IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20101115

`00:03.31`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Doddler (cb34828e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.52.130.142)`
`00:03.47`	`Doddler`	`Hello?`
`00:05.54`	`Helral`	`meows`
`00:06.12`	`Doddler`	`Sup?`
`00:06.18`	`Helral`	`meows`
`00:06.33`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Demalii (48b1cf34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.177.207.52)`
`00:08.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster poiuy_qwert (~poiuy_qwe@CPE001b115db0ae-CM0018c0c24ffc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`00:09.12`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442d304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.48.77)`
`00:09.33`	`Bounty`	`><`
`00:12.28`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MindWorX (MindWorX@188.176.197.82)`
`00:19.57`	`*** join/#sc2mapster QueenGambit (1812208b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.18.32.139)`
`00:20.02`	`QueenGambit`	`Hello everyone`
`00:20.27`	`Bounty`	`Helloooo`
`00:20.28`	`RoarMan`	`HI QUEENGAMBIT!`
`00:20.40`	`QueenGambit`	`hi =)`
`00:20.41`	`RoarMan`	`Helral are you still in here meowing?`
`00:26.14`	`Bounty`	`So, anyone in a feedback giving mood? :)`
`00:26.55`	`currydevil`	`give back feed?`
`00:27.19`	`Bounty`	`u already gave me feedback didnt u?`
`00:27.28`	`Bounty`	`and what did u personally need back feed on? lol`
`00:28.17`	`currydevil`	`lol`
`00:28.37`	`RoarMan`	`I AM HERE`
`00:28.38`	`RoarMan`	`TO ASSIST`
`00:28.38`	`currydevil`	`I might have. i dunno, trying to change the game lighting... to tint the screen red when an event happens..`
`00:29.05`	`Bounty`	`well u would have to use a set lighting trigger and edit the lighting to tint red`
`00:29.16`	`RoarMan`	`BOUNTY WACHA NEED ME FO`
`00:29.18`	`RoarMan`	`I AM HERE`
`00:29.19`	`RoarMan`	`TO FEED`
`00:29.19`	`RoarMan`	`BACK`
`00:29.26`	`currydevil`	`well, i am in the set lighting action`
`00:29.29`	`Bounty`	`calm down first`
`00:29.31`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`00:29.32`	`RoarMan`	`Lol`
`00:29.34`	`currydevil`	`but I can't seem to find the right value`
`00:29.52`	`Bounty`	`just watch all of these videos`
`00:29.55`	`Bounty`	`and tell me waht u think`
`00:29.56`	`Bounty`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/14570-wip-win-the-crowd/#posts`
`00:30.00`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`00:30.07`	`Bounty`	`they only total like 3-4 minutes`
`00:30.13`	`Bounty`	`well curry`
`00:30.22`	`Bounty`	`the best way is to set the default lighting to the lighting u want to be red`
`00:30.26`	`Bounty`	`so u can see it in the editor`
`00:30.30`	`Bounty`	`and edit it from there`
`00:30.48`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Azu (~qwe@78-70-210-140-no156.tbcn.telia.com)`
`00:30.50`	`currydevil`	`ah...`
`00:31.03`	`Bounty`	`or u could be ghetto about it`
`00:31.12`	`Bounty`	`and just make a giant Omni Light Red Doodad`
`00:31.14`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`00:31.25`	`RoarMan`	`Bounty I'm a looking`
`00:31.28`	`Bounty`	`kk`
`00:31.38`	`Bounty`	`u must watch them all :)`
`00:32.15`	`currydevil`	`nahh..`
`00:32.16`	`currydevil`	`lol`
`00:32.22`	`currydevil`	`i'm going to create a new light`
`00:33.23`	`currydevil`	`i think....`
`00:33.40`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`00:33.48`	`Bounty`	`n just set it to the maps default so u see it in the editor`
`00:33.52`	`Bounty`	`n then edit from there`
`00:33.58`	`Bounty`	`so u can see what changes when u slide something`
`00:34.01`	`RoarMan`	`Bounty the vids are pretty cool`
`00:34.13`	`Bounty`	`I know but, what about the game itself`
`00:34.16`	`Bounty`	`:)`
`00:34.20`	`RoarMan`	`The game itself seems neat`
`00:34.27`	`RoarMan`	`Can you actually change the camera like that in game though?`
`00:34.31`	`RoarMan`	`I feel iffy on that element`
`00:34.34`	`Bounty`	`what do u mean`
`00:34.46`	`RoarMan`	`Like the camera is not locked on your character is it?`
`00:34.47`	`Bounty`	`it looks exactly like it does in the video lol`
`00:34.51`	`Bounty`	`yeah it is`
`00:34.52`	`RoarMan`	`Oh ok :P`
`00:35.12`	`RoarMan`	`The game looks pretty cool, the art assets are very cool`
`00:35.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster FockeWulf (434dca00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.77.202.0)`
`00:35.27`	`RoarMan`	`Oh btw does it lag a lot though, from the videos deosn't look like it lags at all even with custom UI`
`00:35.32`	`FockeWulf`	`Hey all`
`00:35.35`	`RoarMan`	`I'm guessing you're using WASD movement`
`00:35.38`	`FockeWulf`	`Got a question about actors`
`00:35.39`	`Bounty`	`nah it runs smooth`
`00:35.42`	`Bounty`	`yeah wasd`
`00:35.44`	`RoarMan`	`That's schweeet`
`00:35.50`	`FockeWulf`	`my wasd is smooth too :)`
`00:35.50`	`Bounty`	`its not PERFECT`
`00:35.54`	`FockeWulf`	`caouse mines fps as well`
`00:35.56`	`RoarMan`	`Ah`
`00:35.57`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`00:36.01`	`Bounty`	`but it doesnt effect gameplay`
`00:36.05`	`Bounty`	`like u wont notice it really lol`
`00:36.08`	`RoarMan`	`Ah ok`
`00:36.11`	`Bounty`	`unless`
`00:36.14`	`RoarMan`	`Yea from the video it looks smooth`
`00:36.15`	`Bounty`	`someone has a really bad computer`
`00:36.15`	`FockeWulf`	`i got a projectile system made as well, although that is far from perfect`
`00:36.31`	`RoarMan`	`Lol my projectile system was so botched XD`
`00:36.34`	`RoarMan`	`Soo fucking laggy rofl`
`00:36.42`	`FockeWulf`	`question: ive got a built in "black gate" which when lowered will be unselectable if you deselect it`
`00:36.47`	`FockeWulf`	`Anyone know what is going on?`
`00:36.54`	`RoarMan`	`Uhmm`
`00:36.54`	`FockeWulf`	`And how to fix it?`
`00:37.02`	`RoarMan`	`Is there any triggers associated with it?`
`00:37.05`	`FockeWulf`	`nope`
`00:37.07`	`RoarMan`	`if not I'd say it's either an actor problem`
`00:37.09`	`RoarMan`	`Or data problem`
`00:37.10`	`FockeWulf`	`its a built in gate`
`00:37.12`	`FockeWulf`	`that lowers`
`00:37.27`	`FockeWulf`	`the issue is it becomes unselectable when it is lowered if you deselect it`
`00:37.29`	`Bounty`	`Only one thing im debating on`
`00:37.32`	`Bounty`	`Is the final 2 classes`
`00:37.37`	`RoarMan`	`Fockewulf I'm guessing it morphs?`
`00:37.40`	`Bounty`	`As of now their models will be Nova and Kerrigan`
`00:37.43`	`RoarMan`	`Cool`
`00:37.44`	`FockeWulf`	`yup`
`00:37.45`	`Bounty`	`Sound good?`
`00:37.48`	`FockeWulf`	`its morphs`
`00:37.51`	`Bounty`	`or does Nova not fit`
`00:37.52`	`*** join/#sc2mapster BorgDragon (~BorgDrago@24.138.168.211)`
`00:38.04`	`FockeWulf`	`sup borg :)`
`00:38.09`	`BorgDragon`	`hey Wulf :)`
`00:38.16`	`RoarMan`	`I donno I think Kerrigan is more random tbh :P`
`00:38.22`	`RoarMan`	`But thats just me lol`
`00:38.34`	`FockeWulf`	`so roar do you know what is the issue with it?`
`00:38.34`	`Bounty`	`well shes going to be the Melee/Ranged Hybrid`
`00:38.39`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`00:38.43`	`BorgDragon`	`sup bounty`
`00:38.48`	`Bounty`	`Howdy Borg`
`00:38.53`	`FockeWulf`	`btw borg, i got my projectile system made and working smoothly (lagless)`
`00:39.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Dryeyece (42520918@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.82.9.24)`
`00:39.11`	`FockeWulf`	`I've also got it so i can walk inside of a few buldings`
`00:39.11`	`BorgDragon`	`im this -> \| \| close to getting my Sticky Bomb completed`
`00:39.12`	`RoarMan`	`Focke check to see that the lowerd version's flags are all correct`
`00:39.13`	`FockeWulf`	`:)`
`00:39.16`	`RoarMan`	`Maybe it's unselectable or something`
`00:39.18`	`BorgDragon`	`Sup dry ;)`
`00:39.21`	`RoarMan`	`Also could be problem with actors`
`00:39.25`	`BorgDragon`	`and awesome, wulf`
`00:39.30`	`FockeWulf`	`hmm, never thought to take it from that angle`
`00:39.30`	`RoarMan`	`Wulf that's sick :P`
`00:39.52`	`RoarMan`	`I love the words "lagless," Wc3 made that a rare commodity at times`
`00:39.55`	`FockeWulf`	`im game to host it for ya guys to put my money where my mouth is once i check this flag :)`
`00:40.06`	`RoarMan`	`You on US?`
`00:40.11`	`BorgDragon`	`lol sure i'll check it`
`00:40.25`	`RoarMan`	`I'm down like a clown if it's US :D`
`00:40.28`	`BorgDragon`	`ya he's on US`
`00:40.33`	`RoarMan`	`Hi borg!`
`00:40.38`	`BorgDragon`	`Roar!`
`00:40.42`	`RoarMan`	`Rawr`
`00:40.48`	`FockeWulf`	`NA`
`00:40.52`	`FockeWulf`	`i dont have an eu account`
`00:40.52`	`RoarMan`	`Schweet`
`00:40.53`	`FockeWulf`	`:(`
`00:41.05`	`RoarMan`	`I heard EU is like 20 bucks is that true? o.O`
`00:41.23`	`FockeWulf`	`last i heard it was 60 bucks here and 60 euros there`
`00:41.31`	`FockeWulf`	`which pissed the eu ppl off to no end`
`00:41.34`	`RoarMan`	`Lol you're probably right`
`00:41.45`	`RoarMan`	`Wow 60 euros`
`00:41.49`	`BorgDragon`	`whats the exchange rate?`
`00:41.52`	`RoarMan`	`That's like 100 bucks if I have my math right`
`00:41.56`	`BorgDragon`	`60 euros = ? bucks?`
`00:41.58`	`RoarMan`	`It's 1.5 dollars to euro I think`
`00:41.58`	`BorgDragon`	`WHAT!?`
`00:42.00`	`RoarMan`	`Yea`
`00:42.02`	`BorgDragon`	`100!?`
`00:42.06`	`RoarMan`	`Yayea`
`00:42.07`	`BorgDragon`	`OMG`
`00:42.21`	`RoarMan`	`1.37 to be exact`
`00:42.21`	`BorgDragon`	`no wonder pirating and cracking are so rampant`
`00:42.25`	`RoarMan`	`So it's like 80-90 bucks Iguess`
`00:42.36`	`RoarMan`	`Yea lol`
`00:42.53`	`FockeWulf`	`LOL 82 USD`
`00:42.54`	`FockeWulf`	`ROFL`
`00:42.56`	`FockeWulf`	`SUCKERS`
`00:42.56`	`BorgDragon`	`damn`
`00:43.13`	`FockeWulf`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:43.22`	`BorgDragon`	`+ taxes!`
`00:43.29`	`FockeWulf`	`yaaa so about 100 bucks`
`00:43.30`	`FockeWulf`	`ough`
`00:43.31`	`BorgDragon`	`:P`
`00:43.32`	`Dryeyece`	`hrmm if at the end of a trigger you turn that trigger off can it be triggered again afterwards?`
`00:43.44`	`FockeWulf`	`ya`
`00:43.46`	`FockeWulf`	`2 ways`
`00:43.51`	`currydevil`	`if you run it from another trigger, yes`
`00:44.01`	`FockeWulf`	`also check out the break function :)`
`00:44.02`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`00:44.05`	`Dryeyece`	`I mean from the same event that triggered it in the first palce`
`00:44.07`	`FockeWulf`	`uploading and hosting`
`00:44.24`	`currydevil`	`no? you'd have to run it from another trigger at that point`
`00:44.27`	`Bounty`	`What a fucking joke man`
`00:44.29`	`currydevil`	`if you turn it off... it's done.`
`00:44.32`	`Dryeyece`	`like the first time a player enters a certain region I play a cinematic but I only want that to ever happen once during each game so I figured id turn it off at the end`
`00:44.34`	`Bounty`	`Debates is under Tower Defense lol`
`00:44.49`	`Dryeyece`	`kewl thanks I just wanted to confirm before I made the trigger and wasted all the time p`
`00:45.15`	`currydevil`	`well you could just set a boolean variable too`
`00:45.32`	`currydevil`	`but, that's a little more than just telling it to turn off`
`00:45.35`	`RoarMan`	`Bounty lol`
`00:45.36`	`FockeWulf`	`ok its uploaded`
`00:45.43`	`Bounty`	`Can one of you do me a favor?`
`00:45.47`	`FockeWulf`	`so whos all in to thest the fps on na?`
`00:45.48`	`Bounty`	`Make something fucking fun lol`
`00:45.48`	`FockeWulf`	`?`
`00:45.53`	`BorgDragon`	`me Wulf`
`00:46.00`	`BorgDragon`	`im loggin on`
`00:46.01`	`FockeWulf`	`well my clan m8 is making an lotr builder`
`00:46.14`	`Bounty`	`Like, not an RTS game type`
`00:46.15`	`RoarMan`	`ME!`
`00:46.16`	`Bounty`	`Something new`
`00:46.18`	`RoarMan`	`roarman.996 gogo wulf`
`00:46.35`	`Bounty`	`I cant even take a break in the editor bc wtf am i going to do`
`00:46.41`	`Bounty`	`play tower defense?`
`00:46.43`	`lotharscm`	`lmao`
`00:46.56`	`RoarMan`	`Hey lothar did you get to fix your lobby?`
`00:47.01`	`FockeWulf`	`was anyone else in?`
`00:47.03`	`lotharscm`	`i think so`
`00:47.04`	`FockeWulf`	`bounty i see you on`
`00:47.05`	`RoarMan`	`MEMEM!`
`00:47.09`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`00:47.11`	`Bounty`	`notice im on`
`00:47.12`	`FockeWulf`	`id n number?`
`00:47.14`	`Bounty`	`but what am i doing?`
`00:47.14`	`lotharscm`	`i am trying to get 10 people together to test my map tonight`
`00:47.15`	`RoarMan`	`Wulf add me roarman.996`
`00:47.16`	`Bounty`	`nothing`
`00:47.28`	`lotharscm`	`anyone want to test a new AOS/dota in like 30 minutes`
`00:47.42`	`FockeWulf`	`sure`
`00:47.42`	`lotharscm`	`need a couple more`
`00:48.13`	`RoarMan`	`lotharscm I'm down like a clown`
`00:48.22`	`FockeWulf`	`roarman i sent request`
`00:48.26`	`FockeWulf`	`did you get it?`
`00:48.38`	`RoarMan`	`Uh no`
`00:48.53`	`RoarMan`	`FockeWulf was yo info?`
`00:48.57`	`lotharscm`	`i just added you roarman`
`00:49.00`	`RoarMan`	`That we go`
`00:49.02`	`RoarMan`	`Ok lothar`
`00:49.57`	`BorgDragon`	`wulf, roar, bounty... can you see my chat on SC2?`
`00:50.05`	`BorgDragon`	`wtf, fucking patch fux everyuthing up`
`00:50.15`	`Bounty`	`yes we can`
`00:52.49`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Azu (~qwe@78-70-210-140-no156.tbcn.telia.com)`
`00:53.26`	`currydevil`	`ok, i think i got it...`
`00:53.28`	`currydevil`	`maybe`
`00:53.38`	`currydevil`	`going to look weird as heck`
`00:54.49`	`nolliepoper`	`to to add range to an ability?`
`00:55.11`	`nolliepoper`	`would that be in the effect or ability?`
`00:55.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster QueenGambit (1812208b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.18.32.139)`
`00:55.41`	`QueenGambit`	`hi everyone`
`00:55.53`	`nolliepoper`	`hey`
`00:56.00`	`nolliepoper`	`you good with abilities queen?`
`00:57.38`	`QueenGambit`	`nope sworry`
`00:57.55`	`Bounty`	`Nollie`
`00:57.59`	`Bounty`	`Use triggers`
`00:58.02`	`Bounty`	`lolololol`
`00:58.32`	`nolliepoper`	`haha nice one.`
`00:58.46`	`QueenGambit`	`lol`
`00:58.46`	`Bounty`	`no but seriously`
`00:58.49`	`lotharscm`	`range is set on the ability`
`00:58.53`	`Bounty`	`i only say that because you're clearly having alot of trble`
`00:58.57`	`nolliepoper`	`what you don't know is the data editr is less laggy.`
`00:59.07`	`Bounty`	`o rly?`
`00:59.12`	`nolliepoper`	`yassir`
`00:59.20`	`Bounty`	`pretty sure my abilities run pretty smooth lol`
`00:59.24`	`Bounty`	`and they are all triggers`
`00:59.30`	`QueenGambit`	`I came here to c if anyones interested in creating a Desert Strike map`
`00:59.33`	`nolliepoper`	`so u be writting galaxy?`
`00:59.33`	`Bounty`	`well, fuctions but still`
`00:59.43`	`nolliepoper`	`when I roll with triggers atm they pure gui son`
`00:59.54`	`Bounty`	`i have no idea what you just said`
`00:59.55`	`nolliepoper`	`lulul`
`01:00.18`	`nolliepoper`	`I do my triggers with gui not custom writte galaxy`
`01:00.29`	`Bounty`	`wtf is GUI? lol`
`01:00.33`	`nolliepoper`	`lazy mode.`
`01:00.42`	`Bounty`	`i dont write code`
`01:00.45`	`Bounty`	`for my abilities lol`
`01:01.12`	`nolliepoper`	`bro you have to initiate everything for all your abilities with triggers?`
`01:01.20`	`nolliepoper`	`when you can just set them with the data editor`
`01:01.48`	`Bounty`	`actually`
`01:01.51`	`Bounty`	`i have 2 triggers`
`01:01.54`	`Bounty`	`left and right click`
`01:02.01`	`Bounty`	`that initiate up to 20 abilities`
`01:02.12`	`Bounty`	`depending on what class you are and what you energy is`
`01:02.15`	`nolliepoper`	`I bet you game initiation trigger is many lines of code or you have multiple game initiation triggers adding up to many lines of code.`
`01:02.44`	`Bounty`	`yeah but whos game has working abilities`
`01:02.46`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`01:02.47`	`Bounty`	`=P`
`01:02.58`	`Bounty`	`im just sayin im tryin to help u out here`
`01:03.25`	`nolliepoper`	`I don't think that is the reason my abilities don't work right.`
`01:03.40`	`nolliepoper`	`that is because I hardly know what means what when it comes to abilities.`
`01:03.52`	`Bounty`	`Its because Data Editor is to tedious`
`01:03.56`	`Bounty`	`Even if you knew everything about it`
`01:04.07`	`Bounty`	`You could still make 10x the amount of abilities u could with Data`
`01:04.13`	`Bounty`	`in the same amount of time`
`01:04.39`	`nolliepoper`	`latharscm is it? FieldEnergyBolt Ability - Auto Cast Range0`
`01:05.02`	`RoarMan`	`Leveling abilities in Sc2 is such a bitch`
`01:05.09`	`RoarMan`	`I do everthing with Trigger too now lol`
`01:05.17`	`RoarMan`	`Just check some variables deal X damage`
`01:05.23`	`lotharscm`	`there is just a field called range`
`01:05.30`	`nolliepoper`	`whereat?`
`01:05.47`	`lotharscm`	`on the ability, near the bottom of the list kinda`
`01:05.48`	`nolliepoper`	`stats range`
`01:05.51`	`lotharscm`	`if i remember right`
`01:05.53`	`lotharscm`	`yea`
`01:05.54`	`nolliepoper`	`what about channeling time?`
`01:06.00`	`nolliepoper`	`simple name?`
`01:06.17`	`lotharscm`	`i think its prepare time`
`01:06.21`	`lotharscm`	`but im not very sure`
`01:07.59`	`Bounty`	`hey loth`
`01:08.02`	`nolliepoper`	`prepair time is just a delay on the ability after it is casted.`
`01:08.09`	`Bounty`	`go to the win the crowd thread and watch the UI + 2nd Class Video`
`01:08.11`	`Bounty`	`n tell me what ut hink`
`01:08.17`	`lotharscm`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/8990-data-multi-phase-spells-advanced-difficulty/`
`01:08.25`	`Bounty`	`kk loth? :`
`01:08.27`	`Bounty`	`)`
`01:08.38`	`lotharscm`	`ok`
`01:08.42`	`lotharscm`	`where is the thread`
`01:08.47`	`Bounty`	`Project Workplace`
`01:10.14`	`lotharscm`	`nice`
`01:10.19`	`lotharscm`	`those spells look really good`
`01:10.22`	`lotharscm`	`ui nice too`
`01:10.29`	`nolliepoper`	`thanks for the link I was looking for a nice explanation tut last night.`
`01:10.30`	`Bounty`	`yeah its that tug bar i told u about`
`01:10.40`	`Bounty`	`the slider moves etc`
`01:10.44`	`lotharscm`	`ohh'`
`01:10.53`	`lotharscm`	`np nollie`
`01:10.57`	`Bounty`	`u can see it move in the video`
`01:10.59`	`Bounty`	`when i hit him`
`01:11.03`	`Bounty`	`it moves to my side`
`01:11.03`	`Bounty`	`:)`
`01:11.07`	`lotharscm`	`i am really bad at ui stuff`
`01:11.21`	`Bounty`	`thats teh first time ive ever made a UI`
`01:11.22`	`Bounty`	`ever`
`01:11.35`	`lotharscm`	`ah`
`01:11.42`	`lotharscm`	`well i mean leaderboards n everything`
`01:11.47`	`lotharscm`	`fixing my lobby broke my leaderboard`
`01:11.48`	`lotharscm`	`...`
`01:11.55`	`lotharscm`	`dont understand why`
`01:11.56`	`Bounty`	`:(`
`01:11.58`	`lotharscm`	`so dumb`
`01:12.05`	`lotharscm`	`but my leaderboard sux so i am just waiting to redo it`
`01:12.27`	`Bounty`	`u seem to always be having issues`
`01:12.28`	`Bounty`	`lol`
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`01:15.52`	`RoarMan`	`BOUNTY`
`01:15.58`	`Bounty`	`?`
`01:16.00`	`RoarMan`	`Hey`
`01:16.04`	`Bounty`	`sup lol`
`01:16.06`	`RoarMan`	`:D`
`01:16.13`	`Bounty`	`sry i quit`
`01:16.19`	`Bounty`	`i dont understand wtf we were doing`
`01:16.20`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`01:16.56`	`FockeWulf`	`im testing lag`
`01:17.01`	`FockeWulf`	`cause thats my no 1 concern`
`01:17.25`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MeSoHorner\|WB (~MeSoHorne@ip68-4-151-207.oc.oc.cox.net)`
`01:17.58`	`RoarMan`	`Ah`
`01:18.08`	`RoarMan`	`Lag wasn't too bad all things considered`
`01:18.21`	`FockeWulf`	`well lag or are you feeling the trigger loops?`
`01:18.53`	`RoarMan`	`I donno I would just get 10-20 fps sometimes`
`01:18.55`	`FockeWulf`	`and the only reason this works is caused u triggered this a diff way than most ppl do it`
`01:19.09`	`FockeWulf`	`i mean cause i triggered it*`
`01:19.12`	`FockeWulf`	`well`
`01:19.13`	`FockeWulf`	`what areas?`
`01:19.14`	`Bounty`	`Well if u guys still want to try out Win the Crowd let me know`
`01:19.17`	`Bounty`	`it wouldnt be a test`
`01:19.20`	`FockeWulf`	`ok im logging on`
`01:19.23`	`Bounty`	`would just be a demo`
`01:19.53`	`RoarMan`	`Im still online`
`01:19.56`	`FockeWulf`	`invite me`
`01:20.00`	`Bounty`	`hold on`
`01:20.08`	`Bounty`	`i gotta upload it lol`
`01:20.12`	`FockeWulf`	`actually in all honest im gonna tear is appart anyways`
`01:20.30`	`FockeWulf`	`mostly what im doing is proving the concept`
`01:20.33`	`MeSoHorner\|WB`	`getting an S2_Internal_Error`
`01:20.36`	`Bounty`	`Do you guys know how to play?`
`01:20.41`	`RoarMan`	`Yea`
`01:20.42`	`MeSoHorner\|WB`	`when i try to create a map`
`01:20.47`	`FockeWulf`	`is it like bfield egypt?`
`01:20.53`	`Bounty`	`no`
`01:21.02`	`FockeWulf`	`then no`
`01:21.05`	`Bounty`	`well, controls wise i guess u could say that`
`01:21.09`	`Bounty`	`but mechanics wise no lol`
`01:21.12`	`FockeWulf`	`mesohorner`
`01:21.20`	`FockeWulf`	`did you check the map varients?`
`01:21.25`	`Bounty`	`Ok well its like this`
`01:21.36`	`Bounty`	`Left Click for Melee Combos, Right Click for Flashie Moves :)`
`01:21.52`	`Bounty`	`Melee Combos Build your focus level and when you get to 10+ focus ur abilities move onto tier 2`
`01:21.53`	`FockeWulf`	`ah ok`
`01:21.55`	`Bounty`	`when you get to 20`
`01:21.59`	`Bounty`	`u get to tier 3`
`01:22.03`	`FockeWulf`	`nice`
`01:22.10`	`Bounty`	`Right click after tier 1 will use ur focus`
`01:22.15`	`Bounty`	`smae with tier 3, it will set u back to zero`
`01:22.24`	`Bounty`	`we hit them, we gain points they lose points`
`01:22.26`	`Bounty`	`etc`
`01:22.31`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`01:22.41`	`FockeWulf`	`you gonna invite?`
`01:22.46`	`Bounty`	`msg me`
`01:22.53`	`Bounty`	`for invite`
`01:24.12`	`Bounty`	`Are you coming RoarMan?`
`01:24.46`	`MeSoHorner\|WB`	`checking map variants`
`01:25.23`	`RoarMan`	`IM IN`
`01:25.24`	`RoarMan`	`SORRY`
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`01:34.28`	`RoarMan`	`Dumm dee dum`
`01:35.26`	`nolliepoper`	`So space doesn't work as a hotkey on a button?`
`01:35.34`	`Dryeyece`	`which UI panel is the one where the units wireframe and stuff shows up?`
`01:35.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster poiuy_qwert (~poiuy_qwe@CPE001b115db0ae-CM0018c0c24ffc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`01:35.42`	`Dryeyece`	`like whats the name of that particular panel`
`01:36.18`	`QueenGambit`	`ok it is official, im going to tackle my Desert Strike Night map even if I cannot display the editor (very low specs)`
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`01:37.25`	`FockeWulf`	`So bounty did it fix anything?`
`01:37.28`	`RoarMan`	`nolliepoper no`
`01:37.29`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`01:37.37`	`Bounty`	`it ran fine after u left`
`01:37.40`	`nolliepoper`	`okay`
`01:37.48`	`FockeWulf`	`my comp is in need of maintence`
`01:37.56`	`RoarMan`	`Mine too honestly`
`01:37.58`	`FockeWulf`	`trouble is my clan leader is down so i kinda want to keep the servers up`
`01:38.00`	`Bounty`	`well if ur specs are true`
`01:38.06`	`Bounty`	`then i dont understand why the hell you would be running on medium low`
`01:38.10`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`01:38.12`	`FockeWulf`	`well`
`01:38.19`	`FockeWulf`	`part of the reason i was lagging`
`01:38.26`	`FockeWulf`	`was cause i had the map editor open too`
`01:38.30`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`01:38.32`	`Bounty`	`dumbass`
`01:38.36`	`Bounty`	`u always close map editor :)`
`01:38.40`	`Bounty`	`atleast the terrain part`
`01:38.41`	`FockeWulf`	`hey normally im fine :)`
`01:38.50`	`FockeWulf`	`well that was all loaded`
`01:38.53`	`FockeWulf`	`with 2 maps in there too`
`01:39.00`	`Bounty`	`well do u guys want to try again?`
`01:39.02`	`FockeWulf`	`sure`
`01:39.04`	`FockeWulf`	`logging on`
`01:39.15`	`Bounty`	`RoarMan?`
`01:39.21`	`RoarMan`	`Yea`
`01:39.24`	`RoarMan`	`Give me a second`
`01:39.27`	`Bounty`	`msg me`
`01:39.32`	`RoarMan`	`okey`
`01:43.32`	`BorgDragon`	`sweet!`
`01:43.38`	`BorgDragon`	`Sticky Grenade 95% complete`
`01:43.53`	`BorgDragon`	`what's the best SOps to use?`
`01:44.07`	`BorgDragon`	`that will make it look like it's stuck to the unit, and not inside the unit`
`01:45.32`	`BorgDragon`	`SOpsActionImpact does not link it up at all`
`01:47.50`	`BorgDragon`	`I guess I'll use SOpsHead`
`01:48.01`	`BorgDragon`	`even though it hits the body, then appears on the head, lol`
`01:48.18`	`BorgDragon`	`or I can make an offset...`
`01:48.45`	`BorgDragon`	`but then the offset will only work with the tank model if I tweak it for tank.`
`01:53.23`	`RoarMan`	`WTF`
`01:55.06`	`Bounty`	`Hey Borg`
`01:55.14`	`Bounty`	`do you want to give Win the Crowd a try?`
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`01:56.23`	`BorgDragon`	`will it take long?`
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`01:57.14`	`Tordy`	`I forgot about that`
`01:57.16`	`Tordy`	`i need to poo`
`01:57.40`	`RoarMan`	`Borg not really`
`01:57.55`	`RoarMan`	`Borg you could just use Origin`
`01:58.07`	`BorgDragon`	`origin places it INSIDE`
`01:58.12`	`RoarMan`	`Oh true`
`01:58.15`	`BorgDragon`	`and I am using`
`01:58.20`	`BorgDragon`	`the Pickup Grenade`
`01:58.22`	`BorgDragon`	`model`
`01:58.26`	`BorgDragon`	`so if I attach it to head`
`01:58.26`	`Tordy`	`Prozaicmuze`
`01:58.28`	`RoarMan`	`You know what head is probably the best haha`
`01:58.33`	`BorgDragon`	`that one actually TOO High`
`01:58.42`	`BorgDragon`	`it floats over tanks and stuff, oddly enough`
`01:59.32`	`BorgDragon`	`and`
`01:59.36`	`BorgDragon`	`when I kill the actor`
`01:59.38`	`BorgDragon`	`it explodes`
`01:59.44`	`BorgDragon`	`where it originally was created`
`01:59.48`	`BorgDragon`	`even if I move the unit`
`01:59.49`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`02:00.05`	`BorgDragon`	`so a little bomb goes off somewhere else, but at the damage is at the unit no matter what`
`02:00.11`	`BorgDragon`	`and the grenade actor follows`
`02:00.22`	`BorgDragon`	`but death anim plays at creation point`
`02:03.35`	`RoarMan`	`Hey bounty`
`02:03.38`	`RoarMan`	`You still in that game?`
`02:03.46`	`BorgDragon`	`bounty's not here`
`02:04.36`	`RoarMan`	`Oh`
`02:04.37`	`RoarMan`	`Wtf`
`02:04.37`	`RoarMan`	`Lol`
`02:04.59`	`RoarMan`	`Hmm thats wierd borg`
`02:05.10`	`RoarMan`	`Your nade problem I mean :P`
`02:05.24`	`BorgDragon`	`yea`
`02:05.32`	`BorgDragon`	`I think it has to do with the pickup grenade model`
`02:05.40`	`BorgDragon`	`like, it floats by default in game`
`02:05.45`	`RoarMan`	`Hmm`
`02:05.49`	`BorgDragon`	`so it attaches to the tanks head`
`02:05.51`	`RoarMan`	`Can you give Actors default height?`
`02:05.52`	`BorgDragon`	`but "floating"`
`02:05.55`	`RoarMan`	`Ah`
`02:05.55`	`BorgDragon`	`no`
`02:06.07`	`RoarMan`	`Gah that sucks :/`
`02:06.16`	`BorgDragon`	`yep`
`02:06.18`	`RoarMan`	`Oh you can use those offsets you were talking about`
`02:06.30`	`BorgDragon`	`but like I said`
`02:06.39`	`BorgDragon`	`if I use offsets, it'll only work for the one unit or whatnot`
`02:06.40`	`RoarMan`	`Oh yes`
`02:06.48`	`BorgDragon`	`the grenade floats at different heights`
`02:06.53`	`BorgDragon`	`it looks fine when i use it on the thor`
`02:06.53`	`RoarMan`	`Ah`
`02:07.00`	`BorgDragon`	`because I guess the head attachment point is a little lower`
`02:07.11`	`BorgDragon`	`so if I do that, then the thor gets the grenade inside itself`
`02:07.14`	`RoarMan`	`Oh that's a problem O.o`
`02:07.15`	`BorgDragon`	`so you won't see it`
`02:07.17`	`BorgDragon`	`yep`
`02:07.31`	`BorgDragon`	`i tried also`
`02:07.34`	`BorgDragon`	`SOpsActionImpact`
`02:07.41`	`BorgDragon`	`but that doesn't do jack squat`
`02:07.49`	`RoarMan`	`Yea I read :/`
`02:07.51`	`RoarMan`	`Damn`
`02:07.55`	`RoarMan`	`Attachments were easier in Wc3 lol`
`02:07.58`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`02:07.59`	`BorgDragon`	`maybe`
`02:08.05`	`BorgDragon`	`i'll just go back to using Pod Missile`
`02:08.06`	`BorgDragon`	`as my actor`
`02:08.10`	`BorgDragon`	`cause that was working normally`
`02:08.13`	`BorgDragon`	`but it was too dark...`
`02:08.18`	`RoarMan`	`XD`
`02:08.20`	`BorgDragon`	`maybe SetTint with 5 HDR`
`02:08.21`	`RoarMan`	`Yea`
`02:08.26`	`BorgDragon`	`UGH!`
`02:08.27`	`RoarMan`	`That could do that trick`
`02:11.37`	`BorgDragon`	`well`
`02:11.39`	`BorgDragon`	`that sorta works`
`02:11.46`	`BorgDragon`	`5hdr ain't bright enough though`
`02:11.51`	`BorgDragon`	`still a very dark orange`
`02:12.00`	`BorgDragon`	`the only unit that it doesnt work on`
`02:12.02`	`BorgDragon`	`is the Thor`
`02:12.07`	`BorgDragon`	`because I guess his Head is buried in his Ass`
`02:12.13`	`BorgDragon`	`so I don't see the bomb lol`
`02:13.23`	`BorgDragon`	`even 10hdr doesn't make it glow or nothing`
`02:14.28`	`BorgDragon`	`oh wow now THAT is a bug`
`02:14.36`	`BorgDragon`	`I shot my sticky bomb`
`02:14.40`	`BorgDragon`	`moved the unit it was going to hit...`
`02:14.43`	`BorgDragon`	`it missed.`
`02:14.55`	`BorgDragon`	`then kept going... hit the edge of the map, flew to the corner... remains there`
`02:15.02`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`02:17.24`	`currydevil`	`nice`
`02:17.27`	`currydevil`	`sticky corner bomb eh`
`02:18.43`	`BorgDragon`	`yea`
`02:18.52`	`BorgDragon`	`adding ActorOrphan -> Destroy`
`02:18.54`	`BorgDragon`	`did not fix it`
`02:18.55`	`BorgDragon`	`however`
`02:19.00`	`BorgDragon`	`now I cannot sticky bomb a thor`
`02:19.09`	`BorgDragon`	`but i can sticky evyerthing else now`
`02:20.30`	`BorgDragon`	`ahwell`
`02:20.35`	`BorgDragon`	`that was some good progress today`
`02:20.39`	`BorgDragon`	`i gotta get ready for work now :\`
`02:20.43`	`BorgDragon`	`i'll finish this in the morning`
`02:21.24`	`BorgDragon`	`latar ppl`
`02:31.25`	`RoarMan`	`Damn`
`02:31.31`	`RoarMan`	`BorgDragons logs are so interesting`
`02:31.32`	`RoarMan`	`Lol`
`02:31.45`	`RoarMan`	`Anyone here?`
`02:31.46`	`RoarMan`	`:O`
`02:33.44`	`nolliepoper`	`Taking a break from my gay map. So whatsup RoarMan?`
`02:33.53`	`RoarMan`	`Not much just chilling :D`
`02:34.03`	`nolliepoper`	`u always come here to chat.`
`02:34.05`	`RoarMan`	`Im having map troubles of my own, one of my items won't pick up D:`
`02:34.09`	`RoarMan`	`Yes sometimes`
`02:34.13`	`RoarMan`	`I missed Ashamed :(`
`02:34.18`	`nolliepoper`	`you good with items?`
`02:34.38`	`RoarMan`	`No lol`
`02:34.42`	`RoarMan`	`My first dabble in them`
`02:34.43`	`nolliepoper`	`I was think about adding some just because it would be like extra command card slots amiright?`
`02:34.44`	`RoarMan`	`So confused rofl`
`02:34.59`	`RoarMan`	`In a sense yea you could make them like extra command slots`
`02:35.04`	`RoarMan`	`That would totally work actually`
`02:35.11`	`nolliepoper`	`yeah someday I will try that out.`
`02:35.40`	`nolliepoper`	`how many item slots can you make?`
`02:35.57`	`RoarMan`	`Uh`
`02:35.58`	`RoarMan`	`Not sure`
`02:36.03`	`RoarMan`	`It can go up to 24 I know`
`02:36.09`	`nolliepoper`	`and they don't work off triggers?`
`02:36.59`	`RoarMan`	`They do I think`
`02:37.06`	`RoarMan`	`Pretty sure you can have units cast them via trigger`
`02:37.14`	`RoarMan`	`Have never tried anything with items up until now though`
`02:37.21`	`nolliepoper`	`that is pretty cool then its all data`
`02:37.26`	`RoarMan`	`Yea`
`02:37.34`	`RoarMan`	`Well data + those triggers :P`
`02:37.50`	`RoarMan`	`Errm I mean items themselves are purely data yea`
`02:38.01`	`nolliepoper`	`I meant can you cast them with hotkeys without using triggers?`
`02:38.08`	`RoarMan`	`Yea`
`02:38.16`	`nolliepoper`	`nice`
`02:38.33`	`currydevil`	`you know you can set multiple abilities on one command card slot, and show them when you have certain behaviors on your unit ? ;)`
`02:38.54`	`nolliepoper`	`yes I found that out today.`
`02:39.02`	`currydevil`	`ie: pick up an energy wand, and you can cast energy bolt`
`02:39.04`	`nolliepoper`	`But you can only use the hotkey of the ones showing.`
`02:39.17`	`currydevil`	`mhm`
`02:39.44`	`currydevil`	`well, i suppose there is still a limit to the number of abilities.. I think it's 30?`
`02:39.47`	`currydevil`	`per unit`
`02:39.48`	`nolliepoper`	`Right now my map has a getto half data half trigger spell casting system its funny.`
`02:39.49`	`currydevil`	`or something`
`02:40.37`	`currydevil`	`Anyways, I need some confirmation.... spawning nydus worms for player 15 hostile = bad? or maybe I just have a buggy nydus worm?`
`02:40.51`	`nolliepoper`	`Think I should take a quick video and ask for suggestions?`
`02:41.15`	`RoarMan`	`Interesting`
