| 00:01.17 | J-Man_ | is there an easier way to test it on bnet, or do i need to publish it every time? |
| 00:01.45 | Bounty | I think i need to start playing one of the Disgaea games in order to finish my map |
| 00:01.50 | Bounty | i need some over the top inspiration |
| 00:04.22 | nolliepoper | tell me about the rabbits George. |
| 00:04.57 | J-Man_ | what are you working on? |
| 00:06.07 | doite | My map is finally published |
| 00:06.34 | doite | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/doomsday/ |
| 00:06.48 | doite | Check it out! =) On european servers |
| 00:08.01 | J-Man_ | how long did that take ya? |
| 00:08.15 | Helral | doite: name sounds familiar ;p |
| 00:08.37 | doite | =) |
| 00:08.53 | doite | Yea well, with low fantasy i have to come up with something |
| 00:09.17 | Helral | :) |
| 00:09.18 | Azu | remember |
| 00:09.19 | Azu | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8461098/SS-2010-11-17_15.19.04.png |
| 00:09.24 | doite | J-man, it took about 4 days, but im extremly noob, so its my second map! Im wokring on getting better. But this on is actually quite fun |
| 00:10.49 | J-Man_ | not bad. i'm not judging, was just curious |
| 00:10.58 | J-Man_ | i have 0 maps, so... |
| 00:11.05 | J-Man_ | well, maybe 0.25 |
| 00:11.16 | J-Man_ | give or take 0.5 :) |
| 00:12.08 | J-Man_ | i'd check yours out, but i'm on NA server |
| 00:12.59 | J-Man_ | i'm gonna kill this map editor |
| 00:13.09 | J-Man_ | so i've been working on my map in two locations |
| 00:13.27 | J-Man_ | i just saved the map in the remote location, grabbed the file and moved it over, then opened it |
| 00:13.38 | J-Man_ | old version of the map from the local computer |
| 00:14.01 | J-Man_ | i can't get it to load the proper map |
| 00:14.29 | J-Man_ | i'm scared to close it in the remote location, because last time i did, i lost a days worth of work |
| 00:16.02 | J-Man_ | wtf?!?!?! |
| 00:16.31 | J-Man_ | i saved it as another name. same deal |
| 00:22.14 | J-Man_ | ok |
| 00:22.18 | J-Man_ | this is f'ed |
| 00:22.55 | J-Man_ | i'm looking at my triggers, and i saved the file, but all that loads is an old version |
| 00:23.07 | J-Man_ | so i published it, and all that plays is the old version |
| 00:23.28 | J-Man_ | i'm looking at it! it's still open! |
| 00:23.59 | J-Man_ | i've had this happen before. i thought i was crazy |
| 00:26.24 | J-Man_ | i've never seen anything like this. i save it as a different name, open it at another location... old version of the file |
| 00:27.06 | J-Man_ | i want my day's worth of work! |
| 00:27.53 | J-Man_ | why won't it save? |
| 00:31.54 | Acemore | guess you don't have automatic backups? |
| 00:32.13 | J-Man_ | guess i will now |
| 00:33.27 | Acemore | you set that in the preferences |
| 00:33.42 | J-Man_ | so i made some more changes |
| 00:33.45 | J-Man_ | published |
| 00:33.50 | J-Man_ | the published changes are there |
| 00:34.03 | J-Man_ | but the trigger changes i made today... that i can see in the editor... not there |
| 00:34.10 | J-Man_ | how weird is that? |
| 00:34.58 | Acemore | :\ |
| 00:35.11 | J-Man_ | i can't get them to save |
| 00:35.29 | Acemore | at all now? |
| 00:35.36 | J-Man_ | no it saves |
| 00:35.49 | J-Man_ | but the trigger changes i made today are not there |
| 00:36.04 | Acemore | maybe you undid them by mistake or something |
| 00:36.12 | J-Man_ | i opened it in another location |
| 00:36.18 | J-Man_ | an older file |
| 00:36.24 | J-Man_ | i may have even published from it |
| 00:36.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@c-76-126-227-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:36.45 | J-Man_ | but i still had the changes i made open back at work |
| 00:37.00 | J-Man_ | so i tried to re-save/re-publish, what-not |
| 00:37.09 | J-Man_ | but it's apparently screwed |
| 00:37.41 | J-Man_ | i can't seem to paste my triggers across the remote desktop |
| 00:39.17 | J-Man_ | i can seem to paste them to the other copy i saved |
| 00:39.28 | J-Man_ | it's slow, but worth it |
| 00:40.32 | J-Man_ | fortunately i only modified a few functions |
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| 00:42.21 | J-Man_ | so nobody talks around here? we don't have to talk about my annoying save issue |
| 00:42.46 | J-Man_ | what's everyone else working on? |
| 00:42.56 | Bounty | Win the Crowd |
| 00:42.58 | Bounty | for me |
| 00:43.02 | J-Man_ | ah yes |
| 00:43.04 | Bounty | pain in the ass honestly |
| 00:43.07 | J-Man_ | what is that exactly? |
| 00:43.10 | Bounty | im downloading Disgaea Hour of Darkness |
| 00:43.15 | Bounty | for inspiration |
| 00:43.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:43.18 | BorgDragon | OMG yes Bounty |
| 00:43.29 | Bounty | Well |
| 00:43.32 | BorgDragon | Disgaea #3 series/game of all time :P |
| 00:43.39 | Bounty | I already beat Disgaea 3 |
| 00:43.41 | Bounty | i need something new |
| 00:43.43 | Bounty | any J man |
| 00:43.47 | Bounty | did u ever see the thread? |
| 00:43.51 | Bounty | it explains it pretty well |
| 00:44.03 | J-Man_ | i saw it |
| 00:44.07 | J-Man_ | i didn't really get it |
| 00:44.18 | Bounty | Its a PvE co op arena |
| 00:44.21 | Bounty | 4 heroes |
| 00:44.23 | Bounty | 3 players |
| 00:44.32 | Bounty | 9 fights |
| 00:44.39 | Bounty | you win by gaining 100% crowd favor |
| 00:44.41 | Bounty | its like a tug of war |
| 00:44.45 | Bounty | with a bar slider |
| 00:44.52 | Bounty | and it moves to the side of whoever is winning |
| 00:45.05 | Bounty | if it gets all the way to someones side |
| 00:45.07 | J-Man_ | ok |
| 00:45.07 | Bounty | they win |
| 00:45.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:45.19 | J-Man_ | makes sense |
| 00:45.24 | J-Man_ | what's causing trouble? |
| 00:45.33 | Bounty | nothing technical |
| 00:45.35 | J-Man_ | besides the editor? :) |
| 00:45.39 | Bounty | nah editor is fine |
| 00:45.47 | Bounty | its coming up with abilities thats a pain in the ass :) |
| 00:45.51 | J-Man_ | slows me down every step of the way |
| 00:45.58 | J-Man_ | abilities is a pain |
| 00:46.24 | J-Man_ | you can keep them pretty simple tho... makes them easier to balance |
| 00:46.28 | Bounty | i mean honestly the game could have been done by now |
| 00:46.31 | Bounty | nah |
| 00:46.34 | Bounty | the whole idea of this game |
| 00:46.37 | Bounty | is over the top |
| 00:46.39 | J-Man_ | over the top |
| 00:46.40 | J-Man_ | yeah |
| 00:47.00 | J-Man_ | that does make things more difficult |
| 00:47.09 | Bounty | yeah but it makes it more fun in the end :) |
| 00:47.55 | Bounty | example |
| 00:47.59 | J-Man_ | so how about super rapid fire and spinning around quickly? |
| 00:48.04 | Bounty | the final boss atm is way to easy because he doesnt have his most powerful ability |
| 00:48.11 | Bounty | already did that |
| 00:48.13 | Bounty | :) |
| 00:48.15 | J-Man_ | ok |
| 00:48.21 | J-Man_ | metoer-like spells? |
| 00:48.29 | Bounty | thats what the final boss is getting |
| 00:48.39 | Bounty | summons a comet and just blows everything to shit |
| 00:48.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:48.54 | J-Man_ | what about a multi-meteor spell? |
| 00:49.02 | J-Man_ | littler ones |
| 00:49.14 | BorgDragon | no bounty, when I said Disgaea #3 series/game of all time, I meant #3 in my top 10 you know :P |
| 00:49.14 | Bounty | that could work |
| 00:49.21 | Bounty | ah |
| 00:49.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:49.26 | J-Man_ | any nova effects? |
| 00:49.30 | Bounty | yep |
| 00:49.33 | Bounty | go to my youtube channel |
| 00:49.40 | Bounty | @bounty4321 |
| 00:49.43 | J-Man_ | firewall? |
| 00:49.48 | Bounty | to plain |
| 00:50.05 | J-Man_ | multiple fire walls? |
| 00:50.08 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:50.25 | Bounty | multiple wrongs dont make a right |
| 00:50.29 | Bounty | =P |
| 00:50.35 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 00:50.37 | J-Man_ | not always true ;> |
| 00:51.53 | Bounty | FUUUCK |
| 00:51.55 | Bounty | why didnt i think of it before |
| 00:52.00 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZK0qgt7Eh8 |
| 00:52.04 | Bounty | i should have a UI like that |
| 00:52.06 | Bounty | in the corner |
| 00:52.10 | Bounty | counting combos |
| 00:53.17 | Bounty | now the question is |
| 00:53.24 | Bounty | how the hell could i get it to work right |
| 00:53.37 | Bounty | like only counter hits that are in rapid succession |
| 00:54.38 | Saeris | so bounty, i didn't read that thread of yours until like a week after it went up. guess you aren't dropping out of mapping then |
| 00:54.53 | Saeris | least i think it was yours =P |
| 00:54.55 | Bounty | im dropping out of publishing :) |
| 00:55.01 | Saeris | ah |
| 00:55.03 | Bounty | im not done mapping though |
| 00:55.17 | Bounty | when they fix the system ill make it public |
| 00:55.29 | Saeris | gotcha |
| 00:55.29 | Bounty | still not done though |
| 00:55.33 | Bounty | got awhile :) |
| 00:55.44 | Bounty | now does anyone know how to do what i just asked? |
| 00:56.14 | Saeris | um |
| 00:56.15 | Saeris | like |
| 00:56.25 | Saeris | to count how many hits a unit gets in in rapid succession? |
| 00:56.30 | Bounty | yeah |
| 00:56.32 | Bounty | like |
| 00:56.33 | Saeris | well |
| 00:56.34 | Bounty | as in the video |
| 00:56.39 | Bounty | like if 2 players |
| 00:56.43 | Saeris | seems like you would use a timer for one |
| 00:56.44 | Bounty | do a combo at the same time |
| 00:57.03 | Saeris | and do it for event unit takes damage or something |
| 00:57.20 | Saeris | and if timer Combo is still running = true, increase combo counter +1 |
| 00:57.26 | Saeris | and reset the timer to max |
| 00:57.34 | Bounty | yeah but how do i stop it |
| 00:57.41 | Bounty | like when the enemy stops taking damage |
| 00:57.47 | Saeris | easy |
| 00:57.56 | Saeris | the thing is |
| 00:58.06 | Saeris | first hit, start a 5 second timer that counts down to 0 |
| 00:58.22 | Saeris | once the timer hits zero, you have a trigger fire that ends the combo count |
| 00:58.29 | Bounty | and keep adding to the counter |
| 00:58.31 | Bounty | ? |
| 00:58.32 | Bounty | per hit |
| 00:58.36 | Saeris | yea |
| 00:58.37 | Saeris | like |
| 00:58.50 | Saeris | on damage, you go and reset the time remaining to 5 sec |
| 00:58.55 | Bounty | fuck man this is goingto be sweet |
| 00:58.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:59.06 | Bounty | i cant believe i didnt think of this before :) |
| 00:59.09 | Bounty | thank god for Disgaea |
| 00:59.12 | Saeris | you might want a shorter timer than 5 seconds |
| 00:59.12 | Bounty | and you |
| 00:59.13 | Bounty | :) |
| 00:59.14 | Bounty | yeah |
| 00:59.16 | Bounty | alot shorter |
| 00:59.20 | BorgDragon | 2 sec |
| 00:59.20 | Saeris | but that's essentially all you need |
| 00:59.21 | doite | Guys, have anyone had a map that goes futured? |
| 00:59.28 | doite | featured |
| 00:59.38 | BorgDragon | nope |
| 01:00.12 | doite | Well borg, making the most awesome kills and units in data editor, but then just placing them out and adding a sound wont get u there! |
| 01:00.13 | doite | =) |
| 01:00.14 | Saeris | seeing as the current US ones have been there for like, over a month |
| 01:00.15 | Saeris | no |
| 01:00.25 | Saeris | blizz kinda just stopped updating it >.> |
| 01:00.33 | doite | What are the Us ones? |
| 01:00.37 | doite | US* |
| 01:00.40 | BorgDragon | man I really hope there's more than just me and ftbh that made stuff for the Weekly Data Editor |
| 01:00.52 | BorgDragon | or else they will stop with the WDE :| |
| 01:00.57 | Saeris | i dunno atm, but i know they've been the same every time i've logged on in the past month or so |
| 01:00.57 | BorgDragon | lol doite |
| 01:01.15 | BorgDragon | I add 2 sounds |
| 01:01.16 | BorgDragon | not just 1 |
| 01:01.22 | doite | true |
| 01:01.24 | Saeris | brb |
| 01:01.25 | BorgDragon | that's the difference between me and everyone else |
| 01:01.27 | BorgDragon | :P |
| 01:01.30 | doite | Well that would make u rich and famous |
| 01:01.31 | doite | =) |
| 01:01.37 | BorgDragon | I already am |
| 01:01.45 | doite | There you go |
| 01:01.49 | doite | All due to the sounjds |
| 01:01.52 | doite | sounds* |
| 01:01.53 | BorgDragon | to my nieces and nephews ;P |
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| 01:04.35 | J-Man_ | stupid internet |
| 01:05.27 | J-Man_ | not sure what happened there |
| 01:06.09 | BorgDragon | i read 'Tentacle Return' in the Actor events and I read 'Tentacle Rectum' ... man I'm so fucking tired lol |
| 01:06.22 | BorgDragon | well, realised it said Tentacle Return |
| 01:06.32 | J-Man_ | i read testicle return... |
| 01:06.33 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 01:07.08 | J-Man_ | so it could have been worse. you could have seen "testicle rectum" |
| 01:07.12 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 01:07.32 | BorgDragon | that makes me laugh and think of 'The 40 year old virgin' |
| 01:07.43 | BorgDragon | when Andy is talking to Mooj in the store, LOL |
| 01:13.01 | BorgDragon | if a High Templar has no attack, then what kind of attack would an Uber Templar have? |
| 01:13.07 | BorgDragon | ... hmmm |
| 01:13.12 | J-Man_ | karate chop? |
| 01:13.20 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 01:13.24 | J-Man_ | fists of norris |
| 01:14.23 | BorgDragon | Bearded Fist |
| 01:14.25 | BorgDragon | of Norris |
| 01:14.37 | J-Man_ | something like that |
| 01:15.15 | J-Man_ | or he could have a photon cannon type deal |
| 01:15.33 | J-Man_ | or he could just storm a bunch |
| 01:15.41 | BorgDragon | he's goin to have a custom storm |
| 01:15.51 | BorgDragon | a "morph attack" |
| 01:15.59 | J-Man_ | then fists or cannon |
| 01:16.14 | BorgDragon | Feedback with a twist |
| 01:16.23 | J-Man_ | feedback is awesome |
| 01:16.28 | BorgDragon | Storm / Maelstrom combination |
| 01:16.47 | BorgDragon | his shadow trail |
| 01:16.50 | BorgDragon | and himself |
| 01:16.52 | BorgDragon | will get a buff |
| 01:17.00 | BorgDragon | and during this buff hte shadow trail he leaves behind when moving |
| 01:17.05 | BorgDragon | changes, and deals damage |
| 01:17.14 | BorgDragon | along with a move speed increase |
| 01:17.27 | BorgDragon | and he can summon :P |
| 01:17.38 | J-Man_ | sweet |
| 01:17.42 | BorgDragon | currenntly thinking of a 5th |
| 01:18.19 | J-Man_ | nova? |
| 01:18.48 | J-Man_ | templar needs a way of keeping swarms off him |
| 01:18.57 | J-Man_ | could just be a stun nova |
| 01:19.15 | J-Man_ | or a damage nova |
| 01:20.08 | BorgDragon | the shadow thing |
| 01:20.16 | BorgDragon | is a damage nova, constant |
| 01:20.30 | BorgDragon | and he's got some stuns already |
| 01:20.43 | BorgDragon | one stuns the target, the other stuns all targets around target |
| 01:21.31 | BorgDragon | but he IS an Uber Templar |
| 01:21.44 | BorgDragon | he'll be able to just stand there and take alot ;) |
| 01:23.54 | Tordy | THE ORG |
| 01:24.51 | J-Man_ | maybe just a buff effect? |
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| 01:25.18 | supershwa | Anyone know how I can remove the "fly around in circles" behaivor for Interceptors? |
| 01:25.51 | BorgDragon | change it's mover maybe? |
| 01:26.04 | supershwa | Mover is just "Fly" like other flying objects |
| 01:29.30 | BorgDragon | change the Loiter Radius |
| 01:29.55 | BorgDragon | of the Carrier - Interceptor Beams weapon |
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| 01:33.24 | supershwa | hmm that didn't seem to do it |
| 01:33.49 | BorgDragon | really? hmmm |
| 01:36.23 | BorgDragon | maybe modify the Interceptor units |
| 01:36.32 | BorgDragon | Movement - Strafe Radius field |
| 01:38.36 | supershwa | odd it's definitely the weapon - I changed the Interceptor units' Combad - Weapons + value to Auto-Turret - 12mm and they don't loiter anymore |
| 01:39.07 | J-Man_ | interesting |
| 01:39.12 | J-Man_ | is it faster now? |
| 01:40.12 | supershwa | the interceptors don't do circles around their target if I change the weapon...so Carrier - Interceptor Beam is absolutely what's supposed to cause the loitering actions of the interceptors |
| 01:40.26 | J-Man_ | oic |
| 01:40.49 | J-Man_ | do the weapons create units? |
| 01:42.17 | BorgDragon | well |
| 01:42.21 | BorgDragon | the carrier's weapon |
| 01:42.24 | BorgDragon | IS the interceptor |
| 01:42.27 | BorgDragon | which is an actual unit |
| 01:44.33 | supershwa | and the interceptor beams somehow contain the strafing info...trying to track it down |
| 01:44.40 | BorgDragon | I wish I could view my models in the editor |
| 01:44.46 | BorgDragon | i mean |
| 01:44.56 | BorgDragon | when I've attached all that I need to and tweaked color/scale |
| 01:45.05 | BorgDragon | instead of having to "test in game" just to see if it's good |
| 01:46.16 | supershwa | no kidding...there used to be a model previewer in wc3 |
| 01:46.34 | BorgDragon | of individual models? |
| 01:46.39 | BorgDragon | or of your completed work |
| 01:46.47 | BorgDragon | I can view individual models |
| 01:46.52 | J-Man_ | can't you kind of test them in the terrain editor? |
| 01:46.52 | supershwa | ah right |
| 01:47.01 | BorgDragon | J-Man... |
| 01:47.04 | BorgDragon | that's a good idea |
| 01:47.08 | BorgDragon | why did I never think of that |
| 01:47.15 | J-Man_ | won't work for animations ofc |
| 01:47.35 | J-Man_ | glad i could help :) |
| 01:47.52 | BorgDragon | the animations aren't the problem though :P |
| 01:48.11 | BorgDragon | those are simple enough, viewable in the Previewer itself |
| 01:48.55 | nolliepoper | Borg I tried your advice with the unit actor and got really confused. |
| 01:49.08 | nolliepoper | wut do quit? |
| 01:49.47 | nolliepoper | Lets say, play anim A |
| 01:49.51 | nolliepoper | idk wut a iz. |
| 01:50.37 | BorgDragon | go to the editor |
| 01:50.39 | BorgDragon | and press |
| 01:50.42 | BorgDragon | Shift + Control + V |
| 01:50.57 | BorgDragon | it opens the Previewer Window |
| 01:51.06 | BorgDragon | find the unit who's animations you want to look at |
| 01:51.07 | J-Man_ | booyah |
| 01:51.39 | BorgDragon | no one unit has an animation called ' A ' |
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| 01:51.58 | nolliepoper | yeah it just says letters like A and B |
| 01:52.05 | J-Man_ | that's rock-n-rollin |
| 01:52.09 | BorgDragon | that's Spell A |
| 01:52.15 | BorgDragon | or Spell B |
| 01:53.04 | nolliepoper | and that is where I am lost. |
| 01:53.09 | BorgDragon | why ? |
| 01:53.15 | BorgDragon | in the actor events ? |
| 01:53.19 | nolliepoper | Yes |
| 01:53.31 | BorgDragon | ok, so again, which unit, and what do you want it to look like? |
| 01:53.35 | nolliepoper | AnimPlay A A |
| 01:53.37 | BorgDragon | the high templar using his hands, right ? |
| 01:53.46 | BorgDragon | AnimPlay A A does not play any animation |
| 01:53.58 | J-Man_ | dude dark probe ftw |
| 01:54.06 | nolliepoper | no I am trying to have my high templar clone cast spells |
| 01:54.10 | BorgDragon | ok |
| 01:54.11 | J-Man_ | that's my new favorite model |
| 01:54.32 | BorgDragon | did you duplicate the High Templar actor |
| 01:54.32 | nolliepoper | or just use his abiltiy |
| 01:54.34 | Dustin | Oh hai guys |
| 01:54.34 | BorgDragon | or just create new |
| 01:54.38 | BorgDragon | hey Dustin |
| 01:54.40 | nolliepoper | it is duped. |
| 01:54.43 | BorgDragon | ok |
| 01:54.44 | nolliepoper | the unit actor only |
| 01:54.49 | BorgDragon | then you should be setup already, nollie |
| 01:54.55 | BorgDragon | you will ntoice in the actor field |
| 01:55.00 | nolliepoper | I am trying to make 10 custom spells |
| 01:55.39 | BorgDragon | oh wow, I was wrong, oh well mine's safer I guess. |
| 01:55.45 | BorgDragon | ok |
| 01:55.49 | BorgDragon | so for your actor |
| 01:55.53 | BorgDragon | you would have like |
| 01:56.10 | nolliepoper | do I need 10 more actors or just use the actor unit? |
| 01:56.20 | BorgDragon | just use the actor unit |
| 01:56.25 | BorgDragon | Open it's Events + field |
| 01:56.33 | BorgDragon | search for Abil.Feedback.SourceCastStart |
| 01:56.34 | nolliepoper | Already opened |
| 01:57.01 | BorgDragon | you will see PlayAnim A A |
| 01:57.06 | nolliepoper | yep |
| 01:57.16 | nolliepoper | no it says |
| 01:57.17 | nolliepoper | B B |
| 01:57.19 | BorgDragon | my bad, Play A A does do something, but my way is... just longer, my bad lol |
| 01:57.27 | BorgDragon | B B or A A it doesn't matter ;P |
| 01:57.35 | nolliepoper | what does those letter mean |
| 01:57.43 | BorgDragon | the first A |
| 01:57.46 | BorgDragon | is the name of the animation |
| 01:58.09 | BorgDragon | first B sorry |
| 01:58.15 | BorgDragon | second B is the animation itself |
| 01:58.28 | BorgDragon | now, if you open the Previewer window (Ctrl + Shift + V) |
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| 01:58.44 | BorgDragon | search Units -> Protoss - High Templar |
| 01:58.49 | Dustin | Do you guys have the multiple trigger categories problem? |
| 01:58.54 | Tordy | hi dustin browder |
| 01:59.07 | Dustin | sup |
| 01:59.18 | BorgDragon | and double click on the High Templar.M3 |
| 01:59.29 | J-Man_ | multiple trigger categories? |
| 01:59.40 | BorgDragon | you will now see High Templar just doing his regular standing animation when he's not moving |
| 02:00.07 | BorgDragon | bottom right of the previewer window |
| 02:00.08 | J-Man_ | he's such a balla' |
| 02:00.08 | nolliepoper | sec |
| 02:00.11 | Dustin | When I add an action the left listbox |
| 02:00.15 | nolliepoper | need to find him |
| 02:00.19 | BorgDragon | k |
| 02:00.19 | J-Man_ | ht, just chillin'.... |
| 02:00.21 | Dustin | Ill SS it |
| 02:00.23 | Dustin | one sec |
| 02:00.39 | J-Man_ | aiur respresentin' |
| 02:01.08 | nolliepoper | ok |
| 02:01.14 | nolliepoper | I just opened the model |
| 02:01.22 | BorgDragon | bottom right of the previewer window |
| 02:01.27 | BorgDragon | you will see a red bar, and under it |
| 02:01.33 | BorgDragon | a green bar with Stand (3) in it |
| 02:01.42 | BorgDragon | right click the green bar, choose Change Animation |
| 02:01.45 | BorgDragon | then change it to Spell B |
| 02:01.58 | BorgDragon | that's what your High Templar will do when using Abil.Feedback |
| 02:02.18 | BorgDragon | your actor Events+ is basically saying "If unit uses Feedback, then play animation B" |
| 02:02.35 | BorgDragon | which translate directly to Abil.Feedback.SourceCastStart -> AnimPlay B B |
| 02:03.00 | nolliepoper | o so I will have to make new actors for explosions on targets? |
| 02:03.05 | BorgDragon | yes |
| 02:03.15 | BorgDragon | then |
| 02:03.28 | BorgDragon | when you want your explosion to show up during certain spells |
| 02:04.16 | BorgDragon | just take a look at EMP |
| 02:04.41 | BorgDragon | GhostEMPAttackImpactEffect |
| 02:04.46 | BorgDragon | is the 'EMP explosion' |
| 02:05.11 | BorgDragon | setup in it's actor as Effect.EMPSearch.Start -> Create |
| 02:05.28 | BorgDragon | so whenever the EMPSearch effect is created through your ability, it creates thee xplosion |
| 02:05.39 | BorgDragon | so it doesn't matter who you give the EMP to, it will play eitherway |
| 02:05.49 | nolliepoper | which actor? |
| 02:05.53 | BorgDragon | the explosion |
| 02:06.11 | J-Man_ | can i slow down an animation? |
| 02:06.15 | nolliepoper | so always use actor type model instead of action? |
| 02:06.22 | BorgDragon | action actors |
| 02:06.32 | BorgDragon | are basically for missiles |
| 02:06.34 | BorgDragon | beams |
| 02:06.45 | BorgDragon | mostly Weapons related |
| 02:07.16 | BorgDragon | but if you are launching a missile |
| 02:07.24 | BorgDragon | before the explosion, you would need Action Actor |
| 02:07.37 | BorgDragon | even if it's a spell and not a weapon-based |
| 02:10.08 | nolliepoper | How to learn more about what each part of the events mean, I've already seen Prozaic's tuts and they don't explain much but just show. |
| 02:10.20 | Mephs | events are what they sound like |
| 02:10.26 | Mephs | when event happens, do A. |
| 02:10.49 | BorgDragon | I learned by copying everything else |
| 02:10.58 | BorgDragon | now I just do it from scatch 100% |
| 02:12.07 | nolliepoper | That is where I want to be create from scratch so I know what exactly is. |
| 02:12.15 | nolliepoper | but I having trouble relating in the events. |
| 02:12.37 | nolliepoper | need more explainations instead of just here it is... |
| 02:13.49 | BorgDragon | literally I would just do all the Actor tutorials |
| 02:14.17 | BorgDragon | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/1047-data-adding-sfx-to-abilities/ |
| 02:14.41 | J-Man_ | so i have an ability that fires a search effect (aura) that applies another effect (heal). i want an animation to show for all the targets, but i just can't seem to get it working |
| 02:14.50 | Dustin | Time to code a missile system since the data editor wont let me make a damn missile fly straight =/ |
| 02:14.53 | J-Man_ | if i hook it to the ability, it only shows on the caster. |
| 02:15.10 | J-Man_ | if i hook it to the end effect, it only shows on the first target |
| 02:15.19 | BorgDragon | JMan |
| 02:15.24 | BorgDragon | hook it to the Behavior |
| 02:15.33 | J-Man_ | there is no behaviour |
| 02:15.38 | BorgDragon | should be |
| 02:15.46 | J-Man_ | behaviour - add effect? |
| 02:15.57 | BorgDragon | Behavior's effect |
| 02:16.01 | BorgDragon | would be the heal |
| 02:16.14 | BorgDragon | in the event for the animation to show on targets being healed |
| 02:16.16 | BorgDragon | would be like |
| 02:16.30 | BorgDragon | Behavior.Heal.On -> Create |
| 02:16.37 | Cornelius | does anyone know where i can find a Tutorial to create/save/load banks? i looked on sc2mapster but couldnt find any detailed ones. (ive never worked with banks before) thanks |
| 02:16.39 | BorgDragon | Behavior.Heal.Off -> Destroy |
| 02:16.48 | BorgDragon | and that is it |
| 02:17.00 | BorgDragon | that's your entire actor at the very basic |
| 02:17.01 | J-Man_ | what kind of behavior would it be? |
| 02:17.04 | BorgDragon | Buff |
| 02:18.23 | J-Man_ | how can i heal from a buff? i thought behaviors were more permanent |
| 02:18.38 | BorgDragon | you put a duration on the behavior |
| 02:19.12 | BorgDragon | you can also validate behaviors too |
| 02:19.15 | J-Man_ | i can't find the modification to add health |
| 02:19.32 | J-Man_ | just max |
| 02:20.03 | BorgDragon | scroll down |
| 02:20.06 | BorgDragon | Regeneration Bonus |
| 02:20.17 | J-Man_ | oic regen over x time |
| 02:20.21 | J-Man_ | makes sense |
| 02:20.22 | BorgDragon | or if you just want a 1 time heal of 100 |
| 02:20.30 | BorgDragon | you do not do a modification |
| 02:20.36 | BorgDragon | through the behavior |
| 02:21.04 | J-Man_ | what is the regen number? is it points per game second? |
| 02:21.49 | BorgDragon | i don't know the exact numbers |
| 02:21.52 | BorgDragon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rafqhgvaOEs |
| 02:21.54 | J-Man_ | ok |
| 02:21.56 | BorgDragon | here's a healing fountain |
| 02:21.59 | BorgDragon | which is basically an aura heal |
| 02:22.08 | BorgDragon | by onetwosc |
| 02:22.22 | BorgDragon | there are various ways of doing the heal fountain |
| 02:22.33 | BorgDragon | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/1582-video-data-aura-abilities/ |
| 02:22.38 | BorgDragon | this one is Aura Abilities in general |
| 02:22.53 | BorgDragon | you can change it to suit your needs |
| 02:23.02 | BorgDragon | first is specific, second is broader |
| 02:23.31 | Cornelius | does anyone know where i can find a Tutorial to create/save/load banks? i looked on sc2mapster but couldnt find any detailed ones. (ive never worked with banks before) |
| 02:23.47 | BorgDragon | nope, not me Cornelius |
| 02:28.23 | J-Man_ | wow. epic fail by IE |
| 02:29.38 | BorgDragon | ? |
| 02:29.50 | J-Man_ | i clicked on that link and IE minimized |
| 02:30.05 | J-Man_ | then for a couple minutes, every time i tried to bring it back up, it instantly minimized |
| 02:30.32 | J-Man_ | w00t! now my ability does nothing :) |
| 02:31.16 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 02:31.22 | J-Man_ | awesome! it works now |
| 02:31.23 | BorgDragon | why you using IE in the first place? :P |
| 02:31.31 | nolliepoper | AnimPlay {} Spell |
| 02:31.35 | nolliepoper | he does that forever now. |
| 02:31.44 | J-Man_ | cuz me and IE are secretly butt-buddies |
| 02:31.51 | BorgDragon | LOL J |
| 02:32.01 | J-Man_ | i'm not proud of it |
| 02:32.07 | BorgDragon | are you specifying WHEN you want Spell anim to play? |
| 02:32.16 | BorgDragon | or just telling it to play right away |
| 02:33.13 | nolliepoper | no he starts right when I need him too |
| 02:33.18 | BorgDragon | then never stops? |
| 02:33.19 | nolliepoper | to* but then he never stops |
| 02:33.31 | BorgDragon | make sure in the Properites |
| 02:33.40 | BorgDragon | Properties* of the PlayAnim |
| 02:33.45 | BorgDragon | that PlayForever is not checkmarked |
| 02:34.32 | nolliepoper | on the actor unit? |
| 02:34.41 | BorgDragon | yes |
| 02:34.48 | BorgDragon | OMG TLO is going to be on Day9 tonight |
| 02:34.57 | BorgDragon | saweeet |
| 02:36.51 | J-Man_ | hmmm... |
| 02:38.03 | J-Man_ | so i have a validator: less than/fraction/shields/1 |
| 02:38.15 | J-Man_ | will it not fire if shields are 0? |
| 02:38.31 | J-Man_ | wait no |
| 02:38.41 | J-Man_ | the animation fired |
| 02:38.48 | BorgDragon | greater than |
| 02:38.51 | BorgDragon | validators return FALSE |
| 02:38.59 | supershwa | !FOUND IT! The "Carrier - Interceptor - Interceptor Beam (Persistend Damage)" Effect "Atttachment - Container Site Operations +" Property needs to have "SOpAttachHarness" and "SOpForwardTargetPoint" values removed in order to disable the wandering/loitering of the Interceptors. Once removed, the Interceptors sit static and attack instead of doing circles around targets. |
| 02:39.12 | BorgDragon | Equal or Grater Than |
| 02:39.19 | deathnight114 | What server is day9's irc channel on? |
| 02:39.35 | BorgDragon | no idea |
| 02:39.44 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 02:40.01 | deathnight114 | http://day9fan.com/irc I found it here, but i'd prefer to be on it w/ my IRC Cleint |
| 02:40.35 | J-Man_ | no, that doesn't work |
| 02:40.46 | J-Man_ | it's a behavior remove validator |
| 02:43.48 | BorgDragon | chat01.ustream.tv #day9tv |
| 02:44.03 | BorgDragon | apparently |
| 02:45.48 | BorgDragon | nice find supershwa |
| 02:46.06 | BorgDragon | did you try removing ONLY SOpAttachHarness? |
| 02:46.30 | BorgDragon | but you are probably correct in having to remove both... |
| 02:46.40 | BorgDragon | Harness probably "tethers" the interceptor to its target |
| 02:46.54 | BorgDragon | and ForwardTargetPoint makes him fly past target and come back for another dive |
| 02:47.01 | BorgDragon | thats what I am thinking |
| 02:48.10 | BorgDragon | cmon play some funky music already Day9 |
| 02:48.20 | BorgDragon | 12 minutes till daily |
| 02:48.20 | J-Man_ | oh i see what's going on |
| 02:48.36 | J-Man_ | i'm upping the sheidl regen, but they still have to not be hit for 10 seconds |
| 02:49.08 | BorgDragon | woot |
| 02:49.45 | J-Man_ | can i change the shield regen delay anywhere? |
| 02:49.51 | BorgDragon | yes |
| 02:49.56 | BorgDragon | on the units themselves |
| 02:50.40 | J-Man_ | in a behavior that is |
| 02:50.50 | J-Man_ | i only want it to be temporary... which is problematic |
| 02:51.35 | BorgDragon | oh |
| 02:51.36 | BorgDragon | hmm |
| 02:53.30 | J-Man_ | i really just want to recharge shields in an aura and have an effect for it |
| 02:53.57 | BorgDragon | basically it looks like |
| 02:54.02 | BorgDragon | you would have to... |
| 02:54.08 | BorgDragon | no wait that wouldn't work either |
| 02:54.23 | BorgDragon | or wait... |
| 02:54.23 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 02:54.30 | J-Man_ | behavior - effect - initial? |
| 02:54.39 | J-Man_ | add shields |
| 02:55.09 | BorgDragon | well |
| 02:55.13 | BorgDragon | that's not changing the delay |
| 02:55.31 | J-Man_ | the delay is nice, but not necessary |
| 02:55.39 | J-Man_ | oh nvm |
| 02:55.49 | J-Man_ | but from an effect i can just add shields |
| 02:55.54 | J-Man_ | not regen, just add |
| 02:56.09 | J-Man_ | from a behavior i have to do the regen, which doesn't work for shields exactly |
| 02:56.36 | BorgDragon | found it! |
| 02:56.45 | BorgDragon | I can suppress shield regen |
| 02:56.59 | J-Man_ | yes? |
| 02:57.04 | BorgDragon | oh nevermind, why didn' |
| 02:57.09 | BorgDragon | didn't i read what you said first |
| 02:57.12 | BorgDragon | that won't help you |
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| 02:57.43 | J-Man_ | yeah that's the wrong direction |
| 02:58.08 | J-Man_ | i could actually have the behavior do a periodic effect to add shields |
| 02:58.18 | BorgDragon | no wait! |
| 02:58.41 | BorgDragon | bah, nevermind again |
| 02:58.48 | BorgDragon | I'm going to go "Eureka! |
| 02:58.54 | BorgDragon | then go 'Nevermind' |
| 02:58.58 | BorgDragon | BEFORE typing |
| 02:59.02 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 02:59.29 | BorgDragon | it your behavior does periodic to add shields |
| 02:59.44 | J-Man_ | the behavior fires the animation |
| 02:59.46 | BorgDragon | then how is that a shield recharge after 10 seconds of non-combat ? |
| 03:00.12 | J-Man_ | no i want the spell to ignore the regular shield regen delay |
| 03:00.25 | BorgDragon | you mean, not trigger combat? |
| 03:00.46 | J-Man_ | i might have it stop if you get hit |
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| 03:00.56 | doite | What does this mean? |
| 03:00.57 | doite | Open the Trigger Editor and make sure you set the PlayerUnit variable to your main unit. |
| 03:00.57 | J-Man_ | but i don't want to have to wait 10 seconds to cast the spell |
| 03:01.12 | BorgDragon | don't wait 10 to cast the spell |
| 03:01.17 | BorgDragon | have your behavior suppress shield regen |
| 03:01.19 | BorgDragon | last 10 seconds |
| 03:01.27 | BorgDragon | final effect - add shield |
| 03:01.31 | J-Man_ | supress shield regen? |
| 03:01.36 | J-Man_ | nonono |
| 03:01.41 | J-Man_ | i don't want to supress it |
| 03:01.55 | J-Man_ | the point is that the effect should work even if they wouldn't normally regen shields |
| 03:02.00 | J-Man_ | so you just got out of combat |
| 03:02.04 | J-Man_ | cast the spell |
| 03:02.15 | J-Man_ | if it's a behavior that added the regen, it doesn't work |
| 03:02.20 | J-Man_ | because you're in a delay |
| 03:02.21 | BorgDragon | oh |
| 03:02.24 | BorgDragon | I see |
| 03:02.28 | J-Man_ | that's what i *don't* want |
| 03:02.29 | BorgDragon | then just add shields then |
| 03:02.32 | J-Man_ | i want it to work |
| 03:02.50 | J-Man_ | yeah, when it was just an effect tho, it didn't trigger the animations properly |
| 03:03.01 | BorgDragon | it should trigger no amtter what |
| 03:03.02 | J-Man_ | so i need the behavior to trigger the effect |
| 03:03.06 | BorgDragon | just setup your events properly |
| 03:03.08 | BorgDragon | like |
| 03:03.10 | J-Man_ | it wasn't working |
| 03:03.19 | BorgDragon | Effect.ShieldPeriodic.Start ->create |
| 03:03.27 | doite | Guys |
| 03:03.33 | doite | please, Open the Trigger Editor and make sure you set the PlayerUnit variable to your main unit. |
| 03:03.36 | BorgDragon | I'm not a trigger person |
| 03:03.36 | doite | Whats does that mean? |
| 03:03.51 | BorgDragon | I can add minerals/vespene, do the camera sort of, and play sound |
| 03:03.52 | doite | Oh yea thats right |
| 03:03.52 | doite | =) |
| 03:03.53 | BorgDragon | nothign else, lol |
| 03:03.56 | J-Man_ | it doesn't mean much |
| 03:04.03 | J-Man_ | what's the context? |
| 03:04.08 | doite | First person mode |
| 03:04.20 | doite | or third |
| 03:04.21 | J-Man_ | ok, so you're using someone's library? |
| 03:04.23 | doite | Yea |
| 03:04.23 | BorgDragon | change the Variable to the unit you are using |
| 03:04.29 | J-Man_ | open the trigger editor |
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| 03:04.31 | BorgDragon | so, if your unit is a marine or whatnot |
| 03:04.31 | doite | Yea |
| 03:04.36 | doite | Ghost |
| 03:04.36 | BorgDragon | change the variable to marine |
| 03:04.39 | BorgDragon | ok, Ghost |
| 03:04.45 | doite | GHOST BORG! |
| 03:04.46 | doite | =) |
| 03:04.48 | doite | Yea but |
| 03:04.48 | BorgDragon | no |
| 03:04.50 | doite | How? |
| 03:04.50 | BorgDragon | BorgGhost |
| 03:04.54 | doite | BG |
| 03:04.58 | BorgDragon | Baldur's Gate |
| 03:05.01 | doite | =( |
| 03:05.04 | BorgDragon | mmmm, best game ever |
| 03:05.06 | J-Man_ | there should be a melee initialization trigger in there somewhere |
| 03:05.19 | J-Man_ | something that fires at the beginning of the game |
| 03:05.23 | doite | Variable to marine |
| 03:05.23 | doite | Ok |
| 03:05.26 | doite | But what variable |
| 03:05.32 | J-Man_ | add an action |
| 03:05.34 | J-Man_ | set variable |
| 03:05.37 | doite | Yea |
| 03:05.43 | doite | But what sort of variable |
| 03:05.48 | doite | Unit? |
| 03:05.50 | J-Man_ | there should be a PlayerUnit variable already |
| 03:06.03 | J-Man_ | from his library |
| 03:06.06 | doite | Oh... as in the library |
| 03:06.09 | J-Man_ | yes |
| 03:06.12 | doite | ok.. i dont know how these things work |
| 03:06.14 | doite | Ok ill try |
| 03:06.15 | doite | Sec |
| 03:06.28 | J-Man_ | did you put your unit on the field already? |
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| 03:06.39 | doite | yea |
| 03:06.52 | J-Man_ | set it to type value, then find that |
| 03:07.03 | J-Man_ | eventually you'll probably want to create your unit in triggers |
| 03:07.07 | J-Man_ | but for now that will work |
| 03:07.14 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.16 | doite | Done! |
| 03:07.17 | doite | GG |
| 03:07.20 | doite | Ill publish |
| 03:07.20 | doite | =) |
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| 03:07.42 | doite | Yea i know but its a start |
| 03:08.17 | Mephs | DO IT |
| 03:10.40 | J-Man_ | that works awesomely! |
| 03:10.45 | Dustin | hmmm |
| 03:11.30 | doite | the camera is down on ground level |
| 03:11.44 | doite | but its locked in a position... |
| 03:11.49 | doite | Doesnt follow the unit |
| 03:12.08 | doite | The aim and stuff (and movement) works |
| 03:12.24 | J-Man_ | you're probably missing another piece |
| 03:12.34 | J-Man_ | did you read through all the library docs? |
| 03:13.40 | doite | Located inside the library? |
| 03:14.28 | J-Man_ | or at the resource page |
| 03:20.36 | doite | ? |
| 03:20.41 | doite | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/trigger-libraries/7277-third-person-shooter-tps-engine-download-if-you-need/ |
| 03:20.43 | doite | this one |
| 03:31.30 | RodOfNOD | hey MindWorX` |
| 03:32.28 | MindWorX` | Hey Rod :) |
| 03:32.29 | MindWorX` | Whatup? |
| 03:32.36 | RodOfNOD | nm u?> |
| 03:33.32 | MindWorX` | Same |
| 03:33.44 | MindWorX` | Looking at an awesome gamemode/mod/thingy for Garrys Mod 10 |
| 03:33.48 | MindWorX` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yxARD8aYok |
| 03:34.09 | MindWorX` | Looks identical to Fallout 3, but with the much better controls of Source |
| 03:35.03 | RodOfNOD | anyone used catalog in scope? |
| 03:35.09 | RodOfNOD | fun |
| 03:35.16 | MindWorX` | catalog in scope? |
| 03:35.21 | RodOfNOD | ya |
| 03:35.27 | RodOfNOD | for sc2 |
| 03:35.36 | MindWorX` | What do you mean "in scope" ? |
| 03:35.41 | MindWorX` | I've used the catalog natives? |
| 03:35.45 | MindWorX` | Working nicely |
| 03:35.53 | RodOfNOD | part of my issue is its shit names |
| 03:36.48 | RodOfNOD | http://pastebin.com/2Xd2vvm9 |
| 03:37.15 | RodOfNOD | larvas it appears have a bad apple in this case a second zergling train that does nothing i want mycode to ignore it |
| 03:37.33 | RodOfNOD | that code works however.... itcauses a error that im trying to avoid by the interpreter |
| 03:37.58 | RodOfNOD | Train6 doesnt exist so it kicks out an error |
| 03:38.53 | RodOfNOD | 00:00:08.81 Trigger Error in 'lib1_gt_ButtonChangedSelection_Func': Catalog field 'InfoArray[Train6].Unit[0]' could not be read (Core: a required object could not be found) -error i get |
| 03:43.23 | doite | Is it possible to hide the health bar over units heads? |
| 03:47.20 | Bounty | Hey guys |
| 03:47.25 | Bounty | New Win the Crowd Video :) |
| 03:47.30 | Bounty | I think you guys will really like this one |
| 03:47.32 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Vv0sEO1sc |
| 03:56.16 | supershwa | doite - that's a setting in game options |
| 03:56.42 | doite | So i cant let ppl not choose that |
| 03:56.50 | doite | They have to choose for em selfs? |
| 03:56.52 | supershwa | "Always show health bar" or something like that. It's not a map option to my knowledge -- it's a game option |
| 03:56.53 | doite | Dammit.. |
| 03:56.54 | supershwa | I think so |
| 03:57.03 | supershwa | I'm not positive -- there may be a workaround |
| 03:57.18 | doite | K thanks anyway |
| 03:57.28 | supershwa | np -- keep asking these guys...they know their stuff |
| 03:57.53 | doite | Do anyone know a good terrain for a city map |
| 03:57.56 | doite | First person |
| 03:58.17 | doite | Its more the walls on a raised cliff thats important |
| 03:58.24 | doite | Korhal does do the jobb |
| 04:05.08 | BorgDragon | Bounty, I like the new UI |
| 04:05.28 | Bounty | what do u think of the new system? |
| 04:05.35 | Bounty | thats only phase 1 of it |
| 04:06.00 | Bounty | right now it just gives u double or triple the crowd favor depending on how high your team can chain a combo |
