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| 01:08.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (~skizot@226-187.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 01:08.33 | Skizot | anyone made a reaver attack? |
| 01:09.27 | Skizot | also, how the hell do i made a colossus copy NOT have a turret? |
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| 01:19.30 | Mephs | any terrain experts here? got a question |
| 01:20.50 | Creation | im pretty damn good |
| 01:20.52 | Creation | whats up mephs |
| 01:21.34 | Mephs | ok i'm using the space platform reactor |
| 01:21.44 | Mephs | i hide the terrain cells to make the reactor visible under the map |
| 01:21.49 | Mephs | but my characters can't walk over it |
| 01:21.53 | Mephs | units disappear |
| 01:22.13 | Mephs | is there a way to make invisible walkable terrain over top of it? |
| 01:22.30 | Mephs | its got something to do with hidden terrain cells |
| 01:23.24 | Creation | thats weird |
| 01:23.33 | Creation | let me have a look |
| 01:24.04 | Creation | actually, mephs your going about it the wrong way |
| 01:24.10 | Creation | heres what you need to do |
| 01:24.26 | Creation | set the reactor where you want it |
| 01:24.38 | *** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (~skizot@226-187.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 01:24.43 | Creation | then |
| 01:24.49 | Creation | when your in terrain mode |
| 01:24.54 | Creation | theres an icon on the right hand side |
| 01:24.58 | Creation | its called terrain object |
| 01:25.12 | Creation | one of those objects should be in the shape of the reactor |
| 01:25.13 | Mephs | yeah i know about it |
| 01:25.14 | Mephs | but |
| 01:25.26 | Mephs | hm |
| 01:25.31 | Mephs | is there a way to move an entire map? |
| 01:25.33 | Mephs | like nudge it over a bit |
| 01:25.38 | Mephs | cause taht terrain object is placed weird |
| 01:25.45 | Mephs | like it goes more than 1 cell at a time |
| 01:25.55 | Creation | sec |
| 01:26.11 | Tordy | poop |
| 01:26.26 | Creation | ah i see what you mean |
| 01:26.33 | Creation | the pathing footprint sucks for you |
| 01:26.38 | Mephs | oh |
| 01:26.41 | Mephs | can i just change the footprint |
| 01:26.44 | Creation | yes |
| 01:26.54 | Creation | delete the footprint entirely |
| 01:27.06 | Creation | and it will let you place wherever |
| 01:27.26 | Mephs | ahaa |
| 01:27.28 | Mephs | I see thanks |
| 01:27.30 | Creation | :D |
| 01:27.39 | Skizot | hello! |
| 01:27.43 | Creation | hi |
| 01:28.06 | Mephs | wait |
| 01:28.09 | Tordy | hi there |
| 01:28.11 | Mephs | there is no footprint on the terrain object |
| 01:28.12 | Skizot | has anyone made a reaver style attack? |
| 01:28.14 | Mephs | in the data editor |
| 01:28.27 | Mephs | oh wait the actor |
| 01:28.27 | Mephs | nvm |
| 01:28.37 | Mephs | ...wait |
| 01:28.38 | Mephs | no |
| 01:28.39 | Mephs | wtf |
| 01:29.44 | Mephs | i'm gonna have to move the entire map |
| 01:29.45 | Creation | lol |
| 01:29.56 | Mephs | i can't find a footprint for it |
| 01:30.07 | Creation | let me try |
| 01:30.13 | Creation | which item is it? |
| 01:30.23 | Mephs | Braxis Alpha Reactor (Height 2) |
| 01:30.25 | Mephs | is the terrain object |
| 01:30.31 | Mephs | Space Platform Reactor is the doodad |
| 01:30.36 | Creation | k |
| 01:34.49 | Creation | wow thats stupid |
| 01:35.02 | Creation | even with no footprint on it it still acts like theres a footprint on it wtf |
| 01:35.08 | Mephs | yuppp |
| 01:35.10 | Mephs | so how do i |
| 01:35.12 | Mephs | move the entire map |
| 01:35.14 | Mephs | over |
| 01:35.17 | Creation | lol |
| 01:35.26 | Creation | move the entire map? |
| 01:35.33 | Mephs | yea...i need to shift it a cell |
| 01:35.35 | Creation | only way i can think of is to adjust the bounds |
| 01:35.37 | Mephs | so it'll be centered |
| 01:36.45 | Mephs | wow...thats kinda stupid |
| 01:37.09 | Mephs | is there any other way to get an invisible terrain height there? |
| 01:39.38 | Skizot | ugh |
| 01:39.42 | Skizot | reaver attack is a bitch |
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| 01:51.45 | Mephs | oh there's a better one |
| 01:51.49 | Mephs | avernus glass floor |
| 01:51.52 | Mephs | that's centered |
| 01:51.53 | Mephs | i'll just use that |
| 01:51.57 | Mephs | gay terrain objects... |
| 01:55.44 | Skizot | what the FUUU |
| 01:55.54 | Mephs | yea no kidding |
| 01:55.54 | Skizot | why do my units have the same model TWICE? |
| 02:00.30 | Skizot | two actors how the hell? |
| 02:01.24 | Skizot | hahahaha |
| 02:03.22 | Skizot | weeeiiirrrrdddd |
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| 02:09.28 | Dustin| | Anyone want to help me with a quick Alpha test, US? |
| 02:11.16 | Skizot | grr |
| 02:11.26 | Skizot | other than the attack, i am ready to do a reaver video!! |
| 02:32.57 | Skizot | :/ |
| 02:46.18 | Tordy | hi there |
| 02:52.52 | Skizot | HI |
| 02:53.10 | Skizot | oops |
| 02:53.38 | Skizot | how would i make a wander firie ALOT more often. |
| 02:53.52 | Skizot | basically how can i recreate the scarabs movement using wander. |
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| 03:00.36 | Skizot | :/ |
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| 03:07.49 | Skizot | :D |
| 03:07.56 | Skizot | i've got 90% of what i need :D |
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| 03:18.28 | Twiner|test | Bah, why do you always stop talking when I join with my test client |
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| 03:26.53 | Skizot | lol |
| 03:27.14 | Skizot | animating my valkyrie. |
| 03:27.26 | Skizot | and then my "skizot test units" map is done. |
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| 03:47.55 | Skizot | :D |
| 03:48.06 | Skizot | animatered valkyries! |
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| 03:58.53 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/units.png |
| 03:58.58 | Skizot | name those pokemans! |
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| 04:19.51 | Skizot | :| |
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| 04:21.56 | Skizot | you all suck :( |
| 04:23.07 | Tordy | hi there |
| 04:23.18 | RodOfNOD | "> |
| 04:24.30 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/units.png |
| 04:24.30 | Skizot | name those pokemans! |
| 04:24.30 | Skizot | all with CUSTOM ANIMATIONS oooOOOoooOOOooo |
| 04:24.40 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 04:24.43 | RodOfNOD | poki skiz! |
| 04:25.08 | RodOfNOD | added animations tothe reaver? |
| 04:25.30 | Skizot | yessuh |
| 04:25.44 | RodOfNOD | u get your connection working yet? |
| 04:25.46 | Skizot | even got some library that had a reaver attack. |
| 04:25.54 | Skizot | though it just goes straight |
| 04:25.58 | RodOfNOD | ic |
| 04:25.59 | Skizot | no crazy reaver walk. |
| 04:27.33 | RodOfNOD | man who wants to play that ugly pokimon style map... gags |
| 04:27.41 | RodOfNOD | the one on the front of sc2mapster :P |
| 04:28.10 | Skizot | lol |
| 04:28.19 | Skizot | fix the reaver in this thingy |
| 04:28.28 | Skizot | make the scarab work right |
| 04:28.33 | Skizot | so i can make a video. |
| 04:28.38 | Skizot | the valk eben got animated. |
| 05:20.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105) |
| 05:20.39 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 05:20.50 | onetwo | sup yall |
| 05:23.24 | onetwo | alright no sup then |
| 05:23.25 | onetwo | brb |
| 05:37.30 | JManV | sup onetwo |
| 05:40.14 | Creation | anyone want to come help playtest the ghost for World of Starcraft? :D |
| 05:40.16 | Creation | NA |
| 05:41.00 | JManV | i open |
| 05:41.05 | JManV | i'm |
| 05:42.23 | JManV | JManV.733 |
| 05:43.12 | Creation | ok |
| 05:46.24 | Lilianna | my mouse didnt work. >.> |
| 05:47.10 | Creation | i know |
| 05:47.12 | JManV | mine did |
| 05:47.14 | Creation | that was my bad |
| 05:47.20 | Creation | republishing |
| 05:47.25 | Creation | simple retarded thing on my part |
| 05:47.29 | Creation | wasnt expecting 4 players |
| 05:47.41 | Creation | brb 1 min |
| 05:48.06 | Creation | logging in |
| 05:48.37 | JManV | i'm just sitting here spamming the sc2 gui :P |
| 05:49.01 | Mephs | onetwo is living large with women and money |
| 05:50.33 | onetwo | i am? |
| 05:50.36 | onetwo | speaking of women and money |
| 05:50.41 | onetwo | the girl at mcdonalds gave me my food for free |
| 05:50.44 | Mephs | wow |
| 05:50.46 | onetwo | cause they were doing end-of-day |
| 05:50.48 | Mephs | you tap that |
| 05:50.48 | onetwo | shit on the machines |
| 05:50.49 | Mephs | ? |
| 05:50.54 | onetwo | yeah so i tapped that |
| 05:50.56 | onetwo | as a thanks |
| 05:50.59 | Mephs | sweet |
| 05:51.04 | Mephs | how large was she |
| 05:51.09 | Mephs | on a scale from big to large |
| 05:51.12 | onetwo | white and nerdy |
| 05:51.38 | onetwo | by chamillionaire |
| 05:57.49 | onetwo | well i destroyed this chat |
| 06:04.57 | JManV | would anyone like to help me test my map on NA servers? |
| 06:08.54 | onetwo | sure |
| 06:09.20 | onetwo | JManV message onetwo.855 |
| 06:14.44 | JManV | thx... must be the camera |
