| 00:00.25 | Bounty | im better off making a website lol |
| 00:00.39 | moshewe | hi all |
| 00:00.48 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:00.50 | onetwo | i like that list rod |
| 00:00.57 | RodOfNOD | is it clear? |
| 00:00.59 | moshewe | does anyone here write Galaxy code in emacs? |
| 00:01.05 | Bounty | Is it expensive to make a website? |
| 00:01.06 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:01.09 | onetwo | to rod |
| 00:01.13 | RodOfNOD | cool |
| 00:01.13 | onetwo | bounty: im not a web guy |
| 00:01.19 | RodOfNOD | just go to godaddy |
| 00:01.20 | onetwo | depends on the quality you want |
| 00:01.26 | RodOfNOD | simple if u dont know what ur doing |
| 00:01.26 | onetwo | if you want nike.com you can pay 50-100 grand |
| 00:01.32 | RodOfNOD | lol or more |
| 00:01.34 | onetwo | if you want freewebs grandma website |
| 00:01.40 | onetwo | its 20$ |
| 00:01.41 | onetwo | haha |
| 00:01.50 | Bounty | well for revenue purposes i would have to get a .com |
| 00:01.55 | onetwo | .com is pretty cheap |
| 00:01.59 | Bounty | free websites get almost no views lol |
| 00:02.00 | onetwo | and monthly isnt that bad |
| 00:02.05 | onetwo | its making the website and if your website explodes |
| 00:02.06 | Bounty | yeah i read somewhere 20 bucks for a year |
| 00:02.07 | nevjmac | I have a .com costs me 15 for a year |
| 00:02.08 | onetwo | you have to deal with bandwidth |
| 00:02.09 | RodOfNOD | .com is the most expensive |
| 00:02.10 | onetwo | and pay more monthly |
| 00:02.19 | Bounty | yeah but it was only 20 bucks a month |
| 00:02.20 | RodOfNOD | .com costs melik 7 |
| 00:02.21 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 00:02.22 | Bounty | err |
| 00:02.24 | Bounty | 20 bucks a year* |
| 00:02.50 | Bounty | i dont know how to make a website at all but im sure it cant be to hard lol |
| 00:02.55 | moshewe | anybody here writing Galaxy code manually? that is, not via the trigger editor? |
| 00:03.31 | RodOfNOD | and here is the terran one onetwo - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/tosstl.JPG |
| 00:03.32 | RodOfNOD | grr |
| 00:03.47 | onetwo | nice |
| 00:03.53 | RodOfNOD | mislabeled lol |
| 00:03.54 | onetwo | well Bounty |
| 00:03.55 | onetwo | its funny |
| 00:04.09 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/terrtl.JPG - |
| 00:04.10 | onetwo | i know how to program etcc |
| 00:04.15 | onetwo | but i just suck at websites |
| 00:04.19 | onetwo | php etc |
| 00:04.21 | Bounty | yeah but are you talking about |
| 00:04.22 | onetwo | i just dont want to learn it |
| 00:04.24 | Bounty | the design aspect? |
| 00:04.27 | Bounty | or the code |
| 00:04.28 | onetwo | na i can do that |
| 00:04.29 | onetwo | code |
| 00:04.31 | onetwo | i dont know why |
| 00:04.39 | Bounty | i know alot of stoner morons who know how to do it lol |
| 00:04.41 | onetwo | i can draw up shit in photoshop |
| 00:04.42 | onetwo | but i dont know |
| 00:04.45 | Bounty | thats what im basing it all on |
| 00:04.48 | onetwo | i have like a mental block with web stuff |
| 00:04.48 | RodOfNOD | tossone - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/tosstl.JPG |
| 00:04.49 | onetwo | haha |
| 00:04.51 | Bounty | if they can do it, i can |
| 00:04.58 | onetwo | the thing about websites |
| 00:05.00 | onetwo | is maintenance |
| 00:05.04 | onetwo | gotta make sure its running all the time |
| 00:05.06 | onetwo | etc |
| 00:05.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 00:05.11 | onetwo | for a simple personal one, not a big deal |
| 00:05.14 | onetwo | running sc2.com = big deal |
| 00:05.18 | onetwo | and if you want good ad money |
| 00:05.21 | Bounty | well how does it work? you make the website via program |
| 00:05.25 | Bounty | and upload it to your .com |
| 00:05.26 | Bounty | ? |
| 00:05.28 | onetwo | yeah you make an html file |
| 00:05.31 | onetwo | and it can do w/e you want |
| 00:05.39 | onetwo | thats up to dreamweaver |
| 00:05.40 | onetwo | or w/e program |
| 00:05.42 | onetwo | you use |
| 00:05.44 | onetwo | or if you use notepad |
| 00:05.44 | RodOfNOD | hi progammer |
| 00:05.47 | onetwo | but facepalm on that one |
| 00:05.53 | Bounty | lol notepad |
| 00:05.54 | onetwo | THEN you upload it to the backend |
| 00:05.56 | onetwo | like godaddy.com |
| 00:06.11 | onetwo | i did grade 11 html class |
| 00:06.12 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:06.14 | onetwo | notepad |
| 00:06.15 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:06.16 | onetwo | <html> |
| 00:06.17 | onetwo | ugh |
| 00:06.26 | onetwo | ive been scarred ever since |
| 00:06.27 | Bounty | its funny |
| 00:06.32 | onetwo | you can even use flash too |
| 00:06.37 | onetwo | just embed flash into an html page |
| 00:06.39 | Bounty | because i looked a few C++ programs/videos |
| 00:06.39 | onetwo | and you hav a flash website |
| 00:06.47 | Bounty | and it looks exactly like the galaxy editor |
| 00:06.48 | progammer | coding html in notepad is pro skill |
| 00:06.50 | Bounty | in terms of words |
| 00:06.50 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:06.52 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:06.53 | Bounty | but the only differance is |
| 00:06.56 | Bounty | you have to type it all out |
| 00:07.04 | onetwo | i learned war3 triggers and then took my comp sci degree... gave me a huge leg up |
| 00:07.05 | progammer | RodOfNOD: hi |
| 00:07.35 | Bounty | I think they should use programs like the editor as a way of teaching |
| 00:07.38 | Bounty | like for the VERY basics |
| 00:07.41 | Bounty | to ease you in |
| 00:07.54 | Bounty | its much less scary |
| 00:07.55 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:07.57 | onetwo | so true |
| 00:08.00 | RodOfNOD | kinda' |
| 00:08.06 | onetwo | i honestly think once C++ dies like C did |
| 00:08.10 | onetwo | the next level of language will be more GUI based |
| 00:08.10 | RodOfNOD | the thing is if u try to do to much u get pwned by blizzard |
| 00:08.12 | onetwo | like editor |
| 00:08.18 | Catalisk | that would be too slow |
| 00:08.26 | Bounty | i just couldnt believei t |
| 00:08.29 | Bounty | because i looked at this programs |
| 00:08.32 | Bounty | and was like wtf? |
| 00:08.34 | Catalisk | if I knew the API I was calling, I wouldn't use the GUI |
| 00:08.36 | Bounty | its the same thing! lol |
| 00:08.37 | Catalisk | I'd just type it |
| 00:08.41 | onetwo | thats the brilliance |
| 00:08.46 | RodOfNOD | gui will never be a real language |
| 00:08.51 | onetwo | spend half an hour looking through shitty documentation OR just drag and drop GUI triggers |
| 00:08.53 | RodOfNOD | because it has so many limits |
| 00:08.53 | Dekar- | moshewe i write andromeda code in notpad++ |
| 00:09.06 | Catalisk | the roblem is the triggers are also underdocumented |
| 00:09.09 | progammer | so who has watched this scott pilgrim movie ? |
| 00:09.12 | onetwo | that is true |
| 00:09.13 | Kueken | calling gui a language is almost like heresy xD |
| 00:09.15 | onetwo | but you can see everything you want |
| 00:09.16 | onetwo | in one list |
| 00:09.18 | Bounty | Blizzard could make a fortune if they release a global editor |
| 00:09.20 | RodOfNOD | agreed Kueken |
| 00:09.22 | Bounty | Now when i say that i mean |
| 00:09.23 | progammer | its so ridiculous its gets funny |
| 00:09.25 | onetwo | hey lets not get all high and mighty |
| 00:09.26 | Bounty | Like an entire program |
| 00:09.26 | RodOfNOD | gui is very limiting |
| 00:09.28 | onetwo | with coding vs gui |
| 00:09.28 | Bounty | that can make any game |
| 00:09.28 | Kueken | well, so is calling galaxy a language -.- |
| 00:09.30 | RodOfNOD | but for starting its fine |
| 00:09.34 | Catalisk | it's not that hard to document things decently |
| 00:09.36 | Catalisk | I'd rather see that |
| 00:09.46 | Kueken | actually the sc2 gui is quite good |
| 00:09.48 | onetwo | they probably are working on something |
| 00:09.55 | Bounty | They should do it |
| 00:09.57 | RodOfNOD | btw - progammer- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/zergtl.JPG |
| 00:09.58 | Kueken | very few things gui is not capable of |
| 00:10.00 | Catalisk | actually I love header files in C++ because it puts everything you want out of a class in a nice little summary |
| 00:10.00 | Bounty | as much as i hate Blizz right now |
| 00:10.08 | Bounty | You cant deny they are very good at making these editing programs |
| 00:10.09 | onetwo | i dont really care for it |
| 00:10.12 | onetwo | means you have to look in two places |
| 00:10.14 | onetwo | to find things |
| 00:10.17 | Bounty | Unreal Engine for one company |
| 00:10.23 | Bounty | Video Game Editor for Blizzard |
| 00:10.24 | onetwo | depending on quality of who implemented the .h and .cpp |
| 00:10.42 | Bounty | like |
| 00:10.45 | Bounty | If Microsoft was smart |
| 00:10.52 | onetwo | data editor is very interesting in terms of objects |
| 00:10.55 | Bounty | they would have Blizzard make an editor like XNA |
| 00:11.02 | Bounty | but more friendly |
| 00:11.08 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:11.08 | RodOfNOD | blizzards editor isnt that good |
| 00:11.09 | Catalisk | i wish they'd make the data editor faster lol |
| 00:11.13 | RodOfNOD | its just what we haveto live with |
| 00:11.16 | onetwo | nobody wants to implement graphics and opengl... its fucking ugly |
| 00:11.21 | Bounty | I know its not that great Rod |
| 00:11.22 | onetwo | but everyone wants to make collision physics FPSes |
| 00:11.26 | Bounty | but the fact that i know nothing about programming |
| 00:11.32 | Bounty | and i looked at real C++ programs |
| 00:11.36 | Kueken | the editor is insanely powerful at a decent level of complexity |
| 00:11.37 | Bounty | and noticed things |
| 00:11.41 | onetwo | thats true Kueken |
| 00:11.41 | moshewe | that's what i was just about to say ^_^ |
| 00:11.41 | Bounty | its pretty cool to me lol |
| 00:11.45 | Kueken | its just badly layed out |
| 00:11.53 | onetwo | surporisingly its very close to war3 |
| 00:11.57 | Bounty | If you took the editor |
| 00:11.59 | Bounty | and said ok |
| 00:11.59 | onetwo | they didnt spend as much time thinking of how to change it |
| 00:12.02 | onetwo | just how to add more into it |
| 00:12.10 | Bounty | lets completely remove the SC2 elements |
| 00:12.15 | RodOfNOD | well the fact we have a search feature in the data |
| 00:12.16 | RodOfNOD | is HUGE |
| 00:12.28 | Bounty | and made it into a stricly vidoe game creation software |
| 00:12.28 | Catalisk | haha yeah |
| 00:12.33 | Catalisk | you'd never find chrono boost |
| 00:12.35 | Catalisk | without the search |
| 00:12.36 | Bounty | it would be a HUGE financial benefit |
| 00:12.39 | Kueken | the fact that we cannot use custom categories in data is a huge fail, though |
| 00:12.42 | Catalisk | it's in the terran abilities |
| 00:12.43 | Catalisk | lol |
| 00:12.48 | RodOfNOD | however where they fail are in terms of data manipulation ie i want to find all unkits that are structures |
| 00:12.50 | RodOfNOD | show me alist |
| 00:12.52 | onetwo | theres a lot of ways data editor is too friendly and not expandable enough |
| 00:12.55 | onetwo | cant like automate item creation |
| 00:13.03 | onetwo | etc... like i have to make a unit, actor, item, etc for ONE item |
| 00:13.06 | onetwo | and duplicate and rename etc |
| 00:13.08 | onetwo | huge waste of time |
| 00:13.12 | RodOfNOD | agreed |
| 00:13.16 | Kueken | they plan adding a unit wizard |
| 00:13.18 | Bounty | Yeah but im sure its easier then doing it in real code |
| 00:13.18 | onetwo | that can really be improved upon |
| 00:13.18 | RodOfNOD | unless u do it in xml :> |
| 00:13.20 | onetwo | yeah thatll be awesome |
| 00:13.21 | Kueken | maybe thats useful |
| 00:13.23 | Kueken | we will see |
| 00:13.31 | Catalisk | depends how the code is set up bounty |
| 00:13.31 | Kueken | well |
| 00:13.42 | Kueken | wc3 editor did not come over night as well |
| 00:13.50 | Bounty | Im just saying, look at it like this |
| 00:13.50 | onetwo | true |
| 00:13.52 | Kueken | the roc editor used to be awful |
| 00:13.56 | onetwo | items was one thing in war3 though |
| 00:13.59 | onetwo | in frozen throne |
| 00:14.03 | onetwo | in ROC there was no ability editor |
| 00:14.04 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 00:14.07 | Bounty | in my opinion the video game industry is going down the shitter because of studios not being innovative enough |
| 00:14.13 | Bounty | so you take Blizzards editor |
| 00:14.18 | Kueken | if the sc2 editor evolves as much in 2 years like the we did with frozen throne |
| 00:14.23 | Bounty | tweak it for a few years to make it its own video game developement program |
| 00:14.29 | Bounty | and make it so it works like XNA |
| 00:14.29 | Kueken | thatll be great news |
| 00:14.29 | onetwo | hope so Kueken :D |
| 00:14.35 | Catalisk | but you're stuck with their publishing framework |
| 00:14.39 | Catalisk | which is within SC2 |
| 00:14.39 | Bounty | You create games in the editor |
| 00:14.43 | Bounty | and sell your games on XBL |
| 00:14.45 | Bounty | or PSN |
| 00:14.48 | Catalisk | and subject to popularity :P |
| 00:14.48 | onetwo | bnet 2.0 |
| 00:14.58 | Catalisk | or are you talking about blizzard changing it into a full game dev kit? |
| 00:15.05 | onetwo | i wouldnt mind popularity at all if they added a war3 list as default |
| 00:15.06 | Bounty | Marketplace will fail in my opinion |
| 00:15.08 | onetwo | i want to play random maps |
| 00:15.12 | Bounty | One reason it will fail |
| 00:15.14 | Catalisk | marketplace will fail hard lol |
| 00:15.17 | Bounty | and its funny why |
| 00:15.18 | onetwo | i play custom maps to avoid repetitiveness of melee... but its just as repetitiveness |
| 00:15.21 | Bounty | ill tell u why right now |
| 00:15.26 | Bounty | its not that maps wont be good enough |
| 00:15.30 | Bounty | its because they are called "maps" |
| 00:15.31 | onetwo | cough |
| 00:15.31 | Kueken | marketplace will not fail -.- |
| 00:15.37 | Bounty | thats the reason why ppl wont buy them |
| 00:15.40 | Catalisk | locking doesn't work properly |
| 00:15.44 | onetwo | youd be surprised what people buy |
| 00:15.47 | Catalisk | people will steal |
| 00:15.48 | Kueken | enough dumb rich kids out there who will pay for anything |
| 00:16.01 | onetwo | you should thank people over 30 |
| 00:16.03 | onetwo | who cant pirate |
| 00:16.04 | Bounty | Yeah but people wont buy maps lol |
| 00:16.07 | Bounty | Ok i take that back |
| 00:16.08 | onetwo | for supoprting all the industries |
| 00:16.08 | Kueken | marketplace will fail in terms of improving making decent maps |
| 00:16.10 | onetwo | that we steal and pirate |
| 00:16.10 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:16.11 | Bounty | not ENOUGH people will buy maps |
| 00:16.21 | Kueken | but it will not fail economicly for blizzard |
| 00:16.30 | Bounty | Like i said |
| 00:16.34 | Bounty | If Blizzard is smart |
| 00:16.36 | onetwo | i want blizz to succeed. I want bnet to improve, and editor |
| 00:16.40 | onetwo | i think we all do |
| 00:16.44 | Bounty | They would develope their own XNA type program |
| 00:16.53 | Dekar- | guys |
| 00:16.56 | Bounty | You would shit loads of content |
| 00:16.57 | Dekar- | dont talk that much |
| 00:17.01 | Dekar- | takes too long to read |
| 00:17.02 | Dekar- | :P |
| 00:17.04 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:17.07 | Kueken | we like talking |
| 00:17.09 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:17.11 | onetwo | you can tell were more passionate htan italians about enzo |
| 00:17.15 | Kueken | we are attention whores after all |
| 00:17.15 | Bounty | i especially like talking on this subject |
| 00:17.25 | onetwo | enzo ferrari* |
| 00:17.37 | Bounty | Because i think this editor does one major thing right |
| 00:17.40 | RodOfNOD | are u telling me u wont pay $1 for a good map? |
| 00:17.46 | onetwo | i will |
| 00:17.46 | Dekar- | maybe blizzard will make maps into standalone programms |
| 00:17.50 | Dekar- | then everyone is happy |
| 00:17.52 | Bounty | It shows that a program could be made, that could turn anyone into a true game developer |
| 00:17.53 | onetwo | just like ive paid for apps that are GARBAGE on iphone |
| 00:17.56 | Kueken | this editor does many major things right |
| 00:18.05 | Bounty | Yeah but the major thing it does right |
| 00:18.06 | Kueken | but many major things wrong at the same time |
| 00:18.07 | Bounty | and shows |
| 00:18.10 | Bounty | is what i said above |
| 00:18.14 | Bounty | The problem is |
| 00:18.17 | Bounty | Will anyone see this |
| 00:18.20 | Bounty | and use it |
| 00:18.28 | Bounty | Forget Starcraft 2 |
| 00:18.32 | Bounty | Dont link it to any game |
| 00:18.36 | Bounty | Make it its own program |
| 00:18.36 | onetwo | tthe editor takes out the stupid part about getting a comp sci degree, learning how to program graphics, hiring 20 art team people, etc... |
| 00:18.38 | onetwo | and just makes it game design |
| 00:18.42 | progammer | zhydaris speak french lolol http://eu.battle.net/sc2/it/forum/topic/927076162?page=2#31 |
| 00:18.48 | Bounty | exactly onetwo |
| 00:18.51 | progammer | it seems they talk about patch 1.2 there |
| 00:19.08 | Bounty | The funny thing is |
| 00:19.10 | Bounty | onetwo |
| 00:19.20 | Bounty | If Blizzard make a program that could turn anyone into a true game developer |
| 00:19.21 | onetwo | translate |
| 00:19.24 | Bounty | It would boost the economy lol |
| 00:19.26 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:19.27 | RodOfNOD | italian |
| 00:19.31 | onetwo | but blizz is a bit slwo honestly |
| 00:19.32 | Catalisk | the stupid part in that sentence is hiring the damn art team :( |
| 00:19.33 | onetwo | slow |
| 00:19.33 | Bounty | You would have less people unemployed |
| 00:19.36 | onetwo | in terms of monetization |
| 00:19.38 | onetwo | and expansion |
| 00:19.38 | progammer | sorry italian :| |
| 00:19.42 | onetwo | WoW gave them some power now |
| 00:19.52 | Bounty | We need to send a letter to Obama |
| 00:19.53 | Catalisk | though |
| 00:19.55 | Bounty | and in it |
| 00:19.56 | Catalisk | opengl does suck |
| 00:19.57 | Catalisk | :/ |
| 00:20.00 | Bounty | Tell him to legalize pot |
| 00:20.03 | Bounty | and |
| 00:20.12 | onetwo | haha italian |
| 00:20.19 | Bounty | Make Blizzard create a video game software creation tool |
| 00:20.20 | onetwo | i have a mapper from italy who messages me |
| 00:20.23 | Bounty | Those two things combined |
| 00:20.24 | onetwo | with questions about my vids a lot |
| 00:20.28 | Bounty | Would take us out of recession |
| 00:20.29 | onetwo | italians are fucking good at everything |
| 00:20.31 | onetwo | he gets shit so fast |
| 00:20.34 | RodOfNOD | FINALLY CHAT will be here |
| 00:20.40 | Bounty | HAI GUYS |
| 00:20.44 | Bounty | read mah shit |
| 00:20.47 | Bounty | im solving world issues here |
| 00:20.53 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:20.54 | Bounty | andu guys are talking about fucking italians |
| 00:20.59 | Bounty | im italian |
| 00:21.00 | onetwo | dont fuck with the family |
| 00:21.02 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:21.03 | Bounty | and i am NOT good at everything |
| 00:21.05 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:21.06 | Catalisk | when italians were romans |
| 00:21.07 | Kueken | so |
| 00:21.08 | onetwo | italian in italy |
| 00:21.10 | Catalisk | they were good at everything |
| 00:21.10 | Kueken | you are lying |
| 00:21.13 | RodOfNOD | they make good pizza |
| 00:21.15 | Kueken | you are not italian |
| 00:21.20 | Kueken | logical conclusion |
| 00:21.22 | RodOfNOD | and good mafia characters |
| 00:21.22 | Bounty | the only pizza i can make is Ellios |
| 00:21.31 | onetwo | italian cars: lambo, ferrari, bugatti (german now, but original was italian) |
| 00:21.37 | onetwo | NA cars: i wont even name them |
| 00:21.39 | RodOfNOD | and hell without italians we have no mario bros so.... |
| 00:21.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dryeyece (4252090f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.82.9.15) |
| 00:21.46 | Kueken | well |
| 00:21.48 | onetwo | they take pride |
| 00:21.49 | Rodrigo | is Italian. |
| 00:21.49 | Bounty | man |
| 00:21.50 | onetwo | they make it good |
| 00:21.54 | Kueken | an italian gets shit fast |
| 00:21.54 | Bounty | we had a good conversation going |
| 00:21.58 | Bounty | now its destroyed |
| 00:21.59 | Kueken | pick a korean |
| 00:22.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:22.01 | Catalisk | with a name like rodrigo, we never would have guessed |
| 00:22.02 | RodOfNOD | mustang camaro corvette |
| 00:22.02 | onetwo | go away bounty its now about italians |
| 00:22.03 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:22.07 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:22.08 | Kueken | he will learn 25 hours a day |
| 00:22.13 | Kueken | and figure out the same |
| 00:22.15 | Catalisk | so |
| 00:22.17 | Catalisk | speaking of italians |
| 00:22.30 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:22.34 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo is italian only in paper and passports, because Rodrigo does not speak a word of italian. |
| 00:22.41 | onetwo | you sob |
| 00:22.45 | progammer | does italy the thing that look like a shoe or i'm wrong |
| 00:22.47 | Catalisk | does anyone know how to make an italian come to a complete stop before casting an ability when the ability is queued after a move order? |
| 00:22.52 | RodOfNOD | lol progammer |
| 00:22.54 | onetwo | wtf? |
| 00:22.54 | Catalisk | :P |
| 00:22.56 | RodOfNOD | the boot yes |
| 00:23.00 | Bounty | I remember someone found out i was italian and asked me some shit like "Can you tell your age by the weight of your golden chain?" |
| 00:23.07 | Kueken | italian was a subway baguette, not? |
| 00:23.09 | Bounty | i was like wtf |
| 00:23.09 | onetwo | "does anyone know how to make an italian come to a complete stop" wtf? |
| 00:23.12 | onetwo | why would we want to do that |
| 00:23.30 | Catalisk | lol |
| 00:23.41 | Kueken | casting a mothership timebomb should suffice, though |
| 00:23.48 | Catalisk | i just want my phoenix to stop before it casts an ability :P, I figured I'd try to work it into the conversation |
| 00:23.54 | progammer | ok i cant format italic in irc |
| 00:23.56 | Catalisk | the only workaround i know is to set deceleration way high :P |
| 00:24.03 | Catalisk | which doesnt look nice |
| 00:24.23 | Bounty | So apparently i use 57% of my brains right hemisphere |
| 00:24.27 | onetwo | 1.2: The patch, if everything goes as planned, will the chat functionality, some minor balance adjustments and a new feature that we have not announced yet and I hope you will please, as was requested also on the Italian forums. |
| 00:24.31 | Catalisk | though actually yamato has the same issue |
| 00:24.33 | onetwo | from italian |
| 00:24.41 | onetwo | Currently, support for clan is still under development and we have no details, except to assure you that we are fully aware of its importance and that, like the chat, we prefer to wait for a feature we can bring you up to expectations. |
| 00:24.43 | Kueken | google translate? ;) |
| 00:24.43 | Catalisk | chat channels :) |
| 00:24.50 | onetwo | I close by telling you that, from what I have seen so far and judging by your requests here and in other threads, the chat system will be something that I hope does not disappoint. |
| 00:24.52 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:25.02 | Catalisk | chat channels will alleviate popularity somewhat |
| 00:25.06 | Catalisk | i hope |
| 00:25.06 | Bounty | If they fuck up the chat system im done |
| 00:25.15 | Bounty | like seriously |
| 00:25.24 | Catalisk | since you can go into a channel and try to pull people into your game/map |
| 00:25.28 | Bounty | It would take some serious ignorance to fuck up a chat system |
| 00:25.30 | Kueken | chat is actually a minor thing compared to popularity |
| 00:25.36 | onetwo | yeah would be nice to be able to go on bnet and find 6 bums to test with... hard finding enough people to PROPERLY test my map |
| 00:25.39 | onetwo | even me as a connected person |
| 00:25.44 | Catalisk | yeah but maybe we can use it to combat the popularity system |
| 00:25.45 | onetwo | this whole "find your friends to test" is bs |
| 00:25.49 | Bounty | Its pretty easy to find people to test your map |
| 00:26.06 | onetwo | i test around 1am |
| 00:26.06 | Catalisk | i have like 10 people in my friends list |
| 00:26.06 | onetwo | not so easy |
| 00:26.06 | Bounty | go into nexus wars lobbies |
| 00:26.06 | onetwo | i hate begging |
| 00:26.06 | Rodrigo | The new feature is the popularity system filtered by rating, which will fuck up popularity system even more because Nexus Wars will get all the kids thumbs up and stay stucked on the top while all new maps won't be seen and won't be able to be boosted anymore. |
| 00:26.06 | Bounty | and spam |
| 00:26.06 | onetwo | LOL |
| 00:26.06 | Bounty | then leave |
| 00:26.06 | Catalisk | it's really annoying to get people to test |
| 00:26.08 | Bounty | thats what i do |
| 00:26.15 | Bounty | when i was working on haunted temple |
| 00:26.18 | Catalisk | lol rating could work if they do it like netflix |
| 00:26.22 | Bounty | all i did was go into Parasite lobbies |
| 00:26.24 | Bounty | spam |
| 00:26.26 | Bounty | and leave |
| 00:26.28 | Catalisk | where they have an overall rating and a rating for you |
| 00:26.33 | Catalisk | based on what you've rated highly |
| 00:26.53 | onetwo | ill hire boosters in china |
| 00:26.57 | onetwo | to repeatedly rank me number 1 |
| 00:26.57 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:26.59 | onetwo | my map* |
| 00:27.05 | Catalisk | but i think that's a machine learning algorithm' |
| 00:27.13 | Catalisk | lol |
| 00:27.18 | Rodrigo | what about the 100,000 kids playing Starcraft and giving thumbs up to Nexus Wars? |
| 00:27.18 | Kueken | ye promise them a free marketplace map of yours ;) |
| 00:27.28 | onetwo | you know whats funny? nexus wars is falling because its only TUG |
| 00:27.35 | onetwo | people who come into custom maps viewer |
| 00:27.39 | onetwo | see the top maps above it now |
| 00:27.42 | onetwo | and its falling |
| 00:27.56 | onetwo | star battle magically at top too |
| 00:28.01 | Catalisk | well if you hate nexus wars and don't uprate tug maps, presumably the system would have your rating of it lower |
| 00:28.11 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:28.14 | Bounty | Star Battle is yet another example of whats wrong with the custom map scene |
| 00:28.23 | Bounty | Such innovation |
| 00:28.25 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:28.28 | Catalisk | did tehy ever make nexus wars not total crap btw? |
| 00:28.35 | onetwo | no idea havent played it in a long time |
| 00:28.37 | onetwo | like most maps |
| 00:28.38 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:28.39 | Kueken | why should they? |
| 00:28.41 | Bounty | Plus whoever made it had the easiest fucking job in the world |
| 00:28.46 | Bounty | NO terraining |
| 00:28.46 | Kueken | total crap works best it seems |
| 00:28.47 | Bounty | at all |
| 00:28.51 | Catalisk | lol |
| 00:28.54 | Catalisk | i hate terraining |
| 00:28.55 | Bounty | He had to do no terraining |
| 00:28.57 | Bounty | and people love it |
| 00:28.58 | onetwo | 1. people love to exploit broken maps |
| 00:28.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:29.04 | Catalisk | fucking art |
| 00:29.04 | onetwo | 2. people love to bash their head against a map repeatedly |
| 00:29.05 | Catalisk | :( |
| 00:29.11 | Catalisk | i tried to terrain my map |
| 00:29.12 | Kueken | I hate terrain and cannot terrain whatsoever |
| 00:29.12 | Rodrigo | There is a reason Blizzard haven't revealed the rating system on public yet. And I'm guessing that is because the system suck more than the actual one |
| 00:29.15 | Catalisk | I think it's totally ugly |
| 00:29.15 | Kueken | but yet |
| 00:29.22 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:29.23 | Vail|homeWork | i cant terrain for beans so meh |
| 00:29.24 | Kueken | I spent 20 minutes for a terrain |
| 00:29.40 | Bounty | I can terrain after i drink an energy shot |
| 00:29.42 | Catalisk | i spent hours trying to terrain my map |
| 00:29.45 | Kueken | and it looks like 10 billion times better than nexus wars ^^ |
| 00:29.48 | Catalisk | I suck at it though :( |
| 00:29.57 | RodOfNOD | 10 billion = big number |
| 00:29.59 | onetwo | i think terrain has a lot of value |
| 00:30.05 | onetwo | more than most maps put in |
| 00:30.12 | Kueken | 0* 10 billion = still 0 :D |
| 00:30.14 | Bounty | you know what pisses me off |
| 00:30.15 | RodOfNOD | terraining is part art part science u can however learn both i believe |
| 00:30.20 | Rodrigo | I will make a map called "THUMBS UP" and I bet it will be the most popular map. |
| 00:30.20 | Bounty | why the fuck are there no hero arenas |
| 00:30.27 | Bounty | WHY MOTHER FUCKERS |
| 00:30.28 | Catalisk | haha rodrigo |
| 00:30.34 | Kueken | because heroes are hard to make actually |
| 00:30.45 | Bounty | if i can make a hero |
| 00:30.46 | Catalisk | only if they implement a thumbs up system |
| 00:30.47 | Bounty | anyone can |
| 00:30.55 | Rodrigo | they will |
| 00:30.58 | Rodrigo | patch 1,2 |
| 00:31.09 | onetwo | itll be awesome to have blizz dota to use spells from |
| 00:31.12 | Kueken | sure but why bother when you can make a tug with standard melee balance in 5 minutes? ;) |
| 00:31.12 | onetwo | instead of having to make from scratch |
| 00:31.15 | onetwo | new art too |
| 00:31.23 | Bounty | Blizzard can suck my cock with their maps |
| 00:31.28 | Kueken | hey |
| 00:31.30 | Kueken | new models |
| 00:31.31 | Catalisk | i dont know why people like tug at all |
| 00:31.35 | onetwo | i agree |
| 00:31.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~Christoph@uawifi-nat-210-16.arizona.edu) |
| 00:31.36 | Bounty | So let me get this straight, you give us this editor and want us to make content |
| 00:31.37 | Kueken | nothing wrong about that |
| 00:31.37 | Catalisk | it's so boring... |
| 00:31.40 | Catalisk | it's worse than TD |
| 00:31.42 | onetwo | i didnt play TUG in war3, and i dont play it here |
| 00:31.45 | onetwo | i loved war3 maps |
| 00:31.46 | Bounty | But you're going to make maps to? |
| 00:31.46 | onetwo | tags |
| 00:31.47 | Bounty | wtf |
| 00:31.48 | onetwo | tds |
| 00:31.50 | onetwo | hero maps |
| 00:31.52 | onetwo | rpgs |
| 00:32.03 | Bounty | Everytime i released a map |
| 00:32.05 | Kueken | is a hero line wars a tug? |
| 00:32.08 | Bounty | I would turn and look at the wife and say |
| 00:32.09 | onetwo | not realy |
| 00:32.13 | Bounty | "Baby, this is going to be the one" |
| 00:32.14 | onetwo | that would actually be interesting |
| 00:32.19 | Catalisk | TD at least you have to think about where you put things |
| 00:32.20 | Bounty | "Its going to be huge!" |
| 00:32.22 | onetwo | i wish line tower wars was properly on list too |
| 00:32.22 | Bounty | Then i release it |
| 00:32.25 | Bounty | and nobody plays it lol |
| 00:32.26 | onetwo | theres lots of halfass remakes |
| 00:32.32 | onetwo | LOL |
| 00:32.32 | onetwo | what wife |
| 00:32.38 | Kueken | I try hlw remake right now ^^ |
| 00:32.41 | Bounty | the one sitting next to mel ol |
| 00:32.47 | onetwo | the inflatable doll? |
| 00:32.49 | onetwo | !! |
| 00:32.50 | Kueken | maybe it will be half-ass, too |
| 00:32.55 | Bounty | funny you say that |
| 00:32.59 | Kueken | who know |
| 00:33.00 | Kueken | s |
| 00:33.01 | Bounty | because she looks like one since shes pregnant |
| 00:33.06 | onetwo | ohh shiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 00:33.09 | onetwo | bounty laying the smackdown |
| 00:33.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:33.14 | onetwo | of words |
| 00:33.19 | Catalisk | nah |
| 00:33.25 | onetwo | [16:33] <Bounty> because she looks like one since shes pregnant --> faxed it to your wife |
| 00:33.28 | Catalisk | I'm guessing he's the one who got smacked for that |
| 00:33.29 | onetwo | iwth your signature |
| 00:33.35 | Bounty | i say it to her everyday |
| 00:33.38 | Bounty | holy shit ur huge! |
| 00:33.41 | Catalisk | if she is indeed sitting next to him |
