IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20101009

`00:03.01`	`*** join/#sc2mapster halohalo (76d1c8de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.118.209.200.222)`
`00:09.27`	`mrop`	`prozaic i got a question about your tut`
`00:10.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`(it has been taken to query)`
`00:10.18`	`Thels`	`Arthas-10, it's up`
`00:16.26`	`Darkarbiter`	`when I give a unit interceptors`
`00:18.09`	`FockeWulf`	`hey does anyone know how to make it so you can build on ramps?`
`00:18.15`	`FockeWulf`	`cause i fixed the footprint`
`00:18.16`	`Darkarbiter`	`lol`
`00:18.19`	`FockeWulf`	`and in game it will show green`
`00:18.19`	`Darkarbiter`	`I remember reading that question`
`00:18.22`	`FockeWulf`	`but i hear its bugged`
`00:18.25`	`Darkarbiter`	`and blizzard gave the shittest answer`
`00:18.31`	`Darkarbiter`	`"`
`00:18.34`	`Darkarbiter`	`they're like`
`00:18.42`	`Darkarbiter`	`to make buildings be able to be built anywhere do this`
`00:18.45`	`FockeWulf`	`well since I had already made bridges it wasn't too much of an issue :)`
`00:18.49`	`Darkarbiter`	`like, obviously that's not what you want!`
`00:18.54`	`FockeWulf`	`well`
`00:18.56`	`FockeWulf`	`they also gave`
`00:18.57`	`FockeWulf`	`a fix`
`00:18.59`	`FockeWulf`	`ie spawnable`
`00:19.24`	`FockeWulf`	`but the issue is its showing up green`
`00:19.33`	`FockeWulf`	`but it returns "can't find location"`
`00:19.36`	`FockeWulf`	`or an error like that`
`00:20.16`	`Ornloff`	`any way to hear soundtracks from the editor`
`00:20.28`	`FockeWulf`	`like in the editor`
`00:20.32`	`FockeWulf`	`or in the game?`
`00:20.42`	`Ornloff`	`ahh nm`
`00:20.52`	`FockeWulf`	`>.>`
`00:21.52`	`Darkarbiter`	`Oh another question`
`00:21.58`	`Darkarbiter`	`when units are building they can't attack for some reason`
`00:22.02`	`Darkarbiter`	`i.e. buildings`
`00:22.08`	`Darkarbiter`	`well I mean when e.g. you have a barracks building a marine`
`00:22.14`	`Darkarbiter`	`if you give it an attack it can't attack while training`
`00:22.30`	`FockeWulf`	`uhhhh`
`00:22.34`	`FockeWulf`	`thats kinda built in`
`00:22.42`	`FockeWulf`	`BUT you can do like the planetary fortress`
`00:22.48`	`FockeWulf`	`id just go look at that`
`00:22.50`	`FockeWulf`	`see how its done`
`00:23.03`	`FockeWulf`	`theres either an actor thing or a flag somewhere that lets you do it`
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`00:29.00`	`Ornloff`	`how do you stop bird noises and stuff in game`
`00:29.01`	`Ornloff`	`?`
`00:30.15`	`FockeWulf`	`bird noises?`
`00:30.18`	`FockeWulf`	`what bird?`
`00:30.50`	`FockeWulf`	`you mean like actor noises?`
`00:32.39`	`wOlfLinG`	`Hmm... theres a guy on the forums with a crossed out red name :/. Did he get banned or something?`
`00:34.37`	`Tehwildcard`	`yes`
`00:34.46`	`Tehwildcard`	`Anyone who speaks my name`
`00:34.50`	`Tehwildcard`	`Gets a insta-perma-ban`
`00:34.53`	`Tehwildcard`	`an*`
`00:35.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`No no no`
`00:35.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`he got ated`
`00:35.12`	`wOlfLinG`	`:O Looks like Xaragoth is pretty harsh with his bans`
`00:35.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`by the spaghetti monstah!`
`00:35.16`	`Tehwildcard`	`Same thing`
`00:35.23`	`wOlfLinG`	`Teh topling has struck!`
`00:35.31`	`FockeWulf`	`hey ive been browsing sc2 forums and it seems ppl want a diplo map. Would anyone like to collaborate and make one like the sc1 version?`
`00:35.32`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`00:35.48`	`Tehwildcard`	`diplo aka risk?`
`00:35.53`	`Tehwildcard`	`I thought there were a few already`
`00:35.57`	`wOlfLinG`	`yeah`
`00:36.05`	`wOlfLinG`	`But they havn't all been good`
`00:36.10`	`FockeWulf`	`ppl on the forums seem to think not >.>`
`00:36.18`	`FockeWulf`	`every one i have played didnt go off well`
`00:36.21`	`Tehwildcard`	`Isn't it actually against the rules to make a world risk map`
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`00:36.30`	`FockeWulf`	`lack of units etc`
`00:36.31`	`ckknight`	`only if you call it risk`
`00:36.32`	`Tehwildcard`	`Since it depecits other countries going to war or some crap like that`
`00:36.34`	`FockeWulf`	`well diplomacy is a little diff`
`00:36.35`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`00:36.40`	`ckknight`	`Tehwildcard: absolutely not.`
`00:36.51`	`Tehwildcard`	`Must have read it wrong`
`00:37.05`	`wOlfLinG`	`Tehwildcard: they have space faring texans ingame. Thats a lot worse than a world war :P`
`00:37.16`	`FockeWulf`	`LOL`
`00:37.31`	`FockeWulf`	`"I'm a space cowboy, bet you werent ready for that..."`
`00:37.49`	`wOlfLinG`	`Mah space vehickil jus' brokified! hits with hammer`
`00:38.18`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`00:38.25`	`*** join/#sc2mapster FahqueL (FahqueL@d149-67-16-205.nap.wideopenwest.com)`
`00:38.35`	`Tehwildcard`	`you lost me at texans`
`00:38.35`	`FahqueL`	`good evening`
`00:38.55`	`FockeWulf`	`might as well make a map named cable repair man and get 'er done :P`
`00:39.03`	`Tehwildcard`	`wow`
`00:39.07`	`Tehwildcard`	`that might be epic`
`00:39.17`	`FockeWulf`	`actually`
`00:39.21`	`FockeWulf`	`come to think of it`
`00:39.22`	`FockeWulf`	`it might`
`00:39.25`	`wOlfLinG`	`Good moaning FahqueL!`
`00:39.32`	`FockeWulf`	`morning?`
`00:39.32`	`Tehwildcard`	`Think about it TVs scattered every where and you have to repair them before their channels start coming alive`
`00:39.47`	`wOlfLinG`	`'ello! 'ello! ftw!`
`00:39.54`	`FockeWulf`	`hmm since my dad happens to be a tv engineer i could make that really complicated :P`
`00:40.05`	`Tehwildcard`	`mini puzzles in game to fix TVs`
`00:40.23`	`FockeWulf`	`does it include partial derivatives?`
`00:40.27`	`Tehwildcard`	`Of course`
`00:40.35`	`FockeWulf`	`ok just checking`
`00:40.47`	`Tehwildcard`	`Oh nvm`
`00:40.50`	`Tehwildcard`	`someone already made it`
`00:41.01`	`FockeWulf`	`Get 'er Done?`
`00:41.09`	`Tehwildcard`	`That and tv repair mania`
`00:41.20`	`FockeWulf`	`fail`
`00:41.21`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`00:41.33`	`FockeWulf`	`Well we could make one called Comcast`
`00:41.38`	`Tehwildcard`	`^ joke about how many bad maps have been made on every possible subject/previously made map`
`00:42.21`	`FockeWulf`	`hmm`
`00:42.30`	`wOlfLinG`	`Someone probably made a map where you debate stuff :D`
`00:42.36`	`Tehwildcard`	`lol`
`00:42.48`	`FockeWulf`	`ya they did, I couldn't get my clan interested to play it though`
`00:42.56`	`wOlfLinG`	`aNYWAY, BED TIME`
`00:43.01`	`Tehwildcard`	`wolfling`
`00:43.03`	`FockeWulf`	`~.~`
`00:43.03`	`Tehwildcard`	`before you go`
`00:43.04`	`wOlfLinG`	`Gah! Stupid caps -.-`
`00:43.12`	`Tehwildcard`	`...I love you`
`00:43.16`	`wOlfLinG`	`...`
`00:43.23`	`Tehwildcard`	`Nothing left to be said`
`00:43.24`	`wOlfLinG`	`backs away sloooooowly`
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`00:43.24`	`FockeWulf`	`He wont sleep tonight`
`00:43.36`	`wOlfLinG`	`Nightmares for a month :/`
`00:43.45`	`Tehwildcard`	`Sweet nightmares <3`
`00:43.53`	`wOlfLinG`	`only to you`
`00:44.06`	`wOlfLinG`	`for me i'll be waking up screaming every 2 hours`
`00:44.08`	`Dryeyece`	`Hey guys im sniffin throughthe forums trying to find a tutorial on allowing camera control via a held down mouse button, does anyone know of such a tutorial or one like it?`
`00:44.30`	`FockeWulf`	`uhhh..... I've built them`
`00:44.31`	`wOlfLinG`	`Dryeyece: Check onetwos youtube account`
`00:44.46`	`Tehwildcard`	`Like only allow camera control when a mouse button is held?`
`00:45.29`	`Dryeyece`	`yeah`
`00:45.38`	`Dryeyece`	`specifically the right mouse button`
`00:45.44`	`Tehwildcard`	`if/then/else`
`00:45.59`	`Dryeyece`	`I want to allow the camera to be rotated 360 degrees around the unit`
`00:46.05`	`Tehwildcard`	`oh`
`00:46.21`	`Dryeyece`	`kinda like the wow camera`
`00:46.25`	`Tehwildcard`	`yeah`
`00:46.28`	`FockeWulf`	`wait`
`00:46.34`	`FockeWulf`	`I'm making that as well`
`00:46.37`	`FockeWulf`	`what map you making it for?`
`00:46.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`so I'm making a crazy long list of questions for the editor/blog/thread thing on Blizzard`
`00:46.44`	`Dryeyece`	`my map`
`00:46.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`if you have issues with the editor that you've discovered and haven't already posted, query me with them`
`00:46.50`	`Tehwildcard`	`Prozaic`
`00:46.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'll add them to the list`
`00:47.00`	`Tehwildcard`	`Should start a thread about question to ask at Blizzcon`
`00:47.03`	`Dryeyece`	`if ProzaicMuze is asking a question im afraid`
`00:47.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`00:47.08`	`FockeWulf`	`ya`
`00:47.14`	`FockeWulf`	`akward questions to ask at blizzcon`
`00:47.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`"Why does your editor suck so bad tha I have to teach everyone how to use it?"`
`00:47.27`	`Tehwildcard`	`If I get a chance I will ask Dustin to marry me`
`00:47.37`	`FockeWulf`	`LOL`
`00:47.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`What if he says yes!?`
`00:47.55`	`Tehwildcard`	`What would be wrong with that...>`
`00:47.57`	`Tehwildcard`	`?`
`00:48.03`	`Dryeyece`	`speaking of questions can you remove that little dong sound that plays when an ability is issued? I implemented progammers wasd system and it works fine but each time the move command is issued that litle sound plays ;-/`
`00:48.07`	`Tehwildcard`	`He's a rich man`
`00:48.07`	`Tehwildcard`	`I could deal`
`00:48.09`	`FockeWulf`	`ok anyways dryeyece heres the deal, im making a system similar to yours`
`00:48.12`	`FockeWulf`	`its nearly working`
`00:48.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`00:48.15`	`FockeWulf`	`if you want to collaborate on it`
`00:48.20`	`FockeWulf`	`thats fine with me`
`00:48.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`but yeah`
`00:48.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`if you have questions or broken thing in the editor you've found`
`00:48.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`query me`
`00:48.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'll either answer them or put them in my post`
`00:48.44`	`Tehwildcard`	`"Is your merge with Activision the reason your map editor sucks so hard?"`
`00:48.46`	`FockeWulf`	`oh really?`
`00:48.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Go go go!`
`00:48.48`	`FockeWulf`	`hmm`
`00:48.51`	`FockeWulf`	`i got a list for ya`
`00:48.52`	`Dryeyece`	`sure but I have nothing to add right now lol`
`00:48.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`well you've got like 30mins ish`
`00:49.01`	`Dryeyece`	`I havent done much work at all int he trigger editor and ive not touched cameras at all`
`00:49.03`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`00:49.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`since I assume that's how long it will take me to make said list and submit it`
`00:49.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I have to read back and see what other folks have said lol`
`00:50.04`	`FockeWulf`	`1. Why is it that when I create and modified actors for specific units, test them, save, close the editor and reopen it that the actors I made have been added to EVERY UNIT? Like a default battlecruiser has a crate and a cactus`
`00:50.27`	`Tehwildcard`	`>.>`
`00:50.39`	`FockeWulf`	`2. Why in the heck is the pan cam function when rotated around a unit smooth for 180 degress and not the other?`
`00:50.51`	`Dryeyece`	`because some event on their actor events is associated with each of those units`
`00:51.06`	`FockeWulf`	`3. Whey didn't you add a "move unit over time" function`
`00:51.13`	`FockeWulf`	`actual dry`
`00:51.15`	`FockeWulf`	`i looked into that`
`00:51.19`	`FockeWulf`	`actor events are fine`
`00:51.31`	`FahqueL`	`@ PM, @blizzard, will you add "chance" field to behavior modification+ instead of only dmg response....`
`00:51.32`	`FockeWulf`	`if they werent, it would read it creates other actors as well`
`00:51.33`	`FockeWulf`	`it doesn't`
`00:51.46`	`Dryeyece`	`Mine dont do that because I delete every event from their actor events except the stuff I make`
`00:52.01`	`Dryeyece`	`is why I figure it must be an actor even thing`
`00:52.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Fahquel - that's a good one`
`00:52.21`	`FockeWulf`	`agggh, well here is the stupid thing`
`00:52.25`	`FockeWulf`	`it effects every unit`
`00:52.26`	`FockeWulf`	`including ones`
`00:52.27`	`Dryeyece`	`well I do now since I did Prozaics uberlisk tutorial =p`
`00:52.28`	`FockeWulf`	`i never touched`
`00:52.30`	`FockeWulf`	`and done use`
`00:52.48`	`FockeWulf`	`I made a hydralisk attack from scratch ?`
`00:53.09`	`FockeWulf`	`I also had 3 IBuproprion afterwards`
`00:53.10`	`Dryeyece`	`thanks for reminding me of the chance thing Fahquel I was going to see about making my units crit 8-)`
`00:53.19`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`00:53.26`	`FockeWulf`	`anwyays`
`00:53.27`	`FockeWulf`	`dry`
`00:53.30`	`FockeWulf`	`what map are ya making?`
`00:53.43`	`FockeWulf`	`I'm making an fps and a space rouges rm for my system`
`00:53.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm going to ignore general for a bit. Please use /query ProzaicMuze`
`00:54.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`for the rest of the questions you watn in my post`
`00:54.11`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`00:54.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it'll ping me so I know to add it`
`00:54.29`	`Thels`	`hmm, so AIs are moved to the bottom of the player list`
`00:54.32`	`Thels`	`interesting to know`
`00:54.57`	`FockeWulf`	`brain dead blizz`
`00:55.39`	`FahqueL`	`dryeyece, i just finished my crit system last night`
`00:55.50`	`FahqueL`	`its incredibly complicated but all through data editor`
`00:56.00`	`Dryeyece`	`with data editor or triggers?`
`00:56.01`	`FahqueL`	`i am debating writing a tutorial on it`
`00:56.16`	`FahqueL`	`i have a skill with levels 1-5 of crit`
`00:56.18`	`Dryeyece`	`OK How are you guys making your names red when you talk to me?`
`00:56.22`	`FahqueL`	`an item that gives a crit effect`
`00:56.33`	`FahqueL`	`and another class of item that gives another crit effect`
`00:56.58`	`FahqueL`	`i managed to set it up so that the highest multiplier type of crit ability has the chance to proc first, then the others`
`00:57.16`	`FahqueL`	`it involves behaviors, dmg responses, weapons, switches, sets`
`00:57.30`	`FahqueL`	`and soem validators ofc`
`00:58.01`	`Dryeyece`	`wow`
`00:58.11`	`FahqueL`	`and it includes text actors created at attacking unit that say "2x !" or "4x !"`
`00:58.56`	`FahqueL`	`but im debating if i want to lose 2 hours making tutorial`
`00:59.07`	`FahqueL`	`thats more like a job for Mr. PM`
`00:59.30`	`FahqueL`	`how complex is your crit system?`
`00:59.44`	`FahqueL`	`only one skill or items too?`
`00:59.48`	`Dryeyece`	`I dont have one`
`00:59.58`	`FahqueL`	`well you need to make one though?`
`01:00.06`	`Dryeyece`	`I only want to add it to my weapon damage effects`
`01:00.17`	`FahqueL`	`non-leveling?`
`01:00.19`	`Dryeyece`	`yeah im digging through the tutorials now trying to find one`
`01:00.28`	`FahqueL`	`ok i can help you with that`
`01:00.29`	`Dryeyece`	`well I dont know`
`01:00.41`	`Dryeyece`	`if I could make the crit damage a pct then I wouldnt need levels`
`01:00.42`	`FahqueL`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/2562-critical-strike-issue-and-item-activation-issue/#p6`
`01:00.50`	`FahqueL`	`this is the solution through data editor`
`01:00.54`	`Dryeyece`	`like when you crit it does 50 pct more dmg etc`
`01:01.23`	`Dryeyece`	`that might be the one im looking at right now lol`
`01:01.32`	`FahqueL`	`mine is alot more complicated but its based off of this thread solution`
`01:02.29`	`FahqueL`	`i dont recommend "handling" an effect, as that causes armor to reduce dmg 2x, dmg responses such as thorns aura type things to respond 2x, etc`
`01:02.36`	`FahqueL`	`multiplier is better solution`
`01:02.55`	`Dryeyece`	`yea the behavior thing that Rileystarcraft mentions sounds like what I want for the dmg`
`01:03.09`	`Dryeyece`	`let me try what he said and ill get back with you in a few`
`01:03.13`	`FahqueL`	`yeah and add one charge max, one charge start, one charge use`
`01:03.21`	`FahqueL`	`read the rest of post`
`01:03.31`	`FahqueL`	`his idea gets cleaned up by zifoon and another guy`
`01:03.37`	`FahqueL`	`post #11`
`01:04.05`	`FahqueL`	`query me if you get stuck`
`01:04.15`	`Dryeyece`	`yeah the text tag sounds like an excellent idea`
`01:04.32`	`FahqueL`	`i want it to get the dmg dealt and show that`
`01:04.38`	`FahqueL`	`but that has to be done with triggers`
`01:04.45`	`FahqueL`	`and i know 0% of triggering`
`01:04.48`	`FahqueL`	`my partner does all that`
`01:05.10`	`Dryeyece`	`is it a problem that right now none of my abilities or effects have levles? am I going to have to remake them all when I go to add levels to them?`
`01:05.26`	`FahqueL`	`no`
`01:05.27`	`Dryeyece`	`yeah`
`01:05.34`	`FahqueL`	`but it gets much more complicated`
`01:06.13`	`FahqueL`	`if you dont know how to use requirements and validators yet, you will have to learn fast for leveling`
`01:06.16`	`Dryeyece`	`how so?`
`01:15.29`	`Dryeyece`	`ive made a couple of validators and tried making some requirements before 8-) so far I haven't had a problem accomplishing anything I wanted in the data editor aside from creating a beam to connect two conjoined units`
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`01:23.44`	`FahqueL`	`anyone know if a solution has been found for making tychus model WITHOUT flashlight?`
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`01:36.24`	`Dryeyece`	`Fahquel u there?`
`01:40.08`	`Tordy`	`am i?`
`01:40.10`	`Tordy`	`algus`
`01:40.14`	`Tordy`	`am I algus?`
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`01:49.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`2nd to last call for Blizzard Questiosn about the SC2 Editor (for this: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/608631413?page=1)`
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`01:50.11`	`Zara`	`sup all`
`01:51.35`	`Zara`	`hey`
`01:51.49`	`Zara`	`does anyone know how to add a tooltip reference about a behavior modification?`
`01:52.19`	`Zara`	`for example... radar 16... i've tried with "Behavior,MyBehavior,Radar" and "Behavior,MyBehavior,Modification,Radar"`
`01:52.27`	`Zara`	`But nothing shows up :S`
`01:57.22`	`LordAbyss`	`prozaicmuze`
`01:57.23`	`LordAbyss`	`hi`
`01:57.43`	`Zara`	`?`
`01:58.16`	`LordAbyss`	`?`
`01:58.33`	`LordAbyss`	`o.O`
`01:58.40`	`LordAbyss`	`O.o`
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`02:01.55`	`Zara`	`loalz`
`02:04.09`	`Dryeyece`	`SUCESS`
`02:04.35`	`Dryeyece`	`My weapon now crits 25 pct of the time for 50 pct more dmg, and when it crits it plays an effect animation on the target that was hit!`
`02:05.20`	`Dryeyece`	`would prefer that the effect animation could be text reflecting the amount of damage done though`
`02:05.34`	`Dryeyece`	`or some cool text image that says BLAM or POW lol`
`02:05.37`	`thenk`	`how did you do that`
`02:05.48`	`Dryeyece`	`it was really easy actually`
`02:05.50`	`thenk`	`the text cant reflect the damage done as far as i know`
`02:06.07`	`Dryeyece`	`it can`
`02:06.12`	`Dryeyece`	`ive seen it done on other games`
`02:06.20`	`thenk`	`behaviour.. chance 0.25 combat damage response location - target, modification damage fraction 0.5?`
`02:06.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`wut LordAbyss?`
`02:06.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm makin' a wishlist for Blizzard`
`02:06.31`	`Dryeyece`	`no`
`02:06.38`	`Tordy`	`wasaP!`
`02:06.39`	`Dryeyece`	`damage fraction 1.5`
`02:06.47`	`Tordy`	`anyone here wanna test a map o mine?`
`02:06.48`	`Dryeyece`	`if you make ti .5 it will do half damg`
`02:06.49`	`Tordy`	`:]`
`02:06.56`	`Tordy`	`it's a bad map`
`02:07.03`	`Tordy`	`but if you can help me test it woudl be great :]`
`02:07.07`	`thenk`	`really? i use damage fraction 0.6 for 60% extra damage`
`02:07.09`	`Dryeyece`	`but yeah thats exactly how`
`02:07.43`	`Dryeyece`	`then make apply behavior effect for the crit behavior and a set effect to combine the damage and apply behavior effect`
`02:08.07`	`Dryeyece`	`to combine the damage effect of whatever weapon with the apply behavior effect`
`02:08.23`	`Dryeyece`	`make sure behavior duration is set to .1 and cap is 1`
`02:08.54`	`Dryeyece`	`and replace any references to X-weapon damage to the new set effect youve added that damage to`
`02:09.11`	`Dryeyece`	`I double checked mine`
`02:09.12`	`Tordy`	`hi Dryeyece`
`02:09.19`	`Dryeyece`	`at 2 it my 50 dmg become 100 dmg`
`02:09.23`	`thenk`	`you can jst have a hidden buff on the unit tho`
`02:09.24`	`Tordy`	`ProzaicMuze care to share that wishlist? :]`
`02:09.27`	`Dryeyece`	`and at 1.5 my 50 dmg becomes 75`
`02:09.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`When I post it here: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/608631413?page=1`
`02:09.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Sure`
`02:09.46`	`Dryeyece`	`Tordy how did you make your name red when you said that to me?`
`02:10.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`4 by this OR you have highlight on`
`02:10.05`	`thenk`	`he didnt it was prolly ur client`
`02:10.53`	`Dryeyece`	`Tordy im on satellite internet otherwise I would love to help you test your map`
`02:11.32`	`Dryeyece`	`so any of you know how to make text appear in the place of a model?`
`02:15.13`	`ZarafFaraz`	`so....when is Blizzard announcing the winners?`
`02:15.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`never`
`02:15.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`because you lost`
`02:15.27`	`ZarafFaraz`	`well I never entered`
`02:15.44`	`ZarafFaraz`	`so they are privately informing the winners?`
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`02:17.53`	`ZarafFaraz`	`ahh gay, they said the "winners will be notified"..`
`02:18.04`	`ZarafFaraz`	`maybe they'll find out from the winners if they want the results published or something`
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`02:23.56`	`Rodrigo`	`is watching noobs: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10058106`
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`02:25.13`	`rrowland`	`Anybody been notified?`
`02:27.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Me`
`02:27.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`i won`
`02:27.20`	`rrowland`	`Pretty amazing considering you didn't enter`
`02:27.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`How do you know?`
`02:27.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Mebbe I lied?`
`02:27.34`	`rrowland`	`You didn't`
`02:27.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`What, because I never lie ever?`
`02:30.42`	`Rodrigo`	`These guyz are playing Nexus Word Wars for like 2 hours: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10058106`
`02:31.06`	`Rodrigo`	`while listening to barbie girl`
`02:38.50`	`rrowland`	`Well let's just hope that Blizzard is going to be late once again`
`02:39.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`or maybe Activision realized Blizzard was givign away money for a contest and decided to simpyl take all the maps`
`02:39.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`sell them`
`02:39.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`AND keep the money.`
`02:39.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But pretend the contest was still in deliberation`
