| 00:00.46 | crazyfingers | found it |
| 00:00.51 | crazyfingers | it's under loading screen |
| 00:00.53 | crazyfingers | under map options |
| 00:00.59 | crazyfingers | "wait for key" just click that off |
| 00:01.36 | RedWraith | crazyfingers, stop getting my hopes up |
| 00:01.37 | RedWraith | autostart |
| 00:01.38 | RedWraith | you know |
| 00:01.41 | RedWraith | AUTOSTART |
| 00:01.42 | RedWraith | :P |
| 00:01.48 | RedWraith | The one that everyone hates |
| 00:01.56 | crazyfingers | ohhh woops |
| 00:01.59 | crazyfingers | my bad :D |
| 00:06.57 | madsquare | ohh light issues |
| 00:07.25 | madsquare | does anyone know a way to affect brightness and contrast for players who have their graphics on low? |
| 00:08.08 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 00:08.24 | crazyfingers | hmm, is it premade game? in game varients? |
| 00:08.28 | crazyfingers | just a shot in the dark |
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| 00:09.45 | KineMorto | sup dudes? |
| 00:10.05 | Vulfe | not |
| 00:10.06 | Vulfe | much |
| 00:10.17 | crazyfingers | sup kine? |
| 00:11.10 | KineMorto | nothing playing with explicit rotation and trying to figure out why its not working. |
| 00:11.21 | KineMorto | trying to flip the installation roof upside down. |
| 00:11.40 | crazyfingers | that with actor events? |
| 00:11.53 | KineMorto | no Site Ops |
| 00:11.59 | crazyfingers | ahh |
| 00:12.09 | crazyfingers | you using origin? |
| 00:12.17 | KineMorto | I think doodads can not be rotated? |
| 00:12.19 | crazyfingers | wait that's probably not what you want to do |
| 00:12.21 | KineMorto | Idk. |
| 00:12.36 | KineMorto | Its how I flip everything else |
| 00:13.10 | crazyfingers | dunno man, haven't messed with doodads much |
| 00:13.27 | crazyfingers | i'd look at the doodad in the previewer to see what kind of points it has |
| 00:13.44 | KineMorto | Thats for attachments I'm not trying to attach anything. |
| 00:13.50 | KineMorto | Just trying to change its vectors |
| 00:15.31 | KineMorto | Ohhh I have an idea though. |
| 00:16.24 | crazyfingers | just make it a unit? |
| 00:16.32 | KineMorto | nah close though. |
| 00:22.14 | KineMorto | about to see if it worked |
| 00:23.36 | mattavich-377 | Is it meant to be much more appropriate to user (owner of unit (killing unit)) than (killing player)? |
| 00:24.06 | KineMorto | no its just more complex |
| 00:24.10 | KineMorto | which != good |
| 00:24.17 | KineMorto | you have to have the simplest solution |
| 00:24.23 | KineMorto | that meets your goals |
| 00:25.47 | mattavich-377 | i know, but i think (killing player) is not specific enough |
| 00:25.49 | mattavich-377 | nevermind |
| 00:26.08 | KineMorto | what killing player probably does is go owner of killing unit |
| 00:26.11 | KineMorto | just do what makes sense |
| 00:26.19 | KineMorto | something like that isnt going to make a difference |
| 00:26.33 | KineMorto | nesting 6 loops deep like that guy on the bnet forums is where you run into problems. |
| 00:26.38 | Blacksoldier | how to get units from the campaign into my map? |
| 00:27.02 | KineMorto | load the dependencies |
| 00:27.04 | KineMorto | under file |
| 00:27.52 | Blacksoldier | hmm i watch a tut - sorry for disturb yet ^^ |
| 00:28.42 | Vulfe | GAH. |
| 00:28.48 | Vulfe | Why are there region locks |
| 00:28.57 | Vulfe | I used to play wc3 custom games on EU all the time |
| 00:28.59 | Vulfe | this is so lameeeeee |
| 00:29.04 | KineMorto | because distributors are not trustworthy |
| 00:29.28 | KineMorto | if you sell it to them at a price that people in that region can afford |
| 00:29.37 | KineMorto | they turn around and resell it in EU or America. |
| 00:29.57 | mattavich-377 | I dont care much about US |
