IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20101003

`00:00.11`	`wOlfLinG`	`Oh, i loved that stuff`
`00:00.19`	`Ousnius`	`<3`
`00:00.24`	`wOlfLinG`	`I liked the multiplayer voice commands`
`00:00.26`	`Demonette`	`lol`
`00:00.29`	`HeyRevolver`	`age of empires.. more like... age of.. of.. flimpowers`
`00:00.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`14`
`00:00.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`14`
`00:00.35`	`Enofel`	`11, 1`
`00:00.39`	`Enofel`	`24`
`00:00.42`	`Enofel`	`12`
`00:00.42`	`wOlfLinG`	`Like 8 would say something like 'Nice base. I'll take it!'`
`00:00.44`	`Ousnius`	`aoe 2 was the first game I played LAN with my father lawl`
`00:00.54`	`Enofel`	`wolf dat was da 22`
`00:00.56`	`Zoxc`	`how do you turn this on = awesome`
`00:01.04`	`wOlfLinG`	`Yeah, i can't remember them all xD`
`00:01.07`	`Enofel`	`18`
`00:01.14`	`Enofel`	`30`
`00:01.14`	`wOlfLinG`	`I just remember that 8 was my favourite i think`
`00:01.15`	`HeyRevolver`	`420`
`00:01.43`	`Enofel`	`ya sure? thats like build extra villies or somethin`
`00:01.52`	`wOlfLinG`	`ah, maybe not then :/`
`00:01.59`	`Rodrigo`	`HP is asking the most stupid questions ever`
`00:02.01`	`Enofel`	`=P course everyone knows what building villies means`
`00:02.06`	`wOlfLinG`	`My bro used to spam 'Start the game already!' over and over again -.-`
`00:02.11`	`Enofel`	`14`
`00:02.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I already did that`
`00:02.16`	`wOlfLinG`	`ya, that`
`00:02.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`psh`
`00:02.18`	`Rodrigo`	`in other words: It's just you dont use more than 6% of your CPU speed, and you will be fine`
`00:02.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`poser`
`00:02.24`	`Enofel`	`12`
`00:02.28`	`Enofel`	`12`
`00:02.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`2`
`00:02.37`	`Enofel`	`12) Ack, Be rushed`
`00:02.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Being`
`00:02.49`	`Rodrigo`	`OPS!`
`00:02.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`possibly Bein'`
`00:02.52`	`Rodrigo`	`HP REMOTE CONTROL`
`00:02.56`	`Enofel`	`18) Monk, moonk, I need a mooonk`
`00:02.56`	`Rodrigo`	`I have to close this window!`
`00:02.57`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Phaos (~Rorax@60-234-224-240.bitstream.orcon.net.nz)`
`00:03.00`	`Rodrigo`	`bye bye`
`00:03.07`	`Demonette`	`well cya guys`
`00:03.10`	`Enofel`	`24) Dad Gun`
`00:03.17`	`wOlfLinG`	`loved 18 :D`
`00:03.24`	`Enofel`	`30) Rogan`
`00:03.26`	`wOlfLinG`	`Thats was the one i was thinking of`
`00:03.29`	`wOlfLinG`	`Not 8 xD`
`00:03.35`	`Ousnius`	`omg`
`00:03.40`	`EternalWraith`	`The voices all sounded gay to be honest.`
`00:03.41`	`Ousnius`	`I think I'm gonna sleep to`
`00:03.41`	`Enofel`	`31) Enemy`
`00:03.53`	`Enofel`	`41*`
`00:04.08`	`Ousnius`	`dreaming about an awesome map XD`
`00:04.24`	`Ousnius`	`bye^^`
`00:04.42`	`Enofel`	`I needa figure how to make all upgrades n shit cost lower dependent on a random variable`
`00:04.55`	`Enofel`	`by .75`
`00:04.57`	`wOlfLinG`	`So... My RPG has a menu, yet absolutly no heroes or quests or any kind of content yet xD`
`00:05.22`	`Enofel`	`Make a hero =D`
`00:05.27`	`wOlfLinG`	`Soon`
`00:05.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`heroes are for losers`
`00:05.36`	`wOlfLinG`	`I'm making most triggers first`
`00:05.41`	`wOlfLinG`	`Then the heroes and abilitys`
`00:05.50`	`wOlfLinG`	`Then making the triggers fit it properly`
`00:05.54`	`wOlfLinG`	`Then finally, terrain`
`00:06.00`	`Enofel`	`tbh alot of stuff i used to use triggers for i do in data editor now`
`00:06.12`	`wOlfLinG`	`Also, my RPG will have no classes`
`00:06.16`	`wOlfLinG`	`Just races`
`00:06.26`	`wOlfLinG`	`Ie. Murloc, Tauren, Human etc`
`00:06.30`	`wOlfLinG`	`But differant names`
`00:07.48`	`Enofel`	`Prozaic, is there a way to use data editor to affect all upgrade or atleast specific upgrade costs for a player? and to affect the upgrade of an upgrade?`
`00:08.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So you want to have an upgrade reduce the cost of ther upgrades`
`00:08.10`	`Enofel`	`or anyone else thats data editor savvy`
`00:08.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and another to change the actual upgrades?`
`00:08.30`	`Enofel`	`yep`
`00:09.19`	`Enofel`	`Iv got an upgrade opened up to an abilties upgrades, and im staring at cost but it wont let me multiply by .75 or divide by 1.25`
`00:09.44`	`Enofel`	`nor can I access the upgrades itself which increases the cost of hte upgrade`
`00:09.48`	`wOlfLinG`	`I'm sure you can change stuff in 'costs'`
`00:10.22`	`Enofel`	`I'm thinking that using an upgrade to upgrade an upgrade isnt really going to work for what I'm doing (IE changing costs to 75%)`
`00:10.50`	`Enofel`	`Wolf, the problem is mainly that, the upgrade increases in cost (1 or 2 depending)`
`00:11.00`	`Enofel`	`per upgrade bought`
`00:11.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Technology Resrouce Cost`
`00:11.08`	`wOlfLinG`	`You could always create differant upgrades`
`00:11.11`	`wOlfLinG`	`That do the same thing`
`00:11.15`	`wOlfLinG`	`But with differant costs`
`00:11.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You have Info, Alert, Button tab, Charge tab, Cooldown tab and then cost fields`
`00:11.53`	`Enofel`	`is it possible to have alternative upgrades on a single unit? on same place`
`00:12.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`That's how you would change the cost`
`00:12.17`	`Enofel`	`prozaic, im at that, but its not what i need`
`00:12.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`How so?`
`00:12.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You want to change the price, yes?`
`00:12.40`	`Enofel`	`to 75% of original`
`00:12.52`	`Enofel`	`but cant multiply but that nor divide`
`00:12.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`then do the math and set the new value to the 75%`
`00:13.05`	`Enofel`	`I can set it to 16 or w/e`
`00:13.12`	`Enofel`	`but the increase of cost will stay at 1`
`00:13.26`	`Enofel`	`in which, even 3 upgrades it needs to be one cheaper`
`00:13.29`	`Enofel`	`every*`
`00:13.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`oh, so this is a multi-level upgrade and you want to change how the cost scales?`
`00:13.41`	`Enofel`	`purty much`
`00:13.52`	`HeyRevolver`	`damn I wish Tordey was here I have questions about minecraft`
`00:14.00`	`HeyRevolver`	`anyone else play it?`
`00:14.15`	`Enofel`	`wolfing suggested making a entire new set of upgrades`
`00:14.19`	`wOlfLinG`	`i do HR`
`00:14.36`	`wOlfLinG`	`Yeah, would take some work to set up the requirements etc`
`00:14.45`	`wOlfLinG`	`but would work as you want`
`00:14.47`	`Enofel`	`(i cringe at that bc I have each upgrade upgrading the cost of itself and two others)`
`00:15.11`	`Enofel`	`but I dont know how to`
`00:15.18`	`Enofel`	`have more than one upgrade for a unit`
`00:15.20`	`Enofel`	`in the same place`
`00:15.26`	`Enofel`	`to be changed by triggers`
`00:15.34`	`wOlfLinG`	`So Enofel: Try making say 3 or so requirements with 'Show' and 'Use' as differant upgrades`
`00:15.36`	`Enofel`	`(or possible a triggered upgrade?)`
`00:15.44`	`wOlfLinG`	`Then add them all to the command card etc`
`00:16.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Well how many levels do you have for this particular upgrade?`
`00:16.09`	`Enofel`	`req?`
`00:16.13`	`wOlfLinG`	`Enofel: it can be done in the data editor`
`00:16.17`	`Enofel`	`100 ea`
`00:16.50`	`wOlfLinG`	`Create a requirement that has the need of one of the previous upgrades completed`
`00:16.50`	`Enofel`	`they are all three connected, you buy one, price of other two rise as well`
`00:17.09`	`wOlfLinG`	`And that hides it when done etc`
`00:17.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I think if you want to do %'s you need triggers`
`00:17.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`but static values you can do with upgrades`
`00:17.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`in terms of the cost`
`00:17.42`	`Enofel`	`wofling, I followed tut and have something like that but can i use the show to hide it dependent on a varriable? or the reasearch of something`
`00:17.44`	`wOlfLinG`	`So you purchase Upgrade1-1, upgrades 2-1 and 3-1 can't be bought, but 1-2, 2-2 and 3-2 can`
`00:18.06`	`wOlfLinG`	`Put the var on the show one to make it hide etc`
`00:18.14`	`wOlfLinG`	`until you get the needed tech`
`00:18.15`	`Enofel`	`Proz, I could do the entire thing in a somehwat messy set of triggers, but the "Unit uses ability" is glitched as it fires twice`
`00:18.42`	`Enofel`	`W0lf, it isnt gonna be a buyout, then on to next upgrade`
`00:19.03`	`Enofel`	`its a "Choose Option A for everything 25% cheaper) or option be for something else`
`00:19.55`	`Enofel`	`(This will be at beggining of game so no need to worry about level of upgrade when that is chosen( which itself would be an entire new headahce))`
`00:20.36`	`Enofel`	`I'm gonna try and mess around with requirements to see what all it works out to be`
`00:20.46`	`Enofel`	`cept iv never used requirements b4`
`00:31.22`	`HeyRevolver`	`You don't have to come, and confess. We lookin' for you. We gon' fiiind you, we gon fiiind you. So you can run and tell that run and tell that run tell that homeboy home home hooomeboy`
`00:33.09`	`HeyRevolver`	`Don't hassle The Hoff.`
`00:34.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster P_R_Deltoid (~P_R_Dontk@c-76-20-43-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`00:34.52`	`Enofel`	`whats a "modulus" in requirements? Is there a tutorial for requirements anyone know of?`
`00:35.46`	`wOlfLinG`	`modulus is basically remainders`
`00:35.57`	`wOlfLinG`	`ie 5 mod 2 is 1`
`00:36.12`	`wOlfLinG`	`cause 5 goes into 2 twice with 1 left over`
`00:36.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`5 doesn't go into 2`
`00:39.35`	`Enofel`	`requirements has alot of room for mistakes i think`
`00:40.55`	`Enofel`	`any suggestions on how I could set a requirement to become hidden? and another one to become shown using something from triggers`
`00:41.02`	`wOlfLinG`	`you know what i meant proz -.-`
`00:41.20`	`Enofel`	`modulus=mod=%`
`00:42.10`	`Otixa`	`your face=urface=._.`
`00:42.30`	`Otixa`	`punches ProzaicMuze`
`00:42.31`	`Otixa`	`;D`
`00:43.10`	`Enofel`	`possible make a dummy upgrade that I can punch?`
`00:44.08`	`Otixa`	`Make a cake`
`00:44.15`	`Otixa`	`Speaking of which`
`00:44.22`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, you promised me torte >:[`
`00:45.06`	`Enofel`	`Well, I can make one to show when the upgrade is researched but how to make it disapeaR?`
`00:45.21`	`Enofel`	`I absolutely know its possible to do that`
`00:45.25`	`Enofel`	`but iv got no clue how`
`00:45.29`	`Otixa`	`Just eat the cake`
`00:45.32`	`Otixa`	`And it disappears`
`00:45.37`	`Enofel`	`(Dont move your thor does that)`
`00:45.46`	`Enofel`	`Otixa.`
`00:45.48`	`Enofel`	`The cake`
`00:45.50`	`Enofel`	`is`
`00:45.50`	`Enofel`	`a`
`00:45.52`	`Enofel`	`LIE`
`00:45.58`	`Otixa`	`punches Enofel`
`00:46.00`	`Otixa`	`No.`
`00:46.13`	`Enofel`	`all ur base is mine`
`00:46.23`	`wOlfLinG`	`punches Otixa`
`00:46.29`	`Otixa`	`evades`
`00:46.34`	`Otixa`	`beats the shit out of wOlfLinG`
`00:46.37`	`wOlfLinG`	`blocks`
`00:46.42`	`Arthas-`	`~seen Helral`
`00:46.49`	`purl`	`helral <~BenZegvel@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 1h 37m 7s ago, saying: 'anyways nn all ;p'.`
`00:46.55`	`Enofel`	`cases Otixa to lose the Game.`
`00:46.59`	`Enofel`	`causes*`
`00:47.04`	`wOlfLinG`	`GODDAMMIT ENOFEL!`
`00:47.11`	`Enofel`	`.me runs`
`00:47.12`	`wOlfLinG`	`Also, Squirrels`
`00:47.14`	`Enofel`	`runs`
`00:47.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Otixa has a tiny penis`
`00:47.27`	`Otixa`	`bans everyone from the forums`
`00:47.30`	`wOlfLinG`	`Now whenever someone says 'Squirrels' you shall lose the game!`
`00:47.41`	`Otixa`	`bans ProzaicMuze first`
`00:47.44`	`Arthas-`	`~seen Helral\|work`
`00:47.45`	`purl`	`helral\|work <~BenZegvel@84-245-39-192.dsl.cambrium.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 15h 8m 35s ago, saying: 'ah.'.`
`00:47.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`can't be banned`
`00:47.48`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`00:48.01`	`Arthas-`	`is sc2mapsterkitten dead :<`
`00:48.04`	`Enofel`	`wonders how to get inverse relations to possible hide an upgrade of useless utilities`
`00:48.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`nope`
`00:48.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`he's just busy`
`00:48.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`he was on yesterday`
`00:48.16`	`Arthas-`	`ah`
`00:48.26`	`wOlfLinG`	`~seen Helral\|Sleep`
`00:48.26`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'helral\|sleep', wOlfLinG`
`00:48.29`	`wOlfLinG`	`:/`
`00:48.34`	`Arthas-`	`thanks proz`
`00:48.36`	`wOlfLinG`	`~seen Helral\|AFK`
`00:48.36`	`purl`	`helral\|afk <~BenZegvel@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 57d 10h 7m 39s ago, saying: 'gonna look for a new bulp. my lamp just quit with it XD'.`
`00:48.53`	`wOlfLinG`	`57 days ago O_o`
`00:48.54`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Rodrigo (464f4549@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.79.69.73)`
`00:49.09`	`wOlfLinG`	`Heya mr. laptop freeze :P`
`00:49.12`	`Enofel`	`guess that search for a bulb got him eaten`
`00:49.27`	`Enofel`	`or must be one epic bulb search`
`00:49.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~seen Helral`
`00:49.29`	`purl`	`helral <~BenZegvel@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 1h 39m 47s ago, saying: 'anyways nn all ;p'.`
`00:49.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~Helral\|busy`
`00:49.47`	`Otixa`	`Enofel, if you have say... upgrades where every 3rd one is useless, you can modulate by 3 and where index%3=0 you remove`
`00:49.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~seen Helral\|busy`
`00:49.49`	`purl`	`helral\|busy <~BenZegvel@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 133d 24m 28s ago, saying: 'what is it then Blayzin, maybe we can help somehow....'.`
`00:49.50`	`Otixa`	`Badum-tish`
`00:49.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~seen Helral\|sleep`
`00:49.56`	`purl`	`ProzaicMuze: i haven't seen 'helral\|sleep'`
`00:50.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~Seen helral\|away`
`00:50.06`	`purl`	`helral\|away <~BenZegvel@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 39d 13h 15m 36s ago, saying: 'I'll be back later'.`
`00:50.06`	`Otixa`	`Hmm`
`00:50.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`gah`
`00:50.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`too many helral's`
`00:50.16`	`Otixa`	`133d 24m 28s ago`
`00:50.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`helrals`
`00:50.22`	`Otixa`	`Almost 1337 ;o`
`00:50.37`	`wOlfLinG`	`~seen ME!`
`00:50.38`	`purl`	`wOlfLinG: i haven't seen 'me!'`
`00:50.38`	`Otixa`	`Kinda like 1337 anyway`
`00:50.42`	`wOlfLinG`	`:(`
`00:51.01`	`Enofel`	`seen enofel
`00:51.15`	`Enofel`	`is purl a bot?`
`00:51.39`	`Enofel`	`~seen enofel`
`00:51.39`	`purl`	`enofel is currently on #sc2mapster (2h 10m 54s). Has said a total of 131 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen enofel'.`
`00:51.52`	`Enofel`	`guessing so`
`00:52.07`	`Enofel`	`but that would be funny if the last said thing activated itself`
`00:52.21`	`Enofel`	`~seen noob`
`00:52.21`	`purl`	`noob <42c20f42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.194.15.66> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 46d 5h 6m 1s ago, saying: '== noob has changed usernames to AZWebnut so that he can carry this around with him on his phone as he does tech support away from his console... would love to find out the answer to that save file question tho...'.`
`00:52.24`	`*** join/#sc2mapster TeddyTeddy (Teddy@adsl-75-26-184-174.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net)`
`00:52.39`	`Enofel`	`~seen sc2mapster`
`00:52.40`	`purl`	`sc2mapster <~shaki@49-42-141.wireless.iaw.on.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 147d 23h 45m 25s ago, saying: 'yaaaaaaaaaaaay'.`
`00:52.50`	`Enofel`	`~seen random`
`00:52.50`	`purl`	`zuckusfill <n=allen@c-98-202-188-253.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-us-ut, 720d 23h 42m 57s ago, saying: 'ok'.`
`00:52.57`	`Enofel`	`720 days`
`00:53.16`	`Enofel`	`~seen me`
`00:53.16`	`purl`	`me <c419fd0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.25.253.13> was last seen on IRC in channel #fudforum, 21d 15h 4m 53s ago, saying: 'Hi'.`
`00:53.24`	`Enofel`	`~seen big`
`00:53.24`	`purl`	`big <i=big@Stable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 289d 22h 48m 2s ago, saying: 'hey all, anybody knows how to add 'AddHandler' to make .jsf files works as .jsp? like using .htaccess or so ?'.`
`00:53.39`	`Enofel`	`~seen lame`
`00:53.39`	`purl`	`Enofel: i haven't seen 'lame'`
`00:53.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~seen yomudda`
`00:53.46`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'yomudda', ProzaicMuze`
`00:53.49`	`Enofel`	`~seen purl`
`00:53.50`	`purl`	`purl is currently on #casualti (16d 13h 55m 19s) #botpark (16d 13h 55m 19s) #linuxfund (16d 13h 55m 19s) #waruidev (16d 13h 55m 19s) #how (16d 13h 55m 19s) #sc2mapster (16d 13h 55m 19s) #edev (16d 13h 55m 19s) #fossfund (16d 13h 55m 19s) #hosernet (16d 13h 55m 19s) #norganna (16d 13h 55m 19s) #ud (16d 13h 55m 19s) ##ducleague (16d 13h 55m 19s) ##kierra ...`
`00:54.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`holy crap`
`00:54.15`	`Enofel`	`~seen muze`
`00:54.15`	`purl`	`Enofel: i haven't seen 'muze'`
`00:54.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`how many channels is purl in!?`
`00:54.26`	`Enofel`	`~seen purl`
`00:54.26`	`purl`	`purl is currently on #casualti (16d 13h 55m 55s) #botpark (16d 13h 55m 55s) #linuxfund (16d 13h 55m 55s) #waruidev (16d 13h 55m 55s) #how (16d 13h 55m 55s) #sc2mapster (16d 13h 55m 55s) #edev (16d 13h 55m 55s) #fossfund (16d 13h 55m 55s) #hosernet (16d 13h 55m 55s) #norganna (16d 13h 55m 55s) #ud (16d 13h 55m 55s) ##ducleague (16d 13h 55m 55s) ##kierra ...`
`00:54.33`	`Enofel`	`a ton`
`00:54.40`	`Enofel`	`~seen hard`
`00:54.40`	`purl`	`Enofel: i haven't seen 'hard'`
`00:54.48`	`Enofel`	`~seen fail`
`00:54.48`	`purl`	`Enofel: i haven't seen 'fail'`
`00:54.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~seen a vagina`
`00:54.53`	`purl`	`ProzaicMuze: i haven't seen 'a vagina'`
`00:54.53`	`Enofel`	`~seen help`
`00:54.54`	`purl`	`help <d915e8ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.21.232.237> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 86d 12h 42m 37s ago, saying: 'hey, I followed some direction on the maemo forum for an out of space message I was getting saying I couldnt store incoming text messages'.`
`00:55.01`	`Enofel`	`~seen random`
`00:55.01`	`purl`	`micze <~micze@81-237-239-229-no133.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 237d 9h 37m 23s ago, saying: 'Did i say that i love my n900, if any developer is around. nice work!'.`
`00:55.12`	`Enofel`	`~seen random`
`00:55.12`	`purl`	`skulllock <i=Skullloc@lkf-241-5-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #, 716d 5h 6m 46s ago, saying: 'and arrogant too'.`
`00:55.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`almost 3 years ago lol`
`00:55.38`	`Enofel`	`~seen prozaicmuze`
`00:55.38`	`purl`	`prozaicmuze is currently on #sc2mapster (5h 45m 7s). Has said a total of 377 messages. Is idling for 7s, last said: 'almost 3 years ago lol'.`
`00:55.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~seen Enofel`
`00:55.54`	`purl`	`enofel is currently on #sc2mapster (2h 15m 9s). Has said a total of 151 messages. Is idling for 16s, last said: '~seen prozaicmuze'.`
`00:55.56`	`Enofel`	`theres was a random one ealire sitting at 720`
`00:55.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I own your messages`
`00:56.06`	`Enofel`	`~seen micky`
`00:56.07`	`purl`	`micky is currently on #sc2mapster (14h 6m 48s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 13h 58m 45s, last said: 'most of you have seen the Raynor sniper model, while having the railgun snipe ability ready for target the snipe beam follows the mouse cursor, somehow that behaviour could be replecated to start moving the unit in the direction of the caster point'.`
`00:56.14`	`Enofel`	`~seen orc`
`00:56.15`	`purl`	`orc is currently on #sc2mapster (3d 17h 10m 53s). Has said a total of 73 messages. Is idling for 1d 2h 19m 20s, last said: 'Why are people so bad at Survivro vs Swarm :/'.`
`00:56.28`	`Enofel`	`~seen liq3`
`00:56.29`	`purl`	`liq3 is currently on #sc2mapster (4h 47m 2s), last said: 'Also WHY in gods name is there so many different areas for the units and shit? So unneedingly complex .-.-'.`
`00:56.36`	`Enofel`	`^`
`00:56.44`	`Enofel`	`~seen phaos`
`00:56.44`	`purl`	`phaos is currently on #sc2mapster (53m 47s), last said: 'your smash tv intro is awesome'.`
`00:56.52`	`liq3`	`4h ago? wut?`
`00:56.58`	`liq3`	`i havet's naid anything in here for DAYS`
`00:57.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`idler`
`00:57.06`	`Enofel`	`uv been on 4 days`
`00:57.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`gtfo!`
`00:57.16`	`Otixa`	`Enofel, we may need to ban you ;/`
`00:57.21`	`Enofel`	`~purl ban`
`00:57.21`	`purl`	`rumour has it, ban is a way of getting rid of annoying pests, especially trolls`
`00:57.34`	`Enofel`	`~purl otixa`
`00:57.41`	`wOlfLinG`	`~ban Otixa`
`00:57.49`	`wOlfLinG`	`:(`
`00:57.55`	`Enofel`	`~ban purl`
`00:58.00`	`Enofel`	`~purl ban`
`00:58.00`	`purl`	`[ban] a way of getting rid of annoying pests, especially trolls`
`00:58.11`	`Enofel`	`~purl help`
`00:58.23`	`Enofel`	`~purl legend of the seeker`
`00:58.27`	`Otixa`	`Enofel, stop spamming shit`
`00:58.33`	`Enofel`	`~purl runescape`
`00:58.34`	`purl`	`rumour has it, runescape is @$@% @$#@ a @#$ of !@$!@#`
`00:58.44`	`Enofel`	`!! ^^ !!`
`00:58.53`	`wOlfLinG`	`~purl WoW`
`00:58.53`	`purl`	`it has been said that wow is world of warcraft`
`00:58.53`	`Enofel`	`~purl wow`
`00:58.53`	`purl`	`rumour has it, wow is world of warcraft`
`00:59.03`	`Enofel`	`~purl wom`
`00:59.03`	`purl`	`The word of the moment is: greasepotatopiston`
`00:59.04`	`wOlfLinG`	`Nin'jad you :P`
`00:59.14`	`wOlfLinG`	`~purl world`
`00:59.14`	`purl`	`methinks world is the expert about what a world is, let him do it.`
`00:59.21`	`Enofel`	`~purl life`
`00:59.21`	`purl`	`from memory, life is a board game`
`00:59.23`	`Arthas-`	`no wonder irc is pinging like it is >_<`
`00:59.35`	`Enofel`	`~purl arthas`
`00:59.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~repo banana`
`00:59.47`	`Arthas-`	`its just the nick so ~arthas`
`00:59.52`	`Arthas-`	`and ~help`
`00:59.53`	`Arthas-`	`:p`
`00:59.56`	`Enofel`	`be glad there isnt that runescape duel bot`
`01:00.04`	`Enofel`	`~arthas`
`01:00.14`	`wOlfLinG`	`~purl purl`
`01:00.14`	`purl`	`hmm... purl is a piece of very bad coding.`
`01:00.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~ProzaicMuze`
`01:00.19`	`wOlfLinG`	`lol`
`01:00.25`	`Enofel`	`~purl pretty`
`01:00.25`	`purl`	`well, pretty is Qwell because Qwell is pretty!`
`01:00.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~Me`
`01:00.34`	`Enofel`	`~enofel`
`01:00.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~sexy`
`01:00.41`	`purl`	`"I'm bringing sexy back..."`
`01:00.41`	`wOlfLinG`	`~purl lisp`
`01:00.41`	`purl`	`i heard lisp is a theory that unexpectedly became a programming language http://paulgraham.com/icad.html`
`01:01.04`	`Enofel`	`~purl puppy`
`01:01.12`	`Enofel`	`~purl lol`
`01:01.12`	`purl`	`from memory, lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead.`
`01:01.24`	`Enofel`	`lol`
`01:01.55`	`Enofel`	`~purl me`
`01:02.00`	`wOlfLinG`	`LOLMFAO!`
`01:02.08`	`Enofel`	`~purl w0lfling`
`01:02.16`	`Enofel`	`~purl wofling`
`01:02.16`	`wOlfLinG`	`~purl me`
`01:02.24`	`Enofel`	`~purl otixa`
`01:02.48`	`Enofel`	`~purl isprobaly done with`
`01:03.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~purl banana`
`01:03.42`	`purl`	`i guess banana is a fruit, or banana.com, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/lucio/banana.txt`
`01:03.46`	`Enofel`	`ok, anyone think up any ideas on how to inverse a requirement to hide instead of block while showing another in a req based on a dummy upgrade than some messy triggering is gonna activate from a crappy dialogue of randomlike triats?`
`01:03.50`	`Enofel`	`traits*`
`01:04.04`	`Enofel`	`~purl dick`
`01:04.04`	`purl`	`hmm... dick is male genatalia, or Dessimat0r`
`01:04.14`	`Enofel`	`~purl sec`
`01:04.14`	`purl`	`extra, extra, read all about it, sec is short for Smoke Emitting Capacitor or Securities and Exchange Commission or a recursive acronymn standing for SEC is not ExCrament`
`01:04.37`	`Enofel`	`i think everyone here can guess what i meant to type`
`01:04.52`	`Enofel`	`~purl whoru`
`01:04.54`	`Arthas-`	`~sex`
`01:04.54`	`purl`	`[~sex] updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; emerge --oneshot condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; emerge -C condom; make clean; sleep;`
`01:05.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmao`
`01:05.15`	`Enofel`	`~purl sex`
`01:05.16`	`purl`	`[~sex] updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; emerge --oneshot condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; emerge -C condom; make clean; sleep;`
`01:05.38`	`Enofel`	`~purl whore`
`01:05.38`	`purl`	`i heard whore is a very naughty woman who likes to have sex for money`
`01:05.38`	`Arthas-`	`~brainfuck`
`01:05.38`	`purl`	`it has been said that brainfuck is a Turing complete language at http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/bf/`
`01:05.50`	`Enofel`	`~purl dora`
`01:06.06`	`Enofel`	`~purl starcraft`
`01:06.06`	`purl`	`The St. Arc Raft is the name of that boat that guy used to get off that island.`
`01:06.17`	`Phaos`	`you know what the best turing complete language is ? Whitespace`
`01:06.21`	`Enofel`	`~purl dora the explorer`
`01:06.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Phaos!`
`01:06.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You whore`
`01:06.31`	`Phaos`	`I'm a whore ?`
`01:06.31`	`Enofel`	`~purl phaos`
`01:06.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes`
`01:06.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`beause you have't talked to me`
`01:06.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`in like`
`01:06.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`months`
`01:06.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`years even`
`01:06.43`	`Phaos`	`Wnofel it is ~seen`
`01:06.47`	`Phaos`	`Enofel*`
`01:06.50`	`Phaos`	`~seen`
`01:06.53`	`Enofel`	`~seen phaos`
`01:06.54`	`purl`	`phaos is currently on #sc2mapster (1h 3m 57s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 4s, last said: '~seen'.`
`01:07.11`	`Phaos`	`well`
`01:07.24`	`Phaos`	`I mean I have not been aroudn much and when I am, you arn't on dorkus :P`
`01:07.36`	`Enofel`	`~help`
`01:07.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Oh so it's MY fault?`
`01:07.43`	`Phaos`	`Yes totally xD`
`01:07.49`	`Arthas-`	`~seen hati`
`01:07.50`	`purl`	`hati <kvirc@dslb-088-074-130-089.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 6h 58m 22s ago, saying: 'hiho'.`
`01:07.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`:*(`
`01:08.07`	`Phaos`	`naww PM I still wuv you`
`01:08.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I dont' believe you :(`
`01:08.22`	`Arthas-`	`~seen Bifuu`
`01:08.22`	`purl`	`bifuu <~Bifuu@cpe-071-077-145-012.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 28d 10h 26m 24s ago, saying: 'i win'.`
`01:08.30`	`Phaos`	`oh yeah ? then what is this....`
`01:08.35`	`Phaos`	`fetches something`
`01:08.43`	`Enofel`	`~purl unforget`
`01:08.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`isn't impressed`
`01:08.58`	`Phaos`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/item-drops-armor-and-weapon-each/`
`01:09.04`	`Phaos`	`97 attachments biotch`
`01:09.14`	`Enofel`	`~purl attachments`
`01:09.20`	`Enofel`	`~purl bitch`
`01:09.20`	`purl`	`bitch is, like, a female dog . an iz a bad word if used wrongly . dont say dat ok`
`01:09.33`	`Enofel`	`~purl lrup`
`01:10.17`	`Enofel`	`~purl bored`
`01:10.17`	`purl`	`La ... lalalala ... beer!`
`01:10.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Psh, I'm not impressed by your attachments`
`01:10.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`they're all terran`
`01:10.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`eww`
`01:10.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`gheyest race ever`
`01:10.26`	`Enofel`	`~purl terran`
`01:10.32`	`Phaos`	`lawl`
`01:10.36`	`Enofel`	`~purl human`
`01:10.36`	`purl`	`rumour has it, human is the mind of an angel in the body of an animal`
`01:10.46`	`Enofel`	`~seen random`
`01:10.47`	`purl`	`karnaugh_ <n=karnaugh@siza.thusa.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 715d 6h 29m 34s ago, saying: 'man I'm so lost with this. I used to have an addon that gave stats on PVE targets when I hovered over them, like their drop and what quest I had to kill it for'.`
`01:10.55`	`Arthas-`	`~woman`
`01:10.55`	`purl`	`i heard woman is do a 'man woman' (apt-get install funny-manpages)`
`01:10.59`	`Arthas-`	`lol`
`01:11.03`	`Arthas-`	`I almost saw that one coming`
`01:11.05`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MysT_DooM (~MysT_DooM@ool-44c48774.dyn.optonline.net)`
