| 00:07.55 | Mephs | fuck yea! reeses's |
| 00:12.27 | Kenetor | say wha? |
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| 00:29.55 | progammer | where in the actor field do i specify attachment place, like Head, Center, Origin ? |
| 00:30.21 | Zara | impact? |
| 00:30.32 | Zara | or launch? |
| 00:30.44 | progammer | no its just a periodic behavior actor |
| 00:30.51 | progammer | on when behavior on, off when it off |
| 00:31.02 | Zara | yuou mean in the event? |
| 00:31.14 | progammer | might be |
| 00:31.20 | Zara | anyway... attachment fields |
| 00:31.24 | progammer | is that the create event ? |
| 00:31.27 | Zara | are named "query" |
| 00:31.34 | Zara | all what contains the word query |
| 00:31.58 | Zara | Launch Attach Query (point the things hit) |
| 00:32.09 | Zara | ahem... start |
| 00:32.16 | Zara | Impact Attach Query (where it hits) |
| 00:32.27 | Zara | you can select Direct method |
| 00:32.32 | Zara | and specify the attach name |
| 00:33.08 | progammer | where again ? |
| 00:33.17 | progammer | is it in the create events ? |
| 00:33.23 | progammer | its not a projectile, just model addition |
| 00:33.41 | Zara | mhhhhh |
| 00:33.43 | Zara | let me look |
| 00:33.48 | Zara | please |
| 00:34.09 | progammer | something to do with host |
| 00:34.29 | Zara | WhichLocation+? |
| 00:34.37 | Zara | it's the point where effect takes place |
| 00:34.51 | progammer | where ? |
| 00:34.51 | Zara | can be TargetPoint |
| 00:34.55 | Zara | in the effect |
| 00:35.00 | Zara | TargetUnit |
| 00:35.04 | Zara | LauncherUnit etc... |
| 00:35.04 | progammer | i have no effect |
| 00:35.11 | progammer | its just an actor for behavior |
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| 00:35.23 | progammer | that attach when behavior is on |
| 00:35.28 | Zara | mhhhhhhh |
| 00:35.30 | Zara | ah ok ok |
| 00:35.32 | Zara | i understand |
| 00:35.35 | Zara | mhhhh |
| 00:35.45 | Zara | what king of actor is it? |
| 00:35.47 | Zara | kind |
| 00:35.53 | Zara | sorry I'm drunk hahah |
| 00:36.00 | progammer | just model |
| 00:36.06 | progammer | Cmodel |
| 00:36.34 | Zara | HostSiteOps |
| 00:37.11 | progammer | then what do i choose ? |
| 00:37.17 | progammer | for example i want center |
| 00:37.21 | Zara | SOp |
| 00:37.25 | Zara | AttachCenter |
| 00:37.41 | progammer | ok |
| 00:37.46 | Zara | SOpAttachCenter |
| 00:37.49 | Zara | that's all |
| 00:37.51 | Zara | and then in |
| 00:38.00 | Zara | in Host+ |
| 00:38.07 | Zara | u select Alias -> _Unit |
| 00:38.17 | Zara | if it needs to be created on a uni |
| 00:38.18 | Zara | t |
| 00:38.50 | progammer | got it thanks |
| 00:38.52 | progammer | worked now |
| 00:39.05 | Zara | sorry |
| 00:39.11 | Zara | are you good with validators? |
| 00:39.19 | progammer | maybe |
| 00:39.36 | Zara | i have a range actor |
| 00:39.41 | Zara | with an event |
| 00:39.52 | Zara | SelectionLocalUpdate -> Create |
| 00:39.53 | Zara | right? |
| 00:40.05 | progammer | is that normally for range actor ? |
| 00:40.11 | Zara | can be |
| 00:40.15 | Zara | yes it works fine |
| 00:40.23 | Zara | tanks and turrets uses this way |
| 00:40.59 | Zara | I need to check this: SelectionLocalUpdate -> IF the unit is owned by player or ally -> Create |
| 00:41.06 | Zara | so the range is shown only to allied players |
| 00:41.34 | Zara | I think I need a ValidateUnit event... but I don't know how to check the unit owner through validator |
| 00:42.02 | Zara | I tried unitfilter -> not working |
| 00:42.17 | Zara | I tried ValidatePlayer PlayerType but there is no Ally/Enemy type |
| 00:42.32 | progammer | hm |
| 00:42.36 | progammer | what's the local means anyway |
| 00:42.45 | Zara | Local is |
| 00:42.55 | Zara | when the player select/deselect the unit |
| 00:42.58 | Zara | then show the range |
| 00:43.11 | progammer | what's the different with synch |
| 00:43.13 | Zara | when a local selection update occurs in fact |
| 00:43.25 | Zara | dunno |
| 00:43.39 | Zara | i found in most cases events uses SelectionLocal |
| 00:43.56 | progammer | try Validate Player |
| 00:44.02 | progammer | and make your own validator |
| 00:44.09 | progammer | for ally/player |
| 00:44.24 | Zara | mhhhhh |
| 00:44.40 | Zara | what kind of validator should i use? |
| 00:45.24 | progammer | maybe player alliance |
| 00:45.57 | progammer | or unit filter with self and ally |
| 00:46.02 | progammer | just mess around with it |
| 00:46.03 | Zara | self? |
| 00:46.08 | Zara | does it self exists? |
| 00:46.18 | Zara | i never understood what Target/Source/Origin means |
| 00:46.21 | progammer | sr player |
| 00:46.36 | Zara | I ned to use Origin? |
| 00:46.46 | Zara | or target? |
| 00:46.47 | progammer | just keep it default |
| 00:46.53 | progammer | i dont know so you have to mess around |
| 00:46.53 | Zara | ok |
| 00:47.00 | Zara | this sucks |
| 00:47.04 | progammer | if player alliance dont work, try unit filter |
| 00:47.04 | Zara | i want a editor wiki |
| 00:47.19 | Zara | most of fields |
| 00:47.23 | Zara | need to be guessed |
| 00:47.36 | Zara | FUCK blizzard, they can fill up my ass |
| 00:52.48 | Zara | 300 marines in the screen during a ladder game = crash |
| 00:54.01 | progammer | now that my model doesnt go away when the unit die ? |
| 00:54.09 | Zara | actororphan |
| 00:54.12 | Zara | ->destroy |
| 00:54.15 | progammer | ok |
| 00:54.24 | Zara | behavior.off -> destroy |
| 00:54.24 | progammer | i only get behavior off-> destroy |
| 00:54.35 | progammer | guess it doesnt count unit dead as off |
| 00:54.40 | Zara | no |
| 00:54.47 | Zara | if fact units never die |
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| 00:54.54 | Zara | they are just hidden by the engine |
| 00:55.22 | progammer | i think they are removed after their death animation end |
| 00:55.30 | Zara | hidden |
| 00:55.36 | Zara | that's why u can revive them |
| 00:55.46 | Zara | they are internalized away from the map |
| 00:55.56 | progammer | does that cause memory leak, not every unit has to be hidden |
| 00:56.14 | Zara | they remove major actors |
| 00:56.20 | Zara | and keep a little bit of memory |
| 01:03.25 | Mephs | how do you get 300 marines in a ladder game |
| 01:03.32 | Zara | 4 terrans |
| 01:03.38 | Zara | marine cheese |
| 01:03.40 | Zara | -.- |
| 01:03.44 | Mephs | 50 banelings > 300 marines XD |
| 01:04.01 | Mephs | get infestors & banelings and marines are a joke |
| 01:04.05 | kaseano | any1 know how to make a validation based on a unit ability, like the requirement |
| 01:04.20 | kaseano | OR a validation that looks for a unit requirement |
| 01:06.55 | progammer | how do i easily add and change an unit's death animation ? |
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| 01:07.38 | Zara | it's a model |
| 01:07.41 | Zara | ah |
| 01:07.44 | Zara | damage -> death type |
| 01:07.59 | Zara | silent |
| 01:08.03 | Zara | disintegration |
| 01:08.04 | Zara | burn... |
| 01:08.45 | Zara | or maybe |
| 01:08.49 | Zara | weapon death type... |
| 01:08.53 | Zara | don't remember |
| 01:09.51 | progammer | i cant make it to work |
| 01:10.01 | progammer | put under normal |
| 01:11.17 | Zara | what |
| 01:11.22 | Zara | graphic detail u have? |
| 01:12.13 | progammer | everything low but i put model to high |
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| 01:12.24 | progammer | i get all the high death model |
| 01:13.08 | progammer | nevermind just got it to work |
| 01:13.20 | progammer | scaled crazily :( |
| 01:14.10 | progammer | weird the death model is scaled by model scale :(, not actor scale |
| 01:14.15 | Zara | O_o |
| 01:14.47 | progammer | for example take a building and change actor scale to 2- > death model will be 4x |
| 01:14.57 | progammer | change model scale to 2 -> death model will be 2x |
| 01:17.55 | Zara | really? |
| 01:18.07 | progammer | try with any building |
| 01:18.16 | Zara | never going for me |
| 01:18.16 | progammer | its like the actor apply the scale twice |
| 01:18.25 | progammer | so the death model instead get 4x |
| 01:18.27 | Zara | just take the death model |
| 01:18.29 | Zara | and dupe it |
| 01:18.31 | Zara | with same scale |
| 01:24.29 | Mephs | on the actor event |
| 01:24.34 | Mephs | unit dies |
| 01:24.37 | Mephs | set scale 1.0 |
| 01:24.41 | Mephs | problem solved |
| 01:25.17 | Mephs | no need for duplicate actor |
| 01:25.58 | progammer | do you know where is the death model when a protoss relic get captured in campaign ? |
| 01:26.06 | Mephs | idk |
| 01:26.14 | progammer | cant find it in its death effect |
| 01:26.25 | Mephs | search "death" in models i guess |
| 01:26.31 | Mephs | i got that shit figured out last night btw |
| 01:26.46 | Mephs | i just made a traceline function that checks pathing cost at each interval on the charge line |
| 01:26.55 | Mephs | it still fucks up randomly but i guess its ok |
| 01:27.09 | progammer | cant even find the mode |
| 01:27.16 | progammer | it show a sphere wtf ? |
| 01:27.21 | Mephs | :S |
| 01:27.22 | progammer | even when i can put it on the map |
| 01:28.21 | progammer | it have multiple variation |
| 01:28.38 | progammer | i cant use the death model seperately :( |
| 01:28.51 | Mephs | you can set the model variation |
| 01:28.52 | Mephs | with swap model |