| 04:06.19 | Bounty | eventually itll cut to a cutscene |
| 04:06.19 | BorgDragon | nice combos! |
| 04:06.23 | Bounty | if u get some riddiculas number |
| 04:06.25 | Bounty | like 1,000 hits |
| 04:06.32 | Bounty | goes to cutscene |
| 04:06.37 | Bounty | and ur team does some insane attack |
| 04:06.45 | Bounty | yeah we got to 176 |
| 04:06.45 | BorgDragon | your team just sitting down at the bar |
| 04:06.48 | BorgDragon | having a drink |
| 04:06.49 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:06.54 | BorgDragon | and the arena explodes |
| 04:06.58 | BorgDragon | Game Over, you win |
| 04:07.00 | BorgDragon | 1k combo |
| 04:07.02 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 04:07.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:07.11 | Bounty | its pretty hard to organize the shit we did in that video |
| 04:07.12 | BorgDragon | the bosses all walk out |
| 04:07.14 | Bounty | that video |
| 04:07.15 | BorgDragon | and beg for mercy |
| 04:07.16 | Bounty | was like |
| 04:07.17 | BorgDragon | slack jawed |
| 04:07.18 | Bounty | 45 minutes |
| 04:07.22 | Bounty | until i edited it |
| 04:07.26 | Bounty | to the parts that we succeeded |
| 04:07.34 | BorgDragon | hey |
| 04:07.40 | BorgDragon | the 'Unbelievable!' |
| 04:07.45 | BorgDragon | was that you that added that |
| 04:07.50 | BorgDragon | or does that pop up via trigger? |
| 04:07.58 | Bounty | trigger |
| 04:08.01 | BorgDragon | nice |
| 04:08.04 | Bounty | 100+ combo chain = WoW! |
| 04:08.08 | Bounty | and doubles your crowd favor |
| 04:08.10 | BorgDragon | any accompanying Sound Effects? |
| 04:08.22 | Bounty | 150+ = Unbelievebable! and triples your gain |
| 04:08.24 | Bounty | yeah |
| 04:08.30 | Bounty | u hear the counter? |
| 04:08.33 | BorgDragon | no |
| 04:08.36 | Bounty | when we get to 100+ u can hear it counting |
| 04:08.36 | BorgDragon | just heard the music mostly |
| 04:08.39 | BorgDragon | and the 100 hits lol |
| 04:08.43 | Bounty | listen |
| 04:08.46 | Bounty | u can hear it |
| 04:08.53 | Bounty | after 100 it plays a counter per combo hit |
| 04:08.59 | Bounty | to let u know uve gone beyond 100 |
| 04:09.03 | Bounty | and the crowd cheers |
| 04:09.09 | Bounty | at 150+ the crowd gasps :) |
| 04:09.47 | BorgDragon | oh ok |
| 04:09.51 | BorgDragon | ya I can hear the sounds |
| 04:09.54 | BorgDragon | the counting and stuff |
| 04:10.08 | BorgDragon | but |
| 04:11.46 | Bounty | but? |
| 04:12.42 | BorgDragon | i was looking for the sounds |
| 04:12.43 | BorgDragon | i found them |
| 04:12.54 | BorgDragon | ModUtility voices |
| 04:13.07 | BorgDragon | Fantastic! Hardcore! Epic! |
| 04:13.09 | Bounty | yeah uh |
| 04:13.10 | Bounty | no |
| 04:13.11 | Bounty | im not using those |
| 04:13.16 | BorgDragon | lol, ok then |
| 04:13.17 | Bounty | sorry man but those voices |
| 04:13.19 | Bounty | are so fucking lame |
| 04:13.22 | BorgDragon | sure |
| 04:13.28 | Bounty | they could have done so much better lol |
| 04:13.31 | BorgDragon | but flashing some text on my screen is meh |
| 04:13.36 | BorgDragon | ;P |
| 04:13.41 | Bounty | its better then that announcers voice |
| 04:14.18 | BorgDragon | import some from other games then :P |
| 04:14.31 | BorgDragon | they're not that big files |
| 04:15.31 | Bounty | im at 10.1mb |
| 04:15.34 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:15.41 | Bounty | and i still got alot more content to add |
| 04:16.05 | BorgDragon | oh |
| 04:16.07 | BorgDragon | lol nvm then |
| 04:16.29 | doite | Mr Data editor |
| 04:16.35 | doite | If i would like to make it night |
| 04:16.40 | BorgDragon | yes doite ? |
| 04:16.43 | doite | Is it only though data editor i do that |
| 04:16.52 | doite | Or is it though "time" triggers? |
| 04:16.54 | BorgDragon | i believe so |
| 04:17.05 | BorgDragon | edit the lighting |
| 04:17.12 | BorgDragon | and then trigger the time changes I believe ? |
| 04:17.18 | BorgDragon | I never played with the lighting |
| 04:17.30 | BorgDragon | except to get my black/white combic book style |
| 04:17.33 | BorgDragon | comic* |
| 04:17.34 | doite | =) |
| 04:17.47 | BorgDragon | hey Bounty, what do you use to record? |
| 04:17.52 | BorgDragon | i hate fraps... 30 second limit :\ |
| 04:17.53 | Bounty | Fraps |
| 04:18.12 | Bounty | Did you try downloading it from a "differant" site? |
| 04:18.17 | BorgDragon | ... no |
| 04:18.19 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 04:18.21 | BorgDragon | should I ? |
| 04:18.23 | Bounty | You should |
| 04:18.29 | BorgDragon | then I will! |
| 04:18.30 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 04:26.10 | J-Man_ | so i need 3 computers for my game, but i don't want them to show up in the lobby... |
| 04:28.40 | J-Man_ | i' |
| 04:28.45 | J-Man_ | i'm not sure how i can do that |
| 04:30.42 | Saeris | hey sixen, i've got another idea for a contest |
| 04:31.26 | supershwa | J-Man, in Player Properties, does Player -> Control -> Computer not work? I take it computer players are appearing in the lobby? |
| 04:31.55 | Saeris | take a screenshot of a scene from one of your favorite games, and recreate it in SC2 the best you can using only SC2 assets. (of course, you can't take a SC2 screenshot as a source =P) |
| 04:32.29 | supershwa | just 1 frame? not an entire scene/sequence? |
| 04:32.40 | supershwa | @saeris |
| 04:32.59 | Saeris | you could i guess, but that could take longer than a week to reproduce |
| 04:33.05 | supershwa | heh y |
| 04:33.06 | supershwa | a |
| 04:33.07 | supershwa | ya |
| 04:33.29 | supershwa | Favorite Game or Movie |
| 04:33.30 | supershwa | scene |
| 04:33.55 | supershwa | that would add some creativity to it |
| 04:34.25 | supershwa | SC2:Matrix scene, SC2:Riddick scene, SC2:BrokebackMtn Scene... |
| 04:34.31 | supershwa | heh |
| 04:34.33 | BorgDragon | LOL |
| 04:34.38 | BorgDragon | Brokeback? |
| 04:34.51 | BorgDragon | *shakes his head in disgust* |
| 04:34.54 | BorgDragon | :P |
| 04:34.58 | supershwa | never saw the movie...never want to...just figured I'd throw in something crazy ;p |
| 04:35.02 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 04:35.51 | BorgDragon | not that I actually care about peoples orientation |
| 04:35.55 | BorgDragon | to each their own |
| 04:36.01 | supershwa | anyone know how I can make a weapon fire passively, without your hero/unit being required to stop first? |
| 04:36.14 | BorgDragon | Transient, Allow Movement |
| 04:36.25 | supershwa | lol don't worry man, I don't float that side of the boat anyway |
| 04:36.29 | Saeris | the point of it really would be to show off the versatility of doodads and terraining really. you could go the extra mile by using actor creation to make it even more compelx and all |
| 04:36.39 | supershwa | to each his own, but let's make sure there's no understanding rofl |
| 04:36.45 | supershwa | *misunderstanding |
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| 04:37.25 | J-Man__ | yes, i have the control set to computer, but they're showing up in the lobby |
| 04:37.51 | supershwa | J-Man, Can you use Neutral units instead, or do they need to be computer units? |
| 04:38.05 | J-Man__ | and it says i can't make it public because there are observers |
| 04:38.26 | J-Man__ | they need to be allied with groups of players |
| 04:38.32 | supershwa | eew |
| 04:38.33 | supershwa | gotcha |
| 04:38.54 | J-Man__ | otherwise i'd just use hostile |
| 04:40.33 | J-Man__ | i can't seem to find any way to add them with a trigger |
| 04:40.53 | supershwa | afraid I can't help...am still getting used to this editor...am fluent in programming, gfx, etc., as well as the WC3 editor...still getting used to this one |
| 04:42.13 | supershwa | anyone familiar with a good skybox tutorial, instructions, docs, etc. as advanced as the see-thru floors (like that mars-like planet background...) |
| 04:43.10 | supershwa | ultimately, I'd love to have a skybox that makes it look like you're floating above a planet...just need a good starting point |
| 04:43.53 | supershwa | can do the modeling, fx, sprites, etc...just don't know where to start for creating a proper "floor" skybox or whatever it's called |
| 05:16.45 | J-Man__ | so i have 3 computer players that i need to not show up in the lobby |
| 05:16.58 | J-Man__ | you can remove them, which is a huge problem |
| 05:17.15 | J-Man__ | and it's telling me that i can't make the game public when there are observers |
| 05:17.47 | J-Man__ | can anyone help? |
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| 05:25.04 | nolliepoper | What is Effect - Markers Used |
| 05:25.26 | J-Man__ | i don't get this "option unavailable when observers are present" thing at all |
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| 05:46.38 | lotharscm | anyone here that can help test a map on north america? |
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| 05:52.12 | BorgDragon | bnet is being gay as fuck |
| 05:52.32 | RoarMan | HI BORG! |
| 05:52.36 | BorgDragon | RAWR! |
| 05:52.56 | BorgDragon | I'm trying to play Cantina |
| 05:53.02 | BorgDragon | and bnet is lagging hardcore... |
| 05:53.06 | BorgDragon | I'm the only person in game |
| 05:53.09 | RoarMan | Lol |
| 05:53.12 | RoarMan | BNET so fail |
| 05:53.18 | BorgDragon | keeps doing the timeout thing |
| 05:53.25 | BorgDragon | then gave me the option to surrender |
| 05:53.31 | BorgDragon | so I fuckign left their shit server lol |
| 05:53.32 | RoarMan | My God D2 music is fucking sex in the ears, I never knew till now |
| 05:53.36 | BorgDragon | will try again later |
| 05:53.38 | RoarMan | Lol |
| 05:53.46 | RoarMan | BNET is probably having issues right now :/ |
| 05:54.05 | BorgDragon | probably |
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| 06:07.57 | supershwa | hey guys - you know how to turn a weapon into a "passive attack", where it fires without having to focus on a target? Basically, I need to be able to move a unit AS it attacks others... |
| 06:09.02 | supershwa | ...or maybe a way to set a unit's attack mode to passive? |
| 06:09.18 | supershwa | or "active"...dunno how Blizz would phrase it |
| 06:10.14 | RoarMan | So |
| 06:10.24 | RoarMan | You want to have multiple weapons firing at the same time? |
| 06:10.40 | supershwa | yes |
| 06:10.45 | RoarMan | Ah k |
| 06:10.45 | supershwa | inventory based weapons |
| 06:10.53 | RoarMan | Under Flags in Weapon |
| 06:10.57 | supershwa | so you purchase weapons, they stack, and attack separately, etc |
| 06:11.01 | RoarMan | Uncheck "Linked Cooldown" |
| 06:11.02 | supershwa | dota/bships/btanks style |
| 06:11.09 | RoarMan | Yea I getcha |
| 06:15.43 | supershwa | awesome, you da man Roar....now, how do I get the weapons to fire passively, even as I move the hero? (So the weapons don't require a "unit focus on target" type of event |
| 06:15.57 | RoarMan | Oh |
| 06:16.07 | RoarMan | Allow unit to fire while moving I think |
| 06:16.15 | RoarMan | Will solve that problem |
| 06:16.32 | RoarMan | Under "Allowed Movement" in weapons check "All" |
| 06:16.39 | RoarMan | Or "Any" not sure what it is exactly |
| 06:17.25 | supershwa | I see "Moving", "None" and "Slow"...I changed it to "Moving" and doesn't seem to take effect |
| 06:17.57 | RoarMan | IS it not attacking while moving? |
| 06:18.13 | supershwa | nope |
| 06:18.21 | supershwa | not attacking while moving |
| 06:18.27 | supershwa | has to stand still |
| 06:18.47 | supershwa | even with "Moving" set as the Allowed Movement param in the Weapon |
| 06:19.09 | RoarMan | Wierd |
| 06:19.15 | RoarMan | Does the unit have a turret? |
| 06:19.43 | supershwa | ah, no |
| 06:20.04 | supershwa | no turret |
| 06:20.06 | supershwa | needs one? |
| 06:20.20 | RoarMan | Yea |
| 06:20.34 | RoarMan | If you give it a turret it'll let the unit attack from 360 degrees |
| 06:20.39 | RoarMan | Instead of directly in front |
| 06:20.48 | supershwa | ahh |
| 06:20.55 | RoarMan | Anyways I gtg sleep hopefully you get your problems solved :D |
| 06:21.03 | supershwa | so a weapon + turret does that? No turret and it has to direct to target? |
| 06:21.10 | RoarMan | Yea |
| 06:21.12 | supershwa | Thanks a ton for the help |
| 06:21.16 | supershwa | I appreciate it |
| 06:21.17 | RoarSleep | BBYE |
| 06:21.18 | RoarSleep | Np |
| 06:21.20 | supershwa | night |
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| 06:30.57 | J-Man__ | so i have 3 computer players that i need to not show up in the lobby |
| 06:31.04 | J-Man__ | can anyone help? |
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| 06:47.38 | currydevil | man, that's annoying. how come setting up a double bounty trigger is easy, but setting up double exp isn't =( |
| 06:48.20 | currydevil | they're both fields on a unit set in the de, but you can't pull the exp from the unit with a trigger ... without setting up the info at map start =| |
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| 06:49.34 | Tordy | Are maps broken? |
| 06:49.39 | Tordy | i mean |
| 06:49.42 | Tordy | Are banks broken? |
| 06:49.53 | Tordy | you sure? |
| 06:49.59 | Tordy | anyone out there!? |
| 06:50.02 | Tordy | hi :] |
| 06:50.22 | Tordy | Mephs are you experienced with banks |
| 06:50.27 | currydevil | whaat? |
| 06:50.44 | currydevil | i'm not good btw. |
| 06:50.46 | Tordy | currydevil: are you experienced with banks |
| 06:50.56 | currydevil | ^ |
| 06:51.00 | Tordy | :/ |
| 06:51.20 | Tordy | wel in case you do know, do you know why loading banks would cause people to crash? |
| 06:51.39 | Tordy | or maybe it's the encryption, but im not sure exactly |
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| 06:56.24 | currydevil | hrm, experience values are reals right? not integer? |
| 06:56.48 | currydevil | nvm |
| 06:57.19 | Tordy | here's the thing: it doesn't happen all the time |
| 06:57.26 | Tordy | but when it does happen, it'll happen all the time |
| 06:57.46 | Tordy | loading and saving is working for the most part |
| 06:57.55 | Tordy | but some people report it'll crash 100% |
| 06:58.01 | Tordy | i asked those people to send me their banks |
| 06:58.06 | Tordy | and boom, I crashed 100% when using that bank |
| 06:58.30 | Tordy | which leads me to believe a certain pattern of bits in the bank is what's causing it |
| 06:58.35 | Tordy | certain pattern of strings |
| 06:58.43 | Tordy | something my load triggers aren't liking |
| 06:58.45 | Tordy | im not sure why |
| 06:59.02 | Tordy | :) |
| 06:59.08 | Tordy | (: |
| 07:04.57 | Tordy | soooooo |
| 07:04.58 | Tordy | now what |
| 07:05.00 | Tordy | BORG |
| 07:05.04 | currydevil | yay double exp works now. |
| 07:08.46 | currydevil | except... |
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| 07:39.25 | progammer | the press only interview for bnet is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTB45cx5pA4 |
| 07:39.33 | Tordy | hi progammer |
| 07:39.42 | progammer | talks about custom map is 1st video 9:00 in |
| 07:39.45 | progammer | hi Tordy |
| 07:39.51 | Tordy | wait what |
| 07:41.17 | progammer | sixen is probably in there asking question btw |
| 07:42.13 | Tordy | really |
| 07:42.17 | Tordy | can you tell which one |
| 07:43.14 | Tordy | [01:57] <Tordy> here's the thing: it doesn't happen all the time [01:57] <Tordy> but when it does happen, it'll happen all the time [01:57] <Tordy> loading and saving is working for the most part [01:57] <Tordy> but some people report it'll crash 100% [01:58] <Tordy> i asked those people to send me their banks [01:58] <Tordy> and boom, I crashed 100% when using that bank [01:58] <Tordy> which leads me to believe a certain pattern of |
| 07:44.53 | supershwa | any easy way to make a unit "float" gradually, like a starport in lift mode does, or any other hovering object? |
| 07:45.08 | Tordy | thanks fo rhte tip |
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| 07:47.16 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 07:48.01 | progammer | i will take my guess sixen is in the 2nd video 3:30 in |
| 07:48.18 | Helral|Work | 2nd video? 3.30? |
| 07:49.08 | progammer | [01:39] <progammer> the press only interview for bnet is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTB45cx5pA4 [01:39] <Tordy> hi progammer [01:39] <progammer> talks about custom map is 1st video 9:00 in |
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| 07:57.09 | Demalii | anyone play desert strike and is good? |
| 08:00.40 | progammer_ | wait a minute if sc2legace is lifted dna and release it does it mean patch 1.2 is withnin the week |
| 08:20.13 | progammer_ | vote on http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/14973-battlenet-press-only-interview/ |
| 08:26.02 | Dekar | i think hes the guy sitting on the right D: |
| 08:26.07 | Dekar | so i checked all 4 |
| 08:32.10 | LordAbyss | hello everyone this very late evening |
| 08:32.14 | LordAbyss | or morning |
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| 08:53.37 | Dekar | is it just me or does mapster miss a link to the forum? |
| 08:53.41 | Tordy | what |
| 08:53.48 | Tordy | sc2legacy |
| 08:54.24 | Tordy | so quick summary of important points said in that interview? |
| 08:54.41 | progammer_ | Dekar: which theme are you using |
| 08:54.48 | Dekar | the old one D: |
| 08:54.51 | Dekar | blue |
| 08:55.05 | progammer_ | Dekar: then get a new life |
| 08:55.36 | progammer_ | Tordy: not so many new thing, but it redeem and explain why bnet failed |
| 08:55.52 | Tordy | original bnet failed? |
| 08:55.54 | Tordy | XD |
| 08:56.53 | Dekar | is it just me or cant you switch the skin with the old skin? |
| 08:58.40 | progammer_ | Dekar: which one exactly http://www.sc2mapster.com/themes/ |
| 08:59.28 | Dekar | how am i supposed to know? it was the default one before the switch to orange |
| 09:00.09 | Dekar | which one is the new default theme? |
| 09:00.14 | progammer_ | http://www.sc2mapster.com/themes/profet/ |
| 09:00.34 | Dekar | wow its ugly |
| 09:00.35 | Dekar | >_< |
| 09:01.12 | Dekar | like a construction site |
| 09:01.20 | Dekar | with the black/orange |
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| 09:17.03 | Helral|Work | wants 512x512 maps. |
| 09:17.18 | Saeris | i want maps larger than that >.< |
| 09:17.29 | progammer_ | i want infinite map |
| 09:17.40 | Saeris | i can barely fit a detailed helios one and surrounding terrain into a 256 map |
| 09:18.17 | Saeris | at best this will just be a cool terraining project =( |
| 09:18.19 | progammer_ | food for thought, if d3 is to have a map editor, how big the map size will be ? |
| 09:18.33 | Saeris | it won't, random generation =P |
| 09:18.33 | Helral|Work | with 512x512 I can support 4 players in my map who are playing my RDM at different levels. |
| 09:18.54 | progammer_ | Saeris: even random you go through an entire act without loading |
| 09:19.01 | progammer_ | so the map is pretty big |
| 09:19.38 | Helral|Work | progammer_: what you mean no loading? in D2 the game loaded every area runtime.... |
| 09:20.06 | progammer_ | Helral|Work: nah you just portal everytime |
| 09:20.10 | Saeris | D2 was deceptively big, in sc2 terms it's not that big |
| 09:20.23 | Saeris | D3 on the other hand |
| 09:20.24 | Helral|Work | progammer_: you never played using a slow pc? |
| 09:20.37 | Helral|Work | just walking into the stony field caused the game to lag. |
| 09:20.45 | Saeris | i'd assume the world is stiched together at connecting points, effectively pre-loading other maps |
| 09:20.50 | Helral|Work | because it was being setup at that moment. every next time no lag. |
| 09:20.58 | Arthas- | I can verify that what helral says is true :p |
| 09:21.08 | Saeris | because there's not gonna be a bunch of areas where you can move into more than 2 zones at a time, unless it's like WoW |
| 09:21.17 | Saeris | then i'd imagine something like that system |
| 09:21.40 | progammer_ | like that is possible for d3 |
| 09:22.25 | Saeris | from some photos I've seen, WoW does have a galaxy-like world editor |
| 09:23.23 | Arthas- | isnt that kinda obvious :p |
| 09:23.39 | Saeris | but, even then, the way the terrain is loaded in WoW is in chunks that are just larger than the maximum view distance |
| 09:24.08 | Saeris | so, you'd load multiple chunks into memory for nearby visible zones |
| 09:24.23 | Saeris | i'd imagine D3 works the same way. not just one gigantic map you'd edit |
| 09:25.25 | progammer_ | i probably can make and endless maze by manipulating unit though |
| 09:25.36 | progammer_ | but some limitation to memory included |
| 09:26.17 | Saeris | well |
| 09:26.39 | Saeris | let's say you did have a random-dungeon generator |
| 09:27.38 | Saeris | once you got to an edge, you could generate a new dungeon, store the old in memory, preserve the surroundings, and move your unit instantly across the map to give the illusion of an infinite dungeon |
| 09:27.56 | progammer_ | that's what i said, but memory is not infinite |
| 09:27.57 | Arthas- | why store the old one? |
| 09:28.04 | Arthas- | why not store the initial seed for that level |
| 09:28.06 | Arthas- | and rebuild it |
| 09:28.06 | Saeris | in case you want to go backwards =P |
| 09:28.16 | Saeris | well, that works too i guess |
| 09:28.35 | Saeris | i'm not incredibly familiar with seed based generation |
| 09:29.39 | progammer_ | Arthas-: can work |
| 09:30.26 | Arthas- | well, it would be more conservative (correct word?) on the memory at least :p |
| 09:30.35 | progammer_ | fun thing about infinite maze is you can seriously get lost forever if you wander too far |
| 09:30.45 | Saeris | yea |
| 09:31.03 | Saeris | i mean, first thing that came to mind in this discussion was Torchlight |
| 09:31.15 | Saeris | you could have a floors type system |
| 09:31.27 | Saeris | point a to point b with a huge random maze in between |
| 09:31.42 | Saeris | so you could go infinitely deep into a dungeon |
| 09:31.57 | Saeris | and retrace your steps too a "town" |
| 09:32.08 | Saeris | or portal down to a floor |
| 09:32.08 | progammer_ | that's not fun, getting lost is fun |
| 09:32.44 | Arthas- | is it possible to have ONE model that looks like 2 walls, then have it to be possible to walk between the model (part between), but not through the walls |
| 09:32.58 | Arthas- | or would that require placing of path-thingies |
| 09:32.59 | progammer_ | you heard it from me first, d3 will have these kind of torchlight dungeon |
| 09:33.14 | Saeris | already figured that |
| 09:33.37 | Arthas- | <progammer_> that's not fun, getting lost is fun < Agreed |
| 09:33.38 | progammer_ | Arthas-: footprint is supposed to be very complex even up to flat wall surface |
| 09:33.43 | currydevil | yes arthas- |
| 09:33.50 | currydevil | gate models open ;) |
| 09:33.52 | progammer_ | but the footprint editor is buggy from what i've heard |
| 09:33.54 | currydevil | right there =P |
| 09:34.02 | Arthas- | currydevil didnt even think of that |
| 09:34.10 | Arthas- | ty |
| 09:34.11 | Saeris | durance of hate floors 1-3 |
| 09:34.21 | Saeris | D2 already did torchlight dungeons |
| 09:34.21 | currydevil | well, they count as units already if you use the functional ones |
| 09:34.27 | currydevil | but they serve the purpose I would imagine |
| 09:34.42 | currydevil | just export the model, and retexture/color the bottom part |
| 09:34.52 | currydevil | make it look like 2 separate walls |
| 09:34.55 | currydevil | seperate* |
| 09:34.59 | currydevil | something like that |
| 09:35.42 | Arthas- | someone who has the skills should bless us with finished walls (with attachment points for torches etc) |
| 09:35.58 | Arthas- | so you can customize a few blocks (units) and use them when generating a dungeon |
| 09:36.05 | Arthas- | unless Helral|Work already have this |
| 09:36.09 | Arthas- | stares at the cat |
| 09:36.15 | progammer_ | shape cube is my wall |
| 09:36.20 | Helral|Work | curls up and goes to sleep |
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| 09:37.00 | Arthas- | progammer_ ya, that works for now :p |
| 09:37.00 | progammer_ | cats sleep all the time doesnt it ? |
| 09:37.10 | Arthas- | not entirly true! |
| 09:37.20 | Arthas- | it looks like they are sleeping, but they are just concentrating on ways to kill you |
| 09:37.28 | *** part/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@ip68-6-101-243.sb.sd.cox.net) |
| 09:37.49 | Helral|Work | thought of a new way to make Arthas- disconnect |
| 09:37.55 | Helral|Work | meows innocently |
| 09:38.12 | Arthas- | wtf is it called when you generate dungeons on the fly |
| 09:38.26 | Helral|Work | dungeon generation ;p |
| 09:38.30 | Arthas- | noes |
| 09:38.49 | Helral|Work | why not? |
| 09:38.50 | progammer_ | Helral|Work: we are the dungeon generation |
| 09:39.09 | Helral|Work | that's the other dungeon generation |
| 09:39.20 | Arthas- | procedural content generation |
| 09:39.24 | Arthas- | http://pcg.wikidot.com/ |
| 09:39.29 | Arthas- | lol an entire wiki on the subject :p |
| 09:39.36 | Helral|Work | well ofcourse :) |
| 09:39.55 | Helral|Work | try looking of oocg ;p wonder if it exists. |
| 09:40.52 | Saeris | PCG dungeons are fine and all |
| 09:41.00 | Saeris | but if it's infinite |
| 09:41.10 | Saeris | it needs to get infinitely harder as well |
| 09:41.10 | progammer_ | i prefer "on the fly" |
| 09:41.14 | progammer_ | stupid term.. |
| 09:41.19 | Helral|Work | my dungeon is infinite. |
| 09:41.27 | Helral|Work | and the mobs get stronger as the players get more levels. |
| 09:41.43 | Arthas- | ofc it is helral, how else wouls you hide all the bodies and network cables |
| 09:42.03 | Helral|Work | my dungeon basicly ends when sc2 crashes due to incorrect catalog calls ;p |
| 09:43.14 | Saeris | time for some food then finishing up my reproduction of Helios ONE |
| 09:43.30 | Helral|Work | all I need is someone who made a mod with a whole lot of units/items for use ;p |
| 09:44.06 | Helral|Work | and buffbehaviors. |
| 09:44.22 | progammer_ | anyway for those kid who still whine at non existent thing http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/14973-battlenet-press-only-interview/ |
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| 09:45.21 | Arthas- | I still love your avatar progammer_ :p |
| 09:45.34 | Helral|Work | btw progammer_, what are you? |
| 09:45.40 | progammer_ | and why is the word still |
| 09:45.47 | Helral|Work | a bad cross between a programmer and a progamer? |
| 09:46.06 | progammer_ | i'm a mistake probably :( |
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| 09:46.40 | Thorsell | Good morning |
| 09:46.45 | Thorsell | Vietnam |
| 09:46.46 | Arthas- | thorsell, wb |
| 09:46.51 | Arthas- | jävla svikare |
| 09:46.52 | Thorsell | Or should I say Korprulu |
| 09:46.55 | Helral|Work | uses his cat powers (a.k.a. get to work my enslaved humans) to build a progammer_ correctional facility. |
| 09:46.56 | Thorsell | Vaaaaad |
| 09:47.02 | Thorsell | Jag är här iaf |
| 09:47.02 | Arthas- | You disappeared for like |
| 09:47.04 | Arthas- | 2 months |
| 09:47.13 | Thorsell | I know... been sick for about 3 |
| 09:47.14 | progammer_ | thor for sell ? are those like baneling and corrupter plushies |
| 09:47.16 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 09:47.17 | Arthas- | Are you still doing modelling stuff? |
| 09:47.34 | Arthas- | and even more importantly |
| 09:47.35 | Arthas- | music |
| 09:47.50 | Thorsell | I'm not modelling anything, but music is my business |
| 09:48.02 | Arthas- | was it zefar who did modelling? =O |
| 09:48.03 | Thorsell | and programmer, I'm not for sale... unless... |
| 09:48.11 | progammer_ | i hate to not be an artistic person |
| 09:48.13 | Thorsell | Hmm might hade been |
| 09:48.25 | Thorsell | So what do you do programmer? |
| 09:48.29 | Thorsell | Are you perhaps.. |
| 09:48.32 | Arthas- | progammer_, that's why guns were originally invented! |
| 09:48.32 | Thorsell | a programmer? |
| 09:48.40 | progammer_ | so first of all you got the name wrong |
| 09:48.42 | Helral|Work | Thorsell: he's a mistake. |
| 09:48.44 | Arthas- | We can aim them at the artistic ppl and have them generate content |
| 09:48.46 | Thorsell | oooh |
| 09:48.52 | Helral|Work | [10:46] <progammer_> i'm a mistake probably :( <--- |
| 09:48.53 | Thorsell | proGAMMER |
| 09:49.07 | Arthas- | Im starting to think progammer_ picked that nick so he could pick on those who reads it as programmer |
| 09:49.13 | Arthas- | What a douche :D |
| 09:49.14 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 09:49.27 | Thorsell | Nice plan though |
| 09:49.32 | Thorsell | obviously works |
| 09:49.33 | Arthas- | Excellent one imo! |
| 09:49.40 | progammer_ | pick on illiterate kid specifically |
| 09:49.44 | Thorsell | FELL RIGHT INTO THE TRAP |
| 09:49.51 | Arthas- | Tarp tarp |
| 09:49.53 | Thorsell | TARP* |
| 09:50.01 | Arthas- | Thorsell you still around on 8th / pcg boards? |
| 09:50.08 | Thorsell | Indeed |
| 09:50.12 | Thorsell | only 8th |
| 09:50.15 | Helral|Work | hmmmm wonder what people will think if they saw someone named prosel'dier |
| 09:50.21 | Helral|Work | hmmmm wonder what people will think if they saw someone named prosol'dier* |
| 09:50.29 | Thorsell | :P |
| 09:50.31 | Helral|Work | roflol made a typo in the name ;p |
| 09:50.36 | Thorsell | GJ |
| 09:50.45 | Arthas- | ~seen Dustin |
| 09:50.49 | purl | dustin is currently on #sc2mapster (7h 59m 10s). Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 6h 40m 4s, last said: 'hmmm'. |
| 09:50.59 | Thorsell | Hahaha |
| 09:51.10 | Helral|Work | ~Arthas- |
| 09:51.12 | Thorsell | Yeah was talking to him yesterday |
| 09:51.25 | Thorsell | I'm gonna go and eat something now |
| 09:51.27 | Arthas- | Helral|Work bot doesnt know me that well :p |
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| 09:51.33 | Thorsell | before I feel sick from my antibiotics =( |
| 09:51.33 | Helral|Work | seems so |
| 09:51.36 | Helral|Work | ~Arthas |
| 09:51.47 | Arthas- | ~Helral |
| 09:51.47 | purl | methinks helral is an evil random kitten |
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| 09:51.51 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 09:51.54 | Arthas- | ~helral is a kind kittun |
| 09:51.54 | purl | ...but helral is already something else... |
| 09:51.59 | Helral|Work | hahaha |
| 09:51.59 | progammer | ~forget Arthas- |
| 09:51.59 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'arthas- ' to forget, progammer |
| 09:52.11 | progammer | ~forget Helral|Work |
| 09:52.11 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'helral|work ' to forget, progammer |
| 09:52.15 | Saeris | i needa go to gnomon and then go make a bunch of models and shit for mods =P |
| 09:52.17 | Arthas- | ~forget Helral |
| 09:52.17 | purl | Arthas-: i forgot helral |
| 09:52.20 | Arthas- | :D |
| 09:52.22 | Helral|Work | ~helral is an evil random kitten |
| 09:52.22 | purl | Helral|Work: okay |
| 09:52.22 | Arthas- | ~helral |
| 09:52.22 | purl | rumour has it, helral is an evil random kitten |
| 09:52.23 | progammer | ok .. |
| 09:52.27 | Helral|Work | XD |
| 09:52.38 | Arthas- | it still remembers though |
| 09:52.43 | Arthas- | you must've scared purl for life |
| 09:52.44 | Helral|Work | roflol |
| 09:52.48 | Thorsell | hahaha |
| 09:52.54 | Thorsell | this is hilarious |
| 09:52.59 | Helral|Work | I've scarred purl for life ;p |
| 09:53.01 | Arthas- | ~8ball Did he use his killer claws? |
| 09:53.01 | purl | Unsure. |
| 09:53.21 | Helral|Work | no I didn't use killer claws. ;p |
| 09:53.25 | Helral|Work | else purl would be dead. |
| 09:53.31 | Arthas- | I take it purl had too much blood in the eyes to see anything! |
| 09:53.42 | Arthas- | true that |
| 09:54.00 | Helral|Work | ~8ball did you see what I did? |
| 09:54.00 | purl | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 09:54.04 | Helral|Work | roflol |
| 09:54.27 | Arthas- | A response with sarcasm mixed with a little hatred |
| 09:54.33 | Helral|Work | btw so far purl has always agreed to the fact that I'm a kitten :) |
| 09:54.36 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 09:54.44 | onetwo | hi |
| 09:54.52 | Helral|Work | hey twoone |
| 09:54.57 | Helral|Work | uhm I mean onetwo* |
| 09:55.00 | onetwo | dam Sixen is afk!! |
| 09:55.00 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:55.09 | Saeris | always afk |
| 09:55.16 | Helral|Work | want a trout to slap him with? |
| 09:55.17 | Arthas- | I'd say always lurking |
| 09:55.24 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 09:55.38 | Arthas- | onetwo, dont answer helrals question, its a trap |
| 09:55.44 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 09:55.47 | Arthas- | Using trouts for slapping as lure |
| 09:55.52 | Helral|Work | you want one then Arthas? |
| 09:55.54 | onetwo | im the gingerbread man |
| 09:56.05 | Arthas- | I'd place Helral|Work on a neutral evil scale |
| 09:56.07 | Helral|Work | looks at onetwo with hungry eyes. |
| 09:56.10 | Arthas- | no way |
| 09:56.14 | Arthas- | Ima go get burger |
| 09:56.21 | Helral|Work | you want a fishburger? |
| 09:56.26 | onetwo | * Helral|Work looks at justin bieber with hungry eyes. |
| 09:56.28 | Arthas- | no, I want real meat :p |
| 09:56.37 | Helral|Work | a cowburger? |
| 09:56.40 | Arthas- | Yes! |
| 09:56.43 | Thorsell | back again |
| 09:56.47 | Thorsell | breakfast time |
| 09:56.48 | Helral|Work | slaps Arthas- with a cow. |
| 09:56.52 | Arthas- | >_< |
| 09:56.53 | Helral|Work | there you go. |
| 09:56.55 | Thorsell | cornflakes and some kind of hard bread |
| 09:57.03 | Arthas- | hårdbröd? |
| 09:57.10 | Arthas- | knäckebröd? |
| 09:57.24 | Arthas- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisp_bread < that? |
| 09:57.29 | Thorsell | some kind of hard bread |
| 09:57.34 | Thorsell | more like that yeah |
| 09:57.45 | Arthas- | nom nom nom |
| 09:57.53 | Thorsell | or NO |
| 09:57.55 | Thorsell | not at all |
| 09:57.57 | Thorsell | btw |
| 09:57.58 | Arthas- | now you need http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leverpostej |
| 09:58.02 | Thorsell | :P |
| 09:58.05 | Thorsell | POSTEJ? |
| 09:58.11 | Arthas- | its english, ok |
| 09:58.21 | Arthas- | they dont know how to englify their words they steal |
| 09:58.28 | Arthas- | smörgåsbord -> smorgasbord |
| 09:58.29 | Arthas- | >_< |
| 09:58.40 | Thorsell | best example |
| 09:58.52 | Thorsell | and good morning onetwho btw |
| 09:58.56 | Arthas- | Although its even worse for us |
| 09:59.07 | Arthas- | E-mail -> E-mejl |
| 09:59.11 | Arthas- | shrugs |
| 09:59.13 | Thorsell | Yes, can we just skip this |
| 09:59.19 | Thorsell | conversation |
| 09:59.21 | Helral|Work | eyy Arthas- shouldn't you be transforming that cow into a cowburger? |
| 09:59.42 | Thorsell | I would probably need that |
| 09:59.47 | Thorsell | ONE hamburger lol |
| 09:59.50 | Thorsell | huge one |
| 09:59.52 | Arthas- | Me? Hell no, I have chinese children who do that for me |
| 10:00.17 | Helral|Work | doesn't agree with child labour. |
| 10:00.19 | Arthas- | They get paid 2.3 usd / month (divided between the 6 of them) |
| 10:00.31 | Helral|Work | asks his human slaves how the correctional facility is progressing. |
| 10:00.47 | Arthas- | Child labour is cheap and effective, just what we need. |
| 10:00.59 | Arthas- | THEY NEED DISCIPLINE! |
| 10:01.13 | Arthas- | oh right, have to catch the bus. later guys :) |
| 10:01.17 | Thorsell | Easy to mold into whatever you want |
| 10:01.22 | Thorsell | lol |
| 10:01.25 | Thorsell | bye dude |
| 10:01.28 | Thorsell | ttyl |
| 10:01.38 | onetwo | morning!? |
| 10:01.40 | onetwo | 2am here |
| 10:01.40 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:01.47 | Thorsell | ok |
| 10:01.49 | Thorsell | hmm |
| 10:01.49 | Helral|Work | 11:01 here ;p |
| 10:01.58 | Thorsell | maybe 3 am counts as morning |
| 10:02.06 | Thorsell | I'll say it again in an hour |
| 10:02.12 | onetwo | kk |
| 10:02.16 | currydevil | where at is this 2am onetwo? |
| 10:02.29 | onetwo | west coast NA |
| 10:02.41 | Thorsell | You should be able to coult that out for yourself |
| 10:02.42 | currydevil | must has moar specificz |
| 10:02.48 | onetwo | vancouver canada |
| 10:02.51 | currydevil | oh ok |
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| 10:02.56 | currydevil | <- oregon |
| 10:02.57 | progammer | after 12 am counts as morning to me |
| 10:03.02 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:03.06 | Thorsell | :P |
| 10:03.13 | Thorsell | progammer NO it doesnt |
| 10:03.23 | onetwo | in terms of sixen standard time (SST), it's 8pm evening |
| 10:03.30 | Thorsell | onetwo are you living in Vancouver?? |
| 10:03.35 | onetwo | yeah |
| 10:03.39 | Thorsell | No wonder you're kind of awesome then |
| 10:03.44 | currydevil | lool |
| 10:03.50 | currydevil | only kind of mind you |
| 10:03.57 | onetwo | canadian = kind of good at things |
| 10:03.59 | onetwo | never the best |
| 10:04.04 | onetwo | china and america go nuts |
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| 10:04.06 | onetwo | were just go ahead |
| 10:04.09 | onetwo | and then be nice |
| 10:04.15 | onetwo | just like* |
| 10:04.25 | Thorsell | I'm of course thinking of that writer |
| 10:04.32 | Thorsell | Douglas Coupland |
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| 10:04.51 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:04.51 | Thorsell | I'd like to visit Vancouver some day |
| 10:04.57 | onetwo | summer only imo |
| 10:04.59 | progammer | wait when did sixen get in anyway ? |
| 10:05.09 | progammer | dont even seen him in the channel 1 hour ago |
| 10:05.19 | onetwo | brb playing cs |
| 10:05.28 | Dekar | ~8ball is helral really a cat? |
| 10:05.28 | purl | Unsure. |
| 10:05.31 | Thorsell | k |
| 10:05.36 | Thorsell | heheh |
| 10:08.50 | Thorsell | so.. |
| 10:08.57 | Thorsell | everybody is just leaving |
| 10:09.38 | Thorsell | oooh the ICO soundtrack |
| 10:09.42 | Thorsell | so beautiful |
| 10:10.19 | progammer | Thorsell: you have purl, or cleverbot if you would like |
| 10:10.33 | progammer | both are better then me |
| 10:12.09 | Thorsell | lol |
| 10:12.19 | Thorsell | You must be good at something |
| 10:12.42 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:13.06 | Helral|Work | ~8ball am I an evil kitten? |
| 10:13.06 | purl | Absolutely. |
| 10:13.08 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 10:13.18 | Thorsell | :P |
| 10:14.02 | Helral|Work | the 8ball doesn't know if I'm male or female ;p so that's why it's unsure if I'm a cat ;p |
| 10:15.26 | Dekar | ~8ball do you always lie when answering helrals questions? |
| 10:15.26 | purl | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 10:15.39 | Dekar | :D |
| 10:15.44 | Helral|Work | purl the sarcast :) |
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| 10:17.09 | Helral|Work | btw Dekar, you can keep asking 8ball if it just lied ;p |
| 10:17.42 | Helral|Work | ~8ball do you say what people want to hear? |
| 10:17.43 | purl | Negative. |
| 10:17.55 | Helral|Work | ~8ball did I want to hear Negative as a response? |
| 10:17.55 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 10:18.04 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 10:18.37 | Dekar | ~8ball what is the purpose of life? |
| 10:18.37 | purl | Please ask again. |
| 10:18.42 | Helral|Work | hahaha |
| 10:18.59 | Dekar | OK FINE |
| 10:19.03 | Dekar | DONT TELL ME! |
| 10:19.16 | Helral|Work | check your whispers |
| 10:19.32 | Helral|Work | or pms or however you name it ;p |
| 10:19.54 | Helral|Work | purl prolly told you someone else asked that x seconds ago ;p |
| 10:20.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster Pierrot (Pierrot@ARennes-256-1-88-47.w90-32.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:20.42 | Pierrot | Hi all ! |
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| 10:20.54 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:20.57 | Thorsell | hello Pierrot |
| 10:21.10 | Pierrot | Any idea on how I can make a Back stab system ? (extra damage from attack from behind) |
| 10:21.31 | Helral|Work | just make a validator on the target units facing. |
| 10:21.43 | Helral|Work | if it is X different from the attacking units facing ;p |
| 10:21.49 | Helral|Work | then return true ;p |
| 10:21.54 | Pierrot | well well well |
| 10:22.02 | Pierrot | hmmm |
| 10:22.02 | Helral|Work | don't ask me how to do it. |
| 10:22.09 | Pierrot | I don"t |
| 10:22.12 | Helral|Work | I never did it ;p |
| 10:22.18 | Pierrot | I understand the first statement |
| 10:22.35 | Pierrot | the second is ... meow ? |
| 10:22.41 | Helral|Work | has no idea if it is possible with a validator. |
| 10:22.57 | Thorsell | condition? |
| 10:23.05 | Thorsell | there must be a way to do this :P |
| 10:23.26 | Dekar | pierrot |
| 10:23.35 | Helral|Work | basicly it's like: if (atk.facing - def.facing <10 and atk.facing-def.faacing>-10) then do backstab dmg. |
| 10:24.19 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.19 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.36 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.36 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.36 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.36 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.54 | Dekar | i think that works |
| 10:25.05 | Pierrot | hmm zounds sexy |
| 10:25.09 | Pierrot | ill try zat |
| 10:25.18 | Pierrot | thx |
| 10:25.21 | Dekar | np |
| 10:25.25 | Thorsell | Makes sense Dekar |
| 10:25.26 | Pierrot | I use tmp variable |
| 10:25.30 | Pierrot | or global |
| 10:25.36 | Helral|Work | I'd sooner say: Facing of Target - Facing of Attacker <10 and >-10 |
| 10:25.51 | Helral|Work | they both face about the same way. then allow backstab ;p |
