| 00:00.17 | doom | example on my naruto map Nagato has a ground mover that changes to a "Hover" mover when he is walkin on water |
| 00:01.03 | doom | brb |
| 00:02.16 | nolliepoper | doom |
| 00:02.32 | doom | yess |
| 00:02.35 | doom | im back |
| 00:02.58 | doom | nolliepoper |
| 00:02.59 | doom | ? |
| 00:03.11 | nolliepoper | I want my ability's cast to not be disrupted by otehr abilities. |
| 00:03.35 | doom | agian look at the hyperitons attack |
| 00:03.38 | doom | xD |
| 00:03.45 | doom | i think |
| 00:04.16 | doom | for such an abilty u will need to modifiy its flags |
| 00:05.28 | doom | and Fockewulf? |
| 00:05.42 | doom | what is the gide u wanted to show me? |
| 00:05.57 | doite | Hi guys.. |
| 00:06.13 | doom | doite whats ur map editor problem? |
| 00:06.14 | doite | Im trying to make it able to skip cinematrics |
| 00:06.19 | doite | =) |
| 00:06.23 | doom | lol |
| 00:06.28 | doite | And i have come half far |
| 00:06.30 | doom | in the story mode |
| 00:06.33 | doom | ? |
| 00:06.37 | doite | ? |
| 00:06.38 | doite | Nono |
| 00:06.52 | doom | D= |
| 00:06.56 | doite | Event "Player presses down esc" |
| 00:07.07 | doom | i dont do triggers |
| 00:07.08 | doite | But the problem is that if u do.. you enter menu |
| 00:07.22 | doom | then change the button |
| 00:07.28 | doom | instead of ect |
| 00:07.44 | doom | do . |
| 00:07.52 | doite | But people allwas press esc for skipping cinematrics |
| 00:07.52 | doom | or ctr +. |
| 00:08.00 | doite | No one will know what to press then |
| 00:08.23 | doite | Can u disable a buttom in game? |
| 00:08.24 | doom | then put it in the intro of ur map as its ben loaded |
| 00:08.38 | doom | -.- |
| 00:08.48 | doite | Well it would be more easy to just do that.. |
| 00:08.52 | doite | But i want it more correct |
| 00:09.05 | doite | Is it possible you not enter menu with esc? |
| 00:09.19 | doom | then idki mean i dont do triggers but this seems like lazyness |
| 00:09.36 | doite | How do u do then? |
| 00:09.46 | doom | instead of ect change the BUTTON |
| 00:09.46 | nolliepoper | the key pressing triggers will lag with ove 3 people. |
| 00:09.47 | doom | xD |
| 00:10.00 | doite | Well its only 2 people |
| 00:10.01 | doite | On map |
| 00:10.10 | doom | 1v1\\ |
| 00:10.13 | doite | nop |
| 00:10.16 | doite | 2v computer |
| 00:10.18 | nolliepoper | idk I won't use key triggers |
| 00:10.21 | doom | ah |
| 00:10.29 | doite | Well i dont KNOW how to not use the trigger |
| 00:10.33 | doom | add some ai tatics |
| 00:10.34 | doite | How to do it then nollie |
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| 00:10.49 | doite | Thats really not my area.. what is ai tatics |
| 00:10.51 | nolliepoper | don't add intro in the first place haha |
| 00:11.02 | doite | Well map has to be explained |
| 00:11.08 | doite | Its not very obvious |
| 00:11.13 | nolliepoper | loading screen if for. |
| 00:11.20 | doite | Anyway |
| 00:11.28 | doom | ai tatics is how the ai reacts and behaves to every unit in ur map if its own controll |
| 00:11.32 | doite | Whats this ai tactics? |
| 00:11.45 | doite | Ok.. |
| 00:11.56 | doom | even custom units |
| 00:12.07 | doom | its basicly the computer\ |
| 00:12.59 | doom | it tells the comp to build and make units |
| 00:13.12 | nolliepoper | Doom can you help with ability. |
| 00:13.17 | doom | yes |
| 00:13.22 | doom | may i have ur map |
| 00:13.25 | doom | plz |
| 00:13.38 | nolliepoper | no that won't help |
| 00:13.47 | doom | kk |
| 00:13.52 | doom | well i will try |
| 00:13.58 | nolliepoper | because then I won't know what you did and I need to rinse and repete for 10 spells |
| 00:14.34 | doom | u could look at the model and actor that u were tryn to modifiy and see my edits |
| 00:14.37 | nolliepoper | all I am asking is to make an ability uninteruptable by other abilities. |
| 00:14.50 | doom | its a flag |
| 00:14.55 | nolliepoper | which one? |
| 00:15.10 | doom | uninteruptable |
| 00:15.15 | doom | is a flag |
| 00:15.26 | doom | on the ability itself |
| 00:15.28 | doom | xD |
| 00:15.29 | nolliepoper | I do want it interuptable. |
| 00:15.42 | nolliepoper | by esc but not abilities. |
| 00:16.03 | doom | then uncheck that flag |
| 00:16.16 | doom | by esc? |
| 00:16.18 | doom | well |
| 00:16.33 | doom | then make an passive button |
| 00:16.36 | nolliepoper | escape. |
| 00:16.37 | doom | on the unit |
| 00:16.43 | doom | no |
| 00:16.45 | doom | w8 |
| 00:17.01 | doom | make the abilty cancel button cancel |
| 00:17.17 | doom | and modify the cancel button |
| 00:17.30 | doom | make its hotkey ect |
| 00:17.33 | doom | esc |
| 00:17.35 | doite | Ok now it works.. |
| 00:17.35 | doom | * |
| 00:17.38 | doom | lol |
| 00:17.59 | doite | How to make so both players have to press key to end it |
| 00:18.01 | doite | Hmm.. |
| 00:18.05 | doite | Conditions.. |
| 00:18.07 | doom | but dont put the button on the command card |
| 00:18.16 | doite | Its on space |
| 00:18.19 | doom | that would be triggers |
| 00:18.24 | doom | lol |
| 00:18.39 | nolliepoper | problem is |
| 00:18.56 | nolliepoper | esc cancle button ability won't interupt it via abilty. |
| 00:19.12 | doom | to cross a play field to find data on enetry that a button is press would be a global level of editing |
| 00:19.32 | doom | the hot key for the button |
| 00:19.37 | doom | didnt work? |
| 00:20.00 | nolliepoper | wut do? |
| 00:20.29 | doom | u set space as the hotkey of the cancel button |
| 00:20.34 | doom | so |
| 00:20.42 | doom | when u press space |
| 00:20.52 | doom | the ability should cancel |
| 00:21.12 | doom | but dont add the cancel button on the command card |
| 00:21.30 | doom | put it on the ability cancel setion |
| 00:21.37 | nolliepoper | space won't work on buttons btw but I am using esc |
| 00:22.12 | doom | so when u press ect it should work other then interfereing with the menu |
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| 00:22.27 | doite | May i ask if anyone knows if there is a condition that checks if both players (active players) have pressed a certain key? |
| 00:22.38 | doom | trigger |
| 00:22.49 | doom | its crossing the player field |
| 00:22.50 | RodOfNOD | just have a boolean array |
| 00:23.00 | nolliepoper | yeah booleans array nice call rod. |
| 00:23.17 | doite | Boolean.. is this for me? |
| 00:23.18 | nolliepoper | butI kinda feel worried for you doite. |
| 00:23.24 | doite | Dont |
| 00:23.25 | doom | there for only the GLOBAL editor a.k.a the trigger editor can modifiy |
| 00:23.26 | doite | Works great |
| 00:23.27 | nolliepoper | that is some simple stuff. |
| 00:24.05 | doom | it wouldnt be a serch effect |
| 00:24.10 | doite | Nollie, im just learning how to create stuff, and my map to be honest is quite advance.. But every new thing is .. well hard |
| 00:24.11 | doite | Ofc |
| 00:24.12 | nolliepoper | doom |
| 00:24.17 | doom | cuse it would have to check for both |
| 00:24.24 | doite | So how to check if both players have pressed? |
| 00:24.25 | doom | players crossing the field |
| 00:24.35 | doom | yess nolliepoper |
| 00:24.36 | doom | ? |
| 00:24.39 | nolliepoper | on the command card |
| 00:24.45 | doom | yess |
| 00:24.58 | nolliepoper | which command type to set the cancle button that will interupt ma abiltiy cast? |
| 00:24.59 | doom | dont put the cancel button on the cc |
| 00:25.18 | doom | go to the abiliy cancel sel |
| 00:25.26 | nolliepoper | it has to be showing for the hotkey to work |
| 00:25.34 | doom | and put the cancel button u modifiyed |
| 00:25.37 | doom | nope |
| 00:25.40 | nolliepoper | now that is where you contradict yourself. |
| 00:25.41 | doom | trust me |
| 00:25.48 | doom | lol |
| 00:26.00 | doom | the command card its just diolog |
| 00:26.02 | nolliepoper | your using abilty cancle? |
| 00:26.13 | nolliepoper | that wont even interupt my cast bro. |
| 00:26.20 | doom | as long as each ability has a hotkey |
| 00:26.22 | nolliepoper | because of the "flag" |
| 00:26.39 | doom | then uncheck the flag |
| 00:26.45 | doom | and make the |
| 00:27.04 | doom | cancel button u modifiyed the flag itself |
| 00:27.10 | doom | xD\ |
| 00:27.24 | doite | Please guys. I have Event : Player press space, actions Stop all instances of trigger (movie) + Run trigger (End of movie) works fine |
| 00:27.43 | doite | But can i add a condition that BOTH players have to press space for the actions to start? |
| 00:27.57 | doom | trust me i know a test map i made with no command card but hotkeyed abilitys and it worked |
| 00:27.57 | nolliepoper | then set skip[triggering player] to tru |
| 00:28.12 | nolliepoper | without a game ui? |
| 00:28.20 | doom | basicly |
| 00:28.22 | doom | yes |
| 00:28.25 | nolliepoper | make skipe[2] boolean. |
| 00:28.34 | nolliepoper | tell me more doom |
| 00:28.39 | nolliepoper | do you have a mic? |
| 00:29.08 | doite | What do u mean.. |
| 00:29.16 | nolliepoper | make boolean named skip. |
| 00:29.20 | doite | Skip, where would i find this? |
| 00:29.24 | doite | Ok |
| 00:29.29 | doite | Boolean? =( |
| 00:29.31 | nolliepoper | creat it an array[2] |
| 00:29.42 | nolliepoper | boolean is a data type that can be true or false. |
| 00:29.58 | doite | It set to false |
| 00:30.03 | nolliepoper | ok |
| 00:30.03 | doite | Automaticly |
| 00:30.11 | nolliepoper | that is good because you named it skip |
| 00:30.28 | nolliepoper | now when they hit the spacebar trigger |
| 00:30.45 | doite | Yea |
| 00:30.49 | doom | im back |
| 00:30.52 | doom | xD |
| 00:30.54 | nolliepoper | set skip[triggering player] = true |
| 00:31.24 | doom | anyway |
| 00:31.33 | nolliepoper | then use an if statement cheching if both skip[1] && skip[2] == true; |
| 00:31.39 | doom | the model MothershipBeaconLow apear's above the nexus when you spawn a mothership but thats a defult height so how do i lower that so the center of the model is at the center of the unit when the model has no attachment points? |
| 00:31.40 | doom | before i contiune helpn people |
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| 00:32.16 | nolliepoper | and if they are both true then do your skipping action and else do nothing. |
| 00:32.19 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.24 | nolliepoper | no |
| 00:32.25 | doite | no.. |
| 00:32.25 | doite | wait |
| 00:32.31 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.44 | nolliepoper | skip[1] && skip[2] == true; |
| 00:33.01 | doite | Or just triggered player as u said |
| 00:33.02 | doite | ? |
| 00:33.02 | nolliepoper | and statement in the condition |
| 00:33.06 | nolliepoper | no need actually |
| 00:33.21 | nolliepoper | just add two lines to the condition of the if statement. |
| 00:33.32 | nolliepoper | not triggered player |
| 00:33.43 | nolliepoper | because you don't know who is triggering it when it checks. |
| 00:33.48 | doite | But i put it in condition, not a if statement |
| 00:34.02 | nolliepoper | no |
| 00:34.03 | doite | Should it be in a if else then statement |
| 00:34.09 | nolliepoper | listen. |
| 00:34.14 | nolliepoper | here is what you want. |
| 00:34.21 | nolliepoper | when player hits space |
| 00:34.34 | nolliepoper | set player = true |
| 00:34.41 | nolliepoper | check if both players == true |
| 00:34.43 | nolliepoper | do actions. |
| 00:35.25 | nolliepoper | that is the pseudo code |
| 00:35.53 | doom | FockeWulf? |
| 00:36.42 | nolliepoper | doom how did you make a game use hotkeys without the ui? |
| 00:36.49 | doite | Im sorry i really do understand, just not how to do this. So i first have a variable thats named Skip, thats boolean type with ar.=2. Then i have the "movie skip trigger: When press space.. W.. Condition: Skip[1]==true and the same with skip.. 2 == true |
| 00:36.52 | nolliepoper | and without laggy key triggers? |
| 00:37.02 | doite | But dont i have to have trigger that sais who 1 and 2 are? |
| 00:37.12 | doom | welll |
| 00:37.22 | doom | when u use an ability or make 1 |
| 00:37.32 | nolliepoper | yes you do. |
| 00:37.44 | nolliepoper | triggering player returns the player as an integer. |
| 00:38.11 | nolliepoper | set skip[triggering player] = true |
| 00:38.17 | nolliepoper | now if statement |
| 00:38.28 | doom | its BUTTON has a hotkey and also when u make 1 click on the ability and see its CANCEL button and its BUTTON hotkey |
| 00:39.17 | nolliepoper | wow bro that is only for target spells |
| 00:39.20 | doom | and the active button |
| 00:39.23 | nolliepoper | I am working with an instant. |
| 00:39.31 | doom | that needs to be pressed |
| 00:39.35 | doom | i k |
| 00:39.50 | doom | so forget the button image |
| 00:40.00 | doom | go to the Command card |
| 00:40.43 | doom | and place ur ability under a slot but not the CANCEL button that deatives it |
| 00:40.54 | doom | and then go to the abiltiy |
| 00:41.04 | doom | and at the top |
| 00:41.23 | doom | theres a button and thens theres a CANCEL button |
| 00:41.32 | doom | so in that cancel button spot |
| 00:41.50 | doom | put the button with ur spiec hotkey in there |
| 00:42.09 | doom | forget what the button looks like cuse they wont see it |
| 00:42.32 | doom | ect the trigger button the Activates it |
| 00:42.39 | doom | so that way |
| 00:42.42 | doom | in game |
| 00:42.44 | doite | AH DAMN! Nollie i really appreciate your help alot! But what i have now is 2 triggers and 1 variable. Variable, boolean (false). Trigger 1:Key pressed esc = triggering player = true |
| 00:42.49 | nolliepoper | did you forget I am trying to make it uninteruptable except when I hit esc? |
| 00:43.01 | doite | And the last one is if skip 1 and skip 2 == true do actions |
| 00:43.17 | doom | so add the flag cannot be interrupted |
| 00:43.22 | doom | but |
| 00:43.31 | nolliepoper | bro u only need 1 trigger and an boolean array |
| 00:43.44 | doom | the cancel slot overirdes the flag |
| 00:43.50 | nolliepoper | how so? |
| 00:43.54 | doom | cuse it cancels out the whole ability |
| 00:44.01 | doite | ah ofc.. |
| 00:44.03 | doom | not just disables |
| 00:44.04 | doite | wait |
| 00:44.06 | nolliepoper | while it is casting? |
| 00:44.11 | doom | yess |
| 00:44.14 | doom | its instant |
| 00:44.29 | doom | instant stop as soon as u press that button |
| 00:44.32 | nolliepoper | just because it is instant doesn't mean it doesn't have a casting bar to load. |
| 00:44.56 | doom | then modifiy the time on casting |
| 00:45.03 | nolliepoper | I have that already |
| 00:45.17 | nolliepoper | instant spell that takes 1.75 secs to cast. |
| 00:45.17 | doom | but if its instant as u say then it shouldent even have a casting bar |
| 00:45.26 | nolliepoper | now durring that tiem when I click move it interupts it. |
| 00:45.32 | doom | it should have a cool down |
| 00:45.38 | doom | of 1.75 sec |
| 00:45.42 | nolliepoper | no instant is a type of ability bro. |
| 00:45.47 | nolliepoper | don't let that fool you |
| 00:45.56 | doom | yess |
| 00:45.58 | doite | OK! |
| 00:46.04 | nolliepoper | instant basically means that this abiltiy does not target anyone. |
| 00:46.09 | nolliepoper | but it can still have casting times. |
| 00:46.19 | doom | kk |
| 00:46.23 | doom | didnt know |
| 00:46.26 | RoarMan | HI GUYS! |
| 00:46.32 | doom | u wanted it to have castn time |
| 00:46.34 | nolliepoper | RoarMan |
| 00:46.48 | nolliepoper | I already have casting time doom |
| 00:46.52 | doom | kk |
| 00:47.00 | nolliepoper | I am trying to make it unintereuptable by abiltites |
| 00:47.21 | doom | oh ok |
| 00:47.21 | RoarMan | Hiii |
| 00:47.21 | doite | Now i have: Any player presses space key. Actions: Set skip [triggering player]=true, Wait for condition, Condition: Skip[1]==true,Skip[2]==true, then all the actions |
| 00:47.21 | doom | so |
| 00:47.21 | nolliepoper | except some for of an esc hotkey. |
| 00:47.21 | doite | Should work right!?!? =) |
| 00:47.28 | doom | test it out |
| 00:47.31 | nolliepoper | wait for condition? |
| 00:47.37 | doite | Yea .. well |
| 00:47.42 | doite | A wait for condition action |
| 00:47.47 | nolliepoper | no need. |
| 00:47.48 | doite | Else it will just check one time |
| 00:47.52 | doite | Oh.. true |
| 00:47.57 | nolliepoper | because that trigger will run twice if they both skip. |
| 00:47.58 | doite | Its when they press key |
| 00:47.59 | doite | True |
| 00:48.00 | doom | lol |
| 00:48.00 | doite | true |
| 00:48.01 | doom | so |
| 00:48.19 | doom | u want to modifiy an alias |
| 00:48.25 | doom | basicly |
| 00:48.29 | nolliepoper | me? |
| 00:48.33 | doom | thats 1 way to mod it |
| 00:48.36 | doom | but |
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| 00:49.23 | doom | nolliepoper to mod the abilty so no other abiltys can effect it |
| 00:49.23 | doom | add effect interuppetable |
| 00:49.23 | nolliepoper | I did that |
| 00:49.24 | doom | flag* |
| 00:49.24 | doom | then |
| 00:49.29 | nolliepoper | but then there is absolutly no way to interupt it via esc |
| 00:49.35 | doom | do what i said about the cancel buttton |
| 00:49.47 | doom | add it |
| 00:49.49 | nolliepoper | here want me to record it? |
| 00:49.54 | doom | then test |
| 00:49.58 | doom | yess |
| 00:50.03 | nolliepoper | ok |
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| 00:53.03 | BDmon | nn all |
| 00:53.14 | doom | nn? |
| 00:53.17 | doite | GN |
| 00:53.20 | doom | gn? |
| 00:53.22 | doite | Its late in europe doom |
| 00:53.28 | BDmon | :P 1:53 in the morning here |
| 00:53.30 | doom | oh |
| 00:53.32 | doom | lol |
| 00:53.35 | BDmon | :P |
| 00:53.44 | BDmon | bb |
| 00:53.52 | doom | see im us game desinger |
| 00:53.53 | doom | but |
| 00:53.56 | doom | im 16 |
| 00:53.58 | doom | lol |
| 00:54.22 | doite | Well now i think it works nollie, but its hard to know, since it wont skip it if its 2 players.. since its array on the boolean =2 |
| 00:54.27 | doom | and just startin off at very epic foot in knowage |
| 00:54.31 | nolliepoper | u havn't helped me any tho lol |
| 00:54.42 | doom | ? |
| 00:54.47 | nolliepoper | told me stuff I already know. |
| 00:54.52 | doom | i k |
| 00:54.58 | nolliepoper | and do you know about different ability types? |
| 00:54.59 | doom | ur prob smarter |
| 00:55.03 | doom | yess |
| 00:55.06 | doom | but |
| 00:55.15 | nolliepoper | I am uploading the vid now |
| 00:55.19 | doom | i stick to whats best |
| 00:55.20 | nolliepoper | it may take a bit. |
| 00:55.22 | doom | kk |
| 00:55.31 | nolliepoper | 8% |
| 00:55.43 | doite | are u sure it should be Skip[0]==true and skip[1]== true? |
| 00:55.47 | doom | i dont know how to make folders in the data editor yet |
| 00:55.51 | doite | Doesnt the first one count as 0? |
| 00:55.54 | nolliepoper | youtube says 10% |
| 00:56.19 | nolliepoper | for what doite? |
| 00:56.28 | doite | For the condition |
| 00:56.42 | doom | and my field of game desinger is data editor and modeling with 3dsmax 9 |
| 00:56.45 | doite | Skip[0]==true instead of Skip[1]==true |
| 00:56.55 | doom | or the assets of gameing |
| 00:56.56 | doom | xD |
| 00:57.13 | doom | i hate textures |
| 00:57.21 | doom | they look so creepy |
| 00:57.27 | doom | and scare ,e |
| 00:57.29 | doom | me* |
| 00:57.39 | doom | i dont get UV maping |
| 00:57.41 | doom | xD |
| 00:58.09 | nolliepoper | no use |
| 00:58.14 | nolliepoper | CONDITIONS |
| 00:58.16 | nolliepoper | skip[1] == true |
| 00:58.22 | nolliepoper | skip[2] == true |
| 00:58.34 | nolliepoper | because triggering player will not be returning 0 |
| 00:58.36 | doom | if, then statement |
| 00:58.44 | nolliepoper | but the array will be from 0, 1 and 2 |
| 00:58.48 | doom | is the only trigger ill ever undertand |
| 00:59.14 | doom | i dont even know what boolean means |
| 00:59.15 | doom | xD |
| 00:59.16 | nolliepoper | because it is the simplest one doom |
| 00:59.22 | doom | xD |
| 00:59.30 | nolliepoper | true or false. |
| 00:59.30 | doom | whats the word mean? |
| 00:59.42 | doom | so its a factor |
| 00:59.43 | nolliepoper | arrays are harder to understand than booleans. |
| 00:59.51 | nolliepoper | what word? |
| 01:00.01 | doom | boolean |
| 01:00.02 | nolliepoper | triggering player is in the funcions. |
| 01:00.20 | nolliepoper | it is a data type. |
| 01:00.34 | doom | its a defult |
| 01:00.53 | Wiz10011 | Okay doom i cant figure it out. maybe you could point me in the right direction? |
| 01:00.53 | doom | there some triggers built in the data editor GUI |
| 01:00.58 | doom | yess |
| 01:01.02 | doom | lol |
| 01:01.03 | Wiz10011 | how do i make the weapon attack automaticly? |
| 01:01.11 | doom | lol |
| 01:01.20 | Wiz10011 | yea im dumb, i know i know. |
| 01:01.23 | doom | did u look at the hyperltron weapon |
| 01:01.24 | doom | ? |
| 01:01.27 | Wiz10011 | Yes |
| 01:01.43 | doom | and how its weapon's "FLAGS"? |
| 01:01.46 | nolliepoper | doom do you have a mic? |
| 01:01.57 | doite | Nollie |
| 01:01.57 | doite | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/14898-correct-for-skipping-intro/ |
| 01:02.01 | doite | Thats what i did |
| 01:02.13 | doom | yess |
| 01:02.30 | Wiz10011 | No i dont see how it flags. |
| 01:02.38 | doom | lol |
| 01:02.42 | Wiz10011 | do you mean the weapon or the effect |
| 01:02.50 | doom | the weapon |
| 01:03.05 | doom | it might be the effect i wasnt sure |
| 01:03.05 | Wiz10011 | it does have any flags when i look at the weapon itself. |
| 01:03.08 | doom | 1 sec |
| 01:03.17 | nolliepoper | that is exactly what I tried to explain to you |
| 01:03.21 | doom | 1 sec ok wizz |
| 01:03.24 | Wiz10011 | Sure |
| 01:03.28 | doom | hold on |
| 01:03.32 | nolliepoper | doite |
| 01:03.38 | doite | Yes sir |
| 01:03.46 | nolliepoper | I am saying |
| 01:03.50 | nolliepoper | that looks good |
| 01:04.00 | nolliepoper | and I hope you understand it. |
| 01:04.28 | doom | ok |
| 01:04.29 | doom | wiz |
| 01:04.35 | doom | on the weapon |
| 01:04.43 | doom | does it have TSRandom |
| 01:04.44 | doom | ? |
| 01:05.01 | doom | and allowed movement' |
| 01:05.05 | doite | No i understand that when someone (player) presses space -> (triggered player) they turn the false variable into true. And the condition is that when variable 1 and 2 = true, they do actions |
| 01:05.06 | doom | so it fires on da move |
| 01:05.07 | doom | ? |
| 01:05.21 | doite | BUT.. what i dont understand is what a boolean variable is. |
| 01:05.39 | doite | Is it just a false varialbue that u can set into true |
| 01:06.01 | nolliepoper | yes and that is the beauty of variables. |
| 01:06.19 | doom | and wiz make sure the weapon has under opitons |
| 01:06.22 | nolliepoper | you can set them and come back to them later to see what it is. |
| 01:06.45 | doite | And also i thought that if someone triggered it to become true (the first one) it would become Variable 0, then the second one becomes variable 1 (not 1 and 2) |
| 01:06.45 | doom | the "can intae attack" |
| 01:06.56 | doom | intate attack |
| 01:07.08 | doom | so it fires without command |
| 01:07.19 | nolliepoper | triggering player returns the player number as an integer. |
| 01:07.38 | doite | ok |
| 01:07.42 | doite | so player 1 = 1 |
| 01:07.45 | doite | Player 3 = 3 |
| 01:07.46 | nolliepoper | why would the first one be variable 0? |
| 01:08.02 | doite | Ah i se! |
| 01:08.08 | doite | Well nollie! thank you so much |
| 01:08.11 | doite | Very kind of u! |
| 01:08.12 | nolliepoper | yes because it gos back to see who hit the space bar |
| 01:08.24 | Wiz10011 | Im back. yea i saw the TSrandom doom. |
| 01:08.42 | nolliepoper | if you like that stuff doite you should take a programming class. |
| 01:08.42 | doom | kk |
| 01:08.49 | nolliepoper | on the basics. |
| 01:09.01 | doom | TSRandom means it will attack randomly |
| 01:09.10 | doite | I do, but my father, a sucessful banker, doesnt really agree with my taste of interests :/ |
| 01:09.16 | Wiz10011 | Okay i didnt have the weapon options before. |
| 01:09.19 | doite | So its economics for me.. |
| 01:09.22 | Wiz10011 | give me one sec doom to try it |
| 01:09.22 | Mephs | how do you set the amount of damage a behavior will react to before it exhausts? |
| 01:09.28 | Mephs | i.e. a 200 damage absorb shield |
| 01:09.33 | doom | under opitons "Can inatiate attack" means fires without command |
| 01:09.58 | Wiz10011 | Yea i didnt have it check when i tried it before. |
| 01:10.33 | doom | and Allowed Movement means u can attack while moven |
| 01:10.44 | doom | so it dont break when moven |
| 01:10.49 | Wiz10011 | where did you see allowed movement? |
| 01:10.54 | doom | im quite experianced |
| 01:11.12 | Wiz10011 | that i didnt see anywhere. |
| 01:11.30 | doom | under TSRandom |
| 01:11.37 | doom | is Weapon leacy |
| 01:11.40 | nolliepoper | doite |
| 01:11.49 | Wiz10011 | dope |
| 01:11.50 | doom | put allowed movement |
| 01:12.01 | doom | on ur weapon |
| 01:12.03 | Wiz10011 | yep got it. thanks |
| 01:12.07 | doom | kk |
| 01:12.37 | doite | yes nollie |
| 01:12.42 | doom | the serch area effect means whats the range and how many sec should it serch for a foe |
| 01:12.44 | nolliepoper | to test this alone just right click the condition skip[2] == true and uncheck enable |
| 01:13.11 | doom | and how many emenys will it serch for |
| 01:13.16 | nolliepoper | now you can skip on a single test. |
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| 01:13.30 | nolliepoper | don't forget to enable it again when you publish it. |
| 01:14.07 | doom | test da map\ |
| 01:14.15 | doom | and nollie |
| 01:14.22 | doom | is it uploaded |
| 01:14.23 | doom | ? |
| 01:14.32 | nolliepoper | the video? |
| 01:14.36 | doom | yep |
| 01:14.54 | nolliepoper | almost now it is processing |
| 01:14.58 | doite | Works just fine |
| 01:15.01 | doite | Thanks Nollie |
| 01:15.03 | doite | Cya all |
| 01:15.13 | doom | bye |
| 01:16.28 | doom | so |
| 01:16.29 | doom | ? |
| 01:16.36 | doom | is it done processn |
| 01:16.37 | doom | ? |
| 01:16.44 | doom | xD |
| 01:17.21 | Wiz10011 | who you talking to? |
| 01:17.31 | doom | nolliepoper |
| 01:17.32 | nolliepoper | I wonder how long processing takes. |
| 01:17.38 | nolliepoper | it depends on the video size. |
| 01:17.39 | doom | lol |
| 01:17.50 | doom | self explanitory |
| 01:17.51 | doom | xD |
| 01:17.58 | nolliepoper | I do upload in HD |
| 01:18.04 | nolliepoper | sup? |
| 01:18.05 | doom | lol |
| 01:18.15 | doom | how longs the video |
| 01:18.22 | doom | its not 2 sec |
| 01:18.25 | doom | right |
| 01:18.26 | doom | xD |
| 01:18.32 | nolliepoper | no |
| 01:18.38 | nolliepoper | I show 2 examples |
| 01:18.39 | doom | HD 2 sec video FTW |
| 01:18.45 | doom | brb\ |
| 01:19.46 | nolliepoper | 1 minutes 1 second long with 257 mbs |
| 01:19.49 | nolliepoper | dang.... |
| 01:20.47 | nolliepoper | with that rate a 1hr video of recording my screen would take up 15gbs |
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| 01:23.03 | Acemore | could some1 do me a quick favour and see if there's an image called ui_checkbox_on.dds in the editor? (when selecting an image) |
| 01:26.54 | BorgDragon | no |
| 01:26.56 | BorgDragon | sort of |
| 01:27.21 | doom | i gtg |
| 01:27.25 | doom | sorry guys |
| 01:27.41 | BorgDragon | ui_checkboxbutton_normalpressed_terran.dds and ui_checkboxbutton_normaloverpressed_terran.dds |
| 01:27.58 | Acemore | BorgDragon thanks for confirming :) |
| 01:28.07 | Acemore | it was there in beta |
| 01:28.11 | Acemore | seems they removed it |
| 01:28.12 | Acemore | sucks |
| 01:28.22 | nolliepoper | it has been that long? |
| 01:28.40 | Acemore | long since what? |
| 01:29.05 | nolliepoper | u map making |
| 01:29.05 | SiNiquity | since you edited your map I'm guessing. |
| 01:29.09 | BorgDragon | well Acemore |
| 01:29.19 | BorgDragon | just search Checkbox |
| 01:29.21 | nolliepoper | where did you come from SiNiquity? |