`02:40.25`	`rrowland`	`I'm gonna rage if it turns out sotis was actually a winner`
`02:40.29`	`rrowland`	`After being out for so long`
`02:40.39`	`Saeris`	`it can't win`
`02:40.46`	`rrowland`	`That's why I'd rage`
`02:40.53`	`rrowland`	`But he's already been invited to blizzcon`
`02:41.00`	`Saeris`	`if i get notified as a winner, i'll have a heart attack`
`02:41.10`	`rrowland`	`If I DONT get notified as a winner`
`02:41.14`	`rrowland`	`I'll kill myself`
`02:41.30`	`Saeris`	`well good luck`
`02:41.42`	`Saeris`	`i just wanted to go to blizzcon =/`
`02:41.46`	`progammer`	`rrowland: need a rope ?`
`02:42.06`	`Saeris`	`i got kicked out of the queue to buy tickets with only a hundred people ahead of me`
`02:42.13`	`Saeris`	`been trying to go for like, 3 years now`
`02:42.23`	`rrowland`	`I've gotten tickets every year`
`02:43.16`	`Saeris`	`well at least you can still go then =P`
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`02:44.07`	`rrowland`	`Yeah because that's as good as 5k`
`02:44.11`	`Myst`	`spits on sc2mapster`
`02:44.20`	`Myst`	`viva darkblizz`
`02:44.21`	`Myst`	`!`
`02:45.05`	`rrowland`	`that site sucks`
`02:45.05`	`thenk`	`how erotic`
`02:45.14`	`rrowland`	`especially this crappy 9/11 post you made`
`02:45.43`	`Bifuu`	`?`
`02:45.43`	`Myst`	`goober`
`02:46.31`	`Saeris`	`tbh, i could care less about the $5k, getting that level of recognition would have made my year`
`02:46.32`	`rrowland`	`They're probably purposely waiting`
`02:46.41`	`rrowland`	`Or they set up a mailer daemon`
`02:46.52`	`rrowland`	`To send it out at 11:59:59`
`02:47.01`	`rrowland`	`Cause they hate all of us`
`02:47.21`	`rrowland`	`Well for me`
`02:47.26`	`progammer`	`3 = all ?`
`02:47.30`	`rrowland`	`5k was good since I'm about to be in a world of shit`
`02:47.30`	`progammer`	`since when ?`
`02:47.36`	`rrowland`	`plus recognition from blizz`
`02:47.40`	`rrowland`	`I'd def like to work there`
`02:48.02`	`Saeris`	`so would i`
`02:48.36`	`Saeris`	`hard to imagine that anything i've got lined up will ever land me a job there`
`02:48.43`	`Saeris`	`but, might as well try`
`02:50.15`	`Saeris`	`just too bad there isn't really a game design major i could take anywhere`
`02:50.38`	`Saeris`	`either got to be fucking talented as hell, be great at programming, or a great artist`
`02:50.45`	`Saeris`	`and have connections like whoah`
`02:51.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`or you can make your own company`
`02:51.55`	`rrowland`	`And compete with blizz?`
`02:51.58`	`rrowland`	`I'd rather work for blizz`
`02:52.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`your loss`
`02:52.50`	`Saeris`	`well, given how i've had little to no help getting to where i am now`
`02:52.58`	`Saeris`	`i don't think starting my own company would be a great idea`
`02:52.59`	`Saeris`	`lol`
`02:54.11`	`Bifuu`	`they announced winners yet to that contest?`
`02:54.25`	`rrowland`	`I'm good with game design and programming, I just don't have the connections`
`02:54.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes I winned everything`
`02:55.07`	`Saeris`	`well rrowland, it's an issue we all face. but hey`
`02:55.19`	`Saeris`	`that's why we have this community, so we're connected to each other`
`02:55.27`	`Saeris`	`and if one of us lands it big, there you go`
`02:55.28`	`Saeris`	`connections`
`02:55.30`	`Saeris`	`=)`
`02:55.48`	`rrowland`	`I dunno, I spent months here making a name`
`02:56.04`	`rrowland`	`A month later 90% of people I knew were gone and now there's a ton of new people who have never heard of me`
`02:56.42`	`Saeris`	`just gotta keep with it i say`
`02:56.50`	`Saeris`	`mapster is too new of a community`
`02:56.58`	`Saeris`	`so's the SC2 modding scene`
`02:57.29`	`Saeris`	`it would be harder to break in to it later than it would be to stick with it now`
`02:57.46`	`Bifuu`	`lol rrowland i know that feeling`
`02:57.59`	`Bifuu`	`i took my break came back and people are like, how are you a mod?`
`02:58.31`	`Saeris`	`this is why i don't post on the forums`
`02:58.42`	`Saeris`	`all the action's on IRC imo =P`
`02:58.50`	`Bifuu`	`yeah`
`02:58.54`	`Bifuu`	`i like it here better`
`02:59.05`	`Bifuu`	`but alot more pure mapping discussion happens there of course`
`02:59.18`	`Bifuu`	`here like every 5 minutes someone says penis and gets everyone off topic`
`02:59.30`	`Saeris`	`perhaps`
`02:59.39`	`Saeris`	`but i really need instant feedback when an issue comes up`
`02:59.43`	`Saeris`	`the forums are awful for that`
`02:59.53`	`rrowland`	`penis`
`03:00.13`	`Saeris`	`tbh i would rather be on vent than IRC, get even more done`
`03:00.15`	`Saeris`	`but oh well`
`03:00.25`	`rrowland`	`they have vent as well`
`03:00.32`	`Saeris`	`oh i know, i've been on it`
`03:00.42`	`Saeris`	`the times i have it was pretty dead`
`03:01.01`	`rrowland`	`It's usually that misu guy who pretends to be a girl`
`03:01.09`	`rrowland`	`I just log in, see him talking someone's ear off and log out`
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`03:01.17`	`Saeris`	`yup`
`03:01.22`	`ZarafFaraz`	`rrowland? who is that?`
`03:01.25`	`ZarafFaraz`	`:P`
`03:01.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Otixa, you around`
`03:01.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`?`
`03:01.34`	`rrowland`	`Misu right?`
`03:02.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Oh`
`03:02.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and I left`
`03:02.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and came back`
`03:02.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and had a bigger name`
`03:02.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Take that rrowland!`
`03:02.28`	`rrowland`	`Cause you're a hand holder`
`03:02.37`	`rrowland`	`You help the tards figure out where to find the .exe`
`03:02.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`03:03.20`	`Bifuu`	`prolly why no one knows me anymore since i stopped tutorials`
`03:03.38`	`Saeris`	`i'm the lurker whom people hardly know I'm here`
`03:04.18`	`rrowland`	`you and like 90 other people in this channel`
`03:04.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`there are 90 peoples here!?`
`03:04.54`	`Saeris`	`i think most of the people here are just perpetually afk`
`03:05.19`	`Bifuu`	`^`
`03:05.24`	`Saeris`	`i usually only speak up when i need help, just this week i'm fucking bored`
`03:06.02`	`rrowland`	`Come onnnnn`
`03:06.05`	`rrowland`	`Email meeeee`
`03:06.38`	`rrowland`	`I'm stuffing my face with chocolate right now`
`03:06.40`	`Saeris`	`this whole contest has been pretty hush hush`
`03:06.50`	`Saeris`	`blizz prolly forgot about it again`
`03:06.52`	`ZarafFaraz`	`who is this sotis guy?`
`03:07.04`	`Saeris`	`ekcolnovkol`
`03:07.05`	`rrowland`	`the guy who made sotis`
`03:07.18`	`ZarafFaraz`	`the DotA type game?`
`03:07.22`	`rrowland`	`yes`
`03:07.25`	`ZarafFaraz`	`ahh ok`
`03:07.33`	`rrowland`	`He got an invite to go to blizzcon, outside of the contest`
`03:07.41`	`ZarafFaraz`	`cause of the map?`
`03:07.45`	`rrowland`	`yes`
`03:07.57`	`ZarafFaraz`	`all expenses paid?`
`03:08.01`	`rrowland`	`yes`
`03:08.14`	`ZarafFaraz`	`cool`
`03:08.23`	`rrowland`	`I'd talk shit on it but I'm all out of shit to talk`
`03:08.31`	`Saeris`	`wish my map had stayed popular, maybe i woulda gotten that too`
`03:08.37`	`Saeris`	`oh well`
`03:08.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Wait`
`03:08.45`	`ZarafFaraz`	`well, did the Nexus Wars guy get a Blizzcon invite?`
`03:08.47`	`rrowland`	`Bottom line is the only reason it got anybody an invite is because it's dota related`
`03:08.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`so by making a DOTA map`
`03:08.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`he got invited?`
`03:08.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`That is teh ghey`
`03:09.00`	`rrowland`	`I know right`
`03:09.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`ekco`
`03:09.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I shall keel joo`
`03:09.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`i want to get a blizzcon invite`
`03:09.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and then reject it`
`03:09.26`	`ZarafFaraz`	`if the Nexus Wars guy didn't get an invite, that's proof that being popular wasn't the reason`
`03:09.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So that I can own Blizzard's face!`
`03:09.48`	`Saeris`	`nexus wars is shit on a stick`
`03:10.10`	`Saeris`	`popular shit is still shit, btw`
`03:11.02`	`Arthas-10`	`Saeris you suck at lurking`
`03:11.07`	`ZarafFaraz`	`well I'm hoping the crazy action in my map helps keep it popular`
`03:11.09`	`Arthas-10`	`now sixen and nic, those are lurkers`
`03:11.27`	`Saeris`	`also, the SotIS facebook has like 625 fans and ekco (or whomever he got to do my job for me) has been posting lots of videos lately of people reviewing the map`
`03:11.33`	`Bifuu`	`i half lurk`
`03:11.46`	`Saeris`	`arthas`
`03:11.51`	`Saeris`	`i might be active on here`
`03:12.04`	`Saeris`	`but i've got like.... 4 posts on the forums? 1 on the blizz forums`
`03:12.09`	`Saeris`	`sixen is all over those`
`03:12.21`	`Arthas-10`	`you dont lurk on forums`
`03:12.26`	`Arthas-10`	`there you just suck and dont post (like me)`
`03:12.27`	`Arthas-10`	`:D`
`03:12.38`	`Arthas-10`	`gasps`
`03:12.41`	`Arthas-10`	`Bifuu talked!?`
`03:12.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`he's been talkin' dummy`
`03:12.50`	`Arthas-10`	`also, penis`
`03:12.58`	`Bifuu`	`lol`
`03:12.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`my penis is bigger than all your penisi`
`03:13.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`penisai?`
`03:13.04`	`Saeris`	`naw i don't care to read like 90% of the forum stuff. just tutorials, some of the exercise things`
`03:13.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`penisie?`
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`03:13.14`	`Bifuu`	`peni`
`03:13.16`	`Arthas-10`	`penÃs`
`03:13.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`peni`
`03:13.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`aha`
`03:13.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you've got it`
`03:13.40`	`rrowland`	`bogjavlar`
`03:13.52`	`Arthas-10`	`although, boobies is a much better subject i still have to leave. so fucking late`
`03:13.55`	`Arthas-10`	`rrowland word!`
`03:14.09`	`Arthas-10`	`~seen Nash`
`03:14.17`	`purl`	`nash <~nn@81-234-225-23-no35.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 50d 4h 16m 28s ago, saying: 'unless you're the best'.`
`03:14.17`	`Arthas-10`	`is nash ever around anymore :D`
`03:15.51`	`ZarafFaraz`	`you know, i Blizzcon tickets are in such high demand, why are they so cheap?`
`03:15.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~seen The3laughingman`
`03:16.00`	`purl`	`ProzaicMuze: i haven't seen 'the3laughingman'`
`03:16.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~seen th3laughingman`
`03:16.10`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'th3laughingman', ProzaicMuze`
`03:16.11`	`Saeris`	`they really aren't for that venue, zaraf`
`03:16.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`gah`
`03:16.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`what is his stupid name`
`03:16.26`	`ZarafFaraz`	`what do you mean?`
`03:16.33`	`Saeris`	`i've been to the anaheim convetion center for Anime Expo`
`03:17.02`	`Saeris`	`that con had over 60,000 attendees that year, for about $60 for a 4 day con pass`
`03:17.14`	`Saeris`	`blizzcon has had less than a third of that every year`
`03:17.23`	`Saeris`	`and they charge twice as much`
`03:17.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`because it's Blizzard`
`03:17.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`they steals your monaiz`
`03:17.57`	`Saeris`	`i'm just saying, for the size of the venue, they can double the attendence and keep the same price easy`
`03:17.59`	`Arthas-10`	`and if you dont attend blizzon they will ban and feature your map`
`03:18.02`	`HeyRevolver`	`how much are blizzcon tickets?`
`03:18.05`	`Arthas-10`	`so you'd better go buy yourself a ticket`
`03:18.13`	`Arthas-10`	`ban you and feature your map*`
`03:18.20`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I'm just saying if the tickets are being sold out, it doesn't matter if they are charging twice as much, they could still charge more`
`03:18.26`	`Saeris`	`not to mention the place has a big concert venue attached, so they can't say they don't have a big enough stage`
`03:19.07`	`HeyRevolver`	`all they have to do to make the ticket price worht it is fill that stage with strippers for 4 hours a dsy`
`03:19.22`	`Saeris`	`why do they need to charge more? they showcase all their products, sell their products, and garner a huge ammount of attention to their products from the con`
`03:19.35`	`Saeris`	`they make way more money from that than the tickets`
`03:19.42`	`HeyRevolver`	`because strippers aint cheap`
`03:19.53`	`HeyRevolver`	`not Blizzard ones`
`03:19.54`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`03:21.05`	`Saeris`	`plus they get a bunch of money from other companies who are sponsering the event, such as direct tv, any computer hardware manufactuers providing computers, merchandisers`
`03:21.18`	`Saeris`	`blizz pockets all of that`
`03:21.29`	`Saeris`	`the tickets prolly just pay for the venue space`
`03:23.24`	`Saeris`	`lol, not like they really need to put up their staff in hotels either. it's only like an hour away from their HQ i think`
`03:23.55`	`Saeris`	`prolly spend more money on the after-con company disneyland trip as disneyland is literally right across the street`
`03:24.06`	`Sixen`	`=o`
`03:24.23`	`Saeris`	`though that would merely be speculation =P`
`03:28.59`	`Rodrigo`	`http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/8/121/NWWPodcast.mp3`
`03:29.01`	`Rodrigo`	`=]`
`03:29.37`	`Bifuu`	`Disneyland is meh`
`03:29.42`	`Bifuu`	`Disney World is like`
`03:29.47`	`Bifuu`	`OMG I WANNA GO NOOOOOW`
`03:29.51`	`Bifuu`	`and im 20`
`03:29.53`	`Bifuu`	`haha`
`03:30.03`	`Rodrigo`	`I went to disney word last month. I am 20`
`03:30.07`	`Rodrigo`	`world*`
`03:30.11`	`Saeris`	`well, i hate disney, so i'm fine without going to either, lol`
`03:30.14`	`Bifuu`	`it was awesome wasnt it`
`03:30.26`	`Bifuu`	`Saeris: Epcot`
`03:30.27`	`Rodrigo`	`I just liked the Space Mountain and a couple plays. The rest is mahh`
`03:30.28`	`Bifuu`	`go`
`03:30.40`	`Saeris`	`eventually i'm sure i'll go`
`03:30.42`	`Bifuu`	`did you just go to the magic Kingdom?`
`03:30.44`	`Rodrigo`	`But the Island of Adventure on Universal is awesome`
`03:30.49`	`Rodrigo`	`yup`
`03:30.55`	`Saeris`	`gf's a huge disney fan and her relatives are from florida`
`03:30.57`	`Bifuu`	`indeed that was at universal`
`03:31.15`	`Rodrigo`	`The wizarding world on Universal is AWESOME`
`03:31.17`	`Bifuu`	`but the true awesomeness in Disney World is all the parks, not just the MAgic Kingdom`
`03:31.20`	`Sporkmonger`	`my hatred for Disney is endless`
`03:31.30`	`Bifuu`	`hell yeah it was Rodrigo haha`
`03:31.41`	`Rodrigo`	`the castle was awesome`
`03:31.46`	`Bifuu`	`yeah`
`03:31.53`	`Bifuu`	`i wasnt expecting it to be as cool as it was`
`03:32.03`	`*** join/#sc2mapster mahashiro (~chatzilla@c-68-42-69-56.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)`
`03:32.03`	`Bifuu`	`"wtf is this shit? a tour?"`
`03:32.03`	`Rodrigo`	`I was getting high just flying in that broom`
`03:32.10`	`Bifuu`	`"ZOMMMMGGGGGGGG WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"`
`03:32.32`	`Rodrigo`	`my camera stop working inside Hogwards. I had to buy another one`
`03:32.43`	`Saeris`	`now that`
`03:32.48`	`Saeris`	`is something i do want to see`
`03:33.02`	`Saeris`	`cuz i'm a huge harry potter fan >.<`
`03:33.07`	`Rodrigo`	`Hogwarts at Universal Studios is fucking awesome`
`03:33.22`	`Bifuu`	`http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs209.snc4/38795_450244246978_590696978_5996062_4214221_n.jpg`
`03:33.24`	`Bifuu`	`see it?`
`03:33.25`	`Bifuu`	`haha`
`03:33.37`	`Rodrigo`	`I got better pictures`
`03:33.39`	`HeyRevolver`	`holy balls`
`03:33.43`	`HeyRevolver`	`they actually build a castle?`
`03:33.46`	`Rodrigo`	`let me grab my pictures`
`03:33.47`	`HeyRevolver`	`built`
`03:33.47`	`Rodrigo`	`yes`
`03:33.50`	`Rodrigo`	`they did`
`03:33.52`	`Saeris`	`yep`
`03:33.56`	`Saeris`	`the whole thing`
`03:33.58`	`Rodrigo`	`you walk inside the castle`
`03:34.02`	`Bifuu`	`yeah`
`03:34.05`	`HeyRevolver`	`oh`
`03:34.06`	`HeyRevolver`	`damn`
`03:34.06`	`Rodrigo`	`and you use the phone cabine to fly`
`03:34.08`	`HeyRevolver`	`I thought you flew on brooms`
`03:34.10`	`Bifuu`	`http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs113.ash2/38973_450961881978_590696978_6010753_4885707_n.jpg`
`03:34.15`	`Rodrigo`	`you flew`
`03:34.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Blizzard is so gonna hate me`
`03:34.32`	`Rodrigo`	`you get out of the castle flying through the window`
`03:34.40`	`HeyRevolver`	`Ohhhhhh its a ride`
`03:34.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`"Zomg who is dis gai!? He askeded like fiddy questions and we has to asnwer them naow!"`
`03:34.46`	`Rodrigo`	`I got a youtube video I made there`
`03:34.47`	`HeyRevolver`	`I thought it was like a tour of harry potter paraphanelis`
`03:34.53`	`Bifuu`	`the coolest part was this`
`03:34.54`	`Bifuu`	`http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs112.ash2/38963_450962536978_590696978_6010765_3738202_n.jpg`
`03:34.59`	`Bifuu`	`FUCKIN HOLLOGRAMS`
`03:35.13`	`Rodrigo`	`HERE: I MADE IT AT HOGWARTS/HOGSMEADE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0cvn_hOdJ0`
`03:35.40`	`Bifuu`	`oh the memories`
`03:35.45`	`HeyRevolver`	`Rod you were just rollin around by yourself?`
`03:35.48`	`Bifuu`	`tell me you tried the butter beer`
`03:35.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`What is Snape saw you`
`03:35.55`	`HeyRevolver`	`if`
`03:36.24`	Griffith`	`How do you use a trigger to say, enable concussive shells on a marauder?`
`03:36.28`	Griffith`	`whats the action`
`03:36.34`	`Dryeyece`	`I thought it was Buzzer Beer`
`03:37.00`	`Bifuu`	`was butter`
`03:37.09`	`Rodrigo`	`HeyRevolver, yes`
`03:37.17`	`Rodrigo`	`I wanted the butterbeer`
`03:37.20`	`HeyRevolver`	`that looks fun`
`03:37.21`	`Rodrigo`	`but the line was HUGE`
`03:37.29`	`Bifuu`	`haha`
`03:37.32`	`Bifuu`	`yeah`
`03:37.34`	`Saeris`	`i'll have to go to that next time i'm in florida`
`03:37.37`	`Bifuu`	`theres a semi secret line`
`03:37.47`	`Rodrigo`	`the restaurant, they ask me "What the muggle want to eat"`
`03:37.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`so Biffu do you go every weekend?`
`03:37.59`	`Bifuu`	`nope`
`03:38.01`	`Bifuu`	`lol`
`03:38.04`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`03:38.05`	`Bifuu`	`i live nowhere near there`
`03:38.15`	`HeyRevolver`	`How do you know about the secret line?`
`03:38.19`	`Bifuu`	`i went for 2 days of that counts`
`03:38.24`	`Bifuu`	`we stumbled on it`
`03:38.28`	`Saeris`	`though hey, this is that off topic thing we were talking about earlier`
`03:38.30`	`Saeris`	`lol`
`03:38.35`	`Bifuu`	`yeah it is`
`03:38.41`	`Rodrigo`	`I bet there's a secret passage at hogwarts to cut in line`
`03:38.43`	`Bifuu`	`but its BUTTER BEER`
`03:38.47`	`Saeris`	`anyways, soda time for me`
`03:38.48`	`Bifuu`	`prolly`
`03:38.50`	`Saeris`	`brb`
`03:38.56`	`Bifuu`	`since there were passages in the book`
`03:39.09`	`Rodrigo`	`the hologram of dumbledord was FUCKING AWESOME`
`03:39.11`	`*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210)`
`03:39.14`	`HeyRevolver`	`http://www.mugglenet.com/misc/rosmertas/butterbeer.shtml`
`03:39.34`	`HeyRevolver`	`1/2 tblespoon of butter`
`03:39.37`	`HeyRevolver`	`ew`
`03:39.38`	`Rodrigo`	`when I firt saw that, I was like, the author of Dumbledor is here?!??!`
`03:39.45`	`Bifuu`	`that sound sabout what it tasted like`
`03:39.56`	`HeyRevolver`	`that would make me sick lol`
`03:39.59`	`Bifuu`	`yeah the effects were awesome`
`03:40.01`	`HeyRevolver`	`but i bet it tasted awesome`
`03:40.05`	`Bifuu`	`yeah it did`
`03:40.15`	`Bifuu`	`they had a regular kind and a frozen kind`
`03:40.21`	`Saeris`	`it will be quite a while before i ever go to that theme park though`
`03:40.33`	`Rodrigo`	`Look at this pic, I took it inside the castle: http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAFSWHvzKIiaRDaHMH12ZO6NvUpWoPkfYhlyCMXeLdI5spUh8soQtITTNgQFhkhCig7O6rqQKX3E0ecFX7ebiTM8Am1T1UOqY4yNUMEI4lzjfHQTUUSyB89SV.jpg`
`03:40.34`	`Saeris`	`i'd much rather spend the money on going to Japan again`
`03:40.38`	`Bifuu`	`me and my friends are ganna make it a tradition lol`
`03:40.43`	`Saeris`	`god damn if that wasn't the best trip of my life`
`03:40.54`	`Rodrigo`	`that pic was inside the Defense Against the DArk Arts Classroom`
`03:41.14`	`Rodrigo`	`This one too: http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAACmjkEdGgDsqhwAa-EP885ijaeNAmLI2wUauLgkvHJhDcn9hOh6GdHZEBsngjidn9_nLEJoYKKaRfvA-EwpXh3IAm1T1UGmCn22idsUuPLIIS5EKp1ARwtrY.jpg`
`03:41.14`	`HeyRevolver`	`Exit sign looks too much like the ones we use`
`03:41.19`	`Rodrigo`	`LOL`
`03:41.19`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`03:41.23`	`Rodrigo`	`yeah, that sucks`
`03:41.32`	`Bifuu`	`my friend has better pics lemme get them`
`03:41.45`	`Rodrigo`	`Check this one outside at night (when my camera broke): http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAANcY_AJ3eBN5E77WiZcPI9xVQmK4iFLiLCIeU3x_BH6bG9CRXHlo_xwMoG0LiOnxhXyQOISnbOIFqdpBPuEuEVIAm1T1UFp9n2OV-SCxr-oqtBsdcbxThnkV.jpg`
`03:41.53`	`HeyRevolver`	`holy SHIT`
`03:41.56`	`HeyRevolver`	`that looks awesome`
`03:42.10`	`Bifuu`	`oh wow`
`03:42.13`	`Bifuu`	`i never saw it at night`
`03:42.25`	`Bifuu`	`http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs215.snc4/39094_424095592892_512387892_5000516_4925305_n.jpg thats the thing you rode on in the castle`
`03:42.30`	`Rodrigo`	`the talking frames: http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAG0L0nj-e_AVLMqAqr0nUHzvOfYzIgX6v1LVsui6cmc7QFcilC_4LRasG9gdpSF0Bi3yxMSLCnH94up_0JKzNuEAm1T1UHhpkgh1oj4layjRC7BlAWjk91fg.jpg`
`03:42.34`	`Bifuu`	`(im the guy far left)`
`03:42.49`	`rrowland`	`brb pretending you guys arent talking about harry potter`
`03:43.07`	`Rodrigo`	`Dumbledord Office: http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAEJS4as8VTaK9fPltlz2Gz5432bU1Eal_3yVGG0KbUNg23phiizNOVwP2FKOeGIGQ8Fc6L-M1kHWtGU5hE44OxEAm1T1UHfCjb5wclOAno0rQj89yUop1qju.jpg`
`03:43.16`	`Saeris`	`too bad those all look like actual paintings`
`03:43.22`	`Rodrigo`	`http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAALDdwD6NHY8n7rxgVHcIgfEf3tlkz8-miA1FBUo1veIFklFr5byfF6OMogM-lm-YUl6iSoGH25ckqIUEYeMyVZoAm1T1ULYmlaVRuUgVZt_SRtbAuovLT9xu.jpg`
`03:43.30`	`Bifuu`	`DUDE`
`03:43.33`	`Saeris`	`i was gonna say, if they actually went the distance to set up all of them to be LCD screens`
`03:43.37`	`Bifuu`	`that statue was awesome`
`03:43.41`	`Bifuu`	`i got that picture too`
`03:43.42`	`Bifuu`	`lol`
`03:43.44`	`Rodrigo`	`what about this one: http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAADEa4xB4foXulO30xLPo10btr0jJ40Gzj7AWZuxguRjqKB5u5AotLh-R3qWM213dcLGi6K-92rR3c4ZP9HeMyoEAm1T1UKKBLrnYyC12dJjvkETEgdXPIy81.jpg`
`03:43.44`	`*** join/#sc2mapster crazyfingers (ae41342b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.65.52.43)`
`03:43.57`	`Bifuu`	`http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs204.snc4/38522_424095222892_512387892_5000498_1287147_n.jpg`
`03:44.05`	`Rodrigo`	`This is the last one: http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/OgAAAL3cTaNNydWvzU7TdWJzF3oMOhNojEfxk9Kql_jNcpOypavVin3yxdPcTv2TNysyJ2WyJGUmWmluC6lcSrJlqGIAm1T1UL3E9ICrK8a9sOyTw5-zQ2l7PqJ0.jpg`
