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| 00:12.47 | Saeris | irc is pretty dead today it seems |
| 00:12.57 | Mephs | ym is pretty dead today it seems |
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| 00:43.31 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.35 | Mephs | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.37 | onetwo | updated trailer coming in couple mins |
| 00:43.40 | Mephs | werd |
| 00:43.44 | onetwo | i left both up |
| 00:43.45 | onetwo | you can choose |
| 00:43.46 | Mephs | gah i just missed TKC i wanted to show him it |
| 00:43.48 | onetwo | which one you prefer |
| 00:43.56 | Mephs | you should see the terrain he's making |
| 00:43.58 | Mephs | its fuckin sweet |
| 00:44.01 | onetwo | personally i prefer the first one from yesterday |
| 00:44.02 | onetwo | cool |
| 00:44.04 | Mephs | aite |
| 00:44.09 | Mephs | post when you're ready :)) |
| 00:44.17 | onetwo | man im watching US tv |
| 00:44.22 | onetwo | hilarious how they keep framing obama |
| 00:44.31 | onetwo | when infact democrats arent doing that bad in race or w/e |
| 00:44.35 | onetwo | i have no idea how it works |
| 00:44.40 | Mephs | all i can say is, i'd hate to be the president |
| 00:44.49 | Mephs | the way he describes the house its no wonder things never get done |
| 00:44.50 | onetwo | but 2 years ago it was all about democratic empowerment |
| 00:44.52 | onetwo | and undermining bush |
| 00:44.56 | onetwo | now its all about undermining obama |
| 00:45.02 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:45.16 | onetwo | canadian politics is so boring |
| 00:45.19 | onetwo | we get stuff done |
| 00:45.19 | onetwo | we argue |
| 00:45.22 | Mephs | lol |
| 00:45.24 | onetwo | but its never ridiculous |
| 00:45.27 | onetwo | like tea party crap |
| 00:45.28 | onetwo | or w/e that is |
| 00:45.38 | Mephs | what political issues do you ahve to bother with anyway |
| 00:45.45 | Mephs | besides whether milk should be shipped in bags or cartons |
| 00:45.45 | onetwo | ill PM you when its up |
| 00:45.47 | onetwo | uh i dont know |
| 00:45.54 | onetwo | our billions of resources in inuit land? |
| 00:45.56 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:46.07 | Mephs | =d |
| 00:46.11 | Mephs | lol |
| 00:46.27 | onetwo | but yeah in BC our premiere for our province made an odd decision |
| 00:46.33 | onetwo | we used to haev our own tax and then country tax |
| 00:46.51 | onetwo | but he agreed to switch to one tax and then the country gives us our share back |
| 00:47.08 | onetwo | and we got something like 600,000 signatures opposing it |
| 00:47.09 | Mephs | huh |
| 00:47.11 | Mephs | no |
| 00:47.12 | Mephs | no |
| 00:47.13 | Mephs | you're right |
| 00:47.13 | onetwo | some insane amount |
| 00:47.17 | Mephs | canadian politics are boring |
| 00:47.23 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:47.26 | Mephs | ._o |
| 00:47.33 | onetwo | basically we used to pay 5% on food or w/e |
| 00:47.35 | onetwo | and now we pay 12% |
| 00:47.38 | onetwo | tax |
| 00:47.42 | Mephs | shat |
| 00:47.44 | Mephs | that sucks |
| 00:47.54 | onetwo | yeah but it 'helps film industry' |
| 00:47.55 | onetwo | haha |
| 00:48.04 | Mephs | i think the only thing ppl really care about is whether weed will be legal or not |
| 00:48.07 | onetwo | somehow |
| 00:48.09 | Mephs | here |
| 00:48.10 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:48.13 | onetwo | in BC |
| 00:48.13 | onetwo | LOL |
| 00:48.22 | RodOfNOD | by people u mean kids :P |
| 00:48.22 | Mephs | well thats just in cali anyway |
| 00:48.40 | Mephs | kids of all ages man |
| 00:48.40 | progammer | who wants a new name ? http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1050211#blog |
| 00:48.51 | Mephs | but if it passes in cali |
| 00:48.56 | Mephs | i hope something passes in CO soon |
| 00:49.44 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:49.57 | Mephs | its already "mostly" legal here tho so i'm not complaining |
| 00:50.05 | Mephs | got ppl |
| 00:50.11 | Mephs | out on the sidewalks advertising for dispensaries and shit |
| 00:50.15 | Mephs | its awesome |
| 00:50.27 | onetwo | yeah BC is similar to that |
| 00:50.34 | onetwo | since were like the king of marijuana from what i hear |
| 00:50.40 | Mephs | naw |
| 00:50.43 | Mephs | thats amsterdam |
| 00:50.48 | onetwo | oh true |
| 00:50.59 | onetwo | hmm if it worked there... |
| 00:51.03 | Mephs | i've never heard anyone say "man canada weed is the best" either. soooooooooooo :p |
| 00:51.11 | onetwo | really? |
| 00:51.14 | onetwo | thats all ive heard people say |
| 00:51.18 | Mephs | XD idk |
| 00:51.18 | onetwo | in west coast |
| 00:51.28 | Mephs | its all about cali or colo |
| 00:51.30 | Mephs | around here |
| 00:51.37 | onetwo | ah |
| 00:51.55 | onetwo | i dont really understand how it works; you see people getting 'busted' for weed |
| 00:52.04 | onetwo | but downtown theres lots of weed stores that sell devices |
| 00:52.05 | onetwo | for weed |
| 00:52.07 | onetwo | that operate |
| 00:52.13 | onetwo | who shops there... |
| 00:52.13 | Mephs | well you apply for a registry card |
| 00:52.16 | onetwo | obviously |
| 00:52.22 | Mephs | and if you get accepted, |
| 00:52.27 | onetwo | LOL but they do not look like medical places |
| 00:52.28 | Mephs | you're legal to possess like up to 1 oz at a time |
| 00:52.32 | Mephs | oh yeah they're not. |
| 00:52.38 | Mephs | its a lot of crock shit |
| 00:52.43 | onetwo | LOL |
| 00:53.00 | Mephs | they even talk about it freely on the radio |
| 00:53.05 | Mephs | cuz like 90% of CO has a red card, pretty much |
| 00:53.16 | onetwo | HAH |
| 00:53.27 | Mephs | hey its not a bad thing |
| 00:53.28 | Mephs | where i live |
| 00:53.35 | Mephs | the crime rate is one of the lowest nationwide |
| 00:53.46 | RodOfNOD | 90%? |
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| 00:53.59 | Mephs | maybe not 90%. but a lot of ppl have a card here |
| 00:54.01 | RodOfNOD | u must be joking at 90% |
| 00:54.03 | RodOfNOD | like 5% |
| 00:54.07 | Mephs | there's a dispensary every other block |
| 00:54.11 | Mephs | you crazy if you think its that low |
| 00:54.33 | RodOfNOD | well i dont live there but ther are people over 30 that wont use so |
| 00:54.40 | Mephs | lol |
| 00:54.40 | RodOfNOD | thats over 50% of thepoplulation |
| 00:54.50 | RodOfNOD | the problem is u overestimate the users |
| 00:54.58 | Mephs | problem is you underestimate who uses. |
| 00:54.58 | RodOfNOD | because u i assume are a user |
| 00:55.09 | Saeris | no one's mapping today, all out voting =P |
| 00:55.10 | RodOfNOD | no i know reality |
| 00:55.12 | onetwo | u i |
| 00:55.16 | Mephs | i'm 26, and well employed. |
| 00:55.21 | RodOfNOD | fact is if 90% used it would be on the ballot |
| 00:55.23 | Mephs | so if you're going to start talking stereotypes go for it |
| 00:55.31 | onetwo | meh Saeris, as a canadian who watches american tv, im so tired of these elections |
| 00:55.36 | onetwo | its always some race |
| 00:55.39 | onetwo | between idiots |
| 00:55.39 | RodOfNOD | yes but im 45 so ive lived abit more life and know what people do and dont do |
| 00:55.41 | onetwo | haha |
| 00:55.44 | Saeris | oh i know it onetwo |
| 00:55.50 | Saeris | i'm so sick of meg whitman's lies |
| 00:55.51 | RodOfNOD | when i was 25 i did it but now at 45 i dont |
| 00:55.56 | Mephs | cool, i know a lot of people you wouldn't expect to do it |
| 00:55.58 | Mephs | that do |
| 00:56.04 | Saeris | this shit in california has been driving me nuts |
| 00:56.07 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:56.12 | Saeris | i just wanna see the results |
| 00:56.16 | Mephs | i dont even really do it that often, its more just to take the edge off after work |
| 00:56.18 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:56.22 | RodOfNOD | yes but my point is if it was that high then it would be on the ballot and pass |
| 00:56.22 | onetwo | didnt you guys just have an election |
| 00:56.24 | onetwo | can you guys calm down |
| 00:56.25 | RodOfNOD | cali might not even pass |
| 00:56.25 | onetwo | haha |
| 00:56.28 | Mephs | oh yea i know |
| 00:56.30 | onetwo | america! |
| 00:56.31 | Mephs | dont forget rod |
| 00:56.33 | Saeris | lol |
| 00:56.35 | Mephs | a lot of dealers are voting against it |
| 00:56.38 | Mephs | cuzt hey think it will kill their business |
| 00:56.44 | RodOfNOD | and it will |
| 00:56.46 | Saeris | election is going on today >.< results won't be in until later tonight |
| 00:56.47 | Mephs | so not everyone who uses it is for passing it either |
| 00:56.58 | Mephs | and likewise |
| 00:57.02 | Mephs | not everyone who doesn't use it is against it |
| 00:57.02 | RodOfNOD | true but thatpercentage is SOlow its not even funny |
| 00:57.07 | RodOfNOD | of course |
| 00:57.09 | onetwo | LOL so then the government has to get the 'dealer' vote |
| 00:57.10 | RodOfNOD | but u said 90% |
| 00:57.11 | Mephs | its not as low as you think. |
| 00:57.16 | Mephs | definitely not 5% in colorado |
| 00:57.16 | onetwo | its now a category |
| 00:57.22 | Mephs | (its not 90% either i'm just exaggerating :P) |
| 00:57.25 | RodOfNOD | which is like saying all women are lesbians.... oh wait..... hehe |
| 00:57.27 | onetwo | latino, black, religious, and dealer vote |
| 00:57.29 | onetwo | LOL |
| 00:57.38 | Saeris | tbh i |
| 00:57.47 | Saeris | really want prop 19 to pass in california |
| 00:57.58 | Saeris | state needs more revenue sources and less expenditures |
| 00:58.00 | RodOfNOD | is that the piot one? |
| 00:58.04 | RodOfNOD | pot |
| 00:58.05 | Saeris | yes |
| 00:58.13 | RodOfNOD | ya i want to see it legal |
| 00:58.35 | Saeris | overall though, i just want the fucking school system here to get back on track |
| 00:58.35 | onetwo | yeah so many of your movie productions are shot in my city now |
| 00:58.35 | onetwo | every day driving |
| 00:58.38 | RodOfNOD | of course im for full on all drugs legalized and then take the enforcment money and educate people |
| 00:58.39 | onetwo | i go by several film crews |
| 00:58.43 | Saeris | i'm already 5 years in to community college |
| 00:58.49 | Saeris | i wanna get done and start working |
| 00:59.28 | onetwo | true |
| 00:59.36 | Saeris | hell |
| 00:59.55 | Saeris | if the program at VFS wasn't only like, 1 year, i might consider going there |
| 01:00.05 | Saeris | if only to get out of california for a while |
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| 01:00.07 | onetwo | so expensive though |
| 01:00.11 | RodOfNOD | btw u see this? hehe http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Lindsay_Lohan_SC2Mapster.jpg |
| 01:00.15 | Saeris | yea |
| 01:00.27 | Saeris | 1 year at VFS is the same price as 3 at Gnomon down in hollywood i think |
| 01:00.39 | Saeris | and the education seems to be as successful at both places |
| 01:00.54 | onetwo | i go to UBC and i pay like $500 a class |
| 01:00.56 | onetwo | VFS is like 50,000 |
| 01:00.58 | crazyfingers | gnomon is the shit i hear |
| 01:00.59 | onetwo | just for 1 year |
| 01:01.06 | crazyfingers | far as videos go |
| 01:02.00 | Saeris | i pay $26/unit at my community college.... but i've completed enough units now to graduate with a bachelors, though I can only earn as much as the associates i've gotten here |
| 01:02.20 | Saeris | i think i've completed about 100+ units now |
| 01:02.29 | Mephs | wow thats cheap. comparatively. |
| 01:02.38 | Saeris | community college is cheap, lol |
| 01:02.41 | Mephs | i still have school loans in the 5-digits to pay off, and i never even finished |
| 01:02.55 | Saeris | $3000 for my whole education so far, in tuition at least |
| 01:03.00 | Saeris | but no schools will accept me |
| 01:03.04 | Saeris | at least not state schools |
| 01:03.09 | Mephs | meh |
| 01:03.12 | Mephs | degrees are so overrated |
| 01:03.17 | Saeris | cuz no place will take transfers anymore |
| 01:03.25 | Mephs | i know more than all of the guys we got w/ degrees |
| 01:03.26 | Mephs | and i never got one |
| 01:03.30 | Saeris | not even some vocational schools >.< |
| 01:03.31 | crazyfingers | because its all about the $ |
| 01:03.31 | Mephs | at work |
| 01:03.42 | onetwo | i think the degree just proves you can follow orders |
| 01:03.45 | Mephs | but thats cuz i got my career education hands-on 100% |
| 01:03.48 | onetwo | more than you actually know stuff |
| 01:03.48 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:03.55 | onetwo | but i agree with you mephs |
| 01:03.56 | Mephs | it doesn't prove anything of the sort lol |
| 01:04.04 | Mephs | yu can get a degree half-assing your way through college |
| 01:04.07 | Mephs | partying most of the time |
| 01:04.13 | Saeris | seriously |
| 01:04.17 | Saeris | been that way for me |
| 01:04.17 | onetwo | not at mine :/ |
| 01:04.18 | Mephs | it doesn't prove anything |
| 01:04.29 | crazyfingers | or you can work your ass off and quit early because you realize its BS |
| 01:04.34 | Mephs | i was dean's list all 2.5 years at my university |
| 01:04.37 | onetwo | LOL |
| 01:04.37 | Saeris | i've only been doing this to get to other places |
| 01:04.45 | Saeris | can care less about an AA degree |
| 01:04.45 | Mephs | then i ran out of money even with the grants they gave mea nd had to drop |
| 01:04.51 | Saeris | that can't even get me a retail job atm |
| 01:04.53 | Mephs | but some employers really care about that piece of paper |
| 01:04.56 | onetwo | its a good way to waste time though |
| 01:05.01 | Mephs | (i think its so they dont have to deal with as many applicants) |
| 01:05.21 | Mephs | but without a degree i make about as much as someone with a degree so i'm not that bitter about it |
| 01:05.26 | Mephs | i just wish i didn't have to pay for a half-education |
| 01:05.28 | Mephs | still |
| 01:05.35 | onetwo | yeah |
| 01:05.37 | Mephs | it was mostly stuff i already knew too, idk why i bothered |
| 01:05.42 | onetwo | but thats how they make their money |
| 01:05.50 | Mephs | i passed all my CS classes with flying colors cuz it was like noob shit |