`01:11.06`	`Enofel`	`~lol`
`01:11.06`	`purl`	`from memory, lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead.`
`01:11.14`	`Enofel`	`~arthas`
`01:11.18`	`thenk`	`hello!`
`01:11.23`	`Enofel`	`~seen thenk`
`01:11.24`	`purl`	`thenk is currently on #sc2mapster (1d 14h 54m 37s). Has said a total of 473 messages. Is idling for 6s, last said: 'hello!'.`
`01:11.32`	`thenk`	`6 seconds idle? blasphemer`
`01:11.37`	`thenk`	`oh wait that me. what a legend`
`01:11.44`	`wOlfLinG`	`lol`
`01:11.45`	`Enofel`	`~seen thenk`
`01:11.45`	`purl`	`thenk is currently on #sc2mapster (1d 14h 54m 58s). Has said a total of 475 messages. Is idling for 8s, last said: 'oh wait that me. what a legend'.`
`01:11.49`	`wOlfLinG`	`sorry`
`01:11.50`	`Enofel`	`8 seconds now`
`01:11.51`	`wOlfLinG`	`lol`
`01:11.58`	`wOlfLinG`	`~seen me`
`01:11.58`	`purl`	`me <c419fd0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.25.253.13> was last seen on IRC in channel #fudforum, 21d 15h 23m 35s ago, saying: 'Hi'.`
`01:11.58`	`Enofel`	`~purl lol`
`01:11.58`	`purl`	`lol is, like, stands for Laughing Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead.`
`01:12.12`	`wOlfLinG`	`~seen wOlfLinG\|AFK`
`01:12.12`	`purl`	`wolfling\|afk <516f48df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.72.223> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 6h 19m 32s ago, saying: 'It says i need to set the map in preferances, but not sure how it works :/'.`
`01:12.14`	`thenk`	`pls no botspam in main chan eh`
`01:12.30`	`wOlfLinG`	`:(`
`01:12.52`	`Enofel`	`its only spam if its preventing others from carrying a conver`
`01:13.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Phaos, go look at yeh query dummy`
`01:13.24`	`thenk`	`is that what they call spam now?`
`01:13.28`	`Enofel`	`~purl spam`
`01:13.29`	`purl`	`i guess spam is a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) and razor.`
`01:13.32`	`Sixen`	`Quit fucking with purl`
`01:13.34`	`Sixen`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:13.43`	`Sixen`	`So it'll be private.`
`01:13.43`	`Sixen`	`Thanks`
`01:13.45`	`thenk`	`exactyl what i was saying`
`01:13.50`	`thenk`	`o/ Sixen`
`01:13.55`	`Sixen`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:14.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`eww`
`01:14.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`now you're both ghey`
`01:14.06`	`Sixen`	`nou`
`01:14.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`salute is for losers`
`01:14.08`	`*** join/#sc2mapster deathnight114 (~chatzilla@c-98-247-52-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)`
`01:14.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But. . . but`
`01:14.13`	`thenk`	`if we're gay, i'm the big spoon.`
`01:14.14`	`Orc`	`I've been seen'd`
`01:14.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`nou!`
`01:14.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~purl kill Sixen`
`01:14.33`	`purl`	`ACTION shoots a charged pseudoquark gun at Sixen`
`01:14.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`win!`
`01:14.55`	`thenk`	`So I bet someone figured out my chargelink debacle whilst i was busy getting drunk`
`01:14.58`	`thenk`	`..?`
`01:14.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`granted it's a fake quark. . . so it probably did nothing :*(`
`01:15.13`	`Enofel`	`~purl kill purl`
`01:15.13`	`purl`	`ACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudoproton gun at purl`
`01:15.30`	`Enofel`	`happy? he shooted himself now`
`01:15.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`an inside out fake proton`
`01:15.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`this is like nerf guns with space particles`
`01:15.51`	`Enofel`	`~purl kill enofel`
`01:15.51`	`purl`	`ACTION shoots a hyper-charged anti-tachyon gun at enofel`
`01:15.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Hah`
`01:16.00`	`Enofel`	`o.0 real thing`
`01:16.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you're actually dead now`
`01:16.17`	`Enofel`	`dies wondering about`
`01:16.22`	`Enofel`	`is dead.`
`01:16.48`	`Enofel`	`~purl zombie`
`01:16.48`	`purl`	`Library and server for developing networked apps/games.. URL: http://www.infa.abo.fi/~chakie/zombie/`
`01:16.54`	`*** kick/#sc2mapster [Enofel!~Sixen@173-25-23-86.client.mchsi.com] by Sixen (Enofel)`
`01:17.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol now Sixen. . .`
`01:17.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`is that anyway to treat a spammer?`
`01:17.29`	`Sixen`	`I think it was appropriate.`
`01:17.35`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Sexxy (4ac14c8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.193.76.138)`
`01:17.45`	`Sixen`	`i'd lawl if that's him`
`01:17.48`	`Sixen`	`Since it's only a kick.`
`01:18.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It's my alter-ego`
`01:18.17`	`Sexxy`	`just check the IP o.0`
`01:18.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`or`
`01:18.29`	`Sexxy`	`facepalm, why help`
`01:18.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`o.0`
`01:18.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`means it's you`
`01:18.38`	`Mephs`	`how does photon defense have 11000 games an hour`
`01:18.50`	`Sexxy`	`because noobs die really fast`
`01:18.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Because the game sucks`
`01:18.57`	`Sexxy`	`and game doesnt start till 5 minutes`
`01:19.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Creation (46f682ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.246.130.186)`
`01:19.05`	`Mephs`	`i should just`
`01:19.09`	`Mephs`	`make my game 3v3`
`01:19.14`	`Mephs`	`and make everyone auto die after 5 min`
`01:19.17`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tordy (Tordy@pool-98-116-82-152.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)`
`01:19.17`	`Mephs`	`that might make it popular`
`01:19.17`	`Creation`	`evening ladies and gentds`
`01:19.21`	`Mephs`	`wait no`
`01:19.23`	`Mephs`	`make it 1v1`
`01:19.27`	`Tordy`	`hi Mephs`
`01:19.27`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kick (4ac14c8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.193.76.138)`
`01:19.33`	`Tordy`	`hi Creation`
`01:19.33`	`Arthas-`	`well waddaya know, tordy is back!`
`01:19.36`	`Tordy`	`hi Arthas!`
`01:19.37`	`Tordy`	`:]`
`01:19.41`	`Creation`	`:D`
`01:20.19`	`Creation`	`Anyone care to help me out with a test run of my map on US?`
`01:20.46`	`thenk`	`make it 1 player auto start and 5 minuts worth of gameplay`
`01:20.49`	`thenk`	`= top map`
`01:21.00`	`Creation`	`rofl thenk`
`01:21.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`or make it like blitz chess`
`01:21.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`each side has 1min to do blah`
`01:21.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`or`
`01:21.23`	`Creation`	`and make sure it sats Nexus and Wars somewhere in the title`
`01:21.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the game is 1min long`
`01:21.29`	`Arthas-`	`or create a minimap where the goal is to finish the map within 6 minutes, otherwise auto defeat!`
`01:21.59`	`Creation`	`someone should really do a social test on that`
`01:22.10`	`Guest3070`	`make it seem than you lost once game reaches 5 minutes but its really just an impossible thing`
`01:22.13`	`*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210)`
`01:22.57`	`Guest3070`	`crap, i just lost the game`
`01:23.10`	`Mephs`	`nexus poop wars`
`01:23.13`	`Arthas-`	`dito, thanks Guest3070`
`01:23.18`	`Mephs`	`BOOM 50k pop`
`01:23.29`	`Arthas-`	`now, you are about to lose the game 2`
`01:23.33`	`Guest3070`	`Just name is free cookies and beer`
`01:23.44`	`Arthas-`	`the rules are the same as for the game, except you cannot forgot about the game`
`01:23.48`	`Arthas-`	`forget`
`01:23.55`	`Guest3070`	`nexus insider: How to get free cookies and milk! beat the game to find out!`
`01:26.31`	`Guest3070`	`~search sixen`
`01:27.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`oh mister phaos`
`01:27.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`due`
`01:27.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`dude8`
`01:28.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`guy`
`01:28.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`person`
`01:28.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`phaos c'mere`
`01:28.55`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Chainclaw (~chatzilla@c-24-16-241-169.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)`
`01:29.53`	`Phaos`	`huh what`
`01:29.54`	`Phaos`	`eh`
`01:29.55`	`Phaos`	`what`
`01:29.56`	`Phaos`	`people`
`01:29.58`	`Phaos`	`talking at me`
`01:29.59`	`Phaos`	`wtf`
`01:30.19`	`*** join/#sc2mapster YouNoob (4ac14c8a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.193.76.138)`
`01:30.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`look at joo query`
`01:30.28`	`Phaos`	`oh!`
`01:30.47`	`wOlfLinG`	`wut?`
`01:31.43`	`Creation`	`my map is starting to look like hollywood with all these damn cameras.. I wish there was a way to turn the visibility of them off`
`01:31.56`	`progammer`	`you can turn on of layer`
`01:32.07`	`Creation`	`oh rly?`
`01:32.49`	`Creation`	`no that doesnt work..`
`01:32.51`	`progammer`	`ya rly`
`01:33.00`	`Creation`	`.cameras still stay visibly even when they layer isnt on`
`01:33.06`	`progammer`	`also each object like point region cam can be turn on/off indivudually`
`01:33.18`	`progammer`	`right click -> show camera`
`01:33.40`	`Creation`	`ah nice`
`01:33.41`	`Creation`	`thanks`
`01:33.45`	`progammer`	`you can tweak each layer, for eg in terrain layer you can disable all point/region`
`01:33.56`	`YouNoob`	`anyone know how to take the inverse of showing of a dummy upgrade for a requirement but the oppsoite in another requirement to hide and show two buttons in the same space which would destroy a basic law of physics make my map work at the same time?`
`01:33.59`	`progammer`	`while in point layer disable unit`
`01:34.11`	`Creation`	`FINALLY`
`01:34.17`	`Creation`	`my map looks fresh again, thanks prog`
`01:34.21`	`Tordy`	`what just happened?`
`01:34.49`	`wOlfLinG`	`You became a god`
`01:35.31`	`Creation`	`hey Programmer you know how you put the ghosts on the ultras in your map? Did you use the attacth model trigger to head or something? Or did you go through data?`
`01:37.36`	`progammer`	`simple attach`
`01:37.43`	`progammer`	`though data should be better`
`01:38.30`	`Chainclaw`	`you have a map with ghosts riding on the backs of ultras?`
`01:38.36`	`Creation`	`his chess map`
`01:38.51`	`Chainclaw`	`I was hoping it was some sort of cowboy themed zerg wrangler' map`
`01:38.57`	`Phaos`	`http://filesmelt.com/dl/tychusteatiem.png`
`01:38.59`	`Creation`	`yeah im just not sure how to do it in data`
`01:39.18`	`Creation`	`lol chain, thats a damn good idea though`
`01:39.20`	`Rodrigo`	`I just contacted the HP support, and of course they didnt solve my problem`
`01:40.35`	`Rodrigo`	`HP: What's the problem? Rodrigo: My pc freezes up when I play Starcraft. HP: Ok, to fix this problem, follow these steps: Open the Control Panel, click in Programs, click in Starcraft2, press "Delete"`
`01:40.39`	`Chainclaw`	`Phaos if you get to the last level on Brutal difficulty and get all the achievements that's what happens`
`01:41.32`	`Otixa`	`Chainclaw, no, that's what happens when you watch ModCraft ;p`
`01:42.05`	`Chainclaw`	`ceramic tiles? http://www.mod-craft.com/`
`01:42.30`	`Otixa`	`harhar`
`01:42.38`	`Otixa`	`livestream.com/modcraft/`
`01:43.01`	`Chainclaw`	`cool`
`01:43.47`	`Tordy`	`otixa what's wrong?`
`01:50.28`	`wOlfLinG`	`Ok, so when my RPG starts there is the choice of 3 options: New Hero (new game), Load Hero (new game with a pre-made hero) or load game`
`01:50.34`	`Tordy`	`is modify unit fraction of max or current?`
`01:50.37`	`wOlfLinG`	`What options should i have for them?`
`01:50.42`	`Tordy`	`modify unit life`
`01:50.46`	`Tordy`	`the effect`
`01:50.46`	`Creation`	`Programmer is there a way to view what triggers are on in test?`
`01:50.55`	`Tordy`	`turn on the debugger?`
`01:50.58`	`wOlfLinG`	`Creation: Debugger`
`01:51.02`	`Creation`	`how?`
`01:51.06`	`wOlfLinG`	`Turn it on in the preferances`
`01:51.06`	`Tordy`	`in preferences`
`01:51.12`	`Creation`	`ok ty`
`01:51.12`	`Tordy`	`hi Wolfling :4`
`01:51.14`	`wOlfLinG`	`But you need to be in windowed mode`
`01:51.21`	`wOlfLinG`	`-.- hi tody`
`01:51.24`	`wOlfLinG`	`tordy*`
`01:52.59`	`Creation`	`sighs Where is it in pref? I must be going blind... sorry`
`01:54.30`	`Creation`	`ah got it i think`
`01:57.03`	`Kenterik`	`Anyone have experience debugging UnitRevive() in custom code?`
`01:57.20`	`Kenterik`	`I'd done just about every way to debug i can think and i still can't get it to work on my map`
`01:58.45`	`progammer`	`Creation: please address my name correctly :(`
`02:00.05`	`Tordy`	`keep it up man`
`02:00.10`	`Tordy`	`progRammer`
`02:00.11`	`Tordy`	`:]`
`02:00.13`	`Tordy`	`>:)`
`02:00.23`	`Tordy`	`hi progammer`
`02:00.53`	`progammer`	`+1 cookie`
`02:01.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Creation (46f682ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.246.130.186)`
`02:01.14`	`thenk`	`i don't understand, tab completeion prog-> progammer`
`02:01.35`	`Creation`	`ok.. guys i turned the debug window on in preferences, but its not showing any debugger... does the standard UI have to be on?`
`02:01.48`	`Azoth`	`it shows up in its own window`
`02:01.57`	`Azoth`	`you'll have one window with starcraft one with the debugger`
`02:02.01`	`Azoth`	`and it only shows up when you test your map`
`02:02.16`	`Creation`	`oh`
`02:02.20`	`Creation`	`thanks`
`02:02.31`	`Creation`	`durh durh durh...`
`02:02.42`	`Kenterik`	`so tell me why this makes sense (b/c blizz must think it does), in order to use ReviveUnit, you have the unit's Stat - Death Time to a higher amount than you can wait before calling ReviveUnit`
`02:03.49`	`Kenterik`	`or, as further testing is showing...looks like it has to be at least 5 seconds?`
`02:03.52`	`Kenterik`	`this makes no sense`
`02:06.49`	`Creation`	`rofl... 300 triggers, this is going to be a debugging nightmare`
`02:07.03`	`Creation`	`sips mountain dew`
`02:07.12`	`Orc`	`You can set the death time to -1 for units you want to revive`
`02:07.36`	`Orc`	`"Death Time" just refrs to how before the unit is removed completely`
`02:08.34`	`Orc`	`I can type. What I meant to say was: "Death Time" just refers to how long before the unit is removed completely`
`02:08.55`	`Orc`	`So if its set to 5, it exists in memory for 5 seconds after its "death", after that it's gone`
`02:09.02`	`Orc`	`At least thats how I think of it`
`02:09.04`	`Kenterik`	`okay`
`02:09.07`	`Kenterik`	`yea -1 is working too`
`02:09.17`	`Orc`	`-1 is the generic "Forever" entry :/`
`02:09.23`	`Kenterik`	`so I thought blizz said that with 1.1 items woudln't drop on death`
`02:09.26`	`Kenterik`	`if they weren't flagged`
`02:09.31`	`Kenterik`	`but i'm losing the items after i die`
`02:09.36`	`Kenterik`	`they're not even dropping`
`02:09.38`	`Kenterik`	`they're just disappearing`
`02:09.42`	`Kenterik`	`any clue?`
`02:14.42`	`Creation`	`man I wish you could debug over bnet...`
`02:16.07`	`slightlyrandom`	`You cn`
`02:16.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`can*`
`02:16.26`	`slightlyrandom`	`Enable the debug window, open a map, quit it, log in, play a game`
`02:19.20`	`Creation`	`is it bad if your activity peaks out at 460 at map init in the debugger?`
`02:21.25`	`thenk`	`yeah or i believe you can use a trigger which opens the debug window`
`02:21.30`	`thenk`	`you just have to be running in windowed mode`
`02:21.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Twiner\|Inlaws (~Vern_Mitc@c-98-229-44-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)`
`02:22.05`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`ProzaicMuze: you around??`
`02:22.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`sorta`
`02:22.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`what yeh need?`
`02:22.54`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`you mentioned that I could use signal to signal actors from actors earlier, but I must be stupid or something`
`02:23.16`	`slightlyrandom`	`Three slices of pepperoni pizza, a thimble of brandy and a good back-rub`
`02:23.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`psh`
`02:23.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`throws random off a bridge`
`02:23.46`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`I add an event to an actor, and put the message as Signal, and put in the signal name, and then on the same actor I have a Signal event that has a message of GlowStart`
`02:23.59`	`slightlyrandom`	`You're always so damned violent`
`02:24.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I like it rough?`
`02:24.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`Why can't we just be friends ?`
`02:24.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`because you're lazy and won't do your homework`
`02:24.25`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`I put down two of that actor and use a trigger to activate the signal`
`02:24.40`	`slightlyrandom`	`I have been doing my homework`
`02:24.58`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`err, to activate the event that has the signal message, and that works, and it activates the signal on that actor, but not on any other actor`
`02:25.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`Don't tell me those 150 pages of philosophy I read today count for nothing`
`02:25.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`they don't, sorry`
`02:25.28`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`they don't trigger other actors?`
`02:25.42`	`slightlyrandom`	`Well!`
`02:25.44`	`thenk`	`lol`
`02:25.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Twiner - so what you're saying is you send the signal and only one of the target recipients is acting like it recieved it?`
`02:26.14`	`slightlyrandom`	`I'm sure gonna take this up with my professor on monday`
`02:26.20`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`I use a trigger to activate the event on one actor, which triggers the signal on that actor, but it doesn't affect any other actors`
`02:26.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Too bad I killed your professor too`
`02:26.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the replacement is going to fail you`
`02:26.51`	`slightlyrandom`	`Bugger`
`02:26.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`because I paid him to do such`
`02:26.57`	`slightlyrandom`	`I liked him`
`02:27.07`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DarkRevenant (~chatzilla@ip72-197-184-165.sd.sd.cox.net)`
`02:27.19`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`the event is actually a signal of a different SubName, donno if that matters`
`02:27.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Jyggaa (Teq@unaffiliated/jygga)`
`02:27.27`	`thenk`	`ProzaicMuze, opinion on riffage? http://www.sendspace.com/file/3qwxys - pls excuse the recording, my usual soundcard is on the blink so im' using DX`
`02:27.29`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Triceron (60313557@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.49.53.87)`
`02:27.37`	`Triceron`	`Ahoy mateys`
`02:27.42`	`slightlyrandom`	`Arrr`
`02:27.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Twiner - So you're using a trigger to send the signal? or you're using a trigger to activate the event that has the signal's name?`
`02:28.05`	`thenk`	`need to get my laptop with firewire working again, all my soundscards are firewire :P`
`02:28.09`	`slightlyrandom`	`Give me all ye doubloons, ya filthy cur`
`02:28.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I's no pirate yarr!`
`02:28.23`	`DarkRevenant`	`crap`
`02:28.30`	`DarkRevenant`	`anyone know how to make actors move smoothly`
`02:28.35`	`thenk`	`I'm making a line tower wars map, looking for someone who likes to make towers`
`02:28.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`I absolutely refuse to use units for my projectiles`
`02:28.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`since I'll be spamming them`
`02:28.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Then you're going to fail`
`02:29.01`	`DarkRevenant`	`units are definitely way less optimized than actors`
`02:29.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`since projectiles ARE units`
`02:29.06`	`slightlyrandom`	`:P`
`02:29.09`	`DarkRevenant`	`what i mean is`
`02:29.18`	`slightlyrandom`	`Make em invisible`
`02:29.18`	`thenk`	`DarkRevenant, units and actors are comlpetely different things`
`02:29.20`	`slightlyrandom`	`Lasers!`
`02:29.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`I'm making a wholly customized system`
`02:29.39`	`DarkRevenant`	`right now my "projectiles" (completely scripted)`
`02:29.42`	`DarkRevenant`	`work exactly as intended`
`02:29.43`	`Triceron`	`use sprites`
`02:29.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`collide with walls, players, etc`
`02:30.00`	`thenk`	`guess you could just use actors and models with no unit.`
`02:30.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`however, the movement is 20fps because of the 1/16 clamp on faster`
`02:30.05`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`i have event.Signal { Term: SubName StartColorFlow; Message: Signal-RunColorFlow; } , event.Signal { term: SubName RunColorFlow; Message: GlowStart} , and event.Signal { Term: SubName RunColorFlow; Message: Signal-RunColorFlow; }`
`02:30.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`thenk, is this a recording or more synth?`
`02:30.10`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`oh this doesn't work anyways`
`02:30.15`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`it creates an infinite loop`
`02:30.15`	`thenk`	`ProzaicMuze recording of piano`
`02:30.23`	`DarkRevenant`	`what`
`02:30.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`through midi or mic?`
`02:30.28`	`thenk`	`but my piano is just plugged into the mic port on my laptop`
`02:30.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`mmk`
`02:30.42`	`DarkRevenant`	`twiner what is that supposed to be`
`02:30.46`	`thenk`	`had it in my head so i recorded it`
`02:30.47`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`and I use a trigger to activate the ?StartColorFlow signal`
`02:30.48`	`DarkRevenant`	`a color gradient and glow?`
`02:31.12`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`the intent is that, I send the signal to a single actor, and then the signal cascades out to other nearby actors`
`02:31.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`so this was played by hand then, yes?`
`02:31.41`	`slightlyrandom`	`Feet`
`02:31.43`	`DarkRevenant`	`can I apply movers to actors`
`02:31.43`	`slightlyrandom`	`Played by feet`
`02:31.53`	`DarkRevenant`	`as in Site (Mover) actor type`
`02:32.06`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`thenk: btw, i like that ed209 track on the show you linked the other day`
`02:32.28`	`slightlyrandom`	`thenk: Slightly chaotic track, but has some very nice elements in it`
`02:32.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Thenk - I liked some of the stuff at the end, but the beginning has too many chords`
`02:33.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`argh`
`02:33.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`the problem with units`
`02:33.35`	`DarkRevenant`	`is I have very little control with what happens`
`02:33.41`	`thenk`	`Twiner\|Inlaws, classic track. i played that one didnt i? at about 3 horus something?`
`02:33.48`	`thenk`	`please put down your weapons!`
`02:33.53`	`thenk`	`you have fifteen seconds to comply!`
`02:33.59`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`yeah, that is what I was talking about :p`
`02:34.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`pitch (rotation in XY axis) is really difficult to do`
`02:34.08`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`is awesome and hilarious`
`02:34.11`	`thenk`	`renegade hardware, mannnn!`
`02:34.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It's hard to make a melody with just chords, so add some runs or even single note phrases between some of the chord progressions.`
`02:34.21`	`wOlfLinG`	`night peeps!`
`02:34.26`	`slightlyrandom`	`morning!`
`02:34.36`	`wOlfLinG`	`same thing`
`02:34.41`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`ProzaicMuze: any idea?`
`02:34.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`whereas with actors`
`02:34.47`	`slightlyrandom`	`Just 12 hours apart`
`02:34.52`	`thenk`	`ah you mean, at the start it's all chords with no run inbetween cords?`
`02:34.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`i can just plug in the rotation vector into the actor message and have full control`
`02:34.59`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`all I want to really do is just send a message to 1 actor in a specific direction`
`02:35.01`	`DarkRevenant`	`albiet at 16fps`
`02:35.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`albeit*`
`02:35.08`	`thenk`	`chords*`
`02:35.41`	`thenk`	`hey i just listened back to it myself, that keyboard has a really nice sound!`
`02:36.02`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yeah, when it isn't messing up and scratching all over`
`02:36.12`	`thenk`	`that's my mic port`
`02:36.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`well fine, be useless`
`02:36.24`	`slightlyrandom`	`Can do!`
`02:36.33`	`slightlyrandom`	`Anyway, I ran out of books`
`02:36.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`new question to address same problem in a hackish manner`
`02:36.40`	`thenk`	`can't handle linein signal, i'm surprised it sounds as good as it does :P`
`02:36.43`	`slightlyrandom`	`and my next shipment is a couple of days out`
`02:36.44`	`slightlyrandom`	`:(`
`02:36.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Twiner - I'm having trouble understanding what you're trying to do. It sounds to me like you want to use a trigger to send a signal to one actor and then that actor sends the same signal to more actors? And I assume this is through actor messages sent by a trigger. The problem with this is it's not what I meant by signals and events at all if this is indeed what you're trying to do.`
`02:36.50`	`DarkRevenant`	`is there any way now to speed up the game past fastest (1.6x normal)`
`02:37.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`suppose I made the game speed 4x, then the projectiles would move at 64fps`
`02:37.28`	`thenk`	`hehe, man i can hear my off-timings, it is difficult when there is lag on your sound when you play it`
`02:37.46`	`slightlyrandom`	`It gets kinda bad in place`
`02:37.47`	`slightlyrandom`	`s`
`02:37.48`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`the trigger is just the test`
`02:37.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Thenk - sorta. Essentially the intro sounds good and then you hit what I would expect to be the melody around 0:45. Then you have the same chord shape being used a lot multiple times in a row with 1-3 single note runs maybe twice?`
`02:38.09`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`specicially, i want to use 1 actor, to send a message to another seperate actor of the same type`
`02:38.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Then you do the arpeggios`
`02:38.25`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`specifically**`
`02:38.37`	`thenk`	`well its called a 'riff' cos its not actually a song but just a riff`
`02:38.45`	`DarkRevenant`	`someone did some slow motion nuking`
`02:38.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yeah, i get that`
`02:38.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`how was that accomplished?`
`02:38.54`	`thenk`	`i.e. the riff is the chord prog, thats why its repeated over and over with layers on top`
`02:38.55`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But riff's gotta have some kinda melody too ;)`
`02:38.56`	`Tordy`	`argh`
`02:39.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`riffs*`
`02:39.09`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Tordy (Tordy@pool-98-116-82-152.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)`
`02:39.17`	`thenk`	`well, i intend to lay a melody over the top`
`02:39.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Like once you finish the arpeggio it starts to get really good`
`02:39.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But before the arpeggio it's a tad too repetitive.`
`02:39.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So I'd say the first 45sc and the last 45sec sound great`
`02:39.52`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ekcolnovkol (ekcolnovko@pool-98-116-29-39.nycmny.east.verizon.net)`
`02:39.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the middle would need some slight adjustments and then it'd be good too :D`
`02:40.02`	`DarkRevenant`	`ffs does anyone`
`02:40.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`know the answers to any of the questions?`
`02:40.17`	`thenk`	`well, let me fix my recording setup, i get 'put off' by latency`
`02:40.23`	`DarkRevenant`	`just one of them would solve my problem`
`02:40.24`	`thenk`	`and i will give it another shot`
`02:40.42`	`DarkRevenant`	`1. blend movement on actors, not just units`
