| 00:00.27 | Helral | ow save the map after importing |
| 00:00.28 | Helral | :P |
| 00:01.11 | Vesuvius | still doesnt change the button :P |
| 00:03.46 | JManV | wait, i can copy a command card, can't i? |
| 00:03.59 | Helral | hmmm? |
| 00:04.09 | JManV | in the data editor |
| 00:04.23 | JManV | can you copy paste that command card field? |
| 00:04.24 | Helral | think so ;p if I get what you mean ;p |
| 00:04.39 | JManV | that'd be awesome |
| 00:07.17 | Helral | Vesuvius: my bad import path should be: GameData/Assets.txt (dunno if case sensitive) |
| 00:08.31 | Vesuvius | cool that worked |
| 00:08.32 | Vesuvius | thank you |
| 00:08.38 | Vesuvius | now i just need to find a decent button lol |
| 00:09.14 | Helral | :) |
| 00:09.19 | JManV | man i wish you could pass an array as a parameter |
| 00:09.49 | JManV | i need to bit-encode server boolean arrays for banking |
| 00:10.09 | Vesuvius | can i use that to add my own dds files as well? |
| 00:10.15 | Vesuvius | the import function I mean |
| 00:10.24 | Vesuvius | and is there a tool that converts images to.dds? |
| 00:10.31 | Vesuvius | so i can make such files :P |
| 00:11.13 | Helral | yup. but I don't know a good tool for converting ;p |
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| 00:12.44 | Shawn|Rawr | I have no idea how he linked the actor events.. |
| 00:12.53 | Shawn|Rawr | This is really bothering me |
| 00:18.34 | pirate | whats up |
| 00:25.47 | Shawn|Rawr | ~seen ProzaicMuze |
| 00:25.57 | purl | prozaicmuze <~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 23d 5h 43m 4s ago, saying: 'not your sexy woman model'. |
| 00:27.29 | JManV | hmm |
| 00:27.35 | JManV | i feel like i need source control at this point |
| 00:27.53 | JManV | guess i'll rely on backups |
| 00:29.17 | Tordy | cool hwip |
| 00:29.25 | Tordy | freebsd or openbsd |
| 00:30.13 | JManV | i wonder what would happen if i turned all my debugging back on |
| 00:30.21 | JManV | that would be psych |
| 00:30.26 | JManV | o |
| 00:31.20 | JManV | my debugging is broken up into sections, and each section can be turned on or off |
| 00:31.30 | JManV | there's about 15 sections turned off right now |
| 00:31.51 | JManV | it would just overload the screen with text |
| 00:34.35 | Vesuvius | helral, is there a way to specify a second icon to overlay with the first? |
| 00:35.35 | JManV | fingers crossed |
| 00:36.00 | JManV | this is totally going to break the banks ;) |
| 00:36.32 | JManV | w00t |
| 00:36.37 | JManV | appears to have worked |
| 00:36.50 | JManV | aha |
| 00:38.34 | JManV | wonder how bad i messed my save file |
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| 00:39.23 | JManV | hard to tell when it looks like this: |
| 00:39.24 | JManV | <Value string="C,M)mdnle:wHwrgnFvYzyg`fR|u]164|{%:B?!lnGe{_(d=.k?9E4VT:?ud7jlAc$wQ LKC"/> |
| 00:40.13 | JManV | actually, my upgrades look messed |
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| 00:53.11 | Agouti | O hello |
| 00:53.51 | JManV | ahoy |
| 00:55.15 | Agouti | anybody know of a way to make a neutral unit hot-keyable? |
| 00:55.39 | Agouti | or, alternatively, have a mineral patch owned by a player still usable by all |
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| 00:56.34 | Agouti | though I think the correct anwser for me is "don't require either" |
| 00:56.35 | progammer | patch inc people http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177101 |
| 00:56.47 | Agouti | *air raid siren* |
| 00:57.34 | Vesuvius | about fucking time |
| 00:57.42 | Agouti | actually, programmer, you might know the answers to my questions |
| 00:58.10 | progammer | wrong name please.. |
| 00:58.24 | Agouti | ... oh? |
| 00:58.40 | Vesuvius | read it carefully :P |
| 00:58.55 | Agouti | oh |
| 00:58.55 | Vesuvius | he's a gammer not a grammer |
| 00:58.56 | Vesuvius | :P |
| 00:59.07 | Agouti | I only just woke up |
| 00:59.09 | Vesuvius | I have no idea why, or why he's so snippy about it :P |
| 00:59.13 | Agouti | leave me alone :*( |
| 00:59.31 | progammer | :) |
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| 00:59.59 | Agouti | AAAAnyway I'ma rape everyones screen who was here before you joined |
| 01:00.05 | Agouti | by copy/pasteing |
| 01:00.08 | Agouti | anybody know of a way to make a neutral unit hot-keyable? |
| 01:00.09 | Agouti | <Agouti> or, alternatively, have a mineral patch owned by a player still usable by all |
| 01:00.15 | Agouti | ^_^ |
| 01:00.21 | progammer | i think that was asked before |
| 01:00.27 | progammer | and noone find out how |
| 01:00.40 | progammer | but pretty if you want more than 15 player |
| 01:00.42 | Agouti | probably asked by the person working on the map before me |
| 01:00.49 | progammer | netrral mineral is not a problem |
| 01:01.15 | progammer | *if you dont use more than 15 player |
| 01:01.20 | Agouti | but sadly neutral units are un-hotkeyable? |
| 01:01.34 | progammer | can you hotkey unit when shared control ? |
| 01:01.47 | progammer | if not then there is no solutions |
| 01:01.48 | Agouti | hmmm, I don't beleive so |
| 01:01.56 | Agouti | well, how it worked up till now |
| 01:01.57 | progammer | excep making your own control group function |
| 01:02.11 | Agouti | .... oh |
| 01:02.15 | Agouti | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.25 | Agouti | that could work |
| 01:02.40 | Agouti | as long as the same validators aren't in place |
| 01:02.49 | XenoX101 | halo |
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| 01:03.14 | Shawn|Rawr | progammer, do you know how to do work with actors? |
| 01:03.23 | progammer | no i sucks with them |
| 01:03.29 | Agouti | so, progammer, is your name to read like pro-game-r ? |
| 01:03.35 | Agouti | or is it just a name |
| 01:03.42 | progammer | its pro-gammer |
| 01:03.57 | progammer | a person who gamm profesionally |
| 01:03.58 | Agouti | I thought that was 1 m, hmm |
| 01:04.02 | Agouti | oh |
| 01:04.03 | Agouti | haha |
| 01:04.08 | XenoX101 | halo? |
| 01:04.13 | Agouti | gamm? |
| 01:04.14 | JManV | im an amatuer gammer |
| 01:04.26 | JManV | also known as an amagamma |
| 01:04.30 | Agouti | do you mean game*? |
| 01:04.32 | Shawn|Rawr | I gamm in the dark |
| 01:04.40 | Agouti | agouti is so confused! |
| 01:04.41 | progammer | no its just gamm lol |
| 01:04.43 | Agouti | stop it D: |
| 01:04.50 | XenoX101 | holy shit |
| 01:04.55 | Agouti | amalgammation? |
| 01:05.03 | Lilianna | actors act! |
| 01:05.03 | XenoX101 | I am not exaggerating when I say SC2 looks four hundred billion times better on high graphics |
| 01:05.04 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 01:05.18 | XenoX101 | like holy god |
| 01:05.30 | Agouti | and I would likewise say that everything from wow and wc3 looks a hundre billion times better as well |
| 01:05.33 | XenoX101 | I didn't realise the difference until I spent two weeks playing/using the editor on a laptop |
| 01:05.40 | XenoX101 | my god |
| 01:05.40 | Agouti | in sc2 |
| 01:05.43 | Agouti | that is |
| 01:05.44 | Lilianna | I like actors, they are fun |
| 01:05.48 | Agouti | they act? |
| 01:05.57 | XenoX101 | is there any way I can set graphics back to lowest so that I don't get the false impression that my map looks decent? |
| 01:06.04 | XenoX101 | I need to work on it still lol |
| 01:06.09 | Shawn|Rawr | Speaking of which, I recorded my archon again in Ultra |
| 01:06.11 | Shawn|Rawr | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDXODwPB0yE |
| 01:06.14 | Agouti | lilianna: I wouldn't trust them. It's all an act. |
| 01:06.16 | Lilianna | Agouti, Actors, Act the parts you put them in a role to play as. |
| 01:06.23 | Lilianna | in SC2, yes |
| 01:06.30 | JManV | that fucking archon |
| 01:06.31 | Lilianna | A unit actor acts the part of a unit! |
| 01:06.34 | JManV | it's all you talk about |
| 01:06.43 | Shawn|Rawr | It's my pride and joy |
| 01:06.58 | Agouti | IT'S ALMOST A DOUBLE RAINBOW |
| 01:07.03 | Agouti | WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? |
| 01:07.11 | Lilianna | Your rainbow archon is alot slower then the one from blizzcon |
| 01:07.21 | Shawn|Rawr | It's in the works |
| 01:07.25 | XenoX101 | ok good my graphics are back to craptastic |
| 01:07.30 | Shawn|Rawr | I still don't know how he linked the actor events |
| 01:07.43 | JManV | lol |
| 01:07.44 | Shawn|Rawr | If he even used them at all |
| 01:07.44 | XenoX101 | if anyone wants to work on map terrain proper, highly recommend using lowest graphics so you are aware of what looks bad |
| 01:07.47 | JManV | ok good? |
| 01:07.49 | Lilianna | which events? |
| 01:07.51 | JManV | captastic |
| 01:07.53 | Lilianna | the Attack and color change? |
| 01:07.54 | JManV | same sentence |
| 01:07.58 | JManV | doesn't fit |
| 01:08.12 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes Lil.. I don't know how he got the colors to sync |
| 01:08.15 | Shawn|Rawr | Unless he used triggers |
| 01:08.21 | Lilianna | XenoX101, I always have my editor in low graphics. :x |
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| 01:08.44 | XenoX101 | good :) |
| 01:08.44 | Agouti | the archon color and attack color are not linked btw |
| 01:08.52 | Lilianna | They were the same color |
| 01:08.54 | Agouti | attack color changes independant |
| 01:08.54 | Lilianna | I thought |
| 01:08.57 | XenoX101 | cause all the flashy colours can be awfully deceptive |
| 01:08.58 | Agouti | not to me |
| 01:09.07 | XenoX101 | and the bump mapping, makes any texture look sexy |
| 01:09.11 | Agouti | attack color cycles noticeably faster |
| 01:09.19 | Lilianna | Im watching it now. |
| 01:09.22 | Vail | it says they used data and triggers in the vid i think |
| 01:09.32 | Shawn|Rawr | Agouti, I'm talking about the blizzcon archon |
| 01:09.34 | Agouti | or I could be wrong, but I was fairly sure at the time |
| 01:09.36 | Agouti | oooh |
| 01:09.37 | Shawn|Rawr | It was all synced |
| 01:09.37 | Lilianna | It was Data editor only stuff Vail. :x |
| 01:09.38 | Agouti | blizzcon |
| 01:09.41 | Lilianna | it was supposed to be only data. |
| 01:09.44 | JManV | oh good that looks like garbage |
| 01:09.48 | Agouti | blizzcon = haxcon |
| 01:09.49 | progammer | yeah that gay data specialist |
| 01:10.10 | Shawn|Rawr | Ya, but I wish I knew how to do what he can lol |
| 01:10.24 | Agouti | yeah, but then you would be unable of getting a gf |
| 01:10.32 | Shawn|Rawr | Already have one |
| 01:10.32 | Agouti | what with being autistic and all |
| 01:10.50 | progammer | Shawn|Rawr: then you will lose that one |
| 01:10.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Haahah |
| 01:10.55 | XenoX101 | the guy on the blizzard dota press conference sounds so damn nervous |
| 01:10.56 | XenoX101 | its hilarious |
| 01:11.23 | progammer | public speaking problem |
| 01:11.29 | progammer | you probably will have it |
| 01:11.35 | XenoX101 | :( |
| 01:11.57 | Dustin| | all the panel dudes sucked ass this year |
| 01:12.05 | Vesuvius | i'm quite good at public speaking, I have mastered the art of umming and erring |
| 01:12.12 | XenoX101 | There's a slip up as well |
| 01:12.18 | Vesuvius | i can keep em enthralled all day with that |
| 01:12.22 | Agouti | most of the devs there are probably at least aspergic... social interaction and by extension public speaking would be hard |
| 01:12.43 | XenoX101 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKXY7u0eDSU#t=7m21s |
| 01:12.45 | Agouti | all the really bright people I know are, anyway |
| 01:12.49 | Agouti | NO XEN/ |
| 01:12.53 | Agouti | I MUST PATCH THE MAP. |
| 01:12.54 | Vesuvius | it's all about the tone you say"ummm" with |
| 01:13.05 | XenoX101 | "It's important for us--- for YOU GUYS! to have the best possible tools" |
| 01:13.12 | XenoX101 | Woops! |
| 01:13.16 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 01:13.24 | Vesuvius | well at least they give us the tools they use |
| 01:13.25 | Vesuvius | :P |
| 01:13.30 | Agouti | it's important to us that you guys have the best possible tools* |
| 01:13.30 | XenoX101 | ;p |
| 01:13.40 | Agouti | Ves: yeah, +1 that |
| 01:13.43 | XenoX101 | pfft Agouti |
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| 01:13.46 | XenoX101 | don't be an optimist |
| 01:13.50 | Lilianna | I have an idea how the attack beam matches the unit tint |
| 01:13.52 | Shawn|Rawr | Give me 100 employees that do nothing but sc2 editing and then I'll have their tools |
| 01:14.00 | Lilianna | but I need to look at the editor |
| 01:14.01 | XenoX101 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKXY7u0eDSU#t=7m21s |
| 01:14.03 | XenoX101 | "It's important for us--- for YOU GUYS! to have the best possible tools" |
| 01:14.03 | Agouti | sounds kinky |
| 01:14.10 | XenoX101 | just repeating it for posterity sake |
| 01:14.16 | Vesuvius | you'll have their staff |
| 01:14.26 | Agouti | posterity thanks you for your repition |
| 01:14.32 | Agouti | *repitition |
| 01:14.38 | nolliepoper | :S |
| 01:14.46 | Lilianna | Shawn|Rawr, okay its really easy to get the attack beam to be the same color as the actor |
| 01:14.52 | Lilianna | that is cycling |
| 01:14.52 | Shawn|Rawr | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1917993 |
| 01:14.58 | XenoX101 | is there any way I can filter the mIRC flashy icon at the bottom to only flash when good chat happens? |
| 01:15.00 | Shawn|Rawr | How? |
| 01:15.02 | Vesuvius | i almost clicked that |
| 01:15.05 | Vesuvius | then i saw it was a video |
| 01:15.05 | Lilianna | Go into the Beam Actor |
| 01:15.08 | Vesuvius | fuck videos |
| 01:15.11 | Vesuvius | :P |
| 01:15.14 | Lilianna | at the bottom Properties - Inherited Properties |
| 01:15.20 | Lilianna | and choose Tint Color |
| 01:15.22 | Agouti | ^ oh... facepalm |
| 01:15.26 | Lilianna | then make sure the beam has a host of the archon |
| 01:15.52 | Agouti | Lil for the oh god why didn't we think of that idea |
| 01:15.58 | Lilianna | :P |
| 01:16.54 | Lilianna | though implicit host might work |
| 01:17.03 | Lilianna | Lemme see |
| 01:17.06 | Lilianna | makes a red archon test |
| 01:18.01 | XenoX101 | where's A1win, we were meant to be copulating around this hour |
| 01:18.13 | Agouti | he was still here when I went to bed |
| 01:18.18 | Agouti | about 7 hours ago |
| 01:18.23 | Agouti | so probably a ways off yet |
| 01:18.28 | XenoX101 | I see |
| 01:18.35 | Agouti | smashing his head against his clever pathing stuff |
| 01:18.41 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 01:18.51 | Agouti | which probably won't make it to release because it needs to many cycles to do |
| 01:18.52 | XenoX101 | seems people are in favour of the no-respawn idea that I so adamently wanted for his map :D |
| 01:19.12 | Shawn|Rawr | Just keep it fun Xen |
| 01:19.31 | Shawn|Rawr | Add in a camera that can focus on other team members like halo does |
| 01:19.32 | XenoX101 | keep what fun? the copulating? |
| 01:19.39 | Shawn|Rawr | The game |
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| 01:20.02 | XenoX101 | I think 'keeping it fun' is probably the most ambiguous, unhelpful comment I've ever heard XD |
| 01:20.06 | XenoX101 | sry ;p |
| 01:20.16 | Lilianna | Okay Shawn|Rawr, You do have to have the Host+ be the Archon |
| 01:20.20 | Lilianna | it cant be left as Implicit |
| 01:20.30 | Lilianna | but Inheriting Tint Color does the trick |
| 01:20.32 | Stewox | hey , hello |
| 01:20.39 | XenoX101 | , yo , wassup |
| 01:20.52 | Stewox | can MPQs have folders that contain spacer or are spaces not valid in folder names ? |
| 01:21.01 | Shawn|Rawr | lol.. I made the archon be the host for my marine, and the marine cant move now lol |
| 01:21.15 | Agouti | Stewox: I beleive they can, it appears to work |
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| 01:21.28 | XenoX101 | so who is remaking the rainbow archon? |
| 01:21.30 | Stewox | ok |
| 01:21.32 | Agouti | however it is undefined behaviour so I wouldn't recommend it unless you have to |
| 01:21.44 | Shawn|Rawr | Lil, what am i putting for all these options? |
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| 01:21.50 | Agouti | there could be weird bugs |
| 01:21.52 | Lilianna | Which options? |
| 01:22.01 | Shawn|Rawr | Scope, Subject, Effect, Actor |
| 01:22.08 | Shawn|Rawr | O.O |
| 01:22.10 | Lilianna | At the very botom |
| 01:22.14 | Lilianna | choose the Actor Radial |
| 01:22.19 | Lilianna | and then find the Archon, in the drop down |
| 01:22.23 | Lilianna | thats all you need to change |
| 01:24.06 | Lilianna | in that window that is |
| 01:24.58 | Shawn|Rawr | Not working for me for some reason |
| 01:25.03 | Agouti | alrighty, riddle me this my fine young genius's: I have a neutral dropship, with a share ability for building from. It has a move command, because it is moved around via triggers. However this also means that players can issue Move commands to it... how to prevent? Validators? |
| 01:25.23 | XenoX101 | Command card |
| 01:25.25 | XenoX101 | ? |
| 01:25.29 | Agouti | they can still right click |
| 01:25.36 | Agouti | is the proble |
| 01:25.37 | Agouti | m |
| 01:25.37 | XenoX101 | can they? |
| 01:25.41 | Agouti | apparently |
| 01:25.49 | Agouti | just making the changes so I can test in SP now |
| 01:26.00 | XenoX101 | use the flags |
| 01:26.04 | XenoX101 | they affect player usage |
| 01:26.21 | Agouti | on the Move ability? |
| 01:26.28 | XenoX101 | maybe, or on the unit itself |
| 01:26.45 | Agouti | can't be on the unit itself, has to still share some of it's abilities |
| 01:26.58 | Agouti | maybe I can just disable/enable the ability with triggers |
| 01:27.01 | Agouti | if all else fails |
| 01:28.04 | Agouti | ok, could it be something in the Command Flags for the Move ability? |
| 01:28.18 | Agouti | Move Send to Selection Enabled |
| 01:28.24 | Agouti | ^ unsure what this does |
| 01:28.43 | XenoX101 | try it |
| 01:29.15 | Agouti | might, have to make a copy of it though, wooo |
| 01:29.52 | JManV | anyone else have it the trigger editor show 3 of every function group sometimes? |
| 01:30.29 | Agouti | yes |
| 01:30.35 | Agouti | mine always shows 2 |
| 01:30.37 | JManV | any idea why that happens? |
| 01:30.42 | XenoX101 | there's also a "State" area which you can put the ability to "restricted" |
| 01:30.43 | JManV | mine just stopped for some reason |
| 01:30.45 | Agouti | something to do with dependencies I think |
| 01:30.55 | XenoX101 | or "suppressed" |
| 01:31.04 | Agouti | if the functions are defined in multiple places, maybe |
| 01:31.11 | Agouti | perhaps |
| 01:31.19 | Agouti | idk I never use them so haven't tried to fix |
| 01:31.38 | JManV | they seem to all reference the same functions |
| 01:34.07 | XenoX101 | the band "Live" is the forgotten Pearl Jam of the 90 |
| 01:34.09 | XenoX101 | 90s |
| 01:34.21 | JManV | live was awesome |
| 01:34.24 | JManV | a little preachy |
| 01:34.26 | JManV | but awesome |
| 01:34.39 | XenoX101 | their first album is very solid |
| 01:34.44 | XenoX101 | all the songs are decent |
| 01:34.57 | JManV | mental jewelry? |
| 01:34.59 | XenoX101 | perhaps a bit preachy, but nowhere near creed territory |
| 01:35.04 | JManV | no |
| 01:35.16 | XenoX101 | "Throwing Stones" |
| 01:35.19 | XenoX101 | err |
| 01:35.20 | XenoX101 | Copper |
| 01:35.21 | JManV | some of the songs on mental jewelry were quite preachy tho |
| 01:35.23 | XenoX101 | "Throwing Copper" |
| 01:35.26 | XenoX101 | I see |
| 01:35.32 | JManV | mental jewelry was first album |
| 01:35.34 | nolliepoper | anyone know any flamestrike looking models off the top of their heads? |
| 01:35.37 | JManV | it was preachier |
| 01:35.37 | XenoX101 | oh right |
| 01:35.38 | XenoX101 | my bad |
| 01:35.47 | JManV | throwing copper was awesome album |
| 01:35.58 | XenoX101 | yeah thats the one I'm listening to these times |
| 01:36.02 | JManV | i like dam at otter creek and selling the drama |
| 01:36.07 | JManV | and pillar of davidson |
| 01:37.10 | XenoX101 | hm, should try to get those |
| 01:37.25 | JManV | comeon baby leave some change behind |
| 01:37.29 | XenoX101 | anyone know why my data editor is missing the entire bottom 'tree view' area? |
| 01:37.39 | Agouti | default fields off? |
| 01:37.45 | XenoX101 | 'lightning crashes' is a great song |
| 01:38.06 | XenoX101 | oh, 'show object explorer' |
| 01:38.08 | XenoX101 | rightmost icon |
| 01:38.19 | JManV | it got way too much radio play back in the day |
| 01:38.27 | JManV | the radio raped the hell out of that song |
| 01:38.32 | XenoX101 | yeah true |
| 01:38.39 | XenoX101 | how old are you if you dont mind me asknig? |
| 01:38.40 | JManV | i alone as well |
| 01:38.47 | JManV | was never a great song to begin with |
| 01:38.48 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 01:38.57 | XenoX101 | I agree, one of the weaker songs on the album, too radio friendly |
| 01:38.57 | JManV | nothing like selling the drama |
| 01:39.07 | XenoX101 | selling the drama is nice |
| 01:39.14 | JManV | or dam at otter creek, which got no radio play |
| 01:39.19 | JManV | but is an incredible song |
| 01:39.24 | JManV | a little dark tho |
| 01:39.32 | XenoX101 | its cause they're more niche songs |
| 01:39.58 | Agouti | ugh, I hate facepalm moments |
| 01:40.00 | Agouti | :( |
| 01:40.15 | Agouti | I duplicated the Move ability so I could play around with it |
| 01:40.21 | Agouti | then started testing flags |
| 01:40.22 | JManV | they got a lot weird in their following albums tho |
| 01:40.24 | Agouti | and none of it worked |
| 01:40.35 | Agouti | then remembered I forgot to change the ability in the trigger... DOH |
| 01:40.36 | JManV | nothing like throwing copper |
| 01:40.45 | JManV | throwing copper is like rotting pinata |
| 01:40.57 | Agouti | sif justifiably ignore my random rant |
| 01:40.58 | JManV | total peek album for the band |
| 01:40.58 | Agouti | meanie |
| 01:41.01 | XenoX101 | I see |
| 01:41.18 | XenoX101 | why are my once perfectly working Artifact shrines now showing up as the original vespene geyser? |
| 01:41.25 | XenoX101 | all I did was move the map from one comp to another |
| 01:41.32 | XenoX101 | actor is still Artifact shrine |
| 01:41.40 | Agouti | model is still correct? |
| 01:42.04 | JManV | agouti: i can't count the number of times i've tried to test something without turning it on/calling it first |
| 01:42.23 | JManV | xenox: ever heard rotting pinata by sponge? |
| 01:42.28 | XenoX101 | yeah its still there |
| 01:42.34 | XenoX101 | JManV: nope |
| 01:42.44 | JManV | you've prolly heard a song or to |
| 01:42.50 | XenoX101 | possibly |
| 01:42.51 | JManV | its an incredible album |
| 01:43.04 | JManV | plowed, and molly i think had radio play |
| 01:43.07 | XenoX101 | will look into it |
| 01:43.36 | JManV | sponge has a very live-ish feel. very vocal, very lyrical |
| 01:44.12 | Shawn|Rawr | My sponge never serenades me |
| 01:44.12 | XenoX101 | wtf, even the 'preview' at the bottom of the left panel in GE shows an Artifact Shrine |
| 01:44.19 | JManV | but then they started trying to sound like stone temple pilots, who themselves were changing their sound and starting to suck |
| 01:45.14 | Agouti | Anybody know what Field [unit] Ability - Commands - State to Restricted is supposed to do? |
| 01:45.28 | Agouti | there are 3 options, Available, Restricted, and Suppressed |
| 01:45.34 | Agouti | Restricted doesn't seem to do anything |
| 01:45.56 | JManV | your guess is as good as mine |
| 01:46.07 | Agouti | unlikely but thanks |
| 01:46.27 | JManV | when it comes to the data editor, definitely |
| 01:46.53 | JManV | i'm good with triggers, but the data editor is my kryptonite |
| 01:46.58 | XenoX101 | rrr cant get these vespene geysers to go back to artifact shrines |
| 01:47.08 | Agouti | Ugh... I can't think of any way to do this. any command given via trigger has the same restrictions as a command given via shared control |
| 01:47.08 | XenoX101 | all I did was move the damn map from one comp to another |
| 01:47.18 | Agouti | xen: post map? |
| 01:47.30 | XenoX101 | sec |
| 01:47.43 | XenoX101 | you got msn or email? |
| 01:47.51 | Agouti | msn |
| 01:47.54 | Agouti | kelbolden@hotmail.com |
| 01:48.06 | Agouti | i'll need to change clients to get file transfers, I think |
| 01:48.13 | XenoX101 | k |
| 01:48.37 | Agouti | add, and if I can't, I'll download WLM |
| 01:48.42 | XenoX101 | k |
| 01:48.51 | Agouti | don't suppose you have xfire? |
| 01:49.02 | XenoX101 | nah |
| 01:49.08 | XenoX101 | I should get it though |
| 01:49.25 | XenoX101 | I've got an account, used to have it ages ago |
| 01:49.27 | Agouti | yeah, it is neato |
| 01:49.35 | Agouti | also, xfire supports MSN |
| 01:49.45 | XenoX101 | within it ? |
| 01:49.47 | Agouti | quite seamlessly actually |
| 01:49.48 | Agouti | yeah |
| 01:49.51 | XenoX101 | nice |
| 01:50.19 | Agouti | I don't think it sets status, but it will notify (if you have it enabled) if someone IM's you while in game |
| 01:50.28 | XenoX101 | ah yeah |
| 01:51.32 | XenoX101 | whats your xfire? |
| 01:52.36 | Agouti | trmagouti |
| 01:53.10 | Agouti | despite me almost never having to pick a different name, in 2003 someone had it |
| 01:53.14 | Agouti | :( |
| 01:53.25 | JManV | i need to post my debug library sometime soon for everyone else... it's super awesome |
| 01:53.33 | XenoX101 | wow it even keeps my favourites |
| 01:53.34 | Agouti | orly |
| 01:53.45 | Agouti | debug library does what :p |
| 01:53.48 | Agouti | :o* |
| 01:54.07 | JManV | you set up sections of code, and turn debugging on/off for each individual section |
| 01:54.16 | Agouti | fancy |
| 01:54.27 | JManV | then you call a function to display a debug message, and it does nothing if that section is off |
| 01:54.32 | JManV | it also writes to file |
| 01:54.49 | JManV | and you can set up where each section goes, what color |
| 01:55.04 | JManV | so you can turn off all your debug code at once |
| 01:55.05 | XenoX101 | you online Agouti? |
| 01:55.13 | JManV | while still being able to turn it back on |
| 01:55.15 | Shawn|Rawr | Now as soon as I can figure out that rainbow circle attack, I'm set |
| 01:55.19 | Shawn|Rawr | And the chain lightninng |
| 01:57.38 | Agouti | o btw |
| 01:57.48 | Agouti | I have a patched and working version of the Nakama Voting |
| 01:57.51 | Agouti | library |
| 01:57.59 | Agouti | with a few more features |
| 01:58.04 | Agouti | if somebody wants it |
| 01:58.12 | pirate | DO FISH HAVE LUNGS?! |
| 01:58.17 | Agouti | NO. |
| 01:58.20 | Agouti | well |
| 01:58.24 | Agouti | a few do |
| 01:58.37 | XenoX101 | they have gills |
| 01:59.20 | pirate | google agrees with these statements |
| 02:01.00 | allenmelon | pirate? |
| 02:01.07 | allenmelon | i just played a guy named pirate... |
| 02:01.11 | JManV | how is a variable 1 right before i call a function, and 0 at the first line of the function? |
| 02:01.16 | JManV | that's messed |
| 02:01.28 | pirate | wasnt me |
| 02:01.37 | pirate | ive been mapping for the last several hours |
| 02:02.05 | pirate | he's probably trying to take credit for mah maps! |
| 02:02.19 | pirate | US or UK? |
| 02:02.19 | JManV | dammit |
| 02:02.30 | JManV | blizzard allowing locals to have the same name as a global |
| 02:02.42 | allenmelon | us |
| 02:02.50 | allenmelon | but his name was Pirate |
| 02:02.52 | allenmelon | with a capital P |
| 02:02.53 | allenmelon | lol |
| 02:02.58 | pirate | ... |
| 02:04.00 | JManV | why would you actually play starcraft? ;) |
| 02:04.08 | pirate | ^^ |
| 02:04.36 | JManV | i was looking for a replay yesterday... all the recent games: my map |
| 02:04.39 | JManV | every one |
| 02:05.02 | pirate | what map? |
| 02:05.12 | JManV | i'm building a map |
| 02:05.23 | JManV | but i was actually logged in to bnet |
| 02:05.26 | JManV | testing a map |
| 02:05.32 | JManV | so it kept all the replays |
| 02:06.49 | JManV | i probably average a game a day |
| 02:07.01 | JManV | although i'm kindof addicted to zealot frenzy |
| 02:07.05 | JManV | as imbalanced as it is |
| 02:07.28 | allenmelon | anyone wanna help stress test bounty/s map? |
| 02:07.44 | Vesuvius | can someone please help drive me insane |
| 02:07.47 | Vesuvius | I'm tired of sanity |
| 02:07.53 | allenmelon | on us servers, |
| 02:07.57 | Vesuvius | it makes me sucha boring person |
| 02:12.24 | XenoX101 | why does foilage by default grow in space? |
| 02:12.45 | Shawn|Rawr | You didn't take it out |
| 02:12.54 | XenoX101 | I know, so it defaults to being present there |
| 02:13.00 | XenoX101 | like some kind of weird ebris |
| 02:13.01 | XenoX101 | debris* |
| 02:13.06 | Shawn|Rawr | Foliage in the space set is like.. debris ya |
| 02:14.49 | XenoX101 | they need to put some antialiasing in the editor |
