IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20100924

`00:00.00`	`Demonette`	`My slime green shape ship had different weapons...`
`00:00.08`	`Demonette`	`and was able to use them together...`
`00:00.23`	`Demonette`	`well i think they where differnent ones`
`00:00.36`	`Demonette`	`but i hasn't used any tower at all`
`00:00.45`	`SilverSeraphim`	`how do you make a trigger display some text`
`00:00.49`	`SilverSeraphim`	`so i can test this trigger`
`00:00.58`	`KillerGymSox`	`depends on where you want the text located`
`00:01.04`	`SilverSeraphim`	`anywhere that i can see it`
`00:01.07`	`KillerGymSox`	`you mean like a text message?`
`00:01.08`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Shawn\|rawr (~chatzilla@96.26.230.223)`
`00:01.08`	`SilverSeraphim`	`i just need to know the trigger works`
`00:01.10`	`SilverSeraphim`	`KillerGymSox: yes`
`00:01.22`	`Demonette`	`i really don't have a plan what a turret is doing... i think he is only for targeting a target without using the units angle or?`
`00:01.27`	`KillerGymSox`	`I fooled around with this a bit and its fun to mess with text tags more than text messages`
`00:01.36`	`SilverSeraphim`	`text tags?`
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`00:01.50`	`KillerGymSox`	`yeah. let me give u an example.. im gonna open my map for reference. one sec`
`00:01.54`	`Demonette`	`search text... there you will find a trigger that send a text message to a player...`
`00:02.11`	`Demonette`	`that search field is very useful...`
`00:02.37`	`Aetos`	`I have a problem with sound actors`
`00:02.43`	`Demonette`	`I know Aetos`
`00:02.54`	`KillerGymSox`	`okay.. so i basically made a map where you have a larva unit and you can eat cherries to get +1 to gas which u can spend on upgrading your larva. So I wanted it to say +1 and tell me that I got the 1 as right?`
`00:02.55`	`Aetos`	`just tested it, and it only creates one instance of it`
`00:03.07`	`Aetos`	`once I create a new unit, the last actor just stops playing, but it doesn't create a new one`
`00:03.13`	`SilverSeraphim`	`KillerGymSox: i think i see how this works`
`00:03.25`	`KillerGymSox`	`With text tag I was able to create the text tag to say +1, I was able to make it start out right where my unit was and then move the text tag upwards and then destroy the text tag`
`00:05.07`	`Demonette`	`aren't text tags acteurs?`
`00:05.25`	`KillerGymSox`	`Create Text Tag at position of unit, show text last tex tag created, set velocity of text tag (90 degrees for it moving upward), then finally destroy last text tag created`
`00:05.43`	`SilverSeraphim`	`k the text tag works`
`00:05.50`	`SilverSeraphim`	`the part of the trigger that adds a turret doesn't`
`00:05.56`	`KillerGymSox`	`im not sure about that demon.. I created them using triggers`
`00:06.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I doubt they are actors`
`00:06.13`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`sincerely`
`00:06.18`	`KillerGymSox`	`i dont think so either`
`00:07.13`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh i seen a text tag acteur somewhere`
`00:07.29`	`Demonette`	`it's used for the automatic refinery in the campaign`
`00:07.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`there is a text actoer`
`00:07.49`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`or, actor.`
`00:07.53`	`Demonette`	`and it show the +4 in green whenenver they create gas`
`00:07.56`	`KillerGymSox`	`right but the text tag itself isnt an actor`
`00:08.00`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Which seems to work the same way as text tag but it's harder to use`
`00:08.04`	`Demonette`	`yey i think i meant those...`
`00:08.07`	`Demonette`	`well what ever`
`00:08.16`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I mean, it technically could be an actor, but it's irrelevant since the game doesn't want to reference it that way`
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`00:08.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and it's self contained anyways`
`00:08.27`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`All the things a text tag needs to do, it does`
`00:08.27`	`KillerGymSox`	`but what i explained to silver is how you create that effect where the text goes skyward and then disappears`
`00:08.37`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I suppose if you want passive text, you'd use a text actor`
`00:09.41`	`Moop`	`can i use 1 actor for multiple units?`
`00:09.57`	`Demonette`	`yey`
`00:10.06`	`Demonette`	`but it will take double work to get it work right...`
`00:10.11`	`KillerGymSox`	`I am having trouble with the WASD and WOW camera controls tutorial OneTwoSC made. I got it to "Work" but when I change the camera angle using the right click and it conflicts with the terrain it zooms the camera away from the unit instead of zooming in.`
`00:10.11`	`SilverSeraphim`	`KillerGymSox: do you need to do some kind of "wait" command before destroying the tag?`
`00:10.22`	`KillerGymSox`	`yeah`
`00:10.28`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`WASD is pointless`
`00:10.28`	`KillerGymSox`	`let me check how long i used`
`00:10.28`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but`
`00:10.30`	`SilverSeraphim`	`just "wait"`
`00:10.44`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`there is no "just wait"`
`00:10.50`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`well`
`00:10.53`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`actually that might be wrong`
`00:10.55`	`SilverSeraphim`	`yeah i found it`
`00:10.59`	`SilverSeraphim`	`it's just called "wait" =]`
`00:11.05`	`KillerGymSox`	`silver in between every trigger i created for that text tag animation i had it wait for 1 real time second`
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`00:11.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`whoa`
`00:11.16`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that fucking action selection changed`
`00:11.20`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`this looks weird as shit`
`00:11.30`	`KillerGymSox`	`but fool around with wait times to see what looks good`
`00:11.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`"wait" still takes parameters SilverSeraphim`
`00:12.08`	`SilverSeraphim`	`yeah i see`
`00:12.24`	`Demonette`	`triggers lag online...`
`00:12.41`	`Otixa`	`.`
`00:13.03`	`Demonette`	`Rumor has it Otixa hasn't talked but still is there...`
`00:13.03`	`Otixa`	`..`
`00:13.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`rumor has it Otixa is a big dumb gay`
`00:13.22`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`(owned)`
`00:13.38`	`KillerGymSox`	`i fooled around with text messages and found out i enjoyed text tags more. Text messages force you to pick a specific predesignated location for where it will appear whereas text tags allow you to attach them to units and points and such`
`00:14.03`	`Otixa`	`... Â¬_Â¬`
`00:14.08`	`Arthas-`	`http://hugeurl.com/`
`00:14.10`	`Arthas-`	`AWESOME CONCEPT`
`00:14.13`	`Otixa`	`bans P_R_Deltoid`
`00:14.27`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`this is censorship!`
`00:14.30`	`Arthas-`	`Now to make a twitter were you have to type at least 600 characters, it will be popular as hell`
`00:14.40`	`Arthas-`	`Otixa you would use it everyda right?`
`00:14.53`	`Otixa`	`/no`
`00:14.57`	`Demonette`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:15.03`	`Demonette`	`lol...`
`00:15.47`	`Demonette`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:15.48`	`eggy`	`long url =/`
`00:15.55`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`god damn`
`00:15.57`	`Demonette`	`that was www.Otixa.com XD`
`00:16.01`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that is a lot of link`
`00:16.22`	`Demonette`	`But i really get different results`
`00:16.39`	`Arthas-`	`long url is long`
`00:17.05`	`Demonette`	`Nope`
`00:17.10`	`Demonette`	`it's short`
`00:17.24`	`Demonette`	`case a DNA-String is quite longer`
`00:17.34`	`Arthas-`	`dont involve dna into this`
`00:17.35`	`Demonette`	`and even a long URL seems to be short in compair`
`00:17.37`	`Arthas-`	`dna did nothing to you`
`00:17.38`	`Demonette`	`=P`
`00:17.39`	`Arthas-`	`:\|`
`00:17.56`	`Demonette`	`DNA pwns you =D`
`00:18.12`	`Arthas-`	`:<`
`00:18.18`	`Arthas-`	`why am i still awake`
`00:18.42`	`Demonette`	`cause you want to enjoy the moment when i went crazy again?`
`00:18.53`	`Arthas-`	`thats not it!`
`00:19.07`	`Demonette`	`well then`
`00:19.15`	`Demonette`	`just go to bed`
`00:19.16`	`KillerGymSox`	`demonette did u have an answer as to why my camera was acting up`
`00:19.20`	`Arthas-`	`will do, nn!`
`00:19.28`	`Demonette`	`nighty night`
`00:19.36`	`KillerGymSox`	`you started typing a response then switched to answer silver so i was unaware`
`00:19.53`	`Demonette`	`lol`
`00:19.54`	`Demonette`	`XD`
`00:20.07`	`Demonette`	`i think the camera just hates you`
`00:20.10`	`Demonette`	`like santa does`
`00:20.18`	`Demonette`	`sry i'm tired`
`00:20.36`	`Demonette`	`anoiyed frustrated bored and much more...`
`00:20.49`	`KillerGymSox`	`its no biggie`
`00:21.01`	`Demonette`	`so what is it then?`
`00:21.23`	`KillerGymSox`	`im not sure i want to invest brain power in answering that`
`00:21.57`	`Demonette`	`-.-`
`00:22.05`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`good conversation`
`00:22.30`	`Demonette`	`i will invest something in something that hasn't anything to do with IRC`
`00:22.34`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Is there any way to get the exact point at wich the players camera is pointing on the ground grid`
`00:22.53`	`Demonette`	`maybe don't ask me`
`00:22.58`	`KillerGymSox`	`no clue`
`00:23.01`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I am asking in general`
`00:23.19`	`KillerGymSox`	`camera stuff is foreign to me.. which is why I just follow tutorials when it comes to things like that`
`00:23.52`	`Demonette`	`jawns.`
`00:23.57`	`HeyRevolver`	`Deltoid, what are you tryig to accomplish?`
`00:24.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I want a cave to fade when a viewer moves over it`
`00:24.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`or rocks`
`00:24.14`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`like a big mountain`
`00:24.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I want it to fade away`
`00:24.22`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it'd be an actor`
`00:24.24`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that'd be simple`
`00:24.43`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I was thinking of just placing a predetermined region under it and checking if the player camera point is inside it, then fade the mountain`
`00:24.47`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`to create a cut away effect`
`00:25.11`	`HeyRevolver`	`Yeah not sure how to accomplish that besides using doodads for your cave`
`00:25.25`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`How would you do it with doodads, then?`
`00:25.31`	`HeyRevolver`	`Doodads automatically fade`
`00:25.46`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`what`
`00:25.46`	`KillerGymSox`	`are you going to have your camera locked on to your unit you are controlling?`
`00:25.46`	`Demonette`	`Wohoo one of the gods was talking but even seems to have no real clue of it...`
`00:25.46`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`how`
`00:25.46`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`no`
`00:25.46`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it's going to be movable`
`00:25.55`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but... if doodads can autofade... what is the condition for that fade?`
`00:26.11`	`HeyRevolver`	`It is probably inherent in the data type "doodad"`
`00:26.16`	`HeyRevolver`	`check the fields of a doodad`
`00:26.25`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`well how does it work in-game, I mean? I've never seen a doodad fade`
`00:26.27`	`HeyRevolver`	`not data type, but file type or whatever`
`00:26.32`	`HeyRevolver`	`Really?`
`00:26.39`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`not that I can remember`
`00:26.44`	`HeyRevolver`	`You walk behind a doodad that is tall and gets between you and the screen`
`00:26.45`	`HeyRevolver`	`and it fades`
`00:26.49`	`HeyRevolver`	`Put a corhal building on a map`
`00:26.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`and run heind it`
`00:26.55`	`HeyRevolver`	`behind*`
`00:26.56`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh`
`00:26.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that`
`00:26.58`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`yeah`
`00:27.03`	`KillerGymSox`	`couldn't you craft your own "cave" using a bunch of rocks and just meld them together with shift click and using page up/page down to position them correctly?`
`00:27.05`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`still not exactly what I am looking for unfortunately`
`00:27.20`	`KillerGymSox`	`since they are already doodads they will fade`
`00:27.21`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I didn't mean cave. I meant mountain`
`00:27.25`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`00:27.27`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`naw, not what I am looking for`
`00:27.28`	`KillerGymSox`	`oh`
`00:27.34`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`this is unit irrelevant. It depends on the players camera`
`00:27.38`	`HeyRevolver`	`There are doodads that if scaled up enough could be mountains`
`00:27.39`	`KillerGymSox`	`well thats different :P`
`00:27.47`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it should look like a mountain when it's on the outskirts of the camera`
`00:27.56`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but when the center gets into the high part of the mountain, it should fade`
`00:27.59`	`HeyRevolver`	`Use rock doodads like he said`
`00:28.02`	`HeyRevolver`	`and make the scale big`
`00:28.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Making the mountain isn't hard, you arn't listening`
`00:28.16`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`The fading is the problem`
`00:28.19`	`HeyRevolver`	`No, you aren't listening`
`00:28.25`	`KillerGymSox`	`LOL`
`00:28.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`If you make your mountain out of doodad rocks`
`00:28.30`	`HeyRevolver`	`it will fade`
`00:28.31`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`okay, lets say I just made a mountain. Now I have a non-fading mountain`
`00:28.35`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`when a unit is behind it, you said`
`00:28.48`	`Demonette`	`well even good night`
`00:28.53`	`HeyRevolver`	`nigth`
`00:29.00`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Halohalo (76d1c8de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.118.209.200.222)`
`00:29.10`	`Arthas-`	`HeyRevolver`
`00:29.15`	`HeyRevolver`	`HeyArthas-`
`00:29.18`	`Arthas-`	`have you seen freaks and geeks?`
`00:29.26`	`HeyRevolver`	`like one episode`
`00:29.30`	`HeyRevolver`	`I dont like shows like that though`
`00:29.41`	`Arthas-`	`im considering it hmm`
`00:29.44`	`HeyRevolver`	`I respect it, though, and know it was a great show`
`00:29.45`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`hur hur we are geeks we play NES and wear videogame shirts`
`00:29.46`	`HeyRevolver`	`and really funny`
`00:29.52`	`Aetos`	`everytime I call a music file to play on a unit through triggers, it stops the music file playing on the other unit next to it... why? :/`
`00:30.00`	`Aetos`	`(its the same sound for both)`
`00:30.18`	`Arthas-`	`lots of series on my must see list atm :D`
`00:30.27`	`Arthas-`	`need to ive battlestar a shot I think`
`00:31.06`	`HeyRevolver`	`Aetos good question, did you try adding a wait command after the first sound file?`
`00:31.49`	`Aetos`	`what would that solve?`
`00:32.01`	`HeyRevolver`	`Dunno but its the first thing that cam einto my head lol`
`00:32.06`	`Aetos`	`=/`
`00:32.17`	`KillerGymSox`	`aetos is this a sound effect or an actual full song you imported?`
`00:32.18`	`Arthas-`	`HeyRevolver you did wc3 mapping did you not :p`
`00:32.21`	`Aetos`	`its a full song`
`00:32.24`	`HeyRevolver`	`Nope`
`00:32.24`	`Aetos`	`set as an ambient 3d`
`00:32.36`	`HeyRevolver`	`I made one Starcraft map when I was like 13`
`00:32.37`	`Arthas-`	`waiting would help in some really really weird triggers`
`00:32.53`	`Arthas-`	`although ive not seen that in sc2 editor yet`
`00:32.58`	`HeyRevolver`	`oh`
`00:33.00`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`00:33.04`	`KillerGymSox`	`im not sure how many sound channels it takes up but i know that in sc2 there is a sounds section in your options and you set it to how many channels of sound are allowed.. could that be it?`
`00:33.07`	`HeyRevolver`	`No i was just thinking the trigger will read the wait`
`00:33.09`	`Arthas-`	`seems like lots of players here come directly from starcraft`
`00:33.11`	`HeyRevolver`	`and might hang up on the wait`
`00:33.15`	`Arthas-`	`so what do you guys think of the void rays?`
`00:33.19`	`HeyRevolver`	`and make the song play until the wait was over`
`00:33.28`	`Aetos`	`http://pastebin.com/rskeS1J5`
`00:33.29`	`Aetos`	`thats the trigger`
`00:33.39`	`Aetos`	`I love void rays`
`00:33.40`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Whoa`
`00:33.44`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Doodads fade when you get too close!`
`00:33.49`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`without units behind them`
`00:33.51`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`just in general`
`00:33.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that is good to know, sorry for doubting yo, HeyRevolver`
`00:34.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I feel like the quality of the editor went down after 1.1`
`00:34.12`	`HeyRevolver`	`Why are you making variables for sounds`
`00:34.15`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`keeps freaking out`
`00:34.16`	`HeyRevolver`	`why not call the sound directly?`
`00:34.18`	`Arthas-`	`funy, I hate the`
`00:34.30`	`Aetos`	`same difference HeyRevolver`
`00:34.33`	`Aetos`	`doesn't work either way`
`00:34.34`	`Aetos`	`lol`
`00:34.36`	`HeyRevolver`	`Well`
`00:34.43`	`HeyRevolver`	`maybe thats your problem`
`00:34.45`	`HeyRevolver`	`hehehe`
`00:34.45`	`Aetos`	`and, I do call it directly`
`00:34.51`	`Aetos`	`I tried both ways, HeyRevolver`
`00:34.55`	`HeyRevolver`	`Ive never had problems with sounds cancelling sounds that are played from triggers`
`00:34.56`	`HeyRevolver`	`oh`
`00:34.57`	`HeyRevolver`	`sucks`
`00:35.02`	`Aetos`	`"radio sound" is the sound file`
`00:35.05`	`Aetos`	`it does call it directly`
`00:35.08`	`HeyRevolver`	`yeah i saw lol`
`00:35.17`	`HeyRevolver`	`bu then you assign it to a variable`
`00:35.25`	`Aetos`	`yea, just to stop it`
`00:35.30`	`Aetos`	`thought that would help for some reason`
`00:35.32`	`Aetos`	`it doesn't`
`00:35.33`	`HeyRevolver`	`So isnt that why its stopping?`
`00:35.48`	`Aetos`	`why would it stop if its assigned to a variable?`
`00:35.57`	`HeyRevolver`	`isnt there a "Wait until it finishes" for sound files?`
`00:36.08`	`Aetos`	`why do I want that? lol`
`00:36.15`	`Aetos`	`I don't want to wait for the sound file to finish`
`00:36.20`	`*** join/#sc2mapster tordey (62745298@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.116.82.152)`
`00:36.22`	`tordey`	`wassap`
`00:36.23`	`tordey`	`daddio`
`00:36.26`	`KillerGymSox`	`wait for sound duration?`
`00:36.26`	`Aetos`	`I want it to constantly play until the unit dies`
`00:36.45`	`HeyRevolver`	`So`
`00:36.59`	`HeyRevolver`	`It plays a different sound when you die?`
`00:37.01`	`tordey`	`can someone help me figure how to apply a buff if the damage recieved instance was greater than x damage?`
`00:37.05`	`Aetos`	`no, it just stops the sound`
`00:37.06`	`Aetos`	`lol`
`00:37.08`	`HeyRevolver`	`ah`
`00:37.20`	`HeyRevolver`	`because it is tied to the unit`
`00:37.23`	`HeyRevolver`	`and when the unit dies`
`00:37.25`	`HeyRevolver`	`the sound dies with it`
`00:37.27`	`Aetos`	`yes`
`00:37.32`	`Aetos`	`but the problem is`
`00:37.35`	`Aetos`	`it won't play more than once`
`00:37.40`	`Aetos`	`if you build a unit, it plays fine`
`00:37.42`	`HeyRevolver`	`Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh`
`00:37.44`	`Aetos`	`build another, the last sound stops`
`00:37.46`	`Aetos`	`and the new one starts`
`00:37.52`	`tordey`	`[20:37] <tordey> can someone help me figure how to apply a buff if the damage recieved instance was greater than x damage?`
`00:38.02`	`Aetos`	`trigger it :p`
`00:38.08`	`KillerGymSox`	`im not good with sounds yet but i notice at the bottom there is an action for enable/disable track continuous. Do you think you could associate that action with conditions for the unit being alive or dead?`
`00:38.18`	`tordey`	`wassap`
`00:38.19`	`tordey`	`daaddio`
`00:38.22`	`tordey`	`[20:37] <tordey> [20:37] <tordey> can someone help me figure how to apply a buff if the damage recieved instance was greater than x damage?`
`00:38.24`	`HeyRevolver`	`Dude`
`00:38.25`	`Aetos`	`not sure`
`00:38.27`	`HeyRevolver`	`if anyoen knew`
`00:38.29`	`HeyRevolver`	`theyd answer`
`00:38.31`	`Aetos`	`tordey, TRIGGERS`
`00:38.38`	`tordey`	`no triggers bro!`
`00:38.44`	`tordey`	`at least`
`00:38.48`	`Aetos`	`okay, then say that`
`00:38.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`Look harder its there`
`00:38.53`	`HeyRevolver`	`im looking at it`
`00:38.54`	`Arthas-`	`well`
`00:38.58`	`tordey`	`trigger not using the any unit takes any damage`
`00:39.04`	`SilverSeraphim`	`has anyone tried creating an item that grants a turret, or can point me in the direction of a tutorial/post?`
`00:39.08`	`HeyRevolver`	`dmaging unit`
`00:39.09`	`Arthas-`	`id try making my own action definition and mark that as thread`
`00:39.11`	`HeyRevolver`	`damage`
`00:39.11`	`HeyRevolver`	`>`
`00:39.12`	`Arthas-`	`dont know if itll help`
`00:39.15`	`Arthas-`	`but worth a try!`
`00:39.25`	`Arthas-`	`i doubt it will hel though!`
`00:39.29`	`Arthas-`	`help*`
`00:39.36`	`Aetos`	`just trigger it :p`
`00:40.00`	`tordey`	`never`
`00:40.07`	`Aetos`	`why not? lol`
`00:40.13`	`tordey`	`because`
`00:40.15`	`HeyRevolver`	`dropkicks tordey in the face`
`00:40.18`	`tordey`	`:[`
`00:40.22`	`Arthas-`	`tordey validators`
`00:40.23`	`KillerGymSox`	`Aetos did you figure out your sound problem?`
`00:40.27`	`tordey`	`what about em`
`00:40.27`	`Arthas-`	`they are awesome!`
`00:40.28`	`Aetos`	`nope`
`00:40.46`	`Arthas-`	`ive got no idea on how to connect em though`
`00:40.49`	`tordey`	`i figure validators would work but i cant get last damage`
`00:40.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`Dude`
`00:40.54`	`HeyRevolver`	`make it a global variable`
`00:41.07`	`tordey`	`so i tried life delta`
`00:41.18`	`tordey`	`but that only does it between max hp and current hp`
`00:41.31`	`tordey`	`i want it between last current hp and current current hp`
`00:41.34`	`tordey`	`iunno if you get what im saying`
`00:41.35`	`Aetos`	`http://pastebin.com/n21egWCK`
`00:41.37`	`Aetos`	`that's it`
`00:41.39`	`Aetos`	`triggers done`
`00:41.39`	`Aetos`	`lol`
`00:41.55`	`Aetos`	`oh wait`
`00:41.59`	`tordey`	`dude i know how to do it with triggers`
`00:42.01`	`tordey`	`but i dont want em!`
`00:42.04`	`Aetos`	`then screw the data editor`
`00:42.10`	`tordey`	`:[`
`00:42.16`	`tordey`	`at least`
`00:42.16`	`Arthas-`	`the data editor is really nice though`
`00:42.21`	`tordey`	`if you can find a more efficient way of doing it`
`00:42.23`	`Arthas-`	`ah well, afk again`
`00:42.33`	`Aetos`	`why is the data editor more efficient then triggers?`
`00:42.47`	`HeyRevolver`	`It's not.`
`00:42.53`	`Aetos`	`brb`
`00:42.56`	`tordey`	`because the trigger solution executes on every single damage instance`
`00:43.02`	`tordey`	`i dont want that`
`00:43.03`	`Arthas-`	`HeyRevolver actually`
`00:43.06`	`HeyRevolver`	`not if you use conditions`
`00:43.07`	`Arthas-`	`it is in some cases`
`00:43.12`	`tordey`	`it still executes`
`00:43.15`	`tordey`	`but as a failed execute`
`00:43.19`	`HeyRevolver`	`but but`
`00:43.23`	`Aetos`	`how does the data editor work then?`
`00:43.27`	`tordey`	`look man i used the trigger debugger`
`00:43.37`	`HeyRevolver`	`look man, data is triggers for fools`
`00:43.41`	`tordey`	`and profiled the cpu util`
`00:43.43`	`tordey`	`shit is HUGE`
`00:43.47`	`tordey`	`way more than it needs to be`
`00:43.48`	`HeyRevolver`	`i take HUGE shits`
`00:43.56`	`Aetos`	`how do you know it will be different with data editor? :p`
`00:44.04`	`tordey`	`oh i know man`
`00:44.13`	`HeyRevolver`	`jk about data`
`00:44.16`	`HeyRevolver`	`I am jealous`
`00:44.19`	`HeyRevolver`	`I wish I was better at data`
`00:44.22`	`tordey`	`because the data editor wouldnt have to execute on every damage instance!`
`00:44.34`	`tordey`	`it would only execute for units that have it as a damage response`
`00:44.45`	`tordey`	`i got 1 unit out of something like 60 units that have this behavior`
`00:44.55`	`Otixa`	`I forgot how much I hate level design Â¬_Â¬`
`00:44.59`	`tordey`	`hi Otixa`
`00:45.00`	`tordey`	`hi!`
`00:45.01`	`tordey`	`:)`
`00:45.09`	`Otixa`	`;/`
`00:45.11`	`tordey`	`Otixa how's civ 5`
`00:45.13`	`tordey`	`tell me!`
`00:45.14`	`tordey`	`please`
`00:45.18`	`tordey`	`pleeeeeeease`
`00:45.19`	`Otixa`	`wtf civ 5?`
`00:45.21`	`HeyRevolver`	`it looks shiny`
`00:45.23`	`tordey`	`Civilization 5`
`00:45.30`	`Otixa`	`Haven't tried it`
`00:45.34`	`tordey`	`well try it`
`00:45.38`	`Otixa`	`Working on Cloverdale`
`00:45.38`	`KillerGymSox`	`i was interested in civ 5`
`00:45.38`	`tordey`	`spend $50 on it`
`00:45.42`	`tordey`	`what is that`
`00:45.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`Sid Meier is my uncle`
`00:45.53`	`tordey`	`boobs!@`
`00:45.54`	`KillerGymSox`	`i was also interested in making a civ map for sc2 lawl`
`00:45.59`	`tordey`	`dont do it man`
`00:46.03`	`tordey`	`waste o time`
`00:46.03`	`Halohalo`	`So who won the contest :D?`
`00:46.07`	`HeyRevolver`	`me`
`00:46.10`	`tordey`	`inno some weirdo`
`00:46.13`	`HeyRevolver`	`Im riiiicih biiaaaaatch`
`00:46.19`	`tordey`	`not you`
`00:46.24`	`tordey`	`that minecraft dude is riic`
`00:46.27`	`tordey`	`rich as fuck`
`00:46.30`	`tordey`	`like shitting out money`
`00:46.36`	`HeyRevolver`	`minecraft?`
`00:46.37`	`Otixa`	`5k$ isn't "rick" ;p`
`00:46.43`	`Otixa`	`er`
`00:46.44`	`Otixa`	`rich`
`00:46.44`	`HeyRevolver`	`nope`
`00:46.48`	`HeyRevolver`	`its not Bob either`
`00:46.48`	`Otixa`	`smacks HeyRevolver`
`00:46.49`	`tordey`	`its' an indie game`
`00:46.51`	`tordey`	`made by one guy`
`00:47.00`	`tordey`	`and it's apparently super popular`
`00:47.10`	`tordey`	`the guy is getting 250k in sales`
`00:47.13`	`tordey`	`a day`
`00:47.18`	`HeyRevolver`	`on a map?`
`00:47.19`	`tordey`	`one indie game develooper`
`00:47.24`	`tordey`	`who would've thought`
`00:47.27`	`HeyRevolver`	`seriously?`
`00:47.29`	`tordey`	`yes`
`00:47.35`	`HeyRevolver`	`Thats pretty typical of indie games`
`00:47.39`	`tordey`	`no it isn't`
`00:47.43`	`tordey`	`this shit is off the charts`
`00:47.53`	`HeyRevolver`	`dude indie games are 99% of the game son the market right now`
`00:47.55`	`tordey`	`not at this magnitude`
`00:47.59`	`HeyRevolver`	`look at xbox and ps3`
`00:47.59`	`Otixa`	`I have to agree there, being an indie dev myself`
`00:48.01`	`HeyRevolver`	`ALL indie games`
`00:48.01`	`tordey`	`for one indie game developer`
`00:48.12`	`Otixa`	`smacks HeyRevolver`
`00:48.14`	`HeyRevolver`	`lolol`
`00:48.14`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Hey guys, is there any reason my publshing would just stay at 0% forever?`
`00:48.19`	`HeyRevolver`	`jk`
`00:48.23`	`tordey`	`iunno because the editor is dumb`
`00:48.23`	`Jygga`	`AND he is not even out of alpha`
`00:48.29`	`tordey`	`i now`
`00:48.30`	`Jygga`	`AND the game itself is really simple`
`00:48.31`	`tordey`	`i know`
`00:48.31`	`Jygga`	`:P`
`00:48.35`	`Otixa`	`Also, shit is boring`
`00:48.36`	`Otixa`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/SC2/misc/blah.jpg`
`00:48.38`	`Otixa`	`>:[`
`00:48.40`	`tordey`	`he can hire like 20 super smart programmers so he can make it even better`
`00:48.44`	`tordey`	`start his own company`
`00:48.47`	`Otixa`	`Placing plants and shit is taking forever`
`00:48.48`	`tordey`	`he's so rich now`
`00:48.51`	`tordey`	`he don give a fuck`
`00:48.55`	`HeyRevolver`	`He will probably blow it all on coke and hookers`
`00:48.56`	`tordey`	`buy as much hookers as he wants`
`00:48.57`	`HeyRevolver`	`I know I did`
`00:49.01`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`00:49.28`	`KillerGymSox`	`those facebook games are probably generating a shitload of cash too.. even though they are trash`
`00:49.36`	`HeyRevolver`	`Billions`
`00:49.37`	`tordey`	`holy moly you use dropbox too?`
`00:49.39`	`tordey`	`dropbox is awesome`
`00:49.41`	`HeyRevolver`	`there was an NPR thing on those games`
`00:49.45`	`Jygga`	`when i scored my first big contract as freelance coder i, OF COURSE, did stupid shit ^^`
`00:50.02`	`tordey`	`indie games market untapped cash monies?`
`00:50.10`	`HeyRevolver`	`If you can make a good game`
`00:50.15`	`tordey`	`which`
`00:50.19`	`HeyRevolver`	`but most people think ther games are good`
`00:50.20`	`tordey`	`is very unlikely`
`00:50.21`	`HeyRevolver`	`and they aren't`
`00:50.24`	`KillerGymSox`	`heh i have dropbox but i don't have a reason to use it very much`
`00:50.27`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`wow`
`00:50.31`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`the new fucking editor is fucked`
`00:50.35`	`tordey`	`what happend`
`00:50.36`	`tordey`	`TELL ME`
`00:50.38`	`tordey`	`DAMN IT`
`00:50.40`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it's just slow as shit and keeps freaking out`
`00:50.42`	`tordey`	`i need to know the bugs`
`00:50.45`	`tordey`	`oh`
`00:50.46`	`Jygga`	`like ... all those round based fantasy games`
`00:50.49`	`Jygga`	`there is a fuckton`
`00:50.50`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`the ground keeps flashing`
`00:50.53`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`to black`
`00:50.54`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`00:50.56`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`like a strobe light`
`00:50.58`	`tordey`	`you better get that checked bro`
`00:50.59`	`HeyRevolver`	`reboot`
`00:51.01`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`every time I go intot he editor with a map open`
`00:51.02`	`tordey`	`the editor is alive`
`00:51.09`	`tordey`	`and it might eat you for breakfast`
`00:51.13`	`tordey`	`next time you sleep`
`00:51.14`	`HeyRevolver`	`your editor is going to eat your computer from the inside`
`00:51.18`	`Otixa`	`That's because shit actually has a preview now`
`00:51.28`	`Otixa`	`And it's fucked`
`00:51.30`	`tordey`	`otixa can i get a hug`
`00:51.33`	`tordey`	`if not, can i hug you?`
`00:51.34`	`tordey`	`:4`
`00:51.38`	`Otixa`	`No >:\|`
`00:51.41`	`tordey`	`:(`
`00:51.42`	`Otixa`	`No homo`
`00:51.48`	`tordey`	`it's a non-homo hug`
`00:51.53`	`tordey`	`it's a friendly hug`
`00:51.54`	`tordey`	`best buddies hug`
`00:51.55`	`HeyRevolver`	`thinks tordey is bi-curious`
`00:52.00`	`Otixa`	`:\|`
`00:52.03`	`tordey`	`:)`
`00:52.13`	`tordey`	`im contemplating whether to buy civ 5`
`00:52.18`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`there really needs to be a built in mouse pos tracker`
`00:52.18`	`tordey`	`it's $50`
`00:52.20`	`tordey`	`worth it?`
`00:52.20`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`shit redic`
`00:52.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`did you like civ 4?`
`00:52.30`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it's got HEXES`
`00:52.34`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`or, its`
`00:52.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I guewss`
`00:52.36`	`Otixa`	`btw`
`00:52.36`	`tordey`	`iuno i played it for a like 2 minutes`
`00:52.38`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I dunno`
`00:52.39`	`Jygga`	`when i was tasked to do a game in 1 week at university i actually thought i would sell the shit afterwards :D`
`00:52.47`	`Otixa`	`What do you guys think of this as a zombie survival theme? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/SC2/misc/cloverdale.jpg`
`00:52.55`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`looks awful`
`00:52.55`	`Jygga`	`1k lines of code! yeah!`
`00:52.59`	`tordey`	`otixa you use dropbox`
`00:53.00`	`tordey`	`holy moly`
`00:53.02`	`HeyRevolver`	`lookslike shit`
`00:53.03`	`tordey`	`hug me pLEASE`
`00:53.06`	`Otixa`	`P_R_Deltoid, don't be a homo`
`00:53.07`	`HeyRevolver`	`scrap it and start over`
`00:53.13`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`homo 24/7`
`00:53.14`	`tordey`	`cmon guys`
`00:53.15`	`HeyRevolver`	`hahaha`
`00:53.20`	`tordey`	`it has to be possible with the data editor only`
`00:53.20`	`Otixa`	`Srsly tho`
`00:53.22`	`HeyRevolver`	`Otixa that looks really badass`
`00:53.24`	`Otixa`	`And feedback?`
`00:53.26`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`stop sight looks gay as fuck`
`00:53.28`	`Otixa`	`Any*`
`00:53.29`	`antares-`	`tordey, civ5 is great, but if you're not used to civ the gameplay might seem slow paced`
`00:53.30`	`tordey`	`[20:38] <tordey> [20:37] <tordey> [20:37] <tordey> can someone help me figure how to apply a buff if the damage recieved instance was greater than x damage?`
`00:53.30`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`erm, stop sign`
`00:53.35`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`those lights are distracting`
`00:53.38`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and make no real sense`
`00:53.41`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`they come out of nowhere`
`00:53.43`	`Otixa`	`Yeh, apparently there are lights attached to it`
`00:53.43`	`KillerGymSox`	`how come 95% of the time the page doesn't refresh with this chat and i have to manually scroll down to keep up`
`00:53.49`	`Otixa`	`And the emissive boost fucks with them`
`00:53.52`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`those are in-game? They look awful`
`00:53.55`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`like`
`00:53.56`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`build in?`
`00:53.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`yeah`
`00:53.59`	`Otixa`	`Will try to cover it up later`
`00:54.00`	`tordey`	`can someone help me figure how to apply a buff if the damage recieved instance was greater than x damage? With ONLY THE DATA EDITOR`
`00:54.06`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I figured it was the lighting you chose for the map`
`00:54.10`	`Jygga`	`KillerGymSox use a standalone client, really`
`00:54.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`because the buildings in the back look pretty bright`
`00:54.14`	`HeyRevolver`	`Killer are you scrolling up?`
`00:54.16`	`HeyRevolver`	`ever?`
`00:54.17`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`considerin how they look in-game`
`00:54.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`if you scroll up it sticks`
`00:54.31`	`tordey`	`popularity doesnt seem to reset every hour now`
`00:54.32`	`SilverSeraphim`	`WOW, SC2 editor is a CRUEL world ----> http://imgur.com/Bds0W.png`
`00:54.33`	`tordey`	`what's goin on`
`00:54.36`	`tordey`	`im so confused`
`00:54.40`	`Otixa`	`;p`
`00:54.40`	`ekcolnovkol`	`it means`
`00:54.40`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Get an actual IRC client`
`00:54.50`	`ekcolnovkol`	`everything is fine and dandy`
`00:54.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`most irc clients do it too`
`00:54.52`	`tordey`	`can someone help me figure how to apply a buff if the damage recieved instance was greater than x damage? With ONLY THE DATA EDITOR`
`00:54.57`	`Otixa`	`SilverSeraphim, the orphanage attacked me`
`00:55.02`	`Otixa`	`You all saw it`
`00:55.07`	`KillerGymSox`	`no im not scrolling up.. just down.. all the time`
`00:55.09`	`deathnight114`	`ohey cronos, do you got starcraft II Retail yet?`
`00:55.15`	`deathnight114`	`if you are there >.>`
`00:55.19`	`KillerGymSox`	`any particular standalone client that is free and works well?`
`00:55.24`	`HeyRevolver`	`mirc`
`00:55.31`	`HeyRevolver`	`.com`
`00:55.34`	`deathnight114`	`chatzilla`
`00:55.36`	`deathnight114`	`works too`
`00:55.38`	`tordey`	`can someone help me figure how to apply a buff if the damage recieved instance was greater than x damage? With ONLY THE DATA EDITOR`
`00:55.44`	`SilverSeraphim`	`Otixa: so now your nourishment is extracted via suffering from the souls of tortured orphans?`
`00:55.45`	`HeyRevolver`	`If you want to be pr0 get mIRC`
`00:55.54`	`Otixa`	`SilverSeraphim, indeed so`
`00:56.12`	`Otixa`	`resumes manually placing foliage`
`00:56.13`	`Otixa`	`Â¬_Â¬`
`00:56.24`	`tordey`	`Otixa and I go way back`
`00:56.28`	`tordey`	`like kindergarten`
`00:56.37`	`Otixa`	`smacks tordey`
`00:56.43`	`HeyRevolver`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzAEnlY9OF4`
`00:56.48`	`tordey`	`i'll take that as a friendly smack`
`00:56.48`	`HeyRevolver`	`thats my girlfriend yall`
`00:56.50`	`HeyRevolver`	`pray for her`
`00:57.10`	`tordey`	`IT'S LIKE IM WALKIN ON SUNSHINE`
`00:57.24`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`00:57.41`	`HeyRevolver`	`the popo`
`00:57.44`	`Aetos`	`pirates be slackin, no civ 5`
`00:57.44`	`KillerGymSox`	`i have chatzilla how the heck do i join this irc with chatzilla?`
`00:57.45`	`Aetos`	`:[`
`00:57.53`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`00:58.46`	`HeyRevolver`	`"How much of that stuff do you have.. is that it?"`
`00:58.49`	`HeyRevolver`	`"Your momma"`
`01:00.19`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Azoth (got_Ammo@guest-wireless-207-151-239-075.usc.edu)`
`01:00.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`should I go eat japanese or subs`
`01:01.04`	`HeyRevolver`	`alright! pizza it is`
`01:03.46`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Creation (c6d1e1e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.209.225.230)`
`01:04.44`	`Creation`	`hello folks`
`01:05.09`	`*** join/#sc2mapster IskatuMesk (ae015692@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.1.86.146)`
`01:05.32`	`Creation`	`~seen Shawn\|rawr`
`01:05.39`	`purl`	`shawn\|rawr is currently on #sc2mapster (1h 4m 31s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 17m 25s, last said: 'Hey guys, is there any reason my publshing would just stay at 0% forever?'.`
`01:05.49`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`17 mins.. nice`
`01:05.58`	`Creation`	`lol`
`01:06.02`	`Otixa`	`punches IskatuMesk`
`01:06.11`	`Otixa`	`;D`
`01:06.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`sup`
`01:06.31`	`Otixa`	`I'm doing level design ._.`
`01:06.34`	`Otixa`	`It's boring`
`01:06.36`	`Otixa`	`halp D:`
`01:06.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`01:06.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`level design is ez`
`01:06.46`	`SuraklinSC2`	`sets Otixa on fire.`
`01:06.48`	`Otixa`	`lolno`
`01:06.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`what are you doing`
`01:06.57`	`Otixa`	`Zombie survival themed map`
`01:06.58`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`01:07.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`everyone is doing that`
`01:10.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`so what are you having trouble with?`
`01:14.53`	`Arthas-`	`"You know who else skipped class`
`01:15.05`	`Arthas-`	`jimi hendrix. Know what happened to him? HE DIED!`
`01:18.33`	`Icebane`	`Heya`
`01:18.47`	`Icebane`	`I just said goodbye to my brother-like friend, he's moving to Italy :(`
`01:19.13`	`Arthas-`	`How drunk were ya`
`01:19.22`	`Arthas-`	`:p`
`01:20.56`	`Icebane`	`Not at all!`
`01:21.11`	`Icebane`	`Its just that I've known him for my whole life`
`01:21.19`	`Icebane`	`Its like a family member moving`
`01:21.23`	`Arthas-`	`no worries, one can still travel and meet em`
`01:21.29`	`Arthas-`	`although italy is a bit far away`
`01:21.38`	`Icebane`	`with the income of a student, iI don't think so`
`01:21.44`	`Icebane`	`I*`
`01:22.25`	`Icebane`	`its just that you never know when people pass away ;O`
`01:22.33`	`Icebane`	`he almost drove himself to death yesterday`
`01:22.56`	`Arthas-`	`Ah, cars and crashies`
`01:23.00`	`Icebane`	`Aye`
`01:23.12`	`Icebane`	`Oh shit, the clocks 03.23 o.o`
`01:23.15`	`Arthas-`	`was a passenger w a friend who did a 720 on the highway`
`01:23.44`	`Arthas-`	`luckily, no traffic in the other lane. would most likely have been dead then :p`
`01:23.49`	`Arthas-`	`but yeah, you never know`
`01:24.28`	`Icebane`	`yeah`
`01:24.36`	`Icebane`	`but thats life ;p`
`01:25.00`	`Arthas-`	`aye`
`01:25.08`	`Arthas-`	`ah well, i need to sleep :p`
`01:25.17`	`Icebane`	`yeah me too`
`01:25.20`	`Arthas-`	`if you wanna play tomorrow call on skype / ighlight here`
`01:25.25`	`Arthas-`	`nite mate`
`01:25.35`	`Icebane`	`alright, I have some schoolwork to do but I'll look into it ^^`
`01:25.39`	`Icebane`	`nn!`
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`01:31.51`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ`
`01:31.52`	`onetwo`	`yo`
`01:33.30`	`onetwo`	`alrighty then`
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`01:36.40`	`KiwiWarrior`	`yay the kiwi is now in NA xD server =p`
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`01:37.05`	`onetwo`	`nice`
`01:37.06`	`Vulfe`	`Hi ^^`
`01:37.08`	`Vulfe`	`Oh`
`01:37.09`	`Vulfe`	`OneTwo`
`01:37.14`	`Vulfe`	`how we adore you`
`01:37.20`	`Vulfe`	`I shall write you a haiku`
`01:37.20`	`onetwo`	`my TD is on page 4`
`01:37.21`	`onetwo`	`lolol`
`01:37.30`	`onetwo`	`i spent a while boosting it`
`01:37.33`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`01:37.46`	`KiwiWarrior`	`whats a haiku =P`
`01:39.33`	`Vulfe`	`OneTwo - a starcraft dude / thought I'd write him a haiku / BAD TUTORIALS`
`01:39.33`	`Vulfe`	`<3`
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`01:39.45`	`onetwo`	`good ending`
`01:39.48`	`onetwo`	`reminds me of nam`
`01:39.55`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`01:40.04`	`Dreathean`	`Does anyone know how to turn off whatever brings you back to the Hyperion with playing a Campaign map? (For altering and stuff like that). could someone please respond to this? I know its do-able...that guy that made the Outbreak mission 2-player did it.`
`01:40.06`	`Vulfe`	`I like my haikus to have a punch`
`01:40.38`	`Vulfe`	`when I write them O_o`
`01:42.22`	`Dreathean`	`Anyone have any ideas how to make that not happen?`
`01:42.52`	`Dreathean`	`Doesn't seem to be in the triggers`
`01:43.03`	`onetwo`	`no idea :/`
`01:44.05`	`Dreathean`	`Its really odd. sigh`
`01:44.27`	`Dreathean`	`I wish that guy that made the Outbreak for 2-player was on this website or something.`
`01:45.36`	`Vulfe`	`Mmkay`
`01:45.40`	`Vulfe`	`Soooooooooooooooooo`
`01:45.52`	`onetwo`	`afk`
`01:49.30`	`Otixa`	`Cake`
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`01:51.04`	`Vulfe`	`lie`
`01:52.00`	`tordey`	`my boy`
`01:53.04`	`Otixa`	`Pot noodle time`
`01:54.57`	`tordey`	`how come im orange in sc2mapster`
`01:55.07`	`tordey`	`omg banks limit increased!`
`01:55.08`	`tordey`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/`
`01:55.21`	`Otixa`	`Orange means either moderator or banned`
`01:55.28`	`Otixa`	`And I don't know of any new mods ;p`
`01:55.56`	`tordey`	`nooooooooo!`