`02:41.17`	`currydevil`	`if the units don't immediately go into combat when they are unoloaded... they hang in the air in a frozen animation until they are attacked or do an idle animation`
`02:41.21`	`RoarMan`	`Now my item doesn't show up at all`
`02:41.30`	`currydevil`	`what are you trying to do?`
`02:41.32`	`currydevil`	`roarman`
`02:41.42`	`RoarMan`	`Well basically`
`02:41.45`	`RoarMan`	`I'm trying to pick up an item`
`02:41.45`	`RoarMan`	`ROFL`
`02:41.49`	`currydevil`	`ok`
`02:41.56`	`RoarMan`	`But I don't know whatI'm doing wrong`
`02:41.59`	`currydevil`	`what kind of item? did you make a custom item, or is it a powerup?`
`02:42.05`	`RoarMan`	`Custom item`
`02:42.07`	`currydevil`	`ok`
`02:42.19`	`currydevil`	`and you made everything for it? unit, actor, item, button?`
`02:42.36`	`currydevil`	`to see it, you need the unit and actor`
`02:42.55`	`RoarMan`	`Yea I know`
`02:43.01`	`RoarMan`	`For some reason the actor is invisible right now`
`02:43.17`	`currydevil`	`what model are you using?`
`02:43.25`	`RoarMan`	`Carry Gas`
`02:43.37`	`RoarMan`	`I changed the base of my actor from Bag to GenericMOdel`
`02:43.40`	`RoarMan`	`And it stopped showing up`
`02:43.52`	`currydevil`	`the actor should be "genericunitbase"`
`02:43.59`	`RoarMan`	`Okey I'll set that up right now`
`02:44.45`	`RoarMan`	`Like i can see the item in-editor`
`02:44.48`	`RoarMan`	`But no in-game`
`02:44.59`	`currydevil`	`hmm`
`02:45.09`	`RoarMan`	`Im changing it to genericunit base`
`02:45.10`	`RoarMan`	`Let me check`
`02:45.12`	`currydevil`	`ok`
`02:47.01`	`MeSoHorner\|WB`	`need people to help me test a map! contact MeSoHorner.921`
`02:47.36`	`RoarMan`	`derpppp wtf`
`02:47.48`	`RoarMan`	`After changing the model base`
`02:47.52`	`RoarMan`	`It's gone to shit the unit`
`02:48.10`	`RoarMan`	`Ah Sc2 editor, embrace me with your shenanigans`
`02:52.12`	`*** join/#sc2mapster BorgDragon (~BorgDrago@24.138.168.211)`
`02:53.29`	`RoarMan`	`Hey BorgDragon`
`02:53.40`	`RoarMan`	`Know any reason why a unit would show up in editor but not in-game?`
`02:53.56`	`Mephs`	`doesn't have an actor`
`02:53.58`	`BorgDragon`	`actor's improperly linked`
`02:54.00`	`RoarMan`	`And borg I love your map editing selfcommentary XD`
`02:54.07`	`BorgDragon`	`lol Roar, thx!`
`02:54.12`	`Mephs`	`set the actor model not the editor model`
`02:54.15`	`RoarMan`	`It's actually interesting to read lol`
`02:54.21`	`RoarMan`	`Yep actor model is set`
`02:54.21`	`Mephs`	`you can have a unit use a different model in the editor than in game`
`02:54.22`	`BorgDragon`	`i figure my problem with my sticky bomb`
`02:54.27`	`Mephs`	`for things you want to be invisible for any reason`
`02:54.36`	`BorgDragon`	`is that the mover`
`02:54.38`	`BorgDragon`	`doesn't home in`
`02:54.53`	`BorgDragon`	`and since it does an impact model addition`
`02:55.00`	`BorgDragon`	`it might bug out and just continue on forever lol`
`02:55.02`	`Tordy`	`thanks for the tips`
`02:55.33`	`BorgDragon`	`do you get a sphere in game, or nothing?`
`02:58.47`	`currydevil`	`guess he get's nothing?`
`02:58.53`	`currydevil`	`he said it was invisible earlier`
`02:59.06`	`currydevil`	`but he's gone now >.>`
`02:59.11`	`currydevil`	`Anyways`
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`02:59.28`	`currydevil`	`anyone have expereince with buggy nydus worms spawned for player 15?`
`02:59.33`	`currydevil`	`hostile player that is.`
`03:00.21`	`BorgDragon`	`nopers`
`03:00.25`	`BorgDragon`	`but buggy in which way?`
`03:01.20`	`currydevil`	`i'll show you`
`03:01.24`	`currydevil`	`uploading image now`
`03:01.26`	`BorgDragon`	`k k`
`03:01.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMbk6apcO0M&feature=relatedah so fabulous`
`03:01.58`	`currydevil`	`http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8454/buggyworm.png they stay like that until attacked... or they do an idle animation, and then return to that stage`
`03:02.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMbk6apcO0M&feature=related`
`03:02.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`there that link`
`03:02.38`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`03:02.39`	`BorgDragon`	`odd`
`03:02.57`	`currydevil`	`mhm`
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`03:03.17`	`currydevil`	`I suppose I could tell them to attack to a random point in the region they spawned in.`
`03:03.18`	`currydevil`	`but...`
`03:03.23`	`currydevil`	`it's annoying xD`
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`03:04.01`	`BorgDragon`	`hmmm`
`03:06.23`	`Rodrigo`	`I just broke the cleverbot`
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`03:08.47`	`RoarMan`	`Where Helral`
`03:08.53`	`RodOfNOD`	`sleeping`
`03:08.56`	`RoarMan`	`I needs him :(`
`03:08.58`	`RoarMan`	`HI RODOFNOD!`
`03:09.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`he helped me earlier`
`03:09.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`and he grew tired`
`03:09.16`	`RodOfNOD`	`so now u have me to deal with hehe`
`03:09.35`	`RoarMan`	`D:`
`03:09.37`	`BorgDragon`	`~seen Helral`
`03:09.39`	`purl`	`helral <Helral@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3h 58m 49s ago, saying: 'you don't want to highlight the unit nor have him selectable?'.`
`03:09.53`	`BorgDragon`	`:P`
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`03:10.01`	`RoarMan`	`~seen ashamed`
`03:10.01`	`purl`	`ashamed <43adf1dc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.173.241.220> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 3h 5m 53s ago, saying: 'no one knows how to change the firebat attack color?'.`
`03:10.08`	`RoarMan`	`Hahhaa`
`03:10.10`	`RoarMan`	`I love ashamed`
`03:10.17`	`BorgDragon`	`hmm, is there a way, to make a sound OTHER than unit sounds`
`03:10.23`	`BorgDragon`	`playable through the actor events + ?`
`03:10.26`	`RoarMan`	`What do you mean by that?`
`03:10.29`	`RoarMan`	`Hmm`
`03:10.35`	`BorgDragon`	`I want a specific explosion sound to play`
`03:10.42`	`BorgDragon`	`when my attached grenade explodes`
`03:10.45`	`RoarMan`	`Attach it to the effect`
`03:11.01`	`BorgDragon`	`mmmmm`
`03:11.07`	`RoarMan`	`Jaja`
`03:11.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`u should be able to plkayanysound u want`
`03:11.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`just add it into the sound data`
`03:12.04`	`BorgDragon`	`ill hceck the sound again, but I dndn't see a field to modify when it plays... sounds are usually linked to actions and shit?`
`03:12.52`	`RoarMan`	`You can create actors`
`03:12.57`	`BorgDragon`	`yea`
`03:13.00`	`BorgDragon`	`oh, sound actor?`
`03:13.01`	`RoarMan`	`Yea`
`03:13.16`	`BorgDragon`	`aaah ok`
`03:13.20`	`BorgDragon`	`thx`
`03:13.28`	`RoarMan`	`Np dog np`
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`03:17.15`	`BorgDragon`	`perfect, thx ;)`
`03:19.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`what i get nocredit?`
`03:19.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`:P`
`03:19.37`	`BorgDragon`	`:P`
`03:19.43`	`BorgDragon`	`it was a general thx!`
`03:19.46`	`BorgDragon`	`but thx Rod ;)`
`03:19.59`	`BorgDragon`	`oh, and I'll take the thx I gave to Roar, and give it all to you :P`
`03:20.48`	`RoarMan`	`WHAT`
`03:20.50`	`RoarMan`	`THATS NOT ALLOWED`
`03:20.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`no no i dont want all the creidt`
`03:20.54`	`BorgDragon`	`A sound lasts only 3 seconds. How do I make it last 5?`
`03:20.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`credit`
`03:20.57`	`RoarMan`	`FUCK YOU ROD FUCK YOU`
`03:21.00`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`03:21.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol RoarMan`
`03:21.01`	`RoarMan`	`Lol`
`03:21.02`	`RoarMan`	`:D`
`03:21.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`wht do u mean borg?`
`03:21.06`	`BorgDragon`	`~8ball will there be a fight!?`
`03:21.07`	`purl`	`Please ask again.`
`03:21.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`it last 3 secs how u gonna make it last 5?`
`03:21.20`	`BorgDragon`	`can't you like...`
`03:21.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`u want to slow it down?`
`03:21.25`	`BorgDragon`	`distort or something ?`
`03:21.28`	`BorgDragon`	`ya`
`03:21.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`i think u can`
`03:21.33`	`BorgDragon`	`my sticky lasts 5 then blows up`
`03:21.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`not sure though should be in the data part`
`03:21.42`	`BorgDragon`	`the D8 AttackLaunch impact lasts 3`
`03:21.47`	`BorgDragon`	`and it does the countdown sound`
`03:21.55`	`BorgDragon`	`but stops... then 2 seconds later BOOM`
`03:21.57`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`03:22.52`	`BorgDragon`	`I think after I get this last sound to work... I'm done my sticky bomb.`
`03:23.52`	`BorgDragon`	`wtf is Pitch (Semitones) ?`
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`03:24.21`	`nolliepoper`	`Hey RoarMan you here?`
`03:24.46`	`BorgDragon`	`he's floating around`
`03:24.57`	`BorgDragon`	`anyways, I gotta go to work, will finish my bomb tomorrow`
`03:26.10`	`RoarMan`	`Yea`
`03:26.11`	`RoarMan`	`I am here`
`03:26.21`	`nolliepoper`	`come have some luls on my map`
`03:26.23`	`nolliepoper`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVy06cWkaco`
`03:26.29`	`nolliepoper`	`so getto`
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`03:33.30`	`nolliepoper`	`posible to change the size of boss bars?`
`03:38.32`	`RoarMan`	`Gah`
`03:38.35`	`RoarMan`	`This is driving me crazeh`
`03:38.44`	`nolliepoper`	`what is?`
`03:39.02`	`RoarMan`	`Helral's dialog system and this Sc2's inventory :/`
`03:39.38`	`Twiner`	`can you make custom score displays?`
`03:39.58`	`Twiner`	`as in the stats display you see after you leave every game`
`03:40.12`	`RoarMan`	`Yes Twiner`
`03:40.28`	`RoarMan`	`You just have to modify the Score stat within each unit`
`03:41.09`	`Twiner`	`I don't mean custom scores`
`03:41.30`	`RoarMan`	`Uh`
`03:41.32`	`RoarMan`	`Then what do you mean`
`03:41.40`	`currydevil`	`there, telling the zerg to attack after bing unloaded from nydus fixes the bugginess`
`03:41.42`	`Twiner`	`the display, can you add custom elements?`
`03:41.48`	`Twiner`	`like your own listing of stats`
`03:41.53`	`RoarMan`	`Not sure`
`03:41.55`	`currydevil`	`for a unit?`
`03:41.58`	`currydevil`	`like attributes?`
`03:42.05`	`RoarMan`	`No he means in the after game thing`
`03:42.09`	`currydevil`	`oh`
`03:42.12`	`currydevil`	`no idea`
`03:42.14`	`RoarMan`	`Well it must be possible becaue they do it wit the BO hiders`
`03:42.29`	`RoarMan`	`But they could just be bugging the whole thing out which might not be what yo uwant`
`03:44.01`	`currydevil`	`so, changing lighting sucks`
`03:44.02`	`currydevil`	`lol`
`03:54.05`	`RoarMan`	`Wierd`
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`04:22.28`	`Tordy_`	`currydevil:`
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`04:39.24`	`Haetmachene`	`si`
`04:39.27`	`Haetmachene`	`so*`
`04:39.43`	`Haetmachene`	`who is good with attaching objects to units?`
`04:41.56`	`Lilianna`	`Model Attachments are`
`04:42.09`	`Lilianna`	`Model Additions*`
`04:44.10`	`RodOfNOD`	`good is relative term ask ur ?`
`04:44.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`Lilianna have u found a way to suck the available animations from a particular model via trigger?`
`04:45.04`	`Lilianna`	`hmmm?`
`04:45.17`	`Lilianna`	`oh like figure out what animations you can use via trigger?`
`04:45.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes`
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`04:45.44`	`Lilianna`	`No clue`
`04:45.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`i tried looking at theeventdata but it wasnt really what i needed`
`04:45.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`k`
`04:45.47`	`Cornelius`	`hello guys, do any of u know how i can make 2 players share 1 base? like 1 hatchery?`
`04:45.59`	`Lilianna`	`But Im sure you can send an actor message to play an animation`
`04:46.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`well i assume u mean only one base Cornelius`
`04:46.08`	`Lilianna`	`and if it doesnt support that animation it goes tot he void and does nothing`
`04:46.16`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes but i want a list :P`
`04:46.37`	`Cornelius`	`well i want to make like a 2v2 or 3v3 map. but i want each team to only have 1 base`
`04:46.37`	`Lilianna`	`Hehe`
`04:46.39`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Capturedd.JPG`
`04:46.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`see that stand animation drop down?`
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`04:46.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`thats what i wanttopopulate`
`04:46.54`	`Lilianna`	`Ah yes, I see`
`04:46.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`i figured out death and sounds`
`04:47.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`but not the regular ones :P`
`04:47.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`u could do a macro micro map Cornelius`
`04:47.32`	`Cornelius`	`wut.`
`04:47.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`where each player can control only buildings vs units`
`04:47.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`ie u can make shit`
`04:47.42`	`RodOfNOD`	`i can fight`
`04:48.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`but im not aware of sharing only one building`
`04:48.08`	`Cornelius`	`hrmm`
`04:48.12`	`Cornelius`	`it seems like such a simple task`
`04:55.45`	`Haetmachene`	`ok`
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`05:05.39`	`Haetmachene`	`so does anyone know how to attatch a model to another model? It would act similar to the marine shield upgrade or when an scv is harvesting resources. This is goung to be sone with an orc unit and shoulder art models and a helmet`
`05:05.50`	`Haetmachene`	`does anyone know how to approach this?`
`05:06.57`	`Haetmachene`	`im on the mapster vent server if anyone has some input`
`05:08.45`	`currydevil`	`site operations... and no I don't know how to do those just yet =\|`
`05:13.08`	`Mephs`	`a site operation is like a big velcro wall.`
`05:13.19`	`Mephs`	`imagine your unit is wearing a velcro suit. and the effect you want is made of velcro`
`05:13.24`	`Mephs`	`and you throw the effect at them`
`05:13.28`	`Mephs`	`and it sticks to them!`
`05:16.00`	`Mephs`	`...`
`05:20.57`	`nolliepoper`	`hi`
`05:21.09`	`Tordy_`	`hi nolliepooper`
`05:21.41`	`Haetmachene`	`so i guess a good comparison would be the custom wc3 map pimp my peon`
`05:21.44`	`nolliepoper`	`do u want to laugh?`
`05:21.58`	`Haetmachene`	`of what i want to accomplish`
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`05:25.13`	`Haetmachene`	`so what was it called again?`
`05:25.57`	`Mephs`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txQQzZ49zZA`
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`05:26.44`	`Haetmachene`	`epic....`
`05:26.56`	`Mephs`	`always.`
`05:27.09`	`Haetmachene`	`but it was a location whatever?>`
`05:27.34`	`grim001`	`who wants to discuss a theoretical C#-type language for SC2`
`05:28.06`	`Haetmachene`	`i would but i never got past c++`
`05:28.12`	`Haetmachene`	`and i got minimal c experience`
`05:28.18`	`Haetmachene`	`and that was almost ages ago`
`05:28.36`	`grim001`	`you don't really "get past" a language`
`05:31.06`	`Haetmachene`	`lol`
`05:31.34`	`Haetmachene`	`but still its been ages`
`05:31.50`	`Haetmachene`	`and im trying to solve a little conundrum`
`05:32.50`	`Mephs`	`how do you make a C# type language for a language that is by and large shit script`
`05:33.00`	`Mephs`	`better yet. why`
`05:33.09`	`Mephs`	`especially when it doesn't support OOP`
`05:33.43`	`Skizot`	`http://i.imgur.com/JwUW6.jpg`
`05:34.49`	`grim001`	`mephs, you may not understand how, but it's perfectly possible to compile a language very close to C# into galaxy code`
`05:35.07`	`Mephs`	`its possible`
`05:35.10`	`Mephs`	`i didn't say that`
`05:35.28`	`Mephs`	`the question is why use an OOP language to create things that ARENT object oriented`
`05:35.30`	`Mephs`	`in the least`
`05:35.58`	`Mephs`	`you can't even pass basic structs as a parameter`
`05:36.01`	`Mephs`	`it just doesn't sound logical`
`05:36.10`	MindWorX`	`grim, you shouldn't really waste time on Mephs`
`05:36.24`	`Haetmachene`	`but someone had an answer for me, but i had to restart my browser. what was it called when you attach an art model to a unit?`
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`05:37.19`	`Mephs`	`yea i dont waste my time with people who are usually wrong either.`
`05:37.37`	`Mephs`	`i do enough time wasting of that caliber at work thx`
`05:37.38`	`grim001`	`mephs, I don't really think you understand the concept`
`05:37.46`	`Mephs`	`well what is it you want to accomplish exactly?`
`05:37.55`	`Haetmachene`	`I am trying to attach a shoulder model from wow to a character model from wow`
`05:38.05`	`Mephs`	`you want to write galaxy in something more akin to java, or C# right`
`05:38.46`	`Haetmachene`	`but i dont think ppl really care about this/ have no idea what im talking about`
`05:39.09`	`grim001`	`mephs, it's possible to make it work with some very creative compiling`
`05:39.26`	`Mephs`	`okay great i know its possible`
`05:39.28`	`grim001`	`I guess you never were into wc3 modding`
`05:39.38`	`Mephs`	`the question is: why`
`05:39.54`	`grim001`	`because galaxy is so bad it's almost unusable`
`05:40.02`	`Mephs`	`how is it unusable`
`05:40.39`	`grim001`	`everything about it is bad`
`05:40.43`	`Mephs`	`give me examples`
`05:40.48`	`grim001`	`if you know anything about programming languages, that much is obvious`
`05:40.52`	`Mephs`	`yeah i know it sucks`
`05:40.54`	`Mephs`	`but give me examples`
`05:41.05`	`Mephs`	`i already gave you one.`
`05:41.25`	`grim001`	`take for example all of it`
`05:41.41`	`Mephs`	`ok great, that doesn't explain why it isn't usable`
`05:41.45`	`Mephs`	`because i am using it at the moment.`
`05:42.03`	`Mephs`	`and its making things happen?`
`05:42.26`	`grim001`	`have you ever used a real programming language?`
`05:43.49`	`Mephs`	`no never grim. ever.`
`05:44.21`	`Mephs`	`just c++ c# java delphi basic (an assortment of web languages here)`
`05:44.28`	`Mephs`	`never a real programming language tho sry`
`05:46.04`	`jorgenpt`	`Damn you're cool.`
`05:46.24`	`Mephs`	`i know right`
`05:47.20`	`Haetmachene`	`ill be waiting for this hissy fit to end before i ask again`
`05:47.37`	`jorgenpt`	`grim001: Making a language like C# on top of GalaxyScript sounds like something that'll add a lot of overhead and complexity to an already pretty slow language.`
`05:48.05`	`Mephs`	`i should also add that it wont make galaxy script do things that galaxy script doesn't like to do already`
`05:48.17`	`grim001`	`mephs, you're braindead if you think galaxy is well suited for developing anything more than tiny amateur maps`
`05:48.42`	`Mephs`	`thats because galaxy != a game engine`
`05:48.46`	`Mephs`	`its a SCRIPTING LANGUAGE`
`05:48.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`if done properly there would be no overhead`
`05:48.55`	`grim001`	`that's kind of like saying that C# won't make your computer do anything that machine code doesn't like to do`
`05:49.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`using another language as a front end`
`05:49.11`	`Mephs`	`c# isn't a SCRIPTING LANGUAGE`
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`05:49.17`	`Mephs`	`i mean it can be used as one, but it isn't.`
`05:49.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`in the end it would just convert it into galaxy`
`05:49.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`its been done for wc3 so`
`05:49.31`	`grim001`	`I don't think you really have any clue what you're talking about mephs`
`05:49.39`	`Haetmachene`	`so`
`05:49.40`	`Mephs`	`you still can't give me an example`
`05:49.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`did u know that ghost academys have a flying animation its pretty killer`
`05:49.55`	`Mephs`	`what would writing galaxy in a c# orientation do to make galaxy do things that it can't already do?`
`05:50.10`	`Mephs`	`is my point`
`05:50.13`	`Haetmachene`	`about attaching things to other things`
`05:50.15`	`Mephs`	`its not the fact that galaxy sucks`
`05:50.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`the same stuff that things like presets do for gui`
`05:50.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`they make it easier`
`05:50.26`	`Haetmachene`	`anyone wanna tackle this?`
`05:50.31`	`Mephs`	`or the fact that its not intuitive or that its horribly obfuscated code from the GUI standpoint`
`05:50.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`but in the end if u dont know c#`
`05:50.42`	`RodOfNOD`	`not sure it would be much better`
`05:50.45`	`Mephs`	`its the fact that what it can't do now, it can't do just because you give it an easier format to write in`
`05:51.01`	`Mephs`	`the GUI makes it easy enough really`
`05:51.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`sc2 gui KILLS wc3 gui`
`05:51.15`	`Haetmachene`	`or am I gonna hafta give up hope finding answers and let this hissy fit continue>?`
`05:51.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`05:51.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`you just might`
`05:51.27`	`Mephs`	`basically.`
`05:51.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`there are LOTS of attachment tutorials onthe website`
`05:51.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`i recommend prozaics`
`05:51.55`	`grim001`	`mephs, go read the vjass manual on wc3c.net`
`05:51.56`	`Mephs`	`if you want more freedom and game design power play with the source engine`
`05:52.04`	`Haetmachene`	`you got a link for me?`
`05:52.08`	`Mephs`	`grim: THIS ISNT WC3`
`05:52.08`	`grim001`	`then you might learn the first thing about what you're trying to talk about`
`05:52.15`	`RodOfNOD`	`search for prozaicmuse`
`05:52.23`	`Haetmachene`	`if it helps, im using wow models`
`05:52.30`	`grim001`	`they are 98% similar`
`05:52.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`wow = gag`
`05:52.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`:P`
`05:52.37`	`Mephs`	`ok look`
`05:52.38`	`Haetmachene`	`and i need to get some armor models to attach to certain points on an orc model`
`05:52.39`	`Mephs`	`i'll put it simply`
`05:52.45`	`Mephs`	`it sounds to me`
`05:52.48`	`Mephs`	`like you want to speak french`
`05:52.51`	`Mephs`	`but you want to speak french your way`
`05:52.52`	`Mephs`	`thats great`
`05:52.54`	`Mephs`	`you can speak french your way`
`05:52.58`	`Mephs`	`but french people wont understand you`
`05:53.01`	`Mephs`	`and you're not going to change the language`
`05:53.02`	`Mephs`	`got it?`
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`05:53.17`	`Haetmachene`	`Rod you have played WC3 custom maps right?`
`05:53.19`	`grim001`	`mephs, if you're too dumb to understand, that's your issue`
`05:53.32`	`Mephs`	`cool show me results instead of theory`
`05:53.34`	`grim001`	`go code in binary`
`05:53.48`	`Mephs`	`sc2 maps`
`05:54.05`	`Mephs`	`only read galaxy, they aren't going to magically open up to your magic language and suddenly let you make games that dont suck`
`05:54.26`	`Mephs`	`sc2 editor is to edit SC2 MAPS`
`05:54.32`	`Mephs`	`within the buonds of the engine's capability`
`05:54.35`	`Mephs`	`its not a game engine`
`05:54.41`	`grim001`	`so you aren't going to go read the document that would let you stop being ignorant?`
`05:54.56`	`Mephs`	`give me a url or i dont give a shit, because you're wrong.`
`05:55.01`	`Mephs`	`god i love telling people they're wrong.`
`05:55.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`sory Haetmachene i can help u tomorrow`
`05:55.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`but i have some shit imtrying to get done before zzzz`
`05:55.26`	`Mephs`	`i wish i got paid more just for how many times i do that a day.`
`05:55.28`	`Haetmachene`	`ok i understand`
`05:55.45`	`Haetmachene`	`you can most likely find me on the mapster vent server`
`05:55.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`i missed the beginning of ur discussion mephs and grim001 what is the premise?`
`05:55.56`	`Mephs`	`rod: not missing much.`
`05:56.06`	`Mephs`	`summary: i want to write galaxy in C# format. it will make my game better.`
`05:56.10`	`Mephs`	`(his argument)`
`05:56.28`	`Haetmachene`	`pretty much you missed two guys slapping eachother's cocks`
`05:56.40`	`Haetmachene`	`if the analogy is correct`
`05:56.51`	`Haetmachene`	`but the problem is who's epeen is larger?`
`05:58.30`	`grim001`	`mephs here's your link`
`05:58.38`	`grim001`	`http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vjass+manual`
`05:58.54`	`Mephs`	`doesn't take me to what i want to look at. find me a url`
`05:59.05`	`Mephs`	`directly to the vjass manual`
`05:59.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`well unless ur gonna argue that by the nature of knowing c# better u can therefore write better code im afraid no uwont make a better map with c# as a front end`
`05:59.39`	`Mephs`	`basically. ^`
`05:59.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`if however ur goal is to make it easier to write code and therefore a map i would argue a front end would help`
`06:00.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`but it would have to have ALOT of gui tieins cuz the new gui has some very hard things to give up`
`06:00.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`things like presets`
`06:00.21`	`grim001`	`there's a reason that games aren't developed in FORTRAN`
`06:00.23`	`Mephs`	`you can make a better front end, but the problem is that c# is heavily oriented around object-oriented code. galaxy script doesn't support object-oriented code. it can't even pass structs as a parameter.`
`06:00.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`or path names automagically being there`
`06:00.36`	`Mephs`	`grim: theres a DIFFERENCE between a scripting language, and a PROGRAMMING language`
`06:00.49`	`Mephs`	`galaxy script is converted into the engine's code, kind of like lua`
`06:00.52`	`grim001`	`mephs, you can make it work, like I've said several times.`
`06:00.55`	`Mephs`	`but its during runtime`
`06:01.07`	`Mephs`	`a. you can expand on programming languages`
`06:01.11`	`Mephs`	`b. you can't expand on scripting languages`
`06:01.17`	`Mephs`	`they give you the tools to work with you can't invent new tools`
`06:01.18`	`Mephs`	`is the point`
`06:01.26`	`grim001`	`jass has absolutely no object oriented capabilities, but vjass has lots of OOP capabilities.`
`06:01.26`	`grim001`	`read the fucking document you moron.`
`06:01.39`	`Mephs`	`it still wont make galaxy do things it CANT DO`
`06:01.46`	`Mephs`	`you fucking tit`
`06:01.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`06:01.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok ok enough cock slapping`
`06:02.16`	`grim001`	`galaxy can do everything that C# can do given enough manipulation by the compiler.`
`06:02.22`	`Mephs`	`if i got paid for every script kiddie that had big ideas about how these things worked i'd be fucking donald trump`
`06:02.24`	`grim001`	`including all object oriented nonsense.`
`06:02.27`	`Mephs`	`GALAXY ISNT COMPILED CODE`
`06:02.35`	`Mephs`	`you are fucking retarded. argument over.`
`06:02.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/auto.JPG`
`06:02.48`	`RodOfNOD`	`just tell me how good i am`
`06:02.51`	`grim001`	`uh, I'm talking about the compiler I'm going to write.`
`06:02.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`thats all i really want ot hear`
`06:03.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`grim please write it`
`06:03.04`	`grim001`	`which automatically manipulates the script when you save the map.`
`06:03.09`	`Mephs`	`to do what`
`06:03.16`	`Mephs`	`it has to convert it into galaxy script`
`06:03.26`	`grim001`	`to compile C#-ish code into galaxy code.`
`06:03.31`	`Mephs`	`yes!`
`06:03.32`	`Mephs`	`you can do that`
`06:03.33`	`Mephs`	`great`
`06:03.37`	`grim001`	`with ALL the features of C# working just fine.`
`06:03.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`whynot use objective c :P`
`06:03.52`	`Mephs`	`so i can use sockets`
`06:03.55`	`Mephs`	`on an sc2 map`
`06:03.57`	`grim001`	`the fact that you don't understand how that's possible is your issue.`
`06:04.12`	`Mephs`	`and upload map results to a web server if i wanted to`
`06:04.14`	`Mephs`	`huzzah!`
`06:04.17`	`grim001`	`sockets aren't a language feature, kiddo`
`06:04.21`	`Mephs`	`oh shoot.`
`06:04.23`	`Mephs`	`poo.`
`06:04.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`noonesaid my pretty pic was glory`
`06:04.32`	`Mephs`	`i thought you said you could make galaxy do anything that's c# supported`
`06:04.34`	`Mephs`	`i guess you were wrong.`
`06:04.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`06:04.39`	`Mephs`	`rod: yes we know it looks great stfu`
`06:04.43`	`grim001`	`are you 12?`
`06:04.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`06:04.53`	`RodOfNOD`	`grim hasnt seen it`
`06:04.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`i figured he would call my name in glory`
`06:05.07`	`grim001`	`do you know the difference between the language itself and code that runs in it? I guess not.`
`06:05.23`	`Mephs`	`that doesn't even make sense`
`06:06.22`	`Mephs`	`i get that you want to make galaxy easier to write for people who actually do write code`
`06:06.31`	`Mephs`	`thats fine`
`06:06.46`	`Mephs`	`but you're claiming that anything youc an do in C# you can compile to galaxy`
`06:06.58`	`Mephs`	`so i said, so I can import an external .NET library for example`
`06:07.01`	`Mephs`	`and uses sockets`
`06:07.22`	`Mephs`	`we KNOW you can't do that in galaxy, but yet you said you're going to make galaxy do things that it can't do, in short`
`06:07.47`	`grim001`	`mephs, I linked you a document containing everything you need to know`
`06:07.55`	`Mephs`	`no you linked me a site that googled it for me`
`06:08.05`	`grim001`	`you're having more fun arguing from an ignorant pov than educating yourself`
`06:08.05`	`grim001`	`yeah, and it's the first result`
`06:08.06`	`grim001`	`so click on it`
`06:08.06`	`grim001`	`then read it`
`06:08.12`	`Mephs`	`too much work, give me the url`
`06:08.18`	`Mephs`	`and quit being a dumbass`
`06:08.36`	`grim001`	`that's how much thought you're putting into thinking through your argument`
`06:08.38`	`Mephs`	`i ask you for examples of how your code will improve galaxy`
`06:08.50`	`Mephs`	`and you insult my intelligence why should i give you any common respect?`
`06:08.51`	`grim001`	`and I gave you a huge document of them`
`06:08.52`	`grim001`	`so go read it`
`06:08.55`	`grim001`	`you are stupid.`
`06:09.15`	`grim001`	`on top of being ignorant and immature.`
`06:09.21`	`grim001`	`and wrong.`
`06:09.24`	`Mephs`	`to you. to me, you're another script kiddie who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground`
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`06:09.39`	`Mephs`	`and you're professing things that don't exist, aren't possible, and make no sense`
`06:10.10`	`grim001`	`yeah, they don't make sense to you, because you're stupid.`
`06:10.14`	`Mephs`	`i asked, why go through the trouble of writing something that will by and large do the same thing that the GUI does`
`06:10.25`	`Mephs`	`and you ahve yet to give me an answer that made sense`
`06:10.47`	`Mephs`	`but keep assuming i dont know what you're talking about`
`06:10.51`	`grim001`	`I gave you the document, you don't want to read it.`
`06:11.07`	`Mephs`	`you gave me a link to lmgtfy.com, which redirected me to google`
`06:11.07`	`grim001`	`goodnight, I have better things to do anyway.`
`06:11.12`	`Mephs`	`lol`
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`06:20.19`	`nolliepoper`	`what is good?`
`06:20.23`	`cintiq_`	`love`
`06:20.27`	`cintiq_`	`baby don't hurt me`
`06:20.29`	`cintiq_`	`don't hurt me`
`06:20.30`	`cintiq_`	`no more`
`06:20.36`	`nolliepoper`	`try`
`06:21.04`	`cintiq_`	`just a little bit moreeeee`
`06:21.11`	`cintiq_`	`gimmie just a little bit moreeeeeee`