`02:40.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Twiner - mmk, but do the actors already have the signals on them?`
`02:40.48`	`DarkRevenant`	`2. raise game speed past faster`
`02:40.52`	`DarkRevenant`	`3. apply movers to actors`
`02:40.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Like is it spelled out in actor events? or are you trying to use triggers to shoot the signals around?`
`02:40.57`	`DarkRevenant`	`can any of them be done?`
`02:41.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Dark - you can blent in animation play events`
`02:41.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Blend in and blend out`
`02:41.27`	`thenk`	`blend in move?`
`02:41.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You can change game speed if you use program mind(?) created`
`02:41.52`	`DarkRevenant`	`hmm`
`02:42.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`oh then it's useless for me, mutliplayer map`
`02:42.08`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`ProzaicMuze: if you mean, do I have a signal event programmed, then yes`
`02:42.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`And you can apply movers to anything that you are going to move via projectiles, move ability commands and mover actors`
`02:42.44`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`no, I don't want to use triggers to shoot the signals around`
`02:42.51`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`I want to use actors to shoot the signals around`
`02:43.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Twiner - mmk, then don't bother with triggers at all. It's a poor way to test what you're trying to do`
`02:43.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Just make an ability that triggers the first signal when cast`
`02:43.20`	`DarkRevenant`	`also`
`02:43.22`	`DarkRevenant`	`prozaic`
`02:43.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`what will animation blend do for me if i'm trying to transpose the actor?`
`02:43.49`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`should the signal message on the first actor trigger the signal event on nearby actors?`
`02:44.16`	`DarkRevenant`	`i'm trying to just get the game to blend the movement from point A to B to C to D, etc`
`02:44.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Twiner - you'd need to get creative`
`02:44.28`	`DarkRevenant`	`on my actor`
`02:44.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Dark - one sec while I finish with Twiner`
`02:44.43`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`so this isn't something that is straight forward`
`02:44.55`	`ProzaicMuze`	`IT is and it isn't`
`02:44.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`let me explain`
`02:45.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you want to send the signal from one actor to another or multiple othe actors you can pick them specifically`
`02:45.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It will send the message regardless of distance`
`02:45.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`And whatever the other actor receives from the signal will happen regardless`
`02:45.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`UNLESS`
`02:45.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you start to add qualifiers`
`02:45.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Like ::host in the target`
`02:45.43`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ckknight (~ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight)`
`02:45.43`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`02:45.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`for attachments`
`02:45.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`or use buffs and search effects to validate the signal`
`02:45.55`	`ProzaicMuze`	`for example`
`02:46.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You could have the ability put a buff on the first unit`
`02:46.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`This buff does a search adn everyone within X gets another buff`
`02:46.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the first actor sends a signal when it receives the buff`
`02:46.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the other actor sends out signals when they have the 2nd buff`
`02:46.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`thus the signal would only propogate from units with the 2nd buff`
`02:46.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`And this is how you would check proximity from singals`
`02:46.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`TL;DR`
`02:47.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Ability > Buff1 > Signal 1 > Search 1 > Buff2 > Signal 2`
`02:47.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`+ 2 validators`
`02:47.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Does that make sense?`
`02:47.48`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`so you would have an event that listen for a buff, or you would have a buff that sends a message to the actor?`
`02:48.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`event that is triggered by a buff`
`02:48.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`sicne buffs can't send anything`
`02:48.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`only actors`
`02:48.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm assuming this is based off units though`
`02:48.50`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`yeah`
`02:48.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`so if you're not using units for these signals it's much more complex`
`02:49.08`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`I don't see any buff event`
`02:49.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`behavior`
`02:49.13`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`do you mean a be`
`02:49.14`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`ok`
`02:49.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`behavior.[NAME].Create`
`02:49.29`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`okay, I think I can figure it out from here`
`02:49.30`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`thanks`
`02:49.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`mmk ;)`
`02:49.54`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`oh yeah duh, a buff is a behavior`
`02:49.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Dark - what do you mean by transpose? Use a Site mover?`
`02:51.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`back`
`02:51.23`	`DarkRevenant`	`i'm using actors as the stock for my scripted projectiles`
`02:51.30`	`Creation`	`ok this better work...`
`02:51.41`	`Creation`	`can i get a US tester to help me out real fast?`
`02:51.48`	`DarkRevenant`	`I need something editable via triggers`
`02:51.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`mmk`
`02:52.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`well just so you know, all projectiles use actors by default`
`02:52.14`	`DarkRevenant`	`they also use units`
`02:52.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`which is a performance hit`
`02:52.34`	`DarkRevenant`	`and causes other problems when I'm trying to trigger them`
`02:52.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the unit portion of a projectile is essentially a dummy unit that has no purpose outside of being invulnerable or destructible by effects`
`02:52.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`also for adding behaviors`
`02:52.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`for example, rotation doesn't work`
`02:53.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So you want to use triggers to send actor messages to your actors and move them with site movers, but you need the movement to be blended along the path, yes?`
`02:53.28`	`DarkRevenant`	`well`
`02:53.32`	`DarkRevenant`	`up until now i was`
`02:53.34`	`DarkRevenant`	`using`
`02:53.35`	`DarkRevenant`	`set position`
`02:53.55`	`DarkRevenant`	`but obviously that only updates at 16fps`
`02:53.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Which just teleports them around lol`
`02:54.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`site movers, iirc, are actual movements`
`02:54.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you want to move an actor and have it blend along the path, you'll need to use site movers`
`02:54.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The colossus beams are moved with movers`
`02:54.31`	`DarkRevenant`	`how do I edit them via triggers`
`02:54.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I don't know triggers, so this is a lot of educated guessing`
`02:54.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But`
`02:54.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you make the movers in the data editor`
`02:55.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`for example:`
`02:55.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`keep in mind`
`02:55.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`i already tried`
`02:55.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Left turn, right turn, move ahead etc`
`02:55.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`one way`
`02:55.09`	`DarkRevenant`	`it didn't work that way`
`02:55.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So that you have a series of preset movements, I believe you can use actor messages sent from triggers to tell these site movers to move the actor in question`
`02:55.35`	`*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210)`
`02:56.10`	`DarkRevenant`	`preset movements doesnt really cut it when i'm using projectiles`
`02:56.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`unless those preset movements are rotation-relative`
`02:56.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You can send actor message to rotate an actor during it's movement`
`02:56.38`	`DarkRevenant`	`so i can manually change the vector rotation of the actor and the site mover falls in line with a simple forward motion?`
`02:56.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`since site movers happen over a given period of time`
`02:57.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`My understanding is that site movers move options independent of rotation. Since it's point to point movement`
`02:57.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Meaning you'd need to rotate the actor separately`
`02:58.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`well`
`02:58.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`the colossus beams, for example`
`02:58.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`site rockers let you change pitch and roll if that matters to you at all`
`02:58.30`	`DarkRevenant`	`well`
`02:58.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`the thing is`
`02:58.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`i'm using this for a physics system, for the most part`
`02:59.02`	`DarkRevenant`	`i cant have preset rotations and speed values`
`02:59.10`	`DarkRevenant`	`since those are variables`
`02:59.23`	`Creation`	`guys is there a japanese version of starcraft out?`
`02:59.29`	`DarkRevenant`	`... yes`
`02:59.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`mmk, so what exactly do you need these missles for? Since I'm not entirely clear on why you can't use units.`
`02:59.31`	`DarkRevenant`	`since day 1`
`02:59.36`	`Creation`	`can we get on those servers?`
`02:59.40`	`*** join/#sc2mapster crazyfingers (ae41342b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.65.52.43)`
`02:59.40`	`DarkRevenant`	`units`
`02:59.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Since if I know what you're trying to do long term that might help me figure out how to get it to work.`
`02:59.44`	`Triceron`	`the japanese play SC2?`
`02:59.47`	`SkyChaser`	`lol`
`02:59.48`	`DarkRevenant`	`are much more difficult to manipulate correctly`
`02:59.58`	`Creation`	`I need to find a way onto japanese servers`
`02:59.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`for example`
`03:00.06`	`Triceron`	`why japanese servers?`
`03:00.11`	`SkyChaser`	`you need to buy Japanese SC2`
`03:00.13`	`Creation`	`because i made a final fantasy game`
`03:00.17`	`Creation`	`lol`
`03:00.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`i couldn't get the unit actor to respond to the`
`03:00.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`Set Rotation actor message`
`03:00.26`	`crazyfingers`	`Recruiting for Cosmic Eclipse`
`03:00.31`	`crazyfingers`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIdvQ32WBjE&feature=player_embedded`
`03:00.31`	`Triceron`	`you know that Japanese people don't play PC games a lot`
`03:00.36`	`Creation`	`DarkRevenant im having the same problem`
`03:00.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`also units, when we're talking about a couple hundred concurrent projectiles`
`03:00.43`	`Triceron`	`they stick to consoles for a reason`
`03:00.44`	`crazyfingers`	`if anyone is interested I made a thread here:`
`03:00.48`	`crazyfingers`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/team-recruitment/`
`03:00.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`will be much much more hard on the comp`
`03:00.53`	`DarkRevenant`	`than mere actors`
`03:01.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Crazyfingers - it's back on!? :D`
`03:01.11`	`Creation`	`Japanese and Koreans play a lot of SC2`
`03:01.16`	`crazyfingers`	`ha, always has been prozaic`
`03:01.21`	`Triceron`	`if you make a final fantasy game/map you're tailoring to koreans/taiwanese more`
`03:01.27`	`crazyfingers`	`in fact now is probably the first slowdown we've had in a while`
`03:01.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Well in that case, I'll have some stuff to give you in the coming week :D`
`03:01.34`	`crazyfingers`	`been hitting it really hard to get it ready`
`03:01.37`	`Triceron`	`Japanese are gonna play real Final Fantasy :/`
`03:01.43`	`crazyfingers`	`awesome dude!`
`03:01.46`	`crazyfingers`	`looking forward to it`
`03:01.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You mentioned the other folks bailing and wait not, so I thought yeh was takin' a break :S`
`03:01.54`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`On apply behavior, if I set the Unit - Unit + to Outer, it will affect units around the unit the effect is applied on, not the unit itself, right?`
`03:01.57`	`Creation`	`Not if I make a map thats on par with what FF has to offer`
`03:02.09`	`Triceron`	`You have cute anime girls in it?`
`03:02.11`	`Creation`	`if you ask me my system is better than FF13s`
`03:02.20`	`DarkRevenant`	`well`
`03:02.23`	`crazyfingers`	`hehe, i took a couple breaks since we submitted to the competition, but good lord i was working 40 hour weeks on that thing for like over a month`
`03:02.29`	`Triceron`	`cuz if you don't you've already lost half the FF userbase :P`
`03:02.35`	`DarkRevenant`	`anyway, how do i apply a site mover to an actor`
`03:03.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@DarkRevenant - for units, did you consider making custom movers? Since you can set the movement of the projectile to be whatever you want with perfect blending if you use custom movers`
`03:03.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`For site movers, you set it how you want it to move the actor`
`03:03.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`prozaic, that leaves out rotation`
`03:03.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`then`
`03:03.48`	`SkyChaser`	`I wanna play the FF map`
`03:03.51`	`SkyChaser`	`:>`
`03:04.01`	`Creation`	`Sky are you in US servers?`
`03:04.07`	`SkyChaser`	`yesh`
`03:04.10`	`DarkRevenant`	`as far as I know, I can't edit unit pitch and roll through triggers`
`03:04.16`	`Creation`	`whats your ID? I need a tester right now actually`
`03:04.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It depoends on what you're going to do with it`
`03:04.27`	`SkyChaser`	`I'm not really a mapper...`
`03:04.29`	`SkyChaser`	`o.o`
`03:04.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`if an effect/behavior/ability will create the mover, tie it's creation to that.`
`03:04.43`	`SkyChaser`	`I can play with and give feedback`
`03:04.46`	`Creation`	`dont need to be a mapper to test`
`03:04.47`	`DarkRevenant`	`triggers`
`03:04.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`all triggers`
`03:04.59`	`Creation`	`Skychaser whats your user and ID #?`
`03:05.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Then you just need to have the events for what happens when it's created`
`03:05.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But NOT the create event itself`
`03:05.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You should look at blizzard's stock site movers`
`03:05.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and pick and choose which events you'll want`
`03:05.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Since if you're using triggers and with hundreds of projectiles, I'm not entirely sure what events you'll want/need`
`03:05.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Given I don't know triggers well`
`03:05.53`	`DarkRevenant`	`well`
`03:05.55`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Shawn\|moo (~chatzilla@96.26.230.223)`
`03:05.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`the thing is`
`03:06.00`	`DarkRevenant`	`a projectile used in a physics system`
`03:06.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`must be able to rotate in all 3 axes`
`03:06.08`	`DarkRevenant`	`and have variable speed`
`03:06.10`	`DarkRevenant`	`in all 3 axes`
`03:06.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`through every single degree`
`03:06.28`	`DarkRevenant`	`meaning preset values are no-no's`
`03:06.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You can do that with movers`
`03:07.25`	`DarkRevenant`	`I've rigged my system to either use actors or units`
`03:07.30`	`DarkRevenant`	`the thing is`
`03:07.32`	`DarkRevenant`	`when i use units`
`03:07.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`rotation absolutely does not work`
`03:07.41`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mephs (~mephs@c-67-165-211-45.hsd1.co.comcast.net)`
`03:07.44`	`Phaos`	`Tychus is ridin' dirty`
`03:07.45`	`Phaos`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmQbC76tub4`
`03:08.00`	`progammer`	`DarkRevenant: did send actor message work in changin roll and pitch ?`
`03:08.05`	`DarkRevenant`	`no`
`03:08.21`	`DarkRevenant`	`i gave the actor message to the actor of the projectile unit`
`03:08.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Dark - are you trying to make the missiles shoot randomly? What exactly is making these missiles?`
`03:08.24`	`progammer`	`hm is that kind of a bug`
`03:08.44`	`DarkRevenant`	`the missiles`
`03:08.51`	`DarkRevenant`	`are for an isometric shooter`
`03:08.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`with multiple cliff levels`
`03:09.19`	`DarkRevenant`	`and are "driven" by a scripted physics system`
`03:09.40`	`DarkRevenant`	`the missiles are`
`03:09.42`	`DarkRevenant`	`created`
`03:09.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`by a trigger`
`03:10.00`	`DarkRevenant`	`create unit, create actor (create model), what have you`
`03:10.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`isometric. . . sidescroller, right?`
`03:10.31`	`DarkRevenant`	`no`
`03:10.37`	`DarkRevenant`	`isometric refers to`
`03:10.45`	`DarkRevenant`	`shooter using the regular sc2 camera`
`03:10.58`	`DarkRevenant`	`as opposed to`
`03:11.02`	`DarkRevenant`	`third-person shooter or`
`03:11.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`whatever`
`03:11.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`oh so slant view instead of topdown or side`
`03:12.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Have you looked at my customized projectiles tutorial?`
`03:12.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Since if I'm picturing this right in my head, going crazy with site movers might be overcomplicating what you could easily do with custom movers`
`03:12.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But I'm not sure so you'd need to see the tutorial and figure out if any of those movers are like what you're wanting.`
`03:12.50`	`DarkRevenant`	`I can edit movers very easily through triggers`
`03:12.54`	`DarkRevenant`	`however`
`03:13.01`	`DarkRevenant`	`that does not include rotation`
`03:13.13`	`DarkRevenant`	`rotation is, in a physics setting, completely independent of the velocity`
`03:13.31`	`progammer`	`DarkRevenant: by catalogue value set ? i'm also have trouble changing collide of an unit`
`03:13.46`	`DarkRevenant`	`collision is not a problem`
`03:13.51`	`DarkRevenant`	`for me`
`03:13.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`As far as rotation set by triggers goes I have no idea why it isn't working for you or even how it should work.`
`03:13.55`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Triggers = blah for me lol`
`03:14.02`	`DarkRevenant`	`I don't exactly know what you're talking about, progammer`
`03:14.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But if you're wanting to change a units yaw/pitch/roll without changing the velocity of the projectile, I believe you can achieve something like that with a custom mover`
`03:14.37`	`DarkRevenant`	`right now, actors are working exactly as I intend`
`03:14.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster progammer_ (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210)`
`03:14.45`	`DarkRevenant`	`but at 20fps on faster`
`03:14.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`but the rotation doesn't work with triggers?`
`03:15.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`rotation does not work through triggers... on units`
`03:15.05`	`*** join/#sc2mapster P_R_Deltoid (~P_R_Dontk@c-76-20-43-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`03:15.05`	`progammer_`	`DarkRevenant: no i'm just asking how d you change mover by trigger`
`03:15.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`as in`
`03:15.09`	`DarkRevenant`	`pitch`
`03:15.15`	`DarkRevenant`	`obviously unit rotation in the Z axis works`
`03:15.17`	`progammer_`	`set cataloge value set it all for every unit`
`03:15.18`	`DarkRevenant`	`but XY is off-limits`
`03:15.33`	`progammer_`	`of that type`
`03:15.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`definitely look at the site rocker then`
`03:15.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that changes pitch nd roll`
`03:15.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`prozaic, it does not change pitch and roll to a variable setting`
`03:16.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`only a preset`
`03:16.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`meaning it's useless for a physics system`
`03:16.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`can't you change the field of any actor with triggers?`
`03:17.06`	`DarkRevenant`	`no`
`03:17.36`	`DarkRevenant`	`only certain values can be set`
`03:17.47`	`DarkRevenant`	`site movers and rockers cannot be edited via triggers`
`03:18.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`:*(`
`03:18.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`well then I'm not sure what to telly eh`
`03:18.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`since I dunno triggers very well Xp`
`03:18.31`	`progammer_`	`DarkRevenant: when you change mover by trigger, did you use catalogue value set ?`
`03:19.22`	`DarkRevenant`	`what in the hell`
`03:19.33`	`DarkRevenant`	`is catalog value set`
`03:20.25`	`progammer_`	`its to change some unit value that cant be changed at realtime`
`03:20.34`	`progammer_`	`so what did you do to change mover ?`
`03:21.37`	`DarkRevenant`	`actor message`
`03:22.05`	`Vulfe`	`yarrrr`
`03:22.11`	`DarkRevenant`	`oh what the FUCK`
`03:22.22`	`DarkRevenant`	`the actor messages apply to site movers`
`03:22.27`	`DarkRevenant`	`but they didn't work at ALL when I used them`
`03:22.37`	`DarkRevenant`	`no, movers cannot be set at realtime`
`03:22.42`	`DarkRevenant`	`site movers can`
`03:22.47`	`DarkRevenant`	`but rotation is not changeable`
`03:22.49`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RaydenUni (~rayden@76.91.184.133)`
`03:22.52`	`progammer_`	`hmm what about collide ?`
`03:23.07`	`DarkRevenant`	`collision size`
`03:23.09`	`DarkRevenant`	`I don't know`
`03:23.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`rotation can be at 20fps for all i care`
`03:23.23`	`DarkRevenant`	`the movement itself though...`
`03:23.33`	`DarkRevenant`	`how`
`03:23.41`	`DarkRevenant`	`how does one`
`03:23.49`	`DarkRevenant`	`attach a site mover to another actor?`
`03:24.29`	`progammer_`	`my brain cease to function whenever i see actor :(`
`03:24.59`	`DarkRevenant`	`...`
`03:25.04`	`DarkRevenant`	`ffs am i really the first person to try this`
`03:26.01`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Terin (~Terin@c-98-220-198-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net)`
`03:26.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`No`
`03:26.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But you're doing it with Triggers and you want variable values`
`03:26.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`which lies outside of skillset`
`03:27.12`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`bah`
`03:27.17`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`where am i wrong`
`03:27.34`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`I utilized the aura tutorial to do this, but I must be missing something`
`03:31.22`	`*** join/#sc2mapster th15 (~t@cm118.kappa174.maxonline.com.sg)`
`03:31.56`	`DarkRevenant`	`hmm`
`03:32.03`	`DarkRevenant`	`I might have found some kind of solution`
`03:32.12`	`DarkRevenant`	`for the movement`
`03:32.17`	`DarkRevenant`	`rotation can stay at 20fps for all i care`
`03:33.47`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Cintiq (~cintiq@182-239-130-96.ip.adam.com.au)`
`03:34.57`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`wuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah`
`03:35.24`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`Im not really sure where the breakdown is`
`03:38.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Terin (~Terin@c-98-220-198-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net)`
`03:42.22`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Shawn_ (~chatzilla@96.26.230.223)`
`03:49.25`	`Mephs`	`hay`
`03:49.26`	`Mephs`	`hey`
`03:49.28`	`Mephs`	`i'm on irc`
`03:50.07`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`well thats unfortunate`
`03:51.07`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`oi`
`03:51.10`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`nothing is working`
`03:53.10`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`Behavior.GlowStartBuff.Create should trigger, when I add 1 GlowStartBuff (Behavior) to (unit that has actor with that event) right?`
`03:53.11`	`slightlyrandom`	`If life gives you nothing, do nothing`
`03:53.41`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`life gives you nothing other than eventual death`
`03:53.44`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`life sucks`
`03:53.45`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`:p`
`03:53.56`	`slightlyrandom`	`Isnt there a Behavior.X.On or Exists or something ?`
`03:54.04`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`.On is available`
`03:55.03`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`wuahhh`
`03:55.23`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`but nothing happens even if I do Behavior.GlowStartBuff.(any)`
`03:55.31`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`I set a print message for debugging`
`03:55.39`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`but nothing happens`
`03:55.53`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`when I use the Add 1 GlowStartBuff to Unit`
`03:55.56`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`trigger`
`03:56.06`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`will it simply not work like that?`
`03:56.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`try enabling the behavior for the unit in the editor`
`03:56.31`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`so add the behavior to the unit initially?`
`03:56.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`yeah`
`03:56.47`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`how do I turn the behavior on or off?`
`03:56.55`	`slightlyrandom`	`also, you can check if the behavior is on the unit by seeing if there is an icon on it`
`03:57.03`	`slightlyrandom`	`Unless you checked "Hidden"`
`03:57.17`	`slightlyrandom`	`Unit -> Behavior - Behavior - Behavior`
`03:57.43`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`well I know how to add the behavior`
`03:57.51`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`but once the behavior runs its initial duration`
`03:57.55`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`how do I activate it again?`
`03:58.04`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`can I do that with a trigger?`
`03:58.51`	`slightlyrandom`	`Well, you can do it with abilities and all that stuf`