`01:56.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`tordey kinda`
`01:56.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`there are bugs`
`01:56.08`	`RodOfNOD`	`with thebanks`
`01:56.16`	`tordey`	`like what kinda bugs`
`01:56.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`i wrote100k ofdata to player 1`
`01:56.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`all worked`
`01:56.22`	`Dreathean`	`Has anyone managed to take away the thing that puts you back onto the Hyperion to access more maps when editting the campaign maps?`
`01:56.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`butthen i wrote 10k to player 1 and 10k toplayer 2 and it failed`
`01:56.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`so not sure what the new rules are`
`01:57.28`	`tordey`	`hmm`
`01:57.40`	`tordey`	`did it not fail if lowered the amount>?`
`01:58.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`kinda`
`01:58.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`it worked with small data mounts`
`01:58.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`i havent determined exactly when`
`01:58.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`but its not a simple it either works or it dont now`
`01:58.42`	`RodOfNOD`	`the data appears wacked`
`01:59.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`im hoping i just fucked up my code :P`
`02:00.14`	`KiwiWarrior`	`noesss i have to start all over again if i wanna play in NA, sadface,`
`02:00.19`	`KiwiWarrior`	`starts to cry`
`02:01.05`	`Otixa`	`gloats`
`02:01.58`	`KiwiWarrior`	`lol`
`02:02.06`	`KiwiWarrior`	`attacks otixa`
`02:02.31`	`Otixa`	`is immune`
`02:02.53`	`Aetos`	`erases Otixa`
`02:02.58`	`Otixa`	`is immune`
`02:03.07`	`Aetos`	`removes Otixa's immune flag`
`02:03.22`	`KiwiWarrior`	`lol`
`02:03.27`	`Otixa`	`is immune`
`02:03.29`	`Otixa`	`gtfo`
`02:03.31`	`Otixa`	`busy`
`02:03.38`	`Aetos`	`then stop looking at irc`
`02:03.38`	`Aetos`	`:p`
`02:03.52`	`Otixa`	`Dualscreen ;p`
`02:03.57`	`Aetos`	`close your monitor`
`02:04.06`	`Otixa`	`It doesn't have a hatch`
`02:04.10`	`KiwiWarrior`	`omg should we all just have dual screen lucky fucker xD`
`02:04.13`	`Aetos`	`it doesn't?`
`02:04.14`	`Aetos`	`why not?`
`02:04.21`	`Aetos`	`I thought all monitors had hatches`
`02:04.59`	`KiwiWarrior`	`its all lies`
`02:05.01`	`KiwiWarrior`	`lies i say`
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`02:15.11`	`Dreathean`	`Has anyone managed to take away the thing that puts you back onto the Hyperion to access more maps when editting the campaign maps?`
`02:15.21`	`Icebane`	`lol I said nn for llike 1h ago`
`02:15.25`	`Icebane`	`now I'm off to bed xD`
`02:15.27`	`Icebane`	`nn!`
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`02:19.26`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`Wow to SC2 in 30 seconds! NO 3dmax! http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/8299-models-wow-to-sc2-in-30-seconds-no-3dmax/`
`02:19.32`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`i just used that it worked awesomely`
`02:20.41`	`onetwo`	`nice`
`02:21.09`	`onetwo`	`afk for a while`
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`02:24.54`	`Xenrathe`	`Galaxy editor uses an insane amount of memory`
`02:25.13`	`Xenrathe`	`I have... just the data module open and its taking up 900 MB of memory`
`02:25.51`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`yep, 760mb here`
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`02:37.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`only 900?`
`02:37.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`regularly takes 2gb for me`
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`02:43.09`	`Triceron`	`Ahoy`
`02:43.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`sup`
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`02:53.22`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/8299-models-wow-to-sc2-in-30-seconds-no-3dmax/ after i imported the model i had to make an actor evet to play the attack animation, gave it a weapon, looks good`
`02:56.14`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`is there a way to make a creep not chase you forever once it agros to you`
`03:07.05`	`Triceron`	`yeah that WoW convertor is gonna be awesome :D`
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`03:08.05`	`Triceron`	`Man, I'm lovin Marmoset render engine`
`03:08.24`	`Triceron`	`my models are lookin so sweeet in this!`
`03:08.40`	`Otixa`	`Marmo is bitchy about smoothing groups and proper topology Â¬_Â¬`
`03:08.44`	`Otixa`	`Love the post FX tho`
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`03:09.09`	`Triceron`	`I don't use smoothing groups, nuts to Max`
`03:09.45`	`Triceron`	`http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Tyrant_Render.jpg`
`03:09.47`	`Otixa`	`pfft`
`03:09.50`	`Triceron`	`check that out tho, so smexy!`
`03:09.58`	`Otixa`	`Sexy ;D`
`03:10.02`	`Otixa`	`highfives Triceron`
`03:10.18`	`Triceron`	`dies`
`03:10.37`	`Otixa`	`>:[`
`03:10.52`	`Otixa`	`But yeh, shit is awesome, gj ;D`
`03:11.01`	`Otixa`	`Now get it to look that good in SC2 ;p`
`03:11.11`	`Triceron`	`hey it looks good enough in SC2!`
`03:11.22`	`Otixa`	`Yeh, but not THAT good`
`03:11.23`	`Triceron`	`but I did up the spec in this version`
`03:11.37`	`Triceron`	`the prev version was still using very WIP textures. This new version is more polished`
`03:11.41`	`Triceron`	`the spec is a lot tighter`
`03:11.44`	`Otixa`	`show`
`03:12.16`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`to set the distance a creep will chase under Gameplay Data (Default SC2 Gameplay Settings), change "Acquire Leash Radius"`
`03:12.17`	`Triceron`	`not yet, still working on it`
`03:12.24`	`Otixa`	`:/`
`03:12.50`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`can anyone suggest a way to have a creep get incresed move speed when attacking? like once it aquires the target`
`03:13.34`	`Otixa`	`Like Zealot's Charge ability? ;p`
`03:13.40`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`yep`
`03:13.49`	`Triceron`	`give it zealot charge?`
`03:13.56`	`Triceron`	`lol`
`03:13.56`	`Otixa`	`Look up the Zealot Charge ability ;P`
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`03:16.10`	`Triceron`	`Skizot`
`03:16.24`	`Triceron`	`I'm half-done your contra dude`
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`03:28.35`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`i cant seem to find where to change the sound for the charge ability... i assumed it would be a sound actor but i dont see it`
`03:28.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`Skizot u alive?`
`03:32.51`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`hey progammer_?`
`03:33.44`	`progammer_`	`hey`
`03:33.59`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`is the chesscraft on the front page of the list the latest version?`
`03:35.20`	`progammer_`	`which page`
`03:35.26`	`progammer_`	`i havent update it for a long time`
`03:35.28`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Its on the first page last time i checked`
`03:35.32`	`progammer_`	`is it climbing on NA ?`
`03:35.43`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Yes, it's very high last time i checked`
`03:35.56`	`progammer_`	`i swear this popular system has to go`
`03:36.38`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`i think it should reset play count to your rank (1 for first 2 for second) every day or so`
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`03:37.03`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`well, some higher number for first, 1 for last`
`03:37.58`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Anyway, it's on the bottom of first page now`
`03:40.16`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`but when i got a pawn to the other side of the board and changed it to a queen, the pawn didnt move but it did change`
`03:40.21`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`thought i'd let you know ;)`
`03:40.34`	`progammer_`	`there's some bugs with unit not follow order`
`03:41.02`	`progammer_`	`i would have to change the entire code to see if it can fix or not, though i'm super lazy`
`03:41.13`	`progammer_`	`beside, who like the boring chess anyway`
`03:41.54`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Apparently some people with 943 games in the last hour`
`03:42.50`	`LordAbyss`	`btw`
`03:42.55`	`LordAbyss`	`i like your chess game programmer`
`03:42.56`	`progammer_`	`what i need is the bomberling map to float there instead, its 1000 times more fun`
`03:43.03`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`i was searching for charge, its called Charging Sound...`
`03:44.58`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`oh ya, i beat onetwo's map last night after he published it`
`03:45.22`	`Triceron`	`his td?`
`03:45.22`	`Triceron`	`which map`
`03:45.28`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Yes, his TD`
`03:45.37`	`Triceron`	`good, now he can get back to working on his RPG`
`03:45.41`	`Triceron`	`like god intended`
`03:46.08`	`Triceron`	`oh wait, he's still doing blizzcon stuff`
`03:46.13`	`Triceron`	`teh ghey`
`03:53.51`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`pretty nice TD tho, compared to any other TDs out`
`03:54.48`	`PM\|music`	`If you already beat it, it can't be that good ;)`
`03:54.52`	`PM\|music`	`A good TD is unbeatable!`
`03:57.14`	`Lotharscm`	`how do you prevent a unit from stopping when it uses an instant item .. just keeps moving instead of replacing orders`
`03:58.55`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`maybe a flag on the item?`
`03:59.21`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`use while moving or something, im jsut guessing`
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`04:01.37`	`Lotharscm`	`I tried that ;/`
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`04:06.46`	`RedWraith`	`wassap homedoggles?`
`04:09.15`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Which map did you make? I forget`
`04:09.17`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`:)`
`04:09.21`	`RedWraith`	`Shawn, really now?`
`04:09.24`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Yes`
`04:09.31`	`RedWraith`	`I'm RedWraith, the author of Sentry Scramble!`
`04:09.32`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I forgot which one, i know it was cool though`
`04:09.37`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Oh YA!`
`04:09.40`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I suck at that game`
`04:09.49`	`RedWraith`	`Most people do.`
`04:09.51`	`RedWraith`	`You're all pathetic.`
`04:10.32`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`That's a nice way to talk to the people that keep your map popular`
`04:10.45`	`RedWraith`	`~seen mindworx`
`04:10.52`	`purl`	`mindworx <~MindWorX@93.166.203.126> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 154d 1h 14m 9s ago, saying: 'Man i love how the editor is so damn bugged :D'.`
`04:10.57`	`RedWraith`	`Shawn, do you think I care about keeping my map popular?`
`04:11.00`	`RedWraith`	~seen `mindworx
`04:11.01`	`purl`	`mindworx <~Nikolaj.M@93.166.203.126> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 46d 2h 52m 52s ago, saying: 'See you all.*'.
`04:11.10`	`RedWraith`	~seen mindworx`
`04:11.10`	`purl`	mindworx` <MindWorX@188.176.197.82> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 12h 56m 15s ago, saying: 'I guess it's time to start making copies'.
`04:11.29`	`RedWraith`	`I care about map quality. Whether people play it is up to them.`
`04:11.47`	`RedWraith`	`How they see me isn't important either. I care about how they see me as a mapmaker, not a person. :P`
`04:11.56`	`RedWraith`	`And the mapmaking community loves me`
`04:12.01`	`RedWraith`	`cause I help them with shit all the time`
`04:12.03`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Says you`
`04:12.14`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Oh! Can you help me so I love you too?`
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`04:13.04`	`RedWraith`	`You don't have anything you need help with, so no.`
`04:13.26`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`That's a lie. I need help with some units on my map that don't like to listen to me`
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`04:13.41`	`RedWraith`	`What's wrong?`
`04:13.49`	`RedWraith`	`Fuck off, RodOfNOD`
`04:13.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`damn cat`
`04:14.02`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Ok, I have a map where you can teleport in and out of an area`
`04:14.07`	`RedWraith`	`Okay.`
`04:14.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`fuck off?`
`04:14.21`	`RedWraith`	`Tilde. :\|`
`04:14.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`im not sure an accidental cat tilde deserves a fuck off`
`04:14.45`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`When you enter the areas, people attack you. I got that part, but when you leave the area i have it set so the move back and forth between two points so they are away from the teleporter`
`04:15.02`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Now they get stuck moving between the points`
`04:15.07`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`And i dont understand why`
`04:15.42`	`RedWraith`	`Fine, RodOfNOD, I take it back.`
`04:16.19`	`Xenrathe`	`Do you order units to Stop when they teleport Shawn?`
`04:16.20`	`RedWraith`	`Shawn, what?`
`04:16.37`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`The trigger is 'when unit becomes idle'`
`04:16.40`	`Xenrathe`	`otherwise they might be trying to path back and forth between the old order points`
`04:16.46`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`condition 'owned by player 13'`
`04:16.50`	`RedWraith`	`Oh, Shawn, I can see why that's an issue.`
`04:17.02`	`RedWraith`	`Okay, so`
`04:17.07`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`huh?`
`04:17.11`	`RedWraith`	`you have a region with a teleporter in it`
`04:17.27`	`RedWraith`	`when units use the teleporter to enter the region, they move away from the teleporter`
`04:17.32`	`RedWraith`	`but there's lots of units`
`04:17.39`	`RedWraith`	`so your units sometimes get pushed back in`
`04:17.44`	`RedWraith`	`if there's too many?`
`04:17.56`	`RedWraith`	`and that's what you're trying to solve with this move thing, yes?`
`04:18.42`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I just want the enemies to move away from the teleporter when all the player units leave`
`04:19.03`	`RedWraith`	`Shawn, explain what the teleporter is for and the problem you're trying to solve.`
`04:19.20`	`RedWraith`	`Giving a solution and expecting us to find what's wrong without actually knowing the problem you're trying to solve is stupid.`
`04:19.44`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I tried to explain :s`
`04:19.47`	`RedWraith`	`hmm`
`04:19.50`	`RedWraith`	`I'll read through it again.`
`04:20.42`	`RodOfNOD`	`is overwhelmed with RedWraith's gnerosity`
`04:20.44`	`RedWraith`	`So they patrol basically?`
`04:20.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`generosity`
`04:20.52`	`RedWraith`	`when they go idle?`
`04:21.04`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Yes, but when i did that, they got stuck in patrol`
`04:21.19`	`RedWraith`	`And you want them to just move once?`
`04:21.24`	`RedWraith`	`Well, why use two points?`
`04:21.33`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`And now i have it so when they go idle, it checks if their are any player units in the area, and attacks them id they are there, but its not working`
`04:21.45`	`RedWraith`	`ah, I see.`
`04:21.49`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`lol.. you need to see the trigger`
`04:22.19`	`RedWraith`	`So the command for the idle does go through?`
`04:22.38`	`Skizot`	`wutchoo want foo`
`04:22.40`	`RedWraith`	`okay, so, the attackers patrol an area`
`04:22.52`	`RedWraith`	`and you want them`
`04:22.55`	`RedWraith`	`to attack players?`
`04:22.59`	`RedWraith`	`while they patrol?`
`04:23.25`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`No, i want them to stop patrolling and attack when the players are in the area, but they get stuck in the patrol`
`04:23.47`	`RedWraith`	`Okay, so, when players enter a region`
`04:23.51`	`RedWraith`	`you want all the computers`
`04:23.54`	`Skizot`	`RodOfNOD`
`04:23.54`	`RedWraith`	`to stop what they're doing`
`04:23.58`	`RedWraith`	`and attack the players?`
`04:24.13`	`RedWraith`	`Why have them patrol then?`
`04:24.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`pm Skizot`
`04:25.28`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Because i dont want the comps to be sitting next to the teleporter if all the players leave the area`
`04:25.56`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Would make it hard for the players to get back in`
`04:26.06`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`without dying in 2 secs`
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`04:26.42`	`RedWraith`	`So why patrol?`
`04:26.46`	`RedWraith`	`Why not just make them move away?`
`04:27.30`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I think it would look weird all the comp just sitting in one spot`
`04:27.36`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`But i guess you're right`
`04:27.51`	`Guest30048`	`hi, can anyone help me with requirements, i have this requirement that is a research which allows you to make a specific unit, however this specific unit cannot be seen in the building that builds it until the research is researched, does anyone know how to fix?`
`04:28.26`	`Guest30048`	`why did my name change to guest30048? :(`
`04:29.30`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`RedWraith, this is the exact trigger in question, I'll do it your way if nothing else`
`04:29.32`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`http://pastebin.com/yHPpi0Xn`
`04:30.49`	`Guest30048`	`anyone here?`
`04:31.46`	`RedWraith`	`first off`
`04:31.55`	`RedWraith`	`put the unit type shit in the conditions for the trigger itself`
`04:31.56`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`here we go..`
`04:31.58`	`RedWraith`	`not the if-then-else tree`
`04:32.04`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`ok`
`04:32.15`	`RedWraith`	`second`
`04:32.21`	`RedWraith`	`attack random unit?`
`04:32.22`	`RedWraith`	`fuck that`
`04:32.25`	`RedWraith`	`attack nearest unit`
`04:32.37`	`RedWraith`	`wait, no`
`04:32.41`	`RedWraith`	`attack position of nearest unit`
`04:32.58`	`RedWraith`	`that way, it just goes into attack mode, instead of follow unit until death mode`
`04:33.34`	`RedWraith`	`third`
`04:33.46`	`RedWraith`	`the reason your attack doesn't work`
`04:33.56`	`RedWraith`	`is because it has to be the case once the other two have already been executed`
`04:34.04`	`RedWraith`	`they wont attack until they've completed a patrol cycle`
`04:34.14`	`RedWraith`	`since a unit can only be idle if it's not doing anythin`
`04:34.26`	`RedWraith`	`instead, just have the unit attack move between those two points`
`04:34.26`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Well i knew that one`
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`04:34.34`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`But they still get stuck`
`04:34.36`	`RedWraith`	`and it'll attack whoever it comes across`
`04:34.46`	`RedWraith`	`use attack move instead of move`
`04:34.48`	`RedWraith`	`get stuck?`
`04:34.55`	`RedWraith`	`as in patrolling while they get shot at, right?`
`04:35.03`	`RedWraith`	`or as in, sit on their asses?`
`04:35.09`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`They just keep moving`
`04:35.14`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`no matter what happens`
`04:36.31`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`With nearest unit, won't it start targeting friendly units too?`
`04:36.36`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`O.O`
`04:36.51`	`RedWraith`	`use nearest unit in unit group`
`04:36.54`	`RedWraith`	`I think`
`04:36.56`	`RedWraith`	`if that exists`
`04:37.21`	`RedWraith`	`anyway, your best bet is to either order an attack move with the teleport step to the unit group`
`04:37.21`	`RedWraith`	`or`
`04:37.28`	`RedWraith`	`to just have them actually patrol`
`04:37.31`	`RedWraith`	`between those two spots`
`04:37.34`	`RedWraith`	`cause then they'll attack`
`04:37.46`	`RedWraith`	`but you'd have to only do it once then`
`04:38.56`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Incredible if it works`
`04:39.04`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`You really are that great ^.^`
`04:39.17`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`is there any way to get a list of all the models and sounds loaded by your map`
`04:39.24`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`You make one incredibly difficult map though`
`04:40.36`	`HRPuffinstuf`	`i still cant seem to get proper preloading, i think i need to preload the individual models`
`04:40.56`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`HRPuffinstuf, overview manager is your best bet`
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`04:52.47`	`LordAbyss`	`you gotta be joking`
`04:52.48`	`LordAbyss`	`:(`
`04:52.55`	`LordAbyss`	`someone took the model i was using for the boss fight`
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`04:55.41`	`Vortexx`	`Hey everyone`
`04:56.45`	`LordAbyss`	`hello`
`04:56.48`	`Vortexx`	`can anyone tell me how to make a unit charge in a direction w/o a target?`
`04:57.49`	`Vortexx`	`like I want the zealot charge ability to be able to be cast even when there is no target to run to`
`04:59.57`	`Skizot`	`sc2m got a vent server?`
`05:01.40`	`RedWraith`	`Skizot, I hope not.`
`05:01.46`	`RedWraith`	`I'm the only one here with a voice.`
`05:01.53`	`Vortexx`	`ya search irc or vent on the sc2 website`
`05:02.07`	`Vortexx`	`sc2 mapster site*`
`05:04.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`THe site does have vent`
`05:04.37`	`LordAbyss`	`yes it does`
`05:04.43`	`LordAbyss`	`and i wanna hear your lovely voice proz`
`05:04.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`That's. . .`
`05:04.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`very. . .`
`05:04.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`ghey`
`05:04.56`	`LordAbyss`	`;)`
`05:05.17`	`Vortexx`	`Prozaic!`
`05:05.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Me!`
`05:05.51`	`Vortexx`	`perhaps you'd know`
`05:06.21`	`Vortexx`	`how would I make an ability like charge that would charge straight forward w/o a target?`
`05:06.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Apply force`
`05:06.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`OR`
`05:06.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`An adaptation of the Zealot charge`
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`05:07.03`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`05:07.17`	`Vortexx`	`I was thinking force, how would you adapt the existing ability?`
`05:07.17`	`tordey`	`hello`
`05:07.31`	`Triceron`	`Skizot`
`05:07.46`	`Triceron`	`Contra dude almost complete`
`05:08.02`	`LordAbyss`	`tric, how hard is it to make a wireframe and portrat of a model`
`05:08.12`	`Triceron`	`Wireframe = easy`
`05:08.16`	`Triceron`	`Portrait... ugh.`
`05:08.20`	`LordAbyss`	`haha`
`05:08.33`	`Triceron`	`Wireframe is easy as long as you have a model.`
`05:08.35`	`Skizot`	`sweeet`
`05:08.40`	`Triceron`	`cuz you literally just make it out of screenshots`
`05:08.43`	`LordAbyss`	`you wanna do a wireframe for me?`
`05:08.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Vortexx - remove the auto-cast and make it a targeted ability where you click on the ground`
`05:08.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`OR`
`05:08.56`	`Triceron`	`of what?`
`05:09.02`	`LordAbyss`	`getting you link now`
`05:09.03`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@c-76-126-227-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`05:09.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`ake it an instant cast ability where Issue Order moves them a certain distance forward (Persistent Effect) with crazy move speed`
`05:09.32`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DekarAgain (~Dekar@p4FCEB680.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`05:10.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`For the issue order stuff, look at my Panic/Berserk tutorial`
`05:10.14`	`Skizot`	`wait what?`
`05:10.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You can use almost the same setup`
`05:10.22`	`Skizot`	`you are doing a portrait for him?`
`05:10.28`	`Vortexx`	`That sounds more like what I need`
`05:11.58`	`Skizot`	`so question.`
`05:12.12`	`Skizot`	`has there been a better wasd system than betas?`
`05:12.28`	`Skizot`	`i want to use the move command, not a move unit.`
`05:12.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes, but it's super secret`
`05:12.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`And you'll never have it`
`05:13.15`	`LordAbyss`	`pm`
`05:13.17`	`LordAbyss`	`don't lie`
`05:13.20`	`LordAbyss`	`nothing is a secret`
`05:13.23`	`LordAbyss`	`with the interwebz`
`05:13.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You're adopted`
`05:13.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Bet you didn't know that before just now`
`05:13.43`	`LordAbyss`	`0.0`
`05:13.54`	`LordAbyss`	`goes and cries in a corner.`
`05:14.09`	`Otixa`	`You are all now breathing manually`
`05:14.19`	`LordAbyss`	`thats a good one`
`05:14.45`	`Otixa`	`LordAbyss, and you especially are itchy Â¬_Â¬`
`05:14.58`	`LordAbyss`	`no i am not`
`05:15.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`See`
`05:15.06`	`LordAbyss`	`but wtf, my foot was itchy right before you said that`
`05:15.07`	`onetwo`	`hi`
`05:15.31`	`LordAbyss`	`hi onetwo`
`05:15.40`	`LordAbyss`	`someone likes to steal my boss model`
`05:15.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You are all counting to 10 in your minds!`
`05:15.42`	`LordAbyss`	`:(`
`05:15.43`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`onetwo! I beat your map`
`05:15.56`	`Otixa`	`ProzaicMuze, that doesn't work ;/`
`05:16.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You all want to kill Otixa`
`05:16.04`	`Otixa`	`Maybe because I'm lazy`
`05:16.11`	`LordAbyss`	`that one works!`
`05:16.14`	`Otixa`	`That one works, I'm sure :D`
`05:16.45`	`LordAbyss`	`wtb easy way to duplicate units`
`05:16.48`	`LordAbyss`	`like you could in wc3`
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`05:17.06`	`Otixa`	`ctrl+c > ctrl+v`
`05:17.08`	`Otixa`	`Done :D`
`05:17.08`	`onetwo`	`shawn`
`05:17.10`	`onetwo`	`i made it harder`
`05:17.11`	`onetwo`	`a lot harder`
`05:17.13`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`When?`
`05:17.14`	`SinisteRing`	`Omgz.`
`05:17.17`	`onetwo`	`a few hours ago`
`05:17.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Oh no!`
`05:17.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`She doen been poisoned!`
`05:17.23`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I have to beat it again!`
`05:17.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Psh`
`05:17.37`	`Otixa`	`ProzaicMuze, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw`
`05:17.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`your TD map will never be harder`
`05:17.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`enters cheat codes`
`05:17.51`	`SinisteRing`	`So a red error thing appears saying something about unable to read 'str' or whatever when I test my map. How do I figure out where the problem is, or remove the message?`
`05:17.57`	`Otixa`	`er`
`05:17.59`	`Otixa`	`onetwo*`
`05:18.00`	`LordAbyss`	`nullifies PM's cheat code with God Mode.`
`05:18.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`This video sucks`
`05:18.51`	`LordAbyss`	`what? my cinematic?`
`05:18.52`	`Otixa`	`So does your face, but we're not bitching about it Â¬_Â¬`
`05:18.54`	`LordAbyss`	`of course it does`
`05:18.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`That too`
`05:19.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But these hands, especially`
`05:19.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Otixa - you'd have to see my face before you could complain`
`05:19.20`	`Otixa`	`I complain by default`
`05:19.25`	`Otixa`	`So no need ;p`
`05:19.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Which may eventually happen, but whenever YOU try to view it your eyes will bleed and you will never see`
`05:19.42`	`Otixa`	`Gee, that bad? D:`
`05:19.52`	`Otixa`	`puts paper bag over ProzaicMuze's face`
`05:19.54`	`Otixa`	`Fix'd!`
`05:19.56`	`Otixa`	`;D`
`05:20.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Or I have Otixa killing eye beams`
`05:20.06`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`My girlfriend never liked that joke`
`05:20.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Maybe because you let her speak`
`05:20.22`	`Otixa`	`I'm immune to mortal weapons`
`05:20.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Duct Tape + Paper Bag is better`
`05:20.28`	`Otixa`	`And what PM said`
`05:20.28`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`05:20.36`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I'll try that`
`05:20.38`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`:D`
`05:20.43`	`Otixa`	`Now shush, I need to stir my pot noodle`
`05:21.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`NoU!`
`05:21.11`	`Otixa`	`Someone has to keep up the student stereotype ;p`
`05:21.21`	`Otixa`	`Pot noodle and beer diet`
`05:21.22`	`Otixa`	`lolo`
`05:22.07`	`onetwo`	`just like you morally bankrupted america`
`05:22.13`	`SinisteRing`	`How do I disable error messages from appearing on screen to players?`
`05:22.24`	`SinisteRing`	`Or how do I figure out how to make it stop?`
`05:22.26`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`onetwo, can you reset the stats or will it always say i made it to wave 30?`
`05:22.35`	`Moop`	`my actors are appearing for literally EVERY UNIT`
`05:22.37`	`Moop`	`what do`
`05:22.59`	`Otixa`	`Moop, harakiri`
`05:23.06`	`Otixa`	`Also, shouldn't you be sleeping?`
`05:23.17`	`Moop`	`meh`
`05:23.18`	`Otixa`	`I'm pretty sure that a human sleep cycle has already passed`
`05:23.19`	`SinisteRing`	`No one answers me. :(`
`05:23.31`	`Moop`	`sleep is for the week`
`05:23.36`	`Otixa`	`~8ball should we answer SinisteRing?`
`05:23.36`	`purl`	`Unsure.`
`05:23.43`	`Otixa`	`There you go`
`05:23.56`	`SinisteRing`	`~8ball should I get help?`
`05:23.56`	`purl`	`No.`
`05:23.57`	`onetwo`	`shawn itll always say that`
`05:24.00`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`~8ball Should Otixa answer SinisteRing`
`05:24.00`	`purl`	`Are you smoking crack?`
`05:24.01`	`SinisteRing`	`FCK`
`05:24.07`	`Otixa`	`xD`
`05:24.09`	`Otixa`	`See? ;p`
`05:24.11`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Sweet! I'm a win`
`05:24.13`	`Otixa`	`The odds are against you`
`05:24.14`	`SinisteRing`	`It always says no or unsure.`
`05:24.15`	`Otixa`	`3 in a row`
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`05:24.23`	`SinisteRing`	`There's no way to get a yes.`
`05:24.27`	`SinisteRing`	`It's rigged.`
`05:24.27`	`Otixa`	`~8ball Do I win?`
`05:24.27`	`purl`	`Absolutely.`
`05:24.34`	`Demalii`	`evening guys`
`05:24.38`	`SinisteRing`	`~8ball is this game rigged/`
`05:24.38`	`purl`	`Please ask again.`
`05:24.38`	`Otixa`	`:P`
`05:24.45`	`Otixa`	`hai2u2 Demalii`
`05:24.46`	`SinisteRing`	`~8ball is this game rigged?`
`05:24.46`	`purl`	`Sure. Yeah, exactly.`
`05:24.52`	`SinisteRing`	`Knew it.`
`05:25.01`	`SinisteRing`	`Brb.`
`05:25.03`	`Otixa`	`I sense sarcasm in purl's text`
`05:25.10`	`Demalii`	`lol`
`05:25.19`	`Otixa`	`~8ball Is it really rigged or do you just like me?`
`05:25.19`	`purl`	`Yes.`
`05:25.26`	`Otixa`	`shrugs`
`05:25.27`	`Demalii`	`haha`
`05:25.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~8ball does Purl actually hate Otixa and only give real answers for me?`
`05:25.33`	`purl`	`Are you smoking crack?`
`05:25.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`:*(`
`05:25.42`	`Demalii`	`ouch`
`05:25.47`	`Otixa`	`~8ball is PM a nubhat? :D`
`05:25.47`	`purl`	`Sure. Yeah, exactly.`
`05:25.56`	`Otixa`	`cackles`
`05:26.00`	`Demalii`	`~8ball Are you smoking crack?`
`05:26.00`	`purl`	`Unsure.`
`05:26.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`boo`
`05:26.04`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`~8ball Blarg?`
`05:26.04`	`purl`	`Absolutely.`
`05:26.27`	`Demalii`	`~8Ball is there a 20 doller bill in my pantalones?`
`05:26.27`	`purl`	`Yes.`
`05:26.27`	`Otixa`	`~8ball Am I smoking crack?`
`05:26.27`	`purl`	`No.`
`05:26.35`	`LordAbyss`	`~8ball was PM dead?`
`05:26.35`	`purl`	`No.`
`05:26.36`	`Demalii`	`lol`
`05:26.50`	`Demalii`	`~8Ball are you are male?`
`05:26.50`	`purl`	`Absolutely.`
`05:26.53`	`Otixa`	`We are easily amused`
`05:26.58`	`Demalii`	`~8Ball are you sure you're not a female?`
`05:26.59`	`purl`	`I'm sure of it.`
`05:27.02`	`Demalii`	`damn`
`05:27.07`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`~8ball Am I easily amused?`
`05:27.07`	`purl`	`Please ask again.`
`05:27.09`	`Otixa`	`Right`
`05:27.11`	`Demalii`	`~8Ball Seriously, are you a male?`
`05:27.12`	`purl`	`Please ask again.`
`05:27.14`	`Otixa`	`No more 3ds max for me today`
`05:27.27`	`Demalii`	`Otixa has left the Studio`
`05:27.32`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Otixa, make me a master chief for sc2`
`05:27.41`	`Otixa`	`~8ball Should I fuck off ModCraft this week?`
`05:27.41`	`purl`	`Negative.`
`05:27.44`	`onetwo`	`Otixa`
`05:27.45`	`Otixa`	`:(`
`05:27.46`	`onetwo`	`make me a star`
`05:27.51`	`Otixa`	`Oh, fuck you guys`
`05:27.52`	`Otixa`	`Â¬_Â¬`
`05:27.59`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Or find out how to rip models from ut3`
`05:28.01`	`Otixa`	`There's a star shape ingame already`
`05:28.02`	`Demalii`	`~8Ball is my map worthwile?`
`05:28.02`	`purl`	`No.`
`05:28.06`	`Demalii`	`nice`
`05:28.37`	`Otixa`	`~8ball Should I get someone else to host ModCraft this week so I can sleep all day?`
`05:28.38`	`purl`	`Sure. Yeah, exactly.`
`05:28.42`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`05:28.43`	`LordAbyss`	`~8 should i work on my boss fight after i do my math homework which i should start now?`
`05:28.46`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I'll do it!`
`05:28.47`	`LordAbyss`	`dammn it`
`05:28.52`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Wait, i know nothing`
`05:28.55`	`LordAbyss`	`~8ball should i work on my boss fight after i do my math homework which i should start now?`
`05:28.56`	`purl`	`Please ask again.`
`05:29.06`	`LordAbyss`	`~8ball should i work on my boss fight after i do my math homework which i should start now?.`
`05:29.06`	`purl`	`No.`
`05:29.10`	`LordAbyss`	`lolol`
`05:29.12`	`Otixa`	`Homework is for nubhats`
`05:29.49`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`~8ball Should I get married?`
`05:29.49`	`purl`	`Absolutely.`
`05:29.52`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Cool`
`05:29.56`	`Demalii`	`~8Ball will I earn over 5 million us dollers in my lifetime?`
`05:29.56`	`purl`	`Sure. Yeah, exactly.`
`05:29.56`	`Otixa`	`Owned`
`05:30.18`	`Demalii`	`~8Ball are you full of shit?`
`05:30.19`	`purl`	`Absolutely.`
`05:30.21`	`Otixa`	`checks EUR to USD rates`
`05:30.33`	`Moop`	`~8Ball should I continue to make Zealots Troll Tribes?`
`05:30.33`	`purl`	`Absolutely.`
`05:30.40`	`Otixa`	`Ohey, I'm about halfway there then :D`
`05:30.40`	`Moop`	`I mean, Island Zealot Tribes`
`05:30.47`	`LordAbyss`	`~8ball Will otixa finally realize that lordabyss is so much more amazing then he is?`
`05:30.47`	`purl`	`I'm sure of it.`
`05:30.50`	`LordAbyss`	`^^^`
`05:30.59`	`Otixa`	`/no`
`05:31.00`	`SinisteRing`	`So has anyone figured out how to use dialog sliders yet?`
`05:31.00`	`Demalii`	`jeeze 1.33 to 1 usd`
`05:31.07`	`SinisteRing`	`Or do I have the be the one to discover it?`
`05:31.25`	`Otixa`	`Demalii, that's 1.33USD to 1EUR`
`05:31.30`	`LordAbyss`	`~8ball does otixa have an accent?`
`05:31.30`	`purl`	`Yes.`
`05:31.37`	`LordAbyss`	`i can't remember, do you?`
`05:31.37`	`Otixa`	`I do not`
`05:31.39`	`Demalii`	`~8Ball does the end of year 2012 bring death to over 99% of the earth's population?`
`05:31.39`	`purl`	`Are you smoking crack?`
`05:31.42`	`Demalii`	`Otixa yea my bad`
`05:32.00`	`Otixa`	`Well, a bit of an accent, I s'pose`
`05:32.14`	`Otixa`	`People think I'm American tho`
`05:32.16`	`Otixa`	`So fuck that`
`05:32.19`	`LordAbyss`	`im american`
`05:32.21`	`LordAbyss`	`and i have no accent`
`05:32.28`	`Otixa`	`no shit`
`05:32.28`	`LordAbyss`	`like as bland as ever`
`05:32.32`	`Demalii`	`I'm swiss and spanish born in america =p`
`05:32.35`	`Otixa`	`English is my 3rd language ;p`
`05:32.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`America > All`
`05:32.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Win!`
`05:32.38`	`Demalii`	`i'm quite white though`
`05:32.40`	`LordAbyss`	`we in arizona have no accent`
`05:33.09`	`Otixa`	`I am starting to develop a british accent tho`
`05:33.11`	`Otixa`	`must gtfo`
`05:33.16`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Maybe I should go there. My monotone voice will be considered normal`
`05:33.18`	`LordAbyss`	`dirty brit`
`05:33.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I've decided the British Accent is worse than Southern Accents`
`05:33.30`	`Moop`	`why cant i copy/paste events + in actors?`
`05:33.35`	`Otixa`	`pours scalding hot pot noodle over LordAbyss`
`05:33.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Unless it's a woman, then somehow it has a 50/50 chance to be sexy.`
`05:33.48`	`LordAbyss`	`becuase you need to do it via raw values`
`05:33.50`	`Demalii`	`i don't have a southern accent and i've lived in san antonio my whole life heh`
`05:33.51`	`LordAbyss`	`just convert o raw`
`05:33.54`	`LordAbyss`	`copy and paste`
`05:33.57`	`LordAbyss`	`then put it to normal`
`05:34.05`	`Demalii`	`I lucked out really..`
`05:34.19`	`Otixa`	`Moop, gimmie the fucking troll tribe map`
`05:34.23`	`Otixa`	`well`
`05:34.25`	`Otixa`	`zealot`
`05:34.26`	`Otixa`	`same shit`
`05:34.36`	`Moop`	`its not done you :(`
`05:34.45`	`Otixa`	`FINISH NOW >:[`
`05:34.49`	`Otixa`	`And release on EU`
`05:34.53`	`Otixa`	`Or I'll hunt you down`
`05:34.55`	`Moop`	`this is like`
`05:35.00`	`Moop`	`day 3 of map editing for me :(`
`05:35.09`	`Otixa`	`/carepolice`
`05:35.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I vote you quit the map`
`05:35.12`	`Otixa`	`Wrap it up`
`05:35.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If Otixa wants it, it must be bad`
`05:35.16`	`Moop`	`i have to use a heuristic search algorithm to find my own anus in Galaxy Edit`
`05:35.27`	`Otixa`	`fu PM >:\|`
`05:35.36`	`Otixa`	`lol`
`05:36.27`	`Otixa`	`Also`
`05:36.31`	`Otixa`	`punches ProzaicMuze`
`05:36.33`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`05:37.03`	`Moop`	`umm`
`05:37.04`	`Moop`	`soo like`
`05:37.13`	`Moop`	`all these events in actors... can i just like... delete all that shit 8)`
`05:37.21`	`Moop`	`and just add the creation event`
`05:37.27`	`Moop`	`for like, items ya know`
`05:37.42`	`Moop`	`cuz this shit ain't working somehow it creates the actor for every unit`
`05:37.49`	`LordAbyss`	`hha`
`05:37.52`	`LordAbyss`	`actors`
`05:37.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you delete the map, it does the same thing`
`05:37.53`	`LordAbyss`	`suck`
`05:37.54`	`LordAbyss`	`ass`
`05:37.56`	`LordAbyss`	`and`
`05:38.00`	`LordAbyss`	`if PM says they are good`
`05:38.03`	`LordAbyss`	`he can burn`
`05:38.05`	`Moop`	`actors suck major donk`
`05:38.56`	`Otixa`	`Moop, port over to CryEngine3`
`05:38.58`	`Otixa`	`kk`
`05:40.23`	`Moop`	`i wish someone made a wc3 editor mode`
`05:40.29`	`Moop`	`that would auto link actors and all that bullshit`
`05:40.37`	`Moop`	`wc3 editor made simple things go so much easier`
`05:40.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Blasphemy`
`05:40.49`	`Moop`	`its like comparing java and assembly`
`05:41.04`	`Jum-Jum`	`I agree`
`05:41.13`	`Jum-Jum`	`Takes ages to create one unit`
`05:41.16`	`Otixa`	`Suck it up >:[`
`05:41.21`	`Jum-Jum`	`when in wc3 it was just copy-paste, then edit`
`05:41.26`	`LordAbyss`	`sc2 editor made some things easier`
`05:41.26`	`Moop`	`srsly`
`05:41.29`	`LordAbyss`	`i mean`
`05:41.30`	`LordAbyss`	`wc3`
`05:41.33`	`LordAbyss`	`but you were limited`
`05:41.34`	`Jum-Jum`	`but instead you have to cope a million things`
`05:41.35`	`Moop`	`yeah, easier to waste tons of time`
`05:41.37`	`LordAbyss`	`to what yo ucould program`
`05:41.47`	`Moop`	`well I can program like a boss`
`05:41.52`	`Jum-Jum`	`meh`
`05:42.11`	`Jum-Jum`	`So when you want to copy paste a unit and just modify it a bit, you need to copy a ton of shit`
`05:42.19`	`Moop`	`i made a captcha breaking clientless cheat program for neopets in middle school`
`05:42.26`	`Moop`	`i think I can use JASS adeptly D:`
`05:42.29`	`Skizot`	`FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF`
`05:42.39`	`Jum-Jum`	`and the whole "But its so more advanced!" if its so advanced then maybe they shouldve made copy pasting a tad easier?`
`05:42.46`	`Moop`	`^^`
`05:42.46`	`Jum-Jum`	`especially when you're making a map with a million custom units`
`05:42.49`	`Skizot`	`why is it throwing a billion errors when i try to save this freaking map`
`05:43.03`	`Moop`	`blizzard needs to add in a lite mode for editing or something`
`05:43.13`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Resinate (~IceChat7@c-24-16-10-232.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)`
`05:43.16`	`Resinate`	`uh guys`
`05:43.24`	`Resinate`	`is anyone having issues with uploading a map`
`05:43.27`	`Jum-Jum`	`nah just fix the copy pasting part imo >_>`
`05:43.34`	`Resinate`	`ever since 1.1 cam out i cant upload a map now`
`05:43.59`	`Resinate`	`unless the editor is shut off comeplete`
`05:44.32`	`LordAbyss`	`my itunes likes to act like it got reinstalled`
`05:44.41`	`Skizot`	`Unable to save archive header (Core: unexpected fatal error): G:\DropBox\My Dropbox\Public\TerranConflictv1.SC2Map`
`05:44.41`	`Jum-Jum`	`my editor is bugged`
`05:44.44`	`Skizot`	`wtf is that?`
`05:44.46`	`Otixa`	`What the editor needs`
`05:44.52`	`Jum-Jum`	`you know when you open up the trigger editor and you have that list? its duplicated... twice...`
`05:44.53`	`Resinate`	`so i take its offical`
`05:44.54`	`Otixa`	`Is fucking move,scale,rotate tools`
`05:44.57`	`Otixa`	`Like in 3ds max`
`05:44.58`	`Jum-Jum`	`so I have 3 triggers of the same trigger :P`
`05:44.59`	`Resinate`	`the editor temp shutdown by blizzad`
`05:45.07`	`Otixa`	`and bind S dor snap to grid`
`05:45.13`	`Otixa`	`But like in 3ds max`
`05:45.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`What the editor needs`
`05:45.21`	`Otixa`	`so you can snap to grid,verts,objects,etc`
`05:45.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it intelligent attachments`
`05:45.27`	`LordAbyss`	`^^^`
`05:45.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`so that you just take two objects and attach them ANYWHERE along a surface`
`05:45.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and it sticks to it`
`05:45.45`	`Otixa`	`ProzaicMuze, attachments are fine, l2p(as long as you don't need to rotate :P)`
