| 00:00.42 | Helral | hmmm? |
| 00:06.11 | Helral | you want to save equipment? (unit get's lethal/nonlethal dmg. condition: dmg>unit health. action: check all inv slots and drop+hide the items, on respawn add the items back to the inv.) |
| 00:06.41 | Skizot | helral noooooooo |
| 00:06.55 | Helral | what Skizot? |
| 00:07.07 | Skizot | he's like the perfect troll |
| 00:07.13 | Vesuvius | is there any way to make warpgate warp in work through the minimap? |
| 00:07.17 | Skizot | don't feed him anymore than needed. |
| 00:07.36 | Xapti | interesting question vesuvius |
| 00:07.53 | Xapti | I assume you've tested it's default functionality and it can't? |
| 00:07.58 | Vesuvius | yeah |
| 00:07.58 | Helral | Vesuvius: it doesn't work throug the minimap? |
| 00:08.04 | Vesuvius | no it doesnt |
| 00:08.14 | Vesuvius | you awlays have to move your camera back |
| 00:08.18 | Vesuvius | to do warp ins |
| 00:08.19 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 00:08.34 | Xapti | if you make it castable on a unit then it could be done... not that that's necessarily the only way |
| 00:08.43 | Xapti | like castable on pylon would make the most sense |
| 00:09.03 | Xapti | and you'd have to make modifications to the ability so that it spawns a unit next to the pylon |
| 00:09.12 | Xapti | instead of having to target with a footprint and such |
| 00:10.10 | Xapti | but you'd need to have pretty precise clicking to cast on a pylon |
| 00:10.52 | JManV | you can't really mess much with the way warp gate trains targets |
| 00:11.07 | Xapti | no? |
| 00:11.14 | Helral | lol it actually throws a can't use minimap error. |
| 00:11.18 | JManV | i've tried to in the past, with very little luck |
| 00:11.36 | Vesuvius | :/ |
| 00:11.36 | Xapti | what about other abilities like infested terran can that be cast on the minimap? |
| 00:11.39 | JManV | warp gate train is it's own ability, and the targetting appears to be hard coded |
| 00:11.48 | JManV | you could create a new ability |
| 00:11.55 | JManV | but i don't think it could even be a trian |
| 00:11.57 | JManV | train |
| 00:12.05 | JManV | which makes it even more complicated |
| 00:12.06 | Xapti | Or nuclear launch for instace too. I'm just wondernig if it's even possible to cast on minimap without targetting a unit |
| 00:12.08 | Vesuvius | yeah i know i could just make a targetted ability |
| 00:12.13 | Xapti | or if it would need to be possible to target a unit |
| 00:12.48 | Vesuvius | not sure, haven't tried with more generic abilities |
| 00:13.05 | JManV | are you sure the nuclear can't target on the minimap now? |
| 00:13.28 | Xapti | barracks train ability make marines pop out of baracks, I wouldn't think it would be too hard to make them pop out of the targetted unit instead |
| 00:13.32 | JManV | aw... there's no "Ghost - Nuclar Freakin' Missile" |
| 00:13.39 | JManV | i think i should rename it |
| 00:14.59 | Skizot | there IS "psitrous oxide" |
| 00:16.30 | JManV | xapti: upi |
| 00:16.37 | JManV | you'd be surprised |
| 00:16.40 | Vesuvius | you can make magazine abilities pop out at target units |
| 00:16.47 | Vesuvius | trains seem really inflexible |
| 00:16.52 | JManV | it is |
| 00:16.56 | JManV | kind of |
| 00:19.07 | Xapti | damn editor... so much limitations |
| 00:19.20 | Xapti | like wtf is up with having noly 8 tiles avaiable for terrain? |
| 00:19.34 | JManV | if you can find where warp gate train requires a power source, you might be on to something |
| 00:20.04 | Xapti | there's even doodads that essentially just paint the terrain,so I don't really get it |
| 00:22.27 | Vesuvius | that's ont he warping in efffect |
| 00:22.33 | Vesuvius | but i didn't see any validators for it |
| 00:22.41 | Vesuvius | err it's a behavior |
| 00:23.03 | JManV | thats for the gateway itself |
| 00:23.47 | JManV | either way, if it's not part of the target, it unfortunately doesn't help :( |
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| 00:25.31 | thekill | thx |
| 00:25.33 | thekill | for the map |
| 00:25.36 | thekill | finally i got it |
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| 00:42.42 | Vesuvius | it's applied to all units being warped in |
| 00:42.52 | Vesuvius | including by warp gate warp |
| 00:43.03 | Vesuvius | but i guess it probably doesnt affect targetting |
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| 00:57.46 | thekill | aite finally i got it and i am dissapointed |
| 00:57.50 | thekill | the way its made is not how i wana trigger |
| 01:00.04 | thekill | its basically done all by text theres not one bit of interface |
| 01:00.13 | thekill | id have to go through college java courses to understand it |
| 01:01.52 | thekill | i cant understand all this {[ - = bla bla bla bla = - ------------------------- 1.97 return true; |
| 01:02.03 | thekill | all this _=- bullcrap |
| 01:07.07 | Skittles | 0.0 |
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| 01:08.04 | Bounty | >< |
| 01:08.23 | thekill | ya the way sotis is programmed is crazy |
| 01:08.36 | thekill | i cant understand all this --------------------------------- |
| 01:08.46 | thekill | int; auto blabalbal708 |
| 01:09.07 | thekill | faf |
| 01:09.13 | thekill | all this bullshit |
| 01:09.19 | thekill | i cant understand it its scripting |
| 01:09.43 | Vail | seems like a failure on your part to me.. |
| 01:09.53 | thekill | ok? |
| 01:10.02 | thekill | lmfao |
| 01:10.04 | Vail | failure is the wrong word |
| 01:10.16 | thekill | like if you dont understand computer programming you fail at life? |
| 01:10.19 | thekill | get the hell outa here |
| 01:10.36 | thekill | so u saying i wont be able to get for example a bank loan |
| 01:10.39 | Vail | hey i dont understand programing my self |
| 01:10.44 | thekill | ok |
| 01:10.56 | Vail | but your CONSTANT complaining is annoying |
| 01:10.58 | thekill | then why u say i fail |
| 01:11.04 | thekill | aight ill stop it |
| 01:11.21 | Xapti | thekillre |
| 01:11.23 | thekill | i just wish the guy that made sotis atleast organised his triggers into categories |
| 01:11.24 | Xapti | I told you |
| 01:11.31 | Xapti | you'd need to be able to read script |
| 01:11.33 | thekill | ya ok |
| 01:11.43 | thekill | no u dont tho |
| 01:11.58 | thekill | you can make maps even if u cant read the slightest thing in script |
| 01:12.02 | Vail | sorry used the wrong word may a lack of preperation on your part instead of failure. |
| 01:12.06 | thekill | like the way they made maps in wc3 |
| 01:12.27 | thekill | you can still do it |
| 01:12.37 | thekill | u dont have to know script |
| 01:12.49 | Vail | yes to make maps you dont need to know how to read script but to understand SotIS programing you do |
| 01:12.58 | thekill | ya |
| 01:12.59 | thekill | i know |
| 01:13.00 | thekill | :( |
| 01:13.08 | thekill | any map besides sotis thats like sotis |
| 01:13.12 | thekill | thats triggerd differently |
| 01:13.21 | thekill | interface wise |
| 01:13.36 | Xapti | the unlocked version did not change script back to the GUI triggers thatwere used to make it |
| 01:13.54 | thekill | what? |
| 01:13.58 | Xapti | it was originalyl written with GUI I assume |
| 01:14.05 | thekill | really? |
| 01:14.13 | thekill | so it was triggerd with normal triggers |
| 01:14.15 | Xapti | the version you have is hacked open |
| 01:14.31 | Vail | be back have to get dinner |
| 01:14.38 | Xapti | right now there's no easy way to convert script to triggers which is why it's script |
| 01:14.56 | thekill | but then the ulocked version changed from normal to scripted triggers? |
| 01:15.08 | Xapti | yes because it's hacked to get unlocked |
| 01:15.17 | thekill | oh gay |
| 01:15.23 | Xapti | when a map is locked it converts all the GUI trigger to script |
| 01:15.32 | Xapti | or moreso FORGETS the GUI trigger information |
| 01:15.35 | thekill | ahhh gh3333333y |
| 01:15.48 | thekill | so u saying there is no unpro ver basically |
| 01:15.53 | Xapti | since GUI triggers exist in script also, they just have the GUI version as well |
| 01:15.54 | thekill | its just that theres a hacked version |
| 01:16.03 | thekill | man |
| 01:16.11 | thekill | so there is no unlocked version then |
| 01:16.18 | Xapti | no that is the unlocked version |
| 01:16.23 | thekill | lmao |
| 01:16.25 | thekill | but it was hacked |
| 01:16.29 | Xapti | yes |
| 01:16.38 | thekill | i am saying that there is no PURE unlocked version |
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| 01:16.57 | thekill | do you know what i am saying |
| 01:17.01 | Xapti | if there was a pure unlocked version you would just be able to download it off blizzard's server |
| 01:17.12 | thekill | mhm ok |
| 01:17.40 | Xapti | "It did not involve: |
| 01:17.40 | Xapti | - GUI trigger reconstruction; I am planning to create a tool for this in the future; |
| 01:17.42 | Xapti | " |
| 01:18.03 | thekill | oh |
| 01:18.04 | thekill | lol |
| 01:18.06 | thekill | dang gl with that |
| 01:18.26 | Helral | meows |
| 01:18.33 | thekill | hey i thought the guythat made sotis made the map open source |
| 01:18.41 | Agouti | pets helral |
| 01:18.47 | Helral | purrrrs |
| 01:19.30 | Agouti | no he did not |
| 01:19.34 | Agouti | someone else hacked it |
| 01:19.37 | Agouti | there is a difference |
| 01:19.38 | Skittles | some guys wanted to hack it |
| 01:19.45 | Bounty | ~whois Skittles |
| 01:19.45 | purl | skittles are pooped by unicorns |
| 01:19.49 | Skittles | another reason why not too |
| 01:19.51 | Bounty | lolol |
| 01:19.58 | Agouti | well hi bounty :P |
| 01:20.01 | Skittles | I made that my sig btw |
| 01:20.03 | Bounty | Ello |
| 01:20.08 | Bounty | ~whois Agouti |
| 01:20.08 | purl | rumour has it, agouti is some sort of italian dinner |
| 01:20.14 | Bounty | oo |
| 01:20.27 | Skittles | purl who is bounty |
| 01:20.27 | purl | well, bounty is a trigger wh-ore |
| 01:20.33 | Agouti | and who doesn't like to go out on a friday night and eat out some italian? |
| 01:20.44 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:20.52 | Helral | waves paw |
| 01:20.53 | Skittles | so u get eat out often? |
| 01:21.01 | Agouti | often enough ^__^ |
| 01:21.14 | Bounty | you mean like... a girl? |
| 01:21.17 | Agouti | skittles: minecraft? |
| 01:21.17 | Bounty | =) |
| 01:21.21 | Bounty | or are we talking about food here |
| 01:21.26 | Skittles | sure |
| 01:21.32 | Agouti | do you have a server? |
| 01:21.42 | Skittles | no |
| 01:21.46 | Skittles | couldn't get past that error |
| 01:21.50 | Agouti | oh |
| 01:21.52 | Agouti | hmm |
| 01:21.58 | Skittles | may need to use the computer with the router |
| 01:21.59 | Agouti | ok, I can start one |
| 01:22.02 | Bounty | So |
| 01:22.06 | Bounty | heres a question for you guys |
| 01:22.17 | Bounty | Is it possible to make a first person camera that bobs |
| 01:22.37 | Skittles | k |
| 01:22.48 | Skittles | bobs? |
| 01:22.50 | Skittles | Sure why not? |
| 01:22.53 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:22.56 | Bounty | like |
| 01:23.02 | Bounty | say your viewing a zealot in first person |
| 01:23.04 | Bounty | and he attacks |
| 01:23.16 | Bounty | can you get his weapons to display and the camera to bob as if you were seeing from his perspective |
| 01:23.35 | Skittles | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/6479-ac130k-ruins-tech-demo/ |
| 01:23.37 | Skittles | watch his vid |
| 01:23.48 | Skittles | oh that's his 3rd person cam |
| 01:23.53 | Bounty | really dude? |
| 01:23.55 | Skittles | check his utube video |
| 01:23.56 | Bounty | who hasnt seen that |
| 01:23.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:23.58 | Skittles | it has a first |
| 01:24.01 | Skittles | person one |
| 01:24.03 | Skittles | and it's legit |
| 01:24.19 | Bounty | yeah but it doesnt answer my question at all |
| 01:24.19 | Skittles | he used legal models so he threw it away tho |
| 01:24.20 | Bounty | :) |
| 01:24.33 | Skittles | ? |
| 01:24.33 | Helral | bounty: if you mark a camera location on the model, then you can use that (never done it myself though, just know that there are some cam functinos that support it. |
| 01:24.42 | Skittles | Unit attacks move camera up then down... |
| 01:24.43 | Skittles | not that hard |
| 01:24.52 | Bounty | Helral |
| 01:24.58 | Skittles | idk why u asked tbh cause it was just that easy of a concept |
| 01:25.02 | Bounty | So you could have the camera literaly attached to a units head? |
| 01:25.09 | Bounty | Is that what you are saying? |
| 01:25.12 | Skittles | I guess? |
| 01:25.15 | Skittles | No? |
| 01:25.16 | Bounty | talking to Helral |
| 01:25.37 | Bounty | and no its not that easy Skit |
| 01:25.43 | Skittles | it is that easy. |
| 01:26.08 | Helral | basicly yes, but it requires model adjusting. |
| 01:26.23 | Bounty | How so? You couldnt just use attachment points? |
| 01:27.20 | Helral | dunno I never tried it, might be possible. |
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| 01:29.16 | XenoX101 | hello |
| 01:29.29 | Skittles | hi |
| 01:29.43 | Helral | meows |
| 01:29.59 | Bounty | Cant wait for chat channels |
| 01:30.06 | Bounty | I havent been able to do anything with my map for 5 days |
| 01:30.14 | Bounty | Not enough people lol |
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| 01:34.02 | Bounty | Anyone working on something fun and unique? |
| 01:34.17 | XenoX101 | not really |
| 01:34.22 | Vesuvius | still working on the fun part :P |
| 01:34.25 | XenoX101 | I cant get this damn medic heal actor to work |
| 01:34.30 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:34.32 | Bounty | i hate that one |
| 01:34.39 | XenoX101 | its impossible :( |
| 01:34.54 | Bounty | i always ghettoize it and just replace the model and make a temp unit for healing |
| 01:35.04 | Bounty | like a sentry or something |
| 01:35.05 | Vesuvius | i cannablize art |
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| 01:35.19 | Vesuvius | cannabalize |
| 01:35.28 | Vesuvius | is that the correct spelling? |
| 01:35.29 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 01:35.34 | Bounty | think so |
| 01:35.38 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 01:35.43 | XenoX101 | no |
| 01:35.47 | XenoX101 | cannIbalize |
| 01:35.52 | Vesuvius | damn |
| 01:35.55 | Bounty | well |
| 01:35.58 | Vesuvius | need to use that word more |
| 01:36.00 | Bounty | i still knew what you were talking about so |
| 01:36.02 | XenoX101 | haha |
| 01:36.03 | Bounty | it really doesnt matter |
| 01:36.05 | Bounty | >< |
| 01:36.05 | Vesuvius | so I remember how to spell it |
| 01:36.06 | Vesuvius | shh |
| 01:36.09 | Vesuvius | don't be practical |
| 01:36.13 | XenoX101 | tell that to an english teacher ;) |
| 01:36.14 | Vesuvius | grammar naxis are far more amusing |
| 01:36.16 | Vesuvius | nazis |
| 01:36.22 | Vesuvius | not naxis |
| 01:36.26 | Vesuvius | apparently i can't type either |
| 01:36.28 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 01:36.28 | Bounty | this isnt english class though so |
| 01:36.33 | Bounty | its ok to be laid back lol |
| 01:36.44 | XenoX101 | ya, as long as you spell words right |
| 01:36.49 | XenoX101 | ;p jk |
| 01:36.55 | Bounty | >< |
| 01:39.31 | Bounty | Is it just me or is sc2 dead/dieng? |
| 01:39.53 | Bounty | Outside of the esport scene of course |
| 01:39.56 | Vail | the lack of proper tooltips is killing SC2 Modding |
| 01:40.33 | Bounty | Well if i dont finish my map soon im jumping ship to Two Worlds 2 lol |
| 01:40.37 | Bounty | unless it sucks |
| 01:40.41 | Bounty | then ill be back :) |
| 01:40.57 | Vail | Two Worlds 2? |
| 01:41.00 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:41.06 | Vail | what is? |
| 01:41.13 | Bounty | http://www.gamestop.com/browse/ProductMerch.aspx?groupid=1013&loc=homesoon |
| 01:43.29 | Vail | eh... not interested |
| 01:43.45 | Bounty | Well, i like RPG's alot so >< |
| 01:43.52 | Vail | i used to |
| 01:43.52 | Bounty | Kinda my thing lol |
| 01:44.08 | Bounty | 8 player online baby |
| 01:44.40 | Vail | nice. |
| 01:51.55 | Xapti | what is that game |
| 01:52.10 | Bounty | Two Worlds 2? |
| 01:52.15 | Xapti | yeah |
| 01:52.26 | Bounty | Am i like the only one who reads gaming websites? lol |
| 01:52.33 | Bounty | You've never heard of Two Worlds? |
| 01:52.39 | Xapti | I read them a bit but never heard of that |
| 01:52.52 | Bounty | its an RPG |
| 01:53.00 | Bounty | thats really the only thing i can explain about it |
| 01:53.02 | Bounty | but it has online so |
| 01:53.10 | Xapti | never heard of the original |
| 01:53.11 | Bounty | hopefully it kicks ass |
| 01:53.27 | Xapti | like diablo, like baldru's gate, like dragon age? |
| 01:53.34 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:53.36 | Xapti | no |
| 01:53.44 | Xapti | which one |
| 01:53.45 | Bounty | ??? |
| 01:53.50 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:53.55 | Bounty | well first off |
| 01:54.00 | Xapti | dragon age isn't very good |
| 01:54.02 | Bounty | Baldurs gate and dragon age are the same thing only one is 3d |
| 01:54.05 | Xapti | no |
| 01:54.12 | Helral | better choicelist: like diablo, elderscrolls, dragon age. |
| 01:54.18 | Xapti | baldur's gate was non-linear role playing |
| 01:54.29 | Xapti | dragon age is a semi-interactive movie |
| 01:54.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:54.41 | Bounty | really dude ur gonna go that in depth? |
| 01:54.44 | Bounty | overall |
| 01:54.46 | Bounty | they are the same game |
| 01:54.48 | Xapti | yeah i don't like dragon age |
| 01:54.54 | Xapti | like it was a great game, bt |
| 01:54.55 | Bounty | not LITERALY the same game |
| 01:54.58 | Bounty | but u know what i meant |
| 01:54.59 | Bounty | =P |
| 01:55.02 | Xapti | could have been better if it was more like BG |
| 01:55.18 | Bounty | They should have just stuck with the Forgotten Realms theme |
| 01:55.24 | Bounty | i would like to see another Neverwinter Nights |
| 01:55.28 | Xapti | meh, I'm open to new worlds |
| 01:55.31 | Helral | baldursgate, dragon age, nwn. multiple "heroes" to control. 1 main char though. |
| 01:55.39 | Helral | Diablo: hack adn slash. |
| 01:56.01 | Helral | Elderscrolls: 1 hero, 1 main quewst line, tons of sidequests. |
| 01:56.29 | Bounty | I think Two worlds would be most like Elder Scrolls |
| 01:56.30 | Helral | those are basicly the different types. |
| 01:56.33 | Bounty | out of those choices |
| 01:56.41 | Bounty | Only it has online :) |
| 01:56.46 | Vail | i dont like games that icant mod >..> * whistles * |
| 01:56.59 | Bounty | Honestly |
| 01:57.06 | Bounty | Ive been thinking about picking up NWN 2 |
| 01:57.17 | Bounty | if the community is still booming over there that would be nice |
| 01:57.28 | Vail | ive been thinking of picking up a copy of Gary's Mod |
| 01:57.35 | Bounty | The Starcraft 2 community isnt ready for real mods imo lol |