| 02:14.56 | XenoX101 | maps look distorted zoomed out |
| 02:15.24 | Vesuvius | anyone know a simple way to do collision based missiles? |
| 02:15.26 | XenoX101 | like a noisy television |
| 02:15.43 | Vail | collision based? |
| 02:16.23 | Vesuvius | like you shoot the missile and it hits the first object it collides with |
| 02:16.45 | Vesuvius | seems like something that should have a fairly straight forward solution |
| 02:17.13 | Vesuvius | i suppose i could always just create a unit and launch it |
| 02:17.15 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 02:17.26 | Vesuvius | then have it explode on contact |
| 02:17.37 | Vesuvius | but that's way hacky |
| 02:17.46 | Vail | maybe a launch missile effect that targets the offset of a create persistent with a retarget ? |
| 02:19.37 | Vesuvius | hmm |
| 02:19.53 | Vail | and a small retarget range .. |
| 02:20.19 | Vesuvius | maybe it could set up a search area funciton |
| 02:20.22 | Vesuvius | with a super narrow cone |
| 02:20.33 | Vesuvius | between the target and the origin |
| 02:20.44 | Vesuvius | and fire at the first thing in the area |
| 02:20.45 | Vail | let me run some test |
| 02:20.52 | Vesuvius | though that probably checks against unit center |
| 02:20.59 | Vesuvius | which makes it kind of useless |
| 02:21.08 | Vesuvius | there ought to be a way to change the mover |
| 02:21.26 | Vesuvius | you can change a mover's driver from guidance to ballistic |
| 02:21.34 | Vesuvius | but when i do that on photons they go all wonky |
| 02:21.52 | XenoX101 | Vesuv if you figure something any chance you could sneak me in on it? It's just projectile collisions are the crux of my project :) |
| 02:22.03 | XenoX101 | I'd be happy to help you in some way |
| 02:22.14 | XenoX101 | in return* |
| 02:24.27 | Vesuvius | if i figure a good way out i can tell you |
| 02:24.32 | Vesuvius | apparently all blizzard's movers |
| 02:24.38 | Vesuvius | use guidance at some stage |
| 02:26.40 | allenmelon | anyone wanna test arean map for bounty on us server? |
| 02:26.45 | allenmelon | arena* |
| 02:28.21 | Vesuvius | apparently photon shots have the terran vehicle armor plating |
| 02:28.29 | JManV | awesome |
| 02:28.32 | JManV | i did not know that |
| 02:28.48 | Vesuvius | as their armor icon |
| 02:28.58 | Vesuvius | err sorry not icon |
| 02:29.00 | Vesuvius | armor name |
| 02:29.00 | Vesuvius | :P |
| 02:29.08 | JManV | well i don't think they were intended to be selectable units |
| 02:29.12 | allenmelon | anyone? |
| 02:29.41 | JManV | allen: sure |
| 02:29.52 | Vesuvius | yeah i know :P |
| 02:30.29 | JManV | JManV:733 |
| 02:31.43 | JManV | or not |
| 02:31.49 | JManV | allenmelon? |
| 02:32.00 | allenmelon | ? |
| 02:32.02 | allenmelon | oh u wanna? |
| 02:32.03 | allenmelon | oh ok |
| 02:32.06 | JManV | yeah |
| 02:32.07 | allenmelon | allenmelon.635 |
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| 02:40.35 | bounty | Anyone want to help stress test a 14 player map? |
| 02:40.39 | bounty | we just need a few more |
| 02:41.28 | Agouti | if I agree... can I ask for the saem favor back at a later date? |
| 02:41.43 | Agouti | time* |
| 02:41.43 | bounty | sure |
| 02:41.50 | Agouti | then sure :D |
| 02:41.58 | bounty | PM me @Bounty.820 |
| 02:42.23 | bounty | same for neone else |
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| 02:56.52 | nolliepoper | so you can't changed the mouse cursor with triggers? |
| 02:57.27 | Vesuvius | ah |
| 02:57.58 | Vesuvius | err wait, i'll resume that ah later so I don't speak prematurely |
| 02:58.02 | nolliepoper | anyone remember how to change the mouse cursor via data? |
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| 02:59.36 | Agouti | for a particular unit, or the whole map? |
| 02:59.52 | Agouti | for the whole map, I wasn't aware that you could with data only |
| 03:00.24 | nolliepoper | for a player. |
| 03:00.42 | Agouti | are you sure it's possible to do? |
| 03:00.54 | nolliepoper | no here is what I need, to change the mouse cursor for one player then change it back later. |
| 03:00.54 | Agouti | also known as: I have no idea, sorry |
| 03:01.04 | Agouti | triggers |
| 03:01.09 | Agouti | no reason not to use them for that |
| 03:01.17 | nolliepoper | Yes how do you think a target effect works? |
| 03:01.35 | Agouti | er |
| 03:01.39 | nolliepoper | because maybe there is not any triggers to change the mouse cursor |
| 03:01.41 | Agouti | ok, I'm confused as to what you want |
| 03:01.49 | nolliepoper | there is a highlight unit cursor |
| 03:01.50 | Agouti | sorry |
| 03:01.51 | nolliepoper | thats stupid though |
| 03:02.44 | Skittles | rawr |
| 03:02.56 | Agouti | um, you could do it with hiding the default cursor, and adding your own, which is moved with mouse tracking |
| 03:03.27 | Agouti | sorry, I can't help much beyond that rather ugly suggestion |
| 03:04.12 | nolliepoper | There is a easy way to change them, why else would they let you make custom ones? |
| 03:05.31 | Agouti | you might have to do it via catalog fields |
| 03:05.54 | Agouti | as to the exact field and path, if google doesn't know, gl finding it |
| 03:06.54 | Skittles | I don't think you can change ui with catalogs any way |
| 03:08.40 | XenoX101 | I think we should make a new song like the baneling one for SC2 |
| 03:08.42 | XenoX101 | only for sc2 mapster |
| 03:09.04 | XenoX101 | "I've got a fever... and the only prescription... is more doodads!" |
| 03:09.32 | Skittles | uuh |
| 03:09.35 | Skittles | >.> |
| 03:09.37 | Skittles | <.< |
| 03:09.43 | XenoX101 | come on, all maps could use more doodads |
| 03:09.49 | XenoX101 | doodads on doodads on doodads |
| 03:09.55 | XenoX101 | NEED MORE DOODADS! |
| 03:10.13 | XenoX101 | YOU MUST CONSTRUCCT ADDITT1ONAL D00DADS!!!11!11one |
| 03:10.13 | Skittles | Lets all hold hands and sing marry then! |
| 03:14.27 | Skittles | Powa to the Doodads of the People, for the People. |
| 03:14.28 | Shawn|Rawr | Poop |
| 03:14.43 | Skittles | Unnecessary young man! |
| 03:15.00 | Shawn|Rawr | Where? |
| 03:15.07 | Skittles | In your mouth?' |
| 03:15.14 | Skittles | eeeeeeeeew |
| 03:15.19 | Shawn|Rawr | There is no young man in my mouth |
| 03:15.58 | Agouti | mores the pity |
| 03:16.01 | Skittles | Check again |
| 03:16.19 | Skittles | Anybody know a model that would make a good pool of acid |
| 03:16.28 | Agouti | spawning pool? |
| 03:16.35 | Agouti | set with negative heigt? |
| 03:16.39 | Agouti | *hieght? |
| 03:16.57 | Agouti | or alternatively edit some water and make it look the way you want |
| 03:17.07 | Skittles | Gotta make it on the fly |
| 03:17.16 | Agouti | oh |
| 03:17.58 | Agouti | spawning pool is all I can think of |
| 03:18.09 | Agouti | if you set it low, and adjust the tint, might get it to work |
| 03:19.19 | Skittles | think i found my man. |
| 03:19.37 | Skittles | disease cloud + constricting slime launch |
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| 03:25.27 | nolliepoper | hi guys derp FieldFlameStrikeAbility UI - Show ProgressFinish |
| 03:25.41 | nolliepoper | y no show progress bar |
| 03:27.25 | Skittles | derp |
| 03:27.48 | nolliepoper | herp |
| 03:27.52 | Skittles | herpies |
| 03:28.01 | nolliepoper | no progress bar :( |
| 03:29.38 | nolliepoper | damnit |
| 03:29.50 | nolliepoper | you can't show the progress bar on a transient ability |
| 03:30.02 | nolliepoper | How the hell are we suppos to know this jank? |
| 03:30.07 | nolliepoper | trial and error |
| 03:30.58 | JManV | transient just means it doesn't interrupt the current commands, right? |
| 03:31.04 | Shawn|Rawr | Sure |
| 03:31.17 | JManV | as far as i can tell |
| 03:31.31 | nolliepoper | Well I got it figured out now because I just told you guys it was transient which prevented prgress bars |
| 03:31.32 | JManV | i set it on my shield spell so he could run away while casting it |
| 03:31.43 | JManV | gotcha |
| 03:32.08 | JManV | apparently you can't set a learn abilities ability to transient |
| 03:32.14 | JManV | which kind of makes sense |
| 03:32.18 | nolliepoper | JManV I making some badass progress on my map, straight pvp style 3v3 with many spells to cast :S |
| 03:32.20 | JManV | but it'd be nice to have the option |
| 03:32.34 | JManV | rockin |
| 03:32.47 | JManV | i've got this kick-ass tree dialog i'm working on |
| 03:33.03 | JManV | it' |
| 03:33.08 | JManV | it's all data-based |
| 03:33.17 | JManV | not game data, variable data |
| 03:33.22 | JManV | but still |
| 03:33.26 | nolliepoper | explain tree dialog |
| 03:33.37 | nolliepoper | you mean like a talent tree I saw in power level overwhelming? |
| 03:33.38 | JManV | i have a hero upgrade tree |
| 03:33.50 | JManV | yeah but it's really wide |
| 03:33.58 | nolliepoper | I did't know poeple did dialogs in data |
| 03:34.10 | JManV | you can't |
| 03:34.19 | JManV | it'd be awesome if you could |
| 03:34.53 | nolliepoper | ahha I will be working on a fully customized crazy dialog health bars for every player |
| 03:35.03 | nolliepoper | I not really looking forward to all that |
| 03:35.10 | Dustin| | IS there a problem with footprints? |
| 03:35.24 | Agouti | YES. |
| 03:35.33 | Agouti | stupid stupid stupid stupid bugged stupidness |
| 03:35.37 | Agouti | RAAAAAAAAWR |
| 03:35.40 | Agouti | hate them so much |
| 03:35.51 | Dustin| | Everything was fine till I added a new building |
| 03:35.56 | Agouti | makes me want to kick a puppy |
| 03:35.57 | JManV | like me tell you something |
| 03:36.03 | Dustin| | Now I cant build shit anywhere and I can walk through shit |
| 03:36.05 | Dustin| | Is that normal... |
| 03:36.06 | JManV | constants make building dialogs much easier |
| 03:36.30 | Agouti | constants, as in variables to hold the dialogs and items? |
| 03:36.41 | Agouti | well, yeah, they are kinda super important lol |
| 03:36.44 | nolliepoper | Jman while your not afk |
| 03:36.47 | JManV | no, constants as in the gaps |
| 03:36.50 | nolliepoper | How to change the cursor for one player? |
| 03:36.52 | Agouti | ah |
| 03:36.55 | JManV | sizes of things |
| 03:36.55 | nolliepoper | with data or what? |
| 03:36.59 | JManV | should all be constants |
| 03:37.06 | Agouti | I have 25 pixels on top, and 20 around the edges I think |
| 03:37.09 | Agouti | no gap between buttons |
| 03:37.11 | JManV | there shouldn't be any actual numbers in dialog code |
| 03:37.16 | Agouti | and um some amount if there is a title |
| 03:37.25 | JManV | line height, icon size |
| 03:37.28 | Agouti | yeah good point JManV |
| 03:37.30 | JManV | any of that |
| 03:37.32 | JManV | constants |
| 03:37.34 | Agouti | magic numbers are bad |
| 03:37.38 | JManV | so much easier |
| 03:37.46 | JManV | because you *will* change something |
| 03:37.47 | nolliepoper | can I use an actor to change the mouse cursor JMan? |
| 03:37.51 | Agouti | I try to avoid magic numbers wherever possible |
| 03:37.51 | Dustin| | nm it was a pathing blocker filler |
| 03:38.05 | JManV | i'm not sure nollie |
| 03:38.38 | JManV | http://oi54.tinypic.com/20aa1xg.jpg |
| 03:38.52 | JManV | that doesn't quite capture the interactivity of the dialog |
| 03:38.56 | JManV | i might make a video for that |
| 03:39.04 | JManV | because it's hypercool |
| 03:39.23 | XenoX101 | man I smell bad |
| 03:39.25 | JManV | selecting an option opens up a branch |
| 03:39.37 | XenoX101 | brb shower |
| 03:40.00 | JManV | and all of that is stored in variables, it's not a dialog i built by hand |
| 03:40.36 | JManV | there's a recursive function to determine how wide each branch will be |
| 03:40.37 | nolliepoper | Hopefuly I won't have to go that far with dialogs |
| 03:40.43 | JManV | and a recursive function to draw it |
| 03:40.45 | nolliepoper | some people just become obsessed with them. |
| 03:40.50 | JManV | yeah that's kind of nuts |
| 03:40.55 | JManV | but cool :P |
| 03:41.05 | JManV | (some people) |
| 03:41.19 | nolliepoper | sc1 did fine without them. |
| 03:41.21 | JManV | i couldn't think of any other way to do a tree like that |
| 03:41.33 | JManV | i wanted you to be able to see what each path unlocked |
| 03:41.44 | nolliepoper | Looked good. |
| 03:41.48 | JManV | you can't do that in a command card |
| 03:41.52 | nolliepoper | Looked just liek power level overwhelmings |
| 03:42.22 | nolliepoper | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaeBikNtDLk |
| 03:42.27 | JManV | well i stole the dialog elements from the ingame tech trees |
| 03:44.03 | nolliepoper | Yo quick question because my memory blows when it comes to the data editor |
| 03:44.44 | nolliepoper | whats is the difference between using a set of effects and just adding multiple effects to the abilities effects list. |
| 03:45.25 | Agouti | is there any special trick to getting the footprint editor to work? |
| 03:45.42 | JManV | yeah that's fairly similar |
| 03:45.46 | JManV | he used the same arrows |
| 03:45.49 | nolliepoper | on that youtube link check 2 minutes and 37 seconds |
| 03:46.41 | nolliepoper | did anyone catch my set question? |
| 03:46.43 | JManV | mines a little branch-ier |
| 03:46.49 | JManV | i did, but have no clue |
| 03:47.14 | nolliepoper | I think the sets don't wait for any to finnish |
| 03:47.21 | nolliepoper | not sure though |
| 03:47.31 | nolliepoper | you never used a set effect? |
| 03:47.46 | JManV | nope |
| 03:47.56 | JManV | i'm still on the broad strokes |
| 03:48.05 | JManV | i'm building the engine before all the heros and abilities |
| 03:48.21 | nolliepoper | what type of engine |
| 03:48.30 | JManV | RPG |
| 03:48.35 | nolliepoper | lol |
| 03:48.49 | nolliepoper | I guess mine is technically an rpg too but I think of it as pure pvp |
| 03:49.24 | JManV | mines like regular starcraft with heros and no mining |
| 03:49.41 | Agouti | sounds interesting |
| 03:49.42 | JManV | you have a hero but you train units |
| 03:49.45 | Agouti | income from ? |
| 03:49.47 | JManV | killing |
| 03:49.49 | JManV | quests |
| 03:50.13 | JManV | there are random encounters |
| 03:50.41 | JManV | and each race kind of plays against each other |
| 03:51.00 | JManV | but it's playable from 1-11 players |
| 03:51.24 | JManV | and i'm trying to make it so the power level of the heroes gets balanced by the challenge of the game |
| 03:51.33 | JManV | so higher level players can't just annoy lower level players |
| 03:52.08 | nolliepoper | I intended mine to be 1v1 - 5v5 but my mind blew up when I thought about coding the custom health bars to be that flexible. |
| 03:52.31 | JManV | and i recently decided that i think i want to significantly drop the power level gained per level after a certain point |
| 03:53.20 | JManV | yeah it can be crazy |
| 03:53.37 | JManV | cuz technically my game could have 11 players on the same team |
| 03:54.00 | JManV | i'm hoping the number of random spawns required to balance that doesn't lag the game too much |
| 03:54.09 | JManV | i may drop the max number of players some |
| 03:54.22 | JManV | 11 is just because that's the number of players left after the 3 computers |
| 03:54.51 | Skittles | what's your map? |
| 03:54.56 | JManV | it's an RPG |
| 03:55.17 | Skittles | oh |
| 03:55.22 | JManV | you probably haven't heard much about it. i haven't advertised much |
| 03:55.23 | JManV | yet |
| 03:55.36 | Skittles | Yeah, I should probably start dong that as well. |
| 03:55.53 | Skittles | Terrain in my map alone will get people to go ooh and ahh for me. lol |
| 03:56.01 | JManV | i need to have enough juicy morsels to entice |
| 03:56.16 | Dogmai | morning all |
| 03:56.27 | JManV | half of my terrain is still bare :) |
| 03:56.27 | Skittles | morn |
| 03:56.44 | Skittles | Eh, I go back n forth from triggers to keep myself unbored |
| 03:56.47 | JManV | i'm leaving it open for quest areas and such |
| 03:56.58 | Skittles | Maps are just so small tho |
| 03:57.06 | JManV | mines max |
| 03:57.12 | Skittles | same here ofc |
| 03:57.15 | Skittles | but that's small |
| 03:57.17 | JManV | still kind of small |
| 03:57.25 | Skittles | especially for a rpg |
| 03:57.25 | JManV | i've been able to work with it |
| 03:57.36 | JManV | small-ish corridors |
| 03:57.58 | JManV | it takes quite a while to get across the map |
| 03:58.03 | JManV | even with a flying unit |
| 03:58.12 | Skittles | yeah |
| 03:58.33 | JManV | that's kind of why i decided to pit players against each other |
| 03:58.34 | Skittles | still i'm making a zombie rpg and I couldn't make any inside of buildings =( |
| 03:58.37 | JManV | on top of the RPG |
| 03:58.45 | JManV | to add some depth |
| 03:59.55 | JManV | and i can have each race have quests in the same places |
| 04:00.27 | JManV | and if they run into each other... |
| 04:00.45 | JManV | but it isn't much space for 11 players |
| 04:00.54 | JManV | i might have to drop that for logistical reasons |
| 04:01.20 | Agouti | ok, any ideas why the following doesn't work: |
| 04:01.20 | Skittles | I think it's not really a great idea to have races fight each other in a rpg tbh |
| 04:01.26 | Agouti | I have an array of unit types |
| 04:01.32 | Agouti | that a particular building can build |
| 04:01.32 | JManV | no? |
| 04:01.49 | Skittles | takes more space for starter quests and if you're allowed to save then a high level may pawn the hell out of u |
| 04:01.49 | Agouti | when the unit is created from that building |
| 04:01.55 | Skittles | and teams probably wont be even |
| 04:01.57 | Skittles | and etc. |
| 04:02.10 | Agouti | it loops through the array and compares the unit type of the created unit |
| 04:02.17 | Agouti | however the comparison never returns true |
| 04:02.18 | JManV | i'm trying to balance that with random encounters |
| 04:02.23 | Agouti | any ideas? |
| 04:02.35 | JManV | if you retreat to a safe area, the random encounters should balance any level differential |
| 04:02.51 | Skittles | So like Godzilla? |
| 04:02.53 | Agouti | jmanv! stop telling us about your ideas and help poor agouti D:! |
| 04:03.03 | Skittles | lol |
| 04:03.12 | Skittles | You would need to cnp the trigger on pastebin |
| 04:03.20 | Agouti | mmmk :'( |
| 04:03.55 | nolliepoper | u greedy agouti? |
| 04:04.03 | Agouti | yes! |
| 04:04.11 | JManV | my original idea was just to build a protoss rpg |
| 04:04.13 | Agouti | though I may have found the problem |
| 04:05.06 | JManV | but there's not a lot of depth if everyone's on the same team |
| 04:05.37 | Agouti | 2 teams is a good number |
| 04:05.38 | Agouti | imo |
| 04:05.50 | Agouti | there is a reason soooooooooooo many games of all kinds use that number |
| 04:06.10 | JManV | but i want to allow saving, and balance is still an issue |
| 04:06.31 | Agouti | have a PvP area? |
| 04:06.37 | Agouti | where all teh really good stuff is? |
| 04:06.44 | JManV | perhaps |
| 04:06.53 | JManV | i actually considered having a safe area |
| 04:07.03 | JManV | other way around |
| 04:07.11 | JManV | hmmm |
| 04:07.17 | Skittles | Imo, sc2 is only good for rpgs that focus around stages. |
| 04:07.25 | JManV | stages> |
| 04:07.41 | Skittles | You go to one stage, do the objective, fight the boss, go to next stage. |
| 04:07.48 | Skittles | Like obsidian from wc3 |
| 04:07.52 | JManV | ah |
| 04:07.58 | JManV | not my cup of tree |
| 04:07.59 | JManV | tee |
| 04:08.01 | JManV | tea |
| 04:08.05 | JManV | wow |
| 04:08.09 | Skittles | Your tree's taste like grass. |
| 04:08.15 | JManV | i like free form rpg better |
| 04:08.29 | Skittles | Yeah, but maps are just so damn small |
| 04:08.35 | JManV | i know |
| 04:09.36 | JManV | that's kind of why i'm thinking of dropping the power level gain significantly after like level 20 |
| 04:09.49 | JManV | you get a little bit each level |
| 04:09.51 | JManV | but not a lot |
| 04:09.58 | JManV | so the level differential isn't so great |
| 04:10.07 | JManV | but you do get some cool bonuses |
| 04:10.36 | Skittles | rather than that, you would be better off with evolves, right? |
| 04:10.40 | JManV | up to level 20 you can do various quests around your base and remain pretty safe |
| 04:10.47 | Skittles | mage becomes a magi or w/e |
| 04:10.58 | JManV | http://oi54.tinypic.com/20aa1xg.jpg |
| 04:10.59 | Skittles | so you restart your level, but you get cooler spells. |
| 04:11.08 | JManV | interesting... |
| 04:11.29 | JManV | i'm working on hero upgrade paths as we speak |
| 04:11.57 | Skittles | brb |
| 04:14.09 | Shawn|Rawr | watching onetwo struggle in his first tutorials is hilarious |
| 04:14.32 | JManV | hmmm... evolution, iteresting idea |
| 04:15.11 | JManV | right now, i have it so you gain 1 in every stat, plus you get to pick a stat each level |
| 04:15.22 | JManV | i was considering stopping the 1 in every stat at level 20 |
| 04:15.44 | JManV | but every 10 levels, you get to upgrade to a new form |
| 04:15.55 | JManV | which gives some small(ish) stat bonuses |
| 04:16.29 | JManV | so the differential between 20 and 30 is decent, but 20-29 isn't very big |
| 04:16.51 | JManV | up to like level 50 |
| 04:17.00 | JManV | but i might have to try it all out |
| 04:17.50 | Skittles | back |
| 04:18.32 | Skittles | mmhmm |
| 04:19.12 | JManV | i'm not sure how well i can balance it, i'm just trying to make the most out of what i got |
| 04:20.00 | JManV | my other thought before was to make a pokemon-style game where the pokemon are sc2 units |
| 04:20.17 | Agouti | how do you disable resource trading again? |
| 04:20.27 | JManV | turn of the UI frame for it? |
| 04:20.40 | Agouti | hmm, ok |
| 04:24.13 | JManV | gotta catch em all! |
| 04:24.22 | Skittles | ASH CATCHEM! |
| 04:24.38 | JManV | that'd actually be kind of fun |
| 04:25.04 | Skittles | eh |
| 04:25.32 | JManV | you wouldn't be excited to catch a collosus? ;P |
| 04:25.37 | Skittles | Kinda excited to start on my next map tho. |
| 04:25.44 | Skittles | collosus? |
| 04:25.51 | Skittles | He would be a evolutioned sentry?! |
| 04:26.00 | JManV | hehe |
| 04:26.02 | Skittles | well |
| 04:26.09 | Skittles | sentry -> spider -> collosus |
| 04:26.32 | Skittles | you could also attach units to units to make even more units |
| 04:27.12 | JManV | see... it's sparking your imagination. that's a good sign |
| 04:27.13 | Agouti | I wish you could have turrets on a unit controlled by different people |
| 04:27.18 | Skittles | lol |
| 04:27.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster PassivePicasso (~Twiner@c-24-218-116-235.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) |
| 04:27.22 | Skittles | Not hard to do that. |
| 04:27.26 | Agouti | really? |
| 04:27.28 | Agouti | as in |
| 04:27.29 | PassivePicasso | so |
| 04:27.30 | Skittles | Already got my idea for my next map yesterday tho |
| 04:27.34 | Agouti | maiun shell only controllable by 1 |
| 04:27.36 | PassivePicasso | when can I use the awesome new features in 2.0 |
| 04:27.39 | PassivePicasso | err 1.2 |
| 04:27.44 | Agouti | each turret only controllable by 1 |
| 04:27.45 | Agouti | etc? |
| 04:27.48 | Agouti | if so TELL TELL TELL |
| 04:27.49 | Skittles | when blizz relesaes it |
| 04:27.53 | JManV | well, the pokeballs would obviously be gravitron beams |
| 04:28.13 | PassivePicasso | I'm waiting for the release so I can make my diablo-like rogue-like map |
| 04:28.14 | Skittles | lol |
| 04:28.20 | Agouti | SKITTLES TELL ME HOW! |
| 04:28.22 | Agouti | or |
| 04:28.23 | Skittles | start on it now, finish it later. |
| 04:28.30 | Skittles | not even srue what your question is |
| 04:28.38 | Agouti | or you were talking to someone else |
| 04:28.39 | PassivePicasso | I already started it and gave up when helral beat me in making a random dungeon generator :( |
| 04:28.42 | Agouti | way to build up my hopes |
| 04:28.50 | Skittles | Oh I was reffering to it no being hard to spark my imagination |
| 04:28.52 | PassivePicasso | and he started after I did |
| 04:28.55 | Skittles | but no, yours isn't hard either |
| 04:29.08 | Agouti | i repeat my earlier rantings |
| 04:29.09 | Agouti | tell tell |
| 04:29.27 | Skittles | basically just move the unit as fast as you can to where the new unit is |
| 04:29.29 | Skittles | and wahla |
| 04:29.38 | Agouti | ew, spose |
| 04:29.39 | Skittles | and yes, it more or less looks 100% attached |
| 04:29.45 | Agouti | hmm |
| 04:29.49 | Skittles | it's not as laggy as it was on wc3 |
| 04:29.51 | Agouti | ah well if it works it works |
| 04:30.00 | Agouti | I just assumed you couldn't do that nicely |
| 04:30.07 | Agouti | eHug <3 |
| 04:30.08 | Skittles | tho now and then you get some delay, from battle net |
| 04:32.01 | Agouti | might be able to set up the units so the lag doesn't look out of place |
| 04:32.12 | Agouti | if they are orbiting, or something |
| 04:32.15 | Agouti | instead of a hardpoint |
| 04:32.23 | Skittles | sure |
| 04:32.31 | Skittles | are you na? |
| 04:32.39 | Agouti | I play on NA |
| 04:32.42 | Agouti | I am in aus |
| 04:32.46 | Skittles | who cares na it is |
| 04:32.51 | Skittles | log on and ill show u my old map |
| 04:33.06 | Skittles | ahh a update |
| 04:33.16 | Agouti | patch is out? |
| 04:33.23 | Skittles | says tools update |
| 04:34.02 | Agouti | o well I'll update |
| 04:34.20 | Skittles | k |
| 04:34.34 | Skittles | character code? |
| 04:34.34 | Agouti | dw bout showing me your map if you are busy |
| 04:34.37 | Agouti | that is a ways away |
| 04:34.46 | Agouti | got bugs and other such stuff atm |
| 04:35.03 | Skittles | dw? |
| 04:35.13 | Agouti | don't worry* |
| 04:35.27 | Skittles | eh nah im bored atm anyway |
| 04:35.31 | Skittles | already had editor closed |
| 04:36.04 | Agouti | agouti#653 |
| 04:36.08 | Agouti | add + invite |
| 04:36.20 | Skittles | k |
| 04:37.08 | Vesuvius | haha |
| 04:37.14 | Vesuvius | finally got this working |
| 04:37.22 | Vesuvius | pylons now require a power field to power up |
| 04:37.27 | Vesuvius | :) |
| 04:37.47 | Vesuvius | so they don't provide a power field unless they're powered |
| 04:38.01 | Vesuvius | now i just need to make it so it chains back to a power generator |
| 04:38.08 | Shawn|Rawr | where is progammer? |
| 04:38.09 | Vesuvius | and pylons can be like power lines |
| 04:38.10 | Vesuvius | :) |
| 04:38.16 | XenoX101 | so there's a pylon pylon to power a pylon which powers a structure |
| 04:38.24 | Shawn|Rawr | rawr |
| 04:38.33 | XenoX101 | you could then make a pylon pylon pylon to power pylon pylons which then powers pylons that power a structure |
| 04:38.44 | Vesuvius | yes :P |
| 04:38.56 | XenoX101 | did I mention pylons? |
| 04:38.58 | Vesuvius | i need ot make it so when they cut off they don't keep powering themselves though :/ |
| 04:39.25 | XenoX101 | on destroy - search area - depower? |
| 04:39.34 | XenoX101 | or rather |
| 04:40.16 | XenoX101 | make each structure have a power buff that increases per powering pylon |
| 04:40.21 | Vesuvius | gah i'm an idiot |
| 04:40.29 | XenoX101 | and then on destroy - search area - power buff - 1? |
| 04:40.33 | XenoX101 | power buff -1* |
| 04:40.33 | Vesuvius | i just laid down some photons |
| 04:40.40 | Vesuvius | to test if a pylon can power itself |
| 04:40.43 | XenoX101 | then when power buff = 0, depower? |
| 04:40.44 | Vesuvius | just to be sure |
| 04:40.47 | Vesuvius | forgot to power the photons |
| 04:40.53 | Vesuvius | so i dropped a pylon to power them |
| 04:40.57 | Vesuvius | but that pylon had no power |
| 04:40.59 | Vesuvius | ... |
| 04:41.04 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 04:41.19 | Vesuvius | total fail |
| 04:41.23 | XenoX101 | I think something like a power variable would be how SC2 code works as well |
| 04:41.45 | XenoX101 | where each pylon increases power value of a building, and subsequently decreases it when it is destroyed |
| 04:42.25 | XenoX101 | at least that seems most logical to me |
| 04:42.43 | Vesuvius | unfortunately, it sets a power level in a radius |
| 04:42.51 | Vesuvius | 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 |
| 04:43.10 | Vesuvius | so anything in that radius is level 1 |
| 04:43.33 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 04:43.39 | XenoX101 | that seems unnecessarily complicated |
| 04:43.51 | Vesuvius | it's annoying |
| 04:44.45 | Vesuvius | if i have a minimumthreshold before a pylon powers itself |
| 04:45.10 | Vesuvius | then as soon as that pylong goes on it has to provide that threshold to power the next pylon |
| 04:45.27 | Vesuvius | which means if it gets cut off, it's self sustaining |
| 04:45.56 | Shawn|Rawr | The editor wasn't updated.. |
| 04:45.57 | Agouti | I like that quite a bit skittles |
| 04:46.03 | Agouti | very fancy |
| 04:46.04 | Shawn|Rawr | I wonder what these tools are |