| 01:06.24 | crazyfingers | so move on to the next level |
| 01:06.28 | Mephs | i did. |
| 01:06.32 | Mephs | i got a real job :p |
| 01:06.37 | crazyfingers | grats |
| 01:06.40 | Mephs | where i had to solve real problems |
| 01:06.49 | Saeris | i'm hoping that i'll start at gnomon between next spring and fall |
| 01:07.00 | Saeris | just really concerned about where i'll live |
| 01:07.01 | crazyfingers | or just buy their DVD's |
| 01:07.09 | crazyfingers | which are probably better than the corriculum |
| 01:07.09 | Mephs | most of what you learn at college |
| 01:07.13 | Mephs | you can learn just reading hte damn books |
| 01:07.15 | Mephs | that they make you buy |
| 01:07.23 | onetwo | i love pizza hut online delivery system |
| 01:07.26 | onetwo | no talking to people |
| 01:07.28 | Saeris | naw crazy, i've tried the dvd's, they're not as good as hands on training |
| 01:07.28 | onetwo | awesome |
| 01:07.31 | Saeris | i mean |
| 01:07.33 | Saeris | they are |
| 01:07.34 | Saeris | but |
| 01:07.40 | Mephs | hands on will always be the best way to learn |
| 01:07.42 | Saeris | having an instructor to ask questions about what you are doing |
| 01:07.43 | Mephs | obviously |
| 01:07.46 | Saeris | helps a lot more |
| 01:07.50 | Mephs | testing is retarded too |
| 01:07.55 | Mephs | it just tests who can memorize things better |
| 01:08.05 | Mephs | i never understood why testing was so focused in the school system |
| 01:08.14 | Saeris | i don't think they really have tests either though |
| 01:08.22 | Mephs | oh yea i'm just saying |
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| 01:08.28 | Saeris | mostly just about completing projects and building your portfolio, lol |
| 01:08.39 | Mephs | back in the dark ages you got work thru apprenticeship |
| 01:08.53 | crazyfingers | if you were the 1/1000 lucky enough for it |
| 01:08.58 | crazyfingers | if you weren't you got raped on a farm |
| 01:09.01 | Mephs | lol |
| 01:09.11 | Mephs | thats the old degree system. |
| 01:09.12 | spokes | hey, i'm trying to make two variables that have different numerical values within a certain range, is there an easy way to do this? |
| 01:09.14 | Mephs | it worked, obviously! |
| 01:09.49 | onetwo | not really sure what you want spokes |
| 01:09.53 | onetwo | a random number? |
| 01:10.17 | spokes | i want to assign random values to two variables |
| 01:10.21 | spokes | but i want to make sure they're different |
| 01:10.38 | Saeris | just do an if statement to compare |
| 01:10.38 | onetwo | okay |
| 01:10.41 | onetwo | so make them both random |
| 01:10.43 | Saeris | do a random for the first variable |
| 01:10.50 | Saeris | then check the second against the first |
| 01:10.53 | onetwo | then do an if to compare like saeris said, and if theyre equal, just add some number to the 2nd one |
| 01:10.55 | onetwo | like 1 |
| 01:11.01 | Saeris | and re-roll until you get two different ones |
| 01:11.12 | onetwo | thats a simple way |
| 01:11.21 | onetwo | what Saeris said works too but potentially could go on infinitely |
| 01:11.27 | onetwo | 0.00000!% chance |
| 01:11.29 | onetwo | 1* |
| 01:11.31 | Mephs | ^ |
| 01:11.33 | Saeris | even better just have a while, where the condition is the variables are the same |
| 01:11.42 | Mephs | its so infinitely small that that will happen that its almost like you shouldn't care about it happening |
| 01:11.44 | onetwo | haha |
| 01:11.53 | onetwo | depends on the number range |
| 01:11.57 | onetwo | if youre randoming betwen 1 to 10 |
| 01:12.05 | onetwo | or 0.000 to 0.999 |
| 01:12.08 | Mephs | its still unlikely to loop enough |
| 01:12.13 | Mephs | that it'd be a problem |
| 01:12.24 | spokes | alright, that sounds good |
| 01:12.28 | onetwo | oh itll be a problem |
| 01:12.30 | onetwo | or ill make it be a problem |
| 01:12.48 | Saeris | either way spokes it comes down to what you need the two variables for, so go on that and tweak it to your purposes |
| 01:12.51 | spokes | mostly i was just wondering if there's a way to say like "a random number between 1 and 10 but not variable_1 or whatever" |
| 01:13.02 | onetwo | not that simple |
| 01:13.03 | Mephs | "if i can't break it, ship it." |
| 01:13.04 | spokes | alright |
| 01:13.05 | onetwo | but do what Saeris said |
| 01:13.07 | spokes | will do |
| 01:13.08 | spokes | thanks :) |
| 01:13.12 | Saeris | np |
| 01:16.21 | Saeris | hope blizzard releases another patch soon. been waiting on the new features they've promised for it |
| 01:16.35 | RodOfNOD | u know whats cool? |
| 01:16.39 | Saeris | ? |
| 01:16.51 | crazyfingers | Tiberium? |
| 01:17.04 | RodOfNOD | seeing the engineering bay and sci facility flying with full animations :> |
| 01:17.10 | RodOfNOD | but yes tiberium is also cool |
| 01:17.40 | Saeris | heh, they adding in flight for engi bay finally? |
| 01:17.53 | RodOfNOD | no its been there the whole time |
| 01:17.56 | RodOfNOD | i just make it happen :> |
| 01:18.00 | Saeris | ah |
| 01:18.08 | Saeris | well blizz is dumb for not doing that zZz |
| 01:18.12 | Saeris | annoys the crap outta me |
| 01:18.42 | RodOfNOD | yes well i think the rational was..only buildings that have addons can lift |
| 01:18.49 | Saeris | and damn, over 10 million facebook users have voted now |
| 01:19.01 | crazyfingers | have said they voted |
| 01:19.15 | crazyfingers | facebook is full of fakers |
| 01:19.20 | crazyfingers | that's the whole point |
| 01:19.34 | Saeris | rod, could also be only unit producing structures can lift off aswell |
| 01:19.44 | Saeris | remember command centers don't have addons =P |
| 01:19.48 | Saeris | well |
| 01:19.49 | Saeris | they do |
| 01:19.53 | Saeris | but not the same as the rest |
| 01:20.27 | Mephs | 1,000,000 ppl on facebook clicked a button cuz thats what you do on facebook |
| 01:20.29 | Mephs | is click buttons |
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| 01:20.41 | Mephs | it basically shoves this big button in your face |
| 01:20.44 | Mephs | so if you dont click it |
| 01:20.46 | Mephs | it'll never go away |
| 01:21.02 | Saeris | it still doesn't, even if you say you voted |
| 01:21.08 | Saeris | you have to tell it to hide |
| 01:27.53 | Saeris | blizz announced the contest winners |
| 01:27.56 | Saeris | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1050213 |
| 01:28.16 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:28.18 | onetwo | i sent you the link |
| 01:28.21 | onetwo | for the new version |
| 01:28.27 | onetwo | only change is right around the behemoth part |
| 01:30.58 | Mephs | kk |
| 01:34.05 | Mephs | i likes XD |
| 01:34.14 | onetwo | okay |
| 01:34.18 | onetwo | which one you like more? |
| 01:34.25 | Mephs | hmm |
| 01:34.37 | Mephs | welllllllll |
| 01:34.57 | Mephs | hrm |
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| 01:35.00 | Mephs | i hate being critical |
| 01:35.09 | Mephs | if the stalking part came before the behemoth scene |
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| 01:35.25 | onetwo | hmm do you think that would be too much though? |
| 01:35.27 | onetwo | like okay zombie rush |
| 01:35.31 | onetwo | then stalking part |
| 01:35.33 | onetwo | then behemoth |
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| 01:35.37 | Mephs | like say they move out after the zombie rush |
| 01:35.42 | onetwo | yeah? |
| 01:35.44 | Mephs | and someone looks over their shoulder (straggles behind) |
| 01:35.58 | onetwo | hmm k |
| 01:36.02 | onetwo | brb |
| 01:36.03 | Mephs | and you use the actual predator pounce effect |
| 01:36.05 | onetwo | keep writing stuff |
| 01:36.07 | onetwo | eating dinner |
| 01:36.09 | Mephs | mk |
| 01:36.23 | Mephs | idk what you disabled in the map to get it to work |
| 01:36.34 | Mephs | but you could use the predator pounce effect i put in there |
| 01:36.45 | Mephs | to actually get someone pounced, and maybe the sniper could shoot it off of him |
| 01:36.48 | Mephs | if you want to keep it simple |
| 01:37.06 | Mephs | if thats too much work just go with v1 XD |
| 01:37.09 | Mephs | it looks awesome either way |
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| 01:41.46 | RodOfNOD | anyone know where exactly the sound plays for a unit that is moving? |
| 01:45.41 | spokes | i'm trying to make a dialog i can reference later and i can't find the option to give it a name or any other kind of identifying characteristic |
| 01:46.09 | RodOfNOD | when u make it there is a global created |
| 01:46.24 | RodOfNOD | that globals name is LastCreatedDialog |
| 01:47.47 | spokes | and the next one i create then takes that name? |
| 01:47.59 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 01:48.08 | RodOfNOD | so u have to assign it to a local or globalvariable u declare |
| 01:48.20 | RodOfNOD | before u make the next one of course |
| 01:48.46 | spokes | ah |
| 01:48.51 | spokes | i can make a variable of type dialog |
| 01:48.55 | spokes | and then assign it to that one |
| 01:48.56 | spokes | awesome |
| 01:48.58 | spokes | thank you! |
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| 01:49.54 | RodOfNOD | np |
| 01:52.32 | newbie | RodOfNod what do you need to do with a movement sound |
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| 01:58.25 | Dustin | Oh hAi |
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| 02:18.32 | Dustin | Damnit my missile keeps being affected by ground height |
| 02:20.50 | FockeWulf | lol |
| 02:20.55 | FockeWulf | Anyone here good with actors? |
| 02:21.09 | Dustin | Im not horrible |
| 02:21.19 | FockeWulf | ok |
| 02:21.26 | FockeWulf | here is what i wanna do in a nutshel |
| 02:21.33 | FockeWulf | i want to basically take a marine |
| 02:21.41 | FockeWulf | cut it at the waist |
| 02:21.43 | FockeWulf | so its 2 units |
| 02:21.56 | FockeWulf | the first unit is it's legs, which are governed my movement orders |
| 02:22.13 | FockeWulf | the second is the body, weapon, and head which will act more like an independant turret |
| 02:22.21 | FockeWulf | although one that is manually aimed |
| 02:22.34 | FockeWulf | and I have a way i can make em move together |
| 02:22.42 | FockeWulf | via data editor |
| 02:23.02 | FockeWulf | the question is, how would i break em apart in 3ds? |
| 02:23.32 | FockeWulf | i mean i know about welds and such |
| 02:23.36 | Dustin | I dont know enough about 3ds max |
| 02:23.45 | FockeWulf | ok |
| 02:23.46 | Dustin | I'd assume you just cut |
| 02:23.54 | FockeWulf | well not exactly |
| 02:23.57 | Dustin | Both mesh and bones |
| 02:23.59 | FockeWulf | id be editing the meshes a bit |
| 02:24.14 | Dustin | Well I mean Copy, Paste to a new file |
| 02:24.32 | Dustin | Then select the bottom half and delete |
| 02:24.39 | Dustin | And switch it for the other one |
| 02:24.44 | FockeWulf | uhhh |
| 02:25.02 | FockeWulf | does sc2 allow models with gaps in the mesh? |
| 02:25.13 | FockeWulf | cause a some games don't |
| 02:25.19 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 02:25.25 | onetwo | doesnt sc2 portrait models |
| 02:25.27 | onetwo | have gaps |
| 02:25.27 | Dustin | I dont see why it wouldnt |
| 02:25.42 | Dustin | If so, close the bottom and top of each model off |
| 02:26.06 | FockeWulf | and just leave those parts untextured since they won't be seen anyways? |
| 02:26.18 | Dustin | Ya I mean if you're connecting at the waist |
| 02:26.21 | Dustin | doesnt even matter |
| 02:26.30 | FockeWulf | ok |
| 02:26.44 | Dustin | If you want you can throw on a circle plane and meld it to the mesh there or something |
| 02:26.49 | Dustin | To fillt he gap |
| 02:26.54 | FockeWulf | ok |
| 02:27.16 | FockeWulf | fair enough |
| 02:27.18 | FockeWulf | and btw |
| 02:27.46 | FockeWulf | i was helping dark rev with an issue a bit, but i'd like to know if the rest of you are having an issue with it too |
| 02:27.59 | FockeWulf | apparently according to darkrev the model attachements are not working |
| 02:28.07 | FockeWulf | for the m3 exporter/importer |
| 02:29.27 | FockeWulf | cause he was trying to get a rifle to stay on and it was hovering in front of the unit instead |
| 02:30.06 | Dustin | When he loaded it up or what? |
| 02:30.23 | FockeWulf | when he uses it in game |
| 02:30.38 | Dustin | Hmm |
| 02:30.54 | FockeWulf | his is about the most lagless projectile system ive tested so far |
| 02:31.04 | FockeWulf | its just that the weapon is hovering in front of the unit |
| 02:31.12 | FockeWulf | and he says he has it attached right and everything |
| 02:31.18 | Dustin | Mines pretty lagless |
| 02:31.29 | FockeWulf | Mind if i test it? |
| 02:31.36 | Dustin | sure |
| 02:31.41 | Dustin | you on us? |
| 02:31.44 | FockeWulf | NA yes |
| 02:32.38 | FockeWulf | FockeWulf.178 |
| 02:33.12 | Dustin | Dustin 374 |
| 02:33.20 | Dustin | gotta publish and load another bowl, will be a sec |
| 02:33.53 | FockeWulf | ok |
| 02:33.57 | FockeWulf | what kind of map are you making btw? |
| 02:34.34 | Dustin | Im working on a Diablo style Skill based movement/combat system right now for my Action RTS game |
| 02:35.09 | FockeWulf | nice |
| 02:35.16 | FockeWulf | im making a few that will use similar engines |
| 02:36.22 | FockeWulf | one of em is a space rouges rm |
| 02:36.40 | FockeWulf | cept you will be firing from the ships turret sights instead of overhead |
| 02:36.56 | FockeWulf | how many projectiles can your engine handle? |
| 02:37.03 | FockeWulf | i mean on the map at one time? |
| 02:37.34 | Dustin | Havent tested |
| 02:38.04 | FockeWulf | ok cause i and a few of my clan m8's tested his to upwards of around 300+ when we started getting latency issues |
| 02:38.08 | Dustin | My triggers are only calling an effect when you shoot |
| 02:38.17 | RodOfNOD | anyone know what changed on the terms and license agreement? |
| 02:38.19 | FockeWulf | ah ok |
| 02:38.27 | FockeWulf | sup rod |
| 02:38.30 | FockeWulf | no |
| 02:38.32 | FockeWulf | didn't read it |
| 02:38.45 | FockeWulf | i think though it may have been for the blizz dota and such |