`05:45.46`	`Resinate`	`am i globally ignored?`
`05:45.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Like 90% of every other editor that sticks things together`
`05:45.58`	`HeyRevolver`	`Anyone on US want to play my map and help me test the abilities?`
`05:45.58`	`Resinate`	`can anyone see my msgs?`
`05:45.59`	`Skizot`	`http://i.imgur.com/eX7ox.jpg`
`05:46.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Otixa, I can confidently say I'm the leading expert in attachments`
`05:46.02`	`Jum-Jum`	`i havent done anything with uploading since 1.0 Resinate`
`05:46.13`	`Resinate`	`publishing a map`
`05:46.17`	`Demalii`	`i will revolver`
`05:46.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Meaning if I say it needs improvement, I have valid reasons to believe so lol`
`05:46.18`	`Resinate`	`uploading a map same thing`
`05:46.26`	`Jum-Jum`	`hahahaha Skizot`
`05:46.27`	`Otixa`	`ProzaicMuze, that sounds about as nice as a leading expert in pancakes :/`
`05:46.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Not really`
`05:46.38`	`HeyRevolver`	`Or leading expert in modeling`
`05:46.40`	`Resinate`	`so not a single person here has uploaded a new map?`
`05:46.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`since the leading expert in pancakes is likely a french cook`
`05:46.45`	`Resinate`	`or an updated map`
`05:46.45`	`Otixa`	`Skizot's link is relevant to my statement`
`05:46.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`who is very wealthy`
`05:46.47`	`LordAbyss`	`pancakes?`
`05:46.50`	`Resinate`	`i find that hard as fck to believe`
`05:46.52`	`LordAbyss`	`PM MAKES PANCAKES!`
`05:46.53`	`LordAbyss`	`i want some`
`05:47.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Lies`
`05:47.07`	`Otixa`	`And thus, a rumor was born`
`05:47.11`	`HeyRevolver`	`My foot. Your face. Let's do this.`
`05:47.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`must be French then`
`05:47.21`	`Otixa`	`files dagger under face`
`05:47.29`	`HeyRevolver`	`SO crafty....`
`05:47.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`My foot. Your Dagger. Let's do this`
`05:47.33`	`LordAbyss`	`grabs said dagger`
`05:47.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Wait wut?`
`05:47.41`	`Otixa`	`stabs ProzaicMuze in the foot`
`05:47.42`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`05:47.47`	`SinisteRing`	`Is there a console/log of what happened within a test game of a SC2 map?`
`05:47.48`	`Otixa`	`shrugs`
`05:47.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`That sounds like a bad ghey joke`
`05:47.53`	`SinisteRing`	`Something that shows all the error messages you got?`
`05:47.54`	`Demalii`	`HeyRevolver want me to run a test?`
`05:47.55`	`HeyRevolver`	`its a bloodbath`
`05:47.56`	`HeyRevolver`	`take cover`
`05:47.59`	`LordAbyss`	`goes medivac on prozaicmuze's foot`
`05:48.08`	`HeyRevolver`	`Demalii yeah that would be awesome`
`05:48.19`	`Demalii`	`least I for some of yas`
`05:48.21`	`HeyRevolver`	`We need 2 more =D`
`05:48.23`	`Resinate`	`nice to see all u newbs ignoring me`
`05:48.24`	`Demalii`	`k`
`05:48.26`	`Otixa`	`My pot noodle is getting cold D:`
`05:48.35`	`Otixa`	`Ever tried eating a cold one? Â¬_Â¬`
`05:48.35`	`Demalii`	`how do I beep the person?`
`05:48.38`	`HeyRevolver`	`Resinate what are you cryin about now`
`05:48.38`	`Demalii`	`on irc?`
`05:48.40`	`Otixa`	`No? Try biting the wall`
`05:48.43`	`Otixa`	`Mmm... concrete`
`05:48.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Resinate - NoU!`
`05:48.50`	`Demalii`	`Resinate`
`05:48.50`	`Resinate`	`why the fck i uploade or update my map`
`05:48.55`	`HeyRevolver`	`loooooool`
`05:48.58`	`Resinate`	`i cant upload`
`05:49.05`	`Demalii`	`I am not pro with the editor, and these people are people too hah`
`05:49.05`	`HeyRevolver`	`LOL U MAD?`
`05:49.07`	`Resinate`	`doesnt upload at all`
`05:49.12`	`Demalii`	`they didn't log in to help Resinate all night`
`05:49.13`	`HeyRevolver`	`Game variants`
`05:49.16`	`Resinate`	`no its fking retarded`
`05:49.17`	`Otixa`	`Resinate, Blizzard's way of telling you "u sux l2p"`
`05:49.24`	`Resinate`	`i just wasted an hour updating my map`
`05:49.26`	`Resinate`	`fixing the ai`
`05:49.35`	`Demalii`	`have you searched b.net forums?`
`05:49.39`	`Demalii`	`for any like postings?`
`05:49.42`	`Resinate`	`something uploaded when i shutdown the editor`
`05:49.49`	`HeyRevolver`	`Oh you mean not being able to publish sets your map back an hour now? damn`
`05:49.50`	`Otixa`	`Did you try turning your computer off and on again?`
`05:49.54`	`HeyRevolver`	`I hope mine never doesnt publish`
`05:49.58`	`LordAbyss`	`i uploaded PM`
`05:50.01`	`LordAbyss`	`PM's map`
`05:50.02`	`Resinate`	`no my map didnt revert`
`05:50.03`	`LordAbyss`	`under my name`
`05:50.09`	`Resinate`	`i just cant publish it`
`05:50.10`	`HeyRevolver`	`I was being sarcastic`
`05:50.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Uh oh`
`05:50.11`	`Resinate`	`no errors`
`05:50.17`	`Resinate`	`just stays at 0%`
`05:50.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`now everyone is gonna mob rush your map`
`05:50.19`	`Otixa`	`Resinate, are you using the latest drivers for your video card?`
`05:50.21`	`HeyRevolver`	`You didnt waste an hour, you wasted 5 minuts realizing you couldnt publish`
`05:50.25`	`HeyRevolver`	`Dont be so damn dramatic`
`05:50.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`you sound like a woman`
`05:50.38`	`Resinate`	`rev shut up`
`05:50.39`	`LordAbyss`	`hey revolver`
`05:50.40`	`HeyRevolver`	`hahahaah`
`05:50.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`NoU!`
`05:50.44`	`LordAbyss`	`take that revolver`
`05:50.48`	`LordAbyss`	`and revolve it`
`05:50.50`	`HeyRevolver`	`ow`
`05:50.53`	`Demalii`	`~8Ball Can you teach me to be cool like Resinate?`
`05:50.54`	`purl`	`I'm not sure.`
`05:50.59`	`Demalii`	`yea I figured as much..`
`05:51.05`	`LordAbyss`	`~8ball can anyone be as cool as me?`
`05:51.05`	`purl`	`I'm not sure.`
`05:51.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~8ball does Resinate have a tiny penis?`
`05:51.07`	`purl`	`Yes.`
`05:51.11`	`HeyRevolver`	`~8ball do cows fly on tuesday night sometimes in billies back yard?`
`05:51.11`	`purl`	`I'm sure of it.`
`05:51.12`	`Otixa`	`XD`
`05:51.12`	`Demalii`	`hahaha`
`05:51.14`	`HeyRevolver`	`I KNEW IT`
`05:51.19`	`Demalii`	`lolol`
`05:51.21`	`SinisteRing`	`So I come here expecting to get help for my issues with the map editor and help learning. Instead, I get a bunch of trolls and casuals talking about the most random shit possible and abusing an 8ball irc mod. Awesome, just awesome. Way to make a name for yourselves.`
`05:51.22`	`Demalii`	`nice questions`
`05:51.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmao`
`05:51.32`	`HeyRevolver`	`hahahahah`
`05:51.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Sinister`
`05:51.33`	`Demalii`	`dude`
`05:51.35`	`HeyRevolver`	`another person`
`05:51.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`get over yourself`
`05:51.36`	`LordAbyss`	`wewt!`
`05:51.37`	`Resinate`	`this irc isnt mapster`
`05:51.38`	`Demalii`	`these people have helped me a lot`
`05:51.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you have a question`
`05:51.40`	`HeyRevolver`	`who thinks we are obligated to help him`
`05:51.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`ask it`
`05:51.42`	`HeyRevolver`	`GTFO`
`05:51.44`	`Resinate`	`its just a random irc chat`
`05:51.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`We arent' serious`
`05:51.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`because serious crap is boring`
`05:51.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Instead, we have fun`
`05:51.54`	`Otixa`	`srs fucking business`
`05:51.57`	`Demalii`	`I mean I will spam questions, and any that get answered, I say thanks..`
`05:51.59`	`SinisteRing`	`Prozaic, I have asked plenty of times and I simply get ignored.`
`05:52.06`	`HeyRevolver`	`because youre a douche`
`05:52.09`	`HeyRevolver`	`try being nice`
`05:52.20`	`Demalii`	`sheesh`
`05:52.20`	`LordAbyss`	`or use query`
`05:52.22`	`SinisteRing`	`You're jumping to conclusions. What do you base me being a douchebag off of?`
`05:52.23`	`LordAbyss`	`it flashes red for us`
`05:52.26`	`LordAbyss`	`we are slow`
`05:52.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmao`
`05:52.29`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol im just trolling you dude`
`05:52.31`	`HeyRevolver`	`I <3 everyone`
`05:52.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Well I had everyone`
`05:52.41`	`Otixa`	`SinisteRing`
`05:52.41`	`Otixa`	`[06:51] <SinisteRing> So I come here expecting to get help for my issues with the map editor and help learning. Instead, I get a bunch of trolls and casuals talking about the most random shit possible and abusing an 8ball irc mod. Awesome, just awesome. Way to make a name for yourselves.`
`05:52.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`especially SinisteRing`
`05:52.47`	`Otixa`	`^ This might be a good start :D`
`05:52.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`hate*`
`05:52.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But yoru console log`
`05:52.58`	`Demalii`	`revolver beep me if you need me, I'm going to be in the editor`
`05:53.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`is where every other log is at`
`05:53.06`	`HeyRevolver`	`Ok Demalii thanks again`
`05:53.08`	`HeyRevolver`	`I will let youknow`
`05:53.14`	`Demalii`	`kk`
`05:53.19`	`Otixa`	`Shut up woman get on my horse`
`05:53.21`	`LordAbyss`	`guys....don't scare him too much`
`05:53.26`	`SinisteRing`	`Where do I see the console log?`
`05:53.47`	`HeyRevolver`	`Console log?`
`05:53.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Console log`
`05:53.57`	`Otixa`	`Console lag?`
`05:54.00`	`HeyRevolver`	`Is that like a yeultide log?`
`05:54.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`TBH I'm not sure the editor has the exact log you want`
`05:54.39`	`Otixa`	`HeyRevolver, I think you need rainbow bunnies`
`05:54.47`	`LordAbyss`	`NO`
`05:54.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`but if you go to the install directory, there might be a txt file with error in the name`
`05:54.48`	`onetwo`	`console log`
`05:54.49`	`LordAbyss`	`they are mine`
`05:54.49`	`HeyRevolver`	`I deifnitely need rainbow bunnies`
`05:54.53`	`HeyRevolver`	`and like, 6 unicors`
`05:54.55`	`HeyRevolver`	`unicorns*`
`05:55.13`	`HeyRevolver`	`and maybe some sprinkled sundrop jellytime`
`05:55.17`	`Otixa`	`uni4,7colors?`
`05:55.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`BTW`
`05:55.27`	`LordAbyss`	`how do you do that!`
`05:55.29`	`LordAbyss`	`i must know`
`05:55.34`	`Otixa`	`Magic! @_.`
`05:55.36`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`05:55.40`	`LordAbyss`	`don't even go there`
`05:55.44`	`LordAbyss`	`TELL MEH`
`05:55.47`	`HeyRevolver`	`You have to be a pro`
`05:55.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm a douchebag, so any future accusations that I'm a douchebag are null and void`
`05:55.50`	`HeyRevolver`	`and it has NOTHING to do with the crayons`
`05:55.53`	`HeyRevolver`	`at the top of the screen`
`05:55.54`	`HeyRevolver`	`in mirc`
`05:56.02`	`Otixa`	`LordAbyss, alt+f4 and type in the color name`
`05:56.08`	`Otixa`	`and press space`
`05:56.12`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`05:56.24`	`LordAbyss`	`don't`
`05:56.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`13 vagina`
`05:56.27`	`LordAbyss`	`even do that`
`05:56.29`	`LordAbyss`	`alt f4`
`05:56.32`	`LordAbyss`	`is serious bizz`
`05:56.44`	`HeyRevolver`	`i'm so l33t`
`05:56.56`	`Otixa`	`rly? ;o`
`05:56.56`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Alt F4? How do I do that?`
`05:57.06`	`Otixa`	`Shawn\|rawr, press the any key`
`05:57.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`A + l + t + f + 4`
`05:57.12`	`HeyRevolver`	`twice`
`05:57.20`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Oh ok`
`05:57.23`	`LordAbyss`	`why won't my colors work!`
`05:57.25`	`HeyRevolver`	`it take all 5 fingers`
`05:57.32`	`HeyRevolver`	`LordAbyss`
`05:57.36`	`HeyRevolver`	`change the Own Text`
`05:57.37`	`HeyRevolver`	`color`
`05:57.46`	`LordAbyss`	`is this sexy?`
`05:57.52`	`SinisteRing`	`That wasn't the console log I was hoping for. Damn.`
`05:57.52`	`HeyRevolver`	`no`
`05:57.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`4no but this is sexier`
`05:57.57`	`HeyRevolver`	`owned.`
`05:58.00`	`LordAbyss`	`is it atleast blue?`
`05:58.07`	`Otixa`	`ProzaicMuze, I just tried pressing them all with one hand and my ring finger couldn't stretch that far and I was like FFFUUUUU`
`05:58.09`	`HeyRevolver`	`no`
`05:58.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@SinisteRing - like I said, i dont' think Blizzard has put in the kinda log you want :*(`
`05:58.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmao`
`05:58.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I can press all them keys with one hand ;)`
`05:58.36`	`Otixa`	`Lies`
`05:58.42`	`Otixa`	`Screenshot or it didn't happen`
`05:58.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`a = pinky`
`05:58.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`l = index`
`05:58.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`t = middle finger`
`05:59.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`f = thumb`
`05:59.03`	`HeyRevolver`	`I can press all those keys with one finger`
`05:59.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`4 = ring finger`
`05:59.08`	`Otixa`	`Keyboard too big, index can't reach`
`05:59.13`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`blargs`
`05:59.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Then yoru keyboard sucks`
`05:59.21`	`Otixa`	`NoU >:[`
`05:59.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`NoHim!`
`05:59.39`	`Otixa`	`It r alienwarez`
`05:59.43`	`Otixa`	`humps his laptop`
`05:59.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`ewww`
`05:59.48`	`LordAbyss`	`a mans hand size is proportional to his penis size, in the sense that the bigger the hand = smaller penis`
`05:59.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that is teh icky`
`05:59.54`	`HeyRevolver`	`smacks SinisterRing on the ass with an open palm really fucking hard, like, its gonna leave a mark`
`05:59.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmfao`
`06:00.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`so by that logic asians have the biggest penises ever`
`06:00.15`	`LordAbyss`	`there is one exception`
`06:00.15`	`LordAbyss`	`or 2`
`06:00.16`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`only the girls`
`06:00.24`	`Otixa`	`lol`
`06:00.32`	`Otixa`	`also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbGmrMN3saE`
`06:00.48`	`HeyRevolver`	`have you guys seen that video of a guy putting his dogs in the bathtub?`
`06:00.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Amazing horse is ghey`
`06:01.02`	`LordAbyss`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0`
`06:01.05`	`LordAbyss`	`better`
`06:01.06`	`Otixa`	`Amazing horse is amazing`
`06:01.08`	`Otixa`	`Discuss`
`06:01.08`	`LordAbyss`	`then amazing horse`
`06:01.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Rick roll is gheyer`
`06:01.25`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`06:01.56`	`HeyRevolver`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wwJUZCfpuI`
`06:02.08`	`Otixa`	`DickTroll?`
`06:02.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Phil collins is teh most ghey`
`06:02.21`	`HeyRevolver`	`We arent talking about what you do in your spare time Otixa`
`06:02.37`	`RickRoll`	`so`
`06:02.38`	`Otixa`	`trolls HeyRevolver's dick`
`06:02.44`	`RickRoll`	`is sinestering still mad at us?`
`06:02.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes`
`06:02.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`but by us`
`06:02.52`	`HeyRevolver`	`I.. don't even..`
`06:02.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I mean you`
`06:02.55`	`Otixa`	`Yes gaiz, you made him sad`
`06:03.05`	`HeyRevolver`	`he needs some phill collins`
`06:03.10`	`HeyRevolver`	`too bad this isnt vent i would play it for him`
`06:03.21`	`HeyRevolver`	`banhammer`
`06:03.22`	`HeyRevolver`	`incoming in`
`06:03.23`	`HeyRevolver`	`5`
`06:03.26`	`HeyRevolver`	`4`
`06:03.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`0`
`06:03.31`	`Otixa`	`PM can't ban ;p`
`06:03.33`	`LordAbyssssss`	`lol`
`06:03.34`	`HeyRevolver`	`i know`
`06:03.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Oh I so can ban`
`06:03.48`	`Otixa`	`No, you can't :P`
`06:03.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`SIXEN!`
`06:03.52`	`HeyRevolver`	`LOl`
`06:03.56`	`LordAbyssssss`	`damnit`
`06:03.56`	`Otixa`	`lol`
`06:03.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I HAVE COOKIES!`
`06:03.59`	`LordAbyssssss`	`sixen would ban me`
`06:04.01`	`LordAbyssssss`	`he goes to asu`
`06:04.05`	`LordAbyssssss`	`and i go to UofA`
`06:04.06`	`HeyRevolver`	`wai`
`06:04.12`	`HeyRevolver`	`Appalachian State University?`
`06:04.17`	`LordAbyss`	`arizona`
`06:04.20`	`HeyRevolver`	`oh`
`06:04.29`	`HeyRevolver`	`I went to the other ASU`
`06:04.33`	`Otixa`	`It's ok guys`
`06:04.37`	`Otixa`	`I'd ban you all`
`06:04.41`	`LordAbyss`	`SIXEN, YOU SUCK`
`06:04.42`	`Otixa`	`Just because :D`
`06:04.42`	`HeyRevolver`	`You had the chance`
`06:04.46`	`HeyRevolver`	`then Sixen was all`
`06:04.47`	`Demalii`	`is there a simple way to set a mineral reward for whoever kills that unit? (like an experience setting?)`
`06:04.49`	`HeyRevolver`	`YOU DONT WORK FOR CURSE`
`06:04.49`	`HeyRevolver`	`GTFO`
`06:05.00`	`Otixa`	`Yeh, he's a homo :/`
`06:05.03`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`06:05.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I should apply fro Curse`
`06:05.07`	`LordAbyss`	`i have no idea demalii`
`06:05.10`	`HeyRevolver`	`he's doing his job MAN`
`06:05.11`	`LordAbyss`	`it might be a trigger`
`06:05.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Just so I coudl ban you`
`06:05.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and then get fired`
`06:05.17`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`06:05.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and tell the story later`
`06:05.19`	`Demalii`	`ok`
`06:05.19`	`LordAbyss`	`ask pm`
`06:05.22`	`LordAbyss`	`he might know`
`06:05.26`	`LordAbyss`	`if its data editor thing`
`06:05.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If it's a specific unit, you can have a behavior on the unit`
`06:05.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and when it ends, it gives money to the killer`
`06:05.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`or`
`06:05.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`if it's any unit`
`06:05.56`	`Otixa`	`Just do a damn trigger`
`06:05.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you'll want to use triggers`
`06:06.03`	`LordAbyss`	`don't`
`06:06.06`	`LordAbyss`	`listen to otixa`
`06:06.06`	`Sixen`	`?`
`06:06.08`	`Demalii`	`ok I'm going to set per unit`
`06:06.08`	`Otixa`	`WHEN SHIT DIES > GIVE MURDEROUS FAGGOT SOME CASH FOR HOOKERS`
`06:06.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Sixen`
`06:06.11`	`Otixa`	`There.`
`06:06.11`	`Jum-Jum`	`http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/Jum-Jum/Screenshot2010-09-2407_55_45.jpg`
`06:06.12`	`Jum-Jum`	`http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/Jum-Jum/Screenshot2010-09-2407_53_29.jpg`
`06:06.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`ban LordAbyss`
`06:06.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`for like`
`06:06.15`	`Jum-Jum`	`What you guys think?`
`06:06.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`1min`
`06:06.17`	`Demalii`	`so on the behavior where do I look for this?`
`06:06.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`just so I can flex my muscles`
`06:06.20`	`LordAbyss`	`no don't`
`06:06.25`	`LordAbyss`	`ban pm`
`06:06.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you ban me`
`06:06.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'll. . .`
`06:06.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`do. . .`
`06:06.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`something very naughty`
`06:06.39`	`Jum-Jum`	`what the hell are you guys doing?`
`06:06.44`	`Sixen`	`o_o`
`06:06.58`	`LordAbyss`	`i know what school you go to sixen`
`06:07.00`	`Jum-Jum`	`hint special olympics picture`
`06:07.03`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`06:07.04`	`Otixa`	`Beer and hookers, obviously`
`06:07.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I think that's a ramp`
`06:07.38`	`Otixa`	`I think it's a "WIP"`
`06:07.46`	`Otixa`	`It says so right there!`
`06:07.48`	`LordAbyss`	`thank you jum jum, you came in at the right time so i wouldn't get banned!`
`06:07.50`	`LordAbyss`	`HA PM`
`06:07.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`No`
`06:07.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it's a mispelled Whip`
`06:07.56`	`Otixa`	`pokes ProzaicMuze's face in the screen`
`06:08.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ekcolnovkol\|zzzz (ekcolnovko@pool-98-116-29-39.nycmny.east.verizon.net)`
`06:08.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`My face is unpokable`
`06:08.27`	`Otixa`	`Don't make me get tha whip! >:[`
`06:08.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I eat whips`
`06:08.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So please do`
`06:08.39`	`Otixa`	`No, you eat chips`
`06:08.41`	`Otixa`	`Not whips`
`06:08.48`	`LordAbyss`	`and i eat you`
`06:08.51`	`LordAbyss`	`OM NOM NOM`
`06:08.57`	`Otixa`	`LordAbyss, no homo >:\|`
`06:09.03`	`LordAbyss`	`ummm`
`06:09.06`	`Demalii`	`Prozaic where in the behavior, which tab?`
`06:09.07`	`LordAbyss`	`i don't touch before eat`
`06:09.08`	`LordAbyss`	`i just eat`
`06:09.18`	`Demalii`	`like modifications, then what?`
`06:09.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Damage response is a good start`
`06:09.23`	`Demalii`	`ohh ok`
`06:09.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`"You were thinking you can't live without me. Which is exactly the way I feel about you"`
`06:09.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`That is the lamest line ever`
`06:10.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`A teenager told another teenager this`
`06:10.11`	`LordAbyss`	`hey pm`
`06:10.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`What kinda show is this`
`06:10.20`	`LordAbyss`	`"You were thinking you can't live without me. Which is exactly the way I feel about you"`
`06:10.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Teenaged Soap Operas are teh ghey`
`06:10.36`	`Otixa`	`throws chair at ProzaicMuze`
`06:10.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`ZOMG THEY IS GETTING NEKKID!`
`06:10.47`	`LordAbyss`	`throws a couch at Otixa`
`06:11.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`wtf, she's growing wheird tentac. . . . oh he is so dead`
`06:11.09`	`Otixa`	`Song of the now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi9EEiU-MIM&NR=1`
`06:11.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Silent Hill sucks`
`06:11.41`	`Otixa`	`Shudup, homo. Listen to the song`
`06:11.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`ho hum`
`06:11.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`We are such a violent people`
`06:12.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I have an idea`
`06:12.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`My youtube channel`
`06:12.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`you got that right`
`06:12.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes, let's make this about me`
`06:12.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`no, MY youtube channel`
`06:12.20`	`Otixa`	`Your channel sucks`
`06:12.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`:*(`
`06:12.27`	`Otixa`	`no, ModCraft!`
`06:12.44`	`Otixa`	`So... We're talking about ModCraft`
`06:12.49`	`LordAbyss`	`no`
`06:12.49`	`Otixa`	`Discuss`
`06:12.50`	`LordAbyss`	`we are not`
`06:12.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`model a gigantic butt`
`06:13.00`	`Otixa`	`Dickbutt?`
`06:13.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes.`
`06:13.10`	`Otixa`	`BOING`
`06:13.10`	`LordAbyss`	`model`
`06:13.12`	`LordAbyss`	`A MARINE!`
`06:13.20`	`LordAbyss`	`like those`
`06:13.21`	`LordAbyss`	`in sc2`
`06:13.22`	`LordAbyss`	`you know`
`06:13.24`	`Otixa`	`waves hands mystically`
`06:13.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`can't model characters sry`
`06:13.27`	`Otixa`	`Done`
`06:13.28`	`Resinate`	`ROFL`
`06:13.31`	`Resinate`	`blizaard fails`
`06:13.35`	`Resinate`	`i found the glitch`
`06:13.47`	`Otixa`	`noone cares Resinate. Go away`
`06:13.48`	`Resinate`	`they took out VE E N H VH I`
`06:13.55`	`Resinate`	`and use 4 ais now`
`06:13.59`	`Otixa`	`waves dismissively`
`06:14.02`	`Resinate`	`theres no such thing as insane AI now`
`06:14.13`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Just start the video, then have a "technical error" for about 15 minutes, then load up a marine model and tell everyone how sorry you are that they missed it`
`06:14.19`	`Resinate`	`yay thank you blizzard for killing my map`
`06:14.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Q.Q`
`06:14.29`	`Otixa`	`Shawn\|rawr, exactly :D`
`06:14.53`	`Otixa`	`lol`
`06:14.59`	`Otixa`	`I think we upset him :D`
`06:15.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmao`
`06:15.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I chased him away`
`06:15.11`	`Otixa`	`You senseless pricks >:[`
`06:15.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Psh`
`06:15.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`06:15.18`	`LordAbyss`	`it was all PM`
`06:15.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Not my fault nobody has asked a DE question in the last hour`
`06:15.25`	`Otixa`	`I know, right`
`06:15.25`	`LordAbyss`	`but if sixen asks`
`06:15.33`	`LordAbyss`	`we will say it was vjeux`
`06:15.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I become a terrible jewmonster if people don't ask questions`
`06:15.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Even though Vjeux isn't even online`
`06:15.43`	`Sixen`	`who did it`
`06:15.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I like this idea`
`06:15.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Vjeux did it!`
`06:15.54`	`Sixen`	`k`
`06:15.55`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Ok how would I make a behavior that makes a unit slow down to a stop and spin around while doing it?`
`06:15.55`	`LordAbyss`	`Vjeux did it!`
`06:15.59`	`Otixa`	`vjeux did it!`
`06:16.19`	`Jum-Jum`	`like when someone drives over a banan in mario kart?`
`06:16.23`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Yes`
`06:16.30`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Actually, exactly that effect`
`06:16.38`	`Otixa`	`PM, answer the man >:[`
`06:16.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`slow its speed with behavior`
`06:16.49`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I tried doing it with trigger and actor messages, but it looked very weird`
`06:16.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and then use actor events to change facing`
`06:17.11`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Ya, but with the facing, it doesnt work if the unit is moving`
`06:17.14`	`LordAbyss`	`stop being so smart pm, you will scare him away also`
`06:17.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`sure it does`
`06:17.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You can use Explicition Rotation actors`
`06:17.38`	`LordAbyss`	`those things`
`06:17.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So that it's facing is away from the direction it moves`
`06:17.39`	`LordAbyss`	`ewww`
`06:17.41`	`Demalii`	`I can only modify a speed bonus %, not an actual integer right?`
`06:18.40`	`LordAbyss`	`~8ball should i do my math homework now?`
`06:18.40`	`purl`	`Absolutely.`
`06:18.43`	`LordAbyss`	`damn it`
`06:18.44`	`LordAbyss`	`you don't say that`
`06:19.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I believe you can do both`
`06:19.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But % is easier`
`06:19.49`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`PM, I'm in Send Actor Message, and I'm looking in the list, which is it?`
`06:19.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`No idea`
`06:20.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I dont' do triggers`
`06:20.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm talking about actor events in the DE`
`06:20.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`as opposed to actor messages in triggers`
`06:20.32`	`LordAbyss`	`he doesn't know anything about triggers`
`06:20.34`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Oh, lol.. then I'm in the wrong one`
`06:20.41`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Thought you meant triggers`
`06:20.53`	`LordAbyss`	`rule 2: don't ask pm about triggers`
`06:21.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`hates triggers`
`06:21.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`would gladly kill triggers if it were possible`
`06:21.23`	`SCLMaul`	`hey guys`
`06:21.28`	`SCLMaul`	`i heard vjeux did it`
`06:21.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`He did it!`
`06:21.42`	`LordAbyss`	`he did!`
`06:21.43`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Ok, so I've never made a behavior before, what kind of behavior should it be?`
`06:21.45`	`LordAbyss`	`and sixen must know`
`06:21.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Behavior - BUff`
`06:23.01`	`LordAbyss`	`also, if they asked what vjeux did, we say rodrigo told him to do it`
`06:23.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`no no`
`06:23.34`	`SinisteRing`	`http://pastebin.org/1140922`
`06:23.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Otixa made rodrigo tell him to do it`
`06:23.40`	`SinisteRing`	`Can anyone explain to me why the error at the bottom happens in-game?`
`06:23.51`	`SinisteRing`	`The actual function works, but I'm not sure why it says it has an error.`
`06:23.53`	`Otixa`	`The who in the what now?`
`06:23.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`cameras wtf`
`06:24.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`how do I limit pitch movement?`
`06:24.06`	`Otixa`	`The only thing I told Rodrigo is not to talk while I'm here`
`06:24.06`	`Otixa`	`ever`
`06:24.18`	`LordAbyss`	`haha`
`06:24.22`	`LordAbyss`	`he is annoying`
`06:24.48`	`LordAbyss`	`hey ummm sinester`
`06:24.50`	`LordAbyss`	`i have no idea`
`06:24.54`	`LordAbyss`	`i don't use script`
`06:24.58`	`LordAbyss`	`i just use the gui`
`06:25.04`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Lol.. one of the tut's link is screwed up`
`06:25.20`	`LordAbyss`	`and i am not patient enough to try and look through it to see if i can learn the code and find the error at the same time`
`06:25.27`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`the behavior one by ProzaicMuze`
`06:25.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`which link?`
`06:26.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Azoth (got_Ammo@dynamic2-251-032.usc.edu)`
`06:26.15`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Your behavior tutorial on the Galaxy Wiki - API Docs`
`06:26.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I have a behavior tutorial?`
`06:26.34`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`it says hhttp:://etcetc`
`06:26.39`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`so my firefox wont open it`
`06:26.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I wasn't aware I have a behavior tutorial :S`
`06:26.52`	`LordAbyss`	`vjeux did it`
`06:26.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`^^`
`06:27.36`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`The Panic and Berkerk one`
`06:27.41`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Berserk*`
`06:28.26`	`LordAbyss`	`Sixen, Vjeux did it! HE soooo did it!!!`
`06:28.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Ah`
`06:29.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`well Sixen might not have fixed that`
`06:29.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`since when he moved the tutorials section all links got screwed up`
`06:29.23`	`LordAbyss`	`yea`
`06:29.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you go to my sig and find my tutorial archive thread, those should be working`
`06:29.30`	`LordAbyss`	`he srewed up my links also`
`06:30.14`	`SinisteRing`	`LordAbyss, the link I posted has GUI code in it.`
`06:30.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`"I am drawn to you like gravity, which is why I need to get as far away from you as I can. I will never forget you and I will love you forever"`
`06:30.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`wtf`
`06:30.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`That is so corny`
`06:30.35`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`06:30.44`	`Sixen`	`what'd I do`
`06:30.45`	`LordAbyss`	`well, there is some stuff i don't know, which means it would be hard for me to decipher, and i have to do homework`
`06:30.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you banned LordAbyss`
`06:30.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`because you called your mom fat`
`06:30.57`	`LordAbyss`	`no you didn't`
`06:31.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you = he`
`06:31.20`	`LordAbyss`	`commands sixen to not ban him.`
`06:31.32`	`Sixen`	`pfft. That was PM making a typo`
`06:31.34`	`Sixen`	`fixed the tuts page`
`06:31.53`	`LordAbyss`	`HA`
`06:31.54`	`LordAbyss`	`pm`
`06:31.57`	`LordAbyss`	`you can't get me banned`
`06:32.02`	`LordAbyss`	`I AM INVULNERABLE`
`06:32.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`:*(`
`06:32.17`	`Sixen`	`ok I gotta sleep`
`06:32.20`	`Sixen`	`Tomorrow, I will be a new man.`
`06:32.21`	`LordAbyss`	`wtf`
`06:32.24`	`LordAbyss`	`its only 11:30`
`06:32.29`	`Sixen`	`I have to get up at 5`
`06:32.30`	`Sixen`	`:(`
`06:32.35`	`LordAbyss`	`weakling`
`06:32.37`	`LordAbyss`	`asu weakling`
`06:32.39`	`Sixen`	`agree`
`06:32.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`School is for losers`
`06:32.47`	`Sixen`	`You'llall love me more tomorrow`
`06:32.48`	`Sixen`	`:)`
`06:32.49`	`SinisteRing`	`Wow.`
`06:32.51`	`SinisteRing`	`My map crashed`
`06:32.53`	`SinisteRing`	`The editor.`
`06:32.54`	`SinisteRing`	`Awesome.`
`06:32.56`	`onetwo`	`?`
`06:33.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'll love you most now if you ban LordAbyss`
`06:33.04`	`onetwo`	`oh i found out`
`06:33.06`	`Sixen`	`Oh yes. Even you, 12.`
`06:33.08`	`onetwo`	`that my youtube is still in review`
`06:33.10`	`onetwo`	`for partner`
`06:33.11`	`onetwo`	`rofl`
`06:33.14`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`06:33.14`	`onetwo`	`supposed to take 2 days`
`06:33.16`	`onetwo`	`its been like a month`
`06:33.43`	`Sixen`	`Demalii.... Holy shit.`
`06:33.55`	`onetwo`	`my td is on the top of page 4 now`
`06:33.56`	`Demalii`	`?`
`06:33.59`	`Sixen`	`Are you the same Demalii from SC1? The guy that made Delan Bound?`
`06:34.02`	`onetwo`	`its hard to get noticed`
`06:34.04`	`Demalii`	`haha yea`
`06:34.06`	`Sixen`	`No way.`
`06:34.07`	`Demalii`	`and blulit bound xpan`
`06:34.09`	`Demalii`	`yep`
`06:34.11`	`Demalii`	`tis me`
`06:34.12`	`Sixen`	`I'm x2G)LeGaCy`
`06:34.15`	`Demalii`	`ohh sob`
`06:34.18`	`Demalii`	`what's up!`
`06:34.19`	`onetwo`	`make out sess?`
`06:34.21`	`Sixen`	`We used your maps to recruit for the clan`
`06:34.22`	`Sixen`	`Crazy dude.`
`06:34.24`	`Demalii`	`circle jerk`
`06:34.26`	`LordAbyss`	`make up sex`
`06:34.27`	`Demalii`	`yea i remember`
`06:34.28`	`Sixen`	`lol no doubt`
`06:34.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Wtf`
`06:34.34`	`Demalii`	`you know I finished x2g) bound sometime ago`
`06:34.38`	`Demalii`	`it's retarded hard`
`06:34.40`	`Sixen`	`I still go back and play Delan bound every so often`
`06:34.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You make some random map and now Sixen lubs you more den me :*(`
`06:34.44`	`Demalii`	`nice man`
`06:34.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I hate you`
`06:34.45`	`Sixen`	`lol! I never got you, need to send it to me.`
`06:34.46`	`Demalii`	`sixen`
`06:34.49`	`Demalii`	`i also made blulit bound 2`
`06:34.53`	`Sixen`	`Geez`
`06:34.55`	`Demalii`	`and a heaven bound 2010`
`06:34.57`	`Demalii`	`and sc2 bound`
`06:34.58`	`Sixen`	`I loved Bluelit btw`
`06:35.01`	`Demalii`	`thanks man`
`06:35.04`	`Sixen`	`SC2 Bound in SC2?`
`06:35.05`	`Sixen`	`Or SC1`
`06:35.09`	`Demalii`	`sc1 yea =(`
`06:35.11`	`Sixen`	`:(`
`06:35.18`	`Sixen`	`You need to make Delan Bound2 for SC2.`
`06:35.19`	`Sixen`	`Gotta do it.`
`06:35.24`	`LordAbyss`	`hey sixen, i will make a bound`
`06:35.24`	`Demalii`	`but they're all on angelfarto.com`
`06:35.25`	`Demalii`	`haha`
`06:35.27`	`LordAbyss`	`and it will say`
`06:35.29`	`LordAbyss`	`asu sucks`
`06:35.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`bounds are lame`
`06:35.36`	`Demalii`	`no one is going to bound anymore =(`
`06:35.40`	`Sixen`	`I am going to bound`
`06:35.42`	`Demalii`	`the galaxy editor is so strong`
`06:35.45`	`Sixen`	`Level Up Bound got featured.`
`06:35.49`	`Demalii`	`yea it did but`
`06:36.01`	`Demalii`	`that was just another level bound from the tons that were made in sc1`
`06:36.09`	`Sixen`	`=/`
`06:36.16`	`Sixen`	`Make Delan Bound2`
`06:36.20`	`Sixen`	`I'll get it featured.`
`06:36.28`	`Demalii`	`angelfarto terms blulit bound a revolutiuon in bounding, because I added bonus level and shit`
`06:36.40`	`Demalii`	`there's nothing revolutionary that can be done at this point to make bounding popular for sc`
`06:36.43`	`Sixen`	`lol Bluelit was awesome. Went through it and then backwards`
`06:36.43`	`Demalii`	`I just can;t see it`
`06:36.50`	`Demalii`	`hehe`
`06:37.00`	`Sixen`	`Dema, you can be the father of SC2 Boundig.`
`06:37.00`	`Demalii`	`well i can say, i will make bounds in the future`
`06:37.02`	`Sixen`	`That sounds pretty awesome.`
`06:37.06`	`Demalii`	`for the small community that is left`
`06:37.12`	`Demalii`	`thanks man`
`06:37.19`	`Sixen`	`=)`
`06:37.22`	`Demalii`	`well can i add you to my flist?`
`06:37.31`	`Demalii`	`since I haven't talked to you in years =p`
`06:38.15`	`Sixen`	`Yeah dude`
`06:38.37`	`Sixen`	`If you're on SC2 i'm Sixen.935`
`06:38.40`	`Sixen`	`otherwise i'm Sixen on sc1 ;p`
`06:39.20`	`Demalii`	`I'll probably never show my face on sc1 again`
`06:39.24`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`06:39.31`	`Demalii`	`but what is cool, some of the better mappers are left on b.net 1`
`06:39.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Fisker (n_a@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk)`
`06:39.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Crysis time`
`06:39.55`	`Demalii`	`I'll add you right now`
`06:39.56`	`onetwo`	`less competition`
`06:40.02`	`Sixen`	`lol truth`
`06:40.29`	`Demalii`	`haha`
`06:40.32`	`Sixen`	`I still gotta go to sleep. Dema, we'll have to catch up tomorrow or whenever you're free.`
`06:40.32`	`Demalii`	`but I am here now =p`
`06:40.41`	`Demalii`	`yea man I'll cya around for sure`
`06:40.47`	`Sixen`	`Stick around Mapster, we're cool, :)`
`06:41.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Psh`
`06:41.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Mapster is lame`
`06:41.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Sixen won't ban people :*(`
`06:41.16`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`06:41.23`	`onetwo`	`woo just published Left vs right for my TD`
`06:41.27`	`onetwo`	`time to go see if it broke anything`
`06:41.28`	`Otixa`	`omg stuff sux >:\|`
`06:41.30`	`Demalii`	`lol`
`06:41.31`	`LordAbyss`	`yes he won't ban me`
`06:41.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It probably broke everything`
`06:41.34`	`LordAbyss`	`i am godlike`
`06:41.37`	`Demalii`	`legacy you are on the mapster team?`
`06:41.42`	`Sixen`	`I run the website ;)`
`06:41.45`	`Demalii`	`haha`
`06:41.53`	`Demalii`	`look at that`
`06:41.58`	`Otixa`	`He lies. vjeux runs the website`
`06:41.59`	`Demalii`	`glad I know yas ;)`
`06:42.00`	`Sixen`	`Yeah dude, I used to be a huge mapper back int he day.`
`06:42.08`	`Sixen`	`I was in (U)nKnOwN too.`
`06:42.14`	`LordAbyss`	`no he is a worthless admin`
`06:42.17`	`Demalii`	`yea good ol mp(u)`
`06:42.17`	`Sixen`	`I think that was after x2G) though.`
`06:42.19`	`LordAbyss`	`now*`
`06:42.23`	`Demalii`	`right on`
`06:42.25`	`Sixen`	`Mp was my buddy. I think he came here.`
`06:42.30`	`Demalii`	`well unfortunatly x2g) went to shit`
`06:42.32`	`Sixen`	`So did Baron(U) and Bolt_Head(U)`
`06:42.33`	`Sixen`	`Yeah :\|`
`06:42.37`	`Demalii`	`that'd be cool to hear from him`
`06:42.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So apparently if I put crysis in windowed mode with Photoshop in the background, it slows down`
`06:42.53`	`Otixa`	`ProzaicMuze, I can't imagine why :O`
`06:42.57`	`Demalii`	`lol`
`06:43.03`	`Otixa`	`wtf you doing in Photoshoop anyway? Â¬_Â¬`
`06:43.08`	`Otixa`	`gives ProzaicMuze the evil eye`
`06:43.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Nothing, which is the funny part`
`06:43.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I just left it open`
`06:43.14`	`Sixen`	`Okay, i'm heading to bed. I'll talk to you guys later.`
`06:43.26`	`Demalii`	`yea peace six`
`06:43.33`	`Sixen`	`;). /wave.`
`06:43.35`	`Sixen`	`walks away`
`06:44.15`	`Otixa`	`ProzaicMuze, do you do any modelling and/or texturing?`
`06:44.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I did in the past. I'm incredibly rusty though`
`06:44.34`	`Otixa`	`Were you any good? ;p`
`06:44.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`THe worst ;)`
`06:44.57`	`Otixa`	`Bah Â¬_Â¬`
`06:45.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I was decent at it`
`06:45.31`	`Otixa`	`Show`
`06:45.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The texturing moreso than the Modeling`
`06:45.43`	`Otixa`	`Show`
`06:45.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I don't have anything to show`
`06:46.01`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`06:46.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`My work is pre-current computer`
`06:46.05`	`Otixa`	`Well, fu then!`
`06:46.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that's fine`
`06:46.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm gonna go play Crysis in fullscreen`
`06:46.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`so that I can flex my supercomputer`
`06:46.31`	`Otixa`	`imma watch Fringe :D`
`06:46.36`	`PM\|Crysis`	`I'm buffering that right now`
`06:46.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster deathnight114 (~chatzilla@c-98-247-52-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)`
`06:46.41`	`PM\|Crysis`	`which is why I'm playing Crysis lol`
`06:46.48`	`PM\|Crysis`	`btw`
`06:46.48`	`Otixa`	`lol`
`06:46.52`	`PM\|Crysis`	`Fauxlivia is a jew`
`06:46.54`	`Otixa`	`just get it off eztv ;p`
`06:47.03`	`PM\|Crysis`	`Watch.Series is better`
`06:47.04`	`Otixa`	`YesU`
`06:47.08`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Malachi (~P_R_Dontk@c-76-20-43-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`06:47.12`	`Otixa`	`Also, I'm gonna spoil it for you`