| 01:29.07 | progammer | but still there is no death model |
| 01:29.13 | progammer | or i have to swap and play death animation ? |
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| 01:30.23 | Triceron | Ahoy |
| 01:31.07 | progammer | what's the actor event for when the unit die ? |
| 01:32.04 | Mephs | Unit Dies |
| 01:32.08 | Mephs | er |
| 01:32.11 | Mephs | Unit Death |
| 01:32.20 | Mephs | and yeah you swap and play death animation |
| 01:32.42 | progammer | by swap "and" play, does order matters in the events ? |
| 01:32.51 | Mephs | yeah |
| 01:32.56 | Mephs | swap needs to come higher in the list |
| 01:33.03 | Mephs | thats all |
| 01:34.49 | allenmelon | lot of ppl are saying the ghost is now op in sotis |
| 01:34.56 | allenmelon | ekcolnovkol: |
| 01:35.08 | progammer | i dont even know there's a ghost in sotis |
| 01:35.22 | allenmelon | lol |
| 01:35.34 | progammer | Mephs: it doesnt show up, the model disappear when unit dies since no death model is used |
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| 01:35.55 | Mephs | are you using the right model? |
| 01:36.10 | progammer | protoss relic variation 1, death animation |
| 01:36.51 | Mephs | and its on Unit Death event? |
| 01:36.54 | progammer | i hate this stuff, maybe i'll go back to trigger and recreate everything |
| 01:36.57 | progammer | yep |
| 01:36.57 | Mephs | screenshot the event list lol |
| 01:37.56 | progammer | even in theory i dont think it work |
| 01:38.31 | Mephs | it does |
| 01:38.37 | Mephs | i used it several times in l4d |
| 01:39.22 | Zara | programmer that fucking validator is not working -.- |
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| 01:39.53 | Mephs | think i'll give every unit a reactive defend/dodge abil |
| 01:40.02 | progammer | Mephs: nevermind figured it out |
| 01:40.05 | Mephs | kk |
| 01:40.10 | Zara | mephs |
| 01:40.14 | progammer | just take the damn model with death animation |
| 01:40.21 | Zara | do you know how to validate a unit owner? |
| 01:40.31 | Zara | i need it to be ally or player |
| 01:40.42 | Mephs | um |
| 01:40.44 | progammer | no idea, try unit filter yet ? |
| 01:40.45 | Mephs | lemme see |
| 01:40.54 | Zara | i tried prog |
| 01:41.00 | Mephs | you mean the player owner? |
| 01:41.02 | Zara | I used ValidateUnit UnitFilter |
| 01:41.05 | Zara | yes |
| 01:41.08 | Zara | in actor events |
| 01:41.24 | Zara | I need to check if owner is allied or player before creating it |
| 01:41.29 | progammer | Mephs: where do you set the scale of death model ? |
| 01:41.31 | Mephs | use unit filter |
| 01:41.35 | Mephs | validator |
| 01:41.45 | Zara | it's a range actor... so I need it to be only visible by allys and player |
| 01:41.50 | Mephs | oh |
| 01:41.53 | Mephs | you dont need a validator for that |
| 01:41.57 | Zara | really?! |
| 01:41.59 | Mephs | on the range actor |
| 01:42.03 | Mephs | under filter |
| 01:42.07 | Mephs | check the ones you want to HIDE it from |
| 01:42.12 | Zara | oh my god thank you :D |
| 01:42.13 | Mephs | so check Enemy, Neutral |
| 01:42.19 | Mephs | leave self/ally uncheck |
| 01:42.20 | Zara | programmer: dupe the model and set the scale on the model entity |
| 01:42.37 | PointBlank | anyone know how the display effects for damage are added onto the jackson's revenge? the unit has 4 weapons which activate vs A/G and melee/range but these are hidden and then an additional 2 effects show the damage of the unit ?? |
| 01:42.45 | Zara | programmer: min scale max scale |
| 01:42.48 | Zara | equals |
| 01:43.20 | Zara | point: every weapon has it's own damage effect |
| 01:43.29 | Zara | point: and every one shows a different value |
| 01:43.49 | Zara | Weapon -> Effect Notify Damage |
| 01:43.53 | PointBlank | yup and if i remove all weapons from jackson's revenge, these 2 damage effects still show up? |
| 01:44.01 | Zara | which ones? |
| 01:44.13 | PointBlank | it's standard ATA ATG lasers |
| 01:44.25 | Zara | you maybe did'nt remove weapon properly |
| 01:44.33 | Zara | look at the function explain link |
| 01:44.38 | Zara | on effects and weapons |
| 01:44.41 | Zara | under the unit |
| 01:44.55 | Zara | and you will see why they are still linked |
| 01:45.00 | PointBlank | that's what i'm asking, the effects aren't even under the unit |
| 01:45.09 | PointBlank | :S |
| 01:45.11 | Zara | ok maybe I know |
| 01:45.15 | Zara | lemme look one thing |
| 01:46.07 | Zara | did u duped it PROPERLY |
| 01:46.15 | Zara | or you edited the original one? |
| 01:46.17 | PointBlank | not duping |
| 01:46.19 | PointBlank | editing |
| 01:46.21 | Zara | mhhh |
| 01:46.24 | Zara | not good |
| 01:46.28 | Zara | dupe it |
| 01:46.36 | Zara | sometimes direct editing mess things up |
| 01:46.53 | Zara | or try |
| 01:47.00 | PointBlank | lol it's all been going pretty decently so far, this one just has some hidden reference somewhere i don't see |
| 01:47.03 | Zara | to save/quit/reload |
| 01:47.08 | PointBlank | ah k |
| 01:47.11 | PointBlank | that might work |
| 01:47.14 | Zara | before |
| 01:47.14 | PointBlank | cuz it might have removed the fake |
| 01:47.17 | PointBlank | when i removed the real |
| 01:47.37 | Zara | also |
| 01:47.41 | Zara | unlink attack actors |
| 01:47.46 | Zara | that's maybe why |
| 01:47.58 | Zara | and that's why I recommend you to dupe the unit |
| 01:47.59 | PointBlank | i can see the weapon under the weapons tab DRBattlecruiserFakeA but i figured u have to add the weapon to the unit before it actually shows up |
| 01:48.17 | Zara | yeah |
| 01:48.19 | Zara | or you can hide |
| 01:48.22 | Zara | the weapon |
| 01:48.23 | Zara | also |
| 01:48.31 | PointBlank | lol i'm using every unit in the game i'm not duping anything that's way too much work |
| 01:48.53 | PointBlank | i really appreciate the help tho zara thanks :) |
| 01:49.12 | PointBlank | and yeah my resolve will be if i can't get it to disappear to just set dmg to 0 and hide |
| 01:49.55 | PointBlank | do any of u remember recent blue posts regarding catalogs & command cards? |
| 01:50.00 | Zara | Weapon Options -> Invisible |
| 01:50.29 | PointBlank | i recall something being mentioned about how they may add it or are or ? |
| 01:50.39 | Zara | add commands through catalog? |
| 01:50.44 | Zara | doable |
| 01:50.55 | PointBlank | yeah currently u cannot modify the command card with catalog afaik? |
| 01:51.00 | Zara | I should check it up |
| 01:51.27 | PointBlank | the main one that annoys me is KillXP why the hell can't u set that lol silly blizz |
| 01:51.40 | Zara | killxp? |
| 01:51.42 | Zara | that? |
| 01:51.47 | Zara | what? |
| 01:51.50 | PointBlank | yeah the ID KillXP on unit |
| 01:51.54 | PointBlank | u cannot set it with catalog |
| 01:52.02 | Zara | nah |
| 01:53.06 | Zara | because killxp |
| 01:53.24 | Zara | are put on an internal int array when the map initializes |
| 01:53.34 | Zara | they are no more read from fields |
| 01:54.13 | kaseano | if a non-hero unit kills something, it won't share xp with the heroes? |
| 01:54.29 | kaseano | well non-hero-leveling-behavior-unit |
| 01:54.32 | Zara | try this with a test map |
| 01:54.51 | Zara | at least just look at KillsToCaster effect |
| 01:54.59 | Zara | and do the same with your non-hero units |
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| 01:56.16 | Zara | is there someone that can help me with a model edit? |
| 01:56.21 | Zara | really simple model edit, of course |
| 01:56.44 | kaseano | I wish I could edit models :) |
| 01:56.57 | kaseano | I hear 3ds has a 3 month learning curve just to start using it |
| 01:57.20 | Zara | :S |
| 01:57.22 | PointBlank | yeah sadly i've always been too lazy to do modelling |
| 01:57.28 | PointBlank | same goes for any "art" in general |
| 01:57.32 | Mephs | 3ds is pretty complicated looking |
| 01:57.40 | Mephs | you can probably learn the same basics in blender for free |
| 01:58.38 | Zara | yes but |
| 01:58.58 | Zara | basis are not granting a good result |
| 01:59.04 | Zara | and I can't wait 4 months |
| 01:59.12 | Zara | to add an attach point to a model |
| 01:59.15 | kaseano | lol |
| 01:59.53 | PointBlank | talk to Skizot, i think it was, that's doing model imports right now |
| 02:00.16 | PointBlank | or the dude that does the model tutorials linked on mapsters main page |
| 02:00.34 | Zara | modelers are not famous |
| 02:00.38 | Zara | for solidarity |
| 02:01.45 | Triceron | Ya, we're pretty elitist |
| 02:01.57 | Mephs | kinda like us data editor pricks |
| 02:01.57 | kaseano | there r about 8 million modders on hiveworkshop.com, u could ask 1 of them |
| 02:02.17 | Zara | hey mephs |
| 02:02.20 | Mephs | hey zara |
| 02:02.26 | Zara | I'm just helping everyone |
| 02:02.44 | Mephs | ok? |
| 02:02.49 | Zara | tsk |
| 02:02.55 | Zara | I'm just waiting for a modeler to ask my help with data editing to return him a big "FUCK YOU HARD" |
| 02:03.01 | Mephs | lol |
| 02:03.05 | Mephs | i tried to figure out attachment points to |
| 02:03.06 | Mephs | too |
| 02:03.11 | Mephs | then i just gave up and used a site op |
| 02:03.32 | Zara | mhhh |
| 02:03.39 | Zara | siteops sometimes are not a good solution |
| 02:03.48 | Zara | localoffset with X and Y, for a rotating thing |
| 02:03.53 | Zara | will just fuck it up |