`06:24.04`	`Deaod`	`http://www.wc3c.net/vexorian/jasshelpermanual.html`
`06:24.08`	`Deaod`	`Mephs, read it.`
`06:27.26`	`nolliepoper`	`what is that crap?`
`06:27.44`	`Deaod`	`oh, just one of the best mods for WC3.`
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`06:28.34`	`nolliepoper`	`ah no use here we all play sc2.`
`06:28.42`	`nolliepoper`	`thanks anyways tho.`
`06:28.56`	`Twiner`	`way to write off something pretty amazing`
`06:29.06`	`Deaod`	`see, you were not the intended audience`
`06:29.10`	`Twiner`	`I know people who have writen physics engines in Wc3`
`06:29.10`	`Deaod`	`so stfu.`
`06:29.21`	`Twiner`	`using vJass, and JassHElper`
`06:29.45`	`nolliepoper`	`dang u just came here to cuss me out Deaod?`
`06:29.59`	`Deaod`	`not exactly.`
`06:30.11`	`Deaod`	`theres a reason i only told Mephs to read it, not you.`
`06:30.18`	`nolliepoper`	`and call me an outkast of some sort of intended audience.`
`06:30.28`	`Deaod`	`you missed the whole argument between Mephs and grim`
`06:30.35`	`Deaod`	`so would you kindly go away=`
`06:30.37`	`Deaod`	`?`
`06:30.43`	`nolliepoper`	`PM him then you posted link and I just happen to click it, will you forgive me?`
`06:32.00`	`nolliepoper`	`maybe an intended audience would be in a wc3 irc. just a protip.`
`06:32.15`	`Deaod`	`oh, theyre all already familiar with it.`
`06:32.29`	`nolliepoper`	`looks boring bro.`
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`06:56.49`	`Haetmachene`	`anyone still here?`
`06:59.57`	`Mephs`	`Although this is not really OOP the syntax is powerful enough I hope, there is no inheritance and that's the reason I am not calling the objects classes but structs.`
`07:00.09`	`Mephs`	`cool its saying the exact thing that i said to grim whats your point`
`07:00.26`	`Mephs`	`of course not as assholish but essentially the same thing`
`07:01.18`	`Deaod`	`actually, there is inheritance.`
`07:02.05`	`Mephs`	`my point was: in the END it has to convert it to galaxy script`
`07:02.15`	`Mephs`	`his point was: i can make galaxy script do things that you can't do in the GUI`
`07:02.27`	`Deaod`	`which is true.`
`07:02.36`	`Mephs`	`how is that true`
`07:02.48`	`Deaod`	`because GUI sucks, has sucked and will forever suck.`
`07:02.48`	`Mephs`	`you can't make a scripting language do things it can't do`
`07:02.54`	`Mephs`	`is what i was saying`
`07:03.24`	`Deaod`	`perfect example: free global variable declaration in vJass`
`07:03.31`	`Deaod`	`libraries/scopes in vJass`
`07:03.40`	`Mephs`	`you can declare global variables in GUI.`
`07:03.49`	`Mephs`	`actually`
`07:03.51`	`Mephs`	`everything is a global variable`
`07:04.00`	`Mephs`	`technically`
`07:04.30`	`Deaod`	`declaring global variables in GUI sucks.`
`07:04.39`	`Deaod`	`no constants.`
`07:04.54`	`Mephs`	`there are oO`
`07:04.54`	`Deaod`	`useless shit like initailization gets added to the map.`
`07:04.57`	`currydevil`	`mephs didn't say galaxy/GUI sucks`
`07:05.06`	`Deaod`	`well, it does`
`07:05.10`	`currydevil`	`i mean`
`07:05.10`	`Mephs`	`it does.`
`07:05.15`	`currydevil`	`he didnt say it doesnt suck`
`07:05.26`	`currydevil`	`correction, sorry >.>`
`07:05.31`	`Mephs`	`i'm talking about peeves like not being able to pass structs as arguments`
`07:05.33`	`Deaod`	`well, GUI has less features than galaxy has`
`07:05.40`	`Mephs`	`you have to use a convuluted method to do that in GUI`
`07:05.53`	`currydevil`	`all he was saying is you can't make it fly if it doesn't have wings to begin with`
`07:06.01`	`Mephs`	`but it doesn't change the fact you can't pass a record variable as an argument`
`07:06.08`	`Mephs`	`because galaxy script doesn't declare objects`
`07:06.36`	`Mephs`	`grim says: oh well if i make you write it in C# galaxy will magically recognize structs (records) as arguments`
`07:06.38`	`Mephs`	`he didn't say that directly`
`07:06.42`	`Mephs`	`but that's what he's trying to say`
`07:06.53`	`Deaod`	`well, its true.`
`07:06.57`	`Mephs`	`its not.`
`07:07.02`	`Mephs`	`you can't make galaxy script do things that it CANT DO`
`07:07.08`	`Deaod`	`because he wont rely on structs in galaxys sense`
`07:07.15`	`Deaod`	`hes going to use data tables`
`07:07.22`	`Mephs`	`no, thats not what i was saying.`
`07:07.34`	`Mephs`	`you can automate the convolutedness.`
`07:07.35`	`Deaod`	`and then pass around references to entries in those data tables`
`07:07.40`	`Mephs`	`but you can't make galaxy do things that it can't do.`
`07:07.41`	`Mephs`	`period.`
`07:07.45`	`Mephs`	`yes.`
`07:07.50`	`Mephs`	`but GRIM said`
`07:07.56`	`Mephs`	`he can magically make galaxy do things that aren't supported.`
`07:07.57`	`Deaod`	`i hope you realize he knows that as well?`
`07:08.08`	`Mephs`	`he doesn't. apparently lol`
`07:08.15`	`Mephs`	`because he argued so fervently that he could.`
`07:08.46`	`Mephs`	`i wouldn't mind something to automate or emulate OOP, but it wont be OOP, and i dont really have a need for that much`
`07:09.02`	`Mephs`	`a lot of the GUI does things just fine, and i do most of my work in DE anyway`
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`07:43.35`	`Haetmachene`	`ok im still trying to find a good tutorial/some help with attaching a custom model to another custom model. I found this tutorial (http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/8926-data-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty/#posts) but I dont want it to be a turret.`
`07:44.27`	`Haetmachene`	`Anyone got any ideas?`
`07:44.52`	`Haetmachene`	`I know it has to do with Site Operation Attachments`
`07:45.10`	`Haetmachene`	`but from there i just get lost`
`07:45.19`	`currydevil`	`not I, sorry. I haven't ventured into that territory yet.`
`07:45.31`	`Haetmachene`	`its ok`
`07:45.39`	`LordAbyss`	`hello everyone`
`07:47.32`	`LordAbyss`	`site operations are evil`
`07:47.41`	`LordAbyss`	`search for prozaicmuze's tutorial on it`
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`07:49.19`	`Haetmachene`	`thats what im on`
`07:49.29`	`Haetmachene`	`is tutorial involves a turret`
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`07:49.58`	`Haetmachene`	`you are familiar with wow?`
`07:50.11`	`LordAbyss`	`wow as in world of warcraft?`
`07:50.15`	`Haetmachene`	`yes`
`07:50.16`	`LordAbyss`	`if so, yes`
`07:50.57`	`Haetmachene`	`ok, when wow character models get imported into the sc2 editor, the shoulder models (both of them) the helmet, and the character are all individual models`
`07:51.17`	`Haetmachene`	`i need to get the 2 shoulder pieces and the helm to attach to the correct points`
`07:51.42`	`LordAbyss`	`well you can look at the model viewer to find the attachments that move in the right direction`
`07:51.54`	`LordAbyss`	`otherwise the shoulders might just float in the air`
`07:52.06`	`Haetmachene`	`i know there the attachment points are`
`07:52.18`	`Haetmachene`	`i just need top figure out what i need to do to get the models to attach`
`07:52.53`	`LordAbyss`	`honestly, it has been a couple months since i messed with attachements`
`07:52.59`	`LordAbyss`	`let me get you a link to a contest we did`
`07:53.08`	`LordAbyss`	`has people's maps you might be able to look at`
`07:54.07`	`Haetmachene`	`i posted the map im fooling around wiht this stuff on on the mapster forum, i can link it to you if you want`
`07:54.11`	`Haetmachene`	`i just have to find it`
`07:54.43`	`LordAbyss`	`i can't look at it tonight, maybe another time`
`07:54.58`	`Haetmachene`	`ok`
`07:55.26`	`LordAbyss`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/4286-contest-creature/`
`07:55.27`	`LordAbyss`	`there`
`07:55.35`	`LordAbyss`	`has lots of maps with site operations and such`
`07:55.43`	`LordAbyss`	`the rhino map might be the best for you`
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`07:56.49`	`Maknyuzz`	`anyone here work with 3dmax?`
`07:57.34`	`Maknyuzz`	`how do you modify with tint color?`
`07:58.03`	`Maknyuzz`	`i.e. zealot only tinted on its blades. can you make it so zealot is tinted on the whole body?`
`07:58.14`	`Mephs`	`on the actor for the zealot`
`07:58.17`	`Mephs`	`under event`
`07:58.25`	`Mephs`	`er, do you want it to be a permanent tint or just temporary?`
`07:59.28`	`Maknyuzz`	`temporary is fine`
`07:59.38`	`Maknyuzz`	`permanent is better`
`07:59.49`	`Mephs`	`permanent`
`07:59.53`	`Mephs`	`under the actor`
`07:59.56`	`Mephs`	`add an event "Unit Birth"`
`08:00.05`	`Maknyuzz`	`k`
`08:00.07`	`Maknyuzz`	`then`
`08:00.12`	`Mephs`	`then under that event add "Set Tint Color"`
`08:00.12`	`Maknyuzz`	`tint color?`
`08:00.19`	`Mephs`	`that'll tint it when the unit is created`
`08:00.26`	`Mephs`	`and it'll stay that way until otherwise specified`
`08:00.41`	`Maknyuzz`	`k k thanks`
`08:00.43`	`Maknyuzz`	`let me try`
`08:01.59`	`Maknyuzz`	`hmm`
`08:02.05`	`Maknyuzz`	`thats not really what i asked for`
`08:02.22`	`Maknyuzz`	`hang on let me try again`
`08:03.01`	`Maknyuzz`	`Mephs`
`08:03.12`	`Maknyuzz`	`can you make the whole body of zealot tinted?`
`08:03.15`	`Maknyuzz`	`not just the blade`
`08:03.19`	`Maknyuzz`	`tinted with player color`
`08:04.01`	`Mephs`	`oh`
`08:04.03`	`Mephs`	`you mean team color`
`08:04.24`	`Maknyuzz`	`yes tinted with team color`
`08:04.25`	`Mephs`	`i'm not sure what affects that, i'm assuming something on the model`
`08:04.30`	`Maknyuzz`	`but not just zealots blade`
`08:04.36`	`Maknyuzz`	`i want the whole body tinted by team color`
`08:04.41`	`Mephs`	`yea, i think thats part of the model`
`08:04.45`	`Mephs`	`and idk shit about modelling`
`08:04.52`	`Maknyuzz`	`lolz`
`08:05.03`	`Maknyuzz`	`k k thanks for helping anywya!`
`08:30.38`	`currydevil`	`Ok, still experiencing a weird bug/glitch/something with my spawned Nydus worms...`
`08:31.09`	`currydevil`	`units created as cargo, then unloaded end up "hanging" in the air after they unload.`
`08:31.34`	`currydevil`	`if they don't immediately have something to attack anyways`
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`08:42.34`	`currydevil`	`so I take it no one else has experienced weird things happen when creating nydus worms and telling them to unload cargo?`
`08:44.44`	`currydevil`	`http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8454/buggyworm.png <------ like so`
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`08:45.05`	`cintiq_`	`lmfao`
`08:45.06`	`cintiq_`	`awesome`
`08:47.44`	`currydevil`	`mhm`
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`08:56.30`	`Haetmachene`	`ok`
`08:56.41`	`Haetmachene`	`how do i add additional actors to a unit`
`09:06.29`	`A1win`	`I think you add units to actor events instead the other way round`
`09:06.57`	`A1win`	`would it be possible to make ghosts use an ally's shadow ops nukes instead of the player's own ones?`
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`09:10.09`	`peterpants`	`heya`
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`09:29.32`	`Haetmachene`	`ok`
`09:29.45`	`Haetmachene`	`i got the thing i want to attach to appear`
`09:29.56`	`Haetmachene`	`but it doesnt attach at all`
`09:30.05`	`Haetmachene`	`it just stays where it is`
`09:30.11`	`Haetmachene`	`any pointers?`
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`09:32.00`	`onetwo`	`hi`
`09:32.37`	`onetwo`	`anyone need any help testing maps`
`09:34.02`	`currydevil`	`well`
`09:34.07`	`currydevil`	`not quite testiong`
`09:34.15`	`currydevil`	`but have you seen this before http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8454/buggyworm.png ?`
`09:34.16`	`onetwo`	`?`
`09:34.18`	`Haetmachene`	`i could use some help`
`09:34.30`	`onetwo`	`nope wtf is that haha`
`09:34.33`	`onetwo`	`whats up Haetmachene`
`09:34.40`	`currydevil`	`that is .. buggy nydus worms =(`
`09:34.55`	`currydevil`	`thought it was because p15 was hostile, but changing that didn't help`
`09:34.55`	`Haetmachene`	`well i am trying to get a wow shoulder model to attach to a wow character model`
`09:35.11`	`Haetmachene`	`i got the shoulder model to spawn but it spawns unattached to my character's feet`
`09:35.24`	`onetwo`	`kk haetmachene thats way beyond me`
`09:35.27`	`onetwo`	`hi curry`
`09:35.27`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`09:35.28`	`Haetmachene`	`i am loosley following http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/8926-data-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty/#posts`
`09:39.12`	`currydevil`	`hi!`
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`09:43.12`	`Haetmachene`	`ok`
`09:43.23`	`Haetmachene`	`so i figured out the placement problem with my model`
`09:43.41`	`Haetmachene`	`now i need help with getting the model i want to attach to stay attached`
`09:43.45`	`Haetmachene`	`any pointers?`
`09:51.10`	`Haetmachene`	`anyone?`
`09:56.14`	`currydevil`	`i can keep the units from hanging like that if i am continuously issuing them orders...`
`09:56.25`	`currydevil`	`it's quite annoying though..`
`10:00.33`	`Haetmachene`	`so yeah`
`10:00.50`	`Haetmachene`	`i got a model to spawn at another model's hardpoint but it wont stay`
`10:01.21`	`Haetmachene`	`i uploaded onto mapster if anyone is interested in trying to figure out how to fully attach the shoulder to the orc`
`10:01.46`	`Haetmachene`	`any takers?`
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`10:07.53`	`Haetmachene`	`so despite spending hours on one small thing i feel like i have made one giant step forward in my project`
`10:08.15`	`Haetmachene`	`i started to get actors to function properly`
`10:08.51`	`Haetmachene`	`does anyone know if i can use certain actors interchangably with different models?`
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`10:09.17`	`Haetmachene`	`fuck i guess 5 am is noone is on time`
`10:09.52`	`Haetmachene`	`oh well ill post link to thread where the thing im fucking around with is on`
`10:10.04`	`Haetmachene`	`feel free to poke around`
`10:10.20`	`Haetmachene`	`if you got some feedback let me know`
`10:10.39`	`Haetmachene`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/14834-custom-unit-model-animations-help-please/#p3`
`10:19.23`	`Haetmachene`	`yeah imastop beating thisdead horse for tonight`
`10:19.26`	`Haetmachene`	`pce`
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`10:46.08`	`A1win`	`is it possible to make a behavior that unburrows an unit if an enemy comes too close or gains vision to the unit?`
`10:46.16`	`A1win`	`*a unit -.-`
`10:46.40`	`Mephs`	`you could use auto cast + validators`
`10:46.44`	`Mephs`	`and just use stock unburrow`
`10:47.03`	`Mephs`	`or`
`10:47.04`	`A1win`	`mmh`
`10:47.10`	`Mephs`	`if the behavior is giving them the buried effect`
`10:47.23`	`Mephs`	`do a validator (enum area check for hostile targets)`
`10:47.35`	`Mephs`	`just put the validator on the behavior's disable field`
`10:47.48`	`Mephs`	`and it'll disable the burrow flag while that validator flags false`
`10:48.08`	`Mephs`	`so basically whenever someone's in range that burrow is disabled, but re-enables when they are not in range`
`10:52.41`	`A1win`	`just need to learn the basics of making a behavior first it seems :P`
`10:53.23`	`A1win`	`how do I add a validator to the behavior?`
`10:54.07`	`A1win`	`using a requirement?`
`10:55.00`	`A1win`	`mmh... nope :P`
`10:56.58`	`A1win`	`oh.. I add behavior to a validator?`
`10:57.43`	`Clord`	`you are getting hang of it XD`
`10:57.57`	`Clord`	`maybe`
`10:58.47`	`Clord`	`btw... validator is just fancy name for thing what can be loaded with buffs so they all do their thing same time`
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`11:09.20`	`A1win`	`pff still no idea how I make the behavior disabled based on the validator :P`
`11:10.53`	`A1win`	`...maybe I should look at perdition turret`
`11:27.36`	`A1win`	`mmh... I set Burrow on autocast but the unit isn't using it :E`
`11:36.46`	`A1win`	`woo it burrowed :p`
`11:51.23`	`A1win`	`and now my search validator works too 8o`
`11:55.20`	`A1win`	`how do I make a validator to check if unit is visible to an enemy :E`
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`12:25.01`	`A1win`	`or how to make a validator to check if the caster has more than 75% life?`
`12:26.12`	`Aussie123`	`does the sc2 editor use a program language?`
`12:26.26`	`Aussie123`	`like java or c++ or something`
`12:26.36`	`A1win`	`uses its own script language`
`12:27.00`	`Aussie123`	`which language should i learn if i wanted to learn both..`
`12:27.12`	`Aussie123`	`the most similar i guess`
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`12:27.33`	`A1win`	`I think someone said it's quite similar to java but I haven't looked at it myself`
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`12:27.47`	`A1win`	`but you don't need to know the script language to use the editor`
`12:28.12`	`Dryeyece`	`any one know if theres is a website or seomthing you can check to see how many times your games been played?`
`12:28.14`	`Aussie123`	`but i want to make AWESOME maps and i guess that would require coding knowledge?`
`12:28.21`	`Dryeyece`	`no`
`12:28.31`	`Dryeyece`	`the tutoprials on sc2mapster are p,enty`
`12:28.35`	`Aussie123`	`i mean very complicated maps`
`12:28.35`	`Dryeyece`	`plenty`
`12:28.42`	`Dryeyece`	`I mena plenty`
`12:28.56`	`Dryeyece`	`dude they cover nearly everything in one way shape form or another`
`12:29.12`	`Aussie123`	`wouldn't it be easier to learn the language?`
`12:29.23`	`Dryeyece`	`I dont know`
`12:29.32`	`A1win`	`you can't make awesome maps just by knowing the script language`
`12:29.40`	`Dryeyece`	`I dont even know what you mean by language and my maps pretty pimp lol`
`12:29.49`	`Dryeyece`	`the coding language`
`12:30.01`	`Dryeyece`	`but I know how to make a trigger say if then lol`
`12:30.04`	`A1win`	`most stuff is handled by the data editor, scripts are mostly for overall gameplay`
`12:31.17`	`Aussie123`	`i have LOTS of map ideas which are nothing like each other so i need to know basically everything about it :p i have 6 months at home before i go to TAFE (like collage in usa?) so i have plenty of time to learn..`
`12:32.16`	`Dryeyece`	`go one thing at a time`
`12:32.19`	`Dryeyece`	`thats what i did`
`12:32.26`	`Dryeyece`	`starting with making a unit lol`
`12:32.26`	`A1win`	`I'd still suggest to learn the data editor and the trigger editor before the script language`
`12:32.45`	`Aussie123`	`i have already made a football map`
`12:32.54`	`Dryeyece`	`so anyone know how to check how many times your maps been played or anything like that?`
`12:33.06`	`Dryeyece`	`lol kool`
`12:33.07`	`A1win`	`you can make triggers without writing the code yourself (you can "code" by choosing functions and actions from drop down menus)`
`12:34.23`	`Aussie123`	`but isnt using the actual editor cheating, like using dream weaver instead of typing in notepad lol? or is it totally different..`
`12:34.28`	`Aussie123`	`for html obviously`
`12:37.16`	`A1win`	`cheating? <.<`
`12:37.32`	`A1win`	`is using a hammer cheating compared to hitting the nail down with your bare hands?`
`12:39.43`	`Aussie123`	`i mean.. you cant make the most awesoemest website using dream weaver, but u can in notepad by hand typing. im asking, can you make the most awesomest most complicated map using the editor without coding anything? does using the eidtor stop you from doing anything.. like is there stuff u can only do by coding?`
`12:40.11`	`A1win`	`there's very little stuff you can only do by coding`
`12:40.20`	`A1win`	`and you can add the code on top of the stuff you do with the editor`
`12:40.35`	`A1win`	`they aren't exclusive`
`12:41.48`	`Aussie123`	`my parents are forcing me to learn programming lol >.< i was hoping there would be a language which would help me make sc2 maps + other none related sc2 stuff`
`12:41.56`	`A1win`	`:P`
`12:43.02`	`A1win`	`well it won't do you any harm if you learn a programming language, you'll learn how to think like a programmer`
`12:43.11`	`A1win`	`even if it was another language`
`12:44.02`	`Aussie123`	`i was the "geek" at school everyone thought i knew everything but really i only know the basics to computers LOL.. i should have learned everything by now i should have made the best sc2 map ever i should have been making websites + have a job as an IT Consultant..`
`12:44.19`	`Aussie123`	`time to start now i think`
`12:44.26`	`A1win`	`bah why does my drone keep unburrowing even though I have "caster health greater than 75%" validator and the unit has less than 75% health...`
`12:44.33`	`Aussie123`	`now to think of sc2 map ideas`
`12:45.26`	`Aussie123`	`how long does it take to make maps like Uther Party lol? im guessing that will be 6 months alone`
`12:45.44`	`A1win`	`no idea what that is`
`12:45.56`	`Aussie123`	`uhh.. ok Mario Party then`
`12:45.58`	`Aussie123`	`wc3 maps`
`12:46.03`	`A1win`	`I don't know almost any custom maps :P`
`12:46.09`	`Aussie123`	`mini games`
`12:46.26`	`A1win`	`and it doesn't take long to make a mini game if you know what you're doing`
`12:46.47`	`Aussie123`	`like.. u make 20 mini games a person chooses 8 at the start. the winner gets 10 points 2nd gets 8 3rd gets 6 4th gets 4 or something like that`
`12:47.38`	`Aussie123`	`i have lots of "mini game" ideas in my head.. just don't know how to make them yet :p`
`12:48.01`	`Aussie123`	`they would be crap in their own map tho.. so i need to make 1 with all of them combined with a leaderboard`
`12:48.30`	`Deaod`	`SC2s scripting language is a castrated version of C`
`12:48.42`	`Deaod`	`not C++ or Java`
`12:48.49`	`Aussie123`	`so i should learn C`
`12:48.49`	`Aussie123`	`?`
`12:49.01`	`Deaod`	`why would you need to learn C?`
`12:49.18`	`Aussie123`	`because i want to learn a programming language which also helps me make sc2 maps :p`
`12:49.57`	`Aussie123`	`the sc2 maps is just a bonus, i need to learn other stuff too`
`12:50.12`	`Deaod`	`well, theres Andromeda`
`12:50.30`	`Aussie123`	`im 18 and the only thing im good at in life is computers.. so why not lol its my only hope at getting a job :p`
`12:51.11`	`Deaod`	`http://www.sc2mod.com/board/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=11`
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`12:51.38`	`BorgDragon`	`BDmon~`
`12:51.39`	`BDmon`	`hello`
`12:51.42`	`BDmon`	`hi BorgDragon`
`12:51.55`	`BorgDragon`	`Borg, or Dragon!`
`12:52.00`	`BorgDragon`	`for the last time! lol :P`
`12:52.11`	`BDmon`	`its b-Tab to me`
`12:52.20`	`BDmon`	`i mean bo - tab`
`12:52.22`	`BDmon`	`:]`
`12:52.29`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`12:52.32`	`BorgDragon`	`hey`
`12:52.34`	`BDmon`	`sup`
`12:52.46`	`BorgDragon`	`know how to 'stretch' a sound with the Data Editor?`
`12:52.57`	`Deaod`	`really though, just learn galaxy first.`
`12:53.07`	`BorgDragon`	`I'm playing the sound Reaper_D8AttackLaunch`
`12:53.16`	`BorgDragon`	`it does its click, then count down sound for 3 seconds`
`12:53.21`	`BorgDragon`	`I need that to countdown for 5 seconds`
`12:53.30`	`BorgDragon`	`I can't figure out the 5 second countdown`
`12:53.38`	`BorgDragon`	`then my Sticky Bomb is complete`
`12:53.41`	`BDmon`	`there's a sound with 3 sec countdown?`
`12:53.47`	`Deaod`	`once youre done learning galaxy, there will be at least one other extension for galaxy out there thats more similar to a modern language`
`12:53.48`	`BorgDragon`	`its from the campaign`
`12:53.49`	`BDmon`	`and u want it to last 5 sec?`
`12:53.58`	`BorgDragon`	`ya, how can I distort it`
`12:53.59`	`BorgDragon`	`you know?`
`12:54.06`	`BDmon`	`dont think that's possible in the editor`
`12:54.10`	`BorgDragon`	`i used to do it way back in 99`
`12:54.11`	`BDmon`	`there's not really a sound editor`
`12:54.12`	`Aussie123`	`any PDF's for galaxy then?`
`12:54.16`	`BorgDragon`	`damn`
`12:54.20`	`BorgDragon`	`I'll have to figure out`
`12:54.21`	`BorgDragon`	`OOH!`
`12:54.22`	`Aussie123`	`ebook`
`12:54.22`	`BorgDragon`	`i know!`
`12:54.25`	`BDmon`	`oh`
`12:54.28`	`BorgDragon`	`I'll have a sound actor`
`12:54.29`	`BDmon`	`that was easy :"P`
`12:54.31`	`BorgDragon`	`with a timer`
`12:54.34`	`BDmon`	`doh`
`12:54.37`	`BorgDragon`	`each 1 second`
`12:54.37`	`BDmon`	`make it urself :]`
`12:54.40`	`BorgDragon`	`plays a sound`
`12:54.46`	`BorgDragon`	`instead of having that already made sound`
`12:54.53`	`BorgDragon`	`i'll make my own countdown "beeps"`
`12:55.12`	`BorgDragon`	`<-- genius with an IQ of 12`
`12:55.15`	`Aussie123`	`do u recommend video tutorials or written, i have 12-18 hours a day for around 6 months to learn this stuff`
`12:55.32`	`BorgDragon`	`if you have that much time, video's are very direct`
`12:55.42`	`BDmon`	`def`
`12:55.46`	`BorgDragon`	`although sometimes they run a little off tangent`
`12:55.52`	`BDmon`	`check onetwo's videos`
`12:55.57`	`Aussie123`	`is OneTwo still the go to guy them?`
`12:55.57`	`BorgDragon`	`I can do some of onetwo's videos`
`12:55.58`	`Aussie123`	`then*`
`12:56.06`	`BDmon`	`http://www.youtube.com/user/OneTwoSC`
`12:56.07`	`BorgDragon`	`but half the shit I already know and just skip most of em lol`
`12:56.25`	`BorgDragon`	`like I gotta watch for 10 minutes to find the answer for what I need sometimes`
`12:56.33`	`Aussie123`	`ok.. should i do what he says while hes saying it or just keep watching them over and over and over`
`12:56.35`	`BDmon`	`lol true`
`12:56.45`	`Aussie123`	`over and over and over til christmas`
`12:56.47`	`BDmon`	`Aussie123 just make it as he makes it`
`12:56.50`	`BorgDragon`	`he's already got them setup`
`12:56.53`	`BorgDragon`	`on some vids`
`12:56.56`	`BDmon`	`then after check if u understand all`
`12:57.02`	`BDmon`	`some yea`
`12:57.05`	`BorgDragon`	`so some you can make, some you have to watch and pause`
`12:57.08`	`BDmon`	`if u do hero stuff, start at the first`
`12:57.26`	`BorgDragon`	`learn your hotkeys :P`
`12:57.55`	`BDmon`	`what hotkeys`
`12:57.56`	`BorgDragon`	`now.. to find a bleeping sound`
`12:57.58`	`Aussie123`	`so start my own maps now or try and make what hes making?`
`12:58.17`	`BDmon`	`i always make small test maps of what he's making`
`12:58.19`	`BorgDragon`	`I just make a new map of each thing I try and do`
`12:58.22`	`BDmon`	`then implement in my own map`
`12:58.34`	`Aussie123`	`thats gonna be messy lol i would have thought it would be easier to just keep watching from 1st vid to last over and over til its jammed in my head so far it cant escape`
`12:58.36`	`BorgDragon`	`I got a folder for "test" maps`
`12:58.41`	`BorgDragon`	`one for "proven Concepts"`
`12:58.42`	`BDmon`	`never go testing in ur own map straight away when ur not too familiar with it yet`
`12:58.45`	`BorgDragon`	`and another for "WIP"`
`12:59.05`	`BorgDragon`	`well, you will have to practice it too, aussie123`
`12:59.26`	`BDmon`	`so what are you still talking here, go! :D`
`12:59.34`	`BDmon`	`practise makes perfect`
`12:59.37`	`BorgDragon`	`yep`
`12:59.55`	`BDmon`	`brb nicotine calling :\|`
`13:00.33`	`Aussie123`	`would saving the tutorials mp3s onto my phone and listne to it while i sleep help at all LOL well that just sounds creepy but i saw it on dragon ball z lol`
`13:00.46`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`13:00.47`	`BorgDragon`	`who knows`
`13:00.58`	`Aussie123`	`i might wake up one morning and know everything`
`13:01.18`	`Aussie123`	`i doubt it some how tho :p`
`13:01.28`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`13:01.32`	`BorgDragon`	`wouldn't that be nice`
`13:01.34`	`BorgDragon`	`like the matrix`
`13:01.42`	`BorgDragon`	`learn something in 2 seconds`
`13:01.51`	`Aussie123`	`or japanese`
`13:01.58`	`BorgDragon`	`currently attempting to learn`
`13:01.59`	`BorgDragon`	`:P`
`13:01.59`	`Aussie123`	`and chinese`
`13:02.02`	`BorgDragon`	`japanese, that is`
`13:02.18`	`Aussie123`	`i wish it was that easy to learn stuff`
`13:02.29`	`BorgDragon`	`I wish it was that easy to stay thin :P`
`13:02.53`	`Aussie123`	`or if the dragon balls were real i could just "wish" i knew every thing LOL`
`13:03.07`	`Aussie123`	`i would make the best sc2 maps then`
`13:03.08`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`13:03.10`	`BorgDragon`	`dude`
`13:03.13`	`BorgDragon`	`everyone else`
`13:03.15`	`BorgDragon`	`would know NOTHING`
`13:03.20`	`BorgDragon`	`and you would still only know what you know`
`13:03.23`	`BorgDragon`	`and you know that's what would happen`
`13:03.30`	`BorgDragon`	`you have to word your wishes properly :P`
`13:04.06`	`Aussie123`	`:/ ok i "wish" i knew everything to do with starcraft 2 mapping`
`13:04.23`	`Aussie123`	`every command`
`13:04.34`	`BorgDragon`	`hehe`
`13:04.37`	`Aussie123`	`i would make the new dota`
`13:04.42`	`BorgDragon`	`why ?`
`13:04.45`	`Aussie123`	`that has nothing to do with dota`
`13:04.48`	`BorgDragon`	`you would just get sued :P`
`13:04.50`	`Aussie123`	`cos dota is gay`
`13:04.50`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`13:05.19`	`Aussie123`	`i mean i would make the next map everyone loves`
`13:05.23`	`BorgDragon`	`today I buy my 40inch computer monitor :P`
`13:05.44`	`BorgDragon`	`Nexus Math Wars ??`
`13:05.46`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`13:05.59`	`Aussie123`	`ha i could just go and put my computer in the lounge, there already beat u to it`
`13:06.04`	`Aussie123`	`i have a 40inch sony bravia`
`13:06.08`	`BorgDragon`	`nice`
`13:06.13`	`BorgDragon`	`I'm geting the samsung 550`
`13:06.31`	`Aussie123`	`were going to get a massiveee projector soon`
`13:06.36`	`BorgDragon`	`nice`
`13:06.38`	`BorgDragon`	`I wish I could get one`
`13:06.39`	`Aussie123`	`we want it to be as big as possible`
`13:06.41`	`BorgDragon`	`my buddy has one... ZOMG`
`13:06.43`	`BorgDragon`	`116 inches`
`13:06.46`	`BorgDragon`	`fucking ridiculous`
`13:07.09`	`Aussie123`	`i mean soon as in when we get our giant house built on top of a gulley :p`
`13:07.14`	`BorgDragon`	`hehe`
`13:07.24`	`BorgDragon`	`ya, cause you need a giant fucking wall :P`
`13:07.24`	`Aussie123`	`a whole room dedicated to the projecter`
`13:07.26`	`BorgDragon`	`yep`
`13:07.58`	`Aussie123`	`i am saving Avatar til then`
`13:08.12`	`Aussie123`	`going to watch it in 1080p on a whatever inch we get..`
`13:08.17`	`BorgDragon`	`nice :P`
`13:08.18`	`BDmon`	`how do i put a requirement something so i need to learn something first to see the button`
`13:08.23`	`BDmon`	`on*`
`13:08.40`	`BorgDragon`	`you would need a validator, I think`
`13:08.44`	`BDmon`	`im making a new requirement now, ability count?`
`13:08.47`	`BorgDragon`	`the requirement only has to do with button pressing`
`13:09.02`	`BorgDragon`	`I believe anyways`
`13:09.14`	`BDmon`	`cos i have one for count upgrade, finished`
`13:09.22`	`BDmon`	`but the count ability doesnt have that`
`13:09.35`	`BorgDragon`	`hmm`
`13:10.23`	`BorgDragon`	`no fucking wonder I have no sound playing`
`13:10.29`	`BorgDragon`	`turns his speakers on`
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`13:12.41`	`BDmon`	`hehe`
`13:12.50`	`BDmon`	`think i fixed it with the validator ye`
`13:12.57`	`BorgDragon`	`:)`
`13:13.08`	`BDmon`	`validator + requirement sounds logical`
`13:14.51`	`BDmon`	`well the count ability, complete doesnt work`
`13:15.04`	`BorgDragon`	`I'm fairly certain it's a validator that you needf`
`13:15.07`	`BorgDragon`	`need*`
`13:15.10`	`BorgDragon`	`I was reading a post a while back`
`13:15.19`	`BorgDragon`	`this one guy made 20 command cards on 1 unit :P`
`13:15.23`	`BorgDragon`	`using validators and shit`
`13:15.24`	`BDmon`	`well it says required learn marine drop`
`13:15.25`	`BorgDragon`	`pretty much`
`13:15.28`	`BDmon`	`but still is available`
`13:15.38`	`BorgDragon`	`uh`
`13:15.45`	`BorgDragon`	`to use?`
`13:15.50`	`BDmon`	`ye`
`13:15.54`	`BorgDragon`	`should be Use Marine Drop, no?`
`13:15.55`	`BDmon`	`and i set the requirement at the button itself`
`13:15.57`	`BorgDragon`	`and Learn for hte upgrade ?`
`13:16.00`	`BDmon`	`so that needs to be a requirement`
`13:16.14`	`BorgDragon`	`Use requirement at the button on your unit using it`
`13:16.18`	`BorgDragon`	`Learn at the upgrade button`
`13:16.36`	`BDmon`	`well its an upgrade for the marines`
`13:16.46`	`BorgDragon`	`oh`
`13:16.47`	`BDmon`	`so only use once`
`13:16.50`	`BorgDragon`	`the marine learns it himself?`
`13:16.59`	`BDmon`	`no the hero can do the upgrade`
`13:17.09`	`BorgDragon`	`your hero is the upgrader`
`13:17.11`	`BorgDragon`	`ok`
`13:17.21`	`BDmon`	`ye since my buildings are neutral`
`13:17.25`	`BDmon`	`so u cant upgrade from it`
`13:17.27`	`BDmon`	`:\|`
`13:17.37`	`BorgDragon`	`isn't there a way?`
