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| 00:08.54 | sana | hello hello |
| 00:09.15 | sana | can i please get 2 peeps on EU to help playtest a few rounds of my map |
| 00:10.05 | sana | would need em pronto so dont be shy, volunteer |
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| 00:32.15 | PassivePicasso | http://oi54.tinypic.com/2bxmo5.jpg this is what happens when TD's are too easy |
| 00:34.06 | Maknyuzz | anyone has worked with create attachment building like tech lab? |
| 00:34.21 | Maknyuzz | how do you make that building activate? |
| 00:35.52 | `WB | im not sure how to go about all that, but the attachements are morphs i believe |
| 00:36.10 | `WB | theres a barracks, starport, factory and "blank" version of them |
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| 00:52.11 | Mephs | confirm 2/3 of the custom map contest winners sucked. |
| 00:53.10 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:53.31 | Bounty | I hate TD's but i think Sorcerers Defense should have been atleast one of the three |
| 00:53.38 | Mephs | lol... |
| 00:54.03 | crazyfingers | i love TD's and i couldn't get into sorcerers defense |
| 00:54.08 | crazyfingers | but i only played it once |
| 00:54.27 | Bounty | im just going based off how well it was made |
| 00:54.31 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:54.36 | crazyfingers | ok... |
| 00:54.41 | Bounty | idk what they were judging on though |
| 00:55.08 | Maknyuzz | can someone help me if i want to make tech lab via command center? |
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| 01:40.08 | pirate | is there any easy way to fade in/out for a particular player? |
| 01:40.19 | pirate | instead for everybody? |
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| 02:36.35 | Basicgear | hey all. This where I need to be to get a little development help? |
| 02:38.30 | Basicgear | *crickets* |
| 02:42.37 | progammer | Basicgear: you can get all kind of help here |
| 02:42.49 | progammer | someone did ask their homework or relationship issue |
| 02:44.04 | `WB | lol |
| 02:44.24 | `WB | ask a question, hope someone is awake or sober enough to answer |
| 02:44.33 | `WB | i am the former, but not the latter |
| 02:45.05 | Basicgear | lmao. |
| 02:45.51 | Basicgear | I want to call on a units [image/actor/portrait] in a dialog box. dialog image works but I want it to be based on the unit I have in a variable |
| 02:46.28 | Basicgear | what selecting the 'image' parameter, there is nothing in the function section except 'Data Conversion State Image' |
| 02:46.33 | Basicgear | when* |
| 02:46.52 | `WB | hmmm |
| 02:46.56 | progammer | image directory is a string |
| 02:47.05 | progammer | otherwise you can have a File- Image variable |
| 02:47.59 | Basicgear | well File image variable would still have to be set for each unit I have on my map. |
| 02:48.24 | progammer | you want to convert unit to image ? |
| 02:48.39 | progammer | you can concatenate string, like btn-unit-protoss zealot |
| 02:48.45 | progammer | but it does not work all the time |
| 02:48.53 | Basicgear | well that would work, preferably i would like to have the static portrait display for each unit. |
| 02:50.20 | Basicgear | its all about having a dialog for the players target. I have status bars(hp, shield..) display and update just fine. But the portrait has to be set statically. This is creating a ton of additional triggers just to update the portrait |
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| 02:52.33 | Basicgear | but Im willing to learn something new, programmer, what do you mean by concatenate strings? |
| 02:53.14 | progammer | like just combine (unit name) with "protrait-static.dds" or smt |
| 02:53.21 | progammer | btw look at my name again |
| 02:53.35 | Basicgear | ah sry. |
| 02:53.38 | Maknyuzz | can someone help me how to make transparent .tga file? |
| 02:53.43 | Maknyuzz | transparent background |
| 02:53.54 | Basicgear | do you have photoshop or Gimp? |
| 02:53.59 | Maknyuzz | yes photoshop |
| 02:54.06 | Basicgear | you need to add an alpha layer |
| 02:54.22 | Saeris | go in to channels, needs to be an alpha channel |
| 02:54.34 | Basicgear | then on can set the original layers transparancy level. |
| 02:54.39 | Saeris | works the same way as a mask in photoshop |
| 02:54.52 | Saeris | that's about all i know though |
| 02:55.56 | wacko | .. |
| 02:56.06 | progammer | hi wacko :) |
| 02:56.20 | wacko | ahoy hows it going? |
| 02:56.40 | progammer | people are complaining that this is dying |
| 02:56.45 | Mephs | it is |
| 02:56.47 | wacko | what is ? |
| 02:57.03 | Mephs | i'm getting bored with editor |
| 02:57.08 | Mephs | cuz theres so many things you just can't do |
| 02:57.21 | wacko | such as? |
| 02:57.22 | Mephs | cuz you have to consider |
| 02:57.25 | Mephs | A) bnet lag |
| 02:57.33 | wacko | that has nothing to do with the editor |
| 02:57.35 | Mephs | B) lack of many important validators |
| 02:57.42 | wacko | such as? |
| 02:57.44 | Mephs | height |
| 02:57.45 | Mephs | validation |
| 02:57.50 | Mephs | not cliff level |
| 02:57.53 | Mephs | height. |
| 02:58.06 | Maknyuzz | geez maybe just ask adelion to make transparency for me |
| 02:58.08 | Mephs | you can't get ground or air height in real time of a unit |
| 02:58.13 | Mephs | without a trigger, and if you use a trigger |
| 02:58.14 | Basicgear | can you not create a height validator? |
| 02:58.18 | Mephs | nope |
| 02:58.26 | Mephs | there's nothing that compares unit's actual height |
| 02:58.32 | Basicgear | Maknyuzz I can help you add transparency |
| 02:58.44 | Mephs | which means i have to dumb down my game to accomdate to the lack thereof |
| 02:58.52 | Mephs | i.e. using flat ground only |
| 02:59.08 | Mephs | so everytime i try to make something i have to dumb it down so that sc2 editor can use it |
| 02:59.24 | Mephs | cuz most of my ideas can't be done w/o pure triggering |
| 02:59.28 | Mephs | and i'm not about to make a trigger map |
| 02:59.35 | Maknyuzz | Basic ok great! can i send you a file then can you make the background transparent? |
| 02:59.36 | Mephs | and even then they run like shit in triggering |
| 02:59.47 | wacko | what are you trying to do Mephs |
| 02:59.51 | Basicgear | its like 4 steps Maknyuzz |
| 02:59.56 | Mephs | height differentiation on a missile |
| 03:00.01 | Mephs | if you fire it straight from atop a cliff |
| 03:00.03 | Basicgear | open the layers window |
| 03:00.06 | Basicgear | add a layer |
| 03:00.08 | Mephs | it should go over a unit and not colide |
| 03:00.09 | Mephs | collide* |
| 03:00.14 | Mephs | but there's no way to do that with validators |
| 03:00.16 | Mephs | and if i dont use validators |
| 03:00.29 | Mephs | the missile impact search hits more than one target |
| 03:00.52 | Mephs | because its a fast moving missile |
| 03:00.54 | Basicgear | did you create a missle unit with a weapon? |
| 03:00.58 | Mephs | no |
| 03:01.03 | Mephs | its like |
| 03:01.05 | Mephs | a frost bolt |
| 03:01.17 | Mephs | it moves relatively fast so you have to use persistent searching ahead of the missile to make contact |
| 03:01.21 | Mephs | without making the impact search too wide |
| 03:01.33 | Mephs | but it also needs to differentiate if its being fired high or low |
| 03:01.47 | Mephs | if its not at the same height range as the unit it impacts (since searches can't be done on the Z plane) |
| 03:01.52 | Mephs | it has to keep going |
| 03:01.56 | Mephs | but you can't validate by height |
| 03:02.01 | Basicgear | I am more trigger oriented, I made a unit for projectiles instead and the movers can determine height like you discribed |
| 03:02.07 | Mephs | yeah you can |
| 03:02.11 | Mephs | ...but its in triggers -_- |
| 03:02.12 | Maknyuzz | basic: add layer. then what color? what mode? what opacity? |
| 03:02.25 | Mephs | triggers = bad if its the basis of your entire system |
| 03:03.04 | Basicgear | k now lock your original image. |
| 03:03.05 | wacko | so you cannot create a Validator for Unit Compare Field looks at the Field Height? |
| 03:03.07 | Basicgear | add an alpha layer |
| 03:03.20 | Basicgear | on the other unlocked layer erase everything |
| 03:03.37 | Basicgear | then select your original image layer and there should be opacity options. |
| 03:04.23 | Basicgear | did it work? |
| 03:04.32 | Mephs | field comparisons are static values only |
| 03:04.38 | Mephs | it only compares the value you put in a field |
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| 03:04.41 | Mephs | not its real-time value |
| 03:04.57 | Basicgear | Maknyuzz did it work? |
| 03:05.34 | `WB | is it possible to resize the inventory UI? that shit is so tiny |
| 03:05.47 | wacko | alright Mephs |
| 03:05.51 | wacko | what else |
| 03:06.00 | Maknyuzz | add layer then what? |
| 03:06.03 | Maknyuzz | how to add alpha layer? |
| 03:06.14 | Basicgear | right click the layer and it should have an option |
| 03:06.32 | Basicgear | Im using gimp instead of photoshop so I cant pinpoint the command for u |
| 03:06.53 | progammer | `WB: not sure how but if bdota is going to use a new type of inventory, it should be big enough for you |
| 03:06.58 | progammer | see screenshot |
| 03:07.13 | wacko | lol |
| 03:07.33 | Mephs | i'm bout to just give up on this skill-based games and just make shitty maps |
| 03:07.36 | Mephs | like bounty |
| 03:07.41 | progammer | wacko: so is that dialog item or intergated to the game inventory ? |
| 03:07.48 | Basicgear | lol I hate shitty maps |
| 03:08.01 | wacko | so its using the inventory system |
| 03:08.01 | Mephs | or just make all this shit targetted |
| 03:08.47 | wacko | the only thing that uses trigger dialogs for that map is the hero select screen |
| 03:09.03 | progammer | good news to know |
| 03:09.06 | Basicgear | WB when you say inventory UI do you mean an equipment area or a bag area? I think both are based on the slots in each |
| 03:09.53 | Basicgear | make a dummy slot in like column 5 and row 8. That should make it pretty large |
| 03:10.17 | wacko | as I am sure most people saw at blizzcon the UI system for maps got a little love and anything those maps are able to do... anyone else can do |
| 03:10.31 | Basicgear | Mephs maybe you can help me now that youre here... |
| 03:10.43 | Mephs | ok |
| 03:10.45 | Mephs | in you guys opinions |
| 03:10.51 | Mephs | is an arena game less fun if theres no heights or ramps? |
| 03:11.00 | Basicgear | I have a target dialog, it updates hp shield bars in real time and when you select new targets |
| 03:11.00 | progammer | i'm pretty sure you're talking about this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngIagWjrrFU |
| 03:11.12 | Basicgear | but I want the portrait area to update when you change targets to |
| 03:11.32 | progammer | Basicgear: what is your target ? |
| 03:11.34 | Basicgear | but I cant find a way to call on that image based on the unit. So i have to make seperate triggers to implement the portrait |
| 03:11.35 | wacko | pretty much.. |
| 03:12.05 | Basicgear | Targets are unit in game. Image the target window in WoW or EQ |
| 03:12.30 | progammer | you can have a switch function that return an image for each type of unit |
| 03:12.36 | Basicgear | I have the dialog set and when a new target is selected a dialog item(image) is made. |
| 03:12.47 | progammer | if (Marine) then return marine-potrait-static.dds |
| 03:12.55 | wacko | I think the bigger change would be starjewel which has a complete custom UI using nothing but the editor and no trigger dialogs :P |
| 03:12.55 | Basicgear | yea a switch would work, but if there is a way to change the image based on the target then it would be dynamic instead of static. |
| 03:13.38 | progammer | wacko: wait so is that flash |
| 03:13.44 | wacko | no |
| 03:14.19 | progammer | dont tell me its smt like the mercenaries/planet panel in which we cant access or customize |
| 03:14.28 | wacko | its not |
| 03:14.45 | Basicgear | ah |
| 03:16.08 | Basicgear | so did that help WB? |
| 03:16.47 | Basicgear | how about you Maknyuzz? cause im about to log. Im done with this image problem. |
| 03:16.48 | progammer | ok then i'm totally confused |
| 03:17.03 | `WB | ya, i was refering to the UI as seen in Aiur Chef |
| 03:17.08 | `WB | i want the actual SLOT to be bigger |
| 03:17.10 | wacko | the in-game sc2 ui does not use flash |
| 03:17.14 | wacko | it uses a custom system |
| 03:17.26 | wacko | the only flash stuff is the Battle.net UI |
| 03:17.29 | wacko | and the options menu |
| 03:18.18 | progammer | `WB: how bigger ? the 6 item take all the bar at the bottom screen |
| 03:18.26 | Basicgear | the slots are buttons arent they? |
| 03:18.48 | progammer | wacko: confused on how can that happen without flash or trigger dialog |
| 03:19.01 | `WB | physical larger on the screen |
| 03:19.09 | `WB | i wont have 6 of them there |
| 03:19.21 | Basicgear | that would be changing the button sizes. |
| 03:19.52 | `WB | right, how do I do that |
| 03:20.40 | progammer | `WB: so you want diablo style ? |
| 03:21.01 | `WB | i guess? |
| 03:21.11 | progammer | guess you have to wait till the patch |
| 03:21.14 | `WB | lame |
| 03:21.17 | Basicgear | you cant change the button sizes that are hard coded(that I know of) but.. |
| 03:21.24 | Basicgear | you can make a dialog button with a different size |
| 03:21.52 | `WB | i know, i was hoping i could change the size of the inventory |
| 03:21.54 | `WB | o well |
| 03:22.02 | Basicgear | "create a button for dialog() with the *dimensions (0,0) |
| 03:22.48 | Basicgear | They may even do that in the chef map |
| 03:23.04 | Basicgear | just place the dialog over the inventory window when the inventory is opened |
| 03:24.51 | Basicgear | well gnite all. gl hf |
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| 04:30.01 | Demalii | anyone solve this for me? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/14502-ability-blast-animation-issues/#p3 |
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| 04:34.28 | RodOfNOD | anyone on that happens to know the path to the console icon edging ie the part that goes over an armor or attack with the little 45degree slant in the bottom right? |
| 04:36.12 | progammer_ | search for border in the image browser |
| 04:36.22 | RodOfNOD | ya beenlooking |
| 04:37.14 | RodOfNOD | btw do ulike this better?http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/MOCKUPHELP3.jpg |
| 04:37.16 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/MOCKUPHELP3.jpg |
| 04:37.51 | RodOfNOD | cool found it |
| 04:43.01 | progammer_ | still too much stuff to slap in my face |
| 04:43.33 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:43.38 | RodOfNOD | not sure wht umean |
| 04:43.59 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Capture8.JPG |
| 04:44.05 | RodOfNOD | heres what it actually looks like with real shit so far |
| 04:44.58 | RodOfNOD | i moved the portrait over to the right so it was more like the real console |
| 04:45.20 | RodOfNOD | progammer_ but i want all the info and i dont want 2 screens :P |
| 04:46.37 | progammer_ | RodOfNOD: btw what's the easiet way to do the close button |
| 04:46.51 | RodOfNOD | the one i have on the screen? |
| 04:48.15 | RodOfNOD | if u mean the exact one im using then u have 2 choices either a seperate setof 2 images or one image either way same diff just a dialog button:P |
| 04:48.31 | RodOfNOD | i chose 2 cuz it matched exactly the blizzard one |
| 04:49.25 | progammer_ | so i image at the corner and 1 button adjusted ? |
| 04:50.37 | progammer_ | this one is so epic http://asset.soup.io/asset/0969/0298_7b6f_500.jpeg |
| 05:02.52 | ekcolnovkol|bizz | chances of getting electrocuted x9000% |
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| 05:11.28 | Mephs | need 2 non noobie teammates for 3ss |
| 05:11.44 | Demalii | programmer do you know anything about http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/14502-ability-blast-animation-issues/#p3 |
| 05:16.59 | Demalii | or anyone =/ |
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| 05:31.21 | `WB | i must resort to using...pineapples and bananas for my power armor and sniper rifle |
| 05:31.22 | `WB | lol |
| 05:44.28 | Demalii | so say I wanted to attach an animation to the ground, under a hero unit using an ability, opposed to attached to the unit itself? |
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| 05:46.33 | onetwo | hi |
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| 05:47.02 | LordAbyss | hello |
| 05:48.30 | Lilianna | Goodbye |
| 05:51.43 | onetwo | man |
| 05:51.48 | onetwo | been playing cs source these last few days |
| 05:51.53 | onetwo | used to love it |
| 05:52.02 | onetwo | its nice to see GOOD maps being played |
| 05:52.04 | onetwo | zingggggg |
| 05:52.05 | onetwo | lol |
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| 05:52.33 | Xaragoth | CoD4 still reigns supreme in the FPS genre *sigh* |
| 05:52.47 | Xaragoth | MW2 failed due to steam & bazillion hackers |
| 05:53.18 | onetwo | meh |
| 05:53.24 | onetwo | i played the demo for it a while back |
| 05:53.31 | onetwo | controls just werent as good as what valve could do |
| 05:53.35 | onetwo | went back to cs |
| 05:53.37 | onetwo | or tf2 |
| 05:53.54 | Xaragoth | I still wish for a Ghost Recon style MP Shooter |
| 05:53.57 | Xaragoth | something tactical |
| 05:54.03 | onetwo | would be cool |
| 05:54.08 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/MOCKUPHELP2.jpg and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Capture8.JPG onetwo |
| 05:54.17 | Xaragoth | but probably impossible to play, due to idiots *lol* |
| 05:54.23 | RodOfNOD | prototype and what i have so far |
| 05:54.24 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:54.26 | onetwo | looks cool |
| 05:54.27 | Lilianna | Mech Warrior 2? |
| 05:54.28 | Lilianna | What? |
| 05:54.35 | Lilianna | That was never on steam! |
| 05:54.47 | RodOfNOD | gonna show blizz how to make real helpful help :> |
| 05:55.16 | Demalii | if anyone has ideas on this, lemme know pls http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/14502-ability-blast-animation-issues/#p3 |
| 05:56.10 | Lilianna | its exploding itself. c.c |
| 05:56.19 | Demalii | mw2 = modern warfare 2 |
| 05:56.31 | Demalii | look at the actual blast animation |
| 05:56.36 | Demalii | when unit faces down, it looks normal |
| 05:56.41 | Demalii | when it faces up, it blasts up |
| 05:56.45 | Demalii | that's my problem |
| 05:56.49 | Lilianna | Oh I see now |
| 05:56.54 | Demalii | only down = normal |
| 05:56.55 | Lilianna | No, MW2 will always be Mech Warrior 2 |
| 05:56.55 | Lilianna | :P |
| 05:57.05 | Demalii | any other direction = blasts that way, looks like a gun blast |
| 05:57.13 | Demalii | yea to the old school =p |
| 05:57.18 | Lilianna | http://www.juegomania.org/MechWarrior+2/foto/pc/4/4277/4277_c.jpg/Foto+MechWarrior+2.jpg |
| 05:57.23 | Demalii | mw was indeed the BEST mech game ever |
| 05:57.27 | Lilianna | Shhh, Im not old. D: |
| 05:57.30 | Lilianna | T_T |
| 05:57.57 | Demalii | fix my problem like a magician and you won't be old? =/ |
| 05:58.11 | Demalii | good ol mw |
| 05:58.19 | Demalii | that game + expansions were the shit |
| 05:58.43 | Lilianna | Im thinking |
| 05:59.02 | Lilianna | How is the animation formed? |
| 05:59.06 | Demalii | I've really spent a lot of time changing the actor host and shiz, even set to nothing, the blast does the same |
| 05:59.17 | Demalii | well from the default, it's an impactfx |
| 05:59.23 | Demalii | and the actor "action" calls for it |
| 05:59.34 | Demalii | but I am just trying to do model - one shot |
| 05:59.35 | Lilianna | Hmm |
| 05:59.49 | Demalii | and I've tried all sorts, all sorts, and the thing does the same |
| 06:00.01 | Lilianna | Have you tried just making the actor seperate, and create it when the action is preformed? |
| 06:00.07 | Lilianna | Instead of creating it from the action itself |
| 06:00.08 | Demalii | it is currently |
| 06:00.16 | Demalii | a model actor |
| 06:00.19 | onetwo | have you tried doing a backlog on the model m3h file and then re-import? |
| 06:00.24 | Demalii | events = behavior on, create |
| 06:00.32 | Demalii | a wah |
| 06:00.38 | onetwo | alright, ill stop joking around |
| 06:00.41 | Demalii | lol |
| 06:00.45 | onetwo | you should move on imo |
| 06:00.48 | onetwo | youve been on it for so long |
| 06:00.54 | onetwo | dont want to hold up too much |
| 06:00.56 | Demalii | for a good week now |
| 06:00.59 | onetwo | or try diff way of doing it |
| 06:01.00 | Demalii | well i mean |
| 06:01.25 | Demalii | i dunno other ways i don't think and I don't want to trigger it |
| 06:01.26 | Lilianna | Try making the Host point be the Origin of your model |
| 06:01.32 | Demalii | i've tried all those |
| 06:01.34 | Lilianna | and uncheck the flag to Copy Rotation |
| 06:01.40 | Lilianna | from Host |
| 06:01.41 | Demalii | unit origin = "no unit selected" |
| 06:03.18 | Lilianna | In the Inherited Properties |
| 06:03.26 | Lilianna | and Accepted Transfers |
| 06:03.29 | Lilianna | uncheck Rotation |
| 06:04.00 | Lilianna | nm, its only in Accepted Transfers |
| 06:06.12 | Demalii | someone replied on the forums "attach to ground instead of unit" |
| 06:06.16 | Demalii | how would this be done? |
| 06:06.39 | Lilianna | I was thinking about that, and cant think of any possible way |
| 06:06.39 | Demalii | if unit origin gives me an error of no unit selected |
| 06:06.55 | Demalii | right on |
| 06:07.00 | Lilianna | Unless you made a dummy unit, and spawned it through a trigger |
| 06:07.06 | Lilianna | but thats a silly method |
| 06:07.35 | Lilianna | well you need to have your explosion hosted to a unit |
| 06:07.43 | Lilianna | you still attach it to the unit you want it to appear on |
| 06:07.54 | Lilianna | Just, if your having issues with the model rotate, dont let it rotate |
| 06:07.55 | Demalii | well i've attached it to unit |
| 06:08.03 | Demalii | and left it with nothing, both do the same problem |
| 06:08.13 | Demalii | how do i not let it rotate/ |
| 06:08.16 | Lilianna | I told you |
| 06:08.27 | Lilianna | Go into the Actors Accepted Transfers |
| 06:08.30 | Lilianna | and Uncheck Rotation |
| 06:08.51 | Demalii | ohh i didn't know that applied |
| 06:09.03 | Lilianna | Any time you attach a model to something else |
| 06:09.09 | Lilianna | it will get its scale rotation ect |
| 06:09.12 | Lilianna | unless you change that |
| 06:09.17 | Lilianna | in any sort of host situation |
| 06:10.11 | Demalii | right, well still the problem exists |