| 00:30.02 | mattavich-377 | My map is EU only :P |
| 00:30.08 | KineMorto | I dont think you were really wanting an answer though |
| 00:30.19 | Vulfe | there's a reason that internet cafes exist |
| 00:30.26 | Vulfe | for licensing like that |
| 00:30.36 | KineMorto | well in latin american its like 5 dollars a month |
| 00:30.38 | Vulfe | which would eliminate the need for region locks based on that justification |
| 00:30.49 | KineMorto | then after you have paid for a year you get the game |
| 00:31.03 | KineMorto | apparently the taxes are outrageous down there with all the el presidentes |
| 00:31.08 | Vulfe | that seems fine to me |
| 00:31.30 | KineMorto | so its the only way to make it affordable for people who are for all intensive purposes very poor. |
| 00:31.32 | Vulfe | why don't they do that in other places then? |
| 00:31.38 | mattavich-377 | I installed virtualdub but the codecs installed on my computer dont seem to be showing in the list. Have i done somehting wrong? |
| 00:31.46 | Vulfe | then they can't sell something they don't own |
| 00:31.46 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 00:32.00 | Vulfe | well |
| 00:32.00 | RedWraith | I wish I could bump my own map |
| 00:32.02 | RedWraith | :( |
| 00:32.03 | Vulfe | I guess if you mean accounts |
| 00:32.06 | Vulfe | then it's a problem |
| 00:32.10 | Vulfe | but not very much of a problem still |
| 00:32.22 | Vulfe | still doesn't justify region locks |
| 00:32.26 | Vulfe | especially between EU and US |
| 00:32.35 | Vulfe | and Korea |
| 00:32.41 | Vulfe | which are the only regions I really care about anyway |
| 00:33.58 | Blacksoldier | wtf |
| 00:34.15 | Blacksoldier | when i change the order of the dependencies it works? |
| 00:34.19 | Blacksoldier | why? |
| 00:34.26 | Blacksoldier | whats the order for |
| 00:34.28 | Blacksoldier | ... |
| 00:35.35 | Vulfe | put campaign above core above multiplayer |
| 00:35.36 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 00:36.51 | Blacksoldier | is there any sense? or is it better to stop thikning about? |
| 00:37.57 | Vulfe | there's some sort of order to it |
| 00:38.00 | Vulfe | not sure what exactly though |
| 00:41.07 | Blacksoldier | k thanks |
| 00:41.11 | Blacksoldier | i g2g |
| 00:41.14 | Blacksoldier | gn8 |
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| 01:00.47 | KineMorto | woot |
| 01:00.52 | KineMorto | I now have a ceiling |
| 01:00.59 | KineMorto | and my actor sits down |
| 01:01.03 | KineMorto | time for a victory smoke. |
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| 01:12.47 | ElemenoSC | is there anyway to see it a unit type has a kill resource set in data editor through the use of triggers? |
| 01:14.20 | crazyfingers | maybe add all units that give resources to a unit group |
| 01:14.25 | crazyfingers | then check to see if they're in that group? |
| 01:17.05 | RodOfNOD | was the contest ending last night or this night? |
| 01:17.11 | Triceron | last night |
| 01:17.33 | RodOfNOD | 100% sure? |
| 01:17.44 | Triceron | 12:00am Sept 11 |
| 01:18.44 | RodOfNOD | no team color but this is cool looking: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/general-warfield/?page=2#comments |
| 01:18.46 | ElemenoSC | ye crazyfingers i figured as much, was just wonder if there was a trigger i was overlooking that could view that data. |
| 01:19.15 | RodOfNOD | yes ElemenoSC there is |
| 01:19.16 | RodOfNOD | catalog |
| 01:19.35 | RodOfNOD | well not a set but the value |
| 01:21.51 | mattavich-377 | anyone on EU find it in their ehart to help a lonely sole boost their map on EU? :( |
| 01:21.55 | mattavich-377 | heart* |
| 01:22.45 | mattavich-377 | Obelisk hellfire, page 3 eu |
| 01:22.57 | mattavich-377 | people started to play it and then the damn system reset |
