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| 00:12.43 | Vail | its time for fun i get to make the call down Bunker ability for my second hero |
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| 00:24.43 | JManV | i apparently have an explorer window taking up a gig and a hlf of memory |
| 00:24.54 | JManV | iexplorer that is |
| 00:25.04 | JManV | kill that |
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| 01:00.04 | Vail | hello folks i am returned and i need some help. |
| 01:01.02 | Vail | my problem is that my bunker spaws complete ... and would like it to spawn underconstruction |
| 01:03.58 | Stewox | Hi , i would like to have multiple weapons on the same unit , with separate turret working independently in a single unit , preferably the same weapon duplicated or trippled , |
| 01:04.22 | Stewox | i just need the key info and i'll handle the rest tnx |
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| 02:08.49 | Vail | anybody here? |
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| 02:28.14 | JManV | yo |
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| 02:32.18 | JManV | w00t |
| 02:32.30 | JManV | vail: i got the behavior/validator/requirement set up for one level |
| 02:32.38 | JManV | it' |
| 02:32.46 | JManV | it's actually 2 validators |
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| 02:37.37 | Vail | i see |
| 02:38.01 | Vail | thats progress |
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| 02:39.39 | JManV | kind of |
| 02:39.47 | JManV | i just realized i have different unit types |
| 02:39.55 | JManV | and i only want to show the weapons for that unit type |
| 02:40.01 | JManV | so i need even more validators |
| 02:40.10 | JManV | it's a mess |
| 02:40.21 | Vail | i see. |
| 02:40.42 | Vail | i will have a huge mess too when i am in the thick of my project |
| 02:42.30 | JManV | hmmm |
| 02:43.04 | Vail | i mean every ability for every hero will have its own requirements and validators |
| 02:43.27 | JManV | yeah, that's what sucks about the data editor |
| 02:43.30 | JManV | no scalability |
| 02:44.01 | JManV | i'd kill for a trigger solution right now, but i can't think of one that doesn't involve a periodic event |
| 02:44.29 | Vail | but the unparalled power in the data editor is amazing |
| 02:44.36 | JManV | no doubt |
| 02:46.06 | JManV | i seem to be missing something on this unit ability validator |
| 02:46.27 | Vail | ive been working with validators alot lately |
| 02:46.40 | JManV | i need to see if a unit has an ability |
| 02:46.51 | nevjmac | yea thanks vail :P |
| 02:46.55 | JManV | it seems to be returning the same thing no matter what |
| 02:47.08 | Vail | hmm |
| 02:48.03 | Vail | i havent used it before but what are you trying to do with it |
| 02:48.16 | Vail | and welcome nevjmac |
| 02:48.39 | JManV | check to see if the unit has a specific inventory ability - in short: can the unit equip the items i'm selling |
| 02:49.08 | JManV | i'm combining it with a level validator, and the level validator is working perfectly |
| 02:49.14 | Vail | ok are you trying to validate the caster or the target of the sell ability ? |
| 02:49.30 | JManV | well the hero in range validator |
| 02:49.37 | JManV | enumerates an area and finds the hero |
| 02:49.47 | JManV | in the search - area, i can apply another validator |
| 02:49.57 | JManV | saying, targeted unit has these properties |
| 02:50.09 | JManV | level 2+ |
| 02:50.12 | JManV | combined with |
| 02:50.19 | JManV | ability - zealot inventory |
| 02:50.50 | JManV | works with the level 2+ |
| 02:50.55 | JManV | even inside the combine |
| 02:51.13 | Vail | would you mind letting me see the way you have the unit ability validator set up? |
| 02:51.41 | JManV | i set ability link to the ability i'm looking for |
| 02:51.50 | JManV | i messed with validator - find |
| 02:52.02 | JManV | i left the unit + at target |
| 02:52.16 | JManV | that's what worked for the level validator |
| 02:52.36 | Vail | so you have find enabled |
| 02:52.45 | JManV | yes |
| 02:52.48 | Vail | ok |
| 02:52.50 | JManV | and i've tried it both ways |
| 02:53.11 | Vail | and you have ability class set to the corret type? |
| 02:54.07 | JManV | yes |
| 02:54.13 | JManV | i changed it |
| 02:54.24 | JManV | and its allowing the sale no matter what |
| 02:54.56 | Vail | strange |
| 02:55.07 | JManV | indeed |
| 02:55.32 | JManV | not the first time i've seen the editor not behave the way you'd expect, though |
| 02:56.25 | Vail | just off hand is your combine set to and? |
| 02:56.51 | JManV | hahaha |
| 02:57.35 | JManV | (that's a no) |
| 02:58.13 | Vail | sorry? |
| 02:58.15 | JManV | my hero has so many abilties and behaviors |
| 02:58.29 | JManV | it was set to "or" |
| 02:58.43 | Vail | ah and it should have been and> |
| 02:58.45 | Vail | ? |
| 02:59.03 | JManV | yes it should have |
| 02:59.12 | JManV | ... but apparently it doesn't make a different |
| 02:59.19 | Vail | hmm |
| 02:59.26 | JManV | let me try just the ability validator |
| 02:59.43 | Vail | wait were are you apply this validator? |
| 02:59.55 | JManV | at the unit |
| 03:00.00 | JManV | oh |
| 03:00.10 | JManV | a behavior on the shop |
| 03:00.22 | Vail | not on an ability? |
| 03:00.41 | JManV | the behavior controls the requirement |
| 03:00.49 | JManV | the requirement is on the ability |
| 03:01.32 | Vail | i just wanted to make sure because the smart validators field in abilities appears to contron on who the ability autocasts and nothing esle |
| 03:01.52 | JManV | ah |
| 03:03.08 | Vail | so the enumerate area validator has the combine validator that contains the level and unit ability validators... |
| 03:03.33 | JManV | yes |
| 03:03.44 | JManV | it's apparently the validator itself that's not working |
| 03:03.48 | Vail | the zealot can purchase from the ability from the shop as well? |
| 03:03.52 | JManV | even outside of the combine |
| 03:04.48 | JManV | i don't understand the question |
| 03:05.46 | Vail | can the unit with the target ability utilize the shop and purchase the item ment only for that inventory? |
| 03:06.06 | JManV | that's the plan |
| 03:06.13 | JManV | right now any unit can buy it |
| 03:06.27 | Vail | including the unit with the target inventory? |
| 03:06.32 | JManV | yes |
| 03:06.56 | Vail | ok so it definantly the unit ability validator.. |
| 03:07.23 | Vail | all i can recomend it try changing the target value starting with caster. |
| 03:07.53 | JManV | i think... |
| 03:08.39 | JManV | sweet |
| 03:08.46 | JManV | i have messed with the ability class |
| 03:08.52 | JManV | changing it back to default |
| 03:08.57 | JManV | seems to have fixed it |
| 03:08.58 | Vail | ah |
| 03:09.53 | JManV | awesome thanks |
| 03:11.07 | JManV | when i change his inventory ability, he can't buy it |
| 03:12.20 | JManV | i should have a dynammic shop working here soon |
| 03:13.27 | Vail | thats good my shop has stopped working entirely |
| 03:13.36 | JManV | suck |
| 03:15.02 | JManV | what were you trying to do? |
| 03:15.13 | Vail | ok its working again |
| 03:15.29 | Vail | it something in my tower capture ability |
| 03:15.33 | JManV | i'm thinking it |
| 03:15.52 | JManV | would be easier to do one validator per unit class, and a seperate one for level |
| 03:17.00 | JManV | i think it will come out to less validators |
| 03:17.10 | JManV | don't need all those extra combines |
| 03:19.25 | Vail | nod. |
| 03:20.46 | Vail | by the way how did you get owned shops working? |
| 03:21.13 | JManV | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/15068-advanced-building-interaction/ |
| 03:21.56 | JManV | there's a demo map |
| 03:21.56 | onetwo | im making a 6v3 custom map, should i make lobby preset (thus running the problem of youd need 9 players to get a game going), or just make everyone on one team in the lobby and then determine actual teams ingame in triggers |
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| 03:22.27 | onetwo | based on amount of players |
| 03:22.31 | onetwo | eg if only 4 players were in |
| 03:22.33 | onetwo | its be 3v1 |
| 03:22.40 | JManV | you may split up parties if you do it in triggers |
| 03:23.34 | onetwo | hmm |
| 03:23.44 | onetwo | but since people cant really move around lobbies |
| 03:23.50 | onetwo | my map would run the risk of being unplayable |
| 03:23.54 | onetwo | unless you waited for 9 full joiners |
| 03:24.05 | onetwo | otherwise thered be eg 4 people on one side |
| 03:24.06 | onetwo | and 0 on other |
| 03:24.17 | JManV | sounds like you've decided |
| 03:24.18 | nevjmac | split up the parties |
| 03:24.21 | nevjmac | imo :) |
| 03:24.24 | onetwo | hmm |
| 03:24.28 | onetwo | k |
| 03:24.31 | onetwo | more work |
| 03:24.32 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:24.44 | JManV | not that much |
| 03:24.50 | onetwo | wish we could just have war3's nice way |
| 03:24.52 | onetwo | people can move themselves |
| 03:25.17 | onetwo | but ill make do |
| 03:25.51 | LordAbyss | hey onetwo |
| 03:25.59 | onetwo | hi |
| 03:26.22 | JManV | we're all doing a lot of "making do" :/ |
| 03:26.28 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:26.53 | LordAbyss | want to write my english paper for me? |
| 03:26.56 | Vail | i think i will stick to neutral shops for now i just wish the the range didnt revert to 1 for abilities the shop grants |
| 03:26.56 | nevjmac | do we have a choice? :P |
| 03:27.21 | JManV | i needed more than neutral shops |
| 03:27.24 | Vail | or rather 0 range. |
| 03:29.14 | Vail | if its not prying may i ask why? |
| 03:30.02 | JManV | it's just the way the game plays out |
| 03:30.11 | JManV | the compute rbuildings are "cities" |
| 03:30.12 | Vail | ah |
| 03:30.16 | JManV | and you can build from them |
| 03:30.26 | JManV | but they are allies of yours, and they can be destroyed |
| 03:31.18 | JManV | the point of the game is to destroy the central computer building for each race |
| 03:31.27 | JManV | which is protected by a boss |
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| 03:32.26 | JManV | and i definitely didn't want to sell to other teams |
| 03:33.25 | Vail | ah |
| 03:33.51 | JManV | then, once i realized i could get individual queues, i was in love |
| 03:34.19 | Vail | individual queues? |
| 03:34.33 | JManV | each player on a team has his own queue for that building |
| 03:34.50 | JManV | because they're actually independant buildings |
| 03:35.04 | JManV | and you can actually see the queue |
| 03:35.09 | JManV | because it's your building |
| 03:35.58 | Vail | ah |
| 03:36.15 | JManV | that said, i'm probably going to shorten the queue times dramatically |
| 03:36.22 | Vail | hm |
| 03:36.22 | JManV | but having the option is what's awesome |
| 03:36.52 | JManV | and even if it's 5 seconds, it's nice to be able to see it |
| 03:37.01 | Vail | yeah. |
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| 03:37.58 | JManV | it's a little complicated tho ;) |
| 03:38.12 | JManV | but i've had it working really well for quite a while now |
| 03:39.06 | JManV | (until i wanted to add item requirements ;) |
| 03:39.20 | JManV | item requirements in general has been a pain |
| 03:44.56 | JManV | booyah |
| 03:45.20 | Vail | made some progress? |
| 03:45.51 | JManV | yeah i got the seperate validators |
| 03:45.58 | JManV | and two different levels working |
| 03:46.08 | JManV | it doesn't show the items if they're not available |
| 03:46.21 | JManV | so i shouldn't have any trouble stacking the command card |
| 03:55.00 | JManV | just setting everything up takes forever |
| 03:58.47 | Vail | if any one on the US servers has the time i would like to test a brief and raw scenario |
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| 04:04.58 | onetwo | test |
| 04:04.58 | onetwo | nice |
| 04:05.06 | onetwo | i disconnected my router and cable modem |
| 04:05.10 | onetwo | and reconnected |
| 04:05.13 | onetwo | and didnt lose connection to here |
| 04:05.18 | onetwo | im a big kid now |
| 04:05.34 | Vail | nice |
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| 04:08.22 | Vail | drat if i want higher level heros to give higher exp i am going to have to use a buff that casts a modify unit effect on to the killing unit or use some sort of triggers |
| 04:10.08 | onetwo | active players dont inlcude neutral/hostile right? |
| 04:10.14 | onetwo | yeah triggers |
| 04:10.41 | nevjmac | I'm not sure about neutral or hostile |
| 04:10.46 | nevjmac | test it |
| 04:10.52 | nevjmac | count them and display a number with differents amounts |
| 04:11.12 | onetwo | i was hoping to avoid |
| 04:11.13 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:11.20 | Vail | i though active players only included actuall human controled sides.. |
| 04:11.27 | nevjmac | it counts computers also |
| 04:11.30 | nevjmac | I know that for a fact |
| 04:11.33 | Vail | ah |
| 04:11.42 | nevjmac | I have to take them out of my active players count |
| 04:11.45 | nevjmac | took me ages to realise |
| 04:11.49 | Vail | i see |
| 04:11.54 | onetwo | ah |
| 04:12.00 | onetwo | i think computers or humans |
| 04:12.05 | onetwo | that arent hostile or neutral |
| 04:12.09 | onetwo | anyone that could be in lobby |
| 04:12.09 | Vail | hey what server are you on nevjmac: ? |
| 04:12.10 | onetwo | essentially |
| 04:12.18 | nevjmac | US |
| 04:12.23 | nevjmac | do you want me? |
| 04:12.38 | nevjmac | nevjmac.211 invite me :P |
| 04:13.09 | Vail | do you have a few moments to test something with me? its a bit of a raw map though no info built in but the goal is to kill all of the other teams marines and then their barracks |
| 04:13.15 | nevjmac | sure |
| 04:13.20 | nevjmac | I was doing something similar last night |
| 04:13.21 | nevjmac | was interesting |
