| 00:02.36 | ProzaicMuze | No |
| 00:02.42 | ProzaicMuze | Sets do everything in it at once |
| 00:02.49 | ProzaicMuze | or a certain number |
| 00:03.12 | ProzaicMuze | Persistents have locations, offsets, can randomize offsets, can alternate effects |
| 00:03.12 | ProzaicMuze | Sets are groups of effects |
| 00:03.20 | ProzaicMuze | persistents are locations where effect phases occur |
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| 00:04.15 | Shawn|Rawr | PM, i completed your uberlisk tut and i fucked it up lol |
| 00:04.23 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 00:04.42 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 00:04.56 | Xaragoth | PM, you did shit with your tutorial! it's like your voice! *flameflame* ;D |
| 00:05.07 | ProzaicMuze | You're just jealous |
| 00:05.10 | ProzaicMuze | I understand |
| 00:05.49 | Xaragoth | yes, totally :[ of the data skillz at least, I could use those from time to time. |
| 00:05.55 | Xaragoth | but not of that voice! |
| 00:05.57 | ProzaicMuze | You mean all the time |
| 00:06.05 | Xaragoth | nah |
| 00:06.05 | ProzaicMuze | And my voice is better than yoru dirty european voice |
| 00:06.13 | Xaragoth | our project just doesn't require that much data |
| 00:06.16 | Arthas- | im watching the qa panel now |
| 00:06.21 | progammer | nice warp prism play |
| 00:06.29 | Arthas- | did the panel even get what half of the questions was about :p |
| 00:07.23 | Shawn|Rawr | No, they misunderstood a lot |
| 00:07.27 | Shawn|Rawr | It was frustrating |
| 00:07.32 | Arthas- | misunderstood? |
| 00:07.40 | ProzaicMuze | AKA - avoided everything important |
| 00:07.42 | Xaragoth | they call it dodge-skillz |
| 00:07.43 | Arthas- | the hotkey problem, it feels like they should connect to that one |
| 00:07.55 | Shawn|Rawr | They acted like they didnt know it existed |
| 00:07.56 | Shawn|Rawr | imo |
| 00:07.58 | Arthas- | and the data mining one |
| 00:08.55 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 00:09.53 | Jum-Jum | Demonette |
| 00:10.02 | Demonette | Hi Jum-Jum |
| 00:10.03 | Jum-Jum | You were the one who mentioned something about a team melee right? |
| 00:10.09 | Demonette | Yea... |
| 00:10.14 | Jum-Jum | Did you make one? |
| 00:10.21 | Jum-Jum | I'd love to get my friends to play one with me |
| 00:10.22 | Jum-Jum | train them |
| 00:10.23 | Demonette | i was a little busy past weeks |
| 00:10.34 | Jum-Jum | oh I thought you already had made one done |
| 00:10.47 | Demonette | i already have one done thats true |
| 00:11.04 | Demonette | but's not a very great map i think |
| 00:11.21 | Demonette | are you EU oder somewhere else? |
| 00:11.35 | Jum-Jum | I'm a platinum player but all my friends are bronze |
| 00:11.38 | Jum-Jum | yes EU |
| 00:12.09 | Jum-Jum | oder haha, hello germany |
| 00:12.18 | Demonette | oder das... |
| 00:12.38 | Demonette | hatte ich deinen Namen + ID? |
| 00:13.35 | Demonette | Jum-jum? |
| 00:13.39 | Jum-Jum | haha im not german |
| 00:13.43 | Jum-Jum | <Demonette> are you EU oder somewhere else? |
| 00:14.18 | Xaragoth | name & id Jum-Jum ^^ |
| 00:14.57 | Jum-Jum | your subconcsious told you to spell oder instead of or |
| 00:15.02 | Jum-Jum | i did in notice Xaragoth |
| 00:15.10 | kaseano | oh ok thx ProzaicMuze |
| 00:15.32 | Xaragoth | http://www.sjoerdblauw.nl/files/project_life_cycle.gif |
| 00:15.33 | Xaragoth | rofl |
| 00:15.40 | Xaragoth | perfect game development comic |
| 00:15.40 | Xaragoth | xD |
| 00:15.48 | ProzaicMuze | np kas |
| 00:15.57 | Xaragoth | proziac |
| 00:16.02 | ProzaicMuze | wah? |
| 00:16.02 | Xaragoth | found out how that rocket worked yet? |
| 00:16.10 | ProzaicMuze | wait, what? |
| 00:16.13 | Xaragoth | from blizzcon |
| 00:16.15 | Xaragoth | that rocket spell |
| 00:16.20 | Xaragoth | with splitting and all |
| 00:16.27 | Xaragoth | or rather how the effect was achieved ^^ |
| 00:16.34 | ProzaicMuze | I'm not sure what you're talking about |
| 00:16.38 | ProzaicMuze | i don't remember a missile spell |
| 00:16.52 | ProzaicMuze | I remember the missile stuff |
| 00:16.58 | ProzaicMuze | and the mousefollow with global refs |
| 00:17.10 | Xaragoth | they showed that missile thingy firing from the battlecruiser |
| 00:17.23 | Demonette | Jum-Jum du müsstest schon online kommen |
| 00:17.25 | Xaragoth | first they had 1 big, slow missile and it split up into a lot smaller ones |
| 00:17.27 | ProzaicMuze | I don't remember, link me a clip |
| 00:17.34 | ProzaicMuze | ooooh |
| 00:17.36 | ProzaicMuze | yeah |
| 00:17.38 | ProzaicMuze | that's easy |
| 00:17.45 | ProzaicMuze | it's a missile that has a buff on it |
| 00:18.08 | ProzaicMuze | the buff creates a persistent and kills the missile |
| 00:18.22 | ProzaicMuze | the persistent spawns the missile swarm |
| 00:18.23 | ProzaicMuze | and viola |
| 00:18.26 | ProzaicMuze | splitting missile |
| 00:18.40 | ProzaicMuze | I'm assuming this is an ability though |
| 00:18.45 | Xaragoth | yes |
| 00:19.01 | ProzaicMuze | BUt yeah |
| 00:19.17 | ProzaicMuze | Ability > Missile > Buff > Persistent (Kill Missile) > Misile x N |
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| 00:20.15 | crazyfingers | if you guys aren't watching it, epic SC 2 match is going on |
| 00:20.29 | Xaragoth | epic music is going on too |
| 00:20.39 | Hikury | are those two hosts still there? |
| 00:20.45 | Xaragoth | yes -,- |
| 00:20.48 | Xaragoth | in-between |
| 00:20.56 | Hikury | those guys were just... TANKING |
| 00:21.04 | Hikury | wish they had been in my guild |
| 00:21.13 | Xaragoth | they should replace those hosts with total biscuit |
| 00:21.14 | kaseano | how do u watch it |
| 00:21.15 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 00:21.19 | Xaragoth | I paid. |
| 00:21.25 | Xaragoth | wanted my murloc in sc2 |
| 00:21.25 | Xaragoth | xD |
| 00:21.25 | ProzaicMuze | watch what? |
| 00:21.30 | Hikury | some poeple have posted pirate links |
| 00:21.38 | Hikury | I don't have one, personally |
| 00:21.38 | kaseano | i duno thought there was some tournament going on |
| 00:21.43 | ProzaicMuze | Not the tourny |
| 00:21.46 | ProzaicMuze | what is this pirate talk? |
| 00:21.50 | ProzaicMuze | I've heard it several times |
| 00:21.52 | ProzaicMuze | but everyone ignores me |
| 00:21.57 | ProzaicMuze | and makes me sad |
| 00:22.02 | ProzaicMuze | It's like I'm not important |
| 00:22.03 | ProzaicMuze | and I simply can't have that |
| 00:22.07 | Hikury | what do you want to know? |
| 00:22.11 | Xaragoth | move along, please. there is no PM to see here. |
| 00:22.11 | kaseano | I learned a lot watching the last one like dropping banes from overlords lol |
| 00:22.13 | kaseano | i want to see the next one |
| 00:22.22 | ProzaicMuze | Pirate link |
| 00:22.24 | ProzaicMuze | what is this/ |
| 00:22.25 | ProzaicMuze | ? |
| 00:22.33 | ProzaicMuze | Since it sounded like someone pirated a game the first time I heard about it |
| 00:22.42 | Hikury | it is a link that is a pirate, like Jack Sparrow |
| 00:22.42 | ProzaicMuze | but nobody explained what this "pirating" was |
| 00:22.47 | Hikury | arr sea turtles |
| 00:22.53 | kaseano | lol |
| 00:22.55 | Xaragoth | mostly re-streaming ProzaicMuze ^^ |
| 00:22.56 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 00:23.00 | Saeris | yea |
| 00:23.01 | ProzaicMuze | ah |
| 00:23.03 | Saeris | the pirate strea |
| 00:23.03 | ProzaicMuze | then nvm |
| 00:23.04 | Saeris | m |
| 00:23.40 | Hikury | to "pirate" is to take something that is normally leagally published (something digital) and experience it for free |
| 00:23.50 | ProzaicMuze | I know what pirating is |
| 00:24.12 | Hikury | sorry, lots of finns here |
| 00:24.20 | Hikury | sometimes need english help time |
| 00:24.43 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 00:24.43 | Saeris | sadly the free rts stream is better than the pirate stream =P and still free |
| 00:24.45 | ProzaicMuze | I'm american |
| 00:24.46 | ProzaicMuze | not english |
| 00:24.57 | Saeris | tho i am really thankful for that pirate for the dev streams |
| 00:25.36 | Xaragoth | that old guy on the sound panel |
| 00:25.43 | Xaragoth | that's what you call experience |
| 00:25.48 | crazyfingers | 40 bucks is pretty rediculous for a stream that's more or less an extended commercial |
| 00:25.54 | Saeris | i think i missed that |
| 00:26.05 | Saeris | unless you're talking about the voice actors |
| 00:26.29 | ProzaicMuze | what? |
| 00:26.34 | ProzaicMuze | you have to pay for the Blizz stream? |
| 00:26.37 | Saeris | yea |
| 00:26.40 | Saeris | for the dev streams |
| 00:26.40 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 00:26.42 | ProzaicMuze | how ghey |
| 00:26.42 | Saeris | $40 |
| 00:26.57 | Saeris | you get the decals/murloc marine portrait and the deathy pet =P |
| 00:27.05 | Saeris | well |
| 00:27.07 | Xaragoth | i watch it every year |
| 00:27.07 | Saeris | deathling* |
| 00:27.09 | Xaragoth | i got the money |
| 00:27.15 | Xaragoth | and I enjoy it every time |
| 00:27.18 | Saeris | toss some my way =P |
| 00:27.31 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 00:27.33 | Xaragoth | money is only wasted, when you don't enjoy it |
| 00:27.38 | ProzaicMuze | I'll just steal all of the above and put it in my own map |
| 00:27.42 | crazyfingers | seriously, i need beer money and people are throwing money away on virtual pets :P |
| 00:27.43 | Saeris | if they threw out beta keys with it, i would pay for it if i could |
| 00:27.43 | Bibendus|AFK | eeeepic final |
| 00:27.44 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 48 minutes 48 seconds |
| 00:27.49 | Xaragoth | so, PM spends money on his barbie collection, I spend money on the blizz stream ^^ |
| 00:27.50 | Bibendus | http://blizzcon.rayv.com/ |
| 00:27.55 | ProzaicMuze | No no |
| 00:27.56 | ProzaicMuze | not barbie |
| 00:27.57 | ProzaicMuze | GI JOE! |
| 00:27.59 | Hikury | good show |
| 00:28.00 | Hikury | yeah I watched the costume/dance competition |
| 00:28.03 | Saeris | anyways brb |
| 00:28.10 | Bibendus | i watched it without payin |
| 00:28.11 | Xaragoth | man |
| 00:28.11 | Bibendus | so .. :D |
| 00:28.14 | Bibendus | who won? |
| 00:28.18 | Xaragoth | that old guy knows his stuff |
| 00:28.26 | ProzaicMuze | He's old |
| 00:28.27 | ProzaicMuze | he better |
| 00:28.38 | Xaragoth | hopefully i'm as vital as he is when I get that old |
| 00:28.44 | crazyfingers | i know who lost... that kid's right femur |
| 00:28.45 | Xaragoth | and hopefully I can still kick PMs ass by that time. |
| 00:29.12 | Xaragoth | Otixa probably will stab people for real when he gets old XD |
| 00:29.19 | Xaragoth | because he is old, whatcha gonna do? |
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| 00:32.34 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 00:32.37 | ProzaicMuze | when I'm that old I'll own you |
| 00:32.42 | ProzaicMuze | You'll be my kitchen wench |
| 00:33.04 | Xaragoth | when I'm old |
| 00:33.07 | Xaragoth | I'll shot you |
| 00:33.13 | Xaragoth | because nobody will care when I do that |
| 00:33.18 | Xaragoth | because i'll be old! |
| 00:33.21 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 00:33.26 | Xaragoth | and I can blame it on crazy age |
| 00:33.26 | Xaragoth | xD |
| 00:33.31 | ProzaicMuze | not if I'm in jail because I started blowing up government buildings |
| 00:33.50 | ProzaicMuze | I will die a criminal before I die in a hospital |
| 00:33.54 | ProzaicMuze | I'm just evil like that |
| 00:33.56 | Xaragoth | I'll send you a cake in that case |
| 00:34.05 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 00:34.18 | Xaragoth | and if you add water |
| 00:34.20 | Xaragoth | it'll blow up |
| 00:34.21 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 00:34.34 | Xaragoth | so practice your spitting! |
| 00:36.00 | ProzaicMuze | I'll just pull a beiber and throw a water bottle at it from afar |
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| 00:41.24 | Bibendus | how these finals work? |
| 00:41.30 | Bibendus | the guy won 3 in a row |
| 00:41.33 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Xg3QLb3Ec |
| 00:41.34 | Bibendus | and they are still playing |
| 00:46.25 | ZarafFaraz | which guy won 3 in a row? |
| 00:47.52 | Mephs | all these terran crying cuz theri EZ mode spree is over |
| 00:47.56 | Mephs | lols |
| 00:48.12 | Mephs | i actually had someone call me a homo cause i 7RR'd him |
| 00:48.28 | ZarafFaraz | 7 reapers? |
| 00:48.31 | Mephs | roach |
| 00:48.36 | ZarafFaraz | ahh |
| 00:48.48 | ZarafFaraz | he should have gotten air |
| 00:48.50 | Mephs | he was |
| 00:48.53 | Mephs | giong for fast banshee |
| 00:48.57 | ZarafFaraz | lol |
| 00:49.02 | ZarafFaraz | not fast enough apparently |
| 00:49.12 | Mephs | apparently |
| 00:49.18 | Mephs | you can't get banshees outt fast enough |
| 00:49.21 | Mephs | its not possible |
| 00:49.34 | ZarafFaraz | plus you need a lot of gas |
| 00:51.23 | ZarafFaraz | Mephs what league are you in? |
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| 01:00.13 | progammer | Bibendus: its double elimination |
| 01:00.38 | Bibendus | a bit late |
| 01:00.38 | Bibendus | xD |
| 01:00.45 | Bibendus | to tell me |
| 01:00.45 | Bibendus | xD |
| 01:00.46 | Mephs | diamond |
| 01:00.50 | Mephs | 1300-1400'ish |
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| 01:03.14 | Bibendus | AHAHAHAHHA |
| 01:03.40 | crazyfingers | rofl, nex genius is a badass |
| 01:03.51 | progammer | blizz tour is a complete fail |
| 01:03.55 | progammer | day 9 owns |
| 01:04.09 | Bibendus | "that wasn't soo hard to win this tournament" |
| 01:04.11 | Bibendus | BADASS! |
| 01:04.27 | progammer | he blows his way in the loser bracket though |
| 01:04.35 | progammer | so yeah badass |
| 01:04.53 | Bibendus | 4 0 |
| 01:04.55 | Bibendus | xD |
| 01:05.00 | Bibendus | oh |
| 01:05.09 | Bibendus | who beated him? |
| 01:05.15 | crazyfingers | he intentionaly lost so he could wreck more shop in the losers bracket |
| 01:05.17 | Bibendus | to come from the looser bracket |
| 01:06.47 | crazyfingers | no idea |
| 01:06.53 | crazyfingers | so that's all the starcraft matches huh? |
| 01:06.59 | crazyfingers | damn those are addicting |
| 01:07.08 | Bibendus | xD |
| 01:07.18 | crazyfingers | way more fun to watch that game be played that try to play it yourself |
| 01:07.18 | Bibendus | always no zergs |
| 01:07.19 | Bibendus | i hate that |
| 01:07.45 | Mephs | what? |
| 01:07.47 | crazyfingers | fruit seller did a ton of matches |
| 01:07.52 | Mephs | fruitdealer rapes |
| 01:07.53 | crazyfingers | as zerg |
| 01:07.56 | crazyfingers | yeah |
| 01:08.05 | crazyfingers | he was amazing to watch |
| 01:08.06 | Mephs | i'm trying to migrate more to his macro style |
| 01:08.11 | Mephs | from a 1-base rush strat |
| 01:08.38 | crazyfingers | he plays like i do, but actually knows what he's doing |
| 01:08.49 | crazyfingers | i just massed drones as zerg cuz i didn't know what else to build :P |
| 01:09.16 | Mephs | thats the general goal |
| 01:09.24 | Mephs | if they're not going for an early timing push |
| 01:09.28 | Mephs | you can macro their face off |
| 01:09.44 | progammer | for the swarmzzzz |
| 01:09.49 | progammer | !!! |
| 01:10.08 | progammer | looks at how much roach he throws at boxer in the 2nd match |
| 01:10.10 | progammer | that's the swarm |
| 01:10.13 | Mephs | lol |
| 01:10.17 | Mephs | thing is he builds EVERYTHING |
| 01:10.21 | Mephs | so he can make any army, any time |
| 01:10.25 | Mephs | thats where zerg shines |
| 01:10.29 | Mephs | versatility and reactive |
| 01:10.33 | crazyfingers | high end play of starcraft is so incredible, it's a shame 90% of us will never get to partake in it haha |
| 01:10.41 | Bibendus | http://blizzcon.tgbf.tv/ |
| 01:10.46 | Jum-Jum | yeah crazyfingers |
| 01:10.51 | Jum-Jum | the game looks so much fun on high level |
| 01:10.52 | Mephs | play top level diamond for a week |
| 01:10.53 | Mephs | it gets old |
| 01:11.12 | progammer | its a sport man |
| 01:11.15 | Bibendus | they should restart |
| 01:14.46 | crazyfingers | ha, i thought rodrigo might be shitting us about that chat spamming |
| 01:14.50 | crazyfingers | but there it is |
| 01:18.29 | Rodrigo | I've talked to him |
| 01:18.37 | Rodrigo | in the middle of the game between Husky and HD |
| 01:18.50 | Rodrigo | I called him to play Debates |
| 01:19.00 | Rodrigo | he said he never heard about Debates and Nexus Word Wars |
| 01:19.06 | Rodrigo | he has only 1 custom game played ever |
| 01:19.10 | Rodrigo | and it is burning tide |
| 01:19.21 | crazyfingers | i don't blame 'em |
| 01:19.27 | crazyfingers | custom maps are in the dumps right now |
| 01:19.41 | progammer | lol bobby jocks |
| 01:19.44 | Rodrigo | he was actually polite |
| 01:20.01 | progammer | in a video like a day in the sc2 works of samwise |
| 01:20.01 | Rodrigo | did u see him talking to me on the video? |
| 01:20.07 | progammer | he got a call from bobby kotick |
| 01:20.09 | progammer | lol |
| 01:21.08 | Rodrigo | I got Husky and HD ids |
| 01:21.15 | Rodrigo | they are playing 1x1 |
| 01:21.25 | Rodrigo | should I pm Husky with HD's strategy? |
| 01:21.30 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 01:21.35 | Rodrigo | then, I get banned 1 hour later |
| 01:22.22 | Xaragoth | god |
| 01:22.25 | Xaragoth | that male host |
| 01:22.29 | Xaragoth | is just stupid & annoying |
| 01:22.33 | Xaragoth | he just repeats stuff over and over |
| 01:22.37 | Xaragoth | you notice that he doesn't care |
| 01:22.41 | Xaragoth | while the women know their stuff |
| 01:22.42 | Xaragoth | :O |
| 01:22.50 | Rodrigo | I invited him to a NExus Word Wars game, hahah. the message popped up in his screen |
| 01:23.11 | Jum-Jum | why are you in those games Rodrigo? |
| 01:23.13 | Rodrigo | you can see my name there annoying him |
| 01:23.35 | Rodrigo | I just sent him messages :P |
| 01:23.41 | Rodrigo | anyone can message anyone on battle.net |
| 01:24.33 | Rodrigo | it's funny how he is ignoring my message |
| 01:24.57 | Xaragoth | rodrigo, stop annoying people :P |
| 01:25.13 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 01:25.18 | progammer | Xaragoth: feel free to proceed |
| 01:25.34 | Xaragoth | with angry rant or bashing rodrigo? :> |
| 01:25.41 | progammer | both |
| 01:25.49 | progammer | kill him if you can |
| 01:25.51 | Xaragoth | 4:33 |
| 01:26.02 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 01:26.04 | Xaragoth | the banner |
| 01:26.15 | Xaragoth | ozzy was ok for children last year |
| 01:26.16 | Xaragoth | tenacious isn't |
| 01:26.17 | Xaragoth | XD |
| 01:26.19 | Bibendus | shits |
| 01:26.22 | Bibendus | trigonometry |
| 01:26.44 | Bibendus | if i know 3 angles of a triangle |
| 01:26.55 | Xaragoth | over 100k people that want to kill you bastard on the stream |
| 01:26.58 | Bibendus | and the base of the triangle |
| 01:27.08 | Bibendus | how do i get the other 2 legz |
| 01:27.37 | Xaragoth | draw & measure? |
| 01:27.56 | ShadowTaisho | hey all |
| 01:28.19 | Bibendus | lol |
| 01:28.26 | Bibendus | cmon |
| 01:28.27 | Bibendus | by trigger :D |
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| 01:29.50 | wOlfLinG | SOHCAHTOA! |
| 01:29.53 | Bibendus | arctan |
| 01:29.53 | wOlfLinG | ^^ |
| 01:29.54 | Bibendus | :O |
| 01:30.12 | Tordy | hi there |
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| 01:33.56 | wOlfLinG | Closing concert is starting on the Blizzcon stream :/ |
| 01:33.58 | progammer | Bibendus: rape wikipedia |
| 01:34.03 | slightlyrandom | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigonometry |
| 01:34.05 | Bibendus | wiki sucks |
| 01:34.10 | Tordy | :O |
| 01:34.14 | slightlyrandom | Herecy! |
| 01:34.18 | Xaragoth | tenacious inc! |
| 01:34.18 | Bibendus | i need a specific example |
| 01:34.20 | Bibendus | for that |
| 01:34.22 | Xaragoth | THE D! |
| 01:34.22 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 01:34.24 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 01:34.35 | wOlfLinG | THE D(ickheads) xD |
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| 01:34.44 | Bibendus | wow |
| 01:34.46 | Bibendus | maybe i found it |
| 01:34.49 | Xaragoth | wOlfLinG, you just didn't insult the D. You are in for hell! |
| 01:34.58 | Xaragoth | slaps vjeux around a bit with a large trout |
| 01:34.59 | Xaragoth | vjeux |
| 01:35.02 | Xaragoth | gimme op |
| 01:35.03 | vjeux | ? |
| 01:35.04 | Xaragoth | I gotta act out justice! |
| 01:35.08 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 01:35.10 | Xaragoth | wOlfLinG insulted the D |
| 01:35.13 | Xaragoth | he needs to be punished |
| 01:35.14 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Xaragoth] by vjeux |
| 01:35.14 | Xaragoth | ! |
| 01:35.15 | wOlfLinG | You shall never ban me! |
| 01:35.18 | wOlfLinG | NOES! |
| 01:35.22 | vjeux | shall you be judged! |
| 01:35.25 | wOlfLinG | Please! Mercy! |
| 01:35.30 | wOlfLinG | I was joking! |
| 01:35.32 | *** kick/#sc2mapster [wOlfLinG!~name@pD9FFB466.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] by Xaragoth (BE JUDGED! THE D WILL ROCK ON!) |
| 01:35.37 | Xaragoth | alright |
| 01:35.38 | Xaragoth | job done |
| 01:35.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (5616a54b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.22.165.75) |
| 01:35.44 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [-o Xaragoth] by Xaragoth |
| 01:35.45 | vjeux | :p |
| 01:35.45 | wOlfLinG | :( |
| 01:35.46 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 01:35.50 | wOlfLinG | ;_; |
| 01:35.53 | slightlyrandom | Is Blizzard Dota any good ? |
| 01:35.57 | Xaragoth | now, concert, AFK |
| 01:35.59 | wOlfLinG | I shall never insult the D again |
| 01:36.06 | wOlfLinG | looks good random |
| 01:36.14 | Tordy | when's blizz's custom maps coming? |
| 01:36.17 | Bibendus | leg2 = leg1 * tan(angle opposite to leg2) |
| 01:36.23 | Bibendus | yey |
| 01:36.27 | Bibendus | lets see |
| 01:36.34 | wOlfLinG | Thats what i said -.- |
| 01:36.37 | Mephs | when they have enough room to feature all of them |
| 01:36.41 | Mephs | first 3 pages |
| 01:36.41 | wOlfLinG | 'SOHCAHTOA' :P |
| 01:36.44 | Mephs | FEATURED BLIZZARD MAP HAYYYY |
| 01:36.46 | Tordy | :[ |
| 01:36.49 | Bibendus | WHERE? |
| 01:36.55 | vjeux | omg there's sohcahtoa also in english |
| 01:36.57 | vjeux | so cool :p |
| 01:37.13 | Mephs | the custom maps list starts after the first 3 pages of pay-only maps! |
| 01:37.26 | Mephs | i'm starting to loathe blizzard very much |
| 01:37.27 | wOlfLinG | Sin Opposite Hypotonuse etc xD |
| 01:37.38 | vjeux | Opposé / Adjacent : |
| 01:37.39 | vjeux | p |
| 01:37.43 | Tordy | did they update it? |
| 01:37.49 | Tordy | any idea when blizz dota is coming up? |
| 01:37.58 | vjeux | (c) Soon |
| 01:37.59 | Tordy | Mephs :[ |
| 01:38.06 | Bibendus | what the fuck happened vj |
| 01:38.06 | Tordy | Mephs!!!!! :((( |
| 01:38.08 | Bibendus | i didnt understand |
| 01:38.11 | wOlfLinG | Soon (R) |
| 01:38.14 | vjeux | Bibendus: ? |
| 01:38.25 | Bibendus | oh it was mephs |
| 01:38.25 | Bibendus | :D |
| 01:38.33 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 01:38.33 | Bibendus | what happened with efatured map? |
| 01:38.35 | Bibendus | new featured map? |
| 01:38.40 | Tordy | what featrued map |
| 01:38.54 | Bibendus | dunno |
| 01:38.55 | Bibendus | mephs |
| 01:38.56 | Bibendus | plz.. |
| 01:38.58 | wOlfLinG | ? |
| 01:39.02 | wOlfLinG | No blizz map out yet |
| 01:39.08 | Tordy | what happened!? |
| 01:39.11 | wOlfLinG | A month or so left :) |
| 01:39.12 | Bibendus | dunno |
| 01:39.24 | Tordy | such a monster |
| 01:41.23 | vjeux | do you think that photoncommand has become popular in europe because of my news? :p |
| 01:42.02 | Tordy | hi vjeux |
| 01:42.07 | vjeux | hey |
| 01:42.50 | Tordy | that real-time countdown on mmo-champion was really cool vjeux :) |
| 01:43.09 | vjeux | Dinnerbone did it |
| 01:43.12 | Tordy | :o |
| 01:43.27 | vjeux | I just edited it a bit so that it fits mmoc needs :p |
| 01:43.31 | wOlfLinG | In a few weeks, SC2Mapster WILL be the popularity system :D |
| 01:43.45 | Tordy | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/8/979/bnetfail.png |
| 01:43.45 | Tordy | XD |
| 01:43.54 | wOlfLinG | If we say 'This map is bad', people will stop playing it ^^ |
| 01:44.46 | Bibendus | fuck |
| 01:44.49 | Bibendus | did they actually announce |
| 01:44.51 | Bibendus | custom map winners? |
| 01:45.00 | vjeux | http://marlamin.nl/blizzcon/schedule.php |
| 01:45.03 | vjeux | Bibendus: nop |
| 01:45.06 | Bibendus | lol? |
| 01:45.08 | Bibendus | is that a joke? |
| 01:45.12 | Bibendus | maps were stupid? |
| 01:45.14 | Bibendus | what s that |
| 01:45.18 | vjeux | well |
| 01:45.22 | vjeux | people want to play blizz dota |
| 01:45.31 | Bibendus | i dont get it |
| 01:45.33 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 01:45.36 | vjeux | not the contest winners |
| 01:45.39 | Bibendus | didnt they announce that custom winning maps |
| 01:45.42 | vjeux | maps are available on the computers |
| 01:45.44 | Bibendus | would have been announced at blizzcon? |
| 01:45.54 | vjeux | anyone can see them |
| 01:45.54 | Bibendus | oh :| |
| 01:45.57 | vjeux | but |
| 01:45.58 | slightlyrandom | hahahahaha |
| 01:46.01 | vjeux | since they have the choice |
| 01:46.01 | Bibendus | not on stream |
| 01:46.07 | Bibendus | between their map |
| 01:46.09 | Bibendus | and other maps |
| 01:46.10 | Bibendus | ... |
| 01:46.11 | slightlyrandom | "Fuck you, map makers" |
| 01:46.12 | vjeux | well |
| 01:46.14 | vjeux | between dota |
| 01:46.16 | vjeux | and other maps :p |
| 01:46.18 | Bibendus | lol |
| 01:46.23 | Bibendus | now i understand |
| 01:46.24 | progammer | given that like anything in blizzcon, bdota will not be out for a few weeks |
| 01:46.25 | Bibendus | why they said |
| 01:46.32 | progammer | playing them is smt you want to do |
| 01:46.34 | Bibendus | that dota would not ever been featured |
| 01:46.34 | progammer | like play d3 |
| 01:46.42 | Bibendus | to discourage mappers to do one :D |
| 01:46.45 | vjeux | xD |
| 01:46.51 | Bibendus | new MMO? |
| 01:46.52 | Bibendus | !!! |
| 01:47.04 | progammer | confirmed |
| 01:47.05 | vjeux | yeah blizz is working on a new mmo |
| 01:47.06 | progammer | sneak peak |
| 01:47.07 | Bibendus | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/carefoot |
| 01:47.08 | Bibendus | GUYS |
| 01:47.09 | Bibendus | LISTEN NOW |
| 01:47.10 | Bibendus | ! |
| 01:47.11 | Bibendus | mmo |
| 01:47.17 | Bibendus | fuck |
| 01:47.19 | wOlfLinG | MMO! |
| 01:47.25 | Bibendus | xD. |
| 01:47.26 | Bibendus | bastard |
| 01:47.27 | wOlfLinG | I'm a few seconds behind :/ |
| 01:47.50 | progammer | lol |
| 01:47.55 | wOlfLinG | bastard xD |
| 01:48.09 | Bibendus | :O |
| 01:48.11 | Xaragoth | they got us |
| 01:48.13 | wOlfLinG | Imagine if that wasn't a joke xD |
| 01:48.13 | Xaragoth | bastards |
| 01:48.14 | Bibendus | i said it |
| 01:48.14 | Xaragoth | XD |
| 01:48.15 | progammer | i thought it was world of rainbow |
| 01:48.18 | Bibendus | lol |
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| 01:48.36 | Tordy | where's PM |
| 01:48.36 | Bibendus | xD |
| 01:48.40 | Xaragoth | lol XD |
| 01:48.49 | Tordy | where's PM in the editor video |
| 01:49.27 | wOlfLinG | lol @ 'Couldn't afford the subtitles' xD |
| 01:49.29 | progammer | given all annoucement is on the first day |
| 01:49.32 | progammer | take all of this as joke |
| 01:49.37 | wOlfLinG | I know ^^ |
| 01:50.39 | Bibendus | bruce campbell |
| 01:50.40 | progammer | knwe it |
| 01:50.42 | wOlfLinG | lol @ 'Double rainbow of unicorn happiness' xD |
| 01:50.43 | progammer | rainbow again |
| 01:50.45 | Bibendus | wasnt the thief from hercules? |
| 01:50.46 | Bibendus | xD |
| 01:51.03 | Bibendus | lol |
| 01:51.18 | wOlfLinG | Just say 'FOR THE SWARM!' -.- |
| 01:51.35 | wOlfLinG | NOES! 'Free beta keys'!? >< |
| 01:52.25 | Xaragoth | they did that last year ^^ |
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| 01:52.43 | progammer | well i dont think d3 is viable for beta now .. |
| 01:52.44 | Tordy | where's PM!?!?!?! |
| 01:53.26 | wOlfLinG | Tenacious A! |
| 01:53.29 | wOlfLinG | xD |
| 01:53.31 | wOlfLinG | j/k |
| 01:53.32 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 01:53.36 | progammer | good one |
| 01:53.36 | wOlfLinG | It's D obviously! |
| 01:53.50 | wOlfLinG | face melts |
| 01:54.05 | Bibendus | xD |
| 01:54.08 | wOlfLinG | :/ shoulda done /me s face melts |
| 01:54.14 | wOlfLinG | 's face melts |
| 01:54.18 | progammer | kill me that guy now |
| 01:54.26 | Bibendus | hahha |
| 01:54.28 | Bibendus | drunken tenacius D |
| 01:55.14 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 01:55.15 | Tordy | so how would i do this rainbow archon |
| 01:55.25 | Tordy | just the cycling of colors |
| 01:55.32 | crazyfingers | hahah, tenacious D had to get totally blitzed to do this show |
| 01:55.38 | wOlfLinG | Get an archon, add a rainbow, give it a unicorn and watch them fight |
| 01:55.39 | crazyfingers | ROFL about the money |
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| 01:56.22 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 01:56.22 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 01:56.24 | vjeux | hey guys |
| 01:56.29 | Tordy | what is this "power slide" he's talking about in the custom map vid? |
| 01:56.30 | vjeux | we just have our record on sc2mapster |
| 01:56.40 | vjeux | 75k people on 24 hours :p |
| 01:56.49 | Xaragoth | nice |
| 01:56.50 | Tordy | :O |
| 01:56.54 | Xaragoth | blizzcon helped rofl |
| 01:56.54 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 01:56.56 | progammer | we have good coverage |
| 01:57.01 | Tordy | what is it usually? |
| 01:57.01 | vjeux | mmo-champion helped :p |
| 01:57.04 | vjeux | around 15k :p |
| 01:57.32 | Tordy | anyone know what this "power slide" the data editor specialist is talking about it the editor video? |
| 01:57.41 | progammer | also the ingame screenshot are hard to come by :) |
| 01:57.49 | Xaragoth | tordy: look for power on missile |
| 01:57.51 | Xaragoth | that should be it |
| 01:57.51 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 01:57.54 | Tordy | power what |
| 01:57.59 | vjeux | 49k referal by mmo-champion xD |
| 01:58.03 | wOlfLinG | :O |
| 01:58.08 | Tordy | esentially kind of like heat-seeking missiles |
| 01:58.11 | Tordy | that's so cool |
| 01:58.12 | Tordy | >_> |
| 01:58.23 | vjeux | so that's 10k more than usual anyway :) |
| 01:58.31 | wOlfLinG | Tenacious D seem to just be there cause they get paid -.- |
| 01:58.43 | wOlfLinG | I said seem! Don't kick me! |
| 01:58.56 | wOlfLinG | cowers from the awesome might of Xaragoth |
| 01:58.57 | Demalii | I thought most people hated them anyways? |
| 01:58.58 | Xaragoth | I doubt they care where they play |
| 01:59.16 | Xaragoth | but they're fun |
| 01:59.16 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 01:59.24 | Tordy | where's da money scan |
| 01:59.29 | Demalii | though wonder boy had a fun guitar |
| 01:59.38 | wOlfLinG | Honestly, never heard of them before a few days ago :? |
| 01:59.41 | wOlfLinG | :/* |
| 01:59.43 | vjeux | 3:59 Carefoot: Dude I;m so high don't blow my buzz |
| 01:59.44 | vjeux | xD |
| 01:59.49 | RodOfNOD | u youngins make sure u turn off the feed |
| 01:59.51 | Demalii | listen to wonderboy |
| 01:59.56 | Demalii | pretty tight song |
| 01:59.57 | Xaragoth | you guys don't know a legend of rock *sighs* |
| 02:00.01 | wOlfLinG | Rod, how young is young? :P |
| 02:00.08 | RodOfNOD | id pg 13? |
| 02:00.11 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 02:00.14 | wOlfLinG | Well i'm 15 ^^ |
| 02:00.17 | RodOfNOD | probably nc17 |
| 02:00.17 | vjeux | wOlfLinG: I didn't know they were playing music, but the fat guy is playing on a lot of movies |
| 02:00.18 | wOlfLinG | So i pass |
| 02:00.39 | Xaragoth | jack black played in quite a few movies too |
| 02:00.40 | wOlfLinG | Yeah, i've heard of the members before, but not the band :/ |
| 02:00.43 | Xaragoth | Tropic Thunder for example |
| 02:00.45 | RodOfNOD | who is the cute asian chick? |
| 02:00.46 | Xaragoth | or School Of Rock |
| 02:00.53 | crazyfingers | Pick of destiny? |
| 02:00.57 | crazyfingers | come on it was about the group |
| 02:01.00 | Xaragoth | that's what it started |
| 02:01.05 | Xaragoth | *where |
| 02:01.06 | Xaragoth | not what |
| 02:01.07 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 02:01.17 | crazyfingers | nah, long before that, they've been around a while |
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| 02:01.27 | Xaragoth | yeah, but with actual movie stuff |
| 02:01.27 | crazyfingers | saw 'em open for weezer way back in the day |
| 02:01.30 | crazyfingers | had no idea who they are |
| 02:01.34 | crazyfingers | laughed my ass off |
| 02:01.42 | kaseano | hi, my LM effect is targeting a point, is there any way to offset it off the ground |
| 02:02.06 | crazyfingers | LM effect? |
| 02:02.36 | kaseano | launch missile |
| 02:02.39 | Tordy | what's heart of swarm look like it's about |
| 02:02.46 | Tordy | somethin about some super zerg swarms? |
| 02:02.48 | Tordy | why is kerrigan stil there? |
| 02:02.50 | Dustin| | omfg these level designers are idiots |
| 02:02.55 | Dustin| | They cant answer basic questions... |
| 02:03.00 | Tordy | where |
| 02:03.15 | wOlfLinG | Looks like kerrigan in a ghost suit summoning an Omegalisk |
| 02:03.35 | Tordy | they're purposely stuttering and dodging the questions >_> |
| 02:03.46 | Bibendus | LOOOOOL |
| 02:03.46 | progammer | wOlfLinG look more like omgwtfbbq lisk for me |
| 02:03.51 | Bibendus | is that a green deathwing? |
| 02:03.53 | wOlfLinG | what the hell are The D wearing? -.- |
| 02:04.01 | wOlfLinG | progammer, ya xD |
| 02:04.05 | crazyfingers | i dunno but they make it awesome |
| 02:04.10 | crazyfingers | they need to stop showing hte crowd |
| 02:04.14 | crazyfingers | ruining the show |
| 02:06.08 | progammer | also char is going to look like a jungle |
| 02:06.17 | RodOfNOD | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 02:06.40 | Tordy | omegalisk!L!KJ!JKLj |
| 02:06.42 | Tordy | OOOOOOO |
| 02:07.42 | Bibendus | i don't like that :| |
| 02:08.06 | Dustin| | Anyone know how to turn off the damn mouse drag selection box |
| 02:08.06 | Tordy | hi Bibendus |
| 02:08.07 | Tordy | :3 |
| 02:08.11 | Bibendus | hi |
| 02:08.26 | Bibendus | dustin |
| 02:08.28 | Bibendus | if u find it |
| 02:08.31 | Bibendus | tell me xD |
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| 02:08.43 | Dustin| | Ive been looking for a long time :P |
| 02:08.51 | progammer | Dustin|: seems they add such support in patch 1.2 |
| 02:08.54 | Dustin| | Maybe theyll add it on 1.2 |
| 02:08.56 | progammer | i dont see it in their video |
| 02:09.01 | Bibendus | he s talking |
| 02:09.04 | Bibendus | of the graphic |
| 02:09.10 | Bibendus | of drag drop |
| 02:09.10 | progammer | yep |
| 02:09.11 | Bibendus | ooh |
| 02:09.12 | Dustin| | I figured with the mouse hover det FINALLY theyd add it |
| 02:09.12 | Bibendus | yes |
| 02:09.13 | progammer | the drag box |
| 02:09.16 | Bibendus | to make that thing |
| 02:09.19 | Bibendus | it should be disabled! |
| 02:09.24 | progammer | oh i have a solution |
| 02:09.31 | Bibendus | else u cant to the turret thing |
| 02:09.32 | progammer | find that color in the data editor |
| 02:09.38 | progammer | change transparencey to 0 |
| 02:09.38 | Bibendus | make it alpha |
| 02:09.40 | Bibendus | but |
| 02:09.41 | progammer | might work |
| 02:09.42 | Bibendus | how to find it |
| 02:09.43 | Tordy | mouse hover where |
| 02:09.45 | Bibendus | maybe in the general data |
| 02:10.04 | progammer | no its the game UI data tab |
| 02:10.09 | Dustin| | Tordy they are adding Mouse Hover Detection in 1.2 patch |
| 02:10.16 | Bibendus | oh |
| 02:10.18 | Bibendus | selection data |
| 02:10.21 | Bibendus | selection colors |
| 02:10.30 | Tordy | so like tracking mouse coordinates without clicking? |
| 02:10.32 | Tordy | :] |
| 02:10.36 | Dustin| | yup! |
| 02:10.48 | Tordy | hope the input lag doesn't screw it up |
| 02:10.50 | Tordy | >:) |
| 02:10.53 | Dustin| | I know right lol |
| 02:10.57 | Bibendus | i suppose |
| 02:10.59 | Bibendus | its for unit selections |
| 02:11.03 | Bibendus | not for the drag thing |
| 02:11.19 | Tordy | the grim! |
| 02:11.40 | Dustin| | I want terrain detection on a specific point |
| 02:11.47 | Dustin| | So i can make my damn worms type game |
| 02:11.50 | Bibendus | what do u want to detect |
| 02:11.54 | Bibendus | texture? |
| 02:11.58 | Dustin| | Ya on the ground |
| 02:12.00 | Bibendus | u cant |
| 02:12.04 | Dustin| | I know |
| 02:12.05 | Bibendus | u should use |
| 02:12.06 | Bibendus | pathing |
| 02:12.07 | Dustin| | I want to :P |
| 02:12.10 | Bibendus | if it's for worms |
| 02:12.13 | Dustin| | Pathing wont work |
| 02:12.18 | Bibendus | why notz |
| 02:12.32 | Tordy | there's 4 data specialists on blizz's map dev team |
| 02:12.33 | Tordy | :O |
| 02:12.35 | Dustin| | Because it'd be hard if not impossible |
| 02:12.39 | Tordy | we need to get at least 1 of them in here! |
| 02:12.52 | Dustin| | Its all dynamic |
| 02:13.05 | Mephs | 5 now torday! |
| 02:13.11 | Tordy | :o! |
| 02:13.15 | Tordy | how? |
| 02:13.18 | Mephs | eckononlovolvlo |
| 02:13.20 | Tordy | PM got in!? |
| 02:13.21 | Tordy | >_> |
| 02:13.32 | RodOfNOD | dustin what exactly about theterrain are u trying to detect |
| 02:13.39 | kaseano | any1 know a reason why it won't let me launch 30 missiles in 3 persistents in 1 set? only about half the missiles fire |
| 02:13.50 | Tordy | can eckonolnovkol share info yet |
| 02:14.00 | Dustin| | What type it is |
| 02:14.12 | RodOfNOD | well do uhave set terrain? |
| 02:14.16 | Dustin| | No |
| 02:14.17 | RodOfNOD | what do u do with the info? |
| 02:14.22 | Dustin| | It's gonnab e dynamic |
| 02:14.25 | RodOfNOD | ie give me an example |
| 02:14.29 | Dustin| | Ok so |
| 02:14.30 | Tordy | dynamic!!! :) |
| 02:14.30 | Tordy | >:) |
| 02:15.23 | wOlfLinG | The kickass lizard just quit the D! xD |
| 02:15.26 | Dustin| | I have a map, camera is 90 degrees straight down. I have one Texture as a Skyline, let's say it's a custom Blue texture, and I have Grass spots on the ground. I want to move the unit down continually like Gravity untill he colides with the Grass texture |
| 02:15.29 | Xaragoth | no |
| 02:15.33 | Xaragoth | it's opening for a song |
| 02:15.33 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 02:15.38 | wOlfLinG | i know ^^ |
| 02:15.39 | crazyfingers | oh fuck, kyle quit the banks, AGAIN |
| 02:15.42 | crazyfingers | what are the odds!? |
| 02:15.45 | Dustin| | That way I can make dynamic terrain creation and destruction for worms type gameplay. |
| 02:15.47 | crazyfingers | *bad |
| 02:15.50 | crazyfingers | *band |
| 02:15.50 | crazyfingers | damn it |
| 02:16.05 | RodOfNOD | iwasnt aware u could actually change the terrain by trigger |
| 02:16.13 | Dustin| | You cant yet |
| 02:16.18 | Dustin| | But I want to :P |
| 02:16.27 | Dustin| | then I could create a badass map |
| 02:16.37 | progammer | Dustin|: worm ? |
| 02:16.37 | RodOfNOD | well u could fake it with a unit that was basically a squre texture |
| 02:16.40 | crazyfingers | hmm, i remember there being real time terrain deforming a while ago |
| 02:16.40 | progammer | try worm 3d |
| 02:16.42 | crazyfingers | may be possible |
| 02:16.53 | progammer | using actor can deform terrain |
| 02:16.59 | Dustin| | Eww Worms 3D sucked |
| 02:17.03 | progammer | but detect it without trgger seems hard |
| 02:17.10 | Dustin| | That wont work |
| 02:17.15 | Dustin| | I need a 2d style plane |
| 02:17.17 | progammer | Dustin|: its most fitting for sc2 |
| 02:17.22 | Dustin| | I wanted to use like Cliff Levels |
| 02:17.27 | progammer | killing terrain wont work like that |
| 02:17.31 | progammer | cliff cant be dynamic |
| 02:17.32 | Dustin| | But you can dynamically add and remove levels |
| 02:17.36 | Dustin| | I know |
| 02:17.39 | Dustin| | I found that out |
| 02:17.41 | Tordy | hi Dustin| |
| 02:17.46 | Dustin| | Hey |
| 02:17.55 | wOlfLinG | 1: Make a massive wall covering all the stage |
| 02:18.06 | wOlfLinG | 2) Create small 1x1x1 doodads |
| 02:18.22 | wOlfLinG | Then position them all to make a hill etc |
| 02:18.32 | wOlfLinG | Then move the camera down to horizontally |
| 02:18.38 | wOlfLinG | Then add worms and play :) |
| 02:18.59 | Dustin| | I dont see how that would look good :P |
| 02:19.00 | progammer | would be very creative to have good terrain that way |
| 02:19.09 | progammer | but possible |
| 02:19.10 | wOlfLinG | it would if they were really tiny |
| 02:19.16 | Dustin| | If I could jsut grab texture of a point |
| 02:19.22 | Dustin| | It'd be easy as fuck and look good |
| 02:19.39 | wOlfLinG | Plus you could have it a load of actors and only a few 1x1x1 blocks |