| 01:57.40 | Helral | I've been thinking of sleep |
| 01:57.43 | Bounty | they want dota and TD's |
| 01:57.47 | Bounty | so just let them be :) |
| 01:58.00 | Bounty | LBP2 looks cool |
| 01:58.10 | Bounty | First Person Shooter with Sackboy |
| 01:58.11 | Starcraft | how did you find me now bounty |
| 01:58.13 | Bounty | >< |
| 01:58.13 | Starcraft | referr ? |
| 01:58.29 | Bounty | wha? |
| 01:58.32 | Starcraft | you read the forums |
| 01:58.35 | Starcraft | ? |
| 01:58.38 | Starcraft | lol |
| 01:58.41 | Starcraft | Starcraft |
| 01:58.47 | Starcraft | wtf is my nickname |
| 01:59.01 | Starcraft | im not starcraft |
| 01:59.09 | Bounty | Well it says thats ur name |
| 01:59.10 | Bounty | >< |
| 01:59.13 | Starcraft | im stewox |
| 01:59.23 | Starcraft | hm maybe it was ... well idk |
| 01:59.31 | Starcraft | you were saying what about the mods |
| 01:59.40 | Starcraft | real mods |
| 01:59.42 | Starcraft | im the guy who wants to make mods yes |
| 01:59.44 | Starcraft | core of it |
| 01:59.51 | Starcraft | not just changes and editd |
| 01:59.57 | Starcraft | but i made some great progress |
| 01:59.58 | Bounty | When i say real modes |
| 01:59.59 | Bounty | mods* |
| 02:00.11 | Bounty | I mean mods that are new games and genres |
| 02:00.18 | Starcraft | yes |
| 02:00.23 | Bounty | I just dont think this community is ready for that |
| 02:00.25 | Starcraft | im in the DUNE team now |
| 02:00.43 | Bounty | Actually |
| 02:00.44 | Xapti | why don't you /nick stewox |
| 02:00.44 | Starcraft | this is the thread we need support now currently |
| 02:00.48 | Bounty | Let me rephrase that |
| 02:00.54 | Bounty | Its not they are not ready |
| 02:00.54 | Stewox | ok |
| 02:00.59 | Bounty | they just dont WANT anything else |
| 02:01.00 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:01.30 | Xapti | two worlds 1 got pretty bad reviews |
| 02:01.32 | Motive | hello mapster. |
| 02:01.42 | Bounty | Yeah because if its framerate Xapti |
| 02:01.45 | Stewox | yeah , that i already seen , SC2 editor has no SP campaign maps tools and so not SP cut scene tools , so no big mod support |
| 02:01.57 | Xapti | can't be the only reason |
| 02:02.00 | Motive | facepalms. |
| 02:02.01 | Bounty | I dont blame the tools Stewox |
| 02:02.04 | Bounty | I blame the people :) |
| 02:02.10 | Bounty | but thats just me |
| 02:02.11 | Stewox | well ok |
| 02:02.24 | Helral | isn't blamed :) |
| 02:02.26 | Stewox | but the editor has no native support for TC mods yet |
| 02:02.31 | Bounty | well im not talking about the people here of course |
| 02:02.36 | Bounty | this is the minority lol |
| 02:02.37 | Bounty | imo |
| 02:02.48 | Bounty | TC? |
| 02:02.52 | Bounty | oh |
| 02:02.52 | Helral | doesn't count as people ;p |
| 02:02.55 | Bounty | total conversion |
| 02:02.57 | Bounty | well |
| 02:02.58 | Helral | meows |
| 02:03.04 | Motive | total conversion mods have never relied on an editor to do everything for them |
| 02:03.07 | Bounty | i think some of the things ive made are pretty damn close to TC lol |
| 02:03.12 | Stewox | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/15317-tutorial-creating-a-sc2-mod-file-for-custom-data-edits/?page=2#posts |
| 02:03.16 | Bounty | and like ive said a thousand times |
| 02:03.17 | Motive | they've always been just diving right into the MPQs/data files and letting loose |
| 02:03.21 | Stewox | that's the current issue making but i done some progress already |
| 02:03.25 | Stewox | thread http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/15317-tutorial-creating-a-sc2-mod-file-for-custom-data-edits/?page=2#posts |
| 02:03.30 | Stewox | oh already pasted |
| 02:03.31 | Bounty | with how much knowledge i lack in the editor i think i do damn good |
| 02:03.39 | Stewox | yeah |
| 02:03.45 | Bounty | atleast im doing something differant |
| 02:03.46 | Stewox | that's what's ive been looking for |
| 02:03.53 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/user/Bounty4321?feature=mhum |
| 02:03.54 | Stewox | one who knows with Mpq's already to make a tutorial |
| 02:04.12 | Stewox | and if you read the topic thread on page2 you'll see what i mean |
| 02:04.20 | Stewox | everybody will benefit from this community resource |
| 02:04.33 | Motive | if you want total XML control then extract the GameData from the .SC2Mod archive |
| 02:04.35 | Motive | it's easy |
| 02:04.40 | Stewox | yes exacty |
| 02:04.42 | Motive | I do it all the time for reference to use catalog functions |
| 02:05.10 | Stewox | i've been all planing on this , the problem is im first with blizzard tools , i have my modding experience in past games , cod2 , C&C , coh ... |
| 02:05.29 | Bounty | Stewox |
| 02:05.37 | Motive | past games != SC2 |
| 02:05.37 | Bounty | You can make an entirely new game in the editor as it is lol |
| 02:05.41 | Stewox | i know for TC it must be full control , the filesize minimization that editor does on "mods" is not the real mod |
| 02:05.47 | Motive | SC2 has an extremely powerful editor |
| 02:05.52 | Motive | it certainly beats the fuck out of C&C's. |
| 02:05.56 | Motive | Or any other RTSes for that matter. |
| 02:06.03 | Bounty | I agree on that |
| 02:06.06 | Bounty | Filesize is the only thing |
| 02:06.11 | Bounty | But thats about it imo |
| 02:06.16 | Motive | And filesize can be optimized, especially if you're not using external models. |
| 02:06.17 | Stewox | i know the basics of modding and i've done call of duty 2 Scripts .... real scripting c/++ kindof stuff ! |
| 02:06.25 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-kFj3SlHkI |
| 02:06.29 | Bounty | Does that look like SC2 ? |
| 02:06.31 | Bounty | no it doesnt |
| 02:06.32 | Motive | CoD2 won't help you with SC2. |
| 02:06.37 | Bounty | and i dont know much about the editor |
| 02:06.39 | Bounty | and im able to do that lol |
| 02:06.40 | Helral | Stewox: you should talk to rod for a basefile on the data stuff. |
| 02:07.08 | Stewox | i was admin as well as main modder of one of the best mods in my country for cod2 , i know modding and files and stuff , i know the basics , i just needed some advice with mpqs , and i found already a lot |
| 02:07.16 | Stewox | BASEFILE |
| 02:07.17 | Stewox | EXACTLY |
| 02:07.22 | Stewox | you get what i mean |
| 02:07.30 | Stewox | that's what im talking about |
| 02:07.40 | Bounty | ok i guess ill just stop talking >< |
| 02:07.44 | Stewox | if you read the thread , you see walls of thext , that's what im explaning to people |
| 02:07.45 | Helral | I created an xml combiner and rod supplied me with the data files that he wanted to hae combined. |
| 02:07.47 | Bounty | on this subject atleast |
| 02:07.49 | Stewox | and they didn't get it |
| 02:07.56 | Stewox | yes im so excited that's why i talk so much |
| 02:08.02 | Motive | You want something like this? |
| 02:08.02 | Motive | https://github.com/Motive/CortexToolkit/blob/master/Base.SC2Data/GameData/UnitData.xml |
| 02:08.09 | Stewox | thank thank thank you |
| 02:08.41 | Bounty | Im just sayign that u dont need all that crap to make an entirely new game in the editor |
| 02:08.51 | Stewox | i was actually in a taks to build a basefile and upload on mapster for others to use on TC mods , ... if something like this already exsits ... that would be cool |
| 02:08.51 | Bounty | i think that video shows that |
| 02:09.07 | Bounty | and im not even good with the editor |
| 02:09.21 | Motive | Just open a blank .SC2Mod and write it, extract, and upload to a version control. |
| 02:09.24 | Motive | I don't see what you mean by base file. o_o |
| 02:09.25 | Stewox | making Dune requires this ... it will still be dependency on Liberty of course it won't be a 3 GB mod |
| 02:10.06 | Helral | Motive: a basefile contains all the changed values up to that patch. so that new patches won't affect existing data anymore. |
| 02:10.08 | Bounty | anyone reading what im saying or? |
| 02:10.09 | Bounty | rofl |
| 02:10.13 | Stewox | basefile ... really see the thread if you don't understand , i know the logic but i just didn't pull it off , but it seems to me not such a big deal anyways |
| 02:10.15 | Bounty | ~8ball |
| 02:10.15 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: As I see it, yes |
| 02:10.17 | Motive | Ah |
| 02:10.20 | XenoX101 | Dune? |
| 02:10.21 | Stewox | lol bounty wait im going to |
| 02:10.25 | XenoX101 | Frank Herbrt's Dune? |
| 02:10.28 | XenoX101 | Herbert* |
| 02:10.33 | Stewox | yes |
| 02:10.43 | Stewox | Dune Evolution .... the team on sc2mapster |
| 02:10.47 | Stewox | C&C dune actually |
| 02:10.57 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 02:11.04 | XenoX101 | I never check the forums |
| 02:11.06 | Stewox | ... im just on the team im not leader |
| 02:11.07 | Bounty | I really wouldnt waste my time with that Stewox |
| 02:11.11 | Bounty | that sounds like a suicide mission |
| 02:11.17 | Stewox | yeah |
| 02:11.18 | Stewox | ... |
| 02:11.20 | Stewox | i know |
| 02:11.20 | Bounty | Making an RTS |
| 02:11.22 | Stewox | license |
| 02:11.26 | Bounty | for a starcraft community |
| 02:11.27 | Bounty | no |
| 02:11.28 | Bounty | not eve nthat |
| 02:11.28 | Stewox | i already warned the guys ... |
| 02:11.32 | Bounty | but |
| 02:11.38 | Bounty | this community is glued to TD and Dota as it is |
| 02:11.41 | Stewox | but i don't know if they ever though about it |
| 02:11.49 | Bounty | i mean |
| 02:11.53 | Bounty | if they could do it fast and easily |
| 02:11.55 | Bounty | they go for it |
| 02:11.55 | Motive | Don't worry about what the community wants. Make something because you enjoy making it. |
| 02:11.58 | Bounty | but not if its going to take alot of work |
| 02:12.04 | Motive | I've done that with everything I make and it's turned out fine. |
| 02:12.05 | Motive | :P |
| 02:12.17 | Stewox | bounty , the mod will be anyways too large for bnet at this point |
| 02:12.17 | Bounty | Can you ever get enough ppl to play your games though Motive? |
| 02:12.20 | Motive | Yes |
| 02:12.21 | Stewox | 50 MB is not enoguh |
| 02:12.23 | Motive | I've had page 2 at least |
| 02:12.25 | Motive | since release day |
| 02:12.29 | Bounty | What did you make |
| 02:12.31 | Motive | and a fairly large community |
| 02:12.35 | Motive | Cortex Roleplay engine |
| 02:12.37 | XenoX101 | If you're going to remake Dune II you'll fail, you need to do better then that |
| 02:12.39 | Motive | http://cortexrp.com/ |
| 02:12.53 | XenoX101 | I mean shit that game is 16 years old |
| 02:12.55 | Bounty | i dont even count that imo lol |
| 02:13.08 | Bounty | i cant even explain it |
| 02:13.09 | Bounty | like |
| 02:13.16 | Bounty | thats not "game" |
| 02:13.22 | Bounty | its a totally diff experience >< |
| 02:13.23 | Stewox | the Dune team is quite something actually , it's really like a ton of artists and modellers , 2 coders only so i got to help for coder nr3 |
| 02:13.24 | Motive | tell that to the people who like it. Lol |
| 02:13.24 | Helral | takes a nap |
| 02:13.28 | Bounty | no no |
| 02:13.30 | Bounty | im not saying it sucks |
| 02:13.32 | Bounty | not at all |
| 02:13.34 | Motive | oh I got that |
| 02:13.37 | Motive | it's not a traditional SC2 map |
| 02:13.39 | Motive | at all. |
| 02:13.41 | Bounty | yeah |
| 02:13.49 | Motive | It's a continuation from a popular group of maps from WC3 |
| 02:13.51 | SC2NappingKitten | night all *meooowwwwwww* |
| 02:13.53 | Motive | I just improved on it a ton and had a lot of fun doing it |
| 02:13.56 | Bounty | that to >< |
| 02:14.05 | Bounty | but im referring to new games |
| 02:14.12 | Motive | I still think my philosophy is right though |
| 02:14.15 | Bounty | that are not TD's or a dota |
| 02:14.19 | XenoX101 | noo, curse you GE, didnt save enough backups :( |
| 02:14.20 | Motive | If you enjoy making a map, you're never going to regret making it. |
| 02:14.27 | Stewox | i didn't speak a lot i just joined when i saw they needed help on this basefile for TC mods ... i needed that also so i just quit my individual project and switched to them for dune |
| 02:14.30 | Motive | Don't make it for the fame, trust me. It's not worth it. |
| 02:14.33 | Motive | People are stupid and like shit anyways. |
| 02:14.41 | Bounty | Nobody makes maps for the fame |
| 02:14.46 | Motive | You'd be surprised |
| 02:14.46 | Motive | :P |
| 02:14.49 | Bounty | People accuse me of that lol |
| 02:14.57 | Bounty | But the thing is i need some sort of fame so i can play it |
| 02:15.02 | Bounty | not even game |
| 02:15.03 | Motive | yeah |
| 02:15.04 | Bounty | but i need people |
| 02:15.08 | Motive | That's just the popularity system's fault |
| 02:15.08 | Bounty | fame* |
| 02:15.17 | Motive | but I digress, even if nobody played Cortex I'd still have made it and loved doing it. |
| 02:15.33 | Bounty | Well people will always play Cortex |
| 02:15.36 | Bounty | You have a monopoly lol |
| 02:15.37 | Motive | I was surprised to see huskystarcraft use it to try out a few melee scenarios. Lol |
| 02:15.39 | Motive | Yeah, exactly. |
| 02:15.51 | Motive | That was the plan, make a roleplay system so advanced it wasn't even worth trying to copy |
| 02:15.55 | Bounty | Which is good for that type of map bc i mean |
| 02:15.58 | Bounty | What else could someone do? |
| 02:15.59 | Motive | and if they wanted to copy/make it better, make them join the beast. :P |
| 02:16.00 | Bounty | nothing |
| 02:16.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:16.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster Shawn|Rawr (~chatzilla@ip70-170-34-31.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 02:16.26 | Bounty | Making a competing make against Cortex would be pointless |
| 02:16.33 | Bounty | map* |
| 02:16.40 | Motive | Yeah |
| 02:16.41 | Bounty | U cant win with that |
| 02:16.52 | Motive | I was working on Cortex since beta as soon as I could read the Galaxy API spec |
| 02:16.53 | Motive | xD |
| 02:17.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:17.26 | Bounty | Is anyone besides freaking progammer goign to do the news? |
| 02:17.31 | Bounty | I'm waiting for my spotlight |
| 02:17.33 | Motive | A few people tried though. |
| 02:17.35 | Bounty | >< |
| 02:17.42 | Motive | Reactorex did a good job innovating. Came up with some interesting ideas I didn't. |
| 02:17.52 | Motive | Shaki tried too but he just used my code and failed anyways. |
| 02:17.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:18.02 | Stewox | yeah bounty filesize is smaller |
| 02:18.14 | Stewox | because it's only the changes it takes out to a file |
| 02:18.19 | Bounty | ur just now getting to what i said? |
| 02:18.21 | Bounty | :) |
| 02:18.23 | Stewox | and that's totally not the way to go for TCs |
| 02:18.27 | Motive | you should write a simple C# program or something |
| 02:18.32 | Motive | that goes through all of the versions of SC2 |
| 02:18.35 | Motive | diffs the GameData files |
| 02:18.40 | Motive | and builds one giant base file |
| 02:18.53 | Stewox | that means |
| 02:18.56 | Motive | it shouldn't be too hard to anyone with basic XML knowhow. |
| 02:19.05 | Stewox | if i take Liberty GameData Xmls , they will be 1.0 ? |
| 02:19.11 | Stewox | and not 1.2 for example ? |
| 02:19.18 | Motive | Mods/* will be 1.0 |
| 02:19.27 | Stewox | i mean the code |
| 02:19.28 | Motive | Versions/* will be the diffs in the patches. |
| 02:19.35 | Stewox | the xml capability , the coded stuff that's native |
| 02:19.42 | Motive | I dunno what you mean |
| 02:19.50 | Stewox | LibertyMulti is only balance changes |
| 02:19.55 | Stewox | nothing there |
| 02:20.01 | Bounty | Maybe if i get dayvie to play my map i can get some publicity |
| 02:20.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:20.05 | Motive | Mods/Liberty.SC2Mod/* is Starcraft 2 v1.0. |
| 02:20.05 | Stewox | it's a mod , changes from Liberty |
| 02:20.07 | Motive | No changes at all. |
| 02:20.39 | Stewox | oh , i was actually asking if the ENGINE got updated so there is more features in data ... |
| 02:20.50 | Motive | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.51 | Stewox | new params ? |
| 02:20.52 | Motive | as * gets higher |
| 02:21.02 | Stewox | oh |
| 02:21.04 | Motive | I dunno if there were structure changes. |
| 02:21.15 | Stewox | yes yes structure changes that's what i mean |
| 02:21.19 | Stewox | so |
| 02:21.32 | Stewox | i would need to get through all the patches .... |
| 02:21.40 | Stewox | i was afraid of that |
| 02:22.00 | Stewox | well to be sure , if there's no changes , fine but , i think i have to do it probably anyways |
| 02:22.06 | Bounty | Seriously |
| 02:22.13 | Bounty | Is ANYONE else goign to do the news for the site besides progammer? |
| 02:22.24 | Stewox | ...D |
| 02:22.33 | Stewox | they do they do |
| 02:22.33 | Motive | Lol. vjeux and sixen used to do it :P |
| 02:22.38 | Bounty | Well |
| 02:22.58 | Bounty | my beta video hasnt been put up but old ass stuff is being newsed? |
| 02:23.08 | Bounty | including like the 434289742987th tron light cycle bike map |
| 02:23.09 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:23.37 | Bounty | Not making it any easier getting a 14 player map tested |
| 02:23.46 | Motive | If you innovate and bring it up with someone who does news it'll get newsed, trust me. |
| 02:23.56 | Motive | at least it used to be easy to |
| 02:23.56 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-kFj3SlHkI |
| 02:23.59 | Motive | dunno about now. Lol |
| 02:24.26 | Motive | Oh that's cool. Yeah. I could see that getting newsed. |
| 02:24.37 | Motive | UI needs a little work imo. But yeah. Lol |
| 02:24.39 | Motive | Looks fun |
| 02:24.49 | Bounty | yeah im not bothering with UI yet |
| 02:24.56 | Bounty | if u watch the entire video though |
| 02:25.00 | Bounty | ull see what it has so far |
| 02:25.06 | Bounty | UI spawn selection :) |
| 02:25.08 | Motive | Lol oh hello WoW models |
| 02:25.17 | Motive | Thought they looked familiar |
| 02:25.19 | Bounty | and weapons |
| 02:25.23 | Bounty | :) |
| 02:25.30 | Bounty | never seen another map include weapons yet |
| 02:26.14 | Stewox | bounty you said that you also do manually ? |
| 02:26.18 | Stewox | the mod your working on |
| 02:26.23 | Bounty | manually? |
| 02:26.25 | Bounty | what do you mean |
| 02:26.29 | Stewox | through mpq's at first |
| 02:26.47 | Bounty | honestly i have no idea what your talking about so the answer is prolly no |
| 02:26.53 | Bounty | :) |
| 02:26.55 | Stewox | the editor is capable of doing much , but not really everything |
| 02:27.14 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/user/Bounty4321?feature=mhum |
| 02:27.16 | Bounty | thats my channel |
| 02:27.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster Funkeh` (~funk@82.111.122.90) |
| 02:27.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster Funkeh` (~funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 02:27.25 | Bounty | ive done all those with 99% triggers |