| 06:14.56 | JManV | must be set to all players |
| 06:14.56 | JManV | stupid defaults |
| 06:15.00 | onetwo | ah |
| 06:15.19 | JManV | thats exactly the kind of stuff i wanted to catch tho |
| 06:15.49 | JManV | did you get a music change? |
| 06:17.26 | onetwo | i did when i watched you |
| 06:17.29 | onetwo | but it never reverted back |
| 06:17.31 | onetwo | nor my cam |
| 06:17.34 | onetwo | after your battle ended |
| 06:17.41 | JManV | weird |
| 06:17.43 | onetwo | also the hp bar didnt change for the marine |
| 06:17.46 | onetwo | while i watched you kill it |
| 06:17.55 | JManV | all the camera code is uses a player parameter |
| 06:18.20 | JManV | do you have a couple more minutes? |
| 06:18.26 | JManV | i need to see what you saw |
| 06:19.33 | JManV | hmmm... just not finding it in the code |
| 06:23.16 | Xaragoth | hrm... |
| 06:23.27 | Xaragoth | any new maps on bnet that I should try out? |
| 06:24.29 | JManV | hmmm. i just don't get it |
| 06:26.44 | JManV | think i know how i can test it with just one player tho |
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| 06:27.23 | JManV | ahoy there |
| 06:27.35 | Dogmai | does anyone here use both the NA and US servers? |
| 06:28.07 | Dogmai | ugh |
| 06:28.07 | Mephs | did they say when 1.2 was coming |
| 06:28.10 | Dogmai | NA and EU servers |
| 06:28.12 | Dogmai | next week |
| 06:28.17 | Mephs | okay. |
| 06:30.56 | JManV | onetwo: you a hockey fan? |
| 06:31.02 | onetwo | na i like nba |
| 06:31.04 | onetwo | kobe mostly |
| 06:31.36 | JManV | how can you likve in canada and not like hockey? |
| 06:31.40 | JManV | isn't that illegal? |
| 06:31.54 | onetwo | yeah and i think vancouver has like the top hockey team atm |
| 06:32.00 | onetwo | im so out of it |
| 06:32.01 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:32.12 | JManV | well, they lost to detroit tonight :P |
| 06:32.15 | onetwo | good |
| 06:32.16 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:32.23 | onetwo | canucks fanboys can cry |
| 06:32.34 | onetwo | i like nba cause its something i can play |
| 06:32.39 | onetwo | i have no relation to hockey |
| 06:32.42 | onetwo | nor any desire for it |
| 06:32.45 | onetwo | or to play it |
| 06:33.03 | JManV | i can dig it |
| 06:33.38 | JManV | man, there's definitely something wrong |
| 06:33.41 | onetwo | ? |
| 06:33.55 | JManV | i did a one player test where i controlled the computer as player 1, and i was player 2 |
| 06:34.07 | onetwo | hmm |
| 06:34.13 | JManV | apparently, it kept spawning enemiers for me |
| 06:34.47 | onetwo | on an unrelated note |
| 06:34.55 | JManV | i alt+tabed and came back to a field of unts |
| 06:34.56 | onetwo | im seriously considering putting my rpg as a marketplace map |
| 06:35.00 | onetwo | instead of releasing sooner |
| 06:35.00 | onetwo | put more itme |
| 06:35.01 | onetwo | time |
| 06:35.05 | onetwo | get some fantasy models made |
| 06:35.10 | onetwo | get a good story |
| 06:35.20 | onetwo | and charge 99 cents |
| 06:35.41 | JManV | omg |
| 06:36.04 | JManV | now i just watched it spawn a bunch of combats |
| 06:36.15 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:37.01 | JManV | it can't handle two very well |
| 06:37.06 | JManV | let alone 5+ |
| 06:37.25 | JManV | i'm still getting lag spikes tho |
| 06:37.29 | JManV | dunno what that's about |
| 06:38.20 | onetwo | triggers running? |
| 06:38.38 | JManV | i'm gonna see if it coincides with my random encounter trigger |
| 06:38.46 | onetwo | probably |
| 06:38.48 | onetwo | afk |
| 06:38.59 | JManV | i think it does, but i just tried to optimize it even further |
| 06:39.09 | JManV | i moved the 1/3 chance to the very start |
| 06:40.31 | JManV | i don't get that other thing tho... it's hiding really well |
| 06:43.33 | JManV | duh! |
| 06:44.05 | JManV | nope. dammit! |
| 06:48.45 | JManV | oh |
| 06:48.47 | JManV | stupid |
| 06:49.07 | JManV | *that's* why it warns you about unsaved changes... |
| 06:49.14 | JManV | because it doesn't publish them |
| 06:49.19 | JManV | facepalms. |
| 06:49.50 | JManV | kinda hard to test something when you're not actually changing things between tests |
| 06:53.15 | JManV | wow. 3 seconds game time is actually really quick |
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| 07:01.40 | Creation | I think bnet is about to explode |
| 07:02.00 | Creation | JManV I don't think its you |
| 07:02.06 | Creation | I think its bnet about to explode |
| 07:02.13 | Creation | everyone is DCing all over the place |
| 07:02.18 | Creation | and lag is off the charts |
| 07:02.52 | JManV | no. there's something wrong with my code |
| 07:04.06 | Creation | onetwo can i test your map? |
| 07:04.35 | onetwo | which map? |
| 07:04.39 | Creation | the RPG |
| 07:04.39 | onetwo | im playing cs right now |
| 07:04.43 | onetwo | some time in the future :D |
| 07:04.45 | onetwo | afk |
| 07:04.46 | Creation | ok |
| 07:05.17 | onetwo | its kinda in a broken state atm |
| 07:05.20 | onetwo | in between work |
| 07:05.23 | onetwo | afk for real now |
| 07:05.30 | JManV | i think i fixed the lag spike tho |
| 07:05.43 | JManV | once that optimization i did actually got applied |
| 07:06.00 | JManV | seems to make a big difference, running 1/3 as often |
| 07:06.24 | JManV | and based on what i was seeing, i think i can run it even less often |
| 07:17.51 | Tordy | wassup |
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| 07:20.24 | Mephs | hi tordy |
| 07:26.19 | JManV | wassup wassup |
| 08:14.16 | Tordy | http://www.wimp.com/elmobell/ |
| 08:34.43 | *** part/#sc2mapster Tordy (Tordy@pool-98-116-89-31.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 08:34.48 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tordy (Tordy@pool-98-116-89-31.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 08:35.00 | Tordy | and that concludes elmo's order! |
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| 09:05.32 | XenoX101 | hello |
| 09:07.41 | onetwo | hi |
| 09:07.59 | XenoX101 | how goes it |
| 09:08.12 | onetwo | good |
| 09:08.20 | onetwo | its time for gangsters paradise! |
| 09:08.23 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-td_dkgM0c&feature=fvst |
| 09:08.24 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:08.24 | XenoX101 | it is? |
| 09:08.34 | onetwo | Sixen knows what im talking bout |
| 09:08.44 | XenoX101 | k |
| 09:09.01 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:09.14 | XenoX101 | I made an ability for doite yesterday, uses markers to mark 5 units then refers to them after to shoot missiles at them |
| 09:09.26 | onetwo | wow |
| 09:09.32 | onetwo | thats already way more than i have any clue about |
| 09:09.32 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:09.35 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 09:09.39 | XenoX101 | its actually really easy |
| 09:09.44 | XenoX101 | all you need to do is |
| 09:09.50 | XenoX101 | the persistent needs to marked as "Casting Unit" |
| 09:10.11 | XenoX101 | then you put a validator on the 'marking damage' |
| 09:10.18 | XenoX101 | which I just put as a 0 dmg effect |
| 09:10.23 | XenoX101 | "No markers" |
| 09:10.30 | XenoX101 | so it only marks each unit once |
| 09:10.39 | XenoX101 | then when you want to do the damage, with the same persistent |
| 09:10.45 | XenoX101 | you create a new validator |
| 09:10.54 | XenoX101 | by copying the "No Markers", and change the Value from "0" to "1" |
| 09:11.04 | XenoX101 | then just use your new validator for the daamge |
| 09:11.05 | XenoX101 | damage |
| 09:11.33 | XenoX101 | I can send it to you |
| 09:11.41 | XenoX101 | actually I'll upload it |
| 09:11.41 | onetwo | na im good |
| 09:11.41 | XenoX101 | sec |
| 09:11.45 | onetwo | my brain is sploded |
| 09:11.48 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 09:11.49 | onetwo | i was in gangsters paradise |
| 09:11.51 | onetwo | but not anymore |
| 09:11.52 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:12.24 | XenoX101 | hah |
| 09:12.55 | XenoX101 | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3U95290Z |
| 09:13.05 | XenoX101 | hope he's ok with me sharing it here |
| 09:13.07 | XenoX101 | but yeah |
| 09:13.28 | onetwo | let me just hack it up and release it under my name |
| 09:13.29 | onetwo | oops |
| 09:13.30 | onetwo | !! |
| 09:13.35 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 09:13.47 | XenoX101 | I still had to use a behaviour for the target actor |
| 09:13.55 | XenoX101 | because you need an effect you can cancel |
| 09:14.02 | XenoX101 | to start and stop an actor |
| 09:14.45 | XenoX101 | i.e: only behaviours & persistents allow you to create actor on Behaviour On and destroy it on Behaviour Off |
| 09:15.06 | XenoX101 | err, with persistents its Start and Stop |
| 09:20.38 | XenoX101 | is now playing Bach - Violin Concerto in A minor, BWV 1041 Allegro Assai [Best Of] |
| 09:20.50 | XenoX101 | fuck yeah \m/ |
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| 09:27.51 | XenoX101 | so whats everyone up to |
| 09:28.07 | onetwo | was playing cs source |
| 09:28.08 | onetwo | earlier |