`03:59.04`	`slightlyrandom`	`But, really`
`03:59.12`	`slightlyrandom`	`It's quite easily testable, is it not?`
`03:59.27`	`slightlyrandom`	`Pick all units and add behavior Stimpack`
`03:59.29`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`well I am currently using a trigger to add that specific behavior to the unit`
`03:59.41`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`but the event doesn't trigger on the actor`
`03:59.44`	`slightlyrandom`	`or whatever`
`04:00.41`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`as far as I can tell I'm doing it correctly`
`04:01.23`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`ooooh`
`04:01.25`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`interesting`
`04:01.31`	`slightlyrandom`	`Rule: If it ain't working, you're doing something wrong`
`04:01.39`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`if I add the behvaior to the unit in the data editor, it works`
`04:01.47`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`but adding the behavior with a trigger doesn't`
`04:03.02`	`slightlyrandom`	`So, does the behaviors effect apply when you add it with a trigger ?`
`04:03.23`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`no`
`04:04.01`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`oh wait, it kinda works`
`04:04.11`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`I think I'm on the right track`
`04:04.58`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Creation (46f682ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.246.130.186)`
`04:07.11`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`incidently, the prints don't work`
`04:07.44`	`slightlyrandom`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0sOCl9lV60`
`04:07.55`	`slightlyrandom`	`Love that way of making music`
`04:17.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (~skizot@246-183.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com)`
`04:19.23`	`Mephs`	`wow first time no one left in a full 5v5 on my map`
`04:19.28`	`Mephs`	`pretty epic`
`04:24.43`	`ZarafFaraz`	`nice`
`04:27.51`	`Mephs`	`i'm a huge fan of that guy's alice video`
`04:27.58`	`Mephs`	`amazing work he does`
`04:30.12`	`*** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~Christoph@uawifi-nat-210-24.arizona.edu)`
`04:31.03`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Foxor (~Megalon@d86-32-5-113.cust.tele2.at)`
`04:33.11`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kalekin (~nnscript@41-132-124-10.dsl.mweb.co.za)`
`04:35.51`	`Skizot`	`i want to hump triceron.`
`04:36.26`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`if I use a search area, will it pick the originating unit aswell?`
`04:36.40`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MysT_DooM (~MysT_DooM@ool-44c48774.dyn.optonline.net)`
`04:41.09`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`wuag, I can't do this`
`04:45.55`	`ZarafFaraz`	`what Alice video?`
`04:48.44`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Pshyched (cb3b336f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.59.51.111)`
`04:58.26`	`Skizot`	`http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/?action=view&current=Contra_Arnie_v1.jpg`
`05:00.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster bdnbaidt (4b9b6c91@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.155.108.145)`
`05:01.10`	`bdnbaidt`	`anyone here?`
`05:01.15`	`Skizot`	`nope`
`05:01.34`	`bdnbaidt`	`well i need to no if its possible to unresearch upgrades via triggers`
`05:01.46`	`bdnbaidt`	`or how to make an item that makes a unit cliff jump`
`05:02.04`	`bdnbaidt`	`and change mover back to ground as it unequips the item`
`05:12.39`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`anoyne know if the actor print message works?`
`05:17.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster currydevil (currydevil@96.39.180.160)`
`05:32.18`	`ReckeD\|away`	`Anyone on NA up for playtesting thrones?`
`05:35.18`	`ReckeD\|away`	`dont all jump at once now`
`05:35.21`	`ReckeD\|away`	`=P`
`05:40.46`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Twiner\|Inlaws (~Vern_Mitc@c-98-229-44-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)`
`05:46.54`	`Mephs`	`er`
`05:46.56`	`Mephs`	`whats the validator for`
`05:47.00`	`Mephs`	`cliff delta`
`05:47.17`	`Mephs`	`locaion compare cliff level only compares a one-way check`
`05:47.39`	`Mephs`	`i want to validate the ground height diff between the caster and target basically`
`05:56.37`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Resinate (~IceChat7@c-24-16-10-232.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)`
`05:56.41`	`Resinate`	`guys i need help`
`05:56.49`	`Resinate`	`the new ai system is all broken in the editor`
`05:56.58`	`Resinate`	`how do i make this flagged insane`
`05:56.59`	`Resinate`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:57.08`	`Resinate`	`cuz brutal is only equal to very hard`
`05:57.34`	`Resinate`	`or is the flag insane in game lobby in sc2 broken?`
`05:58.10`	`Resinate`	`i guess this forum finally died`
`06:00.19`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Zarafu (~ZarafFara@d198-166-2-242.abhsia.telus.net)`
`06:03.43`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ahmaz (~chatzilla@ppp118-208-27-64.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net)`
`06:05.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ZarafFaraz (~ZarafFara@d198-166-2-242.abhsia.telus.net)`
`06:30.35`	`currydevil`	`WTB Ursadak attack animations ...`
`06:36.14`	`Fisker`	`gentlemen`
`06:37.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`are old`
`06:41.57`	`currydevil`	`Blah, Ursadaks have no attack animation that I can find`
`06:42.05`	`currydevil`	`at least, the females dont`
`06:42.29`	`Creation`	`is there a way to hotkey screen buttons without using the "player pushes button" trig?`
`06:42.52`	`currydevil`	`lawl, "angry eyes" animation. that's awesome`
`06:44.27`	`Creation`	`does that work for any unit currydevil?`
`06:45.27`	`currydevil`	`I dunno, i didn't try. Just saw it in the list`
`06:45.37`	`currydevil`	`but ... Ursadaks have no attack anim :(`
`06:45.46`	`Creation`	`ik :/`
`06:45.48`	`currydevil`	`I have to redo my first quest mob now.`
`06:46.01`	`Creation`	`it worked for the ursakak though?`
`06:46.02`	`currydevil`	`or see if the male has an attack.....`
`06:46.09`	`currydevil`	`no, i didn't try it`
`06:46.13`	`Creation`	`ah kk`
`06:46.14`	`Mephs`	`hrm`
`06:46.32`	`Mephs`	`what would cause my map to disappear from "show new only"`
`06:46.35`	`currydevil`	`i got my medic to shoot purple lightning lasers though =P`
`06:46.37`	`Mephs`	`but sotis is still on the new list`
`06:46.45`	`Mephs`	`and i just updated too`
`06:47.18`	`currydevil`	`lmao, Sad eyes, serious eyes and surprise eyes too.`
`06:47.25`	`currydevil`	`I would imagine their for the stroy mode actors...`
`06:47.32`	`Creation`	`yeah probably`
`06:47.56`	`Creation`	`You guys know what a good lighting setting is for a really dramating effect?`
`06:48.02`	`Creation`	`I dont feel like testing all these..`
`06:48.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (~Raziel@95.76.133.23)`
`06:49.42`	`currydevil`	`Well that's just dumb, now i have to see if the male ursadak has an attack anim`
`06:52.16`	`currydevil`	`that is so disappointing.`
`06:52.24`	`currydevil`	`make ursadak has no attack either.`
`06:52.29`	`currydevil`	`they must be docile mammals`
`06:52.36`	`currydevil`	`silly blizz fail`
`06:52.47`	`Jum-Jum`	`i dont think any neutral unit in a blizzard game ever had any attack animation`
`06:52.54`	`currydevil`	`sure they do`
`06:52.58`	`Jum-Jum`	`like?`
`06:53.03`	`currydevil`	`My Karak has an attack anim, my Urubu attacks`
`06:53.08`	`currydevil`	`my scantipede attacks`
`06:53.12`	`*** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105)`
`06:53.12`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ`
`06:53.15`	`Creation`	`how do you apply lighting to the editor itself?`
`06:53.16`	`currydevil`	`and they are all unique to the model`
`06:53.20`	`currydevil`	`uhhh`
`06:53.33`	`Creation`	`probly a noob question`
`06:53.37`	`currydevil`	`there is lighting in the DE, oneo f Onetwo's tuts shows how to do some lighting`
`06:53.40`	`Creation`	`but ive never done it`
`06:53.50`	`Creation`	`DE?`
`06:53.54`	`Jum-Jum`	`data editor`
`06:53.54`	`currydevil`	`data editor`
`06:54.05`	`Creation`	`ok ill hunt youtube thanks`
`06:54.10`	`currydevil`	`I think it's his vote/creep trail/ something else tut`
`06:54.18`	`currydevil`	`it has 3 diff things in it`
`06:54.26`	`currydevil`	`and one of them is making a ling spawn a creep trail`
`06:55.11`	`currydevil`	`ok, testing all other critter models before i get to making each one and finding out they don't do a darn thing`
`06:55.48`	`onetwo`	`me?`
`06:55.57`	`currydevil`	`yes you./`
`06:56.01`	`onetwo`	`ingame cinematic tutorial part 1 around 8:50`
`06:56.04`	`onetwo`	`i show how to do custom lighting`
`06:56.08`	`onetwo`	`in data editor`
`06:56.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it's a lie`
`06:56.28`	`onetwo`	`you can cross reference it with google maps, its the truth`
`06:56.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it's around 8:51`
`06:56.29`	`Jum-Jum`	`8:50?`
`06:57.24`	`Jum-Jum`	`but its almost 9, onetwo is living in the past`
`06:57.29`	`currydevil`	`Yay! Lyotes have attack animations`
`06:57.30`	`onetwo`	`8m:50s`
`06:57.36`	`onetwo`	`yeah some critters do`
`06:57.37`	`onetwo`	`thankfully`
`06:57.43`	`currydevil`	`Ursadak do not! cry`
`06:57.57`	`currydevil`	`now i'll have to use a bloody ultralisk`
`06:58.31`	`Jum-Jum`	`dont hate the ultra :(`
`07:00.22`	`currydevil`	`i'm trying to avoid too many zerg units until a certain point in my map`
`07:00.40`	`currydevil`	`so the critters come in handy, and the more that can attack, the better`
`07:03.22`	`currydevil`	`Even the automaton 2000 attacks!`
`07:03.25`	`currydevil`	`yay`
`07:03.34`	`currydevil`	`now i need to find the lava crab`
`07:03.50`	`Jum-Jum`	`what map are you making?`
`07:04.16`	`Jum-Jum`	`you remind me of this map where everyone spawned as like the tinyest critter in the game, and then they ate other critters (npcs and players), until they grew and grew`
`07:04.22`	`Jum-Jum`	`andin the end they were suppose to be the only player alive`
`07:04.25`	`Jum-Jum`	`it was a pretty fun map`
`07:05.07`	`currydevil`	`well, no that's not my map`
`07:05.24`	`currydevil`	`it's an rpg, but i was trying to avoid zerg contact up until a certain area`
`07:05.30`	`currydevil`	`and then the zerg presence grows`
`07:05.45`	`Jum-Jum`	`ah`
`07:05.45`	`currydevil`	`because every rpg uses zerg...`
`07:05.47`	`currydevil`	`I mean, I wll to`
`07:05.56`	`currydevil`	`but how many use the critters?`
`07:06.10`	`currydevil`	`(not counting other models from WoW or elsewhere)`
`07:06.20`	`currydevil`	`because those will prob be at a minimum too if any`
`07:07.55`	`currydevil`	`Ok, so Ursadak and laval crab do not have attack animations`
`07:07.58`	`currydevil`	`but that's ok`
`07:08.02`	`currydevil`	`Lava*`
`07:08.16`	`currydevil`	`lava crabs look cool enough to just have running around`
`07:10.17`	`currydevil`	`Oo the dog attacks too, but has no portrait.`
`07:25.07`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DarkPrince (~DarkPrinc@adsl-76-241-70-89.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net)`
`07:25.24`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@2002:4406:65f3:0:21f:5bff:fecf:375)`
`07:30.17`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Sevenix (pheonix@c-83-233-149-13.cust.bredband2.com)`
`07:36.03`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Dekar (~Dekar@p4FCEDC44.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`07:39.34`	`*** join/#sc2mapster C-H (~blah@c-24-10-213-64.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)`
`07:40.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster sugoi (~ryan@c-76-23-5-2.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)`
`07:40.35`	`sugoi`	`hello fellow editors`
`07:40.56`	`sugoi`	`i've been out of the sc2 arena for a couple weeks now (work, travel) -- came back to see a new patch`
`07:41.14`	`sugoi`	`was reading about it, i bet you guys are stoked about the new triggers and event support they just added`
`07:45.26`	`onetwo`	`?`
`07:47.01`	`Mephs`	`i thought when you update your map it refresh it on the "show new" list`
`07:49.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`somethign is seriously wrong with me`
`07:49.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I swear I'm going to die from water`
`07:49.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I've had 4 glasses of water in <5min`
`07:50.07`	`sugoi`	`onetwo: for example, i saw more events for when a player leaves the game`
`07:50.08`	`sugoi`	`also...`
`07:50.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I finished a glass, went to get a glass, got distracted and drank a glass, so I had to refill, drank it immediately for no reason, then refilled`
`07:50.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I then brought it in here`
`07:50.17`	`sugoi`	`slider control supported now`
`07:50.19`	`sugoi`	`and,`
`07:50.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and finished it before I sat down`
`07:50.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm going to die`
`07:50.29`	`onetwo`	`oh yeah the player leave the game thing is awesome`
`07:50.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it's a sign`
`07:50.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Or ignore me`
`07:50.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Who cares of Proz dies`
`07:50.51`	`sugoi`	`oh now i can't remember...`
`07:50.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`he's unimportant`
`07:50.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`dies`
`07:51.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`is ignored and forgotten`
`07:51.23`	`sugoi`	`onetwo: there were a few things i just read that i - oh yeah, you can now put a chance (%) on effects`
`07:51.52`	`sugoi`	`i must be tired...my brain can't remember 99% of what i read about 60 seconds ago`
`07:53.01`	`onetwo`	`no one cares PM`
`07:53.02`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`07:54.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ka[L]ekin (~Ka_L_ekin@dsl-240-79-224.telkomadsl.co.za)`
`07:54.46`	`Mephs`	`well`
`07:55.07`	`Mephs`	`while you're dying from water poisoning i'll be downstairs blazing my ass off all night`
`07:55.35`	`ZarafFaraz`	`lol`
`08:00.33`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tordy_ (62745298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.116.82.152)`
`08:00.35`	`Tordy_`	`hey`
`08:00.47`	`Tordy_`	`wait how is nexus word wars being hacked?`
`08:01.49`	`Tordy_`	`oh he's replacing the banks w/ his messages?`
`08:01.54`	`Tordy_`	`how does he do that though?`
`08:02.00`	`Tordy_`	`is it because rodrigo uses a viral bank thing?`
`08:02.07`	`jorgenpt`	`Probably, yes.`
`08:02.07`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@69.57.184.216)`
`08:02.18`	`Tordy_`	`so he sets his score to be the highest and then changes the string to his message?`
`08:02.33`	`Tordy_`	`http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/7/798/bounty2.png`
`08:02.35`	`Tordy_`	`yea it makes sense`
`08:02.36`	`Tordy_`	`they're all 350`
`08:02.43`	`ekcolnovkol`	`lol@rodrigo`
`08:02.53`	`Tordy_`	`oh man for a moment i thought bountywas really hacking it`
`08:03.06`	`Tordy_`	`but it was just a simple abuse of rodrigo's viral bank system`
`08:03.34`	`Tordy_`	`hi ekcolnovkol! :4`
`08:03.36`	`ZarafFaraz`	`lol wouldn't that make people NOT want to play the map that is being advertised?`
`08:03.44`	`Tordy_`	`maybe`
`08:03.50`	`ZarafFaraz`	`like "omfg that loser hacked the game. I'm not gonna play his map now."`
`08:05.18`	`Sevenix`	`ffs I still cant find my published singleplayer map on b.net =/`
`08:05.22`	`Sevenix`	`only under "my published"`
`08:05.25`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Gohla (~user@53543F60.cable.casema.nl)`
`08:06.44`	`Tordy_`	`http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/7/831/Capture.PNG`
`08:06.48`	`Tordy_`	`ok im guessing it's not bounty`
`08:06.56`	`Tordy_`	`or maybe it is!`
`08:06.58`	`Tordy_`	`reverse psychology!`
`08:06.59`	`Tordy_`	`argh`
`08:07.25`	`Tordy_`	`the hacker wants rodrigo to know bounty is the hacker`
`08:07.28`	`Tordy_`	`BUT`
`08:07.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RaydenUni (~rayden@adsl-69-231-124-208.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net)`
`08:07.42`	`Tordy_`	`bounty might pretend to be the hacker that wants rodrigo to know bounty is the hacker!`
`08:07.43`	`Tordy_`	`jdfklsjfkl`
`08:07.58`	`Tordy_`	`fuel the tension`
`08:08.09`	`Tordy_`	`the hacker knows rodrigo and bounty dont get along`
`08:08.15`	`Tordy_`	`how does he know?`
`08:08.17`	`Tordy_`	`HE IS ONE OF US`
`08:08.19`	`ZarafFaraz`	`who is Bounty?`
`08:08.21`	`Tordy_`	`FUCK`
`08:08.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (~skizot@246-183.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com)`
`08:08.50`	`Tordy_`	`he made some cool third person maps`
`08:08.56`	`ZarafFaraz`	`which ones?`
`08:09.03`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Doodad Hunt?`
`08:09.04`	`Tordy_`	`planetary boss`
`08:09.07`	`Tordy_`	`a hide & seek one`
`08:09.14`	`Tordy_`	`i think he made doodad hunt too`
`08:09.26`	`ZarafFaraz`	`doodad hunt IS the hide and seek one :P`
`08:09.30`	`Tordy_`	`ho`
`08:09.31`	`Tordy_`	`oh]`
`08:09.32`	`Tordy_`	`oik`
`08:09.38`	`ekcolnovkol`	`rodrigo's bank system makes me laugh every time`
`08:09.44`	`Tordy_`	`;O`
`08:09.45`	`Tordy_`	`why?`
`08:09.46`	`ekcolnovkol`	`he's too insistent on everyone knowing who's the best`
`08:09.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`but I'm the best`
`08:10.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`so he doesn't need to bother`
`08:10.05`	`Tordy_`	`i didnt actually the map online in public yet`
`08:10.05`	`ekcolnovkol`	`global rankings aren't very useful :P`
`08:10.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster norathem (4ff0d234@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.240.210.52)`
`08:10.09`	`Tordy_`	`so im not sure exactly how it works`
`08:10.13`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@69.57.184.216)`
`08:10.22`	`ekcolnovkol`	`it's easy`
`08:10.23`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I didn't find Bounty's Planetary Bosses to be too impressive`
`08:10.24`	`Tordy_`	`it's simply viral?`
`08:10.27`	`ekcolnovkol`	`yeah`
`08:10.29`	`ekcolnovkol`	`that's it`
`08:10.29`	`Tordy_`	`so it's "local" rankings`
`08:10.30`	`ZarafFaraz`	`they all seemd to do the same sort of generic things`
`08:10.39`	`Tordy_`	`in some sense "local" based on everyone you meet`
`08:10.48`	`Tordy_`	`won't it hit a hitch though?`
`08:10.58`	`Tordy_`	`due to limits`
`08:11.02`	`ZarafFaraz`	`and the whole third person view is extremely flawed....major clipping issues with the camera, and just overall awkwardness`
`08:11.08`	`ekcolnovkol`	`it's inaccurate, and doesn't do much for anyone`
`08:11.14`	`ekcolnovkol`	`it's simply viral`
`08:11.15`	`ekcolnovkol`	`lol`
`08:11.27`	`Tordy_`	`how does he store the names>`
`08:11.29`	`Tordy_`	`?`
`08:11.41`	`ekcolnovkol`	`he has a bank of "10 highest ranked players you've met"`
`08:11.45`	`ekcolnovkol`	`that's all`
`08:11.54`	`Tordy_`	`are there any names>`
`08:12.04`	`ekcolnovkol`	`i believe so`
`08:12.15`	`Tordy_`	`how'd he retrieve the names as a string?`
`08:12.25`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`You can just retrieve them through triggers`
`08:12.30`	`Tordy_`	`but they're text`
`08:12.36`	`Tordy_`	`cant convert text to string`
`08:12.44`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`o.o`
`08:12.55`	`Tordy_`	`unless new patch added something`
`08:13.01`	`ekcolnovkol`	`do it one letter at a time`
`08:13.15`	`Tordy_`	`i thought that wouldn't work either`
`08:13.19`	`Tordy_`	`because you cant even compare`
`08:13.23`	`ekcolnovkol`	`not entirely sure`
`08:13.24`	`Tordy_`	`individual characters`
`08:13.29`	`ekcolnovkol`	`haven't seen the need to save names`
`08:13.34`	`ekcolnovkol`	`what are you going to save people's names for lol`
`08:13.50`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`So you can't.`
`08:13.50`	`Tordy_`	`to use a salt when encrypting banks`
`08:13.52`	`Tordy_`	`iunno`
`08:13.53`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Either way you don't need to`
`08:13.58`	`Tordy_`	`so people cant swap banks`
`08:14.01`	`ekcolnovkol`	`lol`
`08:14.04`	`Tordy_`	`but that's nota big deal now`
`08:14.11`	`Tordy_`	`since people can easily just hack into the map`
`08:14.17`	`Tordy_`	`adn change shit`
`08:14.27`	`ekcolnovkol`	`i haven't seen my map 'haxed' yet`
`08:14.28`	`ekcolnovkol`	`lol`
`08:14.36`	`Tordy_`	`only a matter of time >_>`
`08:14.42`	`ekcolnovkol`	`all i've seen is`
`08:14.51`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Only way to stop hacking is making it so that there is nothing worth hacking.`
`08:14.52`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`>_<`
`08:14.55`	`ekcolnovkol`	`a very early version of my map floating around in the philipines`
`08:14.58`	`Mephs`	`i can't stand any of the 3rd person maps`
`08:15.09`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`You will spend days dreaming up some amazing "encryption" or whatever`
`08:15.10`	`ekcolnovkol`	`and`
`08:15.11`	`Mephs`	`WASD is shit on bnet`
`08:15.13`	`Tordy_`	`well the guy rodrigo is talking about hacked into a locked map and saw the triggers`
`08:15.18`	`ekcolnovkol`	`people changing their ranking to read Kills:BONUS POOP`
`08:15.19`	`Mephs`	`simple as that`
`08:15.23`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`there is no hacking into a locked map`
`08:15.26`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`he just uses an MPQ editor`
`08:15.27`	`Mephs`	`and banks are too easy to crack`
`08:15.31`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`and the trigger file it right there`
`08:15.32`	`ekcolnovkol`	`rodrigo needs to mellow out lol`
`08:15.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It was me`
`08:15.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I hacked it all`
`08:15.46`	`ekcolnovkol`	`ah shit`
`08:15.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I hacked the matrix`
`08:15.51`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I think he is a bit upset because he was touting how amazingly hack proof his map is :P`
`08:15.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm coming for you ekco`
`08:15.56`	`ekcolnovkol`	`I CLIPPED MY NAILS TOO FAR IN`
`08:15.56`	`Mephs`	`TBQH both of their maps are kinda 'meh'`
`08:15.58`	`Tordy_`	`:[`
`08:15.59`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`And it got hacked about 2 hous later`
`08:16.00`	`ekcolnovkol`	`THE PAINN`
`08:16.00`	`Mephs`	`NWW is kinda fun but`
`08:16.02`	`Mephs`	`yea`
`08:16.05`	`Tordy_`	`dont go for ekcolnovkol :[`
`08:16.07`	`Tordy_`	`he's too cute`
`08:16.10`	`ekcolnovkol`	`screams in pain`
`08:16.14`	`Tordy_`	`hi ProzaicMuze`
`08:16.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`psh`
`08:16.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`he's not cute at all`
`08:16.22`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Don't waste your time trying to "hack proof" your banks`
`08:16.32`	`Tordy_`	`you got a grudge on him because he's cuter than you!?`
`08:16.36`	`Mephs`	`encryption is easy to crack if you can read the encryption code`
`08:16.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I figure if I make my maps worth hacking, that's a compliment rather than something to complain about.`
`08:16.47`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`do some basic obfuscation that it going to prevent someone from just changing values`
`08:16.55`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`beyond that, you're wasting your time`
`08:17.03`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`you spend 5 days working on something, they spend 5 hours`
`08:17.05`	`Mephs`	`the point of encryption is that you can't see the method in which it is encrypted`
`08:17.13`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Which is not possible :P`
`08:17.15`	`Mephs`	`if its publically visible to the whole fucking world its kinda pointless eh?`
`08:17.18`	`ekcolnovkol`	`i think you guys have different ideas of what they mean by 'hacking'`
`08:17.21`	`ekcolnovkol`	`lol`
`08:17.27`	`ekcolnovkol`	`or rather`
`08:17.32`	`ekcolnovkol`	`what exactly is being 'hacked'`
`08:17.34`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Untill they have a way of encrypting your trigger file, don't bother`
`08:17.50`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`ekcol, how so?`
`08:17.53`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`We are talking about bank files?`
`08:18.21`	`Mephs`	`no bank files`
`08:18.28`	`Mephs`	`cuz basically`
`08:18.30`	`Mephs`	`anyone can open the map`
`08:18.35`	`Mephs`	`see the code for encryption`
`08:18.38`	`Mephs`	`and just reverse engineer it`
`08:18.45`	`Mephs`	`not hard`
`08:18.54`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Like I said, spend 5 minutes obfuscating it so that 99% of the people who look at it can't do anything`
`08:19.01`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`because they will be too lazy to go further`
`08:19.05`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`anything beyond that is a waste`
`08:19.09`	`Mephs`	`no clearly you just need`
`08:19.14`	`Mephs`	`200 mathematical equations`
`08:19.34`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`but of course`
`08:19.35`	`Mephs`	`there's no such thing as hack-proof encryption`
`08:19.42`	`Tordy_`	`what is he talkin about`
`08:19.42`	`Tordy_`	`xd`
`08:19.50`	`Tordy_`	`200 equations what`
`08:19.54`	`Tordy_`	`sounds so pretentious`
`08:19.54`	`Mephs`	`nothin lol`
`08:20.02`	`Mephs`	`something he said on the forums`
`08:20.41`	`Tordy_`	`you could have a 10000+ line code just for encryption and it wouldn't mean shit`
`08:20.44`	`Tordy_`	`in the case for sc2 maps`
`08:21.00`	`Tordy_`	`hi Mephs`
`08:21.01`	`Tordy_`	`:4`
`08:21.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`what about the forums?`
`08:21.28`	`Tordy_`	`booberlisk`
`08:21.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`eww`
`08:22.33`	`Mephs`	`hi tordy`
`08:22.41`	`Mephs`	`10000 lines of code`
`08:22.48`	`Mephs`	`someone can write 10 lines of code to reverse engineer it`
`08:22.53`	`Mephs`	`:p`
`08:23.14`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I hate deciphering this editor. sigh`
`08:23.22`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`when is blizzard going to open up that bloody wiki`
`08:23.27`	`Mephs`	`"soon"`
`08:23.29`	`Mephs`	`tm`
`08:23.31`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`;/`
`08:23.47`	`Mephs`	`is there any legit way to bump a map faster`
`08:23.58`	`Mephs`	`that doesn't involve gimmicky shit ilke 5 minute enrage timers on the entire game`
`08:24.01`	`Mephs`	`w/ 2 player slots`
`08:24.06`	`Mephs`	`for a 5v5 game?`
`08:24.07`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`uhm`
`08:24.16`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`no`
`08:24.17`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`:p`
`08:24.28`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Advertise?`
`08:24.32`	`Mephs`	`did.`
`08:24.38`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Where?`
`08:24.44`	`Mephs`	`bnet, sc2m`
`08:24.46`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`TLQ gets some nice hits`
`08:24.50`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`can try there`
`08:24.50`	`Mephs`	`teamliquid wont let me post it for 5 days`
`08:24.54`	`Mephs`	`cuz apparently idiots spam them`
`08:25.09`	`Mephs`	`so there's a waiting period lol`
`08:25.19`	`ZarafFaraz`	`how big is teamliqiud?`
`08:25.19`	`Tordy_`	`make a bot!`
`08:25.22`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`How does a hatchery consistently spawn larva? :/`
`08:25.34`	`Mephs`	`1 bot doesn't add much`
`08:25.37`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I only see one spawn larva behaviour`
`08:25.38`	`Tordy_`	`ZarafFaraz: largest sc community`
`08:25.48`	`Tordy_`	`one of them`
`08:25.49`	`Mephs`	`even if i could sit and spam the game 24/7 it'd only make like`
`08:25.54`	`Mephs`	`200 plays`
`08:25.56`	`Tordy_`	`give it to me too!`
`08:25.59`	`Tordy_`	`i'll help ya!`
`08:26.00`	`Tordy_`	`:]`
`08:26.08`	`Tordy_`	`and give it to ProzaicMuze`
`08:26.10`	`Tordy_`	`he'll help too`
`08:26.11`	`Mephs`	`and now its no longer on the "new map" list`
`08:26.12`	`Tordy_`	`and otixa!`
`08:26.15`	`Tordy_`	`:[`
`08:26.16`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`aaah, nm`
`08:26.18`	`Mephs`	`so now its going to tank in pop`
`08:26.27`	`Mephs`	`went from 293 to 201 in 2 hrs`
`08:26.33`	`Tordy_`	`Mephs don't give up!`
`08:26.36`	`Mephs`	`lol`
`08:26.48`	`Mephs`	`i really wish they'd fix the damn popularity thing`
`08:27.24`	`Tordy_`	`guess one way to help is if blizz features your map`
`08:27.31`	`Tordy_`	`which i'd say is quite likely`
`08:27.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`wait what am I helping with?`
`08:27.38`	`Tordy_`	`since yours is definately the best of the lot`