| 04:46.12 | Skittles | mmhmm |
| 04:46.19 | Vesuvius | editor wasnt updated? |
| 04:46.22 | Vesuvius | did we get a patch? |
| 04:46.22 | Agouti | xfire it to me if you want |
| 04:46.40 | Skittles | we did, but it was tools only |
| 04:46.47 | Skittles | i think that's for blizzard only |
| 04:46.57 | Skittles | like private test server i think is back up now |
| 04:47.04 | XenoX101 | its only patch 1.1.3 |
| 04:47.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster poiuy_qwert (~poiuy_qwe@bas5-toronto47-2925109240.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 04:47.44 | Shawn|Rawr | Right.. I think the patch was for PTR |
| 04:47.50 | Shawn|Rawr | No changes to ediotr |
| 04:47.55 | Shawn|Rawr | editor* |
| 04:48.31 | Vesuvius | ok |
| 04:48.32 | Shawn|Rawr | They do seem adamant about resolving the fps issues on some computers though |
| 04:48.37 | Vesuvius | so xenox |
| 04:48.40 | Vesuvius | how does this sound |
| 04:48.44 | Vesuvius | my main power structure |
| 04:48.49 | Vesuvius | sends out a periodic buff in the power radius |
| 04:48.53 | Vesuvius | when the buff activates |
| 04:48.54 | Shawn|Rawr | PTR has an update too |
| 04:49.27 | Vesuvius | it then sends out the same buff from its position |
| 04:49.38 | Vesuvius | thus everything in the chain gets the buff |
| 04:49.48 | Vesuvius | and when the buff isn't refreshed, it just expires |
| 04:49.52 | Vesuvius | and they go unpowered |
| 04:50.38 | XenoX101 | sounds good |
| 04:50.54 | XenoX101 | as long as you dont run into any slowdown issues |
| 04:50.56 | Vesuvius | and the nice thing is i can ditch this stupid system i set up to make the pylons power donw |
| 04:50.56 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 04:51.05 | Vesuvius | err not power down |
| 04:51.10 | Vesuvius | but not insta power themselve |
| 04:51.12 | Vesuvius | themselves |
| 04:51.22 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 04:51.32 | Vesuvius | that was also a periodic effect :P |
| 04:51.33 | Skittles | whoa |
| 04:51.39 | Skittles | now i want to make a pylon power up |
| 04:51.46 | Shawn|Rawr | I think I just got a crap load of editor stuff |
| 04:51.47 | Skittles | like increase hue periodically |
| 04:51.48 | Skittles | lol |
| 04:52.06 | Shawn|Rawr | I think i saw some new shapes in there |
| 04:52.28 | Shawn|Rawr | and some more doodads maybe |
| 04:52.34 | Skittles | wish they would stop adding that nasty texture to the shapes |
| 04:52.34 | XenoX101 | liar |
| 04:52.37 | XenoX101 | stop teasing |
| 04:52.45 | Shawn|Rawr | Serious. Open the PTR |
| 04:52.54 | XenoX101 | is there a PTR editor? |
| 04:53.01 | Skittles | i don't think so..? |
| 04:53.21 | Shawn|Rawr | No, but it updates still |
| 04:54.14 | Shawn|Rawr | I was just looking at the thing as it was updating.. I might be wrong since it was going so fast |
| 04:54.34 | Skittles | u there agouti? |
| 04:56.33 | Vesuvius | gah |
| 04:56.41 | Skittles | rar |
| 04:56.45 | Vesuvius | the way they "fixed" the chats |
| 04:56.54 | Skittles | hmm? |
| 04:56.54 | Vesuvius | is to make it cut off in 3 messages per something like 10s |
| 04:56.57 | Vesuvius | instead of 20 |
| 04:57.01 | Vesuvius | it's still a 3 message cut off |
| 04:57.04 | Vesuvius | unbelievable.. |
| 04:57.08 | Skittles | lol |
| 04:57.17 | Skittles | I could type a paragraph in 10 seconds |
| 04:57.52 | Shawn|Rawr | The new pop system is up.. was it there before? |
| 04:57.59 | Skittles | probably |
| 04:58.05 | Skittles | how else would people had known about it |
| 04:58.06 | Vesuvius | in the ptr yes |
| 04:58.11 | Skittles | or do u mean on none ptr? |
| 04:58.27 | Agouti | is there a way to do an event like "Any unit of type [unit type] uses ability"? without going via Any unit uses Any Ability, conditions, unit type = [type] ? |
| 04:58.29 | Shawn|Rawr | PTR |
| 04:58.43 | Shawn|Rawr | I haven't looked at it much until now |
| 04:58.52 | Skittles | agouti |
| 04:58.55 | Skittles | check pms |
| 04:58.59 | Skittles | on chat |
| 04:59.06 | Skittles | top is a box with my name on it |
| 04:59.14 | Shawn|Rawr | Still no search bar |
| 04:59.23 | Skittles | wtf is with that? |
| 04:59.26 | Agouti | ah, thanks skittles |
| 04:59.35 | Skittles | search bars is a necessity |
| 04:59.50 | Agouti | er, still only a search bar on create? |
| 04:59.55 | Agouti | wot dah fook |
| 05:00.03 | Agouti | WOH |
| 05:00.09 | Agouti | Thunder and lightning |
| 05:00.13 | Agouti | very very frightning |
| 05:00.29 | Agouti | if I disappear you all know why ^_^ |
| 05:00.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Was the Extreme graphics option there before? |
| 05:01.02 | Shawn|Rawr | I want to see what that is like |
| 05:01.25 | XenoX101 | Agouti, isn't lighening awesome |
| 05:01.37 | XenoX101 | Shawn, the difference is so small it is virtually unnoticeable |
| 05:01.38 | Skittles | idk if that was in the ptr or not but in sc2 ultra is the top |
| 05:02.20 | XenoX101 | well not virtually, more like you would need a day with a magnifying glass and a number of screenshots to notice the difference |
| 05:02.25 | Agouti | actually i'm going to shut down and unplug |
| 05:02.28 | Agouti | that is a huge storm |
| 05:02.29 | Agouti | seeyas |
| 05:02.39 | Skittles | lol |
| 05:02.42 | XenoX101 | damn |
| 05:02.45 | Skittles | who shuts down cause of a storm? |
| 05:02.55 | XenoX101 | if you have an expensive rig |
| 05:03.00 | XenoX101 | and no power surge thing |
| 05:03.01 | Skittles | Not like your computer will get hit, maybe the plug in, but plug ins are cheap |
| 05:03.20 | XenoX101 | it can fry your comp |
| 05:03.30 | Skittles | Isn't a power surge thing a must? Kinda hard to have 10 plugs for the computer otherwise |
| 05:03.40 | XenoX101 | no, most dont have them |
| 05:03.54 | Skittles | oh that's weird. |
| 05:03.55 | XenoX101 | they are still by and large the exception to the rule |
| 05:04.24 | JManV | cuz regular power strips are super cheap |
| 05:04.25 | Skittles | if you've got a expenseive rig, you should have one at least tho |
| 05:04.35 | XenoX101 | yeah of course |
| 05:04.36 | XenoX101 | I should get one |
| 05:04.48 | Vesuvius | oh nice there are different types of power source |
| 05:04.48 | Skittles | i think regular power strips are power surges too tho? |
| 05:04.52 | Vesuvius | even better |
| 05:05.12 | Skittles | yeah my computer runs off of gas. |
| 05:05.20 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 05:05.25 | Vesuvius | i meant for powering pylons |
| 05:05.28 | Skittles | lol |
| 05:05.29 | JManV | that seems bad |
| 05:05.39 | Skittles | aren't pylons the power source tho? |
| 05:05.52 | Skittles | Well, it smells sometimes, but it sure does get the job done. |
| 05:06.13 | Skittles | But I wonder if there's a computer out there that converts the heat the computer puts off as energy @.@ |
| 05:06.15 | Skittles | brb |
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| 05:07.17 | Demalii | ~seen currydevil |
| 05:07.25 | purl | currydevil <Currydevil@75-142-21-134.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 8d 20h 39m 7s ago, saying: 'Hel, I think you should fix my missile.'. |
| 05:07.29 | Vesuvius | i want pylons to be power lines :P |
| 05:07.38 | JManV | we took the dead man in sheets... to the river! |
| 05:07.48 | Skittles | back |
| 05:09.26 | Shawn|Rawr | front |
| 05:09.37 | Skittles | lalala |
| 05:09.56 | Shawn|Rawr | 1@1@1@ |
| 05:10.00 | JManV | hmmm |
| 05:10.06 | JManV | this isn't working |
| 05:10.16 | Skittles | hmm |
| 05:10.20 | Skittles | +m |
| 05:10.25 | Skittles | =hmmm |
| 05:10.34 | Skittles | It's that simple. |
| 05:10.36 | Skittles | =D |
| 05:10.42 | JManV | is it really? |
| 05:11.03 | JManV | it is really just an extra "m", or is it so much more? |
| 05:11.05 | Skittles | idk |
| 05:11.27 | Skittles | Well no, i'm pretty sure it's just a needed m to make a hmmm rather than hmm |
| 05:11.38 | Skittles | Either way, what's your issue? |
| 05:11.42 | JManV | but think of how that m changes the word |
| 05:11.49 | JManV | they mean two entirely different things |
| 05:11.57 | JManV | that are incredibly similar |
| 05:12.00 | JManV | and basically the same |
| 05:12.09 | JManV | but still! |
| 05:12.23 | JManV | don't underestimate the m! |
| 05:12.41 | JManV | he's tired of being taken for granite! |
| 05:12.56 | JManV | but i digest |
| 05:13.07 | Skittles | anyway |
| 05:13.11 | Skittles | I've got to go. |
| 05:13.18 | Skittles | I'll see you guys tomorrow. |
| 05:13.27 | Skittles | Maybe. |
| 05:13.27 | JManV | how will we taste the rainbow? |
| 05:13.31 | Skittles | Hmm+m |
| 05:13.33 | Shawn|Rawr | With your mouth.. |
| 05:13.35 | Skittles | TASTE IT! |
| 05:13.37 | Skittles | RAWR |
| 05:13.38 | Skittles | lol |
| 05:13.40 | Skittles | gtg |
| 05:14.55 | JManV | must have new psych! |
| 05:16.12 | JManV | i guess i could get the SD version |
| 05:16.27 | JManV | cable is for people |
| 05:18.31 | JManV | man, i thought it was 3am... its only midnight |
| 05:18.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Lucky you |
| 05:19.13 | JManV | what time is it there? |
| 05:20.04 | XenoX101 | I just had an awesome idea for a map |
| 05:20.10 | JManV | no! |
| 05:20.16 | JManV | oh... alright |
| 05:21.12 | Shawn|Rawr | 9pm |
| 05:21.23 | JManV | west cost? |
| 05:21.26 | JManV | coast |
| 05:22.09 | JManV | so what was your awesome idea? |
| 05:22.10 | Shawn|Rawr | Las VEgas |
| 05:22.11 | JManV | tell me now! |
| 05:22.18 | JManV | ah vegas |
| 05:22.43 | JManV | i lost $62 in vegas |
| 05:22.49 | JManV | i'm a huge gambler... ;) |
| 05:23.13 | JManV | almost had to cash in m' peg leg |
| 05:23.28 | JManV | ok, only the 62 dollars part happened |
| 05:23.58 | Shawn|Rawr | I want $62 |
| 05:24.05 | XenoX101 | does anyone here know anything about map lighting? |
| 05:24.38 | JManV | i know it exists |
| 05:24.47 | XenoX101 | mm |
| 05:24.49 | Shawn|Rawr | I know how to press L |
| 05:24.53 | JManV | but don't quote me on that |
| 05:25.13 | Shawn|Rawr | I also know you need to be on High graphics to notice it |
| 05:25.47 | XenoX101 | is it really that ignored a feature? |
| 05:26.00 | JManV | no |
| 05:26.05 | JManV | i just haven't had cause |
| 05:26.15 | JManV | i wanted a brightly lit map |
| 05:26.17 | XenoX101 | but it affects every visual |
| 05:26.22 | XenoX101 | every single one |
| 05:26.47 | XenoX101 | and not just slightly, dramatically |
| 05:26.49 | Shawn|Rawr | i can barely play on low so my visuals suck no matter what |
| 05:26.55 | XenoX101 | oh |
| 05:27.41 | JManV | i may very well use it, i just ahven't et |
| 05:27.44 | JManV | wow |
| 05:29.38 | XenoX101 | and there are like 500,000 preset light sets |
| 05:29.53 | JManV | that's a couple |
| 05:30.35 | JManV | hmmm |
| 05:30.58 | XenoX101 | lol the 'launch game' function in the lighting window |
| 05:31.09 | XenoX101 | it launches the game alright |
| 05:31.16 | XenoX101 | without your map, just normally |
| 05:31.25 | XenoX101 | "Feel like playing SC2?" |
| 05:31.30 | XenoX101 | -.- |
| 05:35.12 | XenoX101 | gotta say this lighting feature is pretty fun to use |
| 05:35.16 | XenoX101 | albeit terribly confusing |
| 05:43.29 | XenoX101 | you can change lighting with triggers yeah? |
| 05:43.50 | Dogmai | yes |
| 05:43.53 | Dogmai | but it becomes a bitch |
| 05:43.58 | Dogmai | because there is no graduation |
| 05:44.01 | Dogmai | its a sudden change |
| 05:44.14 | Dogmai | if you want to do a nice gradient light change then be warned, its nasty |
| 05:44.32 | XenoX101 | surely you could run a for loop or something? |
| 05:45.33 | Dogmai | indeed |
| 05:45.42 | Dogmai | for my map its 4mb of triggers |
| 05:45.51 | Dogmai | ugh, or 8mb of triggers |
| 05:45.55 | Dogmai | 8mb uncompressed |
| 05:45.59 | Dogmai | just for the lighting system |
| 05:46.02 | XenoX101 | :( |
| 05:46.05 | Dogmai | because its all done manunally |
| 05:47.29 | Dogmai | um |
| 05:47.49 | Dogmai | you cant edit daytime values with integers |
| 05:47.53 | Dogmai | so loops become pointless |
| 05:48.00 | Dogmai | because you cannot put it into an equation |
| 05:48.08 | Dogmai | it all needs to be done manually |
| 05:48.15 | XenoX101 | rrr |
| 05:48.33 | Dogmai | but the light system is easy enough |
| 05:48.42 | Dogmai | if you have ever done photography or studio work |
| 05:48.48 | Dogmai | its exactly the same |
| 05:49.10 | XenoX101 | holy shit, you can add multiple lights |
| 05:49.17 | XenoX101 | my god I'm going to be here all day |
| 05:49.37 | XenoX101 | really? exactly the same? |
| 05:50.10 | Dogmai | yes |
| 05:50.12 | Dogmai | 3 |
| 05:50.15 | Dogmai | your main |
| 05:50.17 | Dogmai | your fill |
| 05:50.20 | Dogmai | and your back light |
| 05:50.31 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.51 | XenoX101 | no but you can have |
| 05:50.52 | Dogmai | for day time its best if your main is bottom left / |
| 05:50.55 | XenoX101 | multiple lights |
| 05:50.59 | XenoX101 | as in |
| 05:51.01 | Dogmai | oh |
| 05:51.03 | Dogmai | yes |
| 05:51.03 | XenoX101 | multiple mains, fills and backlights |
| 05:51.11 | XenoX101 | screw that with a fork |
| 05:51.18 | Dogmai | for night time its best if its top right |
| 05:52.02 | XenoX101 | fill & back only affect cliffs, peh |
| 05:52.25 | XenoX101 | oh wait and some objects |
| 05:53.13 | XenoX101 | I named my lightset in a way thats best reflective of my feelings towards the lighting system |
| 05:53.15 | XenoX101 | "AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!" |
| 05:55.43 | XenoX101 | I'm so lost I could invent a tv show of the same name |
| 05:56.18 | JManV | w00t |
| 06:00.33 | XenoX101 | ok I've figured out an issue with the lighting system |
| 06:01.38 | XenoX101 | the direction of light almost always favours one side or another of a hilly map, unless you greatly reduce its effect |
| 06:01.55 | XenoX101 | so one or more players are very likely to be 'left in the dark' quite literally |
| 06:02.01 | XenoX101 | moreso than the others |
| 06:03.06 | XenoX101 | I guess this means you are forced to use it as a subtle effect rather than a harsh one |
| 06:03.23 | XenoX101 | if you care about balance that is |
| 06:04.02 | XenoX101 | unless.. you use multiple lights, but eh |
| 06:05.15 | XenoX101 | does nobody else care about lighting here but me? come on people! ;p |
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| 06:12.14 | Agouti | AAAAAAHM BACK |
| 06:12.21 | Agouti | bows |
| 06:12.23 | XenoX101 | hi Agouti |
| 06:12.25 | Agouti | thank you, thank you |
| 06:12.27 | XenoX101 | nobody here cares about lighting |
| 06:12.31 | Agouti | aw :( |
| 06:12.37 | Agouti | but |
| 06:12.42 | Agouti | lighting is puuuurty |
| 06:12.42 | Agouti | D: |
| 06:12.49 | XenoX101 | indeed |
| 06:12.56 | XenoX101 | I was talking just before about how |
| 06:13.02 | XenoX101 | it is inherently imba |
| 06:13.07 | XenoX101 | unless you add more than one light |
| 06:13.18 | Agouti | heh |
| 06:13.18 | XenoX101 | cause the lights are positioned to favour one or the other player |
| 06:13.38 | Agouti | wee-ll |
| 06:13.52 | Agouti | dunno aboout imba, unit bars make everything obvious |
| 06:13.58 | Agouti | but if something is not well lit |
| 06:13.59 | Agouti | then yes |
| 06:14.44 | XenoX101 | unit bars dont necessarily show the size of the unit though, or its position |
| 06:14.48 | XenoX101 | they kind of hover |
| 06:14.52 | Shawn|Rawr | Or if you knock out all the lights in one base and make it too bright to see in the other |
| 06:15.13 | XenoX101 | that would be cool |
| 06:15.14 | Agouti | so yes, lighting is abusable if you are a silly map maker |
| 06:15.18 | Agouti | glad thats established :P |
| 06:16.09 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 06:16.14 | Demalii | hmm is there a detailed "tools update notes?" |
| 06:16.36 | XenoX101 | I think they went overkill on the lighting system too, Dogmai was telling me about how its 'similar to photography or studio work' |
| 06:16.47 | Agouti | O_o |
| 06:17.11 | XenoX101 | sif many SC2 mapmaker have any darn clue about 'main, fill and back' lights |
| 06:17.20 | XenoX101 | and 'specular and diffuse lighting' |
| 06:17.34 | Dogmai | ugh |
| 06:17.36 | Dogmai | i do |
| 06:17.38 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 06:17.42 | XenoX101 | you and who else? lol |
| 06:17.48 | Agouti | name 3 friends |
| 06:17.49 | Agouti | :P |
| 06:17.53 | XenoX101 | these are not everyday terms |
| 06:17.53 | Dogmai | yeah well there can only be one king of the pros in each chatroom |
| 06:18.01 | Dogmai | i didnt want it, but it fell in my lap by default |
| 06:18.04 | Agouti | oh? where is he hen |
| 06:18.06 | Dogmai | cause no one else comes close |
| 06:18.08 | Dogmai | :P |
| 06:18.20 | XenoX101 | and the worst part is, there is global, terrain AND point lighting settings |
| 06:18.30 | XenoX101 | so the diffuse property is split among all three |
| 06:18.32 | Agouti | you can't handle the powa |
| 06:18.33 | XenoX101 | so is specular |
| 06:18.43 | Agouti | it's spec-tac-ular |
| 06:18.47 | Agouti | hurr hurr |
| 06:19.12 | XenoX101 | and I'm not even going to start on occlusion |
| 06:19.18 | XenoX101 | what the hell is occlusion anyway? |
| 06:19.42 | Agouti | Occlusion (dentistry), the manner in which the upper and lower teeth come together when the mouth is closed |
| 06:19.43 | XenoX101 | there's a whole tab devoted to it, with 8 sliders |
| 06:19.55 | XenoX101 | err.. I'm not sure that definition applies here |
| 06:20.03 | XenoX101 | maybe its an upgrade for zerg? XD |
| 06:20.05 | Agouti | hmm |
| 06:20.06 | Agouti | Occlusion effect, an audio phenomenon that occurs when one closes the opening into the ear canal and the loudness of low pitched sounds increases |
| 06:20.06 | Agouti | ? |
| 06:20.17 | XenoX101 | .. |
| 06:20.19 | Agouti | Occlusion miliaria, a skin condition that is accompanied by anhidrosis and increased susceptibility to heat |
| 06:20.38 | XenoX101 | Blizzard, plz simplify editor k thx, signed XenoX |
| 06:20.47 | Agouti | if you want the real definition |
| 06:21.03 | Agouti | ambient occlusion is surfaces lit by light bouncing off of other surfaces |
| 06:21.39 | XenoX101 | AS IF there are even enough 'reflective surfaces' in sc2 to account for occlusion |
| 06:21.42 | Agouti | like if it didn't exist, opening a window during the day would result in a bright lit square on the floor and everything else black |
| 06:21.48 | Dogmai | Xenox, plz upgrade ur brain to the next available size, kthx, signed blizz |
| 06:22.00 | Agouti | actually, EVERY surface reflects light, |
| 06:22.11 | Agouti | let me wiki it |
| 06:22.13 | XenoX101 | let me rephrase |
| 06:22.13 | Agouti | they will have pictures |
| 06:22.14 | Dogmai | of course |
| 06:22.18 | Dogmai | if it does not reflect light |
| 06:22.20 | Agouti | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambient_occlusion |
| 06:22.22 | Dogmai | you cannot see it |
| 06:22.23 | Agouti | there |
| 06:22.23 | Dogmai | obviously |
| 06:22.31 | Agouti | not in computers |
| 06:22.31 | XenoX101 | as if there are enough identifiable instances of occlusion in SC2 that altering it would make any real difference |
| 06:22.38 | Dogmai | see, when i run into the girls changerooms invisible |
| 06:22.40 | XenoX101 | to mapmakers at least |
| 06:22.42 | Agouti | they obviously felt there was |
| 06:22.43 | Dogmai | they cant see me because i dont reflect light |
| 06:23.05 | Agouti | ambient occlusion would make a difference with inter-model reflections |
| 06:23.10 | XenoX101 | I can just imagine a mapmaker going, "Oh dude, lets make that goliath light up the room by bumping up occlusion!" |
| 06:23.15 | XenoX101 | would that ever happen? NO! |
| 06:23.17 | Agouti | it's for models |
| 06:23.20 | Agouti | I would imagine |
| 06:23.26 | Agouti | rather than for terrain |
| 06:23.40 | Agouti | so if a light is shining on one part of the model, the rest lights up a bit |
| 06:23.59 | Dogmai | its actually really handy for night scenes mate |
| 06:24.10 | Agouti | the little light plant things on xel naga caverns always made stuff look a bit weird because of a lack of occlusion |
| 06:24.16 | Dogmai | omfg <3 spectular highlights |
| 06:24.17 | XenoX101 | its for my balls, so that blizz employees can see them as they dwindle ominously above their heads |
| 06:24.31 | Agouti | ofc |
| 06:24.36 | Agouti | isn't that in the patch notes? |
| 06:24.40 | XenoX101 | waiting to be gorged |
| 06:24.52 | Agouti | *smothered |
| 06:24.57 | XenoX101 | either way |
| 06:25.00 | Agouti | like a giant meat blanket |
| 06:25.15 | XenoX101 | thats got goosebumps |
| 06:25.16 | Agouti | or meat pillow |
| 06:25.21 | Agouti | and hairs |
| 06:25.22 | Agouti | and sweat |
| 06:25.28 | Agouti | mmm, imagination |
| 06:25.33 | Agouti | what would we do without you |
| 06:26.11 | XenoX101 | see I took that to a point |
| 06:26.30 | XenoX101 | and then you just pushed it far beyond the extent that it would ever need to be pushed |
| 06:26.44 | XenoX101 | I don't think you should say anything again, ever |
| 06:27.17 | Agouti | :O |
| 06:27.23 | Agouti | :-| |
| 06:27.27 | Agouti | >:-| |
| 06:27.30 | Agouti | >:-( |
| 06:27.32 | XenoX101 | expressions are fine |
| 06:27.34 | XenoX101 | words are not |
| 06:27.38 | Agouti | D-:< |
| 06:27.52 | Agouti | crosses arms. |
| 06:28.11 | Dogmai | crosses swords with Agouti |
| 06:28.11 | XenoX101 | ok this is more annoying than talking |
| 06:28.22 | Agouti | dogmai! we can be dutch brothers |
| 06:28.39 | XenoX101 | how do I remove the black bars at the top and bottom of GE? I accidently hit someting |
| 06:28.41 | XenoX101 | something* |
| 06:28.49 | Agouti | unhit it? |
| 06:28.54 | Agouti | ctrl z? |
| 06:29.00 | XenoX101 | no thats not it |
| 06:29.37 | Agouti | well, whatever you hit, hitting it again would probably revert the change |
| 06:29.49 | XenoX101 | thats wonderful advice Agouti |
| 06:29.56 | Agouti | your welcom |
| 06:30.06 | XenoX101 | you have been of utmost help in freeing me from my dilemma |
| 06:30.16 | Agouti | Question: For event Unit - Any Unit uses Ability X |
| 06:30.16 | Vesuvius | anyone know how markers work? |
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| 06:30.27 | Dogmai | xenox |
| 06:30.29 | Agouti | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:30.31 | Dogmai | you turned on cinematic mode |
| 06:30.31 | onetwo | baby youre the one for me |
| 06:30.35 | Dogmai | its in view |
| 06:30.35 | onetwo | sixen |
| 06:30.42 | XenoX101 | Vesuvius, take off the cap to use them |
| 06:30.49 | Agouti | does that mean it will ignore commands from people with shared control? |
| 06:30.50 | Vesuvius | haha |
| 06:30.54 | Vesuvius | i meant in the editor :P |
| 06:31.01 | Vesuvius | the match and mismatch flags |
| 06:31.03 | Agouti | also: lol'd |
| 06:31.14 | Agouti | i see what you did thar |
| 06:31.23 | onetwo | wow irc is emptier today |
| 06:31.26 | onetwo | not even a scrollable list |
| 06:31.30 | XenoX101 | I'm not seeing it Dogmai |
| 06:31.37 | Vesuvius | is it that units that mismatch flags are excluded? |
| 06:31.43 | XenoX101 | I'M NOT SEEING IT >:( |
| 06:32.01 | Dogmai | aspect ratio > none |
| 06:32.10 | Dogmai | silly honey bun |
| 06:32.16 | XenoX101 | o |
| 06:32.22 | XenoX101 | right |
| 06:32.23 | XenoX101 | well |
| 06:32.28 | XenoX101 | lets just forget that ever happened now shall we? |
| 06:32.42 | Vesuvius | i have a recursive search area, i dont want it bouncing between targets |
| 06:32.44 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 06:32.53 | Dogmai | youse so sillah |
| 06:32.57 | XenoX101 | use validator |
| 06:33.24 | Vesuvius | figured the markers were designed for this sort of thing :P |
| 06:33.38 | XenoX101 | validator is better |
| 06:33.49 | Vesuvius | with a temporary buff? or is there a cleaner way? |
| 06:34.24 | Dogmai | alright, here is something to prove I am a noob and human like you guys :P |
| 06:34.32 | Dogmai | How do I change the amount of resources a unit can carry |
| 06:34.34 | XenoX101 | the validator should be along side the behaviour |
| 06:34.38 | XenoX101 | not with a new behaviour |
| 06:34.47 | XenoX101 | so the buff is whatever you currently have |
| 06:34.48 | Agouti | dogmai: I know this one |
| 06:34.49 | Agouti | sec |
| 06:34.59 | XenoX101 | the validator should be "unit compare behaviour count" |
| 06:35.15 | Vesuvius | ah so i let them stack |
| 06:35.23 | Vesuvius | and then make sure it's less than 2 |
| 06:35.29 | Vesuvius | thanks |
| 06:35.32 | XenoX101 | with "behaviour:<your behaviour>" "compare: not equal to (or whatever)" "2" |
| 06:35.35 | XenoX101 | np |
| 06:35.50 | XenoX101 | one of the - few - things I learnt about the data editor :/ |
| 06:35.55 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:35.57 | XenoX101 | or, within the data editor* |
| 06:36.11 | Dogmai | why does that only increase gas and not the mineral patches -_- |
| 06:36.44 | Agouti | FieldDark Templar - Gather |
| 06:36.44 | Agouti | Dark Templar - Gather |
| 06:36.45 | Agouti | -> Stats - Resource Amount Bonus(40|0|0|0) |
| 06:37.03 | Agouti | means 40 minerals with each harvest |
| 06:37.11 | Agouti | so it's under the gather ability |
| 06:37.31 | Dogmai | thats what I thought |
| 06:37.38 | Dogmai | but when I tried to change that with a catalog entry |
| 06:37.39 | Dogmai | no dice |
| 06:37.50 | Agouti | and a good trick: if you don't want the unit to have to return to a building to drop off, set the unit itself as a drop-off point |
| 06:38.34 | Agouti | it might be immutable |
| 06:38.44 | Agouti | can you just enable/disable abilities? |
| 06:38.51 | XenoX101 | my penis is immutable |
| 06:38.55 | XenoX101 | sorry |
| 06:38.55 | Agouti | if you only have a discrete number of amounts |
| 06:39.13 | Agouti | xen: does that mean it's unchangable? you can't go from soft to something else? |
| 06:39.16 | Agouti | bad luck champ :( |
| 06:39.25 | Agouti | I think they have nasal sprays for that sort of thing |
| 06:39.46 | XenoX101 | Agouti I think you should start using expressions again |
| 06:39.51 | Vesuvius | this is going to be so cool once it's working |
| 06:40.23 | Agouti | hey, you started it |
| 06:40.45 | XenoX101 | this is true, but I'm a law breaker, like neo or something |
| 06:40.52 | onetwo | he is the one |
| 06:40.54 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.59 | Dogmai | that should work right? |
| 06:41.04 | Dogmai | it doesnt -_- |
| 06:41.41 | Agouti | is that the correct syntax for an array> |
| 06:41.42 | Agouti | ? |
| 06:42.11 | XenoX101 | thats what I said to Xapti I think it was who was trying the same thing |
| 06:42.42 | Dogmai | yes |
| 06:42.47 | Dogmai | its the raw data |
| 06:42.52 | Dogmai | i just changed 0 to 10 |
| 06:43.04 | Dogmai | if i remove the ( ) it errors |
| 06:43.09 | Dogmai | so that has to be correct |
| 06:43.10 | XenoX101 | if you remove the " and "? |
| 06:43.14 | XenoX101 | or you cant |
| 06:43.28 | Dogmai | the " " is just because I copied and pasted the text from the editor |
| 06:43.31 | Dogmai | its not in the string |
| 06:43.44 | XenoX101 | and its meant to be a string right? |
| 06:43.55 | Dogmai | yep |
| 06:44.06 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 06:44.17 | Dogmai | its been stumping me for a few days |
| 06:44.39 | XenoX101 | thats what SHE said |
| 06:44.46 | XenoX101 | sorry |
| 06:45.25 | Agouti | I love a good stumping @__@ |
| 06:45.27 | Dogmai | someone is into amputee porn |
| 06:45.41 | Dogmai | i said stumping not jumping |
| 06:45.44 | Dogmai | humping |
| 06:45.46 | Dogmai | wow |
| 06:45.46 | Agouti | god |
| 06:45.47 | Dogmai | pwned myself |
| 06:46.02 | Agouti | *adds to list of phrases never to goole* |
| 06:46.04 | onetwo | yeah thats hot |
| 06:46.05 | Agouti | foofle* |
| 06:46.10 | Agouti | sldfjalsfjdlasfjkdas |
| 06:46.12 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 06:46.13 | Agouti | *google |
| 06:46.18 | Agouti | THERE |
| 06:46.20 | Agouti | suck it keyboard |
| 06:46.28 | XenoX101 | onetwo I love you |
| 06:46.37 | onetwo | ;D |
| 06:46.38 | Dogmai | i am thinking there is something wrong with the way i have written the array |
| 06:46.44 | Agouti | (as long as you are missing a limb) |
| 06:47.35 | XenoX101 | Dogmai, try writting in block rather than cursive |
| 06:47.54 | Dogmai | is that a bad joke or am I missing something |
| 06:48.02 | XenoX101 | no, no you aren't :( |
| 06:48.18 | XenoX101 | crawls into a corner |
| 06:48.24 | onetwo | yeah thats hot too |
| 06:48.26 | onetwo | keep going |
| 06:48.34 | XenoX101 | XD |
| 06:48.57 | XenoX101 | that shouldn't be as funny as it is |
