| 00:00.11 | Griffith` | AHHH GATEWAY_FIELD |
| 00:00.12 | Griffith` | WHAT |
| 00:00.13 | Griffith` | GODDAMN PORT |
| 00:00.19 | Griffith` | gateway_failed |
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| 00:16.12 | Griffith` | anyone know how to deal with GATEWAY_DOWN? |
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| 00:17.09 | Zara | hi all |
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| 00:26.46 | Rodrigo | I NEED people to help me testing Nexus Censored-Word Wars! Please, add me: rodrigo.881 |
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| 00:37.00 | Rodrigo | I NEED ONE MORE PLAYER to help me testing Nexus Censored-Word Wars! Please, add me: rodrigo.881 |
| 00:37.10 | Rodrigo | one more player for full house. add me now: Rodrigo.881 |
| 00:39.39 | Rodrigo | starting now - full house |
| 00:39.40 | ihatebanelings | Can someone help me? I got a model that has 2 animation sequences call Dialogue 01 and Dialogue 04. When in the actor I got play animation, and in animation properties I have it set to Dialogue. The problem is that it plays both Dialogue 01 and 04 randomly. I don't know what else to set the animation properties to only play Dialogue 04. |
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| 00:50.52 | DarkRevenant | hmm |
| 00:52.01 | Rodrigo | I NEED people to help me testing Nexus Censored-Word Wars! Please, add me: rodrigo.881 |
| 00:58.27 | ihatebanelings | is this NA or EU? |
| 01:01.33 | Rodrigo | NA |
| 01:01.44 | Rodrigo | the map was only banned on NA |
| 01:02.11 | Rodrigo | people on europe weren't offended by the word dyke |
| 01:02.13 | Orcao | EU can handle the Dykes. |
| 01:03.03 | DarkRevenant | wait |
| 01:03.05 | DarkRevenant | you're on NA |
| 01:03.14 | DarkRevenant | well shit |
| 01:03.15 | DarkRevenant | i'll come |
| 01:05.45 | Zara | banned?! |
| 01:05.49 | Orcao | :( do I really have to reset each skills cool down individually after a unit is revived? |
| 01:07.41 | Rodrigo | I NEED people to help me testing Nexus Censored-Word Wars! Please, add me: rodrigo.881 |
| 01:07.55 | Zara | is there anyone that is good in making icons and such? |
| 01:09.14 | Rodrigo | someone can help me testing the new NWW!?!?!?!?!?!? |
| 01:09.19 | Rodrigo | add me now: Rodrigo.881 |
| 01:09.24 | Rodrigo | US |
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| 01:15.23 | Zara | hey guys... does anyone know how to make an electric coil style effect? |
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| 01:25.34 | Skizot | look at your texture, now look at mine back to your texture, now back to mine. sadly your texture isn't mine, but if you stopped using paint to make your textures they could look like mine. look down now back to me where are you, you're in an a game studio. what's that in your hand? I have it, it's a tablet used for drawing things you love, look again the tablet is now DIAMONDS. |
| 01:25.53 | rrowland | i c wut u did thar |
| 01:29.03 | rrowland | replaying my entry since i havent played it in over a month |
| 01:29.05 | rrowland | still awesome |
| 01:29.19 | rrowland | all 3 games that beat it had better be amazing |
| 01:29.41 | rrowland | gonna work on a youtube vid and make sure it still works after all the patches |
| 01:29.45 | rrowland | then im gonna upload to US bnet |
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| 01:47.31 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v ProzaicMuze] by ChanServ |
| 01:48.01 | ProzaicMuze | "Greetings, We'd like to make sure you're aware of the new privacy options we've introduced to Battle.net®. " |
| 01:48.08 | ProzaicMuze | "Friends of Friends enables a player's Real ID friends to see the first and last names of his or her other Real ID friends. This makes it easier for players to locate mutual real-world friends on Battle.net and invite these friends to join their own Real ID friends list." |
| 01:48.19 | ProzaicMuze | Guess I'll never use Real ID ever then |
| 01:48.46 | thenk | yep |
| 01:49.00 | thenk | the least they could do is like an option to 'show real name' or not. |
| 01:49.31 | thenk | oh and what |
| 01:49.39 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, you should have the option to be found by FoF |
| 01:49.43 | thenk | your real id friends can see all your real id friends? |
| 01:49.44 | ProzaicMuze | not let your friend reveal you to whomever they want |
| 01:49.51 | ProzaicMuze | Indeed |
| 01:49.55 | thenk | G A Y |
| 01:50.03 | thenk | time to remove real id |
| 01:50.18 | thenk | and/or add craploads of people |
| 01:50.22 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 01:51.20 | rrowland | cry more |
| 01:51.30 | rrowland | i havent been assassinated yet and im a huge dick |
| 01:51.41 | rrowland | and ive given out my real name and address and shit |
| 01:51.49 | ProzaicMuze | I'll come kill you if you'd like |
| 01:51.59 | rrowland | no you wouldnt |
| 01:52.16 | rrowland | you dont have the cajones |
| 01:52.21 | thenk | oh i see |
| 01:52.26 | thenk | right click on them and 'view friends' |
| 01:52.30 | thenk | lists their friends |
| 01:53.21 | ProzaicMuze | I have cajones of steel |
| 01:53.25 | ProzaicMuze | because I remove them myself |
| 01:53.28 | ProzaicMuze | they made me weak |
| 01:53.31 | ProzaicMuze | and now I am strong |
| 01:53.38 | rrowland | what the hell |
| 01:53.41 | rrowland | i dont even |
| 01:54.37 | crazyfingers | reminds me of this prozaic |
| 01:54.39 | crazyfingers | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3KdcTgrno |
| 01:54.43 | crazyfingers | haha |
| 01:54.58 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 01:56.03 | rrowland | Alright guys |
| 01:56.20 | rrowland | If you want to see my failure loser piece of shit entry it's on bnet now |
| 01:56.25 | rrowland | It's called "Bovine Intervention" |
| 01:56.38 | crazyfingers | hehe, cool, i'll do that |
| 01:56.43 | crazyfingers | US server? |
| 01:56.45 | rrowland | on US of course |
| 01:56.46 | rrowland | yeah |
| 01:56.50 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 01:56.58 | ProzaicMuze | I'm so gonna trash your game |
| 01:56.59 | ProzaicMuze | win! |
| 01:57.03 | rrowland | shrug |
| 01:57.08 | rrowland | blizz already trashed it enough |
| 01:57.13 | rrowland | good luck topping that |
| 01:57.33 | ProzaicMuze | lol, they gave you feedback on it? |
| 01:57.53 | crazyfingers | yeah, i'm very curious to see the kind of maps that one |
| 01:57.54 | rrowland | their feedback was "you didn't beat 3 other pieces of shit that were submitted" |
| 01:58.01 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 01:58.03 | rrowland | so obviously it sucks |
| 01:58.17 | crazyfingers | and if anyone wants to help bump up cosmic eclipse it just went public the other day, on like page 8 haha |
| 01:58.54 | crazyfingers | haha, are you shitting me rrowland? |
| 01:58.56 | crazyfingers | they said that? |
| 02:00.24 | Saeris1 | i'm on a roll with these |
| 02:00.43 | Saeris1 | here's another legacy map i'm converting: http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/8/577/Tiwsted_Fate_SC1.jpg |
| 02:00.44 | Saeris1 | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/8/578/Twisted-Fate-SC2.png |
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| 02:01.47 | Technomancer | I made a blue nuke XD |
| 02:01.47 | rrowland | the bnet lag makes it really really hard to play |
| 02:01.49 | rrowland | =/ |
| 02:07.11 | rrowland | if anything made it lose its probably that |
| 02:07.19 | rrowland | which is out of my control really |
| 02:08.11 | SycoPrime | Okay...so I can't post my video on youtube because it contains a copywrited song, and they have some sort of douchey autodetection algorithm for it, so I can't even have it on there for a few hours before getting banned. |
| 02:08.23 | SycoPrime | Anyone have any suggestions? |
| 02:08.31 | rrowland | audioswap it |
| 02:08.58 | SycoPrime | I'd rather not just put in a different song, since I edited the attached song to use the parts that fit the video. |
| 02:09.36 | crazyfingers | i think there's a way you can sync 2 videos together |
| 02:09.41 | crazyfingers | so the audio from one plays over another |
| 02:09.44 | crazyfingers | just use that link |
| 02:09.55 | rrowland | has anyone found my map on US? |
| 02:10.01 | rrowland | I don't see it unless I search for it |
| 02:10.02 | crazyfingers | i tried couldn't find it |
| 02:10.07 | crazyfingers | about to play nexus word wars |
| 02:10.11 | crazyfingers | gonna try to find it again after that |
| 02:10.16 | rrowland | I hate you 10 million right now |
| 02:10.34 | crazyfingers | ?? |
| 02:11.20 | rrowland | It's single player so you can create a game for it, just type in bovine |
| 02:11.31 | rrowland | I hate you cause you're playing a nexus wars / word wars game |
| 02:12.38 | crazyfingers | :D |
| 02:12.51 | rrowland | Do maps still have to be unlocked to be on the list? |
| 02:13.41 | rrowland | I may have accidentally uploaded as private |
| 02:13.46 | rrowland | It's been a long time =/ |
| 02:14.17 | Technomancer | uh Nexus Word Wars was sweet dude |
| 02:14.20 | Technomancer | why u hatin |
| 02:14.24 | Technomancer | haters r ghey |
| 02:14.28 | Technomancer | dont be ghey |
| 02:14.32 | rrowland | who are you talking to |
| 02:14.35 | rrowland | can't be talking to me |
| 02:14.39 | Technomancer | u ghey boi |
| 02:14.48 | rrowland | I don't speak retarded ass monkey |
| 02:14.50 | rrowland | Sorry |
| 02:15.20 | Technomancer | I'm not an ass monkey, i'm a tit mouse ;D |
| 02:15.58 | rrowland | Okay I uploaded it as public |
| 02:16.02 | rrowland | Oopsie daisies |
| 02:17.02 | Technomancer | when you attach the song, change the information on the song, I think the youtube bots have a way or seeing the artist/title/etc |
| 02:17.10 | Mephs | it checks the ID3 tags |
| 02:17.26 | SycoPrime | Oh. |
| 02:19.03 | SycoPrime | Hmm, I'm not 100% sure how to edit the ID3 tags. |
| 02:19.11 | Technomancer | I'm about to crap my pants but I don't wanna stop watching HD Starcraft, quick what do I do? |
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| 02:20.31 | Technomancer | too late :( |
| 02:23.15 | Orcao | rrowland |
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| 02:23.24 | Orcao | The lava level is almost impossible with all the bnet lag :/ |
| 02:23.40 | rrowland | Yeah, I'm impressed you even got there |
| 02:23.41 | Orcao | Half of my jumps arent getting recognized so I keep on just walking into lava |
| 02:23.41 | rrowland | With the bnet lag |
| 02:23.47 | Orcao | Oh I have an amazing strat |
| 02:23.50 | Orcao | Forward+spam grenade. |
| 02:23.53 | rrowland | lol |
| 02:23.55 | Orcao | It kills everything. |
| 02:24.08 | rrowland | What difficulty? |
| 02:24.10 | kaseano | do you have to use variables for points if you use waits in your triggers like in war3? |
| 02:24.11 | Orcao | Sure you take some damage, and its not going to get you a high score |
| 02:24.17 | Orcao | The fact that its on sissy helps too =P |
| 02:24.22 | rrowland | ah lol |
| 02:24.24 | kaseano | cus the trigger might be run twice and lose the original "target point" |
| 02:24.35 | rrowland | Yeah I tried to make it so even the worst players could beat sissy |
| 02:24.42 | rrowland | Then average gamer for mild |
| 02:24.47 | rrowland | Then a lot harder for beefy |
| 02:24.55 | Orcao | I wouldnt want to try it on any difficulty with bnet lag :/ |
| 02:25.06 | rrowland | I got pretty close, if you play it locally |
| 02:25.12 | rrowland | Bnet lag is pretty brutal though |
| 02:25.22 | Orcao | Hopefully when they fix that (when that will happen, who knows) it will be funner |
| 02:26.58 | rrowland | Maybe I'll just upload it to sc2mapster |
| 02:27.12 | rrowland | It's single player so no reason to have to endure bnet lag |
| 02:27.27 | Orcao | Eh the input delay was noticable on Lost Valkyrie too :/ |
| 02:27.39 | Orcao | (The shmup in the campaign, if youve never done campaign) |
| 02:27.44 | Orcao | Lost Viking* |
| 02:27.56 | Orcao | Wait... are they valks or vikings.. ones a SC1 unit, the others a SC2 unit |
| 02:27.58 | Orcao | I always mix them up |
| 02:28.05 | rrowland | Huh? Lost viking wasn't laggy |
| 02:28.08 | rrowland | It was single player |
| 02:28.18 | Orcao | the controls are pretty clunky :/ |
| 02:28.21 | rrowland | I tested my map single player a bunch so I know it's not laggy locally |
| 02:29.03 | rrowland | You know, they encouraged WASD games |
| 02:29.11 | rrowland | In their post for contest entries |
| 02:29.27 | rrowland | I'll bet none of the winners were WASD games, they can't be |
| 02:29.32 | rrowland | They lag too much |
| 02:33.21 | crazyfingers | mine's wasd |
| 02:33.24 | crazyfingers | doesn't lag too bad |
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| 02:33.36 | crazyfingers | give it a go if you don't believe me |
| 02:33.42 | crazyfingers | called cosmic eclipes |
| 02:34.20 | crazyfingers | the reason it doesn't feel as laggy is because i put momentum in the movement, so you start turning slow and build up over time, so a slight delay is more natural |
| 02:34.42 | RodOfNOD | hmm finding a really weird discrepency can someone please confirm what im seeing.. Facing angle onthe EvolutionChamber isnt what the xml file says it should be editor says 240 but the xml says 330?>? |
| 02:38.06 | SycoPrime | I played crazyfingers' map, and I can vouch that it doesn't feel laggy with 4 players online. |
| 02:41.26 | SycoPrime | So, 88, 90, and 89%, and the upload/publish keeps failing because "Gateway_down". Suggestions? |
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| 02:54.33 | SycoPrime | What was the map contest winner? Photon Cannon D? |
| 02:54.36 | SycoPrime | Or Pylon D? |
| 02:54.45 | mike9055 | Ralph D |
| 02:55.06 | mike9055 | aka cats versus bats |
| 02:55.21 | progammer | winner is dyke defender |
| 02:55.29 | progammer | that's why they remove the map with word dyke |
| 02:56.22 | SycoPrime | Uh huh |
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| 02:57.48 | [newbie] | hello every one |
| 02:58.44 | vailreth | is there a problem with the site i cant access it |
| 02:59.35 | Orcao | I can get to it fine |
| 03:00.46 | vailreth | thats good but i cant and i have no idea why |
| 03:01.30 | vailreth | would a router have any thing to do with why i cant access it ? |
| 03:02.15 | progammer | vailreth: try to reset your cache or dns |
| 03:03.20 | vailreth | how do you reset your dns? |
| 03:03.58 | mike9055 | first you create a trigger |
| 03:07.12 | mike9055 | ready for step 2? |
| 03:08.02 | vailreth | ? |
| 03:11.38 | vailreth | strange sc2mapster is teh only website i know of i cant access it says it cant be found |
| 03:19.33 | Saeris1 | programmer |
| 03:19.44 | progammer | wrong again |
| 03:19.58 | RodOfNOD | vailreth its hiding |
| 03:20.04 | Saeris1 | i wanna make a map now, with rising water and a dike, and you need to use workers to pile up sand bags to keep the city from flooding |
| 03:20.19 | Saeris1 | and call it dike defender |
| 03:20.21 | RodOfNOD | yes but thats spelled DIKE not DYKE |
| 03:20.28 | progammer | you know water cant be that dynamic |
| 03:20.31 | vailreth | hmm |
| 03:20.42 | Saeris1 | yea it can... it's kinda simple, actually |
| 03:20.43 | vailreth | later all im heading into the game |
| 03:20.47 | progammer | vailreth: does it show a puppy to you ? |
| 03:20.53 | RodOfNOD | u could make ur own water model progammer |
| 03:20.57 | vailreth | a puppy? |
| 03:21.19 | progammer | yeah that's when mapster change the server we have a puppy to kill time |
| 03:21.33 | Saeris1 | what you do is you have a sloped terrain, displacements actually. you have water on one side of the dike and another type on the other side for the "flood" |
| 03:21.53 | vailreth | no no puppy firefox says the sever is taking to long to respond |
| 03:22.02 | Saeris1 | and the water on one side raises a bit every few secs, and bringing sandbags to a region slows down that rate |
| 03:22.05 | vailreth | chrome says it cant find the server at all |
| 03:22.18 | Saeris1 | if it goes over, water on the other side goes up to flood |
| 03:22.21 | Saeris1 | and you lose |
| 03:22.43 | Saeris1 | i mean it could look a little crappy, sure |
| 03:22.47 | Orcao | "SHARKLISKS ARE TRYING TO DESTROY THE DIKE; DEFEND IT" <-- fallback plan |
| 03:22.48 | Saeris1 | but it would work =P |
| 03:22.53 | RodOfNOD | sites working for me |
| 03:23.08 | vailreth | yay. |
| 03:23.21 | vailreth | it stopped working when i added my wireless router |
| 03:23.24 | Saeris1 | i might actually work on a map like that tonight |
| 03:23.25 | Saeris1 | lol |
| 03:25.03 | Saeris1 | now the hard part |
| 03:25.16 | Saeris1 | would be making little sand bags for scv's to carry |
| 03:25.48 | Saeris1 | and you would make CC's and supply depots sandbag desposites |
| 03:25.51 | RodOfNOD | they have the model already |
| 03:26.08 | Saeris1 | and the dikes would be where you turn in resources |
| 03:26.21 | Saeris1 | this map needs more ideas |
| 03:26.24 | Saeris1 | i demand it |
| 03:26.26 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 03:26.37 | RodOfNOD | well ur scv cound be a woman |
| 03:26.44 | RodOfNOD | say the civilian one |
| 03:26.55 | Saeris1 | lol.... |
| 03:26.57 | RodOfNOD | and she could also grow a beard over time |
| 03:27.23 | RodOfNOD | but she would be real strong and be able to lift lots of sandbags |
| 03:27.32 | Saeris1 | i think i would have a speed upgrade |
| 03:27.34 | Saeris1 | wooden shoes |
| 03:27.38 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 03:27.44 | RodOfNOD | that might be a slow |
| 03:27.47 | RodOfNOD | not upgrade |
| 03:27.48 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 03:27.56 | Saeris1 | or |
| 03:27.58 | Saeris1 | even better |
| 03:28.04 | Saeris1 | it lets you walk on water |
| 03:28.07 | Saeris1 | cuz they float =P |
| 03:28.11 | RodOfNOD | true |
| 03:28.16 | RodOfNOD | have to be some big ass shoes though |
| 03:28.22 | RodOfNOD | ooh |
| 03:28.38 | RodOfNOD | then u could go across existing water to get to the BIG bags ie the high yield mins |
| 03:28.46 | Saeris1 | yea |
| 03:28.48 | Saeris1 | lol |
| 03:29.25 | RodOfNOD | then we could put it on sc2mapster and askpeople to play it in a group message to blizzard |
| 03:29.28 | Saeris1 | and you could use a barge to evacuate civs |
| 03:29.47 | Saeris1 | or save drowning ones |
| 03:29.53 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 03:30.06 | RodOfNOD | i expect it to be done by tomorrow - noonish |
| 03:30.09 | Saeris1 | this is shaping up to be a great game |
| 03:30.53 | Saeris1 | where is otixa when you need him |
| 03:31.05 | Saeris1 | the sandbag models in sc2 aren't good enough |
| 03:31.06 | Saeris1 | for this |
| 03:31.11 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:31.38 | Saeris1 | so |
| 03:31.45 | Saeris1 | this is gonna be a micromanagement game |
| 03:32.00 | Saeris1 | you've gotta make a bunch of scv's to carry sandbags to keep the city from flooding |
| 03:32.08 | Saeris1 | and you needa go and save civs that are drowning |
| 03:32.14 | Saeris1 | and patch holes in the dike |
| 03:32.57 | Saeris1 | actually |
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| 03:33.21 | Saeris1 | Dyke is the proper term for this |
| 03:33.27 | Saeris1 | it's another name for levee |
| 03:33.30 | Saeris1 | i thought it was dike |
| 03:33.46 | Saeris1 | well actually they are interchangeable |
| 03:34.46 | RodOfNOD | noun Slang: Disparaging and Offensive . |
| 03:34.46 | RodOfNOD | a female homosexual; lesbian. |
| 03:35.28 | Saeris1 | yes, and that's the slang term |
| 03:35.36 | Saeris1 | whereas this map is using the literal meaning |
| 03:35.42 | RodOfNOD | it would be hard to argue that dyke was not offensive |
| 03:35.58 | RodOfNOD | however itwould be easy to argue that dike used the way u would be using it isnt offensive |
| 03:36.10 | Saeris1 | but easy to argue that that wasn't the intended use of the word for this map |
| 03:36.25 | RodOfNOD | yes but the last thing u want is bliz to just ban it |
| 03:36.34 | RodOfNOD | what u want is forthem to want to ban it but not be able to |
| 03:37.24 | Saeris1 | lol.... |
| 03:37.27 | Saeris1 | actually |
| 03:37.32 | Saeris1 | all the civs you have to save |
| 03:37.33 | Saeris1 | are women |
| 03:37.44 | Saeris1 | thus you're defending dykes |
| 03:37.45 | Saeris1 | =P |
| 03:37.53 | Saeris1 | using a dike |
| 03:38.02 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:38.07 | RodOfNOD | well they might be lesbians |
| 03:38.10 | Vail | ok looked at the router and it doesnt seem to be the issue so any ideas? |
| 03:38.12 | RodOfNOD | but they cant be called dykes |
| 03:38.22 | RodOfNOD | however if u can make a map where lesbian is banned |
| 03:38.25 | RodOfNOD | THAT would make news |
| 03:38.26 | Saeris1 | you don't even have to call them anything |
| 03:38.37 | RodOfNOD | and it might make REAL news |
| 03:38.38 | Saeris1 | you can just have all the civs on the map be female |
| 03:38.55 | RodOfNOD | turn it on and off vail |
| 03:39.02 | RodOfNOD | assuming u have been able to access in the past |
| 03:40.15 | Vail | has the site moved servers i recall having to add a line or two a file in windows to allow the webpage to show up |
| 03:40.27 | RodOfNOD | if i was gay and politically active i would make a map that pushed the edge on being gay |
| 03:40.30 | RodOfNOD | then see what bliz did |
| 03:40.55 | SuraklinSC2 | looks at Vail. |
| 03:41.14 | SuraklinSC2 | You edited your hosts file without knowing what it does? ^^ |
| 03:41.33 | Vail | no i edited it and forgot the name |
| 03:43.57 | Saeris1 | i think it would be really interesting to see how blizzard PR handles that aswell |
| 03:44.07 | Saeris1 | but i don't hate them, i just wanna poke them with a stick |
| 03:44.36 | rrowland | dykes? |
| 03:44.54 | rrowland | I don't think they like being poked with sticks |
| 03:44.57 | rrowland | That's kind of the point |
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| 03:45.10 | SuraklinSC2 | Vail: \WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc |
| 03:45.20 | dOofuS | Random question. |
| 03:45.32 | SuraklinSC2 | open the hosts file in there and get rid of what you have defined for sc2mapster and see if that works. |
| 03:45.37 | Vail | i know where the file is i was wondering if i need to change it ... again |
| 03:45.39 | Vail | ah ok |
| 03:45.55 | RodOfNOD | rrowland that was hilarious |
| 03:45.58 | dOofuS | Is it possible to have WASD type movement on a unit for one player, and allow free control of the turret of that unit to another player? (eg. Allow one player to drive a tank, and another to aim/fire the gun) |
| 03:46.25 | RodOfNOD | via dialogs and triggers anything is possible dOofuS |
| 03:48.03 | dOofuS | ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE? |
| 03:48.14 | dOofuS | I'm going to go play Rainbow Unicorn Attack and chase my dreams again. |
| 03:48.24 | dOofuS | Errr, Robot Unicorn Attack, fail. |
| 03:48.31 | Saeris1 | hey rod, i've been working on a third map =P though this one isn't trying to be just like the original |
| 03:48.41 | Saeris1 | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/8/577/Tiwsted_Fate_SC1.jpg |
| 03:48.42 | Saeris1 | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/8/580/Twisted-Fate-SC2.png |
| 03:49.26 | RodOfNOD | i really like that one |
| 03:49.58 | Saeris1 | i'm not nearly done yet |
| 03:50.04 | RodOfNOD | gold mins top right bottom left maye? |
| 03:50.08 | Saeris1 | i suck at texturing with the mar sara tileset for some reason |
| 03:50.14 | Saeris1 | naw... too close |
| 03:50.25 | RodOfNOD | u could actually redo the textures u know |
| 03:50.27 | Saeris1 | analyzer says those are the natural expans |
| 03:50.29 | RodOfNOD | as in photoshop |
| 03:50.37 | Saeris1 | meh |
| 03:50.37 | Saeris1 | no |
| 03:50.40 | Saeris1 | too much work |