| 02:38.48 | Dustin | They addeD tower defense to the first drop down list |
| 02:38.49 | FockeWulf | maybe a little copyright claim on it |
| 02:38.51 | Dustin | and it's defaulted |
| 02:38.57 | Dustin | And it doesnt work |
| 02:39.00 | Dustin | That's about it |
| 02:39.05 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 02:39.06 | FockeWulf | really? |
| 02:39.11 | FockeWulf | they added a game that is broken? |
| 02:39.18 | Dustin | Not a game |
| 02:39.19 | RodOfNOD | but i meant on the actual license itself |
| 02:39.22 | Dustin | A search selector |
| 02:39.30 | Dustin | Ma3RuSas9 |
| 02:39.34 | FockeWulf | ah ok |
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| 02:42.32 | Zara | hellooo |
| 02:53.12 | spokes | is there any way to make a trigger that activates when a specific dialog item is clicked instead of just "any dialog item"? |
| 02:55.08 | Saeris | gotta set your dialog items to variables then i think you can change Any to whatever that variable is |
| 02:55.21 | Saeris | or else use a condition for that variable |
| 02:55.46 | Dustin | Spokes |
| 02:55.55 | Dustin | Do an Event, when any dialog is clicked |
| 02:56.12 | Dustin | then an IF statement, If Dialog = the dialog you want, run this action |
| 02:56.28 | spokes | the if is in conditions? |
| 02:56.39 | Dustin | Actions |
| 02:56.45 | Dustin | If Then Else |
| 02:57.23 | Saeris | i think what dustin means is you'd have one trigger handle all of your dialog item actions |
| 02:57.51 | Zara | guys anyone knows how to align an image and a text in the same line? |
| 02:58.18 | Saeris | which yea, use an if then else and for each else statement, the condition is the dialog item used |
| 02:58.43 | Saeris | still gotta set each item to a variable when you create them though |
| 02:59.04 | Saeris | else you can't call them really |
| 02:59.07 | Saeris | brb |
| 02:59.52 | spokes | hmm |
| 02:59.54 | spokes | i'll try that out |
| 02:59.55 | spokes | thanks |
| 03:02.02 | Saeris | np |
| 03:02.09 | Dustin | I might work on my UI tonight |
| 03:02.51 | Zara | guys anyone knows how to align an image and a text in the same line? |
| 03:07.11 | Dustin | I do not sir |
| 03:07.26 | Zara | ==( |
| 03:08.05 | Saeris | dialogs don't really have aligns as far as i know. it's all absolute position based |
| 03:08.23 | Saeris | dunno why they didn't just make their system more like HTML/CSS |
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| 03:09.08 | Ashamed | i really want cali results to be in |
| 03:09.32 | Saeris | same, probably won't hear it until after my interview's over tonight |
| 03:09.48 | Ashamed | we got our demi in! |
| 03:09.50 | Dustin | dude me to |
| 03:10.12 | Ashamed | john hickenlooper = mayer that legalized weed for the city of denver ^^ |
| 03:10.25 | Dustin | nice! |
| 03:12.07 | Jygga | reddit killed vote.sos.ca.gov |
| 03:12.11 | Jygga | ;) |
| 03:12.49 | spokes | what's the difference between dialogs and dialog items? |
| 03:13.20 | Dustin | Dialog is like a Book |
| 03:13.25 | Dustin | Dialog items are like pages |
| 03:15.38 | Dustin | Dude I use furniture way to much when I try to explain to people what game making shit is |
| 03:15.51 | Dustin | Arrays like a bookcase |
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| 03:24.32 | Ashamed | i dont think its passed :( |
| 03:24.41 | Ashamed | everything i am saying is like 54%+ no |
| 03:25.29 | Dustin | wtfffff |
| 03:26.15 | Ashamed | but i dunno how many votes are actually counted |
| 03:28.42 | spokes | alright it _just_ clicked what you were saying dustin thanks a ton |
| 03:31.59 | Dustin | np |
| 04:02.37 | Ashamed | come on prop 19 |
| 04:03.06 | Net | what's the result? |
| 04:03.10 | nicoli_s | stephen colbert said nay |
| 04:03.22 | Ashamed | like 54 no |
| 04:03.24 | Net | prop 19 is the weed one? |
| 04:03.30 | Ashamed | yeah lol |
| 04:03.37 | Net | 54% no? |
| 04:03.39 | Dustin | 57 - 43 last I checked |
| 04:03.43 | Net | damn |
| 04:03.48 | Net | they should allow it |
| 04:03.51 | Net | who cares |
| 04:03.54 | Dustin | I know :( |
| 04:03.56 | Ashamed | if it does not pass then it will soon |
| 04:04.08 | Dustin | Ya, this is really close |
| 04:04.41 | Ashamed | there are still ignorant people voting against it |
| 04:04.48 | Ashamed | once that changes it will then pass it up |
| 04:05.58 | Mephs | thats not going to change. |
| 04:06.02 | Mephs | or are you going to kill them all!? |
| 04:06.09 | Mephs | i'm reporting you tot he authorities. |
| 04:06.11 | Ashamed | it will cahnge |
| 04:06.22 | Mephs | people being ignorant? |
| 04:06.24 | Dustin | they will run out of excuses not to |
| 04:06.24 | Ashamed | there will be more younger people |
| 04:06.30 | Mephs | that'll never change |
| 04:06.43 | Ashamed | every 2 years everyone that was 16 is now 18 |
| 04:06.59 | Ashamed | everyone that is 68 could vote the year before too |
| 04:07.02 | Mephs | why is it only kids this applies to? |
| 04:07.14 | Ashamed | because kids are the ones who don't appose it |
| 04:07.17 | Mephs | -_- |
| 04:07.28 | Mephs | thats some flawed reasoning |
| 04:07.32 | Ashamed | the people that are older saw it turn illegal |
| 04:07.41 | Ashamed | it is.... |
| 04:07.46 | Mephs | not all kids are for it either |
| 04:07.46 | Ashamed | how does that not make sense?? |
| 04:07.58 | Mephs | their parents views often wash off on them |
| 04:07.58 | Ashamed | the majority of the voters voting are young |
| 04:08.05 | Ashamed | thats not the case |
| 04:08.29 | Ashamed | google prop 19 and young |
| 04:08.35 | Mephs | there's more than just kids voting |
| 04:08.38 | Mephs | yes or no |
| 04:09.23 | Ashamed | there are |
| 04:09.29 | Ashamed | but the majority of the ones voting yes |
| 04:09.32 | Ashamed | are younger |
| 04:10.12 | Ashamed | so the longer we wait the more younger people come in, and the people getting older most likely wont change their views. |
| 04:11.20 | Ashamed | it will be in a few more years |
| 04:11.33 | Ashamed | its on our ballot next election |
| 04:12.07 | Dustin | God damn this missile |
| 04:12.11 | Mephs | hmm |
| 04:12.15 | Mephs | how would i get a missile to move straight up |
| 04:12.20 | Mephs | if anyone knows off the top of their head |
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| 04:13.52 | Dustin | You guys think I can make a search effect that moves a unit? |
| 04:13.59 | Mephs | yea |
| 04:14.38 | Dustin | Just apply force right? |
| 04:17.37 | Dustin | WAaaait |
| 04:17.49 | Mephs | moves a unit? |
| 04:17.51 | Dustin | Search cant get the height of a point can it? |
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| 04:18.44 | Dustin | Ya I dont think this idea is gonna work |
| 04:21.56 | Mephs | wish there was a way to muck with the game's timescale |
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| 04:23.45 | Dustin | I need a better computer |
| 04:23.47 | Dustin | :( |
| 04:24.08 | FockeWulf | ? |
| 04:24.09 | FockeWulf | lol |
| 04:24.18 | FockeWulf | thought you were headed to bed? |
| 04:24.19 | FockeWulf | lol |
| 04:25.51 | Dustin | Get unit Property Height is the Z zalue right? |
| 04:25.54 | Dustin | I couldnt sleep lol |
| 04:27.32 | FockeWulf | fair enough |
| 04:29.01 | FockeWulf | z is height |
| 04:29.02 | FockeWulf | yes |
| 04:29.15 | FockeWulf | basically |
| 04:29.24 | FockeWulf | a gravity effect will be a negative z value |
| 04:29.26 | Dustin | My missile wants to come from up above my guys head when he's lowe on the terrain... |
| 04:29.49 | FockeWulf | oh wait thats right |
| 04:29.51 | FockeWulf | you can't use units |
| 04:29.55 | FockeWulf | for projectiles |
| 04:30.01 | FockeWulf | you have to use points and actors |
| 04:30.18 | FockeWulf | that was the issue with the latency >.> stupid rapid teleports |
| 04:30.28 | FockeWulf | blizzfail totally left out a "move unit over time" function |
| 04:37.28 | FockeWulf | hmm |
| 04:37.45 | FockeWulf | is there anyway to get around the rapid unit teleport in the projectile system? |
| 04:39.35 | Dustin | I need my perodic offset to include a z value |
| 04:39.42 | Dustin | DHBgfdnfdgs |
| 04:40.46 | FockeWulf | ya i think darkrevs system of using points with actors attached is best |
| 04:41.07 | Dustin | Im using the data editor :( |
| 04:41.12 | FockeWulf | gl |
| 04:41.16 | Dustin | I can do it in triggers like nothing |
| 04:41.24 | Dustin | But Im trying to figure out this damn data ditor |
| 04:41.32 | FockeWulf | well i guess |
| 04:41.35 | FockeWulf | break it up |
| 04:41.41 | FockeWulf | cause you might be able to create a validator |
| 04:41.43 | FockeWulf | with a z offset |
| 04:41.55 | FockeWulf | then make it a requirement to hit |
| 04:42.07 | FockeWulf | about all your left with is how to make a straight firing actor |
| 04:42.17 | FockeWulf | there a spell in sc2 that will act like that? |
| 04:43.10 | Dustin | I want when they click to shoot a projectile straight, no falling off edges and stuff |
| 04:43.28 | Dustin | But when I fire the effect I have to use a Persistent and it doesnt have a z offset |
| 04:43.39 | Dustin | so if it targets a point close to a cliff |
| 04:43.42 | Dustin | it fucks up |
| 04:43.54 | Dustin | Like that sliding |
| 04:44.18 | Dustin | because it was trying to go twoards it's target 6 range away, but then it was -100 height or wahtever |
| 04:44.46 | FockeWulf | now heres an idea |
| 04:44.49 | FockeWulf | what about using a jump |
| 04:44.50 | FockeWulf | ? |
| 04:44.55 | FockeWulf | behavior |
| 04:45.11 | FockeWulf | you can write a requirement so it will only fire when the z drops out from under it |
| 04:46.10 | Dustin | Can I check height |
| 04:46.29 | Dustin | If so I can add a search to check height and adjust the units height based on the validator maybe? |
| 04:46.51 | FockeWulf | you would have to make jump behaviors in increments |
| 04:46.55 | FockeWulf | and just put them each in a range |
| 04:46.59 | FockeWulf | but ya that might work |
| 04:47.07 | FockeWulf | so like jumps for specific heights |
| 04:48.21 | Dustin | Well Im using the base map ground to make the terrain |
| 04:48.27 | Dustin | So everythings going to be different heights |
| 04:48.42 | FockeWulf | hmm |
| 04:48.44 | FockeWulf | hey question |
| 04:48.54 | FockeWulf | i just took a look at the missile turret longbolt missile? |
| 04:49.21 | FockeWulf | and i see you can make it target a point instead of a unit |
| 04:49.31 | FockeWulf | or hmm |
| 04:49.36 | FockeWulf | idk |
| 04:49.41 | FockeWulf | im just gonna do it in triggers |
| 04:49.41 | Mephs | dammmmmmmmmmn |
| 04:49.48 | FockeWulf | ? |
| 04:49.51 | Mephs | you can make some really crazy effects just fucking around with random bright things |
| 04:50.01 | FockeWulf | lol |
| 04:50.02 | Dustin | lol |
| 04:50.09 | Mephs | this looks like a star going supernova |
| 04:50.11 | Mephs | XD |
| 04:50.35 | Mephs | all i did was set yamato missiles to launch at random points around a unit |
| 04:50.42 | Mephs | and it looks fucking crazy |
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| 05:05.01 | FockeWulf | question: if i were to create a custom bullet (from my own model) how many polygons would be optimal for quality vs latency? |
| 05:05.18 | Mephs | 50000 |
| 05:05.29 | Mephs | 500,000 |
| 05:05.32 | Mephs | ONE |
| 05:05.34 | Mephs | MILLION |
| 05:05.35 | Mephs | ZERGLINGS |
| 05:05.37 | Mephs | (lagless) |
| 05:08.22 | FockeWulf | ok so as few as possible go |
| 05:08.30 | FockeWulf | cause i can just make a pryamid if i want to |
| 05:11.13 | LordAbyss | dude |
| 05:11.14 | LordAbyss | mephs |
| 05:11.15 | LordAbyss | i love you |
| 05:11.28 | LordAbyss | your random stuff is amazing |
| 05:11.28 | LordAbyss | ;) |
| 05:11.34 | Mephs | wat |
| 05:11.45 | LordAbyss | i wanna see this supernova |
| 05:11.56 | Mephs | whats your bnet acct |
| 05:12.25 | LordAbyss | im not on sc2 atm but i can get on |
| 05:12.32 | Mephs | thats what i was inferring. |
| 05:12.43 | LordAbyss | tyrannical.801 |
| 05:13.00 | LordAbyss | be on momentarily |
| 05:13.19 | FockeWulf | oh god |
| 05:13.29 | FockeWulf | point collisisions with cliffs etc... |
| 05:13.35 | FockeWulf | i have no clue how to do that |
| 05:13.37 | Mephs | incoming headache. |
| 05:13.41 | Mephs | actually its not hard |
| 05:13.47 | Mephs | just do a validator |
| 05:14.04 | Mephs | that checks for a cliff change |
| 05:14.11 | Mephs | if the cliff height is > the missle |
| 05:14.14 | Mephs | it smacks into it |
| 05:14.17 | Mephs | and suicides |
| 05:14.58 | Dustin | What if Im not usingcliffs |
| 05:15.09 | Mephs | i think it checks ground height |
| 05:15.12 | Mephs | dont quote me on that |
| 05:17.09 | FockeWulf | right now im just moving points |
| 05:20.48 | RodOfNOD | mephs i really liked ur loading screen |
| 05:21.03 | RodOfNOD | i couldnt figure out how to play though so |
| 05:22.33 | Mephs | mm |
| 05:22.36 | Mephs | you shoot zombies |
| 05:22.42 | Mephs | if you can figure out dota... |
| 05:22.45 | RodOfNOD | seriously i had no clue |
| 05:22.52 | RodOfNOD | didntknow who to attack |
| 05:22.54 | RodOfNOD | or what to do |
| 05:23.00 | Mephs | what team were you on |
| 05:23.04 | RodOfNOD | lirker |
| 05:23.06 | Mephs | oh |
| 05:23.11 | Mephs | why do noobs always pick the lurker! |
| 05:23.12 | Mephs | lol |
| 05:23.21 | Mephs | if you're on swarm team |
| 05:23.21 | RodOfNOD | wellcuz thats all that was left |
| 05:23.23 | RodOfNOD | but my pointis |
| 05:23.26 | RodOfNOD | u need HELP |
| 05:23.30 | RodOfNOD | tutorial |
| 05:23.31 | RodOfNOD | something |
| 05:23.32 | Mephs | yea |
| 05:23.35 | RodOfNOD | cuz at this point i wont play |
| 05:23.36 | Mephs | i'm being lazy about it |
| 05:23.37 | Mephs | cuz |
| 05:23.40 | Mephs | the new terrain |
| 05:23.42 | Mephs | is fucking sexy |
| 05:23.47 | Mephs | and i dont wanna touch anything till i get the map back |
| 05:24.09 | Mephs | but i'll have a tutorial introduction vote for new players |
| 05:24.24 | Mephs | or just a tutorial map you can play solo |
| 05:24.26 | Mephs | w/ create game |