| 06:49.31 | Dogmai | this doesnt work either |
| 06:49.33 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:49.41 | XenoX101 | Ok, so my lighting is done and my units look like they've all swallowed a kilo of plutonium |
| 06:50.24 | Agouti | it might just be immutable dogmai |
| 06:50.32 | Dogmai | no |
| 06:50.34 | Dogmai | its been done before |
| 06:50.35 | Agouti | if you only have a couple of values you want to set it to do |
| 06:50.41 | Agouti | just give it different abilities for each amount |
| 06:50.50 | Agouti | oh |
| 06:50.55 | Dogmai | well thats a way to do it |
| 06:51.18 | XenoX101 | Wow, that tutorial was right, sc2 bloom really -does- suck |
| 06:51.26 | onetwo | the investors wont like that news |
| 06:51.30 | onetwo | you better keep quiet |
| 06:51.50 | XenoX101 | hey, sucking can be quite profitable these days |
| 06:51.59 | Agouti | it's true |
| 06:52.21 | Agouti | big money |
| 06:52.26 | Agouti | short shifts |
| 06:52.30 | onetwo | bigger than the pet store biz |
| 06:52.54 | Xapti | oh cool there ere 3 merc ideas that blizzard didn't implemnt in WoL |
| 06:52.58 | XenoX101 | well I don't know about your shift.. |
| 06:53.21 | onetwo | WoL... wrath of lich? |
| 06:53.28 | onetwo | the retarded cousin to wrath of the lich king |
| 06:53.55 | XenoX101 | Xapti, that sounds like a parallel to "oh cool, there are 3 jokes that matt groening didn't think of in simpsons" |
| 06:54.01 | onetwo | does not condone the use of the word retarded. |
| 06:54.09 | onetwo | and is not associated with youtube.com/onetwosc |
| 06:54.20 | onetwo | gotta cover my legal bases |
| 06:54.30 | XenoX101 | I'll cover your base anytime onetwo <3 |
| 06:54.42 | onetwo | how about right after you round home plate |
| 06:54.45 | onetwo | baby |
| 06:55.05 | onetwo | no? |
| 06:55.06 | onetwo | k |
| 06:55.10 | onetwo | offer is gone |
| 06:55.30 | XenoX101 | no! wait! I was just mast--erfully map making! |
| 06:56.01 | onetwo | thats debatable |
| 06:56.05 | onetwo | master debatable |
| 06:56.19 | Xapti | anyone know how to make an ability's progress bar visible toother players? |
| 06:56.26 | XenoX101 | I knew someone who was a master debater once |
| 06:56.32 | XenoX101 | he was a cunt, never agreed on anything! |
| 06:57.07 | XenoX101 | am I allowed to use that word here? |
| 06:57.12 | XenoX101 | I feel so dirty |
| 06:57.17 | onetwo | already contacted fbi |
| 06:57.36 | XenoX101 | :O |
| 07:01.53 | XenoX101 | man this lighting |
| 07:02.01 | XenoX101 | easy to create, bloody hard to perfect |
| 07:02.05 | XenoX101 | taking forever to tweak it just right |
| 07:02.33 | XenoX101 | SPEAKING OF HARD |
| 07:02.36 | XenoX101 | no but seriously |
| 07:02.43 | onetwo | takes off shirt |
| 07:02.47 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:02.49 | Agouti | stop baiting eachother |
| 07:02.49 | onetwo | nvm |
| 07:02.52 | Agouti | MASTER |
| 07:02.54 | Agouti | BAITING |
| 07:02.58 | Agouti | k i'm done |
| 07:03.07 | XenoX101 | Ohh you jealous now Agouti? |
| 07:03.14 | Agouti | I wish I had a dutch brother |
| 07:03.20 | onetwo | that can be done |
| 07:03.22 | Dogmai | ohhhhhh |
| 07:03.24 | onetwo | wheres your mom |
| 07:03.34 | Sixen | I need to fix my damn computer |
| 07:03.35 | Sixen | >.> |
| 07:03.38 | Agouti | onetwo doesn't know what a dutch brother is? |
| 07:03.43 | Sixen | I don't even know what's wrong wit hti |
| 07:03.43 | Agouti | maybe is aus only term? |
| 07:03.49 | onetwo | maybe? |
| 07:03.51 | Dogmai | the way this other guy did it was that he stored your mineral amount in a variable every few seconds, if it was up, it gave you a bonus |
| 07:03.52 | onetwo | Sixen sup |
| 07:03.54 | onetwo | whats going on |
| 07:03.58 | Dogmai | he didnt change the catalog |
| 07:04.04 | Sixen | My computer died this morning. |
| 07:04.07 | XenoX101 | wtf is a dutch brother? |
| 07:04.10 | Sixen | I don't know why yet... either PS or Motherboard |
| 07:04.20 | Agouti | dutch brother is where you are both hanging onto your own memeber, but the other guy is moving your arm for you |
| 07:04.23 | Sixen | I really hope it's the PS... |
| 07:04.27 | onetwo | my computers been dieing lately during playing CS:S |
| 07:04.30 | onetwo | my solution |
| 07:04.32 | onetwo | open it |
| 07:04.33 | onetwo | dust |
| 07:04.35 | Sixen | It's just done. I can't even turn it on |
| 07:04.35 | onetwo | close |
| 07:04.38 | onetwo | and leave one side of case done |
| 07:04.40 | Sixen | It is open |
| 07:04.42 | onetwo | open* |
| 07:04.43 | Sixen | :P |
| 07:04.44 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:04.50 | onetwo | my comp has been fine ever since i left half open |
| 07:04.50 | Agouti | sixen: you know how to test a PSU? |
| 07:04.51 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:04.51 | Dogmai | then its PS |
| 07:04.51 | Sixen | I think my motherboard fried |
| 07:04.55 | XenoX101 | Some things are best left a mystery, damn you Agouti |
| 07:04.58 | Sixen | I don't have a tester, Agouti |
| 07:05.07 | Agouti | don't need a tester for some |
| 07:05.08 | Sixen | Unless there's another way without a PSU Tester? |
| 07:05.08 | onetwo | im not much of a hardware person though |
| 07:05.11 | Dogmai | no you can test it with a fan and a paperclip |
| 07:05.15 | Agouti | yup |
| 07:05.15 | Sixen | orly? |
| 07:05.19 | Dogmai | rly |
| 07:05.21 | Dogmai | srsly |
| 07:05.23 | Dogmai | rly |
| 07:05.23 | Agouti | paperclip from purple to black |
| 07:05.28 | onetwo | ill call the ambulance now... |
| 07:05.32 | Agouti | and the fan should turn on |
| 07:05.41 | Sixen | interesting... |
| 07:05.46 | XenoX101 | ahaha |
| 07:05.48 | Agouti | purple is the On wire |
| 07:05.49 | Dogmai | how old are you sixen |
| 07:05.51 | Dogmai | out of curiosity |
| 07:05.52 | Sixen | 20 |
| 07:05.53 | Agouti | MB grounds it to turn the PSU on |
| 07:06.03 | Dogmai | hits sixen over the head with a rubber chicken |
| 07:06.06 | Sixen | :( |
| 07:06.10 | Dogmai | you should know better :) thats the oldest trick in the book |
| 07:06.20 | Sixen | brb |
| 07:06.31 | Agouti | anyway google if you are unsire |
| 07:06.33 | XenoX101 | Sixen, do you have life insurance by any chance? |
| 07:06.35 | Agouti | *unsure even |
| 07:06.44 | Agouti | pfft PSU's are only 12v |
| 07:06.50 | Agouti | you can't hurt yourself |
| 07:06.51 | Agouti | well |
| 07:06.58 | Agouti | you could burn, if you heated it up enough |
| 07:07.03 | Agouti | but not electrocute |
| 07:07.05 | onetwo | yeah oldest trick in the book, disconnect wire coil on PSU, use your finger as a conductor, and turn it on.. if you die it works... easiest trick in book how could you guys not know it |
| 07:07.16 | onetwo | easiest trick and oldest one |
| 07:07.26 | Agouti | thats almost as good as licking a 9 volt battery to tell if it's flat |
| 07:07.30 | onetwo | its so easy rodrigo couldnt even make a thread whining about it |
| 07:07.35 | XenoX101 | rofl |
| 07:07.37 | Agouti | BAM |
| 07:07.47 | XenoX101 | HEY DOES ANYONE EVER OPEN THE DOOR FOR GIRLS HERE? |
| 07:07.51 | XenoX101 | YOU GUYS ARE DUMB LOLOLOL |
| 07:07.55 | onetwo | the door to my penis |
| 07:07.55 | Vesuvius | it's so weird that my set isn't working |
| 07:07.56 | onetwo | BAM |
| 07:08.09 | onetwo | hmm waht other bad jokes can i do |
| 07:08.13 | Agouti | I thought that was more a tent? |
| 07:08.14 | onetwo | bad and tasteless |
| 07:08.14 | Vesuvius | looks exactly like all the other working sets |
| 07:08.18 | Agouti | A MEAT TENT. |
| 07:08.23 | Vesuvius | :/ |
| 07:08.53 | Agouti | that just reminded of a distrubingly large number of dirty jokes I know |
| 07:09.06 | onetwo | so the jokes arent disturbing |
| 07:09.09 | onetwo | just the number you know |
| 07:09.11 | onetwo | go ahead then |
| 07:09.31 | Agouti | large number of disturbing dirty jokes* |
| 07:09.36 | Agouti | misworded, perhaps |
| 07:09.51 | Agouti | what do you call a prostitute with a runny nose? |
| 07:10.04 | XenoX101 | You know it's not the sun's magnetic field that makes earth rotate around it |
| 07:10.09 | XenoX101 | It's dick jokes |
| 07:10.10 | Agouti | full |
| 07:10.12 | XenoX101 | lots and lots of dick jokes |
| 07:10.15 | XenoX101 | its* |
| 07:10.23 | XenoX101 | It's* |
| 07:10.25 | XenoX101 | god damn english |
| 07:10.31 | Agouti | its* |
| 07:10.36 | Agouti | wait |
| 07:10.40 | Agouti | it's* |
| 07:10.42 | onetwo | next |
| 07:10.49 | Agouti | thought its' also works |
| 07:10.52 | XenoX101 | OH YOU DONT LIKE THAT ONETWO? |
| 07:11.00 | XenoX101 | HOW ABOUT THIS ONE, ONETWO IS A FAG |
| 07:11.04 | XenoX101 | HARHARHAR |
| 07:11.05 | onetwo | next |
| 07:11.05 | Agouti | what do eskimos and tupperware have in common? |
| 07:11.13 | Agouti | they both love a tight seal |
| 07:11.14 | XenoX101 | your mum |
| 07:11.25 | onetwo | next please |
| 07:11.28 | XenoX101 | actually, I think my answer was more accurate |
| 07:11.29 | Agouti | what do gays and ovens have in common? |
| 07:11.30 | XenoX101 | but nice try |
| 07:11.36 | Agouti | they both brown your meat |
| 07:11.54 | XenoX101 | thats awful |
| 07:11.54 | Agouti | what do gays call condoms? |
| 07:11.54 | Agouti | mudflaps |
| 07:11.58 | onetwo | lol wtf |
| 07:12.03 | XenoX101 | err |
| 07:12.13 | XenoX101 | What do you call a closet homosexual? |
| 07:12.17 | XenoX101 | Agou---oh hey! |
| 07:12.28 | Agouti | ooo i see what you did thar |
| 07:12.34 | Agouti | hurr hurr hurr |
| 07:12.39 | Agouti | fine! |
| 07:12.41 | Agouti | no more jokes |
| 07:12.47 | Agouti | *alt tabs to GE* |
| 07:13.04 | Dogmai | so this zergling, zealot and marine walk into a bar |
| 07:13.05 | XenoX101 | is GE short for gay erotica? |
| 07:13.12 | XenoX101 | I'm onto you Agouti |
| 07:13.20 | XenoX101 | and I don't mean that literally |
| 07:13.22 | XenoX101 | so dont get any ideas |
| 07:13.24 | Agouti | oh yes you do |
| 07:13.25 | onetwo | jesusaurus rex |
| 07:13.41 | Agouti | but don't think i'm openeing any doors for you |
| 07:13.55 | Agouti | BAM! MULTIJOKE |
| 07:14.02 | XenoX101 | THATS ALRIGHT, I DONT LIKE BEING CALLED STUPID OLOLOLOLOL |
| 07:14.23 | Agouti | inuendo? inYOURendo |
| 07:14.33 | XenoX101 | that was terrible |
| 07:14.38 | XenoX101 | why do you do this to me Agouti |
| 07:14.40 | Agouti | wait, that reminds me |
| 07:15.04 | XenoX101 | of what, your closet homosexuality? |
| 07:15.24 | XenoX101 | HOHO, I need new material |
| 07:15.44 | Agouti | oglaf.com/honor/ |
| 07:15.48 | Agouti | www.oglaf.com/honor/ |
| 07:15.50 | Agouti | w/e |
| 07:15.55 | onetwo | just like you morally bankrupted america? |
| 07:16.23 | Agouti | they did that themselves I think |
| 07:16.36 | Agouti | like some sort of morality implosion |
| 07:16.39 | Agouti | in slow motion |
| 07:16.44 | XenoX101 | so uh |
| 07:16.51 | XenoX101 | that was probably the most awkward thing I've seen all week |
| 07:17.06 | Agouti | probably |
| 07:17.09 | XenoX101 | thanks.. I think..? |
| 07:17.15 | Agouti | nah |
| 07:17.19 | Agouti | oglaf is awful |
| 07:17.44 | XenoX101 | I'm worried by your ability to make that comment |
| 07:17.50 | Dogmai | alright, why doesnt this work |
| 07:18.06 | XenoX101 | its ok though Agouti, ITS OK TO BE A HOMOSEXUAL |
| 07:18.23 | Agouti | nice to hear, though somewhate irrelevant |
| 07:18.36 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:18.58 | Agouti | aw comon dogmai, I thought that was some sort of witty joke wrapped in syntax |
| 07:18.59 | Dogmai | there is nothing wrong with that code damnit, it works for gas but not for minerals |
| 07:19.03 | Agouti | how disappointing |
| 07:19.17 | Dogmai | no ... i need to get work done today |
| 07:19.23 | Dogmai | that should work right |
| 07:19.33 | Dogmai | its one of the simpliest scripts you can write |
| 07:19.33 | Agouti | hmm |
| 07:19.36 | Agouti | I think so |
| 07:19.37 | Agouti | yes |
| 07:19.42 | XenoX101 | my map is so pretty |
| 07:19.43 | Dogmai | and its not fucken working |
| 07:19.48 | XenoX101 | so preeeetttyy |
| 07:19.58 | Agouti | aww |
| 07:20.17 | XenoX101 | I'll show you soon |
| 07:20.26 | XenoX101 | lighting is truly the most amazing feature |
| 07:20.28 | XenoX101 | ever |
| 07:20.52 | XenoX101 | you can wrap a turd in foil with this thing |
| 07:20.58 | XenoX101 | and make it look like a damn diamond |
| 07:21.49 | XenoX101 | (err, of course, I am not implying that my map is a turd) |
| 07:22.43 | Agouti | matter of opinion I think |
| 07:22.46 | Agouti | ooooooooooo |
| 07:23.03 | Agouti | ok, now I'm having issues |
| 07:23.27 | Agouti | Unit - Any Unit uses Dark Templar - Builder - Gather at Generic3 Execute stage (Ignore shared abilities) works |
| 07:23.30 | Agouti | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.31 | Agouti | does not |
| 07:25.28 | Agouti | oh, right |
| 07:25.42 | Agouti | gather is only marked as complete when you finish mining a patch, I think |
| 07:26.26 | Dogmai | when u return |
| 07:26.33 | Dogmai | and unload the resources |
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| 07:26.38 | Dogmai | its completed |
| 07:26.38 | Agouti | hmm, no idea why then |
| 07:26.56 | Agouti | any idea why that even isn't working? |
| 07:27.01 | Agouti | event* |
| 07:27.52 | Agouti | though I could just put it on Return Cargo - Execute |
| 07:27.55 | Agouti | I suppose |
| 07:27.59 | Agouti | that would be close |
| 07:28.25 | XenoX101 | hm thats odd, my lighting settings made the archon somewhat transparent |
| 07:28.37 | Dogmai | it does work |
| 07:28.45 | Dogmai | but you cannot reference resources |
| 07:29.02 | Dogmai | send a text message to all players a sa debug |
| 07:29.06 | Dogmai | to check if it works |
| 07:29.24 | Agouti | the trigger itself is fin |
| 07:29.26 | Agouti | fine* |
| 07:29.34 | Agouti | because if i change it to anything other than Complete |
| 07:29.35 | Agouti | it works |
| 07:29.39 | Agouti | but not in the way I want |
| 07:29.58 | Agouti | the step below Complete is Execute, and that will trigger when the unit begins executing the order |
| 07:30.03 | Agouti | like, as it's running there |
| 07:30.21 | Agouti | oh I see what you are saying |
| 07:30.27 | Agouti | the Triggering Unit could be wrong |
| 07:30.44 | onetwo | lol colbert |
| 07:31.04 | onetwo | "time's person of the year is mark zuckerberg... sorry julian assange, i guess you didn't violate enough people's privacy" |
| 07:31.12 | Agouti | hah |
| 07:31.54 | Agouti | nope, the event isn't firing at all |
| 07:32.03 | Agouti | that is bizzare |
| 07:32.07 | Agouti | it SHOULD work |
| 07:32.37 | XenoX101 | thats gold |
| 07:33.12 | Agouti | ah, it has to be |
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| 07:33.13 | Agouti | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.18 | XenoX101 | ok kids, lesson for today with lighting - exposure affects -everything-, especially effects like the archon's ball of energy, so if you want stuff to look normal but dark, darken the terrain some other way |
| 07:33.43 | XenoX101 | unless you're happy with seeing the archon's naked, virgin body |
| 07:33.47 | Agouti | is that because of how the archons effect works? |
| 07:33.48 | onetwo | thats hot |
| 07:34.04 | JManV | gotta agree |
| 07:34.06 | XenoX101 | yes, and likely how other effects work too (read: spells) |
| 07:34.13 | Agouti | like, it uses some sort of light saturation to achieve the opacity |
| 07:34.26 | JManV | mmm... naked archon |
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| 07:35.08 | Agouti | and I thought I was the sickest puppy on this server |
| 07:35.14 | XenoX101 | the downside to this is, exposure is very good at making a map dark & gloomy :( |
| 07:35.23 | Agouti | wait, archon is 2 templar melded right? |
| 07:35.26 | Agouti | that could get messy |
| 07:35.36 | Agouti | also: QQ about to dark archon |
| 07:35.41 | Agouti | they were awesome |
| 07:35.44 | Agouti | *no |
| 07:35.48 | onetwo | yeah and hot too |
| 07:35.54 | JManV | que? |
| 07:36.00 | JManV | what about dark archons/ |
| 07:36.07 | Agouti | though they might add them back in in the protoss expansion |
| 07:36.14 | Agouti | QQ ~ cry |
| 07:36.20 | Agouti | as in, ccomplain |
| 07:36.26 | JManV | yeah i got that |
| 07:36.27 | Dogmai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7_vUP0bH0g |
| 07:36.30 | JManV | oh |
| 07:36.32 | Agouti | *to=no |
| 07:36.34 | JManV | nvm |
| 07:36.35 | Agouti | ya |
| 07:37.09 | XenoX101 | also, the hue, saturation and lightness options SUCK, they affect EVERYTHING in very dramatic ways |
| 07:37.20 | XenoX101 | changing the hue for example will make all your units, spells, everything turn weird colours |
| 07:37.32 | onetwo | welcome to my world |
| 07:38.41 | Agouti | that is horrid dogmai |
| 07:38.46 | JManV | that's horrible |
| 07:38.55 | Dogmai | ... |
| 07:39.12 | onetwo | thats hot |
| 07:39.20 | Dogmai | ta ma de ni men |
| 07:39.37 | Dogmai | ni men bu zhi dao zhong guo wen |
| 07:39.46 | Dogmai | relax, its not racist |
| 07:39.48 | Dogmai | its funny |
| 07:40.09 | Agouti | http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e245/ASSAIL/gif_thats_racist.gif |
| 07:40.35 | Dogmai | lawl |
| 07:40.53 | Dogmai | you know its funny, we don't have that whole kfc, basketball, watermelon thing here |
| 07:41.05 | Agouti | for us it would be |
| 07:41.07 | Agouti | hmm |
| 07:41.31 | Agouti | something hard to fit into a gif |
| 07:41.32 | Agouti | anyway |
| 07:41.34 | XenoX101 | ok in spite of my findings about exposure, it seems to be the only way to make a map evenly dark |
| 07:41.41 | XenoX101 | :( |
| 07:41.43 | Agouti | aw |
| 07:41.57 | XenoX101 | guess I'll have to settle for nekkid archon |
| 07:42.34 | XenoX101 | actually you can do ok with only slightly lowering it |
| 07:42.38 | Dogmai | here |
| 07:42.42 | Dogmai | you guys want something not racist |
| 07:42.46 | Dogmai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGpVyaCA0Zc |
| 07:43.21 | XenoX101 | as funny as roadkill |
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| 07:45.42 | Agouti | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDocGfvYmBM |
| 07:45.48 | XenoX101 | ok I found another way to darken the map |
| 07:45.56 | XenoX101 | lower the ambient multiplier |
| 07:46.06 | XenoX101 | your welcome |
| 07:46.19 | Dogmai | obvsly :P |
| 07:46.24 | Dogmai | you could have asked |
| 07:46.28 | XenoX101 | ................ |
| 07:46.47 | XenoX101 | can someone hit Dogmai for me |
| 07:47.07 | Agouti | nah, but yiou can tap him if you want |
| 07:47.16 | XenoX101 | har har |
| 07:47.35 | XenoX101 | you both suck |
| 07:47.38 | XenoX101 | :( |
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| 07:48.50 | Xapti | is it possible to have the requirement of an ability that another ability is on cooldown? |
| 07:49.32 | Xapti | it seems like something that should be possible, but when it comes to just the execute requirements dialog, it seems pretty simple |
| 07:50.12 | Xapti | oh whoops i forgot there was a requirements object type.. let me look at that |
| 07:50.57 | Tordy | eac boy |
| 07:52.20 | XenoX101 | btw, specular and diffuse lighting are so closely linked their balls are touching |
| 07:52.29 | XenoX101 | cant have specular without diffuse |
| 07:53.00 | XenoX101 | dogmai, not a word |
| 07:53.29 | Dogmai | word dog |
| 07:55.06 | Xapti | ok so I looked at requirement objects |
| 07:55.17 | Xapti | I don't compeltely understand how requirement nodes work |
| 07:55.38 | Xapti | mostly the terminology used |
| 07:56.12 | XenoX101 | Well Xapti, when a man and a woman love each other very much |
| 07:56.15 | Agouti | onetwo: did you get your items sorted out? |
| 07:56.22 | onetwo | ? |
| 07:56.24 | Tordy | wow wwtf |
| 07:56.24 | Tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcPpVBPVfZk#t=35s |
| 07:56.28 | Tordy | this is too much |
| 07:56.28 | Agouti | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/3358-shop-item-need-help/ |
| 07:56.29 | Tordy | i like it |
| 07:56.45 | XenoX101 | what in the holy fuck |
| 07:57.10 | Xapti | I don't see an option for cooldown |
| 07:57.20 | Xapti | there's completed, queued, queued or better, etc. |
| 07:57.40 | Xapti | I'm starting to doubt it's possible |
| 07:58.00 | onetwo | dude that was like june |
| 07:58.12 | Agouti | I use what google gives me |
| 07:58.13 | JManV | maybe validators? |
| 07:58.22 | onetwo | the problem was my item classes on the container were not set in the inventory ability |
| 07:58.26 | onetwo | to be the same as the container itself |
| 07:58.32 | onetwo | for some reason you have to specificy it in both |
| 07:58.54 | Agouti | I don't really understand items and shop abilties :( |
| 07:59.02 | Agouti | might just have to poke around some more I guess |
| 07:59.15 | JManV | items suck |
| 07:59.25 | JManV | they were a total afterthought |
| 07:59.31 | JManV | and they were poorly implemented |
| 08:00.07 | onetwo | yeah, itll change with time hopefully |
| 08:00.16 | JManV | let's hope |
| 08:00.30 | Agouti | I'm really confused about the whole system |
| 08:00.37 | Agouti | if anyone has a good, not video tute handy |
| 08:01.02 | Agouti | I just want shop bought items that stack and get used by hero abilities |
| 08:01.23 | JManV | that's asking for a lot |
| 08:01.27 | onetwo | gl getting stacking going |
| 08:01.28 | onetwo | bud |
| 08:01.39 | Agouti | can't you use charges? |
| 08:01.39 | JManV | but do an sc2mapster search for "item utility library" |
| 08:01.41 | Agouti | or something |
| 08:01.43 | XenoX101 | I think I might write up a tutorial on lighting |
| 08:01.45 | JManV | that right there is your friend |
| 08:01.48 | XenoX101 | once I'm done with this |
| 08:01.51 | Agouti | thanks |
| 08:01.59 | XenoX101 | would anyone care for something like that? |
| 08:02.04 | XenoX101 | or would I be wasting my time |
| 08:02.11 | Agouti | mmm |
| 08:02.15 | Agouti | probably wasting I think |
| 08:02.22 | JManV | and i doubt, highly, that you can do it in data |
| 08:02.25 | Xapti | JmanV validators are for effects not abilities |
| 08:02.39 | JManV | validators can also be for behaviors |
| 08:02.44 | Xapti | well yeah |
| 08:02.49 | JManV | and behaviors can be checked for in requirements |
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| 08:03.04 | JManV | disable the behavior with the validator |
| 08:03.12 | JManV | when it's not in cooldown |
| 08:03.20 | JManV | and check for the behavior in the requirement |
| 08:03.30 | Xapti | oh i see what you mean |
| 08:03.38 | JManV | that's assuming you can do it with a validator |
| 08:03.43 | JManV | which i can't say for certain |
| 08:03.57 | JManV | but they tend to be pretty powerful |
| 08:04.23 | Xapti | so I need a validator to enable/disable the behavior.. |
| 08:05.28 | JManV | focus on the validator first |
| 08:05.29 | Dogmai | OFMG |
| 08:05.31 | Dogmai | I FINALLY FUCKEN DID IT |
| 08:05.34 | Dogmai | And it is so simple |
| 08:05.36 | JManV | make sure it can be done before you waste your efforts |
| 08:05.52 | Agouti | oh? |
| 08:06.07 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:06.15 | Dogmai | just as a test, but it works |
| 08:06.30 | Dogmai | all that catalog bullshit for the last 2 days for nothing, i never even knew we had this event |
| 08:06.49 | Xapti | yeah. I can search trhough validator list, but still don't know what to look for |
| 08:06.55 | Xapti | looking through each one would take a while |
| 08:07.19 | Xapti | ability doesn't turn up anything |
| 08:07.46 | JManV | that's to test for an ability |
| 08:08.10 | JManV | there might be another way to come at it, with the same general principal |
| 08:08.24 | JManV | if you can have an effect fire when the ability is used |
| 08:08.35 | JManV | and somehow get another one to fire when the cooldown ends |
| 08:08.57 | JManV | you can use that effect to apply/remove the behavior |
| 08:09.16 | JManV | alternatively, you might be able to do the same thing in triggers |
| 08:09.41 | JManV | but it all comes back to a behavior, because its the easiest thing to test for in a requirement |
| 08:09.44 | Xapti | yeah that could work too |
| 08:10.01 | Xapti | yeah ok |
| 08:10.20 | JManV | whichever way you can make it work |
| 08:10.50 | Agouti | ok, quick question: is there an easy way to add somethign to the Damage Response field of a buff so it is dispelled if the unit takes damage? |
| 08:11.12 | JManV | i hope so :) |
| 08:11.42 | Agouti | I would rather avoid a event - unit takes damage |
| 08:12.08 | Agouti | though event - unit is attacked would probably work as well |
| 08:12.11 | Agouti | and lag less |
| 08:12.17 | Xapti | of course. In fact that trigger is trcky to use because you need to specify an exact unit |
| 08:12.25 | JManV | what happens if you set the chance to 1? |
| 08:12.33 | Xapti | otherwise it triggers on any unit |
| 08:12.56 | JManV | any unit with that ability? |
| 08:13.06 | Agouti | it's any unit with any ability |
| 08:13.10 | JManV | is you trigger tied to the ability? |
| 08:13.14 | Agouti | it's a heal potion |
| 08:13.25 | Agouti | and if the unit takes damage while the potion is active |
| 08:13.30 | Agouti | it dispels the potion |
| 08:13.33 | JManV | sorry agouti, i was talking to xapti |
| 08:13.42 | Agouti | it *should* be possible in damage response |
| 08:13.49 | JManV | yes, it should |
| 08:13.53 | JManV | did you do a search? |
| 08:14.23 | Agouti | still talking to xapti? |
| 08:14.28 | JManV | no |
| 08:14.29 | JManV | sorry |
| 08:14.33 | Agouti | yeah, I had a look |
| 08:14.40 | JManV | nothing special? |
| 08:14.42 | Agouti | it's avague thing to search for though |
| 08:14.54 | Agouti | no, I might look for a generalized damage response tute |
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| 08:16.53 | JManV | hmmm |
| 08:17.02 | Agouti | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/2562-critical-strike-issue-and-item-activation-issue/ |
| 08:17.05 | Agouti | has stuff on it |
| 08:17.09 | JManV | why isn't there just a "remove this behavior" |
| 08:17.26 | Agouti | there should be a way to get it to expire in the damage response |
| 08:17.39 | Helral|Work | where you looking for remove behavior JManV? Data Editor? |
| 08:17.54 | Agouti | "The Damage Response Behavior can remove itself by adding only 1 charge on it" |
| 08:18.05 | Agouti | and yes, data editor |
| 08:18.22 | Helral|Work | ah the Damage Response Behavior? ;p |
| 08:18.36 | Vesuvius | ... |
| 08:18.44 | Agouti | I want a buff to dispel if the unit which has the buff is attacked |
| 08:18.55 | Vesuvius | jman |
| 08:19.02 | Vesuvius | there's a remove behavior effect class |
| 08:19.02 | JManV | yes? |
| 08:19.13 | Vesuvius | or will that not work? |
| 08:19.21 | JManV | damage response |
| 08:19.24 | Helral|Work | ok so 2 options. 1. Damage response behavior with as effect: remove behavior effect. |
| 08:19.49 | Helral|Work | 2. weapon dmg effect - remove behavior effect on target. |
| 08:20.10 | Helral|Work | the first one would be more to your wishes cause it takes less time and less locations to do. |
| 08:20.25 | Vesuvius | :( |
| 08:20.42 | Vesuvius | bloody search area wont support more than 4 calls |
| 08:20.43 | Agouti | i'm currently trying option 1 |
| 08:21.00 | Helral|Work | Vesuvius: what you mean more than 4 calls? |
| 08:21.02 | JManV | i don't see how to fire off an effect in the damage response |
| 08:21.09 | Vesuvius | i mean i have a search area |
| 08:21.13 | Vesuvius | that spawns itself |
| 08:21.20 | Vesuvius | there's a validator to prevent infinite recursion |
| 08:21.31 | Vesuvius | but it doesn't seem to cast more than 3-4 times |
| 08:21.32 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 08:21.38 | Helral|Work | why do you have it calling itself? |
| 08:21.44 | Vesuvius | because i want power line pylons |
| 08:22.27 | Vesuvius | and search area at least in theory would have let me do that |
| 08:22.48 | Xapti | hi helral |
| 08:22.58 | Vesuvius | guess there's probably another way |
| 08:23.05 | Vesuvius | i don't want to do it with triggers if I don't have to lol |
| 08:23.19 | Helral|Work | Vesuvius: so you want it to call itself with the nearby tower as it's source? |
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| 08:23.24 | Vesuvius | yeah |
| 08:23.41 | Shawn|Rawr | exactly |
| 08:24.47 | Helral|Work | 1 think to be careful off: if the effect has a validator that fails, then the search area will not find that unit. |
| 08:24.47 | Vesuvius | hmm |
| 08:24.52 | Helral|Work | 1 thing* |
| 08:25.09 | Vesuvius | i think there might be a smarter way to do this |
| 08:25.22 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 08:25.41 | Vesuvius | power levels are set discretely |