| 03:50.44 | RodOfNOD | ok then top left bottom right |
| 03:50.50 | RodOfNOD | take me like 5 minutes |
| 03:51.08 | RodOfNOD | changing texture color is simple |
| 03:51.23 | Saeris1 | well it's not the color |
| 03:51.35 | Saeris1 | i do my texturing in a very geographical sense |
| 03:51.42 | Saeris1 | and i don't have much a desert sense yet |
| 03:51.47 | Saeris1 | so, i'm working on it |
| 03:52.04 | Saeris1 | i'm too used to the haven and bel'shir tilesets |
| 03:52.35 | Saeris1 | i might swap some textures out. but really i should just learn where to put what |
| 03:52.40 | Saeris1 | i'll have to look at the blizz maps |
| 03:52.41 | Saeris1 | for ideas |
| 03:53.35 | Saeris1 | if anything the middle expans might be good to have gold minerals |
| 03:56.27 | Saeris1 | funny thing about all these maps tho |
| 03:56.35 | Saeris1 | is i can do them in just about 24 hours |
| 03:56.38 | Saeris1 | lol... |
| 03:57.10 | RodOfNOD | well i found that while i made my mapin 24 hours |
| 03:57.16 | RodOfNOD | it took 3 days to make it really good |
| 03:57.38 | RodOfNOD | its all about the doodads once u have a good basic map |
| 03:58.07 | Saeris1 | for this and highland, yea |
| 03:58.20 | Saeris1 | ashrigo looked fine without a ton of doodads |
| 03:58.44 | Saeris1 | and it probably benefits from that too, given how cramped it is |
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| 04:43.59 | Rodrigo | I just made a 5-seconds map where you get 100% desync replays |
| 04:44.04 | Rodrigo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/13586-desync-replays-werent-fixed/ |
| 04:53.50 | FahqueL | anyone know how i can make a actor/model automatically take the same scale as a search area effect? |
| 04:54.10 | FahqueL | without using .cursor for the triggering event? |
| 04:54.51 | TheGrandWinner | wtf |
| 04:54.54 | TheGrandWinner | your map got pulled RodOfNOD? |
| 04:54.55 | TheGrandWinner | err |
| 04:54.57 | TheGrandWinner | Rodrigo |
| 04:55.35 | Twiner | wtf |
| 04:55.44 | Twiner | this nickname was never registered before... |
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| 05:00.53 | IDEATH | HI!!!!!!! |
| 05:02.15 | IDEATH | r u serious? |
| 05:02.24 | IDEATH | NO ONE is here? |
| 05:03.21 | IDEATH | Who wants the rest of my ice cream? |
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| 05:08.09 | Skizot | SOMEONE REMAKE CONTINENTAL DIVIDE. |
| 05:08.11 | Skizot | NOW. |
| 05:09.33 | LordAbyss | someone remake nexus word wars! |
| 05:09.41 | LordAbyss | ;) |
| 05:09.48 | Skizot | rodrigo already did |
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| 05:20.29 | Twiner | omg |
| 05:20.33 | Twiner | I just figured out my dynamic pathing system |
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| 05:59.49 | Skizot | max 2009 |
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| 06:04.58 | ZarafFaraz | sup guys |
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| 06:20.22 | Araxnid | i heard about blizzard isk against some hackers |
| 06:20.46 | Twiner | blah |
| 06:20.58 | Twiner | I seem to fail at issue order |
| 06:25.45 | Mephs | raise your hand if you love donna summers |
| 06:26.05 | Twiner | who |
| 06:26.18 | Mephs | what the fuck |
| 06:26.21 | Mephs | is wrong with you |
| 06:30.40 | currydevil | pipes are fun. |
| 06:40.24 | Twiner | who is it? |
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| 07:06.14 | allenmelon | im bored |
| 07:07.58 | Rodrigo | http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10058106 |
| 07:08.14 | Rodrigo | good times before the ban |
| 07:08.51 | Twiner | still haven't heard back? |
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| 07:09.28 | Rodrigo | no emails from blizzard yet |
| 07:09.41 | Twiner | :/ |
| 07:09.54 | Twiner | the whole map system has a lot of issues |
| 07:10.13 | Twiner | I wouldn't even be able to create explicit maps for private usage |
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| 07:15.47 | allenmelon | so dota 2 is officially being made for sc2? |
| 07:15.54 | Twiner | no |
| 07:16.02 | Twiner | I thought valve was making it as a game |
| 07:16.10 | allenmelon | o |
| 07:16.14 | Twiner | to release on steam |
| 07:16.16 | allenmelon | so its not part of blizz then? |
| 07:16.20 | Twiner | nope |
| 07:16.24 | Twiner | it makes me happy |
| 07:16.29 | allenmelon | free?? |
| 07:16.30 | Twiner | it wont be forced into my face |
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| 07:29.33 | Demalii | hello silene |
| 07:29.34 | Demalii | silence* |
| 07:30.33 | Rodrigo | is watching an old 1 hour game of Nexus Censored-Word Wars (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10058106) |
| 07:30.51 | Rodrigo | (made by iccup, I believe) |
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| 07:41.42 | Demalii | lordabyss wut up nigga |
| 07:53.29 | Twiner | can you privately play unpublished maps? |
| 07:56.03 | SycoPrime | You can privately play privately published maps. |
| 07:59.47 | Rodrigo | SycoPrime, I believe there's a software that allows you to play unpublished maps privately |
| 08:00.02 | SuraklinSC2 | Kinda. |
| 08:00.13 | SuraklinSC2 | Doesn't it just replace one of the normal maps with your map? |
| 08:00.20 | Rodrigo | dunno |
| 08:00.21 | SuraklinSC2 | ...and everyone that wants to play on it has to do the same thing? |
| 08:00.32 | Rodrigo | yeah, everyone has to do the same thing |
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| 08:12.15 | FahqueL | can you get the location of an effect from triggers? |
| 08:19.03 | SycoPrime | Oh, I thought that software didn't work since beta. Guess it might. |
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| 08:27.13 | LordAbyss | sixen made sweet sweet love to prozaicmuze |
| 08:30.41 | Sixen | sup |
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| 08:30.59 | Rodrigo | New glitch: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/13634-new-patch-new-glitch/ |
| 08:31.05 | Skizot | yo sixen :) |
| 08:31.49 | Sixen | sups |
| 08:38.40 | allenmelon | oh hi |
| 08:38.42 | allenmelon | ppls |
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| 09:01.54 | Rodrigo | anyone wants to check out the new Nexus Censored-Word Wars? |
| 09:02.39 | Sixen | lol. You changed the name :X |
| 09:02.51 | Rodrigo | just for the private testings |
| 09:03.13 | Rodrigo | that would be cool to keep this name, but I'd rather keep Nexus Word Wars |
| 09:03.35 | Rodrigo | anyway, since NWW is banned, I can only play the Nexus Censored-Word Wars |
| 09:10.15 | Demalii | sixen, find out more info on the topic of blizzard allowed premium maps |
| 09:10.33 | Sixen | what about 'em dema? |
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| 09:10.55 | Demalii | is this going to go through, or are they currently testing the idea through featured maps and popularity? |
| 09:11.09 | Sixen | It's pla nned a year after release |
| 09:11.11 | Sixen | so this upcoming july |
| 09:11.15 | Demalii | ok |
| 09:11.19 | Demalii | thanks |
| 09:11.46 | Sixen | =\ |
| 09:11.53 | Sixen | = |
| 09:11.56 | Sixen | Jesus. I cna't type. |
| 09:12.02 | Demalii | lol |
| 09:12.07 | Demalii | proven =/ |
| 09:12.31 | Demalii | ;p; always comes up in my text.. i mean lol damnit |
| 09:13.34 | Demalii | http://www.virtual-reality-glasses.com/trackir-3-pro-head-tracker.html |
| 09:14.49 | Rodrigo | I thought I was playing too much with 3000 custom games played |
| 09:14.54 | Fisker | hey Sixen |
| 09:14.56 | Rodrigo | but look at this guy: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1983559/1/Whiskee/ |
| 09:14.57 | Fisker | you should be sleeping |
| 09:14.58 | Rodrigo | O.o |
| 09:15.09 | Demalii | wtf |
| 09:15.12 | Demalii | talk about a quitter |
| 09:15.58 | Rodrigo | 5,600 games played is undoubtedly a booster |
| 09:16.06 | Demalii | i agree |
| 09:16.12 | Demalii | that's rediculous |
| 09:16.36 | Rodrigo | I've quit maps after 2 minutes (for testing purposes) since the first day of starcraft |
| 09:16.40 | Demalii | rod, you repubbed word wars? |
| 09:16.41 | Rodrigo | and I have only 3000 games played |
| 09:16.55 | Demalii | yea |
| 09:17.00 | Demalii | 3k is high also |
| 09:17.01 | Demalii | lol |
| 09:17.05 | Demalii | nearly 6k psh |
| 09:17.22 | Demalii | no rewards for custom games played =p |
| 09:17.26 | Rodrigo | 4 months of starcraft, 6k games |
| 09:17.29 | Rodrigo | count |
| 09:17.35 | Demalii | well |
| 09:17.42 | Rodrigo | more than 1000 games per month |
| 09:17.50 | Demalii | if it's a kid out of school, doesn't work, his parents pay for his shiz |
| 09:18.01 | Demalii | maybe he plays all night and day, maybe with 1 hand also |
| 09:18.14 | Rodrigo | more than 33 games a day non-stop |
| 09:18.21 | Demalii | rediculous |
| 09:18.33 | Demalii | anyone here play HoN? |
| 09:18.58 | Rodrigo | well, one thing is true. The day blizzard bans players for boosting their maps, I quit starcraft |
| 09:19.09 | Demalii | i doubt that will happen |
| 09:19.19 | Demalii | they did it to themselves |
| 09:19.24 | Demalii | creating that failure of a pop system |
| 09:19.36 | Rodrigo | after having a map banned due to "dyke" on a dictionary, I don't doubt anything |
| 09:19.49 | Demalii | well it did only give that as the example |
| 09:19.57 | Demalii | but I still understand |
| 09:20.09 | Demalii | what happened to online gameplay unrated? |
| 09:20.12 | Demalii | I mean.. seriously |
| 09:20.34 | Rodrigo | an example is not enough to get my map unbanned |
| 09:20.36 | Demalii | and blizz did put some dialog in the campaign themselves |
| 09:21.02 | Demalii | I'm a bit.. dislodged by what they did to you |
| 09:21.04 | Rodrigo | by the way, who was offended by a dictionary? |
| 09:21.11 | Demalii | I mean.. personally.. typing isn't my kind of gameplay, but |
| 09:21.20 | Demalii | ahh |
| 09:21.25 | Rodrigo | I dont even read the words. The pressure of the game is so intense that I can only type as fast as I can |
| 09:21.43 | Demalii | I've loved bliz for over 12 years |
| 09:21.52 | Demalii | if they push too hard, it'd be quite sad to see |
| 09:21.54 | Rodrigo | I played games that I was the turtle (slowest player) with 400 words typed |
| 09:22.02 | Rodrigo | 400 words typed in a 10 min game!! |
| 09:22.12 | Rodrigo | how the hell can you be offended |
| 09:22.13 | Demalii | yea |
| 09:22.16 | Demalii | lol |
| 09:22.16 | Rodrigo | with 1 single word |
| 09:22.25 | Demalii | someone was being a fuck |
| 09:22.27 | Demalii | basically |
| 09:22.37 | Rodrigo | I bet it was like |
| 09:22.45 | Demalii | a homaphrodite.. |
| 09:22.55 | Rodrigo | "My fucking son is fucking say shitty words and the damn time because of this stupid Nexus Word Wars" |
| 09:23.00 | Demalii | who doesn't have the guts to even kill itself |
| 09:23.04 | Rodrigo | saying* |
| 09:23.10 | Rodrigo | all* |
| 09:23.11 | Demalii | all* |
| 09:23.12 | Demalii | lol |
| 09:23.15 | Demalii | you know rod |
| 09:23.18 | Demalii | this is the second time |
| 09:23.21 | Demalii | i'll have to call you out |
| 09:23.21 | Rodrigo | "My fucking son is fucking saying shitty words all the damn time because of this stupid Nexus Word Wars" |
| 09:23.28 | Demalii | for being mr. word wars... =p |
| 09:23.33 | Demalii | lolol |
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| 09:23.43 | Demalii | ahh well |
| 09:23.55 | Demalii | shit happens |
| 09:23.59 | Demalii | try not to take it personal |
| 09:24.06 | Demalii | just reflect on how it came to happen |
| 09:24.23 | Rodrigo | dont you worry, I'm not mad anymore |
| 09:24.28 | Demalii | right on |
| 09:24.34 | Demalii | for all you know they might feature it |
| 09:24.45 | Rodrigo | I just cant understand. I've never seen someone opening a dictionary and saying "This thing offended me!" |
| 09:24.46 | Demalii | and some of them might be playing it currently typing with only one hand |
| 09:24.56 | Demalii | well |
| 09:25.06 | Rodrigo | I've never seen a mother reporting a dictionary to the public school saying that it taught bad words to her son |
| 09:25.21 | Demalii | fuck 'em.. |
| 09:25.26 | Demalii | whoever reported you was being a prick |
| 09:25.33 | Demalii | you know as well as likely the whole community |
| 09:25.38 | Demalii | whoever reported the map was being a dick |
| 09:25.45 | Rodrigo | and selfish |
| 09:25.54 | Demalii | and it didn't offend them, but they saw a word that could be used in a way.. |
| 09:25.56 | Rodrigo | because whoever did that knew that it was stopping the fun of everyone |
| 09:25.57 | Demalii | yea |
| 09:26.06 | Demalii | just to make themselves happy |
| 09:26.07 | Rodrigo | it was like |
| 09:26.17 | Rodrigo | "If I can win, no one will!" |
| 09:26.20 | Rodrigo | cant* |
| 09:26.23 | Demalii | yea haha |
| 09:26.37 | Demalii | so you repubbed though? |
| 09:26.41 | Rodrigo | cant |
| 09:26.46 | Demalii | censored? |
| 09:26.56 | Demalii | even if you rename it and shit? |
| 09:26.58 | Rodrigo | I am waiting blizzard to contact me and allow me to republish |
| 09:27.14 | Demalii | did they ban your ability to upload or wat? |
| 09:27.26 | Rodrigo | I dont want to mess with the name, even though I'm testing it with the name "Nexus Censored-Word Wars" |
| 09:27.34 | Demalii | ahh got ya |
| 09:27.54 | Rodrigo | they said they will contact me "soon" to talk about republishing NWW |
| 09:28.03 | Demalii | well if you do rename it, "nexus words for kids under 6 years of age only wars" |
| 09:28.07 | Rodrigo | "soon" was 1 week ago |
| 09:28.15 | Demalii | hmm |
| 09:28.19 | Demalii | give it time |
| 09:28.24 | Demalii | i thought |
| 09:28.28 | Rodrigo | yeah |
| 09:28.28 | Demalii | you were going to be gone for 10 days? |
| 09:28.33 | Rodrigo | starcraft spent 10 years |
| 09:28.41 | Rodrigo | maybe 2 years..... |
| 09:28.47 | Rodrigo | in 2 years I get NWW back |
| 09:28.52 | Rodrigo | for sure! |
| 09:29.04 | Rodrigo | I was without laptop for 10 days |
| 09:29.10 | Demalii | that already passed? |
| 09:29.10 | Rodrigo | but HP sent me before the time |
| 09:29.18 | Rodrigo | I went to the hell to take my laptop before 10 days |
| 09:29.18 | Demalii | ohh |
| 09:29.26 | Demalii | lol |
| 09:29.28 | Rodrigo | I got it 2 days ago |
| 09:29.38 | Demalii | right on, well welcome back i suppose |
| 09:29.44 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 09:29.49 | Demalii | I was without internet for like a day |
| 09:29.57 | Demalii | and found I couldn't even open the editor without having internet |
| 09:30.02 | Demalii | bullshit I say |
| 09:30.13 | Rodrigo | the new Nexus Not-so-bad-Word Wars is already made and tested with new features |
| 09:30.25 | Demalii | cool man |
| 09:30.39 | Rodrigo | theres cool features now |
| 09:30.47 | Rodrigo | there's now a unit that never dies |
| 09:30.47 | Demalii | ohh? |
| 09:30.52 | Demalii | what |
| 09:30.56 | Rodrigo | its a giant baneling |
| 09:30.59 | Demalii | sounds.. |
| 09:31.03 | Demalii | weird |
| 09:31.05 | Rodrigo | it never dies |
| 09:31.09 | Demalii | a unit will be attacking me the whole game? |
| 09:31.21 | Rodrigo | sort of. it explodes on the nexus only |
| 09:31.24 | Rodrigo | causing 400 damage |
| 09:31.26 | Demalii | ahh ok |
| 09:31.28 | Demalii | right on |
| 09:31.43 | Rodrigo | then, it respawns another one after 20-45 seconds |
| 09:32.11 | Rodrigo | the unit has a extreme word over it |
| 09:32.32 | Rodrigo | like antidisestablimentarianism |
| 09:32.46 | Demalii | lol |
| 09:32.49 | Demalii | so if i type that word? |
| 09:33.07 | Rodrigo | if you type it, the unit becomes yours |
| 09:33.11 | Demalii | ohhhhhhhh |
| 09:33.12 | Rodrigo | and spawns another word |
| 09:33.14 | Demalii | type |
| 09:33.17 | Demalii | tight* |
| 09:33.23 | Demalii | yea that sounds fun |
| 09:33.35 | Rodrigo | and the other team can type the other word |
| 09:33.37 | Rodrigo | and if they do |
| 09:33.44 | Demalii | right right, yea i like that |
| 09:33.45 | Rodrigo | the unit becomes their unit |
| 09:33.56 | Rodrigo | I just played today with people from sc2mapster |
| 09:34.00 | Rodrigo | it was a fucking war |
| 09:34.06 | Demalii | yea I could imagine |
| 09:34.07 | Rodrigo | the unit was stucked in the middle |
| 09:34.10 | Demalii | that's why it sounds fun haha |
| 09:34.16 | Rodrigo | going left and right, left and right, left and right |
| 09:34.17 | Demalii | going back and fourth? |
| 09:34.19 | Demalii | lol |
| 09:34.28 | Rodrigo | it is very slow |
| 09:34.32 | Rodrigo | but you can get speed upgrade |
| 09:34.46 | Rodrigo | the speed upgrade affects the unit only when it's yours |
| 09:34.48 | Demalii | that's cool too |
| 09:34.54 | Demalii | right on |
| 09:34.58 | Rodrigo | so, when the unit becomes yours, it goes faster |
| 09:35.00 | Demalii | yea that'll make it more of a war |
| 09:35.04 | Demalii | along with the bane |
| 09:35.06 | Rodrigo | when the other team steals it, it becomes slow |
| 09:35.15 | Rodrigo | there's 3 speed upgrades |
| 09:35.23 | Demalii | cool |
| 09:35.30 | Rodrigo | and the unit rewards gas |
| 09:35.37 | Rodrigo | so, every time you type, you're getting gas |
| 09:35.40 | Demalii | right on |
| 09:35.46 | Demalii | that's cool |
| 09:35.59 | Demalii | keep improving on it, sounds like it's going to be a blast now |
| 09:36.05 | Rodrigo | its cool but you also have to watch out for all the other units in game |
| 09:36.09 | Demalii | not to even say it need improving |
| 09:36.13 | Rodrigo | while the other team fucks you with the annoyling |
| 09:36.27 | Rodrigo | it was really irritating |
| 09:36.28 | Demalii | yea yea |
| 09:36.33 | Rodrigo | I just typed a big word like antidisestablimentarianism |
| 09:36.33 | Demalii | i only got to play it a couple times |
| 09:36.38 | Demalii | it was fun but just the typing |
| 09:36.43 | Rodrigo | 3 seconds later, the unit was from the other team |
| 09:36.49 | Demalii | too much for a smoker =p |
| 09:36.53 | Rodrigo | I was like "AAAAARRRGHHHHH!!! FFFF UUUU" |
| 09:36.55 | Demalii | lol |
| 09:37.24 | Rodrigo | so, the faster team moves the unit towards the other team nexus |
| 09:37.49 | Rodrigo | and the baneling uses his special attack called "It hurts like hell!" |
| 09:38.16 | Rodrigo | bang! 30% of the Nexu's life is gone |
| 09:38.27 | Demalii | sounds like it hurts.. like hell? =p |
| 09:38.32 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 09:38.48 | Rodrigo | I lost a game because I could't control the annoyling fast enough |
| 09:38.59 | Demalii | lol |
| 09:39.00 | Rodrigo | it was blowing in my side all the time |
| 09:39.19 | Demalii | yea |
| 09:39.19 | Demalii | gg |
| 09:39.39 | Rodrigo | but at least now speed upgrades are a way more valious |
| 09:39.53 | Rodrigo | because it moves the annoyling a little more towards the other team |
| 09:40.28 | Demalii | gotta bring your A-lpha game |
| 09:40.39 | Rodrigo | if you guyz want to check it out.... |
| 09:40.41 | Rodrigo | I can host it |
| 09:40.47 | Demalii | I mean I'd play but |
| 09:40.51 | Demalii | I'm the only one on |
| 09:41.28 | Demalii | and I need to get to bed, I was doing that but saw sixen on for a moment |
| 09:41.39 | Rodrigo | yeah. we need 3x3 for a nice game. 2x2 is too hard |
| 09:41.44 | Demalii | word |
| 09:41.52 | Demalii | ok dude, well until tomorrow, peace |
| 09:42.02 | Rodrigo | my lastest 2x2 game, I won in less than 3 minutes game |
| 09:42.04 | Demalii | err.. serveral hours now hah |
| 09:42.12 | Rodrigo | 1x1 - 2 min game |
| 09:42.20 | Rodrigo | 2x2 - 4 min game |
| 09:42.32 | Rodrigo | 3x3 - 7 min game |
| 09:42.45 | Demalii | right on |
| 09:42.45 | Rodrigo | 7 to 15 |
| 09:43.09 | Rodrigo | I heard they had a 1 hour game once. Unbelivable. |
| 09:43.16 | Demalii | yea really |
| 09:43.29 | Demalii | must of been some really pro typers |
| 09:43.29 | Rodrigo | my record was a 18 min game |
| 09:43.40 | Rodrigo | after 18 min you can't even type anymore |
| 09:44.02 | Rodrigo | I wish I had the replay of them |
| 09:44.07 | Rodrigo | not only pro-typers |
| 09:44.10 | Rodrigo | but pro-gamers |
| 09:44.18 | Rodrigo | they used all avaiable nukes |
| 09:44.26 | Rodrigo | the consumed all the nexus energy with psi storms |
| 09:44.31 | Rodrigo | got all upgrades |
| 09:44.36 | Rodrigo | all cannons, and all upgraded |
| 09:44.39 | Rodrigo | all towers |
| 09:44.48 | Rodrigo | spawning units all the time |
| 09:44.54 | Rodrigo | warpates on |
| 09:45.05 | Rodrigo | theres hundreds of strategy |
| 09:45.09 | Rodrigo | its not just typing |
| 09:45.26 | Rodrigo | you can't win the game just by typing |
| 09:45.42 | Rodrigo | for example, cannons help |
| 09:46.05 | Rodrigo | when theres a mass colossus coming with math expressions, the only way to survive is nuking them |
| 09:46.13 | Rodrigo | 30 colossus |
| 09:46.23 | Rodrigo | with math like (38-29) |
| 09:46.30 | Rodrigo | (46-28) |
| 09:46.40 | Rodrigo | you just dont have time to think |
| 09:46.46 | Rodrigo | 1 nuke and its all done |
| 09:46.57 | Demalii | those are simple for me |
| 09:47.05 | Rodrigo | they are simple |
| 09:47.06 | Demalii | no thinking involved |
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| 09:47.40 | Rodrigo | but not when theres 30 COLOSSUS COMING + words everywhere, and you have to watch out for the Nexus life, units coming in ALL directions, and your mind is focused on words, spelling, not in solving math |
| 09:48.00 | Demalii | ahh i see |
| 09:48.02 | Rodrigo | and 30 together, and moving |
| 09:48.08 | Rodrigo | the numbers are coliding |
| 09:48.23 | Demalii | I would imagine if I had 3 math wiz's and good typers on a team |
| 09:48.30 | Demalii | typing words should be autopilot |
| 09:48.36 | Rodrigo | the only thing you have time is to press "N" (hotkey for nuke) |
| 09:48.39 | Demalii | while overlooking the expressions |
| 09:48.44 | Demalii | lol |
| 09:48.45 | Demalii | right on |
| 09:49.08 | Rodrigo | then, there's carriers coming |
| 09:49.15 | Rodrigo | zealots being warped |
| 09:49.24 | Rodrigo | queens coming out of nydus canal |
| 09:49.47 | Rodrigo | marines being dropped from the ships |
| 09:49.59 | Rodrigo | its just too much word to be typed |
| 09:50.15 | Rodrigo | I got a game that there was 120 words in game |
| 09:50.37 | Rodrigo | 120 words! you have 5 second to type each |
| 09:50.45 | Rodrigo | I mean |
| 09:50.49 | Rodrigo | 5 seconds to type all |
| 09:51.16 | Rodrigo | there's thousands of strategies |
| 09:51.23 | Rodrigo | for example, no one starts killing medics |
| 09:51.33 | Rodrigo | medics spawns periodic table names. Its damn hard |
| 09:52.12 | Rodrigo | banelings spawns vowels. They are the first to go, but if you dont watch out, they blow ur units |
| 09:52.39 | Rodrigo | so people send heavy units like thors with some banelings in the middle |
| 09:52.52 | Rodrigo | people are so focused on the thors that they forget to type VOWELS! |
| 09:52.55 | Rodrigo | A E I O U |
| 09:53.17 | Demalii | haha, sounds fun, can't wait to try it again.. the woman woke.. it's time for me to slumber |
| 09:53.22 | Demalii | cya in a few hours |
| 09:53.27 | Rodrigo | cye |
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| 09:53.29 | Rodrigo | cya |
| 09:53.36 | onetwo | yeah i come at weird times |
| 09:53.43 | Rodrigo | yeah |
| 09:53.44 | onetwo | been 5 days of sotis cine 2 |
| 09:53.46 | onetwo | finally done |
| 09:54.27 | Rodrigo | I spent a whole night doing some new features for NWW that I was just talking about |
| 09:54.31 | progammer | finally got that fucking lost viking gold |
| 09:54.44 | progammer | give himself a cake |
| 09:54.57 | Rodrigo | grabs the piece of the cake |
| 09:55.06 | onetwo | im running out of songs to use from sc2 |
| 09:55.07 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:55.17 | progammer | pulls out another cake |
| 09:55.29 | Rodrigo | you can make ur own sounds. Grab a mic and sing |
| 09:55.40 | progammer | now that i'm pissed off with 1590 over 1600 achivement points lol |
| 09:55.44 | Rodrigo | grabs a piece of the new cake |