`06:47.21`	`PM\|Crysis`	`ignored`
`06:47.22`	`PM\|Crysis`	`muahahaha`
`06:47.24`	`PM\|Crysis`	`I win`
`06:47.26`	`Otixa`	`rofl`
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`06:47.34`	`PM\|Crysis`	`Now why didn't I think of that earlier?`
`06:47.50`	`Otixa`	`pees on PM`
`06:48.08`	`Walter_Dies`	`XD`
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`06:52.53`	`LordAbyss`	`how dare`
`06:52.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`06:52.56`	`LordAbyss`	`pm ignore me`
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`07:16.59`	`Demalii`	`prozaiac, I made many more than 1 map =p`
`07:17.07`	`Demalii`	`prozaic* sorry`
`07:17.29`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Make more! Hyah!`
`07:17.58`	`Demalii`	`soon =)`
`07:18.04`	`Demalii`	`first I must learn the editor`
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`07:19.14`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Hmm.. my map still won't publish..`
`07:19.28`	`*** join/#sc2mapster vjeux (3e278b01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.39.139.1)`
`07:19.28`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o vjeux] by ChanServ`
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`07:19.32`	`vjeux`	`hey`
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`07:19.38`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`It gets all the way to the uploading screen then stops`
`07:19.42`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Hello vjeux`
`07:19.42`	`vjeux`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/8902-trigger-placing-identical-teams-made-from-lobbies/`
`07:19.46`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`vjeux`
`07:19.48`	`Otixa`	`punches vjeux`
`07:19.50`	`Otixa`	`mornin :D`
`07:19.50`	`vjeux`	`is that me or this guy has a LOT of code`
`07:19.51`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`i hear there's some trouble on EU`
`07:20.13`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`also`
`07:20.15`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`it's just you`
`07:20.34`	`vjeux`	`what's wrong with sotis in eu?`
`07:21.10`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`people say that the game mode is blank`
`07:21.18`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`and that there's a version that won't allow players to download`
`07:21.25`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`which is puzzling`
`07:21.29`	`vjeux`	`yeah this one is bugged`
`07:21.39`	`vjeux`	`but the real one is under (or at least was yesterday)`
`07:21.42`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`maybe the localization changed?`
`07:21.58`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`and the uploaded copy is kind of breaking the lobby?`
`07:22.08`	`LordAbyss`	`lolol`
`07:22.12`	`LordAbyss`	`hey otixa`
`07:22.14`	`LordAbyss`	`its vjeux`
`07:22.23`	`Otixa`	`he did it`
`07:22.27`	`LordAbyss`	`yes he did`
`07:22.27`	`onetwo`	`hi vjeux`
`07:22.28`	`vjeux`	`well you want to ask people to use the version under`
`07:22.33`	`onetwo`	`afk ingame`
`07:22.41`	`vjeux`	`because the first one is buggy :(`
`07:22.46`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`u_u`
`07:22.48`	`vjeux`	`and therefore it'll go up`
`07:22.53`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`did it all happen when you uploaded?`
`07:22.58`	`vjeux`	`no idea`
`07:22.59`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`or was it like this before 1.1`
`07:23.02`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`:\|`
`07:23.03`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`also`
`07:23.10`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`the guy you were just talking about needs to learn to use loops`
`07:23.12`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`>_>"`
`07:23.20`	`LordAbyss`	`my boss model got taken already :(`
`07:23.20`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`like`
`07:23.21`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`wow`
`07:23.25`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`he needs to learn to use loops`
`07:23.26`	`vjeux`	`ok so i'm not crazy, he just copy pastes everything :P`
`07:23.26`	`LordAbyss`	`like really!`
`07:23.46`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`well i'm glad to hear you haven't peered into my code yet`
`07:23.49`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`lol`
`07:23.55`	`vjeux`	`:P`
`07:24.01`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`btw`
`07:24.05`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`someone on singapore`
`07:24.14`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`cracked my map u_u`
`07:24.27`	`LordAbyss`	`it was me`
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`07:24.31`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`k`
`07:24.38`	`vjeux`	`well, not hard :P`
`07:24.57`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`i mean like, they decrypted the blizzard protection`
`07:25.03`	`vjeux`	`there is no protection`
`07:25.08`	`Otixa`	`lol protection`
`07:25.09`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`which, i'm assuming isn't too hard`
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`07:25.12`	`vjeux`	`they only remove the triggers.xml`
`07:25.15`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`really?`
`07:25.18`	`vjeux`	`yes`
`07:25.18`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`wow that is unfortunate`
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`07:25.30`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`lawd`
`07:25.34`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`whatever`
`07:25.42`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`it's not like my whole thing is data`
`07:26.05`	`vjeux`	`basically just take the program that extracts maps from the cache files`
`07:26.14`	`vjeux`	`open the map with the editor`
`07:26.15`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`i know`
`07:26.18`	`vjeux`	`and change the data files`
`07:26.20`	`vjeux`	`and republish :P`
`07:26.25`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`shrug`
`07:26.32`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`whatever, nobody can understand wtf i'm doing anyway`
`07:26.36`	`vjeux`	`lol :P`
`07:26.38`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`voodoo magic and witchcraft`
`07:26.45`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`sprinkles some fairy dust on his keyboard`
`07:27.01`	`LordAbyss`	`grabs the keyboard`
`07:27.22`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`takes the keyboard and throws it out nearest window`
`07:27.40`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`lunges out the window to catch his keyboard`
`07:27.56`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`plummets 45 stories then uses his keyboard to windsurf`
`07:28.07`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`is impressed`
`07:28.08`	`LordAbyss`	`takes ekco's desktop`
`07:28.12`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`FUCK`
`07:28.51`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`you thief :(`
`07:28.55`	`LordAbyss`	`:P`
`07:28.58`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`your diversion worked well`
`07:29.20`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`mmm expired coffee..`
`07:29.28`	`LordAbyss`	`proceeds to rename SotiS to Storm of the International Sanctum`
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`07:30.05`	`Otixa`	`sotits`
`07:30.16`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`you mean Stolen off the Interstate Speedway`
`07:30.27`	`LordAbyss`	`:)`
`07:30.43`	`Otixa`	`dota ripoff FTL`
`07:30.48`	`vjeux`	`sc2mapster owning the internet severly`
`07:30.53`	`Otixa`	`I mean, dota was bad enough`
`07:30.54`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`?`
`07:30.54`	`LordAbyss`	`lol`
`07:30.58`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`oh btw vjeux`
`07:31.12`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`our service provider (for the site) told us to get off their shared servers because we were pulling too much traffic`
`07:31.18`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`lawl`
`07:31.20`	`vjeux`	`owned :P`
`07:31.33`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`it's cool, we got some donations and we moved`
`07:31.37`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`:>`
`07:31.51`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`just`
`07:31.51`	`LordAbyss`	`lol`
`07:31.52`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`don't ddos us`
`07:31.53`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`:(`
`07:32.06`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`there will be blood`
`07:32.12`	`Otixa`	`gets pacifico's nigerian botnet`
`07:32.24`	`Otixa`	`brb, DDoS`
`07:32.28`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`q_q"`
`07:32.47`	`vjeux`	`ok i'm going to stop from newsing you :P`
`07:33.00`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`yes, add an affiliates link already`
`07:33.14`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`like sixen pestered us 3 weeks for`
`07:33.19`	`vjeux`	`btw dunno if you are aware of`
`07:33.25`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`?`
`07:33.26`	`vjeux`	`going to add a popularity listing on sc2mapster`
`07:33.33`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`scladder.com?`
`07:33.40`	`vjeux`	`yeah but inside sc2mapster`
`07:33.43`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`mm`
`07:33.45`	`vjeux`	`data fetched by sc2ranks.com`
`07:33.51`	`vjeux`	`linking to sc2mapster projects :P`
`07:33.53`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`is it going to have 'featured' maps`
`07:33.55`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`lawl`
`07:34.09`	`vjeux`	`we are thinking about doing featured maps`
`07:34.15`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`hahaha`
`07:34.19`	`vjeux`	`but we don't know who would chose them :P`
`07:34.29`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`that's easy`
`07:34.34`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Leave it all to me`
`07:34.40`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`put all the names in a basket`
`07:34.42`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`and pick`
`07:34.43`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I'll at least never choose SotiS`
`07:35.00`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`you won't need to ;)`
`07:35.33`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I'll just go to page 10 and play games til I find one i like`
`07:35.38`	`LordAbyss`	`i am 138,159 rank in the world`
`07:35.39`	`LordAbyss`	`lol`
`07:35.44`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`in what`
`07:35.46`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`ladder?`
`07:36.00`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`what are you in your league`
`07:36.05`	`LordAbyss`	`o wait`
`07:36.07`	`LordAbyss`	`in 4s`
`07:36.11`	`LordAbyss`	`rank 1155 in world`
`07:36.16`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`lmao`
`07:36.18`	`LordAbyss`	`which is the one i play the most`
`07:36.23`	`LordAbyss`	`668 in region`
`07:36.25`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`am i supposed to be honored`
`07:36.39`	`LordAbyss`	`?`
`07:36.51`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`o _o`
`07:36.56`	`vjeux`	`World: #280,902 in bronze`
`07:36.59`	`vjeux`	`I own you all!`
`07:37.02`	`LordAbyss`	`i am not trying to be egotistcal or anything`
`07:37.05`	`vjeux`	`in 2v2 :P`
`07:37.19`	`LordAbyss`	`diamond in 2s,3s,4s and play in 1s`
`07:37.20`	`LordAbyss`	`:P`
`07:37.27`	`LordAbyss`	`im 5-0 in 1s lol`
`07:37.35`	`LordAbyss`	`haven't played a game in like a month`
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`07:38.16`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I refuse to play ladder. Blizz killed my strat`
`07:38.20`	`LordAbyss`	`lol`
`07:38.39`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`mass roaches/`
`07:38.39`	`vjeux`	`rush worker?`
`07:38.44`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`proxy was the only good thing i had going and now they expect me to play fair?`
`07:38.53`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`oh pylon rush`
`07:38.57`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`annoyinggg`
`07:39.01`	`vjeux`	`:P`
`07:39.01`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`still`
`07:39.04`	`LordAbyss`	`overlord rush`
`07:39.06`	`LordAbyss`	`duh`
`07:39.13`	`vjeux`	`you can spawn mass creep`
`07:39.14`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`you can't beat terrans flying their command center to the nearest gold mineral expo`
`07:39.18`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`so`
`07:39.21`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`overpowered`
`07:39.39`	`vjeux`	`rush upgraded command center`
`07:39.55`	`vjeux`	`(planetary fortress?)`
`07:40.00`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`yes lol`
`07:40.03`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`damn son`
`07:40.05`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`rush sentries`
`07:40.08`	`LordAbyss`	`holy shit`
`07:40.10`	`LordAbyss`	`the rank 1 person`
`07:40.17`	`LordAbyss`	`in my 4s league is rank 16 in world`
`07:40.37`	`Fisker`	`i just found out something annoying as protoss`
`07:40.41`	`Fisker`	`if you rush nydus`
`07:40.49`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`huh`
`07:40.55`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`wat`
`07:41.04`	`Fisker`	`you can basically creep up his base and he'll have to get an observer pretty quickly if he wants to rebuild there`
`07:41.05`	`vjeux`	`leagues are useless`
`07:41.17`	`vjeux`	`they don't count for your matchmakings :P`
`07:41.20`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`oh`
`07:41.21`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`lol`
`07:41.23`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`coo`
`07:41.29`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`did you like`
`07:41.34`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`transport your queen or something`
`07:41.48`	`Fisker`	`i didn't`
`07:41.51`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`i thought creep had a range`
`07:41.56`	`Fisker`	`saw a match in the gom league where someone did that`
`07:42.06`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`that's pretty insane`
`07:42.48`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`why`
`07:42.52`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`are there so many nexus wars commentaries`
`07:43.00`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`how do you even do that`
`07:43.08`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`it boggles my mind`
`07:43.25`	`vjeux`	`link?`
`07:43.30`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`youtube it`
`07:43.45`	`Demalii`	`nexus wars has been played out in sc1 i thought..`
`07:43.49`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`No, You Tube it!`
`07:44.25`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I never heard of it til sc2`
`07:44.49`	`Demalii`	`it's like a mesh of wc3/sc1 maps`
`07:44.56`	`onetwo`	`man so annoying dealing with lobbies`
`07:45.11`	`onetwo`	`we did 2v2 in my TD left vs right, and for some reason player 4 started in player 5's area`
`07:45.23`	`onetwo`	`and i think its cause player 4 left the game,`
`07:45.26`	`onetwo`	`in the lobby`
`07:45.29`	`onetwo`	`so player 5 got moved to 4`
`07:45.35`	`onetwo`	`but the game still considered him 5?`
`07:45.36`	`onetwo`	`i dont know`
`07:45.38`	`onetwo`	`what a mess`
`07:46.00`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`2v2 on your map?`
`07:46.00`	`LordAbyss`	`ekc`
`07:46.05`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I wanna own people`
`07:46.13`	`LordAbyss`	`how much time do you spend on sotis a day?`
`07:46.24`	`onetwo`	`i added left vs right shawn`
`07:46.30`	`onetwo`	`which is fine for 6 players`
`07:46.34`	`onetwo`	`but 4 was weird`
`07:46.47`	`onetwo`	`oh well`
`07:47.26`	`LordAbyss`	`ekcolnovkol how much time do you spend on your crapptastic map of yours to make it someone fun :P`
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`08:01.04`	`harl`	`hi`
`08:01.57`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`why so mean while i'm away`
`08:01.57`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`:(`
`08:02.26`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`but yeah 12, i haven't reconfigured the lobby yet`
`08:02.42`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`i spent whole days on sotis for 4 months`
`08:02.43`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`so`
`08:02.43`	`ekcolnovkol\|zzzz`	`qq`
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`08:08.07`	`Demalii`	`Movement Speed + 2 bonus = (1 + 1 = 2), weapon attack speed + 2 bonus = (1 - .5 = .5)`
`08:08.12`	`Demalii`	`I'm confussed..`
`08:08.16`	`Demalii`	`confused*`
`08:11.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmmm`
`08:11.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`I was able to pull the rifle shot out of the ingame cinematic and remaster the audio to a decent degree`
`08:11.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`removing the background beeping and such`
`08:11.43`	`Otixa`	`I detect that Mesk has been awake for longer than 1 human sleeping cycle now`
`08:11.54`	`Otixa`	`Go to bed, nubhat!`
`08:11.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`y`
`08:12.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`I wake up at like`
`08:12.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`3pm`
`08:12.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's 1am right now`
`08:12.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`so not quite`
`08:12.24`	`Otixa`	`Hrm`
`08:12.50`	`Otixa`	`Well, I'm nearing 3 cycles`
`08:12.52`	`Otixa`	`So I'm off`
`08:12.54`	`Otixa`	`o/`
`08:12.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`gl hf`
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`08:21.19`	`Demalii`	`how is weapon speed bonus "1.5" which should by 50% faster atk speed, make 1.25 default atk speed -.42 ??`
`08:21.51`	`Demalii`	`it seems bugged, because weapon speed bonus 2, makes it -.62`
`08:22.22`	`Demalii`	`maybe it's factoring in the bonus itself?`
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`08:43.24`	`ZarafFaraz`	`sup Zanam`
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`08:46.54`	`thenk`	`woohoo, long weekend :)`
`08:47.30`	`thenk`	`I am going to publish my turf wars on NA and maybe people can help me test it then`
`08:47.50`	`thenk`	`now that we have NA access, i can play with someone who lives in another region!`
`08:48.25`	`Demalii`	`can we log into an NA region?`
`08:48.36`	`thenk`	`<A1win> any ideas how to add custom symbols on the minimap? like the eye symbols of the watch towers but without the tower (and a different icon would be nice but not necessary)`
`08:48.46`	`thenk`	`create minimap ping and set it's model to something`
`08:49.13`	`Demalii`	`If anyone has an idea about weapon atk speed bonus times, read this? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/12275-weapon-atk-spd-bonus/`
`08:51.59`	`thenk`	`Demalii, the attack speed bonus is a reversed thing`
`08:52.10`	`thenk`	`because a lower number means faster, you're just confused`
`08:52.18`	`thenk`	`i think`
`08:52.36`	`thenk`	`Using a unit with a default movement speed of 1, if I make the movement speed bonus 2.0, it will then increase the units speed to 2, previously being 1. <-- this doesn't make any sense to me because 1 speed +2 speed = 3 speed`
`08:53.43`	`thenk`	`at least thats how it works for me`
`08:54.19`	`thenk`	`unless you're talking about movement speed multiplier`
`08:54.23`	`thenk`	`in which case 1 speed * 2 = 2`
`08:54.58`	`Zanam`	`oh hey zaraffaraz`
`08:55.07`	`Zanam`	`was testing out my new system`
`08:55.20`	`Zanam`	`works decently enough on b.net despite the lag`
`08:55.33`	`ZarafFaraz`	`what new system?`
`08:56.06`	`Zanam`	`i've listened to a lot... a lot... of feedback on shape wars. people love the art style and arena generation, but the core gameplay is a rehashed concept of something thats been done a hundred times. so i'm erasing the core gameplay and making it into something new and unique`
`08:56.36`	`Zanam`	`competitive, top-down fast paced shooter, unreal tournament style.`
`08:57.16`	`Zanam`	`deathmatch, team deathmatch, capture the flag, 12 player max, mouse detection, wsad with an engine that helps hide the delay, lots of nifty stuff`
`08:58.06`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Damn Zanam.`
`08:58.10`	`Zanam`	`something that to my knowledge hasnt been done yet, i remember a wc3 map that had that kinda direction`
`08:58.29`	`Demalii`	`ahh yes`
`08:58.31`	`Zanam`	`shawn, this new project will be a re-release, the original will stay the same. and your arenas will be in both`
`08:58.37`	`Demalii`	`i edited the post, i see the replies too`
`08:58.45`	`Demalii`	`ok it makes sense now =)`
`08:59.32`	`thenk`	`Demalii, i replied to you`
`08:59.38`	`Demalii`	`i appriciate it`
`08:59.42`	`Zanam`	`i originally was just going to make a completely new normal art game with this, but i realized i would be limited to only a few levels to play in, and that would be lame.`
`08:59.44`	`Demalii`	`you made sense of it`
`08:59.48`	`thenk`	`yeah, er, looks like 3 other people beat me to it.`
`08:59.55`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`When will the new system be ready?`
`08:59.57`	`thenk`	`though i was on irc so.. :P`
`09:00.02`	`Zanam`	`you want to see it first hand shawn?`
`09:00.11`	`Zanam`	`just uploaded it to b.net for testing`
`09:00.12`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Definitely`
`09:00.22`	`Zanam`	`mind you this is EEEARLY concept stage`
`09:00.31`	`Zanam`	`like 6 horus of development total`
`09:00.37`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I know, lol. Sounds like a big projextr`
`09:00.46`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`project*`
`09:01.23`	`Zanam`	`it wont be too bad since i'm just rehashing the gameplay of a current project`
`09:01.26`	`Zanam`	`going to sc2`
`09:02.34`	`Zanam`	`zaraffaraz, the very first thing i thought of when I got this all working was 'danm this would be great for a smash tv map'... i used the 'highlight unit' mouse detection system`
`09:02.35`	`Demalii`	`hey guys, can you explain what scaled and unscaled is.. as an example, damage (scaled) and damage (unscaled)?`
`09:03.05`	`thenk`	`scales depending on the base damage of the unit you apply it to`
`09:03.07`	`thenk`	`i believe`
`09:03.41`	`thenk`	`so +1 damage on a weapon with 10 damage is +11, but on weapon with 20 damage is +22, or something like that`
`09:03.54`	`thenk`	`might even be percentage instead of value`
`09:04.05`	`Demalii`	`ok i'll have to look at that`
`09:04.06`	`Demalii`	`thanks`
`09:04.06`	`thenk`	`why not set a value and find out, hehe`
`09:04.12`	`Demalii`	`well`
`09:04.18`	`thenk`	`there are still so many untouched parts of the editor it seems`
`09:04.21`	`Demalii`	`I set to scaled 2 ranged, and it does +2`
`09:04.27`	`thenk`	`i really want to understand charge counts better`
`09:04.29`	`Demalii`	`but i just dunno what unscaled was for`
`09:04.59`	`Demalii`	`charges feel like a custom point to use on hero and such`
`09:05.16`	`Demalii`	`i've seen abilites cost "charges"`
`09:05.32`	`Demalii`	`and you would have to use 1 ability to earn more charges`
`09:05.47`	`Demalii`	`was kinda cool`
`09:07.17`	`Demalii`	`and items can cost charges`
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`09:17.34`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`That was pretty epic`
`09:20.48`	`ZarafFaraz`	`oh man Zanam, you're gonna get hit with crazy unit lag with that mouse detection system`
`09:22.37`	`Zanam`	`ask shawn`
`09:22.49`	`Zanam`	`at one point my debugger showed 4000 units spawned, no fps lag whatsoever`
`09:23.33`	`Zanam`	`it's not the total units it turns out, it's all the attacking from the little shapes in a small area.`
`09:24.17`	`vjeux`	`oh forgot to tell you`
`09:24.18`	`vjeux`	`NEWS :)`
`09:24.21`	`Zanam`	`NEWS!`
`09:25.08`	`Zanam`	`also zaraffaraz, for yours, since you are limited to a small space at any one time, you can spawn the 'detection' units in a grid in that particular zone that players are in`
`09:25.16`	`Zanam`	`when they move to the next area, move the grid`
`09:27.19`	`ZarafFaraz`	`well`
`09:27.24`	`ZarafFaraz`	`we'll see how well it works for you`
`09:27.34`	`ZarafFaraz`	`are you going to use WASD controls to move the units?`
`09:28.14`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Yes, and it works great`
`09:28.23`	`Zanam`	`i'm in debate. the current system uses it and adds in the vehicle driving physics engine i saw on the forums which helps to hide the lag, since you dont expect an immediate reaction`
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`09:28.43`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I thought it was good :p`
`09:28.45`	`Zanam`	`however, i can also do strictly mouse movement and you press a button to shoot`
`09:28.51`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Just couldn't stop`
`09:29.29`	`Zanam`	`i think i like the wsad movement better, with the physics engine you get used to the delay really fast.`
`09:29.33`	`Zanam`	`but we'll see`
`09:29.56`	`thenk`	`playing wasd maps on NA is impossible for me`
`09:29.58`	`thenk`	`way too much lag`
`09:30.14`	`Zanam`	`my very first map was an arcade shooter and i felt the same way`
`09:30.16`	`ZarafFaraz`	`any map with WASD controls just goes downhill`
`09:30.18`	`thenk`	`question - do i have to buy another copy of SC2 to publish on NA?`
`09:30.25`	`ZarafFaraz`	`especially on the popularity rankings`
`09:30.35`	`ZarafFaraz`	`remember Crush Company? Yeah, exactly.`
`09:30.53`	`thenk`	`that was really dumb map`
`09:30.54`	`ZarafFaraz`	`and wtf happened to Blizzard's spotlight maps?`
`09:31.03`	`thenk`	`the idea isn't bad but it just didn't work`
`09:31.37`	`Zanam`	`zaraf, when i get a few more days to work out the basic gameplay, as in proper respawning and such, i'll have you check it out and give me your thoughts. wsad vs mouse`
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`09:35.02`	`thenk`	`how can i increase the range at which my units auto attack`
`09:35.08`	`thenk`	`minimum scan range goes up, right?`
`09:35.19`	`thenk`	`on the weapon`
`09:40.11`	`Demonette`	`Something is wrong... i can now model the hair a fourth time...`
`09:42.11`	`Halohalo`	`When will find out who are the winners of the contest?`
`09:42.18`	`Halohalo`	`When will we*`
`09:48.25`	`Clord`	`I guess it is time to make boss fight harder map... support for more than one player`
`09:48.33`	`Clord`	`boss arena I mean`
`09:48.34`	`Clord`	`XD`
`09:49.25`	`Halohalo`	`Q. (Bibendus) - Are you going to fix the keyboard/mouse control lag? 90% of custom games are ruined by this. A. We will be improving keyboard and mouse control in a future patch, but we can't match the responsiveness of an FPS game with an authoritative server. Keyboard-based unit movement should be as responsive as issuing move orders with the mouse after these changes.`
`09:49.41`	`Halohalo`	`http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/627976600`
`09:49.47`	`Halohalo`	`WASD is the way to go.`
`09:50.09`	`Clord`	`or meh... solo is good`
`09:50.12`	`Clord`	`personal skill and all`
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`09:57.33`	`Demalii`	`niiiiiice`
`09:57.47`	`Demalii`	`nice info Halohalo`
`09:58.19`	`Demalii`	`cya later guys`
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`10:07.50`	`Skizot`	`so, who is gonna be my new "go to" bitch when i have issues with my map?`
`10:08.04`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Yourself?`
`10:08.35`	`Skizot`	`shush.`
`10:08.48`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`You can ask me, but I'm pretty dumb most times. :D`
`10:09.05`	`Skizot`	`well my map WORKED at the end of beta.`
`10:09.11`	`Skizot`	`not i get some crazy errors.`
`10:09.16`	`Skizot`	`the art shit i can fix.`
`10:09.46`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`What's the error?`
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`10:10.11`	`Skizot`	`lemme run the map and i'll get it for ya.`
`10:10.25`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Do you have the debugger open?`
`10:10.57`	`Skizot`	`no?`
`10:11.17`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/11659-trigger-debugging-how-to-open-and-use-the-trigger-debugger/`
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`10:13.24`	`Skizot`	`wow 5 minute load times rock!`
`10:13.33`	`Araxnid`	`how to change beam color?`
`10:13.53`	`Skizot`	`there's a switch on the side of the gun that changes color.`
`10:14.21`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Araxnid, you have to do go to the actor and on actor creation, do a Set Tint Color`
`10:14.28`	`Araxnid`	`thanks`
`10:14.35`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`should be in the actors events+ thing`
`10:16.22`	`Skizot`	`Trigger Error in 'gt_Init1PGame_Func': Calling 'UIShowCustomDialog' is not authorized`
`10:17.14`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Huh, that's a new one. Perhaps you're using a trigger that is no longer in the editor?`
`10:17.26`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Idk, but you gotta fix something in that trigger`
`10:18.01`	`Skizot`	`Trigger Error in 'gt_Hydralisk_Func': Could not create actor: Name[TriggerModel] Content1[AcidSporesWeapon] Content2[]`
`10:18.08`	`Skizot`	`gotta save that one for art fix.`
`10:18.45`	`Araxnid`	`yeah, just find it in events, thanks`
`10:19.20`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Well, at least I helped 1/2`
`10:19.33`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`50% isn't so bad`
`10:20.37`	`Zanam`	`shawn... that was harder than i thought. but you can stop now :P kept wanting to stop on a dime and not use physics`
`10:21.26`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Oh haha, I thought you literally meant I could stop doing something.. You mean the game`
`10:21.32`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Very nice`
`10:21.51`	`Zanam`	`i wanted sleep but... too excited for this project. on to respawns!`
`10:22.28`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Which reminds me Zanam, have you played UT3 yet?`
`10:22.41`	`Zanam`	`i have not, last unreal i played was ut 2003`
`10:22.56`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Well in UT3, they have this weird idea that everything must make sense`
`10:23.03`	`Zanam`	`had massive lan parties at the tech school i went to`
`10:23.19`	`Zanam`	`what do you mean`
`10:23.35`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Like FLaGs = Field Latus Generator and this FLaG supposedly powers the respawner and that is why you have to steal it`
`10:24.01`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`And in Deathmatch, you simply have to keep killing until the respawner is out of charges`
`10:24.17`	`Zanam`	`eww`
`10:24.17`	`ZarafFaraz`	`hey Zanam, can you send me a PM please`
`10:24.22`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`No`
`10:24.25`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`O.o`
`10:24.31`	`Zanam`	`why must things make sense`
`10:24.36`	`Zanam`	`thats what games are for, to not make sense`
`10:24.47`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Exactly! I liked my ctf when it made no sense at all!`
`10:24.52`	`Zanam`	`sent you one zaraffaraz but they enver seem to work`
`10:24.54`	`Skizot`	`Trigger Error in 'gt_Hydralisk_Func': Could not create actor: Name[TriggerModel] Content1[AcidSporesWeapon] Content2[]`
`10:24.56`	`Skizot`	`Trigger Error in 'gt_Hydralisk_Func': Could not create actor: Name[TriggerModel] Content1[AcidSporesWeapon] Content2[]`
`10:25.02`	`Skizot`	`oops`
`10:25.06`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Zanam, you got MSN, AIM or something like that?`
`10:25.10`	`Skizot`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:25.10`	`Zanam`	`yahoo, zanam00`
`10:25.14`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I have AIM`
`10:25.15`	`Skizot`	`that HAS to be the one.`
`10:25.21`	`ZarafFaraz`	`what's your AIM Shawn?`
`10:25.25`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I'm ZarafFaraz on AIM`
`10:25.27`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Shawn91210x`
`10:25.33`	`Zanam`	`i use trillian actually so it doesnt matter`
`10:25.50`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I use Meebo`
`10:25.59`	`ZarafFaraz`	`you on Yahoo right now Zanam? I don't see you online`
`10:26.02`	`ZarafFaraz`	`send me a message`
`10:26.09`	`ZarafFaraz`	`fqureshi_ualberta@yahoo.com`
`10:27.04`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I don't know why I need you as a buddy on aim, but right now I just do`
`10:27.19`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I'll figure it out eventually`
`10:28.15`	`Zanam`	`i'm a good reference when bugs randomly decide to appear in maps :P`
`10:30.41`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Well, I can't get my map to publish`
`10:30.44`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Is that a bug?`
`10:31.03`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Gets to the uploading screen and sits at 0%`
`10:32.32`	`Zanam`	`that i can't help you on haha`
`10:32.39`	`Zanam`	`check your network and firewall settings maybe?`
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`10:34.57`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`No, other maps upload fine`
`10:35.02`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Just this one`
`10:35.05`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Not working`
`10:35.29`	`Clord`	`at least before 1.1 common cause was that in player settings.... race was set instead random`
`10:35.41`	`Clord`	`it caused publishing to fail`
`10:36.41`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`All my races are set to any`
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`10:39.53`	`Skizot`	`holy crap.`
`10:39.58`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`?`
`10:40.07`	`Skizot`	`my map lol`
`10:40.13`	`Skizot`	`it's a PC killer.`
`10:40.21`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`>.>`
`10:40.34`	`Skizot`	`have you seen the old video of it?`
`10:40.41`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Which map is it?`
`10:41.31`	`Skizot`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-OjwZcrjCQ`
`10:43.29`	`Skizot`	`that's old as sin.`
`10:43.53`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Commander Sheppard?`
`10:44.18`	`Skizot`	`?`
`10:44.21`	`Skizot`	`lol`
`10:45.11`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`This was in beta?`
`10:45.18`	`Skizot`	`yeah`
`10:45.40`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I wish I was doing maps back then.. maybe I could make something as good as this`
`10:46.01`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`heck, i've never made a decent map ever`
`10:46.29`	`Skizot`	`it actuallly been made BETTER since that video`
`10:47.07`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I could see how this could kill a PC`
`10:47.11`	`Skizot`	`there's another boss after then end, and then it goes third person over the shoulder.`
`10:47.26`	`Skizot`	`you fight through a tunnel then fight a boss in top down mode.`
`10:47.48`	`currydevil`	`so, what was the deal with the platforms on the first boss?`
`10:47.55`	`Skizot`	`there is SUPPOSED to be a new level after that...`
`10:47.55`	`currydevil`	`couldn't jump on them?`
`10:48.03`	`Skizot`	`you can, i just didn't.`
`10:48.05`	`Skizot`	`:/`
`10:48.10`	`currydevil`	`easy though it seemed ;)`
`10:48.13`	`Skizot`	`thought that just after i made it...`
`10:48.21`	`currydevil`	`i suppose it would be harder if you didn't stand under the one platform`
`10:48.23`	`Skizot`	`"why the hell didn't i show off the platforms?!`
`10:48.27`	`currydevil`	`lol`
`10:49.11`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`you think 1125 buildings is too much?`
`10:49.38`	`currydevil`	`really sweet looking though, one of these days i'll play with the projectiles and learn how to make em like that`
`10:49.52`	`currydevil`	`be able to shoot in random directions`
`10:50.43`	`Skizot`	`i have different guns now too.`
`10:51.08`	`Skizot`	`default gubm a basic gun.`
`10:51.16`	`Skizot`	`acid gun, shoots acid spores`
`10:51.28`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`baneling gun, shoots baneling`
`10:51.30`	`Skizot`	`nuke launcher, room clearer.`
`10:51.43`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`dark templar gun`
`10:51.47`	`Skizot`	`laser gun, I R WARITH`
`10:52.03`	`Skizot`	`and my personal favorite... the flamethrower`
`10:52.32`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I wish this stupid uploader would just time out and tell me why it's not uploading`
`10:53.26`	`Skizot`	`i even have a working "item blimp" system`
`10:53.35`	`Skizot`	`drops all guns and health and sheilds.`
`10:53.45`	`Skizot`	`it's easily moddable too.`
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`10:56.21`	`Clord`	`lol starship troopers movie version...... let's throw these nuke grenades without protection!`
`10:56.21`	`Clord`	`XD`
`10:56.24`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Tinman! Tell me why my map won't publish :P`
`10:56.42`	`Clord`	`nuke launcher inspired comment`
`10:57.01`	`Clord`	`both cases... some protection would be important`
`10:57.09`	`Tinman`	`Shawn\|rawr: I have no idea, I just fuck about thinking I know what I am doing all the time`
`10:57.15`	`Skizot`	`that's basically what my nukelauncher is lol.`
`10:57.32`	`Tinman`	`I am also shit lucky and my fucking about usually works :p`
`10:57.32`	`Skizot`	`it turns whatever side of the screen you are looking at into nothing but explosions.`
`10:57.47`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Lol. I guess so, I'm just kinda bummed out now :S`
`10:58.09`	`Clord`	`I made fifth boss for "Boss Arena" map.. Overmind`
`10:58.10`	`Tinman`	`Do you get a error or something?`
`10:58.27`	`Clord`	`it is just overmind and it spawns ten tendrils... those tendrils spawn banelings randomly`
`10:58.28`	`Clord`	`XD`
`10:58.33`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`No, it gets to the upload screen and sits at 0`
`10:59.02`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`And i've tried 2 diff comps and successfully uploaded a diff map`
`10:59.08`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`and i'm so screwed`
`10:59.11`	`Tinman`	`that used to happen with my one map also... but it sort of fixed itself`
`10:59.21`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`What do you mean?`
`10:59.42`	`Clord`	`he means just that.. no idea why it fixes itself.. sometimes it just happens XD`
`10:59.53`	`Tinman`	`Well I said screw testing and continue working, and then the next time I tried to upload it it started`
`10:59.56`	`Clord`	`SCII's editor is mysterious`
`11:00.08`	`Clord`	`when it comes to those problems`
`11:00.27`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Well, the problem is I don't really have anything else to work on.. I'm trying to post it so me and a friend can test`
`11:01.01`	`Clord`	`maybe close entire editor and load map again... then save... it might magically fix itself`
`11:01.12`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I've been trying that all day`
`11:01.14`	`Clord`	`sometimes there comes error messages how it removes not needed stuff when map is loaded`
`11:01.42`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`It worked fine before 1.1`
`11:01.49`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`So i'm blaming that for now`
`11:02.27`	`Clord`	`lol this is silly but you have made game variants right?`
`11:02.28`	`Clord`	`XD`
`11:02.44`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`cough cough lolwut?`
`11:02.54`	`Demonette`	`Mmmmhh`
`11:03.17`	`Demonette`	`how many polygons does an usually hero unit have in SC2?`
`11:03.21`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`"Did you plug the computer in?"`
`11:03.25`	`Clord`	`aka of course you realized to do game variants before publishing?`
`11:03.25`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`"Uhhhh......"`
`11:03.27`	`Clord`	`^^`
`11:03.28`	`Clord`	`hehe`
`11:03.30`	`Clord`	`yeah`
`11:03.56`	`Demonette`	`I guess 5000 are maybe to many?`
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`11:04.01`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Then why did it work before?`
`11:04.22`	`currydevil`	`stupid cat... playing by the back of my comp and falling on stuff making it reboot.`
`11:04.38`	`Clord`	`technical supports must have fun when people not realize to turn damn UAC off when their computer is not in public location`
`11:04.57`	`Demonette`	`Haha XD reboot citten XD`
`11:05.23`	`currydevil`	`he'll be lucky if i remembered to save my map earlier`
`11:05.31`	`Clord`	`how your computer reboot so easily? XD`
`11:05.49`	`currydevil`	`i think he fell on the power strip button`
`11:06.03`	`currydevil`	`either that or a full body fall on my power cord plugging into the outlet`
`11:06.31`	`currydevil`	`now he won't stop messing around, it's starting to piss me off xD`
`11:08.54`	`currydevil`	`he keeps jumping on the top of the comp and blocking the fan, or clawing at my mouse hand from behind the keyboard shelf`
`11:10.00`	`Demonette`	`lol`
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`11:11.11`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`OMG CLORD I LOVE YOU`
`11:11.20`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`:D`
`11:11.35`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I feel like a retard, but it's working`
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`11:13.50`	`Tinman`	`Are you telling me that you skipped the 1st steps in fixing any computer related issues, turn it off and on again... sigh`
`11:14.43`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`No, I didn't set the game variant because i didnt know how`
`11:14.53`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Nor did i know that i needed to do it`
`11:15.48`	`Tinman`	`That might be what fixed my issue also, as I said, I continued to work on it`
`11:16.31`	`Clord`	`Shawn.... are you serious?`
`11:16.33`	`Clord`	`XD`
`11:16.44`	`Clord`	`I was joking that it would be your problem as it is like basics`
`11:16.47`	`Clord`	`to set game variants :)`
`11:17.02`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Well, as I told someone earlier, I've never made a decent map before`
`11:17.08`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`So this is all new to me`
`11:17.30`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`For some reason I love the Sc2 editor way more than the wc3 editor`
`11:17.36`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`call me crazy`
`11:18.00`	`Tinman`	`I loved the advanced SC BW editor, easy and powerful`