`03:44.06`	`Bifuu`	`yeah didnt get that`
`03:44.11`	`Rodrigo`	`at the hogwarts express`
`03:45.05`	`Rodrigo`	`Did u watch the beuchbattonsblablabla play?`
`03:45.14`	`Rodrigo`	`with that girls dressed in blue`
`03:45.20`	`Rodrigo`	`from the other school`
`03:45.30`	`Bifuu`	`http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs140.ash2/40356_424093662892_512387892_5000438_6858207_n.jpg`
`03:45.33`	`Bifuu`	`those?`
`03:45.41`	`Rodrigo`	`yeah`
`03:46.00`	`Bifuu`	`we didnt watch the whole thing`
`03:46.09`	Griffith`	`Is it possible to give only unit a talent , say concussive shells, but not to the entire player?`
`03:46.14`	`Bifuu`	`while the crowd gathered for that we bolted for the short lines`
`03:46.31`	`crazyfingers`	`anything's possibe griffith ;)`
`03:46.42`	`Bifuu`	Griffith`: prolly with a behavior of some kind
`03:46.43`	`crazyfingers`	`just put a requirement that the unit have a buff or somethin'`
`03:47.06`	`Bifuu`	`when did you go Rodrigo?`
`03:47.19`	`progammer`	`what is this wall of link infront of my computer`
`03:47.22`	`Rodrigo`	`july`
`03:47.29`	`crazyfingers`	`smells like ren fair to me`
`03:47.30`	`Rodrigo`	`end of july`
`03:47.35`	`Rodrigo`	`2 months ago`
`03:47.37`	`crazyfingers`	`sweat and honey meed`
`03:47.41`	`Rodrigo`	`2-3`
`03:48.01`	`Bifuu`	`i went the first week of august`
`03:48.13`	`Rodrigo`	`Island of Adventure, I-Fly, and SeaWorld were the best ones`
`03:48.48`	`Rodrigo`	`I loved the rollercoaster at the SeaWorld. It's the best one in US`
`03:49.15`	`Bifuu`	`see if this video works for you`
`03:49.16`	`Bifuu`	`http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=424662787892`
`03:49.19`	Griffith`	`Bifuu, what do you mean by behavior?`
`03:49.28`	`Rodrigo`	`not visible`
`03:49.31`	`Bifuu`	`lame`
`03:49.57`	`Bifuu`	Griffith`: like a buff or something like crazyfingers said that overrides the requirement
`03:50.50`	Griffith`	`erm`
`03:50.58`	Griffith`	`requirement that the unit has a buff?`
`03:51.34`	`crazyfingers`	`anyone feel like playing some cosmic eclipse on US server?`
`03:52.14`	`crazyfingers`	`booooo`
`03:52.24`	`LordAbyss`	`ahhh i just cracked my back`
`03:52.32`	`Bifuu`	Griffith`: im not too sure atm exactly how it would be set up
`03:53.00`	`Bifuu`	`writing design docs for my map and its looking more and more impracticle for a sc2 map lol`
`03:53.15`	`crazyfingers`	`y's that bifuu?`
`03:53.25`	`Otixa`	`Bifuu, do it properly >=[`
`03:53.31`	`Otixa`	`hits Bifuu with a brick`
`03:53.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Otixa or Xaragoth`
`03:53.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you here?`
`03:53.39`	`Bifuu`	`do what properly?`
`03:53.41`	`Otixa`	`No`
`03:53.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Or someone related to ModCraft`
`03:53.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`aha`
`03:53.44`	`Otixa`	`We're not`
`03:53.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I founded joo!`
`03:53.54`	`Otixa`	`D:`
`03:54.00`	`Otixa`	`Bifuu, GDD :P`
`03:54.03`	`Bifuu`	`crazyfingers: the sheer scale of it`
`03:54.10`	`crazyfingers`	`ah, been there man`
`03:54.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`was it you or Xaragoth who wanted something from me for a future Modcraft?`
`03:54.16`	`Bifuu`	`im too lazy to do GDD for a map`
`03:54.17`	`Bifuu`	`lol`
`03:54.24`	`Otixa`	`ProzaicMuze, I dunno`
`03:54.25`	`crazyfingers`	`what are you using to record your thoughts? Google docs is a great way`
`03:54.31`	`crazyfingers`	`use tabs and spreadsheets`
`03:54.32`	`Otixa`	`Bifuu, no you're not >:[`
`03:54.40`	`Bifuu`	`notebook and pencil lol`
`03:54.45`	`crazyfingers`	`NOOOoooo`
`03:54.58`	`Saeris`	`what kind of map are you trying to make bifuu?`
`03:54.59`	`Otixa`	`ProzaicMuze, why? You got something for tomor--today?`
`03:55.07`	`Saeris`	`kinda missed all that`
`03:55.07`	`crazyfingers`	`you should try out google docs, great organizing tool and you can later link it digitally to other people should you decide to`
`03:55.07`	`Bifuu`	`Saeris: Single player RPG`
`03:55.21`	`Saeris`	`well what kind of things are going to be issues?`
`03:55.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol I'm still not entirely sure what ModCraft is about, so I wouldn't know if I do or not until you explain what kind of things you're looking for`
`03:55.35`	`Bifuu`	`crazyfingers: i will in the future but right now im like just starting to plan it and i mainly plan it in class`
`03:55.43`	`crazyfingers`	`ah right on`
`03:55.58`	`crazyfingers`	`Been there, my mod started as a school assignment as well ;)`
`03:56.01`	`Saeris`	`and yea bifuu that's basically what i do too`
`03:56.08`	`Saeris`	`got a stack of them next to me atm`
`03:56.09`	`Saeris`	`lol`
`03:56.12`	`LordAbyss`	`so does my man otixa have me still ignored?`
`03:56.32`	`LordAbyss`	`because i have a real question for him :)`
`03:56.50`	`Bifuu`	`its not an assignment tho`
`03:56.58`	`Bifuu`	`its what i do instead of mya ssignments lol`
`03:57.05`	`Saeris`	`yea`
`03:57.10`	`Saeris`	`same here, think we got it`
`03:57.11`	`Saeris`	`lol`
`03:57.12`	`Otixa`	`Ditto ;p`
`03:57.40`	`Saeris`	`though actually i talked one of my department heads in to letting me do an independent study course of SC2 mapping this semester`
`03:57.42`	`Saeris`	`pretty sweet`
`03:57.57`	`Otixa`	`...what`
`03:58.01`	`Otixa`	`I want in >:\|`
`03:58.15`	`crazyfingers`	`i'd kill for a class of mine to revolve around the SC II editor`
`03:58.30`	`crazyfingers`	`F mel scripting`
`03:58.36`	`Saeris`	`take 18 courses in a graphics design department like mine then ask the department head for a favor like i did`
`03:58.37`	`Saeris`	`lol`
`03:58.54`	`crazyfingers`	`ha, i'm so close to graduating it's pointless at this point`
`03:59.03`	`crazyfingers`	`that's awesome though`
`03:59.11`	`Saeris`	`it was actually only possible because one of my instructors is only a few years older than me`
`03:59.16`	`Saeris`	`and he's also a big starcraft fan`
`03:59.25`	`Saeris`	`so he sorta does the grading for my work`
`04:00.02`	`crazyfingers`	`well, you may think of it as cheating the system, but in my view its far more relevant than anything they're teaching today in most classes`
`04:00.09`	`Saeris`	`we don't have any real game design courses at my school, but many people go through the program i'm in as a stepping stone`
`04:00.17`	Griffith`	`blah I Can't figure it out`
`04:00.18`	Griffith`	`driving me nuts`
`04:00.21`	`crazyfingers`	`yeah, game design is a tricky thing`
`04:00.34`	`Saeris`	`fyi i'm only in community college`
`04:00.39`	`crazyfingers`	`only way to really break in is be motivated and work your ass off on your own time to create something awesome`
`04:00.47`	`crazyfingers`	`well or no someone of course ;)`
`04:00.51`	`crazyfingers`	`*know`
`04:00.51`	`Saeris`	`and i've taken nearly everything so i needed the units, that was also why i took this`
`04:01.06`	`Saeris`	`yea`
`04:01.36`	`Saeris`	`i just said, hey, i'm doing all this studying on my own learning something you guys will never teach here but i need to learn it anyways`
`04:01.40`	`Saeris`	`give me units for my efforts`
`04:01.42`	`Saeris`	`they said yes`
`04:01.51`	`crazyfingers`	`haha, awesome`
`04:02.09`	`Ornloff`	`any way to remove a doodad after i created it in a trigger?`
`04:02.24`	`crazyfingers`	`gotta be`
`04:02.47`	`crazyfingers`	`...opening editor now`
`04:02.51`	`Saeris`	`did it over the summer for drawing as well, cuz the actual drawing instructors here suck, whereas my photoshop teacher was a former drawing teacher`
`04:02.56`	`Saeris`	`so i took it with him instead`
`04:03.15`	`Saeris`	`class i'm in now is run by a total bitch, not learning anything from it >.<`
`04:03.18`	`Ornloff`	`any ideas?`
`04:03.35`	`Saeris`	`think crazy is looking for it`
`04:03.44`	`crazyfingers`	`there's a destroy doodads in region action`
`04:03.44`	`Saeris`	`brb`
`04:03.52`	`crazyfingers`	`you could teleport a region to your doodad and then detsroy it`
`04:03.56`	`crazyfingers`	`like a small region`
`04:04.40`	`Ornloff`	`yeah i have it but if u create it in a trig idk if it works, tried it didn't really`
`04:05.04`	`crazyfingers`	`hmm, you had the doodad in the region?`
`04:05.40`	`crazyfingers`	`well i'm out for a bit guys, got invited to some L4D`
`04:05.43`	`Saeris`	`hmmm`
`04:05.45`	`crazyfingers`	`be back later`
`04:06.04`	`Saeris`	`ornloff another option would be adding a point to each doodad you want to destroy`
`04:06.11`	`Saeris`	`then use the region around that point`
`04:06.19`	`Ornloff`	`I have a region there, and I create the doodads model through triggers, then i say`
`04:06.35`	`Ornloff`	`remove fog grey doodads in region`
`04:06.41`	`Ornloff`	`remove fog mist doodads in region`
`04:06.45`	`Ornloff`	`doesnt work.`
`04:06.47`	`Saeris`	`hmmm`
`04:06.49`	`Ornloff`	`how i added was`
`04:06.58`	`Ornloff`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:06.59`	`Saeris`	`you sure you're making doodads or just actors?`
`04:07.06`	`Saeris`	`might want to remove actor instead`
`04:07.11`	`Ornloff`	`hmm`
`04:07.14`	`Saeris`	`and store the created actor in a variable`
`04:07.19`	`Saeris`	`to easily reference it`
`04:07.20`	`Saeris`	`got it?`
`04:07.28`	`Otixa`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reOLeLX0Q9U`
`04:07.36`	`Ornloff`	`how do I store it as a variable`
`04:07.52`	`Saeris`	`i'm not sure, just suggesting that might help if it works`
`04:07.58`	`Ornloff`	`hmm`
`04:08.00`	`Saeris`	`i don't have the editor open`
`04:08.00`	`Ornloff`	`not sure how itd work`
`04:08.09`	`Saeris`	`lemme go se`
`04:08.10`	`Saeris`	`see`
`04:08.13`	`Ornloff`	`ok thanks`
`04:08.19`	`Ornloff`	`not too familiar with them`
`04:08.36`	`Saeris`	`me neither, but there aught to be some way`
`04:09.31`	`Saeris`	`see what i'm getting at here is that doodads are like units, they have actors, they aren't actors themselves`
`04:09.41`	`Ornloff`	`yeah`
`04:09.43`	`Saeris`	`so when you're creating an actor, you can't delete a doodad`
`04:10.23`	`Ornloff`	`theres no add doodad to point or whatever :-\`
`04:10.46`	`Saeris`	`not surprising`
`04:10.48`	`Ornloff`	`yeah`
`04:11.02`	`Ornloff`	`i mean after its created`
`04:11.08`	`Ornloff`	`it should recognize its in the region`
`04:11.10`	`Ornloff`	`so stupid`
`04:11.16`	`Saeris`	`yea ornloff`
`04:11.24`	`Saeris`	`you can create a variable and set it's type to actor`
`04:11.41`	`Saeris`	`when you create the actor, just do a set variable "x" to last created actor`
`04:11.42`	Griffith`	`What trigger lets you order one unit group to attack another unit group? IE. I have 2 reapers and 5 lings, I want the 5 lings to keep chasing the reapers until they are all dead`
`04:11.44`	`Saeris`	`that aught to do it`
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`04:13.09`	`Saeris`	`let me know if that works for you ornloff`
`04:13.14`	`Tordy`	`DIABLO`
`04:13.16`	`Tordy`	`LORD OF TERROR`
`04:13.16`	`Saeris`	`as for unit groups attacking unit groups`
`04:13.18`	`Tordy`	`>:)`
`04:13.19`	`Saeris`	`um`
`04:13.29`	`Saeris`	`well there is an issue order to unit group`
`04:13.30`	`Tordy`	`im not familar with diablo lore`
`04:13.30`	Griffith`	`Saeris, halp? :)`
`04:13.35`	Griffith`	`issue order h`
`04:13.35`	Griffith`	`m`
`04:13.44`	`Tordy`	`is diablo the strongest thing in the diablo universe:?`
`04:13.45`	`Saeris`	`but to kill each unit in a unit group`
`04:13.46`	`Saeris`	`well`
`04:13.46`	Griffith`	`Pick each unit in Unit Group?`
`04:13.55`	`Tordy`	`or is there some higher entity`
`04:14.04`	`Saeris`	`let me check really quick actually`
`04:14.23`	`Rodrigo`	`I know what map won the Blizz map contest!!`
`04:14.29`	Griffith`	`I was thinking of doing while loops, while Reaper 1 != dead, have all units chase after reaper 1, then, while Reaper 2 !=dead, have all units chase after reaper 2`
`04:14.29`	`Rodrigo`	`It was the BURNING TIDE!`
`04:14.37`	Griffith`	`but thats seems really crude`
`04:14.50`	`Rodrigo`	`Blizz News: Burning Tide wins the map contest`
`04:14.52`	`Saeris`	`Issue order to Unit Group, you can use that to tell the zerglings to attack`
`04:14.52`	`Saeris`	`but`
`04:14.56`	`Saeris`	`the real problem`
`04:15.00`	`Saeris`	`is having multiple targets`
`04:15.19`	`Saeris`	`yea okay`
`04:15.24`	`Saeris`	`Order Targeting Unit Group`
`04:15.30`	`Saeris`	`that should let you attack that group`
`04:16.03`	`Tordy`	`cmon guys`
`04:16.04`	`Tordy`	`help a bro out`
`04:16.07`	Griffith`	`is that what its called?`
`04:16.08`	Griffith`	`I can't find it`
`04:16.59`	`Saeris`	`griffith, first make a new action with Issue Order to Unit Group, then in that where you have (ability command), change that that from order with no target to order targeting unit group`
`04:17.30`	Griffith`	`ok`
`04:17.31`	Griffith`	`ty`
`04:21.56`	Griffith`	`Saeris, no luck`
`04:22.00`	Griffith`	`they just sit there`
`04:25.46`	Griffith`	`oh nm`
`04:28.45`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`holy`
`04:28.46`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`shit`
`04:28.50`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`this custom map was so boring`
`04:28.57`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`i literally fell asleep for 3 hours`
`04:29.00`	`Tordy`	`bet it was mine`
`04:29.04`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`oh my god`
`04:29.06`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`no, it was`
`04:29.08`	`Tordy`	`hi ekcolnovkol\|afk!`
`04:29.10`	`Tordy`	`:]`
`04:29.11`	`progammer`	`if you played for 3h i would not say it was boring`
`04:29.15`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`elite special forces`
`04:29.21`	`Tordy`	`which one`
`04:29.22`	Griffith`	`how taxing is an event trigger like once every 1 second?`
`04:29.37`	`Tordy`	`depends what kind and how many actions are in the trigger`
`04:29.46`	Griffith`	`1?`
`04:29.51`	`Tordy`	`what action`
`04:29.52`	Griffith`	`issue attack order?`
`04:29.55`	`Tordy`	`oh it's fine`
`04:29.57`	`Tordy`	`no biggie`
`04:30.13`	`Bifuu`	`i shjould try to find a person to do terrain for my rpg lol`
`04:30.17`	`Tordy`	`hi Bifuu`
`04:30.22`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`no`
`04:30.23`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`i`
`04:30.23`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`damn`
`04:30.25`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`i fell asleep`
`04:30.29`	`Bifuu`	`hi`
`04:30.30`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`and now my neck hurts`
`04:30.32`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`> _<"`
`04:30.36`	`Tordy`	`do you need a hug?`
`04:30.38`	`Tordy`	`;3`
`04:30.39`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`yes`
`04:30.40`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`:(`
`04:30.41`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`i feel like`
`04:30.46`	`Saeris`	`bifuu i might be willing to help`
`04:30.46`	`Saeris`	`lol`
`04:30.49`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`the game stole time from me`
`04:31.04`	`Bifuu`	`its alot of terrain`
`04:31.09`	`Bifuu`	`A LOT`
`04:31.11`	`Tordy`	`i wanna add so many heroes`
`04:31.17`	`Tordy`	`but no one would even use heroes`
`04:31.21`	`Tordy`	`argh`
`04:31.21`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`<---`
`04:31.25`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`bring them here`
`04:31.26`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`; )`
`04:31.54`	`Tordy`	`i have like 6 heroes in mind right now but too lazy to implement them`
`04:31.58`	`Tordy`	`damn data editor is too scary`
`04:32.24`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`to`
`04:32.24`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`so`
`04:32.27`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`write them up on me site`
`04:32.29`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`<3`
`04:32.29`	`Tordy`	`butt`
`04:32.46`	`Tordy`	`what's a charging sound in the editor?`
`04:32.55`	`Tordy`	`something like sharp piercing charging soud`
`04:32.58`	`Tordy`	`sound`
`04:33.11`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`like`
`04:33.12`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`charge?`
`04:33.14`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`o _o`
`04:33.18`	`Tordy`	`not zealot charge`
`04:33.19`	`Tordy`	`something like`
`04:33.27`	`Tordy`	`kerrigan's instant kill spell`
`04:33.44`	Griffith`	`under events, say i have EVENT1, EVENT2, are they by default in OR or AND statements?`
`04:33.50`	Griffith`	`ie. does event1 and 2 BOTH have to happen?`
`04:33.57`	Griffith`	`or EITHER one is ok`
`04:35.16`	`Tordy`	`or the yamato charge sound`
`04:35.30`	`Tordy`	`but sharper`
`04:35.35`	`Tordy`	`iunno`
`04:35.37`	`Tordy`	`higher pitch`
`04:35.47`	`Tordy`	`oh wait i can change the pitch`
`04:35.48`	`Tordy`	`dug`
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`04:52.45`	`FahqueL`	`how do i make a behavior ability toggle on/off?`
`04:55.17`	`Dryeyece`	`anyone good with triggers answer a quick question?`
`04:57.02`	`Dryeyece`	`if you for example add an action camera follow unit group and in the box at the bottom it says Follow for Player 1 ( the 1 is underscored and highlighted) (Last Created Units) does that mean Player 1?`
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`05:02.01`	`rrowland`	`You're just making shit up right rodrigo?`
`05:06.53`	`Lilianna`	`Dryeyece, Blue Underscored usually means its variable, so it being 1 does mean player 1`
`05:06.58`	`Lilianna`	`it just means, you can change it`
`05:06.59`	`Lilianna`	`basically`
`05:08.13`	`Dryeyece`	`ok`
`05:08.29`	`Dryeyece`	`so how do I make a trigger refer to a specific unit onwed by a player?`
`05:08.41`	`Dryeyece`	`without that unit already being placed on the map inside the editor`
`05:09.07`	`Lilianna`	`Depends on the trigger`
`05:09.10`	`Dryeyece`	`or only follow a certain players Heroic Unit`
`05:09.24`	`Dryeyece`	`a camera follow one =p`
`05:09.36`	`Lilianna`	`I havent messed with too many triggers, digging in data alot. :)`
`05:09.58`	`Lilianna`	`If you have a variable holding whatever unit is picked by the player`
`05:10.13`	`Lilianna`	`you can use the function, Player Owning Unit (Unit Variable)`
`05:10.14`	`Lilianna`	`I believe`
`05:10.28`	`Lilianna`	`Or something similar`
`05:11.08`	`Dryeyece`	`Yeah Ive tried making a variable like that but no joy o far 8)`
`05:12.20`	`Dryeyece`	`I thin I got it`
`05:12.43`	`Dryeyece`	`I used Last Created Unit, and the only trigger based unit creation I have is the one that created your hero when you pick him`
`05:13.07`	`Dryeyece`	`so that would work wouldnt it? regardless of whether or not that last created unit creates units`
`05:13.43`	`Lilianna`	`Yes that should work`
`05:15.12`	Griffith`	`if a Unit dies, is it automatically removed from the unit group?`
`05:15.17`	Griffith`	`from its* unit group`
`05:16.08`	`Lilianna`	`Maybe!`
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`05:31.29`	`Tordy`	`sweet`
`05:32.26`	Griffith`	`I'm looking for data structures ... ie: LVL1: 5 Reapers, 12 Lings, LVL 2: 12 ultras, 5 lings, 33 marines, etc.`
`05:32.33`	Griffith`	`How can I best "store" this information?`
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`05:37.59`	`Saeris`	`um, i would say various arrays`
`05:38.01`	`Saeris`	`but`
`05:38.15`	`Saeris`	`you'd needa systematize your numbers`
`05:38.47`	`Saeris`	`using the levels as your index to loop through your arrays`
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`05:39.20`	Griffith`	`ugh`
`05:39.30`	`Saeris`	`because the hardest part won't be the unit types, it will be the number of them you're spawning`
`05:39.32`	Griffith`	`i wish we can just do struct var[5] like in C`
`05:39.53`	`Saeris`	`well i'm not at all a programmer, unless triggers count`
`05:40.39`	Griffith`	`just that i don't want to make a million triggers`
`05:40.50`	Griffith`	`when I can make one and a data table`
`05:40.55`	`Saeris`	`i understand`
`05:41.01`	Griffith`	`how do tower defence ppl do it`
`05:41.13`	`Saeris`	`it depends`
`05:41.16`	`Saeris`	`some hard code it`
`05:41.20`	Griffith`	`UGH`
`05:41.21`	`Saeris`	`and that's the dumb way`
`05:41.46`	`Saeris`	`mine increments variables at the end of each level, and uses that information to call info from other variables`
`05:41.58`	`Saeris`	`you can do something like that`
`05:41.58`	`Saeris`	`but`
`05:42.08`	`Saeris`	`here's the thing`
`05:42.20`	`Saeris`	`if you have 1 unit type one level, then 2 the next, then one again`
`05:42.42`	`Saeris`	`if that number is arbitrary, how can you make a system to consistantly change that number with one trigger?`
`05:44.07`	`Saeris`	`you can do something like, if level = 3 6 9, etc, then set a variable to whichever it is for that level, but if you're gonna have a system that doesn't have any sort of consistency, then there's no point`
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`05:48.00`	`Lilianna`	`A ragged Matrix of Units`
`05:48.18`	`Otixa`	`slaps Lilianna with a brick`
`05:48.18`	`Lilianna`	`I dunno. c.c`
`05:48.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`. . .`
`05:48.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`He thinks that's charming`
`05:48.31`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`05:48.43`	`Lilianna`	`Too bad it wasing a log, I need some more fiber`
`05:49.12`	`Otixa`	`Are you happy about the brick, Lilianna? :>`
`05:49.26`	`Lilianna`	`Im indecisive`
`05:49.33`	`Otixa`	`Psh`
`05:49.33`	`Lilianna`	`I dont know what to do with it`
`05:49.42`	`Otixa`	`You can slap PM with it`
`05:49.44`	`Otixa`	`nods`
`05:50.48`	`rrowland`	`1 hour 10 minutes until i lose all faith in the last corporate company i had faith in`
`05:50.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you slap me with it I'll remove the brand`
`05:51.08`	`Lilianna`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu5alNFHrpM&fmt=18`
`05:51.12`	`Lilianna`	`I was shared this`
`05:51.15`	`Lilianna`	`so I share it with you`
`05:51.26`	`Lilianna`	`just dont play it too loudly if your mother is in the next room`
`05:51.54`	`Otixa`	`gives Lili a sammich`
`05:51.57`	`Lilianna`	`starts her brick house, one brick at at ime.`
`05:52.38`	`Otixa`	`:>`
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`05:59.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`hmm`
`06:00.11`	`DarkRevenant`	`I finally implemented vector acceleration and decceleration, independent of the velocity, with a top speed, and interpolation for it`
`06:00.22`	`DarkRevenant`	`it was Hell`
`06:00.26`	`DarkRevenant`	`but I succeeded`
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`06:04.05`	`LordAbyss`	`otixa did you get my pm or am i still on ignores?`
`06:04.13`	`DarkRevenant`	`way more difficult than calculating the terrain normal, doing hard-body collisions between the environment and projectile (and projectile-projectile)`
`06:04.56`	`LordAbyss`	`anyone hear of Ardupilot?`
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`06:12.23`	`halohalo`	`So ... Has Blizzard announced the winners yet?`
`06:12.48`	`LordAbyss`	`formula for blizzard dates`
`06:13.07`	`LordAbyss`	`x+5`
`06:13.21`	`LordAbyss`	`x = their date they say it will be released`
`06:13.49`	`LordAbyss`	`always assume its a couple days after`
`06:13.53`	`LordAbyss`	`in terms of game releases`
`06:13.56`	`LordAbyss`	`its x^2`
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`06:15.59`	`pirate`	`i take it no ones got a 'winners email'?`
`06:17.43`	`mike9055`	`i've got the golden tiiiicket`
`06:21.42`	`LordAbyss`	`~reese`