| 10:26.12 | Dekar | temp variable |
| 10:26.14 | Helral|Work | unless you have units that can fire backwards ;p |
| 10:26.23 | Dekar | well, he has splash stuff |
| 10:26.25 | Dekar | :p |
| 10:26.33 | Dekar | and moving projectiles |
| 10:26.53 | Helral|Work | how the hell can you deal backstab dmg with splash/projectiles? |
| 10:26.56 | Dekar | on the other side |
| 10:26.57 | Dekar | yeah |
| 10:27.00 | Dekar | backstab the skill |
| 10:27.06 | Helral|Work | you need to be very precise with projectiles to do it. |
| 10:27.12 | Dekar | the only skill to use the system |
| 10:27.27 | Dekar | and it will probably be melee/instant |
| 10:27.37 | Dekar | so facing alone should work |
| 10:27.41 | Helral|Work | just using melee is what I'd say. if using projectiles then use something like sniper rounds orso |
| 10:28.13 | Thorsell | More damage when shot in the back? :P |
| 10:28.19 | Thorsell | With a sniper rifle? |
| 10:28.25 | Helral|Work | more dmg when shot in a critical spot. |
| 10:28.29 | Helral|Work | doesn't need to be in the back. |
| 10:28.34 | Thorsell | ah |
| 10:28.42 | Thorsell | lol |
| 10:28.58 | Thorsell | shuffling music in an online flash based music list |
| 10:29.04 | Thorsell | a game music list |
| 10:29.19 | Thorsell | SC2 - Terran 5 just got on |
| 10:29.20 | Helral|Work | backstab is basicly getting close enough to deal more damage by for example cutting deeper into the enemy, then you can when you approach him from the front. |
| 10:29.51 | Thorsell | Yeah I understand that a real back STAB might deal more damage |
| 10:30.10 | Thorsell | but getting shot would probably damage you equally |
| 10:30.32 | Helral|Work | prolly be more dmg, but longer aiming time. |
| 10:30.42 | Thorsell | yeah |
| 10:30.58 | Thorsell | that would be a cool sniper skill |
| 10:31.00 | Helral|Work | like in you need to aim for 1-2 seconds while backstab can be done 3 times in 2 seconds orso. |
| 10:31.05 | Dekar | surprise backstab is easier to land a critical hit |
| 10:31.24 | Dekar | bullets can be evaded |
| 10:31.24 | Helral|Work | but then backstab dmg would be a third of sniping dmg ;p |
| 10:31.25 | Dekar | D: |
| 10:31.43 | Thorsell | Sniper > Use Aim > takes 2 seconds > HEADSHOT |
| 10:31.46 | Thorsell | or crit |
| 10:31.52 | Dekar | or crit on headshot |
| 10:31.55 | Thorsell | yeah |
| 10:32.15 | Helral|Work | crit for sniper = dmgx3 or x4? and for melee x2? ;p |
| 10:32.32 | Thorsell | or you have that skill with a cooldown and it ALWAYS gives you x3 damage |
| 10:32.39 | Thorsell | but you can't use it a lit |
| 10:32.44 | Thorsell | lot * |
| 10:32.45 | Dekar | in tf2 its 3x normal damage on crit and bakstab = 10x damage |
| 10:32.50 | Dekar | or was it 6x |
| 10:32.57 | Dekar | 6x current! |
| 10:33.00 | Dekar | health |
| 10:33.01 | Helral|Work | depends on how difficult they make the stuff. |
| 10:33.17 | Dekar | and deadringer reduces damage to 1/10 |
| 10:33.25 | Helral|Work | if you make backstab difficult then you can increase the dmg dealt by it. |
| 10:33.28 | Dekar | thats why you cant die from backstabs with active deadringer! |
| 10:33.50 | Helral|Work | if you make sniping easy then reduce the dmg dealt by it. |
| 10:34.02 | Thorsell | Sniping should be hard :P |
| 10:34.17 | Thorsell | like, u miss some shots and stuff :P |
| 10:34.23 | Helral|Work | sniping itself shouldn't be hard. sniping unseen should be another matter. |
| 10:34.37 | Helral|Work | like in while sniping you attack very slow. so they can move out of range etc. |
| 10:34.47 | Thorsell | yeah |
| 10:34.53 | Helral|Work | but they can also get into range and attack you if they know where you are. |
| 10:35.15 | Thorsell | is there any model in SC2 that uses a silenced sniper? |
| 10:36.03 | Thorsell | I should probably start up my GalaxyEd |
| 10:37.05 | Dekar | i should probably prepare to go to uni |
| 10:37.17 | Helral|Work | ghost uses snipers ;p |
| 10:37.32 | Dekar | and snipe skill sounds silenced |
| 10:37.35 | Helral|Work | also has the ability sniper rounds. |
| 10:37.39 | Helral|Work | which costs x energy |
| 10:37.41 | Thorsell | aah that's true |
| 10:37.46 | Dekar | and cloak without silencer would be stupid |
| 10:37.53 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 10:37.57 | Thorsell | heh true |
| 10:38.08 | Thorsell | that would be cool |
| 10:38.15 | Dekar | ~8ball do ghosts use a silenced sniper rifle? |
| 10:38.15 | purl | Negative. |
| 10:38.18 | Dekar | aww |
| 10:38.24 | Thorsell | :P |
| 10:38.25 | Helral|Work | it makes a sound :) |
| 10:39.05 | Thorsell | ~8ball does the cloak make it silenced like, in a magic way? |
| 10:39.05 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 10:39.11 | Helral|Work | why would you need a silencer if the guy getting hit makes plenty of noise? |
| 10:39.27 | Thorsell | Sniper MOD? |
| 10:39.37 | Helral|Work | a gang of marines is heading towards a ghost. |
| 10:39.48 | Helral|Work | the marines are singing heeyy hooo captain jack. :P |
| 10:40.00 | Helral|Work | the sniper can shoot without the marines hearing him ;p |
| 10:40.02 | Thorsell | A sniper wouldn't attack a whole group of marines :P |
| 10:40.14 | Helral|Work | no it would take out their leader and then run. |
| 10:40.15 | Thorsell | he'd pick them off one by one |
| 10:40.23 | Thorsell | or that |
| 10:41.06 | Deaod | Dekar, the GUI code you posted before doesnt work |
| 10:41.06 | Thorsell | Would be pretty cool to make a scenario with a lone sniper |
| 10:41.39 | Helral|Work | ofcourse it doesn't because it's invalid ;p |
| 10:41.51 | Helral|Work | hehehe yup Thorsell :) |
| 10:41.53 | Deaod | invalid? |
| 10:41.58 | Deaod | in what way? |
| 10:42.04 | Helral|Work | set variable = - ... <-- that's invalid |
| 10:42.08 | Deaod | no |
| 10:42.13 | Deaod | thats perfectly valid |
| 10:42.23 | Helral|Work | really how do you do that using the gui then? |
| 10:42.35 | Deaod | Arithmetic (Multiple) |
| 10:42.52 | Helral|Work | ahhh that one exists? hmmm never looked that deep into it ;p |
| 10:43.17 | Helral|Work | but why use multiple for 2 values. |
| 10:43.22 | Deaod | no idea? |
| 10:43.34 | Deaod | thats not whats wrong with the code anyway |
| 10:44.22 | Helral|Work | hmmm well he doesn't incorperate the fact that the result can be negative or way high positive. |
| 10:44.48 | Dekar | it is |
| 10:44.48 | Deaod | it doesnt account for the fact that ATan2 returns values from 180 to -180 |
| 10:44.50 | Dekar | i use absolute |
| 10:45.14 | Helral|Work | so you say that 180 - - 180 isn't 360? |
| 10:45.18 | Deaod | wait a sec |
| 10:45.32 | Deaod | target facing is 0 to 360? |
| 10:45.33 | Dekar | no time to think or discuss |
| 10:45.33 | Dekar | :p |
| 10:45.37 | Dekar | just try it |
| 10:45.46 | Deaod | sorry then |
| 10:45.53 | Helral|Work | I'd simply check both facings and see if they face in similar direction. |
| 10:46.16 | Helral|Work | either by taking the facing of the attacker towards the attacked unit or just the facing of the attacker. |
| 10:46.47 | Helral|Work | if these 2 differ less then X then allow backstab. |
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| 10:51.24 | Helral|Work | ah well it isn't easy to specify the max angle anyway for what Dekar said ;p cause you'd need to know that it is 180-allowed angle. instead of just the sllowed angle. |
| 10:52.29 | Deaod | except that UnitGetFacing returns values from -180 to 180 |
| 10:52.39 | Deaod | so yeah, it doesnt work |
| 10:53.44 | A1win | were there any other interesting zerg units in the campaign than brutalisk and that big flying thingy |
| 10:54.08 | A1win | ah, aberration |
| 10:55.36 | Pierrot | Does not compute ... |
| 10:55.42 | Pierrot | So what should I do ? |
| 10:57.09 | Helral|Work | hmmm? |
| 10:57.54 | Helral|Work | take both unit facings and substract them from eachother, if abs(resultValue) < maxAngleYouWant then do backstab dmg. |
| 10:58.51 | Helral|Work | although this doesn't take into account if it's above 180.... |
| 10:59.14 | Pierrot | Hmmm ... meow ? |
| 10:59.50 | Pierrot | Can I set a Unicorn instead ? me not good with angular mathematic. |
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| 11:04.17 | Aussie123 | can u make destructable terrain? like in worms :p |
| 11:04.36 | Pierrot | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.17 | Helral|Work | just wondering: is there a get unit facing compared to unit's facing function? |
| 11:06.53 | Aussie123 | helral do u no if u can make destructable ground? |
| 11:07.25 | Aussie123 | and make maps like in worms |
| 11:07.42 | Helral|Work | no, maybe. |
| 11:07.53 | Helral|Work | you can modify the terrain to look like it's been hit. |
| 11:08.05 | Helral|Work | like in generate a crater on the impact of a missle |
| 11:08.26 | Deaod | angle=ATan2(<TargetY> - <SourceY>, <TargetX> - <SourceX>); |
| 11:08.26 | Deaod | facing=UnitGetFacing(<TargetUnit>); |
| 11:08.26 | Deaod | tmp=ModF(angle-facing, 360.0); // maps difference to 0-360 |
| 11:08.34 | Aussie123 | so u can shoot a missile at a mountain and put a hole through it? |
| 11:08.41 | Deaod | if(tmp>180){ |
| 11:08.41 | Deaod | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:08.41 | Deaod | } |
| 11:08.47 | Deaod | if (AbsF(tmp)>90) { |
| 11:08.47 | Deaod | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:08.47 | Deaod | } |
| 11:10.20 | Helral|Work | Aussie123: don't think that's possible, but you can should the ground into a crater. although the units still see it as normal ground and can walk upon it as such. |
| 11:10.36 | Helral|Work | they do follow the terrain's new depth though. |
| 11:11.24 | Aussie123 | bit useless then :p |
| 11:11.34 | Aussie123 | if u cant walk through it |
| 11:11.44 | Helral|Work | hmmm? |
| 11:12.38 | Helral|Work | you mean in like blow away an obstacle and then walk through that bit? |
| 11:12.43 | Helral|Work | just use a doodad for those bits. ;p |
| 11:12.56 | Aussie123 | no like in worms |
| 11:13.07 | Aussie123 | u throw a grenade and it will make a circle |
| 11:13.10 | Aussie123 | a hole |
| 11:13.19 | Aussie123 | ur worm can go in the hole |
| 11:13.21 | Helral|Work | and units can still walk through that hole on the ground. |
| 11:13.39 | Helral|Work | "although the units still see it as normal ground and can walk upon it as such." |
| 11:13.44 | Aussie123 | oh u said they can |
| 11:13.45 | Aussie123 | nvm |
| 11:13.47 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 11:13.56 | Aussie123 | i swear there was a t there before |
| 11:14.01 | Pierrot | what is abs(something) |
| 11:14.02 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 11:14.25 | Helral|Work | Pierrot: make it absolute. (remove the negative sign) |
| 11:14.40 | Helral|Work | so abs(10) == asb(-10) |
| 11:15.34 | Helral|Work | quite funny they made a math function for it ;p |
| 11:16.05 | Helral|Work | basicly it's an if statement with a modify var statement: if (var<0){var = 0-var;} |
| 11:16.35 | Pierrot | ok i made this so far SetVariable(angle1, (ArithmeticReal((PointGetFacing((UnitGetPosition((EventUnit()))))), -, (PointGetFacing((UnitGetPosition((EventUnitTargetUnit())))))))) |
| 11:17.21 | Helral|Work | just use UnitGetFacing. or is it UnitFacing.... instead of the PointGetFacing((UnitGetPosition |
| 11:17.35 | Helral|Work | anyways I'll be afk a bit. |
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| 11:18.30 | Pierrot | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.04 | Thorsell | Aussie123 I doubt that there's a built in function for that |
| 11:23.22 | Thorsell | Making Worms-type of destructible ground |
| 11:25.38 | Pierrot | i may have an idea |
| 11:25.44 | Pierrot | using DE |
| 11:25.50 | Pierrot | i ll check it later |
| 11:32.56 | Thorsell | Hm.. I'm looking for a thunder ambience |
| 11:33.18 | Thorsell | Going for a rainy Bel'Shir with some thunder cracking in the background |
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| 11:35.05 | Helral|Work | watches in horror as speakers start to explode due to the thunder ambiance ;p |
| 11:35.23 | Arthas- | Mission accomplished |
| 11:35.38 | Helral|Work | puts down the horror mask. |
| 11:35.49 | Thorsell | GJ Arthas |
| 11:35.53 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:37.36 | Thorsell | Ah, there |
| 11:37.46 | Thorsell | found the thunder ambience doodad |
| 11:37.57 | Arthas- | quickly erases Thorsell's computer like a ninja |
| 11:38.03 | Arthas- | HA, now you have to start over again! |
| 11:38.05 | Thorsell | DAMMIT |
| 11:38.21 | Helral|Work | didn't think that Arthas- acted like a ninja. |
| 11:38.29 | Arthas- | I AM NINJA |
| 11:38.32 | Thorsell | I'm making a small scenery for a cine |
| 11:38.32 | Arthas- | >:| |
| 11:38.34 | Helral|Work | saw him the entire time while he was erasing Thorsell's computer. |
| 11:38.39 | Thorsell | :P |
| 11:38.47 | Arthas- | Not my fault HDDs these days are so slow :p |
| 11:38.58 | Helral|Work | also saw him come and go. |
| 11:39.14 | Arthas- | Arent you supposed to be working >:( |
| 11:39.21 | Helral|Work | meows innocently ;p |
| 11:39.22 | Arthas- | Creepy stalker ;p |
| 11:39.45 | Helral|Work | meows innocently andblinks somewhere else. |
| 11:39.54 | Arthas- | is going to watch new SP |
| 11:40.04 | Helral|Work | wonders what's new about it. |
| 11:40.45 | Arthas- | Ill let you know when im done! |
| 11:41.20 | Helral|Work | will now take his break from work. |
| 11:41.32 | Helral|Work | is very annoyed by IE and microdork. |
| 11:43.34 | Thorsell | :P |
| 11:44.44 | Helral|Work | why would IE have so much problems with divs :S |
| 11:45.20 | Helral|Work | other browsers handle it in 10 ms orso, IE takes 2 seconds at least. :S |
| 11:45.38 | Thorsell | It's strange |
| 11:45.52 | Helral|Work | I wouldn't think IE had that much problem with div styling :S |
| 11:45.57 | Thorsell | So.... I'm trying to adjust my water's alpha level |
| 11:46.19 | Thorsell | which way on the slider makes it more see through? |
| 11:46.39 | Thorsell | smaller or larger number? |
| 11:47.04 | Thorsell | OH |
| 11:47.21 | Thorsell | the reflectivity power was too high |
| 12:04.18 | Arthas- | Helral|Work its that much slower? |
| 12:05.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442d304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.48.77) |
| 12:07.12 | Helral|Work | yeah |
| 12:07.18 | Thorsell | Hello there Bounty |
| 12:07.24 | Bounty | Howdy |
| 12:07.34 | Bounty | emulation is a beautiful thing |
| 12:07.37 | Thorsell | I've got tons of annoying questions |
| 12:07.40 | Bounty | im able to play Disgaea on the ps2 |
| 12:07.50 | Helral|Work | that's basicly the problem I have at work atm. that something that takes 10 ms in other browsers to display takes 2 seconds in IE8..... |
| 12:07.52 | Bounty | and surf teh webs |
| 12:08.13 | Arthas- | that sucks |
| 12:08.14 | Thorsell | Helral get IE9? |
| 12:08.29 | Helral|Work | the website we have needs to support all generally used browsers. |
| 12:08.33 | Arthas- | its prolly a req that it shuold work in ie8 |
| 12:08.43 | Arthas- | within companies IE6 is not ununsual either |
| 12:08.49 | Helral|Work | so IE6, 7, 8 FF3.5+ Chrome |
| 12:08.58 | Arthas- | safari? |
| 12:09.00 | Helral|Work | and some more. |
| 12:09.01 | Helral|Work | yup |
| 12:09.07 | Arthas- | netscape? |
| 12:09.12 | Deaod | if you support chrome, you support safari |
| 12:09.19 | Deaod | netscape is irrelevant |
| 12:09.20 | Helral|Work | if we get a client that uses netscape then yes. |
| 12:09.26 | Arthas- | Deaod WAT |
| 12:09.32 | Arthas- | NETSCAPE IS GOD YOU INFIDEL |
| 12:09.41 | Deaod | netscape died. |
| 12:09.43 | Deaod | long ago. |
| 12:09.48 | Arthas- | the engine still lives |
| 12:09.57 | Helral|Work | basicly the browsers that are used by our clients are atm: IE6+ and FireFox 3.5+ |
| 12:10.26 | Helral|Work | IE6 support is also quite annoying. |
| 12:10.53 | Helral|Work | because it isn't complient to the w3c. |
| 12:12.04 | Thorsell | haha great |
| 12:13.18 | Thorsell | in other news, I've got a nice scene going in the editor |
| 12:20.20 | Helral|Work | what would you expect the difference to be on server time if you make a call to a CGI-script between 2 different browsers? |
| 12:20.48 | Arthas- | about the same? |
| 12:20.57 | Arthas- | would be my wild guess :p |
| 12:21.29 | Helral|Work | with IE8: 1.77s. with FF3.6: 0.27s. |
| 12:21.42 | Helral|Work | funny isn't it. |
| 12:21.52 | Arthas- | Not really :p |
| 12:21.59 | Arthas- | I cry a little inside |
| 12:22.00 | Deaod | did you try multiple times? |
| 12:22.03 | Helral|Work | yeah |
| 12:22.15 | Helral|Work | Deaod: this is consequent like this. |
| 12:22.32 | Helral|Work | if I remove the stylesheets the time suddenly becomes correct for IE8. |
| 12:22.38 | Helral|Work | but the page looks like crap. |
| 12:23.12 | Arthas- | Thorsell http://www.aftonbladet.se/webbtv/noje/idol/article8140942.ab?start=110 |
| 12:23.14 | Arthas- | lolololol |
| 12:23.19 | Deaod | lets face it: IE sucks. |
| 12:23.31 | Helral|Work | but people use it so we must support it. |
| 12:23.36 | Helral|Work | :S |
| 12:24.21 | Arthas- | 15 year imprisonment :D |
| 12:24.27 | Arthas- | This chick is retarded |
| 12:24.38 | Arthas- | Rape wouldnt give you anything close to 15 y :p |
| 12:24.42 | Arthas- | nor would murder :D |
| 12:25.01 | Deaod | you could just make it work almost like the FF version and just slap a sticker somewhere that says "Works best with FireFox" |
| 12:25.16 | Arthas- | Deaod haha, that reminds me of the old geocities pages |
| 12:25.29 | Arthas- | Optimized for Internet Explorer 4 with 640x480 or higher resolution |
| 12:25.35 | Arthas- | ^^ |
| 12:25.57 | Arthas- | the fact is, many dont even know firefox exists |
| 12:25.58 | Arthas- | MANY |
| 12:26.01 | Helral|Work | it does work best with FF atm. |
| 12:26.21 | Helral|Work | but companies and goverment institutes won't change to another browser because of other stuff. |
| 12:26.21 | Thorsell | Arthas |
| 12:26.25 | Arthas- | Thorsell |
| 12:26.29 | Deaod | someone should slap some sense into those many |
| 12:26.33 | Helral|Work | like in afraid that old systems will stop working. |
| 12:26.36 | Arthas- | Deaod I tri |
| 12:26.38 | Arthas- | try |
| 12:26.38 | Thorsell | who are those guys and why do I have to look at Aftonbladet TV? |
| 12:26.54 | Helral|Work | bleh finally got IE8 to work fast again. |
| 12:26.59 | Arthas- | some random idol chick (dont know who since i dont watch tv) who whines :D |
| 12:27.00 | Thorsell | I'm COMPLETELY uninterested in Swedish Idol |
| 12:27.03 | Helral|Work | by using inline styling for most elements :S |
| 12:27.24 | Thorsell | Yeah that was great fun........... |
| 12:27.42 | Arthas- | You need to analyze the media more :p |
| 12:27.55 | Deaod | say, what should i be seeing when i click on that link? |
| 12:27.57 | Thorsell | I went to school studying media |
| 12:27.57 | Arthas- | "news"* |
| 12:28.10 | Deaod | text? |
| 12:28.12 | Arthas- | gymnasiet? =p |
| 12:28.16 | Deaod | or video? |
| 12:28.23 | Thorsell | a boring vid from a news site |
| 12:28.32 | Arthas- | Deaod that is a video from swedens largest paper |
| 12:28.36 | Arthas- | a pathetic one at that |
| 12:28.38 | Thorsell | ?!?! |
| 12:28.43 | Thorsell | LARGEST |
| 12:28.45 | Arthas- | ay |
| 12:28.46 | Thorsell | My ass |
| 12:28.49 | Arthas- | aftonhoran / expressen |
| 12:28.58 | Thorsell | Owner-wise maybe |
| 12:29.08 | Thorsell | but not popularity-wise???? |
| 12:29.11 | Thorsell | I HOPE NOT |
| 12:29.17 | Arthas- | I actually think it is popularity wise aswell |
| 12:29.24 | Thorsell | damn no wonder people are so stupid |
| 12:29.33 | Arthas- | thats my point |
| 12:29.34 | Arthas- | :p |
| 12:29.38 | Helral|Work | hmmm I had a style that did: list-style-type: none;list-style-image: none; |
| 12:29.46 | Helral|Work | and IE8 couldn't do it fast.... |
| 12:29.49 | Arthas- | I often find local papers more well written |
| 12:29.55 | Arthas- | by they are starting to lose it aswell |
| 12:29.58 | Thorsell | Helral that's just SAD |
| 12:30.12 | Thorsell | Arthas here it's the opposite |
| 12:30.13 | Helral|Work | now I've got that inline instead of in css. and it does handle it fast. |
| 12:30.22 | Arthas- | whats the paper thorsell |
| 12:30.43 | Arthas- | If I find ONE headline like "4(S)uperpartiet" |
| 12:30.59 | Arthas- | I will decide that the paper is worthless :p |
| 12:31.05 | Thorsell | i don't think it has a webpage....... |
| 12:31.11 | Arthas- | Thats good! |
| 12:31.22 | Arthas- | Then perhaps they aint that infected :D |
| 12:31.59 | Helral|Work | claims permission to rant on about IE's screwed up workings. |
| 12:32.02 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 12:32.48 | Arthas- | 9Permission granted |
| 12:32.55 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 12:32.56 | Arthas- | Ouch, hardly readable :< |
| 12:33.03 | Helral|Work | me eyes they're hurting |
| 12:33.06 | Helral|Work | so bright. |
| 12:33.07 | Arthas- | the green is killing my eyes! |
| 12:33.13 | Helral|Work | must type much so the green goes away |
| 12:33.15 | Arthas- | 0,9 |
| 12:33.19 | Arthas- | Hmm |
| 12:33.23 | Helral|Work | begone you foul green text |
| 12:33.30 | Thorsell | where do I change the lighting setting for my map? |
| 12:33.32 | Helral|Work | I exorcise you from the screen. |
| 12:33.33 | Arthas- | 6I am purple now! |
| 12:33.41 | Helral|Work | Thorsell: light at the data editor. |
| 12:33.43 | Arthas- | thorsell lightning |
| 12:34.13 | Helral|Work | uses cat-voodoo to expell the green text from his screen |
| 12:34.20 | Arthas- | /clear ? |
| 12:34.33 | A1win | hmm... by disabling the campaign AI, some unit AI actually became smarter :P they don't stop hitting a wounded unit if that unit stops hitting them... I guess that's how it's on brutal |
| 12:34.35 | Helral|Work | shrunk the viewport. |
| 12:34.39 | Arthas- | almost sounds like /claw, so I guess it might be cat-voodoo |
| 12:34.58 | Helral|Work | now I only see 10 lines of text instead of 40 |
| 12:35.08 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 12:35.13 | Arthas- | That sucks, want me to put some green on it? |
| 12:35.18 | Helral|Work | noooooo |
| 12:35.21 | Arthas- | Kk! |
| 12:35.23 | Helral|Work | mutes Arthas- |
| 12:35.28 | Arthas- | :( |
| 12:35.31 | Helral|Work | wants to be safe from the green goo |
| 12:35.53 | HP-X|Arthas | dun dun dun duuuun |
| 12:35.54 | Helral|Work | doesn't think muting works when people aren't speaking.... |
| 12:36.30 | Helral|Work | yes I've muted arthas so I can't hear him speak.... (although I can still read what he types :S) |
| 12:36.56 | Arthas- | So when I type green you hust read it as green? |
| 12:37.02 | Helral|Work | aaargh |
| 12:37.03 | Arthas- | You don't hear it in green |
| 12:37.05 | Helral|Work | he's typing green again |
| 12:37.06 | Arthas- | or? |
| 12:37.18 | Arthas- | boobs |
| 12:37.23 | Helral|Work | O.O |
| 12:37.30 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 12:37.31 | Arthas- | now highlighted 37% of the people in the channel |
| 12:37.37 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 12:38.06 | Helral|Work | curls up on the lap of the one with the female boobs. |
| 12:38.08 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 12:38.26 | Arthas- | Those are moobs, not boobs |
| 12:38.32 | Helral|Work | what are moobs? |
| 12:38.38 | Arthas- | Let me show you! |
| 12:38.40 | Thorsell | (.)(.) |
| 12:38.52 | Helral|Work | those are hangers.... |
| 12:39.03 | Thorsell | moobs = man-boobs |
| 12:39.03 | Arthas- | http://www.google.se/images?q=moobs&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=sv&tab=wi |
| 12:39.07 | Thorsell | hahaha |
| 12:39.15 | Thorsell | Busted your joke. |
| 12:39.15 | Arthas- | the horror |
| 12:39.32 | Arthas- | you know böglyft? |
| 12:42.09 | Thorsell | :P |
| 12:42.18 | Thorsell | PLEASE DON't |
| 12:42.27 | Arthas- | Already been discussed in this channel |
| 12:42.39 | Arthas- | In the english language, bögjävlar and böglyft are something positive |
| 12:42.46 | Arthas- | Ask rrowland when he appears |
| 12:43.49 | Helral|Work | damnit. I didn't notice I was testing with FF.... no wonder it was so fast ;p |
| 12:44.05 | Arthas- | Back to square one! |
| 12:44.08 | Helral|Work | yup :S |
| 12:44.14 | Thorsell | Hahah aaaw |
| 12:44.33 | Helral|Work | I used FF for the comparing. only forgot to switch back to IE.... |
| 12:47.29 | Thorsell | dammit, can't find the lighting setting window... I know I had it here somewere before |
| 12:47.49 | Thorsell | i'm in Data > Lights |
| 12:48.20 | Arthas- | Window -> Lightning ? |
| 12:49.07 | Thorsell | ... |
| 12:49.37 | Arthas- | .. is great feedback! |
| 12:50.09 | Helral|Work | isn't editing any light setting the same as the window -> Lightning screen? (didn't even know window -> Lightning existed) |
| 12:50.54 | Arthas- | no idea |
| 12:51.03 | Arthas- | i find the latter easier though |
| 12:53.42 | Thorsell | :P |
| 12:54.01 | Thorsell | I'm trying to make a dark jungle |
| 12:54.51 | Thorsell | and the lightning/flashes should light it up and it should pop out, like real high specular so it seems the jungle is all moist and rainy |
| 12:57.03 | Thorsell | Arthas, can you give me some advice on that? |
| 12:57.25 | Thorsell | I guess you've made a dark map some time right? |
| 12:57.25 | Arthas- | nope |
| 12:57.30 | Arthas- | never played with that |
| 13:01.25 | Arthas- | hahaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V5qJCEaTdr8 |
| 13:01.26 | Arthas- | WIN! |
| 13:01.38 | Arthas- | Fuck the xmas houses, first one with wizards of winter was ok, but this! |
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| 13:07.33 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16USvlqgmNE |
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| 13:15.57 | MKmisfit | well i finally maged to fix both the missile launch location and the beam moving problem in SC Rally |
| 13:16.59 | MKmisfit | it looks like a beam wont move along with the caster, only the target... so i swapped the target and caster... its a stun gun so the target doesnt move anyway |
| 13:18.42 | Bounty | Early Morning Feedback Request time guys :) |
| 13:18.44 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Vv0sEO1sc |
| 13:18.50 | Arthas- | http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/49156 |
| 13:18.52 | Arthas- | I COUNTER WITH THAT |
| 13:18.59 | Arthas- | Doesnt matter what you pasted, mine IS better |
| 13:19.20 | Arthas- | oh right, win the crowd :D |
| 13:19.25 | Bounty | :) |
| 13:19.26 | Arthas- | Sooooo |
| 13:19.26 | Bounty | New Video |
| 13:19.29 | Arthas- | Any jumping yet? |
| 13:19.34 | Bounty | Better |
| 13:19.36 | Bounty | watch it :) |
| 13:19.37 | Arthas- | JETPACK |
| 13:19.37 | Helral|Work | marks Bounties post as failure, so that he can mark Arthas-'s post as a better failure. |
| 13:19.48 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 13:20.05 | Bounty | Give meh feedback |
| 13:20.12 | Arthas- | Ya, jump is missing |
| 13:20.17 | Arthas- | Lots of awesome combos |
| 13:20.21 | Helral|Work | thinks "feedback denied" let others handle it ;p |
| 13:20.36 | Arthas- | :p |
| 13:20.53 | Bounty | ive decided to shift the game so a more |
| 13:21.00 | Arthas- | Shii's song, even you should appreciate that one Helral|Work |
| 13:21.01 | Bounty | "Disgaea" combat |
| 13:21.10 | Bounty | Hence the combo counter |
| 13:21.16 | Arthas- | It's old and you've seen it for sure, but it is a classic |
| 13:21.28 | Arthas- | there she is aswell but :p |
| 13:21.32 | Helral|Work | Arthas-: who? |
| 13:21.35 | Bounty | And if you get the combo counter to some insanely high number, it goes to a cutscene |
| 13:21.40 | Arthas- | "There she is" a video |
| 13:21.40 | Bounty | of ownage |
| 13:21.45 | Arthas- | http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/161181 |
| 13:21.53 | Helral|Work | Shii <-- who? |
| 13:22.02 | Arthas- | <Arthas-> http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/49156 |
| 13:22.03 | Arthas- | there |
| 13:22.05 | Arthas- | Shii |
| 13:22.14 | Helral|Work | sry ain't checking sites when at work ;p |
| 13:22.47 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGDCE6Nrz0 |
| 13:22.53 | Arthas- | also, that is a winning concept for a map |
| 13:24.29 | Bounty | So |
| 13:24.33 | Bounty | wheres mah feedback |
| 13:24.51 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8LdRJqjjRM ? =) |
| 13:25.04 | Arthas- | I liked the effects |
| 13:25.05 | Bounty | rofl |
| 13:25.06 | Bounty | good one |
| 13:25.10 | Bounty | i assume |
| 13:25.15 | Arthas- | but I were unable to get a grasp of what happened |
| 13:25.17 | Bounty | u posted that |
| 13:25.20 | Bounty | bc its called "jump" |
| 13:25.25 | Arthas- | Yes |
| 13:25.34 | Bounty | Well what didnt u understand? |
| 13:25.38 | Bounty | i outlined everything in the text |
| 13:25.39 | Arthas- | It is also the song to play on the boombox if you seee a jumper |
| 13:25.41 | Bounty | that pops up |
| 13:25.47 | Arthas- | I didnt read the texts |
| 13:25.50 | Arthas- | :p |
| 13:25.54 | Bounty | read them |
| 13:25.56 | Bounty | its like 3 words |
| 13:25.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 13:26.32 | Arthas- | BUFFERING |
| 13:29.05 | Bounty | also keep in mind i still have 2 classes to do |
| 13:29.06 | Bounty | :) |
| 13:29.14 | Arthas- | is he flying in the end :P |
| 13:29.15 | Arthas- | the dt |
| 13:29.21 | Bounty | prolly |
| 13:29.27 | Bounty | those Acolytes can levitate u |
| 13:29.27 | Dekar | weekend \o/ |
| 13:29.33 | Arthas- | ah |
| 13:30.00 | Bounty | adding that team combo counter added alot more fun to the game :) |
| 13:30.14 | Bounty | considering u will be fighting vs alot more then 2 enemies later on |
| 13:30.23 | Bounty | i predict combo chains up to 500+ |
| 13:31.25 | MKmisfit | i want to try using a unit for a skybox, how can i make the skybox unit follow perfectly, so it wont lag behind? Is there a way to attach one unit to another? |
| 13:31.38 | Helral|Work | yay I fixed the loading problem.... (duration thingy) |
| 13:31.48 | Bounty | easy misfit |
| 13:31.53 | Bounty | dont make a unit for the skybox |
| 13:31.56 | Bounty | just use the model |
| 13:32.00 | Arthas- | ay combo was really cool :D |
| 13:32.07 | Bounty | u can attach a model to a unit with a trigger |
| 13:32.12 | Arthas- | And I still like the concept :p |
| 13:32.12 | Bounty | ay combo? |
| 13:32.21 | Arthas- | ay, combo was really cool* |
| 13:32.28 | Bounty | what is ay |
| 13:32.31 | Bounty | lol |
| 13:32.32 | Arthas- | yes |
| 13:32.32 | Arthas- | ay |
| 13:32.35 | Arthas- | :D |
| 13:32.40 | Bounty | ah |
| 13:32.42 | Bounty | :) |
| 13:32.52 | Arthas- | dont know if anyone else uses its, I do though! |
| 13:32.58 | Dekar | Pierrot do you have anything working now? |
| 13:33.04 | MKmisfit | i think it needs to be a unit so i can use cloaked and buried to hide it from other players, so it can be smaller than the far clip, i need to have far clip |
| 13:33.25 | Bounty | oh ok |
| 13:33.29 | Bounty | i didnt know u were doing multiplayer |
| 13:33.35 | Bounty | but just do a periodic trigger |
| 13:33.42 | Bounty | move unit to position of unit |
| 13:33.44 | Bounty | instantly |
| 13:33.47 | Bounty | blend |
| 13:34.00 | MKmisfit | hmm, maybe with the blend on |
| 13:34.00 | Bounty | but make it so your skybox unit has no collision |
| 13:34.03 | Bounty | yeah |
| 13:34.05 | Bounty | it works :) |
| 13:34.08 | Bounty | thats what i did |
| 13:34.18 | Bounty | with blend off u can see it moving more easily |
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| 13:49.13 | Mephs | damn |
| 13:49.20 | Mephs | 1 american player in GSL s3 |
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| 14:06.31 | doite | AAh how anoying |
| 14:06.39 | doite | Now to change a thing |
| 14:07.03 | doite | I had when playing click mouse left shoot gun ( easy explained |
| 14:07.29 | doite | Now i want when player hold mouse left .. I want to make it a machine hun |
| 14:08.51 | A1win | does "Stasis" in unit filter mean stuff like fungal growth? |
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| 14:14.59 | Thorsell | LOL |
| 14:15.02 | Thorsell | now |
| 14:15.03 | Thorsell | I see |
| 14:15.10 | Dustin|Laptop | Sup[ |
| 14:15.14 | Thorsell | why it all was so dark |
| 14:15.17 | Thorsell | hey dustin |
| 14:15.24 | Thorsell | forgot to create a revealeer |
| 14:15.34 | Thorsell | so everything was super dark ingame |
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| 14:17.29 | J-Man_ | mornin'! |
| 14:17.34 | Dustin|Laptop | mornin guy! |
| 14:18.09 | Thorsell | Hey dude |
| 14:18.46 | doite | If i have a trigger where it shoots when i press 1. and i want to change so it keeps shooting til i release one |
| 14:18.47 | J-Man_ | so i have 3 computer players on my map, and i don't want them to show up in the lobby |
| 14:18.56 | doite | Is there any "hold" function? |
| 14:19.21 | J-Man_ | you could set a variable, and have a periodic trigger continue the shooting |
| 14:19.34 | J-Man_ | event - " |
| 14:19.37 | Deaod | can you check if "1" is currently pressed? |
| 14:19.38 | J-Man_ | 1 is pressed |
| 14:19.53 | J-Man_ | set variable "button pressed" to true |
| 14:20.02 | J-Man_ | event - periodic - every second |
| 14:20.03 | Thorsell | if RELEASED > sto |
| 14:20.05 | Thorsell | p |
| 14:20.15 | J-Man_ | iif "button pressed" is true... |
| 14:20.17 | J-Man_ | shoot |
| 14:20.42 | Thorsell | seems fairly easy to set up |
| 14:20.45 | doite | I do understand what u explained |
| 14:20.59 | doite | But i dont know how to do it, even if thorsell thinks its easy |
| 14:21.09 | doite | Becouse its not my library and i dont want to mess with it |
| 14:21.34 | Dustin|Laptop | You dont have to mess with the library |
| 14:21.57 | Dustin|Laptop | Make a new trigger, have the event ANy Player Presses a Key 1 Down |
| 14:22.03 | Deaod | also, J-Man, why dont you just disable the slots you used for computers? |
| 14:22.07 | Dustin|Laptop | then just set a boolean variable, 1isdown = true |
| 14:22.18 | doite | Ok |
| 14:22.23 | J-Man_ | if i disable them, they show up as hostile on the map |
| 14:22.24 | doite | Then what do i link it to? |
| 14:22.29 | J-Man_ | i need them to be allied to certain players |
| 14:22.54 | Deaod | so ally them with those players manually? |
| 14:23.08 | Deaod | ie. through the trigger editor |
| 14:23.27 | J-Man_ | yeah, all the alliances are set in triggers |
| 14:23.39 | Deaod | so what doesnt work? |
| 14:23.41 | RoarSleep | HI PEOPLE! |
| 14:23.53 | J-Man_ | when you call the alliance function for a disabled player, nothing happens |
| 14:24.05 | J-Man_ | they stay hostile to everyone |
| 14:24.07 | Deaod | kill a blizzard employee |
| 14:24.11 | Deaod | really, do it. |
| 14:24.24 | RoarSleep | Lol Deaod |
| 14:24.42 | Deaod | someone deserves to die for such stupidity. |
| 14:25.10 | J-Man_ | i can't find any information on it. i can't believe no one else has had computer players on a map |
| 14:25.21 | J-Man_ | besides just player 15 |
| 14:25.35 | A1win | you mean players set to "Hostile"? |
| 14:25.46 | A1win | or what.. |
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| 14:25.49 | Deaod | try changing control from computer to neutral or hostile |
| 14:25.59 | J-Man_ | they stay neutral |
| 14:25.59 | A1win | I have 3 players set to "None" and the alliance changes work just fine |
| 14:26.05 | Deaod | or hostile? |
| 14:26.31 | J-Man_ | ah. i see what it is |
| 14:26.38 | J-Man_ | i was using their race to set alliances |
| 14:26.42 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.44 | J-Man_ | if they are "none", they have no race |
| 14:26.47 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.51 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.15 | doite | And i put it as a local variable (since it should reset right?) |
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| 14:27.34 | J-Man_ | local variables go away when the trigger ends |
| 14:27.56 | doite | thats what i mean.. becouse if its global it will never stop shooting? |
| 14:28.18 | J-Man_ | if it's not global, you can't reference the variable from another trigger |
| 14:28.27 | doite | damn |
| 14:28.29 | doite | Thats true |
| 14:28.31 | J-Man_ | you need your click event to both set and clear the flag |
| 14:28.36 | Deaod | global just means that the variable is accessible from any part of the script. |
| 14:28.37 | J-Man_ | if it's set, it needs to clear it |
| 14:28.49 | Thorsell | is there a button to hold to copy manually placed doodads? I'm placing out some landing lights |
| 14:29.08 | doite | God damn it i really cant do this.. |
| 14:29.18 | J-Man_ | so i can't set a player race after the fact, can i? |
| 14:29.20 | Aussie123 | why are there no chat channels yet :[ |
| 14:29.23 | J-Man_ | you can |
| 14:29.27 | J-Man_ | why can't you? |
| 14:30.07 | J-Man_ | if machinegun[(triggering player)] = true, set machinegun[(triggering player] = false else set machinegun[(triggering player)] = true |
| 14:30.09 | Aussie123 | and when are they going to get rid of this shit popularity system its crap for the majority of map makers |
| 14:30.28 | doite | 1 Becouse i lack the knowledge, and 2 that means i have to ask u all the time, which is embarrasing |
| 14:30.37 | doite | Thx jman |
| 14:30.42 | J-Man_ | but eventually you'll get it |
| 14:30.55 | J-Man_ | i ask questions all the time. it's how you learn |
| 14:31.00 | J-Man_ | i wouldn't worry about it so much |
| 14:31.12 | J-Man_ | besides, i love triggers |
| 14:31.35 | J-Man_ | now the data editor.... i hate that stuff |
| 14:31.49 | J-Man_ | it would be a great tool if it were properly documented |
| 14:31.50 | Deaod | set machinegun[(Triggering Player)] = Not (Machinegun[(Triggering Player)]) would be shorter if youre just flipping |
| 14:31.59 | J-Man_ | yes |
| 14:32.04 | J-Man_ | i wasn't sure if you could do that |
| 14:32.26 | J-Man_ | do what he said |
| 14:32.37 | Deaod | also, make sure you have enough space to fit every player that can trigger the event into that array |
| 14:33.11 | Bounty | i swear to god |
| 14:33.21 | Bounty | PCSX2 is like the greatest thing since sliced bread |
| 14:33.41 | Bounty | "What? I can make my PS2 games look better then 360? OKAY!" |
| 14:34.27 | J-Man_ | it's a PSX2 emulator? |
| 14:34.32 | Bounty | yeah |
| 14:34.40 | Bounty | but its so damn good lol |
| 14:34.45 | J-Man_ | it's actually fast enough? |
| 14:34.50 | Bounty | uh yeah |
| 14:34.56 | doite | Ok.. |
| 14:34.57 | Bounty | i played kingdom hearts 1 and 2 |
| 14:35.03 | doite | Now i have my dear triggers up |
| 14:35.03 | Bounty | all the way through |
| 14:35.06 | Bounty | at 60 fps |
| 14:35.15 | J-Man_ | wow |
| 14:35.15 | doite | How do i somehow link this to the shoot trigger? |
| 14:35.23 | Bounty | look it up lol |
| 14:35.23 | J-Man_ | much glitching? |
| 14:35.25 | Bounty | its crazy |
| 14:35.26 | Bounty | nope |
| 14:35.30 | Bounty | not at all |
| 14:35.34 | J-Man_ | you can call the shoot trigger |
| 14:35.50 | doite | call? |
| 14:35.52 | doite | like run? |
| 14:36.31 | J-Man_ | yeah |
| 14:36.36 | Bounty | like |
| 14:36.38 | Bounty | J-man |
| 14:36.44 | Bounty | im playing Disgaea 1 RIGHT now |
| 14:36.47 | Bounty | as im talking to u |
| 14:36.50 | Bounty | perfectly fine |
| 14:36.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 14:37.11 | J-Man_ | not bad |
| 14:37.25 | Bounty | highly suggest u snag it |
| 14:37.26 | J-Man_ | doite, is it an actual trigger or an action definition? |
| 14:37.35 | Bounty | also, there is a Wii Emulator |
| 14:37.40 | Bounty | that works just as good |
| 14:37.48 | Bounty | and you know whats surprising? |
| 14:37.56 | J-Man_ | so i set the computer players to "none", and apparently now i have vision of them :( |
| 14:38.04 | Bounty | Smash Bros Brawl looks better then most ps3 and xbox 360 games when you upscale it to HD :) |
| 14:38.18 | RoarSleep | Brawl is great but other Wii games suck balls honestly |
| 14:38.27 | RoarSleep | Wii has such shitty 3rd party games |
| 14:38.31 | A1win | J-Man_, shouldn't have by default o: |
| 14:38.32 | Bounty | i know im talking about graphics wise |
| 14:38.37 | RoarMan | Ah :P |
| 14:38.39 | Bounty | if you play it on the Dolphin emulator |
| 14:38.46 | Bounty | and upscale the graphics |
| 14:38.50 | Bounty | it looks like a fucking ps3 game |
| 14:38.52 | Bounty | like |
| 14:39.00 | RoarMan | Oh wow |
| 14:39.06 | Bounty | Killzone 3 < Smash Bros Brawl Upscaled |
| 14:39.12 | A1win | J-Man_, or just set the alliance aspect so that you don't have |
| 14:39.13 | Bounty | graphics |
| 14:39.14 | Bounty | >< |
| 14:39.21 | Deaod | well, my PC cant handle 800*600 GC games using dolphin |
| 14:39.33 | RoarMan | XD |
| 14:39.37 | Bounty | did u use the official version? |
| 14:39.44 | Bounty | they released it recently |
| 14:39.47 | Bounty | 2.0 |
| 14:40.00 | Deaod | i think so, but let me look it up |
| 14:40.01 | J-Man_ | no, the vision is a seperate trigger |
| 14:40.30 | J-Man_ | that's the part that is based on race. man, i don't want to have to recode that |
| 14:40.35 | Bounty | http://www.dolphin-emu.com |
| 14:40.47 | Bounty | and |
| 14:40.48 | Bounty | http://pcsx2.net/ |
| 14:40.57 | Bounty | I highly suggest all mappers have those :) |
| 14:41.09 | Bounty | They are great for inspirational playthroughs while mapping |
| 14:41.20 | Bounty | Like, im playing disgaea for inspiration for win the crowd |
| 14:41.25 | Bounty | while i map |
| 14:41.31 | J-Man_ | yup, it was my vision trigger |
| 14:41.36 | RoarMan | pscx2? |
| 14:41.36 | RoarMan | Wtf |