| 02:27.28 | Stewox | you were talkning about that before now you don't know at all |
| 02:27.36 | Stewox | oh |
| 02:27.40 | Motive | you word things in a very confusing way Stewox |
| 02:27.44 | Motive | is your native language english? |
| 02:27.59 | Stewox | ofcourse not , |
| 02:28.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:28.05 | Stewox | im not english at all |
| 02:28.06 | Motive | mmk that explains it. Lol |
| 02:28.14 | Stewox | far far away |
| 02:28.25 | Bounty | well regardless |
| 02:28.32 | Bounty | every map on that channel was done with triggers |
| 02:28.38 | Motive | But I'm not English either, I just speak it. :P |
| 02:28.52 | Bounty | the people who played them loved em but thats the problem, not many played them :) |
| 02:29.13 | Stewox | me too , but when it's late ... lazyness kicks off , but you know im not talking like this on purpose |
| 02:29.19 | Stewox | it's also fast typing |
| 02:30.26 | Xapti | there's no way to trigger an event by scroll wheel up or down is there? |
| 02:30.32 | Stewox | well .. i was skipping english class for a year since i knew pretty much everything , came by to write test and get a good score ... so i lost the practise :p |
| 02:30.40 | Stewox | du |
| 02:30.45 | Stewox | nno |
| 02:30.47 | Bounty | i think there is Xapti |
| 02:30.51 | Bounty | mouse wheel up? |
| 02:31.03 | Bounty | should be under the mouse button presets if its there |
| 02:31.03 | Xapti | I tried looking under mouse click, key press and didn't see it |
| 02:31.07 | Bounty | oh |
| 02:31.09 | Bounty | nvm then |
| 02:31.10 | Bounty | :) |
| 02:31.19 | Bounty | gay |
| 02:31.28 | Xapti | there's just middle mouse click |
| 02:31.29 | Bounty | u could do alot of cool stuff with mouse wheel |
| 02:31.32 | Xapti | yeah |
| 02:31.37 | Xapti | I'm going to bug report ti |
| 02:31.45 | Bounty | middle mouse click? |
| 02:31.57 | Xapti | yeah clicking the scroll wheel |
| 02:31.59 | Bounty | try that, its most likely pushing the wheel down |
| 02:32.01 | Bounty | but never know |
| 02:32.04 | Bounty | give it a shot lol |
| 02:32.09 | Xapti | i mean scroll up or down |
| 02:32.13 | Xapti | not click the wheel |
| 02:32.26 | Bounty | yeah i know but maybe it is the scroll and not the click |
| 02:32.31 | Bounty | who knows >< |
| 02:32.34 | Xapti | it's not the scroll i've used it before |
| 02:32.39 | Bounty | ok then |
| 02:32.41 | Bounty | You know |
| 02:32.42 | Bounty | :) |
| 02:33.18 | Bounty | I need to build a fucking fanbase or something |
| 02:33.40 | Bounty | tired of relying on the slim chance someone sees my video and reads the desc that tells them i am looking for testers and how to contact me lol |
| 02:33.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tordy (6274591f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.116.89.31) |
| 02:33.49 | Tordy | who else is experiencing a huge blizzard storm !? |
| 02:33.54 | Bounty | i am |
| 02:33.54 | Tordy | man this snow is raping our area |
| 02:33.56 | Tordy | not cool |
| 02:33.59 | Bounty | state? |
| 02:34.02 | Tordy | gonna be lots of shoveling! |
| 02:34.04 | Tordy | NY |
| 02:34.08 | Bounty | NJ here lol |
| 02:34.11 | Bounty | and yes it is |
| 02:34.17 | Tordy | im not gonna appreciate the shoveling |
| 02:34.19 | Tordy | at all :[ |
| 02:34.25 | Bounty | Not as bad as last year though man |
| 02:34.28 | Tordy | 15 inches already |
| 02:34.29 | Bounty | that shit pissed me off |
| 02:34.36 | Tordy | blizzard shows no signs of slowing down |
| 02:34.42 | Tordy | damn you bli$$ard!!!! |
| 02:35.00 | Bounty | itll be gone 2morrow |
| 02:35.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:35.32 | Tordy | i dont even remember anything last year |
| 02:35.37 | Tordy | this year feels bigger |
| 02:35.42 | Bounty | no way |
| 02:35.48 | Tordy | at least in our area |
| 02:35.51 | Bounty | last year we got hit with like 5 snow storms in a week |
| 02:36.00 | Bounty | i shoveled like 15 inches of snow |
| 02:36.03 | Bounty | then the next day |
| 02:36.06 | Bounty | we got another fucking 12 inches |
| 02:36.08 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:36.11 | Stewox | 15 inch that's a lot ? |
| 02:36.17 | Stewox | sound like 40 Cm |
| 02:36.21 | Tordy | the last significant storm i remember was like 8 years ago |
| 02:36.25 | Stewox | lol that covers your legs |
| 02:36.26 | Tordy | that was like 24 inches |
| 02:36.27 | Xapti | I got like 3 feet of snow within like 1.5 week. it was like 2 feet in 2 days, then another foot like a week later |
| 02:36.42 | Bounty | the last BIG stormi remember was in the 90's |
| 02:36.43 | Xapti | that was a month ago though |
| 02:36.46 | Stewox | how much is a foot |
| 02:36.50 | Stewox | one foot |
| 02:36.53 | Tordy | blizz of 1993? |
| 02:36.58 | Tordy | that was the biggest |
| 02:37.00 | Bounty | yeah |
| 02:37.03 | Bounty | that was a good one |
| 02:37.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:37.06 | Tordy | for the time of my life |
| 02:37.19 | Xapti | one foot is like 30.5 cm |
| 02:37.20 | Tordy | wasnt old enough to remember |
| 02:37.26 | Bounty | i was little when that happend |
| 02:37.28 | Stewox | 3 FEET |
| 02:37.29 | Bounty | think iw as like 10 |
| 02:37.32 | Bounty | or 8 |
| 02:37.33 | Stewox | you were covered in snow |
| 02:37.35 | Bounty | but the shit came up to my chin |
| 02:37.35 | Stewox | lmao |
| 02:37.36 | Bounty | in 93 |
| 02:37.37 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:37.41 | Tordy | 1993 i was 4 years old so nope not gonna remember |
| 02:37.49 | Bounty | u missed out |
| 02:37.49 | Stewox | ah too bad |
| 02:37.51 | Tordy | :[ |
| 02:37.52 | Stewox | i know |
| 02:37.56 | Xapti | so you can think of FT to CM like OZ to ML |
| 02:37.57 | Bounty | i was liike 8 and it came up to my chin |
| 02:38.03 | Bounty | good times |
| 02:38.03 | Stewox | it was a lot of snow some 15 yrs ago |
| 02:38.14 | Stewox | after 2000 WINTERS ARE CRAP |
| 02:38.15 | Xapti | although Oz to ml is like 29.6 or something |
| 02:38.21 | Tordy | hi guys |
| 02:38.24 | Xapti | but still close to 30 |
| 02:38.33 | Tordy | we dont even have salt |
| 02:38.34 | Tordy | shit |
| 02:38.46 | Stewox | before > november 11 super snow , NOW > december 26 rain |
| 02:38.59 | Stewox | i hate train in winter |
| 02:39.00 | Tordy | Late Merry Christmas btw |
| 02:39.09 | Tordy | i like how christmas there was no snow in sight |
| 02:39.13 | Tordy | and then 12 hours later |
| 02:39.15 | Tordy | boom 12 inches |
| 02:39.27 | Xapti | OMG this god damn map edtor |
| 02:39.31 | Tordy | i mean i like occasional snow |
| 02:39.31 | Xapti | keeps memory leaking |
| 02:39.36 | Tordy | not too much like this! |
| 02:39.38 | Bounty | Honestly |
| 02:39.41 | Xapti | 1.6GB memory |
| 02:39.41 | Stewox | Xapti |
| 02:39.48 | Stewox | of freaking course |
| 02:39.50 | Tordy | why you leakin bro |
| 02:39.54 | Stewox | the whole sc2 is leaky |
| 02:39.56 | Bounty | Once you're out of school, snow should no longer appeal to you lol |
| 02:40.01 | Bounty | >< |
| 02:40.04 | Tordy | yea |
| 02:40.05 | Bounty | thats just me though |
| 02:40.06 | Xapti | sc2 game isn't leaky |
| 02:40.09 | Bounty | i hate it now |
| 02:40.12 | Bounty | because i have to shovel it |
| 02:40.13 | Bounty | lolol |
| 02:40.16 | Stewox | capmpaign is |
| 02:40.20 | Stewox | so is the editor lag |
| 02:40.21 | Tordy | finished finals last week |
| 02:40.30 | Tordy | not good time to snow now! |
| 02:40.50 | Tordy | lets hope it doenst snow on the 4th-21 |
| 02:40.56 | Tordy | i hope it doesnt |
| 02:41.01 | Tordy | because i have to take winter school |
| 02:41.03 | Stewox | editor lag is actually HDD operations , it's loading so much crap , the editor doesn't make caches of available items , it loads whole files over and over again |
| 02:41.16 | Tordy | and then |
| 02:41.23 | Tordy | forgets to deallocate them? |
| 02:41.28 | Tordy | bad garbage collector? |
| 02:41.37 | Zoxc | fix: SSD and tons of memory |
| 02:41.40 | Stewox | well , it doesn't have to clean |
| 02:41.50 | Stewox | that fix is expensive |
| 02:41.52 | Tordy | i dont have money for ssd :[ |
| 02:41.54 | Stewox | and i already have high end pc |
| 02:42.20 | Tordy | i want an ssd so bad but the feeling of being poor and in college |
| 02:42.23 | Tordy | no good Zoxc |
| 02:42.26 | Zoxc | buying a SSD is a great idea anyway =P |
| 02:43.03 | Zoxc | waits on Intel's 3rd gen |
| 02:43.23 | Tordy | intel's 3rd gen of ssds? |
| 02:43.34 | Tordy | who here is ready for Sandy Bridge!? |
| 02:43.37 | Zoxc | yeah |
| 02:43.47 | Zoxc | Sandy Bridge doesn't seem that great |
| 02:43.50 | Tordy | Ivy Bridge is lookin good though |
| 02:43.52 | Tordy | 22nm |
| 02:43.56 | Tordy | looks promising |
| 02:44.18 | Zoxc | I hope Bulldozer will be great |
| 02:44.19 | Tordy | well maybe i'll finally buy a laptop once sandy bridge processors are out |
| 02:44.33 | Tordy | i always promise myself to wait at least 2 generations between laptops |
| 02:44.51 | Zoxc | Sandy Bridge are nice for laptops, especially if you don't need a dedicated GPU |
| 02:44.55 | Tordy | until i get a good job w/ good salary, this promise wont be broken! |
| 02:45.15 | Tordy | yea the integrated gpu is getting a lot better |
| 02:45.36 | Tordy | hopefully it can handle sc2 even on lowest |
| 02:46.10 | Zoxc | I wouldn't use it for SC2, perhaps some simple or old games |
| 02:46.30 | Tordy | sc2 will prob be the most demanding thing i'd play on the laptop |
| 02:46.49 | Tordy | everything else older games and pre-ps2 emulation |
| 02:46.55 | Stewox | sc2 is making my pc go upside down |
| 02:47.00 | Stewox | in terms of resources |
| 02:47.10 | Tordy | sc2 is kinda bad at managing resources :[ |
| 02:47.11 | Stewox | it will make your laptop burn |
| 02:47.25 | Tordy | well it hasnt burnt down my 2007 laptop w/ integrated gpu |
| 02:47.34 | Zoxc | SC2 requires more than 2 GB ram, I had to RMA my other 2 GB =P |
| 02:47.34 | Tordy | gettting 15fps average on low |
| 02:47.42 | Stewox | im just saying |
| 02:47.46 | Stewox | "burned" |
| 02:47.50 | Stewox | like ... pwnd |
| 02:47.53 | Tordy | im not actually playing it seriously though |
| 02:47.55 | Tordy | just use it to edit maps |
| 02:48.06 | Tordy | hate how even the map editor is so intensive |
| 02:48.12 | Tordy | even with the terrain module off |
| 02:48.12 | Stewox | of course |
| 02:48.20 | Tordy | just looking at triggers |
| 02:48.27 | Tordy | uses 80% cpu on dual core on my laptop |
| 02:48.30 | Stewox | yeh needs tons of CPU power |
| 02:48.37 | Stewox | but it's bugged |
| 02:48.38 | Stewox | that's why |
| 02:48.41 | Zoxc | that's because Blizzard suck at programming |
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| 02:48.49 | Tordy | but then when i put it in the background, cpu is fine |
| 02:48.50 | Stewox | it's not suppose to be like it |
| 02:48.56 | Stewox | zoxc agreed |
| 02:48.59 | Tordy | hi Stewox |
| 02:49.06 | Stewox | blizzard's a creative company |
| 02:49.19 | Stewox | let them cut slack , they do a great job |
| 02:49.26 | Stewox | but programming ... is nooby |
| 02:49.57 | Stewox | blizzcon 2010 |
| 02:49.58 | Tordy | but arent blizz programmers high class programmers? |
| 02:50.02 | Stewox | no |
| 02:50.05 | Stewox | NOT at all |
| 02:50.16 | Stewox | those are un-social noobs ... rough said |
| 02:50.16 | Tordy | i mean it's pretty difficult to get a job at blizz |
| 02:50.17 | Zoxc | well the SC2 (graphics) engine doesn't seem to bad |
| 02:50.26 | Stewox | it's the core of it |
| 02:50.28 | Tordy | maybe it's just the workload |
| 02:50.30 | Stewox | they always made leaky games |
| 02:50.41 | Tordy | that even makes good programmers struggle |
| 02:50.42 | Stewox | wc3 was as well , search some archives |
| 02:51.00 | Stewox | if you want programming , go see IDSoftware |
| 02:51.11 | Tordy | yea some quality is really bad |
| 02:51.23 | Tordy | even though blizz's promise is to maintain quality |
| 02:51.30 | Stewox | blizzard's creativity is unchallenged however they lack technology skills |
| 02:51.44 | Stewox | yeah blizzards contradicts it self |
| 02:51.54 | Stewox | they make game for a lot of players |
| 02:51.56 | Zoxc | which is really bad if you want a modding community |
| 02:52.07 | Stewox | just see this |
| 02:52.08 | Tordy | blizz is like anti-modding atm |
| 02:52.13 | Stewox | they make a great game |
| 02:52.18 | Stewox | really good game |
| 02:52.25 | Zoxc | blizzard PR is pro-modding |
| 02:52.31 | P_R_Deltoid | what |
| 02:52.33 | P_R_Deltoid | shut up no I'm not |
| 02:52.34 | Tordy | ^ |
| 02:52.36 | Stewox | dynamic graphics , very robust settings |
| 02:52.39 | Stewox | it's all okay |
| 02:52.42 | Tordy | what about valve |
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| 02:52.51 | Tordy | hi RaydenUni |
| 02:53.17 | Stewox | they want for all people to play it .... all PCs , but they don't fix the leaks and resource hogness ! |
| 02:53.34 | Stewox | ive did threads |
| 02:53.37 | Stewox | emails |
| 02:53.42 | Tordy | yea look how long it took them to fix SC1's cpu problem |
| 02:53.42 | Stewox | bug reports on crash |
| 02:53.44 | Stewox | no response |
| 02:53.48 | Tordy | like almost 10 years? |
| 02:54.06 | Tordy | SC1 was like using 100% cpu on 2007 laptops |
| 02:54.19 | Tordy | then they finally rolled out a patch to add cpu throttling |
| 02:54.27 | Tordy | and so much battery was saved |
| 02:54.34 | Tordy | couldve saved so much more if they rolled it out earlier |
| 02:55.02 | XenoX101 | lulz |
| 02:55.08 | XenoX101 | we in ur computaz, leechin ur batteriz |
| 02:55.14 | Tordy | hi XenoX101 |
| 02:55.19 | XenoX101 | hello |
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| 02:56.52 | alf | does anyone know HELLYA? |
| 02:57.14 | XenoX101 | HELLYA |
| 02:57.17 | XenoX101 | no, no I dont |
| 02:59.57 | RaydenUni | hi Tordy |
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| 03:16.19 | Tordy | hands down |
| 03:16.20 | Tordy | hands up? |
| 03:24.22 | Skizot | hands in my pants! |
| 03:25.45 | Skizot | Sixen |
| 03:25.47 | Skizot | wake up |
| 03:26.26 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXtkrnnLjwo |
| 03:28.53 | Tordy | Skizot what have you done! |
| 03:29.08 | Skizot | ? |
| 03:29.20 | Tordy | hi |
| 03:29.37 | Skizot | what has i done? |
| 03:29.43 | Skizot | besides make THE most awesome sidescroller yet? |
| 03:34.28 | Tordy | that's what you most certainly did |
| 03:42.03 | XenoX101 | ok so it seems missiles cant be used as targets for teleports |
| 03:42.06 | XenoX101 | g'damn |
| 03:42.12 | Tordy | what |
| 03:42.27 | XenoX101 | cant make a unit teleport to a missile's location |
| 03:43.35 | Skizot | my missles are actually units. |
| 03:43.40 | Skizot | it makes things easier. |
| 03:43.50 | XenoX101 | missiles are always units? |
| 03:43.55 | XenoX101 | you mean they are unit unit type? |
| 03:44.02 | Skizot | no i mean like unit unit,..yeah |
| 03:44.37 | XenoX101 | mm, well I'm doing this with data |
| 03:44.45 | Skizot | so if i WANTED... i could make homing missile rather easily. |
| 03:44.48 | XenoX101 | so I have to launch a missile |
| 03:45.07 | Skizot | my map has NO data crap other than renaming and removing collisions and such |
| 03:45.09 | XenoX101 | I'm thinking of creating a dummy invisible unit under my target search |
| 03:45.13 | XenoX101 | then using that as a teleport target |
| 03:45.23 | Skizot | all triggers baybe. |
| 03:45.40 | XenoX101 | data is faster though |
| 03:45.48 | Skizot | it may be. |
| 03:45.56 | Skizot | but it doesn't do what i want it to do. |
| 03:46.09 | XenoX101 | I'm sure you could incorporate data pretty well |
| 03:46.14 | Skizot | and to do a sidescrolling UI CLICK based firing system. |
| 03:46.27 | XenoX101 | it doesn't have to be the meats & guts |
| 03:46.33 | Skizot | instead of the freaking world based click system (which blows by the way) |
| 03:46.57 | Skizot | the rest of my code is regions, and cinematics |
| 03:48.02 | Skizot | I wish i knew a good sound guy who can mimic the voices of starcraft units. |
| 03:48.37 | Skizot | so i could have actual voiceover in my cinematics. |
| 04:01.38 | thekill | guys |
| 04:01.45 | thekill | any1 know about hero and item regen |
| 04:01.50 | thekill | because my hero dies |
| 04:01.55 | thekill | his items dont regenerate |
| 04:02.44 | Skizot | DIE TROLL DIE |
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| 04:05.05 | Demalii | ~seen currydevil |
| 04:05.11 | purl | currydevil <Currydevil@75-142-21-134.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 19d 19h 36m 53s ago, saying: 'Hel, I think you should fix my missile.'. |
| 04:06.58 | Tordy | underclock! |
| 04:15.33 | Vail | XenoX101 what effect are you trying to do with the teleport? |
| 04:19.49 | Sixen | Skizot: Looks sick :D |
| 04:35.38 | Agouti | Tordy: have you cleaned the lappy heatsink out? |
| 04:35.49 | Agouti | ~whois sixen |
| 04:35.49 | purl | well, sixen is a chat gem? |
| 04:35.56 | Agouti | hmm, interesting |
| 04:36.34 | Sixen | siiick |
| 04:36.35 | Sixen | :D |
| 04:37.07 | Agouti | oh, sixen, you might know this: Any way in the DE of killing a unit when it reaches the edge of the map? |
| 04:37.48 | Agouti | or alternatively, extending the deadzone at the edge of the map? |
| 04:40.10 | Sixen | hmmm |
| 04:40.27 | Sixen | I don't think you can extend the playable area after the map is created |
| 04:40.37 | XenoX101 | Vail, its a unit I want to teleport |
| 04:40.46 | Sixen | so you'll need to do a kill-zone through DE/TE. I'd ask ProzaicMuze about the DE, i'm not exactly sure. |
| 04:40.59 | Sixen | I can do it SUPER easy with triggers though :D |
| 04:41.20 | Vail | i see |
| 04:44.45 | Agouti | yeah, triggers are always easy |
| 04:44.52 | Agouti | but I feel slightly dirty :( |
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| 04:47.47 | Vail | nice i have my teleport group ability working |
| 04:49.24 | Skittles | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:49.27 | Vail | wasnt there some one trying to create a scroll of town portal ability in data.. |
| 04:49.36 | Agouti | yes, and I got it |
| 04:49.45 | Vail | how? |
| 04:49.50 | Agouti | magic :3 |
| 04:49.58 | Vail | triggers or data? |
| 04:49.59 | Agouti | in all seriousness though |
| 04:50.01 | Agouti | data |
| 04:50.15 | Vail | ah ok..im just wondering if its the same what i did |
| 04:50.18 | Agouti | let me just check, so I don't get it wrong |
| 04:51.38 | Agouti | I had a bit of extra stuff |
| 04:51.47 | Agouti | like it had to apply an actor to both unit and target |
| 04:51.50 | Agouti | then channel |
| 04:51.59 | Agouti | then tele and apply a second behaviour to uni |
| 04:52.03 | Agouti | unit* |
| 04:52.27 | Vail | like Mass Recall sorta? |
| 04:52.36 | Agouti | yeah |
| 04:52.43 | Vail | i see |