`06:21.47`	`LordAbyss`	`~reese's`
`06:25.51`	`Tordy`	`wassup`
`06:25.53`	`Tordy`	`how douy doni`
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`06:44.31`	`FahqueL`	`when my hero levels up, the gained skill point is not showing up on the button`
`06:44.44`	`FahqueL`	`i duplicated this unit from another hero where it worked fine`
`06:44.51`	`FahqueL`	`any ideas whats causing this?`
`06:45.11`	`Dryeyece`	`they must have made some changes in that last patch to camera movement. Because setting up allowing free camera rotation is actually quite simple`
`06:45.52`	`Dryeyece`	`I dunno bro`
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`06:55.04`	`AraxniD`	`hello everyone`
`06:56.41`	`AraxniD`	`http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/move-unit-instantly/ how this working?`
`06:57.02`	`AraxniD`	`i wanna to move my unit from one part of map to other instanly, istead of this i get a laggy animation`
`06:57.04`	`AraxniD`	`like unit get stuck`
`06:58.00`	`AraxniD`	`so anyone/`
`06:59.38`	`AraxniD`	`=(`
`07:01.56`	`Saeris`	`um`
`07:02.17`	`AraxniD`	`maybe its bad working with regions?`
`07:02.21`	`Saeris`	`there's an option i think on that trigger for it`
`07:02.24`	`Saeris`	`lemme check`
`07:02.36`	`Saeris`	`yea`
`07:02.37`	`Saeris`	`no blend`
`07:02.40`	`AraxniD`	`i set it`
`07:02.45`	`AraxniD`	`it just not moving to other point`
`07:03.03`	`AraxniD`	`its stuck on place and startnig move back, move up, move back, move up`
`07:03.05`	`AraxniD`	`or smh like this`
`07:03.14`	`Saeris`	`weird`
`07:03.16`	`Saeris`	`dunno then`
`07:03.23`	`Saeris`	`i've had it work before`
`07:03.37`	`AraxniD`	`you put it work with regions?`
`07:03.43`	`AraxniD`	`or after some other events?`
`07:03.59`	`Saeris`	`well`
`07:04.10`	`Saeris`	`it's hard to tell what you want to do without context`
`07:04.16`	`Saeris`	`but say`
`07:04.30`	`Saeris`	`if you want a unit to teleport when it enters a region`
`07:04.35`	`AraxniD`	`yep`
`07:05.26`	`Saeris`	`it should work if you just say, event unit enters region. move unit (triggering unit) instantly to <point> (can be center of region), no blend`
`07:05.29`	`Saeris`	`should work`
`07:05.47`	`AraxniD`	`but it didnt =)`
`07:05.51`	`Saeris`	`dunno then`
`07:05.56`	`Saeris`	`brb`
`07:11.03`	`Thels`	`anyone know which function to use when selecting specific units at a region?`
`07:11.14`	`Thels`	`regardless of the player that owns them`
`07:13.03`	`Saeris`	`units in unit group, unit (or units) from a variable, using unit matching conditions, etc`
`07:13.18`	`Thels`	`they're not in a group yet`
`07:13.25`	`Thels`	`or in a variable`
`07:13.40`	`Thels`	`I just want say all Hatcheries within a specific region`
`07:13.41`	`Dryeyece`	`wewt I made my enemy units able to wander around 8-)`
`07:13.51`	`Saeris`	`unit matching condition then`
`07:14.04`	`Saeris`	`all hatchery units in region matching conditions (alive)`
`07:14.15`	`Saeris`	`or w/e the options are`
`07:14.21`	`Saeris`	`can't remember them all off the top of my head`
`07:15.53`	`Thels`	`ohh`
`07:15.54`	`Thels`	`wait`
`07:15.59`	`Thels`	`you always need to refer to group`
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`07:18.24`	`demalii`	`anyone got time for some semi-basic ability questions?`
`07:24.57`	`Thels`	`crap`
`07:25.06`	`Thels`	`is there any way to determine a computer player's start location?`
`07:26.56`	`Thels`	`oh wait, there is`
`07:33.27`	`mrop`	`has anyone noticed that the word boobies kind of looks and sounds like boobs`
`07:33.35`	`mrop`	`they are all roundy`
`07:33.38`	`mrop`	`with bs`
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`07:40.45`	`allenmelon`	`damm, zhrpg takes forever to load`
`07:41.15`	`LordAbyss`	`why is sixen sleeping?`
`07:41.58`	`madsquare`	`is there some way to import triggers to an existing map?`
`07:42.05`	`LordAbyss`	`copy and paste`
`07:42.41`	`madsquare`	`mhm`
`07:43.01`	`LordAbyss`	`or you could save it as a mod and go through some funky files`
`07:50.18`	`Dryeyece`	`Can you adjust the radius or area for units Combat Acquire Level?`
`07:50.27`	`Dryeyece`	`with it still on offensive`
`07:58.16`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Is there any method of searching a cone area relative to the facing direction of a unit?`
`07:58.29`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`say for example, I want to search the area behind the direction he is facing`
`07:58.48`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`alternatively is there any method to search an area behind the relative facing direction of a unit?`
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`08:16.41`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`No one? This is becoming a real headache. ;/`
`08:21.03`	`Thels`	`can't you check the facing of the unit`
`08:21.15`	`Thels`	`and place a location based on it's facing and location?`
`08:21.20`	`Thels`	`err, place a region`
`08:21.30`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I should add`
`08:21.34`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Through the data editor`
`08:21.35`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`:P`
`08:25.54`	`demalii`	`Can anyone help with some semi-basic ability questions?`
`08:26.01`	`demalii`	`Just a couple to try to get this ability working yea`
`08:37.21`	`DJSplendid`	`still hard at work there, thels ?`
`08:37.34`	`Thels`	`sorta`
`08:37.49`	`Thels`	`trying to figure out how to run the AI when they're in random slots`
`08:38.06`	`Thels`	`I thought I had a method`
`08:38.10`	`Thels`	`but 1 AI is just mining`
`08:38.18`	`Thels`	`and the other 3 AIs don't even do that :(`
`08:38.23`	`DJSplendid`	`Ka[L]ekin, you could create a region on the fly using a point which was an offset from the uni you;re making 'vision' for`
`08:38.29`	`DJSplendid`	`use a circular region`
`08:38.40`	`DJSplendid`	`maybe? kinda approzimate to the shape ?`
`08:38.55`	`DJSplendid`	`else, you'll have to make a triangle using rectangles`
`08:39.11`	`Thels`	`oh wait, I got them all mining`
`08:39.47`	`Thels`	`2 are building stuff :o`
`08:40.12`	`Thels`	`argh!`
`08:40.17`	`Thels`	`2 are building, 2 are not :\|`
`08:41.39`	`DJSplendid`	`ask away demalii`
`08:41.47`	`DJSplendid`	`though i'm a noob`
`08:46.35`	`demalii`	`well i'm basically modifying the defense matrix ability`
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`08:46.54`	`demalii`	`but i wanted to make it add like +10 health regen, but what if there's a delay from combat?`
`08:47.28`	`demalii`	`and how do i make a 2 second cast time`
`08:47.48`	`DJSplendid`	`make the ability set the healt regen delay property to zero in addition to your other effects?`
`08:48.30`	`demalii`	`i looked for it i dunno where to modify that`
`08:48.38`	`demalii`	`i checked all over behavior-modifications`
`08:49.00`	`DJSplendid`	`sry, i dont even know if you can do it that way`
`08:49.06`	`DJSplendid`	`was just 'storming`
`08:49.10`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`When using the Target field in the data editor, what does Outer Unit refer to?`
`08:49.33`	`DJSplendid`	`i find the data editor to be a big tangle of FUCK YOU, DJSplendid`
`08:49.40`	`DJSplendid`	`so i use triggers for everything`
`08:49.53`	`DJSplendid`	`and am all like, FUCK YOU, Data Module`
`08:50.19`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Your loss :P`
`08:50.42`	`demalii`	`lolol`
`08:50.46`	`demalii`	`still funny`
`08:50.54`	`demalii`	`the data editor really is epic`
`08:50.59`	`demalii`	`it's a bit to learn though`
`08:51.17`	`demalii`	`i admit this is the most epic editor i've used to date`
`08:51.29`	`demalii`	`from over 10 years of using editors and map making hah`
`08:52.09`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I just wish it had some documentation`
`08:52.16`	`demalii`	`yea`
`08:52.17`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`or that they tooltipped more of the fields`
`08:52.22`	`demalii`	`i really do wish ,..`
`08:52.23`	`demalii`	`exactly`
`08:52.53`	`demalii`	`some of the tips are horrible also`
`08:53.08`	`demalii`	`but hey, at least they added some heh`
`08:53.20`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`;_;`
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`09:06.20`	`thenk`	`yeah, it's intense eh`
`09:06.33`	`thenk`	`so much control over everything`
`09:06.56`	`thenk`	`data editor <3`
`09:07.12`	`thenk`	`the only problem i have with data editor, is that it doesn't logically match up for me.`
`09:07.26`	`thenk`	`but i guess i don't really know how the engine works, so, not much to base the logico n.`
`09:07.39`	`thenk`	`still, i manage to do some stuff`
`09:07.47`	`thenk`	`minimal triggers for me`
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`09:10.50`	`harl`	`wuff wuff`
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`09:13.21`	`Tordy`	`Soulcarverr got banned o_o`
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`09:24.36`	`thenk`	`Ka[L]ekin, is there no way to get the current facing?`
`09:25.00`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I am making a BIT of progress`
`09:25.03`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`but still hitting a bit of a wall`
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`09:25.44`	`Hati`	`hello`
`09:25.59`	`Otixa`	`Hai2u2`
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`09:30.30`	`Tordy`	`hi otixa!`
`09:30.47`	`Tordy`	`otixa what are we talkin about here:?`
`09:30.48`	`Tordy`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI`
`09:32.50`	`Otixa`	`About this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/SC2/ModCraft/tiles.jpg`
`09:33.09`	`Tordy`	`otixa i havent seen you in a week! :(`
`09:33.11`	`Tordy`	`i missed you`
`09:33.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that's a lie`
`09:33.34`	`Tordy`	`by havent seen i mean havent seen him say something in a week`
`09:33.35`	`Otixa`	`Age of Conan`
`09:33.36`	`Tordy`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI`
`09:33.37`	`Otixa`	`HOOAHH`
`09:34.46`	`Tordy`	`we talkin bout pratice man`
`09:35.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~seen Otixa`
`09:35.02`	`purl`	`otixa is currently on #sc2mapster (48m 8s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 1m 25s, last said: 'HOOAHH'.`
`09:35.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`purl says otherwise`
`09:35.15`	`Tordy`	`otixa can i use those tiles`
`09:35.26`	`Otixa`	`You can once we release them ;p`
`09:35.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`YOu can never use the tiles`
`09:35.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`they are MINE`
`09:35.37`	`Tordy`	`hi ProzaicMuze`
`09:35.42`	`Otixa`	`Nowai`
`09:35.51`	`Tordy`	`we's talkin about practice mang`
`09:36.16`	`Tordy`	`i shouldve been done w/ the update several weeks ago`
`09:36.20`	`Tordy`	`but i refused to work on it`
`09:36.21`	`Tordy`	`xd`
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`09:38.14`	`Dryeyece`	`anyone know how to put an image in the green box that shows up next to the progress bar of a cast spell down in the center of the GUI where the wireframe usually is? Im trying to find a field related to it and just cant seem to 8-(`
`09:40.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Ability - Progress`
`09:40.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`look at my multi-spell tutorial`
`09:40.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I cover that.`
`09:41.02`	`Dryeyece`	`okie dokie`
`09:41.14`	`Dryeyece`	`what level proficiency is that tut?`
`09:41.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`advanced`
`09:41.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`but the portion you want is beg/int`
`09:43.59`	`Dryeyece`	`can yo tellme this, does the computer count level 0 as the first level and therefore if you make a requirement to compare veterency levels to require say level 4 then your requirement has to compare to veternecy level 5 doesnt it`
`09:52.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`yes`
`09:53.42`	`Dryeyece`	`ok that answers so many questions`
`09:53.45`	`Dryeyece`	`and its dumb lol`
`09:53.55`	`Dryeyece`	`either that or`
`09:54.14`	`Dryeyece`	`that little progress bar does not reflect your actual level it reflects the level attained when its filled`
`09:56.48`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`hey`
`09:56.48`	`Bibendus`	`is no longer away : Gone for 12 hours 10 minutes 26 seconds`
`09:56.52`	`Bibendus`	`still no winners for the contest?`
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`10:01.33`	`Ousnius`	`hi`
`10:01.46`	`Ousnius`	`short question`
`10:01.52`	`Ousnius`	`wth are modal and non modal dialogs? xD`
`10:04.17`	`Dryeyece`	`MMk Im making a requirement it says ............"CountBehavior(HeroLevels,CompleteOnlyAtUnit) >=" how do I put the number in there?`
`10:08.34`	`halohalo`	`still no winners ;(`
`10:09.26`	`halohalo`	`at least none are publicly known yet`
`10:11.55`	`Ousnius`	`100.000$, right? XD`
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`10:17.58`	`Bibendus`	`5000$`
`10:18.12`	`Bibendus`	`now i think we should wait for monday`
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`10:20.18`	`ZarafFaraz`	`yeah it's pretty stupid`
`10:23.36`	`Vindicator`	`hey`
`10:24.00`	`Vindicator`	`just a random thought - but i'm thinking that the winners of the contest were likely told to keep quiet until blizzcon`
`10:24.13`	`Vindicator`	`it would be cool if they hadn't been notified yet`
`10:24.17`	`Vindicator`	`but i'm doubtful`
`10:24.41`	`Vindicator`	`blizzard usually does what they say they're gonna do - and they said winners would be notified on oct. 8th`
`10:24.46`	`Vindicator`	`no one else =/`
`10:25.34`	`Vindicator`	`and btw Ousnius - i'm not positive - but i think the difference between modal and non-modal dialogs is that one of they makes everything in the background unresponsive`
`10:25.59`	`Bibendus`	`oh then u think that just the winners were notified?`
`10:26.06`	`Bibendus`	`its not specified`
`10:26.12`	`Vindicator`	`kinda like when windows asks "Are you sure you want to run this program." and the background becomes a darker tint and you can't click on any window/dialog except that one`
`10:26.13`	`Bibendus`	`if the news will be public or not`
`10:26.16`	`Vindicator`	`yes Bibendus - that's what i'm thinkin`
`10:26.22`	`Bibendus`	`k`
`10:26.29`	`Bibendus`	`its ambiguous`
`10:26.46`	`Ousnius`	`ah k thx Vindicator`
`10:28.01`	`Vindicator`	`everyone curious about who might have won the contest has checked their own email for a Blizzard email right?`
`10:28.12`	`Vindicator`	`cuz i'm guessing that's how they would notify the winners`
`10:28.50`	`Ousnius`	`no they will call them and shout "WTF YOU WOOON" in the telephone`
`10:29.39`	`Vindicator`	`lolz`
`10:31.30`	`Vindicator`	`i just searched "contest" in IRC here and Rodrigo earlier said "I know who won"`
`10:31.33`	`Vindicator`	`"Burning Tide"`
`10:31.34`	`Vindicator`	`lolz`
`10:31.56`	`Vindicator`	`just checking to make sure no one else mentioned something when i wasn't looking`
`10:32.42`	`mrop`	`how do you add a weapon to a building`
`10:32.52`	`mrop`	`i made the weapon`
`10:32.58`	`mrop`	`but i dont know how to attach it`
`10:33.01`	`mrop`	`><`
`10:34.06`	`Bibendus`	`mail`
`10:34.22`	`Bibendus`	`i received a mail when i won the wc3 contest`
`10:34.30`	`Bibendus`	`asking for the choosen prizes`
`10:35.01`	`mrop`	`grazt`
`10:35.11`	`Bibendus`	`wow`
`10:35.13`	`Bibendus`	`i still have the mail`
`10:35.14`	`Bibendus`	`lolz`
`10:35.17`	`Bibendus`	`Congratulations! Your map was selected as First place in the Sport Map contest on Battle.net. As First place winner, you will be able to choose one of the prize packages from:`
`10:35.17`	`Bibendus`	`http://www.battle.net/mod/contest_sportsmap.shtml#prizes`
`10:35.17`	`Bibendus`	`Once you have chosen, please reply to this with your selection and your Full Name, Address, Phone.`
`10:35.17`	`Bibendus`	`Congratulations and we hope you had as much fun making the map as we did playing it!`
`10:35.17`	`Bibendus`	`- Mod Support Team`
`10:35.30`	`mrop`	`can you help me with tah question bib`
`10:35.37`	`Bibendus`	`what quest`
`10:35.39`	`mrop`	`how do you add a weapon to a building`
`10:35.44`	`mrop`	`i made the weapon`
`10:35.47`	`mrop`	`but i dont know how to attach it`
`10:35.48`	`Bibendus`	`there is the weapon field`
`10:35.48`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`10:35.55`	`mrop`	`oO`
`10:36.05`	`Bibendus`	`combat - weapons++`
`10:36.15`	`mrop`	`uh`
`10:36.15`	`Bibendus`	`use the search function :d`
`10:36.18`	`mrop`	`still lose`
`10:36.20`	`mrop`	`(_ _)`
`10:36.23`	`mrop`	`lost`
`10:36.25`	`Bibendus`	`did u findit?`
`10:36.30`	`Bibendus`	`unit edit`
`10:37.11`	`mrop`	`i have my tower (_ _)`
`10:37.17`	`mrop`	`and my weapon`
`10:37.21`	`mrop`	`@$#4`
`10:39.07`	`Vindicator`	`it's minorly relieving to know that no one knows who won yet`
`10:39.19`	`mrop`	`zara`
`10:39.22`	`mrop`	`won`
`10:39.39`	`Bibendus`	`zara who?`
`10:39.54`	`mrop`	`bib i dont see what you are talking about`
`10:39.55`	`Vindicator`	`but at the same time - i'm only relieved cuz i think theres still a chance to win - though if I received an email saying to keep my mouth shut - i know i would keep it shut - so =P oh wellz`
`10:39.57`	`mrop`	`sigh`
`10:41.24`	`Bibendus`	`are u inside the data editor????`
`10:41.32`	`mrop`	`lol yes (_ _)`
`10:41.40`	`Bibendus`	`are u in the unit editing?`
`10:41.45`	`mrop`	`yes`
`10:41.53`	`Vindicator`	`do u have the advanced button clicked`
`10:41.54`	`Bibendus`	`select your unit`
`10:42.00`	`Vindicator`	`all fields might not be showing`
`10:42.00`	`Bibendus`	`and search the field combat-weapons++`
`10:42.07`	`Bibendus`	`he maybe has the button unchecked`
`10:42.16`	`Bibendus`	`but he doesn't give me his feedback on what's happening`
`10:42.22`	`Bibendus`	`so its hard to understand the problem`
`10:42.26`	`Vindicator`	`sounds like blizzard`
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`10:42.40`	`Bibendus`	`blizzard what`
`10:42.44`	`mrop`	`wow`
`10:42.46`	`Vindicator`	`lack of feedback =D`
`10:42.47`	`mrop`	`DUH`
`10:42.49`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`10:42.52`	`mrop`	`thanks man`
`10:43.03`	`Bibendus`	`i still dont get why u didnt find it the first time i said u`
`10:43.05`	`Bibendus`	`where to find it :D`
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`10:46.31`	`mrop`	`i am a nuub`
`10:46.34`	`mrop`	`(_ _)`
`10:54.29`	`mrop`	`night everyone`
`10:54.31`	`mrop`	`er morning`
`10:54.35`	`mrop`	`er whatever`
`10:54.39`	`mrop`	`time it is`
`10:54.40`	`mrop`	`XD`
`11:01.36`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Anyone have any idea what the effect field is for in when working with Target parameters?`
`11:13.05`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes`
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`11:34.04`	`Creation`	`Good morning.`
`11:43.21`	`rrowland`	`ugh`
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`11:51.18`	`rrowland`	`UGH`
`11:51.20`	`rrowland`	`AGH`
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`11:54.07`	`demalii`	`Sixen is good at being AFK`
`11:54.22`	`demalii`	`night`
`11:54.34`	`Arthas-10`	`FFS`
`11:54.43`	`Arthas-10`	`Why do I need to register everywhere in order to order stuff`
`11:54.47`	`Arthas-10`	`FUCKING RETARDED`
`12:03.26`	`DJSplendid`	`Thels - you there dude ?`
`12:04.06`	`DJSplendid`	`Arthas-10, so your details can be harvested, uploaded to a massive cross-referencing system. and then your identity can be usurped or stolen`
`12:04.26`	`DJSplendid`	`9/10 ppl have the same password for every fucking forum, for eg.`
`12:04.43`	`DJSplendid`	`and you have no idea how the passowrd is being stored`
`12:05.42`	`Deaeod`	`does anyone here have a galaxy script that demonstrates every possible feature of galaxy?`
`12:09.12`	`DJSplendid`	`anyone on EU around for a 2 minute test?`
`12:09.23`	`DJSplendid`	`needs a player 2 very quickly pleseaseyyy :))`
`12:13.04`	`Arthas-10`	`DJSplendid ya that normally works yeah`
`12:13.11`	`Arthas-10`	`unfortuntely i dont use the same pass :p`
`12:14.16`	`Creation`	`almost done...`
`12:14.21`	`Creation`	`15 more skills to go...`
`12:14.23`	`Creation`	`pant`
`12:16.54`	`halohalo`	`Did you win rrowland`
`12:17.25`	`rrowland`	`didnt you ask me this question 6 hours ago`
`12:17.35`	`halohalo`	`but you were "ARGH"ing`
`12:17.53`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Means he did not win`
`12:17.58`	`halohalo`	`so I assumed that you receieved an email :P`
`12:18.16`	`rrowland`	`why in the fucking world`
`12:18.22`	`rrowland`	`would i ARGH over getting an email`
`12:18.53`	`halohalo`	`having a nerdgasm`
`12:19.22`	`rrowland`	`I'm just wishing either someone would come forward and say they got the email, or blizz would say "yep weve sent them out"`
`12:19.33`	`halohalo`	`between you, riley and sixen`
`12:19.43`	`rrowland`	`Because I'm pretty sure I should be winning and I'm hoping they're being late as always`
`12:19.44`	`halohalo`	`one, if not all, must have won`
`12:20.12`	`rrowland`	`Considering sixen doesnt even make custom maps`
`12:20.12`	`halohalo`	`release your map :D`
`12:20.17`	`rrowland`	`I'd say it's a safe bet he didnt`
`12:20.25`	`halohalo`	`i am pretty sure he made one`
`12:20.32`	`halohalo`	`with some guy`
`12:20.41`	`Xaragoth`	`DJSplendid: What map?`
`12:20.44`	`rrowland`	`No that was a gay sex tape`
`12:21.08`	`halohalo`	`cos i saw the guy asking for help after sixen ditched him :P`
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`12:21.40`	`rrowland`	`ah`
`12:21.45`	`rrowland`	`well sixen doesnt know dick about mapping`
`12:21.51`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`i need a squared wall model`
`12:21.51`	`Bibendus`	`is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 38 minutes 45 seconds`
`12:21.53`	`halohalo`	`anyway, release your map!`
`12:21.54`	`Bibendus`	`where can i find it? :D`
`12:22.01`	`Xaragoth`	`hrm`
`12:22.05`	`Xaragoth`	`did you try the wall from otixa?`
`12:22.10`	`Xaragoth`	`in the modcraft threat D:`
`12:22.17`	`Bibendus`	`ye`
`12:22.18`	`Bibendus`	`but i dont fidn it`
`12:22.22`	`Bibendus`	`oh`
`12:22.23`	`Bibendus`	`no wai`
`12:22.26`	`Xaragoth`	`blind bibi!`
`12:22.26`	`Bibendus`	`not that kind of wall`
`12:22.28`	`Bibendus`	`i mean a squared wall`
`12:22.32`	`Bibendus`	`for dungeon keeper`
`12:22.32`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`12:22.38`	`Xaragoth`	`hrm`
`12:22.44`	`Xaragoth`	`there is no square wall!`
`12:22.51`	`Bibendus`	`and the cake is a lie`
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`12:23.12`	`DJSplendid`	`hey Xaragoth, map is GoCraft`
`12:23.16`	`Bibendus`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVApkoxdqqo`
`12:23.17`	`Bibendus`	`like this`
`12:23.19`	`Xaragoth`	`what does it do?`
`12:23.24`	`DJSplendid`	`ever played GO ?`
`12:23.26`	`rrowland`	`is one of you making the dungeon keeper map?`
`12:23.26`	`halohalo`	`nvm ;( I mixed up sixen with some other guy`
`12:23.42`	`DJSplendid`	`(baord game, chess grade complexity`
`12:23.42`	`Bibendus`	`Skizot`
`12:23.43`	`Xaragoth`	`those are the walls that are in the editor anyways Oo`
`12:23.51`	`Bibendus`	`does anyone know who he is`
`12:23.56`	`Xaragoth`	`rubble wall`
`12:24.09`	`DJSplendid`	`gocraft is real-time Go`
`12:24.41`	`thenk`	`lol on SEA`
`12:24.44`	`thenk`	`every time i join a game`
`12:24.50`	`thenk`	`some guy goes 'did u make thenk's team survival?'`
`12:25.07`	`halohalo`	`I meant to say s3rius, riley and you. One of you have to win.`
`12:25.11`	`thenk`	`it's like.. it's named thenk's team survival isnt it? :P`
