IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20101121

`00:00.33`	`Doom`	`lollipoper`
`00:00.39`	`nolliepoper`	`you like he idea`
`00:00.53`	`Doom`	`can u give me a day? and yess i do`
`00:01.02`	`nolliepoper`	`a day for what?`
`00:01.23`	`Doom`	`to figure out which would be best for ur map`
`00:01.36`	`nolliepoper`	`I already know what is best.`
`00:02.28`	`nolliepoper`	`one button is execute last target`
`00:02.52`	`Doom`	`hmm`
`00:03.01`	`Doom`	`well`
`00:03.16`	`Doom`	`what confuses me is that i cant make a new target`
`00:03.35`	`nolliepoper`	`yes click the unit and it sets last target`
`00:03.46`	`Doom`	`k`
`00:04.09`	`Doom`	`well what u were tryn to do has already been done`
`00:04.16`	`Doom`	`the templar`
`00:04.20`	`Doom`	`is not moveing`
`00:04.24`	`Doom`	`to the spells`
`00:04.32`	`Doom`	`and is barly moveing at all`
`00:04.33`	`Doom`	`xD`
`00:04.51`	`nolliepoper`	`?`
`00:05.08`	`*** part/#sc2mapster DiNoo (Dino@AMontpellier-158-1-75-139.w90-41.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`00:05.20`	`Doom`	`so what your tryn to do is to make nothing gappen if the taregt is out of range?`
`00:05.24`	`nolliepoper`	`you can see the custom health bars I was working on.`
`00:05.25`	`Doom`	`happen*`
`00:05.30`	`Doom`	`yess`
`00:05.35`	`Doom`	`ur doing great`
`00:05.41`	`Doom`	`im impressed`
`00:05.51`	`nolliepoper`	`yeah bro I will prolly end up just doing it through triggers`
`00:06.18`	`Doom`	`i looked at the actors and saw something that opened my eyes`
`00:06.30`	`Doom`	`ur very good with actors`
`00:06.43`	`nolliepoper`	`not really at all`
`00:06.54`	`Doom`	`yess u are`
`00:07.02`	`Doom`	`youve worked hard on this map`
`00:08.01`	`nolliepoper`	`I duplicated the templar and only made one custom spell which is unfinnished.`
`00:08.16`	`Doom`	`im am majorly inpress`
`00:08.17`	`nolliepoper`	`the hard work is learning a little bit about models and actors`
`00:08.17`	`Doom`	`ed`
`00:08.40`	`Doom`	`now lisinin to you and playing round 2`
`00:08.59`	`nolliepoper`	`it will be fun when I finnish but right now I need to get the game mechanics down.`
`00:09.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Jygga (ordog@unaffiliated/jygga)`
`00:09.06`	`Doom`	`i sugesst that u add a a Queae effect`
`00:09.13`	`Doom`	`so u can stack the bolts`
`00:09.26`	`Doom`	`at the cost of energy`
`00:09.40`	`nolliepoper`	`it will cast 20 mana but. no queues`
`00:09.54`	`Doom`	`so no stacking bolts?`
`00:09.58`	`Doom`	`xD`
`00:10.07`	`nolliepoper`	`I need help with some behaviors to apply`
`00:10.14`	`Doom`	`ok`
`00:10.26`	`Doom`	`have u made the behaviors?`
`00:10.29`	`Doom`	`or`
`00:10.41`	`Doom`	`can i make um`
`00:10.43`	`Doom`	`?`
`00:10.57`	`Doom`	`i wanna make 1 called Stun`
`00:11.02`	`Doom`	`for the bolt`
`00:11.10`	`Doom`	`2 sec stun`
`00:11.12`	`Doom`	`xD`
`00:11.30`	`nolliepoper`	`no stun will take 25 stamina to do and 50% chance.`
`00:11.37`	`Doom`	`xD`
`00:11.42`	`nolliepoper`	`I plan on using hp, mana and stamina`
`00:11.43`	`Doom`	`thats the spirit`
`00:11.50`	`nolliepoper`	`only 15`
`00:11.55`	`Doom`	`mana could be`
`00:11.58`	`Doom`	`shields`
`00:11.59`	`Doom`	`xd`
`00:12.00`	`Doom`	`xD`
`00:12.23`	`nolliepoper`	`well do you want to help fix the ebolt.`
`00:12.33`	`Doom`	`sure`
`00:12.37`	`Doom`	`ill do as u say`
`00:12.46`	`Doom`	`ima help every 1 here`
`00:12.58`	`Doom`	`if it involes the data editor`
`00:13.00`	`Doom`	`xD`
`00:13.16`	`nolliepoper`	`once a spell is casted I need to apply a behavior that will not allow you to cast another spell.`
`00:13.35`	`nolliepoper`	`but you can still use the last target ability.`
`00:14.37`	`Doom`	`kk`
`00:14.43`	`Doom`	`it shal be done`
`00:16.03`	`nolliepoper`	`do you have a mic?`
`00:16.10`	`nolliepoper`	`you saying wierd things.`
`00:16.16`	`Doom`	`yess`
`00:16.18`	`Doom`	`i do`
`00:16.19`	`Doom`	`xD`
`00:16.37`	`nolliepoper`	`do you use the mapster vent?`
`00:16.52`	`Doom`	`whats that?`
`00:17.43`	`nolliepoper`	`sc2mapster has a ventrilo server like the irc here.`
`00:17.52`	`nolliepoper`	`vent2.gameservers.com`
`00:17.56`	`nolliepoper`	`4220`
`00:19.26`	`Doom`	`wont load`
`00:19.29`	`Doom`	`the page`
`00:19.30`	`Doom`	`xd`
`00:19.31`	`Doom`	`xD`
`00:19.39`	`nolliepoper`	`no`
`00:19.48`	`nolliepoper`	`do you have ventrilo downloaded?`
`00:20.09`	`Doom`	`no`
`00:20.09`	`Doom`	`xD`
`00:20.11`	`nolliepoper`	`that is the server and port`
`00:20.18`	`nolliepoper`	`well idk if you want to dl it`
`00:20.35`	`nolliepoper`	`but it is a chatroom I guess with your mic though.`
`00:20.51`	`Doom`	`oh`
`00:20.53`	`Doom`	`but`
`00:21.03`	`Doom`	`to many people talking at 1 time`
`00:21.04`	`Doom`	`xD`
`00:21.23`	`nolliepoper`	`there is many channels in the vent and only 6 people`
`00:21.29`	`nolliepoper`	`no one is in my channel`
`00:21.45`	`nolliepoper`	`admin came in a bit ago but left.`
`00:28.45`	`Doom`	`lol`
`00:29.03`	`Doom`	`is ventilo free`
`00:29.05`	`Doom`	`>???`
`00:29.30`	`nolliepoper`	`yes`
`00:29.36`	`nolliepoper`	`do you want to use it?`
`00:39.53`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RaydenUni (~rayden@adsl-69-231-125-178.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net)`
`00:52.37`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tordy (Tordy@pool-98-116-89-31.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)`
`00:52.55`	`Tordy`	`so anyway`
`00:53.19`	`JManV`	`haha! that's a lot of fun`
`00:55.06`	`Tordy`	`when are the blizzard maps coming out again>`
`00:55.39`	*** join/#sc2mapster Griffith`` (~Zeta@CPE002191074172-CM0013718d3546.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
`00:58.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Azoth (got_Ammo@dynamic2-251-032.usc.edu)`
`01:00.56`	`Lilianna`	`Woo, overseer mostly done, now to play with movers!`
`01:01.57`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys)`
`01:03.37`	`Tordy`	`when are the blizzard maps coming out again>`
`01:06.25`	`Lilianna`	`When they are ready(tm)`
`01:15.31`	`Tordy`	`hi`
`01:15.58`	`Acemore`	`hey`
`01:16.01`	`Acemore`	`sup :)`
`01:17.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ThunderLord (46fdcc82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.253.204.130)`
`01:17.59`	`doite`	`Guys`
`01:18.02`	`Tordy`	`hi doite`
`01:18.03`	`doite`	`Somethings wrong :/`
`01:18.06`	`doite`	`Hey tordy`
`01:18.30`	`doite`	`My Hp bar goes from 200 (full bar) to the damage that is taken but the bars goes 1/4 of the bar`
`01:18.31`	`doite`	`http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1563/screenshot2010112102155.jpg`
`01:18.41`	`doite`	`Then the hit after it goes in normal speed again`
`01:18.46`	`doite`	`What could i have done wrong?`
`01:19.04`	`doite`	`Ignore the left one`
`01:20.21`	`doite`	`mabye...`
`01:20.55`	`*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210)`
`01:22.02`	`doite`	`Ofc`
`01:22.04`	`doite`	`Fixed`
`01:22.11`	`doite`	`http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1563/screenshot2010112102155.jpg`
`01:22.15`	`doite`	`Well the second issue`
`01:22.26`	`doite`	`Is that i would like the bar UNDER the helth bar (blue one)`
`01:22.28`	`doite`	`to be ammo`
`01:22.38`	`doite`	`And go down with the amount of ammo left`
`01:22.48`	`doite`	`Is that possible as a bar?`
`01:24.03`	`doite`	`=)`
`01:32.51`	`ThunderLord`	`just wondering, is it possible to bind the left mouse button to a smart command?`
`01:34.44`	`JManV`	`i made immortal soccer in about an hour or two :)_`
`01:34.47`	`JManV`	`it's super fun!`
`01:35.12`	`doite`	`Is it possible to make an action to se the current value of a variable?`
`01:37.04`	`doite`	`Becouse what i want, as the image shows, i want to make the bar.. then resize it down by variables`
`01:37.27`	`doite`	`So if variable is 10 and the maximum mount of ammo is 30`
`01:37.41`	`doite`	`it will be 30-current value of variable`
`01:37.49`	`doite`	`Possible?`
`01:46.55`	`Matt438`	`If I understand it right, you want like a boss bar with 2 variables as current and max values?`
`01:47.12`	`Tordy`	`BOOBIES`
`01:47.25`	`Matt438`	`Yes, and boobies`
`01:49.48`	`doite`	`Well`
`01:49.55`	`doite`	`Yea iguess`
`01:49.56`	`doite`	`Yea`
`01:50.02`	`doite`	`Well max value is not needed`
`01:50.12`	`doite`	`Actually i just want (if u se picture`
`01:50.16`	`doite`	`To the right down`
`01:50.20`	`doite`	`I have a green bar`
`01:50.24`	`doite`	`Then under i have a blue bar`
`01:50.27`	`doite`	`Thats "ammo"`
`01:50.35`	`doite`	`I want that to shrink when shooting`
`01:50.52`	`doite`	`And i cant figure a way to do it,, since its not unit properties`
`01:51.26`	`doite`	`Then when reloaded the variables goes back up = bar goes up`
`01:52.28`	`doite`	`i Actually allready have a variable`
`01:52.28`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:53.55`	`A1win`	`just add an action after that to change the bar size based on the variable`
`01:54.33`	`doite`	`Yea`
`01:54.38`	`doite`	`But what is that action?`
`01:54.42`	`doite`	`I mean sure`
`01:54.43`	`A1win`	`what is the bar?`
`01:54.46`	`doite`	`Set size`
`01:54.49`	`doite`	`But the funktion`
`01:55.09`	`doite`	`What is the bar?`
`01:55.27`	`A1win`	`how have you created it`
`01:55.28`	`doite`	`image`
`01:55.35`	`doite`	`dialog`
`01:55.36`	`doite`	`image`
`01:55.39`	`doite`	`Just like health one`
`01:55.59`	`A1win`	`so you know how to change its size or not?`
`01:56.04`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:56.08`	`doite`	`Thats for health`
`01:56.14`	`doite`	`Well yea`
`01:56.17`	`doite`	`But not with variables`
`01:56.28`	`A1win`	`._x`
`01:56.41`	`A1win`	`you can just choose the variable to the size`
`01:57.06`	`doite`	`Yea ok`
`01:57.09`	`doite`	`But what funktion`
`01:57.15`	`A1win`	`set width to current ammo / max ammo * bar max width`
`01:57.16`	`doite`	`I cant just click text then variable`
`01:57.47`	`Matt438`	`does it update as the variable changes?`
`01:58.03`	`Tordy`	`right back`
`01:58.05`	`Tordy`	`chyea bvoy`
`01:58.06`	`doite`	`Yea`
`01:58.18`	`doite`	`Ok..`
`01:58.21`	`doite`	`Current ammo`
`01:58.29`	`doite`	`hmm`
`01:58.30`	`doite`	`ill check`
`01:58.33`	`doite`	`one sec`
`01:58.52`	`doite`	`Or wait..`
`01:58.55`	`doite`	`Or..`
`01:58.57`	`doite`	`Hmm`
`01:59.22`	`doite`	`yea ok`
`01:59.23`	`Tordy`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:00.12`	`*** join/#sc2mapster egod (459d8830@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.157.136.48)`
`02:00.22`	`egod`	`HAHAHAHAHAHAH blizz fail`
`02:00.38`	`egod`	`i reached triggers limit, cant continue my project`
`02:00.42`	`egod`	`fuk them`
`02:01.21`	`egod`	`http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/images/27/990/FAIL_LIMIT_EDITOR.jpg`
`02:02.52`	`Jum-Jum`	`I dont see where it says you have too many triggers`
`02:03.10`	`Jum-Jum`	`thats a lot of triggers`
`02:03.12`	`Acemore`	`me neither`
`02:03.12`	`Jum-Jum`	`:]`
`02:03.13`	`Acemore`	`yea`
`02:03.14`	`Acemore`	`lol`
`02:03.33`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:03.39`	`Acemore`	`and if there's a limit to triggers, maybe you can move code into functions?`
`02:03.53`	`doite`	How to i make the (+(value)) a value / value?`
`02:04.08`	`A1win`	`why do your operations look so backwards x_x`
`02:04.25`	`doite`	`I didnt do it on pupose`
`02:04.26`	`doite`	`=(`
`02:04.46`	`doite`	`It just did that by it self`
`02:04.48`	`Acemore`	`arithmetic?`
`02:04.52`	`doite`	`Multiple`
`02:04.53`	`doite`	`yea`
`02:04.57`	`Acemore`	`yea`
`02:05.09`	`Acemore`	`so it's working or?`
`02:05.16`	`Acemore`	`not sure i understood the problem :P`
`02:05.56`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:06.01`	`doite`	`So that should be right?`
`02:06.23`	`doite`	`so now its...`
`02:06.31`	`A1win`	`why do you use "arithmetic (multiple)" inside on action?`
`02:06.42`	`A1win`	`or what the hell does that even do D:`
`02:06.42`	`doite`	`the max width/% of ammo*100`
`02:06.50`	`doite`	`Bi`
`02:06.51`	`doite`	`No`
`02:07.01`	`doite`	`Not anymore`
`02:07.01`	`Acemore`	`a1win let's you more easily set up math`
`02:07.03`	`doite`	`Ill try this`
`02:07.20`	`A1win`	`why does it make it look like that then :P`
`02:09.32`	`doite`	`Nope`
`02:09.47`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:10.03`	`A1win`	`I still can't understand what that does x\`
`02:10.20`	`doite`	`Well`
`02:10.24`	`doite`	`It does`
`02:11.34`	`A1win`	`is that "((current ammo / max ammo) * 300)/100)" or what?`
`02:11.43`	`doite`	`Set size: 300 (thats max) / (Current ammo (lets say 10)/(Maxammo(Lets say 10=so its 1))*100`
`02:11.47`	`doite`	`So if i shoot 0`
`02:11.51`	`doite`	`Its 300 in size`
`02:12.02`	`doite`	`If i start shooting the (Current ammo (lets say 10)/(Maxammo(L`
`02:12.03`	`doite`	`Lowers`
`02:12.08`	`doite`	`And it sizes`
`02:12.22`	`A1win`	`why do you divide the size by current ammo / max ammo`
`02:12.29`	`A1win`	`that'll just make it wider`
`02:12.31`	`doite`	`Well.`
`02:12.47`	`A1win`	`if you divide 300 by let's say 10/100, it'll make it 3000`
`02:12.47`	`doite`	`I can put max ammo / current becouse that will be greater then 1`
`02:12.51`	`doite`	`..`
`02:12.53`	`doite`	`Yea`
`02:12.55`	`doite`	`Thats true`
`02:12.56`	`doite`	`=)`
`02:13.01`	`doite`	`No..`
`02:13.03`	`doite`	`Yes`
`02:13.05`	`doite`	`=)`
`02:13.06`	`A1win`	`you need to use arithmetic (real)`
`02:13.12`	`A1win`	`to make it simpler :p`
`02:13.38`	`A1win`	`if you use integers, current ammo / max ammo will always be 0`
`02:13.54`	`doite`	`Well please teach me`
`02:13.56`	`doite`	`im really lost`
`02:14.00`	`doite`	`So what do i do..`
`02:14.00`	`A1win`	`because anything less than 1 but greater than 0 as an integer is 0`
`02:14.48`	`A1win`	`conversion - convert real to integer ( ((integer to real(current ammo) / integer to real(max ammo) ) * integer to real(bar max width))`
`02:15.11`	`doite`	`h,,`
`02:15.12`	`doite`	`hmm`
`02:15.14`	`doite`	`ok ill try`
`02:15.32`	`A1win`	`I'll go to sleep, bye`
`02:15.36`	`Acemore`	`doite`
`02:15.38`	`doite`	`!`
`02:15.43`	`Acemore`	`gn A1win`
`02:15.50`	`Acemore`	`what exactly did you want to do?`
`02:16.00`	`Acemore`	`you're making a bar which is supposed to display...`
`02:16.04`	`Acemore`	`your amount of ammo?`
`02:16.15`	`doite`	`yea`
`02:16.17`	`Acemore`	`the more ammo you have, the bigger the bar is?`
`02:16.23`	`doite`	`http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1563/screenshot2010112102155.jpg`
`02:16.29`	`doite`	`The rightone`
`02:16.32`	`doite`	`under hp`
`02:16.35`	`doite`	`its blue`
`02:16.51`	`Acemore`	`so you want to make the size smaller`
`02:16.54`	`Acemore`	`when you're low on ammo`
`02:18.21`	`doite`	`Yea i know`
`02:18.26`	`doite`	`i changed it`
`02:18.49`	`Acemore`	`set dialog item size : convert to int (( Max_Bar_Size * Max_Ammo ) / Current_Ammo )`
`02:19.05`	`Acemore`	`sorry`
`02:19.17`	`Acemore`	`set dialog item size : convert to int (( Max_Bar_Size * Current_Ammo ) / Max_Ammo )`
`02:19.19`	`Acemore`	`that's what i meant`
`02:19.21`	`Acemore`	`last one`
`02:21.49`	`doite`	`=(`
`02:21.58`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:22.01`	`doite`	`Where from there?`
`02:27.11`	`doite`	`Acemore`
`02:27.17`	`doite`	`Becouse here i cant add the variables`
`02:27.18`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:27.19`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DarkRevenant (~DarkReven@ip72-197-184-165.sd.sd.cox.net)`
`02:27.24`	`DarkRevenant`	`i love this thread`
`02:27.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/team-recruitment/14788-cruiser-command-type-map-i-need-a-team/#p4`
`02:28.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`if you ever wondered what ignorance is, here's your fucking definition by example`
`02:29.46`	`doite`	`?`
`02:30.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`look at the OP's response`
`02:31.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`all the world is a critic`
`02:31.38`	`doite`	`I think it was mean`
`02:31.47`	`*** join/#sc2mapster kaseano (~kaseano@ip98-160-252-240.lv.lv.cox.net)`
`02:31.52`	`doite`	`But it still doesnt help my stupid ammo bar`
`02:31.55`	`kaseano`	`any1 know where that flashlight in front of tychus came from`
`02:32.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`lol i'm not even mad`
`02:32.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`i personally just`
`02:32.28`	`DarkRevenant`	`kinda stood there`
`02:32.29`	`doite`	`Kaseano`
`02:32.30`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:32.33`	`DarkRevenant`	`and then started laughing`
`02:32.40`	`kaseano`	`alriiight :)`
`02:32.44`	`kaseano`	`thx doite`
`02:32.48`	`doite`	`Np`
`02:32.50`	`DarkRevenant`	`i hope the map is really shitty so i can review it later`
`02:33.00`	`DarkRevenant`	`(not yours, doite)`
`02:33.07`	`doite`	`=)`
`02:33.11`	`doite`	`Mine is going to rock`
`02:33.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`ammo bar?`
`02:33.21`	`doite`	`I just need to get this fuckin ammo bar working`
`02:33.21`	`doite`	`Yea`
`02:33.23`	`DarkRevenant`	`well i've got like 10 ammo bars`
`02:33.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`for every player`
`02:33.34`	`DarkRevenant`	`i.e. 140 ammo bars`
`02:33.37`	`doite`	`http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1563/screenshot2010112102155.jpg`
`02:33.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`what's wrong with that one`
`02:34.06`	`doite`	`well`
`02:34.12`	`doite`	`The health bar works..`
`02:34.16`	`doite`	`but im thinking out a way`
`02:34.26`	`doite`	`to work the resize of the ammo bar`
`02:34.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`well to be fair`
`02:34.37`	`DarkRevenant`	`my bars are just stretched images`
`02:34.40`	`doite`	`I mean ignore the left one`
`02:34.53`	`doite`	`So i have..`
`02:34.54`	`doite`	`Well`
`02:34.57`	`doite`	`What i want is`
`02:35.27`	`doite`	`Set size: 300 (thats max of bar) / max ammo / current ammo`
`02:35.38`	`doite`	`(max ammo / current ammo)`
`02:35.45`	`doite`	`But i dont know really how to do it`
`02:35.48`	`doite`	`Really anoying`
`02:36.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`max ammo`
`02:36.11`	`DarkRevenant`	`should be on the bottom`
`02:36.16`	`DarkRevenant`	`where'd you learn your math?`
`02:37.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`current/max should be a real from 0 to 1`
`02:37.09`	`DarkRevenant`	`multiply that real with 300.0`
`02:37.10`	`progammer`	`best way to make bar is tiled images`
`02:37.12`	`DarkRevenant`	`then convert that real to an integer`
`02:37.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`that's your size`
`02:37.24`	`doite`	`WELL I DID COVERT TO REAL`
`02:37.26`	`doite`	`sorry`
`02:37.27`	`doite`	`caps`
`02:37.43`	`doite`	`Dialog - Set Unit Bar Ammo size to ((Integer((Value 1 + 1.0))), 50) for (All players`
`02:38.00`	`DarkRevenant`	`also i dont have the luxury of tiled images`
`02:38.02`	`doite`	`But i cant add the variables of dialog items there`
`02:38.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`in my own project`
`02:38.11`	`DarkRevenant`	`because the interface size varies depending on screen resolution`
`02:38.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`aspect ratio`
`02:38.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`all that jazz`
`02:38.27`	`kaseano`	`doite this is kinda confusing actually :) the flashlight is a missile actor attached to a dummy unit`
`02:38.30`	`DarkRevenant`	`so i'll have to be careful with the images i make for them`
`02:38.47`	`kaseano`	`was your trigger creating the actor unit or model`
`02:39.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`also, progammer`
`02:39.14`	`DarkRevenant`	`which functions are synced with the network?`
`02:39.21`	`progammer`	`what function ?`
`02:39.29`	`progammer`	`the entire trigger has to be synched`
`02:39.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`i mean`
`02:39.47`	`DarkRevenant`	`what parts of it`
`02:39.55`	`DarkRevenant`	`does every single operation have to be synced?`
`02:39.58`	`doite`	`?`
`02:39.59`	`doite`	`Guys`
`02:40.04`	`doite`	`So as u se i have`
`02:40.04`	`kaseano`	`oh it's a behavior nvm`
`02:40.05`	`doite`	`Dialog - Set Unit Bar Ammo size to ((Integer((Value 1 + 1.0))), 50) for (All players`
`02:40.08`	`progammer`	`every calculations, events etc...`
`02:40.17`	`doite`	`The size of X is convert to real integer`
`02:40.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`every new variable (local or global), basically?`
`02:40.29`	`doite`	`But then i cant add any variables into that variable`
`02:40.30`	`DarkRevenant`	`variable value i mean`
`02:40.37`	`progammer`	`yes every variable`
`02:40.53`	`DarkRevenant`	`well then at least`
`02:41.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`there's nothing I can do to futher optimize my system`
`02:41.13`	`DarkRevenant`	`players start lagging out when we're still at max FPS`
`02:41.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`in wc3 i swear this level of complexity`
`02:41.24`	`DarkRevenant`	`had nowhere near as much lag`
`02:41.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`why is that?`
`02:41.39`	`progammer`	`what kind of lag ?`
`02:41.51`	`DarkRevenant`	`entire network`
`02:41.55`	`DarkRevenant`	`just`