| 02:04.38 | Zara | you cannot create custom rotation axis |
| 02:04.45 | Zara | that's the problem |
| 02:05.01 | Mephs | meh the only model i needed an attachment on was zeratul |
| 02:05.04 | Mephs | (who, by the way, has ZERO) |
| 02:05.15 | PointBlank | lol i spent so many damn hours trying to get siteops going sometimes this editor really annoys me |
| 02:06.12 | Mephs | yea that goes for learning anything in the editor |
| 02:06.14 | Mephs | once you figure it out though |
| 02:06.19 | Mephs | the rest of it makes sense |
| 02:06.42 | PointBlank | so data editor elites: if you were to make a missle launch from somewhere on a civilian then after a period of time return would u use the "return" thing on missle or would u use 2 effects and on expire fire the returning missle |
| 02:06.51 | Zara | are you a modelist? |
| 02:07.03 | Triceron | Modeller |
| 02:07.07 | Zara | modeller |
| 02:07.14 | Mephs | are you a modellator? |
| 02:07.19 | Zara | moderator |
| 02:07.57 | PointBlank | cuz i could not for the life of me get the launch position of the missle to start somewhere unless i used an actor which would no longer let me return the missle siiiigh |
| 02:08.13 | PointBlank | and i'm a trigginator |
| 02:08.20 | Zara | let me see |
| 02:08.21 | Triceron | Trigger man |
| 02:08.22 | Zara | moment plz |
| 02:10.07 | PointBlank | it doesn't make sense to me why u can't specify launch position on the launch missile actor |
| 02:10.12 | Mephs | "trigger noob" |
| 02:10.59 | PointBlank | ... the main reason data annoys me lol, from a design perspective i cannot make sense of lots of why they did things (don't get me wrong, some of it is perfectly clear) |
| 02:11.29 | Mephs | when you think about it |
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| 02:11.38 | Mephs | the data editor takes a lot of work out of it |
| 02:11.44 | Mephs | it would take me 5x as long to do most of this stuff in triggers |
| 02:12.17 | Zara | triggers suck |
| 02:12.23 | Zara | triggers = n00b job |
| 02:12.39 | PointBlank | i'm disappointed with some of the trigger stuff, the best thing is catalog lol |
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| 02:12.56 | PointBlank | and no the main reason i like triggers is i like abstraction |
| 02:13.09 | Mephs | yeah who doesn't |
| 02:13.11 | PointBlank | nowhere else can i be like "do this to this list of things" |
| 02:13.14 | Nagnazul | hi |
| 02:13.20 | Mephs | data editor isn't that unorganized, if you organize it right |
| 02:13.20 | Nagnazul | anyone wanna help me playtest my map? |
| 02:13.21 | Zara | I can do triggers without using interface right now |
| 02:13.35 | Zara | nagnazul are you a modeller? |
| 02:13.37 | Mephs | again it just makes the whole tediousness of making abilities work less annoying |
| 02:13.42 | Mephs | and you can't make impressive abilities in the trigger editor alone |
| 02:13.48 | Mephs | you need to have good use of actors |
| 02:13.56 | PointBlank | nagnazul what's ur map? |
| 02:14.07 | Nagnazul | my map is called Stranded on Krydon |
| 02:14.16 | Nagnazul | and I'm a game designer :) |
| 02:14.33 | Nagnazul | not much of a modeler, though I did have to do some 3d modeling for one of my games in the past |
| 02:14.35 | Mephs | is there a way to freeze turning on a unit? |
| 02:14.49 | Nagnazul | contact me in game on the NA servers, name nagnazul, code 679 |
| 02:15.20 | PointBlank | what do u do in the map tho :P |
| 02:15.58 | Mephs | oh fuck this is tight |
| 02:16.04 | Mephs | this game is going to blow bnet to pieces |
| 02:16.05 | Triceron | what attchments did you need added? |
| 02:17.11 | PointBlank | Mephs, my current ability is a hybrid: launch missile and stuff all data, then after landing the trigger kicks in and does a probability check and stores the unit that was launched at -> dunno how i'd store the unit solely with data |
| 02:17.27 | Zara | mhhhhhhh |
| 02:17.37 | Zara | I recommend you |
| 02:17.42 | Zara | to use triggers |
| 02:17.48 | Zara | there is no data way to store data |
| 02:17.58 | Zara | and you should use it at ability use instead of impact |
| 02:18.27 | Zara | Unit uses ability |
| 02:18.30 | Mephs | yeah |
| 02:18.35 | Mephs | i use a lot of hybrid abilities like that too |
| 02:18.36 | Zara | if random something -> store |
| 02:18.37 | Triceron | Zara - what attchments did you need added? |
| 02:18.43 | Mephs | mainly cuz i use a wierd aiming system with real LOS |
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| 02:18.50 | Nagnazul | so anyone wanna playtest my map with me? |
| 02:18.56 | Nagnazul | it's a 4player coop survival map |
| 02:19.06 | Mephs | this last ability i made |
| 02:19.08 | Mephs | took 33 effects |
| 02:19.09 | Mephs | and 1 trigger |
| 02:19.10 | Zara | triceron I was looking for an attachment point in a war pig, to throw grenades |
| 02:19.19 | Mephs | if i were to do it all in trigger it would've taken me days |
| 02:19.22 | Zara | but I'm thinking that it would also require an anim |
| 02:19.27 | PointBlank | sorry i use unit uses ability, wait for behaviour on target :) |
| 02:19.31 | Zara | because war pig Spell = Stand |
| 02:19.48 | WARCRIME | How the fuck do you stop the Railgun Snipe ability from Referencing Raynorcommando |
| 02:19.54 | WARCRIME | I want it to reference the creator |
| 02:19.57 | WARCRIME | of the ability |
| 02:20.00 | Mephs | lol |
| 02:20.01 | Zara | O_o |
| 02:20.07 | WARCRIME | Mephs ur good at this |
| 02:20.08 | Mephs | me and PM spent like an hour trying to figure that out |
| 02:20.13 | Skizot | what? |
| 02:20.14 | Mephs | so far no solution |
| 02:20.19 | Triceron | does he actually have a grenade throw animation? |
| 02:20.19 | WARCRIME | You done it in ur map |
| 02:20.22 | Mephs | yeah but |
| 02:20.24 | Mephs | i had to make 5 copies |
| 02:20.27 | Mephs | of ALL of the actors |
| 02:20.29 | Triceron | I seen the Spectre has a grenade throw |
| 02:20.30 | Mephs | for each of the heroes |
| 02:20.34 | Zara | Triceron can you check a thing for me? The sentry guardian shield bubble... is that model coloured? |
| 02:20.37 | Mephs | and if you have duplicates of any of those heroes on the map it breaks |
| 02:20.43 | WARCRIME | So how to reference one unit |
| 02:20.43 | WARCRIME | then |
| 02:20.49 | Mephs | you change the refset on the actor of the unit |
| 02:20.53 | Mephs | to ::global.whatever |
| 02:20.55 | Mephs | as its global ID |
| 02:20.56 | Zara | Triceron... no, no toss animation =( |
| 02:20.59 | Triceron | the bubble should have a texture if that's what you're asking |
| 02:21.00 | WARCRIME | I have it for a marine |
| 02:21.02 | Mephs | then you change the references in RailgunSnipeModel |
| 02:21.07 | Mephs | to that ID |
| 02:21.07 | WARCRIME | ::global.marine |
| 02:21.11 | Nagnazul | so...anyone wanna try out my map? |
| 02:21.24 | Mephs | there's a few things you gotta do |
| 02:21.30 | Zara | Triceron: mhhh... i tried to recolour it... but it still looks blue somehow... that's why I was asking it. |
| 02:21.35 | PointBlank | Zara if you were looking into my launch thing, i'm launching from a civilian whoe has a throw animation already, just couldn't figure out how to make it launch like tychus grenade (attacked to hand) but then also return to hand like a tenticle (my new theory is that i have to use effect expire and launch a second missle, can't just use "return") |
| 02:21.38 | Zara | Seems like model sphere is coloured. |
| 02:21.38 | Mephs | i remember seeing a thread where someone posted a step-by-step how to make it work for a unit |
| 02:22.19 | Zara | Point = open civilian model previewer and look at attach point name on the hand |
| 02:22.20 | Mephs | WARCRIME: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/6738-bug-with-raynor-penetrator-round/?post=17 |
| 02:22.27 | Mephs | follow those instructions exactly |
| 02:22.30 | Mephs | and it should work for you |
| 02:22.38 | Zara | Point: then... Launch Attach Query + -> that attach point |
| 02:23.04 | Triceron | so you need an attachment point at the warpig's hand? |
| 02:23.19 | PointBlank | Zara: if i do that and use an actor that has Launch Attach Query the return no longer works, it just leaves the target floats around for a sec and lands back at the target :( |
| 02:23.28 | Zara | Triceron: yes, but also the throw animation if not present :S |
| 02:23.46 | Zara | Point: did u set impact also? |
| 02:23.59 | Nagnazul | playtesting anyone? |
| 02:24.18 | PointBlank | impact effect? |
| 02:24.22 | Zara | Point: just dupe tychus toss and modify attack actor for your needs |
| 02:24.31 | PointBlank | yeah i did, that was the problem :P |
| 02:24.46 | PointBlank | seems to break the return setting |
| 02:24.49 | Zara | Point: so the granade pops up but floats? |
| 02:25.00 | PointBlank | but looking around at other things and nothing else uses the return option |
| 02:25.14 | PointBlank | so i'm thinking blizz decided to stop using it? |
| 02:25.23 | PointBlank | so the grenade lands at target for duration |
| 02:25.29 | PointBlank | then on return it pops up for target |
| 02:25.34 | PointBlank | spins around and lands again |
| 02:25.49 | PointBlank | like it still wants to seek to that target even tho it should be returning |
| 02:25.56 | Zara | Point: HAHAHAH how the fuck did you come with that?! |