| 02:19.53 | progammer | Dustin|: lag like hell if you have many unit on screen at once |
| 02:19.56 | wOlfLinG | Then when some get killed, make some where they should be |
| 02:20.02 | progammer | look at my realtime mouse tracking for example |
| 02:20.15 | Dustin| | Ya lag would be bad |
| 02:20.17 | progammer | (which is gonna thrash since 1.2) |
| 02:20.23 | Dustin| | Ya I was working on one of those to |
| 02:20.33 | Dustin| | But it lagged my computer to bad so I couldnt debug it anymore :P |
| 02:20.45 | progammer | how precise you go |
| 02:20.52 | Dustin| | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/843426/WormsConcept.png |
| 02:20.53 | progammer | i run 1.0 no problem |
| 02:20.58 | Dustin| | That was my original concept |
| 02:21.13 | Dustin| | But Terrain deforming isnt very dynamic |
| 02:22.16 | crazyfingers | that concept is entirely too sexual to be taken seriously |
| 02:22.22 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 02:22.39 | Tordy | dustin browder? |
| 02:22.40 | Tordy | :o |
| 02:22.48 | Dustin| | Im not Dustin Browder damnit! |
| 02:22.58 | Tordy | how does that 2d view work |
| 02:23.02 | wOlfLinG | Dustin| Browder then! |
| 02:23.06 | crazyfingers | this is dustin browder's alter ego, he likes gay tanks |
| 02:23.10 | wOlfLinG | LOL |
| 02:23.20 | Xaragoth | lol crazy |
| 02:23.23 | Dustin| | Tordy it's just a camera at 90 degrees straight down |
| 02:23.27 | Dustin| | like on my Top Down Fighters map |
| 02:23.29 | progammer | i have to post this http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/sc2mapster/large/149.jpg |
| 02:23.31 | wOlfLinG | Pretty pink unicorn hunter xD |
| 02:24.16 | crazyfingers | frofl |
| 02:24.32 | crazyfingers | the artist alter ego does exist! |
| 02:24.37 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 02:24.59 | wOlfLinG | Brian is a mild mannered artist by day and a crime fighting designer by night xD |
| 02:25.32 | Xaragoth | yeah |
| 02:25.35 | progammer | rolf guitar |
| 02:25.39 | wOlfLinG | xD |
| 02:25.41 | Xaragoth | game developer are pretty crazy ^^ |
| 02:25.47 | Tordy | hi wOlfLinG |
| 02:25.54 | wOlfLinG | hiya tordz |
| 02:26.21 | wOlfLinG | Guh -.- I want a new PC |
| 02:26.47 | wOlfLinG | Right now i'm running a linux system cause all others break on it, and i can't run the editor |
| 02:26.52 | wOlfLinG | Only thing i can run is wiw :/ |
| 02:26.55 | wOlfLinG | wow* |
| 02:28.07 | Bibendus | holy shitz |
| 02:28.14 | Tordy | technical difficulties are so funny |
| 02:28.24 | Bibendus | now i must find |
| 02:28.26 | Bibendus | the angle |
| 02:28.35 | Bibendus | between the camera and the clicked point |
| 02:28.36 | Bibendus | :O |
| 02:28.47 | Bibendus | can i see the position of the player camera? |
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| 02:29.05 | Dustin| | I think so |
| 02:29.37 | Dustin| | I wish the camera was jsut based on Camera Position, Target Position, Pitch / Roll |
| 02:29.38 | wOlfLinG | If not, you're screwed xD |
| 02:29.46 | Dustin| | Then let us move it how we want |
| 02:30.07 | Dustin| | I just dont find the camera system intuitive at all |
| 02:30.27 | Tordy | im still confused |
| 02:30.36 | ShadowTaisho | how is everyone today? |
| 02:30.47 | RodOfNOD | justducky |
| 02:31.41 | ShadowTaisho | hey rod ever get the spawning pool to workthe way u want it with pathing? |
| 02:32.21 | wOlfLinG | lol, theres some wow chars behind the d on the screen xD |
| 02:32.25 | wOlfLinG | Playing music xD |
| 02:32.44 | crazyfingers | that song was pretty damned good |
| 02:32.51 | crazyfingers | for a D song |
| 02:33.30 | RodOfNOD | lol no ShadowTaisho but ididntkeeptrying have more important shit to crank on atm |
| 02:34.01 | progammer | RodOfNOD: u make smt like total sc1 conversion ? |
| 02:34.42 | Dustin| | Anyone want to see if my Top Down Fighters Map plays better on bnet now? |
| 02:34.55 | RodOfNOD | ? progammer? |
| 02:35.09 | progammer | asking if you're doing a project like sc1 mods |
| 02:35.21 | RodOfNOD | yes withskiz and soundsnc from project revo |
| 02:35.46 | RodOfNOD | im writing all the data files inside of excel lol |
| 02:35.59 | Bibendus | camera target of player |
| 02:36.01 | Bibendus | is that? |
| 02:37.18 | Tordy | DIABLO FANS WHERE U AT |
| 02:37.47 | Xaragoth | The Metal! |
| 02:37.48 | Xaragoth | :> |
| 02:38.02 | Xaragoth | could use some arthas crown though |
| 02:38.10 | wOlfLinG | yeah ^^ |
| 02:38.28 | wOlfLinG | Arthas is the metal! When he dies, the new Deathwing metal shall arise! xD |
| 02:38.37 | wOlfLinG | Aka, gets pwnier every time! |
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| 02:38.43 | Zara | guys... anyone tried to color the guardian shield effect? i tried to set the tint but it becomes invisible |
| 02:38.47 | Tordy | is your name bill by any chance |
| 02:39.11 | RodOfNOD | using event zara? |
| 02:39.19 | Zara | ya actor |
| 02:39.27 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 02:39.40 | Tordy | DIABLO FANS WHERE U AT |
| 02:39.44 | Zara | actorcreation if (has behavior) set tint |
| 02:39.56 | progammer | now the arthas |
| 02:39.58 | Zara | why rod? |
| 02:39.59 | Xaragoth | LOOOOOOOOOOL |
| 02:40.00 | Xaragoth | xD |
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| 02:41.13 | wOlfLinG | TORDY, THEY ARE A MYTH! |
| 02:41.27 | Dryeyece | so I made my first boss right, and he was boring so I beefed him up and gave him some special mewves right now i cant kill him LOL |
| 02:41.32 | Tordy | STARCRAFT FANS WHERE U AT |
| 02:41.40 | wOlfLinG | HEAR! |
| 02:41.48 | Tordy | WARCRAFT FANS WHERE U AT |
| 02:42.02 | crazyfingers | Tordy are you drunk? |
| 02:42.10 | crazyfingers | because i'm not nearly drunk enough to respond to you |
| 02:42.14 | Tordy | :/ |
| 02:42.17 | crazyfingers | :D |
| 02:42.23 | Dustin| | Speaking of fucked up |
| 02:42.24 | Dustin| | bowl time |
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| 02:42.43 | RodOfNOD | cnc fans where u at!!!! < right here |
| 02:42.58 | crazyfingers | i enjoy me some diablo from time to times |
| 02:43.02 | crazyfingers | haha rod |
| 02:43.08 | asdf123 | anyone here good or creative with the terrain editor? i need some terrain done for a map and i am not very artistic |
| 02:43.17 | Tordy | DUSTIN BROWDER FANS WHERE U AT |
| 02:43.23 | Zara | rod? why u asked that? |
| 02:43.24 | RodOfNOD | asdf123 first off get a real name |
| 02:43.27 | Dustin| | NOT HERE |
| 02:43.35 | RodOfNOD | second the way u get good is by trying alot |
| 02:43.38 | Dustin| | Rod |
| 02:43.40 | asdf123 | rodofnod |
| 02:43.45 | Dustin| | You hungout at wc3 campaigns right |
| 02:44.00 | RodOfNOD | well i wanted to make sure u were using event not just the field that does nothing |
| 02:44.05 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 02:44.11 | RodOfNOD | i Dustin| |
| 02:44.12 | asdf123 | do you know if it's possible with the web irc client to filter out all text someone says? |
| 02:44.21 | Dustin| | This is TEC_Ghost from there ;) |
| 02:44.29 | Zara | well whenever i apply tint |
| 02:44.33 | Zara | it becomes invisible |
| 02:44.40 | Tordy | the guardian shield? |
| 02:44.44 | crazyfingers | have you adjusted tint values? |
| 02:44.48 | Tordy | that's because the guardian shield |
| 02:45.13 | Zara | ya |
| 02:45.17 | Zara | it becomes transparent |
| 02:45.22 | crazyfingers | like values all above 1? |
| 02:45.33 | crazyfingers | someimtes you have to play with it |
| 02:45.33 | Zara | with just a little bit of colour on the border |
| 02:45.37 | Zara | but nearly invisible |
| 02:45.44 | crazyfingers | try upping the values |
| 02:45.47 | crazyfingers | big time |
| 02:46.00 | RodOfNOD | zara set the color to white and hdr to 1 |
| 02:46.05 | RodOfNOD | see what if it still goes by bye |
| 02:46.19 | Zara | hdr? |
| 02:46.23 | Zara | u mean multiplier? |
| 02:46.25 | crazyfingers | high dynamic range |
| 02:46.31 | Cintiq | progammer, you around? Sent you an email last night |
| 02:46.41 | Zara | where is that? |
| 02:47.06 | crazyfingers | where all the settings are in the set tint i think |
| 02:47.13 | crazyfingers | probably at the bottom |
| 02:47.22 | progammer | Cintiq: ok will check |
| 02:48.07 | Zara | tryint this |
| 02:49.09 | Zara | i hate the localized editor |
| 02:49.18 | Zara | one of the more stupid things EVAH |
| 02:49.32 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 02:49.51 | Zara | like if french people calls if statement "si" |
| 02:50.06 | Zara | or italian people calls "cambia" the switch statement |
| 02:50.12 | Zara | yeah, my as |
| 02:50.20 | RodOfNOD | zara the HDR is in the same spot u pick the color |
| 02:50.32 | Zara | yes it's a float value |
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| 02:53.44 | progammer | lol this song |
| 02:54.09 | Mephs | 1400! |
| 02:54.19 | Xaragoth | this one is good |
| 02:54.20 | wOlfLinG | lol, slightly gay devil xD |
| 02:54.24 | Tordy | to `1400!! |
| 02:54.29 | Mephs | huzzah! |
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| 02:54.37 | crazyfingers | the devil's always been a little metro |
| 02:56.14 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 02:56.21 | wOlfLinG | thats a pretty funny song xD |
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| 02:57.10 | crazyfingers | haha, i don't know where they found this devil guy, but he's pretty good |
| 02:57.12 | Xaragoth | but the devil is medicore in his singing |
| 02:57.24 | crazyfingers | :P |
| 02:57.56 | wOlfLinG | may go to bed soon |
| 02:58.00 | wOlfLinG | sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy |
| 02:58.12 | wOlfLinG|Sleeeee | :/ |
| 02:58.38 | wOlfLinG|Sleeepy | thats better |
| 02:59.29 | Tordy | hi wOlfLinG|Sleeepy |
| 02:59.40 | wOlfLinG|Sleeepy | by*snore* |
| 02:59.57 | wOlfLinG|Sleeepy | yeah, bed time now :/ |
| 03:00.04 | Tordy | nooooo |
| 03:00.13 | Xaragoth | there comes the magic |
| 03:00.13 | wOlfLinG|Asleep | zzzz |
| 03:02.01 | wOlfLinG|Asleep | Well, gnight peeps! |
| 03:02.12 | Xaragoth | night |
| 03:02.29 | wOlfLinG|Asleep | 4am is too late to stay up 2 nights in a row -.- |
| 03:02.48 | wOlfLinG|Asleep | Especially when theres school tomorrow xD. aka, 28 hours |
| 03:02.53 | Tordy | dont do it man! |
| 03:03.07 | wOlfLinG|Asleep | Already closed the D's tab :P |
| 03:03.16 | Tordy | :[ |
| 03:03.26 | wOlfLinG|Asleep | Now to sleezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*snore* |
| 03:03.28 | Xaragoth | there is no force in the world that will stop you from your fate now! |
| 03:03.44 | wOlfLinG|Asleep | Sleeping? Good |
| 03:03.44 | Xaragoth | your death will be horrible! |
| 03:03.47 | wOlfLinG|Asleep | meh |
| 03:03.51 | wOlfLinG|Asleep | Happens all the time |
| 03:04.28 | wOlfLinG|Asleep | also, bye! I'm now officially asleep! |
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| 03:15.14 | Zara | well I'm not so proud to announce |
| 03:15.25 | Zara | that white hdr 1.0 makes it invisible once again rod |
| 03:15.42 | Xaragoth | prog |
| 03:15.51 | Xaragoth | did they just cut the stream when they left the stage? |
| 03:16.31 | Mephs | asdf |
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| 03:16.48 | Xaragoth | it simply froze |
| 03:17.11 | Mephs | what are you talking about |
| 03:17.19 | Mephs | this more nerdcon shit? |
| 03:18.22 | Zara | shitcon |
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| 03:19.14 | progammer_ | Xaragoth: yeah just cut, very bm |
| 03:19.17 | Zara | yes soooooo we are blizzard and well... we announce that we have copied almost all the best project of the mappers community but we will make them better |
| 03:19.35 | Zara | because we have gain something like 2 billions per week |
| 03:19.44 | Zara | and we can hire a lot of artists and coders |
| 03:22.08 | Zara | but well don't cry and read the EULA once more |
| 03:22.34 | Mephs | also, lolpopularity |
| 03:22.35 | Zara | every time you will read it you'll feel a strange pain in your ass |
| 03:22.45 | Mephs | i'm highly debating just saying fuck custom maps at this point |
| 03:22.57 | Mephs | cuz blizzard can and will take everyone's best ideas, market them and profit 100% off your creativy |
| 03:23.13 | Zara | fuck blizzard is the right way |
| 03:23.15 | Xaragoth | I don't mind, they can just hire me and get more epicness. |
| 03:23.26 | Xaragoth | because seriously |
| 03:23.30 | Mephs | xaragoth: yeah that epic 35k/yr they pay you will totally be worth making them richer |
| 03:23.32 | Xaragoth | their level designers at the panel |
| 03:23.45 | progammer_ | they took my chess idea and put it in bdota |
| 03:23.47 | Mephs | thats the offer eck got lol |
| 03:23.50 | Mephs | 40k/yr? somethin like that |
| 03:24.02 | Xaragoth | Mephs: Yes, it will. Why? Because at least you got time for your stuff and don't throw out shit every 3 years, just because you have to. |
| 03:24.10 | Xaragoth | It's one of the most secured Jobs in the Industry. |
| 03:24.17 | crazyfingers | eh, don't get carried away programmer, chess isn't exactly a unique idea in games :P |
| 03:24.23 | Mephs | so are real tech jobs that actually pay you to do something useful! |
| 03:24.31 | Mephs | and there's real opportunity in a real career |
| 03:24.34 | Tordy | wait eck got a job!? |
| 03:24.38 | progammer_ | no but chess in starcraft does |
| 03:24.39 | Tordy | he really did? |
| 03:24.40 | Mephs | what you want to make 35k/yr for the next 10 yrs living in an apartment? |
| 03:24.45 | Mephs | but hey your job's stable! |
| 03:24.47 | Mephs | you design levels! |
| 03:24.58 | Mephs | they're fuckin corporate at this point |
| 03:24.58 | Tordy | i dont care, 35k and stable is what i really need right now |
| 03:25.04 | Mephs | ._. |
| 03:25.06 | Xaragoth | Indeed. |
| 03:25.08 | Tordy | since it's so hard to find jobs :[ |
| 03:25.11 | Mephs | you guys got some low standards |
| 03:25.16 | Tordy | hi Mephs |
| 03:25.18 | Mephs | hi torday |
| 03:25.25 | Tordy | Mephs i feel bad for you :( |
| 03:25.25 | Xaragoth | Yes, we do. No bugger off. |
| 03:25.27 | crazyfingers | 35k is almost embarassing for skilled labor |
| 03:25.29 | Zara | I prefer to sell my ass |
| 03:25.32 | Mephs | exactly |
| 03:25.34 | Mephs | 35k is grunt work |
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| 03:25.38 | Zara | indeed it's a similar way to make money |
| 03:25.40 | crazyfingers | i'd reject it out of principle regardless of whether i could live off of it |
| 03:25.55 | Xaragoth | well, depends on what 35k we're talking here |
| 03:26.05 | Mephs | shit even the entry level developers in corporate who write for loops for a fucking print process make more than that |
| 03:26.05 | Xaragoth | $ or ? |
| 03:26.05 | Mephs | $ |
| 03:26.05 | Tordy | that left 2 die map might make your map obsolete in the eyes of the community :/ |
| 03:26.05 | Xaragoth | because in it's pretty good. |
| 03:26.09 | Tordy | and your map never got popular enough |
| 03:26.10 | Tordy | :( |
| 03:26.12 | Mephs | the cubicle monkeys make more than 35k/yr lol |
| 03:26.17 | Mephs | yea i stopped bumping it |
| 03:26.21 | Tordy | i liked your map |
| 03:26.29 | Tordy | looks like yous pent a lot of work on it |
| 03:26.35 | Tordy | all those graphics were nice |
| 03:26.43 | Tordy | one of the best for non-blizz map standards |
| 03:26.45 | Tordy | :] |
| 03:26.52 | Mephs | cool, ppl rather play nexus wars all day tho |
| 03:26.53 | Xaragoth | the terrain was horrible though :> |
| 03:26.54 | Tordy | so where's eck |
| 03:26.55 | Zara | I think that the ONLY way we have to fuck blizzard is to join all together and create a big mappers team |
| 03:26.57 | Mephs | yea it was XD |
| 03:27.02 | Zara | release fucking good customs |
| 03:27.02 | Mephs | i'm not an artist, i'm a fuckin developer |
| 03:27.05 | Jum-Jum | you guys complain about nexus wars all the time |
| 03:27.07 | Xaragoth | which kills a lot of the mood. |
| 03:27.10 | Jum-Jum | but fail to realize why people play it |
| 03:27.14 | Mephs | the only way we'll see the good maps |
| 03:27.14 | Zara | and keep the level high enough to compete with them |
| 03:27.22 | Xaragoth | Level Design is actually a sub-part of Game Design, just saying. |
| 03:27.22 | Mephs | is if they remove the fuckin pop system |
| 03:27.26 | Jum-Jum | its easy to play, you understand the game instantly, and its fun for the average gamer |
| 03:27.27 | Mephs | yea i'm not a game designer |
| 03:27.34 | Mephs | i write test software for proprietary hardware xara |
| 03:27.36 | Mephs | :p |
| 03:27.49 | Mephs | i can design everything else relatively good, but i need a mapper/UI artist |
| 03:27.51 | Xaragoth | You're one of those guys we put in closets than. |
| 03:27.52 | Mephs | which...i just so happen to have! |
| 03:27.59 | Jum-Jum | i felt that most things blizz said were pretty self explainatory |
| 03:28.07 | Mephs | i'm teamin up with the Retribution TD guy |
| 03:28.09 | Jum-Jum | except for the part where they said you should have a early version out asap |
| 03:28.10 | Tordy | jsut creating a game is pretty tough work since it's hard to get the game designers and game programmers coop together |
| 03:28.12 | Jum-Jum | to see if the game is any fun |
| 03:28.13 | Mephs | so my next map's terrain wont suck so bad ;p |
| 03:28.16 | Mephs | promise! |
| 03:28.16 | Xaragoth | I'd have liked them to step up and do shit on the panel though. |
| 03:28.24 | Jum-Jum | im the kind of guy who wants the map to be perfected when i release it :S |
| 03:28.36 | Xaragoth | It will still suck, because it will not be on a level I deem apropiate. But than again, most stuff isn't xP |
| 03:28.38 | Tordy | wish that data editor guy would come here :[ |
| 03:28.48 | Tordy | we need another PM |
| 03:28.50 | Mephs | well i'm not surprised |
| 03:28.51 | Tordy | since PM is never here |
| 03:28.55 | Mephs | someone good at art thinking 35k/yr is good :p |
| 03:28.59 | Mephs | XD! |
| 03:29.01 | crazyfingers | ah, i thought you wanted to kick his ass tordy |
| 03:29.06 | Tordy | what |
| 03:29.08 | Tordy | who |
| 03:29.08 | Mephs | artists lucky to make 10k/yr! |
| 03:29.14 | Jum-Jum | if i was that data editor guy i would not want to be in here, getting questions 24/7 lol |
| 03:29.15 | Xaragoth | 35k is a shitton of money, forget we're talking $ here |
| 03:29.24 | Mephs | yea sorry i only think in terms of america cuz i'm a fat american |
| 03:29.25 | Tordy | yea i suppose |
| 03:29.32 | Mephs | :> |
| 03:29.35 | Tordy | he'd prob be asked a lot of the game's internal stuff too |
| 03:29.42 | Tordy | which would bother him |
| 03:29.44 | Xaragoth | If I was a Blizz guy |
| 03:29.47 | crazyfingers | 35k is enough to scrape by where i live |
| 03:29.52 | Xaragoth | I would stay as far away from you folks as I can |
| 03:29.54 | Mephs | jum: we have one of those guys in here, and he gets questions 24/7 already |
| 03:29.56 | Tordy | :( |
| 03:29.58 | Xaragoth | Because all of the free time I don't work on a game |
| 03:30.01 | Mephs | his name is prozaicmuze |
| 03:30.02 | Xaragoth | I'd be annoyed by you |
| 03:30.07 | Mephs | i just feign ignorance so i dont get the questions |
| 03:30.09 | Tordy | :((( |
| 03:30.13 | Jum-Jum | I know Mephs, so imagine someone who actually made the data editor |
| 03:30.16 | crazyfingers | if i were a blizz dude, i would have instructions threatening my job to keep me away from this forum |
| 03:30.20 | Xaragoth | I only answer interesting stuff by now |
| 03:30.29 | Xaragoth | because all the new guys asking for a cave here or something |
| 03:30.30 | Mephs | lol PM gave me a challenge |
| 03:30.32 | Jum-Jum | his computer would explode with all the excesssive text messages of "how to do..." |
| 03:30.32 | Xaragoth | are just not worth my time |
| 03:30.32 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 03:30.35 | Zara | 10k/yr here you don't even buy enough water to wash your ass |
| 03:30.41 | Mephs | remember the ultralisk with ultralisk tentacles that spit raynors that spit acid that spit novas that nuke shit |
| 03:30.44 | Mephs | i'm going to make it a reality |
| 03:30.46 | Mephs | just to show him |
| 03:30.48 | Mephs | i know my shit |
| 03:30.53 | Mephs | 100% in data editor, no less |
| 03:30.55 | Rodrigo | who is thenewboston? this name sounds familiar. He is playing Debates with me right now |
| 03:30.56 | Tordy | the salary depends on the standard of living of wher you live |
| 03:31.05 | Tordy | i think you can get by w/ 30k here |
| 03:31.12 | Tordy | but if you live in saaay silicon valley |
| 03:31.16 | Mephs | in third world countries like england i guess so |
| 03:31.17 | Tordy | better have at least 80k or some shit |
| 03:31.20 | Jum-Jum | never heard of him Rodrigo, i only lurk on irc mostly tho |
| 03:31.21 | Mephs | ! |
| 03:31.21 | Xaragoth | with 35k in my region, i'd probably have a good living for the rest of my life |
| 03:31.27 | Xaragoth | would buy me a car every month, roughly |
| 03:31.31 | Mephs | lol |
| 03:31.35 | Mephs | shit |
| 03:31.37 | Xaragoth | not a big one |
| 03:31.39 | Xaragoth | but still a car |
| 03:31.40 | Xaragoth | <3 |
| 03:31.42 | Mephs | sounds nice. the commute would suck |
| 03:31.50 | Mephs | but i guess my current salary would rape |
| 03:31.53 | Tordy | 60k right out of college sounds a bit optimistic right? |
| 03:31.53 | Mephs | over there |
| 03:31.59 | Tordy | very optimistic |
| 03:32.01 | Mephs | tordy: i started 50k |
| 03:32.07 | Mephs | no degree, just entry level shit |
| 03:32.10 | Xaragoth | just take EU payments |
| 03:32.15 | Xaragoth | and do them with *10 |
| 03:32.18 | Tordy | 60k for say the average graduate |
| 03:32.18 | crazyfingers | 60 k, depends on your degree |
| 03:32.19 | Xaragoth | you roughly get US |
| 03:32.20 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 03:32.26 | crazyfingers | programming that's pretty conservative |
| 03:32.27 | Mephs | 50k is avg entry level with a degree |
| 03:32.29 | Mephs | depending on where you go |
| 03:32.35 | Tordy | waht noo way |
| 03:32.37 | Mephs | yahh way |
| 03:32.40 | Tordy | soudns waaay too optimistic |
| 03:32.47 | Mephs | again |
| 03:32.47 | Xaragoth | depends on what your job is |
| 03:32.50 | Mephs | it depends what you're actually doing |
| 03:32.54 | Mephs | i was their lead developer for 2 years |
| 03:32.54 | crazyfingers | If you can get hired, not really |
| 03:32.59 | Mephs | and eventually got bumped upupupup |
| 03:33.03 | crazyfingers | but it's hard to find a degree job these days |
| 03:33.06 | Tordy | you see you're waaay above average |
| 03:33.07 | Xaragoth | good thing about the game industry |
| 03:33.13 | Xaragoth | once you got a title |
| 03:33.16 | Xaragoth | it sticks |
| 03:33.18 | Mephs | game industry: low pay, long hours, your life is miserable. |
| 03:33.19 | Tordy | :[ |
| 03:33.21 | Mephs | steer clear. |
| 03:33.26 | Xaragoth | yeah, it is. |
| 03:33.27 | Mephs | unless you're the project manager. |
| 03:33.27 | crazyfingers | good or bad depending on which side of the door you're on |
| 03:33.29 | Tordy | eya taht's what i heard |
| 03:33.32 | Tordy | 80 hour weeks or some shit |
| 03:33.33 | Xaragoth | at least I do what I'm good at :p |
| 03:33.40 | Mephs | if you're a grunt developer or modeller |
| 03:33.42 | Xaragoth | wouldn't wanna do anything else, really |
| 03:33.43 | Mephs | 80 hr weeks! |
| 03:33.43 | Tordy | not to mention crunch time |
| 03:33.48 | Xaragoth | well, maybe sleeping all day |
| 03:33.51 | grim001 | Mephs what kind of job got you 50k entry level with no degree? |
| 03:33.55 | Mephs | i got lucky |
| 03:34.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster BubbaJimBoBob (~BubaJimBo@174-31-80-45.spkn.qwest.net) |
| 03:34.01 | Tordy | you better be damn lucky |
| 03:34.04 | Mephs | i actually started contract with this random company as their web developer |
| 03:34.05 | Tordy | damn i wish i was lucky :/ |
| 03:34.07 | Mephs | @ 20/hr |
| 03:34.08 | Xaragoth | good way of saying "my boss is an idiot" |
| 03:34.23 | grim001 | damn I'd like to take a 20/hr job right about now |
| 03:34.31 | Mephs | we had a software developer that up and walked out one day |
| 03:34.36 | Mephs | and my boss is ilke |
| 03:34.37 | Zara | grim ---> working in a bank like I do |
| 03:34.39 | Mephs | here's a book on how this works |
| 03:34.43 | Mephs | figure it out in a week and we'll give you a raise |
| 03:34.44 | Mephs | and i did |
| 03:34.59 | Mephs | and then i ended up doing java for their security software |
| 03:34.59 | Jum-Jum | gg |
| 03:35.02 | grim001 | Zara what kind of position? |
| 03:35.23 | Mephs | probably a loan dude if he makes good money |
| 03:35.25 | Mephs | clerks dont make much |
| 03:35.29 | Mephs | or a financer |
| 03:35.30 | Zara | grim low-medium level back office |
| 03:35.45 | Mephs | i dont know shit about banks, i just know they steal your money |
| 03:36.06 | Zara | mephs you are from? |
| 03:36.20 | Mephs | AMERICA, you son of a sausage licker |
| 03:36.44 | Xaragoth | well |
| 03:36.48 | Xaragoth | your banks failed pretty good |
| 03:36.52 | Xaragoth | no wonder you hate them |
| 03:36.53 | Xaragoth | :P |
| 03:36.53 | Mephs | yea no shit |
| 03:36.57 | Zara | I don't like american banks model |
| 03:37.01 | Xaragoth | we got greece for that |
| 03:37.01 | Xaragoth | xD |
| 03:37.03 | Mephs | hey least we get guns to go all postal and shit |
| 03:37.05 | Mephs | you guys all livin in the stone age |
| 03:37.09 | Mephs | with your knives and chavs and shit |
| 03:37.21 | Xaragoth | hey |
| 03:37.25 | Xaragoth | we started 2 world wars |
| 03:37.29 | Tordy | im riCH bIATCH!!! |
| 03:37.31 | Xaragoth | do that and come back to me! |
| 03:37.31 | Xaragoth | :P |
| 03:37.40 | Mephs | and we finished both of them for ya! |
| 03:37.42 | Zara | I work in a cooperative bank, in italy, based on a "produce and distribute" model |
| 03:37.42 | Mephs | panzies. |
| 03:37.54 | Xaragoth | bad leadership, what can I say |
| 03:37.57 | Mephs | XD |
| 03:37.59 | Xaragoth | but than again |
| 03:38.01 | Xaragoth | we got nukes now |
| 03:38.06 | Xaragoth | you guys are the first to go in a new WW |
| 03:38.08 | Xaragoth | that's for sure |
| 03:38.08 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 03:38.12 | Mephs | pff |
| 03:38.15 | Mephs | we got ilke 100x the nukes you do |
| 03:38.20 | Xaragoth | right |
| 03:38.21 | Xaragoth | that's why |
| 03:38.21 | Mephs | i like how we want to de-nuclearize the world |
| 03:38.31 | Mephs | but we keep all of them pointed at the rest of the world anyway! |
| 03:38.31 | Zara | we are forced to redistribute 10% of anual gains to the local community |
| 03:39.00 | Mephs | i fully accept that, being the dicks we are to the rest of the world, we're bound to get what's coming to us soon |
| 03:39.03 | Xaragoth | well |
| 03:39.05 | Xaragoth | you got nukes |
| 03:39.08 | Xaragoth | you're left alone |
| 03:39.10 | Xaragoth | see china |
| 03:39.10 | Mephs | until that day I will salute the american flag as I run with my tail between my fuckin legs to canada |
| 03:39.13 | Xaragoth | human rights? lolz. |
| 03:39.40 | Mephs | and once i cross the border i'll be all like haha, noobs |
| 03:39.44 | Zara | buying hospital furnitures or helping repairing old monuments |
| 03:39.53 | Mephs | you'll see it in world news. Mephs trolls the world |
| 03:39.59 | Zara | so yes, we steal money like everyone else, but at least we redistribute a bit |
| 03:40.09 | Mephs | to your shareholders? |
| 03:40.17 | Xaragoth | stealing money is actually where it's at |
| 03:40.20 | Xaragoth | because seriously |
| 03:40.22 | Mephs | easier than earning it |
| 03:40.24 | Xaragoth | we got 100 years, at most |
| 03:40.33 | Xaragoth | and we waste the best half working |
| 03:40.45 | Mephs | in 100 yrs we'll be able to create anything from free energy |
| 03:40.47 | Xaragoth | and the rest of the time we're just wasting away, without the good part of it |
| 03:40.53 | Mephs | so problem solved |
| 03:40.53 | Zara | not to shareholders, to the community in which the banks works |
| 03:41.00 | Zara | it's a localized model |
| 03:41.04 | Xaragoth | so ... let's make it a blast, while we're here, for ourselfs |
| 03:41.08 | grim001 | some of the people in this chat room are probably smart enough to make money way more efficiently online than with an irl job |
| 03:41.11 | Xaragoth | fuck the rest, why would we care? |
| 03:41.37 | Mephs | yea that takes effort tho grim |
| 03:41.45 | Mephs | rather just masturbate and fall asleep in a bag of cheetos |
| 03:42.05 | crazyfingers | i make good money masturbating into bags of cheetos |
| 03:42.11 | Mephs | no no no |
| 03:42.13 | crazyfingers | how do you think they get the orange to stick? |
| 03:42.17 | Mephs | gah |
| 03:42.23 | grim001 | mephs, the idea is to make a bunch of money so that you don't have to continue working for your whole life |
| 03:42.31 | Mephs | oh |
| 03:42.33 | Mephs | i think i have one of those |
| 03:42.39 | Mephs | idk tho |
| 03:42.42 | Mephs | too complicated |
| 03:42.45 | Xaragoth | I call my idea "Lets make WAR" |
| 03:42.52 | Xaragoth | It's easy. |
| 03:43.02 | Xaragoth | Make War ??? Profit. |
| 03:43.14 | Mephs | also grim: how many ppl actually become internet billionaires |
| 03:43.22 | crazyfingers | I'll soon be walking away with a peice of paper in game design entitiling me to 60 thousand dollars of debt and little employment options :D |
| 03:43.26 | Mephs | out of how many ppl go broke because their internet business fails |
| 03:43.30 | Mephs | and they bank everything on it |
| 03:43.33 | grim001 | anyone here that has software development skills and ingenuity could make a ton by developing some niche software and marketing it online properly |
| 03:43.38 | grim001 | but yes, it's a lot of effort |
| 03:43.41 | Mephs | problem is |
| 03:43.53 | Mephs | that "market" of niche markets is saturated beyond all belief |
| 03:43.58 | Mephs | its not as simple as you make it out to be |
| 03:44.01 | grim001 | mephs, internet businesses don't require much start up capital compared to standard ones |
| 03:44.11 | Mephs | except the fact you dont' work |
| 03:44.14 | Mephs | thus you make little income if any |
| 03:44.20 | Zara | grim they requires a LOT of time or skills |
| 03:44.22 | Mephs | until your business takes off |
| 03:44.29 | Mephs | and then you have to pay for advertising too |
| 03:44.35 | Mephs | unless you get super lucky like fuckerberg |
| 03:44.41 | Mephs | its really a game of luck |
| 03:44.49 | Mephs | there were a million myspace ripoffs back then |
| 03:44.52 | Tordy | someones mad at facebook's ceo |
| 03:44.57 | Mephs | when everyone heard the myspace guy got paid back |
| 03:44.59 | Zara | two possibilities: you work fast hiring staff / it takes you 2 years to make a 2D client by yourself working solo |
| 03:45.00 | Mephs | er got bought out |
| 03:45.04 | grim001 | I think you've already got a big bag of excuses before thinking very hard about it |
| 03:45.13 | grim001 | there are some extremely niche markets that aren't saturated at all |
| 03:45.19 | Mephs | no i speak with experience |
| 03:45.21 | Mephs | grim |
| 03:45.24 | Mephs | sry i should have clarified that |
| 03:45.32 | Mephs | i did web dev/SEO independently for years |
| 03:45.37 | Jum-Jum | lets not forget minecraft |
| 03:45.45 | grim001 | neat |
| 03:45.50 | grim001 | how did it work out for you? |
| 03:45.54 | Mephs | great, i got paid a lot |
| 03:46.02 | Mephs | i even got one guy's site to page 1 on google for a good 6 months |
| 03:46.14 | grim001 | if you can pull that, you should be SEOing your own pages to the top |
| 03:46.15 | Mephs | fact is i have tried several ideas |
| 03:46.25 | Mephs | even SEO'ing to page 1, you have to maintain it |
| 03:46.34 | Mephs | and it also depends what TERMS you're talking about |
| 03:46.37 | Mephs | problem with that guy's site |
| 03:46.41 | Mephs | we got him to page 1 for the terms he wanted me to |
| 03:46.47 | Mephs | "koi fish aquariums" |
| 03:46.52 | Mephs | you know how many people search that term? |
| 03:46.54 | Mephs | like 20. |
| 03:46.57 | Mephs | so yea lmao |
| 03:47.06 | grim001 | ofc much easier to SEO niche terms like that |
| 03:47.09 | Mephs | the stats are out there |
| 03:47.18 | Mephs | maybe 1 in a few million sites becomes a smash hit |
| 03:47.22 | Mephs | like facebook |
| 03:47.29 | Mephs | thats' about 2.9mil that fail |
| 03:47.33 | Mephs | odds are very stacked against you |
| 03:47.43 | grim001 | mephs, I'm not talking about starting a popular website |
| 03:47.47 | grim001 | that has nothing to do with it at all |
| 03:47.50 | Mephs | that's internet business though |
| 03:47.53 | grim001 | no it's not |
| 03:47.57 | grim001 | that's just one of many varied business models |
| 03:47.58 | Mephs | the idea is to get a site so popular that you can sell advertising for a premium |
| 03:48.06 | Mephs | a very MASSIVE premium |
| 03:48.23 | Mephs | cuz advertisers pay based on views/hits |
| 03:48.27 | grim001 | if you're only familiar with the most obvious business model of course you aren't going to see any opportunities out there |
| 03:48.36 | Mephs | what, i dont have a product to sell |
| 03:48.47 | Mephs | thats the only other kind of internet business |
| 03:48.53 | grim001 | why would you need your own product? |
| 03:49.02 | Mephs | i could scam/rip people off i suppose |
| 03:49.10 | Mephs | MAKE 100,000/HR FROM HOME |
| 03:49.13 | grim001 | there are plenty of existing products, plenty that arent even scams |
| 03:49.16 | Mephs | BUY MY CD AND ILL TELL YOU HOw |
| 03:49.38 | Mephs | grim i hope you have some actual hands-on experience with this stuff if you're professing so highly |
| 03:49.45 | grim001 | i do |
| 03:49.49 | Mephs | what do you do? |
| 03:50.18 | Tordy | âââââââââââââââ âââââ âââââââââââââââ âââââ âââââââââ |
| 03:50.18 | Mephs | disconnect a lot, i gather. |
| 03:50.45 | Tordy | do those make 100k/hr at home stuff every work |
| 03:50.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster grim001 (~chatzilla@c-68-42-57-147.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 03:50.47 | Tordy | every* |
| 03:50.51 | Tordy | ever |
| 03:50.53 | Tordy | :D |
| 03:50.57 | grim001 | got dced |
| 03:51.04 | Tordy | im guessing 1/1000 people get to that level |
| 03:51.11 | Tordy | the 999 not so much |
| 03:51.42 | Mephs | no they dont |
| 03:51.48 | Mephs | well actually |
| 03:51.52 | Mephs | they work for the guy who is selling it! |
| 03:52.13 | Mephs | so grim, what do you do? |
| 03:52.27 | grim001 | it's not very hard to be the 1/1000 guy... if you think about how stupid and lazy 99.9% of everyone is |
| 03:52.55 | Zara | guys... STOP |
| 03:53.00 | Tordy | well 90% yea |
| 03:53.09 | Zara | it's question moment |
| 03:53.11 | Tordy | but getting to the 99% mark is where the peopel arent as lazy as you think |
| 03:53.13 | Tordy | >_> |
| 03:53.23 | Mephs | <Mephs> so grim, what do you do? |
| 03:53.28 | Zara | how can I remove an ability link I created? |
| 03:53.30 | Tordy | hi Mephs |
| 03:53.32 | Mephs | hi torday |
| 03:53.41 | Mephs | i dont know why i type that 'a', it just happens naturally |
| 03:53.49 | Tordy | if you make 60K, you're already top 1% in the world |
| 03:53.50 | Jum-Jum | tordy today |
| 03:53.54 | Mephs | 65k. |
| 03:53.59 | Tordy | :] |
| 03:54.01 | Jum-Jum | its like its a word for something |
| 03:54.07 | Jum-Jum | like... "im feeling a bit tordy today" |
| 03:54.13 | Tordy | tardy is a word |
| 03:54.26 | Mephs | i'm feeling a bit torday tordy |
| 03:54.28 | Jum-Jum | so you're Tordy, the retarded cousin of tardy? lol |
| 03:54.35 | Tordy | :( |
| 03:54.40 | Mephs | i can't seem to type your name without serious effort |
| 03:54.40 | Jum-Jum | or perhaps its the opposite |
| 03:54.41 | Mephs | torday |
| 03:54.44 | Mephs | -_- |
| 03:54.47 | Mephs | t |
| 03:54.48 | Mephs | o |
| 03:54.48 | Mephs | r |
| 03:54.49 | Mephs | d |
| 03:54.50 | Mephs | y |
| 03:54.53 | Jum-Jum | haha |
| 03:54.54 | Tordy | so if you ow your own computer, you're already top 1% of the world population! |
| 03:54.57 | Tordy | own* |
| 03:55.05 | Tordy | >:) |
| 03:55.08 | Tordy | >:_)))))))))) |
| 03:55.27 | Mephs | so anyway |
| 03:55.38 | Mephs | <Mephs> <Mephs> so grim, what do you do? |
| 03:55.45 | Tordy | <Mephs> <Mephs> <Mephs> so grim, what do you do? |
| 03:55.50 | Mephs | <Tordy> <Mephs> <Mephs> <Mephs> so grim, what do you do? |
| 03:55.53 | Rodrigo | wow. that's funny. I watched like 50 x-code tutorials on youtube, so I gave a pause to play Debates on battle.net, and I ended up in the same game of the guy who made the x-code tutorials! |
| 03:56.01 | Mephs | rodrigo is that you in the video |
| 03:56.04 | Mephs | the wierd asian looking kid |
| 03:56.11 | Tordy | <Mephs> <Tordy> <Mephs> <Mephs> <Mephs> so grim, what do you do? |
| 03:56.12 | Mephs | making rasberries and shit |
| 03:56.13 | Rodrigo | ¬¬ |
| 03:56.26 | Rodrigo | I aint asian |
| 03:56.30 | Tordy | rodrigo is black |
| 03:56.38 | Mephs | whatever are you the kid in the video? |
| 03:56.40 | Rodrigo | ¬¬ |
| 03:56.42 | Mephs | and does that show up in the map? |
| 03:56.42 | Tordy | <_< |
| 03:56.48 | Mephs | cuz i'm 2% interested ni playing it now |
| 03:56.53 | Tordy | which x-code tutorial |
| 03:56.59 | Mephs | which is like in the top 0.5% of map standings on bnet right now |
| 03:57.01 | Rodrigo | I am this guy here: www.youtube.com/scdebates |
| 03:57.23 | Rodrigo | the ones for i-phone |
| 03:58.03 | Rodrigo | I sent a message to the guy shoutcasting the game Husky vs. HD on blizzcon. My message was displayed on line :P |
| 03:58.11 | Mephs | WHOA |
| 03:58.12 | Rodrigo | on live* |
| 03:58.16 | Mephs | fuck i want that sandwich |
| 03:58.20 | Tordy | what |
| 03:58.28 | Mephs | interest rises to 3% |
| 03:58.48 | Rodrigo | that sandwich put my 3 maps popular. Platform Defense and NWW are the most played. Debates is on page 2 |
| 03:59.02 | Tordy | what sandwich |
| 03:59.10 | Rodrigo | www.youtube.com/scdebates |
| 03:59.11 | Mephs | dude |
| 03:59.14 | Mephs | that sandwich |
| 03:59.15 | Mephs | holy fuck |
| 03:59.16 | Rodrigo | that sandwich |
| 03:59.41 | Mephs | that sandwich |
| 03:59.58 | Mephs | brb gonna go make a sandwich and put it in my map |
| 04:00.07 | Rodrigo | LOL |
| 04:00.32 | Mephs | did you just edit those videos in |
| 04:00.36 | Mephs | or are they actually in the map |
| 04:00.52 | Rodrigo | as blizzard said on Blizzcon, "we studied what makes a map popular, so we decided to create Aiur Chief" |
| 04:01.03 | Tordy | is that wheat bread |
| 04:01.28 | Mephs | "we looked at the maps that are on the top of the list, so we decided to make another dota clone" |
| 04:01.29 | Rodrigo | I dunno. What I know is that it's bread |
| 04:01.45 | Mephs | translated. |
| 04:01.46 | Tordy | god damnit blizzard! |
| 04:02.16 | Tordy | you knwo if blizzard made a tug map w/ blizz quality standards, i'd play it a lot |
| 04:02.32 | Tordy | at least that'll take out most if not all the tug maps on the top pages |
| 04:02.34 | Rodrigo | the problem is that Blizzard will boost their maps |
| 04:02.43 | Mephs | like i said |
| 04:02.44 | Rodrigo | they told that to make a map popular, you just have to post on the forums! |
| 04:02.47 | Mephs | 3 pages of BLIZZARD maps |
| 04:02.49 | Rodrigo | GREAT! VERY GOOD BLIZZARD! |
| 04:02.52 | Rodrigo | DO IT THEN! |
| 04:02.53 | Mephs | then the custom maps from users go |
| 04:02.58 | Mephs | LOL |
| 04:03.01 | crazyfingers | I get sick to my stomach when i think about what blizzard's done to the modding community |
| 04:03.03 | Rodrigo | POST on the forums "Blizzard Dota" was released! |
| 04:03.06 | Tordy | yea i wonder how they're gonna feature their 4 new custom maps |
| 04:03.06 | Rodrigo | and WAIT |
| 04:03.09 | Rodrigo | just WAIT |
| 04:03.11 | Tordy | are they just gonna put 4 featured maps on top? |
| 04:03.12 | Rodrigo | dont feature it |
| 04:03.16 | Mephs | blizzard's basically bent us all over and raped us in the ass |
| 04:03.16 | Rodrigo | just WAIT |
| 04:03.24 | Rodrigo | 1 month later, we get a new popularity system |
| 04:03.38 | Tordy | they didnt even answer the guy's question about the how popularity is calculated |
| 04:03.40 | Tordy | lmao |
| 04:03.40 | Mephs | hey here's our version of X map we put custom models in there cuz we're big and corporate and we have a modelling team |
| 04:03.50 | Mephs | we just copied it off this poor sap |
| 04:03.52 | Mephs | pay us. |
| 04:03.56 | Tordy | they just dodge every question about custom map listing |
| 04:04.11 | Mephs | god, i miss the days when blizzard was this tiny game company |
| 04:04.14 | Mephs | and they were cool |
| 04:04.16 | crazyfingers | I'm just here out of shock at this point, kinda can't beleive what's happened. 6 months ago i was going to slave away and try to make a popular blizzard mod because i thought they could do no wrong, now here i am, threw away 4 months of my life working on this crap :P |