| 04:13.37 | Vail | i will push the map to bnet right now and then head to SC2 |
| 04:14.04 | nevjmac | hey onetwo your hero tutorial taught me a few tricks and tips I had no idea about :) thanks for putting that together |
| 04:14.28 | onetwo | np! glad it did |
| 04:14.32 | Vail | oh and as human players we only get to control the hero unit i constructed this week |
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| 04:14.47 | nevjmac | um ok :P |
| 04:18.08 | nevjmac | gonna play roachsnake till your ready vail, just yell out |
| 04:18.27 | Vail | ok i just got the map up so i just need to add you |
| 04:18.32 | Vail | or message anyway |
| 04:18.55 | nevjmac | go ahead :) |
| 04:21.07 | nevjmac | you there yet? :P |
| 04:21.36 | Vail | i see a major oversite i think damn i have to fix the map lol |
| 04:21.49 | nevjmac | so you don't need me? |
| 04:21.54 | Vail | i couldnt add any players to the lobbie |
| 04:22.08 | Vail | so not at this moment |
| 04:22.18 | nevjmac | lol |
| 04:22.32 | nevjmac | np |
| 04:25.39 | JManV | can i tint an icon to any color? |
| 04:25.57 | JManV | or do i have to do it an an image editor? |
| 04:28.09 | Vail | up for giving that map ago now? |
| 04:28.15 | nevjmac | in a game |
| 04:28.22 | nevjmac | will give you a bell when i'm out |
| 04:28.33 | Vail | ah shoot me a message when your free |
| 04:30.03 | onetwo | image editor JMan |
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| 04:38.51 | PointBlank | sigh |
| 04:39.06 | PointBlank | I'm getting a "Variant definitions could not be validated." error on publish |
| 04:39.08 | PointBlank | any help? |
| 04:39.47 | onetwo | game variant problem |
| 04:40.14 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/#posts |
| 04:40.26 | onetwo | go over that, he makes some good points |
| 04:40.31 | onetwo | and btw you cant have custom races |
| 04:40.33 | onetwo | at all |
| 04:40.34 | onetwo | in your map |
| 04:41.24 | PointBlank | yeah i've been going over that |
| 04:41.27 | PointBlank | oh |
| 04:41.32 | PointBlank | found it right away |
| 04:41.33 | PointBlank | godammit |
| 04:41.37 | PointBlank | i read the whole thread |
| 04:41.41 | PointBlank | and it was like the first thing he said |
| 04:41.49 | PointBlank | no controllers in player properties |
| 04:41.50 | PointBlank | :P |
| 04:41.54 | PointBlank | i mean race |
| 04:42.10 | onetwo | lol |
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| 04:46.00 | PointBlank | hey onetwo |
| 04:46.11 | PointBlank | are you guys adding a "view my posts" thing to the forums? |
| 04:46.22 | onetwo | ask Sixen or Vjeux |
| 04:46.24 | onetwo | id like it too |
| 04:46.25 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:46.41 | PointBlank | i was just browsing the other day and found a post i knew the answer to, and i was like oh wait that was my post from months ago |
| 04:46.48 | onetwo | yeah |
| 04:46.49 | onetwo | search for yourself for now i guess |
| 04:46.57 | PointBlank | yup that's what i do |
| 04:47.03 | PointBlank | just saying it sure would be nice ;) |
| 04:47.40 | IskatuMesk | www.gameproc.com/meskstuff/AO2/AS3base_AStest2.mp3 |
| 04:47.42 | IskatuMesk | wat u think bro??? |
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| 04:51.23 | Vail | sorry nevjmac if you are on tomorrow we can see about a test then its time i head out now. later |
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| 04:53.56 | Rodrigo | hello mapsters |
| 04:54.04 | onetwo | hi |
| 04:54.08 | Rodrigo | hi |
| 04:54.57 | Rodrigo | onetwo, I just applied for ubc. tell me the courses u're taking, so I can avoid taking them |
| 04:55.04 | Rodrigo | :D |
| 04:55.08 | onetwo | are you going into comp sci? |
| 04:55.13 | Rodrigo | yes |
| 04:55.17 | onetwo | kk |
| 04:55.24 | onetwo | cpsc 111 greatest course ever |
| 04:55.28 | onetwo | tricked me into liking computer science |
| 04:55.39 | onetwo | anything beyond that = hell |
| 04:55.50 | Rodrigo | I took that course at langara already |
| 04:55.52 | onetwo | hardware, memory, assembly, networking, algorithms |
| 04:55.55 | onetwo | damn |
| 04:55.57 | onetwo | have fun |
| 04:56.00 | onetwo | and if you need arts credits |
| 04:56.06 | onetwo | film production 100/200 |
| 04:56.08 | onetwo | online film studies |
| 04:56.10 | Rodrigo | I do need. |
| 04:56.10 | onetwo | or art history |
| 04:56.12 | onetwo | are the best way to go |
| 04:56.27 | Rodrigo | cause my major is bachelor of arts in comp sci. |
| 04:56.31 | onetwo | 300+ level arts are good |
| 04:56.35 | onetwo | like film studies |
| 04:56.41 | onetwo | not harder than 100 level |
| 04:56.41 | onetwo | i find |
| 04:56.46 | Rodrigo | I''m taking gilm studies next semester at langara |
| 04:56.54 | Rodrigo | film* |
| 04:57.00 | Rodrigo | "the art of short film" |
| 04:57.05 | Rodrigo | I might take more on ubc |
| 04:57.06 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:57.27 | Rodrigo | I have to learn how to say "debatessssssssssssssssss" |
| 04:57.42 | onetwo | wow |
| 04:57.48 | onetwo | leslie nielsen died |
| 04:57.52 | onetwo | spy hard is such a good movie |
| 04:58.08 | Rodrigo | I watched Monsters on friday. Worst movie ever |
| 04:58.19 | Rodrigo | worse than The Last Airbender, if this is possible |
| 04:58.20 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:58.22 | onetwo | hahah |
| 04:58.44 | Rodrigo | worst love story I ever watched in a movie |
| 04:59.05 | onetwo | The tourist |
| 04:59.06 | onetwo | dec 11 |
| 04:59.08 | onetwo | thats what i wanna see |
| 04:59.12 | onetwo | jdepp+angie |
| 04:59.13 | onetwo | = yes |
| 04:59.19 | onetwo | and italy |
| 04:59.21 | onetwo | = yes |
| 04:59.58 | Rodrigo | I also watched the harry potter |
| 05:00.17 | onetwo | i honestly havent been into it since the first movie |
| 05:00.20 | onetwo | but people seem to like it |
| 05:00.21 | Rodrigo | jesus, I HATE movies that end in THE MIDDLE |
| 05:00.40 | Rodrigo | its so frustrating |
| 05:01.05 | Rodrigo | the theme of the movie is DEATH |
| 05:01.05 | nevjmac | the movies are crap |
| 05:01.18 | nevjmac | the books are where its at |
| 05:01.24 | Rodrigo | hp 7 is just about death |
| 05:01.29 | onetwo | oh and news today of wikileaks |
| 05:01.30 | Rodrigo | nothing else |
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| 05:01.47 | onetwo | i looked up wikileaks... watched a video of US soldiers killing iraq civilians who had cameras and were thought to be carryign RPGs |
| 05:01.52 | onetwo | its pretty sad |
| 05:02.00 | onetwo | its one thing to watch killing in a movie |
| 05:02.05 | onetwo | another to watch real people struggling |
| 05:02.18 | onetwo | and shot dead |
| 05:02.39 | Rodrigo | pretty sad today I saw an old woman nearby metrotown. She was in a eletronic wheelchair, but her wheel stopped working on the street |
| 05:02.43 | Rodrigo | she was in shock |
| 05:02.53 | Rodrigo | she said "What am I going to do now?" |
| 05:02.55 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:02.56 | onetwo | wow |
| 05:02.57 | onetwo | she said that? |
| 05:02.58 | Rodrigo | I felt really said for her |
| 05:03.10 | Rodrigo | she said "someone, please, call someone!" |
| 05:03.26 | Rodrigo | and she kept there trying to make her wheelchair walk |
| 05:03.31 | Rodrigo | but her wheelchair was stucked |
| 05:03.51 | Rodrigo | then a 90 years old man showed up and tried to help her |
| 05:03.57 | Rodrigo | but her wheelchair was stucked. |
| 05:04.03 | Rodrigo | he couldn't move her |
| 05:04.14 | Rodrigo | I asked to help, but he just ignored me |
| 05:04.14 | onetwo | if this was a movie im guessing a train would be coming |
| 05:04.20 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 05:04.24 | Rodrigo | I was pretty sad |
| 05:04.27 | Rodrigo | she was desperate |
| 05:04.33 | onetwo | become a scientologist |
| 05:04.35 | onetwo | like tom cruise |
| 05:04.35 | Rodrigo | because she was alone |
| 05:05.00 | Rodrigo | fucking stupid wheelchair company |
| 05:05.25 | Rodrigo | how they made wheelchair that get stucked |
| 05:05.29 | Rodrigo | and she couldn't spin the wheel |
| 05:05.33 | Rodrigo | it was all eletronic |
| 05:05.37 | onetwo | its scary being an engineer for life-dependant things |
| 05:05.40 | Rodrigo | so basically she was stucked at the cold |
| 05:05.53 | Rodrigo | if it wasn't for people around, she could have died |
| 05:05.58 | onetwo | one mistake and your device could be killing hundreds |
| 05:06.04 | Rodrigo | imagine if she is on a street alone |
| 05:06.10 | Rodrigo | and her wheelchair gets stucked |
| 05:06.26 | Rodrigo | luckly, there was people nearby |
| 05:06.30 | Rodrigo | to help her |
| 05:06.50 | Rodrigo | but I was really sad because she was desperate asking for help |
| 05:07.00 | Rodrigo | she was repeating "What am I going to do now!?!?!?" |
| 05:07.43 | onetwo | sue the tobacco companies |
| 05:07.47 | onetwo | i mean wheelchair companies* |
| 05:07.49 | Rodrigo | lol |
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| 05:08.40 | Rodrigo | I thought in asking "can you walk?" |
| 05:08.48 | Rodrigo | but then I realized that would be rally rude |
| 05:08.52 | Rodrigo | really* |
| 05:09.06 | Rodrigo | because she looked fine |
| 05:09.17 | Rodrigo | as if she was using wheelchairs because it's confortable |
| 05:09.28 | Rodrigo | and some people do |
| 05:09.38 | Rodrigo | some old people use wheelchairs just to avoid walking |
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| 05:36.29 | nevjmac | hmmmm why is my invisible pylon not working :/ |
| 05:36.46 | nevjmac | I have created my own with a larger power field |
| 05:36.52 | nevjmac | but the larger power field doesn't seem to work |
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| 05:39.01 | Phaos | hurpa durpa deeeeee |
| 05:43.24 | nevjmac | no ideas? |
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| 06:12.31 | MKmisfit | im obsessed with figuring out how the terrain height works on marsarabridge.m3 and a few other models... it would help so much in my next map |
| 06:14.38 | MKmisfit | marsarabridge works like a terrain object sort of, where it changes the terrain height, except it seems to be built into the .m3 file... diffrence is marsara bridge can be created/moved/rotated at runtime |
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| 06:48.43 | nevjmac | whats the best way to go about duplicating a spine crawler, I want to have 3 different ones that have different hp and damage |
| 07:00.40 | two13 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75PKVg6YxHw&feature=player_embedded |
| 07:00.54 | onetwo | what about my tut? |
| 07:01.03 | two13 | was suggesting that for nevjmac |
| 07:01.10 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:02.49 | nevjmac | oh ty two13 |
| 07:03.02 | two13 | np :) |
| 07:04.05 | two13 | so I've got a custom unit that has a custom size to it, this works fine if i place the unit using the editor and load the game, it's got the bigger size... if i create the unit using a trigger though, it seems to create the correct unit but doesn't make it the correct size... is there something I'm missing in the data editor? |
| 07:04.29 | onetwo | did you set the size in the model or the actor |
| 07:04.42 | two13 | model |
| 07:04.48 | onetwo | odd |
| 07:04.52 | two13 | both min and max to 1.5 |
| 07:04.54 | two13 | for a zergling |
| 07:05.02 | onetwo | probably making the wrong one |
| 07:05.07 | onetwo | might be 2 zergligns |
| 07:05.09 | onetwo | ? |
| 07:05.10 | currydevil | try setting an actor message "actor creation > set scale ##" |
| 07:05.15 | two13 | it's got the correct name and has the correct buff effects |
| 07:05.17 | onetwo | yeah that too |
| 07:05.25 | currydevil | on the zergling actor |
| 07:07.26 | nevjmac | so onetwo basically we are copying everything that can't link to more than one place? |
| 07:08.06 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 07:08.16 | nevjmac | its your tutorial >.< |
| 07:08.25 | nevjmac | lol |
| 07:08.36 | onetwo | i dont know what youre asking |
| 07:08.38 | onetwo | just duplicate a unit |
| 07:08.41 | onetwo | change some numbers |
| 07:08.43 | onetwo | and done |
| 07:08.44 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:09.05 | onetwo | duplicate things you want the 'underlings' to be linked to |
| 07:09.08 | onetwo | and copy paste things like button |
| 07:09.14 | nevjmac | ok different person |
| 07:09.24 | nevjmac | I'm talking about your photon cannon duplication |
| 07:09.30 | onetwo | yeah? |
| 07:10.16 | nevjmac | in your tutorial when you duplicate it, you selected all the effects and actors pretty much |
| 07:10.28 | onetwo | yep |
| 07:10.34 | nevjmac | why not everything else |
| 07:10.36 | onetwo | things that need to be changed |
| 07:10.48 | onetwo | well for instance, the attack, move abilities |
| 07:10.51 | onetwo | they dont need to be duplicated |
| 07:10.55 | onetwo | every unit can use the same one |
| 07:11.00 | onetwo | but our unit needs an actor |
| 07:11.02 | onetwo | a weapon |
| 07:11.03 | onetwo | etc |
| 07:11.15 | onetwo | brb phone |
| 07:11.19 | nevjmac | and we can't use the same weapon otherwise it does the same damage right |
| 07:11.40 | nevjmac | we have to create a new weapon to hold all the effects etc |
| 07:11.41 | two13 | bleh currydevil, i've forgotten how to open that menu to add the actions for when actor's created |
| 07:11.58 | nevjmac | event + |
| 07:12.23 | two13 | there it is, thx :) |
| 07:12.29 | nevjmac | we are even :P |
| 07:12.32 | two13 | hah |
| 07:15.12 | two13 | that worked, thanks curry |
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| 07:16.06 | onetwo | yeah nevjmac |
| 07:16.12 | onetwo | once you know the hierarchy |
| 07:16.13 | onetwo | its not bad |
