| 00:08.37 | Vail | i think i have found a HUGE bug |
| 00:08.53 | Vail | well maybe not huge but game breaking for me |
| 00:16.21 | nevjmac | So I have managed to duplicate the spine crawler and have the spinecrawler tentacle attack, but the pre animations just before it launches (like when it aquires its target) is not working, instead the tentacle just launches into an attack and on its way back jumps back into its upright position... any ideas? |
| 00:17.59 | Vail | check your actors? |
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| 00:18.10 | nevjmac | gone through all of them I can't see any difference |
| 00:18.35 | Vail | is the copy and the original calling the same attack actor? |
| 00:19.16 | nevjmac | You may have just pointed something out, but they all have seperate actors |
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| 00:20.11 | nevjmac | why can I not adjust the parent value of my attack actor |
| 00:20.14 | Vail | i am unsure about the spine crawler but if units share a projectile it can get funky |
| 00:20.44 | nevjmac | they have their own projectiles also |
| 00:20.55 | Vail | hm |
| 00:20.57 | nevjmac | I have the original placed against my copies |
| 00:21.01 | nevjmac | and it doesn't look right lol |
| 00:21.23 | Vail | i see |
| 00:22.09 | Vail | did you know that disabling an attribute does not remove the bonus it gives |
| 00:22.46 | nevjmac | really o.O |
| 00:22.50 | nevjmac | kinda defeats the purpose |
| 00:23.46 | nevjmac | ty vail :P you brought something to my attention I did not see before |
| 00:23.47 | nevjmac | now they work |
| 00:24.03 | Vail | yw. |
| 00:24.11 | Vail | and yeah |
| 00:24.14 | nevjmac | btw if your ever wanting to duplicate spine crawlers... don't |
| 00:24.15 | nevjmac | LOL |
| 00:24.22 | Vail | heh |
| 00:24.32 | nevjmac | they are horrible... |
| 00:24.37 | Vail | i may make a spine crawler hero >..> NOT |
| 00:24.43 | nevjmac | hah |
| 00:24.52 | nevjmac | did you still want your map tested online, sorry about yesterday |
| 00:26.58 | Vail | yes in abit i am testing some requirements to remove atributes |
| 00:27.26 | nevjmac | no probs... lol I have a force effect taht lifts buildings >.< oops |
| 00:27.55 | Vail | ok requirements can kill an atribute and remove its stat bonus cool.. |
| 00:29.33 | Vail | let me know if you would like to give that map ago. |
| 00:30.01 | nevjmac | sure let me jump online nevjmac.211 |
| 00:32.13 | nevjmac | ready when you are |
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| 01:08.52 | nevjmac | how does one display a timer on a unit, like the one on summoned units to tell you how long before they are destroyed |
| 01:10.03 | nevjmac | nevermind got it :) |
| 01:11.22 | Corbo | glad we could help |
| 01:11.26 | nevjmac | lol |
| 01:13.17 | A1win | my melee attack system is awesome now ^^ |
| 01:24.45 | A1win | interesting... my windows task bar got messed up |
| 01:25.02 | A1win | and my editor froze :I |
| 01:27.25 | Vail | i added my mod to my map and it overwrote half of my maps contents |
| 01:30.14 | nevjmac | ouch |
| 01:30.33 | Corbo | xC |
| 01:31.53 | nevjmac | say I have a seige tank as a hero unit and I want an ability to morph it into a seige mode for a set time before forcing it back, do I have to create a duplicate unit in seige mode? |
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| 01:43.06 | ThunderLord | Hey guys i have a question real quick, i am making an ability through triggers that is suppost to pick every unit within a range of 6 of the casting unit, pull them close to the caster and then Drain 90% of their current energy then 6 seconds later Return the drained energy and deal damage = to 50% of the energy returned |
| 01:43.45 | ThunderLord | my problem is, how can i store the value of the drained energy to return it 6 seconds later? |
| 01:44.34 | nevjmac | set variable to unit property current energy. then do a math calculation on it to get 90% of it and 50% of and stores those in new variables |
| 01:45.38 | ThunderLord | but it is happing like 10 times at once? |
| 01:45.43 | ThunderLord | will it still work? |
| 01:45.54 | nevjmac | what do you mean happening like 10 times |
| 01:46.03 | ThunderLord | well its pulling several units |
| 01:46.16 | ThunderLord | all units within a range of 6 |
| 01:46.27 | ThunderLord | so if i set 1 var |
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| 01:46.29 | ThunderLord | then |
| 01:46.30 | nevjmac | you can do this serveral ways add the units pulled to a unit group and go through them all with a for each unit sortof thing |
| 01:46.31 | doite | And its finally done |
| 01:46.32 | doite | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBsjAIDeMHI |
| 01:46.36 | doite | My map that is |
| 01:46.52 | ThunderLord | oh that should work |
| 01:46.55 | ThunderLord | okay thanks |
| 01:47.23 | nevjmac | np |
| 01:58.48 | A1win | anyone wanna try my 3rd person melee kerrigan? ;I |
| 02:03.01 | A1win | whoops, forgot to take target's radius into account |
| 02:05.24 | doite | i do |
| 02:05.50 | A1win | I'll just fix this quickly |
| 02:06.02 | doite | as soon as i know how to edit youtube videos discription |
| 02:07.15 | A1win | wooo this is awsome :3 |
| 02:09.08 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/hidden/a1win_wasd_00008.SC2Map |
| 02:09.42 | A1win | moouse2 for turn mode, mouse1 to attack |
| 02:10.31 | A1win | :P I forgot to disable the body swapping using E... |
| 02:10.38 | A1win | so the civilians can use kerrigan's attacks as well |
| 02:11.04 | doite | no multiplayer? |
| 02:11.10 | A1win | nope, too laggy |
| 02:11.41 | A1win | well not more laggy than any other wasd map I suppose... |
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| 02:14.37 | A1win | you can't move while attacking, but you can hold mouse1 while moving and she'll stop and attack as soon as there's someone in range |
| 02:15.20 | A1win | notice my awesome camera height changer when you rotate camera around her ^^ when viewed from front, the camera is a bit lower than at back |
| 02:15.45 | A1win | hold mouse3 to lower camera |
| 02:15.52 | A1win | useful ;p |
| 02:16.58 | A1win | oh, forgot to make her not invulnerable |
| 02:19.31 | doite | I like it=) |
| 02:19.37 | doite | But what are those.. |
| 02:19.38 | doite | red |
| 02:19.42 | doite | wall things |
| 02:19.47 | doite | Is that the random walls? |
| 02:19.48 | A1win | :P just testing for dungeon walls |
| 02:19.52 | doite | Ah =) |
| 02:19.56 | A1win | they aren't randomized yet |
| 02:20.12 | doite | Have u seen i now finaly have published my map? |
| 02:20.23 | A1win | nope :X |
| 02:20.40 | doite | BUT i dont know why but when i try to publish it again ( for update minors) i cant select the name |
| 02:20.48 | doite | Or it sais the name is taken or something like that |
| 02:20.57 | A1win | kerrigan also has spell and channel animations, so I can do some cool stuff with her .x |
| 02:21.00 | A1win | :x |
| 02:21.05 | A1win | and burrow too |
| 02:21.35 | A1win | and crouch with control already |
| 02:21.45 | A1win | can give her a defense boost while doing that ^^ |
| 02:22.17 | A1win | hmm apparently I forgot to disable turning while crouched.. but maybe it's better like that |
| 02:25.30 | A1win | eh, control + S toggles sound :P can accidentally press that when covering |
| 02:25.42 | doite | A1win |
| 02:25.43 | doite | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBsjAIDeMHIFor |
| 02:25.48 | A1win | well it doesn't do anything in-game so I guess it's fine... |
| 02:26.42 | A1win | cool :x |
| 02:27.08 | doite | =) |
| 02:29.08 | A1win | oh right I need to make my crouching into a looped check too so I can disable crouching while attacking... |
| 02:29.24 | A1win | nw you can attack from crouch if you release it for a moment |
| 02:34.44 | Vail | nevjmac hey |
| 02:35.18 | A1win | sleep time |
| 02:35.43 | RodOfNOD | mani hate this buggy fucking editor im losing trigger calls anditsstartingto piss methefuck off |
| 02:36.06 | Vail | ouch |
| 02:36.19 | RodOfNOD | i mean its literallythrowing away code |
| 02:36.38 | RodOfNOD | i go to z with working code i wake up and thecode is broke |
| 02:36.41 | RodOfNOD | that is total bs |
| 02:36.44 | nevjmac | yea vail? |
| 02:37.22 | Vail | what did you think of the tech artifcier i know we didnt get to explore his abilities too much but as a concept what do you think? |
| 02:37.47 | Vail | sorry the request for feedback is so late homework rang |
| 02:38.31 | doite | I want ppl to plllaaaaay it! Atleast for it to become as popular as my other map! |
| 02:38.51 | doite | I think it turned out so well, even made a fuckin movie to advertise it! |
| 02:39.00 | doite | How can ppl refuse! |
| 02:39.21 | Vail | i want to provide a solid and enjoyable gaming experince and the poulartity can come later if i succeed |
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| 02:45.53 | Corbo | heey |
| 02:46.03 | Corbo | it's rodofnod |
| 02:47.20 | allenmellon | how big is sc2 in total? |
| 02:49.20 | nevjmac | sorry took so long to reply |
| 02:49.24 | nevjmac | you still her vail |
| 02:49.45 | Vail | yeah just tyring to find out why my ability wont work on zeratul |
| 02:50.20 | nevjmac | ummm the flamming bettys range is probably a bit to high, I like the shield generator idea, dunno what the extra minerals were for |
| 02:50.23 | allenmellon | my friend says sc2 requires 12gb, but mines only 8gb? |
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| 02:50.42 | Vail | tne minerals are for spawning items i just need to think of more |
| 02:50.50 | RodOfNOD | IM A DUMBFOUNDED I LOST 8 ACTION CALLS IN A TRIGGER FROM YESTERDAY AND I DIDNT DO SHIT |
| 02:50.59 | RodOfNOD | IT LITERALLY FUCKING REMOVED THEM AS ORPHANED |
| 02:51.10 | Vail | the artificer has the artifice ability that currently lets him spawn a restoration charge |
| 02:51.16 | nevjmac | all in all I guess you need to know what the abilities are going to be used for (gameplay) to get picky about them |
| 02:51.18 | RodOfNOD | IF I DIDNT HAVE BACKUPS TO RECREATE THE TRIGGERS ID BE FUCKED |
| 02:51.32 | doite | =( |
| 02:51.32 | RodOfNOD | AND YES CAN U TELL IM PISSED :p |
| 02:51.47 | doite | *me maow ? |
| 02:51.48 | Vail | yeah, |
| 02:52.04 | doite | Well, goodnight |
| 02:52.08 | Vail | night |
| 02:52.19 | RodOfNOD | nite |
| 02:53.06 | RodOfNOD | anyone know how to center justify dialog text? |
| 02:53.18 | allenmellon | anyone tell me how big your sc2 is? |
| 02:53.19 | nevjmac | check tutorials |
| 02:53.29 | nevjmac | someone brought up center text |
| 02:53.30 | RodOfNOD | i have |
| 02:53.33 | nevjmac | it involves making a button |
| 02:53.40 | RodOfNOD | i dontwantto do that |
| 02:53.49 | nevjmac | your talking allignment? |
| 02:53.52 | RodOfNOD | there is a style called centerjustified it does jack |
| 02:53.53 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 02:53.57 | nevjmac | yea no other way |
| 02:54.04 | RodOfNOD | there has to be |
| 02:54.08 | RodOfNOD | i know how to fake it |
| 02:54.13 | RodOfNOD | but id rather avoid that |
| 02:54.18 | nevjmac | o.O |
| 02:54.44 | RodOfNOD | <s val="CenterJustified" |
| 02:54.46 | RodOfNOD | is a legit call |
| 02:54.48 | RodOfNOD | but it does jack |
| 02:54.54 | nevjmac | thats a style of text? |
| 02:54.58 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 02:55.04 | nevjmac | then its just going to apply a style |
| 02:55.05 | nevjmac | it won't allign |
| 02:55.13 | nevjmac | there is no way to allign unforuntaly |
| 02:55.22 | RodOfNOD | what would a centerjustified STYLE do |
| 02:55.33 | nevjmac | ummm let me find you a link |
| 02:55.45 | doite | www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBsjAIDeMHIFor |
| 02:55.48 | doite | There it is! |
| 02:55.49 | doite | =) |
| 02:55.50 | doite | Night |
| 02:55.59 | RodOfNOD | im 33% of ur views doite |
| 02:56.00 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 02:56.38 | nevjmac | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/2017-misc-text-styles-75-done |
| 02:56.45 | nevjmac | half way down you will find a picture it shows you what the styles do |
| 02:56.55 | nevjmac | centerjustified... just makes white text |
| 02:56.58 | RodOfNOD | yes im aware of it |
| 02:57.08 | RodOfNOD | ive looked at that link many times |
| 02:57.17 | Vail | SHIT |
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| 02:57.26 | RodOfNOD | ON |
| 02:57.27 | RodOfNOD | A |
| 02:57.28 | RodOfNOD | STICK |
| 02:57.54 | Vail | any one know of a way to make a behavior last after death? |
| 02:58.16 | currydevil | by not killing the unit. |
| 02:58.41 | currydevil | fake the death. not sure they persist otherwise |
| 02:59.18 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Capture1.JPG btw IF YOU ever see the top errors orphaned trigger function call u NEED to do something about because unlike the other errors it is a real error |
| 03:00.29 | Vail | right now my heros will have to rebuy their tomes of attribute plus every time they die... |
| 03:01.13 | nevjmac | store them? |
| 03:02.06 | nevjmac | any player buyes tome, +1 variable, player revives add +variables tome to hero |
| 03:03.23 | Vail | hmm |
| 03:04.05 | allenmellon | anyone know how big their sc2 is? |
| 03:04.17 | RodOfNOD | what do u mean allenmellon |
| 03:04.31 | RodOfNOD | the .exe file? |
| 03:04.37 | allenmellon | no the entire sc2 |
| 03:04.44 | RodOfNOD | that would change |
| 03:04.48 | RodOfNOD | depending onthepatch |
| 03:04.55 | RodOfNOD | why do u need to know |
| 03:04.58 | allenmellon | bcuz my friend is about to install, and he has the installer, and it says he needs 12gb, but my sc2 is only 8gb |
| 03:05.12 | RodOfNOD | well it has to unpack |
| 03:05.12 | allenmellon | and he has only 10gb |
| 03:05.18 | nevjmac | the extra space |
| 03:05.22 | nevjmac | will be for saving of banks etc |
| 03:05.28 | allenmellon | so if i were to lend him the cd, would he be able to isntall it? |
| 03:05.39 | nevjmac | probably |
| 03:05.42 | allenmellon | kk |
| 03:05.43 | nevjmac | you would get some nasty errors |
| 03:05.48 | RodOfNOD | currently mine is 8.53 gb |
| 03:05.49 | nevjmac | if he runs out of room I assume |
| 03:05.59 | allenmellon | yeah, mines only 8.58gb |
| 03:06.09 | RodOfNOD | if it says it needs 12gb |
| 03:06.12 | RodOfNOD | it needs 12gb |
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| 03:28.14 | Vail | why wont this work on zeratul? |
| 03:32.10 | nevjmac | this is? |
| 03:33.28 | Vail | sorry i have an ability on a neutral unit that applises a buff to like a tome shop in wc3 |
| 03:34.18 | nevjmac | and it won't apply the buff to zeratul |
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| 03:34.42 | Vail | nope |
| 03:35.25 | nevjmac | is there a requirement flagging against zeratul in the shop |
| 03:36.15 | Vail | no |
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| 03:47.54 | brandon___ | what do u guys think of star battle? |
| 03:47.55 | Vail | well im stumped |
| 03:48.07 | Vail | never heard of it sorrt |
| 03:48.09 | Vail | sorry*& |
| 03:48.19 | brandon___ | never heard of it? |
| 03:48.24 | brandon___ | its the most popular map right now |
| 03:48.37 | currydevil | doesn't mean anything |
| 03:48.52 | currydevil | I haven't heard of it either, I haven't been on bnet ina couple weeks to boot. |
| 03:49.00 | nevjmac | lies :P |
| 03:49.04 | currydevil | lol |
| 03:49.06 | nevjmac | you and I were on bnet a couple of nights ago |
| 03:49.10 | currydevil | I got the fire nova in data nev |