| 04:04.26 | Tordy | here's a solution: work for blizzard! it's liek you're really getting paid to make maps! |
| 04:04.27 | Tordy | xd |
| 04:04.34 | Mephs | only |
| 04:04.35 | Rodrigo | "We won't compete with the custom maps, we don't need to, we can feature our maps for decades!" |
| 04:04.39 | Mephs | you can only make what they tell you to make |
| 04:04.42 | Mephs | so the suits make more money |
| 04:04.46 | Mephs | not what you WANT to make |
| 04:04.55 | Tordy | you can secretly add your own touches |
| 04:04.59 | crazyfingers | they only hire people who "bleed blizzard blue" |
| 04:05.05 | Mephs | "fanboys" |
| 04:05.09 | Tordy | fanbutts |
| 04:05.10 | crazyfingers | pretty much |
| 04:05.17 | Mephs | idk i just feel like |
| 04:05.19 | crazyfingers | they've made their money |
| 04:05.20 | Mephs | the custom maps thing is a trap |
| 04:05.20 | Tordy | i want to make a sandwich |
| 04:05.23 | Tordy | but i ahve no condiments |
| 04:05.32 | Tordy | and i have no ham or lettuce or anything |
| 04:05.33 | Mephs | they're keeping the popularity system teh way it is forever |
| 04:05.34 | crazyfingers | nothing to do now but just rake it in as long as they can while people suckle on their assholes |
| 04:05.36 | Mephs | so they can just see what ppl want to play |
| 04:05.36 | Tordy | i always got cheese though |
| 04:05.37 | Rodrigo | did you see the guy who mentioned Debates? "There's a lot of trolls in Debates!" LMAO! |
| 04:05.40 | Mephs | then make their own "better version" |
| 04:05.41 | Tordy | mephs do you always have cheese in teh fridge |
| 04:05.42 | Tordy | of course |
| 04:05.47 | Tordy | everyone has cheese in the fridge |
| 04:05.49 | Tordy | cheese is da best |
| 04:05.52 | Tordy | but ham :( |
| 04:05.52 | Mephs | torday |
| 04:05.55 | Tordy | or any meat for that matter |
| 04:05.56 | Tordy | god damn |
| 04:05.58 | Jum-Jum | haahhaha Rodrigo |
| 04:06.00 | Jum-Jum | thats pretty funny |
| 04:06.01 | Tordy | they spoil too quickly |
| 04:06.02 | Mephs | i actually had a philly cheesesteak for dinner |
| 04:06.05 | Tordy | :o |
| 04:06.07 | Rodrigo | Blizzard is fucking mad with Debates and the guy says on Blizzcon that there's a lot of trolls in Debates. |
| 04:06.07 | Tordy | bastard |
| 04:06.09 | Tordy | im hungry now |
| 04:06.13 | Tordy | since i didnt eat dinner yet |
| 04:06.23 | Mephs | blizzard likes banning your maps rodrigo |
| 04:06.26 | Mephs | free thought is not allowed in a map |
| 04:06.29 | Mephs | obv |
| 04:06.36 | crazyfingers | i thought it was pretty funny when they blew off that dude that won the competition |
| 04:06.42 | Mephs | lol |
| 04:06.44 | Tordy | link |
| 04:06.47 | Mephs | here's your 5k now gtfo of here |
| 04:06.52 | Mephs | we're going to make BILLIONS off your idea |
| 04:06.54 | crazyfingers | hey i won the competition (give me some recognision please!) |
| 04:06.56 | Mephs | GO AWAY SHOO |
| 04:06.58 | Rodrigo | that's exactly the reason they are doging debates like they dodge popularity system. And besides, the most popular topics in debates are about the popularity system |
| 04:07.03 | Tordy | i dont need the recognition, i'd be fine w/ the 5k |
| 04:07.08 | Mephs | -_- |
| 04:07.11 | Tordy | cuz im need of money right now >_> |
| 04:07.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster nolliepoper (47cb2a92@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.203.42.146) |
| 04:07.22 | Mephs | torday you make my insides taste like burning |
| 04:07.25 | crazyfingers | i coulda used 5k so bad right now |
| 04:07.37 | crazyfingers | i'm sober right now so i can pay for my girl to come down next weekend :P |
| 04:07.37 | nolliepoper | Is anyone on battle.net now? |
| 04:07.39 | Tordy | oh the guy that asked the question to the custom map panel? |
| 04:07.46 | crazyfingers | fuckin' sucks |
| 04:07.57 | Tordy | the guy that asked how many entries? |
| 04:08.02 | nolliepoper | Anyone can check map gamers per hour? |
| 04:08.10 | nolliepoper | I am out of town without sc2 |
| 04:08.15 | Tordy | hi nolliepoper |
| 04:08.16 | Rodrigo | I'd rather play Nexus Word Wars than that mouse-map that won the contest |
| 04:08.16 | Tordy | hi |
| 04:08.17 | Mephs | sounds like they dodged any question that wasn't about BLIZZARD DOTA and whatever they're doing |
| 04:08.25 | nolliepoper | Tordy sup friend. |
| 04:08.27 | Tordy | i dont even know what won the contest |
| 04:08.29 | Mephs | yea the contest winners looked like shit |
| 04:08.36 | Tordy | i still dont know what maps won |
| 04:08.40 | Tordy | can someone tel me!? |
| 04:08.40 | Mephs | 5hr maps |
| 04:08.41 | nolliepoper | I saw him on the Q$A |
| 04:08.47 | nolliepoper | on those youtube vids |
| 04:08.49 | Rodrigo | even the sentry scramble was better than the winner |
| 04:08.54 | Mephs | kinda punch in the balls to all those 6-month projects that didn't win |
| 04:08.56 | Tordy | im too lazy to look |
| 04:08.56 | crazyfingers | maybe we're reading too much into it. Perhaps their system is just so broke they don't want to tlak about it and there is no conspiracy |
| 04:09.09 | crazyfingers | it's not like paid maps are coming out tommorow |
| 04:09.12 | nolliepoper | Someone please check Tank D V4 games per hour |
| 04:09.13 | Tordy | which video? |
| 04:09.15 | nolliepoper | and report back. |
| 04:09.17 | nolliepoper | please? |
| 04:09.20 | crazyfingers | they'd probably kill for some decent user made maps |
| 04:09.22 | Mephs | paid maps = going to be the maps they bite off custom maps and make "better" |
| 04:09.31 | Mephs | there's plenty of decent user made maps really |
| 04:09.32 | Tordy | which maps have the map winners? |
| 04:09.35 | Mephs | problem is they're never on page 1-5 |
| 04:09.43 | crazyfingers | no idea, been wondering for weeks |
| 04:09.44 | Jum-Jum | heres an idea |
| 04:09.50 | Jum-Jum | imagine a map you need to pay for |
| 04:09.55 | nolliepoper | Paid maps is going to be a waste of time lul |
| 04:09.55 | crazyfingers | anyone know which 3 maps won? I know 2 were linked on mapster |
| 04:09.55 | Jum-Jum | whats stopping someone from copying that map exacly? |
| 04:10.05 | Tordy | Mephs are you mad about the left 2 die blizz map |
| 04:10.06 | Mephs | they can copy any map on the list they want |
| 04:10.09 | Rodrigo | I wish someone had asked about blizzard policy stating that maps with killing are inappropriate. |
| 04:10.09 | Jum-Jum | make it from scratch, but just copying like everything lol |
| 04:10.17 | Mephs | TORDY |
| 04:10.21 | Mephs | IM tOTALLY RENAMING IT TO THAT |
| 04:10.23 | Mephs | LEFT 2 DIE hahaha |
| 04:10.30 | Mephs | corny... |
| 04:10.32 | Mephs | but i like it |
| 04:10.33 | Tordy | apparently Mephs, YOU were left 2 die :( |
| 04:10.36 | Mephs | haha |
| 04:10.38 | Rodrigo | someone, run! publish a map caled left 2 die |
| 04:10.42 | Tordy | goggog |
| 04:10.42 | Tordy | XD |
| 04:10.53 | Jum-Jum | when I played with my friedns in left 4 dead we made a steam group named Right 2 Live |
| 04:10.55 | Rodrigo | blizzard dota is impossible because blizzard is a bad word |
| 04:11.00 | Mephs | well it is basically left 4 dead |
| 04:11.06 | crazyfingers | Was there anything in the stuff we signed for blizzard with our custom maps that said we accepted blizzard intentionally burying our map in popularity? |
| 04:11.09 | Mephs | like exactly l4d |
| 04:11.13 | Tordy | didnt know you guys played l4d |
| 04:11.17 | Mephs | dude i loved l4d |
| 04:11.23 | Mephs | i tried to make it as close to it as i could |
| 04:11.24 | Tordy | me too, spent like 300 hours on that game |
| 04:11.27 | Mephs | and in that, it was a success. |
| 04:11.27 | Jum-Jum | whats wrong with copying as long as they make things better |
| 04:11.29 | Jum-Jum | >:D |
| 04:11.36 | Mephs | because |
| 04:11.40 | Rodrigo | I made 3 maps, and the map I hate most is the most popular |
| 04:11.42 | Mephs | the person who actually created this ingenious idea |
| 04:11.44 | Mephs | gets zilch |
| 04:11.48 | Mephs | and blizzard makes money off their idea |
| 04:11.52 | Jum-Jum | is it simple Rodrigo? |
| 04:11.53 | Rodrigo | the map that sucks is the most popular |
| 04:11.58 | nolliepoper | Please someone can check I am out of town away from my destop with sc2. |
| 04:11.58 | Tordy | well of course, simpler maps w/ less complexity will always be more popular |
| 04:12.02 | Mephs | benefits? they have to put no effort into coming up with ideas that make money now |
| 04:12.12 | Jum-Jum | simple maps = always the most popular |
| 04:12.12 | Rodrigo | I made Platform Defense is fucking 3 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the map is for ages the most popular |
| 04:12.17 | Jum-Jum | people always overcomplicate their maps |
| 04:12.18 | Jum-Jum | personally i hate that |
| 04:12.29 | Mephs | i dont |
| 04:12.29 | crazyfingers | when you're not being paid, popularity is important to motivate you to make it better as well as recognition you deserve. If blizzard intentionally drives it down with a bullshit popularity system |
| 04:12.32 | crazyfingers | then reworks it |
| 04:12.33 | Mephs | problem is i take a simple game |
| 04:12.35 | crazyfingers | makes a buck on it |
| 04:12.37 | nolliepoper | Rodrigo did I play your defense map with you? |
| 04:12.38 | Tordy | yea that's the problem that most beginner designers dont understand |
| 04:12.38 | Mephs | and make it look gorgeous (except the terrain) |
| 04:12.39 | crazyfingers | i would call that criminal |
| 04:12.42 | Tordy | they don't know their audience |
| 04:12.46 | Rodrigo | nolliepoper, I dunno |
| 04:12.49 | Mephs | like really my map is hardly complicated |
| 04:12.50 | Tordy | so they overcomplicate thigns to make it look "good" |
| 04:12.52 | Mephs | you dont have to upgrade anything |
| 04:12.59 | Mephs | you dont have to gain levels |
| 04:13.00 | Mephs | you just |
| 04:13.01 | Mephs | pick a hero |
| 04:13.02 | Tordy | mephs your map is just hard to fill :/ |
| 04:13.03 | Mephs | and start shootin zombies |
| 04:13.07 | Tordy | and to make popular at the same time |
| 04:13.19 | Mephs | well |
| 04:13.21 | Jum-Jum | they like ... think "lets make a whole new game! oh man i would love to play this" and they make this overly complicated map that WOULD be fun but nobody plays it because the learning level is just too high |
| 04:13.21 | Mephs | i had it at p2 |
| 04:13.25 | Mephs | till i stopped bumping |
| 04:13.25 | nolliepoper | K no one will check the new map list cool. |
| 04:13.27 | Rodrigo | Nexus Word Wars is complex inside, but very simple concept. You just TYPE to kill. |
| 04:13.30 | Tordy | :][ |
| 04:13.32 | Mephs | actually the new map list |
| 04:13.36 | Mephs | is how i got to p2 initially |
| 04:13.42 | Mephs | if i delete and re-release it as "left 2 die" |
| 04:13.47 | Tordy | you know what i noticed they changed about the pop system |
| 04:13.47 | Mephs | with category "Left 4 Dead" |
| 04:13.51 | Mephs | i think it might become a lot more popular |
| 04:13.53 | nolliepoper | Check the games per hour on Tank D V3 |
| 04:13.57 | nolliepoper | V4* |
| 04:13.58 | Tordy | i need to poop |
| 04:13.59 | Mephs | "Survivors vs. Swarm" does sound like something even i'd just pass over on the list |
| 04:14.01 | Jum-Jum | lol do it Mephs |
| 04:14.08 | Mephs | it worked for eck |
| 04:14.08 | Tordy | DO IT" |
| 04:14.11 | Jum-Jum | thats a boring name |
| 04:14.12 | Mephs | he just fucking released his game as "dota" |
| 04:14.18 | Mephs | hey gayz |
| 04:14.20 | Tordy | yea eck had to change it to dota to get some plays :/ |
| 04:14.22 | Mephs | "Dota". BOOM 23905890238520 games/hr |
| 04:14.25 | Mephs | i'm about to try it |
| 04:14.29 | Mephs | if i just fucking call it Left 4 Dead |
| 04:14.30 | Tordy | DO ITTTT |
| 04:14.30 | Mephs | it might work |
| 04:14.32 | Tordy | im with you o this man |
| 04:14.36 | Jum-Jum | absoloutly |
| 04:14.40 | Rodrigo | How the hell is Swarm Defense FEATURED?!?!?!?!?!?!?! That map is terribly unbalanced, and it's all in portuguese! |
| 04:14.42 | crazyfingers | who's eck? |
| 04:14.44 | Mephs | it had a hell of a cult following |
| 04:14.46 | Mephs | for the time it was up |
| 04:14.50 | Mephs | i know i can make it popular as hell |
| 04:14.53 | Tordy | well there WAS a Left 4 Dead map but it was bad |
| 04:14.56 | Mephs | yea |
| 04:14.58 | Tordy | BUT it got a lot of plays |
| 04:15.00 | Mephs | i can't name it that cuz that retarded map is there |
| 04:15.03 | Mephs | still |
| 04:15.11 | Mephs | but i can make the category |
| 04:15.17 | Mephs | like SOTIS is "Dota All-stars" simple. |
| 04:15.19 | Tordy | yea set the category that's fine |
| 04:15.21 | Mephs | something to make ppl like OH SHIt |
| 04:15.24 | Mephs | and i need a new graphic |
| 04:15.28 | Mephs | not a picture of the minimap |
| 04:15.34 | Mephs | i REALLY |
| 04:15.35 | Tordy | picture of |
| 04:15.36 | Mephs | wanted to make a movie poster |
| 04:15.39 | Mephs | with the 5 heroes |
| 04:15.40 | Tordy | the 4 survivors! |
| 04:15.43 | Tordy | 5 |
| 04:15.44 | Mephs | like the loading screen in l4d |
| 04:15.47 | Tordy | hi |
| 04:15.51 | Tordy | taaaaank!! |
| 04:15.54 | Mephs | boomer. |
| 04:15.55 | Mephs | BOOMER |
| 04:15.56 | Mephs | boomer! |
| 04:15.57 | Tordy | SMOKER |
| 04:15.57 | Mephs | boomer!? |
| 04:15.58 | Mephs | BOOMER |
| 04:16.00 | Tordy | BOOMER |
| 04:16.00 | Mephs | boomer |
| 04:16.02 | Mephs | boomer! |
| 04:16.03 | Mephs | BOOMER! |
| 04:16.11 | Tordy | i binded the boomer voice to one of my keys and just spammed it to hell |
| 04:16.16 | Mephs | the tank can throw cars now :> |
| 04:16.26 | progammer_ | Mephs: you mean this ? http://us.media2.battle.net/cms/carousel_header/LFDB6GZP09KL1287680752593.jpg |
| 04:16.26 | Tordy | i love it when Bill says Boomer |
| 04:16.39 | Mephs | huh? |
| 04:16.39 | Tordy | fuck it just send everyboyd! |
| 04:16.49 | Mephs | lol yea everyone spammed boomer |
| 04:16.57 | Mephs | idk l4d2 was fun for like a week |
| 04:16.57 | Tordy | boomer sounded the funniest |
| 04:17.01 | Mephs | i still liked classic more |
| 04:17.04 | Tordy | me too |
| 04:17.10 | Mephs | thing is i didn't want to make ANOTHER co-op zombie game |
| 04:17.17 | Mephs | everyone makes co-op zombie games |
| 04:17.18 | Tordy | l4d2 had all that additional stuff but it didnt have the atmosphere that l4d1 had |
| 04:17.20 | Mephs | i wanted ti to be competitive |
| 04:17.23 | Mephs | like the classic l4d multi |
| 04:17.30 | Mephs | yea |
| 04:17.33 | Tordy | hi Mephs hi progammer_ |
| 04:17.34 | Mephs | i liked the original cast better too |
| 04:17.38 | Tordy | oh yea |
| 04:17.39 | Jum-Jum | I use to bind the death sounds to my G key on my keyboard when I played L4D |
| 04:17.39 | Tordy | definately |
| 04:17.45 | Jum-Jum | and I always tried to pick the girl |
| 04:17.46 | Mephs | well |
| 04:17.47 | Tordy | original cast was x10000 better |
| 04:17.50 | Mephs | you motivated me |
| 04:17.51 | Jum-Jum | so she would walk around and scream all the time lol |
| 04:17.54 | Mephs | i'm gonna go fire up my bot comps |
| 04:17.56 | Mephs | and start bumpin |
| 04:17.58 | Jum-Jum | "AAAAH AAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH" and nothing is happening |
| 04:17.59 | Jum-Jum | was hilarious |
| 04:18.06 | Mephs | lol if you get ZOE |
| 04:18.13 | Jum-Jum | and also had "tank" and "witch" binded for awhile |
| 04:18.14 | Mephs | usually you only do it to spam her scream |
| 04:18.19 | Jum-Jum | everyon spawns and instantly "WIIIITCH!" |
| 04:18.24 | Mephs | lmao |
| 04:18.31 | Mephs | i did not put a witch in however. |
| 04:18.32 | Jum-Jum | and you start shooting zoe |
| 04:18.36 | Mephs | haha |
| 04:18.39 | Mephs | also fun was |
| 04:18.41 | Mephs | on No Mercy |
| 04:18.45 | Mephs | everyone just jumping off the side |
| 04:18.52 | Mephs | of the building |
| 04:18.57 | Jum-Jum | haha |
| 04:19.05 | Mephs | i hated the first level with a passion |
| 04:19.16 | Tordy | i loved no mercy |
| 04:19.21 | Mephs | oh i played NM into the ground |
| 04:19.24 | Mephs | but the first map SUCKS |
| 04:19.26 | Jum-Jum | when I played with my friends |
| 04:19.27 | Mephs | fucking piece of shit car |
| 04:19.31 | Mephs | no one could dodge the f ucking car |
| 04:19.35 | Jum-Jum | we always spammed "argh!" or whatever its called with Louis |
| 04:19.39 | Tordy | well it only sucks if you're playing w/ bad players |
| 04:19.41 | Mephs | or you get the tank in that one alley |
| 04:19.47 | Jum-Jum | he always want "Aauuuh" like ... did it in a 'rapper' style |
| 04:19.48 | Mephs | that just spams the car at you |
| 04:19.48 | Tordy | i personally loved the first level as some introductory level |
| 04:19.50 | Jum-Jum | sounded so ridicolous |
| 04:19.57 | Tordy | much better than the intro level to l4f2 |
| 04:20.05 | Mephs | and you never get a molotov unless you're super lucky |
| 04:20.06 | Jum-Jum | so we said on vent "Louis, kill that mic!" "AUUUHH!" |
| 04:20.09 | Tordy | somethin about starting on the top of an apartment, working way down |
| 04:20.13 | Tordy | great feeling to irt |
| 04:20.15 | Mephs | meh |
| 04:20.16 | Tordy | great feeling to it |
| 04:20.17 | Tordy | :] |
| 04:20.19 | Mephs | the level DESIGN yea |
| 04:20.22 | Mephs | but in actual competitive play |
| 04:20.23 | Mephs | ugh |
| 04:20.26 | Tordy | umad |
| 04:20.27 | Mephs | most retarded map |
| 04:20.36 | Mephs | dude |
| 04:20.37 | Jum-Jum | what annoyed me in L4D was that they promised more campaign maps |
| 04:20.38 | Mephs | the last map too |
| 04:20.42 | Mephs | going up that ladder |
| 04:20.43 | Mephs | omfg |
| 04:20.45 | Jum-Jum | instead they didnt release any more campaign and went on and made L4D2 |
| 04:20.46 | Tordy | xd |
| 04:20.49 | Mephs | serious |
| 04:20.49 | Jum-Jum | that just pissed me off |
| 04:20.53 | Mephs | with a good team i could end the game there |
| 04:20.55 | Mephs | every time |
| 04:20.57 | Mephs | sac the initial boom |
| 04:21.03 | Mephs | 3 hunter/smoker them as they come up top |
| 04:21.03 | Mephs | ez |
| 04:21.13 | Jum-Jum | it was very hard to find people to play against when i played with 3 of my mates |
| 04:21.18 | Mephs | the hardest part |
| 04:21.19 | Jum-Jum | people just kept leaving the server lol |
| 04:21.20 | Mephs | yea |
| 04:21.24 | Mephs | leavers are rampant in that game |
| 04:21.35 | Jum-Jum | its like "OH YEAH PLAY AS UNDEAD DOOD!" |
| 04:21.38 | Jum-Jum | plays tha round |
| 04:21.41 | Jum-Jum | he gets survivor |
| 04:21.42 | Jum-Jum | leaves |
| 04:21.50 | Mephs | the only good games i got were in private ladders and with 7 friends |
| 04:21.58 | Jum-Jum | and then another leaves becaues its 3v4... and suddenly its 2v4 |
| 04:22.02 | Mephs | lol |
| 04:22.08 | Mephs | thats when you start punching Bot Bill. |
| 04:22.17 | Mephs | as he tries to medkit you at 90% |
| 04:22.37 | Mephs | we actually got into a game of "dont get medkitted" one game |
| 04:22.38 | Tordy | why does organic milk taste better than non-organic |
| 04:22.45 | Mephs | where the other team left |
| 04:22.46 | ZarafFaraz | so is Blizzcon over now? |
| 04:22.47 | Mephs | and we had 1 bot |
| 04:22.51 | Mephs | so whoever got hit by the medkit lost |
| 04:22.53 | Mephs | and we'd kill them |
| 04:23.00 | Mephs | you had to run from the bot trying to heal you |
| 04:23.05 | Jum-Jum | hahaha |
| 04:23.05 | Tordy | stupid bot xd |
| 04:23.09 | Tordy | just kill the bot |
| 04:23.12 | Mephs | no thats part of the game |
| 04:23.14 | Mephs | you can't |
| 04:23.24 | Tordy | was surprised the bots in l4d2 were even worse |
| 04:23.28 | Mephs | what fun is "dont get healed" if you dont have someone trying to heal you |
| 04:23.31 | Tordy | i'd figure they improve upon shitty AI |
| 04:23.33 | Tordy | but NOPE |
| 04:23.37 | Mephs | AI isn't easy to make dood |
| 04:23.41 | Tordy | i know |
| 04:23.42 | Mephs | be glad it even barely worked |
| 04:23.47 | Tordy | but how can they make l4d2's worse!? |
| 04:23.52 | Mephs | LEMME HEAL YOU AND STEAL ALL THE AMMO |
| 04:23.58 | Jum-Jum | I thought the bots were pretty good |
| 04:23.58 | Mephs | OK GAIZ IM GONNA GO RUN INTO THE ZOMBIE HORDE |
| 04:24.03 | Mephs | they were okay... |
| 04:24.07 | Mephs | except when they didn't do shit |
| 04:24.12 | Jum-Jum | I mean I imagined worse |
| 04:24.14 | Mephs | like they wouldn't clump up |
| 04:24.16 | Mephs | in the ambushes |
| 04:24.25 | Jum-Jum | but considering all the factors in that game i thought they were okay atleast |
| 04:24.25 | Tordy | they're horrible when you got pounced or smoked |
| 04:24.29 | Tordy | sometimes they just sit theyre |
| 04:24.30 | Tordy | there |
| 04:24.30 | Jum-Jum | dude |
| 04:24.31 | Mephs | yea lmao |
| 04:24.35 | Jum-Jum | the bots are like pretty much always |
| 04:24.40 | Mephs | other times they'd snipe a smoker hidden on the other side of the map |
| 04:24.42 | Mephs | and you're like o_O |
| 04:24.42 | Jum-Jum | better than the actual players you play with |
| 04:24.45 | Mephs | yea |
| 04:24.46 | Mephs | ...true |
| 04:24.47 | Tordy | well that's because bots have aimbot |
| 04:24.49 | Tordy | >.> |
| 04:24.51 | Mephs | haha |
| 04:24.53 | Tordy | that's the only good thing about them |
| 04:24.58 | Jum-Jum | you get hit by a hunter and the bots actually react |
| 04:25.01 | Mephs | strangely enough |
| 04:25.07 | Mephs | the only bot with good aim was the black guy |
| 04:25.09 | Mephs | i wonder why |
| 04:25.12 | Mephs | ................................................... |
| 04:25.12 | Jum-Jum | while with players this guy gets scared and just sits in a corner and doesnt help |
| 04:25.18 | Tordy | sometimes they react, sometimes they're literally staring at you getting killed |
| 04:25.27 | Jum-Jum | i saw a movie a few days ago.. hm.. cant remember which one it was |
| 04:25.36 | Tordy | like at least MELEE the damn thing off of me |
| 04:25.37 | Jum-Jum | but i laughed to myself because the black guy was the first to die |
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| 04:25.42 | Jum-Jum | it just felt "typical" lol |
| 04:25.47 | Tordy | always the black dude :( |
| 04:25.51 | Tordy | i always played louis |
| 04:25.52 | Mephs | oh yea |
| 04:25.58 | Mephs | we always left louis for dead |
| 04:26.01 | Tordy | sometiems bill |
| 04:26.03 | Mephs | just for shits n giggles |
| 04:26.03 | Tordy | too |
| 04:26.05 | Tordy | never play zoey |
| 04:26.08 | Tordy | cuz she's a slut |
| 04:26.13 | Mephs | zoey has 3 hands, too |
| 04:26.14 | Mephs | fact |
| 04:26.20 | Tordy | yea 3 hands in the NM poster |
| 04:26.23 | Mephs | XD |
| 04:26.24 | Tordy | and they still havent fixed it xd |
| 04:26.29 | Mephs | artist was like |
| 04:26.31 | Mephs | oh fuck |
| 04:26.34 | Mephs | i can't patch that up |
| 04:26.36 | Tordy | and then screew it |
| 04:26.37 | Mephs | ...draw another hand! |
| 04:26.53 | Mephs | anyone here want to draw a movie poster from scratch? |
| 04:26.56 | Mephs | :> |
| 04:27.06 | Tordy | i would like to |
| 04:27.08 | Tordy | but im not an artist |
| 04:27.12 | Mephs | i need a better name than "left 2 die" |
| 04:27.13 | Tordy | nor do i know how to use photoshop |
| 04:27.18 | allenmelon | lol |
| 04:27.18 | Mephs | or you think that's good? |
| 04:27.19 | Tordy | nor do i know how to use illustrator |
| 04:27.23 | nolliepoper | Tordy |
| 04:27.23 | Tordy | nor do i know |
| 04:27.25 | Tordy | hi Mephs |
| 04:27.35 | Mephs | just draw stick figures |
| 04:27.38 | Mephs | and make sure nova has 3 hands |
| 04:27.40 | Tordy | stick figures are laaame |
| 04:27.41 | nolliepoper | according to rodrigo said my map gets 3k plays per hour |
| 04:27.47 | Tordy | what |
| 04:27.50 | Tordy | what's your map called |
| 04:27.50 | Mephs | what map is that |
| 04:27.56 | Mephs | oh tank d v4 |
| 04:27.57 | nolliepoper | Tank D V4 |
| 04:28.00 | nolliepoper | yeah |
| 04:28.00 | Tordy | oh |
| 04:28.00 | Mephs | yea 3067 right now |
| 04:28.07 | allenmelon | o wow |
| 04:28.08 | Mephs | yea |
| 04:28.10 | Mephs | its like most TDs |
| 04:28.12 | allenmelon | i should go play that |
| 04:28.15 | Mephs | everyone plays it |
| 04:28.15 | allenmelon | havent played it yet |
| 04:28.16 | Rodrigo | I just lot a Nexus Word Wars match. arghhhhhhh. 200 words typed and I lost! |
| 04:28.17 | Mephs | then it goes away |
| 04:28.21 | nolliepoper | That my first map and pretty simple |
| 04:28.23 | Rodrigo | lost* |
| 04:28.29 | allenmelon | lol |
| 04:28.35 | Mephs | haha noob |
| 04:28.36 | Rodrigo | 200 freaking words typed |
| 04:28.39 | Mephs | rodrigo sucks at his own game! |
| 04:28.42 | Rodrigo | my fingers are hurting |
| 04:28.44 | allenmelon | i usually lose bcuz i dont send units |
| 04:28.52 | Rodrigo | I had 2 WARPgates |
| 04:28.53 | allenmelon | i just type without sending |
| 04:28.55 | Rodrigo | TWO!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:28.58 | Mephs | sucks at his own game too :( |
| 04:29.15 | Rodrigo | 2 warpgates, nice team, nice strategy |
| 04:29.16 | Mephs | cuz i always pick the engineer and i had to buff the shit out of him so i didn't suck with him anymore |
| 04:29.22 | Rodrigo | I was able to keep the annoyling on the middle |
| 04:29.26 | nolliepoper | funny because only 1 comment on sc2mapster and no emails for bugs or suggestions |
| 04:30.03 | Tordy | shows people dont go on sc2mapste :/ |
| 04:30.08 | Rodrigo | nolliepoper, my map Platform Defense is the most played with 7000. My email is in the loading screen. In 1 week I got only 1 email. |
| 04:30.10 | Tordy | for the custom maps as much |
| 04:30.26 | Tordy | what did the email say |
| 04:30.34 | nolliepoper | Rodrigo you made that platform game? |
| 04:30.35 | Rodrigo | the email said to feature his name on the loading screen |
| 04:30.41 | Tordy | xd |
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| 04:30.44 | Rodrigo | because he beat the game, and he sent the replay attached |
| 04:30.56 | Tordy | well it shows some people really like your map :] |
| 04:31.01 | Rodrigo | I made Platform Defense, Debates, and Nexus Word Wars |
| 04:31.04 | nolliepoper | I never got into it bro. |
| 04:31.15 | Tordy | maaaaybe |
| 04:31.22 | Rodrigo | no one sends me emails about my maps |
| 04:31.22 | Tordy | if i update it then i shall |
| 04:31.22 | Tordy | what |
| 04:31.59 | nolliepoper | Well you are a more experienced map maker than myself garrentied. |
| 04:31.59 | Tordy | damnit it's already sunday |
| 04:32.00 | Tordy | arrrgh |
| 04:32.08 | Tordy | too soon |
| 04:32.16 | Tordy | this 3 day weekend is going by FAST |
| 04:32.19 | Tordy | damn css |
| 04:32.24 | Tordy | i got a midterm in 2 days :/ |
| 04:32.28 | Rodrigo | I am addicted to my own maps |
| 04:32.30 | nolliepoper | same |
| 04:32.31 | Rodrigo | cant believe it |
| 04:32.33 | Tordy | and i really need to prepare for it |
| 04:32.47 | Tordy | i like chese |
| 04:32.58 | Tordy | and i need to a the first coding portion of my project by thursday |
| 04:33.08 | Tordy | and i still need to revise my design xdD |
| 04:33.11 | Tordy | im so fucked |
| 04:33.14 | Tordy | cuz im so lazy >_> |
| 04:33.51 | Mephs | ok back to ladder |
| 04:33.55 | Mephs | need to hit 1500 pts |
| 04:34.10 | Tordy | im coding a web-based app for checking undergraduate requirements and schedule suggestion |
| 04:34.13 | Tordy | soudns simple right? |
| 04:34.21 | Tordy | damnit it's a lot mor complicated than i though |
| 04:34.25 | Mephs | hi torday |
| 04:34.27 | Tordy | hi |
| 04:34.33 | Tordy | Mephs can you do this project for me |
| 04:34.36 | Tordy | you seem like a good coder |
| 04:34.37 | Tordy | :] |
| 04:34.43 | Mephs | pay me |
| 04:34.45 | Tordy | :( |
| 04:35.10 | Tordy | you familiar with database management |
| 04:35.15 | Tordy | mysql etc |
| 04:35.19 | nolliepoper | Mephs are you BadMephisto/ |
| 04:35.25 | Tordy | BadMephisto i know that guy! |
| 04:35.38 | nolliepoper | yeah just sayin |
| 04:35.40 | Tordy | and all I know is he is NOT mephs |
| 04:35.51 | nolliepoper | How do you know him? |
| 04:35.56 | Tordy | just a hunch |
| 04:36.04 | nolliepoper | tell me more. |
| 04:36.06 | Tordy | i just ate 10 dorito bags |
| 04:36.12 | Tordy | am i gonna get fat |
| 04:36.30 | nolliepoper | You lie to me about BadMephisto? |
| 04:36.55 | Tordy | you could tell by the lack of Mephs response |
| 04:37.11 | nolliepoper | That you know him? |
| 04:37.16 | Tordy | yea |
| 04:37.29 | nolliepoper | tell me more |
| 04:37.37 | Tordy | well |
| 04:37.45 | Tordy | he was born in a small town called greenstone |
| 04:38.03 | Tordy | population about 500, everyone practically knew each other |
| 04:38.18 | Tordy | but BadMephisto stood out |
| 04:38.29 | Tordy | because he had knowledge of computers at a very young age |
| 04:38.48 | Tordy | people in this town are not fond with technology |
| 04:38.55 | Tordy | and you know what happens to BadMephisto next |
| 04:40.25 | nolliepoper | obvious mephs is badmephisto |
| 04:40.49 | Tordy | who |
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| 04:41.38 | Tordy | hi nolliepoper |
| 04:42.07 | nolliepoper | FRIEND |
| 04:42.13 | Tordy | hi friend |
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| 04:42.19 | nolliepoper | Greetings |
| 04:42.30 | nolliepoper | Warm regards |
| 04:42.44 | Tordy | erect regards |
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| 04:43.33 | nolliepoper | sonoma |
| 04:43.38 | nolliepoper | gun |
| 04:44.03 | nolliepoper | haxery make up ur mind. |
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| 04:44.15 | nolliepoper | hax... |
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| 04:47.45 | Tordy | whatever happened to that harvest moon map |
| 04:47.49 | Tordy | i want to play it again :[ |
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| 04:53.53 | crazyfingers | never heard of a harvest moon map |
| 04:53.56 | crazyfingers | US server? |
| 04:54.22 | ItsAboutTime | if its planting things. then US it is |
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| 04:54.57 | ItsAboutTime | does anyone here know about dependancies? |
| 04:55.07 | Mephs | they depend on things to work |
| 04:55.10 | Lilianna | They are things you depend on! |
| 04:55.18 | ItsAboutTime | ha |
| 04:55.35 | allenmelon | omg rrowland! |
| 04:55.52 | allenmelon | i just saw him on in blizzcon vid asking a question |
| 04:55.56 | ItsAboutTime | I want to add triggers, and images to a mod. then use them on a map as a dependancy |
| 04:56.00 | Mephs | omg! |
| 04:56.04 | Mephs | i saw him ask a question too that's crazy |
| 04:56.07 | Mephs | omggggg |
| 04:56.27 | ZarafFaraz | does anyone know how to open an m3 model file into 3DS Max? |
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| 04:56.51 | ItsAboutTime | there are a lot of threads about 3ds on the website |
| 04:57.00 | ZarafFaraz | sc2mapster? |
| 04:57.38 | ItsAboutTime | yes |
| 04:57.42 | ZarafFaraz | k |
| 04:57.43 | ZarafFaraz | thanks |
| 04:58.29 | mahashiro | hey guys, I'm trying to get the unit type (triggering ability target unit) trigger into the data editor |
| 04:58.36 | mahashiro | have any of you done that before? |
| 04:59.35 | ItsAboutTime | event? |
| 04:59.54 | mahashiro | I haven't used events before |
| 05:00.00 | mahashiro | where can I learn about them? |
| 05:00.26 | ItsAboutTime | create a trigger. then add an event. look at the unit events. |
| 05:00.53 | mahashiro | oh that's not what I mean |
| 05:01.17 | mahashiro | I have a working trigger that takes an ability and uses the (triggering ability target unit) |
| 05:01.20 | mahashiro | unit type |
| 05:01.31 | ItsAboutTime | unit uses an ability event. condition the units ability type. then get triggering unit if the ability matches the condition. |
| 05:01.34 | mahashiro | I want to get that (triggering ability target unit) into the data editor |
| 05:01.43 | mahashiro | yea I got that |
| 05:02.17 | ItsAboutTime | you talking about changing the stats on a unit ability? |
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| 05:02.29 | mahashiro | like |
| 05:02.35 | mahashiro | suppose I wanted to create a unit |
| 05:02.44 | mahashiro | based on what the target was |
| 05:02.46 | Tordy | all da single ladies! |
| 05:02.47 | mahashiro | how do I do that? |
| 05:02.58 | mahashiro | from an ability in the data editor |
| 05:03.02 | ItsAboutTime | create unit of type |
| 05:03.06 | Tordy | Mephs is jealous |
| 05:03.07 | Tordy | hi Mephs |
| 05:03.15 | mahashiro | yea in the data editor |
| 05:03.21 | mahashiro | you can only specify static types |
| 05:03.30 | Tordy | so laaame :/ |
| 05:03.32 | ItsAboutTime | in the trigger editor you create unit of type |
| 05:03.39 | mahashiro | I know |
| 05:03.50 | mahashiro | I'm trying to do it in the data editor |
| 05:03.58 | ItsAboutTime | oh |
| 05:04.04 | ItsAboutTime | you dont |
| 05:04.08 | ItsAboutTime | sec |
| 05:04.32 | ItsAboutTime | you create the unit by placing it on the map. goto the map and select the unit layer |
| 05:04.34 | allenmelon | lol, a guy asking a question to the blizz team was wearing a shirt saying bnet 2.0 epic fail detected hahah |
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| 05:06.06 | mahashiro | yea I saw that lol |
| 05:06.25 | Jum-Jum | hahahah |
| 05:06.26 | mahashiro | ok I did that |
| 05:06.27 | Jum-Jum | awesome |
| 05:06.34 | Jum-Jum | is it on stream allenmelon? |
| 05:06.41 | Jum-Jum | I want to see that |
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| 05:08.22 | onetwo | im watching the art panel |
| 05:08.26 | onetwo | awesome new hero models |
| 05:08.27 | onetwo | im gonna use the bow one |
| 05:08.28 | onetwo | in my rpg |
| 05:08.36 | mahashiro | hi onetwo |
| 05:08.38 | progammer_ | what bow ? |
| 05:08.40 | mahashiro | when do those come out? |
| 05:08.47 | Tordy | train uberlisk |
| 05:08.47 | Tordy | yay |
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| 05:08.52 | Tordy | rainbow archon |
| 05:08.53 | Tordy | :) |
| 05:08.53 | Tordy | >:) |
| 05:08.54 | progammer | the bdota would be out around dec |
| 05:08.55 | Tordy | >>>>:) |
| 05:08.59 | Tordy | dec? |
| 05:09.00 | onetwo | hi |
| 05:09.01 | Tordy | really? |
| 05:09.04 | rrowland | hi |
| 05:09.04 | mahashiro | oh cool |
| 05:09.07 | Tordy | hi rrowland! |
| 05:09.07 | progammer | yeah its patch 1.2 |
| 05:09.12 | progammer | all those model needs patch |
| 05:09.12 | mahashiro | I started playing league of legends |
| 05:09.18 | Tordy | i loved your question at blizzcon xd |
| 05:09.24 | Tordy | sc2mapster!!! :] |
| 05:09.25 | Tordy | hi rrowland |
| 05:09.26 | Tordy | !!! |
| 05:10.03 | ItsAboutTime | I have a simple question about dependacies if someone can take a stab at it |
| 05:10.51 | Jum-Jum | gj on your shout out rrowland \o |
| 05:11.08 | Jum-Jum | you were the most normal looking person on the entire blizzcon also |
| 05:11.12 | onetwo | hahah |
| 05:11.59 | rrowland | man i hate seeing myself |
| 05:12.02 | rrowland | on tv |
| 05:12.13 | rrowland | i dont see myself looking like that |
| 05:12.16 | rrowland | but I guess I do |
| 05:12.31 | Jum-Jum | unless you are use to it |
| 05:12.36 | Jum-Jum | being on tv and all |
| 05:12.39 | progammer | rrowland: so how's the sixen thing |
| 05:12.41 | Jum-Jum | everyone feels like that trust me |
| 05:12.42 | currydevil | what can I use to open a .rar file? (trying to import some models but ... the damn things are saved as .rar) |
| 05:12.54 | progammer | currydevil: you cant open a rar ? really ? |
| 05:13.01 | rrowland | there is no sixen thing |
| 05:13.02 | currydevil | i don't have anything no. |
| 05:13.06 | rrowland | never heard from him |
| 05:13.06 | Jum-Jum | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdG9jQlQQvw#t=5m55s |
| 05:13.23 | progammer | search winrar please |
| 05:13.27 | Jum-Jum | whos that? who is that? |
| 05:13.28 | Jum-Jum | hmm |
| 05:13.31 | currydevil | and i'm not downloading bitzipper again? pos requires even something else to use that. |
| 05:13.35 | Tordy | sc2mapster is a great resource!!! |
| 05:13.36 | Tordy | >:) |
| 05:13.51 | rrowland | god |
| 05:13.52 | rrowland | my nose |
| 05:13.56 | rrowland | is it really that bad |
| 05:14.08 | Tordy | your nose is cute :3 |
| 05:14.11 | Jum-Jum | :S |
| 05:14.28 | progammer | winrar is the best thing to use |
| 05:14.33 | Tordy | use 7zip |
| 05:14.36 | progammer | you dont even need any thing else |
| 05:14.38 | rrowland | I want to chop it off right now |
| 05:14.43 | Tordy | it does both rar and 7z |
| 05:14.49 | Tordy | and it's free |
| 05:14.56 | Tordy | without the hassle of that trial or pirating |
| 05:14.59 | Tordy | lightweight |
| 05:15.00 | Tordy | etc |
| 05:15.01 | Tordy | gogog |
| 05:15.12 | currydevil | i did "gogog" which one am i dl'ing? =X |
| 05:15.21 | Tordy | google 7zip |
| 05:15.22 | currydevil | they all say trial for the license. |
| 05:15.28 | Tordy | just download 7zip |
| 05:15.29 | currydevil | i googled winrar |
| 05:15.31 | Tordy | NO |
| 05:15.33 | Tordy | google 7zip |
| 05:15.34 | Jum-Jum | honestly rrowland, everybody feels like that when they see themselves on tv or something similiar |
| 05:15.35 | Tordy | NOW |
| 05:15.45 | Jum-Jum | i have no idea why you talk about your nose tho lol |
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| 05:16.34 | onetwo | lol rrowland |
| 05:16.37 | progammer_ | blizz stream sucks |
| 05:16.41 | rrowland | why is there an uglier part of my face than my nose? |
| 05:16.51 | Tordy | rrowland you're very pretty on screen |
| 05:16.51 | progammer_ | lol rrowland get over it |
| 05:17.00 | Tordy | no homo |
| 05:17.02 | onetwo | meh most cameras and lighting is unflattering in the modern world, you can usually blame the shot |
| 05:17.11 | progammer_ | rrowland: you'r the rainbow unicorn of mapster ,no worries |
| 05:17.13 | onetwo | thats why hollywodo movies spend a day setting up lighting |
| 05:17.15 | rrowland | lol |
| 05:17.19 | onetwo | so a star that looks average suddenly looks amazing |
| 05:17.30 | Tordy | double rainbow!! |
| 05:17.33 | onetwo | !! |
| 05:17.44 | rrowland | I always thought there was a chance I was attractive but now I know it isn't so |
| 05:17.45 | progammer_ | well the themes of blizzcon is rainbow |
| 05:17.46 | Jum-Jum | rrowland aka dooouble rainbooow oh my good |
| 05:17.46 | rrowland | QQ |
| 05:17.55 | Jum-Jum | rrowland: ... |
| 05:17.58 | progammer_ | i expect they to have some rainbow easter eggs in cata |
| 05:17.59 | Jum-Jum | keep looking at the video then |
| 05:18.02 | Jum-Jum | you'll change your mind |
| 05:18.06 | rrowland | lol |
| 05:18.21 | Jum-Jum | i should do that, if anybody ever feels down and feels ugly |
| 05:18.24 | rrowland | Wonder if I can find the other clip I was in |
| 05:18.28 | Jum-Jum | you should just post Q&A sessions from Blizzcon |
| 05:23.20 | ShadowTaisho | back |
| 05:23.25 | ShadowTaisho | i got home made fried chicken |
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| 05:30.01 | ItsAboutTime | hey im not stupid |
| 05:30.09 | ItsAboutTime | a better introduction |
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| 05:32.07 | Jum-Jum | eating food makes you dumb? |
| 05:33.03 | ItsAboutTime | I dont eat it, I break it down. |
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| 05:33.36 | Miccrackens | i am here |
| 05:33.41 | Miccrackens | Groar |
| 05:33.57 | rrowland | so whats up |
| 05:34.05 | rrowland | any blizzcon attendees back yet? |
| 05:34.05 | Miccrackens | nothing just working |
| 05:34.33 | Miccrackens | idk lol |
| 05:34.53 | Miccrackens | what you up to homeslice |
| 05:35.00 | rrowland | I hung out with ckknight a bit today |
| 05:35.06 | rrowland | Saw him when I was getting food |
| 05:35.19 | Miccrackens | haha nice |
| 05:35.27 | rrowland | We played D3 |
| 05:35.49 | onetwo | that bastard |
| 05:36.12 | Jum-Jum | hope you punched eachother afterwards |
| 05:36.21 | Jum-Jum | for playing d3 before everybody else in here |
| 05:36.22 | onetwo | just like sixen morally punched rrowland? |
| 05:36.23 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:36.41 | onetwo | did you find him today |
| 05:36.43 | rrowland | Sixen was supposed to post the party info on sc2mapster and he didnt |
| 05:36.46 | rrowland | no |
| 05:36.53 | rrowland | ck told me about the party |
| 05:36.57 | rrowland | Apparently it was super fun |
| 05:37.09 | onetwo | everybody was cursing at eachother and whatnot? |
| 05:37.15 | onetwo | ah im bad |
| 05:37.45 | rrowland | tee hee' |
| 05:37.48 | rrowland | Oh |
| 05:38.01 | Miccrackens | so who is up to a pizza night!!! |
| 05:38.05 | Miccrackens | On me |
| 05:38.08 | rrowland | I finally got to talk to a recruitment staff member that wasnt completely retarded |
| 05:38.17 | rrowland | He was really cool |
| 05:38.26 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:38.37 | Jum-Jum | recruitment staff member for what? |
| 05:38.38 | rrowland | He knew who I was and had seen most of my projects before |