`12:25.27`	`DJSplendid`	`but thenk, did you make it?`
`12:25.30`	`DJSplendid`	`:>`
`12:25.38`	`thenk`	`well it says thenk underneath ;)`
`12:25.49`	`DJSplendid`	`is that logical proof ?`
`12:26.01`	`thenk`	`yeah it all matches up.`
`12:26.12`	`thenk`	`thenk's survival, posted by thenk, i'm thenk.. what's the question again?`
`12:26.20`	`DJSplendid`	`Xaragoth - you got a mint o spare to have a look ?`
`12:26.28`	`Xaragoth`	`hrm`
`12:26.29`	`thenk`	`i'ev got an issue with libCHS`
`12:26.29`	`Xaragoth`	`yeah`
`12:26.30`	`DJSplendid`	`min to spare*`
`12:26.34`	`rrowland`	`are you thenk? THE thenk? from thenk's survival? posted by thenk?`
`12:26.36`	`thenk`	`people are picking multiple heros`
`12:26.38`	`Xaragoth`	`but don't expect me to be over-the-edge-hyped`
`12:26.48`	`DJSplendid`	`Xaragoth np , you wont see much gameplay anyway`
`12:26.52`	`thenk`	`it's a remote possibility, rrowland`
`12:26.52`	`DJSplendid`	`i just need to test some logic`
`12:26.53`	`Xaragoth`	`i'm probably the most annoying critic we have :p`
`12:27.03`	`DJSplendid`	`critics make stuff better :)`
`12:27.09`	`DJSplendid`	`(born naysayer myself)`
`12:27.24`	`Xaragoth`	`I find flaws in every map (in mine its even worse, because every time I switch stuff, I see flaws and redo it -_-)`
`12:27.25`	`DJSplendid`	`did you know it was actualyl a very well paid job in fuadal times?`
`12:27.41`	`Arthas-10`	`i flew in space in djs map`
`12:27.51`	`DJSplendid`	`Arthas-10 - that you, hpx ?`
`12:27.55`	`Arthas-10`	`ye`
`12:27.58`	`DJSplendid`	`hiya :)`
`12:28.05`	`Arthas-10`	`\o`
`12:28.08`	`DJSplendid`	`i've done more of the capture logic`
`12:28.23`	`DJSplendid`	`right, Xaragoth, whats yer friend ID/digits thingy`
`12:28.24`	`Arthas-10`	`oh`
`12:28.30`	`Xaragoth`	`Xaragoth.482`
`12:28.38`	`Arthas-10`	`will test later sometime`
`12:28.45`	`Arthas-10`	`ima eat ma food and go to work :p`
`12:28.47`	`Xaragoth`	`Ornloff`
`12:28.51`	`Xaragoth`	`fixed that sound yet?`
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`12:35.54`	`DJSplendid`	`thnx for that, Xaragoth :)`
`12:36.09`	`Xaragoth`	`np`
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`12:36.18`	`Jcup`	`Gmorning :D`
`12:36.22`	`Xaragoth`	`now to scourge the forums and see if anything can wake my interest`
`12:36.24`	`Xaragoth`	`morning`
`12:36.59`	`HeyRevolver`	`sup`
`12:42.17`	`DJSplendid`	`i've got one for you:`
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`12:43.23`	`DJSplendid`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/13130-lobby-system-auto-crams-party-into-same-team/#p1`
`12:47.37`	`rrowland`	`scour*`
`12:47.58`	`rrowland`	`you can just call me the 6am nazi`
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`12:52.08`	`ZarafFaraz`	`well seeing as how rroland is still alive, I take it he won the Blizzard contest?`
`12:53.51`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes`
`12:54.03`	`rrowland`	`I am not yet convinced the emails have been sent out`
`12:54.20`	`rrowland`	`Believe my my noose is swinging back and forth in thebackground right now`
`12:54.24`	`rrowland`	`me my*`
`12:54.33`	`rrowland`	`Waiting for the certainty`
`12:54.54`	`ZarafFaraz`	`well I think your life is worth more than 5000 and a trip to Blizzcon`
`12:55.20`	`rrowland`	`I want to work with blizzard, I want to work on quality games that I know I'm qualified to work on`
`12:55.50`	`ZarafFaraz`	`so? Blizzard isn't the only one`
`12:55.51`	`rrowland`	`At the end of the year I'll be forced to jump into working for companies I don't really give a shit about and begin the process of flushing my life down the drain`
`12:56.08`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Bioware is a quality company`
`12:56.19`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Valve is quality`
`12:56.48`	`ZarafFaraz`	`the guys that made Bioshock and the guys that made Fallout 3`
`12:56.51`	`ZarafFaraz`	`etc`
`12:56.56`	`rrowland`	`eh I'm a total blizz fanboy`
`12:57.05`	`ZarafFaraz`	`apparently`
`12:57.07`	`rrowland`	`If I don't work for them I want to start my own company`
`12:57.16`	`ZarafFaraz`	`but you know`
`12:57.23`	`ZarafFaraz`	`that fanboyism could work against you`
`12:57.43`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I know that if I were Blizzard, I would want to hire a critical thinking person rather than some mindless fanboy drone`
`12:58.15`	`ZarafFaraz`	`plus, I wouldn't want to lose fans...and once you start working for a company, that company doesn't seem all that special anymore`
`12:58.27`	`rrowland`	`shrug`
`12:58.29`	`ZarafFaraz`	`you start seeing the behind the scenes dirt that is hidden away from the public`
`12:58.38`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I'm sure a lot of people that work for Blizz now days were fans`
`12:58.41`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`or, are fans`
`12:58.53`	`ZarafFaraz`	`is one thing to be a fan, it's another to be a fanboy`
`12:59.16`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I'm a fan, but I'm not about to go and kill myself for Blizzard`
`12:59.21`	`ZarafFaraz`	`or because of them`
`12:59.29`	`rrowland`	`Obviously I'm not going to kill myself`
`12:59.34`	`rrowland`	`Unless I do`
`12:59.37`	`rrowland`	`But I won't`
`12:59.38`	`rrowland`	`Probably`
`12:59.42`	`ZarafFaraz`	`[06:54] <rrowland> Believe my my noose is swinging back and forth in thebackground right now`
`12:59.53`	`rrowland`	`Who hangs themselves these days`
`12:59.54`	`rrowland`	`Not me`
`13:00.00`	`rrowland`	`That would be incredibly painful`
`13:00.03`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I've been a suicide distress counselor before....so I don't take these sort of things as jokes ;)`
`13:00.42`	`rrowland`	`Yeah well I'm sure everyone thinks of suicide when they get backed into a corner in a certain aspect of their life they don't want to fight through`
`13:00.49`	`rrowland`	`Difference is doing it`
`13:00.57`	`ZarafFaraz`	`No, not everyone thinks of suicide`
`13:01.15`	`DJSplendid`	`Some ppl thinking of killing the source of suffering >:)`
`13:01.26`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Some people are patient`
`13:01.37`	`rrowland`	`I am definitely not patient`
`13:02.01`	`rrowland`	`I just like life too much to ever end it -- Even if I were poor and living in a gutter`
`13:02.27`	`ZarafFaraz`	`then death will take you unaware`
`13:02.49`	`rrowland`	`what`
`13:03.03`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`sigh`
`13:03.09`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Thought I was making progress. :/`
`13:03.16`	`DJSplendid`	`best way, ZarafFaraz, surely!`
`13:03.16`	`ZarafFaraz`	`lol`
`13:03.29`	`rrowland`	`By the way I've had a couple drinks so any blizzard recruiters reading this please disregard`
`13:03.35`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`How do I make an effect use the fallback facing offset?`
`13:03.54`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I want to offset something by the facing direction of my unit`
`13:03.56`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I have the attitude that I value the life I have. However, I'm also aware that I could die at ANY moment. So I don't despair about life, nor death. I value each individually.`
`13:04.01`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`But I just can't seem to get it to fucking work :/`
`13:04.06`	`DJSplendid`	`death has value ?`
`13:04.13`	`DJSplendid`	`i thought it was null`
`13:04.20`	`rrowland`	`Yeah how can you value death`
`13:04.22`	`ZarafFaraz`	`For those who believe in an afterlife, it does.`
`13:04.32`	`rrowland`	`I usually don't talk to those people`
`13:04.36`	`DJSplendid`	`me either`
`13:04.38`	`DJSplendid`	`MENTAL`
`13:04.42`	`DJSplendid`	`and fuckign up our existence`
`13:04.46`	`DJSplendid`	`and threatening it`
`13:05.13`	`ZarafFaraz`	`who said you should feel threatened? :)`
`13:05.20`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Absolutely. Need more people like Richard Dawkins.`
`13:05.21`	`Creation`	`WTF`
`13:05.22`	`ZarafFaraz`	`ignore what you don't like`
`13:05.24`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`rolleye`
`13:05.25`	`DJSplendid`	`religous zeal + nuclear warhead`
`13:05.33`	`rrowland`	`Religions waging/threatening nuclear war on eachother`
`13:05.38`	`rrowland`	`Threatens me a little`
`13:05.39`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Aaaanway`
`13:05.51`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Someone fix my problems :D`
`13:05.53`	`Creation`	`why cant i get a preserver to do void seeker skills!?!?!?`
`13:06.01`	`ZarafFaraz`	`political ideologies have killed more people than religion ever has ;)`
`13:06.03`	`Creation`	`bangs head against desk`
`13:06.12`	`DJSplendid`	`Ka[L]ekin why have you got a L plate in your nick ?`
`13:06.27`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`This is my laptop irc`
`13:06.31`	`rrowland`	`That just makes religion the second biggest killer`
`13:06.40`	`DJSplendid`	`thats cos policts is never seperate from religion, ZarafFaraz`
`13:06.50`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Okey enough stupid religion talk!`
`13:06.55`	`DJSplendid`	`becasue most ppl are MENTAL and subscribe to one`
`13:07.07`	`Creation`	`religion doesnt kill people, its the people who take religion and twist it around for their own personal gain that kills people`
`13:07.15`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Someone tell me how to make an effect act upon a point infront/to the side of the unit`
`13:07.16`	`Creation`	`Jesus said those who live by the sword, die by the sword`
`13:07.24`	`Creation`	`he wanted nothing to do with bloodshed`
`13:07.35`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`AAaaaaaaaaarg`
`13:07.35`	`rrowland`	`Yeah well a talking, flaming bush told me to eat an apple from a tree`
`13:07.37`	`rrowland`	`So I think I win`
`13:07.47`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`no one wins`
`13:07.49`	`DJSplendid`	`you met the guy? or you read about him from a dude who read about him from a dude who heard about it , translated 100 times transition ?`
`13:07.49`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`all lose`
`13:07.56`	`DJSplendid`	`across 5 languages`
`13:08.02`	`DJSplendid`	`it's total, utter cock.`
`13:08.08`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Only language I care about right now is the data editor`
`13:08.12`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`need someone who speaks it`
`13:08.21`	`Creation`	`DJ, the bible is still in its original translation, you can view the ancient texts in Israel`
`13:08.23`	`DJSplendid`	`i wanan know about your L plate, Kaelten`
`13:08.31`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I already answered your question.`
`13:08.38`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`It means I am currently working from my laptop.`
`13:08.51`	`DJSplendid`	`that's ostensbily a GOOD reason`
`13:08.52`	`DJSplendid`	`but`
`13:09.03`	`DJSplendid`	`i think it's for another reason`
`13:09.21`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Well then you would be incorrect in your assumption.`
`13:09.23`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Now.`
`13:09.25`	`DJSplendid`	`are you performing laproscopy on someone right now ?`
`13:09.31`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Offset depending on the facing direction of a unit?`
`13:09.32`	`DJSplendid`	`Lible`
`13:09.32`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`How.`
`13:09.42`	`DJSplendid`	`Litigation`
`13:09.50`	`rrowland`	`I could tell you how to do it in triggers`
`13:09.56`	`rrowland`	`Not sure it's even possible in data`
`13:10.06`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Not what I want to hear. ;_;`
`13:10.50`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Each Persistent effect has something called a offset facing fallback`
`13:11.00`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`which I can set to my Source Unit`
`13:11.01`	`rrowland`	`Sorry, more of a scientist than a preacher`
`13:11.05`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`but how do I make it use that fallback?`
`13:11.08`	`rrowland`	`ie truth > what you want to hear`
`13:11.12`	`rrowland`	`burnnnn`
`13:11.28`	`rrowland`	`I have no idea I've never used that field before`
`13:16.01`	`rrowland`	`So I downloaded jME and read a bunch of tutorials`
`13:16.19`	`rrowland`	`Now I just can't be bothered to do anything with it`
`13:19.16`	`DJSplendid`	`for mobile phone dev?`
`13:19.28`	`DJSplendid`	`grab the driod stuff`
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`13:19.33`	`DJSplendid`	`its the future maaaaaaaaann`
`13:19.45`	`FahqueL`	`ok guys wtf is up with this`
`13:19.52`	`rrowland`	`I already program android`
`13:20.03`	`rrowland`	`In fact, I'm consulting right now`
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`13:20.12`	`rrowland`	`Soon to be a project manager`
`13:20.24`	`DJSplendid`	`oh right, are you any good with 2d animation ?`
`13:20.32`	`rrowland`	`Nope`
`13:20.37`	`DJSplendid`	`is hiring for his games company`
`13:20.40`	`DJSplendid`	`np`
`13:20.46`	`FahqueL`	`behavior, behavior - modification+, combat, Damage Dealt (scaled) set it to 1.1 <<<this should be 10% increase in damage??? why is it +1.1 dmg in game?`
`13:20.47`	`rrowland`	`I'm a logic man`
`13:20.49`	`rrowland`	`All programming`
`13:21.58`	`rrowland`	`You really starting a game company?`
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`13:27.00`	`Pierrot`	`Hi all`
`13:27.07`	`Pierrot`	`Hi Creation !`
`13:27.18`	`Creation`	`hi Pierrot`
`13:27.23`	`Pierrot`	`Did you manage to fix your problem`
`13:27.24`	`Pierrot`	`?`
`13:27.38`	`Creation`	`haha no`
`13:27.44`	`Creation`	`you left me with about 5 more questions`
`13:27.48`	`Creation`	`but`
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`13:28.05`	`Creation`	`I think im going to put learning that on hold for a while`
`13:28.15`	`Pierrot`	`:)`
`13:28.30`	`Creation`	`ive got 85 skills out of 100 made, cant sacrifice another day on trying to figure that out`
`13:28.35`	`Creation`	`almost done..`
`13:28.51`	`Pierrot`	`I am struggling to do something simple on paper.`
`13:29.19`	`Pierrot`	`I want to add an actor over the head of a unit for each empty slot of its inventory`
`13:29.41`	`Pierrot`	`and fill them with an other actor if it carries an item`
`13:30.12`	`Creation`	`interesting`
`13:30.30`	`Pierrot`	`I want the unit to have 10 slots above his head. and if he carries a gun i put a gun image`
`13:30.42`	`Pierrot`	`I have the graphical part done`
`13:30.45`	`Creation`	`wouldnt that be alot of visual clutter?`
`13:30.51`	`Pierrot`	`just need to put things together`
`13:30.59`	`Pierrot`	`in fact it simple`
`13:31.10`	`Pierrot`	`the item carried are factory`
`13:31.13`	`Pierrot`	`bank`
`13:31.15`	`Pierrot`	`and lab`
`13:31.18`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`any news on the winners?`
`13:31.18`	`Bibendus`	`is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 7 minutes 26 seconds`
`13:31.34`	`Pierrot`	`for my empire ma`
`13:31.35`	`Pierrot`	`map`
`13:31.43`	`Pierrot`	`I need a quick planet overview`
`13:31.57`	`Pierrot`	`i was thinking of this UI thing`
`13:32.31`	`Pierrot`	`im using text actor with icon`
`13:32.41`	`Pierrot`	`it s quite good looking`
`13:41.15`	`Pierrot`	`how should i write a trigger that check each slot of an inventory ?`
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`13:45.55`	`Bibendus`	`search in forums :\|`
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`13:47.16`	`Pierrot`	`:)`
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`13:49.45`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`FIIIINALLLY`
`13:49.54`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Tamed the data editor`
`13:52.47`	`DJSplendid`	`go girl!`
`13:53.05`	`DJSplendid`	`i reckon i'm about 30 yrs from claiming that. i HATE the fucker`
`13:53.22`	`Bibendus`	`u cant tame it`
`13:53.26`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Just did`
`13:53.27`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Soz`
`13:53.32`	`Bibendus`	`just this time`
`13:53.36`	`Bibendus`	`he will pwn u soon`
`13:53.41`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Pfft, we are best friends now.`
`13:53.59`	`DJSplendid`	`bib, wouldst thoustest be a EEEE YUUUU region person ?`
`13:54.01`	`rrowland`	`DATA EDITOR IS FRIENDS WITH NO MAN`
`13:54.25`	`DJSplendid`	`does hourly plead for a tester for 2 mins`
`13:54.37`	`DJSplendid`	`in fact i need to script it xD`
`13:54.47`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Really gotta figure out some way to test the game without others :p`
`13:54.54`	`DJSplendid`	`testing atm involves blowing stuff up with a free voidray at spawn`
`13:55.00`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`see people spending half their day in here trying to get things tested`
`13:55.01`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`>_<`
`13:55.03`	`DJSplendid`	`Ka[L]ekin, just cant be done`
`13:55.17`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I haven't run into anything yet I can't test by myself`
`13:55.17`	`DJSplendid`	`unles sit's a single player thing`
`13:55.30`	`DJSplendid`	`you might not have team logic yet then`
`13:55.52`	`Bibendus`	`what dj?`
`13:55.58`	`DJSplendid`	`are you in the EU ?`
`13:56.00`	`Bibendus`	`yes`
`13:56.02`	`DJSplendid`	`cos i was about to harrass you`
`13:56.05`	`DJSplendid`	`wheee!`
`13:56.08`	`Bibendus`	`:O`
`13:56.11`	`DJSplendid`	`pleasey will you test somethign with my for 2 mins ?`
`13:56.22`	`Bibendus`	`whats that`
`13:56.24`	`DJSplendid`	`all historical testers have had fun`
`13:56.30`	`Bibendus`	`i m dungeon keeping`
`13:56.33`	`DJSplendid`	`plsu i give handjobs after. no homo.`
`13:56.33`	`Bibendus`	`:d`
`13:56.33`	`rrowland`	`yea`
`13:56.38`	`rrowland`	`george washington played last night`
`13:56.40`	`rrowland`	`he had fun`
`13:56.44`	`Bibendus`	`how's that supposed to be no homo`
`13:56.45`	`Bibendus`	`:O`
`13:56.55`	`DJSplendid`	`it's just providing a source of friction`
`13:57.07`	`DJSplendid`	`it is not a logical implication of homo`
`13:57.11`	`Bibendus`	`say george he owns me 20 bucks`
`13:57.15`	`rrowland`	`duh its not gay its just physics`
`13:57.17`	`DJSplendid`	`super-pedantically logically speaking`
`13:57.25`	`DJSplendid`	`rrowland gets it`
`13:57.31`	`DJSplendid`	`he's ENLIGHTENED`
`13:57.38`	`Bibendus`	`oOOOOOooooo`
`13:57.51`	`DJSplendid`	`he wouldnt burn a dude at the stake for musing about the fact that maybe teh earth goes round the sun`
`13:58.00`	`DJSplendid`	`a dude who is actually a monk, in YOUR chruch`
`13:58.02`	`DJSplendid`	`for eg.`
`13:58.19`	`rrowland`	`how can the earth go around anything`
`13:58.21`	`rrowland`	`its flat`
`13:58.27`	`DJSplendid`	`HERETIC!`
`13:58.30`	`DJSplendid`	`oh, i mean`
`13:58.37`	`DJSplendid`	`yes, my son. god wills it to be flat`
`13:58.51`	`DJSplendid`	`(wiat, am i the clergy in this double act? or are you )?`
`13:59.03`	`rrowland`	`who is acting?`
`13:59.18`	`DJSplendid`	`not Keeanua Reeves, thats for sure`
`13:59.33`	`DJSplendid`	`EAT HIS HOLY WOOD`
`13:59.54`	`DJSplendid`	`so bibs`
`14:00.00`	`DJSplendid`	`pleasey come spare 2 mins of your time?`
`14:00.11`	`DJSplendid`	`i need you to blow stuff up with a voidray on demand`
`14:00.21`	`DJSplendid`	`pretty 'spolsions`
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`14:03.54`	`DJSplendid`	`thels, beep!`
`14:09.06`	`Pierrot`	`ah ! I find a way to display my empty slots`
`14:09.10`	`Pierrot`	`creation`
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`14:11.56`	`Arthas-10`	`anyone here with good knowledge of current bank limitations?`
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`14:14.44`	`AraxniD`	`why after some changes in my map apear strange error about there is no space to place item\or use skill??`
`14:14.57`	`AraxniD`	`i even dont know why it appear`
`14:15.07`	`AraxniD`	`and i didnt have any backups before this erroe appears`
`14:15.08`	`AraxniD`	`=\\`
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`14:22.59`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`ok`
`14:23.02`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`this is getting ridiculous`
`14:23.08`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`i still cannot get on the site`
`14:23.19`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`did you make it so that nobody with IE could get in, or what?`
`14:27.38`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes`
`14:27.40`	`AraxniD`	`ie is bad`
`14:27.43`	`AraxniD`	`dont use him`
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`14:28.40`	`AraxniD`	`btw, how the "fraction'" works in the sc2 editor/`
`14:28.43`	`AraxniD`	`it mean in %??`
`14:28.45`	`AraxniD`	`or not?`
`14:29.32`	`grim001`	`greetings`
`14:31.21`	`Ornloff`	`hey guys`
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`14:37.07`	`Ornloff`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPoGUH6GkfQ`
`14:37.10`	`Ornloff`	`watch in hd`
`14:37.24`	`Ornloff`	`tell me what you think, first time using dialogs, variables and all.`
`14:37.29`	`Ornloff`	`still big w.i.p.`
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`14:42.48`	Griffith`	`I want a trigger to be run when all units in a region have died`
`14:42.56`	Griffith`	`whats the best way to detect this event?`
`14:43.39`	`grim001`	`whenever a unit enters the region, add it to a unitgroup`
`14:43.59`	`grim001`	`use a timer to check whether all units in the unitgroup are dead`
`14:44.03`	`grim001`	`several times per second`
`14:44.46`	`grim001`	`well, they won't show up as "dead units" really, it seems like stuff in SC2 decays quickly and then gets auto-removed from unitgroups.`
`14:45.15`	`grim001`	`so it'll be either when they're either all dead or there are no units left in the group`
`14:46.21`	`Creation`	`grim001 you know if theres a way to set it so corpses don't decay?`
`14:46.28`	`Creation`	`or at least lengthen the rate`
`14:46.41`	`grim001`	`Stats - Death Time in the data editor`
`14:46.46`	`Creation`	`ty`
`14:47.07`	Griffith`	`grim001, if a unit belongs to a unit group, and it dies, it's not automatically removed from unit groups?`
`14:47.29`	`ZarafFaraz`	`hey grim, did you finish AutoIndex?`
`14:47.30`	`grim001`	`no, not until it finishes decaying. but if it has a Death Time of 0, it would be instant.`
`14:47.59`	`grim001`	`Zaraf, it turns out I have to make a timer attachment system first, so not yet.`
`14:48.30`	`Creation`	`whats AutoIndex?`
`14:48.30`	`ZarafFaraz`	`ahh ok`
`14:48.36`	Griffith`	`ahh`
`14:49.08`	`grim001`	`its a system that assigns a minimal unique ID to each unit on the map using its UnitUserData`
`14:49.59`	`grim001`	`and gives you callback events to detect when units enter or leave the map (get indexed or deindexed). detecting when they enter is now pretty trivial, but detecting when they decay isn't`
`14:50.37`	`Creation`	`ah cool`
`14:50.52`	`grim001`	`along with a few other features, but I don't know if Andromeda is capable of doing them yet`
`14:52.54`	Griffith`	`how would you set up the condition: # of livingu units in Trigger Unit's Unit Group == 0?`
`14:53.08`	`Zoxc`	`grim001: Making lots of systems for SC2 now?`
`14:53.36`	Griffith`	`I can't seem to do "Triggering Unit's Unit Group"`
`14:56.00`	`grim001`	`Zoxc, just getting started`
`14:56.21`	`grim001`	`Griffith, you'll have to put the unit group in a global var and reference it that way`
`14:59.34`	`DJSplendid`	Griffith` is that condition inside an if or switch?