| 02:26.18 | Zara | Hint of the day: if an ability fucks up, start from scratch |
| 02:26.23 | PointBlank | haha |
| 02:26.31 | PointBlank | i have several times |
| 02:26.37 | PointBlank | that's my sad part ;( |
| 02:26.43 | Mephs | should've seen my perverted tentacle |
| 02:26.46 | PointBlank | so i gave up and decided i'd try again later |
| 02:26.48 | Mephs | when i was making the smoker |
| 02:26.56 | PointBlank | but u were talkative so i figured i'd see if u had insight |
| 02:27.00 | Mephs | it would attach to someone and then hump them |
| 02:27.31 | PointBlank | cuz it works fine, just launches from chest and returns to feet since i have no actor caring about the launch missile effect |
| 02:27.50 | Zara | Launches from chest => change attach point looking at the model |
| 02:28.44 | Zara | you can also... dupe the molotov civilian and change the model from bottle to grenade |
| 02:28.50 | Zara | maybe it's the easier way |
| 02:29.00 | PointBlank | first thing i did |
| 02:29.08 | PointBlank | but bottle doesn't return remember :P |
| 02:30.39 | Zara | double check beam and missile fields |
| 02:31.08 | PointBlank | beam is non-existant, missle is my special returning missle |
| 02:31.24 | Zara | mhhhhhhhhhh |
| 02:31.38 | PointBlank | you mentioned "change attach point looking at the model" which thing is attach point on? actor model - what field? |
| 02:31.48 | Nagnazul | anyone have a few minutes? |
| 02:32.11 | Zara | why u don't |
| 02:32.19 | Zara | create a missile launch actor |
| 02:32.31 | Zara | and fire it after impact of attack actor? |
| 02:33.54 | PointBlank | u mean instead of using return, just make it fire another missile after impact? |
| 02:34.51 | Zara | yes |
| 02:34.55 | Zara | from target |
| 02:34.57 | Zara | to caster |
| 02:35.57 | Zara | Effect.LaunchMissile.Stop -> At Target -> Create |
| 02:36.10 | PointBlank | yup that was the next thing i was going to try :) |
| 02:36.24 | Zara | Launch = Target Center Impact = Caster Weapon |
| 02:37.53 | Zara | boomerang weapon is a nice thing |
| 02:38.22 | Zara | I made something like predator blades with a boomerang effect |
| 02:38.33 | Zara | well... I WISH they were predator blades |
| 02:38.57 | Zara | but without a FUCKING modeller... |
| 02:42.18 | kaseano | hi mayb some1 can help me with this |
| 02:42.24 | Zara | depends |
| 02:42.28 | Zara | if you are a modeller or not |
| 02:42.34 | kaseano | lol |
| 02:42.44 | kaseano | i can b if u in 3 months if u know the answer :) |
| 02:43.00 | kaseano | b in 3* |
| 02:43.03 | Zara | so wut? |
| 02:43.23 | kaseano | I put all 3 effects for the ability (level 1, level 2, etc) onto a set for the ability |
| 02:43.32 | kaseano | then i was gonna control which effects fired with a validation |
| 02:43.35 | Zara | I'm getting fun debugging sc2.exe... a lot of things to discover. |
| 02:43.45 | kaseano | which needed a abilities completed at unit requirement |
| 02:43.48 | Zara | ok |
| 02:44.04 | kaseano | so i have a level 1 validation, with a level 1 requirement |
| 02:44.17 | kaseano | i dont think the validation can find the triggering unit tho =( |
| 02:44.31 | kaseano | which means i'll prob have to have a level 1 upgrade that's set with a trigger when the unit researches the ability |
| 02:44.42 | Zara | ok |
| 02:44.44 | kaseano | just wondering if that's necessary, i feel like i'm so close w the validation + requirement |
| 02:44.50 | Zara | what's the prob? |
| 02:45.04 | Zara | Validator -> PlayerRequirement |
| 02:45.05 | Zara | ? |
| 02:45.10 | kaseano | and i know i could get it to work if the effects could take the requirement instead of valid |
| 02:45.12 | kaseano | yeah |
| 02:45.35 | Zara | so what's the prob? |
| 02:45.46 | kaseano | well it won't work for some reason |
| 02:45.55 | kaseano | it's weird cus the level 1 actually works but the other 2 dont |
| 02:46.01 | kaseano | and i checked them for typos over and over |
| 02:46.23 | Zara | ok this is what I do |
| 02:46.30 | kaseano | k |
| 02:46.30 | Zara | I create a function effect |
| 02:46.35 | Zara | to return the proper one |
| 02:46.43 | Zara | but i test IT one at a time |
| 02:46.56 | kaseano | yeah i tested each one |
| 02:46.56 | Zara | if you don't do so, you will never understand what is fucking it up |
| 02:47.11 | Zara | did u used condition effect? |
| 02:47.20 | kaseano | no, I've never done that |
| 02:47.23 | kaseano | I'll try to tho |
| 02:48.08 | Zara | if then if then if then ELSE |
| 02:48.19 | kaseano | u mean a condition validation ? |
| 02:48.23 | kaseano | function* |
| 02:48.33 | Zara | mhhhhhhh |
| 02:48.37 | Zara | w8 w8 |
| 02:48.53 | kaseano | i've tried messing around w them before, it seems like they take other validations |
| 02:49.07 | kaseano | which seemed like a dead end cus I can't get the original validations to work lol |
| 02:49.39 | allenmelon | idk why, but i find melee boring after a couple games |
| 02:50.10 | allenmelon | and i just noticed that sotis keeps ur record |
| 02:50.19 | allenmelon | of kills deaths assists and wins |
| 02:51.16 | Zara | sotis is the most unbalanced thing |
| 02:51.21 | Zara | I've ever seen in my life |
| 02:51.58 | Zara | after a while it's just like the first that shoots is the first that kills |
| 02:52.03 | Zara | and that's so boring |
| 02:52.57 | Mephs | lol |
| 02:53.04 | Mephs | kids ringing doorbells in the neighborhood and running for it |
| 02:53.12 | Mephs | kids these days are pansies |
| 02:53.22 | Mephs | we used to egg and TP the shit out of ppl's houses on mischief night |
| 02:53.27 | Mephs | next year i'm giong to hook up a shocker to the doorbell |
| 02:53.34 | Mephs | :> |
| 02:55.35 | Zara | hahaha |
| 02:55.42 | PointBlank | isn't halloween tomrorow? |
| 02:55.48 | Zara | put an observer on your door |
| 02:55.58 | Zara | or a radar so you can wait them on the door |
| 02:56.15 | Zara | *behind the door |
| 02:57.06 | PointBlank | get a lasso and open the door right when they go to ring, then grab em if they try to run lolz |
| 02:57.49 | Zara | is the siege tank range visible by enemies?! |
| 02:58.09 | Zara | I dun remember |
| 02:58.16 | PointBlank | nope |
| 02:58.23 | Zara | 100% sure? |
| 02:58.26 | PointBlank | yup |
| 02:58.39 | Zara | only to allies= |
| 02:58.40 | Zara | ? |
| 02:58.42 | PointBlank | yup |
| 02:58.55 | kaseano | I'm guessing Search - Area - Fraction, is an area that only takes a fraction of damage in search area/damage effects right ? |
| 02:59.05 | kaseano | any1 know how to set the fractioned amount of damage |
| 02:59.34 | Zara | area damage effect |
| 02:59.38 | Zara | AreaArray |
| 03:00.31 | Zara | look at |
| 03:00.36 | Zara | spider mine explosion for example |
| 03:02.37 | kaseano | oh awesome |
| 03:02.38 | kaseano | thx Zara |
| 03:03.27 | Zara | mephs |
| 03:03.41 | Zara | range filters are NOT working |
| 03:03.45 | Zara | at all |
| 03:14.09 | Nagnazul | hi |
| 03:14.14 | Nagnazul | anyone wanna help me playtest my map? |
| 03:15.57 | Zara | not us :S |
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| 03:30.20 | kaseano | I'm trying to get a missile to launch from the weapon attachment, which is usually easy w a generic attack action, but it's impacting on a point |
| 03:30.24 | kaseano | and i duno what to do :( |
| 03:30.32 | kaseano | cus the generic attack won't work |
| 03:37.34 | kaseano | also does any1 know how to attach multiple abilities/effects to 1 actor that requires a token ? |
| 03:44.55 | Nagnazul | anyone wanna help me playtest? |
| 03:49.16 | ShadowTaisho | what map? |
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| 03:52.25 | progammer | can anyone tell me why i cant scale death model for some unit (like building) |
| 03:53.30 | Nagnazul | anyone up for a game of my map? |
| 03:53.34 | Nagnazul | I need some help testing it |
| 03:53.43 | Nagnazul | contact me in game, name nagnazul, code 679 |
| 03:53.48 | Zara | are lobby player groups working?! |
| 03:53.50 | Nagnazul | the map's name is Stranded on Krydon |
| 04:01.49 | ShadowTaisho | what kind of map is it? |
| 04:07.18 | Nagnazul | a survival map |
| 04:07.20 | Nagnazul | 4 player coop |
| 04:12.09 | kaseano | took forever but I finally get how to make abilities look good, the actor playing an anim, the missile launching/impacting at the right attachments, launch actor effects, the mover handling the missile |
| 04:12.16 | kaseano | Finally |
| 04:13.54 | Nagnazul | grats |
| 04:16.34 | PointBlank | anyone know if its possible to add a behaviour to all of a unit type via triggers ... catalog doesn't work i think so that'd mean i have to manually add behavior to each unit on spawn :( |
| 04:18.23 | kaseano | u could put a validation or requirement on the behavior |
| 04:18.45 | kaseano | duno what your condition is but then use a trigger set upgrade to activate the behavior |
| 04:19.02 | kaseano | if u cant handle it directly from the requirement/validation |
| 04:19.43 | PointBlank | woo never thought of that, thanks :) |
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| 04:26.20 | kaseano | any1 know what "Animation Baseline Stop" does |
| 04:26.38 | kaseano | or Start |
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| 04:36.29 | rrowland | best(s) one(s) lol |