| 14:41.41 | Bounty | yeah |
| 14:41.46 | Bounty | PS2 emulator |
| 14:41.48 | RoarMan | Nvm I just looked it up |
| 14:41.50 | Bounty | but it doesnt suck |
| 14:41.54 | RoarMan | Ohrlly |
| 14:41.55 | J-Man_ | it was setting regions based on buildings, and the race of the owner of those buildings |
| 14:41.56 | Bounty | like honestly man |
| 14:42.06 | Bounty | i downloaded Dolphin (Wii emulator) and Pcsx2 |
| 14:42.08 | Bounty | and i shit my pants |
| 14:42.11 | J-Man_ | since none of the "none" players have a race, it was doing some hinky things instead |
| 14:42.11 | Bounty | when i booted up games |
| 14:42.16 | Bounty | couldnt believei t |
| 14:42.18 | Bounty | because |
| 14:42.19 | Deaod | Metroid Primes Start screen runs at 80% speed at some crazy low resolution |
| 14:42.25 | Deaod | using dolphin 2.0 |
| 14:42.30 | Bounty | the PS2 Emulator and Wii Emulators run better then fucking SNES ones |
| 14:42.36 | RoarMan | Lies |
| 14:42.45 | Bounty | im serious |
| 14:42.48 | Bounty | i get slowdown |
| 14:42.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ashamed (20616e3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.32.97.110.63) |
| 14:42.50 | RoarMan | Dolphin I always thought was just GC |
| 14:42.51 | Bounty | on Super Mario RPG |
| 14:42.53 | Bounty | for snes |
| 14:42.54 | RoarMan | ROFl |
| 14:42.57 | A1win | J-Man_, I just put the players into global player group variables so I can check if they're in them |
| 14:43.02 | Bounty | but i can run kingdom hearts 2 |
| 14:43.04 | Bounty | in HD |
| 14:43.06 | A1win | instead of comparing something random :P |
| 14:43.06 | Bounty | 60 fps |
| 14:43.08 | Bounty | like wtf? |
| 14:43.17 | J-Man_ | that makes sense |
| 14:43.19 | Ashamed | hey anyone experinced with linux??? |
| 14:43.20 | Bounty | I've never used Dolphin for gamecube games |
| 14:43.26 | Bounty | but yeah it can do that to |
| 14:43.58 | J-Man_ | its not really random tho, the whole game is racial-based |
| 14:44.27 | J-Man_ | cuz i'm a starcraft ii racist |
| 14:44.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster Obatztrara (8af602b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.246.2.177) |
| 14:44.38 | Obatztrara | hey guys |
| 14:44.43 | J-Man_ | stupid terrans ;) |
| 14:45.27 | Bounty | When i finish Win the Crowd |
| 14:45.32 | Bounty | i should make a sequel if it does well |
| 14:45.47 | Bounty | and make it the other way around, in that you are the current champs and have to defend your title :) |
| 14:46.29 | A1win | sounds more boring :P |
| 14:46.32 | A1win | less original |
| 14:46.33 | J-Man_ | careful not to put the cart before the horse |
| 14:46.54 | Bounty | more boring? |
| 14:47.02 | Bounty | it would be the same game lol |
| 14:47.09 | A1win | yeah but the idea sounds boring ;p |
| 14:47.22 | A1win | I don't even know any specifics of the map :P |
| 14:47.26 | Bounty | 20 bucks says when you play the game |
| 14:47.29 | A1win | just guessing based on the name |
| 14:47.32 | Bounty | you will beg for more/a sequel :) |
| 14:47.37 | A1win | and what I've read here |
| 14:47.59 | A1win | I didn't say you shouldn't make a sequel ;p |
| 14:48.08 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Vv0sEO1sc |
| 14:48.12 | Bounty | Thats the latest video |
| 14:48.45 | A1win | the character selection needs borders for the pics |
| 14:48.52 | A1win | :P |
| 14:49.06 | Bounty | and i will ignore that |
| 14:49.08 | Bounty | because |
| 14:49.22 | Bounty | the video is over one minute, you didnt finish the video before making a statement lol |
| 14:49.33 | J-Man_ | w00t w00t! |
| 14:49.37 | J-Man_ | my lobby works now |
| 14:49.49 | Obatztrara | the music your using is not ingame right? (always looking for nice epic themes :P) |
| 14:49.57 | Obatztrara | @ bounty |
| 14:50.00 | Mephs | eghghg |
| 14:50.02 | J-Man_ | kind of |
| 14:50.12 | J-Man_ | new team still shows up, and i can drag players into it |
| 14:50.14 | Bounty | what do u mean obatz |
| 14:50.17 | Bounty | not ingame? |
| 14:50.20 | J-Man_ | but i guess it doesn't really matter |
| 14:50.29 | Mephs | bounty release your game so i can call it shit |
| 14:50.35 | Mephs | for one reason or another |
| 14:50.41 | Bounty | to late mephs |
| 14:50.49 | Bounty | you already posted in the thead on bnet |
| 14:50.52 | Bounty | saying it doesnt look like shit |
| 14:50.56 | Bounty | gg |
| 14:50.57 | Mephs | "look" |
| 14:51.04 | Mephs | but i'll find something to nitpick about it |
| 14:51.13 | Mephs | its not a vs game |
| 14:51.14 | Mephs | it sucks |
| 14:51.16 | Mephs | fuck you |
| 14:51.17 | Mephs | and your dog |
| 14:51.18 | Obatztrara | I mean is it a sc2 soundtrack or music you imported/added to the video |
| 14:51.23 | Bounty | ah |
| 14:51.25 | Bounty | its imported |
| 14:51.30 | Obatztrara | too bad :< |
| 14:51.38 | Bounty | its nto added to the video |
| 14:51.41 | Bounty | its in the actual game |
| 14:51.44 | Bounty | when u play it |
| 14:52.04 | Bounty | the map has 6 mp3's |
| 14:52.17 | Obatztrara | oh one thing about that: I had a sond imported some time ago, but whenever I would start it with triggers (which worked) the game would freeze and load for like 1-2 seconds... |
| 14:52.24 | Obatztrara | have you experienced anything like that? |
| 14:52.29 | Bounty | lol wtf |
| 14:52.30 | Bounty | no |
| 14:52.33 | Obatztrara | gna. |
| 14:52.34 | Bounty | thats wierd |
| 14:52.40 | Bounty | oh wait |
| 14:52.45 | Bounty | u said load |
| 14:52.49 | Bounty | i thought u meant it locked up |
| 14:52.53 | Bounty | yes ive had that problem |
| 14:52.56 | Obatztrara | aahhh |
| 14:52.59 | Bounty | only if the song is like |
| 14:53.03 | Bounty | suber HQ |
| 14:53.06 | Obatztrara | its 3 mb |
| 14:53.06 | Bounty | like.. 320kbs |
| 14:53.07 | A1win | youtube is being slow |
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| 14:53.20 | Bounty | whats the bitrate |
| 14:53.21 | A1win | still haven't managed to download it :P |
| 14:53.25 | Obatztrara | but you don't use any kind of preload right? |
| 14:53.34 | Obatztrara | i dunno...like 100mbs only i think |
| 14:53.37 | Obatztrara | kbs* |
| 14:53.46 | Bounty | i dont even know what that is or how to use it |
| 14:53.49 | Bounty | so im going to assume no |
| 14:53.51 | Obatztrara | :D |
| 14:53.52 | Bounty | :) |
| 14:54.31 | Obatztrara | I mean the sound is playing fine, it's just the FIRST time it's triggered there's huge lagg... |
| 14:54.36 | Obatztrara | well... |
| 14:54.38 | A1win | make your effects less eye-hurting :P |
| 14:54.49 | Bounty | just stop A1win |
| 14:54.58 | Bounty | ur worse then Bibendus |
| 14:55.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 14:55.05 | A1win | about what? <.< |
| 14:55.12 | Bounty | nothing positive, just constant nitpicks |
| 14:55.18 | A1win | ... |
| 14:55.19 | Bounty | >< |
| 14:55.26 | A1win | don't post your vids then if you don't want criticism :P |
| 14:55.46 | Bounty | i take criticism |
| 14:55.49 | Bounty | but look at what ur saying lol |
| 14:55.54 | Bounty | this is all uve said |
| 14:55.57 | A1win | I'm saying it looks horrible |
| 14:56.02 | Bounty | "That needs a border, you need less effects" |
| 14:56.12 | Bounty | and u saw nothing good? |
| 14:56.13 | A1win | that's all I could make out of the video |
| 14:56.25 | A1win | I assume you already know what's good about it |
| 14:56.28 | A1win | -.- |
| 14:56.43 | Bounty | Well thats the point of feedback |
| 14:56.50 | A1win | if I don't point out the good things, it doesn't mean I didn't see them |
| 14:56.50 | Bounty | To get a feel from people of wha t they like |
| 14:56.53 | Bounty | and what they dont |
| 14:57.10 | A1win | yeah? ;p |
| 14:57.16 | Dustin|Laptop | Bounty |
| 14:57.18 | Dustin|Laptop | Looks badass |
| 14:57.20 | Bounty | i only take the crticism if its of both :) |
| 14:57.25 | Bounty | like i wanna know what u like |
| 14:57.27 | Bounty | and waht u dont |
| 14:57.30 | A1win | :P fine |
| 14:57.36 | Bounty | i dont want nitpicks |
| 14:57.38 | A1win | I won't give you any more criticism then |
| 14:57.40 | Bounty | bc thats all bibendus does lol |
| 14:58.02 | Bounty | thx Dustin, any feedback? :) |
| 14:58.13 | Bounty | Ideas and suggestions are taken into thought to |
| 14:58.15 | Bounty | EXCEPT |
| 14:58.22 | Dustin|Laptop | Use something other then the boss bars |
| 14:58.24 | A1win | I never really care about the positive feedback people give me because it's ALWAYS something I already knew |
| 14:58.24 | Bounty | If you request a chrono trigger type team combo system |
| 14:58.32 | Bounty | i wont listen |
| 14:58.38 | Bounty | becuase ive had that request like 30 times |
| 14:58.41 | Bounty | im working on it :) |
| 14:58.43 | Dustin|Laptop | That'd be to hard for real time |
| 14:59.06 | Bounty | wel A1 |
| 14:59.06 | Dustin|Laptop | Add a jump function |
| 14:59.09 | Bounty | when i say positive feedback |
| 14:59.12 | Bounty | i dont mind EVERYTHING |
| 14:59.13 | Bounty | i mean like |
| 14:59.15 | Dustin|Laptop | I dont play games unless I can jump in them |
| 14:59.17 | Bounty | what people REALLY liked |
| 14:59.22 | Bounty | like what stood out |
| 14:59.30 | Bounty | bc i want everything to be on that level |
| 14:59.38 | Bounty | i guess u wont be playing this then Dustin lol |
| 14:59.43 | Bounty | I refuse to add jump |
| 14:59.44 | Dustin|Laptop | Damnit! |
| 14:59.46 | Bounty | Its so useless |
| 14:59.48 | Dustin|Laptop | Add a damn jump! |
| 14:59.48 | Bounty | and looks horrible |
| 14:59.52 | Bounty | it looks stupid |
| 14:59.57 | Bounty | give me a fucking jump animation |
| 14:59.57 | Dustin|Laptop | Make it look goood |
| 14:59.58 | Bounty | rofl |
| 15:00.02 | Bounty | how |
| 15:00.07 | Bounty | there is no way |
| 15:00.10 | Dustin|Laptop | Make your own jump animation :P |
| 15:00.15 | Bounty | how |
| 15:00.16 | A1win | Bounty, let's put it this way: the bad things I noticed caught my attention so much that I didn't pay any attention to the good things |
| 15:00.19 | Dustin|Laptop | 3dsmax |
| 15:00.30 | Bounty | i dont have that nor do i know how to use it :) |
| 15:00.36 | Bounty | A1 |
| 15:00.38 | Dustin|Laptop | Look into getting someone to make you some cool jump animations |
| 15:00.39 | Bounty | so ur tellin me |
| 15:00.47 | Dustin|Laptop | Cause I think that'd be sick |
| 15:00.52 | Bounty | that the character portraits not having a border stood out to u so much |
| 15:00.57 | Bounty | u didnt see anythign beyond that |
| 15:00.59 | Bounty | lol? |
| 15:01.00 | A1win | no, the bright effects |
| 15:01.14 | A1win | the portraits was when I had loaded like 5 seconds of the video, it was the first thing that caught my eye |
| 15:01.21 | Bounty | ah |
| 15:01.35 | Bounty | well idk if its the video or not but the effects are not overwhelming in game |
| 15:01.48 | A1win | they just seemed to cover the entire screen |
| 15:01.50 | Bounty | and, its supposed to be over the top |
| 15:01.56 | Bounty | well yeah |
| 15:02.01 | Bounty | tier 3 moves are over the top |
| 15:02.05 | Bounty | thats the point lol |
| 15:02.09 | A1win | :> |
| 15:02.30 | J-Man_ | i'm over your mom's top |
| 15:02.34 | Bounty | If your going for crowd favor, simeply throwing a grenade or swinging an axe wont do much |
| 15:02.37 | J-Man_ | sorry, that wasn't constructive |
| 15:02.38 | Bounty | gotta do something big |
| 15:02.42 | A1win | well I guess some people like flashing bright lights :P |
| 15:02.54 | Bounty | the whole game isnt flashing bright lights |
| 15:02.57 | Obatztrara | I think it might be a good idea to make the arena more interactive...right now it looks pretty good, but its not exactly part of the action.. |
| 15:02.57 | J-Man_ | everyone likes shiny things. who are you kidding |
| 15:03.06 | Bounty | that video demonstrates tier 3 combos being used as a team |
| 15:03.17 | Bounty | tier 1 and 2 are not like that |
| 15:03.19 | Bounty | at all |
| 15:03.24 | A1win | kk |
| 15:03.37 | Bounty | What do you mean Obatz? |
| 15:03.42 | Bounty | Make the Arena talk? |
| 15:03.56 | curry-away | lol |
| 15:04.02 | Obatztrara | >_> |
| 15:04.13 | Obatztrara | could be lots of things |
| 15:04.14 | Dustin|Laptop | Make raising and lowering platforms or timed obsticals |
| 15:04.15 | J-Man_ | you could have points in the arena that do cetain things, that move around randomly |
| 15:04.21 | J-Man_ | like hazards or buffs |
| 15:04.25 | Bounty | ah |
| 15:04.26 | Obatztrara | like the audience throwing weapons or stuff to use in the arena |
| 15:04.29 | Dustin|Laptop | That'd be interesting |
| 15:04.32 | Obatztrara | yea hazards sounds good |
| 15:04.37 | Bounty | well i want to do that |
| 15:04.40 | Bounty | but as it stands |
| 15:04.48 | Bounty | its hard enough beating level 1 |
| 15:04.53 | Bounty | with a plain arena |
| 15:04.54 | A1win | or they could throw some annying members of the audience in the arena o: |
| 15:04.55 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:05.04 | J-Man_ | yeah, i'm having the same problem in my game |
| 15:05.16 | J-Man_ | you really need to level heros up to take on more than just a few units |
| 15:05.23 | curry-away | "Bob, I hate you ... *toss Bob into the arena See ya later!" |
| 15:05.31 | Bounty | lolol |
| 15:05.56 | J-Man_ | like i added a whole bunch of stuff to a marine, and he still couldn't really take on a zealot 1v1 |
| 15:06.03 | Bounty | yeah i dont disagree with the whole make the arena interactive thing |
| 15:06.08 | Bounty | i want to do that |
| 15:06.26 | Bounty | would take more then simple hazards though |
| 15:06.33 | Obatztrara | do you know those movies when a fight extends into the crowd and a few spectators get hit or whatever? |
| 15:06.34 | Bounty | needs to be something original |
| 15:06.41 | Bounty | lolol |
| 15:06.44 | Bounty | like in wrestling? |
| 15:06.48 | Obatztrara | yeeaa ;) |
| 15:06.50 | Obatztrara | do that |
| 15:06.55 | Bounty | that would be funny as shit |
| 15:06.56 | J-Man_ | you could balanace the hazards with buffs |
| 15:06.57 | Bounty | roflrofl |
| 15:07.02 | J-Man_ | like a healing zone that moves around |
| 15:07.12 | A1win | got any obstacles in the arena? |
| 15:07.13 | Obatztrara | yea, make it less static |
| 15:07.19 | A1win | or is it just open space |
| 15:07.32 | Bounty | well right now its just an open space decorated |
| 15:07.37 | Bounty | but thats only bc i only have like |
| 15:07.39 | Bounty | 3 levels done |
| 15:07.46 | Bounty | the later levels i DID want to add a twist |
| 15:08.09 | Bounty | and it cant be healing |
| 15:08.12 | Bounty | there is no hp in the game |
| 15:08.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:08.49 | J-Man_ | fair enough |
| 15:08.53 | J-Man_ | what about pickups? |
| 15:08.59 | J-Man_ | double damage |
| 15:09.05 | J-Man_ | speed upgrade |
| 15:09.05 | Bounty | nah |
| 15:09.10 | Bounty | thats to plain |
| 15:09.19 | J-Man_ | pickups? plain? |
| 15:09.25 | Bounty | not pickups in general |
| 15:09.33 | Bounty | but double damage and speed boost |
| 15:09.52 | J-Man_ | double damage can have a pretty big impact |
| 15:10.00 | Bounty | and it wouldnt be fair |
| 15:10.04 | Bounty | u can already get double damage |
| 15:10.07 | Bounty | with team combos |
| 15:10.10 | J-Man_ | ok |
| 15:10.19 | J-Man_ | well those were just examples |
| 15:10.25 | Bounty | i know :) |
| 15:10.26 | J-Man_ | pickups can balance hazards |
| 15:10.34 | Bounty | psh |
| 15:10.45 | Bounty | hazards dont need balancing lol |
| 15:10.49 | Bounty | u mess up |
| 15:10.51 | Bounty | u lose |
| 15:10.53 | Bounty | :) |
| 15:11.02 | J-Man_ | well i was just going on what you said |
| 15:11.10 | J-Man_ | that it was kind of hard already |
| 15:11.19 | Bounty | yeah |
| 15:11.25 | Bounty | but if i make a hazard |
| 15:11.29 | Bounty | that effects both teams |
| 15:11.34 | Bounty | it would work fine |
| 15:11.54 | J-Man_ | well, balance between teams is good |
| 15:12.12 | J-Man_ | but if it's too hard, no one will play, making balance between teams not matter at all |
| 15:12.23 | Bounty | well its going to be VERY hard |
| 15:12.28 | Bounty | thats the point |
| 15:12.34 | J-Man_ | very hard is not necessarily too hard |
| 15:12.35 | Bounty | thats why it has that restart fuction |
| 15:12.45 | J-Man_ | ew |
| 15:12.47 | Bounty | bc u will get ur ass handed to u multiple times |
| 15:12.51 | Bounty | ew? |
| 15:12.52 | J-Man_ | that i don't care for... sorry |
| 15:12.57 | Bounty | wtf |
| 15:12.59 | Bounty | so ur telling me |
| 15:13.01 | Bounty | if u lose a fight |
| 15:13.06 | Bounty | u would want it to end the game? |
| 15:13.18 | Bounty | rather then have the option to restart the fight u lost |
| 15:13.22 | J-Man_ | well, maybe i don't understand it perfectly |
| 15:13.36 | Bounty | if you lose an encounter |
| 15:13.41 | Bounty | u have the option to rematch |
| 15:13.41 | Dustin|Laptop | I love retrys |
| 15:13.45 | J-Man_ | that's not so bad |
| 15:13.46 | Bounty | which just starts the encounter over |
| 15:13.53 | Bounty | because like i said to many others |
| 15:14.00 | Bounty | it will be impossible to go the entire game without losing |
| 15:14.06 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:14.21 | Bounty | unless u have 3 people who can read eachothers minds |
| 15:14.52 | Bounty | if anything i should be getting praise for that feature |
| 15:14.58 | Bounty | because u realize what that means right? |
| 15:15.02 | Bounty | no popularity |
| 15:15.05 | Bounty | but |
| 15:15.07 | Obatztrara | yep :P |
| 15:15.10 | Bounty | i sacrificed that |
| 15:15.14 | Bounty | so u could get friends |
| 15:15.16 | Bounty | and stay with friends |
| 15:15.19 | doite | Sigh |
| 15:15.21 | Bounty | rather then remake |
| 15:15.27 | doite | I somehow pressed control + something |
| 15:15.36 | doite | So now all brids and fog show |
| 15:15.42 | Obatztrara | that doesnt really narrow it down doite ;) |
| 15:15.49 | doite | =) |
| 15:15.50 | doite | Ok |
| 15:15.58 | Bounty | Like even if u join a random game, what if u end up with 2 ppl u want to continue to play with |
| 15:16.00 | doite | When placing a .. bird flying somewhere |
| 15:16.02 | Bounty | that would suck if the game just ended lol |
| 15:16.03 | doite | U get a arrow |
| 15:16.09 | doite | But now i se the actual birds |
| 15:16.10 | doite | Flying |
| 15:16.31 | doite | I dont want that.. i want my regular doodad arrow back |
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| 15:16.43 | Obatztrara | ahh yea you probably set to ingame view |
| 15:17.40 | Obatztrara | I can't open the terrain editor right now though...but it should be somewhere among View/Display |
| 15:17.58 | doite | perfect |
| 15:17.59 | doite | thx |
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| 15:18.41 | Bounty | nab |
| 15:18.42 | Bounty | man |
| 15:18.46 | Bounty | u know what pisses me off |
| 15:18.48 | Bounty | all i need is like |
| 15:18.53 | Bounty | 5 more mb of file space |
| 15:18.56 | Bounty | to do what i really want |
| 15:18.57 | Bounty | but no |
| 15:19.00 | harl | wuff |
| 15:19.58 | J-Man_ | what are you trying to do? |
| 15:20.16 | Bounty | i want more models and mp3's lol |
| 15:20.27 | J-Man_ | ah |
| 15:20.29 | Bounty | i really dont want the game to only last 9 levels |
| 15:20.34 | Bounty | i wanted it to be longer |
| 15:20.51 | J-Man_ | you might have to recycle some things |
| 15:20.57 | Bounty | nah |
| 15:21.02 | Bounty | may as well just end the game |
| 15:21.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:21.08 | Bounty | on a good note, rather then recycle |
| 15:21.19 | J-Man_ | how many mp3s do you have now? |
| 15:21.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster Leaderboard (5bb4e8bd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.232.189) |
| 15:21.26 | Bounty | 5ish |
| 15:21.32 | Bounty | 1 normal fight song |
| 15:21.32 | J-Man_ | ah |
| 15:21.34 | Leaderboard | hi |
| 15:21.35 | Bounty | 1 boss theme |
| 15:21.40 | Bounty | 1 main theme |
| 15:21.45 | Bounty | and 2 songs for the final boss |
| 15:22.00 | Thorsell | someone should implement an .xm player |
| 15:22.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster Acemore (~lol@90.84-49-196.nextgentel.com) |
| 15:22.02 | J-Man_ | you can always just make a seperate round 2 game |
| 15:22.04 | Thorsell | into the editor |
| 15:22.20 | Bounty | well thats what im going to have to do J-man :) |
| 15:22.27 | Bounty | idk if u were here |
| 15:22.28 | Thorsell | Sounds like a plan ^__________^ |
| 15:22.36 | Bounty | i said that alittle bit ago |
| 15:22.43 | Acemore | wow |
| 15:22.46 | Acemore | still up Bounty? |
| 15:22.48 | Bounty | that im gonna have to make a sequel |
| 15:22.49 | Acemore | :) |
| 15:22.49 | Bounty | no |
| 15:22.52 | Bounty | i went to bed |
| 15:22.54 | Acemore | AH OK |
| 15:22.56 | Acemore | caps |
| 15:22.58 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:22.58 | Thorsell | lol |
| 15:23.01 | Thorsell | timezones |
| 15:23.45 | Bounty | no offense |
| 15:23.49 | Bounty | but mapster sucks for publicity |
| 15:24.00 | Bounty | u get 10,000 views in 5 minutes on TL |
| 15:24.06 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:24.08 | Bounty | shit is crazy |
| 15:24.36 | Bounty | Couldnt believe it because i thought mapster was the one and only |
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| 15:34.34 | Thorsell | :P |
| 15:34.59 | J-Man_ | yeah i was here |
| 15:35.17 | J-Man_ | are you using banks at all? |
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| 15:38.11 | J-Man_ | alright, here goes nothing... |
| 15:41.00 | J-Man_ | well, it was something, but not everything i wanted |
| 15:42.01 | J-Man_ | ok that's even worse |
| 15:42.15 | Bounty | Do you guys think i should have alittle story for Win the Crowd? |
| 15:42.32 | J-Man_ | a little, yeah |
| 15:42.40 | J-Man_ | never too much |
| 15:42.45 | Bounty | idk how to deliver it though |
| 15:42.56 | Bounty | it would have to be at the start of the game before u select ur chr |
| 15:43.00 | J-Man_ | between levels? |
| 15:43.11 | Bounty | well there isnt anything going on between levels |
| 15:43.18 | Bounty | the story is pretty easy to understand |
| 15:43.21 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:43.40 | J-Man_ | there elegance in simplicity |
| 15:43.53 | J-Man_ | you don't want something as story-heavy as FFVII |
| 15:43.58 | Bounty | yeah i know |
| 15:44.00 | Bounty | its not even a story |
| 15:44.05 | Bounty | its like |
| 15:44.17 | Bounty | Ministry = Current Champs and they are bad |
| 15:44.19 | J-Man_ | who cares? a reason to be fighting is all the story you need |
| 15:44.29 | Bounty | You = challenger |
| 15:44.37 | Bounty | yeah |
| 15:44.37 | J-Man_ | and then maybe a little bit of development that ends with a climax |
| 15:45.01 | J-Man_ | adds depth without taking away from the gameplay |
| 15:45.06 | Bounty | i think i just summed it up well |
| 15:45.10 | J-Man_ | too much story takes away from the gameplay |
| 15:45.10 | Bounty | does that make sense? |
| 15:45.22 | J-Man_ | why are they bad? |
| 15:45.29 | Bounty | bc they are evil :) |
| 15:45.44 | J-Man_ | then maybe just a few taunts between levels |
| 15:45.59 | J-Man_ | give the player a reason to want to kill them |
| 15:46.38 | Bounty | u dont kill them |
| 15:46.40 | Bounty | :) |
| 15:46.56 | J-Man_ | you could probably put most of your "story" on the loading screen |
| 15:47.10 | Bounty | and |
| 15:47.14 | J-Man_ | kill, fight, what's the difference? ;) |
| 15:47.16 | Bounty | maybe have a little Lore Box |
| 15:47.19 | Bounty | at the start |
| 15:47.23 | Bounty | explaining whats going on |
| 15:47.43 | J-Man_ | just don't overwhelm players at the start of the game |
| 15:47.54 | Bounty | not much to be overhwelmed by |
| 15:47.55 | J-Man_ | learning how to play is the most important |
| 15:47.55 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:47.57 | Bounty | its a basic story |
| 15:48.06 | Bounty | if u even consider it a story |
| 15:48.07 | Bounty | which i dont |
| 15:48.16 | Bounty | its just a gimmick to give it purpose really |
| 15:48.24 | J-Man_ | "story" is a loose term |
| 15:48.49 | J-Man_ | i never really care for stories. im a man whose all about gameplay |
| 15:49.03 | J-Man_ | but they still need to be there, just not intrusive |
| 15:49.08 | Bounty | yeah |
| 15:49.19 | Bounty | i think im gonna have a lore box |
| 15:49.22 | Bounty | like in between fights |
| 15:49.23 | J-Man_ | FFVII pissed me off because i'd spend 30 minutes pressing A, just waiting to play the freakin' game |
| 15:49.26 | Bounty | that u can read |
| 15:49.37 | Bounty | u dont have to read them |
| 15:49.42 | Bounty | u can just click the progress button |
| 15:49.46 | Bounty | to go to the next fight |
| 15:49.54 | Bounty | but it'll be there |
| 15:50.07 | J-Man_ | just saying, if there's any elements of gameplay that might be confusing to new players, make sure those get covered first |
| 15:50.16 | Bounty | oh i know |
| 15:50.26 | Bounty | im just gonna have a box that says |
| 15:50.28 | Bounty | HOW TO PLAY |
| 15:50.31 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:50.40 | Arthas- | help me decide |
| 15:50.51 | J-Man_ | zerg hunter RPG for example jsut overwhelms new players with stuff to read, watch, and click |
| 15:50.53 | Arthas- | is http://www.blocket.se/vasterbotten/Supernintendo_neonskylt_30283070.htm?ca=1_11&w=3&last=1 worth 35 usd? |
| 15:51.25 | Arthas- | length 92 cm, height 29, depth 15.... perfect fpr mounting on ma wall above the tv! |
| 15:51.51 | Bounty | how big is ur tv |
| 15:51.57 | Arthas- | 46" |
| 15:52.02 | Arthas- | so larger than the sign |
| 15:52.23 | Bounty | i dont know about pricing on something like that |
| 15:52.29 | Arthas- | Bounty same |
| 15:52.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster Helral (Helral@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 15:52.29 | J-Man_ | i'd say that's worth $35 |
| 15:52.29 | Bounty | not sure how much those signs cost to make |
| 15:52.30 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:52.37 | nicoli_s | id buy one |
| 15:52.45 | Arthas- | nicoli_s im very tempted |
| 15:52.52 | Arthas- | its a rarely seen piece these days |
| 15:52.53 | J-Man_ | put it in perspective of other things you'd spend $35 on |
| 15:52.59 | Arthas- | oh |
| 15:53.00 | Arthas- | crap |
| 15:53.02 | Arthas- | i meant 350 usd |
| 15:53.03 | Arthas- | not 36 |
| 15:53.04 | Arthas- | 35 |
| 15:53.05 | Arthas- | :p |
| 15:53.05 | J-Man_ | oh |
| 15:53.11 | Bounty | wait what |
| 15:53.12 | J-Man_ | that's a bit more dramatic |
| 15:53.16 | Bounty | 3 |
| 15:53.17 | Bounty | 5 |
| 15:53.19 | Bounty | and a 0? |
| 15:53.22 | Bounty | after that 5? |
| 15:53.25 | Bounty | fuck no |
| 15:53.27 | Bounty | FUCK |
| 15:53.28 | Bounty | NO |
| 15:53.28 | J-Man_ | i'm not sure it's worth that |
| 15:53.29 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:53.29 | Arthas- | a perfect copy of secret of mana is way more expensive |
| 15:53.38 | Arthas- | no collectors in here at all? =p |
| 15:53.40 | Bounty | well u know what |
| 15:53.45 | Bounty | They can keep that Mana a secret |
| 15:53.48 | Bounty | And ill keep my money |
| 15:53.57 | Bounty | Money > Mana |
| 15:54.02 | Bounty | >< |
| 15:54.05 | J-Man_ | a boxed copy of chrono trigger isn't worth that much |
| 15:54.28 | J-Man_ | if you have the money to spend with no regrets, sure. otherwise, no |
| 15:54.36 | J-Man_ | there's a lot of stuff that $350 can buy |
| 15:54.39 | nicoli_s | i still have a boxed copy of FF6 |
| 15:54.42 | nicoli_s | for the snes |
| 15:54.53 | J-Man_ | i just bought 2x 1.5T hard drives for half that |
| 15:54.54 | Arthas- | factory sealed? |
| 15:54.55 | Bounty | is that even worth nething? |
| 15:55.02 | Bounty | everyone had ff6 |
| 15:55.03 | nicoli_s | nope |
| 15:55.04 | Helral | I still have a boxed copy of .... |
| 15:55.08 | Arthas- | Bounty doesnt matter |
| 15:55.09 | Helral | ...... nothing actually ;p |
| 15:55.10 | nicoli_s | and i dunno if its worth anything |
| 15:55.13 | Arthas- | a factory sealed copy of it |
| 15:55.13 | Helral | I'm not a collector ;p |
| 15:55.15 | J-Man_ | boxed copy is worth maybe $60 |
| 15:55.21 | Arthas- | or a package in damn fine quality will sell expensive |
| 15:55.34 | Bounty | why |
| 15:55.37 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:55.38 | Bounty | thats silly |
| 15:55.48 | Helral | meows |
| 15:55.56 | J-Man_ | because it's rare |
| 15:55.58 | Arthas- | http://srx.main.ebayrtm.com/clk?RtmClk&u=1H4sIAAAAAAAAAEWQQWuDMACF74L%2FQRg9RhM1MQoepLNWcBU1diCDYlVs6FxE40b%2F%2FVJ22OXxvcd7l%2FfCbptxEt8GogakAcaBS423ihk2RFDXli28STl%2FBJbVjdwcru3D7MRksWMM9nmWV1WUAQoOec7AEZQgSZO4BFGWxidwSJO6jEHFIlbHoIzK%2BPIOi4LLYWpsCjHBHiI%2Bcoqia%2BUwiuXRUOI7WPmpb858%2BElVtSgucrmvvG9mjHzPnLy%2FZG6XaW3az1HsnNfsnO5swuWmuN4%2FWcgvxUjR%2FF%2BYV4XE0bVWhEgp70NP165KXdunVNe4SjB |
| 15:55.58 | Arthas- | 0beJh2yPUgch1ESTqh%2Ftz8AtoYFiYLQEAAA%3D%3D&ch=3&g=3621b2ff12c0a02653015971ffd6949e&i=-9999&aii=5042675276830144106&lid=742988&m=167795&pi=5197 |
| 15:56.03 | Helral | lol |
| 15:56.05 | J-Man_ | no one keeps a game sealed in the box |
| 15:56.05 | Arthas- | My last viewed item on ebay! |
| 15:56.06 | Bounty | fail |
| 15:56.13 | Bounty | thats one hell of a link |
| 15:56.15 | Arthas- | J-Man_ I have ff7, ff8 and ff9 sealed |
| 15:56.19 | Arthas- | although its platinum editions |
| 15:56.25 | Helral | gz Arthas on the link fail ;p |
| 15:56.32 | Arthas- | Helral not really a fail :p |
| 15:56.34 | J-Man_ | yeah, platinum edition sucks |
| 15:56.37 | Arthas- | i confirmed by hitting enter |
| 15:56.42 | Arthas- | J-Man_ yup |
| 15:56.44 | J-Man_ | everyone wants the original FF7 print |
| 15:56.49 | Arthas- | and nor of the games are especially rare |
| 15:56.55 | J-Man_ | again, because its rare |
| 15:56.56 | Helral | Arthas-: 4SjB[16:55] <Arthas-> 0beJh |
| 15:57.03 | Arthas- | oh |
| 15:57.04 | Helral | weird link content there ;p |
| 15:57.23 | Helral | was too big a link ;p |
| 15:57.24 | Arthas- | http://tinyurl.com/2fualgv |
| 15:57.26 | Arthas- | that works for ya? |
| 15:57.28 | BorgDragon | stretches and yawns |
| 15:57.30 | BorgDragon | gmornin |
| 15:57.33 | Arthas- | Im getting one of those though |
| 15:57.36 | Arthas- | once I gets money |
| 15:57.36 | Bounty | Video games being treated like GI Joes from the 60's makes me giggle |
| 15:57.39 | Arthas- | And a queen! |
| 15:57.39 | Helral | not gonna check it but yeah that would work better. |
| 15:57.40 | Bounty | Its just funny to me |
| 15:57.54 | Bounty | Just doesnt make sense |
| 15:57.56 | Arthas- | helral you need to start live a little whilst at work |
| 15:58.00 | Bounty | They are video games |
| 15:58.05 | Bounty | why would you care about the box |
| 15:58.06 | J-Man_ | i still have a copy of chronotrigger, but its opened |
| 15:58.10 | Helral | I'm not at work anymore mate |
| 15:58.15 | J-Man_ | because it's rare |
| 15:58.18 | Bounty | who collects video games? |
| 15:58.24 | Bounty | you know how you collect video games? |
| 15:58.25 | Bounty | play it |
| 15:58.29 | Bounty | and its in your mind forever |
| 15:58.32 | Bounty | your mind collection |
| 15:58.35 | J-Man_ | yeah |
| 15:58.37 | Helral | went home 15 mins early because of the annoying stuff. was so annoyed :S |
| 15:58.38 | J-Man_ | i'm with you |
| 15:58.46 | J-Man_ | collecting games to not play them is foolish |
| 15:58.49 | J-Man_ | same with toys |
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| 15:58.59 | Arthas- | http://cgi.ebay.com/1995-SNES-Chrono-Trigger-Factory-Sealed-VGA-90-/220690115127?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item336227ea37 |
| 15:58.59 | Bounty | yeah |
| 15:59.01 | Arthas- | Bounty |
| 15:59.02 | J-Man_ | at least you can look at a toy tho |
| 15:59.04 | Arthas- | click and wheep |
| 15:59.05 | A1win | is it possible to center text in a text style? |
| 15:59.08 | Bounty | everytime i see an unopened toy for collectors |
| 15:59.08 | J-Man_ | the game is just a disc or cart |
| 15:59.20 | BorgDragon | no alwin |
| 15:59.22 | Arthas- | helral then click the links |
| 15:59.24 | Arthas- | they are all safe |
| 15:59.33 | Bounty | so what arthas? |
| 15:59.37 | BorgDragon | do you mean like, center the text in a bar or something? |
| 15:59.39 | Bounty | who the fuck is going to pay 7,500 |
| 15:59.39 | Helral | they might be but I don't want to be infected by your links ;p |
| 15:59.43 | Bounty | for a game i could DL right now |
| 15:59.44 | BorgDragon | thats what you mean? if so, no. |
| 15:59.45 | Bounty | on a rom |
| 15:59.47 | A1win | BorgDragon, in a dialog item |
| 15:59.50 | J-Man_ | in theory, you are keeping an unopened copy so that someone down the line can open it new |
| 15:59.53 | A1win | oh yeah |
| 15:59.58 | BorgDragon | A1win, I believe not |
| 15:59.58 | A1win | the style doesn't know where it's in :P |
| 15:59.59 | Arthas- | Bounty you could |
| 16:00.02 | Arthas- | but you aint a collector :p |
| 16:00.07 | J-Man_ | but the unopened copy gains so much value, no one wants to open it |
| 16:00.10 | Arthas- | I've already realised that :> |
| 16:00.16 | J-Man_ | when really, it has no value unless it's opened |
| 16:00.23 | BorgDragon | A1win, place spaces infront of the text |
| 16:00.26 | BorgDragon | to "center" it |
| 16:00.29 | Arthas- | thats why you buy one unopened and one openeed! |
| 16:00.32 | A1win | BorgDragon, yeah did that already |
| 16:00.33 | BorgDragon | but this could be annoying just to get it perfect :P |
| 16:00.38 | A1win | just wondered if there was an easier way :P |
| 16:00.40 | Bounty | i am a collecter in a sort of way Arthas |
| 16:00.43 | Bounty | i would rather buy games |
| 16:00.45 | Bounty | then download them |
| 16:00.47 | J-Man_ | there's are styles which are centered |
| 16:00.52 | Bounty | bc i do like to own alot of games |
| 16:00.55 | Bounty | but |
| 16:00.56 | Helral | J-Man_: some people buy 2 versions of stuff to have 1 unopened ;p |
| 16:00.57 | A1win | J-Man_, yeah but it doesn't seem to work |
| 16:01.00 | Bounty | i dont care what packaging they came in |
| 16:01.12 | Bounty | well actually |
| 16:01.12 | J-Man_ | i got it to work |
| 16:01.15 | Bounty | i take that back |
| 16:01.18 | A1win | mmh :S |
| 16:01.18 | J-Man_ | what are you using the text on? |
| 16:01.23 | Bounty | if i go to gamestop and buy a used copy of a game |
| 16:01.24 | A1win | it's a dialog item |
| 16:01.28 | Bounty | and the box is pissed and shit on |
| 16:01.29 | Bounty | i wont buy it |
| 16:01.33 | Arthas- | See! |
| 16:01.39 | BorgDragon | lol Bounty |
| 16:01.39 | J-Man_ | i definitely got centered text working on a dialog item |
| 16:01.39 | Bounty | but tahts only 30 bucks |
| 16:01.50 | J-Man_ | are you using color and style? |
| 16:01.51 | Bounty | you're talking about 7,500 bucks |
| 16:01.53 | Arthas- | Now, if I buy a sealed copy, I can break the seal and be sure no one jizzed on it! |
| 16:02.02 | Bounty | yeah buyt |
| 16:02.04 | Aussie123 | its 3am and my neighbours car alarm just went off |
| 16:02.05 | Bounty | like i just said |
| 16:02.08 | Bounty | im talking about 60 dollars |
| 16:02.12 | Aussie123 | is ther sum1 like robbing them |
| 16:02.13 | Bounty | your talking about 7,500 |
| 16:02.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:02.30 | Arthas- | 60, 7500, whats the difference? :D |
| 16:02.31 | Aussie123 | or do car alarms randomly go off |
| 16:02.36 | BorgDragon | I remember |
| 16:02.44 | Arthas- | well, about 7440 usd but still |
| 16:02.45 | J-Man_ | $7,500 is way too much for something that drops in value 20,000% the second it's opened |
| 16:02.47 | BorgDragon | when the very first Harlequin Crest on D2 Hardcore |
| 16:02.50 | BorgDragon | was sold on EBay... |
| 16:02.58 | BorgDragon | for close to 2000 |
| 16:03.05 | Arthas- | Yup :D |
| 16:03.11 | J-Man_ | especially when it's entirely useless unopened |
| 16:03.15 | Bounty | honestly |
| 16:03.24 | Bounty | something like that choro trigger game u linked |
| 16:03.27 | Bounty | would only cause evil |
| 16:03.35 | Bounty | what if someones kid fucked it up |
| 16:03.59 | Bounty | that kid would be in a fucking toilet face down and pantsless |
| 16:04.01 | BorgDragon | it would be time for that family to move out of state :P |
| 16:04.14 | Bounty | i doubt they would have time |
| 16:04.17 | Bounty | whoever owned it |
| 16:04.19 | J-Man_ | the save battery's probably dead anyways |
| 16:04.20 | Bounty | would move like the flash |
| 16:04.23 | Bounty | to murder that kid |
| 16:04.25 | Arthas- | face down? |
| 16:04.29 | Arthas- | they would be dead |
| 16:04.29 | Bounty | yeah |
| 16:04.31 | Arthas- | totally worth it |
| 16:04.32 | Bounty | drowned him |
| 16:04.36 | Bounty | idk |
| 16:04.40 | Bounty | exactly |
| 16:04.44 | Bounty | thats all collecting does |
| 16:04.49 | Bounty | it causes you paranoia |
| 16:04.54 | Bounty | OGM DONT TOUCH THAT! |
| 16:04.58 | Bounty | thats all i see from it |
| 16:05.00 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:05.02 | Arthas- | now, did you see the first link? the alien one |
| 16:05.03 | J-Man_ | chronotrigger was a great game... but $7,500?!?!?! |
| 16:05.07 | J-Man_ | you gotta be shitting me |
| 16:05.15 | Arthas- | tinyurl one even |
| 16:05.19 | Bounty | Jman |
| 16:05.25 | Bounty | did u notice the amount of bids on that link? |
| 16:05.26 | Bounty | zero |
| 16:05.30 | Bounty | and tahts all he will get |
| 16:05.30 | J-Man_ | fair enough |
| 16:05.34 | Bounty | hes better off going to gamestop |
| 16:05.37 | Bounty | with taht game |
| 16:05.37 | Arthas- | seen em get sold :p |
| 16:05.39 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:05.40 | BorgDragon | umm..hmmm... |
| 16:05.44 | Arthas- | if that makes you lose hope :D |
| 16:05.56 | J-Man_ | gamestop won't take sealed games |
| 16:06.01 | BorgDragon | it's not possible to play animations backwards through the actor, is it? |
| 16:06.04 | BorgDragon | lol I doubt... |
| 16:06.11 | J-Man_ | i tried once because i bought something online and didn't need it |
| 16:06.29 | J-Man_ | once they know it's sealed, they can't even buy it if you open it |
| 16:06.31 | BorgDragon | did you just open it infront of them? |
| 16:06.34 | BorgDragon | oh |
| 16:06.35 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 16:06.36 | Bounty | how DO u play animations backwards? |
| 16:06.44 | J-Man_ | i had to go to another gamestop |
| 16:06.47 | BorgDragon | I don't think it's possible Bounty |
| 16:06.50 | J-Man_ | now that was just with a $20 game |
| 16:06.52 | Bounty | it is |
| 16:06.54 | Bounty | there was a video |
| 16:06.56 | BorgDragon | oh? |
| 16:06.57 | Bounty | of someone doing it |
| 16:07.08 | J-Man_ | obvioulsy you wouldn't open chronotrigger because gamestop won't buy it sealed |
| 16:07.09 | BorgDragon | link handy, by chance? |
| 16:07.16 | Bounty | i wish |
| 16:07.18 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:07.27 | Bounty | but i remember seeing it on mapster front page |
| 16:07.34 | J-Man_ | last i knew (it was a few years ago), sealed chronotrigger was only worth somewhere in the 90-150 range |
| 16:08.03 | J-Man_ | i can't see it being worth more, since it was reprinted on PSX |
| 16:08.10 | J-Man_ | and GBA |
| 16:08.44 | Arthas- | and since they are on the internet in forms of roms, they become worthless? :| |
| 16:08.55 | Arthas- | a reprint aint the original :p |
| 16:09.03 | J-Man_ | nope, sure ain't |
| 16:09.12 | J-Man_ | but what value does the original really have? |
| 16:09.14 | J-Man_ | you can't open it |
| 16:09.23 | J-Man_ | you can only look at it |
| 16:09.23 | BorgDragon | aaah, digging through the news archives is gonna suuuuuuuuuuck |
| 16:09.26 | J-Man_ | and tell people you have it |
| 16:09.32 | J-Man_ | that has *some* value |
| 16:09.40 | J-Man_ | even $150 is a stretch tho |
| 16:10.03 | Aussie123 | my god my neighbours car alarm has gone off 3 times in the last 10-15 mins |
| 16:10.13 | Aussie123 | at 3am |
| 16:10.16 | Arthas- | Throw a stone at it |
| 16:10.31 | Arthas- | to kill the alarm, not to make it go off again |
| 16:10.48 | Aussie123 | then they will think i did it :p |
| 16:10.52 | Arthas- | :p |
| 16:10.55 | Arthas- | you have kids? |
| 16:10.58 | J-Man_ | the only other point of value is that it may (probably won't) gain value over time, and some other schumck might buy it from you so that he can not open it |
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| 16:11.00 | Aussie123 | no im 18 :p |
| 16:11.04 | Arthas- | crap |
| 16:11.07 | Arthas- | hmm |
| 16:11.07 | Dryeyece | Hey everyone |
| 16:11.09 | Arthas- | gf? :D |
| 16:11.19 | Arthas- | make bet, then blame! |
| 16:11.23 | J-Man_ | omg |
| 16:11.26 | Dryeyece | Check it out! http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4681/characterselectionscree.jpg , my new character selection screen (in progress) |
| 16:11.27 | Aussie123 | no i live with my parents lol as long as i can |
| 16:11.32 | Aussie123 | well not too long |
| 16:11.35 | J-Man_ | i left my game running, now i'm surrounded by like 200 zealots |
| 16:11.45 | J-Man_ | the whole screen is zealots |
| 16:11.48 | Arthas- | Dryeyece buce |
| 16:11.51 | Arthas- | nice* |
| 16:12.00 | Arthas- | I would appreciate numbers on life, shields etc though |
| 16:12.02 | Dryeyece | 12 hours |
| 16:12.05 | Arthas- | perhaps when you hover the bars |
| 16:12.09 | BorgDragon | supDryeyece |
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| 16:12.19 | J-Man_ | no, i'd leave my bars on all the time |
| 16:12.21 | Arthas- | Aussie123 ^^ |
| 16:12.31 | J-Man_ | i want to know how far along my fast food is |