`02:41.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`the whole game kinda pauses`
`02:42.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`the framerate is still 63 or whatever`
`02:42.06`	`doite`	`guys =(`
`02:42.07`	`doite`	`Dialog - Set Unit Bar Ammo size to ((Integer((Value 1 + 1.0))), 50) for (All players`
`02:42.10`	`DarkRevenant`	`but`
`02:42.17`	`progammer`	`i guess trigger lag`
`02:42.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`when lots of projectiles are in play`
`02:42.31`	`DarkRevenant`	`even if the projectile only lasts for a split second`
`02:42.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`but has many collision checks`
`02:42.51`	`DarkRevenant`	`the whole network, if the game is more than, say, 3 people`
`02:42.57`	`DarkRevenant`	`just suicides`
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`02:43.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`massive hiccup action`
`02:43.20`	`DarkRevenant`	`there's no lag screen because`
`02:43.24`	`DarkRevenant`	`everyone lags equally`
`02:43.34`	`DarkRevenant`	`now this is probably because the host is lagging it up`
`02:44.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`do private games get hosted by the local player`
`02:44.14`	`DarkRevenant`	`rather than blizz servers?`
`02:44.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`if so, it's just me`
`02:44.26`	`DarkRevenant`	`though my upload is pretty good`
`02:44.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`otherwise, battle.net is fucking me up`
`02:47.34`	`doite`	`DarkRevenant`
`02:47.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`yo`
`02:47.45`	`doite`	`Please can u help me with this`
`02:47.52`	`doite`	`ialog - Set Unit Bar Ammo size to ((Integer((Value 1 + 1.0))), 50) for (All players`
`02:48.01`	`doite`	`So thats the set item size action`
`02:48.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`what's value 1`
`02:48.28`	`doite`	`well value 1 SHOULD be a variable`
`02:48.31`	`doite`	`But i cant choose one`
`02:48.35`	`doite`	`Thats why im asking`
`02:48.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`maybe`
`02:48.38`	`DarkRevenant`	`that variable`
`02:48.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`is an integer`
`02:48.44`	`DarkRevenant`	`rather than a real`
`02:49.05`	`doite`	`Its a dialog item variable`
`02:49.11`	`doite`	`Oh so i make it real?`
`02:49.20`	`DarkRevenant`	`wait what`
`02:49.24`	`DarkRevenant`	`ugh you cant just`
`02:49.28`	`doite`	`Nono`
`02:49.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`plug in some random variable`
`02:49.32`	`doite`	`Sorry`
`02:49.37`	`doite`	`My bad`
`02:49.38`	`doite`	`Its not`
`02:49.43`	`doite`	`Its the current ammo i want ther`
`02:49.44`	`doite`	`e`
`02:49.47`	`doite`	`Its a integer yes`
`02:49.53`	`DarkRevenant`	`convert integer to real`
`02:49.58`	`doite`	`Ok`
`02:49.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`stick it in that Value 1 slot`
`02:50.12`	`doite`	`But i dont know why but still doesnt seem to work`
`02:50.14`	`doite`	`Ill try again`
`02:51.00`	`DarkRevenant`	`also`
`02:51.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`multiply by whatever`
`02:51.09`	`DarkRevenant`	`your size would be some small fucking`
`02:51.12`	`DarkRevenant`	`30 width thing`
`02:51.57`	`Lilianna`	`Oddd`
`02:52.02`	`Lilianna`	`my missles stopped exploding. :(`
`02:53.01`	`Matt438`	`wait, aren't dialog item sizes in integers, not reals?`
`02:53.29`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:53.30`	`doite`	`?`
`02:54.14`	`Matt438`	`Woah, that's a lot of brackets o_O`
`02:54.18`	`doite`	`=)`
`02:54.28`	`doite`	`What should i have as event?`
`02:54.33`	`Lilianna`	`ah fixed, yay!`
`02:54.39`	`doite`	`When player presses mouse left?`
`02:54.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`it should be`
`02:54.53`	`DarkRevenant`	`cur ammo divided my max ammo`
`02:55.00`	`DarkRevenant`	`and use a * operator between 300 and that`
`02:55.10`	`DarkRevenant`	`so you dont have a div/0 error`
`02:55.22`	`Matt438`	`The thing with the update is that it might update before the ammo is used the the variable changes`
`02:55.31`	Mephs`afk	`you people talk about map editing too much`
`02:55.36`	`Matt438`	`wait, no it wouldn't`
`02:55.37`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:55.41`	`Matt438`	`unless it were multithreaded`
`02:55.45`	`doite`	`Like that?`
`02:56.14`	`doite`	`wait..`
`02:56.26`	`DarkRevenant`	`anyone know if`
`02:56.31`	`DarkRevenant`	`private games are hosted by bnet`
`02:56.34`	`DarkRevenant`	`or by the "host"`
`02:56.40`	`doite`	`Now its 300/(max/cur)*100`
`02:56.46`	`Matt438`	`I'm fairly certain they're hosted by bnet`
`02:56.51`	`DarkRevenant`	`doite`
`02:56.54`	`doite`	`yo`
`02:56.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`you need 300*(cur/max)`
`02:57.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`so in other words`
`02:57.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`bnet has some terrible terrible fucking internet quality`
`02:57.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`such that my physics system`
`02:57.24`	`DarkRevenant`	`while virtually lagless in wc3`
`02:57.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`is unplayable in sc2`
`02:59.18`	`progammer_`	`it depends`
`02:59.30`	`doite`	`iT DOESNT FUCKIN WORKS`
`02:59.32`	`progammer_`	`its no longer p2p like wc3`
`02:59.33`	`doite`	`pisses me off`
`02:59.36`	`doite`	`Nothing happends`
`02:59.39`	`progammer_`	`now that it has a central server`
`02:59.46`	`Jum-Jum`	`I use to play Wc3 on a satelite broadband`
`02:59.54`	`Jum-Jum`	`2 second delay... but I never lagged down the game`
`03:00.11`	`Matt438`	`doite, what doesn't work? Does the bar not appear or is it the wrong size? It doesn't change values? What's wrong`
`03:00.13`	`Jum-Jum`	`It feels like I have more delay in SC2 than in Wc3 tho`
`03:00.39`	`doite`	`Well noting happends with bar size`
`03:00.41`	`doite`	`at all`
`03:00.56`	`doite`	`i have as event every 0.1 seconds of game`
`03:01.11`	`Matt438`	`to check for variable changes?`
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`03:01.16`	`doite`	`Yea`
`03:01.16`	`Matt438`	`tbh 0.1 is really short`
`03:01.23`	`doite`	`Well i had it to 5`
`03:01.27`	`doite`	`but still doesnt work`
`03:01.35`	`doite`	`Maybe this variable doesnt work..`
`03:01.50`	`Matt438`	`print the variable to the text area to check`
`03:01.53`	`Bounty`	`There is no 0.1`
`03:01.55`	`Bounty`	`Only Zeul`
`03:02.18`	`doite`	`What do u mean matt438?`
`03:02.18`	`DarkRevenant`	`well`
`03:02.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`the problem is`
`03:02.32`	`DarkRevenant`	`battle.net is clearly the bottleneck`
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`03:02.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`since there is no lag screen`
`03:02.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`EVERYONE gets massive delays in waves`
`03:03.35`	`kaseano`	`I duplicated an actor and deleted it, now every unit has that actor attached to it (except no actor exists)`
`03:03.52`	`doite`	`=`
`03:03.53`	`doite`	`?`
`03:03.58`	`doite`	`Wat do u mean kaseano`
`03:03.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`i have a feeling`
`03:04.02`	`Matt438`	`doite, if you think the variable is the thing going wrong, try putting in your 0.1s event UI - Display (Text(Value 1)) for (All players) to Chat area`
`03:04.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`the bnet servers are barely enough to handle melee maps`
`03:04.12`	`DarkRevenant`	`and custom maps get shafted`
`03:04.34`	`doite`	`ok`
`03:04.34`	`kaseano`	`I duplicated that flashlight actor trying to recreate it, decided against it and deleted it, now every actor w light in it now has the flashlight shooting out of it`
`03:04.56`	`Matt438`	`o_O`
`03:05.04`	`Matt438`	`shudders`
`03:05.10`	`Matt438`	`The data editor is evil like that sometimes`
`03:05.50`	`DarkRevenant`	`*`
`03:05.57`	`Matt438`	`It once renamed every single thing unit in my map and stuck an (unnamed) on the end`
`03:05.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`+/-.+/-/-`
`03:06.07`	`kaseano`	`haha wow`
`03:06.08`	`Matt438`	`and "attack" was lowercase all of a sudden`
`03:06.19`	`Matt438`	`nothing "broke" but it was really weird`
`03:06.42`	`kaseano`	`I've had it do tons of irreversible stuff before too but that was all in the beta`
`03:06.53`	`kaseano`	`kinda hoping that stuff wouldn't happen anymore`
`03:06.59`	`kaseano`	`rly gotta start backing up maps lol`
`03:08.39`	`kaseano`	`oh wait nvm all my maps from long ago are doing it too`
`03:08.57`	`Matt438`	`That doesn't sound good...`
`03:09.07`	`kaseano`	`I turned on shaders/lighting for the first time, anything with light seems to have this fractured beam coming off of it`
`03:09.12`	`kaseano`	`any1 else have that going on...`
`03:09.47`	`Matt438`	`I've modified map lighting before, nothing like that happened`
`03:13.04`	`kaseano`	`nvm had to reboot :) guess i changed the lighting settings too many times and sc freaked out`
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`03:18.28`	`doite`	`http://pastebin.com/cWBL50CJ`
`03:18.30`	`doite`	`Nope`
`03:18.33`	`doite`	`Still doesnt work`
`03:18.45`	`doite`	`What it sais in game is that unitevent has no function`
`03:19.04`	`doite`	`Its triggered to run when i shoot`
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`03:19.08`	`doite`	`then i "run trigger"`
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`03:24.40`	`doite`	`ok`
`03:24.41`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:24.52`	`doite`	`Changed it to owner of player unit 1`
`03:24.59`	`doite`	`Which isnt right but works`
`03:25.03`	`doite`	`ill change that`
`03:25.11`	`doite`	`But it moves for a sec then does nothing`
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`03:35.41`	`doite`	`It sais error "Divided by zero)`
`03:35.50`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:37.34`	`Kenetor`	`lol`
`03:38.27`	`ThunderLord`	`is there a way to make a Black image and put it in your map without it being recorded as transparent?`
`03:38.52`	`doite`	`set it as normal+`
`03:38.53`	`doite`	`?`
`03:39.03`	`doite`	`You probably have blend on`
`03:39.40`	`ThunderLord`	`can i make it so part of it is transparent and part is black?`
`03:39.45`	`ThunderLord`	`i made one in gimp that i want`
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`03:41.19`	`ThunderLord`	`oh okay`
`03:41.21`	`ThunderLord`	`i got it`
`03:41.24`	`ThunderLord`	`thanks doite`
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`03:52.56`	`Syniq`	`Dammit.`
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`03:53.06`	`Syniq`	`I wish there was a way to view the ummary screen`
`03:54.44`	`Creation`	`Darkrevenant how is your game coming?`
`03:58.53`	`doite`	`Hmm`
`03:58.55`	`doite`	`I have a question`
`03:59.03`	`doite`	`i have a ammo bar`
`03:59.09`	`Syniq`	`How out of character. ;)`
`03:59.16`	`doite`	`and the ammo bar resizes depending on current ammpo`
`03:59.17`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:59.22`	`doite`	`300 is max size`
`03:59.25`	`doite`	`Then it goes down`
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`03:59.57`	`doite`	`Then it reloads.. the the variable takes 3sec before reloading`
`04:00.02`	`doite`	`But it still goes to ful`
`04:00.04`	`doite`	`full`
`04:00.06`	`doite`	`the bar i mean`
`04:00.25`	`doite`	`I want it to wait for 3 seconds before going to full`
`04:00.27`	`doite`	`Hmm`
`04:00.31`	`doite`	`Maybe this could be..`
`04:00.36`	`doite`	`Let me try something`
`04:05.58`	`doite`	`http://pastebin.com/vEgPB3tx`
`04:06.55`	`Syniq`	`WOOHOO!`
`04:07.06`	`Syniq`	`Sorry... I finally made it out of the fscking bronze league.`
`04:11.48`	`JManV`	`do i duped baracks, and now i can't get a tech lab to attach to it`
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`04:12.43`	`JManV`	`*so i`
`04:15.12`	`JManV`	`i don't even need it to actually attach, i just need it to look and act like it's attached`
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`04:30.55`	`Syniq`	`JManV: I don't think anyone's around who can answer at the moment.`
`04:31.06`	`Syniq`	`try again in about 10 hours.`
`04:31.13`	`JManV`	`heh`
`04:31.25`	`JManV`	`don't be so syniqal ;)`
`04:31.41`	`Syniq`	`That's my other nickname, when 5 characters is too short. :D`
`04:36.47`	`doite`	`http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9810/screenshot2010112105353.jpg`
`04:42.43`	`Syniq`	`ooh, I got an achievement. :D`
`04:43.02`	`Syniq`	`So, anyway, I've got a map I want to test. Anyone on EU around that wants to play it?`
`04:43.05`	`Syniq`	`It's 3v3.`
`04:43.12`	`Syniq`	`doite: Cool`
`04:44.01`	`Syniq`	`Very cool, actually.`
`04:44.33`	`doite`	`=) i actually pasted for someone in vent`
`04:44.34`	`doite`	`to help me`
`04:44.44`	`doite`	`i want to paste a photo in that dialog area`
`04:44.47`	`doite`	`next to health`
`04:44.53`	`doite`	`but i cant resize it`
`04:45.02`	`doite`	`so now i do a regular display image`
`04:45.12`	`doite`	`and i hope its not going to be behind photo`
`04:51.26`	`doite`	`Sucess!`
`04:51.27`	`doite`	`http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2857/screenshot2010112105502.jpg`
`05:01.32`	`Syniq`	`I like that.`
`05:01.33`	`Syniq`	`A lot.`
`05:01.43`	`Syniq`	`What you building?`
`05:01.47`	`RoarMan`	`Lookin nice Doite`
`05:02.05`	`doite`	`Me?`
`05:11.27`	`Syniq`	`yeah`
`05:11.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/factme.JPG and it continues`
`05:12.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`i seeu have ur bar working doite :>`
`05:13.16`	`doite`	`Nice Rod!`
`05:13.18`	`doite`	`Yea`
`05:13.24`	`doite`	`I just did`
`05:13.30`	`doite`	`let me think..`
`05:13.32`	`doite`	`oh yea`
`05:13.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`good`
`05:13.42`	`Matt438`	`wow, that looks awesome`
`05:13.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`ty`
`05:13.55`	`doite`	`Set size : the x width to 10*current ammo`
`05:13.57`	`doite`	`Really simple`
`05:14.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`eveything u see relative to units works except for upgrades that the unit uses`
`05:14.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`ie the 3d spins`
`05:14.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`the buttons go to other units`
`05:14.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`etc`
`05:14.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`foodtime`
`05:14.50`	`Matt438`	`are the duplicates for flying?`
`05:15.13`	`Matt438`	`wait, that doesn't make sense, there are two depots o_O`
`05:39.43`	`Xapti`	`why do a bunch of movers have (unnamed) after them`
`05:39.59`	`Xapti`	`I thought that was used when the object doesn't exist.... but all these movers do exist`
`05:40.28`	`doite`	`Guys`
`05:40.52`	`doite`	`Are there an easy way to add an ability that unit creates sandbags infront of them`
`05:41.02`	`MagicSynthesis`	`just means they never gave it a localized name in the text lookup`
`05:41.04`	`doite`	`In third person mode`
`05:41.11`	`doite`	`Such as.. if player presses..`
`05:41.14`	`doite`	`g`
`05:41.16`	`Xapti`	`doit why not`
`05:41.25`	`doite`	`Create unit infron of unit triggering unit?`
`05:41.34`	`doite`	`And creates the santbag as unit`
`05:41.37`	`doite`	`is that possible?`
`05:41.50`	`Xapti`	`of course it is... how do you think probes make buildings`
`05:41.53`	`Xapti`	`and buildings make units?`
`05:42.05`	`doite`	`Magic?`
`05:42.33`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah, of course`
`05:42.34`	`doite`	`But i mean.. what would the created unit position be?`
`05:42.51`	`MagicSynthesis`	`depends, are you having them choose a target?`
`05:42.55`	`doite`	`in function i meann`
`05:42.58`	`MagicSynthesis`	`or just clicking the button`
`05:42.59`	`doite`	`No they cant`
`05:43.02`	`doite`	`Its third person mode`
`05:43.06`	`MagicSynthesis`	`ok`
`05:43.10`	`doite`	`MAYBE`
`05:43.17`	`doite`	`at the position where their looking?`
`05:43.20`	`doite`	`If thats possible..`
`05:43.26`	`Xapti`	`offset works doesn't it`
`05:43.54`	`doite`	`Asking me`
`05:43.55`	`doite`	`
`05:43.56`	`doite`	`?`
`05:44.00`	`MagicSynthesis`	`if i had to do it, i would jsut calculate based on the player unit's rotation`
`05:44.15`	`doite`	`Thats snart!`
`05:44.17`	`doite`	`smart`
`05:44.28`	`doite`	`Hmm..`
`05:44.32`	`doite`	`Let me se what i can do`
`05:44.39`	`MagicSynthesis`	`so like if he is facing right (270)`
`05:44.59`	`MagicSynthesis`	`you'd say x+1 y+0`
`05:45.13`	`MagicSynthesis`	`of course you'll need to fuzz it up a bit`
`05:45.19`	`Xapti`	`that would be using triggers you dont' even need to use triggers`
`05:45.22`	`MagicSynthesis`	`since he could be like 278.934`
`05:45.31`	`Xapti`	`triggers would be so stupidly easy, but you could make it with an ability too`
`05:46.06`	`MagicSynthesis`	`is there an example ability already?`
`05:46.28`	`Xapti`	`probe building a pylon would be pretty close`
`05:46.39`	`Xapti`	`just need to add an offset instead of having to select a location`
`05:46.54`	`MagicSynthesis`	`right, i was explaining how i'd figure out the offset`
`05:47.01`	`MagicSynthesis`	`based on unit rotation`
`05:48.27`	`doite`	`..`
`05:48.34`	`doite`	`But for us less skilled`
`05:48.39`	`doite`	`I mean.. what?`
`05:48.42`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol`
`05:48.49`	`Xapti`	`need to learn how to map edit`
`05:48.56`	`MagicSynthesis`	`h/o`
`05:49.20`	`doite`	`But that was just what i asked`
`05:49.30`	`doite`	`Do i have to alter the unit in data editor`
`05:49.45`	`doite`	`or can i just set the "point" to near unit "infron of unit"`
`05:50.16`	`doite`	`Becouse as seen on the image`
`05:50.17`	`doite`	`http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2857/screenshot2010112105502.jpg`
`05:50.21`	`doite`	`If he stands like that`
`05:50.29`	`doite`	`I want it to make it just infront of him`
`05:50.59`	`Xapti`	`can use trigger or ability. ability requires data editor knowledge, trigger requires trigger editor knowledge`
`05:52.05`	`doite`	`Why thanks`
`05:52.13`	`doite`	`thats actually really helpful`
`05:53.31`	`MagicSynthesis`	`if (rotation >= 45.0) && (rotation < 135.0))`
`05:53.32`	`MagicSynthesis`	`{`
`05:53.32`	`MagicSynthesis`	`y--;`
`05:53.32`	`MagicSynthesis`	`}`
`05:53.32`	`MagicSynthesis`	`else if ((rotation >= 135.0) && (rotation < 225.0))`
`05:53.32`	`MagicSynthesis`	`{`
`05:53.32`	`MagicSynthesis`	`x++;`
`05:53.33`	`MagicSynthesis`	`}`
`05:53.33`	`MagicSynthesis`	`else if ((rotation >= 225.0) && (rotation < 315.0))`
`05:53.34`	`MagicSynthesis`	`{`
`05:53.34`	`MagicSynthesis`	`y++;`
`05:53.35`	`MagicSynthesis`	`}`
`05:53.35`	`MagicSynthesis`	`else`
`05:53.36`	`MagicSynthesis`	`{`
`05:54.24`	`MagicSynthesis`	`if (rotation >= 45.0) && (rotation < 135.0)) { y--; }`
`05:54.24`	`MagicSynthesis`	`else if ((rotation >= 135.0) && (rotation < 225.0)) { x++; }`
`05:54.24`	`MagicSynthesis`	`else if ((rotation >= 225.0) && (rotation < 315.0)) { y++; }`
`05:54.24`	`MagicSynthesis`	`else { x--;}`
`05:55.12`	`MagicSynthesis`	`assuming i got the directions aligned with the model...`
`05:55.22`	`doite`	`Thanks man, but still in data editor`
`05:55.23`	`MagicSynthesis`	`that is more or less what you would do`
`05:55.44`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah, if the data editor can do it, go for it`
`05:56.20`	`MagicSynthesis`	`otherwise, make yourself a function in the trigger editor`
`05:57.22`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:57.24`	`doite`	`Done thanks`
`05:59.26`	`MagicSynthesis`	`haha, how well does it work?`
`06:00.23`	`doite`	`The camera variable is units position + zoomed past`
`06:00.38`	`doite`	`Creates in air but ill modify`
`06:01.00`	`doite`	`Thats why i asked if their was a way to just create it in another way`
`06:01.11`	`doite`	`Without going all.. "bility requires data editor knowledge, trigger requires trigger editor knowledge"`
`06:02.52`	`MagicSynthesis`	`in my rather limited experience, the data editor only gets you so far`
`06:03.01`	`MagicSynthesis`	`pretty nice when it does everything you want`
`06:04.39`	`MagicSynthesis`	`then again, i suppose that works both ways`
`06:04.56`	`MagicSynthesis`	`since you cant do everything in a trigger, either`
`06:05.15`	`doite`	`True`
`06:05.21`	`doite`	`Well...`
`06:05.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`well data editors dont make this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/factme.JPG`
`06:05.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`hehe`
`06:05.49`	`MagicSynthesis`	`haha, nope`
`06:06.36`	`doite`	`I suck at data editor :(`
`06:06.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`it does take time`
`06:06.53`	`RodOfNOD`	`i still havent written one spell hehe`
`06:06.58`	`RodOfNOD`	`but i have been investigating ALOT`
`06:07.28`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i actually wrote c# code to auto-generate a lot of the xml`
`06:07.34`	`MagicSynthesis`	`like hero levels for example`
`06:07.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`06:07.46`	`MagicSynthesis`	`if you want 100 levels`