| 09:28.26 | XenoX101 | cool, not a big fan of fps myself ;p |
| 09:28.32 | XenoX101 | used to play tf2 a lot but eh |
| 09:28.45 | XenoX101 | too much reliance on random team mates to not suck ;p |
| 09:29.47 | onetwo | true |
| 09:29.55 | onetwo | the key is to bait your teammates and be patient |
| 09:29.57 | onetwo | both of which i dont do |
| 09:30.06 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 09:30.30 | XenoX101 | dont you get bored of CS:S though? |
| 09:30.33 | XenoX101 | thats what I found |
| 09:30.38 | XenoX101 | "oh look, de_dust again" |
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| 09:31.04 | onetwo | the thing is |
| 09:31.08 | onetwo | i play a custom map 24/7 server |
| 09:31.13 | onetwo | otherwise youre right |
| 09:31.21 | XenoX101 | I see |
| 09:31.25 | onetwo | i need that freshness |
| 09:31.26 | Creation | hi |
| 09:31.29 | XenoX101 | that would be fun, I used to use the valve hammer editor |
| 09:31.30 | onetwo | obviously not going to get it in sc2 |
| 09:31.34 | onetwo | same |
| 09:31.41 | XenoX101 | what a great editor that was |
| 09:31.46 | Creation | I was just watching the combat of the old republic |
| 09:31.48 | XenoX101 | very easy to use |
| 09:31.50 | XenoX101 | well |
| 09:31.56 | XenoX101 | for a 3d editor at least |
| 09:32.05 | Creation | we talking about wc3? |
| 09:32.11 | onetwo | hl2 |
| 09:32.11 | XenoX101 | valve hammer editor |
| 09:32.16 | Creation | ah |
| 09:32.20 | onetwo | although war3s/sc2s is way more powerful |
| 09:32.21 | Creation | never heard of it |
| 09:32.25 | XenoX101 | yeah true |
| 09:32.26 | onetwo | i did enjoy the visual creativity of valves editor |
| 09:32.32 | XenoX101 | yes |
| 09:32.35 | XenoX101 | you could chop and change objects |
| 09:32.41 | XenoX101 | and add textures on the fly |
| 09:32.44 | onetwo | yeah |
| 09:32.50 | XenoX101 | and the lighting |
| 09:32.52 | XenoX101 | was nice |
| 09:32.56 | XenoX101 | you could add emitters anywhere |
| 09:33.14 | Creation | whens 1.2 supposed to go live |
| 09:33.17 | XenoX101 | actually this was HL1 valve editor |
| 09:33.24 | XenoX101 | so might be diff with hl2 ;p |
| 09:34.31 | XenoX101 | if only there were FPSes with SC2's map editing potential |
| 09:35.01 | XenoX101 | I guess thats where modding comes into the picture ;p |
| 09:35.02 | onetwo | hmm quicktime pro can record your screen on a mac |
| 09:35.03 | onetwo | insteresting |
| 09:35.11 | onetwo | yeah lighting was fun too |
| 09:35.19 | onetwo | 1.2 next week i guess |
| 09:35.27 | XenoX101 | 'when it's done' |
| 09:36.05 | XenoX101 | "1/5/11- After additional testing and feedback from the community on the PTR, we’ve identified and fixed several issues and are now targeting next week for patch 1.2. We will update this thread should there be any further delays. |
| 09:36.05 | XenoX101 | " |
| 09:36.33 | onetwo | theyve been pretty good with timing on sc2 |
| 09:36.40 | onetwo | old blizzard would be 2 months late |
| 09:36.43 | onetwo | new blizzard has it on time |
| 09:36.45 | onetwo | but its not as epic |
| 09:36.49 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 09:37.03 | XenoX101 | I think they really got the mood wrong |
| 09:37.06 | XenoX101 | dead wrong |
| 09:37.09 | XenoX101 | but its still nice |
| 09:37.19 | XenoX101 | you can just feel the WoWiness though |
| 09:37.20 | onetwo | meh the only real hassle for me was bnet |
| 09:37.23 | onetwo | not to be cliche |
| 09:37.30 | onetwo | although the campaign didnt do it for me either |
| 09:37.33 | XenoX101 | yeah nah its the most significant issue atm |
| 09:37.35 | onetwo | i never felt the same epicness that i did during war3 campaign |
| 09:37.47 | XenoX101 | ya the war3 campaign was great |
| 09:37.52 | onetwo | i admire blizz for WoW though |
| 09:37.55 | onetwo | they perfected everything |
| 09:37.58 | onetwo | every game copies it |
| 09:38.00 | onetwo | even their own |
| 09:38.01 | XenoX101 | its true |
| 09:38.03 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:38.06 | XenoX101 | but |
| 09:38.20 | XenoX101 | they cant keep rehashing a winning formula |
| 09:38.33 | XenoX101 | thats the hardest part about developing games |
| 09:38.39 | onetwo | yeah |
| 09:38.46 | onetwo | especially with fpses |
| 09:38.52 | onetwo | everything is turning into rpg now |
| 09:38.54 | onetwo | achievements |
| 09:38.54 | onetwo | items |
| 09:38.55 | onetwo | etc |
| 09:38.56 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 09:39.15 | XenoX101 | I really hope minecraft has started something |
| 09:39.34 | XenoX101 | as much as I'm not a fan of the game they at least innovated the FPS area somewhat |
| 09:40.25 | XenoX101 | its the kind of user interaction we should expect from big developers in 2011 |
| 09:40.40 | XenoX101 | being able to build our own shit, or at least have some greater input on the bigger picture |
| 09:40.41 | onetwo | yeah |
| 09:40.49 | onetwo | i think blizz's next mMO will be like that |
| 09:40.53 | onetwo | or will be about player made world |
| 09:40.58 | onetwo | where you log in to fight for land |
| 09:40.59 | onetwo | etc |
| 09:41.02 | onetwo | not just npcs |
| 09:41.05 | XenoX101 | yeah, would be cool |
| 09:41.15 | onetwo | it wont be long until were all in the virtual world |
| 09:41.21 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 09:41.25 | onetwo | having protoss minds all connected at once through the net |
| 09:41.28 | onetwo | with implants in our heads |
| 09:41.30 | XenoX101 | you know though, despite how far we've come with graphics and stuff |
| 09:41.36 | XenoX101 | I still look at SC2 models |
| 09:41.39 | XenoX101 | and zoom in on them |
| 09:41.41 | XenoX101 | and realise |
| 09:41.47 | XenoX101 | we still have some pretty big limitations |
| 09:42.00 | XenoX101 | they have less polygons than WoW units |
| 09:42.11 | XenoX101 | and high graphics still needs a fair decent computer |
| 09:43.05 | onetwo | yeah |
| 09:43.15 | onetwo | i admire movies though |
| 09:43.20 | onetwo | some cgi is sooo good |
| 09:43.25 | onetwo | their teams of 300 artists |
| 09:43.26 | XenoX101 | yeah thats true |
| 09:43.54 | XenoX101 | but when you've got X amount of supercomputers |
| 09:44.00 | XenoX101 | able to make day-long render sessions |
| 09:44.03 | onetwo | yeah |
| 09:49.30 | XenoX101 | lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6QSdID-yz8&NR=1&feature=fvwp |
| 09:59.10 | Sixen | :D |
| 10:01.28 | onetwo | hi |
| 10:02.30 | XenoX101 | is now playing Michael Jackson - Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' [Thriller] |
| 10:40.49 | XenoX101 | man I hate actors |
| 10:40.51 | XenoX101 | so much |
| 10:41.11 | XenoX101 | you do the exact same thing twice |
| 10:41.14 | XenoX101 | and the second time it wont work |
| 10:41.46 | Sixen | ;/ |
| 10:42.38 | Tordy | sick of de-dust |
| 10:43.30 | XenoX101 | is now playing Michael Jackson - Human Nature [Thriller] |
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| 10:44.26 | harl | huhu |
| 10:44.36 | XenoX101 | dudu |
| 10:45.10 | harl | lol. not quite. |
| 10:45.18 | Tordy | good morning |
| 10:45.48 | harl | hello ;) |
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| 10:47.21 | Nervosa | Hey. |
| 10:47.28 | XenoX101 | ok sweet, its working |
| 10:50.21 | XenoX101 | does anyone know a nice, clean looking beam I can use for a repair effect? |
| 10:50.44 | XenoX101 | actually I might try tractor beam |
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| 10:55.14 | XenoX101 | brb milo |
| 10:55.16 | XenoX101 | hey agouti |
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| 10:55.20 | Agouti | heya |
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| 11:17.29 | Clord | my broken maps are no use for ya! ^^ |
| 11:17.32 | Clord | ;) |
| 11:17.47 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 11:18.29 | Clord | lol |
| 11:19.02 | Clord | Saw - The Video Game.. PC version.. I lol for that game almost |
| 11:19.03 | Clord | ^^ |
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| 11:20.27 | Clord | first of all.. character gets from molotov cocktail... lol |
| 11:20.35 | Clord | but eventually fires go out from your clothes magically |
| 11:22.10 | Clord | and and few toilet and acid barrel later doing same puzzle ovef and over again |
| 11:22.14 | Clord | game's design is clear lol XD |
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| 11:37.35 | XenoX101 | is now playing Phutureprimitive - Rites Of Passage [Sub Conscious] |
| 11:49.35 | Skizot | yo |
| 11:51.37 | XenoX101 | hello |
| 11:52.22 | Skizot | hey mang |
| 11:52.25 | Skizot | what's up? |
| 11:52.48 | XenoX101 | nm, map as usual ;p |
| 11:53.04 | Skizot | i'm trying to find someone who can make a reaver attack. |
| 11:53.11 | Skizot | so i can make a video. |
| 11:55.43 | Skizot | i found campaign creations thingy but the reavers might as well be missiles. |
| 11:55.52 | Skizot | they go STRAIGHT to the target |
| 11:56.01 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 11:56.40 | XenoX101 | well in fairness it will be pretty difficult to make the units swirve like that |