| 08:25.52 | Vesuvius | if my generator sets two fields |
| 08:26.09 | Vesuvius | one at level 2, one at level 3 |
| 08:26.12 | Helral|Work | JManV: there is no field Behavior - Effect orso? |
| 08:26.22 | Vesuvius | though actually if that doesn't work, could use the differently named soruces |
| 08:26.25 | JManV | not that i saw |
| 08:26.38 | JManV | but agouti was the one asking, and he seems to be working on something |
| 08:26.41 | Vesuvius | i can alternate between which level refreshes the level 1 field generated by the pylons |
| 08:26.59 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 08:27.10 | Helral|Work | thought the effect fields were there for all behaviors. |
| 08:27.26 | JManV | they are, but not in the damage response |
| 08:27.54 | Helral|Work | if they aren't in the damage response behavior then they aren't there for all behaviors ;p |
| 08:27.56 | JManV | agouti must be on to something tho |
| 08:28.31 | JManV | the damage response section of a buff behavior that is |
| 08:28.40 | Agouti | yeah, got somethign |
| 08:28.44 | Agouti | but it did weird werid things |
| 08:28.54 | Agouti | the Dispel Pot ability |
| 08:28.55 | Vesuvius | so pylons will initially have a level 2 field, but it'll flip to level 3 |
| 08:28.56 | Agouti | er |
| 08:28.57 | Agouti | effect |
| 08:29.02 | Agouti | that was supposed to remove the pot |
| 08:29.08 | Vesuvius | but a level 3 field cant be maintained by another level 3, only a level 2 |
| 08:29.11 | Agouti | actually just reset the units attributes :-/ |
| 08:29.17 | Vesuvius | so if the connection is cut it'll go off |
| 08:29.42 | Helral|Work | Vesuvius: so basicly you have a power requirement on the level 3 that requires a level 2? |
| 08:30.17 | Agouti | ugh, so it IS removing the pot |
| 08:30.23 | Agouti | but why the hell is it resetting stats |
| 08:31.07 | Vesuvius | yeah the pylon's level 3 field only goes on if it's outputting level 2 and in the presence of a level 3 |
| 08:32.48 | Vesuvius | i just need a mechanism to controlt he oscillation |
| 08:33.43 | Helral|Work | how does the normal power user check if it hould have power? |
| 08:33.51 | Vesuvius | that's level 1 |
| 08:34.16 | Helral|Work | can't you use the same sort of check for level 2 or 3? |
| 08:34.29 | Helral|Work | like in level 2 requires power user of level 1. |
| 08:34.36 | Helral|Work | and level 3 requires power user of level 2. |
| 08:35.02 | Vesuvius | I could actually just use levels 1 and 2 if I make the end users run on both |
| 08:35.17 | Helral|Work | hehehe :) |
| 08:35.58 | Agouti | jmanv: I have kind of got it working. I made 2 units, fired the pot on both, then got them to both attack eachother. One had the pot dispelled, but also it's str/agil/int changed, the other wasn't effected by the dispel |
| 08:37.11 | Agouti | wow, this is screwy |
| 08:37.28 | Agouti | now I did the same again, 2 units both using the pot |
| 08:37.38 | Agouti | i attacked one unit with the other, nothing happened |
| 08:37.39 | Agouti | stopped |
| 08:37.43 | Agouti | attack the other way around |
| 08:37.48 | Agouti | both were dispelled |
| 08:37.50 | Shawn|Rawr | why are we teaching our units to use pot |
| 08:37.52 | Shawn|Rawr | ? |
| 08:37.56 | Agouti | *potion |
| 08:38.10 | Helral|Work | because else they'd do it all over the map. and then the map gets dirty. |
| 08:38.12 | Agouti | or, hurr hurr |
| 08:40.03 | Shawn|Rawr | i love how i killed all intelligent conversation |
| 08:40.53 | Agouti | coincidence |
| 08:41.02 | Shawn|Rawr | sure... |
| 08:41.24 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 08:41.40 | Helral|Work | Shawn|Rawr: you can't kill all intelligent conversation, when there is none going on :) |
| 08:42.28 | Shawn|Rawr | you were talking about power something dispel stuff |
| 08:42.32 | Shawn|Rawr | :) |
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| 08:43.20 | Helral|Work | Shawn|Rawr: ok you're idea of intelligent conversation must be really low level ;p |
| 08:43.42 | Shawn|Rawr | absolutely.. that way i can think i'm smart |
| 08:44.52 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 08:45.12 | Agouti | YOU |
| 08:45.15 | Agouti | fix my problem |
| 08:45.21 | Agouti | >:-/ |
| 08:47.21 | Agouti | ok, the problem must be in the effect that removes the behaviour |
| 08:47.36 | Agouti | because it *is* removing the buff, but all the health gets dumped at once |
| 08:47.45 | Agouti | and it does other weird stuff with attributes |
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| 08:47.57 | Agouti | SKITTLES |
| 08:48.00 | Skittles | Hello my peeps. |
| 08:48.01 | Agouti | you can fix this |
| 08:48.04 | Agouti | can't you |
| 08:48.05 | Agouti | say yes |
| 08:48.12 | Skittles | It's possible. |
| 08:48.23 | Agouti | ok, I have a heal potion |
| 08:48.33 | Agouti | I want it to be dispeled when the unit is attacked |
| 08:48.35 | Shawn|Rawr | those arent real |
| 08:48.48 | Skittles | They are as real as your bad personality. Continue. |
| 08:48.56 | Agouti | what I have done, is in the heal potion buff's dmage response, added an effect |
| 08:49.04 | Agouti | which is remove behaviour heal potion |
| 08:49.20 | Agouti | so what happens is strange |
| 08:49.24 | Skittles | You played wc3, right? |
| 08:49.28 | Agouti | yes |
| 08:49.40 | Skittles | Salve I think was the name of it. |
| 08:49.44 | Skittles | Same potion |
| 08:49.45 | Skittles | ? |
| 08:49.53 | Agouti | er, dunno |
| 08:50.00 | Vesuvius | i think the oscillation scheme still has problems :( |
| 08:50.00 | Agouti | it's the same as heal potions in dota/HoN |
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| 08:50.09 | Vesuvius | i cant think of how to turn a pylon on initially lol |
| 08:50.13 | Skittles | Basically a periodic heal until a certain amount healed or the unit takes damage. |
| 08:50.23 | Agouti | exactly. |
| 08:50.29 | Agouti | when the remove behaviour effect is applied, it applies the remaining health in the potion |
| 08:50.32 | Skittles | Zap it with a bug zapper Ves. |
| 08:50.36 | Agouti | and changes the units str/int/agil |
| 08:50.41 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 08:50.49 | Shawn|Rawr | Turn it on with some lez pron |
| 08:50.52 | Agouti | I DON'T KNOW WHY. |
| 08:51.41 | Agouti | shaun, you can not contribute until you have drawn fan/manga/furry/ultralisk pron |
| 08:51.42 | Agouti | kgo |
| 08:51.42 | Skittles | I'm illiterate when it comes to the data editor. I've basically just been wasting my time; having you keep me entertained. ;P |
| 08:52.04 | Agouti | the weirder the better |
| 08:52.05 | Agouti | do it |
| 08:52.07 | Skittles | Ultralisk aren't furry though? |
| 08:52.14 | Agouti | I don't think that matters? |
| 08:52.14 | Skittles | Give it a stash. |
| 08:52.21 | Agouti | it is in one spot |
| 08:52.25 | Agouti | lurrid wink |
| 08:52.34 | Skittles | Whoa! I just noticed. None of the zerg have hair. |
| 08:52.42 | Agouti | thats cos they have carapace |
| 08:52.51 | Agouti | but some things with carapace still has hair |
| 08:52.54 | Skittles | It makes a lot of sense to have hair on their legs though. |
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| 08:54.11 | Skittles | hmm. |
| 08:54.47 | Skittles | How do you stop the buff? |
| 08:54.56 | Agouti | Remove Behaviour effect |
| 08:55.08 | Skittles | Behavior effects can heal? Xd |
| 08:55.19 | Agouti | it's a buff |
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| 08:55.25 | Skittles | Or is it required that the spell only works if the unit has the behavior? |
| 08:55.27 | Agouti | that modifies HP periodically |
| 08:55.39 | Agouti | the item applies the buff |
| 08:55.40 | Skittles | I'm so confused on the data editor. Haven't tried to make a spell at all yet. |
| 08:55.42 | Agouti | with adds the hp |
| 08:55.47 | JManV | hmmm... i need a small gap between lines in a text variable |
| 08:56.00 | Skittles | Don't you guys ever sleep? |
| 08:56.06 | Demonette | Haha XD |
| 08:56.11 | JManV | sleep? i don't know him |
| 08:56.16 | Helral|Work | don't use difficult words Skittles. |
| 08:56.17 | Skittles | Hah. |
| 08:56.25 | Helral|Work | that sl... word is kinda hard.... |
| 08:56.29 | JManV | its 3:45 am |
| 08:56.36 | Agouti | oh, well, that was actually rather easy |
| 08:56.39 | JManV | must... have... gap... |
| 08:56.40 | Skittles | 2:56 am here |
| 08:56.41 | Shawn|Rawr | is XenoX101 here? |
| 08:56.41 | Agouti | jmanv: if you care |
| 08:56.53 | Skittles | Took a nap when I got home, so I can't sleep. |
| 08:57.05 | Agouti | how you do it is by having a dummy effect, that does nothing, that gets applied as a damage response, and use charges to dispel the heal |
| 08:57.17 | Agouti | but you must have a dummy effect |
| 08:57.26 | Agouti | thats what had me stumped when I tried it before |
| 08:57.36 | JManV | hmmm |
| 08:57.41 | Skittles | Triggers > Data |
| 08:57.43 | Skittles | =D |
| 08:57.46 | Agouti | neg |
| 08:57.50 | Skittles | !! |
| 08:57.55 | Agouti | not when the alternative is having a trigger |
| 08:57.57 | Agouti | with an event |
| 08:57.59 | Agouti | which reads |
| 08:57.59 | JManV | depends on the situation |
| 08:58.12 | Agouti | Event - when Any Unit receives damage |
| 08:58.19 | Agouti | which would fire SOOOOOO MUCH |
| 08:58.28 | JManV | depends on the condition |
| 08:58.37 | JManV | if you can quickly dismiss 90% in the conditon |
| 08:58.39 | Agouti | the condition is checked after the event is fired |
| 08:58.44 | JManV | still |
| 08:58.47 | Agouti | so it's still extra software interrupts |
| 08:58.52 | Skittles | Agouti, you can use that event one time and have tons of things after it. |
| 08:58.54 | JManV | a few cycles |
| 08:59.06 | Agouti | data is done 100% client side as well |
| 08:59.17 | Agouti | without an extra layer |
| 08:59.24 | Agouti | and doesn't need to be executed in game cycles |
| 08:59.34 | Agouti | not as powerful |
| 08:59.38 | JManV | oh yeah? requirements and validators don't have an extra layer? |
| 08:59.40 | Agouti | but does what it does much better |
| 08:59.48 | Agouti | layer as in interpolation |
| 08:59.52 | JManV | there's an extra layer |
| 08:59.55 | JManV | on most data |
| 09:00.10 | Skittles | It doesn't really matter. Can't we all be friends. <3 |
| 09:00.13 | Helral|Work | failed conditions take like 0.01 miliseconds. so it can handle 100 failed conditions at the same time without being noticable. |
| 09:00.14 | JManV | well, not most |
| 09:00.24 | JManV | yeah |
| 09:00.40 | Agouti | but there are conditions where there are hundreds of attacks per second |
| 09:00.49 | JManV | if you have to fire an event more than you want to, the least you can do is have it dismiss quickly |
| 09:00.51 | Agouti | that is a noticeable amount of load |
| 09:00.56 | Agouti | meh |
| 09:00.58 | Agouti | it is done in data |
| 09:01.01 | Agouti | simply and elegantly |
| 09:01.04 | Agouti | there is now downside |
| 09:01.09 | Agouti | *no |
| 09:01.11 | JManV | no i'm with you |
| 09:01.17 | JManV | in that sense, data made the most sense |
| 09:01.21 | Skittles | Units getting hit in data still gives the damage done times defense of the unit and blah blah blah |
| 09:01.39 | Agouti | but the "event" is linked to the buff |
| 09:01.46 | Agouti | so it will only get touched when the buff is active |
| 09:01.55 | JManV | plus, data runs all those same events, essentially |
| 09:02.00 | Agouti | and the data stuff doesn't have to run through a code engine |
| 09:02.19 | Agouti | what I'm saying is data stuff interacts direct with the engine |
| 09:02.28 | JManV | there's already an event that fires every time damage happens, it just sends messages to everything that's hooked to it |
| 09:02.29 | Skittles | It doesn't matter which is better, but the outcome of both. If the outcome is unnoticeable difference, then there is no downside. |
| 09:02.31 | Agouti | wheras trigger has to go through interpretation and abstraction layers |
| 09:02.35 | Agouti | and all that jazz |
| 09:03.22 | Agouti | BUT |
| 09:03.25 | Agouti | eHug |
| 09:03.26 | Agouti | <3 |
| 09:03.27 | Agouti | etc |
| 09:03.27 | Skittles | I'm to pro, that's all you need to know. All you need to know. |
| 09:03.40 | Agouti | your like a sleeper |
| 09:03.46 | Agouti | looks and sounds noob |
| 09:03.47 | Skittles | What's sleep? |
| 09:03.48 | Agouti | but is really pro |
| 09:03.49 | JManV | so... small gap between lines in text field |
| 09:03.53 | Agouti | so |
| 09:03.54 | JManV | how would i do that? |
| 09:04.02 | Agouti | style? |
| 09:04.11 | Agouti | the styles effect the line spacing |
| 09:04.16 | Agouti | should be something in there |
| 09:04.25 | Agouti | you might need to set your own custom style |
| 09:04.29 | Agouti | and apply that |
| 09:04.31 | JManV | we can't yet |
| 09:04.36 | Agouti | oh |
| 09:04.39 | JManV | thats coming |
| 09:04.48 | Agouti | in that case |
| 09:04.52 | Agouti | I have no idea |
| 09:04.56 | Agouti | wait |
| 09:05.11 | Agouti | find a premade style that has the line height you want |
| 09:05.17 | Agouti | write the text normally |
| 09:05.26 | Agouti | but apply the style to one char in the line |
| 09:05.31 | JManV | it's putting it at the bottom |
| 09:05.32 | Agouti | might work with white space |
| 09:05.37 | Skittles | What did you need that has a separate turret controlled by a different player anyway? |
| 09:05.39 | JManV | the text i want |
| 09:05.40 | Agouti | that should push the whole line |
| 09:05.48 | JManV | so the gap isabove |
| 09:05.58 | JManV | which means i can go the other way with it... |
| 09:05.58 | Agouti | skittles: an ulti on a titan |
| 09:06.08 | Agouti | the idea would be that it is a big mechanized thing |
| 09:06.10 | Skittles | mmmhmm |
| 09:06.17 | Agouti | and it's ulti lets it take on minions as turrets |
| 09:06.30 | Agouti | and it gets a HP and armor boost from each as well as having a turret |
| 09:06.42 | Agouti | or somethign |
| 09:06.49 | Skittles | Is its name going to be RoboBitch? |
| 09:06.58 | Agouti | howsabout terratron |
| 09:06.59 | Agouti | :P |
| 09:07.10 | Skittles | Sounds so familiar! |
| 09:07.11 | Agouti | Hugg-o-matic? |
| 09:08.38 | Skittles | huggies now too? |
| 09:08.58 | JManV | dammit! |
| 09:09.07 | JManV | why can't i move things in combine text multiple?!?!?! |
| 09:09.22 | JManV | so retarded |
| 09:11.04 | JManV | really? |
| 09:11.16 | JManV | i have to rebuild half of this thing because i can't add in the middle |
| 09:16.34 | Agouti | yup |
| 09:16.45 | Agouti | the handling of parameters drives me mad |
| 09:16.49 | Agouti | and no copy/paste |
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| 09:17.32 | JManV | its vertically centering it :( |
| 09:17.32 | Agouti | but the whole optional paramater thing is only half implimented anyway |
| 09:17.39 | Agouti | wait |
| 09:17.42 | Agouti | how did you do that? |
| 09:17.46 | Agouti | I want to do that. |
| 09:17.52 | Agouti | tell me how to do that. |
| 09:17.57 | JManV | vertically center? |
| 09:18.13 | Agouti | horizontal |
| 09:18.19 | Agouti | but I would settle for that as well |
| 09:18.24 | Agouti | do you mean |
| 09:18.28 | Agouti | the text on the screen? |
| 09:18.28 | Agouti | or |
| 09:18.33 | JManV | i know this much, if you use an inline style, it tends to ignore the vertical/horizontal centering of the style and use whatever it feels like |
| 09:18.33 | Agouti | the text in the line... |
| 09:18.42 | JManV | but if you apply a style to a dialog item |
| 09:18.52 | JManV | it will use the horizontal/vertical alignments of the style |
| 09:18.54 | JManV | properly |
| 09:18.57 | Agouti | :-/ |
| 09:19.16 | JManV | which kind of makes sense |
| 09:19.21 | Agouti | kind of. |
| 09:19.35 | JManV | oh, i'm not saying it totally makes sense |
| 09:19.38 | Agouti | the text editor sucks cancerous mokey balls |
| 09:19.49 | JManV | but if an inline style isn't the whole line... |
| 09:19.57 | JManV | it can't exactly horizontally center it |
| 09:20.00 | Agouti | the 2.3rd delay after every keypress when editing my loading screen text |
| 09:20.03 | Skittles | mmhmm |
| 09:20.03 | Agouti | drives me insance |
| 09:20.10 | Agouti | *2/3rd |
| 09:20.40 | Shawn|Rawr | Agouti, what was XenoX's problem/. |
| 09:20.42 | Shawn|Rawr | ? |
| 09:21.04 | Agouti | o god |
| 09:21.08 | Agouti | how long ago was that |
| 09:21.23 | Skittles | lol |
| 09:21.31 | Shawn|Rawr | 7 hours |
| 09:21.34 | Shawn|Rawr | at least |
| 09:21.45 | Agouti | last I heard he was talking about lighing stuff |
| 09:21.54 | Agouti | pretty sure he got it all figured out |
| 09:21.59 | Agouti | something about makign a map dark |
| 09:22.18 | Shawn|Rawr | He posted about his model not showing up |
| 09:22.26 | Agouti | don't remember that |
| 09:22.27 | Agouti | sorry |
| 09:28.17 | Skittles | lol making a map dark Xd |
| 09:28.37 | Agouti | I'm doing all my item stuff in triggers |
| 09:28.39 | Agouti | cbf |
| 09:28.52 | Agouti | arrays to store charges for each player for each item type |
| 09:28.55 | Agouti | only like a 12x12 |
| 09:29.00 | JManV | i don't blame you |
| 09:29.23 | Agouti | though, I might limit that to the consumables |
| 09:29.43 | Agouti | which, currently, is everythign |
| 09:29.56 | Skittles | weirdest trigger error ever |
| 09:29.57 | JManV | i actually got items to stack as i picked them up, which was kind of cool |
| 09:30.08 | Skittles | error occurred starting starcraft II |
| 09:30.11 | Agouti | ah |
| 09:30.12 | Agouti | that |
| 09:30.12 | JManV | but you could actually see it show up on your inventory |
| 09:30.14 | Skittles | for a tirgger error |
| 09:30.25 | JManV | and if your inventory was full, you couldn't pick it up |
| 09:30.26 | Agouti | skittles: that is because you have used Triggering psomething[ in a bad place |
| 09:30.40 | Skittles | No |
| 09:30.46 | JManV | it's cuz you did something wrong |
| 09:30.48 | Skittles | It's because blizzard hates us |
| 09:30.52 | JManV | <-- mr. specific |
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| 09:31.02 | Skittles | I cnped a action definition and shit kept disapearing for no reason inside it |
| 09:31.09 | JManV | sorry: you did something wrong, somewhere |
| 09:31.14 | Agouti | well, that is the only spot I get that error, and it's always because of that |
| 09:31.15 | Agouti | so |
| 09:31.17 | Agouti | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.17 | Skittles | nopes |
| 09:31.41 | Agouti | jmanv: how did you do it |
| 09:31.44 | Agouti | all triggers? |
| 09:31.57 | JManV | yeah |
| 09:32.10 | Agouti | with that items utility library? |
| 09:32.10 | JManV | item utility library plus a single trigger |
| 09:32.15 | Agouti | sweet |
| 09:32.20 | Agouti | i'm gonig to use that I think |
| 09:32.33 | Agouti | I can still have ability command cards that consume charges that way too |
| 09:32.42 | JManV | its pretty good for charged items |
| 09:34.30 | JManV | arg! |
| 09:34.58 | JManV | combine text multiple is really pissing me off right now |
| 09:35.38 | JManV | it's a lot like trying to build a complex mathematically equation using the arithmatic functions |
| 09:36.02 | JManV | every time you realize you forgot something, you gotta start over basically from scratch |
| 09:36.22 | Shawn|Rawr | Prior Planning much? |
| 09:36.35 | Skittles | lmao |
| 09:36.37 | Skittles | showhow |
| 09:36.38 | JManV | man |
| 09:36.39 | Skittles | some how |
| 09:36.49 | Skittles | my bullets became the actor for a different trigger |
| 09:37.00 | Skittles | so i was shooting acid bubbles out of my gun |
| 09:37.01 | JManV | prior planning is great when you don't have to do so much guessing and checking |
| 09:37.14 | JManV | to see if the editor can do what you need it to |
| 09:37.48 | JManV | it just comes down to breaking it into smaller peices |
| 09:38.43 | JManV | its still annoying |
| 09:40.11 | JManV | hmmm |
| 09:40.24 | JManV | that 1 pixel indent is actually noticable |
| 09:41.36 | JManV | that's more than 1 pixel |
| 09:42.36 | Dogmai | jmanv |
| 09:42.41 | Dogmai | you realise you can move them up and down |
| 09:42.49 | Dogmai | CTM is the best thing ever |
| 09:42.52 | JManV | how? |
| 09:42.58 | JManV | please god tell me how |
| 09:42.58 | Dogmai | ugh right click mvoe up/down |
| 09:43.03 | Dogmai | or ctrl up ctrl down |
| 09:43.09 | JManV | holy shit! |
| 09:43.10 | Dogmai | when in doubt, right click |
| 09:43.11 | JManV | thanks! |
| 09:43.12 | Dogmai | yea |
| 09:43.14 | Dogmai | np |
| 09:43.56 | Skittles | yay fixed it |
| 09:44.26 | JManV | hmmm |
| 09:44.31 | Skittles | ctm? |
| 09:44.33 | Dogmai | text variables and CTM have limits |
| 09:44.38 | Dogmai | combine text multiple |
| 09:44.43 | Skittles | hha |
| 09:44.57 | Dogmai | you can mix and match them to make a giant piece of text |
| 09:45.03 | Skittles | yeps |
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| 09:45.13 | Dogmai | you know what sucks |
| 09:45.14 | Skittles | surprised nobody has made a quest system yet |
| 09:45.22 | Dogmai | the us-en should have unicode encoding |
| 09:45.24 | JManV | so in order to add a gap, i have to change the line height of the line below |
| 09:45.34 | Dogmai | </n> |
| 09:45.35 | Dogmai | add that |
| 09:45.41 | Dogmai | ugh |
| 09:45.43 | Dogmai | <n/> |
| 09:45.45 | Dogmai | sorry |
| 09:45.46 | JManV | small gap between lines |
| 09:45.51 | JManV | like, 6 pixels |
| 09:45.52 | Skittles | just hit numpad enter |
| 09:46.03 | JManV | not a full line |
| 09:46.20 | XenoX101 | Agouti |
| 09:46.22 | Dogmai | i just use a full line |
| 09:46.25 | Dogmai | makes things look neater |
| 09:46.37 | JManV | i'm trying to emulate normal tooltips |
| 09:46.50 | JManV | and theres a small gap between the header and the body |
| 09:46.54 | JManV | that is not a full line |
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| 09:59.57 | Agouti | what isn't |
| 10:00.08 | JManV | the image has to be applied before the line, which creates an indent |
| 10:00.23 | Agouti | just make everything that has to be in the dialog a image? |
| 10:00.30 | Agouti | or am I still missing the point |
| 10:00.30 | Shawn|Rawr | XenoX101, PM |
| 10:00.32 | JManV | it's based on data |
| 10:00.45 | JManV | i'm constructing the tooltip from several data points |
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| 10:01.07 | XenoX101 | kk |
| 10:01.53 | XenoX101 | its still fucked :( |
| 10:01.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Perhaps reordering the dependencies or something if it's still messed up.. I don't really know what to tell you |
| 10:02.06 | XenoX101 | the weirdest part is |
| 10:02.11 | XenoX101 | that when you launch it it is messed |
| 10:02.13 | Agouti | it's something retarded |
| 10:02.22 | XenoX101 | like |
| 10:02.22 | Agouti | because I took apart the actor |
| 10:02.25 | XenoX101 | we both have the same map |
| 10:02.27 | Agouti | and removed ALL MODELS FROM IT |
| 10:02.31 | XenoX101 | but |
| 10:02.34 | Agouti | and it STILL had the geyser |
| 10:02.35 | XenoX101 | mine shows geyser |
| 10:02.40 | XenoX101 | yours shows artifact (Shawn) |
| 10:02.56 | Agouti | like, the unit had no model, appeared in the previewer as the white sphere |
| 10:02.59 | Agouti | yet was a geyser |
| 10:03.01 | Agouti | and |
| 10:03.02 | Agouti | after that |
| 10:03.09 | Agouti | the actual shrine thing |
| 10:03.13 | Agouti | bugged my previewer |
| 10:03.14 | Shawn|Rawr | We need to work on the map together obviously |
| 10:03.23 | Agouti | and it wouldn't dissapear from it |
| 10:03.46 | XenoX101 | I don't get how it can happen though |
| 10:03.53 | Agouti | bugz |
| 10:04.38 | Shawn|Rawr | Can you copy and paste terrain from map to map? |
| 10:04.47 | XenoX101 | yes |
| 10:04.50 | Shawn|Rawr | In fact, does the artifact work for you in a new map? |
| 10:04.51 | Agouti | via XML |
| 10:05.05 | XenoX101 | I think so |
| 10:05.06 | XenoX101 | not sure |
| 10:05.10 | XenoX101 | I'm afraid to do that though |
| 10:05.20 | XenoX101 | I don't trust copy & paste with three days of work |
| 10:05.28 | XenoX101 | something will be out of place and I won't notice it |
| 10:05.36 | JManV | that stupid cataclysm ad is driving me nuts |
| 10:05.52 | XenoX101 | thats 3 days of probably 6 hours a pop |
| 10:05.56 | XenoX101 | 20 hours or something |
| 10:06.51 | Shawn|Rawr | then I keep screwing with it til it works |
| 10:06.55 | Shawn|Rawr | sound good? |
| 10:06.58 | XenoX101 | yes thank you |
| 10:07.00 | XenoX101 | :) |
| 10:07.09 | Xapti | I don't remmber getting an answer to something I've wondered for a while now... |
| 10:07.33 | Agouti | which is .... ? |
| 10:07.35 | Xapti | Is there a way to edit the GUI galaxy script easily |
| 10:07.47 | Agouti | yes |
| 10:07.48 | Agouti | but |
| 10:07.55 | Agouti | there are several problems |
| 10:08.00 | Agouti | if I am understanding you correctly |
| 10:08.12 | Shawn|Rawr | Close out the whole editor, open the map i just added to the PM |
| 10:08.23 | Agouti | you can open the map with a mpq editor |
| 10:08.32 | Shawn|Rawr | The energy well should look like something different now |
| 10:08.33 | Agouti | and just play with the mapscript.galaxy |
| 10:08.47 | Agouti | however, the galaxy script is generated from the triggers file |
| 10:08.57 | Agouti | so you cannot use the gui again after playing with it by hand |
| 10:09.12 | Agouti | or, the other thing you can do, is use custom scripts inside the gui |
| 10:09.28 | Xapti | Well I don't consider that easy. I guess by easy I meant convieniant also. |
| 10:09.35 | Xapti | although i do know how to do that |
| 10:09.37 | Agouti | however the galaxy script is always generated from the triggers |
| 10:09.43 | Xapti | and i already have custom scripts but they aren't what i want |
| 10:09.48 | JManV | haha |
| 10:09.50 | Agouti | what do you want |
| 10:10.04 | JManV | i did a replace text, and replaced the first space with an image |
| 10:10.05 | Xapti | well I have a whole lot of variable setting |
| 10:10.12 | Xapti | but they are as variable declartions |
| 10:10.23 | Xapti | and I need to move them all to set variable actions now |
| 10:10.30 | Agouti | honestly the best way is by hand |
| 10:10.32 | Agouti | in the gui |
| 10:10.35 | Agouti | it will take you longer |
| 10:10.40 | Agouti | but save grief in the long run |
| 10:10.53 | Xapti | that will be really damn anoying for me cause it will take really long, but yeah i'm thinking thats my only option from what you mentioned |
| 10:11.00 | Xapti | because i still want use of the GUI for later |
| 10:11.06 | Agouti | yeah |
| 10:11.14 | Agouti | and using big slabs of custom script can be done |
| 10:11.28 | Xapti | ooooooh wait I can use custom script |
| 10:11.33 | Agouti | I have it for a function that takes a huge slab of parameters, and needs them in array form |
| 10:11.49 | Xapti | all the variable set actions could just be a cuhnk of custom code |
| 10:11.52 | Agouti | oh, didn't read that before? |
| 10:12.06 | Xapti | not very user friendly for editing later... but it could work |
| 10:12.12 | Agouti | yeah |
| 10:12.22 | Xapti | at least patch work until I actually care enough to move all the set variables |
| 10:12.23 | Agouti | and you will have to be careful that you don't move or rename any of the variables |
| 10:12.30 | Xapti | exactly yeah |
| 10:12.38 | Agouti | I do use it |
| 10:12.38 | Xapti | that's what I meant by user friendly |
| 10:12.39 | Agouti | in spots |
| 10:12.52 | Agouti | because the glagaxy is copy paste and the gui would take days to do it in |
| 10:13.20 | Xapti | yeah me too |
| 10:13.27 | Xapti | GUIcan't do order of operations |
| 10:13.52 | Xapti | which would make this: "lv_collide_time = AbsF(-((lv_dx * lv_target_xvel + lv_dy * lv_target_yvel) + SquareRoot(2 * lv_dx * lv_dy * lv_target_xvel * lv_target_yvel + Pow(lv_dist, 2) * Pow(lv_launch_speed, 2) - Pow(lv_target_xvel * lv_dy, 2) - Pow(lv_target_yvel * lv_dx, 2))) / (Pow(lv_target_vel, 2) - Pow(lv_launch_speed, 2)));" ridiculous to do via GUI |
| 10:14.16 | JManV | oh dear god |
| 10:14.23 | JManV | you'd have to do it in tiny chunks |
| 10:14.28 | Xapti | yeah but |
| 10:14.34 | Xapti | you'd have to do it in the right order too |
| 10:14.35 | Agouti | be a real man |
| 10:14.36 | Xapti | manually |
| 10:14.38 | Agouti | do it in one equation |
| 10:14.53 | Agouti | and fuck up towards the end, realising you have something nested just one loop to high |
| 10:14.58 | Agouti | and realise you ahve to redo EVERYTHIGN |
| 10:15.08 | Xapti | yeah lol. Althoguh I realized something kinda cool |