| 07:16.25 | onetwo | like you could not check off the weapon |
| 07:16.32 | onetwo | but then youd have an effect that existed in space |
| 07:16.35 | onetwo | that no weapon was using |
| 07:16.43 | onetwo | unless you dont check the weapon or the effect |
| 07:16.51 | onetwo | then your photon cannon would use the ones that arleady exist |
| 07:17.00 | onetwo | which may or may not be what you want |
| 07:17.15 | nevjmac | yea I'm using spine crawlers and am wanting them to do different damage |
| 07:17.25 | onetwo | yeah definitely need the actor, attack actor |
| 07:17.28 | onetwo | weapon |
| 07:17.30 | onetwo | effect |
| 07:17.42 | onetwo | but like, if you didnt want the spine crawler to be able to uproot |
| 07:17.50 | onetwo | just dont check the uproot ability |
| 07:17.54 | onetwo | and later on, remove it from the unit |
| 07:18.06 | nevjmac | mmmk ty |
| 07:18.06 | onetwo | cause no matter what, itll still be on it |
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| 07:18.15 | onetwo | whether its your new duplicate uproot or the original |
| 07:18.16 | onetwo | ability |
| 07:20.11 | nevjmac | I havn't used the duplicate before so I wasn't entirely sure how it worked, I had created units from scratch. but the defense units seem like a pain the rear... |
| 07:20.23 | onetwo | it is either way lol |
| 07:20.31 | onetwo | *wishes fora unit wizard* |
| 07:21.35 | nevjmac | there was talk about that from blizzard wasn't there |
| 07:21.59 | nevjmac | rofl ok my spine crawlers are shooting white spheres of doom >.< |
| 07:23.29 | nevjmac | but there was no option to duplicate the missile in the duplication :/ |
| 07:23.57 | two13 | think that video mentions that you have to go back and duplicate that separately |
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| 07:24.44 | brandon___ | hello |
| 07:24.52 | brandon___ | anyone here ever play scrap station? |
| 07:24.59 | two13 | nope never |
| 07:25.05 | brandon___ | really? |
| 07:25.13 | brandon___ | scrap station |
| 07:25.15 | Phaos | what about it ? |
| 07:25.18 | two13 | i mean... yeah, i own sc2, so yeah |
| 07:25.28 | nevjmac | lol |
| 07:25.29 | brandon___ | how to remove the texture |
| 07:25.37 | Phaos | pretty much anyone with sc2 should have at least seen scrap station |
| 07:25.42 | brandon___ | i wanna see the planet and space background |
| 07:25.43 | Phaos | what texture? |
| 07:25.48 | brandon___ | the height etc |
| 07:25.54 | Phaos | you mean the land? |
| 07:25.57 | brandon___ | in scrap station you can see the background |
| 07:26.00 | Phaos | you want to remove the level it's self ? |
| 07:26.03 | brandon___ | yea how to remove the land |
| 07:26.07 | brandon___ | yes |
| 07:26.16 | Phaos | you lower everything to the bottom teir |
| 07:26.21 | Phaos | use the lower terrain tool |
| 07:26.21 | brandon___ | nope doesnt work |
| 07:26.28 | brandon___ | the lower terrain only lower it |
| 07:26.33 | brandon___ | but doesnt make it transparent |
| 07:26.51 | Phaos | sorry not lower terrain, lower cliff |
| 07:27.03 | brandon___ | i use lower cliff |
| 07:27.04 | Phaos | everything needs to be on the bottom cliff level |
| 07:27.19 | Phaos | if that doesn't work your sc2 is broken |
| 07:27.29 | brandon___ | darn it |
| 07:27.34 | brandon___ | really? |
| 07:27.40 | brandon___ | u tried at yours and it worked? |
| 07:27.44 | Phaos | because all the space platform texture set does is makes the lowest cliff level transparent |
| 07:27.51 | brandon___ | damn i spent hours tinkering about this... |
| 07:28.03 | two13 | sec this should be easy enough |
| 07:28.03 | brandon___ | let me try running it |
| 07:28.35 | Phaos | so. are you editing the scrap station map it's self or is this a new level with custom textures ? |
| 07:29.01 | brandon___ | i even tried with scrap station |
| 07:29.13 | two13 | where do you choose a map's background image? you should be able to view it there |
| 07:29.25 | brandon___ | yea looks like my editor is broken |
| 07:29.27 | brandon___ | darn it |
| 07:29.32 | brandon___ | when i run it its transparent |
| 07:29.40 | Phaos | it's not an image two13 its a 3d landscape |
| 07:29.44 | brandon___ | the view in editor still showing the tarain |
| 07:29.47 | Phaos | ah |
| 07:29.53 | Phaos | thats eaasy to solve |
| 07:29.59 | two13 | oic |
| 07:30.11 | Phaos | I'm at work so I don't have the editor open |
| 07:30.20 | Phaos | but it's something like ctrl-shift-c |
| 07:30.34 | Phaos | look in the show/view menu |
| 07:30.49 | brandon___ | yea when i hit V it shows transparent |
| 07:30.58 | brandon___ | otherwise it still shows the land |
| 07:31.01 | Phaos | there you go :) |
| 07:31.04 | brandon___ | man i spent the whole day tinkering it |
| 07:31.13 | brandon___ | what a waste of time |
| 07:31.33 | brandon___ | shoulda asked earlier |
| 07:31.35 | brandon___ | thx |
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| 07:36.34 | Phaos | haha no prob :) |
| 07:36.42 | Phaos | yeah V is really easy to bump |
| 07:36.47 | Phaos | which can cause havoc |
| 07:36.49 | Phaos | :P |
| 07:36.55 | Phaos | "arg my cliffs are a mess!" |
| 07:37.04 | Phaos | "Press V" "O" |
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| 07:37.14 | Phaos | Helral! |
| 07:37.18 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 07:37.26 | Phaos | What uuuuuuup |
| 07:37.30 | Helral|Work | work :( |
| 07:37.35 | Phaos | leam |
| 07:37.41 | Phaos | what do you even do ? |
| 07:37.55 | Helral|Work | I develop software for information management. |
| 07:38.03 | Phaos | BOOOORRRRING |
| 07:38.08 | Helral|Work | ;p |
| 07:38.12 | Phaos | Corporate code monkey D: |
| 07:38.20 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 07:38.31 | Phaos | do something fun like an indie game |
| 07:38.38 | currydevil | So, is there anyway to lock an actors facing so when a unit moves, it doesn't reface to in front of the unit? |
| 07:38.50 | Phaos | and when your boss comes round just be like "f you I'm being a genious" |
| 07:38.50 | currydevil | it's starting to get frustrating. |
| 07:38.52 | Helral|Work | currydevil: set turningspeed to 0 |
| 07:39.00 | Helral|Work | then it won't turn anymore ;p |
| 07:39.03 | currydevil | on the actor? ok cool |
| 07:39.08 | Helral|Work | on the unit |
| 07:39.12 | currydevil | uh no |
| 07:39.13 | currydevil | xD |
| 07:39.16 | currydevil | I need the unit to move |
| 07:39.24 | Helral|Work | the unit can still move. |
| 07:39.29 | Helral|Work | and turn according to the game. |
| 07:39.35 | Helral|Work | but the actor facing won't change. |
| 07:39.39 | currydevil | ok |
| 07:39.55 | Helral|Work | I'd be surprised if it doesn't work. |
| 07:43.27 | currydevil | i think i changed the wrong thing.. turning speed, not turning rate correct? |
| 07:43.55 | currydevil | or stationary turning? or what? |
| 07:44.15 | currydevil | Because when i set turning rate to 0, then unit did a sideways movement, all the actors shot out in front of him |
| 07:44.16 | brandon___ | anyone played star battle? |
| 07:44.21 | currydevil | and he didn't turn at all |
| 07:44.36 | brandon___ | thats an example of popular map |
| 07:44.40 | brandon___ | no brainer on how to play |
| 07:44.52 | brandon___ | make a bit complex map and nobody will play it |
| 07:45.46 | Helral|Work | currydevil: you didn't want him to turn did you? |
| 07:45.55 | Helral|Work | currydevil: I might have misunderstood you though. |
| 07:46.00 | currydevil | Ok |
| 07:46.16 | currydevil | I have this firebat that has a fire nova ability |
| 07:46.21 | currydevil | when he uses said ability |
| 07:46.35 | currydevil | 8 jets of flame spawn shooting in 8 directions |
| 07:46.45 | currydevil | but if i tell him to move while the jets are there |
| 07:46.55 | currydevil | they redirect to his front |
| 07:47.12 | currydevil | i had it working nicely in trigger form |
| 07:47.19 | currydevil | the actors were being killed fast enough |
| 07:47.26 | currydevil | that it was not a problem |
| 07:47.36 | Helral|Work | hmmmm use a persistant effect to adjust the direction of the flames. |
| 07:47.42 | currydevil | set them up in de and now the unit has to not be moving at all so they don't mess up |
| 07:48.16 | Helral|Work | or you can make the unit uncommandable for the duration of the ability. |
| 07:48.18 | currydevil | i'm not familiar with that aspect of a persistent =( as I only just grasped the concept of them a few days ago |
| 07:49.23 | currydevil | bugger, now they're not facing at all |
| 07:49.26 | currydevil | just in front of him |
| 07:50.18 | currydevil | maybe changing the site op to center mesed that up |
| 07:50.31 | currydevil | but i didn't want them spawning halfway in the dirt |
| 07:54.55 | Helral|Work | hmmmm guess I can't help you now then :( cause I don't have the sc2editor here. |
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| 07:59.51 | currydevil | =| |
| 08:03.36 | currydevil | well apparently using a site op overrides an actor message to set the facing |
| 08:03.53 | currydevil | which .. sucks, because without site op the actor spawns in the dirt |
| 08:06.06 | nevjmac | roflmao |
| 08:06.12 | nevjmac | I have a onetwo ghost on my pc |
| 08:06.23 | nevjmac | I have closed all my windows but his voice is coming through my pcs from his tutorial o.O |
| 08:06.33 | nevjmac | I don't have any windows open though |
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| 08:09.02 | brandon___ | hey guys |
| 08:09.10 | brandon___ | have u played star battle? |
| 08:09.34 | brandon___ | i am making that kind of map as well |
| 08:09.46 | brandon___ | looks like the only working thing right now is tug of war |
| 08:09.59 | brandon___ | wasted too much time on rpg |
| 08:10.06 | brandon___ | tower defense |
| 08:10.08 | brandon___ | doesnt work |
| 08:10.17 | brandon___ | tug of war is the only thing that will work |
| 08:14.26 | currydevil | ok so fixed the actor height without site ops |
| 08:14.34 | currydevil | but.. i need to lock the turning =| |
| 08:14.50 | currydevil | or rather have them unaffected by the host turning |
| 08:15.52 | brandon___ | currydevil |
| 08:15.55 | brandon___ | what map are u making? |
| 08:16.00 | brandon___ | tug of war? |
| 08:16.04 | brandon___ | or something else? |
| 08:16.25 | brandon___ | i can tell u right now ur wasting ur time if u dont make tug of war. nobody will play it |
| 08:19.11 | currydevil | are you going to sit here and tell me not to make what I want? I don't care if it gets played. |
| 08:19.23 | currydevil | not everyone is rodrigo and jonesing for #1 on the pop list |
| 08:20.31 | Rodrigo | the 1st in pop list was banned by blizzard and since then it has 2 games/hour |
| 08:21.10 | currydevil | ah well, i'm not making my map to be played by everyone on sc2 |
| 08:21.22 | Rodrigo | so, if you dont want all your work wasted, dont try to get ur map played |
| 08:21.32 | currydevil | I hadn't planned on it lol |
| 08:21.38 | Rodrigo | because being on the top offends half world |
| 08:21.40 | currydevil | I probably won't even publish public |
| 08:21.55 | currydevil | just keep it between myself and who ever wants to play |
| 08:22.20 | Rodrigo | its like "His map is more popular than mine. I am SO OFFENDED. I'm going to report this map" |
| 08:22.33 | wacko | what |
| 08:22.41 | Rodrigo | and blizzard is like "The map was reported! Oh no! they are going to sue us! delete the map!" |
| 08:22.47 | wacko | nah |
| 08:22.50 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 08:22.53 | wacko | It does not work that way and you know it |
| 08:23.04 | Rodrigo | can't I have some fun? |
| 08:23.08 | wacko | no |
| 08:23.24 | Rodrigo | today is my birthday :P |
| 08:23.29 | wacko | so |
| 08:23.49 | Rodrigo | I have to talk about popularity system |
| 08:24.11 | Rodrigo | I went to play Nexus Word Wars today |
| 08:24.18 | Rodrigo | I spent half hour in lobby |
| 08:24.26 | Rodrigo | and I couldn't start a game |
| 08:26.44 | Rodrigo | its being really frustrating |
| 08:27.04 | currydevil | so is not being able to figure out to lock an actors facing when it's created |
| 08:27.07 | Rodrigo | NWW was the last map I made, and I don't plan making more maps |
| 08:27.32 | Rodrigo | not until blizz come up with something more fair |
| 08:28.26 | Rodrigo | currydevil, who is jonesing? |
| 08:31.40 | currydevil | you were when you first got it out =X |
| 08:32.23 | currydevil | anyways, forget I said that. just didn't like the way brandon was telling me my map was no good because it wasn't a tug |
| 08:33.31 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 08:34.00 | Rodrigo | platform defense isn't a tug |
| 08:34.07 | Rodrigo | and it was also on the 1# |
| 08:34.24 | Rodrigo | people didnt report it because there's no world involved |
| 08:34.27 | currydevil | yeah well, that just means brandon doesn't know what he's talking about. |
| 08:34.28 | Rodrigo | words* |
| 08:34.46 | Rodrigo | I'm also surprised how no one reported debates yet |
| 08:35.03 | Rodrigo | because the number of people that quit the game in rage quit, lol |
| 08:35.20 | Rodrigo | one guy was really really upset because he couldn't prove that money does not grow on trees |
| 08:37.40 | Rodrigo | does someone want to play NWW with me? |
| 08:37.49 | Rodrigo | I'm waiting the whole day for someone to play with me |
| 08:38.27 | Helral|Work | money does grow on trees ;p |
| 08:38.41 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 08:38.54 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 08:39.29 | Rodrigo | NWW? Anyone? |
| 08:39.50 | Rodrigo | is mad |
| 08:39.53 | currydevil | Hmm, I really like how site ops override actor events to change facing/height |
| 08:40.53 | Helral|Work | and you can't set the facing in the siteops? |