| 06:10.36 | Demalii | I just dunno wtf it is, faced down, the blast is normal, but any other direction, the animation moves like a gunshot in that direction |
| 06:10.58 | Demalii | I will just have to make a missle launch or some shit and have that be the impactfx like it's made to be probably |
| 06:11.13 | Lilianna | what model is it? |
| 06:11.45 | Demalii | void seeker attack impact and void sphere blast secondary impact |
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| 06:16.57 | Lilianna | so you create the explosion and a bunch of little spheres and shoot the spheres in a random direction? |
| 06:18.00 | Lilianna | because looking at both of these animations, I dont see the flying particles |
| 06:18.02 | Demalii | no just, play that animation when the ability is clicked |
| 06:18.02 | Lilianna | for some reason |
| 06:18.34 | Demalii | scaled up a bit, it's more visual |
| 06:18.49 | Arthas- | "The Queen has reportedly embraced the web and sends e-mails." |
| 06:18.49 | Lilianna | oh there they are |
| 06:18.50 | Arthas- | ! |
| 06:18.58 | Lilianna | Stupid quality set too low |
| 06:20.16 | Demalii | right on |
| 06:20.29 | Lilianna | I did it so I could edit faster. >.> |
| 06:20.35 | Lilianna | and I was having power problems at the time |
| 06:20.40 | Lilianna | didnt realize PSU was going out |
| 06:21.45 | Demalii | bummer |
| 06:22.11 | Lilianna | its okay now, have a new one |
| 06:22.21 | Demalii | that's good |
| 06:23.05 | Mephs | i kept my pc in a cabinet with no ventilation whatsoever and i wasn't sure why my gfx card was heating up to 120 degrees |
| 06:23.14 | Mephs | but then i took it out of the cabinet and everything was just peachy |
| 06:26.03 | Lilianna | lol |
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| 06:54.46 | onetwo | my comps been ok for 3.5 years |
| 06:54.48 | onetwo | but now |
| 06:54.51 | onetwo | last few weeks |
| 06:54.52 | onetwo | randomly shuts off |
| 06:54.54 | onetwo | while i use it |
| 06:54.57 | onetwo | power supply issue? |
| 06:56.40 | onetwo | also, i think im gonna cave and set up a donations button |
| 06:56.42 | onetwo | on my ytoube channel |
| 06:56.49 | onetwo | money is honestly the reason i make less these days |
| 06:56.55 | onetwo | too much 'other' work |
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| 07:12.05 | `WB | how do i have an item affect a weapon that a unit carries |
| 07:12.14 | `WB | i want an item to give a passive bonus to damage done |
| 07:17.49 | onetwo | make the item have a carry behavior or equip behavior |
| 07:17.51 | onetwo | buff type |
| 07:18.01 | onetwo | that modification+ increases combat - damage dealt unscaled |
| 07:18.06 | onetwo | so make the behavior buff |
| 07:18.09 | onetwo | like you would any |
| 07:18.10 | onetwo | then give it to the item |
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| 07:20.55 | `WB | oh, cool |
| 07:20.56 | `WB | thanks |
| 07:25.53 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 07:25.54 | onetwo | wtf |
| 07:26.01 | onetwo | im editing my gf's art history paper |
| 07:26.14 | onetwo | and this one part she copy pasted in from a quote and wasnt sure what it means |
| 07:26.16 | onetwo | and i cant figure it out |
| 07:26.23 | onetwo | "Zhang Ailing’s stories smack of deadly decay" |
| 07:26.27 | onetwo | wtf lol |
| 07:26.43 | onetwo | smack of deadly decay |
| 07:27.52 | LordAbyss | zzzz |
| 07:27.53 | jorgenpt | onetwo: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/smack+of |
| 07:28.08 | onetwo | wow thats an actual iudiom |
| 07:28.09 | onetwo | hahahaha |
| 07:28.14 | jorgenpt | Yeah. |
| 07:28.21 | jorgenpt | :) |
| 07:28.25 | onetwo | man what a dumb language we speak |
| 07:28.28 | onetwo | i mean |
| 07:28.31 | onetwo | praise america |
| 07:28.40 | onetwo | and canada is okay too |
| 07:28.49 | onetwo | but mostly sucks |
| 07:29.17 | LordAbyss | screw america! |
| 07:30.01 | onetwo | its stupid academic writing |
| 07:30.05 | onetwo | nobody wants to read academic papers |
| 07:30.07 | onetwo | too convoluted |
| 07:30.09 | onetwo | and not to the point |
| 07:30.19 | onetwo | but i guess thats the way the university world works |
| 07:32.48 | onetwo | man i wonder how MS word checks grammar mistakes |
| 07:32.51 | onetwo | must be an insane algorithm |
| 07:32.58 | onetwo | although it never offers how to fix a fragment |
| 07:32.59 | onetwo | lazy bum |
| 07:35.16 | LordAbyss | man i just realized |
| 07:35.19 | LordAbyss | this guy is correct |
| 07:35.19 | Lilianna | Grammer and Spelling, Im told are just hash tables |
| 07:35.26 | Lilianna | for spellcheck/grammer check |
| 07:35.28 | LordAbyss | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:35.34 | LordAbyss | lots of grossness |
| 07:42.57 | LordAbyss | i wonder, anyone know if it is possible to call characters by ascii table reference? |
| 07:50.33 | onetwo | fuck |
| 07:50.36 | onetwo | i bet comp will freeze |
| 07:50.37 | onetwo | in a min |
| 07:50.38 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:51.08 | onetwo | nvm |
| 07:51.09 | onetwo | saved it |
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| 08:29.24 | `WB | hmmm |
| 08:29.35 | `WB | if someone picks up 2 of the same item, then drops one, they lose the behavior |
| 08:29.48 | `WB | even if they still have one copy of the item that should be granting that behaviior |
| 08:32.32 | Exso | trying to align a field with sc2 usernames, anyone know the character limit on a sc2 name? |
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| 09:05.48 | harl | hi |
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| 11:46.44 | Helral|Work | tackles Arthas- |
| 11:46.49 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 11:47.32 | Helral|Work | wonders how high Arthas- dc count is atm. |
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| 12:09.19 | Arthas- | :O |
| 12:09.24 | Arthas- | ITS HUGE |
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| 13:28.06 | Jum-Jum | does repeat acitons forever work yet |
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| 13:50.29 | s3rius | Hey guys, I need your help. Back when Sc2 was in Beta someone (I remember his avatar was the portrait of the battlecruiser) posted a half-finished documentation about the Data Editor and all it's fields. Does anyone have a link to that? Or knows a mapster member with the Battlecruiser dude as his avatar so I can search for his posts? |
| 13:53.39 | Xaragoth | There is only one! |
| 13:53.41 | Xaragoth | PM. |
| 13:53.48 | Xaragoth | We should force him to do it |
| 14:03.14 | Helral|Work | s3rius: I know which one you mean... I thought it was in the sc2mapster wiki somewhere. |
| 14:03.38 | Helral|Work | or did you mean the one linking outside sc2mapster? |
| 14:04.28 | s3rius | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:04.34 | s3rius | There's others? |
| 14:04.58 | Helral|Work | I remember a post that someone made during beta that linked to another website with some stuff listed. |
| 14:05.18 | Helral|Work | and I remember a post linking to the sc2mapster wiki with some stuff explained. |
| 14:05.45 | s3rius | Only thing I found in the wiki is this: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/data/ |
| 14:05.49 | s3rius | which is basically useless |
| 14:06.23 | Helral|Work | s3rius: you want to continue the documentation? or you looking for something? |
| 14:07.10 | s3rius | Basically yes. The guy who develops moonlite approached me whether I could help him document the Data entries to integrate it into moonlite. |
| 14:07.28 | s3rius | I remembered this documentation already had a couple of things covered, so it'd save us a lot of trouble. |
| 14:07.54 | Helral|Work | can help ya search for it in 2 hours orso ;p |
| 14:07.58 | Helral|Work | when I get home. |
| 14:08.39 | Arthas- | why cant you use the wiki data one |
| 14:09.03 | s3rius | I'd very much appreciate it. |
| 14:09.13 | s3rius | The wiki basically tells us nothing. |
| 14:09.29 | s3rius | It's just a list of all the data types, with some lame explanation for a few of them. |
| 14:09.55 | s3rius | It's like I want to know something about every car part and you give me a list about different cars ^^ |
| 14:10.29 | Helral|Work | s3rius try searching through the tutorial forums. for data editor threads. might be that it is listed in there.... |
| 14:10.54 | s3rius | Will do. Just trying to find it via search keywords |
| 14:11.18 | Helral|Work | btw anyone know something about styling disabled textarea's in IE? |
| 14:12.02 | Helral|Work | I need to change the text color but IE won't let me :S so I might be doing something wrong then ;p |
| 14:14.34 | s3rius | You trying it via html? |
| 14:14.45 | Helral|Work | sortof. generated html. |
| 14:14.49 | s3rius | <font color="some color"> doesn't work? |
| 14:14.51 | Helral|Work | so I need css styling. |
| 14:14.56 | Helral|Work | ow :P |
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| 14:15.03 | Helral|Work | nope doesn't work. |
| 14:15.17 | Arthas- | s3rius by a quick read-through it seems like misc mapdev has the oldest threads |
| 14:15.50 | Helral|Work | <textarea disabled>content</textarea> <-- stays grey. even when I do textarea{color:blue} with css. |
| 14:15.55 | Arthas- | But I dont recall anyone having the BC for avatar .p |
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| 14:16.26 | s3rius | I think it was. Maybe it was the bc mercenary, not sure. |
| 14:16.39 | s3rius | Doh I did css years ago <.< forgot everything ^^ |
| 14:16.49 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 14:17.00 | Helral|Work | it's IE that's screwing me over. :P |
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| 14:17.52 | s3rius | Oh, I think I found the documentation that went external |
| 14:17.52 | s3rius | http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/general-mapping-tutorials-659/data-editor-fields-units-164982/ |
| 14:18.01 | s3rius | Actually this might be the one that was posted on mapster too |
| 14:19.05 | Helral|Work | :) |
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| 14:19.40 | Zara | hello |
| 14:19.43 | Sixen | hai |
| 14:19.46 | Arthas- | also |
| 14:19.52 | Arthas- | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/ |
| 14:20.05 | Arthas- | the one you linked were empty |
| 14:20.11 | s3rius | hai sixen beep boop beep |
| 14:20.41 | Zara | guys how can I display team colors in a texture? |
| 14:20.49 | Sixen | bepp |
| 14:23.58 | Arthas- | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/xml/ * |
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| 14:26.16 | Jum-Jum | could someone get on EU for me |
| 14:26.20 | Jum-Jum | I'm just going to invite to lobby |
| 14:26.23 | Jum-Jum | dont need to play or anything |
| 14:26.28 | Arthas- | sure |
| 14:26.31 | Arthas- | hpx.994 |
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| 14:56.43 | Chronicle | Anyone here got some time spare? |
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| 15:01.14 | ZarafFaraz | hey Zara |
| 15:01.35 | ZarafFaraz | I think it has something to do with alpha channels on textures (to get team colors) |
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| 15:08.47 | Zara | hey zara |
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| 15:11.08 | sana | hey sana |
| 15:11.28 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 15:11.59 | sana | guys guys, where do i find game strings |
| 15:12.03 | sana | like "Must target light units" |
| 15:12.10 | Helral|Work | Text module |
| 15:13.04 | sana | right |
| 15:13.12 | sana | ive been almost done with my map for 3 days straight now |
| 15:13.22 | sana | keep finding new bugs to fix |
| 15:13.28 | sana | anyone want to help playtest it in a few |
| 15:13.34 | Helral|Work | I've been almost done with my map for 3 months now. |
| 15:14.01 | sana | i feel the pain |
| 15:14.10 | Helral|Work | I just barely have any time to work on it. |
| 15:14.24 | Helral|Work | all I need to do is some small stuff like creating actual items to find. |
| 15:14.28 | sana | though for my map its rather critical that it gets out soon before the hype/negative interest is over |
| 15:14.34 | Helral|Work | and creating mobs to fight ;p |
| 15:16.02 | Helral|Work | if you got time or are bored at some point, then just take a look at my map. (Helral's Random Dungeon Map) it's on sc2mapster. (in the project forums as well as in the map list) |
| 15:16.36 | sana | ive already seen the thread a couple of times, its really nice |
| 15:16.40 | sana | as a concept |
| 15:16.46 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 15:16.49 | sana | though i feel it needs some polish so that people really appreciate it |
| 15:16.52 | Helral|Work | it's actually playable so far ;p |
| 15:17.15 | sana | for instance i thought the skewed placeholder icons that demonstrated the different item sizes for the inventory made everything look kinda ghetto |
| 15:17.16 | Jum-Jum | hm |
| 15:17.21 | Jum-Jum | how do you like... randomize triggers? |
| 15:17.30 | Jum-Jum | im making an AI attack all the time, but I want it to be a bit more dynamic |
| 15:17.31 | Helral|Work | Jum-Jum how do you mean? |
| 15:17.33 | sana | theres a Random Integer function Jum-Jum |
| 15:17.39 | Jum-Jum | so it attacks on 4 points |
| 15:17.45 | Jum-Jum | but I want it to randomly pick one of those points |
| 15:17.51 | Helral|Work | random int. if result = ... then, else if result = ... then etc. |
| 15:19.40 | Helral|Work | my RDM makes use of that function a lot. |
| 15:19.54 | Helral|Work | like in every single decision uses it at least once. |
| 15:20.09 | Helral|Work | some more then once ;p |
| 15:20.42 | sana | does it also create random decoration and stuff |
| 15:20.49 | Helral|Work | not atm. |
| 15:20.57 | Helral|Work | cause I don't have decorations for the walls |
| 15:21.03 | Helral|Work | if I had them then yeah ;p |
| 15:21.38 | Helral|Work | it also allows for static made rooms. (butchers room Diablo 1 level 2) |
| 15:22.25 | Arthas- | that aint random |
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| 15:22.36 | Helral|Work | it's placed at a random position. |
| 15:22.41 | Arthas- | everyone just had bad luck and got the same room 50 times in a row each! |
| 15:22.43 | Helral|Work | and the decision if it is placed is random. |
| 15:22.53 | Arthas- | LIES |
| 15:23.08 | Helral|Work | atm spawn rate of butcher room is 100% ;p |
| 15:23.11 | Arthas- | also, thank god for stupid enemies not being able to open doors |
| 15:23.12 | Helral|Work | well 99% |
| 15:23.17 | Helral|Work | sometimes it doesn't fit. |
| 15:23.28 | Helral|Work | like the butcher? |
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| 15:24.03 | Helral|Work | who just kept walking from side to side in front of the barred window thingies? |
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| 15:31.01 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 15:31.04 | Arthas- | and then dies |
| 15:31.05 | Arthas- | ! |
| 15:33.53 | sana | what really impressed me was torchlight |
| 15:34.11 | sana | with all its little bits of deco and props strewn across the levels |
| 15:34.17 | sana | didnt look randomly generated at all |
| 15:34.52 | Acemore | isn't that because it's sort of huge sections and blocks which are put together? |
| 15:35.14 | Acemore | and those sections are already hand-built with props etc |
| 15:35.19 | Acemore | or so i though :) |
| 15:35.21 | Acemore | thought* |
| 15:36.27 | sana | i have no idea man |
| 15:38.24 | Jum-Jum | haha |
| 15:39.07 | Jum-Jum | I made the point just randomly move around the region |
| 15:39.14 | Jum-Jum | instead of making a random integer |
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| 15:51.30 | Jum-Jum | hm I has new problem |
| 15:52.00 | Jum-Jum | so I made attack waves of marines and a few medivacs to start off with (island coop map), but the medivacs are out on the ocean and i cant reach them |
| 15:52.06 | Jum-Jum | and he wont send the next attack wave until the medivacs are dead |
| 15:52.07 | Jum-Jum | :| |
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| 15:57.32 | sana | make a no-flight zone? |
| 15:57.45 | sana | pathing -> no-fly zone |
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| 16:05.03 | Dustin | hmm |
| 16:06.09 | sana | how do you make player specific banks? |
| 16:06.24 | sana | like, I have a "Lifetime Score" variable i'd like to call from and save to a bank |
| 16:06.32 | sana | but its an array |
| 16:07.05 | sana | an index for each player |
| 16:07.24 | sana | but if I do.. |
| 16:07.25 | sana | you dont say GG first when you win |
| 16:07.26 | sana | err |
| 16:07.30 | sana | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.41 | sana | i dont think that will save the player's specific score |
| 16:07.52 | sana | because that storing action is for all players |
| 16:08.19 | sana | do i need to name the keys like "score(text(NameofPlayer))"? |
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| 16:12.24 | kaseano | hi :) any1 around |
| 16:12.40 | Dustin | Sana |
| 16:12.51 | Dustin | You cant store / load Text values |
| 16:13.09 | Dustin | Not untill they put in a Text to String function anway |
| 16:13.18 | kaseano | I'm trying to make a missile that splits into other missiles. I can have a time lifed on the missile and an effect when it dies, but i lose the original effect's target point |
| 16:13.35 | kaseano | just wondering how to do it.... |
| 16:13.38 | sana | then how would I save scores on a per-player basis? .x |
| 16:13.54 | Dustin | When you save a bank it should be for a specific player is it not? |
| 16:14.12 | kaseano | or i could have a persistent on the original effect, but then i lose the position of the parent missile |
| 16:14.16 | sana | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.30 | sana | thats the thing, im not spying a player variable anywhere |
| 16:14.36 | sana | it seems to store it for all banks |
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| 16:14.57 | sana | ah wait |
| 16:15.00 | sana | unless I put the banks in an array, too |
| 16:15.04 | sana | for each player |
| 16:15.33 | Dustin | What you should do |
| 16:15.46 | sana | ...cant put bank var into array though |
| 16:15.47 | sana | eek |
| 16:15.48 | Jum-Jum | Maybe try to make the banks in an variable instead |
| 16:15.53 | Jum-Jum | instead of using last opened bank |
| 16:15.53 | sana | yes you can nvm |
| 16:16.04 | sana | yup I think I've got it, sorta |
| 16:16.13 | Jum-Jum | I had the same problems when I did objectives the first time |
| 16:16.25 | Jum-Jum | it's like *facepalm* oh thats how you make it :P |
| 16:16.46 | sana | aye, got it |
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| 16:18.59 | Dustin | Fuckin wireless |
| 16:19.17 | Ashamed | fuck wireless |
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| 16:20.24 | sana | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.24 | sana | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.24 | sana | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.24 | sana | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.24 | sana | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.24 | sana | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.30 | sana | that should work |
| 16:21.05 | Dustin | Yup |
| 16:21.26 | Dustin | How many banks can you have for one map? |
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| 16:21.45 | sana | good question |
| 16:22.14 | sana | oh no now i spoiled the map name |
| 16:22.27 | sana | i sure hope nobody will notice |
| 16:22.29 | sana | i dont want to die |
| 16:23.33 | LordAbyss | wewt! |
| 16:23.40 | LordAbyss | my earliest class next semester is at 9 |
| 16:23.43 | LordAbyss | not freaken 8 |
| 16:24.10 | Dustin | Cause I know there's a bank limit for storable keys, but if we can have as many banks as we want, we can just split em up |
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| 16:24.22 | Dustin | Kind of like normalizing database tables in sql |
| 16:24.48 | Bounty | Do they still do Custom Live? |
| 16:24.56 | sana | whazzat |
| 16:25.10 | Bounty | Livestream show |
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| 16:26.46 | Helral | meows |
| 16:27.06 | sana | moo |
| 16:27.16 | Helral | not moo |
| 16:27.19 | Helral | meows |
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| 16:28.15 | Helral | s3rius you there? |
| 16:28.25 | s3rius | aye |
| 16:28.37 | Helral | should I see if I can find the post? |
| 16:28.41 | Helral | or did you already find it? |
| 16:28.49 | s3rius | No thanks, I got it a while after our talk :) |
| 16:28.57 | Helral | :) |
| 16:29.00 | s3rius | Was in the tutorial section, burried somewhere. |
| 16:29.06 | Helral | just got home from work. :P |
| 16:29.10 | Bounty | s3rius, do you know if they are still doing the Custom Live show? |
| 16:29.15 | Helral | yay I guessed correctly with tut section. |
| 16:29.23 | s3rius | Hm no I don't know. |
| 16:29.38 | Jum-Jum | uuh |
| 16:29.40 | s3rius | Lemme ask quickly |
| 16:29.44 | Jum-Jum | is there any way I can see height in-game? |
| 16:30.42 | Jum-Jum | nvm |
| 16:31.36 | s3rius | Doesn't look like it. |
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| 16:32.13 | Bounty | aww |
| 16:32.14 | Helral | meows |
| 16:32.16 | Bounty | that sucks |
| 16:34.09 | sana | i have a stock unit ability and 3 special abilities |
| 16:34.16 | sana | i hope using E and DFG as the hotkeys for them is alright |
| 16:34.29 | sana | since everything else seems to conflict with the basic movement buttons OR keyboard layouts |
| 16:34.36 | Helral | s3rius: are you feeling serious today? ;p |
| 16:34.57 | s3rius | hey.... WHAZZAAAAAAAAAAAAP |
| 16:35.30 | Helral | guess not :) whaaazaaaabi ;p |
| 16:35.40 | Ashamed | so i thought of a sick zombie idea.. I am so tired of the same zombie map.. " survive against the swarm " .... So i though about making a zombie game... and you actually start as a zombie and you have to create more zombies by kill npc humans... ( pretty much make it like that until all the humans are dead ) and then it becomes a FFA your zombies against the rest of the zombies. ( Make your hero zombie start out like a normal dud |
| 16:35.45 | Ashamed | thats my zombie idea |
| 16:36.23 | kaseano | that reminds me of this game a guy made awhile back |
| 16:36.31 | kaseano | where you're the evil villian in your castle |
| 16:36.41 | kaseano | and heros try to come in and stop you, and you have to set traps and stuff |