`06:07.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`i am doing the same with excel`
`06:07.54`	`MagicSynthesis`	`you arent gonna punch that shit in manually`
`06:07.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`i havea MASSIVE spreadsheet thatgenerates xml`
`06:08.10`	`MagicSynthesis`	`haha, you have tio`
`06:08.19`	`RodOfNOD`	`most people dont`
`06:08.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`i would estimate 1%`
`06:08.40`	`MagicSynthesis`	`well that's just insane`
`06:08.44`	`MagicSynthesis`	`it would take hours`
`06:08.53`	`MagicSynthesis`	`and you'd miss shit on top of it all`
`06:08.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes but mostpeople have no clue how to make xml`
`06:09.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes its the errors`
`06:09.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`time is big`
`06:09.07`	`MagicSynthesis`	`true`
`06:09.08`	`RodOfNOD`	`but the errors u make is horrid`
`06:09.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`if i make an error i just reexport :>`
`06:09.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`making some of the shit in excel is apain though`
`06:10.02`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i'd love to automate more`
`06:10.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`command cards took forever`
`06:10.16`	`MagicSynthesis`	`but i havent taken the time to figure out how to extract the data`
`06:10.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok time to code`
`06:10.41`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lots of weird links and stuff, no consistency in the names`
`06:11.11`	`Xapti`	`Anyone know why do a bunch of movers have (unnamed) after them?`
`06:11.35`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah, i told you when you asked before`
`06:11.54`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Aedrix (43aa8e6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.170.142.111)`
`06:12.15`	`MagicSynthesis`	`they dont have a 'display' name in the text data`
`06:12.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`ie blizzard was lazy`
`06:12.46`	`MagicSynthesis`	`a lot of the internal stuff is like that`
`06:12.51`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah`
`06:15.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`GOD DAMN ITS COLD`
`06:19.02`	`Syniq`	`"Wall here", I say.`
`06:19.05`	`Syniq`	`They don't.`
`06:19.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`hey MagicSynthesis u know how to turn off player control?`
`06:19.13`	`Syniq`	`Then they're surprised why we get cannon rushed.`
`06:19.17`	`Syniq`	`I hate noobs.`
`06:19.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`hehe`
`06:19.35`	`Syniq`	`Then I get called a noob and sworn at because they're idiots.`
`06:20.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes it is a scene from the history of rts`
`06:20.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`u are the newb not them`
`06:20.23`	`Xapti`	`oh orry i didn't noice the firt time`
`06:20.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`sometimes i get so mad :>`
`06:20.30`	`Xapti`	`damn keyboard`
`06:20.51`	`Xapti`	`randomly doesn't register 2,w,s,x "row"`
`06:21.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`hehe`
`06:21.08`	`doite`	`If i have any units life changes`
`06:21.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`i have issues with my space bar`
`06:21.11`	`doite`	`and have this action`
`06:21.12`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:21.26`	`doite`	`Will it allwas be the specific units life`
`06:21.40`	`doite`	`or will it change to any units life thats changing?`
`06:21.46`	`doite`	`Ah ofc not, nvm`
`06:21.48`	`Xapti`	`syniq were you not the one who said you jsut got out of bronze?`
`06:21.56`	`doite`	`Since its player group owner of triggering unit`
`06:23.01`	`Xapti`	`although I guess there is a difference between bronze player and new player`
`06:24.25`	`doite`	`AHA!`
`06:26.14`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:26.26`	`doite`	`Is that set for every player seperatly`
`06:26.51`	`doite`	`Or do i have to make a new variable if i want him to have his own unit bar dialog`
`06:26.57`	`doite`	`Bad example`
`06:27.09`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:27.20`	`doite`	`That one is better`
`06:27.39`	`doite`	`Im to tierd, i know these things by now.. ill just go to bed`
`06:28.18`	`JManV`	`i'm totally gonna give hero levels to an scv`
`06:28.24`	`JManV`	`a regular scv`
`06:28.38`	`JManV`	`wonder if i can level it up :)`
`06:30.46`	`MagicSynthesis`	`finally figured out how to compress my damn loading screen`
`06:31.15`	`MagicSynthesis`	`what dds tools do you guys use?`
`06:32.17`	`JManV`	`the gimp?`
`06:32.20`	`MagicSynthesis`	`so far the nvidia plugin for photoshop has given me the best results in terms of... well... working at all`
`06:32.55`	`JManV`	`intalling photoshop is crazy hard`
`06:33.01`	`MagicSynthesis`	`not anymore`
`06:33.06`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i made a custom installer`
`06:33.12`	`MagicSynthesis`	`no keygens, no cracks`
`06:33.14`	`MagicSynthesis`	`55mb`
`06:33.20`	`MagicSynthesis`	`even made a banner image`
`06:33.22`	`MagicSynthesis`	`in fact...`
`06:33.38`	`Xapti`	`55mb photoshop?`
`06:33.41`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yep`
`06:33.54`	`MagicSynthesis`	`installs in 30 seconds`
`06:34.02`	`JManV`	`what>`
`06:34.07`	`MagicSynthesis`	`and i loaded it with extra styles, plugins`
`06:34.07`	`Aedrix`	`anyone have much experience making custom tech restrictions? I'm failing hard apparently.`
`06:34.09`	`JManV`	`i can't even begin to believe that`
`06:34.25`	`MagicSynthesis`	`http://www.magicsynthesis.com/share/download/AdobePhotoshopCS2.msi`
`06:34.26`	`MagicSynthesis`	`enjoy`
`06:35.16`	`MagicSynthesis`	`CS2 is the last version to use the native windows UI`
`06:35.29`	`MagicSynthesis`	`which is why i still use it`
`06:36.19`	`Xapti`	`anyone know a better source of info for movers than this? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/4855-data-customized-movers-advanced-difficulty/`
`06:36.29`	`Xapti`	`doesn't really cover a whole lot`
`06:36.42`	`JManV`	`it says advanced :)`
`06:36.48`	`JManV`	`why would the internet lie?`
`06:36.48`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol`
`06:37.31`	`JManV`	`i believe everything the internet says, always`
`06:37.41`	`MagicSynthesis`	`the new gimp UI actually isnt half bad`
`06:37.56`	`JManV`	`no, gimp isn't horrible`
`06:37.57`	`Xapti`	`I haven't seen i`
`06:37.58`	`MagicSynthesis`	`if only they'd change the name`
`06:38.04`	`JManV`	`it just isn't great, either`
`06:38.07`	`MagicSynthesis`	`they might have something here`
`06:38.22`	`Xapti`	`I didn't care for the control scheme for GIMP when I used it. Sees a bit tedious`
`06:38.27`	`Xapti`	`seemed`
`06:38.30`	`JManV`	`it's free. they can call it whatever they want`
`06:38.31`	`MagicSynthesis`	`photoshops UI isnt exactly fantastic either`
`06:38.37`	`MagicSynthesis`	`just so used to it`
`06:38.51`	`JManV`	`i've always been a paint shop pro fan`
`06:39.06`	`MagicSynthesis`	`isnt that dead?`
`06:39.13`	`JManV`	`basically`
`06:39.14`	`MagicSynthesis`	`havent used that since like 99`
`06:39.16`	`JManV`	`corel bought it`
`06:39.24`	`JManV`	`they still make it`
`06:39.31`	`JManV`	`it's the same editor, basically`
`06:39.37`	`MagicSynthesis`	`what about corel draw?`
`06:39.41`	`MagicSynthesis`	`they merge them?`
`06:39.51`	`JManV`	`i dunno anything about corel draw`
`06:40.02`	`MagicSynthesis`	`it was slick back in the day`
`06:40.10`	`Acemore`	`if anyone's interested:`
`06:40.11`	`Acemore`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/15124-mad-v1-1-fx-official-thread/`
`06:40.13`	`Acemore`	`:)`
`06:42.50`	`MagicSynthesis`	`oh, and if you like the photoshop installer, which you certainly will`
`06:42.59`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i made one for axialis icon workshop too`
`06:43.14`	`MagicSynthesis`	`another core graphics program i cant live without`
`06:43.16`	`MagicSynthesis`	`http://www.magicsynthesis.com/share/download/AxialisIconWorkshop6.msi`
`06:43.29`	`MagicSynthesis`	`also precracked, configured, etc`
`06:43.49`	`Xapti`	`how big is it`
`06:43.54`	`MagicSynthesis`	`7mb`
`06:44.28`	`Xapti`	`you don't happen to make win7 installs do you?`
`06:44.35`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i reformat like every other month, so yeah`
`06:44.42`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i automate all my shit`
`06:44.49`	`Xapti`	`small ones of x64?`
`06:45.02`	`MagicSynthesis`	`tough to get it small and keep it stable`
`06:45.15`	`MagicSynthesis`	`because of the way the new winsxs folder works`
`06:45.22`	`Xapti`	`yeah. Current one i have is like 4.5GB, but the guy left out a freaking semi-critical component`
`06:45.52`	`Xapti`	`so I can't run paint, any microsot management control application like services, comptuer managemet, etc.`
`06:45.58`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah, that's why i wouldnt recommend shrinking it too much`
`06:46.19`	`Xapti`	`and I coudln't run foxit reader either`
`06:46.20`	`MagicSynthesis`	`it keeps tons of older binaries`
`06:46.25`	`MagicSynthesis`	`in multiple versions`
`06:46.30`	`MagicSynthesis`	`for compatibility purposes`
`06:46.32`	`Xapti`	`which is SO FAR the only program that wouldn't run because of the problem`
`06:46.43`	`MagicSynthesis`	`if you scrub that out too much, stuff will stop working`
`06:47.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RaydenUni (~rayden@ip68-5-22-175.oc.oc.cox.net)`
`06:47.10`	`MagicSynthesis`	`why do you care about size, anyway?`
`06:47.11`	`Xapti`	`It was one thing he left out, I did research on MSFN and it was called MDAC`
`06:47.20`	`Xapti`	`I'm running on a 30GB SSD`
`06:47.28`	`MagicSynthesis`	`oh, well that ones easy`
`06:47.34`	`Xapti`	`yeah`
`06:47.46`	`MagicSynthesis`	`im not sure if mdac even comes with windows`
`06:47.55`	`Xapti`	`it's integrated to win7`
`06:47.57`	`MagicSynthesis`	`it didnt in XP, i know that much`
`06:48.41`	`Xapti`	`When I was new to Win7 (a few months ago) Ideleted stuff in Winsxs`
`06:48.48`	`MagicSynthesis`	`ouch`
`06:48.58`	`Xapti`	`and then crossfirewouldn't work. windows would blue screen whenever i had 2 video cards plugged in`
`06:49.15`	`Xapti`	`I almost thought it was motherboard issue, but then I finally recently reformatted`
`06:49.17`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol, yeah that folder isnt even 'real'`
`06:49.29`	`MagicSynthesis`	`it's a bunch of hard links to stuff all over the place`
`06:49.42`	`MagicSynthesis`	`deleting from there makes stuff disappear from all over`
`06:49.44`	`Xapti`	`Yeah I don't completely get it, cause I was using windirstat`
`06:50.27`	`Xapti`	`to map the space, and It either considered the winsxs stuff to be the unique file, or it was showing both locations`
`06:50.50`	`JManV`	`i have a level 3 scv`
`06:50.52`	`Xapti`	`I don't know if you've heard of windirstat. It's a nice little program to show the space used graphically`
`06:50.55`	`JManV`	`:P`
`06:51.06`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah, but i use spacemonger`
`06:51.10`	`JManV`	`it does +1 damage`
`06:51.12`	`MagicSynthesis`	`more colorful`
`06:51.13`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol`
`06:51.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster doite (53e9953f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.233.149.63)`
`06:52.39`	`doite`	`LOL`
`06:52.49`	`doite`	`My map actually got quite popular!`
`06:52.55`	`doite`	`40 new mails`
`06:53.02`	`JManV`	`because of shared experience, it's gaining experience while building a command center :)`
`06:54.40`	`MagicSynthesis`	`doite, what map?`
`06:54.49`	`doite`	`It was stupid`
`06:54.55`	`doite`	`But its "The Doomsday"`
`06:55.10`	`MagicSynthesis`	`im in the mood to play a decent hero defense map`
`06:55.19`	`MagicSynthesis`	`other than mine`
`06:55.29`	`doite`	`Basicly a advance survival map thats really challanging with some cinamatics`
`06:55.45`	`MagicSynthesis`	`is it published?`
`06:55.49`	`doite`	`Yea`
`06:55.52`	`doite`	`But im from europe`
`06:55.57`	`MagicSynthesis`	`damnit`
`06:56.28`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RedWraith (~daviddavi@ip98-164-199-113.oc.oc.cox.net)`
`06:56.47`	`RedWraith`	`Madness comes to those who hear me!`
`06:57.18`	`MagicSynthesis`	`this localization crap is so stupid`
`06:57.31`	`RedWraith`	`I'm still banned, though since then I've been exploring the nature of games.`
`06:57.41`	`RedWraith`	`And no one who knows of me is here. Crap.]`
`06:57.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`why do u say that MagicSynthesis`
`06:57.47`	`RedWraith`	`oh, there's one!`
`06:57.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`06:57.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`i know of u`
`06:57.53`	`RodOfNOD`	`udumbass u stillbanned?`
`06:58.04`	`RedWraith`	`yeah, Blizzard is really hard on innocent people`
`06:58.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`they didnt give u back ur cash either?`
`06:58.22`	`RedWraith`	`>implying Blizzard gives refunds for denying players content`
`06:58.38`	`RedWraith`	`I swear that would make an excellent class action, since the entire game is denied.`
`06:58.39`	`RodOfNOD`	`id class action them :>`
`06:58.41`	`MagicSynthesis`	`because it serves no purpose other than making shit hard`
`06:58.46`	`Sixen`	`=/`
`06:58.53`	`RodOfNOD`	`hi sixen`
`06:59.15`	`MagicSynthesis`	`sure, multiple languages is obviously needed`
`06:59.25`	`MagicSynthesis`	`but it should be exactly that`
`06:59.31`	`MagicSynthesis`	`with a dropdown on the search screen`
`06:59.39`	`Xapti`	`magic, your MAD game get much public play?`
`06:59.59`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i didnt make a MAD map`
`07:00.05`	`RedWraith`	`Sixen, I'm much more of a game developer than a mapmaker anyway. >_> It's my design that made my map good, not code or subtle uses of Blizzard's engine. I'd be better making real games, that is if I weren't planning on going to grad school for physics.`
`07:00.42`	`MagicSynthesis`	`what did you do redwraith?`
`07:00.53`	`RedWraith`	`MagicSynthesis, there was an easy way to do localization and Blizzard chose the hard one.`
`07:01.05`	`RedWraith`	`I got my map featured.`
`07:01.07`	`Xapti`	`sorry i meant acermore`
`07:01.11`	`RedWraith`	`That's my only crime against Blizzard.`
`07:01.11`	`Xapti`	`not magic`
`07:01.11`	`Sixen`	`;p`
`07:01.15`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol`
`07:01.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`the he got caught hacking :> hehe`
`07:01.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`oh sorry i mean he was falsely accused of course`
`07:01.47`	`Tordy`	`stupid netbeans`
`07:01.51`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol, hacking the popularity rating?`
`07:02.04`	`RedWraith`	`It could've been any number of things, from playing like 20 5 minute games in a row, to Blizzard giving me achievements for things I didn't do.`
`07:02.22`	`RedWraith`	`to having Netlimiter on in the background`
`07:02.39`	`RedWraith`	`to using macros on my keyboard in single player games where I did nothing but test them`
`07:03.04`	`RedWraith`	`or you know, Blizzard getting false positives`
`07:03.13`	`RedWraith`	`because they can't design software for shit`
`07:03.22`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol`
`07:03.55`	`MagicSynthesis`	`at least they made an editor, though`
`07:03.56`	`RedWraith`	`There are a handful of good developers at Blizzard who really carry everyone else imo. That is, if you ever look at anything you're actually allowed to, 70% of it is designed in a way that 5 minutes could've ruled out as having better possibilities`
`07:04.36`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah, but everything is like that`
`07:04.37`	`RedWraith`	`They're the only company who really had the opportunity. There is literally no one else to compare them to. The editor is the in-house editor they needed to make their campaign.`
`07:04.55`	`MagicSynthesis`	`it seems that is what happens when multiple people work on a project`
`07:05.02`	`MagicSynthesis`	`eg: more than 1 or 2`
`07:05.47`	`RedWraith`	`It's probably because they were hurried or something of that nature, or some other reason where it would be better for other things but later became a collosal failure.`
`07:05.50`	`MagicSynthesis`	`they are using it to make their campaigns???`
`07:06.02`	`MagicSynthesis`	`damn, no wonder it's gonna take 18 months for the next expansion`
`07:06.03`	`RedWraith`	`You can open the campaign maps in the editor....`
`07:06.05`	`JManV`	`oh yeah, definitely`
`07:06.14`	`RedWraith`	`also cutscenes`
`07:06.14`	`JManV`	`haha`
`07:06.18`	`RedWraith`	`everything but pre-rendered stuff`
`07:06.27`	`doite`	`http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/706726/blizzard-cracking-down-on-inappropriate-starcraft-2-maps.html`
`07:06.27`	`doite`	`lol`
`07:06.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`if they use this editor to make actual maps im a monkeys uncle`
`07:07.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`or else the people that are making the maps are bitching about it as much as we are`
`07:07.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`there are SO many small but necessary things missing from a real environment`
`07:07.46`	`RedWraith`	`RodOfN0D, the actual mapmakers are like ProzaicMuze but better.`
`07:07.53`	`Syniq`	`haha, SC2 has a reference to Bioshock in it.`
`07:07.54`	`Syniq`	`The achievement for "Destroy 5 units with a single Neural Parasited unit in a League game" is called "Would you kindly..."`
`07:07.58`	`RedWraith`	`ProzaicMuze but with deadlines to get things done*`
`07:08.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`while i agree prozaicmuze is awesome with data`
`07:08.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`its only a lack of a manual that prevents me from being so`
`07:08.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`in wc3 i owned the editor`
`07:08.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`just takes time`
`07:08.49`	`RedWraith`	`I only complain because most people aren't skilled at design or good at decision-making.`
`07:08.55`	`RedWraith`	`Makes me even more valuable. B)`
`07:09.03`	`MagicSynthesis`	`for me it's the lack of intellisense in the galaxy editor`
`07:09.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`btw RedWraith`
`07:09.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/factme.JPG`
`07:09.17`	`MagicSynthesis`	`since i dont want to look up every function definition`
`07:09.27`	`MagicSynthesis`	`until i eventually have them all memorized`
`07:09.47`	`RedWraith`	`What's that, RodOfN0D?`
`07:09.48`	`MagicSynthesis`	`ive been using the stupid drag-drop wristing killing junk`
`07:09.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`its little things whenu double click on a string and it picks theentire stringinstead of seperating by punctuation`
`07:09.51`	`RedWraith`	`It looks like the help screen.`
`07:09.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`u tell me RedWraith`
`07:09.56`	`RodOfNOD`	`very good`
`07:09.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`u go to the head of the class`
`07:10.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`:>`
`07:10.19`	`RodOfNOD`	`its the new and improve help screen that blizz should have made hehe`
`07:10.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`its for our sc1 mod project`
`07:10.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`among other things im sure`
`07:10.36`	`RedWraith`	`ah`
`07:10.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`allthe buttons are clickable`
`07:10.48`	`RedWraith`	`yeah, that's going to be massively difficult to make`
`07:10.56`	`RedWraith`	`especially since the game rules for sc2 don't line up with sc1`
`07:10.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`its almost done with the units`
`07:11.07`	`MagicSynthesis`	`are you using data tables as a source for a lot of that stuff?`
`07:11.08`	`RodOfNOD`	`oh sc1 mod?`
`07:11.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`it will be done within 2 months`
`07:11.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`want to see some pretty pics?`
`07:11.38`	`RedWraith`	`You can't create an accurate sc1 mod (side note: exception if your name is RedWraith). Only Blizzard can.`
`07:11.52`	`RedWraith`	`You could, however, create one with all of the same units.`
`07:11.58`	`RedWraith`	`projectiles and such`
`07:12.08`	`RedWraith`	`all of the unit rules would be the same, just not engine-based rules`
`07:12.11`	`RedWraith`	`like pathing`
`07:12.21`	`RedWraith`	`or multiple factory blahblah`
`07:12.29`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/ReaverParty.JPG`
`07:12.33`	`RedWraith`	`really, only the pathing is the issue`