| 09:56.18 | Rodrigo | has 535 achievements points and he is happy with it |
| 09:56.21 | progammer | i'm gonna do some co-op streak now |
| 09:56.35 | progammer | which diff you think can easily handle a 15 streak |
| 09:56.53 | onetwo | i cant make surround sound $100 million production audio |
| 09:56.58 | onetwo | but blizz and hollywood can |
| 09:57.02 | onetwo | :( |
| 09:57.29 | Rodrigo | has someone made the Dyke Tower Defense yet? |
| 09:57.39 | progammer | also just loved day9 watching his funday monday show |
| 09:57.56 | Rodrigo | what is that about? |
| 09:57.58 | progammer | "the best strategy to do a monday funday is to lose your whole fucking base" |
| 09:58.20 | Rodrigo | I just found another person boosting maps: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1983559/1/Whiskee/matches |
| 09:58.41 | Rodrigo | he has almost 6k custom games |
| 09:59.04 | progammer | i know some guy has max achivement points, have 13k game played |
| 09:59.07 | progammer | for the past 2 months |
| 09:59.14 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 09:59.18 | progammer | in korea |
| 09:59.28 | progammer | probably sharing account each person playing 8 h each |
| 10:00.02 | onetwo | lol Rodrigo |
| 10:00.11 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 10:00.18 | onetwo | i dont think blizzard should run an algorithm to find everyone with some amount of games played every 5 mins |
| 10:00.19 | onetwo | of same map |
| 10:00.20 | onetwo | and ban those people |
| 10:00.24 | onetwo | because even we did it once |
| 10:00.28 | onetwo | but they should fix the system |
| 10:00.40 | onetwo | i wouldnt be surprised if 90% of maps on page 1 were boosting |
| 10:01.08 | onetwo | dont think that people wont |
| 10:01.09 | Rodrigo | if they ban map makers for boosting their maps, I quit starcraft. If they want to solve the problem, they fix the pop. system, and not ban the map makers for making their maps playable |
| 10:01.10 | progammer | they probably wait until they implement their new thing |
| 10:01.12 | onetwo | we all know people buy WoW gold |
| 10:02.01 | SycoPrime | Wouldn't be the first time you got banned, rodrigo ;) |
| 10:02.05 | Rodrigo | if they ban ppl for boosting, you will never see new maps on the 1st page anymore |
| 10:02.49 | Rodrigo | let they ban 80% of sc2mapster after 90% are already mad with the new system |
| 10:03.03 | progammer | should i do 15 streak co-op on hard or very hard |
| 10:03.10 | progammer | which one do you think is more reliable |
| 10:03.17 | SycoPrime | The problem would be that they believe the exploitation to be the problem, and not the system itself. And either way, it'd be quicker and easier to fix the former while working on a proper replacement. |
| 10:03.49 | Rodrigo | I believe they will fix the problem soon |
| 10:03.54 | progammer | they probably have the new replacement and wont do drastic action for this one |
| 10:04.03 | onetwo | i know ekcol doesnt boost |
| 10:04.08 | onetwo | but id be interested to see |
| 10:04.08 | SycoPrime | I still think it'd be funny if we managed to organize it so that 90% of SC2mapster get themselves banned, leave Blizzard with hardly any custom content. |
| 10:04.09 | onetwo | which ones drop |
| 10:04.16 | progammer | well the dota community is big enough |
| 10:04.18 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 10:04.22 | onetwo | thatd be the end of sc2 |
| 10:04.24 | Rodrigo | ekcol doesnt boost because his map is DOTA. It is already boosted |
| 10:04.25 | onetwo | all it would have is nexus wars |
| 10:04.36 | progammer | nexus dota wars incoming |
| 10:04.41 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:04.43 | onetwo | well in war3 |
| 10:04.46 | SycoPrime | Nah, rodrigo's too busy right now. |
| 10:04.52 | onetwo | no map survived as long as some of the maps on page 1 outside of dota/sotis |
| 10:04.54 | SycoPrime | Maybe next month. |
| 10:04.55 | onetwo | meaning people are boosting |
| 10:05.00 | Rodrigo | ekcol is right for not boosting it. Blizz wants his map on the top. If it's not, blizzard would do something anyway. He doesn't have to boost |
| 10:05.07 | onetwo | and the system also prompts replay of page 1 vs finding new maps |
| 10:05.14 | onetwo | but its hard to know whats the bigger factor at this time |
| 10:05.28 | SycoPrime | Is a rating system so horrible? |
| 10:05.41 | progammer | they do show a rating system as a mock up screneshot |
| 10:05.43 | onetwo | well lets look at the itunes app store |
| 10:05.45 | onetwo | categories |
| 10:05.46 | onetwo | and ratings |
| 10:05.59 | onetwo | the problem with maps is you cant really categorize |
| 10:05.59 | SycoPrime | Also, aren't there existing (open source even) solutions to user-based ranking that they could learn from, instead of stubbornly trying to do it themselves? |
| 10:06.03 | onetwo | well theres TD, tug, RPG |
| 10:06.04 | onetwo | but some maps |
| 10:06.06 | onetwo | are so custom |
| 10:06.09 | onetwo | they dont fit into any particular one |
| 10:06.12 | onetwo | but categories would help |
| 10:06.18 | progammer | yeah even mapster list cant figure them out |
| 10:06.30 | SycoPrime | Indeed, but they did give some option to self-categorize with game variants, didn't they? |
| 10:06.31 | progammer | every single of my map is on minigame |
| 10:06.33 | Rodrigo | the biggest problem on battle.net right now is that they made a game where custom maps are just "extra feature" |
| 10:06.41 | progammer | but we define out variant |
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| 10:07.06 | SycoPrime | Right, but if you want your map to be found, you put in the proper variant. |
| 10:07.08 | onetwo | the funniest part is even for their stock maps its backwards |
| 10:07.14 | onetwo | in war3 if you wanted to do a custom game of lost temple |
| 10:07.16 | onetwo | done easy |
| 10:07.21 | onetwo | but here, you have to host and hope its popular |
| 10:07.27 | onetwo | even for melee |
| 10:07.40 | Rodrigo | this new system cannot work by itself! |
| 10:07.57 | SycoPrime | I wonder if it would be possible to organize a strike... |
| 10:08.03 | Rodrigo | how the hell can a map be popular if people do only play popular maps!?!?!!?!?! |
| 10:08.13 | SycoPrime | "No new maps will be released until you release a popularity system that doesn't suck." |
| 10:08.20 | Rodrigo | THE ONLY, I mean, THE ******ONLY******* WAY is boosting a map. |
| 10:08.24 | Rodrigo | at LEAST the first time |
| 10:08.36 | SycoPrime | Or getting it featured* |
| 10:08.48 | Rodrigo | to be featured, people have to ask for |
| 10:09.00 | Rodrigo | and they will only ask when the map is playable |
| 10:09.31 | Rodrigo | in the case of sentry scramble, it was sent to the contest. They thought "This map is nice, but not nice enough to win the contest, so let's feature it" |
| 10:10.47 | Rodrigo | you cant just spend months making a map and wait for them to evaluate and decide whether they will feature it or not |
| 10:11.02 | SycoPrime | Indeed. |
| 10:11.31 | Rodrigo | I waited Debates to be featured. 60% of the suggestions were asking to feature Debates. Best score on the CRC Review. However, Debates was never featured. |
| 10:12.19 | Rodrigo | "Hey boss, my son made a cool map, can I feature it?" |
| 10:12.52 | onetwo | im just interested to see what beat my cine for blizzcon cine contest |
| 10:12.53 | Rodrigo | "Whatever, custom maps are just "extra" anyway" |
| 10:13.06 | onetwo | im starting to go nuts now |
| 10:13.13 | onetwo | wait till you guys see all the stops i pulled on sotis 2 |
| 10:13.17 | Rodrigo | Battle.net was designed for melee games. Custom maps are extra |
| 10:13.21 | onetwo | 3d text |
| 10:13.30 | onetwo | a 3 minute no cut shot |
| 10:13.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:14.02 | Rodrigo | thats why they ban without even giving me a warning like "Your dictionary has the word dyke. You have 3 hours to remove" |
| 10:14.05 | SycoPrime | Sweet. |
| 10:14.15 | SycoPrime | On what onetwo said * |
| 10:14.16 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:14.20 | onetwo | oh |
| 10:14.21 | onetwo | haha |
| 10:14.42 | onetwo | it was fricking time consuming doing 21 heroes |
| 10:14.45 | onetwo | 5 was fine |
| 10:14.47 | SycoPrime | They ban without warning because, after 15 years, they still haven't figured out how to moderate. |
| 10:14.49 | onetwo | but 21... man |
| 10:14.49 | onetwo | haha |
| 10:14.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~IceChat7@ip-114-201.static.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 10:15.00 | Rodrigo | I will make Dota Words where you need to type words to send spells. Expelliarmus! |
| 10:15.10 | onetwo | get that harry potter crap out of here |
| 10:15.11 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:15.12 | SycoPrime | Blizzard doesn't give a shut about custom maps because Korea doesn't give a shit about custom maps. |
| 10:15.20 | Rodrigo | LOL |
| 10:15.38 | SycoPrime | So I say we need to send Nexus Word Wars to Kim Jong Il. |
| 10:16.06 | SycoPrime | His e-mail address is probably something like evildictator@ko.no, right? |
| 10:16.07 | onetwo | more like kim jong not ill |
| 10:16.15 | Rodrigo | LOL |
| 10:16.31 | SycoPrime | I mean, think about it. In South Korea, they have a large population where it's an organized sport. |
| 10:16.34 | progammer | 1/15 streak |
| 10:16.47 | SycoPrime | But if custom maps got north korea, it'd be mandatory. |
| 10:17.00 | progammer | SycoPrime: they apparently do because they give a shit about starcarft in general |
| 10:17.10 | Rodrigo | he'll probably say that "Starcraft is the religion of Korea" |
| 10:17.10 | progammer | my video get like most views from korea |
| 10:17.21 | SycoPrime | Oh. Huh. |
| 10:17.26 | SycoPrime | Makes sense. |
| 10:17.42 | SycoPrime | But still, the bottom lime is that custom maps don't make money. Melee tournaments do. |
| 10:17.48 | Rodrigo | They are already praying for Xel' Naga |
| 10:17.57 | SycoPrime | Until they implement premium maps and take free money for our hard work |
| 10:17.59 | SycoPrime | I mean |
| 10:18.10 | SycoPrime | Allow us to profit from our labors |
| 10:18.31 | SycoPrime | Blizzard doesn't make a dime off of anything they do towards custom maps, yet they still have to commit precious resources to it. |
| 10:18.36 | Rodrigo | If I get 1 cent for each word typed on NWW, I am billionaire |
| 10:19.02 | progammer | you might have to take your math again |
| 10:19.02 | SycoPrime | And based off of the popularity system, and the random bugs in the editor, I'm going to guess "precious resources" is the new guy whose name they have trouble remembering. |
| 10:19.04 | progammer | i doubt it |
| 10:19.29 | Rodrigo | each game has an average of 500 words typed. 8,000 games/hour |
| 10:19.33 | onetwo | market place is ultimately good for everybody |
| 10:19.38 | onetwo | it means blizz makes money on it so they are forced to support it |
| 10:19.44 | SycoPrime | Rodrigo: To do that, you'd have to figure out a way to charge 2 cents for every word typed. Games would end abruptly. |
| 10:19.45 | onetwo | like apple supports developers |
| 10:20.08 | onetwo | and if we make money we can essentially buy artists |
| 10:20.09 | SycoPrime | Hah, like apple supports developers, by pulling their products if apple decides to produce a shitty replacement. |
| 10:20.15 | onetwo | :D |
| 10:20.19 | onetwo | thats something |
| 10:20.19 | onetwo | atleast |
| 10:20.20 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:20.39 | onetwo | oh and rofl yesterday |
| 10:20.41 | onetwo | i saw some idiot do parkour |
| 10:20.46 | SycoPrime | Sweet. |
| 10:20.47 | onetwo | on a tiny outdoor stairway |
| 10:20.53 | onetwo | he jumped over rail and did a summersault on grass |
| 10:20.54 | Rodrigo | apple supports developers so much that they haven't released x-code for Windows. I refuse to buy a overpriced computer just to type a code I could do in windows. |
| 10:20.56 | onetwo | then looked around |
| 10:20.59 | onetwo | i was the only one that saw |
| 10:21.00 | onetwo | haha |
| 10:21.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer_ (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 10:21.03 | SycoPrime | Hah |
| 10:21.07 | progammer_ | my streak ends at 1 :( |
| 10:21.10 | progammer_ | stupid disconnect |
| 10:21.23 | SycoPrime | But the fact that he didn't faceplant is a credit to him, although unfortunate for you, who was robbed of hilarity. |
| 10:21.42 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:24.02 | Rodrigo | COME ON! Look what is a popular thread on Blizz Forums: "370 Games Later: Thoughts on Balance." And people are listening to him just because he played 370 melee games???!?!?!? |
| 10:24.08 | Rodrigo | I am totally going to open a new thread |
| 10:24.23 | Rodrigo | "3k games later: Thoughts on Popularity System" |
| 10:24.39 | onetwo | lol 2990 of which were boosts |
| 10:24.45 | SycoPrime | Or "How I boosted my map to popularity in only 2500 plays" by Rodrigo Alves. |
| 10:24.51 | SycoPrime | Aww, he beat me to it. |
| 10:24.51 | Rodrigo | LOL |
| 10:24.55 | onetwo | damn joke stealer |
| 10:24.57 | onetwo | LOL |
| 10:25.31 | Rodrigo | less than 1000 of it |
| 10:25.38 | Rodrigo | most of it was debugging |
| 10:25.51 | Rodrigo | publishing, joining the game for a few seconds to check something |
| 10:26.06 | Rodrigo | I played once 200 games in a day just testing like that |
| 10:26.31 | Rodrigo | and I'm stucked with starcraft since the first day |
| 10:27.08 | Rodrigo | 4 maps published (Platform Defense, Platform Defense Versus, Debates, NWW) |
| 10:27.37 | Rodrigo | I barely remember how was my life before Blizzard sends to me the Beta Invitation |
| 10:28.35 | SycoPrime | If it's anything like that video I saw, theme parks and roller coasters were involved. |
| 10:28.43 | SycoPrime | Or maybe you were trapped in a mine. |
| 10:28.46 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 10:29.26 | *** part/#sc2mapster Kalekin (~nnscript@41-133-29-134.dsl.mweb.co.za) |
| 10:29.51 | SycoPrime | You know, nobody is going to like this, but I don't think anyone has mentioned...a bunch of men were trapped in a hole in the ground for two months. |
| 10:29.54 | onetwo | tf2 and zp |
| 10:29.55 | onetwo | zps |
| 10:29.57 | SycoPrime | SOMEONE got raped. |
| 10:29.59 | onetwo | was my pre-sc2 life |
| 10:30.06 | SycoPrime | zps? |
| 10:30.12 | onetwo | the rape scene will be in the hollywood movie |
| 10:30.18 | onetwo | zombie panic: source |
| 10:30.24 | onetwo | the mod that ruined my appreciation of L4D |
| 10:30.30 | Rodrigo | I was on the mine. |
| 10:30.41 | SycoPrime | I think that was still in development last time I checked on it...I must google. |
| 10:30.46 | Rodrigo | doing Debates and Nexus Word Wars |
| 10:30.59 | SycoPrime | You were "on" the mine? Like standing over it, yelling taunts at the poor trapped men? |
| 10:31.01 | Rodrigo | where ddi you think the word Dyke come from? |
| 10:31.03 | Rodrigo | did* |
| 10:31.19 | Rodrigo | I was IN the mine |
| 10:31.33 | onetwo | "turns out to survive the 69 days the only thing the miners were able to do is play debates on starcraft 2 on laptops provided by oakley |
| 10:31.39 | onetwo | " |
| 10:31.43 | Rodrigo | LMAO |
| 10:32.00 | SycoPrime | Ohhh |
| 10:32.05 | Rodrigo | "one of the miners was called Hydra" |
| 10:32.08 | SycoPrime | That's why they created those laptops that rolled up. |
| 10:32.35 | SycoPrime | Play debates, and, on tuesdays, rape. |
| 10:32.43 | Rodrigo | If I had my laptop and internet, 2 months would go like 2 days |
| 10:33.14 | Rodrigo | New map on battle.net: "Life of a Miner" |
| 10:33.26 | SycoPrime | onetwo beat you to it. |
| 10:33.51 | progammer_ | scv = miner, how does this only occur to me now |
| 10:34.06 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 10:34.10 | onetwo | yeah i already made the chilean miner map |
| 10:34.10 | onetwo | post |
| 10:34.12 | SycoPrime | So, in the hollywood movie, would Antonio Banderas' character be raper, or rapee? |
| 10:34.27 | onetwo | he plays the president |
| 10:34.27 | Rodrigo | The chilean miner map: A 2 months map |
| 10:34.31 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:34.38 | Rodrigo | you have to play for 2 months to win the game |
| 10:34.44 | onetwo | kk night guys |
| 10:34.45 | SycoPrime | "We took EXACTLY 69 days to develop this." |
| 10:34.49 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:35.04 | Rodrigo | the game has one trigger |
| 10:35.30 | Rodrigo | wait (69*24*60*60); victory; |
| 10:35.31 | SycoPrime | "Game time has expired: 60 * 60 * 24 * 69, end game in victory"? |
| 10:35.42 | SycoPrime | :p |
| 10:35.51 | Rodrigo | wait (69*24*60*60) real time seconds; end game in victory for all players; |
| 10:35.58 | SycoPrime | hahaha |
| 10:36.45 | Rodrigo | I really have to do this map |
| 10:36.51 | Rodrigo | I will just make a map that is all black |
| 10:37.00 | Rodrigo | with the players being SCV |
| 10:37.03 | Rodrigo | in a whole |
| 10:37.13 | Rodrigo | and a timer: |
| 10:37.29 | Rodrigo | Victory in 69 days |
| 10:37.40 | Rodrigo | in a hole* |
| 10:37.51 | Rodrigo | I will boost it to the top |
| 10:37.56 | Rodrigo | and it will be popular |
| 10:38.25 | Rodrigo | that would be awesome |
| 10:38.57 | Rodrigo | just SCV in a hole and the timer on the top: victory in 69 days" |
| 10:39.17 | Rodrigo | map name: "The chilean miners" |
| 10:40.45 | Rodrigo | the map would get banned in less than 69 days |
| 10:44.17 | SycoPrime | I wonder if banning a map cancels all games in progress, or just stops new ones from being made. |
| 10:44.49 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 10:45.26 | Rodrigo | SycoPrime, it just removes it from the list. The map stays in the profile, but you can't play. |
| 10:45.42 | Rodrigo | it says I have the map published, but I don't |
| 10:46.02 | SycoPrime | I see. |
| 10:46.08 | SycoPrime | Can you upload maps by that name? |
| 10:46.16 | Rodrigo | no. the map is published |
| 10:46.32 | SycoPrime | I mean, what happens if you "update" it? |
| 10:46.54 | Rodrigo | I believe nothing. It updates it, but it is still not showing up on battle.net |
| 10:47.02 | SycoPrime | Lame. |
| 10:47.24 | Rodrigo | I published with a new name (Nexus Censored-Word Wars) privately just for testing |
| 10:47.34 | SycoPrime | Hmmm...I should procure a dummy account, and upload a bunch of maps with the intention of gettign the names banned. |
| 10:48.00 | SycoPrime | I wonder if I can name a map "Heart of the Swarm", and subsequently get it banned. |
| 10:48.31 | Rodrigo | just make a map with SCVs in a mine and a 69 days countdown to victory and call it "Life of a Chilean Miner." Boost it to the top. It will be banned on the next day |
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| 10:49.08 | SycoPrime | Yes, but I'm thinking more like "remake" popular WC3 maps, sc1 maps. |
| 10:49.24 | SycoPrime | Then get the titles banned. |
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| 10:50.04 | SycoPrime | Also, for good measure, make a map called "If you ban this, a kitten dies" |
| 10:50.29 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 10:50.48 | Rodrigo | make a map called "The map blizzard banned" |
| 10:50.52 | Rodrigo | when blizz bans it |
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| 10:51.01 | Rodrigo | you make a thread "Blizzard banned the map blizzard banned" |
| 10:51.01 | SycoPrime | "News flash: Blizzard kills kittens!" |
| 10:51.07 | Rodrigo | what map? "The map blizzard banned" |
| 10:51.12 | SycoPrime | haha |
| 10:51.13 | Rodrigo | ok, but what map |
| 10:51.15 | SycoPrime | Like whose on first. |
| 10:51.33 | SycoPrime | Then make another map called "The Name of the Map" |
| 10:51.45 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 10:51.47 | SycoPrime | "What's the name of the map?" "Yes, they banned that one, too" |
| 10:51.50 | HRPuffinstuf | im having this problem, when i play the same sound on more than one unit it doesnt work, i think it detects duplicates? how do i make it allow duplicates? |
| 10:51.53 | Rodrigo | LMAO |
| 10:52.19 | Rodrigo | so you should make one called "really?" |
| 10:52.33 | HRPuffinstuf | i know its a long shot that someone would know but i would really like to figure it out |
| 10:52.36 | SycoPrime | "No, the map blizzard banned, what's it called?" "The map blizzard banned." "Yes. What's it called?" |
| 10:52.39 | SycoPrime | "What's it called was banned last week." |
| 10:52.55 | Rodrigo | "really?" "Really is also banned" |
| 10:53.09 | HRPuffinstuf | the sound data has fields for dupe and duplicate but i dont know how to change it |
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| 10:53.11 | SycoPrime | Senor puff and stuff: Even if you put waits after the sounds? |
| 10:53.25 | HRPuffinstuf | hmm, i think so |
| 10:53.28 | SycoPrime | It can't be changed in the data editor? |
| 10:53.38 | HRPuffinstuf | i think it can be changed, but i dont know how |
| 10:53.42 | Rodrigo | 4 am. I have to go to sleep |
| 10:54.01 | SycoPrime | Good night, rodrigo. Dream lots of words. |
| 10:54.11 | Rodrigo | I will dream with a dyke |
| 10:54.18 | SycoPrime | She won't put out, you know. |
| 10:54.20 | Rodrigo | which one I can't tell |
| 10:54.48 | Rodrigo | see ya |
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| 10:56.18 | HRPuffinstuf | if i set Dupe Maximum MethodReplace it at least lets one copy play, with it set to prevent, both copies stop playing |
| 10:58.14 | HRPuffinstuf | i need to find where to set Dupe Maximum for a sound |
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| 11:24.01 | HRPuffinstuf | i think multiple copies work with other sounds, like attack launch... maybe only on combat channel? |
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| 11:35.50 | HRPuffinstuf | maybe its because attack sounds are .wavs and the sounds im trying to play copies of is a streaming ogg |
| 11:37.48 | HRPuffinstuf | yep that was it |
| 11:38.20 | HRPuffinstuf | if you try to play the same sound twice at same time, like on 2 different units, it cant be streaming load |
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| 11:44.53 | Hello | hello, I need help setting up teams in the lobby, is anyone avaible to help me? |
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| 11:47.25 | Hello | I am looking at this post: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/7872-how-do-u-make-it-so-teams-in-lobby-match-in-game/?page=2#posts (Millenium7) and I need help understanding the part "Variable - Set NumberOfPlayers[1] = (Number of players in Team1Players)" |
| 11:48.02 | Hello | is that an player group array? |
| 11:48.08 | Hello | a* |
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| 11:49.31 | syltman | Hey, is it possible to make so that an ability cost minerals to create? |
| 11:49.44 | Hello | yes |
| 11:50.03 | Hello | in the data editor there is a field for that |
| 11:50.12 | HRPuffinstuf | should be in ability - cost, or maybe button - cost |
| 11:50.12 | Hello | do u need help setting it up? |
| 11:50.31 | Hello | yep |
| 11:51.02 | syltman | there is a Cost - Cost+ |
| 11:51.02 | Hello | hey hrpuffin, do u have some knowledge of triggers? |
| 11:51.06 | syltman | don't understand it tho |
| 11:52.02 | HRPuffinstuf | yes i do |
| 11:52.13 | Hello | u want "Cost - Cost - Technology Resource Cost ((0|0|0|0))" |
| 11:52.30 | Hello | double click the "+" field to expand it |
| 11:52.41 | Skizot | man people hate on models alot :/ |
| 11:53.24 | Hello | I am looking at setting up my lobby where whatever ur spot in the lobby = ur team |
| 11:53.42 | Skizot | "man these models suck, you dont know how to create guardians." |
| 11:53.58 | SycoPrime | Hello: Without looking at the post, what you pasted says "The value of an array of integer at position 1 equals the number of players in a player group that I defined" |