| 16:12.32 | Dryeyece | no sleep, but all the ability images have tooltips accordinly and the desription finsihes in a tooltip and the status bars have tooltips also |
| 16:12.54 | Eiviyn | http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/848/screenshot2010111815564.jpg photoshop 1, Eiviyn 0 |
| 16:13.00 | BorgDragon | cool, nice work Dryeyece |
| 16:13.16 | Arthas- | Eiviyn :D |
| 16:13.21 | BorgDragon | lol Eiviyn |
| 16:13.22 | Dryeyece | nice image |
| 16:13.23 | Arthas- | Really nice choice of font though |
| 16:13.23 | J-Man_ | so you walk over next to the burger king buiilding, click double cheeseburger on the command card, and watch it in the queue :) |
| 16:13.29 | Arthas- | Whats the name of it |
| 16:13.35 | BorgDragon | Catalyst |
| 16:13.36 | Arthas- | oh nvm |
| 16:13.47 | Helral | meow |
| 16:13.51 | Helral | meows |
| 16:13.54 | BorgDragon | backs away slowly |
| 16:13.55 | Eiviyn | fffffff how transparency :((( |
| 16:14.00 | Arthas- | helral why do ppl keep avoiding my links ? |
| 16:14.05 | Dryeyece | The Cantine: Drunken Bounty Hunter RPG |
| 16:14.12 | Dryeyece | Cantina* |
| 16:14.16 | Helral | hmmm because they know you? |
| 16:14.21 | Arthas- | I dont think ive posted that weird stuff in here |
| 16:14.27 | BorgDragon | hey Dry, I went to play it last night, Cantina |
| 16:14.33 | BorgDragon | but bnet was being a bitch and lagging |
| 16:14.36 | BorgDragon | I was the only one in game |
| 16:14.44 | BorgDragon | and I was getting the timing out screen lol |
| 16:14.50 | BorgDragon | so I didn't get to play too much of it |
| 16:14.55 | BorgDragon | Midnight Blue gogo~ |
| 16:16.10 | Aussie123 | there it goes again |
| 16:16.19 | Aussie123 | wouldn't they go out and check it by now |
| 16:16.52 | J-Man_ | dammit, it thinks i'm in a hostile region when i'm not |
| 16:16.58 | J-Man_ | all my team stuff got messed up |
| 16:17.12 | Arthas- | I mean Helral weirdest I posted was links to sankaku complex ffs :p |
| 16:17.22 | Arthas- | You will click my links! |
| 16:18.30 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/pte/pte00001.jpg http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/pte/pte00002.jpg http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/pte/pte00003.jpg http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/pte/pte00004.jpg |
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| 16:21.31 | J-Man_ | i really like the UI elements |
| 16:22.15 | Helral | is immune to Arthas- mind tricks. |
| 16:22.22 | Arthas- | http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/04/21/woman-gets-life-sentence-for-forcing-boy-to-touch-breasts/ :D |
| 16:22.29 | Arthas- | site is nsfw :p |
| 16:22.34 | A1win | spent waay too much time with the UI :P |
| 16:22.51 | nicoli_s | usually add nfsw to the same line arthas :P |
| 16:23.02 | Arthas- | nicoli_s oh, right :D |
| 16:23.15 | Arthas- | "The defence notes that she is getting a greater penalty for having a boy touch her breast than if she killed him." |
| 16:24.51 | Helral | nsfw nfsw que? |
| 16:25.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster DarkRevenant (~DarkReven@130.191.159.5) |
| 16:25.12 | DarkRevenant | im fucked |
| 16:25.16 | Aussie123 | "The boy is said to be undergoing therapy after this ordeal." why would he need therapy :p |
| 16:25.19 | DarkRevenant | aka going to emergency room |
| 16:25.27 | Arthas- | Aussie123 I DONT KNOW |
| 16:25.27 | Aussie123 | he must be gay |
| 16:25.31 | Helral | lol |
| 16:25.36 | Arthas- | I came to the exactly same conclusion! |
| 16:25.36 | J-Man_ | she could be ugly |
| 16:25.49 | Dekar | [17:23:14] <Arthas-> "The defence notes that she is getting a greater penalty for having a boy touch her breast than if she killed him." <-- thats the USA for you |
| 16:25.51 | DarkRevenant | i missed |
| 16:25.54 | DarkRevenant | the rest of the story |
| 16:25.56 | DarkRevenant | link? |
| 16:26.09 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.20 | Arthas- | Also, that site is friggin awesome |
| 16:26.25 | Arthas- | One canread for hours ;p |
| 16:26.47 | J-Man_ | why would i name a variable "Picked Player"... that's just irresponsible! |
| 16:26.51 | Arthas- | neko cosplay ^^ |
| 16:27.13 | Helral | meows? |
| 16:27.27 | Dekar | wtf page |
| 16:27.28 | Arthas- | no neko cosplay links for you ! |
| 16:27.49 | Helral | searches for laser pens. |
| 16:28.15 | DarkRevenant | well |
| 16:28.17 | DarkRevenant | for this story |
| 16:28.21 | HP-X|Arthas | wtf |
| 16:28.25 | DarkRevenant | there will be an appeal |
| 16:28.28 | DarkRevenant | without a doubt |
| 16:28.32 | HP-X|Arthas | Helral killed my client again |
| 16:29.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster BorgDragon (~BorgDrago@24.138.168.211) |
| 16:29.25 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 16:29.30 | Helral | meows victoriously |
| 16:29.32 | BorgDragon | she should a just killed him |
| 16:29.35 | BorgDragon | then |
| 16:29.45 | HP-X|Arthas | ay! |
| 16:29.56 | BorgDragon | oh nevermind |
| 16:30.01 | BorgDragon | I thought it was the other way around |
| 16:30.12 | BorgDragon | i read the news title wrong |
| 16:30.28 | J-Man_ | nevermind how creepy it is to do something like that to a kid that young |
| 16:30.32 | BorgDragon | what 13 year old boy |
| 16:30.39 | BorgDragon | would require therapy after touching breasts |
| 16:30.42 | J-Man_ | i'm not saying her punishment fits the crime |
| 16:30.51 | BorgDragon | eeh, I know it's wrong |
| 16:30.55 | J-Man_ | but... her crime is just plain creepy |
| 16:31.02 | BorgDragon | but do you honestly think a 13 year old boy is not going to like that? lol |
| 16:31.14 | J-Man_ | depends |
| 16:31.17 | BorgDragon | life sentence... sheesh |
| 16:31.21 | J-Man_ | he might not have been attracted to her |
| 16:31.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster Arthas--- (~dasd@ip3-100.bon.riksnet.se) |
| 16:31.23 | Arthas--- | Perhaps not if she's fat? |
| 16:31.32 | J-Man_ | or ugly |
| 16:31.43 | J-Man_ | or a person of authority that he doesn't think of like that |
| 16:31.56 | J-Man_ | there's a number of situations |
| 16:32.04 | BorgDragon | there is only 1 situation... |
| 16:32.06 | BorgDragon | BOOBIES!? |
| 16:32.09 | BorgDragon | that is the situation lol |
| 16:32.20 | Arthas- | "Samurai Girls Tentacle Bukkake Anime" |
| 16:32.37 | J-Man_ | he could also be gay |
| 16:32.47 | BorgDragon | hm, i guess he could |
| 16:32.48 | Arthas- | That's the first thing we thought :D |
| 16:32.54 | Deaod | very slim chance |
| 16:33.14 | BorgDragon | i give up, I'm no longer looking for that video on Mapster News Archives :\ |
| 16:33.15 | J-Man_ | yeah, cuz no one's ever gay, right? |
| 16:33.32 | Deaod | slim chance!=no chance |
| 16:33.33 | A1win | any ideas how to better highlight my bunkers without using the halo effect? it's a bit buggy and doesn't even show if post processing is on low setting |
| 16:33.52 | Deaod | but youre usually not that aware of your own preferences at that age |
| 16:34.01 | BorgDragon | attach something to the bunker! |
| 16:34.10 | J-Man_ | anyways, she's a woman who obviously can't get attention from men her own age... |
| 16:34.21 | J-Man_ | so there's a good chance she's fat and/or ugly |
| 16:34.23 | A1win | I'm highlighting empty bunkers because players can claim control of them |
| 16:34.27 | BorgDragon | naw, she's a pedo, plain and simple |
| 16:34.29 | J-Man_ | and he might not have been interested at all |
| 16:35.08 | J-Man_ | a lot of pedophiles have difficulty with the dating game, and feel estranged by it |
| 16:35.31 | J-Man_ | they search for companionship outside of the system that shuns them |
| 16:35.42 | J-Man_ | from kids who don't know better yet |
| 16:36.13 | Arthas- | http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/11/07/top-10-things-youd-rather-not-tell-your-boyfriend/ |
| 16:36.14 | Arthas- | :D |
| 16:36.19 | Arthas- | I love #4 |
| 16:36.21 | J-Man_ | i'm just saying, it's not as cut-and-dry as "he's 13, of course he wants to touch boobs" |
| 16:36.27 | Arthas- | Well |
| 16:36.30 | Arthas- | He IS 13 |
| 16:36.34 | Arthas- | OFC HE WANTS TO TOUCH EM |
| 16:36.46 | J-Man_ | thanks for the NSFW warning |
| 16:37.04 | Arthas- | yw! |
| 16:37.22 | Dekar | little boys are more traumatized by their grandmas kissing them |
| 16:37.31 | J-Man_ | of course i should be working, but... |
| 16:38.30 | J-Man_ | i don't wanana |
| 16:38.48 | J-Man_ | wanananananaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 16:39.14 | Aussie123 | oh my god there goes the alarm once again |
| 16:39.23 | Aussie123 | probably a cat jumping on their car |
| 16:39.29 | Arthas- | hahaha |
| 16:39.49 | Arthas- | "Some users are concerned about Kinect sneakily taking pictures of them dancing naked." |
| 16:39.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster Falsus (Tigers@c-f17ae055.1219-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 16:40.08 | BorgDragon | LOLOLOL |
| 16:40.17 | Arthas- | http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/11/07/help-kinect-took-pictures-of-me-dancing-naked/ 4NSFW |
| 16:40.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster BDmon (~BD@s5591ba26.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 16:40.39 | BDmon | hi |
| 16:40.40 | Aussie123 | oh my god i can see the same thing that happened with the iphone |
| 16:40.57 | Aussie123 | but people dancing |
| 16:41.04 | Arthas- | http://www.dancecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?118-How-Do-I-DELETE-the-Picutres-Taken-During-Dance Oh here is the source |
| 16:41.06 | Arthas- | its sfw |
| 16:42.01 | J-Man_ | hilarous |
| 16:42.07 | BDmon | haha |
| 16:42.16 | BDmon | that is funny |
| 16:42.33 | Arthas- | #7, what a kind helpful helper |
| 16:42.38 | BDmon | Actually, DC automatically sends the pictures to a online server where the photos can be viewed by the registered harmonix community. |
| 16:42.39 | BDmon | :P |
| 16:42.43 | Arthas- | yeah :D |
| 16:42.53 | Arthas- | If you send them to me, I can find which ones they are by the file name and delete them from the database servers. I work at Harmonics, so you'll be fine. |
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| 16:44.55 | BorgDragon | hi Jum Jum |
| 16:44.57 | BorgDragon | man, i'm so sad |
| 16:45.01 | BorgDragon | I hope they don't cancel the WDE, on the account that only 2 ppl participated lol |
| 16:45.13 | BDmon | haha |
| 16:45.53 | Thorsell | :P |
| 16:45.57 | BorgDragon | seriously |
| 16:46.09 | BorgDragon | I liked the WTE, but Terraining is not my specialty |
| 16:46.26 | BorgDragon | WDE is more like it... but cmon! entries damnit entires! |
| 16:46.53 | Thorsell | What are you supposed to submit? |
| 16:46.53 | BorgDragon | it's been 7 days, and only 3 ppl post in it, except one guy who says "he had no time, but in the future I will" lol |
| 16:47.04 | BorgDragon | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/14750-weekly-data-exercise-1-sticky-bombs/ |
| 16:47.06 | Arthas- | http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/10/31/i-invested-60000-in-a-maid-any-questions/ NSFW |
| 16:47.08 | BorgDragon | thats the thread |
| 16:47.25 | BorgDragon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvgGA1nHL7g that is my entry |
| 16:53.18 | BDmon | cool but really dno how to get that working |
| 16:53.29 | BDmon | im interested to try though |
| 16:53.32 | J-Man_ | weekly data exercise? |
| 16:53.34 | BDmon | ye |
| 16:53.46 | BDmon | just wanted to start at 3ds max but can do this first :] |
| 16:53.51 | J-Man_ | cool idea |
| 16:54.46 | BorgDragon | the deadline is today |
| 16:54.50 | BorgDragon | for the first one :P |
| 16:54.55 | BDmon | how many hours |
| 16:54.58 | BorgDragon | no idea |
| 16:55.03 | BorgDragon | whenever he gets on I guess |
| 16:55.13 | BDmon | well lets see what i run into :] |
| 16:55.24 | BorgDragon | in all honesty, he should have psoted already I would think |
| 16:55.40 | BDmon | i dont mind interesting to try anyways |
| 16:56.05 | BDmon | so it has to be a grenade but can be fired from a gun right |
| 16:56.33 | Aussie123 | lol there goes the alarm again |
| 16:56.53 | Aussie123 | i think their car is broken |
| 16:57.31 | Helral | or someone is trying to make them turn off the alarm permanently. |
| 16:57.32 | BorgDragon | ya |
| 16:57.37 | Aussie123 | might even be my parents car LOL our cars are practicly next to their car |
| 16:57.44 | BorgDragon | BDmon, specifically, from a Marauder |
| 16:57.59 | Aussie123 | dont think an old ute has a car alarm tho |
| 16:58.01 | BorgDragon | it must attach to Mechanical only, but can kill bio on the explosion |
| 16:58.03 | BDmon | lol Time taken: 1hr |
| 16:58.19 | BorgDragon | 1hr x 8 |
| 16:58.44 | BDmon | well that ftbhrygvn says that |
| 16:59.05 | BDmon | anyway lets see |
| 17:01.46 | A1win | that bomb doesn't make much sense though D: why can't you just shoot it on the ground if you want to kill bio units :P |
| 17:02.16 | BorgDragon | its an Exercise |
| 17:02.23 | BorgDragon | to learn the editor |
| 17:02.28 | BorgDragon | the explosion can kill bio |
| 17:02.35 | BorgDragon | but the grenade must attach to mechanical units |
| 17:02.36 | BDmon | well |
| 17:02.49 | A1win | I know ;p |
| 17:02.54 | A1win | just saying |
| 17:02.55 | BDmon | i dno much about de and not really a good idea how to set all this up |
| 17:03.00 | BorgDragon | then why doesn't it make sense? |
| 17:03.14 | BDmon | so this is not learning me the de :P |
| 17:03.23 | BorgDragon | start experimenting :P |
| 17:03.29 | BDmon | but i see after all entries u can check how others do it |
| 17:03.32 | BDmon | that is learning |
| 17:03.42 | A1win | the excercise makes sense so you learn to use DE better but the ability itself doesn't :P |
| 17:03.53 | BorgDragon | how does the ability not make sense? |
| 17:03.59 | BorgDragon | Sticks to mechanical |
| 17:04.02 | A1win | because you should also be able to shoot it on the ground |
| 17:04.03 | BorgDragon | but can damage anything |
| 17:04.21 | A1win | so if there are no mechanical units around, you could still use it |
| 17:04.24 | A1win | since it can damage others as well |
| 17:04.27 | BorgDragon | Then why don't you just go use Reaper's Cluster Bombs |
| 17:04.33 | BorgDragon | well why can't the ghost snipe a tank? |
| 17:04.41 | BorgDragon | I'm sure he's using a 50cal sniper |
| 17:04.50 | BorgDragon | it doesn't make sense |
| 17:04.56 | A1win | makes more sense than this :P |
| 17:05.04 | BorgDragon | no it doesn't |
| 17:05.25 | BorgDragon | who cares if you think it does or doesn't make sense. |
| 17:05.29 | A1win | tanks have tougher armor than bio units |
| 17:05.33 | BorgDragon | just do what it tells you to |
| 17:05.39 | BorgDragon | EXACTLY |
| 17:05.46 | BorgDragon | so why waste a sticky on bio |
| 17:05.50 | BorgDragon | if it's meant to kill tanks? |
| 17:05.58 | A1win | if you have nothing better to use :e |
| 17:06.09 | BorgDragon | This conversation, IS OVER! |
| 17:06.13 | A1win | :P |
| 17:06.13 | Thorsell | lol |
| 17:06.13 | BorgDragon | lol :P |
| 17:07.01 | A1win | that made me want to make a similar weapon to the TF2 sticky grenades for my reaper platformer map |
| 17:07.11 | A1win | so you can detonate them by pressing a button |
| 17:07.54 | J-Man_ | so i'm going to try and start a community documenation project |
| 17:08.13 | J-Man_ | to build comprehensive documentation for the editor |
| 17:08.35 | BDmon | well there's alot of basic info in the wiki |
| 17:08.37 | BDmon | but i like the idea |
| 17:08.43 | J-Man_ | i encourage everyone to support this in any way that they can |
| 17:08.45 | J-Man_ | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/14990-community-documentation-project/ |
| 17:08.52 | J-Man_ | there is, but we need more |
| 17:09.11 | J-Man_ | i'm talking field-by-field, trigger-by-trigger, in-depth documenation |
| 17:09.36 | J-Man_ | you know, the stuff blizzard should have done |
| 17:09.42 | J-Man_ | especially with the data editor |
| 17:09.45 | BDmon | well definitly peoples tips and tricks |
| 17:10.03 | BDmon | and i still miss an overall flowchart or something |
| 17:10.14 | BDmon | like how everything is connected thats very confusing at times |
| 17:10.16 | J-Man_ | well tips and tricks are great |
| 17:10.28 | J-Man_ | but when you have something from like microsoft |
| 17:10.34 | J-Man_ | there's two parts to the documentation |
| 17:10.41 | J-Man_ | how to and reference |
| 17:10.44 | J-Man_ | we have the how to |
| 17:10.45 | BorgDragon | i +1'd the post |
| 17:10.54 | J-Man_ | i want to add the reference |
| 17:11.00 | Thorsell | that's a great idea |
| 17:11.08 | BDmon | how u do that BorgDragon |
| 17:11.09 | J-Man_ | we have the reference for the triggers, obviously, but i want to add to that |
| 17:11.17 | BorgDragon | i replied with a +1 BDmon :P |
| 17:11.20 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 17:11.21 | BDmon | :D |
| 17:11.23 | J-Man_ | the triggers need more documenation |
| 17:11.33 | BorgDragon | the DE needs ALOT of documentation |
| 17:11.44 | J-Man_ | it needs documenation period. |
| 17:11.45 | BDmon | reply button doesnt work |
| 17:11.45 | Thorsell | I'd like to know how to make simple separate things, most tutorials are focused on making a specific thing or effect or map or whatever |
| 17:11.53 | BorgDragon | especially since usually only a handful of ppl really reply in the Data Section... |
| 17:11.55 | J-Man_ | especially animation events |
| 17:13.00 | Aussie123 | wow there it goes again |
| 17:13.43 | BDmon | Thorsell what are you thinking about? |
| 17:14.02 | BorgDragon | awwww WTF! |
| 17:14.12 | BorgDragon | damn Kimphoe and his avatar |
| 17:14.19 | BorgDragon | I guess Ed Alric gets his arm and leg back... |
| 17:14.23 | nicoli_s | not sure if anyone here plays black ops but....http://beta.codblackopsnews.com/character-builds/create |
| 17:14.26 | BorgDragon | what a fucking spoiler, just ruined FMA for me |
| 17:14.44 | Thorsell | lol |
| 17:15.03 | Thorsell | you HAD to tell the entire thread? |
| 17:15.04 | Thorsell | HUH |
| 17:15.07 | Thorsell | ... |
| 17:15.16 | Thorsell | :P |
| 17:15.24 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 17:16.42 | BorgDragon | never said I was smart |
| 17:18.45 | BDmon | ok not gonna try to figure the WDE out now cos really i need to know more basics to start this from scratch |
| 17:20.17 | Thorsell | Heheh |
| 17:20.36 | BorgDragon | :P |
| 17:20.42 | Thorsell | So... anyone wanna take a look at my little scenery? |
| 17:21.02 | Thorsell | I'm saying LITTLE because I scaled down some stuff to 40% |
| 17:21.07 | Thorsell | :P |
| 17:21.20 | BDmon | wa? |
| 17:21.22 | BDmon | in sc2? |
| 17:21.32 | Thorsell | yeah doodads and stuff |
| 17:21.36 | BDmon | eu? |
| 17:21.42 | Thorsell | I guess |
| 17:21.48 | BDmon | lol |
| 17:21.51 | BDmon | are u in europe? |
| 17:21.58 | Thorsell | Uh, yeah. |
| 17:22.00 | Thorsell | Uuh.. |
| 17:22.02 | BDmon | cool yea :] |
| 17:22.07 | Thorsell | I guess |
| 17:22.18 | BDmon | why guess |
| 17:22.28 | Thorsell | Is it cool? I dunno? |
| 17:22.29 | Thorsell | :P |
| 17:22.43 | BDmon | lol if u were in usa i cant play with you |
| 17:22.53 | Thorsell | right |
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| 17:23.02 | BDmon | but now we can so lemme see :] |
| 17:23.13 | Thorsell | this is just a scenery with a short cinematic |
| 17:23.22 | Thorsell | so no map really |
| 17:23.30 | BDmon | u published it yet? |
| 17:23.34 | BDmon | or u can send it to me |
| 17:23.37 | Thorsell | more like an intro, would fit for a background in a menu |
| 17:23.41 | BDmon | yea sure |
| 17:23.43 | Thorsell | Yeah I can send it |
| 17:23.49 | Thorsell | not gonna publish |
| 17:23.51 | BDmon | cool |
| 17:24.00 | BDmon | u can publish private |
| 17:24.10 | BDmon | and delete so doesnt matter |
| 17:24.31 | Thorsell | well no use with this one, it's just a practice map really |
| 17:25.04 | BDmon | ye cool |
| 17:25.37 | Thorsell | trying to send here |
| 17:25.50 | Thorsell | see it? |
| 17:26.15 | BDmon | oh hold on |
| 17:26.19 | Thorsell | Here on IRC |
| 17:26.35 | Thorsell | i'm on mIRC |
| 17:26.36 | BDmon | ye it got rejected |
| 17:26.42 | Thorsell | hmm |
| 17:26.44 | Thorsell | again? |
| 17:26.48 | BDmon | try again |
| 17:26.55 | Thorsell | there |
| 17:27.07 | BDmon | im accepting |
| 17:27.14 | BDmon | nice |
| 17:27.17 | Thorsell | Yaaay |
| 17:27.18 | BDmon | lets see |
| 17:27.33 | Thorsell | set graphics to ultra P:P |
| 17:27.38 | Thorsell | that's what I have at least |
| 17:27.58 | A1win | :P there's a reason why some people don't |
| 17:28.08 | Thorsell | and preview in fullscreen, you'll get into the atmosphere more |
| 17:28.39 | Thorsell | A1win yeah Ultra in UE at least, not when I play hehe... that'd be bad for FPS |
| 17:28.49 | BorgDragon | ya thats what I do |
| 17:28.55 | BorgDragon | Ultra in the editor, med in game |
| 17:28.56 | A1win | UE? |
| 17:29.03 | Thorsell | oh |
| 17:29.06 | Thorsell | GE |
| 17:29.08 | Thorsell | sorry |
| 17:29.09 | A1win | hehe |
| 17:29.11 | BorgDragon | hehe |
| 17:29.17 | Thorsell | though I use UE too sometimes |
| 17:29.21 | Thorsell | have used |
| 17:29.23 | Thorsell | a little |
| 17:29.26 | Thorsell | almost not at all |
| 17:29.37 | A1win | I keep them on high in GE at least in large maps, makes it easier to view the entire thing :P |
| 17:29.41 | BDmon | ok but its still 2 secs of camera movement right? |
| 17:29.56 | Thorsell | 2 secs? |
| 17:30.05 | BDmon | just moves down to the tree then stops |
| 17:30.13 | Thorsell | really? |
| 17:30.21 | BDmon | ye |
| 17:30.42 | Thorsell | i haven't locked the cameras or anything so maybe u disabled it |
| 17:30.45 | Thorsell | somehow |
| 17:30.54 | Thorsell | try it again |
| 17:31.23 | Thorsell | it should move from blurry jungle to abandoned base close-up |
| 17:31.46 | BDmon | yea now its good |
| 17:31.47 | BDmon | thats weird |
| 17:31.52 | Thorsell | through some branches and stuff |
| 17:32.05 | Thorsell | looks cool eh? |
| 17:32.20 | BDmon | yea man nice |
| 17:32.23 | Thorsell | I'm imagining a menu or something on top of it lol |
| 17:32.27 | Thorsell | all the stuff there |
| 17:32.37 | Thorsell | it's just 40% of original size |
| 17:33.12 | Thorsell | made the trees like 200% size too around the base view to get a dense jungle feel to it |
| 17:33.36 | BDmon | can u make the texture underneath smaller? |
| 17:33.54 | BDmon | because now it looks very small items on a big floor |
| 17:35.02 | Thorsell | yeah I could resize the Terran Tarmac |
| 17:35.12 | Thorsell | maybe add several of those |
| 17:35.25 | BDmon | and the flies are rather big :P |
| 17:35.34 | Thorsell | Jungle flies! |
| 17:35.40 | Thorsell | Or some bugs |
| 17:35.43 | BDmon | huge! :P for that distance |
| 17:35.53 | Thorsell | i've resized the doodad though |
| 17:35.59 | Thorsell | but not too much |
| 17:36.15 | Thorsell | I want them to be huge hahah, makes them scary |
| 17:36.21 | BDmon | hehe |
| 17:36.26 | Thorsell | I would like some creepy music theme too |
| 17:36.29 | BDmon | but u work in the terrain editor with that light? |
| 17:36.33 | BDmon | i dont see shit lol |
| 17:36.48 | BDmon | ye some nice music hmm |
| 17:36.52 | Thorsell | hahah nah, I built most of the stuff with light on |
| 17:36.54 | Thorsell | more light |
| 17:36.57 | BDmon | rambo theme? :P |
| 17:37.01 | Thorsell | hahaha no |
| 17:37.07 | Thorsell | I want a creepy theme |
| 17:37.19 | Thorsell | abandoned base, dunno what's out in the jungle.. |
| 17:37.26 | Thorsell | DUN DUUUUN |
| 17:37.34 | Thorsell | but subtle |
| 17:37.36 | Thorsell | not DUN |
| 17:37.42 | BorgDragon | ok, so that test was FAIL |
| 17:37.58 | BDmon | but cool keep adding detail looks good :] |
| 17:38.06 | BDmon | what test |
| 17:38.27 | BorgDragon | well |
| 17:38.41 | BorgDragon | I added an invisible turret based off Mothership Rotate |
| 17:38.42 | BorgDragon | to my unit |
| 17:38.50 | BorgDragon | then I added an effect, tied it to the turret |
| 17:38.56 | BorgDragon | so that the effect spins around my unit |
| 17:39.06 | BorgDragon | but now the effect spawns, but does not spin or follow the unit anymore |
| 17:39.32 | BDmon | well u made a sticky bomb |
| 17:39.37 | BDmon | should know how to solve that :P |
| 17:39.55 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 17:40.01 | BorgDragon | this is my first time dealing with turret |
| 17:40.11 | BorgDragon | apparently having the Site Ops |
| 17:40.13 | BorgDragon | as Turret |
| 17:40.24 | BorgDragon | doesnt work because by default templar doesn't have a turret SOps |
| 17:41.16 | Thorsell | BDmon thx, I've resized the ground thing a little now |
| 17:41.19 | Thorsell | looks better |
| 17:42.19 | Thorsell | LOL the fly swarm was set to 70% |
| 17:42.26 | Thorsell | reset it to 50 |
| 17:44.02 | Thorsell | what do you think of the DoF |
| 17:44.15 | Thorsell | is it okay? or too little maybe? |
| 17:44.22 | Thorsell | I want the fire blurry in the bg |
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| 17:45.42 | Thorsell | What about adding a light beam that shines down from the tower building? |
| 17:45.48 | Thorsell | That might spice it up even more |
| 17:46.26 | Thorsell | though.. I dunno how to set up those.. rays or beams or what they're called |
| 17:46.30 | Thorsell | oh well |
| 17:46.32 | Thorsell | waffle time |
| 17:46.35 | Thorsell | bbl |
| 17:47.03 | BDmon | ait |
| 17:47.12 | BDmon | looks good though also light beam might be nice |
| 17:47.21 | BDmon | but i guess there's no people going to be inthere right |
| 17:47.29 | BDmon | so might be weird that its still on |
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| 17:50.25 | BorgDragon | hrmmm |
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| 17:51.55 | BorgDragon | fuck it |
| 17:52.07 | BorgDragon | that's a little too complex |
| 17:57.23 | Azu | Thorsell? |
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| 17:59.46 | BorgDragon | OMG I GOT IT FUCKING WORKING |
| 17:59.49 | BorgDragon | SWEEEEEEET |
| 17:59.54 | BorgDragon | FUCKING caps lock! |
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| 18:00.10 | BorgDragon | my special effect rotates around my High Templar! |
| 18:00.17 | BDmon | hehe nice man |
| 18:00.17 | BorgDragon | flexes like a madman |
| 18:00.19 | BDmon | good job |
| 18:00.28 | BorgDragon | 's weak muscles explode from the strain |
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| 18:01.11 | Thorsell | Hello there |
| 18:01.13 | Thorsell | Azu |
| 18:01.24 | Thorsell | I accidentally sent something to u |
| 18:01.27 | Vindicator | does anyone know if you can keep the editor from minimizing itself when you test a map? been wondering this for months now |
| 18:01.30 | Thorsell | it was for BDmon |
| 18:01.31 | Azu | indeed :P |
| 18:01.46 | Thorsell | Minimizing? |
| 18:02.32 | Vindicator | ya- when you test a map in the editor the windows like triggers/data/terrain always minimize themselves in windows |
| 18:02.44 | Thorsell | Not mine |
| 18:02.49 | Vindicator | r u on pc or mac? |
| 18:02.55 | Thorsell | PC |
| 18:03.09 | BorgDragon | mine minimize... |
| 18:03.15 | Thorsell | Maybe there's a checkbox somewhere for that? |
| 18:03.17 | BorgDragon | you test full screen or window? |
| 18:03.26 | Thorsell | Both AT THE SAME TIME |
| 18:03.27 | Thorsell | nah |
| 18:03.27 | Vindicator | wtf really ?? i've used the editor on 5-7 pcs and when u CTRL+F9 to test a map they always minimize whether fullscreen or windowed for the game |
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| 18:03.45 | BDmon | mine too |
| 18:04.07 | BDmon | but i always alt-tab back to it |
| 18:04.32 | Vindicator | ya same, but it's just a pain cuz in unhighlights what you had clicked in the trigger editor etc |
| 18:04.57 | Vindicator | do u remember disabling it somewhere Thorsell or it's never done it for u? |
| 18:05.02 | Thorsell | hmmm |
| 18:05.06 | BorgDragon | oh man my Templar looks badass |
| 18:05.09 | Thorsell | I'm trying around |
| 18:05.11 | Vindicator | cuz i've looked through preferences a few times and haven't seen anything |
| 18:05.22 | Thorsell | in fullscreen it doesn't minimize |
| 18:05.32 | Thorsell | though in windowed it does |
| 18:06.07 | Vindicator | hmm i've got 2 monitors hooked up right now, let me check to make sure but i don't remember mine caring whether it was fullscreen or windowed |
| 18:06.11 | Thorsell | maybe it doesn't minimize if you keep the game open and just alt-tab like BDmon |
| 18:06.30 | BorgDragon | hey |
| 18:06.36 | BorgDragon | how come I cannot see my map in the map editor now? |
| 18:06.39 | BorgDragon | the minimap is fine |
| 18:06.42 | BorgDragon | i can move around, place shit |
| 18:06.47 | BorgDragon | but the map's not showing up in the main window |
| 18:06.53 | BorgDragon | i musta hit some hotkey or something.... |
| 18:07.05 | Vindicator | keeping the game open doesn't make a difference for me =/ |
| 18:07.20 | Thorsell | hmm |
| 18:07.21 | Vindicator | every ctrl+f9 / test document = editor minimizationz =( |
| 18:07.31 | Thorsell | maybe I've just imagined that it doesn't |
| 18:07.42 | Thorsell | or just haven't thought of it at all |
| 18:07.45 | Thorsell | I dunno =/ |
| 18:08.04 | Vindicator | ya fullscreen doesn't make a difference either =/ |
| 18:08.35 | Vindicator | i wish i could 'imagine' it not happening =D |
| 18:08.39 | Thorsell | Lol |
| 18:08.40 | Thorsell | yeah |
| 18:08.51 | Thorsell | I'll probably start to think about it now |
| 18:08.54 | Thorsell | dammit |
| 18:09.13 | Bounty | Question |
| 18:09.20 | Thorsell | BDmon yeah that's right about the base being abandoned and there are lights on though |
| 18:09.25 | Bounty | Do people really pay to have someone teach them how to play fucking Starcraft 2? |
| 18:09.34 | Thorsell | maybe it's just very rarely visited |
| 18:09.43 | Bounty | Like do these assholes really make money teaching ppl? lol |
| 18:09.49 | Thorsell | Yeah that's probably a market for that :P |
| 18:10.09 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 18:10.15 | BorgDragon | you talking about Force ? |
| 18:10.39 | Bounty | Force? |
| 18:10.44 | BorgDragon | ForceSC2 |
| 18:10.51 | Bounty | idk |
| 18:10.56 | BorgDragon | he trains ppl for money |
| 18:10.57 | Bounty | every stream on livestream |
| 18:11.02 | Bounty | that is sc2 |
| 18:11.04 | Vindicator | ok 1 other question - i'm making a big menu system for a game, and i've got tons of dialogs and dialog items being shown and hidden when the menu is opened and closed, but i just added 4 'screen images' today and they show up once, then are removed with a 'destroy all dialogs' trigger (the same way everything else is removed from the screen) but when i open the menu a 2nd time - these screen |
| 18:11.04 | Vindicator | images are the ONLY things that don't show up a second time - anyone have a clue as to why? |
| 18:11.06 | Bounty | the guy whos stream it is |
| 18:11.09 | Bounty | is always offering lessons |
| 18:11.13 | Bounty | at like 10-15 an hour |
| 18:11.14 | Bounty | like wtf? |
| 18:11.16 | Bounty | suck my balls |
| 18:11.18 | BorgDragon | 10-15 an hour? |
| 18:11.20 | Bounty | who the hell would pay that |
| 18:11.21 | BorgDragon | that's pretty fucking cheap |
| 18:11.25 | BorgDragon | Force charges like 50 |
| 18:11.32 | Bounty | yeah wlel |
| 18:11.34 | BorgDragon | but ya, why pay someone to teach you, lol |
| 18:11.37 | Bounty | Ill force him to blow me |
| 18:11.40 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:11.45 | Bounty | dude |
| 18:11.48 | BorgDragon | just watch your own replays and watch the Day9 dailies |
| 18:11.51 | Bounty | You could watch their stream for free! |
| 18:11.55 | Bounty | and see what they do |
| 18:12.00 | Bounty | or learn on ur own |
| 18:12.04 | BorgDragon | where he analyzes pro games, learned~ |
| 18:12.23 | Bounty | Imo |
| 18:12.29 | Bounty | SC2 is to new to be an e sport |
| 18:12.34 | BorgDragon | ya |
| 18:12.37 | Bounty | ur tellin me they nailed balance on the head this fast? |
| 18:12.37 | BorgDragon | there's gonna be another 100 patches |
| 18:12.39 | BorgDragon | and 2 expansions |
| 18:12.44 | BorgDragon | of course not |
| 18:12.53 | Bounty | yeah so |
| 18:12.54 | BorgDragon | not even close |
| 18:12.55 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 18:12.56 | Bounty | ppl need to stfu lol |
| 18:13.00 | Bounty | and stop charging |
| 18:13.04 | BorgDragon | yea |
| 18:13.05 | Bounty | for shit that isnt even perma |
| 18:13.07 | BorgDragon | stop offering |
| 18:13.11 | Jum-Jum | game is pretty damn balanced so far |
| 18:13.21 | Jum-Jum | in comparison to every other game |
| 18:13.30 | Bounty | i dont play the game so i wouldnt know |
| 18:13.34 | BorgDragon | me either |
| 18:13.37 | Bounty | i just know its not possible to balance a game this fast |
| 18:13.45 | BorgDragon | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.56 | Bounty | u cant balance it until the real world plays it for a few months or even years lol |
| 18:14.00 | BorgDragon | and then, I played another 3 2v2AI with the same friend vs VHard comps, like 2 weeks ago |
| 18:14.10 | BorgDragon | I play about 3 melee games every 2 weeks |
| 18:14.19 | Jum-Jum | that really doesnt make much sense tho Bounty |
| 18:14.26 | BorgDragon | sure it does |
| 18:14.27 | Bounty | how doesnt it? |
| 18:14.32 | BorgDragon | it took YEARS for BW to be balanced |
| 18:14.34 | Bounty | they cant test what real players will do |
| 18:14.38 | Jum-Jum | if the tournaments are balanced, the statistics are, and if everyone plays at an equal level |
| 18:14.41 | Jum-Jum | how is it not balanced? |
| 18:14.52 | Bounty | so ur tellin me the game is 100% balanced? |
| 18:14.55 | Jum-Jum | no |
| 18:14.57 | Bounty | ok then |
| 18:15.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:15.03 | Jum-Jum | no game is |
| 18:15.13 | Vindicator | tic tac toe? |
| 18:15.16 | Bounty | then it shouldnt be an esport |
| 18:15.18 | Bounty | tic tac toe is imba |
| 18:15.22 | Bounty | whoever goes first will win |
| 18:15.25 | Jum-Jum | if you think like that then no game is balanced |
| 18:15.27 | Bounty | u cant win if u go second |
| 18:15.32 | Jum-Jum | let people play scbw for another 10 years, then suddenly one race is OP again |
| 18:15.33 | Bounty | unless ur opponent is retarded |
| 18:15.45 | Jum-Jum | and something needs to be nerfed because someone just figured out something really hacky |
| 18:15.47 | BorgDragon | is there a way of tinting only certain parts of a model? |
| 18:15.49 | Vindicator | 2 marines, 1v1 - balanced =D |
| 18:15.52 | BorgDragon | probably not, right ? |
| 18:16.05 | Jum-Jum | unless the races are mirrored and the maps are mirrored then the game can never be balanced |
| 18:16.34 | BorgDragon | if no one has found something really hacky in BW by now |
| 18:16.40 | BorgDragon | no one ever will |
| 18:16.46 | Jum-Jum | how would you know? |
| 18:17.02 | Jum-Jum | just look at wc3, it changed a lot since the first years of progaming |
| 18:17.02 | Bounty | im just sayin |
| 18:17.07 | Bounty | i think SC2 is to young |
| 18:17.11 | Bounty | to be an e sport |
| 18:17.12 | Thorsell | BorgDragon, no probably not |
| 18:17.13 | Bounty | thats all im saying |
| 18:17.16 | Thorsell | about the tinting |
| 18:17.22 | BorgDragon | ya, I thought so |
| 18:17.24 | BorgDragon | thorsell* |
| 18:17.28 | BorgDragon | that's too bad.. |
| 18:17.30 | A1win | what's the radius of pylon power area? |
| 18:17.34 | Vindicator | its super competitive and pretty dang balanced for being so young so i like it |
| 18:17.34 | BorgDragon | I want the templar skin |
| 18:17.39 | BorgDragon | to be a 'light blue' |
| 18:17.44 | BorgDragon | but the rest of him regular color |
| 18:17.48 | Thorsell | You could make a custom skin for that? |
| 18:17.52 | BorgDragon | naah |
| 18:17.56 | BorgDragon | this isn't for a project or anything |
| 18:18.00 | BorgDragon | just fooling around |
| 18:18.05 | Thorsell | :P |
| 18:18.09 | BorgDragon | I don't do projects |
| 18:18.17 | Bounty | i love watching these "sc2 pro" stream |
| 18:18.17 | Thorsell | heheh |
| 18:18.21 | Bounty | and hearing them spam keyboard |
| 18:18.27 | Thorsell | :P |
| 18:18.27 | BorgDragon | but i love screwing around with the editor :P |
| 18:18.29 | Bounty | makes me laugh |
| 18:18.33 | Thorsell | Yeah |
| 18:18.34 | Bounty | bc they arent even doing nething |
| 18:18.37 | BorgDragon | why does it make you laugh? |
| 18:18.42 | Bounty | the game just started |
| 18:18.47 | Bounty | and the dude is pressing like 10000 keys |
| 18:18.49 | BorgDragon | it gets rid of any adrenaline that might be in your body, and gets your fingers limbered up |
| 18:18.49 | Bounty | per second |
| 18:19.00 | Bounty | oh please |
| 18:19.00 | Thorsell | Hahaha |
| 18:19.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:19.06 | Thorsell | yeah though |
| 18:19.07 | BorgDragon | I spam at the start of a game and I'm always fucking nervous in PVP |
| 18:19.10 | Thorsell | about the fingers |
| 18:19.25 | BorgDragon | and I'm probably only a silver rank lol |
| 18:19.53 | Thorsell | Hmm... I want to do a proper machinima in SC2 |
| 18:20.20 | Thorsell | Looked at Machinima.com and they don't even have a section for SC2 yet |
| 18:20.44 | Thorsell | or, they have, but there's only all the trailers for the game and stuff... =/ |
| 18:20.55 | Bounty | i went to TL |
| 18:20.57 | Thorsell | No series or anything |
| 18:20.58 | Bounty | and went to soemthing called |
| 18:21.00 | Bounty | liquibets |
| 18:21.00 | BorgDragon | team liquid? |
| 18:21.05 | Bounty | and it was just a giant list |
| 18:21.08 | Bounty | of koreans |
| 18:21.11 | Bounty | like 50 of them |
| 18:21.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:21.32 | BorgDragon | ESports are going to have their own bookies soon |
| 18:21.37 | BorgDragon | and murders lol |
| 18:21.54 | Bounty | that shit prolly already happens in korea |
| 18:21.59 | BorgDragon | the World of Underground ESpors waging! |
| 18:22.03 | Thorsell | Probably |
| 18:22.07 | BorgDragon | I don't doubt it |
| 18:22.16 | BorgDragon | probably has only happened in Korea |
| 18:22.23 | Thorsell | If they have their own tv-channels... |
| 18:22.25 | BorgDragon | i doubt anywhere else, yet |
| 18:22.26 | Thorsell | then yeah |
| 18:22.34 | Thorsell | Japan maybe |
| 18:22.35 | Bounty | also |
| 18:22.40 | Bounty | u know whats worse then e sports? |
| 18:22.46 | Bounty | ppl who watch it like its football |
| 18:22.49 | Bounty | :) |
| 18:22.54 | Thorsell | heheh |
| 18:23.03 | Thorsell | though that's cool |
| 18:23.15 | Thorsell | you have your team or player you're cheering at |
| 18:23.32 | Bounty | yeah but the actual game |
| 18:23.38 | Bounty | ur just watching a video game lol |
| 18:23.43 | Bounty | something that u could do |
| 18:23.51 | BorgDragon | eeh, I watch almost all the pro matches, I find it interesting |
| 18:23.51 | Thorsell | well doesn't that count? |
| 18:24.00 | BorgDragon | not like I can ever be that good lol |
| 18:24.07 | Bounty | yes u could |
| 18:24.10 | Bounty | the only reason ur not |
| 18:24.15 | BorgDragon | is cause i like the GE |
| 18:24.17 | Bounty | is bc of ur attitude that u cant lol |
| 18:24.20 | Bounty | and that |
| 18:24.24 | Thorsell | and cake |
| 18:24.29 | BorgDragon | the cake is a lie! |
| 18:24.33 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 18:24.36 | Bounty | anyone can be a pro sc2 player imo |
| 18:24.44 | BorgDragon | well ya bounty |
| 18:24.48 | BorgDragon | I'm not saying i NEVER could |
| 18:24.51 | BorgDragon | in the literal sense |
| 18:24.52 | Bounty | its prolly the only thing in the world that can be achieved with only time and hard work lol |
| 18:24.55 | Bounty | and ur guaranteed to get it |
| 18:24.58 | Thorsell | it's easier when you are younger |
| 18:25.01 | BorgDragon | I'm just not devoted to learning to play it that much |
| 18:25.02 | Thorsell | to get good |
| 18:25.27 | Thorsell | I think national geographic hade a documentary about SC |
| 18:25.33 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 18:25.34 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:25.37 | Bounty | game is so balanced yet |
| 18:25.37 | Thorsell | the tv channel |
| 18:25.41 | Bounty | this fag just lost on his stream |
| 18:25.43 | Bounty | and hes like |
| 18:25.46 | Bounty | YAY BLINK STALKERS |
| 18:25.50 | Bounty | what about them? |
| 18:25.59 | BorgDragon | did they show scenery from a map the episode, Thorsell ? |
| 18:26.14 | BorgDragon | and some "native" species aka Zerg? |
| 18:26.16 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 18:26.24 | Thorsell | I didn't see it though a friend talked about it |
| 18:26.26 | Thorsell | no really |
| 18:26.27 | Bounty | now hes bitching about how easy blink stalkers are to do and how hard they are to stop |
| 18:26.28 | Thorsell | about the game |
| 18:26.31 | Thorsell | and the players |
| 18:26.32 | Bounty | i dont get it? |
| 18:26.36 | BorgDragon | bounty |
| 18:26.38 | BorgDragon | what race is the loser? |
| 18:26.40 | Thorsell | and how they became so good |
| 18:26.42 | Bounty | zerg |
| 18:26.44 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 18:26.47 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:26.49 | BorgDragon | FUNGAL GROWTH |
| 18:26.50 | Bounty | its like dude |
| 18:26.53 | BorgDragon | stops blink stalkers |
| 18:26.54 | Bounty | ur giving fucking lessons on sc2 |
| 18:26.58 | Bounty | and charging |