`07:12.48`	`RedWraith`	`those are some good reavers`
`07:12.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`not gonna stop players from using the sc2 niceties`
`07:12.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes`
`07:12.52`	`MagicSynthesis`	`isnt the new pathing better?`
`07:12.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`the only ones ive seen`
`07:12.56`	`RedWraith`	`yes`
`07:12.57`	`RedWraith`	`exactly`
`07:13.10`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/coloredqueens.JPG`
`07:13.15`	`RedWraith`	`you know they have darkachon skins in the game info`
`07:13.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/guardians.JPG`
`07:13.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes but its green`
`07:13.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/DarkArchon1lq.JPG`
`07:14.02`	`Syniq`	`I like that info screen layout`
`07:14.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/dragoonsfiring.JPG`
`07:14.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`ty`
`07:14.17`	`RedWraith`	`that reskined archon looks nothing like a dark archon`
`07:14.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`heres what u can do`
`07:14.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/marinedead.JPG`
`07:14.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`well dark archons are black in the middle`
`07:14.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`which means u have no teamcolor`
`07:14.41`	`RedWraith`	`yes`
`07:14.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`which is something i always disliked about sc1`
`07:14.49`	`RedWraith`	`but you could`
`07:14.51`	`RedWraith`	`redo the armor`
`07:14.59`	`RedWraith`	`to have it be more extreme contours`
`07:15.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`well i just hex edited that model`
`07:15.10`	`RodOfNOD`	`till we have art tools....`
`07:15.16`	`RedWraith`	`like the shape would have stronger edges, more bent, etc.`
`07:15.23`	`RedWraith`	`several black portions`
`07:15.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/LLM.jpg hehe`
`07:15.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`wellthats not the current version we have really added in black shit`
`07:15.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`so its closer but still has team color`
`07:16.12`	`RedWraith`	`so long as it's red`
`07:16.14`	`RedWraith`	`no one will care`
`07:16.25`	`RedWraith`	`have you made creep colonies and shield generators yet?`
`07:16.26`	`RedWraith`	`;)`
`07:16.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Capture.JPG`
`07:16.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`no`
`07:16.42`	`RodOfNOD`	`gotta get on skiz and soundsnc`
`07:16.53`	`RedWraith`	`sunkens and spores should be pretty easy though`
`07:16.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`spore is done`
`07:16.58`	`RedWraith`	`since crawlers look so similar`
`07:17.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`cuz of spore cannon`
`07:17.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`but sunk will have to be made`
`07:17.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`crawlers look nothing like sunks`
`07:17.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`they attack from above`
`07:17.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`not even remotely close`
`07:17.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`:P`
`07:17.26`	`RedWraith`	`?`
`07:17.30`	`RedWraith`	`both of them attack in similar ways`
`07:17.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`sunks attack from below`
`07:17.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`spine from above`
`07:17.45`	`RedWraith`	`wait let me see`
`07:17.48`	`MagicSynthesis`	`do you guys know anything about the MPQ file format?`
`07:17.54`	`MagicSynthesis`	`since you seem to go way back`
`07:17.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`nothing technical MagicSynthesis`
`07:18.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`but i use it all the time`
`07:18.08`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i need code`
`07:18.11`	`Sixen`	`What about it, Magic?`
`07:18.14`	`MagicSynthesis`	`well`
`07:18.16`	`RodOfNOD`	`u should be able to google it up`
`07:18.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`im sure someone has public mpq code`
`07:18.31`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i want to extract, repack programatically`
`07:18.32`	`Sixen`	`there are public mpqlib's`
`07:18.37`	`Sixen`	`in what lang?`
`07:18.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`i cant belioeve u didnt comment about my infested cc :P`
`07:18.39`	`MagicSynthesis`	`so i can make some editing tools in c#`
`07:18.51`	`Sixen`	`I used...`
`07:18.54`	`MagicSynthesis`	`c++ or c# or even vb`
`07:18.59`	`MagicSynthesis`	`doesnt matter too much'`
`07:19.15`	`Sixen`	`I used this: http://home.magosx.com/index.php?topic=77.0`
`07:19.27`	`MagicSynthesis`	`oh slick`
`07:19.34`	`RedWraith`	`RodOfN0D, I could see it being fairly difficult to make actually.`
`07:20.19`	`RedWraith`	`Anyway, not like it matters since I'm still banned. I do look forward to seeing it made though. :O`
`07:20.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`what is that RedWraith?`
`07:20.44`	`MagicSynthesis`	`this should work nicely`
`07:20.49`	`MagicSynthesis`	`thanks, dude`
`07:21.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`oh themod yes time consuming to do it right`
`07:21.51`	`RedWraith`	`Defilers`
`07:21.54`	`RedWraith`	`will likely be`
`07:21.58`	`RedWraith`	`your greatest challenge`
`07:22.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`maybe`
`07:22.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`most of the spells arepretty easy`
`07:22.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`doing a proper scarab attack will be fun`
`07:22.45`	`Syniq`	`Oh yeah, what happened to them?`
`07:23.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`kerrigan killed them all`
`07:24.05`	`RedWraith`	`scarab attack?`
`07:24.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes from the reaver`
`07:24.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`to do a proper emulation of that will be work so says prozaic`
`07:24.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`the hardest thingwehad in wc3 was carriers`
`07:24.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`nice to not have to do that`
`07:25.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`the biggest DECISION i think we have is how to handle mind control and everything that goes into that`
`07:25.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`for example sc2 doesnt support multiple supplies`
`07:26.38`	`RedWraith`	`ah yes`
`07:26.47`	`RedWraith`	`you could create your own supply though`
`07:26.54`	`RedWraith`	`but it'd be hard to implement`
`07:27.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes it will be fun`
`07:27.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`i see fake dialog buttons top right`
`07:27.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`:P`
`07:27.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`still not sure how best to handle it`
`07:27.53`	`RodOfNOD`	`cuz of the money issue`
`07:27.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`andsupply issue`
`07:28.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`when u got to make theunit`
`07:31.52`	`doite`	`dude`
`07:31.54`	`doite`	`this guy...`
`07:31.55`	`doite`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYQTFq4N9rs`
`07:31.58`	`doite`	`wtf`
`07:32.00`	`doite`	`how..`
`07:33.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`how wht`
`07:34.24`	`currydevil`	`damnit, torchlight is annoying.`
`07:35.44`	`Syniq`	`heh`
`07:36.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`that looks very well done doite`
`07:36.18`	`currydevil`	`go 5 floors just for each story tidbit that tells me i'm almost at the end.. 5 more floors!`
`07:36.28`	`MagicSynthesis`	`technically it's very impressive... but i just dont consider sc responsive enough for fps-style games`
`07:36.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`hehe`
`07:36.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`agreed MagicSynthesis`
`07:36.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`plus if u want fps go play one :P`
`07:36.50`	`MagicSynthesis`	`especially when you've got shit like the quake 3 engine fully open source`
`07:36.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`its not like there are not hundreds`
`07:37.29`	`doite`	`I just wonder what he uses as colors..`
`07:37.34`	`doite`	`his game looks so smooth`
`07:37.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`its all lighting`
`07:37.48`	`RodOfNOD`	`lighting does such cool shit`
`07:37.56`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah, and the rest is alla skybox`
`07:37.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`go open up the lighting editor`
`07:38.03`	`doite`	`and lets face it.. starcraft 2 looks like its done by one of my computer programmers friends`
`07:38.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`and ull see what i mean`
`07:38.08`	`doite`	`the grafics suck`
`07:38.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`i disagree`
`07:38.16`	`RodOfNOD`	`i find them to be great myself`
`07:38.18`	`Syniq`	`heh`
`07:38.24`	`Syniq`	`No, they suck. :p`
`07:38.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`they were not going for realism`
`07:38.31`	`Syniq`	`They're really low-poly.`
`07:38.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`its an rts`
`07:38.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`wtf u want`
`07:39.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`and the engine can run high poly u see it in the story animations`
`07:39.05`	`doite`	`Lightning editor?`
`07:39.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`lighting`
`07:39.10`	`Syniq`	`Angelina Jolie's chuff onna stick, please.`
`07:39.10`	`MagicSynthesis`	`agreed, i think it's right where it should be graphically`
`07:39.13`	`Syniq`	`My stick. ^^`
`07:39.21`	`doite`	`U mean in data editr?`
`07:39.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`not sure what a chuff is but yea ill take her too`
`07:39.29`	`doite`	`This is something new for me?`
`07:39.31`	`doite`	`Im listening`
`07:39.43`	`Syniq`	`heh`
`07:39.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`go to the menu WINDOW and pick LIGHTING`
`07:40.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`unless the new thing is anglina jolie being hot THAT i couldnt help u with`
`07:41.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`i watched left 4 dead the real game the other day`
`07:41.20`	`MagicSynthesis`	`fyi blizzard, the 'window' menu is not the place to put menuitem that spawn new windows`
`07:41.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`and while the graphics were nice i was appalled at the realism andoverly bloodiness`
`07:41.29`	`MagicSynthesis`	`that would be the view menu`
`07:41.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`hehe`
`07:41.56`	`doite`	`Left for dead?`
`07:42.01`	`Tordy`	`anyone else here hate netbeans`
`07:42.03`	`Tordy`	`FREAKIN HATE IT`
`07:42.04`	`Tordy`	`ARGH`
`07:42.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`ya the game`
`07:42.06`	`doite`	`That grafics sucks`
`07:42.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`what are netbeans?`
`07:42.18`	`Tordy`	`netbeans more like SHITbeans`
`07:42.25`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol, no shit`
`07:42.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`not sure what they are`
`07:42.34`	`MagicSynthesis`	`why are you using that bloated crap?`
`07:43.04`	`Tordy`	`iunno it's supposed to work`
`07:43.27`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah, but the thing it is actually written using java`
`07:43.36`	`MagicSynthesis`	`you never write a UI with java ;)`
`07:43.37`	`Tordy`	`is eclipse too?`
`07:43.45`	`MagicSynthesis`	`it wasnt last i used it`
`07:43.51`	`Tordy`	`well good`
`07:43.54`	`MagicSynthesis`	`pretty sure it was c`
`07:43.55`	`Tordy`	`because eclipse never failed`
`07:43.56`	`Tordy`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:44.09`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i heard that was kinda bloated now too`
`07:44.17`	`Tordy`	`but SHITbeans keeps giving me these compile problems`
`07:44.24`	`Tordy`	`that dont make any sense`
`07:44.30`	`Tordy`	`i googled it`
`07:44.36`	`Tordy`	`and im not the only one w/ this problem`
`07:44.42`	`Tordy`	`yet no one has a working solution`
`07:45.05`	`MagicSynthesis`	`what are you using java for anyway?`
`07:45.05`	`Tordy`	`hi there`
`07:45.17`	`Tordy`	`it's for a project i gotta use java`
`07:45.40`	`MagicSynthesis`	`ah, i see`
`07:45.45`	`Tordy`	`making a wep app`
`07:45.53`	`MagicSynthesis`	`with java?`
`07:45.54`	`Tordy`	`for some reason netbeans doesnt like apache tomcat`
`07:46.18`	`MagicSynthesis`	`you mean like a java applet?`
`07:46.26`	`Tordy`	`poop`
`07:46.52`	`Tordy`	`no`
`07:47.06`	`MagicSynthesis`	`jsp?`
`07:47.09`	`Tordy`	`front-end is jsp`
`07:47.09`	`Tordy`	`yea`
`07:47.19`	`MagicSynthesis`	`ok, i was gonna say`
`07:47.39`	`Tordy`	`iunno this is my first time doing this so i dont knwo any alternatives`
`07:48.03`	`MagicSynthesis`	`honestly, i'd download some open source web app`
`07:48.16`	`MagicSynthesis`	`using as many of the same tech as you are`
`07:48.18`	`Tordy`	`well it's too late now`
`07:48.23`	`Tordy`	`or maybe not`
`07:48.25`	`MagicSynthesis`	`and look at it`
`07:48.37`	`MagicSynthesis`	`to help figure out why yours wont work`
`07:48.39`	`Tordy`	`gotta get some parsing done`
`07:49.03`	`Tordy`	`hi there`
`07:49.48`	`Tordy`	`that's it, gonna install everything`
`07:49.54`	`Tordy`	`see if that;'ll solve it`
`07:50.34`	`Tordy`	`SHITBEANS`
`07:54.21`	`Tordy`	`hi MagicSynthesis`
`07:55.37`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yo`
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`08:17.36`	`Tordy`	`hi there friends`
`08:50.26`	`Tordy`	`:]`
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`09:18.18`	`Syniq`	`Xapti: I mis-read it.`
`09:18.34`	`Syniq`	`Xapti: Annoyingly, I'm still in bronze. >.<`
`09:18.40`	`Syniq`	`I'm just miles ahead of everyone else.`
`09:18.44`	`Syniq`	`and massively tired. >.<`
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`10:02.25`	`Aedrix`	`Anyone have any suggestions for how to make a shop show different contents for different players?`
`10:03.15`	`Aedrix`	`I was initially thinking tech restrictions but since the shop is neutral it's based on the shop's team`
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`10:12.49`	`Pierrot`	`hi all.`
`10:13.51`	`Dekar`	`hi`
`10:20.45`	`Aussie123`	`im so hungry i could eat an ultralisk`
`10:20.58`	`Aussie123`	`juicy`
`10:23.30`	`Pierrot`	`I made a teleporter with en entrance and an exit. The current mechanic is the entrance gives a buff to a unit and the exit check for the buff on a unit. If the buff is present the the exit use its teleporting ability. My question is how can i link an exit to the entrance so that if i build more than one of each they don't operate between them`
`10:24.42`	`Aussie123`	`are u guys like me as in, keep doing a part of a map, get a new idea, do a part of that map, think of a new idea, do a part of that map, new idea, part of that map, new idea, part of that map.... and so on..`
`10:25.04`	`Aussie123`	`i have like 20 unfinished maps in my documents folder >.<`
`10:25.28`	`Pierrot`	`I used to. But i try to set goal`
`10:25.35`	`Pierrot`	`and stick to it`
`10:25.42`	`Aussie123`	`i give up too easily`
`10:25.53`	`Pierrot`	`try simple thing`
`10:25.53`	`Aussie123`	`i have finished 1 map, scv football`
`10:25.54`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i have issues with authority`
`10:26.08`	`MagicSynthesis`	`especially when said authority is myself`
`10:26.21`	`Aussie123`	`u have issues with ur self?`
`10:26.40`	`MagicSynthesis`	`that was a joke.`
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`10:26.53`	`Aussie123`	`i know i laughed`
`10:26.58`	`MagicSynthesis`	`really i just pop adderall until i get done what i've set out to complete ;)`
`10:28.08`	`Aussie123`	`i can only think of ideas wish i was good enough to actually finish them >.<`
`10:28.23`	`Aussie123`	`even the most simplest map`
`10:28.56`	`Aussie123`	`marine racing where u gotta keep clicking on ur marine faster than anyone else to get to the finish line`
`10:29.12`	`Aussie123`	`is too hard for me lol >.<`
`10:29.59`	`Aussie123`	`not that it would be popular anyway, cos of that stupid popularity contest for maps`
`10:30.04`	`Aussie123`	`in battle net`
`10:30.30`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah but it eats at you if you never finish anything`
`10:30.33`	`MagicSynthesis`	`trust me, i know`
`10:31.00`	`Aussie123`	`i finished 1 map in total so far`
`10:31.01`	`MagicSynthesis`	`you either need to A: have discipline somehow`
`10:31.07`	`MagicSynthesis`	`(no idea how that works)`
`10:31.23`	`MagicSynthesis`	`or B: delusion yourself into obsessing over it`
`10:31.36`	`MagicSynthesis`	`(aka, world is gonna end if i dont do this)`
`10:31.43`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i do that a lot`
`10:31.44`	`MagicSynthesis`	`it works`
`10:31.48`	`MagicSynthesis`	`or C: drugs`
`10:31.58`	`Aussie123`	`but im too creative ideas keep popping into my head it makes me want to make them instead :p`
`10:32.00`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol, easiest way`
`10:32.08`	`MagicSynthesis`	`but can cause other problems`
`10:32.58`	`Aussie123`	`i dont think drugs would be a good idea, when u snap out of it.. u could have made some embarrassing map and published it already :p`
`10:33.01`	`MagicSynthesis`	`well imagine back to say... school or whatever`
`10:33.10`	`MagicSynthesis`	`anytime you just HAD to finish something`
`10:33.16`	`MagicSynthesis`	`that you didnt really wanna do`
`10:33.28`	`Aussie123`	`im a high school drop out lol >.<`
`10:33.29`	`MagicSynthesis`	`imagine what i felt like towards the end when time was running out`
`10:33.34`	`MagicSynthesis`	`and you hadnt started yet`
`10:33.37`	`MagicSynthesis`	`the anxiety`
`10:33.53`	`MagicSynthesis`	`you just need to recreate that internally`
`10:34.17`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i was expelled from highschool`
`10:34.19`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol`
`10:34.47`	`Aussie123`	`i dont really remember finishing many assignments :p`
`10:35.09`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah...`
`10:35.12`	`Aussie123`	`i was always getting D's and even E's ha`
`10:35.19`	`MagicSynthesis`	`homework is for suckers anyway`
`10:35.48`	`Aussie123`	`i was good at one thing, spelling.`
`10:35.51`	`Aussie123`	`and computers`
`10:36.00`	`Aussie123`	`ICT`
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`10:37.32`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i also start lots of shit`
`10:37.45`	`MagicSynthesis`	`but the i guess the trick is to catch yourself`
`10:37.56`	`MagicSynthesis`	`and fall back to what you were supposed to be working on`
`10:39.01`	`MagicSynthesis`	`which isnt as hard as stopping yourself from jumping when the excitement about whatever new idea is at its peak`
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`10:59.03`	`Pierrot`	`How does marker work ?`
`11:05.54`	`Aedrix`	`ugh, why would command cards not show a submenu button?`
`11:06.01`	`Aedrix`	`seems like it should be an easy fix`
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`13:38.35`	`A1win`	`JManV, I didn't notice you did damage sharing using triggers :P if you do that, you can use the buried/cloaked/undetectable trick and make it all work perfectly fine`
`13:39.50`	`A1win`	`I'll post the solution in the thread`
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`13:53.30`	`A1win`	`JManV, except that... you'd need to share its vision with its enemies >.<`
`13:53.32`	`A1win`	`argh`
`13:54.26`	`A1win`	`why is it always something stupid :I`
`13:59.26`	`A1win`	`hmm but if you reduce the sight radius to 0 for enemies...`
`13:59.31`	`A1win`	`then it'll work :o`
`13:59.41`	`A1win`	`but not sure if you can do that per-unit`
`14:00.34`	`A1win`	`...though they'd still see the unit itself :X`
`14:00.54`	`A1win`	`so you'd need something to only share its vision when an enemy can actually see it or something >.>`
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`14:15.14`	`BorgDragon`	`oooh ya`
`14:15.16`	`BorgDragon`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzFE5MEkfnE`
`14:15.30`	`BorgDragon`	`I got my ship firing 5 beams at 5 different targets at once`
`14:15.34`	`BorgDragon`	`and now FINALLY`
`14:15.42`	`BorgDragon`	`i got it to randomly reacquire after every shot`
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`14:15.47`	`BorgDragon`	`so its not just the same 5 until they die`
`14:15.52`	`BorgDragon`	`Dryeyece`
`14:15.52`	`BorgDragon`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzFE5MEkfnE`