| 03:49.13 | currydevil | well |
| 03:49.19 | currydevil | i didn't check the custom maps list ;) |
| 03:49.25 | nevjmac | lol |
| 03:49.35 | currydevil | i have it with 2 animations now |
| 03:49.42 | currydevil | not sure which one I want to use |
| 03:49.43 | brandon___ | you are mapmaking and you dont check your customer? |
| 03:50.03 | nevjmac | ummm brandon we don't have maps in a phase where its releasable |
| 03:50.05 | nevjmac | so why check? |
| 03:50.11 | currydevil | what are you takling about? I map make because i like it, I haven't said i finished anything worth publishing yet have i? |
| 03:50.14 | nevjmac | I have seen your star battle at the top of the list but I havn't played it |
| 03:50.17 | brandon___ | just to get the appeal |
| 03:50.22 | brandon___ | what most people like |
| 03:50.36 | currydevil | is that all map making is to you? to make something that's popular? |
| 03:50.52 | brandon___ | not really |
| 03:51.06 | currydevil | then what was the deal telling me my map would fail if it wasn't a tug? |
| 03:51.36 | two13 | brandon, would you say farmville is better than demon's souls? and would you suggest that game designers always base game design decisions on what would make the game the most popular? |
| 03:52.44 | Vail | any one who can figure out why in the name of the nine hells this stupid buff wont apply to Zeratul well they wll get their own hero in my mod |
| 03:52.57 | currydevil | hehe |
| 03:53.01 | nevjmac | rofl |
| 03:53.08 | currydevil | may I see it? just for kicks. |
| 03:53.16 | currydevil | i don't care about aa hero ;) |
| 03:53.42 | nevjmac | I want to know an easy way to morph a hero seige tank into seige mode for a timer duration :/ |
| 03:54.05 | currydevil | hmmm |
| 03:54.14 | Vail | buff and then issue order unseige ? |
| 03:54.28 | nevjmac | ok the problem being seige mode and tank mode are two units |
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| 03:54.33 | nevjmac | they need to have same attributes |
| 03:54.35 | nevjmac | same hp |
| 03:54.36 | nevjmac | etc |
| 03:54.55 | Vail | can one have a buff the other doesnt? |
| 03:55.08 | currydevil | hrmm |
| 03:55.15 | currydevil | they would share the same % hp with the morph |
| 03:55.18 | currydevil | I know that much |
| 03:55.24 | nevjmac | ok what about experience |
| 03:55.29 | Vail | that too |
| 03:55.41 | Vail | as long as they both have the vet.. |
| 03:56.02 | nevjmac | so the morphing should give the seige mode the same attributes? |
| 03:56.36 | Vail | the values carry over if both units have the behaviors |
| 03:56.52 | Vail | but there is a slight bug ... with energy |
| 03:57.07 | nevjmac | :/ ea? |
| 03:57.09 | nevjmac | yea |
| 03:57.26 | Vail | yes. |
| 03:57.49 | nevjmac | as in what is the bug lol |
| 03:58.06 | Vail | when you use an attribute to raise energy above the default it is reset to the default max after morphing either way |
| 03:58.59 | Vail | i am sure we will see a lot of code fixes and improvements after blizzard Dota |
| 03:59.11 | nevjmac | that doesn't help me now lol |
| 03:59.19 | nevjmac | but thats retarded |
| 03:59.20 | Vail | me neither |
| 03:59.25 | Vail | and yeah |
| 03:59.37 | nevjmac | even though the attributes remain there which should push the max energy up |
| 04:00.04 | Vail | sorry its the current energy that reverts to max |
| 04:00.08 | Vail | not the total |
| 04:00.28 | nevjmac | ah right |
| 04:00.43 | nevjmac | could add a trigger fix for that I guess |
| 04:01.00 | nevjmac | current energy levels |
| 04:01.07 | nevjmac | disable energy in siege mode |
| 04:01.14 | nevjmac | set energy level to current again |
| 04:01.47 | Vail | i would try and confirm the bug is still there before trying to work around it its been a while since i tryed |
| 04:03.12 | brandon___ | sorry afk |
| 04:03.16 | brandon___ | im just saying |
| 04:03.20 | Vail | i hope bizzard dota comes out before heart of the storm. |
| 04:03.23 | brandon___ | popularity system |
| 04:03.30 | Sixen | It will, Vail |
| 04:03.32 | brandon___ | destroy everything |
| 04:03.40 | brandon___ | if not popular you cant play with people |
| 04:03.45 | two13 | they'll fix that eventually |
| 04:03.50 | brandon___ | thats all im saying |
| 04:03.55 | brandon___ | my friend make a game |
| 04:04.04 | Vail | cool but when sigh |
| 04:04.06 | brandon___ | spend 2 hours each day for 2 months |
| 04:04.18 | nevjmac | I hope its soon, I don't want to have to redo my heroes again |
| 04:04.20 | brandon___ | but to play a game he has to wait in lobby for 5-10 mins |
| 04:04.32 | brandon___ | sometimes mroe |
| 04:04.50 | brandon___ | i told him to make tug of war instead |
| 04:05.43 | Vail | my second hero can call down shrike turret bunkers that auto produce autoturrets heh its going to be His Ultimate.. when i get that far |
| 04:06.05 | nevjmac | not all tug of wars are popular either |
| 04:07.03 | Vail | besides its not about making a popular map any way its about creating something you are proud of and want to share. |
| 04:07.19 | Vail | i want to share my game so bad im making mini games that feature parts of it |
| 04:07.24 | nevjmac | lol |
| 04:07.37 | nevjmac | how do I get rid of tech lab research seige thingy |
| 04:07.56 | nevjmac | its required on my move but I don't know where |
| 04:07.57 | Vail | for the hero siege tank? |
| 04:08.01 | nevjmac | yea |
| 04:08.47 | nevjmac | found it |
| 04:08.50 | nevjmac | different menues |
| 04:08.53 | nevjmac | never seen them before |
| 04:09.09 | Vail | ah |
| 04:09.18 | nevjmac | the morph menus that is |
| 04:09.59 | nevjmac | hmmmm lol |
| 04:10.08 | nevjmac | I have an invisible seige tank |
| 04:10.30 | Vail | why? |
| 04:10.51 | nevjmac | actors won't be linked up properly yet |
| 04:10.52 | nevjmac | lol |
| 04:10.58 | Vail | ah |
| 04:11.10 | Vail | er |
| 04:11.31 | Vail | i just ralized my fingers said storm instead of swarm ... stupid fingers |
| 04:15.33 | nevjmac | wow at the shear quantity of actors for siege tanks.... and i thought spine crawlers were bad ... QQ |
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| 04:18.23 | currydevil | lol |
| 04:18.37 | Vail | sixen your in good with the blizzard folks .... tell them zeratul is bugged and wont take a buff i need him to have ... either that or he is mean and stuff |
| 04:19.14 | Vail | by your i mean you're and by you're i mean Sc2Mapster's parent company |
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| 04:19.53 | Sixen | what's up, Vail? |
| 04:20.15 | Maged | It isn't Mappster thats in good with Blizz... it really IS Sixen... |
| 04:20.20 | Sixen | ohai Maged |
| 04:20.24 | Vail | im just fustrated that every time i cast a buff on zeratul he shakes it off like water of a ducks back |
| 04:20.26 | Maged | Sup |
| 04:20.29 | Vail | ah |
| 04:20.38 | Sixen | btw Maged, going to respond to your email in a little bit... crazy day today... |
| 04:20.49 | Maged | I knows... |
| 04:20.54 | Sixen | Saw my FB? :P |
| 04:21.16 | Maged | Oh shit, I haven't been on FB for a week... |
| 04:21.23 | currydevil | Vail, can I take a look? no idea how to fix it if i can't see ;) |
| 04:21.35 | Maged | But no, it was just that kind of day... |
| 04:21.35 | currydevil | or have any idea rather |
| 04:21.38 | Sixen | I usually don't ever use it, but I felt like I actually had something to share |
| 04:22.24 | Sixen | vail: If curry also finds that it's a bug in GE, can you submit your map with the "broken maps" category on Mapster so I can pass it over to the folks at Blizzard? |
| 04:22.34 | Vail | it seem to happen like this ... Zeratul saunters up to the shop and goes" id like to buy a buff there pilgram" and the clerk goes " right away there mr zertatul" and he proceds to go through buffs like er bond through martinis |
| 04:22.52 | Maged | I just found out that the forums are being updated for Cata, so we can't release until AFTER that now :( |
| 04:23.08 | Vail | i will host the map and mod file and give links |
| 04:26.24 | Vail | looks like my comedy need a buff... |
| 04:28.11 | Vail | tough crowd not even i pitty laugh .. |
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| 04:30.12 | Phaos_ | rawr |
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| 04:37.50 | Sixen | lol |
| 04:38.29 | nevjmac | ok.... my siege tank sieged actor won't allow me to select a unit to link it to, instead it wants me to type it in? |
| 04:40.46 | Vail | thank you sixen for the pitty |
| 04:42.59 | Sixen | :P |
| 04:43.36 | nevjmac | grr why is the siege animation not playing :/ |
| 04:43.49 | two13 | is there any reason I can't select just a single player for this trigger? or am I missing it? |
| 04:43.49 | two13 | Dialog - Hide (Dialog containing (Used dialog item)) for (Player group((Triggering player))) |
| 04:44.10 | nevjmac | that should work |
| 04:44.19 | two13 | that won't hide it for all in the player group? |
| 04:44.23 | nevjmac | correct |
| 04:44.32 | two13 | oh, weird, ok cool |
| 04:44.34 | nevjmac | player group of triggering player is just the only person |
| 04:44.44 | nevjmac | you have converted player to player group right? |
| 04:45.00 | two13 | i don't remember converting player to player group |
| 04:45.11 | nevjmac | how did you get that triggering player in the end part |
| 04:45.13 | two13 | i have a 2 team map, 1 team of players is in 1 player group, other team is in other group |
| 04:45.26 | nevjmac | I'm talking just that one peice of code |
| 04:45.29 | two13 | Dialog - Any Dialog Item is used by Player Any Player with event type Any |
| 04:45.34 | two13 | trigger with that event |
| 04:45.37 | nevjmac | lol |
| 04:45.44 | nevjmac | you linked a dialog action just before |
| 04:45.55 | nevjmac | in the end of that how did you select triggering player |
| 04:46.03 | nevjmac | convert player to player group right? |
| 04:46.42 | two13 | i uh... clicked the link and found "Triggering player" even used it |
| 04:47.06 | nevjmac | ok nm, if you have just triggering player there it will only hide it for triggering player |
| 04:47.44 | two13 | yeah so after "for", I chose "convert player to player group", and then for player, I chose "triggering player" |
| 04:47.52 | two13 | so won't that hide the dialog for everyone in the player group? |
| 04:48.05 | nevjmac | triggering player is the only person in that group |
| 04:48.08 | two13 | i was wondering why i couldn't just pick "triggering player" after "for" instead of "convert player to player group first" |
| 04:48.09 | nevjmac | its like a local variable |
| 04:48.30 | two13 | oh, i also have each player in a player group, so this is a local player group? |
| 04:48.35 | nevjmac | yea |
| 04:48.41 | two13 | ok i guess that makes sense |
| 04:48.57 | two13 | ty ty |
| 04:49.11 | nevjmac | np, back to my question, what am I missing with my seige morph animation |
| 04:49.41 | Vail | id have to take a look to see. |
| 04:50.05 | nevjmac | do you have team viewer? |
| 04:50.14 | Vail | nope. |
| 04:50.34 | nevjmac | would you mind getting it? free download allows you to log into my pc so you can see for yourself |
| 04:50.44 | Vail | hmm |
| 04:51.54 | Vail | downloading |
| 04:51.59 | nevjmac | ^_^ |
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| 05:13.34 | RodOfNOD | hmm blizzaards bug apears to be either related to serious undo redo or cut and paste |
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| 06:06.09 | allenmellon | http://www.amazon.com/Macally-G-S350SU-Hi-Speed-External-Enclosure/dp/B0013LRLUM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top |
| 06:06.10 | allenmellon | or |
| 06:06.11 | allenmellon | http://www.amazon.com/I-NIA315Ue-Hybrid-Drive-Enclosure-eSATA/dp/B0038LKK26/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top |
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| 06:37.48 | Dekar | ECHO! |
| 06:37.49 | Dekar | Echo! |
| 06:37.51 | Dekar | echo! |
| 06:40.53 | Dekar | oh god |
| 06:40.57 | Dekar | EVERYONE IS DEAD! |
| 06:41.28 | Dekar | im the last survivor |
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| 06:58.22 | iksong | hi |
| 06:58.35 | iksong | how do you add cooldown to dialog item button? |
| 06:59.02 | currydevil | you can use a trigger action to disable the button after it is clicked |
| 06:59.14 | currydevil | then set a timer, and enable the button after the timer expires |
| 06:59.54 | iksong | can you do cooldown like button abilities? |
| 07:00.03 | iksong | make a circling motion like clock |
| 07:00.29 | iksong | on Blizzard DOTA |
| 07:00.33 | iksong | do u think they use dialog item? |
| 07:00.46 | iksong | or they modify the item bag to be bigger? |
| 07:00.52 | iksong | for the item bag i mean? |
| 07:01.04 | currydevil | i have no idea. |
| 07:01.14 | currydevil | i haven't looked at anything concerning blizzard dota |
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| 07:09.55 | RodOfNOD | iksong let meshow u what ive done |
| 07:12.38 | RodOfNOD | iksong- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Screenshot2010-11-29%2023_11_53.jpg |
| 07:12.45 | RodOfNOD | thats what i have done using dialogs |
| 07:13.09 | iksong | coool |
| 07:13.21 | RodOfNOD | i got the data using catalog functions |
| 07:13.24 | iksong | but my Q is can you do cooldown on button |
| 07:13.37 | RodOfNOD | sure |
| 07:13.38 | iksong | with circling animation |
| 07:13.41 | iksong | just like when you use ability |
| 07:13.57 | RodOfNOD | u could cycle through several images |
| 07:14.02 | RodOfNOD | over time |
| 07:14.10 | RodOfNOD | do umean cooldown or autocast |
| 07:14.21 | RodOfNOD | oh u mean the shaded slice? |
| 07:14.36 | iksong | yes shaded slice |
| 07:14.45 | iksong | so ur making wiki inside custom game? |
| 07:14.49 | RodOfNOD | u cant do it via normal |
| 07:14.59 | RodOfNOD | well thats the HELP just more advanced |
| 07:15.03 | RodOfNOD | making for a sc1 mod |
| 07:15.14 | RodOfNOD | allows us to have our own tech trees etc |
| 07:15.29 | RodOfNOD | let me think about the slice |
| 07:15.38 | RodOfNOD | i ll bb in a sec let my brain work on that |
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| 07:25.26 | RodOfNOD | well ud have to fake it iksong using one of 2 methods |
| 07:26.03 | RodOfNOD | have say a series of 60 or so images that u would reaveal all initially over the icon using alpha or additive and then remove over time |
| 07:26.15 | RodOfNOD | or use a different way to represent the cooldown |
| 07:26.32 | RodOfNOD | ie a square that u at first filled the entire icon with and then over time just shrunk from top to bottom |
| 07:26.39 | RodOfNOD | or conversely bottom to top |
| 07:26.55 | RodOfNOD | iksong follow? |
| 07:26.59 | iksong | yes |
| 07:27.05 | iksong | but thats a lot of work |
| 07:27.21 | iksong | making 60 dds images |
| 07:27.47 | RodOfNOD | lol making shit klook good is alot of work |
| 07:28.07 | RodOfNOD | compared to the time ive spent it would be minor :P |
| 07:28.20 | RodOfNOD | but to my knowledge thats ur only option |
| 07:28.22 | RodOfNOD | we can move |
| 07:28.24 | RodOfNOD | we can resize |
| 07:28.30 | RodOfNOD | we cant even rotate |
| 07:28.39 | RodOfNOD | so idk how else u would do this |
| 07:28.49 | RodOfNOD | if i was u i would do the rectangle resize over time |
| 07:29.10 | RodOfNOD | or have a number that is counting down right over the icon |
| 07:35.54 | RodOfNOD | nite nite |
| 07:36.17 | Dekar | ooh, i got a black prophecy closed beta invite :o |
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| 07:51.39 | PointBlank | sigh i was wondering why ppl stopped talking |