| 11:56.55 | Skizot | no neat running. |
| 11:57.59 | Skizot | well i THOUGHT adding a critter wander with a .001 timer would do it. |
| 11:58.01 | Skizot | nope. |
| 11:58.40 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/units.png |
| 11:58.43 | Skizot | pokemans :D |
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| 12:07.47 | Helral | Skizot: isn't the reaver attack just a unit which moves to the target and then explodes? |
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| 12:17.56 | Sumo- | hey is there a way to grab a region/point by name, like "string to region" |
| 12:19.56 | Thial | you could write the regions into the data table |
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| 12:20.50 | Sumo- | eh kinda defeats the purpose for making things automatic |
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| 12:21.33 | Thial | i dont find anotger way to do that |
| 12:21.43 | Sumo- | :/ |
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| 12:22.19 | Thial | could RegionFromId help you? |
| 12:23.40 | Sumo- | wheres that |
| 12:23.42 | Sumo- | depends what id is |
| 12:24.52 | Thial | native region RegionFromId (int id); |
| 12:25.00 | Sumo- | :/ |
| 12:25.06 | Sumo- | i guess an id is no good |
| 12:25.15 | Sumo- | its pretty much the same as a name |
| 12:25.15 | Thial | the id is generated when you create the region |
| 12:25.41 | Sumo- | the idea is say for example i want to be able to quickly adjust the number of players or waypoints |
| 12:26.03 | Sumo- | i say like 6 players, then its start location would be say "Start 1" |
| 12:26.17 | Thial | i thnk thats not possible :/ |
| 12:26.39 | Sumo- | so when my code needs a start location it can just go StringToRegion("Start" + PlayerID) kind of thing |
| 12:27.05 | Sumo- | even if its ugly like 10 lines of code, still better than manually setting the crap up everytime |
| 12:27.26 | Sumo- | of course theres lots of applications for it, its a wonder why its not available |
| 12:27.27 | Thial | i think the most generic way is to create an array which you manually initialize |
| 12:27.37 | Sumo- | yeh which im doing, which isnt very nice |
| 12:27.44 | Sumo- | when u have like say 20way points for 15 players |
| 12:27.52 | Sumo- | thats 20x15 manual array inits |
| 12:28.00 | Sumo- | but i guess u cud init from custom script |
| 12:28.06 | Sumo- | and that custom script could be generated in excel |
| 12:28.19 | Sumo- | seems like thats the way to do everything at the moment |
| 12:28.43 | Sumo- | these days my blardy code IDE is excel |
| 12:29.08 | Thial | Oo |
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| 12:34.27 | Clord | this reminds about lobbies and how idiotically easy it was in the end fix teams |
| 12:34.27 | Clord | XD |
| 12:34.53 | Sumo- | ? |
| 12:35.03 | Clord | triggers can detect what team someone was during lobby :) |
| 12:35.09 | Clord | XD |
| 12:35.14 | Clord | lol it was facepalm moment almost |
| 12:35.25 | Sumo- | oh really |
| 12:35.34 | Clord | yeah really really |
| 12:35.41 | Sumo- | whats the use of that/ |
| 12:35.55 | Sumo- | ah cause u can modify it in lobby ay |
| 12:36.03 | Sumo- | i forget, since i fix my teams |
| 12:36.39 | Skizot | anyone able to fake a zerg unit wireframe? |
| 12:41.00 | Sumo- | 00:00:02.00 Trigger Error in 'gt_GameEngineCoreInitialize_Func': An error occurred starting StarCraft II. Please try again. |
| 12:41.01 | Sumo- | awesome |
| 12:41.29 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 12:41.30 | XenoX101 | yummy |
| 12:41.53 | Sumo- | it occurs everytime now |
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| 12:43.51 | Sumo- | joy |
| 12:44.51 | Clord | Sumo-... yeah |
| 12:44.55 | Clord | it is obviously useful thing lol |
| 12:45.27 | Sumo- | maps screwed again and left in the dark, didnt even change shit |
| 12:45.30 | Clord | that way you can assign for map that it knows what team everyone belongs etc |
| 12:45.50 | Sumo- | indeed |
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| 12:55.50 | burne- | hi guys |
| 12:55.55 | Sumo- | sup |
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| 12:57.46 | Skizot | what's the cheat to skip requirments and such? |
| 13:02.30 | Helral | disable techtree trigger ;p |
| 13:05.38 | XenoX101 | is now playing Phutureprimitive - Hyper-Sence [Sub Conscious] |
| 13:05.58 | Sumo- | fully my cliffing tools are totally not working anymire |
| 13:06.28 | Helral | save map restart sc2editor try again ;p |
| 13:06.36 | Sumo- | :P |
| 13:06.44 | Sumo- | close editor, rethink life |
| 13:06.53 | Helral | default action when stuff stop working. |
| 13:07.57 | Sumo- | o crap. when you pain textures i didnt know they removed doodads |
| 13:07.58 | XenoX101 | purl, who is Sumo- |
| 13:07.58 | purl | XenoX101: what are you talking about? |
| 13:08.06 | XenoX101 | purl, Sumo is <Sumo-> close editor, rethink life |
| 13:08.07 | purl | ...but sumo is already something else... |
| 13:08.12 | XenoX101 | fuck you |
| 13:08.18 | XenoX101 | purl, Sumo is <Sumo-> close editor, rethink life |
| 13:08.18 | purl | ...but sumo is already something else... |
| 13:08.25 | XenoX101 | oh wait |
| 13:08.31 | XenoX101 | purl, Sumo- is <Sumo-> close editor, rethink life |
| 13:08.32 | purl | okay, XenoX101 |
| 13:08.46 | XenoX101 | purl, who is sumo- |
| 13:08.47 | purl | from memory, sumo- is <Sumo-> close editor, rethink life |
| 13:09.15 | Sumo- | eggdrop eh |
| 13:09.38 | XenoX101 | dunno |
| 13:09.51 | XenoX101 | some kind of bot |
| 13:09.54 | Sumo- | must b, i used to program hard for them ages ago |
| 13:10.02 | XenoX101 | I see |
| 13:10.10 | Sumo- | tcl/tk man, fark |
| 13:11.13 | XenoX101 | dont know what that is ;x |
| 13:11.28 | Stewox | ~seen onetwo |
| 13:11.31 | purl | onetwo <ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3h 10m 3s ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 13:11.32 | Sumo- | :) |
| 13:11.34 | Sumo- | be glad |
| 13:11.37 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 13:11.41 | XenoX101 | hey Sumo- |
| 13:11.45 | XenoX101 | do you know anything about beams |
| 13:12.13 | Sumo- | nah, i see alot of ppl suffer with beams and force, so i've steered clear for now |
| 13:12.28 | Stewox | can i send a messeage to a client that will see the msg when he reconnects ? |
| 13:12.46 | XenoX101 | mm |
| 13:12.51 | XenoX101 | actually I've been thinking |
| 13:13.00 | XenoX101 | of making an SC2 map with no actors |
| 13:13.06 | XenoX101 | well except for the units |
| 13:13.12 | XenoX101 | where everyone supposedly 'uses the force' |
| 13:13.17 | XenoX101 | though I think only mapmakers would get it |
| 13:13.39 | XenoX101 | and even then its probably funnier in my head :p |
| 13:13.47 | Stewox | actor is just a definitoon of art module |
| 13:14.08 | XenoX101 | yeah I know |
| 13:14.13 | XenoX101 | but without them things look a bit funny |
| 13:14.20 | Stewox | basically the model and art stuff go into the actor , the main part of an entity |
| 13:14.33 | Stewox | able to run without actor ? |
| 13:14.53 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 13:15.03 | Stewox | well then it's just a ninvisible point |
| 13:15.06 | XenoX101 | it would've just been a joke, like a cop out for not making actors |
| 13:15.13 | XenoX101 | they're 'using the force' |
| 13:15.36 | Sumo- | lol |
| 13:15.40 | Stewox | yeah just a point with a mover no ? |
| 13:15.46 | Stewox | morer=engine |
| 13:15.50 | Stewox | mover* |
| 13:15.53 | Sumo- | unit = model |
| 13:15.56 | Sumo- | actor = view |
| 13:17.58 | Sumo- | u could give them a real basic model like the repair drones |
| 13:18.16 | Sumo- | or active crystals lol |
| 13:20.59 | XenoX101 | ok there is something inherently wrong with this |
| 13:21.10 | XenoX101 | I just duplicated my working beam actor and it doesnt work |
| 13:21.13 | XenoX101 | on this new unit |
| 13:21.28 | Sumo- | lol |
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| 13:22.47 | XenoX101 | arrr how is this not working |
| 13:24.29 | XenoX101 | wait a minute |
| 13:24.41 | XenoX101 | wait wait wait |
| 13:24.43 | XenoX101 | WAIT |
| 13:24.52 | XenoX101 | I have two action actors, one for repair and one for attack |
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| 13:25.08 | XenoX101 | it seems my repair actor was already using the damage effect to fire |
| 13:25.21 | XenoX101 | I tried duplicating my working beam and it wont stack on top of the other beam |
| 13:25.25 | XenoX101 | it actually stops the original beam working |
| 13:25.35 | XenoX101 | SO, my repair actor might have been ruining my attack actor |
| 13:25.46 | XenoX101 | well |
| 13:25.49 | XenoX101 | at least that sorts that |
| 13:28.40 | XenoX101 | and what do you know, it works |
| 13:29.16 | Skizot | okay so wireframes and buttons for all my units |
| 13:31.57 | Sumo- | my maps getting terrain, the funest and quickest part of the mao |
| 13:34.20 | Clord | errrm.... so you state that your map will have some terrain in it.... lol |
| 13:34.29 | Clord | and it is funnest part of the map? |
| 13:34.34 | Clord | funniest.... |