| 08:41.54 | currydevil | i'm not sure how to if I can |
| 08:44.39 | currydevil | hum, i might have found it.. |
| 08:44.53 | currydevil | now I just have to read this tut correctly. =| |
| 08:46.20 | currydevil | looks like I can create my own site op for it. |
| 08:46.29 | currydevil | (should have realized that) |
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| 08:50.21 | Rodrigo | is watching Vampires Suck |
| 08:50.31 | Rodrigo | this movie sucks |
| 08:58.13 | currydevil | awesome, so my site ops don't work either =| |
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| 09:07.57 | Dryeyece | chex out muh new Hero ability, its a 2 parter, as is all of her abilities. She sort of omnislashes up to 5 targets and marks then for an attack from her T-52 B.A.R. =p took nearly all day to set up and get everything times but im about done just fine fine tuning it now |
| 09:08.00 | Dryeyece | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsay6z8AzFs |
| 09:09.51 | two13 | cool :D |
| 09:10.29 | Dryeyece | you should watch part 1 also, it shows her other 2 abilities, and they all three make T-52 do something different |
| 09:11.16 | Dryeyece | http://www.youtube.com/user/Dryeyece?feature=mhum#p/u/6/2pcVGDr0Iho |
| 09:13.59 | two13 | cool concept you have there |
| 09:14.35 | Dryeyece | ty |
| 09:14.58 | Dryeyece | even her attacks do soemthing lol he cant attack anything with his primary weapon unless she is attacking it with hers |
| 09:15.03 | Dryeyece | 100% data editor |
| 09:15.11 | Dryeyece | not 1 piece of a trigger |
| 09:15.17 | two13 | way beyond me XD |
| 09:15.29 | Dryeyece | hehe |
| 09:15.39 | Dryeyece | it is sort of an exercise in validators for me |
| 09:15.47 | Dryeyece | ive used about 80 of them so far for those abilities |
| 09:16.07 | Dryeyece | she gets one more ability and its the one that unlocks each of his |
| 09:16.24 | two13 | pretty sweet |
| 09:17.13 | Dryeyece | she goes public either tomorrow or the day after check out The Cantina: Drunken Bounty Hunter RPG =p anytime to see all muh heroes |
| 09:17.36 | currydevil | i would but i just want to figure out bloody site ops |
| 09:17.41 | Dryeyece | 3rd page of the custom maps section of either join or create a game 8) |
| 09:17.42 | two13 | oh is she a hero for a different game? |
| 09:17.43 | currydevil | my actors aren't behaving. |
| 09:18.07 | Dryeyece | no shes an addition to my current one |
| 09:18.21 | two13 | gotcha |
| 09:18.33 | Dryeyece | you are probably adding the site ops to the wrong actor or field, or you are adding them in the wrong order if theres more than one |
| 09:18.42 | currydevil | well |
| 09:18.59 | currydevil | not one of the posts i've looked at says anything about order. |
| 09:19.08 | Dryeyece | it matters a lot |
| 09:19.15 | currydevil | and i'm putting it where I put all my other site op to move a model to the center attachment point |
| 09:19.19 | Dryeyece | because just like a triggers actions it executes them in order |
| 09:19.30 | currydevil | well it's not executing anything that I made. |
| 09:19.31 | Dryeyece | the whole thing may only take a millisecond but it happens chronologically |
| 09:19.46 | currydevil | I made 8 explicit site ops, one on each actor |
| 09:19.50 | Dryeyece | then your actors create message isnt happening |
| 09:19.56 | currydevil | and none are facing the right way |
| 09:20.04 | Dryeyece | so if your actor says something like Effect X start : Create |
| 09:20.10 | Dryeyece | then Effect X isnt happening |
| 09:20.14 | Dryeyece | or you forgot to add the art-model |
| 09:20.16 | Dryeyece | etc |
| 09:20.16 | currydevil | my actors are creating. |
| 09:20.24 | currydevil | the site op isn ot working |
| 09:20.25 | currydevil | not* |
| 09:20.35 | currydevil | i can do it just fine with events |
| 09:20.38 | Dryeyece | what is the site op and what kind of actor is it? |
| 09:20.47 | currydevil | it's a firebat flame |
| 09:20.54 | currydevil | model style one shot. |
| 09:21.23 | Dryeyece | what kind of site op is it |
| 09:21.37 | Dryeyece | and do you mean the firebat flame beam? or a flame impact model what kind of flame? |
| 09:21.45 | currydevil | and the site op is explicit rotation with north,south, east, west facings. |
| 09:21.55 | currydevil | the jet of flame |
| 09:22.07 | currydevil | well, there are 8 site ops |
| 09:22.14 | currydevil | each is supposed to face on of those directions |
| 09:22.24 | Dryeyece | you cant do that |
| 09:22.24 | currydevil | with Ne, se, nw, sw included |
| 09:22.35 | currydevil | that's not what PMs tut said. |
| 09:22.42 | currydevil | and why not? |
| 09:22.43 | Dryeyece | you gotta make a new actor to attach each different site op to |
| 09:23.02 | Dryeyece | how ccan the actor diffreentiate between which site op to use? |
| 09:23.11 | Dryeyece | if its got 8 then its gonna try to use all 8 each time |
| 09:23.12 | currydevil | I have 8 actors, and 8 site ops... |
| 09:23.20 | Dryeyece | ahh |
| 09:23.21 | currydevil | -.- |
| 09:23.34 | Dryeyece | so youve got 8 flame attacks launching from a unit |
| 09:23.37 | currydevil | Ok, so this is the problem |
| 09:23.38 | currydevil | yes |
| 09:23.48 | currydevil | I can set the facing just fine and height with event messages |
| 09:23.49 | Dryeyece | and you want them to go in all different direction |
| 09:23.50 | Dryeyece | s |
| 09:23.55 | currydevil | but as soon as I put a site op to attach center |
| 09:23.59 | currydevil | the messages get overriden |
| 09:24.12 | currydevil | and the site op makes each one face the default |
| 09:24.16 | Dryeyece | attach center should be the site op at the very top of the list |
| 09:24.20 | Dryeyece | in the site ops field |
| 09:24.28 | currydevil | ok, well I had that as the only one originally |
| 09:24.38 | currydevil | and it was still blocking the events from setting facing |
| 09:24.56 | Dryeyece | are you trying to override the usualy target location of a damage efffect and make the beam shoot out in a straight line? |
| 09:25.31 | Dryeyece | you are setting facing in the events? |
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| 09:26.19 | currydevil | I was setting facing in events because I was unaware I could use a site op |
| 09:26.28 | Dryeyece | ahh |
| 09:26.34 | currydevil | but when I tried to set the facing, and then use the center attach site op |
| 09:26.39 | currydevil | it ignored the facing |
| 09:26.52 | Dryeyece | well yeah you need to use a site op, but why do you need to change the facing? |
| 09:27.01 | Dryeyece | yeah because site ops override actor messages |
| 09:27.04 | currydevil | the ability is a fire nova |
| 09:27.11 | currydevil | so I need the flames to shoot out in all directions |
| 09:27.15 | currydevil | hence the 8 actors |
| 09:27.18 | Dryeyece | and you want a flaming circle basically |
| 09:27.34 | currydevil | yes, and I achieved it just fine in trigger, but i figured i might try to convert it all to de |
| 09:27.59 | currydevil | but I must be making the explicit site ops wrong or they just won't do what I want. |
| 09:28.15 | Dryeyece | then with a attach center first on the list the your site op to change facing after it in each site op field should do it |
| 09:28.16 | currydevil | so I set 8 site ops each with a diff cardinal direction |
| 09:28.33 | currydevil | ok. well i'll give that a try and see |
| 09:28.51 | Dryeyece | you might have what the facing direction of a beam is by default all messed up though |
| 09:29.22 | Dryeyece | there are cool models you could use for this expanding circle of fire |
| 09:29.24 | currydevil | well, that would have been nice had any one of the posts i read mentioned something about putting them in the right order. |
| 09:29.33 | currydevil | damn such a hassle |
| 09:29.35 | Dryeyece | that arent half as complicated as what you are trying to do |
| 09:29.45 | currydevil | not really |
| 09:29.48 | Dryeyece | check this out bro |
| 09:30.01 | Dryeyece | everything in this editor no matter what anyone tells you |
| 09:30.04 | currydevil | the only model I found was the energy nova shockwave |
| 09:30.04 | Dryeyece | order matters |
| 09:30.08 | currydevil | and scaled down, it sucks bad |
| 09:30.14 | Dryeyece | if say for instance I make a set effect |
| 09:30.17 | currydevil | Well, i'm not disputing that |
| 09:30.22 | Dryeyece | that removes a behavior and does a damage effect |
| 09:30.25 | currydevil | nothing said anything about an order |
| 09:30.33 | Dryeyece | and the damage effect is only validated by the behavior removed |
| 09:30.38 | currydevil | so naturally i'm just going to stick shit on there |
| 09:30.50 | Dryeyece | if the remove behavior effect is first in the set the damage wont happen |
| 09:31.00 | currydevil | you're the first person I got "put them in the right order" from |
| 09:31.07 | Dryeyece | wow |
| 09:31.15 | Dryeyece | I cant believe those guys dont mention that |
| 09:31.22 | Dryeyece | especially with site operations actors |
| 09:31.31 | currydevil | I read about 5-6 diff posts on site ops rotations and such, and nothing said put them in order |
| 09:31.42 | Dryeyece | well |
| 09:31.53 | Dryeyece | if I were you I would use the Molotov Missile Impact |
| 09:32.22 | Dryeyece | set the actors scale to be small enough to hide inside your uit completely |
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| 09:32.50 | Dryeyece | and in its events do an event actor creation set scale to something as big as you want the overall radius of effect to be and blend that over about 1.5 seconds |
| 09:32.59 | Dryeyece | you will have a sweet ass fire nova effect |
| 09:33.08 | Dryeyece | with one actor and one attachment sop |
| 09:34.01 | Dryeyece | plus that particular model makes a column of fire in the center too and it will look like your units is calling down a fire column into himself and radiating it outward |
| 09:34.36 | Rodrigo | ok the movie is over |
| 09:34.39 | Rodrigo | im back |
| 09:34.44 | Dryeyece | WB |
| 09:37.02 | Rodrigo | I'll go to sleep |
| 09:48.38 | currydevil | finiding the molotov model is the first test... |
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| 09:55.07 | two13 | can anyone point me to where i'll find a way to make a unit perma cloaked like a DT? is it going to be in models or actors? |
| 09:56.11 | currydevil | there's a flag on the unit |
| 09:56.16 | currydevil | cloaked |
| 09:57.05 | two13 | found it, and it worked, thanks :D |
| 09:57.09 | currydevil | np |
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| 10:11.50 | two13 | is unit sight radius limited? it isn't changing at all between 20 and 50 |
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| 10:18.18 | Stewox | hi guys |
| 10:24.12 | Stewox | anyone here |
| 10:29.07 | two13 | kinda, watching gsl till i go to sleep |
| 10:29.08 | two13 | sup? |
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| 10:33.50 | Stewox | actually morning here :) |
| 10:34.11 | two13 | 5:30am here =P |
| 10:34.43 | Stewox | how do i change the limit of gathering supplies , limit of workers on one mineral field |
| 10:34.57 | Stewox | so you stayed up that long ? |
| 10:35.22 | Stewox | i know modding can sometimes be so fun you can't stop huh |
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| 10:35.45 | Stewox | 11:35 am here :) |
| 10:36.21 | two13 | i woke up at 9:30am and haven't gone to sleep yet :( |
| 10:36.25 | two13 | been working on this mod all day |
| 10:36.38 | two13 | sorry i don't know the answer to your question :( |
| 10:36.47 | Stewox | okay that's fine |
| 10:37.13 | two13 | do you happen to know how to change unit priority for being selected when selecting multiple units? |
| 10:37.41 | two13 | like if you selected zealots and sentries, sentry would be selected to force field |
| 10:39.39 | two13 | nm found it ^^ subgroup priority |
| 10:40.16 | Stewox | yeah that's it |
| 10:40.18 | Stewox | also |
| 10:40.56 | two13 | fruit dealer about to play :D |
| 10:41.16 | Stewox | pressing TAB to navigate (forgot the correct word) between abilities |
| 10:41.42 | two13 | yeah i know how to switch in game between sub groups but i wanted to have my heroes default to selected |
| 10:41.44 | two13 | :) |
| 10:41.50 | Stewox | learned that like a while ago man im lazy but i got high skills , i noticed it in the loading bar |
| 10:42.22 | Stewox | yes i know what you meant to do ... i moded a lot of other games but im just relatively new here , learning fast though |
| 10:42.28 | Stewox | fruit dealer |
| 10:42.34 | Stewox | i bless that guy |
| 10:42.36 | two13 | i'm new too :) |
| 10:42.41 | Stewox | he revived the power of zerg zezezeze! |
| 10:42.49 | two13 | yeah, gogogo fruit dealer |
| 10:42.58 | Stewox | the match is live somewhere ? |
| 10:43.02 | two13 | yeah! |
| 10:43.04 | two13 | gsl |
| 10:43.06 | two13 | www.gomtv.net |
| 10:43.07 | Stewox | where ? |
| 10:43.22 | Stewox | don't tell me it's for subscription ? |
| 10:43.28 | two13 | no you can watch live for free |
| 10:43.30 | two13 | SD stream |
| 10:43.40 | Stewox | SD only ? |
| 10:43.45 | two13 | yeah HD is paid |
| 10:43.51 | two13 | or... restreamed |
| 10:45.45 | Stewox | i need to log in ? |
| 10:45.52 | Stewox | it already started * |
| 10:45.53 | Stewox | ? |
| 10:45.57 | two13 | you have to have an account |
| 10:46.19 | Stewox | wow for some reason i try to register and it doesn't work all this time |
| 10:46.26 | Stewox | and i found out im already registered :D |
| 10:46.30 | two13 | it's a pretty terrible website usually |
| 10:46.31 | Stewox | let's watch |
| 10:46.51 | Stewox | well it didn't tell me im already unitl i start to think |
| 10:48.12 | Stewox | WOW SD quality is so bad |
| 10:48.17 | two13 | lol yeah |
| 10:50.59 | Stewox | thats the same guys as from blizz con (comentators ) |