| 07:51.41 | PointBlank | silly d/c |
| 07:51.54 | PointBlank | does anyone know how to enable simultaneous channel & weapon use? i'd like to be able to attack whilst healing |
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| 08:12.17 | two13 | any way to get number of record entries in a record? |
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| 09:18.52 | maknyuzz | hello guys |
| 09:19.03 | maknyuzz | how do you hide vespene and supply in resources UI? |
| 09:19.08 | maknyuzz | just want to show mineral count |
| 09:19.25 | Helral|Work | go to the data editor to the races, then remove them there from the show resources field. |
| 09:19.51 | Arthas- | pets helral |
| 09:19.55 | Helral|Work | purrs |
| 09:20.01 | Arthas- | Who's doing a good job? You are doing a good job! |
| 09:20.25 | Helral|Work | curls up and goes to sleep.... If only he wasn't at work. |
| 09:20.54 | Helral|Work | hates winter... too cold. |
| 09:21.17 | Arthas- | -18c now |
| 09:21.19 | Arthas- | <3 |
| 09:21.33 | Helral|Work | you frosty |
| 09:21.49 | PointBlank | do you guys know how to enable simultaneous channel & weapon use? i'd like to be able to attack and heal simultaneously |
| 09:21.59 | Arthas- | i cant feel me hands! :p |
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| 09:22.28 | Helral|Work | annoying is it when your head is awake and the rest of your body sleeps.... |
| 09:22.40 | Arthas- | Pfft, I remember back when we had the amusing questions such as "How do I start the editor" :< |
| 09:22.53 | Arthas- | Helral|Work in what manner :p |
| 09:22.59 | Helral|Work | PointBlank: hmmm how about making the weapon a siteop? |
| 09:23.13 | Arthas- | ie, you are fully awake and aware of what happens around you, but the body is fully asleep? |
| 09:23.23 | maknyuzz | what about supply? |
| 09:23.28 | maknyuzz | i only see mineral, vespene |
| 09:23.32 | Arthas- | that happened to me once and it was creepy. |
| 09:23.32 | Helral|Work | in manner of needing to get up cause of work, but body not responding. |
| 09:23.33 | maknyuzz | how to remove supply? |
| 09:23.35 | PointBlank | was hoping it was more ability related than weapon related ... using every weapon in the game and don't want to change them all ;) |
| 09:23.53 | Arthas- | oh, well thats natural helral :D |
| 09:23.59 | Helral|Work | maknyuzz: not certain but it might be gone if you set all supply usage to 0. |
| 09:24.14 | maknyuzz | still shows up |
| 09:24.31 | Helral|Work | PointBlank: no clue. |
| 09:24.40 | PointBlank | thanks tho :) |
| 09:24.44 | maknyuzz | hang on |
| 09:24.51 | maknyuzz | how to sert all supply usage to 0? |
| 09:24.51 | Helral|Work | maknyuzz: hmmmz there should be a way to remove supply ..... |
| 09:25.05 | Helral|Work | Arthas-, my minion, go help maknyuzz :) |
| 09:25.18 | Helral|Work | meows diabolically |
| 09:25.35 | Arthas- | that requires me to start editor up and look :p |
| 09:25.43 | maknyuzz | arthax ex gf of jaina? |
| 09:25.44 | Arthas- | im just going to play some css instead :D |
| 09:25.47 | maknyuzz | bf* |
| 09:25.47 | Arthas- | ex? |
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| 09:25.52 | Arthas- | :> |
| 09:26.00 | Deaod | you know whats disturbing? People thinking theyre cats. |
| 09:26.29 | Arthas- | Deaod http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipm9xe5HXNU |
| 09:26.30 | Arthas- | for you |
| 09:26.34 | Helral|Work | Welcome to jaina in the morning, here with us is Mal Vengeroth and his gf Kim. Mal do you have something to tell Kim? |
| 09:26.38 | Arthas- | Watch that and tell me that aint a cat? |
| 09:26.51 | Helral|Work | Mal: Well Kim, I'm a demon. |
| 09:27.04 | Helral|Work | Kim: you're what?, you said you worked at the post office |
| 09:27.10 | Helral|Work | Mal: Well I moonlight. |
| 09:27.14 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 09:27.18 | Arthas- | "Oh it's my shadow.. Hey, my shadow is looking nice!" |
| 09:27.37 | Helral|Work | Deaod: you make 1 mistake. |
| 09:27.39 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 09:27.46 | Arthas- | "Better make myself biiig!" |
| 09:27.48 | Helral|Work | isn't a person who thinks he's a cat. |
| 09:28.07 | A1win | x.x my camera is glitching weirdly in one part of the map, and there doesn't even seem to be anything weird around |
| 09:28.27 | Helral|Work | is a highly intelligent cat that even learned how to speak ;p |
| 09:28.39 | A1win | there's a ramp next to it but not very close... |
| 09:28.58 | A1win | oh well that's probably it anyway |
| 09:28.59 | Deaod | this is getting more disturbing by the minute |
| 09:29.02 | Helral|Work | purl what is Helral? |
| 09:29.02 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, helral is an evil random kitten |
| 09:29.02 | Helral|Work | ~Helral |
| 09:29.02 | purl | from memory, helral is an evil random kitten |
| 09:29.09 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 09:29.25 | Helral|Work | I need to remember that first one :) didn't know it yet. |
| 09:29.42 | maknyuzz | how to give bag to unit? |
| 09:30.00 | Helral|Work | create an inventory ability, if you mean it like that. |
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| 09:30.26 | maknyuzz | yea |
| 09:30.32 | maknyuzz | i just forgot what its called |
| 09:30.42 | maknyuzz | i search equip didnt show up |
| 09:30.47 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 09:30.50 | maknyuzz | so how to remove supply resources? |
| 09:31.22 | Deaod | search the UI triggers |
| 09:31.32 | Helral|Work | hmmmm. does it show in Hide/Show UI Frame? |
| 09:31.39 | A1win | yep |
| 09:31.47 | Helral|Work | or was it Show/Hide UI Frame ;p |
| 09:31.53 | Helral|Work | I know you can remove the entire bar there ;p |
| 09:32.03 | Helral|Work | dunno about just the supply though. |
| 09:32.13 | A1win | you can hide Supply Bar |
| 09:32.19 | Helral|Work | ah :) |
| 09:32.19 | A1win | *supply panel |
| 09:32.43 | Deaod | Blizzard thinking ahead? wow. |
| 09:32.45 | Helral|Work | why didn't they make that race dependent as well..... |
| 09:33.01 | A1win | no idea :> |
| 09:33.54 | Deaod | im surprised they separated that from the other resources in the first place |
| 09:33.54 | Helral|Work | wonder how long it will take blizzard to allow hotkeys while the game UI is hidden. |
| 09:33.59 | A1win | so... got kerrigan's melee attacks working now D: maybe I should do ranged next... |
| 09:34.36 | A1win | btw... I just realized the "traceline" function used by some TPS/FPS systems is way more complicated than it needs to be |
| 09:34.46 | Deaod | errrr, do you really need that, Helral? |
| 09:34.55 | Helral|Work | yeah |
| 09:35.05 | Deaod | i mean, you can listen for button presses with triggers... |
| 09:35.16 | A1win | or uh... nevermind, it's probably lighter that way |
| 09:35.19 | Helral|Work | cause I hide the game UI and show only the command panel if the player wants to see it. |
| 09:35.32 | Helral|Work | Deaod: you can but you can't handle cursor splats that way. |
| 09:35.45 | Helral|Work | unless you entirely trigger the abilities. |
| 09:36.47 | Deaod | you cant redirect those key presses to the actual abilities? |
| 09:37.03 | Helral|Work | not as you would want to. |
| 09:37.25 | Helral|Work | for example player clicks on nuke, gets cursor splat normally. how would you trigger that bit? |
| 09:37.35 | Deaod | hrm |
| 09:37.58 | Helral|Work | if I could alter the mouse cursor on the fly then I'd also be helped quite a bit. |
| 09:38.02 | Deaod | you can trigger the selection process manually, right? |
| 09:38.26 | maknyuzz | do you know how to make item inventory has bigger squares? |
| 09:38.58 | Deaod | probably impossible, but dont take my word for it |
| 09:39.03 | Helral|Work | http://www.sc2mapster.com/Assets/Dialog-Based-Inventory (if I have the link correctly in my mind) |
| 09:39.25 | Helral|Work | or didn't you mean it like that? ;p |
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| 09:39.57 | Helral|Work | or did you just mean make it display the inventory larger in general? |
| 09:40.24 | maknyuzz | i got cat face |
| 09:40.26 | maknyuzz | 404 not found |
| 09:40.41 | Helral|Work | search the assets for the dialog based inventory then. |
| 09:41.09 | Helral|Work | I made it myself, it allows 2-dimensional items instead of just 1x1 items. |
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| 09:42.07 | Helral|Work | implementing it is still a bit of a hassle sadly. I need to make it more user friendly. |
| 09:42.43 | Dekar | you need to make it more pawsome |
| 09:43.49 | Helral|Work | well I can use some tips for improving that system. if you have any please post them at the forum thread that I made in the library section for that dialog inventory system. |
| 09:44.23 | maknyuzz | can u do dialog based command card? |
| 09:44.34 | Helral|Work | yup, but hotkeys don't work. |
| 09:44.38 | maknyuzz | yea |
| 09:44.52 | Helral|Work | see my other asset. uhm what was it called again |
| 09:44.58 | Helral|Work | Dialog Item Templates or something |
| 09:45.34 | Helral|Work | it's basicly the default command card from sc2 but then you can position it in a dialog. |
| 09:46.07 | Helral|Work | also some other folks have made stuff like the actionlib, which creates an actionbar. |
| 09:48.36 | maknyuzz | how do you open sc2lib file? |
| 09:49.20 | Helral|Work | in the trigger editor go to the library bit (if not visible it's one of the buttons shown in the bar to make it visible) then rightclick and select import library. |
| 09:50.16 | Helral|Work | then you can import the sc2lib into your map. |
| 09:50.49 | Helral|Work | I'd think a better explanation can be found at the forums |
| 09:59.16 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:00.05 | Helral|Work | btw Deaod, what is? (in response to: [10:28] <Deaod> this is getting more disturbing by the minute ) |
| 10:00.40 | Helral|Work | meows questioningly |
| 10:00.54 | Dekar | pets Helral |
| 10:01.06 | Helral|Work | purrs |
| 10:01.36 | Helral|Work | wonder if this one works.... |
| 10:01.41 | Helral|Work | purl what am I? |
| 10:01.41 | purl | *squeak!* get a way from me, you freak! |
| 10:01.45 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 10:01.57 | Dekar | that worked purrfectly |
| 10:02.01 | Helral|Work | purl who is Helral? |
| 10:02.01 | purl | methinks helral is an evil random kitten |
| 10:02.06 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 10:02.12 | Dekar | purl what am I? |
| 10:02.12 | purl | *squeak!* get a way from me, you freak! |
| 10:02.15 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:02.27 | Helral|Work | purl who is Dekar? |
| 10:02.28 | purl | Helral|Work: what are you talking about? |
| 10:02.32 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 10:02.39 | Helral|Work | purl doesn't know you Dekar ;p |
| 10:02.59 | Helral|Work | you're not famous enough ;p |
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| 10:03.46 | Dekar | :( |
| 10:04.20 | Dekar | maybe if i make me a cat skin cape |
| 10:04.40 | Helral|Work | starts sharpening his claws |
| 10:04.50 | Helral|Work | wouldn't mind having a human skin cape |
| 10:04.53 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:05.09 | Dekar | can i get flying units on the ground somehow? |
| 10:05.12 | Dekar | with a trigger |
| 10:05.19 | Dekar | or maybe a behaviour |
| 10:05.23 | Helral|Work | ow.... |
| 10:05.33 | Dekar | unit height refuses to work |
| 10:05.37 | Helral|Work | well you prolly could get the mover to be set to the ground. |
| 10:07.37 | Dekar | ooh |
| 10:07.39 | Dekar | negative height |
| 10:07.43 | Helral|Work | lol |
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| 10:10.06 | Tordy | my sc2mapster account user&pass isnt working for svn |
| 10:10.06 | Tordy | how |
| 10:10.08 | Tordy | to do |
| 10:10.37 | Helral|Work | svn uses project based user/pass? |
| 10:10.42 | Helral|Work | doesn't know |
| 10:10.46 | Tordy | >:) |
| 10:11.09 | Helral|Work | let's see if I can find someone who knows about it... like Sixen... who I can slap with a trout. |
| 10:11.14 | Helral|Work | just to get his attention. |
| 10:11.19 | Helral|Work | right, Sixen? |
| 10:11.26 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:11.51 | Helral|Work | slaps Sixen around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:11.54 | Tordy | so how do i set this project userpass |
| 10:11.59 | Helral|Work | meows innocently |
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| 10:12.56 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:13.16 | Helral|Work | sees double |
| 10:13.23 | Deaeod | :) |
| 10:13.29 | Deaeod | different machine |
| 10:13.44 | Helral|Work | same person |
| 10:13.52 | Deaeod | same idiot, yeah |
| 10:14.00 | Helral|Work | ok same idiot. |
| 10:14.09 | Helral|Work | so idiot got some knowledge about svn? |
| 10:14.39 | Tordy | so now what |
| 10:15.06 | Deaeod | i have minimal knowledge, and i havent used the sc2mapster one. |
| 10:15.14 | Helral|Work | Tordy: try to get either Sixen's attention or nicoli_s' or Kaelten's. |
| 10:15.16 | Deaeod | so no, i dont think im the right person to turn to. |
| 10:15.32 | Helral|Work | they should know. |
| 10:15.42 | Tordy | prob sleepin |
| 10:15.52 | Helral|Work | or vjeux's. |
| 10:16.00 | Helral|Work | ow wait vjeux ain't here atm :( |
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| 10:16.45 | Tordy | oh wait faq righ there |
| 10:16.45 | Tordy | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/repositories/repository-faq/ |
| 10:16.49 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 10:17.05 | Tordy | hi Helral|Work |
| 10:17.31 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:17.52 | Helral|Work | btw Deaeod |
| 10:18.02 | Deaeod | ? |
| 10:18.11 | Helral|Work | what is? (in response to: [10:28] <Deaod> this is getting more disturbing by the minute ) |
| 10:18.22 | Deaeod | you turning into a cat? |
| 10:18.33 | Helral|Work | nope I ain't turning into a cat. |
| 10:18.41 | Helral|Work | I can only turn into a human. |
| 10:18.43 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 10:18.45 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:19.15 | Helral|Work | just ask purl what I am. |
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| 10:28.57 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:29.55 | Dekar | ~helral |
| 10:29.56 | purl | i heard helral is an evil random kitten |
| 10:30.14 | Dekar | ~help |
| 10:30.24 | Tordy | helral is an evil kitten WTF |
| 10:30.48 | Dekar | ~where can i find helral? |
| 10:30.49 | purl | methinks helral is an evil random kitten |
| 10:30.52 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:31.06 | Helral|Work | brainwashed purl. |
| 10:31.27 | Dekar | ~tell me the opposite of what helral is |
| 10:31.40 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 10:31.41 | Dekar | [11:31:19] <purl> No, dekar, I won't. (target invalid?) |
| 10:31.43 | Dekar | aww |
| 10:32.05 | Helral|Work | pets purl |
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| 10:32.43 | Helral|Work | Tordy: purl says so, so it's true ;P |
| 10:32.50 | Tordy | helral guess what |
| 10:32.51 | Tordy | boop |
| 10:33.01 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:33.15 | Helral|Work | booq ? |
| 10:33.38 | Dekar | ~boop |
| 10:33.44 | Dekar | ~boobies |
| 10:33.44 | purl | boobies are always fun to play with, or very big |
| 10:33.52 | Helral|Work | :) |
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| 10:50.12 | Tordy | MEET ME SOMEWHERE |