| 16:36.42 | Bounty | the thing is, if it has zombies itll be viewed as just another zombie map lol |
| 16:36.53 | Helral | kaseano: I wanna be the good villian.... |
| 16:36.55 | Bounty | just dont call them zombies :) |
| 16:37.05 | kaseano | yeah they can be aliens that look like zombies :) |
| 16:37.10 | Bounty | yeah |
| 16:37.11 | Bounty | that would work |
| 16:37.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:38.16 | Bounty | Man, im really surprised im not getting much feedback on my new combat system |
| 16:38.30 | sana | why are editor text fields so fucking laggy |
| 16:38.32 | Helral | combat system? |
| 16:38.37 | Bounty | Yeah |
| 16:38.38 | Dustin | Link it Bounty |
| 16:38.51 | Bounty | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/14570-wip-win-the-crowd/#p2 |
| 16:39.04 | Bounty | Its for my crown jewel project :) |
| 16:39.12 | Bounty | that i wont release in a week lol |
| 16:39.19 | Zara | any good photoshopper here? |
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| 16:40.04 | Bounty | But yeah ive never seen a combat system like it so figured ppl would comment on it |
| 16:41.05 | Dustin | video is being lame and not loading |
| 16:41.32 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p290L9NMTpQ |
| 16:41.39 | Bounty | may work better |
| 16:44.04 | sana | wtf |
| 16:44.12 | Helral | just don't get hit :) |
| 16:44.18 | sana | the bank initialization foreach I wrote above prevents my map initialization trigger from continuing |
| 16:44.42 | Helral | hmmm bank init? |
| 16:45.05 | sana | [17:20:24] <sana> Player Group - Pick each player in (Active Players) and do (Actions) |
| 16:45.05 | sana | [17:20:24] <sana> Actions |
| 16:45.05 | sana | [17:20:24] <sana> Bank - Open bank "ZerglingRoundup" for player (Picked player) |
| 16:45.05 | sana | [17:20:24] <sana> Variable - Set Tha Bank[(Picked player)] = (Last opened bank) |
| 16:45.05 | sana | [17:20:24] <sana> Bank - Preload and synchronize bank "ZerglingRoundup" for player (Picked player) |
| 16:45.06 | sana | [17:20:24] <sana> Variable - Set Score Lifetime[(Picked player)] = (Load "LifetimeScore" of section "Player" from bank Tha Bank[(Picked player)] as integer value) |
| 16:45.15 | sana | i put that right at the beginning of the map initialization trigger |
| 16:45.19 | Helral | please use pastebin orso for that stuff. ;p |
| 16:45.20 | sana | which causes it to.. do nothing |
| 16:45.23 | Dustin | pastee.org |
| 16:45.25 | sana | aw its just 6 lines :x |
| 16:45.46 | Helral | still depending on IRC program it can look screwed up. (excuse my french) |
| 16:45.51 | sana | right |
| 16:45.56 | sana | will do next time, sorry |
| 16:46.07 | Helral | ah |
| 16:46.11 | Dustin | what french lol |
| 16:46.16 | Helral | the preload is the problem ;p |
| 16:46.38 | Helral | you need to place the preload litterally as Player 1, player 2 etc. |
| 16:46.44 | Bounty | Did you get the video to work Dustin? |
| 16:47.05 | sana | aww |
| 16:47.33 | sana | i guess i need a youtube video of my map to generate hype :x |
| 16:47.40 | Helral | lol |
| 16:47.42 | Ashamed | bounty new combat system on the fourms? |
| 16:47.46 | Zara | anyone good with photoshop here please? |
| 16:47.47 | Dustin | Nah it's borked for me |
| 16:47.48 | Helral | well you saw my vids didn't you? ;p |
| 16:48.05 | Helral | Zara: not really, what you need? |
| 16:48.13 | Bounty | yeah im working on a big project and the basic premise video is up on the forums |
| 16:48.14 | Zara | I need a frame :S |
| 16:48.20 | Bounty | its on project workplace |
| 16:48.20 | Zara | a top frame terran style |
| 16:48.24 | sana | should I preload the bank before or after opening it? |
| 16:48.40 | Helral | Zara: and the ones in textures don't match? |
| 16:49.06 | Ashamed | bounty looks good so far >< |
| 16:49.15 | Zara | I need a custom shape. But existing ones can be mixed to obtain it. |
| 16:49.22 | Ashamed | is it humans vs npc? |
| 16:49.25 | Helral | ahhh :) |
| 16:49.26 | Bounty | Yeah |
| 16:49.29 | Bounty | 3 player co op |
| 16:49.53 | Bounty | all npc's attacks are dodgable |
| 16:50.06 | Helral | I don't use photoshop myself ;p I use Macromedia Fireworks :) |
| 16:50.12 | Ashamed | and it rates the best players? |
| 16:50.15 | Bounty | and the crowd points replace health bars |
| 16:50.20 | Bounty | no its co op lol |
| 16:50.20 | Zara | do you think you can help me out with that? |
| 16:50.39 | Ashamed | oh i get it |
| 16:50.46 | Bounty | if you get hit, your team loses crowd favor and they gain it |
| 16:50.48 | Ashamed | i didn't understand the "crowd" part at first |
| 16:50.48 | Bounty | same goes if u hit them |
| 16:50.51 | Bounty | tug of war :) |
| 16:51.12 | Ashamed | is there a level system? |
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| 16:51.19 | Ashamed | or equipment ?? |
| 16:51.21 | Bounty | there will be customization yeah |
| 16:51.27 | Bounty | not really a level system |
| 16:51.40 | Bounty | 4 classes |
| 16:52.28 | Ashamed | yeah the only things i don't like about arena games is normally they restrict the heroes.... So as long as you don't do that then it should be good. If i am playing a game i want to be get strong as shit by the end of the game |
| 16:52.39 | Ashamed | if my character really does change from the begin of the game to the end |
| 16:52.48 | Ashamed | then i am like well then what is the point of doing this |
| 16:52.52 | Dustin | I like visual changes |
| 16:52.58 | Ashamed | yeah anything |
| 16:52.58 | Dustin | So my guy looks like he's a fucking badass |
| 16:53.02 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 16:53.04 | Ashamed | like he gets bigger |
| 16:53.05 | Ashamed | and better |
| 16:53.06 | Bounty | well u have 3 tiers of abilities |
| 16:53.13 | Bounty | if u build up ur focus gauge |
| 16:53.20 | Dustin | Need a really good atachment system for items |
| 16:53.21 | Bounty | i only have up to tier 2 done yet |
| 16:53.28 | Bounty | tier 3 is going to be like... insane showoff moves |
| 16:53.29 | Dustin | so it displays custom models on units per item |
| 16:53.31 | Ashamed | yeah i would just make a super awesome equiment system |
| 16:53.36 | Ashamed | and make it so you can buy stuff |
| 16:53.43 | Dustin | I'd play that shit |
| 16:53.47 | Ashamed | dustin that might be a lil too hard |
| 16:53.47 | Ashamed | lol |
| 16:54.01 | Helral | Dustin: isn't that already available in sc2? |
| 16:54.01 | Bounty | its not really an RPG |
| 16:54.17 | Dustin | Well i mean you can attach actors and shit |
| 16:54.17 | Helral | attachment data at the item data type. |
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| 16:54.27 | sana | text fields so sllloooow |
| 16:54.27 | Ashamed | but the thing about areana games if they dont offer an award there is only so many times you want to play it |
| 16:54.29 | Dustin | you'd just need a database of all the items with their Model and attachment position |
| 16:54.45 | Ashamed | the only reason i would keep playing an arena game is if i could try differnt stratagies and make my character differnt |
| 16:54.47 | Bounty | well its going to be a set game Ash |
| 16:54.50 | Bounty | 9 levels |
| 16:54.52 | Araxnid | what diff betwenn AI campaing and AI melee? |
| 16:54.52 | Bounty | yeah |
| 16:54.54 | Araxnid | in triggers |
| 16:54.55 | Bounty | ull be able to do that |
| 16:55.04 | Bounty | customization like i said lol |
| 16:55.13 | Ashamed | then it should be good :) |
| 16:55.19 | sana | no dice Helral, it still freezes the map initialization |
| 16:55.19 | Helral | Araxnid: AI melee has different economy then campaign AI I suppose. |
| 16:55.23 | Dustin | I want to make a set of games where you have 1 account and you can get ingame benifits from doing stuff in the other map |
| 16:55.24 | Bounty | ull want to play again bc u prolly wont win :) |
| 16:55.29 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 16:55.29 | Bounty | right now its VERY hard |
| 16:55.34 | Bounty | that fight in the video |
| 16:55.35 | Araxnid | its so cool |
| 16:55.38 | Bounty | we won but |
| 16:55.38 | Ashamed | i am just saying i see alot of great arena games.. but its really just a battle concept and it gets boring after the second time you play |
| 16:55.42 | Bounty | it was a 12 minute fight |
| 16:55.45 | Araxnid | but it useless for me |
| 16:56.03 | Ashamed | dustin i want to make an ORPG that has a PVP map attached to it |
| 16:56.12 | Dustin | That'd be cool |
| 16:56.18 | Dustin | I want to see more stuff like that |
| 16:56.23 | Dustin | take advantage of the bank system |
| 16:56.26 | Ashamed | yeah thats what my next goal is for sure |
| 16:56.50 | Bounty | ash and dustin |
| 16:56.50 | Bounty | mind if i show u both something real fast? :) |
| 16:56.50 | Ashamed | i can't :( |
| 16:56.50 | Ashamed | i am at work |
| 16:56.50 | Dustin | Im at work if it's in game |
| 16:56.54 | Bounty | kk np |
| 16:57.05 | Bounty | one of the things that will keep ppl coming back are the bosses |
| 16:57.06 | Dustin | I mean I COULD but SC2 loads slow, so if someone came in here it'd take like 2 minutes to alt-tab :P |
| 16:57.25 | sana | http://pastebin.com/xamzi9Fg |
| 16:57.27 | Bounty | Bosses get huge epic entrances |
| 16:57.40 | Bounty | so obv the crowd favors them right off the bat lol |
| 16:57.44 | Dustin | But once you see it it's gonna be the same each time |
| 16:57.49 | sana | map init trigger doesnt execute at all because the map remains dark |
| 16:57.58 | sana | which means the Fog of War and Black Mask disabling doesnt occur |
| 16:58.02 | Bounty | nah ive made it to where it gives the goosebump effect |
| 16:58.12 | Bounty | u will shiver everytime u see it |
| 16:58.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:58.28 | Bounty | that and u wont have to watch it over and over |
| 16:58.30 | Bounty | if u lose |
| 16:58.34 | Bounty | just restart the fight |
| 16:58.43 | Bounty | bc im releasing this map after pop list is fixed |
| 16:58.53 | Dustin | My MAIN goal for a SC2 system is to develop a bank structure where I can have an Ingame currency for customizing, then anytime people play my maps they can earn these 'Dustin Points' and buy cool asthetic stuff that take effect for each map |
| 16:58.56 | Bounty | so i wont have any "Features" that favor the popularity list |
| 16:59.08 | Bounty | rofl |
| 16:59.10 | Dustin | I look forward to checking it bounty |
| 16:59.10 | Bounty | dustin points |
| 16:59.12 | Dustin | hehe |
| 16:59.35 | sana | s3rius? i heard you're godly with banks? :x |
| 16:59.47 | sana | mind helping me out? |
| 16:59.54 | Bounty | u know what i dont understand |
| 17:00.02 | Bounty | i go onto bnet and try out some of the third person games |
| 17:00.12 | Bounty | and their cameras are so slow u just run off the screen |
| 17:00.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:00.27 | Bounty | i thought everyone knew how to fix that by now? |
| 17:00.29 | Ashamed | i made a 3rd person camera |
| 17:00.33 | Ashamed | and even upgraded my guys speed |
| 17:00.36 | Ashamed | and he still stayed on screen |
| 17:00.43 | sana | oh yeah, about that |
| 17:00.48 | Bounty | u upped the cameras speed right? |
| 17:00.49 | sana | any idea why the skybox doesnt show in my map? |
| 17:00.57 | Bounty | like the follow speed of the camera |
| 17:01.01 | Bounty | sana |
| 17:01.04 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 17:01.04 | Helral | hmmm does it like the open bank for player 2 when there's only 1 player? |
| 17:01.06 | Bounty | u gotta set the far clip to like |
| 17:01.08 | Bounty | 10,000 |
| 17:01.09 | Ashamed | i am still trying to perfect it |
| 17:01.12 | Ashamed | its not perfect |
| 17:01.14 | sana | I think so Helral |
| 17:01.17 | Bounty | OR |
| 17:01.21 | Bounty | u can make a personal skybox |
| 17:01.24 | Helral | btw sana, my comment earlier was only for the preloads. |
| 17:01.26 | sana | far clip? wasnt that editor only |
| 17:01.27 | Dustin | Sana |
| 17:01.33 | Bounty | take a drone or a probe |
| 17:01.35 | Dustin | No |
| 17:01.37 | Bounty | change its model to a skybox |
| 17:01.40 | Bounty | and make it follow u |
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| 17:01.42 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:01.53 | Dustin | Farclip is how far the camera sees before it applies the blackness |
| 17:02.02 | Tordy | Bounty do you know how to save player information in banks |
| 17:02.10 | Bounty | Tordy |
| 17:02.12 | Tordy | how do you even retrieve player information as a form of string anyway |
| 17:02.16 | Bounty | i honestly wish i knew how to use banks at all rofl |
| 17:02.18 | Helral | preloads don't need to be in the actions of the map init at all. it doesn't matter where they are as long as they are in the map. |
| 17:02.22 | Dustin | Banks are pretty easy |
| 17:02.26 | Ashamed | but for sure i want to make an orpg that has an " instance" type map... for higher levels.. and a pvp type map. |
| 17:02.36 | Ashamed | then it will give people to dedicate time into the rpg |
| 17:02.40 | Dustin | Create bank, Save Bank (variable), load bank next game pull variable |
| 17:02.46 | Ashamed | because they would be liek well once i get good enough i can stomp some noobs |
| 17:03.09 | Tordy | I know how banks work i just want to know how to retrieve player info as some string and then store in a bank so that the bank can identify the player |
| 17:03.18 | Dustin | Cant |
| 17:03.23 | Dustin | Player name = Text |
| 17:03.24 | Bounty | yeah u cant do that yet |
| 17:03.29 | Bounty | they are going to add that soon though |
| 17:03.30 | Dustin | Cant retrieve text from a bank |
| 17:03.39 | Tordy | how does Rodrigo do it? |
| 17:03.50 | Dustin | you save a bank file to each persons computer |
| 17:03.59 | Tordy | or at least how does the maker of Phantom "ban" players |
| 17:04.08 | Dustin | Each time you load it for the player it should give you their banks value |
| 17:04.08 | Tordy | im not banning people specifically |
| 17:04.32 | Bounty | i did a banning system for Doodad Hunt |
| 17:04.33 | Tordy | because people can just delete the bank |
| 17:04.40 | Bounty | i would follow people into games |
| 17:04.40 | sana | it works with integer unique IDs |
| 17:04.42 | sana | given to players |
| 17:04.44 | Bounty | and boot them |
| 17:04.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:04.49 | Bounty | that was my banning system |
| 17:05.01 | Tordy | oh doh im an idiot |
| 17:05.01 | Dustin | You can't really save bans |
| 17:05.07 | Dustin | Because of the bank deletion thing |
| 17:05.32 | Helral | Dustin: Bank deletion? |
| 17:05.32 | sana | now i put the bank opening action into a "pick each player in (active players)" |
| 17:05.34 | sana | and it still doesnt load |
| 17:05.41 | Ashamed | it would be quite stupid to add a perm ban on a map |
| 17:05.44 | Dustin | Someone can just go into their bank file location and delete |
| 17:05.50 | Helral | hehehe |
| 17:05.54 | Bounty | Yeah perma bans wont work |
| 17:05.54 | Dustin | So when they load the map next time there's no data to pull :P |
| 17:06.04 | Bounty | if someone with the name Johnathan gets banned |
| 17:06.09 | Tordy | so how does Rodrigo do the top score lists w/ people's names |
| 17:06.10 | Bounty | what if someone else has that name and want sto play |
| 17:06.12 | sana | viral spreading, dustin |
| 17:06.14 | Helral | you mistake 1 thing Dustin: you have x players you trust as "admins" only they can ban and unban. |
| 17:06.16 | Bounty | thats the problem lol |
| 17:06.18 | Tordy | since names have to be saved somehow in the bank |
| 17:06.24 | sana | spread the ban to other people's banks |
| 17:06.30 | Tordy | xd |
| 17:06.35 | Dustin | Thay system would work kinda of, but at the same time every game isnt played off the same banks |
| 17:06.45 | Helral | on map init the bans from all players are combined and stored to all players again. |
| 17:06.48 | Dustin | so to make a global ban system you'd have to have at least 1 admin in every game |
| 17:06.55 | Dustin | or have admin host Offical games |
| 17:06.57 | Bounty | Banning wont work because of people not having unique names |
| 17:07.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:07.17 | Bounty | For everyone one convicted person you ban, you ban like 100 innocent people |
| 17:07.20 | Ashamed | yeah a global ban system will not owkr |
| 17:07.20 | Dustin | Or even have an admin who populates a bank file that people can load to a website/save to their computer to keep up with official bans |
| 17:07.21 | sana | banning is a stpid idea anyway |
| 17:07.32 | Bounty | Im tellin u |
| 17:07.35 | Bounty | the best way to ban |
| 17:07.42 | Bounty | is follow the person u want to ban |
| 17:07.44 | Bounty | into the game |
| 17:07.45 | Ashamed | people are going to be trolls |
| 17:07.47 | Bounty | and boot him lol |
| 17:07.48 | Tordy | how about no banning! |
| 17:07.51 | Ashamed | the best you can do is add a vote ban system |
| 17:07.52 | Bounty | rinse repeat |
| 17:07.55 | Helral | Bounty: rodrigo stores an uniq id in the bank. so for him bank deletion is a problem. |
| 17:07.55 | sana | i thought of making a special SANA MODE in my map that only i could activate with a special code and stuff |
| 17:07.55 | Tordy | banning is mean :( |
| 17:07.58 | sana | and put silly functions in it |
| 17:08.05 | Ashamed | so the people in the game can decide if he is being a troll enough to be banned |
| 17:08.17 | Dustin | I think what Im going to do is make a Password system |
| 17:08.19 | Bounty | Meh i dont know jack about banks Helral |
| 17:08.24 | Bounty | all my maps are 100% triggers |
| 17:08.26 | Dustin | where I encrpyt a password that a user sets at bank saving |
| 17:08.29 | Tordy | hi Bounty |
| 17:08.34 | Tordy | hi Helral |
| 17:08.36 | Tordy | hi Dustin Browder |
| 17:08.37 | sana | banks are triggers m8 |
| 17:08.38 | Dustin | So unless they have the password they cant retrieve their data |
| 17:08.38 | Bounty | Herro |
| 17:08.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster liq3 (~liquidman@ppp118-209-181-246.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) |
| 17:08.45 | Ashamed | when i release my orpg,pvp map.. i will create me a super admin character! |
| 17:08.50 | Bounty | ok well i only use triggers |
| 17:08.52 | Bounty | except banks |
| 17:08.55 | Bounty | :) |
| 17:08.56 | Helral | meows |
| 17:09.03 | sana | my map dun work |
| 17:09.05 | sana | i sad |
| 17:09.12 | Dekar | awwww |
| 17:09.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster EternalWraith (c42c4123@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.44.65.35) |
| 17:09.18 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 17:09.38 | Bounty | anyone want to help me test something real fast? need 2 peeps |
| 17:09.39 | sana | eiviyn's bank tutorial doesnt cover banks on a per-player basis |
| 17:09.41 | sana | :x |
| 17:09.46 | Tordy | make an admin char all you want, people can just crack the map and look at how admin powers are stored in a bank |
| 17:09.49 | Tordy | hi sana |
| 17:09.52 | sana | is eiviyn around here sometimes? |
| 17:10.01 | Tordy | who |
| 17:10.09 | Tordy | sana what do you want to know about banks |
| 17:10.09 | sana | catalyst is my fav map |
| 17:10.26 | Tordy | what do you mean per-player basis :O |
| 17:10.26 | Ashamed | well Tordy when that happens I will just release a new map with a new code |
| 17:10.30 | Bounty | Need two people to help me test something |
| 17:10.33 | Bounty | Only take 1 minute |
| 17:10.43 | Tordy | Ashamed: and then they'll just crack it again! |
| 17:10.49 | Ashamed | and i will do it again |
| 17:10.52 | Tordy | >_ |
| 17:10.52 | Ashamed | until the fun of its gone |
| 17:10.54 | Tordy | :] |
| 17:10.55 | Ashamed | and then i wont do it anymore |
| 17:10.59 | Tordy | hi Ashamed |
| 17:11.03 | Ashamed | hi |
| 17:11.25 | Ashamed | so there is no way to lock bank files or anything?? |
| 17:11.29 | Ashamed | like any file can be cracked? |
| 17:11.41 | Tordy | well you can only make it harder to decode |
| 17:11.49 | Ashamed | so if i have a game that has a character that can be saved up to lvl 99 someone will be able to crack that |
| 17:11.51 | Tordy | by code obfuscation and bank encryption |
| 17:11.59 | Ashamed | ok |
| 17:12.02 | Ashamed | so there are ways |
| 17:12.07 | Ashamed | you just need to make it hard to crack |
| 17:12.10 | Ashamed | just like any game >< |
| 17:12.14 | Tordy | yea pm |
| 17:12.46 | Ashamed | so no matter what i do admin character or not.. people will cheat either way |
| 17:13.10 | Tordy | well you can try to supress the idea of an admin existing so that people will have less of a reason to look into your map |
| 17:13.11 | Ashamed | mby i can make it a certain combo of triggers first ( passwords ) and then load a bank file |
| 17:13.29 | sana | oh snap.. it wasnt the banks |
| 17:13.39 | sana | removed all the bank triggers and the map still wont init |
| 17:13.39 | Bounty | Thankfully i wont have to worry about people cheating, my maps for small groups of friends lol |
| 17:13.40 | Tordy | sana whatr!? |
| 17:13.43 | Ashamed | can people get around locked maps already? |
| 17:13.51 | sana | my map doesnt initialize anymore :( |
| 17:13.52 | Tordy | they got around htem long ago |
| 17:13.57 | Tordy | :/ |
| 17:13.59 | Ashamed | lol |
| 17:14.02 | Ashamed | fucken blizzard |
| 17:14.09 | Tordy | what do you mean it doesn't initialize, it doesn't even load? |
| 17:14.24 | Tordy | ipoopoopopopopopopopopop |
| 17:14.30 | sana | blizzard are fine folks yo |
| 17:14.38 | sana | it loads, but the map initialization trigger doesnt do anything |
| 17:14.38 | Tordy | apparently my map keeps crashing people |
| 17:14.42 | Tordy | i need to figure it out :[ |
| 17:14.44 | sana | http://pastebin.com/nShfU3n1 |
| 17:14.46 | sana | thats the map init |
| 17:15.07 | Tordy | what why |
| 17:15.14 | Tordy | does it even execute the first action |
| 17:15.37 | Tordy | have you tried trigger debugging |
| 17:15.44 | Tordy | using the debugger to see if it even runs |
| 17:15.57 | Ashamed | that galaxy editor can do some strange shit |
| 17:16.02 | sana | not sure how i would go about doing that |
| 17:16.09 | Tordy | preferences |
| 17:16.09 | Ashamed | this one time i had this variable amd it some how made it so all visable triggers would not work |
| 17:16.19 | Ashamed | i deleted the variable and they started working again |
| 17:16.26 | Tordy | something something i forgot look around for running in Window mode and then turning on trigger debugger |