| 00:33.43 | Bounty | she says "yep" |
| 00:33.44 | onetwo | now make love to me baby |
| 00:33.56 | Catalisk | oh she's been desensitized |
| 00:33.56 | Bounty | nah shes due in like a month |
| 00:33.58 | Bounty | shit is to wierd |
| 00:34.02 | Bounty | baby is always moving lol |
| 00:34.20 | onetwo | just like you morally desensitized this channel? |
| 00:34.23 | Bounty | i cant even touch her when we are going to bedb ecause the baby fucking wakes me up |
| 00:34.31 | Bounty | wont stop fucking moving |
| 00:34.32 | Rodrigo | knows that Bounty will be the 1st to give thumbs down to Debates. |
| 00:34.44 | Bounty | nah |
| 00:34.45 | onetwo | whos with me: the sc2mapster conspiracy |
| 00:34.46 | Bounty | ill be neutral |
| 00:34.49 | onetwo | we all 5 star sc2mapster maps |
| 00:34.49 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:34.54 | Catalisk | lol |
| 00:35.01 | Rodrigo | thumbs up for this idea |
| 00:35.05 | Catalisk | are they actually going to implement a rating system? |
| 00:35.10 | Rodrigo | yes |
| 00:35.12 | Vail|homeWork | hmm i wanted to do something simple for the WDE but eh .. |
| 00:35.16 | progammer | i dont think a lot of player even know about mapster though |
| 00:35.17 | progammer | unlike in beta |
| 00:35.21 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:35.23 | onetwo | weved faded a bit |
| 00:35.24 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:35.26 | Bounty | i remember beta |
| 00:35.27 | onetwo | but once our projects get out there |
| 00:35.30 | Catalisk | i hope they don't do it half assed |
| 00:35.33 | onetwo | itll be like 90% mapster maps |
| 00:35.34 | onetwo | i think |
| 00:35.37 | Catalisk | though they probably will |
| 00:35.40 | onetwo | mapster people put too much work |
| 00:35.45 | onetwo | and thus long release cycles |
| 00:35.46 | Bounty | Back in Beta i would run into more people talking about mapster then sc2 |
| 00:35.52 | Rodrigo | I hope they dont filter JUST BY THUMBS UP. Otherwise, forget about new maps forever |
| 00:35.57 | progammer | news up http://www.sc2mapster.com/ |
| 00:35.58 | Catalisk | haha |
| 00:36.04 | Catalisk | it would be the same as it is now |
| 00:36.12 | Rodrigo | it will be worse |
| 00:36.14 | Bounty | uh |
| 00:36.14 | Kueken | btw |
| 00:36.16 | Rodrigo | because now we can boost |
| 00:36.17 | progammer | on the other hand this movie is so ridiculous it gets funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NUBVcit5VM |
| 00:36.23 | Bounty | Wasnt corruption already news'd? |
| 00:36.23 | Rodrigo | with thumbs up and down, you cannot boost |
| 00:36.28 | Bounty | I could have sworn i saw it already |
| 00:36.34 | Kueken | was WDE in news a one time thing or will they be in news every week? o_0 |
| 00:36.34 | progammer | not with this trailer |
| 00:36.40 | progammer | it looks amazing |
| 00:36.41 | nicoli_s | oh god i hope they dont change the replay format with 1.2 |
| 00:36.44 | nicoli_s | illbe so upset |
| 00:37.00 | Bounty | There is only one thign wrong with all of the Corruption videos |
| 00:37.06 | Catalisk | dont they have a mechanism for backwards compatibility? |
| 00:37.09 | Bounty | i find myself looking at the spam of trigger errors more then the gameplay |
| 00:37.10 | Catalisk | or are you parsing replays? |
| 00:37.10 | progammer | Kueken: i can recap it every week |
| 00:37.23 | Kueken | no need to, though, was just curious |
| 00:37.28 | Catalisk | fix the trigger errors then |
| 00:37.50 | Kueken | how you think its best ;) |
| 00:37.57 | Rodrigo | Im trying to read the italian thing |
| 00:38.03 | Sixen | Patch 1.2 should be here within the next few days, if not tonight. |
| 00:38.05 | Rodrigo | they are saying that its not a definite decision |
| 00:38.16 | Bounty | Sixen |
| 00:38.19 | onetwo | nice Sixen |
| 00:38.23 | onetwo | cant wait for editor updates |
| 00:38.23 | Sixen | PTR forum just went up: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/1161017/ |
| 00:38.23 | Rodrigo | thanks Sixen. It means I have to boost Platform Defense and make it 2 players now. |
| 00:38.24 | Bounty | DONT YOU DARE MESS WITH ME LIKE THAT |
| 00:38.27 | Bounty | DONT YOU DARE |
| 00:38.31 | Sixen | No patch notes yet. |
| 00:38.39 | onetwo | whats PTR? |
| 00:38.43 | progammer | better before cata !! |
| 00:38.45 | Alrik | patch? I heard patch? |
| 00:38.45 | progammer | portugese |
| 00:38.45 | Kueken | progammer: what about turning the wdes to assets all together instead of asking people to do so? |
| 00:38.47 | Sixen | progammer, edit that into the news pl0x? I'd do it, but your name should be there ;) |
| 00:38.51 | Alrik | :) |
| 00:38.51 | Sixen | PTR == Public Test Region |
| 00:38.54 | Rodrigo | I know portuguese |
| 00:38.56 | Sixen | We get to test the next patch before it goes live. |
| 00:38.58 | onetwo | is that new? |
| 00:39.00 | onetwo | who does? |
| 00:39.01 | onetwo | everyone |
| 00:39.01 | Sixen | yup |
| 00:39.02 | onetwo | ? |
| 00:39.03 | Sixen | yup |
| 00:39.04 | Sixen | =] |
| 00:39.06 | onetwo | weird |
| 00:39.08 | onetwo | wacky |
| 00:39.09 | onetwo | wild |
| 00:39.09 | Sixen | cool* |
| 00:39.10 | progammer | Kueken: do they provide the map ? |
| 00:39.12 | onetwo | lets publish maps on there |
| 00:39.13 | progammer | Sixen: ok boss |
| 00:39.14 | onetwo | maybe we'll have a chance |
| 00:39.16 | onetwo | with no boosters there |
| 00:39.17 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:39.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:39.17 | Sixen | Can't publish maps on there yet |
| 00:39.21 | Sixen | They disabled it for now |
| 00:39.22 | Bounty | Go team! |
| 00:39.25 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:39.33 | onetwo | ill get michael j fox |
| 00:39.33 | Kueken | in the wde threat usually yes, from what I can tell |
| 00:39.34 | Sixen | buuut, the GE changes will be in the PTR afai |
| 00:39.35 | progammer | Sixen: public test region = ptr ? |
| 00:39.38 | Bounty | So its going live 2night? |
| 00:39.41 | Sixen | yes progammer |
| 00:39.43 | Sixen | possibly, bounty |
| 00:39.44 | Sixen | not sure |
| 00:39.47 | Kueken | dunno if it would make sense, thats for you to decide |
| 00:39.49 | Alrik | hm someone needs a middle-earth map 256² for risk or similar?^^ got one here |
| 00:39.50 | Kueken | just an idea |
| 00:40.03 | progammer | lol i thought portuguese or smt |
| 00:40.07 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:40.08 | onetwo | gtfo |
| 00:40.10 | onetwo | jk <3 |
| 00:40.21 | Bounty | Hey Sixen |
| 00:40.32 | Bounty | Does Blizzard pay you or anything |
| 00:40.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:40.33 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 00:40.38 | Sixen | Not with cash, :P |
| 00:40.43 | Kueken | vip available everyone wants a piece |
| 00:40.47 | Bounty | Ah |
| 00:40.58 | progammer | vip treatment is sure nice |
| 00:41.02 | Bounty | So they pay you with Trident Multi Layered Gum? |
| 00:41.16 | Kueken | or nuke noodles? |
| 00:41.48 | Sixen | yes bounty |
| 00:41.50 | Sixen | I love my layers |
| 00:41.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:42.02 | Bounty | so the commercials are true... |
| 00:42.04 | Sixen | lol |
| 00:42.30 | Bounty | You should get paid in cash though imo |
| 00:42.33 | progammer | i want some muta-wings |
| 00:42.40 | Bounty | You do a better job then Mods do |
| 00:43.03 | progammer | Bounty: because he does not get paid lol ? |
| 00:43.22 | Bounty | He said he gets paid in Trident multi layered gum |
| 00:43.30 | Bounty | But i think he should get paid cash by Blizzard lol |
| 00:43.35 | Bounty | and made into a Mod |
| 00:43.43 | doite | why cant i kill kerrigan |
| 00:43.47 | doite | i set her on my map |
| 00:43.49 | Bounty | because whoever is suppsoed to be the mod for the custom map section is garbage |
| 00:43.53 | doite | set hight of unit |
| 00:43.57 | doite | height |
| 00:44.12 | Bounty | check her behaviors doite |
| 00:44.13 | Rodrigo | is making Platform Defense 2 players and boosting it this night |
| 00:44.19 | Bounty | one of the kerrigan units cannot be killed |
| 00:44.28 | Vail|homeWork | nod |
| 00:44.34 | Bounty | because she has a behavior that is called... oddly enough "Don't DIe" |
| 00:44.35 | doite | wtf |
| 00:44.36 | doite | WHT |
| 00:44.43 | Bounty | so u just remove that behavior |
| 00:44.44 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:44.44 | progammer | Sixen: obviously get paid in mineral |
| 00:44.45 | Rodrigo | wants Platform Defense popular during the new patch, so that everyone will give thumbs up to the map (except bounty) |
| 00:44.51 | Sixen | :P |
| 00:44.57 | Rodrigo | lol programmer |
| 00:45.04 | Kueken | thumbs down possible? ;) |
| 00:45.22 | Rodrigo | if not, nexus wars will be on the top FOREVER |
| 00:45.31 | Vail|homeWork | hey Sixen did Curry inform you we found out what was wrong with my map and that i have a workaround |
| 00:45.32 | Bounty | Why dont you do the right thing Rod |
| 00:45.44 | Bounty | stop trying to save Debates and using Platform Defense to promote debates |
| 00:45.48 | Kueken | nice demo video of corruption RPG btw, the constant flow of trigger errors is quite amusing o_0 |
| 00:45.49 | wOlfLinG | Guh -.- Super meat buy is frustrating |
| 00:45.49 | Bounty | and work and promote Nexus Word Wars |
| 00:45.56 | Bounty | because that is your golden ticket imo |
| 00:45.59 | Rodrigo | Bounty, I don't promote banned maps. |
| 00:46.06 | Bounty | Its not banned anymore |
| 00:46.11 | Sixen | Nobody told me, Vail :P |
| 00:46.24 | Bounty | And its the map people want from you |
| 00:46.25 | progammer | D to the bate ... Debates |
| 00:46.32 | progammer | reminds me of Husky |
| 00:46.39 | Kueken | how come |
| 00:46.47 | Kueken | no similarity at all ;) |
| 00:46.50 | Rodrigo | I haven't promoted NWW yet because it's not my fault that the map got instantly unpopular |
| 00:46.57 | Vail|homeWork | ok, what was wrong was that the structure couldnt actually SEE zeratul or any cloaked unit ... i added detector behavior and poof it works |
| 00:47.00 | Catalisk | yes it is |
| 00:47.12 | Bounty | Well if you took half of the effort you put into spamming threads about Debates |
| 00:47.12 | Catalisk | nexus word wars sounds like nexus wars |
| 00:47.12 | wOlfLinG | Rodrigo is a master debater :D (Say that quickly xD) |
| 00:47.14 | Rodrigo | Nexus Word Wars is indeed the map people want from me |
| 00:47.15 | Catalisk | therefore it is your fault |
| 00:47.17 | Bounty | into promoting Nexus Word Wars |
| 00:47.24 | Bounty | then you would be good to go |
| 00:47.30 | Catalisk | a lot of people probably thought it was nexus wars |
| 00:47.45 | Rodrigo | For everything there's the right time |
| 00:47.45 | Catalisk | and decided they liked it anyways when they realized it was something else |
| 00:47.57 | Rodrigo | I haven't promoted Nexus Word Wars yet because I am waiting for the right time |
| 00:47.59 | doite | OK |
| 00:48.02 | doite | There we go |
| 00:48.05 | doite | I need someone to test with |
| 00:48.10 | doite | Or ill just publish it |
| 00:48.12 | onetwo | [16:47] <wOlfLinG> Rodrigo is a master debater[16:47] <wOlfLinG> Rodrigo is a master debater[16:47] <wOlfLinG> Rodrigo is a master debater[16:47] <wOlfLinG> Rodrigo is a master debater[16:47] <wOlfLinG> Rodrigo is a master debater[16:47] <wOlfLinG> Rodrigo is a master debater[16:47] <wOlfLinG> Rodrigo is a master debater[16:47] <wOlfLinG> Rodrigo is a master debater[16:47] <wOlfLinG> Rodrigo is a master debater |
| 00:48.25 | wOlfLinG | xD |
| 00:48.27 | Catalisk | that would be more impressive |
| 00:48.32 | Catalisk | if it weren't all the same time stamp |
| 00:48.38 | Rodrigo | does not want to take courses with +onetwo on university |
| 00:48.50 | Kueken | scared? |
| 00:48.53 | Rodrigo | yes |
| 00:48.59 | Alrik | Good night , I#m out |
| 00:48.59 | Kueken | reasonable |
| 00:49.01 | Catalisk | when i was in high school |
| 00:49.03 | onetwo | why rodrigo? |
| 00:49.06 | onetwo | we can [16:47] <wOlfLinG> Rodrigo is a master debater |
| 00:49.07 | Catalisk | the debate team had these great shirts |
| 00:49.10 | nevjmac | hmmm |
| 00:49.11 | progammer | onetwo: talk that faster and you get masturbater |
| 00:49.12 | Rodrigo | is scared. |
| 00:49.15 | Catalisk | "the finger is not an effective rebuttle" |
| 00:49.20 | nevjmac | is there a way to make buttons change with levelable abilities? |
| 00:49.27 | Kueken | yep |
| 00:49.32 | Catalisk | master debater was one of the other possibilities but they decided against it |
| 00:49.32 | Kueken | look at the ability |
| 00:49.42 | Bounty | I wish i could get a job just coming up with Ideas lol |
| 00:49.46 | Kueken | command button lvlup or smth |
| 00:49.46 | onetwo | masterbator and commander... "COMMANDER! We need assitance, the spanish are firing on us!!".. "Uh... im busy... give me 5 mins" |
| 00:49.54 | Kueken | you can change name, tooltip, icon |
| 00:49.57 | Kueken | individually |
| 00:50.00 | Rodrigo | I am really surprised that Bounty haven't complained that Debates is the first Thought Defense (TD) map. |
| 00:50.12 | Bounty | I dont have to |
| 00:50.15 | wOlfLinG | onetwo, family guy is AWESOME :D |
| 00:50.22 | onetwo | haha |
| 00:50.23 | Bounty | Plenty of other people complaining it doesnt belong there |
| 00:50.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:50.32 | nevjmac | what bounty said :P |
| 00:50.39 | progammer | popularity defense: protect your map from falling of the lists |
| 00:50.47 | Bounty | ^win |
| 00:50.51 | Rodrigo | As soon as patch 1.2 comes out, Debates will be quickly removed from the TD category. I have to watch out. It will get too many thumbs down there. |
| 00:50.54 | nevjmac | thats implemented in everyones map yea? :P |
| 00:51.01 | Rodrigo | nice one programmer |
| 00:51.06 | onetwo | [16:50] <progammer> popularity defense: protect your map from falling of the lists |
| 00:51.09 | onetwo | wow did you make that up? |
| 00:51.13 | onetwo | are you a writer for family guy? |
| 00:51.15 | onetwo | or simpsons? |
| 00:51.16 | onetwo | cause you should be |
| 00:51.26 | progammer | i might consider |
| 00:51.32 | progammer | programming is boring as hell |
| 00:51.39 | Bounty | You know |
| 00:51.47 | Bounty | Someone should make a map called Popularity System |
| 00:51.49 | Catalisk | i wonder if i should publish tower offense |
| 00:51.51 | Rodrigo | Blizzard should let we get on the map editor whether or not the player gave thumbs up to the map. So, you can implement features for the players who gave a thumbs up. |
| 00:51.53 | Catalisk | in the TD category |
| 00:51.54 | Catalisk | lol |
| 00:51.58 | wOlfLinG | Progammer, you don't program! You progam! |
| 00:51.59 | Bounty | Yeah like |
| 00:52.03 | Bounty | make it a TD type |
| 00:52.13 | Bounty | and u have each wave be tons of civilians that represent players |
| 00:52.21 | Bounty | and you have to get them to go play ur map |
| 00:52.24 | Rodrigo | "YOU ARE DEAD! GAME OVER! PRESS THUMBS UP TO CONTINUE" |
| 00:52.27 | Bounty | and keep them away from nexus wars |
| 00:52.33 | progammer | nah you got it wrong, i'm a pro gammer |
| 00:52.34 | Catalisk | haha |
| 00:52.36 | progammer | i gamm |
| 00:52.43 | onetwo | call the civilians: "Sheep" |
| 00:52.53 | onetwo | brb |
| 00:53.07 | Bounty | You control the primary color intensity on my TV programmer? |
| 00:53.19 | Rodrigo | You should have a "Thumbs up" tower avaiable for the players who thumbed up. |
| 00:53.19 | Kueken | who doesn't? |
| 00:53.21 | Bounty | progamma |
| 00:53.23 | Bounty | gamma |
| 00:53.24 | Bounty | get it? |
| 00:53.28 | Kueken | oh |
| 00:53.31 | Kueken | -.- |
| 00:53.34 | Bounty | meh |
| 00:53.38 | Bounty | 2/10? |
| 00:53.41 | Kueken | that one was quite flat |
| 00:53.44 | nevjmac | lol |
| 00:53.46 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:53.55 | progammer | is gamma the one with highest frequency now ? |
| 00:54.00 | Kueken | I would say 2|10 |
| 00:54.18 | Rodrigo | I will get off college and go home to change my booster |
| 00:54.22 | Rodrigo | it's currently boosting debates |
| 00:54.27 | Rodrigo | I have to change to boost Platform DEfense |
| 00:54.29 | Bounty | in my TV settings it says it Controls the Intensity of Primary Colors |
| 00:54.31 | Rodrigo | before the patch 1.2 |
| 00:54.49 | Rodrigo | If I dont boost platform defense now, the map might be dead forever |
| 00:54.52 | Kueken | you need to reprogamm it to a thumbser after |
| 00:55.14 | nevjmac | hmmm what are these changes coming in 1.2? link? |
| 00:55.14 | Rodrigo | if you want to boost, the time is now |
| 00:55.20 | Rodrigo | today might be the last boosting day |
| 00:55.28 | Rodrigo | rating system |
| 00:55.32 | Bounty | Or |
| 00:55.35 | Bounty | Take the High Road rod |
| 00:55.45 | Bounty | and see this as a new start |
| 00:55.55 | Bounty | Rather then an opportunity to continue to take advantage of the system lol |
| 00:55.57 | Rodrigo | new youtube video will have to be called Debates: Thumbs Up |
| 00:56.08 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 00:56.41 | Rodrigo | This might be the time to bring NWW back to life |
| 00:57.04 | wOlfLinG | 6 words and 3 bits of punctuation: Alice Cooper > All! Even Chuck Norris! |
| 00:57.04 | Catalisk | lol |
| 00:57.15 | Catalisk | the whole point of them changing the system is so new maps have a chance |
| 00:57.18 | Catalisk | isn't it? |
| 00:57.24 | Rodrigo | well |
| 00:57.28 | Catalisk | that's what everyone complains about |
| 00:57.30 | Rodrigo | the opposite is seems to happen |
| 00:57.37 | Catalisk | it would be profoundly stupid of them not to address it |
| 00:57.39 | Rodrigo | new maps start with 0 thumbs up |
| 00:57.45 | Rodrigo | and therefore, they will be on the............................. |
| 00:57.49 | Rodrigo | fill the blanks |
| 00:57.51 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 00:57.52 | Catalisk | i guess we'll see |
| 00:57.53 | Kueken | progammer |
| 00:58.04 | nevjmac | so how does the thumbs up and down rating work? |
| 00:58.08 | Kueken | youtube recommends me to subscribe to your channel right now |
| 00:58.09 | progammer | lol artosis http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=173942 |
| 00:58.18 | progammer | i need to get some gsl after this final |
| 00:58.20 | Catalisk | you're probably right, I'm just hopeful that they aren't completely stupid about it |
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| 00:58.53 | Rodrigo | Sixen, have you played the new patch 1.2? |
| 00:59.04 | progammer | Kueken: they did a good job |
| 00:59.38 | Kueken | ... and an origami instructions channel :D |
| 00:59.46 | DarkRevenant | hmm |
| 01:00.27 | wOlfLinG | lol, thats pretty good progammer xD |
| 01:00.48 | Kueken | nah, not exactly my taste xD |
| 01:00.58 | onetwo | "Nick Tasteless Plott Your commentary's getting me so hot Got neurosis from Artosis cause you bunker rushed my heart" wtf |
| 01:01.02 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:01.03 | wOlfLinG | I leik all songs to do with SC2 :P |
| 01:01.20 | wOlfLinG | Manlier than Chinro, sexier than Jaedong |
| 01:01.20 | wOlfLinG | Younger than Leenock, dick 5 foot long |
| 01:01.20 | wOlfLinG | Better than Boxer at oh so many things |
| 01:01.21 | wOlfLinG | But there's one thing I'll never forget |
| 01:01.21 | wOlfLinG | There's just SO MANY BANELINGS |
| 01:01.21 | wOlfLinG | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.34 | Rodrigo | Im going home. I have to boost Platform Defense this night. I just hhope the patch is not coming this night |
| 01:01.35 | progammer | sometimes you gotta wonder what have I watched to have this thing recommended |
| 01:01.35 | progammer | its funny sometime |
| 01:01.39 | Rodrigo | I still have 3 maps to boost |
| 01:01.54 | moshewe | anyone here writing raw galaxy code? |
| 01:01.58 | Kueken | <- |
| 01:02.09 | RodOfNOD | exclusively or mixed moshewe? |
| 01:02.11 | Rodrigo | damn stupid ipod |
| 01:02.22 | Rodrigo | I had set my ipod to boost my maps (connecting to my pc remotely) |
| 01:02.23 | RodOfNOD | cuz i do mixed |
| 01:02.27 | onetwo | lol wtf |
| 01:02.29 | Rodrigo | but my college firewall is stopping it |
| 01:02.29 | onetwo | a team of ipods |
| 01:02.30 | onetwo | boosting maps |
| 01:02.34 | Catalisk | your ipod? |
| 01:02.35 | Catalisk | seriously? |
| 01:02.39 | Catalisk | the ipod can do that? |
| 01:02.45 | onetwo | lol the cops gun down ipods in gang related sc2 violence |
| 01:02.46 | Rodrigo | my college firewall is not allowing me to boost on my ipod |
| 01:02.56 | onetwo | lead gang member rodrigo seen fleeing from the violence |
| 01:02.57 | nevjmac | lol @rodrigo... |
| 01:02.58 | Rodrigo | my ipod is connected to my pc. I can control my macros through the ipod |
| 01:03.01 | Kueken | moshewe: that was a "me" |
| 01:03.14 | Rodrigo | so, I can boost maps through my ipod |
| 01:03.29 | Rodrigo | from anywhere |
| 01:03.39 | RodOfNOD | what do u mean by macros? |
| 01:03.49 | Rodrigo | macros are mouse recorders |
| 01:03.53 | Rodrigo | record clicks |
| 01:03.59 | Rodrigo | and mouse and keyboard movements |
| 01:04.04 | Rodrigo | a set of instructions |
| 01:04.06 | RodOfNOD | yes of course |
| 01:04.09 | Rodrigo | that creates a map for 5 min |
| 01:04.15 | wOlfLinG | Anyone remember the blizzcon costume/ dance contest? |
| 01:04.17 | Rodrigo | and play it forever |
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| 01:04.28 | wOlfLinG | There was a clip in the background of an Azerothian band |
| 01:04.38 | RodOfNOD | i dont get how that helps rodrigo |
| 01:04.40 | wOlfLinG | Well, those models are in the WoW model viewer :D |
| 01:04.55 | wOlfLinG | imports a band into a map for no reason |
| 01:04.57 | Rodrigo | RodOfNOD, a map gets +1 popularity when it gets played for more than 5 min |
| 01:05.02 | RodOfNOD | i was under the impression u needed other real people to get boosted |
| 01:05.09 | Rodrigo | so, the map is created, played for 5 min, and quit |
| 01:05.13 | Rodrigo | and created again |
| 01:05.19 | Rodrigo | giving +1 popularity each 6 minutes |
| 01:05.20 | RodOfNOD | with comps? |
| 01:05.24 | Rodrigo | yes |
| 01:05.26 | Rodrigo | full house comps |
| 01:05.30 | Rodrigo | and opened to public |
| 01:05.32 | Rodrigo | with comps |
| 01:05.46 | RodOfNOD | k what if u had 2 player map |
| 01:05.52 | RodOfNOD | that then became 12 player map when it was boosted |
| 01:05.52 | Rodrigo | you and 1 comp |
| 01:05.54 | RodOfNOD | would that work? |
| 01:06.02 | Rodrigo | add comps until the lobby is full, open to public, and start |
| 01:06.24 | RodOfNOD | what application are u using for ur macros? |
| 01:06.38 | Rodrigo | something manager, downloaded on thepiratebay |
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| 01:07.11 | DarkRevenant | does anyone know if |
| 01:07.18 | DarkRevenant | private-hosted maps are local hosted |
| 01:07.22 | DarkRevenant | or bnet hosted |
| 01:07.37 | Rodrigo | I hope its local hosted |
| 01:07.50 | nevjmac | I beleive they are bnet hosted just not searchable |
| 01:07.52 | progammer | better start f5 it |
| 01:07.53 | nevjmac | as in you can't open to public |
| 01:07.54 | progammer | who get the links to their patch note pages ? |
| 01:07.55 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.59 | nevjmac | ? |
| 01:08.21 | Rodrigo | no. its actually battle.net hosted |
| 01:08.28 | Rodrigo | because it takes time to be created |
| 01:08.31 | Rodrigo | and uses the internet |
| 01:08.36 | Rodrigo | when the internet is slow, it takes more time |
| 01:09.02 | Kueken | well, sometimes it takes 2 minutes for a coop game to find computer opponents :/ |
| 01:09.12 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 01:09.15 | Kueken | I dont get these times straight |
| 01:09.21 | DarkRevenant | hmm |
| 01:09.23 | DarkRevenant | well |
| 01:09.30 | DarkRevenant | that might explain the lag in my map |
| 01:09.30 | nevjmac | its matching you up to blizzard employees ;P |
| 01:09.37 | DarkRevenant | things that shouldnt be lagging, cause major lag |
| 01:09.45 | Rodrigo | there is NO lag in lan sc2 games |
| 01:09.48 | Rodrigo | the lag is 0 |
| 01:09.53 | Kueken | in singleplayer my test map laggs like hell |
| 01:09.58 | Kueken | once published |
| 01:10.00 | DarkRevenant | i mean internet lag |
| 01:10.02 | Kueken | no lag at all |
| 01:10.08 | DarkRevenant | in singleplayer there's absolutely nothing holding it back |
| 01:10.10 | onetwo | lag |
| 01:10.15 | nevjmac | lag? |
| 01:10.26 | DarkRevenant | the weird thing is |
| 01:10.27 | Rodrigo | singleplayer is still battle.net side |
| 01:10.34 | DarkRevenant | several updates ago |
| 01:10.37 | DarkRevenant | singleplayer == test map |
| 01:11.05 | DarkRevenant | several updates ago, a gun (which acts exactly the same as it does now), didnt cause any lag |
| 01:11.06 | Rodrigo | as a prove of that, if you disconnect from the internet, you will be dropped, and when you join battle.net again, it will show the progress of your game until that moment stored on the battle.net server |
| 01:11.07 | DarkRevenant | now, it causes lag |
| 01:11.19 | progammer | ok f5 this one http://us.starcraft2.com/launcher/patch-notes.htm |
| 01:11.47 | onetwo | 1.1.2? |
| 01:11.48 | Rodrigo | im going home |
| 01:11.49 | Rodrigo | see ya! |
| 01:16.39 | nevjmac | what is the map file size for uploading to bnet? |
| 01:16.46 | A1win | is it possible to increase the attack speed of a unit's weapon based on a trigger variable multiplier? |
| 01:16.48 | nevjmac | is it total size or compressed size? |
| 01:16.56 | nevjmac | and what is the value allowed |
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| 01:17.10 | Catalisk | alwin |
| 01:17.15 | A1win | compressed, 10,5 MB |
| 01:17.20 | Catalisk | i'd suggest using the trigger to apply a buff or an effect |
| 01:17.28 | nevjmac | so I'm allowed 10.5 MB compressed |
| 01:17.37 | nevjmac | thank god I was starting to worry there |
| 01:17.38 | Catalisk | i dont know if it's possible with a trigger |
| 01:17.41 | A1win | Catalisk, but can it scale properly? |
| 01:17.42 | Catalisk | but i'm sure it's possible that way |
| 01:18.06 | A1win | hmm I guess I could just apply a stack like every 0.1 of the value |
| 01:18.19 | DarkRevenant | how exactly does that stack size limit of 2Mb work |
| 01:18.42 | A1win | what 2Mb? |
| 01:18.52 | DarkRevenant | the sc2 trigger VM |
| 01:19.00 | DarkRevenant | has a maximum stack size of 2 MB |
| 01:19.07 | Catalisk | revenant, that means the memory taken up by functions and local variables |
| 01:19.07 | A1win | ah... dunno |
| 01:19.10 | Catalisk | can't exceed 2 mb |
| 01:19.20 | Catalisk | assuming that number is correct |
| 01:19.26 | DarkRevenant | how would I gauge |
| 01:19.30 | DarkRevenant | the memory taken up by functions |
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| 01:19.56 | Catalisk | you're using the whole stack? |
| 01:20.03 | DarkRevenant | for example, instead of data, i use functions filled with a bunch of array definitions for all my properties because of the nature of my |
| 01:20.07 | DarkRevenant | no i have not reached it yet |
| 01:20.19 | Catalisk | usually it doesnt get very big if you haven't got recursion |
| 01:20.40 | DarkRevenant | the whole map runs on a periodic of 1/32 |
| 01:21.08 | DarkRevenant | strangely enough there's a lot of multiplayer lag... but only when someone's firing a couple particular weapons |
| 01:21.09 | Catalisk | functions that return arrays like that |
| 01:21.17 | Catalisk | won't store the arrays on the stack |
| 01:21.20 | DarkRevenant | and those weapons didnt lag previously |
| 01:21.38 | DarkRevenant | well |
| 01:21.42 | DarkRevenant | the function doesn't return an array |
| 01:21.48 | DarkRevenant | it sets a whole bunch of variables |
| 01:21.50 | Catalisk | oh |
| 01:21.53 | DarkRevenant | it's like a class |
| 01:21.56 | DarkRevenant | system |
| 01:22.01 | Catalisk | they're global vars? |
| 01:22.06 | DarkRevenant | yep |
| 01:22.07 | Catalisk | those don't usually use the stack either |
| 01:22.10 | Catalisk | at least traditionally |
| 01:22.12 | DarkRevenant | the projectiles are all globals |
| 01:22.39 | Catalisk | if it works the same way as the non VM stack |
| 01:22.43 | Catalisk | which I'm guesisng it does |
| 01:22.49 | Catalisk | globals have their own space |
| 01:22.56 | Catalisk | and it's not on the stack |
| 01:22.59 | Catalisk | the stack has locals |
| 01:23.29 | DarkRevenant | very few triggers run for longer than a single cycle |
| 01:23.42 | Catalisk | i'm not sure what you mean by a cycle |
| 01:23.44 | DarkRevenant | and very few are threaded |
| 01:23.46 | DarkRevenant | as in |
| 01:23.47 | DarkRevenant | no wait |
| 01:23.48 | Catalisk | once the function returns it's gone from the stack |
| 01:24.07 | DarkRevenant | i still dont get |
| 01:24.10 | DarkRevenant | why it's lagging so bad |
| 01:24.14 | DarkRevenant | only in certain weapons |
| 01:24.25 | A1win | if I have a buff that has attack speed multiplier 1.1, and I apply two stacks of that buff, will the multiplier be 1.1+1.1 or 1.1*1.1? |
| 01:24.26 | DarkRevenant | it's the stuff that shoots randomly that happens to lag |
| 01:24.29 | DarkRevenant | rapidly* |
| 01:24.36 | DarkRevenant | but this rapid weapon has shots that last for a very short time |
| 01:24.38 | DarkRevenant | and travel quickly |
| 01:25.00 | DarkRevenant | whereas a less rapid weapon with slow shots that also have extra collision checks and have a long range doesn't lag |
| 01:25.22 | onetwo | A1win |
| 01:25.31 | DarkRevenant | the other weapon is harder on the computer |
| 01:25.33 | onetwo | say your unit attacks at 1.0 speed |
| 01:25.47 | onetwo | i believe that the buffs get applied one after the other |
| 01:25.52 | onetwo | so 1.1 stack count 1 gets applied |
| 01:25.53 | DarkRevenant | A1win, multiplicitive buffs do not stack like that |
| 01:25.53 | onetwo | then 1.1 again |
| 01:25.58 | onetwo | sos 1.1*1.1 |
| 01:26.01 | Catalisk | i'm not sure, rapid fire stuff can get laggy |
| 01:26.06 | onetwo | but test it |
| 01:26.08 | Catalisk | can you even double apply buffs? |
| 01:26.09 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 01:26.11 | onetwo | yeah |
| 01:26.13 | onetwo | stack count |
| 01:26.19 | DarkRevenant | the multiplier is 2x(1.1-1)+1 |
| 01:26.20 | Catalisk | ah |
| 01:26.22 | DarkRevenant | so 1.2 |
| 01:26.32 | Catalisk | good to know |
| 01:26.43 | DarkRevenant | the thing is |
| 01:26.46 | A1win | oh yeah right that's what I meant with the first option :P |
| 01:26.55 | Catalisk | see what i really want to know, is how to make a damn unit slow down and stop before it starts casting an ability |
| 01:27.00 | DarkRevenant | making a projectile obviously takes more than just moving it |
| 01:27.03 | Catalisk | when the move and ability are both queued |
| 01:27.04 | Catalisk | lol |
| 01:27.04 | DarkRevenant | even though its all scripted |
| 01:27.07 | DarkRevenant | but |
| 01:27.10 | DarkRevenant | WHY is it lagging badly now |
| 01:27.13 | DarkRevenant | did bnet just get worse? |
| 01:27.21 | Vail|homeWork | yes |
| 01:27.23 | DarkRevenant | because this sort of shit never happened in wc3 |
| 01:27.29 | progammer | expect patch to come any seconds |
| 01:27.37 | progammer | it usually that lagg when matenance |
| 01:27.43 | DarkRevenant | i had stuff that was a LOT more unoptimized |
| 01:27.47 | DarkRevenant | in wc3 |
| 01:27.55 | DarkRevenant | but it was highly playable |
| 01:27.58 | DarkRevenant | since it was locally hosted |
| 01:28.03 | DarkRevenant | now, i have something much much more optimized |
| 01:28.08 | DarkRevenant | lo and behold, it lags like shit |
| 01:28.10 | DarkRevenant | in sc2 |
| 01:28.43 | DarkRevenant | argh how the hell can i even solve it? |
| 01:28.53 | DarkRevenant | i've already optimized my code as much as it can reasonably go |
| 01:29.02 | DarkRevenant | so its just the pure amount of global variables being written |
| 01:29.08 | DarkRevenant | that saturates the bnet servers |
| 01:29.16 | DarkRevenant | while a local host would have enough of an upload to handle it |
| 01:29.18 | DarkRevenant | urgh |
| 01:31.08 | progammer | the main problem with bnet is control |
| 01:31.13 | progammer | everything is controled |