| 05:38.47 | onetwo | ii respect taht |
| 05:38.50 | onetwo | he knows the community |
| 05:39.16 | rrowland | He was very sincere and said he couldn't get any level design people ovfer there but he'd make sure it got into their hands |
| 05:39.20 | Jum-Jum | raises eyebrow |
| 05:39.21 | Jum-Jum | blizz dude? |
| 05:39.25 | onetwo | nice |
| 05:39.25 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 05:39.32 | Tordy | a thousand people on the street |
| 05:39.32 | Jum-Jum | thats pretty awesome |
| 05:39.41 | Tordy | was d3 awesome |
| 05:39.41 | rrowland | Yeah he gave me his personal business card |
| 05:39.45 | rrowland | And said to call him |
| 05:39.49 | rrowland | To see how it went |
| 05:39.49 | Jum-Jum | win |
| 05:39.51 | onetwo | LOL |
| 05:39.54 | onetwo | hes like come to this motel |
| 05:39.58 | onetwo | we can "discuss" |
| 05:39.58 | rrowland | lol |
| 05:40.01 | Tordy | rrowland did you hug sixen for me |
| 05:40.01 | Jum-Jum | at 2am |
| 05:40.05 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:40.06 | onetwo | then sixen is there |
| 05:40.08 | onetwo | and rape happens |
| 05:40.08 | rrowland | Would I suck a dick for a job at blizz? |
| 05:40.09 | onetwo | oh no! |
| 05:40.11 | rrowland | Well |
| 05:40.12 | Miccrackens | IM ORDERING PIZZA AND EVERYONE IN THIS CHAT IS INVITED ITS GOING TO BE GAME NIGHT WITH XBOX PC AND WII |
| 05:40.15 | rrowland | No comment |
| 05:40.19 | Jum-Jum | Suck a dick for a cubicle job |
| 05:40.29 | rrowland | Well not just any job |
| 05:40.34 | rrowland | I wouldn't work as a GM lol |
| 05:40.37 | onetwo | its a career |
| 05:40.38 | onetwo | . |
| 05:40.38 | Tordy | SLAVE to blizzard |
| 05:40.39 | rrowland | Just level design or game design |
| 05:40.39 | onetwo | haha |
| 05:40.52 | rrowland | Tordy I didn't see sixen |
| 05:41.01 | rrowland | Btw |
| 05:41.01 | Tordy | :/ |
| 05:41.04 | rrowland | 1000 random people |
| 05:41.07 | rrowland | from blizzcon |
| 05:41.11 | rrowland | get d3 beta keys |
| 05:41.14 | Tordy | =o |
| 05:41.17 | Tordy | did youg et one |
| 05:41.25 | Jum-Jum | Just random tickets or what? |
| 05:41.28 | rrowland | I don't know |
| 05:41.29 | Jum-Jum | Or did you sign up for it? |
| 05:41.30 | onetwo | haha all 1000 are nexus wars map makers |
| 05:41.32 | onetwo | somehow |
| 05:41.37 | Jum-Jum | haha |
| 05:41.38 | Tordy | yessss |
| 05:41.42 | progammer_ | rrowland: how many ppl at blizzcon in persion |
| 05:41.45 | progammer_ | 2k ? |
| 05:41.45 | rrowland | Nah they announced it in the closing ceremony |
| 05:41.51 | Jum-Jum | ending ceremony of blizzcon "Thank you Nexus Wars mapmakers! You made what StarCraft 2 is today!" |
| 05:41.55 | rrowland | what prog? |
| 05:41.55 | onetwo | hahah |
| 05:42.01 | Tordy | gummy |
| 05:42.04 | Tordy | nappy |
| 05:42.08 | progammer_ | how many ppl are at blizzcon in person |
| 05:42.10 | rrowland | how many people were at blizzcon? |
| 05:42.13 | rrowland | like 25k |
| 05:42.17 | Tordy | whaaaat |
| 05:42.21 | Tordy | unexpected |
| 05:42.22 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 05:42.26 | progammer_ | the convention floor is that big ? |
| 05:42.28 | progammer_ | really ? |
| 05:42.30 | rrowland | There were about 30k tickets |
| 05:42.30 | Tordy | huge |
| 05:42.34 | rrowland | 4 convention halls |
| 05:42.39 | rrowland | put together |
| 05:42.42 | Tordy | what were you doin |
| 05:42.50 | Tordy | you better have been int he sc2 hall most of the time! |
| 05:42.57 | rrowland | Watching panels, watching sc2 compeition and playing D3 |
| 05:43.07 | Tordy | hell yea sc2 competitiion |
| 05:43.07 | progammer_ | yeah the tournament was epic |
| 05:43.10 | crazyfingers | yo rrowland you get a chance to play the winning entries? |
| 05:43.13 | Jum-Jum | Does D3 look promising? |
| 05:43.14 | progammer_ | almost every match was close |
| 05:43.17 | Tordy | so good seeing day9, tasteless and artosis together! |
| 05:43.18 | rrowland | No I wasn't on speaking terms with the SC2 hall |
| 05:43.25 | rrowland | They rejected my awesome map |
| 05:43.30 | Tordy | D: |
| 05:43.30 | rrowland | And took those 3 pieces of shit |
| 05:43.31 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:43.38 | crazyfingers | what 3 pieces of shit? |
| 05:43.38 | Tordy | what were the winners!? |
| 05:43.43 | rrowland | My map is up on sc2mapster btw |
| 05:43.43 | Jum-Jum | Hearing the panels D3 sounds really good |
| 05:43.43 | Tordy | i still dont know |
| 05:43.46 | crazyfingers | i know 2 of 'em |
| 05:43.46 | progammer_ | the two on mapster page |
| 05:43.47 | Jum-Jum | but I wanna know how it plays out |
| 05:43.50 | crazyfingers | from the mapster home page |
| 05:43.51 | progammer_ | and another one |
| 05:43.52 | Tordy | what else |
| 05:44.00 | Tordy | what do the winners win |
| 05:44.07 | crazyfingers | 3k and a ticket to blizzcon |
| 05:44.08 | Jum-Jum | a million dollars each |
| 05:44.10 | progammer_ | 5k |
| 05:44.12 | onetwo | what i like about d3 is it sounds like its just going to be fun; with sc2 there is so much worry about making something that fits korea from sc1 |
| 05:44.13 | Tordy | each!? |
| 05:44.14 | onetwo | and whatnot |
| 05:44.14 | crazyfingers | which at this point i'm glad i didn't go to |
| 05:44.18 | onetwo | but d3 is just free to make a good game |
| 05:44.19 | crazyfingers | save for hte Tenacious D concert |
| 05:44.29 | Tordy | 5k |
| 05:44.31 | Tordy | that is awesome |
| 05:44.42 | Tordy | did they even go? |
| 05:44.48 | Jum-Jum | tbh onetwo im surprised there havent been any good copycats of Diablo 2 |
| 05:44.51 | Tordy | well the RAD guy deserves it |
| 05:44.53 | onetwo | yeah |
| 05:44.54 | Tordy | not sure about the other ones |
| 05:44.55 | onetwo | so many games try |
| 05:44.57 | onetwo | but i can just see |
| 05:44.58 | Jum-Jum | so many people copied it and then they added something and just ruined it |
| 05:45.01 | onetwo | its not going to be as good |
| 05:45.06 | Jum-Jum | like Sacred and Titan Quest are the closest |
| 05:45.08 | Jum-Jum | but still bad |
| 05:45.09 | onetwo | yeah |
| 05:45.25 | onetwo | i think people just dont as good of game design sense |
| 05:45.26 | Jum-Jum | which makes me sad, because Diablo 2 was fun but to me it just gets way to repetitive |
| 05:45.26 | onetwo | who knows |
| 05:45.30 | onetwo | its true |
| 05:45.36 | progammer_ | no the RAD map clearly broke the rule |
| 05:45.37 | rrowland | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/13900-download-bovine-intervention-blizzcon-entry/#p2 |
| 05:45.39 | ItsAboutTime | most games need to release in a short time. blizzard has been sitting on diablo forever it seems. |
| 05:45.49 | Jum-Jum | Sacred would have been awesome if they actually put some work into the character you played |
| 05:45.56 | *** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~Christoph@150.135.211.242) |
| 05:45.58 | Jum-Jum | you had like 8 skills per character |
| 05:46.02 | rrowland | The RAD map was public for 2 months before the contest was announced, it was completely ilegible. |
| 05:46.04 | Jum-Jum | but it had a huuuuge open world |
| 05:46.04 | LordAbyss | hello everyone |
| 05:46.13 | Tordy | that too i suppose |
| 05:46.14 | onetwo | hi |
| 05:46.25 | Jum-Jum | herro |
| 05:46.25 | Tordy | o_o |
| 05:46.49 | rrowland | btw follow that link |
| 05:46.51 | crazyfingers | played your map earlier, very polished cutscenes and such |
| 05:46.54 | Jum-Jum | right, lan party for 3-4 people, coop games and epic rts games are welcomed. we played most of the games tho. any suggestions? tips? |
| 05:46.54 | rrowland | that's the map that should have won |
| 05:46.58 | crazyfingers | good stuff :D |
| 05:47.08 | crazyfingers | nah, cosmic eclipse shoulda won :D |
| 05:47.21 | onetwo | id be happy if any of you guys had won |
| 05:47.27 | onetwo | unfortunately for my cine, i have to admit defeat |
| 05:47.29 | rrowland | id be happy if i won |
| 05:47.31 | onetwo | i got beat out by the voice actors |
| 05:47.33 | onetwo | from the actual game |
| 05:47.35 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:47.35 | rrowland | did they allow sc2 cines? |
| 05:47.42 | rrowland | I think only wow cines won didnt they? |
| 05:47.44 | LordAbyss | so |
| 05:47.45 | onetwo | yeah |
| 05:47.46 | LordAbyss | any cool stuff |
| 05:47.50 | LordAbyss | from blizzcon |
| 05:47.51 | LordAbyss | today? |
| 05:47.53 | progammer_ | there's like only the third place is sc2 |
| 05:47.59 | progammer_ | but still have wow stuff |
| 05:48.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster kaseano (~kaseano@ip98-160-252-180.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 05:48.06 | rrowland | third was wow |
| 05:48.08 | rrowland | it just had tyfchus in it |
| 05:48.11 | rrowland | tychus |
| 05:48.19 | kaseano | all the units on my map randomly changed colors when i tested it this time & it seems permament |
| 05:48.22 | Jum-Jum | the first and second winners on the cinematic were really good |
| 05:48.26 | Jum-Jum | third one just felt like a cheap rip off |
| 05:48.28 | kaseano | any1 know what would do that ... |
| 05:48.31 | rrowland | honestly those cinematics werent very good imo |
| 05:48.34 | onetwo | 50,000$ production on 5k video |
| 05:48.34 | onetwo | haha |
| 05:48.37 | progammer_ | havent watch the first and second |
| 05:48.40 | onetwo | i havent seen 1 and 2 though |
| 05:48.41 | rrowland | i think next year instead of a map ill make a cinematic |
| 05:48.43 | rrowland | easy 5k |
| 05:48.48 | Jum-Jum | fu |
| 05:48.50 | onetwo | thats what i thought |
| 05:48.53 | onetwo | didnt work out that way |
| 05:48.54 | Jum-Jum | thats my plan |
| 05:48.54 | progammer_ | onetwo: search youyube, its on there |
| 05:49.08 | Jum-Jum | you can have second place rrowland |
| 05:49.21 | onetwo | searched youtube cant find it |
| 05:49.47 | Tordy | buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn |
| 05:50.02 | progammer_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkuGrxuv1IU |
| 05:50.28 | progammer_ | cant find the 2nd anymore |
| 05:50.44 | rrowland | sc2 cines are accepted right? |
| 05:50.49 | rrowland | it's so easy to make cinematics in sc2 |
| 05:50.51 | progammer_ | should be |
| 05:50.55 | progammer_ | now that the game is launch |
| 05:51.00 | rrowland | afk brb |
| 05:51.15 | onetwo | LOL |
| 05:51.20 | onetwo | i stopped at the kezan song part |
| 05:51.22 | onetwo | not much depth |
| 05:51.27 | onetwo | but i guess good for a crowd? |
| 05:51.41 | onetwo | sc2 cines are easy but voice acting and doing facial stuff is hard |
| 05:51.44 | onetwo | if you can make a cine without it kudos |
| 05:51.53 | onetwo | but it looks like therell be emphasis on having it |
| 05:52.11 | ItsAboutTime | btw just so people know why I joined the IRC. I am working on WOW The Trading Card Game. After talking to someone on the forum for a bit. they recomended joining here. |
| 05:52.23 | Mephs | wow the whating what game |
| 05:52.25 | onetwo | cool! |
| 05:52.55 | ItsAboutTime | i have a Team and Asset on SC2Mapster |
| 05:53.17 | ItsAboutTime | and I am very far into the build. |
| 05:54.12 | ItsAboutTime | I have every card (3500), and I am finalizing the rule library. |
| 05:54.56 | ItsAboutTime | I am using visual studio to write a SC2Lib Library file. XML 1.0 |
| 05:55.32 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:55.41 | onetwo | im just trying to use the data editor |
| 05:55.43 | onetwo | nvm that |
| 05:55.44 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:56.49 | ItsAboutTime | Its a mass about on info. I want to pre-process the whole game outside the editor. so that when using it in the editor. all the hard stuff is already done] |
| 05:57.00 | onetwo | ah yeah |
| 05:58.24 | ItsAboutTime | i index all strings. so they are only references in an array. brings the size way down. |
| 05:59.07 | ShadowTaisho | can i beta test? XD |
| 05:59.15 | ItsAboutTime | right now I am preprocessing what cards each hero can have in their deck. |
| 05:59.37 | ShadowTaisho | i wonder if anyone is gonna make a wow figurine game now... |
| 05:59.42 | ItsAboutTime | so you will be able to create any deck possible\ |
| 06:00.22 | ItsAboutTime | if you want to test. then goto my team SC2Mapster WOW The Trading Card Game |
| 06:02.27 | ShadowTaisho | link? |
| 06:04.34 | progammer_ | ItsAboutTime: are they all the wow card you want to implemment ? |
| 06:04.41 | progammer_ | so mostly dialog, no unit at all ? |
| 06:05.29 | ItsAboutTime | http://www.sc2mapster.com/teams/sciimapster-wow-trading-card-gam/pages/working/diagrams/ |
| 06:05.45 | ItsAboutTime | Every card in the game. 3500 |
| 06:06.14 | progammer_ | pretty ambitous |
| 06:06.18 | progammer_ | good luck :) |
| 06:06.20 | ItsAboutTime | you play horde or alliance. types of heros are computer players |
| 06:06.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dekar (~Dekar@p4FCEB579.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:06.39 | ItsAboutTime | check the link. I posted to the diagrams of what i have so far |
| 06:06.56 | progammer_ | you have tools to script galaxy and xml ? |
| 06:07.10 | progammer_ | how can you really handle card rule ? or wow rule are simple ? |
| 06:07.21 | ItsAboutTime | i am a .net programmer. and i wrote the tools in visual studio |
| 06:07.39 | progammer_ | (btw yu-gi-oh is the best TCG of all time, of all time :) _ |
| 06:08.32 | ItsAboutTime | ive never played. but I have 3 wow accounts since start of wow. i let them expire only 1 month ago |
| 06:08.38 | ItsAboutTime | love SC2 |
| 06:08.57 | progammer_ | check yu gi oh out, its rule is really complex and strategically |
| 06:09.10 | progammer_ | and quite popular |
| 06:09.23 | ItsAboutTime | i actually multi box 3 comps. I wrote my own AI Software. so blizzard cant detect only me using it |
| 06:10.03 | ItsAboutTime | but i dont play wow as of now |
| 06:10.15 | progammer_ | you made this also ? http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/space-traders-entire-universe-va/ |
| 06:10.28 | ItsAboutTime | have 2000 frozen orbs in a bank that useless right now. |
| 06:10.32 | ItsAboutTime | yes thats my team |
| 06:10.33 | progammer_ | all script thing you code yourself ? |
| 06:10.43 | ItsAboutTime | im a .net programmer |
| 06:11.06 | ItsAboutTime | i write libraries that you can import. |
| 06:11.11 | progammer_ | that skill could be helpful with this painful data editor |
| 06:11.26 | progammer_ | or any dull thing in this galaxy editor |
| 06:11.53 | ItsAboutTime | i have a libray sitting on my desktop that creates 500,000 english lang dictionary. but I can get it working as a mod. too big for map. |
| 06:12.29 | ItsAboutTime | i tried to use it as an asset. but i dont see the triggers |
| 06:12.35 | ItsAboutTime | i mean as a dependancy |
| 06:13.21 | ItsAboutTime | the way blizzard uses XML1.0 to import trigger libraries is quite simple really |
| 06:14.19 | ItsAboutTime | 2 complicated areas are. space's have to line up. and the ID must be unique and hex. |
| 06:14.43 | ItsAboutTime | so its simple |
| 06:15.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (~Raziel@95.76.133.23) |
| 06:19.02 | ItsAboutTime | its a very different way of mapping I know. but I have to use what i know in order to make a good map. this will be my first real map really |
| 06:20.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net) |
| 06:21.51 | ShadowTaisho | can i get a link to apply to beta testing ItsAboutTime? |
| 06:22.46 | ItsAboutTime | http://www.sc2mapster.com/teams/sciimapster-wow-trading-card-gam/ |
| 06:23.19 | ItsAboutTime | PM me. sldprt |
| 06:23.58 | RazielZ | TCG? |
| 06:24.01 | RazielZ | I want in |
| 06:24.33 | ItsAboutTime | if you PM me and reference the IRC channel Ill add you in for beta |
| 06:25.15 | *** join/#sc2mapster rrowland_ (45ead1e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.234.209.224) |
| 06:25.25 | rrowland_ | go away clone rrowland |
| 06:26.09 | rowland | hi |
| 06:27.18 | rrowland_ | hi |
| 06:27.54 | rrowland | hi |
| 06:29.37 | rrowland | its so quiet in here |
| 06:30.44 | ItsAboutTime | im here |
| 06:31.00 | rowland | Fing sixen |
| 06:31.33 | progammer_ | huh ? |
| 06:31.38 | rrowland | i agree |
| 06:31.49 | progammer_ | oh that's onetwo |
| 06:33.47 | rrowland | whom has not yet played my map |
| 06:33.55 | RazielZ | what map |
| 06:33.55 | rrowland | so many people were wanting to know what my map was for like 2 months |
| 06:33.59 | rrowland | now nobody cares lol |
| 06:34.24 | progammer_ | bdota have that effects |
| 06:34.43 | rowland | ive just been super busy |
| 06:34.52 | rowland | dont have a good chunk of time to sit down and play it |
| 06:35.07 | rowland | even my irc attendance has been slacking |
| 06:35.13 | RazielZ | what map |
| 06:35.42 | rowland | the one i made |
| 06:35.46 | rowland | its called bovine intervention |
| 06:35.57 | rowland | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/13900-download-bovine-intervention-blizzcon-entry/#p2 |
| 06:35.57 | RazielZ | what's it aboot? |
| 06:36.01 | ShadowTaisho | Hey I messagedu ItsAboutTime |
| 06:36.07 | rowland | you ever played the secret cow level in D2? |
| 06:36.12 | ShadowTaisho | *messaged U |
| 06:36.20 | rowland | well its nothing like that |
| 06:36.23 | rowland | well it is and it isnt |
| 06:36.32 | rowland | sorry im getting philosophical again |
| 06:36.46 | rowland | im having one of my rrowland moments |
| 06:36.49 | RazielZ | No but I played sacrifice and there was a spell called bovine intervention |
| 06:36.53 | rrowland | lol |
| 06:36.55 | mahashiro | hey guys, what makes an effect - target ability require a unit to be targeted? |
| 06:37.10 | rowland | the filters i think |
| 06:37.14 | rowland | in the ability |
| 06:37.15 | mahashiro | ok |
| 06:37.17 | mahashiro | which one? |
| 06:37.17 | rowland | or the effect |
| 06:37.24 | rowland | there shoudl be like target filters |
| 06:37.24 | ItsAboutTime | i added you |
| 06:37.28 | mahashiro | oh I meant unit instead of area |
| 06:37.43 | mahashiro | is that in target filters too? |
| 06:37.50 | rowland | well if you dont specify a target filter |
| 06:37.53 | rowland | itll hit ground |
| 06:37.55 | rowland | but if you do |
| 06:37.57 | rowland | itll require a unit |
| 06:38.00 | rowland | liek enemy |
| 06:38.01 | rowland | or flying |
| 06:38.02 | rowland | etc |
| 06:38.15 | mahashiro | sure |
| 06:38.29 | mahashiro | what's the filter for an area instead of a unit? |
| 06:38.43 | onetwo | wait what |
| 06:38.46 | onetwo | which one do you want |
| 06:38.50 | mahashiro | I was comparing something like irradiate to forcefield |
| 06:38.55 | mahashiro | and I couldn't tell the difference |
| 06:39.04 | mahashiro | I want the ability |
| 06:39.09 | mahashiro | to require a unit to be targetted |
| 06:39.12 | mahashiro | instead of an area |
| 06:39.52 | ItsAboutTime | use a player event |
| 06:40.08 | ItsAboutTime | and condition it |
| 06:40.13 | onetwo | okay |
| 06:40.16 | mahashiro | this isn't for a trigger |
| 06:40.17 | onetwo | so in your effect - target ABILITY |
| 06:40.19 | onetwo | theres a field |
| 06:40.24 | onetwo | Target filters |
| 06:40.26 | mahashiro | yea |
| 06:40.29 | onetwo | Ability - Target filters |
| 06:40.31 | mahashiro | which filter is it? |
| 06:40.34 | onetwo | so by default everythings checked |
| 06:40.45 | onetwo | what i usually do is uncheck |
| 06:40.50 | onetwo | ally neutral player |
| 06:40.52 | onetwo | FieldEngineer - Kaboom Ability - Target Filters(Excluded: Player, Ally, Neutral, Structure, Item, Buried, Dead, Hidden, Invulnerable) |
| 06:40.57 | onetwo | thats how one of mine looks |
| 06:41.00 | RazielZ | KA-BOOM! |
| 06:41.42 | mahashiro | k I'll try it |
| 06:41.43 | mahashiro | ty |
| 06:41.53 | onetwo | AS WELL |
| 06:41.56 | onetwo | in the effect that your ability does |
| 06:42.00 | onetwo | eg if its a damage effect |
| 06:42.09 | onetwo | go to effect - validators field in it |
| 06:42.15 | onetwo | and add one called 'target is enemy' |
| 06:42.16 | onetwo | eg |
| 06:42.17 | onetwo | FieldEngineer - Kaboom Damage Level 1 Effect - Validators(Target Is Enemy) |
| 06:42.45 | mahashiro | ok that works if I click on a unit like that |
| 06:42.51 | mahashiro | but I still can click on a point |
| 06:43.01 | mahashiro | and the ability still casts w/ an error |
| 06:43.23 | mahashiro | I want it to work like the irrad ability |
| 06:43.38 | mahashiro | or phase shift or anything that requires a unit to be targetted |
| 06:43.56 | onetwo | did you do the validator thing i mentioned? |
| 06:43.59 | ShadowTaisho | hey onetwo if you have a chance i sent u a pm >_< |
| 06:44.13 | mahashiro | oh my ability doesn't have an effect |
| 06:44.29 | mahashiro | this is a workaround w/ the trigger |
| 06:44.34 | mahashiro | you helped me w/ last night |
| 06:44.49 | onetwo | yeah i sent you a ton back |
| 06:44.50 | mahashiro | it works well except for this one thing |
| 06:45.07 | mahashiro | but I'm pretty sure I can figure this out |
| 06:45.11 | mahashiro | brb a bit |
| 06:51.38 | progammer_ | Terran theme song live at blizzcon |
| 06:51.39 | progammer_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SRlqTHE1aY |
| 06:52.18 | mahashiro | k it looks like it requires a set effect |
| 06:52.25 | mahashiro | you were right onetwo |
| 06:52.31 | mahashiro | that's the best way to do it I think |
| 06:52.49 | onetwo | kk |
| 06:53.08 | progammer_ | onetwo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SRlqTHE1aY |
| 06:53.16 | progammer_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTy_ZH7jjq4 |
| 06:54.02 | onetwo | lol shadowtaisho left |
| 06:54.07 | onetwo | i sent him like 20 lines of explanation |
| 06:54.17 | onetwo | saying nothing |
| 06:54.19 | onetwo | weird |
| 06:54.24 | onetwo | he said* |
| 06:54.25 | progammer_ | disconneted |
| 06:54.31 | progammer_ | he might not get what you send |
| 06:54.31 | onetwo | the thing is |
| 06:54.32 | onetwo | i told him |
| 06:54.35 | onetwo | before he asked in chat |
| 06:54.37 | onetwo | if i had a chance |
| 06:54.39 | onetwo | . |
| 06:54.40 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:54.53 | progammer_ | anyway check out that song live at blizzcon |
| 06:56.42 | onetwo | already commented |
| 06:57.34 | progammer_ | the only thing blizz managed to do wrong was the bnet |
| 06:57.47 | onetwo | i feel though, that that severely hurt their reputation |
| 06:57.54 | onetwo | we look at them different now |
| 06:58.04 | progammer_ | they are as big as a corporate |
| 06:58.09 | onetwo | i wonder if people got in trouble |
| 06:58.11 | progammer_ | so the bnet is total department |
| 06:58.13 | onetwo | for bnet |
| 06:58.26 | progammer_ | that some ppl have no idea what they're doing with their game |
| 06:58.30 | onetwo | like do you think morhaime called in the bnet team leads |
| 06:58.31 | onetwo | to have a 'talk' |
| 06:58.50 | onetwo | they must be aware |
| 06:59.06 | progammer_ | might have some talk but i dont see any firing |
| 06:59.12 | onetwo | company reputation and quality for fans |
| 06:59.15 | onetwo | is a pretty big thing |
| 06:59.39 | onetwo | i only buy valve and blizz games basically atm |
| 06:59.43 | onetwo | cause its the only ones i want to play |
| 06:59.45 | onetwo | through trust |
| 06:59.48 | onetwo | theyve done that |
| 07:00.12 | progammer_ | yeah |
| 07:00.18 | progammer_ | i'm waiting for portal 2 |
| 07:03.39 | grim001 | do any of you actually code in Galaxy? |
| 07:04.05 | progammer_ | grim001: rarely |
| 07:04.09 | progammer_ | but i can help |
| 07:04.23 | grim001 | I don't need help, I need more people to start coding in Galaxy |
| 07:04.31 | rrowland | your mom codes in galaxy |
| 07:04.44 | progammer_ | lol |
| 07:05.08 | progammer_ | is that kind of help you in some way |
| 07:09.32 | allenmelon | ooh portal 2, im anticipating that game |
| 07:09.55 | allenmelon | ohhi rrowland, i know what u look like now... |
| 07:14.29 | progammer_ | onetwo: all winner is listed here http://us.blizzard.com/blizzcon/ |
| 07:14.35 | progammer_ | no map contest winner whatsoever |
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| 07:15.11 | IDEATH | how do you use multiple map textures in a map?? |
| 07:15.33 | Jum-Jum | click on map textures |
| 07:15.43 | IDEATH | ok |
| 07:16.03 | IDEATH | so...? |
| 07:16.07 | Mephs | click on map textures |
| 07:16.11 | Mephs | until you have TONS of textures |
| 07:16.12 | RazielZ | i lold |
| 07:16.13 | IDEATH | thats for changing them |
| 07:16.29 | IDEATH | not using more |
| 07:16.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 07:16.42 | onetwo | cant |
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| 07:17.22 | IDEATH | i mean how do i use textures from agria AND aiur |
| 07:17.34 | Jum-Jum | you can only have 8 textures per map |
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| 07:18.00 | IDEATH | ok so how do i change the map textures with out exchanging them |
| 07:18.11 | Jum-Jum | so yeah you cant really add more than that |
| 07:18.42 | IDEATH | y? |
| 07:18.54 | Jum-Jum | you want all the textures from agria and aiur, right? |
| 07:18.54 | onetwo | you go to terrain texture sets in data editor |
| 07:18.58 | onetwo | and you can remove w/e you want |
| 07:19.00 | onetwo | from w/e terrain set |
| 07:19.03 | onetwo | and then add in new ones |
| 07:19.04 | onetwo | but max 8 |
| 07:19.09 | onetwo | then go to map->Map Textures |
| 07:19.12 | onetwo | and replace |
| 07:19.14 | onetwo | if you need to |
| 07:19.39 | rrowland | dont masturbate too hard allenmellon |
| 07:19.50 | IDEATH | thx +onetwo |
| 07:20.26 | onetwo | just onetwo is fine |
| 07:20.29 | onetwo | +onetwo doesnt ping me |
| 07:20.38 | IDEATH | k |
| 07:20.47 | Jum-Jum | looking at screenshots of my latest terrain |
| 07:21.07 | Jum-Jum | thinking of the "could be" if it wasnt for the limitations and the popularity and the... if it wasnt for blizzard! :( |
| 07:21.34 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:21.40 | IDEATH | onetwo how do i add textures tho? |
| 07:21.52 | Jum-Jum | you cant have more than 8 textures per map |
| 07:22.06 | Jum-Jum | 8 is the limit |
| 07:22.08 | Jum-Jum | and it sucks |
| 07:22.15 | IDEATH | that does suck |
| 07:22.17 | progammer | there are data mined from beta that some tilesets have 12 texture |
| 07:22.23 | progammer | but now its 8 currently |
| 07:22.34 | Jum-Jum | see |
| 07:22.35 | IDEATH | thats GAY |
| 07:22.36 | Jum-Jum | blizzard is taunting us |
| 07:22.42 | IDEATH | yea |
| 07:22.51 | Jum-Jum | they crave nerdrage |
| 07:23.04 | Jum-Jum | not a coincidence IdrA happens to be such a good player! |
| 07:23.26 | IDEATH | IdrA? |
| 07:23.32 | IDEATH | whos that? |
| 07:23.36 | Jum-Jum | an über nerdrager progamer |
| 07:23.47 | IDEATH | lol |
| 07:24.02 | IDEATH | well the defult is 6 textures |
| 07:24.11 | IDEATH | so how do i add 2 more |
| 07:24.16 | Jum-Jum | huh? |
| 07:24.20 | Jum-Jum | what tileset did you pick? |
| 07:24.22 | Jum-Jum | ive always had 8 |
| 07:24.51 | IDEATH | hmm |
| 07:25.14 | IDEATH | oh nvm |
| 07:25.29 | IDEATH | i was looking at the covert |
| 07:25.35 | IDEATH | and it only had 6 |
| 07:26.21 | IDEATH | but how can i add/remove textures?? |
| 07:28.06 | Jum-Jum | what do you mean? |
| 07:28.50 | Jum-Jum | I just click on the textures in Map Textures and replace them |
| 07:28.53 | Jum-Jum | not really much else you can do |
| 07:29.44 | IDEATH | i want to remove a texture from my current agria map than add a texture from bel' shir |
| 07:30.13 | onetwo | its funny now that im aware of it, but every movie that has been made since like digital color correction came out, always has cyan/green tinted shadows, and gold/beige tinted mid-hightones |
| 07:30.20 | onetwo | and even im hooked to doing it in my cine |
| 07:30.21 | onetwo | s |
| 07:30.25 | onetwo | it just makes it looks so good |
| 07:30.52 | onetwo | IDEATH go explore terrain texture sets, namely the one for agria |
| 07:30.55 | IDEATH | lol |
| 07:31.02 | onetwo | and change the textures in there to have something from belshir |
| 07:31.08 | onetwo | eg remove one tile you dont use |
| 07:31.17 | onetwo | then in map->Map textures |
| 07:31.21 | onetwo | you replace it again |
| 07:31.29 | onetwo | if you had painted with it |
| 07:31.29 | Tordy | hi there |
| 07:31.30 | Tordy | :) |
| 07:32.04 | IDEATH | oh ok i see |
| 07:32.26 | IDEATH | so there isnt a way to add a texture in the data editor? |
| 07:32.34 | onetwo | thats what im saying |
| 07:32.37 | onetwo | here let me just open the editor |
| 07:32.38 | onetwo | and do it |
| 07:32.43 | onetwo | cause i havent in months |
| 07:34.54 | onetwo | step 1. data editor step 2. Terrain texture sets tab of data editor. step 3 Click on Agria. step 4. Double click on Textures - Blend step 5. Click on one of the textures in the 'right' list and remove it... then pick something from the left list that you want ,e.g. from belshir, and 'add' it. Press ok and now in terrain editor you have it |
| 07:35.13 | onetwo | ^ assumes your map was made as agria when you went file->New |
| 07:35.41 | Tordy | was sotis made by one guy |
| 07:35.44 | onetwo | yes |
| 07:35.46 | onetwo | but he had help |
| 07:35.48 | onetwo | like PM |
| 07:35.59 | Tordy | ok so that's one guy |
| 07:36.01 | Tordy | close enough |
| 07:36.29 | rrowland | no |
| 07:36.44 | rrowland | he did not come up with the idea himself |
| 07:36.49 | IDEATH | ok i got it changed |
| 07:36.54 | rrowland | that took many people |
| 07:37.03 | rrowland | and he was not involved |
| 07:37.14 | Tordy | he made the actual sc2 map itself, that's what i meant |
| 07:37.19 | Tordy | the triggering, data |
| 07:37.20 | Tordy | etc |
| 07:37.30 | IDEATH | but my texture has the original textures outlines feather |
| 07:37.32 | Tordy | not counting ideas here since everyone "shares" or "borrows" ideas |
| 07:37.54 | rrowland | or "clones" |
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| 07:38.41 | ShadowTaisho | arg lagged out... |
| 07:38.51 | rrowland | arg |
| 07:39.17 | onetwo | k well i got a big paste for you |
| 07:39.21 | ShadowTaisho | k |
| 07:39.25 | Tordy | i got one for you too onetwo |
| 07:40.42 | Tordy | that's awesome |
| 07:40.51 | IDEATH | wat is? |
| 07:40.56 | Tordy | guest pass accounts can post on the forum, even after the guest pass is inactive |
| 07:41.02 | Tordy | you know what that means >:) |
| 07:41.06 | Tordy | nah i dont mean spamming |
| 07:41.11 | onetwo | free ice cream waffles at ihops? |
| 07:41.23 | Tordy | means i can troll onetwo!! MUAJHAHHAAHHA |
| 07:41.26 | Tordy | jk |
| 07:41.29 | onetwo | DONT YOU EVER |
| 07:41.29 | onetwo | EVER |
| 07:41.32 | onetwo | TALK TO ME LIKE THAT |
| 07:41.34 | Tordy | :( |
| 07:41.34 | onetwo | DO YOU KNOW HWO I AM |
| 07:41.37 | onetwo | I MISPELL |
| 07:41.37 | Tordy | hi onetwo |
| 07:41.41 | onetwo | hi |
| 07:42.17 | jorgenpt | I want to play Sorcerer's Defense :( |
| 07:42.23 | Tordy | time to troll the bastards i so wanted to troll for the longest time |
| 07:42.25 | Tordy | FUCK EM |
| 07:42.29 | Tordy | hi jorgenpt |
| 07:42.30 | jorgenpt | I joined a game, there were 3 people, and then the two others left. |
| 07:42.34 | Tordy | :( |
| 07:42.35 | jorgenpt | I'm all~ alone. |
| 07:42.37 | Tordy | i wanna play too |
| 07:42.57 | jorgenpt | US? :D |
| 07:43.20 | Tordy | >:[ |
| 07:43.33 | jorgenpt | ! |
| 07:55.08 | Tordy | jorgenpt |
| 07:55.10 | Tordy | hi |
| 07:55.13 | jorgenpt | Hi |
| 08:01.53 | Tordy | :) |
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| 08:02.53 | Mephs | hi storday |
| 08:03.37 | ShadowTaisho | mephs mind answering a mapping question for me? |
| 08:03.49 | ShadowTaisho | well more like 2 if you can't answer the first... |
| 08:04.02 | onetwo | http://vimeo.com/14321635 omg thats Fing awesme |
| 08:04.08 | onetwo | amazing how much post-effects go on |
| 08:04.12 | onetwo | in music videos |
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| 08:04.21 | Miccrackens | hello |
| 08:04.32 | Miccrackens | I am here |
| 08:05.28 | Miccrackens | is anyone here |
| 08:05.35 | Miccrackens | NOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 08:05.39 | Miccrackens | :(((( |
| 08:07.06 | ShadowTaisho | lol i am here |
| 08:07.12 | Miccrackens | yay |
| 08:07.12 | ShadowTaisho | and onetwo is hereish.... |
| 08:07.21 | Miccrackens | no he is canadian |
| 08:07.25 | Miccrackens | lol |
| 08:07.31 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:07.32 | onetwo | im half afk |
| 08:07.45 | onetwo | well shadow |
| 08:07.50 | onetwo | i dont know whats going on with your unit anymore |
| 08:07.51 | onetwo | seems weird |
| 08:07.52 | onetwo | but |
| 08:07.59 | progammer | i'm 25% here |
| 08:08.02 | onetwo | i have a photon cannon duplication tutorial on my youtube page |
| 08:08.03 | Miccrackens | haha |
| 08:08.05 | onetwo | if you havent watched it |
| 08:08.10 | onetwo | it might just give you a clearer sense |
| 08:08.14 | onetwo | of what goes where |
| 08:08.16 | onetwo | when duplicating |
| 08:09.12 | Jum-Jum | i watched that onetwo |
| 08:09.14 | Miccrackens | cool |
| 08:09.19 | Jum-Jum | and i would like to see an update on that |
| 08:09.21 | Miccrackens | wow no one is here then every one is |
| 08:09.23 | Miccrackens | lol |
| 08:09.23 | onetwo | ? |
| 08:09.25 | onetwo | what update? |
| 08:09.27 | Jum-Jum | because you duplicate half and say "you dont really need that" |
| 08:09.31 | ShadowTaisho | oh can i get a link? |
| 08:09.31 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:09.32 | Jum-Jum | but you dont explain why |
| 08:09.32 | onetwo | you dont |
| 08:09.33 | onetwo | now go home |
| 08:09.39 | Jum-Jum | yes but WHY |
| 08:09.40 | ShadowTaisho | lol |
| 08:09.45 | Jum-Jum | i hate tutorials that just go through everything |
| 08:09.50 | Jum-Jum | "click this, click that, and click here" |
| 08:09.53 | Jum-Jum | and theres no explanation to it |
| 08:09.54 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/user/OneTwoSC?feature=mhum#p/c/1788516449CE0BFD/0/75PKVg6YxHw |
| 08:10.10 | onetwo | well i explained why back in april |
| 08:10.15 | onetwo | now i assume people know :O |
| 08:10.18 | onetwo | but youre right |
| 08:10.20 | progammer | i hate it when youtube add stuff in the links for playlist and such |
| 08:10.29 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:10.42 | progammer | http://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?more_url=%2Fuser%2Fprogammer119&video_ids=ly2vw6wyeHw%2CEaRYGZGhAXE%2C5VUkgRRRwIU%2C5pGsKgj3Yyg%2CyPGG3s3agg0%2C-v4Rn1e_RgU%2Cho8gJOPtxz4%2CZGhlXn65l90%2CnMc2hpVpuCE%2CrXDp03A7m1k%2CVc1XxwOQmmk%2CD6wvF4Mz0SQ%2CWEp-KRV-teQ%2C_8L5sA6a3lU%2CrfSnnim_wIs%2CaS_fft7YD_s%2CpvpiOjg9yUc%2C5SfnVeYp0zE%2CMw7gK8xU5aQ%2CJz12QFUeRS8%2CK1z9xrcV2vs%2CcGeDKsZDzBk%2CgeZMyMAY_dc%2C1PgfREwc4Bg&type=14&feature=mfu |
| 08:10.45 | progammer | that for example |
| 08:11.11 | Jum-Jum | short link lol |
| 08:11.23 | Miccrackens | i need to be taught how to use the galaxy editor |
| 08:11.25 | Miccrackens | lol |
| 08:11.28 | Miccrackens | i want to learn |
| 08:11.29 | progammer | i'm just demonstrating the youtube auto adding play list |
| 08:11.36 | onetwo | k ShadowTaisho |
| 08:11.37 | onetwo | i hit new map |
| 08:11.39 | onetwo | went to data editor |
| 08:11.42 | onetwo | searched for spawning pool |
| 08:11.53 | onetwo | right clciked it, duplicated, checked off Spawning Pool under Actors |
| 08:11.58 | onetwo | then hit ok |
| 08:12.05 | onetwo | then double clicked my unit and renamed to Spawning Pool Test |
| 08:12.09 | onetwo | then went in to terrain editor and placed it |
| 08:12.10 | onetwo | worked fine |
| 08:12.21 | ShadowTaisho | all u copy is the actor? |
| 08:12.28 | onetwo | in this case, yes |
| 08:12.31 | ShadowTaisho | hmmm |
| 08:12.37 | ShadowTaisho | does it still work if i copy the footing? |
| 08:13.10 | onetwo | not sure why you would though |
| 08:13.29 | onetwo | for the most part you never need to duplicate footprints |
| 08:13.32 | onetwo | since so many exist tochoose from |
| 08:13.35 | onetwo | if you need to make it different |
| 08:14.07 | Tordy | hi there |
| 08:14.16 | Miccrackens | hello |
| 08:14.30 | Miccrackens | So |
| 08:14.45 | Miccrackens | How is everyone doing |
| 08:14.49 | Miccrackens | ??? |
| 08:15.05 | Tordy | hi Miccrackens |
| 08:15.37 | Miccrackens | hello |
| 08:15.54 | Miccrackens | mega super rawr |
| 08:16.33 | Miccrackens | everyone just dissapeared again |
| 08:16.43 | Miccrackens | :( |
| 08:16.51 | onetwo | working lol |
| 08:16.51 | Miccrackens | soooo |
| 08:16.56 | Miccrackens | lol |
| 08:17.07 | Miccrackens | iz ok |
| 08:17.52 | Miccrackens | sooo |
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| 08:19.54 | Demonette | Uhm how do i make a library? |
| 08:21.04 | Lilianna | buy some books and some bookshelves |
| 08:21.09 | Miccrackens | lol |
| 08:21.15 | Miccrackens | Lots of books |
| 08:21.16 | Demonette | i mean a sc2 library.... |
| 08:21.21 | Lilianna | :) |
| 08:21.23 | Miccrackens | and you need a lady to say shhhhhhh |
| 08:21.25 | Demonette | while this is a sc2 irc -.- |
| 08:21.44 | Demonette | i already lived in a real library i know how many books it would take |
| 08:21.44 | Lilianna | Soul Calibur too? |
| 08:21.52 | Lilianna | You can fight in a library I suppose |
| 08:21.56 | Demonette | no |
| 08:22.00 | Demonette | starcraft |
| 08:22.17 | Lilianna | I have no real idea, since Im too lazy to make a complete map |
| 08:22.26 | Lilianna | but I hear you save it as an sc2mod file |
| 08:22.27 | Demonette | starcraft 2 library for the trigger editor |
| 08:22.45 | Lilianna | or start a new map as a mod, import all your triggers and save it |
| 08:22.48 | Demonette | i thought i save it as an lib file... |
| 08:22.56 | Demonette | No |
| 08:22.57 | Demonette | XD |
| 08:23.06 | Demonette | i don't have a complete map |
| 08:23.14 | Demonette | i have a complete trigger |
| 08:23.17 | Demonette | ... |
| 08:23.29 | Demonette | thats why i want it to be in a sc2lib XD |
| 08:23.31 | Lilianna | Im meant import as copy paste |
| 08:24.04 | Lilianna | I wasnt aware there was an sc2lib filetype eithier |
| 08:24.59 | Lilianna | but fine, Ill open the editor |
| 08:26.05 | Demonette | i thought there was... |
| 08:26.08 | Demalii | it's lib |
| 08:26.57 | Demonette | i said that |
| 08:26.58 | Demonette | sc2lib |
| 08:27.00 | Demonette | found one |
| 08:27.06 | Demonette | the wasd movement lib |
| 08:27.08 | Demalii | yep |
| 08:27.17 | Demonette | and how do i create them? |
| 08:29.10 | Demalii | uh |
| 08:29.15 | Demalii | how to create a library? |
| 08:29.25 | Demonette | yea |
| 08:29.32 | Demalii | right click it and export. |
| 08:29.32 | Demonette | how do create a new library |
| 08:29.37 | Demalii | in the triggers.. |
| 08:29.39 | Demalii | top left |
| 08:29.46 | Demalii | you'll see built-in |
| 08:29.55 | Demalii | right click in that window |
| 08:29.57 | Demalii | create new library |
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| 08:31.20 | mahashiro | gnight guys |
| 08:31.26 | Demonette | OMG Thx it toked forever to load that menu.... (forever for a simple right click action) |
| 08:31.29 | Demonette | thx XD |
| 08:31.42 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 08:31.57 | Lilianna | I dont see a built-in window |
| 08:31.58 | Lilianna | :p |
| 08:33.06 | Lilianna | ah nm |
| 08:33.13 | Lilianna | toggle button needed |
| 08:33.53 | Demonette | XD |
| 08:34.27 | Lilianna | lots of triggers pre put together that you can use. :o |
| 08:34.28 | Lilianna | helpful |
| 08:36.00 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 08:36.08 | Demonette | well but this one isn't done so far ;) |
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| 08:39.15 | Tordy | thanks |
| 08:39.16 | Tordy | now what |
| 08:39.39 | Demonette | ? |
| 08:39.46 | Tordy | whoop |
| 08:45.51 | Demonette | whooopy |
| 08:46.38 | Tordy | hi Demonette |
| 08:47.16 | Demonette | Oh.... yeah hi tordy... |
| 08:53.13 | Clord | hmmmmmm |
| 08:56.45 | Tordy | Clord do you own $200 jeans |
| 08:59.20 | Tordy | ma name is da LORD |
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| 09:03.23 | Demonette | Oh... |
| 09:03.44 | Demonette | there now is a Players in Team 1 trigger... oO |
| 09:04.02 | Cintiq | is there a way to check if workers are holding minerals? |
| 09:04.37 | Cintiq | well |
| 09:04.39 | Cintiq | one specific worker* |
| 09:04.41 | Demonette | its an behaviour |
| 09:04.53 | Cintiq | how would i do a check for it with triggers |
| 09:05.22 | Cintiq | wait think i got it |
| 09:05.28 | Demonette | I don't i don't do much stuff with triggers |
| 09:06.09 | Cintiq | unit has behavior - minerals (mineral field) |
| 09:06.10 | Cintiq | perhaps |