| 04:52.55 | Agouti | I could list out what I did if you wanted |
| 04:53.08 | Agouti | but the main trick was using markers to keep track of the target |
| 04:53.14 | Agouti | to avoid needing to do 2 searches |
| 04:53.19 | Vail | nothanks i have a somewhat easier method.. |
| 04:53.38 | Vail | well its just the guts of one it need some tweaks |
| 04:56.38 | Vail | well i might |
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| 04:59.25 | prodiG | hey, i'm trying to find how to edit doodads in teh data editor |
| 04:59.30 | prodiG | but i can't find the button anywhere |
| 05:03.53 | Vail | looks like i was wrong |
| 05:04.03 | Vail | drat eh well |
| 05:04.20 | Vail | any way night |
| 05:12.08 | Jiiks | i'm starting to hate making quests =/ |
| 05:13.04 | Skizot | you will |
| 05:14.35 | Skizot | i remember my beta rpg |
| 05:14.49 | Skizot | was really just a test map that had a bunch of stuff incororated. |
| 05:14.54 | Skittles | my PoC was a dud Xd |
| 05:14.55 | Skizot | but it was fun. |
| 05:15.05 | Skizot | had one quest that gave you a zergling mount. |
| 05:15.27 | Skittles | With face huggers, the ling mounts you. |
| 05:15.58 | Skizot | i could PROBABLY put a face hugger on a ling skeleton. |
| 05:16.05 | Jiiks | i love making most stuff in my rpg but quests.... :S |
| 05:16.21 | Skizot | i even had a raid boss! |
| 05:17.51 | Skittles | Just make a quest generator then jiiks :p |
| 05:18.10 | Skittles | powered by foreign orphans |
| 05:18.19 | Jiiks | hmm sounds good |
| 05:19.54 | Jiiks | lol i forgot to add turn trigger off |
| 05:20.14 | Xapti | how much space does your guys' loading screen take up |
| 05:20.18 | Skizot | my old map SHOULD be on sc2m |
| 05:20.19 | Jiiks | spawns 3 marines now there's ~500marines |
| 05:21.03 | Xapti | ? |
| 05:22.08 | Jiiks | :P http://oi53.tinypic.com/1zg7p0n.jpg |
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| 05:24.05 | Xapti | anyone? |
| 05:24.27 | Jiiks | 200kbs |
| 05:27.05 | Xapti | compressed? |
| 05:27.26 | Agouti | about that |
| 05:27.32 | Agouti | it's a 1920x jpeg |
| 05:27.39 | XenoX101 | Does anyone know if I can get a missile to bounce back to the caster? |
| 05:27.41 | Agouti | don't use tga, it will be huge |
| 05:27.42 | XenoX101 | in data? |
| 05:27.51 | Agouti | you can do heaps of stuff |
| 05:27.55 | Agouti | more specific? |
| 05:28.04 | XenoX101 | want to boomerang a unit back to the caster |
| 05:28.13 | XenoX101 | so as soon as it hits, it should come back |
| 05:28.17 | Agouti | short answer, yes |
| 05:28.22 | Xapti | mine's 460kb compressed, like 843 uncompressed, and it's only 1600x1080 |
| 05:28.38 | Xapti | using DDS |
| 05:28.41 | Skittles | agouti minecraft? =D |
| 05:28.44 | Agouti | xen you should know who to ask silly missle stuff, lol |
| 05:28.48 | Agouti | yeah I'm in right now |
| 05:28.54 | Skittles | oh Xd |
| 05:28.59 | Agouti | cows everywhere :x |
| 05:29.06 | XenoX101 | who's that Agouti ;p |
| 05:29.09 | Skittles | no invite for ur good friend? XD |
| 05:29.16 | Xapti | chose the best compression i could get which was DXT1 |
| 05:29.27 | Agouti | I think I got the trap working |
| 05:29.35 | Agouti | xapti: you can use jpegs |
| 05:29.52 | Skittles | we'll c about that |
| 05:30.05 | Jiiks | Xapti my current one is 1680x1200 jpg 234kbs compressed |
| 05:30.07 | Xapti | I tried using a jpeg, but it didn't seem to work |
| 05:30.24 | Agouti | rename it to .tga inside the arvhice |
| 05:30.28 | Agouti | *archive |
| 05:30.28 | Xapti | I did that |
| 05:30.36 | Xapti | when i renamed it the image broke |
| 05:30.37 | Agouti | works fine for me, /shrug |
| 05:30.41 | Agouti | it won't work inside the editor |
| 05:30.49 | Xapti | oh |
| 05:30.50 | Agouti | but it will work in sc2 |
| 05:32.11 | Xapti | jpg didn't compress though |
| 05:32.22 | Xapti | went from 472 to 468 |
| 05:32.37 | Xapti | so when compression's factored in JPG is even worse |
| 05:32.46 | Xapti | unless I increase the compression of the jpg |
| 05:33.17 | Xapti | which i can't do either |
| 05:33.25 | Xapti | without ruining the quality of the JPG even more |
| 05:33.33 | Xapti | because it's already a jpg |
| 05:34.18 | Jiiks | save it in 24bit |
| 05:34.52 | Xapti | re-savnig JPG at all will lower quality |
| 05:34.54 | Jiiks | your 500kb 32bit image is ~250kb 24bit |
| 05:36.00 | Xapti | there is no choice to change color depth |
| 05:36.12 | Jiiks | what software? |
| 05:36.32 | Xapti | have to lower quality to 80 to get to 20 |
| 05:36.36 | Xapti | 208 |
| 05:36.49 | Xapti | which isn't too bad though, some programs 8/10 or 80 is default |
| 05:36.55 | Agouti | you don't want to lower the quality |
| 05:36.57 | Agouti | just the bit depth |
| 05:37.06 | Xapti | agouti jpgs always lower quality |
| 05:37.12 | Agouti | yes |
| 05:37.14 | Agouti | I realise this |
| 05:37.16 | Xapti | whether it's 95% or 70% |
| 05:37.17 | Agouti | what I said was |
| 05:37.28 | Agouti | don't lower the quality on the compressions algorithm to save space |
| 05:37.35 | Agouti | lower the bit depth |
| 05:37.42 | Xapti | i know that's what your saying |
| 05:37.58 | Xapti | but i bet you don't save your JPGs as 100% |
| 05:38.06 | Xapti | hell you prbably don't even save them as 95% |
| 05:38.30 | Agouti | nope |
| 05:38.31 | Xapti | the fact that you're telling me NOT to lower quality from 95% is my issue |
| 05:38.34 | Agouti | it's only a loading screen |
| 05:38.40 | Agouti | idc if there are some artifacts |
| 05:38.49 | Agouti | 70 or 80 is fine |
| 05:38.52 | Xapti | exactrly, so why are yuo telling me NOT to lower the quality |
| 05:39.05 | Agouti | past 70 or 80... |
| 05:39.14 | Agouti | I assumed you were already using a reasonable one |
| 05:39.24 | Agouti | but 20 will look horrid |
| 05:39.33 | Xapti | I said I had to lower teh quality to 80% to get 208 |
| 05:39.48 | Xapti | that is below the ~250kb you talked about |
| 05:39.50 | Agouti | aah, you made a typo |
| 05:39.52 | Agouti | which I then misread |
| 05:41.52 | Xapti | man blizzard's so annoying being wasteful with space, and then giving us small map limits |
| 05:42.30 | Xapti | if they want to give us small limits, they should ensure that their game runs effectively off high compression or low quality media |
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| 05:45.44 | Jiiks | i just made my image from 846kb to 79kb with no quality loss really |
| 05:46.05 | Xapti | you using jpg? |
| 05:46.10 | Jiiks | yep |
| 05:46.38 | Xapti | probably a pretty slacky eye to say no quality loss |
| 05:46.59 | Jiiks | source file was jpg i can sed you both files and you can compare them if you want |
| 05:47.03 | Jiiks | send* |
| 05:48.09 | Jiiks | ofcourse if it's really detailed pic there's a lot quality loss |
| 05:48.30 | thekill | hey |
| 05:48.38 | thekill | in my map the ai always attacks eachother |
| 05:48.52 | thekill | how do i make the girl stop saying "our allies are under attack" |
| 05:49.02 | thekill | its annoying as hell maybe buildings but not units |
| 05:49.10 | thekill | do u know? |
| 05:50.15 | Xapti | alerts |
| 05:50.19 | Xapti | data editor |
| 05:52.11 | XenoX101 | zzz why isnt this workiiing |
| 05:53.48 | thekill | xapti cant i just do something in the unit |
| 05:54.02 | Jiiks | go to data editor and mute allyunderattack for every race? |
| 05:55.16 | Xapti | thehell i did not tell you to "do something in the unit" |
| 05:55.22 | Xapti | *thekill |
| 05:56.08 | Xapti | Go into the data editor, and select alerts for the data type |
| 05:57.35 | thekill | then what |
| 05:57.58 | Jiiks | AttackUnitAlly-sound-(none) |
| 05:58.13 | XenoX101 | hey... as anyone used the data editor at all to try and find sc2 exploits? |
| 05:58.20 | XenoX101 | since it does kind of spell out the mechanics of everything |
| 05:58.40 | thekill | aight |
| 05:58.41 | thekill | got it |
| 05:58.54 | thekill | thx |
| 06:00.22 | Xapti | Anyone know how to display custom loading screen help messages (tips)? I set them but they still aren't appearing (same issue: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/10521-custom-help-box/) |
| 06:01.45 | Xapti | ooh, i think i know what the problem is, and if it is, it's stupid |
| 06:01.59 | Xapti | have to change loading screen type to custom instead of melee |
| 06:02.25 | Xapti | can someone post that info? I either dont' have an ccount or forgot my info (i'll probably sign up again soon) |
| 06:06.01 | Xapti | doesn't make sense though, because if you change it to custom, you have to type in manually what you want. I guess you can use a link though, but it isn't straightforward how to do that. |
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| 06:13.14 | XenoX101 | ok so fantastically blizzard has decided that the "impact effect" of a missile does not occur on the unit it impacts with, but the missile itself -.- |
| 06:13.51 | XenoX101 | why anyone would want to cast an effect on the missile itself just before it dies is beyond me |
| 06:14.04 | XenoX101 | but there ya go |
| 06:15.16 | Xapti | well it doesn't apply the effect to target the missile, so you might be using the wrong word, tat or misunderstand something |
| 06:15.48 | Xapti | the target that occurs on impact effect is customizable, perhaps it is set wrong |
| 06:16.04 | XenoX101 | "target unit"? |
| 06:16.08 | Xapti | i suppose it coudl be set to the missile |
| 06:16.36 | XenoX101 | the impact location was the default, target unit |
| 06:16.44 | XenoX101 | I added a damage effect to the impact effect |
| 06:16.51 | XenoX101 | no dice |
| 06:19.18 | XenoX101 | ok, so perhaps it is instead an extremely fussy bitch |
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| 06:20.06 | Rodrigo | NEXUS WORD WARS 3x3 Remake 3. 1 player left! |
| 06:20.14 | Rodrigo | we need one more player for 3x3 |
| 06:20.16 | Rodrigo | anyone? |
| 06:20.31 | XenoX101 | hell no |
| 06:20.40 | Xapti | not a fan of tugs |
| 06:20.41 | XenoX101 | I have enough word wars as it is ;p |
| 06:20.53 | Xapti | i guess i can try it though |
| 06:21.17 | Rodrigo | ok |
| 06:21.18 | Rodrigo | add me now |
| 06:21.22 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo#881 |
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| 06:41.54 | XenoX101 | ack |
| 06:42.05 | XenoX101 | I managed to get the unit buffed and my little missle to return back to the caster |
| 06:42.12 | XenoX101 | and I even managed to teleport the unit |
| 06:42.18 | XenoX101 | but he is teleporting -away- from my missile >< |
| 06:43.31 | XenoX101 | teleport the buffed unit* |
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| 06:47.25 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 06:47.37 | XenoX101 | maybe I can make the behaviour on the unit... get him to suck himself towards the missile |
| 06:49.27 | Xapti | can you not change the angle of the direction |
| 06:49.31 | Xapti | or make the number negative? |
| 06:49.48 | XenoX101 | tried changing the angle, it doesnt seem to work |
| 06:50.24 | XenoX101 | but in all honesty I think it was targetting the wrong unit |
| 06:50.42 | XenoX101 | since it would have been going towards the missile if it was right |
| 07:05.04 | XenoX101 | ahh, I think I know what the problem was! |
| 07:05.14 | XenoX101 | my dummy unit was set to 'untargetable' |
| 07:08.24 | XenoX101 | you know I have this terrible sense in my head that blizzard's next patch will ruin some of my spells |
| 07:18.44 | Vesuvius | xenox, i expect that impact effect thing is useful if you want to do something like a search area and apply some sort of effect to units around it |
| 07:25.27 | prodiG | does anyone know why when i try to export map image it shows all of my terrain as black? |
| 07:25.50 | prodiG | (i have the terrain box checked :P) |
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| 07:48.45 | Skittles | hmm |
| 07:53.44 | Jiiks | f'in quests.... |
| 07:56.37 | Skittles | lol |
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| 08:19.57 | Xapti | dman this freaking actor event BS |
| 08:20.08 | Xapti | so dman complicated and confusing an unintuitive |
| 08:21.00 | Cintiq | dman |
| 08:27.14 | Mephs | dman |
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| 08:42.29 | Agouti | lol xapti |
| 08:42.33 | Agouti | what are you trying to do |
| 08:42.56 | Xapti | I want to make a unit that uses a dead body model |
| 08:43.23 | Xapti | thing is death models are animations, so it also needs to be paused before the model disappears |
| 08:44.05 | Xapti | I can't figure how to do it |
| 08:46.01 | Agouti | hmmm |
| 08:52.54 | Skittles | yeah i had trouble with it too |
| 08:52.58 | Skittles | had a friend who knew how tho |
| 08:53.08 | Xapti | when I set x actor's model to death animation and create a unit, it wouldn't animate the death (or anything), it would just run the normal standing frame (assume it's the first frame of the death animation) |
| 08:53.10 | Skittles | he used galaxy tho |
| 08:53.22 | Xapti | well galaxy not too different usuall |
| 08:53.36 | Skittles | yeah |
| 08:53.36 | Xapti | i'm going to sleep now if you find something send in a query |
| 08:53.50 | Skittles | but i think he said he edited the map files directly or something |
| 08:53.53 | Skittles | k |
| 08:53.59 | Skittles | ima go to bed too |
| 08:54.01 | Skittles | 3 am |
| 08:54.02 | Skittles | ttyl. |
| 08:54.13 | Xapti | later |
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| 09:49.04 | Agouti | xapti, do you know how Learn abilities work with heroes? |
| 09:49.36 | Agouti | for multi-level abilities, you just attach each effect to the ability in order that they are learned, then set the ability in the Learn, correct? |
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| 10:12.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~IceChat7@adsl-ull-82-164.47-151.net24.it) |
| 10:12.31 | Bibendus | omg! |
| 10:13.07 | Jiiks | !gmo |
| 10:13.26 | Bibendus | ! ! ! |
| 10:13.42 | SC2NappingKitten | Iglo! |
| 10:13.47 | SC2NappingKitten | meows |
| 10:14.04 | Bibendus | ! |
| 10:14.10 | Bibendus | helral |
| 10:14.12 | Bibendus | we are ready |
| 10:14.21 | SC2MapsterKitten | for testing? |
| 10:14.24 | Bibendus | the plan for the world conquering is ready |
| 10:14.24 | Bibendus | :D |
| 10:14.33 | SC2MapsterKitten | ahhh :) |
| 10:14.36 | SC2MapsterKitten | *narf* |
| 10:14.40 | Bibendus | xD |
| 10:14.52 | Bibendus | btw and ready for video |
| 10:15.38 | SC2MapsterKitten | I hope to get my quest gen finished today. |
| 10:16.03 | Bibendus | btw |
| 10:16.09 | Bibendus | sixen did the dirty job :O |
| 10:16.16 | Bibendus | he published a news :O |
| 10:16.17 | SC2MapsterKitten | O.o which one? |
| 10:16.19 | SC2MapsterKitten | ah |
| 10:16.23 | Bibendus | holy shitz |
| 10:16.26 | Bibendus | the world is ending |
| 10:17.00 | SC2MapsterKitten | hehehe I've already played the map he newsed ;p |
| 10:17.15 | Bibendus | i think |
| 10:17.18 | Bibendus | they are already queued |
| 10:17.21 | Bibendus | and a bit old as news |
| 10:17.22 | Bibendus | .D |
| 10:18.00 | SC2MapsterKitten | I helped skiz fix some bugs in that map ;p |
| 10:18.59 | XenoX101 | bibendus! |
| 10:19.05 | Bibendus | wot |
| 10:19.13 | XenoX101 | nothing, hi :) |
| 10:19.18 | Bibendus | hi :P |
| 10:19.28 | XenoX101 | how goes the dungeon keeper map |
| 10:19.53 | Bibendus | video incoming today or tomorrow |
| 10:19.56 | Bibendus | but first i need progammer :D |
| 10:26.07 | XenoX101 | I've temporarily gaven up on making a pudge-hook in SC2 using DE |
| 10:26.35 | Agouti | hah! |
| 10:26.40 | Agouti | bets he could do it |
| 10:26.43 | Agouti | ^___^ |
| 10:26.56 | XenoX101 | go for your life |
| 10:27.00 | Agouti | nty |
| 10:27.15 | Agouti | if I don't try I can remain convinced |
| 10:27.17 | Agouti | that if I did |
| 10:27.19 | Agouti | I could |
| 10:27.24 | Agouti | :P |
| 10:27.39 | Agouti | how far did you get? |
| 10:27.59 | XenoX101 | oh come on, its only 14 effects, 5 behaviours and 2 validators |
| 10:28.15 | Agouti | and 6 actors? |
| 10:28.20 | XenoX101 | not sure how many acotrs |
| 10:28.22 | XenoX101 | actors* |
| 10:28.27 | XenoX101 | I actually got it working initially, only I was using the 'impact effect' of the shoot missile |
| 10:28.29 | Agouti | about that many I would bet lol |
| 10:28.37 | XenoX101 | which meant that it stopped where you targeted |
| 10:28.46 | Agouti | I would have started with a spinecrawler |
| 10:28.47 | Bibendus | omg |
| 10:28.50 | Agouti | and worked from there |
| 10:28.50 | Bibendus | big rooms are laggy |
| 10:28.56 | Bibendus | with my laptop :| |
| 10:29.11 | Agouti | then changed the guidance |
| 10:29.12 | XenoX101 | it was only when I decided 'lets make this like my fireball!' that all hell broke loose |
| 10:29.17 | Agouti | so it was Throw |
| 10:30.14 | Agouti | the first big problem would be getting the second phase of the mover to activate early if it hits something |
| 10:30.27 | XenoX101 | if you wanna do it that way, yes |
| 10:30.41 | Agouti | seems like the most robust way to me |
| 10:30.54 | Agouti | why, how did you do it? |
| 10:31.06 | XenoX101 | create another missile on impact |
| 10:31.09 | XenoX101 | back to the caster |
| 10:31.25 | Agouti | ugh... that sounds bug prone |
| 10:31.40 | XenoX101 | my lovely search area to find the caster works |
| 10:31.43 | XenoX101 | with one small problem |
| 10:31.49 | XenoX101 | the missile keeps going in its original direction -.- |
| 10:31.55 | XenoX101 | how, I'm not sure |
| 10:32.04 | Agouti | er, couldn't you use markers instead of a search? |
| 10:32.17 | XenoX101 | markers aren't for targeting |
| 10:32.20 | Agouti | and/or Source |
| 10:32.38 | XenoX101 | or at least, I haven't got them to work for targeting |
| 10:33.07 | XenoX101 | and the behaviour on the missile, works on a seperate layer to the missile being launched |
| 10:33.45 | XenoX101 | so you can't just go "shoot missile: caster" |
| 10:33.47 | Agouti | the idea, in my understanding, is you can force the Casting Unit or whatever to a particular unit in the ability chain |
| 10:33.55 | XenoX101 | yes |
| 10:34.09 | XenoX101 | that is what I just mentioned |
| 10:34.25 | XenoX101 | you can't do this using a seperate behaviour on the missile because it doesn't relate the two |
| 10:34.29 | Agouti | sorry, I was talking to someone IRL as I was typing |
| 10:34.34 | Agouti | lol |
| 10:34.40 | Agouti | wasn't watching the screen |
| 10:34.45 | XenoX101 | mm |
| 10:35.18 | Agouti | I mean, ok, if you started with a SC |
| 10:35.34 | Agouti | it would be pretty trivial to make it pull the unit back instead of damaging |
| 10:35.49 | Agouti | then it wouldn't be too hard to make it point targeted, with a search |
| 10:36.00 | XenoX101 | pull the unit back?? |
| 10:36.12 | Agouti | with a Force or w/e |
| 10:36.13 | XenoX101 | how would that be trivial |
| 10:36.42 | Agouti | er, flag as uncommandable and set unit position? |