| 11:54.00 | syltman | ahh |
| 11:54.04 | SycoPrime | Skizot: Fuck people. |
| 11:54.05 | syltman | that scroll bar is hard to find xp |
| 11:54.13 | Skizot | no shit. |
| 11:54.15 | syltman | see* |
| 11:54.16 | Skizot | fucking haters |
| 11:54.19 | Skizot | lol |
| 11:54.21 | SycoPrime | If they want a guardian their way, they can make it their way. |
| 11:54.51 | SycoPrime | So............you gonna make a "morph from mutalisk" animation? :D |
| 11:55.09 | Hello | thanks prime, let me test that |
| 11:55.27 | Hello | 1 sec |
| 11:56.07 | Skizot | there already is one.. lol |
| 11:56.11 | Hello | so if i have a 3v3 map. I would want the varable to be interger (3), right? |
| 11:56.32 | syltman | alright it worked, thanks Hello |
| 11:56.55 | Hello | np, how do u make the red text? |
| 11:57.10 | Hello | sorry, not familar with irc |
| 11:57.35 | SycoPrime | Haha, I was about to explain how to make red text in editor >_> |
| 11:57.44 | Hello | hehe |
| 11:57.58 | SycoPrime | Hello: Arrays start at 0, and "1" would be the "second" position of the array. 3v3 is two teams, so you'd need team "0", or team "1". |
| 11:58.15 | SycoPrime | Meaning your array would be sized "1" (2), not "3" (4) (teams). |
| 11:58.56 | HRPuffinstuf | isnt position in lobby same as player number? |
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| 11:59.09 | Hello | not by default |
| 11:59.31 | Hello | starcraft I and warcraft 3 were like that |
| 11:59.54 | Hello | but in sc2, its whatever the person join = player # |
| 12:00.15 | syltman | Alright next question: Can I make it so that your unit can only travel across lava and lower ground but not high ground? |
| 12:01.02 | HRPuffinstuf | thats a tough one, maybe u can validate move ability on ground height |
| 12:01.16 | HRPuffinstuf | not sure tho |
| 12:02.59 | syltman | yeah I think in wc3 there was an option to set it to hover |
| 12:03.15 | Hello | ya, i can't think of an easy solution for that |
| 12:04.16 | Hello | well u can draw regions in the high ground and not allow unit X to enter |
| 12:07.13 | syltman | alright |
| 12:07.16 | syltman | that will work I think |
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| 12:25.54 | SycoPrime | I wonder if this will create a redundant chain. |
| 12:25.57 | SycoPrime | ~seen SycoPrime |
| 12:26.05 | purl | sycoprime is currently on #sc2mapster (3h 15m 20s). Has said a total of 82 messages. Is idling for 8s, last said: '~seen SycoPrime'. |
| 12:26.05 | Arthas--- | it wont |
| 12:26.05 | Arthas--- | :p |
| 12:26.37 | SycoPrime | Baw. Now I have to think of something cooler to leave if anyone's bored enough to do that. |
| 12:27.31 | SycoPrime | I seen what you did there. |
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| 12:49.09 | Zara | hi peepz |
| 12:52.47 | ultraviolent | I want items appear at random on multiple regions, whats the easiest way to do this? |
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| 12:53.54 | Zara | random? |
| 12:54.07 | Zara | you create a regions array |
| 12:54.23 | Zara | and then you pick a random index and create it inside the chosen region |
| 12:55.08 | Zara | ok ultra? |
| 12:55.15 | ultraviolent | haha, no |
| 12:55.20 | ultraviolent | do you mean the add region function? |
| 12:55.21 | Zara | -_- |
| 12:55.31 | Zara | dunno you have preplaced regions? |
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| 12:55.40 | Zara | or you need to create them on the fly? |
| 12:55.48 | ultraviolent | i preplaced them |
| 12:57.03 | Zara | so create an array of them |
| 12:57.09 | Zara | within map initialization |
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| 12:59.46 | ultraviolent | i guess i need some sort of tutorials |
| 13:01.25 | A1win | mmh... why doesn't my timer work o: it shows the window but the time just says 0:00:00 |
| 13:02.18 | Helral | did you set an actual timer to it? |
| 13:03.00 | A1win | "start timer" and then "create timer window for last started timer" |
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| 13:04.25 | A1win | http://pastebin.org/253937 |
| 13:04.56 | A1win | what's wrong? :x |
| 13:05.05 | Helral | did you use show timer? |
| 13:05.17 | Helral | or is that perhaps not needed? |
| 13:05.25 | A1win | there's no such thing, only show/hide timer window |
| 13:05.28 | A1win | and the window does show |
| 13:05.34 | A1win | it just displays zero in it |
| 13:05.59 | Helral | hmmm let's see what I get. |
| 13:06.03 | A1win | well tried it anyway, didn't work |
| 13:06.35 | Helral | ow my timerwindow is hidden behind a dialog ;p |
| 13:08.17 | Helral | hmmm I got the same problem it seems. |
| 13:08.38 | Zara | try to create timer, then window, then start it |
| 13:08.54 | A1win | there's no "create timer" action |
| 13:10.49 | A1win | meh |
| 13:11.00 | A1win | oh well it wasn't that important anyway |
| 13:11.12 | Helral | hmmm |
| 13:11.13 | Helral | weird |
| 13:11.28 | Zara | no one here is quite good at weapons making?! |
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| 13:12.33 | Zara | seems not... |
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| 13:21.55 | Bibendus[AFK] | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 13:29.23 | ultraviolent | i cant find any tutorials for region arrays |
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| 13:30.07 | ultraviolent | or anything about random item droppings, etc |
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| 13:30.14 | ultraviolent | thats frustrating :( |
| 13:31.21 | Helral | meows |
| 13:31.33 | Helral | ultraviolent: random item dropping, is done with the loot value. |
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| 13:32.01 | syltman | What's an ability command? |
| 13:32.21 | Helral | the command used for an ability. |
| 13:32.30 | syltman | where can I edit those? |
| 13:33.03 | Helral | an ability can have multiple actions. most actions have a cancel and execute action. |
| 13:33.14 | Helral | how do you mean edit? |
| 13:33.41 | syltman | Well I'm trying to make a copy of the raven auto turret ability |
| 13:33.45 | syltman | with another unit spawning |
| 13:34.10 | Helral | ahhh then you just need to alter the spawn effect of the copy. |
| 13:34.57 | syltman | how :S? |
| 13:36.12 | Helral | if you've duplicated the ability correctly you should have at the effect data type an effect called: "Raven - Auto Turret Release copy |
| 13:36.39 | syltman | I got one called "Raven - Auto Turret Release" |
| 13:36.59 | Helral | hmmm then the effect wasn't duplicated. |
| 13:37.19 | syltman | So should I duplicate those then? |
| 13:38.05 | Helral | you need a duplicate of every effect related to the "Raven - Auto Turret". and make sure that the links are connected to the correct effects. |
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| 13:38.21 | syltman | I do that by giving them the same ID or? |
| 13:38.52 | Helral | the ability has a field called effect - effect. or something. |
| 13:38.58 | Helral | that one needs to be linked correctly. |
| 13:39.05 | Helral | and at the effects the same. |
| 13:39.20 | syltman | k |
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| 13:45.31 | Zara | no one here can help me with a weapon? |
| 13:46.47 | Helral | what kind of weapon? ;p |
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| 13:47.03 | Zara | w8 I explain in query |
| 13:48.12 | syltman | alright I got it working |
| 13:48.24 | syltman | feels like I did something wrong but oh well |
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| 14:09.02 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 14:09.11 | Helral | what should I work on for my RDM..... |
| 14:09.57 | Ihatebaenlings | anyone good with animations and actors? |
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| 14:14.39 | Ihatebaenlings | <- Needs Help. In the actor, I have the Msg Type - Animation Play - Animation Properties. In Animation Properties I have that set to "dialogue". The problem is the model has 2 dialogue's, Dialogue 01 and Dialogue 04. I don't know how to set it to only play dialogue 04 |
| 14:15.40 | EternalWraith | Sixen |
| 14:15.40 | EternalWraith | You there? |
| 14:16.23 | Helral | Ihatebaenlings: send message play Dialogue 04? |
| 14:16.40 | Helral | EternalWraith: maybe if you slap him with a trout :P |
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| 14:33.14 | syltman | How do I make a SCV gather with triggers? |
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| 14:55.33 | Helral | syltman: Issue order targeting unit, gather targeting mineral field |
| 14:55.47 | syltman | yah found it |
| 14:55.56 | syltman | now I wonder how I can make a unit attack-move |
| 14:56.10 | Helral | issue order targeting point, order: attack |
| 14:56.12 | syltman | or well, I want to make banelings that will explode in contact to anything |
| 14:58.37 | Helral | so anyone got any idea on what I should work on for my RDM? |
| 14:59.06 | Helral | slaps Sixen around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:59.14 | Helral | meows innocently |
| 15:10.04 | Bibendus[AFK] | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 15:31.40 | Araxnid | hello Arhas |
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| 15:51.59 | syltman | Where can I set the range of units? |
| 15:52.19 | Helral | syltman: which range? |
| 15:52.21 | slightlyrandom | set the range of their weapon |
| 15:52.26 | Helral | aquisition range, weapon range? |
| 15:53.24 | Xaragoth | Go for Weapon |
| 15:53.25 | Xaragoth | Stats |
| 15:53.26 | Xaragoth | Range |
| 15:53.56 | syltman | found it |
| 15:53.57 | syltman | thanks |
| 15:54.25 | Helral | Xara you remember where the acquisition range is set? |
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| 15:54.46 | Xaragoth | under unit, I believe |
| 15:56.00 | syltman | what's the diffrence? |
| 15:56.22 | slightlyrandom | One is how far it can shoot |
| 15:56.44 | slightlyrandom | the other is how far away it'll target enemies |
| 15:56.54 | slightlyrandom | shoot at em, follow em |
| 15:56.58 | Helral | found it it was at the weapon. |
| 15:57.02 | Helral | it's called scan range now. |
| 15:58.04 | syltman | hmm |
| 16:03.36 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb29Yl5DfDQ |
| 16:03.37 | Xaragoth | I like this. |
| 16:04.04 | Xaragoth | Not over-the-top but at least it doesn't sound too much like everything else you hear nowadays |
| 16:07.57 | Helral | hmmm |
| 16:08.08 | Helral | what should I work on for my RDM :S can't think of anything to work on atm :P |
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| 16:28.04 | FahqueL | has anyone managed to get MARKERS to work?! |
| 16:30.03 | FahqueL | i have an ability (effect - target), it calls Persistent effect (creates 24 persistent offsets in shape of a cone), a search area is run at each persistent offset and the search area applies a damage effect. |
| 16:31.06 | FahqueL | i have ID markers enabled on the ability, and "No Markers" validator on the dmg effect |
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| 16:31.25 | FahqueL | but it still hits units multiple times if they are in overlapping searches |
| 16:31.58 | slightlyrandom | give it a behavior |
| 16:32.01 | Araxnid | er |
| 16:32.01 | FahqueL | i know i can workaround this with behaviors... but this is exactly how markers are supposed to work... |
| 16:32.18 | Helral | is your marker set correctly then? ;p |
| 16:32.27 | Helral | the linkmarks at each point. |
| 16:32.39 | FahqueL | more detail helral :) |
| 16:33.04 | Helral | Dmg effect X uses marker X, search effect Y uses marker X as well. |
| 16:33.16 | Helral | or do they have different markers... |
| 16:33.23 | Helral | might that be the problem. |
| 16:33.31 | FahqueL | i suppose it could be |
| 16:33.39 | Helral | just an idea, never worked with them. |
| 16:33.44 | FahqueL | but i honestly just duplicated the flaming betty.... |
| 16:33.59 | FahqueL | and it only has markers enabled at the weapon and the dmg effect |
| 16:34.43 | FahqueL | and the only coherent responses about markers on forums are zifoon |
| 16:34.54 | Helral | and you've got those markers setup correctly? |
| 16:35.16 | FahqueL | as far as i know :) |
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| 16:42.50 | EternalWraith | I hate noobs |
| 16:42.55 | EternalWraith | Damn lazy noobs |
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| 16:49.59 | FahqueL | aha i got it! |
| 16:50.15 | FahqueL | needed the ID marker at the create persistent, not the ability |
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| 17:29.00 | Hello | hey slightly random, are u there? |
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| 17:43.37 | Hello | hey guys, can someone help me with a trigger question I have? |
| 17:44.56 | Hello | I am trying to setup so my lobby teams = my ingame teams |
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| 17:45.39 | Hello | I found how to do this in this thread: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/7872-how-do-u-make-it-so-teams-in-lobby-match-in-game/?page=2#posts |
| 17:45.50 | SouLCarveR | Need help with force effects |
| 17:46.14 | Hello | but I don't understand the "Variable - Set NumberOfPlayers[1] = (Number of players in Team1Players)" part |
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| 18:01.54 | Zara | hi all |
| 18:03.16 | Zara | anyone knows how to make a unit attack a random unit within it's range using its weapon? |
| 18:11.43 | SouLCarveR | looking for some tips with using force effects |
| 18:13.29 | slightlyrandom | Zara: Issue order |
| 18:19.27 | Araxnid | ratatata.,. |
| 18:19.34 | Zara | slight i need to do this through data |
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| 18:19.50 | Zara | I don't understand how to make a unit choose random target for every attack |
| 18:20.13 | RinArenna | I'm baaaaack~ Though most of you likely don't know who I am. |
| 18:20.53 | SouLCarveR | zara |
| 18:21.02 | SouLCarveR | you want it to attack different units each time? |
| 18:21.11 | slightlyrandom | No, random unit each time |
| 18:21.18 | Zara | yes soul |
| 18:21.20 | slightlyrandom | (Random can be the same) |
| 18:21.22 | Zara | exactly |
| 18:21.25 | SouLCarveR | you make the weapon apply a short duration behavior to its targets |
| 18:21.29 | Zara | random can also be the same |
| 18:21.33 | SouLCarveR | and then add a validator to the weapon |
| 18:21.39 | SouLCarveR | that it doesnt attack units with the debuff |
| 18:22.03 | SouLCarveR | or make a trigger |
| 18:22.05 | slightlyrandom | What if there's only one unit left ? |
| 18:22.05 | Zara | SouL i only need a random target, can also be the previous one |
| 18:22.13 | SouLCarveR | yeah well |
| 18:22.19 | SouLCarveR | good luck with that |
| 18:22.33 | slightlyrandom | Also: Weapons chose targets based on <Validator> |
| 18:22.42 | SouLCarveR | you could force it to reaquire a target with trigger |
| 18:22.46 | slightlyrandom | That is, closest first, lowest HP first, furthers first |
| 18:22.57 | slightlyrandom | Assuming priority is the same on the units |
| 18:23.23 | Zara | slight how can I change that to random? |
| 18:23.52 | slightlyrandom | Can't recall, but theres a data field that sets what the weapons specific priority is |
| 18:23.59 | Zara | Within the unit range, I only need to make the unit attack a random enemy. |
| 18:24.29 | Zara | It can be also the the same enemy that has been attacked right before |
| 18:26.10 | Zara | aw i found it |
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| 18:34.43 | RinArenna | Hmm, I need to update SC2. |
| 18:34.48 | Vulfe | what's up |
| 18:34.49 | Vulfe | guysss |
| 18:35.38 | Vulfe | O_o |
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| 18:36.16 | RinArenna | Yo, Vulfe. |
| 18:36.25 | Araxnid | i hate blizzard |
| 18:36.26 | Vulfe | Do I know you? |
| 18:36.32 | Vulfe | -_- |
| 18:36.39 | Araxnid | they translate animation in agent events, but they didnt translate animation in preview |
| 18:36.57 | Araxnid | how the hell i can understand it.. |
| 18:37.18 | Vulfe | lol |
| 18:37.33 | RinArenna | Whether you know me or not isn't important. What is important was that I was nice enough to say hello. >_> |
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| 18:38.18 | Vulfe | Okay |
| 18:38.20 | Vulfe | :D |
| 18:38.28 | Vulfe | I haven't had time for starcraft-related things |
| 18:38.32 | Vulfe | this is bad :( |
| 18:38.44 | Araxnid | real life |
| 18:38.46 | Araxnid | is so real life |
| 18:38.46 | Araxnid | xD |
| 18:38.52 | RinArenna | Same here. I've been Brb'ed for a month at least. Lol. |
| 18:40.59 | Vulfe | funtimes |
| 18:43.43 | HeyRevolver | Scanners OWNS |
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| 18:47.01 | Vulfe | scanners? |
| 18:52.48 | Araxnid | can someone help me with ability? |
| 18:52.57 | Araxnid | i cant understan, why it always running in one direction |
| 18:53.11 | Vulfe | ? |
| 18:53.14 | Vulfe | what do you mean |
| 18:53.24 | Araxnid | er |
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| 18:53.31 | Araxnid | its always firing in bot |
| 18:53.54 | Araxnid | like linear missile |
| 18:54.10 | Araxnid | but even if i choise other target, it still will be launch in previous direction |
| 18:54.17 | Vulfe | how is it launched? |
| 18:54.48 | Araxnid | er, its a missile launch ability, that launchs a persistant effect, that launch search in are effect, that launch a damage effect |
| 18:55.31 | Araxnid | the missile going in targer, but persistant effect always launchis in one direction |
| 18:56.19 | RinArenna | Huh... Items seem like they're a lot easier to design in the data editor rather than .xml .... |
| 18:56.59 | Araxnid | i can give a example of map ( its contains only this ability ( i cant understand why its not working |
| 18:57.20 | Araxnid | i mean, its working, but there is some thing about direction.. |
| 19:00.18 | Araxnid | dammn it.. |
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| 19:04.08 | RinArenna | Hey, is it possible to allow a player to access containers through dialogs instead of regular UI? |
| 19:06.59 | s3rius | Don't think so, arenna. |
| 19:07.31 | s3rius | We can't "simulate" user input through triggers. So we can't tell a container to open itself when the user does something. |
| 19:07.36 | RinArenna | Dang. I'm having trouble figuring out how I'm going to handle inventory and equipment in my third person RPG. |
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| 19:08.02 | RinArenna | I don't use regular UI, since it's disabled. I have to use just dialogs. |
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| 19:12.51 | SouLCarveR | anybody here know how to use force effects? |
| 19:12.55 | Vulfe | yep |
| 19:13.08 | SouLCarveR | you do vulfe? |
| 19:13.13 | Vulfe | yep |
| 19:13.29 | Vulfe | To get things to actually move, you have to keep applying the force |
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| 19:15.33 | HRPuffinstuf | i made all my cars have individual 3d radios, where you can hear the other persons as they drive by |
| 19:15.53 | HRPuffinstuf | but it only lets me have 1 copy of each song playing... |
| 19:16.15 | HRPuffinstuf | i think its because its a streaming ogg, rather than a wav that gets fully loaded |
| 19:16.51 | HRPuffinstuf | maybe ill just have to only play songs that arent already playing... |
| 19:17.30 | Vulfe | lol |
| 19:17.33 | Vulfe | for your racing game? |
| 19:17.34 | Vulfe | XD |
| 19:17.56 | HRPuffinstuf | i wanted to have a person own radio be played not on unit, but only on unit for other people... so your own volume would be constant |
| 19:18.06 | HRPuffinstuf | but im afraid it just doesnt like that many sounds playing |
| 19:18.35 | RinArenna | HR, you could always just... Y'know, octuple the songs so there's a group of songs for each player, right? |
| 19:18.40 | Araxnid | where can i setup speed of projectile? |
| 19:18.43 | HRPuffinstuf | possibly |
| 19:18.44 | Araxnid | in units or? |
| 19:19.01 | HRPuffinstuf | i know that one arax |
| 19:19.07 | HRPuffinstuf | it might be the missile mover |
| 19:19.10 | HRPuffinstuf | i can go check |
| 19:19.20 | HRPuffinstuf | look at the projectile unit for the weapon |
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| 19:19.41 | Araxnid | yep |
| 19:19.43 | HRPuffinstuf | i had to do it so missiles could catch cars |
| 19:19.46 | Araxnid | i find something about maximum speed |
| 19:20.00 | RinArenna | Something I've noticed that I really like, if you increase the size of a light projecting model, it'll increase the size of the light projected. |
| 19:20.07 | HRPuffinstuf | im loading up my map 1 sec |
| 19:20.18 | RinArenna | But there's a limit... |
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| 19:21.23 | HRPuffinstuf | Araxnid>: find the unit for the projectile, look at its mover, then go edit that mover |
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| 19:21.48 | HRPuffinstuf | and then u can change max speed and acceleration |
| 19:22.33 | Araxnid | yep yep, i find this |
| 19:23.00 | HRPuffinstuf | rin, i may try your idea of dupelicating, but i wonder if it will work with the same .ogg file |
| 19:24.59 | RinArenna | Well, I'm sure it's only doing it for the exact same .ogg files. So if you have different files that sound exactly the same it'll see them as different sound riles, right? |
| 19:26.08 | RinArenna | So it'll probably see; FirstSound1, FirstSound2, FirstSound3. All the files sound exactly the same, but since they're different files it'll probably let them play all at the same time. |
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| 19:30.40 | HRPuffinstuf | but i cant have 8 copies of the ogg file, there are 2mb each.... it would have to be different sounds with same ogg file link |
| 19:31.01 | HRPuffinstuf | im probably gonna make it check if a song is playing b4 selecting it |
| 19:31.35 | RinArenna | Oh, yeah, didn't think about file size. |
| 19:32.07 | HRPuffinstuf | turning in to a lot of work for 3d radio, i wonder if i should put it back to normal, i dont want to cause any more lag |
| 19:32.31 | HRPuffinstuf | but there is supposed to be doppler effects also, just havent got it working |
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| 19:32.48 | HRPuffinstuf | can u imagine someone driving past u with music blaring and a doppler effect |
| 19:33.03 | RinArenna | Well, try to run through what can be done before giving up. I'm sure you can find a way. |
| 19:34.07 | A1win | how'd I make a behavior that would show a "+x" text graphic on a unit when it dies, where x is the amount of custom resources the unit provides when killed? and so that it shows to all players |
| 19:34.38 | HRPuffinstuf | only problem besides copies is when the camera target get too far away from the car, under bridges and jumps .... i set it to ignore distance, but it still goes by cam target and height |
| 19:34.58 | HRPuffinstuf | A1win, use trigger to make a text tag |
| 19:35.11 | HRPuffinstuf | set its duration to die automatically |
| 19:35.35 | A1win | won't that cause problems when there's a lot of units dying? |
| 19:35.36 | HRPuffinstuf | u can also give it movement, so it floats upward |
| 19:35.44 | HRPuffinstuf | it is the standard way |
| 19:35.53 | A1win | mmh |
| 19:36.02 | HRPuffinstuf | its just a text tag, not much load |
| 19:36.14 | A1win | mmk, I'll go with that then |
| 19:36.25 | A1win | not sure if I even want it, just need to see how it feels |
| 19:36.28 | RinArenna | Hmm, has anyone made a tutorial on getting SSAO to work? |
| 19:36.34 | HRPuffinstuf | its like 1 polygon, a unit has thousands |
| 19:36.46 | HRPuffinstuf | what is ssao |
| 19:36.55 | RinArenna | Screen Space Ambient Occlusion. |
| 19:37.05 | RinArenna | It's an option given in the lighting editor. |