| 01:31.23 | onetwo | i wonder if i can sign a deal with MGM to be allowed exclusive license rights to make the james bond starcraft 2 map... to screw EA who holds video game license atm |
| 01:31.25 | progammer | that core design will not change so deal with it |
| 01:33.07 | Catalisk | do you use keyboard inputs for the laggy weapons? |
| 01:33.53 | doite | If i set mutalisk damage = 1, will the bouncing effect be 1 aswell?= |
| 01:34.47 | Kueken | if you set it to be 1 |
| 01:34.52 | doite | m |
| 01:35.07 | doite | oh |
| 01:35.11 | doite | u mean the bouncing effect |
| 01:35.16 | Kueken | :) |
| 01:35.18 | doite | so i have to set that 2 1 aswell |
| 01:35.24 | nevjmac | anyone know much about ability Set ID field and how extensive it is? |
| 01:35.32 | Kueken | there are multiple bouncing effects |
| 01:36.06 | nevjmac | the zerg units all have a burrow but if I link all the burrow and unburrow abilities with the set ID field |
| 01:36.11 | Kueken | gn8 |
| 01:36.18 | nevjmac | if I order a zergling to use ability ultralisk burrow |
| 01:36.21 | nevjmac | will the zergling burrow? |
| 01:36.54 | Vail|homeWork | there is no sanctuary |
| 01:37.20 | nevjmac | huh? |
| 01:37.34 | Vail|homeWork | its a line from the movie logans run.. |
| 01:38.05 | nevjmac | anyone know the answer to my problem? |
| 01:38.39 | Vail|homeWork | but on a note related to your question i think with triggers you have to use the correct ability in the order for the zerg unit you want to unburrow |
| 01:38.47 | nevjmac | this is data |
| 01:38.58 | nevjmac | Let me explain further: |
| 01:39.40 | nevjmac | I have an ability that orders all zerg to burrow in a search area, but that requires 11+ issue orders for all the different zerg abilities. I can reduce that down to one by linking all the ID's together will reduce my data coding greatly |
| 01:39.54 | nevjmac | I want to know if it will work before I go messing with all my code lol |
| 01:40.17 | Vail|homeWork | oh i have no idea.. |
| 01:40.37 | Vail|homeWork | theoretically if they all have the same set id then that should work |
| 01:40.49 | nevjmac | or does it only work when you have all the units in a group and you issue order burrow by clicking the command card button |
| 01:42.38 | nevjmac | going to have to make a test map it looks like :P |
| 01:42.53 | Vail|homeWork | likely |
| 01:43.13 | doite | Ok |
| 01:43.19 | doite | Someone from europe wanna be tester? |
| 01:43.36 | doite | Its published and popular, but the random ppl just do crazy things |
| 01:43.57 | grim001 | nevjmac: instead, make a custom function to do it |
| 01:44.54 | nevjmac | grim I am wanting to do this in data alone |
| 01:45.03 | nevjmac | its an ability like an aura |
| 01:45.05 | nevjmac | so it moves with the hero |
| 01:45.09 | nevjmac | I would rather not use triggers |
| 01:46.25 | Catalisk | doite each bounce has a different damage set |
| 01:50.23 | nevjmac | omfg it does work |
| 01:50.30 | nevjmac | YUS! |
| 01:50.49 | nevjmac | Life saver :) |
| 01:53.00 | PointBlank | um |
| 01:53.10 | PointBlank | how do u start a map back at version 0.1 |
| 01:56.02 | doite | I saw |
| 01:56.05 | doite | Well hmm |
| 01:56.09 | doite | air was 2 hard.. |
| 01:56.12 | doite | i have them with 1 hp |
| 01:56.15 | doite | and 1 damage |
| 01:56.18 | doite | Still to hard.. |
| 01:56.39 | doite | Hard as third person shooter to aim in air.. and u bounce back when getting shot at |
| 01:56.42 | doite | Its cause |
| 01:56.44 | doite | caos |
| 01:56.47 | doite | chaos |
| 01:56.48 | doite | .. |
| 01:58.09 | nevjmac | does the weapon have a force effect pushing you back? |
| 01:59.48 | wOlfLinG | Ok, i've made a few heroes. However, when i click near one, but not on it, the hero is ordered to follow the unit |
| 01:59.56 | wOlfLinG | What could cause this? |
| 01:59.56 | doite | dont know |
| 02:00.01 | doite | Its the mutalisk |
| 02:00.14 | doite | regular mutalisk |
| 02:00.17 | doite | with regular wepon |
| 02:00.20 | doite | just 1 hp and 1 damage |
| 02:00.51 | nevjmac | I don't think it has a pushback effect :/ |
| 02:01.02 | doite | Well in third person they do =( |
| 02:01.14 | doite | Well.. how do i remove this bounce effect then |
| 02:01.20 | doite | Becouse since theres 2 players |
| 02:01.28 | doite | we get hurt x2 or x1 |
| 02:01.34 | doite | since they bounce 2 times |
| 02:02.37 | nevjmac | the first launch missile will upon damage have another search or set |
| 02:02.58 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442d304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.48.77) |
| 02:03.04 | Bounty | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1213111662 |
| 02:03.11 | nevjmac | doite |
| 02:03.11 | Bounty | Where is the "secret" ? |
| 02:03.17 | nevjmac | its the launch first bounce missile |
| 02:03.39 | doite | ok |
| 02:03.43 | doite | and what do i do with that |
| 02:03.45 | doite | erase it |
| 02:03.48 | doite | ? |
| 02:04.10 | nevjmac | the impact effect |
| 02:04.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer_ (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 02:04.14 | nevjmac | take out the second set |
| 02:04.19 | Bounty | progammer |
| 02:04.22 | Bounty | did u see the 1.2 notes? |
| 02:04.25 | RodOfNOD | isthe patch up? |
| 02:04.28 | Bounty | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1213111662 |
| 02:04.30 | Bounty | the notes are |
| 02:04.33 | Bounty | i dont know about the patch |
| 02:04.41 | Bounty | but i am having trouble finding what the "big" secret is |
| 02:04.42 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:04.45 | progammer_ | wow that was fast |
| 02:04.48 | progammer_ | brb front page |
| 02:04.54 | RodOfNOD | no clans yet? |
| 02:05.07 | nevjmac | extreme graphics options |
| 02:05.10 | nevjmac | I like the sound of that :D |
| 02:05.16 | Lilianna | Wow... I didnt realize how GPU intense Beat Hazard was. :o |
| 02:05.20 | Bounty | wtf is the big secret announcement! |
| 02:05.27 | Bounty | dont tell me its the extreme graphics option |
| 02:05.29 | Bounty | ill be pissed |
| 02:05.46 | doite | cant find it |
| 02:05.50 | Lilianna | secret announcement? |
| 02:05.52 | RodOfNOD | Map makers can now use custom UI layout files to create new UI or override existing game UI. |
| 02:06.06 | progammer_ | RodOfNOD: yes that was confirmed |
| 02:06.10 | progammer_ | starjeweled btw |
| 02:06.11 | Bounty | yeah they said something in 1.2 is something that has yet to be announced |
| 02:06.22 | Bounty | so wtf is it |
| 02:06.24 | wOlfLinG | Yes! Map makers can now use custom UI layout files to create new UI or override existing game UI. |
| 02:06.27 | RodOfNOD | i know its confirmed im reading the patch notes |
| 02:06.34 | RodOfNOD | of course what does that really mean |
| 02:06.36 | wOlfLinG | Was talking about that earlier :D |
| 02:06.37 | doite | FieldMutalisk - Glaive Wurm (Launch First Bounce Missile) Effect - Impact EffectMutalisk - Glaive Wurm (Second Set) |
| 02:06.39 | doite | That one? |
| 02:06.41 | Bounty | Wtf does that mean? |
| 02:06.46 | Bounty | Map makers can now use custom UI layout files to create new UI or override existing game UI. |
| 02:06.47 | doite | nevjmac |
| 02:06.52 | Bounty | i have no idea what that means |
| 02:06.53 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:06.57 | *** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~Christoph@150.135.211.242) |
| 02:07.04 | RodOfNOD | in theory it means we can alter sc2layout files |
| 02:07.05 | nevjmac | YAY font styles!!! |
| 02:07.15 | onetwo | ⢠Map locale management has been added. |
| 02:07.21 | nevjmac | no more boring starcraft font style |
| 02:07.24 | progammer_ | damn this is so long |
| 02:07.25 | RodOfNOD | The help dialogs tech tree has been improved. |
| 02:07.27 | Bounty | wait |
| 02:07.28 | Bounty | i found something |
| 02:07.30 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:07.32 | Bounty | is this what i think it is? |
| 02:07.34 | Bounty | guys |
| 02:07.35 | Bounty | New trigger event: Mouse Moved, sent in response to the mouse being moved in the game world. |
| 02:07.40 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:07.43 | RodOfNOD | bastards!! |
| 02:07.45 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 02:07.45 | Bounty | is that mouse tracking? |
| 02:07.49 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:08.13 | Bounty | pretty sure thats mouse tracking |
| 02:08.19 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.19 | Bounty | what else could you use that event for |
| 02:08.28 | Lilianna | RodOfNOD, You can make a UI with XML now instead of dialogue triggers |
| 02:08.35 | Lilianna | Its what I think it means! |
| 02:08.36 | RodOfNOD | maybe |
| 02:08.41 | RodOfNOD | we shall see |
| 02:08.43 | doite | I cant find itiitititiititit |
| 02:08.56 | RodOfNOD | iknow it means they will allow u to alter the sc2layout files |
| 02:09.01 | A1win | wooo my talent system is gonna be epic :] |
| 02:09.06 | RodOfNOD | the ? is what will they allow us to pass to them |
| 02:09.06 | A1win | simple, but epic :P |
| 02:09.12 | doite | 600+ are playing my map and just a fuckin half day ago it was 100- per hour |
| 02:09.12 | Bounty | so how do we play on the public test realm |
| 02:09.15 | doite | so much to do |
| 02:09.23 | onetwo | -- Bank Option, used to change options for banks including adding a signature |
| 02:09.25 | A1win | 4 different talents, each with max 5 points, and you have max 10 levels |
| 02:09.26 | onetwo | whats that |
| 02:09.37 | doite | how do i remove this bounce effect from the damn mutalisks |
| 02:09.48 | A1win | but all 4 combinations of 5+5 talents have very different gameplay :x |
| 02:09.57 | onetwo | ⢠New trigger function: Verify Bank, used to verify that a bankâs signature is intact. |
| 02:09.58 | A1win | err not 4 |
| 02:09.58 | Bibendus|AFK | omg? |
| 02:09.58 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 3 hours 15 minutes 40 seconds |
| 02:09.59 | nevjmac | I told you doite |
| 02:10.00 | Bibendus | chats? |
| 02:10.00 | Bibendus | lol |
| 02:10.03 | onetwo | ⢠New trigger function: Verify Bank, used to verify that a bankâs signature is intact.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:10.04 | onetwo | wooo |
| 02:10.05 | Bounty | guys |
| 02:10.06 | A1win | 6 |
| 02:10.06 | doite | well i didnt find it |
| 02:10.06 | RodOfNOD | Fungal Growth no longer affects air units. |
| 02:10.07 | doite | i ask |
| 02:10.08 | Bounty | fuck man |
| 02:10.08 | doite | ed |
| 02:10.10 | RodOfNOD | thats a big deal |
| 02:10.12 | Bounty | did anyonre read what i said |
| 02:10.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:10.15 | Bounty | New trigger event: Mouse Moved, sent in response to the mouse being moved in the game world. |
| 02:10.15 | nevjmac | take out the second set in the impact efect of the first missile launch |
| 02:10.21 | onetwo | we already knew that was coming |
| 02:10.24 | onetwo | but itll have bnet lag prolly |
| 02:10.28 | RodOfNOD | Repairing SCVs now assume the same threat priority as the unit theyre repairing. |
| 02:10.29 | Bounty | doesnt matter |
| 02:10.31 | RodOfNOD | BIG DEAL |
| 02:10.38 | Bounty | but heres the question |
| 02:10.38 | doite | FieldMutalisk - Glaive Wurm (Launch First Bounce Missile) Effect - Impact EffectMutalisk - Glaive Wurm (Second Set) |
| 02:10.40 | doite | that one? |
| 02:10.41 | Bounty | everyone hush |
| 02:10.44 | Bounty | heres the question |
| 02:10.46 | nevjmac | yes |
| 02:10.50 | wOlfLinG | :O They are fixing the for function |
| 02:10.57 | Bounty | What in the patch notes, is that secret addition they were talking about? |
| 02:11.02 | Bounty | Thats the real question |
| 02:11.03 | doite | in the second bounce |
| 02:11.06 | doite | should i do the same? |
| 02:11.06 | A1win | is there an easy way to disable all alerts from players? |
| 02:11.08 | nevjmac | no |
| 02:11.11 | doite | k |
| 02:11.12 | nevjmac | because it won't even getthere |
| 02:11.14 | RodOfNOD | Map locale management has been added. |
| 02:11.16 | nevjmac | it won't go past the first lol |
| 02:11.16 | RodOfNOD | ?? |
| 02:11.19 | RodOfNOD | what does that mean |
| 02:11.23 | A1win | if I disable the alert panel, do alerts still play their sounds? |
| 02:11.40 | A1win | nvm I'll try ;p |
| 02:11.50 | RodOfNOD | ooh they have foreign language support maybe |
| 02:11.53 | Bibendus | An Extreme graphics option has been added: |
| 02:11.54 | Bibendus | rofl? |
| 02:11.56 | Bibendus | xD |
| 02:12.00 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.06 | doite | FieldMutalisk - Glaive Wurm (Launch First Bounce Missile) Effect - Impact Effect |
| 02:12.08 | doite | like this now |
| 02:12.09 | doite | good? |
| 02:12.21 | RodOfNOD | The game will now properly find custom imported files within mods. |
| 02:12.21 | RodOfNOD | The game will now properly find custom imported files within mods. |
| 02:12.32 | doite | Thanks man |
| 02:13.00 | doite | Why does everyone coming in each others faces?! becouse of a patch!? |
| 02:13.04 | Vail|homeWork | yes but is any one actually able to patch up and try it ? |
| 02:13.09 | RodOfNOD | the secret is the dialog editor |
| 02:13.11 | onetwo | harder |
| 02:13.12 | RodOfNOD | it has to be |
| 02:13.15 | onetwo | oooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh |
| 02:13.27 | onetwo | patchnotes, want a cigarette? |
| 02:13.47 | RodOfNOD | gonna be rewriting my help i see hehe |
| 02:14.11 | onetwo | so the big news is can we publish to other locales |
| 02:14.12 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:14.13 | onetwo | ? |
| 02:14.17 | Bibendus | Fungal Growth no longer affects air units. |
| 02:14.20 | Bibendus | ouch |
| 02:14.30 | PointBlank | bounty u still there |
| 02:14.35 | Bibendus | Further editor tips and hints have been added. |
| 02:14.36 | Bounty | yeah |
| 02:14.37 | Bibendus | lol finally |
| 02:14.40 | Bibendus | they are filling |
| 02:14.43 | Bibendus | the fucking empty tips |
| 02:14.46 | Bibendus | in the 95% of fields |
| 02:14.47 | Bibendus | lol |
| 02:14.51 | RodOfNOD | The mouse wheel now scrolls the control under the cursor. |
| 02:14.53 | RodOfNOD | what does taht mean? |
| 02:14.57 | PointBlank | you publish lots of maps, is there any way to unplublish and reversion from 0.1? |
| 02:15.25 | A1win | "manage published" and delete it? |
| 02:15.25 | Bounty | u have to rename it |
| 02:15.34 | progammer_ | Sixen: how do i get to ptr right now ? |
| 02:15.35 | RodOfNOD | Edit boxes are now available for trigger dialogs. |
| 02:15.37 | Bibendus | u loose |
| 02:15.39 | Bibendus | the name |
| 02:15.39 | RodOfNOD | bout damn time |
| 02:15.40 | Bibendus | if u do it |
| 02:15.43 | wOlfLinG | Gah! No EU PTR forum >< |
| 02:15.43 | Bibendus | don't do it :D |
| 02:15.48 | A1win | really? |
| 02:15.48 | wOlfLinG | Also, locale support is good :D |
| 02:15.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mischgasm (ad117cef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.17.124.239) |
| 02:15.52 | Bibendus | if u delete u can't use the name again |
| 02:15.56 | Mischgasm | Hello |
| 02:15.59 | A1win | I thought I did it once |
| 02:16.05 | Bibendus | not with same name |
| 02:16.05 | Mischgasm | Is custom map night going on? |
| 02:16.09 | Bibendus | its a big problem |
| 02:16.10 | A1win | I guess not then |
| 02:16.22 | PointBlank | ah |
| 02:16.26 | RodOfNOD | -- Bank Option, used to change options for banks including adding a signature |
| 02:16.29 | RodOfNOD | what is a signature? |
| 02:16.31 | progammer_ | Mischgasm: i'm not sure but queengambit is supposed to host it |
| 02:16.50 | RodOfNOD | New trigger function: Verify Bank, used to verify that a banks signature is intact. |
| 02:16.55 | RodOfNOD | checksum? |
| 02:17.01 | A1win | is there a way to properly publish single player maps without having to deal with bnet lag? |
| 02:17.17 | onetwo | no |
| 02:17.29 | progammer_ | hope we have some kind of half good protection |
| 02:17.34 | PointBlank | cuz what i did was published my map originally with an accent in the name é but found that it wasn't searchable ... upon renaming said é to an e, it still remained unsearchable ... which makes me think it's being searched as the first name this whole time? |
| 02:17.39 | Catalisk | no more fungaling mutas :( |
| 02:18.13 | wOlfLinG | The PTR Faq says that they aren't doing custom maps in the PTR, but 1.2 is quite a big patch for custom maps :/ |
| 02:18.19 | RodOfNOD | Harvesting units no longer avoid enemy units. |
| 02:18.23 | RodOfNOD | what does that mean |
| 02:18.26 | onetwo | well youll get editor |
| 02:18.27 | DarkRevenant | the PTR is for testing the chat rooms |
| 02:18.28 | RodOfNOD | means they willnow attack? |
| 02:18.28 | onetwo | just no publishing |
| 02:18.29 | onetwo | i believe |
| 02:18.29 | DarkRevenant | lol |
| 02:18.36 | DarkRevenant | no editor |
| 02:18.39 | DarkRevenant | they say no editor |
| 02:18.42 | onetwo | oh |
| 02:18.47 | onetwo | man why you gotta be so dark |
| 02:18.49 | onetwo | all the time |
| 02:18.50 | onetwo | oh right |
| 02:19.12 | wOlfLinG | Rod, means that they now collide with enemies i think |
| 02:19.31 | Vail|homeWork | some one let me know when and if they succede in getting teh PTR. |
| 02:19.34 | Catalisk | bank verification is huge |
| 02:19.37 | onetwo | yeah |
| 02:19.38 | wOlfLinG | yeah |
| 02:19.40 | progammer_ | blizz always redeem themselves after those big patch |
| 02:19.45 | progammer_ | but damn it i need those faster |
| 02:19.56 | wOlfLinG | Love banks and dialogs :D My 2 favourite things in SC2 mapping! |
| 02:19.58 | onetwo | most of this patch doesnt change my maps in progress |
| 02:19.59 | onetwo | actually |
| 02:20.09 | RodOfNOD | Enemy units no longer show passive buttons in the command card. |
| 02:20.11 | onetwo | but nonetheless important thigns fixed |
| 02:20.11 | RodOfNOD | BOUT DAMN TIME |
| 02:20.55 | progammer_ | hell its not yet time :( |
| 02:21.00 | progammer_ | its just the ptr :P |
| 02:21.10 | RodOfNOD | Actors with a large number of create events no longer crash the map. |
| 02:21.11 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 02:21.35 | Vail|homeWork | yeah the pacth its self is likely still a month away atleast |
| 02:21.51 | progammer_ | wth is this ? screen space ambient occlusion. |
| 02:22.10 | progammer_ | Vail|homeWork: well they will get it out before the end of Dec |
| 02:22.42 | wOlfLinG | Anyway, sleep teim! Z |
| 02:22.44 | wOlfLinG | zzzz |
| 02:22.44 | Vail|homeWork | i hope |
| 02:22.45 | wOlfLinG | zz |
| 02:22.45 | wOlfLinG | z |
| 02:22.47 | wOlfLinG | zzzzz |
| 02:22.48 | wOlfLinG | etc |
| 02:22.50 | onetwo | EXTREME GRAPHICS WITH SCREEN SPACE AMBIENT OCCLUSION |
| 02:22.58 | progammer_ | yeah wth is that |
| 02:22.59 | onetwo | YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT |
| 02:22.59 | Catalisk | oh awesome |
| 02:23.05 | Catalisk | they fixed camera follow |
| 02:23.07 | PointBlank | lol finally removed VR speed |
| 02:23.19 | Bibendus | Protoss structures can no longer be powered without a power source if constructed while powered by a Warp Prism under the effects of Neural Parasite. |
| 02:23.25 | Bibendus | when the fuck this happened? |
| 02:23.26 | Bibendus | ROFL |
| 02:23.27 | onetwo | back in my days of melee, cough march, we didnt need VR speed |
| 02:23.33 | Catalisk | lol |
| 02:23.42 | Catalisk | VR speed is insane |
| 02:23.45 | progammer_ | Bibendus: everything can happen, i'm on a warp prism |
| 02:23.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster JManV (450e6aef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.14.106.239) |
| 02:23.48 | Mischgasm | Alright, so this might be the wrong place, but I need a group to make an awesome map with. Maps on sc2 are not nearly as enjoyable as they were back in the good times of wc3. I think a lot of people are being deprived of how awesome customs can be. I only have some experience with the sc2 editor, triggering and programming not involving the data editor would be my strong points. I can do pretty much everything, but the fact th |
| 02:23.51 | Bibendus | xD |
| 02:23.56 | Mischgasm | anyone got a project I can join in on? |
| 02:23.58 | Bibendus | no more horses? |
| 02:23.58 | Bibendus | lol |
| 02:24.00 | onetwo | i agree about wc3 vs sc2 enjoyability |
| 02:24.05 | Mischgasm | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:24.10 | Catalisk | i dont see anything with the popularity stuff though |
| 02:24.17 | onetwo | yeah |
| 02:24.19 | onetwo | thats next |
| 02:24.19 | Bibendus | popularit |
| 02:24.20 | onetwo | probably 1.3 |
| 02:24.22 | Bibendus | is with the market |
| 02:24.27 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:24.29 | RodOfNOD | HUGFE |
| 02:24.31 | RodOfNOD | HUGE |
| 02:24.32 | progammer_ | Mischgasm: we're alll busy rofling the patch |
| 02:24.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster nevjmac (~nevjmac@c114-77-179-75.hillc3.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 02:24.42 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 02:24.44 | Bibendus | wasnt there |
| 02:24.44 | Mischgasm | I just got the game a couple days ago |
| 02:24.47 | Bibendus | the lag removing |
| 02:24.47 | Vail|homeWork | there is no patch... |
| 02:24.47 | Mischgasm | so I wouldn't know |
| 02:24.48 | Bibendus | in this patch? |
| 02:24.51 | Vail|homeWork | yet |
| 02:25.17 | Bibendus | it seems not :( |
| 02:25.18 | RodOfNOD | looks like the first really good patch |
| 02:25.43 | progammer_ | Good lord i need this |
| 02:25.44 | progammer_ | -- Added an option to permanently save all replays. Checking this option will mark all unsaved replays as being saved. |
| 02:25.59 | Bibendus | tomorrow i should prepare my DK video |
| 02:26.15 | Bibendus | for progammer happiness |
| 02:26.16 | Bibendus | : |
| 02:26.17 | Bibendus | .D |
| 02:26.37 | Bibendus | night |
| 02:26.53 | JManV | when's a patch falling? |
| 02:27.22 | progammer_ | i like this |
| 02:27.24 | progammer_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.43 | JManV | i like that too |
| 02:27.43 | Dryeyece | nice |
| 02:27.54 | RodOfNOD | ihope they add center justification |
| 02:28.55 | nevjmac | lol |
| 02:29.01 | progammer_ | you define that |
| 02:29.02 | progammer_ | in the style |
| 02:29.05 | JManV | yeah |
| 02:29.21 | RodOfNOD | not currently progammer_ thats why i hope they add it :P |
| 02:29.27 | JManV | you can do center justifaction now, but you have to use a pre-defined style |
| 02:29.33 | RodOfNOD | show me how |
| 02:29.40 | RodOfNOD | i used the style called "centerjustification" |
| 02:29.41 | RodOfNOD | it did jack |
| 02:30.01 | JManV | you have to use a style that has center justification |
| 02:30.16 | JManV | someone dumped out the styles on sc2mapster |
| 02:30.22 | RodOfNOD | lol yes they did |
| 02:30.25 | Vail|homeWork | any one getting into the PTR yet? |
| 02:30.28 | RodOfNOD | but it doesnt help if u dont know which one u need |
| 02:30.31 | JManV | i got it to work |
| 02:30.37 | RodOfNOD | please show me how |
| 02:30.47 | RodOfNOD | i want to center justify REGULAR looking text |
| 02:30.47 | JManV | the pain in the ass was vertical centering |
| 02:31.08 | RodOfNOD | whats thedifference |
| 02:31.25 | RodOfNOD | i have 3 lines that i want to center vertically |
| 02:31.25 | JManV | centering up and down instead of left to right |
| 02:31.32 | JManV | oh, that's a pain |
| 02:31.43 | JManV | i ended up doing it with calculations |
| 02:31.44 | RodOfNOD | well if we had center justification |
| 02:31.46 | RodOfNOD | i wouldnthave to |
| 02:31.50 | JManV | since you know how tall the line will be |
| 02:31.51 | RodOfNOD | yes i know i can do it with calcs |
| 02:32.11 | RodOfNOD | i have avoided writing the code in hopes blizzard fixed it |
| 02:32.13 | JManV | your talking about vertical, nto horizontal, aren't you? |
| 02:32.31 | JManV | i actually got it working vertical, but then i added color and it stopped working |
| 02:32.32 | RodOfNOD | imtalkingabout the life shield energy #s |
| 02:32.35 | JManV | so i had to do the calc |
| 02:32.53 | JManV | let me see if i can find my map example |
| 02:33.02 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/mercs.JPG |
| 02:33.08 | RodOfNOD | like that below the wireframe |
| 02:33.28 | Catalisk | apparently the channels are already bugged |
| 02:33.31 | Catalisk | lol |
| 02:33.33 | JManV | ok, that's horizontal |
| 02:33.45 | RodOfNOD | yep it is |
| 02:33.52 | RodOfNOD | had no luck with it |
| 02:34.03 | nevjmac | yea don't expect them to be perfect catalisk |
| 02:34.04 | JManV | horizontal you can't really do with calcs, because you don't know how long the line will be |
| 02:34.15 | nevjmac | everything takes time to perfect |
| 02:34.16 | RodOfNOD | surei can |
| 02:34.22 | Catalisk | yeah I know, it's just funny that they posted it in the known issues thread |
| 02:34.23 | RodOfNOD | i can make code to center that |
| 02:34.31 | Catalisk | i hope it's not too prevalent |
| 02:34.35 | RodOfNOD | bassed on that i can determine the exact width of 0s and the / char |
| 02:34.38 | RodOfNOD | and then move the box over |
| 02:34.40 | Catalisk | the issues they talked about looked pretty bad |
| 02:34.48 | RodOfNOD | but i was hoping to avoid that |
| 02:35.01 | JManV | you don't need to do that |
| 02:35.12 | JManV | but you need to find a style that centers horizontally |
| 02:35.13 | RodOfNOD | well please enlightenme |
| 02:35.26 | RodOfNOD | well i want that exact font cus thats what the game uses |
| 02:35.26 | JManV | i'm looking for a sample i did in a map |
| 02:35.29 | RodOfNOD | k ty |
| 02:36.08 | JManV | damn, i think i lost it |
| 02:36.19 | JManV | i needed that too cuz i got color and style to work together |
| 02:37.02 | Mischgasm | oshi, chat channels now? I'm a little behind haha |
| 02:37.29 | JManV | hmmm |
| 02:37.41 | RodOfNOD | well <s val="CenterJustified"><c val="C452E0"> didnt work |
| 02:39.17 | JManV | do you know where the sc2style dump is? |
| 02:39.50 | RodOfNOD | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/2017-misc-text-styles-75-done/ |
| 02:39.56 | RodOfNOD | this is the one i usuallylook at |
| 02:40.16 | progammer_ | done reading the note |
| 02:40.25 | progammer_ | nothing big except the UI layout |
| 02:40.28 | LordAbyss | so i had an amazing game with only 39 apm |
| 02:40.29 | LordAbyss | lol |
| 02:40.41 | RodOfNOD | lots of good bug fixes progammer_ |
| 02:40.56 | progammer_ | bug fixes is not new thing |
| 02:41.03 | RodOfNOD | hehe i think they are :> |
| 02:41.07 | JManV | i'm looking for the XML dump |
| 02:41.15 | RodOfNOD | dialog stuff is new |
| 02:41.21 | progammer_ | is the mouse moved events the thing they said about mouse position ? |
| 02:41.33 | progammer_ | guess it is |
| 02:41.39 | RodOfNOD | idk ididnt see that |
| 02:41.51 | RodOfNOD | cuz i dont care about that hehe |
| 02:42.13 | JManV | observer cost decrease? |
| 02:42.34 | nevjmac | there was stuff for mouse movement in there |
| 02:42.42 | nevjmac | there is an event for mouse movement |
| 02:42.55 | progammer_ | mouse moved events |
| 02:43.02 | JManV | triggering on mouse move has got to lag like what |
| 02:43.10 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:43.13 | RodOfNOD | i think that is huge |
| 02:44.29 | RodOfNOD | wish they would add proper water pathing :P |
| 02:44.44 | Vail|homeWork | maybe in HOTS.. |
| 02:44.45 | A1win | Mouse clicks and highlights are now allowed while in relative camera mode. <- that's cool for FPS/TPS maps ;p |
| 02:44.53 | A1win | no more weird tracelining to target untis |
| 02:44.55 | A1win | *units |
| 02:45.20 | progammer_ | ok reading this PTR faq get me confused |
| 02:45.39 | progammer_ | if there's only 1 PTR exe file how the hell do I use editor with PTR |
| 02:45.46 | RodOfNOD | u dont |
| 02:45.56 | RodOfNOD | it says u cant in other posts i think |
| 02:45.59 | RodOfNOD | no ums maps |
| 02:46.05 | JManV | hmmm... having trouble finding it nod |
| 02:46.07 | nevjmac | we won't get access to new editor features till patch |
| 02:46.09 | JManV | someone dumped the sc2style as xml |
| 02:46.17 | progammer_ | nvm |
| 02:46.21 | JManV | in that, you can see what styles have horizontal centering |
| 02:47.16 | Vail|homeWork | any one want to help test my er Improved ( hope they buy that) map? |
| 02:47.35 | Vail|homeWork | its just two player |
| 02:48.25 | JManV | mouse move tigger would be awesome for a top-down shooter |
| 02:48.33 | JManV | but i still think it will hella lag |
| 02:48.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mischgasm (ad117cef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.17.124.239) |
| 02:48.57 | JManV | wish you could just move a unit based on mouse move rather than clicking |
| 02:49.20 | Mischgasm | I just looked in my sc2 directory for the ptr patch and it's not there |
| 02:49.27 | Mischgasm | anybody know how to join ptr? |
| 02:49.37 | RodOfNOD | i got it JManV |
| 02:49.46 | JManV | yeah? |
| 02:49.53 | Vail|homeWork | they say selected accounts have to have been registered before 11/11/10 |
| 02:49.57 | RodOfNOD | its just a damn file that was in the system all this time |
| 02:50.06 | Mischgasm | ahh |
| 02:50.07 | Mischgasm | alright then |
| 02:50.09 | Mischgasm | thanks |
| 02:50.24 | JManV | ah |
| 02:50.27 | progammer_ | Mischgasm: read their faq |
| 02:50.36 | JManV | did you get centering working? |
| 02:50.41 | progammer_ | there's no editor PTR though |
| 02:50.44 | progammer_ | sad :( |
| 02:50.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss1 (~Christoph@uawifi-nat-210-24.arizona.edu) |
| 02:50.56 | *** part/#sc2mapster LordAbyss1 (~Christoph@uawifi-nat-210-24.arizona.edu) |
| 02:50.57 | RodOfNOD | <Style name="Kicker_Energy" template="BulletTemplate" height="34" vjustify="Top" hjustify="Center" textcolor="4040ff"/> untested but i think thats it |
| 02:50.59 | Vail|homeWork | i can wait for patch .. |
| 02:51.12 | JManV | oooo... repairing scv threat priority... awesome |
| 02:51.29 | RodOfNOD | awesome if ur not a terranplayer |
| 02:52.02 | progammer_ | i suddenly have the urges to change my bnet name to shrodinger's cat |
| 02:52.09 | progammer_ | what's the char limit on bnet ? |
| 02:52.18 | JManV | well, it's awesome because of planetary fortresses |
| 02:52.23 | JManV | they were rediculous |
| 02:52.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster grim001 (~chatzilla@c-69-246-170-145.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 02:52.43 | JManV | just wrap them with scvs and kill a large army |
| 02:53.20 | JManV | and the army basically does no damage whatsoever |
| 02:53.28 | JManV | that's the rediculous part |
| 02:53.40 | progammer_ | ridonculous |
| 02:54.03 | JManV | not that i play that often ;) |
| 02:54.24 | A1win | now my zerglings also gain movement speed and attack speed based on how much rage the character has =x |
| 02:54.44 | JManV | map locale management? |
| 02:54.48 | RodOfNOD | hmm JManV doesnt appear to work |
| 02:54.49 | RodOfNOD | still |
| 02:55.02 | RodOfNOD | below that it talks about local languages JManV |
| 02:55.14 | JManV | ah |
| 02:55.22 | progammer_ | JManV: you can translate your map and put it there |
| 02:55.23 | JManV | hmmm... i swear i got it working |
| 02:55.34 | RodOfNOD | well if u find it.... |
| 02:55.41 | progammer_ | without the need of 3rd party |
| 02:55.52 | A1win | which means my haste talent will also improve zerglings, making it cool in combination with the "zergling talent" which increases the number of zerglings, their damage, and make them generate rage for you when they attack... |
| 02:56.26 | JManV | rod: i believe i actually lost the code due to an editor crash or something |
| 02:56.37 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 02:56.55 | A1win | oh yeah I got to make haste also decrease spell cooldowns... |
| 02:57.19 | JManV | dialog panels sound cool |
| 02:57.20 | RodOfNOD | but that would mean u cant doit and that is unacceptable JManV :P |
| 02:57.56 | JManV | can you apply the style another way rod |
| 02:57.59 | JManV | ? |
| 02:58.08 | RodOfNOD | i cant think of a way |
| 02:58.35 | JManV | let me look at something |
| 02:58.54 | JManV | is it a dialog item? |
| 02:59.14 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 02:59.27 | RodOfNOD | just a label |
| 02:59.27 | JManV | are you using a color inside of the style? |
