| 00:00.10 | doite | a condition where it checks if the unit is in combat |
| 00:02.21 | Skittles | brb |
| 00:08.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mirvra (50d86b01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.216.107.1) |
| 00:08.54 | Mirvra | yo |
| 00:09.05 | Mirvra | good evening(?) everyone ^^ |
| 00:09.22 | Mirvra | although i dont expect a reply |
| 00:10.38 | Vail | hello |
| 00:10.48 | Mirvra | yo |
| 00:12.04 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.14 | doite | if event is unit is attacked |
| 00:12.23 | doite | does this mean "triggered unit is under attack"? |
| 00:12.38 | doite | What im asking is what is the definition of "suppressed" |
| 00:13.08 | Vail | i think in this instance it means like turned off or disabled .... but i am not sure and could be wrong |
| 00:14.13 | doite | What im trying to do is make a condition when the player cant unselect a unit when hes under attack |
| 00:14.36 | doite | where* |
| 00:14.46 | doite | when the "unit" |
| 00:20.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mirvra (50d86b01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.216.107.1) |
| 00:20.56 | Mirvra | cause i dident expect anyone to be here |
| 00:21.02 | Mirvra | Xaragoth |
| 00:21.11 | Xaragoth | o'rly |
| 00:21.11 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 00:21.21 | Mirvra | yeah |
| 00:21.27 | Xaragoth | *pats mirv* poor little mirv |
| 00:21.40 | Mirvra | normaly people on this irc never respond -.- and when they finnaly do it's just to talk about the editor |
| 00:22.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster JManV (450e9a13@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.14.154.19) |
| 00:22.08 | JManV | i need more RAM |
| 00:22.15 | Mirvra | i'm not giving you mine o.o |
| 00:22.18 | Xaragoth | Well... that is the purpose, isn't it |
| 00:22.37 | Mirvra | the irc feels wasted with just that though >.<;; |
| 00:23.14 | Skittles | hi |
| 00:23.16 | Skittles | back i mean |
| 00:23.21 | Mirvra | yo |
| 00:23.59 | Skittles | Xaragoth |
| 00:24.07 | Skittles | You should put my map on the news. =D |
| 00:24.13 | Skittles | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/16007-the-departed/#p9 |
| 00:24.16 | Xaragoth | Lemme think about this |
| 00:24.23 | Xaragoth | PROGAMMER *looks around* |
| 00:24.35 | Xaragoth | I'll put it into our "Content Gathering" Thread for you |
| 00:24.50 | Mirvra | content gathering? <.< |
| 00:25.11 | Xaragoth | ye, for news |
| 00:25.15 | Mirvra | oh |
| 00:25.31 | Skittles | >.> |
| 00:26.14 | Skittles | idk i just remember sixen or vj saying pm me if u want your map newsed |
| 00:26.21 | Skittles | but they don't really do anything any more >.> |
| 00:26.41 | Xaragoth | vjeux is bound to mmo-champ right now, as far as I know |
| 00:26.51 | Mirvra | mmo-champ...? |
| 00:27.13 | Skittles | ew |
| 00:27.15 | Skittles | well |
| 00:27.19 | Skittles | was food for a month |
| 00:27.27 | Skittles | once u hit 40, there's nothing to do |
| 00:27.32 | Mirvra | ?? |
| 00:27.35 | Skittles | Mmo Champions online |
| 00:27.41 | Mirvra | oh.. |
| 00:27.50 | Xaragoth | no |
| 00:27.50 | Mirvra | never heard of it o.o |
| 00:27.52 | Skittles | oh? |
| 00:27.53 | Xaragoth | mmo-champion.com |
| 00:27.53 | Xaragoth | ;D |
| 00:28.02 | Skittles | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/ |
| 00:28.13 | Mirvra | meh dun feel like checking it out -.- |
| 00:28.22 | Skittles | what isi t tho? |
| 00:28.24 | Skittles | wow stuff? |
| 00:28.38 | Xaragoth | yes, it is |
| 00:28.48 | Skittles | oh |
| 00:28.50 | Skittles | curse.com too |
| 00:29.33 | JManV | hmmm... i'm not sure this "feels" much like pallet town: |
| 00:29.34 | JManV | http://i56.tinypic.com/2ezikwp.jpg |
| 00:29.44 | Skittles | so what's in the chirsmtas special? |
| 00:29.55 | Skittles | christmas |
| 00:30.00 | Skittles | A tree is rather easy to make with doodads in the editor so you know. |
| 00:30.21 | Skittles | jman |
| 00:30.23 | Skittles | for the water |
| 00:30.26 | Skittles | rather than using cliffs |
| 00:30.35 | Skittles | just use decrease terrain height |
| 00:31.15 | Skittles | you're lacking the plant life too |
| 00:31.20 | Skittles | http://www.google.com/images?q=pallet+town&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=933 |
| 00:31.21 | Mirvra | what christmas special? |
| 00:31.25 | Skittles | I'm actually a bit impress taht |
| 00:31.32 | Skittles | He does modcraft, right? |
| 00:31.42 | JManV | it's there but you can't see it well |
| 00:31.44 | Mirvra | Xara? o.o |
| 00:31.46 | JManV | the grass is too green |
| 00:31.47 | Skittles | oh maybe it's gorander |
| 00:32.00 | Mirvra | Xara/gorandor |
| 00:32.00 | Mirvra | no? |
| 00:32.03 | Skittles | oh you're right there is |
| 00:32.08 | Skittles | yeah i think it's both |
| 00:32.19 | Skittles | jman |
| 00:32.25 | Skittles | change it from bushes to some other plant life |
| 00:32.32 | Mirvra | ah... o.o |
| 00:32.40 | Skittles | has flowers on the picture anyawy |
| 00:32.42 | Skittles | anyway |
| 00:32.48 | Mirvra | i once knew a guy called Jman on secondlife..... O.o;; creepy... |
| 00:32.57 | Xaragoth | oh, christmas special? |
| 00:32.59 | Skittles | Xara couldn't tell me what's in christmas special anyway, it's a "surprise" |
| 00:33.00 | Xaragoth | it's like ... special |
| 00:33.01 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 00:33.04 | Skittles | :p |
| 00:33.16 | Mirvra | isent it just playing a bunch of maps and having fun? -.- |
| 00:33.20 | Skittles | I'm just giving the heads up that a christmas tree is easy to make in editor :p |
| 00:33.25 | Skittles | no |
| 00:33.28 | Skittles | that's custom live |
| 00:33.37 | Skittles | modcraft is making models |
| 00:33.38 | Skittles | and maps |
| 00:33.49 | Skittles | tho i don't think anybody cared about the maps >.> |
| 00:33.57 | Mirvra | XD |
| 00:34.10 | Mirvra | poor Xara =P noone actually cared about your maps xD |
| 00:35.06 | JManV | i'm not sure how i can make it something else... it was done with generate foliage |
| 00:35.08 | Skittles | anyway, i'm liking the colonist huts quite a bit as buildings jmanv |
| 00:35.17 | Skittles | oh? |
| 00:35.23 | Skittles | doodads are in there too |
| 00:35.26 | Mirvra | but i'm pretty sure that Otixa said something playing maps aswell during the christmas special o.o |
| 00:35.32 | Skittles | doodads have environment stuff too |
| 00:35.34 | Mirvra | about playing* |
| 00:36.32 | Skittles | hmm |
| 00:36.34 | Skittles | who knows |
| 00:36.55 | JManV | the buildings are pretty big themselves in game... |
| 00:36.55 | Mirvra | i'm hoping theres some map playing... o.o cause it's really fun playing with that many people ^^ |
| 00:41.00 | JManV | oh, i c you said you liked them |
| 00:41.04 | Skittles | ah, you're eu then mir? |
| 00:41.08 | JManV | yeah... they work pretty well |
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| 00:43.28 | Xaragoth | disconnects suck ~~ |
| 00:43.34 | Mirvra | ??? |
| 00:44.21 | Skittles | I've never been disconnected from the irc @.@ |
| 00:44.30 | Mirvra | ah |
| 00:44.32 | Mirvra | yeah i'm EU |
| 00:44.49 | Skittles | Xaragoth: hey do you know a good video recorder? That's 100% free? |
| 00:44.58 | JManV | i think the houses need more color tho |
| 00:45.05 | Xaragoth | fraps |
| 00:46.13 | Skittles | fraps isn't free |
| 00:46.24 | Skittles | it's like limited to 1 minute for free users |
| 00:46.31 | Skittles | also I can't get the fraps videos to work right |
| 00:46.42 | JManV | torrent it |
| 00:46.45 | Mirvra | yar-har-har? o.o |
| 00:46.47 | Skittles | eehh |
| 00:46.52 | Mirvra | xD |
| 00:46.53 | Skittles | Don't u log in? |
| 00:47.13 | JManV | i dunno |
| 00:47.19 | JManV | i was told to torrent it myself |
| 00:47.24 | JManV | haven't done it tho |
| 00:47.43 | Skittles | lol guess i could just record again and again |
| 00:47.47 | Skittles | then compile all the movies |
| 00:47.49 | Skittles | lol |
| 00:48.00 | Skittles | either way, couldn't get it to work. |
| 00:48.47 | Vail | fraps sucks .. |
| 00:48.58 | Mirvra | GAAAH! it speaks! O.O |
| 00:49.01 | Mirvra | ... |
| 00:49.05 | Mirvra | sorry... |
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| 00:49.29 | Vail | GAAH it stupids .... Sorry -_- |
| 00:49.54 | Skittles | what's better? |
| 00:49.54 | Mirvra | aw... and here i was gonna say that i hoped we'd get along o.o |
| 00:50.07 | Vail | sorry |
| 00:50.08 | Skittles | vail were u the one with that zealot video thingy and u told me to get it last night? |
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| 00:50.24 | Vail | i dont think so |
| 00:50.27 | Skittles | ah |
| 00:50.30 | Skittles | what do u use to record? |
| 00:50.53 | Vail | nothing since all i have is fraps and it breaks everthing into 8 minute avis |
| 00:51.02 | Skittles | Xd |
| 00:51.25 | Mirvra | fifteen men on a dead mans chest.... yohoho and a bottle of rum? |
| 00:51.37 | Skittles | @.@ |
| 00:51.41 | Skittles | YARGHH |
| 00:51.57 | Vail | hmm |
| 00:52.37 | Skittles | guess ill try xfire |
| 00:52.55 | JManV | i'm gonna kill my computer right now |
| 00:53.04 | JManV | it's going sooooooo... slllllooooowwww.... |
| 00:53.10 | Skittles | Xd |
| 00:53.12 | JManV | omg |
| 00:53.13 | Skittles | ITS ALIVE? |
| 00:53.14 | Skittles | KILL IT |
| 00:53.16 | Skittles | KILL! IT! |
| 00:53.17 | Skittles | AHH |
| 00:53.23 | Stewox | fifteen nails east to west :) |
| 00:53.43 | JManV | i can't even see what's taking up all this ram |
| 00:53.57 | Stewox | wha's wrong jmanv |
| 00:54.27 | JManV | my computer keeps paging out memory |
| 00:54.31 | JManV | and it stalls out for like a minute and a half when it does so |
| 00:54.32 | Stewox | cause i happen to a pc guy i might help |
| 00:54.35 | JManV | it horrible |
| 00:54.43 | JManV | i need more RAM |
| 00:54.46 | JManV | pure and simple |
| 00:54.58 | Mirvra | what do you have? |
| 00:55.07 | JManV | 4G isn't really enough to run the editor and SC2 with IE and a few other things |
| 00:55.14 | Mirvra | ................ |
| 00:55.42 | Mirvra | next you're gonna say you're using a pair of 2Gb 1066mhz or something right? <.< |
| 00:55.52 | Skittles | lol |
| 00:55.55 | Skittles | i've got 3g |
| 00:55.59 | JManV | something like |
| 00:56.05 | Skittles | and i can run the editor + chrome + stem + sc2 |
| 00:56.28 | JManV | hmm |
| 00:56.31 | Skittles | tho It gets a bit laggy if I have my map fully open (triggers + terrain +data + etc.) |
| 00:56.32 | JManV | i keep capping my RAM |
| 00:56.34 | Mirvra | well since 32Bit os can't run more then 3,5Gb i dunno if we've got more then you... |
| 00:56.35 | JManV | its obvious |
| 00:56.55 | JManV | i have win 7 x64 |
| 00:57.00 | Mirvra | ew <.< |
| 00:57.01 | Skittles | i have vista x32 |
| 00:57.05 | Mirvra | eeeeeeeeeeeew <.< |
| 00:57.08 | Skittles | lol |
| 00:57.15 | JManV | super ew |
| 00:57.16 | Mirvra | btw i got Win XP 32Bit..... <.<;; |
| 00:57.19 | JManV | vista 32? |
| 00:57.20 | Skittles | win 7 has to many issues to upgrade to it |
| 00:57.21 | JManV | why |
| 00:57.24 | Skittles | why not |
| 00:57.26 | JManV | why god why? |
| 00:57.28 | Skittles | lol |
| 00:57.36 | Mirvra | how why? |
| 00:57.37 | Skittles | I never had a single issue running a program with vista. |
| 00:57.43 | Skittles | Even tho I got it in 2007 |
| 00:57.48 | Skittles | when people complained a lot |
| 00:58.13 | Mirvra | i dunno anything about problems... i just hate the ''enter your password to use this program'' thingy all the time <.< |
| 00:58.22 | Mirvra | besides -.- |
| 00:58.29 | Shawn|Rawr | Skittles, that's because there are people that know how to use a computer, and there are other people |
| 00:58.36 | Mirvra | the only reason i was trying it out was becuase of directX11 anyways <.< |
| 00:58.41 | Skittles | Shawn what do u record with? |
| 00:58.48 | Shawn|Rawr | camtasia studio |
| 00:58.50 | Stewox | it's just settings guys ... were getting it fixed |
| 00:58.57 | Skittles | Yeah, took me a minute to figure out run as administrator too llol |
| 00:59.00 | JManV | stewox: about twice as long |
| 00:59.12 | Skittles | took me another minute to figure out how to make it so everything runs in administrator ;P |
| 00:59.14 | Shawn|Rawr | But when I tried to record full screen, it refused to show my mouse was moving |
| 00:59.22 | Mirvra | yeah but the run as admin thingy dident work on mine >.<;; |
| 00:59.22 | Shawn|Rawr | May have been the Ultra though |
| 00:59.36 | Skittles | i heard camtasia sucked i think tho |
| 00:59.44 | Skittles | did u have a video with a zealot in it? |
| 00:59.44 | Vesuvius | there's camstudio |
| 00:59.49 | Shawn|Rawr | It did what I wanted |
| 00:59.53 | Skittles | looll |
| 00:59.55 | Vesuvius | xfire is good for in game recordings |
| 01:00.01 | Skittles | yeah trying to dl it now |
| 01:00.05 | Shawn|Rawr | I have Fraps, but my external HDD is broken |
| 01:00.07 | Skittles | but doesn't want to open =( |
| 01:00.19 | Vesuvius | camstudio is good for things xfire won't work in |
| 01:00.26 | Vesuvius | because xfire only runs the screen capture in games |
| 01:00.28 | Vesuvius | pretty dumb imo |
| 01:00.35 | Vesuvius | it's excellent video capture |
| 01:00.44 | Vesuvius | you do have to compress it yourself though |
| 01:00.59 | Skittles | ay xfire is installing now |
| 01:01.12 | Skittles | windows movie maker can compress it right? |
| 01:01.24 | Shawn|Rawr | See.. I don't have the disc space to use camstudio either |
| 01:01.34 | Shawn|Rawr | Camtasia gives me a nice 30mb file max |
| 01:01.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Actually, it might have been 300 when i made a long video |
| 01:03.28 | Skittles | 0.0 |
| 01:04.07 | Shawn|Rawr | Ya. When I use Fraps, i normally throw it into movie maker lol |
| 01:04.19 | Shawn|Rawr | OR just a video converter |
| 01:04.37 | Skittles | mmhmm |
| 01:04.45 | Skittles | movie maker wont play avi files tho? |
| 01:05.32 | JManV | this feels a little more like pallet town, but i don't think i'm there yet: |
| 01:05.33 | JManV | http://i55.tinypic.com/wbc9wx.jpg |
| 01:05.46 | Shawn|Rawr | wow |
| 01:06.15 | Shawn|Rawr | If the buildings were a bit different, I'd swear I was looking at the new pokemon game |
| 01:06.23 | Mirvra | looks abit symmetric o.o |
| 01:06.26 | Skittles | smooth the lake a bit |
| 01:06.41 | JManV | the buildings need more color |
| 01:06.44 | JManV | i know that |
| 01:06.48 | Mirvra | they do? |
| 01:06.49 | JManV | but i'm having trouble getting it |
| 01:06.53 | Skittles | yeah mess with lighting a bit i'd say |
| 01:07.00 | Skittles | make it more of a dust feel |
| 01:07.13 | Skittles | you could make it black and white lol |
| 01:07.14 | JManV | there are so many shadows too |
| 01:07.18 | JManV | pokemon doesn't really have shadows |
| 01:07.31 | Skittles | idk, i kinda like how it feels like pokemon, but not quite pokemon |
| 01:07.48 | JManV | well, yeah, it should be a little more real |
| 01:08.00 | JManV | because your "pokemon" will be marines and zealots and the like |
| 01:08.09 | JManV | well, real as in sci-fi |
| 01:08.18 | Shawn|Rawr | I think the lake bottom should be more of a dead drop rather than trying to make it look realistic |
| 01:08.21 | Skittles | you should add a bunch of short grass |
| 01:08.44 | JManV | short grass? |
| 01:08.48 | Skittles | yeah |
| 01:08.55 | JManV | like texture? |
| 01:08.58 | Skittles | idk if it's just a doodad spammed or what |
| 01:08.59 | JManV | around the buildings |
| 01:09.01 | Skittles | not a texture |
| 01:09.04 | Skittles | it's 3d |
| 01:09.39 | JManV | well, i need it to not be confused with the tall grass, for encounters |
| 01:09.45 | Stewox | are u going to bare and sufffer the lag and resist me , or to take a swift super fix ! ;p |
| 01:09.47 | Skittles | it wont be |
| 01:09.52 | Skittles | tall grass looks totally different |
| 01:10.04 | JManV | dude its actually better |
| 01:10.06 | Skittles | also u sure u want "encounters"? |
| 01:10.19 | JManV | encounters will be real-time |
| 01:10.21 | Skittles | cause if u do that, you need an area for each player |
| 01:10.37 | JManV | you're in the grass, an enemy shows up |
| 01:10.39 | JManV | you fight him |
| 01:10.42 | JManV | all in the grass |
| 01:10.53 | JManV | which is why you switch to a pokemon when you enter the grass |
| 01:11.02 | JManV | so you can fight |
| 01:11.10 | JManV | that's what i'm thinking at least |
| 01:11.11 | Skittles | what button do i use to record with xfire? |
| 01:11.45 | JManV | cuz pushing everything off into a different area doesn't seem efficient |
| 01:12.27 | Skittles | yeah |
| 01:12.37 | Skittles | which is why encounters wouldn't matter |
| 01:12.41 | JManV | so i figured the battles would be real-time, in place |
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| 01:12.43 | Skittles | cause the unit should be there |
| 01:12.47 | Skittles | ahead of time |
| 01:12.52 | JManV | a little slower combat speeds, but more damage |
| 01:12.58 | JManV | giving you time to act in between actions |
| 01:13.06 | JManV | like switch attacks, etc |
| 01:13.18 | JManV | but otherwise, he just fights on his own until his pp is up |
| 01:14.16 | JManV | think that'll work? |
| 01:14.43 | Bibendus|AFK | phew |
| 01:14.43 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 58 minutes 49 seconds |
| 01:14.50 | Bibendus | that was hard |
| 01:14.52 | Skittles | hmm? |
| 01:15.01 | Shawn|Rawr | Thats what she said |
| 01:15.06 | Bibendus | skittles |
| 01:15.09 | Skittles | ja? |
| 01:15.16 | Bibendus | i made a super trigger run |
| 01:15.18 | Bibendus | till now |
| 01:15.26 | Bibendus | that's what i meant with "i have no time" |
| 01:15.27 | Skittles | SUPER ?! |
| 01:15.27 | Bibendus | :D |
| 01:15.32 | Skittles | sure sure |
| 01:15.34 | Shawn|Rawr | Like 150+ actions? |
| 01:15.35 | Skittles | lies. |
| 01:15.50 | Bibendus | sucker |
| 01:15.50 | Bibendus | :D |
| 01:16.01 | Bibendus | moar then 150+ actionz |
| 01:16.06 | Bibendus | tonz |
| 01:16.12 | Skittles | was it not suppose ot run? |
| 01:16.14 | Shawn|Rawr | Well i have 400 points |
| 01:16.14 | Skittles | tpo |
| 01:16.15 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 01:16.23 | Bibendus | then u zuck |
| 01:16.29 | Bibendus | you should create them by triggers somehow |
| 01:16.30 | Bibendus | :D |
| 01:16.37 | Shawn|Rawr | I'd rather zuck than blow |
| 01:16.46 | Shawn|Rawr | And I can't create them by trigger |
| 01:16.54 | Shawn|Rawr | They don't exist until later in the game |
| 01:16.56 | Bibendus | then place your 400 points manually loozer |
| 01:16.56 | Bibendus | :D |
| 01:17.03 | Bibendus | and |
| 01:17.04 | Shawn|Rawr | TOO LATE, ALREADY DID |
| 01:17.06 | Bibendus | u can create points later |
| 01:17.15 | Bibendus | and store them in an array |
| 01:17.18 | Bibendus | or somewhere |
| 01:17.31 | Shawn|Rawr | I need the points to make the buidlings |
| 01:17.32 | Bibendus | btw need 5 minutes of l4d |
| 01:17.32 | Bibendus | :D |
| 01:17.34 | Shawn|Rawr | your logic is wrong |
| 01:17.37 | Bibendus | arrayz |
| 01:17.40 | Bibendus | or |
| 01:17.45 | Bibendus | calculate points |
| 01:17.49 | Bibendus | there must be a way |
| 01:17.52 | Bibendus | to calculate the points |
| 01:17.58 | Shawn|Rawr | The way i did it works |
| 01:17.58 | Bibendus | or they are all just random placed? |
| 01:18.03 | Shawn|Rawr | I placed them myself |
| 01:18.10 | Shawn|Rawr | :) |
| 01:18.16 | Bibendus | bad for deug :D |
| 01:18.25 | Bibendus | if u need to change them |
| 01:18.27 | Bibendus | u are screwed |
| 01:18.27 | Bibendus | :D |
| 01:18.30 | Shawn|Rawr | I can show/hide points |
| 01:18.41 | Shawn|Rawr | And each is named right |
| 01:18.48 | Shawn|Rawr | I know what im doing lol |
| 01:18.54 | Bibendus | that was long |
| 01:18.55 | Bibendus | lol |
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| 01:23.42 | Shawn|Rawr | Bibendus, how many more rooms you got? |
| 01:23.47 | Skittles | back |
| 01:26.21 | Skittles | okay |
| 01:26.24 | Skittles | what do i do with a avi file? |
| 01:28.01 | Skittles | ello? XD |
| 01:28.33 | Xaragoth | you upload it? |
| 01:28.36 | Xaragoth | or rather |
| 01:28.43 | Xaragoth | you make tiny pieces |
| 01:28.50 | Xaragoth | put them through vegas or something |
| 01:28.54 | Xaragoth | and put them on yt |
| 01:28.54 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 01:29.05 | Skittles | wait what? |
| 01:29.16 | Skittles | yt can't read avi files i think? |
| 01:29.23 | Xaragoth | I doubt that |
| 01:29.24 | Skittles | and make tiny pieces wut? Xd |
| 01:29.32 | Xaragoth | because avi is the most used file |
| 01:29.33 | Skittles | wouldn't work for my fraps videos @.@ |
| 01:29.39 | progammer | youtuebe read almost all codec |
| 01:29.46 | Xaragoth | progammer |
| 01:29.51 | Xaragoth | made news content |
| 01:29.53 | Xaragoth | post it |
| 01:29.55 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 01:29.58 | progammer | out of stuff :( |
| 01:30.04 | progammer | you guys are all leaving |
| 01:30.05 | Xaragoth | I posted TWO things |
| 01:30.06 | Xaragoth | D: |
| 01:30.09 | Skittles | wait it's only giving me sound @.@ |
| 01:30.31 | Xaragoth | Still writing up all the content with Otixa |
| 01:30.34 | Xaragoth | for the MC news |
| 01:30.40 | Skittles | would rather my map not be posted til i upload the new video tho >.> |
| 01:30.41 | Xaragoth | also looking around for people on the show |
| 01:30.57 | Bibendus | mm |
| 01:31.06 | progammer | ok i will get that departed thing |
| 01:31.13 | Bibendus | i got |
| 01:31.18 | progammer | Xaragoth: you can news yourself |
| 01:31.19 | Xaragoth | get that icon stuff too from demonette |
| 01:31.21 | Bibendus | library, training room, workshop |
| 01:31.24 | Skittles | wait programmer |
| 01:31.28 | Xaragoth | I don't have the time to be that creative |
| 01:31.29 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 01:31.30 | Skittles | let me upload the new video |
| 01:31.31 | Bibendus | lair hatchery treasury |
| 01:31.36 | progammer | Xaragoth: too lazy to put all the image together |
| 01:31.39 | Skittles | for departed "thing" |
| 01:31.40 | Skittles | lol |
| 01:31.41 | Bibendus | and guard room |
| 01:31.48 | Bibendus | shawn|rawr |
| 01:31.48 | Skittles | but umm |
| 01:31.53 | progammer | Skittles: ok cool i will news it tomorrow |
| 01:31.55 | Skittles | why is this avi file only audio? |
| 01:32.00 | Skittles | kay =D |
| 01:32.19 | Bibendus | progammer in some days i ll need another cheezburger :D |
| 01:32.54 | Shawn|Rawr | So you're close to done then? |
| 01:32.57 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 01:33.19 | Bibendus | half rooms |
| 01:33.23 | Bibendus | btw i don't need them all |
| 01:33.26 | Bibendus | for the next video |
| 01:33.34 | Bibendus | today i made the wall reinforcement additional workstations |
| 01:33.44 | Bibendus | and they work yey |
| 01:34.07 | Bibendus | still need a couple of smal changes |
| 01:34.23 | Bibendus | and i need a good doodad for the training room floor :| |
| 01:36.33 | JManV | interesting |
| 01:36.37 | JManV | day/night huh? |
| 01:36.42 | JManV | i can use that |
| 01:37.26 | JManV | the shadows actually move... that's frickin cool |
| 01:38.02 | Bibendus | btw goin to sleep |
| 01:38.02 | Bibendus | bye |
| 01:40.48 | Skittles | hey programmer |
| 01:40.52 | Skittles | the videos on news are backwards |
| 01:41.07 | Skittles | darkswarm is on the first news and I, mengsk is on the dark swarm news |
| 01:41.34 | Shawn|Rawr | True |
| 01:41.56 | Skittles | lol |
| 01:44.42 | allenmelon | wtf? how did this new jurrassic park map get to the top of the list so suddenly??? |
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| 01:46.23 | Shawn|Rawr | What order do I have to issue to get these marines to go in the bunker? |
| 01:51.33 | Skittles | move targeting building maybe? |
| 01:53.09 | JManV | buildings are just units |
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| 02:11.54 | Skittles | GAH! |
| 02:11.57 | Skittles | CAn't find the damn issue |
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| 02:14.37 | progammer | tét |
| 02:14.38 | progammer | test |
| 02:15.44 | Shawn|Rawr | hi |
| 02:18.15 | Midac | is there any way to change the life armor name? |
| 02:19.11 | Midac | upgrade effect changes the default name even if the unit doesn't have the upgrade |
| 02:19.21 | Keo_ | I have a question |
| 02:19.31 | Keo_ | what are unit groups? are they control groups? |
| 02:19.38 | Keo_ | or can you have more than 10? |
| 02:21.42 | Keo_ | hello |
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| 02:22.05 | Vail | sorry i do not know |
| 02:23.45 | Midac | no, they're not the same as control group |
| 02:25.03 | Skittles | =( |
| 02:25.16 | Skittles | Can't find out how to get my freaking video to show... I can only get the audio to work |
| 02:25.28 | Skittles | Xfire forums are so fucken horrible too |
| 02:25.39 | Skittles | you can only search the entire forum |
| 02:26.40 | Midac | what video? |
| 02:27.28 | Skittles | one i just made |
| 02:27.34 | Skittles | by just i mean like a hour ago |
| 02:27.50 | Skittles | and it's been an hour cause I've been trying to find the dang answer. =( |
| 02:28.48 | Midac | mm and you uploaded it and it it only plays audio? or recorded and didn't get video? |
| 02:29.18 | Skittles | recorded and only got audio |
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| 02:29.22 | Skittles | i know the video is there tho |
| 02:29.30 | Skittles | there's even a sample picture and it's from the game |
| 02:29.51 | Midac | what did you use to record? |
| 02:29.56 | Skittles | xfire |
| 02:30.03 | Skittles | I had this problem with fraps as well tho |
| 02:30.36 | Skizot | merry skizmas! |
| 02:31.39 | Vail | bah humbug |
| 02:32.29 | Midac | hmm did you record fullscreen? |
| 02:33.24 | Skittles | yes |
| 02:33.45 | Midac | try recording windowed and see if you still get black screen |
| 02:34.35 | Skittles | eh |
| 02:35.27 | Skittles | youtube says it didn't recognize the videos codec |
| 02:37.21 | Skittles | am i suppose to encode the video first? |
| 02:38.38 | Midac | You prob get the blackscreen due to missing codecs then |
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| 02:39.51 | Midac | dl k-lite codec pack |
| 02:40.41 | Skittles | think i got it |
| 02:41.21 | Skittles | gah whenever i tell it to encode the video i get a error |
| 02:41.24 | Skittles | i mean |
| 02:41.29 | Skittles | unresponding thingy |
| 02:43.55 | Skittles | brb gonna restart my computer |
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| 02:47.57 | JManV_ | stupid IE |
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| 02:54.25 | onetwo | hi |
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| 02:55.29 | JManV_ | how do |
| 02:57.03 | Shawn|Rawr | onetwo! hi |
| 02:57.42 | onetwo | hi |
| 02:58.24 | Shawn|Rawr | Are you making another tutorial anytime soon? |
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| 03:02.43 | Skittles | hmm |
| 03:05.34 | JManV | indeed. |
| 03:10.26 | JManV | wow. i did something wrong |
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| 03:10.58 | JManV | my day/night lighting effects |
| 03:11.17 | JManV | wen't pitch black at midnight (bad), then whited everything out, then went neon |
| 03:11.29 | JManV | not quite what i was going for |
| 03:11.36 | JManV | something a little more... subtle |
| 03:12.02 | JManV | but... where it works, it's awesome |
| 03:14.39 | Skittles | lol |
| 03:15.03 | JManV | almost there |
| 03:17.36 | JManV | lighting is everything: |
| 03:17.37 | JManV | http://i55.tinypic.com/29wpddw.jpg |
| 03:17.50 | JManV | pallet town :P |
| 03:18.18 | JManV | i've got the shadows actually moving across the course of the day |
| 03:18.34 | onetwo | hmm Shawn |
| 03:18.35 | Shawn|Rawr | water is still a little off on the right |
| 03:18.38 | Shawn|Rawr | but im sure you know |
| 03:18.40 | onetwo | i want to but its time consuming |
| 03:18.44 | onetwo | nothing stand out in my mind atm |
| 03:18.46 | onetwo | unless you have an idea |
| 03:18.48 | onetwo | working on my maps now |
| 03:18.52 | onetwo | and RL stuff |
| 03:19.19 | Shawn|Rawr | Neat. I don't have any ideas, just curious |
| 03:20.43 | onetwo | ahha k |
| 03:20.49 | progammer | onetwo: did you have the tutorial on how to make tutorial yet ? |
| 03:21.02 | onetwo | i was able to test my prisoner rebellion map today with 8 players |
| 03:21.05 | onetwo | got a lot of good feedback |
| 03:21.09 | onetwo | lol what progammer |
| 03:21.30 | progammer | lol yeah the one with how to record, make youtube video etc |
| 03:21.36 | Shawn|Rawr | "Get this program" "Do this thing" "Youtube!" |
| 03:21.59 | onetwo | i cant reveal my secrets |
| 03:22.01 | onetwo | LOL |
| 03:22.17 | onetwo | my secrets involving hitting record and putting a timeline of clips together |
| 03:22.44 | onetwo | but honestly i prefer that other people make text tutorials cause to figure out stuff i just go on sc2mapster and search |
| 03:22.47 | onetwo | video wont help me |
| 03:22.51 | Shawn|Rawr | Which program do you use? |
| 03:22.52 | onetwo | but i prefer making video |
| 03:23.05 | progammer | onetwo: and with text tuts you can copy text |
| 03:23.11 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:23.17 | onetwo | i use fraps to record |
| 03:23.22 | onetwo | but probably camtasia is better |
| 03:23.26 | onetwo | but i dont own it |
| 03:23.32 | progammer | while it is painful to watch 720p just so you can read text |
| 03:23.36 | Shawn|Rawr | Haha! That's what I was saying earlier |
| 03:24.13 | onetwo | man itll be nice when next patches popularity goes into effect |
| 03:24.23 | onetwo | encourages me to keep people playing rather than make a shorter game |
| 03:24.30 | onetwo | most of my maps are maps that you can play for 30 mins to an hour |
| 03:24.31 | onetwo | in one sitting |
| 03:24.39 | onetwo | and are 9 players+ |
| 03:24.45 | progammer | onetwo: jan 2 |
| 03:24.49 | onetwo | cool |
| 03:24.56 | progammer | or 3 |
| 03:25.02 | progammer | first business day after new year |
| 03:25.05 | onetwo | perfect... right when school starts |
| 03:25.06 | onetwo | ... |
| 03:25.07 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:25.08 | Shawn|Rawr | Shouldn't you put a disclaimer on that prog? |
| 03:25.17 | progammer | cause i dont have source :P |
| 03:25.17 | onetwo | he doesnt have to |
| 03:25.22 | onetwo | have you noticed blizz is on time on stuff now? |
| 03:25.24 | progammer | actually i do |
| 03:25.30 | progammer | wait a moment |
| 03:25.39 | onetwo | WoW and pre WoW = blizz delays releases but makes amazing blow your mind shit |
| 03:25.42 | Shawn|Rawr | You have that one link I sent you |
| 03:25.49 | onetwo | post-WoW they are on time on releases but your mind is no longer blown |
| 03:25.56 | onetwo | and you might be annoyed by one or two features such as popularity |
| 03:26.11 | progammer | onetwo: it does BLOW my mind |
| 03:26.21 | onetwo | just like you morally blew this channel |
| 03:26.22 | onetwo | ? |
| 03:26.26 | progammer | on how on earth could they keep that in |
| 03:26.55 | progammer | ok source here |
| 03:26.57 | progammer | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1568008036 |
| 03:27.19 | Shawn|Rawr | In other words, your source is the link i sent you |
| 03:27.21 | Shawn|Rawr | ;) |
| 03:27.46 | progammer | no my source is a blizzard employee |
| 03:27.52 | progammer | you're nobody :P |
| 03:27.54 | Skittles | I hate xfire |
| 03:27.56 | Skittles | I hate fraps |
| 03:28.00 | Skittles | I hate every thing. |
| 03:28.01 | Skittles | =( |
| 03:28.04 | progammer | i hate ppl on the internet |
| 03:28.09 | Skittles | Aye! |
| 03:28.21 | Skittles | That's why you rejected the r. |
| 03:28.38 | progammer | intenet |
| 03:28.44 | progammer | intelnet |
| 03:28.50 | progammer | unintelnet |
| 03:29.16 | Skittles | ? |
| 03:29.17 | progammer | stupidnet for short |
| 03:29.23 | Skittles | pretty much |
| 03:29.27 | onetwo | did the chat channel spam filter improve |
| 03:29.50 | Skittles | last i heard they reduced the time from 20 seconds to 10 seconds |
| 03:30.00 | Shawn|Rawr | ^ I heard that |
| 03:30.04 | Skittles | onetwo, what recorder do you use? |
| 03:30.05 | onetwo | wow thats it |
| 03:30.09 | Shawn|Rawr | Fraps |
| 03:30.10 | progammer | the number of msg is still the same |
| 03:30.13 | onetwo | it needs to be like Counter Strike servers |
| 03:30.20 | onetwo | they have their spam filter way better |
| 03:30.22 | onetwo | you just cant type fast |
| 03:30.25 | onetwo | but you can type lots |
| 03:30.32 | Skittles | uuh |
| 03:30.36 | Skittles | Idk |
| 03:30.47 | Skittles | 3 messages in 10 seconds isn't very much even if u type a lot. |
| 03:30.53 | progammer | actually i have this awesome idea by faking lag and delay your message appearence |
| 03:30.53 | onetwo | is there still spam filter on private ones? |
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| 03:31.09 | Skittles | So pro. |
| 03:31.11 | Skittles | lol |
| 03:31.41 | XenoX101 | halo |
| 03:31.49 | Skittles | But I need a fucken recorder that works. =( |
| 03:31.51 | onetwo | halo 4 |
| 03:32.02 | Skittles | Wegame is the only one I've gotten to work so far and it's quality is horrible. |
| 03:32.19 | Shawn|Rawr | If you have the HDD space, Fraps is the best |
| 03:32.25 | XenoX101 | flaps are great |
| 03:32.27 | XenoX101 | I mean what |
| 03:32.37 | Skittles | Fraps is limited to like 1 minute... also I can't get the files to work |
| 03:32.47 | Skittles | Idk what to do with the avi files |
| 03:32.55 | Skittles | encode it? |
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| 03:33.08 | XenoX101 | bark at it, VERY LOUDLY |
| 03:33.22 | progammer | fraps 1min is the free version |
| 03:33.24 | Skittles | not in mood for sarcasm tbh |
| 03:33.32 | Skittles | who pays 35 dollars @.@ |
| 03:33.41 | Vail | there are Other ways |
| 03:33.48 | progammer | but yeah who pays 35 dollar |
| 03:33.49 | progammer | on the internet |
| 03:33.50 | Skittles | piratesbay.org? |
| 03:33.52 | progammer | for a software |
| 03:33.56 | Vail | think like a sith only pay for what you HAVE to |
| 03:34.02 | progammer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.17 | Skittles | either way i had the same amount of luck for frap movie files as I do on xfire |
| 03:34.54 | XenoX101 | brb |
| 03:35.05 | Skittles | xfire I at least found a encoder that would probably solve my issue... it just didn't do anything but unrespond tho. Xd |
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| 03:35.31 | XenoX101 | why do they keep releasing new versions of mIRC |
| 03:35.37 | XenoX101 | what could they possibly be improving on |
| 03:35.49 | Vail | the cost? |
| 03:35.49 | Midac | try opening the vid with wmm or other video editing software and save it again |
| 03:35.52 | Skittles | mIRC? |
| 03:36.10 | XenoX101 | I really hope you know what mIRC is |
| 03:36.18 | XenoX101 | otherwise you kind of lose at the internet |
| 03:36.44 | onetwo | i use the web version to join irc |
| 03:36.47 | onetwo | webchat |
| 03:36.48 | onetwo | so easy |
| 03:36.54 | onetwo | and i like the pingining and colors |
| 03:36.58 | onetwo | pinging* |
| 03:37.07 | Vail | i use kvIRC |
| 03:37.26 | onetwo | i think i need to brand myself more |
| 03:37.30 | onetwo | onetwo branded recording tool |
| 03:37.33 | onetwo | onetwo branded irc client |
| 03:37.39 | onetwo | what else can i invest in |
| 03:37.43 | Shawn|Rawr | onetwo branded t-pain autotune |
| 03:37.46 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:37.48 | onetwo | i mean |
| 03:37.51 | onetwo | shotayyyy yeeeeeaaa |
| 03:37.53 | progammer | i dont like the mIRC look either |
| 03:38.04 | Vail | onetwo branded moute sticthes? |
| 03:38.08 | Vail | mouth* |
| 03:38.12 | onetwo | onetwo branded microphone |
| 03:38.15 | XenoX101 | mIRC looks pleasantly dated |
| 03:38.21 | onetwo | kind of like my exwife |
| 03:38.23 | XenoX101 | the lack of username colouring |
| 03:38.24 | onetwo | zinggg |
| 03:38.29 | progammer | onetwo branded number 12 t-shirt |
| 03:38.30 | XenoX101 | the lack of any alignment |
| 03:38.33 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:38.53 | XenoX101 | the hilarious fixdsys default font |
| 03:39.00 | XenoX101 | fixedsys* |
| 03:39.20 | XenoX101 | makes you look like you're coding in the 80's |
| 03:39.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:39.37 | Skittles | onetwo tools |
| 03:39.48 | onetwo | lol ill release an all in one package |
| 03:39.49 | progammer | i have a strong feelings for the number zero with a slash inside |
| 03:39.49 | onetwo | recorder |
| 03:39.50 | onetwo | editor |
| 03:39.57 | onetwo | and uploader to youtube |
| 03:40.03 | Shawn|Rawr | Starcraft 2 OneTwo Collector's Edition |
| 03:40.06 | onetwo | HAHA |
| 03:40.08 | onetwo | a big smiley face on it |
| 03:40.10 | Vail | how about OneTwo brand asswhop in a can? |
| 03:40.11 | XenoX101 | progammer, true, that is a great design choice |
| 03:40.23 | onetwo | http://i3.ytimg.com/i/2poAt8eAOa3f8JrmdVKuQA/1.jpg?v=91467c |
| 03:40.48 | progammer | onetwo: replace the eyes with 1 and 2 |
| 03:40.49 | Skittles | hmm |
| 03:40.50 | progammer | more personal |
| 03:40.58 | XenoX101 | hey progammer when the mouse tracker comes out will I be able to simply make my data spells become triggered by them? |
| 03:41.04 | Vail | i can see that replacing the Laughing Man logo from GiTS |
| 03:41.09 | XenoX101 | like create effect - spell X? |
| 03:41.18 | progammer | XenoX101: probably |
| 03:41.34 | progammer | depends on which kind of spell |
| 03:41.35 | progammer | complicated attachement cant be done by trigger |
| 03:41.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:41.39 | onetwo | do we know bnet performance |
| 03:41.40 | onetwo | on it? |
| 03:41.45 | XenoX101 | ah k |
| 03:41.46 | progammer | i cant test it |
| 03:41.54 | Tordy | what are we talkin about |
| 03:41.54 | onetwo | youre not hacking hard enough |
| 03:42.01 | Skittles | I would think they would no longer release ghetto stuff |
| 03:42.02 | progammer | onetwo: mapcraft ? |
| 03:42.07 | onetwo | what? |
| 03:42.22 | progammer | onetwo: get on bnet and switch it/ test with me now |
| 03:42.38 | onetwo | we cant though right? |
| 03:42.51 | progammer | if i can find the PTR map cache |
| 03:42.56 | progammer | cant though |
| 03:43.01 | onetwo | so what am i doing |
| 03:43.17 | progammer | sit here and talk thrash :P |
| 03:43.20 | onetwo | kk |
| 03:43.50 | Vail | i figured out the problem with my summoner hero so he is nolonger pushed around by his summons |
| 03:43.51 | Tordy | should i buy minecraft |
| 03:43.54 | Tordy | last day to buy it |
| 03:43.57 | progammer | btw who here play LoL |
| 03:44.03 | progammer | looks better then my expectation |
| 03:44.14 | Tordy | it's the only thing my brother plays |
| 03:44.43 | progammer | its just like dota |
| 03:44.45 | progammer | so yeah |
| 03:44.46 | Shawn|Rawr | Cause he sucks at DotA? |
| 03:44.55 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 03:44.59 | progammer | lol is less hardcore then dota |
| 03:45.09 | progammer | hon is like a direct dota copy |
| 03:45.10 | onetwo | whats mine craft |
| 03:45.12 | Skizot | VOTE TIME! : who thinks i should make a new video of my map at it's current stage? |
| 03:45.37 | Tordy | well it's cool there's variety, instead of stuff just straightup copying dota |
| 03:45.38 | Shawn|Rawr | hon = dota = icefrog = dota2 |
| 03:45.46 | progammer | voted don't care |
| 03:45.49 | Tordy | one dota is enough |
| 03:45.54 | Tordy | but ther'es like |
| 03:45.55 | Tordy | 10 |
| 03:46.00 | Vail | raises hand, sees no one else do it, feels akward, lowers hand |
| 03:46.03 | progammer | dotd |
| 03:46.07 | Tordy | purl who is progammer |
| 03:46.07 | purl | methinks progammer is a guy who will kick you in the balls before you know what happened |
| 03:46.08 | progammer | defense of the dotas |
| 03:46.40 | onetwo | oh i thought mine craft was mod craft for some reason |
| 03:46.47 | onetwo | two separate things i see now |
| 03:46.50 | Tordy | too mny crafts! |
| 03:46.51 | progammer | ~progammer is not programmer |
| 03:46.51 | purl | ...but progammer is already something else... |
| 03:46.58 | progammer | ~forget progammer |
| 03:46.58 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'progammer ' to forget, progammer |
| 03:47.02 | Tordy | what's next |
| 03:47.04 | Tordy | purlcraft? |
| 03:47.11 | Tordy | onetwocraft? |
| 03:47.14 | Tordy | progammercraft |
| 03:47.23 | progammer | gammcraft |
| 03:47.26 | Shawn|Rawr | JS RushCraft |
| 03:47.29 | Shawn|Rawr | I love it |
| 03:47.30 | Tordy | asscraft |