| 05:24.36 | Mephs | but basically if you're swarm team |
| 05:24.39 | Mephs | you want to killt he survivors |
| 05:31.29 | ekcolnovkol|afk | can someone teach me how to get the editor to bake cookies |
| 05:31.37 | ekcolnovkol|afk | my oven is broken and i was told the editor can do anything o _o |
| 05:32.57 | Mephs | create persistent |
| 05:33.01 | Mephs | dont use offsets or you'll burn your house down |
| 05:33.10 | Mephs | periodic effect (Apply Heat) |
| 05:33.26 | Mephs | period count about 120 (150 at high altitude) |
| 05:33.26 | ekcolnovkol|afk | ooh overheating processor turns my box into an oven |
| 05:33.51 | ekcolnovkol|afk | is good idea |
| 05:36.12 | Babybug | How can I make it so that my ammo units hits the cliff, instead of jumping over it? |
| 05:36.27 | Dustin | Thats what im running into babybug :P |
| 05:38.24 | Babybug | :( |
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| 05:43.50 | Sldprt | yahoo |
| 05:45.09 | Sldprt | anyone around who cares? |
| 05:45.38 | Dustin | Cares about? |
| 05:45.58 | Sldprt | m3 |
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| 05:52.30 | Triceron | Ahoy |
| 05:52.40 | Sldprt | hi |
| 05:53.22 | Sldprt | im looking for smart people but no one is on |
| 05:53.50 | Sldprt | well smarts in the area im interested in with sc2 |
| 05:56.04 | Dustin | What do you need help with |
| 05:57.01 | Sldprt | dont need help. looking for people who know what I am talking about somewhat. I like to talk out my projects to get prespectives |
| 05:57.28 | Sldprt | programming side |
| 05:57.28 | Dustin | Well then what's up |
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| 05:58.38 | Sldprt | I just finished my application the reads everything inside an M3 file. my program orders it in a treestructure visualy |
| 05:59.43 | Dustin | Oh that's pretty cool |
| 06:00.07 | Dustin | Making a viewer? |
| 06:00.19 | Sldprt | my goal is to write an import export for SolidWorks |
| 06:00.30 | Sldprt | I already know SolidWorks API |
| 06:00.44 | Sldprt | and I have done it for DirectX viewer |
| 06:08.49 | ekcolnovkol|afk | lmao solidworks |
| 06:16.34 | currydevil | Humm, my shop don't work =| |
| 06:17.25 | Sldprt | what is funny about SolidWorks? |
| 06:19.17 | allenmelon | the news posts are getting slower... |
| 06:21.34 | Sldprt | i know. i found a forum thread that linked to blizzards firum. we get a free name change. that should be front page news |
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| 06:29.58 | currydevil | Hrm, my shop is producing a "cannot find location to place" error when i buy items... Any ideas? |
| 06:30.18 | currydevil | I've looked everywhere I can think of, it all looks exaclty like my working shop on another map. |
| 06:31.04 | Xaragoth | where's ckknight |
| 06:31.19 | Xaragoth | I gotta force him to give me a good importer from Pitbull 3 to Pitbull 4 |
| 06:31.29 | Xaragoth | I don't wanna spend 3h doing a re-config of my ui |
| 06:32.36 | currydevil | problem solved... Seems to have been an issue with the 1x1 pathing blockers I forgot to remove from under the shop. |
| 06:32.45 | currydevil | or the fact that the shop was right up against the wall.. |
| 06:32.53 | currydevil | =| |
| 06:35.01 | Dustin | Anyone want to test this map out with me real fast? |
| 06:42.00 | Mephs | ew |
| 06:42.02 | Mephs | you play wow |
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| 06:47.17 | PointBlank | is it possible to hotkey a dialog button? |
| 06:47.27 | Mephs | not directly |
| 06:47.33 | PointBlank | have to use key event? |
| 06:47.33 | Mephs | you can set up a response key for it tho |
| 06:47.35 | Mephs | yea |
| 06:47.41 | PointBlank | does that lag like hell? |
| 06:47.52 | PointBlank | i read something awhile back in the beta that it did |
| 06:47.58 | Mephs | lags like any other key based input |
| 06:48.45 | PointBlank | i just ask cuz it warns that network traffic is generated for every key press |
| 06:49.35 | PointBlank | so then the question is would i be better to use custom dialog items with key press event, or just use abilities on the command card |
| 06:49.50 | PointBlank | from a useability perspective |
| 06:50.23 | Mephs | for usability |
| 06:50.25 | Mephs | command card |
| 06:51.14 | ZarafFaraz | Anyone remember how to speed up the animation speed of a unit? |
| 06:51.18 | ZarafFaraz | I can't remember the action |
| 06:51.58 | PointBlank | i can check right now if you don't know, but Mephs do you know if you can change the icon of an ability via catalog? |
| 06:52.11 | PointBlank | animation ... not sure but isn't that timescale? |
| 06:52.20 | ZarafFaraz | hmm |
| 06:52.24 | ZarafFaraz | might be, I'll have to check |
| 06:52.42 | PointBlank | i remember looking at tychus actor and his attack animation is time scale 2 |
| 06:52.46 | PointBlank | to double speed |
| 06:52.54 | PointBlank | seemingly |
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| 06:54.18 | peterpants | hai |
| 06:54.51 | Mephs | uh |
| 06:54.55 | Mephs | the icon is in the button |
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| 07:06.25 | PointBlank | so it looks like i cannot modify a button's icon with catalog |
| 07:07.52 | Zarafu | a dialog button? |
| 07:08.01 | PointBlank | an ability button |
| 07:09.28 | PointBlank | so this sucks cuz now i either have to use dialog items instead & do the keypress event for hotkeys, or not change my button icons according to what they do :( |
| 07:09.56 | Zarafu | or you could just hide/show buttons |
| 07:10.04 | Zarafu | and have separate buttons for each image you want |
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| 07:11.09 | PointBlank | i'd need an image for every unit in the game |
| 07:11.12 | PointBlank | too much imo |
| 07:11.30 | Zarafu | *shrug* you wanted a solutino |
| 07:11.42 | PointBlank | yup thx for input :) |
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| 07:26.26 | onetwo_ | nice my comp froze again |
| 07:26.30 | onetwo_ | so annoying |
| 07:26.33 | onetwo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:26.51 | onetwo_ | freenode chat + hotmail + clickiung fast = computer unresponsive then 20 secs later crash |
| 07:27.23 | currydevil | ... bad javascript? |
| 07:27.28 | currydevil | lol |
| 07:27.34 | onetwo_ | i dont know |
| 07:27.38 | onetwo_ | this computer has always had this issue |
| 07:27.41 | onetwo_ | with windows vista maybe |
| 07:27.47 | onetwo_ | whenever memory useage is too much |
| 07:27.55 | onetwo_ | or random firefox (assume javascript) freezes |
| 07:27.59 | onetwo_ | it just crashes |
| 07:28.03 | onetwo_ | happens like once every few days |
| 07:30.08 | onetwo_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUvWSTB92Q new cinematic |
| 07:30.11 | onetwo_ | for Mephs Left 4 Death map |
| 07:30.12 | onetwo_ | enjoy |
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| 07:37.53 | ekcolnovkol|afk | cute |
| 07:39.34 | onetwo_ | lol |
| 07:39.37 | onetwo_ | its one giant trigger |
| 07:39.41 | onetwo_ | with mashed up cine voices |
| 07:44.05 | PointBlank | onetwo, up to windows 7 and buy more ram :P |
| 07:44.55 | onetwo_ | i agree |
| 07:45.02 | onetwo_ | but im the type of person who waits 4 years |
| 07:45.05 | onetwo_ | and gets an entire new box |
| 07:49.41 | onetwo | wow Mephs |
| 07:49.44 | onetwo | the new terrain is a huge upgrade |
| 07:49.48 | onetwo | youre really giving blizz some competition |
| 07:49.51 | onetwo | on their l4d map |
| 07:51.50 | Mephs | competition? |
| 07:52.00 | Mephs | who the fuck is blizzard? ha! |
| 07:52.02 | onetwo | like their 'professional inhouse' left 2 die map |
| 07:52.04 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:52.10 | Mephs | they just took the outbreak mission |
| 07:52.12 | Mephs | and add a 2nd player |
| 07:52.14 | Mephs | big deal |
| 07:52.15 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:52.21 | onetwo | i didnt actually know what theirs was |
| 07:52.31 | Mephs | TKC's got some big ideas for it |
| 07:52.39 | Mephs | i'm basically letting him do whatever he wants with the terrain |
| 07:52.45 | Mephs | and we're gonna design the cinematics and events around it |
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| 07:53.24 | ShadowTaisho | hey all |
| 07:54.58 | onetwo | cool |
| 07:55.22 | onetwo | shadow |
| 07:55.23 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUvWSTB92Q |
| 07:55.25 | onetwo | check out the new vid! |
| 07:58.54 | ShadowTaisho | looks nice |
| 07:59.19 | ShadowTaisho | i just don't like the part where they get surrounded then ace tosses a nade |
| 07:59.59 | ShadowTaisho | other than that awsome vid |
| 08:00.27 | Saeris | hmmmmm |
| 08:00.34 | ShadowTaisho | ? |
| 08:00.40 | Saeris | that was probably one of the longer interviews i'll have |
| 08:00.48 | ShadowTaisho | interview? |
| 08:00.54 | Saeris | took 2 hours, most of it just waiting for them >.< |
| 08:00.55 | ShadowTaisho | for what |
| 08:01.01 | ShadowTaisho | job? |
| 08:01.02 | Saeris | night shift at target >.> |
| 08:01.04 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:01.05 | ekcolnovkol|afk | raynor doesn't get hurt when grenades explode in his hand |
| 08:01.05 | ShadowTaisho | ahhh |
| 08:01.13 | Mephs | he's just that epic |
| 08:01.16 | onetwo | yeah |
| 08:01.17 | ShadowTaisho | neither does anyone else on his team... |
| 08:01.22 | ekcolnovkol|afk | well |
| 08:01.25 | onetwo | you should have noticed the blue wave |
| 08:01.25 | ekcolnovkol|afk | raynor shields the rest of his team |
| 08:01.26 | ekcolnovkol|afk | so |
| 08:01.27 | onetwo | only hurts zombies |
| 08:01.30 | onetwo | HAH |
| 08:01.33 | onetwo | lets make up things all night |
| 08:01.42 | ShadowTaisho | yeh he is big enough to shield the whole group by himself |
| 08:01.54 | onetwo | and satisfy nova |
| 08:01.56 | onetwo | in one night |
| 08:02.00 | ShadowTaisho | lol |
| 08:02.04 | Saeris | btw ekco, blizz try and grab you for blizzard dota? or just to tell you hey, we're making dota, gtfo |
| 08:02.10 | Mephs | raynor is the new barrens topic of discussion apparently |
| 08:02.14 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:02.17 | ekcolnovkol|afk | shh |
| 08:02.27 | Mephs | i heard they grabbed him to be a campaign slave |
| 08:02.39 | ShadowTaisho | lol |
| 08:02.50 | ShadowTaisho | so many rumors... |
| 08:03.15 | Saeris | you know not talking cuz of an NDA only makes you more suspicious |
| 08:03.26 | Saeris | not to mention talking about raynor's abilities |
| 08:03.41 | ekcolnovkol|afk | i was referring to 12's video of raynor exploding a grenade in his hand |
| 08:03.51 | ShadowTaisho | lol |
| 08:03.51 | Mephs | lol |
| 08:03.53 | Saeris | oh, well fine |
| 08:03.54 | Saeris | pfft |
| 08:03.57 | ekcolnovkol|afk | lewl |
| 08:03.58 | Saeris | i just got home! |
| 08:04.03 | ekcolnovkol|afk | and i just got hungry |
| 08:04.04 | Mephs | in other news |
| 08:04.06 | Mephs | zerglings exist |
| 08:04.09 | Mephs | and so do protoss |
| 08:04.17 | Mephs | realism exists in video games all around us! |
| 08:04.19 | ekcolnovkol|afk | so does mudkip |
| 08:04.26 | onetwo | [01:03] <Saeris> not to mention talking about raynor's abilities [01:03] <ekcolnovkol|afk> i was referring to 12's video of raynor exploding a grenade in his hand |
| 08:04.28 | onetwo | hahahahhahahaa |
| 08:04.33 | Mephs | hrm |
| 08:04.40 | Mephs | ok here's a tricky question for you advanced data editors |
| 08:04.41 | onetwo | lol come HOTS, suddenly raynor has a special targeting grenade |
| 08:04.43 | onetwo | that only hurts enemies |
| 08:04.45 | onetwo | and shields allies |
| 08:04.54 | Mephs | say an event fires multiple times at once |
| 08:04.57 | Mephs | only one actor is created |
| 08:05.02 | Mephs | why is this, and is there a way around it? |
| 08:05.09 | Mephs | i.e. a dmg effect |
| 08:05.14 | Mephs | happens many times in a row on 3 targets |
| 08:05.19 | Mephs | it only shows the actor on one |
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| 08:06.07 | Saeris | well i'm gonna continue to slack on my mapping for another night and play some more new vegas |
| 08:06.10 | Bibendus | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1050213 |
| 08:06.11 | Bibendus | AHAHAH |
| 08:06.12 | Bibendus | finally |
| 08:06.30 | Saeris | gotta get back in the groove of things soon tho |
| 08:06.32 | Mephs | -_- |
| 08:06.33 | Mephs | " |
| 08:06.34 | Saeris | been 2 weeks now |
| 08:06.38 | Bibendus | lol |
| 08:06.42 | Mephs | "Photon Command is great. I beat it once. :)" |
| 08:07.15 | Bibendus | finally |
| 08:07.18 | Bibendus | we know the third map name |
| 08:07.19 | onetwo | Mepsh im not sure what youre talking about |
| 08:07.26 | onetwo | should be triggered for each effect |
| 08:07.31 | Mephs | yea idk why its not |
| 08:07.35 | onetwo | are you talking about a searc heffect? |
| 08:07.37 | Mephs | everything in the radius is getting hit by the efefct |
| 08:07.39 | Mephs | effect* |
| 08:07.40 | onetwo | applying like 5 things at once |
| 08:07.43 | Mephs | well |
| 08:07.48 | ekcolnovkol|afk | does anyone else get autonmatically redirected to eu.battle.net even though they're in the us? |
| 08:07.50 | Mephs | its a persistent |
| 08:07.55 | Mephs | with a .0625 period |
| 08:07.58 | onetwo | oh |
| 08:07.59 | Mephs | that does a search area |
| 08:08.03 | Mephs | and the search area does a stun + dmg |
| 08:08.08 | Bibendus | oh and its a remake |
| 08:08.09 | Bibendus | of a sc1 map |
| 08:08.11 | Bibendus | great :| |
| 08:08.14 | Bibendus | soo original |
| 08:08.15 | Mephs | yea. |
| 08:08.24 | ekcolnovkol|afk | i love how |
| 08:08.26 | Mephs | the winners are ...really underwhelming |
| 08:08.27 | ekcolnovkol|afk | all the maps are single player |
| 08:08.40 | Bibendus | so undeserved lol |
| 08:08.41 | ekcolnovkol|afk | very convenient |
| 08:08.47 | Mephs | lol |
| 08:08.47 | Bibendus | no |
| 08:08.51 | Bibendus | missile arena |
| 08:08.53 | Mephs | even they know their shit's broke! |