`14:16.01`	`BorgDragon`	`Randomly Reacquiring Targets ;)`
`14:16.05`	`Dryeyece`	`lol good morning to you too`
`14:16.09`	`BorgDragon`	`lol ;P`
`14:16.32`	`Dryeyece`	`not bad my friend`
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`14:16.46`	`Dryeyece`	`gimme just a sec I got one to challenge you with O.o`
`14:16.54`	`BorgDragon`	`lol kk`
`14:17.11`	`BorgDragon`	`I added a few more vids to my acct aswell`
`14:17.35`	`BorgDragon`	`I gave the overseers an attack, and attached a spore colony to its head`
`14:17.36`	`BorgDragon`	`hahaha`
`14:17.53`	`Dryeyece`	`lol`
`14:17.57`	`BorgDragon`	`one slight problem is the custom Site Ops doesnt wanna work`
`14:18.12`	`BorgDragon`	`so the attack laucnhes from the overseers actual head`
`14:18.16`	`Dryeyece`	`what site operation did you use and where did you put it?`
`14:18.29`	`BorgDragon`	`and not the weapon point of the Spore Colony(evne though I point to it...)`
`14:18.38`	`BorgDragon`	`for the spore colony?`
`14:18.47`	`BorgDragon`	`I believe I attached it to the... head`
`14:18.51`	`BorgDragon`	`and also a custom offset`
`14:18.59`	`Dryeyece`	`ProzaicMuze has a kickass turret attachment tutorial if you are trying to make the spore colony fire the missile`
`14:19.07`	`BorgDragon`	`so all that sticks out is a bit of the colony, and it's placed right above his main eye`
`14:19.10`	`BorgDragon`	`dude`
`14:19.17`	`BorgDragon`	`i used BOTH of his tutorials as base`
`14:19.23`	`BorgDragon`	`and remade my map from scratch 3 times`
`14:19.31`	`BorgDragon`	`all 3 times same result... shoots from the face of the overseer`
`14:19.33`	`BorgDragon`	`and not the colony`
`14:19.38`	`BorgDragon`	`everything is properly linked up too`
`14:19.43`	`BorgDragon`	`even had someone else look at my map`
`14:20.07`	`BorgDragon`	`it just doesn't want to agree with me`
`14:20.08`	`BorgDragon`	`hehe`
`14:20.17`	`Dryeyece`	`ok so which actor did you give the weapon firing ability to?`
`14:20.23`	`Dryeyece`	`err which unit`
`14:20.30`	`Dryeyece`	`did you give it to the host or the colony?`
`14:20.37`	`BorgDragon`	`colony actor`
`14:20.40`	`BorgDragon`	`custom actor`
`14:21.02`	`BorgDragon`	`dude, I went over it dozens of times`
`14:21.24`	`BorgDragon`	`Host -> AttachedColony: SOpAttachWeapon`
`14:21.35`	`BorgDragon`	`doesn't fuckign wanna work for me`
`14:21.52`	`Dryeyece`	`is this a test map that all you created on it was this unit?`
`14:21.59`	`BorgDragon`	`pretty much`
`14:22.06`	`BorgDragon`	`for the Weekly Data Exercise`
`14:22.12`	`BorgDragon`	`give the overseer a weapon`
`14:22.26`	`BorgDragon`	`but he has no attack animation so I figured i'd try out some more complicated Site Op work`
`14:22.35`	`BorgDragon`	`everything else works fine`
`14:22.44`	`BorgDragon`	`the colony "animates" when shooting`
`14:22.55`	`BorgDragon`	`it remains attached, moves with the overlord`
`14:23.05`	`BorgDragon`	`gets destroyed when overseer dies`
`14:23.15`	`Dryeyece`	`if you want you can send it tome and I will look at it but I can't make any promises I can fix it lol`
`14:23.19`	`BorgDragon`	`offset for the colony works fine`
`14:23.26`	`BorgDragon`	`i got a mediafire acct up`
`14:23.54`	`BorgDragon`	`http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?spfrphfntubqvyf`
`14:28.13`	`Dryeyece`	`k i making my tFHABP vid real quick and ill look at it`
`14:28.24`	`BorgDragon`	`tFHABP?`
`14:30.09`	`Dryeyece`	`Ten Feet HIgh and Bullet Proof`
`14:30.25`	`Dryeyece`	`its Agent 151's strongest move`
`14:30.30`	`BorgDragon`	`aaah`
`14:30.31`	`BorgDragon`	`nice`
`14:30.34`	`BorgDragon`	`I like the name`
`14:31.32`	`Dryeyece`	`=p`
`14:34.28`	`Dryeyece`	`4/6 Heroes backstory/wiki pages are up on my web-site 8-) http://thecantina.freeforums.org/index.php u can check out all sorts of inforamation about the characters and such`
`14:35.25`	`BorgDragon`	`muuuch better color layout`
`14:37.46`	`Dryeyece`	`I agree`
`14:37.47`	`Dryeyece`	`I redid the logo too`
`14:39.28`	`BorgDragon`	`i like midnight hour ;)`
`14:41.08`	`BorgDragon`	`I found a spelling mistake ;)`
`14:41.15`	`Dryeyece`	`k im checking out your guy now`
`14:41.27`	`Dryeyece`	`while my vid compresses`
`14:41.35`	`BorgDragon`	`in Neural Disruption Discharge description on the char data for midnight Hour`
`14:41.37`	`BorgDragon`	`you wrote`
`14:41.42`	`BorgDragon`	`Bang for your guck`
`14:41.42`	`BorgDragon`	`hehe`
`14:42.35`	`Dryeyece`	`right off the bat I can tell you it looks kickass`
`14:42.50`	`Dryeyece`	`I was trying to imagine what it looked like in my head but I was way off thats pretty cool actually`
`14:43.03`	`Dryeyece`	`lol`
`14:43.10`	`BorgDragon`	`lol :)`
`14:43.17`	`Dryeyece`	`post that on the forums so I don't forget if you would sir`
`14:43.27`	`BorgDragon`	`k k`
`14:44.17`	`Dryeyece`	`why doesnt the overseer have a turret?`
`14:44.44`	`Dryeyece`	`in the units tab, in the overseers fields I see he has a combat weapon but no combat turret`
`14:46.38`	`BorgDragon`	`the turret shoots 360`
`14:46.49`	`BorgDragon`	`I want my weapon to shoot 45 degrees only`
`14:46.56`	`BorgDragon`	`because it hangs forward and infront of his face`
`14:47.10`	`BorgDragon`	`so I did not give one to him`
`14:47.19`	`Dryeyece`	`you can change the direction a turret can shoot`
`14:47.28`	`BorgDragon`	`do I need a turret though?`
`14:47.36`	`Dryeyece`	`you can simply go into its unit tab and remove the "turnable flag"`
`14:47.38`	`BorgDragon`	`marines dont... neither do most units`
`14:47.45`	`BorgDragon`	`ah`
`14:47.48`	`Dryeyece`	`yes`
`14:47.59`	`BorgDragon`	`your shitting me?`
`14:48.06`	`Dryeyece`	`let me link you the tutorial im talking about and see if its the one you used because it doesn't look like it at all`
`14:48.13`	`BorgDragon`	`it is the one I used`
`14:48.18`	`BorgDragon`	`I just ignored the turret parts`
`14:48.26`	`BorgDragon`	`its the one with the Attachment Bunker/Turret`
`14:48.39`	`BorgDragon`	`with shields attached to it and it shoots "Beam Example" as a weapon`
`14:49.16`	`Dryeyece`	`yeh`
`14:49.21`	`BorgDragon`	`I don't see why the turret would do shit anyways`
`14:49.26`	`Dryeyece`	`you want to attahc this spore colony exactly like he did that turet to that bunker`
`14:49.33`	`BorgDragon`	`the Site Actor is tied to the ACTOR`
`14:49.35`	`BorgDragon`	`not the unit`
`14:49.37`	`Dryeyece`	`but he mentions in that tut how to make it so the turret can't turn`
`14:49.49`	`BorgDragon`	`ah well I didnt read that`
`14:49.53`	`BorgDragon`	`I basically did all the work myself`
`14:50.02`	`BorgDragon`	`then referenced how to attach the shit together`
`14:50.14`	`BorgDragon`	`and got it all working, except for the launch point`
`14:50.30`	`Dryeyece`	`readwhats under the Turets Tab portion of the tutorial`
`14:51.00`	`Dryeyece`	`"You can set these to whatever you'd prefer, but Idle controls the turrets action when not in combat, Yaw Arc controls its range of motion, Yaw Idle Rate is how quickly the turret rotates out of combat, Yaw Rate is how quickly the turret rotates in combat and Yaw Start determines the angle the turret begins facing.`
`14:51.27`	`BorgDragon`	`aaah`
`14:51.30`	`BorgDragon`	`Yaw Arc, then`
`14:51.36`	`Dryeyece`	`hehe`
`14:51.36`	`Dryeyece`	`yeah`
`14:51.43`	`BorgDragon`	`cool`
`14:51.48`	`BorgDragon`	`that's at least something useful`
`14:51.50`	`Dryeyece`	`but that stuff will only work if you change the way you have this all done`
`14:51.58`	`BorgDragon`	`by attaching a turret ?`
`14:52.00`	`Dryeyece`	`see right now all youve got is a model animation, with no unit`
`14:52.05`	`Dryeyece`	`to make it a turret you have to use a unit`
`14:52.17`	`BorgDragon`	`that that still don't make sense :\`
`14:52.21`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`14:52.23`	`BorgDragon`	`i'll try it though`
`14:52.34`	`BorgDragon`	`to me, it seems like the Site Actor is just attached to another actor`
`14:52.41`	`BorgDragon`	`even in the tutorial`
`14:52.51`	`BorgDragon`	`and he uses the turret`
`14:52.58`	`BorgDragon`	`so he could get it animating/spinning`
`14:52.58`	`Dryeyece`	`he uses something called Turret Z`
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`14:53.03`	`BorgDragon`	`yep`
`14:53.06`	`BorgDragon`	`its an attach point`
`14:53.09`	`BorgDragon`	`that overlords don't have`
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`14:53.10`	`BorgDragon`	`:P`
`14:53.31`	`Dryeyece`	`I know the overseers combat weapon needs to be the turret you attach`
`14:53.50`	`BorgDragon`	`ya, that's basic stuff to do`
`14:53.53`	`Dryeyece`	`or you could just offset the launch to make it look like the spore colony is attacking`
`14:53.56`	`Dryeyece`	`I got an idea`
`14:53.59`	`Dryeyece`	`wait`
`14:54.27`	`BorgDragon`	`eeeh, offsetting the launch point seems hackish lol`
`14:54.35`	`BorgDragon`	`I'm going to try the turret bit`
`14:56.37`	`Dryeyece`	`ok check this out`
`14:57.04`	`Dryeyece`	`nvm im working something out in my brain first just a sec lol`
`14:58.27`	`BorgDragon`	`lol kk`
`14:58.28`	`Jygga`	`can somkebody tell me what "dependencies could not be validated" means when trying to start a game vs AI ?`
`14:58.44`	`Dryeyece`	`I maked it work`
`14:58.45`	`Jygga`	`also, some of the map pictures look very low res`
`14:58.57`	`Dryeyece`	`nope you dont have to do anything but fiddle with some actors`
`14:58.59`	`Dryeyece`	`you there?`
`14:59.18`	`BorgDragon`	`ta`
`14:59.20`	`BorgDragon`	`ya`
`14:59.47`	`BorgDragon`	`no idea Jygga`
`15:02.46`	`Jygga`	`where does sc2 put downloaded maps?`
`15:04.18`	`Jygga`	`oh in the cache okay`
`15:06.36`	`Jygga`	`it certainly is cryptic`
`15:11.24`	`Jygga`	`http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2620/maperror.jpg`
`15:11.31`	`Jygga`	`got that for several maps`
`15:11.52`	`Jygga`	`mostly stock maps`
`15:17.06`	`A1win`	`mm me too`
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`15:35.31`	`Jygga`	`i think its rather outrageous that it takes 1-2 minutes to load the map lists ...`
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`15:57.07`	`Dustin`	`Oh Hai guys`
`16:00.11`	`BorgDragon`	`~seen ProzaicMuze`
`16:00.18`	`purl`	`prozaicmuze <~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 22d 14h 4m 7s ago, saying: 'talk abotu delay'.`
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`16:05.35`	`BDmon`	`hi`
`16:05.51`	`BorgDragon`	`roars and thumps his chest proudly!`
`16:06.23`	`Dustin`	`hi`
`16:06.28`	`BDmon`	`sup Dustin`
`16:06.40`	`Dustin`	`Not much, workin on the map a bit`
`16:06.47`	`BDmon`	`cool`
`16:06.57`	`BDmon`	`i was just redoing some triggers when it crashed`
`16:07.02`	`BDmon`	`have to figure out what i lost :(`
`16:07.14`	`BDmon`	`what editor in this day and age doesn't have auto save ffs`
`16:08.24`	`BorgDragon`	`it DOES`
`16:09.06`	`BDmon`	`oi ur right`
`16:09.10`	`BDmon`	`slaps BDmon`
`16:09.20`	`BDmon`	`why is it off`
`16:09.21`	`BDmon`	`:(`
`16:09.24`	`BorgDragon`	`helps BDmon slap BDmon, and thinks purl will too.`
`16:09.30`	`BorgDragon`	`~purl slap BDmon`
`16:09.30`	`purl`	`ACTION slaps BDmon, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`16:09.32`	`BDmon`	`uhoh`
`16:09.34`	`BDmon`	`darn`
`16:10.03`	`Dustin`	`lol`
`16:10.17`	`Dustin`	`Ima go play that Chrono Agents map`
`16:10.23`	`Dustin`	`Havent tried it yet heard it was cool`
`16:10.27`	`Dustin`	`Anyone else US want to join me?`
`16:11.03`	`BDmon`	`soz EU here`
`16:11.15`	`Dustin`	`:(`
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`16:23.16`	`BDmon`	`a function can return 2 values right`
`16:23.37`	`BDmon`	`in an array`
`16:24.13`	`Dryeyece`	`it can call all of the values the array holds`
`16:24.33`	`Dryeyece`	`unless im mistaken, if you have an array of size 5, 5, 5, 5, you can access all of those from the function`
`16:24.35`	`BDmon`	`well its not what i ment but i fixed it`
`16:24.58`	`Dryeyece`	`ohh hehe I missed everything before that I just logged on =p`
`16:25.13`	`BDmon`	`i was wondering how to do the return while its only one argument u can return`
`16:25.17`	`BDmon`	`but have to return an array aswell`
`16:25.28`	`BDmon`	`didnt say anything before :P`
`16:25.30`	`Dryeyece`	`oh`
`16:25.50`	`Dryeyece`	`a function can return 2 values right was all I caight lol`
`16:26.14`	`BDmon`	`ye its all is said`
`16:26.16`	`BDmon`	`i*`
`16:26.23`	`BDmon`	`hmm`
`16:26.54`	`BDmon`	`now it says return arrayName[0]`
`16:27.00`	`BDmon`	`but i wanna return the whole array`
`16:27.02`	`BDmon`	`:\|`
`16:27.29`	`BDmon`	`ffs i fixed this before but lost it and cant remember how i did this :(`
`16:30.54`	`Dryeyece`	`that makes me think the array hasnt been set`
`16:31.07`	`Dustin`	`wtf`
`16:31.14`	`BDmon`	`it has but u cant return the whole array`
`16:31.17`	`Dustin`	`I cant find that Chrono Agents map on bnet ANYWHERE`
`16:31.22`	`Dryeyece`	`look at your variable and see what value maximums are set in each part of the array`
`16:31.32`	`Dustin`	`This system is so fucking retarted`
`16:31.45`	`BDmon`	`its only got 2 values`
`16:32.04`	`Dryeyece`	`thats just weird then thats never happened to me if I use an array whatever subsections I have maximum values for are available in the functions when they are called`
`16:32.53`	`BDmon`	`no i got a function which gets a unit, then i find out what the units current weapon and armor are`
`16:33.01`	`BDmon`	`i want to return both weapon and armor units`
`16:33.13`	`Dryeyece`	`that array wold need 3 values`
`16:33.26`	`BDmon`	`why`
`16:33.31`	`Dryeyece`	`each variant upon how many weapons / armor/ units that are being used by the varable there are`
`16:33.36`	`Dryeyece`	`one value to hold the unit`
`16:33.38`	`Dryeyece`	`one to hold the weapon`
`16:33.41`	`Dryeyece`	`and one to hold that armor`
`16:33.45`	`BDmon`	`no the unit is passed to the function`
`16:33.47`	`BDmon`	`as a parameter`
`16:33.53`	`Dryeyece`	`then 2`
`16:34.11`	`BDmon`	`and i want to return the array`
`16:34.26`	`BDmon`	`but when i do return and select the array it says arrayName[0]`
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`16:34.29`	`Dryeyece`	`what are the values in the array?`
`16:34.33`	`BDmon`	`but i wanna return arrayName as a whole`
`16:34.35`	`Dryeyece`	`in the variable itself?`
`16:34.37`	`BDmon`	`2 units`
`16:34.43`	`Dryeyece`	`cant do that`
`16:34.45`	`Dryeyece`	`I dont think`
`16:34.50`	`Dryeyece`	`I have to call each value of mine`
`16:34.58`	`Dryeyece`	`because I dont know any other way myself lol`
`16:35.01`	`Dryeyece`	`now I see what you mean`
`16:35.11`	`BDmon`	`its abit limiting really`
`16:35.18`	`BDmon`	`and u cant do 2x return either`
`16:35.23`	`Dryeyece`	`so you want to call it and all of its subsets also`
`16:35.29`	`BDmon`	`huh?`
`16:35.48`	`Dryeyece`	`well no I mean I do destroy dialogue box 0, 0 1, then next line destroys 0, 0 2 etc`
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`16:36.06`	`MKmisfit`	`there are structs but i dont think u can return those either, unless they fixes it`
`16:36.10`	`Dryeyece`	`and id rather be able to call the whole array and destroy all the bo=xes with one go`
`16:36.23`	`Dryeyece`	`but I cant and thats what your trying to do is access the whole array at once`
`16:36.37`	`Dryeyece`	`I just didnt understand hwat you meant exactly at first I was misinterpreting`
`16:36.43`	`MKmisfit`	`could you just make the array a global`
`16:37.02`	`Dryeyece`	`that woldnt change being able to call the whole thing`
`16:37.05`	`BDmon`	`MKmisfit i had that but I got 8 players`
`16:37.48`	`Dryeyece`	`if you added another value to represent the player you could do it`
`16:38.08`	`BDmon`	`I guess i just have to make 2 seperate functions`
`16:38.15`	`Dryeyece`	`use in the first value box 8 and when the array is called use the function owner of triggering unit or w/e u need to access the players integer`
`16:38.17`	`BDmon`	`but they do the same thing basicly so it sucks`
`16:38.18`	`Dryeyece`	`maybe?`
`16:38.43`	`BDmon`	`i dont understand lol`
`16:38.53`	`Dryeyece`	`yeah my dialog boxes all do smae but I gotta make em for each player seperately`
`16:39.15`	`Dryeyece`	`so in every array I have the first value is 5 since theres 5 players max in my game`
`16:39.33`	`Dryeyece`	`and the first integer of the array henever I call it I use a function that calls the players integer`
`16:39.45`	`MKmisfit`	`you can set the same dialog item to be different for each player.... like set item text for each player seperatly`
`16:39.52`	`Dryeyece`	`like owner of triggering unit, triggering player, picked player etc any function that will call the specific players integer will work`
`16:40.11`	`BDmon`	`ok gonna try something brb`
`16:40.15`	`BDmon`	`thnx for the input :]`
`16:40.40`	`Dryeyece`	`I hopr it helps I cantmake any promises thouh im just tossing ideas out there for ya =p\`
`16:40.45`	`MKmisfit`	`anyone want to play my mario kart map`
`16:41.15`	`Dryeyece`	`I is too laggy wit my internet but I ould play it in single player if its published publicly and I can DL it 8)`
`16:41.27`	`MKmisfit`	`im still looking for a partner to work on it`
`16:41.33`	`Dryeyece`	`ahh`
`16:41.53`	`Dryeyece`	`yeah my satellite connection cant handle FPS or WASD style games`
`16:41.53`	`MKmisfit`	`it is published publicly, its locked tho if that makes a difference`
`16:42.03`	`Dryeyece`	`no`
`16:42.10`	`Dryeyece`	`I could still do single player vs AI to play it`
`16:42.34`	`Dryeyece`	`its how I play any b.net games since my lags so bad so I can only play single player possible games lol`
`16:42.41`	`MKmisfit`	`its called SC Rally, if your interested...`
`16:42.44`	`Dryeyece`	`meaning you can play it with one person and still complete it`
`16:42.56`	`Dryeyece`	`like a lot of the TD maps and stuff I cant do cuz you have to have partners`
`16:43.00`	`Dryeyece`	`I have played it`
`16:43.06`	`MKmisfit`	`the wasd shouldnt matter but the graphics do matter, it lags for some people..`
`16:43.10`	`MKmisfit`	`oh cool`
`16:43.12`	`Dryeyece`	`I have it DLd and its cool but hard to move sometimes`
`16:43.17`	`Dryeyece`	`or was the last tie I played`
`16:43.30`	`MKmisfit`	`im just looking for someone to race against lol`
`16:43.32`	`Dryeyece`	`it was either the game or my mouse I dont know which`
`16:43.47`	`Dryeyece`	`I wish I had good internet man I would so race you`
`16:43.57`	`Dryeyece`	`we can try...`
`16:44.06`	`Dryeyece`	`my lag may not interfere with you this early in the morning its not too bad`
`16:44.16`	`MKmisfit`	`turn your graphics down`
`16:44.22`	`Dryeyece`	`k`
`16:44.34`	`Dryeyece`	`i gotta log in to get my number thingie`
`16:44.52`	`MKmisfit`	`im in the lobby u can just join, its on page 4`
`16:45.36`	`Dryeyece`	`I spend all my time in the editor lol`
`16:45.39`	`Dryeyece`	`k`
`16:45.49`	`Dryeyece`	`lemme see if I can get my buddy to come too`
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`17:06.03`	`MKmisfit`	`dryeyece when u get back can u point out that setting for wasd response time or link that tutorial`
`17:07.20`	`Dryeyece`	`yeah`
`17:07.25`	`Dryeyece`	`it is umm`
`17:08.47`	`Dryeyece`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/10104-tutorial-lagless-wasd-system-using-data-editor/`
`17:09.10`	`MKmisfit`	`ok thx for ur time man, lemme know if u need help on anything`
`17:11.18`	`Dryeyece`	`u could play my game...=p`
`17:12.49`	`MKmisfit`	`sure ill play`
`17:13.20`	`Dryeyece`	`the cantina : drunken bounty hunter rpg`
`17:13.51`	`MKmisfit`	`i was looking at that tutorial, its interesting im not gonna use it tho... my map is actually tracking the mouse which is different anyway.... the gas key is always down it even has cruise control`
`17:14.15`	`Dryeyece`	`aye`
`17:14.22`	`Dryeyece`	`I need to change mine though`
`17:14.24`	`Dryeyece`	`back to normal`
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`17:20.01`	`MKmisfit`	`everyone should take the press key to continue off thier load screen`
`17:20.24`	`Dryeyece`	`i have i just need to implement it`
`17:20.30`	`Dryeyece`	`which is ocming in a major patch soon`
`17:21.34`	`Dekar`	`what escape character does SC2 use for strings?`
`17:24.12`	`MKmisfit`	`there is \ before " or another \.... or if u want a return its </n>`
`17:24.48`	`MKmisfit`	`there is some extra escapes in the xml i dont know them`
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`17:30.52`	`BDmon`	`can anyone help me with abit of math here? :] not my strongest point`
`17:31.00`	`MKmisfit`	`what u need`
`17:31.11`	`BDmon`	`i got weapons with a custom value 1 to 5`
`17:31.25`	`BDmon`	`i go through the inventory items pick each item`
`17:31.34`	`BDmon`	`i want it to switch if its bigger`
`17:31.48`	`BDmon`	`but if its the highest, i want it to pick the lowest :]`
`17:33.17`	`BDmon`	`so i got now if val of picked unit = val of current weapon + 1 => switch weapon`
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`17:34.07`	`BDmon`	`i guess i gotta store lowest in a var and another boolean to set if its switched... if not change to lowest`
`17:34.19`	`MKmisfit`	`well it should probly be if value of picked unit > val of current weapon`
`17:34.32`	`MKmisfit`	`instead of +1 and >=`
`17:34.38`	`BDmon`	`ye but then it can switch from weapon 1 to weapon 5 if that's first in inventory`