| 18:27.02 | Bounty | yet ur bitching about balance |
| 18:27.05 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 18:27.10 | Bounty | why the fuck would i take lessons on an unbalanced game |
| 18:27.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:27.19 | Bounty | i love it :) |
| 18:27.25 | Thorsell | :P |
| 18:27.27 | Bounty | and when i say that |
| 18:27.30 | Bounty | i mean i love hating it |
| 18:27.35 | Bounty | hate hate hate |
| 18:27.37 | BorgDragon | if you are zerg and you fail to scout blink tech, well, you lose, better luck next time |
| 18:27.45 | Thorsell | apparently they monitored the brain activity on some kid playing SC really good |
| 18:28.01 | Bounty | i bet he had none |
| 18:28.10 | BorgDragon | did the brain monitor machine explode from lack of input? |
| 18:28.13 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 18:28.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:28.28 | Bounty | sc2 is rock paper scissors |
| 18:28.31 | Bounty | Ok i scout this |
| 18:28.34 | Bounty | so i do this |
| 18:28.36 | Bounty | or i lose |
| 18:28.38 | BorgDragon | with a hint of DYNO-MITE! |
| 18:28.42 | Thorsell | and when he was starting to lose, the actual part of his brain that controlled survival instinct activated |
| 18:28.50 | Bounty | LOL |
| 18:28.52 | J-Man_ | not as much as some other games |
| 18:29.02 | Bounty | thats nothing major Thorsell |
| 18:29.09 | Bounty | im sure that kicks in when fags play call of duty |
| 18:29.11 | Thorsell | because he played the game so much it had rerouted it |
| 18:29.15 | J-Man_ | if i scout immortals, and attack with three times as many stalkers. i don't lose |
| 18:29.17 | Bounty | and those people barely have a brain |
| 18:29.17 | BorgDragon | I woulda figured the survival instint would come into play |
| 18:29.22 | BorgDragon | LOL Bounty |
| 18:29.41 | Bounty | yeah but im sayin |
| 18:29.45 | Bounty | thats nothing amazing |
| 18:29.46 | Thorsell | yeah but like, instinctively |
| 18:29.49 | Bounty | that is normal for every game |
| 18:29.53 | Bounty | any pvp game |
| 18:29.57 | Bounty | it will kick in |
| 18:30.00 | Thorsell | he played the game like it was part of him |
| 18:30.04 | Bounty | its when yo uget that gut feeling |
| 18:30.14 | Bounty | like ur about to get ur ass kicked in real life |
| 18:30.18 | J-Man_ | in some games, if you don't counter, you lose period |
| 18:30.20 | Bounty | like oh shit |
| 18:30.22 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:30.40 | Thorsell | yeah he was responding to the enemy tactics so fast |
| 18:30.43 | BorgDragon | who the fuck uses immortals anyways? lol |
| 18:30.43 | J-Man_ | in sc2, i can beat vrs with zealots... if i can base trade fast enough |
| 18:30.48 | J-Man_ | i do all the time |
| 18:30.50 | J-Man_ | they rock ass |
| 18:30.59 | BorgDragon | Zealot/Templar |
| 18:31.06 | BorgDragon | is sexy |
| 18:31.08 | Bounty | Ok u wanna know why e sports fails? |
| 18:31.14 | J-Man_ | because every P player goes stalker and/or colossus |
| 18:31.19 | Bounty | Why the fuck isnt battle tetris an e sport? |
| 18:31.25 | Bounty | monitor someones brain activity playing that shit |
| 18:31.29 | Bounty | DO IT |
| 18:31.34 | Thorsell | that would be cool |
| 18:31.35 | BorgDragon | what the fuck IS battle tetris? |
| 18:31.42 | Bounty | i dont know if its even a game |
| 18:31.44 | BorgDragon | and Tetris was an esport sort of a long time ago |
| 18:31.49 | Bounty | but im sure it has to be out there |
| 18:31.54 | BorgDragon | in the baby days |
| 18:31.58 | BorgDragon | pro tourneys and all |
| 18:32.00 | Bounty | that is perfectly balanced |
| 18:32.03 | Thorsell | you can esport in any game really |
| 18:32.07 | Bounty | and takes skill |
| 18:32.17 | BorgDragon | they fucking have Rubix Cube speed contests worldwide... |
| 18:32.22 | Thorsell | yeah |
| 18:32.24 | BorgDragon | like who gives a fuck if it takes you 30 seconds to solve a cube |
| 18:32.31 | BorgDragon | go out and do something good for the world instead lol |
| 18:32.38 | Bounty | its not even that Borg |
| 18:32.46 | Bounty | its that rubix cube was hard like |
| 18:32.47 | Thorsell | some guy just won the kids national championship in Rubix |
| 18:32.47 | Bounty | 70 years ago |
| 18:32.47 | Thorsell | here |
| 18:32.49 | Thorsell | where I live |
| 18:32.49 | Bounty | now everyone knows the trick |
| 18:32.52 | Bounty | so its not big deal |
| 18:33.06 | Bounty | Rubix cube is a joke lol |
| 18:33.07 | Thorsell | and he set a new swedish record or something |
| 18:33.09 | J-Man_ | the internet: the great equalizer |
| 18:33.10 | BorgDragon | also, they have Scissors, Paper, Rock competitions |
| 18:33.16 | Bounty | yeah |
| 18:33.17 | Thorsell | Lol |
| 18:33.20 | Bounty | i saw that on G4 |
| 18:33.20 | Thorsell | my friend |
| 18:33.22 | Bounty | made me laugh |
| 18:33.23 | J-Man_ | that's just stupid |
| 18:33.23 | BorgDragon | i mean, I have them with my friend, lol |
| 18:33.27 | Thorsell | he used to play with his friend |
| 18:33.31 | Thorsell | s |
| 18:33.34 | Thorsell | and bet |
| 18:33.35 | BorgDragon | we usually go first to win 1 wins |
| 18:33.37 | Thorsell | money |
| 18:33.38 | J-Man_ | RPS is like 10% psycological, 90% luck |
| 18:33.40 | BorgDragon | and we do about 20 fucking attempts |
| 18:34.00 | Thorsell | like 50 dollars every turn, like in poker |
| 18:34.04 | Bounty | 0% psycological |
| 18:34.06 | Bounty | imo |
| 18:34.16 | Bounty | wtf can u do to psyche someone out? |
| 18:34.20 | Bounty | to make them throw paper |
| 18:34.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:34.25 | BorgDragon | its not you psyching them out |
| 18:34.36 | Bounty | its not like u can read them either |
| 18:34.36 | BorgDragon | its you attempting to predict what they will do next |
| 18:34.42 | Bounty | thats luck |
| 18:34.44 | BorgDragon | based on your previous hands |
| 18:34.44 | Bounty | all luck |
| 18:34.47 | Thorsell | no |
| 18:34.50 | Thorsell | not all luck |
| 18:34.52 | BorgDragon | no its not, if I commit to paper |
| 18:35.09 | Thorsell | some friends I play with ALWAYS start out with the same thing |
| 18:35.14 | BorgDragon | it's not luck if I am thinking he's going to go rock because I just went X-Y-Z in previous cast |
| 18:35.17 | Thorsell | they don't even realize it themselves |
| 18:35.39 | Bounty | well thats probability |
| 18:35.41 | Bounty | not a skill |
| 18:35.47 | Bounty | if we just did one match |
| 18:35.51 | Bounty | of Rock paper scissors |
| 18:35.56 | Bounty | its zero skill |
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| 18:35.58 | Thorsell | I'd win |
| 18:35.59 | BorgDragon | no one ever does just one match |
| 18:36.04 | Bounty | i know im just sayin |
| 18:36.06 | Thorsell | Best of 3 |
| 18:36.07 | Bounty | if you do anything |
| 18:36.09 | Bounty | over and over |
| 18:36.14 | Bounty | it has a probability of doing something |
| 18:36.20 | Bounty | fucking roulette |
| 18:36.24 | Bounty | if it comes up red 10 times |
| 18:36.26 | Bounty | im gonna bet black |
| 18:36.31 | Bounty | its still luck |
| 18:36.46 | BorgDragon | but roulette isn't controlled by another player |
| 18:36.53 | Bounty | it doesnt matter lol |
| 18:36.55 | J-Man_ | yeah it's luck. there's no way to truly get in a person's head |
| 18:37.01 | BorgDragon | LOL WHY THE FUCK ARE WE DISCUSSING THIS SHIT ANYWAYS? |
| 18:37.09 | Bounty | i dont know |
| 18:37.10 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 18:37.11 | Bounty | all i know is |
| 18:37.13 | Bounty | i win |
| 18:37.14 | J-Man_ | even if they do the same thing every time. what's to say they won't change up this time? |
| 18:37.19 | Bounty | Stick that in your pipe and smoke it |
| 18:37.24 | BorgDragon | you didn't win |
| 18:37.26 | J-Man_ | they're not a computer, they're a human |
| 18:37.29 | BorgDragon | someone has to lose for you to win |
| 18:37.38 | Bounty | Exactly |
| 18:37.40 | Bounty | You lost |
| 18:37.44 | Bounty | What dont you understand? |
| 18:37.45 | BorgDragon | nope |
| 18:37.45 | Bounty | :) |
| 18:37.51 | BorgDragon | you didn't win and I didn't lose |
| 18:38.13 | Bounty | Why Mr Anderson, why why WHY DO YOU PERSIST!? |
| 18:38.22 | BorgDragon | this is an A B conversation and I'm going to C my way out of it |
| 18:38.29 | BorgDragon | I wanna do some Uber work today lol |
| 18:38.36 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:38.57 | J-Man_ | so my game has a hero, and you're hero can hire units (permanently) |
| 18:39.16 | J-Man_ | when the hero dies, he gets warped back to the starting place, and the units pretty much always just die |
| 18:39.25 | J-Man_ | i'm not sure i want that to happen |
| 18:39.47 | J-Man_ | design-wise, any ideas on how i can deal with that? |
| 18:39.58 | J-Man_ | i'm not worried about any of the technical details |
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| 18:40.15 | J-Man_ | obviously i can warp the units back too, but i'm not sure that *feels* right |
| 18:40.18 | BorgDragon | the units die? you mean the hirelings? |
| 18:40.23 | J-Man_ | yeah |
| 18:40.31 | BorgDragon | Order them to move back to start then |
| 18:40.32 | BorgDragon | like, run |
| 18:40.34 | J-Man_ | if left stranded, they're gonna die most likely |
| 18:40.38 | BorgDragon | and uncommandable until they reach the hero |
| 18:40.48 | BorgDragon | at least have them attempt to run back to their master |
| 18:40.55 | BorgDragon | attempt is better than leaving them to die |
| 18:40.56 | J-Man_ | that could work |
| 18:40.58 | BorgDragon | without a chance |
| 18:41.28 | J-Man_ | i guess if i give a town portal option, the idea would be to retreat before you die |
| 18:41.48 | J-Man_ | and potentially losing units could be the death penalty |
| 18:42.04 | J-Man_ | right now, there isn't a penalty for death except the warp-back |
| 18:42.12 | BorgDragon | ah shiit |
| 18:42.32 | BorgDragon | tinting my portrait will be a pain in the ass |
| 18:42.37 | BorgDragon | to match the unit tint |
| 18:44.27 | BorgDragon | damn, changing Model color does nothing... looks like I'm going to have to try out all the lightings... |
| 18:46.32 | J-Man_ | i thought there was a way to tint a model |
| 18:46.35 | J-Man_ | never done it tho |
| 18:47.01 | J-Man_ | i think i should make all the enemies in my game dark probes |
| 18:47.07 | J-Man_ | and they just get bigger with level |
| 18:47.23 | doite | is there a way to disable so mouse scroll isnt change view |
| 18:47.25 | doite | ? |
| 18:47.29 | J-Man_ | because anything that can be evil and a probe is my hero |
| 18:47.50 | J-Man_ | fix the camera to a specific location? |
| 18:47.52 | BorgDragon | i am tinting the model |
| 18:47.59 | BorgDragon | er |
| 18:48.04 | BorgDragon | wait a minute, u just gave me an idea |
| 18:48.10 | BorgDragon | excellent |
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| 18:49.18 | J-Man_ | glad i could do... whatever it is i did |
| 18:49.26 | J-Man_ | does it have anything to do with dark probes? |
| 18:49.49 | doite | Yea |
| 18:49.51 | doite | And locked |
| 18:50.12 | J-Man_ | you can lock the camera with a trigger |
| 18:50.13 | doite | I dont know why, but when zooming out (or scolling out, it scrolls away from the unit |
| 18:50.19 | doite | But it is locked.. |
| 18:50.22 | J-Man_ | look through the camera triggers |
| 18:50.41 | J-Man_ | you can zoom out in triggers too |
| 18:50.52 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.01 | J-Man_ | that's the guy |
| 18:51.11 | doite | But it was like that |
| 18:51.17 | J-Man_ | oh |
| 18:51.18 | doite | I still can zoom out |
| 18:51.24 | doite | Or .. once again |
| 18:51.25 | doite | scroll |
| 18:51.37 | J-Man_ | you can only scroll if you scroll out |
| 18:51.40 | J-Man_ | er, zoom out |
| 18:51.49 | J-Man_ | it's really quite weird how it works |
| 18:51.54 | doite | cant i just disable it? |
| 18:52.01 | J-Man_ | i haven't found a way around it yet, unfortunately |
| 18:52.10 | doite | K ill think of some way=) |
| 18:52.12 | J-Man_ | there doesn't appear to be a way to trigger on the scroll |
| 18:52.24 | J-Man_ | is there a lock zoom trigger? |
| 18:52.25 | doite | Ah |
| 18:52.28 | doite | In data editor? |
| 18:52.34 | doite | Has to be some scroll funktion there |
| 18:52.38 | doite | That i can disable |
| 18:52.38 | doite | ? |
| 18:52.42 | doite | In "camera" |
| 18:52.58 | doite | Since the scroll is a sort of angle. what if i remove that angle |
| 18:53.02 | doite | Removing scroll? |
| 18:53.10 | J-Man_ | lock camera input |
| 18:53.17 | J-Man_ | trigger |
| 18:53.36 | BorgDragon | nope, damn |
| 18:54.19 | doite | well |
| 18:54.20 | BorgDragon | that didn't pan out for me |
| 18:54.22 | doite | yea J man |
| 18:54.31 | Thorsell | strange :P |
| 18:54.33 | doite | Lock camera input disabled scroll |
| 18:54.41 | doite | BUT it also disabled mouse movement |
| 18:54.57 | J-Man_ | ok that's bad |
| 18:55.00 | Thorsell | what is it that you're trying to do? |
| 18:55.13 | doite | Quite in on a shoot em up map |
| 18:55.14 | doite | =) |
| 18:55.14 | J-Man_ | i think he's trying to lock the zoom level |
| 18:55.15 | Thorsell | can't you use that and lock the camera on a unit or something |
| 18:55.32 | doite | I have |
| 18:56.00 | doite | Camera - Lock camera mouse relative mode On for player (Picked player) |
| 18:56.02 | Thorsell | annoying |
| 18:56.05 | doite | Relative mode is the camera that is set |
| 18:56.20 | doite | Yea.. Ill just hope no one touches scroll :( |
| 18:56.30 | Thorsell | lol |
| 18:56.36 | Thorsell | what happens if they do? |
| 18:56.39 | A1win | uh... is there a way to let any player use the power from one player's pylons? |
| 18:56.42 | J-Man_ | you can't really hope that, because they will |
| 18:56.43 | Thorsell | EXLOSION? |
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| 18:56.47 | doite | They zoom up and down alittle |
| 18:56.58 | doite | AHA! i can do a event? |
| 18:57.12 | J-Man_ | the interact ability might work a1, but i've only found that to work for neutral units |
| 18:57.18 | doite | If anyplayer.. balba mouse scroll , then action reset the camera? |
| 18:57.21 | doite | Should work? |
| 18:58.03 | doite | So every time they scroll.. the trigger resets the camera to the same input as before? |
| 18:58.17 | J-Man_ | there's no event for mouse scroll |
| 18:58.20 | J-Man_ | that i know of |
| 18:58.35 | Demonette | Uhm Hi guys |
| 18:58.48 | Bounty | wazaaa |
| 18:58.49 | Demonette | Hi Arthas- |
| 18:58.50 | Bounty | p |
| 18:58.53 | J-Man_ | yo |
| 18:58.55 | Demonette | what have you done with Helral? -.- |
| 18:59.01 | Demonette | Hi Xaragoth |
| 18:59.31 | Xaragoth | hi Demonette |
| 18:59.52 | BorgDragon | demonette, you wouldn't happen to know how to tint Portraits? |
| 18:59.58 | BorgDragon | like blizz did with rainbow archon |
| 19:00.09 | Bounty | fuck man |
| 19:00.12 | Demonette | Just tint the portrait |
| 19:00.15 | Demonette | in the events |
| 19:00.17 | Bounty | playing disgaea was a bad idea |
| 19:00.17 | Demonette | of the acteur |
| 19:00.19 | BorgDragon | you can't JUST tint |
| 19:00.24 | BorgDragon | there are no actors for portraits |
| 19:00.26 | Bounty | now i just want to take every move in Win the Crowd |
| 19:00.29 | BorgDragon | its a model only |
| 19:00.32 | Demonette | Mmmhh |
| 19:00.34 | Bounty | and make it some riddiculas combo |
| 19:00.39 | Bounty | that does 1 billion damage |
| 19:00.45 | J-Man_ | pull the image out and tint it in photoshop? |
| 19:01.00 | Demonette | hasn't they said that the portait model is linked to the ingame model? |
| 19:01.04 | BorgDragon | screw that shit lol |
| 19:01.13 | BorgDragon | no its not |
| 19:01.18 | BorgDragon | I've got a tint on my unit |
| 19:01.24 | Bounty | Hey Xara, would you like a new video to riddicule? :) |
| 19:01.26 | BorgDragon | but the portrait dont match |
| 19:01.29 | Demonette | They said something like that in there presentation |
| 19:01.34 | Demonette | how are you xara? |
| 19:01.41 | Demonette | ? |
| 19:01.43 | BorgDragon | hmm, maybe I'll have to watch their presentation |
| 19:01.48 | BorgDragon | was it the blizzcon 10 vids? |
| 19:01.48 | Bounty | He is most likely angry |
| 19:01.53 | Demonette | what you mean by the portrait don't match |
| 19:01.54 | Bounty | Thats just my guess |
| 19:01.58 | Demonette | yea blizzcon 10 vids |
| 19:02.27 | BorgDragon | i thought when u meant the portrail is linked to the ingame model, that it would auto tint to match the unit actor |
| 19:02.32 | BorgDragon | portrait* |
| 19:02.49 | Demonette | *sign* |
| 19:02.56 | Demonette | should i look at this? |
| 19:03.07 | Bounty | Hey guys |
| 19:03.15 | Bounty | are there any Italic fonts in the editor |
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| 19:03.43 | Demonette | don't think so... |
| 19:04.04 | Demonette | but someone made a screen with all ingame fonts somewhere |
| 19:04.14 | Demonette | search in the forum |
| 19:04.42 | Bounty | oo |
| 19:04.43 | Bounty | nice |
| 19:04.44 | Bounty | thx |
| 19:05.03 | A1win | meh I'll just create invisible pylons over the pylon for each player and remove them when the pylon dies :P |
| 19:05.29 | Demonette | can someone explain simple recursions to me? =P |
| 19:05.34 | J-Man_ | or you can change control briefly as they approach it |
| 19:05.46 | A1win | nah... want it to be constant |
| 19:06.04 | J-Man_ | what do you need explained? |
| 19:06.47 | Demonette | why are simple recursion simple recursions... and not normal recursions... |
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| 19:07.25 | J-Man_ | i'm not really sure what the difference is |
| 19:07.28 | doite | Ok.. |
| 19:07.43 | J-Man_ | recusion can be done in data, or through actual recursion |
| 19:07.46 | Bounty | rofl |
| 19:07.47 | Bounty | omg |
| 19:07.48 | Bounty | what a joke |
| 19:07.51 | Bounty | all the font styles |
| 19:07.53 | Bounty | are the same font |
| 19:07.57 | Bounty | just differant size and color |
| 19:07.58 | doite | Is there any way to make player 5 be able to move though a certain point, but not player 4? |
| 19:08.15 | Bounty | thats it i cant take it! |
| 19:08.19 | Bounty | First Bnet 2.0 |
| 19:08.22 | Bounty | Now |
| 19:08.22 | J-Man_ | something like "if parameter < 0 return -this_fuction(-parameter)" might be considered simple recursion |
| 19:08.25 | Bounty | No italic font!? |
| 19:08.27 | A1win | doite, not by pathing |
| 19:08.46 | doite | Ok Only triggers |
| 19:08.47 | doite | Thx |
| 19:09.02 | Demonette | Mmmhh yea... i'm not sure about this kind a stuff... looks weird to me... |
| 19:09.27 | A1win | doite, unless you make player 5 units flying and not player 4 :P but that would be very exclusive and limited |
| 19:09.27 | J-Man_ | what's the context? |
| 19:09.58 | J-Man_ | there should be italic fonts |
| 19:10.11 | Demonette | program a simple recursive and endrecursive and a interativ solution.... |
| 19:10.17 | Demonette | that what i have to do... |
| 19:10.25 | J-Man_ | for a class? |
| 19:10.32 | Demonette | in java... |
| 19:10.39 | Demonette | yea ... kind a homework =P |
| 19:10.45 | A1win | ah, this will be fun... terran turtling with sentries using force fields on ramps |
| 19:10.50 | J-Man_ | interativ? |
| 19:10.53 | J-Man_ | iterative? |
| 19:10.59 | J-Man_ | or interactive? |
| 19:11.07 | Demonette | iterative... |
| 19:11.11 | J-Man_ | ok |
| 19:11.20 | J-Man_ | let me see if i can think of an example |
| 19:11.29 | Demonette | i done it all... but someone said my simple recursion is and endrecursion... |
| 19:11.41 | Demonette | =/ and now i'm fucking unsure about it |
| 19:11.56 | Demonette | -d |
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| 19:12.37 | A1win | I think the "simple" there just means it should not be a complex solution :P |
| 19:12.46 | J-Man_ | i think my example is end recursion |
| 19:13.01 | J-Man_ | "if parameter < 0 return -this_fuction(-parameter)" |
| 19:13.30 | wOlfLinG | So i'm thinking of making a card game soon :) |
| 19:14.07 | Demonette | Wohoo a card game... i'm thinking about making an whole RPG =P |
| 19:14.08 | wOlfLinG | You pick a 'Hero' card. Then you have to kill the enemy hero and can make monsters and other things etc |
| 19:14.09 | J-Man_ | http://danzig.jct.ac.il/java_class/recursion.html |
| 19:14.25 | wOlfLinG | Demonette, i shall also make an RPG set in the same world :D |
| 19:14.46 | J-Man_ | "tail recursion" "tail call" and "end recusion" are all the same thing |
| 19:15.27 | Demonette | Mmhm thx J-Man |
| 19:16.40 | J-Man_ | hope that helps |
| 19:17.04 | Demonette | we will see. |
| 19:17.41 | J-Man_ | frankly i haven't studied the stuff in about 10 years, so.. |
| 19:18.32 | J-Man_ | i know what recursion is, but give a specific kind of recusion a name and it doesn't mean much to me |
| 19:19.04 | J-Man_ | i doubt it will matter much to you either after your class is over |
| 19:19.14 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 19:19.40 | Demonette | Yea... i pretty sure those different kinds of recursions are useless =P |
| 19:20.06 | Demonette | I have the feeling my solution are kind a right... i just get a little confused and worried about it |
| 19:20.08 | A1win | why'd they be useless :P |
| 19:20.15 | A1win | it's just not important to know them by name... |
| 19:20.24 | J-Man_ | there's true recusion and iterative recursion, those are the only things that matter |
| 19:20.31 | Demonette | Naming stuff always is useless =P |
| 19:20.39 | J-Man_ | not always |
| 19:20.46 | Demonette | espacially if you still don't know how it works XD |
| 19:20.46 | J-Man_ | you need to be able to call it something, right? |
| 19:20.58 | A1win | yeah, naming is for those losers who think working as a team is better than working individually ;3 |
| 19:21.05 | Demonette | XD |
| 19:21.16 | Demonette | Naming stuff is for humans =D |
| 19:21.22 | BorgDragon | holy fuck |
| 19:21.32 | BorgDragon | u would think finding a rainbow archon video/panel vid and info |
| 19:21.33 | BorgDragon | would be easy |
| 19:21.41 | BorgDragon | but scouring SC2Mapster and youtube comes up emptyu |
| 19:21.44 | J-Man_ | it is for humans, that's definitely true |
| 19:21.45 | BorgDragon | fucking punch me in the head |
| 19:22.24 | Demonette | yea mans need it to get ride of it to think about it... to get an abstract element... |
| 19:23.03 | Demonette | else it would be hard to work with it |
| 19:23.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~Christoph@uawifi-nat-210-24.arizona.edu) |
| 19:23.09 | Demonette | mmmhh |
| 19:23.14 | Demonette | so recursion XD |
| 19:25.27 | J-Man_ | recusion is definitely cool |
| 19:25.58 | Demonette | recursion itself is pretty simple |
| 19:26.26 | Demonette | Oh fuck... |
| 19:26.27 | Demonette | okay... |
| 19:26.37 | Demonette | my solution is a simple recursion |
| 19:26.38 | Demonette | done |
| 19:26.39 | Demonette | =D |
| 19:26.42 | Demonette | thx J-Man =P |
| 19:27.12 | BorgDragon | how does the portrait get the same actor messages |
| 19:27.15 | BorgDragon | as the unit actor |
| 19:27.23 | BorgDragon | when you cant even add actor messages to a portrait |
| 19:27.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster rrowland (~Ryan@pool-71-160-198-124.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 19:27.52 | Demonette | fuck the portrait and kill the actor =) |
| 19:28.23 | Dryeyece | Hard work pays off! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMB6bCOSd-E |
| 19:28.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster Hjalte (~chatzilla@cpe.ge-0-2-0-835.arcnqu2.customer.tele.dk) |
| 19:28.55 | BorgDragon | lol Demonette |
| 19:29.52 | Demonette | Whisky-nader-Launch? XD |
| 19:29.55 | Demonette | WTF XD |
| 19:30.09 | Dryeyece | the tooltip contains the whole name |
| 19:30.13 | Dryeyece | lol |
| 19:30.20 | Dryeyece | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.21 | Dryeyece | g |
| 19:30.41 | Demonette | I seen ;) |
| 19:30.44 | Demonette | nice ability |
| 19:30.45 | Dryeyece | Accelerators |
| 19:31.25 | BorgDragon | OMG |
| 19:31.27 | BorgDragon | if that's all it takes |
| 19:31.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster MysT_DooM (~MysT_DooM@ool-ad034e84.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:31.33 | BorgDragon | to tint a portrait... |
| 19:32.11 | Bounty | You know whats funny |
| 19:32.17 | Bounty | as soon as i learned how to do dialogues |
| 19:32.22 | Demonette | You have just tinted the acteur? |
| 19:32.30 | Bounty | everytime i see someones UI i think man that looks easy |
| 19:32.41 | Bounty | before i would look at peoples UI and go WTF!? HOW!? |
| 19:32.43 | Demonette | MAN THAT LOOKS.... mmmhh |
| 19:32.45 | Dryeyece | lol it wasnt |
| 19:32.49 | BorgDragon | nope, it didnt tint the portrait... |
| 19:33.01 | Bounty | im not sayin it was cake |
| 19:33.09 | Demonette | So you done what? |
| 19:33.10 | A1win | the only hard thing about making UI's is that you have to reload the map to see the changes :P |
| 19:33.12 | Dryeyece | im just learning the trigger editor |
| 19:33.14 | Bounty | im just sayin for me, after i learned how dialogues work |
| 19:33.29 | Bounty | i can look at UI and know how it was made lol |
| 19:33.32 | BorgDragon | oh great |
| 19:33.34 | BorgDragon | Editor crash |
| 19:33.35 | Bounty | or atleast know how to recreate it |
| 19:33.36 | BorgDragon | ... |
| 19:33.38 | Bounty | haha |
| 19:33.39 | Bounty | OWNED |
| 19:33.48 | Bounty | gotta love it |
| 19:33.49 | Demonette | Nice =D |
| 19:33.56 | Bounty | Let me guess Borg |
| 19:33.56 | Demonette | Pwnage! |
| 19:33.59 | Bounty | You had 4 hours of work |
| 19:34.03 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 19:34.03 | Bounty | and you did not save |
| 19:34.04 | BorgDragon | : |
| 19:34.06 | BorgDragon | :\ |
| 19:34.12 | Bounty | Read the EULA |
| 19:34.13 | Demonette | I think it wasn't 4 hours of work |
| 19:34.13 | Bounty | it says |
| 19:34.13 | BorgDragon | I hope I saved |
| 19:34.17 | Bounty | If you dont save after 4 hours |
| 19:34.20 | Bounty | The Editor will crash |
| 19:34.23 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 19:34.26 | Bounty | read it |
| 19:34.27 | BorgDragon | it wasnt 4 hours |
| 19:34.27 | Bounty | >< |
| 19:35.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~Christoph@uawifi-nat-210-16.arizona.edu) |
| 19:35.30 | Demonette | =P as i said =D |
| 19:35.44 | Bounty | ROFLROFLROFL |
| 19:35.45 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHrEHnd1Nag |
| 19:35.51 | Bounty | " |
| 19:36.06 | Bounty | "This character needs to be balanced... hes alittle overpowered" |
| 19:36.12 | BorgDragon | just awesome |
| 19:36.16 | Bounty | fucking owned the shit out of that boss |
| 19:36.19 | Bounty | in like 2 seconds |
| 19:36.20 | BorgDragon | i hate blizzard so much |
| 19:36.21 | Bounty | rofl |
| 19:36.45 | Dryeyece | lol |
| 19:36.55 | Dryeyece | he doesnt own him quite that fast anymoer lol |
| 19:36.55 | Demonette | a little overpowered... |
| 19:37.02 | Dryeyece | hes been tuned down a bit =p |
| 19:37.04 | Bounty | i know its just funny |
| 19:37.13 | Dryeyece | agreed |
| 19:37.20 | Bounty | like u didnt see it coming |
| 19:37.22 | Dryeyece | play the game!! |
| 19:37.24 | Bounty | "Oh... hes dead" |
| 19:37.27 | Bounty | "well then" |
| 19:37.29 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:37.31 | Demonette | You lost the Game! |
| 19:37.36 | Dryeyece | I didnt I was looking at a bunch of stuff |
| 19:37.58 | Dryeyece | making sure effects were timed right and the boss was behaving correctly wtc |
| 19:37.58 | Dryeyece | etc |
| 19:38.06 | BorgDragon | how does that make sense?? |
| 19:38.13 | Demonette | SENSY SENSE! |
| 19:38.15 | BorgDragon | Actor Creation -> Set Tint X |
| 19:38.21 | BorgDragon | Unit Portrait -> Set Tint Y |
| 19:38.24 | BorgDragon | I start the game |
| 19:38.27 | Demonette | Haha XD |
| 19:38.30 | BorgDragon | my unit is color X |
| 19:38.37 | BorgDragon | portrait remains default |
| 19:38.40 | Dryeyece | is there a flags field where you can set inherit properties? |
| 19:38.40 | Demonette | so it is event =) |
| 19:38.42 | BorgDragon | i move my unit, he becomes Color Y |
| 19:38.43 | Demonette | ? |
| 19:38.45 | Demonette | XD |
| 19:38.50 | BorgDragon | no, it's not tinting the portrait |
| 19:38.51 | Bounty | Dryeyece |
| 19:38.59 | Demonette | it's an event <.< |
| 19:39.00 | Bounty | You know you're map is not going to get played right? |
| 19:39.00 | Dryeyece | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.02 | BorgDragon | for some reason UnitPortait = Actor >< |
| 19:39.05 | Bounty | Not because its bad |
| 19:39.08 | Dryeyece | ive never tinted one so I dont know but thats where I would look |
| 19:39.10 | Bounty | But have you posted on forums at all? |
| 19:39.16 | Bounty | Your videos have such low views |
| 19:39.21 | Dryeyece | I have |
| 19:39.26 | Bounty | Which ones? |
| 19:39.27 | Dryeyece | I posted in the Map Review Forum |
| 19:39.27 | BorgDragon | only the other day though |
| 19:39.33 | Bounty | well thats one problem |
| 19:39.39 | Bounty | Post in project workplace :) |
| 19:39.47 | Bounty | and make a thread on the bnet custom map forums |
| 19:39.49 | Dryeyece | which thread? |
| 19:39.55 | A1win | I should probably start hyping my map as well :| |
| 19:39.56 | BorgDragon | theres a workplace forum? |
| 19:39.56 | Bounty | and make one on teamliquid custom map forums |
| 19:39.59 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 19:40.10 | Dryeyece | ty man i appreciate it, I was saying yesterday how little I knew about promoting |
| 19:40.11 | Bounty | yeah |
| 19:40.17 | Bounty | those 3 forums |
| 19:40.19 | Bounty | are all u need |
| 19:40.25 | Bounty | u will get shit loads of views |
| 19:40.26 | Bounty | >< |
| 19:40.31 | Bounty | np |
| 19:40.36 | Demonette | So who plays with me a bunch of matches? |
| 19:41.21 | BorgDragon | AHA! |
| 19:41.24 | BorgDragon | that better work |
| 19:41.27 | BorgDragon | or I punch a cat in the face |
| 19:41.48 | Demonette | Heheh |
| 19:41.53 | BorgDragon | .... Someone get me a cat :| |
| 19:41.56 | Demonette | dead kitten =) |
| 19:42.09 | Demonette | everytime one of my favorit dead animals =) |
| 19:42.46 | BorgDragon | ok, so that didn't work either |
| 19:43.38 | Demonette | =) |
| 19:43.53 | Demonette | So no matchy matches! |
| 19:43.54 | Demonette | =( |
| 19:44.11 | Demonette | So i have to do math -.- |
| 19:48.22 | Bibendus|AFK | mmm |
| 19:48.22 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 59 minutes 8 seconds |
| 19:48.28 | Bibendus | is mapster slowly dying? |
| 19:48.33 | Thorsell | Nah |
| 19:48.40 | Bibendus | low forum activity |
| 19:48.45 | Bibendus | even lower news activity |
| 19:48.54 | Thorsell | Yeah I think I've noticed that though |
| 19:48.59 | Bibendus | :| |
| 19:49.06 | Bibendus | sixen is mapster dying? |
| 19:49.11 | Thorsell | But I wouldn't say "dying" |
| 19:49.12 | Bounty | HAY BIBENDUS |
| 19:49.18 | Bibendus | maybe |
| 19:49.20 | Bibendus | its because |
| 19:49.24 | MysT_DooM | its karma |
| 19:49.25 | Bibendus | mapster stopped working on maps? |
| 19:49.25 | Thorsell | I've just come back |
| 19:49.29 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Vv0sEO1sc |
| 19:49.32 | Bibendus | mappers |
| 19:49.32 | Bounty | For You Bibbie |
| 19:49.35 | Bounty | lolol |
| 19:49.49 | Bibendus | cuz actually the popularity system sucks |
| 19:49.52 | Bibendus | i suppose that's the reason |
| 19:50.02 | Bounty | Hey |
| 19:50.05 | Bounty | damnit |
| 19:50.09 | Bibendus | FU |
| 19:50.10 | Bounty | watch my video and judge |
| 19:50.10 | Thorsell | Well people shouldn't stop making maps because of that |
| 19:50.11 | Bibendus | did u stretch |
| 19:50.11 | Bounty | mother fucker |
| 19:50.12 | Bibendus | the video? |
| 19:50.16 | Bounty | stretch? |
| 19:50.19 | Bibendus | ye |
| 19:50.22 | Bounty | its a new video |
| 19:50.23 | Bibendus | it seems to have the wrong aspect ratio |
| 19:50.26 | Bounty | no |
| 19:50.35 | Bounty | i didnt stretch it at all |
| 19:50.39 | Bibendus | the dark templar is too slim |
| 19:50.54 | Bounty | always been like that |
| 19:52.15 | Bibendus | lol |
| 19:52.21 | Bibendus | the guys that take damage |
| 19:52.25 | Bibendus | really do a weird song |
| 19:52.25 | Bibendus | xD |
| 19:52.34 | Bounty | huh? lol |
| 19:52.39 | Bounty | oh |
| 19:52.41 | Bounty | the UGH! |
| 19:52.42 | Bounty | ? |
| 19:52.52 | Bounty | they do that when they throw fireballs |
| 19:53.06 | Eiviyn | Bibendus what are you up to these days |
| 19:53.15 | Eiviyn | Not seen anything out of you since Corpses and Crush Company |
| 19:53.18 | Bibendus | they are taking dicks in their asses |
| 19:53.20 | Bibendus | i suppose |
| 19:53.21 | Thorsell | I would probably UGH! if I threw a ball of fire |
| 19:53.23 | Eiviyn | And I loved Corpses |
| 19:53.24 | Bounty | lolol |
| 19:53.29 | Bibendus | hiev keeper |
| 19:53.45 | Bibendus | i ll continue with them |
| 19:53.54 | Bibendus | when blizzard will fix the controls lag |
| 19:53.55 | Bounty | Crush Company has been in beta since before beta |
| 19:53.56 | A1win | do dynamic pathing fills go through doodad and unit footprints? |
| 19:53.56 | Demonette | Mmmhh |
| 19:53.58 | Demonette | bored |
| 19:54.06 | Bibendus | cuz i don't like to make |
| 19:54.16 | Bounty | Ok well |
| 19:54.24 | Bibendus | crush company v8.35 |
| 19:54.24 | Bounty | Judge mine |
| 19:54.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:54.29 | Bibendus | i ll release it as 1.0 |
| 19:54.32 | *** join/#sc2mapster s3rius (5c48ca33@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.72.202.51) |
| 19:54.33 | Bibendus | when all levels will be complete |
| 19:54.36 | Bounty | 8.35 wtf |
| 19:54.37 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:54.38 | Bibendus | and its a huge work |
| 19:55.07 | Bounty | So, thin templar |
| 19:55.11 | Bounty | thats all you got for me today? |
| 19:55.34 | Bibendus | eiviyn |
| 19:55.37 | Bibendus | actually i m working on that |
| 19:55.38 | Bibendus | http://img835.imageshack.us/f/screenshot2010102700154.jpg/ |
| 19:56.05 | Eiviyn | I smell dungeon keeper |
| 19:56.05 | Bounty | To much green |
| 19:56.10 | Bounty | and to much blockiness |
| 19:56.13 | Bounty | fix it |
| 19:56.20 | Bibendus | it is |
| 19:56.21 | Bibendus | :D |
| 19:56.25 | Bounty | also |
| 19:56.28 | Bounty | the hive should be a nexus |
| 19:56.29 | Eiviyn | Or some weird zerg orientated Minecraft |
| 19:56.36 | Bibendus | ye i tought to the nexus |
| 19:56.41 | Thorsell | :P |
| 19:56.45 | Bibendus | but the mind |
| 19:56.46 | Thorsell | MINECRAAAFT |
| 19:56.49 | Bibendus | gives more touch |
| 19:56.49 | Bibendus | :D |
| 19:56.50 | Eiviyn | Well it's underground, no? Not sure Protoss burrow |
| 19:56.59 | Bibendus | lol |
| 19:56.59 | BorgDragon | if its underground |
| 19:57.00 | Bounty | also |
| 19:57.01 | Bounty | the scv |
| 19:57.05 | Bibendus | zergs |
| 19:57.06 | Bibendus | are perfect |
| 19:57.07 | BorgDragon | flip the hive upside down, then raise its height |
| 19:57.07 | Bounty | should be a murloc marine |
| 19:57.09 | Bibendus | to make their dungeon |
| 19:57.10 | Bounty | err |
| 19:57.11 | Bounty | i mean drone |
| 19:57.15 | BorgDragon | so its sitting on the ceiling :P |
| 19:57.15 | Bounty | should be a murloc marine |
| 19:57.16 | Bibendus | and stupid marines coming to destroy them |
| 19:57.22 | Bibendus | stealing their vespene xD |
| 19:57.47 | Bounty | ok bibendus |
| 19:57.51 | Bounty | i expect those changes i listed |
| 19:57.53 | Bibendus | minecraft can't be done |
| 19:57.53 | Bounty | by 2morrow |
| 19:57.55 | Bibendus | or |
| 19:57.57 | Bibendus | it can be done |
| 19:58.04 | Bibendus | but with really low editable area |
| 19:58.14 | Bounty | There is no point in making minecraft in sc2 |
| 19:58.16 | Eiviyn | Think about it |
| 19:58.17 | Bibendus | bounty suck my huge dick! |
| 19:58.21 | Bounty | bc the real minecraft is already fucking free |
| 19:58.28 | Bibendus | ye |
| 19:58.28 | Eiviyn | The minecraft things use like, 16x16 pixel squares |
| 19:58.28 | Bibendus | tre |
| 19:58.30 | Bibendus | true |
| 19:58.32 | Bibendus | like making a dota |
| 19:58.35 | Bibendus | when there is league of legends |
| 19:58.38 | Bibendus | it's just stupid :D |
| 19:58.39 | Bounty | exactly |
| 19:58.44 | Eiviyn | sc2 uses 140x140 for most units |
| 19:58.45 | Bibendus | eiv |
| 19:58.47 | Bibendus | the problem |
| 19:58.54 | Bibendus | is the amount of variables that can be stored |
| 19:58.59 | Eiviyn | So scale everything down by about 3.5 times |
| 19:59.02 | Bibendus | the limit is something like 300k |
| 19:59.08 | Bibendus | AND |
| 19:59.12 | Bibendus | each array index counts... |
| 19:59.16 | Bibendus | so |
| 19:59.19 | Bibendus | 100x100x100 |
| 19:59.25 | Bounty | You know what i wanna make or see someone make |
| 19:59.27 | Eiviyn | What would you be saving? |
| 19:59.28 | Bibendus | = 1.000.000 |
| 19:59.30 | Bounty | a Disgaea type game |
| 19:59.34 | Bounty | using that sprite engine |
| 19:59.36 | Bounty | that someone made |
| 19:59.42 | Bibendus | just the properties of the tile |
| 19:59.44 | Eiviyn | Just wing it and make the world randomize every time you load a new match |
| 19:59.44 | Bounty | That would be cool |
| 19:59.52 | Bibendus | sprite = 2d |
| 19:59.53 | Bibendus | :D |
| 19:59.54 | Eiviyn | And build the game with that in mind |
| 20:00.00 | Bounty | yeah i know bib |
| 20:00.02 | Bibendus | 2d |
| 20:00.05 | Eiviyn | Since, yeah, making a minecraft copy would be silly since it already exists |
| 20:00.08 | Bounty | Disgaea mother fucker |
| 20:00.09 | Bibendus | 2d!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:00.10 | Bounty | do u know what it is |
| 20:00.10 | Bibendus | xD |
| 20:00.18 | Bibendus | just can't be done |
| 20:00.20 | Bounty | its a strategy game |
| 20:00.24 | Bounty | that uses 3d backgrounds |
| 20:00.25 | Bibendus | i could barely work on my DK map |
| 20:00.25 | Bounty | with sprites |
| 20:00.32 | Bibendus | and i m really near the variables limit |
| 20:00.32 | Bounty | mfer |
| 20:00.44 | Bibendus | because i have a 128x128x12 array |
| 20:01.02 | Bounty | My map is unique and original |
| 20:01.06 | Bounty | Except i just found out the other day |
| 20:01.12 | Bounty | The same game concept is in Fable |
| 20:01.14 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:01.15 | Bibendus | DOOM |
| 20:01.16 | Bibendus | xD |
| 20:01.16 | Bounty | so i guess its really not |
| 20:01.20 | Bibendus | 3d + sprites |
| 20:01.20 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:01.30 | Bounty | no man |
| 20:01.35 | Bounty | DISGAEA DID IT |
| 20:01.38 | Bounty | and it kicked ass |
| 20:02.22 | Eiviyn | What are you storing in that array? |
| 20:02.34 | Bounty | fried chicken |
| 20:03.14 | Bibendus | elv |
| 20:03.17 | Bibendus | the tiles properties |
| 20:03.25 | Bibendus | cuz u can't use soo many units |
| 20:03.34 | Eiviyn | Tried using custom values + behaviour stakcs? |
| 20:03.41 | Bibendus | can't use units |
| 20:03.43 | Bibendus | i just said it :D |
| 20:04.02 | Eiviyn | The unit cap is like 10k, surely there aren't more than 10k tiles? |
| 20:04.11 | Bibendus | they are |
| 20:04.12 | Bibendus | 128x128 |
| 20:04.21 | Bounty | there is a unit cap? |
| 20:04.24 | Bibendus | 16384 |
| 20:04.27 | Bibendus | even if there is a unit cap |
| 20:04.39 | Bounty | my crowd has 1400 peeps in it |
| 20:04.42 | Bibendus | a huge amount of units slows the game |
| 20:04.44 | Bibendus | too much |
| 20:04.57 | Eiviyn | sc2 caps out at around 100 |
| 20:05.04 | Bibendus | using doodads it becomes really faster |
| 20:05.08 | Bounty | apparenty 1400 loads of civilians doesnt slow the game down at all |
| 20:05.10 | Eiviyn | If they are attacking and using missiles, it caps out at around 50 |
| 20:05.13 | Bibendus | 1400 |
| 20:05.17 | Bibendus | i m talking about 16k |
| 20:05.18 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:05.22 | Bounty | well |
| 20:05.26 | Bounty | im talking about 1400 |
| 20:05.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:05.29 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:05.38 | Bounty | what r u making a grid? |
| 20:05.40 | Bounty | of units |
| 20:05.40 | Thorsell | lol |
| 20:05.42 | Bibendus | so elv |
| 20:05.45 | s3rius | Maybe wanna mod Left4Dead instead? :p |
| 20:05.46 | Bibendus | a grid of doodads |
| 20:05.51 | Bibendus | another one? |
| 20:05.56 | Dekar | 200 supply * 2zerglings * 12 players = lots of units it should be able to handle |
| 20:06.14 | Bibendus | 200 supply what? |
| 20:06.18 | Bibendus | what are u talking about guys :| |
| 20:06.18 | Dekar | max supply |
| 20:06.23 | Bibendus | thats not |
| 20:06.26 | Bibendus | a supply problem |
| 20:06.26 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:06.31 | Bounty | yeah |
| 20:06.31 | Dekar | dunno i just started reading somewher einbetween :D |
| 20:06.33 | Bounty | srsly guys |
| 20:06.34 | Bibendus | that's a slowgame problem |
| 20:06.36 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:06.38 | Bounty | wtf |
| 20:06.39 | Dekar | yeah but |
| 20:06.42 | Eiviyn | Zerglings are fine because they don't have attack animation actors or missiles |
| 20:06.52 | s3rius | @Dekar: There's no guarantee that the game can handle the maximum possible amount of units. Wc3 also couldn't do so. |
| 20:06.55 | Bibendus | shape cubes |
| 20:06.57 | Bibendus | are even better |
| 20:06.58 | Eiviyn | Put 400 marauders per 12 players and the game will just die |