| 01:29.37 | BorgDragon | the Objectives_checkbox might serve your purpose |
| 01:29.57 | BorgDragon | theres a New, Failed, and Completed |
| 01:30.03 | BorgDragon | for the objective checkboxes |
| 01:30.15 | SiNiquity | just checked the channel :P |
| 01:30.34 | nolliepoper | you been reading the whole time? |
| 01:30.36 | BorgDragon | oh wait WTF |
| 01:30.44 | SiNiquity | I figure I needed to answer and ez question before posing an ez question :) |
| 01:30.45 | BorgDragon | there IS a checkbox_off.dds though... |
| 01:30.48 | nolliepoper | without a peep until now? |
| 01:30.50 | Acemore | i know |
| 01:30.54 | Acemore | but the 'on' is gone :D |
| 01:30.58 | SiNiquity | haha no I just popped in a min ago |
| 01:31.01 | Acemore | i need something which is white |
| 01:31.05 | Acemore | so i can tint it |
| 01:31.17 | SiNiquity | been idling for a bit I suppose tho ~.~ |
| 01:31.27 | nolliepoper | That question didn't count as any points for you. |
| 01:31.35 | SiNiquity | ez is ez :D |
| 01:31.35 | BorgDragon | well, why don't you extract the pic for _off |
| 01:31.36 | nolliepoper | because I happen to answer it before you. |
| 01:31.41 | BorgDragon | edit it, and import it? |
| 01:31.47 | SiNiquity | [20:29]<SiNiquity>since you edited your map I'm guessing. |
| 01:31.48 | SiNiquity | <nolliepoper>u map making |
| 01:31.51 | nolliepoper | so redo a few more before dropping the bomb. |
| 01:32.07 | nolliepoper | [20:29] <nolliepoper> u map making [20:29] <SiNiquity> since you edited your map I'm guessing. |
| 01:32.12 | SiNiquity | osnap! |
| 01:32.13 | nolliepoper | same second |
| 01:32.29 | BorgDragon | 20:29? |
| 01:32.33 | SiNiquity | [minute] |
| 01:32.34 | nolliepoper | I guess it is up to acemore to see who got the points. |
| 01:32.37 | Acemore | BorgDragon might do that :) |
| 01:32.38 | BorgDragon | lol, i have your guys entries at 20:28 for both :P |
| 01:32.45 | SiNiquity | lol |
| 01:32.46 | nolliepoper | it was the same seconds too. |
| 01:32.47 | BorgDragon | it can't be too Hard Acemore :P |
| 01:32.58 | BorgDragon | it's only 28x28 I think |
| 01:33.29 | nolliepoper | why does youtube take longer to process a video than to upload the mother... |
| 01:33.32 | BorgDragon | if you can't paint 784 pixels, something is wrong with you :P |
| 01:33.47 | BorgDragon | the process IS the upload :P |
| 01:33.49 | SiNiquity | Something is wrong with me :( |
| 01:34.00 | nolliepoper | no it is not Borg |
| 01:34.04 | SiNiquity | I can paint 784 pixels just not well ;) |
| 01:34.12 | Acemore | BorgDragon it's just the pain of converting to DDS |
| 01:34.14 | BorgDragon | you mean you are compressing through youtube ? |
| 01:34.21 | RoarMan | Hi borgdragon! |
| 01:34.26 | BorgDragon | RAWR! |
| 01:34.31 | nolliepoper | no here go here |
| 01:34.32 | BorgDragon | usp |
| 01:34.35 | BorgDragon | sup* |
| 01:34.40 | nolliepoper | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG_wUqy_JX4 |
| 01:34.53 | nolliepoper | it is uploaded already I had to wait for 0% - 100% |
| 01:34.57 | nolliepoper | but now it is processing |
| 01:35.02 | BorgDragon | ooh |
| 01:35.15 | BorgDragon | maybe they're lagging |
| 01:35.17 | BorgDragon | right now |
| 01:35.25 | SiNiquity | Ok so ez question: How do you the the current "food" for a player like in that Char mission where you need 100 food before the [nospoiler] "event" happens |
| 01:35.25 | BorgDragon | my upload earlier today went smooth and quick |
| 01:35.29 | BorgDragon | and processed pretty damn fast |
| 01:35.42 | nolliepoper | yeah I uploaded last night so fast. |
| 01:35.47 | Acemore | BorgDragon isn't it a pain for you to convert to dds? |
| 01:35.56 | BorgDragon | I don't know Acemore :P |
| 01:35.59 | nolliepoper | easy with Gimp and a pluggin. |
| 01:36.01 | BorgDragon | I never done it before lol |
| 01:36.05 | SiNiquity | Surely I don't have to count the food of every trained / killed unit right? :( |
| 01:36.05 | Acemore | kk |
| 01:36.10 | BorgDragon | I was just saying extract, color, then import :P |
| 01:36.17 | Acemore | nolliepoper i use photoshop 32bit nvidia plugin |
| 01:36.20 | BorgDragon | I no nothing about changing the format to fit |
| 01:36.27 | nolliepoper | I dunno what the hell tha tis. |
| 01:36.30 | Acemore | hated having to install 32 bit version though |
| 01:36.42 | BorgDragon | ack 32 bit lol |
| 01:36.47 | nolliepoper | gimp? |
| 01:36.51 | Acemore | photoshop |
| 01:37.00 | BorgDragon | omg |
| 01:37.01 | nolliepoper | gimp is photoshop. |
| 01:37.06 | BorgDragon | one of my lenses for my glasses just fell out |
| 01:37.10 | nolliepoper | gnu image manipulating program. |
| 01:37.48 | SiNiquity | monocles are better anyway :D |
| 01:38.00 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 01:38.15 | BorgDragon | but both my eyes are fukked |
| 01:38.22 | SiNiquity | get 2 monocles then |
| 01:38.25 | Acemore | rofl |
| 01:38.25 | SiNiquity | you'll be 2x awesome |
| 01:38.31 | BorgDragon | LOOL |
| 01:38.41 | Acemore | or |
| 01:38.41 | Skizot | bionocles! |
| 01:38.50 | Acemore | 1 monocle, one eyepatch |
| 01:38.57 | Acemore | sofisticated pirate, rawr! |
| 01:39.07 | Skizot | a piratey gentleman! |
| 01:39.09 | BorgDragon | fuck pirates |
| 01:39.10 | Acemore | ^^ |
| 01:39.12 | BorgDragon | i am not a pirate |
| 01:39.14 | BorgDragon | I am a Ninja |
| 01:39.20 | BorgDragon | vanishes |
| 01:39.25 | nolliepoper | where did you come from skizot? |
| 01:39.44 | Skizot | the darkest nether of the firey pit |
| 01:39.50 | BorgDragon | from a womb ? |
| 01:40.05 | Skizot | aka my moms womb. |
| 01:40.09 | nolliepoper | he suprized us all with prirate stuffs |
| 01:40.49 | nolliepoper | skizot wut do? >> |
| 01:40.50 | nolliepoper | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:41.21 | nolliepoper | what is a status bar? |
| 01:41.34 | BorgDragon | its like a gentleman's bar |
| 01:41.41 | BorgDragon | you must have status befor they let you in |
| 01:41.45 | SiNiquity | bars that people with monocles go to |
| 01:41.50 | BorgDragon | WOOT! |
| 01:41.54 | nolliepoper | mind blow |
| 01:41.59 | BorgDragon | equips a monocle and an eye patch |
| 01:42.15 | nolliepoper | how do emote |
| 01:42.44 | nolliepoper | ./tell me more emote |
| 01:42.46 | BorgDragon | type /me |
| 01:42.50 | BorgDragon | smell |
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| 01:42.59 | SiNiquity | :o |
| 01:43.16 | nolliepoper | likes status bars |
| 01:43.22 | nolliepoper | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.24 | nolliepoper | wut do? |
| 01:43.43 | nolliepoper | I thought it was the bar showing health and energy but it doesn't work. |
| 01:43.49 | Aussie123 | has onetwo uploaded his videos somewhere i can download them? youtube sucks |
| 01:44.21 | BorgDragon | i dont think so |
| 01:44.27 | BorgDragon | send him a PM on mapster |
| 01:44.32 | Aussie123 | a torrent of them would be nice |
| 01:44.52 | Aussie123 | eh ill just have to use keepvid |
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| 01:46.36 | nolliepoper | yeah it is too bad firefox is slow. |
| 01:46.44 | nolliepoper | only use it for plugins now. |
| 01:46.47 | BorgDragon | hey nollie |
| 01:46.51 | nolliepoper | wut |
| 01:46.53 | BorgDragon | whats your vid about? |
| 01:47.00 | BorgDragon | i see the title. |
| 01:47.06 | nolliepoper | no I not talking to anyone until. |
| 01:47.07 | nolliepoper | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.13 | nolliepoper | y no work? |
| 01:47.40 | nolliepoper | gos into rage |
| 01:47.42 | BorgDragon | do you have your stat bar set to always ? |
| 01:47.46 | BorgDragon | or selected? |
| 01:47.56 | BorgDragon | in the default Options? |
| 01:48.01 | nolliepoper | idk and idk |
| 01:48.07 | nolliepoper | I don't want to do that |
| 01:48.08 | BorgDragon | isn't the status bar just the HP/Mana ? |
| 01:48.21 | nolliepoper | That is what I thought. |
| 01:48.33 | nolliepoper | But I don't want everyone who plays my map to have to mess with their options |
| 01:48.44 | nolliepoper | I was trying to keep them perma enabled via triggers |
| 01:49.06 | BorgDragon | so are you testing with your default options set to never or whatever? |
| 01:49.19 | BorgDragon | er, on highlight I mean |
| 01:49.39 | nolliepoper | it is set on normal |
| 01:50.01 | nolliepoper | what does highlight have to do with showing that bar? |
| 01:50.18 | BorgDragon | its just an option for the way it enables by default |
| 01:50.37 | BorgDragon | there's Selected, there's Normal(Highlight/Hover over unit) and there's Always |
| 01:50.39 | nolliepoper | I want it to always show |
| 01:50.51 | nolliepoper | forget about the options ahah |
| 01:50.54 | BorgDragon | I was just sayin |
| 01:50.56 | nolliepoper | k |
| 01:51.21 | nolliepoper | they show when I hit alt. |
| 01:51.26 | BorgDragon | vid still not processed |
| 01:52.01 | nolliepoper | lul |
| 01:52.05 | nolliepoper | u keep refreshing |
| 01:52.23 | BorgDragon | nah |
| 01:52.32 | BorgDragon | I left it open, just refreshed now for the first time |
| 01:52.35 | nolliepoper | tell me about the rabbits George |
| 01:52.41 | BorgDragon | well, there's 4 of them |
| 01:52.51 | BorgDragon | ones pink, 2 are blue, and the other one starred in that movie... |
| 01:53.13 | BorgDragon | I can't believe I have to wait another like... |
| 01:53.20 | BorgDragon | 3-4 days for the next WDE |
| 01:53.34 | nolliepoper | WDE? |
| 01:53.52 | BorgDragon | Weekly Data Exercise |
| 01:54.17 | nolliepoper | prozaic muze tutorials? |
| 01:54.48 | nolliepoper | is that what you want weekly? |
| 01:55.01 | nolliepoper | or is that the data exercise you are talking about? |
| 01:55.15 | SiNiquity | has blizzard made a text -> string yet? :\ |
| 01:55.45 | nolliepoper | in triggers? |
| 01:55.47 | SiNiquity | ya |
| 01:56.08 | nolliepoper | you can make all kinds of stuff with triggers |
| 01:56.16 | nolliepoper | you good? |
| 01:56.35 | SiNiquity | decent with triggers I suppose |
| 01:56.49 | SiNiquity | C programmer by trade but still learning blizzard's system |
| 01:57.00 | nolliepoper | Java over here broski |
| 01:57.22 | nolliepoper | but yeah in triggers you cand o everything from text to strings and most the conversions are already setup for you. |
| 01:57.48 | SiNiquity | I thought text -> string was one that was missing, which generated a lot of complaints |
| 01:58.41 | nolliepoper | tru |
| 01:59.29 | nolliepoper | BorgDragon the video has been processed. |
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| 02:06.10 | BorgDragon | cool |
| 02:06.22 | nolliepoper | yundastand? |
| 02:06.46 | BorgDragon | not yet |
| 02:06.55 | nolliepoper | keep watching? |
| 02:07.04 | BorgDragon | about to start it |
| 02:07.12 | nolliepoper | make sure it is on HD |
| 02:07.14 | nolliepoper | yeah baby |
| 02:07.53 | BorgDragon | there's your problem |
| 02:08.08 | BorgDragon | you want it to be uninterruptible while casting? |
| 02:08.15 | BorgDragon | uninterruptible - Prep |
| 02:08.22 | BorgDragon | is the "walk towards unit" phase |
| 02:08.24 | BorgDragon | if htey are out of range |
| 02:08.26 | nolliepoper | that is the casting |
| 02:08.31 | BorgDragon | no |
| 02:09.01 | lotharscm | anyone on north america that can help test a map plz plz |
| 02:09.06 | nolliepoper | no man when I set the prepair time to 1.75 that is what my casting bar. |
| 02:09.18 | BorgDragon | try changing from prep to cast |
| 02:09.24 | nolliepoper | that adjust the time of that bar in the unit info. |
| 02:09.34 | nolliepoper | no you don't undestand my issue |
| 02:09.48 | nolliepoper | in the 2nd half of the video is the way I want it to be. |
| 02:10.01 | nolliepoper | where I wait until it is casted. |
| 02:10.12 | nolliepoper | but I need to be able to cancle it. |
| 02:10.14 | nolliepoper | with esc |
| 02:10.25 | lotharscm | anyone who can help test a map? |
| 02:10.29 | lotharscm | bounty stop being idle |
| 02:10.44 | BorgDragon | you are unable to cancel with escape during the second half? |
| 02:10.53 | nolliepoper | yassir |
| 02:11.14 | BorgDragon | then add a checkmark |
| 02:11.20 | BorgDragon | in the Cancelable - Prep field |
| 02:11.36 | BorgDragon | uninterruptible only controls it's rihgt clicking / cast other ability type interruptions |
| 02:11.42 | nolliepoper | no because then abilities will cancle it just like I show in the begging of the video |
| 02:12.07 | nolliepoper | the move fuction cancles some of those cast. |
| 02:12.09 | nolliepoper | in the first half. |
| 02:12.15 | nolliepoper | move abiltity* |
| 02:12.33 | nolliepoper | I g2g swimming tho. |
| 02:12.37 | BorgDragon | by right clicking? |
| 02:12.44 | nolliepoper | yes |
| 02:12.50 | nolliepoper | by right clicking. |
| 02:13.49 | nolliepoper | be back later |
| 02:14.38 | BorgDragon | just add a cancel button to the ability itself, then. |
| 02:14.44 | BorgDragon | ? |
| 02:14.47 | BorgDragon | kind of like cloak |
| 02:14.59 | BorgDragon | SHOULD be possible |
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| 02:18.43 | BorgDragon|Work | gah, work bloooows |
| 02:18.46 | BorgDragon|Work | getting ready |
| 02:19.19 | SiNiquity | :o |
| 02:19.28 | SiNiquity | It's a bit early for work even in Europe |
| 02:26.22 | nolliepoper | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.49 | Bounty | hooooly shit |
| 02:41.52 | Bounty | my head hurts |
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| 03:20.26 | CLef-namestolen | So i've been playing around with the help panel and have been able to make a new category but i cannot seem to name it.it's named "Ui/Helpmenudialog..." |
| 03:20.42 | CLef-namestolen | anyone know where i can find it to name that category? |
| 03:20.58 | CLef-namestolen | i've scoured the libraries/data editor and can't seem to locate it |
| 03:22.48 | CLef-namestolen | no advice? |
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| 03:28.16 | SiNiquity | hmm |
| 03:28.29 | SiNiquity | I haven't messed with the help panel at all |
| 03:28.42 | SiNiquity | How did you make the new category? |
| 03:34.47 | SiNiquity | Ok, this question is stupid easy, and it's driving me mad. How do I tell how much supply a player currently has via triggers? |
| 03:35.38 | SiNiquity | -without- keeping a counter around and adding / subtracting units as they're created / killed. Because that's asinine and shouldn't be necessary (the game already computes it). |
| 03:40.25 | SiNiquity | :( |
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| 04:34.54 | jorgenpt | SiNiquity: there's a function that returns int |
| 04:35.10 | jorgenpt | SiNiquity: Or maybe float because it's silly (resources in general) |
| 04:35.11 | SiNiquity | ? |
| 04:35.17 | jorgenpt | SiNiquity: Let me look up the name. |
| 04:35.41 | jorgenpt | It's called something like Player Property or something? |
| 04:36.23 | SiNiquity | yeaa.. :( |
| 04:36.25 | SiNiquity | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/608631413?page=26 |
| 04:36.51 | SiNiquity | There's a Triggering Player Property Change (listening on a Player Property Changed event) |
| 04:37.04 | SiNiquity | Long story short, it's broken (like half the things in this editor it seems). :( |
| 04:37.27 | SiNiquity | Unless I'm just crazy. Which is 100% possible. |
| 04:37.38 | jorgenpt | Why do you need the trigger to execute? |
| 04:38.18 | jorgenpt | If you need the amount, just cal the function "Player Property" with the "Supplies Used" parameter. |
| 04:39.33 | SiNiquity | Bloops. :( lol I missed it because I was looking for a Real :\ |
| 04:41.48 | MeSoHorner|WB | anyone willing to help me playtest? the more the merrier |
| 04:43.05 | jorgenpt | SiNiquity: So how are you retrieving the supply used in the trigger that is fired? |
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| 04:43.43 | SiNiquity | Now? I'm just grabbing the property directly :D |
| 04:43.59 | jorgenpt | SiNiquity: No, the bug you're talking about |
| 04:44.38 | SiNiquity | Ah. I was using Triggering Property Changed (Real) or something to that effect |
| 04:45.05 | jorgenpt | SiNiquity: There's nothing in the documentation for Player Property Changed to indicate that that's a valid function to use there |
| 04:45.49 | SiNiquity | Use "Triggering Player Property" to get the property that changed. <-- says the docs |
| 04:46.03 | jorgenpt | SiNiquity: Yes, that's WHICH property changed, not how much |
| 04:46.07 | jorgenpt | As I read it, at least. |
| 04:46.24 | jorgenpt | So you'd use Player Property (Triggering Property Changed) |
| 04:46.28 | SiNiquity | ah, correct |
| 04:46.30 | MeSoHorner|WB | putting it out again, anyone who can help me playtest, i need more people. please! :) contact MeSoHorner.921 |
| 04:46.36 | SiNiquity | I'm using "Triggering player property change" |
| 04:47.26 | SiNiquity | Which, while not explicitly named in the docs, isn't greyed out. And it appears to sort of work. |
| 04:47.57 | SiNiquity | It just fires twice for unit training, once at the start and once at the end. But it's not entirely consistent. |
| 04:48.00 | jorgenpt | The docs for that function does indicate it should work, yeah |
| 04:48.47 | jorgenpt | What happens if you use the (Integer) version? |
| 04:48.59 | jorgenpt | (My computer is too slow to do anything useful with SC2 right now, so I can't test) |
| 04:52.15 | SiNiquity | checking.. |
| 04:52.34 | SiNiquity | building zergling: beginning, supplies changed by 1 (both methods) |
| 04:52.53 | SiNiquity | (that's @ start of training) |
| 04:53.00 | SiNiquity | @ end: 0.5 (real), 0 (int) |
| 04:53.17 | jorgenpt | Hah, that's weird. :-) |
| 04:53.21 | SiNiquity | it's the end bit that's anomalous anyway. the supply doesn't change once the unit finishes, yet it triggers :( |
| 04:53.37 | jorgenpt | Yeah, you should definitely mention that in the thread (and the results of your experiments) |
| 04:53.54 | jorgenpt | Is it the same for say, a marine? |
| 05:06.34 | SiNiquity | Yeah, it's still got the anomaly at the end |
| 05:06.59 | SiNiquity | It's just easier to correct for since you could just subtract off the unit's food upon completion in the supply counter |
| 05:07.22 | SiNiquity | Which is what I was doing (and it worked, although it was a crazy amount of work for something so simple) |
| 05:07.35 | SiNiquity | Until I tried zerglings. Then it just threw everything into a mess :\ |
| 05:13.19 | SiNiquity | But anyway ~ many thanks for pointing out the obvious direct access to Player Properties (not changes) :D |
| 05:13.23 | jorgenpt | :-) |
| 05:13.25 | SiNiquity | I knew it was something stupidly obvious like that |
| 05:13.27 | jorgenpt | Glad you got it worked out |
| 05:13.27 | SiNiquity | lol |
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| 05:15.17 | CLef-namestolen | i made the new help panel category by data editing a new race (not important to it i think) then going to the unit's tech tree and changing where it is placed in units |
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| 06:40.46 | currydevil | http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8454/buggyworm.png any ideas? =X |
| 06:41.19 | currydevil | i want to fix it! =( |
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| 07:00.47 | currydevil | so, after initial searching, I have concluded it's impossible to use a create unit trigger to make a zerg drop pod? |
| 07:01.06 | Bounty | well |
| 07:01.16 | Bounty | did you try create effect? |
| 07:01.18 | Bounty | maybe its an effect |
| 07:01.24 | currydevil | no, just unit for the moment |
| 07:01.33 | Bounty | easy fix |
| 07:01.42 | Bounty | duplicate some unit |
| 07:01.45 | Bounty | and change its model |
| 07:01.47 | Bounty | :) |
| 07:01.59 | Bounty | guaranteed to work |
| 07:02.07 | Bounty | bc thats how my projectile system works lol |
| 07:02.35 | currydevil | well |
| 07:02.42 | currydevil | I don't want to just remodel a unit |
| 07:02.48 | currydevil | I want a drop pod to fall from the sky. |
| 07:03.12 | currydevil | because it seems my nydus worms are fucked up for this map, and I don't know how to fix them |
| 07:03.32 | currydevil | http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8454/buggyworm.png |
| 07:03.35 | Bounty | hmm |
| 07:03.52 | Bounty | what am i looking at exactly |
| 07:03.52 | Bounty | rofl |
| 07:04.07 | currydevil | well, you're looking at suspended animation zerg units... |
| 07:04.20 | currydevil | however, they will drop to the ground and perform idle animations |
| 07:04.26 | currydevil | then go back to hanging like that |
| 07:04.34 | currydevil | or, if I get them into combat immediately, they are fine. |
| 07:04.56 | currydevil | i've riddled the section of the trigger with attack orders |
| 07:05.05 | Bounty | what about send actor message? |
| 07:05.07 | currydevil | but it still takes a couple seconds at times for them to be fixed |
| 07:05.09 | Bounty | play animation |
| 07:05.32 | currydevil | well, all i've done is told the stupid nydus worm to unload... i've never seen this before |
| 07:05.53 | Bounty | honestly ive never even done much with zerg |
| 07:05.56 | Bounty | except kerrigan |
| 07:05.59 | Bounty | i find them boring :) |
| 07:06.12 | Bounty | but i would think the drop pod would work like the MULE effect |
| 07:11.10 | allenmelon | ohai bounty |
| 07:11.26 | Bounty | Hai |
| 07:11.31 | Bounty | u know what sucks |
| 07:11.36 | allenmelon | ? |
| 07:11.42 | Bounty | when ur at 10.1mb map size |
| 07:11.50 | Bounty | and u want to do alot more |
| 07:11.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:11.55 | allenmelon | :O |
| 07:12.06 | Bounty | im trying to compress the music but |
| 07:12.10 | Bounty | i cant go below 96kb |
| 07:12.13 | Bounty | i just cant |
| 07:12.15 | allenmelon | D: |
| 07:12.18 | Bounty | it wouldnt even be music at that point |
| 07:12.20 | Bounty | just ruffles |
| 07:12.31 | allenmelon | lol |
| 07:12.32 | allenmelon | yeah |
| 07:12.39 | Bounty | even to me |
| 07:12.41 | Bounty | 96 sounds like shit |
| 07:12.46 | Bounty | 128 sounds alot better |
| 07:12.49 | Bounty | but w/e |
| 07:12.52 | allenmelon | wat map? |
| 07:12.56 | Bounty | Win the Crowd |
| 07:13.01 | Bounty | i just imported the main theme for the game |
| 07:13.03 | allenmelon | o yah |
| 07:13.09 | Bounty | took awhile to choose it |
| 07:13.13 | Bounty | i think it fits perfectly |
| 07:13.15 | Bounty | and everyone will know it |
| 07:13.57 | currydevil | hmm, looking at the first Hanson mission, the drop pods are ordered to attack |
| 07:14.07 | currydevil | well, the zerg player is ordered to attack with drop pod |
| 07:14.35 | currydevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:15.54 | currydevil | and Blizz is a little free with the use of the word spooge. |
| 07:19.58 | currydevil | interesting, and it looks like blizz fakes the unloading of the units |
| 07:20.10 | currydevil | creates the nydus, plays animations |
| 07:20.13 | currydevil | and creates the units |
| 07:22.52 | Cintiq | what's the point of that? |
| 07:23.23 | Bounty | that sounds like something i would do |
| 07:23.34 | Bounty | If it works, fuck it |
| 07:23.34 | Cintiq | :L |
| 07:23.36 | Bounty | thats my motto |
| 07:23.47 | Bounty | in all of life |
| 07:23.49 | Bounty | >< |
| 07:24.48 | currydevil | what's the point of that Cintiq? |
| 07:24.51 | currydevil | i'll show you |
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| 07:25.03 | currydevil | doing it properly gives you crap like this... |
| 07:25.21 | currydevil | http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8454/buggyworm.png |
| 07:25.33 | currydevil | creating the nydus, creating cargo units for it, and unloading it. |
| 07:25.38 | Cintiq | oh that was you |
| 07:25.39 | Cintiq | loll |
| 07:25.49 | Cintiq | i still stand by that it looks cool |
| 07:25.54 | currydevil | xD |
| 07:26.06 | currydevil | I suppose, until you see one of them drop to the ground.. do an idle animation |
| 07:26.11 | currydevil | and then jump back up |
| 07:26.28 | Dryeyece | Hey guys, this may sound like a stupid question but I just can't figure it out, how do you give using an item a cooldown? |
| 07:26.39 | Dryeyece | like the item iteself |
| 07:26.53 | currydevil | charge use cooldown |
| 07:26.57 | currydevil | i believe.. |
| 07:27.04 | currydevil | on the stats for the item.. |
| 07:27.11 | currydevil | let me check |
| 07:27.36 | Dryeyece | I tried that |
| 07:27.57 | currydevil | you tried "time use" under cooldown? |
| 07:28.18 | Dryeyece | yes and under charges |
| 07:28.31 | Dryeyece | neither of them made the item have a CD |
| 07:28.50 | currydevil | well I don't know what to tell you.. i've made a potion item have a cd after using a charge. |
| 07:28.58 | currydevil | but then again |
| 07:29.03 | currydevil | you're not using charges are you? |
| 07:29.04 | Dryeyece | yours has charges |
| 07:29.07 | Dryeyece | mine doesnt |
| 07:29.20 | Dryeyece | im thinking of making it though |
| 07:29.30 | currydevil | you tried effect cost: time use? |
| 07:29.33 | Dryeyece | you ever play fate or torchlight? |
| 07:29.46 | currydevil | no\ |
| 07:29.48 | Dryeyece | I made a town portal using data/triggers just cant get the dang thing to have a CD |
| 07:29.57 | Dryeyece | item that ports you to places basuically |
| 07:30.05 | Dryeyece | and one that returns you to where you were |
| 07:30.16 | Dryeyece | but like I said cant make the dang CD's work lol |
| 07:32.02 | currydevil | so what is it exactly? an item providing a skill? |
| 07:32.53 | lotharscm | you have the cooldown location set to unit? |
| 07:34.24 | Dryeyece | it applies a behavior via an apply behavior effect |
| 07:35.02 | Dryeyece | behavior basically just validates a trigger and lets it move the unit |
| 07:35.48 | currydevil | i have a very simlilar set up, but it doesn't use items |
| 07:35.58 | currydevil | just area specific behaviors |
| 07:36.06 | currydevil | and showing a skill based on that area |
| 07:36.10 | currydevil | and the ability has a cd |
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| 07:50.11 | Bounty | man |
| 07:50.17 | Bounty | space is getting tight on win the crowd |
| 07:50.24 | Bounty | now i have to have ONE boss theme :( |
| 07:50.30 | currydevil | lol.... |
| 07:50.31 | Bounty | mother fucker |
| 07:50.38 | Bounty | all i need is like |
| 07:50.38 | currydevil | 8 bit! |
| 07:50.40 | Bounty | 3 more mb |
| 07:50.42 | Bounty | just 3 |
| 07:50.43 | currydevil | c'mon! you can do it! |
| 07:50.51 | currydevil | tetris ! |
| 07:50.56 | Bounty | nah ive got everything to 128kbs |
| 07:50.59 | currydevil | metroid! |
| 07:51.00 | Bounty | like 6 mp3's |
| 07:51.03 | Bounty | and 5 models |
| 07:51.09 | Bounty | i dont think i can add anymore |
| 07:51.10 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:51.11 | currydevil | but but.. 8 bit themes would be ... =O |
| 07:51.17 | Bounty | not for this game |
| 07:51.21 | Bounty | it would kill the mood :) |
| 07:51.21 | currydevil | you sure? ;) |
| 07:51.31 | Bounty | You've seen the game curry@ |
| 07:51.33 | Bounty | cmon now |
| 07:51.36 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:51.45 | currydevil | but but, 8 bit! |
| 07:51.52 | currydevil | you know how much space you could have.. |
| 07:51.57 | Dryeyece | stupid thing doesnt use up charges either |
| 07:52.05 | Bounty | You know how much atmosphere i could lose.... |
| 07:52.08 | Bounty | =P |
| 07:52.18 | currydevil | lol |
| 07:52.31 | Bounty | You saw the final boss entrance right curry |
| 07:52.32 | Bounty | ? |
| 07:52.40 | currydevil | the final? no |
| 07:52.48 | currydevil | only the anubisath and the two ethereals |
| 07:52.54 | Bounty | ah |
| 07:52.55 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjeUfrohdKk |
| 07:52.57 | Bounty | ok well watch that |
| 07:53.05 | Bounty | and tell me that should be 8 bit |
| 07:53.07 | Bounty | rofl |
| 07:53.19 | Bounty | :) |
| 07:54.38 | currydevil | hah, what's that like... warlock armor? |
| 07:54.47 | Bounty | for who |
| 07:54.49 | Bounty | the boss? |
| 07:54.52 | currydevil | mhm |
| 07:54.53 | Bounty | no |
| 07:54.56 | Bounty | thats Deathwing :) |
| 07:55.02 | currydevil | the shoulders are definately a cloth piece.. |
| 07:55.09 | currydevil | oh well i've seen nothing from Cata yet. |
| 07:55.23 | currydevil | how dare you spoil it for me? lol |
| 07:55.29 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:55.39 | Bounty | oh please its no big surprise deathwing makes an appearance |
| 07:55.40 | Bounty | >< |
| 07:55.44 | currydevil | still recycled warlock models ;) |
| 07:55.51 | Bounty | but yeah |
| 07:55.58 | Bounty | i think i should send that video to blizz |
| 07:56.00 | Bounty | and be like |
| 07:56.04 | Bounty | This is why we need more map space |
| 07:56.21 | Bounty | so i can pack tons of shit like that in one map |
| 07:56.57 | Bounty | What really put me close to the limit tonight was adding the games main theme |
| 07:57.03 | Bounty | im at like 10.1 |
| 07:57.05 | Bounty | mb |
| 07:57.13 | currydevil | hah |
| 07:57.24 | Bounty | i may have to cut the game short |
| 07:57.33 | Bounty | im not sacrificing quality lol |
| 07:57.43 | Bounty | game is only supposed to have 9 levels |
| 07:57.47 | Bounty | may have to cut that to 6 |
| 08:00.18 | Bounty | not like it matters neway |
| 08:00.26 | Bounty | Game will be on like page 200 |
| 08:00.42 | Bounty | It has Anti Pop List Features :) |
| 08:05.54 | Dryeyece | Resolved 8) |
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| 09:04.55 | Pierrot | Hi all |
| 09:04.56 | Pierrot | ! |
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| 09:09.47 | Net | Salut Pierrot |
| 09:11.54 | Pierrot | Salut |
| 09:11.57 | Pierrot | Net |
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| 09:17.31 | Pierrot | Any EU players who want to test my new map ? |
| 09:18.07 | Helral|Work | yes. *grins* |
| 09:18.13 | Pierrot | yeah |
| 09:18.15 | Pierrot | :) |
| 09:18.16 | Helral|Work | but I can't atm I'm at work :P |
| 09:18.20 | Pierrot | ah |
| 09:18.59 | Helral|Work | lame responces: some asks: any one knows how to do ..... ? reply: Yes, but not me :P |
| 09:19.51 | Helral|Work | what kind of map is it Pierrot? |
| 09:21.15 | Pierrot | Its is an action map |
| 09:21.32 | Pierrot | The one you helped me to make a truck distance tracking |
| 09:21.40 | Helral|Work | ahhhh |
| 09:22.04 | Pierrot | I made 5 classes right now |
| 09:22.08 | Helral|Work | and does it work now? |
| 09:22.11 | Pierrot | yup |
| 09:22.14 | Pierrot | perfectly |
| 09:22.23 | Helral|Work | good |
| 09:22.28 | Pierrot | the fun fact about it |
| 09:22.38 | Pierrot | is that it appears to me in a dream |
| 09:22.48 | Pierrot | like the guy who invented the periodic table |
| 09:23.03 | Pierrot | well it is working |
| 09:23.09 | Helral|Work | the static table was already invented wasn't it ;p |
| 09:23.27 | Pierrot | well he didnt know how to sort them |
| 09:23.58 | Helral|Work | that's a dynamic table ;p |
| 09:24.07 | Helral|Work | also content can change in the last one ;p |
| 09:24.21 | Helral|Work | btw I can sort static tables |
| 09:24.34 | Pierrot | no no no |
| 09:24.43 | Pierrot | i think we r discussing different matter |
| 09:24.45 | Pierrot | :) |
| 09:24.53 | Helral|Work | yes we are :) |
| 09:24.57 | Pierrot | You know the element that form matter |
| 09:25.02 | Pierrot | like iron gold carbon |
| 09:25.05 | Pierrot | etc |
| 09:25.11 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 09:25.28 | Pierrot | the guys who invented the system to catalog them |
| 09:25.34 | Pierrot | had the idea in a dream |
| 09:25.59 | Helral|Work | you mean like the new element Iron Man made in the Iron Man 2 movie? |
| 09:27.11 | Helral|Work | so how did he catalog them? from small to large? |
| 09:29.15 | Pierrot | kinda yes |
| 09:29.22 | Pierrot | number of electron if i m correct |
| 09:29.28 | Pierrot | the first is hydrogen |
| 09:29.33 | Pierrot | with 1 electron |
| 09:29.38 | Pierrot | then |
| 09:29.42 | Pierrot | google it !! |
| 09:29.45 | Pierrot | :) |
| 09:29.45 | Mephs | homosexuals are made of the element gayon |
| 09:29.47 | Helral|Work | at what spot is He? |
| 09:29.54 | Pierrot | the first |
| 09:29.56 | Pierrot | no |
| 09:29.59 | Pierrot | the third i guess |
| 09:30.03 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 09:30.16 | Helral|Work | tough question isn't it ;p |
| 09:30.30 | Pierrot | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_table |
| 09:30.38 | Helral|Work | and Ber? |
| 09:30.45 | Pierrot | 18 |
| 09:30.47 | Pierrot | ber is |
| 09:31.13 | Helral|Work | and AG? |
| 09:32.14 | Pierrot | ag 47 |
| 09:32.20 | Helral|Work | and Mephs? |
| 09:32.26 | Pierrot | 69 |
| 09:32.30 | Helral|Work | roflol |
| 09:32.36 | currydevil | user defined exception |
| 09:32.42 | currydevil | cannot process |
| 09:32.48 | currydevil | or 69 |
| 09:32.50 | currydevil | that works too |
| 09:32.53 | Helral|Work | and currydevil? |
| 09:32.58 | currydevil | 1337 |
| 09:32.59 | currydevil | =X |
| 09:33.00 | Pierrot | 101 |
| 09:33.08 | Helral|Work | and Pierrot? |
| 09:33.19 | Pierrot | i m not discovered yet |
| 09:33.32 | Helral|Work | and the evil kitten that is lurking in this channel? |
| 09:33.45 | currydevil | basement cat! |
| 09:33.49 | Pierrot | Cannot process demand |
| 09:33.51 | Helral|Work | ~Helral |
| 09:33.51 | purl | helral is probably an evil random kitten |
| 09:33.52 | Pierrot | be more specific |
| 09:34.02 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 09:34.53 | Helral|Work | and Arthas-? |
| 09:35.46 | Pierrot | 2 |
| 09:36.18 | Helral|Work | and O |
| 09:38.21 | Helral|Work | and NaCl? |
| 09:39.08 | Helral|Work | and Pierrot, found someone to help you test yet? |
| 09:39.14 | Pierrot | no |
| 09:39.18 | Pierrot | :( |
| 09:45.02 | Pierrot | Any EU players who want to play my map ? Its an action style map. |
| 10:26.20 | Dekar | i guess i could test it |
| 10:26.27 | Dekar | Pierrot |
| 10:27.08 | Pierrot | dekar cool |
| 10:27.13 | Pierrot | jsut fixin stuff |
| 10:27.15 | Pierrot | and i host |
| 10:27.16 | Dekar | ok |
| 10:28.38 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:29.46 | Helral|Work | Pierrot: my first response to your question was correct it seems :P |
| 10:29.56 | Pierrot | You can test it |
| 10:30.03 | Pierrot | but you r at work ? |
| 10:30.04 | Pierrot | :) |
| 10:30.27 | Helral|Work | no. you're question was if any one could test it. my response was yes. and now you see who can. Dekar. |
| 10:30.37 | Helral|Work | your* |
| 10:30.56 | Dekar | comes to the rescue |
| 10:31.00 | Pierrot | Now patching to new version |
| 10:31.12 | Helral|Work | watches super Dekar flying to the rescue on a .... |
| 10:31.20 | Dekar | tricycle! |
| 10:31.27 | Helral|Work | exactly..... |
| 10:31.38 | Dekar | with giant wheels! |
| 10:31.57 | Helral|Work | watches a flying tricycle with giant wheels passing by.... |
| 10:32.11 | Helral|Work | punctures one of the wheels. |
| 10:32.15 | Helral|Work | meows innocently |
| 10:32.49 | Pierrot | Now hosting |
| 10:33.05 | Pierrot | Pierrot.341 |
| 10:36.13 | Dekar | ah |
| 10:36.14 | Dekar | ok |
| 10:36.17 | Pierrot | lol |
| 10:36.19 | Dekar | :< |
| 10:36.24 | Dekar | didnt see it |
| 10:37.04 | Pierrot | Come on people ! Who wants to join us for a fun action map (and quick) |
| 10:41.47 | Helral|Work | holds up hand. sees employer look strangely at him, puts hand down again. |
| 10:43.26 | Helral|Work | is annoyed by FF handling of mousedown+mousemove in textarea's. |
| 10:51.15 | A1win | wooo my attack wave script works, no more need for campaign AI :3 |
| 10:51.46 | A1win | and no more dummy computer in the lobby |
| 10:52.44 | A1win | hmm... why do my hydralisks unburrow even though there are no enemies near them :S |
| 10:54.55 | Helral|Work | the computer unburrows them? |
| 10:55.05 | Helral|Work | do you have burrow researched for that player? |
| 10:57.45 | A1win | don't have burrow, but I don't have AI enabled |
| 10:58.00 | A1win | and the autocast has the search enemy filter that has to be > 0 to pass |
| 10:59.10 | A1win | seems it doesn't work for the other units as well as it did for drone :P |
| 10:59.28 | A1win | now I researched burrow and they all started unburrowing as soon as they burrow |
| 11:00.08 | A1win | hmm |
| 11:00.24 | A1win | but only those who I gave a range of 8 for the search, those with 5 still work O_o |
| 11:00.39 | A1win | and it's an exact copy of it, just with longer radius... |
| 11:01.14 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 11:01.15 | Dekar | lands with his tricycle, only to crash due to a flat wheel! |
| 11:01.25 | Dekar | ow! |
| 11:01.27 | Helral|Work | meows innocently |
| 11:02.01 | A1win | oh... they keep doing it even if I change it to the 5 radius one |
| 11:02.45 | Helral|Work | assume you talking about an unburrow search? |
| 11:02.46 | A1win | soo it's not that, mmf |
| 11:02.51 | A1win | yeah |
| 11:03.12 | A1win | I mean the validator that searches for enemies to allow unburrow autocast |
| 11:03.28 | Helral|Work | why set it for autocast? |
| 11:03.36 | Helral|Work | why not disable autocast and use a behavior? |
| 11:03.49 | A1win | I'd need to make the behavior first :P |
| 11:03.57 | Helral|Work | With my burrow/unburrow test I did the following: |
| 11:04.06 | Helral|Work | 1 behavior for burrow, 1 for unburrow. |
| 11:04.07 | Dekar | isnt that autocast burrow exactly what you can do @ ladder? |
| 11:04.10 | Helral|Work | 1 effect for both |
| 11:04.12 | Dekar | *nuborrow |
| 11:04.20 | Dekar | *whatever |
| 11:04.36 | A1win | I needed more validators for it than the normal search |
| 11:04.39 | Helral|Work | the effect being issue order burrow/unburrow. |
| 11:04.55 | Helral|Work | and a validator to allow ro disallow the effect. |
| 11:05.01 | A1win | mmf |
| 11:05.03 | Helral|Work | ro - or* |
| 11:09.58 | A1win | weird, not all of them keep unburrowing |
| 11:10.16 | A1win | only infestors apparently :P |
| 11:11.36 | A1win | and some hydraisks |
| 11:12.08 | A1win | oh, because the infestors trigger a mass unburrow script... so they chain it to the hydralisks :P it's quite funny though |
| 11:12.19 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 11:12.28 | A1win | they're like making waves in a sports arena |
| 11:12.54 | Helral|Work | like my zergling things from beta? |
| 11:13.05 | A1win | dunno, didn't see it o: |
| 11:13.36 | Helral|Work | I posted it on youtube just look for zergling madness or something. |
| 11:13.53 | Helral|Work | or just look for my channel ;p and look it up there |
| 11:14.02 | A1win | mmh |
| 11:15.06 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJfYC5UuJW4 |
| 11:15.13 | A1win | hehe |
| 11:15.23 | Helral|Work | yeah that's the one :) |
| 11:17.03 | A1win | gaah, why infestors x.x |
| 11:17.53 | A1win | pff it's not just them, disabled autocast from them and some others till keep doing it |
| 11:18.21 | Helral|Work | you watched the entire movie of zergling (un)burrowing |
| 11:18.34 | A1win | mmm, skipped a few seconds here and there though :P |
| 11:18.43 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 11:20.23 | A1win | http://www.livestream.com/a1win take a look :P |
| 11:20.28 | Helral|Work | made it during beta as the upload time shows :) |
| 11:21.45 | A1win | weird |
| 11:21.49 | A1win | only in that one area |
| 11:21.51 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 11:22.00 | A1win | oh there too |
| 11:22.00 | Helral|Work | did you place any unit there of the player? |
| 11:22.10 | A1win | don't think so |
| 11:22.17 | A1win | err |
| 11:22.23 | A1win | it's still the infestors |
| 11:22.28 | A1win | even though I disabled their auto cast O.o |
| 11:22.29 | Helral|Work | do they have a wander ability orso? |
| 11:22.33 | A1win | oh.. just turned it off by default |
| 11:22.49 | A1win | shouldn't |
| 11:22.52 | A1win | why are they moving :P |
| 11:23.06 | Helral|Work | they unburrow because they move apparently ;p |
| 11:23.14 | A1win | ohh, weird |
| 11:23.34 | Dekar | machinae supremancy w00t w00t |
| 11:23.35 | Dekar | :D |
| 11:23.38 | A1win | yep, even without autocast |
| 11:24.20 | A1win | they have Surface for spellcast behavior |
| 11:24.34 | Helral|Work | so what are they casting then? |
| 11:24.39 | A1win | nothing :P |
| 11:24.47 | Helral|Work | you sure? |
| 11:25.06 | A1win | they aren't using energy... |
| 11:25.12 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 11:25.16 | A1win | maybe because they don't have time before they burrow again :E |
| 11:25.50 | Helral|Work | what behaviors does the infestor have? |
| 11:27.31 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 11:27.47 | Helral|Work | and the Infestor-Burrowed unit? |
| 11:27.55 | A1win | none |
| 11:28.03 | *** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (~Raziel@95.76.133.23) |
| 11:28.06 | Helral|Work | does it have unburrow autocast? ;p |
| 11:28.08 | A1win | guess it gets them from the unburrowed one |
| 11:28.13 | A1win | no, I just disabled it |
| 11:28.29 | Helral|Work | hmmmm |
| 11:28.31 | A1win | other units have, and the validator works for them |
| 11:28.33 | A1win | so it's not the autocast |
| 11:28.45 | Helral|Work | so what else does the burrowed unit have... |
| 11:29.18 | A1win | nothing that looks suspicious :E |
| 11:29.27 | Helral|Work | so no monkeys |
| 11:31.11 | A1win | what's enabling this thing... |
| 11:31.25 | A1win | Infestor - Surface For Spell Cast, that's the most suspicious looking thing :P |
| 11:31.36 | Helral|Work | well remove it then ;p |
| 11:31.51 | A1win | I don't know where it's linked x.x |
| 11:32.30 | Helral|Work | rightclick view link |
| 11:33.12 | Helral|Work | or was it describe link |
| 11:34.34 | A1win | has an effect of the same name |
| 11:34.45 | A1win | the behavior is linked from there... but what's causing the effect then |
| 11:35.22 | A1win | it has an unknown validator too :P |
| 11:36.21 | A1win | damn this is slow with livestream on |
| 11:36.25 | Helral|Work | the missing validator? |
| 11:36.37 | A1win | what about it? |
| 11:36.50 | Helral|Work | the reason why it keeps unburrowing. |
| 11:36.55 | A1win | mm dunno |
| 11:37.18 | Helral|Work | try unlinking either the unburrow command from that spelcaster thingy or the spelcaster thingy from the rest. |
| 11:37.51 | A1win | can't find where the spell cast is linked from x.x |
| 11:39.08 | A1win | why does it have unburrow in "abilities disabled" when the behavior is active o.O |
| 11:39.43 | Helral|Work | dunno |
| 11:42.14 | *** join/#sc2mapster Thels (GameBot@ip3e83cdbc.speed.planet.nl) |
| 11:42.57 | A1win | hmm |
| 11:43.43 | A1win | oh |
| 11:43.49 | A1win | explain link :x |
| 11:43.55 | A1win | it's linked from fungal grwoth |
| 11:44.23 | A1win | dunno if it's that then, it's unburrowing even if it has no energy... though maybe it's because of the missing validator |
| 11:45.18 | A1win | bleh |
| 11:45.22 | A1win | they're still doing it though |
| 11:45.47 | A1win | so it wasn't that :P |
| 11:48.10 | A1win | I disabled burrow from them and they're just standing still |
| 11:49.47 | A1win | enabled tunneling claws and they're still unburrowing to move |
| 11:50.03 | A1win | oh yeah do they even need it |
| 11:50.20 | A1win | they're moving underground anyway |
| 11:51.57 | *** join/#sc2mapster anteevy (~anteevy@dslb-188-098-182-024.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:56.33 | A1win | disabled all the spells so it's not them either |
| 12:02.45 | A1win | arggh why are they doing that @.@ |
| 12:04.51 | Dekar | just to mess with you obviously |
| 12:05.18 | A1win | I gave it to my units and they don't do it |
| 12:05.32 | A1win | I mean, I gave infestors to myself |
| 12:05.49 | A1win | so I guess it's something about the hostile player... |
| 12:05.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster IskatuMesk (ae015692@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.1.86.146) |
| 12:06.34 | A1win | hmm |
| 12:06.43 | A1win | maybe it has some wander thing on? |
| 12:06.50 | A1win | on all its units... or something |
| 12:07.34 | A1win | yep :P |
| 12:07.39 | A1win | made it a neutral player and they stopped -.- |
| 12:08.01 | A1win | but now their color gets messed up |
| 12:08.40 | A1win | hmm |
| 12:08.47 | A1win | I can just set their controller to "none" |
| 12:09.32 | A1win | yeah... works now |
| 12:10.11 | A1win | next thing I need is some sort of AI for infestors and queens so they know when to cast their stuff |
| 12:15.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dekar (~Dekar@p4FCEAC81.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:16.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster Xaragoth (~name@pD9FF8078.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:16.22 | A1win | damn, now my attackers are also burrowing whenever they stop moving :P |
| 12:16.32 | A1win | oh yeah, was supposed to just disable burrow for them... |
| 12:21.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster Deaod (~Deaod@p54A4676A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:27.28 | A1win | haha epic, enabled infested terran autocast and it just spits all out instantly |
| 12:29.34 | A1win | and then becomes completely useless :P |
| 12:32.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dekar (~Dekar@p4FCEAEA7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:57.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster Helral (~BenZegvel@84-245-39-192.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 13:03.16 | BorgDragon | suuuuuup |
| 13:09.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster Falsus (~Falsus@c-8b7ae055.1219-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 13:23.42 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (b201e4e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.1.228.233) |
| 13:23.47 | Demonette | Hi guys!! |
| 13:24.09 | Demonette | No much worthy online as i see... |
| 13:24.22 | Demonette | Hi Arthas- hi Xaragoth hi HeyRevolver |
| 13:24.31 | Xaragoth | hello Demonette |
| 13:24.39 | Demonette | Hi else |
| 13:24.39 | Demonette | =D |
| 13:24.39 | BorgDragon | hi Demonette |
| 13:24.51 | Demonette | Hi BorgDragon seems like i'm not to common with your name... sry |
| 13:24.57 | BorgDragon | that's ok ;) |
| 13:25.01 | BorgDragon | just saying hi :) |
| 13:25.09 | Demonette | Think i talked to you last night or? |
| 13:25.17 | BorgDragon | yep |
| 13:25.21 | BorgDragon | or, yesterday morning |
| 13:25.30 | BorgDragon | I didn't do much chit chat last night |
| 13:25.35 | BorgDragon | well, not my time anyways |
| 13:29.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demonette_ (b201e4e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.1.228.233) |
| 13:29.24 | Demonette_ | I dislike these unnoticable disconnection -.- |
| 13:29.32 | BorgDragon | lol ya |
| 13:29.45 | BorgDragon | there ya go :P |
| 13:30.22 | Demonette | Yea... |
| 13:30.26 | Demonette | *sign* |
| 13:30.43 | Demonette | did you said something after my few words before getting kicked? |
| 13:30.55 | BorgDragon | nah |
| 13:31.04 | Demonette | Good |
| 13:31.05 | Demonette | =) |
| 13:31.08 | BorgDragon | =P |
| 13:31.26 | Demonette | Good thingy! Here take this cookie |
| 13:34.01 | BorgDragon | takes the cookie |
| 13:42.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster Helral (~BenZegvel@84-245-39-192.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 13:54.43 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 13:56.16 | BorgDragon | uh uoh |
| 13:56.19 | BorgDragon | hmm, weird |
| 13:56.24 | BorgDragon | pokes the kitty |
| 13:56.39 | Helral|Work | attacks BorgDragon for disturbing his rest |
| 13:57.41 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 13:58.06 | BorgDragon | backs away and grabs a laser light |
| 13:58.17 | BorgDragon | points the laser pointer at the wall near the cat |
| 13:58.35 | Helral|Work | drains the power of the laser pointer while playing with the dot. |
| 14:00.13 | BorgDragon | hooks up the laser pointer to a perpetual motion power generator |
| 14:00.57 | Helral|Work | wonders why the perpetual motion power generator isn't producing enough power to generate the laser pointer light. |
| 14:01.20 | BorgDragon | wonders how a kitty can wonder |
| 14:01.28 | Helral|Work | 's eyes are glowing red. |
| 14:02.21 | BorgDragon | stops wondering |
| 14:02.27 | Helral|Work | blows up the perpetual motion power generator with his laser eyes (powered up by the laser pointer) because it made an annoying sound. |
| 14:02.41 | Helral|Work | meows innocently |
| 14:04.14 | BorgDragon | travels back in time and moves the PMPG over to avoid the laser eye hit |
| 14:04.52 | Helral|Work | blasts BorgDragon because he moved the PMPG and is now standing at the spot where the PMPG stood. |
| 14:07.05 | BorgDragon | gets up 2 hours later, puts on reflective-mirror armor, then travels back in time and jumps infront of the laser beam before it hits past him |
| 14:07.31 | Helral|Work | burns a hole in the reflective mirror armor because it was low quality work. |
| 14:07.36 | BorgDragon | 's Selfs spot each other then cease to exist |
| 14:07.58 | BorgDragon | You saying I do Low Quality work? |
| 14:08.01 | Helral|Work | explains to BorgDragon that that only happends when they touch eachother. |
| 14:08.18 | Helral|Work | you said you put on the armor, you never said you made it ;p |
| 14:08.26 | BorgDragon | Good point! |
| 14:09.09 | BorgDragon | wants proof, so asks the cat to travel back in time and touch himself |
| 14:09.28 | BorgDragon | grins evilly |
| 14:10.13 | Helral|Work | travels back in time 5 minutes and pushes the 2 BorgDragon's against eachother. |
| 14:10.27 | Helral|Work | meows diabolically |
| 14:12.31 | Helral|Work | tells his other self to go back in time 5 minutes to do what he just did. |
| 14:12.33 | BorgDragon | 's glad that the only thing that touched was the clothes. Then travels back to the future to avoid self destruction at the paws of the diabolical cat |
| 14:12.57 | BorgDragon | ok so... |
| 14:13.12 | BorgDragon | you 2 5 minutes ago vs me 2 5mins ago |
| 14:13.16 | BorgDragon | you vs me now |
| 14:13.18 | BorgDragon | me in the future |
| 14:13.34 | BorgDragon | 's head implodes from the mind numbingness of it all |
| 14:13.37 | Helral|Work | doesn't know that BorgDragon hears 10 cats meowing around him |
| 14:14.01 | Helral|Work | his offspring are stalking BorgDragon in the future. |
| 14:14.05 | BorgDragon | well that's super shitty |
| 14:14.15 | BorgDragon | 1 weapon attachment on the HybridZerg ? |
| 14:14.22 | BorgDragon | should be 4 damnit... one on each arm |
| 14:14.27 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 14:14.31 | BorgDragon | I call shenanigans! |
| 14:14.45 | Helral|Work | they may have 4 arms. but 3 are just for show ;p |
| 14:15.16 | BorgDragon | i know |
| 14:15.19 | BorgDragon | but he attacks with all 4 |
| 14:15.22 | BorgDragon | in the attack animation... |
| 14:15.32 | Helral|Work | no the other 4 just mirror the first one :) |
| 14:15.36 | Helral|Work | the other 3* |
| 14:15.38 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 14:15.47 | BorgDragon | so If I wanted to make all 4 hands glow |
| 14:15.52 | BorgDragon | during a special attack |
| 14:15.52 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 14:15.55 | BorgDragon | using the base animation... |
| 14:15.55 | Helral|Work | no idea |
| 14:16.01 | BorgDragon | that sux |
| 14:16.03 | Helral|Work | it just sounded like fun |
| 14:16.22 | BorgDragon | I'm thinking I would have to have.... |
| 14:16.24 | Helral|Work | has sc2 assisting mode disabled. |
| 14:16.27 | BorgDragon | offsets |
| 14:16.33 | BorgDragon | attachment offsets |
| 14:16.35 | BorgDragon | aaaaaaaaaaah screw that |
| 14:16.36 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 14:16.45 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 14:16.57 | BorgDragon | has Ramble randomly about SC2 mode enabled. |
| 14:17.44 | Helral|Work | throws a marine into BorgDragon's Ramble mode. |
| 14:17.49 | Helral|Work | wonders what happends. |
| 14:18.17 | Helral|Work | ~8ball can BorgDragon's Ramble mode handle a marine? |
| 14:18.17 | purl | Are you smoking crack? |
| 14:18.23 | Helral|Work | ~8ball no |
| 14:18.23 | purl | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 14:18.27 | BorgDragon | 's custom Hybrid devours the Marine... without glowing hands. |
| 14:18.43 | Helral|Work | tosses in a collossus |
| 14:18.45 | BorgDragon | ~8ball can you kick Helral? |
| 14:18.45 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 14:18.52 | BorgDragon | ~kick Helral|Work |
| 14:18.53 | purl | ACTION kicks Helral|Work |
| 14:19.09 | BorgDragon | mwuahahahaha |
| 14:19.09 | Helral|Work | ~8ball did you just fake it? |
| 14:19.09 | purl | Are you smoking crack? |
| 14:19.12 | Helral|Work | ~8ball no |
| 14:19.13 | purl | Yes. |
| 14:19.19 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 14:19.28 | BorgDragon | ~8ball were you just lying ? |
| 14:19.28 | purl | Unsure. |
| 14:19.33 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 14:19.37 | BorgDragon | ~8ball the truth, NOW~ |
| 14:19.37 | purl | Please ask again. |
| 14:19.44 | Helral|Work | ~8ball is BorgDragon smoking crack? |
| 14:19.44 | purl | Are you smoking crack? |
| 14:19.45 | BorgDragon | ~8ball damn you answer me! |
| 14:19.45 | purl | Unsure. |
| 14:19.48 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 14:19.51 | BorgDragon | LOL |
| 14:20.04 | BorgDragon | you ask if I'm smoking crack, then purl asks if you're smoking crack... |
| 14:20.09 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 14:20.09 | BorgDragon | ~8ball are we all smoking crack? |
| 14:20.09 | purl | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 14:20.21 | Helral|Work | lol purl the sarcast :) |
| 14:20.35 | Helral|Work | or purl on crack... |
| 14:21.10 | Helral|Work | ~8ball can you fall off the edge of the world? |
| 14:21.10 | purl | No. |
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| 14:21.17 | Helral|Work | ~8ball can you jump off the edge of the world? |
| 14:21.17 | purl | Absolutely. |
| 14:21.28 | Helral|Work | lol |
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| 14:21.54 | Helral|Work | falls on the edge of the world |
| 14:21.57 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 14:23.12 | Dekar | pushes helral over the edge of the world |
| 14:23.29 | Helral|Work | ~8ball can I be pushed over the edge of the world? |
| 14:23.29 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 14:23.32 | Helral|Work | ow crap |
| 14:23.42 | Helral|Work | meows loudly while being pushed. |
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| 14:24.09 | Helral|Work | is now rolling over the edge of the world. |
| 14:26.27 | Helral|Work | peers over the edge of the world. |
| 14:28.23 | Helral|Work | ~8ball did BorgDragon pass out behind the pc? |
| 14:28.23 | purl | Please ask again. |
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| 14:29.21 | Helral|Work | wonders if Dekar stopped pushing yet. |
| 14:29.33 | BorgDragon | ~8ball is Helral a little needy? |
| 14:29.33 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 14:29.33 | Dekar | didnt. |
| 14:29.39 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 14:29.57 | Helral|Work | is still being pushed over the edge of the world. |