| 04:43.21 | HeyRevolver | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWZo9rvWv_w |
| 04:43.24 | HeyRevolver | roooooooofl |
| 04:47.53 | rrowland | where's the funny part |
| 04:51.20 | Maknyuzz | progamer |
| 04:57.59 | progammer | Maknyuzz: huh ? |
| 04:58.09 | rrowland | im going to call you programer |
| 04:58.15 | rrowland | that way I get both parts of it wrong |
| 04:58.23 | progammer | programmar ? |
| 04:59.13 | kaseano | lol |
| 05:00.57 | Maknyuzz | no talkin bout death animation |
| 05:05.10 | progammer | i dunno what causing it to not scale, i dup another actor for it instead |
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| 05:13.02 | Mephs | another 5hr shitty map by bounty incoming |
| 05:16.02 | rrowland | orly |
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| 05:22.28 | progammer | yeah rly http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/14246-video-ling-ling-rocket-gameplay/ |
| 05:23.15 | rrowland | lol |
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| 06:09.44 | Tordy | anyone else notice the new filters? |
| 06:09.48 | Tordy | Tower Defense and Tug of War |
| 06:09.53 | Tordy | :O |
| 06:09.57 | Tordy | hi there |
| 06:11.27 | Tordy | >:) |
| 06:13.51 | currydevil | no, but i want to know why my dummy weapon doesn't do what I want it to do :( |
| 06:14.00 | currydevil | or the dummy weapon i have forsaken |
| 06:15.13 | Tordy | currydevil!!! |
| 06:18.10 | currydevil | !!! |
| 06:20.01 | Tordy | hi currydevil |
| 06:20.04 | Tordy | hi :/ |
| 06:22.14 | currydevil | Hi Tordy |
| 06:28.29 | ekcolnovkol|zzzz | hai :u |
| 06:28.31 | ekcolnovkol|zzzz | u: |
| 06:38.02 | Maknyuzz | Anyone care to test a map |
| 06:38.05 | Maknyuzz | need 1 more |
| 06:38.22 | Maknyuzz | celled Baneling Marathon TD |
| 06:38.32 | Maknyuzz | if you filter on show new only |
| 06:38.59 | Maknyuzz | it should be on page 2 or so |
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| 06:40.33 | currydevil | Hoping someone can answer this question. Using an inventory item manipulation event.. ( i have 2 containers on each hero ) how am I speficifying the container to look in? =( i can set the slot, but seems like I cannot set the container. |
| 06:40.55 | currydevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:41.00 | currydevil | using that... |
| 06:41.28 | currydevil | 6 is the slot I want to look in, but it doesn't offer me a place to pick which container to look in as well. |
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| 07:11.07 | Sldprt | hey |
| 07:11.20 | Sldprt | anyone around |
| 07:11.30 | Tordy | ey |
| 07:11.31 | Tordy | wassup |
| 07:11.38 | Sldprt | hi |
| 07:11.43 | Tordy | hi ekcolnovkol@@@ |
| 07:11.47 | Tordy | hi ekcolnovkol|zzzz |
| 07:11.49 | Tordy | hi!!! |
| 07:11.50 | Tordy | ~ |
| 07:11.51 | Tordy | :) |
| 07:11.52 | Sldprt | found something really funny in the M3 format |
| 07:12.18 | Sldprt | the format tags form a story |
| 07:12.27 | Sldprt | the tag names |
| 07:13.56 | Sldprt | its a story about a guy killing a black guy that has a big dick. sound like he shot him, and bullet holes form a bigger space then his dick fits into |
| 07:14.42 | Sldprt | i am thinking about posting it in the forums, but its questionable the reaction |
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| 07:32.38 | allenmelon | anyone wanna play customs? |
| 07:34.21 | allenmelon | so bored... |
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| 07:37.26 | kaseano | I'm trying to create an effect where 1 missile splits into a bunch, cant come up w a way to do it tho |
| 07:38.25 | kaseano | I can get the parent missile to fire an effect half way through, but I lose the target point |
| 07:38.34 | Tordy | hi Kaelten |
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| 08:47.15 | allenmelon | marine arena is fun... |
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| 09:16.53 | Otixa | roars |
| 09:18.58 | Tordy | Hi otixa!!! |
| 09:19.01 | Tordy | otixa!!!! |
| 09:19.03 | Tordy | :) |
| 09:19.04 | Tordy | I missed you! |
| 09:19.05 | Tordy | :[ |
| 09:19.07 | Otixa | :c |
| 09:19.12 | Tordy | where you been |
| 09:19.13 | Otixa | hai2u2 ¬_¬ |
| 09:19.17 | Otixa | Busy |
| 09:19.20 | Tordy | :[ |
| 09:19.27 | Otixa | Also learning Zbrush |
| 09:19.29 | Otixa | Like so |
| 09:19.33 | Otixa | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/misc/lamp4.jpg |
| 09:19.37 | Otixa | Lamp head thing |
| 09:19.48 | Otixa | Zbrush -> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/misc/lamp3.jpg BAM |
| 09:19.53 | Tordy | i think i need an Otixa hug |
| 09:20.28 | Tordy | w0w |
| 09:20.33 | Tordy | that looks very good |
| 09:20.39 | Otixa | :> |
| 09:20.52 | Tordy | looks real if you look from far enough |
| 09:20.56 | Tordy | hi Otixa :) |
| 09:21.03 | Otixa | I'm not going for realism |
| 09:24.04 | Tordy | what are you going for |
| 09:24.33 | Otixa | uni |
| 09:25.21 | Tordy | i dont know what that means but :) |
| 09:25.31 | Otixa | university ¬_¬ |
| 09:32.42 | allenmelon | man, marine arena is so hard to win |
| 09:32.50 | allenmelon | theres always someone who takes the lead and keeps the lead |
| 09:42.44 | Tordy | . |
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| 10:57.41 | A1win | is there a function to return elapsed game time? O_o |
| 10:58.03 | A1win | Mission Time maybe? |
| 10:59.21 | A1win | yeah seems so... nvm |
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| 12:21.29 | Kopfnuss | Hey folks... Someone having a SC2-Listfile? Can't find anything on the internets! |
| 12:22.26 | Kopfnuss | ah lol... internal listfiles for the win. |
| 12:29.47 | Kopfnuss | which seems to be uncomplete.... |
| 12:37.24 | Kopfnuss | ah lol... wrong archieve. nevermind, sirs! |
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| 12:58.04 | A1win | can I make a dialog button that shows a resource cost in its tooltip and properly changes the numbers to red when you don't have enough resources? :S |
| 13:00.48 | Kopfnuss | Of course |
| 13:01.16 | Kopfnuss | It's a bit more complicated, but it's mostly about checking the ressources and changing the text if they drop under the value |
| 13:01.56 | A1win | bleh, I need it separately for 6 players... I guess I'd need one dialog for each of them, then :S |
| 13:02.16 | Kopfnuss | Nope, it's doable with just one dialog, i think |
| 13:02.46 | Kopfnuss | You can change the texts player-based |
| 13:02.48 | A1win | mmh I can't even get my icons to display properly... they aren't scaled down |
| 13:02.52 | A1win | mmh |
| 13:03.15 | Kopfnuss | It's sadly impossible to scale images... |
| 13:03.25 | A1win | how is it done for regular tooltips then? |
| 13:04.08 | Kopfnuss | Blizz can do it, but we can't |
| 13:04.21 | A1win | :[ |
| 13:04.31 | Kopfnuss | yepp, sad story :( |
| 13:16.44 | A1win | I can't even figure out how to make the tooltip title have the same style as the regular unit buttons have x> |
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| 13:18.14 | A1win | oh I did now... |
| 13:19.12 | Zara | guys |
| 13:19.27 | Zara | anyone knows WHY THE FUCK range actor filters are not working? |
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| 13:30.11 | Bibendus|AFK | the search function on mapster forum really sucks :| |
| 13:30.11 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 1 day 3 hours 20 seconds |
| 13:30.21 | Bibendus | sixen do something :| |
| 13:35.46 | Kopfnuss | It sucks that you always jump to the last post when clicking on a thread :| |
| 13:36.39 | Bibendus | it doesnt happen to me :| |
| 13:36.55 | Kopfnuss | wtf HOW |
| 13:36.58 | Kopfnuss | NEED |
| 13:40.30 | Bibendus | it just |
| 13:40.33 | Bibendus | doesnt happen to me |
| 13:40.34 | Bibendus | lol |
| 13:40.40 | Kopfnuss | :( |
| 13:40.42 | Bibendus | i always bounce to the first page and first post |
| 13:40.47 | Kopfnuss | i want that too |
| 13:40.51 | Kopfnuss | like hell |
| 13:42.13 | Bibendus | maybe |
| 13:42.15 | Bibendus | u have alwayz |
| 13:42.18 | Bibendus | something |
| 13:42.23 | Bibendus | set in the user profile |
| 13:43.51 | Kopfnuss | searched everywhere :| |
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| 13:50.23 | Bibendus | then u zuck |
| 13:50.23 | Bibendus | :D |
| 13:50.29 | Kopfnuss | :( |
| 13:50.36 | Bibendus | like the search function |
| 13:50.46 | Bibendus | that works soo bad with more then 1 word |
| 13:50.54 | Kopfnuss | Thats right |
| 14:03.24 | DekarAgain | bibendus, when will you make a nice rpg map? D: |
| 14:03.46 | Bibendus | not going to |
| 14:03.54 | DekarAgain | teh awwz |
| 14:03.59 | Bibendus | i had my sc2 D&D project but |
| 14:04.05 | Bibendus | i won't do it |
| 14:04.14 | Bibendus | hive keeper deserves more |
| 14:04.15 | Bibendus | :D |
| 14:04.21 | DekarAgain | whats that? |
| 14:04.27 | Bibendus | dungeon keeper map |
| 14:04.30 | DekarAgain | oooh |
| 14:05.41 | Bibendus | :D |
| 14:05.55 | Bibendus | http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1118/screenshot2010102700154.jpg |
| 14:07.45 | Kopfnuss | hope i can slap my drones! |
| 14:09.20 | Bibendus | why all say that? |
| 14:09.21 | Bibendus | lol |
| 14:09.34 | Kopfnuss | it's the most important part of the game |
| 14:09.48 | Bibendus | looooool |