`14:59.49`	Griffith`	`if`
`14:59.53`	`DJSplendid`	`cos if its a switch - the 'unit type of unit' stylee prefixes need puttign in at that level`
`15:00.13`	`DJSplendid`	`what you want to do will be doable, it's just finding the order in which the functions perform on one another`
`15:00.16`	`DJSplendid`	`(due to types)`
`15:00.27`	`ZarafFaraz`	`hey, you guys all know that it IS possible to color text that is using a text style, right?`
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`15:01.04`	`DJSplendid`	`yeah! use a 3rd memory-hooking app to spot the pixels and colour them on event`
`15:01.13`	`DJSplendid`	`easy!`
`15:01.24`	`ZarafFaraz`	`lol`
`15:01.37`	`DJSplendid`	`omg i jsut got banned for makign jokes about memory hooks`
`15:01.44`	`ZarafFaraz`	`no, talking about "normal coloring" :)`
`15:02.12`	`DJSplendid`	`blizzard sent me the following email: 'fuck ye off, we cannae be twatted with you techie cunts'`
`15:02.46`	`DJSplendid`	`signed, "The most religious member of staff we could find, up yours"`
`15:03.16`	`DJSplendid`	`(that's my hourly joke. i dedicate it to rrowland WHO ISNT HERE)`
`15:04.20`	`ZarafFaraz`	`he ran off when he heard you were coming`
`15:04.49`	Griffith`	`do Unit Groups start at 0 or 1?`
`15:05.15`	`ZarafFaraz`	`they don't have an integer index`
`15:05.51`	Griffith`	`oh`
`15:06.32`	`ZarafFaraz`	`you can't retrieve a specific unit via an integer from a unit group`
`15:06.43`	`ZarafFaraz`	`that's one thing that grim's AutoIndex will kinda allow you to do`
`15:07.11`	Griffith`	`wat`
`15:07.12`	Griffith`	`really?`
`15:07.51`	Griffith`	`ie. I have Probe and Zealot, I add Probe first to Unit Group 1, then I add Zealot next to Unit Group 1, then I ask for Unit 1 from Unit Group 1, isn't it Probe every time?`
`15:07.56`	`ZarafFaraz`	`look up at when he described AutoIndex`
`15:08.02`	`ZarafFaraz`	`no`
`15:08.22`	`ZarafFaraz`	`why don't you just pick units from the group with the condition that it's unit type is a probe?`
`15:08.30`	Griffith`	`what if I have multiple probes?`
`15:08.43`	Griffith`	`I'd need to set custom values on top`
`15:08.48`	`ZarafFaraz`	`then use custom values`
`15:08.49`	`ZarafFaraz`	`right`
`15:09.02`	`ZarafFaraz`	`pray tell, how are you going to grab a specific unit from a unit group?`
`15:12.02`	Griffith`	`don't know lol`
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`15:20.14`	Griffith`	`IS it possible to remove a unit without using the "Kill Unit"? I have a trigger that detects kill events`
`15:22.24`	Griffith`	`nm remove unit works i guess, i have trigger whose event is Kill Unit, but also with an action that's Kill Unit`
`15:22.40`	`Creation`	`Is there a way to get a unit to shoot and move at the same time?`
`15:24.25`	Griffith`	`the phoenix does it :P`
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`15:38.07`	`zenasprime`	`Hey folks! Looking for some play testers and feedback.... anyone game?`
`15:39.30`	Griffith`	`if i'm doing a TD like tower, and I want to read off a data structure of some sort like, Lvl 1: 5 zerglings, 20 mutas, Lvl 2: 7 zealots, 12 goliaths, wats the best way to do this?`
`15:39.59`	Griffith`	`so this way I have one set of triggers for all the levels, as opposed to one set of triggers for each level`
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`15:41.06`	`Pierrot`	`Hi all !`
`15:41.33`	`Pierrot`	`Does anyone has a good link to a talent like tutorial for SC2 ?`
`15:41.43`	`Pierrot`	`I use to have one but i lost the link`
`15:42.00`	`Ornloff`	`anyone know how to change a doodads variation through triggers?`
`15:43.05`	`Ornloff`	`neone?`
`15:44.22`	`Pierrot`	`yup`
`15:44.30`	`Pierrot`	`use good ol behav trick`
`15:44.45`	`Pierrot`	`the trigger set a behavior on/off`
`15:44.50`	`Pierrot`	`then`
`15:45.00`	`Pierrot`	`in your unit event`
`15:45.26`	`Ornloff`	`doodads aren't units tho.`
`15:46.20`	`Pierrot`	`you add the line Behavior.YourBehavior.On`
`15:46.25`	`Pierrot`	`modelswap`
`15:46.35`	`Pierrot`	`to your model with the variation number`
`15:46.43`	`Pierrot`	`doodads do have actor event`
`15:46.44`	`Ornloff`	`not sure i understand`
`15:46.47`	`Pierrot`	`well`
`15:46.48`	`Ornloff`	`1min tho`
`15:46.58`	`Pierrot`	`a doodad have actor`
`15:47.02`	`Pierrot`	`like units`
`15:47.39`	`thenk`	`edit the doodad actor to have event firing on something you do with triggers`
`15:48.05`	`Pierrot`	`What he said m'boy.`
`15:48.46`	`Pierrot`	`I m looking for a mapping clan website`
`15:48.54`	`Pierrot`	`they did map for wc3`
`15:49.08`	`Pierrot`	`Do you know the url`
`15:49.34`	`Pierrot`	`I found`
`15:50.25`	Griffith`	`What exactly are preset types?`
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`15:58.19`	`zenasprime`	`Looking for play testers. Anyone up for some games?`
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`15:59.30`	`Ornloff`	`Zena I am`
`15:59.35`	`Ornloff`	`what kinda game?`
`15:59.41`	`Ornloff`	`boring arcade again?`
`15:59.42`	`Ornloff`	`lol`
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`16:02.26`	`zenasprime`	`its a 1v1 capture/defend flags stile map, kinda like AB`
`16:02.47`	`zenasprime`	`i dont think i've ever made an arcade map though`
`16:02.54`	`zenasprime`	`let alone a boring one`
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`16:04.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~seen LordAbyss`
`16:04.44`	`purl`	`lordabyss <~Christoph@150.135.211.242> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 8h 21m 43s ago, saying: 'or you could save it as a mod and go through some funky files'.`
`16:04.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`gah`
`16:04.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I need to smack that fool!`
`16:10.05`	Griffith`	`can you 2D mixed arrays?`
`16:10.20`	Griffith`	`ie in the first dimension its type Unit, 2nd dimension the array is type Integers`
`16:11.01`	`grim001`	`if you had a unique integer per unit you could just use an int,int 2d array`
`16:11.31`	Griffith`	`hm`
`16:11.40`	Griffith`	`what do yo mean by unique integer per unit/`
`16:11.41`	`Ornloff`	`Zena`
`16:11.44`	`Ornloff`	`Are you not US?`
`16:11.53`	`grim001`	`what does it sound like`
`16:11.55`	`zenasprime`	`i am us`
`16:12.08`	`grim001`	`if each unit had a different number assigned to it`
`16:13.41`	Griffith`	`oh crap I actually meant, type Unit Type`
`16:14.02`	Griffith`	`like in a TD game, i want to spawn 5 Probes, 12 Zealots in a wave`
`16:14.23`	Griffith`	`and then just use one set of triggers to read the 5xProbes, 12xZealots`
`16:14.45`	Griffith`	`and the same set to read 9 drones, 15 mutas, etc.`
`16:15.02`	`grim001`	`what does that have to do with using a 2d array?`
`16:15.12`	`grim001`	`why not just add every unit in the wave to a unit group`
`16:15.42`	`Ornloff`	`was just in game waitin.`
`16:15.59`	`thenk`	`set an array of unit links, then use a 2d array to specify what unit (int) and how many (yourunitvar[int])`
`16:16.08`	`DJSplendid`	`argh. you spend 4 hrs on some triggers then when you launch map, a completely diff trigger you havent touched for FIFTY builds throws errors. yuk.`
`16:16.19`	`zenasprime`	`whats your username/number?`
`16:17.54`	Griffith`	`grim001, i'm talking about GENERATING the units to begin with`
`16:18.07`	Griffith`	`thenk, i can't see to find the variable Unit Links`
`16:18.07`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`~seen rodofnod`
`16:18.11`	`purl`	`rodofnod <~RodOfNOD@pool-71-112-197-158.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 11h 41m 50s ago, saying: 'Saeris u using max or just a converter?'.`
`16:18.36`	`grim001`	`why dont you use use a string array of the unit types`
`16:18.54`	`grim001`	`the integer index represents the wave #`
`16:18.58`	`grim001`	`why do you need a 2d array at all?`
`16:19.09`	`Ornloff`	`got it zena?`
`16:19.13`	Griffith`	`well i need another array to correspond to the number of units to spawn`
`16:19.16`	Griffith`	`per unit type`
`16:19.18`	Griffith`	`per wave`
`16:19.25`	Griffith`	`and some waves have more than one unit type`
`16:20.27`	`grim001`	`well, if I were you I'd be using andromeda and keep a struct containing all the information about each wave`
`16:20.36`	`grim001`	`but i assume you're just using GUI`
`16:21.13`	`grim001`	`so yes, you're going to need a different array for each bit of information about the wave`
`16:22.07`	`grim001`	`would be nice if you could do a string, int 2d array`
`16:23.01`	`EternalWraith`	`Rawr!`
`16:23.06`	`grim001`	`but the easiest thing you can probably do in GUI is to have an array that contains the # of spawn types for the wave`
`16:23.18`	`grim001`	`assuming there's 10 spawn types max in any wave in your game`
`16:23.58`	`grim001`	`you could have 10 arrays containing the spawn types for each wave, and check as many as you need to based on the # of spawn types for the wave.`
`16:24.14`	`grim001`	`kinda ugly but thats what you get in GUI.`
`16:26.04`	`grim001`	`or, you could just do...`
`16:26.58`	`grim001`	`a string[int][int] array, first int is the spawn wave, 2nd int just allows you to have multiple spawn types per wave.`
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`16:36.45`	`DJSplendid`	`is there any precident of triggers being silently deactivated by sc2 during runtime?`
`16:37.01`	`DJSplendid`	`lopps tht work fine... no errors.... then it's as if they've been turned off?`
`16:37.29`	`thenk`	`any conditions on em?`
`16:37.34`	`DJSplendid`	`masses`
`16:37.41`	`thenk`	`just debug it then :p`
`16:37.51`	`DJSplendid`	`i have been doing`
`16:38.14`	`DJSplendid`	`i can repeat contrived situations to trigger all behaviour successfully, i repeat liek 50 times`
`16:38.22`	`DJSplendid`	`every cases works`
`16:38.26`	`DJSplendid`	`then suddenly, no more`
`16:38.41`	`grim001`	`you have a bug in your code somewhere`
`16:38.49`	`DJSplendid`	`and there's no iteration in the trigger - nothing that has a finite end point or that gets incremented`
`16:39.01`	`DJSplendid`	`im hoping so`
`16:39.16`	`grim001`	`does sc2 give an error message?`
`16:39.19`	`DJSplendid`	`im hoping its not some silent 'this is too casuign to much work, im killing it' thing`
`16:39.24`	`DJSplendid`	`no error`
`16:39.50`	`DJSplendid`	`the reasons i tenatively ask is because these triggers are registered to 100 events`
`16:39.52`	`DJSplendid`	`each`
`16:39.52`	`thenk`	`publishing my map on NA now.. :)`
`16:39.54`	`DJSplendid`	`and theres 4 of them`
`16:40.08`	`DJSplendid`	`(becasue i have 100 regions)`
`16:40.08`	`thenk`	`sounds like a lot of trigger works :p`
`16:40.35`	`DJSplendid`	`indeed`
`16:40.43`	`Ousnius`	`what's the name of the zergs build ability in english?`
`16:40.48`	`Ousnius`	`prot is warp in`
`16:40.53`	`DJSplendid`	`thats why i wonder if sc2 runtime just gets a bit 'nope, turning that OFF' after a while`
`16:41.57`	`DJSplendid`	`oooooohhhh fuck me, it's cos the spawned units im testing against arent actualyl owned by a player (which some of my checks do)`
`16:42.15`	`DJSplendid`	`man, testing shit for mulitplayer modes is so hard without another person or two licenses`
`16:43.10`	`grim001`	`sc2 is only going to stop doing stuff if it hits the oplimit`
`16:43.17`	`grim001`	`and you would notice that because you'd get extreme lag`
`16:43.30`	`grim001`	`usually caused by an infinite loop`
`16:43.48`	`Myst_`	`are there channels yet?`
`16:43.51`	Griffith`	`what is andromeda?`
`16:44.24`	`grim001`	`andromeda is an addon for the galaxy scripting language`
`16:44.27`	`grim001`	`makes it not suck`
`16:44.39`	Griffith`	`lol`
`16:44.46`	Griffith`	`I know C/C++ adequately`
`16:44.55`	Griffith`	`having classes/structs would make life so much easier`
`16:45.19`	`grim001`	`well why are you coding in GUI then?`
`16:45.38`	`grim001`	`read this document then rejoice: http://www.sc2mod.com/board/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=13`
`16:46.01`	`thenk`	`need to get my map seen on NA, hrm`
`16:46.08`	`Creation`	`+ProzaicMuze check it out :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FsNCBiHkDU`
`16:47.18`	`Creation`	`finally got that damn flip attack to work`
`16:48.10`	Griffith`	`holy shit andromeda is awesome`
`16:48.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol nice`
`16:49.13`	`DJSplendid`	`fuckin aye. i'm just reading it`
`16:49.21`	`Creation`	`whats andromeda?`
`16:49.26`	`DJSplendid`	`well. the label on the box is nice ;)`
`16:49.28`	`grim001`	`read the document i linked`
`16:49.32`	`Creation`	`sure`
`16:49.48`	`Ornloff`	`grrr`
`16:49.57`	`Ornloff`	`the g.e. sux, crashes all the time :-\`
`16:50.41`	`Pierrot`	`Any Trigger Guru who could help me Writing a Inventory slot check trigger ?`
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`16:51.04`	`DJSplendid`	`i've not had it die on me yet, but occasionalyl it'll definitely try to but the error gets caught and i see the screen re-render/re-open current file`
`16:51.42`	`Creation`	`eh...`
`16:51.47`	`Creation`	`that stuff is too cody for me`
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`16:51.51`	`Creation`	`im too ADD`
`16:52.06`	`DJSplendid`	`wassa ADD, creation ?`
`16:52.14`	`Otixa`	`slaps Malu05`
`16:52.20`	`Creation`	`attention deficit disorder`
`16:52.30`	Griffith`	`man using andromeda seems like overkill`
`16:52.34`	`DJSplendid`	`oohh. i thought mayeb you didnt mean that`
`16:52.45`	Griffith`	`how do you debug`
`16:52.51`	Griffith`	`without like gdb`
`16:53.06`	Griffith`	`stack traces etc`
`16:54.29`	Griffith`	`and andromeda hasn't been updated.. since june/`
`16:54.53`	`Pierrot`	`http://tof.canardpc.com/view/1c3eee60-c75b-45a1-96f7-8bbe260663d1.jpg exclusive screenshot of my Starcraft Empire map`
`16:55.16`	`Pierrot`	`Only non hostile planet shown`
`17:01.41`	`Pierrot`	`Anyone who could help me writting a Inventory slot checking trigger`
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`17:02.13`	`Demonette`	`Waahahahahahahaaaa`
`17:02.30`	`Demonette`	`Here i am again =D`
`17:02.39`	`Otixa`	`hai Demonette :>`
`17:02.39`	`Otixa`	`http://www.livestream.com/modcraft`
`17:03.00`	`Demonette`	`XD`
`17:03.12`	`Demonette`	`Whats the program today Otixa?`
`17:03.21`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`lightsources!`
`17:03.36`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`or well, i wish :<`
`17:04.22`	`Otixa`	`Cinematics, hex tiles, something`
`17:04.25`	`Otixa`	`shrugs`
`17:04.28`	`Otixa`	`We have ProzaicMuze`
`17:04.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Lies`
`17:04.42`	`Arthas-10`	`how long will it be :p`
`17:04.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`forever`
`17:04.48`	`Otixa`	`Head lice`
`17:04.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`are itchy`
`17:04.59`	`Arthas-10`	`sounds interesting but 3-4h ?`
`17:05.09`	`Otixa`	`prolly more like 3 ;p`
`17:05.13`	`Arthas-10`	`aight`
`17:05.27`	`Arthas-10`	`will make sure to look at it after work then :p`
`17:05.31`	`Arthas-10`	`how many hours til you start`
`17:05.42`	`Otixa`	`like 10min`
`17:05.48`	`Arthas-10`	`oh`
`17:05.49`	`Arthas-10`	`:D`
`17:05.56`	`Arthas-10`	`well, gl!`
`17:06.25`	`Otixa`	`ty ;p`
`17:08.51`	`Arthas-10`	`yw!`
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`17:13.31`	`DJSplendid`	`Pierrot - bad link ?`
`17:13.55`	`Demonette`	`hi Arthas clone numerb 10`
`17:17.57`	`Arthas-10`	`Demonette oh hai`
`17:18.12`	`Demonette`	`hehehe =D Yeah i'm back =P`
`17:18.54`	`nicoli_s`	`Finally! sc2r will support all replays later today :)`
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`17:24.12`	`pirate`	`how does make a trigger library?`
`17:24.54`	`pirate`	`i've made a set of triggers that calculate the average play time per player of a given game`
`17:25.14`	`pirate`	`so that map makers can see how long people have played their maps`
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`17:38.46`	`Otixa`	`kicks Bibendus`
`17:38.51`	`Otixa`	`ModCraft is live`
`17:52.20`	`Demonette`	`ModCraft ist dead!`
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`18:13.35`	`DJSplendid`	`ohhh man`
`18:14.08`	`DJSplendid`	`when structures die they dont fire off for Event - Unit Leaves Region`
`18:14.38`	`DJSplendid`	`how the fuck do i get round that :s no other event gives you the region where it happened`
`18:15.42`	`DJSplendid`	`or is there an actor event missing / broke mewonders`
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`18:18.09`	`halohalo`	`blizzard is officially playing with us now`
`18:18.35`	`halohalo`	`i just checked my email, Sender: Blizzard Entertainment`
`18:18.52`	`halohalo`	`Subject: Blizzard Insider #34`
`18:18.59`	`halohalo`	`T_T`
`18:19.50`	`Demonette`	`Someone here for some matches? XD`
`18:21.45`	`Demonette`	`Okay that means no`
`18:21.46`	`Demonette`	`=(`
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`18:30.28`	`DJSplendid`	`holy shit it's actually the case that unit death DOESNT raise the Unit Leaves Region event`
`18:30.37`	`DJSplendid`	`wtf#`
`18:30.56`	`DJSplendid`	`halp`
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`18:38.58`	`Bifuu`	`gahhhhh i cant think of any small projects to dooooo`
`18:39.10`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`dooo doo`
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`18:41.56`	`15SAAXZI6`	`just finished darksider`
`18:42.00`	`15SAAXZI6`	`wtf with my nick..`
`18:42.19`	`Bifuu`	`you enjoy it?`
`18:42.51`	`Araxnid`	`yes`
`18:42.58`	`Araxnid`	`the end cinema was so epic`
`18:42.59`	`Araxnid`	`like EPIC`
`18:43.37`	`progammer_`	`you mean epic like this ? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/trigger-libraries/13090-library-star-movie-play-a-video-inside-map/?unread`
`18:44.41`	`Araxnid`	`no`
`18:44.41`	`Araxnid`	`xD`
`18:44.44`	`Araxnid`	`much more epic`
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`18:46.17`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`sixen`
`18:46.21`	`Sixen`	`?`
`18:46.27`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`i still can't see the site`
`18:46.36`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`does it not work with ie9 or something`
`18:46.37`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`18:46.42`	`Sixen`	`it's you dude`
`18:46.51`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`every part of sc2mapster i visit i get the sad puppy`
`18:46.57`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`it's like i got banned`
`18:46.58`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`< _<`
`18:47.16`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`help me out here`
`18:47.22`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`i am confus`
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`18:48.46`	`Hati`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/presets/no-point/`
`18:48.48`	`progammer_`	`something wrong withour ekcol`
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`18:48.57`	`progammer_`	`*with you`
`18:49.05`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`i still see`
`18:49.07`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`the sad pupp`
`18:49.08`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`y`
`18:49.18`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`anything on sc2mapster's domain, i get sad puppy`
`18:49.37`	`Sixen`	`Ekco, are you able to access the blizzcon 2010 merchandise off the store?`
`18:49.45`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`uh`
`18:49.50`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`why`
`18:49.52`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`< _<`
`18:49.54`	`Sixen`	`I had them send us the barcodes yeterday and apply it to our accounts so we could, but I still can't`
`18:49.57`	`progammer_`	`are they selling for normal ticket today`
`18:50.21`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`i got my barcode as well but i didn't know you could apply it to your account`
`18:50.34`	`Sixen`	`you can't, it's supposed to be autmoatically on your account`
`18:50.46`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`i don't see it on my account`
`18:52.03`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`where are you supposed to see it`
`18:52.10`	`Sixen`	`order history`
`18:52.31`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`empty`
`18:53.07`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`do you see it?`