| 13:34.44 | Sumo- | most fun part of making the map |
| 13:34.55 | Sumo- | its getting new terrain |
| 13:35.20 | Sumo- | and its not funny, its sad |
| 13:40.00 | Clord | then melee mapping os for ya |
| 13:40.01 | Clord | XD |
| 13:40.03 | Clord | is... |
| 13:40.04 | Clord | lol |
| 13:40.12 | Clord | but melee mapping is dullest form of mapping |
| 13:40.30 | Sumo- | heh or is it. |
| 13:40.49 | Sumo- | nah hopefully when im down, the triggering and data editing is mostly done froever |
| 13:42.21 | Sumo- | *done, lol |
| 13:45.59 | XenoX101 | yeah terrain is the best |
| 13:46.08 | XenoX101 | rarely frustrating |
| 13:46.22 | Clord | BNET is odd... my map was on first page... then it dropped to second/third page and then again crawled to first page..... I mean... first it ran with random players... then it fell bit.. then dedicated players of map started to increase and it is back in page 1 ^^ |
| 13:46.49 | Clord | this took somewhat about four months lol |
| 13:47.53 | Clord | map kept increasing popularity when author was few months not updating it or whatever XD |
| 13:47.59 | Clord | while |
| 13:48.12 | Sumo- | heh |
| 13:48.22 | Sumo- | do u find when u update frequenly they dont play as much? |
| 13:48.28 | Sumo- | or is it something else |
| 13:48.42 | Clord | I think it is fun and polish factors |
| 13:48.51 | Clord | also team work |
| 13:49.02 | Sumo- | that makes them play more ? |
| 13:50.16 | Clord | well... once your map is very good.... it keeps increasing players who like map even more and it becomes "core group" what keeps then increasing |
| 13:50.53 | Clord | or more like what ^^ |
| 13:51.57 | Sumo- | when u chuck out an update |
| 13:52.03 | Sumo- | do u find u get more or less players |
| 13:52.33 | Clord | it definately has positive effect...... when you keep nice while between updates |
| 13:52.51 | Clord | if map is already very good.... you can take even months between smaller updates |
| 13:52.57 | Skizot | what is the "skip requirements" cheat? |
| 13:52.59 | Sumo- | yeah slow and steady updates ay |
| 13:54.03 | Clord | lol |
| 13:54.07 | Clord | and best part is |
| 13:54.13 | Clord | it does not almost matter what you update |
| 13:54.30 | Clord | make balance patch what does next to nothing.. and you are still praised eh |
| 13:54.31 | Clord | XD |
| 13:56.40 | Sumo- | :P |
| 13:57.13 | Sumo- | i cant wait to release, i think people are gonna love it |
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| 13:58.32 | Clord | yeah but... there gonna be few weeks spike or something random players testing and keeping map popular in some cases ^^ |
| 13:58.39 | Clord | but what is vital during that time |
| 13:58.43 | Clord | is to get those who want to stick with it |
| 13:58.50 | Clord | so after intial "wow" factor goes away |
| 13:58.56 | Clord | it does not fell completely to abyss XD |
| 14:00.25 | Sumo- | hrm |
| 14:02.56 | Skizot | SoSayWeAll = tech cheat |
| 14:03.12 | Sumo- | tech tree cheat? |
| 14:03.55 | Skizot | no requirements |
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| 14:12.47 | Sumo- | my minimap is always black, any reason for that? |
| 14:12.54 | Sumo- | in-game that is |
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| 14:18.09 | nodgene | Herlo |
| 14:18.52 | Sumo- | yo |
| 14:19.01 | nodgene | How's things? |
| 14:20.33 | Clord | Sumo... one silly thing comes to mind |
| 14:20.37 | Clord | minimap terrain toggle |
| 14:20.38 | Clord | XD |
| 14:20.44 | Clord | in-game |
| 14:21.16 | nodgene | Well, does anyone know how to change the energy consumption of the ghost cloak ability per second? I can't find it. It must be blindingly obvious somewhere... |
| 14:21.30 | Sumo- | yeah i tried that, no effect :/ |
| 14:21.37 | Sumo- | how silly is that |
| 14:27.57 | Thial | behavior: ghost - cloak, modification: vital regeneration bonus |
| 14:28.06 | Thial | nodegene |
| 14:28.21 | nodgene | thank you very much, let's have a look |
| 14:28.53 | Thial | vital regeneration bonus is in the unit tab |
| 14:28.58 | Thial | at the bottom |
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| 14:30.46 | Stewox_ | ~seen onetwo |
| 14:30.51 | purl | onetwo <ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4h 29m 23s ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 14:30.51 | nodgene | AUGH. So obvious. I spent a while the other night trying to find the kill XP too, didn't see that for ages! |
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| 14:32.03 | nodgene | thanks again :) |
| 14:33.06 | Skizot | yay |
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| 14:37.05 | Skizot | ugh |
| 14:56.57 | Skizot | :/ |
| 14:57.20 | Clord | ^_^ |
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| 15:09.55 | nodgene | does anyone have any experience with multiplayer dialogs? |
| 15:10.06 | XenoX101 | THEY ARE MADE OF BOXES |
| 15:10.17 | nodgene | lol, yes. |
| 15:10.28 | nodgene | not quite the information I sought. |
| 15:10.39 | Thial | what information do you need? |
| 15:11.08 | Skizot | SKRAW |
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| 15:12.32 | nodgene | well, I have a selection dialog which spawns units when the player has none, it's based off turokhunter's tutorial. The problem is that it doesn't always register the player's selection, sometimes requires clicked a few times, and sometimes still decides to spawn the players last choice. I know it's a fairly vague request, still, I'm not too sure what's wrong with it. |
| 15:12.55 | nodgene | (multiplayer) |
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| 15:16.20 | Thial | how do you handle the selection of the user? |
| 15:18.37 | nodgene | it's done using a dialog global var, the selection of the unit is registered via one trigger which works on an dialog clicked event, which fires a general switch action which sets the global var to the respective unit ID. |
| 15:19.27 | nodgene | The second trigger then runs on the same dialog event clicked, but checks if the selection ID is 0, if so skips the spawning, if not calls the values within the unit create via the unit ID array. |
| 15:20.37 | nodgene | what I don't get is why sometimes it lags to do it and sometimes it doesn't register. There's no timers within the trigger set and each player has their own trigger set with respective vars, so it shouldn't in theory bugger up. |
| 15:21.52 | Skizot | i would suggest a "hasahero" boolean |
| 15:22.07 | Skizot | that gets set FIRST in the on dialog click |
| 15:22.09 | Skizot | that will stop the multiple heros. |
| 15:22.21 | Skizot | second, taking a few click, is due to lag. |
| 15:22.23 | Skizot | unstoppable. |
| 15:23.18 | nodgene | well I fixed the issue where it spawns more than one hero with having a conditions which checks if the player has less than 1 unit. |
| 15:23.29 | nodgene | ah, k, yeah that is somewhat unfixable heh. |
| 15:27.08 | XenoX101 | is now playing Jeff Buckley - Mojo Pin [Grace] |
| 15:27.18 | Skizot | my (shitty) herod has a cockblocker system. |
| 15:27.20 | Skizot | :) |
| 15:27.32 | Skizot | it marks a hero as taken so click it all you want nuttin gonna happens. |
| 15:28.11 | nodgene | I see. |
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| 15:46.34 | Clord | http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/27321/facebook-will-end-on-march-15th/ |
| 15:46.35 | Clord | lol |
| 15:47.28 | Clord | in other news: pigs fly |
| 15:47.52 | nodgene | heh |
| 15:48.04 | nodgene | I imagine earning the money he does is anything but stressful. |
| 15:48.56 | Clord | it is also hoax |
| 15:48.59 | Clord | lol |
| 15:49.01 | Clord | no worries |
| 15:49.11 | nodgene | I thought as much. |
| 15:49.58 | Nash|327 | careface either way |
| 15:50.05 | Clord | http://www.blogtechnical.com/286/facebook-shut-down-hoax-spreads-like-fire.bt |
| 15:50.09 | Clord | XD |
| 15:50.17 | nodgene | lol, oh dear |
| 15:51.58 | nodgene | so, what sorts of projects are you lot working on? |
| 15:52.25 | Clord | keeping THE Card Game supported |
| 15:52.28 | Nash|327 | nothing at all D: |
| 15:52.36 | Clord | XD |
| 15:53.15 | nodgene | I'm pretty sure that means you need to commit ritual suicide to preserve your honour, in that case, nash :P |
| 15:53.26 | Nash|327 | I'm sure it doesn't. |
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| 15:53.31 | nodgene | :D |
| 15:53.37 | Clord | since when Nash became Samurai? |
| 15:53.38 | Clord | XD |
| 15:53.46 | nodgene | Drafted? |
| 15:54.24 | Clord | historically.... Samurais was ones who honor was most important thing |
| 15:54.52 | Nash|327 | I wouldn't get drafted. |
| 15:54.55 | nodgene | technically speaking such principals are common in many regions, like the afghanistan-pakistan borderlands or the indian subcontinent still. |
| 15:55.15 | Nash|327 | I didn't get drafted. ;G |
| 15:55.21 | nodgene | BUT YOU DID :D |
| 15:55.25 | Clord | yeah but Samurais it was their utmost "life or dead" situation when it came with honor |
| 15:55.37 | Nash|327 | My papers say "mentally unfit for military service" |
| 15:55.40 | Nash|327 | So, no. |
| 15:56.00 | Clord | lol |