| 03:48.01 | progammer | crapcraft |
| 03:48.08 | Vail | Vailcraft Limited collecertors ultimate edition gamestop only special |
| 03:48.13 | Tordy | is there something called mathcraft yet |
| 03:48.19 | Tordy | damit |
| 03:48.24 | Tordy | there's a melee map called mathcraft |
| 03:48.26 | Tordy | that doenst make any sense |
| 03:48.59 | Tordy | maybe ill call it logiccraft |
| 03:49.01 | Tordy | nah too lame |
| 03:49.08 | Tordy | arithmeticraft! |
| 03:49.09 | Shawn|Rawr | BrainCraft |
| 03:49.11 | Tordy | sweet |
| 03:49.13 | Tordy | what no |
| 03:49.18 | Tordy | braincraft is too general |
| 03:49.27 | progammer | mindfuckcraft |
| 03:49.29 | Tordy | im makign a specifically arithmetic & logic based map |
| 03:49.40 | Vail | yecuk |
| 03:49.46 | Tordy | DICKCRAFT |
| 03:49.47 | Vail | mathe and logic ew |
| 03:49.51 | Tordy | gross |
| 03:50.04 | onetwo | onetwocraftopsstrikewarscounterblacknightravendutystormhawkattackcallstrikefieldworld |
| 03:50.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster Computerpunk (~Computerp@85.186.122.45) |
| 03:50.12 | onetwo | im guaranteed a huge market with that name |
| 03:50.15 | Tordy | world of warCRAFT |
| 03:50.26 | Skittles | Progammer, do you really think you play games as a profession? :p |
| 03:50.28 | Vail | Craft Of World War |
| 03:50.33 | Tordy | ProfessionalCraft |
| 03:50.43 | Tordy | SkittlesCraft |
| 03:50.50 | Skittles | Sounds delicious |
| 03:50.56 | Tordy | guys help me think of a good -Craft name |
| 03:50.58 | Vail | LauraCraft>..> |
| 03:51.04 | Tordy | >:[ |
| 03:51.05 | onetwo | fartcraft |
| 03:51.06 | Vail | expects incoming trout |
| 03:51.08 | Shawn|Rawr | SexCraft |
| 03:51.19 | onetwo | how else can i degrade this convo |
| 03:51.20 | onetwo | hmm |
| 03:51.33 | onetwo | guess ill whine about popularity |
| 03:51.39 | onetwo | calls Colt |
| 03:51.46 | Vail | oh come on THAT is a GREAT bad pun |
| 03:52.40 | Shawn|Rawr | I like bacon |
| 03:53.09 | Tordy | i hate how the simpsons has so many commercials |
| 03:53.46 | onetwo | it sucks, most of the shows like family guy and simpsons |
| 03:53.48 | onetwo | arent funny anymore |
| 03:53.51 | onetwo | they ran outa material |
| 03:53.55 | onetwo | and brilliant writers gone i guess... |
| 03:53.56 | Tordy | yes |
| 03:54.05 | onetwo | its AMAZING when you watch old simpsons |
| 03:54.07 | Tordy | simpsons turned shit 10 years ago |
| 03:54.09 | onetwo | the jokes are insanely good |
| 03:54.17 | Tordy | best seasons are seasons 3 to 9 |
| 03:54.21 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:54.26 | onetwo | now its just south park |
| 03:54.28 | onetwo | thats all thats left |
| 03:54.29 | Tordy | they should just let it die now |
| 03:54.35 | Tordy | before it shames it longer |
| 03:54.38 | onetwo | rest is just defacto 2.5 men/friends comedy |
| 03:54.52 | onetwo | agreed |
| 03:55.35 | Tordy | so |
| 03:55.42 | Tordy | what are we talkin about |
| 03:55.48 | Tordy | didnt you guys have a crazy map project |
| 03:55.52 | Tordy | cmon spill the beans! |
| 03:55.56 | onetwo | the feds broke it off |
| 03:55.59 | Tordy | :[ |
| 03:56.06 | onetwo | anderson cooper caught our underground mapping tunnel |
| 03:56.10 | Shawn|Rawr | How they should only give people map space if they open the editor |
| 03:56.10 | onetwo | we were shipping maps from mexico |
| 03:56.13 | Shawn|Rawr | :/ |
| 03:56.25 | onetwo | yeah instead of allocating 10MBx10 for every account |
| 03:56.29 | onetwo | give everyone 0 MB |
| 03:56.31 | onetwo | and if you upload |
| 03:56.34 | onetwo | give you enough space for that 1 |
| 03:56.35 | onetwo | at a time |
| 03:56.50 | onetwo | i mean my maps each use like 1 MB |
| 03:56.55 | onetwo | but it takes up 10MB slot for me... |
| 03:57.56 | onetwo | is there any way to figure out what the dialog is that a dialog item is on? |
| 03:58.56 | Skittles | okay |
| 03:59.01 | Skittles | I just made a video with fraps. |
| 03:59.05 | Skittles | What do I do with the file? |
| 03:59.14 | Keo_ | What is weapon backswing? |
| 03:59.31 | onetwo | you can drag the file into a video editing program |
| 03:59.36 | onetwo | or windows movie maker if youre going basic |
| 03:59.41 | onetwo | watch it to make sure its good |
| 03:59.46 | onetwo | and then render out to like WMV |
| 03:59.47 | onetwo | or MOV |
| 03:59.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster wacko (~wacko@ip68-101-126-242.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 03:59.55 | onetwo | cause fraps is uncompressed AVI |
| 03:59.59 | onetwo | :/ |
| 04:00.03 | onetwo | hi wacko |
| 04:00.10 | wacko | hi |
| 04:00.29 | wacko | hows it going? |
| 04:00.35 | Skittles | It's just a black screen with audio tho? |
| 04:00.40 | onetwo | good, i was testing my prisoner rebellion/sheep tag map today with an IRL friend |
| 04:00.46 | onetwo | and i invited someone else |
| 04:00.50 | onetwo | and then he invited like 6 friends |
| 04:00.53 | onetwo | was awesome to test a full house |
| 04:00.54 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:01.12 | onetwo | gotta disable my dialog buttons after people click, delay of bnet = multi heros spawned |
| 04:01.15 | onetwo | how about you? |
| 04:01.28 | Skittles | onetwo? |
| 04:01.37 | onetwo | Hmm Skittles, that means you dont have the codec to view the AVI |
| 04:01.37 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 04:01.37 | Skittles | My screen is black when i play the video |
| 04:01.39 | onetwo | fraps should install it |
| 04:01.43 | Skittles | Xd |
| 04:01.44 | onetwo | try playing with a diff video player? |
| 04:01.51 | Skittles | Same thing happened with xfire. |
| 04:01.56 | Skittles | Wont work I bet. |
| 04:02.07 | onetwo | how about you wacko * |
| 04:02.25 | progammer | anyone here play HON |
| 04:02.25 | Skittles | ah it worked with VLC |
| 04:02.28 | Skittles | didn't use to do that |
| 04:02.29 | wacko | I am not doing too bad :P |
| 04:02.31 | progammer | i needs to know what the editor can do |
| 04:02.36 | wacko | lol |
| 04:02.42 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:02.50 | wacko | why progammer ? |
| 04:03.01 | Skittles | okay but how do I use this file in a editing program? |
| 04:03.01 | onetwo | the HON editor? |
| 04:03.01 | progammer | see how complex it can do |
| 04:03.07 | progammer | onetwo: yep |
| 04:03.15 | Skittles | or even tho it doesn't show up in windows movie player, will it still work? |
| 04:03.16 | onetwo | meh im guessing it wont come close to blizz's |
| 04:03.28 | onetwo | SKittles I think so, as long as you have a good editing program |
| 04:03.31 | progammer | onetwo: it cant, that's why i'm curious |
| 04:03.36 | onetwo | final cut pro, sony vegas, adobe premiere |
| 04:03.39 | Skittles | editing program Xd |
| 04:03.40 | onetwo | but you can try windows movie maker |
| 04:03.43 | Skittles | What's a good free one! |
| 04:03.44 | Skittles | XD |
| 04:03.56 | Skittles | wont work it only lets me drag to the audio |
| 04:03.58 | onetwo | dont know ive been on vegas for quite a while |
| 04:04.03 | progammer | notepad + paint + window movie maker = internet |
| 04:04.49 | Skittles | mmk |
| 04:06.14 | Tordy | mmmmmmmmik |
| 04:06.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (~skizot@226-187.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 04:06.40 | Skittles | what's it called onetwo? |
| 04:06.42 | Skittles | vegas pro? |
| 04:07.51 | onetwo | yes |
| 04:08.02 | onetwo | imo greatest |
| 04:08.20 | Shawn|Rawr | camtasia has its own editor |
| 04:08.23 | Shawn|Rawr | :P |
| 04:08.36 | Skittles | alright |
| 04:08.38 | Tordy | how's nba2k1 |
| 04:08.48 | Skittles | I'm so not going to pirate it though, I'm a good boy. |
| 04:08.55 | Tordy | hows nba2k11 |
| 04:09.16 | XenoX101 | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/16045-complete-noobs-guide-to-dota-style-maps-part-1/#p2 |
| 04:09.21 | XenoX101 | remind me to kill this person when I have the chance |
| 04:09.31 | onetwo | why |
| 04:09.41 | XenoX101 | does it really need explaining? |
| 04:09.51 | XenoX101 | what do you think will come of this? |
| 04:10.04 | Tordy | more Dota hooray! |
| 04:10.07 | onetwo | hey at this point id rather have dota maps with heros than a map that autotrains units called TUG |
| 04:10.09 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:10.38 | onetwo | i really want to see blizz dota for item interface |
| 04:10.42 | Skittles | lol |
| 04:10.45 | onetwo | i want to switch my map to using dialogs but its hard |
| 04:10.48 | Skittles | eh still tho |
| 04:10.49 | onetwo | cause i have items that target |
| 04:10.56 | Skittles | i hate dota being item and gank based |
| 04:11.01 | Skittles | neither is fun imo |
| 04:11.22 | XenoX101 | Dota isn't the problem |
| 04:11.22 | Tordy | ballin! |
| 04:11.30 | XenoX101 | its Dota v194571.3038 billion thats the problem |
| 04:11.35 | Skittles | blah balh |
| 04:11.58 | XenoX101 | so many wastes of space, and what the hell does their map provide that Sotis doesn't? |
| 04:12.03 | Skittles | are you trying to say that |
| 04:12.08 | Skittles | zombies are over used too?! |
| 04:12.12 | Skittles | How dare you! |
| 04:12.13 | Xapti | yeah I hate the tug maps |
| 04:12.16 | Xapti | even desert strike |
| 04:12.25 | Skittles | What is sotis anyway. ;P |
| 04:12.29 | Xapti | i mean desert strike is nice, and it's probably the best tug game |
| 04:12.30 | onetwo | i personally do not prefer them either |
| 04:12.31 | XenoX101 | Skittles, thats not the same at all, zombies are simply a unit |
| 04:12.37 | Xapti | but like there's no micro |
| 04:12.37 | onetwo | coming from war3, tug maps are a bit too simple imo |
| 04:12.44 | Xapti | so so many units become useles |
| 04:12.50 | onetwo | im used to advanced TDs like SKibis, RPGs with save and load |
| 04:12.56 | Skittles | Lies, my map doesn't simply have units or zombies. IT IS GODLY ZOMBIES! RAWR |
| 04:12.58 | onetwo | and then sc2 is tug games and a few TDs |
| 04:12.59 | Skittles | NOM NOM NOM |
| 04:12.59 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:13.00 | Xapti | and it just games don to building up conomy and macroing units that can just be effective at A-moving |
| 04:13.15 | Skizot | okay. |
| 04:13.20 | Skizot | filiming my map. |
| 04:13.24 | XenoX101 | Tug succeeds because its the lazy man's SC2 |
| 04:13.28 | Skizot | but YOU heathens don't get to see it. |
| 04:13.28 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:13.34 | XenoX101 | you have your economy, you have your units, you have your production |
| 04:13.42 | XenoX101 | just don't worry about supply and unit control |
| 04:13.45 | XenoX101 | we'll do that for you |
| 04:14.03 | Xapti | it's not even the lazy man's SC2, it's the newbie's SC2 |
| 04:14.22 | XenoX101 | almost one in the same |
| 04:14.40 | Xapti | lazy man gives it too much credit IMO |
| 04:15.02 | XenoX101 | true, it is far more linear |
| 04:15.15 | Xapti | First several times i played SOTIS I didn't care for it |
| 04:15.20 | XenoX101 | they went so far as to go, "you know what, the nice countering mechanics of melee? they're a bit too complex" |
| 04:15.29 | Xapti | but then I really started to like it and played it quite a bit |
| 04:15.31 | XenoX101 | "lets just make units gradually increase in price and power" |
| 04:15.59 | Xapti | One of the problems with SOTIS is how it's a very latency-dependant game though, and SC2's latency is terrible |
| 04:16.02 | XenoX101 | Sotis is fine, if people want to play another dota clone all the power to them |
| 04:16.09 | XenoX101 | but we dont need another 500 clones to go with it |
| 04:16.12 | Xapti | I don't like star battle too much |
| 04:16.21 | Xapti | it's a great game, but it's too casual for me |
| 04:16.37 | Xapti | slow, not that action packed, almost no micro involved |
| 04:16.40 | Skittles | mmmmmmhmmmmmmmmm |
| 04:16.43 | XenoX101 | and I'm not trying to be harsh, but I really don't think most any mapmaker out there can compete with Sotis in the dota department |
| 04:17.01 | Xapti | what about Blizzard DoTA |
| 04:17.07 | XenoX101 | mapmakeR |
| 04:17.10 | XenoX101 | not mapmakers |
| 04:17.21 | XenoX101 | and blizzard are a whole other kettle of fish |
| 04:17.26 | Xapti | yeah |
| 04:17.32 | XenoX101 | I really wish they didn't do that though |
| 04:17.38 | onetwo | im impressed ekcol could finish sotis so fast |
| 04:17.38 | XenoX101 | I thought they stood for innovation and creativity |
| 04:17.40 | onetwo | my rpg is still in progress |
| 04:17.41 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:17.42 | XenoX101 | not regurgitation |
| 04:17.44 | Skittles | Is soltis really even that special? |
| 04:17.47 | Xapti | I think SotIS can be just as successful or even better |
| 04:17.54 | Skittles | when i played, nothing seemed that great. @.@ |
| 04:17.56 | Xapti | if they take stuff from what blizzard DotA will have |
| 04:18.00 | onetwo | sotis is special when you compare it to other popular maps |
| 04:18.07 | onetwo | sotis is an example of a well made map with depth that stayed popular |
| 04:18.07 | Xapti | that's what I felt like at first too skittles |
| 04:18.13 | onetwo | as opposed to so many others |
| 04:18.14 | Skittles | Taht says very little tho onetwo |
| 04:18.20 | Skittles | that* |
| 04:18.24 | onetwo | war3 was a much harder game |
| 04:18.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Agouti (~Agouti@d122-104-252-168.sbr30.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 04:18.28 | onetwo | the map quality was insanely higher |
| 04:18.34 | onetwo | because by default you were given a lot |
| 04:18.38 | Agouti | purl: what is onetwo |
| 04:18.38 | purl | Agouti: what are you talking about? |
| 04:18.41 | Agouti | pah |
| 04:18.42 | onetwo | but now you have to make everything from scratch and sc doesnt cater to heroes |
| 04:18.53 | XenoX101 | The only real advantage I can see with Sotis is the fact that SC2's map editor is advanced enough that you could create abilities otherwise never seen in Dota |
| 04:19.01 | Agouti | purl: onetwo is just before threefor |
| 04:19.01 | purl | Agouti: okay |
| 04:19.02 | onetwo | yeah |
| 04:19.02 | XenoX101 | but I'm not sure if they're doing that |
| 04:19.07 | Xapti | well, WC3 there was a development period too I assume |
| 04:19.10 | Shawn|Rawr | purl onetwo is a tutorial making machine with the sexiest voice ever |
| 04:19.10 | purl | ...but onetwo is already something else... |
| 04:19.12 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 04:19.15 | Shawn|Rawr | Awww |
| 04:19.19 | Agouti | wut |
| 04:19.20 | Xapti | SC2 is still pretty new, so there's a lot more time to develop better stuff |
| 04:19.25 | onetwo | ROFL OWNED |
| 04:19.25 | Agouti | purl what is onetwo |
| 04:19.25 | purl | onetwo is probably just before threefor |
| 04:19.27 | Skittles | you guys are weird. |
| 04:19.29 | onetwo | hahah |
| 04:19.36 | Xapti | *had a development period |
| 04:19.39 | Skittles | Warcraft 3 had a ton of things the user had to work around too. |
| 04:19.48 | Skittles | For instance, points, mui, etc. |
| 04:19.49 | Agouti | purl: forget onetwo |
| 04:19.49 | purl | Agouti: i forgot onetwo |
| 04:19.54 | Agouti | purl onetwo is a tutorial making machine with the sexiest voice ever |
| 04:19.54 | purl | Agouti: okay |
| 04:19.58 | Agouti | ^__^ |
| 04:20.04 | Shawn|Rawr | Sweet |
| 04:20.05 | onetwo | war3 did indeed take time |
| 04:20.11 | onetwo | because pre frozen throne editor was too simple |
| 04:20.15 | onetwo | but considering we have that base now |
| 04:20.18 | onetwo | and it shows on sc2mapster |
| 04:20.20 | Xapti | yeah |
| 04:20.22 | onetwo | something that never existed in war3 |
| 04:20.29 | Skittles | can't wait til wc4 |
| 04:20.29 | Skittles | lol |
| 04:20.30 | XenoX101 | really though, SC2's editor is like a high maintenance girlfriend who won't put out unless you cook her lobster and serve it with vintage wine |
| 04:20.36 | Skittles | just imagine that editor. |
| 04:20.39 | onetwo | its HARD to stay motivated for months |
| 04:20.40 | onetwo | on a map |
| 04:20.44 | Agouti | xen: yeah, thats fair |
| 04:20.45 | XenoX101 | and if you get the year wrong, or overcook the lobster, bam, you get nothing |
| 04:20.53 | XenoX101 | the year of the wine* |
| 04:20.54 | wacko | lol |
| 04:20.55 | Agouti | it's worse than nothing |
| 04:20.59 | Agouti | it's just silence |
| 04:21.00 | Skittles | lol |
| 04:21.00 | progammer | ppl are just being mean and leaving :( |
| 04:21.02 | progammer | nothing wrong with sc2 |
| 04:21.05 | Xapti | I have an issue with everyone making WASD games when SC2 can't (and maybe not for a long time) support low-latency effective WASD movement support) |
| 04:21.05 | Agouti | you'll say hi honey |
| 04:21.09 | Agouti | and she will just look at you |
| 04:21.14 | onetwo | yeah by all means we love the editor |
| 04:21.24 | Xapti | Obviously the single player games are find for WASD, but not for multiplayer |
| 04:21.26 | onetwo | just takes time |
| 04:21.28 | Xapti | *fine |
| 04:21.32 | Agouti | the editor is a hot but incredibly bitchy |
| 04:21.35 | XenoX101 | like we love our father even though he beat us repeatedly into submission |
| 04:21.38 | wacko | lol |
| 04:21.39 | Agouti | perfectionist |
| 04:21.40 | Skittles | only thing I hate about sc2 is having no clans, cause it means your completely friend oriented, if your friend stops you get bored as well. |
| 04:21.48 | onetwo | chat channels may help |
| 04:21.49 | progammer | well i heard bdot was lag at blizzcon |
| 04:21.50 | onetwo | especially for testing |
| 04:21.52 | progammer | bdota |
| 04:21.53 | onetwo | with random peeps at 1Am |
| 04:21.56 | Xapti | they will add clans eventualy |
| 04:21.59 | Agouti | purl: what is galaxy edit? |
| 04:22.00 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Agouti |
| 04:22.06 | XenoX101 | durrrrr |
| 04:22.06 | Agouti | i see an opening |
| 04:22.17 | Xapti | I'm pissed off that Blizzard didn't make an official galaxy editor for release |
| 04:22.21 | Xapti | i mean wiki |
| 04:22.22 | wacko | lol |
| 04:22.32 | XenoX101 | yeah especially with the data editor |
| 04:22.35 | Xapti | and add some of their own info too it |
| 04:22.46 | progammer | wacko: needs more than randomly lol |
| 04:22.49 | wacko | someday lol |
| 04:22.49 | Xapti | because there's so much missing info on tooltips, and tooltips can only do too much |
| 04:22.55 | wacko | reading this is all funny |
| 04:22.56 | XenoX101 | there are just SO many types of objects that are unguessable and don't work the way you'd assume they'd work |
| 04:23.00 | XenoX101 | or don't work* |
| 04:23.17 | XenoX101 | its like "why is this even here" |
| 04:23.20 | Skittles | They should of at least released the uberlisk from blizzcon |
| 04:23.38 | Xapti | like just recently, I realized that you can't set a variable unit/point/region for "unit enters/leaves region/unit/point" event |
| 04:23.42 | wacko | they can't Skittles it required a version of the game thats not out :P |
| 04:23.43 | Vesuvius | the blizz dota hero? |
| 04:23.55 | Xapti | IMO that seems pretty dumb, but I guess it's an engine/lag limitatin |
| 04:24.05 | Skittles | remake it i say! |
| 04:24.10 | progammer | most of the stuff that shows for fun are done on another engine |
| 04:24.21 | progammer | which you cant run with current patch |
| 04:24.25 | XenoX101 | no that is ridiculous Xapti |
| 04:24.32 | Skittles | they said it took him like 3 hours to make the uberlisk, and that was without knowing what to make him do |
| 04:24.35 | wacko | well if anything it was to show stuff you could do |
| 04:24.37 | XenoX101 | and its these things that I don't see why they would do |
| 04:24.46 | wacko | I mean in 1.2 you can do everything they showed |
| 04:24.47 | Xapti | yeah I tend to side with you |
| 04:24.49 | XenoX101 | these random limitations |
| 04:24.54 | wacko | and all the UI shit |
| 04:25.14 | XenoX101 | I'm so surprised that they didn't have mouse tracking before patch 1.2 |
| 04:25.15 | onetwo | [20:22] <Xapti> I'm pissed off that Blizzard didn't make an official galaxy editor for release |
| 04:25.18 | Keo_ | Whats the trigger for making a unit dance? |
| 04:25.19 | onetwo | yeah too bad no galaxy editor |
| 04:25.20 | XenoX101 | like, how many maps would use that? |
| 04:25.22 | Skittles | 0.0 |
| 04:25.23 | onetwo | its a shame we have no editor at all |
| 04:25.25 | XenoX101 | probably 1/3 or something |
| 04:25.27 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:25.38 | wacko | well it comes down to a couple things XenoX101 |
| 04:25.41 | Keo_ | Hello |
| 04:25.47 | Keo_ | How do you make a unit dance with triggers? |
| 04:25.54 | Agouti | purl, what is xenox |
| 04:25.55 | purl | rumour has it, xenox is a person who is very confused by actor events |
| 04:25.55 | wacko | #1 time... I mean they did need to ship a game |
| 04:26.09 | wacko | #2 they had no reason for it, there is nothing in the game that needs it |
| 04:26.11 | Skittles | purl, what is skittles |
| 04:26.12 | purl | skittles are pooped by unicorns |
| 04:26.15 | Skittles | AHH |
| 04:26.16 | Xapti | yeah I hate actor events.... I can do simple stuff, but aside from that it's confusing |
| 04:26.19 | Skittles | Fugget |
| 04:26.23 | Agouti | <3 |
| 04:26.31 | XenoX101 | wacko, the game doesnt need a custom map editor |
| 04:26.37 | Vesuvius | actor events are an underdocumented bitch |
| 04:26.41 | progammer | i need battlenet editor |
| 04:26.47 | Shawn|Rawr | ^ |
| 04:26.47 | wacko | yea it does LOL they have to make maps somehow :P |
| 04:26.47 | progammer | so i can make my own battlenet |
| 04:26.51 | Vesuvius | the only way to figure them out is by luck or by example |
| 04:26.53 | wacko | they use the same editor lol |
| 04:26.56 | Skittles | I have trouble with playing animations as well, cause there's like 10 different actor messages with the word animation in it. Xd |
| 04:27.25 | Shawn|Rawr | And those ones that model swap when you're on high |
| 04:27.26 | XenoX101 | wacko: well re: not having a reason |
| 04:27.27 | Shawn|Rawr | god forbid |
| 04:27.34 | XenoX101 | I would say their press release of the custom map editor |
| 04:27.38 | Xapti | BTW Keo, I'm not entirely sure, I think sending actor message "play animation" should work |
| 04:27.45 | XenoX101 | with third person SC ghost and birds eye view shooters |
| 04:27.51 | Xapti | but there might be a bit more to it, because I think I tried that, and it didn't work |
| 04:27.57 | XenoX101 | would warrant such functionality |
| 04:28.03 | wacko | that was a purely freetime thing done by someone in QA at the time |
| 04:28.14 | XenoX101 | no, browder introduced it |
| 04:28.17 | onetwo | what was wacko? |
| 04:28.19 | XenoX101 | and explained the potential of the editor |
| 04:28.25 | Skittles | 0.0 |
| 04:28.26 | wacko | I was there XenoX101 |
| 04:28.28 | XenoX101 | it was not just a 'by the way' type thing |
| 04:28.30 | Xapti | try sending message play animation "stand" subgroup "dance" |
| 04:28.37 | wacko | it was something someone did in his free time |
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| 04:28.44 | Tordy | need some help |
| 04:28.46 | Tordy | halp! |
| 04:28.47 | Xapti | I think I only tried the dance, but you need the stand first for some reason |
| 04:28.48 | XenoX101 | even so |
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| 04:28.55 | wacko | the game did not need it |
| 04:28.56 | XenoX101 | they decided to release it |
| 04:29.00 | XenoX101 | and publicize it |
| 04:29.10 | onetwo | need what? |
| 04:29.12 | XenoX101 | so they have some responsibility there |
| 04:29.16 | wacko | they stated there is possiblity |
| 04:29.18 | XenoX101 | to put something as simple as mouse tracking |
| 04:29.22 | XenoX101 | yeah pshh |
| 04:29.23 | wacko | no they do not |
| 04:29.37 | Xapti | The big issue is that the numer of things yo ucan do with the editor without mouse support is very limited |
| 04:29.43 | XenoX101 | precisely |
| 04:29.45 | Xapti | especially when you can't do stuff like lagless keyboard movement |
| 04:29.48 | XenoX101 | its such an integral thing |
| 04:29.57 | Skittles | when did they publicize mouse tracking? |
| 04:29.59 | wacko | for custom maps for you guys |
| 04:30.05 | wacko | not the game LOL |
| 04:30.12 | Demalii | skittles have you talked to your friend about removing kills and rank from unit ui? |
| 04:30.13 | wacko | which is why it was added later |
| 04:30.24 | XenoX101 | Skittles: it is an assumed feature when one talks about third person shooters, top down shooter sand all that |
| 04:30.26 | progammer_ | the highlight unit event has no lag at all |
| 04:30.26 | onetwo | yeah wacko, i think the same goes for hero inventory |
| 04:30.27 | Xapti | they wanted to make an editor which could do a whole tun of stuff. I'm not too angry at them anymore though, because mouse support is comming out, ad it's not TOO SLOW, and that's what matters in the long run |
| 04:30.36 | Tordy | argh |
| 04:30.37 | Tordy | so clos |
| 04:30.39 | Xapti | I'm just angry at other stuff now |
| 04:30.43 | XenoX101 | mm |
| 04:30.49 | Tordy | how do you make a model selectable |
| 04:30.54 | XenoX101 | I think actor events is a good place to be angry ;p |
| 04:30.59 | Skittles | He hasn't logged on in like 5 days according to sc2 |
| 04:31.02 | onetwo | wacko, do you know anything about how the inventory will work in blizz dota? |
| 04:31.06 | wacko | I mean they are making stuff better as time goes on which says something |
| 04:31.08 | onetwo | is it always displayed |
| 04:31.09 | progammer_ | to think of it, the battlenet editor is a good idea |
| 04:31.10 | wacko | uhhh |
| 04:31.12 | Xapti | tordy you still have that problem? |
| 04:31.19 | wacko | yes I dp |
| 04:31.22 | Tordy | yiup |
| 04:31.31 | onetwo | did they use a dialog? |
| 04:31.36 | Xapti | smoething to do with the model asset right? |
| 04:31.37 | onetwo | or the data editor one? |
| 04:31.39 | Shawn|Rawr | They will hopefully make the inventory slots a bit bigger at least |
| 04:31.44 | progammer_ | to be precise it help make the support for a map like ranking, matchmaking |
| 04:31.52 | XenoX101 | can someone delete this post please - http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/16045-complete-noobs-guide-to-dota-style-maps-part-1/#p2 |
| 04:31.57 | XenoX101 | ;p |
| 04:31.59 | progammer_ | and each mapmaker make their own |
| 04:32.03 | Tordy | someoen goto the model browser |
| 04:32.08 | Skittles | lol |
| 04:32.20 | Tordy | and find me a model that looks like the numbers 0 to 9 |
| 04:32.28 | Skittles | Dem, maybe as pro? He knows a lot about the data editor. |
| 04:32.48 | Skittles | My friend figured that stuff out and he's only used the editor for like 7 hours |
| 04:32.49 | Tordy | all i can find is something called ping numeric |
| 04:33.08 | Xapti | tordy I think I saw doodads that are numbers |
| 04:33.19 | Xapti | so those use models I guess |
| 04:33.25 | Tordy | what ar they called |
| 04:33.39 | Tordy | problem is i dont know how to make them selectable |
| 04:33.52 | Xapti | I can't remember, they were to go on city roads I think |
| 04:34.08 | Tordy | like doodads for example |
| 04:34.10 | Tordy | say a mountain |
| 04:34.11 | XenoX101 | if anyone knows a way I can make my data spell temporarily disable collision on my hero I will love you forever ;p |
| 04:34.12 | Skittles | rawr |
| 04:34.15 | Tordy | how do i turn the moutnain into a selectable unit |
| 04:34.25 | Tordy | i can get the unit part |
| 04:34.28 | Tordy | but i cant make it "clickable" |
| 04:34.42 | Skittles | a behavior i think xeno |
| 04:34.45 | Demalii | right on skittles |
| 04:34.46 | progammer_ | Tordy: 1 : check the flag unselectable |
| 04:34.50 | progammer_ | 2: profit |
| 04:34.57 | XenoX101 | Skittles I've looked in behaviour, no dice :( |
| 04:34.59 | Tordy | i did! |
| 04:35.04 | Tordy | doesnt do anything |
| 04:35.12 | Xapti | I only know the basics that I assume you may alread know. You need to make a unit (that is not unselectable), then add an actor event to the doodad's actor so that the unit is linked to it |
| 04:35.22 | progammer_ | what was the original unit ? |
| 04:35.31 | Tordy | wait where is this flag |
| 04:35.33 | progammer_ | or model |
| 04:35.34 | Skittles | should be unflagged, not flagged. |
| 04:35.37 | Xapti | unit flags |
| 04:35.43 | Skittles | flag = checkbox |
| 04:35.44 | Skizot | someone bring me graden of aiur |
| 04:35.51 | Tordy | dont see it |
| 04:36.04 | Tordy | you mean |
| 04:36.06 | Tordy | cannot be clicked? |
| 04:36.08 | Tordy | ok |
| 04:36.17 | Skittles | it shouldn't be checked |
| 04:36.37 | XenoX101 | no, most units have that checked |
| 04:36.44 | Skittles | oh? |
| 04:36.46 | XenoX101 | I just checked firebat and it has it checked |
| 04:36.55 | Tordy | gimme some of that sweet sweet honey baby! |
| 04:37.22 | Tordy | yea the flag doesnt seem to do anything |
| 04:37.39 | Agouti | did you try waving it? |
| 04:37.44 | XenoX101 | har har |
| 04:37.46 | JManV | wow, that is a super-cool lighting effect |
| 04:37.49 | Agouti | hurr hurr |
| 04:37.54 | Xapti | Tordy there's Unit - Flags field, there's clickable, but there's also unselectable |
| 04:38.00 | Agouti | neither |
| 04:38.08 | Agouti | the ones you want |
| 04:38.09 | Agouti | are |
| 04:38.19 | Agouti | Un-ones |
| 04:38.23 | Agouti | the cannot be clicked |
| 04:38.28 | Agouti | cannot be highlighted |
| 04:38.29 | Agouti | do nothing |
| 04:38.37 | Agouti | wait |
| 04:38.40 | Agouti | misread |
| 04:38.45 | Agouti | those are the ones you are trying? |
| 04:38.50 | Agouti | *reads back* |
| 04:39.01 | Xapti | for some reason cannot be clicked is checked on standard units, so you want to leave that checked |
| 04:39.07 | Xapti | but yo uwant to uncheck unselectable |
| 04:39.07 | Agouti | yeah |
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| 04:39.34 | Xapti | I don't know what cannot be clicked does really |
| 04:39.34 | Agouti | yeah |
| 04:39.36 | Agouti | tordy |
| 04:39.39 | Tordy | it is unchecked |
| 04:39.41 | Agouti | you want Unselectable |
| 04:39.45 | Agouti | ok |
| 04:39.50 | Agouti | is the unit set as Not Doodad? |
| 04:39.52 | Tordy | i just made a new unit |
| 04:39.59 | Tordy | w/ all defeault attributes |
| 04:39.59 | Agouti | oh |
| 04:40.00 | Agouti | right |
| 04:40.06 | Agouti | go to the model |
| 04:40.13 | Tordy | yea it's the model |
| 04:40.14 | Agouti | and make sure Selection Radius > 0 |
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| 04:40.34 | Tordy | because if i change the model to somethign that's not a doodad, like a marine, it's selectable |
| 04:40.46 | Agouti | ^^^ read up |
| 04:40.57 | Xapti | default units have a selection radius greater than 0 so it's an unlikely problem |
| 04:41.10 | Tordy | yea |
| 04:41.13 | Agouti | doodads however don't? |
| 04:41.13 | Tordy | it's 0.5 |
| 04:41.21 | Agouti | k |
| 04:41.27 | Tordy | im talkig about the actual model |
| 04:41.30 | Tordy | not the model actor |
| 04:41.41 | Tordy | i mean |
| 04:41.45 | Tordy | not the model object |
| 04:41.48 | Tordy | the m3 |
| 04:41.48 | Tordy | that |
| 04:42.03 | Agouti | yes |
| 04:42.07 | Agouti | ok |
| 04:42.09 | Tordy | if you look at the m3's attributes, there's one called bounding box |
| 04:42.10 | Agouti | be specific |
| 04:42.14 | Agouti | ok |
| 04:42.15 | Tordy | i have a feeling it's that |
| 04:42.19 | Agouti | so you went to the Model |
| 04:42.23 | Tordy | hi |
| 04:42.24 | Agouti | then cahnged the actual m3 |
| 04:42.33 | Tordy | but this is the m3 i want! |
| 04:42.33 | Agouti | and it worked? |
| 04:42.38 | Tordy | yea |
| 04:42.41 | Agouti | ah |
| 04:42.42 | Agouti | gotcha |
| 04:42.52 | Agouti | might need to pull apart the m3 then :( |
| 04:42.58 | Tordy | that's what im afraid of |
| 04:43.07 | Tordy | no idea how to do this :X |
| 04:43.27 | Agouti | idk either I'm afraid... |
| 04:44.35 | Vail | what are you tyring to do? |
| 04:46.01 | Tordy | alright |
| 04:46.11 | Tordy | goto the marine unit |
| 04:46.14 | Tordy | goto its model |
| 04:46.21 | Tordy | change the model to pingnumeric.m3 |
| 04:46.30 | Tordy | how do you make the marine clickable? |
| 04:46.43 | Tordy | that's what im trying to do similar |
| 04:46.49 | Tordy | cept im making a new unit but that doesnt matter |
| 04:46.57 | Tordy | just tryin to shwo an example |
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| 04:51.11 | Vail | hmm |
| 04:51.39 | Tordy | methinks it's the colllision sphere |
| 04:51.41 | Tordy | since its radius is 0 |
| 04:51.47 | Tordy | but not sure how to change that |
| 04:51.59 | Tordy | that's part of the m3 itself |
| 04:53.00 | Midac | it takes ~5 minutes to make 1 item :( |
| 04:53.24 | Shawn|Rawr | yup |
| 04:53.30 | Tordy | so how do i change the m3's collision sphere attribute |
| 04:54.16 | Shawn|Rawr | Which model? |
| 04:54.31 | Tordy | pingnumeric |
| 04:55.00 | Skittles | why wont it let me open my frap video in virtual dub? |
| 04:58.37 | Shawn|Rawr | I wonder what the collision sphere needs to be |
| 04:58.53 | Tordy | well i think its radius has to be greater than 0 |
| 04:58.57 | Tordy | but i dont know how to chang ethat |
| 04:59.01 | Shawn|Rawr | .5? |
| 04:59.06 | Skizot | FFFFFF |
| 04:59.13 | Tordy | well at least greater than 0 |
| 04:59.19 | Tordy | so it can be clickable in some way |
| 05:02.29 | Vail | sigh damn it why didnt they allow the modify unit effect to make units Not dead |
| 05:05.52 | Tordy | firefox 4 |
| 05:05.53 | Tordy | is ok |
| 05:08.32 | Skittles | okay... I think my computer is just not installing codecs properly... how can I fix that.. |
| 05:09.11 | Tordy | NBA |
| 05:09.11 | Tordy | 2k11 |
| 05:09.29 | JManV | hmmm... so how can i do the classic pokemon cliffs? |
| 05:09.47 | JManV | i don't get that many levels of actual cliffs |
| 05:10.34 | Skittles | pic |
| 05:10.36 | Skittles | of actual |
| 05:10.45 | Tordy | jmanv how do you modify an m3's attributes |
| 05:10.46 | Skizot | trust me. |
| 05:10.56 | Skizot | if i could get more than 3 cliff heights |
| 05:11.05 | Skizot | my map would have a 5th type of level. |
| 05:11.20 | JManV | http://www.serebii.net/pokearth/maps/kanto-frlg/1.png |
| 05:11.40 | Vail | damn two weeks till the next patch sad man |
| 05:11.41 | JManV | those cliffs you can go down but not up |
| 05:11.57 | Skittles | increase height |
| 05:12.16 | Skittles | and then use a constant trigger that creates a point in front of the unit |
| 05:12.20 | JManV | that makes hills |
| 05:12.21 | Skittles | if the height increases by to much |
| 05:12.31 | Skittles | teleport unit back |
| 05:12.34 | Vail | a one way jump ability |
| 05:13.02 | JManV | the "cliff" should be a terrain object of some sort... |
| 05:13.03 | JManV | i'm thinking |
| 05:13.14 | Skittles | @.@ |
| 05:13.19 | Skizot | e-coockie to whoever can get me a GOOD pic of a contra item blimp |
| 05:13.20 | Demalii | how do i immediatly stop a running trigger? I though turn trigger off would do it.. |
| 05:13.38 | Skittles | then only use the cliff levels u got |
| 05:13.41 | Skittles | no need to copy areas completely |
| 05:14.04 | Demalii | ohh sob, nvm |
| 05:14.17 | Skizot | demali there IS a stop trigger |
| 05:14.24 | JManV | i mean, they do need to be actual terrain levels |
| 05:14.31 | Demalii | yea just found it, sorry for that question |
| 05:14.36 | JManV | but an object in the terrain you can cross one way but not another |
| 05:14.48 | JManV | that looks like a small jump-off |
| 05:15.26 | JManV | but no, i don't need to copy it completely |
| 05:15.42 | JManV | but for the first area or two, it'll really establish the mood |
| 05:15.52 | Skittles | you can't get the many cliff levels.. |
| 05:15.55 | Skittles | pick one or the other. |
| 05:16.05 | Skittles | Height and get em all... or cliff levels and don't get them all. |
| 05:16.11 | JManV | i'm not talking cliff levels |
| 05:16.11 | Skittles | Gotta catch them all. |
| 05:16.22 | JManV | indeed |
| 05:16.23 | Tordy | cant export the models |
| 05:16.28 | JManV | talking about something like bridges |
| 05:16.35 | JManV | except one way |
| 05:16.37 | JManV | wide and short |
| 05:16.47 | Midac | is there an image anywhere which shows where container slots go? |
| 05:16.49 | JManV | made to look like cliff tops |
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| 05:18.13 | Skittles | I already told you one way to make it so u can go up, but not down. It had nothing to do with terrain objects and I don't even want to imagine using them. |
| 05:18.21 | progammer | Demalii: i have no idea about it |
| 05:18.22 | Skizot | get me poke mans models and i'll export em :D |
| 05:18.36 | Demalii | I got the msg thanks though |
| 05:18.53 | JManV | yeah i'm with you on not wanting to think about it |
| 05:19.04 | JManV | but i don't think the way you're recommending will be very smooth |
| 05:19.13 | Skittles | It was smooth on wc3.. |
| 05:19.17 | Skittles | No way it wouldn't be on sc2 |
| 05:19.24 | Tordy | nvm thik i got it |
| 05:20.08 | Skittles | You could even find the angle if you really wanted to be technical about the system. |
| 05:21.12 | Tordy | argh |
| 05:21.14 | Tordy | wish otixa was here! |
| 05:21.15 | Tordy | :[ |
| 05:23.31 | Skittles | y |
| 05:23.40 | Tordy | because he/s a modeler |
| 05:23.42 | Tordy | he knows waht to do! |
| 05:23.53 | Skittles | oh |
| 05:23.59 | Skittles | xara was on earlier |
| 05:27.44 | Shawn|Rawr | ROAR |
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| 05:29.34 | Skittles | lawl |
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| 05:37.44 | Tordy | gawd |
| 05:37.57 | Tordy | anyone here know how to edit an m |
| 05:38.00 | Tordy | anyone here know how to edit an m3 |
| 05:38.12 | Demalii | are there action comments? |
| 05:38.37 | Skittles | im going to bed |
| 05:38.38 | Skittles | ttyl |
| 05:38.43 | Demalii | or can you only put comments in the trigger list |
| 05:38.45 | Demalii | cya |
| 05:39.16 | Tordy | downloading at 3MBps is nice |
| 05:39.33 | Midac | right click->new->newcomment works everywhere |
| 05:39.33 | Tordy | on a home connection too |
| 05:39.39 | Tordy | i mean college connection |
| 05:39.44 | Tordy | that's just too much |
| 05:39.46 | Tordy | 10MBps |
| 05:39.47 | Tordy | argh |
| 05:42.47 | Tordy | im hit! bloody hell do something! |
| 05:43.01 | Shawn|Rawr | Demalii! |
| 05:43.45 | onetwo | hey whats that website where they post the funniest/best irc quotes |
| 05:43.46 | onetwo | of all time |
| 05:44.12 | Shawn|Rawr | http://www.qdb.us/top |
| 05:44.47 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:45.47 | Shawn|Rawr | C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! |
| 05:45.55 | Skizot | okay. making a tech demo of my map. |
| 05:46.01 | Skizot | well tech demo video |
| 05:46.04 | Skizot | :P |
| 05:51.46 | onetwo | hahahah |
| 05:51.46 | onetwo | <calin> we had a guy at school that wore black lipstick.. and was all gothy.. and then one day we caught him buying an assvibrator <ecoli> ew. <ecoli> wait, you "caught" him? <ecoli> like, you were behind him in line at the assvibrator store? <Aero> he doesnt answer |
| 05:53.12 | Shawn|Rawr | Hahah |
| 05:53.43 | Shawn|Rawr | Jenna says: I |
| 05:53.44 | Shawn|Rawr | Jenna says: l |
| 05:53.46 | Shawn|Rawr | Jenna says: o |
| 05:53.48 | Shawn|Rawr | Jenna says: v |
| 05:53.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Jenna says: e |
| 05:53.51 | Shawn|Rawr | Jenna says: y |
| 05:53.53 | Shawn|Rawr | David says: C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! |
| 05:53.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Jenna says: what the **** is your problem? |
| 05:53.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Jenna says: why do you always do that? |
| 05:54.32 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:54.37 | onetwo | <Beeth> Girls are like internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken. <honx> well, you can stil get one from a strange country :-P |
| 05:54.41 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:55.41 | Shawn|Rawr | Just awesome. I'm so glad you found this |
| 05:55.48 | onetwo | <hypnosis> 2. A sperm 37.5 MB. <hypnosis> 3. In a milliliter, we have 100 million sperms. <hypnosis> On average, one ejaculation releases 2.25 ml in 5 seconds. <hypnosis> Using basic math we can compute the bandwidth of the human male penis as: <hypnosis> (37.5MB x 100M x 2.25)/5 = (37,500,000 bytes/sperm x 100,000,000 sperm/ml x 2.25 ml) / 5 seconds = 1,687,500,000,000,000 bytes/sec = 1,687.5 TerraBytes/sec |
| 05:55.53 | onetwo | LOL |
| 05:57.56 | Skizot | i am in the qdb :/ |
| 05:58.40 | Shawn|Rawr | Great one |
| 05:59.01 | onetwo | 1.6 petabytes per man |
| 05:59.12 | Shawn|Rawr | almost 1.7 |