`11:18.00`	`Clord`	`hehe yeah.. game variants is basically vital cause they make lobby system`
`11:18.06`	`Clord`	`for map`
`11:18.57`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I was gonna figure the lobby out at the end`
`11:19.08`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Cuz it seemed so difficult for everyone`
`11:19.55`	`Clord`	`actually it is rather simple`
`11:19.57`	`Clord`	`but yeah`
`11:19.58`	`Skizot`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/contraguy.png`
`11:20.21`	`Clord`	`what is that fatso?`
`11:20.22`	`Clord`	`XD`
`11:20.28`	`Clord`	`or rather who`
`11:20.50`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`The guy from contra, obviuosly`
`11:22.40`	`Clord`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra_%28series%29`
`11:22.41`	`Clord`	`I see`
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`11:38.46`	`Phaos`	`BURP`
`11:38.47`	`Phaos`	`omg`
`11:38.51`	`Phaos`	`blizzards answers`
`11:39.01`	`Phaos`	`they did fix item drop, it's just not in the patch notes`
`11:39.03`	`Phaos`	`hurrah!`
`11:40.19`	`Skizot`	`DIE FOOLISH MORTAL`
`11:40.20`	`Skizot`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/minecraft/carrierview.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/minecraft/carriercart.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/minecraft/mtmobmore.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/minecraft/secret.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/minecraft/at2.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/minecraft/colly.jpg`
`11:40.34`	`Skizot`	`i have squashed you in my minecraftian link bombing.`
`11:42.07`	`Phaos`	`oomg minecraft :D`
`11:42.12`	`Phaos`	`<3 skizot`
`11:42.38`	`Phaos`	`that aircraft carrier is amazing`
`11:42.58`	`Phaos`	`is it built in SMP ?`
`11:48.20`	`Skizot`	`yup`
`11:49.25`	`ZarafFaraz`	`what is SMP?`
`11:51.01`	`Skizot`	`survival multiplayer`
`11:53.04`	`ZarafFaraz`	`ahh`
`11:53.05`	`ZarafFaraz`	`We will be improving keyboard and mouse control in a future patch, but we can't match the responsiveness of an FPS game with an authoritative server. Keyboard-based unit movement should be as responsive as issuing move orders with the mouse after these changes.`
`11:53.29`	`ZarafFaraz`	`well, we'll never have FPS quality WASD movement, but that will certainly be an improvement`
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`12:04.02`	`Demonette`	`Does someone here now how to make good UV maps?`
`12:04.08`	`Demonette`	`know...`
`12:05.18`	`Xaragoth`	`yes`
`12:05.25`	`Demonette`	`Fine`
`12:05.26`	`Xaragoth`	`otixa, phaos, I currently`
`12:05.29`	`Xaragoth`	`as far as I know`
`12:05.31`	`Xaragoth`	`but otixa is away`
`12:05.36`	`Xaragoth`	`phaos lost to minecraft`
`12:05.39`	`Xaragoth`	`and I have breakfast`
`12:05.40`	`Xaragoth`	`:p`
`12:05.51`	`Demonette`	`and Otixa afk`
`12:05.54`	`Demonette`	`so no one left?`
`12:06.04`	`Xaragoth`	`uhm`
`12:06.05`	`Xaragoth`	`lemme see`
`12:06.18`	`Xaragoth`	`IskatuMesk`
`12:06.41`	`Demonette`	`Cause i still have a little problems with Hanson shoulder mutation`
`12:06.55`	`Phaos`	`minecraft`
`12:06.57`	`Phaos`	`where`
`12:06.58`	`Phaos`	`what`
`12:07.00`	`Phaos`	`arg`
`12:07.14`	`Demonette`	`Lol`
`12:07.15`	`Demonette`	`XD`
`12:08.16`	`Demonette`	`I think i got the rest to unwrap nice...`
`12:08.33`	`Demonette`	`But the many thorns at here shoulder makes me sad...`
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`12:09.59`	`Demonette`	`when this is done i can start texturing :3`
`12:10.08`	`Demonette`	`and then maybe animating XD`
`12:11.16`	`Xaragoth`	`doing the SM stuff, eh?`
`12:12.56`	`ZarafFaraz`	`anyone know if it's possible to make a model translucent?`
`12:13.03`	`ZarafFaraz`	`without creating a custom model?`
`12:13.07`	`Skizot`	`whoa sweer.`
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`12:13.12`	`Skizot`	`sweet*`
`12:13.22`	`Skizot`	`noone remembers that i do models :D`
`12:13.31`	`Xaragoth`	`hrm`
`12:13.44`	`Xaragoth`	`maybe they kept transparency inside the trigger editor`
`12:14.01`	`Xaragoth`	`if yes, its probably somewhere around color or animation Ôo`
`12:14.07`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Skizot, you make custom models?`
`12:14.10`	`Xaragoth`	`at least wc3 had it`
`12:14.15`	`ElemenoSC`	`is there anyway in triggers to convert unittype to the unit ID (trying to change a value with catalogs)`
`12:14.58`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Skizot, have you made custom models for SC2?`
`12:17.13`	`Skizot`	`uhhh.. no?`
`12:17.15`	`Skizot`	`never.`
`12:17.17`	`Skizot`	`nope`
`12:17.20`	`Skizot`	`not at all.`
`12:17.26`	`ZarafFaraz`	`<Skizot> noone remembers that i do models :D`
`12:17.31`	`ZarafFaraz`	`just thought you did models for SC2`
`12:17.59`	`ZarafFaraz`	`unless you were being sarcastic just now?`
`12:18.00`	`Skizot`	`nope. no sir. never. i did NOT make the first team colored model for sc2.`
`12:18.04`	`Phaos`	`your mom does models`
`12:18.11`	`ZarafFaraz`	`lol`
`12:18.22`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Skizot, you got AIM, MSN or anything like that?`
`12:18.27`	`Xaragoth`	`actually, doing models would be kinda good oo`
`12:18.35`	`Xaragoth`	`very tasty bodys!`
`12:19.09`	`Skizot`	`i do and no you can't have it.`
`12:19.25`	`ZarafFaraz`	`how about sending me a message then`
`12:19.27`	`Skizot`	`i have enough random people bugging me as is.`
`12:19.28`	`Skizot`	`:P`
`12:19.29`	`ZarafFaraz`	`on AIM I'm ZarafFaraz`
`12:19.43`	`ZarafFaraz`	`although it's sad you would count me as random :(`
`12:20.07`	`ZarafFaraz`	`lol`
`12:20.31`	`Phaos`	`OH HOLY SHIT GUYS`
`12:20.34`	`Phaos`	`I just remembered`
`12:20.51`	`Phaos`	`I'm on NA servers now thanks to the SEA NA joinup`
`12:20.57`	`Phaos`	`Rorax.819`
`12:21.34`	`Phaos`	`well. that is to say I can play with most of you :P`
`12:23.04`	`Skizot`	`STRANGER DANGER STRANGER DANGER STRANGER DANGER STRANGER DANGER`
`12:23.18`	`Phaos`	`I am not a pedo D:`
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`12:26.14`	`tordy`	`hi otixa`
`12:26.47`	`Phaos`	`otixa is being silent`
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`12:28.54`	`Demonette`	`Yey i think Otixa is absent...`
`12:29.21`	`vjeux`	`http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/7/557/popularity.png`
`12:29.35`	`vjeux`	`popularity listing is starting to be become!`
`12:29.52`	`vjeux`	`(Note: it'll only be non-blizz maps)`
`12:29.54`	`Skizot`	`sweet shit vjeux`
`12:30.06`	`Skizot`	`that is awesome`
`12:30.53`	`vjeux`	`going to add the top 10 (or 15) with mapster projects on the main page`
`12:30.59`	`vjeux`	`so people will be able to easily drop comments :)`
`12:31.13`	`Skizot`	`i've started working on terran conflict again.`
`12:31.17`	`vjeux`	`nice`
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`12:31.31`	`Skizot`	`slowly so i don't bury myself again.`
`12:31.36`	`vjeux`	`did you fix the bug where we got stuck?`
`12:31.42`	`Skizot`	`well i DID.`
`12:31.49`	`vjeux`	`great`
`12:31.50`	`Skizot`	`but i think i lost that copy.`
`12:31.52`	`vjeux`	`it was fucking lame`
`12:31.54`	`vjeux`	`:(`
`12:32.04`	`Skizot`	`with the whole "install retail and wipe your beta maps" bug`
`12:32.24`	`vjeux`	`oh fuck :^(`
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`12:32.32`	`Skizot`	`but i do have a copy a few saves back.`
`12:32.42`	`Skizot`	`i'll hgave to check if i fixed that.`
`12:33.04`	`Skizot`	`triceron is making a player model for it.`
`12:33.20`	`Skizot`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/NESGameguy.png`
`12:34.50`	`tordy`	`woah vjeux what happened`
`12:35.20`	`vjeux`	`what happened to what?`
`12:35.40`	`vjeux`	`tordy:`
`12:35.44`	`tordy`	`what`
`12:36.00`	`Clord`	`http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/7/557/popularity.png hmmmmmm`
`12:36.09`	`Clord`	`I guess scladder.com is abandoned`
`12:36.18`	`vjeux`	`yes it is`
`12:36.26`	`vjeux`	`replaced by sc2ranks :)`
`12:36.30`	`tordy`	`wait what`
`12:36.33`	`tordy`	`where is that from`
`12:36.39`	`tordy`	`sc2ranks has a popularity listing now?`
`12:36.47`	`vjeux`	`http://sc2ranks.com/map/all`
`12:36.50`	`vjeux`	`yup`
`12:37.06`	`tordy`	`how are they doing it?`
`12:37.12`	`vjeux`	`same i did with scladder`
`12:37.21`	`vjeux`	`parsing bnet last 25 games`
`12:37.33`	`tordy`	`did they steal your code`
`12:37.46`	`vjeux`	`no`
`12:37.48`	`vjeux`	`i asked him to do it :P`
`12:37.51`	`tordy`	`oh :(`
`12:38.08`	`vjeux`	`i don't have the infrastructure to do it at a large scale`
`12:38.20`	`tordy`	`but theirs is total right`
`12:38.28`	`tordy`	`it doesnt like reset`
`12:38.32`	`tordy`	`because 150k is a huge number`
`12:38.34`	`vjeux`	`yeah it doesn't`
`12:38.39`	`vjeux`	`but mine does :P`
`12:38.52`	`vjeux`	`it'll be exactly the same as scladder on mapster`
`12:38.53`	`tordy`	`yea that's a problem`
`12:39.02`	`vjeux`	`take the last 48 hours stats`
`12:39.12`	`tordy`	`since something like nexus wars will build up popularity so much that nothing will ever overtake it`
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`12:40.41`	`tordy`	`wait there's only 2 custom maps listed`
`12:40.43`	`vjeux`	`basically when i parse 2000 games for nexus wars on one region in one day, he parses 5000 and does it for all the regions`
`12:40.56`	`vjeux`	`i'll strip out the blizz maps too don't worry :)`
`12:41.04`	`vjeux`	`it'll be exactly the same output as scladder`
`12:41.06`	`tordy`	`o nvm`
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`12:41.23`	`vjeux`	`but sc2ranks doing the parsing :p`
`12:41.40`	`vjeux`	`this way everyone is happy :p`
`12:42.10`	`tordy`	`well at least they show last day / last week stuff`
`12:42.11`	`tordy`	`http://sc2ranks.com/map/167/nexus-wars`
`12:42.26`	`tordy`	`so that's good`
`12:43.18`	`vjeux`	`i'll be able to do it too :P`
`12:43.34`	`tordy`	`:]`
`12:44.14`	`tordy`	`I wonder Korean Custom game this is:`
`12:44.14`	`tordy`	`http://sc2ranks.com/map/175`
`12:44.21`	`tordy`	`it's 50k plays`
`12:44.32`	`tordy`	`dont tell me korean version of nexus wars`
`12:45.55`	`vjeux`	`http://ksodien.egloos.com/5327595`
`12:46.39`	`vjeux`	`Temple Crush`
`12:46.41`	`vjeux`	`the ranslation`
`12:46.46`	`tordy`	`o.o`
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`12:47.19`	`tordy`	`have you played it?`
`12:47.25`	`tordy`	`or know the gameplay of it?`
`12:47.33`	`vjeux`	`no`
`12:47.45`	`vjeux`	`i don't read korean at all :(`
`12:48.08`	`tordy`	`it looks like another tug map`
`12:48.12`	`tordy`	`what do you think`
`12:48.28`	`tordy`	`3v3 tug map`
`12:48.38`	`vjeux`	`yup`
`12:51.28`	`tordy`	`cool as a cucumber`
`12:51.59`	`Clord`	`lengwhise`
`12:52.04`	`Clord`	`lengtwise`
`12:52.08`	`Clord`	`damn ^^`
`12:52.21`	`tordy`	`hi clord`
`12:52.30`	`Clord`	`if you have not played sam and max season 2's episode 2 you will not get it... =)`
`12:52.31`	`Clord`	`hi`
`12:52.38`	`Clord`	`I mean`
`12:52.41`	`tordy`	`dropbox is the greatest thing ever`
`12:52.41`	`Clord`	`season 3`
`12:52.41`	`Clord`	`XD`
`12:52.42`	`tordy`	`holy moly`
`12:52.43`	`tordy`	`i love this thing`
`12:52.54`	`Clord`	`lol`
`12:52.59`	`Clord`	`drop box.... aah such great invention`
`12:53.02`	`tordy`	`you think it's worth the upgrade?`
`12:53.08`	`tordy`	`2GB is clearly not enough`
`12:54.16`	`Clord`	`lol I thought different kind of drop box`
`12:54.17`	`Clord`	`XD`
`12:54.27`	`tordy`	`:[`
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`12:55.10`	`Clord`	`this makes no sense`
`12:55.11`	`Clord`	`# 2GB of online storage for free, with up to 100GB available to paying customers.`
`12:55.11`	`Clord`	`# Sync files of any size or type.`
`12:55.14`	`Clord`	`that second one`
`12:55.22`	`Clord`	`what if I have 150GB rar`
`12:55.24`	`Clord`	`XD`
`12:55.32`	`Skizot`	`quit pirating.`
`12:55.37`	`SycoPrime`	`Then you buy two accounts and break the file up.`
`12:55.46`	`Clord`	`hehe`
`12:55.48`	`Clord`	`of course`
`12:55.50`	`Clord`	`easy solution is`
`12:55.55`	`Clord`	`split it to two rar packs`
`12:55.57`	`Clord`	`:)`
`12:56.01`	`SycoPrime`	`Don't put a 150GB rar online?`
`12:56.15`	`Clord`	`I have no use for such service`
`12:56.18`	`Clord`	`lol`
`12:56.25`	`tordy`	`it's nice for small files`
`12:56.27`	`tordy`	`like maps`
`12:56.30`	`tordy`	`:]`
`12:56.36`	`tordy`	`i got multiple computers that use the editor`
`12:56.39`	`tordy`	`and it's super convenient`
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`12:56.59`	`Clord`	`my website has way more waste space than 2GB so I put backuping there`
`12:57.03`	`tordy`	`fuckin banshees`
`12:57.58`	`Clord`	`that reminds me... no wonder empty DVD etc sells so well ;)`
`12:58.04`	`tordy`	`wha`
`12:58.42`	`Clord`	`[15:55:22] <Skizot> quit pirating.`
`12:59.02`	`madsquare`	`mhh can you directly download the files uploaded tehre without password, if you set permission?`
`12:59.07`	`madsquare`	`2GB webspace isnt bad`
`12:59.13`	`SycoPrime`	`Yes`
`12:59.30`	`tordy`	`freakin banshees`
`13:01.01`	`tordy`	`god damn`
`13:01.02`	`tordy`	`banshees`
`13:01.44`	`Clord`	`punchees?`
`13:13.35`	`SycoPrime`	`wonders why the channel is so dead.`
`13:19.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`boatse`
`13:19.25`	`currydevil`	`Grr, los blockers don`
`13:19.28`	`currydevil`	`don'`
`13:19.36`	`currydevil`	`damn enter button is too close to my '`
`13:19.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's 6am no one is awake at this ludicrous hour`
`13:19.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`go back to bed`
`13:19.54`	`currydevil`	`los blockers don't work when the unit is on the "high ground" :(`
`13:19.59`	`currydevil`	`sure they are.`
`13:20.02`	`currydevil`	`you are.`
`13:20.05`	`currydevil`	`=P`
`13:20.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`no I'm not`
`13:20.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`I am not even conscious`
`13:20.46`	`currydevil`	`are you green skinned with pointy ears?`
`13:20.57`	`Skizot`	`http://i54.tinypic.com/ff6dyd.jpg`
`13:20.57`	`currydevil`	`because I believe only Yoda has that power =O`
`13:21.35`	`currydevil`	`oh that's a good one.`
`13:21.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`maybe`
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`13:22.36`	`SycoPrime`	`Skizot: That picture is awesome.`
`13:23.44`	`currydevil`	`i'm disappointed that a single cliff level overrides sight blockers on terrain (one cliff level lower) that is actually higher than the cliff level :(`
`13:25.49`	`tordy`	`DEFNSIVE NUKES`
`13:25.52`	`tordy`	`OH My OD`
`13:26.35`	`tordy`	`what do you see here`
`13:26.35`	`tordy`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11741388/Costa%20Rican%20Frog.jpg`
`13:27.30`	`Jygga`	`currydevil make some more floating on cliff level above those on the ground ;)`
`13:28.40`	`currydevil`	`i suppose i could do that, raise it up and move it over`
`13:28.59`	`currydevil`	`but .. oh boy that's going to be fun. I need about 100 of them xD`
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`13:32.00`	`tordy`	`TEE EL OH`
`13:32.05`	`tordy`	`EPIC COMEBACK`
`13:35.18`	`currydevil`	`Don't think it's going to work`
`13:36.17`	`currydevil`	`What i'm doing is making a raised pathway through some hills (with the cliff level for the path) and i'm using the terrain raise tool right next to the higher cliff level`
`13:36.18`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mirvra (50d86b01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.216.107.1)`
`13:36.20`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Daeden (~a@94-195-209-10.zone9.bethere.co.uk)`
`13:36.37`	`Mirvra`	`g'morning`
`13:36.54`	`currydevil`	`so even though the raised terrain is higher than the cliff level.. it's still technically lower when it comes to applying LOS :(`
`13:38.36`	`Mirvra`	`anyone fun online atm?`
`13:38.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`no`
`13:39.04`	`Mirvra`	`aw`
`13:39.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`brb setting fires`
`13:39.37`	`Mirvra`	`kk`
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`13:40.03`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`rawr`
`13:40.09`	`Mirvra`	`rawr`
`13:40.11`	`Mirvra`	`?`
`13:40.25`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Yes, my internet died hours ago and i'm finally back!`
`13:40.30`	`Mirvra`	`aah`
`13:40.37`	`Mirvra`	`wb o.o`
`13:40.42`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Thank you O.O`
`13:41.20`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Someone once told me there are no girls on teh interwebs`
`13:41.23`	`Mirvra`	`hums a pirate song`
`13:41.40`	`Mirvra`	`someone told me that too o.o`
`13:41.49`	`Mirvra`	`well actually... EVERY guy told me that -.-`
`13:41.54`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Is it true?! O.O`
`13:42.03`	`Mirvra`	`um.. no?`
`13:42.07`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`ok ;D`
`13:42.14`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`i mean.. O.O`
`13:42.16`	`currydevil`	`i hope my wife doesn't find out.. that's how I met her =O`
`13:42.29`	`Mirvra`	`hah?`
`13:42.32`	`Mirvra`	`oh wait..`
`13:42.38`	`Mirvra`	`that's two diffrent ppl speaking xD`
`13:42.43`	`currydevil`	`it is!`
`13:42.51`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`True that homie!`
`13:43.01`	`Mirvra`	`wth are you two talking about? O.o`
`13:43.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`wut`
`13:43.14`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Most times, I have no idea`
`13:43.34`	`Mirvra`	`i realised o.o`
`13:43.42`	`currydevil`	`lol`
`13:43.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`go go gadget utub upload`
`13:43.58`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`utub?`
`13:44.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`youtub`
`13:44.04`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`did they shorten their name?`
`13:44.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`+e`
`13:44.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`13:44.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`to make up for their terrible performance`
`13:44.17`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Google is silly`
`13:44.28`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`and they spy on everyone O.O`
`13:44.43`	`SycoPrime`	`There used to be no women on the internet. Then facebook and myspace and WoW happened and made the internet less nerdy. We got women, but we got a whole bunch of other bad things too. Like celebrity blogs.`
`13:44.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`now I am pretty sure I already reviewed the cast on this particular 2 hour replay`
`13:44.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`and don't need to a second time`
`13:45.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh`
`13:45.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`it appears I have run out of stuff to split that is interesting`
`13:45.34`	`SycoPrime`	`I should rephrase. With women, came all kinds of negatives.`
`13:45.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`that means I have to start encoding stuff again`
`13:45.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`sighs`
`13:45.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`so much work`
`13:45.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`so little time`
`13:46.02`	`Mirvra`	`so much fun`
`13:46.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`no not really`
`13:46.19`	`Mirvra`	`well whould you rather be unemployed?`
`13:46.22`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`But I'm here to brighten the day!`
`13:46.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have about 1.2 terabytes of video to sort out and encode which will take about a day nonstop`
`13:46.31`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I'm unemployed :(`
`13:46.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`I am not employed`
`13:46.38`	`Mirvra`	`ooh`
`13:46.39`	`Mirvra`	`ok`
`13:46.45`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Well, I sort of am`
`13:46.46`	`Mirvra`	`unemployed WITHOUT anything to do <.<`
`13:46.51`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`But it's not a hourly job`
`13:46.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`you could pay me to work for anyone but myself :D`
`13:46.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`couldn't`
`13:47.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`what I am working on is commentaries`
`13:47.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`mostly for sc2 but also a big playtime of the Vindictus beta`
`13:47.27`	`Mirvra`	`ok o.o`
`13:47.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`I also just sorted through about 10 hours of WoW footage to condense into a 30 minute string of hilarity`
`13:48.25`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`So if I ever need a video editor/commentator, I'll call you`
`13:48.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`not for hire ;D`
`13:48.55`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`who said anything about hiring oyu?`
`13:49.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`:D`
`13:49.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`you'd have to consult my undead lawyers about that`
`13:49.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`they need some fresh meat`
`13:49.24`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I'm not much meat`
`13:49.34`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`More bones and skin than anything`
`13:49.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`meat enough, they aren't picky`
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`13:50.10`	`tordy`	`harvey who is that guy`
`13:50.24`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Que es?`
`13:50.36`	`vjeux`	`anyone from SEA here?`
`13:50.48`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`No, but I wanna be there`
`13:51.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh sweet jesus the X backup of my borderlands video is still 35 gigs`
`13:52.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh that's only half of it`
`13:52.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`I see`
`13:52.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`the first half is nowhere to be found`
`13:52.32`	`Demonette`	`Mirvra =)`
`13:52.32`	`Demonette`	`XD`
`13:52.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`I love this distinct knack of losing things when I need them`
`13:53.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh nope there it is, it's an mkv`
`13:53.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`and there isn't a single damn video editor that can open that basic format`
`13:53.14`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Dang Russians`
`13:53.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`I am now going to rage`
`13:53.22`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Always hiding your stuff`
`13:53.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`13:53.38`	`Demonette`	`Raging =3`
`13:53.54`	`Demonette`	`Raging is kind a sport i guess`
`13:54.01`	`tordy`	`hi demonette`
`13:54.16`	`Demonette`	`Hi Tordy`
`13:54.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`vegas can't load the audio from the avi`
`13:54.23`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Did you turn off the irc sounds Demonette?`
`13:54.31`	`Demonette`	`<.<`
`13:54.39`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`That mean no?`
`13:54.40`	`Demonette`	`I won't answer this =P`
`13:54.45`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`ok Demonette`
`13:55.22`	`Demonette`	`I won't hear you anyway =P`
`13:55.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`uhhhh`
`13:55.33`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I only hear myseld`
`13:55.34`	`Demonette`	`something make heavier noises at the moment XD`
`13:55.35`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`myself*`
`13:55.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah this kind of sucks not knowing any other video editors :\`
`13:55.46`	`Demonette`	`mysold out =P`
`13:55.54`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`What do you need done Iskatu?`
`13:56.06`	`Xaragoth`	`IskatuMesk`
`13:56.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`it does seem that vegas is incapable of loading AC3 audio`
`13:56.11`	`Xaragoth`	`Leave the Curse Network`
`13:56.11`	`*** join/#sc2mapster C-H (~blah@c-24-10-213-64.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)`
`13:56.14`	`Xaragoth`	`Head for Quakenet`
`13:56.16`	`Xaragoth`	`Go for #machinima`
`13:56.23`	`Demonette`	`Mmmmhhh should i add the tentacle to hanson or should i start texturing first?`
`13:56.36`	`Xaragoth`	`Demonette: Screenshot!`
`13:56.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmm`
`13:56.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`tentacles`
`13:56.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`everyone loves tentacles`
`13:56.54`	`Mirvra`	`no`
`13:56.59`	`Demonette`	`lol XD`
`13:57.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`yep`
`13:57.07`	`Demonette`	`Mirvra how is you map going? XD`
`13:57.17`	`Mirvra`	`havent worked on it >.<`
`13:57.18`	`Xaragoth`	`yes, the tentacles are a ladys best friend`
`13:57.18`	`Xaragoth`	`:D`
`13:57.23`	`Demonette`	`Xaragoth which views?`
`13:57.35`	`Xaragoth`	`just gimme a perspective shot`
`13:57.50`	`Xaragoth`	`now to check on new maps for this evening`
`13:58.00`	`Xaragoth`	`though I doubt we gonna have anything new and great`
`13:58.06`	`Mirvra`	`i posted two suggestions in the RIGHT place o.o`
`13:58.10`	`Demonette`	`uhm.... not sure if tentacles coming out of lady's side are best friend too...`
`13:58.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`tentacles are always a good thing`
`13:58.32`	`Mirvra`	`woot! reverse tentacle ****`
`13:58.34`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh okay xara`
`13:58.42`	`Demonette`	`?`
`13:58.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`see, the Overmind's ship is basically a giant tentacle monster`
`13:58.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`it has an ability called Chain Tentacle Therapy`
`13:59.11`	`Xaragoth`	`Demonette: hand. over. screen.`
`13:59.14`	`Xaragoth`	`loads shotgun.`
`13:59.18`	`Xaragoth`	`Have been playing L4D2 a lot`
`13:59.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`to make it, I'll basically take a leviathan and tape a ton of tentacles onto it.`
`13:59.40`	`Xaragoth`	`IskatuMesk, don't forget the Japanese Schoolgirls`
`13:59.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh, it has to be pink, too`
`13:59.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`got that covered`
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`14:00.25`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Just SetTint in the actor events, and then you'll have your pink tentacle monster, but why do you need japanese schoolgirls?`
`14:00.58`	`vjeux`	`http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/7/559/popularity-main-page.png`
`14:00.59`	`vjeux`	`omg!`
`14:01.16`	`vjeux`	`(it auto detects your region based on your browser language)`
`14:01.42`	`Demonette`	`Thought the leviathan has already tons of tentacles ready...`
`14:01.52`	`vjeux`	`and only shows top popular maps that have a mapster project associated :P`
`14:02.04`	`Demonette`	`wohoo blender crashed =)`
`14:02.13`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I think the levi only has 4`
`14:02.19`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`needs at least 4 more`
`14:02.43`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhhh`
`14:03.01`	`Demonette`	`Why you don't tape some leviathans together?`
`14:03.28`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`idk.. it's IskatuMesk's idea O.O`
`14:03.35`	`tordy`	`bender`
`14:04.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`lolblender`
`14:04.35`	`Demonette`	`What?`
`14:04.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`well at least it isn't XSI`
`14:04.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`shudders`
`14:04.59`	`Demonette`	`XSI?`
`14:05.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's awful`
`14:05.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`and really slow`
`14:05.18`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`vjeux, is the ranking thingy on the site now?`
`14:05.23`	`Demonette`	`Blender is cool suckers... -.-`
`14:05.25`	`vjeux`	`not yet`
`14:05.28`	`vjeux`	`but will soon`
`14:05.32`	`vjeux`	`i hope on monday`
`14:06.01`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`neat. i'll stare at it constantly`
`14:06.05`	`Demonette`	`://www.archina.ebytehost.com/Ressources/Concepts/InfestedHanson_Full.png`
`14:06.13`	`Demonette`	`://www.archina.ebytehost.com/Ressources/Concepts/InfestedHanson_HEad.png`
`14:06.20`	`Demonette`	`Grmpf...`
`14:06.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`pointy`
`14:07.01`	`Demonette`	`Well HEad.png is broken`
`14:07.07`	`Demonette`	`cause the E should be an e...`
`14:07.10`	`Demonette`	`fix it yourself`
`14:07.11`	`vjeux`	`http://www.archina.ebytehost.com/Ressources/Concepts/InfestedHanson_Head.png`
`14:07.12`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Kevin@149-169-133-69.nat.asu.edu)`
`14:07.12`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ`
`14:07.16`	`vjeux`	`hey SilverSeraphim`
`14:07.18`	`vjeux`	`omg`
`14:07.19`	`Xaragoth`	`needs less pixeli`
`14:07.20`	`vjeux`	`Sixen:`
`14:07.24`	`tordy`	`hi sixen`
`14:07.26`	`tordy`	`hi vjeux`
`14:07.29`	`tordy`	`hi demonette`
`14:07.38`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`I want this guy to stab through a marine, lift him in the air, then toss him away..`
`14:07.38`	`Demonette`	`Needs what?`
`14:07.50`	`Demonette`	`Damn my screen is limited.... -.-`
`14:07.51`	`Xaragoth`	`I can see the faces!`
`14:07.52`	`Xaragoth`	`:P`
`14:07.58`	`Demonette`	`I know...`
`14:07.58`	`Xaragoth`	`give it smoothing`
`14:08.01`	`Xaragoth`	`and do again`
`14:08.04`	`Demonette`	`Lol`
`14:08.10`	`Demonette`	`I should have faces...`
`14:08.12`	`Xaragoth`	`also, blender sucks. had to point that out, otixa is not around`
`14:08.13`	`Xaragoth`	`:D`
`14:08.22`	`Sixen`	`mornin`
`14:08.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmmm`
`14:08.27`	`Demonette`	`Blender doesn't suck`
`14:08.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`should I uv purgatory first or the gahennas bc`
`14:08.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`probably won't attempt it for a while but...`
`14:08.56`	`Xaragoth`	`Blender sucks. End of Transmission. :>`
`14:09.23`	`Xaragoth`	`Also, since I had no time to prepare the Excel Tables, because my Grandpa is very ill and I had to take care of him, tomorrow is another segment on Level Design sighs`
`14:09.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`I gave Otixa something to lighten your load`
`14:09.56`	`Skizot`	`sixen likes young boys.`
`14:10.06`	`Sixen`	`orly`
`14:10.50`	`Mirvra`	`isent that the second time you say that Skizot?`
`14:11.04`	`Skizot`	`script running at optimal effeciency.`
`14:11.05`	`Xaragoth`	`IskatuMesk: Yeah, I know`
`14:11.14`	`Xaragoth`	`we'll probably make use of that`
`14:11.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`I am searching for good subjects for the second episode`
`14:11.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have some material recorded but most of it doesn't fall into the category of guides or tutorials`
`14:11.53`	`Skizot`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/NESGameguy.png`
`14:11.55`	`Skizot`	`sixen`
`14:11.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`most of my work deals heavily with experimentation in general`
`14:11.59`	`Skizot`	`for terran conflict.`
`14:12.06`	`Skizot`	`triceron is making it.`
`14:12.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9005/ghbc1.jpg`
`14:12.17`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Terin (~Terin@dhcp-vlan3242-31-172.wireless.uic.edu)`
`14:12.34`	`Mirvra`	`O.O`
`14:12.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`I will uv and rig a version of this that will be semi-sc2 ready minus materials`
`14:12.40`	`Mirvra`	`i want that spaceship <.<`
`14:12.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`and then make the CGI variant after`
`14:13.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`and this thing will lay waste to a terran/protoss fleet`
`14:13.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`all I can say`
`14:13.11`	`Mirvra`	`seriously O.o why arent ships like that already IN the game <.<`
`14:13.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`a lot of work to do`
`14:13.23`	`Xaragoth`	`it still looks like a giant rifle`
`14:13.23`	`Xaragoth`	`^^`
`14:13.32`	`Mirvra`	`hush you -.-`
`14:13.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`it basically is`
`14:13.35`	`Mirvra`	`dont ruin the moment`
`14:13.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7955/purgt8.jpg`
`14:13.45`	`Xaragoth`	`its a deathstar \o/`
`14:13.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`little bit of an outdated render`
`14:13.56`	`Sixen`	`Really, Skizot?`
`14:14.01`	`Skizot`	`you guys need to learn how to do AO renders.`
`14:14.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`surprisingly the purgatory is pretty low poly still`
`14:14.03`	`Skizot`	`yeah`
`14:14.03`	`Sixen`	`You dropped it?`
`14:14.08`	`Skizot`	`dropped what?`
`14:14.12`	`Sixen`	`Terran Conflict`
`14:14.13`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (6d55528a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.85.82.138)`
`14:14.23`	`Sixen`	`ooooh`
`14:14.23`	`Skizot`	`i started working on it again...`
`14:14.24`	`SycoPrime`	`IskatuMesk: You gonna stop texturing them 100% matte black?`
`14:14.26`	`Sixen`	`he's making the model for you`
`14:14.27`	`Xaragoth`	`IskatuMesk, what are you doing exactly anyways?`
`14:14.27`	`Sixen`	`gotcha`
`14:14.29`	`Skizot`	`slowly, but working.`
`14:14.29`	`Xaragoth`	`Demons in Starcraft?`
`14:14.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`syncoprime> those two are not textured`
`14:14.38`	`Demonette`	`Xaragoth you know that Hanson unit model should have seeable faces?`
`14:14.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`xaragoth > sekrit`
`14:14.55`	`Xaragoth`	`sekrit is not nice D:`
`14:14.59`	`SycoPrime`	`IskatuMesk: Ah, so those very black in-game screenshots were units with sans texture, not intended final coloration. 'k.`
`14:15.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`no, those were just sans final normals`
`14:15.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`so they didn't look proper`
`14:15.27`	`SycoPrime`	`Ah`
`14:15.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`but yes they are very dark in standard lighting`
`14:15.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`they are made out of an ebon rock/obsidian, not steel`
`14:15.46`	`Demonette`	`Mmhhh...`
`14:15.49`	`Xaragoth`	`Demonette: I wanted a human looking version! a smooth one! zerg are organic, so are humans btw :P demons are still pixels I suppose`
`14:15.52`	`Demonette`	`adding a tentacle... or maybe 3`
`14:16.08`	`Demonette`	`Lol`
`14:16.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`Xaragoth > you are probably not familiar with brood war modding I presume`
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`14:16.22`	`Demonette`	`Hydralisk still have corners on them if you look at the close`
`14:16.30`	`Demonette`	`so hanson has it`
`14:16.33`	`Xaragoth`	`thats their had`
`14:16.34`	`Demonette`	`also marines have them`
`14:16.35`	`Xaragoth`	`:>`
`14:16.39`	`Xaragoth`	`*head`
`14:16.42`	`Demonette`	`No it's not`
`14:16.50`	`Xaragoth`	`IskatuMesk: No, that was never a point of my interest`
`14:17.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`that is where most of my previous work took place in`
`14:17.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`did BW stuff for about ten years`
`14:17.21`	`Xaragoth`	`I was beyond pixeli sprites by the time I started doing good stuff ^^`
`14:17.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`what I am making in sc2 is a rebuild of my last starcraft project, Armageddon Onslaught, in campaign form`
`14:17.32`	`Demonette`	`I built hanson out of the Story-Mod model and reduced the polycount`
`14:17.43`	`Demonette`	`for become useable as a normal unit...`
`14:17.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's not something I will consider releasing publicly`
`14:17.48`	`Demonette`	`-.-`
`14:18.04`	`Xaragoth`	`you know demonette`
`14:18.06`	`Demonette`	`and it's already smoothed... well only by one step...`
`14:18.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`assuming I get anywhere with it`
`14:18.13`	`Xaragoth`	`it might have been easier using the infested`
`14:18.14`	`Demonette`	`what i know?`
`14:18.16`	`Xaragoth`	`and adding two tits`
`14:18.17`	`Xaragoth`	`^^`
`14:18.19`	`Demonette`	`Lol`
`14:18.24`	`Xaragoth`	`nobody gonna notice xP`
`14:18.30`	`Demonette`	`well it's a mix of both`
`14:18.38`	`Demonette`	`... to be honest`
`14:18.48`	`Demonette`	`i tock the Infested Civilian`
`14:18.49`	`Xaragoth`	`IskatuMesk, you'd still be better off with UDK or Sandbox I assume`
`14:18.50`	`Mirvra`	`tits and infested?`
`14:18.54`	`Mirvra`	`creepy..`
`14:18.54`	`Xaragoth`	`Because SC2 is a little limited`
`14:18.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`if I knew programming yes`
`14:18.59`	`Sixen`	`Interesting, mirvra`
`14:19.01`	`Mirvra`	`Kerrigan v2 xD`
`14:19.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`and yes it is`
`14:19.04`	`Demonette`	`mixed him with hansons SM model`
`14:19.08`	`Mirvra`	`hah?`
`14:19.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`that is why I am focusing my efforts on making test concepts right now and not real development`
`14:19.21`	`Mirvra`	`what's intresting? o.o`
`14:19.23`	`Xaragoth`	`just grab some indian programmer to do it Iskatu :D`
`14:19.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`hah`
`14:19.30`	`tordy`	`that's me`
`14:19.31`	`Xaragoth`	`Its also not that hard to do UScript`
`14:19.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`I don't trust other people to do work for me`
`14:19.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`fell into that pit too many times in my younger days`
`14:19.48`	`Demonette`	`Hansons is a kind of kerrigan... only without wings`
`14:19.48`	`Xaragoth`	`Heh`
`14:19.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`always screws you in the end`
`14:19.50`	`Mirvra`	`Sixen what's intresting? O.o`
`14:20.01`	`Demonette`	`and more fucked up in appierance`
`14:20.18`	`Demonette`	`(especially the face)`
`14:20.18`	`Sixen`	`@Mirvra: Tits and Infested.`
`14:20.21`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`14:20.31`	`Demonette`	`Lol... -.-`
`14:20.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`if blizzard would cough up 512x512 maps, volumetric fog, and some performance fixes in the editor I would be happy`
`14:20.38`	`Mirvra`	`well yeah o.o`
`14:20.39`	`Demonette`	`nobody likes me and my works -.-`
`14:20.42`	`Mirvra`	`[16:14] <Xaragoth> and adding two tits`
`14:20.43`	`tordy`	`gross`
`14:20.49`	`Mirvra`	`[16:14] <Demonette> well it's a mix of both`
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`14:21.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh yeah, and wc3 features. Like more than 2 cliffs...`
`14:21.13`	`Xaragoth`	`(16:20:41) (Demonette) nobody likes me and my works -.- <- its all about wearing the right clothes!`
`14:21.16`	`Demonette`	`Whats so gross about miking hanson with an infested civilian?`
`14:21.28`	`Xaragoth`	`I just read milking ...`
`14:21.33`	`Demonette`	`Lol should this mean i have to get some?`
`14:21.44`	`Demonette`	`making...`
`14:21.45`	`Demonette`	`gnar`
`14:21.48`	`Demonette`	`what ever`
`14:21.50`	`Sixen`	`IskatuMesk: We figured out a way to make 512x512 maps`
`14:21.51`	`Demonette`	`milk yourself XD`
`14:21.52`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o nicoli_s] by ChanServ`
`14:21.53`	`Xaragoth`	`well, iskatu .... I still wanna know how they made the bridge model walkable`
`14:22.04`	`Xaragoth`	`if we get that`
`14:22.06`	`Xaragoth`	`BOOYA`
`14:22.12`	`Xaragoth`	`we can do multi-level buildings`
`14:22.12`	`Xaragoth`	`^^`
`14:22.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`Sixen > do say`
`14:22.20`	`Sixen`	`There's a thread... lemme find it.`
`14:22.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`multi level buildings would be really nice`
`14:22.35`	`Xaragoth`	`working with sc2 terrian in pro-mode would be great`
`14:22.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`I found a thread about it but apparently the game still wouldn't load them?`
`14:22.42`	`Xaragoth`	`like building your level without the damn bounds`
`14:22.43`	`Xaragoth`	`:>`
`14:22.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`if I had my way`
`14:22.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'd make every single map with 3ds max`
`14:22.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`add doodads in the editor`
`14:22.56`	`Sixen`	`Ah yeah. I think the game had a problem?`
`14:23.09`	`Demonette`	`I'm allowed to make my own rage thread?`
`14:23.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`wasn't sure of the specifics but iirc it was the same kind of problem brood war had heh`
`14:23.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`editor could make the map but the game didn't like it for some reason`
`14:23.30`	`Xaragoth`	`hrm`
`14:23.36`	`Xaragoth`	`wc3 could have 512x512 with no limits`
`14:23.40`	`Xaragoth`	`so, it should be possible`
`14:23.41`	`Xaragoth`	`oo`
`14:23.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes wc3 you absolutely must have those unlocked editors`
`14:23.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`the doodad limit was ridiculous`
`14:24.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`I am used to modding games with weird limits`
`14:24.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`but not very fond of it`
`14:24.34`	`Xaragoth`	`75k doodads, mark the number`
`14:24.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2041/image5pt.jpg`
`14:25.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have a large project on hold for age of wonders 2`
`14:25.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`mostly grunt work ahead of it`
`14:25.15`	`Demonette`	`Wooow`
`14:25.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`lots and lots and lots of sprites to be made out of 3ds max`
`14:25.19`	`Demonette`	`AGE OF WONDER 2`
`14:25.21`	`Demonette`	`=)`
`14:25.23`	`Xaragoth`	`you know`
`14:25.25`	`Xaragoth`	`we're in 2010`
`14:25.27`	`Xaragoth`	`we got 3d graphics`
`14:25.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`so?`
`14:25.37`	`Xaragoth`	`points at shiny.`
`14:25.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`people still play brood war/heroes 3`
`14:25.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`personally I prefer sprite-based games...`
`14:25.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`give me BW with 1920x1200, a particle engine and some other shit like that`
`14:25.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`and I'd be set for life`