| 01:23.42 | ZarafFaraz | yo |
| 01:24.38 | Rayden | so i set the colors of players 1 and 2 in variants |
| 01:24.39 | Rayden | didn't work |
| 01:28.01 | ElemenoSC | thats what i was looking for thanks RodOfNOD |
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| 01:29.19 | RRMaper | How would I make an intercepter carry around (and use) a perdition turret firebeam? |
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| 01:36.53 | Rayden | give the interceptor the weapon |
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| 01:39.10 | RRMaper | Do I just double click on the weapon? |
| 01:39.12 | RRMaper | area |
| 01:39.45 | Rayden | try adding the weapon and removing the old one |
| 01:39.47 | Rayden | see what happens |
| 01:39.56 | Rayden | i'm guessing they don't use a turret |
| 01:40.48 | RRMaper | Yea, maybe just a firebat weapon |
| 01:41.03 | Vulfe | Oh |
| 01:41.04 | Vulfe | Hi everyone |
| 01:41.11 | Vulfe | How's it going? ^^ |
| 01:41.18 | RRMaper | How would I add one? |
| 01:42.44 | RRMaper | I tried control w |
| 01:43.00 | RRMaper | Wait |
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| 01:44.07 | RRMaper | Hm, yea |
| 01:45.07 | RRMaper | I'll be back |
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| 02:09.36 | SuraklinSC2 | Expanding search! |
| 02:09.51 | SuraklinSC2 | This must be one expansive search! |
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| 02:26.28 | Vulfe | Extremely expansive search |
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| 02:46.04 | Vulfe | EVERYONE IS DEAD |
| 02:46.22 | crazyfingers | yeah |
| 02:51.22 | rrowland | If you guys are interested in creating a sprite-based map: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/11272-tutorial-using-rrowlands-sprite-engine/ |
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| 03:02.38 | Fromethius | blargh |
| 03:03.09 | Fromethius | ok so if you have a behavior that changes the damage fraction of a unit by -.5 and the unit will go from doing 200 damage to doing 100 damage |
| 03:03.10 | ekcolnovkol | sprite version of dota |
| 03:03.13 | ekcolnovkol | xD |
| 03:03.23 | Fromethius | however, if you apply that behavior again instead of doing 50 damage (what i want) it does 0 damage |
| 03:03.34 | Fromethius | anyone know how to fix this? |
| 03:03.59 | Fromethius | it appears it is adding the damage fractions instead of multiplying them |
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| 03:10.09 | KineMorto | Hello. |
| 03:11.27 | IskatuMesk | yo |
| 03:11.58 | KineMorto | anything interesting going on in here? |
| 03:13.22 | Fromethius | yeah there was a party before you showed up >:( |
| 03:13.42 | KineMorto | seems to be a trend :( |
| 03:13.48 | Fromethius | lol |
| 03:16.01 | Vulfe | Whoa |
| 03:16.05 | Vulfe | there are people in here |
| 03:17.32 | KineMorto | ur people in here |
| 03:18.06 | Fromethius | anyone here good with math? |
| 03:18.09 | Fromethius | i need an algorithm |
| 03:18.15 | KineMorto | what type of math? |
| 03:18.20 | KineMorto | does it involve numbers? |
| 03:18.23 | KineMorto | or pie? |
| 03:18.37 | Fromethius | ok |
| 03:18.41 | KineMorto | (I like pie) |
| 03:18.44 | Fromethius | basically i have a changeling that deals 200 damage |
| 03:18.50 | Fromethius | if you replicate him each one does 100 |
| 03:19.01 | Fromethius | if you replicate one of those replicates each one does 50 |
| 03:19.04 | KineMorto | what is replicate? |
| 03:19.07 | Fromethius | so then it'd be 50-50-100 |
| 03:19.11 | KineMorto | So he splits? |
| 03:19.21 | Fromethius | no matter how many replicates or clones of the changeling there are they always add up to 200 |
| 03:19.33 | Fromethius | i have this data: |
| 03:19.39 | KineMorto | Im Zany for Custom Values |