| 11:06.38 | A1win | hmm do you think this would be a good ability system for singleplayer: from every unit you kill, you get a bit of "action points" which you can then use to cast special abilities, but they fade away over time... so instead of being able to wait to get your "energy" back, you'd actually need to rush from one battle to the other to get the most benefit out of the action points |
| 11:07.28 | A1win | you regenerate health over time, so it's a question between waiting for health and being more efficient in killing |
| 11:08.03 | A1win | maybe your normal attacks can do more damage depending on how many "action points" you have as well |
| 11:08.13 | A1win | oh yeah |
| 11:08.18 | A1win | exactly like rage in WoW :P |
| 11:08.42 | A1win | (well in principle, not the exact functionality) |
| 11:10.15 | A1win | could make it even more like that... just give the player rage whenever he does damage with normal attacks |
| 11:10.29 | A1win | would fit for kerrigan :x |
| 11:11.21 | A1win | is there a way to speed up an actor's animation? |
| 11:12.34 | A1win | time variant apparently? |
| 11:13.52 | A1win | or dunno |
| 11:14.58 | A1win | ah yea |
| 11:16.26 | A1win | bah I need a way to separate kerrigan's attack animations, can't use same duration for both attacks since the animation has different length x\ |
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| 11:25.05 | A1win | can also increase her speed depending on rage o: |
| 11:25.29 | A1win | then I guess it's fine to get more rage on damage as well, so when enemies start shooting, she becomes faster :x |
| 11:25.48 | A1win | could use a running animation though... |
| 11:27.05 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:29.10 | Clord | >_> |
| 11:29.15 | A1win | I suppose I can make a behavior that gives her energy depending on how much damage she takes or does? |
| 11:29.23 | Clord | I should probably start preparing new cards before I have those graphics... meh =) |
| 11:32.38 | Clord | cards take to function five variables.... |
| 11:32.40 | Clord | lol |
| 11:33.16 | Clord | cards take to function with five variables........... >_> |
| 11:35.30 | A1win | hmm... energy regeneration delay doesn't get triggered when I add energy using triggers |
| 11:35.45 | A1win | probably because it's not designed to be negative ;[ |
| 11:36.27 | Dekar | ~what is a purl? |
| 11:36.28 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Dekar |
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| 11:57.06 | Clord | OC Yamato Gun... it has power... but so it also hurts hit points XD |
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| 12:09.09 | Tordy | Helral|Work: |
| 12:09.11 | Tordy | MEET ME SOMEHWERE |
| 12:14.31 | Clord | congrulations |
| 12:14.35 | Clord | you got stalker |
| 12:15.26 | Tordy | hi Clord |
| 12:16.41 | Clord | hi |
| 12:19.58 | Clord | it is espically good to take advice from Gintama anime lol XD |
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| 12:50.56 | XenoX | hello |
| 12:51.24 | XenoX | anyone alive here |
| 12:53.12 | Clord | hehe |
| 12:53.15 | Clord | almost |
| 12:54.14 | XenoX | sup :) |
| 12:54.59 | Clord | prepared some cards for next update for THE Card Game... >_> |
| 12:55.28 | XenoX | interesting, never played a card game on SC2 |
| 12:55.40 | XenoX | I'm on SEA server so we get a very limited choice of popular maps :( |
| 12:55.59 | XenoX | partly why I came on here, to get more into the custom map thing |
| 12:56.38 | Clord | oh well.... at least so far it has not been yet another DotA invasion thing |
| 12:57.06 | XenoX | hah yeah |
| 12:57.12 | XenoX | SOTIS is actually about 4th on the list |
| 12:57.18 | XenoX | very happy about that :p |
| 12:57.38 | XenoX | I figure if you wanna play dota, go play dot a;p |
| 12:57.40 | XenoX | dota* |
| 12:58.45 | Clord | it is because real big budget games has appeared |
| 12:58.50 | Clord | so those DotA players went to them |
| 12:59.54 | Clord | lol hell... Icefrog + Valve registered DotA trademark |
| 12:59.55 | Clord | XD |
| 13:00.05 | Clord | from that point community really lost their ball ;) |
| 13:01.27 | XenoX | yeah there's like 5 dota games now |
| 13:01.38 | XenoX | including valve's one |
| 13:02.20 | Clord | I must say... after 46 cards... it is really hard to implement vital cards lol XD |
| 13:02.30 | XenoX | lol, well more isn't always merrier ;p |
| 13:03.06 | XenoX | I'm making a map with heroes, but there's only 6 of them |
| 13:03.10 | Dekar | looking for map tester on EU |
| 13:03.14 | XenoX | well actually there's only 4 at the moment but I hope to get 6 |
| 13:04.34 | Clord | I have this bit problem.. 10mb limit |
| 13:04.35 | Clord | I wonder |
| 13:04.43 | Clord | how to hell everything gonna fit XD |
| 13:04.47 | XenoX | yeah thats a real problem |
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| 13:04.51 | XenoX | really want them to fix that |
| 13:05.01 | XenoX | rofl Skizot? |
| 13:05.06 | XenoX | project revolution skizot? |
| 13:05.38 | Skizot | yes? |
| 13:05.55 | XenoX | I remember you from wc3 campaigns |
| 13:06.01 | XenoX | I used to regular their chat |
| 13:06.09 | Skizot | k |
| 13:06.09 | XenoX | s'pose you dont remember me |
| 13:06.16 | Skizot | same name? |
| 13:06.21 | XenoX101 | this one |
| 13:06.22 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 13:06.30 | Skizot | not ringing a bell |
| 13:06.45 | XenoX101 | all good, man |
| 13:06.50 | XenoX101 | its been years |
| 13:06.56 | Skizot | no soubt |
| 13:07.00 | Skizot | doubt* |
| 13:07.26 | XenoX101 | what've you been up to lately |
| 13:07.43 | Skizot | sc2 mods, tf2 mods, and making my own game. |
| 13:08.03 | XenoX101 | nice |
| 13:08.07 | XenoX101 | got any links? |
| 13:09.03 | Skizot | my youtube has my sc2 stuff |
| 13:09.06 | Skizot | well a couple of em. |
| 13:09.19 | XenoX101 | yeah I've seen your dragoon |
| 13:09.21 | XenoX101 | and guardian |
| 13:09.39 | Skizot | yup |
| 13:09.57 | Clord | I can add few more cards and then boom! limit reached :) |
| 13:10.00 | XenoX101 | you looking at remaking SC in the SC2 engine? |
| 13:10.46 | XenoX101 | thats terrible |
| 13:10.56 | Skizot | something like that |
| 13:11.30 | XenoX101 | I remember I was trying to help you out with texturing the starport in PR |
| 13:11.37 | XenoX101 | failed miserably ;p |
| 13:11.50 | Skizot | haha |
| 13:11.54 | Skizot | alot of us did. |
| 13:12.00 | Skizot | terran buildings are a bitch |
| 13:12.09 | XenoX101 | yeah they're the most detailed in SC2 as well |
| 13:12.13 | XenoX101 | all the rust and dirt and stuff |
| 13:12.15 | Skizot | zhenyok is just NUTS at how good he was/is |
| 13:12.25 | XenoX101 | yeah I was amazed by the texturework |
| 13:12.30 | XenoX101 | looked EXACTLY like SC1 |
| 13:12.53 | XenoX101 | sans low res ofcourse ;p |
| 13:13.25 | XenoX101 | have you got any maps going? |
| 13:14.03 | Dekar | last call, need map tester on EU |
| 13:14.13 | Dekar | Helral|Work |
| 13:14.15 | Dekar | D: |
| 13:14.50 | Skizot | i was working on my own custom map. |
| 13:15.05 | Skizot | i need to get the player models animated and possibly a better WASD system. |
| 13:15.33 | XenoX101 | yeah WASD is messed up, I wanted to use it on my own map but the lag issues just make it painful |
| 13:16.03 | Skizot | if you play singleplayer, my map is freaking great |
| 13:16.12 | XenoX101 | ah I see |
| 13:16.31 | Skizot | i need to touch up some of the bugs that have been added in patches, and make a new video. |
| 13:16.44 | XenoX101 | you got a download link? |
| 13:16.44 | Skizot | i have an older one on my you tube. |
| 13:17.03 | Skizot | back when there was a zerg base instead of a infested base |
| 13:17.06 | Skizot | not atm. |
| 13:17.14 | Skizot | it's not anywhere NEAR what i would call done. |
| 13:17.15 | XenoX101 | ah right |
| 13:17.30 | XenoX101 | fair enough |
| 13:17.47 | XenoX101 | whats it about? |
| 13:17.49 | Skizot | it has the worst bug ever for the top town parts. |
| 13:17.56 | Skizot | ever play contra? |
| 13:18.07 | XenoX101 | oh yes |
| 13:18.29 | Skizot | check my youtube for terran conflict smooth version :D |
| 13:20.30 | XenoX101 | this is nice |
| 13:20.36 | XenoX101 | gotta agree about the firing sound though ;p |
| 13:20.43 | Skizot | tough titties :P |
| 13:20.50 | Skizot | each gun has it's own firing sound now. |
| 13:20.58 | Skizot | there's like 5 weapons. |
| 13:21.20 | Skizot | regular flamethrower, acid gun, laser, and NUKE CANNON. |
| 13:21.23 | XenoX101 | ah right |
| 13:21.35 | XenoX101 | you could probably lower the volume |
| 13:21.36 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 13:21.37 | Skizot | regular and flamethrower as seperate |
| 13:21.48 | Skizot | the sound is being played on the unit. |
| 13:22.30 | Skizot | it's just a really loud sound. |
| 13:23.26 | XenoX101 | you could swap it for another gun sound |
| 13:23.29 | XenoX101 | like, a custom one |
| 13:23.32 | Skizot | i have. |
| 13:23.38 | Skizot | it's better, i think |
| 13:23.46 | Skizot | that's also a quite old version. |
| 13:23.51 | XenoX101 | ah right |
| 13:23.53 | Skizot | a few version back |
| 13:24.04 | XenoX101 | looks nice though, and I like the firing system |
| 13:24.17 | XenoX101 | 180* |
| 13:24.54 | XenoX101 | it'd be nice to see some vertical shooter based bullet dodging required on the bosses |
| 13:25.15 | XenoX101 | I think contra was like that too |
| 13:25.20 | XenoX101 | memory's a bit hazy |
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| 13:34.59 | Skizot | hmmm |
| 13:35.30 | Skizot | so other than my first bosses death outro playing everytime i kill an infested terran. |
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| 13:35.57 | Skizot | i can get through the first two bosses pretty easily. |
| 13:36.33 | XenoX101 | ah yeah |
| 13:36.52 | XenoX101 | you should make it so that its a real challenge |
| 13:36.54 | XenoX101 | contra was a bitch |
| 13:38.08 | Skizot | i die when i enter the tunnel |
| 13:38.10 | Skizot | :/ |
| 13:39.05 | XenoX101 | ah fair enough |
| 13:39.19 | XenoX101 | should get some uber pro to play it |
| 13:39.22 | XenoX101 | on hardest difficulty |
| 13:39.28 | XenoX101 | see if it can be beat |
| 13:39.33 | XenoX101 | if it can, leave it at that |
| 13:40.00 | Skizot | well i die because my camera is fucked |
| 13:40.08 | Skizot | and my unit doesn't look forward XD |
| 13:40.39 | XenoX101 | oh lol |
| 13:41.44 | Skizot | if i use a trigger to do it. |
| 13:41.47 | Skizot | it works fine. |
| 13:42.02 | Skizot | and i DO have a hidden SUPERHARD mode |
| 13:42.19 | Skizot | where all the item blimps drop hydralisk instead of weapons. |
| 13:42.57 | XenoX101 | heh nice |
| 13:44.17 | XenoX101 | I'm working on a map myself, but its very early days yet |
| 13:44.40 | XenoX101 | its basically a spellcaster arena combined with king of the hill, but with a number of hills |
| 13:46.01 | Skizot | what the hell. |
| 13:46.24 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 13:46.42 | XenoX101 | it'll be interesting |
| 13:47.34 | Skizot | my flamethrower icon is black instead of orange :/ |
| 13:48.43 | XenoX101 | hm, wouldn't know, I'm a noob at the map editor ;p |
| 13:48.50 | Skizot | it's the texture |
| 13:48.59 | Skizot | apparently it has a hidden alpha channel on it. |
| 13:49.03 | XenoX101 | ah yeah |
| 13:49.09 | XenoX101 | photoshop can handle that |
| 13:49.26 | XenoX101 | you probably used the selection tool and it made a new alpha layer |
| 13:49.43 | Skizot | nah it's just from beta |
| 13:49.48 | Skizot | when the colors HAD alphas |
| 13:49.52 | XenoX101 | ah |
| 13:50.34 | Skizot | was gonna take a screenshot if the icons for ya :/ |
| 13:51.01 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 13:51.14 | XenoX101 | well I can imagine it |
| 13:51.16 | XenoX101 | being orange ;p |
| 13:51.33 | Skizot | well you can't SEE it as black |
| 13:51.36 | Skizot | that's the issue XD |
| 13:53.03 | XenoX101 | ah ok |
| 13:55.19 | Skizot | ugh |
| 13:55.36 | Skizot | the GE is so fucking stupid when it comes to adding and removing textures :/ |
| 13:56.24 | XenoX101 | yeah it looked a bit funny when I had a peak |
| 13:56.32 | XenoX101 | but its better than using a third party tool like in WC3 |
| 13:56.48 | Skizot | huh? |
| 13:57.11 | XenoX101 | WC3 editor didnt have a graphics editor did it |
| 13:57.33 | XenoX101 | oh wait |
| 13:57.34 | XenoX101 | GE, galaxy editor |
| 13:57.37 | XenoX101 | I'm an idiot lol |
| 13:57.38 | Skizot | importing |
| 13:57.41 | Skizot | lol |
| 13:57.43 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 13:57.44 | XenoX101 | forget me |
| 13:57.55 | Skizot | who are you? |
| 13:57.57 | XenoX101 | but you're right the data editor is a piece of shit |
| 13:58.00 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 13:58.03 | Skizot | lol |
| 13:58.10 | Skizot | it's not the data editor |
| 13:58.13 | Skizot | it's the importer |
| 13:58.20 | XenoX101 | isn't it part of it? |
| 13:58.24 | Skizot | import texture CLOSE AND RESTART |
| 13:58.34 | Skizot | then you can see a 2k texture you added |
| 13:59.31 | XenoX101 | yeah thats pretty dumb |
| 14:00.21 | Skizot | i would PREFER a 3rd party tool if it did it right |
| 14:01.27 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 14:01.35 | XenoX101 | omg rod of nod |
| 14:01.40 | XenoX101 | I remember him from wc3c |
| 14:02.07 | Skizot | NO TALKING TO MY CODE SLAVE |
| 14:02.25 | XenoX101 | haha |
| 14:03.14 | XenoX101 | how are you dealing with the 10mb limit in sc2 |
| 14:04.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster th15 (~t@cm118.kappa174.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 14:06.02 | Skizot | son of a BIIIIIIII |
| 14:08.44 | XenoX101 | not working? |
| 14:11.55 | Skizot | no it keeps using the OLD texture |
| 14:11.58 | Skizot | like it cached it |
| 14:16.01 | XenoX101 | classic, probably has it linked somewhere |
| 14:16.35 | Skizot | is there a mpq editor that works with sc2 maps? |
| 14:17.16 | XenoX101 | doubtful |
| 14:17.18 | Skizot | Ladik MPQ Editor |
| 14:18.52 | Skizot | if i can change it that way it MIGHT work |
| 14:19.54 | Skizot | argh |
| 14:19.57 | Skizot | shitty internet |
| 14:20.03 | Skizot | http://www.sc2c.org/showthread.php?t=154 |
| 14:20.07 | Skizot | go there and get me a download link |
| 14:21.20 | XenoX101 | err? |
| 14:21.21 | XenoX101 | http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html |
| 14:23.20 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 14:23.37 | A1win | is it possible to get trigger variables into actor message values |
| 14:23.54 | Helral|Work | yup |
| 14:23.59 | A1win | how? o: |
| 14:24.06 | Helral|Work | I can even send a chat message as an actor message. |
| 14:24.14 | Helral|Work | convert string to actor message |
| 14:24.19 | A1win | ah |
| 14:24.24 | Helral|Work | I think something like that was available |
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| 14:37.46 | Clord | gotta test new cards before release... to just make sure everything works fine XD |
| 14:40.03 | XenoX101 | what server you on |
| 14:41.04 | A1win | woo now my kerrigan turns more red depending on how much rage she has |
| 14:41.15 | Dekar | woot woot |
| 14:41.26 | A1win | except that it's bugging :P |
| 14:41.51 | A1win | oh yeah I forgot to change it when it decreases too ;p |
| 14:42.11 | Dekar | anyone up for testing at EU? |
| 14:43.29 | Helral|Work | A1win when she's totally red she explodes due to too much rage? |
| 14:44.22 | A1win | ;I |
| 14:44.36 | A1win | maybe she could start playing the Pissed sounds then |