| 10:51.00 | Stewox | ? |
| 10:51.20 | two13 | tasteless and artosis |
| 10:51.26 | two13 | they commentated blizzcon with day9 |
| 10:51.36 | two13 | funny he mentions blizzcon right at that second lol |
| 10:52.25 | Stewox | YEAH BANELING :D |
| 10:52.41 | two13 | man i cringed, i thought fruit dealer was going to walk right by the mm |
| 10:52.42 | two13 | lol |
| 10:52.46 | Stewox | hehe |
| 10:53.37 | Stewox | thanks for mentiong it , i wouldn't have watched it if i wouldn't knew |
| 10:53.45 | Stewox | forgot about gomtv at all |
| 10:54.12 | two13 | yeah, gsl's the best |
| 10:54.24 | two13 | i watch other tourneys too but gsl's is on a level of its own |
| 10:55.00 | Clord | "I can call your baby bet and pay for sandvich" |
| 10:55.28 | two13 | that from the valve poker game? lolz |
| 10:55.34 | two13 | i haven't played it... sounds like heavy |
| 10:55.43 | Clord | you are spot on |
| 10:56.03 | Clord | it is one of possible lines when heavy uses call |
| 10:56.38 | two13 | hah |
| 10:57.13 | Clord | also even if character folds... it does not mean he shuts up ^^ sometimes they start their discussions anyway middle of play and Tycho loves to make suggestions after he has already folded too.... and even if not |
| 10:59.03 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:59.15 | two13 | this is rough :( |
| 11:00.12 | Helral|Work | what is rough, 2B? |
| 11:01.16 | two13 | that gsl game |
| 11:03.16 | Stewox | so the new match ... |
| 11:03.17 | Stewox | how many |
| 11:03.21 | Stewox | not actually familiar |
| 11:03.23 | Stewox | 3 or 5 ? |
| 11:04.08 | two13 | best of 3 |
| 11:04.46 | Stewox | this is the second one now ? |
| 11:05.07 | two13 | yeah |
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| 11:30.02 | Helral|Work | meows |
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| 11:48.07 | Stewox | anyone here |
| 11:49.32 | Kenetor | no |
| 11:49.38 | Kenetor | i killed them all |
| 11:49.50 | Kenetor | and ate their livers |
| 11:50.54 | Stewox | do you know how to change limit of gathering minerals |
| 11:51.07 | Stewox | limit how many workers can gather at the same time |
| 11:52.20 | Kenetor | no idea |
| 11:52.27 | Kenetor | did you search the forums? |
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| 12:40.56 | Stewox | is there any list of console commands |
| 12:41.38 | A1win | there's a console? O_o |
| 12:42.18 | Stewox | editor at least |
| 12:42.28 | Stewox | probably in the game but disabled for security purposesd |
| 12:42.59 | Stewox | i want to reload data/terrain etc without having to always save the map and reopen it |
| 12:43.17 | Stewox | actually save , shut down , start , and then reopen |
| 12:43.52 | Stewox | because the data i edited doesn't update on the terrain in realtime , pretty much everything but apparently not all |
| 12:44.19 | Clord | aah... now THE Card Game community asks for more cards.... gotta add Battlecruiser ^^ |
| 12:51.27 | Dekar- | add a card throwing hero clord |
| 12:53.05 | Stewox | what is fidget ? |
| 12:55.06 | Clord | hmmmmm |
| 12:55.13 | Clord | card stealer lol ^^ |
| 12:56.19 | Dekar- | fidget is idle animations i think |
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| 12:57.28 | Stewox | Ok |
| 12:57.51 | Stewox | Also , how can i make more separate weapons on the same unit |
| 12:58.12 | Stewox | i copied FREE ROTATE 3 times and added 3 more weapons to the mothership |
| 12:58.18 | Stewox | but it still fires with only one |
| 12:58.47 | Stewox | each turret for weapon copied but i have no idea if that makes it separate TURRET as a setting i think not actually |
| 12:58.57 | Stewox | i forgot where the turret settings are |
| 13:01.09 | Dekar- | i should have tried to update my gom player earlier ._. |
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| 13:15.45 | Clord | aaah Mothership epic card... nothing like Vortex hell |
| 13:15.47 | Clord | ^^ |
| 13:16.45 | Stewox | so how to make 2 weapons on the same unit ? |
| 13:16.49 | Stewox | separate turrets |
| 13:17.14 | Clord | errrm... you can make two weapons without turrets.. assuming unit looks always target what it shoots |
| 13:17.27 | Clord | Hydralisk for example.. it has hidden melee weapon for melee animation |
| 13:17.29 | Clord | :) |
| 13:18.54 | Stewox | so the mele is just an animation but it's the same weapon firing ? |
| 13:19.24 | Stewox | well it's servers the purpose of balance |
| 13:19.29 | Stewox | realims not actually |
| 13:20.09 | Stewox | but anyways i want to have separate turrets so the two or more weapons act independently and can target it's own enemies , i don't want all of them fire at the same target |
| 13:24.23 | Dekar- | i dont think that works with the data editor |
| 13:25.37 | Stewox | well that's a simple thing but im just new |
| 13:26.22 | Clord | errrm... it is hidden second weapon :) |
| 13:26.36 | Clord | what it uses in specific case over that what actually shoots |
| 13:31.17 | Stewox | well editor crashed on me |
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| 13:41.16 | Vail | hello every body |
| 13:41.38 | Xaragoth | just because I noticed |
| 13:41.50 | Xaragoth | you can currently get Orange Box & Poker Night for 12€ roughly |
| 13:41.55 | Xaragoth | on Steam |
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| 13:46.25 | Vail | yall are a friendly lot |
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| 14:01.09 | Stewox | hello |
| 14:02.09 | Clord | Orange box... it was quite good deal before |
| 14:06.22 | Clord | it is still unclear why valve possibly scrapped even idea making episode three XD |
| 14:06.36 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 14:07.20 | Helral|Work | Stewox: think it was done with siteops or something. To allow multiple weapons to fire at the same time. |
| 14:07.56 | Stewox | oh |
| 14:08.04 | Stewox | do you know exactly what i mean to do ? |
| 14:08.17 | Stewox | 2 weapons on a single unit , ranged weapon like the mothership laser |
| 14:08.17 | Helral|Work | not really. |
| 14:08.35 | Stewox | but they have 2 of them , one at each side or both on the same doesn't matter |
| 14:08.48 | Helral|Work | but I know that getting 2 weapons to fire at the same time (although perhaps different targets) was done with siteops during beta ;p dunno about now though. |
| 14:09.05 | Stewox | and they act independently , so they won't target the same enemy always |
| 14:09.09 | Helral|Work | there should be some tutorials up. |
| 14:09.16 | Helral|Work | no mapster about it |
| 14:09.19 | Helral|Work | on* |
| 14:09.21 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:09.40 | Stewox | hmm a lot of people say since the beta some stuff is not supported anymore ... |
| 14:09.47 | Stewox | maybe it wasn't working right or what |
| 14:09.58 | Stewox | like gamespeed and some function customizations |
| 14:14.26 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 14:14.57 | Helral|Work | well I know that some people said that their maps stopped working correctly after some patches. While my own map never broke ;p |
| 14:17.30 | Dekar- | what is your map? |
| 14:17.42 | Helral|Work | Helral's Random Dungeon Map ;p |
| 14:17.55 | Helral|Work | still in development, although you can download it from sc2mapster and solo-play it a bit. |
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| 14:18.19 | Helral|Work | hey Sixen |
| 14:18.28 | Dekar- | because your map doesnt use the nooby data editor that much :p |
| 14:18.58 | Helral|Work | most of it is trigger based atm ;p although I do use some data editor stuff. |
| 14:19.12 | Sixen | ./wave |
| 14:19.26 | Helral|Work | waves at Sixen with a trout |
| 14:19.30 | Helral|Work | meows |
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| 14:21.11 | Helral|Work | hey Skizot |
| 14:21.46 | Dekar- | dont you have to work? why do you have time to greet everyone? |
| 14:22.03 | Helral|Work | currently uploading something for work ;p so I got some time. |
| 14:22.04 | Skizot | hey |
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| 14:22.36 | Helral|Work | Skizot, I was wondering: could you make me a door that goes with the wall you made for me during beta? |
| 14:23.24 | Skizot | uhhh... possibly? |
| 14:23.57 | Helral|Work | thinks Skizot was surprised by the question. |
| 14:24.54 | Skizot | nah. |
| 14:24.55 | Skizot | i'm pretty sure i could. |
| 14:24.55 | Skizot | would it need animations? |
| 14:25.20 | A1win | let's see what the random dungeon map is made of... |
| 14:25.49 | A1win | hmm |
| 14:25.53 | A1win | trigger errors :x |
| 14:26.04 | Helral|Work | open and close animation. |
| 14:26.19 | Helral|Work | A1win: not my fault that blizzard can't handle my correct code ;p |
| 14:26.24 | A1win | :P |
| 14:26.40 | Helral|Work | neh It's still in development because I haven't taken the time to clean up those errors. |
| 14:26.46 | A1win | the wall occlusion looks bad :x |
| 14:26.50 | A1win | hehe |
| 14:26.56 | Helral|Work | A1win: blame blizzard. |
| 14:27.02 | Helral|Work | it is their occlusion. |
| 14:27.24 | Skizot | ? |
| 14:27.27 | A1win | disable the blob shadow from the walls |
| 14:27.38 | Helral|Work | blob shadow?? |
| 14:27.46 | A1win | oh right I have graphics on low XD |
| 14:27.52 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 14:27.53 | A1win | but yeah it looks bad on low |
| 14:28.02 | Helral|Work | I have my settings at max ;p |
| 14:28.03 | A1win | a circle shadow inside the occluded walls |
| 14:28.09 | A1win | yea you should try low ;3 |
| 14:28.13 | Helral|Work | ah ok. |
| 14:28.28 | A1win | I usually have them on nearly max too but was taking a video and this couldn't handle it :P |
| 14:28.50 | Helral|Work | when making a sc2vid I have it at medium/high. |
| 14:29.11 | Helral|Work | or was it still at max... |
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| 14:29.35 | A1win | my processor is a bit outdated, but graphics card is brand new |
| 14:29.42 | A1win | so video capture is crap because it eats up cpu :P |
| 14:29.45 | Skizot | helral would the animations from the xelnaga tower work? |
| 14:30.01 | Helral|Work | animations of the xelnaga tower?? |
| 14:30.11 | Skizot | Stand, Stand_Start, Work, Stand_End |
| 14:30.16 | A1win | the controls are a bit iffy too, the zealot runs weirdly if I click inside a wall or something |
| 14:30.22 | Helral|Work | oh the terms? |
| 14:30.27 | Skizot | so you could use a tower as a temp unit |
| 14:31.04 | Helral|Work | I know hot to create actor events :) so changing from state A into state B using animation C would be not much of a problem. |
| 14:31.26 | A1win | oh you have wasd controls on as well :P |
| 14:31.41 | Skizot | well that way i could use the tower as a base so it already has all the animation built in :P |
| 14:31.41 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 14:31.45 | A1win | hmm |
| 14:31.56 | A1win | why does the zealot take a step back after I release wasd? |
| 14:32.04 | Helral|Work | fine by me Skizot :) as long as it can open/close ;p |
| 14:32.24 | Helral|Work | A1win: hmmm dunno. He shouldn't. |
| 14:32.40 | A1win | ah |
| 14:32.45 | A1win | because I was holding mouse2 and released it :P |
| 14:32.50 | Helral|Work | hahaha |
| 14:32.51 | A1win | that's weird |
| 14:32.53 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 14:32.57 | Skizot | i will try to do something for ya. |
| 14:33.00 | A1win | why does he move when I release it though? ;D |
| 14:33.13 | Helral|Work | I catch mouse clicks. |
| 14:33.30 | A1win | but why on release and not when pressed down? |
| 14:33.38 | Helral|Work | but blizzard has a bad implementation of them. |
| 14:34.07 | A1win | you could count like 0.25 sec after you press mouse2 Down and after that, disable the move order when pressing mouse2 Up ;o |
| 14:34.07 | Helral|Work | well they should have 3 triggers instead of 2. down, up, click. blizzard only has first 2 I think. |
| 14:34.14 | A1win | that's how I did selection for my 3rd person thing |
| 14:34.17 | Helral|Work | true. |
| 14:34.28 | Helral|Work | I'll take a look at that when I think of it ;p |
| 14:34.47 | Helral|Work | goes back to work |
| 14:36.02 | A1win | what about using "floor tiles" so you can more easily see which parts of the map is still unexplored |
| 14:38.10 | Helral|Work | A1win: get me something I can use for floortiles and suggest it on the project workspace for my map ;p and I might implement it. |
| 14:38.21 | A1win | :I |
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| 14:43.05 | A1win | what about disabling occlusion and just swapping the model of the walls that block vision into lower models |
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| 14:44.32 | Helral|Work | A1win: uhm because that would be a hassle. occlusion is easier ;p |
| 14:44.43 | A1win | but it's ugly as hell ;3 |
| 14:44.45 | Dekar- | anyone knows what happend to the phyngal editor extension? |
| 14:46.35 | Skizot | Helral|Work, same size as the wall for the door? |
| 14:50.02 | A1win | now I want to make my own random dungeon generator ;[ |
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| 14:50.51 | A1win | 3rd person view might work for a random dungeon map as well... |
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| 14:52.16 | A1win | except the camera wouldn't properly collide with the walls.. mff |
| 14:53.56 | A1win | I suppose if I'd disable zooming, I'd be able to adjust camera distance if it'd go too close to a wall... |
| 14:54.17 | A1win | how are FPS cameras made btw? if I set the camera distance too close to the followed unit, it starts to stagger |
| 14:54.18 | Helral|Work | Skizot: please do. |
| 14:54.40 | Skizot | k |
| 14:54.50 | Skizot | so my giant stone circle door is out. |