`13:17.42`	`BorgDragon`	`unless it only works with shops and shit`
`13:17.46`	`BDmon`	`anyway i think i need a use requirement/validator for it`
`13:18.05`	`BDmon`	`well i got the buying working on it np, the packages spawn on the ground but ok`
`13:18.22`	`BDmon`	`just that it doesnt know which player to set the upgrade to if the building isnt yours`
`13:18.34`	`BDmon`	`or so it seems`
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`13:19.46`	`BorgDragon`	`aah`
`13:21.01`	`BorgDragon`	`OK`
`13:21.05`	`BorgDragon`	`hopefully this is my final test`
`13:21.07`	`BorgDragon`	`and I am done this ability`
`13:21.18`	`BorgDragon`	`~8ball do you think I'm done?`
`13:21.18`	`purl`	`Absolutely.`
`13:21.24`	`BorgDragon`	`shwing!`
`13:21.42`	`BDmon`	`gl`
`13:22.23`	`BorgDragon`	`niice`
`13:22.25`	`BorgDragon`	`the final beep goes off`
`13:22.28`	`BorgDragon`	`as the explosion does`
`13:22.30`	`BorgDragon`	`perfect`
`13:22.43`	`BorgDragon`	`i'm going to tweak the bomb though`
`13:22.47`	`BorgDragon`	`I want a very visible one`
`13:23.00`	`BorgDragon`	`hte Missile Pod doesn't even show up that well with a 100HDR color thint`
`13:23.02`	`BorgDragon`	`tint*`
`13:23.17`	`BorgDragon`	`wether its 5hdr or 100hdr, its the same color lol`
`13:23.29`	`BDmon`	`hmm`
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`13:25.18`	`A1win`	`uff... I have a validator for Unburrow autocast which searches the area around the caster for enemies, and the search filter has "Required: Visibele" but the unit still unburrows even if the unit it found is not visible to it :\| other flags work (like excluded: invulnerable) and some others not (like excluded: cloaked)`
`13:25.55`	`BDmon`	`and they are enemies?`
`13:26.20`	`A1win`	`mm`
`13:27.04`	`BorgDragon`	`exclude: Hidden`
`13:27.09`	`BorgDragon`	`try that one`
`13:27.11`	`A1win`	`got that too`
`13:27.20`	`A1win`	`but it's for hidden units, as in hidden from the game`
`13:27.24`	`BorgDragon`	`oh`
`13:27.57`	`A1win`	`but the filter passes to cloaked untis even though it has Excluded: Cloaked`
`13:28.01`	`A1win`	`so what's up :S`
`13:28.14`	`BDmon`	`well for allies its not cloacked i think`
`13:28.16`	`BorgDragon`	`I know`
`13:28.17`	`BDmon`	`or at least visible`
`13:28.23`	`A1win`	`but it's an enemy :x`
`13:28.26`	`BorgDragon`	`add a second requirement`
`13:28.30`	`BorgDragon`	`Is Not Cloaked`
`13:28.34`	`BorgDragon`	`should be already in the editor`
`13:28.55`	`A1win`	`how do I add it to the area search validator?`
`13:29.12`	`BorgDragon`	`create a new validator`
`13:29.15`	`BorgDragon`	`type: Combine`
`13:29.23`	`BorgDragon`	`add your first validator and Is Not Cloaked`
`13:29.26`	`A1win`	`it's Enumerate Area that counts enemies within radius of 5 of the unburrowing unit`
`13:29.33`	`BorgDragon`	`into the combine validator, AND`
`13:29.52`	`BorgDragon`	`just use an 'AND' Combine Validator`
`13:29.58`	`A1win`	`but I don't want to check if the unburrowing unit is cloaked, I want to check if there are visible enemies around it`
`13:30.17`	`BorgDragon`	`there's one I believe for enemies`
`13:30.26`	`BorgDragon`	`tweak the target to Outer or whatnot`
`13:30.34`	`A1win`	`the Is Cloaked check is for targets`
`13:30.41`	`A1win`	`what's Outer?`
`13:30.46`	`BorgDragon`	`NOT you`
`13:31.08`	`BorgDragon`	`try that out, it might work`
`13:31.15`	`A1win`	`mmh`
`13:31.17`	`BorgDragon`	`omg my head is spinning for some reason`
`13:31.39`	`BDmon`	`:/`
`13:31.45`	`BorgDragon`	`whyyy`
`13:31.52`	`BorgDragon`	`it's making me nauseous`
`13:31.56`	`BorgDragon`	`I cant look at the screen, afk`
`13:32.09`	`BDmon`	`take a break ye`
`13:36.17`	`BorgDragon`	`ok, I'm back`
`13:36.25`	`BorgDragon`	`I'm having something to eat`
`13:36.43`	`A1win`	`Caster Life GT75 Percent validator is also not working for the autocast x.x it unburrows no matter how much health it has`
`13:37.42`	`BorgDragon`	`hmm`
`13:39.13`	`BorgDragon`	`well fuck`
`13:39.19`	`BorgDragon`	`apparently missiles do not like being tinted`
`13:39.28`	`BorgDragon`	`which is horse shiiiiiiit`
`13:41.26`	`BorgDragon`	`I reiterate: apparently, missiles dislike being tinted LIGHT colors`
`13:41.41`	`BorgDragon`	`went dark color, with 100HDR.... almost a metal color, and bright`
`13:41.59`	`BorgDragon`	`metal = metallic`
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`13:46.27`	`BDmon`	`nice`
`13:50.50`	`BorgDragon`	`yepp`
`13:50.58`	`BorgDragon`	`I'm just making it look like a sticky from Halo`
`13:51.04`	`BorgDragon`	`screw the mechanical looking bomb`
`13:51.47`	`BorgDragon`	`ewww gross`
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`13:54.42`	`Ashamed`	`Good morning`
`13:55.12`	`BorgDragon`	`morning`
`13:55.34`	`BDmon`	`morning`
`13:56.11`	`Ashamed`	`hows the world of starcraft today?`
`13:56.34`	`BDmon`	`prity alright but bugged by requirements`
`13:56.36`	`BDmon`	`:]`
`13:56.58`	`BDmon`	`upgrade requirements are fine, but how to do it with learn skills :\|`
`14:01.22`	`BorgDragon`	`good overall. Just tweaking my sticky bombs graphics`
`14:02.23`	`BorgDragon`	`how come I can use the protoss detonate missile`
`14:02.24`	`BorgDragon`	`as a missile`
`14:02.30`	`BorgDragon`	`but I can't attach it to a unit as my sticky`
`14:02.43`	`BorgDragon`	`i can stick a missile pod as a sticky... but for some reason`
`14:02.49`	`BorgDragon`	`some missiels dont work`
`14:03.21`	`BDmon`	`maybe something to do with mass?`
`14:03.44`	`BDmon`	`i tried to make forcefields destructable but the whole model didnt have mass`
`14:04.15`	`BorgDragon`	`I've made them destructible..`
`14:04.26`	`BorgDragon`	`they behave oddly, though`
`14:04.30`	`BDmon`	`darn i knew it would be possible`
`14:04.32`	`BDmon`	`oh why`
`14:04.44`	`*** join/#sc2mapster BorgDragon666 (~BorgDrago@24.138.168.211)`
`14:05.03`	`BDmon`	`how do they behave then?`
`14:05.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Zara (4f1f05b7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.31.5.183)`
`14:06.02`	`BorgDragon666`	`untargettable manually`
`14:06.13`	`BorgDragon666`	`can't attack my own forcefields`
`14:06.20`	`BorgDragon666`	`but left alone, my units will kill enemy forcefields`
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`14:06.43`	`BorgDragon666`	`even though I tried to make them selectable and all`
`14:06.44`	`BDmon`	`but u cant target it with ur units either`
`14:06.54`	`BorgDragon666`	`thats what I said`
`14:06.58`	`BorgDragon666`	`untargettable by ME`
`14:07.04`	`BorgDragon666`	`if I attack move, they kill the force fields`
`14:07.12`	`BDmon`	`hmm`
`14:07.16`	`BorgDragon666`	`if there's a hostile forcefield, they destroy it`
`14:07.22`	`Aussie123`	`ok got my beer tim tams chips and coke for later.. time to learn galaxy for 4 hours`
`14:07.31`	`BorgDragon666`	`but I cannot click-attack my own, like they cannot be highlighted, selected, nothing`
`14:07.44`	`BDmon`	`bah`
`14:08.48`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Acemore (~lol@193.212.26.7)`
`14:09.00`	`BDmon`	`hey Acemore hows ur map doing?`
`14:10.22`	`Acemore`	`doing well :)`
`14:10.25`	`Acemore`	`currently working on dialogs`
`14:10.31`	`BDmon`	`~8ball do i have anything important to do today?`
`14:10.31`	`purl`	`Please ask again.`
`14:10.43`	`Zara`	`guys`
`14:10.44`	`Acemore`	`to allow players to vote on modes/arenas on map start`
`14:10.45`	`BDmon`	`~8ball do i have anything important to do today?`
`14:10.45`	`purl`	`No.`
`14:10.47`	`BDmon`	`good`
`14:10.55`	`BDmon`	`ah nice`
`14:10.55`	`Zara`	`how can I get the count of a charge?`
`14:11.03`	`A1win`	`x.x I can't get this to work... the drone is unburrowing when an enemy comes to the range defined by the validator... I want it to not unburrow if the enemy is not visible, but Required: Visible search filter on the validator does nothing`
`14:11.25`	`BorgDragon666`	`OMG OWNED`
`14:11.35`	`BDmon`	`u got a requirement aswell A1win?`
`14:11.47`	`BDmon`	`im fiddling with this aswell atm so dno all about it`
`14:11.57`	`A1win`	`why requirement?`
`14:12.03`	`BDmon`	`Zara DE or TE ?`
`14:12.09`	`Zara`	`what?`
`14:12.09`	`BDmon`	`requirement for unburrow?`
`14:12.10`	`BorgDragon666`	`I got my "sticky" to look like a sticky`
`14:12.17`	`BDmon`	`Zara data editor or via triggers`
`14:12.22`	`Zara`	`triggers`
`14:12.24`	`BDmon`	`nice BorgDragon666`
`14:12.26`	`BDmon`	`hmm`
`14:12.35`	`Zara`	`I can't find a way to count them`
`14:12.49`	`BorgDragon666`	`decided to add event : Behavior.StickyTimer.On - PlayAnimX Stand Loop Forever`
`14:12.50`	`Zara`	`I can add or remove... but not get the current number`
`14:13.03`	`BDmon`	`do u add all via triggers?`
`14:13.13`	`BDmon`	`cos u can make a global var and store it then`
`14:13.14`	`Aussie123`	`i want to try and make Robot Unicorn Attack in sc2.. would that be too advanced for a beginner lol??`
`14:13.22`	`Zara`	`It seems strange`
`14:13.27`	`Zara`	`there is not a functon`
`14:13.29`	`Zara`	`however`
`14:13.34`	`BDmon`	`maybe its through player or unit properties`
`14:14.25`	`Aussie123`	`is it possible to get units to jump yet?`
`14:14.30`	`A1win`	`why does the unburrow need a requirement?`
`14:14.45`	`Aussie123`	`think of a horse jumping is it possible to get a unit to jump like that.. like up and down`
`14:14.46`	`BDmon`	`Aussie123 ehh u got jumping reapers?`
`14:14.56`	`Aussie123`	`curved`
`14:15.07`	`A1win`	`isn't the autocast validator supposed to check if it's allowed to autocast it`
`14:15.09`	`BDmon`	`A1win dno if its needed, but maybe that's where it bugs`
`14:15.26`	`BDmon`	`sounds logical but DE isn't always logical`
`14:15.28`	`BDmon`	`imo`
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`14:15.55`	`Aussie123`	`wouldn't u need to jump over a cliff for it to work tho..`
`14:16.01`	`BDmon`	`then again i dont know much about DE yet so might wanna wait for guru's to wake up`
`14:16.02`	`Aussie123`	`reapers`
`14:16.12`	`BDmon`	`Aussie123 Acemore made rocket jump`
`14:16.13`	`BorgDragon666`	`NOOO!!`
`14:16.14`	`BDmon`	`its possible`
`14:16.18`	`BorgDragon666`	`NOOO editor crash!? noooooo`
`14:16.21`	`BDmon`	`oo`
`14:17.22`	`Aussie123`	`ok`
`14:18.01`	`Aussie123`	`is it possible to make a spinny thing that spins in circles and u gotta jump over it or u will die lol?`
`14:18.18`	`BorgDragon666`	`probably`
`14:18.23`	`BDmon`	`ehm well there's alot possible`
`14:18.32`	`BorgDragon666`	`your spinny thing`
`14:18.36`	`BorgDragon666`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:18.40`	`BorgDragon666`	`as a validator`
`14:18.42`	`BorgDragon666`	`for the damage`
`14:18.47`	`Aussie123`	`wat would u use tho.. like what material`
`14:18.48`	`BorgDragon666`	`your jump changes the units height field`
`14:18.58`	`BorgDragon666`	`you validate the damage by unit heigh`
`14:19.27`	`BDmon`	`well either u make a new model, which i dont recommend unless ur 3dsmax guru, or u get something out of the game`
`14:19.47`	`BorgDragon666`	`um`
`14:19.52`	`Acemore`	`woooot, Mapser news up! :)`
`14:19.54`	`BorgDragon666`	`Terratron's Spinning Blade`
`14:19.56`	`Aussie123`	`should i be trying to learn other stuff before i do this advanced stuff..???`
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`14:20.12`	`Aussie123`	`if i learn other stuff i should know this off by heart`
`14:20.40`	`BorgDragon666`	`sweet`
`14:20.44`	`BorgDragon666`	`Sticky Bomb: Complete`
`14:20.50`	`BDmon`	`yes Aussie123 start by doing the video tutorials`
`14:20.55`	`BorgDragon666`	`I gonna run and go buy that 40inch monitor`
`14:21.03`	`BDmon`	`ull learn how the dataeditor and triggers work`
`14:21.05`	`BorgDragon666`	`i'll try and get a video recorded later tonight or tomorrow`
`14:21.09`	`BDmon`	`hehe nice BorgDragon666`
`14:21.25`	`BorgDragon666`	`and the graphic explosion, is the perfect size`
`14:21.40`	`BorgDragon666`	`anyways, cya laters`
`14:22.12`	`BorgDragon\|Away`	`bah, i hate short nicks lol`
`14:22.37`	`Aussie123`	`what kind of tut should i watch first`
`14:22.49`	`Aussie123`	`pretend i know nothing at all about the editor`
`14:23.10`	`J-Man_`	`so i want to turn a critter into a normal unit, but it keeps wandering. how can i stop that wander behavior?`
`14:23.44`	`BDmon`	`just saw something interesting though.. spine crawlers attached to the back of a ultralisk`
`14:23.57`	`Aussie123`	`theres boxes u gotta untick tho i dont remember where off by heart :p`
`14:24.00`	`BDmon`	`huh?`
`14:24.01`	`Aussie123`	`j-man_`
`14:26.03`	`BDmon`	`J-Man_ its at the UI - Fidget`
`14:26.17`	`J-Man_`	`oh awesome`
`14:26.19`	`J-Man_`	`thanks much`
`14:26.22`	`BDmon`	`np :]`
`14:26.27`	`BDmon`	`learned something aswell :P`
`14:27.17`	`BDmon`	`it also has a wander behavior`
`14:31.50`	`J-Man_`	`yeah, he's still wandering`
`14:31.57`	`BDmon`	`u removed the behavior?`
`14:32.25`	`J-Man_`	`the only behavior he has is critter explode`
`14:32.34`	`BDmon`	`so anyone know how to restrict a btn if an ability is not learned yet?`
`14:33.38`	`BDmon`	`well i guess u can set his movement speed 0 :P`
`14:33.58`	`J-Man_`	`i actually need him to move relatively fast`
`14:34.06`	`BDmon`	`ah`
`14:34.09`	`BDmon`	`but not wander`
`14:34.11`	`J-Man_`	`i guess i could dupe a zealot and attach his model`
`14:34.16`	`J-Man_`	`controlled movement`
`14:34.21`	`BDmon`	`you can try`
`14:34.31`	`BDmon`	`but i bet u'll run into model problems then`
`14:34.41`	`BDmon`	`like dieing models etc`
`14:34.44`	`J-Man_`	`yeah?`
`14:34.50`	`BDmon`	`dno didnt try that yet`
`14:34.57`	`J-Man_`	`the unit's never going to die`
`14:35.08`	`J-Man_`	`well, i guess not never`
`14:35.53`	`BDmon`	`hmm`
`14:36.11`	`BDmon`	`i guess if nothing is attached to it telling it to wander it shouldn't`
`14:36.20`	`BDmon`	`so if it does, there's something telling him to move :]`
`14:36.22`	`BDmon`	`brb`
`14:36.41`	`Aussie123`	`i have so many god damn ideas i have to learn this :[`
`14:37.11`	`Aussie123`	`editor needs more fun stuff like in wc3`
`14:37.18`	`Aussie123`	`editor`
`14:37.50`	`Aussie123`	`there are no boats no farm houses`
`14:38.04`	`Aussie123`	`no cars`
`14:39.33`	`Clord`	`lack of stuff is mostly because gameplay lol`
`14:39.42`	`Clord`	`they didn't want actual fighting creeps etc for SCII`
`14:39.44`	`Ashamed`	`yeah there are`
`14:39.55`	`Ashamed`	`there are lots of doodads`
`14:40.03`	`Aussie123`	`they said the editor is supposed to be so awesome tho`
`14:40.08`	`Ashamed`	`and the campaign brings in alo tof other vehicals`
`14:40.12`	`Ashamed`	`it is`
`14:40.18`	`Ashamed`	`you can create your own models`
`14:40.23`	`Aussie123`	`pointless if theres nothhing to use :p`
`14:40.28`	`Ashamed`	`... there is`
`14:40.31`	`Ashamed`	`you have sc2 to use`
`14:40.33`	`Ashamed`	`not war3`
`14:40.42`	`Ashamed`	`sc2 is a futurisitc space rts`
`14:40.54`	`Ashamed`	`war3 is a fantasy rts`
`14:41.08`	`Ashamed`	`you dont need cars in space`
`14:41.09`	`Aussie123`	`so its the editor im talking about`
`14:41.14`	`Aussie123`	`not the actual game`
`14:41.15`	`Ashamed`	`you dont need boats in space`
`14:41.29`	`Aussie123`	`so ur saying there shouldn't be water :p`
`14:41.33`	`Ashamed`	`everything in war3 edidtor is in the game`
`14:41.44`	`Ashamed`	`everything in the sc2 editor is in the game`
`14:41.49`	`Ashamed`	`well most of it`
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`14:42.05`	`Ashamed`	`its a differnt genra thats it`
`14:42.34`	`Ashamed`	`but i am pretty sure that blizzard is thinking about adding all of the war3 assets in the editor`
`14:42.34`	`Clord`	`it is that in future.... even in real world.... advanced space crafts can handle same stuff what normally sea ship would do.......`
`14:42.38`	`Aussie123`	`aren't the models tiny im sure they could have fitted a lot more "fun" models in the game`
`14:42.58`	`J-Man_`	`so i s there a way i can remove health bars from a unit?`
`14:42.59`	`Ashamed`	`yeah space = the big space sea`
`14:43.14`	`Ashamed`	`we have migrated from the waters of our own planet to the waters of space`
`14:43.34`	`Clord`	`I kinda meant more literally.. like fishing`
`14:43.37`	`Aussie123`	`if it was really about space they could fit put space ships in the game >.< well in the editor`
`14:43.38`	`Clord`	`can just hover over water`
`14:43.39`	`Clord`	`and fish`
`14:43.40`	`Clord`	`^^`
`14:43.49`	`Clord`	`assuming it is not size of battleship lol`
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`14:44.18`	`Ashamed`	`anytime people relate things to space its always the navy`
`14:44.44`	`Clord`	`well yeah... that is kinda pointing the obvious`
`14:45.24`	`Aussie123`	`how am i supposed to make a "i sunk your battle ship" game without boats :p`
`14:45.30`	`Aussie123`	`map*`
`14:45.37`	`BDmon`	`make boars`
`14:45.40`	`BDmon`	`boats even`
`14:45.47`	`BDmon`	`or ask someone to make em`
`14:45.51`	`BDmon`	`or chose another game`
`14:45.52`	`BDmon`	`:D`
`14:46.47`	`Aussie123`	`make a boat.. it has to look like a boat or its just not the same :p`
`14:47.08`	`BDmon`	`ye i ment model a boat`
`14:47.09`	`J-Man_`	`do it in the sky. using flying units`
`14:47.10`	`nolliepoper`	`how to add a canneling cast bar to middle bottom of screen in the black unit description box?`
`14:47.27`	`nolliepoper`	`I been trying to do this since saterday.`
`14:47.43`	`BDmon`	`black unit description box?`
`14:47.50`	`BDmon`	`at the unit info?`
`14:48.10`	`BDmon`	`no idea where u can change stuff there`
`14:48.19`	`Aussie123`	`i guess a carrier lowered to the ground on water could look like a submarine >.<`
`14:48.36`	`nolliepoper`	`yassir BDmon`
`14:48.48`	`BDmon`	`hehe`
`14:48.51`	`Aussie123`	`or battle cruiser could look like a surf board LOL`
`14:48.53`	`nolliepoper`	`a simple casting bar that shows the spell as it is loading.`
`14:49.21`	`Aussie123`	`get a marine surfing on top of a battle cruiser in the water`
`14:50.49`	`BDmon`	`there's a monorail car that can look like a boat`
`14:50.56`	`J-Man_`	`can i turn off health/energy bars for a unit?`
`14:50.58`	`BDmon`	`well`
`14:51.01`	`BDmon`	`sorta`
`14:51.32`	`nolliepoper`	`J-Man like when you hold alt?`
`14:51.51`	`J-Man_`	`yeah, except i want them to never be on`
`14:51.58`	`J-Man_`	`they're not useful in my game`
`14:52.20`	`nolliepoper`	`I wondering if I can hide the mana for enemys and have the health always turned on. posible?`
`14:53.24`	`J-Man_`	`do i have to do it in triggers?`
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`14:54.20`	`Wiz10011`	`Hello`
`14:54.29`	`BDmon`	`hey Wiz10011`
`14:54.34`	`Wiz10011`	`Whats up?`
`14:54.43`	`BDmon`	`nm u?`
`14:55.04`	`Wiz10011`	`looking for a good tutorial on hero levels.`
`14:55.08`	`J-Man_`	`health bars? can i disable them?`
`14:55.25`	`BDmon`	`u checked onetwosc's ?`
`14:55.33`	`BDmon`	`J-Man_ dno man`
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`14:55.42`	`BDmon`	`sounds like data editor stuff but no idea where`
`14:55.48`	`BDmon`	`u searched sc2mapster?`
`14:55.48`	`Wiz10011`	`yea i followed his already`
`14:55.56`	`Wiz10011`	`but it doesnt seem to be working for me`
`14:56.05`	`BDmon`	`ah whats not working?`
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`14:56.25`	`Wiz10011`	`i can learn 1 ability but if i have 2 abilitys on the command card 2, it only learns the first one on the hero learn.`
`14:56.59`	`Wiz10011`	`If i have ability 1 and ability 2, ability 1 is first on the hero learn ability. if i learn ability 2 it still gives ability 1 ingame`
`14:57.17`	`BDmon`	`u set the ability right for the button?`
`14:57.28`	`nolliepoper`	`Wiz do you know how to add the casting bar to the unit info?`
`14:58.10`	`Wiz10011`	`Nope, did you try the Cast Time start? under ability?`
`14:58.17`	`Wiz10011`	`and im not sure BDmon`
`14:58.29`	`nolliepoper`	`I saw it there but can't figure that out.`
`14:59.07`	`BDmon`	`Wiz10011 u got the learn ability with the 2 abilities inthere right?`
`14:59.13`	`Wiz10011`	`Yes`
`14:59.22`	`Wiz10011`	`and it learns whatever one is first on that info + pane`
`14:59.47`	`Wiz10011`	`or do i need 2 different learn abilties, 1 for each ability?`
`14:59.51`	`BDmon`	`huh`
`15:00.00`	`BDmon`	`no there's one ability learn abilities`
`15:00.18`	`BDmon`	`for each ability u want u need to set them inthere`
`15:00.25`	`Wiz10011`	`Yea i know, i did that`
`15:00.31`	`BDmon`	`so learn 1 is force field, learn 2 is graviton bomb etc`
`15:00.57`	`Wiz10011`	`but where you set them, the Info +. it's listed by index, and it gives learn 1 (the first one) no matter what ability i pick`
`15:01.00`	`BDmon`	`then give that to the unit, and set the learn ability button to learn abilities and the one u want`
`15:01.09`	`Wiz10011`	`yep did all that`
`15:01.19`	`BDmon`	`i dont understand it gives learn1`
`15:01.25`	`BDmon`	`u set the ability to learn there`
`15:01.27`	`BDmon`	`at the bottom`
`15:01.47`	`Wiz10011`	`Yep.`
`15:03.01`	`BDmon`	`so what do u mean by 'gives learn 1 no matter what ability i pick'?`
`15:04.21`	`Wiz10011`	`Okay, i have 3 abilities right now, 1 a stimpack like ability, 2 a instant attack ability, and 3 a passive speed buff, but the Stimpack ability is number one (learn1). if i pick any of the three abilities while testing. it only gives the stimpack`
`15:05.02`	`Wiz10011`	`i tested it, if i changed the instant attack or speed buff to learn one, it only gives that ability instead.`
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`15:05.29`	`Wiz10011`	`I dont know if i missed something from that guide, or messed up on something. but most likely i got to start over anyway.`
`15:05.34`	`BDmon`	`well learn 1 should be stimpack, learn 2 speed buff etc`
`15:05.50`	`Wiz10011`	`yes but i would like the user to be able to choose between the three.`
`15:05.57`	`BDmon`	`then set the right ones at ur units command card`
`15:06.10`	`BDmon`	`yea that's possible`
`15:06.20`	`BDmon`	`i got 8 inthere and u can chose anyone`
`15:06.37`	`Wiz10011`	`and you followed Onetwo guide?`
`15:06.40`	`BDmon`	`yea`
`15:06.46`	`Wiz10011`	`Okay so i messed up somewhere.`
`15:06.49`	`BDmon`	`learn 1 first ability, learn 2 second`
`15:06.57`	`BDmon`	`then set the buttons to the right ability to learn`
`15:07.50`	`BDmon`	`the button should be command type ability command, ability: learn abilities, ability command: learn stimpack`
`15:08.09`	`BDmon`	`second the same except last change to speed buff`
`15:08.22`	`Wiz10011`	`ability should be learn?`
`15:08.54`	`BDmon`	`the ability is the learn ability ability`
`15:08.55`	`BDmon`	`:D`
`15:09.04`	`Wiz10011`	`that might be where i went wrong hold on let me test`
`15:10.27`	`nolliepoper`	`how to disable unit to move to in rage of target to cast an ability on him?`
`15:10.32`	`harl`	`wuff`
`15:10.45`	`nolliepoper`	`range*`
`15:11.17`	`BDmon`	`what do u want? that it doesnt move to get in range to attack?`
`15:11.24`	`harl`	`nods`
`15:11.30`	`BDmon`	`sup harl`
`15:11.34`	`J-Man_`	`hmmm... so i still can't figure out how to keep these critters from wandering`
`15:12.00`	`harl`	`something like you had in diablo 2, pressing shift or what to attack without having an actual target`
`15:12.02`	`BDmon`	`ill make a testmap see if i can figure it out :]`
`15:12.10`	`nolliepoper`	`yes BDmon`
`15:12.13`	`harl`	`i guess that's that nollie is looking for, or something like that`
`15:12.21`	`BDmon`	`well i guess just put the range huge?`
`15:12.26`	`nolliepoper`	`when I target the unit to attack he runs to get in range.`
`15:12.39`	`BDmon`	`oh isnt that the smart flag?`
`15:13.33`	`nolliepoper`	`the smart flag was already off.`
`15:13.41`	`Wiz10011`	`Yea that didnt work BDmon, it just started to act like command card 2 and teach the ability.`
`15:13.59`	`BDmon`	`oh u ment the use button`
`15:14.45`	`BDmon`	`well the use buttons should be just the abilities themselves`
`15:14.52`	`Wiz10011`	`No, the problem was teaching the ability`
`15:14.52`	`BDmon`	`they should be restricted by the learn abilities`
`15:15.03`	`Wiz10011`	`i didnt know you meant command card 2 before.`
`15:15.21`	`J-Man_`	`i guess whatever i just did worked`
`15:15.21`	`Wiz10011`	`anyway when i learn the ability it just picks the first ability for use.`
`15:15.25`	`J-Man_`	`he's not wandering now`
`15:15.35`	`BDmon`	`oh cool :] u dno how?`
`15:15.54`	`J-Man_`	`i just went through and duplicated all the unit - flags from marine`
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`15:16.06`	`BDmon`	`ah so one of the flags`
`15:16.10`	`BDmon`	`maybe turnable`
`15:16.21`	`J-Man_`	`it was turnable already`
`15:16.26`	`BDmon`	`yea`
`15:16.47`	`J-Man_`	`i think it might have been "cannot be clicked" or "cannot be highlighted"`
`15:16.47`	`BDmon`	`Wiz10011 when u start there's no use buttons right`
`15:16.55`	`Wiz10011`	`Correct`
`15:17.04`	`BDmon`	`then u learn say stimpack`
`15:17.09`	`BDmon`	`u get the stimpack use btn right`
`15:17.40`	`Wiz10011`	`yep, but let me double check to make sure i put it back correctly`
`15:17.48`	`BDmon`	`k`
`15:17.52`	`J-Man_`	`maybe the fidget thing did work`
`15:18.00`	`BDmon`	`looks like it`
`15:18.00`	`J-Man_`	`i'm not really sure what worked, but something did`
`15:19.46`	`Wiz10011`	`Okay i fixed my problem it seems. command card 2 was on the stimpack for both abilities guess i overlooked that, but now the button isnt showing up for use for the instant attack ability`
`15:20.20`	`BDmon`	`J-Man_ just checked and the fidget is the wandering`
`15:20.52`	`J-Man_`	`ok, maybe i didn't reinitiate the test after changing that or something`
`15:20.58`	`J-Man_`	`thanks much!`
`15:21.01`	`BDmon`	`np :]`
`15:21.07`	`BDmon`	`Wiz10011 which btn isnt showing`
`15:21.16`	`J-Man_`	`and my ursadak calf thanks you as well :)`
`15:21.21`	`Wiz10011`	`the instant attack button isnt showing up for use after i learn it`
`15:21.22`	`BDmon`	`:P`
`15:21.25`	`J-Man_`	`ugly thing that he is`
`15:21.49`	`BDmon`	`Wiz10011 check if the btn to use is the command that's also in ur learning abilities`
`15:22.43`	`J-Man_`	`wow, an ursadak calf with move speed 20 is hilarious`
`15:22.46`	`Wiz10011`	`it's the learn version of it.`
`15:23.27`	`BDmon`	`and the unit has that ability aswell right?`
`15:23.32`	`BDmon`	`in abilities +`
`15:23.39`	`Wiz10011`	`Yep`
`15:23.45`	`BDmon`	`otherwise u cant set it anyway`
`15:24.05`	`BDmon`	`well if there's something wrong with the ability the btn doesnt show up`
`15:24.09`	`BDmon`	`so did it work before?`
`15:24.13`	`Wiz10011`	`Yea`
`15:24.31`	`BDmon`	`then u dont learn the right one`
`15:25.56`	`Wiz10011`	`yea switching it in command card from the learn version to the normal one fixed it.`
`15:26.00`	`Wiz10011`	`Thanks Alot BDmon.`
`15:26.12`	`BDmon`	`ah cool`
`15:26.13`	`BDmon`	`np`
`15:26.19`	`BorgDragon\|Away`	`back in... who knows :P Time to setup the new comp monitor`
`15:26.26`	`BDmon`	`oh nice :]`
`15:26.29`	`BorgDragon`	`yep yep`
`15:26.34`	`BorgDragon`	`started raining on the way back, lol`
`15:26.37`	`Wiz10011`	`another question though. the instant attack is a copy of Snipe. i dont need behaviors for that right?`
`15:26.38`	`BorgDragon`	`TVs in the back of the truck`
`15:26.42`	`BorgDragon`	`I go " Oh fuck" lol`
`15:26.51`	`BDmon`	`haha`
`15:27.03`	`BorgDragon`	`then it stopped`
`15:27.10`	`BorgDragon`	`so +1 for me`
`15:27.12`	`BorgDragon`	`hehe`
`15:28.31`	`BDmon`	`Wiz10011 u need to change something with validators`
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`15:29.04`	`Wiz10011`	`oh yay i suck at validators.`
`15:29.47`	`A1win`	`what does "Source" refer to in validators?`
`15:32.12`	`BDmon`	`hmm not sure`
`15:32.20`	`BDmon`	`sounds about the same as player origin`
`15:32.25`	`BDmon`	`but might be the unit?`
`15:33.04`	`A1win`	`Caster, Outer, Source, Target, Unit Origin`
`15:33.08`	`A1win`	`those I mean`
`15:33.52`	`A1win`	`maybe I should do an effect that orders the unit to unburrow instead of using autocast...`
`15:34.18`	`BDmon`	`hmm could be`
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`15:36.30`	`A1win`	`but then I also need a behavior that does it.. mff`
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`15:37.02`	`Helral`	`meows`
`15:37.13`	`BDmon`	`pets Helral\|Work`
`15:37.22`	`Helral\|Work`	`bites the hand that pets him.`
`15:37.28`	`Helral\|Work`	`meows innocently`
`15:37.43`	`BDmon`	`takes of iron gloves`
`15:37.50`	`BDmon`	`nothing there, good`
`15:38.00`	`Helral\|Work`	`looks at dents in iron gloves made by his teeth.`
`15:38.39`	`Helral\|Work`	`meows`
`15:38.41`	`BDmon`	`close but not close enough`
`15:38.45`	`BDmon`	`brb`
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`15:39.02`	`Helral\|Work`	`has a dentist appointed with jaws dentist for better teeth :)`
`15:39.13`	`Helral\|Work`	`means appointment*`
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`15:39.53`	`Arthas-`	`That's right, our cat has bad teeth for the moment and they crumble once he try to take a piece of us. This is our chance to overthrow it!`
`15:40.05`	`Helral\|Work`	`meows`
`15:40.08`	`Arthas-`	`http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs092.ash2/37943_466819052136_643497136_5335729_8096227_n.jpg`
`15:40.11`	`Arthas-`	`DO WANT`
`15:40.12`	`Helral\|Work`	`shows his still perfect teeth.`
`15:40.34`	`Arthas-`	`O_o`
`15:40.38`	`Arthas-`	`hides again`
`15:40.48`	`Helral\|Work`	`wants teeth that can bite through iron gloves :)`
`15:41.35`	`Helral\|Work`	`how's it going Arthas-?`
`15:41.46`	`Arthas-`	`Great! :>`
`15:41.51`	`Helral\|Work`	`still dc'ing a lot?`
`15:42.05`	`Arthas-`	`Looks like it's been fine last 24h`
`15:42.13`	`Arthas-`	`if we dont count the manual dc`
`15:42.18`	`Helral\|Work`	`hmmmm lol`
`15:42.35`	`Arthas-`	`but I wouldnt bet on it :p`
`15:42.44`	`Helral\|Work`	`sends forth his mice minnions to chew through Arthas- lines.`
`15:42.51`	`Helral\|Work`	`meows innocently`
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`15:44.18`	`Helral\|Work`	`awaits the Arthas- Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)`
`15:44.28`	`Arthas-`	`is still successfully lurking`
`15:44.36`	`Arthas-`	`Jum-Jum`
`15:44.38`	`Arthas-`	`around?`
`15:44.47`	`Helral\|Work`	`chases Arthas- out of his lurking position.`
`15:44.52`	`Helral\|Work`	`meows`
`15:45.10`	`Arthas-`	`I wants to game`
`15:45.12`	`Arthas-`	`:<`
`15:45.21`	`Helral\|Work`	`you on eu or us?`
`15:45.48`	`Arthas-`	`eu`
`15:45.50`	`Helral\|Work`	`:)`
`15:45.56`	`Arthas-`	`arent you us? =O`
`15:45.57`	`Helral\|Work`	`too bad I'm at work ;p`
`15:46.00`	`Helral\|Work`	`nope eu`
`15:46.03`	`Arthas-`	`Well`
`15:46.07`	`Arthas-`	`You have my permission to go home`
`15:46.10`	`Helral\|Work`	`hahaha`
`15:46.16`	`Helral\|Work`	`too bad you're not my employer`
`15:46.31`	`Arthas-`	`I'll even offer you full payment for today even if you leave`
`15:46.35`	`Arthas-`	`You never know!`
`15:46.36`	`A1win`	`I'll ask this again: I have an Enumerate Area validator for unburrow autocast, and it successfully detects enemy units within radius of 5 of the unit, and doesn't do so if the enemy is invulnerable or dead (Exclude: Invulnerable, Dead) but I can't get it to check if the enemy is Required: Visible or Excluded: Cloaked, it just ignores those`
`15:47.04`	`Arthas-`	`Say, are you not working for 'Awesome Cellular Phonie Games, inc' ?`
`15:47.12`	`Helral\|Work`	`Required Visible should skip cloaked units that the player can't see.`
`15:47.42`	`A1win`	`hmm?`
`15:47.55`	`Helral\|Work`	`Arthas-: I'm not ;p`
`15:48.13`	`Arthas-`	`:\|`
`15:48.14`	`A1win`	`I mean if a cloaked enemy (which it can't see) is in the radius and I have Required: Visible, the validator still passes`
`15:48.25`	`Helral\|Work`	`A1win: I've made one that works correctly.`
`15:48.28`	`A1win`	`and even if I set Excluded: Cloaked, it still passes`
`15:48.35`	`Helral\|Work`	`I just can't remember where I placed it.`
`15:48.37`	`A1win`	`:x`
`15:48.42`	`Helral\|Work`	`could be that I uploaded it to the forums.`
`15:48.54`	`Arthas-`	`Helral\|Work how long til you end workie workie`
`15:48.56`	`Helral\|Work`	`it's some zerglings burrowing/unburrowing in sequence.`
`15:49.01`	`Helral\|Work`	`12 mins ;p`
`15:49.02`	`A1win`	`mmh`
`15:49.11`	`Helral\|Work`	`then I need to go home and do some shopping for food ;p`
`15:49.21`	`Arthas-`	`skip food`
`15:49.25`	`Arthas-`	`you've got water, right?`
`15:49.29`	`Arthas-`	`Thought so`
`15:49.33`	`Helral\|Work`	`I've skipped food too often :)`
`15:49.36`	`Arthas-`	`kk`