| 03:19.50 | Fromethius | if there are 0, add 8 (50% damage) |
| 03:19.51 | Fromethius | if there are 8, add 4 (75% damage) |
| 03:19.54 | Fromethius | if there are 12, add 2 (87.5% damage) |
| 03:19.57 | Fromethius | if there are 14, add 1 (93.75% damage) |
| 03:20.19 | Fromethius | basically i have a behavior that reduces damage output fraction by -.0625 |
| 03:20.25 | KineMorto | ok chill out with all the scarry numbers |
| 03:20.33 | KineMorto | so the mechanic |
| 03:20.35 | Fromethius | and based on how many times that behavior is on a unit when it splits is how many are added |
| 03:20.40 | KineMorto | Start with 1 changeling |
| 03:20.49 | Fromethius | i could use if statements but that's lame and ugly |
| 03:20.50 | KineMorto | It splits into how many pieces? |
| 03:20.53 | Fromethius | 2 |
| 03:21.03 | KineMorto | Ok and each one of those can split into two? |
| 03:21.08 | Fromethius | yeah |
| 03:21.15 | Fromethius | it's just like bacteria |
| 03:21.21 | KineMorto | thats dirty |
| 03:21.31 | Fromethius | 200 damage changeling -> 100 damage and 100 damage changelings |
| 03:21.35 | KineMorto | But you want to make sure that the one you are splitting |
| 03:21.39 | KineMorto | k Thats easy |
| 03:21.41 | Fromethius | 100 damage -> 50 damage and 50 damage and 100 damage |
| 03:21.45 | Fromethius | etc |
| 03:21.48 | Fromethius | it always adds up to 200 |
| 03:21.53 | KineMorto | Take your 200 damage changeling and set its custom value to 200 |
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| 03:22.19 | KineMorto | got disced |
| 03:22.26 | KineMorto | Then when it splits |
| 03:22.34 | KineMorto | set the custom value of each of the splits to 100 |
| 03:22.39 | Fromethius | lol.. |
| 03:22.51 | Fromethius | i know |
| 03:22.58 | KineMorto | every time you split just set their custom values based off the caster |
| 03:23.10 | KineMorto | So you know how much damage they should be doing. |
| 03:23.43 | Fromethius | actually |
| 03:23.43 | KineMorto | It cant ever go over 200 because its always two halves |
| 03:23.47 | Fromethius | that isn't a bad idea |
| 03:23.58 | Fromethius | i can just reset all the behaviors on the unit each replicate |
| 03:24.19 | KineMorto | see |
| 03:24.23 | KineMorto | I might fuck with you a little bit |
| 03:24.26 | KineMorto | but ill end up helping |
| 03:24.29 | KineMorto | its a good lesson to learn |
| 03:24.32 | Fromethius | uhm |
| 03:24.38 | Fromethius | hm |
| 03:24.38 | KineMorto | wanna hug? |
| 03:24.41 | Fromethius | this may be do-able |
| 03:24.44 | Fromethius | not now i'm busy =p |
| 03:24.54 | KineMorto | I'll have a headache later |
| 03:25.30 | KineMorto | I manage cargo units by custom value all the time. Theres alot you can do with it. |
| 03:25.51 | KineMorto | lways ask yourself. |
| 03:25.58 | KineMorto | HWCVSTP |
| 03:26.11 | KineMorto | How Would Custom Values Solve This Problem? |
| 03:26.29 | KineMorto | You will live a longer, happier life |
| 03:26.33 | KineMorto | and be more fufilled |
| 03:26.41 | KineMorto | sexually and mentally sound |
| 03:27.50 | Fromethius | you sound like a redditor |
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| 03:28.29 | Mattavich | Hello americans |
| 03:28.39 | Fromethius | *gasp* |
| 03:28.41 | Fromethius | how did you know |
| 03:28.49 | Mattavich | It is 4:30 am in UK |
| 03:28.50 | KineMorto | and thats why you should always keep your tackle, out of the stream |
| 03:28.54 | Mattavich | must be americas time :P |
| 03:28.54 | KineMorto | ok pack it up guys |
| 03:28.55 | KineMorto | lets go |
| 03:29.01 | rrowland | hello males |
| 03:29.14 | KineMorto | Hey Mattavich |
| 03:29.18 | Mattavich | I'm trying to give my map the kiss of life on EU |
| 03:29.20 | rrowland | how did i know |