| 14:44.46 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 14:44.59 | Skizot | UGH |
| 14:45.05 | Skizot | i HATE the editor :( |
| 14:45.07 | Helral|Work | hey Skizot |
| 14:45.11 | Helral|Work | what's wrong? |
| 14:46.16 | A1win | yay now it works |
| 14:47.01 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 14:47.17 | Helral|Work | hits kerrigan using cat-fu and knocks her out. |
| 14:47.24 | Helral|Work | wonders why she didn't turn red.... |
| 14:47.32 | A1win | uh I should really implement these attacks as effects instead of triggers :I would make it easier to change values |
| 14:47.42 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 14:48.18 | A1win | well the damage is an effect, just applying it using trigger :P |
| 14:48.24 | A1win | but should just use attack ability |
| 14:51.53 | Dekar | i cant publish anymore |
| 14:51.54 | Dekar | ;_; |
| 14:52.54 | Helral|Work | why not? |
| 14:53.05 | Helral|Work | did a cat sever your connection? |
| 14:53.09 | Helral|Work | meows innocently |
| 14:53.21 | A1win | this is cool ^^ |
| 14:53.24 | Dekar | >_> |
| 14:53.34 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 14:53.37 | Skizot | MOTHER FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 14:54.02 | Dekar | the filetranfer window shows it as pink |
| 14:54.15 | Helral|Work | Dekar: I can't publish, A1win: this is cool, Skizot: #$%#$% ..... hmmmm some weird replies going on there.... |
| 14:54.36 | Skizot | my flamethrower icon REFUSES to work. |
| 14:54.45 | Helral|Work | hmmmm |
| 14:54.56 | A1win | I'm talking to myself ;I |
| 14:54.56 | Helral|Work | that icon is for usage in a map I suppose? |
| 14:55.05 | Skizot | it's a model. |
| 14:55.12 | Helral|Work | ah |
| 14:55.22 | Helral|Work | thought of an icon not a model. |
| 14:55.34 | Helral|Work | hmmmm the model is blue or ? |
| 14:55.39 | Helral|Work | just missing? |
| 14:56.17 | Skizot | it's just crap |
| 14:56.35 | Helral|Work | partial blue? |
| 14:56.49 | Skizot | just black |
| 14:57.06 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 14:57.09 | Skizot | i made a new one.... and it's locking up the editor |
| 14:57.16 | Helral|Work | :S |
| 14:57.24 | Helral|Work | the reference to the textures is correct? |
| 14:57.53 | Helral|Work | not like that time with the blue chests ingame for me ;p |
| 14:57.55 | Arthas- | Skizot |
| 14:58.02 | Arthas- | you need to stop doing things the wrong way like me |
| 14:58.23 | Arthas- | ~seen Dustin |
| 14:58.31 | purl | dustin <Dustin@ip72-209-158-12.ks.ks.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 15h 23m 4s ago, saying: 'Add in jump and strafeing'. |
| 14:58.31 | Helral|Work | Arthas-: explain Skizot how not to do it ;p you know that best ;p |
| 14:59.44 | Arthas- | i usually do stuff by opening editor, ignore the obvious things like 'Icon', head for something that could remotely be identified as an image. paste the blob and fail! |
| 14:59.55 | Skizot | see it WORKS |
| 15:00.02 | Skizot | just it's being goofy as hell. |
| 15:00.07 | Skizot | and using a black texture :/ |
| 15:00.08 | Helral|Work | lol. |
| 15:00.21 | Helral|Work | all I can think off is a texture mismatch or something alike |
| 15:00.21 | Arthas- | well, on a serious note, that could be SC2 aswell :p |
| 15:00.39 | Arthas- | its known for doing stuff its own way :p |
| 15:00.43 | Arthas- | ah well, food now :D |
| 15:01.02 | Helral|Work | hides the food. |
| 15:02.17 | Skizot | hmmmmmmmm |
| 15:03.26 | Helral|Work | Skizot: is the relative path for the textures compared to the model the same in your map as in your 3d editing tool? |
| 15:03.48 | Skizot | they worked before. |
| 15:03.52 | Skizot | nothing has changed. |
| 15:03.53 | Helral|Work | hmmmm |
| 15:04.05 | Helral|Work | did you shutdown sc2 entire and restarted? |
| 15:04.12 | Helral|Work | for the test purpose. |
| 15:04.52 | Skizot | see it's this FUCKED UP importer |
| 15:04.58 | Skizot | i know it is. |
| 15:05.04 | Skizot | i delete the old offending texture. |
| 15:05.13 | Skizot | save import new texture |
| 15:05.13 | Helral|Work | and now it works? |
| 15:05.21 | Skizot | and it's STILL THE OLD TEXTURE |
| 15:05.52 | Helral|Work | hmmm Skizot: try the following: delete the texture, save, restart editor, import new texture directly to the correct path, save, test. |
| 15:06.54 | Skizot | i know hows the models works. |
| 15:07.10 | Skizot | if i delete the textre and svaew |
| 15:07.13 | Skizot | close |
| 15:07.15 | Skizot | reopen |
| 15:07.19 | Skizot | IT'S STILL BLACK |
| 15:07.49 | Skizot | which mean it's STILL reading the old texture somehow. |
| 15:07.52 | Helral|Work | hmmmm..... |
| 15:08.01 | Helral|Work | is it reading the old texture or a blizzard texture? |
| 15:08.07 | Helral|Work | ow wait |
| 15:08.16 | Helral|Work | is it reading the texture from your hd instead of from your import map |
| 15:08.35 | Helral|Work | like in did you accidently use an absolute texture path instead of relative. |
| 15:08.40 | Skizot | nope |
| 15:08.57 | Helral|Work | hmmmm |
| 15:09.25 | Helral|Work | can help you test it further in 2 hours, when I'm home :( |
| 15:09.25 | Skizot | i know me models :P |
| 15:09.42 | Helral|Work | I assume you do ;) |
| 15:10.11 | Helral|Work | but I know my triggers and even I forget sometimes to reset some value or another. |
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| 15:11.04 | XenoX101 | hey has anyone here ever made a hero type map? |
| 15:11.12 | XenoX101 | sorry, a hero deathmatch type map |
| 15:11.17 | XenoX101 | like anything at all resembling dota |
| 15:11.34 | Skizot | weeeird |
| 15:11.41 | Skizot | this one has an alpha mask. |
| 15:11.43 | Helral|Work | XenoX101: like Sotis? |
| 15:11.47 | Skizot | while the rest don't |
| 15:12.07 | Helral|Work | XenoX101: someone prolly has ;p |
| 15:12.10 | XenoX101 | Helral|Work: , actually pretty much anything hero deathmatch related |
| 15:12.28 | XenoX101 | I'm wondering about balancing hero theory |
| 15:13.23 | XenoX101 | like |
| 15:14.00 | XenoX101 | making sure that no hero is any bigger of a counter to the other heroes |
| 15:14.06 | XenoX101 | difficult to explain |
| 15:14.08 | Helral|Work | hmmm well I'd say you'd need to balance 2 things: health and avoidance, dps. although I've little knowledge about this ;p |
| 15:14.25 | XenoX101 | yeah, I've got a few factors |
| 15:14.31 | Helral|Work | hehehe :) |
| 15:14.59 | XenoX101 | I've got hero placement, spell area of effect, damage, health, speed of spell, speed of hero |
| 15:15.06 | XenoX101 | I've got like a simple heirarchy going |
| 15:15.19 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 15:15.22 | XenoX101 | but I was wondering if anyone had done any kind of brainstorming/theorycraft on it |
| 15:16.01 | Helral|Work | you can always go for the triangle setup: Str -> Int -> Agi -> Str (-> = beats) |
| 15:16.22 | Helral|Work | but then it just depends on the unit type. |
| 15:16.29 | XenoX101 | yeah I'm kinda working on a different system |
| 15:16.33 | XenoX101 | its very spell based |
| 15:17.11 | Helral|Work | if it's purely spell based then don't have any spells that deal more then 30% health dmg unless it's also dangerous to the caster. |
| 15:17.40 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 15:17.43 | XenoX101 | lol yeah |
| 15:17.47 | XenoX101 | I'm aware of stuff like that |
| 15:17.57 | Helral|Work | well I only know those basic stuff. |
| 15:18.13 | XenoX101 | yeah, nah thats cool thanks for trying to help ;p |
| 15:18.28 | XenoX101 | if you want a bit better of an idea I can send you what I've got briefly |
| 15:19.06 | Skizot | STUPID GAME. |
| 15:19.09 | Helral|Work | I'm at work maybe later. |
| 15:19.11 | XenoX101 | hoping I can find someone to collaborate |
| 15:19.13 | XenoX101 | with |
| 15:19.16 | XenoX101 | * |
| 15:19.17 | XenoX101 | ah yeah right lol |
| 15:19.26 | Helral|Work | looks questioningly at Skizot ranting at sc2. |
| 15:20.36 | Helral|Work | has a complaint |
| 15:20.43 | Helral|Work | thinks it's too bloody cold. |
| 15:20.43 | Dekar | Str -> Int -> Agi -> Str (-> = beats) |
| 15:20.49 | Dekar | this is kinda WC3 based |
| 15:20.54 | Helral|Work | yup ;p |
| 15:21.06 | Dekar | and is based on armor |
| 15:21.19 | Helral|Work | it's actually a bit different than what wc3 did exactly. |
| 15:21.21 | Dekar | because spells ignore agi armor and kill their low hp away |
| 15:21.36 | Dekar | while str can tank spells |
| 15:21.47 | Skizot | i can NOT change that texture :( |
| 15:21.54 | Dekar | in SC2 |
| 15:21.57 | Dekar | it would be |
| 15:22.09 | Dekar | slow wepaons, fast weapons, armor |
| 15:22.13 | Dekar | or something like that |
| 15:22.17 | Dekar | based on these at least |
| 15:22.19 | Dekar | and spells |
| 15:22.35 | Dekar | fast weapons get owned by armor |
| 15:22.37 | XenoX101 | yeah thats one of my things |
| 15:22.41 | XenoX101 | fast weapons kill fast units |
| 15:22.46 | XenoX101 | slow weapons kill slow units |
| 15:22.49 | Helral|Work | btw Dekar the complete scheme would contain: Str weak vs Str, Agi avg vs Agi, Int strong vs Int |
| 15:23.03 | Dekar | ! |
| 15:23.29 | Dekar | well i guess |
| 15:23.36 | Dekar | spells = slow weapons |
| 15:23.46 | Dekar | because both are good against high armored targets |
| 15:23.54 | XenoX101 | well I'm using spells for fast and slow eapons |
| 15:23.58 | XenoX101 | weapons* |
| 15:24.06 | Dekar | spellcaster |
| 15:24.11 | XenoX101 | and basically slower units will have higher health |
| 15:24.11 | Dekar | with lots of damage spells |
| 15:24.18 | XenoX101 | so you will need to use slow weapons on slow units |
| 15:24.22 | XenoX101 | because fast weapons do shit dmg |
| 15:24.25 | XenoX101 | in my model |
| 15:24.40 | Dekar | if everything can be customized enough |
| 15:24.55 | Dekar | then dont forget to bring range into the equation |
| 15:24.59 | Dekar | kiting slow units |
| 15:25.01 | XenoX101 | ah good point |
| 15:25.06 | XenoX101 | I forgot about range |
| 15:25.10 | XenoX101 | thanks for that |
| 15:25.40 | XenoX101 | damn I knew this would be hard lol |
| 15:25.49 | XenoX101 | Dekar do you want to have a look at what I've got so far? |
| 15:25.56 | Dekar | ok |
| 15:26.15 | XenoX101 | sec |
| 15:26.26 | Helral|Work | btw something to look out for: fast attacker: hits 20 times compared to slow attacker. deals 20 times less dmg though. unit with armor 20: fast attacker deals 1 dmg per hit due to armor, slow attacker deals 2 dmg per hit due to armor. |
| 15:27.08 | Dekar | well, the sc2 armor system needs really good balancing |
| 15:27.10 | Dekar | that is for sure |
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| 15:27.15 | XenoX101 | yeah I think I'm going to avoid armor |
| 15:27.18 | XenoX101 | except for certain units |
| 15:27.27 | XenoX101 | Dekar whats your email? |
| 15:27.31 | Helral|Work | wonders if Arthas- found his food yet. |
| 15:27.37 | Dekar | dekarUD@googlemail.com |
| 15:27.44 | XenoX101 | googlemail? |
| 15:27.53 | XenoX101 | is that a real domain? |
| 15:28.23 | XenoX101 | well here goes nothin |
| 15:28.40 | Dekar | lol |
| 15:28.53 | Dekar | yes it should work |
| 15:28.57 | Helral|Work | it's the same as @google.com if I remember correctly ;p |
| 15:29.04 | XenoX101 | ic |
| 15:29.07 | Helral|Work | or gmail was it. |
| 15:29.12 | Helral|Work | can't remember ;p |
| 15:29.15 | Helral|Work | gmail I think |
| 15:29.16 | XenoX101 | so my map is |
| 15:29.21 | XenoX101 | a spellcaster map |
| 15:29.28 | XenoX101 | so you wont see any melee damage |
| 15:29.29 | XenoX101 | or anything |
| 15:29.41 | XenoX101 | and I'm trying to have each class fulfill a purpose |
| 15:30.01 | XenoX101 | and also, most importantly, you cant get all the skills in a single game |
| 15:30.06 | XenoX101 | from a given class |
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| 15:30.38 | XenoX101 | if you could give some feedback on the philosophy I've got on the right side |
| 15:30.39 | Dekar | ok |
| 15:30.41 | Ashamed | i ordered my new pc :) |
| 15:30.45 | XenoX101 | and the spells and stuff |
| 15:30.53 | XenoX101 | would be great |
| 15:32.19 | XenoX101 | its still very early too, so dont be too harsh ;p |
| 15:32.27 | Dekar | :P |
| 15:32.33 | Dekar | ~10 skills per class, yes? |
| 15:32.49 | XenoX101 | it will probably be about 15 in the full |
| 15:32.50 | Dekar | and dota style map? |
| 15:32.58 | XenoX101 | per game |
| 15:32.58 | XenoX101 | with a choice of 4 |
| 15:33.07 | XenoX101 | not really dota style |
| 15:33.12 | XenoX101 | its actually kind of complicated |
| 15:33.35 | XenoX101 | but basically it will be like king of the hill |
| 15:33.37 | Skizot | thank &%*$ it's fixed |
| 15:33.38 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/icons.png |
| 15:33.42 | XenoX101 | but with many hills |
| 15:33.48 | Dekar | and with computer controlled units? |
| 15:33.54 | XenoX101 | no computer controlled units |
| 15:34.03 | Dekar | so its more like a hero arena? |
| 15:34.09 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 15:34.29 | XenoX101 | but with a bit of base building |
| 15:34.32 | XenoX101 | like with the constructer |
| 15:35.14 | XenoX101 | I don't wanna give too much away but yeah :P |
| 15:35.20 | Dekar | :D |
| 15:35.28 | Clord | graviton beam range does not like to be extended XD |
| 15:35.55 | XenoX101 | hah |
| 15:36.57 | A1win | why does kerrigan's face look like some ogre in the low def model |
| 15:37.40 | XenoX101 | have you ever tried painting something with a fat brush? |
| 15:37.55 | XenoX101 | same principle ;p |
| 15:38.15 | currydevil | Anyone encountered problems applying behaviors to a unit from an effect - instant ability from a neutral bldg after control is gained by the said unit? |
| 15:39.37 | Clord | ability - cancelable ^^ |
| 15:39.43 | Clord | I might have found why graviton beam got canceled |
| 15:39.44 | Clord | lol |
| 15:40.42 | currydevil | noooobody knows =| |
| 15:40.57 | Dekar | weeeeeeeeeeeeeell |
| 15:41.30 | Dekar | XenoX101, these labels dont help me that much :p |
| 15:41.51 | Dekar | but i guess for a system where you can pick your own skills |
| 15:41.53 | Helral|Work | currydevil: meow? |
| 15:42.11 | Dekar | they work |
| 15:42.23 | Helral|Work | currydevil: use effect - apply behavior? |
| 15:42.24 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 15:42.25 | currydevil | something like that Helral |
| 15:42.31 | currydevil | Well, here's the deal |
| 15:42.42 | XenoX101 | yeah I'm trying to get some organizing system in there |
| 15:42.50 | currydevil | Neutral bldg has ability (unit gains control of bldg, uses ability but gets no behavior) |
| 15:42.52 | XenoX101 | I'm not going to show people those labels |
| 15:42.54 | currydevil | ability chain is this |
| 15:43.09 | currydevil | Ability (instant) > apply behavior > buff |
| 15:43.10 | XenoX101 | they're just for me to be able to ensure every hero has a speciality and that they overall cancel eachother out |
| 15:43.11 | Dekar | summoner may be a bit boring at the moment |
| 15:43.21 | XenoX101 | yeah I've been thinking of how to add to him |
| 15:43.27 | Dekar | maybe some ability to move his summons around |
| 15:43.32 | Dekar | "commands" |
| 15:43.32 | XenoX101 | oh nah he can |
| 15:43.33 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 15:43.37 | Dekar | hmm |
| 15:43.37 | Helral|Work | what unit should get the buff? |
| 15:43.40 | XenoX101 | he is a micro intensive hero |
| 15:43.47 | currydevil | the unit that gains control of the bldg |