`18:53.17`	`Sixen`	`no, because like I said, they aren't on our accounts`
`18:53.30`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`they're just probably behind schedule`
`18:53.36`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`like they are with a few other things..`
`18:53.36`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`lol`
`18:53.53`	`Sixen`	`which I why I told them before`
`18:53.57`	`progammer_`	`what's the few other thing ? And does the winner supposed to be confidental till blizzcon ?`
`18:54.01`	`Sixen`	`they're selling blizzcon2010 shit online`
`18:54.16`	`Sixen`	`and it's only for 2 days for ticketholders`
`18:54.24`	`Sixen`	`and since they system thinks we aren't ticketholders, we can't buy anything`
`18:54.32`	`Sixen`	`so now we have to wait in line at the con for hours >.>`
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`18:54.42`	`progammer_`	`hm stream holder can get at Oct13`
`18:54.50`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`karune probably won't be on until later tonight`
`18:55.04`	`Sixen`	`it's saturday`
`18:55.14`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`yeah but he gets on bnet on saturdays`
`18:55.25`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`usually`
`18:55.29`	`Sixen`	`oh, I don't like bugging him on bnet for this stuff =\`
`18:55.38`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`lol`
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`19:18.28`	`FockeWulf`	`Howdy all`
`19:23.34`	`DJSplendid`	`HOWDY`
`19:23.42`	`DJSplendid`	`assaultkisses FockeWulf, no homo`
`19:23.53`	`DJSplendid`	`just solved major big issue with map`
`19:25.12`	`FockeWulf`	`Hey since all 4 of my map projects are on hold until blizzard fixes some bugs I'm wonder if anyone would like me to work with them on their maps while we wait for blizzard to get their shit together. I'm also part of a clan that can help test, balance, and help with making maps as well. Anyone interested?`
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`19:25.20`	`Pierrot`	`Hi all.`
`19:25.25`	`FockeWulf`	`sup`
`19:25.54`	`FockeWulf`	`Currently looking for a map project :)`
`19:25.58`	`Pierrot`	`Anybody who could explain me hos to use the trigger send Actor message`
`19:26.10`	`FockeWulf`	`oh thats easy lol`
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`19:26.16`	`FockeWulf`	`what message do you want to send?`
`19:26.17`	`Pierrot`	`well`
`19:26.32`	`Pierrot`	`its not the message that i want to be explained`
`19:26.37`	`Pierrot`	`its the how`
`19:26.53`	`FockeWulf`	`its a trigger right there`
`19:26.55`	`Pierrot`	`I struggled with string name or things like that`
`19:27.00`	`FockeWulf`	`oh nononono`
`19:27.02`	`Pierrot`	`What name should I input`
`19:27.06`	`FockeWulf`	`its a preset, ie a function already built in`
`19:27.22`	`FockeWulf`	`ok what you do is create a "send actor message trigger" right?`
`19:27.32`	`Pierrot`	`yup`
`19:27.50`	`Pierrot`	`I want to create model or actor based on the item the unit has in its inventory`
`19:28.15`	`FockeWulf`	`sorry my bad not preset value`
`19:28.29`	`FockeWulf`	`wait you want to create one?`
`19:28.34`	`DJSplendid`	`FockeWulf, you and your team on EU ?`
`19:28.48`	`FockeWulf`	`West, although the clan is pretty much global :)`
`19:28.57`	`DJSplendid`	`I'd like to swap testing/debug/production time with some more ppl`
`19:29.10`	`FockeWulf`	`sounds good to me`
`19:29.11`	`FockeWulf`	`what project?`
`19:29.16`	`FockeWulf`	`and do you have a voip?`
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`19:29.22`	`DJSplendid`	`yeah`
`19:29.27`	`DJSplendid`	`long story short, hardcore gamer`
`19:29.32`	`DJSplendid`	`all thgat goes with it`
`19:29.37`	`DJSplendid`	`um, current projec tis GoCraft`
`19:29.39`	`Araxnid`	`damn`
`19:29.40`	`FockeWulf`	`cause my clan has a teamspeak 3 server we host thats got ftp built in`
`19:29.43`	`DJSplendid`	`a beta is published`
`19:29.45`	`FockeWulf`	`all my maps are on there`
`19:29.56`	`Araxnid`	`i need to buy eu, so many events miss me`
`19:29.57`	`Araxnid`	`(`
`19:30.21`	`Araxnid`	`o i them`
`19:30.31`	`DJSplendid`	`i'm about to get comepletely wtf-pwnt by gf who dmenads i watch x factor with her :s`
`19:30.42`	`DJSplendid`	`FockeWulf- you ion here often? ill catch up with you later`
`19:30.51`	`FockeWulf`	`ok btw pierrot if you want to CREATE an actor, that needs to be done in the deta editor not triggers`
`19:30.53`	`FockeWulf`	`umm`
`19:30.53`	`FockeWulf`	`or`
`19:30.57`	`FockeWulf`	`write this down quick`
`19:30.57`	`DJSplendid`	`(im idle in here 24/7 until i get banned)`
`19:31.01`	`FockeWulf`	`teamspeak 3 server`
`19:31.11`	`FockeWulf`	`server.clanrks.com port 9987 no pw`
`19:31.15`	`DJSplendid`	`got it`
`19:31.20`	`FockeWulf`	`im on there pretty much all day`
`19:31.23`	`DJSplendid`	`west EU you say ?`
`19:31.28`	`FockeWulf`	`nono NA`
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`19:31.29`	`DJSplendid`	`France/UK/Spain ?`
`19:31.31`	`DJSplendid`	`ooooo`
`19:31.37`	`Creation`	`Can i get 2 testers to help me and shawn test 'Power Overwhelming'?`
`19:31.41`	`DJSplendid`	`<- EU`
`19:31.43`	`Creation`	`USA`
`19:31.51`	`DJSplendid`	`boooo`
`19:31.54`	`FockeWulf`	`well hey maybe the map can be on both rhelms?`
`19:32.04`	`DJSplendid`	`sry, just to be clear, not booo @ usa, booo at not being on same shard`
`19:32.22`	`FockeWulf`	`we can make it work :)`
`19:32.26`	`FockeWulf`	`umm`
`19:32.28`	`Pierrot`	`FockeWulf : I want to send the message create to an actor whose host is an actor of a unit`
`19:32.28`	`Creation`	`anyone?`
`19:32.32`	`DJSplendid`	`sure, ill log on and say hi :)`
`19:32.32`	`Creation`	`plz?`
`19:32.39`	`DJSplendid`	`ive bookmarked the server`
`19:32.42`	`FockeWulf`	`ok give me a minute`
`19:32.46`	`FockeWulf`	`ok fair enough :)`
`19:32.58`	`DJSplendid`	`gotta wtach ferking x factor`
`19:33.05`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`19:33.06`	`DJSplendid`	`not good :(`
`19:33.18`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`19:33.19`	`FockeWulf`	`umm`
`19:33.29`	`FockeWulf`	`can you rephrase`
`19:33.38`	`FockeWulf`	`cause there is a "create" message and a create actor`
`19:33.42`	`FockeWulf`	`actually wait`
`19:33.45`	`FockeWulf`	`<< retard`
`19:33.53`	`FockeWulf`	`ok, here is the deal`
`19:34.05`	`FockeWulf`	`what are you trying to do?`
`19:34.11`	`FockeWulf`	`causes theres diff ways it can be done`
`19:34.40`	`Pierrot`	`I have a unit who has an inventory. When it carries an item I want an actor to be created`
`19:35.01`	`Pierrot`	`So i created a actor : model etc`
`19:35.17`	`Pierrot`	`and I want it to be created by the trigger`
`19:35.31`	`Pierrot`	`with the use of the message create`
`19:35.37`	`FockeWulf`	`ok creation im FockeWulf.178 on NA`
`19:35.47`	`Creation`	`oh cool`
`19:35.49`	`Pierrot`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:35.52`	`Creation`	`ok inviting you guys now`
`19:35.58`	`Pierrot`	`this is in ctrl d view`
`19:36.11`	`Araxnid`	`hmm`
`19:36.26`	`FockeWulf`	`oh ok`
`19:36.34`	`FockeWulf`	`so you want it to create another actor on top of the current one`
`19:36.35`	`FockeWulf`	`is that it?`
`19:36.41`	`Pierrot`	`yup`
`19:36.48`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`19:36.50`	`FockeWulf`	`best way`
`19:36.53`	`FockeWulf`	`is not trigger at all`
`19:36.58`	`Pierrot`	`well actually`
`19:37.00`	`FockeWulf`	`less triggers = less lag`
`19:37.13`	`FockeWulf`	`Here is what you need`
`19:37.15`	`Pierrot`	`i want the actor newly created to have a shape based on the item carried`
`19:37.25`	`Creation`	`FockeWulf sent you invite`
`19:37.26`	`FockeWulf`	`ya we can do that`
`19:37.39`	`FockeWulf`	`here is what you do`
`19:37.40`	`FockeWulf`	`first`
`19:37.49`	`FockeWulf`	`create all the models you want and make sure their the right model type`
`19:37.59`	`FockeWulf`	`I think cmodel will do it but yo probably want to be sure`
`19:38.06`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`19:38.18`	`Pierrot`	`https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1BlSsWEJ7FxPHk6fxwXYQDQ804977dtn34nWuYl4yCVA&hl=fr&authkey=CKiS_asH`
`19:38.26`	`Pierrot`	`this is a draw of my concept`
`19:38.32`	`Pierrot`	`the planet is a planet`
`19:38.42`	`Pierrot`	`the star is the player team color`
`19:38.48`	`FockeWulf`	`then you need a validator that simply says if numitems (your item) >0`
`19:38.53`	`Pierrot`	`and the small circle represent the actor to be created`
`19:39.00`	`FockeWulf`	`then you need to make a requirement based off that validator`
`19:39.05`	`Pierrot`	`ah shoot`
`19:39.07`	`FockeWulf`	`actually you can probably leave out the validator entirely`
`19:39.10`	`Pierrot`	`validator are so cool`
`19:39.15`	`Creation`	`Fockewulf!!! bonk`
`19:39.44`	`Pierrot`	`ok requirement`
`19:39.47`	`Pierrot`	`illl see`
`19:39.49`	`Pierrot`	`thx`
`19:40.02`	`Pierrot`	`if it works I ll made a star system with your name`
`19:40.10`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`19:40.16`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`19:40.20`	`FockeWulf`	`once you make the requirement`
`19:40.24`	`FockeWulf`	`then you need to go into your planet actor`
`19:40.26`	`FockeWulf`	`in the events`
`19:40.40`	`FockeWulf`	`you need to add a new one that says create actor if validator is true`
`19:40.53`	`FockeWulf`	`if im right`
`19:41.01`	`FockeWulf`	`it will do it auto whenever it has it and no trigger`
`19:41.05`	`FockeWulf`	`and btw`
`19:41.26`	`FockeWulf`	`I think you need to have the actor event made before you can trigger it :)`
`19:42.55`	`Araxnid`	`is there any easy way to upgrade one unit in another?`
`19:43.01`	`Araxnid`	`like for example civilian in marine?`
`19:43.50`	`Pierrot`	`hmm`
`19:43.59`	`Pierrot`	`Araxnid : yes`
`19:44.13`	`Pierrot`	`Araxnid : Create a morph ability`
`19:44.20`	`Pierrot`	`then in the info +`
`19:44.27`	`Pierrot`	`set the unit to marine`
`19:44.30`	`Pierrot`	`and voila`
`19:44.42`	`Pierrot`	`need more tweak though to be ok`
`19:44.47`	`Pierrot`	`but it ll work`
`19:45.39`	`Araxnid`	`hm`
`19:45.45`	`Araxnid`	`ok`
`19:45.46`	`Araxnid`	`thanks`
`19:46.00`	`Araxnid`	`its too easy way for blizz`
`19:46.06`	`Araxnid`	`i think it will bug somewhere xDD`
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`20:11.36`	`LordAbyss`	`i wanted to limit combo the fans :(`
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`20:18.40`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
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`20:19.12`	`Creation`	`FockeWulf im not so sure about your less triggers less lag theory`
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`20:19.13`	`FockeWulf`	`Anyone got a map project they would like to collaborate on? My 4 are on hold while blizz gets their actor together`
`20:19.21`	`Creation`	`I have 350 triggers in my map`
`20:19.27`	`FockeWulf`	`350..`
`20:19.34`	`FockeWulf`	`seperate triggers?`
`20:19.37`	`Creation`	`yes`
`20:19.40`	`FockeWulf`	`>.>`
`20:19.47`	`FockeWulf`	`one for each little thing?`
`20:19.58`	`Creation`	`obviously they dont run silmutanously`
`20:20.00`	`Creation`	`but yes`
`20:20.16`	`FockeWulf`	`may i say that you could probably do that whole thing in less than 20 triggers if that?`
`20:20.32`	`Creation`	`Probably, but I have no idea how`
`20:20.35`	`FockeWulf`	`its litterally better to have a couple massive triggers than a bunch of small ones`
`20:20.38`	`FockeWulf`	`simple`
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`20:20.40`	`Creation`	`im honestly not that smart`
`20:20.42`	`FockeWulf`	`actions definitions`
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`20:20.53`	`FockeWulf`	`I make mine so i can plug in the same bits of code everywhere`
`20:21.03`	`FockeWulf`	`maps that lag typically have poor triggering`
`20:21.17`	`FockeWulf`	`here is what I tend to do`
`20:21.23`	`FockeWulf`	`I make all my stuff in action definitions`
`20:21.29`	`FockeWulf`	`with parameters`
`20:21.31`	`Creation`	`stop right there`
`20:21.34`	`FockeWulf`	`and i make them as universal as possible`
`20:21.36`	`Creation`	`I dont even know what youre talking about`
`20:21.41`	`Pierrot`	`:)`
`20:21.45`	`FockeWulf`	`ok go to your trigger editor`
`20:21.47`	`FockeWulf`	`real quick`
`20:21.49`	`Creation`	`ok`
`20:22.02`	`FockeWulf`	`right click where you would normally create a trigger?`
`20:22.08`	`Creation`	`mmmhmm`
`20:22.10`	`FockeWulf`	`and hit action definition`
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`20:22.31`	`Creation`	`k still loading 1 sec`
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`20:23.06`	`Creation`	`ok`
`20:23.11`	`Creation`	`i hit it`
`20:23.13`	`FockeWulf`	`you made the action definition?`
`20:23.22`	`Creation`	`and I see the thing everyone always works on that I dont understand`
`20:23.26`	`Creation`	`yes`
`20:23.30`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`20:23.37`	`FockeWulf`	`its very similar to a trigger`
`20:23.41`	`FockeWulf`	`in this case though`
`20:23.47`	`FockeWulf`	`depenging on how you do it`
`20:23.51`	`FockeWulf`	`you can use it multiple times`
`20:24.03`	`FockeWulf`	`what these do is make it so you don't have to copy n paste near as much`
`20:24.09`	`FockeWulf`	`like let me give you an example`
`20:24.24`	`FockeWulf`	`a diplomacy map like sc1 diplo infnity`
`20:24.25`	`Pierrot`	`give him the button creation process`
`20:24.37`	`Pierrot`	`really understandable`
`20:24.51`	`Creation`	`never played that Fockewulf`
`20:24.57`	`FockeWulf`	`I have one that will increase the size of a dialog box for every button i add :P`
`20:25.00`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`20:25.03`	`FockeWulf`	`income trigger`
`20:25.16`	`FockeWulf`	`if you have a building next to a "city" (doodad)`
`20:25.19`	`FockeWulf`	`you get money evert 2 mins`
`20:25.27`	`FockeWulf`	`here is what you do`
`20:25.43`	`FockeWulf`	`trigger 1 at map int`
`20:25.51`	`FockeWulf`	`lets say region`
`20:26.17`	`FockeWulf`	`global var: region array 12 for 12 players`
`20:26.26`	`Creation`	`I dont know what an array is`
`20:26.33`	`FockeWulf`	`think a list`
`20:26.47`	`FockeWulf`	`or like a tic tac toe box`
`20:26.56`	`FockeWulf`	`it will store a bit of info in each square`
`20:27.05`	`Creation`	`k`
`20:27.10`	`FockeWulf`	`and the index calues are the rows and columns`
`20:27.23`	`FockeWulf`	`you'd be amazed at the shit you can shove in those things`
`20:27.32`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`20:27.41`	`Creation`	`im sorry I just dont think my mind works like that :/`
`20:27.45`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`20:27.47`	`Creation`	`im horrible at math`
`20:27.49`	`FockeWulf`	`actually nvm on the index value`
`20:27.58`	`FockeWulf`	`just make it a simple global region var`
`20:27.59`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`20:28.20`	`FockeWulf`	`then in a map int trigger add all the regions to the global region var`
`20:28.33`	`FockeWulf`	`then you create an action definition`
`20:28.39`	`FockeWulf`	`here is what it says`
`20:28.47`	`Creation`	`If I wanted a trigger like that I would simply say if building is with region, add 2 minerals every 6 seconds of game time`
`20:28.55`	`Creation`	`done deal`
`20:28.56`	`FockeWulf`	`ya`
`20:28.58`	`FockeWulf`	`yup`
`20:29.03`	`FockeWulf`	`would you copy n paste it over and over again?`
`20:29.13`	`Creation`	`what do you mean?`
`20:29.28`	`FockeWulf`	`ok cause if you create a single global variable`
`20:29.32`	`Creation`	`No i would make a trigger: every 6 seconds of game timer, if then else`
`20:29.42`	`Creation`	`done deal`
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`20:29.44`	`FockeWulf`	`ya, what if you have some 80 regions though?`
`20:29.53`	`FockeWulf`	`cause diplomacy maps can have that easy`
`20:30.12`	`Creation`	`I guess I would make 80 if then else :/`
`20:30.19`	`FockeWulf`	`don't need to`
`20:30.39`	`FockeWulf`	`actually`
`20:30.41`	`Pierrot`	`FockeWulf : Is it possible to create x times an same actor. If my unit is able to carry 10 same item i want 10 actor`
`20:30.43`	`FockeWulf`	`can we just teamview up?`
`20:30.49`	`Pierrot`	`Do i have to creat 10 actor ?`
`20:30.56`	`FockeWulf`	`ya but they'd stack on top of another`
`20:30.58`	`FockeWulf`	`ie no point`
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`20:31.10`	`FockeWulf`	`actually`
`20:31.16`	`FockeWulf`	`they would simple stack over eachother`
`20:31.21`	`FockeWulf`	`meaning you wouldnt even see 10`
`20:31.28`	`Pierrot`	`Cant I add Term to offset them`
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`20:35.29`	`tdawg`	`anybody win the sc2 custom map contest?`
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`20:39.00`	`ZarafFaraz_`	`So any word yet on contest winners?`
`20:41.35`	`DJSplendid`	`YES`
`20:41.39`	`DJSplendid`	`they haven't been announced`
`20:44.10`	`pirate`	`not publicly anyway`
`20:49.04`	`FockeWulf`	`?`
`20:49.08`	`FockeWulf`	`why is that a "yes"`
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`21:00.57`	`Creation`	`Fockwulf when im done with my map ill send it to you so you can tell me how much time I wasted`
`21:01.11`	`Creation`	`by looking at the triggers.`
`21:02.15`	`slightlyrandom`	`You have wasted INFINITE time!`
`21:03.08`	`Zara`	`Hi all!`
`21:04.11`	`Zara`	`Guys which flag should I set to make a unit invulnerable?`
`21:05.09`	`Zara`	`Do I need to set something else too? I made a unit flagged invulnerable but I can still attack/kill it. Maybe because I placed it with triggers?`
`21:08.45`	`Zara`	`please don't write all at the same time because I won't understand :look:`
`21:09.18`	`EternalWraith`	`Zara: Would this help?. http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/3324-help-with-applying-invulnerablitiy-to-a-unit/`
`21:11.42`	`twobit`	`why are the gayest maps at the top of the popular list?`
`21:12.03`	`DJSplendid`	`Cos GoCraft isn't released yet`
`21:12.09`	`DJSplendid`	`that's the gayest`
`21:12.13`	`DJSplendid`	`it'll gay-pwn`
`21:12.35`	`Zara`	`Eteral many thanks`
`21:12.55`	`Zara`	`But so... if I need to use a behavior... what is the Invulnerable flag used for?`
`21:13.00`	`Zara`	`*eternal`
`21:14.23`	`Creation`	`anyone feel like helping me test on USA?`
`21:16.17`	`Zara`	`don't have an account on usa sorry`
`21:18.07`	`EternalWraith`	`Zara: The flag in the Data editor should make the unit Invulnerable and unable to be targeted. Have you done it through there or triggers?, and if triggers, are you certain the trigger itself is correctly applying it?`
`21:18.55`	`Zara`	`I did it in data editor eternal`
`21:19.21`	`Zara`	`just checking Invul flag`
`21:19.21`	`Zara`	`but i can attack that unit anyway and kill it`
`21:19.45`	`Zara`	`wheter is preplaced or created by trigger... that flag doesn't seem to do its job`
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`21:20.10`	`Zara`	`maybe there is other things I must change to make it work?`
`21:21.06`	`Zara`	`weird -_-`
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`21:22.22`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`21:22.25`	`onetwo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:22.27`	`onetwo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:22.43`	`onetwo`	`sorry too bad people exploited during the wave by juggling units`
`21:23.28`	`EternalWraith`	`Zara: I set the flag now for a unit in a test map, and it works fine for me.`
`21:23.44`	`Zara`	`you can't target?`
`21:23.49`	`Zara`	`is it a neutral unitÂ°`
`21:23.50`	`Zara`	`?`
`21:23.56`	`Zara`	`preplaced or trigger placed?`
`21:24.29`	`EternalWraith`	`Preplaced. Unit belongs to me. Ordering other units to attack it gives "Unable to target Invulnerable"`
`21:24.48`	`Creation`	`can anyone from USA plz spare a couple minutes to help with a test?`
`21:24.53`	`Creation`	`We have 3, just need 1 more`
`21:25.11`	`onetwo`	`sure`
`21:25.13`	`onetwo`	`you guys always help me`
`21:25.15`	`onetwo`	`;D`
`21:25.15`	`Creation`	`thanks man`
`21:27.44`	`Zara`	`nice`
`21:27.54`	`Zara`	`it's totally fucked up for me`
`21:28.06`	`EternalWraith`	`Zara: Have you tried for other units?`
`21:28.07`	`Zara`	`it's the ONLY flag you have?`
`21:28.21`	`Zara`	`nothing else?`
`21:29.05`	`EternalWraith`	Zara: Well its the only flag I applied. It was to the Zealot. Didn`t change anything else, just tick "Invulnerable" flag, and thats it.