| 09:06.44 | Cintiq | 'Carry mineral field minerals' |
| 09:06.45 | Cintiq | * |
| 09:09.50 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 09:09.53 | onetwo | ahha im watching Misery |
| 09:09.55 | onetwo | what a great movie |
| 09:10.02 | onetwo | james caan is playing her up so well |
| 09:10.17 | onetwo | fyi its the movie where hes trapped in that old woman's house |
| 09:10.18 | Cintiq | cheers Demonette |
| 09:10.21 | onetwo | writing stories |
| 09:10.25 | onetwo | in the cabin |
| 09:10.29 | Demonette | why should you? |
| 09:15.12 | Demonette | can i transform a Game-ID into an integer? |
| 09:15.26 | Demonette | Game Attribut ID i mean |
| 09:17.51 | onetwo | probably not |
| 09:17.54 | onetwo | but you can compare values |
| 09:17.55 | onetwo | and set an int |
| 09:17.56 | onetwo | based on that |
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| 09:19.08 | Rodrigo | People are sending me emails like "There's so many trolls on Debates!!!! Do something!!!!!" |
| 09:19.18 | Rodrigo | what the hell can I do?! |
| 09:19.36 | grim001 | use an anti-troll filter |
| 09:19.36 | onetwo | ? |
| 09:19.45 | Rodrigo | how |
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| 09:20.29 | grim001 | advanced anti-troll heuristics |
| 09:20.55 | Rodrigo | I've tried to prevent trolls making new admins all the time with power to penalize players' score and set on the game mode "NERDS ONLY" |
| 09:21.08 | Rodrigo | there's also a kick system |
| 09:21.14 | Rodrigo | that the players can kick a troll |
| 09:21.21 | Rodrigo | the problem is that 1 player cannot kick 7 trolls |
| 09:21.21 | Demonette | Uhm how should i compare the game attribut ID's if there isn't any useful chance to compare them with numbers (in the cause of number of teams) |
| 09:21.39 | Demonette | it will stay as a damn attribut ID and i can't get the value for an integer |
| 09:21.53 | Demonette | would be cool to extract this value somehow |
| 09:22.12 | Rodrigo | ? |
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| 09:23.56 | grim001 | demonette just make a function that converts attribute ID to integer |
| 09:24.04 | grim001 | index them if you have to |
| 09:24.27 | Demonette | Lol how to index a value that can be anything? XD |
| 09:24.56 | Demonette | maybe i should just take the hard way... it's ways easier XD |
| 09:28.26 | onetwo | ooooh fuccccck she put a board between his ankles and then sledgehammered his feet inwards |
| 09:28.28 | onetwo | ouch |
| 09:28.56 | Jum-Jum | uuuh? |
| 09:29.05 | onetwo | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100157/ |
| 09:29.06 | onetwo | on tv |
| 09:29.36 | Jum-Jum | read Anchorman and giggles to myself |
| 09:29.50 | Jum-Jum | "Theres no such thing as anchorwoman, and thats a scientific fact." |
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| 09:34.41 | progammer | ProzaicMuze: you there ? |
| 09:34.54 | progammer | i need a data specialist here |
| 09:35.14 | Clord | Debates.... it is the art of trolling |
| 09:35.15 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:35.24 | Clord | I mean generally |
| 09:35.43 | Clord | not just some map... lol |
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| 09:49.31 | Demonette | mmmhhh should work |
| 09:49.49 | Bibendus | Also featured on the convention floor are three winning custom maps submitted by players in the community map-making contest. |
| 09:49.51 | Bibendus | just that? |
| 09:49.55 | Bibendus | that's rediculous |
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| 09:54.01 | progammer | Bibendus: you know something about siteop actor |
| 09:54.11 | Bibendus | i used already done |
| 09:54.12 | progammer | is there any actor that make unit rotate indefinitely |
| 09:54.12 | Bibendus | xD |
| 09:54.17 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 09:54.20 | Bibendus | what do u mean |
| 09:54.21 | Bibendus | by time? |
| 09:54.30 | Bibendus | loops? |
| 09:54.31 | progammer | like i apply a site op that rotate unit |
| 09:54.51 | Bibendus | ye but |
| 09:54.51 | progammer | is there even site op that rotate facing |
| 09:54.53 | Bibendus | u want it to loop? |
| 09:55.01 | progammer | and is it gradually or instant |
| 09:55.06 | progammer | loop ofcourse |
| 09:55.09 | Bibendus | look |
| 09:55.18 | Bibendus | at the pylon |
| 09:55.25 | progammer | hm |
| 09:55.26 | Bibendus | it has the rotating thing |
| 09:55.29 | Bibendus | by sop |
| 09:55.34 | progammer | btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERNlqe_vZTw |
| 09:55.37 | Bibendus | it just rotates on x axis |
| 09:55.49 | Bibendus | ye epic :D |
| 09:56.10 | progammer | ok i see the pylonf thing |
| 09:56.19 | progammer | but its turret |
| 09:56.37 | progammer | yeah just turret |
| 09:57.28 | Bibendus | mm |
| 09:57.32 | progammer | i dont understand how turret work |
| 09:57.37 | progammer | can i define the whole model as turret |
| 09:57.38 | Bibendus | me neither |
| 09:57.40 | Bibendus | but u can do it :D |
| 09:57.51 | Bibendus | i suppose |
| 09:57.53 | Bibendus | u just rotate |
| 09:57.54 | harl | hi |
| 09:57.58 | Bibendus | the actor |
| 09:58.02 | Bibendus | the turret actor |
| 09:58.04 | Bibendus | with timing |
| 09:58.19 | Mephs | ~Bibendus |
| 09:58.23 | Bibendus | wut |
| 09:58.44 | Mephs | ~Bibendus is a man of many legs. |
| 09:58.44 | purl | Mephs: okay |
| 09:58.48 | Mephs | thx purl! |
| 09:59.02 | Bibendus | woot? |
| 09:59.03 | Bibendus | :O |
| 09:59.06 | Mephs | ~Bibendus |
| 09:59.06 | purl | somebody said bibendus was a man of many legs. |
| 09:59.13 | progammer | ~mephs |
| 09:59.13 | purl | methinks mephs is someone with three more yachts than you! |
| 09:59.18 | Mephs | ~progammer |
| 09:59.23 | Bibendus | i just have a third leg |
| 09:59.33 | Bibendus | not soo many however |
| 09:59.35 | Mephs | ~progammer is a chinese guy who can make anything happen |
| 09:59.35 | purl | Mephs: okay |
| 09:59.43 | progammer | lol |
| 09:59.53 | progammer | seems like my memory was blank |
| 10:00.09 | Bibendus | ~Mephs is a fag |
| 10:00.09 | purl | ...but mephs is already something else... |
| 10:00.11 | Bibendus | xD |
| 10:00.15 | Mephs | NICE TRY |
| 10:00.17 | Mephs | MAN OF LEGS |
| 10:00.22 | Mephs | BUT YOU HAVE BEEN THWARTED |
| 10:00.27 | Bibendus | still i don't get the meaning of that :D |
| 10:00.33 | Mephs | i dont know |
| 10:00.36 | Mephs | figure it out |
| 10:00.47 | Bibendus | i ll make my DK digging |
| 10:00.48 | Bibendus | instead |
| 10:00.59 | Bibendus | trygonometric calculations |
| 10:01.05 | Bibendus | i m so happy about this |
| 10:01.09 | Mephs | algorithims |
| 10:02.06 | Mephs | ~trygonometric |
| 10:02.15 | Mephs | ~trigonometric |
| 10:02.21 | Mephs | ~algorithm |
| 10:02.22 | purl | somebody said algorithm was a well defined sequence of operations used to perform a specific task in a finite number of steps. |
| 10:02.39 | progammer | i hate setting up those camera |
| 10:02.52 | Mephs | ~trygonometric is a poorly spelled description of something that is trigonometric |
| 10:02.52 | purl | Mephs: okay |
| 10:03.24 | Bibendus | rofl |
| 10:03.24 | Mephs | ~calculations |
| 10:03.27 | Mephs | ~calculation |
| 10:03.41 | Mephs | ~calculation is in the house, dawg |
| 10:03.41 | purl | okay, Mephs |
| 10:03.43 | Bibendus | ~asshole |
| 10:03.43 | purl | I don't have one of those, i'm a bot. |
| 10:03.50 | Bibendus | oh |
| 10:03.52 | Bibendus | ROFL |
| 10:03.52 | progammer | lol |
| 10:03.56 | Bibendus | omg ahahahha |
| 10:04.02 | Mephs | ~rofl |
| 10:04.02 | purl | it has been said that rofl is rolling on the floor laughing |
| 10:04.10 | Bibendus | yes bot don't have assholes |
| 10:04.10 | progammer | they sure add a big database for it |
| 10:04.10 | Mephs | ~database |
| 10:04.15 | Bibendus | ~fag |
| 10:04.15 | purl | hmm... fag is a impolite way of refering to bkw |
| 10:04.19 | progammer | ~bot |
| 10:04.19 | purl | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 10:04.22 | Bibendus | lol |
| 10:04.22 | Bibendus | bkw? |
| 10:04.27 | Mephs | ~database is how you store your dataAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 10:04.27 | purl | okay, Mephs |
| 10:04.41 | Mephs | ~golf |
| 10:04.41 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, golf is not a sport, it's a recreational activity that requires no physical exertion. |
| 10:04.47 | progammer | ~database |
| 10:04.48 | purl | it has been said that database is how you store your dataAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 10:04.57 | Mephs | hahahaahahahahahaaahha |
| 10:04.58 | Clord | I opened nexus wars US map in the editor and finally figured out how to use game variants properly for various team sizes |
| 10:04.59 | Clord | lol |
| 10:05.17 | Clord | it was surprisingly simple |
| 10:05.17 | Mephs | ~Clord opened nexus wars US map in the editor and finally figured out how to use game variants properly for various team sizes |
| 10:05.20 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:05.25 | Mephs | ~Clord is someone who opened nexus wars US map in the editor and finally figured out how to use game variants properly for various team sizes |
| 10:05.25 | purl | okay, Mephs |
| 10:06.17 | progammer | ~recursive |
| 10:06.17 | purl | ask me about recursive |
| 10:06.24 | progammer | huh ? |
| 10:06.26 | Mephs | haahahaaha |
| 10:06.27 | Mephs | i get it |
| 10:06.31 | Clord | Mephs.... did go go insane? |
| 10:06.32 | Clord | XD |
| 10:06.43 | Mephs | ~recursive |
| 10:06.44 | purl | ask me about recursive |
| 10:06.57 | Mephs | ~recursive |
| 10:06.57 | purl | ask me about recursive |
| 10:06.58 | progammer | ~loop |
| 10:06.58 | purl | Console utility. URL: http://home.midsouth.rr.com/biermans/ |
| 10:07.25 | Mephs | ~while |
| 10:07.36 | Mephs | ~burger |
| 10:07.36 | purl | it has been said that burger is a round patty of minced beef, fried or grilled and typically served in a bread roll. |
| 10:07.42 | Mephs | ~pickle |
| 10:07.59 | Bibendus | ~nutella |
| 10:07.59 | purl | it has been said that nutella is good |
| 10:08.03 | Bibendus | lolll |
| 10:08.03 | Mephs | ~pickle is a green and lumpy cucumber after its soul has been sucked out by pickle juice |
| 10:08.03 | purl | ACTION crams is a green and lumpy cucumber after its soul has been sucked out by pickle juice in a barrel, adds some brine and seasoning, and lets is a green and lumpy cucumber after its soul has been sucked out by pickle juice sit for a long while in a dark room until is a green and lumpy cucumber after its soul has been sucked out by pickle juice is ripe |
| 10:08.16 | Mephs | ... |
| 10:08.19 | Mephs | whattttt |
| 10:08.22 | Mephs | the fuck did i do |
| 10:08.28 | Mephs | oh god i broke it |
| 10:08.50 | progammer | ~purl go back to the kitchen |
| 10:08.58 | Bibendus | lol |
| 10:09.17 | progammer | ~kitchen |
| 10:09.21 | progammer | hm |
| 10:09.34 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IGoiujcn1M&feature=sub |
| 10:09.44 | progammer | ~kitchen is where I should be instead of here |
| 10:09.44 | purl | progammer: okay |
| 10:09.50 | Mephs | ~kitchen is where you get it on in the mo'an |
| 10:09.50 | purl | ...but kitchen is already something else... |
| 10:09.54 | Mephs | dammit |
| 10:10.17 | Mephs | ~butts |
| 10:10.17 | purl | ACTION squeezes mephs's butt |
| 10:10.23 | Mephs | ~quack |
| 10:10.23 | purl | from memory, quack is a headless gnutella client, or the noise of a duck, or enhances Emacs support for Scheme http://www.neilvandyke.org/quack/ |
| 10:10.34 | Mephs | ~moo |
| 10:10.34 | purl | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 10:10.38 | Mephs | ~clunk |
| 10:10.44 | Mephs | ~clunk is a guy who cant get no love from me |
| 10:10.44 | purl | okay, Mephs |
| 10:11.20 | Mephs | ~impulse |
| 10:11.20 | purl | impulse is probably often used as a masturbatory aid by young girls: ask me about jen-ni |
| 10:11.28 | Mephs | what |
| 10:11.30 | Mephs | ~jen-ni |
| 10:11.30 | purl | jen-ni is probably a kinky young temptress, who like to experiment with internal object dynamics when she was younger. Ask me about impulse |
| 10:11.42 | Mephs | ~impulse |
| 10:11.42 | purl | i heard impulse is often used as a masturbatory aid by young girls: ask me about jen-ni |
| 10:11.51 | Mephs | ~jen-ni |
| 10:11.52 | purl | i heard jen-ni is a kinky young temptress, who like to experiment with internal object dynamics when she was younger. Ask me about impulse |
| 10:12.00 | Mephs | ~impulse |
| 10:12.01 | purl | impulse is probably often used as a masturbatory aid by young girls: ask me about jen-ni |
| 10:12.20 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/for%20crash.png |
| 10:12.47 | Miccrackens | lol |
| 10:13.00 | Miccrackens | I AM HERE |
| 10:13.00 | Rodrigo | WATCH THIS: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tgbf-tv [I'm promoting Sc2mapster at 2:20] |
| 10:13.19 | progammer | ~rodrigo |
| 10:13.25 | progammer | ~rodrigo is a troll |
| 10:13.25 | purl | okay, progammer |
| 10:13.29 | Rodrigo | :( |
| 10:13.32 | Rodrigo | I'm not a troll |
| 10:13.41 | Bibendus | ~Rodrigo |
| 10:13.41 | purl | rumour has it, rodrigo is a troll |
| 10:13.50 | Bibendus | bot says it |
| 10:13.51 | Bibendus | so you are! |
| 10:13.57 | Bibendus | the bot never lies |
| 10:14.03 | progammer | ~lie |
| 10:14.11 | Rodrigo | what's wrong with sending comments to the shoutcaster of the blizzcon game Husky vs. HDStarcraft? |
| 10:14.14 | progammer | ~lie is the cake |
| 10:14.14 | purl | is the cake I deem you to be a liar, I am above reproach and my word is law. So it has been writen, so it shall be. |
| 10:14.41 | Mephs`zzz | ~Rodrigo is not a troll |
| 10:14.41 | purl | okay, Mephs`zzz |
| 10:15.08 | Mephs`zzz | ~Rodrigo is not a troll :( |
| 10:15.08 | purl | okay, Mephs`zzz |
| 10:15.15 | Rodrigo | it is funny how easy I can send messages in the middle of the blizzcon games |
| 10:15.29 | Bibendus | what? :| |
| 10:15.33 | progammer | why is this that some pharase can be overwritten and some not ? |
| 10:15.41 | progammer | or the bot is acting randomly ? |
| 10:16.15 | Rodrigo | ...... |
| 10:16.41 | Rodrigo | Just watch blizzcon game husky vs. HDStarcraft at 2:20 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tgbf-tv |
| 10:16.54 | progammer | ~rodrigo is still a troll :( |
| 10:16.54 | purl | ...but rodrigo is already something else... |
| 10:17.06 | Arthas- | a mexican jumping bean? |
| 10:17.17 | Bibendus | lol |
| 10:17.33 | Bibendus | husky sucked soo much xD |
| 10:17.35 | Bibendus | however |
| 10:18.54 | Rodrigo | im not mexican |
| 10:19.30 | Bibendus | but you are a bean |
| 10:19.37 | Bibendus | a jumping beam |
| 10:19.41 | Bibendus | bean |
| 10:19.42 | Bibendus | sry |
| 10:20.15 | rrowland | hello peopleof mapster |
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| 10:20.34 | Rodrigo | im not canadian, even though I live in canada |
| 10:20.39 | kaseano | my actor models don't scale up sometimes even when u change the scale, any1 ever have that problem |
| 10:20.47 | kaseano | the auto scale fixes it sometimes but not always =/ |
| 10:21.03 | Rodrigo | i am rodrigolian |
| 10:21.04 | Arthas- | Not canadian eh? Good for you :> |
| 10:21.12 | Rodrigo | ¬¬ |
| 10:21.14 | Arthas- | and elo rrow |
| 10:21.29 | Bibendus | looool? |
| 10:21.34 | Bibendus | search for starcraft 2 ums on youtube |
| 10:21.37 | rrowland | elo |
| 10:21.56 | Arthas- | Bibendus yeah? |
| 10:22.04 | Bibendus | ive gone soo high |
| 10:22.05 | Bibendus | on search |
| 10:22.29 | Rodrigo | hey rrowland, was sixen that grampa behind you? |
| 10:22.38 | Bibendus | ROOOOW |
| 10:22.42 | rrowland | no i didnt find sixen |
| 10:22.42 | Bibendus | did u notice |
| 10:22.45 | Arthas- | thats relevant to my interests |
| 10:22.47 | Bibendus | how they dodged all important questions? |
| 10:22.59 | Arthas- | cuz that man, was the most awesome dood at the con |
| 10:23.06 | rrowland | not true arthas |
| 10:23.10 | rrowland | iwas there too |
| 10:23.13 | Rodrigo | why no one asked about Blizzard policy stating that all maps are unappropriate?? |
| 10:23.17 | rrowland | he was secondplace |
| 10:23.21 | Arthas- | :p |
| 10:23.35 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdG9jQlQQvw&feature=player_embedded time 5:50 |
| 10:23.42 | Bibendus | row :D |
| 10:23.50 | Bibendus | rodrigo |
| 10:23.53 | Bibendus | u should have gone |
| 10:23.55 | Bibendus | lolz |
| 10:23.58 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 10:24.03 | Bibendus | cuz noone cares |
| 10:24.05 | Rodrigo | "YOU!!!! HERE!!!!" |
| 10:24.05 | Bibendus | i suppose :D |
| 10:24.11 | Arthas- | well |
| 10:24.17 | Arthas- | im sure some thought about it |
| 10:24.24 | Bibendus | rrow |
| 10:24.30 | Bibendus | did u go to the sc2 multiplayer panel then? |
| 10:24.31 | progammer | Rodrigo: will probably ask Qs like: Have you heard of NWW or Debates ? |
| 10:24.35 | Arthas- | buit the answer would probably have been in the lines for what happened when they mentioned popularity |
| 10:24.38 | Bibendus | lol |
| 10:24.38 | rrowland | yes |
| 10:24.39 | Rodrigo | LOL programmer |
| 10:24.52 | Bibendus | i suppose |
| 10:24.53 | Rodrigo | that was exactly what I asked on the Husky vs. HDStarcraft video |
| 10:24.57 | Arthas- | btw rrowland, did your map win? |
| 10:25.01 | Bibendus | his question would have been similar |
| 10:25.06 | Bibendus | to the kid that said he won the contest |
| 10:25.14 | Rodrigo | is sixen this jesus behind rrowland? |
| 10:25.18 | Arthas- | i mean |
| 10:25.24 | rrowland | no it didnt win |
| 10:25.27 | Arthas- | i still dont know what maps won the contest :( |
| 10:25.33 | Bibendus | yep |
| 10:25.33 | Arthas- | ekco then? |
| 10:25.39 | Arthas- | why was *he invited? |
| 10:25.40 | Bibendus | it was on computers |
| 10:25.43 | Bibendus | and we don't knwo |
| 10:25.43 | Bibendus | fu |
| 10:25.45 | Rodrigo | Burning Tide won the contest? |
| 10:25.47 | Bibendus | rrow??? |
| 10:25.48 | Bibendus | did u go |
| 10:25.50 | Arthas- | due to blizzard dota? :p |
| 10:25.55 | Bibendus | to see the winning custom maps? |
| 10:25.59 | Arthas- | Oh hai, you made a nice dota map. Work for us! |
| 10:26.16 | rrowland | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/13900-download-bovine-intervention-blizzcon-entry/#p3 |
| 10:26.21 | rrowland | thats my entry |
| 10:26.29 | Arthas- | is it on eu |
| 10:26.50 | Arthas- | oh it lags thar |
| 10:26.51 | rrowland | it isnt on bnet, its a download |
| 10:27.04 | Bibendus | s o rrowland |
| 10:27.06 | Bibendus | what maps where them? |
| 10:27.17 | rrowland | they sucked |
| 10:27.28 | rrowland | RAD was there, which is fucking stupid because it isn't eligible |
| 10:27.34 | Bibendus | FUCK |
| 10:27.35 | Bibendus | yes |
| 10:27.36 | progammer | btw check out my bdota clone atempt |
| 10:27.36 | rrowland | It was out 2 months before the contest |
| 10:27.37 | progammer | http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=4gt0ozkj4ma7ojh&thumb=4 |
| 10:27.38 | Rodrigo | Sixen is on the video (11:40) |
| 10:27.43 | Bibendus | the cannon thing |
| 10:27.47 | Bibendus | and what was the third??? |
| 10:27.55 | Bibendus | i even played ROD |
| 10:27.56 | Bibendus | fuck that |
| 10:28.06 | rrowland | Some stupid zergling map |
| 10:28.06 | Rodrigo | look at the blizzcon video. sixen is at 11:40 |
| 10:28.10 | rrowland | they were all bad |
| 10:28.10 | Bibendus | what?? |
| 10:28.10 | Rodrigo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdG9jQlQQvw&feature=player_embedded |
| 10:28.13 | Bibendus | zergling map??? |
| 10:28.27 | Bibendus | rod is nice |
| 10:28.30 | Bibendus | but inelegible.. |
| 10:28.33 | Miccrackens | i watched the match |
| 10:28.37 | Miccrackens | it was super |
| 10:28.40 | Miccrackens | fail for pro |
| 10:28.53 | Bibendus | rrow |
| 10:28.55 | Bibendus | what was the zergling map |
| 10:28.58 | Bibendus | do u remember the name? |
| 10:29.10 | rrowland | something like "this map is gay" |
| 10:29.16 | Bibendus | lol |
| 10:29.20 | progammer | what lol |
| 10:29.20 | Rodrigo | AWESOME T-SHIRT at 13:40 |
| 10:29.25 | progammer | gay is not censored |
| 10:29.26 | Rodrigo | I NEED that t-shirt! |
| 10:29.30 | Bibendus | bnet2 fails? |
| 10:29.39 | Bibendus | is that? |
| 10:29.40 | Arthas- | not bogjavel either |
| 10:29.43 | Rodrigo | Epic fail detected |
| 10:29.45 | Bibendus | xD |
| 10:29.51 | Rodrigo | the guy has guts to go to blizzcon with that t-shirt |
| 10:30.07 | progammer | well its true that bnet is the only thing failed |
| 10:30.15 | progammer | their game was still polished |
| 10:30.19 | Rodrigo | If I use that t-shirt, Nexus Word Wars, Debates, and Platform Defense are banned in the next day |
| 10:30.35 | progammer | suggestion please: http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=4gt0ozkj4ma7ojh&thumb=4 |
| 10:30.41 | Rodrigo | Starcraft art is just perfect |
| 10:30.48 | Rodrigo | the starcraft artists did an awesome job |
| 10:30.55 | Bibendus | row |
| 10:30.56 | Rodrigo | the campaing was good |
| 10:30.57 | Bibendus | your terrain sucks :D |
| 10:31.05 | Rodrigo | the design was good |
| 10:31.16 | Rodrigo | but battle.net is a completly fail. EVERYTHING ON IT |
| 10:31.38 | Rodrigo | I should have spammed on the blizzcon video "Battle.net 2.0 is a FAIL" |
| 10:31.50 | rrowland | have you actually played it or just opened the map |
| 10:32.01 | rrowland | it looks different when you're playing, diff perspective |
| 10:32.19 | Rodrigo | who was the third map who won? |
| 10:32.31 | Rodrigo | what was? |
| 10:32.44 | Bibendus | however |
| 10:32.53 | Bibendus | now i know the reason |
| 10:33.04 | Arthas- | well awesome map rrowland |
| 10:33.10 | Bibendus | of hiding winning custom maps |
| 10:33.10 | Arthas- | although it lagged shit for me :p |
| 10:33.12 | Bibendus | cuz they sucked :D |
| 10:33.17 | Arthas- | first map to do that :( |
| 10:33.23 | Bibendus | btw rrow |
| 10:33.24 | Bibendus | nice logo |
| 10:33.25 | Bibendus | xD |
| 10:33.29 | rrowland | lol ty |
| 10:33.37 | Rodrigo | I guess I have to download rrowland map..... |
| 10:33.42 | Arthas- | Rodrigo you do |
| 10:33.50 | Arthas- | hmm |
| 10:34.00 | Arthas- | did they announce the winners for the contest? |
| 10:34.04 | Arthas- | Their maps must be made of gold |
| 10:34.05 | progammer | Rodrigo: play it and then take your crap out of bnet |
| 10:34.12 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 10:34.12 | rrowland | the winners sucked |
| 10:34.24 | Rodrigo | let me first play rrowland map |
| 10:34.27 | Rodrigo | wait |
| 10:34.27 | progammer | literally, just look at the photon map on mapster |
| 10:34.38 | Arthas- | wait |
| 10:34.43 | Arthas- | that photon map really was a winner? |
| 10:35.04 | Arthas- | in that case, fuck them judges :p |
| 10:35.06 | rrowland | yes |
| 10:35.12 | Arthas- | rrowland you may not be humble |
| 10:35.16 | Rodrigo | that photon map SUCKS terribly |
| 10:35.27 | Rodrigo | I bet that wouldn't get close to the 1st page |
| 10:35.34 | Bibendus | rrow |
| 10:35.36 | Bibendus | subtitles |
| 10:35.37 | Arthas- | but you deserved a win :p |
| 10:35.42 | Bibendus | are images? |
| 10:35.44 | Bibendus | or ingame fonts |
| 10:35.49 | Bibendus | cuz i luv them xD |
| 10:35.49 | progammer | image |
| 10:35.52 | rrowland | images |
| 10:35.57 | progammer | i don think there are font like that |
| 10:36.01 | progammer | we cant do custom font either |
| 10:36.02 | rrowland | very painstaking to edit them |
| 10:36.03 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:36.08 | progammer | i think that would be interesting to have |
| 10:36.19 | Rodrigo | wow, I didn't know we could make structures on map editor O.o |
| 10:36.43 | Bibendus | programmer |
| 10:36.45 | Arthas- | thats cuz they were renamed :D |
| 10:36.53 | Bibendus | and how about the score points? |
| 10:36.57 | Arthas- | enums are there too (at least in gui):p |
| 10:37.15 | Rodrigo | this is so damn organized |
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| 10:37.19 | Arthas- | rrowland seriously mate, how many hours did you put into that map |
| 10:37.21 | Bibendus | i don't see the flamethrower effect |
| 10:37.22 | Bibendus | lol |
| 10:37.31 | rrowland | 30 days, 10 hours a day |
| 10:37.31 | Rodrigo | the only thing is missing is comments on the triggers |
| 10:37.34 | rrowland | 300? |
| 10:37.44 | rrowland | From the minute I heard of the contest to the minute it closed |
| 10:37.45 | Rodrigo | debates had comments on each trigger :P |
| 10:37.57 | Rodrigo | but ur triggers are more organized |
| 10:37.59 | Bibendus | do u know |
| 10:38.04 | Bibendus | its lagging on my fucking great computer? |
| 10:38.10 | rrowland | I lay out my triggers so they are redable |
| 10:38.13 | rrowland | They don't need comments |
| 10:38.19 | rrowland | readable |
| 10:38.24 | progammer | yeah i did the same, in hope of blizz actually read them |
| 10:38.28 | progammer | turn out they never |
| 10:38.53 | rrowland | Does it lag all game or just during the intro |
| 10:39.00 | Arthas- | all game for me |
| 10:39.15 | Arthas- | or well |
| 10:39.23 | rrowland | It is probably just stage 1 I bet |
| 10:39.27 | Arthas- | ah |
| 10:39.28 | Bibendus | oh fuck |
| 10:39.32 | Bibendus | i m lagging cause of looping trigger |
| 10:39.33 | Bibendus | and console :D |
| 10:39.37 | rrowland | Get to the first boss and beyond and tell me if it still lags |
| 10:39.41 | Bibendus | row |
| 10:39.44 | rrowland | And yeah if you have console open that is why you lag |
| 10:39.46 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:39.53 | Bibendus | score points |
| 10:39.58 | Bibendus | are ingame fonts? |
| 10:40.01 | Bibendus | or custom too |
| 10:40.03 | Rodrigo | rrowland, excelent loading screen! very simple and well done |
| 10:40.13 | rrowland | thanks rodrigo |
| 10:40.26 | rrowland | the points are about 10 images |
| 10:40.30 | Rodrigo | that V in a bovine word was very nice |
| 10:40.32 | rrowland | 1 for each number |
| 10:40.33 | Bibendus | oh k :D |
| 10:40.35 | rrowland | digit* |
| 10:40.36 | Bibendus | i supposes that |
| 10:40.43 | Rodrigo | let me play now |
| 10:40.49 | Bibendus | lol |
| 10:40.59 | Bibendus | i was making |
| 10:41.04 | Bibendus | a fucking complex phisic game |
| 10:41.09 | Bibendus | and i didnt manage to complete it in time :| |
| 10:41.14 | rrowland | =/ |
| 10:41.23 | Bibendus | all about skying and flying |
| 10:41.40 | Rodrigo | ok, rrowland, here might be one of the causes it didnt win: |
| 10:41.52 | Rodrigo | 1st: There's no exit menu, and Blizzard terribly hates that |
| 10:42.24 | Rodrigo | you could have let the menu bar on the top (instead of hiding UI, you hide all elements individually, but leave the menu bar) |
| 10:42.25 | rrowland | No exit menu? |
| 10:42.29 | rrowland | f10 |
| 10:42.30 | Rodrigo | yeah, on the top |
| 10:42.41 | Rodrigo | but blizzard hates when you hide it |
| 10:42.48 | rrowland | shrug |
| 10:42.51 | Rodrigo | they want people to be able to exit a map using the mouse |
| 10:42.56 | rrowland | Doubt that would prevent it from winning |
| 10:42.59 | Rodrigo | they said that on the blizzcon |
| 10:43.07 | rrowland | Honestly it was probably the bnet lag |
| 10:43.18 | rrowland | Which for the most part is beyond my control |
| 10:43.20 | progammer | Rodrigo: they mention that they have to patch it |
| 10:43.21 | Rodrigo | well, 2nd: there's nothing saying I should press space to go to the next message |
| 10:43.24 | rrowland | That's why no WASD maps won |
| 10:43.26 | progammer | so map can open the menu by F10 |
| 10:43.31 | progammer | even when its disabled |
| 10:43.40 | Rodrigo | 3rd: battle.net lag |
| 10:44.00 | rrowland | You should know to press space since that's the button you pressed at the start |
| 10:44.04 | rrowland | "Press Spacebar" |
| 10:44.08 | Bibendus | i like the presentation |
| 10:44.11 | Bibendus | and the gui |
| 10:44.15 | Bibendus | i mean all graphical aspect |
| 10:44.19 | Bibendus | but i don't like the gameplay |
| 10:44.25 | Bibendus | mine is better i mean :D |
| 10:44.26 | Rodrigo | the font is impressible! I liked this subtitle dialog |
| 10:44.36 | Bibendus | sure its better |
| 10:44.39 | Bibendus | then photon cannon shit |
| 10:44.45 | Rodrigo | rrowland, "press spacebar" is only at the beggining |
| 10:44.51 | Bibendus | OOOH FATTY |
| 10:44.52 | Bibendus | xD |
| 10:45.00 | Rodrigo | I'm reading the bull talking |
| 10:45.12 | Rodrigo | theres "press escape to skip" on the top |
| 10:45.24 | Rodrigo | but that's irrelevant |
| 10:45.25 | Arthas- | well |
| 10:45.29 | Arthas- | the lag was terrible |
| 10:45.32 | Rodrigo | you map wouldn't lose just because of that |
| 10:45.37 | Rodrigo | let me keep playing |
| 10:45.49 | Rodrigo | 4th |
| 10:45.56 | Rodrigo | you are using the word "apes" |
| 10:46.01 | Arthas- | it would lag on minimum aswell for me :p |
| 10:46.03 | Rodrigo | isn't that word banned? |
| 10:46.09 | rrowland | apes? lol |
| 10:46.09 | progammer | no rape is banned |
| 10:46.21 | Arthas- | wellm, then dont call it rape |
| 10:46.24 | progammer | that why you got grape banned |
| 10:46.25 | Rodrigo | yah, but that was something similar to apes that is banned |
| 10:46.25 | Arthas- | just surprise sex |
| 10:46.33 | Rodrigo | yeah, grape is banned |
| 10:47.25 | Bibendus | u know row |
| 10:47.28 | Bibendus | the attacks |
| 10:47.30 | Rodrigo | I would make the beggining presentation a little faster, but that's totally irrelevant |
| 10:47.31 | Bibendus | should make the effect |
| 10:47.35 | Bibendus | even when no target is found |
| 10:47.55 | rrowland | Yeah, well I had a month and I did the absolute necessities first |
| 10:48.03 | Rodrigo | where is the sound of the units?!?!?!?!?!?!??! |
| 10:48.04 | rrowland | And that was a cosmetic issue I didn't have time to address |
| 10:48.12 | Rodrigo | my bull has no sound! |
| 10:48.15 | Bibendus | and grenades should have a minimum range lol |
| 10:48.26 | Bibendus | row it would have been simple |
| 10:48.27 | Bibendus | to do :D |
| 10:48.33 | Bibendus | and it means a lot |
| 10:48.35 | Bibendus | not just cosmetic |
| 10:49.13 | rrowland | Nah it works the same either way, it's still casting the spell |
| 10:49.22 | rrowland | But it's a beam actor so it only shows when it's in range |
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| 10:50.33 | Bibendus | fuuck |
| 10:50.34 | Bibendus | that was hard |
| 10:50.35 | Bibendus | lol |
| 10:50.51 | Bibendus | nono u can see it |
| 10:50.54 | Bibendus | but if u have no target |
| 10:50.57 | Bibendus | the beam is not shown |
| 10:51.02 | Bibendus | just place a dummy invis unit |
| 10:51.06 | Bibendus | when no units is present |
| 10:51.10 | Bibendus | and cast the effect on it |
| 10:51.18 | Bibendus | that's a big improve |
| 10:51.23 | Bibendus | and the first boss was too hard lol |
| 10:51.39 | rrowland | But was it fun |
| 10:51.39 | Bibendus | score screen imba .D |
| 10:51.40 | Rodrigo | ok I played it |
| 10:51.51 | Bibendus | how many levels row? |
| 10:51.51 | rrowland | Out of all 6 stages I found the first boss most fun myself |
| 10:51.57 | Bibendus | omg 6? |
| 10:51.59 | Bibendus | how did u finish them |
| 10:52.00 | rrowland | 3 levels 3 bosses |
| 10:52.00 | Bibendus | so fast |
| 10:52.01 | Bibendus | lol |
| 10:52.11 | Rodrigo | rrowland, you completly locked the mouse. I couldn't even click outside my windows (im playing starcraft on windowed mode) |
| 10:52.16 | Bibendus | ye |
| 10:52.19 | Rodrigo | I wanted to jumpo to sc2mapster chat |
| 10:52.19 | Bibendus | thinking the same lol |
| 10:52.23 | Bibendus | alt tab ftw |
| 10:52.24 | Rodrigo | I couldnt |
| 10:52.33 | Rodrigo | I had to alttab |
| 10:52.41 | rrowland | Pretty sure that's how locking the mouse works in sc2 |
| 10:52.52 | rrowland | But that's not a consideration for the contest im sure lol |
| 10:52.54 | rrowland | Alt tabbing |
| 10:53.24 | Bibendus | why |
| 10:53.28 | Bibendus | cant i flamethrower in air? :D |
| 10:53.33 | Rodrigo | yeah, but I dont think blizzard likes that. The heuristic evaluation of a good design clearly states that the user(player) must have a clear and easy way to exit. |
| 10:53.50 | Rodrigo | your cartoon style was impressive |
| 10:53.57 | Bibendus | AHAHAHA |
| 10:53.58 | Bibendus | i jumped |
| 10:54.00 | Rodrigo | the life bar and everything was well made |
| 10:54.04 | Bibendus | and a flying scourge got me |
| 10:54.05 | Bibendus | ROFL |
| 10:54.10 | rrowland | kik |
| 10:54.11 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:54.13 | Bibendus | i tought they were extetic |
| 10:54.15 | Bibendus | xD |
| 10:54.18 | rrowland | nope |
| 10:54.21 | Bibendus | however nice work |
| 10:54.22 | Bibendus | lol |
| 10:54.28 | Rodrigo | but the fun in the beggining, I was kind of bored of so much tutorials. |
| 10:54.30 | Bibendus | i like the turrets in background |
| 10:54.31 | Bibendus | ahahha |
| 10:54.37 | Bibendus | u can skip them |
| 10:54.39 | Bibendus | oh |
| 10:54.41 | Bibendus | tutorials |
| 10:54.42 | Bibendus | :D |
| 10:54.42 | Rodrigo | and when I shooted, it had no sound on the beggining |
| 10:54.55 | Bibendus | rodrigo its the problem i said |
| 10:54.57 | Bibendus | if u have no target |
| 10:55.02 | Bibendus | the beam is not shown |
| 10:55.14 | Rodrigo | they problably didnt like that |
| 10:55.35 | rrowland | Wasn't perfect. I had a month |
| 10:55.42 | Bibendus | and i cant shot while moving :| |
| 10:55.56 | Bibendus | i mean it doesnt stop to attack |
| 10:56.00 | Bibendus | he continues walking |
| 10:56.04 | Bibendus | that's an usability problem D |
| 10:56.04 | Bibendus | :D |
| 10:56.18 | Rodrigo | and the gameplay, the only thing I was doing was shooting, maybe because I couldn't learn very well (I wasn't paying attention on the tutorial anyway) |
| 10:56.21 | rrowland | You can actually attack while moving if you tap space |
| 10:56.41 | rrowland | But the thing is turning/issuing move orders forces a unit to stop attacking |
| 10:56.42 | Rodrigo | I was like "should I just shoot? wait! I am dead! why am I dead?" |
| 10:56.58 | Rodrigo | I died in the first enemy on the easiest difficulty :P |
| 10:57.03 | Bibendus | oh fuck |
| 10:57.04 | Bibendus | i got pwned |
| 10:57.05 | Bibendus | xD |
| 10:57.07 | Bibendus | again |
| 10:57.12 | Bibendus | k ill stop playing :| |
| 10:57.20 | rrowland | You didn't pay attention to the tutorial and didn't know you had extra weapons? |
| 10:57.24 | rrowland | Sounds like a user error |
| 10:57.29 | Bibendus | trigger check |
| 10:57.33 | Bibendus | stop moving and attack |
| 10:57.38 | Bibendus | then continue moving |
| 10:57.42 | Rodrigo | the game design is polished and well done, but it lacks a little bit of fun, maybe because it's not very much my game style |
| 10:57.48 | Bibendus | what row? |
| 10:57.53 | Bibendus | grenades and flame? |
| 10:57.56 | rrowland | Or because you were only using yourspacebar |
| 10:57.57 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:58.11 | Rodrigo | I tried grenades and flame thrower too |
| 10:58.18 | Bibendus | however a control problem |
| 10:58.24 | Bibendus | having 3 attacks |
| 10:58.28 | Bibendus | in 3 different positions |
| 10:58.30 | Bibendus | is annoying |
| 10:58.35 | rrowland | ? |
| 10:58.39 | Bibendus | WASD |
| 10:58.44 | Bibendus | in a game with no mouse control |
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| 10:58.46 | Bibendus | are unuseful |
| 10:58.51 | Rodrigo | however, the map that won the contest is worse |
| 10:58.56 | rrowland | Felt natural for me |
| 10:58.57 | Bibendus | i was using arrows ok |
| 10:58.57 | Demalii | rod |
| 10:59.00 | rrowland | I could play with 1 hand |
| 10:59.01 | Bibendus | how can u move |
| 10:59.02 | Bibendus | with WASD |
| 10:59.07 | Bibendus | and use weapons Q E |
| 10:59.09 | Bibendus | with the same hand? |
| 10:59.11 | rrowland | You can also use arrow keys |
| 10:59.14 | Bibendus | i know |
| 10:59.15 | Bibendus | i did :D |
| 10:59.17 | Bibendus | but |
| 10:59.19 | Bibendus | Q E SPACE |
| 10:59.21 | Bibendus | are 2 far |
| 10:59.23 | rrowland | And it felt natural to me |
| 10:59.25 | Bibendus | space |
| 10:59.27 | rrowland | WASDQE |
| 10:59.28 | Bibendus | should have been jump |
| 10:59.39 | Bibendus | believe me :D |
| 10:59.40 | Rodrigo | rroland, so I guess I just didn't learn how to play properly, but since battle.net has a lot of kids, the map has to be extremly easy to learn |
| 10:59.44 | Bibendus | didnt u listen the feedback part |
| 10:59.48 | Bibendus | from blizzard guys? |
| 10:59.48 | Bibendus | xD |
| 10:59.59 | rrowland | What part? |
| 11:00.00 | Bibendus | its easy |
| 11:00.01 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 11:00.04 | Bibendus | the thing |
| 11:00.06 | Bibendus | listen feedbacks |
| 11:00.07 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:00.14 | Rodrigo | well, I died very easily :P |
| 11:00.18 | rrowland | I don't know what you're referring to |
| 11:00.21 | Bibendus | u know i m working on sidescrollers |
| 11:00.22 | Bibendus | :D |
| 11:00.25 | Bibendus | believe me |
| 11:00.27 | Bibendus | that controls suck |
| 11:00.30 | Bibendus | i got pwned for that |
| 11:00.35 | Bibendus | grenades |
| 11:00.40 | Bibendus | should hav min range |
| 11:00.57 | Bibendus | jump is unintuitive |
| 11:01.00 | rrowland | Then when you get surrounded by lings you're dead |
| 11:01.04 | Bibendus | and attacks are 2 far |
| 11:01.14 | Bibendus | nope i got pwned at 2nd stage |
| 11:01.14 | rrowland | Attacks are right next toyour hand |
| 11:01.38 | Rodrigo | rrowland, that guy on the blizzcon was talking about your map. He was trying to express that your map is great, it has a lot of details, it's well polished, but it has to start easy |
| 11:01.40 | rrowland | If you didn't use WASD then that's your own deal -- Designed for WASD |
| 11:01.52 | Bibendus | but even with WASD |
| 11:01.53 | rrowland | Huh?? |
| 11:01.57 | Rodrigo | the first enemy and that hundres of nydus word just destroyed me completly |
| 11:01.57 | Bibendus | how can u shoot and move with the same hand? |
| 11:02.03 | rrowland | Who was talking about my map? |
| 11:02.07 | Rodrigo | hundreds* |
| 11:02.12 | Bibendus | and why should someone use only 1 hand to play? |
| 11:02.26 | rrowland | Rodrigo what feedback? |
| 11:02.26 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:02.29 | Bibendus | rodrigo is jocking |
| 11:02.30 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:02.32 | rrowland | Did I miss something? |
| 11:02.41 | Bibendus | don't u get jokes? |
| 11:02.41 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:02.58 | Bibendus | OHHHHH |
| 11:02.59 | Bibendus | rowland |
| 11:02.59 | progammer | Rodrigo: he's not joking, he just noobish |
| 11:03.01 | Bibendus | who was the kid |
| 11:03.01 | Rodrigo | rroland, I think that guy on blizzcon talking about feedback and easy-to-learn and fun was thinking in ur map. |
| 11:03.02 | rrowland | No because I have no idea what either of you guys are talking about now |
| 11:03.11 | Bibendus | that claimed the winning of blizz map contest? |
| 11:03.12 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:03.26 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/for%20crash.png |
| 11:03.26 | Bibendus | didn't u want to punch him in the face? |
| 11:03.26 | Rodrigo | yeah |
| 11:03.33 | Rodrigo | LOL |
| 11:03.37 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:03.42 | rrowland | Punch who/ |
| 11:03.44 | rrowland | ? |
| 11:03.45 | Rodrigo | 90% of people there wanted to punch him in the face |
| 11:03.46 | Bibendus | the little kid |
| 11:03.48 | Bibendus | that said |
| 11:03.54 | Bibendus | i won the custom map contest, how many entries? |
| 11:04.03 | Bibendus | he was arrogant more then rodrigo |
| 11:04.03 | Rodrigo | oh, that one? |
| 11:04.04 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:04.07 | Rodrigo | :( |
| 11:04.10 | Bibendus | oh no wait |
| 11:04.11 | Rodrigo | :*( |
| 11:04.13 | Bibendus | ~rodrigo |
| 11:04.13 | purl | i guess rodrigo is not a troll :( |
| 11:04.18 | Bibendus | oh fuck |
| 11:04.20 | Bibendus | he was a troll! |
| 11:04.24 | Rodrigo | :**( |
| 11:04.27 | Bibendus | ~Rodrigo is actually a troll |
| 11:04.27 | purl | ...but rodrigo is already something else... |
| 11:04.31 | Bibendus | ! |
| 11:04.35 | Bibendus | ~rodrigo |
| 11:04.35 | purl | well, rodrigo is not a troll :( |
| 11:04.38 | Bibendus | FUUU |
| 11:04.42 | Bibendus | :D |
| 11:04.44 | rrowland | I don't know if your first language is english but I'm not catching on to your sarcasm or jokes right now |
| 11:04.52 | Bibendus | rrow |
| 11:04.58 | Bibendus | did u miss |
| 11:05.00 | Bibendus | the little kid? |
| 11:05.10 | Rodrigo | My question for them will be SO DIRECT that they wouldn't be able to dodge. Simple words: "DO YOU PLAN TO FIX POPULARITY SYSTEM?" |
| 11:05.10 | Bibendus | u were there! |