| 02:59.31 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 02:59.38 | RodOfNOD | but i havent gotten it to work either way |
| 02:59.43 | JManV | hmmm |
| 02:59.57 | JManV | it's a dialog label, right? |
| 03:00.32 | *** join/#sc2mapster oldschool (44e448e1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.228.72.225) |
| 03:00.40 | JManV | i think i did "text with color" for mine, but i'm not sure... and you say it doesn't matter |
| 03:00.58 | oldschool | anyone inviting for map night? |
| 03:01.01 | JManV | yeah, i'm pretty sure i did it in an <s> tag |
| 03:01.03 | RodOfNOD | idk how i do it |
| 03:01.09 | RodOfNOD | yea thats what im doing |
| 03:01.15 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 03:01.44 | A1win | is the label wide enough that you'd notice the difference if the alignment changed? ;p |
| 03:01.44 | progammer | Sixen: when you're on PTR set up mapster channels asap |
| 03:01.50 | JManV | i'm at a loss rod |
| 03:01.56 | *** join/#sc2mapster allenmelon (~allenmelo@97-93-62-207.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 03:01.58 | progammer | patching is now live |
| 03:02.12 | JManV | w00t |
| 03:02.13 | RodOfNOD | its patching right now? |
| 03:02.24 | RodOfNOD | i so am not gonna risk my shit till its working lol |
| 03:02.29 | JManV | i'm all about toss finally getting some buffs |
| 03:02.32 | RodOfNOD | last time u said it was up progammer i was down for hours lol |
| 03:02.34 | nevjmac | my patch says 1.1.3 |
| 03:02.49 | JManV | mine too |
| 03:02.50 | progammer | it is patching for me |
| 03:02.54 | nevjmac | I am not patching 1.2? |
| 03:02.58 | progammer | and what it does is download you the PTR exe file |
| 03:03.08 | progammer | in which you run to patch again |
| 03:03.11 | Bounty | So |
| 03:03.17 | Bounty | You cant play custom maps on PTR |
| 03:03.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:03.19 | RodOfNOD | is this a patch for 1.2 or for ptr? |
| 03:03.20 | Bounty | so that sucks |
| 03:03.23 | progammer | yeah you cant |
| 03:03.29 | progammer | they need to test balance the most though |
| 03:03.32 | JManV | what is ptr? |
| 03:03.42 | nevjmac | public test realm |
| 03:03.42 | progammer | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1334972#c-1208181035 |
| 03:03.43 | RodOfNOD | its a reference to a variable hehe |
| 03:05.12 | oldschool | anyone inviting for sc2 mapster mapnight? |
| 03:06.11 | progammer | not sure because queengambit is supposed to host this |
| 03:06.14 | A1win | this isn't even an actual patch, it just downloads the exe you can start to download the PTR stuff (like someone already said) |
| 03:06.22 | progammer | and we're so psyched for patch 1.2 |
| 03:06.31 | onetwo | i was trying to figure out who queengambit is on IRC |
| 03:06.35 | onetwo | maybe diff alias? |
| 03:07.00 | nevjmac | if she was on IRC I'm sure she would have said hello by now |
| 03:07.07 | oldschool | maybe he's late? |
| 03:07.08 | progammer | is he online on forum ? |
| 03:07.08 | nevjmac | she/he |
| 03:07.30 | nevjmac | 3 days ago |
| 03:07.30 | progammer | 7 PST should be now ? |
| 03:07.31 | nevjmac | lol |
| 03:07.37 | nevjmac | he hasn't been online in 3 days |
| 03:08.03 | progammer | who have time can host this instead |
| 03:08.03 | oldschool | I have a map that i made that I hope that we can play and test |
| 03:08.23 | progammer | i'm getting the PTR |
| 03:08.47 | onetwo | what we should do (and i cant commit to running it) is gather a maplist of maps that need to be tested on the following friday |
| 03:08.50 | onetwo | set up time slots |
| 03:08.52 | onetwo | everyone joins bnet at 7 |
| 03:08.56 | onetwo | go in 2 parties or w/e |
| 03:09.00 | onetwo | and one after another play each map |
| 03:09.01 | onetwo | 2-3 times |
| 03:09.15 | onetwo | combine play and testing |
| 03:09.26 | Vail|homeWork | hmm |
| 03:09.30 | onetwo | cause right now its not clear what youre going to play |
| 03:09.31 | progammer | if we have chat channels it would be easier |
| 03:09.33 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:09.35 | onetwo | i agree |
| 03:09.38 | onetwo | thx blizz! |
| 03:09.42 | nevjmac | chat channels is going to save the day lol |
| 03:09.48 | progammer | the Savior |
| 03:09.51 | progammer | no pun inteneded |
| 03:10.06 | progammer | damn the patcher refuse to update |
| 03:10.08 | Vail|homeWork | they will start calling it Chatmas |
| 03:10.14 | onetwo | then if they make a bnet program like AOL or MSN |
| 03:10.17 | onetwo | we dont even need IRC |
| 03:10.25 | onetwo | if we can be on chat channels on bnet through a client or web thing |
| 03:10.31 | progammer | well the thing is even battlnet lags for me |
| 03:10.32 | Catalisk | so were we going to a custom map night thing |
| 03:10.38 | progammer | chatting inside the game is even less laggy |
| 03:10.43 | Catalisk | lol |
| 03:10.53 | doite | HN all |
| 03:10.58 | doite | GN* all |
| 03:10.59 | Catalisk | finished at 0% |
| 03:11.00 | doite | GL HF |
| 03:11.01 | Catalisk | nice |
| 03:11.14 | RodOfNOD | am i correct no clans yet? ie no way to hold onto a channel? |
| 03:11.21 | nevjmac | problem with that is onetwo |
| 03:11.28 | nevjmac | NA and EU won't work together will it |
| 03:11.37 | oldschool | well my map is 3on3. do u guys want me to invite and then hopefully queen can come later? |
| 03:11.44 | onetwo | yeah true nevj |
| 03:11.48 | onetwo | we need a global community >< |
| 03:11.51 | progammer | clans would be later |
| 03:12.07 | progammer | beside do you reall want mapster clans |
| 03:13.16 | Catalisk | ok here we go |
| 03:13.29 | Catalisk | download is going ot take like 10 minutes |
| 03:13.30 | Catalisk | lol |
| 03:13.42 | onetwo | North american Sc2 is patching |
| 03:13.43 | onetwo | now |
| 03:14.14 | nevjmac | hmmm mine isn't :/ |
| 03:14.25 | onetwo | now mine exited |
| 03:14.26 | onetwo | randomly |
| 03:14.34 | onetwo | oh |
| 03:14.35 | onetwo | it came back now |
| 03:14.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:15.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@ip68-6-101-243.sb.sd.cox.net) |
| 03:15.45 | Vesuvius | that happened to me too |
| 03:15.45 | onetwo | now starting PTR sc2.exe |
| 03:15.48 | onetwo | downloading 1.2 |
| 03:16.05 | Dryeyece | Anyone know about making a mpa into a mod? can I just save as .sc2mod and thats it? |
| 03:16.07 | Vesuvius | 30% |
| 03:16.09 | Vesuvius | my net sucks |
| 03:16.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer_ (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 03:16.22 | progammer_ | 0.0 KB/s damn it |
| 03:16.25 | Catalisk | hah |
| 03:16.53 | nevjmac | dryeyece there is a tutorial on it bud |
| 03:17.00 | Dryeyece | is there |
| 03:17.01 | Dryeyece | ty |
| 03:17.16 | nevjmac | I beleive there is |
| 03:17.29 | nevjmac | if you search |
| 03:17.34 | nevjmac | tutorial creating mod file |
| 03:17.48 | progammer_ | ok got the PTR file |
| 03:18.33 | Dryeyece | not finding it |
| 03:18.52 | progammer_ | patch your orginal sc2 |
| 03:18.54 | progammer_ | then exit |
| 03:18.57 | Bounty | lol pathetic |
| 03:19.00 | Bounty | chat channels |
| 03:19.04 | Bounty | are just chat windows |
| 03:19.07 | Bounty | like before |
| 03:19.12 | Catalisk | with more people? |
| 03:19.15 | progammer_ | what more do you ask for ? |
| 03:19.16 | Bounty | yep |
| 03:19.20 | Bounty | im just sayin |
| 03:19.24 | Bounty | NO WAY it took this long to do this |
| 03:19.27 | Bounty | with how basic this is |
| 03:19.27 | Catalisk | well as long as they're easy to access |
| 03:19.29 | Catalisk | lol |
| 03:19.39 | Bounty | and you've been able to do this since beta |
| 03:19.40 | Catalisk | they probably had some underpaid intern do it |
| 03:19.42 | Catalisk | :P |
| 03:19.45 | Bounty | you could just invite ur FL to a chat |
| 03:19.47 | Bounty | and get the same thing |
| 03:19.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:19.50 | Catalisk | err by underpaid |
| 03:19.52 | nevjmac | dryeeyce this link here: |
| 03:19.53 | Catalisk | i mean unpaid |
| 03:20.05 | nevjmac | forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/15317 |
| 03:20.38 | onetwo | on PTR, join chat channel sc2mapster |
| 03:20.54 | onetwo | FYi on PTR, i think user nicknames are unique |
| 03:20.55 | onetwo | no char ID |
| 03:21.03 | Bounty | its funny |
| 03:21.06 | Bounty | the first thing im thinking |
| 03:21.11 | Bounty | is if someone made a channel "sex" yet |
| 03:21.50 | Bounty | thats where the entertainment is |
| 03:21.50 | JManV | well, since sc2 players are maybe 1% female... why? |
| 03:22.02 | Bounty | it was a HUGE troll channel |
| 03:22.06 | Bounty | back in the old bnet |
| 03:22.07 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:22.23 | JManV | the text filter probably prohibits that |
| 03:22.31 | onetwo | nvm |
| 03:22.32 | Vail|homeWork | i hate my slow internet nearly a half hour in and the thing is only at 29 % |
| 03:22.33 | onetwo | char IDs on PTR |
| 03:22.35 | onetwo | damnit |
| 03:22.49 | progammer_ | onetwo: anyone on there yet ? |
| 03:22.54 | progammer_ | does friend list kept ? |
| 03:23.02 | Bounty | nope |
| 03:23.06 | Bounty | you gotta make a new chr and everything |
| 03:23.12 | progammer_ | onetwo: make a mapster channels |
| 03:23.17 | onetwo | only about 50-60 people on chat channels in PTR |
| 03:23.18 | Bounty | he did |
| 03:23.18 | onetwo | total |
| 03:23.20 | Bounty | just me and him in it |
| 03:23.20 | progammer_ | then we can join and add |
| 03:23.21 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:23.27 | onetwo | can only be in one public channel at a time |
| 03:23.37 | progammer_ | lol seriously ? |
| 03:23.40 | onetwo | public channel includes like looking for custom game |
| 03:23.40 | onetwo | etc |
| 03:23.44 | onetwo | but you can be in your private ones |
| 03:23.46 | onetwo | as much as you want |
| 03:23.48 | onetwo | like sc2mapster |
| 03:24.00 | RodOfNOD | istheir clan support? |
| 03:24.12 | Catalisk | bounty it's not that bad |
| 03:24.17 | Catalisk | it actually does what it's supposed to |
| 03:24.17 | Catalisk | lol |
| 03:24.21 | Bounty | im not complaining |
| 03:24.23 | Bounty | im just saying |
| 03:24.28 | Bounty | you need to look at it a differant way |
| 03:24.32 | Bounty | The way i see it is |
| 03:24.34 | onetwo | its pretty cool |
| 03:24.35 | onetwo | i like it |
| 03:24.37 | onetwo | definitely |
| 03:24.39 | Bounty | This should not have taken this long |
| 03:24.40 | onetwo | for getting my maps played |
| 03:24.41 | onetwo | this will be awesome |
| 03:24.42 | Bounty | At all |
| 03:24.58 | Bounty | Yeah i like it and all but with how it is there is no way it should have taken this long |
| 03:25.01 | RodOfNOD | onetwo is their clan support? |
| 03:25.07 | onetwo | no |
| 03:25.11 | onetwo | but its kind of like a clan |
| 03:25.14 | onetwo | since we can have our own channel |
| 03:25.17 | onetwo | channels are very basic |
| 03:25.20 | onetwo | no channel leader |
| 03:25.20 | onetwo | etc |
| 03:25.24 | onetwo | jjust join it and thats it |
| 03:25.26 | onetwo | type in w/e you want |
| 03:25.29 | onetwo | i like its simplicity |
| 03:25.30 | RodOfNOD | yes but u cant secure it right? |
| 03:25.34 | onetwo | dont think so |
| 03:25.36 | Bounty | Its the chat channel system that was already in the same |
| 03:25.40 | Bounty | only you dont have to invite ppl on ur FL |
| 03:25.42 | Bounty | thats it |
| 03:25.44 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:27.01 | onetwo | i think its great for now |
| 03:27.04 | onetwo | can actually organize games |
| 03:27.06 | onetwo | without parties |
| 03:27.10 | onetwo | eg on map night |
| 03:27.11 | onetwo | we can just be like |
| 03:27.17 | onetwo | see you on channel XXXXXXXXXXXXX at 7pm |
| 03:27.20 | onetwo | whoevers there |
| 03:27.21 | onetwo | goes |
| 03:27.41 | RodOfNOD | but of course without clans sc and wc3 dont make it |
| 03:28.13 | Vail|homeWork | damn only 49% |
| 03:28.42 | progammer_ | why my internet is kidding me with 0.0 KB/s so often |
| 03:28.46 | RodOfNOD | so onetwo the patch 1.2 its live? |
| 03:28.54 | RodOfNOD | haveu tried the editor? |
| 03:29.00 | Bounty | good idea Rod |
| 03:29.04 | Bounty | i wanna test the mouse tracking |
| 03:29.05 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:29.10 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 03:29.16 | RodOfNOD | i just want to make sure it works hehe |
| 03:29.20 | RodOfNOD | as in u can edit shit hehe |
| 03:29.31 | onetwo | patch 1.2 only exists like this: you start sc2 standard, you DL a mini patch which gives you a file StarCraft II Public Test.exe in your sc2 directory |
| 03:29.32 | progammer_ | the editor is not in PTR |
| 03:29.36 | onetwo | you run taht and that exe patches to 1.2 |
| 03:29.43 | RodOfNOD | ic |
| 03:29.44 | onetwo | and then you play sc2 through that to go on ptr |
| 03:29.48 | RodOfNOD | so no editor changes |
| 03:29.49 | progammer_ | so its almost impossible to test |
| 03:29.51 | onetwo | the cool thing is maybe we're worldwide |
| 03:29.52 | onetwo | EU and US |
| 03:29.54 | onetwo | on one PTR |
| 03:29.54 | progammer_ | but there is a workaround |
| 03:29.56 | onetwo | that would be cool! |
| 03:30.03 | progammer_ | no there's only NA PTR |
| 03:30.04 | onetwo | no editor..? |
| 03:30.06 | onetwo | oh ok |
| 03:30.12 | Bounty | well thats gay |
| 03:30.15 | Bounty | cant play with new editor |
| 03:30.18 | RodOfNOD | very |
| 03:30.23 | progammer_ | onetwo: actually try drag map on the PTR exe file to see if it load |
| 03:30.23 | RodOfNOD | does ureditor still work? |
| 03:30.28 | Bounty | so why not just release the editor changes by themselves? |
| 03:30.33 | Bounty | if we cant test them |
| 03:30.37 | Bounty | clearly they must be ready |
| 03:30.49 | progammer_ | Bounty: because its part of the patch, and they dont need public test for it |
| 03:30.56 | Bounty | i dont care! |
| 03:30.58 | Bounty | :) |
| 03:31.02 | Bounty | i wanna see mouse tracking |
| 03:31.04 | progammer_ | then gtfo |
| 03:31.13 | progammer_ | anyone tried drag map onto the PTR exe file ? |
| 03:31.21 | onetwo | You: why 1v1 when you can be in this chat channel using chat channel in a chat channel The number of messages that can be sent to this channel is limited. Please wait to send another message. |
| 03:31.22 | onetwo | LOL |
| 03:31.27 | RodOfNOD | imwith bounty FUCK EM!!! hehe |
| 03:31.35 | Bounty | >< |
| 03:31.50 | progammer_ | onetwo: anyone tried drag map onto the PTR exe file ? |
| 03:31.59 | RodOfNOD | i havent have u? |
| 03:32.28 | onetwo | nope |
| 03:32.29 | onetwo | you try |
| 03:32.34 | Bounty | yeah i cant type anything |
| 03:32.34 | onetwo | im talking to people in chat channels in realtime HD |
| 03:32.37 | progammer_ | not load ? |
| 03:32.37 | Bounty | fucking |
| 03:32.41 | Bounty | The number of messages that can be sent to this channel is limited. Please wait to send another message. |
| 03:32.43 | progammer_ | i'm waiting for this turtle patcher |
| 03:32.46 | Bounty | that shit is annoying |
| 03:32.56 | progammer_ | spam preventation |
| 03:33.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mud (4c64894d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.100.137.77) |
| 03:33.05 | onetwo | im trying to get into master league on PTR |
| 03:33.06 | onetwo | :D |
| 03:33.22 | progammer_ | luls i want to see the icon |
| 03:33.26 | onetwo | my dreams of becoming a korean star |
| 03:33.28 | onetwo | may come true |
| 03:33.33 | Bounty | onetwo |
| 03:33.40 | Bounty | Added in-game chat bar command to whisper to other players. Using the /w command will pop up an auto-complete list which includes: friends, party members, chat channels, and other players within your current game. |
| 03:33.43 | Bounty | its broken |
| 03:34.07 | progammer_ | its ingame |
| 03:34.07 | progammer_ | not in meny |
| 03:34.07 | progammer_ | menu |
| 03:34.08 | onetwo | oh |
| 03:34.28 | Bounty | then how am i supposed to cyber |
| 03:34.30 | Bounty | wtf |
| 03:35.47 | Guest98264 | anyone willing to test a map with me? |
| 03:36.38 | progammer_ | onetwo: screenshots me the super ultra mega heavy graphics |
| 03:36.43 | Bounty | yo |
| 03:36.44 | Bounty | YO |
| 03:36.50 | Bounty | go to the join game feature |
| 03:36.55 | Bounty | it doesnt say games per hour anymore |
| 03:36.57 | Bounty | it says |
| 03:37.04 | Bounty | 1 hour Played |
| 03:37.07 | Bounty | 1 Minute Played |
| 03:37.07 | progammer_ | screenshots nao ! |
| 03:37.22 | Bounty | why? log in and see it for urself |
| 03:37.24 | Bounty | lazy prick |
| 03:37.27 | Bounty | =P |
| 03:37.38 | progammer_ | my pathcer got stuck |
| 03:37.39 | progammer_ | :( |
| 03:37.44 | Bounty | k |
| 03:37.44 | Bounty | sec |
| 03:38.11 | Catalisk | lol |
| 03:38.16 | Catalisk | yeah it says the time played |
| 03:38.23 | Catalisk | i guess that evens the playing field for epic maps |
| 03:38.29 | onetwo | what does that mean? |
| 03:38.29 | Catalisk | and kills boosting |
| 03:38.32 | onetwo | Bounty |
| 03:38.40 | Bounty | hold on im uploading a SS |
| 03:38.51 | Catalisk | one would assume it means the total time the game has been played by people |
| 03:39.13 | Bounty | http://tinypic.com/r/e8jote/7 |
| 03:39.15 | Bounty | there u go |
| 03:39.35 | Bounty | the map above it has an hour played |
| 03:39.50 | Bounty | Call me crazy |
| 03:40.00 | Bounty | But i THINK this is that unannounced thing they said |
| 03:40.02 | Bounty | the "surprise" |
| 03:40.10 | RodOfNOD | what do u mean? |
| 03:40.14 | Bounty | and this wont help boosting |
| 03:40.18 | Bounty | because now |
| 03:40.21 | Bounty | in theory of course |
| 03:40.25 | Bounty | i could just host my map and leave it running all night |
| 03:40.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:40.49 | onetwo | crap lol :/ |
| 03:40.52 | onetwo | maybe its time per game? |
| 03:40.54 | Bounty | Blizzard said that one of the features in the new patch has not be announced and would be a surprise |
| 03:41.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 03:41.09 | Catalisk | bounty that wont put a dent in compared to real popular maps |
| 03:41.10 | Bounty | Only one way to find out |
| 03:41.19 | Bounty | Host a map |
| 03:41.23 | Bounty | that isnt one of those 3 |
| 03:41.25 | Bounty | and see what hapens |
| 03:41.27 | RodOfNOD | bounty have u opened the editor and it works? |
| 03:41.32 | Bounty | yeah it works |
| 03:41.34 | onetwo | Bounty |
| 03:41.34 | Bounty | but its not the new editor |
| 03:41.36 | RodOfNOD | k ty |
| 03:41.36 | onetwo | lets both host diff maps |
| 03:41.38 | RodOfNOD | i undersand |
| 03:41.40 | Bounty | ok |
| 03:41.43 | onetwo | Bounty you pick the bottom most map |
| 03:41.45 | onetwo | in melee list |
| 03:41.47 | onetwo | ill pick 2nd bottom |
| 03:41.52 | Bounty | kk |
| 03:42.29 | Bounty | Scrap Station it is lol |
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| 03:43.19 | onetwo | k i hosted Toxic Slums |
| 03:43.21 | onetwo | like a 12 player map |
| 03:43.37 | onetwo | by myself |
| 03:43.38 | onetwo | made it public |
| 03:43.42 | onetwo | gonna wait 1 minute only |
| 03:44.14 | Bounty | its already on the list |
| 03:44.15 | Bounty | as one minute |
| 03:44.16 | Bounty | dont leave |
| 03:44.20 | Bounty | i wanna see if it goes to two |
| 03:44.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer_ (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 03:44.53 | Bounty | when i hosted scrap station it bumped it from 1 minute to two minutes |
| 03:45.04 | Bounty | so i think they might be fucking with us |
| 03:45.13 | Bounty | and its still the same fuckign system just worded differantly |
| 03:45.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:45.25 | Bounty | no wait |
| 03:45.30 | Bounty | Toxic Slums is at 9 minutes |
| 03:45.33 | onetwo | okay weirdly enough |
| 03:45.38 | onetwo | i played toxic slums for 1-2 mins |
| 03:45.38 | onetwo | tops |
| 03:45.40 | onetwo | and its at 9 |
| 03:45.42 | onetwo | wtf? |
| 03:45.45 | Bounty | must be other people |
| 03:45.45 | onetwo | people playing it? |
| 03:45.46 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:45.55 | onetwo | i guess i just proved that people play w/e they see |
| 03:45.56 | onetwo | on the pop list |
| 03:46.00 | onetwo | LOL im making toxic slums famous |
| 03:46.01 | Bounty | yep |
| 03:46.04 | onetwo | the least played ugliest map |
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| 03:46.24 | Phaos1 | rawr |
| 03:46.33 | Bounty | well there is no way to test this atm |
| 03:46.37 | Bounty | until the list fills |
| 03:47.27 | onetwo | hmm |
| 03:47.31 | onetwo | chat channels organize people that are ingame |
| 03:47.33 | onetwo | at the top |
| 03:47.37 | onetwo | and people who arent |
| 03:47.39 | onetwo | at the bottom of the list |
| 03:47.40 | onetwo | thats odd |
| 03:47.52 | Phaos1 | whats this ? |
| 03:47.53 | allenmelon | damm.. i really suck... |
| 03:47.56 | Bounty | Can you chat in chat channels in game? |
| 03:48.07 | Bounty | That would be cool |
| 03:48.10 | onetwo | probably? |
| 03:48.14 | allenmelon | cant even beat very hard ai |
| 03:48.21 | Phaos1 | oh holy shit patch is out! |
| 03:48.23 | Phaos1 | what ?! |
| 03:48.31 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:48.32 | onetwo | PTR only |
| 03:48.38 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dryeyece (4252090f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.82.9.15) |
| 03:48.39 | onetwo | test realm |
| 03:48.42 | onetwo | hey Bounty |
| 03:48.45 | onetwo | you can switch between instances |
| 03:48.47 | onetwo | of achat channel |
| 03:48.50 | Phaos1 | but it's auto updating me anyway... |
| 03:48.50 | onetwo | using top left button |
| 03:48.51 | progammer_ | fucks i probably wont get this patch till tomorrow.. |
| 03:48.56 | onetwo | Phaos |
| 03:49.10 | Bounty | what top left button |
| 03:49.11 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:49.18 | Phaos1 | yes ? |
| 03:49.24 | onetwo | http://www.sc2mapster.com/ Phaos |
| 03:49.27 | onetwo | first news item |
| 03:49.28 | onetwo | thats how you run it |
| 03:49.33 | onetwo | on a chat channel Bounty |
| 03:49.35 | onetwo | theres an arrow |
| 03:49.38 | onetwo | brings up a list for public channels |
| 03:49.41 | onetwo | of instances |
| 03:49.43 | Phaos1 | ooooh I was in beta thats why |
| 03:49.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (~skizot@207-214.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 03:49.50 | Bounty | i dont see it |
| 03:50.15 | onetwo | im in looking for custom games |
| 03:50.17 | onetwo | chat channel |
| 03:50.57 | Bounty | fuck man |
| 03:51.04 | Bounty | they need to increase that spam filter thing |
| 03:51.12 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:51.12 | Bounty | its to short |
| 03:51.13 | onetwo | i cant type |
| 03:51.40 | Phaos1 | 3 pages of editor goodness :O |
| 03:52.02 | progammer_ | actually its 3 page of bugs |
| 03:52.14 | onetwo | fuck and you lose everything you typed |
| 03:53.16 | Bounty | progammer |
| 03:53.22 | Bounty | you should adjust the picture on the front page |
| 03:53.24 | Bounty | its alittle to wide |
| 03:53.43 | progammer_ | i put it in quote tag |
| 03:53.43 | progammer_ | autor resize |
| 03:54.16 | allenmelon | ptr? |
| 03:54.26 | Bounty | it just shows half of the picture on my screen lol |
| 03:54.58 | progammer_ | f5 it |
| 03:55.32 | Bounty | same thing >< |
| 03:55.34 | Bounty | maybe its just me |
| 03:56.07 | Phaos1 | - Remove Inventory Item, used to instantly remove a requested item from an inventory. |
| 03:56.07 | Phaos1 | YUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
| 03:57.37 | onetwo | fucking spam filter |
| 03:57.44 | onetwo | i said things like 3 secs apart |
| 03:57.52 | onetwo | even in private channel it blocks spam |
| 03:58.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:58.22 | Bounty | i love how Blizz just keeps making stupid decisions |
| 03:58.29 | Bounty | cracks me up |
| 03:58.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 03:58.59 | onetwo | itll be interesting to see how SOTIS climbs now |
| 03:59.00 | onetwo | its a longer map |
| 03:59.03 | onetwo | with time based system |
| 03:59.08 | onetwo | it might soar way past |
| 03:59.11 | onetwo | the 4 player short maps |
| 03:59.25 | Bounty | The system just completely shifted imo |
| 03:59.29 | Bounty | If you have a 14 player 2 hour game |
| 03:59.32 | Bounty | your going to the top |
| 03:59.33 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:00.13 | onetwo | wait |
| 04:00.16 | onetwo | would player count affect it |
| 04:00.23 | onetwo | still |
| 04:00.28 | Bounty | It has to |
| 04:00.32 | onetwo | 4 games of (2 player x 2 hours) |
| 04:00.33 | Bounty | How else could some of those maps have hours played? |
| 04:00.36 | Bounty | It hasnt even been an hour |
| 04:00.41 | progammer | yep has to |
| 04:00.42 | onetwo | or 1 game of (8 players x 2 hours) |
| 04:00.54 | onetwo | like |
| 04:00.56 | onetwo | my question is |
| 04:01.02 | onetwo | would player count negatively or positively affect |
| 04:01.11 | Bounty | well lets do the math |
| 04:01.11 | onetwo | like before, less time but > 5 mins = WIN |
| 04:01.14 | onetwo | but now, more time = WIN |
| 04:01.16 | onetwo | or equal |
| 04:01.17 | onetwo | i mean |
| 04:01.21 | Bounty | a 4 player 5 minute map |
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| 04:01.35 | onetwo | will have 5 mins total after 5 mins |
| 04:01.38 | Bounty | thats 48 minutes per hour |
| 04:01.40 | onetwo | but a 2 player 5 minute map thats going twice |
| 04:01.44 | onetwo | will have 10 mins after 5 mins |
| 04:01.56 | Bounty | but |
| 04:02.00 | Bounty | a 14 player map |
| 04:02.05 | Bounty | will have 168 minutes per hour |
| 04:02.23 | onetwo | wait wait |
| 04:02.28 | progammer | still a single list is silly, need more filter/search |
| 04:02.30 | onetwo | i think its on a per game time basis |
| 04:02.33 | onetwo | not per player time basis |
| 04:02.33 | onetwo | ? |
| 04:02.43 | Bounty | no clue |
| 04:02.44 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:02.49 | progammer | check me on this max of 50 people per PUBLIC channel, upon which you spillover to a new channel - no idea as to the limit to a private channel - you are limited to one public channel at a time - hotkey editing interface is pretty nice - maximum sizes of a chat box are kinda wonky, see screenshots - you can't join a channel in a game, but you certainly can leave one |
| 04:02.51 | Bounty | would be nice if they fucking told us |
| 04:02.55 | onetwo | like... 9 players in one game playing for 1 hour == 1 player in one game playing for 1 hour? |
| 04:03.07 | onetwo | OR |
| 04:03.14 | onetwo | does the 9 player multiply it |
| 04:03.20 | Bounty | I would think so |
| 04:03.21 | Bounty | otherwise |
| 04:03.23 | Bounty | whats the point? |
| 04:03.25 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:03.38 | onetwo | well before it was neither time based nor player based |
| 04:03.40 | onetwo | now its time based |
| 04:03.54 | Bounty | Then i would think its per player time spent playing |
| 04:03.59 | Bounty | It has to be |
| 04:04.02 | Bounty | If its not |
| 04:04.02 | onetwo | i honestly am 50/50 about whether its time per game or time per player |
| 04:04.08 | Bounty | then all they did was change the wording |
| 04:04.12 | Bounty | and its still the same damn system |
| 04:04.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:04.17 | onetwo | well not really |
| 04:04.24 | onetwo | before, if your game was over 5 mins |
| 04:04.24 | progammer | finally i'm on |
| 04:04.25 | onetwo | it was the same |
| 04:04.29 | onetwo | as any game over 5 mins |
| 04:04.30 | onetwo | right? |
| 04:04.43 | Bounty | yeah 5 minutes in game meant +1 point |
| 04:04.45 | onetwo | yeah |
| 04:04.47 | Bounty | for every player |
| 04:04.47 | onetwo | so now though |
| 04:04.51 | onetwo | if a game ends after 5 mins |
| 04:04.53 | onetwo | it gets +5 points |
| 04:04.57 | onetwo | if a game ends after 25 mins |
| 04:04.59 | onetwo | +25 points |
| 04:05.04 | onetwo | in old system, 25 min game would only get +5 |
| 04:05.08 | onetwo | right? |
| 04:05.12 | Bounty | yeah |
| 04:05.15 | onetwo | err |
| 04:05.15 | *** join/#sc2mapster JManV (450e6aef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.14.106.239) |
| 04:05.15 | onetwo | +1 |
| 04:05.18 | onetwo | * |
| 04:05.27 | Bounty | honestly |
| 04:05.31 | Bounty | This should have been in the patch notes |
| 04:05.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:05.36 | Bounty | This is kind of a big deal |
| 04:05.39 | JManV | the pop? |
| 04:05.49 | Catalisk | yeah |
| 04:05.50 | Bounty | yeah |
| 04:05.51 | onetwo | yeah |
| 04:05.54 | onetwo | they seem to think it isnt |
| 04:05.57 | onetwo | its our entire lives |
| 04:06.01 | JManV | you can't really test that in the ptr, though, can you? |
| 04:06.03 | onetwo | not whether mutas can be fungaled |
| 04:06.07 | JManV | since there's no custom maps |
| 04:06.12 | onetwo | LOL TOXIC SLUMS number 1 most popular map |
| 04:06.15 | onetwo | ahahah bounty |
| 04:06.19 | onetwo | we can test with blizz maps |
| 04:06.19 | Catalisk | hey i care if you can fungal mutas |
| 04:06.30 | JManV | how do we know? |
| 04:06.30 | onetwo | melee was soooo last year |
| 04:06.31 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:06.45 | Bounty | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1207762361#1 |
| 04:06.47 | Bounty | There ya go |
| 04:06.53 | Bounty | bump that thread to high hell |
| 04:06.58 | progammer | i'm on bitches |
| 04:07.18 | Bounty | doesnt matter if ur on prog |
| 04:07.21 | Bounty | what are we gonna do |
| 04:07.24 | Bounty | chat? |
| 04:07.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:07.30 | Bounty | cant play custom maps so |
| 04:07.57 | Catalisk | chatty chat chat |
| 04:08.20 | progammer | ok seriously the interface does go smoother |
| 04:08.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster Phaos (~Rorax@118-93-90-101.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 04:08.24 | JManV | i'm not sure though, is that better? |
| 04:08.28 | progammer | less laggy |
| 04:08.36 | onetwo | sc2mapster chat channel |
| 04:08.45 | JManV | i guess it does seem a little better |
| 04:08.51 | JManV | it's still not really what's needed |
| 04:09.13 | JManV | although, the game highlights do seem to give new games a chance |
| 04:09.20 | RodOfNOD | bounty u might want to be more specific about what u want explained :P |
| 04:09.31 | Bounty | what more do in eed to say |
| 04:09.31 | onetwo | game highlights? |
| 04:09.32 | onetwo | whats that? |
| 04:09.32 | JManV | but as a map developer, how do you get exposure for your map? |
| 04:09.41 | JManV | the highlighted maps |
| 04:10.38 | Catalisk | chat channels |
| 04:10.43 | Catalisk | will help with exposure |
| 04:10.46 | JManV | featured |
| 04:10.58 | JManV | that's true |
| 04:10.59 | PointBlank | um what field am i missing ... if i was to make the corruptor attack ground, i need to change the weapon target filter and what else? |
| 04:11.02 | RodOfNOD | well like what do u wantexplained specifically Bounty |
| 04:11.10 | Bounty | How it works |
| 04:11.16 | Bounty | I think its pretty easy to understand Rod lol |
| 04:11.19 | Bounty | It says its time based |
| 04:11.20 | Bounty | but how? |
| 04:11.24 | Bounty | if 2 players play for 5m inutes |
| 04:11.27 | Bounty | does that mean 10 minutes? |
| 04:11.32 | JManV | that should be good for my map, since it's an rpg |
| 04:12.03 | onetwo | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1207762361#new-post |
| 04:12.06 | onetwo | thats the question Rod |
| 04:12.10 | onetwo | oh and i cant use chat channels |
| 04:12.13 | onetwo | every 2nd thing i say |
| 04:12.15 | onetwo | is spam blocked |
| 04:12.22 | onetwo | too annoying already lol |
| 04:12.29 | onetwo | it deletes it too |
| 04:12.31 | Phaos | well thats what testing i for |
| 04:12.36 | Phaos | is |
| 04:12.50 | Phaos | so they can find out if something is fucking annoying and change it |
| 04:13.34 | RodOfNOD | ty onetwo much clearer |
| 04:14.12 | onetwo | nice, we can join our private channesl |
| 04:14.13 | onetwo | channels |
| 04:14.15 | onetwo | automatically |