| 14:55.06 | Helral|Work | that's also allowed. as long as it works it's fine :) |
| 14:55.32 | Helral|Work | just need the space that is in front of the opening to be the same. |
| 15:00.09 | A1win | hmm interesting, this fps library limits camera bounds to a 0.01 sized region around the followed unit |
| 15:00.12 | A1win | got to try that ;p |
| 15:00.54 | A1win | it stutters a lot in this library though but maybe it could fix my bugs |
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| 15:02.51 | A1win | or maybe not :P |
| 15:03.10 | A1win | it just makes the camera instantly swap into the bounds so it's glitchy... |
| 15:04.52 | A1win | hmmm |
| 15:05.03 | A1win | but if the camera is inside the wall, the wall won't show :o |
| 15:05.35 | A1win | so if the walls only had those sides visible that are facing the inside of the dungeon... and were thick enough so that the camera didn't go to the other side even if the unit was right next to the wall.. |
| 15:06.00 | A1win | which would mean either 2x2 sized walls or the camera would have to be very close to the character |
| 15:06.34 | A1win | if character radius was 0.5 then it'd only have to be at 1.5 distance to allow 1x1 walls |
| 15:06.42 | A1win | should be enough with high enough field of view |
| 15:06.42 | A1win | :x |
| 15:23.44 | A1win | Helral|Work, I think your occlusion looks so bad because the walls have their surfaces visible also from the inside |
| 15:32.30 | Stewox | hello |
| 15:32.41 | Stewox | how to expand an area |
| 15:33.01 | Helral|Work | A1win: the occlusion is purely there for seeing your unit when it's hidden by some walls. ;p |
| 15:33.15 | A1win | Helral|Work, yea I know what it's for ;p |
| 15:33.32 | A1win | but it looks bad because the model isn't made as it should be :P |
| 15:34.10 | A1win | anyways I need a different kind of model... |
| 15:35.41 | Stewox | how do i add more circles to the same region |
| 15:36.09 | Helral|Work | edit the region and add more circles. |
| 15:36.24 | A1win | the shapes tab |
| 15:37.18 | Stewox | can't add more it makes new one |
| 15:37.31 | A1win | open the region properties |
| 15:37.36 | Stewox | i have to draw more of them on the shapes tab |
| 15:37.43 | Stewox | ? |
| 15:38.03 | A1win | you add it in the shapes tab, then you can change its size in the map |
| 15:38.10 | A1win | or can you... |
| 15:38.34 | Stewox | i can't do anything on the shapes tab |
| 15:38.40 | Stewox | just side i think |
| 15:38.41 | A1win | right click the list |
| 15:39.11 | Stewox | okay there they are |
| 15:39.20 | Stewox | well ti's kind of silly |
| 15:39.23 | A1win | but you can only edit them in there x\ can't change their siz ein world |
| 15:39.25 | A1win | yeah... |
| 15:39.34 | A1win | you can also use triggers to add regions into regions |
| 15:39.35 | Stewox | why can i right click it when the CIRCLES show on the left pane , |
| 15:40.11 | Stewox | okay thanks works now |
| 15:40.14 | A1win | oh you can select them there |
| 15:40.16 | A1win | cool :P |
| 15:41.37 | Stewox | yes , only select |
| 15:42.13 | Stewox | i have to dig down to add them should be relatively easy if the right click would work on the left pane when you select the parent region |
| 15:42.38 | A1win | mm... |
| 15:43.04 | A1win | what do I need to make a simple custom wall model xO |
| 15:45.03 | Stewox | if i want to make a prebuilt asimilator |
| 15:47.08 | Stewox | thwn i just place it |
| 15:47.27 | Stewox | and the gyser IS automatically below it |
| 15:47.34 | A1win | hmm cool I could use the "perimeter wall" models for this I guess... |
| 15:47.43 | Stewox | casue i cant place i on the gyser |
| 15:48.54 | A1win | remove the geyser |
| 15:49.20 | A1win | the assimilator has it automatically |
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| 15:51.34 | A1win | bah these walls don't have corners to every direction |
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| 16:04.28 | Barrin | *throws pixie dust of luv on everyone* |
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| 16:15.59 | A1win | how do I give los blocking footprint for a unit actor :E |
| 16:16.33 | Obatztrara | hey hooo |
| 16:19.29 | Dekar- | yey |
| 16:22.19 | A1win | Helral|Work, trying to look through your map but can't figure out how you make the walls block line of sight :I |
| 16:23.10 | A1win | oh |
| 16:23.16 | A1win | found it :P |
| 16:29.32 | Dekar- | featured maps are so bad |
| 16:29.33 | Dekar- | ._. |
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| 16:38.30 | Megalon | that's why they are featured |
| 16:38.34 | Megalon | else no one would play them |
| 16:39.10 | Obatztrara | hey Dekar- , whats up? ;) |
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| 16:39.21 | Dekar- | playing around |
| 16:39.41 | Obatztrara | ;) |
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| 16:40.23 | Ashamed | so my wife bought be a pc for my bday :) |
| 16:40.31 | Ashamed | and itt will be able to run sc2 at full! |
| 16:40.34 | Ashamed | mby |
| 16:40.57 | Ashamed | its not the greatest lol but i am thinking it should be able to run sc2 at full |
| 16:41.22 | Obatztrara | quite the thoughtful wife :D |
| 16:41.25 | Obatztrara | lucky you ;) |
| 16:41.37 | Ashamed | well i guess my friend bought half of it too |
| 16:41.43 | Ashamed | yeah its pretty cool :0 |
| 16:41.44 | Ashamed | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130538 |
| 16:41.46 | Ashamed | thats the card |
| 16:42.14 | Obatztrara | nice |
| 16:43.35 | Ashamed | decent |
| 16:43.43 | Ashamed | i am hoping it should run sc2 at full |
| 16:43.45 | Ashamed | or very close |
| 16:47.14 | Vail | i know this is way off topic but is any here good with flash actionscript 3.0? |
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| 16:54.53 | Helral | meows |
| 16:54.59 | Dekar- | barks |
| 16:55.09 | Helral | can someone please tell me who I can blame for the snow? |
| 16:55.21 | Dekar- | global warming |
| 16:55.35 | Helral | throws Dekar- a fishbone |
| 16:55.54 | Helral | I thought global warming was supposed to prevent snowing, and instead cause rain.... |
| 16:55.55 | Dekar- | snatches the fishbone out of the air and chews on it |
| 16:56.07 | A1win | any ideas how to make the unit see the entire corridor when it enters it :E should I just make regions for each area and create a revealer |
| 16:56.29 | Helral | why not just set the sight of the unit high? |
| 16:56.39 | Dekar- | nono, it makes the polar ice melt and that messes up EVERYTHING in the ocean and the result is that the warm water doesnt flow to us anymore |
| 16:57.06 | Helral | did the warm water ever flow to you? |
| 16:57.22 | A1win | Helral, because the walls block los so I only see the wall next to another when I go around the corner so that I can see the unit's center |
| 16:57.30 | A1win | just like in your random dungeon map |
| 16:58.04 | Helral | hmmm you mean that you don't automatically see all walls of the corridor? |
| 16:58.29 | A1win | not all, just the ones I'm in the same room/corridor with |
| 16:58.49 | Helral | A1win: define corridor ;p |
| 16:59.09 | Helral | for me it a straight room with a width of 1 or 2 tiles. |
| 16:59.18 | Helral | and a length of X. |
| 16:59.22 | A1win | an area whose walls you would normally see if you stood anywhere inside it :P |
| 16:59.40 | A1win | the unit only sees the walls that aren't blocked by other walls |
| 16:59.46 | Helral | hmmm |
| 16:59.49 | A1win | I mean |
| 17:00.01 | A1win | the unit only sees walls whose *center* is not blocked by other walls |
| 17:00.29 | Helral | hmmm... so basicly what you need is something that also makes a wall visible if it's side is seen and not only it's center. |
| 17:00.37 | A1win | yea |
| 17:04.42 | A1win | one way would be to have walls with thickness of 3 and only have los blockers in the middle part :P but that'd make quite thick walls... |
| 17:06.18 | A1win | what if I put dummy units on the corridor and share vision of those dummy units that are visible to the unit =p I'd probably need to have another dummy unit on the unit itself owned by some "dummy player" whose vision I can check for the dummy units, otherwise they'd chain up to the whole dungeon |
| 17:06.46 | Ashamed | its snowing here too |
| 17:06.49 | Ashamed | not too much yet |
| 17:08.02 | A1win | -18 C here x3 |
| 17:08.33 | Helral | hmmm you could also spread the vision depending on how the units are seen. |
| 17:08.45 | Helral | but not sure yet how to do it exactly. |
| 17:08.49 | A1win | hmm |
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| 17:10.52 | A1win | just check if any of the middle points of the four sides of the wall is visible to the dummy player and if so, share the vision of the wall with the actual player |
| 17:11.25 | Clord | hmmmm.. my PSU took motherboard and graphic card with him XD |
| 17:11.30 | A1win | and only check that for walls near the player |
| 17:11.39 | Clord | so I went to dual 5770 =) |
| 17:14.53 | A1win | eh isn't there a "point is visible to player" function |
| 17:17.27 | A1win | hmm I won't even need a dummy player if I don't let the vision chain more than once |
| 17:17.55 | A1win | just need to add the units to a unit group and reveal them at the same time |
| 17:19.04 | Helral | hmmm how to handle a wall that should be hidden, but is continuous.... |
| 17:21.47 | Helral | take this "F" as example. you are below the end of the F, you can't see the top corner nor that the wall goes on, because the first wall is in the way (the bottom line of the F). how to handle this differently then a corridor... |
| 17:25.48 | A1win | F is the corridor or the walls? |
| 17:26.01 | Helral | the wall structure. |
| 17:26.06 | Helral | as an example. |
| 17:26.35 | A1win | not sure what you mean :E |
| 17:27.06 | Helral | hmmm pastebin doesn't work atm for me :( what's another paste site? |
| 17:27.27 | A1win | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/ |
| 17:28.11 | A1win | I stil didn't fine a function that tells if a point is visible to a player x.x do I need to make 4 dummy units for every wall -.- |
| 17:29.02 | Helral | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/dhmwq854b0n9eafk/ |
| 17:29.19 | A1win | "Player Can Create Effect At Point", could that be used to find out if a point is visible? |
| 17:29.20 | Helral | that example, X is you, the rest of the lines are walls. |
| 17:29.42 | A1win | so what's the problem? |
| 17:29.49 | Helral | if you make the effect use the requirement/validator is visible. |
| 17:30.06 | A1win | mmh |
| 17:30.27 | Helral | at that example how do you determine that he isn't in the corridor, thus shouldn't see the entire top wall. |
| 17:31.23 | A1win | I'm gonna check the wall unit centers, not the entire corridor |
| 17:31.27 | A1win | I mean |
| 17:31.30 | Helral | that's basicly what I bumped into with my thoughts. |
| 17:31.42 | A1win | the middle points of the four sides of the LOS block footprint |
| 17:32.04 | A1win | if you can see that, I'll share vision with the wall |
| 17:33.18 | A1win | what effect type I should use |
| 17:33.26 | A1win | does it even matter? |
| 17:37.58 | A1win | hmm the effect worked on the first try |
| 17:43.42 | A1win | woot it works |
| 17:43.45 | A1win | the whole thing ;3 |
| 17:44.09 | A1win | err except that now it revealed a wall part behind another wall |
| 17:44.17 | A1win | something still isn't right :P |
| 17:44.28 | A1win | oh |
| 17:44.33 | A1win | a typo |
| 17:44.34 | A1win | ^^ |
| 17:44.52 | A1win | had 0.55 instead of -0.55 for one of the conditions |
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| 17:47.47 | A1win | Helral, http://paste.sc2mapster.com/2927/ |
| 17:49.19 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 17:49.24 | Helral | that one works for you? |
| 17:49.30 | A1win | yea |
| 17:49.38 | A1win | how do I make a unit disappear if it's not in vision? |
| 17:50.01 | Helral | change the flag on it so that it isn't snapshot |
| 17:50.11 | Helral | UI - Fog VisibilitySnapshot |
| 17:50.14 | A1win | ah |
| 17:50.14 | Helral | that one |
| 17:51.05 | A1win | mmh I can still see some units in corners through others... |
| 17:51.45 | Helral | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.11 | A1win | it is, but it doesn't matter |
| 17:52.27 | A1win | because none of the walls have vision sharing on when I check the points |
| 17:52.51 | A1win | 1) unshare vision of all walls 2) check the points the player can see 3) share vision of all walls whose points the player can see |
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| 17:53.03 | A1win | but I think the player can see "inside" the los block footprint |
| 17:53.14 | A1win | so the 0.55 sould probably be 0.49 or something |
| 17:53.52 | A1win | now I can see all walls through other walls if they are right next to them |
| 17:54.02 | A1win | bah 0.49 won't work |
| 17:54.39 | A1win | I'll try 0.5 then... |
| 17:54.52 | A1win | bleh same bug with that |
| 17:55.01 | A1win | hm interesting |
| 17:55.46 | A1win | 0, 0.5 and 0.5, 0 offsets work but 0, -0.5 and -0.5, 0 don't |
| 17:56.04 | A1win | that probably isn't even the bug... |
| 17:57.17 | A1win | oh well it doesn't really matter |
| 17:57.26 | Helral | lol I can see over the walls now ;p |
| 17:57.29 | A1win | since the walls will block the vision anyway :P |
| 17:57.39 | A1win | hmm? ;x |
| 17:57.48 | Helral | I set unit vision height to 1 ;p |
| 17:57.53 | A1win | :P |
| 17:58.46 | A1win | uff still some problems with that |
| 17:58.57 | A1win | because the vision system isn't perfect to begin with :X |
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| 17:59.45 | A1win | since the game reveals vision one square at a time instead of using straight lines from the unit |