`15:49.43`	`Arthas-`	`ill go play secret of mana then :p`
`15:49.46`	`Helral\|Work`	`last week I had dinner 4 times orso :)`
`15:49.49`	`Arthas-`	`how long til you are home, have eaten etc`
`15:49.56`	`Arthas-`	`30, 60?`
`15:50.00`	`Arthas-`	`61!?`
`15:50.00`	`Helral\|Work`	`1 hour orso ;p`
`15:50.04`	`Arthas-`	`aight`
`15:50.09`	`Arthas-`	`ill be here in 70 mins :>`
`15:50.13`	`Helral\|Work`	`hehehe`
`15:50.42`	`A1win`	`I'm not even sure what all those fields in the validator do :\| what does the "Area - Compare" operator actually compare? :E`
`15:50.55`	`A1win`	`the "Areas - Count" value?`
`15:51.19`	`A1win`	`and then what's the "Count" value in the validator`
`15:51.38`	`A1win`	`I mean Search - Count`
`15:51.43`	`Helral\|Work`	`the min number of units to succeed :)`
`15:51.58`	`Helral\|Work`	`btw A1win you using a search area or some other area?`
`15:52.21`	`A1win`	`I think so? :E`
`15:52.28`	`Helral\|Work`	`lol`
`15:52.42`	`A1win`	`it's Enumerate Area type of validator :P`
`15:52.45`	`Helral\|Work`	`a or b? reply: I think so .... :)`
`15:52.56`	`A1win`	`hehe`
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`15:53.59`	`A1win`	`is there some other possibility? ._o`
`15:54.00`	`Slaydon`	`sup y'all?`
`15:54.18`	`Slaydon`	`hai Aleksi :>`
`15:54.24`	`Helral\|Work`	`A1win try searching for some post of mine I think I included the map on the sc2mapster forums somewhere.`
`15:54.41`	`BDmon`	`hi Slaydon`
`15:54.43`	`Helral\|Work`	`with that zergling unburrow/burrow depending on unit in range data.`
`15:54.53`	`A1win`	`mff`
`15:54.53`	`Slaydon`	`hai Big D`
`15:54.54`	`Helral\|Work`	`meows`
`15:55.00`	`Slaydon`	`mon`
`15:55.02`	`BDmon`	`:P`
`15:55.04`	`Slaydon`	`D:`
`15:55.16`	`Slaydon`	`D"e"mon oh snap!`
`15:55.29`	`Helral\|Work`	`meows questioningly`
`15:55.30`	`A1win`	`all I find with "helral zergling unburrow" search is the [Contest] Minigame thread`
`15:55.36`	`BDmon`	`hehe`
`15:55.38`	`Helral\|Work`	`lol`
`15:55.49`	`Helral\|Work`	`and with helral unburrow ?`
`15:55.57`	`A1win`	`same`
`15:56.02`	`Helral\|Work`	`hmmm`
`15:56.25`	`Helral\|Work`	`I didn't post it there, that's for certain :)`
`15:57.01`	`Helral\|Work`	`there I posted my racegame, some explosion dodging, some other stuff I made in 2 hours...`
`15:57.02`	`Slaydon`	`Guys, i forgot how those structs work again`
`15:57.07`	`Helral\|Work`	`Records ;p`
`15:57.22`	`Slaydon`	`i make an actor and i want it saved to a struct containing X and Y and Z values`
`15:57.28`	MindWorX`	`It's amazing seeing how ignorant people are`
`15:57.41`	`Helral\|Work`	`struct is a self defined variable type.`
`15:57.50`	`Slaydon`	`is it Struct and i call it block? and add fixed x, fixed y, fixed z?`
`15:57.52`	MindWorX`	`I think Mephs takes the first place of people that don't know shit about what they're talking about`
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`15:58.21`	MindWorX`	`I just reread the conversation between him and grim001, and it's really amazing how he can't seem to grasp the very basics of a compiler compiler`
`15:58.27`	`Helral\|Work`	`you using GUI or script?`
`15:58.35`	MindWorX`	`And how he deliberatly turns words around to try and suit his arguments`
`15:58.37`	`A1win`	`here's the validator: http://paste.sc2mapster.com/van8dk3lrhpxofej/`
`15:59.02`	`A1win`	`I have no experience about them so could be anything silly ;p`
`15:59.16`	MindWorX`	`And i thought his "clever" mail to blizzard would be the limit of his idiocy, but looking at that conversation, that's far from it`
`15:59.47`	`Slaydon`	`Helral, i use scrit`
`15:59.50`	`Helral\|Work`	`think that Search - Areas - Validator () need to contain the validator for the search area.`
`16:00.13`	`A1win`	`I've tried to put something there too but it hasn't worked so far`
`16:00.29`	`Helral\|Work`	`slaydon why not use a point value?`
`16:00.42`	`Helral\|Work`	`a point can contain 3 values: X, Y, Z`
`16:01.12`	`Slaydon`	`Helral, i got the following struct script atm: struct Block() { - fixed x,y,z (3 of them) }`
`16:01.22`	`Slaydon`	`Because i need to check for blocks over them later on`
`16:01.32`	`Helral\|Work`	`ok.`
`16:01.58`	`Slaydon`	`Do i need some "takes"?`
`16:02.08`	`Helral\|Work`	`then initiate a variable of the type Block and set the values with variable.x = ...`
`16:02.20`	`Helral\|Work`	`variable.y, and variable.z respectively.`
`16:02.34`	`A1win`	`which unit should the search area validator have? Souce, Target, Outer..?`
`16:02.36`	`Slaydon`	`i know that.`
`16:02.50`	`A1win`	`*Source`
`16:03.01`	`Slaydon`	`But i get a syntax for using struct Block() { - Variables - }`
`16:03.08`	`Helral\|Work`	`remove the ()`
`16:03.18`	`Helral\|Work`	`struct Block { - variables - }`
`16:03.27`	`Slaydon`	`aha`
`16:03.29`	`Helral\|Work`	`it isn't a function :)`
`16:04.22`	`Helral\|Work`	`A1win: I'll take a look at my validator when I get home`
`16:04.24`	`Helral\|Work`	`laters all`
`16:04.27`	`Slaydon`	`I need a return dont i?`
`16:04.31`	`Helral\|Work`	`nope`
`16:04.34`	`Helral\|Work`	`it isn't a function`
`16:04.43`	`A1win`	`mmh I added the search area validator and now the original validator has two values in each of the Areas - Compare, Areas - Count, Areas - Radius etc... is the other one for the search validator?`
`16:04.48`	`BDmon`	`later helral`
`16:04.50`	`Slaydon`	`Do i need global variables?`
`16:04.51`	`Slaydon`	`:\|`
`16:04.53`	`BDmon`	`if u get away that is`
`16:04.59`	`Slaydon`	`well c ya`
`16:05.17`	`Helral\|Work`	`Slaydon: struct Block {fixed x; fixed y; fixed z;}`
`16:05.43`	`Slaydon`	`helral last question`
`16:05.46`	`Helral\|Work`	`Slaydon: Block myblock; myblock.y=1.0; myblock.z=1.2; myblock.x=1.4;`
`16:05.49`	`Slaydon`	`It is supposed to be several lines?`
`16:05.58`	`Helral\|Work`	`can be ;P`
`16:06.35`	`Helral\|Work`	`every ; = new line if the ; isn't liked by sc2editor.`
`16:06.54`	`Helral\|Work`	`and also after the { and before the } can be placed new lines for readability.`
`16:07.02`	`Slaydon`	`still gives a syntax :\|`
`16:07.19`	`Helral\|Work`	`try making a record using the gui and compare.`
`16:07.22`	`Slaydon`	`Do i need some kind of end to the struct?`
`16:07.28`	`Slaydon`	`i will`
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`16:09.07`	`egod`	`http://www.livestream.com/tristramrpglivebyegodbout <---- Diablo: Tristram RPG developpement, live`
`16:09.14`	`Wiz10011`	`Yo question about a doodad.`
`16:09.42`	`Wiz10011`	`i have a doodad on the map that has a animation, is there a way to stop the animation and only play it when a unit is on top of it?`
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`16:10.20`	`BorgDragon`	`this is fucking siiiiiick`
`16:10.30`	`BorgDragon`	`<3 my 40 inch PC monitor`
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`16:12.19`	`BDmon`	`check the options in data editor for the doodad`
`16:12.20`	`BDmon`	`in actors`
`16:12.28`	`BDmon`	`hehe sweet :]`
`16:13.09`	`BDmon`	`egod = bot or ?`
`16:13.19`	`BDmon`	`ah no`
`16:13.20`	`BDmon`	`:D`
`16:13.23`	`BDmon`	`i see my own text nice`
`16:13.26`	`egod`	`..`
`16:13.28`	`Slaydon`	`sweet`
`16:13.48`	`BDmon`	`cool egod just checking :] but i dont hear sound`
`16:14.11`	`BDmon`	`k`
`16:14.14`	`egod`	`there no sound until i play the map lol`
`16:14.21`	`BDmon`	`:]`
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`16:16.04`	`BDmon`	`that's quick`
`16:16.18`	`Helral`	`:P`
`16:16.31`	`Helral`	`I'm postponing my shopping until I can park for free there....`
`16:16.54`	`Helral`	`the supermarket is open till 20:00 and payed parking till 18:00 ;p`
`16:17.10`	`BDmon`	`hehe smart`
`16:17.24`	`BDmon`	`btw i like ur dialog inventory system`
`16:17.35`	`BDmon`	`but is it easy to access for instance the equiped weapon slot?`
`16:17.37`	`BorgDragon`	`hey... if I should randomly say I cannot see, it's probably because my eyes exploded from looking at my 40 inch :P`
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`16:17.48`	`BDmon`	`lol borg`
`16:18.13`	`Wiz10011`	`well if you cant see, theres no point for you to have a 40 inch monitor, at that point can i have it?`
`16:18.24`	`BorgDragon`	`um... no`
`16:18.29`	`BorgDragon`	`I'll get Ocular Implants`
`16:18.30`	`Wiz10011`	`or you gonna have it around just to feel it?`
`16:18.32`	`BorgDragon`	`I'll become a Ghost`
`16:18.50`	`BDmon`	`use as a tray for tea`
`16:18.57`	`Wiz10011`	`"I may not be able to see but atleast i have a 40 inch monitor"`
`16:19.09`	`BorgDragon`	`I like that Idea BD`
`16:19.17`	`BDmon`	`show off to friends: its big!!!! right?`
`16:19.22`	`BorgDragon`	`TV Dinner Time!`
`16:19.27`	`BDmon`	`lol hf`
`16:19.37`	`BDmon`	`hi egod`
`16:19.55`	`BDmon`	`:P`
`16:19.56`	`Helral`	`A1win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJfYC5UuJW4`
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`16:20.21`	`BDmon`	`funky`
`16:21.29`	`Helral`	`hmmmm`
`16:21.42`	`Helral`	`ok it worked in beta but doesn't anymore....`
`16:21.56`	`Helral`	`I just reopend the map and the zerglings start killing eachother now ;p`
`16:22.22`	`BDmon`	`lol`
`16:22.34`	`BorgDragon`	`hey... I just realized something WEIRD`
`16:22.45`	`BorgDragon`	`my vid card is PURE Video HDMI`
`16:22.56`	`BorgDragon`	`and my speakers are off on my PC`
`16:22.56`	`Wiz10011`	`whats wierd about that?`
`16:23.01`	`BorgDragon`	`yet I am listening to my music on my TV...`
`16:23.20`	`BorgDragon`	`is this TV that awesome that it bypasses the Vid Only HDMI, unlike all the other TVs I tried previously...`
`16:23.27`	`BorgDragon`	`and I ain't even joking`
`16:23.47`	`Wiz10011`	`are you sure its video only HDMI?`
`16:23.48`	`BorgDragon`	`oh well, it works oddly enough`
`16:23.50`	`BorgDragon`	`yes`
`16:23.58`	`BorgDragon`	`I also have a 37inch HD TV`
`16:24.09`	`Wiz10011`	`Cool.`
`16:24.09`	`BorgDragon`	`and had my PC connected to it previously`
`16:24.14`	`BorgDragon`	`no sound through the TV`
`16:24.14`	`BDmon`	`it includes audio i think`
`16:24.23`	`BorgDragon`	`HDMI is supposed to include Audio`
`16:24.28`	`BorgDragon`	`DVI is actually pure video only`
`16:24.28`	`Wiz10011`	`HDMI does have audio`
`16:24.36`	`BorgDragon`	`but`
`16:24.43`	`BorgDragon`	`like I said, no other HD TVs i ever tried`
`16:24.47`	`BorgDragon`	`could pick up my sound`
`16:24.53`	`BorgDragon`	`I just thought I had a fuked up card or something`
`16:24.58`	`BorgDragon`	`so I just bought speakers`
`16:25.05`	`BorgDragon`	`and forgot about it`
`16:25.07`	`Wiz10011`	`could be your settings choosing what port to output to.`
`16:25.11`	`BorgDragon`	`nope`
`16:25.14`	`BorgDragon`	`I haven't changed anything`
`16:25.18`	`BorgDragon`	`except this Screen`
`16:25.33`	`BorgDragon`	`ahwell, now I get some good sound lol... instead of shitty little speakers`
`16:25.42`	`BDmon`	`Helral does your dialog inventory system have an easy way to access equiped weapon?`
`16:26.03`	`Wiz10011`	`maybe the monitor you had before was outputting the sound but the speakers didnt work so only way you had sound was if you plugged in something to the audio jack?`
`16:26.15`	`Wiz10011`	`just a guess though.`
`16:26.20`	`Helral`	`BDmon: how do you mean?`
`16:26.28`	`BDmon`	`so annoying there's an option to set a inventory slot equiped in the data editor, but no option to filter on it in triggers :(`
`16:26.33`	`BorgDragon`	`my 37inch HD TV outputs sound fine.`
`16:26.43`	`Wiz10011`	`then yea that's weird`
`16:26.45`	`BorgDragon`	`maybe, the input`
`16:26.47`	`BDmon`	`i need to find the weapon actualy equiped`
`16:26.53`	`BorgDragon`	`maybe the input for the HDMI sound`
`16:26.55`	`BorgDragon`	`on the TV was fucked`
`16:26.59`	`BorgDragon`	`but the vid went through fine?`
`16:27.01`	`BDmon`	`now i did it with custom value's but it sucks`
`16:27.04`	`Wiz10011`	`did you swith the ports?`
`16:27.09`	`Wiz10011`	`switch*`
`16:27.10`	`BorgDragon`	`No`
`16:27.19`	`Wiz10011`	`then i doubt it,`
`16:27.21`	`BorgDragon`	`I think my 37 only has 1 port`
`16:27.33`	`BorgDragon`	`it was bought 4 years ago`
`16:27.48`	`BorgDragon`	`ahwell, I'm over it`
`16:27.49`	`Wiz10011`	`i meant on the video card, do you still have the same port going to your TV as before?`
`16:27.56`	`BorgDragon`	`yes`
`16:28.03`	`Wiz10011`	`then yea its weird.`
`16:28.04`	`BorgDragon`	`same PC, same HDMI out(only the one on my card)`
`16:28.14`	`BorgDragon`	`hehe`
`16:28.16`	`BDmon`	`Helral: need to be able to access the weapon equiped via triggers so i can switch weapons`
`16:28.25`	`BorgDragon`	`Mystery Solved! wether it was solved or not, you hear!?`
`16:28.33`	`Helral`	`BDmon: it currently doesn't have anything like that. since it was build as a GUI replacement for the SC2Inventory.`
`16:28.37`	`Wiz10011`	`if it wasnt working before but its working now, the only thing that could of happen to change that was most likely either a software blocking it or wrong settings somewhere.`
`16:28.45`	`Wiz10011`	`Okay okay!`
`16:28.45`	`BDmon`	`Helral ah oke`
`16:28.50`	`BorgDragon`	`quite possibly, Wiz`
`16:28.57`	`BorgDragon`	`also, like I said... 4 year old 37 HD TV`
`16:28.59`	`BDmon`	`well i solved it but its abit annoying`
`16:29.00`	`Helral`	`BDmon: lemme see if you can easily retrieve it though.`
`16:29.01`	`BorgDragon`	`could be the culprit`
`16:29.05`	`Wiz10011`	`could be.`
`16:30.00`	`Helral`	`BDmon: hmmm I don't have any auto-equip possibilities at all it seems.`
`16:30.18`	`BDmon`	`hm`
`16:30.26`	`BDmon`	`well i solved it with custom values now`
`16:30.38`	`BDmon`	`but it sucks cos i can only have 1 weapon in the equipment container`
`16:30.40`	`Slaydon`	`Helrar, i solved it :D`
`16:30.46`	`A1win`	`Helral, got a chance to look for the burrow/unburrow stuff? :x`
`16:31.35`	`Helral`	`yeah. I linked a youtube movie that shows it working during beta.`
`16:31.39`	`Helral`	`but they broke it.`
`16:31.48`	`A1win`	`:X`
`16:33.33`	`A1win`	`my thing works otherwise just fine but it ignores the check whether the searched unit is visible or not`
`16:35.17`	`A1win`	`and my attempts to check if the unburrowing unit has greater than 75% life fails... tried the "Caster Life GT75 Percent" validator and some modifications of it but none are working`
`16:37.02`	`BDmon`	`u have something at auto cast validators?`
`16:37.03`	`A1win`	`maybe it's just something wrong with autocast... I also thought of using a behavior like Perdition Turret does, but I don't know enough about behaviors x\`
`16:37.07`	`A1win`	`yeah`
`16:37.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Kevin@149.169.209.240)`
`16:37.14`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ`
`16:37.19`	`BDmon`	`u got the target is cloacked there?`
`16:37.36`	`A1win`	`no, unburrow doesn't have a target`
`16:37.45`	`BDmon`	`oh true`
`16:38.13`	`A1win`	`I have Enumerate Area validator there, which is true if there are more than 0 enemy units within 5 range of the unburrowing unit`
`16:38.17`	`*** join/#sc2mapster vjeux (52e9ed5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.233.237.91)`
`16:38.17`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o vjeux] by ChanServ`
`16:38.32`	`A1win`	`and that works, except it doesn't recognize if the searched unit is visible or not`
`16:38.33`	`Sixen`	`ohai mr.vjeux`
`16:38.44`	`vjeux`	`hey Sixen`
`16:38.49`	`Slaydon`	`hai vol75!`
`16:38.52`	`Slaydon`	`hai kevin!`
`16:39.09`	`BDmon`	`hi there`
`16:39.11`	`Slaydon`	`oh, its Purple now`
`16:39.14`	`Slaydon`	`fine :\|`
`16:39.31`	`BDmon`	`hmm A1win if the validator works, you should be able to set cloacked there`
`16:39.33`	`BDmon`	`has to be`
`16:39.45`	`A1win`	`I did, and it just ignores it`
`16:40.07`	`A1win`	`stuff like Excluded: Invulnerable works, but not Excluded: Cloaked or Required: Visible`
`16:41.02`	`Helral`	`Excluded Invulnerable doesn't work for me....`
`16:41.11`	`A1win`	`._x`
`16:41.29`	`Slaydon`	`Hai sixen, wai so purple?`
`16:41.39`	`A1win`	`I specifically tested it by first entering the area with a vulnerable unit, it unburrowed, and then with invulnerable unit, and it didn't unburrow`
`16:42.22`	`Sixen`	`wut`
`16:42.24`	`Sixen`	`ur purpl`
`16:43.55`	`Slaydon`	`no u`
`16:43.59`	`A1win`	`err`
`16:44.04`	`Helral`	`hmmm mine doesn't even work with radius 0 for no enemies nearby...`
`16:44.15`	`A1win`	`Helral, now it doesn't unburrow even though I have Allowed: Invulnerable`
`16:44.16`	`Slaydon`	`whois yourself, Sixen`
`16:44.25`	`A1win`	`and I enter with invulnerable unit :P`
`16:44.36`	`A1win`	`so the search filter just fails completely`
`16:44.40`	`Sixen`	`What's purple? :O`
`16:44.41`	`BDmon`	`mine unburrow at start of map lol`
`16:44.46`	`Sixen`	`owut...`
`16:45.19`	`Slaydon`	`lolwat?`
`16:45.56`	`A1win`	`uff.. I'll make it from scratch again`
`16:47.23`	`Sixen`	`i'm pruple..`
`16:49.15`	`A1win`	`now mine is unburrowing constantly as well :P`
`16:49.25`	`BorgDragon`	`whats a good codec`
`16:49.28`	`BorgDragon`	`for compression?`
`16:49.32`	`BorgDragon`	`XVid or something?`
`16:49.41`	`BDmon`	`yea A1win dno how u get them to only unburrow near someone`
`16:50.10`	`A1win`	`mmf`
`16:50.31`	`A1win`	`I set the Validator - Compare operator to Equal To and it started working agin`
`16:50.35`	`A1win`	`again`
`16:50.39`	`A1win`	`now idea what that's even for :P`
`16:50.52`	`A1win`	`hmm`
`16:50.53`	`BorgDragon`	`equal to`
`16:50.58`	`BorgDragon`	`which validators?`
`16:51.04`	`A1win`	`I wonder if it's even unburrowing because of my validator...`
`16:51.40`	`A1win`	`I think the tactical AI is doing it instead :P`
`16:51.49`	`BorgDragon`	`remove the ai then :P`
`16:51.50`	`A1win`	`yep >_<`
`16:51.51`	`Arthas-`	`Helral`
`16:51.53`	`A1win`	`lulz`
`16:51.54`	`Arthas-`	`IT IS THAT TIME`
`16:52.16`	`A1win`	`so it only worked when my validator was returning false :P`
`16:52.24`	`A1win`	`because the AI was unburrowing it -.-`
`16:52.47`	`A1win`	`hmm`
`16:52.54`	`A1win`	`stupid AI :x`
`16:53.06`	`A1win`	`why does it unburrow a drone when I fly above it with an observer which the drone can't even see`
`16:53.14`	`BorgDragon`	`by default?`
`16:53.24`	`A1win`	`apparently`
`16:53.28`	`BorgDragon`	`or you mean with your version?`
`16:54.02`	`A1win`	`well my version just had autocast on with the validator which in this case didn't pass so it didn't auto cast so I suppose it does that by default`
`16:54.22`	`BorgDragon`	`hmm`
`16:54.25`	`Helral`	`hmmm the issue order itself ain't working :S`
`16:54.26`	`BorgDragon`	`anyone?`
`16:54.31`	`BorgDragon`	`good codec for compression?`
`16:54.35`	`A1win`	`Helral, what issue order?`
`16:54.37`	`Arthas-`	`Helral GAME TIME`
`16:54.41`	`Arthas-`	`Stop talking maps :\|`
`16:54.48`	`Helral`	`Issue Order burrow zergling`
`16:54.56`	`BorgDragon`	`is Burrow researched?`
`16:54.59`	`BorgDragon`	`....`
`16:55.04`	`BorgDragon`	`LOL`
`16:55.07`	`Helral`	`ow bloody hell`
`16:55.12`	`A1win`	`hehe`
`16:55.27`	`BorgDragon`	`anyone else think Burrow should be a T1 upgrade, like it was back in BW?`
`16:55.43`	`Arthas-`	`Burrow is OP`
`16:55.55`	`A1win`	`woo`
`16:55.58`	`A1win`	`I fixed it 8D`
`16:55.59`	`BorgDragon`	`only because they made roaches/infestors`
`16:56.03`	`BorgDragon`	`however`
`16:56.08`	`BorgDragon`	`make roaches unable to move underground`
`16:56.11`	`A1win`	`changed target from Caster Unit to Source Unit`
`16:56.16`	`BorgDragon`	`until Glial Reconstitution is upgraded`
`16:56.22`	`Helral`	`ok my burrow now works ;p`
`16:56.22`	`BorgDragon`	`FIXED`
`16:56.29`	`Helral`	`roflol.`
`16:56.37`	`Arthas-`	`Someone tell Helral to remove me from the ignore list :p`
`16:56.41`	`BorgDragon`	`Helral`
`16:56.47`	`BorgDragon`	`remove Arthas- from your ignore list :P`
`16:56.48`	`Helral`	`kills Arthas- with his claws`
`16:56.49`	`Helral`	`meows`
`16:56.51`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`16:56.54`	`Arthas-`	`ty BorgDragon!`
`16:56.54`	`Helral`	`:)`
`16:56.59`	`Arthas-`	`Burrow is no longer OP :>`
`16:57.02`	`BorgDragon`	`backs away slowly, tremlbing in fear`
`16:57.04`	`Arthas-`	`It's balanced`
`16:57.07`	`BorgDragon`	`DAMNIT`
`16:57.10`	`BorgDragon`	`that's the second time in 2 days`
`16:57.17`	`BorgDragon`	`I type Tremlbing instead of Trembling`
`16:57.17`	`A1win`	`woot`
`16:57.18`	`Helral`	`anyway. Arthas- I still need to do my food shopping.`
`16:57.24`	`A1win`	`my WHOLE THING works now ;3`
`16:57.34`	`Helral`	`was waiting for the parking to be free at the supermarket :)`
`16:57.36`	`Arthas-`	`meeeeeeh`
`16:57.36`	`BorgDragon`	`grats :P`
`16:57.39`	`A1win`	`just need to disable AI for the units I want to use this thing`
`16:57.39`	`Arthas-`	`ill go take a powernap then :p`
`16:57.47`	`Arthas-`	`ill be back in 1-2 h (hopefully)`
`16:57.54`	`Helral`	`lol`
`16:57.54`	`BorgDragon`	`CODEC, COMPRESSION, GOOD ONE?`
`16:57.59`	`BorgDragon`	`Don't make me use the 8ball`
`16:58.02`	`Helral`	`no idea BorgDragon.`
`16:58.08`	`Helral`	`ask Arthas- :P because he's bored.`
`16:58.14`	`BorgDragon`	`Arthas- !!!!!!!!!`
`16:58.16`	`BorgDragon`	`lol :P`
`16:58.20`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ingela (~Ingela@90-230-169-130-no35.tbcn.telia.com)`
`16:58.28`	`Arthas-`	`xvid? =p`
`16:58.33`	`BorgDragon`	`...`
`16:58.35`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`16:58.43`	`Helral`	`~8ball will BorgDragon ever find a good Codec?`
`16:58.43`	`purl`	`Sure. Yeah, exactly.`
`16:58.47`	`Helral`	`lol`
`16:58.52`	`BorgDragon`	`where at? I went to Xvix website and i download fucking... something useless ?`
`16:58.54`	`Helral`	`cya later`
`16:58.56`	`BorgDragon`	`no installer file or nothing`
`16:59.08`	`Arthas-`	`good question`
`16:59.50`	`BDmon`	`A1win how u disable that ai?`
`16:59.54`	`Arthas-`	`http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/xvid-guides.htm`
`16:59.55`	`Arthas-`	`id look there`
`16:59.59`	`Arthas-`	`or at doom9 in general`
`17:00.01`	`A1win`	`BDmon, it's disabled by default`
`17:00.02`	`Arthas-`	`anyways ive gotta run`
`17:00.03`	`A1win`	`if you didn't enable it`
`17:00.05`	`BorgDragon`	`oh shit`
`17:00.06`	`Arthas-`	`sleep*`
`17:00.07`	`BorgDragon`	`apparently`
`17:00.17`	`A1win`	`if you want to disable it per unit, use the Enable script control for unit action`
`17:00.19`	`BorgDragon`	`i went to the wrong XVid website`
`17:00.25`	`BorgDragon`	`LOL... wonder what virus I just downloaded...`
`17:00.33`	`BDmon`	`A1win well i put burrowed zerglings and they unburrow straight away`
`17:00.33`	`A1win`	`BDmon, you need to tweak the unburrow ability a bit if you want the autocast to work`
`17:00.47`	`BDmon`	`just want them to stay there :]`
`17:00.49`	`A1win`	`set Auto Cast Maximum to 1`
`17:00.54`	`BDmon`	`k`
`17:01.08`	`A1win`	`or well not sure if that's it`
`17:01.20`	`A1win`	`all my tests have been biased because of the AI :P`
`17:01.34`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Hey!`
`17:01.36`	`BDmon`	`:]`
`17:01.39`	`BDmon`	`hi Dustin\|Laptop`
`17:02.04`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Anyone well educated on TV's/Monitors?`
`17:02.06`	`A1win`	`yeah need to set that to 1`
`17:02.45`	`BDmon`	`not me Dustin\|Laptop`
`17:02.50`	`A1win`	`I think I'll script AI for everything instead of using the campaign AI`
`17:02.54`	`A1win`	`it just acts so randomly`
`17:02.57`	`A1win`	`I want full control :3`
`17:02.58`	`BDmon`	`h,,`
`17:03.00`	`BDmon`	`hmm`
`17:03.06`	`BDmon`	`so that's in the unburrow ability then`
`17:03.10`	`A1win`	`mm`
`17:03.19`	`A1win`	`Ability - Auto Cast Maximum`
`17:03.40`	`A1win`	`that's a bit weird though`
`17:03.41`	`A1win`	`._o`
`17:03.52`	`A1win`	`it's the maximum number of units that can be in the auto cast range`
`17:03.57`	`A1win`	`maybe it should be -1`
`17:04.31`	`BorgDragon`	`doom9.org doesn't load anything`
`17:04.44`	`BDmon`	`but that's really weird, cos default min is 1`
`17:04.46`	`A1win`	`yeah -1 works too`
`17:04.52`	`BDmon`	`but my zerglings unburrow straight away`
`17:04.56`	`A1win`	`hmm`
`17:04.59`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Icebane (d5423135@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.66.49.53)`
`17:05.04`	`BorgDragon`	`eh, nvm`
`17:05.07`	`BorgDragon`	`it works now`
`17:05.08`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`17:05.28`	`A1win`	`BDmon, it's different for drone apparently`
`17:05.37`	`A1win`	`min and range are both 0`
`17:05.44`	`BDmon`	`hmm`
`17:05.50`	`A1win`	`all I needed to set was maximum to -1, others as 0`
`17:05.52`	`BDmon`	`but u spawn them by trigger?`
`17:05.55`	`A1win`	`and it unburrows when the validator passes`
`17:06.02`	`A1win`	`the units?`
`17:06.06`	`A1win`	`it's placed in the map`
`17:06.06`	`BDmon`	`ye`
`17:06.07`	`BDmon`	`k`
`17:06.18`	`A1win`	`but it's not burrowed at first`
`17:06.24`	`A1win`	`I have burrow on auto cast too`
`17:06.57`	`A1win`	`but auto cast doesn't have a target, I guess it's always 1`
`17:07.01`	`A1win`	`err`
`17:07.03`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Westinghouse Digital 40" Class 1080p 60Hz LCD HDTV Only 300 bucks on black friday`
`17:07.06`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Im fucking stoked`
`17:07.07`	`A1win`	`I mean burrow/unburrow doesn't have a target`
`17:07.58`	`Haetmachene_`	`hey guys im looking for some help on a small test projrct`
`17:08.03`	`BorgDragon`	`nice Dustin`
`17:08.17`	`BDmon`	`hey Haetmachene_ what's up`
`17:08.22`	`BorgDragon`	`I just bought my Samsung 40in 1080 60hz LCD HDTV for 500`
`17:08.28`	`BorgDragon`	`I don't think we have black friday in canada`
`17:08.33`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`That sucks :(`
`17:08.38`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`So cheap to get stuff`
`17:08.41`	`BorgDragon`	`I'm not even sure WTF black friday is lol`
`17:08.47`	`Haetmachene_`	`ok, so im trying toget one model to attach to another`
`17:08.52`	`BorgDragon`	`Haet!`
`17:08.54`	`BorgDragon`	`I can help!`
`17:08.56`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`It's the day after Thanksgiving when all the stores have their Pre-Christmas huge ass sale`
`17:08.59`	`BorgDragon`	`i just solved that`
`17:09.00`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`17:09.04`	`BorgDragon`	`oh`
`17:09.05`	`BDmon`	`lol`
`17:09.09`	`BorgDragon`	`we have our Thanksgiving in October`
`17:09.13`	`BorgDragon`	`:P`
`17:09.21`	`Haetmachene_`	`i got it 90% donewhere one model spawns in tthe right placer but it will freeze in place`
`17:09.31`	`BDmon`	`i dont give thanks`
`17:09.32`	`BorgDragon`	`you spawning a unit`
`17:09.34`	`BorgDragon`	`??`
`17:09.36`	`BDmon`	`nor tanks for that matter`
`17:09.38`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Canadian Thanksgiving is a lie!`
`17:10.03`	`A1win`	`hmm... my caster health > 75% validator still doesn't work though`
`17:10.14`	`BorgDragon`	`hey!`
`17:10.16`	`BorgDragon`	`watch this!`
`17:10.17`	`BorgDragon`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvgGA1nHL7g`
`17:10.21`	`BorgDragon`	`my first upload to Youtube lol`
`17:10.24`	`BorgDragon`	`my sticky grenade`
`17:10.29`	`Haetmachene_`	`its kinda hard for me to explain`
`17:10.44`	`Haetmachene_`	`unless u know wow`
`17:11.01`	`A1win`	`oh, maybe because I wasn't even using it :P`
`17:11.06`	`BorgDragon`	`I know how, I would think`
`17:11.14`	`BorgDragon`	`originally I had my grenade attack`
`17:11.16`	`BorgDragon`	`spawn a grenade model`
`17:11.19`	`BorgDragon`	`and it worked`
`17:11.24`	`BorgDragon`	`except i couldn't get it to attach`
`17:11.34`	`BDmon`	`lol nice BorgDragon`
`17:11.36`	`Haetmachene_`	`like i got an orc unit and a shoulder armor model but the armor model does not follow the unit/stick to in'`
`17:11.43`	`BorgDragon`	`work around: Create an Actor Model; ModelAddition`
`17:11.55`	`BorgDragon`	`ModelAddition`
`17:11.58`	`A1win`	`wooot now it works 8D`
`17:12.05`	`BorgDragon`	`thx BDmon :P`
`17:12.13`	`BorgDragon`	`should be a few minutes more before it gets 720p`
`17:12.17`	`BorgDragon`	`... I think`
`17:12.18`	`BorgDragon`	`lol`
`17:12.23`	`BDmon`	`hehe`
`17:12.23`	`BorgDragon`	`it was only 360 before`
`17:12.26`	`BorgDragon`	`then 480`
`17:12.41`	`BorgDragon`	`woo 720p is up`
`17:12.43`	`Haetmachene_`	`i can link to the thread where i posted my trial by fire map if anyone wants to look at it`
`17:12.51`	`BDmon`	`Haetmachene_ the way the marines get their combat shield model added, is by hidding it at start and showing after`
`17:13.06`	`BDmon`	`after upgrade`
`17:13.13`	`Haetmachene_`	`yeah`
`17:13.23`	`BDmon`	`that's not what u want?`
`17:13.26`	`Haetmachene_`	`my unit has his from the start`
`17:13.33`	`BDmon`	`ah oke`
`17:13.47`	`Haetmachene_`	`but t5hey are seperate models`
`17:13.57`	`Haetmachene_`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/14834-custom-unit-model-animations-help-please/#p3`
`17:13.58`	`BDmon`	`they move seperate?`
`17:14.15`	`BDmon`	`actualy i think the marine just swaps the whole model`
`17:14.57`	`Haetmachene_`	`its like the uberlisk minus the linked objects dont attack they are there for asthetics`
`17:15.05`	`BDmon`	`i see`
`17:15.43`	`Haetmachene_`	`like if you want to try out the map`
`17:16.07`	`Haetmachene_`	`you will seemmy orc unit moves around while a shell is floating in mid air`
`17:16.10`	`Haetmachene_`	`i need to pee`
`17:16.13`	`Haetmachene_`	`>>`
`17:17.01`	`BDmon`	`well i read something about attachment points on models, and a way to attach stuff via the data editor, dno how though`
`17:17.28`	`BDmon`	`http://www.youtube.com/user/OneTwoSC#p/c/2FDA0A633DF34714/0/osAe6d0b5yM`
`17:18.46`	`BDmon`	`brb`
`17:20.10`	`A1win`	`so now... how do I make a validator which checks if an enemy player has vision to the unit?`
`17:20.36`	`Haetmachene_`	`yeah thats the uberlisk`
`17:20.59`	`Haetmachene_`	`but here, ill link u the tutorial im working with`
`17:21.02`	`Wiz10011`	`if a unit is recalled into a region is that still considered entering the region?`
`17:21.19`	`Haetmachene_`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/8926-data-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty/#posts`
`17:21.42`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Wiz10011, I think so`
`17:23.15`	`Haetmachene_`	`i guess a good test would be "if unit is in region, then kill said unit"`
`17:23.31`	`Wiz10011`	`good idea`
`17:23.37`	`BDmon`	`enters even :]`
`17:24.09`	`Wiz10011`	`but wouldnt that also kill the mothership?`
`17:24.21`	`Haetmachene_`	`dmon i linked the tutorial i tried using up there`
`17:24.29`	`BDmon`	`yea i see`
`17:24.33`	`Haetmachene_`	`its a test trigger`
`17:24.44`	`Wiz10011`	`but i need the mothership to do the recall?`
`17:24.52`	`Haetmachene_`	`if it dies yes its a part of the region`
`17:24.53`	`Wiz10011`	`nvm`
`17:25.07`	`Haetmachene_`	`if not, you gotta fix some stuff`
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`17:26.20`	`Haetmachene_`	`if you are trying to test something, sometimes you gotta do different thins to tet your hypothesis`
`17:26.21`	`BDmon`	`well the link i gave u is all i really know about attachements`
`17:26.31`	`Haetmachene_`	`ah i c]`
`17:26.35`	`BDmon`	`but seems u need to do something with those site operation actors`
`17:27.26`	`Haetmachene_`	`i plan on doing atleast 60 attachment actors in my main game'`
`17:27.42`	`Haetmachene_`	`caling upon 20 different characters`
`17:27.50`	`Haetmachene_`	`err...uniots`
`17:27.56`	`Haetmachene_`	`units*`
`17:28.07`	`BDmon`	`but did u use the site operation actors?`
`17:28.10`	`Haetmachene_`	`typing in bed with left hand is hard...`
`17:28.12`	`Wiz10011`	`yea it killed the mothership before it could do the recall for the test.`
`17:28.18`	`Haetmachene_`	`yes i did`
`17:28.29`	`BDmon`	`exclude the mothership`
`17:28.40`	`Wiz10011`	`and that would be done through conditions?`
`17:28.44`	`BDmon`	`yea`
`17:29.15`	`BDmon`	`unit > unit type of unit`
`17:29.19`	`BDmon`	`!= mothership`
`17:29.28`	`A1win`	`how do I tell a unit to unburrow when it takes damage? should I use a behavior or what?`
`17:29.31`	`Haetmachene_`	`i get the shoulder to spawn at the right hardpoint`
`17:29.52`	`A1win`	`or is that an actor event?`
`17:30.48`	`BDmon`	`A1win think that's also the validator no?`
`17:31.01`	`BDmon`	`or just put up a trigger`
`17:31.12`	`BDmon`	`unit takes damage, condition = burrowed`
`17:31.43`	`Haetmachene_`	`i love the map making potential of sc2 glaxy editor but its so frekkin hard to decipher`
`17:31.45`	`Haetmachene_`	`lol`
`17:31.58`	`BDmon`	`def the data editor`