| 20:07.02 | Bibendus | they don't even have animations |
| 20:07.04 | Bibendus | or polygons |
| 20:07.12 | Eiviyn | Cube shape has a stand anim |
| 20:07.13 | Bibendus | eiv |
| 20:07.19 | Eiviyn | An animated stand anim |
| 20:07.19 | Bibendus | the problem is not the amount of units in the monitor |
| 20:07.20 | Bibendus | because |
| 20:07.21 | Dekar | i think wc3 was able to handle over 100 per player |
| 20:07.24 | Bounty | HAY |
| 20:07.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster BorgDragon (~BorgDrago@24.138.168.211) |
| 20:07.31 | Bibendus | tiles are spread in the map |
| 20:07.31 | Bounty | what the hell is this conversation about |
| 20:07.34 | Bibendus | u dno't see them all together |
| 20:07.37 | Bibendus | the problem is that |
| 20:07.38 | Bounty | like what are you trying to do |
| 20:07.42 | Bibendus | units have many vars to store |
| 20:07.45 | Bounty | i can halp |
| 20:07.46 | Bibendus | AND dynamic pathing |
| 20:07.57 | Bibendus | that's a CPU problem |
| 20:07.59 | Bibendus | not GPU |
| 20:08.09 | Eiviyn | How many small tiles do you have per red editor square |
| 20:08.14 | Eiviyn | 16? |
| 20:08.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster MysT_DooM (~MysT_DooM@ool-ad034e84.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 20:08.37 | Dryeyece | Gnite veryone its bedtime for me |
| 20:08.46 | Dryeyece | thanks again Bounty |
| 20:08.51 | Bounty | no problem |
| 20:08.57 | Bounty | spread the word |
| 20:08.59 | Bounty | i do good |
| 20:09.04 | Bounty | everyday |
| 20:09.06 | Bounty | >< |
| 20:09.57 | Eiviyn | Why |
| 20:09.58 | Eiviyn | Does |
| 20:10.06 | Eiviyn | The editor just fail with beam attachments |
| 20:10.09 | Bibendus | red editor? |
| 20:10.26 | Sixen | Bibendus, you're dieing. |
| 20:10.39 | Eiviyn | If I make a search effect with a damage effect and link the caster to the target without using a weapon, half the time the beam just hits a random unit even if the damage effect hits the right one |
| 20:10.39 | Sixen | lol. why would mapster be dieing? |
| 20:10.39 | Bounty | Hes already dead to me |
| 20:10.58 | BorgDragon | OMG lol why did I not notice that already |
| 20:11.07 | Bounty | ?? |
| 20:11.11 | BorgDragon | when I added my model to rotate around my templar |
| 20:11.19 | BorgDragon | I never noticed before, but the shadows he creates when he moves |
| 20:11.22 | BorgDragon | also rotate... LOL |
| 20:11.31 | Bounty | why wouldnt they |
| 20:11.39 | Bounty | lol? |
| 20:11.41 | BorgDragon | they're supposed to be made and not spin |
| 20:11.47 | BorgDragon | they spin while being made lol |
| 20:11.49 | BorgDragon | it looks odd |
| 20:11.58 | Bounty | oo |
| 20:12.00 | Bounty | and btw |
| 20:12.01 | BDmon | lol |
| 20:12.04 | Bounty | I think mapster is dieng Sixen |
| 20:12.05 | Arthas- | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1290108899734.jpg |
| 20:12.09 | Bounty | i think its pretty obvious lol |
| 20:12.10 | Sixen | I think you're dieing, Bounty. |
| 20:12.16 | Bounty | im already dead |
| 20:12.19 | Sixen | :P |
| 20:12.20 | Bounty | inside |
| 20:12.24 | Arthas- | mapster aint dying :p |
| 20:12.27 | BDmon | lol |
| 20:12.28 | Sixen | The problem is Blizzard, there's nothing I can do about it |
| 20:12.30 | BorgDragon | lol Arthas- |
| 20:12.31 | Bounty | no but seriously |
| 20:12.32 | Bounty | yeah |
| 20:12.32 | Sixen | People don't want to make maps, I can't force them |
| 20:12.32 | BorgDragon | here's a good joke |
| 20:12.33 | Bounty | exactly |
| 20:12.35 | Bounty | during Beta |
| 20:12.38 | Bounty | Mapster was the shit |
| 20:12.40 | Sixen | well |
| 20:12.42 | Arthas- | shit? |
| 20:12.46 | BorgDragon | Why did Bella choose Edward over Jacob? |
| 20:12.48 | Sixen | Traffic is still 2.5x what it was during Beta :P |
| 20:12.54 | BorgDragon | Because Edward will go down on her no matter the time of month :P |
| 20:12.58 | Arthas- | :p |
| 20:12.59 | Bounty | and we all thought it was going to be that way until u we found out u cant lock ur map file lol |
| 20:13.01 | BorgDragon | ROFL |
| 20:13.16 | Bounty | idk about traffic |
| 20:13.19 | Bounty | but i know front page views |
| 20:13.22 | Bounty | are not waht they used to be |
| 20:13.32 | Bounty | its like old Howard Stern vs New Howard Stern |
| 20:13.37 | Arthas- | ofc not, not enough news to post :p |
| 20:13.45 | Bounty | u get a plug on the howard stern show in the 90's and get like 20 million hits |
| 20:13.51 | Bounty | now u would get like 1 million |
| 20:14.01 | Bounty | no but i mean |
| 20:14.04 | Bounty | ok |
| 20:14.11 | Bounty | i remember if a video was on front page |
| 20:14.16 | Bounty | it would get to atleast 5-6k easily in a day |
| 20:14.29 | Bounty | prolly more |
| 20:14.35 | Bounty | now its tough to get 4 |
| 20:14.44 | Bounty | Farmlings was up for like 8 days lol |
| 20:14.51 | Bounty | and only got like 4-5k |
| 20:14.56 | Arthas- | arent their real mapsites now for that stuff? |
| 20:14.57 | Sixen | lol |
| 20:15.01 | Arthas- | ie, sites posting maps |
| 20:15.06 | Arthas- | meanwhile mapster is a siter for mappers |
| 20:15.06 | Bounty | im not complaining |
| 20:15.11 | Bounty | im just sayin |
| 20:15.12 | BorgDragon | ohh I know why my move shadows are rotating |
| 20:15.18 | BorgDragon | i attached the turret to Origin |
| 20:15.21 | Bounty | i love mapster >< |
| 20:15.25 | BorgDragon | and my custom animation to origin |
| 20:15.28 | Bounty | BUT |
| 20:15.33 | Bounty | there is one thing that will always be true |
| 20:15.33 | BorgDragon | and shadows are also attached to origin |
| 20:15.44 | Bounty | Mapster will always be more active then the official bnet forums |
| 20:15.47 | Eiviyn | TeamLiquid threads get insane amounts of views if they are good |
| 20:15.48 | Bounty | ill tell u that shit right now |
| 20:15.57 | Demonette | mmmhh |
| 20:15.59 | Bounty | i always post on TL |
| 20:16.07 | Bounty | best way to promote |
| 20:16.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster SFA2MIKI (~minivan2k@adsl-75-26-176-40.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:16.19 | Bounty | TL = why doodad hunt got popular |
| 20:16.29 | Bounty | thread had like 30k views |
| 20:16.33 | Bounty | and 20 pages |
| 20:16.43 | Bounty | not sure why |
| 20:16.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:17.04 | Eiviyn | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147505 |
| 20:17.07 | Eiviyn | You mean this? |
| 20:17.08 | Eiviyn | 6 pages |
| 20:17.20 | Bounty | blow mw |
| 20:17.25 | Bounty | e |
| 20:17.28 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:17.30 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 20:17.55 | Bounty | how many views did it have? |
| 20:19.20 | Eiviyn | 9.4k |
| 20:19.24 | Bounty | 9,465 |
| 20:19.38 | J-Man_ | that's a couple |
| 20:19.52 | Bounty | seemed like alot more back in the day |
| 20:20.02 | Bounty | it was mostly bc it got to that point fast |
| 20:20.05 | Eiviyn | lol at the last 3 posts in that thread |
| 20:20.17 | Eiviyn | Clearly the guy doesn't know about popularity resets |
| 20:20.39 | Bounty | yeah he said i ruined it bc i made 4 maps on rotation |
| 20:20.43 | Bounty | bc somehow that was bad |
| 20:20.44 | Eiviyn | Or their latest invention; week long popularity locks if your map is on page 1 on a wed night reset |
| 20:21.09 | Eiviyn | At least the WHERE IS SOTIS posts make that part entertaining |
| 20:21.37 | Bounty | I am surprised my Map Request thread did not get more attention |
| 20:21.58 | Eiviyn | Non league related stuff dies easily on TL |
| 20:22.05 | Bounty | I requested the requesters to learn the fucking editor and stop asking people to waste their time on a map that even if someone made it, the person that request it would even play it! lol |
| 20:22.15 | Bounty | nah i posted it on bnet forums |
| 20:22.28 | Bounty | everyday |
| 20:22.38 | Bounty | "Can someone remake Super Gay Bar Madness from BW?" |
| 20:22.44 | Bounty | Honestly |
| 20:22.50 | Bounty | Have any of those threads succeeded? |
| 20:22.53 | Bounty | no |
| 20:24.22 | Ashamed | ergsz |
| 20:24.51 | BDmon | why does my sticky grenade explode on me (marauder) and no explosion on zerglings... ? |
| 20:25.10 | BDmon | i mean it explodes but no explode animation |
| 20:25.18 | BorgDragon | create a new actor |
| 20:25.21 | BorgDragon | call it Sticky Explosion |
| 20:25.22 | Bibendus | b |
| 20:25.24 | BorgDragon | in the events + field |
| 20:25.31 | Eiviyn | Make sure your attack actor is set to attach to your target and not implicit or caster |
| 20:25.33 | Bibendus | sixen |
| 20:25.35 | BorgDragon | have something like Effect.StickyDamage.Start -> Create |
| 20:25.40 | Eiviyn | Though Implicit usually works |
| 20:25.43 | Bibendus | because the activity on the forum and news |
| 20:25.45 | Bibendus | is decreasing |
| 20:25.58 | BorgDragon | implicit should be fine, if not _Selectable:implicit |
| 20:26.14 | BDmon | BorgDragon i done the one from ftbhrygvn on the WDE |
| 20:26.36 | BorgDragon | ur going off of his? |
| 20:26.43 | BDmon | ye just remade his |
| 20:26.47 | BorgDragon | ah k |
| 20:26.47 | BDmon | and it works |
| 20:26.53 | BDmon | but the explosion animation |
| 20:26.57 | BorgDragon | doesnt show up |
| 20:26.58 | BDmon | is only on structure or something |
| 20:27.01 | BDmon | not on zerglings |
| 20:27.06 | BDmon | i mean machenical |
| 20:27.10 | BorgDragon | ok |
| 20:27.20 | Demonette | From who is this doodad hidding zergling running around stuff? |
| 20:27.25 | BorgDragon | but it doesnt kill surrounding bio? |
| 20:27.35 | BDmon | yea it does |
| 20:27.38 | BDmon | but they just splat |
| 20:27.40 | BDmon | :P |
| 20:27.44 | BorgDragon | oh |
| 20:27.46 | BDmon | no explosion but sound works |
| 20:27.51 | BorgDragon | well like I said |
| 20:27.58 | BorgDragon | create an Actor, call it Explosion or whatever |
| 20:28.02 | BDmon | so something wrong at the explosion actor |
| 20:28.04 | BorgDragon | and in the events for the actor |
| 20:28.07 | BorgDragon | do like |
| 20:28.14 | BorgDragon | Effect.ExplosionDamage.Start -> Create |
| 20:28.23 | BorgDragon | Effect.ExplosionDamage.Stop -> Destroy |
| 20:28.26 | BDmon | i have that ye |
| 20:28.53 | BDmon | i got the SOpAttachOverhead set |
| 20:28.53 | BorgDragon | and it wont show up? |
| 20:28.57 | BDmon | well it does on me |
| 20:28.59 | BDmon | marauder |
| 20:29.02 | BDmon | kaboem |
| 20:29.03 | BorgDragon | ooh |
| 20:29.04 | BDmon | nice animation |
| 20:29.08 | BorgDragon | the animation plays on you, lol |
| 20:29.08 | BDmon | not on the zerglings |
| 20:29.12 | BorgDragon | not at target |
| 20:29.15 | BDmon | sure and thors, tanks |
| 20:29.33 | BDmon | its the machenical flag somewhere i think |
| 20:29.42 | BorgDragon | your mechanical flag |
| 20:29.49 | BorgDragon | doesn't control where an actor is created |
| 20:30.03 | Bounty | word |
| 20:30.05 | BorgDragon | Host + set to implicit |
| 20:30.17 | BorgDragon | same for Host For Properties + |
| 20:30.30 | Bounty | honestly man |
| 20:30.35 | Bounty | dont use data! |
| 20:30.36 | Bounty | :) |
| 20:30.41 | Bounty | its for nerds |
| 20:30.45 | BDmon | its part of the deal |
| 20:30.45 | BorgDragon | lol fuck you |
| 20:30.46 | BDmon | lol |
| 20:31.03 | BorgDragon | my SiteOps for the explosion |
| 20:31.04 | J-Man_ | data is generally the most efficient, isn't it? |
| 20:31.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster kaseano (~kaseano@ip98-160-252-240.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 20:31.08 | kaseano | hi |
| 20:31.09 | BorgDragon | is SOpShadow |
| 20:31.10 | Bounty | not really |
| 20:31.18 | Bounty | u can do everything u can do in data in triggers |
| 20:31.21 | Bounty | faster |
| 20:31.28 | BorgDragon | but its funner in the editor |
| 20:31.35 | Bounty | lol? |
| 20:31.40 | BorgDragon | data* |
| 20:31.44 | J-Man_ | if starcraft has the mechanism already programmed into it, data should be faster |
| 20:31.47 | Bounty | do you ejaculate from your brain? |
| 20:31.49 | Bounty | because i dont |
| 20:32.00 | BorgDragon | guess what Bounty? |
| 20:32.00 | Bounty | then i dont see how data editor is more fun |
| 20:32.03 | BorgDragon | BLOW ME |
| 20:32.06 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:32.07 | Bounty | touche |
| 20:32.09 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 20:32.17 | J-Man_ | i hate the data editor |
| 20:32.18 | BorgDragon | I enjoy the editor much more |
| 20:32.19 | BorgDragon | guess what |
| 20:32.23 | kaseano | funner* bounty |
| 20:32.27 | J-Man_ | but it's primarily because it's so porrly documented |
| 20:32.32 | BorgDragon | if you want to create a unit with like different attachments and shit through the trigger editor |
| 20:32.33 | BorgDragon | go ahead |
| 20:32.34 | Demonette | =S |
| 20:32.39 | Demonette | no helral today... |
| 20:32.44 | BDmon | got it |
| 20:32.45 | BorgDragon | but if it don't look right cause you can't see what's what, your prob :P |
| 20:32.49 | BDmon | had stasis flag on |
| 20:33.01 | BorgDragon | ahaha BDmon |
| 20:33.02 | Bounty | i thought funner wasnt a word lol |
| 20:33.04 | BDmon | hehe |
| 20:33.09 | BDmon | didnt know what that was |
| 20:33.12 | BDmon | not native english u know |
| 20:33.13 | BDmon | :P |
| 20:33.25 | BorgDragon | post a vid when ur done :P |
| 20:33.26 | Bounty | learn it |
| 20:33.29 | Bounty | this is america! |
| 20:33.33 | BorgDragon | no |
| 20:33.35 | kaseano | any1 know how to make a missile split into more missiles |
| 20:33.36 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:33.37 | BorgDragon | this is the internet |
| 20:33.38 | kaseano | been asking all week |
| 20:33.47 | kaseano | i think i'm close |
| 20:33.54 | BorgDragon | Create Persistent/Search Area |
| 20:33.56 | Bounty | oh cmon now borg |
| 20:34.09 | Bounty | we all know according to the constitution in america |
| 20:34.13 | Bounty | everything is america |
| 20:34.14 | BDmon | well look at ftbhrygvn's video :] |
| 20:34.14 | BorgDragon | i'm not american |
| 20:34.27 | BorgDragon | so you didn't tweak it BDmon? :S |
| 20:34.28 | Bounty | well then your not from earth |
| 20:34.29 | BDmon | its the same |
| 20:34.30 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 20:34.30 | BDmon | not yet |
| 20:34.32 | kaseano | BorgDragon create a persistent on the initial LM effect ? |
| 20:34.33 | BorgDragon | aah ok |
| 20:34.34 | BDmon | first wanted to get it working |
| 20:34.35 | BDmon | :D |
| 20:34.36 | Bounty | alien scum |
| 20:34.40 | A1win | is there a way to rotate a unit in the editor while you're placing it? |
| 20:34.43 | BDmon | i got some idea's |
| 20:34.50 | BorgDragon | well, you want it to split just once? |
| 20:34.58 | BorgDragon | Zerg and Protoss are alien |
| 20:34.58 | Bounty | double click it A1win |
| 20:35.03 | Bounty | and change its rotation |
| 20:35.05 | BorgDragon | I love playing them more than I like playing Terran Scum |
| 20:35.11 | A1win | Bounty, I mean before I place it :P |
| 20:35.19 | Bounty | oh |
| 20:35.22 | Bounty | idk |
| 20:35.30 | A1win | after I place it I can just select it and ctrl-click somewhere on the map, and it turns there |
| 20:35.30 | Bounty | why does it matter? |
| 20:35.41 | BorgDragon | thats what I'm wondering... |
| 20:35.43 | BorgDragon | why does it matter ? |
| 20:35.43 | kaseano | yeah like half way through the flight time. So the parent missile mover has a locked 3s flight time, at 1.5 I could have the persistent |
| 20:35.57 | A1win | would've been a bit faster to "decorate" an area if there was a simple way |
| 20:35.59 | BorgDragon | Ooh kaseano, so it doesn't split on impact? |
| 20:36.00 | kaseano | if I do it on the original LM tho, I lose the child missile's location |
| 20:36.08 | kaseano | no i wanted it to split half way through flight |
| 20:36.12 | BorgDragon | hmm |
| 20:36.25 | kaseano | I figured I'd need an effect on the parent missile and not the original LM effect |
| 20:36.36 | kaseano | but if I cast something from the parent missile, i lose that missile's target |
| 20:36.38 | Jum-Jum | what is it called when you do that sound with your fingers |
| 20:36.43 | kaseano | cus only the LM has the target |
| 20:36.45 | BorgDragon | tapping |
| 20:36.51 | Jum-Jum | tapping? |
| 20:36.55 | BorgDragon | finger tapping ? |
| 20:37.02 | BorgDragon | snap? |
| 20:37.05 | BorgDragon | snap your fingers |
| 20:37.05 | Bounty | I wish i had a female voice with an accent |
| 20:37.13 | Bounty | So i could have 16,997 views on my thread |
| 20:37.20 | kaseano | there's an operation 4 that bounty |
| 20:37.25 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 20:37.32 | BorgDragon | it involves repeated kicks to the groin |
| 20:37.36 | BorgDragon | until desired effect is reached |
| 20:37.39 | Bounty | Or |
| 20:37.47 | Bounty | just hire Eiviyn |
| 20:37.47 | BorgDragon | Or a voicebox scraper |
| 20:37.52 | Demonette | This is somehow like a game... |
| 20:37.59 | Demonette | oO |
| 20:38.02 | Demonette | weird... |
| 20:38.03 | BorgDragon | Bioshock, voicebox scraper |
| 20:38.11 | Bounty | The Catalyst thread is like the most viewed thread on mapster |
| 20:38.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:38.14 | BorgDragon | when you get to become a Big Daddy, try using one of those :P |
| 20:38.21 | Demonette | There is a pool of talking people |
| 20:38.27 | A1win | hmm... shift+mousewheel and ctrl+mousewheel are unused :o could bind cycling through variations and types to those.... |
| 20:38.32 | Eiviyn | And Catalyst was only out for 3 weeks, heh |
| 20:38.34 | curry-away | that's because catalyst comes up with every bloody search on mapster... |
| 20:38.37 | Demonette | and others joins by being invited into the inner talking circle... |
| 20:38.47 | Bounty | I disagree |
| 20:38.54 | BorgDragon | sends Demonette an invite |
| 20:38.55 | Bounty | I go with the female voice theory |
| 20:38.56 | curry-away | even if you search for something irrelevant to catalyst, there is it. |
| 20:39.01 | Bounty | I bet you anything |
| 20:39.03 | curry-away | it is* |
| 20:39.04 | Eiviyn | haha |
| 20:39.07 | Eiviyn | Victory! |
| 20:39.10 | Demonette | Lol |
| 20:39.11 | J-Man_ | ikr |
| 20:39.18 | Bounty | only 1k of the 16k are unique |
| 20:39.20 | Bounty | that means |
| 20:39.24 | J-Man_ | catalyst has like every possible thing tagged in it |
| 20:39.26 | Bounty | 1k people watched your video 16 times |
| 20:39.28 | Bounty | bc of your voice |
| 20:39.30 | Demonette | so i'm invited now? cause i said something... unfitting |
| 20:39.30 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:39.39 | Bounty | thats just my theory |
| 20:39.39 | Demonette | but interessting enough XD |
| 20:39.41 | BorgDragon | you seem lonely or something, lol |
| 20:39.46 | Demonette | Yea |
| 20:39.49 | BorgDragon | Stay a while and listen! |
| 20:39.49 | Jum-Jum | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U15U3IEBxA |
| 20:39.49 | Demonette | i'm always |
| 20:39.53 | BorgDragon | falls over |
| 20:39.54 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 20:40.01 | Eiviyn | Need to get some ingame voice acting |
| 20:40.13 | Demonette | Lol? |
| 20:40.14 | Demonette | why lol |
| 20:40.18 | Eiviyn | So people play the map instead of watching the video! |
| 20:40.21 | BorgDragon | LOL jum jum |
| 20:40.22 | BorgDragon | I love it |
| 20:40.27 | Bounty | Eivi |
| 20:40.34 | Bounty | you know that would work right? |
| 20:40.34 | Jum-Jum | the entire song is great |
| 20:40.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:40.38 | Bounty | thats the sick part |
| 20:40.39 | Jum-Jum | peeeeople equals shit |
| 20:40.41 | Bounty | it would actually work |
| 20:40.44 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbzJTTDO9f4&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 20:40.46 | Demonette | Mmmhh |
| 20:40.46 | Jum-Jum | *snaps with fingers* |
| 20:40.49 | Arthas- | that clip is epic |
| 20:40.52 | Arthas- | friggin cheaters |
| 20:40.53 | Bounty | instead of a text tutorial explaining what to do in your map |
| 20:40.58 | Bounty | just record yourself explaining it |
| 20:40.59 | J-Man_ | if you search for "goats", catalyst does not come up :) |
| 20:41.01 | Demonette | Think i like a little differnt stuff... |
| 20:41.03 | Bounty | +10 |
| 20:41.05 | A1win | err... why can't I bind stuff to mouse wheel <.< |
| 20:41.06 | BorgDragon | LOL J-Man |
| 20:41.10 | BorgDragon | did you go try that out?? :P |
| 20:41.12 | J-Man_ | but wth searches for goats on mapster? |
| 20:41.19 | Demonette | truly stuff you all didn't like =) |
| 20:41.35 | Bounty | Oh wow |
| 20:41.38 | BorgDragon | you mean music wise Demonette? |
| 20:41.40 | Bounty | If you search for "shit" |
| 20:41.42 | J-Man_ | if you search for "sexy", however, catalyst is #5 |
| 20:41.45 | Demonette | yea... music wise |
| 20:41.46 | Bounty | Blizzard DOTA comes up |
| 20:41.52 | Bounty | If you type "shit" in the search field |
| 20:41.53 | BorgDragon | eh, I doubt many ppl like what I really listen to |
| 20:41.53 | Demonette | well maybe also more then just music wise... |
| 20:42.20 | Demonette | but at the moment i only talked about music... |
| 20:42.30 | Demonette | even is nearly nobody is talking with me |
| 20:42.31 | Arthas- | awesome professor |
| 20:42.34 | J-Man_ | catalyst is down there if you search for shit |
| 20:42.45 | Demonette | Talking to myself seem to be an option... |
| 20:42.49 | Bounty | LOL |
| 20:42.49 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 20:42.51 | Bounty | Good eye J |
| 20:42.54 | Eiviyn | J-man_ http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/11297-release-catalyst/?page=39#p770 fixed |
| 20:43.00 | Bounty | its right next to monopoly |
| 20:43.03 | Bounty | lolol |
| 20:43.48 | Bounty | what the fuck |
| 20:43.50 | Bounty | even "sex" |
| 20:43.54 | Bounty | Catalyst pops up |
| 20:43.57 | Bounty | i fucking knew it |
| 20:44.03 | J-Man_ | not "tacos" tho |
| 20:44.10 | J-Man_ | no tacos in catalyst |
| 20:44.17 | Bounty | ROFL |
| 20:44.18 | Bounty | OFMG |
| 20:44.21 | Bounty | type in |
| 20:44.23 | Bounty | Blow Job |
| 20:44.23 | Eiviyn | I'll add a taco cannon then |
| 20:44.36 | Bounty | amazing |
| 20:44.38 | Eiviyn | ... |
| 20:44.40 | Eiviyn | What the hell |
| 20:44.43 | J-Man_ | mmmm... taco cannon |
| 20:44.48 | J-Man_ | that sounds delicious |
| 20:45.07 | *** part/#sc2mapster kaseano (~kaseano@ip98-160-252-240.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 20:45.12 | Thorsell | DAMN YOU |
| 20:45.12 | BorgDragon | i could get real fat off of a taco cannon... |
| 20:45.16 | Thorsell | I want food. |
| 20:45.21 | BorgDragon | im fucking hungry now |
| 20:45.22 | BorgDragon | damn you |
| 20:45.31 | J-Man_ | it shoots tacos that heal you :) |
| 20:45.35 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 20:45.35 | BorgDragon | no no |
| 20:45.35 | Eiviyn | Taco launch detected |
| 20:45.38 | BorgDragon | shoots taco's |
| 20:45.39 | J-Man_ | fan-freakin-taco-tastic |
| 20:45.42 | BorgDragon | that icnreases unit Scale |
| 20:45.42 | Bounty | why the hell is catalyst the first thign that pops up if blow job is searched |
| 20:45.44 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 20:45.50 | Bounty | thats what i dont get |
| 20:45.50 | J-Man_ | hahahaha |
| 20:45.53 | BorgDragon | bounty, why the fuck would you search Blow Job ? |
| 20:45.57 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 20:45.59 | Bounty | I'm testing |
| 20:46.03 | Eiviyn | This so isn't fair |
| 20:46.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:46.18 | BorgDragon | it probably finds Blow or Job |
| 20:46.20 | J-Man_ | what's not fair? |
| 20:46.24 | Bounty | also |
| 20:46.30 | Bounty | just as i suspected |
| 20:46.31 | Thorsell | I want a taco cannon |
| 20:46.36 | J-Man_ | that every time we search to figure out how to do somehting, we get your forum thread? |
| 20:46.38 | Bounty | Sexy Voice returns Catalyst as number one |
| 20:46.42 | Eiviyn | haha |
| 20:46.48 | Bounty | Because every page prolly has that |
| 20:46.52 | Bounty | fuck |
| 20:46.56 | Bounty | someone kick me in the balls |
| 20:46.59 | Bounty | its some to advertise |
| 20:47.02 | Bounty | time* |
| 20:47.03 | BorgDragon | you ready for that surgery? |
| 20:47.06 | Bounty | yes |
| 20:47.07 | J-Man_ | yeah, i'm still a little stuck on the taco cannon too |
| 20:47.10 | BorgDragon | excellent! |
| 20:47.13 | Bounty | lets do it |
| 20:47.14 | J-Man_ | i don't think there's a taco model tho |
| 20:47.15 | Bounty | DO IT |
| 20:47.18 | Thorsell | Hmm |
| 20:47.22 | BorgDragon | walks up to bounty and starts kicking him in the groin repeatedly |
| 20:47.25 | Thorsell | is there anything resembling taco? |
| 20:47.33 | Eiviyn | scv |
| 20:47.38 | Bounty | ~8ball did that hurt? |
| 20:47.39 | purl | No. |
| 20:47.39 | BorgDragon | Port Junkers |
| 20:47.43 | Bounty | LOL |
| 20:47.44 | Thorsell | :P |
| 20:47.46 | BorgDragon | Port Junkers, rotate on their axis |
| 20:47.49 | J-Man_ | i'd search, but i'd probably just end up finding the catalyst thread |
| 20:47.51 | BorgDragon | could look like tacos |
| 20:47.55 | Thorsell | BALLS OF STEEL |
| 20:47.55 | BorgDragon | not evefn fucking joking |
| 20:48.12 | Thorsell | Hmm I guess they could be tinted |
| 20:48.15 | Bounty | corruptors look like semen |
| 20:48.15 | BorgDragon | just stretch out the y axis |
| 20:48.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105) |
| 20:48.17 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 20:48.23 | BorgDragon | you dont need to tint port junkers |
| 20:48.25 | Thorsell | And named tacos |
| 20:48.26 | BorgDragon | they already yellow |
| 20:48.29 | Bounty | omfg |
| 20:48.29 | Thorsell | ah |
| 20:48.30 | Bounty | I GOT IT |
| 20:48.33 | Bounty | HUSH |
| 20:48.36 | Eiviyn | Do port junkers have team colours? |
| 20:48.38 | Bounty | someone has to make this map |
| 20:48.39 | BorgDragon | A-BYE |
| 20:48.40 | Bounty | you ready? |
| 20:48.43 | BorgDragon | no, I dont think so Eiv |
| 20:48.48 | J-Man_ | i think we could make a whole game around taco cannons :) |
| 20:48.55 | Bounty | Make a giant zerg egg at the top of the map |
| 20:49.01 | Bounty | and everyone plays as a corruptor |
| 20:49.06 | Thorsell | LOL |
| 20:49.09 | Bounty | the object is to swim to the egg |
| 20:49.12 | BorgDragon | LOL |
| 20:49.18 | Thorsell | I'm more into tacos |
| 20:49.19 | BorgDragon | blizzard would ban it |
| 20:49.23 | Bounty | why? |
| 20:49.25 | Bounty | dude |
| 20:49.28 | Bounty | that map exists |
| 20:49.29 | BorgDragon | innuendo, lol |
| 20:49.32 | Bounty | in SC1 |
| 20:49.40 | Thorsell | IN YOUR END-o |
| 20:49.44 | BorgDragon | SC1 they didn't have all their 'we host it, its our' bullshit |
| 20:49.54 | Bounty | just call it "Life" |
| 20:49.55 | Bounty | or something |
| 20:49.58 | BorgDragon | LOL |
| 20:50.06 | Thorsell | :P |
| 20:50.19 | Thorsell | No BorgDragon, make the taco cannon |
| 20:50.27 | Thorsell | custom unit |
| 20:50.28 | Eiviyn | Does catalyst come up if you search for taco cannon? |
| 20:50.32 | BorgDragon | I prefer taco cannon. I'm going to build a REAL taco Cannon |
| 20:50.37 | BorgDragon | not one in game |
| 20:50.46 | BorgDragon | and I'm going to use taco's as it's Ammo Unit |
| 20:50.46 | Thorsell | maybe a siege tank model firing those port junkers |
| 20:50.50 | BorgDragon | it will be GLORIOUS |
| 20:50.51 | J-Man_ | i can't find port junkers |
| 20:51.01 | BorgDragon | campaign dependencies |
| 20:51.13 | J-Man_ | unit? |
| 20:51.21 | BorgDragon | hmm lemme check |
| 20:51.31 | Bounty | man |
| 20:51.36 | Thorsell | It should be possible to set that model as a projectile right? |
| 20:51.37 | Bounty | someone needs to make that map i jsut said |
| 20:51.42 | Thorsell | Would be awesome |
| 20:51.47 | Bounty | u know that recent terrain exercise? |
| 20:51.49 | Bounty | underwater? |
| 20:51.51 | Bounty | use that |
| 20:51.57 | Bounty | as the terrain type |
| 20:52.07 | Bounty | and tint all the corruptor light gray |
| 20:52.22 | Bounty | i really think im onto something here |
| 20:52.23 | J-Man_ | oh ok |
| 20:52.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster Saeris1 (~Saeris@c-76-126-227-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:52.37 | Bounty | 20 bucks says if Eiviyn made that map |
| 20:52.42 | Thorsell | J-Man are you actually going to make a taco cannon? |
| 20:52.43 | Bounty | It would have like 20k games per hour |
| 20:52.46 | BorgDragon | damnit whats it called |
| 20:52.48 | BorgDragon | it looks like a mule |
| 20:52.53 | BorgDragon | but doesn't have the "closed arms" look |
| 20:52.57 | J-Man_ | it wouldn't fit in my game at all |
| 20:52.57 | BorgDragon | so it's like a U |
| 20:53.12 | BorgDragon | yes Thorsell, you can set anything as a projectile basically |
| 20:53.17 | BorgDragon | shoot a portrait for all I care |
| 20:53.17 | J-Man_ | port junkers? |
| 20:53.20 | Thorsell | Anything? |
| 20:53.23 | Thorsell | ANYTHING? |
| 20:53.26 | BorgDragon | practically ANYTHING |
| 20:53.27 | Thorsell | A rock? |
| 20:53.29 | BorgDragon | haven't you seen the video |
| 20:53.32 | Arthas- | hahaha |
| 20:53.33 | Thorsell | No. |
| 20:53.37 | BorgDragon | of a battlecruiser launching BUnkers ? |
| 20:54.02 | Bounty | thats it fine |
| 20:54.02 | BorgDragon | as bullets? |
| 20:54.02 | Thorsell | LOL |
| 20:54.02 | Bounty | im making the map |
| 20:54.02 | Bounty | right now |
| 20:54.02 | J-Man_ | i've seen a carrier launch pheonixes |
| 20:54.02 | Bounty | and im publishing it 2night |
| 20:54.02 | Bounty | on US |
| 20:54.02 | Bounty | now the question is |
| 20:54.02 | J-Man_ | with taco cannons? |
| 20:54.02 | Bounty | what should the obstacles be? |
| 20:54.08 | onetwo | lol |
| 20:54.08 | Bounty | that block your path to the mighty egg |
| 20:54.15 | onetwo | call it Britney Spears |
| 20:54.20 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:54.21 | Thorsell | What if it launches chicken |
| 20:54.25 | J-Man_ | STDs? |
| 20:54.31 | Bounty | nah i dont want it to get banned |
| 20:54.32 | Bounty | i told u |
| 20:54.35 | Bounty | its going to be called Life |
| 20:54.37 | onetwo | gotta watch out for STDS while swimming to the egg |
| 20:54.38 | onetwo | WAIT |
| 20:54.40 | onetwo | sorry guys |
| 20:54.41 | onetwo | STI's |
| 20:54.43 | onetwo | my bad |
| 20:54.51 | onetwo | everyone calm down, it was my bad |
| 20:54.51 | J-Man_ | well, the only obsticle in RL is other sperm |
| 20:54.56 | Arthas- | "It'll be open for 51 hours, that's it. Those are the hours you get to do the make up exam. I don't care what's on your schedule. I don't care what you've planned. If you have to give birth, you're going to give birth in the exam room." :D |
| 20:54.57 | J-Man_ | it's a race |
| 20:55.12 | Thorsell | :P |
| 20:55.37 | J-Man_ | it could be a maze race |
| 20:55.39 | onetwo | brb |
| 20:55.42 | Bounty | ok |
| 20:55.45 | J-Man_ | make the walls kindof soft looking |
| 20:55.45 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 20:55.48 | Bounty | and how about this for the music |
| 20:55.56 | J-Man_ | afternoon delight? |
| 20:56.01 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrwQPtxR36M |
| 20:56.23 | Bounty | lololol |
| 20:56.23 | J-Man_ | sky rockets in flight... |
| 20:56.48 | BorgDragon | found it! |
| 20:56.51 | BorgDragon | Unit - Port Junker |
| 20:57.10 | Bounty | or how about this |
| 20:57.11 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzAb_K71HQg |
| 20:57.14 | onetwo | and when you reach the egg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE0WmzYjchs |
| 20:57.25 | J-Man_ | borg: i thought we established that |
| 20:57.30 | Bounty | lol nice onetwo |
| 20:57.50 | BorgDragon | JMan |
| 20:57.53 | BorgDragon | i thought you couldn't find it |
| 20:57.55 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 20:58.08 | J-Man_ | oh sorry, yeah i found it |
| 20:58.08 | onetwo | well bounty go make it! |
| 20:58.13 | Bounty | i will |
| 20:58.18 | onetwo | lets hope its more successful than my chilean miner map idea |
| 20:58.19 | Bounty | im working on Win the Crowd right now |
| 20:58.24 | BorgDragon | ah kk |
| 20:58.29 | Bounty | that map will only take like an hour to make though |
| 20:58.29 | BorgDragon | well, they look a little metallic, but |
| 20:58.33 | BorgDragon | feed your Thor |
| 20:58.36 | Bounty | im not gonna put any time into it |
| 20:58.38 | BorgDragon | those Mecha-Tacos |
| 20:58.38 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:58.42 | BorgDragon | shot by the Mecha-Taco Cannon |
| 20:58.50 | J-Man_ | with the right scale it could be made to look taco-like |
| 20:58.51 | onetwo | haha |
| 20:58.52 | onetwo | afk |
| 20:59.24 | Bounty | ok guys |
| 20:59.32 | Bounty | this is the last song idea i have |
| 20:59.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster Jyggaa (ordog@unaffiliated/jygga) |
| 20:59.38 | Bounty | for the sperm game |
| 20:59.40 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-otEdq-Ozo |
| 20:59.58 | BorgDragon | god damn |
| 21:00.03 | BorgDragon | if your map has mario music in it |
| 21:00.10 | BorgDragon | i'll fucking never play it :\ |
| 21:00.11 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 21:00.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:00.22 | BorgDragon | but |
| 21:00.25 | BorgDragon | i guess it would be fitting |
| 21:00.33 | BorgDragon | Ctrl+S |
| 21:00.56 | Thorsell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.07 | J-Man_ | yes? |
| 21:01.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~Christoph@uawifi-nat-210-24.arizona.edu) |
| 21:03.03 | *** join/#sc2mapster Cintiq (~cintiq@219-90-225-253.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 21:03.04 | Demonette | Dieses Auge blickt so tief.... |
| 21:05.34 | Arthas- | Bounty that theme makes me think of that cheating penguin |
| 21:05.36 | Arthas- | CURSE HIM |
| 21:05.40 | Bounty | Ok so |
| 21:05.46 | Bounty | i thought of another feature to the game |
| 21:05.51 | Bounty | add a force field in the middle |
| 21:05.56 | Bounty | that will play the part of the condom |
| 21:05.59 | Ashamed | like starwars |
| 21:06.01 | Bounty | and you have to break it |
| 21:06.08 | Bounty | to reach the egg |
| 21:06.14 | Arthas- | so a female condom? |
| 21:06.19 | Bounty | no |
| 21:06.19 | Arthas- | whatever they are called |
| 21:06.21 | Ashamed | bounty i bet your sperm game gets banned |
| 21:06.26 | Bounty | no shit |
| 21:06.32 | Bounty | when i make it |
| 21:06.37 | Bounty | its only going to take like |
| 21:06.37 | Ashamed | i dunno if you keep it educational |
| 21:06.38 | Bounty | 30 mins |
| 21:06.40 | Bounty | at the max |
| 21:06.42 | Arthas- | also any modeler here? I want a japanese schoolgirl |
| 21:06.47 | Ashamed | and like really how the body works |
| 21:06.47 | Bounty | well |
| 21:06.49 | Arthas- | The infestors tentacles will be great |
| 21:06.51 | Bounty | im going to call it LIFE |
| 21:06.52 | Ashamed | they might not have a case against you |
| 21:06.54 | Bounty | lololol |
| 21:06.56 | Arthas- | + if you can do entire family |
| 21:06.57 | Arthas- | ie |
| 21:06.59 | Arthas- | lil girl |
| 21:07.01 | Arthas- | mum |
| 21:07.02 | Arthas- | dad |
| 21:07.04 | Arthas- | etc :> |
| 21:07.09 | Bounty | ok so |
| 21:07.13 | Arthas- | banned4life |
| 21:07.17 | Bounty | use the a giant infestor tentacle |
| 21:07.20 | Bounty | wait what |
| 21:07.25 | Bounty | can i get banned forever? |
| 21:07.31 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:07.38 | Ashamed | bounty i am telling you |
| 21:07.39 | JManV | i beleive its map-by-map |
| 21:07.44 | Ashamed | there is a way to create that |
| 21:07.47 | Ashamed | and not get in trouble |
| 21:07.47 | JManV | but don't quote me |
| 21:07.48 | Megalon | so, i have an awesome idea for a map: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK_CKtYCRIc |
| 21:07.57 | Megalon | now i only need models of a turtle and a kitten |
| 21:08.29 | Ashamed | making a map on how our bodies work is not against the rules by any means |
| 21:08.44 | Ashamed | now if you say like you gotta FUCK that cunt to get her prego |
| 21:08.49 | Bounty | can they ban me from uploading maps forever though? |
| 21:08.50 | Ashamed | then your map will be banned |
| 21:08.59 | Ashamed | but you can make a great defense type game |
| 21:09.04 | Arthas- | new nisch! |
| 21:09.11 | Arthas- | The father is also the girls brother! |
| 21:09.15 | Bounty | i was only going to make it as a joke |
| 21:09.25 | Bounty | i cant waste to much time, still gotta finish Win the Crowd |
| 21:09.28 | Pierrot | I think i just got my backstab syqstem ,working |
| 21:09.28 | Bounty | fuck it |
| 21:09.33 | Bounty | its not worth it |
| 21:09.33 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:09.46 | Arthas- | We can have Thorsell upload it |
| 21:09.51 | Arthas- | play it safe ya know |
| 21:10.02 | Thorsell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:10.05 | Thorsell | Arthas |
| 21:10.08 | Arthas- | Oh hi |
| 21:10.12 | Thorsell | what the hell are you talking about?? |
| 21:10.12 | Arthas- | Didnt see you there |
| 21:10.13 | Thorsell | Incest? |
| 21:10.17 | Arthas- | Well |
| 21:10.21 | Thorsell | Tentacle hentai? |
| 21:10.22 | Arthas- | incest is a banned word so no |
| 21:10.33 | Megalon | then you mean family love |
| 21:10.38 | Arthas- | Yes |
| 21:10.39 | Arthas- | like christmas |
| 21:10.46 | Megalon | a game for the whole family |
| 21:10.47 | Thorsell | o___________________________________o |
| 21:10.49 | Megalon | so nice |
| 21:10.56 | Arthas- | We have to few of those maps :) |
| 21:11.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster kaseano (~kaseano@ip98-160-252-240.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 21:13.58 | doite | Guys i have done a variable (Region) that ive set the variable = region 1, region 2, region 3 (up 2 60 regions) |
| 21:14.01 | doite | Then i have |
| 21:14.02 | Demonette | mmmhh |
| 21:14.08 | Demonette | hi Arthas- |
| 21:14.11 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.36 | doite | But i dont think the regions are visibale anyway |
| 21:14.46 | Arthas- | hi Demonette |
| 21:14.49 | doite | Its in a pick each player loop |
| 21:15.02 | Demonette | What did you done to Helral? ^^ why isn't he online? |
| 21:15.12 | Arthas- | no clue |
| 21:15.19 | Demonette | damn |
| 21:15.39 | doite | Guys please |
| 21:17.32 | A1win | are there some invisible LOS blocker things? |
| 21:19.07 | doite | Talking to me? |
| 21:19.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demonette_ (584da42a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.77.164.42) |
| 21:19.38 | JManV | so if i wanted to sort units in a unit group, i need to do that manually, don't i? |
| 21:20.22 | Pierrot | It is official ! I love Helral |
| 21:20.24 | Thorsell | ARTHAS |
| 21:20.28 | Thorsell | http://www.tv4play.se/nyheter_och_debatt/nyheterna_varmland?title=badhuset_tar_form&videoid=1136216 |
| 21:20.34 | Thorsell | look at this |
| 21:20.49 | Thorsell | that guy who talks and stuff |
| 21:20.51 | Thorsell | the reporter |
| 21:21.06 | Thorsell | it's Wallah on 8th Symphony :P |
| 21:21.13 | A1win | doite, nah just thought I'd need those myself |
| 21:22.41 | doite | Why is the reporter semi naked.. |
| 21:22.55 | doite | Anywho! God damn it this revealer doesnt work.. |
| 21:23.12 | Thorsell | doite |
| 21:23.21 | doite | mm |
| 21:23.26 | Thorsell | they're building new pools |
| 21:23.33 | Thorsell | and a bathhouse |
| 21:23.53 | Thorsell | What's wrong with your revealer? |
| 21:24.11 | doite | O really, so when they talk about "vatten sänkningar" their actually just talking about the tempeture? |
| 21:24.13 | doite | =) |
| 21:24.26 | Thorsell | ;) |
| 21:24.42 | Thorsell | hit me |
| 21:24.47 | Thorsell | broken revealer |
| 21:24.53 | Thorsell | what's up with it |
| 21:24.57 | A1win | doite, is that Picked player thing inside a "pick all players in player group" or something? |
| 21:25.22 | doite | yea |
| 21:25.31 | A1win | and are the players in the player group? |
| 21:25.41 | doite | i think so.. |
| 21:25.45 | JManV | i actually names a variable "picked player"... because i'm stupid |
| 21:25.47 | doite | Dont make me confused mr! |
| 21:26.06 | doite | Maybe.. |
| 21:26.09 | doite | No thats not it |
| 21:26.12 | doite | I really dont know |
| 21:26.21 | A1win | are you sure you have set the variable before doing the reveal? |
| 21:26.44 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.49 | doite | up to 60 |
| 21:27.00 | doite | Do i have to mix with the array of the variable? |
| 21:27.13 | doite | set it to 60? |
| 21:27.15 | *** join/#sc2mapster MunkE (ad4e78cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.78.120.204) |
| 21:27.30 | MunkE | hi |
| 21:27.41 | doite | The variable is of a region kind btw |
| 21:27.42 | doite | Hi |
| 21:28.15 | JManV | what's the problem? |
| 21:28.15 | Pierrot | Any EU players who want to help me test my Backstab ability ? |
| 21:28.24 | MunkE | ok, question: I am trying to use the SC2 map editor, but i dont know what to do |
| 21:28.45 | MunkE | how do i make it work? |
| 21:29.30 | A1win | doite, paste the whole trigger into http://paste.sc2mapster.com/ ;p |
| 21:30.01 | Thorsell | Pierrot, I might be interested in some testing |
| 21:30.07 | Pierrot | Yeah ! |
| 21:30.16 | Pierrot | you are welcome |
| 21:30.18 | Thorsell | if it doesn't take too long |
| 21:30.19 | A1win | MunkE, mmh... that's a big question :P maybe you should try by some simple terrain editing? |
| 21:30.26 | Pierrot | 3-6 minutes |