| 05:59.14 | onetwo | or if youre a pedophile, 1.6 pedobytes |
| 05:59.46 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm so tempted to post ours on here |
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| 06:01.15 | DarkRevenant | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1567811475 |
| 06:01.16 | DarkRevenant | ANSWERS |
| 06:01.19 | DarkRevenant | I NEED THEM. |
| 06:02.20 | Skizot | your balls |
| 06:02.26 | Shawn|Rawr | http://www.qdb.us/304924 |
| 06:03.25 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:03.48 | DarkRevenant | so |
| 06:03.50 | DarkRevenant | as i suspected |
| 06:03.56 | DarkRevenant | nobody has anything constructive to say about |
| 06:03.58 | DarkRevenant | i dunno |
| 06:04.00 | Skizot | DarkRevenant |
| 06:04.03 | DarkRevenant | the fact that advanced scripting is prohibited |
| 06:04.09 | DarkRevenant | yo |
| 06:04.19 | onetwo | wow other quotes that are up for vote suck |
| 06:04.20 | onetwo | (DemonHeadx) Anyone know of a minecraft server host that can host about 1$ per player? (Weltschmerz) A server that can host dollars is called a safe |
| 06:04.22 | onetwo | thats not funny |
| 06:04.38 | Skizot | if YOU can tell me how to make models attached to units MOVE WITH THE UNITS while the units are NOT moving... i'll get some info on the error for ya :P |
| 06:05.18 | onetwo | that one is pretty good Shawn |
| 06:05.19 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:06.12 | Shawn|Rawr | I can take it off my sig now since it will be in that db forever |
| 06:06.54 | onetwo | ill try and vote it |
| 06:07.01 | onetwo | its not appearing in the queue |
| 06:07.16 | onetwo | most of these new ones are pretty bad though |
| 06:08.11 | Vesuvius | my cat is sitting on my chair |
| 06:08.13 | Vesuvius | and won't move |
| 06:08.19 | onetwo | sit down |
| 06:08.20 | Vesuvius | even though i'm sitting on top of him |
| 06:08.22 | onetwo | itll solve itself |
| 06:08.23 | Vesuvius | so lazy... |
| 06:08.24 | onetwo | wow |
| 06:08.26 | onetwo | so lazy |
| 06:08.30 | onetwo | what a lazy ass |
| 06:08.39 | Vesuvius | he really is |
| 06:08.40 | Shawn|Rawr | I feel so accomplished.. I have a entire setup for removing and creating an entire base with defenses, unit, workers that work, etc |
| 06:08.50 | Vesuvius | there's another cat on my lap |
| 06:08.53 | Vesuvius | so i can't get up |
| 06:08.54 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 06:09.18 | DarkRevenant | btw skizot |
| 06:09.20 | Shawn|Rawr | Why would you want to get up? |
| 06:09.21 | DarkRevenant | you CAN'T |
| 06:09.25 | DarkRevenant | it's IMPOSSIBLE |
| 06:09.29 | Tordy | im hit! bloody well do something! |
| 06:09.31 | DarkRevenant | because the m3 exporter is flawed |
| 06:09.45 | DarkRevenant | you have to wait for the blizz art tools |
| 06:09.50 | DarkRevenant | i have confirmed it is the MODEL ITSELF |
| 06:10.01 | Tordy | DarkRevenant how do you modify an m |
| 06:10.03 | DarkRevenant | it only happens with imported models, am i right? |
| 06:10.03 | Tordy | DarkRevenant how do you modify an m3 |
| 06:10.13 | DarkRevenant | export it into blender or 3ds max |
| 06:10.15 | DarkRevenant | modify thre |
| 06:10.18 | onetwo | hhaaha |
| 06:10.22 | Tordy | :[ |
| 06:10.22 | onetwo | it sounds like a cat 3way |
| 06:10.22 | DarkRevenant | then convert back to m3 |
| 06:10.25 | onetwo | vesuvius |
| 06:10.30 | onetwo | one under you, one on your lap |
| 06:10.33 | onetwo | i think ive heard enough |
| 06:10.33 | Tordy | i just need to change one simple thing |
| 06:10.35 | Vesuvius | haha |
| 06:10.47 | Tordy | it's the bounding sphere |
| 06:10.50 | Tordy | radius |
| 06:10.55 | DarkRevenant | possibly |
| 06:10.57 | Vesuvius | purs |
| 06:11.07 | DarkRevenant | that fix would be greatly appreciated by... everyone |
| 06:11.10 | XenoX101 | does anyone know how to stop an actor mid-flight using actor - events +? |
| 06:11.18 | DarkRevenant | easy way to test |
| 06:11.26 | DarkRevenant | attach a model to a unit via triggers |
| 06:11.30 | Shawn|Rawr | Define midflight |
| 06:11.37 | DarkRevenant | if it looks retarded because the model floats in mid-air or something, you did it wrong |
| 06:11.45 | XenoX101 | like when the hero stops his ability |
| 06:11.51 | XenoX101 | cause my dash ability can be long or short |
| 06:11.56 | XenoX101 | depending where he clicks |
| 06:11.57 | Shawn|Rawr | Ability.YourAbility.Stop |
| 06:12.00 | XenoX101 | I tried that |
| 06:12.22 | XenoX101 | and then "Destroy" as the message |
| 06:12.26 | DarkRevenant | anyway, tordy, i didnt mean any offense to you |
| 06:12.27 | Shawn|Rawr | Effect.YourEffect.Stop |
| 06:12.32 | XenoX101 | tried that too |
| 06:12.34 | DarkRevenant | just that it's a bug that stems back to your tool |
| 06:12.42 | DarkRevenant | its just that very few made that connection |
| 06:13.15 | onetwo | http://www.qdb.us/303746 lol |
| 06:13.56 | DarkRevenant | in that case |
| 06:14.02 | DarkRevenant | i'd imagine that simply being that late |
| 06:14.05 | DarkRevenant | is enough cause to be fired |
| 06:14.11 | DarkRevenant | there's really no way to get yourself out of that |
| 06:14.15 | DarkRevenant | i'd had fired him either way |
| 06:14.44 | onetwo | yeah |
| 06:14.53 | DarkRevenant | but that retort would be epic |
| 06:15.01 | onetwo | but blizz games are on time now |
| 06:15.04 | DarkRevenant | i'd tell it to my coworkers, after filing his release form |
| 06:15.08 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:18.26 | Shawn|Rawr | http://www.qdb.us/155035 |
| 06:22.47 | XenoX101 | shawnnnnn msnnn plz |
| 06:23.48 | Shawn|Rawr | http://www.qdb.us/45472 |
| 06:23.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Oh |
| 06:24.02 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 06:26.21 | DarkRevenant | i love it when that happens |
| 06:26.26 | DarkRevenant | a nice explosive end |
| 06:26.34 | DarkRevenant | apparently Truman had the same idea |
| 06:26.56 | *** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (~Raziel@95.76.133.23) |
| 06:27.24 | DarkRevenant | "hey mr president, sorry to interrupt, but we want to tell you that we finished making a megabomb. ready to deploy this week in the war. yes or no?" |
| 06:27.28 | DarkRevenant | its like a game moral choice |
| 06:27.57 | onetwo | lets hope that phase of humanity is over |
| 06:28.07 | onetwo | and strictly virtual |
| 06:28.22 | DarkRevenant | Evil: No, the mass casualties suffered during invasion will open up all sorts of opportunities for growth and replacement. Plus, we can annex Japan. |
| 06:28.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster C-H_ (~CH@c-174-52-34-99.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 06:28.25 | onetwo | like i said, if we play enough starcraft maybe we can beat north korea |
| 06:28.42 | DarkRevenant | Good: Bomb them twice for good measure and wait for the surrender. |
| 06:29.33 | Vesuvius | you'd be waiting a long time |
| 06:29.41 | Vesuvius | the size of that country, there wouldn't be much left :P |
| 06:35.12 | DarkRevenant | hmm |
| 06:35.18 | DarkRevenant | it took |
| 06:35.24 | DarkRevenant | nearly 5 minutes |
| 06:35.28 | DarkRevenant | to T/O |
| 06:35.30 | DarkRevenant | wow |
| 06:42.20 | Tordy | it's the bounding sphere |
| 06:42.45 | onetwo | someone needs to make a map based on bounding spheres |
| 06:42.53 | Tordy | im gonna bound YOU |
| 06:43.03 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:43.14 | Tordy | im hit! bloody hell do something! |
| 06:43.20 | DarkRevenant | well, tordy |
| 06:43.29 | Tordy | whoops |
| 06:43.31 | DarkRevenant | this fix will make many maps a whole lot less retarded-looking |
| 06:43.38 | Tordy | what fix |
| 06:43.43 | DarkRevenant | fixing bounding spheres |
| 06:43.51 | DarkRevenant | ie fixing attachments |
| 06:44.55 | Vail | * Now talking in #Christian |
| 06:44.56 | Vail | <Cyk> How is a painting of jesus better than the real jesus? |
| 06:44.56 | Vail | <Kraynor> beats me |
| 06:44.56 | Vail | <Cyk> you only need one nail to hang the picture |
| 06:44.56 | Vail | <Aer> your going to burn in hell |
| 06:45.11 | Vesuvius | haha |
| 06:45.11 | Vail | <calin> we had a guy at school that wore black liack |
| 06:45.29 | Vail | any way night |
| 06:45.51 | onetwo | lol he half pastes a quote and then goes to sleep |
| 06:46.02 | Vesuvius | yeah |
| 06:46.07 | Vesuvius | i guess the second half is in the morning |
| 06:46.28 | Agouti | lol |
| 06:46.31 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:46.36 | Agouti | *waits for the punchline* |
| 06:46.44 | Agouti | ah, reminds me |
| 06:46.44 | onetwo | i already pasted that quote in too |
| 06:46.45 | onetwo | earlier |
| 06:46.47 | Agouti | I have a problem |
| 06:46.58 | Agouti | I have a zergy style builder |
| 06:47.11 | Agouti | ie build ability that uses the hide builder flag |
| 06:47.17 | Agouti | which works fine |
| 06:47.33 | Agouti | however the control group for the worker gets transfered to the building it makes |
| 06:47.59 | Vesuvius | i think that happens in melee |
| 06:48.00 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 06:48.06 | Agouti | mmm |
| 06:48.09 | Agouti | but how to fix :( |
| 06:48.10 | Vesuvius | though i may be misremembering |
| 06:48.15 | Agouti | it does |
| 06:48.26 | Vesuvius | probably isn't fixable |
| 06:48.27 | Agouti | thats what you rely on when stealing gas with a drone |
| 06:48.53 | Agouti | might just have to store and restore control groups before and after |
| 06:48.56 | Agouti | how frustrating |
| 06:49.11 | Agouti | I think it's because the building counts as a morph |
| 06:49.26 | Keo_ | How do unit groups work? |
| 06:49.41 | Agouti | basically an array containing units |
| 06:49.50 | Agouti | variable length array |
| 06:49.58 | Keo_ | How do I create a unit group? |
| 06:50.04 | Agouti | new variable |
| 06:50.06 | Agouti | type |
| 06:50.08 | Agouti | unit group |
| 06:50.09 | Agouti | done |
| 06:50.12 | Keo_ | oh its a variable |
| 06:50.17 | Agouti | yup |
| 06:50.19 | Vesuvius | oh if you can change control groups in triggers you can fix it |
| 06:50.20 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 06:50.31 | Agouti | ves: just checking that now :( |
| 06:50.43 | Agouti | but I can't see an easy way |
| 06:50.51 | Demalii | hey guys, anyone know how to use a trigger, to turn off invulnerability for a unit? |
| 06:51.05 | Agouti | define invulnerability |
| 06:51.13 | Agouti | noting that technically there is no such thing |
| 06:51.18 | Agouti | there is a flag called invul |
| 06:51.27 | onetwo | you can set unit properties |
| 06:51.27 | Agouti | but it won't prevent the unit from being killed |
| 06:51.31 | onetwo | and i believe use that to turn off invulner |
| 06:51.39 | Agouti | just make most abilities unable to target |
| 06:51.41 | Demalii | i tried |
| 06:51.45 | Demalii | it's like health, energy |
| 06:51.49 | Agouti | no |
| 06:51.53 | Agouti | it's a state flag |
| 06:52.01 | JManV | hmmm... im not sure i like changing into another unit when i enter grass |
| 06:52.09 | Demalii | modify unit properity is what i tried |
| 06:52.17 | Agouti | I don't think I'd like that either jmanv |
| 06:52.28 | Demalii | err set |
| 06:52.29 | onetwo | Unit - set unit state |
| 06:52.35 | JManV | not sure how i want to play this then |
| 06:52.36 | Demalii | ahh state ok |
| 06:52.42 | onetwo | set it to invulnerable on |
| 06:52.43 | onetwo | BUT |
| 06:52.51 | Demalii | my unit is default invul |
| 06:52.51 | onetwo | make sure all damage effects and weapons search filters in your game |
| 06:52.55 | onetwo | cant targte Invulnerable |
| 06:52.56 | Demalii | i want to temporarily turn it off |
| 06:52.59 | onetwo | target |
| 06:53.05 | Demalii | word i understand |
| 06:53.05 | onetwo | most sc2 ones already do |
| 06:53.05 | Agouti | +1 to what onetwo said |
| 06:53.06 | onetwo | but if you made your own |
| 06:53.09 | onetwo | make sure |
| 06:53.12 | Demalii | got ya |
| 06:53.14 | Demalii | thanks |
| 06:53.22 | Agouti | I had one that could still target invuln in it's AOE search |
| 06:53.22 | onetwo | np, thank agouti |
| 06:53.24 | onetwo | he got me going |
| 06:53.25 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:53.26 | Agouti | exploit ftl :( |
| 06:54.10 | Vesuvius | why are my stalkers spazzing out :( |
| 06:54.12 | Agouti | Untargetable is almost better than Invulnerable |
| 06:54.23 | Agouti | because someone put acid in their tanks? |
| 06:54.39 | Vesuvius | they stop short of the target |
| 06:54.45 | Vesuvius | even though their leash allows them to go farther |
| 06:54.54 | Vesuvius | and then their weapon doesn't fire |
| 06:54.55 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 06:55.19 | Agouti | btw: there is no function to retrieve what is in a control group |
| 06:55.21 | Agouti | you can set it |
| 06:55.24 | Agouti | and clear it |
| 06:55.26 | Agouti | but not read it |
| 06:55.54 | onetwo | http://www.qdb.us/queue guys vote on our entry at the top |
| 06:55.57 | onetwo | vote to keep it |
| 06:56.00 | onetwo | just press keep it |
| 06:56.56 | Shawn|Rawr | I pressed it! |
| 07:04.39 | Tordy | woah! |
| 07:04.57 | Demalii | Is there a simple edit to make lurkers attack in a straight line? |
| 07:05.25 | Demalii | or know where i could look exactly |
| 07:05.36 | wacko | lol |
| 07:06.36 | Tordy | wtf! |
| 07:09.23 | Agouti | demalii: in the actor |
| 07:09.32 | Demalii | ok thanks |
| 07:09.38 | Agouti | there is an actor which controls the attack |
| 07:09.58 | Demalii | do i look for offsets ? |
| 07:10.01 | Agouti | I still can't find where to do this control group stuff |
| 07:10.07 | Agouti | don't know Dem |
| 07:10.27 | Agouti | just that it will be in the weapon actor somewhere if it is anywhere. If not, it will be in the model |
| 07:10.45 | Agouti | there seems no way to do it |
| 07:10.47 | Agouti | like |
| 07:10.58 | Agouti | I can remove the building from all control groups after it is built |
| 07:11.11 | Agouti | but how do I know what group the builder was in... |
| 07:12.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (~skizot@226-187.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 07:12.39 | Agouti | I think I will have to do the unit hiding via trigger |
| 07:12.42 | Agouti | instead of data |
| 07:12.44 | Agouti | how sad |
| 07:15.48 | onetwo | triggers are like a short term high |
| 07:15.58 | onetwo | you know itll work but deep down you know a data editor solution has to be found later |
| 07:16.11 | Agouti | pretty much |
| 07:16.14 | Agouti | the problem is |
| 07:16.19 | Agouti | if the DE solution is bugged |
| 07:16.28 | Agouti | :( |
| 07:16.39 | Skizot | help. 9x - 7i > 3(3x-7u) |
| 07:17.02 | onetwo | 3 vars? one equation? no thanks |
| 07:17.03 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:17.22 | Agouti | there are an infinite number of solutions to that equation |
| 07:17.33 | Vesuvius | no.... really? |
| 07:17.36 | Agouti | wait |
| 07:17.38 | Agouti | bi |
| 07:17.39 | Agouti | no |
| 07:17.40 | Agouti | duh |
| 07:17.49 | Agouti | simply subtract 9x from both sides |
| 07:17.58 | Agouti | divide by 7 |
| 07:18.02 | Agouti | i>3u |
| 07:18.04 | Agouti | done |
| 07:18.16 | Vesuvius | still an infinite number of solutions |
| 07:18.18 | Agouti | oh |
| 07:18.23 | Agouti | my bad |
| 07:18.23 | Skizot | that seems wrong |
| 07:18.25 | Vesuvius | if i and u are vars |
| 07:18.30 | Agouti | that is wrong |
| 07:18.31 | Agouti | it is |
| 07:18.33 | Agouti | i<3u |
| 07:18.45 | onetwo | if you put i before u something something u and i in bed makin love |
| 07:18.46 | Skizot | :D |
| 07:18.52 | Shawn|Rawr | onetwo, don't you get a crap load of tut requests? |
| 07:18.58 | Skizot | it's good to be <3'd |
| 07:19.01 | onetwo | a lot are ones i cant do |
| 07:19.04 | Vesuvius | fail pickup line |
| 07:19.05 | Agouti | o hurr hurr |
| 07:19.09 | onetwo | most requests are attaching a model to a model |
| 07:19.12 | onetwo | i havent done it |
| 07:19.16 | onetwo | i have some ideas |
| 07:19.20 | Agouti | sorry, I still got that wrong |
| 07:19.24 | onetwo | ill probably do one this week |
| 07:19.25 | Agouti | it's |
| 07:19.31 | Agouti | 3u<i |
| 07:19.42 | Agouti | 3u>i* |
| 07:19.46 | Agouti | there |
| 07:19.46 | Agouti | done |
| 07:20.03 | Skizot | onetwo |
| 07:20.03 | Skizot | it's easy to do. |
| 07:20.11 | Vesuvius | yeah that makes good sense |
| 07:20.12 | Skizot | just the attached models don't follow the attachment points UNLESS the main model is moving. |
| 07:20.14 | Agouti | purl who is skizot |
| 07:20.14 | purl | Agouti: what are you talking about? |
| 07:20.21 | Vesuvius | three of you would seriously be able to beat the crap out of one of me |
| 07:20.40 | Agouti | purl: skizot is someone with the worst pickup lines in the history of life, the universe and everything |
| 07:20.40 | purl | okay, Agouti |
| 07:21.07 | Vesuvius | purl who is skizot |
| 07:21.07 | purl | hmm... skizot is someone with the worst pickup lines in the history of life, the universe and everything |
| 07:21.08 | onetwo | purl who is Skizot |
| 07:21.08 | purl | somebody said skizot was someone with the worst pickup lines in the history of life, the universe and everything |
| 07:21.11 | Vesuvius | haha |
| 07:21.28 | onetwo | purl who is Martul |
| 07:21.28 | purl | onetwo: what are you talking about? |
| 07:21.35 | onetwo | damn no history for martul |
| 07:21.37 | onetwo | the biggest troll we ever had |
| 07:21.52 | Vesuvius | purl who is onetwo |
| 07:21.53 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, onetwo is a tutorial making machine with the sexiest voice ever |
| 07:22.00 | onetwo | LOL |
| 07:22.01 | onetwo | HAHAH |
| 07:22.04 | Vesuvius | you wrote that one yourself |
| 07:22.05 | Vesuvius | didn't you |
| 07:22.06 | Tordy | thanks for the tip dude |
| 07:22.07 | onetwo | no i didnt |
| 07:22.10 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 07:22.13 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 07:22.26 | Skizot | skizot is awesome. |
| 07:22.37 | Skizot | purl: skizot is awesome. |
| 07:22.37 | purl | ...but skizot is already something else... |
| 07:22.37 | onetwo | purl who is Sixen |
| 07:22.37 | purl | somebody said sixen was a chat gem? |
| 07:22.53 | Vesuvius | it locks |
| 07:22.54 | Tordy | purl who is me |
| 07:22.54 | purl | somebody said tordy was not torday |
| 07:22.55 | onetwo | purl who is rrowland |
| 07:22.55 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, onetwo |
| 07:23.06 | Sixen | sixen is no one |
| 07:23.08 | Vesuvius | purl who is me |
| 07:23.08 | purl | Vesuvius: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:23.12 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 07:23.14 | Vesuvius | good |
| 07:23.16 | Vesuvius | no one's done me yet |
| 07:23.25 | Agouti | I want purl in my map :( |
| 07:23.30 | Shawn|Rawr | Me too |
| 07:23.32 | Tordy | who |
| 07:23.35 | Agouti | ew though |
| 07:23.36 | onetwo | purl: Vesuvius sucks at arts and crafts |
| 07:23.41 | Tordy | purl who is purl |
| 07:23.41 | purl | Tordy: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:23.45 | Vesuvius | so true... |
| 07:23.48 | onetwo | does it work? |
| 07:23.48 | Vesuvius | purl who is me |
| 07:23.48 | purl | Vesuvius: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:23.54 | Vesuvius | purl who is Vesuvius |
| 07:23.55 | purl | Vesuvius: what are you talking about? |
| 07:23.59 | Vesuvius | apparenylu not |
| 07:24.11 | onetwo | hmm |
| 07:24.14 | onetwo | i dont understand the syntax then |
| 07:24.30 | Agouti | you would have to have it stored in Bank, and have it propagate new names across banks at the start of the map |
| 07:24.37 | Agouti | eww |
| 07:24.41 | Vesuvius | purl : onetwo is trying to ruin my reputation! |
| 07:24.41 | purl | ...but onetwo is already something else... |
| 07:24.42 | Agouti | would work |
| 07:24.42 | Agouti | but |
| 07:24.43 | Agouti | ew |
| 07:25.17 | Vesuvius | purl who is sexy |
| 07:25.17 | purl | "I'm bringing sexy back..." |
| 07:25.26 | Vesuvius | lol someone actually defined it? |
| 07:25.36 | Shawn|Rawr | purl what is love |
| 07:25.36 | purl | BABY DON'T HURT ME, DON'T HURT ME, NO MORE |
| 07:25.40 | Vesuvius | purl who is dead |
| 07:25.40 | purl | yes :( |
| 07:25.44 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 07:25.49 | Vesuvius | purl who is alive |
| 07:25.49 | purl | i guess alive is someone who still lives |
| 07:25.59 | Agouti | purl when I get that feeling |
| 07:26.01 | Vesuvius | purl what is dead |
| 07:26.01 | purl | yes :( |
| 07:26.03 | Shawn|Rawr | purl what is the meaning of life |
| 07:26.03 | purl | Shawn|Rawr: what are you talking about? |
| 07:26.07 | onetwo | purl who is god |
| 07:26.07 | purl | it has been said that god is a llama, or real unless declared integer |
| 07:26.07 | Vesuvius | purl what is evil |
| 07:26.08 | purl | hmm... evil is something Microsoft bought from Satan, according to http://bbspot.com/News/2000/4/MS_Buys_Evil.html |
| 07:26.23 | Dogmai | purl who is dogmai |
| 07:26.23 | purl | [dogmai] my dog and he bites |
| 07:26.25 | Agouti | purl: when I get that feeling |
| 07:26.30 | onetwo | ~8ball am i starter than you purl |
| 07:26.30 | purl | Unsure. |
| 07:26.31 | Agouti | siiiif |
| 07:26.39 | onetwo | ~8ball well check again purl |
| 07:26.40 | purl | Unsure. |
| 07:26.53 | onetwo | ~8ball well check again purl |
| 07:26.53 | purl | Please ask again. |
| 07:26.53 | Agouti | denied |
| 07:26.58 | onetwo | ~8ball well check again purl |
| 07:26.58 | purl | No. |
| 07:26.59 | Vesuvius | ~8ball are your responses random purl? |
| 07:26.59 | purl | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 07:27.03 | onetwo | damnit |
| 07:27.07 | onetwo | well now i really dont know |
| 07:27.26 | Vesuvius | purl what is a cat |
| 07:27.26 | purl | from memory, cat is officially used to concatenate files. cat is also used to display the contents of a file on screen. Syntax: cat (file1) (file2) ...(fileN) Where file1 through fileN are the files to display. Example: cat letters/from-mdw displays the file letters/from-mdw. or a clawed walking stomach that meows, or http://www.linux-on-line.net/downloads/fun/humorous-plus/beware_of_dogs.jpg |
| 07:27.37 | Shawn|Rawr | Wow |
| 07:27.43 | onetwo | ~8ball purl do you enjoy sarah palin's reality show |
| 07:27.43 | purl | Please ask again. |
| 07:27.46 | Vesuvius | purl what is a zombie |
| 07:27.46 | purl | methinks zombie is a zombie process is one which has issued an exit(), but whose parent has not yet issued wait() (or one of its variants) to retrieve the exit code. This usually means the parent process is buggy. You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent,just ignore the zombie. |
| 07:27.46 | onetwo | ~8ball purl do you enjoy sarah palin's reality show |
| 07:27.46 | purl | I'm not sure. |
| 07:27.50 | onetwo | ~8ball purl do you enjoy sarah palin's reality show |
| 07:27.50 | purl | Absolutely. |
| 07:27.54 | onetwo | !!!! |
| 07:27.55 | Vesuvius | purl what is nexus wars |
| 07:27.55 | purl | Vesuvius: what are you talking about? |
| 07:27.56 | onetwo | ive lost all respect |
| 07:28.05 | Vesuvius | purl: nexus wars is a total shit map |
| 07:28.05 | purl | Vesuvius: please, watch your language. |
| 07:28.08 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 07:28.19 | Vesuvius | purl what is nexus wars |
| 07:28.19 | purl | Vesuvius: what are you talking about? |
| 07:28.19 | onetwo | yeah calm down vesuvious |
| 07:28.20 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:28.25 | Vesuvius | :( |
| 07:28.58 | Vesuvius | purl what is a lightbulb |
| 07:28.59 | purl | Web-based tool for organising your list of things to do.. URL: http://www.alexium.com/lightbulb/ |
| 07:29.01 | Agouti | onetwo |
| 07:29.06 | Vesuvius | is it googling |
| 07:29.09 | Vesuvius | when you ask what is |
| 07:29.19 | Shawn|Rawr | No |
| 07:29.20 | Agouti | I will award you +1 internets if you work out how to do this data only |
| 07:29.40 | Vesuvius | purl what is a kghasjghalhgajgkn |
| 07:29.40 | purl | Vesuvius: what are you talking about? |
| 07:29.45 | Vesuvius | so someone entered |
| 07:29.46 | Agouti | have a building process which hides the worker, returns it after, and retains control groups |
| 07:29.47 | Vesuvius | all this crap? |
| 07:29.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes |
| 07:29.53 | Vesuvius | rof |
| 07:29.55 | Vesuvius | rofl |
| 07:29.55 | Vesuvius | why |
| 07:29.59 | Shawn|Rawr | Boredom |
| 07:30.15 | Vesuvius | purl what is a stoplight |
| 07:30.15 | purl | Vesuvius: what are you talking about? |
| 07:30.16 | onetwo | i dont know how |
| 07:30.17 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:30.25 | Vesuvius | clearly not bored enough |
| 07:30.27 | Shawn|Rawr | Isn't that easy enough? |
| 07:30.30 | Shawn|Rawr | Oh wait.. |
| 07:30.31 | onetwo | purl i love you |
| 07:30.32 | purl | You love you? |
| 07:30.33 | Agouti | lightbulb is down |
| 07:30.34 | Agouti | D: |
| 07:30.46 | onetwo | purl i love you, not myself |
| 07:30.46 | purl | You love you, not myself? |
| 07:30.48 | Agouti | purl: forget lightbult |
| 07:30.48 | purl | Agouti: i didn't have anything called 'lightbult' to forget |
| 07:30.50 | Vesuvius | purl what is an aardvark |
| 07:30.50 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Vesuvius |
| 07:30.53 | Agouti | purl: forget lightbulb |
| 07:31.02 | Vesuvius | purl what is bnet |
| 07:31.02 | purl | Vesuvius: what are you talking about? |
| 07:31.04 | Vesuvius | purl what is bnet2 |
| 07:31.04 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Vesuvius |
| 07:31.12 | Vesuvius | no one did an entry about bnet suckage?> |
| 07:31.13 | Vesuvius | fail |
| 07:31.14 | onetwo | purl who is rodrigo |
| 07:31.14 | purl | well, rodrigo is not a troll :( |
| 07:31.14 | Shawn|Rawr | purl eat a dick |
| 07:31.14 | purl | That's too disgusting. |
| 07:31.22 | Agouti | purl: no, lightbulb |
| 07:31.26 | Vesuvius | purl eat a cockroach |
| 07:31.26 | purl | ACTION slurps up all the a cockroach available |
| 07:31.32 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 07:31.41 | onetwo | bot = defeated |
| 07:31.44 | onetwo | 'all the a cockroach' |
| 07:31.54 | Tordy | h there |
| 07:32.03 | Shawn|Rawr | purl eat baby butter |
| 07:32.03 | purl | ACTION eats baby butter and falls over dead |
| 07:32.11 | Vesuvius | purl eat girlfriend |
| 07:32.12 | purl | ACTION eats girlfriend and falls over dead |
| 07:32.24 | Agouti | purl: no, forget lightbulb |
| 07:32.29 | Agouti | ugh |
| 07:32.41 | Vesuvius | purl eat agouti |
| 07:32.41 | purl | ACTION slurps up all the agouti available |
| 07:32.49 | Agouti | mmmmm |
| 07:32.53 | Agouti | cannot remove factoid 'lightbulb', too old. (14963.3131134259>7200) use 'no,' instead |
| 07:32.55 | Vesuvius | purl is that some kind of italian dinner? |
| 07:33.00 | Shawn|Rawr | purl forget a lightbulb |
| 07:33.00 | purl | Shawn|Rawr: i didn't have anything called 'a lightbulb' to forget |
| 07:33.11 | Shawn|Rawr | purl forget lightbulb |
| 07:33.25 | Vesuvius | purl agouti is some sort of italian dinner |
| 07:33.25 | purl | okay, Vesuvius |
| 07:33.27 | Shawn|Rawr | purl no lightbulb |
| 07:33.32 | Vesuvius | purl what is agouti |
| 07:33.32 | purl | Vesuvius: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:33.37 | Vesuvius | purl who is agouti |
| 07:33.37 | purl | hmm... agouti is some sort of italian dinner |
| 07:33.37 | Shawn|Rawr | RAWR |
| 07:33.43 | Shawn|Rawr | purl who is xenox |
| 07:33.43 | purl | hmm... xenox is a person who is very confused by actor events |
| 07:33.49 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:33.50 | onetwo | i love that one |
| 07:33.57 | Shawn|Rawr | purl what is microsoft |
| 07:33.57 | purl | "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuum cleaners." |
| 07:34.03 | Agouti | how |
| 07:34.08 | Agouti | so you get those responses |
| 07:34.09 | onetwo | purl what is Apple |
| 07:34.09 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, onetwo |
| 07:34.15 | onetwo | purl what is Blizzard |
| 07:34.15 | purl | well, blizzard is the best developer ever. or at least eyonix says so. |
| 07:34.20 | onetwo | purl what is Google |
| 07:34.20 | purl | google is probably http://google.com |
| 07:34.28 | Tordy | purl what is sc2mapster |
| 07:34.28 | purl | Tordy: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:34.29 | onetwo | purl what is wikileaks |
| 07:34.29 | purl | onetwo: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:34.42 | onetwo | purl what is Rosie O Donnell |
| 07:34.42 | purl | onetwo: what are you talking about? |
| 07:34.43 | Agouti | purl: wikileaks is a joke |
| 07:34.44 | purl | okay, Agouti |
| 07:34.46 | Vesuvius | purl what is facebook |
| 07:34.46 | purl | Vesuvius: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:34.46 | Tordy | purl what is eggy |
| 07:34.46 | purl | Tordy: what are you talking about? |
| 07:34.50 | Tordy | purl what is prog |
| 07:34.50 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Tordy |
| 07:34.53 | Agouti | purl, what is wikileaks |
| 07:34.53 | purl | hmm... wikileaks is a joke |
| 07:34.55 | Vesuvius | purl why don't you know anything |
| 07:34.55 | purl | why not? |
| 07:34.56 | Shawn|Rawr | purl what is boredom |
| 07:34.57 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, boredom is the main motivation for you people talking to me, dont think I dont realise that. |
| 07:35.02 | Tordy | purl what is progammer |
| 07:35.02 | purl | somebody said progammer was a guy who will kick you in the balls before you know what happened |
| 07:35.07 | Agouti | purl, forget wikileaks |
| 07:35.08 | purl | i forgot wikileaks, Agouti |
| 07:35.11 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 07:35.15 | onetwo | who wrote those |
| 07:35.25 | Tordy | hi purl |
| 07:35.27 | Tordy | purl test |
| 07:35.29 | onetwo | purl who is ekcolnovkol |
| 07:35.29 | purl | onetwo: what are you talking about? |
| 07:35.29 | Agouti | purl: wikileaks = a joke |
| 07:35.30 | Vesuvius | purl who is progammer |
| 07:35.30 | purl | progammer is probably a guy who will kick you in the balls before you know what happened |
| 07:35.38 | Agouti | purl: wikileaks is "a joke" |
| 07:35.38 | purl | okay, Agouti |
| 07:35.41 | Agouti | purl, forget wikileaks |
| 07:35.41 | purl | Agouti: i forgot wikileaks |
| 07:35.46 | Agouti | purl, what is wikileaks |
| 07:35.46 | purl | Agouti: what are you talking about? |
| 07:35.54 | Agouti | purl: wikileaks is "a joke" |
| 07:35.54 | purl | okay, Agouti |
| 07:35.56 | Agouti | purl, what is wikileaks |
| 07:35.57 | purl | wikileaks is probably "a joke" |
| 07:36.00 | Agouti | ugh |
| 07:36.03 | Agouti | purl, forget wikileaks |
| 07:36.03 | purl | Agouti: i forgot wikileaks |
| 07:36.09 | Agouti | I want |
| 07:36.17 | onetwo | purl who is purl |
| 07:36.17 | purl | onetwo: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:36.18 | Agouti | to get those responses |
| 07:36.25 | Agouti | so you can set the whole thing |
| 07:36.30 | Agouti | with the "i think blah is blah" |
| 07:36.44 | Shawn|Rawr | purl i think wikileaks is a joke |
| 07:36.44 | purl | You think wikileaks is a joke? |
| 07:36.48 | Agouti | purl, help |
| 07:36.54 | Skizot | OH SNAPS SON |
| 07:36.54 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXtkrnnLjwo |
| 07:36.58 | Shawn|Rawr | purl help |
| 07:37.02 | Vesuvius | purl purl is a far prettier chatbot than you. |
| 07:37.02 | purl | okay, Vesuvius |
| 07:37.06 | Vesuvius | purl who is purl |
| 07:37.06 | purl | i guess purl is a far prettier chatbot than you. |
| 07:37.32 | Vesuvius | purl who is turing |
| 07:37.33 | purl | ...but I *AM* Turing complete!!!! |
| 07:37.47 | Vesuvius | wait is he really? |
| 07:37.54 | Vesuvius | I haven't gotten around to studying that shit yet |
| 07:37.55 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 07:39.12 | Vesuvius | purl who is richard |
| 07:39.12 | purl | well, richard is FOR PONY! |
| 07:39.18 | Vesuvius | what |
| 07:39.21 | Vesuvius | the hell |
| 07:40.00 | Vesuvius | are there any other mildly entertaining commands? |
| 07:40.10 | Vesuvius | purl die |
| 07:40.10 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 07:40.14 | onetwo | purl do you love me |
| 07:40.14 | purl | yes, I love me. |
| 07:40.16 | Vesuvius | purl live |
| 07:40.16 | purl | ACTION rises from the dead and starts eating people. |
| 07:40.22 | onetwo | purl you idiot |
| 07:40.43 | Vesuvius | purl blink |
| 07:40.43 | purl | a perl script that downloads random jpegs and draws them on your X11 display. URL: http://www.techweenie.net/dave/blink.html |
| 07:40.48 | Vesuvius | what |
| 07:40.59 | Vesuvius | purl agouti |
| 07:40.59 | purl | agouti is, like, some sort of italian dinner |
| 07:40.59 | Tordy | stop with the gifs bro |
| 07:41.04 | Tordy | purl who is Vesuvius |
| 07:41.04 | purl | Tordy: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:41.08 | Tordy | purl who is Tory |
| 07:41.08 | purl | Tordy: what are you talking about? |
| 07:41.12 | Tordy | purl who is Tordy |
| 07:41.12 | purl | from memory, tordy is not torday |
| 07:41.16 | Agouti | i am pretty delicous |
| 07:41.22 | Tordy | purl who is Agouti |
| 07:41.22 | purl | methinks agouti is some sort of italian dinner |
| 07:41.25 | Agouti | i've been told that by people who eat me out |
| 07:41.27 | Tordy | purl who is Lilianna |
| 07:41.27 | purl | Tordy: what are you talking about? |
| 07:41.32 | Tordy | purl who is DarkRevenant |
| 07:41.32 | purl | Tordy: what are you talking about? |
| 07:41.38 | DarkRevenant | ... |
| 07:41.42 | Demalii | there a way to remove unit , not kill unit? |
| 07:41.48 | onetwo | unit - remove unit |
| 07:41.49 | Agouti | purl: Lilianna is someone who loves italian dinners |
| 07:41.49 | purl | okay, Agouti |
| 07:41.51 | DarkRevenant | ~purl whoami |
| 07:41.51 | purl | you are darkrevenant, or ~DarkReven@ip72-197-184-165.sd.sd.cox.net on #sc2mapster and it's 2010.12.20. Don't believe me? Ask Funkeh`! |
| 07:41.53 | Demalii | hmm |
| 07:42.12 | Keo_ | How do you make a marine use stim? Add charge used for ability? |
| 07:42.19 | Demalii | just remove unit from waves is best i can find |
| 07:42.23 | Agouti | issue order |
| 07:42.24 | Lilianna | italian is quite good food |
| 07:42.27 | Keo_ | ah |
| 07:42.28 | Vesuvius | Funkeh` is what? |
| 07:42.33 | Agouti | purl, who am i |
| 07:42.33 | purl | agouti shut up, you are a nobody |
| 07:42.36 | Agouti | SNAP |
| 07:42.39 | Skizot | leave the bot alone you tools. |
| 07:42.43 | Vesuvius | why |
| 07:42.44 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXtkrnnLjwo |
| 07:42.44 | Agouti | nou |
| 07:42.47 | Vesuvius | purl who is skizot |
| 07:42.47 | purl | skizot is probably someone with the worst pickup lines in the history of life, the universe and everything |
| 07:42.47 | Skizot | watch the video |
| 07:43.01 | Vesuvius | purl knows the truth about skizot |
| 07:43.05 | Demalii | purl who is Demalii |
| 07:43.05 | purl | Demalii: what are you talking about? |
| 07:43.07 | Skizot | i a married with two kids and a wife who both likes women and brings them home. |
| 07:43.11 | Demalii | lol |
| 07:43.15 | Skizot | aka worst lines or not, I WIN. |
| 07:43.20 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 07:44.26 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm almost with you there |
| 07:44.33 | Shawn|Rawr | Cept I'm not old enough to be married |
| 07:44.42 | Shawn|Rawr | Or have kids |
| 07:44.52 | Shawn|Rawr | I get all the good parts of what you said haha |
| 07:45.29 | Vesuvius | your girlfriend brings her friends over for dinner shawn? |
| 07:46.01 | Shawn|Rawr | We definitely eat |
| 07:46.37 | Agouti | what is an agouti |
| 07:46.42 | Agouti | :P |
| 07:46.48 | Shawn|Rawr | purl what is an agouti |
| 07:46.48 | purl | Shawn|Rawr: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:46.54 | Shawn|Rawr | purl what is life |
| 07:46.55 | purl | from memory, life is a board game |
| 07:47.17 | Shawn|Rawr | purl what is monopoly |
| 07:47.17 | purl | methinks monopoly is gay, or a gay game with 100 versions |
| 07:47.36 | Tordy | purl who is Shawn|Rawr |
| 07:47.36 | purl | Tordy: what are you talking about? |
| 07:47.48 | Tordy | purl who is Tordy |
| 07:47.48 | purl | well, tordy is not torday |
| 07:47.53 | Tordy | purl who is Torday |
| 07:47.53 | purl | Tordy: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:48.29 | Agouti | purl: torday is today, only said like a redneck |
| 07:48.29 | purl | Agouti: okay |
| 07:49.03 | Shawn|Rawr | purl what is cake |
| 07:49.03 | purl | somebody said cake was a lie! and rick rolls people. |
| 07:49.15 | Vesuvius | purl what is a lie |
| 07:49.15 | purl | Vesuvius: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:49.28 | Shawn|Rawr | purl what is meaning of life |
| 07:49.28 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, meaning of life is 42 |
| 07:49.34 | Vesuvius | purl a lie was cake! and rick rolls people. |
| 07:49.45 | Vesuvius | purl "a lie" was cake! and rick rolls people. |
| 07:49.48 | Vesuvius | :( |
| 07:49.59 | Vesuvius | purl youneed better syntax |
| 07:50.27 | DarkRevenant | ... |
| 07:50.35 | Keo_ | Is there a way to enable stim for some marines and not the rest? |
| 07:50.58 | DarkRevenant | ~purl whois Tordy |
| 07:50.58 | purl | [tordy] not torday |
| 07:53.16 | Shawn|Rawr | purl i hope you die |
| 07:53.16 | purl | You hope you die? |
| 07:53.30 | Shawn|Rawr | purl i hope i die |
| 07:53.30 | purl | You hope i die? |
| 07:53.33 | Shawn|Rawr | yes |
| 07:55.10 | XenoX101 | purl i hope purl dies |
| 07:55.10 | purl | You hope purl dies? |
| 07:55.12 | Shawn|Rawr | CES is coming! |
| 07:55.31 | XenoX101 | its an absolute bot ;p |
| 07:55.53 | Vesuvius | NO WAY |
| 07:56.00 | Vesuvius | purl who is xenox |
| 07:56.00 | purl | hmm... xenox is a person who is very confused by actor events |
| 07:56.57 | Skizot | you people are retarded. |
| 07:57.11 | Vesuvius | purl who is skizot |
| 07:57.12 | purl | from memory, skizot is someone with the worst pickup lines in the history of life, the universe and everything |
| 07:57.12 | Skizot | you are trying to have a conversation with a few hundred lines of code. |
| 07:57.18 | Vesuvius | yeah |
| 07:57.22 | Vesuvius | i agree purl |
| 07:57.28 | Vesuvius | that was one horrible pick up line |
| 08:03.41 | XenoX101 | conversations with code, for some reason that doesn't sound all that surprising ;p |
| 08:05.46 | Shawn|Rawr | I'd make a chat bot in my map if I knew how |
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| 08:26.22 | Demalii | anyone know of a way to, make text into a doodad kind of thing? |
| 08:26.32 | Demalii | or would i just have to create a model and import? |
| 08:27.55 | Helral|Work | you mean like Text Tags? |
| 08:28.06 | Helral|Work | so you can place them and they float there? |
| 08:30.23 | Agouti | Helral|Work: www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdYsOs8TpD4 |
| 08:30.59 | Helral|Work | what's with that movie? (I'm @work atm ;p so not watching it ;p ) |
| 08:31.02 | Demalii | well |
| 08:31.03 | Agouti | awww |
| 08:31.08 | Agouti | you would like it |
| 08:31.18 | Demalii | helral: I'm using a 90' camera angel so it's an overhead |
| 08:31.23 | Agouti | super cute and involves a big cat ;) |
| 08:31.23 | Demalii | can i make the text flat? |
| 08:31.34 | Demalii | in a vertical manor |
| 08:31.39 | Demalii | so people can read on the side |
| 08:32.24 | Helral|Work | I never played around with text-tags. think those are always readable though. |
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| 08:32.40 | Helral|Work | if you don't want that then you'd prolly need a model with the letters. |
| 08:33.21 | Helral|Work | bleh I don't like the temp outside.... |
| 08:34.34 | Agouti | I do |
| 08:34.37 | Agouti | it's luuuurvly |
| 08:34.53 | Demalii | i'll look into it thanks |
| 08:34.59 | Agouti | helral: know anything about experience sharing? |
| 08:35.10 | Agouti | I want a unit to get a xp slice of anything killed on the map |
| 08:35.17 | Helral|Work | hmmm think they made it easier then in beta ;p |
| 08:35.30 | Agouti | shh don't say that |
| 08:37.43 | Helral|Work | is it just for 1 unit from any kill? |
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| 08:37.52 | Helral|Work | or is it from any allied kill? ;p |
| 08:37.59 | Agouti | I found it |
| 08:38.04 | Agouti | I think |
| 08:38.06 | Agouti | ally kill |
| 08:38.22 | Agouti | so set Shared fraction to w/e and Shared Radius to 500 |
| 08:38.39 | Helral|Work | good cause what I needed to do during beta was a search area which adds xp. instead of something simple like that. |