`17:32.06`	`BDmon`	`can be very confusing`
`17:32.37`	`BDmon`	`A1win: condition: unit type classification check`
`17:33.19`	`Haetmachene_`	`sounds like you should look at hold position and hold fire commands, figure out ow they work, thenreportback`
`17:33.29`	`Wiz10011`	`okay yea it killed the units.`
`17:34.43`	`Haetmachene_`	`because thats what it seems the difference between, see enemy do nothing vs see enemy dont move only fire in range`
`17:34.50`	`BDmon`	`btw entering region is everything, create, spawn, unburrow recall etc`
`17:35.10`	`Haetmachene_`	`ok wiz that means oncev it enters region itdies`
`17:35.13`	`Wiz10011`	`yea only asked before because when it recalled the units it didnt follow the trigger to issue an order to them`
`17:35.24`	`Wiz10011`	`so taking a look.`
`17:35.24`	`A1win`	`BDmon, yeah I know how to do it with a trigger, was considering it too`
`17:35.41`	`A1win`	`and it's so simple that I'll just do it...`
`17:35.48`	`BDmon`	`ye why not`
`17:37.52`	`A1win`	`so now I have units that burrow when there are no enemies close to them, and unburrow when there's enemies close to them AND the burrowed unit has more than 75% health... and also unburrows when it takes damage`
`17:38.31`	`A1win`	`now I just need more validators to burrow auto cast to make them burrow when they are low on health.. at least roaches`
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`17:40.24`	`BorgDragon`	`alrighty.`
`17:40.51`	`Lilianna`	`Haetmachene_, Your problem with your shoulder attachment is you check hold positiona nd hold rotation`
`17:41.00`	`Lilianna`	`that makes it not move`
`17:41.04`	`BorgDragon`	`Sticky Grenade complete; Check. Uploaded video to YouTube; Check. Bought my 40inch Computer Monitor; Check. Bed time; unfortunately, Check. Cya.`
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`17:41.07`	`Haetmachene_`	`fffffff`
`17:41.15`	`Haetmachene_`	`thank you so much`
`17:41.32`	`Lilianna`	`You might want to make sure the model addition cant copy scale`
`17:41.42`	`Lilianna`	`because Im noticing as the orc moves the shoulder tends to grow`
`17:41.45`	`Lilianna`	`its kinda funny to watch`
`17:42.02`	`Haetmachene_`	`wait what?!`
`17:42.11`	`Haetmachene_`	`lol i didnt get that in my tests`
`17:42.15`	`BDmon`	`cay BorgDragon\|SLEEP`
`17:42.17`	`BDmon`	`cya`
`17:42.20`	`BorgDragon\|SLEEP`	`lol ya`
`17:42.33`	`Lilianna`	`Im sitting here watching the shoulder pad grow`
`17:42.34`	`Lilianna`	`its odd`
`17:42.37`	`Haetmachene_`	`thats what i get for staying up til 5 am working on this >.>`
`17:42.45`	`BDmon`	`haha`
`17:42.47`	`BDmon`	`nice effect`
`17:42.49`	`Haetmachene_`	`does it shrink back afterwards?`
`17:43.29`	`Lilianna`	`yah`
`17:43.39`	`Haetmachene_`	`im on the mapster vent server`
`17:43.51`	`Haetmachene_`	`voice chat prolly better for testing in game`
`17:44.05`	`Bounty`	`Hello everyone`
`17:44.06`	`Lilianna`	`Anyways yes, careful about checking boxes :)`
`17:44.06`	`Bounty`	`><`
`17:44.14`	`Lilianna`	`gotta get back to homework`
`17:44.16`	`Helral`	`meows`
`17:44.42`	`BDmon`	`hi Bounty`
`17:44.48`	`vhell\|wk`	`so if I wanted to place a trigger that will spawn a group of doodads in a certain area, what kind of tutorial should I follow first? :)`
`17:44.54`	`BDmon`	`oh the cat got food`
`17:45.24`	`Bounty`	`i dont think you can do that vhell`
`17:45.46`	`vhell\|wk`	`hmm, how about modifying the x/y coordinates`
`17:45.46`	`Bounty`	`Only thing you could do is hide/show doodads in region`
`17:45.49`	`vhell\|wk`	`yea`
`17:45.50`	`vhell\|wk`	`okayt`
`17:46.16`	`Bounty`	`Although`
`17:46.29`	`Bounty`	`There SHOULD be a trigger that creates a doodad`
`17:46.33`	`Bounty`	`idk why there isnt`
`17:46.39`	`BDmon`	`u can kill and remove them`
`17:46.50`	`Bounty`	`You but u cant create them`
`17:46.53`	`BDmon`	`dont see one to create`
`17:47.07`	`Bounty`	`Best you can do is show/hide them`
`17:47.12`	`Bounty`	`in the region you want`
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`17:49.09`	`Obatztrara`	`sup?! ;)`
`17:49.14`	`BDmon`	`hi Obatztrara`
`17:49.22`	`Obatztrara`	`rrrrrred`
`17:49.23`	`Obatztrara`	`hi.`
`17:49.44`	`Obatztrara`	`whats new?`
`17:50.08`	`BDmon`	`BorgDragon\|SLEEP's 40" monitor`
`17:50.23`	`Obatztrara`	`X_X nice`
`17:50.57`	`BDmon`	`:]`
`17:51.54`	`Obatztrara`	`I kinda need suggestions for a data problem that I have...`
`17:52.04`	`Helral`	`goes off to raid the refrigerator which has just been filled :)`
`17:52.10`	`Obatztrara`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/14889-personal-unit-value/`
`17:53.06`	`Haetmachene_`	`what do i do about the model scaling?`
`17:53.26`	`Haetmachene_`	`the bigger size is what im looking for, it gets smaller when it moves`
`17:53.57`	`Bounty`	`thats what she said?`
`17:54.12`	`Lilianna`	`I dont really know, Ive never seen something like that`
`17:54.18`	`Obatztrara`	`what gets smaller when you move? details :<`
`17:54.24`	`Haetmachene_`	`ive seen it in videos with other wow models`
`17:54.51`	`Lilianna`	`it could be an animation on the shoulder pad itself`
`17:55.11`	`BDmon`	`switch it with another model see if that still works`
`17:55.36`	`BDmon`	`or better check the animation first indeed`
`17:56.01`	`BDmon`	`Obatztrara: why not use triggers?`
`17:56.26`	`Obatztrara`	`personally whenever I see the slightest chance to do some with data I'd rather do that :D`
`17:56.31`	`Obatztrara`	`something*`
`17:56.49`	`BDmon`	`really`
`17:56.54`	`BDmon`	`im the opposite lol`
`17:57.00`	`Obatztrara`	`also, my map is sadly kinda trigger heavy already and I fear that it might be a problem on bnet.. :S`
`17:57.04`	`Obatztrara`	`ha ok`
`17:57.07`	`BDmon`	`data editor is so confusing at times, guess i just dont know enough about it yet`
`17:57.15`	`Obatztrara`	`it defintely is harder`
`17:57.19`	`BDmon`	`yea true that is my concern aswell`
`17:58.48`	`Wiz10011`	`Okay I need help with a trigger problem (assuming its a trigger problem), I have a trigger to spawn units, then wait 0.5 seconds then havea mothership recall those units. the units get recalled good, but they dont follow the next trigger to issue a attack order to a region.`
`17:59.11`	`Obatztrara`	`did you use (last created unit) at some point after waiting?`
`17:59.20`	`BDmon`	`Obatztrara u checked game ui data yet?`
`17:59.33`	`Obatztrara`	`no :o`
`17:59.34`	`Wiz10011`	`No i been using unit enters region (there's a region under the mothership)`
`17:59.55`	`BDmon`	`well me neither but seems something like data storage`
`18:00.04`	`Obatztrara`	`I'll take a look`
`18:00.31`	`Obatztrara`	`hmm maybe have it print some feedback to you? so you can see at least if the trigger works?`
`18:00.41`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DarkRevenant (~DarkReven@130.191.159.5)`
`18:00.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`well`
`18:00.58`	`Wiz10011`	`you talking about the debugging window?`
`18:01.07`	`BDmon`	`or just a ui / text message`
`18:01.11`	`Bounty`	`><`
`18:01.16`	`DarkRevenant`	`it took me three weeks but i finally finished bugfixing my physics engine`
`18:01.21`	`BDmon`	`but when is the second trigger being run?`
`18:01.25`	`BDmon`	`at enters region?`
`18:01.33`	`BDmon`	`hi DarkRevenant`
`18:01.38`	`Wiz10011`	`yea its being run`
`18:01.40`	`DarkRevenant`	`yo`
`18:01.41`	`Bounty`	`Is it true you have lagless WASD Rev?`
`18:01.44`	`Lilianna`	`Haetmachene_, hardpoint 12 doesnt seem to have the issue`
`18:01.44`	`Wiz10011`	`at the debugging window its showing Run.`
`18:01.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`as lagless as you can get`
`18:01.51`	`Lilianna`	`for some reason`
`18:01.52`	`Lilianna`	`o_o`
`18:01.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`it's surprisingly playable in an isometric setting`
`18:02.11`	`Haetmachene_`	`ok`
`18:02.11`	`Wiz10011`	`although it keeps running for the mothership which i had to remove the move so it didnt take the order.`
`18:02.19`	`Obatztrara`	`physics engine? sounds good...`
`18:02.19`	`Haetmachene_`	`im looking at the animations menu`
`18:02.23`	`Obatztrara`	`what do you use it for?`
`18:02.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`isometric shooter`
`18:02.34`	`Haetmachene_`	`and the animation for the shoulder model is attack 1h`
`18:02.40`	`DarkRevenant`	`isometric similar to top-down if you dont know`
`18:02.46`	`Obatztrara`	`nice :)`
`18:02.48`	`Haetmachene_`	`but when i go into the wowmodelviewer its called stand`
`18:02.52`	`Bounty`	`How would it work in Third Person View`
`18:02.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`i've gotten weaponswitching done even`
`18:03.00`	`Bounty`	`And do you ever plan on sharing it`
`18:03.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`and almost all of the interface is functional`
`18:03.04`	`Haetmachene_`	`im tried reloading the model into the editor and see how that goes`
`18:03.08`	`Lilianna`	`for some reason one of the animations scales hardpoint 4, which is odd`
`18:03.13`	`DarkRevenant`	`just have to do the spell interface and switching`
`18:03.15`	`BDmon`	`Wiz10011 the second trigger might be run before the units are recalled inthere`
`18:03.18`	`Lilianna`	`at least thats what it looks like to me`
`18:03.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`then i have to slog through the purchasing system`
`18:03.26`	`Obatztrara`	`Wiz maybe post your trigger somewhere, so we can take a look at it? seems like a small mistake somewhere`
`18:03.41`	`Wiz10011`	`i let it run a few times BDmon they dont move at all, the units just start to build up.`
`18:03.43`	`DarkRevenant`	`also bounty i'll release it when it's playable from start to finish`
`18:03.52`	`DarkRevenant`	`and victory conditions are coming in after everything else besides the content`
`18:03.53`	`Wiz10011`	`okay sure hold on Obatztrara putting in a exclude for the mothership`
`18:03.57`	`Bounty`	`I'm just talking about the WASD Rev lol`
`18:04.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`oh its pretty simple actually`
`18:04.10`	`BDmon`	`Wiz10011 what conditions does the trigger have`
`18:04.20`	`DarkRevenant`	`one trigger for all key down`
`18:04.21`	`Wiz10011`	`none before`
`18:04.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`one trigger for all key up`
`18:04.38`	`DarkRevenant`	`and a 1/32 timer for movement`
`18:04.40`	`BDmon`	`and its run on enter region?`
`18:04.42`	`Bounty`	`so less triggers = runs smoother?`
`18:04.50`	`DarkRevenant`	`movement starts immediately upon pushing the key`
`18:04.52`	`Bounty`	`bc i have a trigger for each key up and down`
`18:04.57`	`DarkRevenant`	`and movement stops immediately after letting down`
`18:05.01`	`DarkRevenant`	`yeah if you have multiple events`
`18:05.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`it will lag the network`
`18:05.10`	`DarkRevenant`	`and make it slower in general`
`18:05.29`	`BDmon`	`Rev is that with booleans? constant run unless = false?`
`18:05.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`well`
`18:05.29`	`Wiz10011`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:05.29`	`Wiz10011`	`blah`
`18:05.34`	`Obatztrara`	`:P`
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`18:05.43`	`DarkRevenant`	`Key Down`
`18:05.44`	`BDmon`	`Wiz10011 not inhere :P`
`18:05.44`	`DarkRevenant`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:05.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:05.48`	`Wiz10011`	`oh sorry`
`18:05.48`	`DarkRevenant`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:05.49`	`BDmon`	`oh well`
`18:05.50`	`DarkRevenant`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`18:05.54`	`BDmon`	`he's doing the same :D`
`18:05.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`18:06.03`	`Obatztrara`	`OMG >_>`
`18:06.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:06.24`	`DarkRevenant`	`mine is somewhat more complicated`
`18:06.24`	`Obatztrara`	`ha`
`18:06.26`	`DarkRevenant`	`since you can ALSO move`
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`18:06.28`	`BDmon`	`Wiz10011 just do any unit enters`
`18:06.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`by right clicking`
`18:06.37`	`doite`	`Hi guys!`
`18:06.39`	`Obatztrara`	`its Last created unit...so it works only for that one unit`
`18:06.41`	`BDmon`	`hi doite`
`18:06.44`	`doite`	`20 levels of my 30 are done! =)`
`18:06.49`	`Wiz10011`	`oh yea forgot to switch that before, it doesnt work with any unit either`
`18:06.52`	`doite`	`Hey BDmon`
`18:06.57`	`Bounty`	`I thought having seperate triggers for each key would be better?`
`18:06.58`	`doite`	`Hows it going with your project?`
`18:06.59`	`Obatztrara`	`aw.`
`18:07.00`	`BDmon`	`nice doite :]`
`18:07.18`	`BDmon`	`its alright just been busy helping others`
`18:07.19`	`BDmon`	`and learn :]`
`18:07.26`	`DarkRevenant`	`and then`
`18:07.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`Key Movement`
`18:07.31`	`DarkRevenant`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:07.32`	`Wiz10011`	`the trigger worked before i put in the recall trigger and mothership`
`18:07.33`	`DarkRevenant`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`18:07.38`	`Obatztrara`	`the trigger seems fine, sorry :s`
`18:07.39`	`DarkRevenant`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`18:07.56`	`Haetmachene_`	`do you think it could do with the model flags?`
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`18:08.10`	`Obatztrara`	`well maybe recall doesnt count as entering a region...weird but might be`
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`18:08.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`i truncated it but it should be enough to get the gist`
`18:08.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`i have that local there just because`
`18:08.30`	`DarkRevenant`	`it's easier than replacing all the lA with pPlayer`
`18:08.34`	`Wiz10011`	`talking to me Haetmachene? Obatztrara tried it ebfore with a kill trigger. and it killed the units`
`18:08.38`	`doite`	`... darkrevenant, how the hell do u copy that fast.. its really amazing`
`18:08.48`	`DarkRevenant`	`i selected the trigger`
`18:08.52`	`DarkRevenant`	`all so the lines i mean`
`18:08.53`	`Obatztrara`	`fucking weird man >;<`
`18:08.53`	`BDmon`	`nice`
`18:08.54`	`DarkRevenant`	`with shift and control`
`18:09.00`	`BDmon`	`doite its copy as text`
`18:09.02`	`DarkRevenant`	`left out a few of them`
`18:09.05`	`BDmon`	`the whole thing :)`
`18:09.15`	`doite`	`well i do that but when i do that it comes in one line`
`18:09.21`	`doite`	`And looks all .. fucked up`
`18:09.24`	`DarkRevenant`	`use a better irc client`
`18:09.26`	`Wiz10011`	`yea i know. like i said before. it worked before i had the idea instead of the units just showing up that they are recalled by a mothership.`
`18:09.28`	`BDmon`	`lol`
`18:09.30`	`DarkRevenant`	`i'm using chatZilla`
`18:09.32`	`doite`	`Not the webversion? =)`
`18:09.49`	`BDmon`	`Wiz10011 u tried any unit enters region and is not mothership?`
`18:09.53`	`BDmon`	`cos that should work`
`18:09.56`	`Wiz10011`	`Im using mIRC and i lets me copy all of my text into a different line.`
`18:09.58`	`BDmon`	`u just tested if they died`
`18:10.00`	`DarkRevenant`	`i get surprisingly low lag with my map`
`18:10.04`	`Obatztrara`	`hmmm maybe change it to issue order AFTER existing orders`
`18:10.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`especially considering that`
`18:10.16`	`DarkRevenant`	`it probably runs more legit triggers than any other map made yet`
`18:10.20`	`Wiz10011`	`nah i didnt actually BDmon`
`18:10.29`	`BDmon`	`well the trigger should be run as soon as the unit comes there`
`18:10.31`	`Wiz10011`	`i just put in the none mothership because the trigger kept running`
`18:10.33`	`BDmon`	`so shouldn't have other orders`
`18:10.48`	`DarkRevenant`	`with many players doing their thing it can get boggy though`
`18:10.51`	`Wiz10011`	`let me test real fast`
`18:10.53`	`DarkRevenant`	`but that's mainly due to the key commands`
`18:10.54`	`doite`	`Ah well.. For you pro creaters, would anyone be kind enough to test my map (Its quite hard) and probably very easy made, but im still in the learning`
`18:10.56`	`BDmon`	`DarkRevenant u got a test map up?`
`18:11.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`of course`
`18:11.08`	`DarkRevenant`	`but it's private`
`18:11.17`	`BDmon`	`ah k`
`18:11.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`my computer is really bad at college (i'm there right now)`
`18:11.22`	`BDmon`	`ah`
`18:11.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`i do my testing on the weekends when i'm actually home`
`18:11.32`	`DarkRevenant`	`but`
`18:11.38`	`DarkRevenant`	`if you want to try it out`
`18:11.40`	`DarkRevenant`	`i'll post a link`
`18:11.42`	`DarkRevenant`	`later`
`18:11.45`	`DarkRevenant`	`on irc`
`18:11.50`	`BDmon`	`cool im interested to see :]`
`18:11.54`	`DarkRevenant`	`actually`
`18:11.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`here's one now`
`18:12.07`	`doite`	`Any pictures?`
`18:12.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`http://comclan.co.cc/maps/Battle%20Mages%20Test%202.SC2Map`
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`18:12.34`	`BDmon`	`ah the whole map`
`18:12.37`	`DarkRevenant`	`im adding falling damage right now`
`18:12.42`	`DarkRevenant`	`also that space`
`18:12.43`	`Wiz10011`	`Yea still not working.`
`18:12.45`	`Wiz10011`	`its odd.`
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`18:12.51`	`DarkRevenant`	`maybe 400 KB is imports`
`18:13.05`	`doite`	`How many players are in it dark?`
`18:13.08`	`DarkRevenant`	`yeah there's 11KB of game data (data editor)`
`18:13.12`	`DarkRevenant`	`371 KB of terrain`
`18:13.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`11KB of text`
`18:13.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`and 1.05 MB (holy shit) of triggers`
`18:13.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`thats compressed`
`18:13.33`	`DarkRevenant`	`uncompressed is nearly 7MB`
`18:13.42`	`doite`	`Ok but dark how many players can play?`
`18:13.45`	`DarkRevenant`	`14`
`18:13.45`	`doite`	`Is it solo? or?`
`18:13.47`	`doite`	`14`
`18:13.49`	`doite`	`allright..`
`18:13.51`	`DarkRevenant`	`but until blizz fixes the control code`
`18:13.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`it will be extremely laggy at 14`
`18:14.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`because everyone's pushing buttons`
`18:14.16`	`doite`	`BDmon should we try it?`
`18:14.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`the physics system can handle all 14 players but when they're all doing stuff all the network usage goes through the roof`
`18:14.23`	`DarkRevenant`	`lagless with 3-4 players though`
`18:14.40`	`DarkRevenant`	`patchy with 6 or so, but that's only because i was playing with my college comp and one player was from New Zealand`
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`18:14.57`	`BDmon`	`lol`
`18:15.00`	`DarkRevenant`	`should be fine under normal conditions right now up to 6-8`
`18:15.00`	`BDmon`	`looks good`
`18:15.05`	`BDmon`	`bouncing rockets lol`
`18:15.11`	`DarkRevenant`	`10-14 might get bad before their changes`
`18:15.32`	`DarkRevenant`	`oh i forgot to mention`
`18:15.38`	`DarkRevenant`	`use the keyboard 0-9 keys`
`18:15.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`to switch weapons`
`18:15.43`	`Bounty`	`Did you use a periodic event for WASD Rev?`
`18:15.46`	`Bounty`	`Like to update it`
`18:15.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`i use a periodic event to call the movement function`
`18:16.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`but keypress also calls it`
`18:16.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`so it's immediate`
`18:16.10`	`Bounty`	`keypress?`
`18:16.14`	`Bounty`	`instead of Any Key?`
`18:16.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`oh its`
`18:16.24`	`DarkRevenant`	`just look at the map`
`18:16.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`the movement stuff is the most simple`
`18:16.48`	`DarkRevenant`	`i have a function that handles the movement`
`18:16.55`	`DarkRevenant`	`if you press the W key down, for example`
`18:16.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`it sets a boolean to true`
`18:17.02`	`DarkRevenant`	`and it also calls that function`
`18:17.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`so the order is immediate`
`18:17.16`	`DarkRevenant`	`that function is also called by a periodic`
`18:17.20`	`DarkRevenant`	`so you continue to move`
`18:17.23`	`C-H`	`thats how onetwo did it`
`18:17.31`	`DarkRevenant`	`it's the best way`
`18:17.43`	`DarkRevenant`	`lag and such come from`
`18:17.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`network load`
`18:17.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`if you have more than 1 event for each action`
`18:17.57`	`DarkRevenant`	`action being`
`18:17.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`Key Up`
`18:18.01`	`DarkRevenant`	`Key Down`
`18:18.02`	`A1win`	`mm... that's how I did it too without looking at how others did it :P`
`18:18.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`Click Up`
`18:18.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`Click Down`
`18:18.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`those are the only 4 events you should have`
`18:18.18`	`Bounty`	`Sounds like what i did for my abilities`
`18:18.19`	`Bounty`	`Like`
`18:18.20`	`DarkRevenant`	`each in a separate trigger`
`18:18.26`	`Bounty`	`I had a seperate trigger for each class`
`18:18.27`	`BDmon`	`im getting trigger errors when i hit another guy though`
`18:18.36`	`Bounty`	`but i just combined them all into one trigger`
`18:18.39`	`Bounty`	`and it checks your class`
`18:18.43`	`Bounty`	`and fires the proper fuction`
`18:18.53`	`DarkRevenant`	`never have more than one trigger for your key-related stuff`
`18:19.00`	`DarkRevenant`	`one for any key up`
`18:19.02`	`DarkRevenant`	`one for any key down`
`18:19.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`that's it, forever`
`18:19.12`	`DarkRevenant`	`otherwise you're losing performance, big time`
`18:19.30`	`A1win`	`why so?`
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`18:19.33`	`DarkRevenant`	`otherwise`
`18:19.39`	`doite`	`Wow`
`18:19.40`	`DarkRevenant`	`it sends two network messages`
`18:19.41`	`doite`	`Really cool`
`18:19.42`	`DarkRevenant`	`per keystroke`
`18:19.43`	`DarkRevenant`	`instead of one`
`18:19.50`	`doite`	`Well done Dark!`
`18:19.54`	`A1win`	`really? O.o`
`18:20.00`	`DarkRevenant`	`interface doesnt have art yet`
`18:20.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`except for the numbers`
`18:20.07`	`BDmon`	`lol the rocket goes down with the terrain :P`
`18:20.08`	`doite`	`Understood that`
`18:20.14`	`doite`	`Love the granades`
`18:20.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`it's a physics system`
`18:20.16`	`doite`	`Bouncing`
`18:20.17`	`doite`	`=)`
`18:20.17`	`A1win`	`oh well I'm not using key press events anyway, just curious :x`
`18:20.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`it has projectile-projectile collision`
`18:20.28`	`doite`	`Will it be in 3d mode?`
`18:20.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`and collision responses`
`18:20.35`	`DarkRevenant`	`kinda like billiards level physics`
`18:20.37`	`DarkRevenant`	`without the spin`
`18:20.44`	`DarkRevenant`	`im not making a TPS or FPS`
`18:20.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`this is isometric`
`18:20.54`	`DarkRevenant`	`but the physics system can work with TPS/FPS`
`18:20.57`	`doite`	`Well i like it`
`18:20.57`	`DarkRevenant`	`if you adapt it`
`18:21.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`it's highly customized though and hard to work with if you didnt make it`
`18:21.08`	`DarkRevenant`	`i made no documentation`
`18:21.09`	`BDmon`	`Rev u mean 1 trigger for all key presses?`
`18:21.12`	`DarkRevenant`	`yep`
`18:21.31`	`DarkRevenant`	`it would be better if my system had rotation matrices`
`18:21.33`	`doite`	`Adapt.. dude im a freakin noob at making maps`
`18:21.35`	`DarkRevenant`	`and full orientation and such`
`18:21.37`	`BDmon`	`cool`
`18:21.39`	`doite`	`I still make survival`
`18:21.44`	`DarkRevenant`	`but that's not needed for a iso shooter`
`18:22.03`	`doite`	`Only one thing though`
`18:22.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`it's kinda specially adapted for my map`
`18:22.32`	`doite`	`Im as i said, a noob, but is it possible to make so when u shoot u can also spin (to aim somewhere else then just infront of u?)`
`18:22.38`	`doite`	`Or is that the point of it?`
`18:22.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`well`
`18:22.51`	`DarkRevenant`	`you can move while shooting`
`18:22.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`if you do a rather complicated setup like mine`
`18:23.00`	`BDmon`	`sliiiide :]`
`18:23.01`	`DarkRevenant`	`each player is actually two units`
`18:23.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`one is the business end`
`18:23.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`another is the actual art`
`18:23.16`	`DarkRevenant`	`i will need to make a couple models for the player`
`18:23.20`	`BDmon`	`the gun detaches if u shoot standing still`
`18:23.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`one legs, one torso`
`18:23.32`	`DarkRevenant`	`yeah it's a problem with the m3 exporter`
`18:23.35`	`BDmon`	`ah`
`18:23.38`	`DarkRevenant`	`attachments dont export right`
`18:23.47`	`BDmon`	`bleh`
`18:23.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`i cant really finish the map until the blizz art tools come out`
`18:23.54`	`doite`	`How the hell did u guys learn to create stuff like this`
`18:23.56`	`doite`	`Its amazing`
`18:23.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`since otherwise the model will always be fuckedu p`
`18:24.18`	`DarkRevenant`	`i'm a computer engineering major`
`18:24.20`	`DarkRevenant`	`first year`
`18:24.22`	`BDmon`	`yep when are they coming with that stuff`
`18:24.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`but my experience doesnt come from college`
`18:24.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`rather from... experience`
`18:24.33`	`DarkRevenant`	`i have done modding for a long, long time`
`18:24.46`	`doite`	`Well gj anyway!`
`18:24.47`	`DarkRevenant`	`keep doing it, you will get good at it`
`18:24.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`no matter what`
`18:25.29`	`doite`	`Well with a master of corporate finance (Economics) in the run i dont really have the time that i would like to`
`18:25.52`	`doite`	`But someday, when im rich and have my sexslaves all gathered up, i will get as good as you=)`
`18:26.06`	`BDmon`	`lol`
`18:26.20`	`DarkRevenant`	`if you have sexslavesd`
`18:26.23`	`DarkRevenant`	`and a bunch of money`
`18:26.26`	`DarkRevenant`	`you dont NEED to mod`
`18:26.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`you can PAY someone to do it for you`
`18:26.32`	`DarkRevenant`	`exactly how you like`
`18:26.32`	`doite`	`=(`
`18:26.35`	`doite`	`Whats the fun with that`
`18:26.38`	`DarkRevenant`	`i.e. commission and contracts`
`18:26.42`	`DarkRevenant`	`you can work with them, of course`
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`18:26.53`	`doite`	`LIKE FACEBOOK!`
`18:27.09`	`doite`	`I can start my own non profit modding business!`
`18:27.20`	`DarkRevenant`	`good luck with that`
`18:27.23`	`DarkRevenant`	`modding requires a game`
`18:27.30`	`DarkRevenant`	`games are copyrighted`
`18:27.34`	`doite`	`Well i said i would be rich right?`
`18:27.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`and making profit off of a mod`
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`18:27.39`	`DarkRevenant`	`would get that company`
`18:27.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`very very pissed`
`18:27.41`	`doite`	`I buy blizzard obviously`
`18:27.51`	`DarkRevenant`	`you'd have to be more than just rich to buy activision`
`18:27.54`	`doite`	`Just worth 5 billion`
`18:28.22`	`DarkRevenant`	`that's like buying the state of wisconsin or some shit`
`18:28.37`	`doite`	`Well wouldnt want that do we`
`18:28.54`	`doite`	`And Wisconsin is probably worth less then blizzard=)`
`18:29.05`	`BDmon`	`lol`
`18:29.51`	`doite`	`Blizzard actually have a yearly income that could be compared to some countries yearly GNP!`
`18:29.58`	`doite`	`Quite impressive..`
`18:30.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`thats because blizzard is in america`
`18:30.32`	`doite`	`Overconsumption?`
`18:30.38`	`DarkRevenant`	`corporations need an existing economy to work`
`18:30.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`the stronger the economy they're based in`
`18:30.52`	`DarkRevenant`	`the better off the company is`
`18:30.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`in the world perspective`
`18:31.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`that's just obvious, though`
`18:31.13`	`DarkRevenant`	`but if blizzard was based in lebanon i dont think they'd be very successful`
`18:32.30`	`BDmon`	`hmm maybe less tax there`
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`18:33.07`	`doite`	`Actually... Not to go in to something else then what the forum is about, but americans economy isnt very strong.. Quite the opposite. Take a man going to a bank with a total amount of 100 dollors. This man has now a capital of .. obviously 100. Now if he leverage himself to 1000.000, Is his fortune (spelling?) 1000.100? No.. Its still 100..`
`18:33.41`	`doite`	`America has a couple of billions in capital, but its also the worlds most (BY FAAAAR!) leverage countries`
`18:33.53`	`doite`	`The problem wasnt so bad 5 years ago`
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`18:34.34`	`doite`	`But today, with the overconsumption+ the .. product making in OTHER countries, its not so well.`
`18:35.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`america`
`18:35.11`	`DarkRevenant`	`has an awful lot of people`
`18:35.15`	`doite`	`I would give america ... 5-10 years before they find themselfs in ANOTHER crises. And this one wont be as simple as a normal one`
`18:35.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`with an awful lot of spending money`
`18:35.27`	`doite`	`Thats becouse they dont save`
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`18:35.33`	`DarkRevenant`	`also america has a crisis every 20 years anyway`
`18:36.13`	`Haetmachene_`	`ok`
`18:36.13`	`doite`	`The world has crisis every --30 years, yes, but im talking about a country crisis`
`18:36.14`	`Haetmachene_`	`so i got my models to attach correctly`
`18:36.18`	`Haetmachene_`	`i switched the hardpoints`
`18:36.31`	`progammer`	`i have crisis everyday`
`18:36.31`	`Haetmachene_`	`but the attached models are darker then nigerian babies`
`18:36.31`	`A1win`	`mmh... how would I go about making it so that when a unit unburrows, it also unburrows all its friends in within a radius, but those units won't trigger this event anymore?`
`18:36.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`w/e`
`18:36.43`	`Haetmachene_`	`can anyone help?`
`18:36.45`	`BDmon`	`lol A1win`
`18:36.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`this isn't a conversation i'm particularly interested in`
`18:36.51`	`BDmon`	`i mean Haetmachene_`
`18:36.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`irc isn't rod's Debates`
`18:37.11`	`DarkRevenant`	`now i just need to guess`
`18:37.16`	`DarkRevenant`	`what score i got in discrete math test`
`18:37.28`	`DarkRevenant`	`taking all bets`
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`18:37.33`	`DarkRevenant`	`its out of 150`
`18:37.35`	`progammer`	`discrete math are easy`
`18:37.39`	`Haetmachene_`	`but i think liliana would be pleased the shoulders dont resize anymore`
`18:37.42`	`progammer`	`as pi`
`18:37.52`	`DarkRevenant`	`previous score was 135 from an unfortunate accident`
`18:37.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`score before that was 165`
`18:37.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`out of 150, yes`
`18:38.13`	`doite`	`.. No idea what these scores tells me`