| 15:43.48 | XenoX101 | but he can only move them around him, so he cant just camp |
| 15:43.50 | Dekar | i thought they stay in a circle aroudn him :p |
| 15:43.53 | Dekar | if they can keep up |
| 15:43.53 | XenoX101 | yeah they do |
| 15:43.55 | Dekar | aha |
| 15:43.56 | Dekar | ! |
| 15:43.59 | currydevil | but i've been having trouble trying to specify that unit |
| 15:44.02 | currydevil | exactly. |
| 15:44.03 | Helral|Work | so you need an ability target then. |
| 15:44.14 | Helral|Work | because it should target an unit which should receive a buff. |
| 15:44.15 | currydevil | well, that's the thing. I was looking at Vail's map |
| 15:44.22 | currydevil | and his abilities are effect - instant |
| 15:44.26 | currydevil | and they apply the buff just fine |
| 15:44.39 | Helral|Work | do they have an searcheffect that applies the buff? |
| 15:44.41 | currydevil | I was trying to work out a problem he was having |
| 15:44.52 | currydevil | the ability has a search area yes |
| 15:44.57 | currydevil | well |
| 15:44.58 | XenoX101 | if you can think of any more abilities for my heroes |
| 15:45.00 | currydevil | it has an arc |
| 15:45.03 | XenoX101 | I'll be happy to consider them :) |
| 15:45.08 | Skizot | ..... |
| 15:45.10 | Dekar | will there be items to buy too? |
| 15:45.11 | Helral|Work | a search area defines the targets. |
| 15:45.12 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/icons.png |
| 15:45.12 | currydevil | I was thinking about putting on a search area though |
| 15:45.15 | XenoX101 | nah no items |
| 15:45.35 | nicoli_s | Skizot:nice |
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| 15:45.36 | currydevil | well, the ability itself has an arc and target filters |
| 15:45.37 | Helral|Work | what should the building do exactly? an aura tower? |
| 15:45.44 | currydevil | no, not really |
| 15:45.53 | XenoX101 | its not going to be like a normal rpg |
| 15:45.53 | Skizot | i was wondering if i should make an extra life one. |
| 15:46.03 | currydevil | I'm not sure 100% on his, but he's trying to do tome buffs like wc3 or something |
| 15:46.16 | Helral|Work | those are items. |
| 15:46.20 | Helral|Work | used on pickup. |
| 15:46.23 | currydevil | so atm, the buff is only supposed to be applied when the player uses the ability on the building |
| 15:46.29 | currydevil | well, he was just testing it atm |
| 15:46.32 | Skizot | ? |
| 15:46.40 | Skizot | hey helral... |
| 15:46.44 | Helral|Work | yo Skizot |
| 15:46.48 | Skizot | are you good at making pickup items? |
| 15:46.56 | currydevil | and I would like for it to apply to the unit that gained control of the bldg |
| 15:46.56 | Helral|Work | I can, why? |
| 15:46.57 | Skizot | my system is a bit... broken. |
| 15:47.01 | Dekar | i guess stuff like the area poison, summon rings and towers are useful in king of the hill |
| 15:47.04 | Skizot | all the items are turrets. |
| 15:47.20 | harl | wuff! |
| 15:47.21 | Dekar | escpeially useful |
| 15:47.22 | Helral|Work | Skizot: make an item with an instant ability. when picked up trigger the use using the data editor ;p |
| 15:47.33 | Dekar | yeah |
| 15:47.37 | Dekar | use trigger! D: |
| 15:47.46 | Skizot | mine uses triggers |
| 15:47.53 | Skizot | if the turret targets a unit. |
| 15:47.54 | Helral|Work | the triggering is done with the pickup effect if I'm correct. |
| 15:47.59 | Skizot | remove turret, add ability |
| 15:48.08 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 15:48.12 | Dekar | off to pwn a certain xa ra goth in tf2 |
| 15:48.15 | A1win | what else do I need to set for a buff to get it reduce damage taken than Combat - Damage Response - Modify Fraction |
| 15:48.30 | Skizot | it WORKS... |
| 15:48.39 | Skizot | just wondering if there was a better way |
| 15:48.39 | XenoX101 | kk |
| 15:48.49 | Helral|Work | well I'll take a look when I get hom Skizot ;p |
| 15:48.59 | Helral|Work | now I'm first gonna finish my work for today. |
| 15:49.07 | Helral|Work | goes back to work. |
| 15:49.11 | A1win | if buff duration is 0, is that infinite or does it just disappear? or is -1 infinite? |
| 15:49.31 | Helral|Work | will be back in 1 hour or less. |
| 15:49.51 | currydevil | -1 is infinite |
| 15:49.57 | currydevil | well |
| 15:50.04 | currydevil | if you leave duration at 0 that works |
| 15:50.14 | currydevil | i think default is 0 for buff durations |
| 15:50.34 | A1win | the buff just isn't reducing damage :I |
| 15:50.52 | A1win | I set the modify fraction to 0.1 but takes the same amount |
| 15:55.44 | A1win | ahh |
| 15:55.48 | A1win | had to set chance to 1 ;p |
| 16:02.21 | Dekar | ofc! |
| 16:18.03 | Clord | this block http setting in peerblock is truly tinfoil hat setting |
| 16:26.14 | A1win | damn this map eats CPU, can't even cast it on livestream without getting pixelated ;p |
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| 16:31.54 | Obatztrara | hi :) |
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| 16:38.08 | Helral | meows |
| 16:38.35 | Helral | hmmm no skizot anymore :( |
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| 16:53.52 | Helral | wonders who will respond.... |
| 16:53.58 | Helral | hey Toby |
| 16:54.01 | Helral | grins |
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| 17:01.37 | A1win | took a new tech demo ^^ will take a while to compress and upload it though |
| 17:03.06 | JManV | tech demo? |
| 17:05.58 | A1win | video of my map ;p |
| 17:06.03 | A1win | showing the features |
| 17:06.04 | JManV | ah |
| 17:06.12 | JManV | what do you use to capture game video? |
| 17:07.23 | A1win | fraps |
| 17:07.36 | JManV | ah |
| 17:07.42 | JManV | was just looking at the site |
| 17:07.53 | JManV | the free version has watermark and limited record time? |
| 17:08.05 | A1win | I guess so D: |
| 17:08.28 | A1win | I have.. obtained.. the full version |
| 17:08.33 | JManV | gotcha |
| 17:08.38 | JManV | torrent? |
| 17:09.00 | A1win | mm it's been a while since I got it though |
| 17:09.41 | JManV | yeah i found a torrent no problem |
| 17:09.41 | JManV | bunches actually |
| 17:10.30 | A1win | I'm downloading windows media player 10 so I get some stuff to be able to compress my audio as mp3 to the video x> |
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| 17:12.12 | Obatztrara | I dont get it ffs |
| 17:12.26 | Obatztrara | I have this action definition |
| 17:12.36 | Obatztrara | it loads a couple of buildings for a player |
| 17:12.49 | A1win | actually I think I'll just upload this without audio since it's not really permitted to upload copyrighted songs on youtube ;I |
| 17:13.07 | Obatztrara | when I add it to the loading trigger where all the other stuff is loaded, it just loads HAAAALF of the buildings |
| 17:13.09 | JManV | yeah cuz that's enforced |
| 17:13.32 | JManV | oba: it there an error message? |
| 17:13.41 | Obatztrara | when I make a trigger where I just press a button and then the action definiton is started for that player it loads all buildings |
| 17:13.52 | Obatztrara | there is no msg |
| 17:14.01 | Obatztrara | the problem is that it loads only half of the buildings |
| 17:14.04 | Obatztrara | HALF |
| 17:14.07 | Obatztrara | how the hell? =( |
| 17:14.12 | JManV | load = create? |
| 17:14.21 | Obatztrara | yes, create |
| 17:14.27 | Obatztrara | the save files are good |
| 17:14.31 | A1win | is there room for them? |
| 17:14.34 | Obatztrara | yes |
| 17:14.36 | Obatztrara | as I said |
| 17:14.37 | JManV | ok, so it's using banks? |
| 17:14.43 | Dekar | hi |
| 17:14.48 | Obatztrara | when i start the action def manually it loads all buildings correctly |
| 17:14.52 | Obatztrara | yes |
| 17:14.56 | Obatztrara | hey dekar |
| 17:15.11 | JManV | perhaps your banks are initialized fully before the action runs? |
| 17:15.27 | JManV | maybe the initialization and loading routine are running concurrently? |
| 17:15.40 | Obatztrara | there is 10 seconds between initialiting and preload and the actual loading trigger :( |
| 17:15.57 | JManV | ok |
| 17:16.02 | Obatztrara | and no matter if I load 10 or 100 buildings it will load only half of the time all the time |
| 17:16.14 | JManV | which half? is there any pattern to it? |
| 17:16.21 | Obatztrara | yes there is actually... |
| 17:16.25 | Obatztrara | always the second half |
| 17:16.36 | Obatztrara | hmm |
| 17:16.38 | JManV | exactly half? |
| 17:16.49 | Obatztrara | if its a round number yes |
| 17:16.57 | Obatztrara | if its not it will load one more I think |
| 17:17.01 | JManV | are they loaded in a loop? |
| 17:17.20 | Obatztrara | for loop |
| 17:17.30 | JManV | for integer? |
| 17:17.48 | Obatztrara | ah actually pick every integer from 1 to NumberofBuildings |
| 17:17.48 | Obatztrara | yes |
| 17:18.04 | JManV | hmmm |
| 17:18.13 | Obatztrara | I tried a while loop |
| 17:18.15 | Obatztrara | same result |
| 17:18.18 | A1win | debug message to show NumberofBuildings |
| 17:18.23 | JManV | its the literal value "1", right? |
| 17:18.30 | Obatztrara | it counts perfectly from 1 to the number |
| 17:18.55 | JManV | so you've got a debug message inside the loop? |
| 17:19.01 | Obatztrara | I had it print the unit, its position and the buildingnumber everytime |
| 17:19.12 | Obatztrara | and they were all correct |
| 17:19.28 | Obatztrara | but the unit was just not created |
| 17:19.34 | Obatztrara | first half of them that is |
| 17:20.23 | JManV | that is strange |
| 17:20.36 | Obatztrara | really the weird part is that ot WORKS when I call the action definition manually |
| 17:20.41 | Obatztrara | it* |
| 17:21.06 | Obatztrara | like: Player x presses l, then run action def. for player x |
| 17:21.11 | Obatztrara | works perfectly :( |
| 17:21.20 | Obatztrara | but in the trigger it doesnt |
| 17:21.39 | JManV | so the action definition is by player? |
| 17:21.49 | JManV | you've only got one player in the game tho, right? |
| 17:21.56 | Obatztrara | yes: LoadStashForPlayer(LoadingPlayer) |
| 17:22.00 | Obatztrara | no, 6 |
| 17:22.34 | JManV | is it loading half for each player? |
| 17:22.38 | Obatztrara | yes |
| 17:22.51 | Obatztrara | (btw I really appreciate the questions, maybe I have overlooked omething) |
| 17:23.03 | JManV | only way to get at the answer :) |
| 17:23.07 | Obatztrara | :) |
| 17:23.38 | JManV | how does you map initialization run? |
| 17:23.56 | JManV | is it one trigger that calls a bunch of actions? or multiple triggers? |
| 17:23.58 | Obatztrara | what do you mean? the bank part? |
| 17:24.07 | JManV | the entire thing |
| 17:24.13 | Obatztrara | well |
| 17:24.26 | Obatztrara | the loading process is initialized on player presses button |
| 17:24.34 | Obatztrara | which is possible after 10 seconds |
| 17:24.38 | Obatztrara | into the game |
| 17:25.03 | JManV | that version works? |
| 17:25.10 | Obatztrara | and thats one trigger for all players, but the trigger is deactivted briefly while the loading is running..also all the action def.s are threaded |
| 17:25.17 | Obatztrara | yes...? |
| 17:25.33 | JManV | all the action definitions are threaded? |
| 17:25.40 | Obatztrara | well not all actually |
| 17:25.51 | Obatztrara | There is on: LoadBankForPlayer(Player) |
| 17:25.57 | Obatztrara | that is threaded |
| 17:26.09 | Obatztrara | it calls the other LoadStashForPlayer which is not thrreaded |
| 17:26.25 | JManV | i'm really leaning towards it running concurrently with the preload |
| 17:26.29 | Obatztrara | LoadBankForPlayer is called whenever a player presses the button and has a save |
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| 17:26.33 | JManV | but wait, you're getting data |
| 17:26.41 | Obatztrara | but the preload is done right after map initialization |
| 17:26.54 | Obatztrara | theres at least 10 secondsin between |
| 17:27.01 | JManV | nvm, you wouldn't get data |
| 17:27.09 | Obatztrara | :) |
| 17:27.21 | Obatztrara | but you have a point |
| 17:27.29 | Obatztrara | it seems to work later in the game when I press the button |
| 17:27.30 | JManV | which create function are you using? |
| 17:27.51 | Obatztrara | Im sorry, I dont get the question (my editor is german) |
| 17:28.15 | JManV | well, are you using any options on create, like ignore placement? |
| 17:28.37 | Obatztrara | oh I'm just using the bank function "Restore unit" |
| 17:28.45 | JManV | o |
| 17:29.13 | JManV | restore unit doesn't restore position, does it? |
| 17:29.17 | Obatztrara | nope |
| 17:29.28 | Obatztrara | but I have the positions saved too |
| 17:29.34 | Obatztrara | I load those at the same time |
| 17:30.08 | JManV | ok |
| 17:30.16 | JManV | no units being loaded to the same position? |
| 17:30.19 | Obatztrara | maybe this will help (probably not too much though since its german |
| 17:30.23 | Obatztrara | no |
| 17:30.24 | Obatztrara | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.41 | Obatztrara | Ausgewählt is picked |
| 17:31.44 | JManV | is that the save? |
| 17:31.52 | Obatztrara | no, thats the loading process |
| 17:32.03 | Obatztrara | it loops through the number of buildings+ |
| 17:32.24 | Obatztrara | and restores building1 at position1 etc |
| 17:32.36 | JManV | Punktwert laden? |
| 17:32.48 | Obatztrara | load as point value |
| 17:32.56 | Obatztrara | wiederherstellen means resote |
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| 17:33.05 | Obatztrara | restore* |
| 17:33.25 | JManV | Puktwert is a variable? |
| 17:33.43 | JManV | i'm looking for the position |
| 17:33.48 | JManV | i want to make sure it's set right |
| 17:33.59 | Obatztrara | its no variable |
| 17:34.10 | Obatztrara | Its just the load point value function |
| 17:34.23 | JManV | ok |
| 17:34.24 | Obatztrara | basically |
| 17:34.28 | Helral | meows |
| 17:34.34 | Obatztrara | its one loading function calling anothr one |
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| 17:34.40 | JManV | i c |
| 17:34.41 | Obatztrara | yo helral |
| 17:34.46 | JManV | try something for me? |
| 17:34.49 | Obatztrara | sure |
| 17:34.55 | BDmon | pets Helral |
| 17:34.58 | JManV | load the point into a variable on a seperate line first |
| 17:35.06 | Obatztrara | ok |
| 17:35.07 | JManV | the load the unit using the point variable |
| 17:36.14 | JManV | how are you displaying the debug information? |
| 17:36.16 | JManV | after the load? |
| 17:37.51 | Obatztrara | ok, like this? |
| 17:37.51 | Obatztrara | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.57 | Obatztrara | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.16 | JManV | yes |
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| 17:38.31 | JManV | (i think ;) |
| 17:38.36 | Obatztrara | hehe |
| 17:38.40 | JManV | my german's real rusty |
| 17:38.43 | Obatztrara | it must be tough for you |
| 17:38.55 | JManV | and doesn't include computer terms |
| 17:39.02 | Obatztrara | :D |
| 17:39.11 | Obatztrara | I appreciat the effort |
| 17:39.17 | JManV | no problems |
| 17:39.31 | JManV | code is it's own foreign language ;) |
| 17:39.35 | Obatztrara | I would actually change my language files when I could..but blizzard wont let me dl the englsih vers for some reason |
| 17:39.40 | Obatztrara | yea true |
| 17:39.42 | Obatztrara | :) |
| 17:39.57 | Dekar | maybe you should come to our german mapping channel on quakenet :P |
| 17:40.14 | Obatztrara | oh |
| 17:40.17 | Obatztrara | link? ;) |
| 17:40.27 | Dekar | #starcraft-mapping |
| 17:40.31 | Dekar | on quakenet |
| 17:40.33 | Dekar | >_> |
| 17:40.43 | Dekar | do you use a webclient? |
| 17:41.01 | Obatztrara | yea ._. |
| 17:41.04 | Dekar | http://webchat.quakenet.org/ |
| 17:41.23 | Dekar | but we will tell you to use the english editor anyway |