| 19:37.21 | HRPuffinstuf | i havent messed with light, i really should tho |
| 19:37.48 | HRPuffinstuf | im looking for a partner for my mario kart map |
| 19:38.11 | RinArenna | Well, I love lighting. Lighting is something I'm really good with. |
| 19:38.42 | HRPuffinstuf | have u played SC Rally? are u US? |
| 19:38.52 | RinArenna | I love placing lighting and figuring out how to get lighting to be visually pleasing. |
| 19:38.59 | RinArenna | Sadly, I am US, my trial isn't. |
| 19:39.05 | HRPuffinstuf | haha |
| 19:39.18 | HRPuffinstuf | i havent changed my lighting at all.... |
| 19:39.36 | HRPuffinstuf | i would like to have day/night mode tho, maybe some weather |
| 19:39.43 | RinArenna | But from what I know, maps aren't regional specific so I can toss you my maps to see the lighting. |
| 19:39.51 | RinArenna | I haven't figured out day/night though. |
| 19:40.00 | HRPuffinstuf | retribution TD had different lighting for each round, it was nice |
| 19:40.20 | HRPuffinstuf | im sure you can just use a trigger to change lighting based on time of day |
| 19:40.32 | HRPuffinstuf | there is a trigger to get time of day |
| 19:41.03 | RinArenna | Yeah, there is. |
| 19:41.07 | HRPuffinstuf | not the real time of day, but good for lighting |
| 19:42.15 | RinArenna | The best way to handle day/night in triggers is probably a timer. |
| 19:42.18 | RinArenna | But I want to figure out how to get the time of day in the data editor to work. |
| 19:42.30 | RinArenna | But when I've tried, it hasn't done anything. |
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| 19:43.09 | HRPuffinstuf | it would only be a few lines in triggers.... my map has over 100k of triggers |
| 19:43.45 | RinArenna | Yeah. I understand that. But when I see something I can't figure out, my first instinct is to bludgeon it until it works. |
| 19:44.33 | HRPuffinstuf | has anyone made a beam weapon where the beam moves with the unit while firing? |
| 19:44.43 | RinArenna | Hmmm. I don't know. |
| 19:45.20 | HRPuffinstuf | its hard to find any units that shoot while moving |
| 19:45.26 | HRPuffinstuf | mine have to, theyre cars |
| 19:45.52 | HRPuffinstuf | but my beam stays still and only moves every half sec |
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| 19:46.06 | Ornloff | hey guys |
| 19:46.14 | HRPuffinstuf | hey |
| 19:46.23 | Ornloff | anyone know where to get the sc2mapster intro clip |
| 19:48.50 | currydevil | what about the diamonback HR? |
| 19:48.57 | currydevil | beams and moving while firing... |
| 19:49.10 | Ornloff | anyone? |
| 19:49.17 | currydevil | no |
| 19:49.20 | currydevil | not I. |
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| 19:51.28 | Ornloff | god damnit |
| 19:51.41 | Ornloff | would like to promote sc2mapster but no one knows where or how to dl the promotion videos for em |
| 19:51.55 | Ornloff | f it. ill just record it. |
| 19:53.18 | HRPuffinstuf | currydevil, thx for the tip |
| 19:54.05 | HRPuffinstuf | ornloff, where did u see the video, cant u download it from there? |
| 19:54.29 | currydevil | Ornloff: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/1561-help-us-promote-sc2mapster/ |
| 19:54.44 | currydevil | it wasn't that hard bro, just search for it on mapster... |
| 19:54.46 | HRPuffinstuf | o there ya go... or u could download it from youtube |
| 19:54.49 | Ornloff | cant download |
| 19:54.53 | Ornloff | how do i dl it from youtube |
| 19:55.09 | currydevil | it's letting me dl fro mapster |
| 19:55.16 | currydevil | from* |
| 19:55.17 | HRPuffinstuf | try currydevils link first, but there are ways if u google it |
| 19:55.19 | Ornloff | im trying to use the last one |
| 19:55.45 | currydevil | click on the "introduction video" link for the last vid |
| 19:55.54 | currydevil | it has a DL button in the top right of the next page |
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| 19:56.12 | Ornloff | such an idiot. blind too. |
| 19:56.13 | Ornloff | lol |
| 19:56.16 | currydevil | np HR ;) |
| 19:56.19 | currydevil | lol |
| 19:57.43 | Ornloff | its not downloading |
| 19:57.44 | Ornloff | ? |
| 19:57.48 | HRPuffinstuf | if i can fix that beam, all i will need it to fix is a few of my missiles that dont lauch from the correct spot |
| 19:57.57 | Ornloff | i said download, it just goes to another window and plays it. |
| 19:58.21 | HRPuffinstuf | try right clicking? |
| 19:58.26 | HRPuffinstuf | save as? maybe |
| 19:58.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster Arthas- (~dasd@ip3-100.bon.riksnet.se) |
| 19:58.53 | Ornloff | nah, didn't come up with anything, just usin the first one. |
| 20:06.28 | HRPuffinstuf | i tried puttin the same .ogg in 2 different sounds, it still wont let me play them both at once ... (i want to play a song on 2 units, it wont let me becuase they are streaming .ogg, .wav would work, they are too big tho) |
| 20:06.56 | HRPuffinstuf | i dont think i can truly solve that unless blizz changed it |
| 20:07.03 | HRPuffinstuf | im just gonna have to work around |
| 20:07.35 | HRPuffinstuf | i had thought it was the sound duplication limit, but found out its because its streaming |
| 20:10.13 | RinArenna | Darn. I thought it would work. |
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| 20:20.13 | HRPuffinstuf | it seems like it has the same problem even if your just playing the sound to one person, like normal music |
| 20:21.17 | HRPuffinstuf | i wonder if soundtracks have the same problem, i think they do, i kinda remember my music would cut out sometimes |
| 20:21.52 | HRPuffinstuf | you can play one song to all people, but if u give option to listen to different songs, and they end up on same song at different times, one crashes |
| 20:22.13 | HRPuffinstuf | almost a bug isnt it |
| 20:27.41 | currydevil | Ornloff: did you click the download button in the top right a second time? |
| 20:28.00 | currydevil | on the new page anyways. |
| 20:29.21 | HRPuffinstuf | i think he solved it curry |
| 20:35.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster DarkRevenant (~DarkReven@ip72-197-184-165.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 20:35.08 | DarkRevenant | I AM NOT DEAD |
| 20:36.34 | EternalWraith | DarkRevenant: :( |
| 20:36.38 | EternalWraith | ;p |
| 20:36.43 | DarkRevenant | wat |
| 20:37.06 | DarkRevenant | oh you read my post? |
| 20:37.27 | EternalWraith | Not about that. I was trying to say that Im sad to realize that you are not dead. |
| 20:37.28 | Arthas- | HeyRevolver |
| 20:37.30 | Arthas- | around? |
| 20:37.32 | Arthas- | ~seen HeyRevolver |
| 20:37.42 | purl | heyrevolver is currently on #sc2mapster (3h 59m 4s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 1h 53m 59s, last said: 'Scanners OWNS'. |
| 20:37.43 | DarkRevenant | assuming |
| 20:37.45 | DarkRevenant | you thought i was dead |
| 20:37.49 | DarkRevenant | and you are unhappy that i am alive |
| 20:38.01 | DarkRevenant | meaning you probably hate me and called for an assassin |
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| 20:38.51 | EternalWraith | Revenants dont die I suppose:/. Or the assassin I hired sucks. Btw, When are you doing more reviews? |
| 20:39.15 | DarkRevenant | i'm going to |
| 20:39.19 | DarkRevenant | post the next one today |
| 20:39.24 | DarkRevenant | Bounty Hunters |
| 20:39.39 | DarkRevenant | then later in the week i'll push out The Sorcerer's Defense |
| 20:40.35 | EternalWraith | I heard Sorcerer`s defence is pretty cool, but crashes a lot. Riley sent it to Blizz contest. I wonder if it kept crashing for them. |
| 20:40.44 | EternalWraith | They would have thought wtf. |
| 20:40.49 | EternalWraith | And discarded it |
| 20:41.07 | DarkRevenant | yeah |
| 20:41.18 | DarkRevenant | i gave it a bunch of points off for crashing |
| 20:41.22 | DarkRevenant | but it still makes ends meet |
| 20:41.23 | EternalWraith | So anyway, do you think I was too dramatic in that post? |
| 20:41.39 | DarkRevenant | probably, yes |
| 20:42.16 | EternalWraith | Ok |
| 20:42.18 | EternalWraith | oh well |
| 20:42.20 | DarkRevenant | OH WHAT THE CRAP |
| 20:42.30 | DarkRevenant | sorcerer's defense was 1.2 when i played it the first time yesterday |
| 20:42.41 | DarkRevenant | i played it a few more times and it was 1.3 after a while |
| 20:42.47 | DarkRevenant | now today i find it in the list... |
| 20:42.49 | DarkRevenant | 1.6 |
| 20:42.51 | DarkRevenant | what the fuck |
| 20:42.53 | DarkRevenant | damn it now i have to play again |
| 20:43.32 | EternalWraith | Lol. Probably bug fixes and such. Dont you already have a general idea of it by now? |
| 20:43.39 | DarkRevenant | of course |
| 20:43.43 | DarkRevenant | but crashing is a major problem |
| 20:43.47 | DarkRevenant | i need to know if its fixed or not |
| 20:45.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~IceChat7@ip-114-201.static.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 20:45.26 | Bibendus | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/13655-black-mask-without-fog-of-war/ |
| 20:45.28 | Bibendus | :O |
| 20:49.22 | EternalWraith | Btw Bibendus, Is your avatar your real life pic? |
| 20:49.30 | Bibendus | yep |
| 20:49.32 | Bibendus | and no |
| 20:49.36 | Bibendus | I'm not a yellow asian |
| 20:49.37 | Bibendus | xD |
| 20:50.07 | Bibendus | why should I use a photo of someone other? :D |
| 20:50.22 | Helral | a purple one then? |
| 20:50.26 | EternalWraith | Ah. You look cute *wink wink* |
| 20:50.29 | EternalWraith | ;p |
| 20:50.40 | Sevenix | disabling fog of war cant be that hard can it? |
| 20:50.56 | Sevenix | like.. quite sure there is an option for it |
| 20:51.28 | RodOfNOD | any sc1 game pros on atm? |
| 20:53.28 | Bibendus | oh shitz |
| 20:53.36 | Bibendus | GHEYY |
| 20:53.40 | Bibendus | xD |
| 20:53.55 | Bibendus | i think i look nerd |
| 20:53.57 | Bibendus | as rodrigo |
| 20:53.58 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:54.11 | EternalWraith | FUUU. I was joking XD. or was I o.0,,,No no no , I was joking;p |
| 20:54.28 | Bibendus | seven |
| 20:54.32 | Bibendus | its not soo easy :D |
| 20:54.36 | Bibendus | if you disable fog of war |
| 20:54.39 | Bibendus | u disable black mask too |
| 20:54.39 | Bibendus | :| |
| 20:54.54 | DarkRevenant | apparently |
| 20:54.58 | DarkRevenant | the map thing says 1.6 |
| 20:55.01 | DarkRevenant | but it was really 1.2 |
| 20:55.03 | DarkRevenant | what the hell |
| 20:55.06 | DarkRevenant | i was playing 1.3 yesterday |
| 20:55.08 | Bibendus | 1.6 what? |
| 20:55.09 | Bibendus | xD |
| 20:55.11 | DarkRevenant | and the one in the list is clearly 1.2 |
| 20:55.16 | DarkRevenant | but the name said 1.6 |
| 20:55.19 | DarkRevenant | Sorcerer's Defense |
| 20:55.25 | Bibendus | oh |
| 20:55.25 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:55.29 | Bibendus | fuuck |
| 20:55.33 | Bibendus | revenant help me to find a way |
| 20:55.34 | DarkRevenant | 1.3 >>>> 1.2 |
| 20:55.36 | Bibendus | to disable fog of war |
| 20:55.38 | Bibendus | keeping black mask! |
| 20:55.50 | DarkRevenant | wat |
| 20:55.56 | DarkRevenant | just change fog color to black |
| 20:56.21 | Bibendus | i need to keep visibility |
| 20:56.24 | Bibendus | not the opposite xD |
| 20:56.34 | Bibendus | imagine all black |
| 20:56.37 | Bibendus | when u explore a region |
| 20:56.40 | Bibendus | it remains explored |
| 20:56.46 | DarkRevenant | only way |
| 20:56.49 | DarkRevenant | is |
| 20:56.51 | Bibendus | triggerz? |
| 20:56.52 | DarkRevenant | adding visibility modifiers |
| 20:56.55 | Bibendus | sigh |
| 20:56.56 | DarkRevenant | for each unit |
| 20:57.00 | DarkRevenant | that passes by an area |
| 20:57.10 | Bibendus | why on units |
| 20:57.15 | DarkRevenant | whatever |
| 20:57.18 | DarkRevenant | just make a big 2D array |
| 20:57.20 | DarkRevenant | for each map cell |
| 20:57.23 | Bibendus | ye |
| 20:57.27 | DarkRevenant | if that cell is given vision |
| 20:57.31 | DarkRevenant | add a visibility modifier there |
| 20:57.31 | Bibendus | fucking doing it :| |
| 20:57.41 | Sevenix | Bibendus that sounds strange, quite sure even sc1 had the option to simply turn of the fog of war |
| 20:57.45 | Bibendus | hoping that won't make the game even more laggy |
| 20:57.45 | Sevenix | off" |
| 20:57.55 | Bibendus | mmm dun remember |
| 20:58.01 | DarkRevenant | uh |
| 20:58.01 | Bibendus | ye on wc3 too maybe |
| 20:58.03 | DarkRevenant | sevenix |
| 20:58.05 | Bibendus | cause it was different |
| 20:58.08 | DarkRevenant | what he's trying to do |
| 20:58.12 | DarkRevenant | is the |
| 20:58.13 | IDEATH | how do you change the colors of units |
| 20:58.16 | DarkRevenant | BLACK MASK EVERYWHERE |
| 20:58.18 | Bibendus | it was the default setting of multiplayer game |
| 20:58.24 | DarkRevenant | BUT WHEN YOU REVEAL IT, YOU CAN SEE THAT PART FOREVER |
| 20:58.24 | Sevenix | yes.. what about it DarkRevenant? |
| 20:58.36 | Sevenix | what you describe is Fog of War = Off |
| 20:58.38 | Bibendus | i think u could disable just fog of war on wc3 |
| 20:58.40 | Bibendus | but i m not sure |
| 20:58.54 | IDEATH | how do you change the colors of units? |
| 20:59.01 | DarkRevenant | actor message |
| 20:59.02 | Bibendus | on sc2 disabling fog of war disables black mask too |
| 20:59.03 | DarkRevenant | set tint |
| 20:59.16 | DarkRevenant | try the data editor |
| 20:59.18 | Sevenix | That's wierd Bibendus.. gonna look into it a bit |
| 20:59.28 | DarkRevenant | thered |
| 20:59.31 | DarkRevenant | fog settings |
| 20:59.31 | Bibendus | did that with triggers |
| 20:59.33 | DarkRevenant | in datedit |
| 20:59.34 | Bibendus | mm lets see |
| 20:59.37 | RinArenna | Man, it feels so weird changing so many triggers into actions. =\ |
| 20:59.42 | Bibendus | mmmm |
| 20:59.46 | Bibendus | maybe |
| 20:59.48 | Bibendus | transparent fog |
| 21:00.49 | RinArenna | Have you tried disabling fog of war then enabling black mask afterwords? |
| 21:01.20 | Bibendus | yep |
| 21:01.22 | HRPuffinstuf | ya directx needs to add some alpha fog, im tired of seeing blue mountains... i have a vertex shader that does transparent fog |
| 21:01.26 | Bibendus | tried |
| 21:01.36 | RinArenna | Damn. |
| 21:01.36 | HRPuffinstuf | prolly not what u r talkin about |
| 21:01.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rodrigo (464f4549@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.79.69.73) |
| 21:01.56 | Rodrigo | Who wants to play Nexus Censored-Word Wars? |
| 21:01.57 | Bibendus | its kinda weird |
| 21:02.07 | Bibendus | they should be managed differently |
| 21:02.11 | RinArenna | Yeah. |
| 21:02.12 | Bibendus | lolz |
| 21:02.17 | RinArenna | Well, no and yes. |
| 21:02.41 | RinArenna | Basically fog of war is considered two things. Explored terrain, unexplored terrain, and visible terrain. |
| 21:02.45 | Bibendus | this fog is soo white now xD |
| 21:02.46 | RinArenna | Er, three things. |
| 21:02.46 | RinArenna | ... |
| 21:02.47 | ultraviolent | Who is responsible for those stupid Category Symbols? |
| 21:02.51 | ultraviolent | they make no sense |
| 21:02.55 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:02.59 | RinArenna | Blizzard is. |
| 21:03.01 | Bibendus | u mean in map? |
| 21:03.04 | Bibendus | on mapster? |
| 21:03.12 | ultraviolent | on mapster |
| 21:03.12 | Sevenix | Bibendus, in Map Options you can se the fog of war, tried pressing the modify Button there? |
| 21:03.18 | Bibendus | i think vjeus or sixen :D |
| 21:03.19 | Sevenix | gets you into the data editor |
| 21:03.22 | Bibendus | yes |
| 21:03.23 | Bibendus | i modified it |
| 21:03.28 | RinArenna | They're the same Category symbols as you have in the editor, Ultra. |
| 21:03.35 | Bibendus | i ll try |
| 21:03.37 | Bibendus | addin an alpha |
| 21:03.40 | Bibendus | to the fog |
| 21:03.43 | RinArenna | So, it's Blizzard's fault. |
| 21:04.10 | Sevenix | dont think that will work Bibendus, units arent even redndered if they are in fog of war |
| 21:04.24 | Bibendus | maybe alpha fog |
| 21:04.26 | Bibendus | who knows .D |
| 21:04.40 | Bibendus | OH SHIT |
| 21:04.40 | Bibendus | wait |
| 21:04.41 | Bibendus | ! |
| 21:04.51 | RodOfNOD | anyone know what the behavior - under construction does - its on the missile turret, photon cannon, spore and sensor tower? |
| 21:05.12 | Sevenix | RodOfNOD think it is used to check for cancel buildings |
| 21:05.25 | RodOfNOD | and do what> |
| 21:05.31 | Bibendus | ooooooh fuck |
| 21:05.34 | Bibendus | soo disappointed |
| 21:05.40 | Bibendus | the fog was actually invisible |
| 21:05.49 | Bibendus | but still no rendering of hidden units :| |
| 21:05.50 | Sevenix | when you press cancel button it probably checks if the unit has Under Construction behavior on, if so it cancels the buidling and refunds |
| 21:05.51 | Bibendus | actors |
| 21:06.07 | RodOfNOD | are not all units refunded money? buildings.... |
| 21:06.18 | Bibendus | thats only |
| 21:06.23 | Bibendus | on turrets? |
| 21:06.26 | Sevenix | you cant refund a building once its completed now can you =) |
| 21:06.26 | RodOfNOD | its ONLY on those 4 buildings |
| 21:06.31 | Sevenix | oh? |
| 21:06.33 | HRPuffinstuf | does anyone know why i cant find the .ogg files in the mpq for the jukebox music tracks? are they hidden or am i lookin in the wrong place |
| 21:06.35 | Bibendus | not all turrets? |
| 21:06.39 | Bibendus | bunkers? |
| 21:06.43 | RodOfNOD | not bunker |
| 21:06.46 | RodOfNOD | just those 4 |
| 21:06.49 | Bibendus | zerg ground turret? |
| 21:07.05 | Sevenix | may just be some crap remnant behaviour then |
| 21:07.06 | HRPuffinstuf | cause i could not find them, there has to be hidden files or another mpq im not finding |
| 21:07.12 | RodOfNOD | missile turret sensor tower photon cannon and spore |
| 21:07.13 | Sevenix | what does the behaviour editor say? |
| 21:07.24 | Bibendus | did u add the campaign reference HRPuffinstuf |
| 21:07.37 | Bibendus | fuck thats strange |
| 21:07.42 | Bibendus | both zerg towers should have it |
| 21:07.47 | RodOfNOD | i dont know much about behaviors so loooking at the editor has so far been not much help |
| 21:07.51 | Bibendus | not just the spore |
| 21:07.51 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:07.52 | HRPuffinstuf | im trying to export the actualy ogg files, from the mpq |
| 21:08.02 | Bibendus | why do u want to know that |
| 21:08.03 | Bibendus | however' :D |
| 21:08.08 | Sevenix | Bibendus, try setting the grey mask reveal radius to 4 btw |
| 21:08.09 | RodOfNOD | nope just spore crawler |
| 21:08.25 | RodOfNOD | cuz i am literallyu going through every bit of data in the game |
| 21:08.33 | RodOfNOD | and shit i dont understand i want to |
| 21:08.39 | RodOfNOD | its for the sc1 remake |
| 21:08.41 | HRPuffinstuf | before i wanted to check the song lengths, now im just wondering about the encoding bitrate, and wondering why i cant find the ogg files |
| 21:08.48 | Bibendus | the reveal mask |
| 21:08.56 | Bibendus | reveals areas out of sight |
| 21:09.00 | Bibendus | i mean |
| 21:09.01 | RodOfNOD | HRPuffinstuf its easy to export ogg files or anything |
| 21:09.01 | Bibendus | doesnt reveal |
| 21:09.06 | Bibendus | explores areas out of sight |
| 21:09.09 | Bibendus | but don't reveal them |
| 21:09.13 | HRPuffinstuf | i cant find the files tho |
| 21:09.27 | HRPuffinstuf | im just sayin, they may be hidden for drm purposes |
| 21:09.41 | RodOfNOD | which file u want |
| 21:09.43 | RodOfNOD | ill tell u whre it is |
| 21:09.46 | Bibendus | the transparent fog was soo nice |
| 21:09.46 | Bibendus | :| |
| 21:10.31 | HRPuffinstuf | Jukebox_Music00 Sound Assets + (Assets\Music\Jukebox\Jukebox_JemsSong.ogg) |
| 21:10.47 | HRPuffinstuf | says its in liberty mod but i dont see it |
| 21:11.18 | Sevenix | RodOfNOD |
| 21:11.23 | Sevenix | I foudn what your behaviour does I think |
| 21:11.31 | RodOfNOD | its there HRPuffinstuf |
| 21:11.35 | RodOfNOD | im looking at it |
| 21:11.36 | Sevenix | units under construction seem to have lower sight range. |
| 21:11.37 | Bibendus | did u add the campaign reference |
| 21:11.38 | RodOfNOD | cool Sevenix |
| 21:11.38 | Bibendus | HRP? |
| 21:11.50 | HRPuffinstuf | which mpq |
| 21:11.54 | Sevenix | they only have 4 |
| 21:11.56 | Bibendus | Campaign |
| 21:12.01 | Bibendus | add all of them |
| 21:12.02 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:12.03 | Bibendus | they are 4 |
| 21:12.05 | RodOfNOD | its where they said itw s |
| 21:12.06 | Sevenix | its in teh gameplay data |
| 21:12.06 | RodOfNOD | liberty |
| 21:12.08 | Bibendus | oh u are searching |
| 21:12.12 | Bibendus | inside the mpqs |
| 21:12.12 | HRPuffinstuf | ya but how do u export it from editor |
| 21:12.16 | Bibendus | try to search them in the editor |
| 21:12.17 | RodOfNOD | all i did was export EVERYTHUING |
| 21:12.20 | RodOfNOD | and its there |
| 21:12.23 | RodOfNOD | liberty mod |
| 21:12.26 | Bibendus | u should have the option |
| 21:12.30 | Bibendus | select and right click |
| 21:12.38 | RodOfNOD | that is true |
| 21:12.40 | Bibendus | u can do it with models and textures |
| 21:12.44 | HRPuffinstuf | maybe because u exported everything idk, ill keep lookin thx |
| 21:12.47 | Bibendus | i think u can do it with sounds too |
| 21:12.59 | EternalWraith | I want to play Diablo 3:( or Mortal Kombat 9:( |
| 21:13.01 | RodOfNOD | Sevenix ok so does it increase or decrease the vision? |
| 21:13.06 | EternalWraith | Already bored of Sc2:/ |
| 21:13.27 | Bibendus | help me making DK |
| 21:13.30 | Bibendus | and u ll have a lot of fun |
| 21:13.31 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:13.37 | Bibendus | damn i m full of great ideas |
| 21:13.40 | Bibendus | for that project |
| 21:13.49 | Bibendus | and the editor is soo fucking stupid |
| 21:14.27 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.27 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.32 | Bibendus | why the hell that should not work |
| 21:14.32 | Bibendus | :| |
| 21:14.43 | Sevenix | RodOfNOD it sets it to 4, you tell me :P |
| 21:14.46 | EternalWraith | Yeah, but it`ll take forever, and in your case, someone will just steal all your hard work. That damn thread on Mapster pisses me off |
| 21:14.51 | Sevenix | I suppose photon cannons have more than that normaly |
| 21:14.59 | RodOfNOD | k ty Sevenix |
| 21:15.07 | RodOfNOD | that helps alot |
| 21:15.09 | Rodrigo | do someone know how to store characters like "é" on strings? |
| 21:15.10 | Sevenix | its in the "gameplay data" data |
| 21:15.15 | DarkRevenant | eternal |
| 21:15.22 | Bibendus | OOH FUCK |
| 21:15.28 | Bibendus | cause |
| 21:15.29 | EternalWraith | DarkRevenant: Dont lecture me xd |
| 21:15.32 | Bibendus | they are revealing turrets! |
| 21:15.35 | DarkRevenant | logically |
| 21:15.40 | Bibendus | so it disables revealing |
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| 21:15.42 | Sevenix | I suppose it was added to make photonrush etc harder |
| 21:15.43 | DarkRevenant | how is that one thread going to be so catastrophic? |
| 21:15.43 | Bibendus | while constructing |
| 21:16.01 | Rodrigo | does someone want to play Nexus Censored-Word Wars? |
| 21:16.03 | Bibendus | missle turret, photon cannon, spore |
| 21:16.05 | Bibendus | = revealers |
| 21:16.15 | HRPuffinstuf | ooooh i found the wavs files on rock n roll racing red asphault for PS |
| 21:16.19 | Bibendus | nope i m too good with typing games |
| 21:16.20 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:16.23 | DarkRevenant | i'm willing to test/showoff my physics system... |
| 21:16.30 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 21:16.38 | EternalWraith | DarkRevenant: Lets just say the more people that know. The less security we have. And mapster in the main editing site for sc2 on the web, so yeah. I dont feel comfortable about it |
| 21:16.54 | Sevenix | Bibendus, perhaps you can modify a revleare to remove fog only and then make it giant, and then place one for each player? =) |
| 21:17.03 | Sevenix | revealer unit/doodad" |