| 10:37.07 | Agouti | well ok, not trivial, the effect itself would still need to be made |
| 10:37.10 | Agouti | what I meant was |
| 10:37.24 | Agouti | it would be trivial to change the damage effect to another effect |
| 10:37.35 | Stewox | hi |
| 10:37.38 | Agouti | which would be your move effect, which you have to make regardless |
| 10:37.59 | Agouti | hello stewox, please refrain from complaining about sc2 or mentioning your computer, thankyou |
| 10:38.45 | Stewox | those were 2 separate things |
| 10:38.57 | XenoX101 | moving the unit with a missile is a painful experience |
| 10:38.58 | Agouti | regardless |
| 10:39.02 | Agouti | oh? |
| 10:39.10 | XenoX101 | you can't use the missile as a destination |
| 10:39.18 | Stewox | for once , i only pass and agree what i see elsewhere , i didn't started |
| 10:39.25 | Stewox | the forum is full of complains |
| 10:39.33 | Agouti | stewox, every single time, without fail, you end up going on about it |
| 10:39.36 | Agouti | please, just don't |
| 10:39.41 | XenoX101 | I had to make a dummy unit that spawns underneath the missile |
| 10:40.01 | XenoX101 | and sucks units around it that are 'targeted' inward |
| 10:40.13 | Agouti | hmmm |
| 10:40.20 | XenoX101 | its not as simple as it perhaps should be |
| 10:40.36 | Agouti | mmm |
| 10:40.46 | Agouti | it seems as though it should be |
| 10:40.57 | XenoX101 | my ability would work once again though I believe, if I could get this damn missile to aim at the caster again |
| 10:41.02 | Stewox | and so does this picture tell you http://i.imgur.com/NSapO.jpg , it's just funny because it's true and you're reacting like a fanboy , we all love SC2 but blizz has to prove them self even more |
| 10:41.09 | XenoX101 | I don't know of any way to change move phases with effects |
| 10:41.10 | Agouti | STEWOX. |
| 10:41.11 | Agouti | DO |
| 10:41.12 | Agouti | NOT. |
| 10:41.22 | Agouti | nobody here wants to hear your endless rant. |
| 10:41.27 | Agouti | I specifically told you not to |
| 10:41.30 | Agouti | and yet you do anyway |
| 10:41.35 | XenoX101 | ignore him |
| 10:42.04 | Stewox | i don't rant at anybody , i rant at you because youre reacting to it , like a 14 old |
| 10:42.15 | Agouti | Take a hint son. |
| 10:42.21 | Agouti | and stfu. |
| 10:43.37 | Agouti | hmm, you can't use actor events ? |
| 10:43.59 | Agouti | on the actor which controls the missile? |
| 10:44.53 | XenoX101 | I don't believe you can move a unit using an actor |
| 10:45.11 | Agouti | oh, I was thinking of something else again |
| 10:45.12 | Agouti | sorry |
| 10:45.22 | Agouti | how to change motion phases |
| 10:47.21 | XenoX101 | the only thing I can think of is in the mover itself |
| 10:47.50 | XenoX101 | but the 'arrival types' all seem to either force an impact on target or not allow any impact at all |
| 10:48.05 | Agouti | yeah, it wouldn't be an arrival type, I don't think |
| 10:48.41 | Agouti | I would worry about that second to getting the hook itself workign though |
| 10:49.43 | Agouti | I mean ok |
| 10:49.45 | XenoX101 | ? |
| 10:49.50 | XenoX101 | the hook is entirely dependant on the missile |
| 10:50.02 | Agouti | I |
| 10:50.02 | XenoX101 | at least in my framework |
| 10:50.08 | Agouti | I'm starting with a spinecrawler |
| 10:50.15 | Agouti | and trying to get it to pull a unit back |
| 10:50.19 | Agouti | instead of dealing damage |
| 10:50.24 | XenoX101 | if you could make me a pudge hook I'd be happy |
| 10:50.28 | Agouti | but what I was going to say was |
| 10:50.30 | XenoX101 | but I warn you, there be dragons |
| 10:50.34 | Agouti | :o |
| 10:50.38 | Agouti | I like dragons :3 |
| 10:50.59 | XenoX101 | I can send you mine |
| 10:51.03 | XenoX101 | if you'd like to get an idea |
| 10:51.10 | XenoX101 | it principally works |
| 10:51.13 | Agouti | anyway... you don't really need to make the unit be pulled towards the hook itself |
| 10:51.15 | XenoX101 | just not in practice -.- |
| 10:51.30 | XenoX101 | but what will it be pulled towards then? |
| 10:51.31 | Agouti | you know what the return speed of the missile is |
| 10:51.35 | XenoX101 | yeah but |
| 10:51.38 | Agouti | the casting unit? |
| 10:51.43 | XenoX101 | that is iffy |
| 10:51.51 | Agouti | the missile will return towards the caster at X speed |
| 10:51.58 | Agouti | so why not just make the unit do the same thing? |
| 10:52.11 | Agouti | a little bit dirty but if it works... |
| 10:52.14 | XenoX101 | if the missile somehow gets away from the unit it will be messy |
| 10:52.24 | Agouti | though I don't see why a missile unit can't be treated like any other unit |
| 10:52.29 | Agouti | ok, what about this: |
| 10:52.39 | Agouti | the missile applies a persistant to the unit |
| 10:52.44 | Agouti | which has a periodic search |
| 10:52.50 | Agouti | which looks for a missile of the right type |
| 10:52.58 | Agouti | then applies a force or teleport towards it? |
| 10:53.26 | XenoX101 | that was my second way of doing it, but I managed to do it through the missile dummy unit first |
| 10:53.27 | Agouti | you could be more glitch-proof with validators or w/e making sure the missile belongs to the right player |
| 10:53.41 | XenoX101 | the problem is not the attraction |
| 10:53.46 | XenoX101 | simply the damn missile going the wrong way |
| 10:53.59 | Agouti | try wholesale lifting the effect, minus the missile spawn, and dropping it on a spinecrawler |
| 10:54.25 | Agouti | if the problem is merely getting a missile to return |
| 10:54.28 | XenoX101 | that is going to cause me more grief than using it as it is now |
| 10:54.35 | Agouti | why is that? |
| 10:54.48 | Agouti | or don't I want to know |
| 10:54.49 | XenoX101 | because the spinecrawler works completely differently |
| 10:55.07 | Agouti | you could always just email it to me ;) |
| 10:55.17 | Agouti | I wouldn't mind seeing how you did it anyway lol |
| 10:55.19 | XenoX101 | sec |
| 10:55.53 | Agouti | I'm feeling vaguely annoyed at how constrictive Learn is |
| 10:55.54 | XenoX101 | let me just load an earlier one, most recent is glitched up |
| 10:56.02 | Agouti | you have to build the abilities in a very specific way |
| 10:56.09 | XenoX101 | how so |
| 10:56.22 | Agouti | from what I can see, you have to have all the levels of the ability |
| 10:56.31 | Agouti | arranged as an effect array on the ability itself |
| 10:56.59 | XenoX101 | makes sense |
| 10:57.10 | Agouti | it doesn't stop you doing anything, it just forces you do it that way |
| 10:57.26 | Agouti | I just wanted to do something in a more fancy way :( |
| 10:58.12 | XenoX101 | damn I must've spent a good few hours on this ability |
| 10:58.43 | Agouti | I spend a good few hours on most of my abilities, lol |
| 10:58.54 | Agouti | half the problem is #sc2mapster though :S |
| 10:58.56 | Bibendus | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 10:59.02 | XenoX101 | true ;p |
| 11:00.48 | XenoX101 | ok looks like I'll have to fix my mistake, must've auto-saved between problems -.- |
| 11:00.55 | XenoX101 | gimme a sec |
| 11:01.03 | Agouti | NO |
| 11:01.06 | Agouti | 10 |
| 11:01.07 | Agouti | 9 |
| 11:01.08 | Agouti | 8 |
| 11:01.09 | Agouti | 7 |
| 11:01.11 | Agouti | 6 |
| 11:01.12 | Agouti | 5 |
| 11:01.15 | XenoX101 | ;/ lol |
| 11:01.22 | Agouti | ;D |
| 11:02.24 | Agouti | btw |
| 11:02.25 | XenoX101 | this should actually be my hardest ability |
| 11:02.28 | XenoX101 | well, save for a few |
| 11:02.30 | XenoX101 | others |
| 11:02.31 | XenoX101 | not many |
| 11:02.33 | XenoX101 | though |
| 11:02.44 | Agouti | do you know what Transfered Ability is for, on effect - create unit? |
| 11:03.01 | Agouti | er |
| 11:03.07 | Agouti | Transferred Behaviour* |
| 11:03.22 | Agouti | is it just a behaviour that is applied to the unit when it is created? |
| 11:03.33 | XenoX101 | not sure |
| 11:03.45 | Agouti | one way to find out :D |
| 11:05.56 | XenoX101 | ok I'll send you the map now |
| 11:06.07 | XenoX101 | and I'll briefly outline the structure of the effect in the message |
| 11:06.16 | Agouti | please :) |
| 11:06.20 | XenoX101 | otherwise you'll 'what the fuck' when you see it |
| 11:07.13 | Agouti | lol |
| 11:10.53 | Agouti | oh... well, I feel silly now. You know how I said I wished missiles with Look Ahead/Clearance on would drop back down again after a cliff? |
| 11:10.58 | Agouti | Yeah, gravity > 0 |
| 11:11.04 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 11:11.58 | Agouti | Transferred Behaviour appears to do... pretty much nothing |
| 11:15.06 | Bibendus | i want progammer! |
| 11:15.06 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 46 minutes 10 seconds |
| 11:15.08 | Bibendus | or sixen! |
| 11:15.19 | Bibendus | sixen my luv are u here? |
| 11:15.33 | Bibendus | :( |
| 11:17.27 | Agouti | lol bib |
| 11:17.28 | Agouti | whats up? |
| 11:17.37 | Bibendus | need for vid news :D |
| 11:17.44 | Agouti | oh |
| 11:17.57 | Jiiks | there's no trigger for adding xp? |
| 11:17.58 | Agouti | I don't suppose you know what Transferred Behaviour does ;) |
| 11:18.03 | Bibendus | slaps Sixen with his third leg |
| 11:18.05 | Agouti | Jiiks: yes there is |
| 11:18.10 | Agouti | Modify Unit Properties |
| 11:18.30 | Bibendus | because |
| 11:18.38 | Bibendus | ~Bibendus |
| 11:18.39 | purl | you are, like, a man of many legs. |
| 11:18.55 | Jiiks | there's modify player properties but no unit properties |
| 11:18.57 | Agouti | I like your 4th the best |
| 11:19.07 | Bibendus | 4th what |
| 11:19.52 | Agouti | Jiiks: triggers have a search bo |
| 11:19.54 | Agouti | box* |
| 11:20.05 | Agouti | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:20.19 | Agouti | it's called Set Unit Property, my bad, but simply typing Property |
| 11:20.22 | XenoX101 | still writing up this structure lol |
| 11:20.22 | Agouti | or even Unit |
| 11:20.27 | Agouti | would have found it quickly |
| 11:20.56 | Jiiks | that's set i found that, but if i make it "set experience to 100" if the unit has 1000xp it then has 100 |
| 11:21.11 | Agouti | Jiiks, you know the answer to this |
| 11:21.17 | Agouti | what do you want to set the XP to? |
| 11:21.27 | Jiiks | i want to add xp as a quest reward |
| 11:21.27 | Agouti | spell it out for me |
| 11:21.31 | Agouti | so |
| 11:21.36 | Agouti | what is the actual figure? |
| 11:21.43 | Agouti | assume i know nothing |
| 11:22.07 | Agouti | if you had to, at a given point, come up with a specific number for the XP you wanted the unit to be |
| 11:22.10 | Agouti | how would you do that? |
| 11:22.24 | Jiiks | i would use that trigger |
| 11:22.29 | Agouti | no, I mean |
| 11:22.40 | Agouti | ok |
| 11:22.52 | Agouti | say the unit has currently got Y experience |
| 11:23.00 | Agouti | after this trigger has run, how much will it have? |
| 11:23.08 | Jiiks | the amound i set |
| 11:23.21 | Agouti | I mean, how much do you WANT it to have |
| 11:23.29 | Agouti | if it currently has Y |
| 11:23.38 | Agouti | before the trigger |
| 11:24.06 | Jiiks | Y+100 |
| 11:24.10 | Agouti | right |
| 11:24.17 | Agouti | so that is what you have to set the XP to |
| 11:24.22 | Agouti | how do you find Y? |
| 11:24.43 | Jiiks | by calling it |
| 11:24.52 | Agouti | Get Unit Property or whatever it is |
| 11:25.03 | Agouti | and then you add 100 via Arithmatic (Real) |
| 11:25.10 | Agouti | and set the unit XP to that |
| 11:25.21 | Agouti | see, I told you that you knew what to do ;) |
| 11:26.03 | Jiiks | but that's stupid =P |
| 11:26.14 | Agouti | howso? |
| 11:26.43 | Jiiks | well would be so much easier if there was a trigger "add property" |
| 11:26.47 | Agouti | I mean, sure, it's a little more involved to do, but it is exactly what the game would do if it gave you a "add" |
| 11:26.57 | Agouti | if you had a trigger which was "add to property" |
| 11:27.14 | Agouti | in the back end it would be look up the current value, add to it, then set it |
| 11:27.29 | Agouti | but sometimes you need to subtract |
| 11:27.39 | Agouti | so you would need a Subtract From Unit Property |
| 11:27.47 | Agouti | but what about multiplication? division? |
| 11:27.47 | XenoX101 | ok Agouti |
| 11:27.48 | XenoX101 | sorry in advance |
| 11:27.52 | Agouti | lols |
| 11:27.52 | XenoX101 | sent :p |
| 11:27.57 | Agouti | braces himself |
| 11:28.50 | XenoX101 | and as I said before, everything worked in its initial 'impact at target' state |
| 11:29.27 | XenoX101 | it was only when I changed the ability around to 'impact on unit hit' through the missile itself rather than the ability that it went aloof |
| 11:29.34 | Agouti | ooo text formating |
| 11:29.37 | Agouti | fancy |
| 11:29.49 | XenoX101 | yes, I used bold, lol |
| 11:30.35 | Agouti | it effectively highlights important sections of text |
| 11:30.37 | Agouti | @__@ |
| 11:31.09 | XenoX101 | it just highlights effects and behaviours ;p |
| 11:31.30 | Agouti | man I wish Transferred Behaviour did what I wanted it to D: |
| 11:31.36 | Agouti | hmph |
| 11:32.10 | Jiiks | ok it works now, thanks ;) |
| 11:32.19 | Agouti | np :) |
| 11:32.47 | Agouti | best to get used to doing stuff with Arithmatic functions |
| 11:32.58 | Agouti | it's slow, awkward and annoying if you stuff something up |
| 11:33.06 | Agouti | :( |
| 11:33.26 | Agouti | wait wait wait xen |
| 11:33.41 | Agouti | if transferred behaviour does what it sounds like |
| 11:33.58 | Agouti | couldn't you use that to transfer some behaviour between the first and second missile? |
| 11:34.11 | Agouti | would that be useful at all? |
| 11:34.33 | XenoX101 | no because they use two different behaviours |
| 11:34.44 | Agouti | a dummy behaviour |
| 11:34.45 | XenoX101 | thats why I needed to use two seperate missile units |
| 11:34.45 | Agouti | I meant |
| 11:34.55 | Agouti | an extra dummy one |
| 11:34.59 | XenoX101 | dont think so no |
| 11:35.00 | Agouti | idk |
| 11:35.02 | Agouti | just thinking |
| 11:35.37 | XenoX101 | it would be useful if I needed the units to be different |
| 11:35.58 | XenoX101 | since I would otherwise need to have 2 behaviours, 1 on each unit |
| 11:36.12 | XenoX101 | I could in that sense transfer a single behaviour between them instead |
| 11:36.13 | XenoX101 | but eh |
| 11:36.58 | XenoX101 | I also added some more eye candy to the map |
| 11:37.02 | XenoX101 | err, the spells and stuff |
| 11:38.11 | Agouti | the range indicator on the obelisk thing is wrong btw |
| 11:38.25 | XenoX101 | really? its perfect on mne |
| 11:38.59 | Agouti | a ways short for me |
| 11:40.23 | Agouti | xen: one use I could think of is a timed life thing |
| 11:40.30 | Agouti | for transf. beh. |
| 11:40.37 | XenoX101 | mm |
| 11:40.53 | XenoX101 | you could share a duration, true |
| 11:41.01 | XenoX101 | could you please screenshot the range inaccuracy? |
| 11:41.11 | Agouti | mmk |
| 11:41.13 | XenoX101 | cause its perfect on mine, or at least, as close as I can get it |
| 11:41.26 | XenoX101 | like, no more than 1/2 unit width wrong |
| 11:42.25 | Agouti | oooh |
| 11:42.28 | Agouti | actually |
| 11:42.44 | Agouti | it's that the obelisk gets a range boost if the wizard is being chased by a zergling |
| 11:42.45 | Agouti | HAH |
| 11:42.47 | Agouti | fix that one |
| 11:42.58 | Agouti | I know why it is though ^__^ |
| 11:43.26 | Agouti | you should have worked it out pretty quickly as well ;) |
| 11:45.34 | XenoX101 | I honestly don't know why that is |
| 11:45.50 | Agouti | it's because the obelisks range is larger than its vision range |
| 11:46.01 | XenoX101 | ah |
| 11:46.01 | Agouti | so normally it only fires when the units gets in vision range |
| 11:46.05 | Agouti | but if the zling is chasing |
| 11:46.13 | XenoX101 | I see |
| 11:46.20 | Agouti | at least, I assume so |
| 11:46.22 | Agouti | havne't checked |
| 11:46.25 | XenoX101 | yeah that must be it |
| 11:46.37 | Agouti | fixed your missile btw |
| 11:46.55 | Agouti | it's not actually dragging a unit |
| 11:47.00 | Agouti | but it's returning |
| 11:47.16 | XenoX101 | ah yeah |
| 11:47.18 | XenoX101 | I'll fix that |
| 11:47.24 | XenoX101 | how'd you get it working? |
| 11:48.02 | Agouti | the mover for the return phase was still a throw |
| 11:48.24 | Agouti | and the throw vector orientation must be relative to the caster unit |
| 11:48.38 | Agouti | so it was getting thrown away from the caster |
| 11:48.46 | Agouti | if you change it to Guidance it works |
| 11:49.01 | XenoX101 | I see |
| 11:49.07 | Bibendus | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 11:49.13 | Agouti | well, something is still broken somewhere |
| 11:49.17 | Agouti | cos it only works once |
| 11:49.27 | XenoX101 | oh? |
| 11:49.53 | Agouti | oh, right |
| 11:51.08 | Agouti | don't change your missile mover |
| 11:51.14 | Agouti | just change the mover the return uses |
| 11:51.36 | Agouti | or, rather, create a new one for it |
| 11:51.48 | XenoX101 | lol, hoola hoop |
| 11:51.57 | XenoX101 | gotta fix this |
| 11:52.04 | Agouti | mine isn't actually pulling the unit though |
| 11:52.12 | Agouti | o btw |
| 11:52.32 | Agouti | how did you get the grid under the construction model? |
| 11:52.40 | Agouti | spoes I could look for myself |
| 11:52.52 | XenoX101 | which? |
| 11:52.58 | XenoX101 | the obelisk? |
| 11:52.59 | Agouti | probe building the obelisk |
| 11:53.01 | Agouti | ya |
| 11:53.11 | XenoX101 | its just the footprint |
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| 11:53.21 | XenoX101 | pathing footprint - placement: |
| 11:53.23 | XenoX101 | footprint 6x6 |
| 11:53.41 | XenoX101 | there's two there, pathing footprint and pathing footprint - placement |
| 11:55.54 | Agouti | not sure I use any placement footprints |
| 11:56.48 | Agouti | oh, right |
| 11:56.54 | Agouti | there is a way |
| 11:57.07 | Agouti | to get the grid to show up if you don't have Show Builder Grid on |
| 12:01.44 | Agouti | which yours is doing |
| 12:01.46 | Agouti | why won't mine |
| 12:01.47 | Agouti | ARFG |
| 12:01.50 | Agouti | ARG**** |
| 12:02.18 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 12:02.49 | Agouti | what I've seen |
| 12:02.52 | Agouti | and really really want |
| 12:02.58 | Agouti | is it shows the grid under the model |
| 12:03.08 | Agouti | and a faded out circle around it as well |
| 12:06.21 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 12:06.36 | XenoX101 | this teleport isnt working as it once was |
| 12:08.21 | Agouti | you broke it! |
| 12:08.22 | Agouti | hah! |
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| 12:31.26 | Helral | hmmm testing an ability which I was ordering with a trigger.... I just forgot 1 thing.... |
| 12:31.39 | Agouti | cake? |
| 12:31.52 | Helral | to give the unit the ability :P |
| 12:32.05 | Agouti | oh, you need to do that now? |
| 12:32.12 | Agouti | did they change it in a patch or something |
| 12:32.32 | Helral | the unit needs the ability. it doesn't need to be on his commandcard though. |