| 21:30.31 | Thorsell | will you send me the map or do you have it uploaded? |
| 21:30.31 | JManV | hmm... so i'm going to need to hack this quick sort algorithm to bits if i want it to sort a unit group... |
| 21:30.38 | Pierrot | just give me quick feedback |
| 21:30.42 | Thorsell | ok |
| 21:30.46 | Pierrot | I m uploading it |
| 21:30.52 | Thorsell | made it work now? =) |
| 21:31.01 | MunkE | i did make a map just a melee map with no triggers, but i don't know how to make it analyse it |
| 21:31.23 | A1win | analyse? |
| 21:31.42 | A1win | I've only seen someone making a third party melee map analyzer, it's not a part of the editor |
| 21:31.42 | doite | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/2873/ |
| 21:31.59 | A1win | doite, umm |
| 21:32.03 | Pierrot | Pierrot.341 |
| 21:32.03 | A1win | that's not an array o: |
| 21:32.09 | Thorsell | on it |
| 21:32.10 | A1win | doite, you're setting the same variable 60 times :P |
| 21:32.14 | Pierrot | Come on EU Players We need you |
| 21:32.18 | Pierrot | quick action map |
| 21:32.19 | doite | No |
| 21:32.21 | A1win | doite, so it ends up being Light9 and nothing else |
| 21:32.21 | doite | Check |
| 21:32.31 | JManV | what's the problem doite? |
| 21:32.33 | doite | Then next trigger |
| 21:32.35 | doite | Well |
| 21:32.42 | doite | Ok ill explain: |
| 21:32.47 | doite | I have 60 regions |
| 21:32.56 | A1win | doite, you only have Light9 in the "Regions View" variable |
| 21:32.58 | doite | Every region should be revearled for the players |
| 21:33.02 | doite | What? |
| 21:33.04 | doite | No its not? |
| 21:33.08 | doite | Or.. |
| 21:33.08 | A1win | yes it is :P |
| 21:33.09 | doite | Is it? |
| 21:33.12 | doite | NO! |
| 21:33.20 | doite | Dont say i have to array 60 |
| 21:33.25 | JManV | why are they all the same variable? |
| 21:33.26 | doite | Then 1=light 1 |
| 21:33.29 | A1win | you do ;p |
| 21:33.32 | doite | ,, |
| 21:33.40 | JManV | you can add a region to a region |
| 21:33.46 | A1win | hmm true |
| 21:33.48 | Pierrot | Ok im hosting now |
| 21:33.52 | doite | What does that mean? |
| 21:33.54 | A1win | doite, make a new region variable |
| 21:33.58 | doite | Ok.. |
| 21:34.03 | A1win | then do Add Light 1 to regionvariable |
| 21:34.07 | A1win | Add Light10 to regionvariable |
| 21:34.11 | A1win | Add Light11 to regionvariable |
| 21:34.12 | A1win | etc. |
| 21:34.17 | A1win | and then just reveal regionvariable |
| 21:34.22 | JManV | yeah, that |
| 21:34.24 | A1win | (make it global so you can use it in another trigger) |
| 21:34.25 | doite | Ill try |
| 21:34.29 | doite | It will take some time |
| 21:34.41 | A1win | bit less than setting the array :P |
| 21:34.41 | doite | So |
| 21:34.45 | JManV | right now, you have one variable, and you're setting it to a different region over and over |
| 21:34.46 | doite | I dont need the array? |
| 21:34.55 | doite | Array = .. well nothing? |
| 21:35.00 | JManV | once all that code is ran, it's only going to contain the last region you set |
| 21:35.06 | A1win | if you do it with the region variable and add all those regions to it, then you don't need an array |
| 21:35.06 | JManV | you don't *need* an array |
| 21:35.21 | JManV | you can do it with or without an array, depending on how you need to deal with the regions |
| 21:35.40 | A1win | doite, right now you first set the Regions View to be "Light1", then you set it to be "Light10" (overwriting what it was), then you set it to "Light11" and so on |
| 21:35.42 | JManV | if you want to deal with all of the regions collectively, just add them all to a single region variable |
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| 21:35.59 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.03 | doite | Like that`? |
| 21:36.06 | JManV | yes |
| 21:36.07 | doite | 60 times? |
| 21:36.08 | doite | K |
| 21:36.12 | JManV | unfortunately, yes |
| 21:36.15 | doite | Thanks guys |
| 21:36.21 | JManV | no prob |
| 21:36.48 | kaseano | i'm rly stumped on something |
| 21:36.55 | kaseano | i'm trying to make a missile fire from another missile mid flight |
| 21:37.21 | kaseano | I created a persistent on the initial LM effect, to fire off the 2nd LM after x amount of time |
| 21:37.43 | kaseano | it actually worked and fired from the parent missiles origin, but instead of firing at the target it shot back at the caster |
| 21:37.55 | JManV | awesome |
| 21:38.08 | JManV | double-edged missle |
| 21:38.11 | kaseano | I tried to attach the 2nd LM to the first w a generic attack too but then it stopped appearing at |
| 21:38.12 | kaseano | haha |
| 21:38.20 | kaseano | this just sucks duno wtf is going on |
| 21:38.30 | BDmon | hehe |
| 21:38.32 | BDmon | nice one |
| 21:38.54 | JManV | sorry, data editor is my kryptonite |
| 21:38.55 | BDmon | maybe something with targets there, caster/owner etc |
| 21:39.04 | BDmon | ye not too good myself :| |
| 21:39.14 | kaseano | yeah I duno i've been changing them around all day trying to get it to work |
| 21:39.19 | kaseano | I feel like i'm shooting in the dark tho |
| 21:39.27 | BDmon | but i made a vortex bomb, sticky grenade which opens up vortex then explodes the whole lot :D |
| 21:39.36 | kaseano | nice |
| 21:39.45 | BDmon | funny |
| 21:40.11 | A1win | someone should make a vortex teleport so that it sucks you in from one vortex and throws out from another o: |
| 21:40.40 | BDmon | ye nice |
| 21:40.42 | BDmon | possible |
| 21:41.20 | A1win | dunno how practical it'd be though |
| 21:41.27 | BDmon | well u mean u can make a portal or stationairy portals |
| 21:42.10 | BDmon | u know portal from half-life 2? |
| 21:42.11 | A1win | was thinking of some kind of an ability to move your units / enemies |
| 21:42.14 | A1win | yea ;p |
| 21:42.18 | BDmon | that was nice |
| 21:43.02 | A1win | I played it through with a friend so that one controlled movement with keyboard and the other used the mouse to turn and shoot |
| 21:43.11 | A1win | it was surprisingly easy when we got the hang of it :P |
| 21:43.55 | BDmon | lol |
| 21:43.56 | A1win | apart from a few accidental falls into the abyss because the other turned the mouse suddenly near an edge... |
| 21:44.05 | BDmon | ah yea |
| 21:44.11 | BDmon | it was headspinning for sure |
| 21:44.17 | doite | I got an error now |
| 21:44.19 | doite | :( |
| 21:44.24 | BDmon | man i made some funny maps where u kept falling from hole to hole |
| 21:44.30 | doite | Saying parameter in region was wrong |
| 21:44.31 | JManV | a vortex that warps enemy units back to their base :) |
| 21:44.38 | BDmon | and had to turn all ways to make second portal :P |
| 21:44.49 | A1win | hehe |
| 21:45.08 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/video/portal/ |
| 21:45.15 | Dustin|Laptop | Someone quick, go make a Portal Map for SC2! |
| 21:45.17 | JManV | any red x's in your triggers, doite? |
| 21:45.46 | doite | Now i have |
| 21:45.46 | doite | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/2874/ |
| 21:45.51 | doite | no |
| 21:46.20 | JManV | which one is failing? |
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| 21:46.50 | JManV | the first trigger or the second? |
| 21:46.54 | doite | dont know |
| 21:46.57 | doite | Oh |
| 21:46.58 | doite | First |
| 21:47.02 | JManV | ok |
| 21:47.03 | doite | I think.. |
| 21:47.05 | doite | Let me check |
| 21:47.15 | BDmon | cool ;] |
| 21:47.36 | doite | yea |
| 21:47.43 | doite | its the lightning trigger |
| 21:47.46 | BDmon | haha the tetris is funny |
| 21:47.52 | doite | Parameter value 0 something |
| 21:48.55 | JManV | i think that means the first parameter to one of those function calls |
| 21:48.55 | doite | The variable is a region variable |
| 21:49.06 | JManV | region views? |
| 21:49.11 | doite | Yea |
| 21:49.16 | doite | Thats the variable |
| 21:49.42 | JManV | all of the other ones are valid regions on the map? |
| 21:49.50 | doite | juoo |
| 21:49.53 | doite | jupp |
| 21:50.15 | JManV | you're sure? |
| 21:50.23 | doite | what is a invalid region? |
| 21:50.36 | Thorsell | like a parking space |
| 21:50.41 | Thorsell | whith the weelchair |
| 21:50.43 | JManV | well, if it's in the value field, its not invalid |
| 21:50.48 | Thorsell | invalid region |
| 21:51.14 | JManV | ha |
| 21:51.15 | A1win | :P |
| 21:51.18 | doite | ill check |
| 21:51.19 | JManV | not quite thor |
| 21:51.37 | JManV | you manually went through and set all those? |
| 21:51.42 | A1win | is the value set as an empty region or "no region"? |
| 21:51.47 | A1win | if it's "no region", you can't add to it |
| 21:52.08 | Thorsell | well |
| 21:52.11 | Thorsell | bedtime |
| 21:52.14 | Thorsell | cya guys |
| 21:52.16 | Thorsell | bye |
| 21:52.39 | JManV | is LightXX a variable or a value? |
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| 21:53.14 | doite | http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2370/screenshot2010111822512.jpg |
| 21:53.15 | doite | There |
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| 21:53.21 | doite | thats the error |
| 21:53.27 | doite | And a sneak peak of the map! |
| 21:53.56 | A1win | doite, what's the Region View variable set as? |
| 21:54.09 | doite | region |
| 21:54.13 | A1win | not the type, value |
| 21:54.21 | JManV | the initial value |
| 21:54.33 | doite | .. |
| 21:54.39 | JManV | try empty region. i beleive the default is no region |
| 21:54.50 | Bibendus|AFK | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDL-baUskfc&feature=sub |
| 21:54.50 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 29 minutes 4 seconds |
| 21:54.52 | doite | Yes it is |
| 21:54.54 | Bibendus | HD featured facility17 |
| 21:54.57 | doite | So how do i change again?= |
| 21:55.05 | JManV | double click on it |
| 21:55.17 | doite | Yea but |
| 21:55.21 | doite | Theres no empty |
| 21:55.22 | A1win | select it and double click initial value, or click the "link" at the bottom |
| 21:55.24 | doite | Anywhere |
| 21:55.25 | A1win | doite, it's a function |
| 21:55.26 | JManV | or you can change the first line of your region code to a set variable instead of an add |
| 21:55.45 | JManV | set region view to Light1 |
| 21:55.51 | JManV | add Light2 to region view |
| 21:55.55 | doite | Ok |
| 21:55.56 | JManV | and so on... |
| 21:55.58 | doite | Now its empty |
| 21:56.05 | JManV | ok, test that |
| 21:57.10 | A1win | maybe I shoud close the editor when the best change I managed to do within like half an hour was rotate a couple of preplaced units because they were facing the same direction as the unit next to them and it looked too copy-paste |
| 21:57.28 | A1win | ...and the players probably won't even see those units before they move :< |
| 21:58.08 | JManV | someitmes you just need to walk away :) |
| 21:58.18 | JManV | play a game or something |
| 21:58.33 | JManV | sometimes us map editors actually play the game |
| 21:58.37 | A1win | hehe |
| 21:58.38 | JManV | not often... but sometimes |
| 21:59.04 | JManV | don't forget to close your editor tho, because the game sucks if you leave the editor open |
| 21:59.31 | doite | Awesome |
| 21:59.33 | doite | Works great! |
| 21:59.39 | JManV | glad we could help |
| 21:59.41 | A1win | if not counting WoW, I've probably spent like 2-3 times more time making maps than playing games <.< |
| 21:59.51 | onetwo | so true a1win |
| 22:00.01 | onetwo | if only we could make wow maps |
| 22:00.01 | onetwo | haha |
| 22:00.10 | JManV | i've played like 1000 games, so i'm not sure i could say the same |
| 22:00.18 | A1win | hehe |
| 22:00.18 | JManV | and i just started map editing |
| 22:00.22 | JManV | but recently... |
| 22:00.32 | JManV | i've started to develop quite teh bonus pool |
| 22:00.46 | JManV | 200+ points in my most played category |
| 22:00.49 | A1win | I started map editing for some games in 1998 or so :P and maybe sooner on friends' computers |
| 22:00.57 | onetwo | i honestly played like 5-10 games of melee since editor came out |
| 22:01.04 | onetwo | i was all for HD/huksy, team liquid, melee etc |
| 22:01.05 | onetwo | then editor came out |
| 22:01.07 | onetwo | byebye that world |
| 22:01.10 | JManV | i beleive that onetwo |
| 22:01.22 | A1win | first some small games, then WCII, SC, Half-Life (with many mods), WCIII, HL2 |
| 22:01.24 | JManV | especially with all the tutorials you put out |
| 22:01.31 | onetwo | thats time consuming too |
| 22:01.35 | onetwo | and since school started |
| 22:01.36 | JManV | much thanks btw |
| 22:01.36 | onetwo | ive been slow |
| 22:01.38 | onetwo | np |
| 22:02.09 | JManV | a lot of us couldn't have gotten into this without you |
| 22:02.39 | onetwo | most of my original work came from sc2mapster/bifuu |
| 22:02.40 | onetwo | lol |
| 22:02.51 | onetwo | aside from TD stuff i knew from war3 |
| 22:02.56 | JManV | you still doing the RPG thing? |
| 22:03.15 | A1win | I feel tempted starting some more complex project after this one's finished... |
| 22:03.16 | onetwo | in theory yes |
| 22:03.19 | onetwo | on paper i havent done a thing in a while |
| 22:03.21 | JManV | in theory :) |
| 22:03.29 | JManV | RPGs are involved |
| 22:03.31 | onetwo | yeah |
| 22:03.32 | JManV | i'm learning that |
| 22:03.34 | onetwo | especially with data |
| 22:03.35 | onetwo | editor |
| 22:03.42 | JManV | i was thinking i'd keep it simple |
| 22:03.47 | JManV | even simple is involved |
| 22:03.55 | onetwo | yep |
| 22:04.03 | JManV | yeah, i haven't even gotten to abilities yet |
| 22:04.06 | onetwo | simple requires perfection but complex can be buggy |
| 22:04.08 | JManV | i've made like 2 |
| 22:04.21 | A1win | I'm not sure about an RPG in a game where you can't save your progress :e |
| 22:04.28 | onetwo | dude abilities is what hung me up for 3 months |
| 22:04.37 | onetwo | 5 heroes * 7 abils * 10 levels per abil = like 700 effects |
| 22:04.38 | onetwo | or w/e |
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| 22:04.43 | JManV | you can save your progress |
| 22:04.51 | onetwo | my RPG saves on the fly so you cnat cheat |
| 22:04.56 | A1win | in multiplayer too? :E |
| 22:04.58 | JManV | but you can also edit and duplicate it freely :( |
| 22:04.59 | onetwo | aside from replacing your bank file iwth someone elses |
| 22:05.02 | onetwo | yeah |
| 22:05.23 | JManV | yeah, mine will actually save 80+ units per player |
| 22:05.25 | A1win | oh right it reads it from the host computer? |
| 22:05.37 | JManV | about to test it on BNet and see what the limits are |
| 22:05.42 | JManV | yeah |
| 22:05.46 | A1win | neat |
| 22:05.59 | onetwo | i save the hero in a string |
| 22:06.01 | onetwo | really messy trigger |
| 22:06.04 | onetwo | lol |
| 22:06.08 | JManV | me too |
| 22:06.17 | JManV | i have hireling that save too tho |
| 22:06.28 | JManV | but i only save 4 data points about those |
| 22:06.35 | JManV | unit, life, energy, health |
| 22:06.37 | JManV | 5 |
| 22:06.38 | JManV | experience |
| 22:07.02 | JManV | i haven't gotten to saving items yet... what a nightmare |
| 22:07.15 | JManV | i'm still not sure i'm going to do items... i don't like the way they work |
| 22:07.22 | JManV | the hotkeys suck |
| 22:07.29 | doite | Ive done alittle trigger here.. |
| 22:07.31 | onetwo | lol |
| 22:07.32 | doite | Again |
| 22:07.41 | doite | When a unit enters a region |
| 22:07.50 | doite | His boolean variable sets to true |
| 22:08.04 | JManV | i figured out i can get numpad 0,1,2, and 3 to healing items, and even stack them... but it still sucks |
| 22:08.05 | doite | If boolean[1] +[2] = true.. close gate |
| 22:08.07 | doite | BUT |
| 22:08.18 | doite | if player enters region gate |
| 22:08.23 | JManV | boolean[1] + [2]? |
| 22:08.24 | doite | set boolean = flase |
| 22:08.27 | doite | Yea player 1 and 2 |
| 22:08.31 | doite | Array 2 |
| 22:08.54 | doite | set boolean[triggering player]==true |
| 22:08.59 | doite | So if player 1 enters |
| 22:09.05 | doite | = true for [1] |
| 22:09.07 | doite | And so on |
| 22:09.16 | doite | But my problem is |
| 22:09.20 | JManV | i don't get it |
| 22:09.25 | doite | Well |
| 22:09.29 | doite | You start in forest |
| 22:09.35 | JManV | first of all, does your boolean variable have a real name? |
| 22:09.41 | doite | Then u run over bridge and though a gate |
| 22:09.48 | doite | Variable name is close gate |
| 22:09.51 | JManV | ok |
| 22:09.55 | doite | Then u run though gate |
| 22:10.06 | doite | Then over a hill and when u reach hill theres a region |
| 22:10.23 | JManV | ok |
| 22:10.25 | doite | When player enters region: Set Closegate[triggering player]==true |
| 22:10.30 | JManV | ah |
| 22:10.48 | JManV | when all of those are true, physically close the gate? |
| 22:10.54 | doite | If: closegate[1]==true (same with [2]): Then do action |
| 22:10.58 | doite | Yes |
| 22:10.59 | doite | BUT |
| 22:11.01 | doite | The problem is |
| 22:11.06 | doite | That since its 2 people |
| 22:11.20 | doite | I dont want it to close if player 1 runs into the hill region |
| 22:11.25 | doite | then runs back though gate |
| 22:11.31 | A1win | if: closegate[1] == true AND closegate[2] == true then close gate |
| 22:11.33 | doite | then player 2 runs to hill reigon |
| 22:11.43 | doite | Yes the gate thing works=) |
| 22:11.50 | doite | Not the issue |
| 22:11.55 | doite | The issue is to not lock one player out |
| 22:12.14 | JManV | so player 1 goes through the gate, then goes back, the player 2 goes through the gate and it closes |
| 22:12.14 | doite | So |
| 22:12.14 | A1win | why would it? |
| 22:12.14 | JManV | that's what you don't want, right? |
| 22:12.14 | doite | Yes |
| 22:12.14 | A1win | if you only close it when both players are at the hill |
| 22:12.33 | JManV | you'll probably need another region on the other side of the gate |
| 22:12.38 | JManV | that clears the closegate flag |
| 22:12.42 | doite | Listen listen |
| 22:13.12 | A1win | yeah you need to set the closegate boolean back to false if a player goes through the gate back to the other side |
| 22:13.36 | doite | In theory, we have a stupid player that runs though gate... then runs up on "hill" so his variable goes true, then back though the gate.. then player 2 runs up on hill and his variable goes true = closes gate and player 1 is outside |
| 22:13.39 | doite | I do NOT want that |
| 22:13.40 | doite | SO.. |
| 22:13.42 | A1win | you could even put those regions right next to the gate on its sides |
| 22:13.44 | doite | wait for it |
| 22:13.52 | doite | I have a nother region at the gate |
| 22:14.14 | doite | If player enters region = sets gateclose[triggering player]==false |
| 22:14.15 | doite | BUT |
| 22:14.45 | doite | I get an error.. probably becouse variable is false from begining and when he enters it.. it goes false x 2 |
| 22:14.54 | A1win | 1) player 1 goes to hill, closegate[1] = true, 2) player 1 goes back to the wrong side of the gate, closegate[2] = false, 3) player 2 goes to the hill, closegate[2] = true (but gate doesn't close since closegate[1] is false) |
| 22:15.09 | JManV | you can set a variable to false if it's already false |
| 22:15.14 | JManV | your error is something else |
| 22:15.25 | doite | Ok |
| 22:15.27 | doite | Ill checlk |
| 22:15.46 | JManV | that, i think, is the root of your problem |
| 22:16.17 | JManV | well, the timeclock is ringing, it's time to stop goofing off at work and start goofing off at home |
| 22:16.53 | JManV | bbl |
| 22:17.13 | doite | http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/668/screenshot2010111823161.jpg |
| 22:17.31 | doite | Gate = the false thing |
| 22:17.36 | onetwo | looks cool |
| 22:18.10 | doite | Well the why i u se every light? |
| 22:18.15 | doite | Its 60 regions |
| 22:18.18 | A1win | doite, what's the array size? |
| 22:18.21 | doite | 2 |
| 22:18.33 | doite | since it sets player 1 = 1 |
| 22:18.35 | A1win | and what does the trigger do? |
| 22:18.48 | A1win | I mean what exactly does it do |
| 22:18.49 | doite | The gate one sets boolean to false |
| 22:18.52 | A1win | copypaste or something :P |
| 22:18.53 | doite | Nothing else |
| 22:18.54 | doite | K |
| 22:19.03 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.09 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.10 | doite | Thats it |
| 22:19.16 | A1win | see |
| 22:19.20 | A1win | triggering player is nothing |
| 22:19.27 | A1win | you need to use owner of (triggering unit) |
| 22:19.32 | doite | Trigger.. |
| 22:19.34 | doite | Really? |
| 22:19.38 | A1win | mm |
| 22:19.40 | doite | Ok |
| 22:19.41 | BDmon | anyone ever had a model where its at the edge of the selection circle, instead of the center? |
| 22:19.42 | doite | Ill truy |
| 22:19.55 | A1win | it's an event response to a unit, not a player |
| 22:20.59 | doite | Nope same error |
| 22:21.03 | doite | And the player thing works |
| 22:21.16 | doite | Becouse when i run up the hill |
| 22:21.18 | doite | Gate closes |
| 22:21.26 | doite | If i disable Gate[2]==true |
| 22:21.42 | A1win | are you sure the unit you're controlling belongs to player 1 or 2? |
| 22:22.04 | A1win | and that any other player's unit can't enter the region |
| 22:22.18 | doite | Well not yet |
| 22:22.21 | doite | When the gate closes |
| 22:22.27 | doite | Sequence.. scary scary |
| 22:22.30 | doite | Then spawn |
| 22:23.28 | doite | So no other players |
| 22:23.44 | doite | I dont know .. well i COULD erase the trigger |
| 22:23.55 | doite | Since i mean,, what idiot runs outside the gate again |
| 22:24.07 | doite | The hill is 15 seconds from the gate |
| 22:24.09 | A1win | so you now have Variable - Set Gate[(Owner of (Triggering unit))] = false ? |
| 22:24.28 | doite | I changed it back to player |
| 22:24.34 | A1win | well don't ;p |
| 22:24.43 | doite | Since when i run up the hill (in the close gate trigger) the gate closes |
| 22:24.46 | doite | I know it works |
| 22:24.50 | A1win | ._x |
| 22:24.52 | doite | But i did try |
| 22:24.54 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 22:25.02 | A1win | mmh could be it's set automatically then, dunno |
| 22:25.09 | doite | Its np |
| 22:25.12 | doite | Thx anyway |
| 22:25.32 | doite | I actually have a BIG question left, but i dont think anyone wants to help me with that one |
| 22:28.45 | curry-away | big question how? |
| 22:31.55 | DarkRevenant | ... |
| 22:31.58 | wOlfLinG | :( I just lost the game! |
| 22:32.03 | DarkRevenant | thats odd |
| 22:32.05 | DarkRevenant | I just won it |
| 22:32.06 | wOlfLinG | Also, THE CAKE IS A PIE! |
| 22:33.34 | wOlfLinG | Galxy code sucks :(. I can't get it to divide by 0! |
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| 22:35.29 | doite | Big question in the sence of that i want to alter a library, and i dont know how |
| 22:35.35 | doite | do i quite much need a step by step |
| 22:35.51 | doite | First i want to get this hero selection thing working |
| 22:40.14 | curry-away | oh |
| 22:40.40 | curry-away | well having not done anything with libraries myself, I dunno how to help on this one =( |
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| 22:45.01 | A1win | hmm I'm tempted to make a small survival arena map where you control a reaper or something and the arena starts filling with enemies, you can kite them and micro at cliffs etc. but eventually there will be too many... goal is to beat your previous record ;p |
| 22:46.00 | DarkRevenant | i'm tempted to make a map that should have broken the 2MB script limit seven times over |
| 22:46.06 | DarkRevenant | but is still A-Okay |
| 22:46.14 | DarkRevenant | oh wait |
| 22:46.16 | DarkRevenant | I already did |
| 22:48.12 | A1win | hehe was wondering how I could make it so that enemies have individual LOS, so that if their friends see you on upper cliff, they wouldn't... solution: change the owner of the untis when they move on different cliff height :3 |
| 22:48.35 | A1win | *cliff level |
| 22:48.51 | BDmon | can u attach 2 models to each other? |
| 22:49.16 | BDmon | its for an item i want a little hologram beamer underneath :P |
| 22:49.28 | A1win | I think so ;p |
| 22:49.31 | A1win | just no idea how |
| 22:52.19 | doite | Nope hero selection was 2 hard |
| 22:52.24 | curry-away | hehe |
| 22:52.37 | curry-away | i do my own.. even as nice as that hero select lib looks |
| 22:52.53 | doite | Well even if i have a tutorial up |
| 22:52.58 | doite | I guess it would take to long |
| 22:53.07 | curry-away | ah |
| 22:53.18 | doite | I just want a simple 3 units to choose from |
| 22:53.46 | curry-away | i know one of those hero select lib (or the hero select lib if there's only one) causes some problems with a trigger I have to get around some of the item shop stupid-ness |
| 22:53.57 | curry-away | so I make my own |
| 22:54.06 | curry-away | hero selects are easy =| |
| 22:54.34 | curry-away | my current map uses a morph/train ability to choose hero |
| 22:54.41 | curry-away | otherwise use dialogs |
| 23:02.57 | A1win | hmmm customizable spells and abilities instead of hero selection... :x |
| 23:03.54 | A1win | something like WoW glyphs but multiple for each spell |
| 23:04.59 | A1win | so each spell/ability has a number of slots you can fill with stuff you buy with a resource (skill points you get every level for example) |
| 23:05.29 | BorgDragon|AWAY | WOOT WDE#2 is up |
| 23:05.35 | BDmon | nice :] |
| 23:05.39 | BorgDragon | hell ya |
| 23:05.54 | BorgDragon | Give an Overseer a custom weapon, but scalable in respect to other units |
| 23:06.00 | BorgDragon | so no "super" weapons |
| 23:06.05 | BorgDragon | but it can be anything you want |
| 23:07.14 | A1win | creep ball! |
| 23:07.19 | A1win | leaves a trail of creep behind |
| 23:07.23 | A1win | :P |
| 23:07.26 | BDmon | hehe |
| 23:07.48 | curry-away | that'd be cool.. it's attacks leave a debuff that spread creep from the target |
| 23:07.52 | curry-away | ;) |
| 23:07.59 | A1win | hmm :> |
| 23:08.15 | BorgDragon | hmmm |
| 23:08.19 | BorgDragon | damn that's pretty cool :P |
| 23:08.22 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 23:08.24 | curry-away | so an upgrade to the overlords "spawn creep" ability |
| 23:08.24 | BorgDragon | however! |
| 23:08.34 | BorgDragon | ya, would be kinda redundant tho |
| 23:08.38 | curry-away | i suppose |
| 23:08.42 | curry-away | but overseers lose the ability.. |
| 23:08.46 | curry-away | =( |
| 23:08.50 | BorgDragon | that's the sacrifice you must make |
| 23:08.58 | A1win | also, it's supposed to be a waepon, not ability |
| 23:08.59 | curry-away | only to get that damn annoying stun for bldgs |
| 23:09.07 | A1win | *weapon |
| 23:09.09 | BorgDragon | it can be made into a weapon |
| 23:09.11 | curry-away | i didn't say it was an ability |
| 23:09.18 | A1win | yeah but it should act like one too :P |
| 23:09.21 | BorgDragon | that applies a debuff like curry said |
| 23:09.22 | curry-away | it would... |
| 23:09.27 | curry-away | the weapon would apply a debuff |
| 23:09.29 | curry-away | ;) |
| 23:09.30 | BorgDragon | why wouldn't it? |
| 23:09.38 | A1win | yeah just saying |
| 23:09.40 | BorgDragon | deals damage to target, leaves a debuff, spawns creep for 10 seconds |
| 23:09.45 | BDmon | borg link? |
| 23:09.51 | BorgDragon | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/15005-weekly-data-exercise-2-overseer-weapon/ |
| 23:09.55 | curry-away | ie: overseer shoots creep balls, and deal dmg + creep spreading debuff |
| 23:10.11 | BorgDragon | I already have something planned anyways :P |
| 23:10.16 | BorgDragon | but I like the creepball idea |
| 23:10.20 | BorgDragon | my Uber Infestor |
| 23:10.26 | BorgDragon | has a creep spawning ability |
| 23:10.33 | A1win | well maybe I'll try the creep ball myself o: |
| 23:10.34 | BorgDragon | that isnt tied to anything |
| 23:11.05 | curry-away | ah cool |
| 23:11.19 | A1win | hmm |
| 23:11.19 | BorgDragon | haha I wish that it wasn't really tied to something lol |
| 23:11.24 | curry-away | well, i'm no good with the de when it comes to making custom abilities =( |
| 23:11.26 | BorgDragon | just a bunch of invisible somethings :P |
| 23:11.34 | curry-away | though i'll be needing to make a few here soon |
| 23:11.37 | A1win | what if it's like changeling but moves burrowed on the ground |
| 23:11.51 | A1win | a "unit weapon" like brood lord has |
| 23:12.08 | A1win | so you can shoot it if you can detect it |
| 23:12.54 | A1win | then it unburrows at your feet and infects you with "creep tumor" :P |
| 23:13.20 | curry-away | hehe |
| 23:13.26 | curry-away | alright, time to get ready for work.. |
| 23:13.30 | BorgDragon | anways |
| 23:13.36 | BorgDragon | im diving right in |
| 23:16.19 | BorgDragon | too bad OVerseer's have shit animations |
| 23:16.25 | BorgDragon | and it has attachments for weapons |
| 23:16.27 | BorgDragon | but no animations |
| 23:17.02 | A1win | hey you know how you can see pink elephants in WoW if you get drunk in what was that zone again... anyway, would be cool to have a debuff that makes you see pink ultralisks running around or something |
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| 23:18.01 | A1win | a buffed stimpack... which as a few side effects :P |
| 23:18.56 | ThunderLord | Anyone know the Exact dimentions of a players Starcraft II screen? like if i wanted a dialog item or screen image to literally cover their screen corner to corner what X and Y dimentions whould i give it? |
| 23:19.26 | A1win | 1600x1200, but it's wider on widescreen |
| 23:19.33 | ThunderLord | hummmm |
| 23:19.35 | ThunderLord | soo |
| 23:19.42 | A1win | but if you set it wider, then players who have no widescreen won't see it all |
| 23:19.53 | ThunderLord | there is no way to do it for sure? |
| 23:19.55 | ThunderLord | Its kinda |
| 23:19.59 | ThunderLord | super important |
| 23:20.03 | A1win | well |
| 23:20.07 | ThunderLord | that it lines up perfectly |
| 23:20.20 | A1win | what do you mean |
| 23:20.24 | ThunderLord | well |
| 23:20.28 | ThunderLord | i have an image |
| 23:20.30 | A1win | you have to always take aspect ratio into account |
| 23:20.36 | ThunderLord | and basicly |
| 23:20.40 | ThunderLord | it must cover the screen |
| 23:20.48 | ThunderLord | the top part of the image is transparent |
| 23:20.53 | ThunderLord | and the bottom half is white |
| 23:21.09 | ThunderLord | the job if the image is to cover up the player's interface completely |
| 23:21.13 | ThunderLord | so they cannot see it anymore |
| 23:21.17 | A1win | welll 1200*16/9 is 2133.3333... so if you use 2134x1200, it will cover the screen on all aspect ratios |
| 23:21.32 | BDmon | make it very wide? |
| 23:21.49 | A1win | actually |
| 23:21.59 | A1win | it has a little spare |
| 23:22.08 | A1win | maybe like 25-50 pixels or so |
| 23:22.13 | A1win | so you need to add a bit to those |
| 23:22.13 | ThunderLord | ill try it |
| 23:22.14 | ThunderLord | brb |
| 23:22.23 | A1win | like 2234x1300 should do the trick |
| 23:23.08 | DarkRevenant | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVtNzONbaiU&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 23:23.13 | DarkRevenant | i want to |
| 23:23.17 | DarkRevenant | kill someone |
| 23:23.29 | BDmon | wtf cant click on the value of Return Value |
| 23:23.32 | onetwo | im glad to be canadian |
| 23:23.34 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:23.51 | DarkRevenant | dont want to kill the kid |
| 23:23.56 | ThunderLord | 2134x 1200 works for me, thanks a ton, ill make it allitle bigger and then just scale my image differant |
| 23:24.05 | DarkRevenant | parents kinda need to reevaluate themselves for bringing this to the media |
| 23:24.08 | DarkRevenant | but most importantly |
| 23:24.11 | DarkRevenant | Fox needs to |
| 23:24.16 | DarkRevenant | i mean ffs |
| 23:24.28 | DarkRevenant | it's like a bit from The Onion |
| 23:25.20 | A1win | BDmon, you have a return type set? ;o |
| 23:25.22 | ThunderLord | well unfortuneately my crappy graphics card doesnt give me the option to pan to widescreen |
| 23:25.25 | BDmon | i do now! |
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| 23:25.27 | BDmon | :D |
| 23:25.29 | A1win | :P |
| 23:25.32 | ThunderLord | but i think it will work, Thanks a ton |
| 23:25.54 | A1win | ThunderLord, if you run the game in a window, you can resize it by dragging the edges |
| 23:26.12 | ThunderLord | duh, okay ill do that |
| 23:26.14 | A1win | then you can have any aspect ratio you want :P |
| 23:27.24 | ThunderLord | crap, well this is unfortuneate |
| 23:27.36 | DarkRevenant | wat |
| 23:27.36 | ThunderLord | XD it messes it up |
| 23:27.56 | A1win | messes how? |
| 23:28.01 | ThunderLord | well like |
| 23:28.05 | A1win | does the height change too? |
| 23:28.21 | ThunderLord | the white part of the image makes a shape that is about the same shape as the interface |
| 23:28.35 | ThunderLord | and the point is that that white part covers the interface |
| 23:28.43 | ThunderLord | so i can layer my own over that with dialog items |
| 23:28.49 | ThunderLord | but |
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| 23:28.58 | A1win | make two images |
| 23:29.07 | A1win | one tied to bottom left and one to bottom right |
| 23:29.17 | JManV | anyone want to help me test a map on NA servers? |
| 23:29.41 | A1win | both with very long "tail" towards the center of the screen |
| 23:29.49 | A1win | so that they overlap on lower aspect ratios |
| 23:30.02 | ThunderLord | ohhh |
| 23:30.43 | ThunderLord | but will i not get problems again with diferant wider or skinnier aspect ratios? |
| 23:30.46 | ThunderLord | humm |
| 23:30.48 | ThunderLord | maybe not |
| 23:30.50 | ThunderLord | ill try it |
| 23:30.58 | ThunderLord | jumping in to gimp |
| 23:31.16 | A1win | mm but the middle will stretch based on aspect ratio |
| 23:31.21 | JManV | "RPG Wars" - NA Server - anyone who'd like to help me test for a minute, please join |
| 23:31.23 | A1win | like it does with the default UI too |
| 23:32.12 | A1win | I'm so going to call the overseer's weapon Malignant Creep Tumor |
| 23:32.44 | ThunderLord | woah, thats smart. i dident realize that, thats why the interface models are cut in to 2 pieces then |
| 23:33.05 | A1win | :x |
| 23:33.54 | JManV | anyone? five minutes of your time? |
| 23:35.14 | JManV | guess i'll have to find someone later |
| 23:35.43 | A1win | I'm gonna sleep |
| 23:35.56 | BDmon | europe here and sleep aswell :| |
| 23:36.07 | JManV | so ability - interact... only works with neutral units? |
| 23:36.28 | A1win | maybe you can modify the ability itself? |
| 23:36.54 | JManV | i need the building to sell to allies only |
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| 23:37.02 | JManV | that's not a bad idea tho |
| 23:37.26 | JManV | hmmm... ability - alignment |
| 23:37.29 | JManV | not sure what it does |
| 23:37.33 | JManV | about to find out... |
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| 23:38.45 | BDmon | nn all |
| 23:39.06 | JManV | wow. i'm mean. i can't even survive my own game |
| 23:41.49 | JManV | ability - alignment apparently does nothing |
| 23:41.58 | JManV | i think i already tried that |
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| 23:44.26 | Saeris | sixen you lurking? |
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| 23:44.55 | Saeris | looks afk as usual |
| 23:45.26 | JManV | has anyone else gotten around the ability - interact and non-neutral buildings? |
| 23:45.33 | Sixen | no |
| 23:45.42 | Sixen | I'm never afk |
| 23:46.01 | Saeris | you get my msg the other day? |
| 23:46.08 | Saeris | had another contest idea for you =P |
| 23:46.09 | Sixen | which? |
| 23:46.12 | Sixen | I don't remember getting any msgs |
| 23:46.17 | Sixen | oh, no. never got it? |
| 23:46.18 | Saeris | aight |
| 23:46.53 | Saeris | well, i was thinking it might be fun to have a terraining contest, where you copy a screenshot or video clip of another game as best you can with SC2 assets |
| 23:47.40 | Saeris | for an example, i've been working on one recently, copying Helios ONE from new vegas http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/images/27/919/20101107045923_FNV_screenshot_NCR_Helios.jpg http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/images/27/920/Terrain_003.jpg |
| 23:47.42 | Sixen | remake terrain of another gamee? |
| 23:47.52 | Sixen | oh those are cool |
| 23:47.56 | JManV | what about movies? |
| 23:48.08 | Saeris | like i said, screenshot or a short movie |
| 23:48.10 | Sixen | Movies, I like that too.. |
| 23:48.25 | Sixen | Recreate a scene from your favorite game/movie. |
| 23:48.35 | Saeris | yea or that |
| 23:48.49 | Sixen | Well, it's basically what you were saying, unless I misunderstood? |
| 23:49.03 | Saeris | so, if you can remake the subway scene from the matrix bullet effects and all.... good luck |
| 23:49.18 | Sixen | lol, well I meant the environment :P |
| 23:49.33 | Saeris | yea |
| 23:49.42 | Saeris | i mean, it's totally up to interpretation |
| 23:49.53 | Saeris | you could just do environment, like i did here |
| 23:50.09 | Saeris | or you could just straight up copy a scene from a game/movie, characters and all |
| 23:50.17 | Saeris | but you can ONLY use sc2 assets |
| 23:50.35 | Acemore | is there any way to disable Allied Chat? |
| 23:50.41 | Saeris | to emphasize creative use of the assets |
| 23:50.57 | Sixen | Ace, you could unally them :P |
| 23:51.12 | Acemore | hehe six, that's what i do |
| 23:51.21 | Acemore | and even though the player has no allies |
| 23:51.32 | Acemore | it still defaults to 'allied chat' when he presses enter |
| 23:51.35 | JManV | stupid interact |
| 23:51.37 | Acemore | that's what i want to avoid |
| 23:52.12 | Acemore | when a player has no allies, i want the chat to default to All: |
| 23:52.14 | Sixen | hm |
| 23:52.15 | Saeris | betcha they will add a fix for that in the chat patch |
| 23:52.25 | Acemore | but it seems as long as the player has been in a team in the lobby when the game started |
| 23:52.26 | Acemore | that never happens |
| 23:52.36 | Acemore | now, i can set alliance aspect chat |
| 23:52.42 | Acemore | to disable allied chat |
| 23:52.48 | JManV | did you look through the chat triggers/ |
| 23:52.57 | Acemore | aye, it's what i'm saying now |
| 23:52.58 | Acemore | did that |
| 23:53.04 | JManV | hmmm |
| 23:53.07 | Acemore | it only prevents them from actually saying anything in allied chat |
| 23:53.16 | Acemore | but when he presses enter, it still defaults to Allied |
| 23:53.30 | Acemore | though he can't send messages with it |
| 23:53.58 | Acemore | inconvinient problem for the time being really |
| 23:53.59 | JManV | the other allies are removed from the game using a game trigger? |
| 23:54.07 | Acemore | yea |
| 23:54.18 | Acemore | lobby set up as 4v4 |
| 23:54.20 | JManV | are the alliances set in triggers? |
| 23:54.28 | Acemore | so they are allied to begin with |
| 23:54.33 | Acemore | on game start players vote over FFA or Team vs Team |
| 23:54.41 | JManV | it's a melee map? |
| 23:54.46 | Acemore | if FFA, i set players to be enemies with each other |
| 23:54.46 | Acemore | no |
| 23:54.58 | Saeris | well, you could just set the lobby to FFA then set alliances after the vote |
| 23:54.58 | JManV | i gotcha |
| 23:55.11 | JManV | so when it's ffa, they're stuck on team chat? |
| 23:55.23 | Acemore | aye, as long as they were allied on game start |
| 23:55.34 | Acemore | Saeris how would i decide which players are supposed to be on the same team? |
| 23:55.39 | JManV | that's a bit more than inconvenient |
| 23:55.45 | Saeris | um |
| 23:55.51 | Acemore | kinda part of why the lobby is set up as 4v4 |
| 23:55.55 | Acemore | so players can join as a party |
| 23:55.57 | Saeris | well acemore, are the positions static or random? |
| 23:55.58 | Acemore | with up to 4 |
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| 23:56.16 | Saeris | starting positions that is |
| 23:56.28 | Acemore | static |
| 23:56.37 | Acemore | well |
| 23:56.43 | JManV | why don't you start it as a ffa, then set the 4v4 up later? |
| 23:56.44 | Saeris | then you could just pick players by number and set teams that way |
| 23:56.52 | Saeris | so like, 1-4 team 1, 5-8 team 2 |
| 23:57.03 | JManV | or do you want parties to be able to play together? |
| 23:57.04 | Acemore | JManV if you start as ffa, parties can't join the map |
| 23:57.08 | JManV | yeah |
| 23:57.12 | Acemore | that is, as long as you're in a party in bnet |
| 23:57.14 | Saeris | otherwise if positions were random, you could go and only pair players in team regions |
| 23:57.17 | Acemore | the map is greyed out |
| 23:57.19 | Saeris | or team start positions |
| 23:57.19 | Acemore | unable to join it |
| 23:57.47 | Acemore | Saeris still though, if the lobby is ffa, people on bnet can't join the map as parties |
| 23:57.54 | Acemore | they have to split up and join separately |
| 23:57.58 | Saeris | hmmm |
| 23:57.59 | Acemore | hoping they get into the same game |
| 23:58.03 | Acemore | which is stupid |
| 23:58.15 | Saeris | well, like i said, blizz will probably fix that in time, lol |
| 23:58.15 | Acemore | and then i'd have to hope they are the correct player numbers |
| 23:58.21 | Acemore | they will never get on the same team like that :P |
| 23:58.23 | Acemore | ye |
| 23:58.35 | Acemore | it's an inconvinience |
| 23:58.36 | Acemore | for now |
| 23:58.37 | JManV | there's a pretty big difference between 4v4 and ffa... why are you putting it to a vote in the first place? |
| 23:58.45 | Saeris | listening to that press interview about bnet the other day, i think they mentioned they want to make lobbies better |
| 23:59.03 | Saeris | that and chat will probably see huge updates in the next patch |
| 23:59.14 | Saeris | which may fix your allied chat problem |