| 14:30.30 | Dekar | keeps pushing until Helral falls into the black nothing past the edge of the world. |
| 14:30.53 | Helral|Work | wonders how pushing me over the edge of the world will ever get me past the edge? |
| 14:32.05 | Helral|Work | ---D-H----- (- = edge of the world, D=Dekar, H=Helral ... I'm being pushed over the edge of the world :P) |
| 14:32.37 | A1win | \o/ now my infestors know how to cast fungal growth when there's at least 10 bio units near them... and then it checks which of those units has the most bio units around it and casts FG on it :3 |
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| 14:32.51 | Helral|Work | pets A1win |
| 14:33.25 | Helral|Work | ~8ball am I bored? |
| 14:33.26 | purl | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 14:33.44 | A1win | now I need to reduce the number of infestors or they'll eat the players alive |
| 14:34.00 | Helral|Work | ahhh fresh players? |
| 14:34.44 | A1win | mmhmm |
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| 14:48.50 | Acemore | if it isn't Demonette |
| 14:48.54 | Acemore | sigh, have to hide again |
| 14:49.02 | Acemore | :( |
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| 14:51.44 | Ashamed | so a lead called me a little bitch, and then told me he said that because he could. ( so i broguth it up with my company ) and i was just told i was 100 percent correct and that if i had done something like this i would of been fired, i was then told that i have good things going on . and if i brought it up higher that i would be risking my job. fucked up shit huh |
| 14:52.21 | Helral|Work | hmmm sounds normal. |
| 14:52.34 | Ashamed | they also told me that i took it too personal lol |
| 14:52.42 | Ashamed | they get to tell me how i feel after being harrassed |
| 14:53.18 | Ashamed | oh and the main lady talked to her manager.. but yet to talk to me |
| 14:53.23 | Ashamed | and she already decided that i was wrong |
| 14:53.29 | Ashamed | and that it was just a "joke" |
| 14:53.47 | Helral|Work | ask for a day off :) |
| 14:53.48 | vhell|wk | .lol are you serious Ashamed |
| 14:53.48 | Ashamed | even though when this happened i told the manager that i was going to take this up the chain of command |
| 14:53.50 | Ashamed | and he didn't |
| 14:53.55 | Ashamed | tell me it was a joke |
| 14:53.57 | Ashamed | yeah i am |
| 14:54.02 | Ashamed | i am about to become a millionare |
| 14:54.05 | vhell|wk | haha |
| 14:54.19 | vhell|wk | you should settle for the 'little bitch' lady's job |
| 14:54.21 | vhell|wk | :) |
| 14:54.25 | Ashamed | i was told i would be :"fired" for taking a harrsment case to my company |
| 14:55.29 | BorgDragon | you tell them that you will "kill" them if they don't do anything |
| 14:55.33 | BorgDragon | then say you were just joking |
| 14:55.38 | Ashamed | i know |
| 14:55.39 | BorgDragon | lol |
| 14:55.41 | vhell|wk | in the US we have whistleblower protection |
| 14:55.45 | Ashamed | i said slap a girls ass actually |
| 14:55.46 | vhell|wk | for stuff like that |
| 14:56.22 | BorgDragon | randomly sabotage shit at work |
| 14:57.17 | Demonette | Mmhhh? whats with me? |
| 14:57.44 | vhell|wk | has anyone had any luck with a diablo style camera? |
| 14:57.59 | vhell|wk | or rather, like dota but a locked camera on the hero |
| 14:58.51 | Demonette | So Acemore is hiding again... mmhhh |
| 14:58.56 | Demonette | and Helral does the worky work |
| 14:59.03 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 15:00.12 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 15:00.30 | Demonette | Poor Helral... and how is it beyond the edge of the world? |
| 15:00.33 | Helral|Work | you want what ashamed said Demonette? |
| 15:00.53 | Demonette | what has ashamed said? |
| 15:01.02 | Ashamed | i am so pissed right now |
| 15:01.04 | Helral|Work | grins evilly |
| 15:01.46 | BorgDragon|Sleep | i'm tired as heel |
| 15:01.47 | BorgDragon|Sleep | hell |
| 15:01.59 | BorgDragon|Sleep | 1 more night of work, then off for 3 |
| 15:02.05 | BorgDragon|Sleep | ciao |
| 15:02.10 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 15:02.29 | Ashamed | the cool thing is i work for a contractor but i am on IBMs radar big time so i have IBM on myside, so if my company does not do anything IBM can make a decsion without them since its their buidling. |
| 15:03.04 | Helral|Work | are you on their radar negativly or positivly? |
| 15:03.16 | Ashamed | positivily |
| 15:03.20 | Ashamed | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.27 | Ashamed | which means i take care of how IBM is ran |
| 15:03.54 | Helral|Work | so if I shine a light on you you catch fire? or what's behind you catches fire? |
| 15:03.56 | Ashamed | the guy that stepped up to me is my companies LEad |
| 15:03.57 | Ashamed | CCI LEAD |
| 15:04.14 | Ashamed | and IBM doesn't take care of him one bit |
| 15:04.41 | Ashamed | i make sure IBM doesn't get audited and shit |
| 15:04.43 | Ashamed | so they like me |
| 15:04.44 | Ashamed | lol |
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| 15:06.06 | Demonette | Mmmhhh |
| 15:06.10 | Demonette | i hate it... |
| 15:06.18 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 15:06.34 | Demonette | how to i get the length of a string usually? |
| 15:06.40 | Demonette | if param1.length? |
| 15:06.43 | Demonette | *signÜ |
| 15:06.55 | Helral|Work | what language? |
| 15:07.13 | Helral|Work | len(string), length(string), string.length, .... |
| 15:07.20 | Demonette | Dunno ^^ |
| 15:08.03 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 15:08.05 | Demonette | {if match(param1.value, match:"Attack")then ... |
| 15:08.09 | Demonette | such a language... |
| 15:08.11 | Demonette | not sure... |
| 15:08.27 | Demonette | i will look if i find out more about it ^^ |
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| 15:11.04 | Demonette | Maybe it isn't an usally language |
| 15:14.26 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 15:14.32 | Demonette | Okay Helral|Work forget about it |
| 15:17.41 | Demonette | Helral? |
| 15:18.56 | Helral|Work | meow |
| 15:23.31 | Demonette | When you got time for a match? |
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| 15:24.59 | Helral|Work | in an hour and half orso. |
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| 15:26.03 | BDmon | ello |
| 15:31.20 | Demonette | Okay see ya then Ral! |
| 15:32.27 | Demonette | Mmmhhh =S the code looks so weird to me... only if else and then's... |
| 15:32.47 | A1win | is there a condition for checking if a structure can be built at a point? |
| 15:33.17 | A1win | or ability cast on a point |
| 15:34.24 | Demonette | there is a condition that checks if you can built there |
| 15:34.38 | Demonette | it has something to do with the footprint as i know |
| 15:35.02 | A1win | I need a trigger condition |
| 15:35.16 | Demonette | a trigger condition *laugh* no idea =P |
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| 15:35.23 | Demonette | Ashmaa |
| 15:36.05 | A1win | yeah good luck making a decent AI without using triggers (or scripts) :P |
| 15:36.15 | A1win | blizzard does most of their stuff with data editor and look how their AI sucks -.- |
| 15:36.43 | Demonette | AI is cool! |
| 15:37.26 | Demonette | =P |
| 15:37.33 | Demonette | and well you can make AI with data |
| 15:37.55 | A1win | mm... very slowly and counter-intuitively :P |
| 15:38.11 | Demonette | It's more about AI for single units |
| 15:38.32 | A1win | mm |
| 15:38.55 | Demonette | and not a controlling AI that leads a whole race to glory =P |
| 15:38.56 | A1win | yeah it's more performance friendly ;p |
| 15:39.21 | Demonette | but you can make some imba rouches or phoenix with data |
| 15:40.06 | Demonette | but triggers seem to be better for the overall eco scouting and similar stuff |
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| 15:41.20 | Demonette | art array oO |
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| 15:44.11 | Demonette | XD |
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| 16:00.24 | Helral|Work | A1win a condition for what? |
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| 16:00.45 | Helral|Work | for building at a location? |
| 16:01.02 | Helral|Work | issue order is valid (issue order being build at that location) |
| 16:02.28 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 16:04.00 | A1win | oh |
| 16:04.45 | A1win | but that's just for event? |
| 16:04.56 | A1win | can't do it without actually issuing the order first? |
| 16:05.42 | Helral|Work | it works before issuing the order. |
| 16:06.02 | A1win | ah |
| 16:06.14 | Helral|Work | think it is "Order is valid for unit" |
| 16:06.17 | A1win | was named "Order Is Valid" :x searched with wrong terms |
| 16:06.44 | Helral|Work | just setup the order you want to give, then check if it is valid. if not retry ;p |
| 16:06.49 | A1win | mm |
| 16:07.15 | A1win | just checking if a queen can place a creep tumor before itself :P |
| 16:08.05 | A1win | ...below even |
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| 16:18.52 | Helral|Work | A1win: normally yes. |
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| 16:21.00 | A1win | I mean I used that condition to check it :P |
| 16:21.06 | A1win | since it could be on a ramp or something |
| 16:21.21 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 16:21.23 | Helral|Work | and? |
| 16:21.57 | A1win | nothing? :S |
| 16:22.05 | Helral|Work | it didn't work or ? ;p |
| 16:22.15 | A1win | should work :P |
| 16:22.19 | A1win | just saying |
| 16:22.21 | Helral|Work | lol |
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| 16:23.21 | Helral|Work | ah well |
| 16:23.25 | Helral|Work | cya later |
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| 16:24.05 | Tordy | How do you allow people to publish locked maps again? |
| 16:24.10 | Tordy | Like people from another region |
| 16:25.00 | Tordy | I cant 100% trust that a dedicated region publisher wouldn't edit stuff on the map. |
| 16:25.17 | Tordy | Want to at least make sure the triggers are locked in some way to deter edit |
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| 16:29.48 | alestane | So, once again jumping in with both feet. I got my ability with the beam to work, even if I'm not sure how, and now I am trying to add a function to the ability such that when it captures the target structure to the caster's side, it changes the structure's unit type. |
| 16:30.10 | alestane | e.g., A protoss captures a barracks and converts it into a gateway. |
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| 16:30.51 | Demonette | mmmhh |
| 16:30.54 | doite | Hi could anyone help me with a skipping intro thing. Everything works fine |
| 16:30.55 | alestane | I've tried doing this by creating three morph abilities, one for each side, and adding them to a basic building, then adding three issue order effects, one for each ability. |
| 16:31.14 | doite | But somehow the camera is paned to the next sequence |
| 16:31.15 | doite | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/14921-skipping-intro-causes-wrong-camera-ingame/ |
| 16:31.41 | alestane | I put the three issue order effects into a switch statement, then put the switch statement into a set statement that fires when the cast is over. |
| 16:31.56 | alestane | The set is triggering, but apparently the switch never even executes. |
| 16:33.07 | alestane | At least according to a trigger I added to send a debug message when an effect is created. |
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| 16:34.24 | Helral | meows |
| 16:35.05 | alestane | gleefully corners Helral and ties him into a bonnet and doll dress. |
| 16:36.05 | doite | No one knows what the fuzz can be about? |
| 16:36.15 | Demonette | Hi Helral |
| 16:36.17 | doite | I hate this camera thing, its really not my area |
| 16:36.27 | alestane | Too much of a noob to help, I'm afraid. |
| 16:37.18 | doite | The "default" camera, the one u se in almost any game. Does that have a action that can be applied? "Pan camera for player one to "default" view over "region.. something" ? |
| 16:38.27 | doite | Or does maybe someone know the exact angle of the default camera ?!==) |
| 16:38.46 | Helral | doite: default camera is a camera object you can apply. |
| 16:39.05 | doite | ok ill try |
| 16:39.08 | doite | Thanks |
| 16:39.09 | doite | sex |
| 16:39.21 | doite | sec... im not paying with sex yet.. maybe if this works though! |
| 16:39.24 | Helral | unwraps himself by cutting the bonnet and doll dress to shreds. |
| 16:39.33 | Helral | meows |
| 16:40.54 | doite | Nope |
| 16:41.02 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:42.21 | doite | Helral |
| 16:42.24 | doite | Could u check http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/14921-skipping-intro-causes-wrong-camera-ingame/ |
| 16:42.29 | doite | What have i done wrong!? |
| 16:42.33 | doite | Can it be.. |
| 16:42.41 | doite | That if i saved camera in a trigger |
| 16:42.52 | doite | Then i say it should stop all instances in that trigger |
| 16:43.03 | doite | Then when it restores it, it doesnt understand somehow? |
| 16:43.22 | doite | Well that should be the case becouse ive tried to put the saved in another |
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| 16:46.05 | doite | GOD DAMN IT! This pisses me off! I have done it right! |
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| 16:51.31 | Helral | omg: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/off-topic/8959-one-word-story/?page=13#p247 |
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| 16:53.19 | Helral | you might want to exclude target btw ;p |
| 16:53.26 | Helral | using the default camera. |
| 16:53.44 | Helral | anyways it does work correctly when playing it till the end? |
| 16:54.15 | Helral | which of the camera settings is off? doite |
| 16:54.36 | Helral | well I'm going to cook myself some dinner. afk a bit. |
| 16:54.42 | doite | Yes it does |
| 16:55.29 | Demonette | Helral? |
| 16:56.39 | Helral | and to the second question, doite? |
| 16:56.42 | Helral | meows |
| 16:56.46 | Demonette | Match |
| 16:56.48 | Demonette | Now! |
| 16:56.53 | doite | But the camera setting is off ... It works like this: Theres a intro sequence explaining what to do and what not to do. After it runs and executes the "end of movie" which basiclly is just a black screen with text: Welcome to doomsday. It also restores all cameras and kills all units used in the movie. In the end of the "end of movie" trigger it fades in->Turns of cinema and .. |
| 16:56.53 | Helral | cooking dinner :S now |
| 16:56.54 | doite | thats is |
| 16:56.55 | doite | it |
| 16:56.59 | Demonette | Puch!!! |
| 16:57.13 | Helral | is it positioned wrong or turned wrong? |
| 16:57.34 | doite | Well the camera is applied to the one sequence AFTER the one you skip |
| 16:57.56 | doite | So i i skip it at sequence 2, it goes to end of movie, then applies sequence 3 caera |
| 16:58.03 | doite | Instead of restoring to default |
| 16:58.09 | doite | Really odd.. |
| 16:58.52 | doite | So both actually |
| 16:59.00 | doite | Positioned wrong and turned wrong |
| 16:59.06 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 16:59.16 | doite | Yea,, Mate go make dinner thasts more important |
| 16:59.19 | doite | i can wait |
| 16:59.27 | Helral | I'd have to check the map to see what goes wrong. |
| 16:59.39 | doite | Ok, u have an email? |
| 17:00.17 | doite | white.stallion@email-me.com? =) |
| 17:01.16 | Demonette | Helral? do you think you are done after i got to the shop bying a toothpaste and a sharpener? |
| 17:05.15 | Helral | Demonette: hope so :) |
| 17:05.29 | Demonette | Okay see ya |
| 17:05.30 | Helral | doite: try the PM's on sc2mapster :) |
| 17:05.42 | Helral | they allow you to attach a file after sending the PM. |
| 17:06.52 | doite | Hmm i dont know why |
| 17:06.55 | doite | But now it works |
| 17:07.13 | doite | I just moved the restore camera later in the end of movie.. |
| 17:07.24 | doite | Seems wierd but.. |
| 17:07.26 | doite | Well yea |
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| 17:07.35 | doite | Thanks so much anyway helral |
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| 17:08.35 | Tordy | [11:23] <Tordy> How do you allow people to publish locked maps again? |
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| 17:11.00 | doite | Another question. When someone wants to skip intro a text comes up saying that player wants to skip the intro |
| 17:11.10 | doite | Is it possible to get that text saying UI - Display (Name of player (Triggering player)) for (All players) to Subtitle area |
| 17:11.24 | doite | But also name of player <- Wants to skip the map |
| 17:11.57 | doite | Not only name of plaer |
| 17:12.00 | doite | player* |
| 17:12.07 | Helral | UI - Display (Combine Text(Name of .... , ConvertStringToText(" wants to skip the intro")) |
| 17:12.38 | Tordy | [11:23] <Tordy> How do you allow people to publish locked maps again? |
| 17:12.40 | vhell|wk | so if you have a multiplayer map with a locked camera on each player, do you have to create references to the player and point the default camera at the 'player' or do you use multiple cameras for multiple players |
| 17:13.02 | Helral | you can set the camera per player. |
| 17:13.10 | Helral | also you can lock it to an unit per player. |
| 17:13.26 | vhell|wk | hmm |
| 17:14.55 | Tordy | Helral are you experienced with trigger optimization |
| 17:15.06 | Tordy | because my init trigger seems to be running too much at once |
| 17:15.28 | Tordy | and supposedly causing people w/ slow computers to freeze far too long so hey get impatient and alt+f4 |
| 17:16.29 | Tordy | Can't figure it out mang |
| 17:16.31 | Tordy | :[ |
| 17:17.21 | Helral | use waits |
| 17:17.37 | Helral | a wait 0.0 is sufficient from time to time. |
| 17:17.46 | Helral | it will look like it's doing something |
| 17:17.51 | Helral | and maybe display a progress timer |
| 17:17.52 | Tordy | what |
| 17:18.06 | Helral | also do stuff right after the map init. |
| 17:18.15 | Helral | like in game time passed 0.0 |
| 17:18.17 | Tordy | how does wait 0.0 do anything |
| 17:18.36 | Helral | it allows the game to update the user interface |
| 17:18.57 | Tordy | you mean the action wait? |
| 17:19.05 | Tordy | just put it in random places in my init trigger? |
| 17:19.07 | Helral | so if you'd display a progress message that counts the player would know it's doing something and not just being stuck. |
| 17:20.38 | Tordy | Helral do you know if too many threads running at once would actually make ti sloer? |
| 17:20.41 | Tordy | slower*? |
| 17:21.10 | Tordy | my init trigger calls many sub init triggers |
| 17:21.29 | Tordy | would making it all process sequentially help? |
| 17:21.36 | doite | Thanks so much, everything works fine! |
| 17:21.41 | doite | Just one last question |
| 17:21.41 | Tordy | np doite |
| 17:21.47 | Tordy | hi doite |
| 17:21.51 | doite | hi tordy |
| 17:22.05 | doite | when you clear messages.. |
| 17:22.12 | doite | Is there any message that does get cleared? |
| 17:22.19 | Tordy | what |
| 17:22.24 | doite | Becouse when a player wants to skip a intro |
| 17:22.50 | doite | They press space, and a message pops up, thx to helral, "player name wants to skip intro" |
| 17:23.03 | doite | But then in the next sequence message gets cleaered |
| 17:23.38 | doite | Movie contains alot of messages, and they get cleaered now and then.. theoreticly if they press skip just 0.5 seconds before next sequence |
| 17:23.45 | doite | the other player wont se that they want to skip |
| 17:24.12 | doite | So is there any sort of text (error text, chat text etc) that doesnt get cleared by action clear text? |
| 17:24.17 | Tordy | Helral calling wait(0.0) forces the interface to update? |
| 17:24.20 | Tordy | im confused |
| 17:24.22 | Tordy | how does that work |
| 17:24.36 | Tordy | why does that work |
| 17:25.38 | Tordy | hi Mephs |
| 17:27.16 | doite | I guess there is no "non clearing" sort of text |
| 17:28.57 | Helral | Tordy: because wait allows other actions to proceed. even wait 0.0 |
| 17:29.03 | Helral | brb |
| 17:29.21 | Tordy | what do you mean it allows other actions to proceed |
| 17:29.34 | Tordy | where do i put wait 0.0 |
| 17:30.01 | Tordy | the directive message area doesn't clear |
| 17:30.11 | Tordy | unless you clear it explicitly |
| 17:31.51 | Helral | Tordy: in my map the terrain generation would take too long, so I added a wait 0.0, and a progress message displaying at how much % it was with generating the terrain. |
| 17:32.28 | Helral | so instead of the game freezing at the start it now displays a counter. |
| 17:32.29 | Tordy | tell me more |
| 17:33.05 | Tordy | so you have wait 0.0 scattered all over your init? |
| 17:33.12 | Tordy | to show progress? |
| 17:33.16 | Helral | in my case I have a loop of let's say 2000 actions. every 40 actions orso I update the progress timer and use a wait. |
| 17:33.49 | Tordy | can you show me that loop |
| 17:33.57 | Tordy | not exactly sure how the wait 0.0 should be used |
| 17:34.00 | Helral | Helrals random dungeon map. |
| 17:34.03 | Helral | it's on the forums |
| 17:34.08 | Tordy | :) |
| 17:34.08 | Helral | on sc2mapster ;p |
| 17:34.44 | Tordy | cant use the editor here :/ |
| 17:35.16 | Demonette | Mmmmhh |
| 17:35.27 | Helral | how is your init structure? |
| 17:35.30 | Helral | hey Demonette |
| 17:35.49 | Helral | is it like init this, init that, init next, etc. |
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| 17:36.07 | Tordy | kinda like that |
| 17:36.11 | Wiz10011 | Hello |
| 17:36.14 | Tordy | hi |
| 17:36.39 | Helral | just put a wait 0.0 between those init calls (if they're run trigger inits) and see if that makes it work better. |
| 17:37.59 | doite | Could anyone from europe be kind enough to be a one time beta tester, doesnt take more then 15 min |
| 17:38.03 | Tordy | why does this work |
| 17:38.07 | Tordy | what exactly does wait 0.0 do |
| 17:38.18 | Tordy | and what do you mean by resume function? |
| 17:38.23 | Tordy | doesn't it already do that? |
| 17:38.33 | Tordy | if it finishes the previous action |
| 17:38.46 | Helral | what do you mean resume function? |
| 17:39.00 | Tordy | im reading this |
| 17:39.00 | Tordy | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/13334-guide-ticks-per-second-waits-timers-real-time-game/ |
| 17:39.13 | Tordy | Now, about the Wait function. Using either Wait(0, c_timeReal) or Wait(0, c_timeGame) has precisely the same effect: the function will resume during the very next tick |
| 17:39.26 | Helral | ah :P |
| 17:39.31 | Tordy | >:) |
| 17:39.40 | Helral | you know what a tick is? |
| 17:39.54 | Tordy | mabe |
| 17:40.06 | Helral | and I don't mean the creature. |
| 17:40.09 | Tordy | im guessing every tick, the engine processes stuff |
| 17:40.37 | Helral | yeah. it's a process cycle. |
| 17:40.58 | Tordy | so let's say on a game of faster |
| 17:41.11 | Tordy | every action processes at least ~0.0223214 seconds? |
| 17:41.16 | doite | helral, i know ive asked u alot, but would it be possible if i asked you to try my map? your from europe i guess |
| 17:41.37 | Helral | game speed won't affect wait(0.0) |
| 17:41.46 | Tordy | let's say my trigger has 3 actions, the min amount of time for it to complete is ~0.0223214 * 3? |
| 17:41.56 | Tordy | and using wait(0.0) will somehow shorten it? |
| 17:42.07 | Helral | logging on atm. |
| 17:42.08 | Tordy | im trying to make sense of this |
| 17:42.22 | doite | Is that a yes helral? |
| 17:42.32 | Helral | yup |
| 17:42.33 | Tordy | \ |
| 17:42.38 | Helral | so |
| 17:42.41 | Tordy | is that a yes to me? ;[ |
| 17:42.50 | Helral | nope |
| 17:42.53 | Tordy | :(( |
| 17:43.05 | Helral | I got no idea what the time would be Tordy |
| 17:43.09 | Tordy | so how does wait(0.0) quicken processing? |
| 17:43.52 | Helral | it prevents the game from saying the processing took to long etc. |
| 17:43.59 | doite | =) |
| 17:44.05 | doite | ive just published |
| 17:44.06 | Helral | also it will make the players be more patient |
| 17:44.11 | Helral | 454 |
| 17:44.19 | doite | Add me, name: axle cod.. ok ill add |
| 17:44.43 | Tordy | so why can;t i just do some display(x %) without the wait? |
| 17:44.59 | doite | omw |
| 17:45.05 | Tordy | like |
| 17:45.06 | Helral | because the game wouldn't have time to update the user interface. |
| 17:45.10 | Helral | since it's running your trigger. |
| 17:45.54 | Tordy | This trigger for example: action() ; display(); action() ; display(); action() ; display(); action() ; display(); action() ; display(); action() ; display(); etc |
| 17:46.13 | Tordy | so this trigger wouldn't actually display? |
| 17:46.19 | Helral | nope |
| 17:46.24 | Tordy | until the very end when all the actions are done? |
| 17:46.31 | Helral | unless you've got it set in the display trigger to wait 0.0 |
| 17:46.51 | Tordy | action() ; wait(0.0); display(); action() ; wait(0.0); display(); action() ; wait(0.0); display(); action() ; wait(0.0); display(); action() ; wait(0.0); display(); action() ; wait(0.0); display(); action() ; wait(0.0); display(); |
| 17:46.56 | Tordy | so you're saying something like that would work? |
| 17:49.07 | Helral | wait after display |
| 17:49.33 | Tordy | oh ok |
| 17:49.40 | Tordy | think i get it now |
| 17:50.18 | Tordy | where'd you learn that wait(0.0) updates the interface? |
| 17:50.36 | Helral | programming class ;p |
| 17:50.46 | Tordy | O_O |
| 17:50.49 | Helral | I'm a programmer for my job. |
| 17:50.54 | Wiz10011 | What's the difference between carry weapons + and equip weapons + under items? |
| 17:50.59 | Tordy | wait this isn't an SC2 only thing? |
| 17:51.13 | doite | Helral! Do u mean that when i choose to skip |
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| 17:51.19 | doite | U went to game view.. |
| 17:51.21 | doite | Ended movie |
| 17:51.26 | doite | But i still were in it? |
| 17:51.42 | Helral | Items that the unit have in it's inventory that don't have the equip flag set are carried. |
| 17:51.51 | Helral | doite: no after the movie I saw your base |
| 17:51.53 | Helral | not mine |
| 17:51.59 | doite | .. lol |
| 17:52.03 | doite | Ok.. |
| 17:52.06 | doite | Ah.. |
| 17:52.08 | doite | Ofc |
| 17:52.14 | doite | Its panned to the corner |
| 17:52.15 | doite | Left |
| 17:52.18 | doite | Of the map |
| 17:52.20 | doite | Ill fix |
| 17:52.27 | doite | As default.. |
| 17:52.47 | Tordy | helral |
| 17:52.49 | Tordy | time to die |
| 17:52.53 | Helral | meows |
| 17:52.53 | Tordy | jk |
| 17:52.55 | Tordy | :) |
| 17:52.56 | Tordy | hi |
| 17:53.08 | Helral | ~8ball do I have 8 lives left? |
| 17:53.08 | purl | Negative. |
| 17:53.13 | Helral | ~8ball do I have 9 lives left? |
| 17:53.13 | purl | Are you smoking crack? |
| 17:53.18 | Helral | ~8ball do I have 7 lives left? |
| 17:53.18 | purl | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 17:53.23 | Helral | ~8ball do I have 6 lives left? |
| 17:53.23 | purl | Are you smoking crack? |
| 17:53.25 | Tordy | purl can i pretend you're Otixa |
| 17:53.31 | Helral | seems I have 7 lives left ;p |
| 17:53.43 | Tordy | Helral can i pretend you're otixa |
| 17:53.46 | Tordy | i miss otixa |
| 17:53.49 | Helral | ~8ball are you related to Otixa? |
| 17:53.49 | purl | Absolutely. |
| 17:53.54 | Tordy | hi otixa |
| 17:53.58 | Helral | lol |
| 17:54.07 | Tordy | he used to be in this irc 24/7 |
| 17:54.09 | Helral | ~otixa |
| 17:54.10 | purl | rumour has it, otixa is better as PS then me |
| 17:54.15 | Tordy | now he hasn't been here in weeks :( |
| 17:54.17 | Helral | hehehe |
| 17:54.27 | Tordy | Helral woudl did you do to him? :[ |