`14:26.03`	`Mirvra`	`yet you make awsome spaceship 3D models? o.o`
`14:26.04`	`Demonette`	`AoW2 is one of the coolest games ever =P`
`14:26.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`when I originally made those models they were intended for CGI`
`14:26.29`	`Mirvra`	`nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo`
`14:26.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`sc2 presents the opportunity to put them ingame but it's not necessary`
`14:26.37`	`Mirvra`	`please do! O.O`
`14:26.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`it will more like be a real pain in the ass`
`14:26.48`	`Mirvra`	`aw...`
`14:26.59`	`Mirvra`	`but... but.... the awsomeness.....`
`14:26.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`because of how annoying and convoluted the data editor would make the weapons and unit AI`
`14:27.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`also I dunno how to make turrets work properly yet`
`14:27.16`	`Mirvra`	`aw... k..`
`14:27.32`	`Xaragoth`	`thats easy`
`14:27.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`or I might have tried it by now, without a texture`
`14:27.32`	`SycoPrime`	`You make a badass model, IskatuMesk, I'll make the turrets on your ship work right.`
`14:27.48`	`Xaragoth`	`just cut them off your mainship and add them with site ops`
`14:27.49`	`*** join/#sc2mapster liq3 (~liquidman@ppp118-209-47-148.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net)`
`14:28.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`can you add them to an attachment point?`
`14:28.07`	`SycoPrime`	`Yes.`
`14:28.08`	`Xaragoth`	`sure`
`14:28.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`ok`
`14:28.15`	`Mirvra`	`o.o`
`14:28.17`	`Mirvra`	`so`
`14:28.17`	`Xaragoth`	`just give us 5 million helpers with the right name for weapons`
`14:28.19`	`Xaragoth`	`also`
`14:28.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`that will make things a bit easier`
`14:28.23`	`SycoPrime`	`That'd actually be real easy. Make bones with labels "turret01" etc.`
`14:28.23`	`Xaragoth`	`the turrets for bunkers`
`14:28.27`	`Xaragoth`	`from the campaign`
`14:28.28`	`Mirvra`	`does that mean awsome ship? <.<`
`14:28.31`	`Xaragoth`	`work exactly like what you want`
`14:28.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`that is how you do stuff in homeworld 2 and to a degree supreme commander`
`14:28.42`	`Xaragoth`	`you could also even limit their arc`
`14:28.52`	`Xaragoth`	`to only let them fire on the front, back & their particular side`
`14:28.58`	`Mirvra`	`o.o`
`14:29.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`I had someone a while ago make a demo of the splitter missiles`
`14:29.11`	`Xaragoth`	`and, you could make it so, that you can focus-fire turrets with your own ship`
`14:29.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`so I know those work`
`14:29.14`	`Xaragoth`	`and take them out 1 by 1`
`14:29.15`	`Xaragoth`	`:>`
`14:29.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`I asked a while ago if you can make weapons use range calcs based on ref_target and not ref_center`
`14:29.35`	`Mirvra`	`a ship with that many guns needs multi targeting though <.<`
`14:29.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`and that's doable I was told`
`14:29.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`because this ship is really, really big`
`14:29.56`	`Mirvra`	`o.o`
`14:30.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/3903/76781386.jpg`
`14:30.09`	`Xaragoth`	`@ mirv: not a problem`
`14:30.17`	`Xaragoth`	`without giving an attack-target`
`14:30.22`	`Xaragoth`	`they'd search for their own targets`
`14:30.33`	`Xaragoth`	`basically they'd react like a group of units`
`14:30.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`the main cannon would be an ability used by unit AI on specific things, which would be easy enough`
`14:30.44`	`Mirvra`	`...`
`14:30.49`	`Mirvra`	`that sounds sooooo nice o.o`
`14:31.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`the attack and defense drones, cloned from carrier interceptors (a pipe dream in brood war, carrier shit is totally hardcoded)`
`14:31.28`	`Mirvra`	`xD i'm having this ''MUAHAHAHHAHAAAAA'' moment in my mind atm where i unleash that ship against ALL the sc2 units xD`
`14:31.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`well in my campaign one of the missions you pilot one of these`
`14:31.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`and go around blowing up planets`
`14:31.52`	`Mirvra`	`o.o`
`14:32.04`	`Mirvra`	`sounds... so beautiful...`
`14:32.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`the concept is that onboard the bridge you can access the ship or access battlefield ops (RTS basically)`
`14:32.15`	`Xaragoth`	`got some battlecruiser flying around`
`14:32.18`	`Xaragoth`	`that can take on 250 units`
`14:32.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`mechanically it shouldn't be too hard to do`
`14:32.20`	`Mirvra`	`cool o.o`
`14:32.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`performance-wise... I am not so confident`
`14:32.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`a lot of the splitter missiles cause a nice fps hit when they split`
`14:32.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`so those will have to be staggered`
`14:33.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`beam weapons I doubt those take much performance on their own, but these would have line splash`
`14:33.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`not sure if that changes anything`
`14:33.59`	`Mirvra`	`... hey... how much bigger whould the ship be then... say a battlecruiser? o.o`
`14:34.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`uh`
`14:34.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`well I was told a BC is around 2.7km`
`14:34.12`	`Mirvra`	`roughly`
`14:34.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`so that is the canon spec for my campaign's specs`
`14:34.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`this ship is 80km`
`14:34.31`	`Mirvra`	`...........`
`14:34.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`also, it's runed in Underworld runes, so it has supernatural powers as well`
`14:34.48`	`Mirvra`	`whouldent that thing pretty much cover then entire map? O.o;;`
`14:34.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`I had a small writeup...`
`14:34.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah, if you had it to-scale`
`14:34.59`	`Mirvra`	`the*`
`14:35.02`	`Mirvra`	`ah`
`14:35.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`for my map I'd have to make bcs very small to make it realistic`
`14:35.16`	`Mirvra`	`aaah`
`14:35.29`	`Mirvra`	`soo.... awsomeness? o.o`
`14:35.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'd have to rule out strike craft entirely, it would hurt performance too much`
`14:35.41`	`Xaragoth`	`so ... demons in starcraft`
`14:35.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`14:36.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=142851`
`14:36.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`here you are`
`14:36.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`some lore and specs`
`14:36.16`	`Xaragoth`	`facepalms.`
`14:36.23`	`Xaragoth`	`thats like zerg on azeroth`
`14:36.31`	`Mirvra`	`just ooooone more question o.o if you add the ship... will it be specific to your campaign or will you add it as an asset?`
`14:36.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`indeed`
`14:36.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`the lore for this world is totally rewritten though`
`14:36.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`for example, the Terrans are not based in Korhal, it's all Earth, and they are a lot stronger than they are in say, sc2`
`14:37.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`I don't plan to make this stuff public, far too many people abused my leniency on my sc1 projects and stole a ton of my stuff`
`14:37.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`and gave no credit even when asked to`
`14:37.54`	`Mirvra`	`aw...`
`14:38.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`I will make some stuff public but not the units/models`
`14:38.11`	`Mirvra`	`sighs`
`14:38.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`if you are in my private audience you get access`
`14:38.26`	`Xaragoth`	`well`
`14:38.32`	`Xaragoth`	`people can grab it anyways`
`14:38.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`but that is a sort of a distant future thing`
`14:38.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`it won't be published`
`14:38.49`	`Xaragoth`	`oh well, why waste your time on it than?`
`14:38.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`personal`
`14:39.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`much like my novel or anything else`
`14:39.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`I mostly do it for myself`
`14:39.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`a long time ago I worked for publicity and hype and all that`
`14:39.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`and I found that was a demon I didn't need sitting on my shoulders, it ruined me`
`14:39.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`and then I did release stuff, all I got was people just stealing my stuff`
`14:40.27`	`Xaragoth`	`oh well, not everyone is made for this type of business ^^`
`14:40.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`shrug`
`14:40.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`I don't disappoint anyone if I fail... and I usually do due to my mental disabilities`
`14:41.15`	`Mirvra`	`hah?`
`14:41.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`if I got this ship functional in sc2 that would be a monumental achievement`
`14:41.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`much less say, the mission for it`
`14:41.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`been kind of deadlocked for about 3-4 years now`
`14:42.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`not so good times for me heh`
`14:42.28`	`Xaragoth`	`hrm`
`14:42.30`	`Mirvra`	`wait... what mental... thingy? <.<`
`14:42.31`	`Xaragoth`	`xara is hungry`
`14:42.37`	`Mirvra`	`then go eat xara -.-`
`14:42.39`	`Xaragoth`	`bites mirv in the arm.`
`14:42.42`	`Xaragoth`	`Food :O`
`14:42.50`	`Mirvra`	`i am not edible -.-`
`14:43.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`mirvra > too complex to get into here`
`14:43.11`	`Mirvra`	`oookay...`
`14:43.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`schizophrenia, high functioning autism, chronic depression`
`14:43.19`	`Xaragoth`	`I doubt that!`
`14:43.22`	`Mirvra`	`aaah`
`14:43.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`personality disorders and such`
`14:43.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`basically I'm fucked up something fierce`
`14:43.42`	`Mirvra`	`dosent sound too bad though o.o`
`14:43.50`	`Mirvra`	`'cept the depression -.-`
`14:43.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`you wouldn't think I've worked with 3ds max for nearly ten years`
`14:43.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`because I still can't do much with it`
`14:44.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`haha... words can't describe it`
`14:44.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`you want to know why I work on these mods for myself?`
`14:44.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`because it's all I have`
`14:44.26`	`Xaragoth`	`well, it sucks, but what can ya do besides wait for someone to invent a cure`
`14:44.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`can't be cured`
`14:44.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`not so easy as that`
`14:44.57`	`Sixen`	`Iskatu, your SC1 mods were really impressive =\`
`14:45.00`	`Xaragoth`	`oh well, there always is some genius somewhere. someday we can even cure stupidity, at least I hope we can`
`14:45.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`I've been on various drugs and anti-depressants and such for over a year now, and none of them have had any effect at all`
`14:45.02`	`Mirvra`	`wel.. autism probably can't...`
`14:45.17`	`Mirvra`	`and honestly using anti-depressants wont help -.-`
`14:45.22`	`*** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~LordAbyss@150.135.211.242)`
`14:45.24`	`Mirvra`	`trust me i know -.-`
`14:45.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (~zoxc@ti0128a380-dhcp0073.bb.online.no)`
`14:45.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`Mirvra > I did that as a last-ditch effort after a decade of suicide attempts and misyer`
`14:45.41`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhhh`
`14:45.41`	`Mirvra`	`i am neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever using that shit again >.<`
`14:45.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`misery`
`14:45.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`because I have nothing to lose`
`14:46.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`so I tried it to see if I could incite some kind of change`
`14:46.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`but they literally have no effect at all`
`14:46.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`they make me tired, that's it`
`14:46.18`	`Mirvra`	`i'm always tired though o.o`
`14:46.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`well, me too, but beside the point :p`
`14:46.38`	`Mirvra`	`only thing keeping me from being suicidal is my ''cowards way out'' attitude <.<`
`14:46.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`sixen > you familiar with them? :D`
`14:46.52`	`Demonette`	`So you spending your time on models and privat campaign stuff cause thats all that is left of you?`
`14:47.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`all there ever was to begin with really. Well, it started with writing and voice acting... again, long story`
`14:47.15`	`Sixen`	`Yeah, used to play some back in the day ;)`
`14:47.25`	`Demonette`	`If you ask me i would say that left overs are very impressiv.... oO`
`14:47.27`	`Sixen`	`Always just knew your name as a big modder.`
`14:47.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`was introduced to brood war in 1999, started mapping immediately, and then introduced to stardraft and AI modding, that consumed me for so many years`
`14:47.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`modded diablo 2 a fair amount`
`14:47.55`	`Sixen`	`I didn't know you did any d2 modding~`
`14:48.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`imo diablo 2 is blizzard's best game for modding if only because of how amazingly fun it is`
`14:48.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`however`
`14:48.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`debugging is a major bitch`
`14:48.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`most of my d2 modding was limited to mapping and terraining`
`14:48.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`I made giant preset maps in d2`
`14:48.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`took forever but I managed to create some nice environments`
`14:48.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have some shots somewhere, let me see`
`14:49.09`	`Mirvra`	`hmm...`
`14:49.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`I loved diablo 2 modding but I could never keep motivated through the tough times`
`14:49.21`	`Sixen`	`Nice :P. I know Blizz left stuff in txt files for Modders`
`14:49.24`	`Mirvra`	`Asperger and adhd...`
`14:49.25`	`Sixen`	`I checked into those game files a little`
`14:49.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`d2 has two major points that really screwed me`
`14:49.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`missiles and spells`
`14:49.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`it has a client-server side system - for EVERYTHING, not just say battle.net`
`14:49.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`creates a lot of complications`
`14:50.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`also, spells are based on formula and math and such, my crux of hell`
`14:50.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`so I never really got into those`
`14:50.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/338/0/f/ITAS_Starship_Sprite_Sheet_by_IskatuMesk.jpg`
`14:50.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`those are starcraft sprites, I made them all open source`
`14:51.17`	`Sixen`	`Ah yeah, I recall seeing some of those actually`
`14:51.24`	`Sixen`	`Like that giant thing in the bottomleft`
`14:51.31`	`Sixen`	`Fear Megaship`
`14:51.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`mm yes that was a prize model back in 2008`
`14:51.57`	`IskatuMesk`	oddly enough I've never attempted an Undead ship past revising the Zeral`Motakk since I switched from maya to max
`14:52.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5628/dreadnaught6te1.jpg`
`14:52.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`he's skinned`
`14:52.57`	`*** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (516f48df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.72.223)`
`14:52.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8057/screenshot023.jpg`
`14:53.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3471/screenshot020cbc.jpg`
`14:53.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`I learned that modding is all about problem solving`
`14:53.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9382/screenshot016b.jpg`
`14:54.02`	`Demonette`	`How much time have you spend on modding....?`
`14:54.19`	`Sixen`	`He's been modding for years ;)`
`14:54.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`now? about 12 years`
`14:54.29`	`Sixen`	`Literally, I remember hearing his name as a young teenager`
`14:54.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`I started with age of empires vanilla, AI modding and a campaign`
`14:54.50`	`Sixen`	`I'm honored he's hanging out here, ;)`
`14:54.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`moved onto brood war ai modding`
`14:54.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`:)`
`14:55.13`	`Mirvra`	`mrr...`
`14:55.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3353/screenshot00037w.jpg`
`14:55.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`basic laying out for a d2 map`
`14:55.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`all about making the illusion of height`
`14:55.29`	`Sixen`	`That'sd 2?`
`14:55.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`14:55.42`	`Sixen`	`crazy`
`14:55.58`	`nicoli_s`	`very cool`
`14:56.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`a combination of tiles from Durance of Hate and some other stuff`
`14:56.08`	`nicoli_s`	`im hoping d3 will be moddable`
`14:56.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmmm I kind of doubt it`
`14:56.18`	`Demonette`	`Yey seems like a living legend oO.... so much awesome stuff there....`
`14:56.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`d2 modding depended on LAN`
`14:56.24`	`Sixen`	`Not sure tbh nic.`
`14:56.39`	`Sixen`	`They already said there won't be any type of addon oor ui modding as well =\`
`14:56.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`could not run it on b.net because it was server-side data stored like characters, good way to get banned if it worked at all`
`14:56.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`most mods disabled thta button altogether`
`14:56.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`d2 was all about hamachi`
`14:56.57`	`Sixen`	`haha yeah`
`14:57.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`d3 has no LAN, this is a really big issue all in its own just as it is for sc2`
`14:57.15`	`nicoli_s`	`no LAN? boo :(`
`14:57.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`as much as I really hope d3 will be available... I really don't think so`
`14:57.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`blizzard wants total control, that comes at the cost of us`
`14:58.01`	`Sixen`	`I am going to try and mess with the UI though.`
`14:58.09`	`Sixen`	`If it's just .D3Layout fies or something, it should be easy :)`
`14:58.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`presumably yes`
`14:58.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`blizzard supposedly is watching sc2's mpqs though`
`14:58.30`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`Shouldn't there be custom games in d3 just as there is in sc2?`
`14:58.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`I imagine the same would be with d3`
`14:58.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`highly unlikely`
`14:58.55`	`Sixen`	`Shawn, it's not really "custom" games. They're all just games.`
`14:58.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`if that were possible it would be an enormous shift of their diablo design philosophy`
`14:59.02`	`Sixen`	`Yar`
`14:59.06`	`Sixen`	`Which won't really hppwn`
`14:59.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/2356/capgax2nh6.jpg`
`14:59.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`now, sins of a solar empire`
`14:59.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`don't go anywhere near that game as a modder`
`15:00.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`you will regret it`
`15:00.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`homeworld 2 as well`
`15:00.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`in fact avoid relic altogether`
`15:00.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`though I have to say dawn of skirmish did a really nice job with DoW's AI`
`15:00.56`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`15:01.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`if any of your are fond of dawn of war: soulstorm or dark crusade or whatever`
`15:01.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`go check out dawn of skirmish`
`15:01.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`I did testing for them for the longest time`
`15:01.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`but by god I can't even rip sounds out of dawn of war 2 properly`
`15:01.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`relic is obsessed with these arcane formats`
`15:02.19`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`did anyone find that funny but me?`
`15:02.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's only funny until you actually get involved with it`
`15:02.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`then you realize how retarded it is`
`15:03.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`as much as I hate the sc2 editor I will never hate it as much as I hated homeworld 2`
`15:04.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5mHZdkur40`
`15:05.41`	`*** join/#sc2mapster allot (5ae5c5cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.229.197.207)`
`15:06.06`	`allot`	`hi there`
`15:06.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`sup`
`15:06.18`	`Mirvra`	`?`
`15:06.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`Mirvra will probably like that video`
`15:06.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`it has big ships and lasers`
`15:06.43`	`Mirvra`	`eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh? O.O why advoid homeworld 2? >.<`
`15:06.45`	`Mirvra`	`no wait`
`15:06.46`	`Mirvra`	`yeah`
`15:06.53`	`Mirvra`	`on second thought avoid number 2 <.<`
`15:07.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`enjoy my custom sounds annihilating hw2's channels`
`15:08.49`	`Demonette`	`And you done this all alone?`
`15:09.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes I work alone and outsource odd jobs to people in some instances`
`15:09.31`	`allot`	`How can i trigger a unit to never stop but u can still change its facing?`
`15:09.34`	`Mirvra`	`man... i feel sorry for those ships... getting butchered by those black things like that <.<`
`15:09.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`but not for stuff like this, no one I know does stuff in these games`
`15:10.12`	`Demonette`	`Seems this black ship is one of the undead ones...`
`15:10.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEd_3RCYngo`
`15:10.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`15:10.27`	`*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210)`
`15:10.43`	`*** join/#sc2mapster vjeux (52e9ed5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.233.237.91)`
`15:11.32`	`Aetos`	`roar`
`15:11.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's funny though that despite all the difficulty with homeworld 2 I was my happiest right there, because I was doing something that meant a lot to me - getting stuff canon to my novel functional ingame`
`15:11.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`but of course that did not last very long`
`15:12.20`	`Mirvra`	`this is gonna sound really mean`
`15:12.32`	`Mirvra`	`but have you ever tried having a more positive outlook on stuff?`
`15:12.36`	`Aetos`	`lol`
`15:12.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`haha`
`15:12.44`	`Mirvra`	`and no i'm not stupid`
`15:12.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`I did a very long time ago`
`15:12.53`	`Twiner`	`where are all the really cool maps`
`15:12.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`veeery long time ago`
`15:12.59`	`Mirvra`	`see`
`15:13.02`	`Twiner`	`7`
`15:13.04`	`SycoPrime`	`Says the chick who was on the depression train with him about 20 minutes ago.`
`15:13.04`	`Mirvra`	`you're doing it again`
`15:13.17`	`Mirvra`	`you keep talking like as if your whole family just died or something`
`15:13.20`	`SycoPrime`	`IskatuMesk: What changed?`
`15:13.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`once you go through what I've gone through you have a hard time looking at anything in a positive light anymore`
`15:13.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`Mirvra yes you could say that`
`15:13.42`	`Mirvra`	`and 'Syco.. i'm NOT depressed atm am i?`
`15:13.50`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Demonette_ (6d54e997@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.84.233.151)`
`15:13.52`	`Aetos`	`im depressed`
`15:13.56`	`Demonette_`	`Sry i vanished...`
`15:13.56`	`Aetos`	`civ 5 isn't released yet :[`
`15:13.59`	`Demonette_`	`Uhm`
`15:14.03`	`Demonette_`	`so where was i...`
`15:14.12`	`Twiner`	`uh`
`15:14.14`	`Twiner`	`yes it is`
`15:14.15`	`Mirvra`	`you were helping me make a point.... i hope..`
`15:14.21`	`Mirvra`	`anyways`
`15:14.22`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Megalon (~Megalon@d86-32-5-113.cust.tele2.at)`
`15:14.32`	`Demonette_`	`ah well you got a bunch of mod project with the same topic?`
`15:14.41`	`Twiner`	`theres no point in being depressed and having a negative outlook, however, generally theres nothing you can do about it`
`15:14.41`	`Demonette_`	`A point?`
`15:14.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`all of my mods are based on my writings`
`15:14.52`	`Mirvra`	`unless your entire town has been killed by rabbit rabits i dont see a reason why you can't look at stuff in a positive light -.-`
`15:14.53`	`Twiner`	`giving people crap for it is pointless`
`15:14.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`Black Sun is a part of my novel's lore`
`15:15.09`	`allot`	`How can i trigger a unit to never stop but u can still change its facing?`
`15:15.09`	`Aetos`	`my town was attack by ninja rabbit pirates`
`15:15.23`	`Mirvra`	`they dont count becuase they were ninja's`
`15:15.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`the stuff I'm working with in sc2 is a part of Armageddon lore`
`15:15.35`	`Aetos`	`but they were also pirates`
`15:15.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`which is a rewrite of starcraft and such`
`15:15.55`	`Mirvra`	`and yet you're never gonna show it to ppl?`
`15:15.57`	`Aetos`	`why would you rewrite canon?`
`15:16.00`	`SycoPrime`	`IskatuMesk: Staying stuck in grievance doesn't help anything. There's a whole world aside from what you lost, no matter how important what's gone was.`
`15:16.08`	`Mirvra`	`^`
`15:16.28`	`Twiner`	`pbbt`
`15:16.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`maybe for others SycoPrime, maybe for people who still have something left in them`
`15:16.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`Aetos > I don't like it at all :D`
`15:16.39`	`Twiner`	`you know, I'm the happiest I've ever been in my life`
`15:16.44`	`Aetos`	`so go make your own fiction?`
`15:16.48`	`Aetos`	`and do wahtever you want`
`15:16.50`	`Mirvra`	`everyone has stuff left -.-`
`15:16.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`that's what this is in a way`
`15:16.54`	`Aetos`	`instead of making a bastard of something else?`
`15:16.54`	`Twiner`	`before this point, I was horribly depressed and hated my life`
`15:17.00`	`Mirvra`	`otherwise you'd just be hudeling up on the floor whimpering -.-`
`15:17.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's not only a rewrite, but a considerable addition as well`
`15:17.13`	`Twiner`	`and sure, people gave me crap for being depressed`
`15:17.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`well, I'm doing it because that's what the original inception was, although it was not a rewrite at the time`
`15:17.24`	`Aetos`	`ender's game > starcraft >.>`
`15:17.36`	`Twiner`	`and its my opinion that, depression will stick until you're done with it,a nd giving people crap for their depression only accomplishes one thing`
`15:17.42`	`Twiner`	`making them feel shitty about feeling shitty`
`15:17.48`	`Mirvra`	`Twiner`
`15:18.09`	`Mirvra`	`so you're saying it's better to leave ppl feeling miserable and sorry for no fucking reason for years to come is better?`
`15:18.19`	`Twiner`	`I'm saying theres no reason to give them shit`
`15:18.24`	`Aetos`	`yes, until ninja rabit space robots rape them`
`15:18.28`	`Mirvra`	`it's not like i'm giving them shit on purpose`
`15:18.28`	`Twiner`	`you can be supportive and not be mean...`
`15:18.29`	`Aetos`	`rabbit*`
`15:18.33`	`Twiner`	`this is possible`
`15:18.40`	`SycoPrime`	`Twiner is right about guilting people over their depression. I don't think either of us were trying to do that.`
`15:18.56`	`Mirvra`	`unless you've noticed depressed ppl never seem to care about the support others try to give them...`
`15:18.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`heh... nothing you guys can say would hurt me`
`15:18.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`so don't worry about it`
`15:19.10`	`Twiner`	`My wife would disagree :p`
`15:19.22`	`Mirvra`	`well Mesk.. no one's freaking trying to hurt you -.-`
`15:19.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`I know`
`15:19.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'm just saying`
`15:19.33`	`Aetos`	`I could say a sexist remark right now about kitchens, but I will refrain :p`
`15:19.35`	`Mirvra`	`just trying to get you out of the ''there's nothing that can be done about it'' shit phase -.-`
`15:19.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`no point arguing about semantics`
`15:19.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`that's not a phase`
`15:20.00`	`Twiner`	`I've known her since we were 9, listened to her go through multiple abusive relationships, and was supportive about it the entire time, and she's nothing but greatful for my support`
`15:20.17`	`Mirvra`	`...`
`15:20.34`	`Mirvra`	`how come i never get any allies in these kinds of arguments? <.< sigh...`
`15:20.35`	`Twiner`	`Mirvra: another point I'm trying ot make is that you can't help people through depression, you can olny be supportive while they are depressed`
`15:20.46`	`Mirvra`	`.........`
`15:20.48`	`Twiner`	`modern psychology is basically showing we can't do shit for people except be good to one another`
`15:20.59`	`Demonette`	`Sry Mirvra i'm only listening to whats going on at the moment...`
`15:21.09`	`Aetos`	`I have no clue what's going on`
`15:21.14`	`Demonette`	`I#m sure you are right in a way Mirvra`
`15:21.17`	`Twiner`	`I've no clue whats going on either`
`15:21.17`	`Aetos`	`that's why im just saying nonsensical useless comments`
`15:21.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`Aetos > me neither`
`15:21.21`	`Demonette`	`but not sure if you do it the right way`
`15:21.22`	`Mirvra`	`the only ''cure'' for depression is to get over it`
`15:21.27`	`Twiner`	`Mirvra: exactly`
`15:21.29`	`Twiner`	`it takes time`
`15:21.33`	`Twiner`	`its different for anyone`
`15:21.35`	`Mirvra`	`and just sitting there wallowing in it ISENT GONNA WORK`
`15:21.35`	`Aetos`	`just hire a prostitute`
`15:21.37`	`Twiner`	`its not something that can be forced`
`15:21.52`	`Twiner`	`you know how I got out of my depression`
`15:21.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`lul`
`15:21.56`	`Twiner`	`I accidently got my girlfriend pregant`
`15:22.00`	`Twiner`	`had a baby`
`15:22.03`	`Mirvra`	`no it cant! but you can atleast get ppl to think ''hey... maybe if i try getting over it instead of just sitting here?'' -.-`
`15:22.04`	`Twiner`	`realized how amazing it was`
`15:22.06`	`Twiner`	`and got married`
`15:22.27`	`Aetos`	`so`
`15:22.38`	`Aetos`	`IskatuMesk has to find a prostitute, get her pregnant, ??? , no more depression?`
`15:22.48`	`Mirvra`	`...`
`15:22.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`15:22.55`	`Twiner`	`lol, I don't think its quite that simple :p`
`15:23.00`	`Aetos`	`oh`
`15:23.06`	`Demonette`	`I think Twiner had just luck oO`
`15:23.08`	`SycoPrime`	`IskatuMesk has to find the catalyst that changes his perspective.`
`15:23.16`	`Twiner`	`escaping depression is an epiphany you have someday`
`15:23.17`	`Aetos`	`catalyst? go to a chemistry lab`
`15:23.19`	`Aetos`	`they have many`
`15:23.29`	`Twiner`	`of course, if you don't do anything with your life you will never escape it`
`15:23.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`my sister definitely though that was the way out, now she's having fun with some wigger who's 8 years older than her and jailed for beating some other woman`
`15:23.32`	`Twiner`	`you have to find new things`
`15:23.33`	`Demonette`	`Aetos you aren't very helpful...`
`15:23.37`	`Aetos`	`well`
`15:23.41`	`Aetos`	`I made IskatuMesk laugh :p`
`15:23.44`	`Aetos`	`it's more than you guys have done`
`15:23.51`	`Demonette`	`you made him lol...`
`15:23.59`	`Aetos`	`and thats a sign of amusement :p`
`15:24.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`btw`
`15:24.03`	`Aetos`	`or disappointment`
`15:24.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`you guys are all saying things I heard of 8 years ago`
`15:24.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`so believe me, been said and done`
`15:24.15`	`*** join/#sc2mapster newbie1 (~ckknight@69.73.16.202)`
`15:24.22`	`Twiner`	`how old are you if I may ask`
`15:24.23`	`Mirvra`	`yeah and ppl are gonna keep saying it probably`
`15:24.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`23`
`15:24.31`	`Mirvra`	`................`
`15:24.39`	`Twiner`	`ah you still got some growing in ya`
`15:24.44`	`Twiner`	`you in college?`
`15:24.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`no`
`15:24.50`	`Demonette`	`...`
`15:24.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`dropped out in grade 11`
`15:24.54`	`Aetos`	`23? damn, you're just 1 year older than me`
`15:24.58`	`Twiner`	`also, I understand the douchebag way older boyfriend/husband`
`15:25.06`	`Twiner`	`my sister is in the same situ`
`15:25.14`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Kevin@149-169-133-69.nat.asu.edu)`
`15:25.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`meh, my sister is not even family in my eyes`
`15:25.19`	`Twiner`	`dumbass mic cares only about his ipod and ipad`
`15:25.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`my sister deserves the fate she has willingly chosen`
`15:25.39`	`Aetos`	`ipad? that instantly makes him a dumbass :p`
`15:26.23`	`Twiner`	`I'm barely even paying attention to this desert strike game`
`15:26.30`	`Twiner`	`I think I'm winning...`
`15:26.30`	`Aetos`	`lol`
`15:26.53`	`Demonette`	`which fate was chosen?`
`15:27.02`	`Aetos`	`I once played a 3v3 desert strike where one of my friends idled the whole game.. he came back with 70,000 minerals and proceeded to steamroll the enemy`
`15:27.03`	`Demonette`	`by her...`
`15:27.03`	`Twiner`	`IskatuMesk: all I have to say is, 23 is young, you have a lot of life ahead of you, things changes, thats how it is`
`15:27.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`she chose to be a whore and a liar and a drug addict`
`15:27.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`now she pays the price`
`15:27.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`at the age of 23 I have lived most of my natural life already`
`15:27.34`	`Aetos`	`...`
`15:27.35`	`Aetos`	`wtf?`
`15:27.39`	`C-H`	`bull`
`15:27.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`because I am going insane`
`15:27.53`	`Aetos`	`im 22 and I barely think I've lived,lol`
`15:27.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`the older I get the worse my mentality becomes`
`15:28.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`too much to describe in passing`
`15:28.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`I can't do things today that I used to be able to do a year ago, and can't dream of doing things I could do 5 years ago`
`15:28.39`	`Demonette`	`mmmhh...`
`15:28.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`heart failure is imminent as well`
`15:28.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`or suicide`
`15:28.55`	`Demonette`	`well i would have a lot of question not so sure if here is a very good place...`
`15:29.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`which I've already attempted 3 times this year`
`15:29.15`	`Demonette`	`but what happend?`
`15:29.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`once was an overdose on HTP-5 to incite a stroke, all that did was burn the inside of my stomach`
`15:29.32`	`Demonette`	`what's with the rest of your family for example...`
`15:29.47`	`Demonette`	`Mmmh`
`15:30.00`	`Mirvra`	`.....`
`15:30.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`father? never seen his face in my life or I'd gut him. He's a convict and is a bad bloodline. Mother? deranged bitch, turned other "family" on me, responsible for a lot of bullshit. I'd gut her too had I the chance`
`15:30.37`	`Mirvra`	`23 year old... trying to kill himself... cause he's convinced his life sucks and he'll die anyway.....`
`15:30.47`	`Demonette`	`so you live alone?`
`15:30.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`why do I even bother mentioning these things`
`15:30.59`	`Demonette`	`for mmmhh a lot of years`
`15:31.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`when people just jump to random conclusions`
`15:31.05`	`Mirvra`	`becuase you wanna talk about it?`
`15:31.15`	`SycoPrime`	`Excellent question. And Mirvra beat me to the point.`
`15:31.30`	`Demonette`	`I haven't mentioned any conclusion jet...`
`15:31.39`	`Mirvra`	`which point?`
`15:31.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`if I talk about these things I do it in the hope individuals won't just go LOL IT ISN'T AS BAD AS YOU THINK IT IS`
`15:31.45`	`Mirvra`	`i'm kinda loosing track atm..`
`15:32.00`	`Demonette`	`I don't lol at the moment....`
`15:32.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`because all that says to me is that people are stereotyping what I'm saying, and not listening to me`
`15:32.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`and that pisses me right the fuck off`
`15:32.26`	`Mirvra`	`oh hey we got you mad...`
`15:32.29`	`Xaragoth`	`got a great idea for a tournament price`
`15:32.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'm always mad`
`15:32.41`	`Mirvra`	`how fun -.-`
`15:32.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`just listen to any of my commentaries`
`15:33.00`	`Demonette`	`I am...`
`15:33.08`	`Tinman`	`its 5:30 already`
`15:33.08`	`Xaragoth`	`the winner of a catalyst tournament gets Mirv and Demonette to do their bidding for a day! great deal! :O`
`15:33.21`	`Demonette`	`Fuck you xara`
`15:33.30`	`Demonette`	`at the moment i'm not amused`
`15:33.33`	`Xaragoth`	`that is anatomical impossible`
`15:33.34`	`Tinman`	`I need to see if everything works >_>`
`15:33.37`	`Mirvra`	`i agree with Demonette`
`15:33.59`	`Mirvra`	`nor am i amused atm...`
`15:34.03`	`Mirvra`	`which is uncommon`
`15:34.15`	`SycoPrime`	`IskatuMesk: But it's EXACTLY as bad as you think it is. The thought is what determines your situation. The world will be exactly the same whether you think it's gloom and doom or sunshine and roses.`
`15:34.20`	`Tinman`	`You will be amused in about 30 min!`
`15:34.38`	`Xaragoth`	`I doubt that Tinman.`
`15:34.54`	`Mirvra`	`oh yeah Xara keeps saying there will be no Cl today`
`15:35.02`	`Mirvra`	`or something`
`15:35.04`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh`
`15:35.13`	`Tinman`	`Why is that`
`15:35.26`	`Tinman`	`I decide if there is a show or not`
`15:35.36`	`Mirvra`	`oh and what SycoPrime said is true`
`15:36.03`	`Demonette`	`So you decided to doesn't say more stuff IskatuMesk ?`
`15:36.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`SycoPrime > I've watched everything I ever loved and enjoyed burn to ruin in my hands and die in my arms, I've watched virtually everything I've ever attempted to fail and yet younger individuals stride further and faster in all walks I vie for with ease and grace. I've watched all of my dreams crumble to ruin because I am incapable of evolving past a 10-year evolutionary dead-end. All that I know in the physical world is dead`
`15:36.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`I find no respite in dreams, I find no respite in silence`
`15:36.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`I do what I do to pass time for the inevitable`
`15:36.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`I cannot find true enjoyment or even a stable feeling of content in anything I do, even generic things like attempting to play games`
`15:36.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Terin (~Terin@dhcp-vlan3242-31-172.wireless.uic.edu)`
`15:37.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`for I am constantly reminded of twenty-three years, every single day, that this has endured`
`15:37.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`and that every day will always be the same, and has always been the same, in the infinite spiral downwards`
`15:37.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`it is not that I am depressed`
`15:37.32`	`Mirvra`	`then put a break to it -.-`
`15:37.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`depression is a side effect of the real problems`
`15:37.50`	`Demonette`	`Quite Mirvra... let him talk first`
`15:37.59`	`Mirvra`	`quiet*`
`15:38.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have immense physical pain in the sides and back of my head from the stress day in and out`