| 10:15.13 | JManV | math - arithmatic : math - arithmatic : math - arithmatic : math.... |
| 10:15.20 | Agouti | for bonus geek points |
| 10:15.23 | Xapti | if I have something like abs(sin(x) and I just change the abs to sin |
| 10:15.28 | Xapti | it will keep the x |
| 10:15.36 | JManV | heh |
| 10:15.45 | Agouti | wooo a very small token of respect |
| 10:15.50 | Xapti | so it doesn't reset the contents as long as you set the parent function to the containing function |
| 10:16.08 | Agouti | *and* |
| 10:16.16 | Xapti | probably extends further than just with math, but never tested anything else |
| 10:16.19 | Agouti | the daughter function takes the same input type |
| 10:16.23 | JManV | sweet. i got my gap working |
| 10:16.27 | Agouti | or return the same type |
| 10:16.27 | Agouti | w/e |
| 10:16.27 | JManV | its a total hack |
| 10:16.33 | Agouti | who cares |
| 10:16.37 | Agouti | I won't tell anybody |
| 10:17.04 | JManV | its funny that i have to replace the first space with an image |
| 10:17.39 | Agouti | makes sense |
| 10:17.40 | JManV | which means anything without a space needs a space at the end |
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| 10:29.57 | Skittles | mm |
| 10:30.03 | Agouti | mmmmm |
| 10:30.10 | Helral|Work | mmmmmmmm |
| 10:30.22 | XenoX101 | hey Helral want to see my new terrain? |
| 10:30.24 | Skittles | Anybody want to record a video of kick ass zombies and terrain? =D |
| 10:30.30 | Helral|Work | me be at work ;p |
| 10:30.34 | XenoX101 | o ya |
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| 10:37.20 | peterpants | Skittles, d/l wegame |
| 10:37.23 | peterpants | that can record videos |
| 10:38.06 | Skittles | is it already going to be uploadable to utube? |
| 10:38.18 | Skittles | I can never get fraps to work for me. Xd |
| 10:39.17 | peterpants | yea, they also have their own video hosting thing |
| 10:39.23 | peterpants | but you can just upload the mp4 to youtube too |
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| 10:39.46 | peterpants | i'd use fraps but it costs the money |
| 10:41.07 | Skittles | yeah |
| 10:41.13 | Skittles | minute is all i needed for old vids |
| 10:41.38 | Skittles | ty |
| 10:43.03 | peterpants | yw |
| 10:43.10 | peterpants | what kinda zombies are you usin |
| 10:43.32 | Skittles | Regular Civilians using wounded animations. |
| 10:43.48 | Skittles | also made them generate at random heights and run speeds, so they have variation. |
| 10:43.54 | Skittles | and don't clump together |
| 10:43.56 | Skittles | good stuff. |
| 10:44.34 | Skittles | also have a zombie that as he gets closer to you he radiates more color, and when killed leaves a pool of acid |
| 10:44.47 | Skittles | then got one that shoots 3 acid balls out at you |
| 10:45.04 | Skittles | then got one that runs at you fast and when she hits u runs away a bit and goes back to you |
| 10:45.11 | Skittles | and some other ones |
| 10:49.11 | Skittles | jelous? |
| 10:49.12 | Skittles | =D |
| 10:49.22 | peterpants | ya sounds cool |
| 10:49.25 | Skittles | lol |
| 10:49.28 | Skittles | =D |
| 10:49.52 | peterpants | my map has some deer ... and bunnies |
| 10:50.04 | Skittles | ooh popey's chicken too? |
| 10:50.32 | peterpants | yep there's a chicken |
| 10:50.49 | peterpants | lot of animals rly |
| 10:50.54 | Skittles | mmmm |
| 10:52.32 | peterpants | and you can eat them lol |
| 10:52.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sevenix (pheonix@c-83-233-144-166.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 10:55.48 | Skittles | lol |
| 10:55.54 | Skittles | It's a survival? |
| 10:56.44 | peterpants | ya |
| 10:57.04 | Skittles | sc2 needs a good one |
| 10:58.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster Clord (~Clord@62-165-186-65.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 11:00.56 | Skittles | Gonna be like troll tribes? or? |
| 11:01.16 | Helral|Work | hmmm does your map also contain the bunny from that movie? |
| 11:01.48 | Shawn|Rawr | Chappy the rabbit? |
| 11:01.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Wait.. that's bleach |
| 11:01.59 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 11:02.15 | Helral|Work | no from monty python and the quest for the holy grail. |
| 11:02.32 | Helral|Work | I want to have that bunny as a pet :) |
| 11:03.05 | Shawn|Rawr | ~seen Agouti |
| 11:03.14 | purl | agouti is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 55 messages. Is idling for 33m 11s, last said: 'mmmmm'. |
| 11:03.37 | Helral|Work | ~seen Helral|Work |
| 11:03.38 | purl | helral|work is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Helral|Work'. |
| 11:03.39 | Helral|Work | ;p |
| 11:03.39 | Skittles | mmmmmmmmmmm |
| 11:03.55 | Skittles | ~seen Skittles |
| 11:03.56 | purl | skittles is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 27 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Skittles'. |
| 11:04.04 | Skittles | HAHA |
| 11:04.16 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:04.17 | Skittles | Oh, you just did that. Xd |
| 11:04.22 | Helral|Work | ~Skittles |
| 11:04.25 | Helral|Work | .... |
| 11:04.27 | Skittles | Get back to work you lazy bum. |
| 11:04.30 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 11:04.39 | Skittles | What's you job any way? |
| 11:04.41 | Helral|Work | I'm no bum |
| 11:04.45 | Helral|Work | I'm a programmer ;p |
| 11:04.51 | Skittles | Helral sounds like a indian, so a gas station? |
| 11:04.52 | Shawn|Rawr | Get me a job? |
| 11:04.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Por favor? |
| 11:05.03 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:05.15 | Skittles | Helral & Kumar ftw. |
| 11:05.26 | Helral|Work | says: "me no sound like Yoda, do I?" |
| 11:05.31 | Shawn|Rawr | I can just imagine your kitty paws slamming away at the keys |
| 11:05.47 | Agouti | my name was spoken |
| 11:05.48 | Agouti | what |
| 11:05.50 | Helral|Work | starting the car is done with both paws. |
| 11:06.17 | Helral|Work | place 1 paw at each side of the key, then do a screw (lik in athletics) and the car starts. :) |
| 11:06.24 | Shawn|Rawr | Agouti, we fixed the problem |
| 11:06.26 | Agouti | our dog does a better job of manipulating objects then our cats |
| 11:06.30 | Shawn|Rawr | The xenox was havin |
| 11:06.34 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:06.35 | Agouti | which was? |
| 11:06.57 | Shawn|Rawr | The artifact shrine |
| 11:07.07 | Shawn|Rawr | You dont remember? |
| 11:07.17 | Agouti | ah |
| 11:07.17 | Agouti | yes |
| 11:07.21 | Agouti | what was the problem |
| 11:07.32 | Shawn|Rawr | You guys failed to look at the actor events and see the model swap |
| 11:07.33 | XenoX101 | I'm going to have to cover my face here |
| 11:07.45 | Shawn|Rawr | Haha |
| 11:07.51 | Agouti | I actually mentioned the actor events |
| 11:07.59 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:08.03 | Agouti | but I didn't think they would effect the editor |
| 11:08.10 | Agouti | pets Helral |
| 11:08.16 | Shawn|Rawr | There was nothing wrong with the editor lol |
| 11:08.21 | Shawn|Rawr | Just the actor |
| 11:08.30 | Agouti | ya I knew the actor was the problem |
| 11:08.30 | Agouti | o well |
| 11:08.38 | Agouti | should have looked more closeley |
| 11:08.42 | Agouti | *closely |
| 11:09.00 | Shawn|Rawr | Ya, just wanted you to know so you don't think about it later |
| 11:09.05 | Shawn|Rawr | I know it would bother me |
| 11:09.21 | Agouti | I've got enough bothering without worrying about someone elses shit lol |
| 11:09.33 | Clord | chappy the rabbit in google just produces bunch of Bleach anime stuff lol ^^ |
| 11:09.50 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 11:10.10 | Shawn|Rawr | Chappy is from Bleach |
| 11:10.10 | Helral|Work | you don't know who the rabbit from that movie is? |
| 11:10.12 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 11:11.50 | Skittles | yay my map is pretty fun atm |
| 11:11.58 | XenoX101 | NO IT ISNT IT SUCKS |
| 11:12.05 | XenoX101 | just wanted to say that |
| 11:12.09 | Skittles | Takes one to know one. |
| 11:12.19 | XenoX101 | I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I |
| 11:12.28 | Skittles | A sucker. |
| 11:12.31 | Skittles | A stupid sucker. |
| 11:12.34 | Shawn|Rawr | You both confuse me more than actors confuse xenox |
| 11:12.41 | XenoX101 | Hey! |
| 11:12.45 | Skittles | That means nothing to me. |
| 11:12.45 | XenoX101 | they don't confuse me -that- much! |
| 11:12.46 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm gonna use that line more often |
| 11:13.00 | Skittles | He didn't say they confused you a lot, he just said less. |
| 11:13.46 | Helral|Work | looks with his big cute cat eyes at the group of chatters. |
| 11:13.59 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:14.25 | Skittles | Puts a few pills in the kitty litter. |
| 11:14.33 | Shawn|Rawr | What would that do? |
| 11:14.42 | Skittles | Would what do? |
| 11:14.49 | Agouti | GRRRRRRR |
| 11:14.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Putting pills where he poops |
| 11:14.51 | Skittles | Candy, not pills, candy... >.> <.< |
| 11:15.01 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 11:15.10 | Agouti | why does the game keep wiping my loading screen text |
| 11:15.15 | Agouti | stupid stupid stupidness |
| 11:15.15 | Skittles | His keepers will think he's on drugs then, ofc. I mean stealing candy... candy... |
| 11:15.27 | Shawn|Rawr | He has a fulltime job |
| 11:15.39 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm sure he doesn't need keepers |
| 11:15.48 | Agouti | he needs twice as many |
| 11:15.51 | Skittles | His job is letting fleas live on him? |
| 11:15.51 | Shawn|Rawr | If a cat can program, he can do anything |
| 11:15.53 | Helral|Work | sees weird pills in his litter. Helral|Work loads the weird pills into his pea-shooter. |
| 11:15.59 | Skittles | Super kitty. |
| 11:16.01 | Helral|Work | shoots the pills at Skittles. |
| 11:16.06 | Helral|Work | meows innocently |
| 11:16.13 | Skittles | @.@ |
| 11:16.19 | Skittles | Dumb cat, I pop skittles, not pills. |
| 11:16.39 | Helral|Work | shot Skittles at Skittles it seems. |
| 11:16.49 | Helral|Work | lol. |
| 11:16.53 | Skittles | You stole my candy. |
| 11:17.01 | Skittles | candy >.> mm |
| 11:17.01 | Helral|Work | has no candy |
| 11:17.11 | Helral|Work | has pea-gun ammo |
| 11:17.24 | Skittles | Get back to work you flea bag. |
| 11:17.45 | Helral|Work | has no flea's. |
| 11:18.22 | Agouti | or grammar |
| 11:18.24 | Agouti | :P |
| 11:18.31 | Helral|Work | has no grammar :) |
| 11:18.48 | Helral|Work | wonders what grammar is. |
| 11:18.53 | XenoX101 | I'm so happy with my terrain right now that I can't be bothered doing anything else anymore |
| 11:19.00 | Helral|Work | wonders how hard grammar would hurt if shot at Agouti. |
| 11:19.01 | XenoX101 | gonna take a break till tomorrow |
| 11:19.03 | Helral|Work | meows. |
| 11:19.16 | XenoX101 | especially since the awesome Shawn fixed my problem |
| 11:19.49 | Helral|Work | ~seen vjeux |
| 11:19.53 | purl | vjeux <3e278b01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.39.139.1> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 9d 19h 42m 19s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 11:20.00 | Helral|Work | hmmmm |
| 11:22.09 | Agouti | what a random and debateably useful peice of information |
| 11:23.49 | Skittles | piece |
| 11:24.11 | Agouti | peace |
| 11:26.20 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:26.38 | Shawn|Rawr | I need onetwo |
| 11:28.16 | Helral|Work | needs a GF. |
| 11:28.20 | Helral|Work | ;p |
| 11:28.23 | Agouti | lols |
| 11:28.39 | Helral|Work | I ain't lying. |
| 11:28.59 | Shawn|Rawr | I'll be your GF is you help me with abilities |
| 11:29.03 | Agouti | ~seen onetwo |
| 11:29.05 | purl | onetwo <ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3h 27m 37s ago, saying: 'bud'. |
| 11:29.06 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 11:29.06 | Helral|Work | I need someone to clean up the mess I make at home. those are called GF's aren't they ^.^ |
| 11:29.07 | Skittles | give Onetwo a wig and go for it. |
| 11:29.29 | Agouti | ah, helral: that could be your problem right there |
| 11:29.39 | Skittles | lol, true enough. |
| 11:29.47 | Agouti | gf's don't clean up, except indirectly by forcing you to |
| 11:30.01 | Helral|Work | well that would also work. as long as it gets done :) |
| 11:30.11 | Shawn|Rawr | I'd do it |
| 11:30.18 | Shawn|Rawr | Will work for abilities |
| 11:30.21 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 11:30.24 | Agouti | shawn would do it for a reach-around of a night |
| 11:30.44 | Helral|Work | 1 requirement shawn: you need to be female :P |
| 11:30.55 | Agouti | god, talk about picky |
| 11:31.02 | Shawn|Rawr | Super picky |
| 11:31.03 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 11:31.08 | Helral|Work | ultra picky ;p |
| 11:31.14 | Shawn|Rawr | I was gonna wear the maid outfit and everything\ |
| 11:31.17 | Agouti | this channel obiously hasn't seen enough filth recently |
| 11:31.24 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 11:31.32 | Helral|Work | hmmm and here I had a cat costume ready ... |
| 11:31.40 | Shawn|Rawr | That works too |
| 11:31.43 | Agouti | lols |
| 11:31.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Computerpunk (~Computerp@85.186.122.45) |
| 11:32.18 | Helral|Work | wonder if purl knows some more info about shawn|rawr ;p |
| 11:32.30 | Helral|Work | purl who is Shawn|Rawr? |
| 11:32.31 | purl | Helral|Work: what are you talking about? |
| 11:32.36 | Helral|Work | damn guess not ;p |
| 11:32.47 | Helral|Work | maybe without the "|" ;p |
| 11:32.52 | Helral|Work | purl who is Shawn? |
| 11:32.53 | purl | shawn is probably a bot who randomly screams out obscenities and complains about his defective iMac. |
| 11:32.53 | Shawn|Rawr | purl who is shawn |
| 11:32.54 | purl | shawn is, like, a bot who randomly screams out obscenities and complains about his defective iMac. |
| 11:32.57 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 11:32.58 | Agouti | purl what is Helral|Work |
| 11:32.58 | purl | Agouti: what are you talking about? |
| 11:33.04 | Agouti | shh you |
| 11:33.05 | Shawn|Rawr | NO@ |
| 11:33.07 | Shawn|Rawr | NO! |
| 11:33.09 | Helral|Work | try without the |Work. |
| 11:33.09 | Shawn|Rawr | I hate Mac |
| 11:33.20 | Shawn|Rawr | purl who is helral |
| 11:33.20 | purl | from memory, helral is an evil random kitten |
| 11:33.20 | Agouti | purl what is Helral |
| 11:33.21 | purl | somebody said helral was an evil random kitten |
| 11:33.26 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:33.34 | Agouti | lold |
| 11:34.04 | Shawn|Rawr | Purl xenox is a person who is very confused by actor events |
| 11:34.04 | purl | okay, Shawn|Rawr |
| 11:34.07 | Agouti | helral @ smug |
| 11:35.17 | XenoX101 | thanks Shawn |
| 11:35.19 | XenoX101 | I will remember this |
| 11:35.21 | Shawn|Rawr | What? |
| 11:35.27 | Agouti | you don't need to xenox |
| 11:35.29 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm sorry, I can't control myself |
| 11:35.31 | Agouti | purl will remember for you |
| 11:36.06 | Agouti | isn't that right purl |
| 11:36.12 | Agouti | purl? |
| 11:36.18 | Agouti | oh fine |
| 11:36.34 | Helral|Work | ~xenox |
| 11:36.34 | purl | hmm... xenox is a person who is very confused by actor events |
| 11:36.37 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 11:36.58 | Agouti | lols |
| 11:37.12 | XenoX101 | so, I've got this little black book |
| 11:37.15 | XenoX101 | with names in it |
| 11:37.35 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:37.37 | Agouti | fascinating - please, contine |
| 11:37.42 | Agouti | *continue |
| 11:38.06 | XenoX101 | you can guess the rest |
| 11:38.17 | XenoX101 | watch your words ;p |
| 11:38.26 | Agouti | that is a difficult task |
| 11:38.47 | Shawn|Rawr | Psh.. if you can't forgive that, then you don't deserve the Shawn|Rawr Help Desk |
| 11:39.04 | XenoX101 | oh its forgiven... for now |
| 11:39.07 | XenoX101 | mwahahaha |
| 11:39.24 | XenoX101 | MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 11:39.33 | XenoX101 | erm.. ya I'm done |
| 11:39.38 | Helral|Work | you sure? |
| 11:39.39 | Agouti | goodo |
| 11:39.48 | Agouti | well |
| 11:39.51 | Helral|Work | should it go on 2 more lines at least? |
| 11:39.51 | Agouti | i'm bored |
| 11:39.52 | XenoX101 | yes Helral, what would ever make you think otherwise? |
| 11:40.03 | XenoX101 | no no, I think thats quite it |
| 11:40.05 | Helral|Work | normally someone does that at least 4 lines long. |
| 11:40.07 | Agouti | i've been spending pretty much all of my waking hours working on the map |
| 11:40.12 | Agouti | and it's kinda done |
| 11:40.18 | Agouti | except for the endless editions to come |
| 11:40.22 | Agouti | *additions |
| 11:40.23 | Shawn|Rawr | an artists work is never done |
| 11:40.30 | Agouti | feeling a little lost as to what to do |
| 11:40.33 | Helral|Work | is not an artist :) |
| 11:40.36 | XenoX101 | good thing Agouti isn't an artist |
| 11:40.37 | XenoX101 | SNAP |
| 11:40.42 | Agouti | +1 |
| 11:40.44 | Helral|Work | has work that will be done. |
| 11:40.46 | XenoX101 | sorry |
| 11:40.53 | Agouti | don't be |
| 11:40.57 | Agouti | merely an observation |
| 11:40.58 | Agouti | lol |
| 11:41.06 | Shawn|Rawr | Agouti, make some abilities for my heroes.. or at least think of some |
| 11:41.11 | Agouti | k |
| 11:41.17 | XenoX101 | come to think of it, that explains the high unemployment rate of artists |
| 11:41.17 | Agouti | got a version I can play with? |
| 11:41.25 | Agouti | lol |
| 11:41.33 | Shawn|Rawr | Umm.. it's really hard atm |
| 11:41.37 | Agouti | not that |
| 11:41.38 | Agouti | the map |
| 11:41.57 | Skittles | 0.0 |
| 11:41.59 | Shawn|Rawr | My map? |
| 11:42.02 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm lost |
| 11:42.02 | Agouti | to obscure? |
| 11:42.04 | Skittles | REDEMPTION |
| 11:42.15 | Skittles | hmm |
| 11:42.18 | Skittles | maybe I should name my map that |
| 11:42.19 | Skittles | lol |
| 11:42.32 | Agouti | only if it has dancing hotties in it |
| 11:42.36 | Skittles | Dead Redemption? |
| 11:42.43 | Skittles | Has dancing zombies @.@ |
| 11:42.47 | Shawn|Rawr | Red Dead Redemption? |
| 11:42.53 | Agouti | already exists as a name of something? |
| 11:42.56 | Skittles | ah damn |
| 11:43.00 | Skittles | guess someone took it then |
| 11:43.08 | Agouti | check idk |
| 11:43.11 | Skittles | Meat Fest |
| 11:43.15 | Skittles | Sounds gay.. |
| 11:43.17 | Skittles | lol |
| 11:43.22 | Agouti | really? |
| 11:43.27 | Agouti | why do you figure that |
| 11:43.31 | Agouti | :P |
| 11:43.31 | Shawn|Rawr | http://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption/agegate/ref/?redirect= |
| 11:43.34 | Skittles | Just does. Xd |
| 11:43.47 | Agouti | I thought I'd heard the name before |
| 11:43.49 | Agouti | thanks shawn |
| 11:44.11 | Shawn|Rawr | np. Now to come up with a better name |
| 11:44.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (8d1a4354@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.26.67.84) |
| 11:44.17 | Shawn|Rawr | like.. Ice Hockey Warriors!! |
| 11:44.25 | Agouti | I need a new name for my map |
| 11:44.33 | Agouti | I have 3 problems |
| 11:44.36 | Skittles | No one cares about that agouti |
| 11:44.37 | Skittles | =D |
| 11:44.43 | Shawn|Rawr | Name it DotA.. guaranteed to be a hit |
| 11:44.44 | Agouti | fair enough |
| 11:44.54 | Skittles | Anything with zombie in it too.. |
| 11:44.55 | Skittles | Zombie Dota.. |
| 11:45.05 | Shawn|Rawr | Zombie DotA Wars |
| 11:45.06 | Skittles | heh, could work I guess. |
| 11:45.22 | Skittles | WAIT! |
| 11:45.29 | Skittles | Zombie Dota Nexus Wars |
| 11:45.31 | Skittles | WHOA! |
| 11:45.48 | Shawn|Rawr | Zombie Nexus DotA Wars [Phantom Mode] |
| 11:45.54 | Shawn|Rawr | XD |
| 11:45.56 | Agouti | what about star battles? |
| 11:46.03 | Shawn|Rawr | I've never heard of it |
| 11:46.07 | Agouti | :o |
| 11:46.13 | Agouti | only the #1 most popular map atm |
| 11:46.24 | Shawn|Rawr | Not in my editor it's not |
| 11:46.24 | Agouti | a lot of fun actually |
| 11:46.30 | Skittles | Zillion Zombies @ Nexus Meets Dota |
| 11:46.41 | XenoX101 | Next Zombie Nexus Dota Wars in 20s [Phantom Mode] |
| 11:46.56 | Agouti | thats a huge name |
| 11:47.04 | Shawn|Rawr | It's gonna be a huge hit |
| 11:47.08 | Agouti | *insert penis reference here* |
| 11:47.09 | Skittles | Eh, It's catch tho. |
| 11:47.09 | Skittles | lol |
| 11:47.16 | Skittles | Ehh >.> |
| 11:47.28 | Agouti | to me it's |
| 11:47.28 | Agouti | like |
| 11:47.30 | Agouti | zombie |
| 11:47.31 | Agouti | rpg |
| 11:47.33 | Agouti | survival |
| 11:47.36 | Agouti | that sort of thing |
| 11:47.38 | XenoX101 | Its Next convo in 20s meets Zombie Survival meets Nexus Wars meets Dota meets Phantom Map |
| 11:47.40 | Agouti | freeroam |
| 11:48.01 | Agouti | I would call it (something) Zombie Survival |
| 11:48.11 | Shawn|Rawr | Super |
| 11:48.16 | XenoX101 | ahaha |
| 11:48.17 | XenoX101 | super |
| 11:48.27 | Shawn|Rawr | Zombie Survival 64 |
| 11:48.28 | XenoX101 | the greatest prefix known to man |
| 11:48.34 | Agouti | neg |
| 11:48.34 | Skittles | How about |
| 11:48.35 | Skittles | Dearly Departed |
| 11:48.37 | Agouti | that would be Ultimate |
| 11:48.42 | XenoX101 | oh yeah |
| 11:48.54 | XenoX101 | you know its always great when a game tells you how good it is |
| 11:48.57 | Agouti | how about |
| 11:49.03 | Agouti | Xenox Zombie Survival |
| 11:49.07 | Agouti | done |
| 11:49.10 | XenoX101 | "Guys check out my new map, ULTIMATE defense" |
| 11:49.13 | Skittles | lol, be awesome if the loading screen had a dead guy in a coffin |
| 11:49.18 | XenoX101 | "Well shit, it must be good" |
| 11:49.22 | Skittles | then it finishes loading and suddenly his eyes pop open |
| 11:49.23 | Shawn|Rawr | Oh! |
| 11:49.31 | Shawn|Rawr | Plants vs Zombies Survival |
| 11:49.36 | Agouti | hah |
| 11:49.37 | Skittles | Uuh... |
| 11:49.39 | Agouti | :O |
| 11:49.49 | Agouti | I want to remake PvZ in sc2 now |
| 11:49.53 | Skittles | How about Dearly Departed? |
| 11:49.53 | Agouti | that would be so cool |
| 11:49.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Me too! |
| 11:50.00 | Agouti | dude |
| 11:50.02 | XenoX101 | XenoX Nexus Wars - "Why are there geysers instead of nexus?" |
| 11:50.03 | Agouti | so gotta do it |
| 11:50.05 | Shawn|Rawr | I thought of that as soon as I saw the dialogs |
| 11:50.12 | Skittles | uuh.. |
| 11:50.16 | Agouti | that would just be 10 kinds of win |
| 11:50.24 | Skittles | come on nows... >.> |
| 11:50.30 | Shawn|Rawr | Every unit is a geyser hahaha |
| 11:50.33 | Agouti | PvZ is awesome |
| 11:50.47 | XenoX101 | The loading screen says |
| 11:50.52 | Agouti | it wouldn't be a TC, just a remake |
| 11:50.52 | XenoX101 | SRY GUYS TURN GFX TO LOW I SUCK AT ACTORS |
| 11:51.06 | Agouti | DISREGARD THAT - XENOX SUCKS CAWKS |
| 11:51.26 | Skittles | Zombie Juice |
| 11:51.40 | Shawn|Rawr | I would love to make a game like pvz though |
| 11:51.44 | Skittles | WHO CAREs |
| 11:51.45 | Skittles | lol |
| 11:51.45 | Shawn|Rawr | shouldn't be super difficult |
| 11:52.00 | XenoX101 | what about PbJ? |
| 11:52.17 | XenoX101 | IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME |
| 11:53.37 | Agouti | i care |
| 11:53.45 | Skittles | I gotta go soon |
| 11:53.46 | Agouti | sc2 would lend itself really well to that style |
| 11:53.52 | Skittles | Dearly departed is a yes or a no? |
| 11:54.13 | Skittles | Maybe so? |
| 11:54.39 | Agouti | wheres that link to the zombie game demo |
| 11:54.44 | Skittles | Xd |
| 11:54.52 | Skittles | http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=SC2Mapster |
| 11:54.54 | Skittles | there u go |
| 11:55.03 | Agouti | @__@ |
| 11:55.18 | Agouti | wha? |
| 11:57.23 | Skittles | I'm sorry was that a paradox? |
| 11:57.31 | Agouti | circular reference |
| 11:57.33 | Skittles | You are the paradox |
| 11:57.41 | Skittles | Dearly Departed it is then! |
| 11:57.43 | Agouti | you are the pox |
| 11:57.57 | Agouti | gimme youtube link pls <3 |
| 11:58.03 | Skittles | Anyway, I think i'm going to test my map this weekend. |
| 11:58.03 | XenoX101 | its a paradox, section 9 17 |
| 11:58.04 | Shawn|Rawr | youtube.com |
| 11:58.09 | Skittles | Haven't made a video yet |
| 11:58.14 | Shawn|Rawr | http://www.youtube.com |
| 11:58.31 | Shawn|Rawr | ^^ Youtube link |
| 11:59.20 | Agouti | you have reset my link to it's parent |
| 11:59.30 | Agouti | I needed the child as well |
| 11:59.52 | Skittles | anyway nows |
| 12:00.00 | Skittles | Who wants to test with me? =D |
| 12:00.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dashkal (~dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 12:00.09 | Skittles | This weekend |
| 12:01.13 | XenoX101 | are you...coming on to me skittles? |
| 12:02.14 | Skittles | I'm sweet and delicious.. |
| 12:02.22 | peterpants | whats ur sc2 name skittles |
| 12:02.30 | peterpants | and ya my map will be a lot like troll tribes |
| 12:02.33 | XenoX101 | NO peterpants he's mine! |
| 12:02.38 | XenoX101 | err I mean.. |
| 12:02.44 | Skittles | Skittles |
| 12:02.50 | peterpants | what # |
| 12:02.53 | Agouti | I will |
| 12:02.57 | Skittles | 751 or 753 not sure |
| 12:02.58 | Agouti | cos I'm nice like that |
| 12:03.02 | Agouti | be aware |
| 12:03.09 | Agouti | you will owe me 1x testing session |
| 12:03.12 | Agouti | with a map of my choice |
| 12:03.21 | Agouti | to be disclosed at the time of choosing |
| 12:03.25 | Skittles | Who invited u Ag? |
| 12:03.32 | Agouti | you, of course |
| 12:03.34 | Agouti | I know this |
| 12:03.38 | Skittles | lol |
| 12:03.41 | Skittles | Yeah, sure why not. |
| 12:03.43 | Agouti | ^_^ |
| 12:03.54 | XenoX101 | hey does anyone want to help with my spellcaster map? |
| 12:03.57 | Agouti | though I'm actually pretty much past that level of testing atm |
| 12:04.01 | Agouti | sure |
| 12:04.02 | Agouti | why not |
| 12:04.10 | XenoX101 | anyone except Agouti? |
| 12:04.12 | XenoX101 | jk jk |
| 12:04.13 | Skittles | lol |
| 12:04.21 | Agouti | doesn't bother me ^_^ |
| 12:04.24 | XenoX101 | the more the merrier though :) |
| 12:04.26 | Skittles | About to go to school so ... Xd |
| 12:04.31 | Agouti | especially when I'm in town |
| 12:04.34 | Agouti | booooooooooooya |
| 12:04.44 | Skittles | No one asked if it bothered you |
| 12:04.47 | Skittles | gawd get over your self |
| 12:05.03 | Skittles | god really is a arrogant bastard I bet. lol |
| 12:05.04 | Dogmai | ah |
| 12:05.09 | Dogmai | i wish i had sean paul's voice |
| 12:05.30 | Skittles | see a voice? |
| 12:05.36 | Skittles | so.. like a ghost? |
| 12:07.29 | Shawn|Rawr | You can have T-Pain's voice |
| 12:07.41 | XenoX101 | Agouti |
| 12:07.46 | XenoX101 | it says 'high latency between you and the server' |
| 12:07.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Xen, I'll help if you need me |
| 12:08.12 | XenoX101 | that'd be fantastic :) |
| 12:08.18 | XenoX101 | we be the aussie posse |
| 12:08.22 | Skittles | Fan tastetic? |
| 12:08.33 | XenoX101 | wait |
| 12:08.35 | XenoX101 | are you aussie? |
| 12:08.36 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 12:08.37 | Skittles | All 3 of you are aussie? |
| 12:08.37 | XenoX101 | I forget |
| 12:08.37 | Agouti | that is jesus punishing you for your sins, xen |
| 12:08.48 | Agouti | skittles isn't |
| 12:08.49 | Dogmai | they are gayossies |
| 12:08.56 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm Australian now? Sweet.. |
| 12:08.56 | Dogmai | from the easternbuttcakestates |
| 12:09.00 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 12:09.02 | XenoX101 | ok nvm |
| 12:09.02 | Agouti | he is from some little country nobody cares about |
| 12:09.06 | Agouti | oooooooooooooo |
| 12:09.09 | XenoX101 | where you from anyway? |
| 12:09.22 | Dogmai | sandgroper territory |
| 12:09.29 | Skittles | I'm from a rainbow. |
| 12:09.32 | Shawn|Rawr | Las Vegas.. I mean we have a show called Thunder Down Under, but not much Aussie stuff other than that |
| 12:09.33 | Skittles | I live above you. |
| 12:09.39 | Skittles | I am above you. |
| 12:09.41 | XenoX101 | lol np |
| 12:09.43 | Dogmai | orly |
| 12:09.44 | XenoX101 | Shawn is a very aussie name |
| 12:09.46 | Dogmai | dont shit on my head |
| 12:09.47 | XenoX101 | thats probably how I got mixed up |
| 12:09.55 | Skittles | My name is sahwn too |
| 12:10.01 | Skittles | Shawn |
| 12:10.05 | Shawn|Rawr | I'll be Aussie if you want |
| 12:10.05 | XenoX101 | nobody cares Skittles |
| 12:10.06 | XenoX101 | jk |