| 08:40.10 | Reactorex | onetwo: I think Martul's restless spirit would be set at rest with the next patch, maybe? XD |
| 08:40.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:40.41 | onetwo | UI layouts |
| 08:40.44 | Reactorex | Mhm. |
| 08:40.45 | Agouti | I beleive it's ally's, anyway, it doesn't specify :s |
| 08:40.50 | onetwo | reactorex im about to go test my prisoner rebel map |
| 08:40.52 | onetwo | want tocome? |
| 08:41.07 | Reactorex | I do, but I really need sleep now. XD I've been up way too long. |
| 08:41.11 | onetwo | ooh np |
| 08:41.19 | Reactorex | ... I'll probably come anyways, |
| 08:41.20 | Reactorex | XD |
| 08:42.38 | onetwo | well im ingame |
| 08:42.41 | onetwo | onetwo.855 |
| 08:42.45 | onetwo | anyone want to come test my map :D |
| 08:43.11 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 08:43.15 | onetwo | NA |
| 08:43.16 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:43.20 | Reactorex | Is taking a long time to load. :P |
| 08:43.28 | Reactorex | My RAM is maxxed and SC2 is fullscreened. |
| 08:43.40 | Agouti | <- has 8gb |
| 08:43.51 | Helral|Work | <- has work ;p |
| 08:43.52 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:44.06 | Reactorex | 'cause I'm running two compilers, two operating systems, a browser, and SC2. |
| 08:44.32 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:44.35 | onetwo | well message me soon |
| 08:44.38 | Agouti | that is a bit silly |
| 08:44.41 | onetwo | anyone else available to test an awesome map? |
| 08:44.48 | Agouti | sure |
| 08:44.55 | onetwo | onetwo.855 message me on US |
| 08:44.58 | onetwo | thanks a ton |
| 08:45.00 | Agouti | I didn't say I would |
| 08:45.06 | Agouti | just that I was able to |
| 08:45.09 | Agouti | -.o |
| 08:45.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster allenmelon_ (615d3ecf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.93.62.207) |
| 08:45.28 | Helral|Work | onetwo: I'm sure of it (8ball answer) |
| 08:46.23 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.05 | Reactorex | Mhm. :P |
| 08:47.13 | onetwo | k sent you invite |
| 08:48.33 | Reactorex | Wurz still shuttin things down :P |
| 08:50.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (~skizot@226-187.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 09:02.16 | Tordy | KOBE |
| 09:11.20 | Reactorex | encourages onetwo! |
| 09:11.25 | Reactorex | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:11.33 | onetwo | thx Reactorex |
| 09:11.37 | onetwo | and Agouti |
| 09:11.42 | Agouti | np |
| 09:11.42 | onetwo | and allenmelon_ |
| 09:11.44 | Reactorex | T'was fun. :D |
| 09:11.44 | onetwo | good test... |
| 09:11.52 | Agouti | bit more unit variety |
| 09:11.53 | Agouti | upgrades |
| 09:11.59 | Agouti | map feels like it should be bigger |
| 09:12.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster Slaydon (50cbea51@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.203.234.81) |
| 09:12.00 | onetwo | just like sheep tag, game is much more engaging with 2+ cops |
| 09:12.04 | Slaydon | o_o |
| 09:12.07 | onetwo | meh that game went on long enough |
| 09:12.09 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:12.11 | Agouti | yeah |
| 09:12.13 | Slaydon | 2 cops? |
| 09:12.15 | Agouti | but with 8 players... |
| 09:12.26 | onetwo | hmm |
| 09:12.27 | Agouti | you know the map I'm working on onetwo? |
| 09:12.30 | onetwo | nope |
| 09:12.37 | Agouti | kinda the same sort of theme |
| 09:12.41 | Agouti | except supersized |
| 09:12.49 | Agouti | and instead of captureing |
| 09:12.56 | Agouti | when you kill a hero they get swapped |
| 09:13.01 | Agouti | as a different unit |
| 09:13.03 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:13.14 | Slaydon | :l |
| 09:13.14 | Agouti | 11v1 |
| 09:13.15 | Slaydon | Im not amused. |
| 09:13.21 | Slaydon | Sooo |
| 09:13.23 | Reactorex | Do you know what map I'm working on? |
| 09:13.29 | Agouti | nope D: |
| 09:13.34 | Reactorex | None! XD |
| 09:13.38 | Agouti | BAM |
| 09:13.41 | Reactorex | I haven't gotten back to it yet. :P |
| 09:13.44 | Slaydon | My map is secret projects, helral knows some of it tho :3 |
| 09:13.50 | Slaydon | maybe even everything |
| 09:13.57 | Agouti | super duper secret that nobody knows about |
| 09:13.58 | Slaydon | looks around. |
| 09:14.00 | Agouti | cos nobody cares? |
| 09:14.02 | Agouti | :P |
| 09:14.23 | Agouti | the color of my underpants is also a total secret :o |
| 09:14.33 | onetwo | 11v1 haha |
| 09:14.37 | Agouti | ya |
| 09:14.39 | onetwo | the hardest part is getting the 12 players |
| 09:14.41 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:14.46 | Agouti | naww |
| 09:14.53 | Agouti | the original is on page 2 |
| 09:14.58 | onetwo | :D |
| 09:14.59 | Agouti | fills up pretty easily |
| 09:15.02 | A1win | and get them to stay the whole game ;p |
| 09:15.08 | Reactorex | Dude, it's liek, all of a sudden, the whole WORLD is against me!.. are you even listening? *sobs* I hate you. /breaks up |
| 09:15.09 | Agouti | most people usually stay |
| 09:15.11 | onetwo | itll be nice for 1.2's popularity |
| 09:15.18 | Agouti | oh? |
| 09:15.22 | onetwo | time based |
| 09:15.27 | Agouti | ooooh |
| 09:15.34 | Agouti | and is it affected by the number of people? |
| 09:15.41 | Agouti | like total plays |
| 09:15.43 | onetwo | unsure at this time |
| 09:15.45 | Agouti | not lobbies started |
| 09:15.45 | Reactorex | FINALLY TIME BASED? WOOT. |
| 09:15.48 | Agouti | cos if so |
| 09:15.53 | onetwo | whether its game times running or total players in games times running |
| 09:16.00 | Agouti | like it gets 70+ games/hour, most of which are full |
| 09:16.19 | Agouti | a lot of 3 player maps are going to get hit hard |
| 09:16.22 | Agouti | if thats the case |
| 09:17.01 | Reactorex | Not if a lot of peopel play them. o.o |
| 09:17.04 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/15536-1-2-popularity/#posts |
| 09:17.06 | onetwo | thats all we know |
| 09:17.12 | Agouti | but most games go for like 30min - hour |
| 09:17.17 | Slaydon | me map be singleplayer |
| 09:17.22 | Agouti | so that should help a lot |
| 09:17.22 | XenoX101 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.39 | Agouti | purl: who is xenox |
| 09:17.40 | purl | hmm... xenox is a person who is very confused by actor events |
| 09:17.46 | onetwo | most of my maps can or have lastes an hour and are 12 player maps |
| 09:17.50 | onetwo | they fell off of page 1 very fast |
| 09:17.55 | onetwo | as we all know reactorex |
| 09:17.55 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:18.08 | Reactorex | xD |
| 09:18.22 | Reactorex | But we also got them up to page 1 very fast. XD |
| 09:18.28 | Agouti | the version of ID I'm working on - because it's changed owners - is still about page 5 since the reset |
| 09:18.34 | Agouti | it was hovering low 3 |
| 09:18.37 | Agouti | while in beta |
| 09:19.15 | Agouti | people are slowly migrating across |
| 09:19.23 | Agouti | in no rush, gives me more time to polish it |
| 09:19.25 | Reactorex | purl: who is purl |
| 09:19.25 | purl | from memory, purl is a far prettier chatbot than you. |
| 09:19.31 | Agouti | aw |
| 09:19.33 | Agouti | :( |
| 09:19.37 | Reactorex | but... but... |
| 09:19.40 | Reactorex | I'm chatty! |
| 09:19.42 | Agouti | pur? |
| 09:19.45 | Agouti | purl? |
| 09:19.48 | XenoX101 | so I take that as a no eh |
| 09:19.50 | Reactorex | purrrrrrrrl. |
| 09:19.57 | Agouti | puuurrrrdrdrdrrrl |
| 09:20.10 | Reactorex | leedle? |
| 09:20.55 | Slaydon | Lidl |
| 09:21.21 | Slaydon | purl: do you have plans on answering me? |
| 09:21.21 | purl | yes, I have plans on answering me. |
| 09:21.53 | Slaydon | purl: What is your favorite color in the periodic table of elements that elephants weared the first december? |
| 09:21.54 | purl | Slaydon: what are you talking about? |
| 09:22.02 | XenoX101 | I have a glowing effect on my dark templars blade, but it sticks out about 0.5 away from him |
| 09:22.10 | Slaydon | purl: what is a color? |
| 09:22.10 | purl | 13C12O5L8O9R6! |
| 09:22.14 | Slaydon | Sweet., |
| 09:22.23 | XenoX101 | it follows his weapon but it sticks out |
| 09:22.27 | Slaydon | purl: and what color is that? |
| 09:22.28 | purl | okay, Slaydon |
| 09:22.30 | XenoX101 | anyone got any ideas? |
| 09:22.35 | Slaydon | oaky? |
| 09:22.44 | Slaydon | purl: did you mean oaky? |
| 09:23.04 | Slaydon | AGOUTI YOU DESTROYED HIM |
| 09:23.09 | Slaydon | purl: did he destroy you? |
| 09:23.20 | Slaydon | purl: yes, and he is stupid! |
| 09:23.20 | purl | ACTION && he is stupid! = ??? |
| 09:23.22 | XenoX101 | so I see we're being productive as usual here ;p |
| 09:23.24 | Slaydon | 3: |
| 09:23.36 | Slaydon | purl: did you mean the color oaky? |
| 09:23.37 | onetwo | hey |
| 09:23.38 | onetwo | Agouti |
| 09:23.43 | onetwo | how do i hide the health bar on the gates |
| 09:23.44 | Agouti | mmm |
| 09:23.48 | onetwo | in actor somewhere right |
| 09:23.49 | Agouti | actor |
| 09:23.56 | Agouti | just search for bar |
| 09:24.00 | Slaydon | purl: oaky? |
| 09:24.01 | Agouti | use table view :3 |
| 09:24.12 | Slaydon | purl: What level do you need to be for using a helmet? |
| 09:24.16 | Slaydon | omg! |
| 09:24.18 | Slaydon | D: |
| 09:24.21 | XenoX101 | table view? |
| 09:24.22 | onetwo | and change width to 0? |
| 09:24.23 | onetwo | or what |
| 09:24.27 | Slaydon | purl: color |
| 09:24.27 | purl | 13C12O5L8O9R6! |
| 09:24.28 | Agouti | purl, what is slaydon |
| 09:24.28 | purl | somebody said slaydon was really annoying |
| 09:24.29 | onetwo | distnace, height, offset, width |
| 09:24.31 | Agouti | nono |
| 09:24.33 | onetwo | are my options for the hp bar |
| 09:24.45 | XenoX101 | purl, forget XenoX101 |
| 09:24.45 | purl | XenoX101: i didn't have anything called 'xenox101' to forget |
| 09:24.45 | Slaydon | agouti is a bread |
| 09:24.49 | XenoX101 | oh |
| 09:24.50 | Slaydon | purl: what is agouti? |
| 09:24.51 | purl | Slaydon: what are you talking about? |
| 09:24.53 | XenoX101 | purl, forget xenox |
| 09:24.54 | purl | XenoX101: i forgot xenox |
| 09:25.03 | Agouti | FieldReactor (Unnamed) |
| 09:25.05 | Agouti | UI - Status Bar FlagsShields, Life, Energy, Cargo, Progress, Duration |
| 09:25.06 | Slaydon | purl, Agouti is a bread. |
| 09:25.06 | purl | ...but agouti is already something else... |
| 09:25.09 | onetwo | that one? |
| 09:25.12 | onetwo | uncheck life? |
| 09:25.15 | Slaydon | Ooooo |
| 09:25.16 | Agouti | yuooers |
| 09:25.20 | Agouti | *yuppers |
| 09:25.25 | onetwo | awesome thanks |
| 09:25.26 | Slaydon | purl, forget Slaydon |
| 09:25.27 | purl | i forgot slaydon, Slaydon |
| 09:25.28 | Agouti | np |
| 09:25.37 | Slaydon | purl: what is slaydon? |
| 09:25.38 | purl | Slaydon: I think you lost me on that one |
| 09:25.41 | Slaydon | booha |
| 09:25.42 | Slaydon | booja |
| 09:25.55 | Slaydon | purl, Slaydon is epix awesome kewl |
| 09:25.55 | purl | ...but slaydon is already something else... |
| 09:26.00 | Slaydon | no im not? |
| 09:26.05 | Slaydon | D: |
| 09:26.11 | Reactorex | who is slaydon |
| 09:26.16 | Reactorex | purl, who is slaydon? |
| 09:26.16 | purl | [slaydon] still annoying |
| 09:26.26 | Slaydon | ffff |
| 09:26.35 | Agouti | purl knows. |
| 09:26.35 | purl | Not as well as [NewsBot] |
| 09:26.39 | Reactorex | purl, who is Reactorex? |
| 09:26.40 | purl | Reactorex: what are you talking about? |
| 09:26.45 | Slaydon | LOL |
| 09:26.49 | Reactorex | :D |
| 09:26.52 | Slaydon | purl, Reactorex is a cake |
| 09:26.52 | purl | Slaydon: okay |
| 09:27.00 | Slaydon | purl: what is reactorex? |
| 09:27.01 | purl | rumour has it, reactorex is a cake |
| 09:27.08 | Slaydon | I knew it. |
| 09:27.16 | Slaydon | purl: Should we eat him? |
| 09:27.23 | Slaydon | ff |
| 09:27.26 | Reactorex | :P |
| 09:27.36 | Slaydon | <purl> yes we should and he should taste good. |
| 09:28.16 | Slaydon | purl, forget slaydon |
| 09:28.16 | purl | i forgot slaydon, Slaydon |
| 09:28.17 | Agouti | purl: should we eat reactorex? |
| 09:28.32 | Slaydon | purl, Slaydon bread is |
| 09:28.45 | Slaydon | purl: who is slaydon? |
| 09:28.45 | purl | methinks slaydon is still annoying |
| 09:28.51 | Slaydon | 333: |
| 09:28.55 | Reactorex`SLEEEP | XD |
| 09:29.05 | Reactorex`SLEEEP | nite. |
| 09:29.05 | XenoX101 | does ProzaicMuse ever come on here? |
| 09:29.14 | Slaydon | can someone ban purl? |
| 09:29.20 | Slaydon | D::::: |
| 09:29.27 | Agouti | ~seen ProzaicMuse |
| 09:29.30 | purl | prozaicmuse <~Fretless@ip68-4-173-237.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 79d 12h 10m 17s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 09:29.30 | Slaydon | Xeno, yes he does. |
| 09:29.36 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 09:29.39 | Agouti | there is your answer |
| 09:29.40 | Slaydon | lol |
| 09:29.47 | XenoX101 | that is a long time |
| 09:29.49 | Slaydon | ~seen nazi |
| 09:29.49 | purl | i haven't seen 'nazi', Slaydon |
| 09:29.57 | onetwo | ~seen prozaicmuze |
| 09:29.57 | purl | prozaicmuze <~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 27d 14h 47m 4s ago, saying: 'not your sexy woman model'. |
| 09:29.59 | XenoX101 | Slaydon I take it you are bored |
| 09:30.10 | onetwo | purl who is prozaicmuze |
| 09:30.10 | purl | well, prozaicmuze is a being of pure light descended from a higher plane to grace the wicked creature that is man with his blessings of knowledge. |
| 09:30.11 | XenoX101 | well thats a bit more optimistic |
| 09:30.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster ducky (53f1057d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.241.5.125) |
| 09:30.17 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:30.17 | XenoX101 | that sounds about right |
| 09:30.30 | Slaydon | ~seen q_p |
| 09:30.31 | purl | q_p <n=none@h150n3-vrr-gr1.ias.bredband.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 462d 16h 49m 3s ago, saying: 'What kinf of package is wnpp? I was trying to see if OneSwarm was a part of Debian and found this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525059 but aptitude show wnpp tells me nothing of this package.'. |
| 09:30.43 | Slaydon | booja |
| 09:30.49 | XenoX101 | here Slaydon |
| 09:30.51 | XenoX101 | http://www.primarygames.com/arcade/skill/qwop/index.htm |
| 09:30.54 | ducky | hello good people, can someone help me make a validator? |
| 09:30.58 | XenoX101 | amuse yourself |
| 09:31.01 | Slaydon | noes |
| 09:31.07 | XenoX101 | ducky I might |
| 09:31.08 | XenoX101 | maybe |
| 09:31.11 | Slaydon | says the cake. |
| 09:31.29 | ducky | i want to make a validator which will return false if there are no "light" units in area |
| 09:31.40 | Slaydon | purl, XenoX101 is a noob and a retard, because he eats his dinner with a fork and knife. |
| 09:31.40 | purl | okay, Slaydon |
| 09:31.46 | Slaydon | purl: who is Xenox101? |
| 09:31.46 | purl | [xenox101] a noob and a retard, because he eats his dinner with a fork and knife. |
| 09:31.56 | XenoX101 | you will need to first create a behaviour to buff the units as 'light' |
| 09:32.04 | XenoX101 | then you need to use a Unit Compare Behaviour Count validator |
| 09:32.09 | Slaydon | Im gonna abuse this bot alot. |
| 09:32.23 | Slaydon | ~seen Xaragoth |
| 09:32.24 | purl | xaragoth <~name@pD9FFA718.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 8h 55s ago, saying: ':D'. |
| 09:32.29 | XenoX101 | with "Equal to" 0 |
| 09:32.33 | XenoX101 | as the parameters |
| 09:32.34 | Agouti | purl, who is xenox101? |
| 09:32.35 | purl | Agouti: what are you talking about? |
| 09:32.56 | Slaydon | purl: who is XenoX101? |
| 09:32.57 | purl | Slaydon: what are you talking about? |
| 09:33.06 | Slaydon | purl: you know, our friend? |
| 09:33.22 | Agouti | listens intently |
| 09:33.34 | Agouti | purl, what am I |
| 09:33.34 | purl | *squeak!* get a way from me, you freak! |
| 09:33.44 | Agouti | haha |
| 09:33.47 | XenoX101 | Validator - Behaviour = your buff, Validator - Compare = Equal To, Validator - Value = 0 |
| 09:33.52 | XenoX101 | for the validator |
| 09:33.56 | Agouti | purl, what is a validator |
| 09:33.56 | purl | Agouti: what are you talking about? |
| 09:33.59 | Slaydon | purl: what is the moon? |
| 09:34.00 | purl | Slaydon: I think you lost me on that one |
| 09:34.13 | Shawn|Rawr | purl live |
| 09:34.13 | purl | ACTION rises from the dead and starts eating people. |
| 09:34.13 | Slaydon | purl: is the moon bigger than an elephant? |
| 09:34.22 | Agouti | purl, a validator is a condition used to check actions in the data editor |
| 09:34.22 | purl | okay, Agouti |
| 09:34.24 | Slaydon | shawn, that was nasy. |
| 09:34.29 | Slaydon | purl die |
| 09:34.29 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 09:34.36 | XenoX101 | purl, what is a validator |
| 09:34.36 | purl | rumour has it, validator is a condition used to check actions in the data editor |
| 09:34.50 | Shawn|Rawr | We could start our own guide right here |
| 09:34.50 | Agouti | it does something useful! |
| 09:34.56 | XenoX101 | aha |
| 09:35.07 | XenoX101 | so.. can anyone help with me attachment points or should I cry in my sleep tonight |
| 09:35.15 | Agouti | purl, wikipedia galaxy edit |
| 09:35.25 | XenoX101 | I've done the 'hard' work of attaching the effect |
| 09:35.29 | XenoX101 | it just doesnt attach very nicely |
| 09:35.32 | Agouti | purl, wikipedia Thrombosis |
| 09:35.52 | Agouti | well that is not well written |
| 09:35.54 | XenoX101 | purl, your mum |
| 09:35.54 | purl | No, _your_ mum! |
| 09:35.59 | XenoX101 | oh snap |
| 09:36.01 | onetwo | night |
| 09:36.05 | Agouti | purl, shut up |
| 09:36.05 | purl | i'm sorry, master agouti |
| 09:36.07 | XenoX101 | night |
| 09:36.11 | Agouti | night |
| 09:36.14 | onetwo | :D |
| 09:36.21 | Agouti | purl, kiss me |
| 09:36.21 | purl | ACTION forces agouti to give Dryeyece a big kiss on the lips |
| 09:36.25 | Slaydon | purl, wikipedia LopadoÂÂtemachoÂÂselachoÂÂgaleoÂÂkranioÂÂleipsanoÂÂdrimÂÂhypoÂÂtrimmatoÂÂsilphioÂÂparaoÂÂmelitoÂÂkatakechyÂÂmenoÂÂkichlÂÂepiÂÂkossyphoÂÂphattoÂÂperisterÂÂalektryonÂÂopteÂÂkephallioÂÂkigkloÂÂpeleioÂÂlagoioÂÂsiraioÂÂbapheÂÂtraganoÂÂpterygon |
| 09:36.33 | Slaydon | fu |
| 09:37.01 | Slaydon | purl, wikipedia Hippopotomonstrosesquipedalian |
| 09:37.08 | Slaydon | wth. |
| 09:37.14 | Dryeyece | lol |
| 09:37.24 | Agouti | sorry about the beep Dry |
| 09:37.28 | Agouti | not my fault |
| 09:37.31 | Agouti | 3: |
| 09:37.32 | Slaydon | purl, wikipedia hippopotomonstrosesquipedalian |
| 09:37.38 | Dryeyece | its ok |
| 09:37.39 | Slaydon | there is one! |
| 09:37.46 | Slaydon | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hippopotomonstrosesquipedalian |
| 09:37.54 | Agouti | purl, hold me |
| 09:37.54 | purl | ACTION Embraces agouti in a giant bear hug. Then gets bored and uses agouti as a chew toy. |
| 09:38.01 | Agouti | ohm nohm nohm |
| 09:38.10 | Slaydon | lol, wasnt the word i were looking for neither |
| 09:38.13 | Agouti | purl, touch me |
| 09:38.13 | purl | This is Fendor's pleasure only |
| 09:38.37 | Slaydon | purl, hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia is The fear of long words. It is literally the hippopotamus- and monster-related fear of very long words. |
| 09:38.37 | purl | that's too long, Slaydon |
| 09:38.43 | Slaydon | D: |
| 09:38.49 | Agouti | it's a fake word |
| 09:38.51 | Agouti | anyway |
| 09:39.05 | Agouti | someone just took the latin for |
| 09:39.11 | Agouti | fear big word |
| 09:39.17 | Agouti | and decided that made an actual word |
| 09:39.19 | ducky | XenoX101 I'm afraid it's a little bit different. I basicly create a mine. I want to make it so that when any non light unit steps on it, the mine will create a different unit on top of itsalfe. I'm thinking of making a behaviour, which will create unit on it's removval. Behavior will be removed if validator is flase. now i want to create the validator. I'm thinking about enumerate area but can't really make it work. |
| 09:39.52 | Slaydon | purl, sesquipedalian is a long word or a person whom uses a long word. |
| 09:39.52 | purl | okay, Slaydon |
| 09:39.59 | Slaydon | there we go. |
| 09:40.13 | Agouti | why does it need to create a unit? |
| 09:40.34 | XenoX101 | Ducky, use a behaviour with a periodic effect of Search Area |
| 09:40.42 | XenoX101 | then put a validator on that Search Area |
| 09:40.50 | Agouti | Is Light |
| 09:40.51 | Slaydon | ducky, you mean a mine that explodes when a unit walks over it? |
| 09:40.58 | Agouti | or rather |
| 09:41.03 | Agouti | Is Not Light |
| 09:41.21 | Agouti | then that triggers an effect set |
| 09:41.26 | Agouti | which does what you want it to |
| 09:41.48 | Slaydon | purl, hippopotomonstrosesquipedalian is the fear of long words. |
| 09:41.48 | purl | Slaydon: okay |
| 09:41.56 | XenoX101 | enumerate areas won't help you |
| 09:41.57 | ducky | not light unit steps on mine -> destroy mine and create unit in position of mine |
| 09:42.02 | ducky | =[ |
| 09:42.08 | Agouti | yes |
| 09:42.13 | Agouti | we told you how to do it |
| 09:42.16 | Slaydon | are you trying to recreate the spider mine? |
| 09:42.27 | ducky | no, something different |
| 09:42.30 | Agouti | effect create persistant, periodic, search |
| 09:42.34 | Agouti | validator on search: |
| 09:42.38 | Agouti | Is Not Light |
| 09:42.41 | Agouti | effect |
| 09:42.49 | Agouti | Do Mine Go Boom Set |
| 09:42.52 | Agouti | contents |
| 09:42.54 | Agouti | create unit |
| 09:42.56 | Agouti | make boom |
| 09:43.03 | ducky | hm |
| 09:43.12 | ducky | it will search for not light unit |
| 09:43.14 | Slaydon | ducky, i believe the spider mine is set of 2 units, 1 burrowed and 1 when it is up, you could change that? and maybe tweak it abit. |
| 09:43.25 | XenoX101 | You will need a search to trigger a search |
| 09:43.30 | Agouti | slaydon: that is correct |
| 09:43.30 | XenoX101 | one search to find non light units |
| 09:43.33 | XenoX101 | second search for AoE damage |
| 09:43.39 | ducky | but it will only apply stuff to the unit which is searched, not caster? |
| 09:43.43 | Agouti | it has a search, which triggers the morph |
| 09:43.47 | Agouti | ducky: |
| 09:43.50 | XenoX101 | ducky, if you use a set |
| 09:43.57 | XenoX101 | you can have two effects, one for unit, one for caster |
| 09:43.57 | Agouti | the target in the effect |
| 09:43.59 | XenoX101 | or just caster |
| 09:44.03 | ducky | :O |
| 09:44.06 | Agouti | under the effect itself |
| 09:44.07 | ducky | thats damn right1 |
| 09:44.10 | Agouti | you have Target |
| 09:44.12 | XenoX101 | if you just want caster you can do it under the effect itself |
| 09:44.18 | XenoX101 | under Target |
| 09:44.20 | Agouti | either Caster or Target |
| 09:44.23 | Slaydon | 3; |
| 09:44.41 | ducky | I think i'm beggining to understand, thanks guys, will try it out now |
| 09:44.46 | XenoX101 | np |
| 09:45.01 | XenoX101 | now where was I, oh yes, banging my head against this wall here |
| 09:45.09 | Agouti | Xen: can you have an effect teleport a unit to a region? |
| 09:45.20 | Agouti | I am tempted to just do it in triggers |
| 09:45.23 | Slaydon | why dont you give him the ability to attack, and 0 damage ofcourse, and you can have an event seeing when 1 of those types try to attack and then replace / cast a morph ability there? |
| 09:45.38 | XenoX101 | don't think so Agouti |
| 09:45.40 | Agouti | I have an all-effect teleport, but it needs you to set the target |
| 09:45.59 | Agouti | I might be able to do it with a Search, range 500 |
| 09:45.59 | XenoX101 | wait |
| 09:46.01 | XenoX101 | do you mean region |
| 09:46.02 | Slaydon | purl: what is hippopotomonstrosesquipedalian? |
| 09:46.02 | purl | hmm... hippopotomonstrosesquipedalian is the fear of long words. |
| 09:46.02 | XenoX101 | as in |
| 09:46.05 | XenoX101 | region region |
| 09:46.07 | XenoX101 | or region as in area |
| 09:46.10 | Agouti | region around an object |
| 09:46.11 | XenoX101 | if area then yes |
| 09:46.11 | Slaydon | :3 |
| 09:46.13 | Agouti | as in |
| 09:46.14 | Agouti | a spot |
| 09:46.16 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 09:46.19 | Agouti | declared any which way |
| 09:46.20 | XenoX101 | dont use the word region ;X |
| 09:46.25 | Slaydon | rect. |
| 09:46.27 | Agouti | if it waws triggers |
| 09:46.28 | XenoX101 | yes you can teleport fom one area to another |
| 09:46.33 | XenoX101 | from* |
| 09:46.42 | Agouti | but the important part here |
| 09:46.49 | Agouti | is it must be effect instant |
| 09:46.51 | Agouti | not target |
| 09:47.08 | Agouti | I have it working as a targeted effect |
| 09:47.14 | Agouti | but it's cumbersome |
| 09:47.44 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 09:47.46 | Slaydon | :l |
| 09:48.13 | Agouti | I think I will do it with a search |
| 09:48.20 | XenoX101 | you will need to create an invisible unit |
| 09:48.24 | XenoX101 | with a behaviour buff |
| 09:48.25 | Agouti | fairly trivial to have a unique object |
| 09:48.28 | XenoX101 | no wait |
| 09:48.31 | Agouti | with a buff? |
| 09:48.32 | XenoX101 | a persistent |
| 09:48.40 | Agouti | can't you search just by unit type? |
| 09:48.42 | XenoX101 | and then you can target an effect's source |
| 09:48.48 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 09:48.57 | XenoX101 | yes you could |
| 09:49.10 | XenoX101 | if you only have one of those units |
| 09:49.22 | Agouti | it would be trivial to have a unique unit |
| 09:49.29 | Agouti | where I want him to go |
| 09:49.51 | ducky | ah, I asked wrong thing. what i needed was to ->create unit on position of mine after light unit leaes mines range<- D:, sorry can you help me again? |
| 09:49.54 | XenoX101 | ok then yes |
| 09:50.02 | XenoX101 | use search area with validator |
| 09:50.04 | Agouti | ducky |
| 09:50.05 | Agouti | yes |
| 09:50.11 | Agouti | but it's a bit more complicated |
| 09:50.14 | Agouti | the way I would do that |
| 09:50.15 | Agouti | is the same |
| 09:50.18 | Agouti | except on the search |
| 09:50.23 | Agouti | the Is Not Light search |
| 09:50.28 | Agouti | have it apply a buff to the mine |
| 09:50.32 | Agouti | which is like, Armed |
| 09:50.40 | Agouti | that buff in turn has a validator |
| 09:50.49 | Agouti | which is a search for Is Light |
| 09:51.03 | Agouti | so once the unit leaves, the buff expires |
| 09:51.09 | Agouti | then you can use the Effect - Expire |
| 09:51.12 | Agouti | to create the unit |
| 09:51.13 | Slaydon | ducky, give it the ability to attack ranged in the ranged area you want him to do so, and then you go to triggers and check if a unit attacks, condition : unit type is mine, and then replace triggering unit with yourunit. |
| 09:51.19 | XenoX101 | when Agouti says Not Light, use Light |
| 09:51.22 | Slaydon | :3 |
| 09:51.24 | XenoX101 | when he says Is Light, use Not Light |
| 09:51.26 | XenoX101 | he got confused ;p |
| 09:51.37 | Agouti | oh |
| 09:51.39 | Agouti | that |
| 09:51.39 | Agouti | yes |
| 09:51.48 | Agouti | so you have 1 search to create the buff |
| 09:51.53 | Agouti | then another to hold the buff |
| 09:51.56 | Agouti | and when it expires |
| 09:52.01 | Agouti | e.g. when the unit leaves |
| 09:52.08 | Agouti | that is what creates the boom |
| 09:52.23 | Agouti | or w/e |
| 09:52.23 | ducky | yea, i got it now, thank you ery much once again :D |
| 09:52.23 | Slaydon | data editor is way to confusing. |
| 09:52.23 | Agouti | np |
| 09:52.27 | Agouti | actually after a while it is very logical |
| 09:52.34 | Agouti | the worst part is trying to work out what new controls do |
| 09:52.34 | XenoX101 | it is superbly logical |
| 09:52.45 | Agouti | cos you are like |
| 09:52.56 | Agouti | wtf does FieldTech Reactor |
| 09:52.57 | Agouti | Actor - Snapshot ActorSnapshot |
| 09:53.00 | Agouti | do? |
| 09:53.03 | Slaydon | well, it gives me headaches. |
| 09:53.15 | Agouti | there are som eside effects |
| 09:53.16 | Agouti | yes |
| 09:53.28 | Agouti | having portions of you brain turned to curd IS one of them |
| 09:53.38 | Slaydon | yup |
| 09:53.52 | XenoX101 | my previewer says "error loading your file" in previewer |
| 09:53.55 | XenoX101 | when I want to view sounds |
| 09:54.11 | Shawn|Rawr | It hates you |
| 09:54.17 | XenoX101 | :( |
| 09:54.29 | Slaydon | Xenox |
| 09:54.32 | Shawn|Rawr | My map decided to keep giving me code errors.. |
| 09:54.42 | Slaydon | you dont view sounds in previewer silly. |
| 09:54.43 | Keo_ | what a slutty map |
| 09:54.46 | Shawn|Rawr | I though it was my 200 action triggers.. |
| 09:54.48 | Slaydon | you do it in imported |
| 09:54.49 | XenoX101 | where do I view them then |
| 09:54.53 | Shawn|Rawr | Turns out is was my array |
| 09:54.54 | Slaydon | Imported data. |
| 09:55.00 | Slaydon | if it is imported |
| 09:55.03 | Slaydon | or go to data editor |
| 09:55.08 | XenoX101 | it isnt imported |
| 09:55.25 | Slaydon | go to data editor sounds, and then browse sounds and preview them there |
| 09:55.32 | XenoX101 | mmk |
| 09:56.52 | XenoX101 | data editor won't let me preview |
| 09:57.49 | XenoX101 | actually it will but I have to go into each sound individually |
| 09:57.53 | XenoX101 | which is a royal pain |
| 09:59.36 | XenoX101 | ah wait |
| 09:59.39 | XenoX101 | I can turn off table view |
| 09:59.52 | XenoX101 | thats alright |
| 10:00.27 | Keo_ | How can I get the range of a target unit? |
| 10:00.38 | Keo_ | I know how to get properties like shields |
| 10:00.59 | Keo_ | but I do I get the number 6 if the target is a stalker? |
| 10:01.13 | Keo_ | Do I have to make a map? |
| 10:01.18 | Keo_ | array* |
| 10:01.29 | A1win | units don't have range, weapons do |
| 10:01.35 | Keo_ | right |
| 10:01.44 | A1win | dunno if you can get the range of a weapon |
| 10:01.52 | A1win | maybe with catalog |
| 10:02.30 | Keo_ | is catalog a map? |
| 10:02.50 | A1win | uh? ;p |
| 10:03.05 | A1win | it's a way for triggers to access data values |
| 10:03.09 | Keo_ | like strigns assocciated with values |
| 10:03.18 | A1win | ah |
| 10:03.24 | A1win | yeah think it works something like that |
| 10:03.28 | Keo_ | interesting |
| 10:03.35 | A1win | data value names -> values |
| 10:04.05 | A1win | but I've heard it doesn't work for everything |
| 10:04.38 | A1win | but umm |
| 10:04.51 | A1win | you can only get the range of a specific weapon with it, not the "current weapon" |
| 10:05.00 | A1win | so you'll probably need an array or a switch-case either way |
| 10:05.08 | Keo_ | aw |
| 10:15.43 | Agouti | it's because you can have multiple weapons attached |
| 10:15.50 | Agouti | purl: what is A1win |
| 10:15.50 | purl | Agouti: what are you talking about? |
| 10:16.32 | Agouti | Keo_: Catalogs is also how you change a unit's properties for 1 player only |
| 10:16.41 | Agouti | without applying behaviours or buffs |
| 10:24.14 | Keo_ | So how would you get the range from stalkers weapon, agouti? |
| 10:24.33 | Agouti | hmmm |
| 10:24.53 | Agouti | I actually don't know |
| 10:25.01 | Agouti | are you sure you need to pull it out, though? |
| 10:25.13 | Agouti | the range is immutable |
| 10:25.20 | Keo_ | its for my micro trigger |
| 10:25.25 | Agouti | it would be easier to just if/else if/else if/ |
| 10:25.28 | Keo_ | if range is long, micro inward |
| 10:25.35 | Keo_ | if its melee, then micro away |
| 10:25.39 | Agouti | oh right, so it is applied to many different units |
| 10:25.47 | Agouti | you could check for melee/ranged I think |
| 10:25.54 | Agouti | that is a seperate flag, I beleive |
| 10:25.58 | Agouti | maybe |
| 10:26.11 | Agouti | would still be on the weapon, though, as likely as not |
| 10:26.16 | Keo_ | How do you make a catalog? |
| 10:26.35 | Agouti | the catalog is all the data values of the units |
| 10:26.47 | Agouti | you don't make it, you can modify fields in it, though |
| 10:27.09 | Keo_ | oh its under presets |
| 10:27.15 | Agouti | once again |
| 10:27.18 | Agouti | just to be clear |
| 10:27.23 | Agouti | you do not create a catalog |
| 10:27.29 | Agouti | there is 1 catalog for each player |
| 10:27.35 | Keo_ | its built in |
| 10:27.36 | Agouti | and it contains all the information about units |
| 10:27.38 | Agouti | yes |
| 10:27.47 | Agouti | and not every field can be changed |
| 10:27.58 | Agouti | a large number are immutable and can't be touched |
| 10:28.24 | Keo_ | so with a target unit, can I look up its weapon in the catalog? |
| 10:28.41 | Agouti | weapon(s) |
| 10:28.45 | Agouti | it will be an array |
| 10:28.55 | Agouti | e.g. Thor |
| 10:29.11 | Keo_ | how do I get the array |
| 10:29.13 | Agouti | I think it would be easier |
| 10:29.16 | Agouti | honestly |
| 10:29.29 | Agouti | to just have a big array |
| 10:29.32 | Keo_ | lol |
| 10:29.35 | Agouti | with melee/ranged |
| 10:29.37 | Keo_ | thats so crude |
| 10:29.40 | Agouti | and set them all by hand |
| 10:29.41 | Agouti | perhaps |
| 10:30.01 | Agouti | but what do you do when there are multiple weapons? |
| 10:30.07 | Keo_ | idk |
| 10:30.16 | Agouti | you will have to make sure ground/ground ground/air |
| 10:30.21 | Agouti | air/ground air/air |
| 10:30.23 | Keo_ | ya |
| 10:30.27 | Agouti | are all handled correctly |
| 10:31.39 | Agouti | whenever you play with catalog stuff |
| 10:31.46 | Agouti | the way you work out what to do |
| 10:31.52 | Keo_ | there is only 1 catalog action |
| 10:31.59 | Agouti | is by looking in the data editor with Raw and Table turned on |
| 10:32.03 | Agouti | and Combine off |
| 10:32.18 | Agouti | yes, you can only set or get field values |
| 10:32.24 | Agouti | it's a database |
| 10:32.29 | Agouti | you can only save and load |
| 10:32.36 | Agouti | so |
| 10:32.40 | Agouti | to get the field name |
| 10:32.46 | Agouti | you need to go into the data editor |
| 10:32.56 | Agouti | raw, table on, combine off |
| 10:33.00 | Keo_ | how do I load? |
| 10:33.09 | Agouti | look for catalog |
| 10:33.12 | Agouti | in the triggers |
| 10:33.32 | Keo_ | only catalog field value set in triggers |
| 10:33.40 | Agouti | yes, because that is the only action |
| 10:33.46 | Agouti | if you were loading |
| 10:33.55 | Agouti | where would you be putting the function? |
| 10:34.04 | Agouti | not as an action |
| 10:34.10 | Keo_ | oh |
| 10:34.10 | Agouti | as a parameter |
| 10:34.22 | Agouti | so first make a Set Var action or something |
| 10:34.24 | Agouti | then look for it |
| 10:34.46 | Agouti | so, taking the Thor as an example |
| 10:34.49 | Keo_ | so you say I can view all the catalogs in data? |
| 10:34.53 | Agouti | because it's probably as hard as it will get |
| 10:35.03 | Agouti | Yes. |
| 10:35.16 | Agouti | As I have said, the way you get the field name |
| 10:35.22 | Agouti | is by looking in the data editor |
| 10:35.29 | Agouti | with Raw, Table turned on |
| 10:35.33 | Agouti | and Combine turned off |
| 10:35.37 | Keo_ | k |
| 10:35.51 | Keo_ | can I look at the weapon catalog separately? |
| 10:35.52 | Agouti | I hope I don't have to type everything out 3 times... |
| 10:35.57 | Keo_ | I read it |
| 10:35.59 | Agouti | I am getting there. |
| 10:36.02 | Keo_ | did that a long time ago |
| 10:36.03 | Agouti | So |
| 10:36.09 | Agouti | twice, however |
| 10:36.11 | Agouti | So |
| 10:36.13 | Agouti | for example |
| 10:36.22 | Agouti | your function will get given a unit |
| 10:36.38 | Agouti | so, you need to first find what weapons that unit has |
| 10:36.38 | Keo_ | type of unit |
| 10:36.46 | Agouti | yes, type of unit |
| 10:36.57 | Agouti | catalog fields do not exist for specific units |
| 10:37.12 | Agouti | everything in the data editor is with reference to types |
| 10:37.26 | Agouti | as I was saying |
| 10:37.48 | Agouti | your function is given a unit, or if you are pedantic, type of unit, however it will always refer to them as Unit: |
| 10:37.54 | Agouti | for isntance |
| 10:37.57 | Agouti | *instance |
| 10:38.03 | Agouti | if you open up the data editor |
| 10:38.07 | Agouti | go to units |
| 10:38.10 | Agouti | go to Thor |
| 10:38.19 | Agouti | turn on Raw, Table, and make sure Combine is off |
| 10:38.27 | Agouti | if you scroll down you will find |
| 10:38.28 | Agouti | FieldThor (Thor) |
| 10:38.29 | Agouti | CUnit_WeaponArray_Link(JavelinMissileLaunchers|##id##sHammer) |
| 10:39.03 | Agouti | any place you see ##ID## replace that with the ID of the unit |
| 10:39.06 | Agouti | or ability |
| 10:39.08 | Agouti | or whatever |
| 10:39.20 | Agouti | noting that the ID is different to the Name |
| 10:39.36 | Agouti | usually they are the same, but they can be different |
| 10:40.16 | Keo_ | k found it |
| 10:41.05 | Agouti | so the CUnit_ is to signify what type of catalog field it is |
| 10:41.10 | Agouti | that is not part of the name |
| 10:41.32 | Agouti | the name of the field is WeaponArray_Link |
| 10:41.47 | Tordy | that is not cool |
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| 10:41.51 | Agouti | now, the Field Get function will return a string |
| 10:42.08 | Agouti | you then need to process that string, pull out each weapon |
| 10:42.14 | Keo_ | so weaponarray is in the weapons catalog? |
| 10:42.24 | Agouti | no |
| 10:42.30 | Agouti | there is only 1 catalog |
| 10:42.33 | Agouti | well |
| 10:43.15 | Agouti | yes, you have to specify which type of field you are looking up |
| 10:43.24 | Agouti | for units it is Units |
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| 10:43.31 | Agouti | for weapons it will be Weapons |
| 10:43.45 | Agouti | I guess you would say they are different catalogs |
| 10:44.33 | Agouti | but you want Catalog Field Value Get |
| 10:44.45 | Agouti | Catalog will be Units |
| 10:45.05 | Agouti | Entry will be the ID of the unit |
| 10:45.11 | Keo_ | ah |
| 10:45.14 | Agouti | and Field Path will be the path of the field |
| 10:45.16 | Agouti | in this case |
| 10:45.17 | Agouti | WeaponArray_Link |
| 10:45.33 | Agouti | which will return (JavelinMissileLaunchers|##id##sHammer) |
| 10:45.36 | Agouti | or possibly |
| 10:45.42 | Agouti | (JavelinMissileLaunchers|ThorsHammer) |
| 10:45.51 | Agouti | then, once you have that |
| 10:45.55 | Keo_ | ah that makes sense |
| 10:46.11 | Agouti | you need to look up the weapon in the Weapons catalog |
| 10:46.13 | Agouti | and look for |
| 10:47.03 | Agouti | just plain old Range it seems |
| 10:47.17 | Agouti | so, in the case of the thor |
| 10:47.44 | XenoX101 | is there anything I can do to make sounds more noticeable from a far camera distance? |
| 10:47.46 | Keo_ | so look up thor in unit catalog, then look up its weapon in weapon catalog |
| 10:47.51 | Agouti | yes |
| 10:47.55 | Agouti | then for each weapon |
| 10:48.05 | Agouti | you would need to check it's TargetFilters |
| 10:48.14 | Agouti | if they contain Ground, it can attack ground |
| 10:48.21 | Agouti | if it contains Air, it can attack air |
| 10:48.26 | Agouti | some contain both |
| 10:48.32 | Agouti | like the Stalker |
| 10:48.46 | Agouti | Xenox: er, trigger or event? |
| 10:48.53 | Agouti | event I assume |
| 10:48.55 | XenoX101 | data |
| 10:48.56 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 10:49.06 | Agouti | I *think* so |
| 10:50.35 | Agouti | Maybe |
| 10:50.36 | Agouti | FieldWraith_AirAttackImpact |
| 10:50.37 | Agouti | Mode3D World Relative |
| 10:50.42 | Agouti | under Sounds? |
| 10:51.29 | Agouti | yeah I would say it's the Mode |
| 10:51.37 | Agouti | only thing I can see that would make sense |
| 10:51.44 | Agouti | unless you can set a flag in the event |
| 10:51.55 | Agouti | which you would have found if you could I'm guessing |
| 10:51.59 | Agouti | brb |
| 10:52.13 | Shawn|Rawr | Wouldnt it be easier to set the volume in the sound? |
| 10:52.37 | XenoX101 | can only be set lower for some silly reason |
| 10:53.37 | XenoX101 | where is this mode stuff agouti? |
| 10:53.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Also in the sound |
| 10:53.57 | Shawn|Rawr | In the data editor |
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| 10:59.17 | XenoX101 | yep that worked, set it to 2D |
| 10:59.17 | doite | Hey guys |
| 10:59.27 | XenoX101 | hello |
| 10:59.31 | doite | =) |
| 10:59.48 | doite | A1win |
| 10:59.50 | doite | u there mate? |
| 11:03.16 | doite | Ok ill ask it openly.. I have a semi third person shooter ( U play normal view, then u select a unit and press space and u go into third person mode). Problem is fog of war and shooting. To trigger damage on a unit your aiming at you make a trace line, but is it posssible to only (since traceline picks the closest unit to point (infont of you with 0.1 offset) ) shoot units thats visable |
| 11:03.25 | doite | and not in "fog of war" or whatever its called |
| 11:03.30 | doite | "shadow" |
| 11:03.45 | doite | I cant do it though distance check |
| 11:03.59 | doite | since that wont help if my ally makes them visable and im far away |
| 11:04.07 | doite | so it has to be "visable units" |
| 11:04.15 | doite | any conditions like that? |
| 11:04.22 | Shawn|Rawr | Hmm.. Is there a target filter you can use? |