| 21:17.12 | DarkRevenant | there's enough pros and cons on each side that the only person who can tip the vote |
| 21:17.14 | Bibendus | then it would reveal all |
| 21:17.15 | Bibendus | xD |
| 21:17.18 | RinArenna | He can't, because if you remove fog it removes black mask as well. |
| 21:17.18 | DarkRevenant | is sixen/vjeux |
| 21:17.42 | Sevenix | Bibendus not sure about that, perhaps there is some tag to enable it to not remove black mask |
| 21:17.51 | Bibendus | nope |
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| 21:17.56 | Bibendus | the trigger is soo noobish |
| 21:17.57 | Bibendus | 2 options |
| 21:17.57 | Ousnius | suuuup!!! |
| 21:17.57 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:18.06 | Bibendus | not many ways to do that |
| 21:18.18 | HRPuffinstuf | i just dont know if its worth adding megabytes to map size to add a few new songs, what do u guys think |
| 21:18.27 | Rodrigo | how does sc2mapster popular maps work? NWW is 1 week banned and it's still on the top |
| 21:18.28 | HRPuffinstuf | for a battle racing map? |
| 21:18.52 | Ousnius | I think sc2ranks and mapster popularity is kidna bugged |
| 21:18.59 | Bibendus | dunno |
| 21:19.03 | RinArenna | Because the map is still popular? |
| 21:19.05 | Bibendus | the amount of playis seem wrong |
| 21:19.07 | Bibendus | 500 max |
| 21:19.17 | Rodrigo | well, the map is banned for 1 week! |
| 21:19.17 | Ousnius | and it doesn't find my map |
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| 21:19.25 | Rodrigo | 1 week with 0 games played |
| 21:19.32 | RinArenna | Oh, and long time no chat Rodrigo. =D |
| 21:19.34 | HRPuffinstuf | all im sayin is, 4 players should equal 4 plays and 8 players should equal 8 plays |
| 21:19.59 | Rodrigo | hey |
| 21:20.12 | Rodrigo | HRPuffinstuf, I want to play ur map |
| 21:20.13 | RinArenna | I'm still working on my Third Person Shooter map. |
| 21:20.22 | HRPuffinstuf | 1 player maps have an 8x advantage over me |
| 21:20.34 | HRPuffinstuf | wait lemme upload this update |
| 21:20.37 | HRPuffinstuf | then ill race u |
| 21:20.40 | Rodrigo | k |
| 21:20.42 | Ousnius | I jsut watched a few "angry video game fag" videos |
| 21:20.44 | Rodrigo | invite me |
| 21:20.47 | Ousnius | I couldnt stop laughing XDDD |
| 21:20.57 | DarkRevenant | also |
| 21:20.59 | DarkRevenant | add music |
| 21:21.04 | DarkRevenant | in a dependency file |
| 21:21.14 | DarkRevenant | and add it to the map via dependency |
| 21:21.26 | DarkRevenant | so that the map size is not inflated |
| 21:21.41 | Bibendus | oh lol |
| 21:21.45 | Bibendus | i was thinking |
| 21:21.49 | Bibendus | to a stupid trigger |
| 21:22.00 | Bibendus | lollllll |
| 21:22.08 | Bibendus | to detect movement of a unit by X |
| 21:22.15 | Bibendus | if i place a region on the unit |
| 21:22.22 | HRPuffinstuf | how do u make a whisper that doesnt open a new chat window, i dont know irc, im using this web client |
| 21:22.29 | Bibendus | and when the unit leaves the region i place the region again on the unit |
| 21:22.37 | Sevenix | Bibendus |
| 21:22.37 | Bibendus | i can detect the movement with precision |
| 21:22.38 | Sevenix | Visibility - Disable Black Mask visibility |
| 21:22.39 | Bibendus | right? |
| 21:22.40 | Sevenix | ^^ |
| 21:22.44 | Bibendus | ye i m using it |
| 21:22.51 | Bibendus | but i need the black mask |
| 21:22.56 | Bibendus | not the fog of war |
| 21:22.58 | Sevenix | Visibility - Enable Fog Of War visibility |
| 21:23.01 | Sevenix | ^^ |
| 21:23.03 | Bibendus | ye |
| 21:23.05 | Bibendus | but it doesnt work |
| 21:23.05 | Sevenix | thats the trigger you want anyway |
| 21:23.22 | Bibendus | if u disable fog of war |
| 21:23.25 | Bibendus | u disable black mask too |
| 21:23.25 | Bibendus | :| |
| 21:23.29 | Bibendus | oh i was trying |
| 21:23.35 | Sevenix | k |
| 21:23.38 | Bibendus | to make revealers |
| 21:23.41 | Bibendus | with the most efficient way |
| 21:24.23 | Bibendus | i create a unit |
| 21:24.29 | Bibendus | i create a region with the unit |
| 21:24.37 | Bibendus | when the unit leaves the region |
| 21:24.43 | RodOfNOD | Sevenix what exactly does reactor queue do for the behaviors please? |
| 21:24.49 | Rodrigo | is listening to some crazy podcast: http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/8/121/NWWPodcast.mp3 |
| 21:24.54 | Ousnius | Bibendus maybe in data editor |
| 21:25.08 | Ousnius | go to "Data for Fog of War" tab |
| 21:25.08 | Bibendus | i calculate the new sight and move again the region |
| 21:25.10 | Bibendus | on the unit |
| 21:25.19 | Bibendus | ye i m already here |
| 21:25.33 | Bibendus | that can't be done with fog of war data |
| 21:25.33 | Bibendus | :| |
| 21:25.36 | Sevenix | no idea really RodOfNOD =/ |
| 21:25.50 | Sevenix | well, it adds the second buildingqueue to the barraks |
| 21:26.01 | Bibendus | oh yes |
| 21:26.03 | Bibendus | the barracks reactor |
| 21:26.04 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:26.14 | Bibendus | allow double production then |
| 21:26.22 | Bibendus | however |
| 21:26.25 | Bibendus | all those problems |
| 21:26.31 | Bibendus | started because doodads created by triggers |
| 21:26.41 | Bibendus | are not explored correctly |
| 21:26.45 | Bibendus | when a unit comes nearby |
| 21:27.13 | Bibendus | but they are spotted when exploring the bottom left corner of the map :| |
| 21:27.16 | RodOfNOD | ty Bibendus |
| 21:27.32 | Bibendus | seven gave u the answer not me :D |
| 21:27.44 | Bibendus | i forgot what was a reactor |
| 21:27.45 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:28.04 | RodOfNOD | :> |
| 21:28.36 | RodOfNOD | can u think of a timed life unit in the game? |
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| 21:29.33 | Bibendus | what |
| 21:29.36 | Bibendus | timed life unit |
| 21:29.41 | Bibendus | oh any timed life |
| 21:29.45 | Bibendus | infested terran |
| 21:29.47 | Ousnius | lol Rodrigo |
| 21:29.49 | Bibendus | point defense drone |
| 21:29.52 | Ousnius | from where is this podcast? |
| 21:29.57 | Bibendus | raven turrets |
| 21:29.59 | Bibendus | auto turrets |
| 21:30.07 | Bibendus | spawnlings |
| 21:30.11 | RodOfNOD | ty |
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| 21:30.17 | Bibendus | wtf of name is the right one i dont know |
| 21:30.17 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:30.24 | Bibendus | the lings that come out from buildings |
| 21:30.53 | RodOfNOD | broodlings i think |
| 21:30.56 | Bibendus | ye |
| 21:30.58 | Bibendus | dont know |
| 21:31.00 | Bibendus | they are from broodlords |
| 21:31.11 | Bibendus | but i dont know if they are the same that come out from buildings |
| 21:31.20 | Ornloff | how do u put a youtube in the forum? |
| 21:31.31 | Ousnius | go to the youtube video page |
| 21:31.42 | Ousnius | and copy the embedding HTML code |
| 21:31.42 | Bibendus | the only way i found |
| 21:31.50 | Bibendus | was Markdown code |
| 21:31.52 | Ornloff | kk |
| 21:31.54 | Bibendus | and yes copy/paste |
| 21:31.56 | Bibendus | from youtube |
| 21:32.13 | Ousnius | does Safe HTML work? |
| 21:32.37 | RodOfNOD | Sure but u get no real sensitivity Ousnius |
| 21:32.41 | Ornloff | didn't work with the embedded code. |
| 21:32.48 | Bibendus | u must specify |
| 21:32.51 | Bibendus | Markdown code |
| 21:34.00 | Ornloff | isn't it something like <youtubevideo/> |
| 21:34.01 | Ornloff | or somethin |
| 21:34.10 | Orc | Zerg buildings spawn the same broodlings that broodlords do |
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| 21:34.56 | Bibendus | just copy paste |
| 21:35.06 | Bibendus | and specify that you are using MARKDOWN |
| 21:35.18 | Bibendus | bottom of the edit area |
| 21:35.24 | Rodrigo | Ousnius, this podcast is from the Creep Podcast |
| 21:35.25 | Bibendus | you should have a select |
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| 21:35.57 | Ousnius | k |
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| 21:37.02 | Ousnius | one question: |
| 21:37.10 | Ousnius | when I buy the blizzcon lviestream |
| 21:37.39 | Ousnius | can I watch a repetition of it later? |
| 21:37.43 | EternalWraith | DarkRevenant: So where have you been these days/Weeks?. You seemed rather scarce. Busy with irl stuff? |
| 21:37.52 | DarkRevenant | college |
| 21:37.54 | DarkRevenant | my map |
| 21:37.57 | DarkRevenant | my map, mostly |
| 21:38.00 | DarkRevenant | it's... really involved |
| 21:38.10 | DarkRevenant | you should see what i have done |
| 21:38.59 | DarkRevenant | but i'm spending the time to get good grades, too |
| 21:39.03 | EternalWraith | Ah. Is it a tps?. They seem so common these days though |
| 21:39.07 | DarkRevenant | 3.9 GPA |
| 21:39.11 | DarkRevenant | it's an isometric shooter |
| 21:39.25 | EternalWraith | Cool |
| 21:40.01 | EternalWraith | I suppose there is no rush. With the popularity system being the way it is and all that. I hope changes are made at some point |
| 21:40.12 | DarkRevenant | i'm working at full speed ahead |
| 21:40.26 | Fisker | Ousnius only for a limited time most likely |
| 21:40.46 | DarkRevenant | but so far, i'm not even close to alpha |
| 21:40.48 | Ousnius | but I don't ahve to watch it in the middle of the night @EU? xD |
| 21:41.01 | Fisker | likely not |
| 21:41.02 | DarkRevenant | and this is day... 17 |
| 21:41.06 | DarkRevenant | of production |
| 21:41.12 | DarkRevenant | and i've worked on the map in some way on every single day |
| 21:41.17 | Fisker | last year they had streams running for other timezones too |
| 21:41.28 | Fisker | of course that meant you would get the news half a day late but still |
| 21:41.46 | EternalWraith | DarkRevenant: Yeah. Wow. Editing in Sc2 is kinda a nightmare. I literally have to force myself to work on my own map sometimes. Progress is slow in some areas, but hey, thats GE |
| 21:42.29 | Ousnius | news arent that improtant |
| 21:42.30 | DarkRevenant | personally, i've been |
| 21:42.31 | Rodrigo | Does someone want to play NWW? I'm hosting the private match right now. Just add me: Rodrigo.881 |
| 21:42.32 | DarkRevenant | coping |
| 21:42.38 | DarkRevenant | GE has not limited me much in this case |
| 21:42.46 | DarkRevenant | maybe i'm just lucky |
| 21:43.03 | DarkRevenant | next step is making the interface |
| 21:43.12 | DarkRevenant | it will be... painful |
| 21:43.18 | DarkRevenant | i need custom artwork for everything |
| 21:43.24 | DarkRevenant | i hate the stock dialogs |
| 21:43.34 | DarkRevenant | especially since i need a spell WHEEL |
| 21:43.34 | EternalWraith | Google Images ;p..Well in most cases |
| 21:43.36 | DarkRevenant | not a spell BOX |
| 21:43.48 | DarkRevenant | google images for stock textures, maybe |
| 21:43.59 | DarkRevenant | but i will be throwing it together in other programs |
| 21:44.08 | DarkRevenant | i'll probably use paint.net and/or photoshop |
| 21:44.37 | DarkRevenant | i also need to make |
| 21:44.42 | DarkRevenant | a player model |
| 21:44.56 | DarkRevenant | i'll probably just end up using the Spectre, but i need to split him into a top and bottom half |
| 21:45.00 | DarkRevenant | and add a bunch of animations |
| 21:45.03 | DarkRevenant | strafe, backpedal |
| 21:45.08 | DarkRevenant | various spell casts and channels |
| 21:45.12 | DarkRevenant | etc |
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| 21:45.15 | EternalWraith | Thats gonna be hard |
| 21:45.19 | EternalWraith | or time consuming |
| 21:45.33 | DarkRevenant | i'm pretty good at animating stuff |
| 21:45.49 | DarkRevenant | it will probably take me an extended weekend |
| 21:45.49 | RinArenna | Which part of the Data editor do you chance a unit's target acquire range? |
| 21:46.08 | DarkRevenant | the animation is handled entirely through triggers, though, so |
| 21:46.15 | DarkRevenant | i don't have to worry about data editor for that |
| 21:46.27 | RinArenna | change* |
| 21:47.10 | Bibendus | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/13655-black-mask-without-fog-of-war/#p3 |
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| 21:47.44 | nolliepoper | Does the team varriants not set in the test document? |
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| 21:48.10 | WAR | Are people QQing about unlocked maps |
| 21:48.11 | WAR | ARE THEY |
| 21:48.16 | RodOfNOD | Bibendus what is ur goal? |
| 21:48.32 | Bibendus | giving permanent exploration |
| 21:48.41 | Bibendus | when an area is explored |
| 21:48.41 | nolliepoper | Whatsup RodOfNOD |
| 21:48.46 | Bibendus | it must remain explored |
| 21:48.48 | Bibendus | forever |
| 21:48.50 | RodOfNOD | did u turn off both black and fog? |
| 21:48.52 | nolliepoper | usually you chilling in the vent |
| 21:48.56 | Bibendus | y |
| 21:48.58 | RodOfNOD | nm nolliepoper |
| 21:49.00 | Bibendus | all visible |
| 21:49.00 | Bibendus | xD |
| 21:49.08 | RodOfNOD | and whats wrong? |
| 21:49.13 | Bibendus | imagine |
| 21:49.14 | Bibendus | all black |
| 21:49.19 | Bibendus | you explore an area |
| 21:49.27 | Bibendus | it becomes explored and u can see all inside that |
| 21:49.29 | RodOfNOD | u want command and conquer tiberian dawn |
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| 21:49.35 | Rodrigo | HRPuffinstuf, I would remove the radio option in your game. Antoine de Saint Exupery said that "In anything at all, perfection is finally attained not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away" |
| 21:49.36 | Bibendus | if u leave the area i want that the area remains explored |
| 21:49.40 | Icebane | and you guys thought you had lots of sparetime!! :D |
| 21:49.43 | Icebane | http://www.dorkly.com/video/3116/insane-mario-song |
| 21:49.52 | Icebane | Watch it and omg |
| 21:49.53 | Icebane | xD |
| 21:49.59 | RinArenna | Hmm, nice quote Rodrigo. |
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| 21:50.03 | DarkRevenant | rodrigo |
| 21:50.07 | DarkRevenant | am i the only one here besides you |
| 21:50.10 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:50.11 | DarkRevenant | who actually knows who that guy is |
| 21:50.18 | Rodrigo | lol |
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| 21:50.26 | RinArenna | ...Yes, DR, you two are. =| |
| 21:50.28 | nolliepoper | Sup Helral... |
| 21:50.47 | RodOfNOD | looking Bibendus |
| 21:50.54 | DarkRevenant | i read The Little Prince (translation of the original), by him |
| 21:50.59 | DarkRevenant | for sociology, of all thing |
| 21:51.00 | Bibendus | this is madness!!! |
| 21:51.21 | RinArenna | NO, BIBENDUS. THIS... IS... STARCRAFT! |
| 21:51.26 | Bibendus | no this is mario |
| 21:51.27 | Bibendus | xD |
| 21:51.42 | RinArenna | Lol |
| 21:51.42 | DarkRevenant | i disagree |
| 21:51.44 | DarkRevenant | THIS |
| 21:51.46 | DarkRevenant | IS |
| 21:51.47 | DarkRevenant | STARTA |
| 21:51.52 | RinArenna | Lol |
| 21:52.14 | DarkRevenant | HELLO GUYS, I'M SPEAKING IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE I'M A ROMAN |
| 21:52.23 | RinArenna | So, do any of you know where to change a unit's acquisition range? |
| 21:52.24 | DarkRevenant | I ONLY KNOW ONE SET OF LETTERS |
| 21:52.27 | Bibendus | lool |
| 21:52.46 | RinArenna | OH YEAH? WELL... i yell in lower case!!! |
| 21:53.02 | Rodrigo | DarkRevenant, The Little Prince is an AWESOME book |
| 21:53.04 | DarkRevenant | YELLING IS BAD FOR THE EARS, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED. |
| 21:53.21 | RodOfNOD | is black mask not even working atm Bibendus? |
| 21:53.26 | DarkRevenant | RODRIGO, I GOT AN A ON THE PAPER ON THAT BOOK |
| 21:53.41 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 21:53.43 | Bibendus | nope |
| 21:53.45 | Bibendus | i mean |
| 21:53.45 | Rodrigo | its one of my favorite books |
| 21:53.50 | Bibendus | black mask and fog of war seem related |
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| 21:53.59 | Bibendus | black mask seem a part of the fog of war |
| 21:54.02 | RodOfNOD | black mask appears to do nothing |
| 21:54.04 | Bibendus | if u disable fog of war even black mask goes |
| 21:54.08 | RodOfNOD | turn it on or off no difference |
| 21:54.16 | Bibendus | no it changes |
| 21:54.22 | Bibendus | but you must have fog of war enabled too |
| 21:54.37 | Bibendus | this song is fucking LOOONG |
| 21:54.38 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:54.40 | DarkRevenant | it's one of those rare books that you're like "oh whatever, i have to read it, i guess i must" |
| 21:54.42 | DarkRevenant | then you pick it up |
| 21:54.44 | DarkRevenant | start reading |
| 21:54.50 | DarkRevenant | and you don't fucking put it down until it's done |
| 21:55.08 | DarkRevenant | and afterwards, you are |
| 21:55.17 | DarkRevenant | "shit, that was fun" |
| 21:55.19 | RodOfNOD | i see no difference Bibendus |
| 21:55.23 | Ihatebanelings | how do u stop an animation at a specific time, in the data editor / actors? |
| 21:55.28 | Bibendus | yes there is |
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| 21:55.30 | Bibendus | maybe |
| 21:55.32 | RodOfNOD | Untitled Trigger 001 |
| 21:55.32 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.32 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.32 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.32 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.32 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.32 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.34 | Bibendus | u must set the global settings of the map |
| 21:55.37 | RodOfNOD | does nothing |
| 21:55.38 | Bibendus | to black mask |
| 21:55.51 | Bibendus | actually |
| 21:55.54 | Bibendus | you must enable |
| 21:55.59 | Bibendus | its the opposite of what u think |
| 21:56.03 | Bibendus | enable black mask visiblity |
| 21:56.10 | Bibendus | means u can see the black mask |
| 21:56.11 | Bibendus | xD |
| 21:56.14 | nolliepoper | Hectic map support chat |
| 21:56.18 | Helral | can't you disable FoW with Black Mask Enabled? |
| 21:56.23 | Bibendus | no |
| 21:56.24 | RinArenna | Nope. =\ |
| 21:56.30 | Bibendus | that fucking suckz |
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| 21:57.33 | nolliepoper | WHY NO TEAMS TRIGGERS WORKS |
| 21:57.40 | Ihatebanelings | Anyone know how to stop an animation at a specific time, in the data editor / actors? |
| 21:58.13 | EternalWraith | Bibendus: Do you swear this much in real life? You scare me:( |
| 21:58.16 | EternalWraith | ;p |
| 21:58.36 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:58.42 | Bibendus | i m complaining a bit |
| 21:58.44 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:58.49 | Bibendus | cuz when i want to do something epic |
| 21:58.50 | Bibendus | i can't |
| 21:59.10 | Bibendus | fuckz |
| 21:59.13 | Bibendus | lets go for triggers |
| 21:59.13 | Bibendus | ! |
| 21:59.33 | Bibendus | tons of revealers |
| 21:59.33 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:59.36 | nolliepoper | Since when did "Pick each player in (Players on team 1) and do (actions)" not work? |
| 21:59.38 | EternalWraith | Nah you can. But you must be in a relaxed state of mind. You get emotionally worked up. Then everything falls apart and you cant think straight.;p |
| 21:59.48 | RinArenna | ...I don't get it... How did I manage to get the marine not to auto-acquire zerglings..? |
| 21:59.58 | DarkRevenant | how would you like it if |
| 22:00.01 | RodOfNOD | u will have to do it using a periodic Bibendus |
| 22:00.01 | DarkRevenant | blizzard came up to you |
| 22:00.03 | DarkRevenant | and said |
| 22:00.05 | DarkRevenant | YOU MAY NOT SAY |
| 22:00.19 | RodOfNOD | reveal unit vision remove fog of war for his region he can see |
| 22:00.42 | RodOfNOD | i would do it this way Bibendus |
| 22:00.45 | Bibendus | periodic? |
| 22:00.48 | RodOfNOD | create a unit that can see the same area he can |
| 22:00.49 | Bibendus | not the thing i said before? |
| 22:00.49 | wOlfLinG | Hey, Eternal, i'm on your side on that locked map thread. The locking system right now is really bad, but that doesn't give people the right to open them :( |
| 22:01.00 | RodOfNOD | but has no model |
| 22:01.02 | RodOfNOD | or its tiny |
| 22:01.13 | nolliepoper | Rod you lie to me? |
| 22:01.14 | RodOfNOD | then every second or so create a unit if there is none within the same distance |
| 22:01.20 | RodOfNOD | lie to u nolliepoper? |
| 22:01.27 | nolliepoper | Yea the other day |
| 22:01.30 | RodOfNOD | about what? |
| 22:01.36 | RinArenna | Rod, I don't think that's what he's talking about. |
| 22:01.46 | RinArenna | Or wait |
| 22:01.48 | RinArenna | No, no it is. |
| 22:01.48 | nolliepoper | In vent the other day you lie to me? |
| 22:01.49 | RodOfNOD | he wants to ahve it so an area is never fog of war once he moves there |
| 22:02.01 | Bibendus | do u mean |
| 22:02.04 | RinArenna | But that would create too many units. |
| 22:02.05 | Bibendus | using units to reveal areas? |
| 22:02.07 | DarkRevenant | You may not say any of these words: fuck, shit, piss, dick, bitch, nigger, crap, damn, fag, vagina, penis (etc.), cock, chink, nazi, god, jesus (etc.), jew, etc. etc., or dyke |
| 22:02.08 | RodOfNOD | i dont remember talking to u on vent nolliepoper |
| 22:02.09 | nolliepoper | It's no big deal if so. |
| 22:02.14 | DarkRevenant | the list would be massive |
| 22:02.17 | Bibendus | there are revealers |
| 22:02.17 | RodOfNOD | ull have to refresh my memorty |
| 22:02.19 | DarkRevenant | and would appear unprofessional |
| 22:02.21 | Bibendus | why should i use units :D |
| 22:02.23 | DarkRevenant | so the system sucks overall |
| 22:02.35 | Bibendus | dyke pwn |
| 22:02.36 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:02.41 | Bibendus | what bad wors was that |
| 22:02.45 | Bibendus | to ban rodrigo's map? |
| 22:02.51 | RodOfNOD | let me see if we have what we need to add to a region Bibendus |
| 22:02.53 | Bibendus | what does it mean |
| 22:02.55 | DarkRevenant | dyke was one of many, apparently |
| 22:02.58 | DarkRevenant | maybe one of the words was |
| 22:03.00 | DarkRevenant | Jewish |
| 22:03.02 | DarkRevenant | or |
| 22:03.04 | DarkRevenant | Cock |
| 22:03.07 | DarkRevenant | or |
| 22:03.09 | DarkRevenant | Fag |
| 22:03.10 | Bibendus | lol it seems like |
| 22:03.10 | Bibendus | fag |
| 22:03.14 | RodOfNOD | how is jewish a bad word? |
| 22:03.15 | DarkRevenant | seriously, fag's dictionary definition |
| 22:03.21 | DarkRevenant | jewish has religious connotations |
| 22:03.23 | DarkRevenant | blizzard banned those |
| 22:03.46 | RinArenna | Bibendus. You could use arrays like another person was talking about. |
| 22:03.52 | Bibendus | i already use them |
| 22:03.53 | DarkRevenant | the annoyingling |
| 22:03.56 | DarkRevenant | has the worst words ever |
| 22:03.58 | RinArenna | Oh, okay. |
| 22:03.59 | DarkRevenant | i had shit like |
| 22:04.00 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.05 | Bibendus | doin the trigger way |
| 22:04.09 | Bibendus | i m scared about the 16k revealers |
| 22:04.10 | Bibendus | :| |
| 22:04.12 | RinArenna | So they reveal areas the right way? |
| 22:04.13 | Bibendus | and/or regions |
| 22:04.15 | RinArenna | Well, yeah... |
| 22:04.21 | Bibendus | haem now i have a little problem |
| 22:04.23 | Bibendus | with the region |
| 22:04.26 | RodOfNOD | i got it Bibendus |
| 22:04.28 | RodOfNOD | its easy |
| 22:04.30 | Bibendus | i use create region XY |
| 22:04.35 | RinArenna | You don't need tons of regions though. |
| 22:04.37 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.38 | RinArenna | Just 1. |
| 22:04.40 | Bibendus | but it doesnt go well :D |
| 22:04.47 | Rodrigo | just remember that the "many offensive words" in my map was less than 15 bad words, in a 32,000 words dictionary |
| 22:04.48 | Bibendus | add region to region? :O |
| 22:04.52 | RodOfNOD | regions are not just squares |
| 22:04.55 | RodOfNOD | they can be irregular |
| 22:04.57 | Bibendus | oh |
| 22:04.58 | Bibendus | u want |
| 22:05.01 | Bibendus | a single region with many shapes |
| 22:05.02 | Bibendus | k |
| 22:05.05 | RodOfNOD | so u hjust add the regionover time that he can see to one region |