| 18:00.03 | A1win | should probably increase that to 1.5 from 0.55 |
| 18:11.38 | A1win | or maybe check 2 squares to each direction, but only if there isn't another wall in that direction |
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| 18:14.34 | A1win | need to check diagonal too for corner tiles |
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| 18:15.36 | A1win | ah... even vision source is considered a 1x1 area instead of the unit's actual origin |
| 18:16.00 | A1win | the center of that 1x1 square the unit is in, that is |
| 18:16.11 | A1win | maybe I should make 8 dummy vision sources around the player =p |
| 18:21.22 | Helral | hmmm |
| 18:23.28 | Helral | it's a shame that the LoS is done with solid squares.... |
| 18:23.29 | Dekar- | hmm |
| 18:23.37 | A1win | mmm |
| 18:23.53 | Helral | I just checked the footprints for LoS blocking if I could reduce the area. |
| 18:24.11 | Dekar- | its probably a few less calculatons when oyu have thousands of units running around |
| 18:25.11 | Helral | well I can just place an invisible unit at each corner of the wall. if the unit is visible, then the wall is visible |
| 18:26.18 | A1win | this trigger does it without units ;p |
| 18:26.23 | Dekar- | yeah |
| 18:26.31 | Dekar- | point is visible or something! |
| 18:26.53 | A1win | but there's quite a lot of calculations in this now that I check more stuff... |
| 18:27.15 | A1win | I should probably check this only when the unit changes from one square to another |
| 18:28.20 | Obatztrara | I have a problem :/ ...data related |
| 18:28.42 | Obatztrara | Helral are you still here? |
| 18:29.08 | Helral | meow |
| 18:29.22 | Helral | I'm trying to do it with the DE actually A1win ;p |
| 18:29.36 | Obatztrara | remember the mutalisk actor who got constantly stuck in the air? |
| 18:29.52 | A1win | ah :x |
| 18:30.41 | Obatztrara | well I have narrowed down the problem: When i switch the mover from air to ground it happens |
| 18:30.50 | Obatztrara | I change back to mover air and its ok again >_> |
| 18:31.04 | Helral | hehehe |
| 18:31.16 | A1win | damn my system still has problems with some corners |
| 18:31.20 | Obatztrara | feast on my pain! way to go ;_; |
| 18:31.51 | Helral | Obatztrara: set the unit height ;p |
| 18:32.36 | Obatztrara | Where exatcly? UI - Height is set to 3,75 which is correct |
| 18:32.38 | Obatztrara | where else? |
| 18:32.41 | Helral | hmmm |
| 18:32.47 | Helral | one mom. |
| 18:33.02 | Helral | why do you change mover? |
| 18:33.26 | Obatztrara | because I dont want flying units to move all over the place |
| 18:33.49 | Obatztrara | they can fly over ground units but they cant cross say trees or other doodads |
| 18:34.04 | Helral | go to the fly mover (data type: movers) |
| 18:34.10 | Helral | change the pathing mode to ground. |
| 18:34.24 | Obatztrara | hmmmm ok Ill look into that :) |
| 18:35.31 | A1win | pff this isn't really working as I'd want it to :I |
| 18:36.06 | A1win | except that if this is 3rd person then I'm not even sure if I need the walls to be hidden from the beginning... |
| 18:36.28 | A1win | though I guess I want a minimap |
| 18:37.58 | Helral | A1win: use 2 units then ;p 1 that's shown on the minimap, and 1 that isn't but is always visible (the wall). |
| 18:38.01 | A1win | hmm seems good enough now |
| 18:38.11 | A1win | mm could do that too |
| 18:38.34 | Dekar- | ﾆ ﾃﾗﾅﾘｼ ｼﾗ ﾆｶ ｶﾗﾗ ﾘﾗﾘ |
| 18:39.51 | Helral | ??? |
| 18:39.57 | Obatztrara | yea right x_x |
| 18:40.03 | Obatztrara | thats what she said |
| 18:40.10 | A1win | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/2929/ |
| 18:40.23 | Dekar- | im writing in kana because im hip! |
| 18:40.41 | Helral | ow sorry mine was hiragana ;p |
| 18:40.53 | Obatztrara | yea i was gonna point that out newb |
| 18:40.54 | Obatztrara | :P |
| 18:41.07 | Helral | ??? |
| 18:41.16 | Helral | That better? |
| 18:42.10 | A1win | now I just need proper wall models that will work with my camera |
| 18:42.40 | Obatztrara | o darn...Helral its not fixed :( |
| 18:42.57 | Obatztrara | in fact now he can fly like a normal unit AND gets stuck in the air when he stops |
| 18:43.14 | Obatztrara | (changed the fll pathing mode to ground) |
| 18:43.17 | Obatztrara | fly* |
| 18:43.49 | A1win | do we have anyone here who knows something about modeling? ;p |
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| 18:46.19 | Skizot | maybe |
| 18:47.45 | A1win | just need a similar wall model you made for Helral's map, just without textures on the inside surfaces of the wall :P and two versions of it.. one like this: | | and one like this: |_| (viewed from top) |
| 18:48.18 | A1win | and only need the walls, not the roof for them |
| 18:49.30 | A1win | so basically one wall that only has 2 sides visible and one that has 3 :x |
| 18:50.57 | Helral | hey Skizot ;p |
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| 18:58.15 | A1win | hmm maybe I could just use the Box shape model for my test walls :P |
| 18:58.33 | A1win | except that it has walls iside it too... |
| 18:58.37 | A1win | isn't there a cube shape? |
| 18:59.09 | A1win | rounded cube at least... |
| 18:59.13 | Skizot | ummm all models are two sided. |
| 18:59.18 | Skizot | that's your issue :P |
| 18:59.24 | Skizot | that's why we put a top on them. |
| 18:59.30 | A1win | uh? |
| 18:59.37 | A1win | no they aren't o: |
| 18:59.49 | Skizot | well all the ones i have made are :P |
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| 18:59.53 | A1win | hehe |
| 18:59.55 | Skizot | and quite a few of blizzards too |
| 19:00.24 | A1win | oh there is Cube model too |
| 19:01.43 | Helral | meows |
| 19:02.34 | A1win | glowing walls... :x |
| 19:03.21 | A1win | the cube model at least doesn't have textures on the inside surfaces |
| 19:03.57 | A1win | but it still has them on all 4 sides so my camera sees the walls of the cube nest to the wall it's inside of :x |
| 19:06.18 | A1win | err... is there a way to add 0.5 of unpathable area around the 1x1 unpathable/block los pathing footprint? |
| 19:06.44 | A1win | ah I can make footprints, neat ;p |
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| 19:09.01 | A1win | umm how do I add LOS block to the footprint |
| 19:11.19 | A1win | found it |
| 19:15.35 | A1win | not sure how this works though, seems like it resets it after I've edited it x.x |
| 19:23.55 | Vail | i know i asked earlier but any one here good with actionscript 3.0? |
| 19:24.10 | Vail | its off topic i know but its related outside... |
| 19:28.10 | A1win | can't get my custom footprint to do anything :| |
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| 19:30.33 | doite | Hey |
| 19:31.55 | A1win | err... actually I can't get any footprint to work for this unit anymore O_o |
| 19:32.40 | A1win | oh |
| 19:32.46 | A1win | I was placing the wrong unit >_> |
| 19:34.30 | A1win | well the custom one still isn't working |
| 19:35.27 | A1win | even if I copy it from a standard footprint |
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| 19:40.45 | Helral | A1win: what isn't working? |
| 19:43.07 | A1win | it loses its placement area in the editor at least |
| 19:44.04 | A1win | well now I got it working by modifying a standard footprint... |
| 19:45.34 | Helral | :P |
| 19:50.39 | A1win | I just wish I could get my follow unit group camera to not stutter when I set its distance to less than 1 |
| 19:50.46 | A1win | so I could get a proper fps mode as well ;p |
| 19:53.59 | Obatztrara | whats the maximum size of bank files these days? :s |
| 20:00.16 | Helral | large |
| 20:03.15 | Obatztrara | omgggg I just found a craaazy bug X_X |
| 20:03.20 | Obatztrara | feels gooooood. |
| 20:03.33 | Obatztrara | ah ok, thanks |
| 20:03.46 | Obatztrara | like 20-30 kilobyte banks are ok, right? |
| 20:04.02 | Helral | don't think that's a problem now... |
| 20:10.20 | Vail | i found something interesting withe raynors rail snipe and other heros |
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| 20:15.56 | doite | A1win |
| 20:16.04 | doite | Hows your TPM map going? |
| 20:16.39 | A1win | haven't done much with it recently but now I started turning it into a similar map as Helral's random dungeon generator, only in 3rd person view ;p |
| 20:16.58 | doite | Ah cool |
| 20:17.05 | doite | Like diablo? |
| 20:17.17 | doite | Everytime u play theres different map structures? |
| 20:17.21 | A1win | mm |
| 20:17.27 | doite | Wow thats amazing |
| 20:17.29 | A1win | it won't look too pretty though :P |
| 20:17.36 | A1win | since all walls need to be made using units with a model |
| 20:17.47 | doite | Have u maOfc |
| 20:17.48 | A1win | maybe if someone make some nice wall models for me then it can be decent |
| 20:17.49 | doite | Ofc |
| 20:17.59 | doite | Have u made a unit jumping yet? |
| 20:18.08 | A1win | nope.. don't think I'll need it |
| 20:18.12 | doite | DAMMIT! |
| 20:18.15 | doite | A1win! |
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| 20:18.40 | doite | Im just waiting for someone to do it so they can send map |
| 20:18.52 | doite | I think i know how, but i really have no energy for it |
| 20:18.57 | Vail | well its cool none the less |
| 20:19.32 | A1win | what do I need to do to make my unit able to shoot at ground |
| 20:19.42 | doite | Point / unit |
| 20:19.44 | doite | Target |
| 20:19.54 | doite | Its often only unit |
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| 20:22.35 | Stewox | point |
| 20:22.40 | Stewox | set it at required |
| 20:23.06 | Stewox | i got everything allowed and some excluded and it didn't work on ground |
| 20:23.34 | A1win | and umm... how do I get the unit to shoot at a 3D position in the world based on mouse click instead of just a 2D point :E |
| 20:23.42 | Stewox | i think it was a bug , it said it need to target structures but structures were allowed not required |
| 20:24.41 | A1win | err... nevermind |
| 20:24.57 | A1win | the height at that point obviously is the same as where it will shoot at |
| 20:24.58 | Stewox | that cannot be done now i think , you mean AIM the turret with mouse , that's in the blizzcon2010 and will be included in future patches |
| 20:25.29 | Stewox | they have it a beta but i don't know if it's possible yet however blizzard already shown it in action |
| 20:26.58 | A1win | is there a way to get the unit I'm aiming at with the mouse? |
| 20:28.27 | doite | ? |
| 20:28.28 | doite | A1win |
| 20:28.31 | doite | What do u mean? |
| 20:28.48 | A1win | so that when I press mouse, it attacks that unit |
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| 20:29.32 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.34 | doite | As so? |
| 20:29.47 | A1win | how do I get TargetUnit then? ;p |
| 20:31.13 | doite | Sorry was writing to dryeyece |
| 20:32.39 | Dryeyece | youve got to set the effect launched by the ability to Target Unit /Point |
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| 20:32.44 | Ashamed | http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-seizes-bittorrent-search-engine-domain-and-more-101126/ |
| 20:32.45 | Ashamed | oh no |
| 20:32.46 | doite | Targetunit is a nopoint varaible |
| 20:32.47 | Dryeyece | or weapon either one |
| 20:32.49 | doite | array 2 |
| 20:32.58 | doite | And target point is a nopoint |
| 20:33.00 | Ashamed | i am litterally "this close" to moving to europe |
| 20:33.00 | Dryeyece | ohh your talking triggers lol nvm |
| 20:33.04 | doite | array 2 (depending on players ofc) |
| 20:33.05 | Dryeyece | ignore me lol |
| 20:33.07 | doite | What u need to do |
| 20:33.12 | doite | Is to set enemy hight |
| 20:33.20 | doite | Else u wont beable to Shoot em |
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| 20:33.38 | Barrin | much luv~~ |
| 20:33.52 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.53 | doite | Then |
| 20:33.53 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:34.44 | A1win | yea but how do I get the unit my mouse is pointing at into a variable ;p |
| 20:35.37 | A1win | Unit Is Highlighted only works when the mouse look isn't active |
| 20:37.08 | PointBlank | anyone here good with publishing bugs? |
| 20:37.21 | PointBlank | i read sixen's post on http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/189279023#1 |
| 20:37.48 | PointBlank | he mentions the Document dependency header file is not available: Teams ## (Mod). but the fix doesn't do anything for me |
| 20:38.00 | Sixen | what's the bug? |
| 20:38.09 | PointBlank | i need to figure out how the hell to get rid of the Teams ## (Mod) |
| 20:38.12 | Sixen | Hai Barrin! |
| 20:38.16 | Sixen | oh |
| 20:38.29 | PointBlank | as i have too many dependencies due to it |
| 20:38.43 | Sixen | you reset both basic and advanced? |
| 20:38.53 | PointBlank | this is my map from beta, dunno if converting into the new editor affects it at all |
| 20:38.56 | Sixen | Aha |
| 20:38.59 | PointBlank | yup infact have never touched them |
| 20:39.00 | Sixen | That was going to be my next question |
| 20:39.14 | PointBlank | so could ibe the beta thing? |
| 20:39.21 | Sixen | I'm 99% positive it is. |
| 20:39.29 | PointBlank | so what do ppl do usually? |
| 20:39.32 | doite | http://pastebin.com/fFpbipHH |
| 20:39.55 | Sixen | Want to do me a favor? Upload your map to the "Broken Maps" category on Mapster so I can pass it on to the GalaxyEdit guys? |
| 20:40.21 | Sixen | It might not fix your problem NOW, but it'd let me help them see there's a problem between Beta -> Live |
| 20:40.27 | Sixen | ... and then they can fix it. |
| 20:40.49 | A1win | uh... weird traceline function in that TPS engine in your map doite ;x |
| 20:40.57 | A1win | well not weird but.. not very elegant |
| 20:41.19 | A1win | it basically checks at every 0.1 units towards the camera and if there's a unit there, it sets it as the target |