| 11:04.31 | doite | I thought of units matching condition Shawn |
| 11:04.41 | doite | Excluding ALL but visable |
| 11:04.51 | doite | thats require. or is that just "not hidden" ? |
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| 11:05.21 | Shawn|Rawr | I think just requiring visible should do it |
| 11:05.24 | Shawn|Rawr | But i cant be sure |
| 11:05.51 | doite | that would be interesting |
| 11:05.57 | doite | ill make a condtions and show |
| 11:10.01 | A1win | doite, just do a unit filter match with "target unit is Required: Visible == true" |
| 11:10.23 | A1win | ...for player owner of attacking unit |
| 11:10.32 | doite | Jup just what i found |
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| 11:10.40 | doite | Hey man btw, and merry christmas=) |
| 11:10.50 | A1win | thanks ;x you too |
| 11:11.01 | A1win | but I'm leaving now for the rest of the day to play some board games :x |
| 11:12.23 | doite | =) |
| 11:12.24 | doite | Gl |
| 11:12.26 | doite | Hf |
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| 11:13.21 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 11:16.14 | doite | Question nr 2. |
| 11:16.15 | doite | =) |
| 11:17.01 | doite | Any condition to check if unit is in combat |
| 11:17.12 | doite | Unit in combat ==true |
| 11:17.15 | doite | Or attacked |
| 11:17.18 | doite | or whatever |
| 11:17.21 | doite | (not attacking) |
| 11:17.36 | Agouti | Unit Is Being Attacked |
| 11:18.07 | Agouti | is what the event is called |
| 11:18.15 | Agouti | are you doing this under data or trigger? |
| 11:19.22 | doite | trigger |
| 11:19.42 | doite | but i could do it in a event |
| 11:19.53 | Agouti | event as in trigger |
| 11:19.53 | doite | then add the unit to a unit group |
| 11:20.10 | doite | and set it as a condition in another trigger |
| 11:20.10 | Agouti | trigger encompasses everything done inside the trigger editor when asked like that :) |
| 11:20.24 | doite | but the problem is that theres no event " stopped being attacked" |
| 11:20.25 | Agouti | that would be a lot of load, though |
| 11:20.28 | Agouti | yes |
| 11:20.34 | Agouti | that is the problem |
| 11:20.48 | Agouti | but how do you define when a unit is no longer under attack? |
| 11:20.50 | doite | what i want is the player shouldnt be able to unselect hero when attacked |
| 11:21.01 | doite | well that he moves away and is NOT being attack |
| 11:21.02 | doite | ed |
| 11:21.03 | doite | so |
| 11:21.06 | Agouti | yes |
| 11:21.07 | Agouti | but |
| 11:21.10 | Agouti | in concrete terms |
| 11:21.12 | Agouti | define it |
| 11:21.18 | doite | i thought of used ability " move and wait 10 sec" |
| 11:21.19 | Agouti | .5 seconds after last hit from another unit? |
| 11:21.24 | Agouti | perhaps? |
| 11:21.33 | Agouti | but some weapons fire slower than that |
| 11:21.42 | doite | then 10 seconds? |
| 11:21.48 | Agouti | which is a long time |
| 11:21.53 | Agouti | probably |
| 11:21.56 | doite | ok to tell you what im making |
| 11:21.57 | Agouti | what you would need to do |
| 11:22.01 | doite | A dota similar map |
| 11:22.01 | Agouti | ok. |
| 11:22.04 | doite | But |
| 11:22.09 | doite | Its third person mode |
| 11:22.12 | doite | Or its both |
| 11:22.22 | Agouti | ok, well, if I *had* to do that |
| 11:22.32 | Agouti | I would probably do it in data |
| 11:22.36 | Agouti | rather than trigger |
| 11:23.03 | doite | You are above(as normal) then u select a unit and go into third person mode) .. then when u press space again u go OUT of third person mode, the owner ship is given back to "neutral player" and you dont have it as hero any more |
| 11:23.17 | doite | But i dont want the player to be able to do this when being attacked by another player |
| 11:23.23 | Xapti | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177912 |
| 11:23.29 | doite | Becouse if they do they will never be able to kill each other |
| 11:23.30 | XenoX101 | how do you set ability hotkey? |
| 11:23.34 | doite | since they will just leave |
| 11:23.40 | doite | Event xeno |
| 11:23.44 | doite | oh |
| 11:23.45 | XenoX101 | and what are ability and behaviour alignments |
| 11:23.45 | doite | nvm |
| 11:24.20 | doite | agouti did you understand what i ment? |
| 11:24.21 | Xapti | buttons are what use hotkeys right |
| 11:24.46 | Xapti | then that button must be on the command card |
| 11:24.47 | XenoX101 | right you are xapti |
| 11:24.48 | XenoX101 | thx |
| 11:25.07 | Xapti | and the standard GUI must be available to them also I think |
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| 11:25.18 | Agouti | but trigger wise would be something like event: Unit is attacked; apply behaviour that lasts 10 seconds |
| 11:25.42 | Agouti | that behaviour would modify state: uncommandable |
| 11:25.45 | Xapti | yeah and then when you want toswitch, make a condition "unit has behavior" |
| 11:26.05 | Agouti | which is pretty much the exact same way you would do it in data |
| 11:26.11 | doite | Agouti thats not right |
| 11:26.15 | Xapti | or moreso unit doesn't have behavior |
| 11:26.22 | Agouti | I said |
| 11:26.22 | Xapti | since youwant it so they haven't been attackd |
| 11:26.23 | doite | YOu stear with WASD |
| 11:26.24 | Agouti | Trigger |
| 11:26.42 | Agouti | fine |
| 11:26.44 | Agouti | in that case |
| 11:26.48 | doite | so uncommandable would just make him paralized |
| 11:26.49 | Agouti | start a 10 second timer |
| 11:26.53 | doite | ok |
| 11:26.55 | Agouti | well yes |
| 11:26.58 | Agouti | that is what you want |
| 11:26.59 | Agouti | isn't it? |
| 11:27.01 | doite | no |
| 11:27.03 | Agouti | you can't move it? |
| 11:27.07 | doite | nono |
| 11:27.15 | Agouti | right |
| 11:27.15 | Agouti | ok |
| 11:27.17 | Agouti | reread |
| 11:27.20 | Agouti | in that case |
| 11:27.23 | doite | i dont want the player to be able to "unselecect" the unit |
| 11:27.26 | Agouti | yes yes |
| 11:27.30 | doite | or "unchoose" the unit |
| 11:27.33 | Agouti | yes |
| 11:27.40 | Agouti | the way I would do it |
| 11:27.43 | Agouti | is have an array |
| 11:27.43 | doite | k |
| 11:27.47 | Agouti | which contains every unit |
| 11:27.55 | Agouti | I hope their aren't too many |
| 11:27.56 | Agouti | btw |
| 11:27.59 | Agouti | anyway |
| 11:28.07 | Agouti | event: any unit is attacked |
| 11:28.13 | Xapti | doite just make a dummy behavior |
| 11:28.22 | Agouti | or that |
| 11:28.27 | Agouti | actually |
| 11:28.27 | Agouti | yes |
| 11:28.28 | Agouti | that |
| 11:28.29 | Xapti | and then when player wants to switch |
| 11:28.34 | Xapti | check for condition |
| 11:28.35 | doite | yea |
| 11:28.39 | Agouti | it checks for the behaviour |
| 11:28.39 | Agouti | yes |
| 11:28.51 | Agouti | actually that would let you transfer most of it to data as well |
| 11:28.57 | doite | i hate data editor, i make 95% from triggers=) |
| 11:29.05 | Agouti | data is a lot faster than triggers |
| 11:29.08 | Agouti | generally |
| 11:29.18 | doite | But ill try, what would the dummy behavior do? |
| 11:29.32 | Agouti | the dummy behaviour (buff) would be on every unit |
| 11:29.47 | doite | aaaaaah... and if they have the buff they cant do anything? |
| 11:29.51 | Agouti | and under Damage Response it would apply another dummy behaviour, which would last for 10 seconds |
| 11:30.21 | Agouti | no, the first behaviour would be the one that applies the second, which is checked by your trigger |
| 11:31.06 | Agouti | damage response is a bit tough to get your head around |
| 11:31.10 | Agouti | I will brb in 5 min |
| 11:31.15 | Agouti | then I can walk you through it |
| 11:31.23 | doite | thx |
| 11:31.25 | Agouti | pure trigger would be a lot easier |
| 11:31.52 | Agouti | just event: unit takes any damage actions: apply behaviour to triggering unit (dummy behaviour) |
| 11:31.59 | doite | thats just what i mean |
| 11:32.02 | Agouti | and if it causes lag fix it then |
| 11:32.12 | doite | But what i dont know is how to mak "dummy behaviour" |
| 11:32.19 | Agouti | just create a behaviour |
| 11:32.22 | Agouti | which does nothing |
| 11:32.25 | Agouti | but expires in 10 seconds |
| 11:32.57 | Agouti | it's called a dummy because it doesn't actually do anything |
| 11:33.05 | Agouti | it's like a "stand in" |
| 11:33.31 | Agouti | then your trigger would be something like Behaviour Stack Count or w/e it's called |
| 11:33.34 | Agouti | make sure that is == 0 |
| 11:35.00 | doite | ill try it |
| 11:35.02 | Xapti | oh yeah that's annoying |
| 11:35.10 | Xapti | you're talking about the validator right |
| 11:35.20 | Xapti | I hate validators and stuff, one of those confusing this |
| 11:35.32 | Xapti | so much confusing stuff in the editor |
| 11:35.39 | Xapti | like 4 big thingsfor me |
| 11:36.39 | Xapti | biggest two is probably actor events, object sub-types (kinda generic) |
| 11:37.04 | doite | FieldHero attacked Stats - Duration10.0000 |
| 11:37.15 | doite | Just like that`? |
| 11:37.19 | Xapti | so many different types of validators, units, actors, behaviors, effects, they all have their own fields |
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| 11:38.02 | XenoX101 | hm, I accidently made my ability require the relative value of 5000% of my unit's energy to cast |
| 11:38.05 | XenoX101 | woops |
| 11:41.13 | XenoX101 | does anyone know how I might be able to make my spell cause the hero to ignore collision? |
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| 11:47.02 | Agouti | doite: yes |
| 11:47.13 | Agouti | xapti: hes doing in trigger over data |
| 11:47.22 | Agouti | so no validators :) |
| 11:47.57 | Agouti | Xen: can you modify the Collide state flag? |
| 11:48.00 | Agouti | if not |
| 11:48.07 | Agouti | can you enable/disable movers? |
| 11:49.12 | Agouti | otherwise, you might be able to do it with a validator on a buff |
| 11:49.19 | Agouti | ie a validator that looks for a buff |
| 11:50.01 | doite | Back |
| 11:50.03 | doite | Well |
| 11:50.05 | doite | FieldHero attacked Stats - Maximum Stack Count Per Caster0 |
| 11:50.07 | doite | And |
| 11:50.20 | doite | FieldHero attacked Stats - Maximum Stack Count1 |
| 11:50.27 | doite | I dont change these? |
| 11:50.48 | Agouti | you want the maximum stack count on -1, I beleive it is |
| 11:50.51 | Agouti | otherwise |
| 11:51.07 | Agouti | if the buff is active, with say 4 seconds remaining, and it gets attacked again |
| 11:51.12 | Agouti | it won't apply it |
| 11:51.16 | doite | ok |
| 11:51.27 | doite | but it wont (4 seconds let) be 14 then ? |
| 11:51.31 | doite | so it adds |
| 11:51.39 | doite | Becouse i wouldnt want that |
| 11:51.41 | Agouti | no |
| 11:51.44 | doite | k |
| 11:51.46 | doite | Ill try it |
| 11:51.46 | Agouti | it will be 1 buff with 4 |
| 11:51.49 | Agouti | and a second with 10 |
| 11:51.56 | doite | Cool |
| 11:52.42 | doite | And what should the condition be in the unselecting trigger? If Buff Hero attack on playerunit =! true? |
| 11:53.00 | Agouti | basically |
| 11:53.14 | Agouti | I think the one you want is called something like stack count of behaviour on unit |
| 11:54.41 | doite | hmm ill check it out |
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| 11:56.01 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:57.21 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:57.29 | doite | Looks good agouti! |
| 11:57.31 | doite | Ill try it out |
| 11:57.35 | XenoX101 | Agouti: what about if I swapped the unit for a unit that can avoid collision? |
| 11:57.42 | XenoX101 | cause I cant do any of that with behaviours |
| 11:57.46 | XenoX101 | or effects |
| 11:57.54 | Agouti | the collision is on the model |
| 11:57.56 | Agouti | I think |
| 11:58.05 | Agouti | maybe? |
| 11:58.09 | Agouti | no |
| 11:58.10 | Agouti | actor |
| 11:58.42 | Agouti | let me have a look |
| 11:58.47 | Agouti | still think there is a way with validators |
| 11:58.48 | XenoX101 | its the unit |
| 11:58.51 | XenoX101 | k |
| 11:59.43 | Agouti | you can't change the mover with a catalog set? |
| 11:59.55 | XenoX101 | catalog set? |
| 12:00.14 | Agouti | though that would change all units of that type owned by that player |
| 12:00.15 | XenoX101 | none of the behaviour modifications can do it |
| 12:00.19 | Agouti | the Mover |
| 12:00.20 | XenoX101 | oh |
| 12:00.23 | Agouti | change it from Ground to Air |
| 12:00.24 | Agouti | but |
| 12:00.29 | Agouti | that has problems |
| 12:00.32 | doite | Works INSANELY good agouti |
| 12:00.42 | doite | thanks |
| 12:00.44 | XenoX101 | yeah then they can go on non-ground |
| 12:00.46 | Agouti | np |
| 12:01.01 | Agouti | so you can't set collide via behaviour? |
| 12:01.09 | XenoX101 | nope |
| 12:01.41 | Agouti | I don't suppose Suppress Collision works? |
| 12:01.49 | XenoX101 | nah I tried that yesterday |
| 12:01.51 | Agouti | that would be too easy, though |
| 12:03.13 | XenoX101 | maybe I can make it work like burrowed roaches |
| 12:03.17 | XenoX101 | cause they can move through units |
| 12:03.39 | Agouti | .... what a clever idea |
| 12:03.49 | Agouti | you know it's a clever idea |
| 12:03.54 | Agouti | when as soon as you hear it |
| 12:03.55 | Agouti | you think |
| 12:04.05 | Agouti | why didn't *I* think of that? |
| 12:04.07 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 12:04.15 | Agouti | that would do the trick |
| 12:04.20 | Agouti | for sure |
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| 12:05.16 | Agouti | I'm still sure it's possible with validators and shit but burrowed is a movement plane just like fly |
| 12:05.20 | Agouti | only better |
| 12:05.26 | Agouti | cos you can't charge off a cliff |
| 12:05.28 | XenoX101 | yeah it uses the 'burrowed' mover |
| 12:05.51 | Agouti | probably would need to use a Morph |
| 12:05.55 | Agouti | and a second unit |
| 12:06.09 | Agouti | which I think you talked about earlier |
| 12:06.15 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 12:06.54 | Agouti | but you can just link everything so you don't have to change stuff twice |
| 12:07.02 | XenoX101 | oh? |
| 12:07.03 | Agouti | apart from life/energy/etc |
| 12:07.13 | XenoX101 | do I just duplicate the unit itself to do that? |
| 12:07.14 | Agouti | like just link all the abilities |
| 12:07.25 | XenoX101 | or what do I do |
| 12:07.30 | Agouti | yeah duplicate it but tick nothing extra |
| 12:07.36 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 12:07.43 | Agouti | which you would know |
| 12:07.43 | Shawn|Rawr | I love bacon |
| 12:07.52 | Agouti | Press Button |
| 12:07.55 | Agouti | Receive Bacon |
| 12:08.04 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 12:08.06 | Agouti | if you haven't seen the pic |
| 12:08.08 | Agouti | google |
| 12:08.10 | Agouti | :D |
| 12:08.59 | XenoX101 | hey Agouti |
| 12:09.08 | XenoX101 | I can set it to "Based on" my original hero |
| 12:09.12 | XenoX101 | then I can reset values to my mage |
| 12:09.21 | XenoX101 | just incase you didn't know that feature |
| 12:10.02 | XenoX101 | so if I make any major updates |
| 12:10.05 | XenoX101 | I just right click, reset to parent |
| 12:10.08 | XenoX101 | then modify the mover |
| 12:10.12 | XenoX101 | and the name |
| 12:10.28 | XenoX101 | (since its parent is my original hero) |
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| 12:11.58 | XenoX101 | hey what does the 'hidden' flag do on various things |
| 12:12.28 | Agouti | Xen: yeah |
| 12:12.32 | Agouti | that based on thing |
| 12:12.38 | Agouti | is what I was thinking when I meant Linked |
| 12:12.40 | Agouti | as well |
| 12:12.45 | XenoX101 | ah right |
| 12:12.45 | Agouti | not 100% on how it works |
| 12:12.48 | Agouti | but I BELIEVE |
| 12:13.07 | Agouti | changes to the original will propogate to the child unit |
| 12:13.18 | Agouti | as long as you haven't set them on the child |
| 12:13.29 | XenoX101 | ah yeah |
| 12:13.35 | Agouti | like the way they do from like the core verison of a mod to the custom |
| 12:13.39 | Agouti | I think |
| 12:13.51 | XenoX101 | ic |
| 12:14.01 | XenoX101 | hey is there an effect for morph |
| 12:14.06 | Agouti | hidden I think just does what it says. I know on buffs if you have Hidden they don't have an icon on the unit |
| 12:14.07 | XenoX101 | I know its an ability but not sure how that would work |
| 12:14.13 | XenoX101 | ah k |
| 12:14.20 | Agouti | it's an animation |
| 12:14.23 | Agouti | set in events |
| 12:14.42 | Agouti | if you don't have one set it will just instantly turn into the other |
| 12:14.49 | Agouti | or rather |
| 12:14.56 | XenoX101 | no I mean |
| 12:15.00 | Agouti | I think you still get the birth animation on the second |
| 12:15.04 | XenoX101 | the actual unit change |
| 12:15.04 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 12:15.08 | XenoX101 | is there an effect that can do that |
| 12:15.15 | XenoX101 | or how can I go about doing that |
| 12:15.17 | Agouti | idly strokes Helral |
| 12:15.23 | Helral|Work | purrrs |
| 12:15.28 | Agouti | ^__^ |
| 12:15.38 | Agouti | it's an ability |
| 12:15.42 | Agouti | I believe |
| 12:15.45 | XenoX101 | it is |
| 12:15.49 | XenoX101 | but that wont work for me |
| 12:15.53 | Agouti | check Viking |
| 12:15.56 | XenoX101 | since I can't link to an ability in an ability |
| 12:16.07 | Agouti | ... ah |
| 12:16.09 | Agouti | let me check |
| 12:16.16 | XenoX101 | or at least not to my knowledge |
| 12:16.28 | Helral|Work | linking an ability to an ability: effect - issue order |
| 12:16.42 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 12:16.49 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 12:16.55 | XenoX101 | would prefer to do it with effects though |
| 12:17.19 | Helral|Work | what you want to do? |
| 12:17.25 | XenoX101 | swap a unit |
| 12:17.28 | XenoX101 | temporarily |
| 12:17.46 | Helral|Work | hmmm well just adjust the actor.events to swap out. |
| 12:17.56 | Helral|Work | you can prolly do it there. |
| 12:18.06 | XenoX101 | I need to do it for the mover |
| 12:18.11 | XenoX101 | so it has to be a physical swap |
| 12:18.13 | Helral|Work | ow. |
| 12:18.13 | XenoX101 | of the unit |
| 12:18.14 | Helral|Work | :( |
| 12:18.22 | XenoX101 | and it has to be during this ability |
| 12:18.38 | Helral|Work | I don't know how to do that except for ability-morph. and then a buff that at the buff ends issues the morph back. |
| 12:18.46 | XenoX101 | geez I' |
| 12:18.51 | XenoX101 | I've already used 13 effects on this damn thing |
| 12:19.19 | XenoX101 | and 3 behaviours and 8 actors |
| 12:19.21 | Agouti | it's a morph sille Xenox |
| 12:19.27 | XenoX101 | I know it is |
| 12:19.31 | Agouti | Xen: have a look at other morphs |
| 12:19.32 | XenoX101 | but thats not an effect |
| 12:19.32 | Agouti | like |
| 12:19.33 | Agouti | larve |
| 12:19.35 | XenoX101 | do I have to create another ability |
| 12:19.36 | Agouti | or eggs |
| 12:19.43 | Helral|Work | well then you'll have 2 additional effects now and 2 abilities and 1 behavior |
| 12:19.44 | Agouti | there are tons of timed life morphs around |
| 12:19.48 | Agouti | Archon is another |
| 12:20.13 | Agouti | I have spent the last god |
| 12:20.15 | Agouti | 6 hours |
| 12:20.17 | Agouti | or something |
| 12:20.20 | Agouti | helping other people though |
| 12:20.24 | Agouti | I want to work on mine |
| 12:20.24 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 12:20.26 | Agouti | sorry... |
| 12:20.40 | Helral|Work | Agouti: I've spend the last days when I had time to work on my map helping toher people. |
| 12:20.41 | XenoX101 | its cool |
| 12:20.54 | Agouti | lol |
| 12:21.10 | Helral|Work | Agouti: progress on my map this month: 2 records, 1 variable, 1 actiondef that isn't done yet. |
| 12:21.29 | Agouti | Xen: remember when I mentioned aages ago about having the search find a unique unit for a teleport? |
| 12:21.40 | Agouti | yeah, haven't gotten any further. |
| 12:21.50 | Agouti | also, lol helral, comon thats nearly done |
| 12:22.00 | Agouti | few doodads here and there and fit to publish |
| 12:22.09 | Helral|Work | Agouti: I still need to add 5 triggers for that bit. at least. |
| 12:22.15 | Helral|Work | maybe several action defs as well. |
| 12:22.18 | Agouti | lol |
| 12:22.27 | Agouti | let me see what I'm sitting at |
| 12:22.29 | Helral|Work | it's a quest gen bit. |
| 12:22.33 | Agouti | with my allergy to triggers |
| 12:23.10 | Agouti | 1.65mb game data |
| 12:23.16 | Agouti | 800k placed objects |
| 12:23.18 | XenoX101 | I see |
| 12:23.20 | Agouti | 20mb terrain |
| 12:23.23 | Helral|Work | I've got the quest record and the quest gen record defined. I've got a quest gen store variable (array of quest gen records) and working on the create quest gen action def. |
| 12:23.26 | Agouti | 1mb triggers |
| 12:23.31 | Agouti | uncompressed that is |
| 12:23.47 | Helral|Work | think I'm at 8mb triggers uncompressed orso |
| 12:23.47 | Agouti | fair enough |
| 12:24.10 | Agouti | lol |
| 12:24.16 | Agouti | I don't like triggers :< |
| 12:24.26 | Agouti | I always feel dirty resorting to them for abilities |
| 12:24.40 | Agouti | but there is a lot of stuff that obviously can't be done in data |
| 12:24.45 | Agouti | interfaces, for example |
| 12:24.52 | Helral|Work | I've got 0 abilities done. |
| 12:24.57 | Agouti | o noes |
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| 12:25.17 | Helral|Work | I've got 2 units done. (Zealot Hero, zergling mob) |
| 12:25.26 | Helral|Work | well they've gotten work on them. |
| 12:25.30 | Agouti | :O nobody has posted a bug today |
| 12:25.32 | Agouti | wait |
| 12:25.35 | Agouti | does that mean |
| 12:25.40 | Agouti | it's not a shitty beta map any more? |
| 12:25.45 | Agouti | \o/ |
| 12:25.47 | Helral|Work | or nobody plays it ;p |
| 12:25.50 | Agouti | haha |
| 12:25.53 | Agouti | or that :< |
| 12:25.59 | Agouti | stupid popularity reset |
| 12:26.01 | Helral|Work | or the bugs already were listed. |
| 12:26.07 | Agouti | fixed all them |
| 12:26.09 | Helral|Work | so no new bugs. |
| 12:26.17 | XenoX101 | there's something I am very worried about here though |
| 12:26.21 | Helral|Work | aha maybe they didn't feel like reporting them then. |
| 12:26.27 | Helral|Work | what? |
| 12:26.38 | XenoX101 | if I morph this unit, the new unit may not gain the targets of the old one |
| 12:26.48 | Helral|Work | targets? |
| 12:26.49 | XenoX101 | or the effects might not apply to it |
| 12:27.05 | XenoX101 | as in, it won't cast the spell |
| 12:27.08 | XenoX101 | or won't move |
| 12:27.15 | XenoX101 | or something |
| 12:27.25 | XenoX101 | and when I revert it back |
| 12:27.36 | XenoX101 | rrr |
| 12:27.44 | XenoX101 | I'll see |
| 12:27.56 | Agouti | you might also run into the morph bug |
| 12:27.58 | Helral|Work | btw Agouti: did you see my inv system? |
| 12:28.04 | XenoX101 | oh, lovely |
| 12:28.09 | Agouti | where your hp and energy get set to full and - respectivly |
| 12:28.10 | Agouti | and no |
| 12:28.12 | Shawn|Rawr | It's lovely |
| 12:28.14 | Agouti | but i really want one |
| 12:28.16 | Agouti | :o |
| 12:28.18 | Agouti | luuurvly? |
| 12:28.20 | Agouti | like |
| 12:28.21 | Agouti | pretty |
| 12:28.23 | Agouti | and shiny |
| 12:28.40 | Shawn|Rawr | Hel, I may actually implement it into a game now that i understand the whole inventory thing better |
| 12:28.55 | Shawn|Rawr | When you first showed it to me, i didnt have a clue |
| 12:29.07 | Agouti | I just want a dota style inventory though, really |
| 12:29.35 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 12:29.46 | Helral|Work | well my inv is out there as an asset :) |
| 12:30.09 | Helral|Work | I might still need to do some work on it, if you run into any problems with it let me know. |
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| 12:30.28 | Helral|Work | well I know I'll need to do some work on it. |
| 12:30.36 | Helral|Work | currently it doesn't support items with charges. |
| 12:32.47 | XenoX101 | this has to be the most complicated spell I'll ever make |
| 12:32.49 | XenoX101 | god damn |
| 12:33.11 | Agouti | Helral: did I tell you about my 2 high cliff |
| 12:33.19 | Agouti | that despite being all painted with No Pathing paint |
| 12:33.23 | Agouti | units could just walk up it? |
| 12:33.35 | Agouti | like, any unit |
| 12:33.52 | Agouti | just 1 spot, but it was so stupid |
| 12:33.57 | Agouti | :< |
| 12:37.11 | XenoX101 | Hm, you can stop a zergling from burrowing but you can't stop it from unburrowing |
| 12:38.18 | Agouti | ... hmm |
| 12:38.22 | Agouti | NO |
| 12:38.27 | Agouti | I am working on mine |
| 12:38.27 | Agouti | shh |
| 12:38.30 | XenoX101 | lol |
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| 12:45.28 | XenoX101 | btw you guys seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o |
| 12:45.33 | XenoX101 | released 2 days ago |
| 12:46.27 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.39 | doite | will that disable so tanks wont turn their damn turret? |
| 12:46.54 | doite | when idle that is |
| 12:47.06 | Agouti | doite: easier to do in data |
| 12:47.14 | Agouti | with the Fidget array |
| 12:47.18 | doite | well i did that |
| 12:47.18 | Agouti | just set everything to 0 |
| 12:47.21 | doite | and i set it to 0 |
| 12:47.26 | doite | but next time i try its on again |
| 12:47.31 | Agouti | I think |
| 12:47.32 | doite | seems for me it has to be 100 |
| 12:47.35 | Agouti | you need to do it on the turret |
| 12:47.38 | Agouti | or |
| 12:47.40 | Agouti | the other way |
| 12:47.40 | doite | i did on both |
| 12:47.45 | Agouti | is do it in the events |
| 12:47.49 | Agouti | for the actor |
| 12:47.56 | Agouti | just delete all the fidget events |
| 12:47.59 | Agouti | I think |
| 12:48.06 | Agouti | but that trigger should work |
| 12:48.12 | doite | turn (chance 0), move (chance 0) and animation (chance 0) |
| 12:48.17 | Agouti | :< |
| 12:48.22 | Agouti | let me have a look |
| 12:48.42 | doite | then if i try once it works, but suddently it just pops up again and starts turning |
| 12:48.55 | doite | then when i check its all 33% 33% 33% ish again |
| 12:49.03 | Agouti | hmph |
| 12:49.10 | Agouti | maybe just do it with the trigger then |
| 12:49.22 | doite | but if i set something to 100% (say... turn) the others remain 0 % forever |
| 12:49.31 | Agouti | hmmm |
| 12:49.38 | Agouti | maybe they have to add up to 100 |
| 12:49.41 | Agouti | for some reason |
| 12:49.48 | doite | seems that way |
| 12:49.57 | doite | So ill jsut turn it off by this trigger |
| 12:49.59 | doite | Should work |
| 12:50.29 | Agouti | if it works then it works |
| 12:50.32 | Agouti | sounds easy |
| 12:54.20 | Shawn|Rawr | Easy doesn't play well with sc2 editor |
| 12:54.59 | Agouti | aint that the truth |
| 12:55.23 | Agouti | but, likewise, you rarely say "I want to do this" and the answer is "it cannot be done" |
| 12:56.08 | doite | =) |
| 12:56.31 | doite | Hmm.. trying to modify the unit when selected as hero (from a normal unit) was harder then i thought |
| 12:56.45 | doite | I have set units maximum life to 100 |
| 12:57.11 | doite | Then i want the CURRENT life (%) of maximum hp to be reflected in the new maximum hp |
| 12:57.12 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.17 | doite | Thats not correct is it? |
| 12:57.41 | doite | so if its a marine |
| 12:57.48 | doite | the maximum hp is 45 of a marine |
| 12:57.59 | doite | say he is damaged 50% (22.5 hp left) |
| 12:58.07 | doite | Then i make maximum hp 100 |
| 12:58.14 | doite | I then want the life to be 50/100 |
| 13:00.54 | doite | is there a easy way? |
| 13:01.01 | doite | or must i do a math for it? |
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| 13:08.00 | Agouti | pokes onetwo |
| 13:08.15 | Agouti | doite: |
| 13:08.19 | Agouti | yes, easily |
| 13:08.26 | Agouti | just use health (fraction) |
| 13:08.49 | Agouti | variable = get unit property - health (fraction) |
| 13:08.51 | Agouti | set max hp |
| 13:08.58 | Agouti | set unit property etc |
| 13:09.05 | Agouti | and the variable should be a Real |
| 13:09.33 | Agouti | btw doite best to use someones name when you have a question for them |
| 13:09.41 | Agouti | we get a little beeeep |
| 13:09.51 | Agouti | ~seen onetwo |
| 13:09.57 | purl | onetwo <ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3h 33m 43s ago, saying: ':D'. |
| 13:09.57 | doite | Indeed |
| 13:09.57 | doite | =) |
| 13:09.57 | XenoX101 | how do you get back SC2 editor |
| 13:09.57 | XenoX101 | if you only have few windows |
| 13:09.57 | doite | thanks |
| 13:10.05 | Agouti | dangit |
| 13:10.16 | Agouti | I don't understand Xen |
| 13:10.21 | XenoX101 | like |
| 13:10.24 | XenoX101 | only lighting and trigger window are open |
| 13:10.40 | XenoX101 | I end up just closing the damn thing |
| 13:10.41 | XenoX101 | and reopening |
| 13:10.45 | Agouti | file |
| 13:10.47 | Agouti | preferences |
| 13:10.50 | Agouti | then in there somewhere |
| 13:10.52 | Agouti | I can't remember |
| 13:11.01 | Agouti | you can set it to reopen last open document as well |
| 13:11.10 | XenoX101 | yeah I know |
| 13:11.22 | Agouti | wait |
| 13:11.32 | Agouti | you mean |
| 13:11.42 | Agouti | you don't have, say, data window open |
| 13:11.45 | Agouti | and you want it open? |
| 13:11.55 | doite | agouti |
| 13:12.01 | Agouti | yup? |
| 13:12.10 | doite | what do u mean with "varaible get unit property health fraction |
| 13:12.14 | doite | what varaible would taht be |
| 13:12.23 | Agouti | Real |
| 13:12.23 | doite | a local that checks the % health? |
| 13:12.26 | doite | k |
| 13:12.29 | Agouti | just a local |
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| 13:12.42 | doite | no array right? |
| 13:12.47 | Agouti | no, not an array |
| 13:12.50 | doite | since the players wont do it at same time |
| 13:12.51 | doite | k |
| 13:12.52 | doite | thx |
| 13:13.08 | Agouti | besides the event you are doing it in is specific to one unit |
| 13:13.22 | Agouti | but always best to use locals |
| 13:13.25 | Agouti | for that reason |
| 13:14.37 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.45 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.52 | doite | Correct agouti? |
| 13:14.56 | Agouti | no quite |
| 13:15.00 | doite | =/ |
| 13:15.06 | Agouti | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:15.12 | doite | ooh |
| 13:15.15 | doite | i se |
| 13:15.17 | Agouti | :) |
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| 13:16.45 | Stewox | anyone here ? |
| 13:16.50 | Stewox | hi |
| 13:17.34 | Agouti | hi |
| 13:18.19 | Stewox | pretty muhc everyone asleep hm |
| 13:18.28 | Agouti | or working on map |
| 13:18.47 | Stewox | ah in europe it's work time still |
| 13:18.58 | Stewox | or school time :p |
| 13:19.17 | Agouti | depending on where in europe :P |
| 13:19.27 | Agouti | london vs say moscow :p |
| 13:19.36 | Stewox | well it's mere 3 hours |
| 13:19.46 | Agouti | I thought it was longer than that? |
| 13:19.48 | Agouti | my bad |
| 13:20.15 | Shawn|Rawr | You are bad |
| 13:20.24 | Agouti | shh you |
| 13:20.29 | Shawn|Rawr | Make em |
| 13:20.32 | Shawn|Rawr | me* |
| 13:20.38 | Stewox | most of it it's GMT 0 . 1 and 2 .... 3 hrs diff for whole eu |
| 13:20.54 | Agouti | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.57 | Stewox | while the 3 is not the place where gamers are :) |
| 13:21.00 | Agouti | or whatever it is |
| 13:21.05 | doite | worked flawlessly agouti |
| 13:21.09 | doite | thanks |
| 13:21.11 | Agouti | goodo |
| 13:21.23 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 13:21.40 | Agouti | o hi there kitty |
| 13:21.49 | Agouti | pets Helral |
| 13:21.53 | Helral|Work | purrrs |
| 13:22.05 | Agouti | :3 |
| 13:23.54 | Agouti | I can't help but feel I'm missing something stupid here |
| 13:24.02 | Agouti | I'm trying to get an instant effect |
| 13:24.05 | Agouti | sorry |
| 13:24.09 | Agouti | ability - instant effect |
| 13:24.16 | Agouti | which searches ... ah |
| 13:24.31 | Helral|Work | hmmm? |
| 13:24.33 | Agouti | it should be ability - targeted but set to target - caster |
| 13:24.41 | Agouti | I think? |
| 13:24.43 | Helral|Work | neh |
| 13:24.56 | Helral|Work | you can use ability instant, and then just at the effect on it use target - caster. |
| 13:25.12 | Agouti | the effect is a search, though |
| 13:25.22 | Agouti | but the ability keeps throwing the error |
| 13:25.28 | Helral|Work | hmmm? |
| 13:25.39 | Helral|Work | search effect shouldn't be a problem on an instant. |
| 13:25.51 | Agouti | thats what I thought |
| 13:25.57 | Agouti | but I set the FieldItem - Teleportation Crystal |
| 13:25.57 | Agouti | UI - Default ErrorCantWarpInUnitsThere |
| 13:26.01 | Agouti | and thats the error I get |
| 13:26.07 | Helral|Work | ahhhh |
| 13:26.18 | Helral|Work | there is a requirement orso that you do not match. |
| 13:26.36 | Agouti | mmm, thought that as well |
| 13:26.36 | Helral|Work | check the default thingy your using if it has a validator orso set. |
| 13:26.46 | Agouti | no validator on the ability |
| 13:26.49 | Agouti | there is on the search |
| 13:26.51 | Helral|Work | on the effects |
| 13:27.10 | Agouti | the ability is meant to search, find a unit, then do stuff to it |
| 13:27.10 | Helral|Work | like the effect you use to warp something. |
| 13:27.33 | Helral|Work | the search works, but the effect that goes off after the search doesn't. |
| 13:27.39 | Agouti | I have validators on the Seach effect, but they control what it finds? |
| 13:27.54 | Agouti | I'm turning a targeted ability into a instant cast |
| 13:28.03 | Agouti | the ability worked fine when it was targeted |
| 13:28.12 | Agouti | then I replaced a targeted with the search |
| 13:28.21 | Helral|Work | what did it target? |
| 13:28.25 | Agouti | a unit |
| 13:28.47 | Agouti | but the unit that you had to click was unique |
| 13:28.59 | Agouti | so no reason to not just make it a instant cast and have the ability find the unit |
| 13:29.21 | Helral|Work | hmmm ok so basicly you now have: instant ability - New Search Effect between the original effect and the unit. |
| 13:29.33 | Agouti | yes |
| 13:29.46 | Agouti | precisely |
| 13:29.49 | Helral|Work | then at the original effect the source unit is set to caster instead of source? |
| 13:30.02 | Agouti | hmm |
| 13:30.06 | Agouti | that could be it |
| 13:30.06 | Helral|Work | and the target is still target? |
| 13:30.18 | Agouti | I don't really understand the difference between Source and Caster |
| 13:30.34 | Helral|Work | source = unit on which it takes place. caster = unit who casted the spell |
| 13:30.46 | Helral|Work | well kinda annoying though |
| 13:30.47 | Agouti | aha |
| 13:30.51 | Helral|Work | most of the time source == caster. |
| 13:30.57 | Agouti | oke doke |
| 13:31.20 | Helral|Work | I stated it simple like that but that isn't all of it. :( |
| 13:31.31 | Agouti | aw :( |
| 13:31.36 | Agouti | so, just to double check |
| 13:31.37 | Helral|Work | but anyway when it doesn't work try the other one :P |
| 13:31.44 | Agouti | validators on search effects |
| 13:31.58 | Agouti | things like Is Unit [x] |
| 13:32.01 | Helral|Work | validators on effects are checked to see if the effect can be activated. |
| 13:32.11 | Agouti | so is it checked against the search target |
| 13:32.14 | Agouti | or the caster |
| 13:32.18 | Helral|Work | so a validator on an effect used by a search effect, limits it against the search target. |
| 13:32.21 | Agouti | which is what it's being cast on, in effect |
| 13:32.28 | Agouti | ah |
| 13:32.30 | Agouti | right |
| 13:32.34 | Agouti | that will be the problem |
| 13:32.55 | Helral|Work | why? |
| 13:33.09 | Agouti | I had the validator for making sure it was the right unit |
| 13:33.12 | Agouti | on the Search |
| 13:33.15 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 13:33.20 | Agouti | rather than the effect the Search applied |
| 13:33.25 | Agouti | I wondered about that |
| 13:33.28 | Helral|Work | try placing it on the effect that the search applies ;p |
| 13:33.31 | Helral|Work | it might fix it. |
| 13:33.47 | Agouti | ugh |
| 13:33.51 | Helral|Work | if you ask me they've implemented it quite confusingly. |
| 13:33.57 | Agouti | ... yes |
| 13:36.20 | Agouti | oh yuck |
| 13:36.25 | Agouti | that isn't going to work |
| 13:36.37 | Agouti | the caster/target links will get all fooked up |
| 13:36.42 | Helral|Work | :( |
| 13:36.43 | Agouti | going to have to rebuild |
| 13:36.45 | Agouti | I think |
| 13:36.46 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 13:37.12 | Helral|Work | what should the spell effect be? |
| 13:37.25 | Agouti | it's a teleport |
| 13:37.38 | Agouti | but the actual teleport is done by a behaviour expiration |
| 13:37.54 | Helral|Work | so you want to apply a behavior on the target found by the search? |
| 13:38.07 | Agouti | no, the behaviour is put on the caster |
| 13:38.22 | Agouti | so if I remember correctly, the behaviour is linked as cast by the target |
| 13:38.26 | Helral|Work | ow the caster is teleported to the unique unit? |
| 13:38.35 | Agouti | yes |
| 13:38.41 | Agouti | I think I can do it |
| 13:38.50 | Agouti | just put the search in the behaviour expire |
| 13:39.07 | Agouti | ugh, that won't work though, it needs to apply an effect on the target unit as well |
| 13:39.51 | Helral|Work | why not simply use a delay? |
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| 13:40.05 | Creation | hey guys |
| 13:40.21 | Agouti | the behaviour isn't a dummy, it does a visual effect |
| 13:40.27 | Agouti | hi Cre |
| 13:40.43 | Agouti | so the basic process is |
| 13:40.53 | Agouti | it applies a behaviour to both the caster and the target |
| 13:40.59 | Agouti | which do a visual effect |
| 13:41.09 | Agouti | then when the behaviour expires it teleports |
| 13:41.16 | Agouti | and applies another behaviour |
| 13:41.38 | Helral|Work | Agouti: ok so you have this sequense then: 1. ability used, 2. behavior applied, 3. search effect when behavior expires, 4. teleport source to unit found in search. |
| 13:41.52 | Helral|Work | or? |
| 13:42.00 | Agouti | the problem is though the behaviour on the caster and source play concurrently |
| 13:42.06 | Agouti | so it needs to search at the start |
| 13:42.09 | Helral|Work | ah |
| 13:42.10 | Agouti | but keep the target link |
| 13:42.38 | Agouti | which it does currently by I'm not sure, but I think the behaviour on the casting unit is set as cast by the target |
| 13:42.51 | Agouti | or something |
| 13:42.53 | Helral|Work | Agouti: ok so you have this sequense then: 1. ability used, 2. a. behavior applied, b. search effect when behavior applied, 4. apply behavior on target 5. teleport source to unit found in search. |
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| 13:43.06 | Agouti | yeah, it will need 2 searches |
| 13:43.19 | Helral|Work | you only need 1 actually. |
| 13:43.20 | Agouti | because the actual ability target will not be valid |
| 13:43.26 | Agouti | oh? |
| 13:43.38 | Helral|Work | just have the teleport trigger of the behavior expire on the target. |
| 13:43.52 | Agouti | oh, of course |
| 13:44.00 | Agouti | it will have the Caster link then |
| 13:44.05 | Helral|Work | yup :) |
| 13:44.14 | Agouti | pets Helral |
| 13:44.20 | Helral|Work | purrrs |
| 13:44.24 | Agouti | <3 |
| 13:44.29 | Helral|Work | meows |
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| 13:44.37 | Agouti | what is it you do anyway |
| 13:44.38 | Agouti | for work |
| 13:44.49 | Agouti | that lets you IRC so much |
| 13:44.57 | Helral|Work | I'm a programmer ;p |
| 13:45.02 | Agouti | I'm sure you WPM can't be that high, what with the paws and all |
| 13:45.07 | Agouti | oh? what in? |
| 13:45.20 | Helral|Work | perl atm. |
| 13:45.24 | Helral|Work | webbased system |
| 13:45.25 | Agouti | eww perl |
| 13:45.33 | Agouti | hates perl based websites |
| 13:45.36 | Agouti | :( |
| 13:45.43 | Creation | Anyone interested in taking a tour of a functional battlecruiser I built from the inside out? could use a quick critique |
| 13:45.44 | Agouti | damn cgi stuff |
| 13:45.54 | Helral|Work | why do you hate it Agouti? |
| 13:46.06 | Agouti | ok, actually, I'll be more specific |
| 13:46.15 | Agouti | mainly because the only times I have to deal with it |
| 13:46.21 | Agouti | are patching old, outdated system |
| 13:46.22 | Agouti | s |
| 13:46.27 | Helral|Work | ahhh |
| 13:46.28 | Helral|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:46.33 | Agouti | and it gives no useful info on errors :( |
| 13:46.45 | Helral|Work | neh our system isn't old and outdated and does give useful info on errors. |
| 13:46.46 | Agouti | though it's probably half because the original writers were stupid |
| 13:46.57 | Jygga | Creation yay! |
| 13:47.01 | Agouti | oh well thats something at least |
| 13:47.01 | Helral|Work | since I catch most default errors and convert them to useful ones. |