| 12:33.07 | Agouti | whispers: pssst, sarcasm -.o |
| 12:33.22 | Helral | hard to notice in text ;p |
| 12:33.51 | Agouti | have to make it a challenge ^__^ |
| 12:34.57 | Helral | yay found a bug that needs fixing ;p |
| 12:35.16 | Helral | a chest got placed in a position that it blocks an entrance... which shouldn't happen. |
| 12:35.59 | Agouti | I am often blocked by chests |
| 12:38.33 | Agouti | :-/ |
| 12:38.35 | Agouti | that is dodge |
| 12:38.50 | Agouti | Apparently gravity screws up some missile movers |
| 12:38.59 | Agouti | makes them do slightly strange things |
| 12:44.07 | XenoX101 | makes sense though |
| 12:44.26 | Agouti | on my Throw movers |
| 12:44.40 | Agouti | I added gravity to make them descend again after cliffs |
| 12:44.53 | Agouti | but now cliffs just make them randomly speed up or slow down |
| 12:44.59 | Agouti | or jitter back and forwards |
| 12:45.15 | Agouti | despite that 2<speed<2 in the mover |
| 12:45.26 | Agouti | er, 2<=speed<=2 |
| 12:50.38 | Agouti | it would be neat if climbing for cliffs just slowed them down a bit, while they were climbing |
| 12:50.39 | Agouti | but |
| 12:56.19 | XenoX101 | hm, I have a bad habit of changing effect types |
| 12:56.27 | XenoX101 | causes all sorts of artifacts :( |
| 12:57.35 | Agouti | lol |
| 12:57.39 | Agouti | yeah |
| 12:57.43 | Agouti | that has fucked me up |
| 12:57.52 | Agouti | buggy bugs |
| 13:00.57 | XenoX101 | I'm worryingly changing all my 'based on''s to the most appropriate now ;x |
| 13:00.57 | Agouti | multi-shape regions are a pain to make :-/ |
| 13:01.03 | Agouti | unless I'm missing some shortcut |
| 13:01.11 | Agouti | lols |
| 13:05.14 | Agouti | WTB: 1x Search (Text Module) |
| 13:13.10 | XenoX101 | I think my problem is that I'm too hasty with DE |
| 13:13.17 | XenoX101 | I spend 10 minutes making an ability and 2 hours debugging it |
| 13:20.09 | silv_ | any reasons i shouldnt publish my melee map? |
| 13:21.17 | XenoX101 | err |
| 13:21.20 | XenoX101 | ?? |
| 13:22.14 | silv_ | is there any negative things if i publish my map? :P |
| 13:22.46 | XenoX101 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.59 | silv_ | like unable to join contests or something :P |
| 13:23.30 | XenoX101 | ah I wouldn't know about anything like that |
| 13:23.34 | XenoX101 | doubt it would be a problem though ;p |
| 13:27.49 | XenoX101 | does anyone know how I can shoot a beam to a point? |
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| 13:37.17 | Agouti | xen: pull apart the diamondback |
| 13:37.27 | Agouti | and with that, brb |
| 13:37.32 | XenoX101 | no it shoots to a target |
| 13:37.34 | XenoX101 | not to a point |
| 13:37.40 | Agouti | oh |
| 13:37.57 | Agouti | can't just substitute target unit for target point? |
| 13:38.08 | XenoX101 | Scope Target |
| 13:38.10 | XenoX101 | Scope ?? |
| 13:38.23 | Agouti | hmm |
| 13:38.40 | XenoX101 | its cool I'm taking a break from mapmaking for a bit |
| 13:38.46 | XenoX101 | giving me headaches litreally |
| 13:38.48 | XenoX101 | literally* |
| 13:38.51 | Agouti | mothership beams? |
| 13:38.59 | XenoX101 | ya thats something to look at |
| 13:38.59 | Agouti | oh wait |
| 13:39.04 | Agouti | colossus |
| 13:39.13 | XenoX101 | colossus uses a site |
| 13:39.19 | XenoX101 | but that might be the answer |
| 13:39.26 | Agouti | could be |
| 13:39.37 | XenoX101 | anyway |
| 13:39.39 | XenoX101 | gonna go play some sc2 |
| 13:39.45 | Agouti | dunno, haven't dealt with beams |
| 13:39.49 | Agouti | I like missiles :3 |
| 13:39.49 | XenoX101 | I think I'll go on hiatus for a bit on my map |
| 13:39.56 | Agouti | aw :( |
| 13:39.58 | XenoX101 | literally been spending the past |
| 13:40.02 | XenoX101 | erm |
| 13:40.03 | Agouti | o well glhf |
| 13:40.06 | XenoX101 | 30 hours odd or so |
| 13:40.11 | XenoX101 | off and on |
| 13:40.13 | XenoX101 | with sleep breaks |
| 13:40.14 | Agouti | I spent |
| 13:40.18 | Agouti | literally |
| 13:40.23 | Agouti | 12 hours+ a day on mine |
| 13:40.26 | Agouti | for a month or so |
| 13:40.27 | Agouti | lol |
| 13:40.30 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 13:40.33 | Agouti | then cut back to 7 or 8 |
| 13:40.35 | XenoX101 | I get frustrated easily |
| 13:40.38 | XenoX101 | so |
| 13:40.46 | Agouti | I get distracted easily >_> |
| 13:40.49 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 13:40.54 | XenoX101 | I don't cause I like mapmaking |
| 13:41.03 | XenoX101 | but doing it so much makes it more of a chore than a pastime |
| 13:41.07 | Agouti | I just switch units when I get frustrated |
| 13:41.10 | Agouti | works well |
| 13:41.11 | XenoX101 | past-time* |
| 13:41.21 | XenoX101 | ya I did that then ran into this problem lol |
| 13:41.21 | Agouti | yeah min was starting to turn into a real chore |
| 13:41.24 | Agouti | why I cut back |
| 13:41.29 | Agouti | didn't want to burn out |
| 13:41.30 | XenoX101 | cut back to 12 hours a day? lol] |
| 13:41.56 | Agouti | I'm used to uni + part time job |
| 13:42.09 | Agouti | and first couple of weeks after uni I didn't have any work |
| 13:42.17 | Agouti | exams and that meant I had to stop taking jobs |
| 13:42.18 | XenoX101 | ah yeah |
| 13:42.29 | Agouti | so I was used to just working on one thing or another from wake to sleep |
| 13:42.41 | XenoX101 | mm |
| 13:42.42 | Agouti | kinda workaholic >_> |
| 13:43.02 | Agouti | but yeah getting stuck on something is really annoying |
| 13:43.03 | XenoX101 | well seems I need more breaks than I plan for |
| 13:43.07 | XenoX101 | I'm spent :/ |
| 13:43.10 | Agouti | especially when it breaks your stride |
| 13:43.14 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 13:43.16 | Agouti | :( |
| 13:43.29 | Agouti | yeah gotta be careful of burning out |
| 13:43.44 | Agouti | if I wasn't on awful net I'd give you a game lol |
| 13:43.52 | XenoX101 | lol np :) |
| 13:43.58 | Agouti | but I'm slowly working through my achievs on NA |
| 13:44.06 | XenoX101 | heh |
| 13:44.09 | XenoX101 | I hate those things |
| 13:44.16 | Agouti | I nearly got like 2300 points on SEA lol |
| 13:44.26 | XenoX101 | yeah I'm up to like 2100 |
| 13:44.31 | XenoX101 | campaign gives a lot |
| 13:44.38 | Agouti | only missing a couple of maps on burtal |
| 13:44.43 | Agouti | like that one |
| 13:44.44 | Agouti | um |
| 13:44.48 | Agouti | supernova |
| 13:44.50 | Agouti | grrrr |
| 13:45.03 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 13:45.06 | XenoX101 | thats a hard one ya |
| 13:45.10 | Agouti | anway i'm off to have a shower and bed |
| 13:45.28 | Agouti | seeyas |
| 13:45.42 | XenoX101 | laters |
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| 14:32.21 | Ny | hello? |
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| 15:01.27 | Dekar | where are screenshots saved to? |
| 15:01.40 | Dekar | it should be @ my documents |
| 15:01.42 | Dekar | but they dont appear |
| 15:01.45 | Dekar | O_o |
| 15:01.56 | Dekar | the game hangs for a moment though |
| 15:03.16 | JManV|Work | my documents/starcraft 2/screenshots |
| 15:03.33 | JManV|Work | but if you moved your my documents folder, sc2 ignores that because it's stupid |
| 15:05.37 | Dekar | there it is not |
| 15:09.06 | Dekar | hmm, at least i can copy them in paint |
| 15:11.15 | Dekar | hmmmm |
| 15:15.48 | Dekar | oh! |
| 15:15.49 | Dekar | i found them |
| 15:16.12 | Dekar | C:\Users\Dekar\Documents\StarCraft II\Accounts\176221\2-S2-1-649496\Screenshots |
| 15:16.14 | Dekar | simple |
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| 16:36.10 | Stewox | yeah |
| 16:36.23 | Stewox | yeah |
| 16:36.28 | Stewox | the account data |
| 16:36.29 | Stewox | is |
| 16:36.30 | Bounty | I've been a bad boy |
| 16:36.39 | Bounty | I bumped one of my maps :( lol |
| 16:36.49 | Stewox | is a bit confusing since it's in the 4384348/294274 folders |
| 16:36.59 | Stewox | bounty hi! |
| 16:37.06 | Bounty | Morning Stewox |
| 16:37.12 | Bounty | So apprently |
| 16:37.13 | Stewox | good evening |
| 16:37.18 | Bounty | You can download a mouse recorder lol |
| 16:37.27 | Bounty | and just let it run all night |
| 16:37.31 | Bounty | bumping your maps |
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| 16:37.49 | Bounty | i feel kinda dirty now though |
| 16:37.51 | Bounty | >< |
| 16:38.00 | Bounty | i am interested to see if anyone plays it though |
| 16:38.02 | Bibendus | take a shower |
| 16:38.11 | Bounty | not that kind of dirty |
| 16:38.17 | Bibendus | stop masturbating them |
| 16:38.21 | Bibendus | then |
| 16:38.22 | Bounty | i DL'd a mouse recorder lol |
| 16:38.28 | Bounty | and let it run all night |
| 16:38.32 | Bibendus | to boost your map? |
| 16:38.35 | Bounty | now Battlefield Egypt is at like 111 games per hour |
| 16:38.38 | Bibendus | all do that |
| 16:38.43 | Bounty | well ive never done it |
| 16:38.47 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:38.52 | Bibendus | don't feel guilty |
| 16:38.56 | Bibendus | that can't be done |
| 16:38.59 | Bibendus | with 1.2 |
| 16:39.00 | Bibendus | :D |
| 16:39.05 | Stewox | merry xmas from AMD/ATI , the radeon HD6950 can be unlocked with bios to a full blown HD6970 , as techpowerup has a whole tutorial on it , for anyone that might be helped by this |
| 16:39.09 | Bounty | Anyone figure out how it works? |
| 16:39.12 | Bounty | the 1.2 system? |
| 16:39.21 | Bounty | Is it based on unique players |
| 16:39.26 | Bibendus | minutes |
| 16:39.29 | Bibendus | instead of number of games |
| 16:39.33 | Stewox | bounty did you read the thread ? |
| 16:39.35 | Bounty | So you could just create a game |
| 16:39.39 | Bounty | and let it run all night |
| 16:39.40 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:39.44 | Bibendus | aaaaaand |
| 16:39.46 | Bounty | what thread Stewox |
| 16:39.47 | Bibendus | it counts as shit |
| 16:39.49 | Bibendus | :D |
| 16:39.55 | Bounty | explain Bib |
| 16:40.07 | Bounty | how does it work? |
| 16:40.10 | Bibendus | now u can exit and join every 5 minutes |
| 16:40.21 | Bibendus | and u can get till 250 games a day alone |
| 16:40.44 | Bibendus | but consider that real players play more then 5 minutes |
| 16:40.57 | Bounty | yeah but |
| 16:41.01 | Bounty | say i have 14 players |
| 16:41.04 | Bounty | and we all play for 5 minutes |
| 16:41.09 | Bibendus | so your boost now is really effective |
| 16:41.19 | Bounty | so it would count as 70 minutesp layed? |
| 16:41.22 | Bibendus | if minutes count for each player |
| 16:41.24 | Bounty | with one game |
| 16:41.29 | Bounty | well tahts the thing |
| 16:41.30 | Bibendus | then your boost with 1.2 will just suck xD |
| 16:41.32 | Bounty | do we know? |
| 16:41.37 | Bounty | if its each player |
| 16:41.42 | Bibendus | i hope it is |
| 16:41.45 | Bounty | or the overall length of the game |
| 16:41.45 | Bounty | me to |
| 16:41.50 | Bounty | Underworld is 14 players |
| 16:41.55 | Bounty | and games can last awhile |
| 16:42.16 | Bounty | feel like giving me some advice Bib? :) |
| 16:42.28 | Bounty | All of my testers say diff things |
| 16:42.31 | Bounty | and nobody agrees |
| 16:42.49 | Bounty | Because i want to add a leveling system with creeps |
| 16:42.52 | Bibendus | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/10/476/e8jote.jpg |
| 16:43.01 | Bounty | but, if you die you lose all your levels >< |
| 16:43.14 | Bounty | why are you showing me that pic? |
| 16:43.16 | Bounty | thats me |
| 16:43.17 | Bounty | rofl |
| 16:43.41 | Bibendus | rofl |
| 16:43.42 | Bibendus | fuck u xD |
| 16:43.55 | Bounty | now tell me what u think of what i just said |
| 16:44.00 | Bibendus | how the hell do i know that progammer posted your picture :D |
| 16:44.08 | Bounty | >< |
| 16:46.12 | Bounty | so what do u think Bib |
| 16:46.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster ThunderLord (60e2f012@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.226.240.18) |
| 16:46.22 | Bibendus | that i ll take a shower |
| 16:46.28 | Bounty | grr |
| 16:46.28 | Bibendus | then go home |
| 16:46.31 | Bibendus | and start making the vid |
| 16:46.57 | Bounty | just tell me what u think damnit |
| 16:47.00 | Bounty | =P |
| 16:47.18 | Bibendus | tell what :O |
| 16:47.19 | Bounty | This map could be huge if its done right |
| 16:47.22 | Bounty | what i just asked |
| 16:47.25 | Bounty | about the leveling system |
| 16:47.25 | Bibendus | u know i always ignore u :P |
| 16:47.32 | Bounty | not true |
| 16:47.35 | Bibendus | i don't care about leveling systems |
| 16:47.45 | Bounty | no i mean like |
| 16:47.45 | ThunderLord | I gotz a question |
| 16:47.50 | Bounty | Should i have a leveling system in Underworld |
| 16:48.00 | Bibendus | bounty will be happy to answer while i m taking a shower |
| 16:48.00 | Bounty | and u lose all ur levels if u die |
| 16:48.01 | ThunderLord | you guys remember back in beta days when there was that thingy |
| 16:48.13 | Bounty | Yes ThunderLord, i remember the thingy |
| 16:48.16 | Bibendus | do whatever u want B |
| 16:48.23 | ThunderLord | where blizz was like "HEY MAPPERS! make games for us and you will GET MONEYZ!!!!!!!" |
| 16:48.28 | Bibendus | oh i love thingys |
| 16:48.31 | ThunderLord | and we were like "HOLY SHIT!!!!" |
| 16:48.33 | ThunderLord | but |
| 16:48.36 | ThunderLord | the game is out |
| 16:48.36 | ThunderLord | and |
| 16:48.38 | Bounty | Thunderlord, i dont remember that thingy |
| 16:48.42 | Bibendus | next year |
| 16:48.44 | ThunderLord | there is no moneys |
| 16:48.44 | Bibendus | or next expansion |
| 16:48.48 | Bibendus | map marketplace |
| 16:48.51 | ThunderLord | next year? |
| 16:48.52 | ThunderLord | really |
| 16:48.54 | Bounty | one problem though Thunderlord |
| 16:48.57 | Bibendus | OR next expansion |
| 16:48.59 | Bounty | Blizz has to approve your map |
| 16:49.00 | ThunderLord | are you for cereal? |
| 16:49.02 | Bounty | as a premium |
| 16:49.05 | Bounty | so |
| 16:49.09 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 16:49.11 | ThunderLord | thats fine |
| 16:49.13 | Bibendus | u suck so u ll never get money! |
| 16:49.13 | Bounty | ppl like me are fucked |
| 16:49.14 | Bibendus | :D |
| 16:49.27 | ThunderLord | my map will be approved np |
| 16:49.33 | Bibendus | what map is it |
| 16:49.35 | Bounty | do you have custom models |
| 16:49.35 | ThunderLord | IF I CAN FIND THE TIME TO ACTUALLY FINISH IT! |
| 16:49.38 | ThunderLord | no |
| 16:49.40 | Bibendus | lol |
| 16:49.41 | Bounty | it has to be 100% custom |
| 16:49.42 | ThunderLord | custom icons |
| 16:49.46 | Bibendus | no bounty |
| 16:49.49 | Bounty | thats what they said |
| 16:49.52 | Bounty | and it has to be better then dota |
| 16:49.54 | Bibendus | it needs to be |
| 16:49.55 | Bibendus | 100% original |
| 16:49.59 | ThunderLord | no way |
| 16:50.02 | ThunderLord | really? |
| 16:50.03 | Bibendus | and 100% different gameplay |
| 16:50.07 | Bounty | thats what they said bib |
| 16:50.10 | ThunderLord | IT IS 100% DIFF GAME PLAY |
| 16:50.10 | Bounty | it has to be better then dota |
| 16:50.11 | ThunderLord | for sure |
| 16:50.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:50.14 | ThunderLord | 3rd person |
| 16:50.16 | Bibendus | people must have the feeling to pay for another game |
| 16:50.20 | ThunderLord | kinda set up like a wow dungon |
| 16:50.31 | ThunderLord | Oh my game will be free |
| 16:50.34 | Bounty | do you have a video thunder? |
| 16:50.37 | Bibendus | then no money |
| 16:50.37 | ThunderLord | No |
| 16:50.38 | Bibendus | xD |
| 16:50.40 | Bounty | and for the record |
| 16:50.41 | ThunderLord | i should make one tho |
| 16:50.45 | ThunderLord | In face |
| 16:50.48 | ThunderLord | fact* |
| 16:50.48 | Bounty | i wouldnt feel comfy charging more then like 50 cents |
| 16:50.50 | ThunderLord | i will make one |
| 16:50.57 | Bounty | but thats just me |
| 16:50.58 | Bibendus | start with some screenz |
| 16:51.02 | ThunderLord | if there is a good map out there |
| 16:51.12 | ThunderLord | i would have no problem payin some pocket change for it |
| 16:51.20 | ThunderLord | expecially since i know how hard it is to program |
| 16:51.26 | Bounty | I bet you anything |
| 16:51.28 | Bibendus | i can make all my 3 maps be payforplay |
| 16:51.30 | Bibendus | if i want |
| 16:51.35 | Bounty | I could bank money if i made doodad hunt 2 as a premium lol |
| 16:51.38 | Bibendus | but i can't work on all of 3 |
| 16:51.39 | Bibendus | :D |
| 16:51.49 | ThunderLord | how would you suggest i make a video? how can i record? |
| 16:51.57 | Bounty | DL fraps |
| 16:51.58 | Bibendus | fraps |
| 16:51.59 | Bounty | but |
| 16:52.07 | Bounty | Dont DL it from the fraps website |
| 16:52.09 | Bounty | *wink wink* |
| 16:52.17 | Bibendus | oh just do it |
| 16:52.17 | Skittles | back |
| 16:52.23 | Bibendus | and "buy" it |
| 16:52.24 | ThunderLord | oh i have demo fraps already |
| 16:52.24 | Bibendus | :D |
| 16:52.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:52.31 | Bibendus | get the lastest version |
| 16:52.35 | Bounty | yeah but the demo only lets you record 30 seconds |
| 16:52.38 | Bibendus | is always better |
| 16:52.45 | Bibendus | as i said "buy" it |
| 16:52.46 | ThunderLord | ill do 30 second clips and put little text thingys inbetween |
| 16:52.51 | Skittles | lets u record 1 minute i think |
| 16:53.09 | Bounty | u can buy it off torrent sites |
| 16:53.13 | Skittles | lol |
| 16:53.14 | ThunderLord | UGH but my comp cannot play my game except on low settings lol |
| 16:53.14 | Bibendus | mm yes |
| 16:53.16 | ThunderLord | whatever |
| 16:53.18 | Bibendus | they sell it |
| 16:53.19 | Bibendus | xD |
| 16:53.20 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:53.21 | Bounty | yeah |
| 16:53.22 | ThunderLord | ill just make it with what i have |
| 16:53.23 | Bibendus | "sell" it |
| 16:53.24 | Bibendus | sry |
| 16:53.30 | ThunderLord | and when the map is really ready for me to show it off |
| 16:53.35 | ThunderLord | ill worry more about quality |
| 16:53.38 | ThunderLord | right now |
| 16:53.39 | Bounty | Thunder |
| 16:53.39 | ThunderLord | its just |
| 16:53.43 | Bounty | get someone to record it for u |
| 16:53.45 | Bounty | if ur on low settings |
| 16:53.48 | Bibendus | u can still merge |
| 16:53.52 | Bibendus | more videos |
| 16:53.52 | ThunderLord | "Oh that a cute little system there" |
| 16:53.55 | Bounty | unless u want ur videos to look like progammer made it |
| 16:53.59 | Bounty | >< |
| 16:54.01 | Bibendus | lol |
| 16:54.14 | silv_ | how do i get to play AI on my 1v1 melee map? |
| 16:54.30 | ThunderLord | It has 98.2% custom interface |
| 16:54.47 | Bounty | how the hell |
| 16:54.51 | Bounty | did you work those numbers |
| 16:54.53 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:54.57 | Bounty | 98 POINT 2? |
| 16:55.01 | ThunderLord | yessir |
| 16:55.06 | ThunderLord | ill up a vid in a min |
| 16:55.08 | ThunderLord | u will see |