| 17:16.56 | Tordy | i have no idea why my map is causing people to crash upon map initialization :( |
| 17:17.11 | Tordy | and it only crashes some people |
| 17:17.17 | Tordy | some people ALWAYS crash |
| 17:17.19 | Tordy | others NEVER crash |
| 17:17.21 | Tordy | gahhhhh |
| 17:17.34 | Tordy | that means it's dependant on client side settings so this is hard to figure out :[ |
| 17:17.50 | sana | 00:00:00.00 Script load failed: An error occurred starting StarCraft II. Please try again. |
| 17:17.56 | Tordy | :O |
| 17:18.01 | sana | coool error |
| 17:18.01 | Tordy | uh oh |
| 17:18.06 | sana | that sure will help me fix it! |
| 17:18.08 | Tordy | scrip load not cool! |
| 17:18.17 | Tordy | well at least you know it's not running |
| 17:18.31 | Tordy | and it's due to some error |
| 17:18.32 | Tordy | xd |
| 17:18.34 | Tordy | blops |
| 17:18.48 | Tordy | blops |
| 17:19.05 | sana | is there some sort of trigger size limit or sometihng like that |
| 17:19.08 | sana | that i might be trespassing |
| 17:20.26 | Helral | there is indeed a trigger size limit. |
| 17:20.33 | Ashamed | :( |
| 17:20.34 | Helral | can't remember what it was though. |
| 17:20.39 | sana | mind telling me where i could look up the size of my triggers and such |
| 17:20.44 | Helral | quite a lot of trigger lines are needed to reach it. |
| 17:20.44 | Ashamed | tordy does it do any heavy graphics at the begin of the map? |
| 17:20.50 | Tordy | no |
| 17:20.57 | Helral | are you using any stacked for loops? |
| 17:21.07 | Ashamed | i bet it crashes my computer |
| 17:21.07 | Tordy | im usng my old laptop with integrated graphics and it doesnt crash |
| 17:21.12 | Ashamed | oh |
| 17:21.19 | Tordy | but then people w/ muchj better GPUs are crashing |
| 17:21.20 | Ashamed | have you got an example of computers that are crashing |
| 17:21.27 | Ashamed | hmmm |
| 17:21.39 | sana | trigger size 1.16mb |
| 17:21.41 | sana | compressed 72.5 |
| 17:21.44 | sana | dont think thats it |
| 17:21.45 | Tordy | well people took pictures, their settings were High, so i assume they got good computers |
| 17:21.47 | sana | 72.5kb* |
| 17:21.48 | Helral | sana: stacked for loops generate a lot of redundant code. (bad implementation by blizzard gui editor) |
| 17:21.48 | Ashamed | so its pretty obv that the better computers are crashing? |
| 17:22.04 | Tordy | nah the gaming desktop i have at home doesnt crash either |
| 17:22.17 | Ashamed | wtf |
| 17:22.44 | sana | i dont have any stacked ones, nope |
| 17:22.54 | Ashamed | and you are for sure its your map initiallize trigger? |
| 17:22.59 | Ashamed | have you taken it out and tested it without it |
| 17:23.05 | Helral | hmmm ok my trigger size is 3.75 MB with 540kb compressed and it doesn't crash. ;p |
| 17:24.01 | Helral | sana: do you have your map uploaded on sc2mapster orso, so that I can check what triggercode your using? and if it also crashes for me ;p |
| 17:25.05 | Tordy | not exactly sure if it's my map init trigger but it happens right after the map loads |
| 17:25.17 | sana | no, i do not have released it anywhere yet : |
| 17:25.17 | sana | ( |
| 17:25.18 | Tordy | if it tkae out the map init trigger the entire map wouldn't work anyway |
| 17:25.20 | Tordy | :[ |
| 17:25.32 | sana | and its quite messy and uncommented |
| 17:25.36 | Tordy | hi sana |
| 17:25.40 | Tordy | mine is super messy |
| 17:25.45 | Tordy | i cant even read it myself |
| 17:25.47 | sana | what puts me off is that there is zero pointers in the error message |
| 17:25.55 | Ashamed | tordy but thats the only trigger that runs at the begin? |
| 17:25.59 | Tordy | i want to re-trigger the entire thing from scratch |
| 17:26.02 | sana | for others its |
| 17:26.03 | sana | "00:00:00.00 Script load failed: An error occurred starting StarCraft II. Please try again.e_arrayIndexUnderflow" |
| 17:26.04 | Tordy | but it's too much |
| 17:26.05 | Tordy | im too lazy |
| 17:26.05 | Ashamed | you dont have any loop triggers or time triggers that start right away? |
| 17:26.15 | Tordy | well it didnt crash before |
| 17:26.19 | Tordy | until i updated something |
| 17:26.23 | Helral | ah |
| 17:26.29 | Helral | e_arrayIndexUnderflow. |
| 17:26.32 | sana | nonono |
| 17:26.33 | Tordy | updated a lot of things i forgot which one i did xd |
| 17:26.35 | sana | thats what somebody else got |
| 17:26.36 | Helral | you're using -1 somewhere. |
| 17:26.37 | Tordy | >_>_>_> |
| 17:26.38 | Helral | ow |
| 17:26.39 | Helral | lol |
| 17:26.41 | sana | my message has nothing at all |
| 17:26.42 | Helral | hehehe |
| 17:26.43 | sana | thats the thing |
| 17:26.44 | sana | :'( |
| 17:27.12 | Ashamed | tordy you remind me of myself ><... lol sometimes i can get into a groove with triggers.. but then I will come back to them and go wtf was i doing... lol |
| 17:27.14 | Tordy | i was thinking it had something to do with threaded actions |
| 17:27.17 | Tordy | but that didnt work |
| 17:27.21 | Helral | well can you PM on sc2mapster and then attach the map? (attaching map becomes possible after sending PM) that way I can have a look. |
| 17:27.43 | Tordy | hi there |
| 17:28.35 | Tordy | oh god this is the worst |
| 17:28.43 | sana | my map is FALLING APAR |
| 17:28.44 | sana | T |
| 17:28.50 | Tordy | what could possibly be in the triggers that would make it hate some people's settings/computers and not others |
| 17:28.51 | sana | it just wiped the loading screen body |
| 17:28.52 | sana | for no reason |
| 17:28.55 | sana | a second time |
| 17:29.17 | Tordy | i turned off banks completeely |
| 17:29.21 | Tordy | waiting for feedback now |
| 17:29.30 | sana | i already removed all bank related stuff |
| 17:29.33 | sana | and it still doesnt work |
| 17:29.39 | Tordy | no this is for my map xd |
| 17:29.45 | Tordy | yours is a different case prob |
| 17:29.45 | Helral | sana: try saving the map then restart the sc2editor. |
| 17:29.57 | sana | already done as well |
| 17:29.59 | Tordy | your is map init is not running |
| 17:30.12 | Tordy | mine is map init is crashing some people's SC2 but not others |
| 17:30.13 | Tordy | :( |
| 17:30.17 | Tordy | i dont like galaxy >:( |
| 17:30.39 | Ashamed | looks like you need to start on a new map tordy |
| 17:30.44 | Tordy | noooooooo |
| 17:30.50 | Ashamed | :( |
| 17:30.53 | Tordy | i spent so much time trying to update it :[ |
| 17:30.54 | Ashamed | it happens the the best of us |
| 17:31.02 | sana | script load error always occurs at ~90% of the map loading |
| 17:31.14 | Tordy | start a new map, copy & paste triggers? |
| 17:31.19 | Tordy | no |
| 17:31.20 | Tordy | hi |
| 17:31.25 | Helral | Ashamed: not for me ;p |
| 17:31.26 | Ashamed | tordy or try to find out one of the computers that are crashing |
| 17:31.30 | Ashamed | and test it |
| 17:31.34 | Ashamed | delete one trigger |
| 17:31.37 | sana | ohhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 17:31.38 | Ashamed | give them the map |
| 17:31.38 | sana | i think i know |
| 17:31.40 | Tordy | that's what im doin |
| 17:31.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rushhour (~Rushhour@p4FF17150.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:31.41 | sana | what causes it |
| 17:31.41 | Ashamed | delete another trigger |
| 17:31.43 | Ashamed | give them the map |
| 17:31.47 | sana | hell yes |
| 17:31.50 | sana | I'm upon it, I think |
| 17:31.53 | sana | i have 4 players on my map |
| 17:31.58 | Tordy | im starting by removing bank functionality |
| 17:32.00 | sana | but all my player arrays were [16] indexes |
| 17:32.03 | sana | I cut them down to 4 recently |
| 17:32.04 | Rushhour | hi |
| 17:32.04 | Tordy | if that doesnt work ill each trigger one by one |
| 17:32.06 | sana | i think thats what set it off |
| 17:32.07 | Ashamed | I had a variable once that made it so "ALL visable triggers" would not work. |
| 17:32.22 | Ashamed | no matter if i did ally vision or created a spot of vision |
| 17:32.24 | Ashamed | nothing would work |
| 17:32.25 | Tordy | what was the variable used for? |
| 17:32.29 | Ashamed | once i deleted the var it started working |
| 17:32.32 | Ashamed | nothing |
| 17:32.34 | Tordy | what |
| 17:32.37 | Ashamed | it had no triggers |
| 17:32.38 | Tordy | that doesn't make any sense |
| 17:32.42 | Ashamed | I know |
| 17:32.42 | Helral | sana: check if active players contain players 0 and 16 ;p |
| 17:32.48 | Helral | 0 and 15* |
| 17:32.48 | Ashamed | but it most def was that |
| 17:32.53 | Tordy | gah i hope im not experiencing one of those ambiguous things |
| 17:32.57 | Tordy | thse are th worst |
| 17:32.59 | sana | doubtedly Helral |
| 17:33.00 | Ashamed | once i deleted it... everything worked again |
| 17:33.02 | Tordy | my map has over 300 variables |
| 17:33.06 | Tordy | xd |
| 17:33.13 | Ashamed | so you delete one |
| 17:33.16 | Ashamed | at a time |
| 17:33.16 | Ashamed | lol |
| 17:33.19 | sana | at the end of each round it displays a bit of GUI for each active players |
| 17:33.20 | Tordy | :(((( |
| 17:33.22 | sana | and theres just 4 |
| 17:34.05 | Ashamed | its hard in your situation though tordy :( |
| 17:34.11 | Ashamed | because you can't just run the map and test it |
| 17:34.25 | Tordy | im trying to find a computer that would crash so i can easier test it myself |
| 17:34.34 | Ashamed | yeah for sure lol |
| 17:34.40 | Tordy | i used 3 computers, one gaming desktop, 2 laptops w/ integrated and they didnt crash |
| 17:34.57 | Ashamed | how many people have reported crashing so far? |
| 17:35.02 | Tordy | quite a lot |
| 17:35.14 | Tordy | but at the same time there aren't many that experienced crashes at all |
| 17:35.26 | Ashamed | what is the map? |
| 17:35.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (5edd68af@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.221.104.175) |
| 17:35.29 | Ashamed | is it awesome |
| 17:35.32 | Tordy | prob not |
| 17:35.36 | Ashamed | lol |
| 17:35.37 | Tordy | but people like |
| 17:35.41 | Tordy | it |
| 17:35.43 | Tordy | so i update it |
| 17:35.49 | Ashamed | which one is it? |
| 17:35.51 | Demonette | hides from Tordy. |
| 17:35.56 | Tordy | hi Demonette |
| 17:36.03 | Demonette | Damn... |
| 17:36.07 | Tordy | :) |
| 17:36.14 | Demonette | I should improve my cloaking abilities... |
| 17:36.17 | Demonette | hi tordy |
| 17:36.20 | Tordy | YOU NEED MORE ENERGY |
| 17:36.37 | Demonette | Spawn more Overlords... |
| 17:36.40 | Tordy | i made the map back in April when map editor came out |
| 17:36.47 | Tordy | i didnt realize tugs would become so popular |
| 17:36.56 | Ashamed | real quick question.. is there a way to make it so guys are 100% invisable?? so unless you are allied vision you can't see one part of the unit??? |
| 17:36.58 | Tordy | so i continue to maintain it |
| 17:37.10 | Tordy | but since everyone on sc2mapster hates tugs i just shy away |
| 17:37.12 | Tordy | hi |
| 17:37.19 | Demonette | As i know you can make them 100% invisible |
| 17:37.23 | Tordy | hi Demonette |
| 17:37.28 | Demonette | Hi Tordy |
| 17:37.30 | Tordy | hi |
| 17:37.37 | Tordy | Demonette say hi to Sixen for me |
| 17:37.45 | Demonette | Hi Sixen |
| 17:37.58 | Demonette | Hi Tordy |
| 17:38.01 | Demonette | hi Ashamed |
| 17:38.01 | Sixen | hi |
| 17:38.05 | Helral | meows |
| 17:38.12 | Tordy | Helral say hi to Demonette |
| 17:38.25 | Demonette | is infested by Tordy's-Hi-Plague. |
| 17:38.25 | Tordy | jygga mA |
| 17:38.27 | Demonette | Hi Helral |
| 17:38.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster Jygga (Jygga@unaffiliated/jygga) |
| 17:38.29 | Ashamed | because i was thinking about making an orpg with like 4 chapters and litterally.. making it so there are monsters in all areas but depending on the chapter is depending on the ones you can see and fight |
| 17:38.52 | Ashamed | so it will allow all the players to be on differnt chapters but still fight guys that are better in the same location |
| 17:38.58 | sana | hallelujah |
| 17:38.58 | Jygga | what? |
| 17:39.02 | sana | the array thing was it |
| 17:39.04 | sana | everything works |
| 17:39.08 | Demonette | Hi Jygga |
| 17:39.11 | Tordy | so Rodrigo uses a unique ID thing? |
| 17:39.14 | Ashamed | you think that would work |
| 17:39.14 | Helral | meows to Demonette |
| 17:39.29 | Demonette | hi's to Helral. |
| 17:39.30 | Dustin | Tordy, yes he generates a big ass random ID |
| 17:39.38 | Tordy | what data type does he use |
| 17:39.49 | Tordy | i dont think 32 bit integer is sufficient for something like that |
| 17:39.50 | Dustin | I think it's just an int |
| 17:40.06 | Tordy | somethng like 64 bit int might |
| 17:40.25 | Dustin | He has a post on the forums about it somewhere |
| 17:40.33 | Tordy | yea i read that post a bit |
| 17:40.53 | Tordy | anyne good w/ probability |
| 17:41.05 | Tordy | wht are the odds of a in a 4 player map, at least 2 share the same ID? |
| 17:41.08 | Tordy | using a 32 bit int |
| 17:41.32 | Tordy | i took a course in Probability and i forgot how to do this |
| 17:41.36 | Tordy | xd |
| 17:42.11 | Dustin | Not very big of a chance |
| 17:44.00 | Ashamed | anyone think that would work for an rpg? |
| 17:44.22 | Tordy | by not a big chance you mean |
| 17:44.23 | Tordy | 1% |
| 17:44.27 | Tordy | or 1/1000% |
| 17:44.30 | Tordy | or 1/1000000000% |
| 17:44.47 | Ashamed | 1 / 1000000000000000% |
| 17:44.49 | Ashamed | thats what he means |
| 17:45.36 | Tordy | the demoninator is higher than the # of unique values in an integer! |
| 17:45.38 | Tordy | i dont know if that's right |
| 17:45.46 | Dustin | So if you have a 32 positioned int, with a range of 0-9 for each slot |
| 17:45.52 | Tordy | hi Dustin |
| 17:46.04 | Ashamed | anyone play halo reach? |
| 17:47.49 | Ashamed | well i dont care |
| 17:47.50 | nicoli_s | <- me |
| 17:47.52 | sana | hey guys |
| 17:47.56 | Helral | is afk |
| 17:47.56 | Ashamed | i am going to show a game of me owning |
| 17:47.59 | Ashamed | http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=305974616&player=R4v0nu5# |
| 17:48.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ingela (~Ingela@90-230-169-130-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 17:48.08 | Ashamed | i dunno if that is a good link |
| 17:48.16 | Ashamed | i played some snipers last night and fucken owned shit |
| 17:48.29 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 17:48.36 | sana | would you be interested in helping me playtest zergling round-up, a sc2 custom map contest winner, before public release? :x |
| 17:48.41 | nicoli_s | i usually have at least oe really good game a night where i get like half the kills |
| 17:48.57 | Ashamed | i did a double kill no scope in that game |
| 17:48.59 | Ashamed | it was nice |
| 17:49.09 | Tordy | wait sana you made zergling round up |
| 17:49.21 | sana | yes |
| 17:49.26 | Tordy | I HATE YOU |
| 17:49.26 | Tordy | jk |
| 17:49.28 | Tordy | i <3 |
| 17:49.30 | Ashamed | i am not the best at killing/ dodging people.. but i am just really good at head shots |
| 17:49.34 | Dustin | IS it just a copy of zergling roundup from sc1? |
| 17:49.40 | sana | no |
| 17:49.42 | nicoli_s | ditto, i own with the DWR |
| 17:49.47 | nicoli_s | err DMR |
| 17:49.52 | sana | same principle, radically different mechanics. |
| 17:50.00 | Tordy | ive never even seen it |
| 17:50.06 | sana | yes, it was never out anywhere except blizzcon |
| 17:50.06 | Tordy | what did you win anyway |
| 17:50.17 | sana | i'd rather not brag |
| 17:50.22 | Tordy | dooooo it |
| 17:50.24 | Dustin | I should have competed in the map contest |
| 17:50.27 | Dustin | DAMN MY LAZYNESS |
| 17:50.30 | sana | judging from the sc2mapster threads the subject is quite volatile |
| 17:50.39 | Tordy | im just curious |
| 17:50.43 | sana | so, can someone spare a little time playing it then? |
| 17:50.43 | Tordy | i want to know what the prize is |
| 17:50.52 | sana | free round trip to blizzcon and $5000 |
| 17:50.59 | Dustin | Was like 5grand and a free blizzco ntrip |
| 17:51.00 | Dustin | ya |
| 17:51.00 | sana | and eventually getting your stuff featured |
| 17:51.02 | Dustin | Damn thats badass |
| 17:51.04 | Tordy | what it was 5grand for EACH |
| 17:51.06 | Tordy | daaaamn |
| 17:51.07 | Dustin | I hope they have another one |
| 17:51.12 | Tordy | i could've used 5k |
| 17:51.13 | Dustin | Cause I could use 5grand |
| 17:51.15 | Ashamed | 1,248 out of 2500 are my headshots :) |
| 17:51.16 | Dustin | hehe |
| 17:51.26 | Tordy | did yo goto blizzocn |
| 17:51.36 | Ashamed | so pretty much half of my kills = head shots |
| 17:51.48 | Tordy | oh man they better have another contest |
| 17:51.56 | Tordy | im so entering that one |
| 17:52.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster Jyggaa (Jygga@g231204206.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:52.11 | Tordy | with my brilliant idea implemented into an SC2 map |
| 17:52.17 | Tordy | well ok it's not so brilliant |
| 17:52.18 | sana | i went |
| 17:52.39 | Tordy | when did you get the email of them telling you won |
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| 17:52.42 | sana | they told me about the victory like 1 week before blizzcon so i had to panically scrounge for a passport etc |
| 17:52.55 | Tordy | 1 week before what |
| 17:53.05 | sana | well 2 weeks |
| 17:53.06 | Tordy | for the other 2 winners it was like several weeks i think |
| 17:53.20 | sana | Acemore is around here, he could tell |
| 17:53.21 | Ashamed | nicoli what is your gamer tag? |
| 17:53.27 | Tordy | hi Acemore |
| 17:53.29 | nicoli_s | Sankle |
| 17:53.44 | Tordy | i playe RAD back in beta |
| 17:53.55 | sana | guuuys i could really use some mapper to mapper feedback :'( |
| 17:54.07 | Tordy | wait so your zergling roundup map is not initializing now? |
| 17:54.14 | sana | no, i fixed everything ,it works fine now |
| 17:54.18 | Tordy | so now what |
| 17:54.21 | sana | i want to release a version as polished as possible |
| 17:54.30 | Tordy | wait how'd you fix the map init |
| 17:54.30 | sana | to save the map's reputation |
| 17:54.39 | Tordy | it might fix mine |
| 17:54.40 | sana | i had set all my player-specific variables |
| 17:54.43 | sana | with arrays |
| 17:54.48 | sana | to 4 down from the initial 16 |
| 17:54.49 | sana | that didnt work out |
| 17:54.51 | sana | so i set them back |
| 17:54.54 | sana | fixed the problem |
| 17:55.02 | Tordy | what |
| 17:55.13 | sana | like, Score[4] back to Score[16] |
| 17:55.19 | Tordy | does that make sense |
| 17:55.25 | Tordy | how many players are in this map |
| 17:55.26 | sana | i figured i dont need the extra 12 player indexes |
| 17:55.28 | sana | because i have 4players |
| 17:55.41 | Tordy | shit i have the same deal |
| 17:55.43 | Tordy | but the index is 8 |
| 17:55.49 | Tordy | and i have 4 players in my mpa |
| 17:55.50 | Tordy | map |
| 17:55.52 | sana | but I had some for each player (i) in (all players) stuff |
| 17:55.56 | sana | yeah thats fine tordy |
| 17:55.59 | Tordy | was too lazy to change |
| 17:56.04 | sana | it was the other way around for me |
| 17:56.08 | sana | 4 are too little |
| 17:56.09 | Tordy | actually lemme change them to 4 |
| 17:56.17 | sana | you should rather try 16 |
| 17:56.19 | Tordy | since i dont need 4 extra indices |
| 17:56.22 | Tordy | ;o |
| 17:56.26 | Tordy | whyyyyy |
| 17:56.33 | Tordy | is it galaxy actin up |
| 17:56.36 | Tordy | maybe ill try |
| 17:58.38 | sana | http://i.imgur.com/BITmX.jpg |
| 17:59.05 | Tordy | i get it |
| 17:59.14 | Tordy | cuz linearity! lkdsjfksdjfl |
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| 17:59.16 | Tordy | hi sana |
| 17:59.17 | Tordy | hi |
| 17:59.20 | Tordy | hi currydevil |
| 17:59.30 | currydevil | hi tordy |
| 17:59.52 | Tordy | what's the memory allocation limit in sc2maps |
| 18:00.26 | Tordy | because i have over 300 variables, half of which are arrays of size 4+, im gettin worried |
| 18:00.46 | Tordy | some of them are arrays of strings too |
| 18:03.04 | currydevil | well the limit to upload is 10mb |
| 18:03.13 | currydevil | dunno what it is beyond that. |
| 18:04.48 | Tordy | no no tthe file upload size |
| 18:04.53 | Tordy | by memory allocated in-game |
| 18:06.52 | currydevil | i dunno.. until your game starts lagging? xD |
| 18:08.12 | Tordy | more like until my game starts giving errors! |
| 18:08.20 | Jum-Jum | sana |
| 18:08.22 | Jum-Jum | is that the first doom map? |
| 18:08.27 | Jum-Jum | lol |
| 18:08.35 | sana | pretty sure its a doom map |
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| 18:09.42 | Bounty | Hey guys |
| 18:09.45 | Bounty | is this epic enough? |
| 18:09.46 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjRUQ6vs7fo |
| 18:11.14 | sana | pretty nice |
| 18:12.43 | sana | sooooooooooo is there really nobody around to help me playtest this a last time before release x_x |
| 18:12.51 | sana | its not a long map, just 5 pretty short rounds |
| 18:15.07 | Rushhour | @tordy: I was told 2mb, that would mean around 550,000 int vars |
| 18:15.32 | Rushhour | but int are one of the smallest variables out in the galaxy.. |
| 18:16.10 | Rushhour | I also fear that it could get close to the limit, and I also hate that I can't specifiy the array size with a constant int like I could in plain galaxy :D |
| 18:19.24 | currydevil | it's quite interesting Bounty, but for someone like me, i'm about sick of WoW so your models are.. meh =X |
| 18:19.42 | Bounty | u dont see his model much |
| 18:19.46 | Bounty | after he does his powerfup |
| 18:19.55 | Bounty | covered in blue flame :) |
| 18:20.15 | Bounty | thats one of the reasons i did that lol |
| 18:20.15 | currydevil | is it just him? i watched your first vid it has 2 Ethereals |
| 18:20.25 | Bounty | no |
| 18:20.29 | Bounty | the 2 etherals is a diff level |
| 18:20.32 | currydevil | ok |
| 18:20.34 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p290L9NMTpQ |
| 18:20.40 | Bounty | that guy |
| 18:20.44 | Bounty | i just uploaded that one lol |
| 18:21.31 | Bounty | his model was to bland imo |
| 18:21.41 | Bounty | so i beefed it up abit |
| 18:21.42 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:22.28 | Jum-Jum | that looks great btw Bounty |
| 18:22.37 | Jum-Jum | the #2 one |
| 18:22.46 | Bounty | thx :) |
| 18:22.58 | Bounty | all bosses get entrances like that |
| 18:23.02 | Bounty | so the crowd immediately favors them |
| 18:23.11 | Bounty | i mean, who wouldnt favor someone who showed up like that? :) |
| 18:24.03 | Jum-Jum | word! |
| 18:24.16 | Tordy | hi Jum-Jum |
| 18:25.56 | Xaragoth | I remain totally unimpressed by shitty TPS Controls Bounty |
| 18:26.15 | Bounty | yeah bc thats necessary |