| 13:47.07 | Agouti | nice :) |
| 13:47.15 | Creation | hi lol |
| 13:47.23 | Agouti | so is perl noticeably faster than say, APX? |
| 13:47.28 | Helral|Work | dunno. |
| 13:47.32 | Helral|Work | never really tested. |
| 13:47.36 | Agouti | I like PHP myself |
| 13:47.40 | Agouti | but it is a tad slow |
| 13:47.43 | Jygga | and Agouti is out |
| 13:47.47 | Jygga | ^^ |
| 13:47.51 | Agouti | psh |
| 13:47.54 | Agouti | I never wanted to be in |
| 13:47.56 | Agouti | :P |
| 13:47.57 | Helral|Work | perl generated a webpage in 0.0x seconds for me. |
| 13:48.24 | Agouti | html generated a page in 0.0000x seconds for me :p |
| 13:48.30 | Agouti | doesn't mean much ;) |
| 13:48.55 | Agouti | I do have issues with PHP on big data driven stuff though |
| 13:49.00 | Agouti | o well |
| 13:49.04 | Agouti | YOU! WORK! |
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| 13:49.13 | Agouti | tyvm though, as long as it works |
| 13:49.38 | Jygga | wow thats some really tough sarcasm there Agouti ^^ |
| 13:49.48 | Agouti | lol |
| 13:50.06 | Agouti | no sarcasm :o |
| 13:50.17 | Agouti | helral probably fixed my data problem |
| 13:50.25 | Agouti | way up there ^^^^^ |
| 13:52.01 | Jygga | oh stop the php bashing please, its not the developers fault the language design is so fucked up its barely useable in a production environment ;) |
| 13:52.28 | Agouti | haha |
| 13:52.32 | Agouti | I like php :< |
| 13:52.44 | Agouti | just compiled > interpreted :( |
| 13:52.51 | Agouti | aspx is horrid though |
| 13:52.53 | Agouti | hate it |
| 13:52.55 | Agouti | so much |
| 13:53.34 | Creation | Anyone interested in taking a tour of a functional battlecruiser I built from the inside out? could use a quick critique |
| 13:53.46 | Jygga | Creation yes please ? |
| 13:54.02 | Creation | cool, are you on US? |
| 13:54.05 | Jygga | nope |
| 13:54.08 | Creation | :/ |
| 13:54.10 | Jygga | :) |
| 13:55.05 | Jygga | did you use the doodads from the cutscenes all over the place? |
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| 13:56.08 | Agouti | Cre: I'll be happy to have a look, I just really want to fix this |
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| 14:02.40 | Agouti | o jeese, the behaviour to the target was applied by an event |
| 14:02.45 | Agouti | thats why it was so weird |
| 14:02.47 | Agouti | stupid actors |
| 14:03.25 | XenoX101 | well this is interesting, apparently the "Based on" command does more than meets the eye |
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| 14:03.36 | XenoX101 | it stopped my morph ability from working |
| 14:03.55 | Agouti | aw :( |
| 14:04.06 | XenoX101 | and exactly how is a complete mystery to me |
| 14:04.15 | XenoX101 | since my first experiment was to duplicate all the values from the first to the second unit |
| 14:04.18 | XenoX101 | without using "based on" |
| 14:04.32 | Agouti | dunno |
| 14:04.35 | XenoX101 | and it worked with no issues, so there must be something -else- that the "based on" thing does |
| 14:04.39 | Agouti | lots of things remain a mystery |
| 14:05.03 | XenoX101 | moral of the story: don't use "based on" since it changes something invisible |
| 14:05.13 | XenoX101 | unless its a based on default |
| 14:05.54 | XenoX101 | you can do "copy from" though |
| 14:05.56 | XenoX101 | thats no problem |
| 14:06.05 | XenoX101 | thats just a one off copy of values |
| 14:06.16 | XenoX101 | (no linking) |
| 14:06.28 | Agouti | Noted. |
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| 14:07.10 | Agouti | based on is how Zergling/Zergling (Burrowed) work, don't they |
| 14:08.59 | XenoX101 | it doesnt say actually |
| 14:09.14 | XenoX101 | you cant double click original units to find out |
| 14:09.33 | Agouti | :( |
| 14:09.33 | Shawn|Rawr | You're an origian; unit |
| 14:09.38 | Shawn|Rawr | original |
| 14:09.44 | XenoX101 | lol go to bed Shawn |
| 14:09.47 | XenoX101 | actually I should too |
| 14:09.49 | Shawn|Rawr | MAKE ME |
| 14:10.06 | Shawn|Rawr | I have a girlfriend to entertain in a few hours |
| 14:10.10 | Agouti | I'm Copy From "(Mother|Father)" |
| 14:10.16 | XenoX101 | ;p |
| 14:10.22 | Agouti | in a few hours for a few min |
| 14:10.28 | Agouti | from what she said |
| 14:10.50 | Shawn|Rawr | I doubt that. She'll want to do something stupid and I'll fall asleep |
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| 14:10.57 | Shawn|Rawr | It's a process |
| 14:10.59 | Agouti | lol |
| 14:11.11 | Agouti | tell her to get busy or gtfo |
| 14:11.11 | ALF__ | ah shaukel |
| 14:11.14 | Agouti | it's map making time |
| 14:11.47 | Shawn|Rawr | I was having a code error earlier so I copied my triggers over to a different map |
| 14:11.51 | Shawn|Rawr | and then that didnt work |
| 14:12.01 | Shawn|Rawr | so i figured out it was a small array i made |
| 14:12.23 | XenoX101 | goodie, I just fixed one problem and now I'm onto another |
| 14:12.24 | Shawn|Rawr | copied all my triggers back over and now i have to redo all the points in the triggers |
| 14:13.03 | XenoX101 | damn you serious? |
| 14:13.08 | XenoX101 | all 400 odd? |
| 14:13.16 | Shawn|Rawr | 395 i think... |
| 14:13.20 | Shawn|Rawr | But it wont be that bad |
| 14:14.03 | XenoX101 | :O |
| 14:14.13 | Shawn|Rawr | I will have a plan before I place the buildings.. at least only the points got unlinked and not everything |
| 14:14.20 | Shawn|Rawr | and thank god the code error was fixable |
| 14:14.35 | Shawn|Rawr | 10 waves of enemy bases |
| 14:14.39 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 14:16.07 | XenoX101 | nice |
| 14:16.17 | XenoX101 | how long did that take |
| 14:17.34 | Shawn|Rawr | The templates, using every point, took hours |
| 14:17.53 | Shawn|Rawr | The waves won't be so bad since most of the work is already done int he templates |
| 14:17.58 | Shawn|Rawr | I just have to modify for each wave |
| 14:18.05 | Xaragoth | slaps Creation around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:18.06 | Shawn|Rawr | and replace the points that were unlinkes |
| 14:18.07 | Xaragoth | see query |
| 14:23.28 | XenoX101 | why is it that as soon as I add an effect alongside this morph in the set the morph crumples |
| 14:23.35 | XenoX101 | the morph is the first effect in the set >< |
| 14:24.13 | Shawn|Rawr | It wants you to link 10 sets together |
| 14:24.23 | XenoX101 | ;p; |
| 14:24.25 | XenoX101 | lol* |
| 14:25.02 | Creation | Xaragoth! :p |
| 14:27.31 | Creation | anyone from US server want to check out this battlecruiser i made from the inside out and give me a critique? |
| 14:27.35 | Creation | :D |
| 14:32.46 | Agouti | ah fuck it I give up :( |
| 14:32.53 | Agouti | stupid conoluted crap |
| 14:32.58 | Agouti | *convoluted |
| 14:33.12 | Agouti | trying to pull apart Mass Recall is a nightmare |
| 14:35.54 | Agouti | can't figure out where the link is between an actor and a behaviour |
| 14:36.01 | Agouti | behaviours don't have Events ffs |
| 14:36.48 | Shawn|Rawr | Explain link? |
| 14:37.13 | Agouti | the link is counter inuitive |
| 14:37.21 | Agouti | backwards referencing from the actors |
| 14:37.34 | Agouti | the actors have events (behaviour.on) |
| 14:37.40 | Shawn|Rawr | opens a map |
| 14:37.50 | Agouti | and so it listed the behaviour being the parent |
| 14:38.54 | Agouti | so I pulled apart my working ability to try and do it a better way |
| 14:39.03 | Agouti | and the data editor isn't letting me undo |
| 14:39.08 | Agouti | so I can't publish tonight |
| 14:39.09 | Agouti | sigh |
| 14:39.36 | Shawn|Rawr | That sucks. You should look at the battlecruiser though if you have time |
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| 14:44.02 | Agouti | goddamn it |
| 14:44.08 | Agouti | and I had automatic backup on |
| 14:44.20 | Agouti | but it has 1 backup after I changed it |
| 14:44.22 | Agouti | and like |
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| 14:44.23 | Agouti | 9 |
| 14:44.27 | Agouti | from 3 days ago |
| 14:44.34 | Agouti | what a piece of crap |
| 14:44.38 | XenoX101 | Agouti, morph doesnt work :( |
| 14:44.48 | XenoX101 | it refuses to take on board added effects |
| 14:44.48 | Agouti | don't want to know xen |
| 14:44.51 | Agouti | my shit isn't either |
| 14:45.07 | Agouti | stupid retarded stupidness |
| 14:45.09 | Agouti | RAWR |
| 14:45.11 | XenoX101 | mm |
| 14:45.31 | Agouti | well, ok |
| 14:45.38 | Agouti | it's not that it isn't working |
| 14:45.48 | Agouti | its that I don't understand how it should be |
| 14:46.01 | Agouti | but it's like having a word on the tip of your tounge |
| 14:46.16 | Agouti | Creator: where do I go to see this BC? |
| 14:46.35 | Agouti | *Creation |
| 14:47.05 | Helral|Work | XenoX101: did you check the flags for the morph? |
| 14:47.14 | Agouti | night all |
| 14:47.24 | Agouti | haven't been defeated on something before bed before |
| 14:47.28 | Agouti | first for everything though |
| 14:47.29 | Agouti | :( |
| 14:47.35 | Helral|Work | hmmm? what defeated you? |
| 14:47.47 | Agouti | the teleport |
| 14:47.51 | Agouti | couldn't get it to work |
| 14:48.05 | XenoX101 | Helral, yes |
| 14:48.14 | Agouti | the actors weren't be applied properly |
| 14:48.18 | Agouti | and other stupidness |
| 14:48.21 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 14:48.31 | Agouti | but I'm sure it'll be clearer in the morning |
| 14:48.35 | Agouti | I can nearly understand it |
| 14:48.36 | Helral|Work | hehehe :) |
| 14:48.43 | Agouti | which usually means I need to sleep on it |
| 14:48.46 | XenoX101 | the new unit loses that target operatives of the old one |
| 14:48.49 | XenoX101 | the* |
| 14:48.54 | XenoX101 | so it just shits itself |
| 14:48.55 | Agouti | gl with yours Xen |
| 14:49.00 | XenoX101 | thanks |
| 14:49.05 | Helral|Work | target operatives? |
| 14:49.15 | XenoX101 | the target and caster |
| 14:49.24 | XenoX101 | dont work on any new effects |
| 14:49.35 | Helral|Work | :( |
| 14:49.46 | XenoX101 | and worse still the unit won't even morph |
| 14:49.48 | XenoX101 | if it knows this |
| 14:49.52 | XenoX101 | its like its psychic |
| 14:50.01 | XenoX101 | stupid thing |
| 14:50.13 | Helral|Work | hmmm I'll try to take a look when I'm home. |
| 14:50.25 | XenoX101 | all I need is a way to get this dash attack to ignore collision |
| 14:50.38 | JManV_ | is there a way to make it so you can walk one way across an object, but not another? |
| 14:50.41 | XenoX101 | and nothing seems to be capable of doing it data wise |
| 14:50.49 | XenoX101 | within an ability |
| 14:51.52 | XenoX101 | I'm thinking I'll have to use trig to modify the unit |
| 14:51.59 | XenoX101 | and cast the ability |
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| 14:53.39 | Obatztrara | sup |
| 14:53.53 | XenoX101 | crying |
| 14:53.54 | JManV_ | yo |
| 14:54.07 | Obatztrara | whats wrong? ^^ |
| 14:54.17 | XenoX101 | everything ;p |
| 14:54.21 | XenoX101 | my ability |
| 14:54.41 | Obatztrara | what kind of ability? |
| 14:54.51 | XenoX101 | the kind that makes you cry ;p |
| 14:54.56 | XenoX101 | a dash attack t hing |
| 14:54.57 | XenoX101 | thing |
| 14:55.03 | XenoX101 | cant find a way to make it ignore collisions |
| 14:55.10 | XenoX101 | in data |
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| 14:57.50 | Obatztrara | are you using any kind of missile unit? |
| 14:58.01 | XenoX101 | nope |
| 14:58.54 | Obatztrara | shit >_> |
| 14:58.55 | Obatztrara | k |
| 14:59.03 | XenoX101 | actually I was thinking about that, but I wasn't sure I could make a missile look like a unit |
| 14:59.10 | Obatztrara | you can |
| 14:59.20 | Obatztrara | you can set a missilies actor model to whatever unit you want |
| 14:59.27 | Obatztrara | missiles* |
| 14:59.29 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 14:59.34 | XenoX101 | I might try that tomorrow |
| 14:59.48 | XenoX101 | could just teleport the guy to the end after the missile goes through |
| 15:00.18 | Obatztrara | theres actually a tutorial on how to make a unit leap forward using missiles..might be helpful |
| 15:00.40 | doite | Hey obadaba |
| 15:00.54 | doite | Guys, is there anyway to check the behaviours, how they look |
| 15:00.58 | Obatztrara | hey man |
| 15:01.21 | Obatztrara | you mean the icon? |
| 15:01.26 | doite | nah |
| 15:01.28 | doite | as in: |
| 15:01.42 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:01.49 | doite | To check how that looks |
| 15:01.58 | doite | I cant just use them all and run the game to check |
| 15:02.22 | doite | Guardian shield was just some lame circle around waist |
| 15:02.30 | Obatztrara | afaik there is no way |
| 15:02.53 | Obatztrara | you would have to look up the model, that can be previewed |
| 15:03.09 | doite | K, would you possible know a one i can use for my ability when a prot zealot gets +25 in shield regeneration for 4 sec |
| 15:03.13 | burne- | btw CHAPTER3 of Goku Firebat is released |
| 15:03.14 | burne- | ! |
| 15:03.19 | burne- | its worth anouncing |
| 15:03.21 | doite | Some sort of shield |
| 15:03.29 | Obatztrara | i know, just one sec |
| 15:03.34 | Obatztrara | i know one* |
| 15:03.39 | doite | cool |
| 15:03.42 | doite | thanks |
| 15:04.39 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 15:04.43 | XenoX101 | but if I use a missile |
| 15:04.52 | XenoX101 | I can't attach to the points of it can I? |
| 15:05.15 | doite | Depend on if you change them |
| 15:05.34 | doite | all units and actors has points |
| 15:05.52 | XenoX101 | mm |
| 15:06.06 | doite | Just figure out the right one and apply the "weapon" or w/e u need to use form it form a point that suits u |
| 15:06.22 | doite | I think its in the previewer |
| 15:06.28 | doite | U can check all units points |
| 15:06.46 | XenoX101 | yeah I know |
| 15:06.53 | doite | U can modify points as u wish also, but not form the previewer |
| 15:06.56 | XenoX101 | I just thought that my attachments mightn't work on a missile actor type |
| 15:06.57 | doite | from* |
| 15:07.03 | Obatztrara | doite |
| 15:07.04 | Obatztrara | FeldMentalDefense ModellAssets\Effects\Protoss\NullField\NullField.m3 |
| 15:07.06 | doite | yo |
| 15:07.14 | doite | metal defence |
| 15:07.15 | Obatztrara | looks pretty cool imo |
| 15:07.22 | Obatztrara | ah theta just my ability name |
| 15:07.22 | doite | ok and thats a effect? |
| 15:07.26 | Obatztrara | thats* |
| 15:07.32 | Obatztrara | no, thats the model |
| 15:07.45 | doite | well i have to trigger it though triggers |
| 15:07.47 | doite | as in Environment - Execute Sentry - Guardian Shield (Apply Behavior) on PlayerUnit[(Triggering player)] from PlayerUnit[(Triggering player)] |
| 15:08.03 | doite | behaviour i guess |
| 15:08.05 | Obatztrara | hmm |
| 15:08.09 | Obatztrara | well |
| 15:08.15 | doite | Ill check it out |
| 15:08.30 | Obatztrara | you would have to make an actor for your behaviour which creates the model at the unit |
| 15:09.05 | doite | would it be a behaviour or a effect? |
| 15:09.45 | Obatztrara | well |
| 15:10.06 | Obatztrara | you said you wanted to trigger via a behaviour |
| 15:10.13 | Obatztrara | in the actor you add the event |
| 15:10.24 | Obatztrara | behaviour "Yourbehaviour" created |
| 15:10.31 | Obatztrara | create Actor at unit |
| 15:10.38 | Obatztrara | and the actor would a be a create model actor |
| 15:12.00 | doite | May i ask what it is |
| 15:12.08 | doite | The feld metal defense modell |
| 15:12.15 | doite | is it found in models in data editor? |
| 15:13.04 | Obatztrara | no :p |
| 15:13.13 | Obatztrara | just search the models for NullField.m3 |
| 15:13.17 | Obatztrara | thats the actual name |
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| 15:16.18 | doite | yes=) but what i ment is where is it used? |
| 15:16.31 | doite | For example which unit triggers it? |
| 15:17.12 | Obatztrara | lte me see |
| 15:17.14 | Obatztrara | let* |
| 15:17.27 | doite | thanks man and sorry for the extra work |
| 15:17.35 | Obatztrara | its ok |
| 15:20.54 | Obatztrara | I cant find any unit that uses this model right now :s |
| 15:20.58 | doite | =) |
| 15:21.08 | doite | Nvm ill do as you said with the unit |
| 15:21.10 | doite | actor |
| 15:21.11 | doite | i mean |
| 15:21.11 | Obatztrara | do you want to see the model? |
| 15:21.16 | doite | ! |
| 15:22.23 | doite | yes |
| 15:22.45 | Obatztrara | ahh apparently the ability that uses this is called the nulifier beam |
| 15:23.05 | Obatztrara | open the model previewer |
| 15:23.28 | Obatztrara | and search for NullField |
| 15:23.41 | doite | K thanks |
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| 15:29.19 | doite | i really dont understand anything about it |
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| 15:29.45 | Skittles | Hello. |
| 15:30.57 | doite | mate there is no nulifier beem ability =/ |
| 15:30.57 | doite | hey |
| 15:31.00 | doite | god i hate data editor |
| 15:31.20 | Ashamed | so i went out saturday night and some hippie chick sang a song to us that she had a dream about |
| 15:31.22 | Ashamed | it was pretty funny |
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| 15:34.53 | Helral|Work | was it about a talking cat? |
| 15:35.09 | Obatztrara | doite just create a new actor, you should have to set two things only |
| 15:35.20 | Obatztrara | well 3 |
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| 15:35.37 | Obatztrara | 1. The actor has to be a create model actor |
| 15:35.47 | Obatztrara | 2. the model has to be set to NullField.m3 |
| 15:36.00 | Obatztrara | 3. Under the events+ add the stuff I described above |
| 15:36.11 | Obatztrara | now |
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| 15:36.25 | Obatztrara | when you add the behaviour to any unit ingame it should create the model |
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| 15:37.29 | Obatztrara | you know what |
| 15:37.37 | Obatztrara | if you want we can do it with the livestream thingie |
| 15:37.41 | Obatztrara | that didnt work too bad last time |
| 15:38.12 | doite | Actually im on laptop in stockholm (not in lund where i have my usuall computer) |
| 15:38.21 | doite | so dont think mac supports that |
| 15:38.38 | doite | But what kind of actor should it be? There is no create modell actor |
| 15:39.02 | JManV_ | anyone know of a way i can make it so you can walk on way across an object, but not another? |
| 15:39.16 | Obatztrara | Model |
| 15:39.20 | Obatztrara | the actor name is just model |
| 15:39.43 | JManV_ | down but not up? |
| 15:41.08 | doite | ART: Modell -> cant be set to nullbeam |
| 15:41.13 | doite | i mean nullfield |
| 15:42.23 | Obatztrara | uhm |
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| 15:42.35 | Obatztrara | ill do it too. just one sec |
| 15:43.21 | Obatztrara | ok, so doubleclick on the model field |
| 15:43.23 | Helral|Work | JManV: unit enters region, apply behavior - periodic force effect that pushes the unit down, unit leaves region: remove behavior? |
| 15:43.44 | Helral|Work | I never worked with force effects though, so no idea how they work ;p |
| 15:44.48 | Obatztrara | wtf....your right doite... |
| 15:45.43 | Obatztrara | ok |
| 15:45.48 | Obatztrara | we need to create the model first |
| 15:45.58 | JManV_ | well, then it won't chose a good path |
| 15:46.15 | JManV_ | he'll try to go across the thing he's not supposed to, and just stop |
| 15:46.52 | Obatztrara | Doite create a new model and just set the Model field to the NullField |
| 15:47.30 | Obatztrara | if you want you could change the volor, size etc here, bit thats for later I guess |
| 15:47.34 | Obatztrara | color* |
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| 15:50.51 | doite | God damn it |
| 15:50.55 | doite | I forgot |
| 15:51.17 | doite | Obatz, i did as u said, thanks, i will test it later! Your the greatest man! But have to run to cut my hair |
| 15:51.20 | doite | C u later |
| 15:51.35 | Obatztrara | see ya |
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| 15:55.12 | Demonette | Uhm hi |
| 15:55.13 | Skittles | WTF |
| 15:55.17 | Skittles | You jsut let him leave? |
| 15:55.23 | Demonette | Who? |
| 15:55.28 | Skittles | "run to cut my hair" |
| 15:55.30 | Skittles | doite |
| 15:55.36 | Skittles | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.45 | Skittles | BUT HES RUNNING WITH SCISSORS! |
| 15:55.48 | Skittles | ahhh |
| 15:55.57 | Skittles | anyway, hi. |
| 15:57.31 | Demonette | =P |
| 15:57.37 | Demonette | sounds great =D hi skittles |
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| 16:06.20 | Creation | hey guys |
| 16:06.38 | Creation | anyone from US want to come check out this battlecruiser I built from the ground up? |
| 16:06.38 | Demonette | Hi thingy! |
| 16:08.29 | Creation | :/ |
| 16:11.09 | Skittles | sure |
| 16:11.18 | Creation | yay |
| 16:11.23 | Creation | name/ID? |
| 16:11.56 | Creation | and are you US? |
| 16:12.03 | JManV_ | how does catalyst come up no matter what i search for? |
| 16:12.46 | Skittles | skittles |
| 16:12.48 | Skittles | yeah i am |
| 16:12.48 | Creation | probably because it has the most replies out of any thread on the forums |
| 16:12.51 | Skittles | .753 i tihnk |
| 16:12.54 | Creation | ok |
| 16:13.14 | Skittles | 751 actually |
| 16:14.10 | Creation | anyone else want to come? |
| 16:16.03 | Creation | ok im in game Skittles |
| 16:16.16 | Skittles | k |
| 16:16.39 | XenoX101 | hey are there any tutorials for missile spells out there? |
| 16:16.47 | XenoX101 | I can't seem to find any |
| 16:17.08 | XenoX101 | data that is |
| 16:17.15 | Creation | http://rileystarcraft.blogspot.com/2010/06/tutorial-create-missile-weapon.html |
| 16:17.21 | Creation | that will get you pretty close |
| 16:17.25 | Creation | pretty much the same thing |
| 16:18.02 | Creation | just instead of making weapon make ability |
| 16:18.16 | Creation | or you could just duplicate pamoto cannon or something |
| 16:18.20 | Creation | yamoto* |
| 16:18.25 | Creation | and then work off that |
| 16:18.45 | XenoX101 | hm, ok thanks |
| 16:18.55 | Skittles | im in game too btw |
| 16:19.07 | Skittles | Skittles.751 |
| 16:19.09 | Skittles | gogogo |
| 16:19.10 | Skittles | =D |
| 16:19.15 | Creation | ok |
| 16:21.03 | Demonette | Tomate canon!! |
| 16:21.11 | Demonette | tomato =( |
| 16:21.16 | Demonette | tomaito... |
| 16:21.17 | Demonette | fu! |
| 16:21.24 | Demonette | I can't -.- i just can't |
| 16:21.36 | XenoX101 | my missile dies instantly |
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| 16:28.47 | XenoX101 | I did everything in that tutorial |
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| 16:30.25 | Demonette | oO |
| 16:31.40 | Demonette | Sounds bad |
| 16:36.24 | JManV_ | hmm... still can't figure out one-way movement |
| 16:36.37 | JManV_ | that works with normal pathing |
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| 16:39.09 | Demonette | Oh noes! |
| 16:39.15 | Demonette | my army is dead! DEAAADDD =( |
| 16:40.15 | JManV_ | say it ain't so! |
| 16:41.18 | JManV_ | in a trigger, can i tell if a unit is standing on a particular type of doodad? |
| 16:45.58 | Skittles | ? |
| 16:46.12 | Skittles | no oyu can't, you would need to make it a unit |
| 16:46.24 | Skittles | or use regions or w/e |
| 16:46.54 | Skittles | jmanv you can make 1 way movement rather easily tho |
| 16:47.43 | Skittles | just get the angle of the unit after he uses the move thingy, then round to the nearest 90 degrees, right? |
| 16:47.55 | Skittles | brb |
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| 16:52.02 | JManV_ | well, i want movement across an object to go in one direction only |
| 16:53.30 | JManV_ | i'm still trying to make the pokemon cliffs |
| 16:58.08 | wOlfLinG | JManV_ I could probably help with that |
| 16:59.11 | JManV_ | yeah? |
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| 17:04.58 | Jiiks | hmmm i have items that add buff, is there an option to disable the buff from showing in the ui |
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| 17:11.13 | JManV_ | wolfling: i'd welcome any suggestions |
| 17:11.46 | wOlfLinG | Only thing i can think of: a) Create regions and stuff, or b) Mess around with movers |
| 17:11.55 | wOlfLinG | Also, please no pings :/ |
| 17:12.02 | wOlfLinG | Hurtz mah earz ;_; |
| 17:13.19 | JManV_ | movers, huh? |
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| 17:15.16 | Skittles | back |
| 17:16.14 | Skittles | Jmanv, you really don't need to copy pokemon 100%, make it your own creation! |
| 17:17.01 | JManV_ | i know |
| 17:17.12 | JManV_ | but those cliffs are omni-present through all pokemon |
| 17:17.22 | Skittles | know anything I can upload like 6 gigs too? Xd |
| 17:17.24 | JManV_ | they're an important aspect for the "feel" of the game |
| 17:17.50 | JManV_ | you should see how it looks tho... it's frickin' awesome |
| 17:17.53 | JManV_ | the model " |
| 17:18.01 | Skittles | not really, I didn't even remember that you could jump down them til you said something. |
| 17:18.01 | JManV_ | "bush" is perfect for tall grass |
| 17:19.56 | JManV_ | well, i'm not quite ready to scrap it just yet |
| 17:20.08 | JManV_ | i still want to do my due diligence and see if i can do something similar |
| 17:21.34 | JManV_ | although i am getting close... |
| 17:21.58 | Skittles | Well I know with movers you can make things go down but not up cliffs |
| 17:22.02 | JManV_ | if i can get it to work, but it doesn't feel the same, then it defeats the purpose |
| 17:22.14 | JManV_ | yeah, but they're not actually cliffs |
| 17:22.23 | JManV_ | cuz those are too dramatic |
| 17:22.28 | JManV_ | and i have limited levels |
| 17:25.03 | Skittles | if u say so |
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| 17:31.10 | JManV_ | well, real cliffs look great, but the limit is really killing it |
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| 17:33.26 | doite | Hey |
| 17:33.38 | doite | Sorry about ealier obadaby |
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| 17:38.27 | Stewox | Jman , did a reboot helped ? |
| 17:38.49 | JManV_ | it was my map |
| 17:39.11 | JManV_ | i had accidently generated dense foliage across most of a 256x256 map |
| 17:39.34 | Stewox | so that was the lag ? |
| 17:39.36 | Obatztrara | yo doite |
| 17:39.42 | doite | Hey |
| 17:39.43 | JManV_ | it was |
| 17:40.35 | Stewox | although that's not the end of it , there's a lot of room to improve still |
| 17:41.43 | Stewox | sc2 is quite an unoptimized game |
| 17:42.02 | Stewox | the funny thing is |
| 17:42.36 | Stewox | they said underground in an RTS engine , it really is , or it's just the screen shifts to the other side of the map ? |
| 17:47.49 | Stewox | any idea what was the tools update ? |
| 17:48.02 | Stewox | editor , patcher , downloader ,exes ? |
| 17:48.46 | Bibendus|AFK | a |
| 17:48.46 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 7 hours 5 minutes 26 seconds |
| 17:48.48 | Bibendus | :O |
| 17:48.49 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp6ZXsmaq-E |
| 17:50.25 | Stewox | onlineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 17:50.58 | Stewox | what with the trends |
| 17:51.10 | Stewox | iCrap is dead i think , now it's online |
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| 17:51.13 | Bibendus | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nc-n15FSzWM/SUVeWiv6wWI/AAAAAAAADZU/WCCXPt3sHtE/s1600-h/Dig-and-fight-screenshot.jpg |
| 17:51.14 | Keo | hey |
| 17:51.58 | Stewox | so that's good game or what |
| 17:52.03 | Stewox | i don't see good responses |
| 17:52.17 | Bibendus | cuz people don't want it as mmo |
| 17:52.21 | Bibendus | i suppose |
| 17:52.29 | Stewox | like most of online gamer , except Quake Live of course |
| 17:52.33 | Bibendus | but the fact of building a dungeon |
| 17:52.34 | Stewox | games* |
| 17:52.35 | doite | anyone knows a effect by trigger (create effect from unit) that would be appropriate for a unit when he gets a significant boost in energy regeneration |
| 17:52.42 | Bibendus | that can be invaded by real player enemies |
| 17:52.46 | Bibendus | is intriguing |
| 17:53.09 | JManV_ | how can i make a mover allow a unit to move down a cliff but not up? |
| 17:53.11 | doite | or maybe a way to preview the effects? |
| 17:53.43 | Stewox | maybe |
| 17:53.56 | doite | Jmav will they have visability on the cliff? |
| 17:53.57 | Stewox | something like a heigh scanner of the unit |
| 17:54.17 | Stewox | and limit the height he's standing on so he can go down but not up |
| 17:54.38 | doite | Is there a way to preview effects? |
| 17:54.39 | Stewox | you need to make height calculator or scanner whatever call it , that would need custom code |
| 17:54.41 | JManV_ | yes, they will |
| 17:54.41 | doite | behavriors |
| 17:54.58 | Stewox | now then only allow negative height change , but not positive |
| 17:55.34 | Stewox | now the question is to actually get the height data from the unit |
| 17:55.55 | JManV_ | hmmm |
| 17:56.08 | Stewox | if galaxy has a native then it's good to go , if not , it'll be some more challengin to make the code |
| 17:56.28 | Stewox | just get the unit's 3D point |
| 17:56.49 | Stewox | or just coordinate position ... but with the Z |
| 17:57.03 | Stewox | then you can discard the x an Y and use only z of course |
| 17:57.06 | JManV_ | if i'm using code, then it's still going to try and path up the cliff... then just stop |
| 17:57.21 | JManV_ | i don't want it to path up the cliff either |
| 17:57.30 | Stewox | yeah that's what i had in mind just before i told you like ..... |
| 17:57.30 | Vesuvius | maybe there's a way to set some sort of data item |
| 17:57.33 | Vesuvius | and then use it |
| 17:57.41 | Stewox | indeed i did |
| 17:58.43 | JManV_ | hmmm |
| 17:58.47 | Stewox | it would just stop at the point if it's the limit so i said to make a height scanner that allows only negative height change and if it doesn't alow positive , so he'll be limited whenever he tries to even make the first step on the cliff /ramp |
| 17:58.52 | Bibendus | holy shit |
| 17:58.59 | Bibendus | there is another dungeon keeper clone coming out |
| 17:59.00 | Bibendus | lol |
| 17:59.14 | JManV_ | it's not wasd movement, it's path movement like the normal game |
| 17:59.26 | Stewox | i know |
| 17:59.34 | Stewox | but there's got to be some coordiantes for units |
| 17:59.46 | Stewox | if it's a 3Dengine it's everything |
| 17:59.54 | JManV_ | sure there are |
| 17:59.56 | Stewox | it's just a matter of getting the data into the code |
| 18:00.20 | Stewox | and if the editor has a native like examle GetUnit3Dcoordinates |
| 18:00.32 | JManV_ | well, movers themselves don't have a whole lot of options |
| 18:00.45 | Stewox | if not , then it's only a matter of time when somebody figures out alternative ... |
| 18:01.10 | Stewox | lol not only a matter of time , ... if there's no native nobody can tell if it's possible |
| 18:01.23 | Stewox | movers are really barebone in this game |
| 18:01.44 | JManV_ | you can get the unit location |
| 18:01.48 | Stewox | because much of the locomotor is controlled from actor and ... well i saw the movers were so small |
| 18:01.55 | JManV_ | i'm pretty sure you can get the height too |
| 18:02.06 | JManV_ | but once i'm in triggers, it's already to late |
| 18:02.12 | JManV_ | the path has been determined |
| 18:02.18 | Stewox | probably should , because it's not rocket science for blizzard |
| 18:02.20 | JManV_ | i want to prevent pathing up a cliff |
| 18:02.29 | JManV_ | but allow pathing down a cliff |
| 18:03.02 | JManV_ | click on a higher cliff level, it finds a ramp. click on a lower cliff level, it jumps down |
| 18:03.09 | Stewox | ofcourse something like this doesn't exist or im nto aware of ... so even this is an alternative already so ... just pick what you want to do |
| 18:03.43 | Stewox | hmm explain more what do you mean with pathing |
| 18:04.04 | Stewox | going down a cliff like in ramp or like jumpjets ... |
| 18:04.05 | JManV_ | when you click a point, it finds the best path to that point |
| 18:04.21 | Stewox | oh that |
| 18:04.21 | JManV_ | if you allow cliff jumping, but then restrict it in triggers |
| 18:04.35 | JManV_ | then he will try to go up the cliff, then just stop |
| 18:04.49 | Stewox | and you want to do . what ? |
| 18:04.51 | JManV_ | because the trigger said no |
| 18:05.05 | JManV_ | i'm starting to think it's not possible |
| 18:05.14 | JManV_ | allow the pather to path down a cliff, but not up |
| 18:05.27 | Stewox | so path down a cliff |
| 18:05.39 | Stewox | going down the cliff or what im not understanding fully ? |
| 18:05.46 | Stewox | what will you do with only pathing |
| 18:06.05 | Stewox | you mean making a cursor turn into "unwalkable" area ? |
| 18:06.17 | Stewox | that kind of thing , unpassable terrain ? |
| 18:07.10 | JManV_ | click on a higher cliff level, it finds a ramp. click on a lower cliff level, it jumps down |
| 18:07.24 | JManV_ | doesn't require a ramp to go down a cliff |
| 18:07.29 | JManV_ | requires a ramp to go up |
| 18:07.46 | Stewox | oh that's .... totally different thing :) |
| 18:07.49 | Stewox | okay .. |
| 18:08.43 | Stewox | where's the pathing data |
| 18:09.25 | JManV_ | ? |
| 18:09.37 | JManV_ | movers? |
| 18:09.52 | Stewox | movers are the pathing ? |
| 18:09.58 | Stewox | i don't think so |
| 18:10.07 | Stewox | that's locomotor , like engine .. more so to speak |
| 18:10.24 | Stewox | but actors have the advanced options that's why movers are half empty |
| 18:10.28 | Stewox | appear to be |
| 18:11.02 | Stewox | you didn't mod C&C , i have past experience which is a little bit different methodology than this |
| 18:13.51 | JManV_ | i'm not sure |
| 18:13.57 | JManV_ | i'm not seeing anything... |
| 18:14.05 | Stewox | hmmm do i have a feeling that dependencies migh have been fixed ; ! ? or it's just weird thing for me ? cause i just loaded new map and data looks very clear |
| 18:14.19 | Stewox | seeing where ? |
| 18:14.45 | JManV_ | looking in several places... actor, unit |
| 18:15.33 | Stewox | oh there |
| 18:15.36 | Stewox | oh this |
| 18:15.39 | Stewox | im looking too |
| 18:16.04 | Stewox | dependencies ... never mind , my mistake .. |
| 18:16.54 | doite | .. |
| 18:16.55 | doite | woot |
| 18:17.11 | doite | how to make a tank to go in siege mode.. i thought it was animations? |
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| 18:18.47 | Jiiks | yay finished my first item set :P |
| 18:19.28 | doite | yay, but how to make a tank to go siege mode |
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| 18:20.08 | JManV_ | doite: it might actually switch units |
| 18:20.13 | JManV_ | check out the ability |
| 18:20.17 | doite | ah |
| 18:20.21 | doite | ofc ability.. |
| 18:20.26 | doite | i order it to do ability |
| 18:20.26 | doite | ? |
| 18:20.42 | Jiiks | doesnt issue order siege tank-siege mode work? |
| 18:20.56 | doite | exactly |
| 18:20.57 | doite | ill try it |
| 18:24.27 | doite | what is the ability even called |
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| 18:24.42 | Jiiks | Siege Tank - Siege Mode |
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| 18:25.37 | Ashamed | how is everyone this fine afternoon? |
| 18:25.46 | doite | nvm |
| 18:25.54 | doite | fine, ashamed, u? |
| 18:26.14 | Ashamed | i am doin gok |
| 18:26.21 | Ashamed | taking it slow at work |
| 18:29.00 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 18:32.52 | doite | This pisses me off |
| 18:33.18 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:33.24 | Kieldro | hey |
| 18:33.25 | doite | That doesnt put thank in siege mode |
| 18:33.26 | doite | why? |
| 18:33.43 | JManV_ | does it meet the requirements? |
| 18:34.01 | doite | Its no requirements involved |
| 18:34.03 | Kieldro | How do I whisper? |
| 18:34.08 | doite | Well... playerunit =! no unit |
| 18:34.22 | JManV_ | did you remove the requirement on seige mode ability? |
| 18:34.34 | doite | I ... dont know =( |
| 18:34.41 | doite | Probably not |
| 18:34.45 | doite | What does that mean |
| 18:34.45 | JManV_ | it has a requirement |
| 18:34.53 | doite | What is the requirement? |
| 18:34.54 | JManV_ | siege mode must be researched |
| 18:34.59 | doite | Ofc.. |
| 18:35.00 | doite | Lol |
| 18:35.06 | JManV_ | but you can remove that |
| 18:35.07 | doite | .. |
| 18:35.13 | doite | JManV ... =) |
| 18:35.20 | doite | How do i remove this requirement? |
| 18:35.37 | JManV_ | abilities |
| 18:35.38 | doite | Or.. |
| 18:35.43 | JManV_ | siege tank - siege |
| 18:35.46 | doite | Is it a way to research it? |
| 18:35.50 | doite | though triggers |
| 18:35.56 | JManV_ | ability - commands + |
| 18:36.09 | doite | Research siege tank? |
| 18:36.11 | Kieldro | I have a question |
| 18:36.16 | doite | Go |
| 18:36.27 | Kieldro | If I get weaponsArray from catalog |
| 18:36.36 | Kieldro | how can I display it in text |
| 18:36.37 | Kieldro | ? |
| 18:36.53 | doite | never done dont know |
| 18:36.58 | Kieldro | like Units, Thor, WeaponsArray |
| 18:37.04 | Kieldro | is an array of weapons |
| 18:37.13 | JManV_ | double click on execute |
| 18:37.22 | Kieldro | how do I change one of those weapons into text |
| 18:37.28 | JManV_ | and click the red X near the bottom to remove the requirement |
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| 18:38.02 | allenmellon | Kieldro: ?? |
| 18:38.15 | Kieldro | using catalog |
| 18:38.23 | Kieldro | I look up thor |
| 18:38.28 | Kieldro | in the unit catalog |
| 18:38.36 | Kieldro | fieldpath: WeaponsArray |
| 18:38.43 | Kieldro | returns an array of weapons |
| 18:39.08 | Kieldro | I want to take one of those weapons, covert it to text and output it so I can read it |
| 18:39.09 | JManV_ | i'm so tired |
| 18:39.16 | JManV_ | sleep last night was 4 hours of laying in bed |
| 18:39.21 | Kieldro | Answer me JMan |
| 18:39.25 | Kieldro | ! |
| 18:39.44 | JManV_ | WeaponsArray[i].Field |
| 18:40.02 | JManV_ | figuring out the field names for catalog items can be tought |
| 18:40.05 | Kieldro | Can I do it with triggers? |
| 18:40.11 | JManV_ | definitely |
| 18:40.22 | JManV_ | but its a pain |
| 18:40.24 | Kieldro | you can find the field names with raw data editor |
| 18:40.36 | JManV_ | for the most part, yes |
| 18:40.44 | Jiiks | doite- tech tree - add 1 to siege tank - siege tech for player x |
| 18:41.18 | JManV_ | it's probablye WeaponsArray[i].Link |
| 18:41.20 | Stewox | jman |
| 18:41.26 | Stewox | you're still modding high ? |
| 18:41.32 | JManV_ | yeah |
| 18:41.35 | Kieldro | what type of variable array can I store the array in? |
| 18:41.52 | Kieldro | its not string, and its not unit type |
| 18:41.58 | JManV_ | everything you retrieve from the catalog is a string |
| 18:42.05 | Kieldro | really? |
| 18:42.08 | JManV_ | yes |
| 18:42.14 | JManV_ | you can convert it |
| 18:42.18 | JManV_ | but it starts as a string |
| 18:42.30 | JManV_ | anyways, its actually a link to the weapon object |
| 18:42.35 | Kieldro | so weaponsarray is an array of strings |
| 18:42.40 | JManV_ | so then you need to go into the weapon catalog |
| 18:42.43 | Stewox | where can i find PARAM/VALUE/A638DVCG .... gamestrings.txt ? |
| 18:42.44 | JManV_ | with that string |
| 18:43.34 | JManV_ | you'd request the field "Name" from the weapons catalog |
| 18:43.45 | JManV_ | make sense? |
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| 18:44.07 | Kieldro | still messing with it |
| 18:44.46 | Kieldro | do you program mostly in galaxy or with triggers jman? |
| 18:44.53 | JManV_ | variable weapon_id = catalog get value (units, gamelink to string(unit type of unit(thor))), WeaponArray[0].Link) |
| 18:44.54 | JManV_ | triggers |
| 18:45.13 | JManV_ | variable weapon_name_id = catalog get value (weapons, weapon_id, Name) |
| 18:45.48 | Kieldro | Text Message |
| 18:45.48 | Kieldro | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.48 | Kieldro | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.48 | Kieldro | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.48 | Kieldro | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.49 | Kieldro | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.49 | Kieldro | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.50 | Kieldro | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.50 | Kieldro | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.53 | Kieldro | thats what I got so far |
| 18:46.18 | JManV_ | field path is not WeaponArray |
| 18:46.47 | JManV_ | first of all, do it in steps |
| 18:46.54 | Kieldro | k |
| 18:46.54 | JManV_ | store each step in a variable |
| 18:47.03 | JManV_ | and then move to the next step |
| 18:47.10 | JManV_ | so first you need to get the weapon id |
| 18:47.25 | Kieldro | I created an array of strings variable |
| 18:47.41 | Kieldro | ya how do I get that |
| 18:47.56 | JManV_ | do you want all the weapon names? |