| 16:55.26 | Bibendus | xD |
| 16:55.35 | Bounty | Either that percentage is incedibley accurate or you just added that .2 to make us think its accurate |
| 16:55.35 | Bibendus | it's the point 2 that makes the difference |
| 16:55.41 | Bibendus | xD |
| 16:55.59 | silv_ | how do i get to play AI on my 1v1 melee map? |
| 16:56.03 | Skittles | Bib, oddly enough, actors didn't help at all. Xd |
| 16:56.28 | Bounty | jesus christ |
| 16:56.30 | Bounty | this is insane |
| 16:56.32 | Bibendus | try |
| 16:56.35 | Bibendus | my dirt models |
| 16:56.35 | Bounty | this video |
| 16:56.38 | Bounty | STILL gets views |
| 16:56.39 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWzmo5AORk |
| 16:56.48 | Bounty | so bad |
| 16:56.48 | Skittles | cause u keep linking it! |
| 16:56.49 | Bibendus | but i think its not the prob |
| 16:56.50 | Bounty | rofl |
| 16:56.53 | Stewox | hello |
| 16:56.55 | Bounty | no skit |
| 16:56.57 | Bounty | look at the video |
| 16:56.58 | Stewox | can anyone explain |
| 16:57.00 | Bounty | u know how old that shit is? |
| 16:57.02 | Skittles | how do i use ur dirt models? |
| 16:57.04 | Stewox | what are database files in MPQ |
| 16:57.08 | Stewox | textures.db |
| 16:57.08 | Skittles | Idk how to do textures |
| 16:57.16 | Bounty | that video is like |
| 16:57.23 | Bounty | my first front page on mapster |
| 16:57.26 | Bibendus | skitties |
| 16:57.26 | Bibendus | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/dirt-wall/ |
| 16:57.52 | Skittles | yeah |
| 16:57.59 | Skittles | but how do i use textures? |
| 16:58.06 | Stewox | modeltextures.db and textures.db are in Assets of the Liberty Base.Sc2Assets |
| 16:58.11 | Skittles | Knew how in wc3, but couldn't find a value field for it on sc2. |
| 16:58.16 | Stewox | are they automatically generated by editor ? |
| 16:58.34 | Bibendus | and follow the instructionz |
| 16:58.41 | Bibendus | in the page |
| 16:58.52 | Stewox | biodome_normal.dds:1024:1024:3:11:biodome_opacity.dds:1024:1024:3:11:biodomebubble_diffuse.dds:64:64:3:7:biodomewater_diffuse.dds:128:128:3:8:bi |
| 16:58.55 | Stewox | that's the data inside |
| 16:58.58 | Bibendus | The texture file dirt.dds MUST be imported in the correct directory Assets/Textures/ |
| 16:59.20 | Bibendus | i ll take a shower |
| 16:59.28 | Bibendus | rly this time |
| 16:59.54 | Skittles | Xd |
| 17:00.05 | Skittles | do i use the mpq for that? |
| 17:00.20 | Skittles | or do u mean the import manager? |
| 17:00.37 | Bibendus | import managerù |
| 17:00.48 | Bibendus | let me take the fucking shower xD |
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| 17:01.51 | Skittles | k |
| 17:01.55 | Skittles | I understand now |
| 17:02.02 | noio | Hey |
| 17:02.08 | Skittles | ty |
| 17:02.10 | Skittles | hi |
| 17:02.12 | Bibendus | maybe u ll need to restart the editor |
| 17:02.17 | Bibendus | first texture |
| 17:02.18 | Bibendus | then model |
| 17:02.31 | noio | Quicky question: Is anyone else having trouble publishing maps? It hangs at 0% uploaded.. |
| 17:02.32 | Skittles | k |
| 17:03.13 | Bibendus | noio |
| 17:03.16 | Bibendus | corrupted header probably |
| 17:03.19 | Bibendus | search the forums for that |
| 17:07.04 | Skittles | whoops |
| 17:07.09 | Skittles | tried to import all my sc2 files. |
| 17:07.09 | Skittles | Xd |
| 17:11.14 | Skittles | was I suppose to put the cube in the assets too? |
| 17:12.43 | noio | Bibendus, thanks, that did the trick. |
| 17:12.52 | noio | Followed these steps: http://www.udmod.com/showthread.php?833-Game-Variants-Making-sure-you-do-not-get-header-corrupt.&s=75037363f50a1e14737eea585d754a20&p=10078#post10078 |
| 17:33.19 | Bibendus | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 18:32.00 | ThunderLord | Finished my preview video, looking over it i think i have put more work in to this game than what actually shows through lol |
| 18:32.22 | Bibendus | then show it |
| 18:32.22 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 29 minutes 2 seconds |
| 18:32.38 | ThunderLord | it |
| 18:32.48 | ThunderLord | is being processed by my windows movie maker thingy |
| 18:32.49 | Bibendus | it |
| 18:32.53 | Bibendus | lol |
| 18:32.54 | ThunderLord | then i am uploading to Utube |
| 18:33.42 | Bibendus | g00d |
| 18:34.06 | ThunderLord | Wow Lol i have alot of work to do, i hate evaluating my own progress |
| 18:34.09 | Bounty | lol i love how people watch pro streams and talk about the person streaming as if they were really famous |
| 18:34.50 | Bibendus | do like i did thunder |
| 18:34.51 | Bibendus | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/hive-keeper/pages/main/ |
| 18:35.35 | Bibendus | the progress thing |
| 18:35.43 | Bibendus | it's really helpful |
| 18:36.03 | ThunderLord | hummm |
| 18:36.05 | ThunderLord | maybe i will |
| 18:36.11 | ThunderLord | first |
| 18:36.33 | ThunderLord | i just shifted my map from single player capable to multiplayer |
| 18:36.34 | ThunderLord | and |
| 18:36.42 | ThunderLord | alot of it is not working |
| 18:37.05 | Bibendus | u should have thinked it before |
| 18:37.06 | Bibendus | :D |
| 18:37.09 | ThunderLord | maybe later today |
| 18:37.10 | ThunderLord | i did |
| 18:37.16 | ThunderLord | and i knew i would have to go back |
| 18:37.25 | ThunderLord | i just first wanted to get my ideas on a "Sketch pad" |
| 18:37.27 | Bibendus | then u did it wrong :D |
| 18:37.27 | ThunderLord | and |
| 18:37.49 | ThunderLord | well its hard to work with a half built system you know |
| 18:37.57 | Bounty | you should know off the bat if your map will be MP or SP :) |
| 18:38.07 | Bibendus | :P |
| 18:38.08 | Bounty | half built system? |
| 18:38.10 | ThunderLord | i knew it was going to be MP |
| 18:38.10 | Helral | ThunderLord: you should take a look at all the trigger which have a set player instead of a variable player ;p |
| 18:38.12 | ThunderLord | well like |
| 18:38.24 | ThunderLord | thats what im doing helral |
| 18:38.25 | ThunderLord | its just |
| 18:38.30 | ThunderLord | not all players are the same |
| 18:38.30 | Helral | It's a pain ;) |
| 18:38.39 | ThunderLord | a dps player has differant interface and stuf than a healer |
| 18:38.54 | Bounty | Thunder |
| 18:38.58 | ThunderLord | yeah? |
| 18:38.59 | Bounty | what did you mean by half built system lol |
| 18:39.05 | ThunderLord | well |
| 18:39.07 | ThunderLord | example |
| 18:39.20 | ThunderLord | when i do my abilitys being binded to keys |
| 18:39.26 | ThunderLord | (you will see in video) |
| 18:39.46 | ThunderLord | its like literally 100-200 actions for all that interface stuf |
| 18:39.53 | ThunderLord | and testing that |
| 18:39.59 | ThunderLord | would be impossible |
| 18:40.11 | Bounty | how is it 100-200 actions? lol |
| 18:40.16 | ThunderLord | like |
| 18:40.18 | ThunderLord | holy shit |
| 18:40.21 | Bounty | my abilities are 100% done by triggers and they are only like 20 |
| 18:40.21 | ThunderLord | alotta action |
| 18:40.29 | ThunderLord | not the abilitys themselvs |
| 18:40.31 | ThunderLord | but the tallent tree |
| 18:40.38 | ThunderLord | and the binding them to interface |
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| 18:41.18 | Bounty | Didnt the world of starcraft engine do that? |
| 18:41.40 | ThunderLord | there is a world of starcraft engine? |
| 18:41.50 | Bounty | yeah, someone made one |
| 18:41.53 | Bounty | from the editor |
| 18:41.59 | ThunderLord | World of Starcraft is alot what my game is like |
| 18:42.11 | Bounty | u should have just DL'd the map :) |
| 18:42.13 | Bounty | its open source now |
| 18:42.16 | Skittles | bibendus I actually did increase the fps by like 5-10 |
| 18:42.29 | Skittles | I think it's because it has no lighting, rather than the animation. |
| 18:43.47 | ThunderLord | well i like doing it all myself |
| 18:43.50 | ThunderLord | alot of the work i have done |
| 18:43.57 | ThunderLord | is making everything lag free |
| 18:44.16 | ThunderLord | byy making movment based on abilitys and keys |
| 18:44.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:44.31 | Bounty | thats also already been done |
| 18:44.33 | Bounty | by progammer |
| 18:44.39 | Bounty | u could have just DL'd that one to :) |
| 18:44.49 | ThunderLord | i saw what he did |
| 18:44.51 | ThunderLord | mine is differant |
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| 18:45.09 | ThunderLord | i was dissapointed when i realized that what i did had been thought of before |
| 18:45.29 | ThunderLord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL0AAso722E |
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| 18:46.38 | ThunderLord | The Zealot is the only class that is more than 50% programed so that why that is the only hero you see |
| 18:46.46 | Bibendus | u know |
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| 18:46.48 | Bibendus | nolag is a joke right? |
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| 18:47.07 | ThunderLord | Reduced lag |
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| 18:47.10 | Bibendus | oh wait |
| 18:47.14 | ThunderLord | i know |
| 18:47.17 | Bibendus | u mean u move with abilities? |
| 18:47.17 | Bounty | People should sto pusing the term lag lol |
| 18:47.20 | Bounty | and just say |
| 18:47.22 | Bounty | No Delay |
| 18:47.22 | ThunderLord | yessir |
| 18:47.27 | ThunderLord | a combonation of abilitys |
| 18:47.27 | Bibendus | oh then ok |
| 18:47.29 | Bibendus | :D |
| 18:47.30 | ThunderLord | and triggers |
| 18:47.39 | ThunderLord | your Stop is delayed |
| 18:47.43 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 18:48.03 | Bibendus | but |
| 18:48.11 | Bibendus | how can u detect if a button is kept pressed? |
| 18:48.21 | ThunderLord | THATS WHY THUNDER IS COOL |
| 18:48.25 | ThunderLord | TOLD YOU MINE WAS SPECIAL! |
| 18:48.31 | Bibendus | btw talent tree not TALLENT |
| 18:48.36 | ThunderLord | you press key right? |
| 18:48.41 | Bibendus | yep |
| 18:48.42 | ThunderLord | and it fires the ability |
| 18:48.43 | Bibendus | oh |
| 18:48.44 | Bibendus | the |
| 18:48.51 | Bibendus | lol |
| 18:48.51 | Bibendus | i got u |
| 18:48.52 | Bibendus | :D |
| 18:48.54 | Bibendus | only for stop |
| 18:48.58 | Bibendus | u use the keypress |
| 18:49.04 | ThunderLord | then a second later the trigger Keypress kicks in |
| 18:49.05 | ThunderLord | yup |
| 18:49.06 | Bibendus | while u use the ability for starting |
| 18:49.09 | Bibendus | nice trick |
| 18:49.12 | ThunderLord | Clever me |
| 18:49.15 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 18:49.21 | ThunderLord | and the camera relative mode is |
| 18:49.23 | Bounty | thing is |
| 18:49.26 | ThunderLord | based on right click |
| 18:49.27 | ThunderLord | so |
| 18:49.32 | Bounty | you really didnt even need a less laggy WASD |
| 18:49.34 | ThunderLord | that is based on smart command |
| 18:49.35 | Bounty | its an RPG |
| 18:49.36 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:49.46 | ThunderLord | what do you mean? |
| 18:49.52 | Bounty | well |
| 18:50.02 | Bounty | if you have a 0.5 second delay in your movement in an RPG |
| 18:50.11 | Bounty | how would it affect you? |
| 18:50.16 | ThunderLord | i gottcha |
| 18:50.21 | ThunderLord | its not just an rpg tho |
| 18:50.27 | ThunderLord | its a co-op |
| 18:50.33 | ThunderLord | Set up kinda like a wow dungon |
| 18:50.34 | Bibendus | do u know |
| 18:50.35 | Bounty | a co op RPG |
| 18:50.36 | Bibendus | y wrote |
| 18:50.36 | Bounty | =P |
| 18:50.36 | Bibendus | tallent |
| 18:50.37 | ThunderLord | DPS tank healer |
| 18:50.44 | Bibendus | and then tallant |
| 18:50.46 | Bibendus | ? |
| 18:50.46 | Bibendus | :D |
| 18:50.47 | ThunderLord | ;lol |
| 18:50.50 | ThunderLord | sorry |
| 18:51.01 | Bibendus | in the following line |
| 18:51.01 | Bibendus | and both are wrong |
| 18:51.01 | Bibendus | lolz |
| 18:51.31 | ThunderLord | you know that game has over 1000 trigger functions each with their own complex function and purpose |
| 18:51.36 | ThunderLord | and data |
| 18:51.39 | ThunderLord | that took hours |
| 18:51.45 | ThunderLord | and what gets pulled out of it? |
| 18:51.50 | Bibendus | just look the overview manager |
| 18:51.54 | ThunderLord | "you spelt talenqwt wrong" |
| 18:51.59 | Bibendus | talent |
| 18:52.00 | Bibendus | :D |
| 18:52.18 | Bibendus | u are still in time to correct it |
| 18:52.23 | Bounty | Thats how Bibendus is |
| 18:52.23 | Bibendus | and re-upload ;) |
| 18:52.28 | Bibendus | yep lol |
| 18:52.29 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 18:52.30 | Bounty | You could pain the Mona Lisa |
| 18:52.33 | Bibendus | bounty knows me |
| 18:52.34 | Bibendus | lol |
| 18:52.36 | Bounty | But if you didnt capitalize the M |
| 18:52.37 | ThunderLord | 178 triggers |
| 18:52.39 | Bounty | thats all he would say |
| 18:52.41 | Bibendus | xD |
| 18:52.42 | ThunderLord | 233 vars |
| 18:52.47 | ThunderLord | 4091 function |
| 18:52.52 | Bounty | Thunder |
| 18:52.54 | ThunderLord | 2208 actions |
| 18:52.56 | Bibendus | ouch |
| 18:53.00 | Bibendus | 178 triggers |
| 18:53.03 | ThunderLord | i know what ur guna say |
| 18:53.06 | ThunderLord | ALL NECESSARY |
| 18:53.08 | Bounty | Expect EVERYONE to react the same way Bib did |
| 18:53.11 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:53.13 | Bibendus | and action definitions? |
| 18:53.16 | Bounty | remember the type of people that are on battle net :) |
| 18:53.27 | Bounty | nobody gives a shit about the details |
| 18:53.41 | Bounty | my map has wow models holding wow weapons, getting the weapons to work took a long time |
| 18:53.44 | Bibendus | did u use all that triggers with no action definitions? |
| 18:53.44 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 18:53.46 | Bounty | nobody says oh hey |
| 18:53.48 | Bounty | wow weapons! |
| 18:53.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:53.52 | Bibendus | oh i must go |
| 18:53.56 | Bibendus | cya later! |
| 18:53.59 | Bounty | PAYCE |
| 18:54.16 | ThunderLord | so based on that vid |
| 18:54.23 | ThunderLord | when my map is done, would you play it? |
| 18:54.32 | Bounty | prolly |
| 18:54.53 | Bounty | but i like anything that is not TD, Dota or Dota Like, or a tug |
| 18:55.02 | ThunderLord | i plan to copy paste alot of it over in a pvp style game |
| 18:55.12 | ThunderLord | after blizz decides to fix the keydelay thing |
| 18:55.21 | Bounty | Build your fanbase before you do a spinoff >< |
| 18:55.22 | ThunderLord | because in pvp... |
| 18:55.34 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 18:55.34 | Bounty | you will be lucky to have any sort of fanbase at all |
| 18:55.41 | ThunderLord | true |
| 18:55.55 | ThunderLord | prolly just be and my 3 friends |
| 18:56.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:56.11 | Bounty | be sure to promote it and advertise >< |
| 18:59.17 | ThunderLord | how? |
| 18:59.21 | ThunderLord | just on SC2 mapster |
| 18:59.25 | ThunderLord | is all i know how |
| 18:59.37 | ThunderLord | Beg blizzard |
| 18:59.40 | ThunderLord | FEATURE ME! |
| 18:59.41 | ThunderLord | PLZ |
| 18:59.46 | ThunderLord | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.55 | ThunderLord | bibendus said somthin about action definitions, i looked in to those earlier, are they just was of condencing actions mostly? ive used them in the beta to increce the number of boss bars that are available in the game |
| 19:05.21 | Bounty | not sure what he meant, you would have to ask him |
| 19:06.07 | ThunderLord | i never really saw how you could use them that much, i mostly just do copy paste and use the default values of local vars for really big triggers to save time |
| 19:17.57 | Xaragoth | lol ... just attached a Semtex in Black Ops to the ass of an enemy sniper and jumped away |
| 19:18.13 | Xaragoth | i think he won't sit down in a while |
| 19:19.08 | Xapti | anyone know how to make a unit that uses a corpse model (paused death animation)? |
| 19:21.27 | Vail|away | Xapti when you pause a death model if it has a blood spray or other effect that continues to replay |
| 19:30.19 | Xapti | i don't mind |
| 19:30.48 | Xapti | i've just tried making a unit to use a death animation and couldn't get it working |
| 19:31.04 | Xapti | tried playing with actor model, actor events, death model, didn't really work out for me |
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| 19:44.53 | Vail | what is it that you are trying do ? what effect are you trying to achieve |
| 19:48.13 | Helral | meows |
| 19:49.51 | Xapti | dead unit |
| 19:50.46 | Vail | why do you want a dead unit as a prop or for a resurrect attempt? |
| 19:50.58 | Xapti | yes |
| 19:51.08 | Helral | lol |
| 19:51.50 | Helral | A or B? yes.... :) always funny to see those replies. |
| 19:52.16 | Vail | i am going to assume ressurect attempt and say you can not yet ressurect a unit in starcraft2 to the best of my knowledge. |
| 19:52.27 | Vail | you can revive one though |
| 19:52.36 | Xapti | yes i know |
| 19:53.29 | Xapti | all I need is an actor that plays a certain frame of death animation paused |
| 19:54.21 | Vail | ok |
| 19:55.51 | Xapti | someone who does modeling could extract a frame from animation and make it a model even, although that's probably not preferred because it would use up a bunch of map space |
| 19:58.12 | Xapti | man, baklava is so much better than chocolate bars... well at least milk chocolate |
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| 20:12.05 | Bibendus | baaaaaack |
| 20:15.21 | Skittles | wb |
| 20:20.33 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 20:20.55 | Helral | what settings could cause the GATEWAY_DOWN error when publishing (EU)? |
| 20:21.04 | Xapti | I suppose pick each player from player group use the actual player's number from "picked player" as opposed to just a index value from 1 to x right? |
| 20:21.37 | Xapti | yeah i don't know why I bothered to ask really |
| 20:22.04 | Helral | yup |
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| 20:27.11 | Xapti | man I am so damn lazy |
| 20:27.18 | Xapti | not using custom functions |
| 20:27.29 | Xapti | just costing me more time in the long run probably |
| 20:34.25 | Skittles | lol |
| 20:34.58 | Skittles | sounds more like bored. |
| 20:36.21 | Skittles | boredom |
| 20:42.05 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 20:42.58 | Helral | meows |
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| 20:51.05 | Helral | what settings could cause the GATEWAY_DOWN error when publishing (EU)? |
| 20:55.45 | ThunderLord | anyone familiar with Real ID? if i have a Real friend who is on my WOW account and i log in to starcraft at the same time, will my real id friends wisper the right person, or even hear me when i talk to them? or does that WoW Account block me off? |
| 20:58.26 | Helral | think you'll get the message on both. |