`08:27.40`	`Mephs`	`they dont feature maps anymore idun think`
`08:27.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I feel like I was just volunteered against my will`
`08:27.46`	`Tordy_`	`:[`
`08:27.52`	`Mephs`	`or i haven't seen any featured in a while`
`08:27.59`	`Tordy_`	`blizz is just lazy atm`
`08:28.06`	`Tordy_`	`like they always were xd`
`08:28.08`	`Tordy_`	`doh`
`08:28.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster madsquare (~Admin@HSI-KBW-078-042-166-200.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de)`
`08:29.17`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tordy (Tordy@pool-98-116-82-152.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)`
`08:29.26`	`Tordy`	`hi there`
`08:29.27`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Leaderboard (5bb46379@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.99.121)`
`08:29.28`	`Leaderboard`	`Hi everyone :)`
`08:29.30`	`Mephs`	`i need to just make a game that appeals to the mass blob of dummies on bnet`
`08:29.32`	`Tordy`	`hi Leaderboard`
`08:29.42`	`Mephs`	`and not games that emphasize skill, teamwork, or thought`
`08:29.50`	`Leaderboard`	`Ah onetwo, you there ! Your TD is awesome, reaching the peak of maps played on EU Servers :p`
`08:30.07`	`Sevenix`	`I figured why my published map didnt turn up`
`08:30.08`	`onetwo`	`wow really?`
`08:30.10`	`onetwo`	`on US it died`
`08:30.13`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`08:30.17`	`Sevenix`	`I had a published map named the same before, which was private`
`08:30.18`	`onetwo`	`awesome though`
`08:30.19`	`Leaderboard`	`Yeah, just after Nexus Wars`
`08:30.26`	`onetwo`	`im like david hasselhoff`
`08:30.29`	`Sevenix`	`once I removed that the name was locked out from b.net forever.`
`08:30.30`	`Mephs`	`lol`
`08:30.32`	`onetwo`	`EU loves me`
`08:30.35`	`onetwo`	`US is like who?`
`08:30.41`	`Leaderboard`	`I love the unit pathing and the "tower footprint"`
`08:30.55`	`Leaderboard`	`you know, the green, yellow square under your towers`
`08:30.55`	`onetwo`	`i should update my TD lol`
`08:30.58`	`Mephs`	`maybe`
`08:30.58`	`onetwo`	`ive been lazy`
`08:31.00`	`Tordy`	`it was popular on US :4`
`08:31.02`	`onetwo`	`oh yeah`
`08:31.04`	`Leaderboard`	`I wonder how you did that, i'm looking for that for so long`
`08:31.09`	`Mephs`	`you should put as much effort into bumping it as your EU doppleganger 12`
`08:31.10`	`onetwo`	`go ahead and open the map`
`08:31.11`	`Mephs`	`:p`
`08:31.18`	`Tordy`	`hi Mephs`
`08:31.36`	`Leaderboard`	`I did :p i'm looking in your data, but maybe i'm not in the right place :p`
`08:31.41`	`onetwo`	`Drink Splat`
`08:31.43`	`onetwo`	`Bug Splat`
`08:31.48`	`onetwo`	`etc`
`08:31.56`	`Leaderboard`	`oh yeah, in actors ! damn;`
`08:32.01`	`onetwo`	`it also depends on the fact that i set each tower's facing to be 0.0`
`08:32.05`	`onetwo`	`instead of default 315`
`08:33.08`	`Sevenix`	`ok. Warp Prism Control is now available on EU`
`08:33.13`	`Sevenix`	`Enjoy`
`08:33.13`	`ekcolnovkol`	`hey 12`
`08:33.16`	`ekcolnovkol`	`you still have my email right`
`08:33.42`	`Leaderboard`	`Sevenix : I saw your map yesterday. I wanted to try it but my friends won't :(`
`08:34.35`	`onetwo`	`uh i think so?`
`08:34.44`	`onetwo`	`man i wish we had one central map repository`
`08:34.53`	`onetwo`	`its annoying updating my map`
`08:34.56`	`onetwo`	`and having to deal with EU`
`08:35.00`	`onetwo`	`on another acct`
`08:35.14`	`Tordy`	`warp prism control o.o`
`08:35.15`	`Tordy`	`what's that`
`08:35.17`	`currydevil`	`is there a model viewer for wc3 like there is for WoW or can I just export straight from WC3 and into SC2? anyone know`
`08:36.15`	`ekcolnovkol`	`onetwo`
`08:36.20`	`ekcolnovkol`	`email me when you're ready`
`08:36.22`	`ekcolnovkol`	`>:)`
`08:36.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`don't e-mail him`
`08:36.33`	`onetwo`	`?`
`08:36.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`he's evil`
`08:36.36`	`Sevenix`	`Leaderboard really?, i think the b.net messed it up, did you see it on EU or US ?`
`08:36.39`	`ekcolnovkol`	`there's 21 units`
`08:36.41`	`Sevenix`	`its singleplayer btw`
`08:36.44`	`Leaderboard`	`on EU :o`
`08:36.44`	`ekcolnovkol`	`and 6 more on the way`
`08:36.55`	`Leaderboard`	`Maybe I was drunk ? xD`
`08:37.08`	`Leaderboard`	`or someone stoled your idea :p`
`08:37.09`	`Sevenix`	`heh, I was unable to find it in searches before I published it with a new name today`
`08:37.16`	`Sevenix`	`ah well, feedback is apreciated`
`08:37.22`	`Sevenix`	`its my Blizz map contest contribution`
`08:37.24`	`Leaderboard`	`Is it something like warp units between enemy defenses ?`
`08:37.28`	`Sevenix`	`nope`
`08:37.32`	`Leaderboard`	`oh, ok.`
`08:37.39`	`Sevenix`	`its a merge of Overlord/Ground Control/Demigod`
`08:37.45`	`Sevenix`	`nothing more advanced ;P`
`08:38.19`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@uinn-9-93.resnet.ucsc.edu)`
`08:45.43`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`What does the Make Precursor effect do?`
`08:50.22`	`Leaderboard`	`onetwo, you should make a tutorial for splats :p`
`08:50.32`	`onetwo`	`itll be included in my tutorial about the TD`
`08:50.33`	`Leaderboard`	`Even with your data i'm in trouble :p`
`08:50.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster TeddyTeddy (Teddy@adsl-75-26-184-174.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net)`
`08:50.39`	`Leaderboard`	`kk`
`08:54.04`	`Tordy`	`the story about the gay college freshman killing himself over being seen havin sex on the internet`
`08:54.07`	`Tordy`	`really blew up`
`08:55.13`	`onetwo`	`yeah`
`08:55.19`	`onetwo`	`theres TONS of other young suicides`
`08:55.20`	`onetwo`	`that dont go on the news`
`08:55.22`	`onetwo`	`and that one did`
`08:55.39`	`Tordy`	`im guessing it was because he was homosexual`
`08:56.02`	`LordAbyss`	`anyone wanna record my boss fight?`
`08:56.08`	`LordAbyss`	`i know every trick and its not fair`
`08:56.24`	`onetwo`	`but youre the only one who can`
`08:56.27`	`onetwo`	`demo it properly`
`08:56.33`	`LordAbyss`	`lol`
`08:56.33`	`LordAbyss`	`uggh`
`08:57.31`	`Leaderboard`	`I.Hate.Data.`
`08:57.44`	`Tordy`	`i have a feeling that Ravi dude is gonna get so much hate`
`08:57.48`	`Tordy`	`like huge`
`08:58.22`	`LordAbyss`	`who?`
`08:58.57`	`onetwo`	`hes fucked for his whole life`
`08:59.01`	`onetwo`	`no jobs`
`08:59.03`	`onetwo`	`will hire him`
`08:59.03`	`onetwo`	`hah`
`08:59.09`	`LordAbyss`	`lol?`
`08:59.17`	`Tordy`	`yea he's done`
`08:59.23`	`onetwo`	`LOL he suicides because of media`
`08:59.30`	`onetwo`	`thatd be hilarious chain reaction`
`08:59.33`	`onetwo`	`then media suicides`
`08:59.34`	`onetwo`	`because of what it did`
`08:59.35`	`onetwo`	`to him`
`08:59.56`	`onetwo`	`na but suicide is no joke kids`
`09:00.00`	`onetwo`	`stay in school`
`09:00.04`	`Tordy`	`and they're just freshman in rutgers!`
`09:00.12`	`Tordy`	`they were so excited to be in college :[`
`09:00.12`	`onetwo`	`onetwo is not liable for any of the statements made in this channel or on battle.net`
`09:02.13`	`Tordy`	`oh man :(`
`09:03.45`	`ZarafFaraz`	`hey onetwo, you on bnet right now?`
`09:03.52`	`Tehwildcard`	`onetwo`
`09:03.59`	`Tehwildcard`	`I need you to make me a physics engine`
`09:04.08`	`ZarafFaraz`	`lol`
`09:04.10`	`Tehwildcard`	`and I need it done in about an hour`
`09:04.25`	`ZarafFaraz`	`would you like fries with that?`
`09:04.47`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Tehwildcard, are you on US bnet?`
`09:04.56`	`Tehwildcard`	`yeah`
`09:04.57`	`onetwo`	`you SOB tehwildcard`
`09:05.15`	`ZarafFaraz`	`can you both come on bnet for a little bit please? I want to give my boss AI a spin with 4 players`
`09:05.33`	`Tordy`	`i'd come`
`09:05.36`	`Tordy`	`if you were US`
`09:05.38`	`Tordy`	`:[`
`09:05.39`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I am US`
`09:05.45`	`Tordy`	`say what`
`09:06.04`	`ZarafFaraz`	`can you come too then Tordy?`
`09:06.14`	`Tordy`	`can I?`
`09:06.17`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Tehwildcard, onetwo, can you both come as well please?`
`09:06.22`	`Leaderboard`	`haha onetwo, I finally get it working. But you said something about tower's facing, I think it should help me because my squares are not hmm, how to say that in english..not "right"`
`09:06.31`	`Tehwildcard`	`Can you make me a physics engine?`
`09:06.36`	`ZarafFaraz`	`yes, that's what I'm asking you if you can come online :P`
`09:06.44`	`Tordy`	`leaderboard knows how to make physics engines`
`09:06.46`	`Tordy`	`ask him`
`09:06.47`	`ZarafFaraz`	`nope, don't know how...and doesn't SC2 already have a phsyics engine?`
`09:06.48`	`onetwo`	`nice pun, now anyway you need to go into each tower unit`
`09:06.52`	`onetwo`	`and find the facing field`
`09:06.55`	`onetwo`	`and change it from 315 to 0`
`09:06.58`	`onetwo`	`Zaraf: sure in a sex`
`09:06.59`	`onetwo`	`sec`
`09:07.01`	`onetwo`	`well sex too`
`09:07.05`	`Tordy`	`gross`
`09:07.10`	`Leaderboard`	`allright onetwo, thanks for the help`
`09:07.15`	`ZarafFaraz`	`k thanks`
`09:07.16`	`Tehwildcard`	`onetwo`
`09:07.21`	`ZarafFaraz`	`hey Leaderboard`
`09:07.22`	`Tehwildcard`	`lets make: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNNzRyd1xz0`
`09:07.25`	`ZarafFaraz`	`are you on US bnet?`
`09:07.33`	`Leaderboard`	`No, i'm EU`
`09:07.35`	`ZarafFaraz`	`ok`
`09:07.42`	`onetwo`	`alright im done here`
`09:07.42`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`09:07.47`	`Tehwildcard`	`12`
`09:07.48`	`Tehwildcard`	`dont be gay`
`09:08.26`	`Tordy`	`so waht am i doing`
`09:08.37`	`onetwo`	`k coming ingame`
`09:08.55`	`ZarafFaraz`	`k`
`09:09.03`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Tordy, are you going to come on bnet?`
`09:09.16`	`Tordy`	`yup`
`09:10.02`	`Leaderboard`	`sorry once again onetwo, but I modified facing from 270 to 0 and it stills doesn't works :p. Maybe that wasn't the right facing :o`
`09:10.27`	`onetwo`	`you brought in the right model from my map right?`
`09:10.30`	`onetwo`	`then actor`
`09:10.35`	`onetwo`	`then facing of unit`
`09:10.37`	`onetwo`	`afk`
`09:12.10`	`LordAbyss`	`bah`
`09:12.15`	`LordAbyss`	`i did my own commentary`
`09:12.21`	`LordAbyss`	`you guys get to hear my lovely voice`
`09:12.23`	`LordAbyss`	`at 2 in the morning`
`09:12.32`	`*** join/#sc2mapster vjeux (52e9ed5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.233.237.91)`
`09:12.32`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o vjeux] by ChanServ`
`09:12.46`	`LordAbyss`	`vjeux did it`
`09:12.51`	`vjeux`	`hey`
`09:12.55`	`vjeux`	`what did i do?`
`09:12.55`	`LordAbyss`	`hello`
`09:12.58`	`LordAbyss`	`i don't know`
`09:13.04`	`LordAbyss`	`we have been saying that for the past week`
`09:13.15`	`LordAbyss`	`and vegas froze on me`
`09:13.16`	`LordAbyss`	`:(`
`09:13.22`	`LordAbyss`	`i just wanna compile my commentary`
`09:14.20`	`LordAbyss`	`i did my own recording for my map :)`
`09:15.31`	`*** join/#sc2mapster anteevy (~anteevy@dslb-088-067-120-092.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`09:16.40`	`LordAbyss`	`gnight everyone, i will post it up tomorrow`
`09:16.43`	`LordAbyss`	`:)`
`09:18.28`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Pierrot (Pierrot@ARennes-256-1-47-51.w90-32.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`09:18.51`	`Pierrot`	`Ah finally i made it to join this channel`
`09:19.04`	`Pierrot`	`just installed mirc for the first time`
`09:19.47`	`Pierrot`	`Does the web Irc doesnt work for you too ?`
`09:21.47`	`Pierrot`	`Any Civ player and or any space civ game (Sins of a solar empire, Galciv etc...) available for a little interview ?`
`09:29.45`	`onetwo`	`web irc is fine for me`
`09:31.00`	`Tordy`	`hi ekc`
`09:31.24`	`ZarafFaraz`	`glad you guys liked the fight, even if it was a bit hard :P lol`
`09:32.09`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`09:32.25`	`Jum-Jum`	`Interview?`
`09:32.30`	`Pierrot`	`i get a 404 when i click on the link on the main page of sc2mapster`
`09:32.42`	`Pierrot`	`i m using Chrome if it might help`
`09:32.58`	`Tordy`	`i think i found ekcolnovkol's secret map!`
`09:39.39`	`ZarafFaraz`	`ok, buffed the heroes quite a bit, and reduced some of the boss' AI....anyone want another go on the boss? :)`
`09:39.52`	`ZarafFaraz`	`also, random heroes are fixed now too`
`09:40.04`	`ZarafFaraz`	`so we all shouldn't be the same hero lol`
`09:40.37`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Pierrot, Jum-Jum, are you both on US bnet?`
`09:41.24`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Tordy, you up for another go?`
`09:41.31`	`ZarafFaraz`	`will be easier now ;)`
`09:42.13`	`*** join/#sc2mapster liq3 (~liquidman@ppp118-209-235-57.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net)`
`09:42.30`	`ZarafFaraz`	`hey liq3`
`09:44.59`	`Tordy`	`i have no idea what happened and how i fixed the AI`
`09:45.03`	`Tordy`	`maybe the new patch fixed it`
`09:51.33`	`liq3`	`ZarafFaraz: what?`
`09:53.36`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Run the test map and type "done" in the chat.`
`09:53.40`	`ZarafFaraz`
`09:53.44`	`ZarafFaraz`	`whoops`
`10:02.46`	`*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210)`
`10:06.13`	`*** join/#sc2mapster thenk (nk@124-169-127-115.dyn.iinet.net.au)`
`10:10.17`	`thenk`	`figured out nice attributes system with Learn ability`
`10:13.21`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Tordy (Tordy@pool-98-116-82-152.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)`
`10:13.43`	`liq3`	`so`
`10:13.46`	`liq3`	`does SC2 have dota yet?`
`10:24.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster harl (harl@dslb-088-076-043-225.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`10:24.43`	`harl`	`hi there`
`10:25.41`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Vortexx_ (48b15fcc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.177.95.204)`
`10:26.42`	`Vortexx_`	`hey everyone`
`10:27.02`	`Vortexx_`	`does anyone know if there is a way to make it so an ability cost more than one level up point to learn?`
`10:39.55`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Lasion (~las@190.84-48-192.nextgentel.com)`
`10:42.37`	`*** join/#sc2mapster EternalWraith (c636cab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.54.202.182)`
`10:43.58`	`thenk`	`my publishes are stuck at 0% :/`
`10:44.38`	`EternalWraith`	`Search the forums. Plenty of info on that. Probably variants or invalid player colors at work`
`10:48.24`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Dekar (~Dekar@p4FCEAA66.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`10:54.40`	`*** join/#sc2mapster TheAlmaity (bc816e50@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.129.110.80)`
`10:54.56`	`TheAlmaity`	`hey guys, anything interesting going on?`
`10:55.27`	`TheAlmaity`	`ill take that as a no...`
`10:59.27`	`Creation`	`SHIT`
`10:59.30`	`Creation`	`im getting strep`
`10:59.38`	`Creation`	`from that fuckin applejuice`
`10:59.58`	`Creation`	`anything you can buy over the counter if you catch it early?`
`11:00.40`	`Creation`	`oh yeah this isnt an MD chatroom`
`11:01.07`	`EternalWraith`	`Drink more applejuice ;p`
`11:05.24`	`thenk`	`i need some help testing on NA`
`11:07.07`	`TheAlmaity`	`NA? Isnt it like 4-7 AM there? lol...`
`11:09.28`	`thenk`	`shrugs it's only 7pm here`
`11:09.35`	`thenk`	`but theres not many people from SEA here`
`11:21.10`	`*** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~Christoph@150.135.211.242)`
`11:23.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (~wOlfLinG@cpc3-nrte2-0-0-cust222.8-4.cable.virginmedia.com)`
`11:34.41`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MysT_DooM (~MysT_DooM@ool-44c48774.dyn.optonline.net)`
`11:36.46`	`*** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (~wOlfLinG@cpc3-nrte2-0-0-cust222.8-4.cable.virginmedia.com)`
`11:37.03`	`*** part/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (~wOlfLinG@cpc3-nrte2-0-0-cust222.8-4.cable.virginmedia.com)`
`11:40.22`	`*** join/#sc2mapster FRoZeN (~lul@0606ds6-od.0.fullrate.dk)`
`11:41.20`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Petoj (~Petoj87@h-186-121.A185.priv.bahnhof.se)`
`11:59.06`	`Creation`	`i think im gunna learn how to do cinematics`
`12:02.01`	`Phaos`	`maaaan eternal locked the thread of Rodrigo vs Bounty just as I was gunna post something sage`
`12:02.04`	`Phaos`	`boo.`
`12:11.25`	`*** join/#sc2mapster FFFFUUUUU (~Raziel@95.76.133.23)`
`12:13.36`	`thenk`	`whats an easy way to fully heal a unit with a trigger action?`
`12:14.35`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Phaos (~Rorax@60-234-224-240.bitstream.orcon.net.nz)`
`12:15.21`	`thenk`	`ah i see`
`12:21.23`	`Leaderboard`	`Damn...I can't publish my map...`
`12:21.32`	`Leaderboard`	`I have this problem since 2 days`
`12:21.49`	`Leaderboard`	`Can someone help me ?`
`12:22.56`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MysT_DooM (~MysT_DooM@ool-44c48774.dyn.optonline.net)`
`12:26.22`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Paras1te (~paras1te@host-89-229-95-31.szczecin.mm.pl)`
`12:27.47`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Thels (GameBot@ip3e83cdbc.speed.planet.nl)`
`12:29.50`	`Leaderboard`	`Can someone help me please !`
`12:31.43`	`thenk`	`hmm. how do i resurrect my hero with his items? :P`
`12:34.07`	`Leaderboard`	`Someone have issues with map publishing ? :(`
`12:34.22`	`thenk`	`it froze for me on 0%, i had to recreate my game variants`
`12:34.39`	`Leaderboard`	`I have the same problem !`
`12:34.42`	`Leaderboard`	`How do you fix that ?`
`12:35.17`	`thenk`	`i had to recreate my game variants.`
`12:35.51`	`Leaderboard`	`How do you do that ?`
`12:41.35`	`thenk`	`in map->game variants?`
`12:43.06`	`thenk`	`when i set an item not to 'drop on death', it just disappears?`
`12:54.48`	`Arthas-`	`I think ive changed my mind!`
`12:54.50`	`Arthas-`	`Kids are awesome`
`12:55.17`	`Arthas-`	`They like come over, are always happy and curious. They laugh and play around`
`12:55.53`	`Arthas-`	`Then after they leave you realize the little angels have wiped their hands at every inch of your tv :<`
`12:57.18`	`Cintiq`	`i hate kids.`
`12:57.32`	`Cintiq`	`happy and curious? kiddy and stupid`
`12:58.20`	`Cintiq`	`KIDDING`
`12:58.30`	`Phaos`	`DURRRRRRRRRRRRRR`
`12:59.01`	`Arthas-`	`kinda funny when they fall though`
`12:59.09`	`Arthas-`	`My network cables act as children traps!`
`12:59.19`	`Arthas-`	`listens for the bump`
`12:59.48`	`Arthas-`	`but at least they gave me a reason to clean the appartment up :p`
`13:02.01`	`*** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (~wOlfLinG@cpc3-nrte2-0-0-cust222.8-4.cable.virginmedia.com)`
`13:02.15`	`Arthas-`	`nice comic :D`
`13:09.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Twiner\|Inlaws (~Vern_Mitc@c-98-229-44-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)`
`13:09.51`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Twiner\|Inlaws (~Vern_Mitc@c-98-229-44-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)`
`13:12.16`	`*** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (~wOlfLinG@cpc3-nrte2-0-0-cust222.8-4.cable.virginmedia.com)`
`13:12.21`	`Cintiq`	`haha Arthas-`
`13:12.29`	`Cintiq`	`i get that same problem with my kiddy-tripwire`
`13:12.31`	`Cintiq`	`;-;`
`13:16.19`	`Pierrot`	`Is it possible to attach turret to an unit and make them acting individually?`
`13:17.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Falsus (~Falsus@c-6e7be055.1219-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)`
`13:23.45`	`Arthas-`	`does anyone here know a good site where you can order dvd-r and cd-r`
`13:23.53`	`Arthas-`	`for cdr Id prefer 900 MB disks`
`13:24.18`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Daeden (~a@94-195-209-10.zone9.bethere.co.uk)`
`13:28.35`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Creation (46f682ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.246.130.186)`
`13:29.31`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Icebane (d5423135@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.66.49.53)`
`13:29.42`	`Icebane`	`GDAY! :D`
`13:30.47`	`Arthas-`	`gday!`
`13:32.00`	`Creation`	`heya`
`13:32.19`	`Creation`	`you guys wanna see my first cross combo limit break attack? I learned alot abuot lighting today`
`13:33.28`	`Creation`	`tell me what ya think`
`13:33.31`	`Creation`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGAnch02OO8`
`13:34.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Demo (ae145f89@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.20.95.137)`
`13:35.05`	`Demo`	`So does anyone know how to change the HP/Shield/Energy bar above the head to different colors?`
`13:35.15`	`Demo`	`i.e energy being a different color other than purple`
`13:35.24`	`Demo`	`health being another color other than green`
`13:35.47`	`Creation`	`dont know`
`13:35.50`	`Creation`	`good question`
`13:36.28`	`Demo`	`:/`
`13:36.48`	`Demo`	`I am making it so the energy of the unit, is how many turns it has left before it can be used again`
`13:37.01`	`Demo`	`so out of 5 squares`
`13:37.03`	`Demo`	`if 3 are filled`
`13:37.07`	`Demo`	`you wait 3 turns`
`13:37.13`	`Demo`	`but purple is just too ugly for me`
`13:38.11`	`Creation`	`what kind of game are you making?`
`13:39.25`	`Demo`	`I'm remaking the tactics map I entered into the blizz map contest`
`13:39.33`	`Demo`	`It's a turn based tactics game`
`13:39.43`	`Pierrot`	`Demo`
`13:39.44`	`Demo`	`but I'm taking more time with this one`
`13:39.48`	`Pierrot`	`look in actor`
`13:39.52`	`Demo`	`and now that I have better knowledge`
`13:39.58`	`Demo`	`It makes it so much easier`
`13:40.33`	`Pierrot`	`GuardianFL`
`13:40.35`	`Pierrot`	`hmm`
`13:40.39`	`Demo`	`What in actor should I be looking for?`
`13:40.41`	`Pierrot`	`go in the actor of your unit`
`13:40.47`	`Pierrot`	`for marine take marine`
`13:40.55`	`Demo`	`ooo`
`13:41.01`	`Demo`	`I think I ofund it`
`13:41.05`	`Pierrot`	`then there is a field called status color`
`13:41.06`	`Demo`	`status colors?`
`13:41.09`	`Demo`	`TY`
`13:41.18`	`HeyRevolver`	`Holy shit Creation I cant believe thats in sc2`
`13:41.18`	`Creation`	`thats epic`
`13:41.21`	`HeyRevolver`	`badass`
`13:41.27`	`Creation`	`thanks man`
`13:41.33`	`Pierrot`	`and voila !`
`13:41.41`	`Creation`	`Its amazing what you can do once you learn lighting`
`13:41.41`	`Demo`	`That is going to make this 20x more epic`
`13:41.50`	`Demo`	`link please creation`
`13:41.55`	`Creation`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGAnch02OO8`
`13:42.11`	`HeyRevolver`	`You should have like 5 of them but have 4 of them really transparent`
`13:42.14`	`HeyRevolver`	`and just like mirages`
`13:42.15`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`13:42.40`	`Demo`	`nice`
`13:42.50`	`Creation`	`ty`
`13:43.12`	`Creation`	`hey Pierrot do you know how I can make it so status bars dont show up when you mouse over a unit?`
`13:43.20`	`Creation`	`I would die to get rid of that nastiness`
`13:43.32`	`Pierrot`	`do you need them at all ?`
`13:43.36`	`Creation`	`yes`
`13:43.40`	`Creation`	`i mean no`
`13:43.40`	`Pierrot`	`hmm wel`
`13:43.43`	`Creation`	`misread that`
`13:43.48`	`Pierrot`	`you can get rid of them`
`13:43.50`	`Creation`	`dont need them at all`
`13:43.58`	`Pierrot`	`same in the actor of the unit`
`13:44.09`	`Creation`	`so id have to do it for each unit?`
`13:44.13`	`HeyRevolver`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZOb7is19Lg`
`13:44.43`	`Creation`	`EPIC`
`13:44.57`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`13:44.58`	`HeyRevolver`	`best`
`13:44.59`	`HeyRevolver`	`spell`
`13:45.00`	`HeyRevolver`	`ever`
`13:45.06`	`Creation`	`I should make a zealots of the round`
`13:45.09`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`13:46.17`	`Creation`	`personally heyrevolver this is my favorite`
`13:46.18`	`Creation`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhmO9NOFHfo`
`13:47.05`	`Creation`	`you know what.. fuck all the fluff I need to make summons for my game`
`13:47.27`	`Arthas-`	`you know what, screw you. Now I must find my pc version of the game`
`13:47.35`	`Creation`	`LOL`
`13:47.36`	`Arthas-`	`or do the ps3 slim play ps1 games perhaps`
`13:47.44`	`Arthas-`	`its just ps2 games it doesnt do right?`
`13:47.50`	`Creation`	`not sure`
`13:47.52`	`Creation`	`never tried`
`13:48.10`	`HeyRevolver`	`yeah baha was awesome`
`13:48.18`	`HeyRevolver`	`but the first time i saw knight of the round i literally peed myself`
`13:48.20`	`HeyRevolver`	`with excitement`
`13:48.30`	`Arthas-`	`:>`
`13:48.43`	`HeyRevolver`	`i was literally rofl`
`13:48.45`	`Arthas-`	`and then in ff13, you can barely use them!`
`13:48.56`	`Arthas-`	`it was when i realized that i stopped playing :p`
`13:49.01`	`HeyRevolver`	`i quit after 8 lol`
`13:49.12`	`HeyRevolver`	`or mabe it was 9`
`13:49.16`	`Arthas-`	`I wanna try 9`
`13:49.18`	`Arthas-`	`its furries`
`13:49.22`	`Arthas-`	`and ive heard its good`
`13:49.25`	`HeyRevolver`	`didnt play that one`
`13:49.29`	`HeyRevolver`	`which one had the underwater ball?`
`13:49.31`	`HeyRevolver`	`game`
`13:49.36`	`Arthas-`	`in fact, I have 7-9 still sealed but they will stay sealed :p`
`13:49.40`	`HeyRevolver`	`it was later`
`13:49.40`	`Arthas-`	`10`
`13:49.42`	`HeyRevolver`	`like 13?`
`13:49.43`	`HeyRevolver`	`oh`
`13:49.46`	`Arthas-`	`11 was mmo`
`13:49.48`	`Arthas-`	`12 was crap`
`13:49.50`	`Arthas-`	`13 crap`
`13:49.58`	`Arthas-`	`oh and 10 had terrible voice acting so crap :D`
`13:50.04`	`HeyRevolver`	`i played that one until i got to the electric lightning rocky waste place`
`13:50.07`	`HeyRevolver`	`then quit`
`13:50.25`	`Creation`	`Yeah im all about reviving the classic gameplay`
`13:50.36`	`Creation`	`been wanting to for so long`
`13:50.42`	`Arthas-`	`just make sure that the battles are somewhat quick`
`13:51.00`	`Arthas-`	`Terran RPG for example, those battles just seemed too long to me`
`13:51.14`	`Creation`	`They seemed long cause there wasnt enough going on in the battles`
`13:51.20`	`Creation`	`plus it was single player`
`13:51.31`	`Arthas-`	`so was ff1-X :p`
`13:51.33`	`Arthas-`	`sp that is`
`13:51.49`	`Creation`	`This game will be nothing BUT battles.. its meant to mimic the arena from ff7 except 4 people`
`13:52.27`	`Pierrot`	`hmm is it possible to attach units to units with data editor ?`
`13:52.35`	`Creation`	`yeah i just dont know how`
`13:52.38`	`Arthas-`	`Pierrot yes`
`13:52.43`	`Creation`	`I know how to do it with triggers though`
`13:53.00`	`Pierrot`	`I made a super battleship with turrets on it but the actor are all bind to one target`
`13:53.16`	`Pierrot`	`so i realize i need to make the turrets signle units`
`13:53.23`	`Arthas-`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMtGNdbbRY0&feature=grec_index`
`13:53.31`	`Arthas-`	`That is what the BC should be like`
`13:54.04`	`Creation`	`how is that done?`
`13:54.08`	`Creation`	`I need to know`
`13:54.15`	`Arthas-`	`no idea`
`13:54.28`	`Arthas-`	`there should be info on it on the boards though`
`13:54.29`	`Creation`	`multiple turrets stacked on one unit would be my guess`
`13:55.16`	`Pierrot`	`well that is what i thought attaching turrets units to my battleship`
`13:59.19`	`Arthas-`	`Creation best i found was http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/2922-data-tank-driver-simple-attach-unit/ :p`
`13:59.25`	`Arthas-`	`broken images`
`13:59.43`	`Arthas-`	`but the map is attached. anyhow i need to sleep so gl!`
`14:01.12`	`Pierrot`	`hmm ok I followed the wrong tutorial :)`
`14:01.25`	`Creation`	`LOL`
`14:01.37`	`Creation`	`I just gave Odin a siege tank as a had gun`
`14:01.38`	`Pierrot`	`the one Prozaicmuze did on uberlisk is the one im looking for`
`14:01.41`	`Creation`	`its in his left hand`
`14:01.44`	`Creation`	`fuckin hilarious`
`14:01.59`	`Creation`	`thanks Arthas`
`14:03.32`	`HeyRevolver`	`would it be possible to import an Arena from WoW as a doodad?`
`14:03.48`	`HeyRevolver`	`or make it a doodad`
`14:05.20`	`Creation`	`I dunno`
`14:05.30`	`Creation`	`you trying to make WoW pvp in SC?`
`14:05.37`	`HeyRevolver`	`no`
`14:05.40`	`Creation`	`good`
`14:05.41`	`HeyRevolver`	`I just want the arenas`
`14:05.42`	`Creation`	`i would kill you`
`14:07.12`	`HeyRevolver`	`is it even possible to import models like that? Like cities or arenas..`
`14:07.17`	`HeyRevolver`	`orgrimmar lol`
`14:12.57`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (~Raziel@95.76.133.23)`
`14:14.31`	`Otixa`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/modcraft-s1ep4-wall-segment/`
`14:14.35`	`Otixa`	`badum-tish`
`14:17.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster moshewe (~moshewe@62.219.160.152)`
`14:17.55`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Terin (~Terin@c-98-220-198-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net)`
`14:18.27`	`Creation`	`who understands the inner workings of attatchment points well`
`14:18.56`	`Creation`	`Otixa you know that stuff right?`
`14:19.12`	`Creation`	`Yeah you do.. youre the animator`
`14:19.24`	`Otixa`	`No, I don't do animation`
`14:19.32`	`Otixa`	`You're looking for Phaos or UltiDrgn`
`14:19.40`	`Otixa`	`But attachment points are simple`
`14:19.40`	`Creation`	`I just need to know, in the previewer Otixa.. under attatchment points, how do I know exactly on the model where those points are`
`14:19.50`	`Otixa`	`They're just free-floating vertexes`
`14:19.58`	`Creation`	`how do i view those?`
`14:20.06`	`Otixa`	`You can view em in max ;p`
`14:20.12`	`Otixa`	`Dunno about previewer`
`14:20.19`	`Creation`	`ah crapola`
`14:20.36`	`Creation`	`do the numbers specify a mathematical xyz point?`
`14:21.01`	`Otixa`	`yes, and xyz for rotation`