| 18:48.02 | Kieldro | just 1 is fine |
| 18:48.03 | JManV_ | for that unit? |
| 18:48.12 | JManV_ | then you don't need an array |
| 18:48.19 | JManV_ | make a string variable, weapon id |
| 18:48.25 | JManV_ | set it to: |
| 18:48.34 | JManV_ | catalog field value get |
| 18:48.37 | JManV_ | catalog: units |
| 18:48.56 | JManV_ | entry: convert gamelink to string -> unit type of unit -> roach |
| 18:49.14 | JManV_ | fieldpath: "WeaponArray[0].Link" |
| 18:49.22 | Kieldro | ah |
| 18:49.34 | JManV_ | no you've got the id of the wepaon |
| 18:49.58 | JManV_ | like if you double click on the weapon object in the editor |
| 18:50.00 | JManV_ | the ID |
| 18:50.23 | JManV_ | so you use that to dig into the weapon catalog |
| 18:50.39 | JManV_ | create a new string varaible, weapon name link |
| 18:50.54 | JManV_ | set it to: catalog field value get |
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| 18:51.00 | JManV_ | catalog: weapons |
| 18:51.06 | JManV_ | entry: weapon id |
| 18:51.11 | JManV_ | field path: "Name" |
| 18:51.22 | Kieldro | ah ha, think I go it |
| 18:51.28 | JManV_ | one more step |
| 18:51.37 | JManV_ | the value you store is actually a link to game text |
| 18:51.41 | JManV_ | you need to conver it |
| 18:52.36 | JManV_ | "Convert Game Text" |
| 18:52.46 | JManV_ | you can do that in your text message |
| 18:53.02 | Kieldro | can you explain why [0].Link works? |
| 18:53.03 | JManV_ | text message - message: convert game text(weapon name link) |
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| 18:53.20 | JManV_ | [0] is the first element in the weapon array |
| 18:53.34 | JManV_ | "Link" is the name of the sub field |
| 18:53.38 | JManV_ | there is only one |
| 18:53.57 | JManV_ | to be true... i'm only hoping that works |
| 18:54.05 | JManV_ | but that's how it worked for me with abiltiies |
| 18:54.15 | JManV_ | it took me a while to figure out the "Link" part of it |
| 18:54.15 | Kieldro | it works |
| 18:54.27 | Kieldro | ya how did you figure out the Link? |
| 18:54.34 | JManV_ | i think from sc2mapster |
| 18:54.54 | Kieldro | is that sub field show up somewhere in the data editor? |
| 18:54.58 | Kieldro | does* |
| 18:55.02 | JManV_ | but when it's an array of linked objects like that, that seems to be how itworks |
| 18:56.12 | JManV_ | i don't think it does |
| 18:56.49 | Kieldro | its harder to write functions with triggers than in code right? |
| 18:57.08 | JManV_ | it depends |
| 18:57.19 | JManV_ | code is bad a referencing game world objects |
| 18:57.28 | JManV_ | triggers are bad at everything else :) |
| 18:57.37 | Kieldro | How would you describe triggers as a programming language? |
| 18:57.39 | JManV_ | code is also a lot more prone to syntax errors |
| 18:57.48 | JManV_ | javascript-like i guess |
| 18:58.01 | JManV_ | i haven't really done much actual code-writing |
| 18:58.16 | Dustin | Code is where it's at if you're a programmer |
| 18:58.23 | Kieldro | its hard for me to think in terms of triggers |
| 18:58.24 | JManV_ | but the trigger editor drives me nuts |
| 18:58.26 | Kieldro | instead of functions |
| 18:58.31 | Kieldro | lol |
| 18:58.45 | JManV_ | it's hard to use the GUI |
| 18:58.50 | JManV_ | i can think in triggers just fine |
| 18:58.52 | Dustin | I just get sick as fuck of clicking to code |
| 18:59.01 | JManV_ | try making a complex mathematical equation using the GUI |
| 18:59.09 | JManV_ | indeed |
| 18:59.12 | Dustin | Give me a notepad, syntax notes and I'm good |
| 18:59.15 | JManV_ | so mouse-dependant |
| 18:59.23 | JManV_ | programmers don't use mice |
| 18:59.38 | Dustin | lol I went a whole day not using the mouse once |
| 18:59.41 | Dustin | just cause |
| 18:59.54 | JManV_ | i use a lot of hotkeys in the trigger editor |
| 19:00.10 | JManV_ | i can set up a complex combine text multiple entirely with the keyboard |
| 19:00.18 | JManV_ | i do it all the time |
| 19:00.21 | Dustin | Nice |
| 19:00.56 | JManV_ | it'd be nicer if there was more |
| 19:01.15 | JManV_ | like wtf with creating a variable, then having to tab like 4 times to set it |
| 19:01.27 | JManV_ | it's type |
| 19:02.09 | JManV_ | oh, i guess it's just once |
| 19:02.11 | JManV_ | my bad |
| 19:02.21 | JManV_ | i might use that more |
| 19:02.58 | Kieldro | What if I want the whole weaponArray in a local array? |
| 19:03.13 | JManV_ | store it item by item |
| 19:03.18 | JManV_ | first you need to get the count |
| 19:03.26 | JManV_ | which is another function |
| 19:03.51 | JManV_ | Catalog Field Value Count |
| 19:04.00 | JManV_ | and "WeaponArray" would be your field path |
| 19:04.30 | JManV_ | then you would have to assemble the string "WeaponArray[" + i + "].Link" for 0 to nElements - 1 |
| 19:05.12 | JManV_ | make sense? |
| 19:05.15 | Kieldro | ya |
| 19:05.28 | Kieldro | and iterate through it with catalog get |
| 19:05.36 | JManV_ | exactly |
| 19:05.52 | JManV_ | the nice thing is, once you figure that out, the catalog's basically an open book |
| 19:06.00 | Kieldro | is there a way to encapsulate this in a seperate trigger without global variables? |
| 19:06.01 | JManV_ | if you care to dig deep enough |
| 19:06.07 | JManV_ | local variables |
| 19:06.33 | JManV_ | you should probably make a function too |
| 19:06.37 | Kieldro | can you pass locals from trigger to trigger? |
| 19:06.40 | JManV_ | "Get Unit Weapon Name" |
| 19:06.44 | JManV_ | parameters |
| 19:07.14 | JManV_ | not from trigger to trigger |
| 19:07.21 | JManV_ | but from trigger to function/action definition |
| 19:07.32 | JManV_ | but you can't pass arrays :( |
| 19:07.54 | Kieldro | so fuctions can only be done with code? |
| 19:08.00 | JManV_ | no |
| 19:08.07 | JManV_ | you can do functions from the GUI |
| 19:08.20 | Kieldro | how do you do that? |
| 19:08.30 | JManV_ | on the left side, new > function |
| 19:08.48 | Kieldro | oh sweet |
| 19:08.56 | JManV_ | an action definition is basically a function that doesn't return anything |
| 19:09.18 | JManV_ | if you call a function, you *have* to use the return value |
| 19:09.38 | JManV_ | you can't just call a function, you set a variable to it's value |
| 19:09.44 | JManV_ | but you can just call an action defintion |
| 19:10.08 | Kieldro | I see |
| 19:10.13 | Vail | i dont |
| 19:10.19 | Dustin | We know Vail |
| 19:10.22 | Kieldro | What maps have you made jman? |
| 19:10.50 | JManV_ | i'm working on a couple |
| 19:11.01 | JManV_ | i'm a little too ambitious for my own good tho :P |
| 19:11.19 | Kieldro | lol |
| 19:11.25 | Kieldro | any cool complete ones? |
| 19:11.44 | JManV_ | no, i started not that long ago |
| 19:11.51 | Kieldro | oh |
| 19:11.51 | JManV_ | i'm working on a pokemon map right now |
| 19:11.56 | JManV_ | it's the bee's knees |
| 19:11.58 | Kieldro | lol |
| 19:12.18 | Kieldro | will it be same perspective as melee? |
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| 19:12.25 | Dustin | JManV, I suffer from that to :P |
| 19:12.28 | JManV_ | yeah |
| 19:12.39 | Kieldro | Are you getting pokemon models? |
| 19:12.47 | JManV_ | no, they will be sc2 units |
| 19:12.48 | Dustin | But Im following through with my mod |
| 19:12.51 | Vail | sigh |
| 19:12.53 | Kieldro | ah |
| 19:13.02 | JManV_ | most likely with goofy names |
| 19:13.08 | JManV_ | marinasaur |
| 19:13.12 | Kieldro | lol |
| 19:13.14 | JManV_ | etc |
| 19:13.44 | Kieldro | baneling should definitely be one |
| 19:13.48 | JManV_ | baulbaling :P |
| 19:14.16 | Stewox | jman , still not going to pause modding anytime soon , i just love to be whiny this time i know how deep inside you want the fix haha |
| 19:14.25 | Dustin | Squirgling |
| 19:14.32 | JManV_ | stew: i'm at work now... not even on that computer |
| 19:14.42 | Stewox | that ... unfortunate |
| 19:14.50 | JManV_ | working hard :P |
| 19:14.58 | Stewox | and modding :) |
| 19:15.06 | Stewox | or only chatting i guess |
| 19:15.18 | JManV_ | mostly just chatting |
| 19:15.23 | JManV_ | some modding, some working |
| 19:15.39 | Stewox | what if boss finds |
| 19:15.40 | JManV_ | i like to mix a little work into my tight goofing-off schedule :) |
| 19:16.10 | JManV_ | fortunately, the trigger and data editors look a lot like work stuff |
| 19:17.05 | Stewox | the only time you're at home PC is the time when it's midnight for me .... most unfortunate |
| 19:17.12 | Stewox | it seems |
| 19:17.34 | JManV_ | yeah, i'm going to bed when i get home from work |
| 19:17.41 | JManV_ | i got like no sleep last night |
| 19:17.59 | JManV_ | but stew: my computer is fine |
| 19:18.08 | JManV_ | i know a thing or 70 about comptuers |
| 19:18.23 | Stewox | why quit if it can be even better |
| 19:18.32 | Stewox | but 4 GB is not a lot anymore ... |
| 19:18.39 | Stewox | that's right |
| 19:18.50 | JManV_ | it really isn't |
| 19:19.07 | Stewox | but don't expect just a single thing to change the whole behavior |
| 19:19.16 | JManV_ | i had 8G, but i had to move 4 to another computer |
| 19:19.57 | JManV_ | oh, when you're paging memory, just a little bit of RAM can make a huge difference |
| 19:27.07 | Stewox | paging memory ? |
| 19:27.13 | Stewox | what do yo mean by that |
| 19:28.40 | Dustin | Virtual Memory |
| 19:28.56 | Stewox | mhm |
| 19:28.59 | Stewox | i guessed it |
| 19:29.14 | Stewox | ofcourse that's the turd i never going to rurn on |
| 19:29.26 | Stewox | now that i have 6 gb , pagefile ... GONE! |
| 19:29.43 | Dustin | Ya thatll speed shit up |
| 19:30.47 | Stewox | because when i had Xp , was like not as experienced and it was so annoying the RIGHT CLICK lag , the right click menu was so lagy and so was the icons on desktop nonresponsive it was overally very annoying |
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| 19:32.22 | Stewox | and now i just blased off with the super win7 settings , that's all i did for 1 week after a format , getting in the right settings in , everything documented , every change in registery , settings , services , ..etc |
| 19:33.19 | Stewox | got to like 700 MB from 1100MB memory at boot , there's also a single useless service that takes 100 MB memory |
| 19:35.40 | Stewox | you think that's easy , just try to find pro advanced tuts and solutions , you're searching for days , filtering out the stupid "3 steps to speed up" webshit out , it's full of crap articles and sites which get the top numbers on search |
| 19:36.14 | Dustin | Most stuff is pretty straight forward |
| 19:36.30 | Stewox | yeah , when you understand it ... |
| 19:36.30 | Dustin | Especially with the new task manger telling you exactly what the process is for and where it's from |
| 19:36.41 | Dustin | Yeah |
| 19:37.00 | Stewox | now that i do , i can agree of course :) |
| 19:37.03 | Dustin | I've been working with computers since I was like 10 |
| 19:37.09 | Dustin | So Im a bit biased :P |
| 19:37.37 | Stewox | because i can't really have time to figure out my self what and where to find something in registery |
| 19:37.47 | Stewox | even if i could |
| 19:38.13 | Stewox | ..... social life needs to live too .... |
| 19:38.40 | Dustin | Yeah |
| 19:38.52 | Dustin | Googling skills are imperitive to any I.T. job |
| 19:39.07 | Dustin | Makes my life alot easier if I can google like a pro lol |
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| 19:45.31 | JManV_ | people joke at work that all i do is google stuff and tell them to reboot |
| 19:45.57 | JManV_ | to which i say: if my job's that easy, why are you calling me for help? |
| 19:46.51 | Stewox | rebooting is kind of old now doesn't it , it's something it very natural for .... im having here the hardcore stuff it's not those normal problems a reboot can fix , rebooting can't change any setting by it self :) |
| 19:47.31 | Stewox | generally speaking |
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| 19:48.29 | JManV_ | rebooting is sometimes just restarting a program |
| 19:48.30 | Stewox | if you run PC for a week of course you need to reboot , that's fundamental in pc |
| 19:48.35 | JManV_ | not necessarily the whole computer |
| 19:48.56 | Stewox | ... well that's not the correct word you're using there son |
| 19:48.59 | JManV_ | if outlook's freaking out... "did you try closing it and reopening it?".... "no" |
| 19:49.10 | Dustin | Reboot is the first thing you should try to fix the problem because 80% of the time it's fixed on the next bootup |
| 19:49.20 | Shawn|Rawr | "Is your pc plugged in" ... "I didn't even look" |
| 19:49.24 | Shawn|Rawr | :S |
| 19:49.24 | Dustin | lol |
| 19:49.27 | Stewox | rebooting is specifically OS boot , the OS boots , a program/service starts |
| 19:49.31 | Stewox | restarts .. |
| 19:49.32 | Stewox | et |
| 19:50.17 | Shawn|Rawr | "It's plugged in". "sir, i'm pretty sure your outlet is messed up" |
| 19:50.33 | Shawn|Rawr | "I've tried 6 of them". "they are all messed up" |
| 19:50.46 | Shawn|Rawr | ^^ me as an IT |
| 19:50.57 | JManV_ | yeah that's the other thing i say... "i wouldn't recommend rebooting if it didn't work so darned often" |
| 19:52.00 | JManV_ | w00t! it's shipping already! |
| 19:52.01 | Stewox | well not that it's bad , some problems don't involve reboot since it wouldn't make any effect , being a pro IT guy is knowing which things rely and which not |
| 19:52.18 | JManV_ | i love newegg |
| 19:52.22 | Dustin | Me to |
| 19:52.43 | JManV_ | i just ordered something this morning... prolly get it wednesday |
| 19:52.49 | JManV_ | thursday at the latest |
| 19:53.19 | JManV_ | 8-port RAID card ftw! |
| 19:53.42 | JManV_ | i'm gonna RAID 5 me a shit-ton of hard drives |
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| 19:54.02 | Slaydon | 3: |
| 19:54.19 | Slaydon | purl: what is the fear of long words? |
| 19:54.20 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Slaydon |
| 19:54.25 | Slaydon | NOES |
| 19:54.36 | ckknight | be nice to purl |
| 19:54.37 | Slaydon | purl: what is Sesquilianion |
| 19:54.37 | purl | Slaydon: what are you talking about? |
| 19:54.44 | Slaydon | there is something else.. |
| 19:54.45 | Slaydon | wait |
| 19:55.12 | Shawn|Rawr | Slayd, do something productive like invent edible toilet paper |
| 19:55.22 | JManV_ | ewww |
| 19:55.26 | JManV_ | what a horrible idea |
| 19:55.26 | ckknight | very eww |
| 19:55.28 | Slaydon | purl, the fear of long words is hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia |
| 19:55.28 | purl | okay, Slaydon |
| 19:55.37 | ckknight | ~the fear of long words |
| 19:55.53 | ckknight | ~rinsult |
| 19:55.53 | Slaydon | purl: what is hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia? |
| 19:55.55 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Slaydon |
| 19:56.11 | Slaydon | I RECENTLY THAUGHT YOU THAT IDIOT, THIS MORNING |
| 19:56.16 | Slaydon | purl die! |
| 19:56.16 | purl | !lart slaydon |
| 19:56.21 | Slaydon | -.- |
| 19:56.32 | Slaydon | purl buy me a drink. |
| 19:56.32 | purl | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen a drink.s for slaydon |
| 19:56.38 | Slaydon | thats better. |
| 19:56.48 | Shawn|Rawr | purl eat slaydon |
| 19:56.48 | purl | ACTION slurps up all the slaydon available |
| 19:56.59 | Slaydon | purl poop me out now! |
| 19:56.59 | purl | ACTION poops on me out now! |
| 19:57.03 | Slaydon | wat |
| 19:57.06 | Slaydon | o_O |
| 19:57.09 | ckknight | ~poop Slaydon |
| 19:57.09 | purl | ACTION poops on Slaydon |
| 19:57.10 | Dustin | ... |
| 19:57.11 | Vail | Shop smart Shop S-Mart? |
| 19:57.28 | Slaydon | purl put Vail into prison. |
| 19:57.39 | Slaydon | purl arrest vail. |
| 19:57.39 | purl | http://vail..wasarrested.com |
| 19:57.43 | Slaydon | o_o |
| 19:57.53 | Slaydon | im not clicking that one purl. |
| 19:58.00 | Shawn|Rawr | doesnt work anyway |
| 19:58.05 | Shawn|Rawr | purl arrest vail |
| 19:58.05 | purl | http://vail.wasarrested.com |
| 19:58.05 | Slaydon | ~wikipedia hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia |
| 19:58.31 | Shawn|Rawr | Says vail was arrested for indecent exposure |
| 19:59.02 | Vail | purl arrest Shawn |
| 19:59.02 | purl | http://Shawn.wasarrested.com |
| 19:59.05 | Vail | ack |
| 19:59.08 | Vail | any way |
| 19:59.55 | Slaydon | ~arrest Vail |
| 19:59.55 | purl | http://Vail.wasarrested.com |
| 20:00.07 | Shawn|Rawr | purl kill yourself |
| 20:00.07 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited anti-neutrino gun at yourself |
| 20:00.12 | Slaydon | ~roundhouse shawn |
| 20:00.23 | Slaydon | purl roundhouse shawn |
| 20:00.34 | Slaydon | purl: ROUNDHOUSE SOMEONE |
| 20:00.35 | Shawn|Rawr | purl kick slaydon |
| 20:00.35 | purl | ACTION kicks slaydon |
| 20:00.38 | Slaydon | FU |
| 20:00.48 | Slaydon | purl kick and punch shawn. |
| 20:00.49 | purl | ACTION kicks and punch shawn. |
| 20:01.02 | Vail | purl die |
| 20:01.02 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 20:01.08 | Slaydon | purl get back to life |
| 20:01.08 | purl | ACTION fetches back to life |
| 20:01.10 | JManV_ | sweet |
| 20:01.31 | Shawn|Rawr | purl eat jews |
| 20:01.31 | purl | ACTION eats jews and falls over dead |
| 20:01.31 | Slaydon | purl sing justin bieber. |
| 20:01.38 | Slaydon | -.- |
| 20:01.38 | JManV_ | i don't think you can just "fetch" back to life |
| 20:01.51 | Vail | specially if you are alreasd dead |
| 20:01.51 | Slaydon | you can now. |
| 20:01.56 | JManV_ | eats jews is preprogrammed? |
| 20:01.57 | Slaydon | purl SING |
| 20:01.58 | purl | ACTION sings loudly |
| 20:02.02 | JManV_ | i'm a little worried about that |
| 20:02.06 | Slaydon | purl sing to justin bieber. |
| 20:02.18 | JManV_ | purl eat jews |
| 20:02.18 | purl | That's too disgusting. |
| 20:02.20 | Slaydon | purl is a noob |
| 20:02.26 | Slaydon | purl be a noob |
| 20:02.37 | Slaydon | purl zergling rush. |
| 20:02.38 | JManV_ | purl eat butt |
| 20:02.38 | purl | That's too disgusting. |
| 20:02.43 | Shawn|Rawr | ~purl |
| 20:02.43 | purl | purl is, like, a far prettier chatbot than you. |
| 20:02.45 | Slaydon | purl eat edible food. |
| 20:02.45 | purl | ACTION slurps up all the edible food. available |
| 20:02.54 | Vail | purl eat brains |
| 20:02.54 | purl | ACTION slurps up all the brains available |
| 20:02.59 | Slaydon | purl eat poop |
| 20:02.59 | purl | ACTION eats poop and falls over dead |
| 20:03.08 | Slaydon | purl get back to life |
| 20:03.08 | purl | ACTION fetches back to life |
| 20:03.21 | Slaydon | purl drink toxic poison |
| 20:03.21 | purl | drinks toxic poison in one swig, turns blue, green, and ultraviolet, and then vomits toxic poison across the room |
| 20:03.28 | JManV_ | purl die |
| 20:03.28 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 20:03.29 | Slaydon | eww. |
| 20:03.33 | JManV_ | purl kill |
| 20:03.33 | Slaydon | NOT YET |
| 20:03.38 | Slaydon | purl get back to life for a moment |
| 20:03.38 | purl | ACTION fetches back to life for a moment |
| 20:03.43 | Slaydon | purl wash the room. |
| 20:03.43 | purl | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on the room. and says "That was for the smell" |
| 20:03.43 | JManV_ | purl kill shawn |
| 20:03.43 | purl | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged anti-quark gun at shawn |
| 20:04.01 | Slaydon | purl do the dance. |
| 20:04.01 | purl | ACTION does the dance.. |
| 20:04.06 | Slaydon | alriiitee |
| 20:04.26 | Vail | purl do the dance of sorrow |
| 20:04.26 | purl | ACTION does the dance of sorrow. |
| 20:04.45 | Slaydon | ~seen progammer |
| 20:04.46 | purl | progammer <4516badd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.22.186.221> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 14h 46m 25s ago, saying: 'Demalii: i have no idea about it'. |
| 20:04.58 | Slaydon | ~seen Demalii |
| 20:04.59 | purl | demalii <48b1c407@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.177.196.7> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 11h 30m 6s ago, saying: 'i'll look into it thanks '. |
| 20:05.10 | Slaydon | lol |
| 20:05.16 | Shawn|Rawr | http://www.qdb.us/304924 |
| 20:05.17 | Slaydon | progammer answers someone 3 hours later. |
| 20:05.22 | JManV_ | ~seen JManV |
| 20:05.23 | purl | jmanv is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 35 messages. Is idling for 13h 12m 48s, last said: 'not sure how i want to play this then'. |
| 20:05.26 | Slaydon | purl eat comments. |
| 20:05.26 | purl | ACTION eats comments. and falls over dead |
| 20:05.39 | Shawn|Rawr | purl live |
| 20:05.39 | purl | ACTION rises from the dead and starts eating people. |
| 20:05.48 | Slaydon | im annoying |
| 20:05.52 | Slaydon | purl: who is slaydon? |
| 20:05.52 | purl | from memory, slaydon is still annoying |
| 20:05.56 | Slaydon | 3: |
| 20:06.02 | Slaydon | purl, forget Slaydon |
| 20:06.03 | purl | i forgot slaydon, Slaydon |
| 20:06.10 | Slaydon | purl: who is slaydon? |
| 20:06.11 | purl | Slaydon: I think you lost me on that one |
| 20:06.24 | Shawn|Rawr | purl what is shawns map |
| 20:06.24 | purl | rumour has it, shawns map is purty |
| 20:06.31 | Shawn|Rawr | truth |
| 20:06.48 | Slaydon | purl, Slaydon is a bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk |
| 20:06.48 | purl | okay, Slaydon |
| 20:07.02 | Slaydon | purl: who is slaydon? |
| 20:07.02 | purl | somebody said slaydon was a bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk |
| 20:07.06 | JManV_ | purl what is slaydon |
| 20:07.06 | purl | from memory, slaydon is a bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk |
| 20:07.07 | Slaydon | :D |
| 20:07.20 | Slaydon | ~wikipedia bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk |
| 20:07.20 | JManV_ | purl how is slaydon |
| 20:07.20 | purl | JManV_: I think you lost me on that one |
| 20:07.25 | Slaydon | 3: |
| 20:07.31 | JManV_ | hehe |
| 20:07.44 | JManV_ | purl where is slaydon |
| 20:07.44 | purl | slaydon is, like, a bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk |
| 20:07.59 | Shawn|Rawr | ~wikipedia bdsm |
| 20:07.59 | JManV_ | purl eat slaydon |
| 20:07.59 | purl | ACTION eats slaydon and falls over dead |
| 20:08.19 | Slaydon | purl: eat LopadoÂÂtemachoÂÂselachoÂÂgaleoÂÂkranioÂÂleipsanoÂÂdrimÂÂhypoÂÂtrimmatoÂÂsilphioÂÂparaoÂÂmelitoÂÂkatakechyÂÂmenoÂÂkichlÂÂepiÂÂkossyphoÂÂphattoÂÂperisterÂÂalektryonÂÂopteÂÂkephallioÂÂkigkloÂÂpeleioÂÂlagoioÂÂsiraioÂÂbapheÂÂtraganoÂÂpterygon |
| 20:08.19 | purl | ACTION slurps up all the LopadoÂÂtemachoÂÂselachoÂÂgaleoÂÂkranioÂÂleipsanoÂÂdrimÂÂhypoÂÂtrimmatoÂÂsilphioÂÂparaoÂÂmelitoÂÂkatakechyÂÂmenoÂÂkichlÂÂepiÂÂkossyphoÂÂphattoÂÂperisterÂÂalektryonÂÂopteÂÂkephallioÂÂkigkloÂÂpeleioÂÂlagoioÂÂsiraioÂÂbapheÂÂtraganoÂÂpterygon available |
| 20:08.57 | JManV_ | purl eat a dick |
| 20:08.57 | purl | That's too disgusting. |
| 20:09.00 | Slaydon | ~wikipedia LopadoÂÂtemachoÂÂselachoÂÂgaleoÂÂkranioÂÂleipsanoÂÂdrimÂÂhypoÂÂtrimmatoÂÂsilphioÂÂparaoÂÂmelitoÂÂkatakechyÂÂmenoÂÂkichlÂÂepiÂÂkossyphoÂÂphattoÂÂperisterÂÂalektryonÂÂopteÂÂkephallioÂÂkigkloÂÂpeleioÂÂlagoioÂÂsiraioÂÂbapheÂÂtraganoÂÂpterygon |
| 20:09.06 | Slaydon | D:! |
| 20:09.11 | Slaydon | why cant you find those urls... |
| 20:09.27 | JManV_ | defective |
| 20:09.31 | JManV_ | purl is defective |
| 20:09.42 | JManV_ | purl what is purl |
| 20:09.42 | purl | well, purl is a far prettier chatbot than you. |
| 20:09.55 | JManV_ | ~purl is dumb |
| 20:09.58 | *** join/#sc2mapster Skittles (ad39a794@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.57.167.148) |
| 20:09.59 | Slaydon | purl, lukkedoerendunandurraskewdylooshoofermoyportertooryzooysphalnabortansporthaokansakroidverjkapakkapuk is 1. (nonce word) A sound which represents the shutting of doors |
| 20:09.59 | purl | that's too long, Slaydon |
| 20:10.01 | Skittles | Hey |
| 20:10.07 | Slaydon | no its not! fuuu |
| 20:10.11 | Skittles | Anybody ever set up a internet connection b4? |
| 20:10.24 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes |
| 20:10.26 | Shawn|Rawr | Maybe |
| 20:10.28 | Slaydon | ~wikipedia lukkedoerendunandurraskewdylooshoofermoyportertooryzooysphalnabortansporthaokansakroidverjkapakkapuk |
| 20:10.28 | Shawn|Rawr | Sure |
| 20:10.32 | Skittles | Try and walk me through it? |
| 20:10.36 | Slaydon | wth.. |
| 20:10.42 | JManV_ | purl set up skittles' internet |
| 20:10.43 | Skittles | The main computer with router is set up |
| 20:10.44 | Stewox | anyways |
| 20:10.50 | Stewox | what was the tools update today |
| 20:10.55 | JManV_ | purl eat skittles |
| 20:10.55 | purl | ACTION eats skittles and falls over dead |
| 20:10.58 | Shawn|Rawr | That was a while ago |
| 20:10.58 | Skittles | But how do I get my computer to connect? |
| 20:11.05 | Skittles | I just restored it so it has nothing |
| 20:11.18 | Skittles | when the hell did u guys add this shit? xd |
| 20:11.19 | Slaydon | purl, Skittles is a Tetaumatawhakatangihangakoauaotamateaurehaeaturipukapihimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuaakitanarahu |
| 20:11.19 | purl | ...but skittles is already something else... |
| 20:11.23 | Slaydon | D: |
| 20:11.30 | Shawn|Rawr | Ethernet or Wireless? |
| 20:11.33 | Skittles | Purl what is skittles |
| 20:11.33 | purl | skittles are pooped by unicorns |
| 20:11.34 | Skittles | wireless |
| 20:11.38 | Skittles | Verison |
| 20:11.58 | Shawn|Rawr | Oh.. you mean like one of those laptop cards? |
| 20:12.11 | Slaydon | purl, JManV is Tetaumatawhakatangihangakoauaotamateaurehaeaturipukapihimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuaakitanarahu |
| 20:12.11 | purl | Slaydon: okay |
| 20:12.25 | JManV_ | purl who is JManV |
| 20:12.25 | purl | it has been said that jmanv is Tetaumatawhakatangihangakoauaotamateaurehaeaturipukapihimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuaakitanarahu |
| 20:12.33 | JManV_ | well i never! |
| 20:12.35 | Stewox | Tetaumatakamakasakapakalakatakamaka |
| 20:12.40 | Slaydon | ("The hill where the great traveller (Chief) Tamatea with the bony knees, who slid and climbed mountains, played his flute to his beloved.") |
| 20:12.44 | Slaydon | :3 |
| 20:12.53 | Slaydon | thats you jman |
| 20:13.06 | JManV_ | son of a... |
| 20:13.07 | Skittles | laptop? idk |
| 20:13.11 | Skittles | it's a router |
| 20:13.45 | JManV_ | good think i'm JManV_ |
| 20:13.46 | Shawn|Rawr | Uhh.. I didn't know verizon did that kind of thing |
| 20:13.53 | JManV_ | JManV is some dude that's idling |
| 20:13.58 | JManV_ | (from my computer at home) |
| 20:14.06 | JManV_ | but he's not me! i swear! |
| 20:14.28 | Shawn|Rawr | Where is Dustin? |
| 20:14.41 | JManV_ | purl where is dustin |
| 20:14.42 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, JManV_ |
| 20:14.46 | JManV_ | bitch! |
| 20:14.55 | Skittles | verison does home phone cable internet cell phones |
| 20:14.57 | Skittles | they do it all. |
| 20:15.03 | *** join/#sc2mapster SC2NappingKitten (~BenZegvel@217-19-26-88.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 20:15.07 | Dustin | I'm right here |
| 20:15.12 | Shawn|Rawr | Help skittles |
| 20:15.22 | Shawn|Rawr | He is trying to connect to his router |
| 20:15.26 | Skittles | =D |
| 20:15.34 | Shawn|Rawr | via a laptop of unknown OS |
| 20:15.37 | Dustin | Click the connect button :D |
| 20:15.57 | Shawn|Rawr | kinect? |
| 20:16.06 | Shawn|Rawr | ~wikipedia kinect |
| 20:16.25 | Skittles | connect? Xd |
| 20:16.36 | Dustin | Explain your situation :P |
| 20:16.42 | Skittles | kay |
| 20:16.47 | Skittles | Just restored my computer |
| 20:16.53 | Stewox | kinetic connect |
| 20:16.54 | Skittles | now I want to hook it back up to the internet |
| 20:17.06 | Dustin | What are you on right now? |
| 20:17.06 | Skittles | My dads computer has the router and that part is set up |
| 20:17.09 | Shawn|Rawr | The wireless card + drivers are working? |
| 20:17.12 | Obatztrara | any validator pros here? ;) |
| 20:17.14 | Skittles | my dads computer im on now |
| 20:17.22 | Dustin | Ok, so you want to setup Wireless? |
| 20:17.27 | Skittles | yeah |
| 20:17.35 | Dustin | Should be on by default |
| 20:17.40 | Dustin | What kind of router is it |
| 20:17.58 | Skittles | verison |
| 20:18.10 | Jiiks | install drivers and it should auto connect |
| 20:18.13 | Skittles | http://www22.verizon.com/ResidentialHelp/HighSpeed/Networking/SetUp/AddWireless/126550.htm |
| 20:18.22 | Skittles | how to get the drivers then Xd |
| 20:18.32 | Shawn|Rawr | get an ethernet cord? |
| 20:18.41 | Shawn|Rawr | oh wait |
| 20:18.44 | Jiiks | what are you using for internet now? |
| 20:18.48 | Skittles | who the heck wants a ethernet cord @.@ |
| 20:18.56 | Skittles | My dads computer is still hooked up |
| 20:19.01 | Skittles | he had the main computer with the router |
| 20:19.05 | Skittles | I restored my computer not his |
| 20:19.05 | Jiiks | and what's your wlan adapter make&model |
| 20:19.17 | Shawn|Rawr | Haha. |
| 20:19.17 | Skittles | I think it's : http://www22.verizon.com/ResidentialHelp/HighSpeed/Networking/SetUp/AddWireless/126550.htm |
| 20:19.26 | Skittles | Picture looks like it any way |
| 20:19.33 | Stewox | lol |
| 20:19.36 | Stewox | Verizon |
| 20:19.37 | Shawn|Rawr | Does the little wireless icon show up in the bottom right? |
| 20:19.37 | Skittles | ;P |
| 20:19.46 | Dustin | Looks liek it should be Plug and Play drivers |
| 20:19.48 | Stewox | i always thought it said Verzion |
| 20:19.56 | Jiiks | that's the router i mean the adapter inside your pc |
| 20:20.05 | Skittles | adapter? |
| 20:20.08 | Skittles | on my pc or my dads |
| 20:20.13 | Skittles | is that the thing that sends signals? |
| 20:20.16 | Jiiks | on yours |
| 20:20.20 | Skittles | ah |
| 20:20.26 | Skittles | how do I find that out? Xd |
| 20:20.30 | Jiiks | device manager |
| 20:20.33 | Shawn|Rawr | will not quit his day job |
| 20:20.37 | Stewox | what kind of a router you have ? |
| 20:20.51 | Shawn|Rawr | remembers he doesn't have a job |
| 20:20.54 | Dustin | He's got a Verizon Internet Router/Modem |
| 20:21.01 | Skittles | k |
| 20:21.11 | Stewox | whow... not even in US , idk |
| 20:21.13 | Dustin | He's got a USB Adapter for a wireless card to talk to the Router/Modem |
| 20:21.21 | Jiiks | control panel->device manager-> network adapters |
| 20:21.29 | Stewox | that's a basic router modem , ... that's bad option |
| 20:21.58 | Stewox | i heard that US ISPs really suck , is there some truth to this ? |
| 20:22.02 | Dustin | It's for the Cell Phone Data internet |
| 20:22.10 | Dustin | WEll they dont suck |
| 20:22.15 | Skittles | what am i looking for? |
| 20:22.16 | Dustin | But they arent as good as EU shit |
| 20:22.16 | Jiiks | well if you have usb wlan then whats the model of that? |
| 20:22.22 | C-H_ | they suck in some areas and are good in others |
| 20:22.22 | Stewox | hahaha :D |
| 20:22.22 | Skittles | adapter or was it something else? |
| 20:22.28 | Jiiks | network adapter |
| 20:22.29 | Skittles | Nvidia Networker Adapter? |
| 20:22.43 | Dustin | I've got a 55meg Down 10 meg up connection for 70 bucks a month |
| 20:22.52 | Stewox | LOL |
| 20:22.56 | Skittles | Nvidia nforce network controller |
| 20:22.57 | Stewox | FTTH ? |
| 20:23.07 | JManV_ | 55 meg down? |
| 20:23.09 | JManV_ | wow |
| 20:23.10 | Stewox | what kind of connection ? |
| 20:23.10 | JManV_ | i want |
| 20:23.13 | Dustin | Cable |
| 20:23.16 | Stewox | cable |
| 20:23.18 | Stewox | oh |
| 20:23.24 | Stewox | that's why you pay 70 |
| 20:23.26 | Jiiks | ok press win+r type cmd then type ipconfig and see what you get there |
| 20:23.44 | Skittles | on my pc? |
| 20:23.49 | Jiiks | yes |
| 20:23.58 | Skittles | k |
| 20:24.04 | JManV_ | anyone know how i can make a cliff jumped that can only jump down cliffs (not up)? |
| 20:24.11 | Stewox | it's 25 EUR here , 100/10 FTTH :) ... that's 32 dollars |
| 20:24.12 | nolliepoper | DERP |
| 20:24.12 | Jiiks | still doing that? :P |
| 20:24.24 | Dustin | Daaaaamn |
| 20:24.37 | Dustin | I knew like Sweden has 100/100 connections for cheap as fuck |
| 20:24.41 | Skittles | ethernet adapter |
| 20:24.46 | Dustin | I'm wiating on Google ISP |
| 20:24.54 | Dustin | I WANT THAT 1GIG Up/Down |
| 20:25.21 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes, I will love when Google tracks my every movement on the internet |
| 20:25.31 | Shawn|Rawr | And gives me ads no matter what im doing |
| 20:25.32 | Skittles | 0.0 |
| 20:25.36 | Shawn|Rawr | That's the life |
| 20:25.45 | Jiiks | that ethernet is your wired connection. So you'r computer is not recognising your wireless adatpter |
| 20:25.53 | Skittles | guess so |
| 20:25.55 | Jiiks | so find out the make/model and download drivers for it |
| 20:26.04 | Skittles | it's not a plug in |
| 20:26.07 | Skittles | it's in the pc |
| 20:26.15 | Stewox | and im even in a smaller country where's stuff not properly imported by the big companies , that's why hardware is costlier usually ... but ISPs are rocking out , ... however there are some ISPs you need to avoid here as well , like our national telecom really sucks |
| 20:26.17 | Skittles | something we bought and screwed in |
| 20:26.18 | Jiiks | you stil need drivers |
| 20:26.29 | Skittles | kay |
| 20:26.35 | Skittles | make/model how? xd |
| 20:26.47 | Jiiks | well it should be in your device manager |
| 20:26.56 | Skittles | under adapter? |
| 20:27.13 | JManV_ | this can't be a joke, but it seems like it is: |
| 20:27.15 | JManV_ | http://www.google.com/tisp/install.html |
| 20:27.16 | Jiiks | i have finnish os so im not 100% sure what it says |
| 20:27.48 | Skittles | ah |
| 20:27.52 | Jiiks | but in device manager it should be under network adapters |
| 20:27.53 | Shawn|Rawr | JManV, that was their april fools one year |
| 20:27.54 | Stewox | don't panic dustin , they usually turn €= $ for software/hardware prices |
| 20:28.15 | Stewox | we pay 30 $ more for everything here |
| 20:28.23 | JManV_ | oh ok |
| 20:28.28 | JManV_ | so it is a joke |
| 20:28.37 | Stewox | games , PC components .... sometimes 50 to 100 $ more |
| 20:28.51 | Skittles | should it have numbers? |
| 20:29.11 | Skittles | Under adapters all it said was: nvidia nforce newtorking controller |
| 20:29.23 | Shawn|Rawr | That's probably the ethernet one |
| 20:30.38 | Jiiks | yea |
| 20:30.43 | Skittles | mk |
| 20:30.50 | Skittles | that was under network adapter |
| 20:30.56 | nolliepoper | what is tisp |
| 20:31.00 | Jiiks | and nothing else? |
| 20:31.04 | nolliepoper | I read it |
| 20:31.06 | Skittles | nope nothing else |
| 20:31.23 | nolliepoper | is tisp a joke |
| 20:31.34 | Skittles | might as well be |
| 20:31.45 | Skittles | jokes make the world spin and all. |
| 20:31.54 | JManV_ | yes, it's a joke |
| 20:32.21 | JManV_ | i was also confused by the fact that was actually from google.com |
| 20:32.29 | JManV_ | but i guess it was an april fools' |
| 20:32.50 | JManV_ | there's so many things wrong with that |
| 20:33.02 | JManV_ | how are you supposed to use your toilet? |
| 20:33.09 | nolliepoper | and who is on the other end |
| 20:33.24 | JManV_ | poo. |
| 20:33.27 | JManV_ | just: poo |
| 20:33.43 | Skittles | I'm going to restart my computer and see if it does anything, since I haven't restarted since I restored |
| 20:34.24 | Obatztrara | need testerrrrrrs on EU (for an rpg) anyone? :) |
| 20:35.07 | Skittles | So anyway, I went to properties and I still can't find the series for it |
| 20:36.20 | Jiiks | i can test |
| 20:36.21 | Skittles | 0.0 |
| 20:36.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dekar- (~Dekar@p4FCEB69F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:36.32 | Skittles | >.> |
| 20:36.44 | Jiiks | what os are you using? |
| 20:36.56 | Skittles | vista 32 |
| 20:37.17 | JManV_ | ahah |
| 20:37.22 | Vail | i hope blizzard is doing something about the create something in a mod and have to restart the editor to get it to show in a map bug |
| 20:37.24 | Jiiks | that's one of your problems |
| 20:37.27 | JManV_ | behavior - jump |
| 20:37.43 | Vail | what about Behavior jump? |
| 20:38.00 | JManV_ | hmmm |
| 20:38.04 | JManV_ | still not sure if that helps me |
| 20:38.14 | Obatztrara | Hey Jiiks was afk for a second :) |
| 20:38.18 | JManV_ | i'm trying to make my unit jump down cliffs but not up |
| 20:38.30 | Obatztrara | im Obatztrara 110 ingame if you still wanna test |
| 20:38.31 | Vail | yeah Jump wont help there |
| 20:38.48 | Jiiks | yeah sure just wait a moment |
| 20:39.07 | JManV_ | there's a behavior - mover up and mover down |
| 20:39.15 | JManV_ | perhaps if i get rid of the mover up? |
| 20:39.18 | Vail | if you remove it |
| 20:39.22 | Vail | it chrashes |
| 20:39.27 | JManV_ | oh |
| 20:39.28 | Skittles | problems? |
| 20:39.29 | JManV_ | that's bad |
| 20:39.36 | Vail | yep |
| 20:40.08 | Vail | maybe an autocast version of that one jump ability |
| 20:40.14 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dashkal (~dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 20:40.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (~skizot@226-187.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 20:40.29 | JManV_ | the jump down is a missile mover |
| 20:40.43 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXtkrnnLjwo |
| 20:41.50 | Jiiks | Skittles any chance you still have the disc that came with the wlan adapter? |
| 20:43.17 | Skittles | idk, im sure my step mom can figure it out, but I hate to make her spend hours sometimes on this crap. Xd |
| 20:43.43 | Jiiks | it takes 36,543673757345688658939052 seconds if you find out the model :P |
| 20:43.57 | Skittles | Xd |
| 20:44.04 | Skittles | She just sucks at stuff is all |
| 20:44.09 | Skittles | not that it should take her that long |
| 20:44.12 | Jiiks | Obatztrara added you ingame |
| 20:44.14 | Skittles | but she gets it done at the end. XD |
| 20:44.47 | Skittles | anyway i should have a usb or a cd right? |
| 20:44.52 | Vail | JManV_ maybe this could help with some slight modifications http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/12722-data-trigger-free-leap/ |
| 20:44.55 | Skittles | what would the cd say on it you think? |
| 20:45.45 | Shawn|Rawr | Something about a wireless adapter |
| 20:45.52 | JManV_ | hmmm... that would require an ability |
| 20:45.52 | Skizot | SIXEN! |
| 20:45.59 | JManV_ | i need it to be part of the normal pathing |
| 20:45.59 | Skizot | WAKE DA FUCK UP. |
| 20:46.14 | Skizot | wait... i forgot the key words.. |
| 20:46.34 | Skizot | "why are you posting pictures of nubile young boys in thier underwear?" |
| 20:47.20 | wOlfLinG | So, a fallout-themed map, which is an open-end survival map! Y/N? |
| 20:47.45 | wOlfLinG | And by fallout themed, i mean post-apocalyptic, not set in the fallout world |
| 20:49.03 | Skittles | mm |
| 20:52.05 | JManV_ | so i think it's time to give up on the cliffs |
| 20:52.08 | JManV_ | which is a shame, really |
| 20:52.20 | Skizot | what cliffs? |
| 20:52.42 | JManV_ | i'm trying to reproduce the one-way cliffs in pokemon games |
| 20:53.07 | Skizot | okay? |
| 20:53.13 | Skizot | why can't you? |
| 20:53.27 | JManV_ | can't get it to work |
| 20:53.52 | JManV_ | i'm not using WASD, i need the pathing to understand the cliff jumping |
| 20:53.58 | JManV_ | so i can't really do it in triggers |
| 20:54.05 | Skizot | what part? |
| 20:54.21 | JManV_ | the jumping down but not up part |
| 20:54.36 | Skizot | uuhh... |
| 20:55.02 | JManV_ | if i'm missing something, please, enlighten me |
| 20:55.55 | Skizot | how does your cliff jumping work? |
| 20:56.12 | JManV_ | right now i have a scaler mover |
| 20:56.27 | JManV_ | and i can walk up and down the cliffs |
| 20:56.45 | Shawn|Rawr | Would it be plausible to create a region at the top of the cliff that gives them a behavior or something that allows them to cliff jump but takes it away when they leave the region? |
| 20:57.07 | JManV_ | i've considered that |
| 20:57.11 | Skizot | that's what i was thinking... |
| 20:57.15 | JManV_ | but pathing won't take that into account |
| 20:57.21 | Skizot | only enabling the ability on the top of the cliff |
| 20:57.30 | Dustin | Why dont you just do a check for cliff level at a certain point with offset? |
| 20:57.51 | JManV_ | and then? |
| 20:58.04 | Dustin | Then run your jump trigger or effect |
| 20:58.17 | Dustin | You could probably use Validators for it even |
| 20:58.30 | Dustin | cliff level at point < current cliff level |
| 20:58.51 | JManV_ | i just don't know how that would work |
| 20:58.59 | JManV_ | i can't get anything to tie it all together |
| 20:59.10 | Skittles | mm |
| 20:59.28 | Vail | i have a ugly idea for a solution |
| 21:00.01 | Skittles | jumping down but not up isn't hard |
| 21:00.02 | JManV_ | ugly might be better than ditching it altogether |
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| 21:00.16 | Skittles | but you said you were going to use a model |
| 21:00.18 | doite | Hey |
| 21:00.20 | Skittles | so i want no part in it. Xd |