| 04:14.18 | onetwo | from options you can set it |
| 04:14.21 | onetwo | and use chat channels ingame |
| 04:16.30 | JManV | i hate my internet right now |
| 04:16.37 | JManV | it's super slow |
| 04:16.41 | onetwo | cant believe your post about popularity system fell so fast Bounty |
| 04:16.49 | onetwo | that shits mega newsworthy |
| 04:16.49 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:16.53 | JManV | can't watch videos at all |
| 04:17.28 | JManV | lots of people testing i guess |
| 04:17.42 | Phaos | your internets slow ?! hah try 56k buddy xD |
| 04:17.47 | JManV | it's still only like 7 on the west coast |
| 04:17.53 | Phaos | IRC is pretty much the only thing I can do right now |
| 04:18.10 | JManV | 56k? ouch |
| 04:18.23 | JManV | right now i'm getting 1,500k and it hella sucks |
| 04:18.31 | Phaos | yeah, thats what happens if you go over your data cap for the month here in NZ |
| 04:18.39 | Phaos | they slow you right down to 56k |
| 04:18.52 | JManV | ew |
| 04:19.02 | onetwo | interesting |
| 04:19.06 | RodOfNOD | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1213111960 - arethey right? |
| 04:19.06 | onetwo | when people chat in a chat channel |
| 04:19.10 | onetwo | it makes sc2 blink |
| 04:19.11 | JManV | yeah, irc is still pretty manageable tho |
| 04:19.12 | Phaos | do you guys even have data caps :P ? |
| 04:19.14 | onetwo | when your alt tabbed |
| 04:19.22 | JManV | that's been around since 14k |
| 04:19.30 | JManV | or even 300 really |
| 04:19.33 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:19.37 | JManV | 300 baud :) |
| 04:19.40 | JManV | i remember that |
| 04:19.48 | onetwo | is hotkey customization going to mess up custom maps? |
| 04:19.57 | onetwo | eg if someone changes attack hotkey to "E" and my ability uses E |
| 04:19.58 | onetwo | ? |
| 04:20.01 | RodOfNOD | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1207991941 - there u go onetwo |
| 04:20.26 | JManV | that's a good question onetwo |
| 04:20.49 | PointBlank | sigh found another bug :D |
| 04:20.58 | PointBlank | have 3 maps in broken maps now :( |
| 04:21.24 | Phaos | I suspect it will force defaults for that key if it is claimed by a custom map |
| 04:21.35 | Phaos | or custom maps will just have forced default key binding |
| 04:23.24 | RodOfNOD | i wonder if they will FIX their FIXES to the techtrees before major release |
| 04:23.48 | JManV | how can i extract icons? |
| 04:24.03 | RodOfNOD | from the mpq? |
| 04:24.11 | Catalisk | this is annoying me |
| 04:24.21 | JManV | in general |
| 04:24.21 | Catalisk | we finally have chat channels, but we can't use them to organize custom games |
| 04:24.21 | RodOfNOD | do u have winmpq JManV? |
| 04:24.27 | JManV | i don't |
| 04:26.10 | Phaos | maaaaannn the spam things seems like a real pain. 3 messages over 20 seconds. thats... wow |
| 04:26.16 | Phaos | who types that slow these days :P |
| 04:26.31 | Catalisk | apparently the guy that configured the filter |
| 04:26.35 | Catalisk | there's already two threads on it |
| 04:26.36 | Catalisk | lol |
| 04:26.46 | Phaos | he is a single finger typist :P |
| 04:27.17 | Catalisk | clearly |
| 04:27.30 | Phaos | *CLANK* A *CLANK* W *CLANK* E *CLANK* S *CLANK* O *CLANK* M *CLANK* E |
| 04:27.38 | onetwo | is anyone here familiar with plumbing related things |
| 04:27.51 | Phaos | depends :P |
| 04:27.56 | RodOfNOD | shit his site is gone JManV for winmpq |
| 04:28.00 | RodOfNOD | let mesee if i have it packed |
| 04:28.00 | Catalisk | That and he likes to type entire paragraphs in an entire line. His manner must indeed be quite shakespearean. I expect he could type out an entire page in iambic pentameter without ever hitting the enter key if the char limit on each message were not obstructing him. |
| 04:28.21 | Phaos | :P |
| 04:28.23 | JManV | hmmm |
| 04:29.07 | onetwo | my sink is smelling fishy when i run water, i read it might be sulfur something |
| 04:29.15 | onetwo | or it may just be stirring up gunk in bottom |
| 04:29.29 | onetwo | so i tried pouring water into a cup only |
| 04:29.34 | onetwo | and smell cup away from sink |
| 04:29.36 | onetwo | it smelled fine |
| 04:29.39 | Dogmai | good morning sunshine |
| 04:29.47 | onetwo | but i could still smell it when pouring into cup |
| 04:29.49 | onetwo | this is annoying |
| 04:29.50 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:30.02 | JManV | i see |
| 04:30.03 | Dogmai | you know what to do |
| 04:30.07 | Dogmai | pour bleach down there |
| 04:30.11 | Phaos | sounds like silt in your catchall |
| 04:30.12 | Dogmai | or better yet |
| 04:30.16 | Dogmai | caustic soda |
| 04:30.16 | Phaos | look under the sink |
| 04:30.27 | Dogmai | it will eat any of the shit, and then flush it |
| 04:30.43 | onetwo | kk, hope its not the incoming water pipe, that would = massive costs |
| 04:31.05 | Phaos | incoming would be your locals problem wouldn't it ? |
| 04:31.19 | Dogmai | the pipes in the house are your problem |
| 04:31.31 | Phaos | I thought he meant from the street |
| 04:31.32 | onetwo | thats what i mean |
| 04:31.41 | JManV | i found a download, but it won't run |
| 04:31.44 | onetwo | if its pipe bringing water into my sink, somewhere in my house |
| 04:31.48 | onetwo | then that sucks, gotta get it fixed |
| 04:31.53 | onetwo | if its just bleach fixing the drain |
| 04:31.55 | onetwo | then im happy |
| 04:31.57 | onetwo | ill find out |
| 04:33.27 | RodOfNOD | JManV this SHOULD work it entails instaling the virtual basic stuff and the runpack also |
| 04:33.28 | Dogmai | use caustic soda |
| 04:33.28 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/All.rar |
| 04:33.37 | Dogmai | bleach was to get rid of the smell, but use caustic soda first |
| 04:33.38 | Dogmai | to clean it out |
| 04:33.40 | RodOfNOD | i cantbelieve he took his site down |
| 04:33.42 | JManV | what a pain |
| 04:33.45 | RodOfNOD | its beenup for like 10 years |
| 04:33.47 | Dogmai | dont use both at the same time |
| 04:33.49 | JManV | i'm not sure it's worth the effort |
| 04:33.52 | RodOfNOD | yes its a pain but its what ive been using for 10 years lol |
| 04:33.54 | Dogmai | cause i think it goes kaboom |
| 04:33.56 | RodOfNOD | depends on ur goal |
| 04:34.01 | RodOfNOD | iextracted EVERY FILE THERE IS |
| 04:34.10 | onetwo | k |
| 04:34.12 | RodOfNOD | so i can easily find shit |
| 04:34.34 | JManV | someone already extracted all the icons, but it's an old pack |
| 04:34.51 | JManV | i was hoping to get the colored icons, but it's not that important |
| 04:35.02 | RodOfNOD | what kind of icons |
| 04:35.07 | RodOfNOD | do ucare if theyare in dds format? |
| 04:35.10 | JManV | cuz mostly i'm adding tint to pre-existing icons |
| 04:35.20 | JManV | no, dds is exactly what i want them in |
| 04:35.27 | RodOfNOD | k give me as ec |
| 04:35.30 | JManV | i'm just adding a tint and putting them back |
| 04:35.38 | JManV | for differnt kinds of weapons and items |
| 04:35.45 | JManV | so you can tell them apart |
| 04:36.25 | RodOfNOD | iunderstand |
| 04:36.33 | RodOfNOD | man they have altered the icons all the time |
| 04:36.41 | RodOfNOD | not sure how to best to get u only the latest version |
| 04:36.52 | progammer | the new help menu is nice |
| 04:36.57 | progammer | what icon did they change ? |
| 04:37.21 | JManV | it may help other people, you could just post a zip on the site |
| 04:37.34 | RodOfNOD | is it as nice as mine progammer? |
| 04:38.00 | progammer | it shows ability |
| 04:38.16 | RodOfNOD | no easy way to get the latest file though JManV |
| 04:38.24 | JManV | no worries then |
| 04:38.25 | RodOfNOD | yea i had plans to do that |
| 04:38.30 | RodOfNOD | and the ups |
| 04:38.49 | progammer | lol bounds 2 hotkey to one button |
| 04:38.51 | RodOfNOD | can u make a screen shot please progammer |
| 04:39.00 | RodOfNOD | of the help new things |
| 04:39.16 | progammer | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=174036¤tpage=37 find it there somewhere |
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| 04:39.19 | JManV | what i appear to be missing is the upgrade level 0 icons |
| 04:40.23 | RodOfNOD | grr thats way to long progammer:P |
| 04:40.35 | RodOfNOD | for attack etc JManV? |
| 04:41.00 | JManV | btn-upgrade-protoss-airarmorlevel0 for example |
| 04:41.17 | JManV | apparently, during the beta when he extracted them, those didn't exist |
| 04:41.28 | JManV | any of the level 0s |
| 04:41.39 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Level0.rar |
| 04:41.45 | RodOfNOD | those? |
| 04:42.16 | JManV | yeah |
| 04:42.46 | JManV | there's probably other stuff that's missing too tho |
| 04:42.54 | JManV | i should probably just load the vb stuff |
| 04:43.18 | onetwo | nice if someone leaves a channel |
| 04:43.22 | onetwo | you can still click on anything they said |
| 04:43.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer_ (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 04:43.27 | onetwo | to add them |
| 04:43.28 | onetwo | later |
| 04:43.33 | progammer_ | RodOfNOD: it will be here http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/15535-patch-1-2-ptr-notes/#p6 |
| 04:43.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster Saucy (4645a202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.69.162.2) |
| 04:43.59 | Saucy | Uhmm does anyone know how to join the PTR servers? |
| 04:44.00 | Saucy | :O |
| 04:44.18 | progammer_ | Saucy: read the faq |
| 04:45.29 | JManV | i'm not sure this is gonna work in 64 bit windows |
| 04:45.50 | JManV | it's looking for a 32-bit runtime that i can't load |
| 04:46.08 | JManV | windows told me no |
| 04:46.26 | JManV | and then it smacked my hand |
| 04:46.38 | RodOfNOD | great |
| 04:46.43 | RodOfNOD | im in 64 myself |
| 04:47.08 | JManV | yeah, at this point i'm just gonna screen capture the few icons i need |
| 04:47.19 | RodOfNOD | oh u scared me |
| 04:47.22 | RodOfNOD | i thought u meant the update |
| 04:47.25 | Saucy | Woot! so stoked for chat channels! :D |
| 04:47.29 | JManV | nono |
| 04:47.33 | RodOfNOD | yea there are a couple versions of the runtime shit JManV |
| 04:47.40 | JManV | i can't load that because my internet is crapping all over me |
| 04:47.46 | RodOfNOD | they all were there on his site |
| 04:47.50 | RodOfNOD | now i cant see it |
| 04:47.55 | RodOfNOD | maybe its cached |
| 04:48.13 | Saucy | so glad they changed the popularity system up a bit ^_^ |
| 04:48.22 | onetwo | yeah |
| 04:48.33 | Saucy | that actually makes me so happy :D |
| 04:48.46 | Catalisk | fucking spam filter.. |
| 04:48.53 | JManV | i already don't like loading anything on my computer i don't need to... |
| 04:48.57 | Catalisk | they seriously need to fix that |
| 04:49.24 | JManV | spam filter? |
| 04:49.28 | Catalisk | in the chat channels |
| 04:49.36 | JManV | like swears? |
| 04:49.41 | JManV | and not-so-swears? |
| 04:49.44 | Catalisk | the if you say 3 things too fast we'll squelch you |
| 04:49.53 | Catalisk | or is it 4 things |
| 04:50.04 | RodOfNOD | ty this JManV - http://sfsrealm.hopto.org/dwnload.html#WinMPQ |
| 04:50.22 | RodOfNOD | thats where i got it from whether its all there idk |
| 04:50.57 | Catalisk | apparently it'sa 3 message limit per 20 seconds |
| 04:51.15 | RodOfNOD | blizzard thinks everyone types slow |
| 04:51.39 | JManV | that's dumb |
| 04:51.48 | JManV | so it you say something, then correct yourself |
| 04:52.03 | RodOfNOD | the key is just never hit return |
| 04:52.08 | RodOfNOD | u will never hit thelimit that way |
| 04:52.13 | JManV | great |
| 04:52.22 | RodOfNOD | that link better JManV? |
| 04:52.34 | JManV | the vb6 version seems to work |
| 04:52.36 | RodOfNOD | btw im on 64 and that first file is what i use |
| 04:52.38 | RodOfNOD | cool |
| 04:53.04 | Catalisk | they somehow managed to fuck up chat channels |
| 04:53.06 | Catalisk | I'm impressed |
| 04:53.11 | RodOfNOD | inwhat way? |
| 04:53.13 | RodOfNOD | the limit? |
| 04:53.38 | Catalisk | yeah |
| 04:54.00 | onetwo | the limit will be fixed |
| 04:54.07 | onetwo | for private channels atleast |
| 04:54.08 | RodOfNOD | maybe hehe |
| 04:54.10 | JManV | where's the mpq then? |
| 04:54.19 | RodOfNOD | in ur sc2 folder |
| 04:54.21 | RodOfNOD | there are MANY |
| 04:54.40 | JManV | i'm finding a few... |
| 04:54.42 | RodOfNOD | i createdanewfolderand exported everyuthing into severalfolders |
| 04:54.51 | RodOfNOD | letme takea sss |
| 04:55.32 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Capture.JPG |
| 04:55.49 | RodOfNOD | so that has the folders i made |
| 04:56.15 | RodOfNOD | u have the core then liberty then the lib multi and then the campaign |
| 04:56.22 | RodOfNOD | also u need to export allof the patches |
| 04:56.36 | RodOfNOD | once they are all exporteducan search and findmultiplecopies of thesamefile |
| 04:56.55 | JManV | there are only sc2.exe files in those folders |
| 04:57.33 | RodOfNOD | the mods |
| 04:57.34 | RodOfNOD | folder |
| 04:57.35 | JManV | i see |
| 04:57.41 | JManV | well damn |
| 04:57.41 | RodOfNOD | and u might have to change the file type |
| 04:57.43 | RodOfNOD | to ALL |
| 04:57.47 | RodOfNOD | for winmpq |
| 04:58.58 | JManV | yup... still too much work |
| 04:59.22 | RodOfNOD | where is sc2mapster chat channel guys |
| 05:00.31 | onetwo | sc2mapster |
| 05:00.34 | onetwo | its up |
| 05:02.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster Deaeod (~deaod@p4FD9A6F0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 05:06.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 05:06.29 | progammer | anyone got the host value for PTR server ? |
| 05:06.39 | progammer | if we got it we can log in and publish map |
| 05:06.47 | JManV | heh |
| 05:07.14 | progammer | Sixen: |
| 05:09.21 | Catalisk | host value? |
| 05:09.50 | progammer | us.logon.battle.net |
| 05:10.12 | Catalisk | i wonder if they'd get pissy about it if we actually did that |
| 05:11.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rodrigo (464f4549@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.79.69.73) |
| 05:11.22 | Rodrigo | Did someone figure out the BattleNetHost of the PTR server?!?!?!? |
| 05:11.43 | Rodrigo | Sixen, have you any idea what is the battle net host of the ptr server? |
| 05:12.14 | Rodrigo | I tried ptr.logon.battle.net but it didnt work |
| 05:12.16 | JManV | can you trace your own network connection somehow? |
| 05:12.24 | Rodrigo | I dont know how |
| 05:12.29 | progammer | what's the beta host value ? |
| 05:12.48 | Rodrigo | If I get the battlenethost, we will be able to publish maps there |
| 05:12.49 | progammer | since ptr is limited to NA, try ptr.us... |
| 05:13.01 | Rodrigo | ok |
| 05:13.08 | Rodrigo | let me try |
| 05:13.50 | Rodrigo | no its not |
| 05:14.08 | Catalisk | us.ptr? |
| 05:14.27 | Rodrigo | I tried |
| 05:14.29 | Rodrigo | its not |
| 05:14.47 | progammer | what does the editor give you |
| 05:15.10 | progammer | try us.ptr.battle.net |
| 05:15.12 | Rodrigo | "Battle.net connection was lost" |
| 05:15.18 | Rodrigo | k |
| 05:15.30 | Rodrigo | I tried |
| 05:15.31 | Rodrigo | its not |
| 05:15.37 | Rodrigo | I will try ptr.us |
| 05:16.03 | Rodrigo | nothing |
| 05:16.14 | progammer | if they wont allow custom maps in ptr, i doubt they allow the gateway to connect through the editor |
| 05:16.27 | Rodrigo | I think they didnt think about that |
| 05:16.55 | Catalisk | it depends if they're serious about not allowing custom maps |
| 05:17.14 | progammer | i need tinkering arounf the new functions more |
| 05:17.22 | Catalisk | they probably wouldn't bother if they're going to let the editor out in a few days |
| 05:17.26 | progammer | which is xml UI |
| 05:17.34 | Catalisk | but if they just want everyone in melee |
| 05:17.39 | progammer | publish old map is of no interest |
| 05:17.40 | Catalisk | they probably wouldn't do it |
| 05:17.43 | progammer | besides it checks for version |
| 05:18.01 | progammer | i doubt unpatched editor can publish to latest version even on official server |
| 05:18.03 | Catalisk | err probably wouldn't allow you to connect with the editor |
| 05:18.09 | Rodrigo | damn |
| 05:18.13 | Catalisk | there's that too |
| 05:18.16 | Rodrigo | I tried like 10 |
| 05:18.20 | Catalisk | though that would probably give a version error |
| 05:18.33 | progammer | Rodrigo: just give up, you will face version error |
| 05:18.37 | Catalisk | wish they'd just let us publish |
| 05:18.54 | Rodrigo | programmer, you might be right, but I want to get to the version error message |
| 05:18.56 | Catalisk | i want to abuse chat channels to get my map played |
| 05:19.03 | FockeWulf | Hey I'm having some trouble creating a timer... I know its probably just me doing something stupid but for some reason it either won't create it or it won't show up |
| 05:19.07 | progammer | the point is public test |
| 05:19.17 | progammer | like the last line of test before shoving out |
| 05:19.18 | Catalisk | rodrigo you heard about the popularity change right? |
| 05:19.21 | FockeWulf | Can anyone link me a tutorial (cause i can't find one) or give me a quick runover on how to do it? |
| 05:19.23 | progammer | so it will be in a few days or a week |
| 05:19.23 | Rodrigo | yeah |
| 05:19.29 | Rodrigo | this is TERRIBLE |
| 05:19.30 | FockeWulf | whats gonna happen? |
| 05:19.35 | FockeWulf | popularity change? |
| 05:19.39 | Rodrigo | Nexus Word Wars and Platform Defense are 5 minutes maps |
| 05:19.40 | FockeWulf | worse or even worse? |
| 05:19.44 | Catalisk | it goes by hours now |
| 05:19.44 | Rodrigo | they will get fucked up |
| 05:19.50 | Catalisk | instead of games/hour |
| 05:20.04 | Catalisk | should remove the bias towards fast games with fewer players |
| 05:20.08 | Rodrigo | well, at least now I dont need a mouse recorder to boost |
| 05:20.10 | Catalisk | if they did it properly |
| 05:20.13 | FockeWulf | it goes by how long the game lasts? |
| 05:20.15 | Catalisk | haha yeah |
| 05:20.23 | progammer | Rodrigo: yeah just afk can booast map |
| 05:20.27 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 05:20.30 | FockeWulf | omg im just gonna create a game and idle in it overnight |
| 05:20.31 | FockeWulf | LOL |
| 05:20.33 | FockeWulf | stupid blizz |
| 05:20.33 | Catalisk | but a single guy afk boosting |
| 05:20.41 | Catalisk | isn't going to dent the popularity list |
| 05:20.42 | Catalisk | i expect |
| 05:20.44 | progammer | full house afk is faster though |
| 05:20.52 | Catalisk | yeah full house is good |
| 05:20.57 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 05:20.57 | onetwo | i think its great |
| 05:21.03 | onetwo | we can overnight boost our map to atleast get it seeded |
| 05:21.09 | onetwo | but not be affected by boosting bots |
| 05:21.10 | onetwo | too much |
| 05:21.10 | Rodrigo | programmer, your video-maps will now get the first page |
| 05:21.19 | progammer | basically what they did is that : Hey you want to boost map, buy more copies |
| 05:21.21 | Rodrigo | just add a 2 hours video in the map |
| 05:21.31 | Catalisk | haha |
| 05:21.33 | Rodrigo | 14 players, 2 hours video |
| 05:21.37 | progammer | rickroll ? |
| 05:21.43 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 05:21.50 | Rodrigo | add the lord of the rings |
| 05:21.51 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:21.56 | onetwo | get a 'booster pack' = 5 packs of sc2 |
| 05:21.58 | Catalisk | wouldn't work |
| 05:22.01 | onetwo | with charizard special |
| 05:22.01 | Catalisk | mb limit |
| 05:22.03 | onetwo | card |
| 05:22.10 | Catalisk | you'd have to replay a short clip |
| 05:22.14 | Catalisk | over and over |
| 05:22.17 | Rodrigo | add a 10mb version of the lord of the rings |
| 05:22.19 | Catalisk | that or set it up in cutscenes |
| 05:22.22 | Rodrigo | quality 1 pixel/second |
| 05:22.27 | Catalisk | lol |
| 05:22.34 | onetwo | lol different game modes = different LOTR discs |
| 05:22.40 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 05:22.44 | onetwo | lotr map, mode 1 is 00:00-00:30 |
| 05:22.47 | onetwo | go ingame |
| 05:22.48 | onetwo | watch the movie |
| 05:22.51 | progammer | ok real id friends seems seperated by server |
| 05:22.51 | onetwo | then go play 2nd map |
| 05:22.53 | onetwo | to watch rest |
| 05:23.04 | onetwo | new form of torrenting |
| 05:23.08 | Catalisk | lol |
| 05:23.08 | progammer | if they;re not on PTR yet I cant add |
| 05:24.12 | Vail|homeWork | onetwo i liked your idea earlier abouit maptesting nightes on fridays |
| 05:24.20 | Catalisk | yeah |
| 05:24.23 | Catalisk | let's test some maps :P |
| 05:24.41 | onetwo | what? that idea was a thread already on sc2mapster |
| 05:24.45 | onetwo | was supposed to happen today |
| 05:24.49 | Vail|homeWork | ah |
| 05:24.52 | Catalisk | we could still do it :P |
| 05:24.55 | onetwo | the only thing i suggested was that chat channels means we can meet there at a time |
| 05:24.59 | Rodrigo | we will need all the sc2mapster members to upload a part of the movie |
| 05:24.59 | onetwo | ingame |
| 05:25.18 | progammer | it would be easier to do map nighst when 1.2 live |
| 05:25.36 | Rodrigo | I will upload the movie from 4:36:20 to 4:39:20 |
| 05:25.41 | Catalisk | with 1.2 you can just grab people straight out of chat channels |
| 05:25.48 | Rodrigo | everyone uploads 3 minutes |
| 05:25.54 | Rodrigo | and we get the full movie on battle.net |
| 05:25.55 | onetwo | agreed cata and pro |
| 05:25.57 | onetwo | g |
| 05:26.15 | Rodrigo | yeah! now I can call people to play Debates :) |
| 05:26.19 | Rodrigo | by the way |
| 05:26.24 | Rodrigo | join the channel DEBATES |
| 05:26.45 | Vail|homeWork | well i need my map tested because i need to see how overpowered ive made myhero so far so i can tone him back |
| 05:27.16 | Vail|homeWork | i really need to finish the other heros so i have others to judge him against though hm |
| 05:27.22 | Vail|homeWork | i will work on one now |
| 05:27.41 | Catalisk | i want more testing for tower offense |
| 05:27.51 | Catalisk | half of my friends don't use hotkeys |
| 05:27.56 | Catalisk | so they suck at it |
| 05:28.00 | Catalisk | the other half are never on |
| 05:28.02 | Catalisk | lol |
| 05:30.21 | Vail|homeWork | i am bad with hotkeys |
| 05:30.24 | Dogmai | why does my file transfer sit at 0% |
| 05:32.25 | Dogmai | for uploading maps |
| 05:43.07 | PointBlank | hey guys, what makes transfusion sound global? ie allies hear across the map? |
| 05:43.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster liq3 (~liquidman@ppp118-209-65-231.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) |
| 05:44.00 | onetwo | Dogmai |
| 05:44.04 | onetwo | forums are down |
| 05:44.05 | onetwo | maybe its down |
| 05:44.42 | Dogmai | god damnit! |
| 05:46.22 | Dogmai | it was an old map |
| 05:46.26 | Dogmai | i forgot to add variants |
| 05:46.31 | Dogmai | slap my ass and call me donkey |
| 05:46.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 05:47.40 | JManV | slaps Dogmai's ass |
| 05:47.44 | JManV | you donkey! |
| 05:48.45 | *** join/#sc2mapster wacko (~wacko@ip68-101-126-242.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 05:48.51 | wacko | moo |
| 05:49.03 | Vail|homeWork | hey its wacko but where are yacko and dot? |
| 05:49.30 | wacko | they are out eating cheese |
| 05:49.39 | Dogmai | oh baby |
| 05:49.40 | Dogmai | <3 |
| 05:49.40 | Vail|homeWork | cheese.. |
| 05:49.53 | onetwo | IT IS US_PTR.LOGON.BATTLE.NET |
| 05:49.55 | onetwo | according to rodrigo |
| 05:49.59 | wacko | lol |
| 05:50.12 | wacko | what are we talking about? |
| 05:50.20 | progammer | hi wacko |
| 05:50.22 | onetwo | haha hes trying to publish |
| 05:50.27 | onetwo | i think he failed |
| 05:50.33 | wacko | to what the ptr? |
| 05:50.36 | progammer | wont work because version difference |
| 05:50.41 | wacko | yea its not going to work |
| 05:50.41 | onetwo | yeah lol |
| 05:50.43 | onetwo | oh rodrigo |
| 05:50.48 | wacko | the editor from 1.1.3 will not work with the 1.2 ptr |
| 05:50.51 | onetwo | and his get rich quick schemes |
| 05:51.06 | progammer | also draggin the map to the PTR file load it in the 1.1.3 version |
| 05:51.30 | wacko | I would not recommend doing that |
| 05:52.05 | Vail|homeWork | i dont care about chatshit i want editor fixes |
| 05:52.17 | onetwo | you got em >< |
| 05:52.22 | Vail|homeWork | chat stuff can come after my mod is working |
| 05:52.29 | onetwo | nono chat is soooo good |
| 05:52.33 | onetwo | can finally get randoms |
| 05:52.34 | wacko | there is a lot of editor fixes :P just no ptr editor :( |
| 05:52.34 | onetwo | to test with |
| 05:52.46 | onetwo | i test my maps at like 1am |
| 05:52.49 | onetwo | nobody ever on |
| 05:52.53 | onetwo | outside of EU |
| 05:52.58 | onetwo | but with chat channels i can finally find some bums |
| 05:53.02 | Catalisk | and EU doesn't work :P |
| 05:53.03 | progammer | no editor to tinker with, nothing else to discuss |
| 05:53.05 | Vail|homeWork | i cant wait till the patch is ready and live sometimein the next three months |
| 05:53.13 | progammer | though the hours pop sys seems good |
| 05:53.26 | onetwo | oh yeah that too |
| 05:53.31 | Catalisk | they need to let us publish |
| 05:53.38 | onetwo | while still abusable by bots... its awesome |
| 05:53.39 | Catalisk | to test the pop system |
| 05:54.06 | progammer | with hours played bots have less effect now |
| 05:54.17 | progammer | unless you buy a tons of accounts |
| 05:54.22 | progammer | win win situation |
| 05:54.31 | wacko | yea |
| 05:54.34 | onetwo | yeah |
| 05:54.42 | onetwo | i REALLY like that |
| 05:54.53 | onetwo | i think SOTIS will rise a lot higher |
| 05:54.58 | onetwo | cause its big player long map |
| 05:55.10 | onetwo | and still managed to stay popular before |
| 05:55.31 | onetwo | my first map back in beta was infection... replayable for > 30 mins typically, and 12 players |
| 05:55.36 | onetwo | died in one day |
| 05:55.36 | progammer | now i can sleep more while i know that my map is still there when i'm afk |
| 05:55.39 | onetwo | but i think |
| 05:55.44 | onetwo | those types of maps have more chance now |
| 05:55.45 | progammer | no worrying |
| 05:55.46 | onetwo | :D |
| 05:56.16 | onetwo | wacko have you tried out chat channels |
| 05:56.23 | onetwo | mcdonalds: im lovin it |
| 05:56.29 | onetwo | aside from spam thing, but yeah |
| 05:56.59 | progammer | wacko: hop on sc2mapster channel |
| 05:59.38 | Vail|homeWork | good night alkl |
| 06:08.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster Saucy (4645a202@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.69.162.2) |
| 06:09.09 | Saucy | Whats the host for sc2 us for publishing maps? |
| 06:09.11 | Saucy | us.battle.net? |
| 06:11.10 | Catalisk | us.logon.battle.net |
| 06:11.16 | Catalisk | for the normal one |
| 06:14.15 | RodOfNOD | k i have the changes in the natives where should i post this progammer? |
| 06:15.52 | Dogmai | why the fuck does my upload keep timing out |
| 06:15.57 | Dogmai | i changed it to us.logon.battle.net |
| 06:16.13 | Dogmai | gateway_down |
| 06:16.25 | Catalisk | that's what someone told me, i don't know if it's accurate |
| 06:16.32 | Catalisk | should be correctly configured by default though |
| 06:20.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster liq3 (~liquidman@ppp118-209-210-52.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) |
| 06:20.45 | RodOfNOD | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/galaxy-scripting-and-trigger-lib/15539-new-natives-coming-fresh-out-of-the-prt-file-1-2/ |
| 06:21.41 | RodOfNOD | new natives if ur interested |
| 06:22.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tordy (6274591f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.116.89.31) |
| 06:22.54 | Tordy | HOLY SHIT UPDATE |
| 06:22.58 | Tordy | CHAT CHANNELS |
| 06:23.00 | Tordy | WHAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 06:23.18 | onetwo | sc2mapster channel on public test realm |
| 06:23.24 | Dogmai | my upload starts at 87% and then gets a gateway down |
| 06:23.26 | Dogmai | error |
| 06:23.36 | Tordy | what |
| 06:23.39 | Tordy | onetwo!!!! |
| 06:23.40 | Tordy | hi!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 06:23.43 | Dogmai | i just made a blank test map and it uploads fine |
| 06:23.46 | Tordy | we can chat on sc2 itself now! |
| 06:23.48 | Tordy | :) |
| 06:23.57 | Dogmai | the map is 4mb |
| 06:23.59 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 06:24.04 | Tordy | so any good editor changes to note |
| 06:24.30 | onetwo | edit boxes |
| 06:24.35 | onetwo | dialog |
| 06:24.42 | onetwo | bank signatures aka protection |
| 06:24.45 | onetwo | localization |
| 06:25.03 | Tordy | bank signatures!? |
| 06:25.08 | Tordy | this is relavent to my interest |
| 06:25.10 | RodOfNOD | protected banksareuseless without protected maps |
| 06:25.11 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 06:25.14 | Tordy | need more info, not on sc2 computer now |
| 06:25.23 | Tordy | oh that kind of protection? ;/ |
| 06:25.24 | Tordy | lame |
| 06:26.23 | RodOfNOD | yes its a condom but it has a leak |
| 06:26.27 | Catalisk | actually rod, blizzard could protect the banks properly |
| 06:26.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster Axxhelairon (~Axxhelair@24-116-166-118.cpe.cableone.net) |
| 06:26.48 | Catalisk | if they check the signature server side |
| 06:26.54 | deathnight114 | eh? |
| 06:26.57 | Catalisk | at least I think they could |
| 06:27.05 | deathnight114 | Did anyone else just get a random starcraft II Update...? |
| 06:27.14 | deathnight114 | That did nothing...? |
| 06:27.19 | Tordy | so how doe sthe bank signature thing work |
| 06:27.38 | RodOfNOD | ok if they tie the map directly the server AND use my name as the key |
| 06:27.41 | Catalisk | =death that's the 1.2 test patch |
| 06:27.41 | RodOfNOD | then yes its possible |
| 06:27.42 | Tordy | should i still use starcode or not |
| 06:27.54 | Catalisk | a signature will use RSA |
| 06:28.19 | RodOfNOD | what does rsa mean |
| 06:28.27 | Tordy | some encryption thingy |
| 06:28.28 | Catalisk | it's a cryptographic routine |
| 06:28.29 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:28.38 | deathnight114 | I have no idea |
| 06:28.39 | Tordy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsa |
| 06:28.40 | deathnight114 | What that means |
| 06:28.40 | Catalisk | basically what they could do is when you publish your map |
| 06:28.41 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 06:28.42 | RodOfNOD | yesbut how does it work |
| 06:29.20 | Catalisk | they generate a private and a public RSA key |
| 06:29.21 | onetwo | use starcode |
| 06:29.27 | onetwo | on top of bank protection |
| 06:29.28 | onetwo | its another layer |
| 06:29.35 | RodOfNOD | i agree onetwo |
| 06:29.45 | RodOfNOD | cuz starcode compresses |
| 06:30.00 | Catalisk | they'd have to sign the bank file on their server |
| 06:30.02 | Catalisk | before its saved |
| 06:30.05 | Catalisk | with the private key |
| 06:30.13 | RodOfNOD | based on my login? |
| 06:30.15 | Catalisk | and you could use the public key to verify integrity |
| 06:30.26 | Catalisk | i think the key could be tied to the map |
| 06:30.33 | Tordy | ok could still use starcode for compressing the values into strings |
| 06:30.39 | RodOfNOD | ok but the map is my login plus themap |
| 06:30.45 | Tordy | just dont have to use encryption and hashing right |
| 06:30.45 | Catalisk | basically it goes: hash the bank, encrypt the hash |
| 06:30.50 | Catalisk | anyone can decrypt the hash |
| 06:31.03 | Catalisk | and anyone can generate the hash to check |
| 06:31.07 | Catalisk | but only blizz can encrypt |
| 06:31.17 | Catalisk | i'm not sure exactly how they implemented it |
| 06:31.18 | RodOfNOD | so if i take ur map |
| 06:31.20 | RodOfNOD | hackit |
| 06:31.20 | Tordy | jygga!!!!! |
| 06:31.21 | RodOfNOD | load it |
| 06:31.22 | Catalisk | that's just one way off the top of my head |
| 06:31.26 | RodOfNOD | up and dothesame routines |
| 06:31.30 | Catalisk | you can't |
| 06:31.30 | RodOfNOD | itwill give me a newencrypt |
| 06:31.39 | Catalisk | the key isn't stored in the map |
| 06:31.44 | Catalisk | it would have to be stored on blizzard's side |
| 06:31.45 | RodOfNOD | i understand |
| 06:31.50 | RodOfNOD | ya |
| 06:31.53 | Catalisk | you can hash it |
| 06:31.56 | RodOfNOD | ok letshope they did it right |