| 17:54.37 | Helral | meows innocently |
| 17:54.39 | Tordy | i just spend $200 on jeans |
| 17:54.49 | Tordy | and im about to buy another pair |
| 17:54.53 | Helral | caughs up a hairball with pieces of Otixa in it. |
| 17:54.54 | Tordy | wise purchase imo |
| 17:54.54 | Tordy | for $200 |
| 17:55.24 | Helral | Demonette you there? |
| 17:55.45 | Helral | or are you swimming about? |
| 17:55.53 | Demonette | Yea... i'm there... but i don't got a sharpener... |
| 17:56.07 | Helral | a pencil sharpener? |
| 17:56.10 | Demonette | yea |
| 17:56.30 | doite | ~8ball was that a great intro sequence for helral or WHAT? |
| 17:56.30 | purl | Yes. |
| 17:56.34 | doite | I KNEW IT! |
| 17:56.43 | Helral | so your drawings will be low quality then due to the fact that the pencil isn't sharp? |
| 17:56.51 | doite | Even so.. |
| 17:57.00 | Helral | ~8ball was Helral impressed? |
| 17:57.00 | purl | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 17:57.07 | doite | =) |
| 17:57.10 | doite | Thanks helral |
| 17:57.30 | doite | Lets se how accurate this little 8ball is |
| 17:57.38 | doite | ~8ball did the skipping the intro trigger work? |
| 17:57.39 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 17:57.42 | Helral | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 17:57.45 | doite | Well you should be |
| 17:58.00 | doite | Well, since it didnt.. i wonder what went wrong.. |
| 17:58.16 | doite | I have a boolean variable.. thats ofc false with 2 arrays.. |
| 17:58.22 | doite | If someone presses space.. |
| 17:58.31 | doite | triggered player set varaiable to true |
| 17:58.32 | Helral | do you reset the values each scene? |
| 17:58.33 | Demonette | Mmmhh... yea the drawings will be low quality -.- |
| 17:58.39 | doite | If : Tru.. |
| 17:58.42 | doite | No |
| 17:58.44 | doite | Do i have to? |
| 17:58.47 | Helral | no |
| 17:58.50 | doite | Ok |
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| 17:59.28 | doite | If true: [1] and true [2] End instances of movie trigger, run trigger end of movie |
| 17:59.39 | doite | Its actually in a sepereate trigger.. |
| 17:59.57 | doite | So it should intefear with the sequences or get reset |
| 18:00.13 | Tordy | Helral this wait(0.0) reminds me of the wait(0.0) action in Starcraft I |
| 18:00.24 | doite | Works when i disable one of the Variable[2]==true and only have [1] |
| 18:00.26 | Tordy | for some reason speeds up preserve action |
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| 18:00.52 | Tordy | im guessing wait(0.0) forces the function to process the very next tick as well? |
| 18:00.54 | Tordy | that explains it |
| 18:01.42 | doite | Hmm.. hmm |
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| 18:02.37 | Corbo | holycrap |
| 18:02.41 | Corbo | haven't been on here in ages |
| 18:02.56 | Demonette | Ral? |
| 18:03.16 | Helral | MEOW |
| 18:03.23 | doite | Ag |
| 18:03.25 | doite | Helral |
| 18:03.25 | Helral | damned caps ;p |
| 18:03.26 | doite | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/14898-correct-for-skipping-intro/ |
| 18:03.38 | doite | Here is out dear skipping intro |
| 18:03.42 | doite | Posted it a time ago |
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| 18:04.31 | doite | And the only difference is that i now have a local variable instead of a global (i never got explained the difference, but i guess a local is when inside a certain trigger and only intefears with that one) |
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| 18:04.56 | Helral | what variable is local? |
| 18:04.58 | Helral | the skip one? |
| 18:05.29 | Helral | Demonette!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:05.36 | Tordy | hi Helral |
| 18:05.47 | doite | yea |
| 18:05.49 | Helral | tackles Tordy |
| 18:05.51 | doite | It should be? |
| 18:05.54 | Helral | no |
| 18:05.57 | doite | Why? |
| 18:06.02 | Helral | the skip one should be global |
| 18:06.10 | Helral | ok it's recreate each time the trigger runs. |
| 18:06.22 | Helral | player 1 pressed space skip[1] = true. |
| 18:06.26 | doite | yea |
| 18:06.35 | Helral | player 2 pressed space, skip is reset, skip[2] = true |
| 18:06.44 | doite | oooh... |
| 18:06.48 | doite | So global is the shit |
| 18:06.56 | doite | And thats why it works when i try alone |
| 18:06.58 | Helral | if it was global it wouldn't get reset. ;p |
| 18:07.08 | doite | Okok.. ill fix |
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| 18:10.30 | doite | Ah nice! |
| 18:10.32 | doite | Thanks helral |
| 18:10.35 | doite | Can we test again? |
| 18:12.15 | nolliepoper | doite lol... |
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| 18:21.45 | doite | Hey nolliepoppis |
| 18:22.13 | doite | I got it all to work now thanks to mr Helral! |
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| 18:25.56 | Dekar | mister helral saved the day! |
| 18:26.09 | Helral | meows |
| 18:26.52 | alestane | Will recap now that doite's issue is under control: I have an ability that takes 6 seconds to cast, has a beam between the caster and the target building, and transfers ownership of that building to the caster's owner. That part all works fine. |
| 18:27.15 | alestane | Now, I'm trying to add a function where it converts the captured building to one appropriate to the race. |
| 18:27.32 | Dekar | with a trigger? |
| 18:27.45 | alestane | With effects. |
| 18:27.54 | Dekar | oh you funny dataeditor people |
| 18:27.56 | Dekar | :) |
| 18:28.11 | nolliepoper | I am trying to finnish a worksheet due tommorow haha. |
| 18:28.16 | alestane | So, I added three morph abilities and added them to a basic building; I added three issue order effects and made a switch between them, and added it to the set that triggers ownership change. |
| 18:28.16 | Helral | combine it with a switch effect and a morph effect. |
| 18:28.38 | alestane | The ownership still changes, but the switch never appears to fire. |
| 18:29.35 | nolliepoper | yesterday I made a trigger to turn status bar on for units but didn't always show their status bar. |
| 18:29.47 | nolliepoper | Right now I can't test anything till I get home but maybe discuss. |
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| 18:29.55 | alestane | The ModifyUnit effect and the Switch effect are in the same set, which is firing. |
| 18:30.18 | alestane | I used a trigger that fires on event creation to verify that, but no trigger can catch the switch effect firing. |
| 18:30.41 | nolliepoper | is it posible to modify a boolean in the data editor that can be checked in a requirment? |
| 18:30.50 | Helral | maybe the switch fires no effect. |
| 18:31.01 | Helral | dunno |
| 18:31.11 | nolliepoper | like set the boolean to false when I start casting the ability then set back to true when I finnish casting the abiltity? |
| 18:31.24 | nolliepoper | that I can access in the requirments. |
| 18:32.48 | nolliepoper | all in the data editor... |
| 18:34.30 | Dekar | what boolean? |
| 18:34.42 | Dekar | oh, just any likea variable? |
| 18:35.30 | Dekar | use a behaviour on a unit? |
| 18:35.32 | nolliepoper | can I create one? |
| 18:35.39 | nolliepoper | not a behavior hopfully. |
| 18:36.09 | nolliepoper | I want to just modify a variable when the abilty starts and ends, then I want to be able to check that variable in the requirments sounds good to you? |
| 18:36.20 | doite | In data editor, how to make a unit VERY big? |
| 18:36.36 | nolliepoper | lol doite |
| 18:36.43 | Wiz10011 | Acter, art - scale |
| 18:36.47 | Helral | doite: actor - scale |
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| 18:36.59 | doite | Thx =) |
| 18:37.03 | nolliepoper | I heard you asking all about that triggers |
| 18:37.23 | nolliepoper | Dekar does that sound like a good idea? |
| 18:37.40 | doite | Well if you do you first map, and u do something new, something you never done before, u can impossibly know |
| 18:38.00 | Dekar | im not very good with the data editor because i think it sucks and i dont map that much anyway D; |
| 18:38.03 | doite | Im a fast learner, when i understand what im doing, but i cant guess |
| 18:38.15 | Dekar | strange smilie |
| 18:38.18 | Dekar | hmm |
| 18:38.41 | Dekar | better ask helral! |
| 18:38.47 | Bounty | I love how Blizzard spams useless news on the Starcraft II site but puts nothing up about custom games at all |
| 18:38.55 | Bounty | Fan Art!? Woot? |
| 18:39.16 | nolliepoper | bro, you dropped the grenade in the wrong camp. |
| 18:39.38 | Bounty | This is the right camp :) |
| 18:40.10 | Helral | meows |
| 18:40.17 | nolliepoper | bounty I saw you quit map making |
| 18:40.23 | Bounty | What could be a more appropriate location to drop that bomb then in a custom game community |
| 18:40.25 | nolliepoper | how long ago was that thread. |
| 18:40.34 | Bounty | a month? 2 weeks? |
| 18:40.38 | Bounty | I quit publishing on bnet yes |
| 18:40.51 | nolliepoper | o rly |
| 18:40.57 | Bounty | ya rly |
| 18:41.10 | Helral | is playing a 1v1 match. |
| 18:41.13 | nolliepoper | I thought you do some croud pleasing stuff |
| 18:41.21 | Bounty | huh? |
| 18:41.29 | Bounty | What do you mean? |
| 18:41.37 | nolliepoper | your current map |
| 18:41.40 | nolliepoper | that you always post the youtubex |
| 18:41.49 | Bounty | Yeah |
| 18:41.55 | Bounty | I'm still making maps |
| 18:42.06 | Bounty | I'm just not releasing it live until the system is fixed |
| 18:42.14 | Bounty | Besides, by the time its done the system should be fixed lol |
| 18:42.18 | nolliepoper | I plan on doing both. |
| 18:42.25 | nolliepoper | release it while it is broken and fixxed. |
| 18:42.31 | nolliepoper | doesn't make a difference. |
| 18:42.42 | Bounty | lol...? |
| 18:42.57 | Wiz10011 | if it does if the broken system means your map wont be played at all? |
| 18:43.00 | nolliepoper | I am saying. |
| 18:43.01 | A1win | now my infestor knows how to use neural parasite and roaches and infestors use burrowed move somewhat smartly o// |
| 18:43.15 | nolliepoper | yes but when it is fixxed and people want to play it then they will. |
| 18:43.32 | nolliepoper | what will the release time change in that matter? |
| 18:43.39 | Bounty | Hype |
| 18:43.52 | nolliepoper | right... |
| 18:43.56 | Bounty | You release something new when the system is changed and you have the hype factor on your side |
| 18:43.59 | Bounty | ok |
| 18:44.01 | Bounty | do what you want lol |
| 18:44.03 | nolliepoper | from who? |
| 18:44.08 | Bounty | forget it |
| 18:44.25 | nolliepoper | the hype will be from your supporters on sc2mapster who prolly won't be the same ones playing. |
| 18:44.56 | Bounty | What do you consider a supporter? |
| 18:44.57 | A1win | and with hype, any disappointments are multiplied :P |
| 18:45.07 | Bounty | exactly A1win |
| 18:45.15 | nolliepoper | 99% of custom game players have the same train of thought. |
| 18:45.19 | Bounty | which is why Win the Crowd will be perfected as much as it can |
| 18:46.14 | Bounty | When im finished with what i have planned now, and the system is still not fixed |
| 18:46.19 | Bounty | Then i'll just add more stuff |
| 18:47.31 | Bounty | Besides |
| 18:47.39 | Bounty | Even if Win the Crowd was the most popular and most played game |
| 18:47.53 | Bounty | It wouldnt top the pop list because it has VERY Anti Popularity List Features :) |
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| 18:49.07 | nolliepoper | I am still sad about powerlevel overwhelming |
| 18:49.25 | nolliepoper | that game only hit the 2nd page but was so much fun if you learned how to play |
| 18:49.58 | nolliepoper | FFA game so fun but sometimes people would ragequit when they died which prolly made them not want to play. |
| 18:50.26 | nolliepoper | Hopefuly if they fixxed the system that game can make a comeback. |
| 18:50.35 | Bounty | I dont see many people rage quitting on wtc |
| 18:50.50 | nolliepoper | wtc? |
| 18:50.52 | Bounty | you cant die and the game doesnt end, you can just keep retrying |
| 18:50.59 | Bounty | win the crowd |
| 18:51.05 | nolliepoper | same with power level overwhelming |
| 18:51.16 | Bounty | yeah but thats pvp |
| 18:51.19 | nolliepoper | it was an intense ffa game. |
| 18:51.20 | Bounty | people will always rage quit in pvp |
| 18:51.45 | Bounty | i had the same problem on all my pvp type maps |
| 18:51.48 | Bounty | you kill someone once |
| 18:51.50 | nolliepoper | pvp is the best. |
| 18:51.51 | Bounty | and they just peace out |
| 18:51.58 | A1win | my map also keeps all players in until they all lose or win at the same time... though it's possible to lose your units so that you need to wait for a while to get new ones, unless others donate resources to you |
| 18:52.17 | Bounty | well A1win |
| 18:52.22 | Bounty | you CANT lose in wtc |
| 18:52.24 | Bounty | i mean u can |
| 18:52.30 | nolliepoper | yeah it will respawn you if you died. |
| 18:52.32 | Bounty | but ull never see a defeat screen |
| 18:52.46 | nolliepoper | but they couldn't handle dieing I guess. |
| 18:52.46 | Bounty | u just get a UI pop up that says Retry? |
| 18:52.49 | nolliepoper | nope |
| 18:52.57 | Bounty | ppl said i should make it start over |
| 18:53.00 | Bounty | but that would kill the game imo |
| 18:53.06 | nolliepoper | you always respawn quicker than dota games. |
| 18:53.08 | Bounty | nobody would ever progress |
| 18:53.34 | Bounty | I'll give someone 200 bucks if they are able to progress through wtc without a single defeat |
| 18:53.35 | nolliepoper | you would have to play it, but it was perfectly balanced. |
| 18:53.42 | A1win | mm, starting over is like game over in old NES games :P |
| 18:53.58 | A1win | which were long |
| 18:54.20 | nolliepoper | a respawn is not a start over. tho. |
| 18:54.28 | A1win | I know ;p |
| 18:54.31 | nolliepoper | you still keep all your levels. |
| 18:54.50 | Bounty | well A1 |
| 18:54.56 | A1win | mmh I actually have that problem in this map, if you lose, you have to start over, and it's a very long map... though it should give you enough entertainment even if you lose |
| 18:55.00 | A1win | "how far can we get this time" etc. |
| 18:55.04 | Bounty | i think wtc will last a few hours lol |
| 18:55.14 | A1win | mmm |
| 18:55.14 | Bounty | its only 9 levels but they are very hard |
| 18:55.29 | nolliepoper | is it a pvm map? |
| 18:55.34 | A1win | this map has five areas, each lasts about 10-25 min depending on how well you do |
| 18:55.35 | Bounty | pvm? |
| 18:55.40 | nolliepoper | player vs monster. |
| 18:55.42 | Dekar | player vs monster D: |
| 18:55.44 | nolliepoper | or monsters. |
| 18:55.50 | Bounty | yeah, you've seen the videos |
| 18:55.54 | A1win | pve is more widely used :P |
| 18:55.59 | nolliepoper | where did u come from Dekar |
| 18:56.12 | Dekar | from helrals corner |
| 18:56.14 | Bounty | i think everyone here has seen atleast one video of the game |
| 18:56.17 | Bounty | pretty obvious is pve :) |
| 18:56.18 | nolliepoper | idk Bounty Id rather play vs people feels better than killing a boss. |
| 18:56.28 | nolliepoper | but then again you already have made pvp maps. |
| 18:56.31 | nolliepoper | so GJ |
| 18:56.34 | Bounty | yeah well u havent fought against these opponents :) |
| 18:56.36 | nolliepoper | never played them. |
| 18:56.38 | Dekar | i would like to earn your 200 bucks, so how can i play the map? :p |
| 18:56.49 | nolliepoper | I believe that map makers should play some games every once in a while too. |
| 18:56.59 | Bounty | i would if there was anything good |
| 18:57.08 | Bounty | i check the list everyday |
| 18:57.08 | nolliepoper | Yeah I'll record myself beating it and get 200? |
| 18:57.15 | Bounty | ok |
| 18:57.23 | Bounty | im tellin ya |
| 18:57.25 | Bounty | it cant be done lol |
| 18:57.30 | nolliepoper | So your judging maps by their cover or name? |
| 18:57.41 | Bounty | it would require 3 people working as a team 100% of the time with no room for error |
| 18:57.49 | Bounty | im judging them by their genre |
| 18:57.53 | Bounty | i dont want to play unit spawns |
| 18:57.58 | Bounty | i dont want to play tower defense |
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| 18:58.06 | Bounty | and i dont want to play dota |
| 18:58.10 | nolliepoper | picky person |
| 18:58.12 | Bounty | or debates >< |
| 18:58.20 | Bounty | im not picky |
| 18:58.23 | Bounty | thats like 3 genres |
| 18:58.32 | Bounty | out of how many that are capable in the editor? |
| 18:58.46 | nolliepoper | see you expect people to play your genre but you never test out the most popular maps. |
| 18:58.47 | Bounty | alot more then that im sure |
| 18:58.59 | Bounty | um ive played them |
| 18:59.04 | Bounty | i dont like those genres |
| 18:59.13 | nolliepoper | then I guess you don't like starcraft. |
| 18:59.28 | Bounty | ??? ur not making any sense |
| 18:59.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:59.52 | alestane | Looksl ike the problem's with my validators. |
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| 19:05.35 | doite | guys.. |
| 19:05.42 | Wiz10011 | Doite.... |
| 19:06.06 | doite | I have a certain doodade building that should die, and when it dies i play a sequence |
| 19:06.18 | doite | But i dont want it do die with the current art |
| 19:06.37 | doite | So i changed it to command center death (lol?) in hope of a explotion.. |
| 19:06.59 | doite | But now it first SHOWS the command center |
| 19:07.04 | doite | THEN it shows the explotion |
| 19:07.16 | doite | Is there any regular other art thats just a explotion? |
| 19:07.19 | doite | :)) |
| 19:07.24 | Wiz10011 | the answer to your question and to life itself, is 14. |
| 19:07.48 | Bounty | thats easy |
| 19:07.49 | doite | allright, fair enough |
| 19:07.53 | Bounty | Terran Explosion |
| 19:07.55 | Bounty | look it up |
| 19:07.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:08.04 | doite | Ill check thx |
| 19:08.12 | Bounty | There are small and large versions |
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| 19:08.17 | Bounty | and for future reference each race has one |
| 19:08.27 | Bounty | Zerg Explosion etc |
| 19:08.45 | doite | Is it under effects or? |
| 19:08.51 | Bounty | yeah |
| 19:08.51 | doite | buildings.. |
| 19:08.54 | doite | Effects |
| 19:08.54 | doite | k |
| 19:08.55 | Bounty | effects |
| 19:09.04 | Bounty | u can find it under models to |
| 19:09.11 | Bounty | if u just want to take that model |
| 19:09.18 | Bounty | and post it to the actors death model |
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| 19:11.40 | doite | TerranLargeBuildinDeath i guess. |
| 19:11.55 | doite | Since i dont find a TerranExplotion, or Explotion |
| 19:12.12 | Bounty | go to models |
| 19:12.17 | Bounty | and type Explosion |
| 19:13.10 | Bounty | see it? |
| 19:13.17 | doite | No |
| 19:13.22 | Bounty | its called TerranSmallTriggeredExplosion |
| 19:13.23 | doite | Becouse their just "assets" |
| 19:13.28 | Bounty | go to models |
| 19:13.34 | doite | But there is no models |
| 19:13.35 | Bounty | and type in explosion |
| 19:13.41 | Bounty | im looking at it right now |
| 19:13.45 | Bounty | under models lol |
| 19:15.55 | *** join/#sc2mapster Slaydon (50cbea51@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.203.234.81) |
| 19:15.56 | Slaydon | :> |
| 19:15.57 | doite | Ok.. Since this seems retarded i dont find it, ill go back a step I go to Data editor, select the .. doodad, Press (under model) on the certain doodad Death. At the right i dubble check model |
| 19:16.03 | doite | And there we are |
| 19:16.15 | Bounty | no |
| 19:16.17 | Bounty | not that |
| 19:16.23 | Wiz10011 | instead of doodad go to models |
| 19:16.26 | Bounty | under data editor |
| 19:16.26 | Slaydon | hai Bounty |
| 19:16.28 | Bounty | go to models |
| 19:16.37 | Bounty | Hai Slay |
| 19:16.44 | Bounty | do |
| 19:16.46 | Bounty | n |
| 19:16.46 | Slaydon | Wat kind of crazy idea do you got now :l |
| 19:16.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:16.57 | Bounty | u didnt see the thread? |
| 19:17.00 | Bounty | for win the crowd? |
| 19:17.11 | Slaydon | I do not have any control over the forums (overview) |
| 19:17.13 | Slaydon | oh |
| 19:17.15 | Slaydon | That one :P |
| 19:17.19 | Slaydon | I did |
| 19:17.34 | Bounty | well its been updated alot |
| 19:17.39 | Bounty | go check it out :) |
| 19:18.24 | Slaydon | :v |
| 19:18.53 | Bounty | just imported the games theme song last night lol |
| 19:19.01 | Slaydon | I am following tha rules like a good boi! |
| 19:19.03 | Bounty | im like 10.1mb |
| 19:19.04 | Bounty | :( |
| 19:19.26 | Slaydon | :o |
| 19:19.27 | doite | Sigh i dont find it, ill just use spidermine explosion or something |
| 19:19.28 | doite | =( |
| 19:19.37 | Bounty | there is no way doite |
| 19:19.43 | Slaydon | Im still out of map ideas |
| 19:19.45 | Bounty | what tab are you under in the data editor |
| 19:19.49 | Bounty | models right? |
| 19:19.53 | doite | Yea |
| 19:19.58 | Slaydon | Ive been modding since beta and still i do not have a map. |
| 19:20.00 | doite | and i wrote: Shackle |
| 19:20.01 | Bounty | and you typed in explosion? |
| 19:20.06 | Bounty | wtf? |
| 19:20.08 | Bounty | shacke? |
| 19:20.10 | Bounty | shackle* |
| 19:20.10 | doite | =) |
| 19:20.11 | doite | Ok |
| 19:20.15 | doite | i write explotion |
| 19:20.15 | Bounty | why did you write shackle? |
| 19:20.16 | Bounty | rofl |
| 19:20.21 | Bounty | not explotion |
| 19:20.22 | Bounty | explosion |
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| 19:20.44 | Slaydon | Bounty, you remember that "Fable much?" question i asked? |
| 19:20.51 | Bounty | yeah |
| 19:20.55 | doite | sure i found it |
| 19:20.55 | Bounty | i dont get it though |
| 19:21.04 | doite | How do i link this to my.. thing |
| 19:21.15 | Slaydon | Bounty, there is an arena there, you gain extra cash for getting attention |
| 19:21.20 | Bounty | copy paste the model to the actor |
| 19:21.28 | Slaydon | Bounty somewhere in the game |
| 19:21.31 | Bounty | oh wow reallY? |
| 19:21.33 | Bounty | fuck |
| 19:21.38 | Bounty | man |
| 19:21.39 | Bounty | thanks |
| 19:21.45 | Bounty | i thought my idea was original |
| 19:21.46 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:22.12 | Slaydon | :V |
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| 19:22.29 | Bounty | regardless |
| 19:22.35 | Bounty | ive never played Fable, because fable sucks |
| 19:22.37 | Slaydon | :::> (Baneling) |
| 19:22.44 | Slaydon | Ive barely played it aswell |
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| 19:22.54 | Bounty | Halo 3 and Fable came with my 360 |
| 19:22.58 | Bounty | and i sold that shit |
| 19:23.02 | Bounty | tried them |
| 19:23.08 | Bounty | meh |
| 19:23.15 | Slaydon | I really need a map idea soon :l |
| 19:23.45 | Bounty | Make an adventure game based in Wonderland |
| 19:23.58 | Bounty | but dark and spacey |
| 19:24.04 | Bounty | WonderCraft |
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| 19:24.18 | Slaydon | huh? |
| 19:24.20 | BDmon | hi |
| 19:24.30 | Bounty | idk |
| 19:24.30 | Bounty | u just said u need a map idea |
| 19:24.34 | Slaydon | Like, some kind of rpg? |
| 19:24.36 | Bounty | i just gave u one |
| 19:24.42 | Bounty | well u could make it an RPG |
| 19:24.43 | Slaydon | well |
| 19:24.48 | Bounty | but i think it would be best as an adventure |
| 19:24.54 | Slaydon | Rpg, im overwith. |
| 19:24.57 | Slaydon | wait |
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| 19:25.02 | Slaydon | That did not come out right. |
| 19:25.05 | Bounty | put all your effort into the atmosphere |
| 19:25.10 | Bounty | and u will have a hit |
| 19:25.20 | BDmon | anyone here has experience with making a model and import in sc2? |
| 19:25.25 | Bounty | i mean |
| 19:25.28 | Slaydon | To be honest i do not know what Wonderland would be. |
| 19:25.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster Leaderboard (5bb45ced@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.92.237) |
| 19:25.30 | Leaderboard | hi hi hi... |
| 19:25.32 | Bounty | have you ever seen some of the plant foliage? |
| 19:25.35 | BDmon | hey Leaderboard |
| 19:25.40 | Bounty | it screams Alice in the Wonderland |
| 19:25.43 | Slaydon | nor how i can base an adventure of it. |
| 19:26.03 | Bounty | How cant you base an Adventure in fucking Wonderland? |
| 19:26.07 | Bounty | its Wonderland |
| 19:26.09 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:26.13 | Slaydon | Hmm.. never save that one :p |
| 19:26.19 | BDmon | lol |
| 19:26.24 | Bounty | im tellin ya man |
| 19:26.28 | Bounty | Take Wonderland |
| 19:26.32 | Bounty | but make it Starcrafty |
| 19:26.58 | Bounty | If u dont make it i will one day |
| 19:27.00 | Bounty | :) |
| 19:27.06 | BDmon | anyone know anyone else that knows abit about models and importing to sc2? |
| 19:27.12 | Slaydon | Hmm.. |
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| 19:27.32 | Slaydon | Adventure, Space version of Wonderland... |
| 19:27.39 | Bounty | Yeah |
| 19:27.48 | Bounty | How does that not scream Win? |
| 19:27.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:27.56 | Dekar | another bug squished! \o/ |
| 19:28.15 | BDmon | checks microphone... AHUM |
| 19:28.57 | Slaydon | I can't imagine what an adventure nor how this spacey wonderland would be. But i guess it would be like Alien plants and trees, and there is a spaceship appearing over the trees and sends out a drop pod. |
| 19:28.59 | Slaydon | As a start. |
| 19:29.16 | BDmon | that doesnt sound like wonderland |
| 19:29.17 | BDmon | u seen it? |
| 19:29.32 | Bounty | Yeah man |
| 19:29.36 | Bounty | Take the Concept of Wonderland |
| 19:29.46 | BDmon | something with a drawer |
| 19:29.46 | Bounty | Look at how it twists our real world |
| 19:29.54 | Bounty | Then you apply that to the Starcraft World |
| 19:29.55 | BDmon | no hold on |
| 19:29.57 | BDmon | a tree |
| 19:30.01 | Bounty | What would Starcraft Wonderland be like? |
| 19:30.04 | Bounty | Ask yourself that |
| 19:30.08 | Bounty | and go from there |
| 19:30.13 | Bounty | Like if Alice was Nova lol |
| 19:30.14 | Slaydon | I never ever said any movies with a wonderland in it. |
| 19:30.19 | BDmon | candy minerals everywhere |
| 19:30.26 | Bounty | how old are you Slaydon |
| 19:30.32 | Slaydon | Im 14 :> |
| 19:30.35 | Bounty | wow |
| 19:30.36 | Bounty | ok |
| 19:30.39 | Bounty | dont even bother |
| 19:30.41 | Bounty | lolol |
| 19:30.45 | doite | AHA! |
| 19:30.47 | doite | I did it |
| 19:30.51 | Slaydon | say wat? |
| 19:30.56 | doite | *Feeling like a champ!* |
| 19:31.13 | Slaydon | Im a kiddo |
| 19:31.17 | Bounty | You've never seen any movie versions of Alice in Wonderland |
| 19:31.20 | doite | ~8ball im i the greatest? |
| 19:31.20 | purl | Absolutely. |
| 19:31.21 | Bounty | so why would you bother? |
| 19:31.21 | BDmon | u didnt see wonderland with johnny dep? |
| 19:31.22 | Dekar | D: |
| 19:31.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:31.25 | doite | Se i am! |
| 19:31.29 | Bounty | no BDmon |
| 19:31.32 | Bounty | Thats a bad example |
| 19:31.33 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:31.36 | BDmon | well |
| 19:31.36 | Slaydon | I already told you, i havent. |
| 19:31.38 | BDmon | its something |
| 19:31.43 | BDmon | dl it :] |
| 19:31.44 | Bounty | yeah but its butchered |
| 19:31.45 | Slaydon | Is it any good :o |
| 19:31.52 | BDmon | well true |
| 19:31.57 | BDmon | the original is nice |
| 19:31.57 | Bounty | ok Slaydon |
| 19:32.04 | Slaydon | :V |
| 19:32.19 | doite | Now i have a last question.. Is there anyway to get a certain ultralisk to do a certain emotion at.. a certain time? |
| 19:32.30 | Bounty | The new Alice in Wonderland movie with Johnny Depp is amazing... if you've never heard of, read or seen anything based on Alice in Wonderland |