`14:21.05`	`Demo`	`I know this is terribly wrong..`
`14:21.06`	`Demo`	`Please choose 10 units for your starting line up. Units with a red bar, can only attack after the opponents first turn.`
`14:21.08`	`Demo`	`woops`
`14:21.11`	`Demo`	`ignore that`
`14:21.16`	`Phaos`	`whats this about attachments ?`
`14:21.17`	`Demo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:21.36`	`Demo`	`http://pastebin.com/0v7VvT24`
`14:21.42`	`Demo`	`I have that wrong some how`
`14:21.48`	`Demo`	`I want it to choose eveyr unit on the map`
`14:21.51`	`Demo`	`and save it to a variable`
`14:21.55`	`Phaos`	`creation whats this about attachments ?`
`14:22.18`	`Creation`	`I dont have max Phaos, im just wondering if I can figure out where exactly a model will attacth to`
`14:22.26`	`Creation`	`when im using triggers`
`14:22.35`	`Creation`	`ie for Odin, when i attach to head, its going to his feet`
`14:22.46`	`Phaos`	`right`
`14:22.46`	`Creation`	`I see now in the previewers then points that are accepted`
`14:22.51`	`Pierrot`	`Phaos : Is it possible to attach actual units to an other units ? not just actor`
`14:22.55`	`Phaos`	`because your attaching it to the wrong attachment point`
`14:23.02`	`Phaos`	`so the fallback is going to Origin`
`14:23.09`	`Creation`	`aye, i need to know how i can figure out where a point will end up`
`14:23.22`	`Phaos`	`you want to attach it to SOpAttachOverhead`
`14:23.31`	`Creation`	`im trying the previewer, but all it gives me is a number next to the attatchment point`
`14:23.57`	`Creation`	`thanks Phaos, but how can I figure this out for future refence so i dont have to ask every time`
`14:24.02`	`Phaos`	`"Site Operator Over-head attachment"`
`14:24.04`	`Creation`	`without having max`
`14:24.09`	`Creation`	`trial and error?`
`14:24.12`	`Phaos`	`good question!`
`14:24.15`	`Phaos`	`nope`
`14:24.18`	`Phaos`	`if you wanna see a list`
`14:24.28`	`Phaos`	`go to the data editor`
`14:24.34`	`Demo`	`Grr`
`14:24.38`	`Phaos`	`open up the actors dialouge`
`14:24.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Seyon (~chatzilla@124.40.61.37)`
`14:24.51`	`Phaos`	`and search "SOpAttach"`
`14:25.02`	`Pierrot`	`Phaos : Is it possible to attach actual units to an other units ? not just actor ?`
`14:25.04`	`Phaos`	`that will give you a list of all the prebuilt attachments`
`14:25.22`	`Creation`	`Nice.`
`14:25.25`	`Phaos`	`there is alot more attachment points on the model that just teh SOp s that exist tho`
`14:25.35`	`*** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (516f48df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.72.223)`
`14:25.38`	`Creation`	`I would also like to know the answer ro Pierrots question`
`14:25.39`	`Pierrot`	`You can even make your own`
`14:25.52`	`Demo`	`How would I search for every unit on the map and add it to a variable, in an array?`
`14:25.57`	`Phaos`	`actuall units.. so for driving vehicles for instance. no, I don't beleive so`
`14:26.09`	`Demo`	`http://pastebin.com/0v7VvT24`
`14:26.17`	`Demo`	`is as far as I've gotten and it's not right`
`14:26.27`	`Phaos`	`that only way I can think to di it is constantly teleport a unit to a point on the other unit but thats ugly as hell`
`14:26.28`	`Creation`	`you can however make a unit actor fire when another actor is firing`
`14:26.29`	`Pierrot`	`actually its more than driving vehicules, its for making turrets on a battleship fires differents units`
`14:26.37`	`Creation`	`like you can have a ghost driving a tank and fire with it`
`14:26.43`	`Creation`	`it just wont do any damage`
`14:26.45`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MysT_DooM (~MysT_DooM@ool-44c48774.dyn.optonline.net)`
`14:27.03`	`Phaos`	`oh well for your case`
`14:27.07`	`Phaos`	`there is "turrets"`
`14:27.20`	`Creation`	`how about this, how is this done? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMtGNdbbRY0&feature=grec_index`
`14:27.27`	`Creation`	`multiple turrets on one unit?`
`14:27.31`	`Phaos`	`I havn't worked with turrets yet, that is a question for ProzaicMuze, and he has done the "omegalisk" tutorial which covers turrets`
`14:27.41`	`Phaos`	`yes`
`14:27.52`	`Creation`	`ok thanks`
`14:27.52`	`Phaos`	`actually`
`14:27.55`	`Phaos`	`thats even more primitive`
`14:28.04`	`Phaos`	`thats just a whoooole lotta weapons`
`14:28.12`	`Pierrot`	`well`
`14:28.15`	`Phaos`	`notice how they are all firing from the same spot`
`14:28.20`	`Creation`	`aye`
`14:28.22`	`Pierrot`	`actually your weapon focus fire`
`14:28.42`	`Phaos`	`infact my theory is confirmed if you look at the unit information`
`14:28.53`	`Pierrot`	`they dont act like individual turret`
`14:28.56`	`Phaos`	`there is a whole lotta laser weapon icons and there is probably more that arn't displayed`
`14:29.18`	`Otixa`	`hits Phaos with a pineapple`
`14:29.21`	`Creation`	`ah ok`
`14:29.31`	`Creation`	`Alright for my last ad final question`
`14:29.36`	`Creation`	`and this one will be super complex`
`14:30.18`	`Creation`	`is it possible to take sections of an odin, piece it together, and have each part act as a separate unit? IE the left arm, the right arm, and the body? acting as one unit but actually separate`
`14:30.18`	`Phaos`	`bring it ohwn`
`14:30.25`	`Creation`	`I know this is probably very advanced`
`14:30.26`	`Phaos`	`no`
`14:30.29`	`Phaos`	`well yes`
`14:30.31`	`Phaos`	`and no`
`14:30.56`	`Phaos`	`Yes it is if you butcher the odin in a 3d program and then peice it back togeather in sc2 as a unit made of attachments`
`14:31.11`	`Creation`	`thats what i feared`
`14:31.14`	`Phaos`	`no it's not if you don't use 3dsmax or don't want to go to the trouble`
`14:31.24`	`Creation`	`yeah i just dont have 3d max`
`14:31.30`	`Creation`	`oh welll`
`14:32.09`	`Creation`	`Phaos what do you think of this?`
`14:32.12`	`Creation`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGAnch02OO8`
`14:32.29`	`Phaos`	`i'm tooting my own horn here , but you can get away with some pretty sweet attachments`
`14:32.30`	`Phaos`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhhl--fYfM8`
`14:33.26`	`Creation`	`HAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK`
`14:33.32`	`Creation`	`infested terran on crack`
`14:33.35`	`Pierrot`	`i remember this one`
`14:33.43`	`Pierrot`	`i helped you on something`
`14:33.49`	`Pierrot`	`the impact range`
`14:34.01`	`Pierrot`	`do you remember ?`
`14:34.11`	`Phaos`	`yeah, uh, I think it was "how do I make the thing come out of the right spot D: "`
`14:34.29`	`Phaos`	`oh impact range yeah now I remember`
`14:34.38`	`Phaos`	`I knew it was to do with weapons`
`14:35.35`	`Phaos`	`my point to gloating is this`
`14:35.51`	`Phaos`	`on my model you can see that there are three different weapons, and 3 different areas that they are fired from`
`14:35.55`	`Creation`	`thats just a bunch of combined weapons and actor messages basically, right?`
`14:36.07`	`Phaos`	`the goo cannon arm, the swarm from it's head, and the gattling gun from the .. gattling gun`
`14:36.27`	`Phaos`	`correct!`
`14:36.38`	`Creation`	`YAY GOLD STAR`
`14:36.49`	`Phaos`	`if your looking for a tutorial, ProzaicMuze was my mentor`
`14:36.57`	`Phaos`	`so I can endorse his tutorials highly`
`14:37.48`	`Pierrot`	`in the video they seam to fire simultaneously`
`14:37.54`	`Phaos`	`they do!`
`14:37.55`	`Creation`	`is there any chance any of us are going to make money off learning this stuff?`
`14:38.05`	`Pierrot`	`why do my turrets don't ?`
`14:38.10`	`Phaos`	`lets see'`
`14:38.13`	`Creation`	`or at least is this stuff we could put in a portfolio ti get a job?`
`14:38.30`	`Phaos`	`off the top of my head it's because you need to turn off "linked fire" under the weapons property`
`14:38.40`	`Pierrot`	`madsquareybe if we reach a certain level of skill`
`14:38.49`	`Phaos`	`yes creation, blizzard are releasing a premium map service later`
`14:39.10`	`Creation`	`How will this work?`
`14:39.15`	`Pierrot`	`they wanted to implement DLC but didnt know how to do`
`14:39.15`	`Creation`	`We get hired to make maps?`
`14:39.17`	`Phaos`	`not too sure`
`14:39.29`	`Pierrot`	`so this is users who create dlc`
`14:39.33`	`Phaos`	`no I think we just release it as a premium map and hope people buy it`
`14:39.38`	`Pierrot`	`so it is not blizzard fault`
`14:39.50`	`Creation`	`ok right on..`
`14:39.57`	`Pierrot`	`premium map are fake dlc`
`14:39.58`	`Creation`	`I think I found my new job.`
`14:41.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Xaragoth (~name@pD9FF971E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`14:41.03`	`Creation`	`Shit we could all start a company with the knowledge floating around here`
`14:41.59`	`Pierrot`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/9000-data-working-with-turrets-beginner-difficulty/`
`14:42.08`	`Pierrot`	`this tutorial is the one i followed`
`14:42.25`	`Pierrot`	`but the 4 turrets are not acting individualyl`
`14:42.30`	`Phaos`	`ok folks, sorry but I reaaaaallly gotta sleep`
`14:42.33`	`Phaos`	`it's nearly 4am`
`14:42.35`	`Phaos`	`niiiight`
`14:42.48`	`Creation`	`thanks for letting me pick your brain`
`14:42.56`	`Otixa`	`bai Phaos\|Zzz`
`14:43.19`	`Creation`	`hmm I should really go to church...`
`14:43.25`	`Pierrot`	`:)`
`14:43.45`	`Pierrot`	`You should buy Galaxy editor for dummies`
`14:45.28`	`Creation`	`odd, right when i said that Jahova's witnesses knocked on my door`
`14:45.49`	`Creation`	`thats weird isnt it?`
`14:47.00`	`Otixa`	`buttheads Xaragoth`
`14:47.26`	`Xaragoth`	`hello`
`14:47.32`	`Pierrot`	`hi`
`14:47.32`	`Otixa`	`hai2u`
`14:48.22`	`*** join/#sc2mapster A1win (a1win@nikita.tnnet.fi)`
`14:52.13`	`Creation`	`jesus im comin back soon for sure`
`14:52.26`	`Creation`	`just thought id throw that out there`
`14:53.16`	`*** join/#sc2mapster hyarion (c05ben@peppar.cs.umu.se)`
`14:54.20`	`*** join/#sc2mapster EternalWraith (c636cab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.54.202.182)`
`14:57.50`	*** join/#sc2mapster Funkeh` (~funk@82.111.127.91)
`14:57.50`	*** join/#sc2mapster Funkeh` (~funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh)
`15:04.50`	`Demo`	`Why does the point defense drone die if it goes to 1 hp?`
`15:05.59`	`Demo`	`nvm it's on fire`
`15:08.49`	`*** join/#sc2mapster pevergreen (79df52c3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.223.82.195)`
`15:13.57`	`Creation`	`lol demo`
`15:14.02`	`Otixa`	`roars`
`15:14.08`	`Demo`	`I'm having fun`
`15:14.15`	`Demo`	`Setting up a lot of pretty stuff`
`15:14.19`	`Jum-Jum`	`if you friendly fire the defense drone`
`15:14.25`	`Jum-Jum`	`it doesnt block the 'bullet' right?`
`15:14.37`	`Demo`	`i.e. I'm setting up unit stats and bars`
`15:14.41`	`Demo`	`for like 24 units..`
`15:21.51`	`Demo`	`So the Pygalisks bar is higher than the middle of his body, but if I set a negative offset, the bar dissappears...`
`15:22.02`	`Demo`	`but it doesn't do it on any other unit...`
`15:23.44`	`Demo`	`any ideas?`
`15:26.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ingela (~Ingela@90-230-169-130-no35.tbcn.telia.com)`
`15:27.43`	`Otixa`	`stares`
`15:33.24`	`*** join/#sc2mapster anteevy (~anteevy@dslb-094-218-179-158.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`15:40.22`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Alexaz (~ilikepanc@78-61-235-120.static.zebra.lt)`
`15:40.43`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (~zoxc@ti0128a380-dhcp0073.bb.online.no)`
`15:45.10`	`Arthas-`	`Otixa`
`15:45.16`	`Arthas-`	`that wall looks awesome :D`
`15:49.06`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Petoj (~Petoj87@h-186-121.A185.priv.bahnhof.se)`
`15:54.10`	`Icebane`	`Arthas!`
`15:54.13`	`Icebane`	`Come and play with me! :D`
`15:55.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Terin (~Terin@c-98-220-198-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net)`
`15:58.49`	`Icebane`	`Anyone know how to merge xml files?`
`16:03.28`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Megalon (~Megalon@d86-32-5-113.cust.tele2.at)`
`16:05.11`	`Leaderboard`	`Hmm while I upgrade my tower for my TD, the model doesn't appears :(. (It changes to first tower-> second tower skin but not between, the time for the upgrade to finish)`
`16:05.17`	`Leaderboard`	`what's wrong ?`
`16:05.49`	`slightlyrandom`	`Leaderboard: Your actor events`
`16:06.11`	`Leaderboard`	`I'm not sure, I think these events are ok`
`16:06.14`	`slightlyrandom`	`On your first tower, AbilMorph.*.Finish`
`16:06.18`	`slightlyrandom`	`Term From A to B`
`16:06.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`Destroy`
`16:06.31`	`slightlyrandom`	`or is it remove?`
`16:06.49`	`slightlyrandom`	`either way, you have AbilMorph.*.Start, it should be Finish`
`16:11.13`	`Leaderboard`	`slightlyrandom : no. It's not the first tower or the second tower model problem, it's between, I want this protoss warp animation, but I think everything is correct :s`
`16:11.22`	`Leaderboard`	`I tried what you said, no succes`
`16:11.33`	`slightlyrandom`	`aha`
`16:11.44`	`slightlyrandom`	`I fiddled with that for a bit, ended up giving up`
`16:11.50`	`Leaderboard`	`xD`
`16:12.16`	`slightlyrandom`	`It involves progress actors and stuff like that, that much I gathered`
`16:14.45`	`Arthas-`	`Icebane`
`16:14.47`	`Arthas-`	`sure`
`16:15.10`	`Alexaz`	`guys, how do i apply a camera view to a player`
`16:15.11`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MysT_DooM (~MysT_DooM@ool-44c48774.dyn.optonline.net)`
`16:15.18`	`Alexaz`	`i want a player to see thru the camera`
`16:16.08`	`Leaderboard`	`slightlyrandom : does the order of actor events influes ?`
`16:16.49`	`Icebane`	`Arthas-: Ã¤r du med pÃ¥ 3v3? spelar med en anna chumme atm`
`16:16.58`	`Arthas-`	`sure om ni vill sÃ¥`
`16:17.07`	`Arthas-`	`ska bara ta fram headset sÃ¥ invita mig @ skype`
`16:17.58`	`Icebane`	`answer biiatch!`
`16:20.17`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Twiner\|Inlaws (~Vern_Mitc@c-98-229-44-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)`
`16:20.26`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`ola`
`16:22.44`	`Leaderboard`	`Someone good with actor events ? :o`
`16:22.55`	`Leaderboard`	`ProzaicMuze maybe ?`
`16:23.17`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`I wish I was`
`16:24.29`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`I'm trying to do this cascade shimmer thing using a search effect, 2 buffs, and an apply effect`
`16:24.40`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`but it doesn't work, I tweak it some, and it partially works`
`16:25.45`	`*** join/#sc2mapster aTTari (52d1992a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.209.153.42)`
`16:26.06`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`but it never propogates out like I want it to`
`16:26.06`	`Leaderboard`	`slightlyrandom ? ProzaicMuze ? :p`
`16:29.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Terin (~Terin@c-98-220-198-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net)`
`16:31.17`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`hmmm`
`16:31.50`	`*** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~Christoph@150.135.211.242)`
`16:40.09`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kalekin (~nnscript@41-132-249-42.dsl.mweb.co.za)`
`16:43.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Twiner\|Inlaws (~Vern_Mitc@c-98-229-44-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)`
`16:44.49`	`Leaderboard`	`RAAAAAAAAH`
`16:49.54`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Triceron (60313557@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.49.53.87)`
`16:50.02`	`Triceron`	`Ahoy mateys`
`16:50.54`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Petoj (~Petoj87@h-186-121.A185.priv.bahnhof.se)`
`16:55.40`	`Leaderboard`	`Triceron, are you good in actor events ? :p`
`16:56.07`	`Triceron`	`newp`
`16:56.21`	`Leaderboard`	`shit :(`
`16:56.39`	`Triceron`	`don't know much about data editor at all :/`
`16:56.50`	`Alexaz`	`guys, how do i play a song from the jukebox?`
`16:57.02`	`Alexaz`	`it should be Sound - Play music`
`16:57.07`	`Alexaz`	`but i cant seem to find the jukebox songs`
`16:58.21`	`Leaderboard`	`I gonna die, I CAN'T FIX THAT SHIT`
`16:58.48`	`LordAbyss`	`mah boss fight has been posted on the forums :)`
`16:59.04`	`LordAbyss`	`you can hear my sexy voice`
`17:01.16`	`Alexaz`	`guys anyone?`
`17:02.10`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Azoth (got_Ammo@guest-wireless-207-151-232-023.usc.edu)`
`17:02.10`	`Triceron`	`you can extract em from the mpqs`
`17:02.25`	`Triceron`	`and they're in the game, so you can play through editor`
`17:02.36`	`Triceron`	`did you need to find the path?`
`17:03.00`	`Triceron`	`you need to add a dependency to the Campaign files`
`17:03.12`	`Triceron`	`because the Jukebox is part of the Campaign mpq file`
`17:03.28`	`Triceron`	`it's a singleplayer thing`
`17:05.30`	`Alexaz`	`k`
`17:18.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Xackery (~Xackery@ip72-193-57-227.lv.lv.cox.net)`
`17:24.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Terin_ (~Terin@c-98-220-198-148.hsd1.il.comcast.net)`
`17:31.58`	`Leaderboard`	`Someone good with actors ? Xackery, ProzaicMuze ?`
`17:32.25`	`Xackery`	`moo?`
`17:32.37`	`Leaderboard`	`yeah`
`17:32.41`	`Leaderboard`	`are you good with actor events ?`
`17:32.53`	`Xackery`	`Pretty much.`
`17:32.56`	`Xackery`	`What's your question?`
`17:33.07`	`Leaderboard`	`Well`
`17:33.30`	`Leaderboard`	`It's while I upgrade my tower to be a second tower, naturally more powerful`
`17:33.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Therealsc2Mapste (50c96c38@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.201.108.56)`
`17:33.38`	`Leaderboard`	`It transforms correctly into the second tower's actor`
`17:33.45`	`Xackery`	`mhm`
`17:33.46`	`Therealsc2Mapste`	`yeah`
`17:33.58`	`Leaderboard`	`but there's no actor while upgrading`
`17:34.04`	`Leaderboard`	`like the protoss warp thing`
`17:34.11`	`Xackery`	`mhm`
`17:34.14`	`Leaderboard`	`this actor works when I create the tower`
`17:34.20`	`Leaderboard`	`you know what I mean ? i know bad english`
`17:34.29`	`Xackery`	`Which actor are you using?`
`17:34.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Morph Start > Create BLAH actor`
`17:34.38`	`Leaderboard`	`Protoss Small Build, something like that`
`17:34.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Morph Finish > Destroy BLAH actor`
`17:34.46`	`Leaderboard`	`ProzaicMuze, the Actor Hero. listen to him`
`17:34.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Morph Destroy > Create 2nd Tower Actor`
`17:35.02`	`Leaderboard`	`I think that's what I did.`
`17:35.07`	`Therealsc2Mapste`	`so much`
`17:35.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Morph Finish > Create 2nd Tower Actor*`
`17:35.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol, double check`
`17:35.23`	`Xackery`	`I'll PM handle it hten. :P`
`17:35.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Sorry, to step on toes`
`17:35.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`if you were handling it`
`17:35.36`	`Leaderboard`	`ProzaicMuze : that's what I did. It works. The problem is the animation WHILE upgrading`
`17:35.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I just saw my name pinged Xp`
`17:35.46`	`Xackery`	`me too`
`17:35.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yeah`
`17:36.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`WHILE upgrading is Morph Start`
`17:36.20`	`Therealsc2Mapste`	`Leaderboard`
`17:36.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You need to have the following set of things:`
`17:36.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Morph Start > Model Swap (transition actor)`
`17:36.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Morph Finish > Model Swap (2nd Tower actor)`
`17:37.15`	`Otixa`	`punches ProzaicMuze`
`17:37.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`OR`
`17:37.22`	`Leaderboard`	`Ok. And all of this on WICH actor Events ?`
`17:37.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Morph Start > Destroy 1st Actor`
`17:37.28`	`Leaderboard`	`the first tower, second tower or transition actor ?`
`17:37.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Morph Start > Create Transition Actor`
`17:37.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Morph Finish > Destroy Transition Actor`
`17:37.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Morph Finish > Create 2nd Tower Actor`
`17:37.51`	`Leaderboard`	`all of those maybe.`
`17:37.57`	`Leaderboard`	`But that's +- what I did`
`17:37.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It can actually all be on the 1st actor`
`17:38.04`	`Leaderboard`	`really ? i'll try it`
`17:38.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`since you're targeting specific actors`
`17:38.13`	`Leaderboard`	`Ok, I never use target. maybe that's my error.`
`17:38.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Since Destroy and Create both have target fields`
`17:38.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you can't get that to work, separate them out to their respective actors`
`17:39.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But if you have no actor during a morph`
`17:39.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the reason is usually because you destroyed an actor or didnt' create a temp actor with your events`
`17:39.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you have multiple health bars at the end of a morph, that means you didn't destroy the 1st actor or the temp actor at the end of the morph.`
`17:40.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I have a tutorial on this some where lol`
`17:40.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I think it's just morph tutorial`
`17:43.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@2002:4406:65f3:0:21f:5bff:fecf:375)`
`17:45.06`	`Leaderboard`	`Hmm, still don't work. I did something bad, certainly`
`17:45.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`screenshot yoru events and the morph ability's fields`
`17:49.13`	`Leaderboard`	`ProzaicMuze : There you go. http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1317/testyu.png ... I know it's something very noob, don't insult me :p.`
`17:49.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you dirty noob`
`17:49.33`	`Leaderboard`	`DAMN`
`17:49.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`oh boy`
`17:49.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`mmk`
`17:49.54`	`Leaderboard`	`xD`
`17:49.57`	`Leaderboard`	`I knew that.`
`17:49.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you know how you left ALL those other stock events in there?`
`17:50.06`	`Leaderboard`	`W..what ?`
`17:50.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Blizzard's events that were already in there`
`17:50.40`	`Leaderboard`	`Hmm, no, I don't ever know.`
`17:50.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`17:50.52`	`Leaderboard`	`I'm pretty bad.`
`17:50.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`well the vast majority of those events but maybe 3 are useless to you`
`17:51.11`	`Leaderboard`	`Sure thing`
`17:51.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`What you're going to need to do is go through and remove any of the events that aren't directly relevant to your custom unit`
`17:51.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`For example`
`17:51.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The 3 ModelEvent squibs`
`17:51.31`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Eiviyn (586f9282@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.111.146.130)`
`17:51.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you don't need those unless you WANT the unit to cheer`
`17:51.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`etc etc`
`17:51.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Figure out what things you'll need, what you won't and discard them`
`17:51.57`	`Leaderboard`	`Yeah that's optimizing.`
`17:52.10`	`Leaderboard`	`I generally optimize those things at the end of a map...is that bad ?`
`17:52.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Because blizzard's stock events almost always cause problems when people try to add their own events`
`17:52.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`That's never bad`
`17:52.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Just make sure you make your custom units from scratch`
`17:52.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`instead of using blizzard's events`
`17:52.54`	`Leaderboard`	`I'll remember.`
`17:52.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`because blizzard did a miserable job of making efficient events`
`17:53.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Most of those events are entirely wasteful`
`17:53.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`For example`
`17:53.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the ones regarding Graviton Beam`
`17:53.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`instead of EVERY unit in the game having it`
`17:53.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`they could have put 1-2 events on the Graviton Beam actor`
`17:53.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and called it good`
`17:53.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So it's our job to remove them crappy events and make better ones ;P`
`17:54.00`	`Leaderboard`	`Ha xD`
`17:54.06`	`Leaderboard`	`Just work for Blizzard then :p`
`17:54.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It's like they don't even know their own editor :S`
`17:54.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmao never`
`17:54.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I own things`
`17:54.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I dont' work for things`
`17:54.24`	`Leaderboard`	`:p`
`17:54.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`;P`
`17:54.43`	`Leaderboard`	`I'm quite new.`
`17:54.48`	`Leaderboard`	`to the editor.`
`17:54.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that's fine :)`
`17:54.55`	`Leaderboard`	`Well what did you found ? :o`
`17:54.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`just read a bunch of tutorials before you do stuff`
`17:55.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster SuraklinSC2 (~Suraklin@CPE0080c8df268d-CM00186851be32.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`17:55.18`	`*** join/#sc2mapster EternalWraith (c636cab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.54.202.182)`
`17:55.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`What yeh mean what did I find?`
`17:55.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`oh good Eternal`
`17:55.48`	`Leaderboard`	`Did you found my error.`
`17:55.50`	`Leaderboard`	`:D`
`17:55.53`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (~zoxc@ti0128a380-dhcp0073.bb.online.no)`
`17:55.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`not in those screens`
`17:56.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But the fact that you have all those blizzard events is likely the problem`
`17:56.15`	`Leaderboard`	`oO`
`17:56.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Etternal, do you want sound for all the abilities? Or can I leave that part to you so that you can make the sounds how you want?`
`17:56.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Since I don't wanna have overlapping sounds with other stuff you already made lol`
`17:57.02`	`EternalWraith`	`I can handle the sounds Prozaic`
`17:57.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`mmk`
`17:57.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So i've got one last ability that's causin' me soem issues with the validators for the actors I made`
`17:57.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm headed to a boardgame party with my family in about an hour`
`17:57.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But when I get back from that I think I have the fix and your abilities will be good to go :)`
`17:58.04`	`EternalWraith`	`Cool.`
`17:58.14`	`EternalWraith`	`Boardgame party? hmm`
`17:58.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yeah`
`17:58.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Twilight Imperium III`
`17:58.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`think oldschool LAN before LAN was fun ;P`
`17:59.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I just wish that most of these awesome boardgames would make th eleap to computers`
`17:59.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Then I'd probably play the PC versions of the boardgames allll the time`
`18:01.02`	`EternalWraith`	`But I think what makes it fun as a boardgame is the interaction with other people irl`
`18:01.20`	`EternalWraith`	`Playing chess online aint so fun as opposed to playing someone irl. For me, anyway.`
`18:01.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ert3_mobile (~ert3@207.98.147.250)`
`18:01.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`well of course`
`18:01.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But you can only play the boardgame so often`
`18:01.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Especially when people get married, have kids etc`
`18:02.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I can rarely hit the chess tournaments myself anymore :*(`
`18:02.57`	`EternalWraith`	That is sad...I used to be pretty good at chess tournaments some years back. Haven`t played in ages though. Miss it.