`21:30.21`	`Zara`	`duped zealot... mh ok`
`21:30.25`	`Zara`	`lemme check it out`
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`21:43.28`	`Thels`	`argh`
`21:43.30`	`Thels`	`don't get it`
`21:43.32`	`Thels`	`they mine`
`21:43.36`	`Thels`	`2 build, 2 don't`
`21:48.28`	`onetwo`	`Thels`
`21:48.37`	`onetwo`	`did you see the message`
`21:48.37`	`Thels`	`hey`
`21:48.39`	`onetwo`	`i pasted in`
`21:48.49`	`Thels`	`message?`
`21:48.54`	`onetwo`	":( :( why did u change ur map that u can`t selll towers while round that the other way it was much better :( but ur game is now higher ^^"
`21:48.55`	`Thels`	`We did play the map a few times`
`21:48.56`	`onetwo`	`from youtube PM`
`21:49.02`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`21:49.03`	`onetwo`	`he knows why`
`21:49.07`	`Thels`	`lol`
`21:49.07`	`onetwo`	`no more exploiting`
`21:49.16`	`Thels`	`hehe`
`21:49.17`	`Thels`	`yeah`
`21:49.24`	`Thels`	`btw`
`21:49.36`	`Thels`	`how hard would it to switch players 3 and 5 around?`
`21:52.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`i'm on ModCraft Onetwo if you were talkin' to me`
`21:53.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`so not paying attention`
`21:54.30`	`rrowland`	`fuck youuuu`
`21:54.44`	`onetwo`	`na i wasnt`
`21:54.54`	`onetwo`	`Thels I dont think its be too hard`
`21:54.57`	`onetwo`	`but theres an issue with that`
`21:54.59`	`onetwo`	`with lobbies`
`21:55.05`	`onetwo`	`if 4 people join`
`21:55.11`	`onetwo`	`right now they can do LVR`
`21:55.14`	`onetwo`	`but if i switched that`
`21:55.16`	`onetwo`	`it woldnt work really`
`21:55.25`	`Thels`	`but what about 2 players?`
`21:55.27`	`Thels`	`or 3 players?`
`21:55.37`	`Thels`	`yeah, 4 players would suck`
`21:55.47`	`Thels`	`but what if you want to play as a 3 player team?`
`21:56.09`	`Saeris`	`btw onetwo, needa talk to you later when you aren't busy`
`21:56.14`	`Thels`	`I'm guessing using the actual team slots would make it too hard`
`21:56.17`	`Saeris`	`or, just when you're not busy`
`21:56.33`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`xxxxxxx`
`21:56.33`	`Bibendus`	`is no longer away : Gone for 4 hours 23 minutes 40 seconds`
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`21:58.54`	`Oden`	`Aloha all`
`21:59.37`	`OdenTheMage`	`Aloha all`
`22:00.12`	`OdenTheMage`	`Anyone want to play a new RPG map with me and a friend?`
`22:00.26`	`Thels`	`EU or US?`
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`22:00.48`	`OdenTheMage`	`US`
`22:00.55`	`Thels`	`nm then`
`22:01.30`	`OdenTheMage`	`Yeah, were testing a new RPG map since the new things god added`
`22:01.34`	`OdenTheMage`	`got`
`22:01.43`	`OdenTheMage`	`Its US hosted only`
`22:01.44`	`OdenTheMage`	`:(`
`22:05.04`	`OdenTheMage`	`Noone wants to help? we just need +1 :P`
`22:05.14`	`OdenTheMage`	`its allot of fun, I promise!`
`22:06.10`	`Helral`	`~seen Pierrot`
`22:06.18`	`purl`	`pierrot <Pierrot@ARennes-256-1-35-43.w90-32.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1h 34m 50s ago, saying: 'Cant I add Term to offset them'.`
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`22:16.24`	`Jcup`	`hey guys`
`22:16.37`	`Jcup`	`What does boopere mean?`
`22:16.51`	`Jcup`	`My captcha was boopere inmates lol`
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`22:23.23`	`Jum-Jum`	`lol`
`22:26.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`my ears are teh ouch`
`22:26.08`	Griffith`	`is there an easy way to give a unit an upgrade without giving the player the upgrade?`
`22:26.28`	Griffith`	`it seems that units upgrades don't even transfer over like they did in WC3 when you changed player ownership`
`22:26.33`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes`
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`22:29.14`	`Saeris`	`griffith`
`22:29.23`	Griffith`	`?`
`22:29.32`	`Saeris`	`give the upgrade a requirement that the unit have a buff`
`22:29.34`	`Thels`	`can you change a player's race in game?`
`22:29.39`	`Saeris`	`and then that buff is just a behavior`
`22:29.40`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`where do i find the creep texture? :D`
`22:29.40`	`Bibendus`	`is no longer away : Gone for 33 minutes 7 seconds`
`22:29.41`	`Saeris`	`you apply the unit`
`22:29.46`	`Saeris`	`that would transfer between players`
`22:29.51`	`Saeris`	`when ownership changes`
`22:29.55`	`Bibendus`	`otixa`
`22:30.13`	`Bibendus`	`do u think i can make a wall made of creep?`
`22:30.18`	`Bibendus`	`using the ingame texture?`
`22:30.21`	`Saeris`	`both players have the upgrade researched, when the units get the "upgrade" they just get the behavior`
`22:30.23`	`Saeris`	`got it?`
`22:31.58`	Griffith`	`erm i was thinking of using player ownership as a means to enable a given player to have a unit with an upgrade without having researched it`
`22:32.07`	Griffith`	`so just think of it as one player`
`22:32.19`	Griffith`	`i dont even see where you can set the upgrade to require a buff`
`22:33.44`	`Saeris`	`it would be a validator`
`22:34.00`	`Saeris`	`but then again, i'm not terribly good with upgrades`
`22:34.14`	`Saeris`	`just trying to give you some work arounds`
`22:34.30`	Griffith`	`the other option is to create another version of the unit`
`22:34.33`	Griffith`	`and have 2 units`
`22:35.10`	Griffith`	`if i were to do that, how can i enable the upgrade on the other version to be on by default?`
`22:36.13`	`OdenTheMage`	`Anyone want to play a new RPG map on the US server?`
`22:36.32`	`OdenTheMage`	`we just need +1 to be able to fight the bosses`
`22:37.30`	`OdenTheMage`	`Pretty please? we been trying for past 4 hour s to get a good test of the 3rd boss going, but we can't do it with 2 people`
`22:39.21`	`OdenTheMage`	`noone? :(`
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`22:39.47`	`Tordy`	`wassaaaaaaaap!`
`22:40.31`	`twobit`	`anyone makin any FUN maps? not the bs on the pop list?`
`22:41.05`	`Tordy`	`what's a fun map?`
`22:41.12`	`twobit`	`not a td?`
`22:41.13`	`twobit`	`lol`
`22:41.22`	`twobit`	`they fun, but way overplayed now.`
`22:41.33`	`twobit`	`need a fun CTF game or soemthin like that`
`22:41.36`	`Tordy`	`well under the popularity system, only tds will dominate :/`
`22:41.37`	`twobit`	`KOH`
`22:41.39`	`twobit`	`something`
`22:41.42`	`Tordy`	`people too lazy to try something new`
`22:41.43`	Griffith`	`can anyone register on sc2mapster or know of a forum to ask mapping questions?`
`22:41.54`	`currydevil`	`making an rpg, but ... it's only half terrained atm`
`22:42.46`	`Tordy`	`waddaaap!`
`22:42.47`	`Tordy`	`:]`
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`22:43.23`	`Tordy`	`im spending way too mcuh time trying to get a simple system tot work`
`22:44.05`	`EternalWraith`	`@#@%ing ants. I really should stop eating at my keyboard:/`
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`22:44.43`	`rrowland`	`gross`
`22:45.01`	`mrop`	`sup programmer`
`22:45.11`	`progammer`	`i didnt win the contest`
`22:45.12`	`progammer`	`i'm sad`
`22:45.14`	`progammer`	`cry with me`
`22:45.16`	`mrop`	`:(`
`22:45.20`	`mrop`	`:__(`
`22:45.24`	`mrop`	`which one`
`22:45.30`	`OdenTheMage`	`Anyone want to help with a epic rpg, we need +1 thats willing to not leave after 5 minutes becouse game is in alph`
`22:45.31`	`currydevil`	`Zaraf probably`
`22:45.34`	`progammer`	`the long one seems good`
`22:45.58`	`progammer`	`rrowland: did u actually win, and what did they said`
`22:46.13`	`rrowland`	`why do you think i won`
`22:46.24`	`mrop`	`i thought zara one`
`22:46.31`	`progammer`	`lol cause you keep bragging`
`22:46.33`	`mrop`	`he had like 60+% of the votes`
`22:46.35`	`progammer`	`nvm then`
`22:46.41`	`rrowland`	`what`
`22:46.50`	`rrowland`	`when did i brag`
`22:46.53`	`rrowland`	`and why would i brag`
`22:47.14`	`progammer`	`for fun`
`22:47.20`	`SuraklinSC2`	`yawns.`
`22:47.23`	`OdenTheMage`	`Noone will help with an awesomly fun RPG thats not on the pop list? :D`
`22:47.25`	`rrowland`	`it would be kind of stupid to brag when i didnt actually win`
`22:47.33`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Why's insane AI gotta cheat so much. :/`
`22:47.57`	`rrowland`	`anyone want to buy a blizzcon ticket? dont think ill be using it`
`22:48.51`	`OdenTheMage`	`How much`
`22:49.04`	`EternalWraith`	`rrowland: Sell on Ebay`
`22:49.27`	`progammer`	`pretty sure that's not really allowed`
`22:50.05`	`rrowland`	`pretty sure everyone does it anyway`
`22:50.08`	`rrowland`	`and why would i care`
`22:50.36`	`progammer`	`well at least the ticket is invalidated`
`22:50.42`	`progammer`	`nothing happen`
`22:50.47`	`rrowland`	`what`
`22:51.18`	`onetwo`	`hmm ive been looking if there stylus's thin enough for sketching in ipod or ipad`
`22:51.20`	`onetwo`	`and there isnt`
`22:51.23`	`onetwo`	`only fat styluses`
`22:51.25`	`onetwo`	`kidn of sucks`
`22:51.31`	`onetwo`	`no sketching oppurtunity`
`22:51.36`	`onetwo`	`but so many sketch apps`
`22:52.10`	`OdenTheMage`	`I use the palm centro stylus on my ipad`
`22:52.13`	`OdenTheMage`	`works ok`
`22:52.46`	`onetwo`	`ah`
`22:53.24`	`OdenTheMage`	`So noone wants to help us test some stuff on an rpg map? will only take half an hour`
`22:53.52`	`Helral`	`OdenTheMage: on europe?`
`22:53.56`	`OdenTheMage`	`US`
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`22:54.20`	`onetwo`	`itll be hilarious to see the custom map and cine winners`
`22:54.20`	`Helral`	`guess I'll go off to sleep ;p`
`22:54.21`	`onetwo`	`for blizzcon`
`22:54.32`	`onetwo`	`itll be a dancing scv and then a dancing scv map`
`22:54.43`	`onetwo`	`and as rodrigo says, burning tide will also win`
`22:54.44`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`22:55.19`	`rrowland`	`I don't even know what burning tide is`
`22:55.19`	`progammer`	`arent there a mule dancing video that win some contest`
`22:55.40`	`rrowland`	`I'm not sure why I had any faith in blizzard in the first place`
`22:55.50`	`rrowland`	`They've monumentally fucked up every contest they've ever had`
`22:56.30`	`OdenTheMage`	`But, they win the contest for most fuck ups.`
`22:56.39`	`OdenTheMage`	`No wait, that managed to fuck that up too`
`22:57.16`	`mahashiro`	`hey guys, do any of you crash the editor when changing the "Infestor - Infested Terrans (Issue Morph Order to Egg)" ability?`
`22:57.25`	`rrowland`	`I'm writing a manifesto while I wait for 100% confirmation I am not a winner`
`22:57.41`	`mahashiro`	`the bug keeps happening so I want to see if it's reproducible`
`22:57.43`	`rrowland`	`At that point I will publish my manifesto and upload my map before jumping off the empire state building`
`22:57.48`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`22:57.55`	`onetwo`	`rrowland: we all share your pain`
`22:58.02`	`onetwo`	`well i was hoping some of your guys' good maps would win`
`22:58.07`	`onetwo`	`but watch there be no sc2mapster`
`22:58.11`	`onetwo`	`in any cine or map entry`
`22:58.15`	`rrowland`	`It's all going to be nexus wars shit`
`22:58.20`	`onetwo`	`burning tide is blizz's custom map`
`22:58.21`	`onetwo`	`that was featured`
`22:58.24`	`onetwo`	`because it wasnt popular enough`
`22:58.35`	`progammer`	`mahashiro: you probably made some infinite loop from those effect`
`22:58.41`	`rrowland`	`They gave fucking sotis a free flight to blizzcon`
`22:58.45`	`rrowland`	`Because it's a dota knockoff`
`22:58.47`	`mahashiro`	`oh I see`
`22:58.53`	`mahashiro`	`I didn't know you could do that in data editor`
`22:58.58`	`rrowland`	`That's an indicator of the intelligence level right there`
`22:59.05`	`onetwo`	`well of any of the maps on page 1`
`22:59.10`	`onetwo`	`sotis would be the only that deserves`
`22:59.11`	`onetwo`	`imo`
`22:59.14`	`onetwo`	`in terms of map making skill`
`22:59.32`	`EternalWraith`	`rrowland: Whaaat? Sotis creator free flight to Blizzcon?`
`22:59.45`	`rrowland`	`Yes`
`22:59.50`	`rrowland`	`And since lots of dota players go`
`22:59.55`	`rrowland`	`It'll probably be set up in a booth`
`22:59.55`	`EternalWraith`	`Lol`
`23:00.11`	`onetwo`	`LOL`
`23:00.12`	`onetwo`	`hahah`
`23:00.17`	`rrowland`	`Seriously have lost all respect I had for blizz as a company of quality games / decisions`
`23:00.18`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes`
`23:00.21`	`rrowland`	`It was once true but not anymore`
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`23:00.54`	`Tordy`	`i didntk now you liekd to go wert`
`23:00.57`	`Saeris`	`i'd still have to believe that the core devs at blizzard are still as great as they ever were`
`23:01.04`	`Tordy`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz free flight to blizzcon!?`
`23:01.06`	`Tordy`	`where`
`23:01.07`	`Saeris`	`but that company's size has swelled so much over the years`
`23:01.10`	`mahashiro`	`progammer: I don't think I made a loop, I created a new document and attempted to change the ability on the effect, and it crashed immediately`
`23:01.14`	`progammer`	`but they become to big to handle themselves ?`
`23:01.16`	`mahashiro`	`does it not happen w/ yours?`
`23:01.17`	`onetwo`	`well lets wait and see on oct 22`
`23:01.23`	`onetwo`	`then we can judge`
`23:01.24`	`progammer`	`crash when editing ?`
`23:01.34`	`mahashiro`	`using the gui data editor`
`23:01.35`	`onetwo`	`mostly, ill be interested in the cine qualities`
`23:01.39`	`Tordy`	`who got free flgiht`
`23:01.40`	`onetwo`	`since thats the one i entered`
`23:01.43`	`rrowland`	`any of you guys going to blizzcon?`
`23:01.48`	`mahashiro`	`make a new document and change the infested egg effect`
`23:01.48`	`Saeris`	`i'm saying they've become big enough that activision's evil overlords can work their grubby hands in to all parts of the business`
`23:01.49`	`onetwo`	`and i dont know anyone who has my experience with sc2 editor cinematics`
`23:01.51`	`Saeris`	`and fuck it up that way`
`23:01.53`	`onetwo`	`that enetered`
`23:02.00`	`mahashiro`	`to anything other than morph to infested terran`
`23:02.00`	`Tordy`	`it's all activision!`
`23:02.03`	`Tordy`	`let blizzard be!`
`23:02.04`	`Tordy`	`sdlfjsdklj`
`23:02.10`	`onetwo`	`guessing some wow machinima with bad voice acting might be in there`
`23:02.11`	`onetwo`	`though`
`23:02.11`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`23:02.12`	`Tordy`	`mincreaft links`
`23:03.40`	`rrowland`	`I wish I could attribute it to activision`
`23:03.47`	`rrowland`	`But in reality I know that's not the reason`
`23:04.07`	`rrowland`	`I'm just going to have to start my own gaming company`
`23:04.23`	`onetwo`	`its the best way to go`
`23:04.30`	`onetwo`	`cause if you know yuo can love something`
`23:04.31`	`onetwo`	`and do it well`
`23:04.32`	`onetwo`	`do it`
`23:04.37`	`onetwo`	`rather than fight to convince someone else`
`23:04.39`	`Saeris`	`well don't forget all the friends you made here that are looking for jobs =P`
`23:04.58`	`OdenTheMage`	`twobit: you there?`
`23:05.06`	`twobit`	`yes oden whats up`
`23:05.16`	`rrowland`	`10 man team working for 3 years is what? 2 million dollars?`
`23:05.22`	`rrowland`	`Sadly I don't have that money`
`23:05.36`	`OdenTheMage`	`Want to help with an RPG map on US server we need one more tester for?`
`23:06.13`	`Saeris`	`gotta find yourself investors`
`23:06.16`	`Saeris`	`see`
`23:06.20`	`rrowland`	`Maybe I can bring the asshole who made minecraft in`
`23:06.22`	`rrowland`	`As an investor`
`23:06.25`	`Saeris`	`either you convince a company to hire you`
`23:06.31`	`Saeris`	`or convince investors to invest in you`
`23:06.32`	`Saeris`	`lol`
`23:06.46`	`onetwo`	`owing money is a scary feeling though`
`23:07.20`	`rrowland`	`An investment isnt a loan`
`23:07.25`	`rrowland`	`If you fail you don't owe shit`
`23:07.29`	`rrowland`	`That's the beauty of it`
`23:08.00`	`Saeris`	`you just now have an investor who'll slander you forever and a bad reputation as a failed company`
`23:08.01`	`onetwo`	`ah`
`23:08.21`	`Saeris`	`so yea, no financial hit, just a reputation hit`
`23:08.48`	`Saeris`	`some can argue what's more valuable`
`23:08.49`	`Saeris`	`lol`
`23:09.42`	`Saeris`	`probably one of the reasons why Flagship Studios went out of business right after Hellgate: London launched`
`23:09.51`	`Saeris`	`game was looking great, turned out to be total shit`
`23:09.56`	`Saeris`	`tanked the company`
`23:10.21`	`Saeris`	`now they've sorta reformed in to runic games and they're making torchlight`
`23:10.31`	`Saeris`	`which is fairing much better, fortunately`
`23:10.44`	`EternalWraith`	`HellGate London had so much potential though..`
`23:10.53`	`Saeris`	`oh yea, i agree`
`23:10.54`	`Saeris`	`i mean`
`23:11.01`	`Saeris`	`i didn't buy the collector's edition for nothing`
`23:11.05`	`Saeris`	`but oh do i regret that now`
`23:12.19`	`onetwo`	`the whole idea of the same terrain over and over (a burning london) just wasnt appealing`
`23:12.21`	`Ousnius`	`does that look good?`
`23:12.21`	`Ousnius`	`http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3254/sc22010101000523435.png`
`23:13.04`	`Tordy`	`wassp`
`23:13.24`	`rrowland`	`I'd work on torchlight`
`23:13.25`	`rrowland`	`Fun game`
`23:13.27`	`Saeris`	`i think it was more that the servers sucked and the game was extremely buggy`
`23:13.40`	`Tordy`	`Ousnius: i dont like the gradient on the Select your race`
`23:13.41`	`Tordy`	`>_>`
`23:13.44`	`Saeris`	`torchlight 2 is comming out soon`
`23:13.47`	`Tordy`	`make it white or something`
`23:13.49`	`Tordy`	`:]`
`23:13.56`	`Saeris`	`and eventually torchlight is gonna be an MMO`
`23:14.00`	`Tordy`	`hi Ousnius`
`23:14.00`	`Ousnius`	`thought it would fit the buttons :P`
`23:14.01`	`Tordy`	`hi!`
`23:14.02`	`Ousnius`	`but okay`
`23:14.04`	`Saeris`	`or so they've planned`
`23:14.04`	`Tordy`	`:]`
`23:14.07`	`Ousnius`	`H FUCKING I`
`23:14.08`	`Ousnius`	`xD`
`23:14.31`	`Otixa`	`Muddafookas`
`23:14.42`	`Tordy`	`hi Otixa and Ousnius, my twins`
`23:14.54`	`Saeris`	`they've also got a neato map editor for the game, which allows for a lot of mods`
`23:14.55`	`slightlyrandom`	`Torchlight: Best value for money game since Portal`
`23:14.56`	`Saeris`	`but`
`23:14.59`	`Saeris`	`it's terribly hard to use`
`23:15.04`	`Tordy`	`what map editor`
`23:15.05`	`Saeris`	`way worse than galaxy imo`
`23:15.05`	`rrowland`	`Yeah I'd work on it`
`23:15.09`	`Tordy`	`did they change something?\`
`23:15.15`	`Otixa`	`punches Saeris`
`23:15.28`	`Tordy`	`Otixa what map is that`
`23:15.29`	`Saeris`	`y4 otixa?`
`23:15.33`	`rrowland`	`Someone just invest in my new company`
`23:15.34`	`Tordy`	`i mean Ousnius`
`23:15.36`	`Tordy`	`doh`
`23:15.38`	`Otixa`	`Because I can`
`23:15.42`	`Saeris`	`fine =P`
`23:15.44`	`Otixa`	`Tordy, wut?`
`23:15.49`	`Ousnius`	`the UI?`
`23:15.54`	`Tordy`	`yea that one`
`23:15.58`	`Ousnius`	`shrink TD`
`23:16.09`	`Tordy`	`oh gosh :3`
`23:16.27`	`Saeris`	`rrowland pitch me your game then we'll talk =P`
`23:16.29`	`Ousnius`	`whut?^^`
`23:16.37`	`slightlyrandom`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:16.47`	`Ousnius`	`xD`
`23:17.05`	`slightlyrandom`	`People tend to take the laze/easy/boring route`
`23:17.13`	`onetwo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:17.15`	`progammer`	`blizzard is trying to piss everyone off by sending the Blizz Insider #34 newsletter to my email`
`23:17.18`	`onetwo`	`dude its such a pain dealing with mazing`
`23:17.30`	`Ousnius`	`playing it or mapping it?`
`23:17.30`	`slightlyrandom`	`hehe`
`23:17.35`	`onetwo`	`mapping it`
`23:17.38`	`Ousnius`	`mh`
`23:17.41`	`Ousnius`	`I think it's easy`
`23:17.42`	`slightlyrandom`	`It really is`
`23:17.45`	`onetwo`	`im releasing a tutorial in a few days that shows how i did antiblock and footprints`
`23:17.46`	`onetwo`	`in my TD`
`23:17.49`	`rrowland`	`I'm assuming you don't have the funds to cover the costs of producing my game`
`23:18.01`	`Saeris`	`yea i needa start thinking about anti-block`
`23:18.01`	`onetwo`	`people found shit when my map got more poular`
`23:18.03`	`progammer`	`onetwo: dont forget the pathing lights, i like that`
`23:18.06`	`Saeris`	`i mean`
`23:18.06`	`onetwo`	`youre free to use mine`
`23:18.14`	`Ousnius`	`I did jsut add footprints to my towers + radius`
`23:18.19`	`Saeris`	`my map allows for multiple paths to the target goal`
`23:18.21`	`onetwo`	`use doodad footprints`
`23:18.25`	`onetwo`	`theyre perfectly square`
`23:18.27`	`Tordy`	`two things`
`23:18.28`	`Tordy`	`froze`
`23:18.28`	`Ousnius`	`and I reset the move order every 1 sec`
`23:18.29`	`Tordy`	`at the same`
`23:18.30`	`Tordy`	`time`
`23:18.31`	`Tordy`	`freakin`
`23:19.14`	`Tordy`	`turning off mouse accel is weird`
`23:19.25`	`slightlyrandom`	`I reset move order on tower death`
`23:20.03`	`twobit`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:20.09`	`Ousnius`	`and whats with tower build?`
`23:20.39`	`slightlyrandom`	`Nothin'. Crude system, mobs default to aggresive if they can't reach their destination`
`23:21.05`	`Ousnius`	`in my map they attacked new towers cause tehy thought they block the old way`
`23:21.11`	`Ousnius`	`then I added move refresh :P`
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`23:22.30`	`onetwo`	`my antiblock prevents you from blocking`
`23:22.31`	`onetwo`	`before you build`
`23:22.37`	`onetwo`	`youre welcome to use it :D`
`23:22.53`	`slightlyrandom`	`How dynamic is it?`
`23:22.55`	`Ousnius`	`BEFORE you build? o.O`
`23:23.08`	`progammer`	`its like you cant place it down`
`23:23.20`	`Ousnius`	`so it adds invisible blockers?`
`23:23.21`	`slightlyrandom`	`Can you use it on stuff more advanced than a single path between two walls ?`
`23:23.46`	`Ousnius`	`yea my TD has no pathes :P`
`23:23.56`	`Ousnius`	`it's one big []`
`23:24.07`	`slightlyrandom`	`That's a single path between two walls, effectively`
`23:24.08`	`Ousnius`	`[] = square`
`23:24.33`	`Ousnius`	`_`
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`23:24.37`	`Ousnius`	`xD`
`23:24.38`	`Ousnius`	`damn`
`23:24.44`	`Ousnius`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:24.46`	`Ousnius`	`\|_\|`
`23:24.47`	`Ousnius`	`!`
`23:25.34`	`Tehwildcard`	`fail`
`23:26.12`	`CH\|_`	`O.o restarted editor and now my colors are messed, makes my water look bad too`
`23:26.19`	`Ousnius`	`xD`
`23:26.29`	`Ousnius`	`colors?`
`23:26.31`	`Ousnius`	`which colors?`
`23:26.34`	`CH\|_`	`all of them`
`23:26.41`	`Ousnius`	`you mean lighting?`
`23:26.56`	`CH\|_`	`nah`
`23:27.24`	`Ousnius`	`maybe you changed shader settings in View ->`
`23:27.24`	`Ousnius`	`xD`
`23:27.36`	`Tehwildcard`	`yeah was about to say`
`23:27.43`	`CH\|_`	`nope`
`23:27.51`	`Tehwildcard`	`did you lock to game view settings?`
`23:27.58`	`Tehwildcard`	`and have your game settings as low?`
`23:28.08`	`CH\|_`	`says i have shadows disabled but i checked and they are enabled`
`23:28.27`	`Tehwildcard`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:29.06`	`CH\|_`	`settings are ultra/high`
`23:29.30`	`Ousnius`	`try restarting it again :P`
`23:29.32`	`Tehwildcard`	`Just restart editor`
`23:29.35`	`Ousnius`	`and look at other maps`
`23:29.35`	`onetwo`	`oh sorry was afk`
`23:29.40`	`onetwo`	`it detects when construction starts`
`23:29.44`	`onetwo`	`checks pathing between 2 points`
`23:29.49`	`onetwo`	`if its 65536`
`23:29.53`	`onetwo`	`remove your building unit`
`23:29.54`	`onetwo`	`and refund`
`23:30.04`	`Ousnius`	`65536? oO`
`23:30.17`	`Dryeyece`	`OMFG I just found out Nova comes with a Lightsaber Animation!!`
`23:30.26`	`Ousnius`	`o.O`
`23:30.45`	`Tehwildcard`	`lol`
`23:30.56`	`Dryeyece`	`TY Blizzard!`
`23:31.03`	`onetwo`	`it means its not possible`
`23:31.06`	`onetwo`	`if it returns 65536`
`23:31.29`	`Ousnius`	`so it will work for a big square with 4 spawns and one target point?`
`23:32.28`	`onetwo`	`well im not too sure what your map is`
`23:32.39`	`onetwo`	`but youd just have to check whenever someone builds a tower`
`23:32.47`	`onetwo`	`for each pathing cost between point 01 and target`
`23:32.50`	`onetwo`	`point 02 and target`
`23:32.51`	`onetwo`	`point 03 and target`
`23:32.54`	`onetwo`	`point 04 and target`
`23:32.59`	`onetwo`	`make sure they all dont return 65536`
`23:33.05`	`onetwo`	`and if any do`
`23:33.09`	`onetwo`	`remove the building unit`
`23:33.17`	`onetwo`	`you can open my map if you go file open`
`23:33.19`	`onetwo`	`battle.net tab`
`23:33.22`	`onetwo`	`and see anti block trigger`
`23:34.26`	`Ousnius`	`EU or US?`
`23:34.42`	`onetwo`	`us and eu`
`23:34.50`	`Ousnius`	`mh cant find it`
`23:35.36`	`onetwo`	`onetwo's td ?`
`23:35.39`	`onetwo`	`hmm`
`23:35.49`	`onetwo`	`are you eU?`
`23:36.45`	`CH\|_`	`restarting doesnt help :(`
`23:37.08`	`CH\|_`	`not just the textures the whole editor looks wierd`
`23:37.13`	`Ousnius`	`y`
`23:37.39`	`Ousnius`	`CH\|_ maybe your graphics card expldoed xD`
`23:38.07`	`Ousnius`	`onetwo I got disconencted from b.net i neditor`
`23:38.14`	`Ousnius`	`"cause of flooding" wtf?`
`23:38.29`	`Ousnius`	`only thign I did was login`
`23:39.57`	`onetwo`	`rofl`
`23:39.58`	`onetwo`	`wtf`
`23:40.02`	`onetwo`	`are you on EU or US/`
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`23:41.18`	`twobit`	`if anyone needs help im US`
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`23:43.47`	`WAR`	`I WANT YOUR LOVE AND I WANT YOUR REVENGE`
`23:43.51`	`WAR`	`YOU AND ME COULD WRITE A BAD ROMANCE`
`23:44.18`	`onetwo`	`gansta 4 life WAR`
`23:45.22`	`WAR`	`Fuck it time to listen to real music`
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`23:45.35`	`WAR`	`My pokemon map is awesome`
`23:45.36`	`WAR`	`ok`
`23:46.34`	`WAR`	`I CHOOSE YOU NYDUS WORM`
`23:46.37`	`WAR`	`BLARGHGHGH!`
`23:46.41`	`Ousnius`	`XDDDD`
`23:47.16`	`Ousnius`	`onetwo EU...`
`23:47.26`	`onetwo`	`oh`
`23:47.28`	`onetwo`	`eu search doesnt work`
`23:47.30`	`onetwo`	`i think`
`23:47.32`	`Ousnius`	`-.-`
`23:47.35`	`onetwo`	`but onetwo's TD should be on popular list`
`23:47.37`	`onetwo`	`under vjeux`
`23:47.40`	`Ousnius`	`y`
`23:47.50`	`Ousnius`	`but I can't even login xD`
`23:48.01`	`Ousnius`	`it disconnects me cause of flooding -.-`
`23:48.19`	`WAR`	`NYDUS WORM RETRIEVE!`
`23:48.29`	`WAR`	`I SUMMON PIKALISK!`
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`23:48.51`	`onetwo`	`http://www.mediafire.com/?v8emi6k13lvmu5d`
`23:48.52`	`onetwo`	`there`
`23:49.26`	`Ousnius`	`thx`
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`23:52.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`That blinking line spazzes out quite a bit`
`23:52.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`How'd you manage those textures below your towers?`
`23:52.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`decals or splats I'd guess`
`23:53.18`	`onetwo`	`open the map`
`23:53.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`Just wondering what textures it is`
`23:53.28`	`onetwo`	`its the "Drink Splat" actor working with "Building Splat" model`
`23:53.33`	`onetwo`	`which is a model i copied terran tarmac`
`23:53.36`	`onetwo`	`and just set it to terran tarmac 01`
`23:53.39`	`onetwo`	`with no variations`
`23:53.42`	`onetwo`	`then scaled it`
`23:54.38`	`onetwo`	`unit has to have facing angle of 0.000 too`
`23:54.59`	`slightlyrandom`	`I really like that path line`
`23:55.12`	`slightlyrandom`	`Updates a bit too often for my liking, but it's quite awesome`
`23:57.06`	`onetwo`	`cool :D`
`23:57.30`	`twobit`	`i think i just sharted.`
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`23:58.31`	`Otixa`	`Polo`

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