`17:35.11`	`BDmon`	`and i dont want it to switch weapon 1 for weapon 1 :P`
`17:35.14`	`MKmisfit`	`also you should maybe set a flag if you find a higher one, also keep track of the lowest one, and afterward if you didnt find a higher one, use the lowest one`
`17:35.24`	`BDmon`	`yea ok`
`17:35.26`	`BDmon`	`that's what i thought`
`17:35.43`	`BDmon`	`maybe there was an easier way but seems to be the right way`
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`17:40.31`	`MKmisfit`	`but if you want it to switch to the next highest one instead of absolute highest thats different`
`17:41.27`	`MKmisfit`	`in that case you need to keep track of the lowest item that is still higher than current, and the abolute lowest, and if you didnt find a higher one use the lowest`
`17:41.28`	`BDmon`	`nah just want to cycle through from 1 to 5`
`17:41.48`	`BDmon`	`think its good now`
`17:41.59`	`Dustin`	`What are some good 2player co-op maps`
`17:42.19`	`BDmon`	`jup works like a charm :P`
`17:42.21`	`BDmon`	`thanks though`
`17:42.29`	`BDmon`	`oh`
`17:42.32`	`BDmon`	`crash :]`
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`18:18.30`	`BDmon`	`how can u check if key pressed is shift+X`
`18:18.56`	`BDmon`	`hmm with and condition?`
`18:20.06`	`RoarMan`	`No`
`18:20.21`	`BDmon`	`well u can in the event`
`18:20.25`	`BDmon`	`shift required`
`18:20.28`	`RoarMan`	`BDmon you can use the event that checks key press`
`18:20.38`	`BDmon`	`but I want 1 event for all key presses`
`18:20.38`	`RoarMan`	`It lets you check for Alt, Shift and Ctrl`
`18:20.56`	`BDmon`	`as 2 events sends 2 requests to server or something`
`18:21.17`	`BDmon`	`shouldn't matter with my map but that was a problem for asdw movement if i'm correct`
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`18:23.09`	`Demonette`	`Hi guy`
`18:23.10`	`Demonette`	`s`
`18:23.22`	`Demonette`	`need some help =P`
`18:23.23`	`BDmon`	`hey Demonette`
`18:23.26`	`BDmon`	`sup`
`18:23.47`	`Demonette`	`Uhm...`
`18:23.58`	`Demonette`	`was something about a racing map`
`18:24.08`	`BDmon`	`lol?`
`18:24.15`	`Demonette`	`and i'm unsure how to implement the "speed"-value`
`18:24.21`	`BDmon`	`ah`
`18:24.25`	`BDmon`	`of the car?`
`18:24.30`	`Demonette`	`well at the moment i can drive around with my vulture`
`18:24.38`	`Demonette`	`and i added a booster`
`18:24.38`	`BDmon`	`lol sweet`
`18:24.43`	`Demonette`	`so i can speed him up`
`18:25.16`	`Demonette`	`but i'm think about a system to control the normal movement speed`
`18:25.48`	`BDmon`	`with acceleration?`
`18:25.51`	`Demonette`	`like i can drive at any speed value between a max and a min value`
`18:26.01`	`BDmon`	`how u control it then`
`18:26.27`	`Demonette`	`Yea... not sure...`
`18:26.39`	`BDmon`	`cos racing games now are the same`
`18:26.39`	`A1win`	`acceleration/deceleration ;p`
`18:26.47`	`Demonette`	`at the moment i got a simple move forward on pressing w`
`18:26.54`	`BDmon`	`if u have a gas pedal u can drive half the max speed`
`18:26.55`	`Demonette`	`yea`
`18:27.01`	`BDmon`	`if u have keyboard its full on or off`
`18:27.02`	`Demonette`	`=P`
`18:27.07`	`BDmon`	`no half :]`
`18:27.28`	`BDmon`	`so then doing that is not going to change much or I'm missing something`
`18:27.35`	`Demonette`	`=( but i want acceleration and deceleration with a keyboard`
`18:27.44`	`BDmon`	`well the unit has acceleration in DE`
`18:27.51`	`Demonette`	`maybe i can increase the speed over time?`
`18:27.57`	`BDmon`	`should be deceleration no`
`18:27.58`	`BDmon`	`?`
`18:28.11`	`A1win`	`Demonette, that's what acceleration is :P`
`18:28.21`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh`
`18:28.27`	`BDmon`	`hehe`
`18:28.41`	`BDmon`	`Demonette change the acceleration of the unit to something high`
`18:28.46`	`Demonette`	`You can look at many views at it...`
`18:29.07`	`BDmon`	`would be nice to have deceleration to create ice effect :P`
`18:29.10`	`Demonette`	`and if i set something like...`
`18:29.14`	`Demonette`	`steps?`
`18:29.26`	`Demonette`	`like speed 1 speed... no that sucks`
`18:29.29`	`Demonette`	`sigh`
`18:29.31`	`BDmon`	`well u could do with triggers`
`18:29.44`	`BDmon`	`set timers to up the speed var`
`18:29.49`	`BDmon`	`if u can link it to the unit`
`18:29.53`	`BDmon`	`or set its speed`
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`18:30.33`	`BDmon`	`but if u can set its acceleration/deceleration in DE ur done alot quicker`
`18:30.33`	`A1win`	`make an upgrade that increases the speed by a little and then just add/subtract levels from the upgrade for acceleration/deceleration :P`
`18:30.55`	`A1win`	`meh dunno`
`18:31.14`	`Demonette`	`well a low speed level would be great for areas with very many blocking elements...`
`18:31.24`	`BDmon`	`Movement - Deceleration0`
`18:31.48`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh i could stack behaviour in the same way =P think they would be a better use then upgrades`
`18:32.03`	`A1win`	`maybe when you press w it sets the upgrade level to a certain minimum speed and then starts adding to it while you hold w, and when you release w, it starts removing the level until speed goes to 0 and the unit stops.. and then you can do breaks that decrease it faster ;o`
`18:32.11`	`A1win`	`mm true`
`18:32.19`	`BDmon`	`Demonette so u want like gears`
`18:32.45`	`BDmon`	`man there IS acceleration/deceleration in DE for that`
`18:33.02`	`A1win`	`yeah but it won't keep the unit moving if you stop the movement ;p`
`18:33.03`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh`
`18:33.04`	`BDmon`	`why remake it? :P`
`18:33.10`	`BDmon`	`it doesnt?`
`18:33.14`	`A1win`	`dunno :P`
`18:33.16`	`BDmon`	`what's deceleration for then`
`18:33.20`	`BDmon`	`u never use it with clicking`
`18:33.25`	`BDmon`	`but with asdw movement u should`
`18:33.33`	`Demonette`	`and then i add a break...`
`18:33.36`	`A1win`	`maybe it starts decelerating before it reaches the end point`
`18:33.37`	`BDmon`	`hehe`
`18:33.44`	`BDmon`	`could be`
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`18:33.56`	`Demonette`	`yea could be a solution`
`18:33.57`	`BDmon`	`well i guess demonette's not going to try`
`18:33.59`	`BDmon`	`ah`
`18:34.08`	`Demonette`	`to try what?`
`18:34.36`	`Demonette`	`I like the version with the slowly increasing speed`
`18:34.58`	`Dryeyece`	`http://thecantina.freeforums.org/new-hero-selection-screen-t24.html , muh new hero selection screen`
`18:35.01`	`Demonette`	`until the key wents up...`
`18:35.12`	`BDmon`	`set acceleration in data editor low`
`18:35.44`	`Demonette`	`So in which way the speed should increase? exponential? XD`
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`18:43.18`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh so no suggestions...`
`18:45.01`	`Bounty`	`for waht`
`18:45.35`	`Demonette`	`So in which way the speed should increase? exponential? XD`
`18:47.11`	`Demonette`	`of a vulture...`
`18:47.42`	`A1win`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_car there's a place to start, maybe there's a link to car physics somewhere :P`
`18:48.39`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh a vulture doesn't has ground contact... how should it drive like a normal car? XD`
`18:49.01`	`A1win`	`oh o: I thought it had wheels`
`18:49.28`	`A1win`	`yup... nevermind ;P`
`18:50.02`	`A1win`	`what kind of breaks does it have anyway? O_o`
`18:50.34`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh`
`18:51.06`	`A1win`	`backwards thrusters? :P`
`18:51.26`	`Demonette`	`Kind a?`
`18:51.43`	`Demonette`	`Well it uses ... turbines or similar...`
`18:52.18`	`A1win`	`well anyway... I guess it's simpler than a car then ;p`
`18:52.34`	`Demonette`	`yea =D`
`18:52.39`	`A1win`	`don't need to care about friction and stuff`
`18:52.39`	`Demonette`	`Back and forth...`
`18:52.58`	`Demonette`	`well i think i'm glad that it's already move =D`
`18:53.04`	`A1win`	`just air resistance`
`18:53.33`	`Demonette`	`I'm not sure about the granadelauncher as well...`
`18:53.50`	`Demonette`	`never made missiles that don't use a target`
`18:55.48`	`A1win`	`is it possible to pause the entire game for a cutscene?`
`18:55.57`	`A1win`	`or do I have to put triggers and stuff on pause manually`
`18:56.44`	`Dustin`	`=/`
`18:57.30`	`Dustin`	`People not letting other people upload their map to a different region because they are scared the people are gonna think the uploader made make me sad. :(`
`18:57.48`	`A1win`	`:3`
`18:58.30`	`A1win`	`hmm that reminds me... how do I localize my texts?`
`18:59.15`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Doom (48e0fe28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.224.254.40)`
`18:59.22`	`Doom`	`hihi`
`18:59.28`	`Doom`	`sixen?`
`19:00.16`	`Doom`	`ok does anyone know how to add people to your team?`
`19:00.18`	`Doom`	`xD`
`19:00.33`	`A1win`	`what team?`
`19:00.53`	`Doom`	`Lunar Enchantments`
`19:00.56`	`Doom`	`xD`
`19:01.19`	`A1win`	`yeah but where :P`
`19:01.28`	`Doom`	`XD`
`19:01.39`	`Doom`	`how do i get someone to join`
`19:01.39`	`Doom`	`xD`
`19:01.50`	`A1win`	`on sc2mapster or what?`
`19:01.58`	`Doom`	`sc 2 mapster`
`19:01.59`	`Doom`	`xD`
`19:02.04`	`Bounty`	`xD`
`19:02.05`	`Bounty`	`Xd`
`19:02.08`	`Bounty`	`xD`
`19:02.12`	`Bounty`	`X`
`19:02.16`	`MagicSynthesis`	`srsly.`
`19:02.16`	`Bounty`	`D`
`19:02.20`	`A1win`	`:> didn't even know it had a system like that`
`19:02.45`	`Doom`	`im the owner of lunar enchanments`
`19:02.55`	`Doom`	`and someone mesged me asking to join`
`19:03.04`	`Doom`	`idk how to let em in`
`19:03.06`	`Doom`	`xD`
`19:03.37`	`A1win`	`try the person's profile page? or the team's page?`
`19:03.50`	`Doom`	`i tryed`
`19:05.05`	`Doom`	`sixen`
`19:05.12`	`Doom`	`i needs u ~~~~~`
`19:05.16`	`Doom`	`xD`
`19:05.44`	`*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210)`
`19:05.55`	`Doom`	`programer`
`19:06.02`	`Doom`	`can u help me`
`19:06.12`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Vail (~kvirc@tx-71-52-73-170.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)`
`19:06.24`	`Doom`	`[11:02] <Doom> im the owner of lunar enchanments [11:02] <Doom> and someone mesged me asking to join [11:03] <Doom> idk how to let em in`
`19:06.46`	`progammer`	`join what`
`19:06.46`	`Doom`	`my team`
`19:06.55`	`Doom`	`lunar enchantments`
`19:06.57`	`progammer`	`on mapster ?`
`19:07.00`	`progammer`	`give me the team link`
`19:07.00`	`Doom`	`yeah`
`19:07.11`	`Doom`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/teams/lunar_enchantments/`
`19:07.25`	`progammer`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/teams/lunar_enchantments/forum/assign-roles/`
`19:07.31`	`progammer`	`or click on the right panel`
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`19:08.06`	`Doom`	`and i just put his name there?`
`19:08.29`	`progammer`	`yep and tick the role you want`
`19:08.35`	`Doom`	`kk`
`19:08.40`	`Doom`	`hes a texturer`
`19:08.41`	`Doom`	`xD`
`19:08.51`	`progammer`	`damn it bejeweled 3 is coming out... it looks even more addictive`
`19:08.55`	`Bounty`	`Can you flip a unit on the fly?`
`19:09.00`	`Bounty`	`like upside down`
`19:09.07`	`progammer`	`site ops`
`19:09.15`	`progammer`	`nothing for a trigger whore sorry`
`19:09.22`	`Bounty`	`blow me dick`
`19:09.27`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol`
`19:09.28`	`Bounty`	`jsut a simple question`
`19:11.01`	`Doom`	`lol`
`19:11.46`	`A1win`	`so... can I somehow pause my map during a cutscene so that triggers and everything waits until it's over?`
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`19:12.30`	`Matt438`	`You could set a boolean and put wait for conditions (boolean == true)`
`19:12.52`	`A1win`	`between every action? :P`
`19:13.00`	`Matt438`	`wait for conditions pauses the current trigger in execution, I'm not sure that it prevents new ones though`
`19:13.03`	`progammer`	`lol bejewled relieve stress with 1 game mode`
`19:13.40`	`Matt438`	`You could put conditions in every event, but there is probably a much easier way to do it o_O`
`19:14.05`	`A1win`	`hopefully ;p`
`19:14.08`	`A1win`	`I got lots of triggers`
`19:14.09`	`Bounty`	`Do your triggers use elapsed game time or something?`
`19:14.16`	`A1win`	`nope`
`19:14.16`	`Bounty`	`If not i dont see the problem`
`19:14.21`	`Bounty`	`Then just turn them off`
`19:14.22`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`19:14.28`	`Bounty`	`until the cutscene is over`
`19:14.34`	`A1win`	`then they will not continue after the cutscene`
`19:14.43`	`A1win`	`the ones that are already in progress`
`19:14.49`	`Bounty`	`how?`
`19:14.55`	`Bounty`	`what do they do?`
`19:15.02`	`A1win`	`attack waves for example`
`19:15.17`	`A1win`	`update a progress bar for the next attack wave`
`19:15.31`	`MagicSynthesis`	`you probably want to use TriggerQueuePause`
`19:15.31`	`A1win`	`count down a timer for the next zone activation`
`19:15.36`	`A1win`	`mmh`
`19:16.01`	`A1win`	`action queue?`
`19:16.16`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah, actions`
`19:16.33`	`A1win`	`Pausing the Action Queue does not pause an action in the queue that is currently running, but will prevent subsequent actions from running until the queue is unpaused.`
`19:16.43`	`MagicSynthesis`	`as in all the methods without your triggers`
`19:16.44`	`A1win`	`but yeah I suppose that will do the trick`
`19:17.15`	`A1win`	`then pause all units`
`19:18.10`	`A1win`	`hmm my timer still kept counting`
`19:18.20`	`A1win`	`even though it's updated using actions :S`
`19:18.47`	`MagicSynthesis`	`make a new action defintion called pause fscking everything`
`19:18.52`	`MagicSynthesis`	`then search for the word pause`
`19:18.57`	`MagicSynthesis`	`throw it all in there ;)`
`19:19.20`	`A1win`	`:x`
`19:20.08`	`A1win`	`I don't see any other pause actions that would be much useful`
`19:20.40`	`MagicSynthesis`	`stuff like cooldowns and whatnot`
`19:20.46`	`A1win`	`oh... is loops considered just one action?`
`19:20.47`	`MagicSynthesis`	`maybe needed, maybe not`
`19:21.05`	`A1win`	`*are`
`19:21.14`	`MagicSynthesis`	`depends on the loop`
`19:21.23`	`A1win`	`it's a repeat forever loop`
`19:21.40`	`MagicSynthesis`	`well no, that would be multiple`
`19:21.49`	`A1win`	`but it keeps running while the action queue is paused`
`19:22.06`	`MagicSynthesis`	`you sure?`
`19:22.15`	`A1win`	`yeah, I can see it on the UI ;p`
`19:22.28`	`MagicSynthesis`	`is it executing the actions within the loop?`
`19:22.32`	`A1win`	`I made a trigger that pauses action queue when I type ".pause" but the UI still shows the timer`
`19:22.36`	`A1win`	`eh`
`19:22.45`	`A1win`	`it didn't even pause my attack waves`
`19:23.05`	`A1win`	`looks like it didn't really pause anything :P`
`19:23.10`	`A1win`	`everything is still running`
`19:23.19`	`A1win`	`attack waves, timed hints etc.`
`19:23.20`	`MagicSynthesis`	`well you might have to pause the timer`
`19:23.27`	`A1win`	`it's not a timer`
`19:23.42`	`A1win`	`it's just a value that is updated periodically inside the repeat forever loop`
`19:24.10`	`MagicSynthesis`	`that's weird`
`19:24.15`	`A1win`	`does the action queue pause even work x.x`
`19:25.04`	`A1win`	`maybe it's because I turned cinematic mode on first :P`
`19:25.09`	`MagicSynthesis`	`try typing '.pause please''`
`19:25.21`	`MagicSynthesis`	`that usually works for me`
`19:25.27`	`MagicSynthesis`	`;)`
`19:25.43`	`A1win`	`mmh no wasn't the cinematic mode...`
`19:25.44`	`BDmon`	`how can u find where this is`
`19:25.45`	`BDmon`	`[11/21/2010 8:24:43 PM] Warning: Orphaned trigger parameter removed from Function Call 'Comparison' (Parameter Value, E6F240C3, Lib: 0)`
`19:26.22`	`MagicSynthesis`	`search for 'E6F240C3' in gamestrings`
`19:26.32`	`BDmon`	`ah`
`19:26.42`	`MagicSynthesis`	`and hope it's in there ;)`
`19:27.02`	`BDmon`	`where's that`
`19:28.02`	`BDmon`	`brb cooking :]`
`19:28.57`	`A1win`	`what the action queue even is? :S`
`19:29.45`	`A1win`	`I can pause units and mission time but I can't pause triggers that are already running without interrupting them completely`
`19:30.53`	`A1win`	`a lot of my time-based functionality is handled by a loop that increments a "game time" variable once a second though... maybe I should just make everything depend on that and just pause it when I want to pause stuff ;p`
`19:31.22`	`A1win`	`or add a "if not paused" check to all my loops...`
`19:32.01`	`MagicSynthesis`	`why dont you use a timer?`
`19:32.42`	`MagicSynthesis`	`would be real easy to pause that`
`19:32.54`	`MagicSynthesis`	`not to mention it would perform a hell of a lot better`
`19:33.09`	`A1win`	`nto sure how I'd do it with a timer`
`19:33.13`	`A1win`	`*not`
`19:33.27`	`MagicSynthesis`	`same way as you'd do a variable`
`19:33.39`	`MagicSynthesis`	`only difference is it counts down for you`
`19:33.53`	`A1win`	`but I can't fire events based on what time it's at?`
`19:34.08`	`MagicSynthesis`	`sure you can`
`19:34.22`	`MagicSynthesis`	`for example, when i do attack waves`
`19:34.41`	`MagicSynthesis`	`ill start a 30 second timer or something`
`19:35.24`	`MagicSynthesis`	`but have stuff happen at 5 seconds left`
`19:35.30`	`MagicSynthesis`	`such as sounds or color changes`
`19:35.30`	`A1win`	`oh... mff`
`19:35.31`	`MagicSynthesis`	`etc`
`19:35.40`	`MagicSynthesis`	`bunch of ways you could do it`
`19:35.59`	`MagicSynthesis`	`from additional timers to 'waitforcondition'`
`19:36.24`	`A1win`	`oh yeah there's wait for condition too :x that might have come in handy some times..`
`19:36.26`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i personally use the waitfortimer`
`19:36.42`	`MagicSynthesis`	`which allows you to specify the point in the countdown`
`19:36.46`	`MagicSynthesis`	`doesnt have to be zero`
`19:36.53`	`MagicSynthesis`	`could be 3 could be 7.5`
`19:37.11`	`A1win`	`yeah I guess I should switch to using timers`
`19:37.22`	`A1win`	`just need to do a lot of structure changes in the code :P`
`19:37.37`	`A1win`	`I suppose I can change the time in a timer as well?`
`19:38.17`	`MagicSynthesis`	`yeah, i found the timer to be very intuitive`
`19:38.29`	`MagicSynthesis`	`and not lacking in any features i'd expect`
`19:38.36`	`A1win`	`kk`
`19:38.43`	`Doom`	`whats the venrillo sever name`
`19:38.44`	`Doom`	`?`
`19:38.45`	`MagicSynthesis`	`which is rare in this editor`
`19:38.51`	`Doom`	`for sc2 mapster`
`19:38.52`	`Doom`	`?`
`19:39.05`	`A1win`	`I just have a lot of stuff depending on time here...`
`19:39.10`	`A1win`	`meh I'll figure it out`
`19:39.45`	`A1win`	`5 zones each with a specific time when they become active and when you complete one zone, the time on the rest of the zones is decreased depending on the time you had left for the next zone :P`
`19:39.53`	`Demonette`	`Doom is there again =D`
`19:39.59`	`Doom`	`xD`
`19:40.05`	`Doom`	`hi demonette`
`19:40.06`	`Doom`	`xD`
`19:40.19`	`MagicSynthesis`	`ugh.`
`19:40.23`	`Demonette`	`Hio!`
`19:40.25`	`MagicSynthesis`	`is that supposed to be a face?`
`19:40.43`	`A1win`	`if I pause a unit, does it pause all behaviors and stuff on it as well?`
`19:40.47`	`Doom`	`whats the name of the Ventrilo server for sc 2 mapster`
`19:40.48`	`Doom`	`?`
`19:40.52`	`MagicSynthesis`	`http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ventrilo+sc2mapster`
`19:40.55`	`MagicSynthesis`	`there you go`
`19:41.25`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i kinda doubt it`
`19:43.14`	`MagicSynthesis`	`a lot of the abilities and behaviors arent linked to any specific unit`
`19:43.28`	`MagicSynthesis`	`like charges could be player-wide or ability-wide`
`19:43.31`	`MagicSynthesis`	`etc`
`19:44.00`	`MagicSynthesis`	`which means that even the ones that are unit-specific probably wont pause either`
`19:44.27`	`A1win`	`hmm damn, the wait for timer action would've made my zerg evolution triggers more easily readable as well :P this will take some time... x.x`
`19:44.41`	`A1win`	`errm`
`19:45.08`	`A1win`	`can timers also grow upwards instead just down?`
`19:46.01`	`A1win`	`apparently not :P`
`19:46.07`	`Demonette`	`grow down?`
`19:46.10`	`A1win`	`MagicSynthesis, what did you say about not lacking features? :P`
`19:46.27`	`A1win`	`Demonette, ;p`
`19:46.31`	`A1win`	`you know what I mean :<`
`19:46.39`	`Demonette`	`No I don't =(`
`19:46.58`	`Demonette`	`You mean a countdown?`
`19:46.59`	`Demonette`	`...`
`19:47.00`	`Demonette`	`or?`
`19:47.10`	`A1win`	`the "timer" can only be a countdown`
`19:47.15`	`A1win`	`I want a "count up" too :\|`
`19:47.21`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh`
`19:47.27`	`Demonette`	`make it yourself then?`
`19:47.34`	`Demonette`	`and... wasn't there a get gametime?`
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`19:47.44`	`A1win`	`yeah but gametime is only one timer, I need 5 :P`
`19:47.52`	`A1win`	`oh well`
`19:47.52`	`Demonette`	`=P`
`19:47.59`	`Demonette`	`then make 5 by yourself XD`
`19:48.08`	`A1win`	`I can use an arithmetic with gametime and the time elapsed in each zone`
`19:48.14`	`A1win`	`so should be fine...`
`19:48.16`	`Demonette`	`just use the countdowns to let them grow`
`19:48.24`	`Demonette`	`Or that =)`
`19:48.42`	`Demonette`	`So let me think... i need some UI`
`19:49.16`	`A1win`	`umm, can I make a condition that waits until game time is x? do I need to use a periodic "Wait for (Conditions), checking every 1.0 Game Time seconds`
`19:49.31`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol, upwards?`