| 11:05.14 | rrowland | what kid |
| 11:05.17 | Rodrigo | would be* |
| 11:05.20 | Bibendus | making Q&A |
| 11:05.23 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 11:05.26 | Bibendus | at custom map panel |
| 11:05.42 | rrowland | i left after i asked my question lol |
| 11:05.45 | Bibendus | oh |
| 11:05.46 | Bibendus | ROFL |
| 11:05.48 | rrowland | what did the kid say |
| 11:05.51 | Bibendus | why? |
| 11:05.51 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:05.53 | Bibendus | here |
| 11:05.56 | Bibendus | i ll search it for u |
| 11:05.58 | Clord | these bugs sometimes don't make any sense... >_> |
| 11:06.07 | Bibendus | oh |
| 11:06.12 | Bibendus | and to answer your question about protection |
| 11:06.23 | Rodrigo | the guy who won the contest was like "Hey everybody! I am a good map maker! I won the contest!" Everyone was like "Who cares about ur retard map?" |
| 11:06.23 | Bibendus | they sayd in the sc2 multiplayer panel |
| 11:06.33 | Bibendus | that the market (i suppose with protection) should come with heart of the swarm |
| 11:06.38 | rrowland | multiplayer came today |
| 11:06.43 | rrowland | my question was yesterday |
| 11:06.46 | Bibendus | mmmm |
| 11:06.47 | rrowland | but anyway |
| 11:06.49 | Bibendus | its yesterday for me |
| 11:06.50 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:06.55 | rrowland | I only asked that question because its all I could think of |
| 11:06.55 | Bibendus | europe :D |
| 11:07.02 | rrowland | And I wanted to plug mapster and find sixen |
| 11:07.03 | Bibendus | oh u didnt care? |
| 11:07.04 | Bibendus | :D |
| 11:07.05 | Bibendus | ye |
| 11:07.09 | Bibendus | did u find him? |
| 11:07.12 | rrowland | nope |
| 11:07.18 | Bibendus | where the fuck was hiiiiiim |
| 11:07.24 | Rodrigo | sixten is that grampa |
| 11:07.27 | Bibendus | he didnt make questions |
| 11:07.31 | Bibendus | ahahahah |
| 11:07.34 | Bibendus | the guy that ask |
| 11:07.36 | Bibendus | about campaigns? |
| 11:07.37 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:07.39 | Rodrigo | yeah |
| 11:07.41 | Bibendus | loool |
| 11:07.41 | Rodrigo | that's sixen |
| 11:07.49 | Bibendus | i hope he wasnt |
| 11:07.49 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:07.54 | Rodrigo | LOL |
| 11:08.01 | Rodrigo | that guy was freaking funny |
| 11:08.12 | Rodrigo | he should have asked a diablo question there |
| 11:08.15 | Rodrigo | to make things more epic |
| 11:08.34 | Clord | SCII is already depleted.... now for WCIV |
| 11:08.36 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:08.42 | Clord | aah so many possibilities! |
| 11:08.56 | Rodrigo | We need Battle.net 2.1 |
| 11:09.08 | Rodrigo | when they will release the Battle.net 2.1 patch? |
| 11:09.38 | progammer | after the end of the world |
| 11:09.42 | progammer | which is about 2013 |
| 11:09.47 | Bibendus | fu |
| 11:09.49 | Bibendus | i cant find the kid |
| 11:10.00 | Bibendus | rodrigo |
| 11:10.01 | Bibendus | do u remember |
| 11:10.03 | Bibendus | where it was? |
| 11:10.08 | Rodrigo | with insight statistics of each map like on youtube where you can see even which state the guy played your map, and how frequent, number of unique users, graphs, comments, ratings.... |
| 11:10.09 | Bibendus | 3rd or 4th part |
| 11:10.19 | Rodrigo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdG9jQlQQvw&feature=player_embedded [10:40] |
| 11:10.46 | Rodrigo | no [12:10] |
| 11:10.58 | Rodrigo | sixen at 12:10 |
| 11:11.03 | Bibendus | not the granpa |
| 11:11.03 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:11.13 | Bibendus | the little kid |
| 11:11.25 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 11:11.34 | Rodrigo | everytime I see this granpa and imagine this is sixen |
| 11:11.41 | Rodrigo | I can't stop laughing |
| 11:11.52 | Bibendus | rofl |
| 11:12.02 | Bibendus | lets make a fake post |
| 11:12.04 | Rodrigo | rofl at the fat guy mentioning Debates |
| 11:12.04 | Bibendus | saying he is sixen |
| 11:12.04 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:12.10 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:12.11 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 11:12.17 | Demonette | it's not working -.- |
| 11:12.18 | progammer | sixen launch detected |
| 11:12.20 | Bibendus | that probably 99,999% of guys |
| 11:12.23 | Bibendus | didnt know what it was |
| 11:12.43 | Bibendus | and my english suckz |
| 11:12.47 | Rodrigo | lol |
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| 11:13.02 | thenk | lol Rodrigo |
| 11:13.07 | thenk | i see ur message on the stream |
| 11:13.18 | Rodrigo | lol thenk |
| 11:13.27 | Rodrigo | blizzard dodges debates more than they dodge the popularity system |
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| 11:13.57 | Rodrigo | on debates, you debate about the popularity sytem |
| 11:14.02 | Bibendus | here |
| 11:14.04 | Bibendus | iv seen it |
| 11:14.07 | Bibendus | ! |
| 11:14.31 | Rodrigo | did u find the little kid? |
| 11:14.46 | Rodrigo | where am I on the video? |
| 11:15.00 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdG9jQlQQvw 10:25 |
| 11:15.13 | Bibendus | WATCH IT rrowland |
| 11:15.35 | Rodrigo | I CANT believe no one asked something so direct and simple such as "WOULD YOU FIX THE POPULARITY SYSTEM?" |
| 11:15.50 | Bibendus | tell me if u want to punch him in the face or not |
| 11:15.56 | Bibendus | rodrigo |
| 11:15.58 | progammer | i crashed my sc2 like 100 times today |
| 11:15.58 | Bibendus | they asked |
| 11:16.05 | Bibendus | but they jsut DODGED |
| 11:16.14 | Bibendus | 2 times |
| 11:16.21 | progammer | like bush dodge the shoe |
| 11:16.29 | Rodrigo | but they WERE ABLE TO DODGE because the questions WERE COMPLEX |
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| 11:16.50 | Rodrigo | a simple and direct question they wouldnt be able to dodge |
| 11:16.52 | thenk | a question lke 'whata re you doing to improve the popularity system' would work right |
| 11:17.07 | thenk | (probably not) |
| 11:17.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer_ (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 11:17.36 | Bibendus | These were level desiners and not the guys to answer questions like the ones I asked about when the marketplace would be coming out or if the 10MB map size limit would ever be increased or removed. Dustin Browder is going to be on a SC2 Multiplayer panel in about 30-40 min and I'm going to try and ask my SC2 mapping questions to him in that panel even though it's not for StarCraft - wish me luck. =D |
| 11:17.41 | Bibendus | here is the guy |
| 11:17.41 | Rodrigo | like "WHEN POPULARITY SYSTEM WILL BE FIXED?" 6 words only! people spent like 100 words to say that, that's why they were able to dodge and pretend that they didn't understand |
| 11:17.45 | Bibendus | that asked to dustin |
| 11:17.47 | Bibendus | at sc2 multiplayer |
| 11:17.48 | Bibendus | ahaha |
| 11:18.07 | progammer_ | Bibendus: yeah he made that hotkey trainer map |
| 11:18.09 | progammer_ | on mapster |
| 11:18.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster Araxnid (bestirc@home-pool-169-227.com2com.ru) |
| 11:18.25 | Araxnid | hello everyone |
| 11:18.29 | Bibendus | rodrigo |
| 11:18.31 | Araxnid | could someone make a model? |
| 11:18.32 | Bibendus | dustin |
| 11:18.35 | Bibendus | was at the multiplayer panel |
| 11:18.38 | Bibendus | they were fucking noobs |
| 11:18.40 | Rodrigo | hey, this kid has an accent and is skinny like me. I can see people will keep saying he is me |
| 11:18.42 | Bibendus | knowing nothing |
| 11:19.15 | progammer_ | no one find me on those video :P |
| 11:19.41 | Bibendus | rodrigo |
| 11:19.43 | Bibendus | just admit it |
| 11:19.45 | Rodrigo | yes |
| 11:19.47 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:19.50 | Bibendus | u were him |
| 11:19.53 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 11:19.56 | rrowland | fuck that kid |
| 11:20.01 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:20.02 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:20.11 | Bibendus | i was like him a tonz of years ago |
| 11:20.14 | Rodrigo | I have a little more diplomacy than this boy has. I wouldn't ask that stupid question |
| 11:20.15 | rrowland | like 14 year old kid |
| 11:20.27 | Bibendus | he could have asked it |
| 11:20.33 | Bibendus | in a different way |
| 11:20.37 | Rodrigo | exactly |
| 11:20.38 | Bibendus | like |
| 11:20.47 | Rodrigo | and that is a question you dont need to ask THERE |
| 11:20.48 | Bibendus | could plz tell us how many custom map entries |
| 11:20.52 | Rodrigo | you can just call someone on the corner and ask |
| 11:20.55 | Bibendus | and when the fuck are u going to show them to the public? |
| 11:20.56 | Rodrigo | everyone knows the answer |
| 11:21.11 | Bibendus | the answer should have been NEVER |
| 11:21.11 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:21.17 | Bibendus | cuz they didnt show them to the public |
| 11:21.20 | Bibendus | just on computersz |
| 11:21.29 | Bibendus | somewhere in a hidden corner of blizzcon |
| 11:21.44 | rrowland | Anyway |
| 11:21.47 | progammer_ | Bibendus: in which ppl will play dota instead of them |
| 11:21.49 | Rodrigo | well, now I know why the guy was holding the mic |
| 11:22.01 | rrowland | Despite not being perfect |
| 11:22.09 | Bibendus | ye |
| 11:22.09 | rrowland | 10x betterthan the nexus wars trash that won |
| 11:22.10 | Bibendus | exactly |
| 11:22.11 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:22.19 | Rodrigo | His job: HOLD THE MIC. If someone asks a direct question about popularity system, you TAKE THE MIC OFF! |
| 11:22.20 | Bibendus | fuck they still got 5k |
| 11:22.21 | Bibendus | $ |
| 11:22.30 | Bibendus | how could this kid win 5k |
| 11:22.31 | Bibendus | ... |
| 11:22.36 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:22.40 | Bibendus | rodrigo |
| 11:22.41 | rrowland | his map sucked |
| 11:22.44 | rrowland | they all sucked |
| 11:22.47 | Bibendus | that was the superior order from dustin |
| 11:22.47 | Bibendus | :D |
| 11:22.51 | Bibendus | ROD didnt suck |
| 11:22.52 | Bibendus | cmon |
| 11:22.54 | Rodrigo | he will spend his 5k on yu-gi-oh decks |
| 11:22.58 | Bibendus | ROFL |
| 11:23.12 | Bibendus | as you are doing rodrigo? |
| 11:23.13 | Bibendus | :D |
| 11:23.16 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 11:23.17 | rrowland | RAD was ineligible |
| 11:23.30 | rrowland | Blizzard fails at every contest ever |
| 11:23.36 | Rodrigo | which map this kid made? |
| 11:23.42 | Rodrigo | the one you move the mouse and the cannon fires? |
| 11:23.49 | rrowland | I don't know, probably |
| 11:23.52 | rrowland | That map was horrible |
| 11:24.20 | Rodrigo | well, just by looking which maps Blizzard features, I was expecting that for this contest..... |
| 11:24.41 | thenk | those features maps are horrible |
| 11:24.49 | thenk | how did they get featured? |
| 11:24.55 | Rodrigo | blizzard never featured a decent map |
| 11:25.01 | Rodrigo | and there's tons of it on the bottom of the list |
| 11:25.03 | Araxnid | its users |
| 11:25.12 | thenk | i want to get my enfo team survival clone some exposure but noo popularity system sux |
| 11:25.18 | rrowland | well |
| 11:25.37 | rrowland | I am building a team for a new project that I expect to dominate some area of BNet |
| 11:25.47 | thenk | I need a terrainer =/ |
| 11:25.50 | rrowland | So keep your ears open because I'll post something soon |
| 11:25.51 | Rodrigo | where is this kid's accent from? |
| 11:25.58 | rrowland | For people |
| 11:26.12 | Araxnid | so, any modelers here? |
| 11:26.40 | Rodrigo | that buy is hilarious |
| 11:26.41 | Clord | unfortunately about 99% percent of popular maps players does not go and read abour your project :/ |
| 11:26.43 | Araxnid | i need just copy paste one model to another and rotate him %) |
| 11:26.49 | Rodrigo | Blizzard lost the opportunity to make a perfect joke |
| 11:26.50 | Clord | that is why even I can't get more than one map popular |
| 11:26.51 | Clord | XD |
| 11:26.52 | Bibendus | rrow actually |
| 11:26.53 | Bibendus | didnt fail |
| 11:27.01 | Bibendus | on wc3 sportsmap contest |
| 11:27.02 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:27.09 | Bibendus | not always |
| 11:27.10 | Rodrigo | "I WON THE MAP CONTEST!!! How many people participated on the contest?" "Just you" |
| 11:27.15 | Araxnid | dont care about popularity, just create fun and intersting maps, post in on forums and here we go |
| 11:27.15 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:27.27 | Bibendus | hey guys i won the contest |
| 11:27.30 | Rodrigo | If I were blizzard, you can bet I would have said that |
| 11:27.31 | Bibendus | how much do u all suckz? |
| 11:27.40 | Rodrigo | just to make him less proud |
| 11:27.41 | Bibendus | (translation) |
| 11:27.41 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:27.44 | Rodrigo | "just you" |
| 11:27.48 | Bibendus | loool |
| 11:27.55 | Bibendus | or just added |
| 11:27.59 | Bibendus | actually the maps were soo bad |
| 11:28.05 | Rodrigo | LMAO! |
| 11:28.06 | Bibendus | that we decided to not show them on public |
| 11:28.08 | Bibendus | :D |
| 11:28.14 | Rodrigo | hahaha |
| 11:28.14 | Bibendus | and that's what they did lol |
| 11:28.30 | Rodrigo | they should |
| 11:28.39 | Rodrigo | they should have given honorable mention |
| 11:28.50 | Rodrigo | for some people who spent the whole month doing it |
| 11:29.02 | Rodrigo | where was the honorable mentions? |
| 11:29.18 | Rodrigo | at least a 1 minute video showing them playing most of the good maps submitted |
| 11:29.20 | Bibendus | i think |
| 11:29.24 | Bibendus | they will release online |
| 11:29.25 | Bibendus | the winners |
| 11:29.28 | Bibendus | after blizzcon |
| 11:29.41 | Bibendus | they did it in the past |
| 11:29.43 | Bibendus | out of blizzcon |
| 11:29.52 | Clord | so what map actually won? |
| 11:29.56 | Rodrigo | I dont want the winners. I want to see the honorable mentions |
| 11:30.04 | Rodrigo | I want to see them playing rrowland's map |
| 11:30.08 | Rodrigo | just for 5-6 seconds |
| 11:30.20 | Rodrigo | showing that they actually played! |
| 11:30.55 | Clord | so some map what nobody remembers won? |
| 11:30.56 | Clord | XD |
| 11:31.06 | progammer_ | Bibendus: go to blizzcon site, every contest winner is there |
| 11:31.11 | progammer_ | execpt custom map |
| 11:31.56 | Bibendus | ye |
| 11:31.57 | Bibendus | i know :D |
| 11:32.00 | Bibendus | no wait |
| 11:32.01 | Bibendus | i think |
| 11:32.06 | progammer_ | http://us.blizzard.com/blizzcon/ |
| 11:32.07 | Bibendus | that movie contest winners are missing too |
| 11:32.10 | progammer_ | scroll that down |
| 11:32.14 | progammer_ | every winner |
| 11:32.16 | Bibendus | i already seen it |
| 11:32.24 | Bibendus | movie contest missing too! |
| 11:32.27 | progammer_ | fan art |
| 11:32.27 | Bibendus | but at least |
| 11:32.28 | progammer_ | movie |
| 11:32.29 | Bibendus | they shown |
| 11:32.30 | Bibendus | oh |
| 11:32.32 | progammer_ | song |
| 11:32.38 | Bibendus | nice message to the map making community |
| 11:32.38 | Bibendus | lol |
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| 11:33.25 | Clord | it looks like it is useless to ask so let's see if I find it :) |
| 11:36.27 | Bibendus | clord |
| 11:36.30 | Bibendus | noone knows |
| 11:36.30 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:36.31 | Bibendus | oh yes |
| 11:36.33 | Bibendus | rrow knows |
| 11:36.37 | Bibendus | rocket arena deluxe |
| 11:36.41 | Bibendus | photon cannon shitz |
| 11:36.50 | Bibendus | and a zergling map he didn't remind |
| 11:37.25 | Rodrigo | where is the writing contest winner?!?!?! |
| 11:37.33 | Rodrigo | I almost cry reading my story |
| 11:37.41 | Rodrigo | who won the writing contest? |
| 11:38.08 | Bibendus | dunno |
| 11:38.15 | Bibendus | did they talk about the poor map maker |
| 11:38.19 | Bibendus | that got banned multiple times? |
| 11:38.27 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:38.28 | Rodrigo | who? |
| 11:38.36 | Bibendus | u |
| 11:38.36 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:38.43 | Rodrigo | multiple? |
| 11:38.47 | Bibendus | oh just 1? |
| 11:38.49 | Bibendus | i m sry :D |
| 11:38.56 | Rodrigo | just one NWW ban |
| 11:39.08 | Rodrigo | no one mentioned the bans |
| 11:39.22 | Rodrigo | no one asked a question about blizzard banning maps |
| 11:39.24 | Bibendus | cuz u where the only one banned |
| 11:39.24 | Bibendus | :D |
| 11:39.41 | Rodrigo | but it's currently the most popular topic on the blizz forums |
| 11:40.26 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:40.27 | Rodrigo | blizzard said that to make a map popular, you just have to post in the forum and if it goes viral, your map becomes popular |
| 11:40.43 | Rodrigo | there's only 2 maps that went viral on the forums |
| 11:40.55 | Rodrigo | NWW and Tank Defense |
| 11:41.01 | Rodrigo | both because they were banned |
| 11:41.30 | Rodrigo | so I guess blizzard banned my map to make it popular |
| 11:41.45 | Rodrigo | "How, that map looks good! lets ban it to make it popular" |
| 11:42.07 | Rodrigo | if you see Nexus Word Wars youtube video graph |
| 11:42.23 | Rodrigo | there's like a jump in increase of views the day the map got banned |
| 11:43.02 | Rodrigo | the video got 300 views just from a korean website |
| 11:43.31 | Rodrigo | it was like "blablablablabla Nexus Word Wars blablablabla Blizzard blablablabl ban blablabla" |
| 11:43.53 | Rodrigo | "blablablabl 32000 blablabla" |
| 11:44.07 | progammer_ | Rodrigo: lol i got 50k views from korea for my map alone |
| 11:44.16 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 11:44.28 | Rodrigo | korea is the starcraft market |
| 11:44.48 | Rodrigo | I have to post my games on battle.net korea. it will go viral |
| 11:44.57 | progammer_ | no you need to learn korean |
| 11:45.19 | Rodrigo | they are playing on battle.net LA. The map is on the first page with 7 games played |
| 11:45.46 | Rodrigo | first page with 7 games played |
| 11:46.00 | Rodrigo | I would make crappy maps and boost all of them |
| 11:46.07 | Rodrigo | it will fill all the first page |
| 11:46.11 | Rodrigo | it would* |
| 11:47.32 | Araxnid | what thing i need to change in the lighting, to set shadows from top point |
| 11:47.44 | Araxnid | =\ |
| 11:49.06 | Rodrigo | I'm looking at Husky's profile. He played Nexus Word Wars. :P |
| 11:49.35 | Bibendus | lol |
| 11:49.52 | Bibendus | where |
| 11:49.53 | Bibendus | do u see it |
| 11:49.55 | Rodrigo | 3 weeks ago |
| 11:50.04 | Rodrigo | i'm seeing it on battle.net |
| 11:50.06 | Bibendus | how did i miss it |
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| 11:50.13 | Bibendus | did he cast it? |
| 11:50.22 | Rodrigo | no |
| 11:50.28 | Bibendus | how now i got how i missed it |
| 11:50.29 | Bibendus | :D |
| 11:50.32 | Rodrigo | he played once 3 weeks ago. I guess he didnt like it |
| 11:50.42 | Rodrigo | but he played Nexus Wars like 200 times |
| 11:50.53 | Rodrigo | I cant believe he likes Nexus Wars |
| 11:51.49 | Araxnid | when there is no other maps |
| 11:51.50 | Araxnid | xD |
| 11:51.56 | Araxnid | to play with somebody.. |
| 11:52.07 | Araxnid | what is SSAO? |
| 11:52.08 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 11:52.49 | Rodrigo | nexus wars, marine arena, and battlecraft is everything he ever played |
| 11:55.03 | Rodrigo | I hope no one opens my profile |
| 11:55.09 | Rodrigo | melee games played: 0 |
| 11:55.16 | Rodrigo | custom maps played: 4500 |
| 11:55.36 | Araxnid | it look like my in wc3 |
| 11:55.44 | Araxnid | but i played 10 melee games |
| 11:55.45 | Araxnid | xD |
| 11:55.54 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 11:57.25 | Rodrigo | I didn't tell anyone that Nexus Word Wars was published, and the game already got 326 games |
| 11:58.01 | Rodrigo | 5 am |
| 11:58.07 | Rodrigo | time to sleep |
| 11:58.09 | Rodrigo | see ya |
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| 12:09.04 | Araxnid | somewhere i was see a nice lighting tut.. |
| 12:10.17 | ProzaicMuze | gosh |
| 12:10.25 | ProzaicMuze | I'm watching the UMS Q&A again |
| 12:10.32 | ProzaicMuze | That data editor specialist is so dumb |
| 12:11.02 | ProzaicMuze | some guy essentially asked if they're ever going to make it so that triggers can access the field values of abilities. Essentially leading towards variable values in the DE. |
| 12:11.11 | ProzaicMuze | The guy says "you can already do that with blah" which is false. |
| 12:11.16 | ProzaicMuze | It makes me want to punch babies! |
| 12:13.55 | progammer_ | ProzaicMuze: |
| 12:14.05 | ProzaicMuze | wah? |
| 12:14.06 | progammer_ | how can i make any unit rotate indefinitely |
| 12:14.13 | ProzaicMuze | As in spin? |
| 12:14.14 | progammer_ | by site ops |
| 12:14.29 | progammer_ | yeah like pylon |
| 12:14.34 | progammer_ | but its like using turret |
| 12:14.42 | progammer_ | but mine does not have turret |
| 12:14.47 | ProzaicMuze | The pylon spins via animation |
| 12:14.48 | ProzaicMuze | But |
| 12:14.49 | ProzaicMuze | you can cheat |
| 12:14.50 | progammer_ | i want the whole actor to spin |
| 12:15.01 | ProzaicMuze | Take a turret model with TurretZ |
| 12:15.07 | ProzaicMuze | make it really really tiny |
| 12:15.17 | ProzaicMuze | Then attach the unit you want to spit to it |
| 12:15.29 | ProzaicMuze | then enable a turret for the actor using the tiny turret model |
| 12:15.44 | ProzaicMuze | Now the unit that normally can't spin will rotate arouny the tiny turret's TurretZ bone |
| 12:15.55 | ProzaicMuze | Make sense? |
| 12:16.03 | progammer_ | so i attach the unit actor to the model or attach the actor with the turret |
| 12:16.06 | progammer_ | kind of make sense |
| 12:16.28 | ProzaicMuze | Essentially treat your model exactly like a turret |
| 12:16.29 | ProzaicMuze | BUT |
| 12:16.31 | progammer_ | for example i want my marine to spin |
| 12:16.32 | progammer_ | (stand still, no thing required) |
| 12:16.49 | ProzaicMuze | instead of being the turret, create an invisibile tiny turret for it that does the spinning. Becaise ot |
| 12:16.52 | progammer_ | i have no idea about those turret |
| 12:16.58 | ProzaicMuze | Because it's attached to the turret it will spin too. |
| 12:17.06 | ProzaicMuze | Look at my turret tutorial then |
| 12:17.18 | progammer_ | normally turret are attached to unit |
| 12:17.21 | progammer_ | is that the way it go |
| 12:17.25 | ProzaicMuze | Eh |
| 12:17.28 | progammer_ | or you;re saying attach unit to turret ? |
| 12:17.38 | ProzaicMuze | Normally a turret is attached to a turret or is an actual building |
| 12:17.41 | SycoPrime | You'd have a base unit, with a turret. |
| 12:17.52 | SycoPrime | And then your spinnin marine actor would be attached to that turret. |
| 12:17.52 | ProzaicMuze | turret to a moving unit* |
| 12:18.47 | progammer_ | i hate this stuff, i tried to attach the pylon turret but it does nothing |
| 12:18.56 | ProzaicMuze | The pylon isn't a turret |
| 12:19.00 | ProzaicMuze | It's not actually spinning |
| 12:19.03 | ProzaicMuze | that's the model animation |
| 12:19.03 | SycoPrime | Hm...that makes me think, it'd probably be pretty easy to make a sweet helicopter.... |
| 12:19.28 | ProzaicMuze | @Syco - this method is how I suggested people make dynamic orbits instead of REALLY complex mover systems. |
| 12:19.39 | ProzaicMuze | For like orbs that float around a unit's head |
| 12:20.07 | progammer_ | what kind of turret should i try ? planetary fortress ? |
| 12:20.13 | ProzaicMuze | Auto Turret |
| 12:20.28 | ProzaicMuze | And all you need is the model |
| 12:20.30 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 12:21.12 | progammer_ | still dont get it |
| 12:21.48 | progammer_ | lemme play around a little bit |
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| 12:22.44 | SycoPrime | PM: I was going to say that about the pylon, but I wasn't 100% sure. |
| 12:22.57 | ProzaicMuze | lol np progammer |
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| 12:23.06 | progammer_ | what is the model ? |
| 12:23.06 | progammer_ | the turret has nothing related to the model |
| 12:23.06 | progammer_ | just rotation and what not |
| 12:23.09 | SycoPrime | Also, about the orbs and movers, I actually have something that needed that...I think I wound up doing it with triggers....but you say just use a turret? |
| 12:23.27 | SycoPrime | You can pick any model and put a "turret" on it. |
| 12:24.18 | ProzaicMuze | @progammer - you are essentially making a weapon for the unit, hiding it, making it useless and then taking the turret you'd assign it to rotate your unit. |
| 12:24.39 | SycoPrime | Also, PM, I don't think I showed this to anyone, and it took me three days :P But I made a ridable ultralisk from your uberlisk tutorial, and the one with the nexus and the lots of photon cannons, though I can't remember why I needed the latter. |
| 12:25.27 | ProzaicMuze | @Syco - Yes, you can slap a turret on anything to allow various rotations and orbits with careful planning. |
| 12:25.55 | ProzaicMuze | I'm sure there is s'posed to be an easier way to do this, but Blizzard hasn't revealed it and NOTHING I've looked at has suggested otherwise outside of an invisible turret. |
| 12:26.10 | ProzaicMuze | And ridable ultralisk sounds fun lol |
| 12:26.21 | progammer_ | i'm lost |
| 12:26.26 | SycoPrime | That makes sense, but for my purposes, I wanted a unit with...probably too much rotation. I wanted potentially dozens of orbs spinning around it. |
| 12:26.32 | SycoPrime | It was kinda fun, but it was a huge pain in the ass to make :( |
| 12:26.35 | grim001 | muze do you have some contact with blizzard? |
| 12:26.50 | progammer_ | so i have marauder stripped of weapon |
| 12:27.03 | progammer_ | given the combat turret and auto turret weapon |
| 12:27.03 | progammer_ | what next ? |
| 12:27.06 | SycoPrime | progammer: It took me about three read-throughs to understand his turret tutorial :/ |
| 12:27.29 | progammer_ | i think i will read it now |
| 12:27.32 | SycoPrime | Not that there's anything wrong with it, just that I wasn't drunk enough to understand Blizzard's train of thought. |
| 12:28.28 | SycoPrime | Okay, you're going to need (I think) three things. |
| 12:28.29 | ProzaicMuze | @progammer - gimme a lil' bit and I'll make an example for you to look at. It'll make explaining this much easier :D |
| 12:28.30 | progammer_ | is that smt in the model actor ? |
| 12:28.47 | SycoPrime | A "base", immagine this like a...wheel that something stands on. |
| 12:28.49 | SycoPrime | The "unit" that is going to be spinning. |
| 12:28.52 | ProzaicMuze | Also, I'll be updating many of my turrets to include a VERY basic video tutorial walkthrough |
| 12:29.00 | ProzaicMuze | Where you make a simple turret or a simple this or simple that |
| 12:29.04 | ProzaicMuze | as a lead-in |
| 12:29.05 | SycoPrime | And the "turret", which essentially acts as the pin that turns this imaginary "wheel". |
| 12:29.13 | ProzaicMuze | hopefully that'll help with the complexities of my tutorials |
| 12:29.21 | progammer_ | i understand turret as additionaly objects |
| 12:29.35 | progammer_ | what i want to understand is how the turret know to lift the whole model |
| 12:29.41 | ProzaicMuze | @grim - No, I don't have any contact with Blizzard. They also seem to avoid my questions and topics on their forums, so even if I tried I have a feeling they'd shun me. |
| 12:29.45 | ProzaicMuze | I guess I'm scary Xp |
| 12:29.46 | SycoPrime | You'll need a total of one Unit type object in the data editor, and... |
| 12:29.46 | SycoPrime | I think three actors, because I think the turret needs an actor of its own. |
| 12:30.00 | SycoPrime | And then you need one turret type object in the data editor, which will determine the frequency of your spinnin'. |
| 12:30.31 | progammer_ | i just want to strap the auto turret on marrauder |
| 12:30.34 | progammer_ | it have the turret, the turret actor |
| 12:30.36 | progammer_ | what else ? |
| 12:30.48 | SycoPrime | PM: Your tutorials aren't necessarily complex, it's the topic material that is :/ |
| 12:31.06 | ProzaicMuze | Because I don't always start at the basics with them even though it's a beginner tutorial lol |
| 12:31.21 | ProzaicMuze | My beginner tutorial for turrets has you making 4 turrets as attachments to a building |
| 12:31.34 | ProzaicMuze | Anyone else who makes a beginner tutorial would probably make a single turret that IS the building |
| 12:31.52 | SycoPrime | Actually that one was pretty easy, if I remember correctly. |
| 12:31.53 | ProzaicMuze | But because that's so short I go further, but will probably include the later as a video tutorial. |
| 12:32.08 | ProzaicMuze | Well most of my tutorials are very easy to do |
| 12:32.14 | ProzaicMuze | I'm very specific in what you do. |
| 12:32.21 | progammer_ | in the tuts you make all from scratch |
| 12:32.30 | ProzaicMuze | But the understanding part I get a lot of complaints about "why did I do this?" |
| 12:32.40 | ProzaicMuze | Which is want I to address with the video intro |
| 12:32.40 | progammer_ | now that i have all of these in the autor turret , i think i miss something |
| 12:33.34 | progammer_ | cant understand what determine the whole model spinning |
| 12:33.46 | progammer_ | i remove the turret on auto and it stop spinning |
| 12:34.00 | progammer_ | add it to marauder nothing happen |
| 12:37.23 | progammer_ | wait so i need a turret actor or a model actor ? |
| 12:38.03 | ProzaicMuze | both |
| 12:38.40 | SycoPrime | Well, you could also just put up a FAQ >_> |
| 12:39.09 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 12:39.11 | progammer_ | what field in the model actor determine that all of it will be on the turret ? |
| 12:39.20 | ProzaicMuze | I'd rather make a video that acts as a stepping stone |
| 12:39.25 | ProzaicMuze | and answer questions as the come in the thread lol |
| 12:39.27 | progammer_ | as i have to edit the marauder model actor correct ? |
| 12:39.35 | ProzaicMuze | another FAQ would get tedious since I'd need it for every thread |
| 12:39.38 | ProzaicMuze | I'd shoot myself |
| 12:40.38 | ProzaicMuze | gimme a min progammer |
| 12:40.45 | ProzaicMuze | I'm almost done making an example for you to refernce. |
| 12:41.17 | progammer_ | thanks |
| 12:41.17 | progammer_ | i have to wait then |
| 12:42.17 | Demonette | How can GetAlliance between two players fail? |
| 12:48.08 | Demonette | PlayerGetAlliance Out of borders oO |
| 12:48.54 | progammer_ | what did you get ? |
| 12:49.03 | progammer_ | out of border mean you get player 16 or smt |
| 12:49.14 | progammer_ | ProzaicMuze: i did it |
| 12:49.24 | ProzaicMuze | lol, figured out before I finished? |
| 12:49.32 | progammer_ | not exactly the way you did |
| 12:49.44 | progammer_ | i just simply attach the actor on the already spinning turret |
| 12:49.44 | ProzaicMuze | Hey, whatever works :) |
| 12:49.47 | progammer_ | turret Z |
| 12:49.59 | progammer_ | i think that would be better |
| 12:50.04 | progammer_ | cause i will use trigger |
| 12:50.08 | progammer_ | not bulk data editing |
| 12:51.13 | SycoPrime | ~seen Iskatumesk |
| 12:51.18 | purl | iskatumesk <ae015692@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.1.86.146> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 13d 16h 52m 24s ago, saying: 'bye bye sc2'. |
| 12:51.22 | ZarafFaraz | lol |
| 12:51.28 | ProzaicMuze | Whatever works for you progammer, just glad I could help :) |
| 12:51.29 | ZarafFaraz | he's gone |
| 12:51.30 | progammer_ | lol bye bye |
| 12:51.38 | Araxnid | sad |
| 12:53.05 | Araxnid | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/12834-terrain-trix-3-lighting-guide/#p7 is pictures loading nice? |
| 12:56.14 | progammer_ | now i have a new problem, whatever scale the original actor was the attached actor get changed too |
| 12:56.56 | Araxnid | work with the model scale |
| 12:57.31 | progammer_ | yeah model scale works |
| 12:59.14 | Clord | game variables are lovely... turned that 30 seconds countdown crap to 5 seconds |
| 12:59.17 | progammer_ | but any changes like actor message for the unit, the attached get turned too |
| 12:59.31 | Clord | game variants |
| 12:59.32 | Clord | XD |
| 13:22.24 | ProzaicMuze | So has anyone else noticed how big spiders are getting lately? (US related, dunno abotu rest of the world) |
| 13:23.20 | Araxnid | hahaha |
| 13:23.24 | Araxnid | YOU ALL BE DOOMED! |
| 13:26.04 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 13:26.18 | ProzaicMuze | I've just been having a lot of rather large spiders begin to show up |
| 13:26.29 | ProzaicMuze | and since it's winter, the spiders are s'posed to go away and die |
| 13:26.33 | ProzaicMuze | not infest everywhere |
| 13:28.47 | Araxnid | no |
| 13:28.57 | Araxnid | they will go in nice sweet placec |
| 13:29.01 | ProzaicMuze | Lies |
| 13:29.02 | Araxnid | where hot |
| 13:29.07 | ProzaicMuze | winter means the death of all insects |
| 13:29.13 | ProzaicMuze | they aren't allowed to come into my house |
| 13:29.15 | ProzaicMuze | because I'll kill them |
| 13:29.23 | Araxnid | when nights falls |
| 13:29.27 | Araxnid | they came out |
| 13:29.30 | Araxnid | and go in you mouth |
| 13:29.31 | Araxnid | hahaha |
| 13:29.32 | Araxnid | !\ |
| 13:30.10 | ProzaicMuze | No, they bite my legs |
| 13:30.13 | ProzaicMuze | Dirty jewspiders |
| 13:30.33 | ProzaicMuze | I just need get one of them frequency things that drive spiders away |
| 13:30.43 | ProzaicMuze | That way they nevah evah come into my house! |
| 13:30.46 | ProzaicMuze | CUZ ISH MAH HOUSE! |
| 13:30.59 | ProzaicMuze | Especially those quarter-sized ones |
| 13:31.13 | ProzaicMuze | Killing them is a chore! You have to pop them instead of squish them |
| 13:31.55 | Araxnid | buy a special anti spider gas |
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| 13:32.14 | Miccrackens | Hello my good people |
| 13:32.21 | Araxnid | hi |
| 13:32.32 | Miccrackens | Who is all in this chat? |
| 13:32.40 | Miccrackens | I need to know who is here |
| 13:32.43 | Miccrackens | Sound off |
| 13:32.47 | Miccrackens | ROAR |
| 13:32.57 | Araxnid | how to setup light only from dodads? |
| 13:33.04 | Araxnid | and very little from "earth" |
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| 13:33.10 | Icebane | Yo! |
| 13:33.19 | Miccrackens | WAZZZZUUUUUPPPP |
| 13:33.31 | Icebane | I'M UP! |
| 13:33.37 | Miccrackens | goody |
| 13:33.48 | Icebane | Did anyone else but me get very dissapointed about the BlizzCon mapping panel? |
| 13:33.50 | Miccrackens | ima go attempt to get good at scw |
| 13:33.54 | Miccrackens | sc2 |
| 13:34.00 | Icebane | Do it! |
| 13:34.30 | Clord | jewspiders? |
| 13:34.32 | Clord | XD |
| 13:35.55 | Icebane | jewspiders? o.o |
| 13:44.10 | Araxnid | =\\\ |
| 13:44.18 | Araxnid | how to create nice dark light? |
| 13:44.21 | Araxnid | i mean, for all map |
| 13:44.28 | Araxnid | where only dodads will give lgiht |
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| 14:04.14 | HeyRevolver | omg I am so addicted to fallout new vegas |
| 14:04.18 | HeyRevolver | wtf is starcraft 2? |
| 14:04.30 | HeyRevolver | oh yeah its that game with the insanely amazing map editor |
| 14:09.14 | ProzaicMuze | but the insanely stupid developing company |
| 14:09.28 | HeyRevolver | hehe har |
| 14:09.35 | ProzaicMuze | I'm beginning to wish I had gone to Blizzcon JUST so I could stand in the Q&A for UMS stuff |
| 14:09.41 | HeyRevolver | dude |
| 14:09.44 | ProzaicMuze | They had a point where nobody was asking questions |
| 14:09.49 | ProzaicMuze | I would have RAPED that panel with questions |
| 14:09.50 | HeyRevolver | omfg I wanted to go so bad just to throw stuff at Bobby Kotick |
| 14:09.51 | HeyRevolver | seriously |
| 14:09.52 | SycoPrime | Haha |
| 14:09.56 | HeyRevolver | i know i would get ejected but itd be so worth it |
| 14:10.02 | SycoPrime | PM, they would have escorted you from the building :/ |
| 14:10.03 | HeyRevolver | to say "I threw my shoes at Bobby Kotick" |
| 14:10.12 | ProzaicMuze | lol no kiddin' |
| 14:10.21 | SycoPrime | HR: You should make that a bumper sticker. Also, who is Bobby Kotick? :/ |
| 14:10.27 | HeyRevolver | omg |
| 14:10.29 | HeyRevolver | google him |
| 14:10.32 | ProzaicMuze | "Hi, I'm ProzaicM. . . . *gets shot from 5 angles and quickly removed from the building*" |
| 14:10.39 | HeyRevolver | its just another name for lucifer, the devil, satan |
| 14:10.42 | HeyRevolver | bobby kotick |
| 14:10.43 | HeyRevolver | all the same |
| 14:11.11 | HeyRevolver | lol prozaicmuze the spies in the channel are well aware of your tomfoolery |
| 14:11.16 | HeyRevolver | the blizzard spies* |
| 14:11.57 | ProzaicMuze | Indeed |
| 14:12.03 | SycoPrime | googles. |
| 14:12.10 | ProzaicMuze | Someone who ISN'T me should have been: |
| 14:12.22 | ProzaicMuze | "So I've been reading about this guy named ProzaicMuze. . . what do you guys think about him?" |
| 14:12.37 | ProzaicMuze | *camera pans to the stage where the panel has disappeared from sight* |
| 14:12.38 | SycoPrime | The sc2mapster representatives should have been in there, and we should have been able to tweet / IM questions to them.... |
| 14:12.47 | ProzaicMuze | Well |
| 14:12.50 | ProzaicMuze | I didn't see Sixen at all |
| 14:12.59 | ProzaicMuze | and I would have had rrowland ask questions for me |
| 14:13.05 | ProzaicMuze | but he just asked the one question |
| 14:13.07 | ProzaicMuze | and I didn't have his numbah |
| 14:13.09 | SycoPrime | Actually, they wouldn't disappear, probably respond with "We think he's a commie. And he's working for the enemy. Designing games for Electronic Arts Kim Jong Il Virgin Electronic." |
| 14:13.14 | ProzaicMuze | I'd SO have used him to rape the panel |
| 14:13.23 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 14:13.29 | ProzaicMuze | So true Syco. . . so true. . . |
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| 14:15.58 | Araxnid | heeey |
| 14:16.00 | Araxnid | guyyss |
| 14:16.04 | Araxnid | help me with lighting |
| 14:16.06 | nolliepoper | hi friend |
| 14:16.40 | nolliepoper | ok lightning. your gonna need a kite and a key |
| 14:16.53 | Araxnid | key? |
| 14:16.58 | Araxnid | hm |
| 14:17.04 | Sevenix | funny nolliepoper |
| 14:17.10 | Sevenix | I actually got that joke |
| 14:17.18 | Araxnid | what i need to change to create light only from dodads? |
| 14:18.07 | ProzaicMuze | mmk |
| 14:18.09 | ProzaicMuze | here's the deal |
| 14:18.19 | ProzaicMuze | everyone in here MUST go here and leave a comment about the popularity system |
| 14:18.20 | ProzaicMuze | otherwise |
| 14:18.25 | nolliepoper | Just tie to key to the top of string area towward the kite |
| 14:18.27 | ProzaicMuze | I'll do something evil to you |
| 14:18.30 | ProzaicMuze | and I'm the king of eilv |
| 14:18.32 | ProzaicMuze | evil* |
| 14:18.37 | ProzaicMuze | so you better be afraid and do what I say |
| 14:18.39 | ProzaicMuze | ok? |
| 14:18.39 | ProzaicMuze | ok |
| 14:18.42 | Araxnid | prozaic are kind of elfs? |
| 14:18.43 | Araxnid | xD |
| 14:18.45 | Araxnid | king* |
| 14:18.46 | nolliepoper | otay |
| 14:18.47 | ProzaicMuze | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/902030335? |
| 14:18.55 | Araxnid | i will left comment in ru area |
| 14:19.20 | nolliepoper | ProzaicMuze the popularity system works fine. |
| 14:19.31 | ProzaicMuze | Oh no you didn't. . . |
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| 14:19.44 | nolliepoper | The first few days my map only got around 50 gamers per hour but not its getting 3k. |
| 14:20.05 | ProzaicMuze | The system is NOT fine at all |
| 14:20.10 | ProzaicMuze | You can ONLY play popular maps |
| 14:20.16 | nolliepoper | If a map is ment to get played then it will. |
| 14:20.32 | ProzaicMuze | That's just stupid |
| 14:20.47 | ProzaicMuze | "meant to be played" is a bad action plan. |
| 14:20.49 | nolliepoper | It is working my favor now so |
| 14:20.57 | ProzaicMuze | So of course you like it |
| 14:21.03 | ProzaicMuze | That's ignorant |
| 14:21.06 | grim001 | damn you're dumb nollie |
| 14:21.10 | ProzaicMuze | The problem doesn't affect you so you say it's not a problem |
| 14:21.14 | nolliepoper | only featured maps need help but mine wasn't |
| 14:21.21 | nolliepoper | and just slowly got more popular |
| 14:21.30 | ProzaicMuze | The vast majority of everyone in here will disagree with you and insult your intelligence with that kind of mentality |
| 14:21.32 | nolliepoper | because people really do play new maps and further maps. |
| 14:22.28 | ProzaicMuze | The popularity system is broken in that you can take ANY map and spam it to the top |
| 14:22.34 | ProzaicMuze | Your idea that games meant to be popular will rise is just false |
| 14:22.35 | ProzaicMuze | Why? |