| 14:10.59 | Kopfnuss | in with mpq are the new colored icons saved? :| |
| 14:13.26 | Bibendus | only god knows |
| 14:13.33 | Kopfnuss | i found SOME of them! |
| 14:13.34 | Bibendus | export them from the editor |
| 14:13.34 | Bibendus | :D |
| 14:13.39 | Bibendus | they are |
| 14:13.41 | Bibendus | in some patch mpqs |
| 14:13.45 | Kopfnuss | Yeah... |
| 14:14.05 | Kopfnuss | don't want to start the editor, it takes years for my laptop :| |
| 14:14.17 | Bibendus | lol |
| 14:14.29 | Bibendus | start the editor |
| 14:14.33 | Bibendus | with trigger editor loaded |
| 14:14.37 | Bibendus | instead of terrain |
| 14:14.45 | Kopfnuss | sounds like a good plan |
| 14:14.47 | Bibendus | and it's faster |
| 14:14.48 | Bibendus | :D |
| 14:15.19 | Kopfnuss | So how do i export them from the editor? Didn't knew thats possible |
| 14:16.04 | Bibendus | ye |
| 14:16.07 | Bibendus | u must find |
| 14:16.10 | Bibendus | the icon browser |
| 14:16.17 | Bibendus | the only way i found |
| 14:16.32 | Bibendus | is to change an image using the data editor |
| 14:16.35 | Bibendus | like a button image |
| 14:16.37 | Kopfnuss | ah |
| 14:16.38 | Bibendus | or a unit splat |
| 14:16.40 | Kopfnuss | i will try |
| 14:16.46 | Bibendus | in the browser then |
| 14:16.50 | Bibendus | you can choose your icon |
| 14:16.54 | Bibendus | and export it |
| 14:17.03 | Bibendus | there is a bug that prevents exporting in .dds format |
| 14:17.19 | Kopfnuss | yay found it |
| 14:17.42 | Bibendus | but if you press space to see the preview |
| 14:17.46 | Bibendus | u can export it in .tga |
| 14:18.37 | Kopfnuss | nice, thank you |
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| 14:26.58 | Kopfnuss | I can import them as dds |
| 14:27.01 | Kopfnuss | export |
| 14:27.45 | Bibendus | as i said |
| 14:27.48 | Bibendus | to export in tga |
| 14:27.53 | Bibendus | u must press space |
| 14:28.05 | Bibendus | so you open a new window with a preview |
| 14:28.08 | Bibendus | then right click export |
| 14:28.10 | Bibendus | to tga |
| 14:30.39 | Kopfnuss | yeah, but i can export them as dds aswell :P |
| 14:40.59 | Bibendus | when i try to do it |
| 14:41.05 | Bibendus | it forces me to export to |
| 14:41.10 | Bibendus | .dds.* |
| 14:41.51 | Bibendus | and it doesnt work because the * is a special key |
| 14:42.16 | Kopfnuss | wierd |
| 14:42.28 | Kopfnuss | maybe my german version is better :P |
| 14:44.33 | Bibendus | maybe windows 7 |
| 14:45.13 | Kopfnuss | maybe |
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| 15:11.07 | DekarAgain | maybe! |
| 15:13.16 | DekarAgain | maybe i should find a mapping team |
| 15:13.46 | Kopfnuss | maybe! |
| 15:14.33 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 15:28.20 | DekarAgain | sooo, is anyone making an awesome map and needs a trigger guy? D: |
| 15:29.19 | Kopfnuss | me not! |
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| 15:30.25 | DekarAgain | maybe i should harass my little xaragoth |
| 15:30.50 | Xaragoth | maybe I should ban you |
| 15:31.12 | DekarAgain | APPROXEMATED GRENADE TRAJECTORIES? NONSENSE! |
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| 15:39.28 | Zara | xara |
| 15:39.39 | Zara | do you know why actor filters are not working at all? |
| 15:40.45 | Xaragoth | no idea |
| 15:40.56 | Zara | Actor - Filters |
| 15:41.04 | Zara | are not hiding them properly |
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| 15:46.20 | Kopfnuss | http://oi53.tinypic.com/vy1phi.jpg |
| 15:46.25 | Kopfnuss | what you think? |
| 15:46.45 | Zara | nice! |
| 15:50.51 | DekarAgain | what does the dna button do? :D |
| 15:53.16 | Kopfnuss | Shows you avaible DNA to evolve :P |
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| 16:54.56 | RodOfNOD | made this for fun: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/Lindsay_Lohan_SC2Mapster.jpg |
| 16:55.29 | Kopfnuss | Next one: http://oi55.tinypic.com/29zqyd0.jpg |
| 16:57.10 | progammer | RodOfNOD: lol, you can make us some great commercial |
| 16:57.22 | progammer | like old spice :P |
| 16:58.35 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 16:58.59 | RodOfNOD | lynsay may be a ho but shes a decent looking ho |
| 17:11.24 | Zara | rod |
| 17:11.33 | Zara | do you know why actor filters are not working?= |
| 17:11.45 | Zara | maybe another flag is needed? |
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| 17:13.33 | Kenetor | sup bitches |
| 17:15.10 | Kopfnuss | hello sir! |
| 17:17.56 | RodOfNOD | i dont zara havent played with those yet |
| 17:17.57 | Kenetor | does anyone know how to fix a turret beam disconnecting from the turret while a unit is moving? |
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| 17:18.35 | RodOfNOD | mysuggestion for things like that kenetor is to duplicate an existing one and get the duplicate to be fully functioning first |
| 17:18.38 | RodOfNOD | then change the art etc |
| 17:25.37 | HeyRevolver | Shoulda used someone besides lindsay lohan |
| 17:25.47 | HeyRevolver | cool pic though |
| 17:25.56 | HeyRevolver | (im obviously an image critic) |
| 17:26.37 | Kopfnuss | Is it possible to open chat log and game menu via trigger? |
| 17:28.50 | HeyRevolver | no because then you could force exit the game for someone |
| 17:28.57 | HeyRevolver | and be like LOL |
| 17:32.02 | RodOfNOD | hehe HeyRevolver iwas looking through some wall papers andtheorange caught my eye of the candy wrapper and im like... hey i could easily make that a sc2mapster logo hehe |
| 17:33.22 | Kopfnuss | Sad story again :( |
| 17:34.03 | HeyRevolver | i see |
| 17:34.17 | HeyRevolver | Olivia Munn vs. Jessica Chobot... GO! |
| 17:35.10 | RodOfNOD | lol never seen either but both arehot |
| 17:35.13 | Kenetor | what are terms for within events |
| 17:35.14 | HeyRevolver | I vote for Chobot simply because her last name rhymes with Robot |
| 17:35.14 | RodOfNOD | but id say olivia |
| 17:35.25 | HeyRevolver | Just pure all around attractiveness |
| 17:35.32 | HeyRevolver | I like Chobot.. she knows more about games lol |
| 17:35.35 | HeyRevolver | and I like em skinny |
| 17:36.21 | HeyRevolver | I am surprised but most people I ask say Olivia Munn |
| 17:36.37 | HeyRevolver | She is too bitchy and narcasistic to be attractive to me |
| 17:36.51 | Kenetor | misa campo |
| 17:38.10 | Kopfnuss | http://half-asians.com/img/olivia_munn_42.jpg made Olivia win for me <3 |
| 17:38.44 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 17:39.56 | RodOfNOD | lol yea thats a deciding factor alrightlol' |
| 17:41.25 | RodOfNOD | nice website btw |
| 17:41.33 | Kenetor | lol |
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| 17:42.13 | HeyRevolver | when it comes down to pure physical attractiveness.. I have to give it to olivia |
| 17:42.16 | RodOfNOD | so anyone know how to make an application open up more file types? |
| 17:42.24 | HeyRevolver | but her personality detracts where Jessica's doe snot |
| 17:42.25 | RodOfNOD | im sick of winmpq not seeting these sc2map files as mpqs |
| 17:42.30 | HeyRevolver | hmmmmm |
| 17:42.32 | HeyRevolver | yes |
| 17:42.34 | RodOfNOD | yeah well all i saw was picktures |
| 17:42.37 | RodOfNOD | pictures |
| 17:42.45 | RodOfNOD | http://half-asians.com/ |
| 17:42.48 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 17:42.54 | RodOfNOD | that gal on the front is better looking than either of those 2 |
| 17:43.49 | HeyRevolver | one of me is |
| 17:43.52 | HeyRevolver | them* |
| 17:45.01 | HeyRevolver | I am retarded and cant get a pink oh well |
| 17:45.10 | HeyRevolver | happy halloween everyone! |
| 17:45.19 | RodOfNOD | any starcraft 1 expert mods on |
| 17:45.36 | RodOfNOD | i needa good recommendation for a sc1 editor |
| 17:45.44 | RodOfNOD | http://www.creepcolony.com/staredit.shtml |
| 17:45.46 | RodOfNOD | found a big list |
| 17:47.03 | HeyRevolver | [13:45] <HeyRevolver> I am retarded and cant get a pink oh well |
| 17:47.05 | HeyRevolver | *link |
| 17:47.16 | HeyRevolver | can't get a pink... that sounds... weird |
| 17:49.21 | currydevil | yeah you gotta watch out for them pinks |
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| 17:57.29 | RodOfNOD | anyone know of old software that allowed us to look at a unittype view and see all the data values in sc1? |
| 17:58.27 | Kenetor | arg! for some reason my unit makes a clone of its turret every time it fires :( |
| 17:58.35 | Kenetor | leaves it lying around everywhere |
| 17:58.42 | RodOfNOD | cuz ur events are doubled up |
| 17:58.57 | RodOfNOD | ie when u duplicated u didnt change all of the values correctly |
| 17:59.14 | Kenetor | cant of |
| 17:59.21 | Kenetor | made the unit from scratch |
| 17:59.34 | RodOfNOD | well its why u would have the issues u are having |
| 17:59.51 | Kenetor | hmm one of the guides i followed is wrong somewhere |
| 18:00.12 | RodOfNOD | iahve found that daat entry isnt an exact science :P |
| 18:00.18 | RodOfNOD | but it is if u do it in xml hehe |
| 18:00.27 | Bibendus|AFK | ~seen redmarine |
| 18:00.32 | purl | redmarine <d9ac5669@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.172.86.105> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 9d 23h 44m 18s ago, saying: 'I got a question. Anyone knows how I can effectively store together regions or points and on how I can detect which of them are the closest to a specific point? I'm aware that I can simply create a large region/point array but I'm hoping that there is a better way'. |