`19:50.16`	`A1win`	`MagicSynthesis, I have a system that inreases the number of zerg units and gives them upgrades depending on how much time has elapsed since the zone became active...`
`19:50.39`	`Demonette`	`I thought there was an condition`
`19:50.43`	`Demonette`	`for past gametime`
`19:50.47`	`Demonette`	`passed...`
`19:50.58`	`A1win`	`yeah, a condition.. but no a wait action`
`19:51.10`	`A1win`	`oh`
`19:51.16`	`A1win`	`hmm`
`19:51.22`	`A1win`	`wait for timer can also count elapsed time`
`19:51.23`	`MagicSynthesis`	`you can also throw in wave number, living enemy unit count, enemy kills`
`19:51.44`	`MagicSynthesis`	`the number of living units is most important`
`19:51.46`	`A1win`	`so I can just create a timer with a very high time in it and just use wait for elapsed time action ;p`
`19:51.49`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i also check the framerate`
`19:51.58`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lag really pisses me off`
`19:52.37`	`A1win`	`mmh framerate for what?`
`19:52.44`	`MagicSynthesis`	`the game`
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`19:53.20`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i cant tell you how many maps ive played where the author lets the unit cap go unchecked`
`19:53.32`	`MagicSynthesis`	`for example, elite special forces inferno`
`19:53.36`	`Demonette`	`Terram Loading bar!!`
`19:53.53`	`A1win`	`ah, thought you were talking about something related to this problem ;x`
`19:54.01`	`MagicSynthesis`	`within 5 minutes of the game starting, the framerate was like .5`
`19:54.07`	`A1win`	`hehe`
`19:54.23`	`A1win`	`well my attack waves have like 10-30 units at most :P`
`19:54.36`	`MagicSynthesis`	`like im gonna be in awe of the shear number of freakin zombies they can spawn`
`19:54.40`	`A1win`	`it's quite small-scale combat`
`19:54.45`	`MagicSynthesis`	`good`
`19:54.49`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol`
`19:55.13`	`A1win`	`it uses the default units from the campaign, don't want the players need to learn what every unit does again`
`19:55.34`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i like that too`
`19:55.42`	`Demonette`	`I never talk related to any problems... sry A1win`
`19:55.45`	`MagicSynthesis`	`some linear scaling cant hurt`
`19:55.49`	`A1win`	`hehe`
`19:56.07`	`MagicSynthesis`	`to give the player something to play for`
`19:56.09`	`A1win`	`mm well I've inreased structure health a bit, that doesn't really confuse anyone`
`19:56.33`	`MagicSynthesis`	`what i started doing in my wave map`
`19:56.37`	`A1win`	`no one will be like "oh my god these structures are dying slower than in the campaign, what's going on?"`
`19:56.48`	`MagicSynthesis`	`was monitoring the number of kills during each wave`
`19:56.52`	`nolliepoper`	`Is the sc2mapster ventrilo down?`
`19:56.56`	`A1win`	`but if a zergling can take 2x more damage than in the campaign, then they'll be very confused why it takes more marines to kill them than in the campaign`
`19:57.00`	`MagicSynthesis`	`if we only killed like 1 player unit last wave`
`19:57.09`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i start ramping things up a bit quicker`
`19:57.30`	`MagicSynthesis`	`trying and keep things from getting stale`
`19:57.57`	`A1win`	`mm... in my map the waves isn't the only thing you have to worry about`
`19:58.06`	`A1win`	`you also need to kill their spawn points (hatchery/lair/hive)`
`19:58.08`	`Doom`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/teams/lunar_enchantments/`
`19:58.20`	`A1win`	`so if you have too easy time defending, you can just pick some of the defenders to attack instead`
`19:58.22`	`Doom`	`lookn for requirts`
`19:58.31`	`Doom`	`i still cant spell`
`19:58.32`	`Doom`	`lol`
`19:58.34`	`A1win`	`so you progress faster...`
`19:59.15`	`A1win`	`and I've been playtesting a lot to keep the attack wave sizes right`
`19:59.20`	`Doom`	`lookn for data editors to join my team`
`19:59.24`	`Doom`	`xD`
`19:59.31`	`Doom`	`or trigger editors`
`19:59.31`	`Doom`	`xD`
`19:59.36`	`nolliepoper`	`Doom you got a bit too happy with the 's`
`19:59.49`	`Doom`	`ya`
`19:59.50`	`Doom`	`xD`
`19:59.56`	`Doom`	`nollipoper`
`19:59.57`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:00.07`	`nolliepoper`	`is the vent server down?`
`20:00.14`	`Doom`	`cant be`
`20:00.21`	`nolliepoper`	`I can't connect`
`20:00.26`	`MagicSynthesis`	`you should just append the damn 'xD' to the end of your nick`
`20:00.43`	`Doom`	`magic XSD`
`20:00.45`	`Doom`	`XD`
`20:00.48`	`Doom`	`lol`
`20:00.53`	`nolliepoper`	`are you able to connect yes or no?`
`20:00.58`	`Doom`	`no`
`20:01.03`	`MagicSynthesis`	`you know, vertical screen real estate aint cheap.`
`20:01.06`	`nolliepoper`	`then it is down haha`
`20:01.07`	`nolliepoper`	`liar`
`20:01.23`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:01.45`	`Demonette`	`ssssrrrss`
`20:01.53`	`Demonette`	`Happy s`
`20:02.06`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:02.10`	`Doom`	`demonette`
`20:02.13`	`Doom`	`is epic`
`20:02.20`	`Doom`	`im hyper today`
`20:02.23`	`Doom`	`idk why`
`20:03.24`	`Doom`	`programer`
`20:03.25`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:03.35`	`nolliepoper`	`:S`
`20:03.53`	`Doom`	`i just noticed im a fan of a lotta people here`
`20:04.24`	`Doom`	`sixen~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
`20:04.32`	`nolliepoper`	`go brag about yourself bro.`
`20:04.39`	`Doom`	`why`
`20:04.43`	`Doom`	`im not cool`
`20:04.59`	`Doom`	`i didnt invent awesome things`
`20:05.00`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:05.16`	`nolliepoper`	`define awesome`
`20:05.23`	`Demonette`	`Damn i exploded =(`
`20:05.31`	`Doom`	`epic like a nuke`
`20:05.39`	`Doom`	`in sc 1`
`20:05.48`	`Demonette`	`More like a vultured darted by lurker spines...`
`20:05.53`	`Demonette`	`-d`
`20:06.21`	`Sixen`	`wgat`
`20:06.23`	`Sixen`	`what*`
`20:06.28`	`Doom`	`sixen`
`20:06.31`	`Doom`	`u epic`
`20:06.33`	`Doom`	`omg`
`20:06.34`	`Sixen`	`I know`
`20:06.36`	`Doom`	`u epic`
`20:06.39`	`Doom`	`lol`
`20:06.44`	`Doom`	`sorry im hyper`
`20:07.40`	`Demonette`	`OMG a big zerg window...`
`20:07.48`	`Demonette`	`I think i picked the wrong race...`
`20:07.52`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:08.26`	`nolliepoper`	`my mind may hurt trying to think about created 6 health bars for 6 players`
`20:08.48`	`nolliepoper`	`unique positions and custom bars ewwwwwww.`
`20:08.48`	`Doom`	`nollipoer`
`20:08.50`	`Doom`	`xd`
`20:08.55`	`nolliepoper`	`:S`
`20:08.57`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:09.09`	`Demonette`	`Hehe =D`
`20:09.31`	`Demonette`	`I should improve the health bars on crittercrawler... XD`
`20:09.41`	`Demonette`	`well or maybe i should make it playable first`
`20:09.44`	`nolliepoper`	`a fish <><`
`20:10.09`	`Matt438`	`woah, i just accidentally duplicated the weapons when duplicating unit, the unit icons take on the image/name of the unit you last clicked on`
`20:10.25`	`nolliepoper`	`tru`
`20:10.26`	`Doom`	`lol`
`20:10.28`	`Matt438`	`I had a unit with terran building armour`
`20:10.32`	`Matt438`	`It was awesome`
`20:10.40`	`Matt438`	`didn't block incoming damage though :(`
`20:10.42`	`nolliepoper`	`why are you telling me this?`
`20:11.00`	`Doom`	`hey demonette u on team?`
`20:11.17`	`Demonette`	`Maybe he isn't telling You nolliepoper ?`
`20:11.31`	`Demonette`	`team? which team? there only FFA`
`20:11.33`	`nolliepoper`	`idk it just came up on my screen idk why`
`20:11.44`	`Doom`	`lol`
`20:12.00`	`Doom`	`the teamy that is on sc 2 mapster`
`20:12.02`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:12.07`	`Demonette`	`well you could said it to anyone except you... there are a lot people in here =)`
`20:12.19`	`Demonette`	`teamy team!!! no i'm not on one`
`20:12.21`	`nolliepoper`	`is everyone on the team on different pages?`
`20:12.39`	`Demonette`	`=(`
`20:12.42`	`Doom`	`demonette wanna join my team ~~~~`
`20:12.43`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:12.45`	`nolliepoper`	`can I be the leader that never communicates?`
`20:12.46`	`Demonette`	`teamkill`
`20:12.59`	`nolliepoper`	`can we make teams within our team?`
`20:13.07`	`Doom`	`lool`
`20:13.09`	`Demonette`	`I think i won't join your team doom =P`
`20:13.17`	`Demonette`	`subteams XD`
`20:13.23`	`Doom`	`:(`
`20:13.24`	`nolliepoper`	`superteam`
`20:13.26`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:13.41`	`nolliepoper`	`can I join your team Demonette?`
`20:14.24`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:14.28`	`Demonette`	`Lol`
`20:14.37`	`nolliepoper`	`can you join dooms team demonette then give me your old team?`
`20:14.47`	`Demonette`	`I don't exist! yea you can join my non existing team...`
`20:14.49`	`Doom`	`LOL`
`20:14.49`	`nolliepoper`	`if doom quits his team will you join my team demonette?`
`20:15.00`	`MagicSynthesis`	`so does this team actually do anything?`
`20:15.15`	`Doom`	`my team`
`20:15.16`	`Doom`	`?`
`20:15.16`	`nolliepoper`	`all we do is talk about is partyin and fashion.`
`20:15.26`	`Doom`	`we are workn on a projecct`
`20:15.30`	`Demonette`	`fashion...`
`20:15.48`	`Doom`	`my team once its full`
`20:15.50`	`Demonette`	`you work on the project "Create a team"?`
`20:16.00`	`nolliepoper`	`that is our main goal.`
`20:16.03`	`Doom`	`will make a map of epic all time`
`20:16.16`	`Demonette`	`an epic fail =)`
`20:16.21`	`Doom`	`lol`
`20:16.23`	`nolliepoper`	`lul k noob`
`20:16.30`	`nolliepoper`	`hax...`
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`20:16.41`	`Doom`	`why u pick on me :(`
`20:16.55`	`Dekar`	`nobody likes you!`
`20:16.59`	`Doom`	`meanie`
`20:17.03`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:17.09`	`*** join/#sc2mapster nolliepoper_ (6165e03b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.101.224.59)`
`20:17.11`	`Doom`	`dekar u like me`
`20:17.17`	`nolliepoper_`	`otters gonna ott`
`20:17.30`	`Doom`	`nolliepoper`
`20:17.42`	`MagicSynthesis`	`lol, how do you plan on utilizing that many individuals within a single map?`
`20:17.51`	`nolliepoper_`	`He owns a server.`
`20:17.55`	`nolliepoper_`	`ge ton his lvl`
`20:17.56`	`MagicSynthesis`	`i hope you have some form of version control`
`20:18.11`	`Doom`	`i uploaded a map`
`20:18.18`	`Doom`	`and pecie by pecie`
`20:18.25`	`Doom`	`it shall be done`
`20:18.49`	`Doom`	`but this map`
`20:18.58`	`Doom`	`is team member only`
`20:18.59`	`nolliepoper_`	`everyone can connect to the server simultaneously and do work.`
`20:19.00`	`Doom`	`:P`
`20:19.06`	`MagicSynthesis`	`but wouldnt there be quite a bit of contention with 5 people editing the data?`
`20:19.17`	`Doom`	`nope`
`20:19.21`	`MagicSynthesis`	`presumably using the editor GUI`
`20:19.23`	`Doom`	`have it solved`
`20:19.35`	`Doom`	`but anyway`
`20:19.50`	`Doom`	`does any1 here have a problem with the data editor`
`20:19.51`	`Doom`	`?`
`20:19.56`	`Doom`	`im here to help`
`20:20.02`	`nolliepoper_`	`halp quick`
`20:20.17`	`Doom`	`whatcha need`
`20:20.25`	`Doom`	`lolipop`
`20:20.28`	`Doom`	`xD`
`20:21.05`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mindful (43a9747e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.169.116.126)`
`20:21.09`	`nolliepoper_`	`you seem to just want to help instead of quality work`
`20:21.20`	`Doom`	`?`
`20:21.34`	`nolliepoper_`	`I didn't use what you emailed me`
`20:21.44`	`nolliepoper_`	`and I've done alot of changes since then so it ishistory`
`20:21.58`	`Doom`	`thats good`
`20:22.05`	`Doom`	`then u figured it out`
`20:22.15`	`nolliepoper_`	`no I need working behaviors`
`20:22.23`	`Doom`	`lol`
`20:22.33`	`Doom`	`it does work`
`20:22.40`	`nolliepoper_`	`it is gone`
`20:22.46`	`nolliepoper_`	`so I need new ones that work.`
`20:22.51`	`Doom`	`even if the hot key disbles it`
`20:23.07`	`Doom`	`ok when u press the button`
`20:23.13`	`nolliepoper_`	`if you diable the ability then the hotkey or command card won't work`
`20:23.16`	`Doom`	`it dosent stack]`
`20:23.39`	`nolliepoper_`	`stack wut`
`20:23.48`	`Doom`	`ok then go to the flag Reexcuteable`
`20:23.54`	`Doom`	`on the ability`
`20:23.59`	`Doom`	`and uncheck it`
`20:25.01`	`nolliepoper_`	`no I need to apply a behavior for a certain amount of time.`
`20:25.08`	`Doom`	`.................`
`20:25.10`	`Doom`	`lol`
`20:25.17`	`Doom`	`the behavior`
`20:25.20`	`Doom`	`i gave u`
`20:25.25`	`Doom`	`is tempory`
`20:25.38`	`Doom`	`and disables when he moves`
`20:25.46`	`Doom`	`which is inpossbile`
`20:26.07`	`Doom`	`because i made the ability disable command move`
`20:26.20`	`Doom`	`there for it must be done`
`20:26.30`	`Doom`	`before he can move`
`20:27.19`	`Doom`	`demonette`
`20:27.20`	`Doom`	`?`
`20:27.52`	`nolliepoper_`	`u make no sense`
`20:28.33`	`Doom`	`of course i dot`
`20:28.35`	`Doom`	`dont`
`20:28.37`	`Doom`	`*`
`20:29.28`	`Doom`	`on the behavior there is a tab and on that tab it says abilitys disabled`
`20:29.37`	`Doom`	`move is checked`
`20:29.45`	`Doom`	`and scroll down`
`20:30.17`	`Doom`	`under remove behavior it has is moveing or something like that`
`20:30.25`	`Demonette`	`What?`
`20:30.30`	`Demonette`	`Sry i'm not here`
`20:30.32`	`Demonette`	`i'm away`
`20:31.17`	`Demonette`	`nighty night everything!`
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`20:34.25`	`Doom`	`sixen`
`20:34.26`	`Doom`	`?`
`20:34.30`	`Sixen`	`?`
`20:34.34`	`Doom`	`hi`
`20:34.38`	`Doom`	`i wanna know`
`20:34.58`	`Doom`	`ur the programer of milkyway edit right`
`20:34.58`	`Doom`	`?`
`20:35.12`	`Sixen`	`One of them. nicoli_s and Sholdak did a bulk of the work.`
`20:35.38`	`Doom`	`dos it take away from any of the editor`
`20:35.39`	`Doom`	`?`
`20:35.43`	`Doom`	`does*`
`20:35.50`	`Sixen`	`Take away from... G?E`
`20:35.56`	`Doom`	`yea`
`20:36.02`	`Sixen`	`Not at all. MWE adds onto GE.`
`20:36.19`	`Doom`	`it also says experimental`
`20:36.27`	`nolliepoper_`	`u sonoma...`
`20:36.41`	`Doom`	`is it really experimental`
`20:36.42`	`Doom`	`?`
`20:36.56`	`Sixen`	`I guess. It's not done yet.`
`20:37.02`	`Doom`	`like will it crash on me and delete all my data`
`20:37.19`	`Sixen`	`nope`
`20:37.32`	`Doom`	`is it reverseable?`
`20:37.43`	`Doom`	`can it be unistalled`
`20:37.44`	`Doom`	`?`
`20:37.58`	`Sixen`	`Don't need to install it. Just download and run`
`20:38.03`	`Sixen`	`The latest version isn't up though`
`20:38.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster grim001 (~grim001@c-68-42-56-198.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)`
`20:38.23`	`Doom`	`can i have it\`
`20:38.25`	`Doom`	`o,o`
`20:38.48`	`Doom`	`or does it have a autoupdate?`
`20:38.58`	`nolliepoper_`	`y u want to milky way doom`
`20:39.19`	`*** join/#sc2mapster maknyuzz (181301fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.19.1.252)`
`20:39.19`	`Doom`	`i think milky way will help the trigger edtior`
`20:39.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MagicSynthesis (~John.OBri@c-76-116-156-80.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)`
`20:39.33`	`nolliepoper_`	`pfff`
`20:39.45`	`Doom`	`like i said i dont know much about the sc 2 trigger editor`
`20:39.57`	`Doom`	`but i got the sc 1 just fine]`
`20:40.21`	`Doom`	`maybe milky way has an easyer trigger editor`
`20:40.37`	`nolliepoper_`	`c`
`20:40.44`	`nolliepoper_`	`y no behaviors have effect tab`
`20:40.58`	`Doom`	`1 sec`
`20:41.04`	`nolliepoper_`	`effects++`
`20:41.09`	`nolliepoper_`	`oo lala`
`20:41.48`	`nolliepoper_`	`how apply a behavior at a certain time yap.`
`20:43.03`	`nolliepoper_`	`it must be applied after an effect?`
`20:43.09`	`nolliepoper_`	`no other way?`
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`20:43.33`	`Bounty`	`Woohaaw`
`20:44.08`	`nolliepoper_`	`yassir`
`20:44.26`	`A1win`	`can I somehow enable a player's allies to see the structure placement models when they're building structures?`
`20:45.25`	`A1win`	`iirc that's already enabled in melee games but I haven't seen them in this map which is based on the campaign mod`
`20:46.27`	`nolliepoper`	`wuts this FieldSpellBehavior Behavior - Player +e_effectPlayerUnknown`
`20:46.40`	`Doom`	`found it`
`20:46.46`	`Doom`	`go to ur ability`
`20:46.55`	`Doom`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:46.56`	`nolliepoper`	`all I need to know is create and destroy area`
`20:47.31`	`A1win`	`what's the non-aggression alliance aspect?`
`20:48.04`	`JManV`	`huh?`
`20:50.24`	`JManV`	`the overmind is enormous`
`20:52.04`	`JManV`	`hmmm`
`20:53.06`	`JManV`	`so when a certain type of unit (item) is dropped (it has a specific behavior), i want to add 1 or 2 random behaviors to it`
`20:53.18`	`JManV`	`like diablo items`
`20:54.51`	`JManV`	`the way i tried to do it before is apparently all messed up`
`20:56.52`	`JManV`	`i c`
`20:57.05`	`JManV`	`i need to add the behavior to the item, not the unit`
`20:58.33`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MagicSynthesis (~John.OBri@c-76-116-156-80.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)`
`21:00.43`	`BDmon`	`he anyone know how to set the tip bar when loading?`
`21:01.32`	`JManV`	`map properties?`
`21:02.23`	`BDmon`	`dont see it`
`21:02.43`	`JManV`	`loading screen?`
`21:02.58`	`BDmon`	`tried subtitle and title`
`21:02.59`	`JManV`	`i think it's the subtitle`
`21:03.04`	`JManV`	`help?`
`21:03.07`	`BDmon`	`they both just show up at the top`
`21:03.18`	`BDmon`	`trying :]`
`21:03.33`	`JManV`	`there's a section at the bottom for text position`
`21:03.45`	`BDmon`	`ye gonna try that next`
`21:04.32`	`BDmon`	`lol thnx it was help`
`21:04.34`	`BDmon`	`obviously`
`21:04.40`	`JManV`	`heh`
`21:04.43`	`JManV`	`cool`
`21:04.49`	`JManV`	`now i know ;)`
`21:05.11`	`JManV`	`any item how to add an equip behavior to an item in a trigger?`
`21:05.13`	`BDmon`	`oh didnt know alt f4 closed it directly in menu's :P`
`21:05.38`	`BDmon`	`via trigger? hmm i used data editor for that`
`21:05.58`	`JManV`	`i want to add random ones`
`21:06.06`	`JManV`	`can the data editor do that?`
`21:06.23`	`BDmon`	`no but u can set random weapons in a specific slot`
`21:06.41`	`JManV`	`i want to do like diablo 2 items`
`21:06.57`	`BDmon`	`one slot that equips and put a random wep in there`
`21:06.57`	`BDmon`	`oh item`
`21:06.57`	`JManV`	`mighty psi blades of wisdom`
`21:07.23`	`JManV`	`but i don't want to build every possible combination`
`21:07.23`	`BDmon`	`hmm oke`
`21:07.30`	`JManV`	`cuz...`
`21:07.32`	`JManV`	`yuk`
`21:07.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Arthas- (~dasd@ip3-100.bon.riksnet.se)`
`21:07.43`	`BDmon`	`but why the random`
`21:08.14`	`JManV`	`how else?`
`21:08.37`	`JManV`	`there's a bunch of random encounters`
`21:08.56`	`JManV`	`i want there to be a lot of variety to the items`
`21:09.03`	`JManV`	`i want them to feel original`
`21:09.14`	`JManV`	`without having to build a bazillion items`
`21:09.36`	`BDmon`	`so u want to be able to use 2 different ones together as 1`
`21:09.48`	`JManV`	`kinda`
`21:09.57`	`BDmon`	`still need to make all the parts then`
`21:10.15`	`JManV`	`i want to trigger on the item drop, or drop the item myself in triggers`
`21:10.26`	`JManV`	`decide if it's "special"`
`21:10.31`	`JManV`	`and add some powers to it`
`21:10.46`	`JManV`	`i can do it with a unit`
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`21:10.49`	`BDmon`	`right`
`21:11.03`	`JManV`	`be all... level up, bitch1`
`21:11.04`	`BDmon`	`well an item is a unit aswell`
`21:11.26`	`JManV`	`but i don't think i can get at the equp behaviors of an item in a trigger :(`
`21:11.45`	`BDmon`	`u mean if someone can use the behaviors?`
`21:12.34`	`BDmon`	`if u can add behaviors to a unit/item through triggers it should work`
`21:12.56`	`JManV`	`i can add the behavior to the unit, sure`
`21:13.07`	`JManV`	`but that adds the behavior to the unit, not the hero`
`21:13.19`	`JManV`	`the unit only shows up when the hero isn't carrying the item`
`21:13.33`	`JManV`	`it's what the outside world sees, but not the hero's pocket`
`21:13.35`	`JManV`	`that's the item`
`21:13.52`	`JManV`	`and it has a field "Equip Behaviors"`
`21:14.14`	`JManV`	`so when the hero has it in the proper slot, the hero then gets that behavior`
`21:14.23`	`BDmon`	`yea`
`21:14.25`	`JManV`	`i could maybe add that behavior to the hero through triggers`
`21:14.33`	`JManV`	`which is a little weird`
`21:15.05`	`JManV`	`but i can trigger on adding/removing and inventory item`
`21:15.20`	`JManV`	`wonder if i can get at the unit from there`
`21:15.47`	`BDmon`	`u could try with trigger on pick up`
`21:16.00`	`BDmon`	`but sounds like alot of coding`
`21:16.18`	`JManV`	`depends`
`21:16.30`	`JManV`	`i think i can do it all in just one trigger`
`21:16.47`	`JManV`	`but the tooltip is still a problem`
`21:17.16`	`JManV`	`i don't know any way to change this in triggers at all`
`21:19.42`	`JManV`	`hmmm`
`21:21.44`	`Mindful`	`has anyone experimented with changing Morph abilities through upgrades?`
`21:23.12`	`Doom`	`how do u send files back to the owner in sc 2 mapster?`
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`21:23.22`	`kaseano`	`hi`
`21:23.48`	`Doom`	`hi`
`21:24.08`	`kaseano`	`I have a really tricky problem that no1 seems to know the answer to`
`21:24.23`	`kaseano`	`any1 on here Really good w the data editor :)`
`21:24.30`	`kaseano`	`sadly losing hope`