| 12:10.10 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 12:10.17 | Skittles | I care, I'm a somebody... I'm pretty sure. |
| 12:10.24 | Shawn|Rawr | I'll tell everyone I'm from Sydney |
| 12:10.38 | XenoX101 | so how can I fix xfire |
| 12:10.40 | XenoX101 | its rooted |
| 12:10.44 | Skittles | Haha you guys talk funny |
| 12:10.48 | Skittles | Haha you guys smell funny |
| 12:10.48 | Shawn|Rawr | Find it's actor events |
| 12:10.54 | Shawn|Rawr | XD |
| 12:10.54 | Skittles | Haha you have wild dogs with funny names |
| 12:10.55 | XenoX101 | har har |
| 12:11.08 | Shawn|Rawr | You make it too easy |
| 12:11.09 | Skittles | Dango? |
| 12:11.12 | Skittles | dongo? |
| 12:11.22 | Shawn|Rawr | Dingo |
| 12:11.23 | Agouti | bbl |
| 12:11.31 | Skittles | Righto |
| 12:12.14 | Shawn|Rawr | I need weapon ideas for Kerrigan |
| 12:12.21 | Shawn|Rawr | Some kind of cool blast |
| 12:12.31 | Agouti | what, like she gest from the campaign |
| 12:12.33 | Agouti | -.- |
| 12:12.35 | Shawn|Rawr | Blast is really the only thing she can do |
| 12:12.44 | XenoX101 | whats the purpose of another weapon |
| 12:12.49 | XenoX101 | (not trying to be smart) |
| 12:12.51 | Shawn|Rawr | I need three weapons |
| 12:12.57 | Shawn|Rawr | for each ehro |
| 12:12.59 | Shawn|Rawr | hero* |
| 12:12.59 | Skittles | You should name your map Outback |
| 12:13.02 | Agouti | ... really? |
| 12:13.10 | XenoX101 | whats the reason for three though |
| 12:13.11 | Agouti | weapons |
| 12:13.13 | Agouti | or skills |
| 12:13.16 | Shawn|Rawr | weapons |
| 12:13.22 | Shawn|Rawr | I want each to have three |
| 12:13.28 | Agouti | I don't want to help with that |
| 12:13.31 | Skittles | Kay I'm leaving |
| 12:13.32 | Skittles | l8er |
| 12:13.32 | XenoX101 | but why will I choose one weapon over another |
| 12:13.36 | Shawn|Rawr | I already have 3 heroes done |
| 12:13.37 | Agouti | seeya skit |
| 12:14.35 | XenoX101 | I guess what I'm trying to get at is whether you want like a big gun, small gun, gun that goes well against little monsters, big monsters |
| 12:15.10 | XenoX101 | infinite possibilities, again not trying to be difficult ;p |
| 12:15.21 | Shawn|Rawr | She can only do blasts because of her animations |
| 12:15.32 | Shawn|Rawr | So I want some kind of variant of her default attack |
| 12:15.53 | Shawn|Rawr | Might give her a psi storm-like weapon actually |
| 12:15.57 | Shawn|Rawr | tint it red |
| 12:16.10 | XenoX101 | yeah that'd work |
| 12:16.32 | XenoX101 | maybe something earth shattering |
| 12:16.42 | XenoX101 | like a shockwave or something |
| 12:17.18 | Shawn|Rawr | So probably her default blast, the psistorm, and then a really awesome giant blast of doom |
| 12:17.43 | Shawn|Rawr | well.. maybe not giant, but it will change the ground |
| 12:18.42 | Shawn|Rawr | Eh, I'm not super worried about it.. and I'm too tired to work right now but that is an awesome idea |
| 12:19.07 | Dogmai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKnw-V5fjBI&feature=aso |
| 12:19.43 | XenoX101 | Agouti |
| 12:19.45 | XenoX101 | is your internet ok? |
| 12:20.03 | XenoX101 | yeah that sounds good Shawn |
| 12:22.12 | Shawn|Rawr | I already have a rainbow archon, rory swann, and jim raynor |
| 12:22.24 | Shawn|Rawr | just stone zealot, kerrigan, and preserver left |
| 12:24.36 | peterpants | does unit type of an inventory item not work correctly? |
| 12:24.59 | peterpants | i'm trying ot get the name of an item to display via deubg |
| 12:25.05 | peterpants | but it's not doing anything |
| 12:25.08 | Shawn|Rawr | Do you have a item to go twith it? |
| 12:25.12 | peterpants | yea |
| 12:25.24 | peterpants | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.43 | peterpants | event is Unit - Any Unit Moves Any Item |
| 12:26.06 | Shawn|Rawr | You can't use name of item? |
| 12:26.12 | peterpants | i dont see it anywhere |
| 12:26.18 | Shawn|Rawr | And idk about the event.. looks like a weird trigger |
| 12:26.36 | Shawn|Rawr | I haven't done anything with items via triggers |
| 12:27.01 | Dogmai | ffs |
| 12:27.03 | Dogmai | noobs |
| 12:27.06 | Dogmai | item is a unit |
| 12:27.14 | Dogmai | i swear to god i teach you guys nothing |
| 12:27.29 | peterpants | right |
| 12:27.29 | Dogmai | :D |
| 12:27.33 | Shawn|Rawr | an item attaches to a unit |
| 12:27.35 | peterpants | which is why i'm using name of unit type |
| 12:27.36 | Shawn|Rawr | or something |
| 12:27.39 | Shawn|Rawr | they are differen |
| 12:27.41 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 12:27.43 | peterpants | which isn't working |
| 12:27.45 | Dogmai | you use name of the unit type *unit type of item* |
| 12:27.55 | peterpants | yea that's what i'm doin |
| 12:28.04 | Dogmai | ill check my code |
| 12:28.07 | peterpants | Debug - Display (Name of (Unit type of (Item carried by (Triggering unit) in 1))) as debug output using Type 1, and Do display it in the game window |
| 12:28.08 | Dogmai | give me 1 min to load it |
| 12:30.04 | Dogmai | yeah it hsould just be a normal unit type |
| 12:30.25 | Dogmai | try using a text message in the chat window |
| 12:30.31 | Dogmai | to see if there is something wrong with the debug |
| 12:30.48 | Shawn|Rawr | i'm guessing the event is wrong |
| 12:30.53 | Dogmai | indeed |
| 12:30.56 | Shawn|Rawr | I don't know what moves means |
| 12:31.00 | Dogmai | its hard to tell without the rest of the code |
| 12:31.05 | Shawn|Rawr | but picks up sounds like a better option |
| 12:31.10 | Dogmai | because that is theoritically right |
| 12:31.26 | peterpants | hmm |
| 12:31.27 | peterpants | it works |
| 12:31.30 | peterpants | but the slots are all jank |
| 12:31.43 | peterpants | i added more debug messages , 1 for each slot |
| 12:31.58 | Dogmai | jank |
| 12:31.59 | peterpants | and it just, it's all messed up slot wise, i think the function is jank |
| 12:32.00 | Dogmai | ? |
| 12:32.15 | Dogmai | are you making custom UI or something |
| 12:32.17 | peterpants | innaccurate |
| 12:32.24 | peterpants | no i'm using blizzard UI |
| 12:32.29 | Dogmai | yes |
| 12:32.31 | peterpants | atm anyway |
| 12:32.34 | Dogmai | because of the way they coded it |
| 12:32.39 | Dogmai | slot 1 does not mean slot 1 |
| 12:32.47 | Dogmai | say you have three items 1 2 3 |
| 12:32.48 | peterpants | what does slot 1 mean then |
| 12:32.50 | Dogmai | in slots a b c |
| 12:32.54 | peterpants | k |
| 12:33.00 | Dogmai | and you drop item 2 from slot b |
| 12:33.07 | Dogmai | then you will have three items 1 3 |
| 12:33.09 | Dogmai | in slots a c |
| 12:33.13 | peterpants | ya |
| 12:33.17 | Dogmai | you pick up a new item |
| 12:33.22 | Dogmai | it will be 4 in slot b |
| 12:33.28 | Dogmai | its the way they coded it |
| 12:33.29 | Dogmai | its stupid |
| 12:33.32 | Dogmai | but its blizzard |
| 12:33.35 | peterpants | that's retarded |
| 12:33.38 | Dogmai | you can code around |
| 12:33.47 | Dogmai | but its too much hastle |
| 12:33.48 | Dogmai | hassle |
| 12:34.01 | peterpants | what is the benefit of that |
| 12:34.10 | Dogmai | nothing |
| 12:34.17 | peterpants | so then you pick up another item and it goes to slot 5? then 6? and so on? |
| 12:34.23 | Dogmai | yes |
| 12:34.28 | peterpants | mh |
| 12:34.31 | peterpants | hm |
| 12:34.33 | Dogmai | its not like wc3 |
| 12:34.35 | peterpants | i dont like it |
| 12:34.38 | Dogmai | where slot 1 was ALWAYS top left |
| 12:34.44 | peterpants | ya, i like that more |
| 12:34.48 | Dogmai | slot 1 is wherever it wants to be |
| 12:34.59 | Dogmai | depending on the order you aquire the items |
| 12:35.03 | Dogmai | when you move an item |
| 12:35.07 | Dogmai | it doesnt change the slot |
| 12:35.09 | Dogmai | it moves the slot |
| 12:35.18 | peterpants | icic |
| 12:35.35 | peterpants | they need to change that |
| 12:35.41 | peterpants | or i guess i could just write my own UI for it |
| 12:37.00 | Dogmai | thats it mate |
| 12:37.02 | Dogmai | i wrote my own ui |
| 12:37.05 | peterpants | i think their idea was about having multiple bags/containers on one unit so the slot idea is easier to work with bu tinstead they should have just said slot X in bag X |
| 12:37.10 | Dogmai | and they wont fix it |
| 12:37.16 | Dogmai | its been discussed by blizzard before |
| 12:37.19 | peterpants | ah |
| 12:37.20 | Dogmai | its written that way for a reason |
| 12:37.24 | Dogmai | i forgot why |
| 12:37.29 | peterpants | fuck em then lol |
| 12:37.46 | Dogmai | you should be able to search sc2mapster |
| 12:37.47 | Dogmai | and find out |
| 12:37.48 | peterpants | yea |
| 12:37.53 | peterpants | i'll take a look, thanks |
| 12:39.26 | Dogmai | np |
| 12:39.43 | Dogmai | if you find out just PM me the reason |
| 12:39.46 | Dogmai | so i know for next time |
| 12:58.29 | Agouti | Well, thinking about it myself - if I have an array storing the stack of each item |
| 12:58.41 | Agouti | if the index didn't change when it was moved |
| 12:58.47 | Agouti | thats one less thing to have to worry about |
| 12:59.00 | Agouti | I wouldn't have to update the "pointers" every time |
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| 13:01.13 | Creation | anyone know how to change the center axis point of a unit? |
| 13:01.38 | Creation | im messing with set pieces with an offset center point, im wondering if that can be adjusted in data |
| 13:02.49 | Agouti | it's part of the .m3 |
| 13:02.58 | Agouti | I believe |
| 13:06.47 | Creation | crap |
| 13:06.55 | Creation | so it cant be changed then? |
| 13:14.56 | peterpants | like for model rotation? |
| 13:15.02 | peterpants | i think it'd have to be with the .m3 |
| 13:15.11 | peterpants | i know you can adjust the selection offset in the model |
| 13:15.28 | peterpants | model data* |
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| 13:19.33 | nolliepoper | how to flip a flame model or actor upsidedown? |
| 13:22.00 | Helral|Work | nolliepoper: if you find out let me know ;p |
| 13:25.25 | Shawn|Rawr | i bet prozaic knows |
| 13:25.47 | Helral|Work | is PM ever online? |
| 13:26.16 | Shawn|Rawr | I don't know.. should look at his tutuorials though.. i think one of them explains how to turn an actor upside down |
| 13:26.25 | Shawn|Rawr | in fact im almost sure that he did that to a wraith |
| 13:26.31 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 13:33.53 | Agouti | pop quiz: curse word 9 letters long |
| 13:34.20 | Helral|Work | curseword ;p |
| 13:35.43 | Creation | nolliepopper i know how |
| 13:36.10 | Creation | You need to create a custom site operation and adjust the parameters |
| 13:36.18 | Creation | then apply it to the model |
| 13:37.02 | Creation | but I dont know how to do it on the fly without swapping out tons of models |
| 13:37.09 | Creation | and thats a pain in the royal ass |
| 13:39.47 | nolliepoper | the helions flame thrower gos in different directions |
| 13:40.05 | nolliepoper | depeding on which direction he is facing |
| 13:41.36 | nolliepoper | everysingle flame model I find is always shooting down, I am looking for it to shoot upward |
| 13:42.03 | XenoX101 | don't be such a downer |
| 13:42.26 | XenoX101 | ;p |
| 13:42.34 | nolliepoper | you know how to change directions? |
| 13:42.41 | XenoX101 | afraid I dont' |
| 13:42.43 | XenoX101 | don't* |
| 13:43.34 | nolliepoper | on the firebat, it shows it shooting down but in game it is sideways |
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| 13:50.48 | Agouti | isn't it effected by the site operator? |
| 13:50.51 | Agouti | like, on the hellion |
| 13:51.01 | Agouti | the flam always comes straight out of the turret |
| 13:53.15 | nolliepoper | I am trying to get a flame to start on an opponents feet and fo up past their head. |
| 13:53.27 | nolliepoper | but it starts at their feet and gos down |
| 13:58.03 | nolliepoper | GEE GEE |
| 14:02.23 | Clord | reminds me... someone in Blizzard has laser obsession clearly |
| 14:02.33 | Agouti | hmm? |
| 14:03.35 | Clord | lol |
| 14:03.39 | Clord | just joking somewhat |
| 14:04.07 | Clord | when it comes to big statue like beings etc.. both in Wow Cataclysm and SCII.. they shoot lasers from their eyes in continuous beams |
| 14:04.08 | Clord | XD |
| 14:04.17 | Agouti | lol |
| 14:05.21 | Clord | that's not all... they all share in their name "colossus" |
| 14:05.22 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:05.26 | Clord | nearly |
| 14:05.33 | Agouti | well |
| 14:05.43 | Agouti | there are only so many words for "big" |
| 14:06.02 | Agouti | aaaanyway it's bed time for me in this little corner of the world |
| 14:06.06 | Agouti | seeyas |
| 14:07.18 | Clord | now we only need colossus shark with lazer beam eyes |
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| 14:10.09 | Alexaz | Hey guys, why cant i hide cells anymore? |
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| 14:37.29 | Alexaz | Hey guys, why cant i hide cells anymore? |
| 14:38.05 | Dustin | Cells of what |
| 14:38.12 | Alexaz | terrain |
| 14:38.24 | Alexaz | its under terrain layer, go to terrain objects |
| 14:38.34 | Alexaz | and hide terrain cells |
| 14:38.39 | Alexaz | it doesnt work anymore |
| 14:47.42 | XenoX101 | who's this Xanox guy on the forums |
| 14:47.45 | XenoX101 | who's he think he is |
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| 14:54.17 | Demonette | Uhm... hi all |
| 14:55.57 | XenoX101 | hello |
| 15:01.36 | Demonette | New patch? oO |
| 15:02.17 | A1win | "tools update" |
| 15:03.36 | Dustin | tools?! |
| 15:03.38 | Dustin | :O |
| 15:05.21 | A1win | I guess a new updater utility or something :P |
| 15:05.40 | A1win | something minor that they needed for some reason... |
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| 15:09.30 | Dustin | there any speculations on 1.2 release? |
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| 15:21.31 | Demonette | well my Sc2 patched... today... |
| 15:21.41 | Demonette | dunno what were the big changes... |
| 15:22.16 | Demonette | Icehot dance off isn't availible for EU =( |
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| 16:01.17 | Vesuvius | PYLON POWER LINES ARE OPERATIONAL |
| 16:01.19 | Vesuvius | MUAHAHAHAHA |
| 16:01.42 | A1win | pylon power lines? |
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| 16:03.29 | Vesuvius | yeah |
| 16:04.10 | Vesuvius | pylons act as extenders of a power field |
| 16:04.25 | Vesuvius | instead of as providers |
| 16:04.32 | A1win | o: |
| 16:04.32 | Vesuvius | i have a warpgate providing power |
| 16:04.41 | Vesuvius | a pylon in its power field can extend the power |
| 16:04.42 | A1win | so they are like creep tumors |
| 16:04.43 | A1win | :P |
| 16:04.49 | Vesuvius | and then a pylon in that pylon's power field |
| 16:04.51 | Vesuvius | haha no |
| 16:04.54 | Vesuvius | I had that already |
| 16:05.00 | Vesuvius | being like creep tumors is easy |
| 16:05.05 | Vesuvius | if you cut off a creep tumor in the middle |
| 16:05.14 | A1win | ah true |
| 16:05.14 | Vesuvius | the tumors on either side keep power |
| 16:05.16 | Vesuvius | :P |
| 16:05.31 | Vesuvius | that i had just by requiring pylon power to warp in a pylon :P |
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| 16:05.39 | A1win | ;x |
| 16:06.24 | A1win | uff I have a headache, can't focus on zombie AI |
| 16:06.42 | Vesuvius | just implement minimax |
| 16:06.47 | Vesuvius | it's only an infinite gametree |
| 16:06.49 | Vesuvius | should be no problem |
| 16:06.50 | Vesuvius | :P |
| 16:06.57 | A1win | ;p |
| 16:07.13 | A1win | nah I already know what I need to do |
| 16:07.38 | A1win | but if I'm not focused I'll just do it in a bad way and have to fix it later :P |
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| 16:10.27 | Agouti | OK, I think I'm addicted |
| 16:10.44 | Agouti | I went to go to bed like 2.5 hours ago, but had to make a change I thought of while falling asleep |
| 16:10.47 | Agouti | ANYWAY |
| 16:11.55 | Dustin | lol |
| 16:12.24 | Agouti | I have a Radar effect showing blips for nuetral units... can't seem to find where I can shove a validator/flag in to it |
| 16:12.33 | Agouti | probably something to do with 3am |
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| 16:14.44 | Agouti | never mind, found it |
| 16:14.51 | Agouti | assuming anybody was minding in the first place |
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| 16:20.40 | XenoX101 | if I make hybrid destroyer as the damage spell casting wizard, will everyone pick him? |
| 16:21.55 | Agouti | only if you don't ignore agouti |
| 16:21.57 | Agouti | meanie. |
| 16:26.47 | Agouti | Also, someone had an idea earlier for hotkeying a neutral unit, with forcing it with triggers - doesn't work |
| 16:26.58 | Agouti | anyway 'm really off to bed this time |
| 16:27.19 | XenoX101 | night |
| 16:28.20 | Agouti | make sure hybrid destroyer has cast animations |
| 16:28.22 | Agouti | not sure it does |
| 16:28.25 | Agouti | seeeeya |
| 16:28.44 | XenoX101 | k |
| 16:28.56 | A1win | kerrigan has cast animations ;x |
| 16:29.18 | Vesuvius | now i just need to figure out how to make the pylon power still display when you select it lol |
| 16:29.28 | XenoX101 | yes I am using kerrigan too |
| 16:31.59 | XenoX101 | well I'm off |
| 16:32.00 | XenoX101 | g'nite |
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| 16:40.45 | Vesuvius | you know what sucks about pylons? |
| 16:40.49 | Vesuvius | they don't have a powered down anim |
| 16:40.50 | Vesuvius | :( |
| 16:41.11 | A1win | tint them darker? :x |
| 16:41.11 | Dustin | Why would they? they are the power supplys |
| 16:41.43 | Vesuvius | because i have made them pylon power lines |
| 16:41.52 | Vesuvius | tinting could work, but it's not as impressive as a full depower |
| 16:41.59 | Vesuvius | i may just switch them to be obelisks |
| 16:42.01 | Vesuvius | lol |
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| 17:04.39 | Jygga | is there a good night of the living dead conversion from wc3 yet? |
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| 17:17.03 | Vesuvius | so now i have obelisk power lines :) |
| 17:17.05 | Vesuvius | awesome |
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| 17:41.51 | Vesuvius | helral i got the power lines working :P |
| 17:42.00 | Vesuvius | i needed to put a little delay on secondary searches |
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| 18:11.40 | Jygga | hmmm char tower defense takes the power tower principle but really fucks up the balancing 8/ |
| 18:12.42 | Jygga | Vesuvius are you trying to do sth like power tower? seen char tower def? |
| 18:13.08 | Vesuvius | i dont know what power tower is |
| 18:13.13 | Vesuvius | I'm nota big fan of TDs |
| 18:13.14 | Vesuvius | :P |
| 18:13.17 | Jygga | wc3 custom map |
| 18:13.27 | Vesuvius | i barely played wc3 |
| 18:13.34 | Vesuvius | i'm sure people have done this before |
| 18:13.50 | Vesuvius | i've actually seen it other games |
| 18:13.52 | Vesuvius | like UaW |
| 18:14.11 | Vesuvius | it's completely working now though :) |
| 18:14.32 | Vesuvius | and I can use the same technique to create any sort of chain effect |
| 18:14.35 | Vesuvius | which is cool |
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| 18:16.24 | Alexaz | any idea how to make a unit walk in a orbit? |
| 18:18.43 | Vesuvius | anyone know how to fix the bug in the trigger editor |
| 18:18.51 | Vesuvius | where all the event and action categories are doubled? |
| 18:24.29 | Alexaz | anyone knows how to fix hide/show cells? |
| 18:24.31 | Alexaz | its fucked up |
| 18:24.35 | Alexaz | in the editor |
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| 18:24.58 | Tordy | what ht eheck!?!!?! |
| 18:25.24 | Tordy | woah |
| 18:25.28 | Tordy | the update is coming out!? |
| 18:28.05 | Tolkfan | tools patch |
| 18:28.14 | Tolkfan | 2nd one today |
| 18:29.47 | nicoli_s | so 1.2 is launching today? |
| 18:32.30 | Tolkfan | patches usually come out on wednesday |
| 18:33.51 | Tordy | whuoh |
| 18:33.53 | Tordy | hi Tolkfan |
| 18:34.09 | Alexaz | any idea how to make a unit walk in a orbit? |
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| 18:37.01 | Tolkfan | someone said my name, then the chat client crashed :O |
| 18:39.08 | Vesuvius | tolkfan |
| 18:39.12 | Vesuvius | gogogo |
| 18:39.17 | Vesuvius | :P |
| 18:40.25 | Tolkfan | nope, still here |
| 18:42.15 | Vesuvius | clearly the correlation there was not due to a causal relationship :( |
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| 19:06.43 | Alexaz | how do i make a unit not change color depending on player's team? |
| 19:07.06 | Alexaz | and in where do i change the HDR setting? Actors or model? |
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| 19:11.37 | Vesuvius | alexaz there's a lighting editor in the window menu |
| 19:11.59 | Vesuvius | i dont think they'd let you change hdr on individual units |
| 19:16.41 | A1win | you can, just send SetTint actor message with less HDR multiplier |
| 19:19.51 | Vesuvius | that's just weird lol |
| 19:20.08 | Vesuvius | doesn't that fuck up their tone mapping? |
| 19:25.39 | Tolkfan | umm... my map is still "awaiting approval", if I give someone the link, will they be able to download it? or will they get a "not found" error? |
| 19:26.47 | A1win | Vesuvius, it's just HDR scale so it just makes it less/more intensive |
| 19:26.59 | A1win | of the original |
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| 19:30.53 | Demonette | Hi Stuffies |
| 19:31.02 | Vesuvius | anyone know how to fix the duplicate label bug in the trigger editor? |
| 19:37.11 | Demonette | need an idea for a icon shop ! =P |
| 19:37.17 | Demonette | well |
| 19:37.24 | Demonette | for the logo of the icon shop |
| 19:39.23 | Alexaz | does any1 know an effect that looks something like http://www.rally-alliance.com/guides/portal/cyno.jpg |
| 19:39.32 | Alexaz | it doesn't have to be exactly same |
| 19:40.27 | Alexaz | do you guys can eve see my messages? |
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| 19:48.27 | Vesuvius | no, we're blind |
| 19:49.46 | A1win | 99% of the time on IRC when it doesn't work, you know it, and in most cases you even know WHY it doesn't work :P and most of the time it does work |
| 19:49.49 | A1win | irc ftw |
| 19:50.54 | A1win | though well, if you're about timeout, then it takes a bit of time before you know that it doesnt' work |
| 19:51.23 | A1win | but if you're unsure you can always ping someone ;p |
| 19:58.36 | Vesuvius | anyone know how to get charges to display on a warp train ability? |
| 19:58.45 | Vesuvius | instead of the number of warpgates you have selected |
| 20:00.20 | Vesuvius | actually nvm |
| 20:00.28 | Vesuvius | i thought of a better mechanic |
| 20:04.29 | Alexaz | how do i make a unit not change color depending on player's team? |
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| 20:11.46 | ThunderLord | Hey does anyone have any idea why my camera violently shakes whenever i use varables to set its yaw? there is a var changing the yaw every .1 seconds but the camera only shakes when it is between like 90 and 270 degrees |
| 20:12.06 | ThunderLord | i just want it to smoothly rotate around the target |
| 20:12.36 | Xapti | Alexaz there a command called set team color |
| 20:13.07 | Xapti | pretty sure it's an actor message. You can set that to anything you want |
| 20:13.44 | Xapti | optionally, I think you can also set the player color of each plyer to the same thing in player settings, that might work too |
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| 20:42.25 | Alexaz | how do i make a unit be visible via FOW? |
| 20:42.28 | Alexaz | like doodads/ |
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| 20:51.53 | ThunderLord | So i have been making a map with a WASD system, i did a deal where you bind the WASD keys to hotkeys to reduce lag, it helps for when you press the keys, but i still get a big delay whenever i have to use the "Pressed key up" event because i cannot bind a hotkey to being pressed up, does anyone have any suggestions for this? |
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| 21:03.34 | Xapti | what are you using pressed key up for? |
| 21:05.36 | Xapti | Anyone know is it possible to anchor text to the screen (not to the environment) without using a dialog? |
| 21:05.59 | Xapti | oh maybe just make dialog background transparent I guess |
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| 21:28.00 | Dustin | Xapti, yeah make it transparent and you're golden |
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| 21:59.53 | Xapti | waaah |
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| 22:03.46 | Xapti | damn sc2 editor memory leaking |
| 22:04.06 | Dustin | Fucking netsplits |
| 22:04.10 | Xapti | seems to leak if I leave the terrain editor window open |
| 22:04.21 | Dustin | I leave mine open all day at home |
| 22:04.33 | Dustin | runs fine when I get home |
| 22:04.48 | Xapti | i used to |
| 22:04.58 | Xapti | but then one day, it just starting leaking if i left it open |
| 22:05.02 | Dustin | Weird |
| 22:05.15 | Xapti | I came back once and it crashed due to "out of meory" |
| 22:05.31 | Xapti | anoher time I left it open while I was around and it was using like 4GB of memory |
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| 22:06.01 | Dustin | OH shit that's not good :P |
| 22:06.03 | Xapti | right now it was using 1.1GB. Normally It should be between like 500-650MB for me. |
| 22:17.28 | wOlfLinG | Is it bad to have WoW, SC2 and the SC2 editor open at once? |
| 22:17.41 | Helral | not for me ;p |
| 22:18.02 | Helral | I used to have sc2, sc2editor, WoW and some more stuff open. |
| 22:18.14 | wOlfLinG | I also have Chrome open and am playing Portal ^^ |
| 22:18.22 | Helral | lol |
| 22:18.31 | Helral | think I was playing another valve game. |
| 22:18.35 | wOlfLinG | No idea why WoW, SC2 or the editor are open. They just are |
| 22:18.38 | Helral | at that time when I had most opened. |
| 22:18.44 | Helral | ow I also had D2 opened. |
| 22:18.48 | wOlfLinG | lol, nice |
| 22:18.54 | Dustin | Damn you people and your nice computers :P |
| 22:18.58 | Dustin | I need to upgrade bad |
| 22:18.59 | wOlfLinG | Un-needed memory usage FTW! |
| 22:19.23 | Dustin | Still got a Dualcore 2.1 and 4 gigs of ram and an Nvidia 8600 gt |
| 22:19.32 | Dustin | It sucks |
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| 22:19.56 | Reves | i see |
| 22:20.03 | Dustin | also |
| 22:20.05 | Dustin | It's 4:20 |
| 22:20.15 | Dustin | Smoke up! |
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| 22:21.06 | Alderis | Anyone here on US Bnet willing to help our team do a Stress Test on a Hero Line Wars Map? |
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| 22:22.40 | Helral | most likely there is. ;p |
| 22:25.10 | Skittles | Hiya |
| 22:25.13 | Alderis | sup |
| 22:25.18 | Skittles | Roof. |
| 22:25.19 | Skittles | You |
| 22:25.31 | Dustin | Sky |
| 22:25.41 | Alderis | theres also a rainbow up there too |
| 22:25.46 | Dustin | Double Rainbow? |
| 22:25.50 | Alderis | lol |
| 22:26.10 | Alderis | if skittles is on my roof then yes |
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| 22:26.55 | Skittles | My father is a rainbow. |
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| 22:27.56 | Xapti | LOL I tried adding a casting animation to this unit's ability |
| 22:27.56 | Bibendus | mm |
| 22:28.02 | Bibendus | is there an easy way to rotate an actor |
| 22:28.06 | Bibendus | a doodad |
| 22:28.10 | Xapti | on my first attempt he goes into a elepetic shock |
| 22:28.11 | Bibendus | by trigger |
| 22:28.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster Helral (Helral@217-19-26-88.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 22:28.20 | Bibendus | hi kitty |
| 22:28.21 | Xapti | *epilectic |
| 22:28.25 | Bibendus | meow |
| 22:28.25 | Skittles | yeah |
| 22:28.29 | Skittles | ctrl left click |
| 22:28.36 | Skittles | oh trigger |
| 22:28.46 | Skittles | It's not hard? |
| 22:28.51 | Skittles | Send it a actor message |
| 22:28.53 | Bibendus | trig trig |
| 22:28.56 | Bibendus | there is nt |
| 22:28.58 | Bibendus | a rotate trigger |
| 22:28.59 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:29.03 | Skittles | There is. |
| 22:29.06 | Skittles | sec |
| 22:29.08 | Xapti | how do I choose what dance animation plays for a unit |
| 22:29.16 | Bibendus | there is one but seems fake |
| 22:29.16 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:29.24 | Xapti | marauder has 3 animations for dance, but I just want to use 1 of them for his casting ability |
| 22:29.33 | Skittles | http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=SC2Mapster |
| 22:29.35 | Skittles | ah |