| 22:05.05 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 22:05.07 | RodOfNOD | that shoulddoit |
| 22:05.09 | Bibendus | that should be more efficient but |
| 22:05.14 | Bibendus | its threated as a single region |
| 22:05.19 | Bibendus | checkboards? |
| 22:05.20 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:05.31 | RodOfNOD | Rodrigo the fact that we found like 10 in 5minutes mean u needed to actually look atur dictionary |
| 22:05.38 | DarkRevenant | you know it's bad when i get stuff like Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis |
| 22:05.42 | RodOfNOD | yes Bibendus |
| 22:05.58 | RinArenna | It'd be easier to use an array to handle the position of revealers. Multiply the number of the array with the width of a region to get the x position, etc. Move the region, create the revealer over that area, then continue. |
| 22:06.02 | Bibendus | dunno |
| 22:06.04 | Rodrigo | when blizzard banned the game, just 2 folders were being used from the dictionary, which is in total, less than 15 bad words. |
| 22:06.05 | Bibendus | maybe u can run into them |
| 22:06.09 | Bibendus | just traveling diagonally |
| 22:06.10 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:06.12 | RodOfNOD | howis that easier RinArenna? |
| 22:06.22 | RodOfNOD | one region |
| 22:06.25 | RodOfNOD | add vision of unit |
| 22:06.26 | RodOfNOD | over time |
| 22:06.42 | Bibendus | add vision of unit? |
| 22:06.44 | RinArenna | Because, you don't have many regions. Just move the region around and add revealers to positions. |
| 22:06.44 | Bibendus | i don't use units |
| 22:06.49 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 22:06.52 | RodOfNOD | add vision of whatever u want |
| 22:06.57 | RodOfNOD | point is whatever the player can see |
| 22:06.57 | Bibendus | oh! |
| 22:06.58 | Bibendus | actually |
| 22:07.00 | RodOfNOD | thats the vision u add |
| 22:07.00 | RinArenna | You don't need to create a region for every rebealer. |
| 22:07.03 | Bibendus | i like the moving region part! |
| 22:07.06 | RinArenna | revealer* |
| 22:07.09 | Bibendus | thats more efficient |
| 22:07.12 | Bibendus | that the thing i was doin |
| 22:07.24 | RodOfNOD | rin |
| 22:07.25 | Bibendus | creating temporary regionz |
| 22:07.26 | RodOfNOD | ONE region |
| 22:07.30 | RodOfNOD | is all he needs |
| 22:07.31 | DarkRevenant | annoyingling: they type "Counter-argument" |
| 22:07.32 | Bibendus | yep |
| 22:07.36 | DarkRevenant | I type "Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis" |
| 22:07.38 | RinArenna | I know, that's what I was saying, Rod. |
| 22:07.39 | DarkRevenant | i rage |
| 22:07.40 | Bibendus | forgot about region moving |
| 22:07.43 | Bibendus | tnkz |
| 22:07.49 | RodOfNOD | yaregion doesntmove |
| 22:07.49 | Bibendus | lets try |
| 22:07.58 | RodOfNOD | u just get theregion size by wahtever he can see |
| 22:08.09 | RinArenna | If you use create region in region, then that's creating more regions. |
| 22:08.17 | Bibendus | u mean to spot |
| 22:08.22 | Rodrigo | annoyling spans a word bigger than 14 characters |
| 22:08.24 | Bibendus | and then i say |
| 22:08.25 | Bibendus | reveal this |
| 22:08.34 | Bibendus | region with different small regionz |
| 22:08.44 | Bibendus | that contains them |
| 22:08.47 | RodOfNOD | not if use a global RinArenna |
| 22:08.56 | Bibendus | so its just |
| 22:08.58 | Bibendus | a single revealer |
| 22:09.12 | Bibendus | why |
| 22:09.16 | Bibendus | i doubt it will work? |
| 22:09.17 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:09.21 | Bibendus | i feel it |
| 22:09.24 | Bibendus | on my skin |
| 22:09.25 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:09.54 | RinArenna | So basically Rod, you mean just adding shapes to a region. |
| 22:10.11 | RinArenna | So that there's one revealer and one region. |
| 22:10.12 | Bibendus | that! |
| 22:10.15 | Bibendus | are u sure is |
| 22:10.18 | Bibendus | add region to a region? |
| 22:10.20 | Bibendus | the shape adding? |
| 22:10.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster rrowland (~Ryan@pool-71-103-164-22.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 22:10.45 | RinArenna | Add Rectangle to Region |
| 22:10.53 | Bibendus | OOH |
| 22:10.55 | Bibendus | that's better!!!!! |
| 22:11.01 | RinArenna | That's what it is. |
| 22:11.03 | Bibendus | wait |
| 22:11.04 | RinArenna | What he's talking about. |
| 22:11.06 | Bibendus | before doing anything |
| 22:11.17 | Bibendus | i ll try with a premade reigon |
| 22:11.20 | Bibendus | that contains many shapes |
| 22:11.24 | RinArenna | Or well, actually. |
| 22:11.30 | Bibendus | lets see if that works |
| 22:11.30 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:11.52 | RinArenna | What he's talking about is; Create a Region, then Create a second region and add that region to the first region. The third region and fourth region get added to the first region as well. |
| 22:12.35 | nolliepoper | Anyone want to help me via skype with team varriants and trigger players on team 1? |
| 22:12.36 | Bibendus | yes but |
| 22:12.38 | Bibendus | i suppose |
| 22:12.40 | Bibendus | its less efficient |
| 22:12.50 | RinArenna | Not really. It can be easier. |
| 22:12.55 | Bibendus | why= |
| 22:13.02 | Bibendus | if u have 1 region with more shapes |
| 22:13.06 | Bibendus | and u add a revealer to that |
| 22:13.11 | Bibendus | its simple |
| 22:13.19 | Bibendus | if u have a region that contains other |
| 22:13.21 | RinArenna | Because you just create a region, place it, then add it to the other region, they become one region with two shapes. |
| 22:13.22 | Bibendus | i suppose it won't work |
| 22:13.34 | Bibendus | and why add square to region |
| 22:13.36 | Bibendus | won't work? |
| 22:13.40 | Bibendus | rectangle* |
| 22:14.05 | RinArenna | Add rectangle to region will work also. But it looks like it might be harder. |
| 22:14.37 | RinArenna | Because it looks like the positioning seems relative to the position of the region. |
| 22:14.50 | WAR | Jesus exists? Yay or NAY |
| 22:15.09 | RinArenna | So if the top left of the region isn't at the top left of the map, it won't work. With add region to region you can just use the pre-detirmined position of the region you're adding. |
| 22:15.26 | Bibendus | oh rly? |
| 22:15.27 | nolliepoper | YAY |
| 22:15.27 | Bibendus | holy shit |
| 22:15.27 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:15.59 | RinArenna | So, Add Region to Region is absolute. Meaning if it's at (1, 25) it'll STAY at (1, 25) |
| 22:16.13 | Bibendus | i hope |
| 22:16.16 | Bibendus | it just makes a sum |
| 22:16.20 | Bibendus | and it doesnt keep in memory |
| 22:16.21 | Bibendus | 2 regions |
| 22:16.39 | RinArenna | I don't think it does. It might keep the pointers, but the pointers will both point to one region. |
| 22:16.55 | RinArenna | That way other things can still point to that identifier. |
| 22:17.18 | RinArenna | Which would keep things fast, while not making things unstable. |
| 22:18.14 | RinArenna | Because otherwise if pointers were removed then region001 would no longer be there once added to region002. So if something were to look for region001 it'd break. If the pointers are kept, region001 would just point to the same thing as region002. |
| 22:18.51 | Bibendus | k actually |
| 22:18.53 | Bibendus | it seems to work |
| 22:18.56 | Bibendus | with a premade region |
| 22:18.57 | Bibendus | lets see |
| 22:19.01 | Bibendus | adding 2 regions to 1 |
| 22:19.25 | RodOfNOD | k i got itall to work |
| 22:19.30 | RodOfNOD | Bibendus |
| 22:19.33 | RinArenna | Region 002 and Region 001 will both become Region 002. While Region 001 can be pointed to, but it'll just point it towards Region 002. =| Confusing. |
| 22:20.05 | Bibendus | wait |
| 22:20.08 | Bibendus | where did u find |
| 22:20.11 | Bibendus | the add region to region |
| 22:20.12 | nolliepoper | Anyone want to help me via skype with team varriants and trigger players on team 1? |
| 22:20.20 | Bibendus | oh |
| 22:20.21 | Bibendus | action |
| 22:20.22 | Bibendus | ! |
| 22:20.28 | RodOfNOD | http://pastebin.com/RUtd8kLD |
| 22:20.28 | RinArenna | Click "New Action" then "Region" |
| 22:20.40 | Bibendus | ye |
| 22:20.49 | Bibendus | i tought it could be done while searching a region |
| 22:20.51 | RodOfNOD | not sure why i ahve to keep refereshingit |
| 22:20.55 | Bibendus | its an action not a function |
| 22:20.56 | RodOfNOD | but that will work |
| 22:20.59 | RodOfNOD | i just tested it |
| 22:21.08 | Bibendus | rod |
| 22:21.10 | Bibendus | what did u do? |
| 22:21.30 | RodOfNOD | go look |
| 22:21.34 | Bibendus | lookin |
| 22:21.36 | DarkRevenant | anyone notice how |
| 22:21.39 | RinArenna | Hmmm. Yeah, Rod, that looks good. |
| 22:21.40 | DarkRevenant | one of the levels of bounty hunters |
| 22:21.44 | DarkRevenant | looks like a swastika |
| 22:21.59 | RodOfNOD | of course change the size to the vision of ur unit |
| 22:22.01 | Bibendus | ooooooh |
| 22:22.03 | Bibendus | the auto reveal |
| 22:22.05 | RinArenna | But that would create a LOT of shapes. |
| 22:22.12 | RodOfNOD | how |
| 22:22.20 | RodOfNOD | globals are reused |
| 22:22.24 | RinArenna | Every 1 second it's creating a shape by adding one region to another. |
| 22:22.36 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:22.41 | Bibendus | they could ban the map then |
| 22:22.41 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:22.43 | RinArenna | Basically, when you add a region to a region it adds the region's shape to the other region. |
| 22:22.49 | RodOfNOD | sure |
| 22:22.54 | RodOfNOD | but the actual variable shouldnt live |
| 22:23.00 | RodOfNOD | after u make the next one |
| 22:23.06 | RinArenna | No, but the second region will keep the added shapes. |
| 22:23.14 | RodOfNOD | of coruse thats what i want |
| 22:23.29 | RinArenna | So while Region 1 is refreshed, the "reveal" region gains another region every second. |
| 22:23.43 | Bibendus | memory leaks? |
| 22:23.44 | RodOfNOD | no it doesnt |
| 22:23.49 | RodOfNOD | it just makes the region be different |
| 22:23.54 | RodOfNOD | it doesnt make 2 regions |
| 22:23.55 | Bibendus | revealers |
| 22:23.58 | Bibendus | have this problem too |
| 22:24.00 | RinArenna | No no no, Rod. |
| 22:24.01 | Bibendus | u have to refresh them |
| 22:24.08 | Bibendus | when reigon changes |
| 22:24.09 | RinArenna | I don't mean 2 regions. |
| 22:24.15 | RinArenna | It's 1 region with a bunch of "Shapes" |
| 22:24.18 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 22:24.20 | RinArenna | Rectangles, Circles, etc. |
| 22:24.21 | RodOfNOD | and waht is wrong with that |
| 22:24.30 | RinArenna | But every 1 second it creates another "Shape" inside the region. |
| 22:24.43 | RodOfNOD | i bet they multiply the shape |
| 22:24.49 | RinArenna | Which means, every 1 second it makes the region bigger. |
| 22:24.50 | RodOfNOD | i highlyt doubt they keep it |
| 22:24.59 | RinArenna | It also increases the load of the game every 1 second. |
| 22:25.05 | RodOfNOD | if the guy dont move i dontsee how it would increasethe size |
| 22:25.18 | RodOfNOD | if blizzard wrote shit code |
| 22:25.20 | RodOfNOD | then yes |
| 22:25.39 | RodOfNOD | the other wasy to do it would be to checkboard regions and have 10x10 regions that are revealed |
| 22:25.45 | RodOfNOD | but this will be way better for theplayer |
| 22:25.46 | Bibendus | consider |
| 22:25.51 | Bibendus | i won't just add |
| 22:25.53 | Bibendus | shapes |
| 22:25.59 | Bibendus | with no checks |
| 22:26.07 | Bibendus | cause the exploration is squared |
| 22:26.19 | RodOfNOD | well u didnt say that or if u did i missed it |
| 22:26.19 | Bibendus | and if the square is already explored |
| 22:26.22 | Bibendus | i won't add another shape |
| 22:26.29 | RodOfNOD | ow many squareS? |
| 22:26.32 | Bibendus | 128x128 |
| 22:26.35 | Bibendus | x 4 players |
| 22:26.39 | RinArenna | You're doing DnD style exploration right? |
| 22:26.41 | RodOfNOD | ok so make that many regions and just reveal them |
| 22:26.43 | Bibendus | nope i didnt say that |
| 22:26.48 | Bibendus | its dungeon keeper exploration :D |
| 22:26.58 | Bibendus | i prefer |
| 22:27.00 | RinArenna | DnD exploration just means fixed size area exploration |
| 22:27.01 | Bibendus | to make a single region |
| 22:27.04 | Bibendus | where i add shapes |
| 22:27.07 | Bibendus | its more efficient |
| 22:27.08 | RodOfNOD | its no different |
| 22:27.11 | Bibendus | and usually u don't explore all the map |
| 22:27.11 | RodOfNOD | to what i just did |
| 22:27.12 | RodOfNOD | then |
| 22:27.19 | RinArenna | It is different Nod. |
| 22:27.19 | Bibendus | oh k .d |
| 22:27.28 | RinArenna | Yours creates a region per second at the unit's position. |
| 22:27.32 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 22:27.32 | Bibendus | its different |
| 22:27.36 | Bibendus | i create it in the square |
| 22:27.39 | Bibendus | and other squares |
| 22:27.40 | Bibendus | near |
| 22:27.42 | RodOfNOD | 128x128 = how many regionshes gonna add? |
| 22:27.43 | Bibendus | with sight distance |
| 22:27.46 | Bibendus | 16k |
| 22:27.47 | RinArenna | What Bibendus needs to do is create a shape at fixed points |
| 22:28.02 | Bibendus | don't worry that won't be a problem |
| 22:28.03 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:28.14 | Bibendus | the problem was to find the most efficient way |
| 22:28.22 | Bibendus | oh |
| 22:28.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zara (5d212128@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.33.33.40) |
| 22:28.24 | RinArenna | So if the unit is in sqaure 32x65 the region is moved there, then added to reveal, IF that area is not already revealed. |
| 22:28.24 | Bibendus | and talking about |
| 22:28.26 | RinArenna | Right Bibendus? |
| 22:28.27 | Bibendus | the periodic event |
| 22:28.34 | RodOfNOD | if he explores over time it will take him 5 hours to actually reveal all those rects before my method is less effienct |
| 22:28.36 | Bibendus | more or less |
| 22:28.38 | Bibendus | that area |
| 22:28.41 | Bibendus | and near squares |
| 22:28.41 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:29.00 | Bibendus | what rod? |
| 22:29.10 | RodOfNOD | 16k/60 secs = 273 minutes |
| 22:29.19 | RodOfNOD | before u would use up the same amount of regions imgonna |
| 22:29.25 | Bibendus | oh u mean |
| 22:29.27 | RodOfNOD | assuming blizzard does it the way rin says |
| 22:29.30 | RodOfNOD | whichi highly doubt |
| 22:29.30 | Bibendus | with your periodic add region? |
| 22:29.34 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 22:29.36 | Bibendus | consider i have MORE units |
| 22:29.36 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:29.41 | Bibendus | u are doing it just with 1 hydra |
| 22:29.53 | Zara | guys... do you know how to make a weapon attack a different unit each time it fires? |
| 22:30.00 | Bibendus | so its better to check if the area is already explored |
| 22:30.05 | RodOfNOD | hers an idea do both and seewhich is best? |
| 22:30.12 | RodOfNOD | just check the memory sizde the game eatsup |
| 22:30.17 | RinArenna | That's 68.25 Minutes for 4 playerd. |
| 22:30.18 | Bibendus | yep |
| 22:30.21 | nolliepoper | Zara I think they are busy. |
| 22:30.25 | Bibendus | rin |
| 22:30.26 | RinArenna | Players* |
| 22:30.27 | Bibendus | do it |
| 22:30.31 | Bibendus | 100 units for player |
| 22:30.32 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:30.32 | RinArenna | Do what? |
| 22:30.34 | Zara | nolli seems so :D |
| 22:30.34 | RinArenna | ACK |
| 22:30.35 | Bibendus | 50 |
| 22:30.44 | Bibendus | 68/50 |
| 22:30.49 | Bibendus | 1.x minutes |
| 22:30.51 | Bibendus | : |
| 22:30.52 | Bibendus | D |
| 22:30.56 | RinArenna | That's 1.36 Minutes |
| 22:30.58 | nolliepoper | Zara you good with team 1 and 2 implementation with triggers? |
| 22:31.03 | Bibendus | now |
| 22:31.09 | Bibendus | talking about the loop |
| 22:31.10 | Zara | nolli kinda, what about? |
| 22:31.14 | Bibendus | that makes that checks |
| 22:31.24 | RodOfNOD | no look |
| 22:31.25 | RodOfNOD | loop |
| 22:31.26 | Bibendus | i was thinking |
| 22:31.31 | RodOfNOD | just have 128x128 regions |
| 22:31.32 | nolliepoper | Well does the test document even maek the teams? |
| 22:31.32 | Bibendus | to the unit leaves region |
| 22:31.34 | Bibendus | event |
| 22:31.34 | RodOfNOD | should be fine :P |
| 22:31.35 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 22:31.42 | nolliepoper | because I made this trigger |
| 22:31.43 | Bibendus | instead of making all those regions |
| 22:31.46 | Bibendus | i can make 1 region x unit |
| 22:31.47 | nolliepoper | Pick each player in (Players on team 1) and do (actions) |
| 22:31.56 | Zara | test document?! |
| 22:32.09 | RodOfNOD | how does assigning a region to a unit help Bibendus? |
| 22:32.11 | Bibendus | when the unit leaves his square region |
| 22:32.15 | nolliepoper | Yes the single local player map test. |
| 22:32.16 | Bibendus | not assigning |
| 22:32.17 | RodOfNOD | u need to check if the unit is in a preset region |
| 22:32.21 | Bibendus | placing to its position |
| 22:32.29 | RinArenna | So basically, when the unit leaves the region you check his position then make a region in that square the game adds a region to the first region and reveals? |
| 22:32.31 | Bibendus | when the unit leaves |
| 22:32.34 | Bibendus | u move the unit in its new position |
| 22:32.37 | Bibendus | and fire the sight trigger |
| 22:32.43 | Zara | nolli I don't get the point |
| 22:32.45 | RodOfNOD | why would u add the region to the region |
| 22:32.50 | Bibendus | nope |
| 22:32.50 | RodOfNOD | whyu not just reveal it |
| 22:32.52 | Bibendus | i use the same region |
| 22:32.59 | Bibendus | i m talking just about the event |
| 22:33.06 | Bibendus | that fires the sight check |
| 22:33.07 | Zara | nolli test map doesn't make teams you need to |
| 22:33.10 | Zara | w8w8 |
| 22:33.29 | RinArenna | Because Rod, that creates more revealers. |
| 22:33.56 | Bibendus | 1 revealer is best |
| 22:33.59 | RinArenna | He wants every area he discovers to be always visible. |
| 22:34.06 | Bibendus | and it seems to work |
| 22:34.07 | Bibendus | wait |
| 22:34.09 | Bibendus | i make the test |
| 22:34.20 | RinArenna | But, if he creates too many revealers or regions it will become laggy and unplayeable. |
| 22:34.23 | Zara | nolli you need to do it by yourself, but if you look at the forum there are nice examples |
| 22:35.40 | Bibendus | maybe |
| 22:35.42 | Bibendus | i found a prob |
| 22:35.50 | Bibendus | no ok |
| 22:35.51 | Bibendus | it works |
| 22:35.52 | Bibendus | ! |
| 22:35.59 | Bibendus | i just didnt see the region revealing |
| 22:36.03 | RinArenna | Using Add Region to Region? |
| 22:36.03 | Bibendus | i moved it and now i can see it |
| 22:36.05 | Bibendus | yes |
| 22:36.10 | RinArenna | Awesome. |
| 22:36.12 | Bibendus | i merged 3 regions |
| 22:36.14 | nolliepoper | I am doing it by myself and I use Pick each player in (Players on team 1) and do (actions) |
| 22:36.15 | Bibendus | and did a single revealer |
| 22:36.17 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 22:36.21 | Bibendus | then i can try to add another region |
| 22:36.25 | nolliepoper | then make revelealer for picked player. |
| 22:36.26 | Bibendus | and update the revealer |
| 22:36.27 | nolliepoper | not working |
| 22:36.43 | Bibendus | hu? |
| 22:36.52 | nolliepoper | It will only work with Pick each player in (active players) and do (actions) |
| 22:37.28 | Zara | when map initializes, move the players into new groups like Team1 Team2 ecc... |
| 22:37.29 | RinArenna | Are there actually players on team 1? |
| 22:37.34 | nolliepoper | I want to make a leaderboard only the size of people in game. |
| 22:37.38 | Bibendus | ORGAZM! |
| 22:37.46 | Bibendus | :V |
| 22:37.49 | nolliepoper | which the players in team 1 trigger doesnt work on test document. |
| 22:37.51 | Bibendus | it workz |
| 22:37.55 | Bibendus | merged 2 regions |
| 22:37.58 | Bibendus | waited 5 sec |
| 22:38.02 | Bibendus | merged another region |
| 22:38.10 | RinArenna | =D |
| 22:38.10 | Bibendus | updated the last created revealer |
| 22:38.13 | Bibendus | and it works |
| 22:38.18 | Bibendus | so i don't need to create more revealers |
| 22:38.18 | Zara | Rin do you know how to make a weapon attack a different unit every time it fires? |
| 22:38.35 | Bibendus | now i have another problem |
| 22:38.41 | RinArenna | Hmm, no clue Zara. That's data editor, which I am horrible at. XD |
| 22:38.41 | Bibendus | my cool function to create a region |
| 22:38.42 | Bibendus | doesnt work |
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| 22:38.43 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:38.51 | Bibendus | zara |
| 22:38.51 | Bibendus | mm |
| 22:38.53 | RinArenna | I'm only good with triggers. (sad) |
| 22:38.58 | Zara | bibendus |
| 22:39.09 | Bibendus | randomly? |
| 22:39.10 | Bibendus | or example |
| 22:39.10 | Zara | TOTALLY randomly |
| 22:39.10 | Bibendus | 2 weaponz switch |
| 22:39.12 | Bibendus | oh shitz |
| 22:39.15 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:39.23 | Bibendus | start doing a switch between 2 weapons |
| 22:39.27 | Zara | each time it fires it target a random unit within weapon range |
| 22:39.28 | cheeae | Meh I hate United |
| 22:39.29 | Bibendus | then u try to make it random |
| 22:39.52 | Bibendus | let me think |
| 22:39.53 | RinArenna | Hmm, actually I thought there was something like that in the Beam Weapons tutorial? |
| 22:39.54 | Bibendus | u can see |
| 22:39.57 | Bibendus | how marauder attacks work |
| 22:40.05 | Bibendus | u know |
| 22:40.09 | Bibendus | he shots from left weapon |
| 22:40.10 | Bibendus | then right |
| 22:40.12 | Zara | bibendus I made a weapon and I set AcquireFilters to TSRandom |
| 22:40.17 | Zara | but it does'nt work |
| 22:40.21 | RinArenna | Hmm... |
| 22:40.29 | Bibendus | then if u are in advanced state i suppose i can't help u |
| 22:40.32 | Bibendus | i suck too with data editing |
| 22:40.32 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:40.43 | Bibendus | acquire filter |
| 22:40.49 | Bibendus | is for picking weapon? |
| 22:40.51 | Bibendus | are u sure? |
| 22:41.00 | Zara | it's in the weapon panel |
| 22:41.09 | Bibendus | and TSRandom |
| 22:41.21 | Zara | the only way I found was |
| 22:41.26 | Bibendus | is a random number that counts the amount of weapons? |
| 22:41.33 | Bibendus | i m trying |
| 22:41.36 | Bibendus | to think a random weapon |
| 22:41.37 | Bibendus | in the game |
| 22:41.38 | Bibendus | mm |
| 22:41.42 | Zara | nah should be the order |
| 22:41.50 | Zara | in which possible targets are sorted |
| 22:41.55 | Bibendus | oh k |
| 22:41.57 | Zara | then the weapon/unit choose the first one |
| 22:42.17 | Zara | The only way I can make that work |
| 22:42.20 | Bibendus | oh man use triggerz xD |
| 22:42.26 | Bibendus | mm |
| 22:42.29 | Zara | is to create a EnumArea effect on the weapon |
| 22:42.33 | Zara | Count 1 |
| 22:42.41 | Zara | TSRandom, range = weapon range |
| 22:42.43 | Bibendus | yea the thing that marauders do |
| 22:42.47 | Zara | and then apply the damage |
| 22:43.02 | Zara | marauders target randomly?! |
| 22:43.54 | Bibendus | nope |
| 22:43.57 | Bibendus | switches weapon |
| 22:44.08 | Bibendus | i mean |
| 22:44.15 | Bibendus | attack starting point |
| 22:44.18 | Bibendus | from weap left and right |
| 22:44.45 | Bibendus | mmmmm |
| 22:44.58 | Bibendus | u can do something like |
| 22:45.01 | Bibendus | adding a random behavior |
| 22:45.09 | Bibendus | that contains the next attack |
| 22:45.11 | Bibendus | type |
| 22:45.26 | Bibendus | when u attack you can change the behavior using triggers |
| 22:45.28 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:45.34 | Bibendus | that would be a hybrid way |
| 22:45.41 | Bibendus | data + triggers |
| 22:48.09 | Bibendus | oh fuck |