| 15:56.08 | Clord | I'm also probably mentally unfit |
| 15:56.11 | Clord | for military service |
| 15:56.25 | Clord | I'm not sure of all reasons they didn't make me to go army |
| 15:56.38 | nodgene | Aye, I read something in a national geographic a few years ago about the afghanistan-pakistan region with their native ethnic group who don't seem to agree with either nation. They're an amusing lot, to sum up the article one warlord was so unimpressed that another had broken their hospitality honour code that he assembled an army and destroyed the accused warlords village... fun times. |
| 15:57.16 | Clord | they has kinda adopted Shogun system lol |
| 15:57.24 | Clord | just rename it Warlord XD |
| 15:57.57 | Clord | oh and hundreds years ago etc... feudal system... ^^ |
| 15:58.02 | nodgene | heh yes, although it's less similar to the japanese shogunate, still very strong honour principals and punishments if individuals fail to comply. |
| 15:58.27 | Clord | when war begam.... no matter what war..... it just means that they actually recruit troops when war already has begun and train them |
| 15:58.36 | Clord | nowadays world that would not work very well lol D |
| 15:58.37 | Clord | XD |
| 15:58.41 | nodgene | Ah yees. Well, I don't think back then if you were levied for service under your lord they cared about mental unbalance, so, Nash remained drafted for some unknown reason, by some unknown and probabaly anarchonistic overlord. |
| 15:59.20 | Nash|327 | anachronistic? |
| 15:59.25 | Clord | I kinda have good guesses how I would be as leader of the world or whatever ^^ |
| 15:59.40 | Clord | it would be disaster |
| 15:59.41 | Clord | lol |
| 15:59.54 | nodgene | being an anarchonism, or a grossly historically incorrect thing. |
| 16:00.19 | Nash|327 | it's still not spelled that way D; |
| 16:00.26 | nodgene | like dinosaurs in the bayeux tapestry depicting the battle of 1066, that would be an anarchonism. |
| 16:00.36 | nodgene | Well, maybe it isn't.... :P |
| 16:00.49 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/units.png |
| 16:00.50 | Nash|327 | STOP MURDERING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE D: |
| 16:00.52 | Skizot | name dem pokemans! |
| 16:00.59 | nodgene | Be nice to the dyslexic :( |
| 16:01.29 | Nash|327 | never |
| 16:01.34 | nodgene | well one is clearly an immortal and a colossus |
| 16:01.48 | Nash|327 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anachronism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism |
| 16:02.11 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 16:02.46 | Skizot | you suck nod. |
| 16:02.58 | Skizot | like seriously. |
| 16:03.19 | Skizot | and FYI... |
| 16:03.22 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/wireframe-protoss-dragoon-large01.jpg |
| 16:03.28 | Skizot | that is BLIZZARDS dragoon. |
| 16:03.35 | Clord | poke unisex |
| 16:03.38 | Skizot | and is probably 404 |
| 16:04.04 | Skizot | it's there now. |
| 16:04.20 | Clord | dragoon wireframe |
| 16:04.22 | Clord | niec |
| 16:04.24 | Clord | nice |
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| 16:04.28 | mattavich | hello fellas |
| 16:04.44 | Clord | I gonna guess that blizzard did it.. it is so well made lol |
| 16:04.44 | Skizot | die in a fire |
| 16:04.47 | mattavich | is anyone available to give me some info on something? |
| 16:04.53 | Skizot | blizzard DID. |
| 16:04.58 | Skizot | i made the model based on it. |
| 16:05.08 | Skizot | YES it is mostly a chopped up immortal. |
| 16:05.16 | Skizot | but look at the wireframe.. |
| 16:05.16 | mattavich | on my map bungle squats, i want to allow all upgrades to be researched, however there is a ton of stacked buildings on the map for them to do this |
| 16:05.19 | Skizot | i mean HELLO. |
| 16:05.28 | mattavich | i want to make ti easier and have like 3 buildings with all upgrades |
| 16:05.34 | mattavich | is that easy? |
| 16:05.42 | Thial | yes |
| 16:06.03 | mattavich | is there a gudie or anything for doing this that i've misseD? |
| 16:06.06 | mattavich | guide* |
| 16:06.17 | Clord | buildings to do research like in SC custom maps? XD horrible design! |
| 16:06.18 | Clord | XD |
| 16:06.31 | mattavich | is there a better way? |
| 16:06.33 | Clord | there is that unit test map what does just that in SCII |
| 16:06.49 | Clord | yes there is multiple ways |
| 16:06.57 | Clord | you can do custom UI with dialogs or.... |
| 16:07.18 | Clord | organize them to new structures |
| 16:07.26 | Clord | so there is no huge pile of them |
| 16:08.09 | mattavich | whata bout requirements though, would i have to edit each one? |
| 16:08.23 | Skizot | so what about the others? |
| 16:08.31 | Clord | there is that trigger to cheat requirements |
| 16:08.33 | mattavich | if i start deleting requirements, the prerequisites to soem upgrades will be skipped |
| 16:08.51 | mattavich | that's what im using now, but if i delete a hive, other upgrades still ask for it |
| 16:08.53 | Clord | but you can just remove certain requirements as needed |
| 16:09.15 | mattavich | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.33 | mattavich | ive been trying to stay clear of the data editor |
| 16:09.45 | mattavich | a dialog sounds nice |
| 16:09.56 | mattavich | are there any libraries for an upgrade dialog? |
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| 16:16.49 | mattavich | :o |
| 16:17.45 | Nash|327 | hug kittuns |
| 16:19.02 | nodgene | the data editor is very powerful, I would dive head first into it if I were you, best to famliarise yourself; we're always here to help if you get stuck. |
| 16:19.20 | Nash|327 | or at least to mock you and call you noob |
| 16:19.39 | mattavich | the problem is that when you mess with the data editor, it is really easy to fuck something up |
| 16:19.52 | Clord | you can revert changes |
| 16:19.52 | nodgene | you would have to create a custom dialog? There are a few tutorials on that about, so it isn't impossible to learn how to. Takes a bit of getting used to, but it's possible. |
| 16:20.04 | nodgene | nah, it's not that bad. |
| 16:20.16 | Clord | hardest part of custom dialogs is to set coordinates right |
| 16:20.20 | Clord | and even that is not rocket sciense |
| 16:20.28 | Nash|327 | rocket surgery |
| 16:20.35 | nodgene | I love it, takes me back to the days of tiberian sun, with the unofficial mod kit and map editor synched so you could make mod maps. |
| 16:21.02 | Nash|327 | hence the NOD? |
| 16:21.12 | mattavich | well, for adding all zerg upgrades to one building, is this what I do - Add each ability to the building, add each upggrade to the command card, selectively edit each requirement for the upgrade so that it doesnt need eg, the hive |
| 16:21.16 | mattavich | is that pretty much it? |
| 16:21.21 | mattavich | or is there something im missing? |
| 16:21.24 | nodgene | find turokhunter's tutorial on dialog, you can dl the map file and backwards engineer it as well as the videos. It's good. I did that. |
| 16:21.34 | nodgene | Ah, yes indeed! Back that goes back to the original in '95 :D |
| 16:21.51 | Clord | when I did maps for doom... I even did levels between normal levels what are like shops... three ways and you get reward based on where you went ^^ |
| 16:21.54 | Nash|327 | And your name is Gene? |
| 16:21.57 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 16:22.25 | nodgene | Nawh, that was a play on "genetics" at the time because the usernames were limited to 8 characters in Westwood online. |
| 16:22.39 | nodgene | Err, well you can do that matt. I did that at one point I think. |
| 16:22.56 | nodgene | But you just need to think what you want, as you can do plenty of different ways, as has been said. |
| 16:23.01 | Clord | also no need worry even if nod is spelt wrong |
| 16:23.02 | Clord | lol |
| 16:23.21 | nodgene | WHUT |
| 16:23.57 | Nash|327 | Methinks Clord hasn't played C&C. |
| 16:24.12 | Clord | lol that is stupid assumption |
| 16:24.23 | Clord | it is just minor detail so don't worry about it lol XD |
| 16:24.50 | mattavich | Guys, my last question, is that what I would do to add the upgrades to building? |
| 16:24.55 | Clord | Nod even when not said with "Brotherhood of Nod" is always capitalized |
| 16:24.56 | mattavich | or am i missing a vital element |
| 16:25.20 | Nash|327 | That's not a spelling issue, that's a grammar issue D_D |
| 16:25.49 | Clord | Scin ir so awesome race to play... so damn broken |
| 16:25.56 | Clord | is... |
| 16:26.52 | nodgene | yes but I got lazy and worry about case sensitiveness to usernames |
| 16:26.54 | nodgene | err |
| 16:26.58 | nodgene | matt |
| 16:27.22 | nodgene | you should be easily able to by opening the data editor, accessing the structure, and then adding command cards and abilities to sed structure |
| 16:27.54 | nodgene | the command card and abilities adding does my head in though, no way does it need 2 seconds on flickering on and off to make the option work. |
| 16:28.10 | nodgene | of* |
| 16:29.12 | mattavich | ok, i'll make a new building rather than editing the standard buildings, hopefully that way i can't fuck it up |