| 17:41.24 | Dekar | xD |
| 17:41.28 | Dekar | awwz |
| 17:41.32 | JManV | heh |
| 17:41.35 | Dekar | i didnt allow you to leave! |
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| 17:41.52 | Obatztrara | woops. |
| 17:42.04 | JManV | did you do it in the same window? |
| 17:42.27 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:43.41 | JManV | any luck with that oba? |
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| 17:43.50 | JManV | seperating the lines? |
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| 17:44.38 | XenoX101 | halo |
| 17:44.45 | Dekar | hi |
| 17:45.08 | XenoX101 | have you made any maps/worked on any Dekar? |
| 17:45.16 | Dekar | i just made one today |
| 17:45.31 | XenoX101 | oh nice |
| 17:45.35 | XenoX101 | can I see? |
| 17:45.40 | Dekar | are you on EU? |
| 17:45.46 | XenoX101 | nope :( |
| 17:45.53 | XenoX101 | SEA |
| 17:46.02 | Helral | meows |
| 17:46.10 | JManV | what is SEA? |
| 17:46.15 | XenoX101 | south east asia |
| 17:46.24 | JManV | ok, that's what i thought |
| 17:46.26 | Dekar | i wil stream it |
| 17:46.32 | Dekar | its not released yet |
| 17:46.34 | Dekar | anyway |
| 17:46.37 | XenoX101 | ah k |
| 17:46.37 | Dekar | just some private testing |
| 17:46.42 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 17:46.52 | Obatztrara | afk for a sec srry |
| 17:47.24 | Dekar | http://www.xfire.com/live_video/dekar666/ |
| 17:48.15 | XenoX101 | cool didnt know you could do that |
| 17:48.57 | Dekar | only with floodlights |
| 17:49.28 | Dekar | i didnt fix all unit types yet |
| 17:49.38 | Dekar | so some have a rather strange correct answer |
| 17:49.50 | XenoX101 | I see |
| 17:50.17 | XenoX101 | I like the concept |
| 17:50.27 | XenoX101 | its like the old school chat quiz games |
| 17:50.29 | XenoX101 | in brood war |
| 17:50.39 | Helral | meows |
| 17:50.46 | Dekar | i just wanted to create something quick |
| 17:50.50 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 17:51.02 | XenoX101 | I just closed it so you can stop streaming it if you want |
| 17:51.07 | XenoX101 | its cool though |
| 17:51.17 | Dekar | :D |
| 17:51.37 | Dekar | well i dont want to create the 9001th copy of something |
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| 17:52.38 | Obatztrara | oook back...I just tried the version with the separate point loading but its the same resukt |
| 17:52.40 | Obatztrara | result* |
| 17:52.43 | XenoX101 | yeah thats it |
| 17:52.47 | Obatztrara | only half of the buildings :/ |
| 17:52.55 | Helral | hmmm? what's the problem? |
| 17:52.57 | XenoX101 | thats why my map is kinda different too |
| 17:53.14 | Obatztrara | do you mean me Helral? |
| 17:53.18 | Helral | yup |
| 17:53.24 | Obatztrara | oook here it goes |
| 17:53.55 | Obatztrara | I have a action definition which loads the Stash for a player LoadStashForPlayer(LoadingPlayer) |
| 17:54.23 | Obatztrara | If I call it in the loading trigger it will load exactly HALF of the buildings |
| 17:54.36 | Obatztrara | if I call it manually viy say a player presses key event it load ALL |
| 17:54.41 | Dekar | just hand me the map and i will take a look :D |
| 17:54.42 | Obatztrara | loads* |
| 17:55.12 | Obatztrara | hmm no sirry :P |
| 17:55.14 | Obatztrara | sorry* |
| 17:55.39 | Dekar | ooor |
| 17:55.44 | Dekar | open the script view |
| 17:55.51 | Dekar | ctrl F11 |
| 17:56.04 | Dekar | and copy the load thing to pastebin or something |
| 17:56.10 | Dekar | how about that? |
| 17:56.16 | Helral | hmmm |
| 17:56.18 | Dekar | it should be english |
| 17:56.18 | Obatztrara | ok, I havent tried that yet |
| 17:57.15 | Obatztrara | good thing im studying computer science..this all looks familiar |
| 17:57.39 | Dekar | ^^ |
| 17:59.18 | Obatztrara | ha |
| 17:59.41 | Obatztrara | i didnt know for loops where actually interpreted as while loops... |
| 18:00.16 | JManV | yo |
| 18:00.25 | JManV | so seperating the lines didn't help? |
| 18:00.32 | Obatztrara | no, the exact same result |
| 18:00.46 | JManV | how are you displaying your debug results? |
| 18:00.54 | JManV | where are you getting the data? |
| 18:01.37 | Obatztrara | well before loading the building I basically just have the game print the counter, the unit and the point.. |
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| 18:02.21 | JManV | how do you get the unit and point if you haven't loaded it yet? |
| 18:02.36 | Obatztrara | I load them :< |
| 18:02.48 | JManV | so you load them twice? |
| 18:03.09 | Obatztrara | well I have removed those lines because they didnt help me, so right now im not |
| 18:03.19 | Obatztrara | i want to point this out again |
| 18:03.30 | Obatztrara | if I call the action def manually later ir WORKS |
| 18:03.37 | Obatztrara | so really the error must lay elsewhere |
| 18:03.38 | JManV | ok, i was looking for consistancy between the debug message and the real loading |
| 18:03.56 | JManV | sometimes debug messages can be deceptive if they're not consistant with what's actually happening |
| 18:04.03 | Obatztrara | true |
| 18:04.18 | JManV | that point variable you just created - display it |
| 18:04.29 | JManV | and the unit if you can get that too |
| 18:04.37 | JManV | right after it's loaded |
| 18:04.50 | JManV | and the counter for good measure |
| 18:06.29 | Obatztrara | ok, one moment... |
| 18:06.48 | JManV | and then see if there's any difference in those values between the two ways you've tried running the action definition |
| 18:06.51 | Obatztrara | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.56 | Obatztrara | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.01 | Obatztrara | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.07 | Obatztrara | dekar? |
| 18:07.09 | Obatztrara | :P |
| 18:07.50 | Helral | btw Obatztrara: hit ctrl+d before copy/pasting. |
| 18:07.58 | JManV | how are you getting the unit? |
| 18:08.03 | Helral | more readable for others ;p |
| 18:08.06 | Obatztrara | last restored unit |
| 18:08.10 | JManV | ok |
| 18:08.11 | Obatztrara | ok thanks helral :) |
| 18:08.14 | Helral | since it will be in raw-data then. |
| 18:08.20 | Dekar | what is control d for? |
| 18:08.23 | Dekar | aha |
| 18:08.24 | Dekar | ! |
| 18:08.27 | Helral | :) |
| 18:09.20 | Dekar | hmm |
| 18:11.47 | JManV | oba: technically, at the system level, *all* loops are treated as "if <criteria> then goto" |
| 18:12.02 | Obatztrara | yea true |
| 18:12.35 | Obatztrara | guys I just tried something else |
| 18:13.06 | Obatztrara | I had the loop count down (before it counted up) and then the function always loads the exact other half of the buildings |
| 18:13.17 | Obatztrara | x_x |
| 18:13.31 | JManV | interesting |
| 18:13.33 | Helral | just wondering Obatztrara... |
| 18:13.39 | Helral | how does your loop look. |
| 18:13.56 | Obatztrara | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.11 | Helral | do you adjust the stashBuildingCounter, at any point in the loop? |
| 18:14.15 | Obatztrara | no |
| 18:14.19 | Obatztrara | I use picked integer |
| 18:14.24 | JManV | it loading the latter half tho |
| 18:14.31 | Obatztrara | yes |
| 18:14.37 | JManV | and the literal 1 definitely isn't going to change |
| 18:14.46 | Obatztrara | nope |
| 18:14.49 | Obatztrara | 100% |
| 18:15.11 | JManV | fyi: as a general rule i'd use "for each" over "pick each" |
| 18:15.17 | JManV | shouldn't affect your problem tho |
| 18:15.25 | Obatztrara | hmm ok |
| 18:15.46 | JManV | it's a more robust constuct |
| 18:16.12 | Helral | do you have another pick each loop inside the first one? |
| 18:16.17 | JManV | and you can give an interger variable a more meaningful name than "picked integer" |
| 18:16.32 | JManV | he'd get a nested iteration if he did. he said he's getting no errors |
| 18:16.41 | Obatztrara | no helral ...come on :P |
| 18:16.43 | Helral | it doesn't throw an error. |
| 18:16.45 | Helral | ;p |
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| 18:17.00 | Obatztrara | guys it again |
| 18:17.03 | Obatztrara | it works |
| 18:17.07 | Obatztrara | but only manually called |
| 18:17.30 | JManV | that just means that the conditions around the function have changes |
| 18:17.45 | JManV | are you using the right variables in your loop? |
| 18:18.16 | Obatztrara | I must be ... else it would work like this: |
| 18:18.21 | JManV | if there's some variable that happens to accidently be set to the right thing, it can cause erradic behavior like that |
| 18:18.24 | Obatztrara | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.28 | Obatztrara | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.32 | Obatztrara | This works just fine |
| 18:18.35 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAVrcvnNYKs |
| 18:18.50 | Obatztrara | hmm |
| 18:19.26 | Obatztrara | I will try something..brb |
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| 18:37.00 | JManV | oba? |
| 18:37.04 | Obatztrara | yea? |
| 18:37.08 | Obatztrara | well |
| 18:37.27 | Obatztrara | I think I have it working for me now. but that doesnt mean its fixed |
| 18:37.34 | Obatztrara | what i do is this |
| 18:38.08 | Obatztrara | i run through the number of buildings twice: the first time up, zhe second time down. I only restore a building when the position is empty |
| 18:38.17 | Obatztrara | it works, but its fugly |
| 18:38.24 | Obatztrara | and i still dont know where the bug is |
| 18:39.01 | JManV | hmmm |
| 18:39.09 | Obatztrara | ok just ran it..it does work in fact |
| 18:39.28 | Obatztrara | this is nagging at me :( |
| 18:39.55 | Helral | is this about the same load as you used in the previous versions? |
| 18:40.20 | Obatztrara | well |
| 18:40.40 | Obatztrara | I had a change when i switched from one ugly trigger to a few nice sction definitions... |
| 18:40.55 | Obatztrara | I guess I could take a look at the backups... |
| 18:41.27 | Helral | was just wondering |
| 18:41.56 | Obatztrara | could we run a test helral? I would like to see whether this system works in multiplayer too.... |
| 18:46.19 | JManV | hmmm... i need to give a name to four different levels of psi blades |
| 18:46.29 | JManV | psi blades is level 1 |
| 18:46.40 | JManV | i have "focused psi blades" as level 2 |
| 18:46.51 | JManV | dunno where to go from there |
| 18:47.03 | Obatztrara | sharpened? :s Dunno... |
| 18:47.23 | JManV | you can't really sharpen energy... |
| 18:47.27 | Obatztrara | >_> |
| 18:47.28 | Obatztrara | <_< |
| 18:47.47 | Helral | JManV: well actually you can. |
| 18:47.51 | C-H | focused is kinda the sharpened version though |
| 18:48.00 | C-H | for energy types... |
| 18:48.02 | Helral | true ;p |
| 18:48.06 | JManV | yeah |
| 18:49.56 | C-H | polarized... |
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| 18:51.31 | C-H | empowered psi blades |
| 18:51.47 | Obatztrara | energetic..? |
| 18:54.53 | Dekar | dense psiblades |
| 18:55.04 | C-H | super handy dandy... O.o |
| 18:55.06 | Dekar | enlarged |
| 18:55.08 | Dekar | xD |
| 18:56.32 | C-H | enhanced |
| 18:56.43 | Dekar | greenfire psyblades |
| 18:58.39 | C-H | psionic shockblades |
| 18:59.07 | C-H | i'll be thinking about this all day :\ |
| 19:00.55 | Dekar | miniaturized |
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| 19:10.32 | A1win | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/art-assets/15435-request-queen-of-blades-run-animation/ |
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| 19:42.17 | Obatztrara | anyone in the mood to help test a map? :) |
| 19:51.06 | Helral | hey Skizot |
| 19:51.21 | Skizot | yo |
| 19:51.54 | Helral | did ya have time to work on that door or too busy with stuff for your own map? |
| 19:52.31 | Skizot | working on my own game actually |
| 19:52.39 | Helral | no worries ;p |
| 19:52.58 | Helral | I see you're not on TS ;p |
| 19:53.59 | Skizot | shit internets |
| 19:54.03 | Helral | lol |
| 19:59.23 | xttocs | slaps Skizot |
| 20:00.07 | Helral | slaps xttocs around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:00.18 | Helral | meows |
| 20:00.34 | xttocs | I don't approve |
| 20:00.48 | Helral | approve of what? |
| 20:01.22 | xttocs | The meowing |
| 20:01.35 | Helral | meows |
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| 20:03.39 | Demonette | Hi |
| 20:03.56 | Helral | meows |
| 20:12.56 | C-H | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1339392/pizza%20terrain.jpg |
| 20:13.00 | C-H | got kinda bored |
| 20:16.35 | Obatztrara | guuuys I need testers! :] |
| 20:16.53 | Obatztrara | no need to be bored :P |
| 20:19.38 | Dekar | ok |
| 20:19.39 | Dekar | ! |
| 20:19.44 | Dekar | i just had |
| 20:19.45 | Dekar | the first |
| 20:19.49 | Dekar | positive surprise |
| 20:19.53 | Dekar | caused by the galaxy editor |
| 20:19.54 | Dekar | ever |
| 20:20.10 | Dekar | so i feel good enough to test your map once :p |
| 20:20.41 | Dekar | splash damage inside a unit with large radius does not need to touch the center! |
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| 20:21.30 | Dekar | Obatztrara |
| 20:21.51 | Obatztrara | awsome :D |
| 20:21.54 | Dekar | you didnt join us on quakenet yet :p |
| 20:22.08 | Obatztrara | send me the link again? i failed the first time >_> |
| 20:22.20 | Dekar | http://webchat.quakenet.org/ |
| 20:22.32 | Dekar | #starcraft-mapping |
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| 20:31.06 | wOlfLinG | So... Hi! |
| 20:31.14 | wOlfLinG | got a new PC yesterday :D |
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| 20:32.57 | AlexEcho | Hello |
| 20:41.15 | A1win | any ideas how to get kerrigan's wings not jump in front of the camera when I strafe with W+A or W+D <.< |
| 20:42.09 | A1win | mmh maybe put the camera a bit lower... |
| 20:44.04 | A1win | then the camera focus is on her ass <.< |
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| 20:50.16 | A1win | hmm.. with 90 fov I can zoom the camera very close |
| 20:52.28 | AlexEcho | I got a question where cani buy a starcraft editor guide or book |
| 20:53.06 | A1win | don't think there is one ;p at least not yet |
| 20:53.25 | A1win | read user-made tutorials on the web |
| 20:53.25 | AlexEcho | no one has got to making one yet? |
| 20:53.36 | AlexEcho | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.50 | AlexEcho | the internet is a lot of little pieces |
| 20:54.12 | AlexEcho | plus no one in there right mind wil share the "good" stuff free |
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| 20:54.50 | JManV | taco |
| 20:55.41 | AlexEcho | Alwin got any ideea if anyone is doing a $ corse? |
| 20:58.55 | Ashamed | boom |
| 20:59.03 | Ashamed | my computer is ordered |
| 20:59.07 | Ashamed | and shipping out tomorrow |
| 20:59.18 | AlexEcho | what specs? |
| 21:01.53 | nicoli_s | AlexEcho:we ahre all the good stuff for free |
| 21:02.00 | nicoli_s | thats why we have so many tutorials |
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| 21:04.04 | AlexEcho | the thing is |
| 21:04.31 | AlexEcho | im one you are right but i was curios if there was a thing in one place |
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| 21:19.16 | Vail|College | hey folks |
| 21:20.28 | currydevil | Hey Vail |
| 21:21.29 | Vail|College | i am in class and had a great idea that i just cant test yet. |
| 21:23.05 | currydevil | what's that? |
| 21:24.08 | currydevil | Btw Zeratul's problem is that he's cloaked. Not sure why but that's it. I tested all the other cloaked units and they had the same problem. When I turned off their cloak, they worked. |
| 21:24.13 | currydevil | cloaked a ghost, he didn't work |