| 20:58.42 | ThunderLord | humm |
| 20:58.49 | ThunderLord | if that is the case |
| 20:58.58 | ThunderLord | people must not like talking to me XD |
| 20:59.07 | JManV|Work | you can log into both at the same time |
| 20:59.08 | JManV|Work | ? |
| 20:59.20 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 20:59.25 | ThunderLord | i just dont have wow on this computer |
| 20:59.25 | JManV|Work | same account? |
| 20:59.26 | ThunderLord | cuz |
| 20:59.28 | ThunderLord | wow sucks |
| 20:59.39 | ThunderLord | my friend wanted my old toons tho |
| 20:59.40 | ThunderLord | and now |
| 20:59.43 | ThunderLord | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.52 | Vesuvius | you can talk to people on WoW with real id |
| 21:08.53 | Vesuvius | :P |
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| 21:12.21 | Bibendus|AFK | goin to record |
| 21:12.21 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 16 seconds |
| 21:12.23 | Bibendus | cyalater :D |
| 21:17.13 | Helral | hmmmmm |
| 21:17.30 | Helral | anyone know what could cause the GATEWAY_DOWN error when publishing (EU)? |
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| 21:18.30 | Mephs | you must construct additional pylons. |
| 21:18.35 | Mephs | hiyoooo |
| 21:18.55 | Helral | Sixen you there? |
| 21:19.11 | Sixen | Perhaps :D |
| 21:19.16 | Helral | yay |
| 21:19.17 | Sixen | Oy, Gateway_down |
| 21:19.24 | Helral | yup |
| 21:19.29 | Helral | got that publish error. :( |
| 21:19.37 | Helral | any idea how to fix it? ;p |
| 21:19.45 | Sixen | hm |
| 21:20.45 | Helral | I've already looked at the game variants and such. |
| 21:20.59 | Xaragoth | do you have imported sound? |
| 21:21.05 | Mephs | char select: http://img715.imageshack.us/f/charsel.png/ |
| 21:21.24 | Helral | Xaragoth: not added since last upload. |
| 21:21.37 | Xaragoth | that caused me problems when I uploaded Mephs map |
| 21:21.48 | Helral | hmmm |
| 21:21.57 | Helral | I've got 2 wavs from Diablo I in it. |
| 21:22.09 | Mephs | xaragoth i figured out a way to compress sounds |
| 21:22.13 | Mephs | that might fix things |
| 21:22.26 | Xaragoth | good, good |
| 21:22.30 | Mephs | also |
| 21:22.31 | Xaragoth | now you need kc to finish the terrain |
| 21:22.31 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 21:22.41 | Mephs | he is still working on it i think |
| 21:22.48 | Mephs | but i'm working on my hero arena right now, almost ready to release |
| 21:22.50 | Xaragoth | lazy bastard hasn't done anything in UDK yet :p |
| 21:22.51 | Mephs | see pic :D |
| 21:23.09 | Mephs | so i need some pro arena terrains |
| 21:23.11 | Mephs | like...3 |
| 21:23.15 | Mephs | not particularly big job |
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| 21:27.35 | Xaragoth | walks away, picking up his Crossbow on the way. |
| 21:27.47 | Xaragoth | Not me, gotta shoot more bad guys with explosive arrows in the ass. |
| 21:28.19 | Mephs | you can explode asses later |
| 21:28.24 | DarkRevenant | kills Xaragoth telekinetically by pinching his aorta shut. |
| 21:28.39 | Mephs | history is about to be made |
| 21:28.44 | DarkRevenant | wat |
| 21:28.47 | DarkRevenant | history? |
| 21:29.00 | Xaragoth | indeed, it'll be the biggest ass-exploding-killing-spree in the history of gaming |
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| 21:34.08 | Helral | so Sixen any idea? |
| 21:34.27 | Sixen | Is your net connection OK? |
| 21:34.30 | Helral | yup |
| 21:34.40 | Sixen | Usually that'll happen if you have a slow conenction. Someone was telling me it happens a lot on EU though |
| 21:34.43 | Helral | I've even tried it without my connection monitor and virusscanner. |
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| 21:34.57 | Helral | well I got 1mb upload orso. |
| 21:35.15 | Sixen | Mmm that should be fine I think |
| 21:35.16 | Helral | maybe 512 kb. |
| 21:35.22 | Sixen | how big is the map |
| 21:35.27 | Helral | 2megs. |
| 21:35.31 | Helral | give or take. |
| 21:35.41 | Helral | 2.28 it seems ;p |
| 21:36.39 | Helral | Sixen: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/helrals-random-dungeon-map/files/11-helrals-random-dungeon-map/ <-- map is there, can you try upload to NA just to see if it's the map? |
| 21:38.24 | Sixen | I have no computer, I have to set it up today. My motherboard fried, :( |
| 21:38.28 | Sixen | I'm on my laptop w/o sc2 |
| 21:38.34 | Helral | :( |
| 21:38.47 | Sixen | Are you able to upload other maps? |
| 21:38.52 | Helral | good point. |
| 21:38.57 | Helral | lemme try an empty map. |
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| 21:39.46 | Sixen | I'll brb. |
| 21:40.22 | Bibendus | no |
| 21:40.25 | Bibendus | stay here my luv |
| 21:40.38 | ThunderLord | Its time for my motherboard to fry too, i need a good excuse to go out and get a good computer |
| 21:41.05 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 21:41.18 | Helral | hmmm no problems with empty map. |
| 21:45.41 | Xapti | is there a way to shrink an image to diplay in GUI tooltip? |
| 21:45.54 | Xapti | or it jut has to be re-imported? |
| 21:46.41 | Bibendus | rendering vid |
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| 21:52.47 | Bibendus | ye i love skype -_- |
| 21:52.51 | Bibendus | he made me crash while rendering |
| 22:02.34 | Bibendus | sixen my luv |
| 22:02.37 | Bibendus | i have a proposal for u |
| 22:03.49 | Skittles | Neat, there's a lot of cool freeware out there. =D |
| 22:04.27 | Bibendus | sixen where are uuuuuuuuuuu |
| 22:04.30 | Bibendus | i need uuuuuuuuu u u u u |
| 22:04.46 | Bibendus | ~seen sixen |
| 22:04.58 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (1d 5h 24m 19s) #wowhead (1d 5h 24m 19s) #wowuidev (1d 5h 24m 19s). Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 25m 12s, last said: 'I'll brb.'. |
| 22:05.10 | Bibendus | brb my asshole! |
| 22:05.46 | Dekar | oh look its helral! |
| 22:06.02 | Helral | where? |
| 22:06.03 | Bibendus | kicks the stupid cat |
| 22:06.13 | Dekar | catches the stupid cat |
| 22:06.21 | Bibendus | prepares for the cat's jump |
| 22:06.22 | Helral | watches Bibendus kick some cat, and sees Dekar catch it. |
| 22:06.28 | Helral | ignores that other cat. |
| 22:06.30 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:06.34 | Helral | :P |
| 22:06.35 | Dekar | lets the stupid cat go |
| 22:06.41 | Bibendus | 75% |
| 22:07.06 | Helral | so any of you know how to fix that stupid gateway down error? |
| 22:07.17 | Bibendus | what? |
| 22:07.18 | Bibendus | irc? |
| 22:07.22 | Dekar | set your pc on fire |
| 22:07.29 | Bibendus | irc disconnection? |
| 22:07.36 | Dekar | bnet gateway ? |
| 22:07.41 | Helral | no the publish error |
| 22:07.43 | Bibendus | helral? |
| 22:07.46 | Bibendus | oh |
| 22:07.46 | Dekar | ooh |
| 22:07.48 | Bibendus | header error |
| 22:07.49 | Dekar | i had that error too |
| 22:07.52 | Bibendus | corrupted header |
| 22:07.54 | Bibendus | as always |
| 22:07.56 | Dekar | yeah |
| 22:08.09 | Helral | it doesn't say corrupt header, it just says gateway down. |
| 22:08.13 | Dekar | i know |
| 22:08.14 | Bibendus | ahaha and? |
| 22:08.14 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:08.20 | Bibendus | u get thousand of different errors |
| 22:08.26 | Bibendus | but the header is always the problem |
| 22:08.27 | Bibendus | believe me |
| 22:08.31 | Dekar | remember, its bnet 2.0 |
| 22:08.34 | Bibendus | maybe 0% upload forever |
| 22:08.40 | Bibendus | or error at any random percentage |
| 22:08.43 | Bibendus | or error at 100% |
| 22:08.43 | Helral | I got 100% upload. |
| 22:08.50 | Bibendus | ye i mean |
| 22:08.52 | Helral | with 2.28 mb. |
| 22:08.56 | Bibendus | u can get thousand of different errors |
| 22:08.59 | Helral | any larger size and the percentage drops. |
| 22:08.59 | Bibendus | its a header problem |
| 22:09.05 | Bibendus | check the forum for correct instructions |
| 22:09.10 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 22:09.14 | Bibendus | on what must not be changed on headers |
| 22:09.19 | Dekar | go to game variants |
| 22:09.22 | Bibendus | 99% |
| 22:09.26 | Dekar | if you have custom vriants, remove them |
| 22:09.29 | Dekar | if you dont, add some |
| 22:09.30 | Helral | well I checked the default stuff on the game variants. |
| 22:09.31 | Dekar | :D |
| 22:09.31 | Bibendus | and it should work |
| 22:09.40 | Helral | that didn't work. |
| 22:09.40 | Bibendus | just remove them |
| 22:09.50 | Helral | no game variants? |
| 22:10.00 | Dekar | no game variants |
| 22:10.20 | Bibendus | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/editor-bugs-and-feedback/2973-publish-error-lost-connection-to-gateway/ |
| 22:11.11 | Dekar | there are probably a dozen ways to cause this error |
| 22:11.28 | Helral | I've already scoured the forum nothing helped. |
| 22:13.44 | Dekar | did you change player settings? |
| 22:13.57 | Dekar | IN ANY WAY |
| 22:13.58 | Dekar | D: |
| 22:14.18 | Helral | player settings... like in what way? |
| 22:15.14 | Helral | basicly I got the following for player props: 1 - Terran- User, 2 - Terran - User, 3 - User, 4 - User |
| 22:15.20 | Helral | only listed the changed values. |
| 22:15.46 | Helral | no game variants/game attributes. |
| 22:17.54 | Dekar | well then SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR MAP |
| 22:18.09 | Dekar | dunno |
| 22:18.31 | Dekar | one time i changed a lot of things at players and couldnt upload it, but not with that error and many versions earlier |
| 22:18.47 | Dekar | and i dont remember how exactly i fixed |
| 22:18.53 | Dekar | my gateway down |
| 22:20.59 | Bibendus | helral |
| 22:21.02 | Bibendus | dont set player shit |
| 22:21.04 | Bibendus | dont set anything |
| 22:21.11 | Bibendus | just remove them and return to default |
| 22:21.14 | Bibendus | then try to upload |
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| 22:21.52 | Dekar | yeah |
| 22:23.31 | Helral | upload without any players? |
| 22:23.52 | Bibendus | dunno try |
| 22:23.53 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:24.03 | Bibendus | its all part of the header |
| 22:24.06 | Dekar | well, 1 player as its default |
| 22:24.19 | Bibendus | all things that give info to bnet on how the game works |
| 22:24.23 | Bibendus | is part of the header |
| 22:24.27 | Skittles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkkyKZVzug |
| 22:24.52 | Dekar | minecraft is such a big pile of shit |
| 22:25.06 | Dekar | dwarf fortress had better computers long ago |
| 22:25.30 | Bibendus | :P |
| 22:25.42 | Dekar | http://www.geekosystem.com/dwarf-fortress-turing-machine-computer/ |
| 22:25.45 | Skittles | ;p; |
| 22:25.56 | Bibendus | WTF? |
| 22:25.58 | Bibendus | :O |
| 22:26.21 | Bibendus | why the fuck people waste time doing that |
| 22:26.29 | Skittles | lol ~7 mintues it was funny tho |
| 22:26.50 | Skittles | he was explaining shit and then sees a pig looking at him and is like, you listening pig? Huh? |
| 22:27.07 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:27.40 | Skittles | 5:55 he says it |
| 22:27.42 | Bibendus | wtf what kind? of faggot would waste his time doing this |
| 22:27.43 | Bibendus | lolllllll |
| 22:27.49 | Bibendus | imba comment |
| 22:29.03 | Skittles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7-RwMMUX9A&feature=related |
| 22:29.04 | Skittles | lol |
| 22:29.19 | Skittles | lol yeah i saw that comment too |
| 22:30.09 | Bibendus | laaag |
| 22:30.10 | Bibendus | and still alive :D |
| 22:30.20 | Xapti | anyone know if camera fog exists or how to implement it? |
| 22:30.55 | Dekar | data editor |
| 22:31.00 | Dekar | there is |
| 22:31.06 | Xapti | i kno there' camera cutoff and depth of field, and that there' a fog setting for the terrain set, but I cant' seem to get the fog for the terrain set to work (assuming it can work like i think it can) |
| 22:31.10 | Dekar | gameplay data |
| 22:31.17 | Dekar | hmm |
| 22:31.20 | Xapti | gameplay data? |
| 22:31.20 | Bibendus | lol rly pigs |
| 22:31.20 | Dekar | :< |
| 22:31.20 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:31.53 | Dekar | doesnt actually |
| 22:31.54 | Dekar | have fog |
| 22:31.56 | Dekar | meh |
| 22:32.36 | Skittles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCJeUvqFuA0&feature=fvw lol first 30 seconds was epic. |
| 22:33.01 | Xapti | I am using camera cutoff right now (at like 80 range) but it still looks kinda dumb, because it just cuts to black |
| 22:33.16 | Xapti | so I want to implement fog so it's more aof a gradient |
| 22:41.48 | Dekar | did you fix it yet helral? |
| 22:41.58 | Helral | nope |
| 22:42.34 | Helral | any more ideas? |
| 22:43.44 | Bibendus | remove the image preview |
| 22:43.47 | Bibendus | of the map |
| 22:45.05 | Helral | what image preview? |
| 22:45.18 | Helral | I never had any. |
| 22:45.52 | Bibendus | but there is the default one |
| 22:45.53 | Bibendus | try |
| 22:46.06 | Bibendus | i read it on the thread i linked u before |
| 22:46.08 | Helral | the minimap image? |
| 22:46.10 | Bibendus | or on another dunno |
| 22:46.11 | Bibendus | y |
| 22:46.15 | Bibendus | the map preview |
| 22:46.17 | Bibendus | u see on bnet |
| 22:46.17 | Helral | already tried |
| 22:46.23 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 22:46.25 | Bibendus | then dunno :| |
| 22:46.31 | Helral | I've set it to hidden atm again. |
| 22:46.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer (a43a7020@gateway/web/freenode/ip.164.58.112.32) |
| 22:46.57 | Bibendus | AAAAAAAAA |
| 22:46.58 | Helral | I just removed the localization. that didn't fix it either. |
| 22:47.01 | Bibendus | here is my other lover |
| 22:47.06 | Bibendus | progammer kizz |
| 22:47.12 | progammer | yo |
| 22:47.17 | Bibendus | i have a proposal :D |
| 22:47.23 | Helral | whissles |
| 22:47.27 | progammer | lemme hear ut |
| 22:47.29 | progammer | it |
| 22:57.34 | wOlfLinG | So, everyone have a nice christmas? |
| 22:58.03 | wOlfLinG | Or, if you don't celebrate christmas, a nice few days? xD |
| 22:58.09 | Bibendus | sick christmas |
| 22:58.25 | Bibendus | or sick few days |
| 22:58.42 | wOlfLinG | Love my new mouse and keyboard :D |
| 22:58.57 | wOlfLinG | Even though i got a keyboard with a US layout instead of an EU one ¬.¬ |
| 23:00.09 | Bibendus | pwn3d |
| 23:00.11 | Xapti | aww man fog can't be dark (or black) |
| 23:00.23 | Xapti | fogs alpha color is black :\ |
| 23:01.21 | wOlfLinG | Meh, at least i can pretty much touch type so i don't need to even have the keys labelled :P |
| 23:01.45 | wOlfLinG | Although i'm not used to enter being half the size of what it is on UK keyboards >< |
| 23:02.39 | Dekar | madness |
| 23:03.00 | wOlfLinG | Anyway, how do i extract a music track from SC2? :D |
| 23:05.35 | Xapti | export? |
| 23:07.36 | Xapti | oh i think you have to open the mpqs with mpq editor i guess |
| 23:07.47 | Dekar | pets the poor and sad kitten helral |
| 23:07.58 | Bibendus | guys |
| 23:08.03 | Bibendus | what "time for a 24h" means |
| 23:08.07 | Bibendus | :O |
| 23:08.17 | Dekar | 24 hour disconnect |
| 23:08.26 | Bibendus | oh :| |
| 23:08.49 | Dekar | disconnect after 24 hours online |
| 23:09.04 | Bibendus | and how do u know that |
| 23:09.04 | Bibendus | xD |
| 23:09.09 | Dekar | i have that too |
| 23:09.11 | Dekar | except not |
| 23:09.20 | Bibendus | O_o? |
| 23:09.24 | Dekar | because my router only connects when there |
| 23:09.32 | Dekar | something requests a connection |
| 23:09.41 | Dekar | so only when i turn on my pc |
| 23:09.44 | Dekar | it connects |
| 23:09.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster RaydenUni (~rayden@76.91.184.69) |
| 23:09.50 | Dekar | and i dont let it run for 24 hours usually |
| 23:10.11 | Dekar | so unless i stay awake for 24 hours i dont connect that long |
| 23:10.18 | Dekar | buuut |
| 23:10.20 | Dekar | my old router |
| 23:10.26 | Dekar | it was connected all the time |
| 23:10.36 | Dekar | so there i knew |
| 23:10.46 | Dekar | at 2 in the night i get disconnected |
| 23:11.09 | Dekar | or when it froze and i reset it, the 24h disconnect was moved to that time |
| 23:11.23 | Bibendus | :O |
| 23:11.45 | Dekar | so then i had to move it to another time by disconnecting it manualy |
| 23:11.57 | Dekar | far into the night or early morning |
| 23:12.04 | Dekar | to not annoy me |
| 23:12.25 | Dekar | AND NOW YOU KNOW THE TRUE STORY! |
| 23:14.00 | Bibendus | btw i don't think progammer meant that |
| 23:14.03 | Bibendus | he's still online |
| 23:14.05 | Bibendus | and still gone :D |
| 23:15.41 | Dekar | whatever! |
| 23:16.32 | Dekar | programm timed out ( ping timeout: 34635 seconds ) |
| 23:16.34 | Dekar | *er |
| 23:18.05 | wOlfLinG | Well that was convincing :/ |
| 23:21.47 | Bibendus | lol |
| 23:21.50 | Bibendus | i see him |
| 23:21.50 | Bibendus | ! |
| 23:29.26 | wOlfLinG | :/ Hmm... Just converted a .ogg file into a .wav an a .mp3 file. The .wav file is around 4-5 times larger than the mp3 >< |
| 23:29.58 | *** join/#sc2mapster white_pawn (47c5bec1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.197.190.193) |
| 23:30.05 | white_pawn | hello everyone |
| 23:30.17 | Vail | jello |
| 23:30.34 | Vail | is made out denatured cow bones |
| 23:30.39 | wOlfLinG | Ohaithar white_pawn! |
| 23:30.55 | wOlfLinG | Vail: What IS jello? :/ |
| 23:30.56 | white_pawn | i has a question - are we able to edit the model of buildings/units using just the editor? |
| 23:31.13 | Xapti | no |
| 23:31.13 | wOlfLinG | White_pawn: Yes and no |
| 23:31.26 | wOlfLinG | We can't completely change it within the editor |
| 23:31.35 | wOlfLinG | But, we can attack units to others |
| 23:31.39 | Xapti | cannot change m3 files at all within the editor |
| 23:31.51 | wOlfLinG | So a pylon with zealots carrying it would be possible |
| 23:32.00 | wOlfLinG | attach, not attack :/ |
| 23:32.01 | Xapti | you can just add multiple models to an actor to make it look different |
| 23:32.06 | wOlfLinG | yeah |
| 23:32.18 | wOlfLinG | Thats how the uberlisk was made |
| 23:32.18 | white_pawn | hmm okay |
| 23:32.22 | white_pawn | right |
| 23:32.30 | wOlfLinG | At least, PMs uberlisk. Blizzard did it some other way |
| 23:33.08 | Xapti | Anyone know what's with the differences between game camera objects you can make, and the default camera? |
| 23:33.16 | Xapti | so many different settings for each of them |
| 23:33.19 | Vail | jello is the processed remains of denatured cattal bones >..> go have some jello |
| 23:33.32 | white_pawn | i've played some TD maps and some have new models, I guess they just imported it? |
| 23:33.45 | Xapti | like default camera has focus depth, cutoff start, cutoff end, height offset |
| 23:34.31 | Xapti | while camera object has none of that, but has stuff default camera doesn't have like depth of field start distance, end distance, camera position |
| 23:36.19 | wOlfLinG | white_pwan: Probably |