| 16:29.17 | mattavich | thanks a lot for the help guys |
| 16:29.23 | mattavich | hope you enjoy the map if you play it |
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| 16:29.25 | mattavich | bungle squats |
| 16:29.25 | nodgene | well you may want to copy rather than make new |
| 16:29.31 | mattavich | yes hehe |
| 16:29.56 | noio | Hey there! Is there anyone on the EU servers who'd like to help test a map? It's a TD (remake of WCIII Dixel's TD) |
| 16:30.14 | nodgene | speaking of playing, what regions are you lot in? I was hopeful I could try playtesting with some of you at some point. |
| 16:30.19 | nodgene | lol, what a coincidence |
| 16:30.31 | nodgene | I am on the eu server, |
| 16:30.36 | nodgene | if you like I can join in a minute |
| 16:30.54 | noio | nodgene, that would be cool! |
| 16:31.16 | nodgene | right, hold on while I finish this command card and then log in |
| 16:31.16 | noio | I can help out playtesting too if you'd like |
| 16:31.35 | nodgene | mazin', won't be ready for another 20 mins of work I'd say. Maybe later. |
| 16:31.40 | nodgene | but I'll be ready briefly |
| 16:31.51 | mattavich | i'm EU, i'll help once I release my next version on BS |
| 16:31.58 | mattavich | be a while yet hehe |
| 16:32.40 | noio | mattavich, what's your email? I'll ad you and you can invite me whenever you need a tester.. |
| 16:33.28 | mattavich | matthoey86@hotmail.com |
| 16:33.47 | mattavich | You can see my map anytime in the actually |
| 16:33.57 | mattavich | hovering at the bottom of second page/top fo third |
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| 16:35.19 | nodgene | okay ready |
| 16:35.39 | noio | nodgene, email? :) |
| 16:35.48 | nodgene | nodgene@gmail.com |
| 16:36.07 | nodgene | onLAN |
| 16:36.34 | tiger_ | Anyone from EU here to do a test ? We need lil help. |
| 16:37.05 | nodgene | if you help noino I imagine he and I might help you ;) |
| 16:37.41 | tiger_ | What ? |
| 16:37.48 | tiger_ | "help noino I imagine" ? |
| 16:37.55 | noio | Add me as friends, we can help eachother out |
| 16:37.57 | nodgene | lack of grammar |
| 16:38.03 | noio | tiger_, what's your email? |
| 16:38.04 | nodgene | If you help noino, I imagine... |
| 16:38.05 | nodgene | ** |
| 16:38.19 | tiger_ | Email ? |
| 16:38.23 | tiger_ | sec |
| 16:38.34 | Helral | wonders why he would need his email.... |
| 16:38.40 | Helral | wonders why not use charcode ;p |
| 16:38.48 | noio | email is easier? |
| 16:38.49 | Clord | friendlist uses emails as another method |
| 16:38.49 | Clord | XD |
| 16:38.50 | noio | I always do email :) |
| 16:38.57 | Clord | but if you use email |
| 16:38.59 | Helral | I never. ;p |
| 16:39.00 | Clord | your real name is shown |
| 16:39.01 | tiger_ | Why you need my email ? |
| 16:39.01 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:39.02 | tiger_ | I mean... |
| 16:39.05 | noio | char code is fine too |
| 16:39.18 | Clord | char code uses nickname while email method shows real names to eachother |
| 16:39.20 | Clord | in list |
| 16:39.44 | XenoX101 | damn it just hit me that |
| 16:39.44 | Clord | not that real name much amtters |
| 16:39.45 | Clord | lol |
| 16:39.51 | XenoX101 | 4 people died in a house fire |
| 16:40.00 | XenoX101 | about 1km away from me |
| 16:40.03 | XenoX101 | 8 hours ago |
| 16:40.14 | XenoX101 | or they were confirmed dead 8 hours ago |
| 16:40.18 | XenoX101 | fire was yesterday I think |
| 16:40.25 | tiger_ | Xeno, from ? |
| 16:40.29 | tiger_ | I mean where was that ? |
| 16:40.32 | XenoX101 | melbourne, Australia |
| 16:40.40 | tiger_ | What happened ? |
| 16:40.41 | Clord | lol "melbourne" |
| 16:40.46 | XenoX101 | gas explosion |
| 16:40.51 | XenoX101 | someone left the gas on |
| 16:40.53 | tiger_ | Caused by ? |
| 16:40.54 | tiger_ | Oo |
| 16:41.06 | tiger_ | Few years ago. |
| 16:41.13 | tiger_ | Someone left gas in house near to us. |
| 16:41.14 | Clord | it is city.. so there should be fires all to time |
| 16:41.17 | tiger_ | Well 400 meters away. |
| 16:41.20 | tiger_ | On purpose. |
| 16:41.27 | tiger_ | And some kind of explosive also probbly. |
| 16:41.29 | tiger_ | Who house exploded. |
| 16:41.30 | tiger_ | Epic. |
| 16:41.35 | tiger_ | It was like eqrthquake. |
| 16:41.36 | XenoX101 | wow |
| 16:41.36 | tiger_ | hh |
| 16:41.38 | XenoX101 | on purpose? |
| 16:41.39 | XenoX101 | why? |
| 16:41.40 | tiger_ | yeah |
| 16:41.47 | Clord | there is insane people... |
| 16:41.49 | tiger_ | Some issues abotu selling and house owning., |
| 16:41.59 | tiger_ | If he cant get the house, nobody will, you know. |
| 16:42.00 | XenoX101 | oh |
| 16:42.04 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 16:42.06 | XenoX101 | damn |
| 16:42.12 | tiger_ | I feel bad for the people that had hause near to that. |
| 16:42.16 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 16:42.19 | Clord | insurance money is common reason why places "happen to catch fire by "accident") XD |
| 16:42.26 | tiger_ | aEven some of my windows got broken. |
| 16:42.41 | Clord | shockwave was so powerfuö? |
| 16:42.44 | Clord | powerful |
| 16:42.53 | tiger_ | Yea it was. |
| 16:42.56 | tiger_ | Damn powerfull. |
| 16:43.05 | tiger_ | My house was like 400 meters away. |
| 16:43.13 | tiger_ | Well something around that. |
| 16:43.16 | tiger_ | 300 to 400 I think. |
| 16:43.27 | tiger_ | Actually it might be 200 xD. |
| 16:43.38 | tiger_ | 5 houses away. |
| 16:44.08 | tiger_ | Anyway, are we going to test something ? |
| 16:44.46 | noio | tiger_, what's your char code? So I an add you to my friends :) |
| 16:44.51 | nodgene | if you hop on bnet now? |
| 16:45.12 | noio | tiger_, sorry, didn't see your private XD |
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| 16:46.51 | Clord | anyways even this year or was it year before this |
| 16:47.00 | Clord | there was fire in one "city" |
| 16:47.04 | Clord | or whatever ^^ |
| 16:47.25 | Clord | anyways.. since this is country about 5 million people etc |
| 16:47.28 | Clord | it was big news |
| 16:47.29 | Clord | lol |
| 16:48.52 | noio | Anyone else up to test a short+sweet TD? :D |
| 16:50.41 | Clord | to be honest.. I was not very impressed by SCII TD maps |
| 16:50.54 | Clord | WCIII got those good ones :/ |
| 16:51.10 | Skizot | i'm working on a defiler :/ |
| 16:51.19 | nodgene | what country? |
| 16:53.04 | XenoX101 | Skizot |
| 16:53.09 | XenoX101 | I can be a defiler >;D |
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| 17:01.56 | Skizot | i mean the unit nubcakes. |
| 17:01.58 | Skizot | all i need now is a tail. |
| 17:02.38 | XenoX101 | ;p |
| 17:02.40 | tiger_ | HU HOH |
| 17:02.42 | tiger_ | SRY i WAS BUSY |
| 17:07.39 | noio | np :D |
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| 17:25.00 | Skizot | oooh |
| 17:25.02 | Skizot | smexy! |
| 17:27.43 | Skizot | okay biznatches |
| 17:27.45 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/defilers.png |
| 17:27.48 | Skizot | CRITIQUE. |
| 17:28.02 | Skizot | after it uploads. |
| 17:28.04 | Skizot | of course |
| 17:28.56 | XenoX101 | hm, my actor isnt scaling for some reason |
| 17:29.06 | Skizot | okay now |
| 17:29.08 | tiger_ | Skizot, you are a model maker ' |
| 17:29.08 | Skizot | Xapti |
| 17:29.11 | Skizot | err |
| 17:29.14 | Skizot | XenoX101 |
| 17:29.16 | Jum-Jum | looks cool |
| 17:29.17 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/defilers.png |
| 17:29.19 | XenoX101 | pretty cool |
| 17:29.22 | Skizot | :D |
| 17:29.22 | Jum-Jum | oh, didnt realize they were defilers |
| 17:29.31 | Jum-Jum | they need those antenna things |
| 17:29.38 | Jum-Jum | thats what made me always think of defilers |
| 17:29.43 | Skizot | so what now it doesn't look cool? |
| 17:29.47 | Skizot | what antennas? |
| 17:29.59 | Jum-Jum | need a picture of a defiler :| |
| 17:30.55 | Jum-Jum | oh |
| 17:31.01 | Jum-Jum | the antennas are actually claws |
| 17:31.24 | XenoX101 | they need to be thinner I think |
| 17:31.25 | Skizot | that is actually a cleaver mix of a queen and a hydralisk :D |
| 17:31.31 | Jum-Jum | ye |
| 17:31.37 | XenoX101 | more 'wavey' |
| 17:31.38 | Skizot | the big claws? |
| 17:31.40 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 17:31.48 | Jum-Jum | looks too hostile |
| 17:31.53 | XenoX101 | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080711045444/starcraft/images/1/12/Defiler_SC1_Art1.jpg |
| 17:31.54 | tiger_ | Skizot, can you upload and give me specular map of that defiler ? I have some issues with specular maps. Might be doing something wrong n exporter itself. Can you help me a bit ? |
| 17:32.02 | XenoX101 | like that |
| 17:32.07 | Skizot | i know they do. |
| 17:32.08 | Skizot | it's also not animated yet |
| 17:32.28 | XenoX101 | make them thin and spider-leg like |
| 17:32.31 | XenoX101 | like that pic |
| 17:32.44 | XenoX101 | and maybe do the same for the other bits that stick out |
| 17:33.15 | tiger_ | :S |
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| 17:37.56 | Skizot | tiger_ |
| 17:38.04 | Skizot | it's using the hydralisk and queen specmaps |
| 17:38.05 | tiger_ | Yes ? |