| 18:26.23 | Bounty | still got that stick up ur ass i see lol |
| 18:26.46 | Bounty | If you keep it up i will hug you |
| 18:27.01 | Xaragoth | better don't, I could whisper vjeux into madness and ban you |
| 18:27.14 | Bounty | for what? |
| 18:27.19 | Xaragoth | Basically, I'm the Cthulhu of mapster |
| 18:27.19 | Bounty | wtf is ur problem |
| 18:27.21 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:27.22 | Xaragoth | I whsiper dark things |
| 18:27.25 | Xaragoth | *whisper |
| 18:27.43 | Bounty | btw |
| 18:27.54 | Bounty | what in those videos shows shitty tps controls? |
| 18:28.03 | Bounty | i am just curious on how you came to that conclusion after watching a video :) |
| 18:28.25 | Xaragoth | because you NEVER improve upon them :D |
| 18:28.39 | Xaragoth | and because GOOD controls don't work in bnet right now |
| 18:28.45 | Bounty | read the list of features |
| 18:28.49 | Bounty | yeah i cant do nething about wasd |
| 18:28.50 | Xaragoth | because bnet hates it |
| 18:28.58 | Bounty | it works good enough |
| 18:29.02 | Bounty | ive improved the camera though |
| 18:29.03 | Xaragoth | tracelines too, as well as body-part attacks |
| 18:29.10 | Bounty | i dont use tracelines |
| 18:29.16 | Bounty | my projectiles dont lag lol |
| 18:29.23 | Bounty | wasd yeah, i cant help that though |
| 18:29.28 | Bounty | but it doesnt effect gameplay much |
| 18:29.30 | Xaragoth | and they only fly on the ground :> |
| 18:29.41 | Bounty | my projectiles? |
| 18:29.49 | Bounty | yeah bc thats all i need them to do lol |
| 18:30.10 | Xaragoth | and that's why it'll never be epic enough to even come close to what I expect out of TPS |
| 18:30.17 | Xaragoth | I still hope they'll apply the fix soon |
| 18:30.27 | Xaragoth | Wanna play malu's ruins map again |
| 18:30.31 | Xaragoth | with improved controls |
| 18:30.32 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 18:30.59 | Bounty | so u didnt like the boss entrance? |
| 18:31.39 | Helral | meows |
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| 18:33.06 | Xaragoth | I've seen too many of those the last few months I guess |
| 18:33.12 | Xaragoth | it's called Trial Of The Grand Crusader |
| 18:33.14 | Xaragoth | IT SUCKS |
| 18:33.15 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 18:33.21 | Helral | meows |
| 18:33.27 | Xaragoth | hands Helral a fish. |
| 18:33.41 | ZarafFaraz | what is TPS? |
| 18:33.46 | Helral | eats the fish, then leaves the fishbones. |
| 18:33.59 | Helral | same as FPS but then with a T ;p |
| 18:34.01 | Xaragoth | Third Person Shooter |
| 18:34.13 | Helral | I liked mine better |
| 18:34.30 | Xaragoth | also |
| 18:34.34 | Xaragoth | just out of curiousity |
| 18:34.49 | Xaragoth | who would like a nice Zombie Shooter MMO thingy in shiny Unreal Graphics? |
| 18:35.08 | Helral | WOULD PREFER REAL GRAPHICS. |
| 18:35.11 | Helral | damned caps |
| 18:35.16 | Tordy | Xaragoth guess what |
| 18:35.19 | Tordy | chicken butt!!!!@! |
| 18:35.27 | Helral | I sometimes type when not watching my screen. |
| 18:35.27 | Xaragoth | Tordy, guess what? |
| 18:35.32 | Xaragoth | UNICORN |
| 18:35.34 | Tordy | :( |
| 18:35.36 | Helral | nor my keyboard ;p |
| 18:37.08 | Jum-Jum | im a bit bored of zombie stuff tbh |
| 18:37.17 | ZarafFaraz | hey Bounty, that video looks neat, but it just doesn't seem very fun though |
| 18:37.28 | ZarafFaraz | like it's hard to tell what's going on |
| 18:37.59 | ZarafFaraz | half the time you're just looking for where the boss went |
| 18:38.09 | ZarafFaraz | and they keep doing the same thing over and over |
| 18:38.58 | ZarafFaraz | plus, there is no boss HP or even hero HP shown, so it's unknown how you are progressing or what is going on aside from the crowd points (which could be displayed in a much better manner) |
| 18:39.04 | Xaragoth | Zaraf: That's the principle behind boss fights :p |
| 18:39.25 | Tordy | who's more academically influential than Snooki? |
| 18:39.35 | ZarafFaraz | for a tug of war point system, I would expect a bar at the top that starts out in the middle, and pushes to either side depending on who is being favored |
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| 18:40.09 | Pierrot | hi all ! |
| 18:40.11 | ZarafFaraz | so you have a total of 1000 crowd points, and you and the boss both start out with 500. Then the bar would at at 50%, and just shift it along depending on what you guys have |
| 18:40.13 | Tordy | ZarafFaraz yea every tug map should have that |
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| 18:40.36 | ZarafFaraz | well some tug maps are harder to gauge with that regard |
| 18:40.44 | Helral | meows |
| 18:40.48 | ZarafFaraz | like in Nexus wars....upon what do you gauge the bar? |
| 18:40.53 | ZarafFaraz | kills? buildings? |
| 18:40.58 | Tordy | although for simpler maps, you can prob just look at the minimap |
| 18:41.13 | ZarafFaraz | neither of those really say what the winning criteria is |
| 18:41.19 | ZarafFaraz | yeah |
| 18:41.37 | ZarafFaraz | for most tug maps that make use of the mini-map like Nexus Wars, the mini-map is good enough to see a visual progress |
| 18:42.00 | Tordy | although it's prob best to keep a "winning" bar hidden |
| 18:42.26 | Tordy | a more precise one might get people to leave even early |
| 18:42.36 | Tordy | and just not try |
| 18:42.42 | ZarafFaraz | people already do that |
| 18:42.45 | ZarafFaraz | lol |
| 18:42.50 | Tordy | they're do it even more frequently! |
| 18:42.53 | Xaragoth | not like that will change |
| 18:43.19 | ZarafFaraz | this new map Bounty is making seems like an extension of Planetary Bosses....with just smaller bosses |
| 18:43.20 | Tordy | for something like nexus wars, it's all about # of times you nukes though |
| 18:43.35 | Tordy | well not all about it |
| 18:43.53 | Tordy | hi ZarafFaraz |
| 18:43.58 | ZarafFaraz | sup Tordy |
| 18:44.22 | Tordy | my map is crashing some people and i cant figure out why D: |
| 18:44.29 | Tordy | it crashes some people but not others |
| 18:44.31 | ZarafFaraz | yeah I saw a thread about that |
| 18:44.35 | Tordy | ;o |
| 18:44.40 | ZarafFaraz | what did you change recently? |
| 18:44.46 | Tordy | i tried my map on 3 different computers |
| 18:44.51 | Tordy | they all didnt crash |
| 18:44.54 | Bounty | ZaraFaraz, it only seems like planetary boss bc of Zeratul lol |
| 18:44.58 | Bounty | Hes the only class thats in atm |
| 18:44.59 | Tordy | 2 of which are shitt integrated GPUs |
| 18:45.04 | Bounty | and hes not even done |
| 18:45.07 | Tordy | and they seem to do fine |
| 18:45.09 | Tordy | hi Bounty |
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| 18:45.14 | Bounty | Hi |
| 18:45.15 | Tordy | hi Otixa |
| 18:45.24 | ZarafFaraz | Bounty, you had Arthas in Planetary Bosses lol |
| 18:45.25 | Ousnius | -.- |
| 18:45.30 | Tordy | :) |
| 18:45.34 | Bounty | yeah just for the contest lol |
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| 18:45.46 | ZarafFaraz | did you get that crowd idea from my submission? |
| 18:45.54 | Tordy | what the heck!? |
| 18:46.02 | Ousnius | MY TOES ARE FROZEEEEEN!!! |
| 18:46.03 | Tordy | has it crashed for you ZarafFaraz ? |
| 18:46.05 | Ousnius | !!1 |
| 18:46.07 | Bounty | crowd idea? |
| 18:46.09 | ZarafFaraz | nah Tordy |
| 18:46.11 | Bounty | what submission? |
| 18:46.29 | ZarafFaraz | yeah, in your video you got the fans and crowd. I also made a crowd in my intro video and my boss video |
| 18:46.53 | Bounty | well i have fans and a crowd because thats how you win matches lol |
| 18:46.57 | Tordy | gonna try to remove initializatoin triggers and actions one by one on a test map to see if i can narrow down the crash |
| 18:47.01 | Bounty | you have to win the crowd over |
| 18:47.03 | ZarafFaraz | ahh |
| 18:47.04 | Bounty | its a tug of war |
| 18:47.16 | ZarafFaraz | Tordy, it's not like it matters much since your games don't last more than like 2 min |
| 18:47.41 | Tordy | no it matters because if it at least 1 player in the map crashes, then everyone else in the map will stal |
| 18:47.43 | Tordy | stall |
| 18:47.53 | Tordy | and it'll cause some drops |
| 18:47.58 | Tordy | no one likes stalling |
| 18:48.00 | ZarafFaraz | ahh |
| 18:48.22 | ZarafFaraz | maybe bnet nroke |
| 18:48.26 | ZarafFaraz | broke |
| 18:48.36 | Tordy | nah it's not bnet |
| 18:48.50 | ZarafFaraz | maybe you broke |
| 18:48.53 | Tordy | what could be in triggers that would cause some people to crash but not others? |
| 18:49.04 | ZarafFaraz | desync? |
| 18:49.08 | Tordy | no it's not desync |
| 18:49.18 | ZarafFaraz | haha desync was ALWAYS the culprit in WC3 |
| 18:49.53 | Tordy | can desync still happen in single player? |
| 18:49.54 | ZarafFaraz | "Help!! My single player map is crashing!!" It's cause of desync lol |
| 18:49.59 | ZarafFaraz | no, that's the joke |
| 18:50.00 | Tordy | ^ |
| 18:50.04 | Jum-Jum | lol |
| 18:50.07 | Tordy | xd |
| 18:50.18 | Tordy | well yea i ruled out desync because people kept crashing even in singleplayer mode |
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| 18:51.22 | Tordy | devoting 100% attention on the crashing atm since quite a few people are experiencing it |
| 18:52.07 | Tordy | could it have anything to do with settings? |
| 18:52.10 | Tordy | video settings |
| 18:52.15 | Tordy | something |
| 18:52.16 | Tordy | hope not |
| 18:52.24 | Tordy | hope it's not laoding/saving either |
| 18:52.37 | Tordy | i removed loading/saving in my test map |
| 18:52.50 | Tordy | waiiting for feedback from people that kept crashing to test the test map |
| 18:54.14 | Tordy | yo SNOOOKI |
| 18:57.13 | Helral | meows |
| 18:57.53 | Bounty | >< |
| 18:58.25 | Helral | meows |
| 18:58.28 | Dustin | o.O |
| 18:58.56 | Helral | looks around the IRC channel for something to play with. |
| 18:59.45 | Bounty | Nothing makes you feel better then when the only word people can respond to your map with is WOW |
| 18:59.58 | Tordy | i said wow |
| 19:00.03 | Bounty | Usually only happens onl the bnet forums though |
| 19:00.04 | Helral | I can respond with another word. |
| 19:00.21 | Bounty | i think those people can only speak in one word sentences |
| 19:00.29 | Helral | meows |
| 19:00.35 | Tordy | wel what else can they say |
| 19:00.40 | Helral | meow |
| 19:00.44 | Tordy | it's good? |
| 19:00.54 | Tordy | keep it short and simple |
| 19:00.57 | Tordy | wow is good enough |
| 19:01.07 | Tordy | for the standardized sc2 review form |
| 19:01.13 | Helral | wow isn't good ;p |
| 19:01.37 | Tordy | Helral i need a dedicated linux box to run apache tomcat you got a moment |
| 19:01.53 | Helral | hmmm? |
| 19:02.04 | Tordy | nyaaaa~ |
| 19:02.05 | Helral | did you install apache yet or not? |
| 19:02.16 | Tordy | cours |
| 19:02.18 | Helral | meows |
| 19:02.22 | Tordy | freakin catgirls DIE |
| 19:02.27 | Tordy | hi Helral |
| 19:02.30 | Helral | don't kill the catgirls :P |
| 19:02.46 | Helral | I wanna have them all in my harem. |
| 19:02.59 | Dustin | What's your problem Tordy? |
| 19:03.08 | Tordy | I believe that fish and human beings can coexist peacefully. |
| 19:03.10 | Helral | I meowed him insane ;p |
| 19:03.30 | RodOfNOD | vent Helral |
| 19:03.31 | Helral | dolfins aren't fish. |
| 19:03.44 | Dustin | Dolphins rape people |
| 19:03.46 | Tordy | well then dolphins cant coexist peacefully with humans! |
| 19:03.57 | Dustin | True story, they drag people to dolphin rape caves |
| 19:04.01 | Xaragoth | DOLPHINS ARE THE FUTURE! |
| 19:04.05 | Dustin | And we never see the people again |
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| 19:04.36 | Tordy | the koreans are already taking over sc2 |
| 19:04.44 | Tordy | top 10 players in the world are koreans |
| 19:04.57 | Tordy | us north americans and europeans had our moment |
| 19:05.02 | Tordy | but it's all over now :/ |
| 19:05.34 | Tordy | btw fake boxer seems like the flash of sc2 |
| 19:05.39 | Tordy | he's 17 |
| 19:05.42 | Tordy | crazy young |
| 19:05.46 | Tordy | and he's hella good |
| 19:05.58 | Tordy | inhuman marine micro |
| 19:05.59 | Tordy | good god |
| 19:06.33 | Xaragoth | and when he gets older |
| 19:06.37 | Xaragoth | he gets dragging into the army |
| 19:06.40 | Xaragoth | and is gone for good. |
| 19:07.04 | Tordy | :( |
| 19:07.06 | Tordy | damn shame |
| 19:09.39 | Jum-Jum | nah |
| 19:09.49 | Jum-Jum | slayersboxer is 30 also went to the army |
| 19:09.54 | Jum-Jum | got pretty high up in GSL |
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| 19:13.02 | Bibendus | http://classic.battle.net/mod/ |
| 19:13.05 | Bibendus | i found it! |
| 19:16.36 | Dustin | Found what? |
| 19:16.46 | Bibendus | the link |
| 19:16.48 | Bibendus | :D |
| 19:16.49 | Bibendus | watch it |
| 19:17.40 | Dustin | there is no video just the old wc3 maps bnet site |
| 19:18.43 | Bibendus | who talked about videos :D |
| 19:18.48 | Bibendus | they are the old wc3 map contests |
| 19:18.52 | Bibendus | they were fucking great |
| 19:19.23 | Bibendus | better then the sc2 map contest :| |
| 19:21.16 | Dustin | You said watch it |
| 19:21.22 | Dustin | that usually implies a video to watch :P |
| 19:22.02 | Bibendus | look it |
| 19:22.02 | Bibendus | xD |
| 19:22.11 | Bibendus | i m italian |
| 19:22.14 | Bibendus | so my english suckz |
| 19:23.13 | Dustin | It's cool, just clarifying :) |
| 19:24.03 | Bibendus | did u see |
| 19:24.11 | Bibendus | we had... ratings |
| 19:24.14 | Bibendus | honorable mentions! |
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| 19:31.46 | LordAbyss | (Number of Living units in (Units in (Any units in (Entire map) owned by player Any Player matching Excluded: Missile, Dead, Hidden, with at most Any Amount) owned by player 1, with at most Any Amount)) == 1 |
| 19:31.49 | LordAbyss | >.> |
| 19:31.55 | LordAbyss | :D |
| 19:34.24 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 19:34.26 | Bibendus | and? |
| 19:35.10 | LordAbyss | people don't like that much crap |
| 19:35.17 | LordAbyss | but its probably the easiest way to do it |
| 19:42.12 | currydevil | what do you mean that much crap? how else would you do it? lol |
| 19:42.29 | LordAbyss | more crap then what amount of crap i posted |
| 19:42.59 | currydevil | not sure what you mean by that much crap though ;) i make triggers with more crap if that's what you're talking about |
| 19:43.37 | Bounty | every trigger i make has a chance of jumping out of bounds lol |
| 19:43.45 | LordAbyss | compared to that comparison in wc3 |
| 19:43.52 | currydevil | oh well |
| 19:43.53 | LordAbyss | thats a hell lot crap |
| 19:43.56 | LordAbyss | ;) |
| 19:44.00 | currydevil | the editor is also different. |
| 19:44.38 | currydevil | but you wouldn't exatly want a missile unit triggering something it wasn't supposed to eh? hence the crap =P |
| 19:44.42 | LordAbyss | yea |
| 19:44.43 | currydevil | exactly* |
| 19:44.48 | LordAbyss | its more complex |
| 19:44.49 | Dustin | Its also a hell of a lot more flexible :P |
| 19:44.55 | currydevil | ;) |
| 19:44.57 | LordAbyss | but more exact and flexible |
| 19:45.40 | Dustin | who wants to just give me money to live so I dont have to to go to work and can just make SC2 maps all day? |
| 19:45.47 | sana | Bibendus |
| 19:45.53 | Bibendus | hat |
| 19:45.59 | sana | You're really critical of the map contest winners |
| 19:46.07 | sana | would you like to playtest zergling round-up with me? |
| 19:46.14 | sana | to get an impression of what it's lik |
| 19:46.15 | sana | e |
| 19:46.16 | Bibendus | are u the guy |
| 19:46.18 | Bibendus | that made the map? |
| 19:46.20 | sana | yes |
| 19:46.20 | Dustin | He is |
| 19:46.22 | Bibendus | sure i want |
| 19:46.25 | Bibendus | to see how it is |
| 19:46.27 | sana | sana.317 |
| 19:46.32 | sana | Im doing some final playtests |
| 19:46.34 | sana | to kill the final bugs |
| 19:46.35 | Bibendus | eu or us' |
| 19:46.37 | sana | it might be very buggy |
| 19:46.38 | sana | ohh |
| 19:46.40 | sana | EU |
| 19:46.41 | Bounty | ... |
| 19:46.44 | Bibendus | it can't be buggy |
| 19:46.44 | Dustin | Ewww eu |
| 19:46.45 | sana | i keep forgetting that |
| 19:46.46 | Bibendus | if it won :| |
| 19:46.48 | Bounty | so its not even finished? |
| 19:46.51 | Bounty | how did it win |
| 19:46.52 | Bounty | rofl |
| 19:46.53 | Bibendus | lol |
| 19:46.53 | sana | nah it wasnt buggy then |
| 19:46.59 | sana | i just improved it a lot since then |
| 19:46.59 | Bibendus | epic contest fail :D |
| 19:47.05 | sana | it was pretty solid in the contest version |
| 19:47.12 | Bounty | I still think Sorcerers Defense should have gotten SOMETHING |
| 19:47.22 | sana | we have another playtester slot |
| 19:47.24 | Bounty | like 20 bucks |
| 19:47.27 | Bounty | anything |
| 19:47.28 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:47.29 | sana | who else would like to join |
| 19:47.40 | sana | itll be real quick |
| 19:47.42 | sana | -ish |
| 19:47.48 | sana | come on :) |
| 19:47.50 | Bounty | ill do this |
| 19:47.55 | sana | EU? |
| 19:48.01 | Bounty | no |
| 19:48.02 | Bounty | US |
| 19:48.04 | sana | aw |
| 19:48.05 | sana | too bad |
| 19:48.10 | sana | any EUs around? guess not |
| 19:48.14 | Bounty | darn... |
| 19:48.15 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:48.43 | sana | Bibendus |
| 19:48.50 | sana | ah nvm |
| 19:49.00 | Bounty | Honestly sana |
| 19:49.03 | Bibendus | online :D |
| 19:49.07 | Bounty | I wouldnt even want to justify winning |
| 19:49.13 | Bounty | I would just say |
| 19:49.17 | Bounty | I got the money, thats it |
| 19:49.20 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:49.25 | Bounty | so even if u hate it |
| 19:49.29 | Bounty | u still got teh moenyz |
| 19:49.33 | sana | I'm pretty chill man |
| 19:49.37 | sana | but I still want people to think well of my map |
| 19:49.45 | sana | i thought "oh shit, i won the contest, thats an amazing entry for a portfolio" |
| 19:49.47 | sana | but if people keep bashing it.. |
| 19:49.52 | sana | it wont be of much use |
| 19:50.04 | Bounty | did u not see other people entries though? |
| 19:50.11 | sana | im afraid i... didnt |
| 19:50.14 | Bounty | thats why ppl are mad lol |
| 19:50.15 | sana | i played photon command later |
| 19:50.23 | sana | but never tried MAD |
| 19:50.28 | Bounty | photon command is polished but thats it |
| 19:50.32 | Bounty | i dont see whats so special about it |
| 19:50.42 | Bibendus | mad is good |
| 19:50.49 | Bibendus | but.. said it thousand of times |
| 19:50.52 | Bibendus | already released on beta |
| 19:50.54 | Bounty | yeah but it shouldnt have won |
| 19:50.55 | Bounty | yeah |
| 19:50.57 | Bounty | exactly |
| 19:51.02 | Bounty | wtf happend to the rules |
| 19:51.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:51.05 | sana | we still need one more :x |
| 19:51.06 | Bibendus | dunno |
| 19:51.13 | Bibendus | bounty |
| 19:51.14 | Bibendus | did u see |
| 19:51.20 | Bibendus | the old wc3 contests? |
| 19:51.24 | Bounty | nah |
| 19:51.25 | sana | MAD wasnt released in retail sc2, how should they have known? |
| 19:51.33 | Bibendus | http://classic.battle.net/mod/ |
| 19:51.35 | Bibendus | watch |
| 19:51.38 | Bounty | because he showed it to people sana |
| 19:51.42 | Bibendus | how a contest should be made |
| 19:51.42 | Bounty | that was one of teh rules |
| 19:51.49 | Bounty | u were not allowed to show it to anyone |
| 19:52.01 | sana | thats incorrect |
| 19:52.27 | sana | it musnt be released to the public - and I assume they checked that by seeing if the map in question was released on battle.net anywhere |
| 19:52.41 | sana | i doubt they keep archives of the beta b.net custom map list |
| 19:52.49 | sana | or investigate every of the 500 entries |
| 19:53.20 | Bounty | do they have the rules up still? |
| 19:53.22 | Bounty | ill show u lol |
| 19:53.25 | Bibendus | and what |
| 19:53.29 | Bibendus | if you delete a published map? |
| 19:53.34 | Bibendus | is that valid too? |
| 19:53.46 | Bibendus | that's not a technical "it's online now" |
| 19:53.49 | sana | besides |
| 19:53.53 | sana | that was there for legal reasons |
| 19:53.59 | Bibendus | it was a rule to force people to make new maps |
| 19:54.05 | Bibendus | that noone have seen before the contest |
| 19:54.08 | sana | How to Enter: To enter, a qualified entrant will complete the entry checklist and thereafter submit an original, unreleased, UMS custom map created with the StarCraft II World Editor (each submission referred to herein as a "Map") at www.blizzcon.com. A "UMS" custom map is a map created using the StarCraft II map editor that uses custom settings defined by the user with customizable win conditions, units, triggers, and other com |
| 19:54.11 | Bibendus | so it would have been a surprise |
| 19:54.13 | sana | >original, unreleased |
| 19:54.17 | sana | not released on battle.net |
| 19:54.20 | sana | beta is beta |
| 19:54.30 | Bounty | thats nto all the rules... |
| 19:54.31 | Bibendus | do u see something talking about beta? |
| 19:54.34 | Bibendus | unreleased |
| 19:54.36 | Bibendus | it unreleased |
| 19:54.41 | sana | don't put things into their mouth :x |
| 19:54.42 | Bibendus | no interpretations |
| 19:54.56 | sana | Acemore explained more than well enough why they mightve chosen it |
| 19:54.58 | progammer | sana: who says no realese on bnet ? |
| 19:55.00 | Bibendus | why are you winnin guys |
| 19:55.01 | sana | and he himself admitted he doesnt think its fair |
| 19:55.03 | Bibendus | defending eachother? |
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| 19:55.24 | Bibendus | sana we understood how they choosed |
| 19:55.33 | Bibendus | but they didn't explain it in the rules |
| 19:55.39 | Bibendus | we are complaining about that |
| 19:55.42 | Bounty | i dont understand how they chose... |
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| 19:55.47 | progammer | nah just let it go |
| 19:55.47 | Bibendus | watch |
| 19:55.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:55.51 | Bibendus | the acemore reply |
| 19:56.00 | Bounty | where? |
| 19:56.12 | Bibendus | in the huge thread |
| 19:56.13 | Bibendus | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/14019-sc2-custom-map-contest-what-a-fail/?page=4#p71 |
| 19:56.14 | Bibendus | search it |
| 19:56.17 | Bibendus | progammer |
| 19:56.23 | Bibendus | did u see how well done the wc3 contests were made? |
| 19:56.25 | sana | "why are you winners defending each other?" |
| 19:56.26 | sana | pretty obvious |
| 19:56.39 | sana | because that thread blew everything out of proportion |