| 08:08.54 | Bibendus | can't be single player :| |
| 08:09.01 | Bibendus | MAD |
| 08:09.02 | Bibendus | sry |
| 08:09.09 | ekcolnovkol|afk | hasn't missile arena been tested many many times? |
| 08:09.12 | ekcolnovkol|afk | or was the rocket arena |
| 08:09.15 | ekcolnovkol|afk | *that |
| 08:09.30 | Bibendus | and its |
| 08:09.34 | Bibendus | an online game |
| 08:09.37 | ekcolnovkol|afk | mm |
| 08:09.37 | Bibendus | not a single player game |
| 08:09.39 | ShadowTaisho | well guys i just got on to say hi so night |
| 08:09.43 | Bibendus | did they implement a single player? |
| 08:09.45 | onetwo | night |
| 08:09.48 | ekcolnovkol|afk | idk |
| 08:09.48 | onetwo | you nade scene hating bastard |
| 08:09.50 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:09.51 | ekcolnovkol|afk | i would think so |
| 08:09.55 | ekcolnovkol|afk | i saw people playing it by themselves |
| 08:09.56 | ShadowTaisho | it is called criticism |
| 08:10.03 | ShadowTaisho | if you don't wana hear it don't ask me to watch it |
| 08:10.05 | Bibendus | sixen do something useful |
| 08:10.07 | Bibendus | and make a news |
| 08:10.08 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:10.10 | ekcolnovkol|afk | since.. there were only 4 consoles per winning game |
| 08:10.13 | ekcolnovkol|afk | P: |
| 08:10.43 | ekcolnovkol|afk | sixen has spiky hair |
| 08:10.46 | Mephs | is that even news worthy? :( |
| 08:10.46 | ekcolnovkol|afk | :> |
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| 08:10.59 | Sixen | yeah yeah |
| 08:11.06 | ekcolnovkol|afk | lol |
| 08:11.11 | Sixen | i'm going to sleep. i'll be getting 4 hours right now. |
| 08:11.14 | Mephs | "some maps won a contest" |
| 08:11.17 | Bibendus | xD |
| 08:11.18 | Sixen | soooooooooo. 4 hours > 3 hours. |
| 08:11.18 | Mephs | "/post" |
| 08:11.19 | Sixen | night. |
| 08:11.19 | Bibendus | GUYS |
| 08:11.21 | Bibendus | let's all reply |
| 08:11.26 | Bibendus | saying mad was unelegible |
| 08:11.31 | Bibendus | and that the other 2 maps suck |
| 08:12.10 | onetwo | [01:10] <ekcolnovkol|afk> sixen has spiky hair [01:10] <Mephs> is that even news worthy? :( |
| 08:12.17 | ekcolnovkol|afk | definitely |
| 08:15.14 | Bibendus | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1050213#c-933073797 |
| 08:15.16 | Bibendus | guyz plz |
| 08:15.22 | Bibendus | spam that their map sucks |
| 08:15.29 | Bibendus | and that MAD was unelegible |
| 08:15.31 | Mephs | i'll spam your face. |
| 08:15.37 | Bibendus | i luv it |
| 08:16.02 | Bibendus | oh i did my great sight exploration trigger |
| 08:16.03 | Bibendus | :D |
| 08:17.44 | Xaragoth | throws a bomb into the channel |
| 08:17.45 | Xaragoth | DUCK! |
| 08:19.18 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:24.59 | Mephs | we have a winner! |
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| 09:04.16 | Babybug | When will we get to play the maps they announced at BlizzCon? |
| 09:15.41 | Bibendus | believe me |
| 09:15.51 | Bibendus | they suck... u don't want to play them |
| 09:18.23 | Babybug | I am interested in the new models :) |
| 09:18.30 | Bibendus | oooh |
| 09:18.31 | Bibendus | bliz map |
| 09:18.32 | Bibendus | s |
| 09:18.42 | Bibendus | i tought the winning maps of the contest |
| 09:18.43 | Bibendus | :D |
| 09:19.08 | Babybug | Oh no, lol. |
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| 09:37.20 | Clord | >_> |
| 09:37.24 | Clord | <_< |
| 09:37.35 | Bibendus | !_! |
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| 09:49.27 | Clord | >_> |
| 09:49.30 | Clord | <_< |
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| 10:29.48 | Babybug | How do I make an attached model scale to the attachee? |
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| 10:37.10 | Kenetor | hey guys |
| 10:51.56 | Clord | hi |
| 10:52.00 | Clord | lol |
| 10:52.15 | Clord | please wait.... sc2mapster is currently bit above dead horse state |
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| 10:57.56 | Xaragoth | at least the horse can small |
| 10:57.58 | Xaragoth | *smell |
| 10:58.15 | harl | wuff wuff |
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| 12:44.56 | A1win | anyone in EU up for a test? a base defense / progression map with about an hour of gameplay so far (or can be completed faster if we're good enough :P) |
| 12:48.53 | grim001 | so do any of you actually have an interest in coding for SC2 using a C++ / C# style syntax |
| 12:49.08 | grim001 | galaxy in its normal state is almost useless |
| 12:59.59 | mike9055 | i think everyone does |
| 13:01.04 | Kenetor | hey guys, in a space map im making ive used the wow camera controls so i can rotate around my fleet, to find that there is only half a skybox lol, is there any full 360 space skyboxes? |
| 13:05.48 | Kenetor | anyone? |
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| 13:27.42 | Ashamed | prop 19 almost passed... that just means its going to pass within the next 4-6 years |
| 13:27.51 | Ashamed | it was one of the closest races yesterday... |
| 13:33.53 | Dustin|Laptop | Hell ya it was |
| 13:34.01 | Dustin|Laptop | Hell ya it was? |
| 13:34.04 | Dustin|Laptop | wtf |
| 13:34.08 | Dustin|Laptop | Stupid keyboard |
| 13:34.12 | Dustin|Laptop | What were the final numbers* |
| 13:34.43 | Ashamed | 8 % down |
| 13:35.02 | Ashamed | so 58 - 42 |
| 13:35.29 | Ashamed | it was 500k people |
| 13:45.59 | A1win | is it possible to increase the pause limit or remove it completey? |
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| 14:35.59 | vjeux | please find it back! |
| 14:35.59 | Bibendus | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/13900-download-bovine-intervention-blizzcon-entry/ |
| 14:35.59 | Bibendus | oh |
| 14:35.59 | Bibendus | there was no video! |
| 14:35.59 | Bibendus | who cares |
| 14:35.59 | Bibendus | we ll make the sc2mapster contest |
| 14:36.00 | Bibendus | :D |
| 14:36.57 | Bibendus | maybe |
| 14:36.57 | Bibendus | we should need |
| 14:36.57 | Bibendus | the zergling thing map |
| 14:37.10 | Bibendus | do u know where to find it? |
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| 14:45.40 | Ashamed | was any of the winners from sc2 mapster? |
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| 14:46.14 | Bibendus | the guy of |
| 14:46.15 | Bibendus | rod |
| 14:46.17 | Bibendus | rad |
| 14:46.18 | Bibendus | mad |
| 14:46.20 | Bibendus | rad-mad |
| 14:46.37 | Bibendus | but i suppose he stopped mapping |
| 14:46.51 | Bibendus | because i don't think he still came on mapster forum |
| 14:46.59 | Bibendus | i think he just renamed and send his map to the contest :| |
| 14:47.09 | Ashamed | lol |
| 14:48.51 | Ashamed | erg wtf is wrong with blizzard |
| 14:49.28 | Bibendus | dunno |
| 14:49.29 | Bibendus | :! |
| 14:49.39 | Bibendus | they just choosed shitty/uneligible maps |
| 14:50.32 | vjeux | he sent it because I told him he had great chances to win :p |
| 14:50.45 | vjeux | at first he didn't want to |
| 14:51.13 | vjeux | and now he is rich and famous :p |
| 14:51.21 | Bibendus | and that sucks |
| 14:51.26 | Bibendus | because i could have send crush company too |
| 14:51.30 | Bibendus | calling it... |
| 14:51.34 | Bibendus | crash company |
| 14:51.35 | Bibendus | lol |
| 14:52.10 | Bibendus | it got featured first so I suppose I would have win the contest with it ... |
| 14:52.18 | vjeux | btw he didn't rename it because of the contest |
| 14:52.23 | Bibendus | but i worked on CC from beta |
| 14:52.34 | vjeux | but because there was a bug on bnet |
| 14:52.36 | Bibendus | so it's just unfair |
| 14:52.51 | Bibendus | the map was just uneligible |
| 14:52.57 | Bibendus | no excuses |
| 14:53.02 | Bibendus | actually it's the best map of 3 |
| 14:53.13 | Bibendus | but that doesnt matter |
| 14:53.16 | Bibendus | rules are rules |
| 14:53.39 | vjeux | no |
| 14:53.54 | vjeux | the goal of the rule was to get not well known maps |
| 14:54.02 | Bibendus | ah |
| 14:54.11 | Bibendus | a featured map on mapster |
| 14:54.16 | Bibendus | and i didnt read that |
| 14:54.20 | Bibendus | a low known map |
| 14:54.21 | Bibendus | lol |
| 14:54.29 | Bibendus | unpublished means unpublished to me |
| 14:54.50 | Bibendus | it was published and featured on mapster |
| 14:54.54 | Bibendus | published on bnet |
| 14:55.18 | vjeux | what they wanted are fun maps that aren't really known on bnet |
| 14:55.30 | vjeux | that's what they used for the decision |
| 14:55.47 | Bibendus | rules for the contest |
| 14:55.50 | Bibendus | are rules... |
| 14:55.52 | Bibendus | its a contest |
| 14:55.54 | vjeux | they had no intention of being nazis and finding if the map had already been published or anything |
| 14:55.56 | Bibendus | with money |
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| 14:56.05 | Bibendus | we know it NOW |
| 14:56.15 | vjeux | we knew it for the beginning |
| 14:56.18 | vjeux | I mean |
| 14:56.20 | Bibendus | nope |
| 14:56.20 | Bibendus | ... |
| 14:56.23 | vjeux | 5000$ is nothing |
| 14:56.32 | vjeux | they just wanted to show off maps for blizzcon |
| 14:56.48 | Bibendus | 5k is enough |
| 14:56.56 | Bibendus | to buy 5% of my new house |
| 14:56.57 | Bibendus | :| |
| 14:57.10 | Ashamed | lol |
| 14:57.16 | vjeux | blizzcon must have cost 500k dollars to organize |
| 14:57.17 | Ashamed | well bibendus that is honorable of you |
| 14:57.20 | vjeux | probably more |
| 14:58.04 | vjeux | they wanted maps made by players to show that they cared about users |
| 14:58.15 | vjeux | they throw $30k and voila |
| 14:58.54 | Bibendus | why i dont find |
| 14:58.55 | vjeux | they had no intention of being nazi with their rules |
| 14:58.59 | Bibendus | the not published thing |
| 14:59.16 | vjeux | it was on the submission apge |
| 14:59.22 | Bibendus | searching but.. |
| 14:59.25 | vjeux | was one ambigus line |
| 14:59.28 | Bibendus | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/contests/sc2maps/rules.html |
| 14:59.37 | vjeux | it's not in the rules |
| 14:59.44 | vjeux | it was when you submitted a map |
| 14:59.52 | vjeux | you had a checkbox |
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| 15:00.07 | Bibendus | oh k :!| |
| 15:00.11 | vjeux | saying that you didn't publish your map before the end of the sumbissions |
| 15:00.32 | vjeux | anyway got to go |
| 15:00.38 | vjeux | but people went crazy about this small line |
| 15:00.47 | vjeux | and therefore stupid |
| 15:00.49 | Bibendus | nope |
| 15:00.51 | Bibendus | i read clearly |
| 15:00.55 | Bibendus | it must have been |
| 15:00.56 | Bibendus | a new map |
| 15:01.01 | Bibendus | new unpublished map |
| 15:01.08 | vjeux | yeah maybe |
| 15:01.16 | vjeux | but if you think 2s about what blizzard wanted |
| 15:01.17 | Bibendus | and mad was published |
| 15:01.18 | Bibendus | before the contest |
| 15:01.20 | Bibendus | ... |
| 15:01.26 | Bibendus | i don't care what blizzard wanted |
| 15:01.30 | Bibendus | they could have write it |
| 15:01.33 | vjeux | you would have realized that they didn't care about maps that didn't get to the first 2 pages |
| 15:02.11 | vjeux | well, if you want to win, you have to think about what they want |
| 15:02.16 | vjeux | and adapt your entry to it |
| 15:02.21 | Bibendus | i tought to what they want |
| 15:02.26 | Bibendus | something simple and nice to show |
| 15:02.30 | Bibendus | at blizzcon |
| 15:02.32 | vjeux | yeah |
| 15:02.36 | Bibendus | but if a rule says |
| 15:02.38 | vjeux | and that was the winner maps |
| 15:02.44 | Bibendus | you cant send a melee map |
| 15:02.48 | Bibendus | that means u can't send a melee map |
| 15:02.54 | Bibendus | if they say you can't send a published map |
| 15:02.57 | Bibendus | you can't send a published map |
| 15:03.11 | Bibendus | how can I imagine that this row was a joke? |
| 15:03.12 | Bibendus | ... |
| 15:03.36 | Bibendus | maybe i could have win the contest sending a melee map :| |
| 15:03.44 | vjeux | well you lose :p |
| 15:03.55 | vjeux | anyway got to go |
| 15:03.58 | vjeux | ttyl |
| 15:03.59 | Sevenix | didnt the rules state it had to be a "UMS" map? |
| 15:03.59 | Bibendus | maybe not :D |
| 15:04.02 | Bibendus | yep |
| 15:04.10 | Bibendus | as they said unpublished map |
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| 15:04.20 | Sevenix | yeah |
| 15:17.37 | Xaragoth | blizz never showed a lot of taste for quality |
| 15:17.44 | Xaragoth | see machinima contest |
| 15:18.06 | Xaragoth | love rocket shit place 1 while epic stuff like that one from irdeen or redeye got place 2nd and 3rd |
| 15:18.53 | Xaragoth | but than again, blizz fails to deliver a lot lately, so no wonder |
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| 15:39.22 | Babybug | How common is map bumping? |
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| 15:46.54 | nicoli_s | yes |
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| 16:02.41 | Bibendus | To enter, a qualified entrant will complete the entry checklist and thereafter submit an original, unreleased, UMS custom map created with the StarCraft II World Editor |
| 16:02.44 | Bibendus | found where it was |
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| 16:20.10 | wOlfLinG | :O I'm reading something on Kotaku.com about that video game censoring thing in america. The judjes seem to think that you can buy bideo games where you torture babies -.- |
| 16:20.18 | wOlfLinG | judges* |
| 16:20.56 | Bibendus | yeee |
| 16:21.00 | Bibendus | luv these games |
| 16:21.03 | Bibendus | i want 1 |
| 16:21.23 | wOlfLinG | Name me 1 game where you actually do that (And japanese only games don't count xD) |
| 16:21.31 | Ashamed | i think anyone should have the right to buy anything |
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| 16:21.53 | DarkRevenant | what the bloody fuck is wrong with dialog boxes |
| 16:22.09 | Ashamed | children obv need parent consent... but we should have freedom of speach |
| 16:22.16 | Ashamed | and if you want to make a game about torturing babies |
| 16:22.22 | Ashamed | then so be it |