| 03:29.22 | KineMorto | do you know a guy named craig? |
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| 03:29.26 | Mattavich | yes |
| 03:29.29 | KineMorto | He lives in the Uk. |
| 03:29.30 | Mattavich | craig who? :p |
| 03:29.37 | KineMorto | You know craig |
| 03:29.41 | Mattavich | yep i do |
| 03:29.41 | KineMorto | he has an english accent |
| 03:29.43 | KineMorto | bad teeth |
| 03:29.46 | Mattavich | yeah the english guy |
| 03:29.50 | Mattavich | true |
| 03:29.50 | KineMorto | yea him |
| 03:29.53 | Mattavich | yea |
| 03:29.55 | Mattavich | haha |
| 03:30.07 | Mattavich | Craig Bellamy? |
| 03:30.13 | KineMorto | you know a guy who goes by the handle "thecrate" and works at a shipping company? |
| 03:30.29 | KineMorto | IM asking you if you know any of my UK internet friends. |
| 03:30.33 | Mattavich | lol |
| 03:30.38 | KineMorto | Our first and last names are on a need to know basis |
| 03:30.46 | KineMorto | and unfortunately... you don't need to know. |
| 03:30.53 | Mattavich | I don't know any "thecrate" |
| 03:30.57 | Mattavich | lol |
| 03:31.01 | KineMorto | hes a girl |
| 03:31.12 | Mattavich | but then, my memory is bad |
| 03:31.30 | KineMorto | Its ok I didnt expect you to know any girls. |
| 03:31.30 | Mattavich | Anyone online from EU right now? |
| 03:33.35 | KineMorto | Anyone have a good idea of how to make overhead lights? |
| 03:33.38 | KineMorto | Like indoors? |
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| 03:33.44 | cosgrove | i really need to finish up my damn map |
| 03:33.52 | KineMorto | I have a bitchin cieling |
| 03:34.48 | Mattavich | My map was released about 20 hours ago |
| 03:34.54 | Mattavich | reached 50 games popularity |
| 03:34.58 | Mattavich | people started playing it |
| 03:35.00 | Mattavich | then pop reset |
| 03:35.05 | Mattavich | so im here playing my map |
| 03:35.11 | Mattavich | jsut reaching 50 now |
| 03:35.45 | KineMorto | I think its funny they make you play your own map to get others to even have the chance to play |
| 03:37.06 | Mattavich | yeah |
| 03:37.18 | Mattavich | its not like im even *cheating*, if i dont do this no one will play it |
| 03:37.24 | Mattavich | so it wont even get a chance |
| 03:37.39 | Mattavich | but i think if its a good map, once people get a chance to play it, it sticks quite easily |
| 03:38.19 | Mattavich | i spent a month and half on obelisk hellfire only to have it sit in the middle of nowhere |
| 03:38.59 | RedWraith | Mattavich, I feel the same wy. |
| 03:39.06 | RedWraith | wtf |
| 03:39.08 | RedWraith | when I play my map |
| 03:39.10 | RedWraith | it doesn't bump |
| 03:39.14 | RedWraith | how can you bump yours?! |
| 03:39.16 | RedWraith | D: |
| 03:40.24 | Mattavich | what map is it? |
| 03:40.59 | Mattavich | play for 5 mins |
| 03:41.01 | Mattavich | then quit |
| 03:41.14 | Mattavich | you on EU? |
| 03:45.58 | RedWraith | no |
| 03:46.33 | rrowland | You submitted it to bnet then the contest? |
| 03:49.20 | Mattavich | submitted to contest |
| 03:50.40 | rrowland | arg im nervous |
| 03:51.10 | Mattavich | why? |
| 03:51.17 | thenk | don't worry, it will be some person close to blizzard who wins for sure :P |
| 03:51.29 | Mattavich | I actually think im in with a chance to be honest |
| 03:51.30 | rrowland | Some people have some nice-sounding maps |
| 03:52.20 | rrowland | And I always find ways my map could be so much better |
| 03:52.42 | Mattavich | Yeah well 5 hours after my submission my map was way betetr already :/ |
| 03:52.53 | Mattavich | but 5 hours from my next update it will probably be even better |
| 03:52.55 | Mattavich | so on so forth |
| 03:53.38 | rrowland | Surprised to see so many people only put a week or two in though |