| 19:32.47 | Bounty | >< |
| 19:32.48 | Slaydon | Ive seen the trailer on TV and on screens |
| 19:32.50 | Bounty | I think that sums it up |
| 19:33.28 | Slaydon | Well, lets see, there were a cauldron thingy with green of it, alot of clowns and bushes. |
| 19:33.28 | Dekar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1goUMZkbUWg |
| 19:33.30 | Slaydon | :< |
| 19:33.33 | BDmon | doite u got emotions working? |
| 19:33.48 | doite | No im wondering, im at final stage of my map |
| 19:34.01 | Dekar | oh, i think it has no sub |
| 19:34.24 | Slaydon | Dekar, that was just wrong :o |
| 19:34.29 | BDmon | ah cos i want a dancing marine |
| 19:34.32 | doite | And at the end, when defeated .. rather, IF defeated, a sequence is shown when a ultralisk breaks free and i want it, when it has, to do a "Growl" |
| 19:34.33 | BDmon | guess that's not in there |
| 19:34.40 | doite | Like ultralisks do sometime |
| 19:34.55 | Bounty | Well |
| 19:35.00 | Bounty | If you decide to take up the idea Slaydon |
| 19:35.03 | Bounty | Heres your soundtrack |
| 19:35.06 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEiQA4wyhfo&feature=channel |
| 19:35.07 | BDmon | i was wondering that cos i added a cheer animation to the marine but no idea how i can get it to cheer |
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| 19:35.22 | doite | Ah |
| 19:35.25 | Slaydon | Bounty, i have no idea what kind of idea we are talking about, i have no idea :| |
| 19:35.32 | Slaydon | I feel like a total noob |
| 19:35.34 | Bounty | forget it then |
| 19:35.34 | doite | I se, so i guess its over my league this |
| 19:35.40 | Bounty | i guess your to young |
| 19:35.51 | BDmon | well dno how easy it is |
| 19:35.53 | Bounty | even though i thought everyone knew what to imagine when you think of Wonderland lol |
| 19:35.56 | Slaydon | Bounty, why am i too wrong? |
| 19:36.03 | BDmon | really need a more experienced mapper |
| 19:36.05 | Bounty | i said to young |
| 19:36.10 | Xaragoth | YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG! |
| 19:36.13 | Xaragoth | just sayin' |
| 19:36.16 | Slaydon | Bounty, i did, but then you talked bout Alice in Wonderland |
| 19:36.17 | BDmon | lollie |
| 19:36.21 | Slaydon | Xaragoth, oh shush |
| 19:36.27 | Bounty | Slaydon |
| 19:36.32 | Bounty | Thats the entire concept of the map! |
| 19:36.36 | Bounty | If you dont know what Alice in Wonderland is |
| 19:36.40 | Bounty | you cant make it |
| 19:36.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:36.42 | Slaydon | Bounty :v |
| 19:37.00 | Slaydon | Bounty, that does not mean that i am to young to know what alice in wonderland is |
| 19:37.00 | Bounty | forget it man |
| 19:37.04 | Slaydon | :| |
| 19:37.05 | Bounty | ill make it when im done with Win the Crowd |
| 19:37.09 | Bounty | >< |
| 19:37.20 | Bounty | apparently so |
| 19:37.21 | BDmon | whats that, guitar hero? |
| 19:37.28 | Bounty | whats what? |
| 19:37.30 | Xaragoth | AiW has it's own game |
| 19:37.34 | Xaragoth | return to madness or something |
| 19:37.38 | BDmon | win the crowd :P |
| 19:37.49 | Slaydon | Xaragoth :l |
| 19:37.52 | Xaragoth | TPS Arena Combat |
| 19:37.54 | Bounty | yeah but that doesnt mean you cant make a map based on Wonderland |
| 19:38.01 | BDmon | fak me guitar hero on sc2 |
| 19:38.03 | BDmon | :D |
| 19:38.06 | Bounty | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/14570-wip-win-the-crowd/?page=3#p44 |
| 19:38.11 | Xaragoth | oh, did I mention we Ravens skipped out on our SC2 project? UDK is win, just sayin' :p |
| 19:38.28 | Bounty | This is prolly the first map that everyone thats tested it cant even give me feedback bc its pretty damn good as it is so far lol |
| 19:38.32 | Slaydon | Xaragoth, o_o? |
| 19:38.37 | Bounty | BDmon |
| 19:38.39 | Bounty | go to that link |
| 19:38.41 | BDmon | im checking |
| 19:38.43 | Bounty | and watch all teh videoz |
| 19:38.43 | Bounty | :) |
| 19:38.56 | Xaragoth | We gave up on TPS in SC2, we simply moved on to UDK and redo it all over without SC2 story |
| 19:39.02 | Xaragoth | time to make our own little mod-IP |
| 19:39.03 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 19:39.10 | Slaydon | Xaragoth, do you happen to live near Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch? |
| 19:39.21 | BDmon | cool |
| 19:39.24 | Dekar | xara, your project is the duke nukem of indi game development :P |
| 19:39.28 | BDmon | that's alot of data editor work right |
| 19:39.34 | Xaragoth | no dekar, it's not :p |
| 19:39.47 | Xaragoth | we just decided that we can't do what we want and need with sc2 |
| 19:39.51 | Dekar | just the second engine switch yet |
| 19:39.52 | Xaragoth | because of it's limits and problems |
| 19:39.53 | Dekar | xD |
| 19:39.56 | Xaragoth | yeah |
| 19:39.58 | Bounty | What cant you do Xara |
| 19:40.07 | Xaragoth | we should've skipped to UDK to begin with |
| 19:40.14 | BDmon | Bounty how u get the people to cheer? |
| 19:40.16 | Xaragoth | but oh well, at least we got malu and tkc with us |
| 19:40.23 | Slaydon | Xara, do you? |
| 19:40.38 | Bounty | I changed their default stand animations BDmon |
| 19:40.41 | Xaragoth | Bounty: Nearly everything ... Map-Size Limit, Problems with Lag, etc. |
| 19:40.45 | BDmon | ah cool |
| 19:40.55 | BDmon | lets figure that out |
| 19:40.56 | Xaragoth | Slaydon: No, but I would drop a Nuke there, just to see what the News Guys do |
| 19:40.58 | Bounty | Yeah but Blizzard is going to fix the lag |
| 19:41.04 | Xaragoth | doesn't matter |
| 19:41.08 | Bounty | Wouldnt you rather develope for the future? |
| 19:41.11 | Xaragoth | will still not be up to our quality standard |
| 19:41.17 | Slaydon | Aww |
| 19:41.28 | Bounty | Think of it like this |
| 19:41.37 | Bounty | You stick with your original design |
| 19:41.39 | Xaragoth | and since it's singleplayer, we don't have that problem to begin with Bounty |
| 19:41.42 | Bounty | dont release it until they fix it |
| 19:41.51 | Bounty | then you have gold on your hands |
| 19:41.52 | Dekar | so, you will release your code? |
| 19:41.56 | Bounty | DAY ONE of the fix |
| 19:41.58 | Bounty | u have gold |
| 19:42.00 | Xaragoth | That's up for Tomura to decide |
| 19:42.15 | Xaragoth | Probably will just store it on the shelf |
| 19:42.23 | Xaragoth | for malu, when he wants to improve his stuff |
| 19:42.29 | Bounty | oh Xara |
| 19:42.31 | Bounty | i got something to show u |
| 19:42.32 | Slaydon | Hmm, may i ask what we are talking bout'? |
| 19:42.37 | Bounty | i think i might finally win you over on something |
| 19:42.39 | Bounty | :) |
| 19:42.41 | Xaragoth | You may not. |
| 19:42.45 | Slaydon | Third Person Shooters? |
| 19:42.48 | Xaragoth | Yes |
| 19:42.53 | BDmon | Bounty: i only need the actor then right? if i duplicate a unit |
| 19:42.53 | Slaydon | That Vector one? |
| 19:43.00 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjeUfrohdKk |
| 19:43.01 | Xaragoth | Bounty: That is near to impossible. |
| 19:43.04 | Xaragoth | No, not Vector |
| 19:43.25 | Bounty | Not sure BDmon im still waking up |
| 19:43.25 | Xaragoth | That is on ice in favor of TSOF or rather on the shelf for the new UDK project now |
| 19:43.29 | BDmon | cool |
| 19:43.44 | Bounty | Xara, watch that video |
| 19:43.57 | Bounty | It will do the impossible |
| 19:44.23 | Slaydon | Bounty, its funny because his name is almost lucifer which means the devil. |
| 19:44.24 | Bounty | all shot on battlenet |
| 19:44.42 | Bounty | lol yeah |
| 19:45.14 | Xaragoth | oh look, it's WoW models - again |
| 19:45.19 | Xaragoth | and Deathchin. |
| 19:45.26 | Slaydon | Wow models is way to overrated. |
| 19:45.28 | Xaragoth | or Chinderella, how I like to call him |
| 19:45.34 | Slaydon | :| |
| 19:45.37 | Bounty | Dont be an idiot Xara |
| 19:45.38 | Bounty | Admit it |
| 19:45.40 | Bounty | You liked it |
| 19:45.54 | Bounty | you only point out something like its a wow model because thats all u can do |
| 19:45.54 | Slaydon | :_: |
| 19:45.56 | Bounty | :) |
| 19:45.59 | doite | The map is now IMBA! |
| 19:46.07 | Xaragoth | No, because WoW Models in SC2 make your map a fail to me, sorry :p |
| 19:46.15 | doite | If that word is used anymore.. |
| 19:46.20 | Xaragoth | If you had Triceron do you some cool stuff, oh well, that's different |
| 19:46.22 | Slaydon | They just dont fit in the sc2 enviroment. |
| 19:46.24 | BDmon | bounty the boss entry? make the camera shake small first and bigger the closer u get |
| 19:46.30 | Xaragoth | and it doesn't fix all the problems with the Gameplay yet ^^ |
| 19:46.32 | Bounty | Why do they make you fail? |
| 19:46.52 | Xaragoth | Because they look totally off inside the sc2 engine |
| 19:46.57 | Slaydon | Bounty, they dont fit in the sc2 enviroment. |
| 19:47.22 | Xaragoth | it's similar to other things |
| 19:47.23 | Bounty | its not like i have marines running around |
| 19:47.26 | Xaragoth | for example otixa's models |
| 19:47.34 | Xaragoth | they don't fit sc2 at all |
| 19:47.39 | Xaragoth | if you don't use it for cinematic stuff, that is |
| 19:47.51 | Xaragoth | Triceron is the only one inside the mapster folks right now that has it down |
| 19:48.06 | Xaragoth | and I still suspect him to be a Blizz Employee send to spy on us ~~ |
| 19:48.29 | Bounty | Ok but how doesnt that model fit in that video |
| 19:48.43 | Xaragoth | *sigh* |
| 19:48.49 | Bounty | no sigh |
| 19:48.50 | Bounty | explain lol |
| 19:48.50 | Xaragoth | WoW Artstyle != SC2 Artsytle |
| 19:48.52 | Xaragoth | *style |
| 19:48.54 | Bounty | I dont see marines running around? |
| 19:48.57 | Slaydon | He just levitates up from the ground. |
| 19:49.08 | Xaragoth | There is a significant difference between Artstyles |
| 19:49.19 | Xaragoth | It's like trying to stuff L4D Zombies into Crysis |
| 19:49.40 | Xaragoth | Not that anyone besides me would really bother with it though |
| 19:49.56 | Bounty | Ok but just because of that you disregard everything that follows? |
| 19:50.12 | Xaragoth | the mass of sheeps that is the sc2 community will still play it |
| 19:50.18 | Xaragoth | for some time, until they play nexus again |
| 19:50.22 | Slaydon | Bounty, compare the wall, the texture on the ground, and the wow model. |
| 19:50.32 | Xaragoth | We had those issues before |
| 19:50.35 | Xaragoth | Some were BlizzCon entrys |
| 19:50.35 | Bounty | the entrance area isnt done yet |
| 19:50.40 | Xaragoth | that DID NOT WIN because of that |
| 19:51.07 | Xaragoth | It's like using the SM models in the Terrain Editor |
| 19:51.12 | Xaragoth | it always looks weird |
| 19:51.13 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 19:51.19 | Xaragoth | also |
| 19:51.24 | Bounty | Ok my question is |
| 19:51.24 | Xaragoth | no matter how shiny your cinematic is |
| 19:51.29 | Xaragoth | gameplay is the important thingy |
| 19:51.40 | Bounty | u saw the gameplay videos right? |
| 19:52.02 | Xaragoth | yes, and they still don't convince me one bit |
| 19:52.07 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:52.12 | Bounty | well you're the only one i guess |
| 19:52.16 | Xaragoth | yes |
| 19:52.32 | Xaragoth | I have the tendendy to stomp stuff that is not up to standard or can at least reach a higher level of quality |
| 19:52.41 | Xaragoth | *can't |
| 19:52.47 | Bounty | ok well you pointed out something on the entrance video, now what about the gameplay leads you away |
| 19:53.13 | Xaragoth | besides the fact that it doesn't work smooth enough in sc2? |
| 19:53.31 | Bounty | wasd lag? you cant use that against me |
| 19:53.48 | Bounty | and its not even that bad with 3 players |
| 19:53.50 | Bounty | it works fine |
| 19:54.02 | Xaragoth | I can use that against EVERYONE, mind you |
| 19:54.12 | Xaragoth | As long as Blizz does not fix it, it's valid. |
| 19:54.13 | Bounty | How the hell can you watch a video and see lag? |
| 19:54.15 | Bounty | You feel lag |
| 19:54.38 | Bounty | Nothing in any of the videos "shows" lag lol |
| 19:55.01 | Slaydon | He got a laggy interweb |
| 19:55.04 | Slaydon | when watching youtube |
| 19:55.15 | Bounty | no no i mean input delay |
| 19:55.26 | Slaydon | :F |
| 19:55.29 | Bounty | Its not possible to visualy "see" input delay |
| 19:55.33 | Bounty | Its something you feel when playing |
| 19:55.37 | Bounty | So you cant use that against me |
| 19:55.39 | Bounty | Having never played it |
| 19:55.49 | Bounty | >< |
| 19:55.56 | Slaydon | Unless he someway hacked you |
| 19:56.00 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:56.02 | Slaydon | and took the map |
| 19:56.21 | Slaydon | Thats more like Xara to me :D |
| 19:56.31 | Xaragoth | And ripped it apart in a single, angry rant |
| 19:56.32 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 19:56.45 | Slaydon | yerr |
| 19:56.47 | Bounty | Cmon man dont ditch me now Xara |
| 19:56.50 | Bounty | Answer teh question :) |
| 19:57.03 | Xaragoth | I simply look at it, and see no smooth movement. |
| 19:57.08 | Xaragoth | And smooth doesn't mean lag-free |
| 19:57.18 | Slaydon | Bounty, Ancient chinese lag spotting training. |
| 19:57.21 | Slaydon | in other words. |
| 19:57.22 | Xaragoth | though it'll still lag, because most of the lower end of the food-chain pcs tend to die on this kind of stuff anyways |
| 19:57.55 | Xaragoth | not that it concerns me a lot, because people tend to play those type of maps about 5 times before they feel they get old |
| 19:57.58 | Xaragoth | it's like a Call Of Duty |
| 19:58.02 | Xaragoth | play it once: awesome |
| 19:58.05 | Xaragoth | play it twice: good |
| 19:58.10 | Xaragoth | play it trice: oh god, not again |
| 19:58.23 | Bounty | Hence adding replayability features |
| 19:58.30 | Bounty | Customization, Difficulties and Scores |
| 19:58.51 | Slaydon | Xara, thats the meaning of minigames. |
| 19:59.13 | Slaydon | you arent meant to play them over and over again. |
| 19:59.14 | Xaragoth | It's not the frigging iPhone Slaydon :p |
| 19:59.24 | Bounty | I wouldnt call this a mini game |
| 19:59.25 | Slaydon | Xara, its still a minigame. |
| 19:59.31 | Bounty | as it will most likely take hours to complete |
| 19:59.35 | Xaragoth | and I can play sotis over and over again, it still has more |
| 19:59.35 | Bounty | Just because of its difficulty |
| 19:59.36 | Slaydon | :o |
| 19:59.53 | Xaragoth | which will lead you to a swift and terrible downfall on popularity and most players |
| 19:59.54 | Bounty | ok well im watching the main gameplay vid |
| 19:59.58 | Bounty | and im seriously looking |
| 19:59.59 | Xaragoth | average time spend playing: 2 hours |
| 20:00.05 | Bounty | for what you call not smooth movement |
| 20:00.11 | Bounty | and |
| 20:00.12 | Bounty | Xara |
| 20:00.20 | Bounty | im not releasing this until pop list is fixed |
| 20:00.25 | Xaragoth | which is like ... |
| 20:00.26 | Xaragoth | uhm ... |
| 20:00.27 | Xaragoth | never. |
| 20:00.37 | Bounty | Unlike some people i am not going to ruin my map to favor the popularity |
| 20:00.44 | Xaragoth | Oh well |
| 20:00.46 | Bounty | You can restart lost encounters by pressing the restart button |
| 20:00.50 | Xaragoth | I wouldn't call Catalyst ruined |
| 20:00.50 | Bounty | and continue on |
| 20:01.21 | Xaragoth | sotis simply lives off it's "omg i'm calling me a dota"-stuff |
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| 20:01.32 | Xaragoth | and nexus wars gets paid pop-boosts |
| 20:02.02 | Bounty | Well this map isnt even for those people anyways |
| 20:02.12 | Slaydon | Xara, are you serious? creators of nexus wars gets cash? |
| 20:02.15 | Bounty | Its for people who want to try to accomplish something :) |
| 20:02.24 | Xaragoth | no, some idiots get cash to boost him |
| 20:02.28 | Bounty | Kinda like Demons Souls |
| 20:02.34 | Xaragoth | Bounty: which makes the map of 0 interest for me on sc2 |
| 20:02.40 | Slaydon | o_o |
| 20:02.43 | Xaragoth | or rather, at all |
| 20:02.46 | Slaydon | thats totally fail. |
| 20:02.47 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:02.48 | Xaragoth | but that's probably my background |
| 20:02.55 | Xaragoth | if I don't sell my stuff a lot |
| 20:02.56 | Bounty | Ok so |
| 20:02.57 | Xaragoth | I loose my job |
| 20:02.58 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 20:02.59 | Bounty | Basically your saying |
| 20:03.02 | Bounty | Because its hard |
| 20:03.07 | Bounty | Its of 0 interest to u |
| 20:03.14 | Xaragoth | No, I like hard |
| 20:03.23 | Xaragoth | That's no the problem |
| 20:03.43 | Xaragoth | but gimping yourself for not trying to offer it to a broad fanbase, is what looses my interest in that project instantly |
| 20:03.50 | Bounty | but thats what i just said... lol and you responded "Well thats why its of 0 interest to me" |
| 20:03.54 | Xaragoth | besides, if I wanna kill giant shitheads, I can either play WoW or God Of War :d |
| 20:04.07 | Bounty | wow |
| 20:04.08 | Slaydon | :< |
| 20:04.08 | Bounty | REALLY? |
| 20:04.10 | Bounty | that arguement? |
| 20:04.12 | Xaragoth | or Shadow Of The Colossus |
| 20:04.15 | Bounty | ok let me pwn that arguement real fast |
| 20:04.16 | vhell|wk | lol |
| 20:04.18 | Xaragoth | That had giant bosses. |
| 20:04.21 | Bounty | wait wait |
| 20:04.25 | vhell|wk | look if your map isn't rts I'm not playing it Bounty |
| 20:04.25 | Bounty | let me own that arguement |
| 20:04.27 | vhell|wk | ;) |
| 20:04.31 | Bounty | So |
| 20:04.32 | Slaydon | I be trollin' |
| 20:04.34 | Bounty | If i want to play Dota |
| 20:04.40 | Bounty | ill go play League of Legends |
| 20:04.44 | Bounty | what about tower defense? |
| 20:04.57 | Bounty | Plants VS zombies or one of the hundreds of other fully developed TD's |
| 20:04.57 | Slaydon | I did it rong' :( |
| 20:05.00 | Bounty | why would i play those? |
| 20:05.09 | Bounty | ir any other map on SC2 |
| 20:05.17 | Xaragoth | I ask myself that every day for TDs |
| 20:05.19 | Bounty | Would coule be replaced a game that already is on the shelves |
| 20:05.23 | Slaydon | Im off for today :| |
| 20:05.27 | Bounty | Xara |
| 20:05.29 | Slaydon | Bye :D |
| 20:05.32 | Bounty | Even whatever map your developing |
| 20:05.37 | Bounty | Could be replaced with a game on the shelves |
| 20:05.38 | Slaydon | anyone? |
| 20:05.43 | Bounty | So, dont use that arguement lol |
| 20:05.47 | Xaragoth | Indeed |
| 20:05.50 | Bounty | "Oh if i want to do this ill go play that" |
| 20:05.56 | Bounty | Its the stupidest arguement ever |
| 20:05.56 | Xaragoth | Which is why I don't play a lot of SC2 anymore |
| 20:06.01 | Slaydon | Good bye everyone from Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch |
| 20:06.06 | Xaragoth | Because I can get better stuff for free or money |
| 20:06.21 | Bounty | Wait |
| 20:06.24 | Xaragoth | Fact is: SC2 does not live up to what was expected |
| 20:06.28 | Bounty | Thats supposed to be the reason TO PLAY sc2 |
| 20:06.32 | Slaydon | someone is going to say bye to me or? |
| 20:06.35 | Bounty | is because of free content lol |
| 20:06.37 | Bounty | by fag |
| 20:06.39 | Bounty | bye* |
| 20:06.41 | Bounty | <3 |
| 20:06.43 | Bounty | =P |
| 20:06.44 | Slaydon | THANK YOU |
| 20:06.48 | Bounty | I LOVE YOU |
| 20:06.51 | Xaragoth | SC2 is NOT free content. |
| 20:06.53 | Xaragoth | You paid for it :p |
| 20:07.01 | Bounty | No ur not understanding |
| 20:07.02 | Bounty | 60 bucks |
| 20:07.05 | Bounty | right? |
| 20:07.07 | Xaragoth | You just get a lot of shitty free stuff from the community. |
| 20:07.15 | Bounty | Should give you access to unlimited genres and content |
| 20:07.21 | Bounty | So if you already spend the 60 bucks |
| 20:07.28 | Bounty | and go buy Plants VS zombies to play a TD |
| 20:07.30 | Xaragoth | Rapidshare does too, just sayin' |
| 20:07.33 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 20:07.38 | Bounty | u were better off playing SC2 TD |
| 20:07.43 | Bounty | financialy |
| 20:07.47 | Bounty | of course >< |
| 20:07.50 | Xaragoth | The problem is that you try to argument "Because SC2 gives free, it's better." |
| 20:07.52 | Xaragoth | which it does not. |
| 20:08.00 | Bounty | i never said that |
| 20:08.01 | Xaragoth | Because it'd have to be on the same quality. |
| 20:08.05 | Bounty | i just said its better financialy |
| 20:08.08 | Bounty | you cant argue its not lol |
| 20:08.20 | Xaragoth | I can argue that I got money enough to buy 5 games a month |
| 20:08.22 | Bounty | not quality wise no |
| 20:08.33 | Bounty | how could it be better quality wise? |
| 20:08.46 | Xaragoth | Oh, it can. |
| 20:09.01 | Xaragoth | LoL & HoN suck compared to other AoS |
| 20:09.14 | Bounty | Then why do shit loads of ppl play them |
| 20:09.17 | Xaragoth | Which comes mostly from the fact that they took DotA as their imspiration. |
| 20:09.30 | Xaragoth | shit loads of people play MW2, even though there are hackers. |
| 20:09.43 | Bounty | Yeah but for this type of arguement |
| 20:09.45 | Xaragoth | People buy the 7th Call Of Duty. |
| 20:09.50 | Bounty | You cant argue based on things you like |
| 20:09.55 | Xaragoth | It's because there is a fucking market for everything. |
| 20:09.56 | Bounty | You have to see it from an overall perspective |
| 20:10.05 | Xaragoth | You could sell shit with Gold on top and someone, somewhere would buy it. |
| 20:10.15 | Bounty | Well no shit |
| 20:10.17 | Bounty | Its gold |
| 20:10.19 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:10.42 | Xaragoth | A lot of people I know quit on SC2, because it did not deliver as expected. |
| 20:10.47 | Xaragoth | D3 will be no different. |
| 20:10.57 | Xaragoth | Still, people will buy it and Blizz will make a ton of money. |
| 20:10.57 | Bounty | I wouldnt know about SC2 as a game |
| 20:11.00 | Xaragoth | That's human nature. |
| 20:11.05 | Bounty | But i know on the custom map side its not delivering |
| 20:11.19 | Xaragoth | The campaign didn't deliver either. |
| 20:11.25 | Xaragoth | At least not until Char |
| 20:11.28 | Bounty | Like i said, i wouldnt know |
| 20:11.36 | Bounty | Didnt play much of the real game |
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| 20:11.55 | Dekar | are the livestream shows dead now? |
| 20:12.00 | Bounty | Think so |
| 20:12.05 | Bounty | sucks :( |
| 20:12.13 | Bounty | I enjoyed watching them while mapping |
| 20:12.46 | Xaragoth | Kinda |
| 20:12.50 | Xaragoth | I lost sight of Otixa |
| 20:12.57 | Xaragoth | and the motivation to do anything with sc2, sadly |
| 20:13.03 | Xaragoth | I didn't log in for quite some time |
| 20:13.21 | Xaragoth | I only tried if I could cause an error if I used the IgnoreMore addon for WoW and put a shitton of people on ignore and logged into SC2 |
| 20:13.27 | CGamer | Anyone got an idea why I cannot add an item to the inventory of my command center? |
| 20:13.27 | Xaragoth | because WoW and SC2 share the same ignore-list *lol* |
| 20:14.14 | Bounty | SC2 is failing due to the lack of creative and uniqe maps available on battlenet in combination with Blizzards failure to fix the popularity system |
| 20:14.26 | Bounty | and its such a simple fix lol |
| 20:14.33 | Xaragoth | Oh well |
| 20:14.39 | Bounty | Like do they even realize? |
| 20:14.41 | Xaragoth | There is also the fact that you have seen it all before |
| 20:14.45 | Bounty | Why the popularity system fails? |
| 20:14.46 | Xaragoth | No, they don't |
| 20:14.50 | Xaragoth | We saw that on BlizzCon |
| 20:14.58 | Bounty | Its because its not a self efficient system |
| 20:15.05 | Bounty | you need the original system |
| 20:15.07 | Bounty | + popularity |
| 20:15.10 | Bounty | for it to fuction right |
| 20:15.13 | Bounty | and fairly |
| 20:16.02 | Bounty | Now they add filters |
| 20:16.19 | Bounty | I think they should ban any map that posts as a TD or Tug even if its not |
| 20:16.21 | Xaragoth | for two map-types that aren't even really popular *lol* |
| 20:16.29 | Bounty | example... Debates |
| 20:16.38 | Bounty | ban it |
| 20:16.39 | Bounty | >< |
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| 20:17.09 | LordAbyss | www.curse.com dieded |
| 20:17.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:17.48 | Bounty | i guess im not mapping today |
| 20:17.54 | Bounty | this conversation has killed my motivation |
| 20:18.18 | LordAbyss | i am feeling good today, i crushed someone on the forums |
| 20:18.21 | LordAbyss | utterly dominated |
| 20:18.43 | Xaragoth | we can't do that |
| 20:18.46 | Xaragoth | no banhammer for mods |
| 20:18.53 | Bounty | no i mean |
| 20:18.57 | Bounty | Blizzard should do that |
| 20:18.59 | LordAbyss | i used my intellect |
| 20:19.04 | Bounty | look at each map that uses that filter |
| 20:19.04 | Xaragoth | you can only whisper dark thoughts to vjeux |
| 20:19.04 | LordAbyss | to destroy him |
| 20:19.09 | Bounty | and make sure its actually that map type |
| 20:19.11 | Xaragoth | that's boring |
| 20:19.13 | Xaragoth | and a waste of time |
| 20:19.19 | Bounty | not imo |
| 20:19.23 | Bounty | people that do that |
| 20:19.25 | Bounty | need to gtfo |
| 20:19.27 | Bounty | imo |
| 20:19.36 | Bounty | That is pathetic on so many levels |
| 20:19.40 | Xaragoth | I talked to Abyss :p |
| 20:19.53 | BDmon | bounty did u have coffee yet? |
| 20:19.59 | Bounty | Had an energy shot yeah |
| 20:20.01 | Bounty | and still |
| 20:20.06 | Bounty | no motivation to map today |
| 20:20.18 | BDmon | :/ |
| 20:20.22 | Bounty | Ignorance is Bliss, when you talk about how SC2 actually is |
| 20:20.26 | Bounty | it kills it |
| 20:20.28 | BDmon | just wondering what to change for the dance animation :] |
| 20:20.28 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:20.44 | Bounty | what do you mean |
| 20:20.48 | BDmon | i see events at the model |
| 20:20.59 | BDmon | stand, victory etc but changing that dont work |
| 20:21.03 | Bounty | you want their stand animation to be dance? |
| 20:21.04 | BDmon | wanna make marines dance :] |
| 20:21.06 | BDmon | ye |
| 20:21.10 | Bounty | go to the one that only has |
| 20:21.13 | Bounty | Stand and Walk |
| 20:21.27 | BDmon | as an option? |
| 20:21.30 | Bounty | and just change the Stand Animation to Dance |
| 20:21.37 | Bounty | its under its actor |
| 20:21.40 | BDmon | ah k |
| 20:21.46 | Bounty | look for the part that says StandWalk |
| 20:21.54 | Bounty | when u open it it should only have 2 things |
| 20:21.56 | Bounty | Stand and Walk |
| 20:22.00 | Bounty | and then the animation that it plays |
| 20:22.07 | Bounty | so just change Stands animation to dance |
| 20:22.52 | BDmon | ok searching for stand and walk lol |
| 20:23.26 | BDmon | ah ye got it |
| 20:23.31 | Bounty | :) |
| 20:23.57 | BDmon | rofl ty! :O |
| 20:23.58 | BDmon | :P |
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| 20:24.45 | LordAbyss | i pushed the power button on my laptop |
| 20:24.48 | LordAbyss | >.> |
| 20:26.10 | BDmon | hehe |
| 20:26.35 | BDmon | for some reason this keyboard has a power button underneath the delete btn, luckily it doesnt work |
| 20:26.40 | BDmon | that'd be annoying |
| 20:26.56 | LordAbyss | wtf? |
| 20:26.59 | LordAbyss | lol |
| 20:27.06 | BDmon | exactly |
| 20:30.55 | BDmon | bounty u know how to keep them continously dancing? |
| 20:31.15 | Bounty | if its their stand animation they should always dance |
| 20:31.18 | Bounty | as long as they are not moving |
| 20:31.27 | BDmon | well they do it every now and then |
| 20:31.55 | BDmon | looks like its when they're getting bored or something |
| 20:34.52 | BDmon | its when they stop moving and every now and then, weird |
| 20:37.11 | Xaragoth | btw |
| 20:37.25 | Xaragoth | just so you have something to do, while I'm gone to slay people |
| 20:37.26 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCT8TgqrcM0 |
| 20:37.30 | Xaragoth | CryEngine 3 Project |