| 06:32.00 | Catalisk | but you have no way to encrypt |
| 06:32.02 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:32.17 | Catalisk | that's just one way, there are probably better architectures that are more suited to the needs |
| 06:32.24 | RodOfNOD | be nice if they could do the same thing with the map |
| 06:32.45 | Catalisk | yeah the trouble with that is it needs to be in the clear for the game to run it |
| 06:32.46 | Catalisk | lol |
| 06:32.48 | Lilianna | :| |
| 06:32.54 | Tordy | :] |
| 06:32.56 | Lilianna | I wish I could use Hard tiles as actors |
| 06:33.02 | RodOfNOD | they could encrypt stuff like the triggers easily |
| 06:33.11 | Tordy | ok gonna need someoen to explain to me the bank signatures in detail |
| 06:33.15 | Catalisk | yes but at some point it would hav eto be decrypted locally |
| 06:33.18 | Tordy | after this weekend |
| 06:33.18 | Catalisk | that makes it vulnerable |
| 06:33.20 | Tordy | >_> |
| 06:33.23 | RodOfNOD | its just an encryption tordy |
| 06:33.34 | Tordy | how is the encryption done |
| 06:33.35 | RodOfNOD | there is litearlly nothing to know other than its supposedly secure |
| 06:33.40 | RodOfNOD | u say |
| 06:33.43 | RodOfNOD | i want it encrypted |
| 06:33.45 | RodOfNOD | and its encrypted |
| 06:33.54 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.54 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.54 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.57 | Tordy | where are the keys stored |
| 06:33.58 | RodOfNOD | those are the natives |
| 06:34.09 | RodOfNOD | well the key will be u and ur map |
| 06:34.15 | RodOfNOD | the routine will be on the server |
| 06:34.16 | Tordy | oh i dont need to specify anything |
| 06:34.20 | RodOfNOD | correct |
| 06:34.32 | Tordy | wha'ts option |
| 06:34.36 | RodOfNOD | other than do u want it encrypted |
| 06:34.42 | RodOfNOD | probably that |
| 06:34.44 | Catalisk | it's handled behind the scenes tordy |
| 06:35.00 | progammer | the opstin will probably be preset whichc you choose |
| 06:35.01 | Tordy | so even if a guy cracks into a map, can crack banks? |
| 06:35.06 | Lilianna | probably option is 0 for not encrypted and 1 for it is? |
| 06:35.07 | Tordy | cant* |
| 06:35.15 | Catalisk | if they do it right then yeah that can happen |
| 06:35.15 | RodOfNOD | tordy hey can crack the bank maybe |
| 06:35.19 | RodOfNOD | but he cant WRITE to the bank |
| 06:35.20 | Lilianna | I have no idea! |
| 06:35.25 | RodOfNOD | cuz u can test if ur bank is changed |
| 06:35.28 | RodOfNOD | illegally |
| 06:35.32 | RodOfNOD | and if it is u ignore it |
| 06:35.38 | Tordy | how to check that |
| 06:35.44 | Catalisk | well actually what rod says is more exact |
| 06:35.45 | Tordy | oh bankverify? |
| 06:35.46 | Catalisk | if they do it right |
| 06:35.50 | Catalisk | yeah :P |
| 06:35.50 | RodOfNOD | 389 <! native bool BankVerify (bank b); |
| 06:35.52 | RodOfNOD | guessing |
| 06:35.54 | onetwo | can you stop someone from copy pasting their level 99 hero from a friend into your map's bank folder |
| 06:35.57 | onetwo | then having doubles |
| 06:35.59 | onetwo | of everything |
| 06:36.01 | RodOfNOD | yes onetwo |
| 06:36.07 | Tordy | oh sweet |
| 06:36.09 | RodOfNOD | if they did what cata said |
| 06:36.11 | RodOfNOD | then yes |
| 06:36.12 | Lilianna | Banks would be encrypted per player |
| 06:36.13 | onetwo | k |
| 06:36.20 | Lilianna | I would think |
| 06:36.21 | RodOfNOD | the key as he said is |
| 06:36.25 | RodOfNOD | they can decrypt |
| 06:36.25 | Lilianna | yah |
| 06:36.28 | RodOfNOD | they cant ENCRYPT |
| 06:36.31 | Tordy | so the key involves player's individual info? |
| 06:36.41 | RodOfNOD | maybe tordy |
| 06:36.42 | Lilianna | more then likely |
| 06:36.45 | onetwo | now what if they copy their bank file, go ingame and give their items to a friend in trade |
| 06:36.47 | RodOfNOD | might just be the map maker and the map |
| 06:36.49 | onetwo | friend saves |
| 06:36.55 | onetwo | and then they paste their old bank file overtop |
| 06:37.00 | onetwo | and voila they still hvae their old items |
| 06:37.00 | RodOfNOD | good ? |
| 06:37.01 | onetwo | have* |
| 06:37.03 | Catalisk | i'm not sure it stops the copy attach |
| 06:37.06 | Catalisk | attack |
| 06:37.16 | RodOfNOD | i cantsee how it could |
| 06:37.19 | Lilianna | probably not |
| 06:37.20 | Catalisk | if the friend saved the copy correctly, they'd be able to do that |
| 06:37.22 | Catalisk | but |
| 06:37.25 | onetwo | guess yeah |
| 06:37.27 | RodOfNOD | however |
| 06:37.29 | RodOfNOD | u could stop it |
| 06:37.30 | Catalisk | if they included a unique identifier in the bank |
| 06:37.34 | RodOfNOD | give each item a unique |
| 06:37.36 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 06:37.37 | Lilianna | unless a local key is stored on a server, witht he most recent key |
| 06:37.39 | RodOfNOD | what hes saying |
| 06:37.40 | Catalisk | like the user email |
| 06:37.44 | onetwo | hmm |
| 06:37.46 | Catalisk | and that gets hashed |
| 06:37.49 | RodOfNOD | heres what i planon doing btw |
| 06:37.58 | Tordy | is the update up btw? |
| 06:37.58 | RodOfNOD | i willask new players to the map to type in their names |
| 06:38.00 | Catalisk | they could implement that the map confirms you're using your bank |
| 06:38.01 | Tordy | because it's not up for me |
| 06:38.09 | Catalisk | you ahve to launch SC2 public test |
| 06:38.10 | RodOfNOD | if the name doesnt match i will know because the group will vote |
| 06:38.15 | Tordy | what's that |
| 06:38.26 | Catalisk | it's in the sc2 folder |
| 06:38.30 | Tordy | anyway gues ill just wait for official update |
| 06:38.32 | Catalisk | they had details |
| 06:38.38 | Tordy | did you guys test the bank verification yet |
| 06:38.39 | Catalisk | official update will probably be weeks |
| 06:38.41 | Tordy | on bnet |
| 06:38.42 | RodOfNOD | the update doesnt work with the editor so |
| 06:38.43 | Catalisk | we can't |
| 06:38.45 | RodOfNOD | dont worry bout that |
| 06:38.48 | Tordy | oh man :/ |
| 06:38.49 | Catalisk | they didn't update the editor |
| 06:38.52 | Catalisk | only the game |
| 06:38.59 | Catalisk | the only custom game that we can play |
| 06:39.02 | Catalisk | is burning fucking tide |
| 06:39.06 | Tordy | XD |
| 06:39.08 | Lilianna | fail :| |
| 06:39.13 | RodOfNOD | if i wanted to spend the time i bet i could hack this to work on the editor hehe |
| 06:39.52 | RodOfNOD | so the bad news for me is blizzard added in abilities and upgrades used to the HELP screen |
| 06:40.07 | RodOfNOD | the good news is they did a shit job of it and the their new techtree is kaka |
| 06:40.08 | Catalisk | hmm? |
| 06:40.14 | Lilianna | lol |
| 06:40.23 | Lilianna | so your Dialogue help system is still better? |
| 06:40.29 | RodOfNOD | ohyea |
| 06:40.38 | RodOfNOD | we shall see what the UI changes allow for |
| 06:40.43 | RodOfNOD | i may have more power than i do now |
| 06:40.49 | RodOfNOD | but my work is not wasted :> |
| 06:40.51 | Lilianna | It sounds like you can make a template |
| 06:41.02 | Lilianna | and just copy the template and place it in a panel |
| 06:41.04 | Lilianna | for each unit |
| 06:41.05 | RodOfNOD | sure but i question HOW u fill the data that isntthere |
| 06:41.16 | RodOfNOD | in wc3 u could alter the ui too |
| 06:41.22 | RodOfNOD | but u couldnt get it to addthings |
| 06:41.25 | RodOfNOD | only move and remove |
| 06:41.40 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 06:41.48 | Lilianna | I never did play with the WC3 UI |
| 06:41.50 | RodOfNOD | if they allow me to change i have done using sc2layout files and their dialog editor |
| 06:41.54 | Lilianna | I only did really early editing for it |
| 06:41.56 | RodOfNOD | then it will truely be a big change |
| 06:42.22 | RodOfNOD | btw Catalisk- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/zergtl.JPG |
| 06:42.36 | RodOfNOD | and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Screenshot2010-11-29%2023_11_53.jpg |
| 06:42.57 | Lilianna | Someone should turn Meinhoff Road tile into a runway model for me |
| 06:42.59 | Lilianna | nods |
| 06:43.01 | Catalisk | where are those from? |
| 06:43.20 | RodOfNOD | from me :> |
| 06:43.32 | RodOfNOD | those are my help screens hehe |
| 06:43.35 | Tordy | wow that looks REALLY good rod |
| 06:43.37 | Tordy | i like :) |
| 06:43.38 | RodOfNOD | ty |
| 06:43.54 | Lilianna | I think it needs more green, too much blue! |
| 06:43.55 | Lilianna | >___> |
| 06:43.57 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 06:44.03 | RodOfNOD | well let meshow u a picture of green |
| 06:44.13 | RodOfNOD | what unit do u like? |
| 06:44.13 | Lilianna | I think I remember the old green ones :) |
| 06:44.24 | Lilianna | Im just teasing you anyways |
| 06:44.29 | RodOfNOD | i know |
| 06:44.32 | RodOfNOD | but i still want to show off |
| 06:44.37 | Catalisk | those are good |
| 06:44.41 | Lilianna | lol |
| 06:44.45 | RodOfNOD | so pic a unit |
| 06:44.46 | Catalisk | you have to go into the bnet site to get them currently |
| 06:44.46 | RodOfNOD | any unit |
| 06:44.50 | Lilianna | Nova! |
| 06:44.55 | Lilianna | <_< |
| 06:44.56 | Catalisk | lol nova |
| 06:45.01 | RodOfNOD | see now u think |
| 06:45.03 | Lilianna | Oh I know, Nova's sister |
| 06:45.04 | RodOfNOD | that u have me stumped |
| 06:45.10 | Lilianna | the black haired one |
| 06:45.24 | Lilianna | I cant recall her name at the moment |
| 06:45.30 | Catalisk | mira |
| 06:45.34 | Lilianna | Right |
| 06:45.36 | Tordy | perhaps the bank verification can help solve my bank-related crashes |
| 06:45.42 | Tordy | hope os |
| 06:45.43 | Tordy | hope so |
| 06:45.59 | Tordy | by taking away the encryption & hashing that starcode has to do |
| 06:46.02 | Catalisk | the bank verification if correctly implemented will make people who want persistent scores happy |
| 06:46.12 | Tordy | hop eit works |
| 06:46.16 | Catalisk | you wouldn't need something like starcode |
| 06:46.18 | Catalisk | i think |
| 06:46.26 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/novababy.JPG |
| 06:46.28 | Catalisk | what is starcode anyways? |
| 06:46.29 | RodOfNOD | Lilianna :> |
| 06:46.35 | Tordy | think you'll still want starcode to compress the bank values to strings |
| 06:46.36 | RodOfNOD | encrypt and compress for banks Catalisk |
| 06:46.37 | Tordy | more convenient |
| 06:46.38 | Catalisk | i've never wanted banks |
| 06:46.47 | RodOfNOD | ah banks are the greatest thing this game has |
| 06:46.49 | RodOfNOD | after dialogs |
| 06:46.52 | onetwo | yeah |
| 06:46.53 | RodOfNOD | at least compared to wc3 |
| 06:46.55 | Lilianna | hehe |
| 06:47.03 | Tordy | banks would be great if they're secure |
| 06:47.06 | RodOfNOD | i dont know that other unit Lilianna |
| 06:47.09 | RodOfNOD | is that a story book one |
| 06:47.12 | Catalisk | so rod is that a map? |
| 06:47.12 | RodOfNOD | cuz i dont do the story ones |
| 06:47.20 | RodOfNOD | its a help front end for sc1 mod |
| 06:47.20 | Lilianna | No, she is just a model |
| 06:47.21 | Lilianna | no unit |
| 06:47.28 | RodOfNOD | oh lol |
| 06:47.30 | progammer | portrait to be exact |
| 06:47.37 | Lilianna | its just Nova with black hair |
| 06:47.38 | RodOfNOD | that would not be in my list on purpose hehe |
| 06:47.41 | RodOfNOD | ah |
| 06:48.06 | Catalisk | i'm sure banks are useful, it's just i've only done one map and I don't need persistent data for it :P |
| 06:48.35 | RodOfNOD | i bet i can come up witha reason to use banks |
| 06:48.37 | RodOfNOD | for ur map |
| 06:48.45 | Lilianna | The only maps Ive made are fun data excersizes. :x |
| 06:48.50 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 06:48.52 | Lilianna | at least, the only stuff I finish |
| 06:48.59 | RodOfNOD | hehe double |
| 06:49.00 | Lilianna | I have a fun idea for this weeks one |
| 06:49.03 | Lilianna | but I want a runway. :O |
| 06:49.21 | Lilianna | Did Otixa jump off a bridge or something? |
| 06:49.26 | RodOfNOD | hmm i need to pull the correct tooltip for the hero units it appears |
| 06:49.36 | RodOfNOD | we can only wish hehe |
| 06:49.52 | Catalisk | i hate the data editor |
| 06:49.54 | Catalisk | so clunky |
| 06:50.02 | Catalisk | i also hate the trigger editor |
| 06:50.08 | Catalisk | because data is the proper way to do things |
| 06:50.10 | Catalisk | if you can |
| 06:50.12 | RodOfNOD | is their anything u like? |
| 06:50.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster Curry|Away (~currydevi@75-142-21-134.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com) |
| 06:50.17 | Catalisk | yes |
| 06:50.21 | Catalisk | finished products :P |
| 06:50.25 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 06:50.31 | Catalisk | testing is fun too |
| 06:50.32 | RodOfNOD | hi curry |
| 06:50.36 | Lilianna | Data editor is fun. :D |
| 06:50.40 | Currydevil | Heya Rod |
| 06:50.41 | RodOfNOD | i could spend my life prototyping |
| 06:50.41 | Catalisk | it's too slow |
| 06:51.07 | Lilianna | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iKXo9qUujs |
| 06:51.12 | Catalisk | and the organization is annoying |
| 06:51.13 | Lilianna | Overseer bombing! |
| 06:51.18 | Catalisk | lol |
| 06:51.35 | Catalisk | yes you can do awesome things with it, I just don't like the interface provided to do those awesome things |
| 06:51.37 | Lilianna | they ooze like overlords droping creep |
| 06:51.42 | Lilianna | but just drop bombs. xD |
| 06:51.55 | progammer | i would prefer bomb not move |
| 06:51.58 | progammer | but just drop down |
| 06:52.08 | Catalisk | haha that's awesome |
| 06:52.09 | Lilianna | I didnt finish it |
| 06:52.16 | Lilianna | but it was going to be like droping reaver bombs |
| 06:52.25 | Lilianna | I didnt finish it, because it doesnt walk around stuff or around cliffs |
| 06:52.28 | Catalisk | what's the model? |
| 06:52.32 | Lilianna | the new validators in 1.2 would help |
| 06:52.39 | Lilianna | its the Corruption missle model I think |
| 06:52.47 | Lilianna | or something like that |
| 06:52.48 | Catalisk | and why are they still dumping creep? |
| 06:52.59 | Lilianna | because I made them do that while they attack |
| 06:53.08 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 06:53.11 | Catalisk | looks out of place |
| 06:53.15 | RodOfNOD | messy messy overseers |
| 06:53.21 | Catalisk | you should apply a color so it's green :P |
| 06:53.29 | Lilianna | they wouldnt work |
| 06:53.36 | Lilianna | because purple + green doesnt equal green |
| 06:53.47 | RodOfNOD | redothe texture |
| 06:53.50 | Catalisk | isn't there a way to modulate color |
| 06:53.53 | Lilianna | its all particles |
| 06:54.02 | RodOfNOD | u can do particles |
| 06:54.08 | Lilianna | I dunno how! |
| 06:54.10 | RodOfNOD | i did it for the dark archon |
| 06:54.11 | Catalisk | i distinctly remember modulating the color of one of the actors |
| 06:54.23 | Catalisk | made pylons darker |
| 06:54.27 | Lilianna | but an archon is white |
| 06:54.30 | Lilianna | mostly :o |
| 06:54.30 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/New%20folder/DarkArchon1lq.JPG |
| 06:54.52 | Lilianna | Shush you, Im working on other stuff now |
| 06:54.55 | RodOfNOD | thats not the done version which is darker and has a couple dark emitters |
| 06:54.56 | Lilianna | that project is done! :p |
| 06:55.00 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 06:55.08 | Lilianna | Time to make an air strike |
| 06:55.09 | Catalisk | it would be nice if they'd given the dark templar pylon a full animation set |
| 06:55.16 | Catalisk | i think it's called the monolith? |
| 06:55.19 | Catalisk | it looks awesome |
| 06:55.27 | RodOfNOD | ya i just found that today |
| 06:55.28 | Catalisk | but i couldn't use it because it doesn't have a death animation :( |
| 06:55.35 | RodOfNOD | added as a neutral building for campaignhehe |
| 06:55.38 | Lilianna | just use an explosion |
| 06:55.42 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 06:55.44 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 06:55.50 | Lilianna | and replace an explosions instead of the building explode |
| 06:55.50 | RodOfNOD | just use the pylon explsion |
| 06:55.54 | Catalisk | i think i did that |
| 06:55.56 | Catalisk | it didnt look right |
| 06:56.06 | Lilianna | you dont get the fun Havok pieces |
| 06:56.08 | RodOfNOD | beggers cant be choosers.... |
| 06:56.10 | Catalisk | i know I did that |
| 06:56.11 | Catalisk | actually |
| 06:56.12 | Catalisk | lol |
| 06:56.15 | Catalisk | actually I can be |
| 06:56.23 | Catalisk | instead of using the monolith |
| 06:56.28 | Lilianna | Just replace every buildings death with a nuclear explosion |
| 06:56.28 | Catalisk | I warped and recolored the pylon |
| 06:56.31 | Lilianna | no one will complain |
| 06:56.31 | Catalisk | to get that effect :P |
| 06:56.34 | Catalisk | haha |
| 06:56.41 | Catalisk | well it doesnt look like a monolith |
| 06:56.47 | Catalisk | but it's visibly different from a normal pylon |
| 06:56.49 | Lilianna | everyone knows more explosions means better! |
| 06:56.51 | Catalisk | and looks good enough for me |
| 06:57.04 | Catalisk | i wanted to incorporate nukes into tower offense |
| 06:57.07 | Lilianna | Also, the person who made the space battles game |
| 06:57.13 | Catalisk | but i just couldn't think of a way that wouldn't be completely stupid |
| 06:57.18 | Lilianna | should use the Battlecruiser model that looks like a boat |
| 06:57.31 | Catalisk | the loki? |
| 06:57.35 | progammer | i'm on a boat |
| 06:57.37 | Lilianna | nope |
| 06:57.42 | Lilianna | theres 4 BC models |
| 06:57.44 | Lilianna | lemme find it |
| 06:57.46 | Catalisk | really? |
| 06:57.47 | Catalisk | lol |
| 06:57.52 | progammer | hurricane |
| 06:57.54 | progammer | battlecruiser |
| 06:57.57 | progammer | loki |
| 06:57.59 | progammer | helios |
| 06:58.07 | progammer | hyperion |
| 06:58.38 | Lilianna | I think it was Hurricane |
| 06:58.41 | Catalisk | map editor takes forever to load |
| 06:59.31 | Catalisk | helios is a crashing bc |
| 06:59.32 | Catalisk | lol |
| 07:00.41 | Lilianna | http://i34.tinypic.com/8wzk3o.jpg |
| 07:00.42 | Lilianna | there you go |
| 07:00.47 | Lilianna | Boat Battlecruiser |
| 07:01.18 | RodOfNOD | oooh |
| 07:01.19 | progammer | Catalisk: it looks cool |
| 07:01.21 | progammer | and badass |
| 07:01.22 | Catalisk | i guess the model is there but no unit |
| 07:01.24 | RodOfNOD | where did u get that Lilianna |
| 07:01.31 | Lilianna | Its in the campaign model files |
| 07:01.37 | Lilianna | no unit |
| 07:01.37 | RodOfNOD | it is> |
| 07:01.39 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 07:01.44 | progammer | no unit |
| 07:01.48 | Lilianna | See on the previewer browser |
| 07:01.49 | progammer | junk model |
| 07:01.57 | RodOfNOD | name? |
| 07:02.05 | Lilianna | it has the name of the model there |
| 07:02.11 | Lilianna | its highlighted ont he right |
| 07:02.17 | Lilianna | only open folder |
| 07:03.59 | RodOfNOD | hehethat is cool |
| 07:04.02 | Tordy | so what ar ewe doin |
| 07:04.05 | RodOfNOD | i need several boats |
| 07:06.03 | Catalisk | the hurricane looks awesome |
| 07:06.17 | Lilianna | the BattlecruisePlasma was unfinished last time I checked |
| 07:06.21 | Catalisk | lol battlecruiser plasma |
| 07:06.22 | Lilianna | the guns werent colored |
| 07:06.23 | RodOfNOD | no propulsion though |
| 07:06.43 | RodOfNOD | however.... if u do what i did accidentally..... |
| 07:06.44 | Catalisk | yamato looks cool too |
| 07:06.48 | RodOfNOD | clear the screen |
| 07:06.51 | RodOfNOD | place the bc |
| 07:06.55 | RodOfNOD | then place the hurricane |
| 07:06.56 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 07:07.09 | Catalisk | is it big? |
| 07:07.22 | RodOfNOD | itworks |
| 07:07.47 | RodOfNOD | so Lilianna u gave me a great easter egg idea |
| 07:07.53 | Lilianna | :p |
| 07:07.56 | RodOfNOD | i will make it so u can see novas portrait |
| 07:08.01 | RodOfNOD | if u do something hehe |
| 07:08.04 | Lilianna | :) |
| 07:08.05 | progammer | why bnet isstill down ? |
| 07:08.09 | onetwo | i wonder if blizz dota is gonna release with 1.2 |
| 07:08.10 | onetwo | not on PTR |
| 07:08.11 | onetwo | but on 1.2 |
| 07:08.12 | RodOfNOD | cuz we broke it |
| 07:08.46 | progammer | onetwo: they said the dota map is likely to be pused futher |
| 07:08.50 | progammer | than the other 3 maps |
| 07:09.01 | Catalisk | bnet's down? |
| 07:09.19 | Catalisk | doesnt seemd own to me :P |
| 07:09.24 | progammer | forum |
| 07:09.28 | Catalisk | oh |
| 07:09.33 | Catalisk | i hate the lack of chats now |
| 07:09.40 | RodOfNOD | kso what is the name of this mira chick |
| 07:09.44 | Catalisk | mira han |
| 07:09.45 | RodOfNOD | cuzi cant find the model |
| 07:09.58 | progammer | nvm its live now |
| 07:10.15 | Catalisk | time to bitch some more! |
| 07:11.37 | RodOfNOD | funny pic i just made: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Capture1.JPG |
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| 07:11.51 | Catalisk | hey they changed the bnet forums |
| 07:12.50 | onetwo | ? |
| 07:12.55 | RodOfNOD | Lilianna i cant find that portrait of the black haired nova any ideas? |
| 07:13.08 | Lilianna | lets see |
| 07:13.26 | Lilianna | GhostEcho.m3 |
| 07:13.30 | Lilianna | Look for that |
| 07:13.35 | RodOfNOD | k ty |
| 07:13.39 | RodOfNOD | its a model |
| 07:15.07 | progammer | (test) |
| 07:15.11 | RodOfNOD | any figure out how to center justify text |
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| 07:19.39 | Tordy | meet me some fuckin where |
| 07:24.12 | Tordy | man these do look bad |
| 07:24.13 | Tordy | http://www.icyhell.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/leagues.jpg |
| 07:24.47 | progammer | officials ? |
| 07:25.00 | progammer | mined from the game ? |
| 07:25.33 | progammer | while the does looks horribad, the player in it wont care about shiny shit anyway |
| 07:28.23 | Catalisk | leviathan is crazy |
| 07:28.33 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 07:28.50 | Catalisk | it summons mutas |
| 07:28.53 | Catalisk | and broodlords |
| 07:28.54 | Catalisk | for free |
| 07:28.55 | Catalisk | lol |
| 07:29.14 | Catalisk | i guess they never full implemented it |
| 07:29.29 | Tordy | weekends suck |
| 07:29.41 | RodOfNOD | welli think at onepoint each race had a "hero" unit |
| 07:31.59 | Catalisk | there's no remnant of that for terran |
| 07:32.08 | Catalisk | terratron isn't a serious unit |
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| 07:33.12 | RodOfNOD | well for allwe know ODIN was first |
| 07:33.18 | progammer | hyperion will kick your asses |
| 07:33.27 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 07:33.32 | progammer | 400 AOE yamato with no cooldown and cost |
| 07:33.43 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 07:33.49 | progammer | 3000 hitpoints with reduced damage behavior |
| 07:34.00 | RodOfNOD | is that what it really has? |
| 07:34.07 | progammer | yes it is |
| 07:34.28 | Catalisk | hmm yeah odin would work |
| 07:34.38 | RodOfNOD | idont see that kind of AOE |
| 07:34.44 | Tordy | hyperion is OP as fuck |
| 07:34.59 | RodOfNOD | the tool tip says it does 0 damage lol |
| 07:35.01 | Tordy | but it was just a scripted unit for a mission so it makes sense |
| 07:35.06 | progammer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXDp03A7m1k |
| 07:35.27 | progammer | shooting yamato like dragonballZ |
| 07:36.11 | Tordy | so did anyone mka e afull fledged terratron unit yet |
| 07:36.29 | Tordy | i mean it's been 5 months cmon |
| 07:36.35 | Tordy | :[ |
| 07:36.38 | Tordy | ok |
| 07:36.54 | Tordy | how do i make a unit glow again |
| 07:36.59 | progammer | like what ? |
| 07:37.02 | progammer | model attachment ? |
| 07:37.10 | Tordy | maybe |
| 07:37.23 | Tordy | by glow i dont mean simply changing its tint |
| 07:37.37 | Tordy | i mean there's some light gradient |
| 07:37.39 | Tordy | w/e thats called |
| 07:37.52 | Tordy | it's like the unit is emitting light |
| 07:37.56 | wacko | awdawd |
| 07:38.05 | Tordy | and also that distortion effect |
| 07:38.28 | Tordy | you know how archons visibly distort the space around their model |
| 07:38.33 | Tordy | kinda like that |
| 07:38.48 | Tordy | so how do i do this with model attachment |
| 07:41.29 | Tordy | hi there |
| 07:41.38 | Catalisk | terratron is floaty |
| 07:41.47 | Catalisk | but i think you could do data edits to make it nice |
| 07:41.54 | Catalisk | it's probably got ground walk animations |
| 07:42.13 | Catalisk | i'm sure it has them actually |
| 07:42.33 | Catalisk | actually that's weird |
| 07:42.48 | Catalisk | i'm surprised we don't have a "TERRATRON, TERRORIZE" mapp yet |
| 07:58.59 | Catalisk | awww they must have removed the old walk anim |
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| 08:14.12 | moshewe | anybody here? |
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| 08:33.44 | Dekar- | yes |
| 08:35.07 | Dekar- | beat it! |
| 08:44.15 | Xaragoth | good morning |
| 08:46.17 | Dekar- | hi xara! |
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| 09:43.59 | Dekar- | yes |
| 09:44.02 | Dekar- | still |
| 09:47.32 | moshewe | do you have any idea |
| 09:47.40 | moshewe | how i can change the mapscript file |
| 09:47.49 | moshewe | and have the editor read my changes? |
| 09:48.04 | moshewe | i've tried injecting an edited file with a mpq editor - no cigar |
| 09:48.48 | A1win | are you sure the editor even reads the file instead of just writing it? |
| 09:48.58 | moshewe | yeah |
| 09:49.04 | moshewe | the file retains my editing |
| 09:49.10 | moshewe | the editor reads a blank slate |
| 09:49.22 | moshewe | just he melee init and stuff like that |
| 09:49.31 | A1win | maybe it uses a checksum for it? |
| 09:49.36 | moshewe | maybe |
| 09:49.40 | moshewe | idiot blizz :/ |
| 09:50.27 | moshewe | is there a way to enter custom script into the editor and make it recognize events and triggers i've defined in it? |
| 09:50.37 | moshewe | scripts* |
| 09:50.45 | moshewe | them* |
| 09:51.44 | A1win | I think I've heard people doing something like that but got no idea how |
| 09:52.07 | moshewe | shite |
| 09:52.19 | moshewe | i don't want to use the editor, it's slow and cumbersome |
| 09:52.31 | moshewe | gotta find a way to avoid it altogether |
| 09:54.26 | A1win | heh ;p |
| 09:54.48 | A1win | just takes a bit of getting used to it ;x |
| 09:54.55 | moshewe | i write code for a living |
| 09:55.05 | moshewe | i don't do menus and dropdown lists |
| 09:55.11 | moshewe | -_- |
| 09:58.08 | A1win | feels fast enough for me.. finding the functions is quick with the search box and after that it's just hitting enter |
| 09:59.11 | moshewe | meh |
| 09:59.13 | A1win | the only thing that really annoys me is the lag when editing large triggers |
| 09:59.18 | moshewe | duh |
| 09:59.27 | moshewe | my average trigger size is 100 lines |
| 09:59.34 | moshewe | imagine my woes |
| 09:59.40 | A1win | which is why I just split them in multiple action definitions :3 makes it easier to understand it as well |
| 10:00.29 | A1win | what do you average triggers do then? ;p |
| 10:01.31 | A1win | there's also a size limit for trigger data, so if you're trying to program an completely new game or something, that might restrict you a bit :s |
| 10:11.06 | moshewe | yeah i know |
| 10:11.27 | moshewe | i'm trying to implement something for my research |
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| 10:57.18 | Sixen | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1219752070 |
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| 11:10.50 | Kueken | goood morning |
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| 11:26.58 | Arthas- | holy shit |
| 11:27.04 | Arthas- | 1.2 was lots of changes |
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| 11:28.05 | Dekar- | its not out yet so technically there will be a lot of changes :p |
| 11:30.31 | Arthas- | reapers still useless :| |
| 11:33.05 | A1win | what does "scaled" mean in the damage dealt modification in buffs? |
| 11:33.49 | Bibendus|AFK | hey |
| 11:33.50 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 9 hours 7 minutes 13 seconds |
| 11:34.00 | Bibendus | bliz says that a new unannounced feature will come with 1.2 |
| 11:34.01 | Bibendus | :D |
| 11:34.12 | Arthas- | Locally hosted maps! |
| 11:34.18 | Arthas- | plz plzz plz plz plz |
| 11:34.46 | Bibendus | i hope its not |
| 11:34.49 | Bibendus | a christmas shit |
| 11:34.54 | Bibendus | like zealot with santa's hat |
| 11:34.56 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:34.59 | Arthas- | I was angry for 3 seconds there |
| 11:35.07 | Arthas- | "i hope its not" :p |
| 11:35.11 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:35.26 | Bibendus | why would u need a locally host map btw? |
| 11:35.27 | Arthas- | also, that what you just said seems likely |
| 11:35.31 | Bibendus | that would lag : |
| 11:35.40 | Arthas- | not between me and my fellow swedes |
| 11:35.53 | Arthas- | Ill just kick non-swedish ppl, cuz that's how I roll! :D |
| 11:36.13 | Bibendus | pdates:2 The popularity system is changed to reflect map playtime in PTR server. Stay tuned for any updates. |
| 11:36.15 | Bibendus | holy shitz |
| 11:36.16 | Bibendus | finally |
| 11:36.50 | Bibendus | they listen to us |
| 11:36.51 | Bibendus | : |
| 11:36.52 | Bibendus | :D |
| 11:37.00 | Bibendus | they are just slow doing things |
| 11:37.42 | Arthas- | Where is my chat :( |
| 11:37.46 | Arthas- | Oh, thar! |
| 11:38.06 | Arthas- | seriously, i hope they do something about the reaper |
| 11:38.16 | Bibendus | group replays |
| 11:38.16 | Bibendus | maybe |
| 11:38.17 | Arthas- | then ill be happy with the patch :D |
| 11:38.18 | Phaos | reaper ? |
| 11:38.31 | Arthas- | yeah, since the factory req for booster I havent found it very useful |
| 11:38.37 | Phaos | reapers are the least of the OPness of Terran |
| 11:38.48 | Bibendus | they should give it |
| 11:38.50 | Bibendus | a more useful role |
| 11:38.50 | Bibendus | now |
| 11:38.54 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 11:39.17 | Arthas- | less dmg to buildings, then a bit more health |
| 11:39.27 | Arthas- | then use them for ambushing armies :D |
| 11:39.55 | Phaos | how do we acsess the PTR editor changes O.O |
| 11:40.47 | Phaos | thats what I really wanna play with |
| 11:41.53 | Phaos | mostly mouse tracking |
| 11:42.01 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:42.09 | Bibendus | stop playing with yourself |
| 11:42.13 | Bibendus | u'll get blind |
| 11:42.20 | Phaos | but it feels SO GOOD |
| 11:42.27 | Arthas- | Trust Bibendus, its common knowledge |
| 11:42.47 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:43.12 | Arthas- | I got lucky and just became half-blind |
| 11:43.26 | Phaos | why do they put the editor changes in the PTR if we can't get at them |
| 11:43.30 | Phaos | I need my fix maaan |
| 11:57.45 | Phaos | doesn't look like it's available :( |
| 11:57.54 | Phaos | gotta wait for the REAL patch. buh |
| 11:57.55 | Dekar- | are you on north america? |
| 11:58.00 | Phaos | yes I am |
| 11:58.24 | Phaos | oh I can access the client stugg |
| 11:58.25 | Phaos | ff |
| 11:58.29 | Phaos | but not the editor stuff |
| 12:12.47 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 13:09.33 | A1win | umm.. is attack speed time between attacks? |
| 13:09.57 | A1win | no.. nevermind |
| 13:10.36 | A1win | forgot to add my multiplier to 1.0 so it was something like 0.1 instead of 1.1 ;p |
| 13:16.20 | Phaos | anyone worked out how to use the PTR patch editor changes yet? |
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| 13:36.45 | Dekar- | how to fix missiles firing from ground rather than from the unit? |
| 13:45.37 | wOlfLinG | Ok, so what defines where a unit can be selected? |
| 13:45.57 | wOlfLinG | 1Because my heroes seem to be selected even when not hovering over them :/ |
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| 14:22.27 | Arthas- | http://dagobah.net/flash/Recover_hard_drive.swf |
| 14:22.27 | Arthas- | :D |
| 14:22.35 | Arthas- | SAVED |
| 14:29.13 | Xapti | hey guys is it easy to make an AoE ability that only affects 1 unit? |
| 14:29.48 | Xapti | hmmm....i need it to be a "target" unit as well, so I'm thinking this will be difficult |
| 14:30.03 | Xapti | because it's not actually the ability's target... it needs to target a point |
| 14:32.23 | Dekar- | yeah |