| 16:22.37 | DarkRevenant | on my 1024x768 resolution, a 1024x768 dialog box takes up 1/4 of the screen area |
| 16:22.42 | DarkRevenant | 1/2 each dimension |
| 16:22.43 | wOlfLinG | Yeah. I really hope the law doesn't pass :/. Even though i will still be able to buy stuff, it will still have serious repurcussions even over here. |
| 16:22.50 | DarkRevenant | which law? |
| 16:23.07 | wOlfLinG | Not sure of exactly what it is |
| 16:23.11 | Kenetor | cant you get babies in the sims? and then just not feed them? |
| 16:23.30 | wOlfLinG | Kenetor: ... |
| 16:23.32 | Bibendus | i suppose you can |
| 16:23.33 | Bibendus | kill them too |
| 16:23.33 | Bibendus | :D |
| 16:23.36 | wOlfLinG | :D |
| 16:23.36 | DarkRevenant | if you dont feed them |
| 16:23.43 | DarkRevenant | child protective services comes in and takes them away |
| 16:23.46 | Bibendus | lol |
| 16:23.54 | DarkRevenant | if they cant get in, the baby just sits there starving for eternity |
| 16:23.55 | Bibendus | and then they come to your home |
| 16:24.04 | wOlfLinG | Although the sims isn't that realistic. Not feeding them for a day will kill the child >:( |
| 16:24.05 | Bibendus | and arrest you |
| 16:24.06 | Bibendus | :D |
| 16:24.13 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 16:24.25 | Kenetor | there we go, we can torture babies in video games, now back to on topic mod talk |
| 16:24.30 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 16:24.39 | DarkRevenant | anyone know what's with dialog box sizes |
| 16:24.42 | DarkRevenant | what's the deal |
| 16:25.05 | DarkRevenant | what exactly is a 400x400 size dialog box? |
| 16:25.09 | DarkRevenant | 400 pixels? apparently not |
| 16:25.11 | wOlfLinG | It's based on a certain res |
| 16:25.12 | DarkRevenant | its more like 200 pixels |
| 16:25.17 | Ashamed | no not back to mod |
| 16:25.24 | DarkRevenant | which res, then |
| 16:25.30 | Kenetor | i want to know how to get a fully spherical sky box, at the mo the one in my space map is only hemispherical :( |
| 16:25.42 | DarkRevenant | i must know because this is for a custom HUD that must be formatted to each player's screen res |
| 16:25.45 | wOlfLinG | So maybe a 1680x1050 one would take up say 50% of the screen on all monitors |
| 16:25.58 | DarkRevenant | you put in your screen res and it gets reformatted to look good on different aspect ratios and sizes |
| 16:26.19 | DarkRevenant | I must know exactly how the size and position works |
| 16:26.31 | DarkRevenant | for this to work |
| 16:26.37 | Dustin|Laptop | Then you're fucked :P |
| 16:26.51 | Lilianna | I dont think you can make dialogues based on screen ratio |
| 16:26.56 | Lilianna | its been a problem many have ran into |
| 16:27.06 | DarkRevenant | the player can input a screen res |
| 16:27.09 | DarkRevenant | and then math handles the rest |
| 16:27.19 | DarkRevenant | i just need to know how the engine handles dialog box sizes |
| 16:27.33 | wOlfLinG | Dark: Try making it fullscreen :D |
| 16:27.37 | Lilianna | then start testing |
| 16:27.40 | wOlfLinG | Then it won't be a problem! |
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| 16:28.23 | wOlfLinG | I just lost the game! |
| 16:28.32 | DarkRevenant | can you click units and order them through a fullscreen dialog? |
| 16:28.41 | DarkRevenant | so if i just moved images around on a master dialog fullscreen |
| 16:28.49 | DarkRevenant | oh |
| 16:28.51 | DarkRevenant | but wait |
| 16:28.53 | DarkRevenant | i forgot |
| 16:28.54 | DarkRevenant | dialog ITEMS |
| 16:29.00 | DarkRevenant | also conform to the dialog system |
| 16:29.19 | DarkRevenant | so that wouldnt work either way |
| 16:29.58 | wOlfLinG | Well, if you make sure all dialog items are in the bottom 1/4 or so of the screen, make it fullscreen then hide the background it would work :) |
| 16:30.04 | wOlfLinG | It would just scale |
| 16:30.45 | DarkRevenant | that's not really a feasible solution |
| 16:30.55 | DarkRevenant | the interface goes around the whole perimeter of the screen |
| 16:31.04 | DarkRevenant | i got most of the elements down but |
| 16:31.10 | DarkRevenant | two in particular are screwing with me |
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| 16:31.20 | DarkRevenant | the ammo indicator is in top left, that works fine |
| 16:31.30 | DarkRevenant | spell selection wheel and mana bar in the bottom left |
| 16:31.34 | DarkRevenant | whoops ammo in bottom left |
| 16:31.38 | DarkRevenant | mana/spell in bottom right |
| 16:31.45 | DarkRevenant | health/armor in top right |
| 16:31.49 | wOlfLinG | Well why is it needed so much? |
| 16:32.02 | DarkRevenant | and i want a spell quickbar on the left side of the screen |
| 16:32.22 | DarkRevenant | a rectangle with a width 1/7 the size of its length |
| 16:32.31 | Dustin|Laptop | You can just use screen position then for your UI, then just check on all the resolutions to make sure it doesnt overlap anywhere |
| 16:32.44 | DarkRevenant | there's way too many resolutions |
| 16:32.47 | DarkRevenant | also |
| 16:32.55 | DarkRevenant | the interface has to morph slightly |
| 16:33.19 | DarkRevenant | on the bottom is a bar that stretches from the leftmost boundary of the spell wheel to the rightmost boundary of the ammo indicator |
| 16:33.26 | DarkRevenant | no shorter, no longer |
| 16:33.42 | DarkRevenant | this would be simple stuff if i knew how the dialog sizes and positions worked |
| 16:33.57 | DarkRevenant | then i could use the resolution the player puts in an input box to setup everything perfectly |
| 16:34.10 | DarkRevenant | you see, the interface is made up of custom images, not dialog borders and such |
| 16:34.21 | DarkRevenant | on low resolutions the images are downscaled so the interface isnt too huge |
| 16:34.30 | DarkRevenant | on high resolutions the interface is downscaled so the images aren't stretched |
| 16:35.20 | DarkRevenant | i'd just like to know the function of dialog screen position and scale |
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| 16:36.28 | DarkRevenant | sixen |
| 16:36.30 | wOlfLinG | Sixen! I just lost the game!!! |
| 16:36.39 | DarkRevenant | what exactly is the dialog scale and position |
| 16:36.47 | DarkRevenant | what's the reference frame? |
| 16:37.04 | DarkRevenant | on a 1024x768 screen, a 1024x768 dialog takes up about 1/4 of the screen |
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| 16:37.19 | DarkRevenant | and a 2048x1536 is fullscreen |
| 16:37.39 | DarkRevenant | so i thought |
| 16:37.55 | DarkRevenant | "oh hey dialog box size is 1/2 of a real pixel per unit of size" |
| 16:38.22 | DarkRevenant | so then i did my stuff and |
| 16:38.28 | DarkRevenant | a few of the interface items were |
| 16:38.33 | DarkRevenant | horribly off-format |
| 16:38.58 | DarkRevenant | so my assumption must be incorrect |
| 16:39.02 | DarkRevenant | what's the reference resolution? |
| 16:39.20 | Dustin|Laptop | Why would you say 1/2 when it really only took up 1/4th? |
| 16:39.31 | DarkRevenant | you fail at math |
| 16:39.37 | DarkRevenant | 1/4 of the screen is a unit of area |
| 16:39.42 | DarkRevenant | 1/2 of a pixel is a unit of length |
| 16:39.48 | DarkRevenant | (1/2)^2 = 1/4 |
| 16:40.18 | Dustin|Laptop | Eh I was thinking 1/4th the size |
| 16:40.28 | DarkRevenant | 1/4 of the screen |
| 16:40.30 | Sixen | I lost the game now too |
| 16:40.34 | Dustin|Laptop | Ya I gotcha now |
| 16:40.42 | DarkRevenant | meaning 4 of them take up whole screen |
| 16:40.52 | Sixen | =o |
| 16:40.56 | DarkRevenant | argh do i have to abandon reference anchors |
| 16:41.03 | DarkRevenant | and just set everything from the bottom left |
| 16:41.09 | DarkRevenant | and hope that people put in the right resolution? |
| 16:41.42 | DarkRevenant | at least if i used reference anchors, someone who puts in a bogus resolution could still play |
| 16:41.59 | DarkRevenant | if I don't, then you HAVE to use exactly the right screen res or you're fucked |
| 16:42.06 | A1win | sounds like your GUI design fails if it doesn't take different aspect ratios into account :p |
| 16:42.11 | DarkRevenant | it DOES |
| 16:42.16 | DarkRevenant | take different aspect ratios into account |
| 16:42.46 | DarkRevenant | the problem is the formatting changes based on resolution |
| 16:42.52 | DarkRevenant | i dont use regular dialogs |
| 16:42.58 | DarkRevenant | i use premade images |
| 16:43.01 | DarkRevenant | no borders |
| 16:43.11 | A1win | you can scale images too |
| 16:43.12 | DarkRevenant | it's got to be scaled correctly |
| 16:43.22 | DarkRevenant | it must not be upscaled on high resolutions |
| 16:43.30 | DarkRevenant | but on low resolutions it must be downscaled so the interface isnt huge |
| 16:43.43 | DarkRevenant | so on so forth |
| 16:43.49 | A1win | doesn't sound like that's possible |
| 16:43.54 | DarkRevenant | it's possible |
| 16:44.10 | DarkRevenant | player needs to input their resolution, but its certainly possible |
| 16:44.21 | DarkRevenant | the problem is nobody fucking understands how dialog sizes actually work |
| 16:44.21 | A1win | well if you can somehow get the resolution as values |
| 16:44.36 | DarkRevenant | people just go "herp derp lets try size 1337 and see wat it does" |
| 16:44.44 | A1win | they are 1:1 on a certain minimum resolution, could be 640x480 |
| 16:44.46 | A1win | or 800x600 |
| 16:45.05 | DarkRevenant | you cant go below 800x600 |
| 16:45.14 | A1win | k probably that then |
| 16:45.36 | A1win | so it assumes screen height is always 600 and scales the sizes to that |
| 16:45.37 | DarkRevenant | then what does that actually mean, then? |
| 16:45.47 | A1win | and assumes that if it's 4:3 the screen width is 800 |
| 16:45.47 | DarkRevenant | formatting screws up on 1024x768 |
| 16:46.04 | A1win | what do you mean? |
| 16:46.05 | DarkRevenant | on my 1024x768 screen, an 800 size dialog |
| 16:46.10 | DarkRevenant | takes up about 3/5 of the height |
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| 16:46.18 | A1win | 800 height or width? |
| 16:46.24 | DarkRevenant | well both |
| 16:46.26 | DarkRevenant | its a square |
| 16:46.28 | A1win | ._o |
| 16:46.34 | Dekar | D: |
| 16:46.40 | DarkRevenant | 3/5 of the height |
| 16:46.40 | A1win | it won't even fit on 800x600 screen |
| 16:46.45 | DarkRevenant | no shit |
| 16:46.49 | LordAbyss | eww its sixen |
| 16:46.50 | DarkRevenant | i'd scale it down for 800x600 |
| 16:46.54 | A1win | so why do you set it as 800x800 |
| 16:46.57 | A1win | :E |
| 16:47.05 | DarkRevenant | actually |
| 16:47.07 | A1win | you scale it up, not down |
| 16:47.12 | DarkRevenant | it probably would fit on 800x600 |
| 16:47.19 | DarkRevenant | you see |
| 16:47.29 | DarkRevenant | 1024x768-size dialog |
| 16:47.36 | DarkRevenant | is 1/4 of the screen |
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| 16:47.41 | DarkRevenant | at the res of 1024x768 |
| 16:47.43 | DarkRevenant | 1/2 in each dimension |
| 16:48.00 | A1win | hmmf |
| 16:48.16 | DarkRevenant | meaning it's really 512x384 pixels |
| 16:48.37 | DarkRevenant | so i tried just doubling the size of everything on my interface |
| 16:48.46 | DarkRevenant | and it worked fine except for a couple interface objects |
| 16:49.03 | DarkRevenant | and now i'm starting to wonder if screen anchors mess shit up |
| 16:49.07 | DarkRevenant | because |
| 16:49.10 | DarkRevenant | take for example |
| 16:49.22 | DarkRevenant | i have a 300-width box on the left |
| 16:49.29 | DarkRevenant | and a 600-width box on the right |
| 16:49.39 | A1win | ah I was wrong then, the default isn't 800x600 then... |
| 16:49.41 | DarkRevenant | and in between i want a rectangle that stretches from the leftmost border |
| 16:49.43 | DarkRevenant | to the rightmost |
| 16:50.00 | DarkRevenant | so i set the anchor to the left |
| 16:50.10 | DarkRevenant | then set offset to 300 |
| 16:50.27 | DarkRevenant | and width to 2x the screen res minus 900 |
| 16:50.52 | DarkRevenant | and it stretches roughly halfway from box to box |
| 16:51.38 | DarkRevenant | instead of the whole way |
| 16:52.05 | A1win | hmm |
| 16:52.13 | DarkRevenant | if there's a reference resolution |
| 16:52.17 | DarkRevenant | much higher than 1024x768 |
| 16:52.23 | DarkRevenant | that would explain why its not going the full distance |
| 16:52.25 | A1win | 1024 is not 1/2 of the width |
| 16:52.39 | DarkRevenant | i can redo all of my math |
| 16:52.43 | DarkRevenant | if i know that reference resolution |
| 16:52.47 | DarkRevenant | or at least the mechanics behind it |
| 16:52.55 | DarkRevenant | it handles scale and position differently |
| 16:52.57 | DarkRevenant | it's fucking annoying |
| 16:53.34 | DarkRevenant | i thought that i would be able to make a simple interface layout |
| 16:53.40 | DarkRevenant | since i did an entire physics system |
| 16:53.49 | DarkRevenant | but no, my plot has been foiled again |
| 16:55.23 | A1win | it's 1600x1200 + a bit extra at the borders |
| 16:55.35 | A1win | make a 1600x1200 sized dialog and it fits nicely into the screen on 4:3 aspect ratio |
| 16:56.12 | A1win | and on widescreen, it'd just add empty space at the sides |
| 16:58.10 | Kenetor | anyone made a flow chart of how a unit owrks yet? |
| 16:59.14 | Kenetor | *works |
| 17:01.28 | Babybug | unit -> actor <- model |
| 17:02.23 | Kenetor | claps "thank you einstein!" i didnt know it was so simple |
| 17:03.00 | Kenetor | makes you wonder how so many people are having a hard time with it all |
| 17:06.52 | Babybug | because the data editor has a horrible UI |
| 17:07.20 | Kenetor | yes, it show everythink linked on a unit making it hard to find what comes from where |
| 17:07.26 | Kenetor | hence my question |
| 17:08.03 | Kenetor | was hoping for a "goto" reference for making new units |
| 17:08.17 | Kenetor | i dont like duplicating as its messy |
| 17:09.26 | Ashamed | there is |
| 17:09.33 | Ashamed | look fo rit on the fourms |
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| 17:10.07 | Demonette | No NEWS???? |
| 17:10.11 | Demonette | Why are there no news =( |