| 03:53.51 | rrowland | Sepnt at least 200 hours on this beast |
| 03:53.56 | rrowland | Spent* |
| 03:54.03 | Mattavich | 60 days me |
| 03:54.10 | Mattavich | 9-12hours a day lol |
| 03:54.23 | rrowland | Yeah well I started when the contest was announce, I'm no cheater |
| 03:54.24 | rrowland | :P |
| 03:54.29 | rrowland | announced* |
| 03:54.32 | Mattavich | i already wanted to create this map |
| 03:54.39 | Mattavich | the contest was just something else i could do it for |
| 03:54.50 | Mattavich | i dont want my map to be just another custom map |
| 03:55.01 | Mattavich | i want it to be a map that people feel they want to be good at |
| 03:55.03 | Mattavich | and win |
| 03:55.09 | Mattavich | competative and pro |
| 03:55.10 | Fromethius | kinemorto |
| 03:55.11 | Mattavich | lol |
| 03:55.16 | Fromethius | what do custom values start at? |
| 03:55.21 | Fromethius | 0, -1, or 100? |
| 03:55.25 | Fromethius | just by default |
| 03:55.34 | KineMorto | fromethius |
| 03:55.41 | KineMorto | wanna go tip to tip? |
| 03:55.46 | Fromethius | =O |
| 03:55.48 | Mattavich | Thenk, have you ever felt like taking a punk, a chance on something? How about doing a review of obelisk hellfire with fraps? |
| 03:55.50 | Triceron | O_o |
| 03:55.52 | KineMorto | (|= |
| 03:55.54 | Mattavich | punt* |
| 03:56.04 | KineMorto | no homo |
| 03:56.19 | KineMorto | Custom values you specify the index you want to store the value in |
| 03:56.22 | KineMorto | and you store it |
| 03:56.24 | Fromethius | yeah |
| 03:56.28 | Fromethius | but what does it start at? |
| 03:56.32 | Mattavich | 0? |
| 03:56.36 | Fromethius | you sure..? |
| 03:56.37 | KineMorto | I dont think you understand. |
| 03:56.41 | Fromethius | i understand just fine |
| 03:56.45 | Fromethius | but if you don't assign a value to index 0 |
| 03:56.49 | Fromethius | and you just get the value |
| 03:56.52 | Fromethius | what value does it return? |
| 03:56.54 | KineMorto | Its a value custom to that unit |
| 03:56.59 | Fromethius | yes i know.... lol |
| 03:57.00 | KineMorto | If you assign 50 to one units 0 |
| 03:57.06 | KineMorto | and 100 to another units 0 |
| 03:57.10 | KineMorto | they return what you put there |
| 03:57.11 | Fromethius | *sigh* |
| 03:57.15 | KineMorto | its totally arbitrary |
| 03:57.22 | Fromethius | but what do they return if you don't assign anything? |
| 03:57.28 | KineMorto | idk |
| 03:57.30 | KineMorto | ask for it |
| 03:57.31 | Fromethius | ok then |
| 03:57.34 | KineMorto | say hey custom value |
| 03:57.35 | KineMorto | what are you |
| 03:57.41 | KineMorto | then it will tell you |
| 03:57.41 | Fromethius | was just wondering if you knew |
| 03:57.43 | Mattavich | o.0 |
| 03:57.45 | Fromethius | so i didn't have to debug it |
| 03:57.47 | KineMorto | or give you a scipt error |
| 03:57.56 | KineMorto | I know <3 |
| 03:58.10 | KineMorto | I havent slept in 2 days im a little edgy =P |
| 03:58.35 | KineMorto | Im pretty sure it just returns 0 though |
| 03:58.40 | KineMorto | as a real |
| 03:59.18 | Mattavich | I once woke up with the name mick hucknel in my head |
| 03:59.21 | Mattavich | i even said it |
| 03:59.33 | Mattavich | and was like "who is this mick hucknell??" "It's a sign" |
| 03:59.46 | Mattavich | then i remember he's that redheaded womanizer |
| 03:59.47 | KineMorto | Reminds me of moose knuckle |
| 03:59.54 | Mattavich | simply red |
| 03:59.56 | KineMorto | and thats a little innappropriate for IRC chats |
| 04:00.09 | Mattavich | "love the thought, of coming home to you, even if i know you can't take it!" |
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| 04:03.05 | PointBlank | anyone around? |
| 04:03.34 | Mattavich | aye |
| 04:03.50 | HeyRevolver | youre not a pirate |
| 04:04.09 | PointBlank | you guys familiar with ability costs i.e. cooldowns? |