`15:38.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`the stress of simply trying to control my own thoughts, to stabilize them to a point where I can try to focus on something, anything`
`15:38.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`even something as simple as speech is rendered difficult and trying, you'll notice in my commentaries I often stumble over wordsand such`
`15:38.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`as I grow older the effects of psychosis become more prominent, and I am at the prime age for the major effects to take hold`
`15:39.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`audiatory hallucinations are common now, but I have had visual ones when I close my eyes for many years`
`15:39.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`it is from my dreams I gather the images of my worlds and my writing`
`15:39.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`it is a double-edged blade`
`15:39.34`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RodOfGDI (~RodOfNOD@pool-71-112-197-158.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net)`
`15:40.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`to know that you have an infinite imagination and yet will never be able to wield the power to harness it is a curse you may not consider so grand`
`15:40.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`until you live with it for all your life`
`15:40.17`	`Mirvra`	`oooh`
`15:40.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`and you attempt everything else and realize you were simply not programmed to do things the way other people do them`
`15:40.27`	`SycoPrime`	`And it's great that you're writing it down. Does that help at all to diminish the strength of it?`
`15:40.30`	`Mirvra`	`you think you're the only one with an entire fucking universe in your head? -.-`
`15:40.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`no`
`15:40.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have written a hundred such rants`
`15:40.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`my universe is not in my head, my dear`
`15:40.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`I live within it`
`15:41.02`	`Demonette`	`yes...`
`15:41.06`	`RodOfGDI`	`philosophy?`
`15:41.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have become distant from the physical world to the point that I no longer see it as the real world anymore`
`15:41.13`	`Mirvra`	`depression`
`15:41.17`	`Demonette`	`i think you're universe keeps you alive... at the moment...`
`15:41.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`because I loathe the world and all things within it`
`15:41.26`	`Demonette`	`your universe...`
`15:41.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`I loathe waking up and I loathe breathing, I often forget to breathe because of this`
`15:41.33`	`SycoPrime`	`And yet you still acknowledge it for what it is.`
`15:41.37`	`RodOfGDI`	`lol`
`15:41.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`because I know that it is an illusion`
`15:41.49`	`Demonette`	`mmmhhh`
`15:41.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`and it is dying as I am`
`15:41.57`	`Jum-Jum`	`I'm here now SycoPrime`
`15:42.04`	`Demonette`	`everything will die in the end...`
`15:42.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`15:42.29`	`Demonette`	`so doesn't matter if an illusion or not...`
`15:42.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`unless the religions of the world are right then not everything will die`
`15:42.47`	`Demonette`	`Lol`
`15:42.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`I used to be religious but no more`
`15:43.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`for the last 8 years I have lived for only one purpose`
`15:43.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`to finish my novel Throne of Armageddon`
`15:43.15`	`Demonette`	`Mmhh`
`15:43.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`and I have worked all these years and longer yet to fight for that dream`
`15:43.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`it stands at 1300 pages right now, but most of it needs major revising`
`15:43.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`that is halfway completed`
`15:43.39`	`Demonette`	`Do you think you will be able to finish your universe within a life?`
`15:43.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`only about 1/8 of that time has actually been spent actively progressing to that goal`
`15:43.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`no`
`15:43.51`	`SycoPrime`	`And what is it that keeps you from workin on it?`
`15:43.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`my life will be over soon and I've lost the ability to evolve the world`
`15:43.59`	`Xenrathe`	`lol`
`15:44.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`SycoPrime > many things`
`15:44.12`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (~zoxc@ti0128a380-dhcp0073.bb.online.no)`
`15:44.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`understand that I can't do things the way you can`
`15:44.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`sounds like my zork mod been wanting to do it for 20 years but never have truely finished it :P`
`15:44.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`if someone wants to write they think of something and sit down and write it`
`15:44.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`but I can't do that`
`15:44.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`if I sit down to do something I stare at it blankly and my brain literally shuts down and turns into noise`
`15:44.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`such happens when I try to learn things`
`15:44.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`but you are sitting down right now and writing`
`15:45.01`	`Xenrathe`	`lol`
`15:45.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`even if I perform an operation of some kind it doesn't register`
`15:45.02`	`Demonette`	`Noone really can just sit down and write...`
`15:45.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`and nothing actually happens`
`15:45.10`	`Xenrathe`	`Yes they can Demonette`
`15:45.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`sure they can. Many people do`
`15:45.17`	`Xenrathe`	`That's what professional writers do`
`15:45.20`	`Xenrathe`	`It's called establishing a routine`
`15:45.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`yep`
`15:45.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`they force themselves to do it`
`15:45.30`	`Mirvra`	`not everyone's a professional writer though`
`15:45.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`true that`
`15:45.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster tordy (81316458@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.49.100.88)`
`15:45.40`	`tordy`	`think about it bro`
`15:45.40`	`SycoPrime`	`I, for one, have the same problem, IskatuMesk.`
`15:45.44`	`Demonette`	`But they create a thing`
`15:45.45`	`Demonette`	`a book`
`15:45.45`	`Xaragoth`	`its like every professional on every job`
`15:45.48`	`Xaragoth`	`you just sit down`
`15:45.49`	`Demonette`	`and not a world`
`15:45.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`but I have always believe that if a person is strong willed they can do anything they desire`
`15:45.51`	`Demonette`	`....`
`15:45.51`	`Xaragoth`	`and do your work`
`15:45.56`	`SycoPrime`	`You can't force creativity. You can write crap, but you can't force yourself to transcribe that stuff.`
`15:45.57`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Helral (~BenZegvel@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl)`
`15:46.15`	`RodOfNOD`	`can they leap 200 feet because they think they can?`
`15:46.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`creativity is easy`
`15:46.18`	`Demonette`	`worlds need time to grow`
`15:46.20`	`Helral`	`meows`
`15:46.24`	`Demonette`	`yey`
`15:46.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`hey Helral`
`15:46.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`I can flick my wrist and come up with whatever I desire`
`15:46.28`	`Demonette`	`but it will take time`
`15:46.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`but I cannot translate it into words`
`15:46.33`	`SycoPrime`	`Hey helral.`
`15:46.35`	`Xenrathe`	`Writing a book (or any other major work) is largely a work of -effort-`
`15:46.40`	`Helral`	`you lot missed me?`
`15:46.45`	`SycoPrime`	`Yes.`
`15:46.58`	`Helral`	`why?`
`15:47.00`	`Helral`	`:P`
`15:47.00`	`Xenrathe`	`That's what non-writers think, that we writers just magically spin this wonderful story from thin air`
`15:47.14`	`Xenrathe`	`Most of the work comes in editing, not in the initial creation`
`15:47.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`Xenrathe > for me the effort comes directly from the form of translation`
`15:47.25`	`Xenrathe`	`Initial creation sucks ass, for everyone`
`15:47.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`like a sc2 mod Xenrathe :P`
`15:47.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`I visualize all things as sound, waves of motion so to say`
`15:47.40`	`Demonette`	`Yey... as i said... they just can't simply sit down and write. xenrathe`
`15:47.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`to translate stuff in my head into words is a physically trying effort`
`15:47.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`i find inital creation to be the fun part myself`
`15:47.47`	`Xaragoth`	`Development is the same btw. You don't go and tell your producer "yeah, we will have that GDD when I got the lightbulb over my head". You just the fuck sit down and do your job, you can finetune over the next 2 years :p`
`15:47.49`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Araxnid (Araxnid@home-pool-175-62.com2com.ru)`
`15:47.53`	`SycoPrime`	`IskatuMesk: You're right, it's a matter of effort and focus. But, I'm sorry, I refuse to believe that you're so different from everyone else. At worst, your chemistry may be off, but you're still the same DNA, give or take a few variations.`
`15:48.00`	`Xenrathe`	`Iskatu, you sound high on melancholy`
`15:48.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`shrug`
`15:48.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`I cannot convince you of things you cannot see with your own eyes`
`15:48.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`it is futile to try`
`15:48.19`	`Aetos`	`oh wow, I was thinking why nobody on sc2mapster is talking`
`15:48.26`	`Aetos`	`I just realized I was scrolled up`
`15:48.32`	`Mirvra`	`...`
`15:48.37`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh`
`15:48.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`the fact is i have to believe one thing thatis a fact to me, the universe was made for me, ihave to believe this because wheni wake up itsME`
`15:48.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`I am just reciting to you what is happening`
`15:48.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`take it or leave it`
`15:49.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`hehe Aetos`
`15:49.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`my genetics are fucked up from bad bloodlines and parents who were into substance abuse`
`15:49.08`	`Mirvra`	`why are WE given a choice? <.<`
`15:49.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`there is no one way to go about calling it this or that`
`15:49.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`choice is an illusion`
`15:49.31`	`Demonette`	`what you have with that bloodline stuff?`
`15:49.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`all I know is that what I face is a very real entity`
`15:49.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`they are retarded.`
`15:49.58`	`Demonette`	`is it cause of your parents?`
`15:50.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`see above`
`15:50.05`	`Mirvra`	`...`
`15:50.05`	`Mirvra`	`demonette...`
`15:50.13`	`Mirvra`	`you'n me are gonna have a talk someday -.-`
`15:50.24`	`Demonette`	`about?`
`15:50.26`	`Aetos`	`choice isn't an illusion =/`
`15:50.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`the whole bloodline is fucked up on my mother's side, all I know about my dad is that he's a drug addict and a convict and right now he's hiding in the bush in some mountain`
`15:50.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`and I've never seen his face`
`15:51.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`and you ain't gonne get Einstein from a matchup like that bro`
`15:51.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`nope, just a whole lotta fail`
`15:51.24`	`Demonette`	`In which country do you live?`
`15:51.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`canuckistan`
`15:51.30`	`C-H`	`einstein failed at math...`
`15:51.43`	`Mirvra`	`why whould you need an Einstein though? O.o;;`
`15:51.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`aka the country where our mental health jumps ship at the slightest hint of having to put effort into something`
`15:51.58`	`SycoPrime`	`I live in America too!`
`15:51.59`	`Xaragoth`	`(17:51:32) (C-H) einstein failed at math... <- it was all about the socks.`
`15:52.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`maybe if I were Einstein I could do something simple like learn something`
`15:52.09`	`Mirvra`	`oh and yeah einstein wasent flawless`
`15:52.17`	`Aetos`	`lmao SycoPrime`
`15:52.28`	`Mirvra`	`Mesk... are you writing atm?`
`15:52.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`I haven't written in over half a year`
`15:52.45`	`Mirvra`	`cause i'm pretty sure you had to learn how to use the keyboard ((i meant typing atm))`
`15:52.52`	`Aetos`	`and learn english`
`15:52.53`	`Aetos`	`and grammar`
`15:52.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`I type with two fingers`
`15:52.57`	`Aetos`	`etc`
`15:53.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`and I learned English from, you guessed it, the internet`
`15:53.09`	`Aetos`	`so you learned`
`15:53.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`and as a result my English is terrible`
`15:53.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`yep`
`15:53.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`ten years ago`
`15:53.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`when I was young and brash and handsome`
`15:53.20`	`Mirvra`	`omg did you know what? school english SUCKS`
`15:53.31`	`Aetos`	`well, your english is better then 80% of the internet`
`15:53.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`actually no I was never handsome`
`15:53.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`just young and brash`
`15:53.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Xackery (~Xackery@ip72-193-57-227.lv.lv.cox.net)`
`15:53.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes that is an unfortunate fact`
`15:53.43`	`Xenrathe`	`*better than`
`15:53.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`and it makes me very sads`
`15:53.48`	`Mirvra`	`no one in my class in school was handsome -.-`
`15:53.53`	`Aetos`	`lol Xenrathe`
`15:54.03`	`Xenrathe`	`*the English of 80% of internet-users`
`15:54.07`	`Xenrathe`	`(otherwise its an illogical comparison)`
`15:54.20`	`Aetos`	`I don't care to type proper on the internet :p`
`15:54.35`	`Xenrathe`	`Technically speaking, it's not your typing that was improper`
`15:54.36`	`Demonette`	`can you scratch those gramma english stuff at the moment?`
`15:54.46`	`Aetos`	`I mean grammar, vocabulary usage, everything`
`15:54.55`	`Mirvra`	`hell in my class there was a guy that dident do anything else during the days then draw cats...`
`15:54.55`	`Xenrathe`	`Also that should be type properly`
`15:54.57`	`Mirvra`	`badely drawn cats <.<;;`
`15:55.05`	`Xenrathe`	`since that should be an adverb, not an adjective`
`15:55.12`	`Aetos`	`my internet voice pales in comparison to my actual writing :p`
`15:55.13`	`Helral`	`meow`
`15:55.24`	`Mirvra`	`and why are you two on about grammar? O.o;;`
`15:55.32`	`Demonette`	`What are you doing at the moment Mesk?`
`15:55.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`grabs the cat and stuffs him into the food processor!`
`15:55.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`When I wrote I always felt the limits of my English`
`15:55.40`	`Aetos`	`sweet`
`15:55.42`	`Xenrathe`	`Haha I'm just playing with you - I wanted to distract us all from the ah..`
`15:55.42`	`Aetos`	`chinese food`
`15:55.44`	`Xenrathe`	`elephant in the room`
`15:55.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`my vocabulary is terrible and constrictive`
`15:55.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`Demonette > absolutely nothing, the same thing I've been doing all year`
`15:55.55`	`Aetos`	`RodOfNOD, give me some of that chinese food`
`15:56.07`	`Xenrathe`	`use a thesaurus Mesk, that's what Mrs. Twilight did, and she's mad rich now`
`15:56.08`	`SycoPrime`	`IskatuMesk: Is english your "native" tongue?`
`15:56.08`	`tordy`	`why`
`15:56.08`	`RodOfNOD`	`hands Aetos a big glob of fur`
`15:56.09`	`tordy`	`man`
`15:56.09`	`tordy`	`cmon`
`15:56.12`	`tordy`	`alrihgt`
`15:56.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`SycoPrime > yes`
`15:56.18`	`tordy`	`so any new discoveries`
`15:56.18`	`Demonette`	`but you done your models while those years...`
`15:56.27`	`tordy`	`so any new discoveries in the map editor from patch 1.1`
`15:56.33`	`Aetos`	`IskatuMesk, just from seeing you write on irc. I bet your vocabulary is better than most college students...`
`15:56.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`crappy models compared to what a person with my experience should be able to do`
`15:56.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`thus I do not count them`
`15:56.49`	`Helral`	`swipes Aetos when he receives that big glob of fur. the claw extending from the fur glob.`
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`15:56.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`that's because college students spend all day getting drunk and sleeping with cheap blondes`
`15:56.52`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh`
`15:56.56`	`Mirvra`	`oh for fucks sake..`
`15:57.09`	`Mirvra`	`you're good at something..`
`15:57.15`	`Aetos`	`cheap blondes? nah`
`15:57.17`	`Aetos`	`brunettes :p`
`15:57.23`	`SycoPrime`	`IskatuMesk: Not true. I've had a hard time getting some of the cheap blondes to sleep with other cheap blondes.`
`15:57.24`	`Xaragoth`	`cheap is no fun`
`15:57.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`why be picky all hair is good`
`15:57.29`	`Mirvra`	`and yet you dimish it becuase you think you chould be better?`
`15:57.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`15:57.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://www.campaigncreations.org/blog/blog.php?u=1687&b=7`
`15:57.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`go read that before making any more comments on this discussion`
`15:57.42`	`Aetos`	`lol SycoPrime`
`15:57.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`I posted that a while ago before shit really hit the fan`
`15:58.42`	`Demonette`	`mmmhhh`
`15:59.05`	`Aetos`	`oooo, pretty pictures`
`15:59.14`	`Demonette`	`What would be your experience worthy?`
`15:59.28`	`Demonette`	`What would be good enough?`
`15:59.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`ten years of modeling? I should be making blizzard level stuff right now`
`15:59.45`	`Demonette`	`compair to the time you spend on it`
`15:59.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`or at least very close`
`16:00.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`ten years of writing? I should have finish the whole set of TOA books`
`16:00.11`	`Aetos`	`IskatuMesk, you're 23 and haven't even gone to school for modeling.. I would say you're doing pretty good.. =/`
`16:00.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`composing? Maybe I'd actually have learned how to make a melody`
`16:00.14`	`Xaragoth`	`you should actually be doing crysis level stuff with 10 years of exp`
`16:00.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`everyone I know who does 3d is self-taught`
`16:00.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`and infinitely superior to me`
`16:00.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`usually with 1/4 the experience`
`16:00.46`	`Aetos`	`is that through your own eyes, or from others comments?`
`16:00.47`	`nicoli_s`	`IskatuMesk:i used to do 3d and i dont think im infinitely superior`
`16:00.48`	`Demonette`	`But you don't just model, write and compose....`
`16:00.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`but you know why I can't do that?`
`16:00.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`because I can't evolve`
`16:00.57`	`nicoli_s`	`all i could ever do was boxmodelling, but i did that for like 5 years`
`16:01.09`	`Aetos`	`People usually think their own creations suck compared to others... =/`
`16:01.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`I was box modeling in 2002`
`16:01.18`	`Aetos`	`same nicoli_s.. i've tried to start modeling countless times`
`16:01.24`	`Aetos`	`I've always given up because I suck at it`
`16:01.37`	`nicoli_s`	`i wish i still had my sc models i did for project revolution, the models im most produ of`
`16:01.38`	`Aetos`	`im just not artistic :(`
`16:01.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`in my opinion any one of you, had you the motivation I used to have, could become a great modeler in 5-6 months tops`
`16:01.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`and you could best my best work`
`16:01.54`	`tordy`	`aight people`
`16:01.54`	`Aetos`	`trust me, I couldn't IskatuMesk`
`16:01.59`	`Aetos`	`my art skills are terrible`
`16:02.12`	`Xaragoth`	`its not that hard to make good models`
`16:02.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`as I said, if you had the motivation`
`16:02.17`	`tordy`	`you were involved in project revolution?`
`16:02.18`	`Xaragoth`	`its just a lot of time going into it`
`16:02.21`	`Aetos`	`Its not motivation`
`16:02.24`	`Aetos`	`I just suck at artsy things,lol`
`16:02.27`	`tordy`	`cool`
`16:02.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`it is`
`16:02.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`if you have motivation and no distortion in your mind you can do anything`
`16:02.40`	`Xaragoth`	`awell, Aetos, I suck as drawing`
`16:02.42`	`nicoli_s`	`tordy:yeah`
`16:02.44`	`Xaragoth`	`look at my terrain`
`16:02.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`because motivation drives your will to learn and understand`
`16:02.47`	`Xaragoth`	`still art :`
`16:02.47`	`Xaragoth`	`:p`
`16:02.51`	`Xenrathe`	`Well I have great distortion in my mind`
`16:02.55`	`Araxnid`	`what programma saving files in dss?`
`16:03.00`	`Aetos`	`but, you will still suck at some things`
`16:03.01`	`Xenrathe`	`However I have learned to harness it as a psychic weapon and now I use it to blow up cars`
`16:03.04`	`Xaragoth`	`photoshop Araxnid`
`16:03.09`	`Aetos`	`theres people that can't keep musical timnig for shit no matter how much they practice`
`16:03.09`	`nicoli_s`	`Araxnid:the GIMP will with a plugin`
`16:03.11`	`Araxnid`	`oh god damn it..`
`16:03.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`Xenrathe > please use it to obliterate my neighbor's small white dog`
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`16:03.27`	`Aetos`	`it only works on cars`
`16:03.37`	`Xaragoth`	`I want a Zergling as my pet`
`16:03.42`	`Xaragoth`	`I could feed it children.`
`16:03.45`	`Aetos`	`lol`
`16:04.00`	`Araxnid`	`he can eat you xD`
`16:04.01`	`Aetos`	`I would like a colossus`
`16:04.05`	`Xaragoth`	`he won't`
`16:04.09`	`Xaragoth`	`he'd be a good ling`
`16:04.14`	`Xaragoth`	`or else it gets the shotgun.`
`16:04.19`	`Aetos`	`until he transforms into a baneling`
`16:04.22`	`Aetos`	`and your house goes boom`
`16:05.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`I felt that my strongest talent was creating something with very little, but it was always still something little, never complete or worthy of anything past a passing glance`
`16:05.03`	`Skizot`	`heya nic`
`16:05.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`and because it was never complete it was never worthy of rememberance`
`16:05.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`I treated all things as stepping stones to a greater understanding, but I never learned anything`
`16:05.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes, over 8 years of writing I improved, but not by much`
`16:05.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`I could not learn by example or by tutorial`
`16:06.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`or even by doing things step by step with video assets`
`16:06.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's not something I can even describe to you in words for I know not the words to describe it`
`16:06.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`but it becomes physically painful to try to do things like models`
`16:06.43`	`Xenrathe`	`Iskatu you are so clearly bipolar; if you didn't have such delusions of grandeur, you wouldn't crash like this all the time`
`16:06.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`you know the silly saying don't think too hard or you'll hurt yourself?`
`16:06.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`well that's very real for me`
`16:07.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`they thought I had bipolar`
`16:07.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`then thought I had aspergers`
`16:07.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`then autism`
`16:07.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have no real diagnosis because mental health jumped ship`
`16:07.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`all I know is that I have traits of high functioning autism, schizophrenia, bipolar, and as a result of all of this and environmental conditioning chronic depression to boot`
`16:07.47`	`SycoPrime`	`Lol, "and because it was never complete it was never worthy of rememberance". And yet Sixen remembered you for EIGHT YEARS.`
`16:07.54`	`SycoPrime`	`And I garuntee he's not the only one.`
`16:08.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`he was a part of the community most likely so yes I tried my best back then to make big statements`
`16:08.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`before realizing how much of a fool I was making out of myself`
`16:08.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`but that was a lesson I needed to learn I think`
`16:08.46`	`Skizot`	`nicoli_s`
`16:08.51`	`Skizot`	`which models did you do?`
`16:08.54`	`SycoPrime`	`Well, I've seen two arguments on that point so far. Him saying you're a modding badass, and you saying you're a fool. I'mma go with him.`
`16:08.55`	`Skizot`	`i MIGHT have them.`
`16:09.20`	`Mirvra`	`so..`
`16:09.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`Consider SycoPrime that out of two dozen Starcraft projects I have attempted only two ever reached actual tangible completion`
`16:09.33`	`Mirvra`	`making things that ppl commented on and liked.... was bad?`
`16:09.55`	`Mirvra`	`and instead you choose to make things for yourself... and never be satisfied with the stuff you make..?`
`16:10.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`most people in the wc3 community were quick to criticize these failures when it came to myself making statements about sc2's editor`
`16:10.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`I would say that it was a manner of trial and error to learn and improve but really I have not improved`
`16:10.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`if that doesn't make me a fool then what does it make me?`
`16:10.54`	`C-H`	`smarter for you now know what you didnt know before`
`16:10.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`I think it is a manner of pride conflicting with logic`
`16:11.03`	`Aetos`	`ZOMG`
`16:11.05`	`Aetos`	`civ 5 is out`
`16:11.05`	`Mirvra`	`i think we have diffrent definations of a fool...`
`16:11.42`	`tordy`	`you're late`
`16:11.52`	`SycoPrime`	`I think that your standards are too high.`
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`16:12.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`people have said that too`
`16:12.30`	`SycoPrime`	`1) It's the internet. Not everyone is going to like what you're doing. Some people will argue for the sake of arguing. You said we couldn't say anything to hurt you, but you're putting way too much "give a shit" into the comments of what are essentially strangers.`
`16:12.49`	`Aetos`	`internet is for trolls`
`16:12.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`well you haven't seen the arguments I've had with people`
`16:13.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`so the latter comment is speculation`
`16:13.07`	`SycoPrime`	`2) Your models aren't as good as what Blizzard does? Please, Blizzard has a modeling team with multiple people and organization. And they still fuck up in some way with EVERYTHING. Everyone does. Being flawed is being human.`
`16:13.10`	`newbie1`	`Civ 5 is pretty fun`
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`16:13.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`I can name off the top of my head at least three people I know very well who can produce commercial-quality, and one of them blizzard quality, graphic assets with less than 1/4 of my working ecperience`
`16:14.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`and who have had other things to do in their life than I`
`16:14.23`	`SycoPrime`	`And those things they have to do, believe it or not, actually motivate them.`
`16:14.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`nay, I could not produce something to compare to Blizzard's raw resources, but I should know much more than I do`
`16:14.46`	`SycoPrime`	`You're never going to make something as good as what it is in your head. Product will always be imperfect as compared to idea.`
`16:14.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`and if you cannot even start?`
`16:15.13`	`SycoPrime`	`But you have started.`
`16:15.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`not really`
`16:15.31`	`SycoPrime`	`Yes. A dozen times over.`
`16:15.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`your logic eludes me sir`
`16:15.59`	`Mirvra`	`...`
`16:16.04`	`SycoPrime`	`I've been reading this post of yours. I haven't finished it yet, but so far you have innumerable projects.`
`16:16.11`	`Aetos`	`so, you never started a model?`
`16:16.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`innumerable dead projects, sure`
`16:16.15`	`Mirvra`	`you mean your writing and models and stuff were never ''started''? -.-`
`16:16.25`	`Mirvra`	`but they were STARTED`
`16:16.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`started and doomed to failure`
`16:16.41`	`Aetos`	`I barely finish anything I start either,lol`
`16:16.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`so what do they count for?`
`16:16.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`eh a lot of people seem to have that problem`
`16:16.51`	`Mirvra`	`why the fuck are they doomed? O.o`
`16:16.55`	`SycoPrime`	`How many paintings do you think Michaelangelo threw away?`
`16:16.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`it comes down to motivation, neh?`
`16:17.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`because I burn out in an instant`
`16:17.07`	`SycoPrime`	`You know where Star Trek came from?`
`16:17.08`	`Aetos`	`It doesn't mean Im gonna stop.. I have fun doing it, learning, etc.`
`16:17.18`	`Aetos`	`from a failed 2-3 season show? lol`
`16:17.18`	`SycoPrime`	`A junk drawer.`
`16:18.06`	`SycoPrime`	`The original concept for one of the most popular science fiction universes of all time was in a junk drawer. Roddenberry died, and his wife said "I'll bet I can sell this for some petty cash". He left it there because he thought it wasn't good enough.`
`16:18.45`	`Aetos`	`wait, what?`
`16:18.50`	`Aetos`	`roddenberry was aliver for startrek`
`16:18.51`	`Aetos`	`=/`
`16:18.59`	`Aetos`	`up until the next generation`
`16:19.18`	`SycoPrime`	`Then I probably got him confused with asimov or something. Reference fail.`
`16:19.30`	`SycoPrime`	`My head has been fucked up all morning, I made my coffee way too strong.`
`16:19.38`	`Aetos`	`he lived until I think the 1st or 2nd of the next generation`
`16:19.43`	`SycoPrime`	`I feel like there was reefer in it or something.`
`16:19.44`	`Aetos`	`way after the original series and movies`
`16:20.27`	`Mirvra`	`.... focus ppl`
`16:20.50`	`SycoPrime`	`Also, you're guilting yourself. Saying "I should be able to do more with the time invested" is just adding insult to injury. Just because other people, "normal" people even have the ability to learn this stuff in less time doesn't make you any worse, it just means that your focus isn't yet on your skillset.`
`16:21.16`	`Mirvra`	`^`
`16:21.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`but if I cannot develope focus in ten years, even when my will and motivation was strong, what can I do now?`
`16:22.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`what I have is irrepairable damage`
`16:22.08`	`SycoPrime`	`It's like I said before, the world is exactly as bad as you think it is. If you keep insisting "I'm not good at anything", then you won't be. I know turning that around isn't as simple as stopping and saying "I'm not half bad at this" but believe it or not, there ARE things you are talented at.`
`16:22.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`damage I am unable to work around`
`16:22.29`	`SycoPrime`	`Bach was deaf. He still made music.`
`16:22.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`no... I know there are things I can do, but they do not contribute to things`
`16:22.56`	`Xenrathe`	`Syco, you might be referring to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kennedy_Toole`
`16:23.20`	`Xenrathe`	`Who won a Pultizer posthumously (after he committed suicide)`
`16:23.29`	`RodOfNOD`	`i dont think bach was deaf`
`16:23.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`i think it was beethoven`
`16:23.38`	`Xenrathe`	`Me either lol`
`16:23.42`	`Aetos`	`lol`
`16:23.43`	`SycoPrime`	`Xeranthe, /you're/ a toole.`
`16:23.50`	`Xenrathe`	`^`
`16:23.53`	`SycoPrime`	`Okay, so it was bethoven.`
`16:23.54`	`C-H`	`toole is a county in Utah`
`16:24.12`	`SycoPrime`	`I'm not trying to teach history, just make a point.`
`16:24.55`	`SycoPrime`	`Although I'm doing a pretty good job of making myself look like an idiot.`
`16:24.58`	`Xenrathe`	`Anyone here know about ballistic movers?`
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`16:27.34`	`SycoPrime`	`Hah. Still reading that post on campaigncreations. "I will never, ever be able to create something that looks half as good as this" You think that stupid dragon thing looks better than your battlecruiser-class ships?`
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`16:28.18`	`Aetos`	`The battlecruiser has a lot more creativity in it then a dragon..`
`16:28.39`	`Aetos`	`"oh I know, let me copy a dragon that has been modeled 50000x times"`
`16:29.23`	`Xaragoth`	`actually`
`16:29.28`	`Xaragoth`	`the dragon is from lineage`
`16:29.30`	`Xaragoth`	`so, yeah`
`16:29.31`	`Aetos`	`I know`
`16:29.35`	`Aetos`	`but.. its a dragon`
`16:29.35`	`Aetos`	`lol`
`16:29.36`	`SycoPrime`	`Ugh, wrong again. Blizzard gave up voice actors because SAG fags made them.`
`16:29.40`	`Xaragoth`	`it has axe-wings aetos`
`16:29.44`	`Xaragoth`	`don't doubt the axe-wings.`
`16:29.47`	`Aetos`	`so? lol`
`16:29.54`	`Xaragoth`	`also`
`16:29.54`	`Aetos`	`its still a dragon`
`16:30.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`SAG?`
`16:30.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`what do u mean gave up voice actors?`
`16:30.08`	`SycoPrime`	`Screen Actors Guild.`
`16:30.08`	`RodOfNOD`	`its the union`
`16:30.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`for entertainers`
`16:30.12`	`Xaragoth`	`I just found out that Tricia Helfer was on the Playboy cover in 2007`
`16:30.19`	`Xaragoth`	`this kinda makes the new kerrigan even hotter.`
`16:30.21`	`Xaragoth`	`in some weird way.`
`16:30.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`16:30.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`u know shes from battlestar right?`
`16:30.37`	`Xaragoth`	`yeah, I know`
`16:30.39`	`Xaragoth`	`but who cares :p`
`16:30.48`	`Xaragoth`	`currently, she's kerrigan in my catalogue.`
`16:30.58`	`Xaragoth`	`also, PvP Webcomic teaches you interesting stuff`
`16:31.43`	`tordy`	`Xaragoth explains`
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`16:35.48`	`SycoPrime`	`IskatuMesk: You're putting way too much focus and importance into comparing your modding work with everyone else's. Those day jobs and busiwork other people have gives them something, even small, to be proud of. THAT is how they manage to get this stuff done, because even if their mod is fail, they still go back to something they can be proud of in a world apart from it.`
`16:36.19`	`SycoPrime`	`I read your post, please read this: http://www.library.csi.cuny.edu/dept/history/lavender/wallpaper.html as well as, or at least the afterward here: http://www.library.csi.cuny.edu/dept/history/lavender/whyyw.html`
`16:36.35`	`wOlfLinG`	`hmm... theres a guy thats flaming me in youtube comments because he thinks DotA allstars was the first DotA, and DotA = HoN :/`
`16:37.00`	`Xenrathe`	`That sounds terrible!`
`16:37.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`reading`
`16:37.30`	`SycoPrime`	`It sounds fuunny. That's why I love children, wolfing! Naivate is delicious.`
`16:37.44`	`SycoPrime`	`And yes, I spelled the stupid french word wrong >_>`
`16:37.50`	`wOlfLinG`	`it's got an L in it SycoPrime -.-`
`16:38.01`	`wOlfLinG`	`I mean my name`
`16:38.11`	`SycoPrime`	`Woops, sorry.`
`16:38.14`	`wOlfLinG`	`Not that weird foreign one :P`
`16:38.45`	`Xaragoth`	`wOlfLinG: Its probably rrowland! lolz :<`
`16:38.51`	`wOlfLinG`	`xD`
`16:38.58`	`wOlfLinG`	`I don't care Xaragot!`
`16:39.59`	`wOlfLinG`	`Also, is it wrong that i can't be bothered to map or play SC2 right now? :/`
`16:40.15`	`wOlfLinG`	`Cause that seems like it should be some kind of sin`
`16:40.40`	`Xaragoth`	`actually`
`16:40.45`	`Xaragoth`	`being a sinner is good`
`16:41.17`	`wOlfLinG`	`:D`
`16:42.17`	`Aetos`	`sinning isn't bad if you don't believe in a higher power :p[`
`16:42.33`	`Xaragoth`	`there is no higher power than myself`
`16:42.33`	`Xenrathe`	`Chuckle Syco, I'd never read that afterword of Gilman's story`
`16:42.34`	`wOlfLinG`	`There is no higher power n00b!`
`16:42.35`	`Xaragoth`	`so, yeah`
`16:42.38`	`Xaragoth`	`I win by default`
`16:42.49`	`wOlfLinG`	`Although topling is very godly :/`
`16:43.15`	`wOlfLinG`	`All hail teh topling!`
`16:43.22`	`Aetos`	`but, I created you Xaragoth`
`16:43.38`	`Xaragoth`	`I doubt that Aetos`
`16:46.29`	`tordy`	`wassap`
`16:51.18`	`Aetos`	`I think it's time to format my pc`
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`16:52.18`	`Skizot`	`I REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ANIMATORS`
`16:52.29`	`nicoli_s`	`Skizot:how goes your side scrolling map?`
`16:52.33`	`tordy`	`wheres otixa when you need em`
`16:52.34`	`nicoli_s`	`youve been MIA for weeks`
`16:52.52`	`Skizot`	`i just started on it again last night`
`16:53.03`	`Skizot`	`triceron kinda booted me into doing it.`
`16:53.18`	`nicoli_s`	`he should, that map looks kickass`
`16:53.24`	`Skizot`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/NESGameguy.png`
`16:53.28`	`Skizot`	`he sent me that`
`16:53.39`	`Skizot`	`needs edits..`
`16:53.43`	`Skizot`	`new head etc.`
`16:53.50`	`Skizot`	`the anklets removed.`
`16:54.06`	`Skizot`	`headband with FLOWING RIBBON EMIITERS`
`16:54.27`	`nicoli_s`	`thats pretty sweet though`
`16:54.43`	`Skizot`	`it will look better than a marine.`
`16:54.56`	`Skizot`	`but i'm gonna need a new load screen.`
`16:58.55`	`tordy`	`2TB hardrrive for $70`
`16:58.57`	`tordy`	`yay or nay?`
`16:59.03`	`tordy`	`7200rpm`
`16:59.09`	`tordy`	`western digital`
`16:59.10`	`tordy`	`^`
`16:59.11`	`tordy`	`v`
`16:59.21`	`SycoPrime`	`Very nice.`
`16:59.38`	`tordy`	`guess i'll interpret that as not very nice`
`17:00.11`	`Aetos`	`"Been chatting to a 14 year old girl online. She's funny, sexy and flirty. Now she tells me she is an undercover cop! How cool is that at her age!?"`
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`17:00.29`	`LordAbyss`	`hello everyone`
`17:00.40`	`Sixen`	`lmao aetos`
`17:00.53`	`LordAbyss`	`sixen, are you a new man today?`
`17:02.31`	`Sixen`	`you'll see soon`
`17:02.32`	`Sixen`	`:)`
`17:02.43`	`Aetos`	`http://i54.tinypic.com/24l0rvc.jpg`
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`17:08.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol Aetos`
`17:09.37`	`Aetos`	`http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/song-chart-memes-procrastination-homework.jpg`
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`17:11.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok so i have written a program to detect how long it takesto mine out a group of minerals. so in a 2 player map i can compare to see if the 2 groups mine the same time.. say i have 8 mins at 1500 per group for a total of 12k in mins... how much tolerance between the 2 should i allow? for example is it ok if it takes 12 minutes to mine and 12.5 for the other one?`
`17:11.48`	`Aetos`	`can you test the blizzard maps RodOfNOD?`
`17:12.08`	`RodOfNOD`	`yep`
`17:12.12`	`Aetos`	`test the blizzard maps`
`17:12.15`	`Aetos`	`and see the range they have`
`17:12.15`	`RodOfNOD`	`im making it a library`
`17:12.19`	`RodOfNOD`	`good idea`
`17:12.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`how do i find them?`
`17:12.47`	`Aetos`	`no clue`
`17:12.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`17:13.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`i guess i could delete all my cached onesand just download them`
`17:13.26`	`Aetos`	`yea`
`17:13.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`very very good idea and so simple`
`17:13.54`	`Araxnid`	`omg wtf this pip sound when im loadint sc2 map`
`17:14.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`most of their maps are so mirrored it should be identical`
`17:23.56`	`Aetos`	`anyway`
`17:23.59`	`Aetos`	`off to format`
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`17:37.51`	`FahqueL`	`ok guys I haven't made any heroes with skills and levels yet. what tutorial should I look at that covers it nicely?`
`17:38.08`	`SycoPrime`	`Biffu has one.`
`17:38.17`	`SycoPrime`	`It's like "here's everything you need for heroes"`
`17:38.35`	`FahqueL`	`what about the new requirement types: odd, etc..`
`17:38.41`	`FahqueL`	`do they simplify it further?`
`17:41.03`	`Helral`	`hmmm I'm currently working on a debug functionality for my inventory system, that will display ingame which settings are not set correctly. (so in other words, why does this library not function as wanted).....`
`17:41.29`	`Helral`	`Anyone got any ideas on what type of display would be best for this?`
`17:44.32`	`Helral`	`hmmm it's quiet in here...`