`18:03.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm planning on trying for one chess tournament a month`
`18:03.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`closer to winter when the photography sessions slow down`
`18:03.40`	`Leaderboard`	`ProzaicMuze : I don't think these actor events are the problem :(`
`18:03.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`well, further into winter I shoudl say lol`
`18:03.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`?`
`18:03.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Is the actor broked?`
`18:04.05`	`Leaderboard`	`No !`
`18:06.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`well look up my morphs tutorial`
`18:06.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and compare your morphs to mine`
`18:06.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Since I need to reset my comp`
`18:06.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I've left it on for days now rofl`
`18:07.25`	`Leaderboard`	`f`
`18:11.50`	`Otixa`	`stabs Leaderboard in the eye with half a spoon of heroin`
`18:14.57`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ProzaicMuze (~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net)`
`18:15.09`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v ProzaicMuze] by ChanServ`
`18:17.37`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Vulfe (45861ecb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.134.30.203)`
`18:17.45`	`Vulfe`	`Hi.`
`18:18.09`	`Vulfe`	`Anyone here?`
`18:18.44`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Gohla (~user@53543F60.cable.casema.nl)`
`18:19.08`	`Vulfe`	`Gahhh`
`18:19.11`	`Vulfe`	`Someone talk`
`18:20.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I hate you`
`18:20.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that qualify?`
`18:21.10`	`Vulfe`	`Sure`
`18:21.11`	`Vulfe`	`:D`
`18:21.13`	`Vulfe`	`Hi PM`
`18:21.20`	`Vulfe`	`What have you been working on recently?`
`18:21.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Several things`
`18:21.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`A project for EternalWraith`
`18:21.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`One for LordAbyss`
`18:21.56`	`Vulfe`	`What is Wraith working on now?`
`18:21.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`my own supah secret project`
`18:22.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`He's not RedWraith, so I believe this is his first map`
`18:22.18`	`Vulfe`	`ohh`
`18:22.20`	`Vulfe`	`That's obnoxious`
`18:22.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`18:22.37`	`Vulfe`	`especially since RedWraith did Sentry Scramble, but he just goes by Wraith on battlenet`
`18:22.42`	`LordAbyss`	`whata?`
`18:22.45`	`Vulfe`	`I figured maybe he was just like... multiple names`
`18:22.49`	`Vulfe`	`anyway`
`18:22.51`	`LordAbyss`	`ooo`
`18:22.53`	`LordAbyss`	`project`
`18:22.54`	`LordAbyss`	`:)`
`18:23.02`	`Vulfe`	`what are you working on, LordAbyss?`
`18:23.09`	`LordAbyss`	`nono`
`18:23.14`	`LordAbyss`	`pm's project`
`18:23.15`	`LordAbyss`	`for me`
`18:23.20`	`Vulfe`	`:\`
`18:23.22`	`Vulfe`	`Well`
`18:23.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Which is for War of Finality`
`18:23.29`	`Vulfe`	`If it's for you, you must be working on something`
`18:23.30`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`18:23.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`look on OneTwo's channel for the cinematic`
`18:23.33`	`LordAbyss`	`haha`
`18:23.34`	`LordAbyss`	`>.>`
`18:23.37`	`LordAbyss`	`i forgots about that`
`18:23.38`	`LordAbyss`	`lol`
`18:23.41`	`Vulfe`	`lol.`
`18:23.46`	`Vulfe`	`I'm working on a third person strategy game`
`18:23.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`He's essentially making me do all the work and calling it his project`
`18:23.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it's this new tred`
`18:23.53`	`Vulfe`	`I have the mechanics pretty much done :P`
`18:23.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Prozaic does the work`
`18:23.57`	`Skizot`	`Triceron here?`
`18:23.58`	`LordAbyss`	`i just posted my wow boss fight`
`18:23.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`then gives the project to someone else`
`18:24.03`	`Vulfe`	`lol.`
`18:24.04`	`LordAbyss`	`lol`
`18:24.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`who calls it their new project`
`18:24.13`	`LordAbyss`	`haha no`
`18:24.19`	`LordAbyss`	`i will gives you plenty of credit :P`
`18:24.20`	`Vulfe`	`At least I never ask anyone for help`
`18:24.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`18:24.30`	`Vulfe`	`at least not content`
`18:24.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm not that worried about credit`
`18:24.38`	`Triceron`	`newp`
`18:24.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I just thought it was funny what you said`
`18:24.40`	`Vulfe`	`except for ideas and such...`
`18:24.41`	`Vulfe`	`anyway.`
`18:24.42`	`LordAbyss`	`haha`
`18:24.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`"no no pm's project for me"`
`18:24.48`	`*** join/#sc2mapster P_R_Deltoid (~P_R_Dontk@c-76-20-43-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`18:24.49`	`LordAbyss`	`;)`
`18:24.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol Vulfe, never be afraid to ask for help`
`18:25.05`	`Vulfe`	`Speaking of which, does anyone have any cool ideas for custom Terran units in my third-person strategy game?`
`18:25.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`most of my maps are collab with exception to the 2-3 I make solo simply so I have stuff made only by me`
`18:25.14`	`Vulfe`	`The races are the same 3, but totally revamped`
`18:25.18`	`LordAbyss`	`i really shouldn't be minimized during raid in wow`
`18:25.20`	`Vulfe`	`so if anyone has cool ideas, let me know :D`
`18:25.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Do you has the token black man?`
`18:25.32`	`Vulfe`	`...`
`18:25.44`	`Vulfe`	`are there any black-man terran units?`
`18:25.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`He must have Wesley Snipes voice`
`18:25.55`	`ProzaicMuze`	`or it's not the token black man`
`18:25.58`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`18:26.01`	`Vulfe`	`Not worth importing`
`18:26.17`	`Vulfe`	`Anyway`
`18:26.24`	`Vulfe`	`I think I'm going to make the siege tanks into flak cannons`
`18:26.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that could be cool`
`18:26.56`	`Vulfe`	`Yeh`
`18:27.01`	`Vulfe`	`I need to get a tech tree tbh`
`18:27.07`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys)`
`18:27.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`well, then pencil one out before you get started lol`
`18:27.11`	`Vulfe`	`because I want orbital beacons to periodically call in supplies`
`18:27.16`	`Vulfe`	`but I'm not sure how to work that into it all`
`18:27.35`	`Vulfe`	`Well, theorycrafting is fine atm because I still need to get back to my computer to implement the main game mechanics`
`18:27.39`	`Vulfe`	`but it's almost done lol`
`18:28.17`	`Vulfe`	`I think I want choice-based tech though`
`18:28.19`	`Vulfe`	`at least for terran`
`18:28.32`	`Vulfe`	`as in, making one choice blocks off another`
`18:28.40`	`Vulfe`	`so specialization O_O`
`18:29.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`how many tiers?`
`18:29.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`3 or 5?`
`18:29.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`(4 is always bad, never 4)`
`18:29.09`	`Vulfe`	`I'm not entirely sure`
`18:29.11`	`Vulfe`	`Lol`
`18:29.22`	`Vulfe`	`What should I divide the tree's specializations into`
`18:29.33`	`Vulfe`	`Infantry, vehicle, aircraft is too cliche`
`18:29.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Without seeing what your map is like, I has no cluz`
`18:29.36`	`Vulfe`	`and too easy x.x`
`18:30.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Military / Tech / Economy`
`18:30.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Military unlocks combat tech and superior fighting units`
`18:30.39`	`Vulfe`	`Perhaps I'll make it so you can go Main into one and secondary into another`
`18:30.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Tech reduces cost of blah and unlocks overall better tech like maybe L4/5 of weapons and armor`
`18:30.43`	`Vulfe`	`but that seems like a good idea`
`18:30.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Economy is teh obvious`
`18:30.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Or you could be evil`
`18:30.57`	`Vulfe`	`yeah, well`
`18:30.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and have it really mean spy planes`
`18:31.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and Tanya`
`18:31.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`with death pistols`
`18:31.11`	`Vulfe`	`Lol.`
`18:31.32`	`Vulfe`	`In all seriousness, I haven't figured out how I want the game's economy to work in my game though`
`18:31.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you dont' get the reference there is no hope for you btw`
`18:31.45`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`18:32.27`	`Alexaz`	`is there any way to hide the hud but leave abilities functional?`
`18:32.32`	`*** join/#sc2mapster frossen (~lul@0606ds6-od.0.fullrate.dk)`
`18:32.40`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Arthas-4 (~dasd@ip3-100.bon.riksnet.se)`
`18:33.06`	`Vulfe`	`Alexaz: Nope!`
`18:33.30`	`Vulfe`	`Anyway, PM, I'm not sure how to make the economy (mining, etc.) function well in a turn-based environment`
`18:33.34`	`Vulfe`	`Do you have any suggestions?`
`18:33.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it's turn based`
`18:33.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`?`
`18:34.02`	`Vulfe`	`Yep`
`18:34.09`	`Vulfe`	`Think Warhammer`
`18:34.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`except crappier, right?`
`18:34.24`	`Vulfe`	`Well`
`18:34.28`	`Vulfe`	`Less hassle, and less fun`
`18:34.28`	`Vulfe`	`:D`
`18:34.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So it's like heroclix`
`18:34.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`got it`
`18:34.38`	`Vulfe`	`LOL.`
`18:34.41`	`Vulfe`	`Noooo`
`18:34.48`	`Vulfe`	`I don't want to be tied to that`
`18:34.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`;P`
`18:34.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Well`
`18:35.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`there are a couple methods of handling turnbased monaiz`
`18:35.08`	`Vulfe`	`At the beginning of each phase, unit turn orders are randomized by priority`
`18:35.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`either you make phases`
`18:35.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`or you make a global income turn`
`18:35.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`with phases`
`18:35.46`	`Vulfe`	`I want the players to have to mine income though`
`18:35.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you decided if you want it to be income > action > purch`
`18:35.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`or Purchase > action > income`
`18:35.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`decide*`
`18:36.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`With global, you decide if the income happens before both turns or after both turns`
`18:36.28`	`Vulfe`	`Income > Structures > Units`
`18:36.30`	`Vulfe`	`essentially`
`18:36.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`are you tying monaiz to plots?`
`18:37.11`	`Vulfe`	`I don't want to tie money to game squares`
`18:37.19`	`Vulfe`	`but maybe certain strategic points`
`18:37.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`which is a plot ;P`
`18:37.33`	`Vulfe`	`fine.`
`18:37.35`	`Vulfe`	`Plots.`
`18:37.37`	`Vulfe`	`FFS`
`18:37.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`18:37.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`plots is anything that is static and can switch control`
`18:37.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`harvestable is the other option`
`18:37.53`	`Vulfe`	`Should I do a universal basic income?`
`18:37.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`or influence (area) based`
`18:38.04`	`Vulfe`	`I kind of wanted to do Harvestable`
`18:38.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Well`
`18:38.11`	`Vulfe`	`but then idk how that works basically`
`18:38.12`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`18:38.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I thin kyou should do a mix of all of the above`
`18:38.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`otherwise economy tier won't work well`
`18:38.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`for example`
`18:38.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`each tier should have a limit on the number of economic structures you can build`
`18:38.37`	`EternalWraith`	`Area based in LOTR2: Rise of the witch king was interesting`
`18:38.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`or even the type`
`18:38.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster SuraklinSC2 (~Suraklin@CPE0080c8df268d-CM00186851be32.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`18:38.44`	`Alexaz`	`Guys, how do i make psi storm 3 times smaller?`
`18:38.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So your beginning income is buildings`
`18:38.54`	`Vulfe`	`Decrease the area`
`18:39.08`	`Alexaz`	`k`
`18:39.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you can then make plots unlock harvestable areas`
`18:39.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and/or static income`
`18:39.29`	`Vulfe`	`Harvestable area is what I think I want`
`18:39.32`	`Vulfe`	`but I mean`
`18:39.38`	`Vulfe`	`It's a mod, so it's flexible map-to-map`
`18:39.55`	`Vulfe`	`How should harvesting work`
`18:39.58`	`Vulfe`	`Through mining units?`
`18:40.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Probably neutral mining units`
`18:40.20`	`Vulfe`	`Meh`
`18:40.34`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Helral (Helral@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl)`
`18:40.38`	`Vulfe`	`I kind of like the aspect of economic advantage through mining resources`
`18:40.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`only problem is with turnbased, the length of the turn would affect harvest amount unless you make the harvesting a dummy`
`18:40.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and it's still static, but based on the number of harvesters`
`18:40.55`	`Helral`	`meows`
`18:40.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you`
`18:40.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`person`
`18:40.59`	`Vulfe`	`meow`
`18:41.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`query`
`18:41.06`	`Vulfe`	`kk`
`18:41.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`not you dummy`
`18:41.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Helral`
`18:41.19`	`Vulfe`	`FINE.`
`18:41.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`reeeeeejected`
`18:41.28`	`Vulfe`	`We just typed out a ten-page conversation in main chat`
`18:41.30`	`Vulfe`	`so we might as well`
`18:41.49`	`Vulfe`	`I'm going to go take a shower, but I'll think on it`
`18:41.50`	`Jum-Jum`	`I like it when you build a structure, and it has like 5 neutral units that mines by themselves`
`18:42.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`18:42.08`	`Jum-Jum`	`and you build extra units to mine, kinda like sc2 but the workers are static`
`18:42.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I think it's better tot alk in the open myself`
`18:42.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`sicne other's might glean ideas from it`
`18:42.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and I'm all for opensource blah`
`18:42.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and if someone steals`
`18:42.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it entitles me to reaming them with the amazing flaming powers that I posess`
`18:42.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`so it's win - win - win for me`
`18:43.24`	`Jum-Jum`	`i just 'fell for it' when this one map had missile towers and anti-missile towers`
`18:43.32`	`Jum-Jum`	`and all you did was build different sorts of towers`
`18:43.50`	`Jum-Jum`	`like one would shoot like 10 missiles at the time, os you would need a lot of small anti-missile turrets to shoot them down`
`18:43.55`	`Jum-Jum`	`simple map but very fun`
`18:44.37`	`Alexaz`	`How do i add units to that menu where u can add units with Ctrl + 1, Ctrl + 2`
`18:44.43`	`Alexaz`	`unit grouping panel or w/e u call it`
`18:45.06`	`Alexaz`	`nvm`
`18:45.08`	`Jum-Jum`	`what do you mean?`
`18:45.10`	`Jum-Jum`	`in triggers?`
`18:50.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Cronos\|zzZZz (~mattb@network173-210.wctc.net)`
`18:50.25`	`Alexaz`	`how do i add other death actors to units death?`
`18:50.40`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Helral (Helral@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl)`
`18:50.52`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Helral (Helral@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl)`
`18:52.48`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Computerpunk (~Computerp@85.186.122.45)`
`19:04.47`	`Vulfe`	`I'm back`
`19:04.52`	`Vulfe`	`Let's talk about strategy`
`19:04.54`	`Vulfe`	`O_O`
`19:05.31`	`Helral`	`places a red dot on Vulfe from a distance far away.`
`19:05.33`	`Vulfe`	`I've decided that killing opponent workers at harvestable resource areas should be an important element of strategy (somehwat)`
`19:05.41`	`Vulfe`	`Hi Helral`
`19:05.45`	`Helral`	`hears someone say: "Nuclear Launch Detected"`
`19:05.47`	`Vulfe`	`puts up a shield`
`19:05.49`	`Helral`	`meows innocently`
`19:05.56`	`Vulfe`	`puts up 15000 shields`
`19:06.01`	`Helral`	`lol`
`19:06.11`	`Vulfe`	`I ain't dyin'`
`19:06.13`	`Vulfe`	`to no nukes`
`19:06.18`	`Vulfe`	`gets EMP'd`
`19:06.19`	`Vulfe`	`Maaaaaan`
`19:06.43`	`Helral`	`watches the nuke fall down onto Vulfe, in slow motion.`
`19:07.33`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Cronos (~mattb@network173-210.wctc.net)`
`19:07.38`	`Vulfe`	`matrix dodges the nuke, somehow`
`19:08.07`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Jygga (Jygga@unaffiliated/jygga)`
`19:08.13`	`Helral`	`watches how the nuke lands in front of Vulfe's feet, after he dodged the nuke itself.`
`19:08.23`	`Helral`	`loses sight of Vulfe in the nuke explosion XD`
`19:08.38`	`Vulfe`	`O_o`
`19:08.39`	`Vulfe`	`I'll`
`19:08.41`	`Vulfe`	`be back`
`19:08.51`	`Vulfe`	`teirgfqiowhf32198hrfq82yfu3heraefqreahhjt4eag4tbw4`
`19:08.51`	`slightlyrandom`	`sighs with grief over all that pointless violence`
`19:11.30`	`Vulfe`	`Lol.`
`19:11.35`	`Helral`	`points out to slightlyrandom that the nuke is pointed violence, not pointless violence.`
`19:11.37`	`Vulfe`	`Epic flamewar on SC2M`
`19:11.38`	`Vulfe`	`funtimes`
`19:13.16`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Araxnid (Araxnid@home-pool-164-182.com2com.ru)`
`19:13.44`	`Araxnid`	`darksiders..damn those man, who tells me about this game..`
`19:14.27`	`Helral`	`meows`
`19:15.31`	`Araxnid`	`damn, looks like importer stop working, damn it..my save was too much time ago..`
`19:15.33`	`Araxnid`	`ohohoh`
`19:15.50`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Jyggaa (ordog@unaffiliated/jygga)`
`19:15.50`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RaydenUni (~rayden@adsl-69-231-124-208.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net)`
`19:17.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210)`
`19:17.25`	`Vulfe`	`:(`
`19:17.26`	`Vulfe`	`So.`
`19:17.29`	`Vulfe`	`How is everyone doing?`
`19:17.34`	`Araxnid`	`nice`
`19:17.35`	`Araxnid`	`hi`
`19:17.37`	`Vulfe`	`Pretty exciting stuff going on recently.`
`19:17.39`	`Vulfe`	`Flame wars`
`19:17.40`	`Vulfe`	`hacking`
`19:17.42`	`Vulfe`	`etc.`
`19:17.42`	`Vulfe`	`:D`
`19:18.44`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (6d553311@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.85.51.17)`
`19:19.35`	`Vulfe`	`Hiya.`
`19:20.37`	`Vulfe`	`Does anyone have any ideas for my TBS game?`
`19:20.41`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`19:20.52`	`PM\|TI`	`afk for 10+ hrs`
`19:21.01`	`Helral`	`hehehe`
`19:21.02`	`Helral`	`TBS?`
`19:21.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`TI ?`
`19:21.11`	`Vulfe`	`Turn-Based Strategy`
`19:21.18`	`slightlyrandom`	`You playing Risk ?`
`19:21.26`	`PM\|TI`	`Totaly bad system`
`19:21.30`	`PM\|TI`	`that's what TBS is`
`19:21.30`	`PM\|TI`	`nah`
`19:21.32`	`Vulfe`	`YOU LIE`
`19:21.33`	`PM\|TI`	`Twilight Imperium`
`19:21.34`	`PM\|TI`	`and other things`
`19:21.41`	`PM\|TI`	`we've got like 20+ different board games`
`19:21.44`	`PM\|TI`	`we just pick and choose`
`19:21.50`	`PM\|TI`	`Nuclear war is probably the first game we play`
`19:21.52`	`PM\|TI`	`since it's fast and we all die`
`19:21.53`	`PM\|TI`	`it's fun`
`19:22.09`	`PM\|TI`	`but laters`
`19:22.15`	`slightlyrandom`	`GL!`
`19:22.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`(Get Lost!)`
`19:22.31`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tordy (Tordy@pool-98-116-82-152.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)`
`19:22.41`	`Tordy`	`hi there`
`19:22.59`	`slightlyrandom`	`hfgl`
`19:23.06`	`Tordy`	`hi slightrandom`
`19:23.10`	`Vulfe`	`Hi.`
`19:23.10`	`Tordy`	`slightyrandom*`
`19:23.16`	`Tordy`	`hi vulfe`
`19:23.17`	`Tordy`	`hi! :)`
`19:23.20`	`Vulfe`	`hi`
`19:23.21`	`Vulfe`	`hi`
`19:23.28`	`Triceron`	`hehe, twilight imperium`
`19:23.43`	`Triceron`	`legion of sparkling vampires`
`19:24.09`	`Tordy`	`hi Triceron`
`19:24.16`	`Triceron`	`hey Tordy`
`19:24.38`	`slightlyrandom`	`Tordy: Type the first letters of a name, then hit TAB`
`19:24.49`	`Triceron`	`omg`
`19:25.17`	`Triceron`	`i never knew that command, thanks!`
`19:25.32`	`Araxnid`	`omg, where the hell trigger about cinema in game?`
`19:25.43`	`slightlyrandom`	`Turn Cinematic Mode On`
`19:26.06`	`Tordy`	`slightlyrandom i knew that just keep forgetting to do it`
`19:26.08`	`Tordy`	`>_>`
`19:26.10`	`Tordy`	`hi slightlyrandom`
`19:27.09`	`Araxnid`	`no, i mean other, where i can set portrets..`
`19:27.10`	`Araxnid`	`hm..`
`19:28.43`	`slightlyrandom`	`Data Editor, Actor, Portrait`
`19:32.04`	`Araxnid`	`nono`
`19:32.21`	`Araxnid`	`i know about it0`
`19:32.37`	`Araxnid`	`i mean, when you in game and in cinema mode, there a portraits appears right or left..`
`19:32.47`	`Araxnid`	`cant find this trigger,,forget where it is..`
`19:33.24`	`slightlyrandom`	`Isn't that just from Play Sound and then specify who is talking ?`
`19:34.33`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Ornloff (~twobit235@pool-173-72-72-147.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net)`
`19:34.56`	`Araxnid`	`ah yes!`
`19:35.00`	`Araxnid`	`thanks)`
`19:35.12`	`Mephs`	`what do ppl think of vs. TD games?`
`19:35.21`	`Araxnid`	`vs TD?`
`19:35.25`	`Mephs`	`like 2v2 TD`
`19:35.27`	`Araxnid`	`ah`
`19:35.38`	`Mephs`	`that terraforming game`
`19:35.39`	`Mephs`	`i had a thought`
`19:35.48`	`Mephs`	`of making it a weird kind of TD`
`19:35.55`	`Mephs`	`with some tug elements tied in`
`19:36.05`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Leaderboard (5bb46379@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.99.121)`
`19:36.16`	`Leaderboard`	`Damned Zealot tower :o`
`19:36.50`	`Tordy`	`meee too!!!`
`19:36.52`	`Tordy`	`:[]`
`19:37.01`	`Tordy`	`seeing as how it's all about it tugs and tds lately`
`19:37.07`	`Tordy`	`a tug & td combined?`
`19:37.14`	`Tordy`	`it'll hit the first page in no time`
`19:38.41`	`Leaderboard`	`It's called Wintermaul wars`
`19:38.47`	`Leaderboard`	`I'm actually making one :p`
`19:39.47`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`19:40.43`	`Vulfe`	`How does one combine a tug and a TD`
`19:40.46`	`Vulfe`	`MAGIC`
`19:40.48`	`Vulfe`	`......`
`19:40.52`	`*** join/#sc2mapster currydevil (currydevil@96.39.180.160)`
`19:41.20`	`*** join/#sc2mapster EternalWraith (c636cab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.54.202.182)`
`19:42.10`	`Araxnid`	`hm, strange`
`19:42.15`	`Mephs`	`well`
`19:42.16`	`Araxnid`	`where i need to import sound files?`
`19:42.19`	`Mephs`	`basically`
`19:42.24`	`Triceron`	`vs TD?`
`19:42.27`	`Mephs`	`the idea was a game where you're on a barren landscape`
`19:42.31`	`Triceron`	`so have your towers able to attack the other guy?`
`19:42.33`	`Mephs`	`you terraform earth and can raise/lower the land`
`19:42.38`	`Mephs`	`then eventually you can spawn the tug units`
`19:42.43`	`Mephs`	`which follow your terrain`
`19:43.00`	`Mephs`	`and at the same time you have to build some kinds towery things to stop their units once the terrain connects`
`19:43.02`	`Araxnid`	`it assets/sound?`
`19:43.05`	`Araxnid`	`or smh other file?`
`19:43.52`	`Mephs`	`tbqh i hate both types of games but idk felt like putting a new twist on something`
`19:44.09`	`Tordy`	`now that i think about, it isn't too different from nexus wars cept from the terrain part`
`19:44.16`	`Mephs`	`cept`
`19:44.19`	`Tordy`	`and the towers atack`
`19:44.24`	`Mephs`	`instead of making a maze of photon cannons`
`19:44.28`	`Tordy`	`:)`
`19:44.32`	`Mephs`	`you make a maze out of the terrain`
`19:44.33`	`Mephs`	`:p`
`19:44.34`	`Tordy`	`oh`
`19:44.36`	`Tordy`	`ok`
`19:44.41`	`Mephs`	`you build the defense and the offense`
`19:44.41`	`Tordy`	`hi Mephs`
`19:44.51`	`Mephs`	`hi torday.`
`19:45.00`	`Tordy`	`hopefully it's not too much "work" for the lazy skilless player base`
`19:45.08`	`Tordy`	`:)`
`19:45.21`	`Tordy`	`to think both defense and offense`
`19:50.28`	`Vulfe`	`lol.`
`19:50.48`	`Araxnid`	`whatta hell`
`19:50.57`	`Araxnid`	`i create a sound file, add a sound in .ogg format`
`19:51.07`	`Araxnid`	`and i cant hear it in test window(`
`19:52.44`	`Araxnid`	`ah nvm, loos like silly bug about "you need to restart galaxy editor, and then launch you map again, thank you"`
`19:55.26`	`Vulfe`	`yeah`
`19:55.28`	`Vulfe`	`love that.`
`20:00.23`	`Araxnid`	`but still no sound in game`
`20:00.27`	`Araxnid`	`hm..`
`20:02.25`	`Araxnid`	`it wokrs in preview..`
`20:02.26`	`Araxnid`	`hmmm`
`20:02.35`	`Araxnid`	`too much stranges for this day`
`20:02.40`	`Araxnid`	`going to slepp.`
`20:03.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`20:04.27`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ekcolnovkol\|slee (ekcolnovko@pool-98-116-29-39.nycmny.east.verizon.net)`
`20:10.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@69.57.184.216)`
`20:12.43`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mephs (~mephs@c-67-165-211-45.hsd1.co.comcast.net)`