| 14:22.36 | nolliepoper | The only fix would do be add more options |
| 14:22.45 | Icebane | Hey Prozaic what about forming a Editor q&A raping team for net years BlizzCon? |
| 14:22.45 | nolliepoper | and keep the original system of popularity too. |
| 14:22.46 | ProzaicMuze | because I can spam a map above you |
| 14:23.00 | ProzaicMuze | in fact I can spam 10 maps above you |
| 14:23.01 | ProzaicMuze | or 100 |
| 14:23.03 | ProzaicMuze | just by using bots |
| 14:23.06 | nolliepoper | Takes more than one players to spam a map. |
| 14:23.09 | ProzaicMuze | Now I'm using the system to push your game down |
| 14:23.12 | ProzaicMuze | No, it doesn't |
| 14:23.17 | ProzaicMuze | it takes one person with bots and the know-how |
| 14:23.19 | nolliepoper | takes 2 |
| 14:23.25 | nolliepoper | well 2 accounts |
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| 14:23.40 | ProzaicMuze | So? |
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| 14:23.58 | ProzaicMuze | If I can pay money that will allow me to break the system, tha's just wrong |
| 14:24.06 | ProzaicMuze | and Icebane, if they have SC2 Q&A for the editor next year |
| 14:24.13 | ProzaicMuze | I'll be in contact with whomever is going |
| 14:24.16 | ProzaicMuze | and if the game STILL isn't fixed |
| 14:24.24 | Icebane | Alright, if I get the money I'll might be going |
| 14:24.28 | ProzaicMuze | I will give those people a massive list of things to beat blizzard over the head with |
| 14:24.36 | Icebane | yet its far away from Canada to Sweden lulz |
| 14:24.37 | ProzaicMuze | But back to nollie |
| 14:24.47 | ProzaicMuze | You're blind if you don't see the problems |
| 14:25.04 | ProzaicMuze | Popularity should be an optional filter you can apply OUTSIDE of the norm |
| 14:25.17 | ProzaicMuze | Not the standard for determining map rankings that you cannot filter |
| 14:25.34 | Icebane | Agreed Prozaic, I see I'm not the only one worried about the popularity :P |
| 14:25.34 | ProzaicMuze | This is evident in music (genres, artists), movies, tv etc |
| 14:25.58 | Icebane | I prefer custom-map list like wc3 from the lousy popularity system that is atm. |
| 14:26.37 | ProzaicMuze | If television stations changed their policy to ONLY tell you about shows that have above X viewers and completely ignore shows that didn't hvae that, 90% of shows would die |
| 14:26.48 | ProzaicMuze | New shows wouldn't ever come around because they wouldn't be advertised |
| 14:26.56 | ProzaicMuze | They wouldnt' show up in television schedules |
| 14:27.12 | ProzaicMuze | You would only be able to watch the old shows that have been around and have lots of viewers |
| 14:27.23 | ProzaicMuze | But with your mentality, they have lots of viewers, so obviously they were meant to be watched, right? |
| 14:27.25 | ProzaicMuze | Wrong |
| 14:27.42 | nolliepoper | Well obusing the system doesn't help bro. |
| 14:27.47 | ProzaicMuze | They have lots of viewers because nobody knows other shows exist. Because the system essentially censors out new content. |
| 14:27.50 | nolliepoper | Just give it some time. |
| 14:27.53 | ProzaicMuze | I don't abuse the system |
| 14:28.01 | ProzaicMuze | But the fact that you can is a huge factor in why it's broken |
| 14:28.04 | ProzaicMuze | And no, I won't give it time |
| 14:28.09 | ProzaicMuze | Time doesn't fix a problem |
| 14:28.11 | ProzaicMuze | ACTION fixes a problem |
| 14:28.14 | nolliepoper | I have no complaints |
| 14:28.27 | ProzaicMuze | Because you're just happy it hasn't affected you yet |
| 14:28.30 | nolliepoper | Right now I am out of town without any sc2 |
| 14:28.32 | ProzaicMuze | So because it doesn't affect you, it can't be a problem |
| 14:28.46 | nolliepoper | Well no its that that |
| 14:28.48 | nolliepoper | Listne. |
| 14:28.49 | ProzaicMuze | BTW |
| 14:28.50 | ProzaicMuze | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/902030335?page=2&postCommandKey=#37 |
| 14:28.57 | ProzaicMuze | Go there and leave feedback |
| 14:29.13 | nolliepoper | When I left for the weekend my map had 60 games per hour I was happy |
| 14:29.21 | ProzaicMuze | (It's a popularity system thread_ |
| 14:29.24 | nolliepoper | I was on here last night and rodigo said its at 3k |
| 14:29.39 | nolliepoper | hard to believe tbh |
| 14:29.43 | nolliepoper | so the system is just fine. |
| 14:29.49 | ProzaicMuze | No, it's not |
| 14:29.56 | ProzaicMuze | But you don't get that. |
| 14:29.58 | ProzaicMuze | That's fine |
| 14:30.03 | nolliepoper | It's not at 3k anymore |
| 14:30.07 | nolliepoper | can you check? |
| 14:30.11 | ProzaicMuze | Nope |
| 14:30.20 | nolliepoper | Then I won't check your thread |
| 14:30.25 | ProzaicMuze | I don't know your map |
| 14:30.29 | nolliepoper | You want everyone to work for you? |
| 14:30.38 | ProzaicMuze | Yes, I want everyone to work for me |
| 14:30.44 | nolliepoper | Go check it really quick |
| 14:30.48 | nolliepoper | Tank D V4 |
| 14:31.00 | nolliepoper | on battle.net |
| 14:31.03 | nolliepoper | custom maps |
| 14:31.49 | Icebane | noliepoper, realise this that if we keep going like this with this popularity system there will be tons of maps that never even would reach the surface - just like the custom map list got destroyed by DotA (mainly) |
| 14:32.08 | Icebane | There have been tons and tons of maps better than dota that never reached the light |
| 14:32.09 | Icebane | to bad |
| 14:32.34 | nolliepoper | Did anyone check and report back? |
| 14:33.23 | Icebane | Check what? |
| 14:33.29 | ProzaicMuze | 4281 |
| 14:33.34 | ProzaicMuze | And I just looked at the map |
| 14:33.48 | ProzaicMuze | Your map is rising because it's just another TD map |
| 14:33.51 | ProzaicMuze | And a remake at that |
| 14:33.59 | ProzaicMuze | I'm not saying the map is bad |
| 14:34.04 | nolliepoper | Yeah I enjoyed that from sc1 |
| 14:34.11 | ProzaicMuze | But it's not new at all |
| 14:34.22 | nolliepoper | I did it to help the people so they can enjoy it here too |
| 14:34.30 | ProzaicMuze | That's fine, nothing wrong with that |
| 14:34.37 | ProzaicMuze | But what I'm saying is it was neither new nor innovative |
| 14:34.41 | ProzaicMuze | Nothing about it screams "creativity" |
| 14:34.49 | ProzaicMuze | it's just you porting/updating an old map |
| 14:35.01 | nolliepoper | Well the vote system is a bonus |
| 14:35.26 | nolliepoper | In the last game only red could start the rounds |
| 14:35.41 | nolliepoper | and if he left, the game was at a stand still until everyone quit |
| 14:35.57 | ProzaicMuze | I have no clue what you're talking abotu |
| 14:36.05 | ProzaicMuze | I haven't played it and I probably won't for quite some time |
| 14:36.13 | ProzaicMuze | I don't play custom maps online unless beta testing atm |
| 14:36.28 | ProzaicMuze | I have no interest in supporting the popularity system until it's reasonably fixed |
| 14:36.28 | Icebane | Neither do I. |
| 14:36.38 | Icebane | Feels like there isn't a single mature custom map yet. |
| 14:37.15 | nolliepoper | mature? |
| 14:37.24 | nolliepoper | cool word for maps |
| 14:37.25 | ProzaicMuze | Finished, polished |
| 14:37.28 | ProzaicMuze | Complete |
| 14:37.33 | ProzaicMuze | INNOVATIVE |
| 14:37.43 | nolliepoper | mature |
| 14:37.47 | nolliepoper | like dirty tank d |
| 14:37.54 | ProzaicMuze | Everything up there is a clone of a clone of a clone of a TD of a Line wars of a AoS |
| 14:37.55 | nolliepoper | and those styles? |
| 14:38.16 | ProzaicMuze | dirty tank d would be risque |
| 14:38.28 | Icebane | Mature could mean "fully considered and perfected" - unless you didn't know? :P |
| 14:39.11 | Xaragoth | you should make an AoS that is actually a TD with RP elements and Jump&Run parts with the Duke ... eh, wait. |
| 14:39.16 | nolliepoper | A perfect map for me isn't one that uses the galaxy editor to it's full potiential but rather has balance and no bugs. |
| 14:39.52 | ProzaicMuze | @Xaragoth - I should make an 8 player map that takes an hour to play popular |
| 14:39.54 | Icebane | Also the popularity system isn't very motivating for oneother.. I mean if you spend yet another 200h on a map that won't even catch an interest |
| 14:39.56 | Xaragoth | fighting bugs is like fighting water: ya never win. |
| 14:40.22 | ProzaicMuze | Unless you kill the atmosphere. . . then all the water dies |
| 14:40.31 | Xaragoth | it just floats away |
| 14:40.44 | ProzaicMuze | Which is winnned |
| 14:40.52 | ProzaicMuze | btw |
| 14:40.52 | nolliepoper | Prozaic you want the popularity system to be based off time played instead of games? |
| 14:40.59 | ProzaicMuze | No |
| 14:41.05 | ProzaicMuze | I want the popularity system to go away |
| 14:41.08 | ProzaicMuze | and be an optional filter |
| 14:41.14 | ProzaicMuze | not the end-all for listing |
| 14:41.28 | ProzaicMuze | You should be able to filter by name (asc/desc) |
| 14:41.39 | ProzaicMuze | You should be able to fitler by genre (blizzard makes some defaults you can put yours in) |
| 14:41.43 | nolliepoper | I think they should just have a bunch of filters and settings that would locked to your last used. |
| 14:41.44 | Araxnid | we need to create users based ratings |
| 14:41.47 | Araxnid | not just popularity |
| 14:41.49 | ProzaicMuze | By creation date, by author, etc |
| 14:41.56 | Araxnid | like you played a map, and give a balls after end |
| 14:41.57 | ProzaicMuze | There should be a rating system |
| 14:42.07 | ProzaicMuze | so after playing the game you can rate it out of 10 stars (5 is too few) |
| 14:42.11 | Araxnid | yes |
| 14:42.15 | nolliepoper | If I only wanna play new maps sorted by time played. then it should remember my prefference. |
| 14:42.16 | ProzaicMuze | Implementing that into the score screen would be mindlessly easy |
| 14:42.21 | Icebane | Yepp, rating would be perfect. |
| 14:42.31 | nolliepoper | Rating would just be another filter tho. |
| 14:42.32 | ProzaicMuze | Since most of these now popular maps would be rated way down |
| 14:42.34 | Araxnid | i dont know why blizzard dont wanna to employ this things |
| 14:42.38 | nolliepoper | we still need a popularity filture |
| 14:42.38 | ProzaicMuze | another fitler is a GOOD thing |
| 14:42.46 | nolliepoper | But once again |
| 14:42.49 | ProzaicMuze | You don't need filters for insdie of popularity |
| 14:42.50 | Araxnid | we need MORE filters, not just one popularity |
| 14:42.51 | nolliepoper | I don't wanna keep changing it. |
| 14:42.51 | ProzaicMuze | you need separate filters |
| 14:42.54 | ProzaicMuze | so you can find what you want |
| 14:42.56 | nolliepoper | everytime I hit join. |
| 14:43.17 | ProzaicMuze | But you want to hit see more |
| 14:43.19 | ProzaicMuze | every tiem you join |
| 14:43.39 | ProzaicMuze | filters would take maybe 5-6 seconds to quickly setup |
| 14:43.49 | ProzaicMuze | see more requires minutes in some cases |
| 14:43.54 | Araxnid | and 1 day to develop |
| 14:44.13 | Araxnid | blizzard is bad =( |
| 14:44.20 | ProzaicMuze | BNet 2.0 is bad |
| 14:44.22 | ProzaicMuze | Blizzard is just dumb |
| 14:44.29 | ProzaicMuze | Because they think it's good |
| 14:44.31 | Araxnid | why they dont wanna to hear us? |
| 14:44.36 | Araxnid | but were saying its bad |
| 14:44.45 | ProzaicMuze | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/902030335?page=2 |
| 14:44.45 | Araxnid | maybe its good concept |
| 14:44.46 | Icebane | In my eyes, SC2 and Bnet 2.0 is still in beta <.< |
| 14:44.50 | ProzaicMuze | Go there and give feedback |
| 14:44.56 | ProzaicMuze | It's what we're currently talkign bout |
| 14:45.02 | ProzaicMuze | then spam the link to friends who agree |
| 14:45.46 | ProzaicMuze | is sucks censored on the forum? lol |
| 14:45.51 | Araxnid | i cant post on us |
| 14:45.53 | nolliepoper | Cool thing about the popularity system is that it works for impatient gamers who wanna join a full game. |
| 14:45.54 | Araxnid | i dont have us sc2 |
| 14:46.01 | ProzaicMuze | What. . . you can't post on our forums? |
| 14:46.02 | Icebane | use "blows" instead xD |
| 14:46.06 | ProzaicMuze | Now that is epicly ghey |
| 14:46.10 | ProzaicMuze | It's not for my post |
| 14:46.24 | Araxnid | i cant post on us forum |
| 14:46.32 | Araxnid | i can post on eu\ru forums |
| 14:46.33 | ProzaicMuze | the thread name is "Popularity System S*^#@!" |
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| 14:46.44 | ProzaicMuze | well then make a thread there Araxnid |
| 14:46.50 | ProzaicMuze | spread the word! |
| 14:46.52 | Icebane | "You need a StarCraft II character (created in-game) to post on the forums. " |
| 14:46.59 | ProzaicMuze | ghey |
| 14:47.02 | Icebane | That's the deal when you're on eu... |
| 14:47.08 | ProzaicMuze | Stupid region locking crap |
| 14:47.11 | ProzaicMuze | That's another dumb thing |
| 14:47.18 | Icebane | Yeah completly retarded |
| 14:47.22 | ProzaicMuze | Which also hurts the UMS scene |
| 14:47.30 | Araxnid | yes :( |
| 14:47.41 | Icebane | they could filter the games so that you end up playing with players around your region in first hand |
| 14:47.44 | Icebane | but naah |
| 14:47.47 | Icebane | we split them |
| 14:47.52 | Icebane | -.- |
| 14:48.45 | Araxnid | only valve can create such thing |
| 14:48.50 | Icebane | There were some things that the Q&A panel was like "Hey, thats some new fresh feedback" which have been running for months through-out the communities. I'm wondering how much they actually keep an eye on the sc2 modding community |
| 14:48.52 | Araxnid | its too 'hard" for others |
| 14:50.03 | ProzaicMuze | They don't |
| 14:50.09 | ProzaicMuze | other people in the company do |
| 14:50.15 | ProzaicMuze | then relay the information they find pertinent to them |
| 14:50.21 | ProzaicMuze | In company censorship |
| 14:50.40 | Icebane | -.- |
| 14:51.12 | mike9055 | is 8am too early to mow my lawn? |
| 14:51.19 | Icebane | Also.. if they would've given us the ability to host local games the key-pressed event lagg issue would've been partly fixed atm.. |
| 14:51.36 | Icebane | Cause my best times of life this far have been on wc3 lans with my best pals |
| 14:51.53 | Icebane | and sc2 will never give something like that |
| 14:51.59 | Icebane | really retarded... |
| 14:52.11 | ProzaicMuze | mike |
| 14:52.12 | ProzaicMuze | not at all |
| 14:52.14 | ProzaicMuze | in fact |
| 14:52.19 | ProzaicMuze | 8am is the perfect time to mow your lawn |
| 14:52.30 | mike9055 | thats what i thought |
| 14:52.39 | ProzaicMuze | SC2 will hvae LAN |
| 14:52.41 | mike9055 | til someone yelled at me for making too much noise too early in the morning |
| 14:52.41 | ProzaicMuze | it's just not finished yet |
| 14:52.46 | ProzaicMuze | the cracks are still working on the server emulator |
| 14:52.50 | Araxnid | i dont complain about LAn |
| 14:52.50 | ProzaicMuze | And when that LAN crack is uip |
| 14:53.00 | Araxnid | its just time people, the new features and etc etc |
| 14:53.05 | ProzaicMuze | I will use and abuse it like a beautiful woman |
| 14:53.24 | Icebane | Agreed ;o |
| 14:53.45 | Icebane | You know I've had two major projects blocked up due to the inability of the editor |
| 14:54.33 | Araxnid | in what points inability? |
| 14:54.42 | Icebane | First of all the key-pressed event lagg. |
| 14:55.00 | Icebane | and secondly the inability to add abilities dynamically during gameplay |
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| 14:55.13 | Clord | those key press events are still useful... in my THE Card Game very useful ^^ |
| 14:55.17 | Clord | some just not like to click |
| 14:55.21 | Clord | their cards |
| 14:55.41 | Icebane | Yepp, but the lagg like shit using realtime movement with keys |
| 14:55.49 | Clord | not to mention.. it makes click and then upgrade way faster |
| 14:55.54 | Araxnid | why you all so complaing about it wasd? |
| 14:55.59 | Araxnid | there was MUCH cool maps in wc3 |
| 14:56.15 | Icebane | Yepp but I'm kinda in the need of WASD |
| 14:56.17 | Araxnid | without this wasd |
| 14:57.40 | Icebane | What really pissed me of was the inability of adding abilities dynamically... cause some at Blizz stated: "I cant think of any function that isnt included in the GE that existed in WC3." |
| 14:58.01 | Icebane | Yet they didn't implement that... which have been used quite a lot in the wc3 editor |
| 14:58.18 | Icebane | Call custom-hero (pick and chose abilities) |
| 14:58.21 | Icebane | all* |
| 14:58.23 | Dustin| | Icebane |
| 14:58.30 | Dustin| | Like 20 different things that isnt in the GE |
| 14:58.34 | Dustin| | Those mother fuckers |
| 14:58.38 | Icebane | Yepp |
| 14:58.56 | Dustin| | I wish I could have been at blizzcon this year to ask questions |
| 14:59.01 | Dustin| | Fuckers wouldnt have known what hit them |
| 14:59.05 | Icebane | The thing was that I'd put about 100 hours of design on paper |
| 14:59.10 | Icebane | based around that functionality |
| 14:59.12 | wOlfLinG | Well, just be thankful it isn't EA that made SC2 -.- |
| 14:59.24 | Icebane | wOlfLinG: lol agreed |
| 14:59.28 | wOlfLinG | At least blizzard seems to be trying to fix stuff |
| 14:59.37 | Icebane | true dat |
| 14:59.40 | Icebane | yet they |
| 14:59.44 | Icebane | they're kinda slow atm |
| 14:59.49 | wOlfLinG | 1c4nh45l0lc4t! |
| 14:59.52 | wOlfLinG | :/ |
| 14:59.56 | Dustin| | But in reality, they've done this shit before, why couldnt they just take the WC3 editor and make it more badass |
| 14:59.57 | wOlfLinG | that was wierd |
| 14:59.58 | Icebane | hopefully they'll give sc2 some more effort after cataclysm release |
| 15:00.12 | Dustin| | instead of making a whole new editor where yuo dont even include features that were in the old one |
| 15:00.18 | Icebane | Yepp |
| 15:00.25 | Icebane | Very true Dustin |
| 15:00.35 | Icebane | thats what I'm saying, THE EDITOR IS STILL BETA! 8( |
| 15:00.53 | wOlfLinG | Well cata is a big thing for blizz right now |
| 15:01.34 | wOlfLinG | SC2 melee balance and cata seem to be taking up 90% of their time, so we are lucky we get GE stuff at all |
| 15:01.47 | Icebane | Yepp |
| 15:02.54 | Icebane | Also the GE is a real pain in the ass to learn |
| 15:03.06 | Icebane | unless you didn't have any wc3 edit experience |
| 15:03.17 | wOlfLinG | yeah |
| 15:03.22 | wOlfLinG | I didn't :P |
| 15:03.32 | Icebane | I probably would've skipped editing if it wasnt for the sc2 mapster |
| 15:03.35 | Icebane | forever grateful <3 |
| 15:05.02 | Icebane | I mean, without all of those tutorials I dunno wwhat I would've done |
| 15:08.04 | wOlfLinG | yeah |
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| 15:14.06 | Demonette | -.- it calculates the map to death... |
| 15:14.07 | Demonette | yeaaa |
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| 15:17.45 | nolliepoper | Pro you here? |
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| 15:23.10 | Saucy | I think the .m3 blender plugin asset is abandoned :'( |
| 15:23.18 | ProzaicMuze | THere are several "pro" |
| 15:23.21 | ProzaicMuze | which one you talkin' abotu? |
| 15:23.27 | nolliepoper | you |
| 15:23.36 | ProzaicMuze | well then yes, I'm here :) |
| 15:23.59 | nolliepoper | Blizz ain't gonna change the system without a plan to change it too |
| 15:24.14 | nolliepoper | and your comment just said to change it and you vote yes. |
| 15:24.23 | nolliepoper | I can post something tho. |
| 15:24.36 | nolliepoper | I was reading the thread. |
| 15:24.45 | ProzaicMuze | I didn't post a plan because I already have many times |
| 15:24.56 | ProzaicMuze | at this point plans arne't going to help as much as massive negative feedback |
| 15:25.03 | ProzaicMuze | The suggestions can come AFTER they admit there is a problem |
| 15:25.04 | Clord | lol |
| 15:25.12 | ProzaicMuze | Until then, our ideas are just walls of text |
| 15:25.18 | nolliepoper | They already know they need to change it. |
| 15:25.20 | nolliepoper | Trust me. |
| 15:25.22 | ProzaicMuze | No, they don't |
| 15:25.35 | ProzaicMuze | They dodge questions about it and tell us that we shoudl do things to fix our maps |
| 15:25.38 | nolliepoper | They just can't change it yet because they dunno what will work. |
| 15:25.47 | nolliepoper | Those guys were map makers |
| 15:25.50 | nolliepoper | lul |
| 15:26.06 | ProzaicMuze | What, so you have some kind of insider information? |
| 15:26.11 | nolliepoper | They don't have to worry about the popularity system with their maps |
| 15:26.21 | ProzaicMuze | Because I haven't seen anytihng that suggests they agree with out sentiments |
| 15:27.11 | ProzaicMuze | if you have proof or links to show me I'll gladly suss 'em out |
| 15:27.46 | nolliepoper | Show you wut huh? |
| 15:28.06 | nolliepoper | Must have misread my feedback to your link sharing |
| 15:28.38 | ProzaicMuze | misread what? |
| 15:28.48 | ProzaicMuze | Have you alraedy made a post in that thread? |
| 15:28.58 | nolliepoper | No |
| 15:29.06 | nolliepoper | First I was asking you |
| 15:29.15 | nolliepoper | then you wanted all this proof from me. |
| 15:29.19 | nolliepoper | so idk bro |
| 15:29.28 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 15:29.50 | ProzaicMuze | I think you misread me actually |
| 15:29.55 | ProzaicMuze | YOu said they wouldn't change it without a plan |
| 15:30.04 | ProzaicMuze | I countered by explaining they haven't admitted tho there being a problem. |
| 15:30.21 | ProzaicMuze | Thus feedback containing ideas isn't going to help as much as a general consensus that there IS a problem. |
| 15:30.25 | nolliepoper | Fine I guess I'll just post something that sounds retarded |
| 15:30.28 | ProzaicMuze | Then you said they are aware of it. |
| 15:30.49 | ProzaicMuze | And I'm saying I have seen nothing of the sort and asked for proof or a link. |
| 15:30.57 | ProzaicMuze | That way I can look at it and see what you're talking about. |
| 15:31.14 | ProzaicMuze | Then you got confused. |
| 15:31.20 | nolliepoper | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/8/979/bnetfail.png |
| 15:31.44 | nolliepoper | They got the messege in more than one ways |
| 15:31.58 | ProzaicMuze | There is a difference between getting the message and agreeing. |
| 15:32.07 | ProzaicMuze | They have had the message sent to them many, many times |
| 15:32.11 | ProzaicMuze | but they ignored it. |
| 15:32.23 | nolliepoper | wait' |
| 15:32.28 | Araxnid | oh damn |
| 15:32.34 | nolliepoper | where is your proof that they ignore it? |
| 15:32.46 | Araxnid | you are speaking about popularity system? |
| 15:32.47 | Araxnid | i was afk |
| 15:32.53 | Araxnid | oh smh else? |
| 15:33.03 | nolliepoper | We only speak about the popularity system. |
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| 15:33.27 | nolliepoper | We shall not speak of anything but the popularity system until it is fixed. |
| 15:33.31 | ProzaicMuze | The fact that they have yet to say the popularity system is bad and needs reworking is proof |
| 15:33.49 | ProzaicMuze | The fact that they just say "it's fine" is proof. |
| 15:34.00 | Araxnid | yep, the last blizzcon is a proof |
| 15:34.07 | nolliepoper | I would not wanna thumbs down my own work and niether would blizzard |
| 15:34.19 | nolliepoper | but if they take not and "improve it" |
| 15:34.19 | slightlyrandom | Well, sometimes you have to |
| 15:34.20 | ProzaicMuze | I wouldn't be saying what I am if they started asking for feedback about the popularity system. |
| 15:34.22 | slightlyrandom | If it is, indeed, shit |
| 15:34.23 | ProzaicMuze | That's arrogance/ego |
| 15:34.26 | Araxnid | its nout about developing map |
| 15:34.31 | Araxnid | its about playing in them with someone |
| 15:34.39 | ProzaicMuze | If you make a bad product, you're stupid if you just pretend it's not bad. |
| 15:34.48 | Araxnid | i think >50% playing maps that only on 1 page |
| 15:35.08 | nolliepoper | Prozaic remember when you checked my map |
| 15:35.15 | nolliepoper | was that on the first or second? |
| 15:35.20 | ProzaicMuze | page? |
| 15:35.20 | nolliepoper | Just wondering |
| 15:35.27 | nolliepoper | yeah and any filtures? |
| 15:35.30 | ProzaicMuze | 2nd page |
| 15:35.30 | nolliepoper | like custom only? |
| 15:35.38 | ProzaicMuze | but I think it would be 1st if no featured maps were at the top |
| 15:35.39 | nolliepoper | for custom onlys? |
| 15:35.57 | ProzaicMuze | I didn't click any features |
| 15:36.03 | ProzaicMuze | I just clicked join |
| 15:36.04 | nolliepoper | also check new maps only and see if it's still up there? |
| 15:36.11 | nolliepoper | o ok |
| 15:36.16 | nolliepoper | first do custom only |
| 15:36.27 | ProzaicMuze | I don't have the game open and am currently editing pictures |
| 15:36.29 | nolliepoper | I wish I could go home damn |
| 15:36.30 | ProzaicMuze | I can no longer open SC2 |
| 15:36.34 | nolliepoper | thats cool |
| 15:36.36 | ProzaicMuze | At least until I finish editing pictures. |
| 15:36.51 | nolliepoper | Why so many picture edits? |
| 15:37.04 | ProzaicMuze | Because it's what I do to make money? |
| 15:37.15 | ProzaicMuze | I edit pictures for photographers. |
| 15:37.20 | nolliepoper | I wanna make games for moneys |
| 15:37.25 | ProzaicMuze | I edit a LOT of pictures because I want to make a LOT of money :) |
| 15:37.29 | ProzaicMuze | So do I |
| 15:37.37 | ProzaicMuze | but there's no reason why I can't do both |
| 15:37.39 | nolliepoper | We can work together |
| 15:37.40 | ProzaicMuze | or in my base 4-5 things |
| 15:37.45 | ProzaicMuze | case* |
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| 15:38.03 | nolliepoper | How you making money with simple photoshops |
| 15:38.52 | Tordy | . |
| 15:38.54 | Tordy | hi |
| 15:38.55 | nolliepoper | I need more college moneys haha |
| 15:39.20 | ProzaicMuze | simple photoshops? lol |
| 15:39.41 | ProzaicMuze | Photographers for Senior/Maternity/Newborn sessions make $800 per session and more |
| 15:39.42 | nolliepoper | o ma bad |
| 15:40.00 | nolliepoper | I have gimp so where do I start? |
| 15:40.44 | ProzaicMuze | I make 5-10% of the session depending on whether or not they want artistic images (textures, borders, color alterations) |
| 15:40.50 | ProzaicMuze | Gimp. . . |
| 15:40.51 | ProzaicMuze | first |
| 15:40.53 | ProzaicMuze | shoot yourself |
| 15:40.56 | ProzaicMuze | then get Photoshop |
| 15:40.58 | ProzaicMuze | Gimp is horrible |
| 15:41.01 | nolliepoper | just playing ha |
| 15:41.12 | ProzaicMuze | But yeah |
| 15:41.16 | nolliepoper | Don't hate I can show you some of my workwith gimp its amazing |
| 15:41.26 | ProzaicMuze | I dont' doubt that gimp can make cool things |
| 15:41.28 | nolliepoper | Have you ever used gimp? |
| 15:41.32 | ProzaicMuze | But I know that gimp is vastly inferior to Photoshop |
| 15:41.34 | ProzaicMuze | Yes |
| 15:41.36 | ProzaicMuze | it's bad |
| 15:41.42 | nolliepoper | For how long? |
| 15:41.54 | ProzaicMuze | Just because someone can make cool stuff with bad tools doesn't mean that he shouldnt' be using the better tools. |
| 15:42.01 | nolliepoper | I don't like adobe trying to always put shit on my computer runnings |
| 15:42.04 | ProzaicMuze | A very short period of time. I realized almost immediately it was bad. |
| 15:42.05 | nolliepoper | so -1 |
| 15:42.11 | nolliepoper | No |
| 15:42.14 | ProzaicMuze | It's called Crap Cleaer |
| 15:42.16 | ProzaicMuze | you turn all that off |
| 15:42.17 | nolliepoper | You realized it wasn't adobe |
| 15:42.21 | ProzaicMuze | ERm |
| 15:42.22 | ProzaicMuze | no |
| 15:42.23 | nolliepoper | I have ccleaner |
| 15:42.25 | ProzaicMuze | I realized it was bad |
| 15:42.27 | nolliepoper | but each update really |
| 15:42.28 | ProzaicMuze | I don't care who makes it |
| 15:42.36 | ProzaicMuze | Photoshop is better |
| 15:42.39 | ProzaicMuze | I hate Mac |
| 15:42.44 | ProzaicMuze | which is what Photoshop was originally made fro |
| 15:42.50 | ProzaicMuze | But I still like Photoshop |
| 15:43.28 | ProzaicMuze | So it being adobe has nothing to do with it |
| 15:43.41 | ProzaicMuze | I don't blindly worship a game/program because a certain person made it lol |
| 15:44.02 | nolliepoper | Hey |
| 15:44.03 | Tordy | this is me |
| 15:44.03 | Tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC1CUl4XcZc#t=20s |
| 15:44.09 | nolliepoper | I made this with gimp so l33t |
| 15:44.10 | Tordy | how do i look? |
| 15:44.10 | nolliepoper | http://i47.tinypic.com/2cifwhz.gif |
| 15:44.10 | ProzaicMuze | I have no problem criticizing stuff lol |
| 15:44.32 | ProzaicMuze | You could make that not look so noisy with Photoshop |
| 15:44.41 | nolliepoper | dang so many haters |
| 15:45.00 | ProzaicMuze | Tordy, is that actually you? |
| 15:45.03 | nolliepoper | "noisy" |
| 15:45.10 | ProzaicMuze | Noise |
| 15:45.15 | ProzaicMuze | as in the sharp pixels |
| 15:45.42 | nolliepoper | I can fix that in gimp but didn't learn |
| 15:46.34 | ProzaicMuze | Tordy, I bet a skinny asian man could eat those pizza rolls faster lol |
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| 15:46.50 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
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| 15:47.04 | Creation | Morning. |
| 15:47.05 | ProzaicMuze | nollie, if you haven't learned something like noise reduction, how can you say Gimp is better? |
| 15:47.10 | ProzaicMuze | I'm an ADVANCED photoshop user |
| 15:47.12 | nolliepoper | promuze I found some proof |
| 15:47.23 | ProzaicMuze | So when I say that gimp is bad, I'm saying it's bad because it cant' do what Photoshop can do Xp |
| 15:47.28 | ProzaicMuze | link me |
| 15:47.39 | nolliepoper | the first few seconds of this video |
| 15:47.41 | nolliepoper | umm |
| 15:48.00 | Clord | oh my god... yet another "I'm proud of getting fatter" |
| 15:48.01 | Clord | XD |
| 15:48.03 | nolliepoper | they said the popularity system is a work in progress which is enough proof for me. |
| 15:48.04 | nolliepoper | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUJqdEiWRXw&feature=player_embedded#at=48 |
| 15:48.12 | IDEATH | How do you make a unit give you money after you kill it? |
| 15:48.25 | Clord | nowadays youtubers do anything for popularity |
| 15:48.25 | Clord | lol |
| 15:48.29 | ProzaicMuze | a work in progress? |
| 15:48.29 | SycoPrime | IDEATH: By taking its wallet. |
| 15:48.30 | Shawn|Rawr | Kill Resource I believe |
| 15:48.33 | Shawn|Rawr | in data |
| 15:48.34 | ProzaicMuze | YOu do realize that's the epitome of a dodge |
| 15:48.43 | ProzaicMuze | Work in Progress, consider it in the future, looking into it. . . |
| 15:48.45 | ProzaicMuze | all dodges |
| 15:48.54 | ProzaicMuze | They don't see it NEEDS improvement |
| 15:48.59 | Tordy | here's another nice vid of me |
| 15:48.59 | Tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP74xUyYaoo#t=48s |
| 15:49.01 | nolliepoper | Why not |
| 15:50.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ashamed (43adf1dc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.173.241.220) |
| 15:50.05 | ProzaicMuze | omfg |
| 15:50.09 | ProzaicMuze | what is wrong with him? |
| 15:50.11 | Clord | jesus |
| 15:50.17 | slightlyrandom | haha |
| 15:50.20 | Ashamed | does anyone know the doodad count on sc2? |
| 15:50.25 | slightlyrandom | I'm watching the custom map and editor panel |
| 15:50.37 | ProzaicMuze | IDEATH - modify player |
| 15:50.47 | Clord | I actually finally bought that blizzcon 2010 virtual ticket |
| 15:50.54 | Clord | my greedy side took over |
| 15:50.58 | ProzaicMuze | Effect - Modify Player lets you increase/decrease a player's resources |
| 15:51.01 | slightlyrandom | They were asked, "How do I get people to play/test my map, the popularity system sucks!" and the answer was, "Well, don't use Battle.net, build your own community" |
| 15:51.02 | Clord | for moment |
| 15:51.10 | ProzaicMuze | So if you run that when the unit dies it will give you monaiz |
| 15:51.25 | IDEATH | oh ok |
| 15:51.29 | Clord | it is true |
| 15:51.31 | slightlyrandom | Clord: http://www.youtube.com/user/noobclubru |
| 15:51.47 | nolliepoper | What kinda map you making ideath |
| 15:51.50 | Clord | I have one map popular because it happened to be one of first maps in list |
| 15:51.54 | Clord | so it got well known |
| 15:51.55 | Clord | XD |
| 15:53.05 | Ashamed | anyone one know the doodad limit? |
| 15:53.31 | nolliepoper | never used them. |
| 15:53.50 | ProzaicMuze | There is something very wrong with this mastadon dude |
| 15:54.32 | ProzaicMuze | >9000 |
| 15:55.06 | Ashamed | more then 9000! |
| 15:55.11 | ProzaicMuze | yes |
| 15:55.13 | SycoPrime | I'm confused. This skinny kid on the panel keeps talking about "Blizzard DoTA" |
| 15:55.17 | Tordy | yo PM |
| 15:55.18 | SycoPrime | Did they make a full-on dota map? |
| 15:55.21 | Tordy | sign up for me |
| 15:55.21 | Tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dp_e791VcI |
| 15:55.26 | slightlyrandom | They are making it, yes SycoPrime |
| 15:55.41 | SycoPrime | Ah, and it won't be released until such time that we have to pay for maps, I assume. |
| 15:55.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Do we know yet if ekco is joining them? |
| 15:55.52 | Creation | Video for my new game just released if you guys feel like checking it out |
| 15:55.54 | Creation | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBU4pZuPB4c |
| 15:55.55 | slightlyrandom | I think the problem is it being more fun to play |
| 15:55.56 | ProzaicMuze | Tordy |
| 15:55.58 | ProzaicMuze | if that's seriously you |
| 15:56.03 | ProzaicMuze | I'm going to smack you |
| 15:56.05 | ProzaicMuze | so hard |
| 15:56.21 | ProzaicMuze | that the rippling effect will take days to travel across your body |
| 15:56.23 | Ashamed | -.- my rpg is going to rock |
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| 15:57.25 | ProzaicMuze | No, it's going to suck |
| 15:58.33 | Ashamed | Prozaic... you shouldn't talk to your fellow mapper like that |
| 15:58.55 | ProzaicMuze | Oh yeah? |
| 15:58.56 | ProzaicMuze | sorry |
| 15:59.01 | ProzaicMuze | It's REALLY going to suck |
| 15:59.02 | ProzaicMuze | I'll be honest |
| 15:59.07 | ProzaicMuze | I'm sorry for lying to you. |
| 15:59.15 | ProzaicMuze | Do you forgive me? |
| 15:59.37 | Ashamed | I am going to make a house system.. and i am going to just make teh houses with doodads up in the air |
| 15:59.40 | Ashamed | so you can't see them |
| 15:59.42 | Tordy | i think i look better w/ long hair |
| 15:59.43 | Tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DerSJJmFq8&NR=1 |
| 15:59.46 | Tordy | what do you think? |
| 15:59.46 | Shawn|Rawr | PM, how much can actually be done with SiteOps? |
| 16:00.03 | ProzaicMuze | That's a hard question to answer lol |
| 16:00.04 | SycoPrime | Tordy: I think you need to stop watching that fat kid. |
| 16:00.08 | Tordy | :/ |
| 16:00.12 | Tordy | im just so |
| 16:00.12 | SycoPrime | Shawn: Everything. |
| 16:00.14 | Tordy | attracted to himn |
| 16:00.25 | Tordy | in a non-homo way of course |
| 16:00.28 | Tordy | he is so interesting to watch |
| 16:00.31 | SycoPrime | Yeah, having your own gravity will produce that effect on people. |
| 16:00.44 | ProzaicMuze | But yeah, if i find something I can't do |
| 16:00.49 | ProzaicMuze | I turn to SOps to fix my problem |
| 16:01.00 | Tordy | PM were you at that map editor panel the other day? |
| 16:01.06 | ProzaicMuze | Nope |
| 16:01.09 | Tordy | D: |
| 16:01.11 | ProzaicMuze | I wish I was now that it passed |
| 16:01.18 | Creation | Proziac did you watch that video i just linked? |
| 16:01.18 | ProzaicMuze | They had a lack of questions and ended early |
| 16:01.18 | Shawn|Rawr | Well then, what can you do besides attach units to each other? |
| 16:01.19 | Tordy | where were you!? |
| 16:01.20 | SycoPrime | That video of the map editing panel was just as depressing as I anticipated. |
| 16:01.34 | ProzaicMuze | I would have raped that panel with hard-hitting questions |
| 16:01.43 | Creation | We're trying to figure out how to make an ability where a viking does a barrel roll |
| 16:01.44 | ProzaicMuze | but we decided they'd have shot me the first mention of ProzaicMuze |
| 16:01.45 | Tordy | data editor related questions? |
| 16:01.47 | Creation | can you do it? |
| 16:01.55 | SycoPrime | Like "Who are you" and "Where am I" And "How do you get your head so shiny?" |
| 16:02.03 | Tordy | cuz that data specialist looks like he knows his stuff |
| 16:02.10 | ProzaicMuze | Of course he knows his stuff |
| 16:02.13 | Tordy | hi PM |
| 16:02.20 | ProzaicMuze | But that's because he helped make it |
| 16:02.24 | ProzaicMuze | If he didn't, I'd smack the fool. |
| 16:02.27 | Tordy | >:) |
| 16:02.33 | SycoPrime | Creation: It's possible. Though Blizzard made it difficult, as usual. Hang on, I have the code for it somewhere. |
| 16:02.33 | ProzaicMuze | But he also showcased very simple things |
| 16:02.40 | Tordy | what is that "power slide" thing he's talking about |
| 16:02.41 | ProzaicMuze | Everything he covered I can teach yeh aside from the mouse-follow |
| 16:02.46 | Creation | nice |
| 16:02.47 | ProzaicMuze | because that's a new feature. |
| 16:02.48 | Creation | thanks |
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| 16:02.58 | ProzaicMuze | And what Syco said |
| 16:03.02 | ProzaicMuze | but he answered the question first. |
| 16:03.11 | Creation | Progammer developed the unit tracking mouse feature |
| 16:03.18 | Creation | but thats cheating the way he did it |
| 16:03.20 | Creation | too much lag |
| 16:03.25 | ProzaicMuze | Well yeah, I know how to do it too |
| 16:03.31 | ProzaicMuze | It uses global refs |
| 16:03.38 | Creation | yeah invisible units |
| 16:03.39 | Creation | right? |
| 16:03.41 | ProzaicMuze | No |
| 16:03.56 | Tordy | thought you said you dont know how to do it] |
| 16:03.57 | Tordy | :o |
| 16:04.03 | ProzaicMuze | I didn't say I don't know how |
| 16:04.09 | ProzaicMuze | I'm saying the way HE did it uses a new feature |
| 16:04.15 | ProzaicMuze | Which I can't show you because it's not available |
| 16:04.16 | SycoPrime | The concept behind what I wound up with is having multiple actors, and using triggers to swap the actors. |
| 16:04.17 | ProzaicMuze | I can imitate it though. |
| 16:05.01 | Tordy | stinky cheese? |
| 16:05.04 | ProzaicMuze | And I think a missed a question somewhere in there |
| 16:05.10 | ProzaicMuze | If one of you had a question for me I missed lemme know rofl |
| 16:05.29 | slightlyrandom | ProzaicMuze: Are you gay? |
| 16:05.31 | Shawn|Rawr | How would we do a barrel roll using site ops? |
| 16:05.36 | Shawn|Rawr | That was the ? |
| 16:05.54 | Tordy | are site ops magical |
| 16:05.54 | Tordy | i need to know more about them |
| 16:05.54 | ProzaicMuze | I thought Syco was answering that lol |
| 16:05.54 | ProzaicMuze | slightly |
| 16:05.54 | ProzaicMuze | yes |
| 16:05.58 | ProzaicMuze | Isogheyithurts |
| 16:05.58 | slightlyrandom | Awesome! |
| 16:06.03 | Tordy | would they help make stuff look much more awesome>? |
| 16:06.07 | Shawn|Rawr | oh.. well fine.. ;) |
| 16:06.21 | Shawn|Rawr | It made the ultralisk look way better |
| 16:06.24 | ProzaicMuze | Site ops are magical |
| 16:06.32 | ProzaicMuze | The Uberlisk uses site ops |
| 16:06.39 | ProzaicMuze | MY Uberlisk uses site ops at least |
| 16:06.43 | ProzaicMuze | I dunno what Blizzard did |
| 16:06.45 | ProzaicMuze | since mines better |
| 16:06.48 | ProzaicMuze | mine's* |
| 16:06.57 | ProzaicMuze | Lazy bums they are. |
| 16:07.06 | Shawn|Rawr | Maybe they don't even understand site ops |
| 16:07.12 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 16:07.26 | Shawn|Rawr | The programmers put it in there and the map devs don't know how to use them |
| 16:07.30 | SycoPrime | ProzaicMuze: It's a scarecly known secret that Blizzard actually made the uberlisk in 3dsmax. They just say you can do it in the data editor because they understood it to be theoretically possible. |
| 16:07.32 | ProzaicMuze | "Hey, what is this field you guys made?" "I dunno, it sounded cool when I was learning how to make stuff at school so I tossed it in" |
| 16:07.43 | ProzaicMuze | LMFAO |
| 16:07.45 | ProzaicMuze | Seriously Syco?! |
| 16:07.48 | SycoPrime | But after three days of trying to figure it out, the unit director said "Fuck it, 3dsmax is easier than our bullshit." |
| 16:07.50 | ProzaicMuze | So just like the Terratron? |
| 16:08.08 | Araxnid | hahahaha |
| 16:08.14 | slightlyrandom | I doubt it |
| 16:08.21 | SycoPrime | Nah, I'm fucking with you. But I wouldn't be surprised. Speaking of terran-tron, and site ops; have you figured out how to do that yet, PM? |
| 16:08.42 | ProzaicMuze | I know how to attach it all together, but animating it would be a nightmare of Mover Actors |
| 16:08.51 | wOlfLinG | Syco: Then they got a programmer with no 3DS max knowledge to make it xSD |
| 16:08.55 | wOlfLinG | xD* |
| 16:09.02 | ProzaicMuze | The shortcut being to create a custom model that has arm and leg bones with a walking animations |
| 16:09.06 | Shawn|Rawr | Seems like that would be hard since he has that blade thing that isnt a real buidling |