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| 19:57.28 | crazyfingers | yeah, sucks to win the competition and be turned into a villian |
| 19:57.32 | Bibendus | just because blizzard failed.. |
| 19:57.36 | Bibendus | u can't stop our complain |
| 19:57.38 | Bibendus | if it's right |
| 19:57.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:57.47 | Bounty | i like his one response |
| 19:57.52 | Bounty | "I come from the airline business" |
| 19:57.59 | Bibendus | lol |
| 19:58.06 | Bounty | When something goes wrong we dont point fingers |
| 19:58.12 | Bounty | We find a way to prevent it from happening again! |
| 19:58.14 | sana | gosh is it so hard to find a fourth EU playtester :x |
| 19:58.15 | Bibendus | the good answer |
| 19:58.15 | Bounty | lolol |
| 19:58.15 | sana | cmon guys |
| 19:58.17 | Bibendus | is some pages before |
| 19:58.24 | Bibendus | sana |
| 19:58.26 | Bibendus | can't we play in 3? |
| 19:58.31 | sana | we can i guess |
| 19:58.37 | sana | but i figured it'd be better this way |
| 19:58.37 | Bibendus | then let's do it :D |
| 19:58.39 | sana | right |
| 19:58.52 | Bibendus | <-- testing zergling thing map :D |
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| 19:59.56 | Bounty | ok so basically |
| 20:00.01 | Bounty | the contest was |
| 20:00.14 | Bounty | 5k to whoever can develope the most dumbed down game so we can show it off in 15 mins? |
| 20:00.23 | Bounty | thats what it was? lol |
| 20:00.35 | crazyfingers | that's what it ended up being, but what can you do? |
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| 20:00.49 | crazyfingers | i don't think blizzard knew what was going on from beggining to end |
| 20:01.01 | crazyfingers | lots of hypotheticals of what they thought the custom map scene would be |
| 20:01.06 | crazyfingers | and as the contest went on things changed |
| 20:01.12 | Bounty | all they said was custom map contest |
| 20:01.14 | Bounty | lolol |
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| 20:01.29 | Bounty | what a stupid way to pick a contest winner |
| 20:01.34 | Bounty | eliminate the deep ones right off the bat |
| 20:01.47 | Bounty | because people only have 15 mins to play them at blizzcon so it cant have depth |
| 20:01.54 | Bounty | sigh |
| 20:01.55 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:02.42 | crazyfingers | pretty much divided my team and killed my project when we lossed |
| 20:02.48 | crazyfingers | *lost |
| 20:03.26 | crazyfingers | best thing to have happened to the community would have been to have no contest |
| 20:03.44 | Dustin | They need to have another one so I can win it |
| 20:03.52 | crazyfingers | let people keep learning the editor, rather than rush something and be disapointed with a contest and a shit hosting system at the same time |
| 20:05.56 | Bounty | MAD stayed at like 5 games an hour until it got boosted lol |
| 20:06.11 | Bounty | even on the forums, nobody cared |
| 20:06.26 | Bounty | so that further disproved the VIRAL ADVERTISING theory proposed at blizzcon |
| 20:08.50 | Dustin | WEll if people dont want to play your map all the advertising in the world isnt gonna help it :P |
| 20:09.15 | Dustin | I'm looking at SC2 map making as more of a HL Mod kind of feeling |
| 20:09.21 | Bounty | but for some reason they magicaly want to play it when u bump it lol |
| 20:09.31 | Dustin | Cause people are lazy |
| 20:09.37 | Bounty | Sheep :) |
| 20:09.40 | Bounty | follow the herds! |
| 20:09.40 | Acemore | they don't want to click the 'show more' button |
| 20:09.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:09.57 | Acemore | great system indeed |
| 20:10.05 | Dustin | Not to mention its hard as fuck to find anything worthwhile in their searches |
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| 20:10.36 | Ashamed | so someone just told me within the next 14 days the American dollars is going to drop to 10 cents....>< lol |
| 20:10.44 | Dustin | Yeah no :P |
| 20:10.56 | Ashamed | ... but dude there is some fishy shit aboard for sure |
| 20:11.17 | Ashamed | ... obama as taken like 24 warships with him accross the sea... took the entire white house staff.. and his family |
| 20:11.43 | Dustin | Whaaaa |
| 20:11.47 | Dustin | Whered you hear this |
| 20:11.49 | Ashamed | so obama is spending about 200 million dollars a day right now |
| 20:11.52 | Dustin | Fuck are they just gonna nuke us |
| 20:11.58 | Ashamed | LOL |
| 20:12.05 | Ashamed | my freind told me 2 nukes |
| 20:12.07 | Ashamed | are with them |
| 20:12.12 | Ashamed | but i havn't read anything that confirmed that |
| 20:12.14 | Dustin | Wonder wtf they are doing |
| 20:12.30 | Jum-Jum | they are going to nuke america |
| 20:12.33 | Jum-Jum | and then invade it |
| 20:12.36 | Jum-Jum | ! |
| 20:12.40 | Ashamed | lol |
| 20:12.48 | Dustin | Thatd be fucked up |
| 20:12.59 | Ashamed | oh and its the most a president has ever had follow him |
| 20:13.04 | P_R_Deltoid | so |
| 20:13.05 | P_R_Deltoid | apparently |
| 20:13.08 | P_R_Deltoid | erm |
| 20:13.09 | P_R_Deltoid | wrong chnale |
| 20:13.10 | Dustin | Obama gets pissed with the republicans taking majority so he says fuck it we're gonna nuke and make it our own country |
| 20:13.17 | Ashamed | lol |
| 20:13.22 | Jum-Jum | hahaha |
| 20:13.31 | Dustin | I'd be pissed |
| 20:13.39 | Jum-Jum | "Whos yo' president naow!?" |
| 20:13.41 | Jum-Jum | *nukes* |
| 20:13.41 | Dustin | if I lived through that nuke, I'd be like Diehard |
| 20:14.01 | Dustin | Alllll up on that bitch |
| 20:14.12 | Ashamed | but i guess my friends girl friends dad bought like a year of food..got a gun, and some bio suits. |
| 20:14.17 | Ashamed | like they really think its going to happen |
| 20:14.38 | Ashamed | http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-64459 |
| 20:14.45 | Ashamed | oh its 34 warships |
| 20:14.47 | Bibendus | sry |
| 20:14.49 | Bibendus | but i must confirm |
| 20:14.51 | Bibendus | my idea |
| 20:15.11 | sana | /shrug |
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| 20:15.25 | Bibendus | however it's polished |
| 20:15.26 | Ashamed | if it does happen.. if any of yall can make it to the rocky mountains, " colorado" I am going to create a village up there somewhere |
| 20:15.35 | Araxnid | hi people |
| 20:15.37 | Ashamed | grow weed for trade |
| 20:15.59 | Bibendus | even the progammer bomberman remake |
| 20:16.01 | Bibendus | was more funny |
| 20:16.02 | Bibendus | :| |
| 20:16.07 | Araxnid | can someone help me with AI? i wanaa to setup, that ai will sometimes launch some number of troops in random areas of map |
| 20:16.10 | Araxnid | or in map =) |
| 20:16.16 | sana | well thats just like, your opinion man |
| 20:16.17 | Dustin | Ashamed, I'll be there. |
| 20:16.36 | Bibendus | it lacks of gameplay |
| 20:16.37 | Bibendus | did u see |
| 20:16.40 | Bibendus | the other entries? |
| 20:16.44 | sana | nope |
| 20:16.48 | Bibendus | at least |
| 20:16.51 | Bibendus | i think your zergling map |
| 20:16.58 | Ashamed | http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/11/pentagon-dismisses-reports-of-34-warships-for-obama-trip-security.html |
| 20:16.58 | Bibendus | is better then the photon cannon thing |
| 20:17.06 | Ashamed | that says they are not doing it |
| 20:17.06 | Bibendus | that's even more boring |
| 20:17.19 | progammer | sana: btw can we get some coverage of the map on mapster |
| 20:17.23 | Bibendus | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/11340-contest-share-your-blizzard-custom-submissions/ |
| 20:17.25 | Bibendus | watch this thread |
| 20:17.36 | progammer | Bibendus: is that on there ? |
| 20:17.39 | RodOfNOD | Ashamed its so ridiculous what the right is pushing with this india trip |
| 20:17.42 | progammer | zergling etc |
| 20:17.45 | Bibendus | talking to sana |
| 20:17.46 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:17.53 | Bibendus | that didn't see other submissions |
| 20:18.02 | sana | progammer i'm trying to release it asap but i wanna be completely sure theres no bugs |
| 20:18.06 | sana | in fact ididnt notice any last game at all! |
| 20:18.08 | Bibendus | even if i hate spaceships game |
| 20:18.12 | Bibendus | there was a really good one |
| 20:18.19 | progammer | sana: ok make sure you have a project page and a video |
| 20:18.25 | Bibendus | cosmic eclipse |
| 20:18.26 | progammer | not that you wont get flamed by other ppl |
| 20:18.29 | sana | video's gonna be hard |
| 20:18.31 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIdvQ32WBjE&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:18.36 | Araxnid | okay, so another question |
| 20:18.44 | sana | hope i can make a video off a replay |
| 20:18.47 | sana | else shit's gonna lag |
| 20:18.48 | Araxnid | how to setup ai - that he will "recreate" looses? |
| 20:19.03 | Dustin | ? |
| 20:19.04 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5xNAb5kZRs&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:19.24 | Dustin | What do you mean recreate loses? |
| 20:19.40 | sana | but yeah |
| 20:20.13 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rhExoAUNzE&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:20.24 | Bibendus | THIS should have been 1 of the winner for sure: |
| 20:20.24 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbNgA0si1o8&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:20.41 | Ashamed | Cosmic Eclipse looks fucken amazing |
| 20:20.49 | crazyfingers | :D |
| 20:20.58 | crazyfingers | thanks, it's open source if you want to download it |
| 20:20.59 | Bibendus | we had a cool Z remake |
| 20:21.00 | crazyfingers | and try it out |
| 20:21.09 | Bibendus | a space ship well made game |
| 20:21.14 | Bibendus | a fucking awesome final fantasy rpg |
| 20:21.19 | Bibendus | final fantasy style |
| 20:21.30 | rrowland | best thing about CE was the models, I hear that guy's pretty awesome |
| 20:21.37 | Ashamed | do you have the ship on the z axis too? |
| 20:21.38 | Bibendus | a really origina lmap where u fight shapes lol |
| 20:21.42 | Bibendus | the rrowland sidescroller |
| 20:21.56 | Bibendus | good but a bit messy |
| 20:21.57 | crazyfingers | haha, bovine intervention was cool too but i hear that dudes a slacker ;) |
| 20:22.12 | Bibendus | not enough polished for me |
| 20:22.15 | rrowland | Not a slacker lol, just got set up with a new job |
| 20:22.23 | Bibendus | still better then other submissions ;) |
| 20:22.28 | rrowland | And PM looks like he's officially bailed |
| 20:22.35 | rrowland | So all the data's up to me |
| 20:22.37 | crazyfingers | saw that coming |
| 20:22.41 | crazyfingers | from day one haha |
| 20:22.57 | rrowland | I was hoping he'd take an interest and it would be different from the norm |
| 20:22.59 | rrowland | But nope |
| 20:23.14 | crazyfingers | dunno if you guys saw that recent gordon freeman animation |
| 20:23.19 | crazyfingers | it was on kotaku |
| 20:23.26 | crazyfingers | but i'm going to try to get him on board to animate our characters |
| 20:23.32 | crazyfingers | he's part of the art community i go to |
| 20:23.42 | crazyfingers | long shot but hey gonna send him a message |
| 20:23.49 | rrowland | Sweet |
| 20:23.52 | crazyfingers | seems like he wants to impress valve |
| 20:23.53 | Bibendus | link |
| 20:23.55 | Bibendus | crazy |
| 20:24.06 | crazyfingers | and this is right up that alley considering they're making dota |
| 20:24.08 | crazyfingers | a hero pvp map |
| 20:24.09 | rrowland | The first day I posted our recruitment it seemed I had some data editors interested |
| 20:24.19 | rrowland | Now that we need a data editor there's nobody to be found |
| 20:24.26 | sana | oh yeah.. gotta add the jukebox music |
| 20:24.26 | Bibendus | typing game |
| 20:24.30 | Bibendus | was a bit boring |
| 20:24.35 | crazyfingers | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N9Zq-_9Er8&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:24.37 | Bibendus | polished but boring |
| 20:24.38 | sana | dont talk shit about typing of the dead son |
| 20:24.39 | crazyfingers | that's the animation |
| 20:24.46 | Bibendus | Typing of the Zerg |
| 20:25.00 | sana | its based off it, it must be amazing! |
| 20:25.04 | crazyfingers | i still think you should nab mephs |
| 20:25.10 | Bibendus | diablo tristran |
| 20:25.12 | crazyfingers | and force him to accept items and skill progression |
| 20:25.15 | Bibendus | kiddy style :| |
| 20:25.26 | Bibendus | sana did u watch |
| 20:25.28 | Bibendus | the other videos? |
| 20:25.35 | sana | no |
| 20:25.39 | Bibendus | watch them |
| 20:25.41 | sana | i didnt watch anything about any other contest entry |
| 20:25.45 | Bibendus | and tell me if you really think your map was better :| |
| 20:25.47 | rrowland | I talked to mephs |
| 20:26.00 | rrowland | He said he's focused on his left 4 gay game |
| 20:26.09 | sana | I don't, but I talked to the blizz community team guys and i must admit i get where they come from |
| 20:26.21 | Bibendus | from secret rules and criteria |
| 20:26.22 | rrowland | But he showed me his map on bnet |
| 20:26.23 | Bibendus | yes |
| 20:26.34 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@173-25-23-86.client.mchsi.com) |
| 20:26.34 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 20:26.36 | Bibendus | and that's the reason of that post |
| 20:26.36 | sana | yes but then again you and other people whine about the contest for weeks now |
| 20:26.39 | rrowland | His skills are kinda cool, he could definitely data edit on our project |
| 20:26.41 | sana | so i have a hard time deciding who's worse |
| 20:26.51 | sana | especially with some people posting stuff like |
| 20:26.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster Teddy|AFK (~minivan2k@adsl-75-26-184-204.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:27.03 | sana | omg how dare they not pay me for a fun hobby i do in my free time |
| 20:27.11 | sana | i will boycott blizzard and wait for premium maps |
| 20:27.21 | sana | because, of course, I am the best mapper in the world and its 100% guaranteed my stuff will be premium |
| 20:27.22 | Bibendus | don't care about trolls |
| 20:27.24 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:27.35 | sana | that kind of stuff just makes you facepalm - i didnt expect sc2mapster to be like that |
| 20:27.36 | Bibendus | and I didn't finish my map in time so I'm neutral |
| 20:27.44 | rrowland | Hey sana |
| 20:27.46 | rrowland | Who are you |
| 20:27.47 | Bibendus | just honest |
| 20:27.50 | Bibendus | the guy that made |
| 20:27.53 | Bibendus | zergling round-up |
| 20:27.55 | Bounty | Yeah but its easy to say that stuff sana when you did in fact get paid lol |
| 20:28.03 | rrowland | Zergling roundup and photon defense were trash, sorry |
| 20:28.10 | sana | you were there? |
| 20:28.12 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:28.13 | rrowland | Yes |
| 20:28.15 | rrowland | I was at blizzcon |
| 20:28.16 | sana | right |
| 20:28.17 | Bibendus | lolz |
| 20:28.21 | sana | i talked to SOME guy from sc2mapster |
| 20:28.39 | Jum-Jum | it was probably rrowland :P |
| 20:28.41 | sana | sadly cannot remember who it was, but i assume there were a bunch |
| 20:28.42 | rrowland | Are you the kid who went up to the stage and said he was a winner? |
| 20:28.42 | rrowland | lol |
| 20:28.52 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:28.53 | sana | hmm no i didnt do that |
| 20:29.00 | rrowland | So you made zergling roundup? |
| 20:29.01 | Bibendus | then is the photon command guy |
| 20:29.01 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:29.08 | Bibendus | now we got him! |
| 20:29.08 | Bibendus | ah |
| 20:29.15 | sana | yes |
| 20:29.16 | Bibendus | that was soo hilarious |
| 20:29.22 | rrowland | Ah I see |
| 20:29.22 | sana | i dont remember anything like that though |
| 20:29.24 | Bibendus | i won the map contest, how many suckers did I beat? |
| 20:29.29 | sana | i attended half the custom maps panel |
| 20:29.33 | Bibendus | that was the meaning |
| 20:29.34 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:29.36 | rrowland | Now I see why you're militant about people dogging on your shitty map |
| 20:29.40 | sana | with the rainbow archon and stuff |
| 20:29.44 | Bounty | How was the tension during that custom map panel? |
| 20:29.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:29.49 | Jum-Jum | Did you make photon command Bibendus? |
| 20:29.53 | Bibendus | no lol |
| 20:29.56 | Bibendus | i m not that kid |
| 20:29.57 | Bibendus | xD |
| 20:30.06 | Jum-Jum | you may proceed then |
| 20:30.07 | Bibendus | i was imitading him |
| 20:30.09 | sana | militant? i dunno m8 |
| 20:30.30 | Sixen | Bibendus, who was that kid |
| 20:30.33 | sana | just showed bibendus the current version of it that i plan to release in a few |
| 20:30.33 | Sixen | The Photon Command kid? |
| 20:30.38 | Bibendus | the guy from photon command |
| 20:30.41 | Bibendus | i suppose |
| 20:30.41 | Bounty | Anyone want to help me test one of the bosses from Win the Crowd? |
| 20:30.42 | Sixen | gotcha |
| 20:30.42 | sana | off he goes |
| 20:30.48 | Bounty | Anyone? :) |
| 20:30.50 | Bibendus | if sana excludes himself |
| 20:30.51 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:31.05 | Bibendus | no bounty, I'm complaining about the map contest |
| 20:31.06 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:31.07 | sana | can you guys link me what youre talking about |
| 20:31.09 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:31.11 | Bounty | its ok |
| 20:31.14 | Bounty | power to you brotha |
| 20:31.16 | Bounty | :) |
| 20:31.42 | Bounty | how about you Sixen? |
| 20:32.00 | currydevil | aww crazyfingers the loading screen for CE is made for a wider screen than mine =( |
| 20:32.20 | Sixen | how about me what |
| 20:32.29 | Bibendus | h |
| 20:32.34 | Bibendus | watching rrowland advertising |
| 20:32.35 | Bibendus | xD |
| 20:32.35 | currydevil | not everyone has a 20" + monitor >.> lol |
| 20:32.36 | crazyfingers | hehe, it was beta! |
| 20:32.37 | Bounty | Would you like to help me test one of the bosses for Win the Crowd real fast? |
| 20:32.47 | Sixen | yeah, lol, I didn't even know rrowland said, "Sixen, come find me." |
| 20:32.54 | Sixen | Workin' on somethin', Bounty, =\ |
| 20:33.03 | Bounty | Psh |
| 20:33.11 | Bounty | You're just to busy being Sixen |
| 20:33.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster rrowland (~Ryan@pool-71-160-198-124.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 20:33.13 | Bounty | :) |
| 20:33.19 | Bibendus | oh that kid |
| 20:33.19 | Bibendus | is soo hard to find |
| 20:33.22 | rrowland | oops restarted my computer |
| 20:33.24 | Sixen | lol |
| 20:33.26 | Bibendus | everytime |
| 20:33.28 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdG9jQlQQvw |
| 20:33.43 | Bounty | whos that dude |
| 20:33.50 | Sixen | LOL |
| 20:33.53 | Bibendus | i cant find him |
| 20:33.54 | Sixen | Do you see his shirt? |
| 20:33.54 | Bibendus | ARGHHH |
| 20:33.57 | rrowland | Anyway, I'm pretty over it now but yeah I was pissed the map you apparently made in like 3 days won |
| 20:33.59 | currydevil | Ahh i can't find my ship and the screen won't move? |
| 20:34.00 | Sixen | "B.net 2.0 EPIC FAIL DETECTED |
| 20:34.11 | Bibendus | soo epic :D |
| 20:34.31 | Jum-Jum | hahahaha |
| 20:34.32 | Bounty | The entire audience looks like they are about to do a facepalm |
| 20:34.43 | Jum-Jum | and he asks about the b.net |
| 20:34.49 | Sixen | yeah |
| 20:34.52 | Bibendus | ah found him |
| 20:34.53 | Bibendus | in the line |
| 20:34.55 | sana | yeah rrowland |
| 20:35.05 | Jum-Jum | "constantly looking for ways to improve battle.net aswell" |
| 20:35.08 | Jum-Jum | really... WHEN? |
| 20:35.15 | sana | i was pretty surprised too! |
| 20:35.16 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdG9jQlQQvw |
| 20:35.17 | Bibendus | 10:30 |
| 20:35.19 | Bibendus | FOUND IT! |
| 20:35.20 | currydevil | Lol crazyfingers the camera keeps turning randomly.. |
| 20:35.22 | Bibendus | watch him sana |
| 20:35.22 | Bounty | I'm sorry but |
| 20:35.23 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:35.25 | rrowland | Everyone was |
| 20:35.33 | currydevil | can't seem to see my ship either >.> |
| 20:35.34 | Bounty | Nothing beats the "Advertise your map, its viral" response |
| 20:35.39 | Bounty | Why didnt everyone get up and riot? |
| 20:35.39 | sana | phew |
| 20:35.42 | Bounty | After he said that |
| 20:35.46 | crazyfingers | weird |
| 20:35.47 | Bibendus | sana |
| 20:35.48 | Bibendus | i hope |
| 20:35.50 | Bibendus | you are not that kid |
| 20:35.52 | sana | yes |
| 20:35.54 | crazyfingers | yeah if you fly outside the map bound |
| 20:35.56 | sana | i asked a question too |
| 20:35.57 | crazyfingers | it gets wonky |
| 20:36.01 | sana | but i didnt mention i won |
| 20:36.07 | currydevil | i must have without doing anything lol |
| 20:36.08 | Jum-Jum | MisleadGuidance |
| 20:36.08 | Jum-Jum | Awkward geeks talking in front of a large crowd. Instant Entertainment. |
| 20:36.11 | Jum-Jum | that is so true |
| 20:36.12 | rrowland | I also asked a question |
| 20:36.12 | Jum-Jum | haha |
| 20:36.17 | Bounty | Whos the dude who asks like 15 questions |
| 20:36.21 | Bibendus | and you are lying to us :D |
| 20:36.21 | Bounty | Like he keeps going back up |
| 20:36.25 | Bounty | and asking how to do something |
| 20:36.26 | rrowland | But I didn't mention I lost to 2 horrible maps and one that should have been disqualified |
| 20:36.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:36.41 | rrowland | I'm classy like that |
| 20:36.48 | Jum-Jum | rrowland |
| 20:36.50 | Jum-Jum | build a bridge |
| 20:36.53 | sana | you were there, youve seen how chill those guys are |
| 20:37.00 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:37.04 | rrowland | Jum Jum |
| 20:37.05 | Bibendus | row you are a sir |
| 20:37.06 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:37.07 | rrowland | Build a dam |
| 20:37.09 | rrowland | A dental dam |
| 20:37.18 | rrowland | So you can suck my dick without catching my syphilis |
| 20:37.19 | Bounty | He prolly could |
| 20:37.20 | Jum-Jum | no no, build a bridge and get over it |
| 20:37.21 | Bounty | with all that money |
| 20:37.59 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdG9jQlQQvw |
| 20:38.01 | Bounty | 4:49 |
| 20:38.07 | Bounty | Seriously man |
| 20:38.12 | Bounty | Why didnt everyone fcking riot? |
| 20:38.20 | Bounty | after that answer |
| 20:38.20 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:38.21 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:38.55 | Bounty | if u watch that |