`20:13.50`	`*** join/#sc2mapster EternalWraith (c636cab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.54.202.182)`
`20:14.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RaydenUni (~rayden@adsl-69-231-124-208.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net)`
`20:15.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`20:19.17`	`*** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (516f48df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.72.223)`
`20:19.36`	`wOlfLinG`	`hey ppl`
`20:19.49`	`wOlfLinG`	`hate my PCs internet -.-`
`20:20.52`	`*** join/#sc2mapster IDEATH (63061123@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.6.17.35)`
`20:21.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ornloff (~twobit235@pool-173-72-72-147.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net)`
`20:21.22`	`wOlfLinG`	`Also, is there any way to make triggers work in a mod?`
`20:21.34`	`wOlfLinG`	`Cause whenever i try, they don't run :/`
`20:21.37`	`IDEATH`	`can someone please help me with taking off permanent cloak from the dark templar and zeratul??`
`20:21.47`	`wOlfLinG`	`IDEATH: Unit flags`
`20:21.58`	`Ornloff`	`uncheck cloaked`
`20:22.00`	`wOlfLinG`	`Uncheck 'Cloaked'`
`20:22.01`	`IDEATH`	`how do i get to them?`
`20:22.10`	`Ornloff`	`in the data tab`
`20:22.15`	`Ornloff`	`f7 i believe`
`20:22.21`	`Ornloff`	`find each unit`
`20:22.26`	`IDEATH`	`yea`
`20:22.40`	`wOlfLinG`	`Find Stats- Flags i think it is`
`20:22.55`	`wOlfLinG`	`Then find 'cloaked' in those flags and uncheck it`
`20:23.18`	`IDEATH`	`i dont see flags`
`20:23.26`	`wOlfLinG`	`Should be there`
`20:23.31`	`wOlfLinG`	`Make sure raw data is off`
`20:23.37`	`wOlfLinG`	`And all others are on`
`20:23.56`	`wOlfLinG`	`Well, not the one that makes it have a nicer interface`
`20:23.56`	`IDEATH`	`yea i do`
`20:24.02`	`Ornloff`	`i explained it to u in a chat.`
`20:24.16`	`Ornloff`	`see it ID?`
`20:24.34`	`IDEATH`	`i only see 'stats - facing`
`20:24.36`	`currydevil`	`Ok, Flags is on the unit tab when you select the unit.`
`20:24.58`	`Ornloff`	`dude`
`20:25.02`	`Ornloff`	`i explained it to you in fine detail.`
`20:25.16`	`Ornloff`	`Ornloff: find zeratul.`
`20:25.16`	`Ornloff`	`[4:23pm] Ornloff: have everything in succession in the top`
`20:25.16`	`Ornloff`	`[4:23pm] Ornloff: theres 5 buttons`
`20:25.17`	`Ornloff`	`[4:23pm] Ornloff: have them all pressed.`
`20:25.17`	`Ornloff`	`[4:23pm] Ornloff: all the way at the bottom is unit - flags`
`20:25.17`	`Ornloff`	`[4:23pm] Ornloff: double click it`
`20:25.17`	`Ornloff`	`[4:23pm] Ornloff: in there under cannot be clicked/highlighted is cloaked`
`20:25.18`	`Ornloff`	`[4:23pm] Ornloff: uncheck it`
`20:25.20`	`IDEATH`	`i no but i dont see it! =(`
`20:25.48`	`Ornloff`	`you clicked zeratul?`
`20:25.53`	`Ornloff`	`just his name in the units tab`
`20:26.13`	`IDEATH`	`yea`
`20:26.21`	`Ornloff`	`okay`
`20:26.25`	`Ornloff`	`on the right hand side`
`20:26.27`	`currydevil`	`Wolfling, dunno if it suits your purposes, but just copy/paste the triggers? unless you are making the mod for public use`
`20:26.40`	`Ornloff`	`ID`
`20:26.42`	`currydevil`	`then I dunno =X`
`20:26.44`	`Ornloff`	`goto the priv chat w me`
`20:26.45`	`Ornloff`	`ill explain.`
`20:26.46`	`IDEATH`	`yea?`
`20:26.52`	`IDEATH`	`ok how?`
`20:26.53`	`Ornloff`	`k?`
`20:26.57`	`Ornloff`	`isn't it showing up`
`20:27.01`	`Ornloff`	`idk where your chatting from`
`20:27.02`	`currydevil`	`right click on his name > query`
`20:27.04`	`Ornloff`	`whether irc or not`
`20:27.08`	`currydevil`	`or left click`
`20:27.21`	`currydevil`	`whichever click brings up query`
`20:27.36`	`Ornloff`	`got it?`
`20:28.03`	`Ornloff`	`ID?`
`20:28.10`	`IDEATH`	`i donno`
`20:28.14`	`Ornloff`	`....`
`20:28.18`	`Ornloff`	`don't say I don't know`
`20:28.20`	`Ornloff`	`hate that answer`
`20:28.21`	`Ornloff`	`haha`
`20:28.28`	`IDEATH`	`lol`
`20:28.32`	`IDEATH`	`me to =(`
`20:28.34`	`Ornloff`	`tryn to help`
`20:28.39`	`Ornloff`	`left click my name`
`20:28.40`	`Ornloff`	`do query`
`20:30.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (516f48df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.72.223)`
`20:31.57`	`Tordy`	`hi Otixa!`
`20:33.05`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`20:36.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ozo (~Ozoft@c80-216-86-51.bredband.comhem.se)`
`20:37.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ozo_ (~Ozoft@c80-216-86-51.bredband.comhem.se)`
`20:38.45`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ozo__ (~Ozoft@c80-216-86-51.bredband.comhem.se)`
`20:39.47`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ozo___ (~Ozoft@c80-216-86-51.bredband.comhem.se)`
`20:40.30`	`wOlfLinG`	`Zomg! Tordy hasn't said Hi to me yet D: The apocalypse has come!`
`20:41.08`	`*** join/#sc2mapster nexius (~nexius@524BFD41.cm-4-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl)`
`20:44.31`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ozo (~Ozoft@c80-216-86-51.bredband.comhem.se)`
`20:46.30`	`Ozo`	`hello ;o`
`20:50.20`	`currydevil`	`Anyone on US willing and able to do a 2 sec map test with me?`
`20:52.41`	`progammer`	`click invite button probably took 2 sec, not gonna happen :)`
`20:53.39`	`currydevil`	`ok, well ........ smartass xD`
`20:53.49`	`currydevil`	`just a min or two IN GAME, anyone? =P`
`20:55.52`	`currydevil`	`i just need to test my dialog, make sure i got my numbers right. anyone? =\|`
`20:56.59`	`Tordy`	`what map!?`
`20:57.00`	`Tordy`	`i wanna play!`
`20:57.03`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`20:57.11`	`Tordy`	`hi progammer :4`
`20:57.15`	`currydevil`	`lol. it's my rpg map. testing my stats dialog`
`20:57.21`	`progammer`	`hai Tordy`
`20:57.57`	`currydevil`	`is that a yes?`
`20:58.27`	`Creation`	`rofl, I just took a nap and had a nightmare my file was corrupted`
`20:58.29`	`Creation`	`backup time`
`20:58.39`	`currydevil`	`lol`
`20:58.59`	`currydevil`	`I messed up mine the other dy by having multiple actors selected, and starting removing the token values..`
`20:59.13`	`currydevil`	`even though i put them back in the right spot... every single model on my map was broken`
`20:59.49`	`currydevil`	`ok, last call for a tester.. anyone will do.`
`21:00.43`	`Creation`	`yikes`
`21:00.55`	`currydevil`	`mmmmhm`
`21:01.07`	`Creation`	`did you try resetting to parent?`
`21:01.11`	`*** join/#sc2mapster fromethius (d03a751d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.58.117.29)`
`21:01.11`	`Creation`	`or were they custom`
`21:01.12`	`currydevil`	`I don't want to wait 8 hours to know if i did it right... lawl`
`21:01.24`	`currydevil`	`they were custom. I had a auto backup saved 20 min earlier`
`21:01.32`	`currydevil`	`I lost .. one model i had to redo`
`21:01.35`	`currydevil`	`that was it`
`21:01.55`	`Creation`	`ah thats not too bad`
`21:01.55`	`currydevil`	`Tordy is a tease.`
`21:02.05`	`Creation`	`curry i can help u test`
`21:02.09`	`currydevil`	`ok =)`
`21:02.18`	`Creation`	`can u help me after?`
`21:02.20`	`currydevil`	`hmm don't think I added you in game, did you add me? magnade.936`
`21:02.27`	`currydevil`	`sure i have a couple min if it's quick`
`21:02.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Pierrot (Pierrot@ARennes-256-1-115-143.w90-32.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`21:02.57`	`Pierrot`	`Hi all !`
`21:03.09`	`Creation`	`ok`
`21:03.15`	`Creation`	`you are US right?`
`21:03.20`	`currydevil`	`yes`
`21:03.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster fgenesis (~fg@p5B03F8FE.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`21:04.11`	`Creation`	`creation.673`
`21:04.29`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Megalon (~Megalon@d86-32-5-113.cust.tele2.at)`
`21:05.01`	`Tordy`	`look at my loaf`
`21:05.04`	`Tordy`	`my loaf is amazing`
`21:05.04`	`Ornloff`	`creation u need help`
`21:05.05`	`Ornloff`	`?`
`21:05.15`	`Tordy`	`wow`
`21:05.24`	`Tordy`	`the CGI for this game is freakin amazing`
`21:05.34`	`Tordy`	`i'd say Blizzard level CGI in terms of looks`
`21:06.21`	`Vulfe`	`O_o`
`21:06.22`	`Vulfe`	`o_O`
`21:06.34`	`Vulfe`	`what game`
`21:06.36`	`Mephs`	`blizzard cgi isn't that incredible`
`21:06.47`	`Vulfe`	`blizzard cgi is pretty good`
`21:06.54`	`Tordy`	`pretty good!?`
`21:06.55`	`Vulfe`	`as in better than anything I could ever do in my dreams`
`21:06.59`	`Mephs`	`well yea`
`21:07.00`	`Tordy`	`show me a game that matches it`
`21:07.03`	`Tordy`	`or better than it`
`21:07.08`	`ekcolnovkol\|slee`	`pixar cgi is pretty good`
`21:07.11`	`Tordy`	`nooo`
`21:07.16`	`Tordy`	`im saying video game cgi`
`21:07.16`	`Tordy`	`>_>`
`21:07.27`	`Tordy`	`dont say cgi is cgi!`
`21:07.28`	`Tordy`	`:[]`
`21:07.56`	`Tordy`	`obviously the ones made for super high budget movies are the best`
`21:08.06`	`Tordy`	`but let's take a look at video games here`
`21:08.09`	`Vulfe`	`yeah basically`
`21:08.14`	`Tordy`	`im talking about this`
`21:08.14`	`Tordy`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ngrlXHv4UM`
`21:08.18`	`Vulfe`	`but super high budget movie's don't contain zeratul`
`21:08.20`	`Tordy`	`pretty damn crazy`
`21:08.22`	`Vulfe`	`and are therefore worse`
`21:08.23`	`Mephs`	`IRL CGI is better CGI`
`21:08.44`	`Mephs`	`they got the pores on ya pastey white skin detailed as FUCK`
`21:10.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster EternalWraith (c636cab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.54.202.182)`
`21:10.22`	`ekcolnovkol\|slee`	`lol`
`21:10.29`	`Tordy`	`hi ekcolnovkol\|slee`
`21:10.38`	`ekcolnovkol\|slee`	`hai ther`
`21:13.41`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ert3_mobile (~ert3@c-71-204-230-71.hsd1.sc.comcast.net)`
`21:14.32`	`Tordy`	`ekcolnovkol\|slee do you know how to hide the command card while allowing hotkeys to those command card slots to work?`
`21:14.49`	`Tordy`	`does ANYONe know how to do this`
`21:14.53`	`Tordy`	`because it would save so much time`
`21:15.17`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Computerpunk (~Computerp@85.186.122.45)`
`21:15.25`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`21:16.22`	`Tordy`	`no one? :(`
`21:16.49`	`Tordy`	`heck maybe instead of actually hiding it, mask it w/ a transparent thingy iuno`
`21:20.29`	`Tordy`	`im drawi a blank here`
`21:20.39`	`Tordy`	`LET'S DO THIS`
`21:21.54`	`*** join/#sc2mapster TinyBrain (~Sporkmong@c-98-248-33-241.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`21:23.04`	`Tordy`	`how do you add your own slash commands in your map?`
`21:23.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`21:23.13`	`Tordy`	`like you know there's /dance that's intergrated into sc2`
`21:23.18`	`*** join/#sc2mapster HeyYou (~Sporkmong@c-98-248-33-241.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`21:23.30`	`Tordy`	`becasue i dont want other players to see what commands they typed`
`21:23.40`	`Tordy`	`to unclutter the chat`
`21:23.42`	`Tordy`	`mainly`
`21:23.42`	`Tordy`	`yes]\`
`21:23.43`	`Tordy`	`?`
`21:23.45`	`Tordy`	`:)`
`21:25.31`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Hjalte (~chatzilla@cpe.ge-0-2-0-835.arcnqu2.customer.tele.dk)`
`21:25.54`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Jyggaa (ordog@unaffiliated/jygga)`
`21:30.22`	`HeyYou`	`I want to build an ability akin to mana drain in WC3. I've got the Damage/Modify Unit set working with a validator to make it transactional. The problem comes in when I go to create a beam between the caster and the target. Everything I've tried results in no beam appearing. Suggestions?`
`21:32.22`	`Mephs`	`how do you rebump a map onto the "new" list?`
`21:32.38`	`Mephs`	`i see maps that have been around forever on the new list`
`21:33.01`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`21:33.32`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Demo_ (ae145f89@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.20.95.137)`
`21:33.55`	`Tordy`	`iunno publishing a new version might do that`
`21:33.58`	`Tordy`	`i lied`
`21:34.10`	`Tordy`	`delete & publish i mean`
`21:34.35`	`Demo_`	`On my pygalisk, the HP Bar, is floating above the unit, I want it to be on the unit. Changing the offset to 0 worked for all of the other units, but not the pygalisk. Does anyone know why?`
`21:35.00`	`Mephs`	`doesn't deleting and republish put it back to 0.1?`
`21:35.12`	`Mephs`	`version`
`21:35.16`	`Tordy`	`no idea`
`21:35.19`	`Tordy`	`havent tried >;>`
`21:35.44`	`Mephs`	`guess i can find out.`
`21:35.51`	`Tordy`	`noooooooooooooooo dont do it man!`
`21:36.18`	`Mephs`	`it probably reset popularity too though`
`21:39.13`	`Tordy`	`boooooooooooooooooooooooom`
`21:45.29`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Cronos\|zzZZz (~mattb@network173-210.wctc.net)`
`21:45.37`	`Skizot`	`http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Contra_heads_03.jpg`
`21:45.39`	`Skizot`	`:D`
`21:45.49`	`Skizot`	`i love triceron!`
`21:46.46`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Sporkmonger (~Sporkmong@c-98-248-33-241.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`21:47.06`	`Tordy`	`:O`
`21:47.10`	`Tordy`	`that's amzzing`
`21:47.12`	`Tordy`	`i want`
`21:47.30`	`Skizot`	`tought titties.`
`21:47.32`	`Arthas-4`	`damn nice Skizot`
`21:47.34`	`Skizot`	`contra map only.`
`21:49.23`	`Tordy`	`FOR AIR`
`21:49.30`	`Tordy`	`*auir`
`21:49.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Cronos (~mattb@network173-210.wctc.net)`
`21:50.08`	`Mephs`	`i do love my air`
`21:50.41`	`Arthas-4`	`Unable to move existing archive (Cannot create a file when that file already exists.): D:\Development\SC2A\TBS\Testmap_.SC2Map`
`21:50.49`	`Arthas-4`	`anyone know the solution for that problem?`
`21:50.56`	`Tordy`	`wait what`
`21:51.02`	`Mephs`	`yea`
`21:51.04`	`Arthas-4`	`it seems like the editor suddenly wants to save the map as .sc2map instead of components`
`21:51.06`	`Mephs`	`you gotta shut the editor down and restart`
`21:51.09`	`Tordy`	`does that happen when you wave?`
`21:51.10`	`Tordy`	`:[`
`21:51.11`	`Arthas-4`	`I know I can re-save em and get rid of it`
`21:51.14`	`Tordy`	`*save`
`21:51.17`	`Arthas-4`	`Mephs doesnt do the trick`
`21:51.20`	`Arthas-4`	`Tordy ay`
`21:51.25`	`Mephs`	`i get that randomly with sounds`
`21:51.35`	`Mephs`	`where it locks the file in use or something`
`21:51.39`	`Arthas-4`	`even more annoying that the editor cant overwrite`
`21:51.45`	`Arthas-4`	`hmm`
`21:53.51`	`Twiner\|Inlaws`	`no one is alive today huh`
`21:55.02`	`deathnight114`	`hm`
`21:55.10`	`deathnight114`	`did they ever get rid of that damned immortal warpin hack?`
`21:55.20`	`Arthas-4`	`yes`
`21:55.24`	`deathnight114`	`ahh, kk`
`21:55.37`	`deathnight114`	`I just got hit with ten of em`
`21:55.42`	`deathnight114`	`and the guy only had two robotics bay`
`21:55.49`	`deathnight114`	`so that kinda threw me off >.>`
`21:55.52`	`deathnight114`	`i won though lol`
`21:55.54`	`deathnight114`	`zeals pwn all`
`21:55.56`	`deathnight114`	`>:)`
`21:56.28`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Tordy (Tordy@pool-98-116-82-152.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)`
`21:56.41`	`Ozo`	`bah, brainfreeze, where do i modify the requirements to be able to build a missile turret without having a engineering bay?`
`21:57.41`	`Ozo`	`hate it, it's like when you forget the simplest translations etc :P`
`21:58.19`	`deathnight114`	`ahh turns out he was just chrono boosing like crazy`
`22:01.17`	`*** join/#sc2mapster FRoZeN (~lul@0606ds6-od.0.fullrate.dk)`
`22:03.34`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Cronos\|zzZZz (~mattb@network173-210.wctc.net)`
`22:04.15`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (6d29e235@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.41.226.53)`
`22:04.36`	`Skizot`	`http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Contra_03.jpg`
`22:05.01`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`22:07.16`	`Sixen`	`skizot, that's awesome`
`22:07.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Cronos (~mattb@network173-210.wctc.net)`
`22:07.44`	`*** join/#sc2mapster FRoZeN (~lul@0606ds6-od.0.fullrate.dk)`
`22:08.30`	`Skizot`	`triceron made them for my contra map`
`22:09.40`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~IceChat7@ip-114-201.static.adsl.cheapnet.it)`
`22:13.01`	`Demo_`	`So how do you change the offset of a bar on the model? Because changing it to 0 on the actor only makes it drop a little for Ultralisks, and I need it dropped more. Going negative does nothing.`
`22:13.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster rrowland (~Ryan@pool-71-103-164-22.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)`
`22:13.53`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ordog__ (Teq@e179073239.adsl.alicedsl.de)`
`22:14.47`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Saucy (4645865a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.69.134.90)`
`22:15.22`	`Saucy`	`How would I get it so when a player puts there mouse over a region an image or something pops up within that region?`
`22:17.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`22:18.23`	`Arthas-4`	`Demo_ going negative does nothing?`
`22:18.30`	`Arthas-4`	`for me it removed the bar entirly :p`
`22:18.36`	`Demo_`	`yes`
`22:18.41`	`Demo_`	`that's what I meant by nothing`
`22:18.57`	`Demo_`	`removing it, to me is doing nothing towards what I want`
`22:19.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`22:19.08`	`Demo_`	`why even make it negative if it doesn't work`
`22:21.28`	`Arthas-4`	`yet another bug :p`
`22:21.31`	`Demo_`	`It's just the ultralisk/pygalisk model that does it`
`22:21.43`	`Demo_`	`where it's above their head no matter what I try`
`22:21.54`	`Demo_`	`if I change their model in that actor to siege tank it works`
`22:22.48`	`Demo_`	`Sigh, bug has to stay for a bit GRRRRRRR`
`22:23.00`	`Demo_`	`Not releasing my map until they fix banks anyways`
`22:23.05`	`Demo_`	`so not a big deal`
`22:23.12`	`ekcolnovkol\|slee`	`where is triceron`
`22:23.12`	`ekcolnovkol\|slee`	`:`
`22:23.22`	`Arthas-4`	`i tested with the ghost so that is no go aswell`
`22:28.25`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tordy (~Tordy@pool-98-116-82-152.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)`
`22:28.34`	`Tordy`	`gross`
`22:29.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`22:31.57`	`*** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss1 (~Christoph@uawifi-nat-210-24.arizona.edu)`
`22:33.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`22:35.56`	`Sporkmonger`	`Are there any existing abilities in SC2 melee/campaign that create a continuous beam effect from caster to target? i.e., not an attack but a targetted ability`
`22:38.12`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Azoth (~Shane@guest-wireless-207-151-251-042.usc.edu)`
`22:38.59`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Sixen1 (~Sixen@173-25-23-86.client.mchsi.com)`
`22:39.01`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`22:39.10`	`Saucy`	`You know in the campaign where it has a greenish box around an area where they want you to place bunkers and siege tanks.. how would I do this in my map?`
`22:39.36`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes`
`22:40.57`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ`
`22:43.41`	`Demo_`	`How do you remove the "Max Range" white circle around point defense drones, and siege tanks?`
`22:45.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`22:47.47`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Talila_ (~Lilianna@adsl-75-15-128-42.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net)`
`22:48.23`	`Demo_`	`Nvm, got it. Thanks.`
`22:49.11`	`Saucy`	`I'm trying to recreate something that was in the campaign can anyone help me?`
`22:51.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster A1win^ (a1win@nikita.tnnet.fi)`
`22:52.10`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MysT_DooM (~MysT_DooM@ool-44c48774.dyn.optonline.net)`
`22:52.11`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Douilspee (~theo@cha92-8-82-231-217-163.fbx.proxad.net)`
`22:52.13`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kalekin (~nnscript@41-132-249-42.dsl.mweb.co.za)`
`22:52.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster jorgenpt (~jorgenpt@arachnophobia.daxnet.org)`
`22:53.04`	`Saucy`	`How can I recreate this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n1hQeEwKkQ#t=1m40s`
`22:53.13`	`Saucy`	`When the box goes around the statue`
`22:53.20`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mephs (~mephs@c-67-165-211-45.hsd1.co.comcast.net)`
`22:53.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`22:53.37`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Otixa (~Otixa@cpc3-staf7-2-0-cust220.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com)`
`22:53.40`	`Skizot`	`.....`
`22:54.02`	`Saucy`	`what?`
`22:54.06`	`Tordy`	`the red box?`
`22:54.11`	`Saucy`	`Yea the red box`
`22:54.26`	`Tordy`	`create a`
`22:54.27`	`Tordy`	`iunno`
`22:54.29`	`Tordy`	`lemme check`
`22:54.39`	`Tordy`	`you could look at the campaign btw`
`22:54.41`	`Tordy`	`in the editor`
`22:54.47`	`Saucy`	`hu?`
`22:54.48`	`*** join/#sc2mapster nimiety (~email@c-68-32-3-110.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)`
`22:54.49`	`Saucy`	`really?`
`22:54.52`	`Tordy`	`yea`
`22:54.56`	`Saucy`	`hoooww?`
`22:55.08`	`Tordy`	`Open -> Campaign tab`
`22:55.21`	`Saucy`	`oh snap`
`22:55.22`	`Saucy`	`you can`
`22:55.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster WAR (43b99d58@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.185.157.88)`
`22:56.35`	`Arthas-4`	`anyone here familiar with galaxy / amount of memory we can allocate`
`22:56.58`	`Tordy`	`2MB?`
`22:57.10`	`Tordy`	`:O`
`22:57.10`	`Arthas-4`	`so ive heard, but i cant get it to compute`
`22:57.13`	`Creation`	`wait what?`
`22:57.19`	`Creation`	`memory to allocate?`
`22:57.24`	`Arthas-4`	`err`
`22:57.28`	`Creation`	`we talking banks here or max trigs?`
`22:57.28`	`Tordy`	`what do you mean you cant compute`
`22:57.30`	`Arthas-4`	`available memory to us`
`22:57.42`	`Creation`	`per maps or total?`
`22:57.44`	`Arthas-4`	`I mean it doesnt look right when i look at it`
`22:57.47`	`Arthas-4`	`Ive made an empty map`
`22:57.59`	`Creation`	`i think they increased the size to 20MB`
`22:58.03`	`Arthas-4`	`if I calc on it I should be able to have 64 * 8192 ints`
`22:58.22`	`Tordy`	`he means memory you allocate to main memory`
`22:58.23`	`Arthas-4`	`- 2*64 (I assume the pointer is 2 byte?)`
`22:58.23`	`Creation`	`are you talking file size?`
`22:58.26`	`Arthas-4`	`no`
`22:58.28`	`Arthas-4`	`memory`
`22:58.31`	`Creation`	`idk`
`22:58.36`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`going to record my boss video :O`
`22:58.36`	`Bibendus`	`is no longer away : Gone for 48 minutes 59 seconds`
`22:58.43`	`Tordy`	`Bibendus noooooo`
`22:58.49`	`Bibendus`	`bibendus yeeeee`
`22:58.51`	`Bibendus`	`why no lol`
`22:58.51`	`Tordy`	`:)`
`22:58.55`	`Tordy`	`hi Bibendus`
`22:58.59`	`Bibendus`	`hi :D`
`22:59.02`	`Arthas-4`	`but it stops me at 598192 ints + 1138`
`22:59.05`	`Bibendus`	`and why no?`
`22:59.06`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`22:59.11`	`Tordy`	`cuz`
`22:59.31`	`Bibendus`	`cuz cuz`
`22:59.35`	`Arthas-4`	`cous cous`
`22:59.36`	`Arthas-4`	`:O`
`22:59.38`	`Tordy`	`say hi to ekcolnovkol\|slee to me`
`22:59.51`	`Bibendus`	`why tordy`
`22:59.52`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`22:59.56`	`Tordy`	`i miss otixa`
`23:00.01`	`Tordy`	`where did he go? :[`
`23:00.03`	`Bibendus`	`why shouldn't I record the boss?`
`23:00.12`	`Tordy`	`cuz if you do`
`23:00.20`	`Tordy`	`be prepared`
`23:00.21`	`Bibendus`	`the world will end?`
`23:00.23`	`Tordy`	`that's all i gotta say`
`23:00.27`	`Bibendus`	`oh k :D`
`23:00.46`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ThunderLord (60e2f012@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.226.240.18)`
`23:00.58`	`Otixa`	`roars`
`23:01.13`	`Arthas-4`	`its alive! :p`
`23:01.19`	`Arthas-4`	`lurking :D`
`23:01.43`	`ThunderLord`	`For the Trigger event "Effect is used (Interger value, Game Link Value) what dose the Interger do?`
`23:05.01`	`ThunderLord`	`anyone know??`
`23:06.20`	`Bibendus`	`whoa i did it`
`23:06.21`	`Bibendus`	`epic fight :D`
`23:07.03`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`23:07.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster harl (harl@dslb-088-076-043-225.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`23:09.55`	`Bibendus`	`just about lurking`
`23:09.56`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`23:10.24`	`Tordy`	`G=UNIT`
`23:10.39`	`Tordy`	`Integer value is player`
`23:11.01`	`Tordy`	`Otixa is alive!!!`
`23:15.10`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Jygga (Teq@unaffiliated/jygga)`
`23:15.12`	`*** join/#sc2mapster progammer_ (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210)`
`23:15.20`	`*** join/#sc2mapster EternalWraith (c636cab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.54.202.182)`
`23:15.57`	`Arthas-4`	`seems like you can push alot of data into tables :p`
`23:19.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`23:24.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Foxor (~Megalon@d86-32-5-113.cust.tele2.at)`
`23:25.03`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`23:33.20`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Tordy (~Tordy@pool-98-116-82-152.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)`
`23:37.44`	`Demonette`	`nighty night guys`
`23:37.57`	`Arthas-4`	`nn`
`23:39.56`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes`
`23:40.37`	`*** join/#sc2mapster FireryRage (~Firery@CPE001b2476d3e9-CM00159a07499a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`23:43.29`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`yeeeey`
`23:43.29`	`Bibendus`	`is no longer away : Gone for 33 minutes 32 seconds`
`23:43.31`	`Bibendus`	`epic video :D`
`23:46.24`	`Otixa`	`smacks Bibendus`
`23:47.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`23:51.43`	`Arthas-4`	`~calc 1+1`
`23:53.24`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`23:56.33`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Ornloff (~twobit235@pool-173-72-72-147.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net)`
`23:56.43`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ornloff (~twobit235@pool-173-72-72-147.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net)`
`23:57.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`23:59.03`	`Bibendus`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9id-qUSyL8`
`23:59.05`	`Bibendus`	`here it is !`
`23:59.28`	`Otixa`	`smacks Bibendus more`

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.