| 16:09.10 | ProzaicMuze | then I can sculpt the terran buildings over the top of that. |
| 16:09.20 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, the blade part I could't do until they released the models |
| 16:09.44 | ProzaicMuze | Right now I could animation the top-half of a terratron because most unit models have arm attachment points. |
| 16:09.58 | ProzaicMuze | But until something has legs, i'd need to make a crazy, crazy amount of movers and do math and hate life |
| 16:10.06 | ProzaicMuze | it IS possible though, so keep that in mind rofl |
| 16:10.08 | SycoPrime | hahaha |
| 16:10.18 | Araxnid | i think you can learn how to animate models in 3ds max |
| 16:10.25 | ProzaicMuze | That would be easier, yes |
| 16:10.25 | Araxnid | before you will understand how to do ths in sc2 |
| 16:10.28 | Shawn|Rawr | PM, I need more siteops tutorials |
| 16:10.31 | SycoPrime | Well, it's possible, but improbable without going mad... |
| 16:10.33 | ProzaicMuze | More!? |
| 16:10.35 | ProzaicMuze | I has 2! |
| 16:10.42 | ProzaicMuze | technically 2.5 since Turrets has site ops in it |
| 16:10.47 | ProzaicMuze | Turrets Tutorial, that is |
| 16:10.53 | ProzaicMuze | Heck, most of my tutorials have at least one site opin them. |
| 16:10.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Which one besides the uber? |
| 16:11.03 | ProzaicMuze | Working with Attachments |
| 16:11.08 | ProzaicMuze | click on the tutorial archive in my siggy |
| 16:11.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dogmai (~Ska@124.148.208.52) |
| 16:11.28 | ProzaicMuze | it has links to my completed tutorials and a list of tutorials that are going to be released whenI get around to typing them up |
| 16:11.32 | ProzaicMuze | which is something I might do today now that I think about it. |
| 16:12.45 | Shawn|Rawr | Actually, the flipped wraith one would be extremely helpful atm |
| 16:12.51 | Shawn|Rawr | Thanks :D |
| 16:13.07 | ProzaicMuze | lol good deal :) |
| 16:13.13 | Tordy | what's another word for "at least 1 from each side" |
| 16:13.30 | ProzaicMuze | I need to get in touch with onetwo so he and I can make a joint blog that has thumbnails of all our vids/tutorials |
| 16:13.36 | ProzaicMuze | radius 1? |
| 16:14.30 | SycoPrime | Flipped Wraith? |
| 16:14.42 | ProzaicMuze | I make it fly upside down |
| 16:14.55 | ProzaicMuze | People were asking how to make ships yaw/roll/pitch change. |
| 16:15.29 | SycoPrime | Ah |
| 16:15.31 | SycoPrime | Once is easy. |
| 16:15.38 | SycoPrime | Making it barrell roll, on the other hand. |
| 16:16.08 | Shawn|Rawr | Ya, are SiteOps set in stone or can they be changed over a time period? |
| 16:17.17 | ProzaicMuze | They can be changed through triggers |
| 16:17.23 | SycoPrime | How? |
| 16:17.33 | ProzaicMuze | doesn't know triggers |
| 16:17.37 | ProzaicMuze | I just know it's possible |
| 16:17.49 | ProzaicMuze | Either via Actor Messages or triggers that change fields on the Site Ops themselves. |
| 16:18.26 | Shawn|Rawr | I've never seen site ops in the triggers.. |
| 16:18.32 | Shawn|Rawr | starts furiously searching |
| 16:18.43 | SycoPrime | Well, I think I've seen the stuff there. |
| 16:18.49 | SycoPrime | I just have never seen a working example. |
| 16:18.59 | SycoPrime | Just because the editor SAYS it can do it, doesn't mean it can do it... |
| 16:19.29 | ProzaicMuze | After my current pending tutorials are finished I "might" dive into the triggers editor and start answering these kind of questions via tutorials. |
| 16:19.44 | ProzaicMuze | And you gotta remember, most of my tutorials have stuff people thought were impossible previously |
| 16:19.46 | Shawn|Rawr | Told you i need more siteops tuts :P |
| 16:19.50 | ProzaicMuze | So don't assume it's not possible lol |
| 16:19.54 | ProzaicMuze | Assume it is, but we don't know how yet. |
| 16:20.03 | ProzaicMuze | Unless it's something simply like a stupid % damage vamp |
| 16:20.18 | ProzaicMuze | which is not included in DE fields and must be hacked through triggers :*( |
| 16:20.46 | Shawn|Rawr | Isn't there just a behavior that converts damage dealt to health? |
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| 16:22.54 | ProzaicMuze | nope |
| 16:22.58 | ProzaicMuze | it does static numbers |
| 16:23.02 | ProzaicMuze | or % of current/max health |
| 16:23.06 | ProzaicMuze | not % of damage dealt |
| 16:23.14 | ProzaicMuze | Which makes no sense at all |
| 16:23.30 | ProzaicMuze | So a vampiric arua is nearly impossible |
| 16:23.33 | ProzaicMuze | aura* |
| 16:23.49 | Shawn|Rawr | lame. |
| 16:24.53 | Shawn|Rawr | Another dumb question! Which attach method would i use if i want to send an actor method for rotation? |
| 16:25.04 | Shawn|Rawr | actor message* |
| 16:26.18 | ProzaicMuze | HostSetSiteOps |
| 16:29.13 | Shawn|Rawr | Eh, I think I'm just doing exactly what you did in the flipped wraith tut lol. I think that is the trigger to change it though.. not sure yet |
| 16:29.34 | Araxnid | pmg |
| 16:29.35 | Araxnid | omg |
| 16:29.43 | Araxnid | i forget about this bug with closing gates |
| 16:29.44 | Araxnid | damn it.. |
| 16:30.01 | Araxnid | why blizz didnt still fix it.. |
| 16:30.26 | RodOfNOD | i think sixen must have gotten shit horn drunk for 3 days cuz i havent seen him at all |
| 16:32.22 | ProzaicMuze | Nor did he tell us anything he discovered |
| 16:32.24 | ProzaicMuze | What a loser |
| 16:32.25 | ProzaicMuze | totally fired |
| 16:32.29 | ProzaicMuze | and I'm getting a divorce |
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| 16:37.15 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 16:41.13 | Araxnid | how can i close a gate with triggers? |
| 16:41.23 | Araxnid | lol i forget my solution :( |
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| 16:44.35 | RodOfNOD | i would assume play the units animation perhaps |
| 16:44.51 | Araxnid | nvm i find my theme with my solution |
| 16:44.53 | Araxnid | xD |
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| 16:48.01 | Araxnid | okay the ability clost\open works, but they dont wanna to close via triggers |
| 16:48.01 | Araxnid | wtf |
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| 16:49.14 | Tordy | >: |
| 16:49.15 | Tordy | >:) |
| 16:49.36 | Araxnid | =((( |
| 16:51.46 | lotharscm | can someone tell me how to transfer kill credit from a modify unit effect? i have tried setting transfer unit/kill unit credit but i cant get it to work |
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| 17:01.16 | mahashiro | hey guys, did blizzard make a restoration type effect? |
| 17:01.31 | mahashiro | I want to make an ability that heals fungal growth |
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| 17:04.02 | Araxnid | is there a nice "broken" projector dod? |
| 17:06.07 | mahashiro | castanar monitor floor? |
| 17:10.18 | SycoPrime | Dear channel, a question. |
| 17:10.26 | SycoPrime | I know nothing about Banks, but I was wondering... |
| 17:10.38 | slightlyrandom | Yes |
| 17:11.13 | slightlyrandom | Maybe; No; Yes; Yes; No; Yes |
| 17:11.14 | SycoPrime | Say you have a variable you store in your bank, we will call it "Bonus". And you have a check at the beginning of the game to see if any of the player's exceed the maximum value for "Bonus", essentially spotting cheaters who have haxed their banks. |
| 17:11.34 | SycoPrime | Would it be possible to then "Blacklist" that player by adding their player name to the banks of the other players? |
| 17:12.25 | SycoPrime | So that you can do a check when the game starts to see if any of the player's in the game are in a blacklist for the other players, and then ban blacklisted players? |
| 17:12.34 | SycoPrime | kick blacklisted players* |
| 17:19.07 | Tordy | WHAT ABOUT BANKS!? |
| 17:19.22 | Tordy | SycoPrime nope, not possible |
| 17:19.48 | Tordy | because you can't retrieve player names and store them to banks |
| 17:19.50 | Tordy | i know it's lame :( |
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| 17:21.16 | Ousnius | hi is there a way to in/decrease the text size? |
| 17:21.24 | slightlyrandom | Text Style |
| 17:21.28 | Ousnius | sth liek the BB code [size] |
| 17:21.37 | slightlyrandom | No |
| 17:21.43 | slightlyrandom | You need to pick a text style |
| 17:21.53 | slightlyrandom | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/3/653/ALL_STYLES_copy.jpg |
| 17:22.11 | Ousnius | yea but it messes up the colors <.< |
| 17:22.19 | slightlyrandom | Pick one thats the right color, then |
| 17:22.36 | Ousnius | oh shi- nice pic xD |
| 17:22.37 | slightlyrandom | Wait, I am lying, I think |
| 17:22.47 | SycoPrime | You can change the style and then the color, I thought. |
| 17:22.53 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 17:23.07 | slightlyrandom | Also, you can change size of text in specific fields in Leaderboards |
| 17:23.24 | SycoPrime | Also, I'm fairly certain I've gotten the game to retrieve player names, albeit haven't so much as tried in months. And I know it's impossible to store strings directly, but I thought there were libraries that made that possible...? |
| 17:23.25 | slightlyrandom | But for dialogs, I'm pretty sure you need to pick size using style |
| 17:23.29 | Ousnius | when I change the style and then the color |
| 17:23.35 | Ousnius | it messes up the color of the first leter |
| 17:23.40 | Ousnius | letter |
| 17:24.43 | Ousnius | whatever the arcadefighter ones seem to be nice |
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| 17:29.33 | Bibendus | noo |
| 17:29.35 | Tordy | BLIZZARD |
| 17:29.39 | Bibendus | holy fuck |
| 17:29.41 | Tordy | guild wars 2 looks good i suppose |
| 17:29.45 | Tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV54pXIdxno |
| 17:29.46 | Bibendus | how can i detect player camera Z? |
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| 17:30.50 | nolliepoper | Hi Zara |
| 17:30.54 | nolliepoper | hows it is? |
| 17:30.55 | Zara | hi |
| 17:31.00 | Zara | fine |
| 17:31.02 | Zara | u? |
| 17:31.11 | nolliepoper | need to get home |
| 17:31.19 | nolliepoper | I been out of town all weekend |
| 17:31.20 | Tordy | omfg |
| 17:31.24 | Bibendus | holy shit i m screwed |
| 17:31.26 | nolliepoper | without my desktop |
| 17:31.32 | Zara | lol |
| 17:31.58 | Tordy | what's an efficient way of checking if there exists a non-distinct value in 2 arrays? |
| 17:31.59 | nolliepoper | why everyone freak outs? |
| 17:32.22 | nolliepoper | what type of array? |
| 17:32.26 | Tordy | an array |
| 17:32.29 | Tordy | just an array man |
| 17:32.36 | nolliepoper | of ints? |
| 17:32.39 | Tordy | yea |
| 17:32.50 | Zara | boolean = for loop |
| 17:32.51 | nolliepoper | they all return 0 |
| 17:32.53 | Tordy | or it could be the other way around |
| 17:33.07 | Tordy | what |
| 17:33.17 | Dustin| | For each array? |
| 17:33.23 | Tordy | yeaaaaaaaaas |
| 17:33.46 | Dustin| | So let me clarify |
| 17:33.48 | nolliepoper | I feel bad for you |
| 17:33.48 | Dustin| | you have two arrays |
| 17:34.01 | Tordy | like {1,2,3,4,5} , {6,7,8,9,10} would return false, but {1,2,3,4,5} , {6,7,8,9,5} would return true |
| 17:34.13 | nolliepoper | o a two diminional array? |
| 17:34.23 | Tordy | or would i ahve to resort to n^2 checking |
| 17:34.26 | Tordy | >:( |
| 17:34.34 | Tordy | nested loop? |
| 17:34.38 | Tordy | cmon |
| 17:34.41 | Tordy | better than that! |
| 17:34.43 | Zara | for int i | for int y |
| 17:34.43 | Dustin| | Im not understanding the question... |
| 17:35.08 | Zara | if value[i] = value[y] -> boolean unique = false -> break |
| 17:35.12 | nolliepoper | loop within a loop |
| 17:35.16 | nolliepoper | works great |
| 17:35.38 | Tordy | i was hoping for a solution better than n*m but oh well |
| 17:35.41 | Zara | no ones knows how to apply an effect when a unit finish it's construction? |
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| 17:35.56 | nolliepoper | use a break statement |
| 17:35.56 | Tordy | go and brush your shoulders off |
| 17:35.57 | Dustin| | Just quick sort the bitch |
| 17:36.02 | Zara | through actors... I don't understand how to apply effects/behaviors |
| 17:36.02 | nolliepoper | as soon as its true |
| 17:36.20 | Tordy | yea i suppose that would be better |
| 17:36.23 | Tordy | quicksort both |
| 17:36.34 | Tordy | and then you only need to do a linear search afterwards |
| 17:36.43 | Ousnius | wait.... |
| 17:36.48 | Tordy | hi Ousnius |
| 17:36.48 | Ousnius | is it Tower Defence oder Defense? |
| 17:36.52 | Ousnius | hi xD |
| 17:36.53 | Tordy | O_O |
| 17:36.55 | Tordy | HI Ousnius |
| 17:37.03 | Tordy | whatever happened to Otixa :/ |
| 17:37.04 | Tordy | i miss him |
| 17:37.24 | Bibendus | he appeared sometimes |
| 17:37.34 | Tordy | his presence has been a lot less lately :( |
| 17:37.35 | Ousnius | Defence or Defense? huuuuh? |
| 17:37.51 | Bibendus | ~seen Otixa |
| 17:37.57 | purl | otixa <~Otixa@cpc3-staf7-2-0-cust220.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 11h 33m 6s ago, saying: 'ekcolnovkol, 0876 5566 554'. |
| 17:37.58 | nolliepoper | I saw him at blizzcon |
| 17:38.02 | Bibendus | new MMO |
| 17:38.07 | Zara | unique = true; |
| 17:38.11 | Bibendus | from what i have heard |
| 17:38.11 | Zara | for (int i = 0; i < arraya.count; ++i) |
| 17:38.13 | Tordy | =o |
| 17:38.17 | Zara | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.21 | Zara | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.25 | Zara | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.29 | Zara | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.34 | Tordy | yea i know about the nested loop algorithm |
| 17:38.38 | Tordy | :] |
| 17:38.55 | Ousnius | DEFENCE OR DEFENSE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! |
| 17:38.56 | Ousnius | XD |
| 17:38.56 | nolliepoper | no need to return unique |
| 17:39.04 | nolliepoper | defense |
| 17:39.09 | Zara | defence -> english GB |
| 17:39.12 | Ousnius | google says both o.O |
| 17:39.15 | Zara | defense -> yankee english |
| 17:39.25 | Ousnius | erm |
| 17:39.32 | Ousnius | and which one houldI use now? oO |
| 17:39.33 | nolliepoper | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.34 | Ousnius | should I* |
| 17:39.49 | Zara | if you are european use GB |
| 17:39.52 | Zara | else yankee |
| 17:39.56 | Ousnius | :P k |
| 17:40.04 | Ousnius | but map will be uplaoded to both US and EU |
| 17:40.05 | Ousnius | XDDD |
| 17:40.08 | Tordy | is it sunday today |
| 17:40.09 | Tordy | oh man |
| 17:40.11 | Ousnius | I'll jsut use Defence |
| 17:40.14 | Zara | so create localization |
| 17:40.14 | Ousnius | it looks cooler |
| 17:40.16 | Ousnius | o.O |
| 17:40.17 | Zara | and change them |
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| 17:40.21 | Dustin| | You guys think I should resurect my Top Down Fighters map? |
| 17:40.28 | Ousnius | which one? |
| 17:40.39 | Zara | QUESTION: is it possible to apply an effect using actors?! |
| 17:40.54 | Tordy | OH BOB SAGOT |
| 17:41.03 | Zara | hahaha tourettes guy |
| 17:41.14 | Bibendus | yes it should be possible |
| 17:41.20 | Zara | how? |
| 17:41.31 | Bibendus | actor events |
| 17:41.35 | Zara | i need my SCV to apply an effect to the unit it's building |
| 17:41.56 | Zara | yeah but what event? |
| 17:42.32 | nolliepoper | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:42.33 | nolliepoper | â² â² |
| 17:42.48 | nolliepoper | =[ |
| 17:44.12 | Bibendus | checking |
| 17:44.45 | Bibendus | mm no |
| 17:44.49 | Bibendus | i suppose u can add effects |
| 17:44.53 | Bibendus | only from other effects |
| 17:44.55 | Bibendus | or behaviors |
| 17:44.58 | Bibendus | so just use them |
| 17:45.17 | Bibendus | add an effect to the build ability |
| 17:45.36 | Zara | there is no effects/behaviors |
| 17:45.39 | Zara | on build ability -_- |
| 17:45.44 | Tordy | OH BOB SAGOT |
| 17:45.54 | Tordy | SAGET* |
| 17:45.55 | Bibendus | the build ability |
| 17:45.59 | Bibendus | mm |
| 17:46.03 | Bibendus | then |
| 17:46.06 | Bibendus | add a behavior |
| 17:46.09 | Bibendus | to the building |
| 17:46.16 | Bibendus | that add an effect while constructing |
| 17:46.59 | Zara | the effect must be casted by builder because it's based on Caster -_- |
| 17:47.04 | Zara | i don't know how |
| 17:47.24 | Bibendus | :O |
| 17:47.32 | Bibendus | trigger way |
| 17:47.32 | Bibendus | :D |
| 17:48.32 | Bibendus | as target |
| 17:48.34 | Zara | i hate triggers -_- |
| 17:48.37 | Bibendus | i can see there is a target called |
| 17:48.39 | Bibendus | ::Creator |
| 17:48.50 | Bibendus | i don't know how to use targets |
| 17:48.53 | Bibendus | in abilities/effects |
| 17:48.59 | Bibendus | i know how to use them only on actor events |
| 17:49.21 | Tordy | BOB SAGET |
| 17:49.37 | Bibendus | goin to eat |
| 17:49.38 | Bibendus | bye |
| 17:50.23 | SycoPrime | Tordy: Pleez no eet bob saget. |
| 17:51.46 | Zara | uuuuuuh |
| 17:51.48 | Zara | let's try |
| 17:51.59 | Zara | OH BOB SAGET |
| 17:52.26 | Zara | makes me LuLz |
| 17:52.28 | Zara | every time |
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| 17:55.01 | SycoPrime | Channel, how do I make Hallucinate autocast? |
| 17:55.57 | nolliepoper | make it an behavior. |
| 17:56.00 | nolliepoper | instead of an ability |
| 17:56.32 | Araxnid | why behavior? |
| 17:56.38 | Araxnid | ability have an autocast field. |
| 18:00.08 | Dustin| | How the hell would you make it a behavior? |
| 18:00.29 | Araxnid | get guys, can you link me some nice gamers radio? |
| 18:00.41 | Dustin| | omfg.fm |
| 18:00.51 | Zara | bibe Creator is not present in KillCredits |
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| 18:06.45 | Ousnius | how to make a custom F12 help screen? |
| 18:06.54 | Ousnius | with your own units? |
| 18:12.15 | Araxnid | how this red sirena dod called? |
| 18:15.48 | Araxnid | how to create simple UI windows with text? |
| 18:15.52 | Araxnid | window" |
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| 18:20.07 | Dustin| | Dialog |
| 18:20.13 | Dustin| | Add a label |
| 18:20.45 | Araxnid | and how to add a text for him? |
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| 18:22.52 | slightlyrandom | Ousnius: Grab Cube TD, I did it |
| 18:23.08 | slightlyrandom | Trigger thing |
| 18:23.27 | Ousnius | k |
| 18:23.39 | Zara | how autocast ability works? |
| 18:23.48 | slightlyrandom | They just... do? |
| 18:24.37 | Zara | ehm |
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| 18:24.57 | Zara | work with validators? |
| 18:25.19 | Creation | is vjeux still managing the site? |
| 18:26.07 | Araxnid | no validators need for autocast |
| 18:26.15 | Araxnid | i mean of course you can add them, if you wanna |
| 18:26.20 | Araxnid | but as i remember there was filters |
| 18:26.41 | Araxnid | just write how much targets must be in ability range, and then she will autocast |
| 18:26.51 | Araxnid | you can look at spider mine |
| 18:27.05 | Araxnid | she unburrows when "1" unit enters the range of ability |
| 18:29.42 | creeperbear | hmm how would i create a behaviour that increases the supply used by a unit, and then stack that behaviour whenever a certain condition is met |
| 18:30.00 | Zara | is it possible to autocast an ability when another is caster |
| 18:30.03 | Zara | casted |
| 18:30.07 | Zara | in the same target? |
| 18:30.19 | Araxnid | create a special validator |
| 18:30.21 | Araxnid | hm.. |
| 18:30.45 | Araxnid | yes, you can add validators. |
| 18:31.07 | Araxnid | so, you wanna that ability will autocast when someone cast at target? |
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| 18:35.31 | creeperbear | like how do you create an effect, and actually define what it does? |
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| 18:41.09 | Zara | yes |
| 18:44.43 | Zara | what is the autocast Acquire level? |
| 18:45.06 | Araxnid | i dont know |
| 18:45.53 | Araxnid | can i somehow lower the light from hero? |
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| 18:56.06 | LordAbyss | hello everyone |
| 18:56.37 | Triceron | Ahoy |
| 18:57.25 | Xaragoth | so Triceron, hows ya cryptlord coming along? |
| 18:57.40 | Triceron | Gonna do more concepting today |
| 18:57.51 | Triceron | I wanna make the face look more like the crypt lord's face |
| 18:58.06 | Triceron | I'll be the starting the model shortly |
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| 19:01.05 | Araxnid | heey people, someone know how i can delete light from unit? |
| 19:01.16 | vjeux | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/8/999/battle.jpg |
| 19:01.22 | Xaragoth | if it's the raynor guy ... 3ds max |
| 19:01.35 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 19:01.39 | Araxnid | nnonon |
| 19:01.40 | Xaragoth | they really steal from us |
| 19:01.40 | Xaragoth | XD |
| 19:01.43 | Araxnid | just standar unit |
| 19:01.49 | Araxnid | standart* |
| 19:02.10 | Araxnid | i create a "dark" map, but looks like every unit have some ... light in the body |
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| 19:12.31 | Ousnius | lol vjeux |
| 19:12.38 | vjeux | :p |
| 19:12.38 | Ousnius | nice pic XD |
| 19:13.05 | Ousnius | why did they take the YT thumbnail? oO |
| 19:14.01 | Ousnius | oh wait no |
| 19:14.04 | Ousnius | it isnt the thumb |
| 19:18.06 | slightlyrandom | Figured it out Ousnius ? |
| 19:18.21 | Ousnius | nope I as busy adding an upgrade |
| 19:18.27 | Ousnius | where do I find a download? |
| 19:18.31 | Ousnius | EU b.net editor DL? |
| 19:18.53 | slightlyrandom | I'd go to sc2mapster.com/maps/cubetd |
| 19:20.03 | Ousnius | k |
| 19:20.07 | Ousnius | what's the triggers name |
| 19:20.19 | slightlyrandom | UI/Help/Something |
| 19:20.21 | slightlyrandom | Something like that |
| 19:21.06 | slightlyrandom | One of the very first ones :P |
| 19:21.12 | Ousnius | Hide default help thing and then add each unit to it? |
| 19:21.18 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 19:21.26 | Ousnius | k |
| 19:21.38 | slightlyrandom | You set their priority in the Data editor |
| 19:21.39 | slightlyrandom | Unit tab |
| 19:22.44 | Ousnius | lol you have the exact same text in a tip as I have in my TD |
| 19:22.53 | slightlyrandom | Awesome! |
| 19:22.53 | Ousnius | "Cube TD is a mazing TD..." |
| 19:22.58 | slightlyrandom | Well, it's true |
| 19:23.09 | slightlyrandom | If you made Shrink TD, I stole shit from you |
| 19:23.17 | Ousnius | a mazing = amazing lol |
| 19:23.20 | slightlyrandom | :D |
| 19:23.46 | slightlyrandom | I made that joke somewhere |
| 19:23.48 | Ousnius | OMFG gtfo stealer! :< |
| 19:23.49 | slightlyrandom | Might be on the website |
| 19:23.51 | Ousnius | jk |
| 19:24.05 | slightlyrandom | I think I stole your system of counting down in dialogs |
| 19:24.11 | Ousnius | ^^ |
| 19:24.16 | slightlyrandom | Stupid periodic solution |
| 19:24.17 | Ousnius | it's Dest1ny's xD |
| 19:24.24 | slightlyrandom | Hated it, but couldn't make a timer work |
| 19:26.53 | FeetLikeHands | right, ive copied the spawn lava behaviour over to a queen unit, but its not spawning anything |
| 19:27.00 | FeetLikeHands | anyone know why? |
| 19:27.37 | Araxnid | ok whata hell |
| 19:27.45 | Araxnid | i create a trigger that created dialog window |
| 19:27.50 | Araxnid | bt nothing creates =\\\ |
| 19:31.25 | FeetLikeHands | "" |
| 19:31.35 | slightlyrandom | Gotta show it, too |
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| 19:42.24 | Dryeyece | Hello guys |
| 19:49.16 | Ousnius | slightyrandom my categories have strange names oO |
| 19:49.28 | Ousnius | UI/HelpText blabla |
| 19:49.32 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 19:49.39 | slightlyrandom | Fix that in the Text Editor |
| 19:49.47 | Ousnius | mhm |
| 19:49.53 | Ousnius | what should I fix? |
| 19:49.59 | Ousnius | in text editor it's right |
| 19:50.01 | Ousnius | data editor too |
| 19:50.21 | slightlyrandom | It's been a while, can't recall what the hell I did |
| 19:50.29 | Ousnius | the text's ID is "RaceTerranTowers" |
| 19:50.34 | Ousnius | the text "Terran" |
| 19:50.42 | Ousnius | it worked like thiss with another string |
| 19:50.46 | Ousnius | but not with the help thing |
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| 20:11.15 | nolliepoper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.16 | nolliepoper_ | â² â² |
| 20:12.43 | wOlfLinG | I now think Psy and Husky are gay :/ |
| 20:12.49 | wOlfLinG | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtPUQ7GeHUo |
| 20:21.37 | Clord | they kinda show signs of thart |
| 20:21.38 | Clord | that |
| 20:21.41 | Clord | but maybe they are just high |
| 20:21.42 | Clord | XD |
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| 20:26.51 | Arthas- | http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/showfull.php?photo=4469 |
| 20:26.52 | Arthas- | O_o |
| 20:28.28 | Clord | I guess they don't want go typical RPG route where there is just few levels of items |
| 20:28.29 | Clord | kinda |
| 20:28.39 | Arthas- | you can find up to radiant, ie lv5 |
| 20:28.41 | Clord | like potion and hi-potion during 30 hours of play time |
| 20:28.46 | Arthas- | so then you need to find 19k gems |
| 20:28.55 | Arthas- | in order to get radiant star if it follows the d2 3x gems :p |
| 20:28.59 | Arthas- | hopefully not :D |
| 20:29.24 | Clord | many RPG games has this..... there is items for healing early game and end game but nothing fitting to between |
| 20:29.26 | Clord | lol |
| 20:29.59 | Demonette | How is the sound named that happen if you put meat into an with hot oil covered pan |
| 20:32.33 | Demonette | XD |
| 20:32.36 | Demonette | no one knows XD |
| 20:32.53 | Jum-Jum | into an what? |
| 20:33.05 | Jum-Jum | you mean the ffzzzzzzz sound? lol |
| 20:34.43 | crazyfingers | Where the fuck are the skull gems?? |
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| 20:34.48 | crazyfingers | those were the best :P |
| 20:36.06 | crazyfingers | i guess gone along with lifetap |
| 20:36.20 | crazyfingers | the defining item attribute in diablo II in my opinion :( |
| 20:36.48 | Demonette | lol why do the end level gems lock the worse? |
| 20:36.57 | crazyfingers | because you're a dude |
| 20:37.03 | crazyfingers | a 13 year old girl would love those |
| 20:37.18 | crazyfingers | which is kinda the point |
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| 20:39.00 | Jum-Jum | because they're bigger! |
| 20:41.03 | Arthas- | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.13 | Arthas- | they wanna make their fanbase become 13yo girls? |
| 20:41.57 | Demonette | lol i know that those star look wrong even to non dudes crazyfingers ;) |
| 20:42.19 | Demonette | reminds me of bad sailor moon ages -.- |
| 20:42.44 | Demonette | the skulls were the ones with real steal =) |
| 20:42.51 | Demonette | style i mean |
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| 20:43.13 | crazyfingers | these new ones look like mexican candy |
| 20:43.17 | crazyfingers | just a bit tacky for sure |
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| 20:44.13 | crazyfingers | Bah, losing interest in map making sure gives more free time to talk shyt about blizzard |
| 20:44.19 | Demonette | well there is a good part about ugly high end gems |
| 20:44.23 | Arthas- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFtypYqiK-o ? |
| 20:44.33 | Arthas- | hmm |
| 20:44.50 | Demonette | I won't fear to waste them into some equipment slots... |
| 20:44.57 | crazyfingers | if i watch in german does it make it less ghey? |
| 20:45.01 | Arthas- | so yeah, im just going to turn that off and go sleep! nn people! |
| 20:45.06 | Arthas- | crazyfingers more gay actually |
| 20:45.19 | crazyfingers | awesome |
| 20:45.25 | Arthas- | I thinnk its spanish you're looking for |
| 20:45.27 | crazyfingers | if we watch this enough we may be able to stomach diablo III |
| 20:45.30 | Arthas- | in order to make it less |
| 20:45.36 | Arthas- | well |
| 20:45.45 | Arthas- | you need some my little pony aswell in order to counter the rainbows |
| 20:45.53 | Tordy | wasssup!!! |
| 20:45.55 | crazyfingers | :D |
| 20:46.04 | Arthas- | carebears is never wrong either |
| 20:46.04 | crazyfingers | sup tord |
| 20:46.11 | Arthas- | oy tord |
| 20:46.16 | Arthas- | ah im off anyway so later :> |
| 20:46.21 | Tordy | :/ |
| 20:47.14 | crazyfingers | so how 'bout them skill ruins |
| 20:47.23 | crazyfingers | those are pretty cool huh? |
| 20:47.31 | Demonette | ? |
| 20:47.48 | crazyfingers | the new diablo III skill ruins, they let you change skills |
| 20:47.58 | crazyfingers | the 1 new thing in diablo III i'm stoked about |
| 20:48.08 | crazyfingers | outside of awesomesauce graphix |
| 20:49.56 | Demonette | Mmmhh |
| 20:50.07 | Demonette | I don't think that changing skills is bad |
| 20:50.40 | Demonette | So you simple can't fuck up your char |
| 20:51.21 | Demonette | I hope there will be an achievement in which you have to beat diablo with bar fists XD |
| 20:53.29 | Jum-Jum | oh you mean runes |
| 20:53.36 | Jum-Jum | ruins is a bad word! :P |
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| 21:06.49 | ducky_ | Hi, can anyone tell me how to extract icons from SC2? |
| 21:09.01 | ducky_ | nvm found it :D |
| 21:09.12 | crazyfingers | :D |
| 21:10.35 | crazyfingers | Everybody pass out talking about diablo III? |
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| 21:16.02 | FeetLikeHands | £3 for 12 months xbl on hmv right now |
| 21:16.16 | FeetLikeHands | search for xbox live 12 months cod |
| 21:16.26 | FeetLikeHands | and u geta free t shirt! |
| 21:16.37 | FeetLikeHands | i think they made a mistake |
| 21:16.49 | Demonette | Good night guys |
| 21:17.17 | crazyfingers | night demonette |
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| 21:20.25 | Clord | 21000 dollar mech for kids... |
| 21:20.28 | Clord | crazy japanese |
| 21:21.20 | rrowland | aye aye aye |
| 21:21.53 | Clord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR-lmtBryl0&feature=player_embedded |
| 21:22.21 | rrowland | how did that cost 21k |
| 21:22.24 | rrowland | its a piece of shit |
| 21:23.01 | crazyfingers | yeah, those kids aren't having 21 k worth of fun |
| 21:26.19 | crazyfingers | yo rrowland you still mapping these days? |
| 21:26.34 | currydevil | the kid isn't even driving it! |
| 21:26.36 | currydevil | lol |
| 21:26.40 | currydevil | remote control ftl |
| 21:27.14 | currydevil | and almost looks like it skates. .. "walking" robot |
| 21:28.22 | ShadowTaisho | hey all |
| 21:28.25 | Tordy | hi |
| 21:29.03 | ShadowTaisho | so what everyone upto? |
| 21:29.17 | Tordy | 3 words: you look pretty |
| 21:29.38 | ShadowTaisho | ok tordy came out of the closet.... |
| 21:29.44 | ShadowTaisho | what about everyone else? |
| 21:29.45 | Tordy | no homo |
| 21:29.58 | crazyfingers | nada, trying to get motivated about mapping again |
| 21:30.08 | crazyfingers | this forum never helps :D |
| 21:30.13 | ShadowTaisho | people often call others homo's to hide their own attraction to men tordy |
| 21:30.29 | ShadowTaisho | and crazy i just am down about mapping... couldn't get footing to copy |
| 21:30.40 | ShadowTaisho | not properly anyways |
| 21:30.55 | crazyfingers | footing to copy? |
| 21:30.58 | ShadowTaisho | yeh |
| 21:31.04 | ShadowTaisho | says how much space a building takes up |
| 21:31.11 | ShadowTaisho | weather u can walk through it |
| 21:31.13 | ShadowTaisho | build ontop of it |
| 21:31.15 | ShadowTaisho | etc... |
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| 21:31.38 | crazyfingers | ahh |
| 21:31.49 | Tordy | how do i look here?: |
| 21:31.49 | Tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC1CUl4XcZc&feature=fvw |
| 21:31.50 | ShadowTaisho | you know how when u place a building it is like a grid? |
| 21:32.08 | ShadowTaisho | and auto alligns? |
| 21:32.17 | crazyfingers | yeah, wish i could help haven't worked with that sugg myself |
| 21:32.19 | ShadowTaisho | when u copy footing it lets u place it anywhere |
| 21:32.26 | crazyfingers | *stuff |
| 21:32.30 | ShadowTaisho | and doesn't allign |
| 21:32.58 | ShadowTaisho | you look overweight |
| 21:33.18 | ShadowTaisho | as another fat person i can say that |
| 21:33.50 | Tordy | here's a better angle of me |
| 21:33.50 | Tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP74xUyYaoo#t=48s |
| 21:35.05 | ShadowTaisho | i thought i was fat |
| 21:35.10 | ShadowTaisho | i feel better about myself now |
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| 21:36.37 | Shawn|Rawr | Braaaaaaaaainnnnsss.. |
| 21:37.27 | ShadowTaisho | *Pulls out clubbing cricket bat* |
| 21:39.07 | Tordy | i cut my hair a while abck |
| 21:39.10 | Tordy | i think it looks good |
| 21:39.12 | Tordy | waht do you think |
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| 21:42.44 | ShadowTaisho | *Starts to beat Shawn with the cricket bat* |
| 21:45.32 | Tordy | hey guys what do you think of this 12 core processor? |
| 21:45.32 | Tordy | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819105264 |
| 21:51.22 | Tordy | this is my life song |
| 21:51.23 | Tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWWsWP9bPAg#t=20s |
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| 21:56.16 | Mephs`zzz | fractalisk 50% done |
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| 21:56.35 | Mephs | total time invested: 1 hr |
| 21:58.03 | Tordy | what fractalisk!? |
| 21:58.35 | Mephs | the uberlisk with ultralisk tentacles that spit raynors that spit acid that spits novas that nuke |
| 21:58.42 | Mephs | now i just need to make the ultralisks spit the raynors! |
| 21:59.27 | C-H | acid can spit? |
| 21:59.34 | Mephs | it can in this map! |
| 21:59.37 | Mephs | :> |
| 21:59.39 | C-H | lol |
| 21:59.47 | Mephs | dude this is 100x more epic than any uberlisk will ever be |
| 22:01.30 | Mephs | ~Tordy |
| 22:01.36 | Mephs | ~Tordy is not torday |
| 22:01.36 | purl | okay, Mephs |
| 22:01.40 | Tordy | rock and roll mcdonalds!! |
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| 22:03.06 | Tordy | this Mephs? |
| 22:03.06 | Tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTMHeQU06IQ |
| 22:03.26 | Mephs | what |
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| 22:27.50 | Coolflip | Yooooooooo |
| 22:28.05 | ShadowTaisho | hi |
| 22:28.42 | Coolflip | Uh |
| 22:28.52 | Coolflip | Where do you change the tint of a unit |
| 22:29.03 | Coolflip | Like i have changed all of the "color" options, but its not doing anything |
| 22:29.51 | ShadowTaisho | no clue sorry |
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| 22:35.30 | slightlyrandom | Actor messages Coolflip |
| 22:35.56 | slightlyrandom | or actor events, really |
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| 22:48.06 | Miccrackens | gwAR |
| 22:48.35 | Miccrackens | Shawn|Rawr |
| 22:48.47 | Miccrackens | Shawn|Rawr |
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| 23:21.03 | kaseano | I have a question, I have this unavoidable error that pops up, is there a way to rescue, like "if error occurs, do this" |
| 23:21.30 | slightlyrandom | Why wouldn't you avoid the error ? |
| 23:21.52 | rrowland | no such thing as an unavoidable error |
| 23:22.02 | kaseano | well I'm trying to get "unit type of inventory item in slot" but if there's nothing in the slot it'll either grab another random item or return an error |
| 23:22.15 | rrowland | check the item count |
| 23:22.21 | rrowland | and/or the slot |
| 23:22.24 | slightlyrandom | Check if there is an item there first, then |
| 23:22.32 | kaseano | how do you do that? :) |
| 23:22.35 | kaseano | been looking for that all day |
| 23:22.51 | kaseano | you can find "the slot number of item" |
| 23:22.52 | rrowland | been a while since i worked with items so I couldn't tell you |
| 23:22.55 | kaseano | doesn't seem to work in reverse tho |
| 23:23.01 | slightlyrandom | Could do number of units in slot ? |
| 23:23.10 | slightlyrandom | Or in group (Units in slot) |
| 23:23.16 | slightlyrandom | No idea, never worked with inventories |
| 23:23.32 | kaseano | there doesn't seem to be a lot of support for it |
| 23:23.36 | kaseano | I duno I guess I could check again |
| 23:23.47 | slightlyrandom | You could do an if |
| 23:24.02 | slightlyrandom | "If unit type of inventory item in slot == null or whatever it spits out |
| 23:24.54 | kaseano | well that's the thing i wish it spit out null |
| 23:25.05 | kaseano | instead it gives me an error or chooses another random item |
| 23:25.14 | kaseano | i dont mind the random item b/c I can then check that item's slot # |
| 23:25.41 | kaseano | but the error popping up looks tacky, even tho it's not causing problems |
| 23:26.06 | kaseano | fun right? :) lo |
| 23:26.08 | kaseano | lol* |
| 23:31.08 | kaseano | ah maybe I can approach it differently, just sucks being unable to do something |
| 23:39.15 | SycoPrime | Like slightlyrandom said, just add a condition. |
| 23:39.25 | SycoPrime | Except "null" in this case translates to Presets -> No Unit. |
| 23:39.51 | kaseano | well it ended up grabbing the next unit |
| 23:39.57 | SycoPrime | Also, error handling, in GE? Don't make me laugh. |
| 23:40.06 | kaseano | found a solution tho :) just gonna run a "get every unit", and checking each unit's slot # |
| 23:40.12 | kaseano | haha |
| 23:40.31 | kaseano | haha just used to actual programming languages |
| 23:40.49 | SycoPrime | GE was definitely never meant to be on that level. |
| 23:40.54 | SycoPrime | It's not a programming language, just a tool. |
| 23:41.11 | SycoPrime | I ran into that same problem. |
| 23:41.27 | SycoPrime | The solution I found was to drink until GE and I were on the same level. |
| 23:41.31 | kaseano | hahaha |
| 23:41.52 | SycoPrime | GE is to programming languages as the ugly chick at the bar. |
| 23:42.10 | kaseano | so youre saying GE doesn't have an adapter for ruby |
| 23:42.12 | rrowland | you fail at comparisons |
| 23:42.32 | SycoPrime | That time, yes. |
| 23:42.39 | SycoPrime | I blame burning eyes and sleep deprivation. |
| 23:42.45 | kaseano | lol |
| 23:42.47 | SycoPrime | I blame the same things for my poor spelling. |
| 23:42.49 | rrowland | im starving |
| 23:43.13 | SycoPrime | We invented ramen as a remedy to that. |
| 23:43.26 | rrowland | im making potstickers |
| 23:43.30 | kaseano | is ramen still classified as food |
| 23:43.33 | rrowland | and brainstorming how my new map is going to work |
| 23:43.39 | SycoPrime | That sounds significantly more delicious. |
| 23:43.53 | rrowland | but not much progress atm |
| 23:43.56 | rrowland | need a full stomache |
| 23:43.58 | rrowland | brain food |
| 23:44.06 | SycoPrime | kaseano: If it wasn't, so many college kids would be in trouble :/ |
| 23:44.12 | SycoPrime | Indeed, rrowland, indeed. |
| 23:44.21 | kaseano | it's more of a sodium supplement |
| 23:44.24 | SycoPrime | So did you ask any questions at the map editing panel? |
| 23:44.31 | rrowland | yes |
| 23:44.38 | rrowland | i assume you know i did |
| 23:44.44 | rrowland | since you asked me specifically |
| 23:44.54 | SycoPrime | I only knew that you were there. |
| 23:45.06 | SycoPrime | I didn't know whether or not you got in line and asked a question. |
| 23:45.11 | rrowland | top news post on sc2mapster atm |
| 23:45.20 | rrowland | you get to see my pretty face |
| 23:45.44 | SycoPrime | buffers. |
| 23:45.49 | SycoPrime | As long as you don't look like Torday. |
| 23:45.51 | SycoPrime | tordy* |
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| 23:46.56 | rrowland | well i dont know what he looks like |
| 23:47.04 | rrowland | but statistically speaking id say i probably dont |
| 23:49.28 | Coolflip | sup rrow, saw you on the question board video |
| 23:49.29 | Coolflip | heh |
| 23:49.47 | rrowland | im watching myself again right now |
| 23:50.00 | rrowland | i figured out what makes my face look gay in it |
| 23:50.02 | rrowland | its my hair |
| 23:50.07 | rrowland | i didnt do it |
| 23:50.07 | rrowland | lol |
| 23:50.29 | rrowland | and my big jew nose |
| 23:50.43 | rrowland | i didnt even pay attention to the guy's answer |
| 23:50.48 | rrowland | but it was a total dodge |
| 23:52.41 | Mephs | fractalisk done. total time: 3hrs |
| 23:53.32 | Shawn|Rawr | Seriously Mephs? Works fully? |
| 23:53.37 | Mephs | :> yah |
| 23:53.39 | Mephs | one sec i'll upload it |
| 23:53.44 | Mephs | wait |
| 23:53.47 | Mephs | gotta add the toasty guy in |
| 23:53.56 | SycoPrime | What the fuck is this bald guy doing on this board of question answerers? |
| 23:54.38 | SycoPrime | They could have put Miss Teen Carolina sitting there, and she would have answered about as effectively. |
| 23:54.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 23:58.11 | Shawn|Rawr | Maybe he's the dodge guy |
| 23:58.23 | Shawn|Rawr | Better at coming up with BS on the spot |
| 23:59.55 | SycoPrime | He seems to be the one answering all of those questions (the dodge ones). |