| 20:37.38 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI9REB1JeRg |
| 20:37.41 | Xaragoth | the shit I was stuck with |
| 20:37.41 | Xaragoth | :d |
| 20:37.49 | Xaragoth | though in the end, it was kinda decent |
| 20:37.58 | Xaragoth | for the fact that we wasted 5 of the 6 months |
| 20:41.21 | BDmon | looks fun to make |
| 20:42.09 | Xaragoth | it was pain, sweat and tears for a fucking month |
| 20:42.13 | Xaragoth | but in the end, full score |
| 20:43.16 | BDmon | nice |
| 20:43.31 | Xaragoth | I still don't like it, it could've been so much more, if we had a year |
| 20:43.47 | Xaragoth | we had to do some 2d flash shit before, only the other 6 month project was free to pick |
| 20:43.57 | BDmon | true looks like a beta, u need to develop it further :] |
| 20:44.02 | Xaragoth | We won't |
| 20:44.11 | BDmon | ah |
| 20:44.15 | Xaragoth | We all are very happy to put it into our portfolio and do good stuff :p |
| 20:44.25 | BDmon | hehe |
| 20:44.34 | Xaragoth | Reminds me |
| 20:44.35 | BDmon | damned marines keep dancing! |
| 20:44.39 | Xaragoth | starts to dig through his desk. |
| 20:44.39 | BDmon | :| |
| 20:44.47 | Xaragoth | Where are the fucking papers |
| 20:44.51 | Xaragoth | I gotta start that castle |
| 20:44.56 | BDmon | :] |
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| 20:45.02 | Xaragoth | evening rev |
| 20:45.08 | DarkRevenant | evening wat |
| 20:45.09 | BDmon | sup DarkRevenant |
| 20:45.12 | DarkRevenant | it's noon |
| 20:45.15 | DarkRevenant | 12:45 PM |
| 20:45.21 | DarkRevenant | where I live |
| 20:45.25 | BDmon | 21:45 |
| 20:45.55 | DarkRevenant | can't call it afternoon until 1400 or 1500 |
| 20:46.04 | DarkRevenant | evening isn't until 1800 or 1900 |
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| 20:46.14 | BDmon | well good day then |
| 20:46.14 | alestane | ~ugt |
| 20:46.15 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 20:46.18 | DarkRevenant | and i'm at 1245 |
| 20:46.34 | DarkRevenant | wrong on both accounts |
| 20:46.37 | DarkRevenant | then |
| 20:46.41 | BDmon | heheh |
| 20:46.46 | DarkRevenant | it's supposed to be good morning |
| 20:46.55 | BDmon | morning |
| 20:46.56 | DarkRevenant | not good afternoon, good day, or good evening |
| 20:46.58 | DarkRevenant | we both suck |
| 20:47.06 | BDmon | :D |
| 20:47.18 | BDmon | any idea how to keep my marines dancing? |
| 20:47.25 | DarkRevenant | anyone |
| 20:47.26 | DarkRevenant | know why |
| 20:47.26 | BDmon | they only do it every now and then |
| 20:47.41 | DarkRevenant | the up vector on the setrotation actor message |
| 20:47.43 | DarkRevenant | doesn't do anything? |
| 20:47.55 | DarkRevenant | it seems to be totally nonfunctional |
| 20:47.58 | BDmon | never noticed |
| 20:47.59 | BDmon | :] |
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| 20:48.08 | DarkRevenant | it's stuck on 0 0 1 |
| 20:48.14 | BDmon | didnt get that far in data editor yet |
| 20:48.20 | DarkRevenant | this is triggers |
| 20:48.22 | alestane | Anyone recommend a guide on making validators in SC2? |
| 20:48.23 | BDmon | i did find a typo though |
| 20:48.46 | BDmon | abability instead of apability |
| 20:49.12 | DarkRevenant | what the fuck is apability |
| 20:49.24 | BDmon | ~apability |
| 20:49.33 | BDmon | ~define: apability |
| 20:49.51 | DarkRevenant | ~kill yourself |
| 20:49.51 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited pseudoneutrino gun at yourself |
| 20:50.13 | BDmon | ~revive |
| 20:50.13 | DarkRevenant | ~kill purl |
| 20:50.13 | purl | ACTION shoots a super-inverse anti-tachyon gun at purl |
| 20:50.13 | BDmon | lol u killed it |
| 20:50.16 | BDmon | a |
| 20:50.31 | BDmon | well dno what apability is but it was spelled wrong |
| 20:50.33 | BDmon | hehe |
| 20:50.52 | BDmon | oh |
| 20:51.12 | BDmon | actualy lol it was tibability |
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| 20:51.31 | BDmon | instead of tipability |
| 20:51.46 | DarkRevenant | ~4chan |
| 20:51.46 | purl | i guess 4chan is the single largest repositiory of mentally scarring content. |
| 20:52.06 | DarkRevenant | ~pussy |
| 20:52.06 | purl | Read: darkrevenant |
| 20:52.22 | BDmon | ~pussy |
| 20:52.22 | purl | Read: bdmon |
| 20:52.26 | BDmon | .. |
| 20:52.29 | DarkRevenant | ~fuck you |
| 20:52.29 | purl | I've heard better pick up lines from a goat with Aspergers. |
| 20:52.38 | BDmon | lol |
| 20:52.42 | DarkRevenant | fuck you is a pickup line |
| 20:52.43 | DarkRevenant | wat |
| 20:52.48 | DarkRevenant | "HEY, FUCK YOU" |
| 20:52.55 | DarkRevenant | "Oh sure i'll sleep with you." |
| 20:52.58 | BDmon | he ment you fuck? |
| 20:53.30 | DarkRevenant | ~this sucks |
| 20:53.43 | Bounty | Hey Rev, are you no longer doing reviews? |
| 20:53.50 | DarkRevenant | i have |
| 20:53.57 | DarkRevenant | only a very small window of time to play maps |
| 20:54.05 | DarkRevenant | and during that window of time |
| 20:54.10 | DarkRevenant | i usually make my own map |
| 20:54.21 | DarkRevenant | since it's the ONLY time I can actually decently test my stuff |
| 20:55.05 | DarkRevenant | so i will do reviews later |
| 20:55.10 | DarkRevenant | when I feel the need to |
| 20:55.18 | DarkRevenant | i.e. when i'm bored to shit of making my map |
| 20:55.24 | DarkRevenant | and have nothing else on my list of things to play |
| 20:55.38 | DarkRevenant | I have maybe 1 or 2 days of the week where i can actually |
| 20:55.44 | DarkRevenant | sit down and do what i want on a decent computer |
| 20:55.52 | DarkRevenant | otherwise i'm stuck here on the world's worst laptop |
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| 21:05.40 | Doom | hi |
| 21:06.08 | Doom | sixen? |
| 21:07.30 | Doom | ? |
| 21:08.10 | Doom | ok well im haven some troble with a model |
| 21:08.23 | Doom | it has no attachment points on it |
| 21:08.39 | Doom | so i cant mod the MODEL height |
| 21:08.44 | Doom | plz help |
| 21:09.08 | Doom | the model is MotherShipBeaconLight_Low |
| 21:10.10 | Helral | there is an Z position somewhere which is the height. it's something to do with site ops. |
| 21:10.41 | BDmon | how could i best make this trigger: if player clicks 5 times on any unit it dances.. |
| 21:10.46 | Doom | im trying to get the model centered on the unit |
| 21:10.49 | Sixen | sup |
| 21:10.49 | BDmon | but has to be 5x on same unit |
| 21:11.07 | BDmon | hi Helral |
| 21:11.09 | Doom | hi sixen |
| 21:11.17 | Doom | sixen can u helop |
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| 21:11.18 | Helral | BDmon: clickresponse ;p |
| 21:11.28 | Doom | help? |
| 21:11.31 | BDmon | ye but how u track the clicks |
| 21:11.38 | BDmon | arrays? |
| 21:11.53 | Helral | BDmon: it's a behavior |
| 21:11.58 | BDmon | oww |
| 21:12.04 | BDmon | k lemme look into that |
| 21:12.17 | Doom | ok well im haven some troble with a model [16:07] <Doom> it has no attachment points on it [16:07] <Doom> so i cant mod the MODEL height [16:07] <Doom> plz help |
| 21:12.47 | Helral | [16:10] <Helral> there is an Z position somewhere which is the height. it's something to do with site ops. |
| 21:13.05 | Doom | i know but |
| 21:13.20 | Doom | i went to thge actor i use for Heal Jutu |
| 21:13.25 | Doom | the* |
| 21:13.58 | Doom | and added the Actor Creation - Height -3 |
| 21:14.08 | Doom | didnt do sqaut |
| 21:15.28 | Doom | can any 1 help with the SiteOp ? |
| 21:15.44 | Doom | to just modifiy the height |
| 21:16.22 | Doom | i want to change the height of my actor but not the actor its attached to |
| 21:17.09 | Doom | ? |
| 21:18.02 | Doom | and btw |
| 21:18.07 | Doom | im data editor pro |
| 21:18.14 | Doom | so if u need help |
| 21:18.17 | Doom | tell |
| 21:18.18 | Doom | me |
| 21:18.19 | Doom | xD |
| 21:18.24 | Doom | i wanna help u |
| 21:18.25 | Helral | btw what are you using to attach it? |
| 21:18.59 | Doom | im makeing a naruto map and i made a behavior that attachs a model every time its on |
| 21:19.16 | Doom | its called "Heal Jutu" |
| 21:19.30 | Doom | basicly the behaviors done |
| 21:19.35 | Doom | but the model |
| 21:19.37 | Doom | T.T |
| 21:19.44 | Helral | does the behavior attach the model or does an effect do it? |
| 21:19.54 | Doom | the behavior |
| 21:20.03 | Doom | cuse i made an actor |
| 21:20.29 | Doom | that says Behavior.Heal Jutu.On - Create |
| 21:20.40 | Doom | so the actor creates every time |
| 21:20.51 | Doom | that behavior is on |
| 21:21.07 | BDmon | i dno much but u can also hide and show right? |
| 21:21.17 | Doom | yess |
| 21:21.21 | Doom | FLAGS |
| 21:21.22 | Doom | xD |
| 21:21.30 | BDmon | ah but u dont want that |
| 21:21.53 | Doom | im very pro at the data editor and suck with triggers |
| 21:22.05 | Doom | and i dont know anything about site op |
| 21:22.07 | Doom | xD |
| 21:22.13 | BDmon | me neither |
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| 21:23.14 | Doom | if any of u have qustions ask me now |
| 21:23.17 | Doom | xD |
| 21:23.50 | BDmon | ye lol im trying to make a unit dance when u click 5 times on it |
| 21:24.04 | Doom | thats a trigger event |
| 21:24.04 | BDmon | duplicated the clickresponse behavior |
| 21:24.07 | BDmon | ah |
| 21:24.09 | Doom | i dont do triggers |
| 21:24.17 | Doom | but |
| 21:24.18 | BDmon | well there's the behaviour |
| 21:24.23 | BDmon | -u |
| 21:24.38 | Doom | there is a way to do it with the data editor.... |
| 21:24.48 | Doom | go to the actor |
| 21:24.51 | BDmon | but it makes effects |
| 21:24.57 | Doom | and add an event |
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| 21:25.13 | Helral | BDmon what did you want as effect for the clicks? |
| 21:25.24 | BDmon | make the unit dance :] |
| 21:25.27 | BDmon | ofc |
| 21:25.29 | Doom | that clicked.5.on |
| 21:25.43 | Doom | and action |
| 21:25.44 | BDmon | ah ye |
| 21:25.45 | Helral | think there's a effect that sends an actor message. |
| 21:25.56 | BDmon | hmm both interesting |
| 21:26.02 | Doom | lol |
| 21:26.02 | BDmon | lemme check |
| 21:26.12 | Doom | sixen |
| 21:26.13 | Doom | ? |
| 21:27.42 | Doom | ????????? |
| 21:27.51 | Doom | dead chat? |
| 21:28.19 | Helral | BDmon: else you can do it with creating an dummy ability which you apply to the units, which you then trigger. |
| 21:28.48 | BDmon | a true thanks |
| 21:28.55 | BDmon | events always kill me |
| 21:28.57 | BDmon | :| |
| 21:29.11 | BDmon | need to find some tutorials on that |
| 21:29.34 | Doom | lol |
| 21:29.51 | Doom | demonette |
| 21:29.51 | Doom | ? |
| 21:29.56 | Demonette | Mh? |
| 21:29.58 | Demonette | what is it? |
| 21:30.04 | Doom | xD |
| 21:30.08 | Doom | i wanna know |
| 21:30.25 | Doom | how do you mod a MODEL's height |
| 21:30.25 | Doom | ? |
| 21:30.36 | Demonette | ? |
| 21:30.50 | Demonette | skale it? |
| 21:30.54 | Demonette | on the actor |
| 21:31.06 | Demonette | think you can use the skaling on the model too... |
| 21:31.16 | Doom | no i mean |
| 21:31.23 | Demonette | You mean? |
| 21:31.48 | Doom | MotherShipBeaconLight_Low |
| 21:32.01 | Doom | it is spawned above the nexus |
| 21:32.09 | Demonette | Mmmhhh |
| 21:32.14 | Demonette | and? |
| 21:32.35 | Doom | i want it to center on the unit |
| 21:32.53 | Demonette | this is more about attachment points isn't it? |
| 21:32.58 | Doom | lolo |
| 21:33.00 | Doom | lol |
| 21:33.01 | Doom | no |
| 21:33.16 | Doom | the model has a default z height |
| 21:33.26 | Demonette | Mmmhh |
| 21:33.33 | Doom | and when u attach it to a unit aka by behavior |
| 21:33.39 | Demonette | yea? |
| 21:33.39 | Doom | on orign |
| 21:33.43 | Demonette | then the skale changes? |
| 21:33.46 | Demonette | or what? |
| 21:33.54 | Helral | BDmon: dummy dmg effect is prolly even easier. |
| 21:33.57 | Doom | its 3 height above the unit |
| 21:34.07 | Demonette | Hi helral |
| 21:34.09 | Doom | the Origin |
| 21:34.12 | Demonette | =P |
| 21:34.23 | Bounty | Who the fuck hacks an Itunes account? lol |
| 21:34.34 | Demonette | I don't hack such accounts |
| 21:34.42 | Bounty | And buys shit with it |
| 21:34.49 | Bounty | Like is this person retarded? |
| 21:34.57 | Bounty | You were better off torrenting it! |
| 21:34.58 | Demonette | well you could work around with an attachment point that is 3 height values under the unit |
| 21:35.11 | Demonette | or you can skale the model z value down |
| 21:35.16 | Doom | how |
| 21:35.18 | Doom | tell me |
| 21:35.21 | Doom | plz |
| 21:35.22 | Doom | xD |
| 21:35.24 | Demonette | XD |
| 21:35.37 | Doom | the demon princess |
| 21:35.39 | BDmon | Helral: i was looking how to go from behavior to effect to ability |
| 21:35.45 | Demonette | where? |
| 21:35.50 | Doom | u |
| 21:35.51 | Doom | xD |
| 21:36.17 | Helral | BDmon: behavior to dmg effect is prolly shorter. no need to give all the units that ability then :) |
| 21:36.27 | Demonette | =( helral doesn't like me anymore |
| 21:36.36 | Doom | demonette |
| 21:36.39 | Helral | curls up at Demonette's feet |
| 21:36.39 | BDmon | true |
| 21:36.41 | Helral | meows |
| 21:36.48 | Demonette | doom i will try to look at it.... i haven't opened the editor since weeks |
| 21:36.54 | Doom | xD |
| 21:36.55 | Doom | ok |
| 21:36.56 | BDmon | and i can catch damage effect with trigger right? |
| 21:37.03 | Helral | yup |
| 21:37.05 | Demonette | hi Helral |
| 21:37.14 | Demonette | when you are going to leave? |
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| 21:37.30 | Helral | after this movie I'm watching is over I'm going to nap ;p |
| 21:37.45 | Demonette | So no match.... mmmhh |
| 21:37.52 | Demonette | sry Helral cause earlier |
| 21:38.00 | Demonette | wasn't the best situation at that moment |
| 21:38.07 | Helral | no worries |
| 21:38.30 | Demonette | Okay... well |
| 21:38.35 | Demonette | I wasn't sure |
| 21:38.36 | Doom | xD |
| 21:40.50 | Demonette | CActorModel_Scale = 1 1 0.2? |
| 21:41.02 | Demonette | or better |
| 21:41.13 | Demonette | 1.0, 1.0, 0.2 or similar |
| 21:42.03 | Demonette | on the model actor... |
| 21:42.10 | Demonette | OR |
| 21:42.52 | Demonette | Create a new CActorSideOpForward |
| 21:43.18 | Demonette | give it a value for z about -3 or so |
| 21:43.36 | Demonette | and add this SideOperation to you original model actor |
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| 21:47.23 | Doom | demonette |
| 21:47.31 | Demonette | Mh? |
| 21:47.32 | Doom | which one works better |
| 21:47.34 | Doom | ? |
| 21:47.35 | Doom | xD |
| 21:47.37 | Demonette | None |
| 21:47.41 | Demonette | they work different |
| 21:47.50 | Demonette | it's up to how you want it to look like |
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| 21:48.10 | Doom | how do u add an actor to another actor? |
| 21:48.15 | Bounty | So, i think the map file size limit should be the same as your overall storage space limit |
| 21:48.21 | Bounty | Discuss |
| 21:48.25 | Doom | Create a new CActorSideOpForward [16:42] <Demonette> give it a value for z about -3 or so [16:42] <Demonette> and add this SideOperation to you original model actor |
| 21:48.34 | Doom | lol |
| 21:48.38 | Doom | so |
| 21:48.45 | Doom | 200 gigs per comp |
| 21:48.47 | Doom | ? |
| 21:48.48 | Doom | lol |
| 21:48.50 | Bounty | no |
| 21:48.58 | Bounty | We have a maximum storagr space of 50 mb |
| 21:49.04 | Bounty | so why cant that be the max file size |
| 21:49.05 | Bounty | Like |
| 21:49.14 | Bounty | You could have one 30 mb map and a 20mb map |
| 21:49.21 | Bounty | Use your overall storage as you see fit |
| 21:49.22 | Demonette | cause they don't like us bounty |
| 21:49.31 | Bounty | I know >< |
| 21:49.33 | Bounty | Im just sayin |
| 21:49.41 | Bounty | people are defending it because its stored on their servers |
| 21:49.52 | Demonette | they enslave you with pain... and let you feel it every day |
| 21:49.52 | Bounty | but it doesnt matter if we can already store 50mb |
| 21:50.14 | Doom | whats the max file upload limit |
| 21:50.17 | Doom | 30 mb |
| 21:50.18 | Doom | ? |
| 21:50.21 | Bounty | 10.5mb |
| 21:50.26 | Doom | oh |
| 21:50.33 | Demonette | they want to remember you all days that they own all the stuff you done that they rule over everything you may be able to create that they restrict you as they want |
| 21:50.33 | Bounty | And you can have 10 files, all equal to a maximum of 50mb |
| 21:50.34 | Doom | f**** |
| 21:50.36 | Bounty | So you could have |
| 21:50.40 | Bounty | 5 10mb maps |
| 21:50.45 | Bounty | but what im sayin is |
| 21:50.49 | Bounty | You should be able to have |
| 21:50.52 | Bounty | something like |
| 21:50.54 | Bounty | a 40mb map |
| 21:50.57 | Bounty | and a 10mb map |
| 21:51.13 | Bounty | Get rid of the individual map size limit |
| 21:51.18 | Bounty | and just use the overall storage space |
| 21:51.30 | Bounty | namsayin? |
| 21:51.32 | BDmon | sorry Helral im just abit confused about the behavior, how to attach it to a unit |
| 21:52.04 | Bounty | Doom |
| 21:52.09 | Doom | yess |
| 21:52.17 | Bounty | I assume from your reaction, that your map is over 10.5mb? |
| 21:52.23 | Doom | no |
| 21:52.25 | Doom | but |
| 21:52.35 | Doom | my naruto maps gunna be 30 |
| 21:52.37 | Doom | mb |
| 21:52.40 | Doom | damn |
| 21:52.42 | Bounty | No it wont |
| 21:52.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:52.44 | Bounty | =P |
| 21:52.47 | Doom | xD |
| 21:52.53 | Doom | its already 3 mb |
| 21:52.55 | Bounty | It will be 30mb but you'll be the only one able to p[ay it |
| 21:52.57 | Doom | T.T |
| 21:53.05 | Bounty | My map is at 10.1mb right now |
| 21:53.08 | Bounty | lolol |
| 21:53.20 | Doom | 10.1 mb max? |
| 21:53.23 | Bounty | no |
| 21:53.27 | Bounty | 10.5mb is the max |
| 21:53.34 | Bounty | im cuttin it close |
| 21:53.37 | Bounty | and im not even close to done |
| 21:53.37 | Doom | damn |
| 21:53.42 | Bounty | but i do have all the music and models in |
| 21:53.52 | Bounty | just gotta be careful with triggers |
| 21:53.56 | BDmon | that's annoying if u wanna test other maps |
| 21:54.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~IceChat7@adsl-ull-40-161.47-151.net24.it) |
| 21:54.23 | Bibendus | vjeux fix this stupid forum! |
| 21:54.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:54.35 | BDmon | did it bite u? |
| 21:54.47 | Bibendus | i hate the update bug :| |
| 21:54.48 | Bounty | Hey Bib, i redid the arena walls :) |
| 21:54.53 | Bounty | looks alot better |
| 21:54.55 | Bibendus | screen |
| 21:55.04 | Bibendus | i dont believe your judgement |
| 21:55.05 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:55.10 | Helral | BDmon: unit - behaviors |
| 21:55.14 | Bibendus | maybe they are worse |
| 21:55.27 | BDmon | Helral thats what i thought but its not showing |
| 21:55.29 | Bounty | sec let me open editor |
| 21:55.29 | vjeux | :( |
| 21:55.40 | Bibendus | fix it vj fix |
| 21:55.40 | Bibendus | ! |
| 21:55.45 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ingela (~Ingela@90-230-169-130-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 21:55.59 | vjeux | if you can find what's wrong |
| 21:56.01 | vjeux | i'll fix it! |
| 21:56.07 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 21:56.13 | Bibendus | u dont know |
| 21:56.16 | Bibendus | why the bug happened? |
| 21:56.26 | vjeux | nop :( |
| 21:56.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dashkal (~dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 21:56.35 | BDmon | what bug |
| 21:56.37 | Bibendus | same forum version? |
| 21:56.43 | Bibendus | when u changed server |
| 21:56.45 | Helral | BDMon: at the ultralisk it says this: Behavior - Behaviors - Behavior (Frenzy) |
| 21:56.50 | vjeux | this bugged during the server change |
| 21:56.58 | vjeux | but can't find what bugged it |
| 21:57.06 | Bibendus | is it the same forum version? |
| 21:57.12 | Bibendus | and why other bugs happened |
| 21:57.15 | Bibendus | like the forum lock thing? |
| 21:57.16 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:57.18 | vjeux | yeah |
| 21:57.22 | Bibendus | what other bugs |
| 21:57.24 | Bibendus | did u find |
| 21:57.26 | BDmon | yea i see |
| 21:57.28 | vjeux | forum lock has been there since the beginning |
| 21:57.37 | BDmon | but my behavior is not in the list |
| 21:57.50 | Helral | hmmm |
| 21:57.57 | BDmon | guess somethings not right with the damage yet |
| 21:58.00 | Bounty | Picture 1 |
| 21:58.02 | Bounty | http://tinypic.com/r/v49ydt/7 |
| 21:58.03 | BDmon | as it doesnt do anything yet |
| 21:58.21 | Bibendus | so |
| 21:58.25 | Bibendus | only the update thing |
| 21:58.26 | Bibendus | happened |
| 21:58.30 | Bounty | picture 2 |
| 21:58.30 | Bibendus | during the server dhange? |
| 21:58.31 | Bounty | http://tinypic.com/r/fw4whc/7 |
| 21:58.34 | Bounty | there you go Bib |
| 21:58.37 | Helral | BDmon: the trigger event = unit takes any dmg from effect: your dmg effect |
| 21:58.40 | vjeux | pretty much yeah :x |
| 21:58.40 | Bounty | screens >< |
| 21:58.56 | BDmon | yep |
| 21:59.02 | Bibendus | did u just add |
| 21:59.06 | Bibendus | the pipe? :| |
| 21:59.11 | Bibendus | it seems the same |
| 21:59.13 | Bounty | no |
| 21:59.18 | Bounty | there is a ledge on the bottom |
| 21:59.18 | Bibendus | i don't notice |
| 21:59.21 | Bibendus | the tile problem |
| 21:59.23 | Bounty | with bodies and bones |
| 21:59.23 | Bibendus | anymore |
| 21:59.42 | Bounty | its hard to notice it but thats the point |
| 21:59.46 | Bounty | little details |
| 21:59.51 | Bibendus | bounty |
| 21:59.51 | Bounty | nobody will notice the ledge on the details on them |
| 21:59.54 | Bounty | but its there lol |
| 21:59.58 | Bibendus | it's slightly better |
| 22:00.01 | Bibendus | but still sucks :| |
| 22:00.19 | Bounty | well thats what it is so i guess its gonna suck lol |
| 22:00.24 | Bibendus | and u just ignored my suggestions :D |
| 22:00.31 | Bounty | really dude? |
| 22:00.32 | Bibendus | so fuckz u!!!!! |
| 22:00.33 | Bounty | I did all of that |
| 22:00.38 | Bibendus | u didnt change the wall |
| 22:00.39 | Bounty | based on your suggestions |
| 22:00.50 | Doom | Create a new CActorSideOpForward [16:42] <Demonette> give it a value for z about -3 or so [16:42] <Demonette> and add this SideOperation to you original model actor |
| 22:00.55 | Doom | demonette |
| 22:00.55 | Bibendus | the lava means nothing |
| 22:00.55 | Bounty | there are no walls that would fit the atmosphere better |
| 22:00.57 | Doom | ? |
| 22:01.07 | Bibendus | nope |
| 22:01.16 | Bibendus | destroyed wall with force field on top |
| 22:01.18 | Bibendus | doesnt fit |
| 22:01.25 | Doom | i cant find Cactorsideopforward |
| 22:01.32 | Bibendus | they don't fit together |
| 22:01.33 | Bibendus | i mean |
| 22:01.41 | Bibendus | modern + retrò |
| 22:01.42 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:01.50 | Bounty | its just a barrier |
| 22:01.51 | Bibendus | and with the ground blood |
| 22:01.52 | Bibendus | and bones |
| 22:01.55 | Bibendus | they are too regular |
| 22:01.58 | curry-away | lol bib is so critical |
| 22:02.02 | Bibendus | same distance between them |
| 22:02.12 | Bounty | ...? |
| 22:02.12 | Bibendus | terraining is art |
| 22:02.14 | Bibendus | curry :D |
| 22:02.16 | Bounty | how can u make such a judgement |
| 22:02.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:02.19 | Doom | demonette |
| 22:02.20 | Doom | ? |
| 22:02.22 | Bounty | they are not the same distance at all |
| 22:02.22 | Bibendus | bounty |
| 22:02.27 | Bibendus | when someone that should be random |
| 22:02.30 | curry-away | is it artisitc sense or are you just following the rules? >.> |
| 22:02.30 | Bibendus | is too regular |
| 22:02.32 | Bibendus | you notice it |
| 22:02.32 | Demonette | grmpf |
| 22:02.41 | Demonette | WHAT? |
| 22:02.43 | Bibendus | for example |
| 22:02.45 | Bibendus | u didnt place |
| 22:02.49 | Bibendus | small groups of bones |
| 22:02.51 | Demonette | I'm wachting a vid |
| 22:02.52 | Bibendus | or blood splats |
| 22:02.57 | Doom | demonette when i try to make a new actor |
| 22:03.00 | Bibendus | its all |
| 22:03.01 | Demonette | there are many people around someone would know |
| 22:03.04 | Bibendus | splat + blood |
| 22:03.05 | Bibendus | single |
| 22:03.07 | Bibendus | same distance |
| 22:03.08 | Demonette | i'm sure someone will know |
| 22:03.10 | Bounty | Because i dont need it to be littered with stuff |
| 22:03.18 | Demonette | Look at other acteurs |
| 22:03.20 | Bibendus | not meaning to make it full |
| 22:03.23 | Demonette | you will find it there |
| 22:03.27 | Demonette | Look at the beams |
| 22:03.30 | Doom | kk |
| 22:03.34 | Bibendus | just make |
| 22:03.36 | Bibendus | small bunches |
| 22:03.41 | Demonette | they use such Side operations a lot |
| 22:03.51 | Bibendus | different distances and alignements |
| 22:04.07 | Bounty | small bunches makes it look like they are piled |
| 22:04.10 | Bibendus | and |
| 22:04.12 | Bibendus | i don't like |
| 22:04.14 | curry-away | just because it doesn't please you, or fit your artistic style bib, does not make it wrong. |
| 22:04.16 | Bibendus | the height of the pipe |
| 22:04.24 | Bibendus | stfu curry! |
| 22:04.26 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:04.30 | curry-away | nau! |
| 22:04.32 | Bibendus | as i said |
| 22:04.36 | Bibendus | its not my style |
| 22:04.44 | curry-away | sooo |
| 22:04.50 | Bibendus | soooo stfu |
| 22:04.50 | curry-away | have you played the map yet? |
| 22:04.51 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:04.59 | Bounty | i know what to do |
| 22:05.02 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjeUfrohdKk |
| 22:05.04 | Bounty | There you go Bib |
| 22:05.08 | Bounty | That shall clear your hate |
| 22:05.08 | curry-away | lol |
| 22:05.12 | Bounty | >< |
| 22:05.20 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:05.34 | Bounty | Shit, if it got mephs to give me a compliment then its what i use VS haters now |
| 22:05.41 | Bibendus | ! |
| 22:05.46 | Bibendus | don't instantly rotate |
| 22:05.47 | Bibendus | the gyuz |
| 22:05.49 | Bibendus | guyz |
| 22:05.57 | Bibendus | give a small timing like 0.1 0.2 sec |
| 22:05.57 | Bounty | ok im done with u bib |
| 22:06.00 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:06.03 | Bounty | ur worse then Xara |
| 22:06.05 | Bounty | u watch that |
| 22:06.07 | Bounty | and thats all u say |
| 22:06.09 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:06.16 | Bounty | actually no i take that back |
| 22:06.19 | Bounty | ur not worse then Xara |
| 22:06.22 | Bounty | thats not possible >< |
| 22:06.56 | Bibendus | rly |
| 22:06.58 | curry-away | lol |
| 22:07.03 | Bibendus | its nothing something hard to make |
| 22:07.08 | Bibendus | just put a 0.1 0.2 sec on the rotate |
| 22:07.09 | Bibendus | of the guys |
| 22:07.13 | Bounty | i know but |
| 22:07.14 | Bibendus | the other animations are ok |
| 22:07.19 | Bounty | for that to be your only reaction |
| 22:07.26 | Bounty | Like |
| 22:07.28 | Bibendus | i m just telling u |
| 22:07.32 | Bibendus | what's wrong |
| 22:07.36 | Bounty | If you're/were a father |
| 22:07.37 | Bibendus | i won't say wow i like it |
| 22:07.38 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:07.45 | Bounty | You would be the dad that yells at his kid for getting an A and not an A+ |
| 22:07.49 | Bibendus | i m just giving u suggestions to make it better |
| 22:07.56 | Bibendus | do you need my approval? lol |
| 22:08.19 | Bibendus | it's better then the older videos |
| 22:08.22 | Bounty | no im just sayin |
| 22:08.23 | Bibendus | for sure |
| 22:08.27 | Bounty | Ill take critism |
| 22:08.28 | curry-away | but the approach of ONLY giving the suggestion and nothing about how it's nice, makes it seem like you don't like it. or that's all you saw, is what is wrong with it. |
| 22:08.34 | Bounty | nice spelling on my part btw |