| 17:10.15 | Kenetor | ive looked high and low, all i find is tutorial walkthroughs that dont explain everythign and skip bits |
| 17:10.30 | Demonette | ? |
| 17:11.13 | Kenetor | was just talking about how it would be handy to have a flow chart on creating new units from scratch |
| 17:11.36 | Kenetor | since the data editor has you running in circles linking everything |
| 17:12.29 | Babybug | 1. create a new model 2. fill the model field 3. create a new unit 4. create a new actor 5. select the unit at the first field 6. select the model at the model field |
| 17:13.30 | Kenetor | i was talking more advanced than that |
| 17:15.00 | Dustin|Laptop | They need to have like one entity that links shit |
| 17:15.04 | Dustin|Laptop | we'll call it a Linker |
| 17:15.06 | Kenetor | with abilitys, weapons, death effects, |
| 17:15.20 | Dustin|Laptop | That way we can organize all this damn linking |
| 17:15.25 | Kenetor | aye |
| 17:15.50 | Kenetor | just making up a flow chart just for a weapon on a pin board and its so stupidly long |
| 17:16.05 | Demonette | lol |
| 17:16.08 | Demonette | Well |
| 17:16.12 | Ashamed | so you dont have to go to the model |
| 17:16.14 | Ashamed | and then the actor |
| 17:16.16 | Ashamed | and then the unit |
| 17:16.18 | Demonette | it is based how you want to do it or not? |
| 17:16.24 | Ashamed | you could just attach everything in one spot! |
| 17:16.40 | Demonette | you can do it in nearly any order |
| 17:16.57 | Demonette | you can start with the weapons or the upgrades... or everything else |
| 17:17.12 | Demonette | but i guess its a good thing to start with the unit at first |
| 17:17.13 | Demonette | ... |
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| 17:17.28 | Demonette | so acteur model and unit are the first things to do |
| 17:17.46 | Kenetor | wouldnt advise starting anywhere unless your really good at organising, starting at assests first, then work linking them back all the way to the final unit link |
| 17:17.52 | Demonette | but it could be that you have to rework some parts there while you add some abilities and stuff |
| 17:17.54 | Kenetor | so you dont miss anything |
| 17:18.44 | Demonette | Best thing is to have a clear idea of what the unit should be in the end |
| 17:19.19 | Demonette | i thing anything else isn't that important |
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| 17:19.32 | Demonette | yea... and starting with the base is good |
| 17:19.35 | Demonette | so the unit itself |
| 17:19.42 | Demonette | thats were i would start |
| 17:19.54 | Demonette | cause i like to have something to look at while being in progress |
| 17:20.03 | Kenetor | still, a quick ref would be highly usefull when you want to go change something instead of spend 10 mins looking for it |
| 17:20.11 | Demonette | kind a messy to have an unvisibile unit most of the time |
| 17:20.41 | Demonette | but you maybe don't need all the refs |
| 17:21.02 | Kenetor | i thaught cannon turrets would be easier than beams lol i was wrong |
| 17:21.10 | Demonette | =) |
| 17:21.15 | Demonette | true |
| 17:21.48 | Kenetor | one of my units is suppose to have cannons but just getting the unit to work i used beams due to them being easy |
| 17:22.03 | Demonette | =( |
| 17:22.22 | Demonette | Poor unit |
| 17:22.25 | Kenetor | working on making it a cannon now |
| 17:22.33 | Kenetor | wanna see? |
| 17:22.56 | Demonette | Well at the moment i don't have much to do with SC2 anymore XD but well if you want to show off then do =P |
| 17:23.06 | Kenetor | :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvLmg8cb2ng |
| 17:23.16 | Kenetor | anymore? why not? |
| 17:23.53 | Demonette | Cause it's not able to model with blender in it =P and well... i don't got the motivation as so many other things aren't able with data... =( |
| 17:24.43 | Demonette | are those eve ships? |
| 17:24.51 | Kenetor | compaired to other games, ive never seen anything as modable as this |
| 17:24.57 | Demonette | ah no you said gothic... nice |
| 17:25.05 | Demonette | yea true |
| 17:25.10 | Kenetor | no the ships are from battle fleet gothic |
| 17:25.13 | Demonette | but i want some custom ressources... |
| 17:25.22 | Kenetor | although getting eve ships in would look sick |
| 17:25.32 | Demonette | you done the model by 3ds max? |
| 17:25.36 | Kenetor | yeah |
| 17:25.43 | Demonette | Grrrrr!!! |
| 17:25.48 | Demonette | I will hate you for this =P |
| 17:25.57 | Kenetor | got plenty of models to bring in |
| 17:26.00 | Kenetor | gonna look awesome when all the turrets work |
| 17:26.08 | Demonette | I hope you make some tyranid spaceships too =D |
| 17:26.17 | Demonette | want to see krakens XD |
| 17:26.33 | Kenetor | http://www.moddb.com/mods/gothic-commander/images/tyranid-cruiser#imagebox |
| 17:26.54 | Demonette | Mmmmhh |
| 17:27.00 | Demonette | I would call it okay =P |
| 17:27.33 | Kenetor | would look alot better witha newer texture and normal map |
| 17:27.59 | Kenetor | but since the nids would need animation they might be last in |
| 17:28.04 | Demonette | Not too organic... well i don't really like the offical tyranid ships... |
| 17:28.28 | Demonette | Yey!!! Animaty animations =D |
| 17:28.41 | Kenetor | im totally loving you can attach models to other models in the editor |
| 17:29.00 | Kenetor | gonna make making all the varients of cruiser sooooooooooooooooooo much easier |
| 17:29.06 | Demonette | ;) |
| 17:29.25 | Kenetor | can literally make the models up ike the table top ones with different weapon banks and what not |
| 17:29.50 | Demonette | i think your beam should be a little thinner as well |
| 17:30.09 | Kenetor | but its gonna take a huge organisation effort from me, and hope that my brain doesnt exxplode getting my head around it all |
| 17:30.12 | Demonette | and you want moving towers? |
| 17:30.37 | Kenetor | you mean turrets? yeah |
| 17:30.44 | Demonette | turrets yeah |
| 17:30.47 | Kenetor | the cobra has one |
| 17:31.00 | Kenetor | look carefully in the vid you will see it |
| 17:31.22 | Demonette | Bit it is static i guess |
| 17:31.27 | Demonette | Mmmhhh |
| 17:32.23 | Kenetor | maybe but only cos the units are all facing forwards anyway |
| 17:32.47 | Demonette | You could ask the one who animated the xel naga-missleturret... as i know you need kind of an attachment point that is related to the turret and stuff |
| 17:32.55 | Demonette | so much stuff model intern |
| 17:33.18 | Demonette | as i can't play around much with models at the moment i haven't worked or tried much with it |
| 17:33.44 | Kenetor | not read that one but i think ive got attachments down, just gotta make sure i put in the SC2 reference points on the model |
| 17:34.12 | Kenetor | my turret never worked untill i added a few more points and linked them correctly on the model |
| 17:34.45 | Kenetor | it used to to just point forward and the beam fire in the correct arc off the end of the turret |
| 17:35.02 | Demonette | Mmmhh well then? |
| 17:35.09 | Demonette | it works or not? |
| 17:35.13 | Kenetor | took me nearly a week to get the unit working from scratch |
| 17:35.45 | Kenetor | works fine now, the turret can turn 135 degrees each way |
| 17:36.31 | Kenetor | just added a wow type camera to the map too so i can go around my fleet from every angle |
| 17:38.12 | Kenetor | hoping to get a texture artist soon too |
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| 17:42.27 | Demonette | would be very very nice =) |
| 17:42.38 | Demonette | sounds great to have BC Gothic in SC2 ;) |
| 17:43.12 | Kenetor | not much info on custom races on the forum either :( |
| 17:43.25 | Kenetor | but i guess it will all come with time |
| 17:43.57 | Demonette | custom races? |
| 17:44.53 | Kenetor | yes there are many races on 40k, protoss, zerg and terran arent one fo them |
| 17:45.11 | Demonette | Aaaahhh |
| 17:45.13 | Demonette | custom races |
| 17:45.14 | Demonette | ... |
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| 17:45.20 | Demonette | well you can create own ones |
| 17:45.20 | Demonette | ... |
| 17:45.37 | Demonette | not actually sure if they are working correctly... |
| 17:45.45 | Demonette | but all in all you can create them |
| 17:45.51 | Kenetor | yes but the races dont appear in the drop downs of alot of the attributes |
| 17:45.52 | Demonette | and set starting units for them |
| 17:45.55 | Demonette | and similar |
| 17:46.12 | Kenetor | yae ive looks a little into it |
| 17:46.18 | Demonette | Tried if they appier on an uploaded map? |
| 17:46.28 | Kenetor | not uploaded anything yet |
| 17:46.47 | Demonette | You could also try to set those stuff via Game Attributs |
| 17:47.07 | DarkRevenant | thx A1win |
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| 17:48.34 | Demonette | Not sure if you can surpress the normal race choosing stuff for players |
| 17:48.36 | Demonette | Hi Helral |
| 17:49.07 | Kenetor | must be a way somehow but its a ways off getting ready for a playable release |
| 17:49.50 | Demonette | well or else just make a ingame choosing menu ^^ |
| 17:50.21 | Kenetor | main priority is getting the main imperial weapon systems up and running |
| 17:50.36 | Kenetor | torps, cannons, lances and launch bays |
| 17:50.42 | Kenetor | lances are done |
| 17:50.48 | Demonette | =P |
| 17:51.00 | Kenetor | launch bays wont be an issue i think |
| 17:51.18 | Demonette | i would prefair Sporemines Sporeclouds Bioplasm and stuff XD |
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| 17:59.43 | Helral | meows |
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| 18:03.59 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o vjeux] by ChanServ |
| 18:04.13 | Helral | hey vjeux |
| 18:04.20 | vjeux | hey Helral |
| 18:04.35 | Arthas | hey chanserv |
| 18:04.40 | Helral | did you notice the incorrect link yet ;p |
| 18:04.51 | vjeux | what incorrect link? |
| 18:05.08 | Helral | at the reply bit in the forums. ;p or did you already fix it ;p |
| 18:06.21 | vjeux | didn't really worked on maspter lately |
| 18:06.43 | Helral | The type of markup for this entry. Click here for details. <-- the click here for details linky ;p |
| 18:06.56 | vjeux | yeah :p |
| 18:07.48 | Helral | ;p |
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| 18:11.39 | Helral | meows |
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| 18:34.15 | Demonette | Mh |
| 18:35.25 | ShadowTaisho | hey all |
| 18:45.03 | Kenetor | greetings |
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| 18:52.29 | Bibendus | vjeux |
| 18:52.32 | Bibendus | how can i make |
| 18:52.38 | Bibendus | the thread with poll? |
| 18:53.59 | Dekar | vjeux, why dont you update the events? how should i know when the next modcraft is? D: |
| 18:54.39 | Dekar | this is outrageous! |
| 18:55.11 | Dekar | this is even more outrageous! |
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| 19:03.35 | Bibendus | ol |
| 19:03.39 | Bibendus | lolllll |
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| 19:33.39 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 19:50.10 | Ashamed | so i have an agent that told me she has been trying to get into this system for over a year and a half.. and that people have tried everything... I walked her through how to reset her password she was able to get in |
| 19:50.12 | Ashamed | i love my job |
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| 19:57.47 | Ashamed | who wants to chat for about an hour and a half? |
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| 20:05.20 | Bibendus|AFK | chat of |
| 20:05.21 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 1 minute 41 seconds |
| 20:05.25 | Bibendus | weather? |
| 20:05.42 | Ashamed | sure |
| 20:05.46 | Bibendus | pass |
| 20:05.49 | Ashamed | how is the weather like? |
| 20:05.56 | Bibendus | who cares |
| 20:05.59 | Ashamed | why did you say weather |
| 20:06.00 | Bibendus | i'm at home |
| 20:06.01 | Bibendus | xD |
| 20:06.07 | Ashamed | if you didn't want to talk about weather |
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| 20:06.27 | Bibendus | just to piss you off |
| 20:06.28 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:07.03 | Ashamed | where do you live? |
| 20:07.29 | nicoli_s | Alabama!\ |
| 20:09.09 | Arthas | Sweden! |
| 20:11.37 | Arthas | Ashamed if you want us to chat with you for 90 minutes you'd better start replying to our retarded answers |
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| 20:28.21 | ShadowTaisho | O_O |
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| 20:30.19 | Ashamed | lol |
| 20:30.21 | Ashamed | i am sry |
| 20:30.30 | Ashamed | some guy came up and gave me a new laptop setup |
| 20:31.06 | Ashamed | its only 60 minutes now |
| 20:32.17 | Arthas | congrats! |
| 20:32.22 | Ashamed | i know |
| 20:32.26 | Arthas | Probably stolen though |
| 20:32.45 | ShadowTaisho | ohhh can i call the police on u? |
| 20:32.52 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 20:32.53 | Arthas | ShadowTaisho = shadowtiger? |
| 20:32.58 | Arthas | ~seen ShadowTiger |
| 20:33.17 | purl | shadowtiger <4cc7434e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.199.67.78> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 38d 21h 19m 27s ago, saying: 'yo'. |
| 20:33.17 | Ashamed | i am actually setting up an IBM asset |
| 20:33.17 | Ashamed | so i know it is not stolen |
| 20:33.18 | Arthas | You keep telling yourself that :) |
| 20:33.26 | Helral | meows |
| 20:33.30 | ShadowTaisho | nope sorry wrong person arthas |
| 20:33.35 | Ashamed | but we are about to be knee deep in an audit anyways |
| 20:33.40 | Ashamed | we are missing 80 laptops |
| 20:34.33 | Arthas | O_o |
| 20:34.45 | Arthas | Send me one |
| 20:34.51 | Arthas | that will make it 81 which is a nice number |
| 20:34.58 | Arthas | its 18 backwards! |
| 20:35.01 | ShadowTaisho | send me |
| 20:35.03 | ShadowTaisho | one |
| 20:35.08 | ShadowTaisho | 82 is an even number |
| 20:35.12 | ShadowTaisho | more lucky <_< |