`18:38.15`	`BDmon`	`well 180 then at least`
`18:38.18`	`doite`	`But i guess im happy for you`
`18:38.24`	`Haetmachene_`	`can anyone solve my "nigerian baby" crisis?`
`18:38.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`165/160 and 135/150`
`18:38.28`	`DarkRevenant`	`what shall be next one?`
`18:38.37`	`DarkRevenant`	`whoops 165/150*`
`18:38.52`	`DarkRevenant`	`discrete math is pretty lol easy`
`18:39.11`	`DarkRevenant`	`no E/C on this test though so max really is 150`
`18:39.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`180 is just imposible`
`18:39.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`you lose`
`18:39.30`	`progammer`	`only the one who dont like it in the first place cant get through`
`18:39.43`	`doite`	`I really have no idea what your talking about`
`18:39.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`test scores`
`18:39.54`	`doite`	`Yes i know that`
`18:40.00`	`doite`	`But whats the max amount`
`18:40.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`150`
`18:40.07`	`BDmon`	`i did the test and u can bet his score`
`18:40.07`	`progammer`	`doite: sometimes he just talk to himself on the channel :P`
`18:40.26`	`doite`	`Well i did a test aswell =)`
`18:40.29`	`doite`	`2 is max=(`
`18:40.38`	`BDmon`	`lol`
`18:40.38`	`DarkRevenant`	`YOU GET AN A`
`18:40.40`	`DarkRevenant`	`YOU GET AN F`
`18:40.41`	`BDmon`	`haha`
`18:40.45`	`BDmon`	`brb`
`18:40.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`OR YOU GET AN EVEN WORSE F`
`18:40.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`THOSE ARE YOUR ONLY OPTIONS`
`18:41.02`	`doite`	`..`
`18:41.03`	`doite`	`Ok`
`18:41.09`	`DarkRevenant`	`a test worth 2 points`
`18:41.12`	`DarkRevenant`	`lol`
`18:41.20`	`doite`	`Well.. we dont have "F" but i do understand your point`
`18:41.22`	`progammer`	`the highest grade on CS course should be C++`
`18:41.32`	`progammer`	`followed by C`
`18:41.33`	`DarkRevenant`	`no, should be C#`
`18:41.58`	`doite`	`We recieve IG, G, VG And MVG as scores.. the first one being fail`
`18:42.26`	`doite`	`Actually we cant recieve MVG at the university.. only VG`
`18:42.33`	`DarkRevenant`	`what the crap`
`18:42.35`	`DarkRevenant`	`only 3 grades?`
`18:42.41`	`doite`	`No`
`18:42.48`	`doite`	`Its IG--`
`18:42.50`	`doite`	`Ig-`
`18:42.51`	`doite`	`Ig`
`18:42.52`	`doite`	`Ig+`
`18:42.54`	`doite`	`and so on`
`18:42.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`a`
`18:43.01`	`DarkRevenant`	`double minus`
`18:43.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`wat`
`18:43.27`	`doite`	`=) IG is just IG.. (Fail as fail) But Take G instead`
`18:43.36`	`doite`	`"Pass"`
`18:43.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`i suppose`
`18:43.53`	`DarkRevenant`	`it has better range than other graduate programs`
`18:43.57`	`DarkRevenant`	`where your scores are A`
`18:43.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`average`
`18:44.01`	`DarkRevenant`	`A- pass`
`18:44.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`B+ barely making it by`
`18:44.08`	`DarkRevenant`	`B fail`
`18:44.18`	`DarkRevenant`	`B- through F are just various degrees of ultra failure`
`18:44.26`	`doite`	`=(`
`18:44.36`	`doite`	`Ok .. this is really out of subject now!`
`18:44.53`	`doite`	`Could anyone from europe help me test my map`
`18:45.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`hmm`
`18:45.12`	`DarkRevenant`	`i have to do a semester abroad`
`18:45.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`or at least some kind of`
`18:45.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`study abroad`
`18:45.24`	`DarkRevenant`	`i'm thinking of germany`
`18:45.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`since i know german`
`18:45.30`	`doite`	`=(`
`18:45.31`	`DarkRevenant`	`wherein should i go`
`18:45.43`	`doite`	`Depends on what you want to study`
`18:45.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`comp engineering`
`18:45.58`	`doite`	`Germany is good`
`18:47.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`brb`
`18:47.49`	`doite`	`DBmon, would it be possible if you helped me try my map?`
`18:54.32`	`BDmon`	`yea m8`
`18:54.37`	`BDmon`	`hold on`
`18:54.41`	`doite`	`Thanks`
`18:56.24`	`BDmon`	`im there`
`18:56.36`	`doite`	`k logging in`
`18:57.09`	`BDmon`	`btw i cant find highlights in mirc anymore :\|`
`18:57.25`	`doite`	`add me`
`18:57.42`	`A1win`	`BDmon, they're in "address book", logically :x`
`18:57.49`	`BDmon`	`oh nice`
`18:57.53`	`BDmon`	`ty`
`18:58.54`	`Haetmachene_`	`LOOK, IM SORRY I OFFENDED ALL THE NIGERIANS IN HERE`
`18:59.06`	`Haetmachene_`	`but i need some help (and also sry caplocks)`
`19:01.36`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`BDmon`
`19:01.48`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`nm A1win answered you`
`19:03.05`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DarkRevenant (~DarkReven@130.191.179.179)`
`19:03.11`	`Wiz10011`	`http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1021053442 if anyone wants to try and help me isolate my trigger problem.`
`19:05.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`to my surprise`
`19:05.12`	`DarkRevenant`	`my discrete professor cant do arithmetic`
`19:05.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`he gives us 170 points worth of problems for a 150 point test`
`19:05.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`so he has to shave off 10 from one of the problems`
`19:05.39`	`DarkRevenant`	`and give the other 10 as extra credit`
`19:05.47`	`DarkRevenant`	`so i got 150/150 despite losing 10 points`
`19:09.29`	`*** join/#sc2mapster newbie (~kvirc@tx-71-52-73-170.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)`
`19:09.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`hey newbie`
`19:10.01`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`hi`
`19:10.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`woah`
`19:10.14`	`DarkRevenant`	`someone completely different`
`19:10.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`responds`
`19:10.25`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`lol`
`19:10.35`	`DarkRevenant`	`at least Vail didn't respond to newbie`
`19:10.37`	`DarkRevenant`	`but you did :/`
`19:11.41`	`Vail`	`gir`
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`19:14.19`	`Vail`	`this makes no sense as far as i can tell this should be working,`
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`19:18.28`	`DarkRevenant`	`what`
`19:19.54`	`Helral`	`DarkRevenant: was he a math teacher?`
`19:20.51`	`DarkRevenant`	`discrete math`
`19:20.53`	`DarkRevenant`	`yeah`
`19:21.44`	`Vail`	`any one know of a validator that tests if something is underconstruction`
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`19:24.51`	`J-Man_`	`players still have colors if you're testing a map, right?`
`19:25.13`	`DarkRevenant`	`Random race`
`19:25.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`Set color`
`19:25.18`	`DarkRevenant`	`usually`
`19:26.09`	`J-Man_`	`see if that makes a difference`
`19:26.25`	`J-Man_`	`i'm still jsut getting white`
`19:26.32`	`J-Man_`	`i'm trying to set some text to the player's color`
`19:26.37`	`Vail`	`does any one know how the condition validator works?`
`19:27.33`	`BDmon`	`J-Man_ click the button at the minimap`
`19:27.36`	`BDmon`	`ull see colors`
`19:27.51`	`J-Man_`	`i see colors`
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`19:27.55`	`J-Man_`	`i need my text to be that color`
`19:27.56`	`BDmon`	`oh`
`19:28.06`	`BDmon`	`aha`
`19:28.06`	`J-Man_`	`and it's just coming out white`
`19:28.22`	`J-Man_`	`is it defualt or currrent, or does it matter?`
`19:28.22`	`BDmon`	`triggers?`
`19:28.26`	`J-Man_`	`triggers`
`19:28.35`	`BDmon`	`should be an option to set colors there`
`19:28.45`	`J-Man_`	`i though my style was getting in the way, but i disabled that, and i'm still jsut getting white`
`19:28.49`	`J-Man_`	`there is`
`19:29.00`	`BDmon`	`did u hit apply color?`
`19:29.01`	`BDmon`	`:)`
`19:29.14`	`J-Man_`	`it's a dialog item`
`19:29.19`	`BDmon`	`oh`
`19:29.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`you want`
`19:29.36`	`J-Man_`	`so i'm setting it in a paramter`
`19:29.39`	`DarkRevenant`	`your dialog text color`
`19:29.43`	`DarkRevenant`	`to be your player color`
`19:29.45`	`DarkRevenant`	`?`
`19:29.46`	`J-Man_`	`yeah`
`19:29.47`	`DarkRevenant`	`or what`
`19:29.57`	`DarkRevenant`	`okay you need the trigger`
`19:29.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`er`
`19:30.00`	`J-Man_`	`exactly that`
`19:30.00`	`DarkRevenant`	`function`
`19:30.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`something like`
`19:30.08`	`DarkRevenant`	`apply color to text`
`19:30.13`	`DarkRevenant`	`there's one like that`
`19:30.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`let me chekc`
`19:30.39`	`J-Man_`	`there's "Set Dialog Item Color"`
`19:30.52`	`J-Man_`	`and there's the option to select a color when you create the label dialog item`
`19:30.57`	`J-Man_`	`i've tried both`
`19:31.20`	`BDmon`	`think u need text color though`
`19:31.47`	`DarkRevenant`	`jman`
`19:31.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`dialog item color`
`19:31.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`is for images`
`19:32.02`	`J-Man_`	`ok`
`19:32.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`the text itself needs color`
`19:32.08`	`DarkRevenant`	`you apply color to that text`
`19:32.16`	`DarkRevenant`	`there's a function for color by index`
`19:32.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`the index is the player`
`19:32.38`	`J-Man_`	`there's Convert Player Color to Color`
`19:33.02`	`J-Man_`	`i actually want to apply a style and a color, if it's even possible`
`19:33.13`	`J-Man_`	`the sytle i've got working (but disabled for the moment)`
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`19:33.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`you need`
`19:33.55`	`DarkRevenant`	`concentrate strings`
`19:34.00`	`J-Man_`	`ok`
`19:34.13`	`J-Man_`	`what is the tag for style? it's not inserting it`
`19:34.14`	`DarkRevenant`	`actually i think`
`19:34.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`no`
`19:34.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`yeah you dont need that`
`19:34.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`ugh`
`19:34.43`	`DarkRevenant`	`wait a sec`
`19:34.47`	`J-Man_`	`ok`
`19:34.50`	`DarkRevenant`	`your approach is kinda`
`19:34.54`	`DarkRevenant`	`iffy`
`19:35.00`	`J-Man_`	`why so?`
`19:35.01`	`DarkRevenant`	`you need to just work with the text itself`
`19:35.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`the style you want`
`19:35.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`the style tag is`
`19:35.37`	`DarkRevenant`	`<s val="style">text</s>`
`19:35.44`	`J-Man_`	`ok`
`19:35.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`color is <c val="FF00FF">blah</c>`
`19:36.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`what you need`
`19:36.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`is style in the inside`
`19:36.09`	`J-Man_`	`so i'd need to concatenate together <s val="style"><c val="color">Text</c></s>`
`19:36.10`	`DarkRevenant`	`color on the outside`
`19:36.16`	`DarkRevenant`	`no color comes first`
`19:36.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`then style`
`19:36.18`	`J-Man_`	`ok`
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`19:36.27`	`J-Man_`	`so how do i convert the color to text?`
`19:36.28`	`DarkRevenant`	`meaning`
`19:36.32`	`DarkRevenant`	`all you really need is`
`19:36.37`	`doite`	`Allright`
`19:36.42`	`doite`	`Thats should do it`
`19:36.48`	`doite`	`DBmon Thx again`
`19:36.50`	`DarkRevenant`	`the style tag`
`19:36.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`and then the function`
`19:37.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`Text With Color`
`19:37.09`	`DarkRevenant`	`and use convert playre to color as the color`
`19:37.12`	`BDmon`	`brb`
`19:37.13`	`BDmon`	`np`
`19:37.14`	`J-Man_`	`ok, just found that`
`19:37.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`the text you use to convert`
`19:37.15`	`BDmon`	`its BDmon`
`19:37.17`	`BDmon`	`btw`
`19:37.20`	`DarkRevenant`	`has style tag`
`19:37.24`	`J-Man_`	`cool, let me try that`
`19:37.25`	`doite`	`Yea i said it wrong=)`
`19:37.25`	`J-Man_`	`thanks`
`19:37.35`	`DarkRevenant`	`then it should work`
`19:37.39`	`DarkRevenant`	`make sure dialog text color is white though`
`19:38.02`	`J-Man_`	`ok`
`19:40.03`	`J-Man_`	`here goes nothing...`
`19:40.53`	`J-Man_`	`weird results`
`19:41.14`	`DarkRevenant`	`did you put the style in correctly?`
`19:41.32`	`J-Man_`	`it doesn't look like it, no`
`19:41.39`	`DarkRevenant`	`color works though`
`19:41.43`	`J-Man_`	`no`
`19:41.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`wat`
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`19:41.52`	`J-Man_`	`i'm seperating the two for a second`
`19:41.55`	`DarkRevenant`	`your dialog item color is thus overriding`
`19:41.59`	`kaseano`	`any1 know how to order a unit to use an item?`
`19:42.05`	`kaseano`	`"use item" doesn't have a target`
`19:43.24`	`J-Man_`	`well, it looked like the style applied, but it's supposed to be a vertically centered style, and it wasn't`
`19:43.28`	`J-Man_`	`but the text was white`
`19:43.43`	`J-Man_`	`ok, without the style, i have the right colors`
`19:44.09`	`progammer`	`lol now i have the most league on my profile`
`19:44.22`	`progammer`	`1v1 gold 2v2 plat 3v3 diamond 4v4 bronze`
`19:44.24`	`Vail`	`damit why is this not working`
`19:44.26`	`progammer`	`lack silver though`
`19:44.37`	`DarkRevenant`	`replace 4v4 with silver`
`19:44.46`	`progammer`	`kinda lazy`
`19:44.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`bronze can suck a bag of dicks because it makes people feel bad`
`19:45.34`	`J-Man_`	`that's one more than me`
`19:45.34`	`progammer`	`i may stay there to farm some portrait`
`19:45.47`	`J-Man_`	`1 gold 2 silver 3 plat 4 gold`
`19:45.55`	`J-Man_`	`er, 3 diamond`
`19:46.11`	`DarkRevenant`	`1 coal`
`19:46.13`	`DarkRevenant`	`2 coal`
`19:46.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`3 coal`
`19:46.16`	`J-Man_`	`coal ftw`
`19:46.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`4 coal`
`19:46.19`	`J-Man_`	`w00t!`
`19:46.55`	`progammer`	`i need rainbow league`
`19:46.58`	`progammer`	`for custom map`
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`19:47.34`	`J-Man_`	`i think i know what i did wrong`
`19:47.34`	`Slaydon`	`Hello, anyone from Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch here?`
`19:47.40`	`Slaydon`	`Im considering to move there.`
`19:47.51`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Dude I just moved from there`
`19:47.58`	`Slaydon`	`How is it? :/`
`19:48.07`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Lots of dolphin rape occurances`
`19:48.11`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Other then that it sucks.`
`19:48.19`	`Slaydon`	`...`
`19:48.22`	`Slaydon`	`Do you even know where it is?`
`19:48.24`	`J-Man_`	`here we go again...`
`19:48.42`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Ya dude, Lat 65.667 Long 423.45`
`19:48.51`	`J-Man_`	`ok, i'm back to style and no color`
`19:49.03`	`J-Man_`	`and the style isn't vertically centered again`
`19:49.23`	`Slaydon`	`Dustin, what country?`
`19:49.27`	`Vail`	`damn this ...`
`19:49.46`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Drasfgufdlsnknvppthlmpwmanbvpe, Duh`
`19:49.54`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Who doesnt know that...`
`19:49.57`	`Slaydon`	`Dustin, nopes, its northern wales`
`19:50.32`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`snap`
`19:50.43`	`J-Man_`	`are you sure the style needs to be inside of the color?`
`19:51.03`	`Vail`	`why does this have to be so OBSCURE`
`19:51.06`	`Slaydon`	`Dustin, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch`
`19:51.23`	`J-Man_`	`tell me about it!`
`19:51.40`	`J-Man_`	`styles can suck a dick`
`19:51.45`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Yaaa really dont care`
`19:52.11`	`Vail`	`damn blizzard and their LACK of documentation`
`19:52.22`	`Slaydon`	`Cuz imn freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee`
`19:52.24`	`Slaydon`	`free fallin`
`19:53.08`	`J-Man_`	`free fallin, yeah i'm free fallin....`
`19:53.35`	`J-Man_`	`ok, color inside style and i got color and style... kind of`
`19:53.47`	`J-Man_`	`it's still supposed to be vertically centered, and it's not`
`19:55.16`	`J-Man_`	`so close....`
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`20:00.41`	`Arthas-`	`Helral`
`20:03.07`	`Arthas-`	`How come I rarely remember my dreams, and when I do it's something weird.... like this one! Cameron Diaz in bed with Matt Damon which I ofc is spamming in here like crazy in this very channel (dream fading, can't remember the specifics since memory is fading already, but im sure you were just quiet as usual!)`
`20:03.27`	`Wiz10011`	`Is it a comparsion or a within bounds to check if a unit is within a region for conditions?`
`20:05.07`	`J-Man_`	`do you need to escape double quotes in a text string?`
`20:06.48`	`J-Man_`	`i hate it when the trigger editor gets stuck in "drag" mode`
`20:08.10`	`J-Man_`	`ok, so i'm using a style and a color inside a dialog item`
`20:08.43`	`J-Man_`	`i've determined that i need to build the style into the string around a text with color() of the string i want to display`
`20:09.22`	`J-Man_`	`it's using the style's font and size, but ignoring the horizontal and vertical alignment of the style`
`20:12.19`	`J-Man_`	`i give up. i guess i'll align it manually`
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`20:14.00`	`RoarMan_`	`roar`
`20:15.02`	`DarkRevenant`	`moan`
`20:15.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`groan`
`20:15.13`	`RoarMan_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:15.17`	`Wiz10011`	`can someone help me setting up a condition to check if a unit is within a region?`
`20:15.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`koan`
`20:15.23`	`Vail`	`gnome?`
`20:15.34`	`Vail`	`wait that dont work`
`20:15.36`	`RoarMan_`	`wiz10011 ill try LOL`
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`20:16.39`	`RoarMan_`	`Nahanhanhanhan`
`20:16.53`	`DarkRevenant`	`wiz10011`
`20:16.54`	`DarkRevenant`	`wow`
`20:16.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`i mean`
`20:16.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`really`
`20:17.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`Unit In Region`
`20:17.17`	`Wiz10011`	`Not showing up for me.`
`20:17.25`	`Wiz10011`	`I mean`
`20:17.26`	`DarkRevenant`	`boolean`
`20:17.27`	`Wiz10011`	`really`
`20:17.32`	`Wiz10011`	`without the sarchasm would be nice`
`20:18.34`	`DarkRevenant`	`if it aint showing up`
`20:18.38`	`DarkRevenant`	`your editor isnt in english`
`20:18.49`	`doite`	`Wiz10011`
`20:18.50`	`Wiz10011`	`I need a Effect Unit (target) within region.`
`20:18.59`	`doite`	`Its just to have as event`
`20:19.03`	`doite`	`Unit enteres region`
`20:19.13`	`doite`	`Condition : what kind of unit`
`20:19.18`	`Wiz10011`	`doesnt work for what i need.`
`20:19.19`	`doite`	`Or owner of unit`
`20:19.27`	`doite`	`Ok.. well explain what kind`
`20:19.39`	`doite`	`Effect unit..`
`20:19.52`	`RoarMan_`	`wiz10011 you can set local variables to pick up units with "Select unit with region of (point)" altouhgh you need a preset point`
`20:20.37`	`Wiz10011`	`I tried any unit enter region before, it didnt work. the unit is recalled into a region. someone posted that if i add a effect to the expire of the recalled. then have the event run from that expired effect to move it, so far thats the ONLY thing that made the unit move.`
`20:20.44`	`kaseano`	`any1 ever make a "vespene required" validator, I can't find any examples in the default :(`
`20:21.16`	`DarkRevenant`	`base it off of minerals required then`
`20:21.17`	`LordAbyss`	`wiz10011: what exactly are you trying to do?`
`20:21.23`	`RoarMan_`	`wiz10011 what exactly do you need?`
`20:21.36`	`Wiz10011`	`http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1021053442?page=1#2`
`20:21.40`	`RoarMan_`	`XD lordabyss`
`20:22.09`	`kaseano`	`DarkRevenant: all the minerals/vespene required examples seem to use units instead of players, ex: geyser has vespene*`
`20:22.09`	`Vail`	`kaseano: i think you want a Player Compare Resource Validator`
`20:22.26`	`kaseano`	`yeah trying to get it working, can't see to do it tho`
`20:22.37`	`Wiz10011`	`unit is created in a region off the bounds of the map, waits 0.5 game seconds then a mothership on the map recalls the units that was created (this is all for visially display) but after the units were recalled none of them would move period.`
`20:22.40`	`DarkRevenant`	`validator`
`20:22.44`	`DarkRevenant`	`on condition`
`20:22.51`	`Vail`	`what do you need it to do?`
`20:23.05`	`Wiz10011`	`to attack move to another region of the map.`
`20:23.06`	`kaseano`	`OH maybe it's a condition, I've been using a "smart validator" on an ability`
`20:23.18`	`kaseano`	`trying to disable the ability cus you can't use requirements for this sort of thing`
`20:23.44`	`LordAbyss`	`it is probably not a problem with the trigger editor, there may be a pause effect associate with the mothership recall which would prevent actions being received by the units`
`20:24.24`	`Vail`	`what ability?`
`20:24.31`	`LordAbyss`	`mass recall`
`20:25.05`	`Vail`	`sorry i mean kaseano`
`20:25.05`	`Wiz10011`	`so what would this be under thats stopping them from recieving actions? the recalled behavior? or under effects post recall?`
`20:25.49`	`LordAbyss`	`it would be a behavior, but what you can do, is add a new behavior to each unit recalled that lasts X seconds, and set up a trigger (i am looking to see how to do that) that checks when a behavior falls off of a unit`
`20:25.56`	`kaseano`	`Vail the ability basically drops vespene on the ground and subtracts 1 from the player`
`20:25.58`	`LordAbyss`	`then orders that unit to do whatever you want`
`20:26.04`	`kaseano`	`it all works fine, just trying to get it to disable if vespene is at 0`
`20:26.27`	`Vail`	`ok`
`20:26.35`	`kaseano`	`a lot of abilities use it, I could do it from a trigger but i'm really trying to figure this out`
`20:26.48`	`kaseano`	`I could prob do it with a requirement too that uses a trigger to activate it`
`20:26.53`	`kaseano`	`I Know this has to be possible tho :)`
`20:27.24`	`Wiz10011`	`LordAbyss i think i did something like that, the forum post i linked before a guy suggested i make a new effect then put it as the expire effect under the behaviors. which i did. and then used the trigger to issue order to the units that were the target of that effect`
`20:27.33`	`Vail`	`what are the vales you are using for tha validator kaseano?`
`20:27.51`	`LordAbyss`	`but, what you want to do, is have it delayed`
`20:28.00`	`LordAbyss`	`not right away when they enter a region`
`20:28.03`	`Wiz10011`	`and it would move them, but he also said if i intended to use multiply spawn points or regions that i can set a condition to check that those units are within a region`
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`20:28.27`	`Wiz10011`	`which is whats im asking for help with because i cant seem to figure that out.`
`20:28.41`	`LordAbyss`	`i am also trying to figure it out`
`20:28.45`	`Wiz10011`	`Okay`
`20:28.51`	`LordAbyss`	`try this tho`
`20:29.00`	`LordAbyss`	`add a wait function to your current trigger two`
`20:29.13`	`kaseano`	`it seems really straight forward I duno why it doesn't work`
`20:29.23`	`Wiz10011`	`for actions or the event?`
`20:29.25`	`Vail`	`beacuse its backwards of how it seems`
`20:29.26`	`J-Man_`	`wow. i got it working.`
`20:29.28`	`kaseano`	`Resource vesp, obv, value=0, compare=equal to,`
`20:29.35`	`J-Man_`	`that was way more complicated than it needed to be`
`20:29.37`	`kaseano`	`i'm not really sure what to do w the "other player value"`
`20:29.46`	`Helral`	`tackles Arthas-`
`20:29.47`	`Helral`	`meows`
`20:29.58`	`J-Man_`	`but that's kindof an on-going theme with the editor`
`20:30.01`	`Wiz10011`	`there done, 2 seconds then issues the order to attack`
`20:30.02`	`A1win`	`:E why can't I give "No Unit" as a parameter for a function`
`20:30.05`	`LordAbyss`	`http://tyrannicalchris.pastebin.com/vj7U87ej`
`20:30.09`	`LordAbyss`	`liket hat`
`20:30.16`	`Helral`	`A1win: custom function?`
`20:30.17`	`kaseano`	`Vail do I have to use a condition too? I've never had to do that`
`20:30.18`	`LordAbyss`	`try that, i heard they improved triggers like that`
`20:30.26`	`LordAbyss`	`from the wc3 engine`
`20:30.26`	`A1win`	`Helral, yeah`
`20:30.33`	`Vail`	`i dont think you would have too.`
`20:30.38`	`Helral`	`click the parameter at the bottom screen add no unit to the list`
`20:31.03`	`A1win`	`ahh`
`20:31.06`	`A1win`	`didn't notice that before`
`20:31.07`	`Vail`	`i found that the validators are some what reversed`
`20:31.20`	`kaseano`	`i'm not sure what that means`
`20:31.32`	`kaseano`	`but i'd believe it lol I usually have to shoot in the dark w trial and error w validators b4 i get it lol`
`20:31.39`	`Vail`	`try resource vespene value 0 compare greater than`
`20:31.48`	`kaseano`	`OH`
`20:31.56`	`kaseano`	`that's a good idea, thx vail i'll try it`
`20:32.08`	`Arthas-`	`Helral logging in`
`20:32.12`	`kaseano`	`oh so like "dont do this unless this" kinda thing`
`20:32.31`	`kaseano`	`er it's more of an "unless" than an "if"`
`20:33.10`	`Vail`	`i think`
`20:33.37`	`Vail`	`its like " if this dosent equal that then act"`
`20:33.44`	`kaseano`	`gott it :)`
`20:33.48`	`kaseano`	`that was all it was wow`
`20:33.53`	`kaseano`	`alright 1 more quick Q :)`
`20:34.07`	`Vail`	`ok`
`20:34.07`	`kaseano`	`so I put the validator on the ability effect, so now it produces an error which is nice`
`20:34.26`	`kaseano`	`but it isn't disabling it through the ability. I've only ever done that w requirements never a validator`
`20:34.29`	`kaseano`	`any ideas on how to pull that 1 off`
`20:34.42`	`Vail`	`what the type of ability?`
`20:34.46`	`kaseano`	`abilities have "smart validators" that isn't appearing to do sh* in this situation tho lol`
`20:34.52`	`kaseano`	`effect instant`
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`20:35.20`	`kaseano`	`i know you can validate w requirements, i dont think it works in reverse tho`
`20:41.37`	`Vail`	`what validator did you try for Smart Validator?`
`20:41.58`	`kaseano`	`the same 1 vespene required`
`20:42.04`	`curry-away`	`http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8454/buggyworm.png Anyone seen this before?`
`20:42.05`	`kaseano`	`it works on the effects, not the ability tho`
`20:42.24`	`Vail`	`so you tried the working on on the ability?`
`20:42.40`	`kaseano`	`yeah no dice tho :(`
`20:43.03`	`kaseano`	`if I could turn the validator into a requirement it'd b cake`
`20:43.36`	`Vail`	`its tobad the requirements do not test resources`
`20:44.07`	`kaseano`	`right? :)`
`20:48.08`	`kaseano`	`it sucks cus I don't think triggers can pick up on whether an ability's effect failed on the validator too`
`20:48.56`	`Vail`	`i am going to work with the smart validators for abit`
`20:49.18`	`kaseano`	`let me know how it goes`
`20:50.00`	`kaseano`	`oh nvm the trigger caught it whew`
`20:50.39`	`kaseano`	`I guess I have to use dummy effects on all my abilities that I want to fail from a validator`
`20:54.40`	`kaseano`	`oh wow the effect fail escapes the ability cooldown too`
`20:54.44`	`kaseano`	`blizz is so smart haha`
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`20:56.34`	`DarkRevenant`	`...`
`20:57.12`	`DarkRevenant`	`i sometimes look back at my system`
`20:57.31`	`DarkRevenant`	`and realize it's painfully large`
`20:57.42`	`kaseano`	`that's what she said`
`20:57.45`	`kaseano`	`ahh what a set up.`
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`21:01.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`7523 lines of script`
`21:01.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`oh my god`
`21:06.58`	`grim001`	`darkreverant are you using galaxy or gui?`
`21:07.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`gui`
`21:07.59`	`Vail`	`i think i have figgured out what smart validators are for.`
`21:08.01`	`DarkRevenant`	`galaxy would be half that`
`21:08.20`	`grim001`	`darkrevenant i seem to remember you from wc3`
`21:08.31`	`grim001`	`did you post on wc3c`
`21:08.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`yes`
`21:08.38`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Wtf it'`
`21:08.42`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`s grim`
`21:08.51`	`grim001`	`hi`
`21:08.58`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Hi bud, how ya been!`
`21:09.02`	`DarkRevenant`	`wtf its dustin`
`21:09.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`wtf its dustin browder`
`21:09.12`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`...`
`21:09.14`	`grim001`	`I don't know who dustin is`
`21:09.17`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`TEC_Ghost`
`21:09.19`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`WC3C`
`21:09.20`	`grim001`	`oh, ok`
`21:09.41`	`grim001`	`either of you heard of or used andromeda?`
`21:09.59`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Yup`
`21:10.09`	`DarkRevenant`	`'course`
`21:10.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`but i felt like using gui`
`21:10.23`	`DarkRevenant`	`it's not that bad`
`21:10.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`unlike that wc3 gui...`
`21:10.34`	`grim001`	`I played around with andromeda and found it almost unusable`
`21:10.47`	`grim001`	`it has a lot of features but half of them are only half implemented`
`21:10.52`	`DarkRevenant`	`yeah`
`21:10.53`	`grim001`	`including some of the most important, basic stuff`
`21:11.06`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Oh ya? I havent used it yet, was waiting for it to get stable`
`21:11.06`	`grim001`	`and I'm not sure the development of it is headed in the right direction`
`21:11.11`	`DarkRevenant`	`the benefits of andromeda`
`21:11.16`	`DarkRevenant`	`i've already coded for myself`
`21:11.28`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Tell Vex to make a preproccessor`
`21:11.47`	`DarkRevenant`	`since we have 4d arrays and the ability to make a bunch of types of functions and actions`
`21:11.57`	`DarkRevenant`	`most of the vjass benefits are already there`
`21:12.09`	`grim001`	`galaxy is better than JASS but still horrible to use`
`21:12.22`	`DarkRevenant`	`well at least we can actually code right in the editor`
`21:12.24`	`DarkRevenant`	`now`
`21:12.45`	`kaseano`	`Vail sorry missed that`
`21:12.45`	`grim001`	`anyway, mindworx and I are collaborating on a project`
`21:12.46`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Yeah but any good coding just lags shit anyway`
`21:13.05`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Making a physics engine you're never gonna release? :P`
`21:13.22`	`Vail`	`np smart validators seem to be effect autocasting of abilites`
`21:13.25`	`grim001`	`mindworx is creating sparsile, a fully integrated code editor that doesn't suck`
`21:13.45`	`kaseano`	`there's already a validator for autocasting tho isn't there`
`21:13.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`and by then it's of no use to my project because i already made the whole physics engine for mine`
`21:13.57`	`grim001`	`I'm working on cosmos... since I don't have faith in andromeda`
`21:13.59`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Ya I saw he was workin on it, looks badass`
`21:14.01`	`DarkRevenant`	`oh well`
`21:14.11`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Oh fuck, you're making you're own preproc grim? woot`
`21:14.17`	`Vail`	`those validators decide IF it will cast`
`21:14.33`	`Vail`	`the smart validators appear to be at WHAT it will cast`
`21:14.47`	`DarkRevenant`	`grim`
`21:14.52`	`kaseano`	`that doesn't make sense :)`
`21:14.55`	`DarkRevenant`	`what features are (going to be) in cosmos`
`21:15.06`	`kaseano`	`did you find an ability w a smart v`
`21:15.18`	`grim001`	`I've been contemplating it for the last week or so, I've got it all figured out for the most part`