| 17:38.14 | tiger_ | Model is custom or ? |
| 17:38.25 | Skizot | yes AND no. |
| 17:38.37 | Skizot | i frankensteined parts of existing models together |
| 17:39.12 | tiger_ | Oh so existing models. |
| 17:39.13 | tiger_ | Ok. |
| 17:39.27 | tiger_ | Coz I have problems with specular map when importing or exporting custom model, custom made specular map. |
| 17:39.29 | tiger_ | :S |
| 17:39.33 | tiger_ | Might be the exporter itself. |
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| 17:39.45 | tiger_ | Your model look good. Except maybe those hands are way too long. |
| 17:45.43 | nodgene | Does anyone know how to edit the pheonix graviton beam, so the caster can cast it and walk away? :\ |
| 17:46.56 | XenoX101 | I think the flag "Transient" |
| 17:46.57 | XenoX101 | on the ability |
| 17:47.10 | nodgene | thanks, I'll have a look |
| 17:48.43 | tiger_ | Xeno, Data Editor or Galaxy coder ? |
| 17:48.55 | XenoX101 | data editor |
| 17:49.53 | nodgene | data? |
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| 17:52.51 | tiger_ | Xeno, where are you from ? EU maybe ? |
| 17:53.29 | XenoX101 | aus |
| 17:54.02 | Skizot | there we go. |
| 17:54.05 | Skizot | stupid internet |
| 17:54.52 | nodgene | heh, ticking transient breaks it |
| 17:54.54 | nodgene | :O |
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| 17:59.51 | tiger_ | Is there anyone from EU who can help us with testing ? |
| 18:00.54 | nodgene | what you testing tiger? |
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| 18:03.37 | Clord | got rarer type of e-mail... it is those attempts to make fools do shady jobs for criminals without them realizing it |
| 18:03.38 | Clord | XD |
| 18:03.56 | Clord | and pay them well so they don't mind if they can handle it >_> |
| 18:05.00 | tiger_ | Some map. |
| 18:05.05 | tiger_ | Arena type, funny one. |
| 18:05.06 | Dustin | Sup |
| 18:05.10 | tiger_ | At least that is purpose of it. |
| 18:05.44 | nodgene | kk, I'll come |
| 18:06.23 | tiger_ | we need at least 3 people |
| 18:06.25 | tiger_ | 4 would be ok. |
| 18:07.14 | tiger_ | Clord, Dustin, nodgene ? From ? odgeen is EU, others ? |
| 18:07.16 | tiger_ | Can you guyz help ? |
| 18:07.27 | nodgene | EU |
| 18:07.28 | Clord | okay okay |
| 18:07.33 | Clord | dammit.. |
| 18:07.50 | Clord | I need login first to see my number |
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| 18:08.19 | Dustin | US |
| 18:08.33 | Clord | XD |
| 18:08.43 | Clord | Clord.438 |
| 18:08.55 | Dustin | So whats going on |
| 18:09.02 | tiger_ | tiger 345 |
| 18:09.25 | tiger_ | Nothing special. |
| 18:09.36 | nodgene | coming now |
| 18:09.50 | tiger_ | nodgen, do I have you on bnet ? |
| 18:10.10 | Clord | I can see you! tiger ^^ |
| 18:10.39 | tiger_ | lol |
| 18:12.30 | Skizot | and animated |
| 18:15.07 | tiger_ | Skizot where are you from ? |
| 18:20.21 | Skizot | florida |
| 18:20.51 | tiger_ | blah |
| 18:20.55 | tiger_ | How's the time there ? |
| 18:21.01 | tiger_ | wheather |
| 18:21.02 | tiger_ | * |
| 18:21.04 | tiger_ | Sunny ? |
| 18:21.20 | Bounty | >< |
| 18:21.39 | tiger_ | Bounty, are you from EU maybe ? |
| 18:21.44 | Bounty | nope |
| 18:24.44 | tiger_ | We need 1 more player. |
| 18:38.05 | Dustin | They need to let different regions play together |
| 18:38.37 | Dustin | It's stupid that as technology has progressed they decided they wanted to make thing more limited =/ |
| 18:39.17 | Bounty | Do you really want to start this conversation? :) |
| 18:40.04 | nodgene | I don't quite understand the way it's planned either. Obviously lag is an issue between far flung regions, but still. |
| 18:42.58 | Dustin | Eh |
| 18:43.11 | Dustin | The way I understand it it's a sales area issue |
| 18:43.18 | progammer | news folks http://www.sc2mapster.com/ |
| 18:43.20 | Dustin | But seriously, there worksarounds |
| 18:43.30 | Dustin | there's* |
| 18:44.04 | Bounty | Video is unavailable |
| 18:44.59 | progammer | processing 720p |
| 18:45.08 | progammer | click to watch on yt |
| 18:45.40 | progammer | i will remove the hd embed |
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| 18:55.18 | Dustin | daaaaamn |
| 18:55.30 | Dustin | Are all those models in there in sc2? |
| 18:55.48 | Dustin | If so, I'm apaprently not doing something right cause I dont have crpa for assests |
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| 19:03.16 | burne- | i hate the editor sometimes |
| 19:03.30 | burne- | spent like 5h on single ability and it still looks like shit -_- |
| 19:03.43 | burne- | I guess some ideas just dont work like you imagine -_- |
| 19:04.50 | Sumo- | i know how u feel |
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| 19:10.37 | Clord | ^^ |
| 19:10.57 | Clord | five hours? |
| 19:11.04 | Clord | you try to achieve something insanely complex XD |
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| 19:30.47 | tiger_ | Vector, lets see. |
| 19:42.23 | mattavich | Hey - Where can I disable the requirement which limits zerg buildings to only be built on creep - (I have removed the behaviours which stated creep from the building, but i'm still unable to build) |
| 19:44.25 | Matt438 | mattavich, try to duplicate these steps and see if it works... http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/422-data-protoss-powered-buildings-without-pylon-zerg-builds/ |
| 19:44.38 | mattavich | thanks |
| 19:45.15 | mattavich | Select "Zerg - Behavior Not on Creep", and delete it. |
| 19:45.16 | mattavich | strange |
| 19:45.18 | mattavich | ive done this] |
| 19:45.29 | mattavich | but when i sue my SCV to build a spore crawler etc |
| 19:45.34 | mattavich | it asks to be palced onc reep |
| 19:46.15 | Matt438 | well that's odd |
| 19:46.50 | Matt438 | are you positive that the spore crawler that your SCV is building is the same one you edited? |
| 19:47.00 | Sumo- | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/editor-bugs-and-feedback/10288-black-minimap-terrain-and-bridge-texture-bug/ |
| 19:47.02 | Sumo- | any help? |
| 19:48.11 | mattavich | willc heck |
| 19:51.35 | mattavich | the ability command "mutate into spine crawler" I can't find where it actually selects the unit |
| 19:57.53 | mattavich | found it |
| 19:57.55 | mattavich | footprint |
| 19:58.02 | mattavich | needed the footprint not to specify creep |
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| 20:05.21 | JManV | how shit my youtube views jumped since yesterday |
| 20:05.59 | JManV | how=holy |
| 20:06.39 | Sumo- | how can i fix the black minimap issue |
| 20:11.49 | nodgene | anyone in the EU region like to playtest? |
| 20:15.30 | tiger_ | I will help you test when I end with current playtest. |
| 20:26.01 | Thial | I have an attribute that modifies the damage of the unit. is it possible that it changes the value shown as base value (Damage: 10) instead of the green number behind (Damage 4 (+6)) ? |
| 20:29.22 | tiger_ | Ok, I am here now. |
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| 20:29.46 | Skizot_out | RodOfNOD: you here |
| 20:30.50 | Skizot_out | dammit |
| 20:32.28 | Skizot_out | anyone here/ |
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| 20:55.26 | Skizot_out | where is rod of nod? |
| 20:57.18 | tiger_ | I am here. |
| 21:00.48 | Skizot_out | but are you RodOfNOD ? |
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| 21:25.46 | mattavich | guys, any reason why my stimpack upgrade wont show up on in my buildings? |
| 21:25.54 | mattavich | the button just isnt there |
| 21:26.34 | mattavich | i mean, the button doesnt show up |
| 21:26.41 | mattavich | in-game, even when i adde dit |
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| 21:48.51 | Clord | well duh |
| 21:49.03 | Clord | it is not enough to add icon to command card |
| 21:49.07 | Clord | you also need add ability for it |
| 21:49.10 | Clord | to make it show XD |
| 21:49.15 | Clord | as far I know =) |
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| 22:07.46 | mattavich | Anyone know how the heros in footmen have that nice circle surrounding them? |
| 22:07.56 | mattavich | the selection circle is quite pretty |
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| 22:10.45 | Helral | Skizot still looking for RodOfNOD? |
| 22:11.37 | Clord | all that noble talk or whatever against protecting maps when publishing and end result is probably opposite |
| 22:11.37 | Clord | XD |
| 22:13.15 | nodgene | Oh herlo |
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| 22:47.11 | Skizot_out | yes |
| 22:47.21 | Skizot_out | bring me rod |
| 22:48.11 | Skizot_out | RodOfNOD: |
| 22:48.19 | Skizot_out | bleep boop |
| 23:06.11 | Skizot_out | RodOfNOD: |
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| 23:22.06 | laku | hi |
| 23:23.22 | laku | can someone tell me how i place a mineral container like the ones in the campain |
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| 23:52.59 | Mephs | does leaver code execute before or after the client leaves the game? |
| 23:53.07 | Mephs | i.e. can you modify a bank when someone leave? |
| 23:55.06 | Skizot_out | RodOfNOD: |