| 18:00.32 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 3 hours 15 minutes 54 seconds |
| 18:00.32 | currydevil | lol |
| 18:00.45 | Kenetor | can you do it in pure xml? |
| 18:01.15 | RodOfNOD | well i was mostly making a statement not a recommendation |
| 18:01.18 | RodOfNOD | but yes u can |
| 18:01.33 | Kenetor | where and how |
| 18:01.40 | RodOfNOD | i am doing all my data first to test in the editor then in a giant excel spreadsheet that generates the xml |
| 18:01.47 | RodOfNOD | this is all custom shit ive made :P |
| 18:02.36 | Kenetor | balls |
| 18:02.42 | Kenetor | i hate this editor |
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| 18:03.21 | RodOfNOD | hey helral |
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| 18:04.20 | RodOfNOD | hi mephs |
| 18:06.51 | Helral | meow |
| 18:09.40 | RodOfNOD | gives Helrala scratch under the chin and a bop on the head |
| 18:09.51 | Helral | meows hungrily |
| 18:10.01 | Helral | hasn't had dinner yet :P |
| 18:10.14 | RodOfNOD | drops a salmon head into a bowl and says have at it |
| 18:10.36 | Helral | looks at the salmon head, and the bowl. |
| 18:11.07 | Helral | hits the bowl at a calculated angle causing the salmon head to fly through the air. |
| 18:11.10 | HeyRevolver | kicks the shit out of Helral and reminds him he is not a fucking cat. |
| 18:11.16 | Helral | meows |
| 18:11.31 | HeyRevolver | murders Helral in cold blood. And he is still not a cat. |
| 18:11.39 | Helral | watches the salmon head land on HeyRevolver's head. |
| 18:11.40 | RodOfNOD | helral is a cat ive talked to him and he most definately meows |
| 18:12.00 | HeyRevolver | I am just jealous |
| 18:12.05 | HeyRevolver | so I make mean comments |
| 18:12.12 | HeyRevolver | goes back into his hole |
| 18:12.34 | Helral | needs to buy another card of cat-lives. current card is running low. |
| 18:13.04 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 18:13.08 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 18:13.17 | Helral | :) |
| 18:13.18 | Kenetor | damn it i cant cant find what causing these turrets :( |
| 18:13.37 | Helral | causing which turrets? |
| 18:14.24 | HeyRevolver | wonders why God chose Helral and not him to be a cat-human hybrid |
| 18:14.33 | Mephs | you fags RP'ing in here |
| 18:14.38 | Helral | isn't a hybrid. |
| 18:14.38 | HeyRevolver | hahahaha |
| 18:14.45 | Helral | isn't RP |
| 18:14.52 | Helral | ... 'ing |
| 18:15.10 | Mephs | i'm waiting for the furry porn to start. |
| 18:15.26 | HeyRevolver | He has a special keyboard that has really big keys so his paws dont hit the wrong ones |
| 18:15.29 | Kenetor | i havea turret on my unit that is making more turrets detached at the units origin ever time it fires |
| 18:15.33 | HeyRevolver | and his computer also converst all text into meows |
| 18:18.17 | Mephs | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9xS_CEQWdk&feature=player_embedded |
| 18:18.47 | Kenetor | yeah thats a great help... |
| 18:18.50 | Zara | mephs |
| 18:19.04 | Zara | sup? |
| 18:19.13 | Mephs | there a way |
| 18:19.22 | Mephs | to get an ability to fire without the unit turning towards the target loc? |
| 18:19.26 | Mephs | before casting it? |
| 18:19.35 | Zara | use actor effects only |
| 18:19.41 | Zara | no attack/missile actors |
| 18:19.46 | Mephs | ... |
| 18:20.02 | Mephs | what? |
| 18:20.16 | Zara | if you don't want unit to turn |
| 18:20.21 | Zara | it must not be an attack |
| 18:20.32 | Zara | or maybe there are some flag like keep rotation |
| 18:20.33 | Mephs | it's a targetted ability |
| 18:20.34 | Zara | to enable |
| 18:20.38 | Mephs | no i mean |
| 18:20.46 | Mephs | by default units turn towards what they're targetting before the cast phase starts |
| 18:20.52 | Mephs | er prepar phase |
| 18:21.02 | Zara | mhhhhh |
| 18:21.09 | HeyRevolver | hey guys you know those medicine guns that dont use syringes but just push the meds straight through your skin with a burst of high pressure? |
| 18:21.24 | HeyRevolver | what are those called? |
| 18:21.29 | Mephs | oh nvm |
| 18:21.30 | Mephs | found it |
| 18:21.33 | Mephs | Ability - Arc |
| 18:21.34 | Mephs | lol |
| 18:21.38 | Zara | mephs yesterday |
| 18:21.44 | Zara | you told me how to hide a range actor |
| 18:21.49 | Zara | from enemies and neutral units |
| 18:21.55 | Mephs | yuh |
| 18:21.56 | Zara | using actor filters |
| 18:22.08 | Zara | but those filters are NOT working at all, totally broken |
| 18:22.34 | Zara | no actor, even in default data, uses them |
| 18:22.58 | Mephs | huh? |
| 18:22.59 | Mephs | they work |
| 18:23.43 | Zara | not working for me :S |
| 18:23.59 | Mephs | how can you see it if you local test |
| 18:24.04 | Mephs | i mean that its working |
| 18:24.07 | Zara | ... |
| 18:24.15 | Zara | well I've hidden them also to player |
| 18:24.23 | Zara | so I don't use them |
| 18:24.32 | C-H_ | copied terrain into a new map now i cant add textures :( |
| 18:24.46 | Zara | C-H wrong map terrain |
| 18:24.56 | C-H_ | O.o |
| 18:25.27 | Zara | mephs: well... I placed some sensors for hostile player (15) and those sensors have a range actor hidden to enemies |
| 18:25.35 | Zara | but I can see them anyway on the map |
| 18:25.44 | HeyRevolver | I am dressing up as a ghost from sc2 for halloween this year |
| 18:25.53 | HeyRevolver | yes I still dress up |
| 18:26.31 | C-H_ | ugh why can't it just apply the ciffs and junk with the new terrain |
| 18:27.07 | Zara | mephs: made the same with neutral player... range actor filters: neutral/enemy/ally... only visible by neutral player... but I can still see it |
| 18:28.59 | Zara | i wanna cry |
| 18:29.04 | HeyRevolver | =( |
| 18:29.21 | Mephs | try the other way around |
| 18:29.28 | Mephs | hmm idk |
| 18:29.32 | Mephs | thats wierd, it works for me |
| 18:29.40 | Zara | even for local tests? |
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| 18:32.41 | Zara | http://img229.imageshack.us/f/screenhc.jpg/ <- actor |
| 18:34.34 | Kenetor | fixed it! |
| 18:34.36 | Kenetor | wooo |
| 18:40.44 | Bibendus|AFK | oh SHIT |
| 18:40.44 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 40 minutes 16 seconds |
| 18:40.46 | Bibendus | Trigger Error in 'gt_UnitInitAI_Func': Too many threads |
| 18:41.18 | Bibendus | scary error of death! |
| 18:41.26 | Helral | LOL |
| 18:41.30 | Helral | damned caps ;p |
| 18:43.06 | Bibendus | i'm actually scared by that :| |
| 18:44.47 | Dustin | Oh hai guys |
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| 18:48.18 | Bibendus | hi dustin browder |
| 18:52.21 | Bibendus | fuck thaaaaaat |
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| 19:06.36 | Zara | guys |
| 19:06.47 | Zara | behavior speed multiplier 1.5 = +50% speed? |
| 19:09.05 | Xaragoth | should be, yes |
| 19:10.10 | Mephs | if i wanna use somethin like a fury gauge |
| 19:10.14 | Mephs | that's a behavior yea? |
| 19:10.16 | Mephs | attribute |
| 19:10.26 | Zara | ya |
| 19:10.48 | Zara | mephs did actor filter worked also in local map? |
| 19:10.51 | Mephs | yea |
| 19:10.59 | Mephs | it might be something in your events ?_? |
| 19:10.59 | Mephs | idk |
| 19:11.09 | Zara | I use SelectionLocalUpdate |
| 19:11.12 | Zara | in those range events |
| 19:11.17 | Zara | that's all |
| 19:11.40 | Zara | I try with a brand new map |
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| 20:00.43 | Maknyuzz | hi guys |
| 20:00.50 | Maknyuzz | wondering in the m3 model |
| 20:01.03 | Maknyuzz | what makes a unit can be colored automatically by the team color? |
| 20:01.25 | Maknyuzz | i mean marine can be blue, red, purple, yellow, pink, etc ,etc based on team/player color |
| 20:01.33 | Maknyuzz | how do you add that thing to your model? |
| 20:13.03 | Zara | texture |
| 20:13.07 | Zara | alphas |
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| 20:13.31 | progammer | who knows how to remove everything but a text field in the unit info panel ? |
| 20:13.40 | Zara | custom panel :D |
| 20:13.48 | Zara | you can just remove |
| 20:13.48 | progammer | no just like normal unit |
| 20:13.53 | Zara | oh nonono ok |
| 20:13.58 | progammer | for example onetwo's TD |
| 20:14.01 | Zara | you can remove armor/weapon icons |
| 20:14.06 | Zara | so it don't shows up |
| 20:14.07 | progammer | yeah that |
| 20:14.09 | Zara | and you can also |
| 20:14.30 | Zara | remove kills and grade |
| 20:14.42 | Zara | but not type infos |
| 20:14.47 | Zara | and wireframe |
| 20:15.19 | Zara | KillDisplay -> never |
| 20:15.33 | Zara | this remove kills and grade |
| 20:15.46 | progammer | so how exactly do i do that ? set the field value to none ? |
| 20:15.52 | progammer | or have an actor event for that ? |
| 20:16.15 | Zara | Never |
| 20:16.25 | Zara | set unit field KillDisplay to never |
| 20:23.32 | progammer | Zara: i still get the armor icon |
| 20:24.49 | Zara | remove the icon field |
| 20:24.53 | Zara | remove icon reference |
| 20:24.55 | Zara | from unit |
| 20:25.05 | Zara | there is a field named Armor Icon with a dds linked |
| 20:25.12 | Zara | remove it, empty |