| 14:32.51 | Dekar- | just write 1 in the maxiumum search count field |
| 14:33.02 | Kueken | -.- |
| 14:33.05 | Xapti | oh cool |
| 14:33.10 | Kueken | I had the same thing typed out |
| 14:33.15 | Dekar- | :p |
| 14:33.22 | Xapti | except I need it to be a specific unit, not just a random one in the AoE |
| 14:33.35 | Kueken | which one should it be? |
| 14:33.39 | Xapti | so I probaly wouldn't be able to use it, but its much btter than nothing |
| 14:33.47 | Kueken | you can use validators or target sorts to specify it |
| 14:34.00 | Xapti | it will be a unit via triggers |
| 14:34.17 | Xapti | ok, so I can set a flag on the target unit then righ |
| 14:34.32 | Kueken | you can always mark it with a behavior or something |
| 14:34.42 | Dekar- | maybe you should just trigger the aoe |
| 14:34.43 | Xapti | then remove it when it's not being hit |
| 14:35.03 | Dekar- | depending on how complex you need it |
| 14:35.09 | Kueken | maybe it would be better to explain what exactly you want to achieve |
| 14:35.21 | Kueken | sounds if you want to do some dirty workaround |
| 14:35.31 | Xapti | yes. I have a trigger that will command a unit to target a point |
| 14:35.35 | Kueken | which could probably be done in a better way |
| 14:35.45 | Xapti | that point is the direction it's target is heading |
| 14:36.33 | Xapti | it would be good if the ability didn't hit other potenial targets with the AoE tough |
| 14:37.07 | Kueken | need more information |
| 14:37.10 | Kueken | the ability |
| 14:37.14 | Kueken | is casted on an area |
| 14:37.32 | Kueken | and the target is one specific unit |
| 14:37.33 | Xapti | projectily ability that travels to a location and deals AoE to an area |
| 14:37.38 | Kueken | what specifys this unit? |
| 14:37.50 | Xapti | trigger |
| 14:37.51 | Kueken | ah |
| 14:37.59 | Kueken | whats the trigger for? |
| 14:38.07 | Xapti | predicting where the target will move |
| 14:38.11 | Xapti | because movers doesn't work |
| 14:38.15 | Xapti | for what I want |
| 14:38.19 | Kueken | so you want a missile |
| 14:38.26 | Kueken | which intercepts the target |
| 14:38.28 | Xapti | yes |
| 14:38.41 | Kueken | now thats the information i needed ;) |
| 14:39.02 | Kueken | the missile does not follow? |
| 14:39.13 | Xapti | no follow gives a behavior i donb't want |
| 14:39.20 | Xapti | or "guidance" it's called |
| 14:39.24 | Kueken | it flies a straight line onto the place where the unit would be |
| 14:39.27 | Xapti | yeah |
| 14:39.33 | Kueken | if it follows its current movement |
| 14:39.35 | Xapti | depending on the units speed and vector |
| 14:39.38 | Xapti | yeah |
| 14:39.44 | Kueken | k |
| 14:39.52 | Kueken | and it should only damage this one unit |
| 14:40.02 | Xapti | yeah |
| 14:40.12 | Kueken | any other unit in the target gets ignored, even on a direct hit |
| 14:40.17 | Xapti | yeah |
| 14:40.20 | Kueken | okay |
| 14:40.28 | Kueken | yes, in this case |
| 14:40.41 | Kueken | I would mark the unit with a behavior via trigger |
| 14:40.56 | Kueken | and add a validator to the damage effect |
| 14:41.08 | Kueken | which checks for this behavior |
| 14:41.35 | Xapti | yeah that sounds good . I might want to make a validator for each player too though, since two players could shoot projectiles at the same time totwo separate targets |
| 14:41.51 | Xapti | but that's not a big issue I suppose... just more annoying manual triggers and such |
| 14:42.26 | Xapti | it's also not too likely that the missed shot of one player will happen to hit the missed target of another player either |
| 14:42.41 | Xapti | so might not bother with it |
| 14:42.58 | Xapti | (with mroe than 1 behavior) |
| 14:43.11 | Kueken | you would also have to care about the time for the behavior |
| 14:43.37 | Kueken | if possible, best would be to remove it from the target on impact of the missile |
| 14:43.42 | Kueken | should be possible somehow |
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| 15:40.55 | Xapti | kueken what maps do you make |
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| 16:04.54 | Vail | yello |
| 16:14.27 | Dekar- | i bet the data editor was made by the xbox live guy too |
| 16:14.41 | Dekar- | piece of useless crap |
| 16:17.44 | Kueken | xapti: currently working on a hero line wars- type map |
| 16:18.00 | Kueken | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/14158-hero-line-wars/ |
| 16:21.59 | Xapti | "At this time, we are not including the StarCraft II Editor as part of the PTR process. There will be no player created maps on PTR." |
| 16:22.12 | Xapti | so why the hell do they give a HUGE ASS list of editor changes for 1.2? |
| 16:22.22 | Xapti | freaking teasing us |
| 16:22.49 | A1win | the system probably wasn't ready ;p |
| 16:23.34 | A1win | you'd rather them delay the PTR patch just to get it working there instead of releasing like this and getting it live soone? :x |
| 16:23.43 | A1win | +r |
| 16:28.31 | Xapti | No i'm wondering why they release the notes |
| 16:28.36 | Xapti | for PRT 1.2 |
| 16:28.46 | Xapti | *PTR, if it's not actually in the PTR |
| 16:29.10 | Vail | here here |
| 16:29.12 | Xapti | they should list the stuff that's actually chagned for testing... |
| 16:29.29 | Xapti | I guess it's nice to know what they are working on though. those editor changes are really niec |
| 16:29.45 | Xapti | but it doesn't make sense to put it along with the other PTR stuff |
| 16:31.08 | Vail | yes |
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| 16:32.51 | Vail | after this patch i will be able to create and import my own buttons and whatnot YAY |
| 16:33.17 | Vail | i didnt before because maps couldnt use mod assets correctly |
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| 16:42.08 | Xapti | yeah i heard that was a bitch to deal with |
| 16:42.15 | Xapti | if you wanted to use custom assets |
| 16:42.41 | Xapti | dammit... why did my torrent from to like 10kb/s download for the last 20 minutes |
| 16:42.51 | Xapti | *drop to |
| 16:43.10 | Xapti | not even uploading much, which is strange |
| 16:45.09 | Xapti | crap the only guy uploading is a person with the same 2. version. |
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| 16:49.21 | RodOfNOD | xapti ptr has 1.2 stuff it just doesnt have it for the editor |
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| 17:09.26 | A1win | cool it's possible to add more zoom levels to the camera |
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| 17:22.32 | Obatztrara | does anyone have time for a short test? :) |
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| 17:24.36 | ThunderLord | Hey doesanyone here know a thing or 2 about smart abilitys? |
| 17:25.33 | ThunderLord | i basicly need to know how to make Move and Attack, Not smart |
| 17:25.43 | ThunderLord | make them stupid lol |
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| 18:01.49 | wOlfLinG | So anyone know if the bnet chat channels are cross region? :) |
| 18:02.05 | Vesuvius | no they're not |
| 18:02.10 | wOlfLinG | :( |
| 18:02.18 | Vesuvius | that would be useful |
| 18:02.20 | Vesuvius | can't have that! |
| 18:02.33 | wOlfLinG | Meh, at least we are getting some :D |
| 18:02.38 | Vesuvius | yeah |
| 18:02.47 | Vesuvius | I'm just pissed they dont let us upload maps to the ptr |
| 18:02.55 | Vesuvius | so we can't use the chat channels effectively yet |
| 18:03.02 | Vesuvius | and the flood protection makes it impossible to talk |
| 18:03.10 | Vesuvius | "next convo in 20s" |
| 18:03.37 | wOlfLinG | :/ |
| 18:03.45 | wOlfLinG | Theres a spam filter in SC2? |
| 18:04.02 | wOlfLinG | Sure WoW needs one, but SC2? Theres nothing to buy! |
| 18:07.43 | RodOfNOD | Vesuvius |
| 18:07.53 | RodOfNOD | if they alllowed u to do that u know what would happen? |
| 18:07.53 | Vesuvius | yesuvius? |
| 18:08.05 | RodOfNOD | u wouldnt be able to make maps that worked onthe regular server |
| 18:08.29 | Vesuvius | why? they could just split the editor |
| 18:08.34 | Vesuvius | like the normal game |
| 18:08.35 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 18:08.40 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 18:08.45 | RodOfNOD | that would be way to many bugs |
| 18:09.11 | RodOfNOD | ur not thinking |
| 18:09.17 | RodOfNOD | as soonas u use 1.2features |
| 18:09.22 | RodOfNOD | ur map wont work on the current server |
| 18:09.32 | RodOfNOD | ie ur dead in the water with the main servr |
| 18:09.52 | Vesuvius | that should be obvious to anyone making maps |
| 18:09.56 | Vesuvius | and its their choice |
| 18:10.00 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 18:10.14 | RodOfNOD | what if they say cahnge their minds |
| 18:10.17 | RodOfNOD | and then break ur newly made map |
| 18:10.36 | Vesuvius | then you have to fix it |
| 18:10.43 | Vesuvius | again, your choice to use test stuff |
| 18:10.54 | RodOfNOD | yes but thats bad precedence |
| 18:11.04 | Vesuvius | it's no different from beta |
| 18:11.05 | RodOfNOD | they madethe right decisionhere |
| 18:11.34 | Vesuvius | i mainly just want to publish my map |
| 18:11.40 | Vesuvius | and use the channels to get people to try it |
| 18:11.49 | RodOfNOD | i understand |
| 18:11.51 | RodOfNOD | it will come |
| 18:12.06 | Vesuvius | obviously, but they're dangling chat channels in front of us like candy |
| 18:12.08 | Vesuvius | it's annoying |
| 18:12.42 | RodOfNOD | trust me they have way more things in 1.2 that i want than u do im sure |
| 18:12.58 | Vesuvius | oh I'm sure |
| 18:13.37 | Vesuvius | but I'm getting impatient |
| 18:13.52 | Vesuvius | I spent like a month shortly after release working on my map |
| 18:13.58 | Vesuvius | and I never get to play it |
| 18:14.24 | Vesuvius | i can't even really improve it because the only thing i can do is theorycraft |
| 18:15.40 | RodOfNOD | why dont u release it? |
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| 18:19.21 | Vesuvius | i did |
| 18:19.23 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 18:19.32 | Vesuvius | i post threads, they get no views |
| 18:19.43 | Vesuvius | eventually got tired of bumping them |
| 18:19.56 | RodOfNOD | yes it can be a pain |
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| 18:36.14 | doite | Hey |
| 18:36.50 | doite | No one is answoring my tread, so im now coming and begging here for someone to help me with a jump ability (TPS) |
| 18:38.48 | Vesuvius | sounds like something you'd want to do with a mover instead of a trigger |
| 18:38.55 | Vesuvius | buti have no idea how to use movers :P |
| 18:39.23 | doite | thats why its in the data editor selection |
| 18:39.47 | doite | I probably need to make it an upgrade, that i give to the unit so he becomes a digger |
| 18:40.02 | doite | So he doesnt jump OVER walls, but can jump over .. sandbags for example |
| 18:40.11 | doite | Though i have no idea of how to do this |
| 18:41.06 | Vesuvius | that's outside of the realm of what I've tried to do with the data editor, you'll have to get someone else to help or just figure it out by experimentation |
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| 18:57.24 | Vail | hmm i have tried searching the site and i cant find anything on using a custom trigger lib |
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| 19:24.08 | doite | Ffs |
| 19:24.20 | doite | I cant make the unit jump over this stupid sandbag |
| 19:24.35 | doite | Ive made an upgrade that is a mover: borrowed |
| 19:26.17 | progammer | try other mover |
| 19:26.25 | progammer | some unit does collide with burrowed |
| 19:29.24 | Vesuvius | anyone want to help me test tower offense? |
| 19:30.49 | Vesuvius | better yet, anyone want to help me come up with a better name than tower offense? |
| 19:30.50 | Vesuvius | :P |
| 19:32.15 | progammer | popularity defense: defend you map from falling off the lists |
| 19:33.47 | ThunderLord | does anyone have any way that i can make the Move command not a smart ability (ie it is not automaticly issued when you right click) or make an ability that has no affect and is smart and activates when you right click the ground or any unit. |
| 19:34.35 | progammer | trigger |
| 19:34.39 | progammer | disable command |
| 19:34.43 | progammer | smart command |
| 19:34.49 | progammer | no right click move or right click attack |
| 19:34.58 | doite | programmer |
| 19:35.02 | doite | it now works |
| 19:35.10 | doite | but i also can jump over walls and stuff |
| 19:35.17 | doite | not JUST the sandbags as i want |
| 19:35.18 | ThunderLord | oh For realz? nice, lemme try it |
| 19:35.26 | progammer | doite: try other mover |
| 19:35.29 | progammer | or make your own |
| 19:36.11 | doite | programmer: i did my own |
| 19:36.12 | doite | FieldJumpMover Pathing ModeDigger |
| 19:36.23 | doite | Still doesnt work, and digger = underground |
| 19:36.25 | doite | i guess.. |
| 19:36.34 | doite | So i shouldnt be able to go above walsl |
| 19:36.43 | progammer | i'm not good with mover so you need to find out more |
| 19:36.54 | progammer | leaern from collosus/ reaper than |
| 19:37.13 | doite | and a collossos cant jump over a wall? |
| 19:37.13 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.20 | doite | "walk over" |
| 19:38.00 | progammer | learn how they can and do the oposite |
| 19:40.09 | ThunderLord | So it let me disable smart commands but i need an ability that does nothing but at the same time, activates with a right click (i am running triggers off of this) |
| 19:43.50 | progammer | then dig into their attack and move abilities |
| 19:47.37 | doite | FieldJumpMover Placement +((Disabled|Disabled|Disabled|Disabled|Disabled|Disabled|Disabled|Disabled|Disabled)|(Disabled|Disabled|Disabled|Disabled|Disabled|Disabled|Disabled|Disabled|Disabled)) |
| 19:47.45 | doite | Trying to set pathing flags |
| 19:47.56 | doite | But its not doing anything for me =( |
| 19:48.11 | A1win | uff I need to do a function to check if a point is within a 3D cone :| |
| 19:48.49 | A1win | and my geometry skills are a bit rusty :I |
| 19:49.09 | Vesuvius | how is the cone defined? |
| 19:49.38 | A1win | need to define it it first based on camera angle and location |
| 19:49.52 | Vesuvius | if you've got the direction vector |
| 19:50.08 | Vesuvius | you're checking if the point is visible on the camera? |
| 19:50.14 | doite | A1win, im still.. trying to make this jump skill.. and ive gotten somewhere, he now jumps, but can jump over anything |
| 19:50.15 | doite | FieldJumpMover Pathing ModeDigger |
| 19:50.21 | A1win | yeah.. or near the focus of the camera |
| 19:50.24 | doite | Is there anyway to proveent this? |
| 19:50.33 | Vesuvius | there must be a better way to do that |
| 19:50.52 | doite | Ive tried to set placemt + (flags) to only ground. and so on |
| 19:50.55 | doite | but doesnt work |
| 19:50.59 | doite | can still jump over walls |
| 19:51.05 | doite | terrian upliften walls |
| 19:51.22 | A1win | the only functions that return current camera values are "current camera pitch", "current camera yaw" and camera target ;p |
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| 19:53.01 | Vesuvius | i'm sure there's a way to achieve that effect by checking if the camera is in the region you want |
| 19:53.28 | A1win | it's with mouse camera look in third person mode |
| 19:53.48 | Vesuvius | oh |
| 19:53.49 | Vesuvius | ok |
| 19:53.54 | Vesuvius | well if you've got the vector |
| 19:54.00 | A1win | top-down would be easy to just check a region around the camera target ;p |
| 19:54.06 | Vesuvius | the camera look direction |
| 19:54.26 | Vesuvius | the cone is going to be defined by some distance along that vector |
| 19:54.28 | Vesuvius | where the base is |
| 19:54.33 | Vesuvius | and an angle |
| 19:54.42 | Vesuvius | assuming a uniform cone |
| 19:54.44 | Vesuvius | though actually |
| 19:54.46 | A1win | mm yeah... |
| 19:54.53 | Vesuvius | that's not what the camera is really doing |
| 19:55.25 | Vesuvius | but basically you want the vector from the point to the camera origin |
| 19:55.29 | Vesuvius | err other way around |
| 19:55.32 | Vesuvius | camera origin to point |
| 19:55.47 | Vesuvius | if its angle with the cone vector is less than the angle of the cone |
| 19:56.05 | Vesuvius | then it is at the right angle to be in the cone |
| 19:56.09 | Vesuvius | but you have to check distance |
| 19:56.27 | Vesuvius | the magnitude of that vector times the cosine of the angle it makes with the cone direction |
| 19:56.34 | Vesuvius | needs to be less than the cone height |
| 19:56.37 | Vesuvius | for it to be in the cone |
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| 19:56.58 | progammer | master league icon : |
| 19:56.59 | progammer | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/10/515/b91d97da5b719ab0ed5aaad07444d104b4ed7325.PNG |
| 19:57.12 | Vesuvius | but if you want a circular bottomed cone you can ignore the cos term |
| 19:57.20 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 19:57.23 | Vesuvius | I'd rather be diamond |
| 19:57.47 | Vesuvius | don't think i have to worry about that though |
| 19:57.54 | doite | FUCKIN AMAZING |
| 19:57.55 | doite | IT WORKS |
| 19:57.59 | Vesuvius | I'm not even good enough to be diamond |
| 19:58.17 | doite | Programmer |
| 19:58.20 | Vesuvius | alwin, the thing with points though is aren't they 2D? |
| 19:58.23 | doite | the right pathing was builder! |
| 19:58.32 | A1win | Vesuvius, there's a "height of point" function |
| 19:58.38 | Vesuvius | ah ok |
| 19:59.07 | Vesuvius | geometry is annoying to work with though |
| 19:59.11 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 19:59.28 | A1win | yeah ;p I can't even comprehend what you just told me <.< |
| 19:59.32 | Vesuvius | and what actually happens with the camera is a viewing frustrum |
| 19:59.33 | Vesuvius | not a cone |
| 19:59.38 | Vesuvius | lol, it was badly explained |
| 19:59.43 | Vesuvius | I didn't use any notation at all :P |
| 19:59.48 | A1win | hehe |
| 20:00.17 | A1win | I don't need an accurate area of the camera view, just a rough targeting for a spell so it checks for units near the center of the camera view |
| 20:01.25 | Vesuvius | might be better off with a data solution |
| 20:01.47 | A1win | how would that work then? ;p |
| 20:02.06 | Vesuvius | like raynor's sniper rifle in the belly of the beast campaign mission |
| 20:02.16 | Vesuvius | or like the hellion flame |
| 20:02.22 | A1win | the problem is that if I turn the camera to face down too much, I might miss some enemies up a cliff or something |
| 20:02.25 | Vesuvius | i'm not sure if you can set a target properly that way |
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| 20:02.53 | Vesuvius | at the very least though you could apply a stub effect to units that get caught in it |
| 20:02.58 | Vesuvius | and detect that |
| 20:03.06 | Vesuvius | in a trigger |
| 20:03.42 | A1win | well I doubt using data editor will help for the pitch problem :X |
| 20:03.59 | Vesuvius | well the effect i'm talking about follows a line out |
| 20:04.11 | Vesuvius | and checks for units in a radius at points along that line |
| 20:04.22 | A1win | mm but it's 2D ;p |
| 20:04.30 | Vesuvius | that's only 2D? :/ |
| 20:04.35 | A1win | probably |
| 20:04.45 | A1win | no reason to make it 3D for RTS |
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| 20:06.19 | Vesuvius | no i think it works |
| 20:06.27 | Vesuvius | the start and end locations are points |
| 20:06.38 | Vesuvius | actually it has to work for hellions to shoot up cliffs |
| 20:06.52 | Vesuvius | it's not a cone though |
| 20:06.57 | Vesuvius | it's more of a pseudo-cylinder |
| 20:07.01 | Vesuvius | and it's a bitch to implement |
| 20:07.04 | A1win | mmf |
| 20:09.08 | ThunderLord | How would i go about making a smart command that activates when you right click the ground? i can only get it to work when you right click a unit |
| 20:10.29 | ThunderLord | any ideas? |
| 20:11.50 | progammer | lol @ Teen.sc2assets |
| 20:12.00 | Vesuvius | ? |
| 20:12.08 | progammer | ThunderLord: your ability need to be target point ? |
| 20:12.19 | progammer | Vesuvius: that was the non violence graphics things |
| 20:12.20 | ThunderLord | yes |
| 20:12.22 | ThunderLord | or unit |
| 20:12.26 | progammer | blackk blood for korean |
| 20:12.27 | Vesuvius | oh lol |
| 20:12.28 | ThunderLord | i based one off of Psi storm |
| 20:12.39 | ThunderLord | but it only activated whjen i right clicked a unit |
| 20:12.50 | progammer | remove move ability on your unit ? |
| 20:13.09 | Vesuvius | you forget the non-smoking terran units |
| 20:13.15 | ThunderLord | do i need to do that? |
| 20:13.16 | Vesuvius | or did they just do that for everyone? |
| 20:13.24 | ThunderLord | will it work after i remove move? ill try it |
| 20:13.55 | progammer | Vesuvius: not sure, this new patch for teen.sc2assets only have 2 file |
| 20:14.05 | progammer | other should be in the game already |
| 20:14.30 | Vesuvius | i am so glad I'm not a teenager anymore |
| 20:14.30 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 20:14.51 | Vesuvius | just a random aside :P |
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| 20:15.34 | progammer | ok I'm digging the panel files now |
| 20:16.40 | Vail | HAH HAH HAH |
| 20:16.59 | Vail | i wonder who was it that wanted to teleport a unit backwards |
| 20:17.07 | Vesuvius | ? |
| 20:17.17 | Vesuvius | teleport a unit backwards |
| 20:17.22 | Vesuvius | ? |
| 20:17.37 | Vail | yes some one wanted an ability to teleport a unit backwards |
| 20:17.51 | Vail | and i just figured it out |
| 20:17.55 | ThunderLord | hummm, yeah it doesnt work only when i right click ground units even when i remove other smart commands |
| 20:18.01 | Vesuvius | what does that even mean? |
| 20:18.32 | Vail | you have a unit facing right and this ability teleports them left four or so spaces |
| 20:18.42 | Vesuvius | ok... |
| 20:19.08 | Vail | ever play CnC Redalert three? |
| 20:19.15 | Vesuvius | no |
| 20:19.22 | Vail | ok never mind then |
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| 20:19.34 | Vesuvius | isnt that just a blink that preserves orientation |
| 20:19.55 | Vail | blink is targeted this is instant with out a target |
| 20:20.16 | Vesuvius | so it uses the rotation and distance to create the target location |
| 20:21.05 | Vesuvius | that seems like a pain to do in data |
| 20:21.06 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 20:21.08 | Vail | it uses a persistant effect that sets the target behind then unit then calls the teleport effect |
| 20:21.15 | Vail | its just two effects |
| 20:21.51 | Vesuvius | i didn't realize you could get any info about unit orientation in the data editor |
| 20:24.02 | Vail | there periodic offsets in the peristent effect are based on unit facing i guess |
| 20:24.31 | Vail | i wonder why i am typoing so much |
| 20:27.57 | wacko | RA3 was crap :P the Japs were OP |
| 20:28.03 | wacko | most unbalanced game ever |
| 20:28.13 | Vail | they were underpowered majorly |
| 20:28.15 | wacko | better than CnC3 though |
| 20:28.29 | wacko | the skrin were buggy as fuck |
| 20:28.32 | wacko | their pathing was horrible |
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| 20:28.39 | Vail | yeah. |
| 20:28.48 | Vesuvius | cnc3 didnt work online for me |
| 20:28.49 | Vail | like they were tacked on at the end |
| 20:29.01 | wacko | CnC4 was horrible as well :P |
| 20:29.20 | wacko | they use gamespy for cnc games now |
| 20:29.20 | Vail | i havent played it |
| 20:29.20 | wacko | don't LOL |
| 20:29.31 | Vesuvius | seriously dont |
| 20:29.36 | Vesuvius | i played the beta a little |
| 20:29.38 | Vesuvius | horrible gam |
| 20:29.41 | Vail | if i want good CnC i will finish my CnC mod for Sc2 |
| 20:29.41 | Vesuvius | game |
| 20:29.51 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 20:30.23 | wacko | RA2 and Generals were my favs |
| 20:30.34 | Vail | Yuris Revenge! |
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| 20:30.54 | wacko | that was a fucked up expansion |
| 20:30.58 | wacko | the Yuri were OP |
| 20:31.02 | Vail | how so? |
| 20:31.44 | wacko | uhh... you could mind control everything LOL and you could recyle enemy units for resources LOL even westwood was like yeea the yuri were a little OP |
| 20:32.01 | Vail | they were after i got ahold of them my YR mod gave yuri a nanomachine controller that healed every infantry and ground vheicle |
| 20:32.48 | wacko | that is one of the major issues I have had with the CnC games is they are not balanced very well.. it seems like once the game comes out they never touch it again |
| 20:33.19 | Vail | puss with Ares i have made a nano infector drone whos gas turns enemy infantry to yoru team |
| 20:33.23 | wacko | other than fix major bugs |
| 20:33.41 | progammer | yo lets bash cnc in this sc2 channel |
| 20:34.25 | wacko | It has some good points.. for example I think cnc does a better job at bringin in new players |
| 20:34.54 | wacko | the game is not as complicated and does not require to you really micro as much as you have to in a game like sc |
| 20:35.11 | Curry|Away | i liked CnC and Tiberian Sun.. the first ones. |
| 20:35.22 | progammer | wacko: if I datamine some layout files, could i learn anything eaerly |
| 20:35.33 | Vail | hey curry.... do you know who wanted a backwards teleport ability? |
| 20:35.49 | Curry|Away | backwards teleport? |
| 20:35.54 | Curry|Away | and no.. i don't recall.. |
| 20:35.54 | wacko | yea you could programmer :P |
| 20:36.04 | Vail | basicly it teleports the unit five spaces backwards ... |
| 20:36.15 | Vail | from the direction they are facing |
| 20:36.16 | Curry|Away | thought so heh |
| 20:36.21 | wacko | you can learn about the different control types etc.. |
| 20:36.36 | progammer | i only see some layout from campaign panel though |
| 20:36.57 | wacko | the goal is that you can layout templates in the SC2Layout files and then apply them to trigger dialogs |
| 20:37.01 | wacko | nah |
| 20:37.07 | wacko | look in the Core mod |
| 20:37.09 | Vail | ok its either nevjmac or dryeyce i think |
| 20:42.19 | Curry|Away | ah no idea, but I need to come up with a psychic lash ability or some sort for my ghost now. |
| 20:42.33 | Curry|Away | or something.. |
| 20:42.40 | Curry|Away | I couldn't think of a way to spice up snipe |
| 20:42.52 | Vail | add a debuff to it |
| 20:43.08 | Curry|Away | Nahh, I have to do more than that. |
| 20:43.10 | Curry|Away | I mean |
| 20:43.17 | Vail | hm |
| 20:43.30 | Curry|Away | I gave fire nova to my firebat, my marine charges and does a bleed debuff, marauder has a super missile now |
| 20:43.44 | Curry|Away | and.. Reaper can jump into the air and barrage a small area with boombs |
| 20:43.49 | Vail | i ceated a machine virus buff that if your aflicted an organic unit and it died from the buff it would sawn an auto turret |
| 20:46.14 | Vail | maybe an airstrike or a mini nuke like ability |
| 20:48.44 | progammer | WTF there is achivements for blizzard custom maps |
| 20:49.00 | progammer | 493=AiurChef_01 494=AiurChef_02 495=AiurChef_03 496=AiurChef_04 497=AiurChef_05 498=Left2Die_01 499=Left2Die_02 500=Left2Die_03 501=Left2Die_04 502=Left2Die_05 503=Left2Die_06 504=Left2Die_07 505=Left2Die_08 506=StarJeweled_01 507=StarJeweled_02 508=StarJeweled_03 509=StarJeweled_04 510=StarJeweled_05 511=StarJeweled_06 512=StarJeweled_07 |
| 20:49.21 | Vail | anything for blizzard dota? |
| 20:50.41 | progammer | that's for sure mean bdota will be pushed later than patch 1.2 |
| 20:50.52 | progammer | and they said that |
| 20:50.57 | Vail | yeah.. |
| 20:51.08 | Vail | im just impatiant for it |
| 20:52.28 | Kueken | they did announce that earlier didnt they? |
| 20:52.36 | Kueken | heh |
| 20:52.45 | Kueken | thats what you meant I guess -.- |
| 20:52.46 | Sixen | Makes sense, progammer :P |
| 20:52.47 | Kueken | nvm |
| 20:52.53 | Sixen | BDotA is like a year off still |
| 20:52.58 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 20:53.02 | Vail | damn |
| 20:53.06 | Kueken | vip speaks again |
| 20:53.11 | Kueken | where the groupies? |
| 20:53.24 | progammer | Sixen: how much heros will they put in if its still 1 year off ? |
| 20:53.31 | Sixen | Not sure :( |
| 20:53.36 | Sixen | I just know they want to get in War3 and SC1 heroes |
| 20:53.40 | Kueken | how many has current dota? ;) |
| 20:53.42 | Kueken | 100+? |
| 20:54.00 | Kueken | they need tu surpass that :D |
| 20:54.24 | Vesuvius | why? |
| 20:54.24 | progammer | that would be too much for a first release |
| 20:54.30 | progammer | i guess 30-40 |
| 20:54.36 | Vesuvius | that's ridiculous |
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| 20:54.42 | Vail | i want those models i need them for heros |
| 20:54.45 | Vesuvius | you shouldn't have so many heroes |
| 20:54.50 | Vesuvius | though the models :P |
| 20:54.54 | progammer | SO MANY DOTA !!! |
| 20:54.59 | progammer | quite artosis |
| 20:55.01 | Vesuvius | it's impossible to keep a group that large diverse and balances |
| 20:55.01 | progammer | quote |
| 20:55.04 | Vesuvius | balanced |
| 20:55.20 | progammer | bunker rush my heart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49LrdiBKu3I |
| 20:55.48 | Vail | i am going to need three more US palyers to test a map... any one interested? |
| 20:56.39 | Vesuvius | what's the map |
| 20:57.13 | Vail | its a bit like a Micro DoTA |
| 20:57.33 | Vesuvius | ok, as long as it isn't a tug |
| 20:57.35 | Vesuvius | or a TD |
| 20:57.36 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 20:57.48 | Vail | tug? |
| 20:57.54 | Vesuvius | like nexus wars |
| 20:57.55 | Vesuvius | :P |
| 20:58.03 | Vail | er never played nexus wars |
| 20:58.11 | Kueken | what exactly specifys a tug game? |
| 20:58.29 | Vesuvius | my understanding is it's a game where you just build production structures |
| 20:58.36 | Kueken | being like nexus wars with making auto unit producing structiures |
| 20:58.39 | Vesuvius | and your units follow a path and fight their units in the middle |
| 20:58.40 | Kueken | and thats all? |
| 20:58.47 | progammer | yay found their official custom map logos |
| 20:58.49 | Vesuvius | so you never do anything |
| 20:58.58 | Vesuvius | at least anything interesting |
| 20:59.10 | progammer | lol Blizzard All Stars |
| 20:59.12 | progammer | as they called |
| 20:59.19 | progammer | i lol so hard right now |
| 20:59.31 | Kueken | try to rofl a little in between |
| 20:59.41 | Kueken | makes the loling easier to handle |
| 20:59.54 | Vail | hm. no this is not like that at all as soon as i can figure out how to use Sweet Zombie Jesus's library i will get my game rolling |
| 20:59.55 | progammer | just hold on i will upload the images |
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| 21:00.06 | Vesuvius | huh |
| 21:00.18 | Kueken | a library as in a script file? |
| 21:00.32 | Vail | the hero selection thing on scmapaster |
| 21:00.49 | Vail | sc2mapster ahe, |
| 21:01.01 | Vesuvius | if i did a game like that |
| 21:01.04 | Vesuvius | i'd be lazy |
| 21:01.05 | Kueken | dunno about that but if its a script file, importing it in import manager and using #include should work fine |
| 21:01.13 | Vesuvius | and have the hero build out of a productions tructure |
| 21:01.23 | Vesuvius | and a pop limit to stop you from getting more than one :P |
| 21:01.49 | Vesuvius | but that's because I hate UI stuff |
| 21:02.08 | Vail | hmm.. |
| 21:02.47 | Vesuvius | i think i need to rename tower offense |
| 21:02.50 | Vesuvius | it's just a boring name |
| 21:02.50 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 21:03.04 | Vail | i just want to implement something quick and easy so players can choose between my two heros that are in prototype phase. |
| 21:03.22 | Vesuvius | quick and easy would be production structure at the spawn point |
| 21:03.43 | Kueken | trigger librarys should be easy to implement as far as I can see it |
| 21:03.49 | Vesuvius | though i don't know how hard it is to use a trigger lib |
| 21:03.57 | Vail | easy if you know how i have no clue .. |
| 21:04.09 | Kueken | just view the libraries in trigger editor |
| 21:04.26 | Kueken | ctrl + shift + L |
| 21:04.36 | Kueken | then right click in the library window |
| 21:04.43 | Kueken | select library -> import library |
| 21:05.06 | Kueken | I never did it actually |