| 20:41.24 | PointBlank | meh that's fine, the map has worked since beta, the only change i made was include all the campaign dependencies and start using those units ... been patient enough to not have it for the last few months :P |
| 20:41.45 | Sixen | Yeah, but you can't publish? |
| 20:41.48 | PointBlank | do u want a link or anything? or just upload |
| 20:41.53 | A1win | dunno if I want shooting though... maybe I should make melee combat or something |
| 20:41.56 | Sixen | Oh, OK, ;) |
| 20:41.57 | PointBlank | lol meant that's fine as in not having fixed NOW |
| 20:42.01 | Sixen | Yeah, I got it :D |
| 20:42.08 | Sixen | Just upload it, i'll see it when it goes into the approval queue |
| 20:42.38 | Sixen | I'll try to get something for you ASAP, but they've been a little behind because of the holidays |
| 20:42.56 | doite | K a1win |
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| 20:43.25 | A1win | doite, it's probably the only way to do it though ;p |
| 20:43.32 | PointBlank | coolio |
| 20:43.48 | Barrin | hi sixen~ :):) |
| 20:43.49 | Sixen | =] |
| 20:43.51 | Sixen | [= |
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| 20:44.15 | doite | I really need someone from europe to test my map |
| 20:44.21 | doite | Need to record and make a movie |
| 20:44.25 | Barrin | my new favorite channel to idle in while I make maps~~~ |
| 20:45.27 | Barrin | im so bad at UMS type maps though... havent touched triggers and only touched a few places in the data editor |
| 20:45.39 | Barrin | doesnt seem like many ppl in here need my type of knowledge lol |
| 20:46.13 | Barrin | i expected as much tho so ^_^ |
| 20:47.17 | Vail | odd the shredder grenade and the rail gun snipe but instanly ko enemy heros BUT dont do any damage |
| 20:47.36 | Vail | both not but |
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| 20:52.36 | doite | Someone from Europe kind enough to try my map? |
| 20:53.15 | Obatztrara | sure |
| 20:53.24 | Obatztrara | give me 5 minutes though |
| 20:53.34 | doite | Thanks man |
| 20:53.38 | doite | Sure |
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| 21:00.21 | PointBlank | here you go Sixen: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/random-squad-war/ |
| 21:01.21 | doite | Ok Obatztrara |
| 21:01.23 | A1win | oooh kerrigan also has a crouching animation (morph) |
| 21:01.24 | doite | Ready when u are |
| 21:01.30 | PointBlank | btw Sixen this is the map I made back during beta where I first came on here :P ... you may remember me as "pom.pom" |
| 21:01.39 | Obatztrara | Sorry |
| 21:01.46 | Obatztrara | Im ready..Ill be ingame in aminute |
| 21:01.50 | doite | Np =) |
| 21:01.51 | doite | K |
| 21:01.51 | A1win | woah this will make an awesome character for this map O: |
| 21:02.00 | A1win | variations in attack animation ftw |
| 21:02.43 | A1win | would be nice if she had a run animation though |
| 21:04.33 | Vail | who? |
| 21:05.34 | A1win | kerrigan |
| 21:06.56 | Stewox | wait a1win i'll show you |
| 21:08.20 | Ashamed | just reconized someone here.. but couldn't remeber her name " I just walked past her as she smiled at me " lol |
| 21:08.32 | Ashamed | I remeber her name now! |
| 21:09.49 | Megalon | is it "inflatable you" |
| 21:12.58 | Dekar- | is it kerrigan? |
| 21:19.42 | A1win | ahhh finally figured out how to get camera height ;p |
| 21:19.44 | A1win | I think... |
| 21:19.52 | A1win | Height Of Point(Camera target for player) |
| 21:20.41 | A1win | or maybe not :P |
| 21:21.45 | A1win | pff it's 0 no matter what the offset is |
| 21:22.30 | nevjmac | would that not be the point where the camera is looking at? |
| 21:22.43 | A1win | yeah... |
| 21:22.53 | nevjmac | I know you probably don't wanna |
| 21:22.56 | A1win | oh right it just returs 2D point |
| 21:23.06 | nevjmac | but yo ucould use trigonomety to figure out height of camera |
| 21:23.16 | A1win | how? ;p |
| 21:23.28 | nevjmac | you have never used pythagoras? |
| 21:23.38 | A1win | I know what trigonometry is :P |
| 21:23.47 | A1win | I'm not trying to find out the height where the camera object is |
| 21:23.59 | A1win | I want the Z offset of the camera target |
| 21:24.16 | A1win | of the player's current camera |
| 21:24.16 | nevjmac | ah right I dunno all the terms in camera, z offset would be? |
| 21:24.28 | A1win | the height from the target :P |
| 21:24.51 | A1win | so the higher the Z offset is, the higher the camera is |
| 21:25.05 | nevjmac | ok |
| 21:25.11 | nevjmac | and you want to be able to figure that out? |
| 21:25.11 | A1win | I can get the height offset of the default game camera but the player can change it by zooming |
| 21:25.15 | A1win | mm... |
| 21:25.32 | nevjmac | zooming lifts the camera up? |
| 21:25.36 | A1win | and I can't get the zoom level of a player's camera either |
| 21:25.44 | A1win | yeah well :P it's not actually zooming |
| 21:25.53 | A1win | but using mousewheel changes camera height |
| 21:26.09 | nevjmac | I thought it just changes angle and distance |
| 21:26.10 | A1win | since I can't really do zooming in this map, I figured I'd use it for something :P |
| 21:26.15 | A1win | yea by default |
| 21:26.16 | nevjmac | oh right |
| 21:26.18 | A1win | it can be changed |
| 21:26.23 | nevjmac | hmmmk |
| 21:26.27 | nevjmac | let me think on it for a bit |
| 21:28.02 | A1win | hmm |
| 21:28.02 | nevjmac | your camera has a default height? |
| 21:28.23 | A1win | the height changes from 0.4 to 0.8 by using mouse wheel |
| 21:28.29 | nevjmac | can you use a trigger to count mousewheel clicks? |
| 21:28.34 | A1win | nope |
| 21:28.37 | nevjmac | :/ |
| 21:28.47 | A1win | I'd have done it using that if it was possible |
| 21:28.47 | nevjmac | your making your life difficult then :P |
| 21:28.50 | A1win | hehe |
| 21:29.09 | Helral | you can set zoomlevels for the camera in the data editor. |
| 21:29.17 | A1win | Helral, yea that's what I did |
| 21:29.26 | A1win | Helral, but now I want to get the current zoom level in a trigger :P |
| 21:29.33 | Stewox | im still doing it a1win .... 10 mins and you'll see |
| 21:29.33 | nevjmac | what for? |
| 21:29.38 | A1win | so I know how I should adjust camera z offset when my unit crouches |
| 21:29.39 | Helral | well just retrieve the camera distance. |
| 21:29.40 | A1win | ;x |
| 21:29.50 | Helral | or whatever it's called. |
| 21:29.53 | A1win | I know what the camera distance is (1) |
| 21:29.57 | Helral | camera object property ;) |
| 21:30.00 | A1win | but that's not height offset |
| 21:30.04 | A1win | that doesn't work |
| 21:30.11 | A1win | it returns the default value of that camera object |
| 21:30.13 | A1win | not the current one |
| 21:30.50 | A1win | there are functions to get current camera yaw, pitch and target point |
| 21:30.52 | A1win | but nothing else x\ |
| 21:31.01 | nevjmac | if your values are 0.4 and 0.8 then won't your calculation be the same regardless |
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| 21:31.24 | A1win | I can only set the height, not add |
| 21:31.47 | A1win | set camera height offset = 0.4 |
| 21:32.00 | A1win | I want set camera height offset = current offset + 0.4 |
| 21:32.03 | Helral | doite: Obatztrara is back ingame. |
| 21:32.03 | nevjmac | ok can you store teh current heigh offset in a variable or the camera setting in a variable |
| 21:32.19 | Helral | hmmm |
| 21:32.20 | A1win | that's the problem ;p |
| 21:32.27 | A1win | I can't figure out how to get it to a variable |
| 21:32.33 | nevjmac | save camera? |
| 21:32.48 | A1win | that saves everything |
| 21:32.52 | A1win | not just one property :P |
| 21:32.52 | nevjmac | so? |
| 21:33.05 | A1win | if I restore it, all the other settings will revert too |
| 21:33.19 | A1win | I guess I'll just disable the zooming =p |
| 21:33.28 | Helral | camera moves event doesn't help? |
| 21:33.29 | A1win | to make my life easier :P |
| 21:33.30 | nevjmac | more settings are going to change? |
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| 21:33.43 | nevjmac | your only giving us half the story XD |
| 21:33.55 | A1win | the user can rotate the camera using the mouse all the time |
| 21:34.07 | A1win | and use mouse wheel to scroll height |
| 21:34.12 | A1win | that's all he can do to the camera |
| 21:34.18 | A1win | hmm |
| 21:34.20 | nevjmac | right, and if he crouches you need to drop the height right |
| 21:34.26 | A1win | so I can save the camera |
| 21:34.32 | A1win | and save current yaw and pitch |
| 21:34.35 | A1win | then restore camera |
| 21:34.38 | A1win | and apply those yaw and pitch =p |
| 21:34.43 | nevjmac | ;) |
| 21:34.46 | nevjmac | leave you to it |
| 21:34.49 | A1win | hehe |
| 21:34.58 | nevjmac | brb |
| 21:36.33 | A1win | argh, but the user can still use zoom while he's crouched :P |
| 21:36.41 | A1win | so it'll mess it up |
| 21:37.27 | A1win | maybe I'll just make it so that you can hold some button to get a "full view" of your character |
| 21:37.44 | A1win | normally the camera is overhead (height 0.8) and when I set height to 0.4, the character fits to the screen completely |
| 21:53.40 | nevjmac | disable zooming whislt crouched! |
| 21:53.47 | A1win | how? :S |
| 21:54.01 | nevjmac | I dunno hadn't thought that far :P |
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| 22:10.27 | A1win | is there a way to play kerrigan's attack animations separately? Variation 01 is the "secondary attack" she does with wings but I can't find an animation where she only does the normal strike animation |
| 22:10.39 | A1win | the "Attack" animation varies between those |
| 22:14.17 | A1win | Stewox, maybe you know? D: |
| 22:15.25 | A1win | hmm does actor define those |
| 22:18.52 | doite | A1win |
| 22:19.02 | doite | A normal attack should just be attack |
| 22:19.07 | doite | with no variation |
| 22:19.11 | A1win | well it isn't :P |
| 22:19.18 | doite | .. really? |
| 22:19.21 | doite | Let me check |
| 22:19.21 | A1win | for kerrigan |
| 22:19.31 | Helral | doite you got out? |
| 22:19.34 | A1win | it randomizes between 2 animations |
| 22:20.00 | doite | I got someone writing to me on skype |
| 22:20.33 | doite | and now its lagging to much so i cant get back n |
| 22:20.38 | doite | in |
| 22:24.37 | doite | Wow |
| 22:24.47 | doite | that game really crashed my hole system |
| 22:24.54 | doite | Now it froze |
| 22:24.56 | doite | Helral |
| 22:25.02 | doite | Can u tell the guys it froze for me? |
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| 22:27.44 | Obatztrara | yo doite what happened? :s |
| 22:27.53 | doite | It just frozer |
| 22:27.55 | doite | froze |
| 22:28.03 | doite | I dont get it |
| 22:28.05 | Obatztrara | weird, that doesnt happen too often... |
| 22:28.13 | doite | I have a really god computer |
| 22:28.19 | doite | And it never lags |
| 22:28.21 | Obatztrara | Im sorry for not paying too much attention, we we're kidding around ^^ |
| 22:28.23 | doite | But that game killed me |
| 22:28.28 | Obatztrara | hmm |
| 22:28.33 | Obatztrara | it is quite a huge map |
| 22:28.40 | Obatztrara | and dwarf is using a shitload of doodads |
| 22:28.51 | doite | Maybe i should lower to medium graphic lightning |
| 22:29.07 | Vail | an odd thing is Triggers slow my pc down ... |
| 22:33.24 | Helral | meows |
| 22:34.38 | A1win | woo melee attacks soon done 8) |
| 22:35.40 | A1win | just need to allow turning around with keyboard while attacking, mouse turning already works |
| 22:36.58 | A1win | ...and there's no damage effects yet |
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| 22:44.55 | doite | Whats a good program (easy) to make a video |
| 22:45.15 | doite | Sure i used sony .. something studio 8 before |
| 22:45.18 | Helral | what kind of video? ingame or outgame? |
| 22:45.24 | doite | Ingame |
| 22:45.31 | doite | Not to record |
| 22:45.36 | doite | I use fraps for that |
| 22:45.40 | Helral | hmmmm? |
| 22:45.50 | Helral | to convert? |
| 22:45.50 | doite | To make the video |
| 22:45.57 | doite | Well to add effects |
| 22:46.03 | Helral | ahhh no idea ;p |
| 22:46.05 | doite | Cut scennce |
| 22:46.08 | doite | Stuff |
| 22:46.09 | doite | K |
| 22:46.16 | Helral | I never added much effects, I actually used windows movie maker ;p |
| 22:46.33 | doite | Where do i find that |
| 22:46.36 | doite | I searched for it |
| 22:46.43 | doite | Do they still have it in win 8? |
| 22:46.46 | doite | win 7 |
| 22:47.04 | A1win | VirtualDub is nice for converting and stuff, not that much for special effects |
| 22:47.09 | A1win | it's also free |
| 22:47.49 | Helral | doite: http://explore.live.com/windows-live-essentials?os=other |
| 22:47.49 | doite | "Windows Movie Maker has been in every version of Windows since Me... XP and Vista... but it's not in Windows 7. W Read more: http://www.brighthub.com/multimedia/video/articles/22658.aspx#ixzz16iM7waNo" |
| 22:48.25 | doite | Thats essential |
| 22:48.27 | doite | is the movie? |
| 22:48.29 | doite | maker |
| 22:48.46 | Helral | it is messenger, photo gallery, movie maker and mail |
| 22:48.54 | Helral | you can prolly limit it to just one of those when installing. |
| 22:48.59 | doite | Thanks man |
| 22:50.22 | Helral | well I'm off cya |
| 22:57.11 | Stewox | a1win still here |
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| 23:11.17 | Barrin | bwauhauhuhuhauha i just catalogued all the textures with similar/identical bump maps |
| 23:11.32 | Barrin | and unique ones of course |
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| 23:46.37 | Vail | hello every body "hi dr nick": |
| 23:46.55 | Vail | maybe its hi everybody eh well |
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| 23:58.11 | Vail | hmm i need to decide on atributes for my heros |
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