| 21:00.26 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:00.28 | Vail | use a jump behavior and a paint some no pathing around the cliffs. the jump will have a range of for the up so if it cant get that close it wont jump up |
| 21:00.32 | JManV_ | i've gone with actual cliffs |
| 21:00.38 | doite | is there a way to make that the opposite direction |
| 21:00.39 | doite | :) |
| 21:00.53 | Skittles | oh you have? |
| 21:00.57 | Skittles | No problem at all then. |
| 21:01.03 | JManV_ | if i can get it to work i have |
| 21:01.09 | JManV_ | they do look way better |
| 21:01.17 | Skittles | probably be better if u used movers, like reaper jump down and not jump up tho |
| 21:01.21 | doite | JManV u still working on the jumping down cliffs problem? |
| 21:01.27 | JManV_ | yeah |
| 21:01.31 | Skittles | anyway |
| 21:01.32 | doite | Anoying |
| 21:01.35 | JManV_ | movers have very few options |
| 21:01.36 | Skittles | it's not hard to do it in triggers |
| 21:01.41 | JManV_ | and i've played with them all |
| 21:01.57 | JManV_ | i kinda like the no pathing thing tho |
| 21:02.04 | JManV_ | that might could work... |
| 21:02.07 | Skittles | create a point 1 in front of the unit, if the cliff level is different from where you are |
| 21:02.17 | Skittles | then make him jump down |
| 21:02.31 | Skittles | only real problem is that cliffs can mess units up rather badly |
| 21:02.36 | doite | But guys quick question, and maybe more directed to A1win , if hes here, but is it possible to make this the OPPOSITE direction? |
| 21:02.36 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:03.00 | JManV_ | triggers happen after the pathing has already been decided |
| 21:03.10 | Skittles | isn't yaw 1-360? |
| 21:03.11 | JManV_ | so the unit will use ramps |
| 21:03.23 | JManV_ | unless you specifically walk him to the edge |
| 21:03.26 | doite | Yaw = infront? |
| 21:03.30 | doite | yea |
| 21:03.37 | doite | exactly 1 of 360 degree |
| 21:03.41 | doite | or 0 |
| 21:03.42 | Skittles | kay |
| 21:03.46 | Skittles | 0 = 360 |
| 21:03.51 | doite | k 1 then |
| 21:04.07 | Skittles | current camera yaw of picked player - 180 |
| 21:04.09 | doite | or inbetween them, anyway infront of unit |
| 21:04.11 | Skittles | will give you the opposite |
| 21:04.20 | doite | is that.. possible? |
| 21:04.27 | Skittles | I would then so? |
| 21:04.34 | Skittles | arithmetic |
| 21:04.37 | Skittles | right? |
| 21:04.39 | doite | yea, its smart but how |
| 21:04.39 | Kieldro | How do I get timestamps in MIRC!!! |
| 21:04.41 | doite | aah a math |
| 21:04.52 | doite | ofc.. |
| 21:04.54 | doite | i se |
| 21:05.09 | doite | since face -> next line is a degree |
| 21:05.14 | doite | SKITTLES |
| 21:05.14 | doite | its just.. |
| 21:05.19 | doite | YOUR A GENIOUS |
| 21:05.23 | doite | or how ever its spelled |
| 21:05.59 | Shawn|Rawr | -O == GENIUS |
| 21:06.04 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXtkrnnLjwo :( no one here has commented so i will continue to post. |
| 21:06.19 | Skittles | ? |
| 21:06.22 | Dustin | Skizot! |
| 21:06.28 | Skittles | lol |
| 21:06.45 | JManV_ | dude it's hilarious with reaper jump on |
| 21:07.27 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.32 | doite | Thanks |
| 21:07.41 | Skizot | so he looks AT you? |
| 21:08.51 | JManV_ | hmmm... i actually got up but not down |
| 21:08.58 | Skittles | yeps |
| 21:08.59 | JManV_ | accidently |
| 21:09.11 | Skittles | lol |
| 21:09.18 | doite | skitzot |
| 21:09.19 | doite | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXtkrnnLjwo |
| 21:09.21 | doite | look again |
| 21:10.06 | Skizot | what about it? |
| 21:10.26 | doite | I commented! |
| 21:10.48 | Skizot | S-K-I-Z-O-T |
| 21:10.53 | doite | =) |
| 21:10.54 | Skizot | only one T :P |
| 21:10.58 | doite | haha |
| 21:11.00 | doite | fun though |
| 21:11.29 | Skizot | that's just showing off the neat shit i put in... |
| 21:11.37 | Skizot | very little actual gameplay. |
| 21:11.48 | doite | But mate |
| 21:11.52 | doite | Not to be negative |
| 21:11.54 | Skittles | Xd |
| 21:12.04 | doite | But the projectiles come from behind him |
| 21:12.06 | doite | When running |
| 21:12.19 | Skizot | not much i can do about that :/ |
| 21:12.22 | Skizot | have tried. |
| 21:12.41 | doite | Well nothing anyone on battlenet would even notice |
| 21:12.42 | Skizot | and it's because he's slightly leaning forward in the animation. |
| 21:13.00 | Dustin | Can't you create it at on offset instead of center |
| 21:13.11 | doite | Cant u do a if then else |
| 21:13.15 | Skizot | yeah that's more issues than i care to deal with. |
| 21:13.17 | doite | If running of.. yea like dustin |
| 21:13.22 | doite | True |
| 21:13.29 | doite | Just wanted to point it out=) |
| 21:13.29 | Skizot | the offset is VERY fucking picky |
| 21:13.32 | doite | Nice work man |
| 21:13.38 | Dustin | Yeah I've notice that crap |
| 21:13.41 | Skizot | it technically comes from his chest when standing still. |
| 21:13.51 | Skizot | big head mode is broken to fuck. |
| 21:14.23 | doite | Now ill try my 360 degree - 180 degree camera yaw=) |
| 21:14.27 | doite | brb |
| 21:14.45 | Skizot | the head model only follows the attachment point when the model is MOVING. |
| 21:14.45 | Skizot | so if you lay down the head stays floating |
| 21:14.49 | Ashamed | i want to go home |
| 21:16.16 | Skittles | lol |
| 21:16.22 | Skittles | anyway |
| 21:16.43 | Skittles | I gotta fix this internet thing some how Xd |
| 21:19.33 | Shawn|Rawr | "Is the machine plugged in?" |
| 21:19.40 | Shawn|Rawr | "I think so, how do I check?" |
| 21:21.54 | Kieldro | herro |
| 21:22.05 | JManV_ | the answer is: if you don't know, don't bother |
| 21:22.30 | Shawn|Rawr | Skittles, assuming the wireless card is in the computer correctly, is there any way you can do an ethernet cord from the internet to your computer? |
| 21:22.39 | Shawn|Rawr | It would be much easier |
| 21:22.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Otherwise, you have to find the drivers yourself |
| 21:24.05 | JManV_ | hmmm, if i reduce the jump range from 12 to 2, he jumps up but not down... not sure why |
| 21:24.27 | doite | Create... it crashed |
| 21:24.31 | doite | #(%"#%&)")#€%" |
| 21:24.36 | doite | Greate* |
| 21:24.39 | doite | Great!!!!!!!!* |
| 21:24.53 | Shawn|Rawr | Neato |
| 21:25.39 | Skittles | 0.0 |
| 21:25.44 | Skittles | I would think not |
| 21:26.17 | Skittles | try doing 6 jmanv |
| 21:28.06 | Skittles | guess ill get my step mom to do it |
| 21:28.08 | Skittles | =( |
| 21:28.17 | JManV_ | at 6 he jumps up and down |
| 21:28.33 | Skittles | lol |
| 21:28.36 | Skittles | try 10 |
| 21:28.39 | Skittles | try 20] |
| 21:29.14 | JManV_ | holly crap |
| 21:29.28 | JManV_ | i set land adjustment up to 20 |
| 21:29.34 | JManV_ | he jumped really far |
| 21:29.37 | Skittles | lol |
| 21:29.49 | JManV_ | i was hoping that would push it past the range |
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| 21:30.59 | JManV_ | it is, however, really funny |
| 21:32.01 | JManV_ | hmm... i got it jumping down but not up |
| 21:32.08 | JManV_ | but the pathing things he can still walk up |
| 21:32.23 | JManV_ | so he walks up to the wall and stops |
| 21:32.28 | Skizot | what pathing things? |
| 21:33.03 | Vail | how did you get it jumping down and not up? |
| 21:33.22 | JManV_ | messing around with setting on the jump behavior |
| 21:33.53 | JManV_ | he still jumps up in some weird circumstances |
| 21:34.24 | Shawn|Rawr | thats what beta testing is for |
| 21:35.32 | JManV_ | its hilarious right now tho, because i'm using reaper jump on a unit that doesn't have a jetpack |
| 21:36.33 | Skizot | give it a jump animation. |
| 21:36.38 | Skizot | not hard |
| 21:36.57 | JManV_ | yeah |
| 21:37.02 | JManV_ | but i'm just testing now |
| 21:37.28 | JManV_ | enjoying the humor value of a civilian with smoke coming out of his feet :P |
| 21:38.07 | Shawn|Rawr | this is shawn|rawr's girlfriend...what does the V stand for in ur name mister? |
| 21:38.19 | JManV_ | apparently hight delta minimum/maximum don't do anything |
| 21:38.25 | Dustin | Lol |
| 21:38.29 | Dustin | His GF, good one :P |
| 21:38.34 | JManV_ | heh |
| 21:38.49 | JManV_ | girls don't go on the internet |
| 21:38.58 | Shawn|Rawr | i fly airplanes bitch |
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| 21:39.28 | JManV_ | the V is my last name initial |
| 21:40.18 | Shawn|Rawr | huh...mmk. im leaving now. |
| 21:40.42 | JManV_ | it's actually cuz of the stupid blizzard renamer |
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| 21:40.55 | JManV_ | i thought i could rename myself to something else, but it wouldn't let me |
| 21:41.04 | JManV_ | and it wouldn't *not* let me rename myself |
| 21:41.11 | JManV_ | (previous username was JMan) |
| 21:41.21 | JManV_ | all i could think of was JManV |
| 21:41.29 | JManV_ | so i use the same username in irc |
| 21:42.02 | Shawn|Rawr | lame sauce |
| 21:42.07 | JManV_ | so stupid i couldn't cancel the rename |
| 21:42.22 | Shawn|Rawr | i feel you bro...i feel you\ |
| 21:42.25 | JManV_ | or at least waste it by renaming to the same name |
| 21:42.33 | JManV_ | but it wouldn't let me do either |
| 21:43.57 | JManV_ | i think i'm going to have to give up again |
| 21:44.06 | JManV_ | it seems like it should be possible |
| 21:45.01 | Skittles | mmmm |
| 21:46.02 | JManV_ | yup, removing the mover up does indeed crash the game |
| 21:46.11 | Shawn|Rawr | Neat |
| 21:46.15 | Shawn|Rawr | I'll remove movers all day |
| 21:46.28 | Skittles | lol, was thinking the same thing dustin |
| 21:46.29 | Shawn|Rawr | My gf is no longer typing btw ;) |
| 21:46.49 | Dustin | hehe |
| 21:46.50 | JManV_ | nor does she exist? :P |
| 21:46.52 | Skittles | more lies |
| 21:47.06 | Skittles | Our boy is all grown up =*) |
| 21:47.33 | doite | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/turret-demo/ |
| 21:47.43 | doite | Is the projectile that comes from tank hard to make? |
| 21:47.47 | Shawn|Rawr | http://www.facebook.com/shawn91210x#!/ |
| 21:47.50 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 21:47.53 | doite | If you check the actual video |
| 21:50.05 | Skittles | yeah |
| 21:50.11 | Skittles | the second one was anyway |
| 21:50.35 | Skittles | well kinda |
| 21:50.39 | Skittles | you would need to know math |
| 21:53.57 | JManV_ | well, i can make the unit stop moving altogether |
| 21:53.59 | JManV_ | that's good to know |
| 21:54.38 | JManV_ | why is it so hard to make him jump down and not up!?!?! |
| 21:54.46 | Xapti | man that's prettycool skittles |
| 21:55.25 | Xapti | how does the siege shot target units? |
| 21:55.37 | Dustin | JManV_, Isn't there options in Reaper jump ability to specify which way he goes |
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| 21:55.47 | doite | Has to be |
| 21:56.07 | doite | Another alternativ way (if you really want to simplfy it |
| 21:56.08 | JManV_ | it doesn't appear that they can be disconnected from on another |
| 21:56.17 | doite | Is to make regions on each brink |
| 21:56.43 | doite | Then when he walks in you give him upgrade (1) from reaper, then when leaving u give him repear upgrade (0) |
| 21:56.58 | JManV_ | that won't work tho |
| 21:57.04 | doite | It would |
| 21:57.10 | JManV_ | because it won't choose his path based on that information |
| 21:57.25 | Dustin | How does the current ability check for cliff height |
| 21:57.38 | JManV_ | so if he has the ability at the time, and you choose a long path, he could try to go up a cliff he actually can't... and vice versa |
| 21:57.41 | Dustin | Im gonna boot up the editor one sec |
| 21:57.46 | Xapti | yeha I disliked that from my jump ability. Have to tell himto re-path onec jump started |
| 21:57.57 | ducky | hello mapster! :D Can anyone tell me if I should create variables to mirror each of parameters in function? It's just that I've read somewhere that it would be a good idea to save each parameter in variable and use variables in function instead.. |
| 21:58.01 | doite | Oh.. sorry maybe i didnt read the hole thread |
| 21:58.08 | Dustin | ducky, no |
| 21:58.08 | doite | I just thought he wanted to make it jump down |
| 21:58.10 | doite | Nt up |
| 21:58.14 | ducky | thank god |
| 21:58.15 | Dustin | Just Use Parameters in your code |
| 21:58.30 | Dustin | Depends on what you're doing with them really |
| 21:58.38 | Dustin | but 95% of the time it's fine |
| 21:58.42 | doite | What about this |
| 21:58.59 | ducky | thanks Dustin, well i'm mostly passing integers... ~ 20 of them |
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| 21:59.15 | JManV_ | to one function? |
| 21:59.22 | doite | Region (again) that saves the current hight, then u make it custom in data editor that only allows u to decrese in hight from current hight |
| 21:59.40 | ducky | yea, it's a complex function :D |
| 22:00.02 | JManV_ | i don't understand doite |
| 22:00.13 | Dustin | Ya man, no need to clutter up code |
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| 22:00.29 | doite | Even better (without region) to checks if unit uses ability (repear jump off) then when land saves current hight |
| 22:00.32 | doite | Well |
| 22:00.43 | doite | Every levels in hight is a ... level of hight |
| 22:00.45 | doite | as u know |
| 22:00.55 | JManV_ | a single path could involve multiple height changes |
| 22:01.04 | ducky | also, if I pass point to function it'll be a pointer, right? |
| 22:01.29 | JManV_ | parameters are passed as values |
| 22:01.31 | doite | Well put a offset then jmanv |
| 22:01.32 | Dustin | What do you mean a pointer? |
| 22:01.39 | doite | Between current and +-1 hight |
| 22:01.46 | doite | How much could it involve |
| 22:02.03 | doite | why dont i spelled height right.. |
| 22:02.14 | JManV_ | hmmm |
| 22:02.32 | doite | That way it would never be albe to jump up something |
| 22:02.38 | doite | that would INCREASE in hight |
| 22:02.41 | doite | it could walk up |
| 22:02.48 | doite | But not use ability to jump up |
| 22:02.58 | doite | Allwas decrease though |
| 22:02.59 | JManV_ | if i stop a jump, i need to repath it |
| 22:03.00 | ducky | i mean that if i'll pass Point 1(coordinates X1,Y1) to function, and in func will change points coords to X2,Y2, then after function will end Point1 coordinates will be X2Y2? |
| 22:03.06 | doite | Yes |
| 22:03.09 | JManV_ | he can't just stop moving |
| 22:03.19 | doite | you check if unit uses ability "Jump" |
| 22:03.31 | doite | then wait 1 sec (so he lands) and saves height level |
| 22:03.31 | JManV_ | it's a behavior |
| 22:03.38 | JManV_ | there's no ability |
| 22:03.44 | Dustin | Well ducky |
| 22:03.49 | doite | Well.. checks if u use behavior then |
| 22:03.54 | Dustin | It returns whatever you want it to return |
| 22:04.04 | ducky | i don't return points |
| 22:04.06 | doite | U use behavior.. wait 2 seconds game time.. save location |
| 22:04.25 | JManV_ | ducky: it won't change the values outside of the function |
| 22:04.31 | JManV_ | pointers don't exist |
| 22:04.37 | JManV_ | everything is passed as a value |
| 22:04.40 | JManV_ | not reference |
| 22:04.45 | doite | The hard part would be if u walk up a hill.. then jump.. becouse the height level would differ then |
| 22:05.11 | doite | I dont know, just a suggestion |
| 22:05.11 | ducky | tyvm |
| 22:05.11 | ducky | ok |
| 22:05.12 | doite | Actually no |
| 22:05.18 | doite | Becouse u would still decrease |
| 22:05.24 | Skizot | http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/713/64350930.jpg |
| 22:05.33 | Dustin | Ya unless you're changing Global Variables all function variables/paramteres are local |
| 22:05.39 | doite | Aslong as u dont walk up a hill and jump down a cliff thats further up then the saved hight |
| 22:05.53 | doite | So actually the idea works |
| 22:05.55 | doite | Peace of cake |
| 22:06.39 | JManV_ | i'm not following |
| 22:07.08 | ducky | ok thanks, my thinking got messed up because of my failures when passing unit groups as parameters, but i now realize my mistake. I'll use global variables then :D |
| 22:07.09 | JManV_ | first: i still don't know when the ability fires, because its not an ability |
| 22:07.18 | JManV_ | you can't check if a behavior is used |
| 22:07.28 | JManV_ | just if it's present |
| 22:07.42 | doite | Skitzot, thats why europeans call americans stupid =) |
| 22:07.44 | Dustin | You can set a variable from a function |
| 22:08.18 | doite | Ok |
| 22:08.20 | doite | Hmm |
| 22:08.25 | Dustin | If you'd do something like X = Function("Location","x") |
| 22:08.28 | JManV_ | yes, ducky, have the function return a variable |
| 22:08.30 | doite | JmanV |
| 22:08.34 | Kieldro | Jman, aren't you sleepy? |
| 22:08.43 | JManV_ | i'm dead tired |
| 22:08.48 | doite | But what if u modify the behaviour so it also makes a invisable buff |
| 22:08.51 | JManV_ | work is almost over tho |
| 22:08.52 | Kieldro | you need a nap |
| 22:08.58 | doite | When u recieve the buff u get the answor |
| 22:09.00 | ducky | JamnV_ is there any way to make function return 4 points? |
| 22:09.14 | Dustin | You cant return more then one variable |
| 22:09.18 | JManV_ | ducky: no |
| 22:09.35 | JManV_ | you can't return arrays :( |
| 22:09.37 | JManV_ | i wish |
| 22:09.48 | Dustin | Yeah I want some fucking pointers |
| 22:09.53 | JManV_ | me too |
| 22:10.11 | Dustin | Apaprently they had them in on some of the first beta days |
| 22:10.15 | JManV_ | i need more modularity to my array code |
| 22:10.18 | Dustin | But took them out for security purposes |
| 22:10.29 | doite | Well since i suck at data editor i need to figure out how to make a projectile that going like the tank (in siege mode) in this video http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/turret-demo/ |
| 22:11.24 | JManV_ | i'm not sure i can apply a buff or anything when the jump happens |
| 22:11.46 | doite | K JManV then i dont know |
| 22:11.54 | JManV_ | i know |
| 22:11.59 | JManV_ | it should be so easy |
| 22:12.03 | JManV_ | but it's just... not |
| 22:12.09 | doite | I had problems with making my unit jump over sandbags and nothing else |
| 22:12.11 | Xapti | isn't there a modification/upgrade to the editor that supports stuff like pointers? |
| 22:12.14 | Xapti | Andromed |
| 22:12.17 | doite | I made it a path -> Builder=) |
| 22:12.18 | JManV_ | because the system seems to just assume you want to jump both ways |
| 22:13.18 | JManV_ | what does that do? i tried it... it did nothing |
| 22:13.43 | doite | Builder? |
| 22:14.01 | JManV_ | yeah |
| 22:14.08 | doite | Just runs though building that you own (or units) as scv do when building something |
| 22:14.16 | JManV_ | ah |
| 22:14.46 | doite | I tried to make it a digger first (to go under it) but didnt work for some reason |
| 22:14.58 | doite | Well hmm let me think about it for a sec |
| 22:15.19 | JManV_ | yeah, i still can't find a way to tell you're actually jumping |
| 22:15.30 | doite | No i got that |
| 22:16.03 | doite | But still.. you would be able (since its a behaviour) to trigger it instead of giving it to him as defealt |
| 22:16.14 | doite | Mening u can remove it and give it at any time |
| 22:16.27 | JManV_ | that i can |
| 22:16.44 | JManV_ | but if the path is long, it will make bad decisions |
| 22:16.59 | JManV_ | based on what the state of the behavior is at the current moment |
| 22:17.08 | JManV_ | may not apply further down the path |
| 22:17.09 | doite | Since theres no actual way to define hight levels (stupid of blizzard) (I know since i tried this for my resident evil map to escape) you will have to give it at a certain point and remove it at another |
| 22:17.27 | doite | Give it obviously at jumping position and removing it at landing |
| 22:17.40 | doite | Therefor im affraid regions is your chance |
| 22:17.47 | JManV_ | yeah, regions would work |
| 22:17.52 | doite | Why? |
| 22:17.56 | JManV_ | but that solution would not :( |
| 22:18.04 | doite | wh |
| 22:18.05 | doite | whu |
| 22:18.08 | doite | ! |
| 22:18.08 | doite | why |
| 22:18.16 | JManV_ | say you don't have the behavior right now |
| 22:18.22 | doite | m |
| 22:18.26 | JManV_ | and you choose to go somewhere reasonably far away |
| 22:18.36 | JManV_ | it will choose the entire path based on not having the behavior |
| 22:18.45 | JManV_ | likewise if you did have the behavior |
| 22:18.58 | JManV_ | it might choose to jump up cliffs you actually can't |
| 22:19.00 | JManV_ | and just stop |
| 22:19.07 | doite | But what does the behavi..... ooooooh |
| 22:19.12 | doite | ooh |
| 22:19.13 | doite | ofc |
| 22:19.16 | doite | didnt think of that |
| 22:19.21 | doite | "smart pathing" u mean |
| 22:19.22 | doite | Ofc |
| 22:19.53 | JManV_ | unless i repathed every time |
| 22:19.54 | doite | Well u could give it at all times, then remove it at all ends of cliffs |
| 22:20.23 | doite | So whn land (u land in region -> remove, then walk 1 meter away and give it back |
| 22:20.37 | JManV_ | that's actually the worst case scenario |
| 22:20.43 | doite | Jupp |
| 22:20.49 | JManV_ | if it's usually off, at least he will try to use ramps |
| 22:21.01 | JManV_ | if it's usually on, he will try to walk up cliffs he can't, and stop |
| 22:21.22 | doite | Mmm.. Its a picker or what ever americans say=) |
| 22:21.53 | JManV_ | pickle? |
| 22:22.00 | doite | Yea thats what i said! |
| 22:22.01 | doite | =) |
| 22:22.13 | JManV_ | absolutely :) |
| 22:22.21 | doite | obviously.. hmm so.. |
| 22:22.38 | JManV_ | hmmm.... maybe i'll post it and see if anyone can help |
| 22:22.45 | doite | Has to be someone on web that has had this issue before |
| 22:22.47 | JManV_ | for now i can go on without it |
| 22:23.09 | JManV_ | i can still go up and down ramps, the cliffs are just short cuts |
| 22:24.05 | Skittles | mmhmm |
| 22:24.05 | JManV_ | eventually, though, i'd like to have items which are only accessable by jumping down cliffs |
| 22:24.50 | JManV_ | but for now... i've wasted too much time on this |
| 22:25.38 | Skittles | no such thing as time |
| 22:25.48 | Skittles | OH wait, you're just a mortal. ahahaaha |
| 22:26.24 | JManV_ | today at least |
| 22:28.20 | Jiiks | is your wlan working already? :P |
| 22:28.48 | doite | JamnV... there is a really REALLY anoying way you could do this |
| 22:29.03 | doite | JManV* |
| 22:29.13 | doite | You could actually build things =) |
| 22:29.20 | doite | Invisable walls |
| 22:30.01 | JManV_ | invisible walls? |
| 22:30.29 | Jiiks | ex invisible supply depots that you remove when the player is on the other side |
| 22:30.33 | doite | What i mean is that u mark the regions where you have cliff endings (where they would land) And as soon as they land u build around the hole landing (all the way) of the cliff |
| 22:30.48 | doite | with a wall of invisable... whatever (ignore placement) |
| 22:31.08 | JManV_ | hehe |
| 22:31.25 | C-H_ | create path blockers? |
| 22:31.26 | JManV_ | doesn't really support more than one player |
| 22:31.44 | doite | It dies |
| 22:31.45 | doite | does |
| 22:31.53 | doite | Thats were builder pathing comes in |
| 22:31.54 | doite | =) |
| 22:32.20 | JManV_ | heh |
| 22:32.22 | JManV_ | hmm |
| 22:32.23 | doite | And u filter so they cant go though their OWN buildings |
| 22:32.32 | doite | and if the unit chooses to go up the ramp again |
| 22:32.52 | doite | U have a trigger at each ramp (at the top) where it destroys all buildings |
| 22:32.56 | doite | GOD im smart |
| 22:33.06 | doite | And they wont get stuck inside buildings |
| 22:33.21 | doite | Becouse if u build something on a unit they can still move to get outside |
| 22:33.41 | doite | Wouldnt lag due to its invisablilty and UNSELECTABILITY |
| 22:33.56 | JManV_ | a pathing blocker at the bottom of the ramp blocks movement in both directions |
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| 22:34.15 | doite | dont do regions at the ramp then |
| 22:34.16 | doite | =) |
| 22:34.21 | JManV_ | not ramp |
| 22:34.23 | JManV_ | cliff |
| 22:34.24 | JManV_ | sorry |
| 22:34.49 | doite | What do u mean |
| 22:34.51 | doite | Nono |
| 22:34.53 | doite | Ok |
| 22:34.58 | JManV_ | so hmm |
| 22:35.05 | doite | Say your at height level 2 |
| 22:35.14 | doite | (say this is your heighest level |
| 22:35.16 | JManV_ | only the blockers at a lower leve would go away |
| 22:35.28 | Stewox | sixen here ? |
| 22:35.38 | doite | I dont understand Jmanv |
| 22:35.45 | JManV_ | is that what you're saying? |
| 22:35.48 | JManV_ | obviously not |
| 22:35.50 | doite | No |
| 22:35.51 | doite | =) |
| 22:35.52 | doite | Ok |
| 22:35.57 | doite | Say we have 2 levels |
| 22:36.07 | doite | Level 2 and level 1 (2 is higher then 1 |
| 22:36.27 | doite | To get from 2 -> 1 you can either jump or walk down / upp (if at level 1) a ramp |
| 22:36.39 | Skittles | how big is sc2? |
| 22:36.42 | doite | Beneath edges of cliff is NOTHING at the moment |
| 22:36.43 | Skittles | filesize |
| 22:36.49 | doite | Now you choose to jump |
| 22:36.59 | Jiiks | hmm does the player have vision of the full map? |
| 22:37.03 | Skittles | more then 4 gb right? |
| 22:37.16 | doite | When landing u land on one of the regions (maybe regions sourounding the hole edge part of cliffs (landing wise) |
| 22:37.56 | doite | Directly (unit enters region) supplydepots appear at ALL regions (still sourounding the cliff) so unit is forced out |
| 22:38.02 | doite | Now u cant walk up the cliff again |
| 22:38.43 | doite | Now if he goes to the ramp and walks UP... there a region at top of ramp that (unit enters region) -> pick all units (supply depots) -> destroy |
| 22:38.47 | doite | He can jump again |
| 22:38.53 | doite | If player 2 does same thing |
| 22:39.06 | Dustin | Well Im outa here guys, take it easy! |
| 22:39.09 | doite | He has builder mover -> filter -> not his own buildings |
| 22:39.24 | doite | That way all units can do this , but not jump up |
| 22:39.32 | doite | ONLY one issue with it |
| 22:39.36 | JManV_ | can you do that filter? |
| 22:39.41 | doite | Ofc |
| 22:39.53 | JManV_ | not on a mover... not that i can see |
| 22:39.53 | doite | All pathing movers have criterias |
| 22:40.13 | doite | I dont know how to alter (since i suck at data editor) but it would be unlogic if they didnt |
| 22:40.36 | JManV_ | well, they're not short on illogical things |
| 22:40.45 | JManV_ | and i don't see the option |
| 22:40.51 | JManV_ | there's actually not that much to movers |
| 22:41.25 | doite | Well it has to be some kind of fix since the filter as it is now is walk though your OWN building but not others |
| 22:41.26 | JManV_ | at any matter, time for me to leave work |
| 22:41.35 | doite | Has to be a way to do it the opposite way |
| 22:41.41 | JManV_ | i appreciate your ideas... i will ponder further |
| 22:41.51 | doite | k=) |
| 22:41.52 | JManV_ | i think the building mover is hard coded to your own units |
| 22:42.12 | doite | May be true |
| 22:42.35 | JManV_ | thanks man |
| 22:42.38 | JManV_ | see ya later |
| 22:42.50 | doite | Alternativly, u dont even need a mover -> alter the supply depots |
| 22:44.11 | doite | How the fuck to make a projectile fly from a unit -> up in a ... halfcircle up, then down on the unit (like when a siege tank would shoot) |
| 22:44.49 | doite | I could just make it so it shoots then booms on target after 2 seconds.. but would be cool if i made it show that it flew up in air then down on unit |
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| 23:00.25 | Xapti | doite I don't completely understand |
| 23:00.42 | Xapti | you mean like quarter circle, then straight down? |
| 23:00.52 | doite | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-5pDEO4cHQ&feature=player_embedded |
| 23:00.57 | doite | Like the tanks in video |
| 23:01.05 | doite | when in siege mode |
| 23:01.06 | Xapti | that's just normal parabolic shot |
| 23:01.49 | Xapti | you played with movers at all? |
| 23:03.18 | Xapti | I set my mover to ballistic driver, 10 maximum sped, 10 minimum speed |
| 23:03.32 | doite | No |
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| 23:03.46 | doite | I know trigger editor, i have dataeditor |
| 23:03.49 | doite | So i have alot to learn |
| 23:04.13 | doite | Actually i have everything to learn.. i DO know how to change and alter units + make dummy effects=) |
| 23:04.48 | Xapti | ok well find the unit of the projectile you are using |
| 23:05.33 | Xapti | and find it's mover (by either openeing up a mover tab and looking for it, or by selecting the current mover in the field and clicking "view") |
| 23:09.05 | Xapti | Under the field "Motion phases" changing attributes "driver" to "ballistic" and "max/min speed" to 10 should be all you'd need to do |
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| 23:12.09 | doite | well |
| 23:12.24 | doite | Its the actuall siege tank projectile i guess |
| 23:12.33 | doite | and i dont think they even have a projectile |
| 23:12.41 | doite | The just have a "boom" at position |
| 23:12.57 | doite | But ill do this but change it to a marauders missle |
| 23:13.07 | Xapti | siege tank doesn't have a projectile |
| 23:13.24 | Xapti | yea |
| 23:13.36 | Xapti | you know how to do that OK? |
| 23:14.16 | Xapti | give the siege tank's weapon the createpersistant attack effect for marauder |
| 23:14.44 | Xapti | (there's a few marauder attack effects, and I'm pretty sure you want the createpersistant one) |
| 23:20.23 | doite | Well |
| 23:20.27 | doite | The problem with all this |
| 23:20.34 | doite | Is that its a third person shooter xapti |
| 23:20.51 | doite | So i will trigger the actuall damage AND projectile from triggers |
| 23:21.02 | doite | "crete effect from unit" |
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| 23:23.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tordy (6274591f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.116.89.31) |
| 23:23.09 | Tordy | is blizzard releasing dota with 1.2? |
| 23:23.15 | Tordy | or is it just the other 3 |
| 23:23.20 | doite | Well i am atleast |
| 23:23.22 | Xapti | I don't think that's a problem doite |
| 23:23.39 | Xapti | I don't think they specified Tordy, but then again i'm not sure |
| 23:23.53 | Tordy | first week of january |
| 23:23.58 | Tordy | yikes that's comin close |
| 23:24.02 | Tordy | gotta get back tow rok! |
| 23:24.21 | Tordy | i need to figure out how to import models that have bounding boxes |
| 23:24.24 | Tordy | argh! |
| 23:24.25 | Tordy | :) |
| 23:24.28 | Xapti | Doite, the effect your will create will be the marauder's createpersistant |
| 23:25.46 | Xapti | oh i got mixed up |
| 23:25.53 | Xapti | I mean launch missile not createpersistant |
| 23:25.54 | doite | ? |
| 23:25.59 | doite | Yea |
| 23:26.12 | doite | So i instead ignore the hole siege tank think |
| 23:26.13 | Xapti | don't think marauder has createpersistant. Createpersistant is for multiple attacks |
| 23:26.27 | doite | And change mover on -> marauder missle launch |
| 23:26.35 | doite | ? |
| 23:26.56 | Xapti | well you can clone the marauder missile launch if you plan on using marauders |
| 23:27.14 | doite | Duplicating never works for me |
| 23:27.20 | doite | Get alot of missing links and crap |
| 23:27.37 | Xapti | but you want to either add or replace the siege tank's shock cannon weapon effect |
| 23:27.45 | Xapti | to the marauder launch missile |
| 23:28.08 | Stewox | so anyone want to check this out , some of you remember me so skip it as you probably don't know anyways but it's better explanation yet http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/15317-tutorial-creating-a-sc2-mod-file-for-custom-data-edits/?page=2 |
| 23:28.26 | Xapti | I guess addnig would look nicer, since the siege tank wouldstill have that muzzle flash, but it would be more work (not completely sure how to do it but I think I know) |
| 23:28.59 | doite | Argt! |
| 23:29.05 | doite | Im to bad at this |
| 23:29.30 | doite | Ok..... so step one.. 1 duplicate missle launch |
| 23:29.58 | doite | Step 2. Change the boom launch effect to tank |
| 23:30.16 | doite | Step 3. Change the mover to.. whatever u said( ill check in log) |
| 23:30.26 | doite | Step4. .... Change impact |
| 23:30.32 | doite | Step 5. AOE damage |
| 23:30.37 | doite | Step 6 ... ? |
| 23:30.47 | doite | Duration i guess til impact |
| 23:31.12 | doite | Step 7. Target impact (Has to be target unit AND point) |
| 23:31.25 | doite | Sounds about correct? |
| 23:31.53 | Xapti | ok siege tanks shock cannon weapon has 3 effects on it |
| 23:32.14 | doite | So it has to be a set .. effect thing? |
| 23:32.17 | Stewox | already looked siege canno shock , it's quite complex |
| 23:32.19 | Xapti | so we need to figure out which one creates the muzzle flash and leave it there and get rid of the other two I think |
| 23:32.37 | Xapti | ohhh nvm |
| 23:32.46 | Xapti | I think muzzle flash is separate not in actors |
| 23:32.50 | Xapti | i mean not in effects |
| 23:32.52 | Stewox | 1 for main center target , 1 for splash , 1 for friendly fire |
| 23:32.56 | Xapti | called from actor event |
| 23:33.07 | Xapti | yeah you're right |
| 23:33.30 | Stewox | does the splash affect center target as a bonus ? |
| 23:33.47 | Stewox | that's a bool setting i think |
| 23:33.54 | Xapti | what? |
| 23:34.07 | Stewox | well nothing ... nothing important nvm |
| 23:34.44 | doite | You've lost me |
| 23:34.51 | Xapti | so doite, we want to get rid of all 3 shock cannon effects, but move them to the final effects of the marauder missile |
| 23:34.56 | doite | What is the first think i should do? |
| 23:35.05 | Xapti | (assuming you still want seige tank splash) |
| 23:35.12 | doite | yes |
| 23:35.18 | Stewox | anyways , the splash damage has a parameter if you want to affect the center target too , if the center target has another effect on it ... |
| 23:35.33 | Stewox | normally it's "no" |
| 23:36.12 | Xapti | stewox, the 3rd siege tank effect is the campaign reduced allieed splash effect rigt? |
| 23:36.28 | Xapti | Maelstrom rounds. So that's not needed really |
| 23:37.05 | Stewox | that must be somewhere else , because there must be a normal friendly fire and the high one |
| 23:37.34 | Stewox | i guess that's just a tweak in the campaign files presumably ... |
| 23:37.56 | Stewox | if your using campaing too ? |
| 23:38.06 | doite | using all |
| 23:38.32 | Xapti | so doite the first step is to just switch siege tank weapon effect to "launch missile" |
| 23:39.38 | doite | Well xapti, cant i just Environment - Execute Marauder - Punisher Grenades (Launch Missile) at TargetPoint[(Triggering player)] from PlayerUnit[(Triggering player)] |
| 23:39.52 | Xapti | then the second step is to change that launch missile effect from marauders punisher grenades set to the siege tank's shock cannon set |
| 23:39.56 | doite | Go directly to launch missle? |
| 23:40.10 | Xapti | oh yeah you'll be skipping the fisrt stim |
| 23:40.12 | Xapti | *step |
| 23:40.17 | Xapti | cause of triggers |
| 23:40.26 | doite | ok |
| 23:40.33 | doite | step 2..... ehm... what? |
| 23:40.51 | Xapti | go to the effect "punisher grenades (launch missile) |
| 23:41.03 | Xapti | and change it's "impact effect" |
| 23:41.37 | Xapti | frto crucioshockcannon (set) |
| 23:41.46 | Xapti | *to |
| 23:42.53 | doite | FieldMarauder - Punisher Grenades (Launch Missile) Effect - Impact EffectCrucioShockCannonSet (Unnamed) |
| 23:42.54 | doite | k |
| 23:42.57 | Xapti | lastly, you will want to change the mover of the Punisher Grenades (launch missile) unit |
| 23:43.36 | Xapti | so find the unit PunisherGrenadesWeapon |
| 23:44.06 | Xapti | (you can get to it from the effect's field "ammo unit", or via the units tab) |
| 23:44.47 | doite | FieldWeapon - Punisher Grenades Movement - MoverPunisherGrenadesWeapon (Unnamed) |
| 23:44.51 | doite | change to? |
| 23:44.56 | Xapti | view the mover |
| 23:45.18 | doite | k |
| 23:45.18 | Xapti | and then when under the mover go to "motion phases' |
| 23:45.31 | doite | k |
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| 23:46.22 | Xapti | ok now change driver to ballistic, max and min speed to 10, and gravity to 12 (not sure if that part is necessary) |
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| 23:47.05 | lunarDoom435 | hi |
| 23:47.20 | Agouti | with actor events, if it just says Create, that means that the actor the event is on will be created, yeah? |
| 23:47.37 | doite | k |
| 23:47.38 | doite | done |
| 23:47.54 | doite | acceleration and stuff should still be 3200? |
| 23:48.27 | Xapti | yeah |
| 23:48.38 | Tordy | any 3d modelers here |
| 23:48.42 | Xapti | well now it's the time to cross fingers and hope it works |
| 23:48.48 | doite | oh! |
| 23:48.53 | doite | Wow thanks, one sec ill try |
| 23:49.01 | lunarDoom435 | me |
| 23:49.03 | lunarDoom435 | but |
| 23:49.08 | lunarDoom435 | lol |
| 23:49.16 | lunarDoom435 | im in training |
| 23:49.17 | lunarDoom435 | o,o |
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| 23:50.43 | Tordy | do you know how to modify an m3 |
| 23:51.04 | lunarDoom435 | e |
| 23:51.13 | lunarDoom435 | do you have 3dsmax |
| 23:51.14 | lunarDoom435 | ? |
| 23:51.16 | Tordy | nope |
| 23:51.19 | lunarDoom435 | lol |
| 23:51.19 | Tordy | im guessing ill need that right |
| 23:51.23 | lunarDoom435 | blender? |
| 23:51.26 | Tordy | nope |
| 23:51.29 | doite | actually nothing happends |
| 23:51.32 | doite | but let me check triggers |
| 23:51.33 | lunarDoom435 | any modeling program |
| 23:51.33 | lunarDoom435 | ? |
| 23:51.36 | Tordy | nope |
| 23:51.36 | doite | could easily be that |
| 23:51.48 | Tordy | just tell me if it's possible to modify the bounding sphere attribute of an m3 |
| 23:51.49 | Tordy | if so how |
| 23:51.54 | Tordy | and i'll install the necessary programs |
| 23:52.05 | lunarDoom435 | a .m3 is a model file |
| 23:52.07 | lunarDoom435 | xD |
| 23:52.08 | Tordy | yes |
| 23:52.30 | Tordy | so how do yu change those attributes |
| 23:52.47 | lunarDoom435 | via 3dsmax |
| 23:52.48 | lunarDoom435 | lol |
| 23:52.53 | lunarDoom435 | which is 9999 mil dollers |
| 23:52.58 | lunarDoom435 | xD |
| 23:53.08 | Tordy | so export it, edit w/ 3dsmax, import it back to m3? |
| 23:53.20 | lunarDoom435 | yess |
| 23:53.23 | lunarDoom435 | lol |
| 23:53.25 | Tordy | is it doable? |
| 23:53.30 | Tordy | do the converters work? |
| 23:53.30 | lunarDoom435 | YESS |
| 23:53.31 | lunarDoom435 | XD |
| 23:53.36 | Tordy | need to make sure |
| 23:53.42 | Tordy | dont want to download 10 gig for no reason |
| 23:53.48 | lunarDoom435 | lol |
| 23:53.52 | doite | Xapti |
| 23:53.55 | doite | Nope sorry mate |
| 23:53.58 | doite | Nothing happends |
| 23:54.04 | lunarDoom435 | lol |
| 23:54.12 | lunarDoom435 | for the program |
| 23:54.15 | Xapti | you've used create effect before and it's worked OK for launch missiles? |
| 23:54.17 | lunarDoom435 | ? |
| 23:54.18 | lunarDoom435 | xD |
| 23:54.22 | lunarDoom435 | do u have 3000 dollers |
| 23:54.26 | lunarDoom435 | lol |
| 23:54.29 | doite | yea |
| 23:54.45 | lunarDoom435 | damit vails not on |
| 23:54.58 | Tordy | sure |
| 23:55.03 | Tordy | 3k is chump change to me |
| 23:55.04 | Xapti | well you can revert the mover and see if the normal marauder shot fires at least |
| 23:55.15 | lunarDoom435 | are u srs |
| 23:55.17 | lunarDoom435 | XD |
| 23:55.27 | Xapti | if that doesn't work then you're doing something wrong |
| 23:55.29 | lunarDoom435 | lol |
| 23:56.07 | Tordy | this is what im talking about |
| 23:56.07 | Tordy | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12660065/marine.jpg |
| 23:56.12 | Tordy | can you modify this? |
| 23:56.13 | lunarDoom435 | also get nintoxicated's script |
| 23:56.18 | Tordy | pay close attention to it! |
| 23:56.24 | Xapti | lunardoom blender works for SC2 model stuff? |
| 23:56.26 | doite | hmm |
| 23:56.29 | Tordy | because no one knows what im talking about |
| 23:56.32 | doite | wait i may have done a misstake |
| 23:56.34 | doite | ill try again |
| 23:56.46 | Xapti | Tordy 404 |
| 23:56.54 | lunarDoom435 | lol |
| 23:56.55 | lunarDoom435 | Oops! (404) |
| 23:57.05 | Tordy | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12660065/marine.jpg |
| 23:57.09 | Tordy | try again |
| 23:57.57 | lunarDoom435 | lol yeah 3dsmax will do that for ya |
| 23:58.02 | lunarDoom435 | but |
| 23:58.06 | Tordy | but!? |
| 23:58.14 | lunarDoom435 | idk how |
| 23:58.18 | Tordy | :( |
| 23:58.33 | lunarDoom435 | 3dsmax can do anything with model formats |
| 23:58.37 | lunarDoom435 | xD |
| 23:58.39 | lunarDoom435 | that i do know |
| 23:58.43 | lunarDoom435 | better then maya |
| 23:58.44 | lunarDoom435 | xD |
| 23:58.50 | doite | THATS THE MOST AWESOME THING IVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE XAPTI! |
| 23:58.54 | doite | XEPTI* |
| 23:59.21 | lunarDoom435 | lol |
| 23:59.44 | doite | Ehm... *shy*... that may have been an over-reaction |