`17:45.23`	`SycoPrime`	`Helral: Why not have a togglable debug diag?`
`17:46.17`	`SycoPrime`	`When the player types "meow", show a dialog listing everything that's wrong with their inventory setup.`
`17:46.26`	`Helral`	`XD`
`17:47.26`	`SycoPrime`	`You could easily resize vertically depending on the number of entries, and if it goes down past visible screen, they get a failcookie, as well as they can just fix what they can see in order to see the rest of what's broke.`
`17:47.27`	`Helral`	`hehehe`
`17:48.03`	`Helral`	`if errors>10 then add to dialog window: A fail cookie XD`
`17:48.12`	`SycoPrime`	`:)`
`17:48.24`	`Helral`	`well I got errors and warnings though.`
`17:48.37`	`SycoPrime`	`So display two windows side-by side`
`17:48.40`	`SycoPrime`	`One warnings, one errors`
`17:48.57`	`Helral`	`hehehe`
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`17:49.10`	`SycoPrime`	`Just use a dialog label with different font / color to explain what they are.`
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`17:49.40`	`Helral`	`Errors are things that are most definitly wrong, and warnings are things that are possible like that, but some functionality won't work. (you can for example choose not to have an inventory ability itself, and thus you won't be able to equip/use items. but you can still get items in your inventory.)`
`17:50.20`	`sNap`	`It is possible to extract the damage-amount of an unit via trigger? if yes, how?`
`17:50.53`	`SycoPrime`	`CatalogFieldValueGet?`
`17:51.04`	`Helral`	`it is possible, but you'll need to use the catalog system, and combine this with all the buffs that are active on the unit. unless they've added an easy way.`
`17:51.24`	`sNap`	`ok, thx. i will try it.`
`17:51.36`	`SycoPrime`	`You'll need to get weapon from unit, then effect from weapon.`
`17:51.40`	`SycoPrime`	`Then use catalog on the effect.`
`17:52.09`	`SycoPrime`	`Depending on what you're trying to do, using the "unit does damage to another unit" event and just referencing the amount of damage done would be a good bit easier.`
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`17:53.34`	`LordAbyss`	`eww`
`17:53.35`	`LordAbyss`	`sixen is back`
`17:54.14`	`Helral`	`has anyone ever tried making such a thing as I'm making now? :P`
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`17:58.41`	`lotharscm`	`is 63 still the max behaviors on a unit in 1.1?`
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`18:05.37`	`Armentia`	`The hell is build time in the data editor?`
`18:06.13`	`Helral`	`Armentia: at the build ability.`
`18:06.43`	`Armentia`	`I saw that one, but it built instantly... ohhhh... shit.`
`18:06.51`	`Armentia`	`I removed the build in progress ability I think`
`18:07.01`	`Helral`	`the building need the build in progress ability.`
`18:08.35`	`Armentia`	`I really like the idea of this boss that's in my head, but I really don't think I'm gonna have time to finish it -.-, back to work!`
`18:10.07`	`Armentia`	`Actually, I think I'll end up getting the boss done, but not what the players will have to fight it. Right now I've just got sped up normal melee stuff with unlimited resources... XD`
`18:10.09`	`Helral`	`hehehe`
`18:10.20`	`Helral`	`I should work on my boss fight if I want to finish it at all....`
`18:10.28`	`Armentia`	`Someone should make an 'open source' hero set that I could easily import into my map`
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`18:14.39`	`SycoPrime`	`As soon as you're born, they make you feel small.`
`18:14.50`	`SycoPrime`	`By giving you small scale instead of it all.`
`18:15.05`	`SycoPrime`	`Till the pain is so big your destroy event is called.`
`18:15.20`	`SycoPrime`	`An open source hero is something to be.`
`18:19.19`	`Armentia`	`anyone come across a trigger that checks how far along a building is built?`
`18:20.28`	`Armentia`	`Uni Progress Bar Check? Would that work?`
`18:20.30`	`Armentia`	`Unit*`
`18:21.16`	`Armentia`	`Nobody loves me, everybody is leaving me =[=[`
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`18:21.41`	`SycoPrime`	`You'd have to do a periodic event that checks unit progress.`
`18:21.46`	`SycoPrime`	`As far as I know.`
`18:21.58`	`Armentia`	`checks unit progress, would that be the progress bar check?`
`18:22.06`	`Armentia`	`or would progress bar check be like an ability progress bar`
`18:22.16`	`SycoPrime`	`You can turn the trigger off, and have a trigger that fires when construction starts,`
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`18:23.05`	`SycoPrime`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:23.36`	`SycoPrime`	`Anyway, out for now. See you guys later.`
`18:23.40`	`Armentia`	`Cya`
`18:24.27`	`Demonette`	`everyone is gone -.-`
`18:24.53`	`Helral`	`tickles Demonette`
`18:24.55`	`Helral`	`meows`
`18:25.01`	`Demonette`	`Hi Helral`
`18:25.05`	`LordAbyss`	`am i crazy to have 15 hero classes for my wow boss fight contest?`
`18:25.20`	`Helral`	`neh.`
`18:25.30`	`Armentia`	`Yes, way too many, give me the rest.`
`18:25.34`	`Armentia`	`=P`
`18:25.37`	`LordAbyss`	`lol`
`18:25.43`	`LordAbyss`	`they are each going ot have 2-3 abilties i think`
`18:25.45`	`LordAbyss`	`for a start`
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`18:26.08`	`Armentia`	`Heh, I'm probably just going to give each player an overpowered zealot rine or hydra`
`18:26.18`	`Helral`	`my boss fight (if I'm going to create it) will be 1 player vs 1 boss with 6 phases.`
`18:26.45`	`LordAbyss`	`im doing general vezax`
`18:27.48`	`Helral`	`who is that?`
`18:28.03`	`LordAbyss`	`boss from wow`
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`18:30.55`	`Armentia`	`I'm totally doing an untraditional boss ;)`
`18:31.15`	`LordAbyss`	`most people haven't seen the real boss fight of general vezax`
`18:31.33`	`LordAbyss`	`since he wasn't the last boss of a raid and they introduced a new raid after that one`
`18:31.35`	`LordAbyss`	`which was easier`
`18:31.41`	`Armentia`	`I haven't played hardly any wow, so I don't know any of the bosses =]`
`18:31.50`	`LordAbyss`	`he has 1 phase`
`18:31.59`	`LordAbyss`	`but abilities that make the fight annoyingly hard`
`18:32.05`	`LordAbyss`	`like no mana regen at all`
`18:32.24`	`Helral`	`the boss I'll use is from a Zelda game :P`
`18:32.53`	`LordAbyss`	`please tell me one of the 2 good ones`
`18:33.03`	`LordAbyss`	`majoras mask or ocarina of time`
`18:33.05`	`Helral`	`Links Awakening`
`18:33.11`	`LordAbyss`	`never played it`
`18:33.15`	`Helral`	`it's older`
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`18:36.43`	`Helral`	`you have to use the right abilities, and sometimes even need to time it correctly.`
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`18:37.08`	`Otixa`	`roars`
`18:37.21`	`Helral`	`pokes Sixen with a stick.`
`18:37.31`	`Helral`	`you having internet problems?`
`18:39.37`	`LordAbyss`	`its his asu internet`
`18:39.43`	`LordAbyss`	`it sucks like everything else there`
`18:42.13`	`Sixen`	`Nah`
`18:42.17`	`Sixen`	`On campus,w alking around`
`18:44.01`	`Helral`	`lol`
`18:44.11`	`Armentia`	`Walking around? Carrying around a laptop with IRC?`
`18:47.13`	`Helral`	`prolly a mobile ;p`
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`18:48.14`	`Helral`	`you scared him off, Armentia ;p`
`18:48.38`	`Armentia`	`Aww shit`
`18:48.47`	`Twiner`	`people use mobiles to irc all the time`
`18:48.50`	`Helral`	`hehehe`
`18:51.37`	`Armentia`	`Eh, I don't have a mobile capable enough =P`
`18:51.47`	`Armentia`	`I'm still in the stoneage of basic toughscreens`
`18:51.51`	`Armentia`	`touch*`
`18:52.03`	`Helral`	`I've got the basic toughscreen ;p`
`18:52.18`	`Helral`	`mine ain't a touchscreen ;p`
`18:53.25`	`Armentia`	`I'm actually on my second LG Vu.. The first one's screen got busted from being smashed against my camera after falling. I got lucky both didn't break.. XD`
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`18:56.52`	`m4ng3`	`Hello all you non-druggies.`
`18:59.54`	`nicoli_s`	`non?`
`19:00.33`	`Armentia`	`Yeah, I'm pretty clean`
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`19:01.02`	`Otixa`	`You dirty bastard!`
`19:01.05`	`Otixa`	`stabs Armentia`
`19:01.12`	`LordAbyss`	`VJEUX DID IT`
`19:01.34`	`Otixa`	`Yeh >;/`
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`19:02.22`	`Armentia`	`That's not very nice!`
`19:02.34`	`Armentia`	`And why did my lightning suddenly stop working!?`
`19:03.19`	`Armentia`	`sunuvabish`
`19:04.18`	`Armentia`	`okay,.. back to working.. now why did that break it`
`19:05.00`	`sNap`	`it is possible to get the modified (through behaviours, effects) armor of an unit through the catalog or any other action in a trigger?`
`19:06.32`	`Armentia`	`Possible? Yes, keep track of what behaviours and effets etc you have applied to the unit. =P There may or may not be an easier way, that I don't know`
`19:08.08`	`Demonette`	`Helral?`
`19:10.02`	`sNap`	`there is a number behind the armor in the game like: Armor: 100 -8 , if it would possible to get the number I have my solution ;-)`
`19:15.57`	`Demonette`	`?`
`19:16.00`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh`
`19:16.04`	`Demonette`	`Helral is gone..`
`19:16.29`	`Armentia`	`Helral is in the chat, just afk I assume. Some people like to step outside IRC once in a while =P`
`19:16.44`	`Xaragoth`	`I'm back.`
`19:16.52`	`Xaragoth`	`I can meow too, if you need that Demonette xD`
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`19:17.30`	`SycoPrime`	`So....I take away photon cannon's weapon in Data Editor, give it a different weapon in a trigger. It can't attack until I add the weapon, but when I try to attack, it says it can't rotate to the target. I added the weapon using the "photon cannon" turret.`
`19:18.00`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhh no`
`19:18.07`	`Demonette`	`i wanted to talk with helral`
`19:18.16`	`Demonette`	`-.-`
`19:19.29`	`Demonette`	`But well i don't think one can talk with you about some deeper things...`
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`19:21.01`	`Xaragoth`	`I doubt you can cry to me about how unfair life is, yes.`
`19:25.23`	`A1win`	`any idea how to count the number of "soldier" units owned by a player so that it won't count larvas and such... or well larva is the only problem I can think of since it doesn't have any special flags for it`
`19:26.22`	`A1win`	`oh and overlords...`
`19:26.52`	`SycoPrime`	`1) add everything to a unit group, go through the unit group and remove based on unit type`
`19:27.02`	`SycoPrime`	`2) Somehow check if unit has ability "attack" before adding to unit group`
`19:27.06`	`Demonette`	`I don't wanted to talk about my life Xaragoth`
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`19:29.03`	`m4ng3`	`i like pie`
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`19:32.16`	`Armentia`	`@ m4ng3 http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/pie`
`19:35.21`	`Demonette`	`What is a goal?`
`19:35.50`	`Armentia`	`To enjoy life to it's fullest?`
`19:36.03`	`SycoPrime`	`Something that happens before a vevuzela is sounded.`
`19:36.35`	`Demonette`	`Mmmmhh i mean a goal in the game named "life"`
`19:36.53`	`Demonette`	`overall`
`19:37.50`	`Xaragoth`	`there is some nice vid about that`
`19:37.52`	`Xaragoth`	`gimme a minute`
`19:38.47`	`Xaragoth`	`http://vimeo.com/11414505`
`19:38.51`	`Xaragoth`	`Demonette, watch that`
`19:38.52`	`Skizot`	`http://i.imgur.com/JpIF1.png clever nintendo`
`19:38.52`	`Xaragoth`	`its good`
`19:39.29`	`Armentia`	`Ha skizot, that's awesome`
`19:40.28`	`m4ng3`	`mmm pie`
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`19:52.55`	`Armentia`	`hmm.. why doesn't adding raven place turret onto my boss and then trying to use it through triggers do anything? =[=[`
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`19:54.37`	`Helral`	`how are you trying to use it?`
`19:56.10`	`Armentia`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:56.20`	`Armentia`	`The point works, I use the exact same point with a move command`
`19:56.46`	`slightlyrandom`	`The unit has the ability and its on the command card ?`
`19:56.53`	`Armentia`	`Yeah`
`19:57.07`	`slightlyrandom`	`Well, give yourself control of the thing and try to use the ability manuall`
`19:57.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`y`
`19:57.18`	`Armentia`	`was getting ready to test that`
`19:57.32`	`Armentia`	`fuuuccckkkk mana`
`19:57.39`	`slightlyrandom`	`That was gonna be my next suggestion`
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`19:58.55`	`Armentia`	`Basing a unit off of an scv doesn't help sometimes -.-`
`19:59.48`	`SycoPrime`	`Helral: As long as you're around, any idea why a unit would say "cannot turn to face target" if I basically just removed the weapon and added it (using the same turret) with triggers?`
`20:00.31`	`Armentia`	`thanks rando`
`20:00.48`	`Armentia`	`time for work... peace out`
`20:03.36`	`LordAbyss`	`YES`
`20:03.42`	`LordAbyss`	`i duplicated all my units!`
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`20:03.48`	`LordAbyss`	`stats aren't right`
`20:03.52`	`LordAbyss`	`no abiltiies`
`20:03.54`	`LordAbyss`	`but i have something!`
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`20:33.18`	`Otixa`	`roars`
`20:33.34`	`wOlfLinG`	`cowers from Otixa`
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`20:46.59`	`Ousnius`	`hi`
`20:47.13`	`Ousnius`	`vjeux I've got a little question`
`20:47.58`	`Ousnius`	`is the mapster "picture preview box" bugged for everyone?`
`20:48.00`	`Ousnius`	`or is it only me?`
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`20:48.28`	`CKeen`	`Hello`
`20:48.50`	`wOlfLinG`	`hiya :)`
`20:49.00`	`CKeen`	`I hope this is the right place to ask help (the topic seems to suggest so :P)`
`20:49.14`	`CKeen`	`I'm new at starcraft 2 mapping and I'm having problems with the unit editor`
`20:49.17`	`Jum-Jum`	`it is, but people dont answer that often :P`
`20:49.25`	`CKeen`	`ah`
`20:49.27`	`wOlfLinG`	`Well, we try to help`
`20:49.37`	`wOlfLinG`	`But generally it's more of a muck around channel ^^`
`20:49.47`	`wOlfLinG`	`Anyay, ask your question(s)`
`20:49.53`	`CKeen`	`well basically`
`20:50.05`	`CKeen`	`I am making a simple map that lets you build all units present in the campaign`
`20:50.08`	`CKeen`	`but`
`20:50.16`	`CKeen`	`although I am able to place the units in the map editor`
`20:50.29`	`CKeen`	`I can't seem to understand how to make SCVs construct the new buildings and how to make buildings produce the new units`
`20:50.31`	`CKeen`	`they don't show up`
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`20:50.53`	`wOlfLinG`	`Ok, 1) Make sure the campaign dependencys are at the top of the list.`
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`20:51.09`	`wOlfLinG`	`Then, make sure that the SCV ability can make the buildings`
`20:51.21`	`wOlfLinG`	`If so, make sure it's added to the SCV etc`
`20:51.27`	`wOlfLinG`	`basic checks and stuff`
`20:52.01`	`CKeen`	`yeah the new buildings are there`
`20:52.12`	`CKeen`	`I can do screenshots but my editor is not in english`
`20:52.15`	`CKeen`	`hopefully it won't matter much`
`20:52.19`	`Jum-Jum`	`File->dependencies`
`20:52.20`	`wOlfLinG`	`Also, it may be to do with requirements. Go into the SCV build ability. Open up each ability you want to be able to use, and click the red cross next to the requirements pane`
`20:53.11`	`CKeen`	`oh yeah`
`20:53.16`	`CKeen`	`i see the dependencies there`
`20:53.43`	`wOlfLinG`	`right, just make sure that the campaign ones are at the top of the list`
`20:53.48`	`Jum-Jum`	`I didnt have to do anything I just added the campaign depenecies`
`20:54.10`	`Jum-Jum`	`to get the SCV to build campaign units`
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`20:54.11`	`wOlfLinG`	`Well, i think it's fixed as of 1.1, but i'd do it anyway`
`20:54.18`	`CKeen`	`you added the campaign dependencies and everything showed up without having to edit stuff?`
`20:54.23`	`Jum-Jum`	`yeah`
`20:54.26`	`CKeen`	`anyway I'll upload a screenshot`
`20:54.27`	`Jum-Jum`	`to be honest I want to get rid of it`
`20:55.44`	`CKeen`	`http://www.upload3r.com/serve/240910/1285361734.png`
`20:55.53`	`CKeen`	`there`
`20:56.00`	`CKeen`	`I looked at how the original units were built`
`20:56.06`	`CKeen`	`and it shows the various abilities to build them`
`20:56.07`	`CKeen`	`however`
`20:56.13`	`CKeen`	`while there are abilities that say Construct Raven`
`20:56.18`	`CKeen`	`there is none for units such as the Wraith apparently`
`20:56.20`	`CKeen`	`at least it's not in that list`
`20:56.56`	`Jum-Jum`	`I didnt even look in the data editor`
`20:57.17`	`Jum-Jum`	`I added dependencies and it kinda replaced the scv`
`20:57.20`	`CKeen`	`but did it build ALL of the campaign units?`
`20:57.22`	`Jum-Jum`	`it could be the order of your depencies`
`20:57.26`	`CKeen`	`that means, even when you have to choose between two units?`
`20:57.27`	`Jum-Jum`	`ye`
`20:57.30`	`CKeen`	`such as the predator and the hercules`
`20:57.36`	`Jum-Jum`	`or well i didnt have science vessel but thats because the raven is there instead for ex.`
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`20:57.42`	`CKeen`	`oh`
`20:57.53`	`Jum-Jum`	`have predator and hercules`
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`20:58.00`	`wOlfLinG`	`Ok, go into the abilitys tab, find the SCV - Build ability and remove requirements`
`21:00.18`	`CKeen`	`huh, I don't see requirements...`
`21:00.23`	`CKeen`	`I mean I don't see the string`
`21:02.18`	`CKeen`	`unless you mean requirements for each of the buildings`
`21:02.30`	`CKeen`	`if that's the case, there are no requirements there`
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`21:03.44`	`Aetos`	`i have returned!`
`21:03.48`	`Aetos`	`with a freshly formatted computer`
`21:04.05`	`CKeen`	`http://www.upload3r.com/serve/240910/1285362242.png`
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`21:07.04`	`wOlfLinG`	`well, not sure CKeen, sorry :/`
`21:07.13`	`CKeen`	`no problem heh`
`21:07.24`	`CKeen`	`guess I can try to do what Jum-Jum said`
`21:09.18`	`SycoPrime`	`Ckeen: You can't build perdition turret? Check the command card for the SCV.`
`21:10.10`	`CKeen`	`one sec, gonna test the map first`
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`21:12.09`	`Jum-Jum`	`CKeen: Add the story campaign depency`
`21:12.16`	`Jum-Jum`	`i removed it and now mine is 'normal' again. :P`
`21:12.23`	`Jum-Jum`	`i dont know if the order of the depencies matter or not`
`21:12.50`	`SycoPrime`	`They do.`
`21:13.10`	`CKeen`	`heh this cpu is lame`
`21:13.26`	`CKeen`	`I have to close starcraft 2 via task manager or the computer locks up if I attempt to do it through normal means`
`21:14.02`	`CKeen`	`so anyway`
`21:14.14`	`CKeen`	`Jum-Jum: yeah it's on top of the list now`
`21:14.23`	`CKeen`	`also, command card?`
`21:14.38`	`SycoPrime`	`Yeah, go to the units tab.`
`21:14.41`	`CKeen`	`(sorry my starcraft 2 is not in english)`
`21:14.41`	`SycoPrime`	`Select the SCV`
`21:14.44`	`SycoPrime`	`You'll see command`
`21:14.56`	`SycoPrime`	`You'll see something that translates to "command card" on the right.`
`21:15.14`	`Jum-Jum`	`You shouldn't have to go to the command card`
`21:15.52`	`CKeen`	`is it an ability?`
`21:16.05`	`CKeen`	`I'm on the unit page, viewing the SCV unit`
`21:16.12`	`CKeen`	`and it says abilitÃ - scheda comandi`
`21:16.14`	`CKeen`	`I think that's it`
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`21:17.30`	`SycoPrime`	`Yeah, that sounds right.`
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`21:17.36`	`SycoPrime`	`Open that up and you'll see a bunch of buttons.`
`21:17.46`	`SycoPrime`	`If there's no button for perdition turret, your dependancies are out of order.`
`21:17.47`	`CKeen`	`yeah`
`21:17.55`	`CKeen`	`well uh`
`21:18.04`	`HeyRevolver`	`File > Dependencies`
`21:18.09`	`CKeen`	`ooh now I see`
`21:18.16`	`CKeen`	`yeah there's no perdition turret`
`21:18.19`	`CKeen`	`so should I add it from here?`
`21:18.20`	`HeyRevolver`	`File > Dependencies`
`21:18.26`	`CKeen`	`HeyRevolver: already done`
`21:18.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`add the two you dont have on the list already`
`21:18.30`	`SycoPrime`	`You can, if you want.`
`21:18.30`	`HeyRevolver`	`oh`
`21:18.40`	`CKeen`	`the two I don't have?`
`21:18.41`	`HeyRevolver`	`did you restart the editor since you added the dependencies?`
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`21:19.26`	`CKeen`	`uhm, no`
`21:19.30`	`CKeen`	`but I didn't add dependencies`
`21:19.34`	`CKeen`	`all I did was putting the campaign one on the top`
`21:19.45`	`HeyRevolver`	`do you have 4 dependencies?`
`21:19.56`	`CKeen`	`now I do`
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`21:20.10`	`Saucy`	`What's the limited amount of tile sets you can have on one map?`
`21:20.16`	`CKeen`	`Liberty (mod), Liberty (campaign), Multi Liberty, Story Liberty`
`21:20.32`	`HeyRevolver`	`ok`
`21:20.34`	`CKeen`	`and liberty campaign is on top`
`21:20.39`	`HeyRevolver`	`it needs to go`
`21:21.03`	`CKeen`	`what needs to go?`
`21:21.08`	`HeyRevolver`	`Liberty Story, Liberty Campaign, Mod, Multi`
`21:21.18`	`Jum-Jum`	`Are you trolling?`
`21:21.25`	`CKeen`	`I'm not :\|`
`21:21.27`	`Jum-Jum`	`Or are you just terrible at explaining`
`21:21.30`	`Jum-Jum`	`I mean HeyRevolver =P`
`21:21.37`	`HeyRevolver`	`Are you a douchebag all the time?`
`21:21.40`	`HeyRevolver`	`Or just being one righ tnow?`
`21:21.42`	`Saucy`	`Anyone.. how many tile sets are we limited to on one map?`
`21:21.47`	`Jum-Jum`	`Sometimes`
`21:21.54`	`HeyRevolver`	`Saucy no clu`
`21:21.57`	`CKeen`	`so... I must take out all of the four dependencies?`
`21:21.59`	`Saucy`	`:\`
`21:22.02`	`HeyRevolver`	`no`
`21:22.07`	`HeyRevolver`	`you can move them pu with the arrow`
`21:22.10`	`Jum-Jum`	`See!`
`21:22.13`	`HeyRevolver`	`in the window where you add dependencies`
`21:22.18`	`CKeen`	`yeah`
`21:22.24`	`CKeen`	`Liberty (campaign) is at the top`
`21:22.27`	`HeyRevolver`	`and i typed out the order you want them in`
`21:22.36`	`CKeen`	`oh`
`21:22.37`	`CKeen`	`didn't notice`
`21:22.44`	`HeyRevolver`	`[17:22] <HeyRevolver> Liberty Story, Liberty Campaign, Mod, Multi`
`21:22.51`	`Jum-Jum`	`See HeyRevolver, terrible explanation! :D`
`21:22.59`	`HeyRevolver`	`Ok Jum-Jum we see you`
`21:23.00`	`Jum-Jum`	`I win!`
`21:23.01`	`HeyRevolver`	`youre awesome`
`21:23.01`	`HeyRevolver`	`cool`
`21:23.06`	`Jum-Jum`	`goes to his blog and writes all about it`
`21:23.12`	`CKeen`	`okay done`
`21:23.16`	`HeyRevolver`	`ok now save`
`21:23.26`	`CKeen`	`done`
`21:23.29`	`CKeen`	`shall I reboot the editor?`
`21:23.31`	`HeyRevolver`	`and if you havent restarted the editor`
`21:23.39`	`HeyRevolver`	`if you havet since you added the dependencies`
`21:23.50`	`CKeen`	`yeah I haven't yet`
`21:23.53`	`HeyRevolver`	`ok do it`
`21:23.53`	`CKeen`	`should I do it now?`
`21:23.56`	`CKeen`	`right`
`21:24.07`	`HeyRevolver`	`then the turret should show up in the data editor`
`21:24.09`	`Arthas-`	`HeyRevolver jumjum is swedish and wins by default`
`21:24.16`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol swedish people?`
`21:24.18`	`HeyRevolver`	`wtf have they done?`
`21:24.20`	`HeyRevolver`	`nothing.`
`21:24.25`	`Arthas-`	`Exactly`
`21:24.29`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Bikini Team.`
`21:24.30`	`Arthas-`	`then you fcked germany up`
`21:24.32`	`SuraklinSC2`	`nods.`
`21:24.32`	`Jum-Jum`	`See? We've done nothing wrong.`
`21:24.33`	`Jum-Jum`	`:D`
`21:24.33`	`Arthas-`	`and look what we have today`
`21:24.46`	`HeyRevolver`	`We fucked Germany up?`
`21:24.48`	`HeyRevolver`	`dont you mean`
`21:24.54`	`HeyRevolver`	`we fucked the world up? and fucked ourselves?`
`21:24.58`	`Arthas-`	`i have no clue where you are from :D`
`21:25.03`	`HeyRevolver`	`guess.`
`21:25.06`	`Jum-Jum`	`Seriously nancy, stop having sand in your vagina you are taking this too seriously`
`21:25.13`	`Arthas-`	`OH SHIT HE IS ROM GWB COUNTRY`
`21:25.18`	`HeyRevolver`	`;)`
`21:25.24`	`Arthas-`	`well honestly`
`21:25.29`	`Arthas-`	`you ae fucking EU up from over there`
`21:25.44`	`CKeen`	`right, editor restarted`
`21:25.49`	`HeyRevolver`	`Yeah yeah believe me I know how shitty our influence on the rest of the econimocal world it`
`21:25.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`is*`
`21:25.57`	`Arthas-`	`anyhow, did you find any time to watch any red dwarf?`
`21:26.05`	`HeyRevolver`	`YES I did`
`21:26.09`	`Arthas-`	`you liked it?`
`21:26.09`	`HeyRevolver`	`I watched the first 2`
`21:26.17`	`HeyRevolver`	`It is pretty oldschool but it was entertaining`
`21:26.23`	`HeyRevolver`	`I will def atch more`
`21:26.39`	`Arthas-`	`:D`
`21:26.41`	`HeyRevolver`	`CKeen is the turret there?`
`21:26.51`	`Arthas-`	`hmmmm my router acting up again brb`
`21:26.52`	`CKeen`	`haven't checked but the wraith build command is there now!`
`21:26.57`	`HeyRevolver`	`nice!`
`21:27.12`	`Saucy`	`FUUUUU you can only get 8 tilesets on one sc2 map`
`21:27.14`	`Saucy`	`gaaaaya`
`21:27.26`	`CKeen`	`thanks a lot, I think it's gonna work now`
`21:27.32`	`HeyRevolver`	`np`
`21:27.35`	`CKeen`	`...I hope`
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`21:27.59`	`CKeen`	`this is more complicated than the warcraft 3 editor unfortunately`
`21:28.00`	`Arthas-3`	`yay`
`21:28.15`	`HeyRevolver`	`I cant say I didnt use sc3 editor`
`21:28.16`	`Arthas-3`	`so, HeyRevolver did you think of helral when the cat appeared?`
`21:28.21`	`HeyRevolver`	`hahahaha`
`21:28.23`	`Saucy`	`there has to be a way to get more than 8....`
`21:28.24`	`Saucy`	`>_>`
`21:28.29`	`HeyRevolver`	`hahahahahhaha`
`21:28.33`	`HeyRevolver`	`actually yes I did`
`21:28.33`	`Arthas-3`	`I thought of him when I saw helral ^^`
`21:28.33`	`HeyRevolver`	`haahah`
`21:29.30`	`Arthas-3`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipm9xe5HXNU <<< helral`
`21:29.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`HAHAHAH WTF`
`21:29.57`	`Arthas-3`	`Yay, it's my shado lookig nice!`
`21:30.00`	`Arthas-3`	`shadow*`
`21:30.39`	`HeyRevolver`	`That screeching sound he makes`
`21:30.40`	`HeyRevolver`	`hahaha`
`21:30.56`	`HeyRevolver`	`Fearsome.. aa ggege, like my shaaaadow`
`21:31.07`	`Otixa`	`Photoshoop crashed -_-`
`21:36.03`	`Arthas-3`	`Now this is a very interesting case, according to the reports at the Playstation 3 forums, it seems Sony has blocked â75% of 3rd Party USBâ peripherals with their latest firmware update. Yep, that means anything not licensed by Sony can be disabled via USB, which unfortunately includes many 3rd party controllers (such as the PS3 MadCatZ controller).`
`21:36.07`	`Arthas-3`	`lol :D`
`21:36.31`	`Arthas-3`	`im tempted to repost the sony releases another piece of crap-video again`
`21:37.40`	`SycoPrime`	`So would a sony thumb drive still be able to load pirated OS? :P`
`21:38.04`	`Arthas-3`	`you mean the homebrew?`
`21:38.16`	`Arthas-3`	`its not actuually your usual thumbdrives :p`
`21:38.28`	`Arthas-3`	`but yeah, thats the reason`
`21:39.04`	`Arthas-3`	`http://us.playstation.com/news/consumeralerts/`
`21:39.07`	`Arthas-3`	`thats their reason!`
`21:41.12`	`Jum-Jum`	`oh let me guess... greed?`
`21:41.17`	`Arthas-3`	`no`
`21:41.21`	`Arthas-3`	`customer safety ofc`
`21:41.34`	`Arthas-3`	`apparently the madcats controllers can EXPLODE in your face and injure you`
`21:41.43`	`Arthas-3`	`since sony ae so nice they will simply not allow that to happen`
`21:41.46`	`SycoPrime`	`Well yeah, get what you pay for.`
`21:41.59`	`Arthas-3`	`still on fw 3.15 :p`
`21:42.09`	`Arthas-3`	`although with a slim`
`21:42.11`	`SycoPrime`	`I'm pretty sure there were several Vaio Laptops a while back where the battery exploded....`
`21:42.17`	`Arthas-3`	`3.15 patch killed 3 fat units for me`
`21:42.33`	`Arthas-3`	`or rather, it killed the bluray drive on all those`
`21:42.34`	`HeyRevolver`	`how do I make a unit fat`
`21:42.43`	`HeyRevolver`	`I tried giving him tons of banannas`
`21:42.46`	`HeyRevolver`	`from the editor`
`21:42.48`	`SycoPrime`	`Feed it pie.`
`21:42.50`	`Arthas-3`	`baought it at release for1k usd`
`21:42.53`	`HeyRevolver`	`There is no junk food!!!!`
`21:43.00`	`SycoPrime`	`Your first instinct will be to feed it cake, but the cake is a lie.`
`21:43.09`	`Arthas-3`	`now beginning of this year they gave me 146 back so i could downgrade to a slim`
`21:43.17`	`Arthas-3`	`Im a veryhappy customer of theirs :p`
`21:43.36`	`Arthas-3`	`the cake is actually real!`
`21:43.38`	`SycoPrime`	`So that's $854 for 2 PS3's, correct?`
`21:43.43`	`Arthas-3`	`ay`
`21:43.58`	`Arthas-3`	`for one reason (you will laugh)`
`21:44.05`	`Arthas-3`	`I wanted to play ff13`
`21:44.11`	`Arthas-3`	`that disc is today smashed into bits`
`21:44.18`	`SycoPrime`	`heh`
`21:44.46`	`SycoPrime`	`Eh, good enough reason as any. I bought my PS2 for GTA3, and I already decided that if KH3 ever gets released, I'm buying the PS3 bundle that undoubtedly gets released with it.`
`21:45.04`	`Arthas-3`	`ya well`
`21:45.15`	`Arthas-3`	`with ff12 before ff13 i should have known it would be crap :(`
`21:45.33`	`Arthas-3`	`wanna make that radical change to the gameplay? Make new IP, stop messing with the old ones`
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`21:46.04`	`SycoPrime`	`Yeah, like Lost Odyssey and Infinite Un...owait...`
`21:46.41`	`RedWraith`	`hmm`
`21:46.43`	`RedWraith`	`would it be possible`
`21:46.53`	`RedWraith`	`to make a sparsile-style XML editor`
`21:46.59`	`RedWraith`	`the same way things hacks are made`
`21:47.03`	`RedWraith`	`for the game itself?`
`21:47.18`	`RedWraith`	`by finding how Blizzard makes temp saves in the data editor and abusing that?`
`21:47.19`	`RedWraith`	`>_>`
`21:48.11`	`HeyRevolver`	`dunno but it'd get ya banned for life`
`21:48.14`	`RedWraith`	`lol`
`21:48.24`	`RedWraith`	`I wonder how Blizzard would respond to that`
`21:48.44`	`Zoxc`	`wonders what RedWraith is talking about`
`21:48.57`	`RedWraith`	`Zoxc, making a better data editor.`
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`21:50.56`	`FatCat9000`	`ITS NOT ME`
`21:50.59`	`HeyRevolver`	`i mean`
`21:51.00`	`HeyRevolver`	`ITS NOT ME`
`21:51.08`	`Zoxc`	`you mean modifying the existing one?`
`21:51.10`	`Arthas-3`	`why not just make an editor that works straight on the xml files?`
`21:51.28`	`RedWraith`	`Zoxc, a program that works with the editor, effectively replacing the data editor`
`21:51.35`	`RedWraith`	`Arthas, they can't work simultaneously.`
`21:51.53`	`Otixa`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/SC2/misc/machette.jpg`
`21:51.54`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`21:51.55`	`Arthas-3`	`well, what you wanna is possible`
`21:52.01`	`Arthas-3`	`i dont have the expertise to do it though :p`
`21:52.02`	`HeyRevolver`	`Otixa`
`21:52.03`	`HeyRevolver`	`stop`
`21:52.05`	`HeyRevolver`	`just fucking stop`
`21:52.06`	`RedWraith`	`Fair enough, Arthas.`
`21:52.12`	`RedWraith`	`I'd have to be a haxx0rz to do it.`
`21:52.13`	`RedWraith`	`>_>`
`21:52.22`	`Zoxc`	`you can hijack the editor, but the existing one is pretty integrated already`
`21:52.22`	`Otixa`	`HeyRevolver, wat? >:\|`
`21:52.24`	`HeyRevolver`	`lolol`
`21:52.29`	`HeyRevolver`	`give some other people a chance`
`21:52.40`	`Otixa`	`I am ;p`
`21:52.40`	`RedWraith`	`Zoxc, you have no idea what I could do to the data editor if I could replace it.`
`21:52.52`	`RedWraith`	`Mass production of units, easy actor modification, etc. etc.`
`21:52.56`	`Otixa`	`I'll be showing you guys how to do it from scratch tomorrow on ModCraft`
`21:52.59`	`Arthas-3`	`why replace it?`
`21:53.00`	`HeyRevolver`	`sweet`
`21:53.06`	`Arthas-3`	`why not add another optin for your version`
`21:53.26`	`RedWraith`	`Arthas, if I were an uber leet haxxor, I could modify Blizzard's shit`
`21:53.36`	`RedWraith`	`Honestly, I should just make my own separate editor for data`
`21:53.36`	`Arthas-3`	`not relevant`
`21:53.47`	`RedWraith`	`you really don't need to be in the original editor for data editing`
`21:53.55`	`Arthas-3`	`im asking why you wanna remove the old one, why not just add a new one on the side of it in the editor`
`21:53.57`	`RedWraith`	`only issue is no previews :(`
`21:54.06`	`SycoPrime`	`Otixa: Very nice.`
`21:54.09`	`Arthas-3`	`you dont really need the editor to do data editing either`
`21:54.10`	`Zoxc`	`improve MWE`
`21:54.12`	`RedWraith`	`I'm not saying remove it necessarily.`
`21:54.16`	`RedWraith`	`I can't actually remove it`
`21:54.19`	`RedWraith`	`I just mean better`
`21:54.22`	`RedWraith`	`Zoxc, that's the point.`
`21:54.35`	`RedWraith`	`Zoxc, that might be a decent idea.`
`21:55.41`	`HeyRevolver`	`hahaha Arthas`
`21:55.43`	`HeyRevolver`	`I cant get over http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipm9xe5HXNU`
`21:55.49`	`HeyRevolver`	`so glad you found it on youtube`
`21:56.03`	`Arthas-3`	`haha :D`
`21:56.07`	`Arthas-3`	`Helral wake up`
`21:56.24`	`Arthas-3`	`look at how nice you look!`
`21:56.42`	`Arthas-3`	`im seriously considering buying a pink-ish suit :D`
`21:56.42`	`HeyRevolver`	`hahaha`
`21:56.52`	`HeyRevolver`	`Fears some.. fffeeaarsome.. a gege.. as my shaaaaadow`
`21:57.01`	`Arthas-3`	`hahaha`
`21:57.04`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`21:57.06`	`Arthas-3`	`yeah that part cracks me up lol`
`21:57.52`	`HeyRevolver`	`if you watch you can tell that theguy jumping out of the vent busted his ass, he catches his foot on the rim`
`21:58.01`	`HeyRevolver`	`the editing is just good for the switch to the dive`
`21:58.24`	`HeyRevolver`	`oh maybe not`
`21:58.29`	`HeyRevolver`	`I retract my statement`
`21:58.33`	`HeyRevolver`	`hides`
`21:59.08`	`Arthas-3`	`:p`
`21:59.16`	`HeyRevolver`	`DANGEROUUUUUUUUS`
`21:59.19`	`Arthas-3`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Uvc2-JIFc`
`21:59.21`	`Arthas-3`	`watching that now`
`21:59.39`	`eggy`	`sigh`
`21:59.42`	`CKeen`	`hey one more question`
`21:59.54`	`HeyRevolver`	`yeah?`
`21:59.57`	`CKeen`	`how do I make it so a player starts a game with some upgrades already researched`
`22:00.07`	`CKeen`	`basically I want to enable all of the campaign upgrades`
`22:00.22`	`HeyRevolver`	`I'm not sure man havent messed with upgrades any`
`22:00.58`	`HeyRevolver`	`someone here knows though`
`22:01.02`	`SycoPrime`	`Ckeen: Easiest thing to do is to set the upgrade levels in the map initialization trigger.`
`22:01.17`	`CKeen`	`does that affect the campaign upgrades?`
`22:01.41`	`HeyRevolver`	`no`
`22:01.52`	`HeyRevolver`	`Each map you edit has its own set of stuff to manipulate`
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`22:06.10`	`Moop`	`anyone have a good actor tutorial?`
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`22:16.04`	`Aetos`	`you try to be nice in civ 5.. but then some other civilizations comes and starts being an asshole and all hell breaks loose`
`22:16.06`	`Aetos`	`>:(`
`22:16.59`	`wOlfLinG`	`Is Civ 5 any good?`
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`22:17.07`	`Aetos`	`I love irt`
`22:17.22`	`wOlfLinG`	`I played civ 1 + 2 :D`
`22:17.23`	`SycoPrime`	`But we didn't ask about ice road truckers.`
`22:17.27`	`wOlfLinG`	`But not 3 or 4 :/`
`22:17.44`	`HeyRevolver`	`They need to make a show on the hookers those guys pick up`
`22:17.50`	`HeyRevolver`	`Ice Road Fuckers`
`22:18.20`	`HeyRevolver`	`I know it was terrible it was supposed to be, not even one sympathy lol?`
`22:18.32`	`HeyRevolver`	`you guys are cold blooded`
`22:18.35`	`HeyRevolver`	`COOOOLD AS ICE`
`22:20.08`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`lol`
`22:20.39`	`Shawn\|rawr`	`So, I added Hellion weapon to a hydralisk via a trigger and the fire refuses to show up :S`
`22:20.53`	`Arthas-3`	`HeyRevolver watch tgwtg much?`
`22:23.23`	`SycoPrime`	`Shawn, it's probably in the hellion weapon's actor events.`
`22:24.57`	`HeyRevolver`	`Arthas wtf is tgwtg`
`22:25.07`	`HeyRevolver`	`tim goes with the goochie?`
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`22:33.13`	`Arthas-3`	`thatguywiththeglasses :p`
`22:33.16`	`Arthas-3`	`nvm ten :D`
`22:34.07`	`rrowland`	`cmon its been 2 weeks i need my 5 grand now`
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`22:37.47`	`Eiviyn`	`What did you submit rrowland?`
`22:38.58`	`rrowland`	`still havent said`
`22:39.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`hahaha`
`22:39.58`	`SycoPrime`	`Are there icons in the stock game (without making custom dds) that have alphabetical letters on them?`
`22:40.00`	`HeyRevolver`	`sooooo mysterious`
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`22:42.38`	`LordAbyss`	`Sixen, you are ugly and vjeux did it`
`22:42.48`	`rrowland`	`:o`
`22:42.51`	`rrowland`	`thats not nice`
`22:43.02`	`LordAbyss`	`but vjeux did it!`
`22:43.06`	`LordAbyss`	`even PM agreed`
`22:43.08`	`Sixen`	`k`
`22:43.27`	`rrowland`	`PM is basically jesus`
`22:43.29`	`rrowland`	`so`
`22:43.36`	`LordAbyss`	`he lied?`
`22:43.37`	`rrowland`	`it must be true`
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`22:43.46`	`Helral`	`meows`
`22:43.54`	`Helral`	`Hey Tinman back so soon?`
`22:44.26`	`Arthas-3`	`Helral did you se the video?`
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`22:44.29`	`HeyRevolver`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipm9xe5HXNU`
`22:44.35`	`Arthas-3`	`ya that`
`22:44.36`	`Arthas-3`	`:D`
`22:44.40`	`HeyRevolver`	`its you`
`22:44.43`	`Dryeyece`	`Hello everyone`
`22:45.04`	`Helral`	`Red dwarf isn't it?`
`22:45.08`	`Arthas-3`	`yup yup`
`22:45.16`	`Helral`	`seen it long time ago`
`22:45.19`	`Dryeyece`	`Anyone know how to change one terrain texture out for another one? I read somewhere about how to do it but damned if I can find it now`
`22:45.21`	`Arthas-3`	`:D`
`22:45.30`	`wOlfLinG`	`Strangly i have never seen red dwarf :/`
`22:46.14`	`LordAbyss`	`i saw a blue dwarf`
`22:46.44`	`rrowland`	`Those are smurfs`
`22:47.17`	`LordAbyss`	`no they aren't`
`22:47.21`	`LordAbyss`	`smurfs are a little smaller`
`22:47.25`	`LordAbyss`	`they were very clear about that`
`22:47.28`	`LordAbyss`	`those blue dwarfs`
`22:47.36`	`Arthas-3`	`dwarves are funny :D`
`22:47.38`	`rrowland`	`are you sure they werent orange`
`22:47.42`	`rrowland`	`then theyd be oompa loompas`
`22:47.44`	`Arthas-3`	`drunken dwarves fighting is even funnier`
`22:47.44`	`LordAbyss`	`yes im sure`
`22:48.00`	`rrowland`	`or green`
`22:48.03`	`rrowland`	`then theyd be goblins`
`22:48.45`	`rrowland`	`ogod dexter in 2 days`
`22:48.59`	`LordAbyss`	`ok, now to fix my map cosmetically`
`22:49.04`	`LordAbyss`	`make it ready for abilities!`
`22:49.12`	`LordAbyss`	`im screwed >.>`
`22:49.13`	`LordAbyss`	`lol`
`22:51.11`	`Xaragoth`	`"In case of swampy terrain, apply shark." xD`
`22:51.53`	`Otixa`	`applies shark to Xaragoth`
`22:52.15`	`Xaragoth`	`installs landmine on forehead and adds lazors to eyes.`
`22:52.26`	`Otixa`	`Motherfucker!`
`22:52.28`	`Otixa`	`bails`
`22:52.34`	`Xaragoth`	`BEHOLD! My melee-efficient-shark-gun!`
`22:52.50`	`Xaragoth`	`fires at Otixa until the batteries run low and throws the shark.`
`22:53.07`	`Xaragoth`	`flying shark landmine-headbutt attack!`
`22:53.15`	`Xaragoth`	`actually`
`22:53.18`	`Xaragoth`	`I gotta trademark that`
`22:53.19`	`Otixa`	`x_X`
`22:58.26`	`Arthas-3`	`"so you dont mind people getting hurt by exploding or controllers that catch fire (which has happened from a number of unlicensed manufacturers) as long as you get to keep your bootlegged crap?"`
`22:58.31`	`Arthas-3`	`Are people reallythis stupid?`
`22:59.28`	`ekcolnovkol`	`ye`
`22:59.33`	`ekcolnovkol`	`don't be suprised`
`22:59.41`	`Arthas-3`	`"Stop whining! Only hackers and the people wanting crappy homebrew complain about features being taken out. The PS3 is still the fully loaded console in gaming history if you don't count PCs or MACs."`
`22:59.55`	`Arthas-3`	`its done`
`23:00.11`	`Arthas-3`	`once I turn 70 and have paid my due to society im going to go postal`
`23:01.01`	`Jum-Jum`	`LOL`
`23:01.05`	`Jum-Jum`	`who said that Arthas-3?`
`23:01.09`	`Arthas-3`	`like in jay & silent bob strikes back`
`23:01.13`	`Arthas-3`	`http://boardsus.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-3-General/sony-it-only-takes-away-everything/td-p/46205467/page/4`
`23:01.16`	`Arthas-3`	`the fanoys over there`
`23:02.07`	`Arthas-3`	`athough op of that thread is an idiot aswell :p`
`23:06.24`	`soulcarver`	`zug anybody wanna kill some time testing a map?`
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`23:09.31`	`wOlfLinG`	`lol, i'm watching the inbetweeners. Never cringed so much in my life xD`
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`23:12.19`	`Otixa`	`A Mirvra ;p`
`23:13.10`	`Mirvra`	`what is it Otixa?`
`23:13.24`	`Otixa`	`Hai2u`
`23:13.28`	`Mirvra`	`heya o.o`
`23:13.34`	`Otixa`	`How was CL? ;p`
`23:13.34`	`soulcarver`	`could anybody help test on usa?`
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`23:14.34`	`Otixa`	`stabs Moop`
`23:16.44`	`Xaragoth`	`throws the shark at mirvra.`
`23:16.45`	`Xaragoth`	`catch!`
`23:16.59`	`Otixa`	`ducks`
`23:17.05`	`Mirvra`	`i'm busy in-game`
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`23:17.59`	`Phaos`	`RAWR`
`23:18.04`	`Otixa`	`smacks Phaos`
`23:18.08`	`Phaos`	`FFF`
`23:18.13`	`Moop`	`awww yeah`
`23:18.14`	`Otixa`	`>:[`
`23:18.14`	`Phaos`	`Otixa your NA servers right ?`
`23:18.15`	`Moop`	`i fixed my actor problem`
`23:18.20`	`Otixa`	`Phaos, EU`
`23:18.22`	`Moop`	`and got some items up and working`
`23:18.32`	`Otixa`	`Phaos, you. tomorrow. ModCraft.`
`23:18.39`	`Phaos`	`you damn spaniard... or something around that region`
`23:18.50`	`Otixa`	`UK ;p`
`23:18.51`	`Phaos`	`I am working allllllllllllll day`
`23:18.52`	`Moop`	`wut is modcraft`
`23:19.02`	`Phaos`	`UK?! your accent isn't british!`
`23:19.03`	`Otixa`	`Moop, a show on SC2 modding`
`23:19.11`	`Otixa`	`Phaos, yes, I'm a spy ;p`
`23:19.12`	`Moop`	`mmMMMmmm?`
`23:19.15`	`Moop`	`interesting`
`23:19.22`	`Moop`	`live show or is there jewtubes`
`23:19.32`	`Otixa`	`Live show, with video on demand`
`23:19.35`	`Otixa`	`(livestream)`
`23:19.45`	`Otixa`	`For the modelling segment we'll be doing this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/SC2/misc/machette.jpg`
`23:20.03`	`Phaos`	`oooOOOOOoo`
`23:20.12`	`Otixa`	`And Xar will be making a swamp or someshit`
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`23:20.26`	`Otixa`	`Apparently it'll have sharks`
`23:21.01`	`Xaragoth`	`SWAMPSHARKS! MADE WITH LIQUID COWS AND CHUCK NORRIS! <insert manical laughter>`
`23:21.17`	`Otixa`	`Yes, that Â¬_Â¬`
`23:27.21`	`Lilianna`	`Landsharks!`
`23:31.46`	`SycoPrime`	`Aww, I thought my map would be the first to have landsharks.`
`23:32.15`	`SycoPrime`	`Anyway, is it possible to change a model's texture in game?`
`23:35.07`	`Otixa`	`straps a landshark to Lilianna`
`23:35.14`	`Xaragoth`	`No Landsharks.`
`23:35.16`	`Xaragoth`	`Its Swampsharks`
`23:35.34`	`Phaos`	`yeah theres a difference GAWSH`
`23:35.53`	`Lilianna`	`But I want landsharks`
`23:35.55`	`Lilianna`	`swamps are icky`
`23:36.02`	`Lilianna`	`and make my shoes all messy`
`23:36.03`	`Phaos`	`so says you!`
`23:36.03`	`Xaragoth`	`Swamps are a great practice target`
`23:36.03`	`Xaragoth`	`^^`
`23:36.05`	`Otixa`	`I want sharklands`
`23:36.13`	`Phaos`	`those were my favorite pumps :(`
`23:36.44`	`Otixa`	`smacks Phaos`
`23:36.59`	`Phaos`	`no one gets my refrence yay !`
`23:37.34`	`Otixa`	`hax >:\|`
`23:37.40`	`Phaos`	`srs`
`23:38.27`	`Otixa`	`srs? :<`
`23:39.48`	`Otixa`	`http://xkcd.com/`
`23:43.54`	`LordAbyss`	`is there a way to disable a unit from returning to its original location after it gets to far`
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`23:59.52`	`Mirvra`	`anyone wanna play a game of Probes and Roaches with me on EU? <.<`

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