| 20:35.26 | Arthas | and if you divide it by 3 you get 20 something! |
| 20:36.28 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 20:38.01 | Demonette | Omg it's arthas!! |
| 20:38.46 | Helral | gives Demonette the "anti-Arthas" weapon. |
| 20:38.56 | Demonette | What does it do? |
| 20:39.02 | CKeen | it kills you |
| 20:39.02 | Arthas | hides |
| 20:39.15 | Helral | doesn't know, it's in the experimental stage ;p |
| 20:39.16 | Demonette | does it should kill Arthas instead? |
| 20:39.21 | Demonette | oO |
| 20:39.27 | Arthas | Try it on CKeen first |
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| 20:39.37 | Demonette | Whooot? You give me an experimental weapon? |
| 20:39.37 | Arthas | or ashamed, that would get you a free laptop |
| 20:39.40 | CKeen | uses IDDQD |
| 20:39.46 | Helral | wait with using it tilil I'm at least a mile away :) |
| 20:40.02 | Demonette | oO |
| 20:40.07 | Helral | runs a mile away from Demonette. |
| 20:40.07 | Demonette | great -.- |
| 20:40.22 | Demonette | doesn't you already are over a mile away from me? |
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| 20:40.28 | Helral | shouts "ok go ahead" (barely audible at the distance) |
| 20:40.38 | Ashamed | or is he? |
| 20:40.46 | Demonette | he is |
| 20:40.52 | Ashamed | OR IS HE |
| 20:41.30 | Arthas | places himself besides Helral somewhat curious about what's happening |
| 20:41.43 | Ashamed | meow |
| 20:41.56 | Helral | gives Arthas another experimental gadget. |
| 20:41.59 | Demonette | pushes the nice looking bloody red button on the downside of the weird weapon. |
| 20:42.08 | Helral | points out the button that needs to be pressed to Arthas. |
| 20:42.20 | Helral | watches the weapon Demonette holds starting to glow. |
| 20:42.30 | Arthas | pushes the button |
| 20:42.31 | Demonette | How long do i have to hold it pushed? |
| 20:42.35 | Arthas | *nothing happens* |
| 20:42.45 | Helral | watches arthas getting teleported in front of the weapon. |
| 20:42.51 | Demonette | XD |
| 20:42.55 | Helral | also sees the weapon blinding arthas. |
| 20:43.10 | Arthas | yells "DUCK AND COVER!" |
| 20:43.11 | Helral | hoped Demonette didn't look at the weapon ;p |
| 20:43.18 | Demonette | the weapon is crap =( |
| 20:43.21 | Arthas | hides below Demonettes skirt |
| 20:43.24 | Helral | runs back to Demonette. |
| 20:43.31 | Demonette | oO |
| 20:43.43 | Demonette | i think i have to kill someone <.< |
| 20:43.46 | Arthas | :D |
| 20:43.48 | Helral | picks up the toad that tries to hide below Demonette. |
| 20:43.58 | Arthas | is now a toad |
| 20:44.05 | Helral | takes a look at the toad and says: "Arthas?" |
| 20:44.08 | Arthas | bites Helral |
| 20:44.13 | Demonette | XD |
| 20:44.18 | Helral | takes that bite as a yes. |
| 20:44.19 | Demonette | He would be more nice as a toast |
| 20:44.38 | Arthas | prefers soup |
| 20:44.39 | Demonette | or as a brick |
| 20:44.52 | Helral | wonders who wants some toad-soup? |
| 20:45.05 | Demonette | brick soup!! |
| 20:46.18 | Arthas | is still alive |
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| 20:46.54 | Helral | didn't make any toad-soup yet. |
| 20:50.32 | Helral | meows |
| 20:53.36 | allenmelon | hey who are some good sc2 custom map commentators? |
| 20:55.39 | Arthas | points at Demonette |
| 20:55.49 | nicoli_s | i think husky has done some |
| 21:08.15 | A1win | I'm having issues with trying to remove a unit from a control group, it crashes the game :I |
| 21:10.38 | A1win | hmm |
| 21:10.49 | A1win | only if I try to loop it from 1 to 10 |
| 21:12.49 | A1win | apparently it allows me to enter 10 as a value and not 0, but the control group 0 is probably index 0 and not 10 so it crashes when I use 10 x.x |
| 21:12.59 | A1win | so... how do I remove a unit from control group 0 :I |
| 21:13.56 | Helral | A1win: hmmmm? |
| 21:14.19 | A1win | it doesn't let me remove a unit from control group 0 |
| 21:14.28 | A1win | it gives a trigger error saying the value must be between 1 and 10 |
| 21:14.33 | A1win | and if I use 10, the game crashes :x |
| 21:14.50 | A1win | removing from 1-9 works fine |
| 21:14.58 | Helral | *searches for something that handles control groups* |
| 21:15.48 | Demonette | Controlly control |
| 21:26.34 | Matt438 | A1win, crashes for me too |
| 21:26.43 | Vail | Hello |
| 21:26.45 | Matt438 | when doing anything to control group 10 |
| 21:26.49 | A1win | mm... |
| 21:26.51 | Matt438 | and 0 is not valid :( |
| 21:27.06 | Helral | hmmm |
| 21:27.07 | A1win | it's probably supposed to be 0 but they accidentally made it accept values from 1-10 instead of 0-9 |
| 21:27.12 | Vail | its astounding ... |
| 21:27.18 | Matt438 | Yeah, probably |
| 21:27.19 | Vail | time is fleeting... |
| 21:27.31 | Helral | meows |
| 21:27.48 | Vail | madness takes it toll. |
| 21:27.56 | A1win | maybe I should fill in the crash report and hope they care :x |
| 21:28.39 | Matt438 | or maybe a post on the battle.net forums, that's a pretty good place to get a blizz rep to see it |
| 21:28.50 | A1win | can't post on the US forums |
| 21:30.28 | Matt438 | o_O, just tried bypassing it by setting a variable to 0 |
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| 21:30.38 | Matt438 | It said only 0-9 are valid and that I had -1 |
| 21:30.45 | A1win | yeah |
| 21:31.04 | Helral | and what if you use custom script 0? |
| 21:31.19 | A1win | I don't know how o: |
| 21:31.31 | A1win | haven't looked at scripting at all |
| 21:31.36 | Matt438 | I just changed the variable to -1 and it said that -2 was invalid |
| 21:31.38 | Helral | where you set value, just click the custom script bullet, and type 0 |
| 21:31.59 | Matt438 | They are subtracting 1 so 10 should be valid |
| 21:32.55 | A1win | hmm |
| 21:33.59 | A1win | yeah if I set it to 0, it thinks it's -1 and says min: 0, max: 9 |
| 21:34.11 | A1win | but if I set it to 10, it crashes |
| 21:35.42 | A1win | so it seems like it's working as inteded to the point where it crashes with value of 10 ;p |
| 21:36.52 | Helral | hmmm |
| 21:37.37 | Dustin|Laptop | What function? |
| 21:37.44 | A1win | remove unit from control group |
| 21:38.06 | Helral | retrieving control group 10 fails if you ask me. ;p |
| 21:38.14 | Helral | add unit to control group 10 = crash as well. |
| 21:38.23 | A1win | mff |
| 21:38.55 | Dustin|Laptop | Oh for the CTRL+1-0 shit |
| 21:38.57 | A1win | mm |
| 21:39.09 | Dustin|Laptop | Well ya, im sure it's just single digit ints allowed |
| 21:39.14 | Dustin|Laptop | 1-0 |
| 21:39.33 | Helral | it went 1 through 9 on my screen then crashed ;p |
| 21:39.38 | A1win | I have an ability that lets you "release control" of an unit so that other players can claim it by selecting it, so it needs to be removed from your control groups as well or you can accidentally select it yourself... which is quite annoying |
| 21:40.25 | Halohalo | Does anyone know how to restore an ability's charge through editor? |
| 21:40.37 | Halohalo | through data editor* |
| 21:42.14 | Dustin|Laptop | Id help check it out A1win but Im gettin ready to head out from work |
| 21:42.16 | Vail | other that using the recharge time? |
| 21:42.17 | Helral | it's only value 10 (9) that throws an error. |
| 21:42.25 | Helral | well that crashes. |
| 21:42.34 | Dustin|Laptop | Whys it reading 10 as 9 |
| 21:42.35 | Helral | 11 (10) doesn't crash but throws error. |
| 21:42.52 | A1win | it's reading the given value as value-1 |
| 21:42.55 | Halohalo | I am trying to make a pick up item that recharge an ability |
| 21:43.01 | Dustin|Laptop | Is it doing that crap like WC3 Player Indexs where it starts at 0 array but offsets it with input numbers -1 |
| 21:43.03 | A1win | I suppose they use an array that starts from 0 for the control groups |
| 21:43.05 | Halohalo | say like a grenade |
| 21:43.15 | Helral | it adjusts the value for those who aren't programmers. |
| 21:43.18 | Vail | ah |
| 21:43.28 | Dustin|Laptop | Ya I figured |
| 21:44.20 | Vail | perhaps the modify unit effect? |
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| 21:45.09 | FockeWulf | sup Dustin |
| 21:45.13 | Dustin|Laptop | hi |
| 21:45.17 | Halohalo | yes |
| 21:45.20 | Halohalo | thx Vail |
| 21:45.36 | Halohalo | I swear I looked through that before lol |
| 21:45.52 | Vail | hm. |
| 21:46.23 | Halohalo | it is there now when i look at it again ;) |
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| 21:47.31 | Righteous | hi everyone, first time on this chat^^ |
| 21:47.35 | Dustin|Laptop | Heya |
| 21:48.55 | Dustin|Laptop | What's up |
| 21:49.24 | Righteous | i expected this forum more... lifely... |
| 21:49.52 | progammer | Righteous: to hell with real life, we're in virtual space here :P |
| 21:50.21 | Righteous | you know what i mean :D |
| 21:50.25 | Dustin|Laptop | It usually is :P |
| 21:50.28 | Kenetor | arggg!!! dont you hate when you find a solution to what was wrong and it was so simple but you just couldnt find it |
| 21:50.33 | Matt438 | also, is there an easier way to modify upgrade effects, the current method takes ages to load, especially when modifying engineering bay research data |
| 21:50.42 | Dustin|Laptop | Kenetor, welcome to the life of a programmer |
| 21:50.46 | FockeWulf | hey programmer? |
| 21:50.54 | Kenetor | i dont wanna be a programmer! |
| 21:51.03 | Kenetor | thats why i did 3d |
| 21:51.03 | Righteous | haha |
| 21:51.05 | progammer | no its PRO-GAMMER |
| 21:51.09 | Dustin|Laptop | Good call, we get to much pussy to handle. |
| 21:51.11 | FockeWulf | I've got a little issue with my camera rotation when doing 3p in game |
| 21:51.27 | FockeWulf | sory |
| 21:51.27 | progammer | FockeWulf: apply cam rotation is bugged |
| 21:51.29 | FockeWulf | progammer |
| 21:51.36 | progammer | just forget it |
| 21:51.40 | FockeWulf | nono im using mouse rotation |
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| 21:51.49 | Dustin|Laptop | Omfg |
| 21:51.50 | FockeWulf | i swapped it |
| 21:51.54 | Dustin|Laptop | You're name is Pro Gammer? |
| 21:52.07 | FockeWulf | it works great |
| 21:52.08 | Dustin|Laptop | I've been reading it Programmer since I saw that damn probe avatar |
| 21:52.18 | FockeWulf | but i get this issue where it freezes at random for a bit |
| 21:52.20 | Righteous | maybe its probegrammer ^^ |
| 21:52.26 | FockeWulf | then starts working again |
| 21:52.26 | Dustin|Laptop | lol |
| 21:52.58 | FockeWulf | ive got my graphics turned down really low and the reduce mouse latency on as well |
| 21:53.05 | FockeWulf | and yet it still freezes periodically |
| 21:53.18 | FockeWulf | any ideas? |
| 21:53.46 | Righteous | nope |
| 21:53.52 | Righteous | buy a new comp? |
| 21:53.58 | FockeWulf | this one is brand new |
| 21:54.05 | Righteous | buy better internet? |
| 21:54.15 | FockeWulf | im testing it single player |
| 21:54.27 | FockeWulf | besides i got plenty |
| 21:54.36 | Vail | bribe blizz into fixing it? |
| 21:54.42 | Righteous | maybe your framerate is also on low? try everything on ultra |
| 21:55.05 | FockeWulf | for lack of better ideas im gonna entertain that idea |
| 21:55.13 | Righteous | :p |
| 21:55.32 | FockeWulf | course considering how muc shit (artwork*) is on the map it could be the issue |
| 21:56.07 | Dustin|Laptop | You have to consider the fact that you're viewing assest at an angle and more on the screen then the engine was designed for |
| 21:56.26 | Dustin|Laptop | So there's gonna be lag if you dont set your camera farclip right |
| 21:57.06 | Dustin|Laptop | Anyway, time to go home! |
| 21:57.31 | FockeWulf | lol |
| 21:57.44 | FockeWulf | ya frame rate is one issue |
| 21:57.54 | FockeWulf | course this thing updates every .03 seconds as well |
| 21:59.17 | progammer | why not 0.0625 |
| 22:00.20 | FockeWulf | my TI-89 told me that .02 seconds was 48 fps |
| 22:00.30 | FockeWulf | i set it to .03 to double check it |
| 22:00.37 | FockeWulf | right now ima test it out at .09 |
| 22:03.12 | Righteous | well cya guys |
| 22:05.49 | Kenetor | hey guys how do i stop a weapon going through a shield when its up |
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| 22:31.28 | Mephs | need a US person to help test somethin rq |
| 22:31.30 | Mephs | 1 min |
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| 22:34.24 | ShadowTaisho | O_O testing stuff |
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| 22:48.44 | RodOfNOD | anyone on that has done a real MOD in sc2? |
| 22:54.21 | RodOfNOD | noones alive? |
| 22:58.44 | Sixen | noone :( |
| 22:58.46 | Sixen | what's up |
| 23:02.11 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:02.17 | RodOfNOD | nothing just was hoping for an answer :P |
| 23:02.33 | RodOfNOD | i just read mephs reply to blizzards remarks that is hilarious |
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| 23:12.35 | FockeWulf | ? |
| 23:12.36 | FockeWulf | lol |
| 23:12.53 | Sixen | heh |
| 23:13.29 | FockeWulf | what would be the best way to make a projectile system that can handle the most projectiles in an fps/aos enviroment? |
| 23:14.15 | FockeWulf | us person? |
| 23:14.25 | FockeWulf | mephs im game |
| 23:16.36 | A1win | FockeWulf, instant travel time? ;p |
| 23:25.14 | Jygga | do you think it would be possible to rebuild UFO: enemy unknown or XCOM fights as a map? |
| 23:25.44 | Jygga | multistory buildings wont be that easy i guess? ^^ |
| 23:28.32 | FockeWulf | vertually impossible |
| 23:28.34 | FockeWulf | like |
| 23:28.49 | FockeWulf | you would literrally have to make it so on one plane you are flying |
| 23:29.17 | FockeWulf | and the other you are in the ground plane |
| 23:29.23 | FockeWulf | and as far as 1p/3p goes |
| 23:29.28 | FockeWulf | i have given up on using cliffs |
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| 23:43.29 | Mephs | there a way to make a behavior show how many stacks its up to? |
| 23:49.08 | FockeWulf | charge count? |
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| 23:49.43 | Mephs | no i mean in DE |
| 23:49.47 | Mephs | on like the tooltip even |
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