| 22:48.10 | Bibendus | finally |
| 22:48.11 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4Y7ztznKc&feature=player_embedded |
| 22:48.19 | Bibendus | cataclysm trailer |
| 22:50.01 | EternalWraith | O.o |
| 22:50.04 | EternalWraith | Watching now |
| 22:50.21 | nolliepoper | anyone know if there is a create building in the triggers? |
| 22:50.33 | nolliepoper | I can't find anything but create unit facing... |
| 22:50.38 | Bibendus | OH SHIT |
| 22:50.40 | Bibendus | the epicness! |
| 22:50.40 | RodOfNOD | use that |
| 22:50.47 | RodOfNOD | buildings are units |
| 22:51.00 | nolliepoper | the command center isnt under the units. |
| 22:51.16 | RodOfNOD | its a unit for the purposes of the triggers |
| 22:52.38 | Bibendus | why did they disturb the ancient dragon? |
| 22:52.41 | Bibendus | that's not a good idea |
| 22:52.42 | Bibendus | ever |
| 22:52.46 | Bibendus | never |
| 22:53.16 | nolliepoper | RodOfNOD |
| 22:53.31 | nolliepoper | so use which one for my command center. |
| 22:53.45 | nolliepoper | create unit facing angle or point? |
| 22:53.46 | RodOfNOD | use one what? |
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| 22:54.10 | nolliepoper | I need to make a command center using triggers |
| 22:54.11 | RodOfNOD | doesntmatter |
| 22:54.12 | RodOfNOD | use angle |
| 22:54.21 | nolliepoper | use which angle? |
| 22:54.26 | RodOfNOD | put any number in angle cyuz the building uses any |
| 22:54.33 | RodOfNOD | it uses whatever its set to regardless |
| 22:54.37 | RodOfNOD | alot of the triggers ui have to try |
| 22:54.46 | RodOfNOD | instead ofjust aske before trying |
| 22:55.10 | nolliepoper | hmm only see units and not structures |
| 22:55.59 | nolliepoper | Rod you lieing to me? |
| 22:56.24 | nolliepoper | There are no structure buildings in the value. |
| 22:56.25 | EternalWraith | Bibendus: Its ok.. I still think Burning crusade had best intro |
| 22:56.35 | WAR | HEY LOOK |
| 22:56.41 | WAR | A FIRE ACROSS FROM MY APARTMENT COMPLEX |
| 22:56.42 | WAR | LOLOL |
| 22:56.47 | Bibendus | but thats an epic dragon! |
| 22:56.56 | WAR | Dumb people |
| 22:56.57 | Bibendus | not a gay demon |
| 22:57.18 | RinArenna | Fail troll. |
| 22:57.24 | Bibendus | http://pastebin.com/9JsR87nz |
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| 22:57.39 | nolliepoper | Rod where you at? |
| 22:57.47 | Bibendus | why thats not working |
| 22:57.48 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:58.03 | Bibendus | k |
| 22:58.05 | Bibendus | cause i m idiot |
| 22:58.05 | Bibendus | xD |
| 22:58.28 | Bibendus | not able to pass the correct arguments |
| 22:58.41 | RodOfNOD | nolliepoper- Unit - Create 1 Command Center for player 1 at Point facing 270.0 degrees (No Options) |
| 22:58.45 | RodOfNOD | u must be blind |
| 22:58.51 | nolliepoper | I can't find my command center under creat unit |
| 22:58.52 | RodOfNOD | and im making maps like u are |
| 22:59.00 | nolliepoper | Cool. |
| 22:59.13 | nolliepoper | But still cant find any structured buildings |
| 22:59.48 | nolliepoper | Unit - Create 1 Unit for player 1 at Point facing 270.0 degrees (No Options) |
| 22:59.53 | nolliepoper | When I click Unit |
| 23:00.26 | RodOfNOD | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12240115/cc.JPG |
| 23:00.27 | nolliepoper | There are no structured buildings but only troops |
| 23:00.31 | RodOfNOD | u must be truekly blind |
| 23:01.01 | nolliepoper | O calm down I forgot to change the last drop down menu |
| 23:01.05 | nolliepoper | Thanks for the ss tho. |
| 23:02.08 | nolliepoper | my drop down menu was set to units |
| 23:02.12 | nolliepoper | so I only say troops |
| 23:02.16 | RodOfNOD | i want u to consider that we are giving help for free and that by asking questions that are really basic over and over we get frustrated, just trust that what we tell u is usually correct and fight the urge to keep asking till u really cant findit |
| 23:02.40 | WAR | Man People started a fire in apartment across from us. |
| 23:02.45 | nolliepoper | I can give people some tips if you want. |
| 23:02.50 | WAR | How inconsiderate, I was trying to sleep |
| 23:02.55 | WAR | now theres this loud alarm going off |
| 23:03.02 | WAR | fucking assholes |
| 23:03.05 | WAR | I hope they burn |
| 23:03.13 | nolliepoper | WAR lives up to his name |
| 23:03.49 | WAR | seriously how hard is it to fight a fire |
| 23:03.51 | Orc | Sooooo |
| 23:03.57 | WAR | I'm a fight fires on submarines |
| 23:03.59 | WAR | not too hard |
| 23:04.01 | WAR | get some water |
| 23:04.16 | Orc | Create Text Tag -> Attach Tag to Unit -> Unit Dies, causing Text Tag to dissapear, this is how it should work, right? |
| 23:04.38 | RinArenna | Yeah, I think... |
| 23:04.41 | Orc | Because it does work like that. Until I turn on procaster and hit stream. While streaming the text tags dont die with the unit. Im confused now :( |
| 23:04.41 | nolliepoper | Who uses Text Tags? |
| 23:04.47 | RinArenna | I haven't tried out Text Tags yet. |
| 23:04.52 | nolliepoper | Yeah see |
| 23:04.53 | Orc | Im using them for debugging |
| 23:04.54 | nolliepoper | Orc |
| 23:04.55 | RinArenna | Wait, seriously? |
| 23:04.56 | RinArenna | Haha |
| 23:04.58 | RodOfNOD | could be ur game settings |
| 23:04.59 | Orc | Yeah. |
| 23:05.04 | Orc | I think its just a lag thing |
| 23:05.05 | RodOfNOD | since text tags might lag on a slower computer |
| 23:05.14 | nolliepoper | Orc bro I dont think Text Tags are very successful. |
| 23:05.24 | Orc | Theyre fine for what Im using them for |
| 23:05.27 | RodOfNOD | text tags rock |
| 23:05.34 | nolliepoper | Rod It's not that I didn't trust what you were saying but wanted you to explain better. |
| 23:05.36 | RinArenna | Nollie, Text Tags are awesome. |
| 23:05.46 | Orc | Anyone mind taking a second to look at my knockback system? I need some feedback |
| 23:06.02 | nolliepoper | RinArenna so awesome that you never used them? |
| 23:06.06 | RinArenna | The way they work is awesome. But I haven't needed them. |
| 23:06.09 | nolliepoper | I never used em either tho. |
| 23:06.16 | RinArenna | All my text is done through Dialogs. |
| 23:06.23 | nolliepoper | So were in the same boat. |
| 23:06.28 | RinArenna | I've created a chat/message system. |
| 23:06.37 | RodOfNOD | i have used them and they rock |
| 23:06.41 | Orc | Right now Im having the knockback system spawn a dummy unit + a text tag showing the remaining "force" on the unit at each point it moves the unit to |
| 23:06.41 | RinArenna | Except Nollie, in my boat, people like Text Tags. xD |
| 23:07.01 | Orc | So theyre fine for that =P |
| 23:07.13 | nolliepoper | In my boat we create games in sc2 where you can create games inside our game. |
| 23:07.22 | Orc | They randomly die with the unit while streaming, Im just going to assume its a resources thing... |
| 23:07.31 | RinArenna | Yeah, Nollie, except I already am doing that. |
| 23:07.42 | RinArenna | Well. |
| 23:07.46 | RinArenna | You can't create them in game |
| 23:07.56 | RinArenna | But you create them in the editor, then play them while playing... |
| 23:08.13 | nolliepoper | My game will be an editor |
| 23:08.36 | nolliepoper | and you can test your game within my game. |
| 23:08.49 | nolliepoper | with region memory leaks |
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| 23:09.07 | RinArenna | Nollie, what previous experience in trigger editing, if I may ask? |
| 23:09.16 | RinArenna | in trigger editing do you have* |
| 23:09.37 | nolliepoper | Java programming to the MAX |
| 23:09.49 | nolliepoper | umm lets see |
| 23:09.56 | nolliepoper | ever heard of RoboCode? |
| 23:10.05 | Orc | Oh well now theyre dissapearing properly *shrugs* |
| 23:10.08 | RinArenna | Hm, no. |
| 23:10.21 | Bibendus | i m finishing |
| 23:10.28 | Bibendus | the amount of variables memory |
| 23:10.28 | Bibendus | :| |
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| 23:11.11 | nolliepoper | well not so much map making experience with triggers but enough programming experience to know how to learn and use the triggers easily |
| 23:11.32 | nolliepoper | obvious RinArenaa is obvious |
| 23:12.27 | RinArenna | Alright, if you're looking to learn SC2 trigger editing, then give yourself a lot of time before you try to handle creating some of these things. Because it's going to be very difficult. |
| 23:12.49 | RinArenna | You're going to need to create action functions for if then else calling. |
| 23:12.58 | nolliepoper | I am not even looking to learn the trigger editor |
| 23:13.08 | nolliepoper | the data editor hates me. |
| 23:13.15 | RinArenna | ... |
| 23:13.31 | nolliepoper | but srsy |
| 23:13.37 | nolliepoper | gotta do some work instead of chatting |
| 23:13.43 | RinArenna | The trigger editor handles every single bit of scripting information... |
| 23:13.56 | RinArenna | If you aren't looking to learn the trigger editor, than you won't be making games inside of games... |
| 23:14.38 | nolliepoper | So your talking about custom scripts within the trigger editor to do all your data editing without using the data editor? |
| 23:15.23 | RinArenna | No. The Data Editor won't let you do things like calling an if then else script to handle wether or noth something happens in someone's game. The Data Editor won't let you check if the user has clicked to place a new function or call. |
| 23:15.58 | nolliepoper | That is not what I said did you misread? |
| 23:16.01 | RinArenna | The Data Editor handles information on things like units and buildings and effects and sounds. |
| 23:16.08 | nolliepoper | I know... |
| 23:16.16 | nolliepoper | I was saying that you implied |
| 23:16.33 | Ornloff | anyone know if you can see what characters you have from wow on the wow website? |
| 23:16.33 | nolliepoper | idk |
| 23:16.53 | nolliepoper | That you can do anything in the trigger editor that could be does in the data. |
| 23:17.15 | Orc | Ornloff, do you mean wowarmory? |
| 23:17.54 | nolliepoper | k be back later Rin. |
| 23:18.04 | RinArenna | No. I was saying if you don't learn the trigger editor, you can't do what you're planning... x.x |
| 23:18.55 | nolliepoper | I already know it well enough. |
| 23:19.03 | nolliepoper | gotta do some work |
| 23:19.05 | nolliepoper | distactions |
| 23:23.18 | DarkRevenant | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/player-zone/map-review/13670-crc-bounty-hunters/ |
| 23:23.21 | DarkRevenant | finally new review |
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| 23:28.57 | DarkRevenant | for those who just joined |
| 23:28.59 | DarkRevenant | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/player-zone/map-review/13670-crc-bounty-hunters/ |
| 23:29.14 | nolliepoper | For each integer Variable from 1 to 4 with increment 1, do (Actions) |
| 23:29.21 | nolliepoper | ^^ what is the point of Variable? |
| 23:29.50 | nolliepoper | This loop should not require a variable and just loop. |
| 23:30.34 | progammer_ | was that red blood water ? DarkRevenant |
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| 23:31.41 | RinArenna | Nollie, so that the variable can be checked during the loop. |
| 23:31.58 | RinArenna | So; For each integer i from 1 to 4 with increment 1 |
| 23:32.15 | RinArenna | You'll be able to check the variable i to see what number it is. |
| 23:32.19 | ZarafFaraz | sup guys |
| 23:32.56 | DarkRevenant | yes |
| 23:32.58 | DarkRevenant | it was red blood |
| 23:33.00 | DarkRevenant | but it |
| 23:33.04 | nolliepoper | Yes but It forces me to make that variable right? |
| 23:33.06 | DarkRevenant | does not look liek that in game |
| 23:33.17 | DarkRevenant | nollie |
| 23:33.19 | RinArenna | Yes. Because it uses the variable. |
| 23:33.20 | DarkRevenant | just make a local var |
| 23:33.21 | DarkRevenant | assign it |
| 23:33.23 | DarkRevenant | be done |
| 23:33.25 | nolliepoper | and what if I set it to 7 and the loop goes from 1 to 4 |
| 23:33.25 | RinArenna | Basically it's a while loop. |
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| 23:33.31 | DarkRevenant | use while loops |
| 23:33.33 | DarkRevenant | btw |
| 23:33.35 | DarkRevenant | for is kinda buggy |
| 23:33.42 | RinArenna | It'd set the variable to 1, then 2, then 3, then 4. |
| 23:33.51 | RodOfNOD | whats buggy? |
| 23:33.59 | nolliepoper | The for loop? |
| 23:34.00 | Twiner | omg |
| 23:34.06 | Twiner | we need to abandon captchas |
| 23:34.08 | RodOfNOD | for loops have no bugs |
| 23:34.19 | nolliepoper | I doubt it is buggy you may not know how to use it. |
| 23:34.19 | Bibendus | 00:00:00.00 Script load failed: Execution took too long |
| 23:34.20 | DarkRevenant | try nesting |
| 23:34.22 | Bibendus | WTF IS THAAAAAAAT |
| 23:34.22 | DarkRevenant | for in a pick |
| 23:34.30 | DarkRevenant | it means |
| 23:34.30 | ZarafFaraz | no bugs just inefficient |
| 23:34.33 | DarkRevenant | the while loop |
| 23:34.34 | DarkRevenant | did not end |
| 23:34.36 | RodOfNOD | thats not buggy |
| 23:34.39 | RodOfNOD | there are no bugs |
| 23:34.45 | RodOfNOD | its just how it works cuz it uses a global |
| 23:34.49 | RinArenna | Dark, that's user error. |
| 23:34.55 | DarkRevenant | that's why i said |
| 23:34.57 | DarkRevenant | kinda buggy |
| 23:35.03 | DarkRevenant | it might as well be a bug if you're using it for that situation |
| 23:35.05 | RinArenna | Bugs=/=User Error |
| 23:35.07 | nolliepoper | Wait the variable it uses has to be global? |
| 23:35.08 | DarkRevenant | i never use for loops |
| 23:35.12 | DarkRevenant | normally something is |
| 23:35.14 | DarkRevenant | BUGGY |
| 23:35.16 | DarkRevenant | or |
| 23:35.17 | DarkRevenant | NOT BUGGY |
| 23:35.20 | DarkRevenant | in this case it's gray area |
| 23:35.28 | RinArenna | No, in this case it's NOT BUGGY |
| 23:35.30 | DarkRevenant | since its use will cause bugs even if itself |
| 23:35.31 | DarkRevenant | is not buggy |
| 23:35.49 | nolliepoper | The loop is not even buggy but his code may be. |
| 23:35.59 | DarkRevenant | it's not intuitive |
| 23:35.59 | RinArenna | Think of it like this... You wouldn't put a rock in a blender right? |
| 23:36.01 | DarkRevenant | to have |
| 23:36.03 | RinArenna | That's user error. |
| 23:36.04 | DarkRevenant | a for |
| 23:36.07 | DarkRevenant | in a pick |
| 23:36.09 | DarkRevenant | and have it break |
| 23:36.15 | RinArenna | So, putting a rock as the variable, doesn't work either. |
| 23:36.17 | DarkRevenant | it worked correctly in wc3 iirc |
| 23:36.49 | DarkRevenant | a rock going into a blender is obvious |
| 23:37.05 | DarkRevenant | for many users, figuring out that a for loop does not go in a pick every loop |
| 23:37.07 | DarkRevenant | or was it vice versa? |
| 23:37.13 | DarkRevenant | is not so intuitive |
| 23:37.39 | DarkRevenant | it's a buglike behavior but is not technically a bug |
| 23:37.50 | DarkRevenant | hence "kinda" buggy |
| 23:38.41 | progammer_ | rock blender ? just make sure not to nest 2 pick loop |
| 23:38.47 | progammer_ | as they use the same variable |
| 23:38.52 | RinArenna | Buggy means something has bugs in it. What you're explaining is simply limitations. |
| 23:38.54 | progammer_ | nest as much for loop as you want |
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| 23:40.43 | RinArenna | In fact, I use a Pick Every loop inside of a For loop. |
| 23:40.51 | RinArenna | No, wait, turn that around. |
| 23:40.56 | RinArenna | A For loop in a Pick Every loop. |
| 23:41.01 | RinArenna | For my Vehicle System. |
| 23:41.37 | DarkRevenant | one of those permutations caused problems |
| 23:41.43 | RodOfNOD | using anything but an actual local variable is newb :P |
| 23:41.47 | DarkRevenant | i don't remember which because i don't use for loops and i avoid |
| 23:41.51 | DarkRevenant | anything |
| 23:41.54 | DarkRevenant | related to pick every |
| 23:41.56 | DarkRevenant | whenever i can |
| 23:42.11 | RinArenna | It does it to update the position of dummy units with are used as icons to enter a vehicle. |
| 23:42.50 | RinArenna | It's like, For Every Unit in Unit Group (Vehicle Units); Update Vehicle |
| 23:43.09 | Bibendus | oooooh fuck |
| 23:43.14 | Bibendus | my struct |
| 23:43.16 | Bibendus | is fucking all |
| 23:43.20 | Bibendus | 00:00:00.00 Script load failed: Execution took too long |
| 23:43.25 | Bibendus | should i suicide myself? |
| 23:43.26 | Bibendus | now |
| 23:45.04 | wOlfLinG | Ya! |
| 23:45.11 | DarkRevenant | lol |
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| 23:45.16 | DarkRevenant | i've done my whole physics system in GUI |
| 23:45.20 | DarkRevenant | just to say FUCK YOU to the world |
| 23:45.25 | DarkRevenant | it's fun |
| 23:45.43 | progammer_ | wait you done your fucking system ? |
| 23:45.44 | wOlfLinG | Also, seeing as how the SC2 map locking system is rubbish, how would i create a library to lock a map? |
| 23:45.45 | progammer_ | sounds fun |
| 23:45.56 | Bibendus | programmer |
| 23:45.56 | DarkRevenant | well, the physics part of it is done |
| 23:45.57 | wOlfLinG | Or anything :/ |
| 23:46.02 | Bibendus | progammer |
| 23:46.02 | Bibendus | fu |
| 23:46.04 | DarkRevenant | except for maybe a few things here and there that i'll add along the way |
| 23:46.05 | Bibendus | stupid nick :D |
| 23:46.09 | progammer_ | :( |
| 23:46.12 | Bibendus | u're a programmer for me |
| 23:46.12 | Bibendus | xD |
| 23:46.13 | DarkRevenant | but we've got explosions, hard-body collisions, etc |
| 23:46.16 | Bibendus | however i was sayin |
| 23:46.21 | Bibendus | i ve seen a thread reply |
| 23:46.24 | Bibendus | of yourz |
| 23:46.35 | Bibendus | 00:00:00.00 Script load failed: Execution took too long |
| 23:46.35 | DarkRevenant | if you want to test |
| 23:46.39 | DarkRevenant | i'll go on bnet |
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| 23:46.45 | Bibendus | do u know something about that? |
| 23:46.53 | progammer | yeah i test it well since beta |
| 23:47.01 | Bibendus | i m receiving it |
| 23:47.05 | Bibendus | for a struct declaration |
| 23:47.06 | Bibendus | :| |
| 23:47.13 | progammer | use a loop with an interger count to a million |
| 23:47.23 | progammer | it will stop and you get only 300 000 |
| 23:47.43 | Bibendus | thats not a loop |
| 23:47.47 | Bibendus | but a struct |
| 23:47.49 | Bibendus | declaration |
| 23:47.50 | Bibendus | :| |
| 23:47.56 | DarkRevenant | oh, does that loop limit |
| 23:48.00 | DarkRevenant | count for nested loops? |
| 23:48.01 | progammer | not sure i know much about struct ? |
| 23:48.12 | progammer | are those just variable |
| 23:48.13 | Bibendus | dunno |
| 23:48.15 | Bibendus | yes |
| 23:48.19 | Bibendus | a nested variable |
| 23:48.23 | progammer | if so you might make an infinite loop somewhere |
| 23:48.29 | Bibendus | i think |
| 23:48.30 | DarkRevenant | hmm |
| 23:48.37 | Bibendus | it's too big |
| 23:48.45 | progammer | because basically execution take so long is to eliminate infinite loop |
| 23:48.46 | Bibendus | 128x128 array |
| 23:48.52 | Bibendus | with some arrays inside |
| 23:48.56 | Bibendus | ye i know |
| 23:49.02 | Bibendus | but i m fucked by this |
| 23:49.06 | DarkRevenant | i dunno, my system works fine with |
| 23:49.07 | progammer | just multiply that up |
| 23:49.17 | progammer | you get well over 300 000 |
| 23:49.17 | DarkRevenant | 200+ projectiles |
| 23:49.20 | DarkRevenant | all colliding with each other |
| 23:49.22 | progammer | so it is looping too much |
| 23:49.31 | DarkRevenant | with double precisions |
| 23:49.36 | Bibendus | TileStruct |
| 23:49.36 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.36 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.36 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.36 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.37 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.37 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.38 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.38 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.39 | Bibendus | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.44 | Bibendus | removing the last one |
| 23:49.48 | Bibendus | fixes all |
| 23:49.53 | DarkRevenant | it loops through all the projectiles, and each projectile loops through half the others |
| 23:49.59 | Bibendus | oh and making single booleans instead of an array |
| 23:50.02 | Bibendus | works too |
| 23:50.03 | Bibendus | lol |
| 23:50.30 | SuraklinSC2 | The code generation sucks. ;) |
| 23:50.39 | DarkRevenant | lol i make my own struct |
| 23:50.41 | SuraklinSC2 | When you say: ExploredByPlayer = false <Boolean[4]> |
| 23:50.41 | DarkRevenant | the hard war |
| 23:50.43 | DarkRevenant | way |
| 23:50.45 | DarkRevenant | manually! |
| 23:50.45 | SuraklinSC2 | It generates a loop. |
| 23:50.48 | WAR | WHAT |
| 23:50.50 | DarkRevenant | i just have a whole lot of arrays |
| 23:50.50 | SuraklinSC2 | That sets all 4 to false. |
| 23:50.52 | PassivePicasso | progammer: sent you a pm on sc2 |
| 23:50.56 | PassivePicasso | sc2m |
| 23:51.04 | Bibendus | and |
| 23:51.08 | Bibendus | why should he generate a loop? |
| 23:51.11 | Bibendus | oh ye |
| 23:51.12 | Bibendus | its small |
| 23:51.13 | Bibendus | .. |
| 23:51.14 | progammer | got it |
| 23:51.19 | Bibendus | its just 4 more |
| 23:51.20 | Bibendus | lol |
| 23:51.24 | wOlfLinG | :/ This bug is annoying. I'm attempting to run the editor in Wine, but the icons don't show up, and the data editor crashes it. Time to dual boot with win 7 -.- |
| 23:51.31 | SuraklinSC2 | 4 more, x how many are you making? ;) |
| 23:52.07 | Bibendus | haem |
| 23:52.11 | Bibendus | 4x16k |
| 23:52.12 | Bibendus | but :D |
| 23:52.15 | Bibendus | if i don't use array |
| 23:52.20 | Bibendus | and i make 4 single boolean vars |
| 23:52.21 | Bibendus | it works |
| 23:52.24 | SuraklinSC2 | Right. |
| 23:52.24 | Bibendus | oh wait |
| 23:52.26 | progammer | who here are good enough to do the hotshot achievement with me |
| 23:52.26 | Bibendus | no k |
| 23:52.29 | SuraklinSC2 | Cuz that just says x = y |
| 23:52.31 | Bibendus | strange? |
| 23:52.38 | SuraklinSC2 | Not for 1..4, x(z) = y |
| 23:52.48 | Bibendus | :| |
| 23:52.57 | progammer | ( hot shot : went 5-0 in placement match) |
| 23:53.03 | Bibendus | do u know guyz |
| 23:53.19 | Bibendus | if i make another double indexed array |
| 23:53.33 | Bibendus | is that the same as adding a variable to a struct |
| 23:53.34 | wOlfLinG | progammer: Not me! |
| 23:53.41 | Bibendus | in term of memory |
| 23:56.44 | Bibendus | holy shiiiiit |
| 23:56.53 | Bibendus | now i m scared |
| 23:57.03 | Bibendus | it seems it's a problem of variable initialization time |
| 23:57.23 | Bibendus | so adding more variables |
| 23:57.29 | Bibendus | will mean.. i will suck |
| 23:57.31 | progammer | Bibendus: its just simply that you have too much action in a loop before it break |
| 23:57.39 | progammer | if its just initialization |
| 23:57.41 | Bibendus | i have no actions |
| 23:57.46 | progammer | try to break it out to smaller loop |
| 23:57.47 | Bibendus | global vars |
| 23:57.53 | Bibendus | ARE at initialization |
| 23:57.57 | Bibendus | and i can't do anything about this |
| 23:58.02 | Bibendus | i can't split |
| 23:58.12 | Bibendus | globals are globals... |
| 23:58.18 | progammer | take a look at the script, copy it and break it down |
| 23:58.22 | progammer | then add custom script |
| 23:58.40 | Bibendus | i suppose i can't break it |
| 23:58.42 | progammer | revert your var to default value |
| 23:58.44 | Bibendus | its not inside an action |
| 23:58.56 | progammer | initialization is an action in the script |
| 23:58.59 | progammer | its automated |
| 23:59.01 | Bibendus | oh |
| 23:59.03 | progammer | behind the scene |
| 23:59.09 | progammer | its in the script |
| 23:59.26 | Bibendus | nope |
| 23:59.27 | progammer | and is what happen when you put a value different than default on an array for example |
| 23:59.28 | Bibendus | its not |
| 23:59.35 | DarkRevenant | back |
| 23:59.50 | Bibendus | oh the init maybe |