| 22:08.36 | Bounty | but neways |
| 22:08.38 | Bibendus | i m not saying |
| 22:08.39 | Bibendus | it suck |
| 22:08.40 | Bibendus | stop |
| 22:08.42 | Bibendus | i m saying |
| 22:08.44 | Bibendus | to make it better |
| 22:08.46 | Bibendus | do this and that |
| 22:08.53 | Bibendus | soooo where is the prob? :D |
| 22:09.00 | Bounty | Yeah but you only seem to go negative lol |
| 22:09.05 | Bibendus | nope |
| 22:09.09 | curry-away | you still didn't say how it was nice in your initial statement ;) |
| 22:09.10 | Bibendus | just telling u how to make it better |
| 22:09.13 | Doom | lol |
| 22:09.13 | Bounty | atleat mephs had the manners |
| 22:09.18 | curry-away | you went straight for the negative ;) |
| 22:09.18 | Bounty | Mephs said |
| 22:09.19 | Bounty | atleast* |
| 22:09.23 | Doom | brb |
| 22:09.29 | Bibendus | i rly don't care much about other works |
| 22:09.29 | Bounty | Mephs "I'm impressed, but your still a shithead" |
| 22:09.30 | curry-away | you could have said, " |
| 22:09.33 | Bibendus | so i m cold on them |
| 22:09.35 | Bounty | SEe? |
| 22:09.42 | Bibendus | that doesnt mean i dislike it |
| 22:09.42 | curry-away | "this is nice, but you could do THIS to make it cooler" |
| 22:09.50 | curry-away | lol |
| 22:09.52 | Bibendus | last time he asked |
| 22:09.52 | Bounty | Well everything i show u |
| 22:09.57 | Bounty | i havent see na positive response from u |
| 22:09.57 | Bibendus | what can i do to make it better |
| 22:09.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:10.03 | Bounty | yeah |
| 22:10.04 | Bibendus | then i m just telling him what to do |
| 22:10.05 | Bounty | and what did i do? |
| 22:10.07 | Bibendus | to make it better |
| 22:10.07 | Bounty | I did it |
| 22:10.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster CKeen (~CKeen@dynamic-adsl-94-37-83-182.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 22:10.09 | Bounty | didnt i? |
| 22:10.12 | Bounty | i took ur advice |
| 22:10.15 | Bibendus | and now i m giving other things |
| 22:10.24 | Bounty | i didnt ask for advice |
| 22:10.25 | Bibendus | to improve even more your work |
| 22:10.27 | Bounty | i just wanted u to see it |
| 22:10.29 | Bibendus | oh :( |
| 22:10.29 | CKeen | Hey |
| 22:10.31 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:10.32 | Bounty | :) |
| 22:10.36 | Bibendus | then suck it! |
| 22:10.42 | CKeen | I know this is a starcraft 2 channel but can someone help me with a warcraft 3 mapping issue |
| 22:10.46 | Bibendus | do u want to hear my advices or not? |
| 22:10.47 | Bounty | now |
| 22:10.49 | Bibendus | to make it perfect? |
| 22:10.51 | Bounty | here is something i will take advice on |
| 22:10.57 | *** join/#sc2mapster P_R_Deltoid (~P_R_Dontk@c-76-20-43-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:11.03 | Bibendus | 3 things |
| 22:11.03 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgOkOM7a8bc |
| 22:11.06 | Bibendus | not hard to make |
| 22:11.07 | Bounty | Not the video itself |
| 22:11.09 | Bounty | but the UI |
| 22:11.14 | Bibendus | i suck at ui |
| 22:11.18 | Bounty | thats the new UI |
| 22:11.23 | Bounty | instead of that text shit on the left hand side |
| 22:11.25 | Bounty | its a tug bar |
| 22:11.27 | Bibendus | and i wont see the video if u won't listen my fixes on the other video :D |
| 22:11.36 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:11.38 | Bounty | fine |
| 22:11.39 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:11.58 | Bibendus | so whats your decision? :D |
| 22:12.03 | Bounty | i said fine |
| 22:12.06 | Bounty | mother fucker :) |
| 22:12.09 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:12.13 | Bibendus | as i said |
| 22:12.16 | Bibendus | the rotation of the guyz |
| 22:12.19 | Bibendus | then |
| 22:12.22 | Bibendus | the final explosion |
| 22:12.27 | Bibendus | is 2 much colorized |
| 22:12.33 | Bibendus | and looses the texture quality |
| 22:12.41 | Bounty | yeah i know those things >< |
| 22:12.47 | Bibendus | try to decrease the red coloring |
| 22:12.48 | Bounty | That video is the first version |
| 22:12.50 | Bibendus | or add an alpha |
| 22:12.52 | Bibendus | a glow |
| 22:12.54 | Bibendus | who knows |
| 22:12.56 | Bibendus | and |
| 22:13.05 | Bibendus | the pipes at the middle of the wall are not soo good |
| 22:13.11 | Bibendus | usually pipes are placed at bottom |
| 22:13.12 | Bibendus | or top |
| 22:13.24 | Bounty | Well they connect to something |
| 22:13.28 | Bounty | at the entrance |
| 22:13.30 | Bibendus | i suppose u can do it |
| 22:13.33 | Bibendus | lower |
| 22:13.34 | Bounty | no |
| 22:13.35 | Bibendus | or not? |
| 22:13.36 | Bounty | they already do that |
| 22:13.42 | Bounty | they connect to something lol |
| 22:13.45 | Bibendus | u cant lower the whole thing? |
| 22:13.46 | Bounty | so it makes sense |
| 22:13.58 | Bounty | i could but then the ledge wouldnt make sense |
| 22:14.06 | Bounty | if there isnt enough space between them |
| 22:14.38 | Bibendus | doesnt a pipe with vertical curve exists? |
| 22:14.40 | Bibendus | exist |
| 22:14.49 | Bounty | not sure |
| 22:15.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster nolliepoper (6165e03b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.101.224.59) |
| 22:15.05 | Bibendus | the other parts are ok |
| 22:15.20 | Bounty | btw |
| 22:15.25 | Bibendus | and if u can make better splats / bones placement |
| 22:15.26 | Bounty | in that video i posted showing the UI |
| 22:15.33 | Bounty | u can see the things the pipes connect to |
| 22:15.34 | Bibendus | u will do a perfect job |
| 22:15.41 | nolliepoper | back from class bounty |
| 22:15.48 | Bibendus | i've seen |
| 22:15.49 | Bounty | >< |
| 22:15.49 | nolliepoper | you still in here chillin? |
| 22:15.49 | Bibendus | the connection |
| 22:15.57 | Bounty | yes nollie |
| 22:15.57 | Bibendus | in the other vid |
| 22:16.10 | Bounty | Chatting with Xara for 15 minutes killed my map motivation for the day |
| 22:16.14 | Bounty | So im here |
| 22:16.21 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:16.50 | Bounty | btw while ur at it Bib |
| 22:16.57 | Bounty | feel free to take that entire video and tell me waht u think |
| 22:17.01 | Bounty | thats the current class im working on |
| 22:17.11 | Bibendus | whats the style |
| 22:17.13 | Bibendus | make more damage |
| 22:17.15 | Bibendus | then enemies |
| 22:17.19 | Bibendus | to win the game? |
| 22:17.25 | Bounty | watch the UI |
| 22:17.31 | Bounty | u see how the indicator moves? |
| 22:17.31 | Bibendus | i m making a question |
| 22:17.33 | Bounty | to my side |
| 22:17.33 | Bibendus | answer :D |
| 22:17.40 | Bounty | im answering it |
| 22:17.45 | Bounty | this is the best way to explain it |
| 22:17.46 | Bibendus | just tell me |
| 22:17.48 | Bibendus | yes/not |
| 22:17.55 | Bounty | its more in depth then that! |
| 22:17.58 | Bounty | fuck |
| 22:17.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:18.01 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:18.05 | Bounty | Anyways |
| 22:18.10 | Bibendus | yes or not |
| 22:18.10 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:18.11 | Bounty | When you watch that video when you see my hit him |
| 22:18.14 | Bounty | the bar moves to my side |
| 22:18.18 | Bounty | When they hit us |
| 22:18.21 | Bounty | it moves to theirs |
| 22:18.21 | Bibendus | so its like i m saying |
| 22:18.23 | Bounty | so its a tug |
| 22:18.30 | Bounty | but its not overall damage |
| 22:18.33 | Bibendus | the team that deals more damage |
| 22:18.33 | Demonette | *jawn* |
| 22:18.34 | Bounty | because you could be winning |
| 22:18.34 | Bibendus | wins |
| 22:18.35 | Demonette | Oh fuck |
| 22:18.39 | Bounty | no |
| 22:18.40 | Demonette | i'm tired... |
| 22:18.44 | Bibendus | yes |
| 22:18.45 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:18.47 | Bounty | u could be 1 point from winning |
| 22:18.52 | Bounty | and the bar could slide all the way to their side |
| 22:19.03 | Demonette | Slidy slide! |
| 22:19.03 | Bounty | so its not overall damage |
| 22:19.06 | Bounty | its teamwork |
| 22:19.08 | Bibendus | if u know |
| 22:19.10 | Bibendus | something about math |
| 22:19.11 | Bounty | u gotta do things together |
| 22:19.15 | Bibendus | the position of the cursor |
| 22:19.15 | Demonette | has someone done a good break-out so far? |
| 22:19.28 | Bibendus | will be at the difference between point of team x and point of team y |
| 22:19.30 | Bibendus | as i said |
| 22:19.31 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:19.37 | Bounty | yeah |
| 22:19.42 | Demonette | I want a good breakout =( |
| 22:19.46 | Bounty | thats how it moves |
| 22:19.49 | Bibendus | so the team that deals more damage wins |
| 22:19.54 | Bounty | no lol |
| 22:19.59 | Bibendus | why not |
| 22:19.59 | Bounty | its not overall damage |
| 22:20.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster popman (~popman@cpe-184-59-136-214.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 22:20.02 | Bibendus | if x < Y |
| 22:20.04 | Bibendus | Y win |
| 22:20.10 | Bounty | no because lets say |
| 22:20.14 | Bounty | the slider is all the way on ur sidde |
| 22:20.17 | Bibendus | damage/ abilities points |
| 22:20.20 | Bibendus | what the fuck is it |
| 22:20.20 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:20.23 | Bounty | but one of your teammates gets hit with shit loads of stuff |
| 22:20.27 | Bounty | then it slides to them |
| 22:20.31 | Bounty | so its not overall damage |
| 22:20.33 | Bounty | its combos |
| 22:20.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster liq3 (~liquidman@ppp118-209-32-52.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) |
| 22:20.40 | Bounty | ask Sixen |
| 22:20.40 | Bibendus | i don't care about the specific math |
| 22:20.41 | Bounty | he played |
| 22:20.47 | Bibendus | its |
| 22:20.49 | Bounty | and we had to do moves together |
| 22:20.50 | Bibendus | who deals more damage wins |
| 22:20.51 | Bounty | to win |
| 22:20.52 | Bibendus | and not |
| 22:20.56 | Bibendus | who deals more damage kills the other |
| 22:21.04 | Bounty | no damnit |
| 22:21.05 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:21.11 | Bibendus | if u let me finish my phrase maybe |
| 22:21.11 | Bounty | Because if it was whoever deals more damage |
| 22:21.14 | Bounty | it wouldnt be a tug |
| 22:21.18 | Bibendus | LET ME FINISH IT |
| 22:21.21 | Bibendus | HOLY FUCKING SHITZ |
| 22:21.22 | Bounty | OKAI |
| 22:21.34 | Bibendus | i understood that who deals more damage winz |
| 22:21.37 | Bibendus | and in this fucking video |
| 22:21.42 | Bibendus | u can't see the other guy dealing damage |
| 22:21.45 | Bibendus | he's stuck as an idiot |
| 22:21.47 | Bounty | yeah no shit |
| 22:21.51 | Bounty | its a demo for the class |
| 22:21.51 | Bibendus | so from this video |
| 22:21.53 | Bounty | and the UI |
| 22:22.01 | Bibendus | thats what i understood from this vid |
| 22:22.05 | Bibendus | just watching the ui |
| 22:22.11 | Bibendus | so if i understood the correct working |
| 22:22.12 | Bounty | ok well |
| 22:22.13 | Bibendus | u did a good job |
| 22:22.17 | Bibendus | that was my point |
| 22:22.30 | Bounty | do u understand how it actually works though? |
| 22:22.34 | Bibendus | a ui is good if explains the players whats happening |
| 22:22.35 | Bounty | if he was to attack me and hit in that vid |
| 22:22.38 | Bibendus | i said u |
| 22:22.39 | Bounty | it would move to his side |
| 22:22.41 | Bibendus | what i understood |
| 22:22.47 | Bibendus | who deals damage brings the bar to its size |
| 22:22.53 | Bibendus | that means that who deals more damage wins |
| 22:22.54 | Bounty | yes |
| 22:22.58 | Bounty | no |
| 22:23.00 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:23.03 | Bibendus | lolz |
| 22:23.05 | Bibendus | stop saying no |
| 22:23.08 | Bibendus | i don't care about the math |
| 22:23.13 | Bounty | ok fine |
| 22:23.17 | Bounty | sure |
| 22:23.17 | Bibendus | thats what someone can understand watching the ui |
| 22:23.24 | Bibendus | why the fuck should i understand from the gui |
| 22:23.30 | Bibendus | that combos make more points |
| 22:23.32 | Bibendus | or whatever? |
| 22:23.35 | Bibendus | we are talking about the UI |
| 22:23.37 | Bibendus | ... |
| 22:23.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:23.41 | Bounty | ok |
| 22:24.01 | Bibendus | i would change the cursor |
| 22:24.03 | Bibendus | to make it more fancy |
| 22:24.03 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:24.11 | Bounty | yeah thats just the first version |
| 22:24.13 | Bounty | thats actually |
| 22:24.17 | Bounty | the very first UI ive ever made |
| 22:24.20 | Bounty | ever |
| 22:24.32 | Bounty | i wanted to see if icould do it first lol |
| 22:24.34 | Bibendus | maybe something that glows more |
| 22:24.39 | Bounty | nah |
| 22:24.40 | Bibendus | when reaching one team |
| 22:24.43 | Bounty | i want a crowd members head |
| 22:24.46 | Bibendus | let me finishhhhhhhh |
| 22:24.46 | Bounty | to be the indicator |
| 22:24.47 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:25.10 | Bounty | >< |
| 22:25.11 | Bibendus | u can make it more evident/bigger/whatever |
| 22:25.14 | Bibendus | when it goes near |
| 22:25.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster Hjalte (~chatzilla@cpe.ge-0-2-0-835.arcnqu2.customer.tele.dk) |
| 22:25.19 | Bibendus | to one of the team |
| 22:25.22 | Bounty | yeah |
| 22:25.27 | Bibendus | so u see better then they are winning |
| 22:25.30 | Bibendus | and u are screwed |
| 22:26.06 | Bounty | Now how about abilities? |
| 22:26.09 | Bibendus | oh |
| 22:26.15 | Bibendus | does the first video |
| 22:26.18 | Bibendus | have sound effects? |
| 22:26.25 | Bounty | the intro? |
| 22:26.27 | Bibendus | ye |
| 22:26.30 | Bounty | yeah |
| 22:26.35 | Bibendus | why i only hear music? |
| 22:26.40 | Bounty | no clue |
| 22:26.45 | Bibendus | lol^ |
| 22:26.46 | Bounty | i can hear the sound effects |
| 22:26.52 | Bounty | i think they are alittle low |
| 22:26.56 | Bounty | bc of cinematic mode |
| 22:27.05 | Bibendus | they are really low |
| 22:27.09 | Bibendus | y |
| 22:27.14 | Bibendus | maybe fix it |
| 22:27.19 | Bounty | apparently cinematic mode lowers the volume |
| 22:27.20 | Bibendus | they are really too low |
| 22:27.21 | Bounty | on certain things |
| 22:27.25 | Bounty | idk why |
| 22:27.28 | Bibendus | i suppose u can change it maybe |
| 22:27.29 | Bibendus | who knows |
| 22:27.38 | Bounty | i just wont use cinematic mode lol |
| 22:27.40 | Bounty | its stupid neways |
| 22:27.43 | Bounty | just black bars ud ont need |
| 22:28.31 | Bibendus | for the abilities |
| 22:28.33 | Bibendus | i m surpised |
| 22:28.40 | Bibendus | u didnt make 2 fancy things |
| 22:28.41 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:28.47 | Bounty | yeah |
| 22:28.48 | Bounty | it says |
| 22:28.55 | Bibendus | no raimbow lightning or flashing nukes? |
| 22:28.56 | Bounty | i didnt make a second tier 3 yet |
| 22:28.59 | Bibendus | rainbow* |
| 22:29.02 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:29.08 | Bounty | he only has 5 of his 6 |
| 22:29.09 | Bounty | and |
| 22:29.13 | Bounty | tier 2 has some rainbow |
| 22:29.15 | Bounty | :) |
| 22:29.16 | Bibendus | just |
| 22:29.17 | Bibendus | for t2 |
| 22:29.21 | Bounty | if u watch closely lol |
| 22:29.22 | Bibendus | fix the attachment point of beam |
| 22:29.28 | Bibendus | the lightning beam |
| 22:29.36 | Bibendus | others are fine |
| 22:29.39 | Bounty | which one |
| 22:29.45 | Bibendus | tier 2 lightning |
| 22:29.48 | Bounty | the purple or kamehameha one |
| 22:29.53 | Bibendus | hits the back of the guy |
| 22:29.59 | Bibendus | lightning |
| 22:29.59 | Bibendus | ! |
| 22:30.01 | Bounty | yeah thats how it works |
| 22:30.03 | Bibendus | electric thing |
| 22:30.05 | Bounty | its a beam |
| 22:30.08 | Bounty | and if they step in it |
| 22:30.10 | Bounty | they get hit |
| 22:30.16 | Bounty | the beam doesnt just hit one guy |
| 22:30.20 | Bibendus | and it just stops behind him? |
| 22:30.22 | Bibendus | it seemed a bug |
| 22:30.23 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:30.28 | Bounty | yeah lik |
| 22:30.31 | Bounty | its a set distance |
| 22:30.37 | Bounty | same with the tier 3 |
| 22:30.42 | Bounty | makes it more useful |
| 22:30.50 | Bounty | and if u hit dead on with the end of the beam |
| 22:30.53 | Bounty | it does double points |
| 22:31.00 | Bounty | thats what Sixen and I did |
| 22:31.05 | Bounty | He stunned the boss |
| 22:31.08 | Bounty | and i nailed em |
| 22:31.10 | Bounty | with it |
| 22:31.10 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:31.25 | Bibendus | stop making he looks like your gay friend |
| 22:31.31 | Sixen | -_^ |
| 22:31.36 | Bibendus | ok he is |
| 22:31.40 | Bibendus | then continue np |
| 22:31.41 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:31.44 | Bounty | im just sayin bc hes the only tester ive had in awhile |
| 22:31.49 | BDmon | BDmon |
| 22:31.49 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:31.53 | Bounty | i cant really bring up any other names |
| 22:31.55 | Bounty | bc there are none |
| 22:31.59 | BDmon | testing notify :] |
| 22:32.12 | Bibendus | i m soo pro that i don't need testing on my mapz |
| 22:32.24 | Bibendus | they are already complete and bugless when i release them |
| 22:32.25 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:32.34 | Bounty | but neways |
| 22:32.41 | Bibendus | *liesè |
| 22:32.42 | Bibendus | * |
| 22:32.42 | Bounty | Thoughts on the Kamehameha |
| 22:32.43 | Bounty | ? |
| 22:32.51 | Bibendus | ok |
| 22:32.55 | Bibendus | no rainbow |
| 22:32.56 | Bibendus | so its ok |
| 22:32.57 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:33.01 | BDmon | BDmon |
| 22:33.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:33.10 | Bibendus | Bibendus |
| 22:33.17 | Bibendus | oh that's funny! |
| 22:33.35 | Bounty | annnd |
| 22:33.36 | BDmon | BDmon? |
| 22:33.39 | Bounty | i think i only got one more thing to show u bib |
| 22:33.44 | Bounty | pretty sure you havent seen this one |
| 22:33.45 | Bibendus | Bibendus! |
| 22:33.46 | Bounty | very short |
| 22:33.49 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdA_1MzmTz8 |
| 22:33.52 | Bounty | Its only of one ability |
| 22:34.31 | Bibendus | is that an iron chef move? |
| 22:34.40 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:34.42 | Bounty | idk |
| 22:34.48 | Bounty | its just a shit load of hits |
| 22:34.53 | Bounty | and ur blade catches on fire |
| 22:35.10 | Bibendus | the only lol thing is that |
| 22:35.21 | Bibendus | the guy doesn't move an inch |
| 22:35.23 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:35.27 | Bounty | yeah |
| 22:35.36 | Bounty | hes paused |
| 22:35.48 | Bounty | that shit would be so OP if it was mobile |
| 22:35.49 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:35.59 | Bounty | plus, its a stun |
| 22:36.03 | Bounty | so u just gotta hit em one |
| 22:36.03 | Bibendus | no i mean |
| 22:36.06 | Bounty | to lock them |
| 22:36.10 | Bibendus | they lack of a get hit animation |
| 22:36.11 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:36.20 | Bounty | oh |
| 22:36.21 | Bounty | yeah |
| 22:36.26 | Bounty | :( |
| 22:36.34 | Bibendus | u see the dark templar hitthing thousand times |
| 22:36.38 | Bibendus | and he just doesnt care |
| 22:36.39 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:36.42 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:36.53 | Bibendus | did i hear a pinch on my ass? |
| 22:36.59 | Bibendus | feel |
| 22:37.02 | Bibendus | :| |
| 22:37.06 | Bounty | that ability is such a huge fuction |
| 22:37.06 | Bibendus | oooh my eng is terrible |
| 22:37.07 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:37.22 | Bibendus | i assure you |
| 22:37.28 | Bibendus | you can use a for trigger |
| 22:37.35 | Bibendus | to make all attacks instead of copy/pasting each one |
| 22:37.42 | Bibendus | it will become smaller |
| 22:37.44 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:37.47 | Bounty | for trigger? |
| 22:37.56 | Bounty | i just use a fuction with parameters |
| 22:38.10 | Bounty | action definition |
| 22:38.11 | Bounty | or w/e |
| 22:38.21 | Bibendus | aaand the loops? |
| 22:38.22 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:38.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster Acemore (~lol@90.84-49-196.nextgentel.com) |
| 22:38.27 | Bounty | no loop |
| 22:38.31 | Bibendus | omg |
| 22:38.33 | Bibendus | i was joking |
| 22:38.38 | Bibendus | and u already did it with no loop |
| 22:38.38 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:38.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:38.47 | Bibendus | u rly did it* |
| 22:38.48 | Bounty | yeppers |
| 22:38.56 | Bibendus | hey guys |
| 22:39.04 | Bibendus | the triggers that makes me spawn 500 units is too big |
| 22:39.17 | Bibendus | create 1 marine at x point |
| 22:39.21 | Bibendus | ... |
| 22:39.33 | Bounty | Well thats because its not all the same thing |
| 22:39.38 | Bounty | its all differant animations |
| 22:39.43 | Bounty | so they dont all look the same |
| 22:39.46 | Bounty | like with the shadows |
| 22:39.51 | Bounty | each shadow does a diff animation each attack |
| 22:39.58 | Bounty | AND |
| 22:40.01 | Bounty | its TWO fuctions actually |
| 22:40.05 | Bounty | it was to big |
| 22:40.08 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43EokiyhX3g&feature=sub |
| 22:40.12 | Bounty | so the first one goes into the second one :) |
| 22:41.14 | Bounty | So are you going to play mah map when its released Bib |
| 22:41.17 | BDmon | when did u start making this map? |
| 22:41.17 | Bounty | You know you will |
| 22:41.24 | Bounty | 2-3 weeks ago |
| 22:41.32 | Bounty | still got alot to do though |
| 22:41.34 | BDmon | cool |
| 22:41.50 | Bounty | its not the triggers and stuff that takes time |
| 22:41.52 | Bounty | its the ideas lol |
| 22:42.00 | Bounty | Like, that caster class should have been done days ago |
| 22:42.08 | Bounty | but i cant think of what to make his 6th ability |
| 22:42.20 | Bounty | Then i got 2 more classes to do |
| 22:42.24 | Bounty | >< |
| 22:42.27 | BDmon | hehe |
| 22:42.31 | BDmon | keeps u off the street |
| 22:42.38 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:42.45 | Bounty | yep |
| 22:42.56 | Bounty | Not like i can spend time with the wife neways |
| 22:43.01 | Bounty | shes on Aion |
| 22:43.02 | Bounty | >< |
| 22:43.19 | BDmon | whats that |
| 22:43.24 | Bounty | an mmo |
| 22:43.36 | BDmon | ah :P |
| 22:43.37 | Bounty | nuff said |
| 22:43.39 | Bounty | lololol |
| 22:43.47 | BDmon | lol |
| 22:44.11 | Bounty | I show her these videos and shes like OH |
| 22:44.19 | Bounty | im like Oh? OH!? |
| 22:44.21 | Bounty | ITS AMAZING! |
| 22:44.25 | BDmon | hehe |
| 22:44.27 | Bounty | I MADE THIS WITH MYY HAAANDS |
| 22:44.31 | BDmon | :D |
| 22:44.32 | Bounty | These hands... create |
| 22:44.34 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:44.41 | Acemore | sup Bounty and BDmon! |
| 22:44.46 | Bounty | hey ace |
| 22:44.47 | BDmon | demand respect |
| 22:44.50 | BDmon | yo Acemore |
| 22:44.53 | Bibendus | no bounty |
| 22:44.55 | Bibendus | i won't play it |
| 22:45.05 | Bounty | yes you will |
| 22:45.07 | Bibendus | i didnt play a single custom map |
| 22:45.14 | Bibendus | in my sc2 life |
| 22:45.17 | Bibendus | why should i play yours |
| 22:45.18 | Bibendus | ;:D |
| 22:45.21 | Bounty | You will play this |
| 22:45.29 | Bibendus | i don't even play sc2 |
| 22:45.34 | Bibendus | cuz i m just making mapz! |
| 22:45.40 | Bounty | Because im offering $200 to the first team to complete the game without a single loss |
| 22:45.40 | Bibendus | and playing other games |
| 22:45.48 | nolliepoper | the sc2mapster ventrilo has been invaded by 11 Turkish that play Knight Online. |
| 22:45.56 | Bibendus | easy to trigger an auto defeat |
| 22:45.58 | Bibendus | AH! |
| 22:46.02 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:46.04 | Acemore | if 2 players are allied as the game launches, then you set them as enemies |
| 22:46.09 | Bounty | There is no defeat |
| 22:46.14 | Acemore | is it possible to keep the chat from defaulting to Allies: ? |
| 22:46.15 | Bibendus | lol? |
| 22:46.17 | Bounty | u fail the encounter |
| 22:46.22 | Bounty | and u can restart the fight |
| 22:46.26 | Bounty | without viewing the entrance again |
| 22:46.32 | BDmon | lol nolliepoper |
| 22:46.34 | Bounty | but thats what i mean |
| 22:46.36 | Bibendus | record turkish guys |
| 22:46.36 | Bounty | no failures |
| 22:46.43 | Bibendus | and lets place them on the mapster news |
| 22:46.43 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:46.44 | nolliepoper | Bounty just program your map to keep track of the players that beat it and in how many tries. |
| 22:46.51 | BDmon | hehe indeed |
| 22:47.06 | nolliepoper | why record them? I can with audacity easy |
| 22:47.14 | Bounty | nah man i want video evidence nollie |
| 22:47.22 | Bounty | Because i know its going to be impossible |
| 22:47.27 | nolliepoper | I not going to play a pvm map. |
| 22:47.31 | Bounty | No three people can work together 100% without error for that long |
| 22:47.33 | Bibendus | oh i was looking |
| 22:47.40 | Bibendus | the forum edit |
| 22:47.43 | Bibendus | to check the bug! |
| 22:47.43 | nolliepoper | plus their is no way to prove the video is first try broski. |
| 22:47.55 | Bounty | It doesnt have to be first try |
| 22:47.58 | Bibendus | and bounty distracted me |
| 22:47.59 | nolliepoper | o ok. |
| 22:48.19 | Bounty | i mean i firmly believe |
| 22:48.22 | Bounty | nobody will EVER be able to do it |
| 22:48.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:48.27 | nolliepoper | is that map out yet? |
| 22:48.35 | Bounty | nah |
| 22:49.15 | nolliepoper | so if I error out then it restarts? |
| 22:49.29 | nolliepoper | so then I should just remake the game and delete the messup recording? |
| 22:49.33 | Bounty | u mean a bug? |
| 22:49.36 | Bounty | that wont happen |
| 22:49.38 | Bounty | :) |
| 22:49.47 | Bounty | this shit is going to be perfect |
| 22:49.51 | nolliepoper | not error on your end but mine. |
| 22:49.54 | nolliepoper | wow bro. |
| 22:50.00 | nolliepoper | <Bounty> No three people can work together 100% without error for that long |
| 22:50.00 | Bounty | oh then |
| 22:50.01 | Bounty | idk |
| 22:50.03 | nolliepoper | you said error... |
| 22:50.09 | Bounty | yeah |
| 22:50.09 | nolliepoper | then you freakout when I use it. |
| 22:50.30 | Bounty | not technicaly error |
| 22:50.30 | Bounty | i mean error on their part |
| 22:50.30 | Bounty | like they mess up |
| 22:50.30 | nolliepoper | that is what i meant too. |
| 22:50.36 | Bounty | you said error out |
| 22:50.37 | nolliepoper | so if I error out then just remake game for new recording? |
| 22:50.39 | Bounty | i figured u meant crash |
| 22:50.49 | nolliepoper | ur games glitched yo |
| 22:50.49 | Bounty | yeah sure |
| 22:50.56 | nolliepoper | yeah sure |
| 22:51.03 | Bounty | its not gonna happen though |
| 22:51.07 | Bounty | with how many attempts people need |
| 22:51.09 | Bounty | to be level 1 |
| 22:51.17 | Bounty | i doubt it will ever happen for the entire game |
| 22:51.21 | Bounty | to beat* |
| 22:51.31 | nolliepoper | calm down it's just a game. |
| 22:51.38 | Bounty | ? |
| 22:51.49 | nolliepoper | my boys and I will pvm ur map and come collect. |
| 22:51.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:52.04 | Bounty | if u say so >< |
| 22:52.15 | nolliepoper | I spent my last $60 on sc2 and dunno what a pylon is. |