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`21:27.38`	`Vail`	`whats the issue?`
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`21:28.57`	`Doom`	`ME`
`21:29.02`	`Doom`	`i am pro`
`21:29.06`	`Doom`	`lol`
`21:29.07`	`Doom`	`xD`
`21:29.20`	`Doom`	`only w the data editor mind u`
`21:31.21`	`kaseano`	`I'm trying to get a missile to split into another 1 (or multiple missiles) mid flight`
`21:31.34`	`kaseano`	`I've gotten So close in a bunch of ways but there's always a problem`
`21:32.18`	`Vail`	`what is the missile doing when its not doing what you want?`
`21:33.01`	`kaseano`	`well I tried a LM => persistent => LM, but that fired the 2nd missile back @ the caster`
`21:33.16`	`kaseano`	`plus I couldn't attach the LM to the mover's attachment point, whenever I tried it used the caster's attachment points`
`21:33.23`	`kaseano`	`so it fired from the origin which looked pretty lame`
`21:33.43`	`kaseano`	`then I could have a persistent on the mover, but then I lose the ability target point`
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`21:33.48`	`Doom`	`well if you look at the hyperlatrion weapon`
`21:33.56`	`Doom`	`it fires 1 model`
`21:34.05`	`Doom`	`in 20 directions`
`21:34.07`	`Doom`	`xD`
`21:34.37`	`Doom`	`from 1 pont`
`21:34.41`	`Doom`	`point*`
`21:34.48`	`Doom`	`sorry im bad speller`
`21:34.52`	`kaseano`	`lol`
`21:35.02`	`kaseano`	`na I get how that works`
`21:35.12`	`kaseano`	`probably a set + a bunch of persistents`
`21:35.18`	`Doom`	`xD`
`21:35.28`	`Doom`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:35.29`	`Doom`	`xD`
`21:35.40`	`Doom`	`no trigger yay`
`21:36.09`	`Doom`	`sixen`
`21:36.10`	`Doom`	`?`
`21:36.49`	`Doom`	`ekcol`
`21:36.56`	`Doom`	`:)`
`21:37.06`	`Vail`	`let me test some things`
`21:37.11`	`Doom`	`xD`
`21:37.15`	`kaseano`	`I dont think I could even do it from triggers cus I can't get the mover from LM`
`21:37.17`	`Doom`	`ekcol`
`21:37.19`	`Doom`	`?`
`21:37.32`	`Doom`	`triggers stink`
`21:37.34`	`Doom`	`xD`
`21:42.17`	`Doom`	`any 1 here know whats going on with the ventrilo server`
`21:42.18`	`Doom`	`?`
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`21:43.12`	`Doom`	`nicoli_s ?`
`21:43.16`	`Doom`	`u here`
`21:43.17`	`Doom`	`?`
`21:43.28`	`Doom`	`or kaelten`
`21:43.29`	`Doom`	`?`
`21:43.43`	`Doom`	`or even better sixen?`
`21:44.40`	`Doom`	`or is there another sc 2 mapster server`
`21:44.42`	`Doom`	`?`
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`21:56.10`	`Doom`	`i gtg`
`21:56.13`	`Doom`	`guys`
`21:56.18`	`Doom`	`bub bai`
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`22:17.32`	`kaseano`	`hi, my missile stays level while it flies in an arc... what controls that`
`22:18.48`	`Xapti`	`anyone know a list of all the assets they removed from beta to release?`
`22:19.41`	`Xapti`	`I know they seemed to take out an icon for thor's gun, but didn't even bother remembering the other ones`
`22:19.55`	`Xapti`	`I think it's dumb that they would remove such small things like that for retail`
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`22:32.13`	`BDmon`	`xapti do you still have the beta?`
`22:32.39`	`kaseano`	`any1 know what target match flags and mismatch flags are?`
`22:32.55`	`BDmon`	`nope`
`22:33.01`	`BDmon`	`you searched the sc2mapster wiki?`
`22:33.30`	`BDmon`	`oh that's not much use`
`22:35.29`	`BDmon`	`Sixen is anyone still working on the wiki?`
`22:35.54`	`BDmon`	`last edit is 2 weeks ago i see`
`22:35.57`	`JManV`	`i will be soon`
`22:36.20`	`JManV`	`why don't you?`
`22:38.25`	`kaseano`	`is there a way to make a missile face the direction it's going`
`22:38.27`	`BDmon`	`well dont really have much knowlage yet :P`
`22:38.35`	`kaseano`	`there's upright, facing target, zero roll, etc, nothing like that tho`
`22:38.37`	`BDmon`	`no idea kaseano sorry`
`22:46.28`	`Vail`	`ok i have a missile colides with a target and then spawns more missiles that attack everything around and including the target`
`22:51.39`	`allenmelon`	`who has teh biggest log file of this channel?`
`22:52.29`	`JManV`	`log file?`
`22:52.35`	`JManV`	`where's the log? ;)`
`22:52.37`	`nolliepoper`	`yeah idc`
`22:54.04`	`nolliepoper`	`where to create and destroy behaviors?`
`22:54.16`	`nolliepoper`	`where at the actor the ability the idk?`
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`22:59.19`	`JManV`	`man`
`22:59.32`	`JManV`	`we get player groups and unit groups, but no integer groups`
`22:59.46`	`Xaragoth`	`I still want Object Groups that can be used in the Trigger Editor`
`22:59.47`	`Motive`	`arrays?`
`22:59.48`	`Motive`	`D:`
`22:59.58`	`JManV`	`i have to search an array`
`23:00.16`	`JManV`	`i want an "integer in interger group" function`
`23:00.31`	`Motive`	`Make one :P`
`23:00.41`	`JManV`	`gah`
`23:00.51`	`JManV`	`i don't know the galaxy code so well`
`23:02.28`	`JManV`	`guess i'll do it as an array`
`23:03.37`	`JManV`	`makes it a lot harder to remove an item too`
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`23:05.02`	`doite`	`Hey!`
`23:05.19`	`JManV`	`yo`
`23:05.27`	`doite`	`Sup?`
`23:05.48`	`JManV`	`nada mucho, yo`
`23:05.59`	`doite`	`Fixing with my map`
`23:06.02`	`doite`	`As usuall`
`23:06.10`	`Syniq`	`Oh dear... Cloud came to life... O.o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-OrqyUgelU (Totally unrelated to SC2)`
`23:06.18`	`doite`	`Saw that my other map (the doomsday) is the 17th most popular game`
`23:06.20`	`doite`	`:)`
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`23:07.34`	`doite`	`I do have a question though`
`23:07.38`	`doite`	`http://pastebin.com/8bisJRfe`
`23:08.09`	`doite`	`If a player picks a hero the boolean is set to true for the triggering player`
`23:08.31`	`doite`	`Now i want to make that the map can be played by one player aswell`
`23:08.42`	`doite`	`How should i easy do this?`
`23:09.12`	`doite`	`If statement If active players = 2 then .. if again then the boolean?`
`23:09.46`	`Vail`	`any one know what a Launch Missile FInish effect field corrisponds to?`
`23:10.10`	`doite`	`the impact?`
`23:10.34`	`Vail`	`na thats the impact effect`
`23:10.43`	`doite`	`The finish effect?`
`23:10.49`	`doite`	`no idea`
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`23:11.32`	`Okiesmokie`	`Does anyone know where I can find an article on how to edit team sizes/number of teams in a custom map?`
`23:11.34`	`doite`	`JManV`
`23:11.37`	`doite`	`U have any idea`
`23:11.39`	`doite`	`?`
`23:11.44`	`JMaNv`	`what's the problem?`
`23:11.47`	`doite`	`http://pastebin.com/8bisJRfe`
`23:11.48`	`JMaNv`	`i saw the paste`
`23:11.51`	`doite`	`well`
`23:11.55`	`doite`	`Theres 2 players`
`23:12.00`	`doite`	`If playter picks hero`
`23:12.10`	`doite`	`It sets triggering player boolean = true`
`23:12.14`	`doite`	`Then if both is true`
`23:12.16`	`doite`	`Run start`
`23:12.17`	`doite`	`BUT`
`23:12.22`	`doite`	`If only 1 player is in the game`
`23:12.31`	`kaseano`	`i'm using the yamato model, and it's transparent for some reason in my model attach actor`
`23:12.45`	`doite`	`Then i want it to be able to start anyway`
`23:12.49`	`JMaNv`	`add to your condition`
`23:13.11`	`JMaNv`	`the criteria for player 2 needs to be in an "AND" group`
`23:13.25`	`JMaNv`	`add a criteria, pick AND`
`23:13.29`	`Okiesmokie`	`You could just set the value to true by default, then loop through the players in the initialize event and set the value to false for ones who are there`
`23:13.37`	`nolliepoper`	`anyone know how to remove a behavior? I created a effect to do it but confused why it does not work.`
`23:13.49`	`JMaNv`	`do what okie said`
`23:13.51`	`doite`	`So what would be the first criteria?`
`23:14.18`	`doite`	`Boolean [1] = true ... and Boolean [1] and Boolean[2] = true?`
`23:14.28`	`doite`	`no second and?`
`23:14.32`	`doite`	`i meean!`
`23:15.04`	`JMaNv`	`set the default for the boolean to true`
`23:15.29`	`JMaNv`	`in the beginning of your map initialization: do a "pick each player in (active players)" loop`
`23:15.47`	`JMaNv`	`and inside of it, set boolean [(picked player)] = false`
`23:16.17`	`JMaNv`	`so by default, they're ready`
`23:16.27`	`doite`	`Or maybe`
`23:16.30`	`JMaNv`	`but if their's actually a player there, then their not ready`
`23:16.58`	`doite`	`I can just do if : Active players > 2 then Set boolean [2] = true`
`23:17.10`	`Okiesmokie`	`the other way is more scalable`
`23:17.13`	`Okiesmokie`	`if you want to support more players later on`
`23:18.03`	`JMaNv`	`the way he said will support any number of players`
`23:18.08`	`JMaNv`	`computers,`
`23:18.19`	`doite`	`oh`
`23:18.20`	`JMaNv`	`and if player 1 drops out during load`
`23:18.27`	`doite`	`hmm true`
`23:18.44`	`doite`	`Well i dont know how to it it your way =/`
`23:18.49`	`doite`	`To complicated for me`
`23:18.52`	`JMaNv`	`you want player 2 to be able to get past the menu`
`23:18.56`	`Okiesmokie`	`he just told you :o`
`23:19.02`	`JMaNv`	`go to the variable`
`23:19.11`	`doite`	`Yea but And set to true`
`23:19.16`	`JMaNv`	`set it's default to true`
`23:19.35`	`JMaNv`	`the go to you map initialization function`
`23:19.41`	`JMaNv`	`in the beginning of your map initialization: do a "pick each player in (active players)" loop`
`23:19.47`	`JMaNv`	`and inside of it, set boolean [(picked player)] = false`
`23:20.05`	`doite`	`AHA`
`23:20.09`	`doite`	`So if player 2 is not there`
`23:20.13`	`doite`	`Its still true`
`23:20.15`	`doite`	`Smart`
`23:20.18`	`Okiesmokie`	`exactly :)`
`23:20.19`	`doite`	`Your a genious!`
`23:20.21`	`JMaNv`	`he won't be in active players`
`23:20.32`	`JMaNv`	`it was okie's idea, i just drove it home ;)`
`23:20.36`	`doite`	`=)`
`23:20.39`	`doite`	`Thanks guys`
`23:21.25`	`Okiesmokie`	`lol I wouldn't have been able to explain how to do it though. I'm new to using the galaxy editor, but have a programming background xP`
`23:21.52`	`nolliepoper`	`y remove behavior effect no work?`
`23:22.42`	`nolliepoper`	`any protips?`
`23:24.52`	`nolliepoper`	`sonoma...`
`23:24.53`	`Vail`	`kaseano: you still here?`
`23:24.59`	`kaseano`	`ya sup Vail`
`23:25.07`	`nolliepoper`	`hihi vail ily`
`23:25.17`	`A1win`	`hmm I've always wanted to make a point'n'click adventure game... SC2 would work fine as a platform for one =o`
`23:25.31`	`nolliepoper`	`tell me more a1win`
`23:25.36`	`Vail`	`can you get your missile to detonate in the air half way between your caster and target?`
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`23:25.44`	`A1win`	`nolliepoper, err... I don't have more :P`
`23:26.07`	`doite`	`OK!`
`23:26.10`	`doite`	`Question nr 2...`
`23:26.16`	`doite`	`When player ..`
`23:26.20`	`doite`	`Here ill take an image`
`23:26.36`	`nolliepoper`	`BorgDragon my friend`
`23:26.38`	`kaseano`	`Vail I just put a timed life on the missile, and put a duration on the mover so the missile would always b in the air x seconds`
`23:26.44`	`kaseano`	`then the time life was half of that`
`23:26.53`	`nolliepoper`	`y no remove behavior effect no work?`
`23:27.01`	`kaseano`	`and the same amount as the persistent duration on the LM`
`23:27.09`	`kaseano`	`which is such a hack but I couldn't come up w anything else`
`23:27.11`	`A1win`	`nolliepoper, or more about what? why or how or..? I don't have an idea for the game, just a general idea that it'd be possible to make it...`
`23:27.24`	`A1win`	`I've been playing the new sam & max games again :X`
`23:27.38`	`Vail`	`how did you get the timed life on to the missile thats where i am having my trouble`
`23:27.39`	`nolliepoper`	`tru`
`23:27.45`	`kaseano`	`on the mover`
`23:27.50`	`kaseano`	`well the unit with the mover`
`23:27.53`	`nolliepoper`	`a1win wut u know bout data?`
`23:28.10`	`A1win`	`not much.. some random stuff`
`23:28.15`	`kaseano`	`ideally it'd b nice to fire the effect on the missile death but no dice ;)`
`23:28.18`	`kaseano`	`:) *`
`23:28.19`	`nolliepoper`	`all the pros be trippin on my questions`
`23:28.44`	`Vail`	`if i could kill the missile i could fire an effect then but i cant see how to kill the missile.`
`23:28.46`	`nolliepoper`	`I made effect to remove a behavior but broken`
`23:28.56`	`A1win`	`no idea about that :<`
`23:28.58`	`kaseano`	`a timed life behavior didn't work ?`
`23:29.07`	`nolliepoper`	`that works`
`23:29.12`	`Vail`	`i do not think i am applying it correctly`
`23:29.18`	`nolliepoper`	`but what if I need to cut the behavior's life short?`
`23:29.20`	`doite`	`Ok`
`23:29.25`	`doite`	`Ill tell about everything in a sec`
`23:29.30`	`doite`	`first 2 images and trigger`
`23:29.31`	`doite`	`http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8229/screenshot2010112200263.jpg`
`23:29.40`	`kaseano`	`you can set behaviors directly on the unit`
`23:29.41`	`doite`	`http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5610/screenshot2010112200271.jpg`
`23:29.47`	`doite`	`http://pastebin.com/YkJWShrL`
`23:29.48`	`A1win`	`hmm maybe I should make a point'n'click library first and then a game o:`
`23:29.49`	`doite`	`Ok..`
`23:29.56`	`doite`	`So when player 1 chooses Chris`
`23:29.59`	`doite`	`Pic 1`
`23:30.02`	`Vail`	`ah you mean put the timed life dirrectly on the missile`
`23:30.07`	`kaseano`	`yeah`
`23:30.08`	`nolliepoper`	`without the need of an effect kaseano?`
`23:30.09`	`Vail`	`gotchya`
`23:30.19`	`kaseano`	`nolliepoper was talking to vail haha what was your Q`
`23:30.25`	`doite`	`He spawns after they both have and it chooses pic 2 (right corner) a picture of him`
`23:30.26`	`doite`	`BUT`
`23:30.31`	`nolliepoper`	`sonoma..`
`23:30.34`	`doite`	`If palyer 1 chooses... someone else`
`23:30.39`	`nolliepoper`	`try remove behavior on command`
`23:30.39`	`doite`	`Say jull`
`23:30.43`	`doite`	`Jill`
`23:30.50`	`doite`	`The picture is the same as for player 1`
`23:30.51`	`doite`	`Why?`
`23:31.01`	`Vail`	`oops sorry nolliepoper i missed your question`
`23:31.11`	`nolliepoper`	`the stupid effect broken`
`23:31.23`	`nolliepoper`	`effect type is remove behavior`
`23:32.16`	`nolliepoper`	`want ss?`
`23:32.53`	`Vail`	`ok`
`23:33.36`	`nolliepoper`	`http://i56.tinypic.com/2d7dc29.png`
`23:34.14`	`nolliepoper`	`plz don't laugh and point fun.`
`23:34.24`	`Okiesmokie`	`doite: You're looping through each person, but you're only making one dialog`
`23:34.32`	`Vail`	`i think you need a number in Behavior count`
`23:34.39`	`Okiesmokie`	`So you're setting the image of that one dialog to whatever the last person has`
`23:34.42`	`Vail`	`like 1 or higher`
`23:34.49`	`nolliepoper`	`I put 1 lemme try 2`
`23:34.50`	`Okiesmokie`	`and showing that dialog to all players`
`23:35.17`	`nolliepoper`	`yeah the 1 and 2 didn't work Vail`
`23:35.23`	`doite`	`Hmm`
`23:35.31`	`doite`	`What?`
`23:35.38`	`nolliepoper`	`trying -1 bro Vail`
`23:35.42`	`Vail`	`could you expand the Unit Unit field?`
`23:35.53`	`nolliepoper`	`sonoma doesnt work.`
`23:35.54`	`Okiesmokie`	`Do the health bars update correctly?`
`23:35.57`	`Okiesmokie`	`for both players?`
`23:36.02`	`doite`	`yea`
`23:36.05`	`doite`	`And ammo`
`23:36.16`	`doite`	`Blue thing under`
`23:36.32`	`nolliepoper`	`Vail all that is suppose to be the caster`
`23:36.32`	`doite`	`But i think its true as u say`
`23:36.43`	`Vail`	`ah`
`23:36.43`	`doite`	`For example chris has 200 hp`
`23:36.47`	`doite`	`jill has 300`
`23:36.53`	`doite`	`But when someone picks jill`
`23:37.04`	`doite`	`Then i pick chiss it sais 200 on both`
`23:37.12`	`doite`	`Til jill gets damaged`
`23:37.19`	`doite`	`And it starts updating`
`23:37.29`	`Vail`	`sorry i have no answere for you`
`23:37.47`	`nolliepoper`	`borgDragon get his back`
`23:37.53`	`BorgDragon`	`roars`
`23:37.57`	`BorgDragon`	`what?`
`23:38.05`	`nolliepoper`	`y no remove behavior effect work?`
`23:38.10`	`nolliepoper`	`http://i56.tinypic.com/2d7dc29.png`
`23:38.25`	`doite`	`Mr Okie`
`23:38.31`	`doite`	`I understand what your saying`
`23:38.35`	`doite`	`But dont know how to fix..`
`23:38.40`	`nolliepoper`	`doite the vent down?`
`23:38.43`	`doite`	`Yea`
`23:38.50`	`Vail`	`im not sure why its not working.`
`23:38.53`	`Okiesmokie`	`I think you need to make separate dialogs for each person`
`23:39.09`	`doite`	`Well that sucks becouse its 100 variables`
`23:39.11`	`doite`	`OR?`
`23:39.12`	`nolliepoper`	`borgDragon wut you think about that screeshot`
`23:39.14`	`doite`	`Is the variables ok?`
`23:39.15`	`nolliepoper`	`don't mak fun.`
`23:39.16`	`BorgDragon`	`well`
`23:39.20`	`doite`	`But just not the dialogs?`
`23:39.37`	`Okiesmokie`	`Well you should have different variables for each person anyway don't you?`
`23:39.41`	`BorgDragon`	`Behavior Count = 1`
`23:39.45`	`BorgDragon`	`cough`
`23:39.47`	`BorgDragon`	`try that?`
`23:40.01`	`BorgDragon`	`currently looks like you are removing 0 SpellBehavior`
`23:40.07`	`nolliepoper`	`I tried that dang`
`23:40.10`	`Okiesmokie`	`by variables you mean like ammo and health right?`
`23:40.18`	`nolliepoper`	`I tried 0 1 2 and 01`
`23:40.19`	`doite`	`Tea`
`23:40.20`	`doite`	`http://pastebin.com/rRBkWfwm`
`23:40.21`	`nolliepoper`	`-1*`
`23:40.23`	`BorgDragon`	`hmm`
`23:40.25`	`doite`	`Well those work`
`23:40.28`	`BorgDragon`	`change caster to source`
`23:40.28`	`doite`	`For each player`
`23:41.00`	`nolliepoper`	`I used caster when applying behavior`
`23:41.22`	`doite`	`Hmm..`
`23:41.27`	`BorgDragon`	`how and when is the behavior supposed to be removed ?`
`23:41.43`	`BorgDragon`	`maybe that's what's screwing up and not the remove behavior effect`
`23:41.49`	`doite`	`Mr Okie, maybe i can just remove dialog text for health (since i dont care about it) and then just fix the images?`
`23:41.50`	`nolliepoper`	`when another spell is used I set that to the effect.`
`23:42.13`	`doite`	`Or wait..`
`23:42.19`	`doite`	`AHA!`
`23:42.24`	`doite`	`Well..`
`23:42.27`	`doite`	`Yea`
`23:42.30`	`BorgDragon`	`hmmm`
`23:42.30`	`doite`	`Is there a way..`
`23:42.32`	`doite`	`Here wait`
`23:42.51`	`doite`	`Hmm..`
`23:43.00`	`Okiesmokie`	`Personally I wouldn't have done it the way you did`
`23:43.06`	`Okiesmokie`	`by copying+pasting the same thing for every character`
`23:43.18`	`nolliepoper`	`borgDragon http://i53.tinypic.com/oszywm.png`
`23:43.36`	`Okiesmokie`	`You could've stored the values like health and stuff in an array, and have like index 0 be Chris (Marine) and index 1 be Jill`
`23:43.43`	`Okiesmokie`	`and you would only have to have the code for the dialog once`
`23:43.51`	`Vail`	`well darn i have the missile dieing and creating more missiles but they launch from the ground`
`23:44.15`	`Okiesmokie`	`And then have an array of dialogs for all of the players, so like HUDDialog[0] would be player 1, HUDDialog[1] woudl be player 2, etc`
`23:44.54`	`JMaNv`	`awesome`
`23:45.05`	`JMaNv`	`i just made a debug message library`
`23:45.23`	`BorgDragon`	`Nollie`
`23:45.38`	`nolliepoper`	`ye`
`23:45.45`	`BorgDragon`	`generally when I want to apply/do multiple things with 1 button press, I use SET effects`
`23:46.15`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:46.18`	`nolliepoper`	`no yundastand`
`23:46.19`	`doite`	`How to make text instead`
`23:46.31`	`doite`	`Amount of hp of unit`
`23:46.37`	`doite`	`Possible?`
`23:48.41`	`Vail`	`back in a while its dinner time`
`23:49.13`	`Okiesmokie`	`I'm sure it's possible, not 100% sure how though`
`23:49.29`	`Okiesmokie`	`I'd imagine it would be something with the Unit Property function though`
`23:50.29`	`A1win`	`combine text ( convert real to text ( unit property (health - current), "/200") )`
`23:50.41`	`A1win`	`(that's not a minus)`
`23:51.26`	`Okiesmokie`	`is there a health - total that you could use instead of /200?`
`23:51.39`	`A1win`	`yeah, Maximum Life`
`23:51.46`	`A1win`	`...and Life (Current), not health`
`23:52.14`	`A1win`	`so you'll need 3 combine texts "current life" + "/" + "life maximuM"`
`23:53.04`	`A1win`	`and you need "Convert Real To Text" for the life values`
`23:53.15`	`A1win`	`because unit properties are Real values`
`23:54.30`	`kaseano`	`I have a model addition that I just want to play once`
`23:54.41`	`kaseano`	`the model animation takes about 3 seconds, how do i cut that down to .5 of a second`
`23:54.56`	`doite`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:55.00`	`doite`	`In a pick all player loop?`
`23:55.04`	`doite`	`!`
`23:55.05`	`doite`	`i mena`
`23:56.42`	`doite`	`No..`
`23:56.44`	`doite`	`Did not work`
`23:56.52`	`doite`	`Did only give an error then 0/0`
`23:56.57`	`A1win`	`doite, it's a good idea to first put those things into a variable so if you need to change something later, you'll still have the text in the variable and can reuse it in any way you want`
`23:57.18`	`Matt438`	`or even a function or something to clean it up a little`
`23:57.26`	`doite`	`The resize allready works`
`23:57.51`	`A1win`	`well is your PlayerUnit[Picked Player] anything when you call that action?`
`23:58.02`	`A1win`	`and is Picked Player anything?`
`23:58.12`	`doite`	`i dont knw =(`
`23:58.14`	`doite`	`Is it?`
`23:58.27`	`A1win`	`you only gave use one line of your trigger, we have no idea ;p`
`23:58.34`	`doite`	`triggering player?`
`23:58.50`	`A1win`	`there's no way to know what it should be if you don't show the whole trigger`
`23:59.14`	`A1win`	`Picked Player only works in a "Pick each player in <player group>" action`
`23:59.38`	`A1win`	`triggering player only works if the event sets it to something`

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