| 22:29.37 | Skittles | set facing |
| 22:29.38 | Bibendus | oh facing |
| 22:29.38 | Skittles | is name |
| 22:29.38 | Bibendus | ! |
| 22:29.40 | Dustin | ^ |
| 22:29.41 | Bibendus | foudn it now |
| 22:29.41 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:29.45 | Skittles | ;P |
| 22:29.48 | Dustin | Was just typing that :P |
| 22:29.49 | Bibendus | tx :D |
| 22:29.53 | Bibendus | stupid facing |
| 22:29.54 | Bibendus | rotating |
| 22:29.55 | Bibendus | sucking |
| 22:30.00 | Skittles | haha yeah |
| 22:30.04 | Skittles | actor message names are wac |
| 22:30.06 | Skittles | wack |
| 22:30.30 | Skittles | oh didn't cnp as text, duh. Xd |
| 22:31.35 | Skittles | So how goes the hive? |
| 22:34.09 | nolliepoper | does anyone want to help me out on some gay stuff |
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| 22:34.57 | Bibendus | i m |
| 22:35.01 | Bibendus | doing the rooms decorations |
| 22:35.12 | Bibendus | with actor messages |
| 22:35.22 | Bibendus | and they should seem random and cool |
| 22:35.27 | Bibendus | with random rotations and scale |
| 22:35.32 | Skittles | mmhmm |
| 22:35.34 | nolliepoper | I made a model and actor a spell |
| 22:35.39 | Skittles | I did something like that with my zombies |
| 22:35.42 | nolliepoper | I believe instant impact of this model idk |
| 22:35.46 | Bibendus | but they ar eunits |
| 22:35.46 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:35.48 | Bibendus | are |
| 22:35.55 | nolliepoper | but the flame is going the wrong direction |
| 22:36.03 | Skittles | Did random heights and random speed |
| 22:36.35 | Bibendus | not the same things lol |
| 22:37.16 | nolliepoper | Bid you know how to change the flame to shoot up |
| 22:37.28 | Bibendus | i suck at data editing |
| 22:37.29 | Skittles | so in someways, dungeon keeper is like black and whtie, right? |
| 22:37.34 | Bibendus | all my spells are trigger made so i don't know :D |
| 22:37.35 | Skittles | Same idea tho. |
| 22:37.39 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 22:37.40 | Bibendus | someway |
| 22:37.45 | Bibendus | because u cant control directly your minions |
| 22:37.51 | Bibendus | but its quite different |
| 22:37.51 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:37.57 | Skittles | mmhmm |
| 22:38.27 | Skittles | I was more or less just talkinga bout the "god hand" feature |
| 22:38.28 | Bibendus | it missess all building and traps and possession thing |
| 22:38.33 | Bibendus | that makes dk the best strategic game |
| 22:38.44 | Bibendus | its full of god hand games |
| 22:38.45 | Skittles | mmhmm |
| 22:38.47 | Bibendus | take populous |
| 22:38.48 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:38.53 | Dustin | It's Like Majesty |
| 22:38.54 | Bibendus | i think it was the first one |
| 22:38.56 | Dustin | I lvoe that fucking game |
| 22:39.08 | Bibendus | with a real god hand |
| 22:39.17 | Skittles | i c |
| 22:39.19 | Bibendus | btw |
| 22:39.21 | Bibendus | i made a cool trigger |
| 22:39.25 | Skittles | Majesty was okay. |
| 22:39.25 | Bibendus | for random placing actors |
| 22:39.33 | Skittles | oh? |
| 22:39.47 | Xapti | marauder has 3 animations for dance, but I just want to use 1 of them for his casting ability, how would I do that? |
| 22:39.50 | Bibendus | giving params for random scale |
| 22:39.52 | Bibendus | random position |
| 22:39.53 | Bibendus | amount |
| 22:39.56 | Bibendus | random distance |
| 22:39.59 | Bibendus | and gg :D |
| 22:40.06 | Bibendus | u ll see the result |
| 22:40.18 | Bibendus | when i m able to make it work |
| 22:40.25 | Bibendus | for now i did all without testing |
| 22:40.29 | Bibendus | from 3 dayz |
| 22:43.29 | Skittles | Sounds icky |
| 22:43.30 | Skittles | lol |
| 22:43.38 | Bibendus | and now |
| 22:43.40 | Bibendus | the moment of truth |
| 22:43.41 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:43.49 | Bibendus | 1k rows of code to test at the same time |
| 22:43.50 | Skittles | haha yeah |
| 22:43.50 | Bibendus | gg |
| 22:43.59 | Skittles | u use galaxy? |
| 22:44.06 | Bibendus | nope |
| 22:44.13 | Skittles | btw u did that one game right |
| 22:44.14 | Bibendus | i hate writing when i have a cool gui like that |
| 22:44.18 | Bibendus | yep |
| 22:44.19 | Skittles | beat em up or something like that |
| 22:44.22 | Bibendus | btw i just made 1 single function |
| 22:44.25 | Bibendus | to send actor strings |
| 22:44.28 | Bibendus | as messages |
| 22:44.34 | Bibendus | crush company |
| 22:44.37 | Skittles | yeah taht |
| 22:44.38 | Bibendus | still with gui triggers |
| 22:44.44 | Skittles | you know your zergling? |
| 22:44.48 | Skittles | How it pounced at the enemy? |
| 22:44.51 | Bibendus | yep |
| 22:44.56 | Bibendus | phisic trigger |
| 22:45.03 | Bibendus | like the hero jumping |
| 22:45.06 | Skittles | yeah i got jumps and all taht |
| 22:45.07 | Bibendus | with collisions like projectiles |
| 22:45.12 | Skittles | yeah hmm what was my question tho |
| 22:45.13 | Skittles | lol |
| 22:45.15 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:45.20 | Skittles | oh. |
| 22:45.21 | Vesuvius | is it possible to modify the 200 supply limit? |
| 22:45.22 | Bibendus | i just applied the collision as i did with projectile |
| 22:45.23 | Skittles | Basically you just |
| 22:45.30 | Bibendus | just when the unit had the behavior of jumping |
| 22:45.39 | Skittles | had him going at a certain max height until it hit a unit? |
| 22:45.43 | Bibendus | so the collision don't activate when the unit don't have the behavior |
| 22:45.53 | Bibendus | mm do u mean |
| 22:45.58 | Bibendus | for the height collision check? |
| 22:46.09 | Skittles | nvm idk why im even asking tbh |
| 22:46.23 | Skittles | I think rather then needing to know how, it was just something I put on my to do list |
| 22:46.28 | Bibendus | holy fuck it gives some errors |
| 22:46.31 | Bibendus | but it seems to work lol |
| 22:46.33 | Skittles | lol |
| 22:46.39 | Skittles | hide errors in game ftw |
| 22:46.46 | Skittles | no one shall ever know! |
| 22:46.46 | Bibendus | btw i just used the wrong actor type :D |
| 22:46.51 | Bibendus | lolz |
| 22:46.54 | Skittles | lol |
| 22:47.04 | Bibendus | btw do u need to know |
| 22:47.08 | Bibendus | how i did the height collision check? |
| 22:47.18 | Bibendus | i can tell you easily |
| 22:47.18 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:47.26 | Skittles | Uh, doesn't sound hard? |
| 22:47.40 | Skittles | just to make sure the unit isn't way below you or w/e? |
| 22:47.41 | Bibendus | but i made it |
| 22:47.43 | Bibendus | with a cool idea |
| 22:47.45 | Bibendus | ;) |
| 22:47.52 | Bibendus | the 2d collision is normal check |
| 22:47.54 | Bibendus | of range |
| 22:47.57 | Skittles | Or do you mean to make it so units wouldn't move from under the ling even tho the ing was on top |
| 22:48.03 | Bibendus | but adding the unit radius |
| 22:48.08 | Bibendus | yep |
| 22:48.09 | Bibendus | u can jump them |
| 22:48.13 | Bibendus | and they won't collide |
| 22:48.22 | Skittles | hmm |
| 22:48.25 | Dustin | Disabled collision on height modify? |
| 22:48.30 | Bibendus | collisions are made between cylinders |
| 22:48.42 | Bibendus | i used |
| 22:48.43 | Skittles | meh to much to think atm, I should just doet when I get to it. =D |
| 22:48.43 | Bibendus | unit supplies |
| 22:48.50 | Bibendus | to set in data editing the height of each unit |
| 22:48.59 | Bibendus | then i use it to check the unit tallness |
| 22:48.59 | Dustin | Ahhh |
| 22:49.01 | Bibendus | :P |
| 22:49.02 | Bibendus | rofl |
| 22:49.14 | Bibendus | so i can sum the unit height + unit tallness |
| 22:49.18 | Bibendus | to check if the missile collides |
| 22:49.25 | Bibendus | first check 2d collision |
| 22:49.27 | Skittles | couldn't u have just gave the ling jumping 0 priority? |
| 22:49.30 | Bibendus | then check z collision |
| 22:49.31 | Dustin | Dont units have a custom field? |
| 22:49.36 | Dustin | I know we did in WC3 |
| 22:49.37 | Bibendus | yep they have |
| 22:49.41 | Bibendus | but u cant set it in data editing |
| 22:49.42 | Bibendus | so it's boring :P |
| 22:49.44 | Dustin | Ahhh lame |
| 22:49.51 | Bibendus | i would have needed a switch trigger to set it |
| 22:49.57 | Dustin | Yeah fuck that |
| 22:49.58 | Bibendus | skitties what priority? |
| 22:50.03 | Skittles | custom values go to like 70 now instead of 1 now. |
| 22:50.10 | Bibendus | only 70? |
| 22:50.13 | Skittles | Unit priority, so units think the ling is wimpy |
| 22:50.13 | Dustin | Wha |
| 22:50.14 | Tolkfan | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/sc1-backwater-station-remake/ <-- play this map! ... or at least fill out the poll on the sidebar :P |
| 22:50.15 | Skittles | yeah lol |
| 22:50.17 | Skittles | so funny too |
| 22:50.24 | Bibendus | why priority? :D |
| 22:50.25 | Dustin | I wish we could set unit priority via triggers |
| 22:50.32 | Skittles | blizz started it at 100 when u click on it to use the custom value |
| 22:50.40 | Skittles | but it wont work at 100 |
| 22:50.40 | Xapti | you can check unit tallness? |
| 22:50.43 | Skittles | only like 0-70 |
| 22:50.52 | Bibendus | i dont get |
| 22:50.52 | Dustin | Xapti, he hacked a way to do it :P |
| 22:50.54 | Xapti | ho do you check unit tallnes |
| 22:50.55 | Bibendus | what are u talking about |
| 22:50.56 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:51.07 | Bibendus | i set unit tallness for each unit |
| 22:51.08 | Dustin | No way custom value will only work 1-70 |
| 22:51.08 | Skittles | wasn't talking about unit priority for awhile now.. |
| 22:51.10 | Bibendus | manually |
| 22:51.13 | Xapti | ooh |
| 22:51.21 | Bibendus | i decided marine was 1 |
| 22:51.23 | Bibendus | i think |
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| 22:51.39 | Bibendus | and i think it was the blizzard measure meter |
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| 22:51.54 | Xapti | you guys want to play a dodge ball game I made? |
| 22:51.54 | Bibendus | because the height in game should be based on marine height |
| 22:52.05 | Bibendus | sry fixing my rooms :D |
| 22:52.29 | Bibendus | why my set scale actor message doesnt work :| |
| 22:52.43 | Bibendus | SetScale 2.000000, 2.000000, 2.000000 |
| 22:52.48 | Xapti | marauder has 3 animations for dance, but I just want to use 1 of them for his casting ability, does anyone how would I do that? |
| 22:53.03 | Bibendus | isn't that correct? |
| 22:53.14 | Xapti | sounds rigt |
| 22:53.15 | Bibendus | by trigger |
| 22:53.19 | Bibendus | u can start an animation where u want |
| 22:53.22 | Bibendus | and stop it as the same |
| 22:53.41 | Bibendus | just care because if the unit moves |
| 22:53.47 | Bibendus | it resets the current animation |
| 22:53.55 | Bibendus | so u need to work on data editing |
| 22:53.56 | Xapti | I don't want to use triggers though, it's for ability casting, there's built in functionality to do it with actor events |
| 22:53.59 | Bibendus | to fix it |
| 22:54.08 | Bibendus | then i don't know |
| 22:54.08 | Xapti | I have it play a random of the 3 daces already |
| 22:54.12 | Bibendus | i did it with triggers only :D |
| 22:54.16 | Xapti | but I don't know how to make it not-random |
| 22:56.51 | Skittles | back |
| 22:57.10 | Skittles | I had some problems like that b4 bi |
| 22:57.18 | Skittles | try using absolute value instead |
| 22:58.33 | Bibendus | aaah i fucking love it |
| 22:58.34 | Bibendus | IT WORKS |
| 22:58.44 | Bibendus | sell doesnt work correctly but who cares |
| 22:58.47 | Bibendus | it's fucking niceeeeeeeee |
| 22:58.48 | Bibendus | screen? :D |
| 22:58.55 | Skittles | sure |
| 22:58.55 | Skittles | lol |
| 22:59.52 | JManV | i ended up making a sell dialog |
| 23:00.38 | Skittles | gratz are in order? |
| 23:00.50 | Bibendus | uploaaaaading |
| 23:01.17 | Skittles | tinypic.com ftw |
| 23:02.08 | Bibendus | http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7998/screenshot2010121700054.jpg |
| 23:02.08 | Bibendus | http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7998/screenshot2010121700054.jpg |
| 23:02.08 | Bibendus | http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6065/screenshot2010121700062.jpg |
| 23:02.47 | Bibendus | need to fix the scale thing |
| 23:03.25 | Bibendus | it gives me error and just ignore the actor message |
| 23:03.44 | Bibendus | so skittles? :D |
| 23:04.37 | Skittles | sec |
| 23:05.35 | Skittles | looks like they have the same space still inbetween. Good though. Good noticeable variation for the same doodad. |
| 23:07.00 | Alderis | Any takers for helping us do a beta test with a Hero Line Wars map on US servers? gonna try and start in the next 5 minutes. |
| 23:07.38 | Bibendus | not |
| 23:07.40 | Bibendus | the thing |
| 23:07.44 | Bibendus | the guard room |
| 23:07.48 | Bibendus | has random amount |
| 23:07.48 | Bibendus | 2-4 |
| 23:07.50 | Bibendus | with random position |
| 23:08.08 | Skittles | oh the room it self |
| 23:08.09 | Skittles | gotcha |
| 23:08.25 | Bibendus | the thing |
| 23:08.32 | Bibendus | with lightened tendrils |
| 23:08.39 | Bibendus | they are still too near |
| 23:08.45 | Bibendus | and with wrong scale |
| 23:09.11 | Bibendus | why they dont take |
| 23:09.16 | Bibendus | my fuckin actor message |
| 23:09.17 | Bibendus | agh |
| 23:09.25 | Bibendus | Invalid actor msg: Msg[SetScale 1.000000, 2.000000, 3.000000] |
| 23:09.25 | Bibendus | 00 |
| 23:09.34 | Skittles | told u |
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| 23:09.40 | Skittles | try using absolute scale message isntead |
| 23:10.14 | Reves | Anyone know how to return a Catalog ID using a catalog name? |
| 23:10.31 | Bibendus | not a real? |
| 23:10.35 | Demonette | What will be the chickens for Hivekeeper? XD |
| 23:10.47 | Bibendus | wait |
| 23:10.47 | Bibendus | mm |
| 23:10.50 | Bibendus | i made a 2 2 2 |
| 23:10.51 | Bibendus | and it works |
| 23:11.29 | Demonette | no chickens for the hive? |
| 23:12.17 | Bibendus | federlings |
| 23:12.18 | Bibendus | :D |
| 23:12.22 | Bibendus | feederlings |
| 23:12.29 | Bibendus | they are more cool |
| 23:13.40 | Bibendus | and btw |
| 23:13.45 | Bibendus | there was no hatchery in these screens |
| 23:16.09 | Xapti | anyone like designing levels/arenas/maps? |
| 23:17.13 | Demonette | =D nice and so the drones will eat the feederlings? =D |
| 23:17.16 | Demonette | cool stuff =P |
| 23:20.18 | Bibendus | no drones never eat |
| 23:25.27 | Shawn|Rawr | You monster |
| 23:25.33 | Shawn|Rawr | Starving them all?! |
| 23:26.18 | JManV | isn't a drone's primary source of food minerals? |
| 23:26.21 | Skittles | No, they're like plants. |
| 23:26.34 | Bibendus | and now |
| 23:26.37 | Bibendus | another moment of truth |
| 23:26.50 | Bibendus | they are supported by |
| 23:26.52 | Bibendus | mana |
| 23:26.52 | JManV | wait, don't the overlords provide food? |
| 23:26.54 | Bibendus | in this case |
| 23:26.56 | Bibendus | vespene |
| 23:26.56 | Bibendus | :D |
| 23:27.04 | Skittles | so they have lots of gas? |
| 23:27.16 | JManV | that'll happen |
| 23:27.18 | Shawn|Rawr | Hatcheries provide good too, but I see no overlords and no hatcheries |
| 23:27.24 | Shawn|Rawr | food* |
| 23:27.41 | JManV | hmmm |
| 23:27.48 | JManV | somehow protoss units eat from pylons |
| 23:28.03 | Shawn|Rawr | They use energy to live |
| 23:28.15 | JManV | for aiur! |
| 23:28.52 | JManV | i'm known to eat power all the time |
| 23:28.55 | nolliepoper | JManV how to make this flamestrike not behind my enemy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wte19Zw_hRQ |
| 23:28.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Ever notice that the more a unit eats, the stronger he is? Isn't that somehow supporting obesity? |
| 23:29.02 | JManV | then i usually go to the doctor |
| 23:29.17 | Bibendus | aaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 23:29.19 | Bibendus | skittlessssss |
| 23:29.20 | Bibendus | aaaaaaaaaa |
| 23:29.28 | Skittles | aaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 23:29.30 | Bibendus | now the guard rooms |
| 23:29.33 | Bibendus | are crazy awesome |
| 23:29.33 | Bibendus | ! |
| 23:29.34 | Skittles | Bibendus |
| 23:29.36 | Skittles | aaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 23:29.38 | Skittles | lol |
| 23:29.40 | JManV | nollie: no idea |
| 23:29.42 | Skittles | Show me show me |
| 23:29.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Show him show him |
| 23:30.01 | nolliepoper | skittles does know how? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wte19Zw_hRQ |
| 23:30.02 | Skittles | lol been sitting here a hour and a half and can't think of what to do with my map |
| 23:30.15 | Skittles | idk anything really about data spells |
| 23:30.18 | Shawn|Rawr | Do *it* |
| 23:30.33 | Skittles | eh >.> |
| 23:30.34 | Shawn|Rawr | I like data spells |
| 23:30.51 | Skittles | trigger spells are so much easier n faster =D |
| 23:30.55 | Skittles | usually |
| 23:30.56 | Bibendus | rdy |
| 23:30.58 | Bibendus | for that??? |
| 23:31.01 | Skittles | sure |
| 23:31.01 | Bibendus | ARE YOU FUCKING READY? |
| 23:31.06 | Skittles | k |
| 23:31.07 | Bibendus | for the awesomeness! |
| 23:31.07 | Skittles | WAIT |
| 23:31.11 | Skittles | LET ME GET MY BEER HAT |
| 23:31.11 | nolliepoper | Shown how to fix my data spell |
| 23:31.13 | Bibendus | all guys be ready |
| 23:31.31 | Bibendus | for a room with random generated doodads |
| 23:31.32 | Skittles | gogogo! |
| 23:31.41 | Skittles | lol it's all random? |
| 23:31.41 | Bibendus | http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5105/screenshot2010121700363.jpg |
| 23:31.44 | Bibendus | yep |
| 23:31.46 | Bibendus | noone dared |
| 23:31.50 | Bibendus | to do something like that! |
| 23:31.52 | Bibendus | by trigger! |
| 23:32.06 | Skittles | neat |
| 23:32.18 | Skittles | but not what i meant when I said all random doodads |
| 23:32.25 | Skittles | sounded like you used any doodad |
| 23:32.33 | Bibendus | i mean |
| 23:32.35 | Skittles | not variations =D |
| 23:32.36 | Bibendus | there is a random number of tiles |
| 23:32.41 | Bibendus | nope they have variations |
| 23:32.41 | Bibendus | :| |
| 23:32.52 | Skittles | yeah |
| 23:33.06 | Skittles | Thought you were talking about the doodad it self being randomly picked |
| 23:33.08 | Bibendus | but they are 2-4 |
| 23:33.09 | Bibendus | so |
| 23:33.10 | Skittles | not just variations of it |
| 23:33.13 | Bibendus | u don't notice it |
| 23:33.15 | Skittles | yeah its smexy |
| 23:33.16 | Skittles | gg |
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| 23:33.22 | Bibendus | at random angle |
| 23:33.24 | Bibendus | and rotation |
| 23:33.24 | Bibendus | ! |
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| 23:33.45 | Skittles | anywho |
| 23:33.52 | Bibendus | they look everytime different |
| 23:33.54 | Skittles | hurry up n finish so we can play the game |
| 23:33.55 | Bibendus | fucking awesooooomenessssssss |
| 23:34.05 | Bibendus | i won't finish it now |
| 23:34.06 | Bibendus | btw |
| 23:34.06 | Bibendus | xD |
| 23:34.13 | Bibendus | my imba brain needs sleep |
| 23:34.14 | Skittles | Xd |
| 23:34.21 | Skittles | lies |
| 23:34.31 | JManV | it's 6:25 pm here |
| 23:34.34 | Skittles | get to work slave boi |
| 23:34.41 | JManV | i just got up :) |
| 23:34.53 | Skittles | u already on chirstmas break? |
| 23:35.02 | JManV | vacation |
| 23:35.23 | nolliepoper | I had 2 finals today now my brain is fried |
| 23:35.27 | nolliepoper | but done for the semester |
| 23:35.50 | nolliepoper | 3 hr calc final GEE GEE |
| 23:35.58 | JManV | school is for people |
| 23:36.26 | Skittles | going to sleep |
| 23:36.27 | Skittles | gg |
| 23:36.37 | Bibendus | me 2 |
| 23:36.38 | Bibendus | bye :D |
| 23:36.42 | Vesuvius | which clc? |
| 23:36.44 | Vesuvius | calc |
| 23:36.57 | Vesuvius | first second or third semester? |
| 23:36.58 | Vesuvius | :P |
| 23:37.22 | Bibendus | skittles |
| 23:37.22 | Bibendus | btw |
| 23:37.23 | JManV | i only took up to calc 2... i can't even image how obscure calc 3 would be |
| 23:37.26 | Bibendus | i fucking pwned the trigger |
| 23:37.29 | Bibendus | it works at first try |
| 23:37.29 | Bibendus | lol |
| 23:37.34 | Vesuvius | calc 3 is multivariable |
| 23:37.39 | Vesuvius | very very important |
| 23:37.41 | Bibendus | almost at 100% working ;) |
| 23:37.42 | Vesuvius | and useful |
| 23:38.14 | Vesuvius | in physics and graphics anyway :P |
| 23:38.48 | nolliepoper | calc 1 with analytic geometry |
| 23:38.51 | Vesuvius | calc 2 is the hard one |
| 23:39.13 | Vesuvius | calc 1 was easy, but i dont think i took it with analytic geometry |
| 23:39.35 | nolliepoper | Next semester I will be taking calc 2 with analytic geometry and physics 1 with calc |
| 23:39.37 | Vesuvius | we had a lecture on that in a graphics class this semester |
| 23:39.39 | Vesuvius | crazy shit |
| 23:39.40 | JManV | yeah integrals are crazy |
| 23:39.48 | nolliepoper | at the same time damnit im fried |
| 23:39.52 | Vesuvius | didnt know you could do it with single variable calc |
| 23:40.05 | nolliepoper | Integrals are easy |
| 23:40.31 | nolliepoper | Spin them around the x or y axis baby |
| 23:40.39 | Vesuvius | haha |
| 23:40.47 | Vesuvius | you're in for some fun in calc 2 |
| 23:40.57 | nolliepoper | come at me bro |
| 23:41.17 | Vesuvius | most integrals arent done by integrating in 1 d and revolving about an axis |
| 23:41.24 | Vesuvius | and even the 1 d integrals |
| 23:41.29 | Vesuvius | get to be crazy shit |
| 23:41.53 | nolliepoper | well substract the smaller volume from the big one |
| 23:41.57 | nolliepoper | lol... |
| 23:42.42 | nolliepoper | did you see my video to help? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wte19Zw_hRQ |
| 23:42.42 | Vesuvius | some integrals just take several pages tow ork through nollie |
| 23:43.03 | Vesuvius | especially if you don't see the shortcut |
| 23:43.10 | Vesuvius | thoguht sometimes there is no shortcut |
| 23:43.30 | Vesuvius | and some of them |
| 23:43.40 | Vesuvius | dont have known analytic solutions even |
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| 23:44.32 | Vesuvius | like e^(-(x^2)) |
| 23:45.07 | Vesuvius | and then some of them are just way to complicated to even write down analytically, let alone compute |
| 23:45.45 | Vesuvius | and i'm droning on and on to myself at this point |
| 23:45.46 | Vesuvius | lol |
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| 23:46.23 | Miccrackens | I AM HERE |
| 23:46.31 | nolliepoper | well I don't know how to take the antiderivitive of e^(-x^2) yet so maybe when they teach me how I can help you. |
| 23:46.54 | Vesuvius | haha nollie |
| 23:46.57 | nolliepoper | I only know what rules we have been tought at the moment |
| 23:47.05 | Vesuvius | if I'm remembering correctly |
| 23:47.13 | Vesuvius | no one knows how to take that antiderivitive |
| 23:47.17 | Vesuvius | that's what I'm saying :P |
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| 23:47.33 | nolliepoper | Like the fundamental theorem of calculus |
| 23:47.35 | Vesuvius | it gets a lot more complicated than they show you in the first semester |
| 23:47.48 | Vesuvius | a good chunk of the second semester is on integrals |
| 23:48.11 | nolliepoper | I can do the derivative of e^(-x^2) if you want |
| 23:48.16 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 23:48.16 | Vesuvius | haha |
| 23:48.30 | nolliepoper | we had a crazy question today |
| 23:48.34 | Dustin| | That hardcore math shit is like programming |
| 23:48.43 | nolliepoper | no programming is all logic |
| 23:48.47 | Vesuvius | on my calc 1 final |
| 23:48.50 | Vesuvius | this is just horrible |
| 23:48.53 | Dustin| | So is Math |
| 23:48.55 | nolliepoper | and really don't do much math |
| 23:49.01 | LunarDoom | lol |
| 23:49.02 | Vesuvius | they gave me a a half circle |
| 23:49.08 | Vesuvius | and asked for the area under it |
| 23:49.12 | nolliepoper | most programming doesn't go crazy on values and areas |
| 23:49.15 | Vesuvius | and I tried to do the integral |
| 23:49.19 | Vesuvius | for like half an hour |
| 23:49.25 | Vesuvius | before realizing it was just a half circle |
| 23:49.25 | nolliepoper | when and doubt bro |
| 23:49.25 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 23:49.26 | Dustin| | Depends what you're programming for |
| 23:49.32 | nolliepoper | use the Riemann sum |
| 23:49.41 | Vesuvius | that takes a while |
| 23:49.52 | Vesuvius | circles are easy integrals |
| 23:49.58 | Vesuvius | but you need calc 2 to do them |
| 23:50.02 | nolliepoper | always works when the fundamental theorem of calculus doesn't work on it. |
| 23:50.21 | nolliepoper | I made a Java program to do the Riemanna sum so it really doesn't take a while. |
| 23:50.33 | Vesuvius | actually riemann sums tend to give bad looking results if you estimate rendering integrals with them :P |
| 23:51.04 | LunarDoom | hey guys |
| 23:51.06 | LunarDoom | lol |
| 23:51.57 | Vesuvius | that's not even 100 lines of code lol |
| 23:51.57 | nolliepoper | http://i54.tinypic.com/xfx9xg.png |
| 23:52.19 | nolliepoper | Riemann sum with 4 rectangles and heres 8 http://i53.tinypic.com/ip8chu.png |
| 23:52.53 | Vesuvius | people don't use that in practice |
| 23:52.58 | Vesuvius | there are better estimators for 1d |
| 23:53.06 | Vesuvius | and you can use monte carlo in higher dimensions |
| 23:53.25 | Vesuvius | they should cover the 1d ones in calc 2 |
| 23:53.33 | Vesuvius | simpson's rule and the trapezoid rule as I recall |
| 23:53.49 | LunarDoom | you guys are pro with scripting |
| 23:53.53 | LunarDoom | i can tell |
| 23:53.56 | LunarDoom | lol |
| 23:54.00 | Vesuvius | scripting what? |
| 23:54.08 | LunarDoom | IM A Modeler |
| 23:54.09 | LunarDoom | zD |
| 23:54.10 | LunarDoom | xD |
| 23:54.12 | Vesuvius | oh |
| 23:54.12 | Vesuvius | ok |
| 23:54.13 | JManV | shit |
| 23:54.18 | Vesuvius | you're pro at modeling |
| 23:54.21 | Vesuvius | I can tell |
| 23:54.27 | LunarDoom | not really |
| 23:54.33 | LunarDoom | i need more training |
| 23:54.44 | Vesuvius | modelers always say that |
| 23:54.52 | LunarDoom | xD' |
| 23:54.54 | nolliepoper | but in calc1 they don't teach you how to take the antiderivative of (x^3+1)^(1/2) so I use the Riemann Sum program |
| 23:54.58 | Vesuvius | but they aren't comparing their models to the shitty stuff i could produce |
| 23:55.07 | Vesuvius | umm nollie |
| 23:55.08 | Vesuvius | they do |
| 23:55.12 | Vesuvius | or they should have |
| 23:55.15 | Vesuvius | that's just a chain rule |
| 23:55.21 | Vesuvius | oh antiderivitve |
| 23:55.22 | Vesuvius | sorry |
| 23:55.25 | Vesuvius | reading comprehension fail |
| 23:55.30 | nolliepoper | u substitution won't work cuz x^3 inner |
| 23:55.40 | nolliepoper | np |
| 23:55.45 | Vesuvius | that's the kind of thing they throw at you in calc 2 |
| 23:56.00 | nolliepoper | can't wiat |
| 23:56.03 | Vesuvius | haha |
| 23:56.12 | LunarDoom | hey guys does any1 here can convert a .mdx to a .m3 |
| 23:56.13 | LunarDoom | ? |
| 23:56.20 | Vesuvius | did you like trig? |
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| 23:56.35 | nolliepoper | it's ok I got my trig functions memorized |
| 23:56.43 | Vesuvius | which ones |
| 23:56.46 | Vesuvius | all of them? |
| 23:56.47 | nolliepoper | so whenever they toss one my way I will be able to handle it. |
| 23:56.54 | LunarDoom | i have 3dsmax but i cant figure out the whole shader part of exporting |
| 23:56.56 | Vesuvius | and the various identities? |
| 23:57.00 | nolliepoper | the derivatives of 6 |
| 23:57.17 | Vesuvius | you should be fine then i guess |
| 23:57.20 | LunarDoom | or adding the textures to the mesh |
| 23:57.21 | nolliepoper | sin^2+cos^2=1 |
| 23:57.24 | Vesuvius | if you're willing to memorize their derivitives |
| 23:57.39 | ALF__ | does anyone know the name of the marine portrait with the cross-hair visor? |
| 23:58.02 | Vesuvius | derivative has way too many spellings that look right |
| 23:58.05 | Vesuvius | :/ |
| 23:58.50 | nolliepoper | That doom said a funny quote if I remember correctly "My first time in the trigger editor I saw the custom scripts area and was about it close it right then" |
| 23:59.16 | LunarDoom | lol |
| 23:59.19 | Vesuvius | i dont know anything about the custom scripts in the trigger editor |
| 23:59.21 | LunarDoom | yess i did |
| 23:59.32 | LunarDoom | i was like wtf |
| 23:59.41 | Vesuvius | i don't think you need them much |
| 23:59.46 | nolliepoper | Yeah I really don't know any of the custom script syntax atm |
| 23:59.53 | Vesuvius | and at any rate you'd have to google for the syntax |