| 21:24.30 | Vail|College | i see i thought so |
| 21:24.52 | currydevil | Problem now is my own, i tried duplicating your ability.. I can't seem to get it to apply the behavior |
| 21:25.04 | Vail|College | and my idea is customizable attributes through a learn ability |
| 21:25.06 | currydevil | even added a search area in the mix, it won't apply. |
| 21:25.23 | Vail|College | is the apply behaivoir ability set to target catser? |
| 21:25.30 | currydevil | probably |
| 21:25.35 | currydevil | maybe |
| 21:25.47 | nevjmac | lol |
| 21:25.51 | nevjmac | morning lads |
| 21:25.57 | Vail|College | morning |
| 21:26.03 | currydevil | Heya nev |
| 21:26.19 | nevjmac | so after i left yesterday |
| 21:26.27 | nevjmac | I spent the next 6 hours shovelling dirt |
| 21:26.38 | nevjmac | because the driver dumped it on the nextdoor neighbours lawn |
| 21:26.48 | nevjmac | and I now have blisters all down my hands >.< |
| 21:26.48 | Vail|College | ouch |
| 21:26.54 | Vail|College | double ouch |
| 21:27.01 | nevjmac | yea typing is hard |
| 21:27.02 | nevjmac | :D |
| 21:28.15 | grim001 | .... |
| 21:28.21 | Ashamed | alexecho specs are not the greatest -.- but it will do 1gb 256-bit gpu/ 3.0 phenom II x4 4gb 1333 ddr 500gb 7200 rpg hard drive ( Bought that about 2 years ago ) |
| 21:29.16 | Ashamed | i aready had the case/hd/mobo/powersupply.. so it only cost like 280 all together |
| 21:30.09 | Vail|College | so currydevil you just dupicated the ability? did you change any of the ranges? |
| 21:30.40 | currydevil | no, I left them about 2/2 |
| 21:30.46 | currydevil | i did change it later |
| 21:30.49 | currydevil | the range is 5 now |
| 21:31.00 | currydevil | I thought that was why my buff wasn't being applied |
| 21:31.12 | currydevil | when I cast the ability, the button lights up, but nothing else happens |
| 21:33.42 | Vail|College | because its on the tower the auto caste has to be set to the range you want as well |
| 21:34.17 | currydevil | i did, i set the auto cast range to 2, and set the arc to 360 |
| 21:34.21 | currydevil | but i put it on a diff building |
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| 21:36.57 | currydevil | i stopped trying to figure it out when i found out the problem lol.. |
| 21:37.01 | Vail|College | what building? |
| 21:37.06 | currydevil | but it would be nice to have it actually apply a buff |
| 21:37.14 | currydevil | just used the terran abandoned structure |
| 21:37.29 | currydevil | is there something already on the tower that i need? |
| 21:37.49 | Vail|College | the ability requires the interatc ability to designate the target |
| 21:38.23 | currydevil | oh the interact designates the target eh |
| 21:38.27 | currydevil | Let me check that |
| 21:38.31 | Vail|College | i think so |
| 21:38.36 | currydevil | I put it on, but wasn't thinking about it |
| 21:41.00 | A1win | is there a simple way to add a visual fire effect (that does nothing) on a unit? not like the fire death but some flame thingy |
| 21:41.07 | A1win | I mean not burn the entire unit ;p |
| 21:42.52 | currydevil | yes |
| 21:43.29 | currydevil | I did it for my burn debuff |
| 21:43.47 | currydevil | make a new actor, model type continuous |
| 21:43.54 | currydevil | set the model to fire medium |
| 21:44.19 | currydevil | does your unit have a buff or something during the time you want the fire to show? |
| 21:44.31 | currydevil | or do you want it all the time? |
| 21:45.31 | currydevil | I declared a target as much as I could on the interact, but it didn't make a difference |
| 21:45.33 | A1win | buff I think |
| 21:45.46 | currydevil | so on the new model you make |
| 21:45.49 | currydevil | er new actor |
| 21:45.54 | currydevil | you put the event |
| 21:46.06 | currydevil | behavior.(your behavior).on |
| 21:46.08 | currydevil | create |
| 21:46.30 | currydevil | another event: behavior.(your behavior).off |
| 21:46.32 | currydevil | destroy |
| 21:46.46 | currydevil | and you can use a site op to attach it overhead, or some other place on the unit |
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| 21:49.12 | A1win | if I create an effect from a unit using a trigger, does it check its validators? |
| 21:49.31 | currydevil | i wouldn't think so |
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| 21:50.00 | doite | And the map is now released |
| 21:50.04 | doite | Finally |
| 21:50.11 | doite | Even some feedback from ppl =) |
| 21:50.34 | currydevil | cool |
| 21:50.47 | doite | have u seen the video? |
| 21:50.49 | doite | =) |
| 21:51.06 | currydevil | no |
| 21:51.20 | doite | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBsjAIDeMHI |
| 21:52.02 | doite | Haha its so fuckin lame |
| 21:52.08 | A1win | doite, I have a new video too ;I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAVrcvnNYKs |
| 21:54.05 | A1win | the camera is too close in that though |
| 21:54.28 | doite | haha i love how she adds sprint and haste when killing =) |
| 21:54.42 | A1win | yeh |
| 21:54.48 | A1win | it's fun to play 8) |
| 21:55.04 | doite | OH! |
| 21:55.09 | doite | We should do GTA! |
| 21:55.13 | doite | I should do gta! |
| 21:55.17 | Dryeyece | nice Doite |
| 21:55.23 | A1win | when she gets 100% "rage", I'm gonna make her burn the targets instead of just kill normally |
| 21:55.34 | currydevil | bah video stops at 1:08 |
| 21:55.37 | currydevil | A1 |
| 21:55.42 | A1win | youtube is laggy |
| 21:55.47 | A1win | try skipping a few seconds or so |
| 21:55.49 | currydevil | ah |
| 21:56.00 | currydevil | it goes back to like 1, then plays to 1:08 again |
| 21:56.17 | currydevil | well 1:01 |
| 21:56.23 | A1win | mh |
| 21:56.29 | doite | God i do want to do GTA |
| 21:56.34 | doite | But it would take me to long time |
| 21:56.41 | Dryeyece | whats GTA? |
| 21:56.48 | doite | Kidding? |
| 21:56.50 | nicoli_s | grand theft auto |
| 21:56.52 | currydevil | lol |
| 21:56.56 | doite | Ill show |
| 21:57.06 | Dryeyece | uggh I hated that game |
| 21:57.08 | A1win | hmm |
| 21:57.21 | A1win | I duplicated a damage effect and it's giving an error when I try to create it from trigger |
| 21:57.21 | wOlfLinG | So, ideas. What should i make? Thinking of making a card game a bit like the Pokemon cards/ Magic: The Gathering or an RPG. |
| 21:57.27 | Dryeyece | my little brother used to play the crap out of it |
| 21:58.56 | doite | Well i want to do it of the old ones |
| 21:58.58 | A1win | oh nevermind |
| 21:59.02 | doite | Not the new in third person |
| 21:59.06 | A1win | it wasn't related to the effect directly |
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| 21:59.33 | doite | Thease ones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8tvADi-uA8 |
| 21:59.50 | doite | Now thats some HEAVY grafics! |
| 21:59.53 | doite | phics* |
| 22:01.04 | doite | The fun thing is that the game really was in that speed |
| 22:01.07 | doite | Its not lagging =) |
| 22:01.39 | A1win | buah death types are awesome |
| 22:02.23 | doite | A1win help me to do GTA instead! |
| 22:02.30 | A1win | pff :P |
| 22:02.32 | A1win | this is more fun |
| 22:04.42 | wOlfLinG | Omg, i could never run that GTA game on my PC D: |
| 22:04.49 | wOlfLinG | My GPU is just too bad! |
| 22:05.07 | doite | =) |
| 22:06.07 | doite | 16K of RAM, a floppy disk, and a keyboard :) However, you'll probably want to install some add-ons that come in higher DOS versions, but all DOS's need to be able to run in uner 640K of RAM, and all will boot off a floppy as well. For example, I was able to run PC DOS 2000 on a 1981 model by putting the DOS onto a floppy. It runs fine. |
| 22:06.13 | doite | Thats whats needed for GTA dos |
| 22:06.23 | doite | Sure you couldnt play it even today? |
| 22:06.24 | doite | =) |
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| 22:09.18 | wOlfLinG | I only have 8GB of RAM and an ATI 6870! That stuff is just too out of my price range :( |
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| 22:12.22 | JManV | man those captchas suck |
| 22:12.30 | JManV | one of mine had an accent |
| 22:14.22 | Vail|College | i am gone i will come back when i get to the house. |
| 22:15.38 | wOlfLinG | So idea! Now! |
| 22:15.45 | wOlfLinG | I need to make an epic map! |
| 22:15.53 | wOlfLinG | But one that is mostly trigger related :/ |
| 22:16.26 | JManV | triggers are awesome |
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| 22:17.08 | doite | GTA! |
| 22:17.19 | doite | wOlfLinG |
| 22:17.34 | wOlfLinG | Good idea, but i doubt it would be able to be put up >< |
| 22:17.43 | A1win | what's the point in recreating other games in SC2? :P they'll just turn out worse than the real game |
| 22:17.51 | doite | to violent |
| 22:17.52 | doite | ? |
| 22:17.52 | wOlfLinG | The whole car stealing and killing people may make blizzard a bit annoyed >< |
| 22:18.06 | doite | Didnt think of that |
| 22:18.31 | nevjmac | steal tanks from the dominion! |
| 22:18.37 | nevjmac | and run the dominion over |
| 22:18.38 | nevjmac | :P |
| 22:18.46 | doite | =) |
| 22:18.58 | nevjmac | nobody likes them anyway haha |
| 22:19.02 | doite | GT(f)Z |
| 22:19.09 | doite | Grand Theft from Zerg |
| 22:19.47 | doite | I have really no ideas for the moment what to make.. hmm |
| 22:20.01 | doite | I saw theres like 3 resident evil maps out before mine |
| 22:20.20 | doite | And one was really well created.. Not third person mode, but nice camera like in resident evilk |
| 22:20.25 | doite | first ones |
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| 22:25.25 | A1win | mmh the fire lags behind too much... |
| 22:26.26 | A1win | just want something attached to kerrigan that tells the player when she's at full rage :x |
| 22:27.05 | A1win | then she's "hot" and burns everything ;I |
| 22:39.45 | nevjmac | how would I go about adding a behaviour to a morph ability. I want my morph to have a timed duration |
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| 22:46.44 | currydevil | hmmm |
| 22:47.51 | currydevil | PM did a multi phase spell where the caster morphed into a zealot at one point for a duratio |
| 22:47.54 | currydevil | duration |
| 22:48.02 | currydevil | you might be able to get something from that |
| 22:48.03 | nevjmac | I got it |
| 22:48.14 | currydevil | oh ok |
| 22:48.16 | nevjmac | just my unit blows up |
| 22:48.18 | nevjmac | lol |
| 22:48.19 | currydevil | how's it work? |
| 22:48.32 | nevjmac | i copied the mule timed life |
| 22:48.42 | currydevil | is it a behavior? |
| 22:48.45 | nevjmac | yea |
| 22:48.51 | nevjmac | created an apply behaviour effect |
| 22:48.51 | currydevil | andi t forces it to morph back? |
| 22:48.55 | nevjmac | not yet |
| 22:48.57 | currydevil | ah ok |
| 22:48.58 | nevjmac | I need to do that |
| 22:49.04 | nevjmac | still figuring out ho |
| 22:49.13 | currydevil | well go check out his multi phase spell |
| 22:49.15 | currydevil | it does that |
| 22:49.19 | nevjmac | i was just trying to get th behaviour added |
| 22:49.19 | currydevil | morphs the caster |
| 22:49.25 | currydevil | and then morphs back after the duration |
| 22:49.56 | currydevil | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/8990-data-multi-phase-spells-advanced-difficulty/ |
| 22:50.16 | nevjmac | yea at the end of the life |
| 22:50.20 | nevjmac | it has an expiration effect |
| 22:50.24 | nevjmac | that makes an order |
| 22:50.27 | nevjmac | ordering it back |
| 22:50.31 | nevjmac | :) |
| 22:51.05 | nevjmac | which makes me think I need another ability :/ |
| 22:51.43 | nevjmac | can you make an ability hidden on the command card but still executable |
| 22:51.55 | nevjmac | cause I don't want them to be able to do it themselves |
| 22:52.42 | currydevil | yes, just give the ability to the unit |
| 22:52.47 | currydevil | don't put a button on the CC |
| 22:52.49 | currydevil | try that |
| 22:52.58 | nevjmac | ok let me put it all together |
| 22:53.03 | currydevil | you don't put interact abilities on cc's to make shops work |
| 22:53.21 | nevjmac | havn't got to shops yet |
| 22:57.26 | nevjmac | lol need to fix actors |
| 22:57.31 | nevjmac | I have a moving seiged tank atm |
| 22:57.33 | nevjmac | lol |
| 22:59.12 | currydevil | lol |
| 23:01.43 | nevjmac | how to play morph backwards :/ |
| 23:02.47 | currydevil | lol |
| 23:02.55 | Skizot | play the un morph? |
| 23:02.57 | Skizot | lol |
| 23:03.10 | nevjmac | yea which is? actors only have morph selection? |
| 23:03.49 | Skizot | if the model has a morph, it has an unmorph |
| 23:04.36 | nevjmac | in case of the seige tank it doesn't |
| 23:04.57 | currydevil | the unmorph would be the sieged tank morphing back to the seige tank? |
| 23:05.10 | Skizot | lol |
| 23:05.19 | Skizot | seigetanks have an unmorph |
| 23:05.27 | Skizot | or else they would STAY seiged. |
| 23:05.47 | nevjmac | I understand that |
| 23:05.51 | nevjmac | but there is no model for it |
| 23:06.07 | nevjmac | and the original seige tank does not actor event it in anyway |
| 23:06.39 | nevjmac | there is only a seige tank sieged morph |
| 23:06.42 | nevjmac | that is all... |
| 23:07.05 | Skizot | ..... |
| 23:09.34 | Skizot | there are TWO animation in that morph |
| 23:09.40 | Skizot | morph end and morph start |
| 23:09.57 | nevjmac | thats what I wanted to know ty |
| 23:10.08 | Skizot | morph start turns the tank into the turret |
| 23:10.17 | Skizot | morph end turns the turret into the tank. |
| 23:10.28 | doite | I tryed to help a guy on a forum, not this one, but i wrote something way over 10000 symbols and they when they said it was 2 much they DELETED it.. |
| 23:10.30 | doite | Fuckers.. |
| 23:13.09 | nevjmac | woot, ability complete ty guys :) a timed life morph |
| 23:36.30 | Vail|Home | hmm i need like six or nine attribute ideas |
| 23:36.46 | Vail|Home | well 2 to five more i have four already |
| 23:36.47 | nevjmac | attributes for what |
| 23:37.23 | Vail|Home | my heros for my mod i am going abit DoTA style but not exactly |
| 23:37.25 | Dekar | clearly they need a ninja attribute which shows how ninja they are |
| 23:37.39 | Vail|Home | ok i throw that into the idea bin |
| 23:37.45 | Dekar | cool |
| 23:37.49 | nevjmac | you know heroes can have a max of 4 |
| 23:37.54 | nevjmac | otherwise the game crashes |
| 23:38.04 | nevjmac | unless you plan on doing it all in triggers |
| 23:38.18 | Vail|Home | hmm i will have to test somethings but i have an idea |
| 23:38.28 | nevjmac | I wanted 6 but had to scrap that idea |
| 23:39.13 | Vail|Home | i plan on only having four active |
| 23:46.25 | Vail|Home | my idea is to give all six test attributes to a hero and have them inactive due to requirements then enable only the chosen four |
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| 23:49.56 | Vail|Home | any one recall what the max number of abilities a unit can have on it total? not in the command card just total |
| 23:50.25 | nevjmac | 32? |
| 23:50.41 | nevjmac | if I understand your question |
| 23:51.25 | Vail|Home | thanks |
| 23:51.42 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/tf2wip/Car.png |
| 23:51.44 | Skizot | :D |
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| 23:52.40 | JManV | yo |
| 23:53.14 | doite | Pju |
| 23:53.30 | doite | Just wrote 2 full pages for a guy with a tutorial how to make a damn counting system |
| 23:54.25 | doite | Next time i guess ill jsut write the answor as everyone else does, but i guess i know how it feels to be in his shoes since i was there just 2-3 weeks ago when i started |
| 23:58.41 | Vail|Home | cross your castle every body and lets hope this works |