`21:15.19`	`Vail`	`yes the medic and medivac heals`
`21:15.57`	`grim001`	`the syntax will be C#-inspired, although not completely identical`
`21:16.02`	`kaseano`	`OH`
`21:16.11`	`kaseano`	`so you mean like`
`21:16.14`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Keep me updated on it, sounds sweet`
`21:16.23`	`grim001`	`it will be object oriented only, with a wrapper class to provide access to all of the native functions`
`21:16.35`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Im working on a program in C# that allows me to read/write to a bank file and sync it up with an SQL DB`
`21:16.39`	`kaseano`	`smart filters the targets while the normal valid decides if it will cast at all`
`21:16.44`	`kaseano`	`I get it now ok awesome`
`21:16.44`	`grim001`	`features of note are...`
`21:16.45`	`kaseano`	`good to know :)`
`21:17.07`	`Vail`	`thats the way it appears to me to be`
`21:17.18`	`DarkRevenant`	`i'm assuming this will generate code longer than the shit i've already got`
`21:17.23`	`kaseano`	`I was just about to do a bunch of autocasting stuff I'm glad you told me`
`21:17.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`since it's still`
`21:17.30`	`DarkRevenant`	`after all`
`21:17.32`	`DarkRevenant`	`galaxy`
`21:18.21`	`grim001`	`well, let's just say it'll have all of the useful stuff from andromeda and vjass without a lot of the bloat`
`21:18.37`	`DarkRevenant`	`hmm`
`21:19.00`	`DarkRevenant`	`you might consider a map compression tool`
`21:19.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`similar to the vex optimizer`
`21:19.09`	`DarkRevenant`	`if it's even possible`
`21:19.23`	`DarkRevenant`	`would go well with something like Cosmos`
`21:19.40`	`DarkRevenant`	`especially if you could obfuscate and shorten the code`
`21:20.12`	`DarkRevenant`	`my triggers, in gui`
`21:20.14`	`DarkRevenant`	`are very`
`21:20.16`	`DarkRevenant`	`very`
`21:20.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`big`
`21:20.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`i've got a very large amount of code`
`21:20.30`	`grim001`	`multiple inheritance will be fully supported, along with method overloading, optional parameters with default values, generics, function references, enrichments (including enriching primitive types)`
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`21:20.59`	`grim001`	`most importantly, the features will actually work instead of being released when halfway done.`
`21:21.08`	`sNap`	`hi`
`21:21.34`	`grim001`	`classes will compile to datatable usage, as it's been discovered that stuff stored in datatables does not eat away at the 2MB memory limit.`
`21:21.35`	`DarkRevenant`	`complete with my own struct, object oriented-esque, class, etc. system`
`21:21.42`	`DarkRevenant`	`it's huge in file size`
`21:21.52`	`DarkRevenant`	`1MB for my code so far, compressed`
`21:22.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`all my imports so far compress to 400KB`
`21:22.13`	`grim001`	`structs would also be supported if you need to make it compile to arrays, but structs will not support inheritance.`
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`21:22.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`hmm`
`21:23.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`mine is kinda a hybrid of classes and structs, essentially`
`21:23.20`	`DarkRevenant`	`as a CE major, it's more like a perversion of both object oriented and non-oop programming`
`21:23.22`	`DarkRevenant`	`but it works`
`21:23.33`	`grim001`	`do you actually have a preprocessor or are you just coding it all by hand?`
`21:23.39`	`DarkRevenant`	`hand`
`21:24.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`my "classes"`
`21:24.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`are more just functions that apply a set of values to my "struct" arrays`
`21:24.18`	`DarkRevenant`	`for the projectile`
`21:24.33`	`grim001`	`doing anything complicated with datatables will just be horrible looking`
`21:24.41`	`grim001`	`I'm glad to hide it all behind C# style code`
`21:24.44`	`DarkRevenant`	`lol`
`21:25.11`	`DarkRevenant`	`i get some surprisingly decent speed with my projectile system`
`21:25.16`	`grim001`	`doing it all by hand is also not conducive to code sharing`
`21:25.38`	`DarkRevenant`	`it only really bogs down when everyone has automatic weapons shooting slow projectiles that can collide and bounce off of each other`
`21:25.42`	`RodOfGDI`	`grim001 has any one done any benchmarks on datatables vs arrays?`
`21:25.45`	`DarkRevenant`	`yeah my code is mostly tailor-made for my own project`
`21:25.49`	`grim001`	`we need libraries and code that doesn't look like mush in order to create a robust community like wc3c was for a while`
`21:25.52`	`DarkRevenant`	`it's very difficult to adapt`
`21:26.33`	`grim001`	`rodofgdi, I'm planning to do the benchmarks asap, but I'm assuming that datatables are going to be a bit slower, thus the support for structs`
`21:27.02`	`DarkRevenant`	`do datatables`
`21:27.03`	`grim001`	`if you need inheritance + struct speed, you can just store a struct instance within a class for the speed sensitive data`
`21:27.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`write to a swap file`
`21:27.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`?`
`21:27.27`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`I really liked vJass`
`21:27.39`	`grim001`	`i don't know how they work under the hood, but they're more akin to wc3's hashtables than gamecache`
`21:27.53`	`DarkRevenant`	`you can only really like vjass if regular jass and wc3 gui are your only alternatives`
`21:28.24`	`DarkRevenant`	`i have an obscene amount of variables`
`21:28.26`	`grim001`	`dustin, I'll be keeping everything that was good about vjass, but compiling classes to datatables will allow me to get past all of the limitations that held back vjass`
`21:28.30`	`DarkRevenant`	`but i've never reached that 2MB limit`
`21:28.39`	`DarkRevenant`	`and i've got`
`21:28.48`	`DarkRevenant`	`an awful LOT of code executing at all times`
`21:29.08`	`grim001`	`you might be closer to that 2MB limit than you think`
`21:29.18`	`DarkRevenant`	`well`
`21:29.23`	`DarkRevenant`	`if i do reach that limit`
`21:29.29`	`grim001`	`andromeda can detect how much of the limit you've used up with array declarations and script size alone`
`21:29.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`i can halve or even quarter the max projectile limit`
`21:29.32`	`DarkRevenant`	`from A THOUSAND`
`21:29.52`	`grim001`	`and I've managed to use up 5 or 10% of the limit with just a couple test libraries I coded`
`21:29.56`	`grim001`	`when they were array-based`
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`21:30.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`i've got a unique interface with a hundred elements for each player`
`21:30.39`	`DarkRevenant`	`and a boatload of projectiles`
`21:30.43`	`DarkRevenant`	`runnin on a 1/32 timer`
`21:31.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`and more variables than i care to count`
`21:31.11`	`DarkRevenant`	`and i've never run into the limit`
`21:31.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`it may because my array sizes`
`21:31.22`	`DarkRevenant`	`are absolutely as small as possible`
`21:31.23`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Ya know what, you're right`
`21:31.27`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Fuck the Data edtior`
`21:31.32`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`Im doing everything with triggers`
`21:31.37`	`grim001`	`revenant did you know that timers are capped at 16 updates per second or 22.4 on fastest speed?`
`21:31.44`	`Dustin\|Laptop`	`I tried, but it's to rediculious`
`21:31.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`its a 1/16 timer`
`21:31.51`	`DarkRevenant`	`and a 0.0 wait`
`21:32.02`	`DarkRevenant`	`it really is 1/32 rather than 1/16`
`21:32.07`	`grim001`	`you don't need to use the timer at all, just do it with the 0.0 wait`
`21:32.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`the timer is insurance`
`21:32.17`	`grim001`	`and you can reach 44.8 updates per second on fastest mode`
`21:32.22`	`DarkRevenant`	`in case the game break`
`21:32.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`you see`
`21:32.28`	`DarkRevenant`	`if it's just the wait`
`21:32.32`	`DarkRevenant`	`the entire physics system`
`21:32.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`stops permanently`
`21:32.43`	`DarkRevenant`	`if an array out of bounds error happens`
`21:32.45`	`DarkRevenant`	`or somesuch`
`21:32.52`	`DarkRevenant`	`a timer keeps it going`
`21:32.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`it's an effective bugfixing method`
`21:33.16`	`Arthas-`	`I want to point out that the computer is gay`
`21:33.29`	`Arthas-`	`That's about it, afk! :D`
`21:33.30`	`DarkRevenant`	`computers have no sexuality`
`21:33.36`	`Arthas-`	`This one did`
`21:33.40`	`Arthas-`	`It was a she`
`21:33.51`	`Arthas-`	`Calm, then all of a sudden. Lingonvecka and pms`
`21:34.06`	`Arthas-`	`Needless to say, we did not survive the shitstorm that followed`
`21:34.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`surprisingly`
`21:34.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`a hitscan sniper with high damage`
`21:34.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`can be a very balanced weapon`
`21:34.33`	`grim001`	`revenant the best bug fixing system would be to ensure that doesn't happen in the first place lol`
`21:34.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`since the bullet hitbox is tiny`
`21:34.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`it's SO FUCKING HARD TO HIT PEOPLE WITH IT`
`21:34.44`	`DarkRevenant`	`you'd be surprised`
`21:34.52`	`DarkRevenant`	`well its not hitscan, just very fast`
`21:34.54`	`DarkRevenant`	`but still`
`21:35.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`grim i had to figure out`
`21:35.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`where the problem was`
`21:35.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`turns out I actually did find out what was causing it`
`21:35.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`and now i'm more or less bugfree`
`21:35.33`	`grim001`	`anyway, I need to head out, cosmos is still a month or two away to get it into any kind of working shape`
`21:35.43`	`grim001`	`later`
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`21:35.50`	`kaseano`	`I have an item w a target & a short range, items don't have a follow range, is there any way to make the unit walk towards the target if it's out of range like w a short range ability`
`21:40.12`	`sNap`	`Any ideas why one of my three ability buttons isnt shown when the the targettower was morphed from any other tower, but when i place the targettower right on the map all ability buttons are right there? I really dont know why.`
`21:44.03`	`Helral`	`something went wrong in the morph?`
`21:44.29`	`curry-away`	`http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8454/buggyworm.png anyone seen this? maybe know how to fix? =O`
`21:47.39`	`curry-away`	`no one? dang..`
`21:49.20`	`sNap`	`how could the morph be responsible for abilities?`
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`21:55.16`	`sNap`	`the bug with the visibility of the ability icon came with patch 1.1 when blizzard changed some icons (added new ones). but i dont know if this is related to this behaviour.`
`21:57.27`	`kaseano`	`any1 have a problem w 1 shot model actors for damage effects showing up on the caster and not the target?`
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`22:08.06`	`doite`	`There we go!`
`22:08.09`	`doite`	`All bugged fixed!`
`22:08.30`	`doite`	`Anyone from europe kind enough to be a one time beta tester`
`22:08.30`	`doite`	`doesnt take long`
`22:09.15`	`doite`	`BDmon You dont want to miss this AWESOME sequence in the begining!?! =)`
`22:11.33`	`BDmon`	`sorry m8 just watching a movie atm`
`22:11.35`	`BDmon`	`maybe after`
`22:13.50`	`doite`	`=) Np at all!`
`22:14.09`	`doite`	`Have a case tomorrow anyway, so i guess it give me some extra time to study`
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`22:26.46`	`FockeWulf`	`does anyone know how to lock the camera scroll without locking the input?`
`22:32.25`	`*** join/#sc2mapster doom (48e0fe28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.224.254.40)`
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`22:33.37`	`doom`	`hi`
`22:33.41`	`doom`	`any1 here`
`22:33.46`	`doom`	`i need help`
`22:33.55`	MindWorX`	`Don't ask to ask, just ask`
`22:33.57`	`doom`	`im makeing the frist naruto map`
`22:34.04`	`doom`	`and`
`22:35.04`	`FockeWulf`	`hey for the cameras in the data editor, does anyone know which type of camera is the one for a custom cam object?`
`22:35.06`	`doom`	`im useing the MothershipBeaconLightLow model for a behavior called Heal Jutu and i want the model to attach to the unit but i want it centered`
`22:35.51`	`doom`	`like its attached to the orgin but the model has a height and no attachment points on it`
`22:36.10`	`doom`	`i wanna modify the hieght of the modek`
`22:36.15`	`doom`	`model*`
`22:36.43`	`nolliepoper`	`calm down doom.`
`22:36.49`	`doom`	`kk'`
`22:36.57`	`doom`	`can any 1 help me though`
`22:36.57`	`doom`	`>`
`22:36.59`	`doom`	`?`
`22:37.20`	`nolliepoper`	`in due time.`
`22:37.48`	`Helral`	`you mean a behavior called heal jutsu?`
`22:38.37`	`doom`	`yess`
`22:38.57`	`Helral`	`there are different attachment points, find the one that attaches the actor at the center of the model.`
`22:39.53`	`doom`	`and "Heal Jutu" has an actor and that has a model attached to it called Mothership Light Beacon Low`
`22:40.18`	`doom`	`and that model has a defult hieght`
`22:40.35`	`nolliepoper`	`hieght or height?`
`22:40.47`	`doom`	`cuse it appears above the nexus when u spawn a mothership`
`22:40.51`	`doom`	`Height`
`22:40.56`	`doom`	`brb`
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`22:43.19`	`FockeWulf`	`helral!`
`22:43.29`	`FockeWulf`	`BEEP BEEP!`
`22:44.22`	`FockeWulf`	`Hey does anyone know if in the data editor the field CCamera stands for a custom camera object?`
`22:44.28`	`FockeWulf`	`or which one stands for that?`
`22:46.18`	`Helral`	`FockeWulf: to the first question: yes. to the second question: yes. to continue on with the answers: but I don't know it.`
`22:47.35`	`FockeWulf`	`well got a little issue cause i modded Ccamera and it still didn't get rid of the scroll >.<`
`22:48.32`	`FockeWulf`	`is there a way you have to apply it?`
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`22:53.15`	`nagnazul`	`hi`
`22:53.41`	`nagnazul`	`anyone wanna play my map with me?`
`22:53.49`	`nagnazul`	`I just released a new version, and I need some testers`
`22:54.26`	`doom`	`back`
`22:54.51`	`doom`	`is sixen on>`
`22:54.54`	`doom`	`?`
`22:55.39`	`Sixen`	`Maybe`
`22:55.51`	`Sixen`	`=o`
`22:55.52`	`doom`	`sixen`
`22:55.54`	`doom`	`lol`
`22:56.03`	`doom`	`i aimere u sixen`
`22:56.16`	`Sixen`	`=o`
`22:56.20`	`doom`	`i have bad spelling`
`22:56.24`	`doom`	`sorry`
`22:56.25`	`Sixen`	`thanks :P`
`22:56.31`	`doom`	`sixen`
`22:56.33`	`doom`	`um`
`22:56.58`	`doom`	`do u know the model MothershipBeconLow`
`22:57.08`	`Sixen`	`Can't say I do off the top of my head, ;o`
`22:57.25`	`doom`	`kk`
`22:57.35`	`doom`	`that model has a defult height`
`22:57.55`	`doom`	`cuse it apears above the nexus as you make a MotherShip`
`22:58.24`	`Bounty`	`Sixen`
`22:58.29`	`doom`	`and i want that model to center on a unit when my behavior is actiatved`
`22:58.32`	`Bounty`	`We are about to test the final boss for Win the Crowd`
`22:58.34`	`Bounty`	`u want in?`
`22:58.58`	`Sixen`	`:D`
`22:59.01`	`doom`	`T.T all u pros`
`22:59.01`	`Sixen`	`logging in`
`22:59.32`	`Sixen`	`Try checking out the Data for the Mothership then, doom`
`22:59.33`	`Bounty`	`kk msg me @ Bounty.820`
`22:59.37`	`Bounty`	`ill be on in like 10 seconds`
`22:59.48`	`doom`	`kk`
`23:00.25`	`doom`	`ok who here knows the maker of Sols`
`23:00.33`	`doom`	`the Dota map`
`23:00.51`	`doom`	`i spelt it worng`
`23:00.53`	`doom`	`xD`
`23:01.47`	`doom`	`i mean i wont register at sc mapster till this map is done cuse ima about to be known`
`23:01.55`	`doom`	`ecept`
`23:02.06`	`doom`	`not to Bounty`
`23:02.18`	`doom`	`Bounty and win the crowd is just epic`
`23:02.26`	`Bounty`	`:)`
`23:02.28`	`doom`	`all that detail`
`23:02.38`	`doom`	`with frist person`
`23:02.39`	`Bounty`	`still adding more lol`
`23:03.29`	`Bounty`	`u online Sixen?`
`23:03.34`	`doom`	`demonette`
`23:03.36`	`doom`	`..........`
`23:03.38`	`Sixen`	`I already messaged you`
`23:03.40`	`doom`	`u there?`
`23:03.46`	`Demonette`	`yea?`
`23:03.48`	`Bounty`	`msg me again when i sign back on lol`
`23:03.50`	`doom`	`U R GOD`
`23:03.54`	`Bounty`	`i didnt get ur last msg`
`23:03.55`	`doom`	`lol`
`23:03.56`	`Demonette`	`Why?`
`23:04.02`	`doom`	`i love ur work`
`23:04.09`	`doom`	`with the data etior`
`23:04.13`	`Demonette`	`?`
`23:04.20`	`Demonette`	`what work have i done?`
`23:04.26`	`doom`	`see i dont make triggers`
`23:04.31`	`FockeWulf`	`Hey how do I make it so my custom camera objects will lock the scroll wihout locking the input?`
`23:04.34`	`doom`	`The Dark Swarm`
`23:04.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Helral (Helral@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl)`
`23:04.43`	`doom`	`the difter move`
`23:04.53`	`Demonette`	`Ooohh.... the dark swarm`
`23:04.57`	`doom`	`but i found the arbiter model`
`23:05.06`	`doom`	`not the unit model`
`23:05.07`	`Demonette`	`so long ago that i made it...`
`23:05.17`	`Demonette`	`Hu?`
`23:05.24`	`Demonette`	`what's with an abitier?`
`23:05.31`	`doom`	`but the stais field Model`
`23:05.47`	`doom`	`and i have 3ds max 9`
`23:05.50`	`doom`	`xD`
`23:06.05`	`doom`	`but particles`
`23:06.08`	`Acemore`	`how do you actually use the functions from the library?`
`23:06.08`	`doom`	`T,T`
`23:06.26`	`doom`	`dont use triggers man they lag the game`
`23:06.42`	`doom`	`every thing can be done with the data editor`
`23:07.09`	`doom`	`actors and models and effects rock`
`23:07.39`	`Acemore`	`i know`
`23:07.45`	`Acemore`	`however`
`23:07.54`	`doom`	`its much harder but it reduces lag`
`23:08.17`	`Acemore`	`i doubt you'd want the data editor to sort a scoreboard ;)`
`23:08.28`	`doom`	`well`
`23:08.42`	`Acemore`	`or determine how many votes players gave a certain option`
`23:08.44`	`doom`	`im maken the frist naruto sc 2 map`
`23:08.52`	`Acemore`	`aha cool`
`23:09.00`	`doom`	`and im not gunna stop till its done`
`23:09.27`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh good luck then`
`23:09.29`	`doom`	`i spend 15 hours a day workn on this`
`23:09.45`	`doom`	`with breaks`
`23:10.06`	`doom`	`and i got the terrian and Nagato Done`
`23:10.21`	`doom`	`with terrian Deformations`
`23:10.31`	`doom`	`and the Anti Gravity model`
`23:10.44`	`doom`	`and the rock model for his special`
`23:10.47`	`doom`	`lol`
`23:11.04`	`Acemore`	`Demonette you sound so serious`
`23:11.08`	`Acemore`	`^^`
`23:11.27`	`Acemore`	`Nagato owns`
`23:11.32`	`doom`	`lol`
`23:11.36`	`Demonette`	`serious?`
`23:11.46`	`doom`	`Naruto is gunna be hard`
`23:11.55`	`Acemore`	`i was sarcastic, juuuust like you`
`23:11.56`	`Acemore`	`i guess`
`23:11.57`	`Acemore`	`hope`
`23:12.03`	`Acemore`	`please don't kill me`
`23:12.05`	`Demonette`	`I can't be serious... i'm insanity.`
`23:12.17`	`Demonette`	`Hmmmm... i will see what i can to with you Acemore...`
`23:12.20`	`doom`	`i think ima use the SS_TerraTronSaw Model for the RasenShuriken`
`23:12.29`	`Demonette`	`Maybe just another lost soul`
`23:12.34`	`Acemore`	`eeeeek!`
`23:13.17`	`Acemore`	`stay away from me, Demon!`
`23:13.19`	`doom`	`in my map u can play as every char + every Tails`
`23:13.33`	`doom`	`like the three tailed turrtle`
`23:13.45`	`doom`	`and play as the nine tailed fox`
`23:14.17`	`doom`	`and play as the six tails who i dont know`
`23:14.25`	`doom`	`who is the six tails`
`23:14.41`	`doom`	`ima use the uberlisk for the six tails`
`23:14.45`	`doom`	`cuse`
`23:15.01`	`FockeWulf`	`sup acemore?`
`23:15.01`	`doom`	`6 spine crawler`
`23:15.01`	`doom`	`xD`
`23:15.05`	`Acemore`	`importing models?`
`23:15.09`	`Acemore`	`hey wulf :)`
`23:15.12`	`doom`	`eh`
`23:15.29`	`doom`	`i dont know how and where the models would be found`
`23:15.32`	`FockeWulf`	`i dont know when ya last saw my map :) projectile system working tested and lagless :)`
`23:15.52`	`Demonette`	`I'm closer then you want Acemore`
`23:15.55`	`doom`	`and i dont know how to take parts off models`
`23:16.05`	`FockeWulf`	`doom`
`23:16.06`	`doom`	`t,t`
`23:16.12`	`FockeWulf`	`thats 3dmax work`
`23:16.20`	`doom`	`i have 3dsmax 9`
`23:16.39`	`FockeWulf`	`you probably want 3dmax 11 for sc2 models`
`23:17.01`	`doom`	`why`
`23:17.02`	`doom`	`?`
`23:17.32`	`FockeWulf`	`the sc2 export import tool has some compatibility issues with 3dmax 9`
`23:17.40`	`doom`	`aw`
`23:17.49`	`Acemore`	`Wulf: i couldn't shoot at all in the version i tested i think`
`23:18.09`	`*** join/#sc2mapster rrowland (~Ryan@pool-71-160-198-124.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)`
`23:18.10`	`FockeWulf`	`you wanna see me put my money where my mouth is? :P`
`23:18.13`	`Acemore`	`Demonette i dunno, how close are you?`
`23:18.34`	`doom`	`demonette ur female?`
`23:18.35`	`Acemore`	`FockeWulf eventually, can't right now though :)`
`23:18.52`	`doom`	`cuse the 'ette' is femen`
`23:19.13`	`doom`	`im geaussing`
`23:19.17`	`doom`	`anyway`
`23:19.21`	`doom`	`hmm`
`23:19.27`	`Demonette`	`I server Slaneesh so maybe i'm neither... or both? XD`
`23:19.39`	`doom`	`o.o`
`23:20.14`	`FockeWulf`	`probably changes his/her sex every other day...`
`23:21.55`	`doom`	`the model MothershipBeaconLow apear's above the nexus when you spawn a mothership but thats a defult height so how do i lower that so the center of the model is at the center of the unit when the model has no attachment points?`
`23:21.57`	`Acemore`	`why would we even care, he or she would rip our throats out before we could say 'succubus'`
`23:22.07`	`Wiz10011`	`Can someone recommand a tutorial for making items (weapons) that attack a unit automaticly when it enters its attack radius?`
`23:22.18`	`A1win`	`is there any way to find the middle point of a pathing route?`
`23:22.49`	`doom`	`wiz1011 look at the hypertron unit`
`23:22.57`	`doom`	`its wepon`
`23:23.00`	`doom`	`weapon`
`23:23.18`	`Wiz10011`	`hypertron?`
`23:23.24`	`Demonette`	`Hahah yeah FockeWulf thats the world i love XD`
`23:23.30`	`doom`	`and how it attacks anything in its radis`
`23:23.35`	`doom`	`yess`
`23:23.51`	`doom`	`demonette can u help me`
`23:23.52`	`Demonette`	`and Acemore ... thats the fun part about it isn't it?`
`23:23.54`	`Wiz10011`	`hyperion?`
`23:23.56`	`Demonette`	`No i can't`
`23:23.59`	`doom`	`kk`
`23:24.04`	`doom`	`the model MothershipBeaconLow apear's above the nexus when you spawn a mothership but thats a defult height so how do i lower that so the center of the model is at the center of the unit when the model has no attachment points?`
`23:24.15`	`Demonette`	`i have to go having some fun`
`23:24.42`	`Demonette`	`So guys and gals wish you a nighty night or day or what ever you got`
`23:24.49`	`doom`	`kk`
`23:24.56`	`doom`	`female*`
`23:24.59`	`doom`	`knew it`
`23:25.02`	`doom`	`:P`
`23:25.13`	`Wiz10011`	`Did you mean Hyperion Doom?`
`23:25.18`	`doom`	`yes`
`23:25.24`	`Wiz10011`	`Okay, thanks`
`23:25.32`	`doom`	`look at its weapon`
`23:25.46`	`Wiz10011`	`which? the ATA or ATS?`
`23:25.50`	`doom`	`notice in game it attacks anything in its radis`
`23:25.56`	`doom`	`ethier or`
`23:26.08`	`doom`	`Check the Serch Area`
`23:26.10`	`Wiz10011`	`Okay, thanks`
`23:26.25`	`FockeWulf`	`[15:04] <FockeWulf> Hey how do I make it so my custom camera objects will lock the scroll wihout locking the input?`
`23:32.11`	`doom`	`so no one can help me ;/`
`23:32.13`	`doom`	`xD`
`23:33.13`	`nagnazul`	`hi`
`23:33.19`	`nagnazul`	`anyone wanna help me playtest my map?`
`23:34.09`	`doom`	`The model MothershipBeaconLight_Low apear's above the nexus when you spawn a mothership but thats a defult height so how do i lower that so the center of the model is at the center of the unit when the model has no attachment points?`
`23:34.29`	`Mephs`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:34.35`	`Mephs`	`i've gotten worse thanks to his advice`
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`23:35.58`	`khazuru`	`hi guys. i try to find any idle unit, but i want the units that acitivate a xel'naga tower to be counted too. how can i find out if a unit is activating a xel'naga tower right now?`
`23:37.42`	`doom`	`if its under the unit catoregy and the actor has _Unit alias on it then it will activite the x naga tower`
`23:37.52`	`doom`	`unit actor*`
`23:38.38`	`RodOfGDI`	`lol omg the zealots dance animation is hilarious`
`23:38.41`	`khazuru`	`hm. i want to know, if its activating one right now. i know that there is an ability "tower capture"`
`23:38.43`	`doom`	`cuse on the x naga tower its actor has a _Unit alias serch effect`
`23:39.06`	`doom`	`so any actor will a _Unit Alias will ativate it`
`23:39.08`	`khazuru`	`but won't your way just tell me if a unit is able to activate the twoer?`
`23:39.28`	`FockeWulf`	`doom`
`23:39.32`	`FockeWulf`	`there is a guide`
`23:39.39`	`FockeWulf`	`about model additinos`
`23:39.42`	`FockeWulf`	`you might wanna look into`
`23:39.52`	`FockeWulf`	`in the tutorial`
`23:39.58`	`FockeWulf`	`the guy armed a nexus with 4 photon cannons`
`23:40.08`	`FockeWulf`	`which had arcs of fire`
`23:40.14`	`doom`	`the base of the model on the z axis is at 9`
`23:40.15`	`RodOfGDI`	`u want to know when it activates khazuru?`
`23:40.32`	`FockeWulf`	`[15:04] <FockeWulf> Hey how do I make it so my custom camera objects will lock the scroll wihout locking the input?`
`23:40.47`	`doom`	`go to propitys`
`23:40.53`	`doom`	`properitys`
`23:40.54`	`khazuru`	`yes. i try to find out all idle units at a specific moment and i want to add the units that activate a tower at the moment`
`23:40.58`	`doom`	`damn cant spell`
`23:41.11`	`FockeWulf`	`properties*`
`23:41.32`	`khazuru`	`because for me, they are idle too`
`23:41.34`	`doom`	`anyway to mainly effect cameras you use the trigger editor`
`23:41.40`	`khazuru`	`and sc2 doesnt list them as idle units`
`23:41.50`	`doom`	`then go to the actor`
`23:41.51`	`doom`	`unit`
`23:42.00`	`doom`	`and modifiy it as idle`
`23:42.11`	`doom`	`or if it has a stand animation`
`23:42.18`	`khazuru`	`doom: will i have to do a mod for that?`
`23:42.25`	`doom`	`um no`
`23:42.27`	`FockeWulf`	`actually its a custom cam object taht im using as an fps cam :)`
`23:42.34`	`FockeWulf`	`oh sorry`
`23:42.53`	`doom`	`a mods perpose is to inplant data and triggers into a other map that u create`
`23:43.07`	`khazuru`	`ok, so i just look for the actor`
`23:43.34`	`doom`	`and mods and maps are no different but the change of no terrain and terrian`
`23:43.52`	`khazuru`	`of the unit that actiavtes the tower (marines for example) and change that actor`
`23:43.53`	`khazuru`	`?`
`23:44.17`	`doom`	`the reason mods have no terrrian is that they would fuse when u entered the mod`
`23:44.32`	`doom`	`if they did have terrian`
`23:44.41`	`doom`	`well`
`23:44.46`	`doom`	`go to the actor`
`23:44.51`	`doom`	`add a serch effect`
`23:44.59`	`RodOfGDI`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:44.59`	`RodOfGDI`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:45.03`	`RodOfGDI`	`neither of those work`
`23:45.08`	`RodOfGDI`	`whichis particularlly weird`
`23:45.20`	`RodOfGDI`	`soi dont know what to tell u khazuru`
`23:45.22`	`doom`	`and go to the actor and add an event and the action of that event to be Model Swap`
`23:46.07`	`doom`	`the event is the effect Area Serch and the action is model swap`
`23:46.30`	`doom`	`Effect.AreaSerch.On`
`23:46.44`	`doom`	`the action is model swap`
`23:47.08`	`doom`	`so if the serch is successfull then to swap the model with another`
`23:47.18`	`doom`	`is basicly what that is`
`23:47.40`	`khazuru`	`hm. would i have to do at with any unit that can activate a tower?`
`23:47.41`	`doom`	`actors are full`
`23:47.44`	`doom`	`of fun`
`23:48.12`	`doom`	`no just do that to the x naga tower Actor`
`23:48.23`	`khazuru`	`ah, ok :)`
`23:48.49`	`doom`	`that way the tower will send the serch effect and if it finds anything then i will change to another model`
`23:49.03`	`doom`	`within a range of your choice*`
`23:49.33`	`doom`	`vaildators are usefull for that kinda stuff to`
`23:49.37`	`khazuru`	`but doesn't the xel naga tower change its modell then?`
`23:49.42`	`doom`	`no`
`23:49.48`	`doom`	`on the actor`
`23:50.04`	`doom`	`nvm`
`23:50.08`	`doom`	`yess it will`
`23:50.15`	`doom`	`but to a model of ur choice`
`23:50.41`	`doom`	`im thinkn oblisk`
`23:50.46`	`doom`	`lol`
`23:50.49`	`doom`	`anyway`
`23:50.52`	`khazuru`	`ok :)`
`23:51.15`	`doom`	`the xnaga Obalisk is better cuse it looks more cool`
`23:51.37`	`doom`	`and can be faded in and out with cool effects with less work`
`23:51.50`	`doom`	`next`
`23:51.51`	`doom`	`xD`
`23:51.59`	`khazuru`	`:))`
`23:52.13`	`doom`	`im pro at map maken but`
`23:52.20`	`doom`	`i hate triggers`
`23:52.22`	`khazuru`	`hm. could you pls guide me a little more? :) i cant find the right place to do it`
`23:52.23`	`doom`	`lol`
`23:52.25`	`nolliepoper`	`y so many question`
`23:52.32`	`doom`	`its ok`
`23:52.36`	`khazuru`	`i go to actors`
`23:52.37`	`doom`	`i can handle um`
`23:52.41`	`doom`	`yep`
`23:52.51`	`khazuru`	`choose xel'naga tower (unnamed)`
`23:52.54`	`nolliepoper`	`Doom I like triggers and you like data?`
`23:53.00`	`doom`	`yess`
`23:53.07`	`nolliepoper`	`do some data for my map in exchange for some trigger work.`
`23:53.13`	`doom`	`i dont like triggers cuse they lag in game`
`23:53.20`	`nolliepoper`	`O I know that.`
`23:53.20`	`doom`	`h,`
`23:53.22`	`doom`	`hmm`
`23:53.24`	`nolliepoper`	`But they fun.`
`23:53.33`	`doom`	`ill do it for free`
`23:53.37`	`nolliepoper`	`I am trying to learn abilities right now.`
`23:53.39`	`doom`	`weres ur map`
`23:53.43`	`doom`	`?`
`23:53.45`	`nolliepoper`	`on my hd`
`23:53.51`	`doom`	`may i have it?`
`23:53.56`	`nolliepoper`	`you don't know what I need yet lul.`
`23:54.01`	`doom`	`and what whould u like done`
`23:54.02`	`doom`	`?`
`23:54.06`	`doom`	`lol`
`23:54.35`	`doom`	`im mainly a data ability maker`
`23:54.36`	`nolliepoper`	`It is hard to explain because of all the specifics I need done.`
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`23:54.46`	`doom`	`but ill do anything for the peeps`
`23:54.56`	`nolliepoper`	`I am trying to make a spell that cannot be disrupted while casting.`
`23:55.21`	`doom`	`thats easy`
`23:55.26`	`doom`	`what type of spell`
`23:55.27`	`doom`	`?`
`23:55.30`	`nolliepoper`	`instant.`
`23:55.44`	`nolliepoper`	`instant ability`
`23:55.50`	`nolliepoper`	`with no targets`
`23:55.56`	`doom`	`so you want ur spell to play animation once and follow a target as well`
`23:56.02`	`doom`	`oh`
`23:56.06`	`doom`	`like a buff`
`23:56.06`	`doom`	`?`
`23:56.24`	`doom`	`or a summon?`
`23:56.25`	`nolliepoper`	`on I just want the spell to cast and do no effect.`
`23:56.38`	`doom`	`whats the spell`
`23:56.39`	`doom`	`?`
`23:56.48`	`nolliepoper`	`it is my custom spell.`
`23:56.52`	`doom`	`i need somethin to work with here`
`23:56.53`	`doom`	`xD`
`23:56.59`	`nolliepoper`	`basically when you cast it on the command card.`
`23:57.15`	`doom`	`so an ability spell instant`
`23:57.15`	`nolliepoper`	`the only way to cancle it is to hit esc, not even by clicking to move.`
`23:57.18`	`doom`	`kk`
`23:57.22`	`nolliepoper`	`would that be a behavior?`
`23:57.34`	`doom`	`a behavior is pedioc`
`23:57.40`	`doom`	`perdic`
`23:57.50`	`doom`	`it means like`
`23:57.51`	`C-H`	`periodic?`
`23:57.55`	`doom`	`yess`
`23:58.22`	`doom`	`a behavior dosent end till a vaildator is broken or you set a timer on it`
`23:58.45`	`doom`	`like if the disable or remove vaildator was "Is Flying"`
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`23:59.21`	`doom`	`if u made the unit at some point have a flyin mover then it would disable / remove`

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