| 20:38.57 | rrowland | Because 99% of the blizzcon community is spineless |
| 20:39.02 | Bounty | look at the white bild guy after he answers |
| 20:39.03 | rrowland | And me on the otherhand, I want a job |
| 20:39.04 | Bounty | hes like |
| 20:39.08 | Bounty | "ahem* |
| 20:39.10 | Bibendus | ooh i would have asked |
| 20:39.12 | Bibendus | some questions |
| 20:39.12 | Jum-Jum | Wooooooooooooooooow Bounty |
| 20:39.12 | Bounty | did you really just say that? |
| 20:39.19 | Bibendus | even in my fucking stupid engitalian language |
| 20:39.21 | crazyfingers | because they spent a ton of money to be there and hadn't seen tenacious D or played diablo 3 yet |
| 20:39.30 | Bounty | Yes Jum Jum? lol |
| 20:39.31 | Jum-Jum | That is the worst.. answer... ever... |
| 20:39.36 | Bounty | yeah |
| 20:39.40 | Jum-Jum | establish your own forums |
| 20:39.43 | Jum-Jum | GOOD LUCK |
| 20:39.44 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:39.49 | Bibendus | sana |
| 20:39.49 | Bounty | u know what that answer says? |
| 20:39.51 | Bibendus | did you see it? |
| 20:39.54 | sana | is that you at 06:04 rrowland |
| 20:39.55 | Bounty | Our System sucks so you need to make your own |
| 20:39.59 | Bounty | Thats what he said |
| 20:40.00 | Bibendus | aaaaaaah |
| 20:40.01 | Bibendus | yes |
| 20:40.01 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:40.06 | Bibendus | that was just... awesome |
| 20:40.14 | Bounty | He works for Blizzard now |
| 20:40.16 | Bounty | and is saying |
| 20:40.20 | Bounty | Dont use blizzards system |
| 20:40.20 | Jum-Jum | hahahah Bounty |
| 20:40.22 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:40.23 | Bibendus | we suck, why don't you go in some crappy forum where noone will listen to you |
| 20:40.25 | rrowland | Yes that's me |
| 20:40.28 | Bibendus | wow nice idea, thanks for your answer |
| 20:40.29 | sana | right |
| 20:40.31 | sana | didnt meet you |
| 20:40.38 | sana | i met some other guy who gave me an invitation to the curse party thing |
| 20:40.43 | rrowland | No if I met you and knew who you were |
| 20:40.48 | rrowland | You'd have known it was me |
| 20:40.59 | rrowland | And hey sixen |
| 20:41.05 | rrowland | Even this fag got invited to the curse party |
| 20:41.07 | rrowland | Thanks for the fail |
| 20:41.11 | Bounty | All the dudes on the pane look like they are about to cry |
| 20:41.18 | Bounty | panel* |
| 20:41.21 | sana | i then gave it to some other mapper |
| 20:41.27 | Bounty | i could watch this video and make observations all day |
| 20:41.29 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:41.31 | Sixen | hai |
| 20:41.35 | Sixen | lol |
| 20:41.37 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:42.11 | Bounty | Watch the bald dude in between questions |
| 20:42.20 | Bounty | hes like "HOOOOLY SHIT what are they going to ask next!?" |
| 20:42.31 | Bounty | im done |
| 20:42.32 | Bounty | >< |
| 20:42.34 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:42.55 | Jum-Jum | basically everything they said before the release that got me excited for the sc2 editor wasnt there when the game was released |
| 20:42.57 | Bounty | oh shit i just saw the guy u were talking about |
| 20:42.58 | Bounty | who won |
| 20:43.06 | Bounty | Nerdfest |
| 20:43.06 | Ashamed | i hate work |
| 20:43.12 | crazyfingers | poor guy |
| 20:43.16 | crazyfingers | least he made 5k bucks |
| 20:43.16 | Jum-Jum | like how they said they would have reconnecting features, like every unit from sc1 available for custom maps, etc |
| 20:43.20 | crazyfingers | and got a free ticket |
| 20:43.38 | Bounty | yeah |
| 20:43.40 | Jum-Jum | well maybe because he made a map that was FUN |
| 20:43.48 | Jum-Jum | doesnt matter how much time you spent on a map with super cool features |
| 20:43.50 | Jum-Jum | if it isnt simple fun |
| 20:43.53 | crazyfingers | how many entries were there? There were exactly 4 entries, yours simply wasn't the worst |
| 20:43.55 | Ashamed | blizzard has missed the mark for sure |
| 20:44.18 | Bounty | Was that 50 year old guy in the video Sixen? |
| 20:44.26 | Sixen | yes |
| 20:44.34 | Bounty | Really? |
| 20:44.45 | Bounty | I thought that was just a rumor lol |
| 20:44.50 | Sixen | he asked a queston |
| 20:45.00 | Helral | who what time where? |
| 20:45.05 | sana | i hope theyll make the rainbow archon available somewhere |
| 20:45.11 | sana | or someone remakes it |
| 20:45.18 | Sixen | They never letus have the uberlisk... so... |
| 20:45.19 | Jum-Jum | what vid? |
| 20:45.21 | crazyfingers | 6 |
| 20:45.34 | currydevil | that BC is kicking my ass |
| 20:45.47 | Dustin | We understand it can do cool shit like that, now they just need to release fucking documentation |
| 20:45.53 | Bibendus | http://classic.battle.net/mod/ |
| 20:45.55 | Ashamed | lol |
| 20:45.55 | Bibendus | still noone |
| 20:45.59 | Bibendus | looked at it :| |
| 20:46.11 | sana | the contest is over |
| 20:46.15 | Dustin | Stop wasting time making rainbow archons and tell us HOW to make em |
| 20:46.22 | kaseano | hi, i'm trying to make a missile that splits into more missiles, any1 know how to do that |
| 20:46.52 | Bibendus | ask to the rainbow archon |
| 20:46.53 | Bibendus | ! |
| 20:47.04 | crazyfingers | seriously contest is over, tired of harping on it, see others harp on it |
| 20:47.05 | Bibendus | he knows all the answers |
| 20:47.09 | sana | what map did rrowland make |
| 20:47.13 | crazyfingers | life ain't fair sometimes, deal |
| 20:47.19 | Bibendus | bovine intervention |
| 20:47.22 | Bibendus | a sidescroller |
| 20:47.41 | Bounty | Alright guys, i need some feedback real fast :) |
| 20:47.52 | Bounty | Just tell me if this is epic enough |
| 20:47.53 | Bibendus | you suck |
| 20:47.54 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjRUQ6vs7fo |
| 20:47.56 | Bibendus | is it enough? |
| 20:47.57 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:48.00 | Bounty | no |
| 20:48.03 | Bounty | i needm oar |
| 20:48.09 | Bibendus | you really suck soo much |
| 20:48.10 | Bibendus | better? |
| 20:48.14 | Bounty | gettin there |
| 20:48.21 | Bibendus | oo |
| 20:48.23 | Bibendus | h |
| 20:48.26 | Bibendus | a blue low textured fire |
| 20:48.27 | Bibendus | .D |
| 20:48.37 | rrowland | you're worthless and your maps suck my wee wee |
| 20:48.43 | rrowland | better? |
| 20:48.47 | Dustin | http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/french-newspaper-exploits-911-in-ad |
| 20:48.59 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:49.11 | Bounty | ok then thanks! |
| 20:49.13 | crazyfingers | fure definitely needs a little work |
| 20:49.16 | Bibendus | is that |
| 20:49.18 | Bibendus | a wow model? |
| 20:49.22 | Bounty | yeah |
| 20:49.22 | Bibendus | the anubi thing |
| 20:49.23 | crazyfingers | maybe just put some seige tank explosions in front of it |
| 20:49.24 | Bibendus | cuz i didnt see it |
| 20:49.32 | Bibendus | in game |
| 20:49.38 | Bounty | yeah its a wow model |
| 20:49.42 | Bibendus | it seems different from the anquiraj |
| 20:49.44 | rrowland | lol, This french ad is stupid |
| 20:49.44 | Bibendus | model |
| 20:49.46 | rrowland | Doesn't even make sense |
| 20:50.05 | Bounty | the low rez fire is jsut for the first few seconds of the entrance |
| 20:50.13 | Bounty | everything else is high rez |
| 20:50.16 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:50.25 | Bibendus | bounty |
| 20:50.32 | Bibendus | do u know what's a good graphical effect? |
| 20:50.33 | Bibendus | xD |
| 20:50.40 | Bibendus | something that fits with the ambience |
| 20:50.50 | Bibendus | that low poly fire |
| 20:50.51 | Bounty | yeah i know |
| 20:50.53 | Bibendus | really sucks |
| 20:50.53 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:51.07 | Bounty | ok wel lthats only for like 2 seconds |
| 20:51.10 | Bounty | what about everything after that |
| 20:51.12 | Bibendus | still sucks |
| 20:51.15 | Bibendus | even for 0.1 seconds |
| 20:51.15 | Bibendus | :| |
| 20:51.30 | Bibendus | the fire is the more eye attracting thing |
| 20:51.34 | Bibendus | so you must fix it |
| 20:51.40 | sana | you could cut the length of that scene in half tbh |
| 20:51.41 | Bibendus | before i can judge the other things :| |
| 20:51.46 | Bibendus | why should he? |
| 20:51.52 | Bounty | you only see it once |
| 20:51.54 | Bounty | if u lose a fight |
| 20:51.56 | Bounty | u can just restart it |
| 20:52.05 | Bibendus | the length is ok |
| 20:52.14 | Bibendus | just fix the lolfire |
| 20:52.15 | Bibendus | xD |
| 20:52.16 | Bounty | only bosses get those entrances |
| 20:52.22 | Bounty | yeah but u just said everything else sucks |
| 20:52.28 | Bounty | what about when he powers up? |
| 20:52.30 | Bibendus | nope |
| 20:52.31 | Bibendus | i said |
| 20:52.33 | sana | ah wait |
| 20:52.37 | Bibendus | i can't judge the rest |
| 20:52.39 | Bibendus | if the fire sucks |
| 20:52.39 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:52.40 | sana | the first time i watched it didnt load the second half |
| 20:52.41 | sana | now it did |
| 20:52.46 | sana | yeah its actually pretty good |
| 20:53.00 | Bibendus | i didnt say it all sucks |
| 20:53.15 | Bounty | ok so its just the initial fire? |
| 20:53.26 | Bounty | the powerup and everything else is ok? |
| 20:53.38 | Bibendus | powerup? |
| 20:53.39 | Bibendus | :O |
| 20:53.43 | Bounty | watch the whole thing |
| 20:53.44 | Bibendus | u mean the other effect |
| 20:53.47 | Bibendus | that seems the blue fire? |
| 20:53.47 | Bounty | its only 13 seconds of ur life lol |
| 20:53.55 | Bibendus | it sucks as the blue fire |
| 20:53.59 | Bibendus | i tought it was the blue fire |
| 20:53.59 | Helral | meows |
| 20:54.01 | Bibendus | lol |
| 20:54.06 | Bibendus | hi kitty |
| 20:54.10 | Bibendus | rly bounty |
| 20:54.13 | Bibendus | change effects :\ |
| 20:54.23 | Bounty | which ones? |
| 20:54.31 | Bounty | i thought the powerup part blended perfectly.... |
| 20:54.32 | Bibendus | both |
| 20:54.35 | Bibendus | blue fire |
| 20:54.36 | Bibendus | and blue glow |
| 20:54.57 | sana | does the blue fire curtain appear from somewhere? some sort of prop |
| 20:55.07 | sana | the walls around it looked a bit bare |
| 20:55.12 | sana | but i assume you cant paint wall decals in sc2 |
| 20:55.20 | Bounty | its just a model |
| 20:55.24 | Bounty | i can change it |
| 20:55.39 | sana | maybe make it so theres a logical source for the fire |
| 20:55.48 | sana | for some additional visual bling |
| 20:55.57 | sana | break up the walls and stuff |
| 20:56.10 | Bounty | ok well what about the actual gameplay so far |
| 20:56.11 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p290L9NMTpQ |
| 20:56.35 | Bounty | ignore the fact we are all zeratuls, i only have that one class in atm and hes not even done |
| 20:56.39 | sana | i dont think i can comment on that |
| 20:56.51 | Bounty | y? |
| 20:56.56 | *** join/#sc2mapster cintiq_ (~cintiq@122-49-158-112.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 20:56.59 | sana | just.. try to somehow avoid that sort of overly sped up movement animation |
| 20:57.00 | sana | looks silly |
| 20:57.07 | sana | the effects are really nice |
| 20:57.14 | currydevil | the overlord ate my ship... |
| 20:57.26 | Bounty | yeah the runspeed is easy to fix |
| 20:57.28 | sana | i guess the crowd point counter is a placeholder |
| 20:57.53 | Bounty | yeah |
| 20:57.53 | Bounty | i want a bar at the top |
| 20:57.53 | Bounty | bc its a tug of war |
| 20:57.53 | Bounty | so |
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| 20:58.03 | sana | better keep all vitals in one spot :) |
| 20:58.15 | sana | e.g. at the bottom |
| 20:58.18 | sana | less shifting the eyes around |
| 20:58.23 | Bounty | true |
| 20:58.30 | Bounty | esp sicne there is no hp |
| 20:58.36 | Bounty | The Crowd is your HP lol |
| 20:58.44 | sana | i like all the abilities |
| 20:58.44 | Bibendus | guys |
| 20:58.49 | Bibendus | why don't u watch this fucking link |
| 20:58.50 | Bibendus | http://classic.battle.net/mod/ |
| 20:58.52 | Bibendus | i hate u all! |
| 20:59.00 | Bounty | Bib |
| 20:59.07 | Bounty | Give your expert advice on taht video :) |
| 20:59.12 | Bibendus | already did |
| 20:59.15 | Bibendus | change the 2 effects |
| 20:59.16 | Bounty | Does it Suck? Or Does it Suck hard |
| 20:59.20 | Bounty | no i posted a diff one |
| 20:59.22 | Bibendus | why should i repeat myself thousand of times? |
| 20:59.23 | Bibendus | oh |
| 20:59.34 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p290L9NMTpQ |
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| 21:00.51 | Bibendus | bland presentation this time |
| 21:00.52 | Bibendus | lolz |
| 21:00.55 | Bibendus | who are these gays? |
| 21:00.56 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:00.59 | Bibendus | from wow where? |
| 21:01.08 | Bounty | only bosses get epic entrances |
| 21:01.14 | Bounty | Etherals |
| 21:01.18 | Bibendus | do they get assfucked? |
| 21:01.21 | Bibendus | xD |
| 21:01.23 | Bounty | sigh |
| 21:01.24 | Bibendus | i hear strange sounds |
| 21:01.25 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:01.28 | Bibendus | OWW |
| 21:01.29 | Bibendus | OWWW |
| 21:01.30 | Bibendus | xD |
| 21:01.56 | Bibendus | the gravity spell is nice |
| 21:02.00 | Bibendus | and finally u made some dodgable things |
| 21:02.00 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:02.08 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:02.26 | Bounty | what about whirlwind? |
| 21:02.28 | Bounty | t1 and t2 |
| 21:02.44 | Bounty | im still working on that classes tier 3 |
| 21:02.54 | Bounty | tier 3 is supposed to be like insanely flashly moves |
| 21:03.00 | Bounty | so yeah, still thinking up ideas |
| 21:03.04 | Bibendus | oh |
| 21:03.05 | Bibendus | change walls |
| 21:03.08 | Bibendus | they suck :| |
| 21:03.14 | *** join/#sc2mapster ashamed (20616e3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.32.97.110.63) |
| 21:03.14 | Bounty | whats wrong with them? |
| 21:03.50 | Bounty | i thought the tone of the area fit your enemie well |
| 21:03.54 | sana | check the new folsom prison tosh map to see how blizz decorated that sort of wall |
| 21:03.57 | Bounty | since they are the home team |
| 21:03.59 | Bibendus | bad texture |
| 21:04.05 | Bibendus | u choosed the worst walls available |
| 21:04.06 | Bibendus | :| |
| 21:04.15 | Bibendus | rly |
| 21:04.26 | Bibendus | your extetic choices |
| 21:04.30 | Bibendus | are questionable |
| 21:04.31 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:04.49 | Bounty | what wall would be better? |
| 21:04.51 | Bibendus | in general :D |
| 21:04.53 | currydevil | your use of the word "watch" when you mean read is questionable =O |
| 21:04.53 | Bibendus | mmmm |
| 21:04.55 | Bibendus | maybe |
| 21:05.04 | currydevil | his walls look fine for an arena. |
| 21:05.06 | Bibendus | the wall with lazer on it |
| 21:05.09 | Helral | meows |
| 21:05.27 | currydevil | plus he's not using "walls" it's the terrain cliff face |
| 21:05.28 | Bounty | it has to be run down though |
| 21:05.37 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:05.52 | Bounty | this isnt supposed to be a newly built arena lol |
| 21:05.52 | Bibendus | they are |
| 21:05.54 | Bibendus | doodads wall |
| 21:06.03 | currydevil | lol no they aren't. |
| 21:06.06 | Bounty | they are cliffs |
| 21:06.09 | sana | nono thats cliffs |
| 21:06.10 | Bibendus | :O |
| 21:06.13 | currydevil | the wall behind the fire is the cliff |
| 21:06.22 | Bibendus | why the fuck |
| 21:06.24 | Bibendus | do i see |
| 21:06.30 | Bibendus | lines over walls |
| 21:06.31 | Bibendus | the |
| 21:06.32 | Bibendus | n |
| 21:06.36 | Bounty | barriers |
| 21:06.40 | currydevil | looks like a run down part of town type of walls eh? |
| 21:06.40 | Bibendus | not that |
| 21:06.44 | currydevil | it's the cliff. |
| 21:06.51 | Bibendus | bad shadows |
| 21:06.54 | Bibendus | and the textures of the cliff |
| 21:06.56 | Bibendus | are all the same |
| 21:06.57 | Bibendus | :| |
| 21:07.20 | Bibendus | use some cool doodads walls |
| 21:07.28 | Bounty | cool doodad walls? |
| 21:07.31 | Bounty | there are only like |
| 21:07.32 | Bounty | 3 |
| 21:07.33 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:07.37 | progammer | this one looks epic http://starfeeder.gameriot.com/blogs/The-Starfeed/StarCraft-II-Lego-creations |
| 21:07.37 | Bibendus | the walls |
| 21:07.45 | Bibendus | electrified walls |
| 21:07.47 | Bibendus | are nice for an arena |
| 21:07.58 | Bounty | the ones i used as barriers? |
| 21:08.12 | crazyfingers | boo, no dice recruiting the animation dude |
| 21:08.13 | sana | wow these are amazing |
| 21:08.27 | Bibendus | why textures on these walls |
| 21:08.27 | Bounty | Bib |
| 21:08.29 | Bibendus | are soo crappy???? |
| 21:08.33 | Bounty | What if i decorated the walls? |
| 21:08.35 | Bibendus | no bounty |
| 21:08.36 | Bounty | i could do that |
| 21:08.41 | Bibendus | the concrete wall with electricity |
| 21:08.42 | Bibendus | ion top |
| 21:08.51 | Bibendus | textures on it SUCKS |
| 21:08.54 | Bibendus | u can't do anything |
| 21:09.02 | sana | you can use those pipe doodads |
| 21:09.15 | sana | and ventilator duct things |
| 21:09.16 | Bounty | and make a cage? |
| 21:09.18 | sana | and alarm lights |
| 21:09.26 | Bibendus | why a caaaaaaaage |
| 21:09.27 | sana | to break up the bare walls |
| 21:09.36 | Bibendus | just use that walls |
| 21:09.39 | Bibendus | these |
| 21:10.00 | currydevil | who cares about the walls, you'll be looking at the flashy WW more often. |
| 21:10.15 | Bibendus | :| |
| 21:10.15 | Bounty | t2 WW is pretty |
| 21:10.16 | Bibendus | cmon |
| 21:10.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:10.17 | currydevil | that brings all the color to the map it needs |
| 21:10.18 | Bibendus | i m trying |
| 21:10.23 | Bibendus | to give some suggestions |
| 21:10.30 | currydevil | you got this nice dark arena, and BAM rainbow WW |
| 21:10.31 | Bibendus | i m good at terraining |
| 21:10.41 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:10.42 | Bounty | lol curry |
| 21:10.44 | Bibendus | he likes fancy things |
| 21:10.45 | currydevil | that doesn't mean simple is bad. |
| 21:11.01 | Bibendus | stop talking |
| 21:11.02 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:11.08 | currydevil | excuse me? no thanks. |
| 21:11.13 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:11.16 | Bounty | it just sucks |
| 21:11.18 | Bounty | now that he pointed it out |
| 21:11.19 | sana | its seriously not bad |
| 21:11.21 | Bounty | now i notice it to |
| 21:11.25 | Bounty | al lthe walls look the same |
| 21:11.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:11.30 | Bibendus | ye |
| 21:11.32 | Bibendus | its strange |
| 21:11.35 | currydevil | You start using the word "read" properly instead of saying "watch" when there are no videos in your links, and i might consider it. |
| 21:11.36 | Bibendus | usually cliff walls |
| 21:11.36 | sana | take my advice, open the Tosh prison sp map |
| 21:11.38 | Bibendus | are not that sucky |
| 21:11.44 | sana | it uses them all over the place |
| 21:11.46 | sana | but you NEVER notice it |
| 21:11.47 | Bounty | sana |
| 21:11.50 | Bounty | waht did they do? |
| 21:11.52 | Bounty | decals? |
| 21:11.57 | sana | pipes, wall doodads |
| 21:11.59 | Bibendus | ok |
| 21:11.59 | Bounty | i could decorate it wit hdecals and blood |
| 21:12.01 | sana | lots of stuff |
| 21:12.02 | Bounty | and pipes |
| 21:12.03 | Bibendus | READ this link plz http://classic.battle.net/mod/ |
| 21:12.03 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:12.04 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:12.16 | Bounty | u think it would look better ? |
| 21:12.17 | Bibendus | just change cliff |
| 21:12.19 | Bibendus | they seem bugged |
| 21:12.20 | Bibendus | :| |
| 21:12.26 | Bounty | yeah but what sana is suggesting |
| 21:12.30 | Bibendus | cliffs are not soo equal |
| 21:12.32 | Bounty | seems like a good idea |
| 21:12.34 | Bibendus | bounty |
| 21:12.36 | Bibendus | THEN you add doodads |
| 21:12.38 | Bibendus | too |
| 21:12.42 | Bibendus | i didnt say only to change walls |
| 21:12.44 | Bibendus | but u MUST change them |
| 21:12.48 | Bibendus | then you can add doodads |
| 21:12.56 | Bibendus | to improve the empty arena/walls |
| 21:13.08 | Bibendus | and make some low terrain height moving |
| 21:13.08 | sana | the walls fit the style |
| 21:13.11 | Bibendus | to make it less flat |
| 21:13.25 | Bounty | yeah thats why i picked them |
| 21:13.26 | currydevil | if he redoes the cliffs, he has to remake the whole map. |
| 21:13.31 | Bibendus | yea brick rined walls |
| 21:13.33 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:13.37 | Bibendus | with fancy energetic barrier on top |
| 21:13.37 | Bounty | that arena took awhile to make |
| 21:13.38 | Bibendus | -_-" |
| 21:13.41 | currydevil | the cliffs are stuck with the terrain set. |
| 21:13.44 | currydevil | sorry. |
| 21:13.48 | Bibendus | u can change |
| 21:13.50 | Bibendus | cliffs |
| 21:13.51 | Bibendus | noob :D |
| 21:13.58 | Bibendus | ahuahuah |
| 21:14.20 | Bounty | btw |
| 21:14.25 | Bounty | 1200 fans in the crowd |
| 21:14.26 | currydevil | so go change them for him instead of whining about the cliffs blizz made ;) they look fine for his map, some doodad use would be good though |
| 21:14.28 | Bounty | lololol |
| 21:14.37 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:14.40 | Bibendus | did u see crush company? |
| 21:14.43 | Bounty | i should def put some blood somewhere |
| 21:14.45 | Bibendus | how it's well terrained? |
| 21:14.57 | Bounty | i quit within 2 minute sof crush company bc ofthe lag |
| 21:14.58 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:15.10 | Jum-Jum | bc2 is fun |
| 21:15.12 | Bibendus | play it in single |
| 21:15.18 | Jum-Jum | i found the expansion for 99kr which is like... 10euros |
| 21:15.18 | Bibendus | however open the map with the editor |
| 21:15.21 | Bibendus | to see the terrain |
| 21:15.30 | Bibendus | just believe me |
| 21:15.33 | Bibendus | 1=> change wall |
| 21:15.43 | Bibendus | change cliff set or just use doodad walls |
| 21:15.50 | Bibendus | 2 => add some doodads on these walls or near them |
| 21:15.55 | currydevil | No one is arguing about bad terraining. atm it's just your opinion of the look of the cliffs. |
| 21:15.57 | Bibendus | 3 => add some terrain height change |
| 21:16.09 | Bibendus | 4=> add some bones, blood, cracks doodads in the arena |
| 21:16.12 | currydevil | some ppl like them, apparently you don't. |