| 20:26.15 | Maknyuzz | Zara |
| 20:26.20 | Maknyuzz | what makes a unit can be colored automatically by the team color? |
| 20:26.22 | Maknyuzz | i mean marine can be blue, red, purple, yellow, pink, etc ,etc based on team/player color |
| 20:26.24 | Maknyuzz | how do you add that thing to your model? |
| 20:26.37 | Maknyuzz | what do you mean by alpha? |
| 20:26.59 | progammer | alpha channel |
| 20:27.10 | progammer | in photoshop |
| 20:27.43 | progammer | Zara: i removed the name, the icon under actor, now its still shows the icon with no name |
| 20:28.03 | progammer | and where is the description field that I can put for it instead of these places |
| 20:29.26 | [newbie] | hm does any one know a good site i could check for the default values of in game objects ? |
| 20:30.37 | progammer | Vail: right click on the field, set change to parent value, and you will get the default value |
| 20:30.56 | Vail | that doesnt help... |
| 20:31.26 | Vail | i need a visual refrence so i dont have to keep going back and forth between dialogs |
| 20:31.49 | progammer | screenshot it before changin anything ? |
| 20:32.28 | Vail | i am using the campaign data and i need to change some things to the er multiplayer data values... |
| 20:33.08 | progammer | just screenshot it yourself, i dont see anything like that documented |
| 20:33.50 | Maknyuzz | or make a duplicate |
| 20:36.35 | progammer | Zara: now i have a white icon for armor .. |
| 20:40.51 | Mephs | hm |
| 20:40.59 | Mephs | how do you make a behavior cause another behavior to not affect them? |
| 20:41.17 | PointBlank | Vail: show all dependencies and then duplicate from MultiMod instead of the SC2 Campaign :) |
| 20:41.21 | Mephs | like it just instantly removes the behavior. i can get it to disable the behavior, but it stays on them until the immunity effect wears off |
| 20:41.24 | Mephs | then lasts its duration |
| 20:41.41 | Mephs | er lemme describe better |
| 20:41.47 | Mephs | dude has a behavior that makes him immune to stuns |
| 20:42.01 | Mephs | i have that behavior disabled when he has "stoneskin" on |
| 20:42.09 | PointBlank | does anyone know if it's possible to display 2 weapons when a unit has veterancy? it seems to switch the unit UI to only show 1 :( |
| 20:42.18 | Mephs | so it hits him, doesn't affect him, the stun is disabled |
| 20:42.22 | progammer | Mephs: look at frenzy |
| 20:42.28 | Mephs | when stoneskin wears off, the stun lasts its 2 sec and then disappears |
| 20:42.32 | Mephs | hmk |
| 20:42.36 | progammer | i believe its Modifications- Behavior Disavbled |
| 20:42.49 | Mephs | well the problem is |
| 20:42.58 | Mephs | i'm using that? but when the stun lands, it still stays on them |
| 20:43.04 | Mephs | until the immunity wears off |
| 20:43.19 | progammer | if the stun is a behavior, it should not be appliable |
| 20:44.18 | Mephs | well the stun is applied |
| 20:44.25 | Mephs | but it doesn't affect him till his stoneskin wears off |
| 20:44.32 | Mephs | by default the stun has 2 sec duration |
| 20:44.35 | Mephs | stoneskin goes up |
| 20:44.38 | Mephs | i hit him with the stun |
| 20:44.40 | Mephs | he can still move |
| 20:44.44 | Mephs | stoneskin wears off, he's stunned 2 sec |
| 20:44.48 | Mephs | then the behavior disappears |
| 20:45.02 | progammer | maybe its the way you apply it |
| 20:45.14 | progammer | check for frenzy and other stun behavior blizzard did |
| 20:46.33 | Mephs | yea...it uses a validator |
| 20:46.44 | Mephs | to check if they're frenzied |
| 20:46.45 | Mephs | hm |
| 20:47.17 | Mephs | i guess i could just have a "state" buff with no real effect on it |
| 20:47.49 | Mephs | a 2ndary buff called "immune to stun" or "immune to snare" and validate off those. |
| 20:48.13 | progammer | should be more organized |
| 20:48.21 | Mephs | actually dont even need a 2nd buff |
| 20:48.32 | Mephs | just a validator that does an OR combine for all the immunity buffs in the game of that type |
| 20:48.46 | Mephs | so "Is Stun Immune" would include having Stoneskin, or any other immunity buff |
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| 20:55.06 | Mephs | aha that works. |
| 20:56.18 | Maknyuzz | i have a problem guys |
| 20:56.29 | Maknyuzz | i put trigger to handle leaving player |
| 20:56.34 | Zara | programmer empty armor icon, not default one |
| 20:56.40 | Zara | field must be empty |
| 20:56.47 | Maknyuzz | it works when player sanitily left the game |
| 20:56.54 | Maknyuzz | but when its dc during loading screen |
| 20:57.00 | Maknyuzz | it is acting weird |
| 20:57.12 | Zara | it doesn't matter if it's during loading |
| 20:57.19 | Zara | it won't be there SINCE the beginning |
| 20:57.46 | Zara | or just flag players with a bool LoggedActive |
| 20:57.50 | Maknyuzz | yea but it seems to be affecting triggering player + 1 |
| 20:57.55 | Zara | and then do trigger things only if it logget active |
| 20:58.01 | Maknyuzz | ah ic |
| 20:58.18 | Zara | triggering player + 1 = dangerous thing |
| 20:58.31 | Zara | find another way |
| 20:58.56 | Maknyuzz | no i didnt do it |
| 20:59.02 | Maknyuzz | but i just got a case |
| 20:59.10 | Maknyuzz | where a player DC during loading screen |
| 20:59.17 | Maknyuzz | that guy player 2 |
| 20:59.25 | Maknyuzz | then player 3 got affected by the trigger |
| 20:59.42 | Maknyuzz | looks like it automatically goes to the next player |
| 20:59.51 | Maknyuzz | i think i shouldnt do initially on |
| 20:59.57 | Zara | create a new player group at the beginnig |
| 21:00.03 | Zara | and put all active players inside it |
| 21:00.09 | Zara | use that one |
| 21:00.13 | Zara | instead of active users |
| 21:01.03 | progammer | zara i'm emptied it, but have to be through set to parent value, otherwise it consider an empty string |
| 21:01.12 | progammer | so how do I get the unit description to show there |
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| 21:01.28 | Zara | programmer use right click -> reset to parent |
| 21:01.49 | progammer | yeah i'm done with that |
| 21:02.04 | progammer | now i need unit description to show there instead |
| 21:02.12 | Zara | no way |
| 21:02.13 | Zara | :D |
| 21:02.25 | progammer | hm |
| 21:02.32 | Zara | custom unit panel |
| 21:02.35 | Zara | i said you before |
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| 22:59.59 | Tordy | anyone have the sc2 logo |
| 23:00.11 | Tordy | sc2mapster logo in 64x64 |
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| 23:03.11 | Mephs | dont be shocked |
| 23:03.13 | Mephs | by the tone |
| 23:03.14 | Mephs | of our voice |
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| 23:11.44 | Dryeyece | Hi everyone |
| 23:12.07 | Dryeyece | anyone know if there is a way through triggers to set a unit as the unit a player has selected and lock that unit as the selection? |
| 23:12.49 | Tordy | what just happened!? |
| 23:15.27 | A1win | Dryeyece, make everything else unselectable? |
| 23:15.43 | A1win | though then they're also unselectable by other players |
| 23:15.43 | Dryeyece | Ive found a trigger to add unit to control group |
| 23:15.57 | A1win | control group is the ctrl+number thing |
| 23:16.12 | Dryeyece | well I can make all enemy NPC units unselectable |
| 23:16.13 | Dryeyece | aye |
| 23:16.16 | A1win | there are triggers to force selection too but not to lock selection |
| 23:16.44 | A1win | but yeah you can make everything else unselectable, either by triggers or data editor |
| 23:17.12 | Dryeyece | I have it set right now that when the Hero unit is created its added to control group 1 but yeah it seems like im going to ahve to make other units unselectable, which I wanted to avoid but ohh well lol |
| 23:17.13 | A1win | there's a "set unit state" action or something like that |
| 23:17.14 | progammer | select that unit for player, then set everything as unselectable (even your unit) |
| 23:17.34 | progammer | when you want to select smt, turn it selectable , select, then turn it off |
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| 23:18.09 | A1win | making it unselectable removes the bars and circle from the unit though? |
| 23:19.20 | A1win | disable cursor from the player, then he can't select anything ;3 |
| 23:22.12 | Tordy | hi there |
| 23:32.44 | Mephs | hrm |
| 23:33.00 | Mephs | how might i go about controlling a force effect better |
| 23:33.22 | Tordy | Mephs how's that l2d thing goin |
| 23:33.28 | Tordy | what did blizz do to you |
| 23:33.36 | Tordy | hi Mephs |
| 23:33.49 | Tordy | anyway, did the custom map list "change" ? |
| 23:33.57 | Tordy | i cant put my finger in it |
| 23:34.00 | Tordy | but it feels different |
| 23:34.11 | Mephs | idk |
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| 23:48.45 | Tordy | hi rrowland |
| 23:50.13 | rrowland | hallo |
| 23:50.19 | rrowland | perso who made battlecraft |
| 23:52.19 | Tordy | hi |
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| 23:53.50 | Tordy | 5 year old reviewing a game w0w |
| 23:54.30 | Tordy | http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/djwheat |
| 23:59.36 | Tordy | huk!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:59.38 | Tordy | hi rrowland |
| 23:59.50 | rrowland | hallo |
| 23:59.51 | rrowland | perso who made battlecraft |