| 21:05.23 | Kueken | just looked and tried to figure out what it could be |
| 21:05.30 | Kueken | sounds reasonable to me at least |
| 21:06.01 | Vail | thanls |
| 21:06.08 | Kueken | does it work? |
| 21:06.21 | Vail | i had know i idea you could right click in that pannel |
| 21:06.29 | Vail | and yes it works fine |
| 21:06.32 | Kueken | neither did I ;) |
| 21:06.44 | Kueken | until a minute ago |
| 21:08.08 | ThunderLord | So you guys know that the Mouse/key button clicked events have a delay on them right? does anyone have any idea on about how long that delay can be (maxamum)? |
| 21:10.25 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Capture.JPG - ah im having fun :> |
| 21:13.23 | Curry|Away | lol |
| 21:13.40 | progammer | RodOfNOD: with this new xml UI all yours might go to waste |
| 21:13.51 | RodOfNOD | nope |
| 21:13.53 | RodOfNOD | there is NO way |
| 21:13.57 | RodOfNOD | theywuill be able to do what im doing |
| 21:13.59 | RodOfNOD | using xml |
| 21:14.06 | progammer | you dont know yet |
| 21:14.07 | progammer | :) |
| 21:14.08 | RodOfNOD | if they can then THAT willbe the biggest thing they ever did |
| 21:14.13 | RodOfNOD | regardless |
| 21:14.15 | progammer | yes they did |
| 21:14.18 | RodOfNOD | u stillhave to code |
| 21:14.23 | RodOfNOD | all the links |
| 21:14.25 | progammer | the intire starjeweled UI |
| 21:14.27 | progammer | entire |
| 21:14.37 | RodOfNOD | so all i will do is use their fancy dialog editor |
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| 21:14.43 | RodOfNOD | and be that much better |
| 21:15.21 | RodOfNOD | ive learned so much doing this part of the project |
| 21:15.32 | RodOfNOD | it will never be a waste because in the end |
| 21:15.42 | RodOfNOD | making this shit happen is hard |
| 21:15.47 | RodOfNOD | cuz of the catalogs |
| 21:17.08 | RodOfNOD | i rather hope they do this new ui shit right but i have my doubts :> |
| 21:18.00 | RodOfNOD | progammer btw i now have clockwise and anticlockwise spin as well as speed controls hehe |
| 21:19.02 | Clord | that minutes played |
| 21:19.07 | Clord | gonna be awesome bumping time |
| 21:19.17 | Vesuvius | should I rename tower offense to "Tower Wars: The Turtle Strikes Back"? |
| 21:19.23 | *** topic/#sc2mapster by Sixen -> http://sc2mapster.com | New Contest Coming Soon(TM) | Patch 1.2 Undocumented Editor Notes: http://bit.ly/f10Wni | We want your broken maps! http://bit.ly/aU9AgC | Join #sc2replayed for SC2Replayed | Idle in #MWE for MilkyWayEditor! |
| 21:20.08 | Vesuvius | really need a less lame name |
| 21:20.09 | Vesuvius | :/ |
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| 21:20.25 | RodOfNOD | did u import turtles from wc3? |
| 21:20.32 | Vesuvius | no |
| 21:20.47 | Vesuvius | it's supposed to be a joke about the empire strikes back |
| 21:20.49 | Vesuvius | and RTS turtles |
| 21:20.56 | Vesuvius | because they always tower up their base |
| 21:20.57 | Vesuvius | :P |
| 21:21.18 | Kueken | should give siege tanks a turtle model |
| 21:21.54 | Vesuvius | some of my testers suggested "Phoenix Tower Assault" at some point |
| 21:21.59 | Vesuvius | but that sounds too juvenile |
| 21:22.00 | Vesuvius | :/ |
| 21:22.35 | Kueken | reminds me of "flower tower power" |
| 21:22.42 | Kueken | a wc3 custom map |
| 21:22.51 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 21:23.03 | Vesuvius | that also sounds juvenile :P |
| 21:23.15 | Kueken | you think so? |
| 21:23.17 | Kueken | no way |
| 21:23.19 | Kueken | ! |
| 21:23.34 | progammer | image uploaded http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/editor-bugs-and-feedback/15553-info-patch-1-2-ptr-undocumented-editor-changes/ |
| 21:23.44 | Kueken | the towers were all pink or turquoise and throw flowers xD |
| 21:24.23 | Kueken | official pictures? xD |
| 21:24.31 | Kueken | they look like jokes |
| 21:24.42 | Kueken | well |
| 21:24.55 | Kueken | blizzard likes a little self-parody it seems |
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| 21:26.06 | Kueken | btw |
| 21:26.13 | Kueken | what does data mining mean? |
| 21:26.26 | Kueken | not familiar with that term, but it seems quite common |
| 21:28.39 | RodOfNOD | means drawing out the important data u are looking for out of all the crap |
| 21:29.27 | progammer | open their mpq archive and take everything out |
| 21:29.36 | progammer | from images, xml, to even game code |
| 21:29.45 | Kueken | sounds fun xD |
| 21:30.01 | Kueken | so lock down gets a new model? |
| 21:30.13 | moshewe | progammer! |
| 21:30.29 | moshewe | is there any way on EARTH to write plain galaxy and use it in the Editor?? |
| 21:30.34 | Kueken | sure |
| 21:30.37 | progammer | i found the old lock down, nevermind |
| 21:30.40 | Kueken | create a custom script |
| 21:30.42 | progammer | moshewe: yes you can |
| 21:30.54 | Kueken | just like creating a trigger |
| 21:31.02 | progammer | write it in notepad and copy |
| 21:31.06 | progammer | in the editor remove all trigger |
| 21:31.17 | progammer | add custom script at the highest level |
| 21:31.23 | progammer | that's the simplest |
| 21:31.28 | Kueken | also note |
| 21:31.34 | Kueken | 1 gui trigger must remain |
| 21:31.36 | moshewe | ok, but pasting long scripts will take ages |
| 21:31.43 | Kueken | otherwise the compiler seems to fail |
| 21:31.49 | moshewe | lol? |
| 21:32.05 | Kueken | the trigger does not have to do anything |
| 21:32.13 | Kueken | but it has to be there apparently |
| 21:32.25 | Kueken | dunno why |
| 21:32.27 | moshewe | well, didn't you look at the generated script to find oiut why? |
| 21:32.29 | moshewe | out* |
| 21:32.34 | Kueken | could be the includes, I guess |
| 21:32.35 | RodOfNOD | if thats true its to stoppeople from trashing their gui triggers |
| 21:32.42 | moshewe | T_T |
| 21:32.46 | Kueken | if it is the includes |
| 21:32.54 | progammer | moshewe: then use mpq archive to replace it with the game script file |
| 21:32.57 | Kueken | you can manually include |
| 21:32.59 | progammer | save it as smt.galaxy |
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| 21:33.09 | progammer | actually its script.galaxy |
| 21:33.11 | progammer | or smt |
| 21:33.14 | Kueken | then you can screw the gui trigger |
| 21:33.22 | Kueken | gonna try that, mom |
| 21:34.11 | moshewe | do yo uthink that if i ask blizz nicely for a simple galaxy compiler |
| 21:34.17 | moshewe | they will oblige? |
| 21:34.38 | progammer | they already planned |
| 21:34.54 | RodOfNOD | whywould u want a simple galaxy compiler |
| 21:34.57 | RodOfNOD | we alreadyhave that |
| 21:35.04 | progammer | notepad ? |
| 21:35.07 | RodOfNOD | we want areally fully functioning editor andcompiler |
| 21:35.11 | progammer | btw check the assets section |
| 21:35.17 | RodOfNOD | i use ultraedit myself works great |
| 21:35.26 | progammer | we have several galaxy script program |
| 21:35.33 | progammer | with grammar etc... |
| 21:36.11 | moshewe | well |
| 21:36.15 | moshewe | i use emacs for editing code |
| 21:36.25 | moshewe | i just want to run a compiler that will turn my code into a valid map, that's all |
| 21:36.26 | moshewe | :/ |
| 21:36.39 | moshewe | i'm tired of all these "solutions" that bind you to a single environment |
| 21:37.06 | Kueken | did the code inject thing not work? |
| 21:37.38 | Kueken | you could have a look at how andromeda handles things |
| 21:37.41 | moshewe | replacing the mapscript via mpq editor? |
| 21:37.42 | moshewe | doesn't work |
| 21:37.48 | moshewe | andromeda is java |
| 21:37.48 | Kueken | it injects code directly in the map script |
| 21:37.50 | moshewe | java is bad |
| 21:38.02 | Kueken | i dont say write in andromeda |
| 21:38.08 | Kueken | just look up the method |
| 21:38.19 | Kueken | and use it yourself |
| 21:38.21 | moshewe | yeah well |
| 21:38.24 | moshewe | i might :/ |
| 21:38.34 | Kueken | andromeda directly modifies the map script as far as i know |
| 21:39.20 | Kueken | but I am surprised it does'nt work like you tried already |
| 21:39.28 | moshewe | tell me about it |
| 21:39.31 | moshewe | frustrating |
| 21:39.42 | moshewe | btw, you can't declare an array of a variable size |
| 21:39.54 | moshewe | no matter how determenistic the size of the array should be at time of declaration |
| 21:43.05 | RodOfNOD | whydoes it matter moshewe |
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| 21:49.34 | Kueken | moshewe: I just tried injecting a map script and it turned out to work perfectly |
| 21:52.15 | RodOfNOD | yes but can u upload it as a map to bnet Kueken? |
| 21:53.19 | ThunderLord | is it possible to make it impossible to select units that you do not control? |
| 21:54.36 | Curry|Away | yes |
| 21:54.47 | Curry|Away | unit flag: unselectable |
| 21:54.50 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 21:54.52 | RodOfNOD | he means |
| 21:55.01 | RodOfNOD | that other players can still select them i think |
| 21:55.03 | RodOfNOD | if they own them |
| 21:55.13 | Curry|Away | probably not then. |
| 21:55.15 | ThunderLord | yeah, if own that unit you can select it |
| 21:55.26 | Curry|Away | well |
| 21:55.29 | RodOfNOD | u could just unselect the unit |
| 21:55.30 | Curry|Away | you could do it with a trigger |
| 21:55.32 | RodOfNOD | when its selected |
| 21:55.34 | ThunderLord | Well that is inconvienant |
| 21:55.35 | RodOfNOD | but its stillugly shit |
| 21:55.42 | RodOfNOD | welcome to blizzards world |
| 21:55.57 | ThunderLord | Is there a way to make it not look terribad when that happins? |
| 21:55.59 | ThunderLord | UGH |
| 21:56.21 | ThunderLord | well this is going to take a few hours |
| 21:56.32 | Curry|Away | why's that? |
| 21:57.47 | ThunderLord | wel |
| 21:58.10 | ThunderLord | i have a 3rd person game right? and when you click on a unit it sets a variable as your "Target" |
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| 21:58.23 | ThunderLord | and you have to be able to set allys and enemys as your target |
| 21:58.36 | ThunderLord | and to send commands to your player he has to be selected |
| 21:59.27 | ThunderLord | so i have to make a unit that you keep selected and you send commands to that unit witch via triggers sends commands to your player, and make all unit Nonselectable |
| 21:59.35 | progammer_ | wait i can open an galaxy file with a script editor |
| 21:59.36 | ThunderLord | and do everything through Unit Clicked events |
| 21:59.40 | Curry|Away | well if you have to set enemies as your target, why do you want them unselectable |
| 21:59.44 | progammer_ | and it has export function |
| 22:00.00 | ThunderLord | i want it so they are clickable |
| 22:00.04 | ThunderLord | the problem is your allys |
| 22:00.31 | RodOfNOD | well if someone besides u clicks on the unit u just ignore the click |
| 22:01.34 | ThunderLord | people's Players must be selectable so you can command them, and when you click them to set your "Target" var i cannot have them being selected because that makes the command card look suck-ish |
| 22:01.54 | ThunderLord | how can i ignore the click? |
| 22:04.04 | RodOfNOD | not following ur problem |
| 22:04.10 | RodOfNOD | can u take a picture of suckish? |
| 22:04.18 | ThunderLord | okay |
| 22:04.32 | ThunderLord | So its a 3rd person game where you control a single player |
| 22:04.46 | ThunderLord | you use abilitys via dialog buttons |
| 22:04.51 | ThunderLord | that command you to use abilitys |
| 22:05.04 | ThunderLord | on the unit set to a "Target" variable |
| 22:05.12 | ThunderLord | the problem comes in assigning the varable |
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| 22:05.27 | ThunderLord | to change your target i need some sort of clicking event |
| 22:05.59 | ThunderLord | when you click a unit it selects that unit |
| 22:06.43 | ThunderLord | and i need the each players's unit to always be selected for the command card |
| 22:06.55 | ThunderLord | so i can make all enemy units on the map non-selectable |
| 22:06.58 | ThunderLord | but |
| 22:07.18 | ThunderLord | when you have to make your target one of your allys, another player's unit |
| 22:07.26 | ThunderLord | if you click them, it selects them |
| 22:07.35 | ThunderLord | but i cannot make the player's non-selectalbe |
| 22:07.48 | ThunderLord | because you need to send commands to the units via command card |
| 22:08.10 | RodOfNOD | well to myknowledgeu cant stop that selection |
| 22:08.19 | RodOfNOD | so u can either a) trigger a deselect reselect |
| 22:08.25 | RodOfNOD | or b do it adifferent way completely |
| 22:08.50 | ThunderLord | yeah the de/re selects makes your command card fade and restore witch is non-professional |
| 22:09.02 | ThunderLord | so my solution (witch will take forever) |
| 22:09.24 | ThunderLord | is go ahead and make the player units non-selectable and then check the clickable flag |
| 22:09.47 | ThunderLord | and make it so that you issue all orders to your players through a dummy unit that is somewhere off the map |
| 22:10.19 | RodOfNOD | well if u give all orders via dialog |
| 22:10.25 | RodOfNOD | why are u showing the command card at all? |
| 22:11.02 | ThunderLord | Well |
| 22:11.04 | ThunderLord | you see |
| 22:11.07 | ThunderLord | the thunderlord is fancy |
| 22:11.49 | ThunderLord | and he is not going to have ANY delay on his WASD movement, so the units have 4 abilitys tied to hotkeys WASD to eleminate the "key pressed" event delay |
| 22:12.41 | RodOfNOD | ok butim asking u wahy u are SHOWING it |
| 22:12.45 | RodOfNOD | why dont u cover itup |
| 22:12.47 | RodOfNOD | with a dialog |
| 22:13.26 | RodOfNOD | and btw i get fancy cuz im the same way :> |
| 22:13.33 | ThunderLord | i thought about doing that |
| 22:14.03 | ThunderLord | i covered up everything except the minimap and the command card |
| 22:14.25 | ThunderLord | there is a little hole for those 2 |
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| 22:14.43 | ThunderLord | but i kinda like the command card showing, there are some buttons there on the card |
| 22:14.44 | ThunderLord | such as |
| 22:14.55 | ThunderLord | a button to open up tallent tree dialogs |
| 22:15.48 | ThunderLord | i would also i need to put buttons there to make it so you are not able to press through it |
| 22:15.51 | ThunderLord | humm |
| 22:15.57 | ThunderLord | but i guess i could cover it |
| 22:16.02 | ThunderLord | but |
| 22:16.34 | ThunderLord | hummm, i wonder witch way i should do it |
| 22:19.01 | progammer_ | updated news folks http://www.sc2mapster.com/ |
| 22:19.06 | RodOfNOD | if i was u i wouild make ALL units unselectable, ibelieve u can trigger based select an unselectable unit but ud have to test but regardless u put the unitthat has the commands with no model and always have it near where ur viewing |
| 22:19.39 | Bibendus | the new models |
| 22:19.40 | Bibendus | suck |
| 22:19.43 | Bibendus | progammer :D |
| 22:20.12 | progammer_ | yeah i just take whatever i found |
| 22:20.18 | Bibendus | only 4 modelz? |
| 22:21.01 | progammer_ | some more |
| 22:21.10 | progammer_ | but doodads and campaign unit fixes |
| 22:21.11 | progammer_ | i think |
| 22:21.18 | Bibendus | :O? |
| 22:21.19 | RodOfNOD | Join join sc2mapster channel if you're on PTR |
| 22:21.24 | RodOfNOD | spelling progammer_ ^ |
| 22:23.03 | progammer_ | RodOfNOD: done |
| 22:23.11 | Bibendus | :O |
| 22:23.51 | progammer_ | i still lol @ blizzard all stars |
| 22:24.43 | ThunderLord | ... |
| 22:24.45 | ThunderLord | Rod |
| 22:24.48 | ThunderLord | ur smart |
| 22:24.53 | ThunderLord | i was able to make it work |
| 22:25.01 | RodOfNOD | lol nice |
| 22:25.06 | RodOfNOD | glad it worked for u |
| 22:25.08 | ThunderLord | you trigger select your player at initialization |
| 22:25.11 | ThunderLord | and then |
| 22:25.13 | ThunderLord | 1 second late |
| 22:25.19 | ThunderLord | i can turn off the selectable flag |
| 22:25.25 | RodOfNOD | nice |
| 22:25.27 | ThunderLord | Absolutely perfect |
| 22:25.31 | ThunderLord | You win a cookie |
| 22:25.38 | RodOfNOD | eats his cookie |
| 22:27.30 | ThunderLord | Thanks a ton, You just saved me like 2 hrs of work now and who knows how much time i would spend writing triggers for every command sent to the player must be sent via another unit's command |
| 22:28.00 | RodOfNOD | HEHE |
| 22:28.08 | RodOfNOD | np glad to help |
| 22:28.11 | RodOfNOD | FOOD TIME |
| 22:29.10 | A1win | can you make the ability-wasd use 8 directions? |
| 22:29.42 | A1win | or make it turn with a and d instead of strafe? |
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| 22:53.10 | Bibendus | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 22:59.18 | Phaos | anyone worked out how to get at the PTR editor changes yet ? |
| 22:59.38 | nevjmac | you can't |
| 22:59.43 | nevjmac | afaik |
| 22:59.48 | nevjmac | those arn't open till patch |
| 23:00.00 | Phaos | *rages with the fury of a thousand firey suns* |
| 23:00.04 | nevjmac | lol |
| 23:02.15 | Phaos | have blizz taken note of the angst toward the spam filter in private channels yet ? |
| 23:02.32 | progammer_ | they are still busy fix bugs where ppl cant log in to ptr |
| 23:02.44 | Phaos | o i c |
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| 23:06.05 | Doom | hello\ |
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| 23:07.01 | Doom | hey guys do you know how to make the loading screen load my custom pic |
| 23:07.02 | Doom | ? |
| 23:07.25 | Doom | when i click brwose it says assets |
| 23:07.30 | Phaos | why is there so many threads with so many posts that are always either two things. fungal growth "nerf" or "holding down button larva spawning" |
| 23:08.53 | Doom | who here has published a map? |
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| 23:09.33 | RodOfNOD | cuz people that play melee like those Phaos |
| 23:09.38 | RodOfNOD | i have doom |
| 23:09.43 | Doom | hey rod |
| 23:09.53 | RodOfNOD | have u imported ur picture andsaved ur map? |
| 23:10.01 | Doom | yeah |
| 23:10.08 | Doom | i imported it with f9 |
| 23:10.18 | Doom | then i saved it |
| 23:10.22 | Doom | t.t |
| 23:10.41 | Phaos | I gather that. but there is such a thing as finding previous threads about it |
| 23:10.44 | RodOfNOD | have u gone to map properties? |
| 23:10.51 | RodOfNOD | agreed Phaos |
| 23:10.55 | Phaos | forum etiquite! get some. |
| 23:10.56 | RodOfNOD | there is no accounting for being dumb |
| 23:11.09 | Phaos | xD |
| 23:11.27 | Doom | lol |
| 23:15.48 | Doom | when i click browse it says assets, editordata , minimap.tga |
| 23:16.00 | Vesuvius | people are really pissed about it phaos |
| 23:16.01 | Doom | it dont say my image name |
| 23:16.05 | Doom | xD |
| 23:16.21 | Vesuvius | i don't think they care at this point about manners |
| 23:16.45 | Phaos | meh |
| 23:16.49 | RodOfNOD | where did u import it doom? |
| 23:16.53 | RodOfNOD | whatpath |
| 23:16.59 | Phaos | who cares about meele in this forum geeeeez XD |
| 23:17.08 | Vesuvius | and actually i think having lots of threads on it might have more of an impact on blizzard |
| 23:17.18 | Vesuvius | because both those changes suck |
| 23:17.44 | Doom | i did import |
| 23:17.47 | Doom | 1 sec |
| 23:18.05 | RodOfNOD | i know im asking what path did u use |
| 23:18.12 | RodOfNOD | alsotry exiting the editor and reloading |
| 23:19.24 | Doom | what path should i use |
| 23:19.26 | Doom | ? |
| 23:19.27 | RodOfNOD | look a the tooltip and tell me if thats obvious what it does |
| 23:19.28 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Screenshot2010-12-04%2015_18_26.jpg |
| 23:19.32 | RodOfNOD | doesntmatter im asking u a ? |
| 23:20.14 | Doom | i dont have a path |
| 23:20.15 | Doom | xD |
| 23:20.23 | RodOfNOD | ok so it should be visible then |
| 23:20.26 | RodOfNOD | did u exit the editor? |
| 23:20.33 | Doom | yeah |
| 23:20.38 | RodOfNOD | still cant see it? |
| 23:20.42 | Doom | then i rentered it |
| 23:20.49 | Doom | nope |
| 23:20.52 | RodOfNOD | weird |
| 23:20.54 | RodOfNOD | is it a dds? |
| 23:20.59 | Doom | no |
| 23:21.02 | Doom | lol |
| 23:21.02 | RodOfNOD | ok thats ur problem |
| 23:21.04 | RodOfNOD | make it adds |
| 23:21.12 | Doom | its a jpg |
| 23:21.15 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 23:21.16 | RodOfNOD | make it a dds |
| 23:21.18 | Doom | so change the name |
| 23:21.19 | Doom | ? |
| 23:21.21 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 23:21.25 | RodOfNOD | uhave to save it as a dds |
| 23:21.35 | RodOfNOD | do u have that ability? |
| 23:21.39 | Doom | how? |
| 23:21.44 | A1win | tga should work too |
| 23:21.46 | RodOfNOD | photoshop |
| 23:21.50 | Doom | lol |
| 23:21.53 | RodOfNOD | maybe A1win |
| 23:21.55 | Doom | i dont have that |
| 23:21.55 | RodOfNOD | not sure if that will |
| 23:22.00 | RodOfNOD | ok send me the picture |
| 23:22.02 | A1win | someone said it does ;p |
| 23:22.03 | Doom | lol |
| 23:22.04 | RodOfNOD | ill make it a dds for u |
| 23:22.08 | Doom | kk |
| 23:22.19 | RodOfNOD | use DROP BOX |
| 23:22.23 | RodOfNOD | its helpful :> |
| 23:22.29 | RodOfNOD | and no spam |
| 23:22.32 | Doom | kk |
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| 23:23.41 | RodOfNOD | anways did u guys look at my link |
| 23:23.49 | RodOfNOD | and can u tell thats a small yet functional slider bar? |
| 23:23.50 | Doom | http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://anime-wallpapers.com/images/800x600/sasuke-and-naruto-dark.jpg&imgrefurl=http://anime-wallpapers.com/naruto/sasuke-and-naruto-dark.html&usg=__8ImAjZhW32FEcZBW4N2qUCwz9Fo=&h=600&w=800&sz=282&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=NCZ7OAGVqQHmiM:&tbnh=137&tbnw=182&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnaruto%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D585%26tbs%3 |
| 23:23.59 | Phaos | whaaat ? |
| 23:24.02 | Doom | lol |
| 23:24.05 | Doom | click it |
| 23:24.13 | Phaos | use goo.gl geez :P |
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| 23:25.43 | RodOfNOD | Doom http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/sasuke-and-naruto-dark.dds |
| 23:25.44 | Stewox | 1.2 PATCH EUROPE ???? |
| 23:25.48 | RodOfNOD | its bigger though |
| 23:26.01 | RodOfNOD | real patch Stewox or the PTR one? |
| 23:26.13 | Stewox | well , hope just anything |
| 23:26.20 | Doom | thanks rod |
| 23:26.24 | Stewox | i was in the SC2 beta |
| 23:26.29 | Doom | but can u do 1 more? |
| 23:26.30 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Screenshot2010-12-04%2015_18_26.jpg - is that understandable? |
| 23:26.42 | Doom | http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x0WyKPmlk7U/TCxsdGIgQ5I/AAAAAAAAB8Q/QlGlyWlTwBk/s640/Naruto%2B500.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.networkedblogs.com/blog/naruto_naruto_shippuden_anime_manga_updates/&usg=__6cie-AWnbQPGojhPSvL2QpNhzvg=&h=365&w=355&sz=26&hl=en&start=133&zoom=1&tbnid=nJkwM_Bh7kWzjM:&tbnh=144&tbnw=155&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnaruto%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en- |
| 23:26.49 | RodOfNOD | u realize that if this is copyrighted work doom ur map can get munched right? |
| 23:27.03 | Stewox | where do i get PRT |
| 23:27.09 | Doom | ima leave ciritit |
| 23:27.10 | Stewox | auto patcher ? |
| 23:27.18 | Stewox | cause im in editor and nothing yet |
| 23:27.21 | Doom | i wont say i made the picas |
| 23:27.23 | Doom | xD |
| 23:27.31 | Stewox | actually i have a question |
| 23:27.47 | progammer_ | please dont post *** long links from google search |
| 23:27.54 | progammer_ | take the image url directly |
| 23:27.58 | Stewox | is it possible to increase or edit lava levels in tosh map |
| 23:28.08 | Phaos | or use goo.gl |
| 23:28.09 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Naruto_500.dds Doom |
| 23:28.19 | Phaos | eriously. long url = Goo.gl it |
| 23:28.23 | Doom | thanks |
| 23:28.25 | Doom | rod' |
| 23:28.30 | RodOfNOD | np |
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| 23:29.01 | Doom | lol |
| 23:29.01 | ThunderLord | Anyone know whay they would remove Flux Veins for void rays? |
| 23:29.03 | RodOfNOD | why will noone answer my simple ? |
| 23:29.03 | Doom | rod ur epic |
| 23:29.23 | RodOfNOD | >:-} |
| 23:30.59 | Phaos | remember to leave full credit a "this is not mine" won't cut it according to the TOS unfortunately |
| 23:34.31 | Stewox | i think void rays were too good |
| 23:34.37 | Stewox | not impossible to counter by pros |
| 23:34.40 | Phaos | agreeed |
| 23:34.56 | Stewox | but simply it was meant to be support unit for structures , kind of artillery/siege |
| 23:35.10 | Stewox | but it was massed so much it was not beatable with it's agility |
| 23:35.45 | Stewox | so i think as per idea of a void ray and the whole lore and the whole design it looks to me more of an indeed heavy support unit from behind |
| 23:35.47 | Phaos | air superiority version of the seigetank rush. which is just better because well.. it's air superiority |
| 23:36.10 | progammer_ | i need air siege tank for toss |
| 23:36.13 | progammer_ | hit air only |
| 23:36.15 | progammer_ | range 13 |
| 23:36.28 | Phaos | pow |
| 23:36.28 | progammer_ | that would own viking |
| 23:37.17 | Stewox | with agility of flux vanes which i actually never realized until now (realized it has such big impact) it was making this support unit into a rampaging fortress , as much as i love void ray which is such a cool unit i think that removal of an upgrade (as little as sc2 has them) is painfull to watch but again , justified |
| 23:37.45 | progammer_ | not only it remove the upgrade, it remove the value of fleet beacon |
| 23:37.53 | progammer_ | which should be made cheaper :P |
| 23:38.10 | Phaos | exactly. the concept of the voidd ray was always that it was seige support. but flux veins turned into into a shock trooper roll |
| 23:38.27 | Phaos | it into* |
| 23:38.41 | Stewox | indeed |
| 23:38.51 | Stewox | you know about the Corruptors corrupt ability |
| 23:38.55 | Stewox | ? |
| 23:39.02 | Vesuvius | they should make the mothership not stupid |
| 23:39.14 | Phaos | nothing wrong with the mothership |
| 23:39.17 | progammer_ | mothership are pretty good pvp |
| 23:39.28 | progammer_ | when you dont want to fight war of the world |
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| 23:39.37 | Phaos | if your going to use the mothership you make that decision from the beginning of the match |
| 23:39.41 | wOlfLinG | Mothership rush can be good |
| 23:40.03 | Phaos | the mothership is part of an overall build. not a counter or anything else |
| 23:40.22 | Vesuvius | that build is a joke |
| 23:40.35 | wOlfLinG | Motherships can be really good |
| 23:40.43 | progammer_ | it cloaks |
| 23:40.44 | wOlfLinG | Hidden tech, go starport/ gateway build |
| 23:40.45 | Vesuvius | vortex + archons is good |
| 23:40.49 | Phaos | you need to know how to use your CCs |
| 23:40.51 | progammer_ | very good with PVT |
| 23:40.58 | wOlfLinG | Get a mothership out and recall unit's into thier base :) |
| 23:40.59 | progammer_ | when you can snipe the other obs |
| 23:41.03 | RodOfNOD | motherships are such a joke and basically a hero unit that is worthelss |
| 23:41.04 | progammer_ | but obs are getting cheaper now |
| 23:41.10 | progammer_ | so i'm not sure |
| 23:41.12 | Vesuvius | the cloak doesn't matter |
| 23:41.14 | Vesuvius | because it's so slow |
| 23:41.15 | wOlfLinG | Step 1) Attack an expo. 2) Recall into enemys base when they go to defend it :D |
| 23:41.18 | Vesuvius | and so late |
| 23:41.23 | Vesuvius | they should have detection by them |
| 23:41.30 | RodOfNOD | they should have just modified the arbiters |
| 23:41.44 | Vesuvius | it cant' escape from anything |
| 23:41.51 | Stewox | mothership needs something ... something that makes it mothership , atleast a power field |
| 23:42.01 | Vesuvius | so the cloak ends up being temporary |
| 23:42.05 | Vesuvius | because it just goes down |
| 23:42.22 | Vesuvius | the spells can be useful, but they hardly justify the cost |
| 23:42.52 | Doom | hey rod |
| 23:42.54 | Doom | lol |
| 23:42.54 | RodOfNOD | if motherships had shield regens THAT would make it a MOTHER SHIP |
| 23:42.56 | Stewox | mothership should have an switchable cloack ability from what you have now , switching to disabling this radus cloak into cloacking the mothership itself instead |
| 23:43.00 | Doom | ur gunna kill me but |
| 23:43.05 | Doom | http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://free.desktopwallpaper.org/bulkupload/4/Naruto/naruto-38.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.desktopwallpaper.org/wallpaper/naruto-38/&usg=__luCNY4wxZ5EdzWclyPgJmkAFV2g=&h=1200&w=1600&sz=716&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=So1FTewtXsq8JM:&tbnh=151&tbnw=187&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnaruto%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D585%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C |
| 23:43.07 | Doom | lol |
| 23:43.09 | Doom | plz |
| 23:43.16 | Vesuvius | ... |
| 23:43.25 | Vesuvius | they just told you not to do urls like that |
| 23:43.26 | Vesuvius | lol |
| 23:43.47 | Doom | this way ill have a small preview a big preview and a loading screen pic |
| 23:43.48 | Vesuvius | a cloak toggle would be neat |
| 23:43.59 | Vesuvius | probably not enough though |
| 23:44.07 | Vesuvius | and everyone would want the MS itself cloaked |
| 23:44.11 | Vesuvius | instead of all the units |
| 23:45.01 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Naruto_500.dds Doom that file is entirely to big |
| 23:45.07 | RodOfNOD | u would need to have me squash it to use it |
| 23:45.14 | Doom | can u |
| 23:45.15 | Doom | ? |
| 23:45.17 | Doom | lol |
| 23:45.20 | RodOfNOD | u will lose quality |
| 23:45.22 | RodOfNOD | but sure |
| 23:45.26 | Doom | thats ok |
| 23:45.27 | RodOfNOD | seriously a shield battery |
| 23:45.31 | RodOfNOD | is what the mothership needs |
| 23:45.55 | Dustin|Laptop | :O |
| 23:45.58 | Dustin|Laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.06 | Dustin|Laptop | Best day ever |
| 23:46.35 | Doom | but that editor is temparoy |
| 23:46.36 | Doom | XD |
| 23:46.57 | Doom | will maps made with the pubic test work with sc 2\ |
| 23:47.08 | Vesuvius | huh |
| 23:47.08 | Doom | is the qustion |
| 23:47.09 | Doom | XD |
| 23:47.14 | Vesuvius | you can't even get the editor yet |
| 23:47.14 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/naruto-38.dds |
| 23:47.17 | Vesuvius | can you? |
| 23:47.23 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/naruto-38smaller.dds |
| 23:47.24 | Doom | lol |
| 23:47.40 | RodOfNOD | u cantmake maps |
| 23:47.45 | RodOfNOD | that work on the PTR |
| 23:47.53 | Doom | thanks rod |
| 23:47.56 | Doom | <3 |
| 23:48.01 | Doom | anyway |
| 23:48.41 | Doom | so are the updates for the map editor for the already reased editor |
| 23:48.44 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Screenshot2010-12-04%2015_18_26.jpg - is the tooltip on the RIGHT side clear? do u get thats a slider to change the rotation speed of the model? |
| 23:48.58 | RodOfNOD | there are currently no map editor updattes doom |
| 23:49.00 | RodOfNOD | only for PTR |
| 23:49.07 | Doom | t.t |
| 23:49.09 | Doom | lol |
| 23:49.11 | Vesuvius | they haven't released anything at all |
| 23:49.18 | Vesuvius | except the sc2 client for ptr |
| 23:49.26 | Vesuvius | we're not oging to get map stuff until 1.2 |
| 23:49.33 | Vesuvius | fromthe looks of it |
| 23:49.43 | Doom | and rod the words are clear |
| 23:49.56 | RodOfNOD | its just a TINY slide bar |
| 23:50.00 | Doom | but i cant see though it |
| 23:50.01 | RodOfNOD | but i dont really want to put it anywhere else |
| 23:50.02 | Doom | xD |
| 23:50.23 | RodOfNOD | its a tooltip |
| 23:50.23 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 23:51.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster liq3 (~liquidman@ppp118-209-59-57.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) |
| 23:51.04 | RodOfNOD | here is the tooltip above that one |
| 23:51.04 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Screenshot2010-12-04%2015_50_33.jpg |
| 23:52.54 | Dustin|Laptop | ⢠New trigger event: Mouse Moved, sent in response to the mouse being moved in the game world. |
| 23:53.04 | Dustin|Laptop | Is that giving us mouse hover detection? |
| 23:59.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster Victiln (~Fartsalot@0x5552cda6.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