| 21:16.14 | Bibendus | devil |
| 21:16.14 | Bounty | the only doodad wall that would make sense |
| 21:16.17 | Bibendus | equal textures = bad |
| 21:16.18 | Bounty | is Rubble Wall |
| 21:16.21 | Bibendus | not my opinion |
| 21:16.25 | currydevil | that's your opinion. |
| 21:16.27 | Bounty | unless u can find another one? |
| 21:16.28 | currydevil | not law. |
| 21:16.29 | Bibendus | it's an extecic rule |
| 21:16.35 | Bibendus | ask anywhere |
| 21:16.37 | Bibendus | -_- |
| 21:16.39 | Bounty | bc i really dont see much variety in the doodad walls |
| 21:16.46 | Bounty | unless u can tell me the name of the one u speak of? |
| 21:16.54 | Bibendus | repetitive texture = less natural |
| 21:17.09 | Bibendus | only artificial textures can be repetitive |
| 21:17.13 | currydevil | the arena isn't "natural" >.> |
| 21:17.17 | Bibendus | like concrete unruined walls |
| 21:17.21 | Bibendus | for natural i mean |
| 21:17.24 | Bibendus | more like reality |
| 21:17.32 | Bibendus | did u ever see a wall |
| 21:17.36 | Bibendus | ruined in the same way |
| 21:17.40 | Bibendus | every 2 meters? |
| 21:17.52 | Bibendus | that's not real like |
| 21:17.58 | currydevil | not yet but i can go ruin one like that and say yes. |
| 21:18.08 | Bounty | Bib |
| 21:18.13 | Bounty | What walls do you think would look better |
| 21:18.18 | Bibendus | they are identical |
| 21:18.19 | Bounty | So i can atleast see them |
| 21:18.23 | Bibendus | i think any wall |
| 21:18.24 | ashamed | are we talking about your map bounty? |
| 21:18.25 | Bibendus | :| |
| 21:18.28 | Bounty | Because once again for the 5th time |
| 21:18.35 | Bounty | There are only like 5 types of doodad walls |
| 21:18.38 | Bibendus | that's not texture bugged |
| 21:18.39 | Bounty | Yes ash |
| 21:18.45 | Bibendus | the concrete wall |
| 21:18.51 | Bibendus | electrified wall |
| 21:18.52 | Bibendus | i said u |
| 21:18.52 | Bounty | Rubble Wall? |
| 21:18.54 | ashamed | yeah i mean they don't look bad |
| 21:19.00 | ashamed | but a more modern look might be better |
| 21:19.04 | Bibendus | i don't remember the correct name |
| 21:19.13 | Bibendus | ashamed the problem |
| 21:19.17 | Bibendus | is the repetitive texture |
| 21:19.22 | Bibendus | not the style |
| 21:19.23 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:19.26 | Bounty | and i agree on that |
| 21:19.31 | ashamed | and teh style! |
| 21:19.38 | Bounty | whats wrong wit hthe style |
| 21:19.43 | ashamed | if you can use a wall that doesn't have muitiple textures? |
| 21:19.47 | Bibendus | and there is something crappy |
| 21:19.49 | Bounty | if it wasnt repetitive textures |
| 21:19.50 | Bibendus | with the shadows on the wall |
| 21:19.53 | Bibendus | dunno what |
| 21:19.54 | Bounty | what would be wrong with it |
| 21:19.59 | Bibendus | nothing bounty |
| 21:20.03 | ashamed | i dunno battle arenas seem either futuristic.. or very old |
| 21:20.07 | Bibendus | just the repetitive |
| 21:20.08 | ashamed | and you have a lil bit of both in there |
| 21:20.10 | Bibendus | and the shadow that makes u see |
| 21:20.19 | Bibendus | where the wall texture is cut |
| 21:20.19 | Bounty | u can be futuristic and old |
| 21:20.20 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:20.33 | Bounty | i dont see what u mean Bib |
| 21:20.36 | Bounty | im watching the vid now |
| 21:20.37 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:20.42 | currydevil | alright, i suppose i can concede the point the walls look a little... off. But still, you're missing the pretty rainbows... |
| 21:20.54 | Bibendus | u can see |
| 21:20.54 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:20.56 | Bibendus | where the texture is cut |
| 21:20.58 | Bibendus | on the walls |
| 21:21.04 | currydevil | playing that, you're not going to be paying attention to the walls. |
| 21:21.05 | Bounty | Oooh |
| 21:21.07 | Bounty | Vertically? |
| 21:21.08 | Bounty | righT? |
| 21:21.09 | Bibendus | yep |
| 21:21.10 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:21.11 | Bounty | i see it |
| 21:21.12 | Bounty | gotcha |
| 21:21.14 | Bibendus | the wall just suck |
| 21:21.15 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:21.16 | Bibendus | change it |
| 21:21.18 | ashamed | i think either you should make them look very old like roman times.. or very futuristic.. i dunno why they have this huge metal door but shitty ass walls |
| 21:21.21 | Bibendus | and see if something is fixed |
| 21:21.40 | ashamed | but i dont think it matters |
| 21:21.49 | ashamed | thats not what the people are going to care about either way |
| 21:21.49 | Bounty | i think i could just doodad the walls up |
| 21:21.50 | Bibendus | did you READ my link devil? |
| 21:21.51 | Bibendus | xD |
| 21:21.57 | Bounty | right bib? |
| 21:22.05 | Bounty | if i could get rid of those 2 factors |
| 21:22.07 | currydevil | No, because .. I didn't want to. |
| 21:22.11 | Bibendus | :( |
| 21:22.17 | Bounty | the question is |
| 21:22.18 | Bibendus | try |
| 21:22.20 | Bounty | what doodads besides blood |
| 21:22.21 | Bibendus | with doodads wall |
| 21:22.24 | Bounty | would look good on the wall |
| 21:22.24 | Bibendus | and see if it's ok |
| 21:22.29 | Bounty | i just looked at the walls |
| 21:22.31 | Bibendus | small bones |
| 21:22.33 | Bibendus | small rocks |
| 21:22.35 | Bounty | the only concrete walls |
| 21:22.39 | Bibendus | work on texture meshes too |
| 21:22.40 | Bounty | look the same lol |
| 21:22.43 | Bibendus | ye |
| 21:22.45 | Bibendus | but it's artificial |
| 21:22.53 | Bibendus | the problem is the ruined wall |
| 21:22.56 | Bibendus | always in the same way |
| 21:23.01 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:23.02 | Bibendus | with regular distances |
| 21:23.03 | Bounty | i told u |
| 21:23.06 | Bibendus | if the wall is not ruined |
| 21:23.09 | Bounty | ur absolutely right about ur 2 points lol |
| 21:23.11 | Bibendus | it can be ripetitive |
| 21:23.20 | Bounty | oo |
| 21:23.22 | Bounty | bones eh? |
| 21:23.24 | Bounty | that would look cool |
| 21:23.24 | Bibendus | yep |
| 21:23.26 | Bibendus | not 2 big |
| 21:23.28 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:23.29 | Bibendus | because they are animal bones |
| 21:23.29 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:23.30 | Bounty | little ones |
| 21:23.34 | Bibendus | and small rocks |
| 21:23.37 | Bibendus | but |
| 21:23.41 | Bibendus | before starting with doodads |
| 21:23.43 | Bibendus | you must |
| 21:23.47 | Bibendus | 1) add some texture meshes |
| 21:23.55 | Bounty | whats that? lol |
| 21:23.57 | Bibendus | 2) add some terrain random height |
| 21:24.00 | Bibendus | u take |
| 21:24.12 | Bibendus | a medium round paint brush |
| 21:24.32 | Bibendus | choose a low density painting |
| 21:24.41 | Bibendus | and try to brush somewhere on your ground |
| 21:24.51 | Bounty | i did that |
| 21:25.03 | Bibendus | try to make irregular round circles |
| 21:25.03 | Bounty | the ground is actually a combo of like 4 textures lol |
| 21:25.03 | Bibendus | with different textures |
| 21:25.38 | Bibendus | too fancy |
| 21:25.41 | Bibendus | ops |
| 21:25.45 | Bibendus | reading old message :D |
| 21:26.18 | Bounty | now with doodads |
| 21:26.20 | Bounty | like the bones |
| 21:26.23 | Bibendus | k the arena ground seems decent |
| 21:26.27 | Bibendus | the textures on the entrance |
| 21:26.27 | Bounty | they are horizonal... |
| 21:26.28 | Bibendus | suck |
| 21:26.34 | Bounty | yeah im not done that yet lol |
| 21:26.36 | Bounty | i just through that down |
| 21:26.37 | Bibendus | k |
| 21:26.40 | Bibendus | maybe add |
| 21:26.41 | Bounty | threw* |
| 21:26.45 | Bibendus | more texture changes |
| 21:26.47 | Bibendus | in the arena |
| 21:26.52 | Bounty | doodads to? |
| 21:26.52 | Bibendus | before adding |
| 21:26.54 | Bibendus | doodads |
| 21:26.56 | Bounty | ok |
| 21:26.58 | Bibendus | make random height |
| 21:27.02 | Bounty | but what about the bones on the wall |
| 21:27.06 | Bibendus | dunno |
| 21:27.08 | Bounty | how can i get them to be horizontal |
| 21:27.13 | Bibendus | u cant |
| 21:27.16 | Bibendus | u must work o ndata editing |
| 21:27.17 | Bibendus | xD |
| 21:27.22 | Bibendus | using site operations |
| 21:27.27 | Bounty | ugh |
| 21:27.29 | Bounty | but |
| 21:27.32 | Bounty | :( |
| 21:27.34 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:27.39 | Bibendus | concrete walls |
| 21:27.45 | Bibendus | don't need strange decorations |
| 21:27.48 | Bibendus | just alarm lights |
| 21:27.52 | Bibendus | should be enough |
| 21:27.58 | Bibendus | maybe only at entrance |
| 21:28.01 | Bounty | the spiral ones? |
| 21:28.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demo (ae143024@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.20.48.36) |
| 21:28.01 | Bibendus | near the door |
| 21:28.06 | Bibendus | the rotating one |
| 21:28.16 | Demo | Is there any way to take the spinning models from the help menu, and add them to a dialog? |
| 21:29.12 | Bibendus | did u really need all these colors |
| 21:29.16 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.20 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:29.23 | Bibendus | k then |
| 21:29.24 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:29.27 | Bounty | flashy moves |
| 21:29.30 | Bounty | to win the crowd :) |
| 21:29.42 | Bibendus | .. |
| 21:29.44 | Bibendus | .if u say so |
| 21:29.48 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:30.18 | Bounty | whats wrong with it lol |
| 21:30.35 | Bibendus | 2 fancy |
| 21:30.57 | Bibendus | did u see my lurker boss fight |
| 21:30.58 | Bibendus | yes u did |
| 21:31.00 | Bounty | but thats the point of the premise of the game lol |
| 21:31.06 | Bounty | is to be fancy |
| 21:31.12 | Bibendus | did u see |
| 21:31.13 | Bounty | to win the crowds favor |
| 21:31.14 | Bibendus | the abilities? |
| 21:31.22 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:31.23 | Bounty | he did |
| 21:31.26 | Bounty | spine crawler moves |
| 21:31.28 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:31.31 | Bibendus | no |
| 21:31.33 | Bibendus | lurker moves |
| 21:31.33 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:31.36 | Bounty | err |
| 21:31.37 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:31.38 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:31.38 | Bounty | thats what i meant |
| 21:31.42 | Bounty | why the fuck did i say spine crawler |
| 21:31.43 | Bibendus | nothing special |
| 21:31.44 | Bounty | lololol |
| 21:31.44 | Bibendus | simple |
| 21:31.47 | Bibendus | but not fancy |
| 21:31.49 | Bibendus | just neat |
| 21:32.04 | Bibendus | people liked it even if it was simple |
| 21:32.24 | Bibendus | i didnt understand your spell was a whirlwind |
| 21:32.30 | Bibendus | until u said it to me |
| 21:32.30 | Bibendus | :| |
| 21:32.32 | kaseano | any1 really good w the data editor |
| 21:32.35 | Bounty | how? |
| 21:32.37 | Bibendus | i tought it was some fancy fast teleport |
| 21:32.40 | Demo | Is there any way to take the spinning models from the help menu, and add them to a dialog? |
| 21:32.41 | Bibendus | blinks |
| 21:32.43 | Bibendus | whatever |
| 21:32.51 | Bounty | your spinning your in a circle with your arm extended |
| 21:32.54 | Bibendus | i think that a simple spinning |
| 21:32.56 | Bounty | how did u think that was a teleport? |
| 21:32.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:33.02 | Bibendus | with the blade that leaves his tray |
| 21:33.03 | Bibendus | is enough |
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| 21:33.10 | Bibendus | and enough cool |
| 21:33.16 | Bibendus | if u add too many effects |
| 21:33.23 | Bibendus | people won't understand what's happening |
| 21:33.53 | Bounty | this isnt for the average bnet player |
| 21:34.00 | Bibendus | stop defending it |
| 21:34.02 | Bibendus | and listen to me :| |
| 21:34.05 | Bibendus | if you want suggestions |
| 21:34.06 | Bounty | i am listening to u |
| 21:34.14 | Bibendus | else i will go playing left 4 dead :| |
| 21:34.19 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:34.22 | Bibendus | rly |
| 21:34.22 | Bounty | the problem is |
| 21:34.28 | Bounty | u want me to agree with all ur suggestions |
| 21:34.30 | Bibendus | i don't like your fancy things u are making on your maps |
| 21:34.32 | Bounty | i sat here and told u |
| 21:34.33 | Bibendus | they are really |
| 21:34.34 | Bibendus | kiddish |
| 21:34.40 | Bounty | i agree 100% with ur 2 points about the walls |
| 21:34.48 | Bibendus | believe me |
| 21:34.51 | Bibendus | i have quite a good experience |
| 21:34.54 | Bibendus | on game dev |
| 21:35.11 | Bibendus | people first must understand the game |
| 21:35.13 | Bibendus | what's happening |
| 21:35.30 | Bibendus | why blizzard didn't make rainbow archons in normal melee game? |
| 21:35.37 | Bibendus | cuz they are crap |
| 21:35.42 | Bibendus | confusionary |
| 21:35.50 | Bibendus | blizzard spells/attacks are simple but cool |
| 21:36.10 | Bibendus | if u use too many fancy lights |
| 21:36.14 | Bibendus | people will look at them |
| 21:36.17 | Bibendus | ignoring whats happening |
| 21:36.23 | Bounty | Yeah but my point is the game was based on the premise of flashy moves to win over the crowd |
| 21:36.27 | Bibendus | it's not my opinion |
| 21:36.28 | Bounty | i understand what ur saying though |
| 21:36.28 | Bibendus | it's a fact |
| 21:36.32 | Bibendus | then you can say |
| 21:36.38 | Bibendus | i prefer people to look my fancy spells ignoring the gameplay |
| 21:36.43 | Bibendus | than that's an opinion |
| 21:36.57 | Bibendus | the gravity spell |
| 21:36.58 | Bibendus | is simple |
| 21:36.59 | Bibendus | and nice |
| 21:37.07 | Bibendus | the fireball thing is good |
| 21:37.15 | Bibendus | the whirlwind doesnt fit with the other abilities |
| 21:37.17 | Bibendus | and is too fancy |
| 21:37.20 | Bibendus | believe me |
| 21:37.26 | Bibendus | remove the random coloring |
| 21:37.31 | Bibendus | make the model spin |
| 21:37.37 | Bibendus | and the blade already should leave his trail |
| 21:37.40 | Bounty | what about the first tier whirlwind? |
| 21:37.42 | Bibendus | of the blade color |
| 21:37.48 | Bibendus | didnt see it :| |
| 21:37.54 | Bounty | its the normal one with just you |
| 21:38.01 | Bounty | ur blade leaves a green trail |
| 21:38.09 | Bounty | its in like the first few seconds of the vid |
| 21:38.10 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p290L9NMTpQ |
| 21:38.44 | Bibendus | i see |
| 21:38.47 | Bibendus | green flames on the ground |
| 21:38.51 | Bibendus | is that the t1 spell? |
| 21:38.57 | Bounty | u also see him spinning |
| 21:39.02 | Bounty | yes it is |
| 21:39.06 | Bibendus | oh first |
| 21:39.09 | Bibendus | slow a bit the spin |
| 21:39.10 | Bibendus | it's too fast |
| 21:39.12 | Bibendus | and i didnt notice it |
| 21:39.23 | Bibendus | and remove the flames on the ground |
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| 21:39.38 | Bibendus | and flames are covering |
| 21:39.42 | Bibendus | the blade trail |
| 21:39.44 | Bibendus | so i can't see it :| |
| 21:39.52 | Bounty | there is no blade trail |
| 21:39.59 | Bounty | unless u make one lol |
| 21:41.16 | Bibendus | it has |
| 21:41.19 | Bibendus | whle moving |
| 21:41.21 | Bibendus | maybe u added it |
| 21:41.33 | Bibendus | and that's enough |
| 21:41.34 | Bounty | i added the green energy trial |
| 21:41.36 | Bounty | trail* |
| 21:41.38 | Helral | meows |
| 21:41.45 | Bibendus | how did u do that however :D |
| 21:41.48 | Bibendus | is that an effect? |
| 21:41.53 | Bounty | yep |
| 21:42.05 | Bounty | it usually spirals up |
| 21:42.08 | Bounty | but i flattened it |
| 21:42.32 | Bibendus | spirals? |
| 21:42.33 | Bibendus | :| |
| 21:42.49 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:42.51 | Bounty | the effect |
| 21:42.55 | Bounty | doesnt usually look klike that |
| 21:43.01 | Bounty | its spirals up |
| 21:43.04 | Bibendus | what ingame ability is it |
| 21:43.13 | Bounty | its one of the unused effects |
| 21:43.18 | Bibendus | oh k :D |
| 21:43.23 | Bibendus | for the difference |
| 21:43.26 | Bounty | u can find it using the model viewer browser |
| 21:43.28 | Bibendus | between tier 1 and 2 |
| 21:43.31 | Bibendus | maybe add |
| 21:43.37 | Bibendus | some cool effect on the body |
| 21:43.39 | Bibendus | some aura |
| 21:43.56 | Bibendus | and maybe make the trail bigger |
| 21:44.15 | Bibendus | but no rainbow archon thing |
| 21:44.16 | Bibendus | plz |
| 21:44.16 | Bibendus | xD |
| 21:44.20 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:44.25 | Bounty | maybe just make them all green? |
| 21:44.32 | Bounty | bc its 4 shadow zeratuls around u |
| 21:44.37 | Bounty | so ur actually doing |
| 21:44.40 | Bounty | 5 whirlwinds at once |
| 21:44.43 | Bounty | lots of points :) |
| 21:46.00 | Bibendus | 4 zeratul around? |
| 21:46.05 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:46.05 | Bibendus | so that's the reason |
| 21:46.07 | Bibendus | i understand a shit |
| 21:46.08 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:46.15 | Bibendus | maybe |
| 21:46.19 | Bounty | each zeratul is the color of his whirlwind |
| 21:46.20 | Bibendus | just add the shadow zeratuls |
| 21:46.24 | Bibendus | with big transparency |
| 21:46.35 | Bibendus | dunno |
| 21:46.41 | Bibendus | just not too fancy |
| 21:46.52 | Bibendus | people must understand what's a whirlwind |
| 21:47.03 | Bibendus | not a fireworks party :| |
| 21:47.03 | Bounty | btw |
| 21:47.09 | Bounty | how the fuck do u put shit on the cliff |
| 21:47.12 | Bounty | its not letting me lol |
| 21:47.19 | Bounty | put blood on the cliffs or nething |
| 21:47.23 | Jum-Jum | shift |
| 21:47.28 | Bounty | i did that |
| 21:47.41 | Bibendus | shift |
| 21:47.42 | Bibendus | click |
| 21:47.46 | Bibendus | u can :D |
| 21:47.53 | Bounty | on the walls |
| 21:47.56 | Bounty | it only goes up to the top |
| 21:47.57 | Bounty | or the bottom |
| 21:48.00 | Bibendus | page down |
| 21:48.01 | Bounty | i cant get in the center |
| 21:48.05 | Bibendus | page up |
| 21:48.06 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:48.52 | Bounty | why the FUCK do they make this shit so hard to select |
| 21:48.56 | Bounty | i cant even click on the blood splats |
| 21:49.01 | Bounty | u gotta draw a box around them |
| 21:49.11 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:49.21 | Jum-Jum | of all the things in the editor |
| 21:49.24 | Jum-Jum | you complain on THAT |
| 21:49.25 | Jum-Jum | :| |
| 21:49.26 | Bibendus | doodads placement |
| 21:49.27 | Bibendus | must not be |
| 21:49.29 | Bibendus | too regular |
| 21:49.33 | Bounty | fuck it |
| 21:49.33 | Bibendus | remember that |
| 21:49.34 | Bounty | i got it to work |
| 21:49.37 | Bounty | and it looks retarded |
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| 21:49.40 | Bibendus | and don't put thousand of blood splats |
| 21:49.41 | Bibendus | i know u |
| 21:49.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:49.41 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:49.47 | Bounty | :) |
| 21:49.52 | Bounty | hey man |
| 21:49.56 | Bounty | Haunted Temple got me addicted to that shit |
| 21:49.59 | Bounty | lolol |
| 21:51.32 | Bounty | Bib |
| 21:51.39 | Bounty | do u think a pipe cage would look cool? lol |
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| 21:53.23 | Bibendus | why a pipe cage? :O |
| 21:53.29 | Bibendus | why |
| 21:53.33 | Bounty | like a steel cage |
| 21:53.37 | Bounty | but made of pipes |
| 21:53.37 | Bibendus | should it be inside the arena? |
| 21:53.38 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:53.41 | Bounty | iunno |
| 21:53.43 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:53.44 | Bounty | just throwing shit out there |
| 21:53.46 | Bibendus | coerence |
| 21:53.46 | Bibendus | plz |
| 21:54.04 | Bibendus | why don't u place a tree in the middle of the arena? |
| 21:54.09 | Bibendus | because it doesnt fit |
| 21:54.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:54.16 | Bibendus | just think to that |
| 21:54.19 | Bibendus | everytime u add something |
| 21:57.13 | Bounty | fuck man |
| 21:57.17 | Bounty | Terrainers Block |
| 21:57.22 | Bounty | Nothing appeals to me |
| 21:58.44 | Bounty | Hey Bib |
| 21:58.45 | Bounty | what about |
| 21:58.53 | Bounty | Valhalla walls with the windows |
| 22:06.51 | Bounty | oo |
| 22:06.54 | Bounty | bib i got something for u to see |
| 22:08.52 | Mephs | this is why i hate triggers |
| 22:08.54 | Bounty | http://tinypic.com/r/2jcalj5/7 |
| 22:08.58 | Mephs | look at how slow that shit moves |
| 22:09.17 | Bounty | does that look right? |
| 22:09.30 | Bounty | like i know it doesnt look right as it is but do u think that could work? |
| 22:09.32 | Bounty | if u mess with it |
| 22:24.19 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 22:32.36 | Demonette | Nighty Night to you all damnated ones!!! |
| 22:32.55 | Demonette | Sleep well and good luck with your doingses |
| 22:33.11 | crazyfingers | hehe, night! |
| 22:34.01 | Bibendus|AFK | rodrigo |
| 22:34.02 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 39 minutes 42 seconds |
| 22:34.04 | Bibendus | where the fuck your post go |
| 22:34.05 | Bibendus | lol |
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| 22:34.14 | Bounty | http://tinypic.com/r/2jcalj5/7 |
| 22:34.18 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:34.31 | Bibendus | whats that? |
| 22:34.32 | Bounty | something along those lines? |
| 22:34.34 | Bounty | the wall |
| 22:34.41 | Bounty | but u can kinda blend it in |
| 22:36.03 | Bibendus | just dunno |
| 22:36.08 | Bibendus | i dont like the wall+lava combo |
| 22:36.14 | Bibendus | goin to play l4d |
| 22:36.14 | Bibendus | bye :D |
| 22:36.24 | Bounty | cya lol |
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| 22:54.00 | Sixen | lol..... did blizzard do what I htink they did |
| 22:54.17 | Sixen | ah, nevermind |
| 22:55.36 | Bounty | ? |
| 22:55.39 | Bounty | do what? lol |
| 22:56.15 | Sixen | Nothing, nothing at al :P |
| 22:56.33 | Bounty | :) |
| 22:57.11 | Bounty | Feel like giving some feedback Sixen? |
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| 23:04.33 | Sixen | in a little bit, :) |
| 23:06.15 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 23:42.09 | Mephs | 1800 pts huzzah |
| 23:42.17 | Mephs | r2 |
| 23:57.43 | Bounty | http://tinypic.com/r/23vmi4x/7 |
| 23:57.47 | Bounty | Does that look right guys? |