| 04:04.20 | Mattavich | sorta |
| 04:04.44 | PointBlank | well i have 3 abilities I based on the wraith's cloak ie toggle off/on |
| 04:05.19 | PointBlank | when i click one it should start a cooldown for all the abilities |
| 04:05.59 | PointBlank | so if i change the cooldown to "global" or "player" it works fine (setting them all to the same link) however it'll do this for all the units i own |
| 04:06.01 | Mattavich | probs need req? but im not expert on data editor at all |
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| 04:06.19 | PointBlank | if i change it to "unit" which should work, it doesn't even activate the ability :( |
| 04:07.02 | Zanam | Just publically posted my contest submission map, Shape Wars, also made a post in the project workplace forum. Enjoy. YouTube video will be posted in the next couple days |
| 04:11.15 | PointBlank | matt do u know what the different indexes on the "Cost +" for abilities do? |
| 04:12.24 | Mattavich | I just know i can change cooldown, costs and things |
| 04:12.51 | PointBlank | ah k, this is more than changing :) |
| 04:14.44 | Mattavich | sorry pointblank |
| 04:14.51 | Mattavich | i tend to work on a "get it to work basis" |
| 04:14.53 | Mattavich | lol |
| 04:15.01 | Mattavich | so im not that good wiht helping |
| 04:15.51 | PointBlank | hehe thx anyway, this works it just could be better |
| 04:15.56 | PointBlank | what i'm doing is making the ARES bot a hero |
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| 04:16.01 | PointBlank | where u can change it's weapons |
| 04:16.07 | PointBlank | but the weapon change animation takes like 4s |
| 04:16.16 | PointBlank | and i want the switch button to be disabled for that long |
| 04:16.54 | PointBlank | there's no requirement for cooldown :( |
| 04:16.58 | PointBlank | only for "can use ability" |
| 04:17.05 | PointBlank | which ignored cooldown check apparently |
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| 04:21.37 | WAR | Want your map boosted? Offering services, 70~80 games played within 6 hours. $10.99 |
| 04:22.00 | Mattavich | I could swear someone is bottsing Hell TD behind me |
| 04:23.02 | Mattavich | I'm going solo right now lol |
| 04:23.22 | WAR | ladder? |
| 04:24.55 | thenk | lol |
| 04:24.58 | thenk | 11 bucks for 6 hours |
| 04:25.00 | thenk | cheap cheap |
| 04:25.28 | PointBlank | or u can just go spend 30min and make an autoit script :P |
| 04:25.52 | thenk | yer :p |
| 04:26.02 | thenk | how long does a game have to last to register on bnet? |
| 04:30.39 | Mattavich | 5min or something |
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| 04:34.25 | Mattavich | what time is it in the US? |
| 04:34.45 | HeyRevolver | 12:35 EST |
| 04:34.58 | HeyRevolver | so 9:35 PST |
| 04:35.06 | HeyRevolver | which is where Blizzard HQ is |
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| 04:36.52 | Mattavich | 5:36 here in UK |
| 04:36.54 | Mattavich | am |
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| 04:37.03 | marine63 | hello |
| 04:37.06 | Mattavich | hi |
| 04:37.36 | Mattavich | have you seen my map thread yet heyrev? |
| 04:38.01 | Mattavich | obelisk hellfire will only be on EU, not releasing it US so this is the only chance you get to see it really |
| 04:38.01 | Mattavich | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/11202-obelisk-hellfire-v1-0-released-today-do-you-have-what/#p4 |
| 04:38.05 | marine63 | any trigger masters? |
| 04:38.20 | Mattavich | I get things working yeh |
| 04:38.55 | marine63 | hah |
| 04:39.20 | marine63 | I want to make a unit run faster when a key use held down |
| 04:39.31 | marine63 | when a key is held down* |
| 04:40.03 | Mattavich | so |
| 04:40.05 | Mattavich | event keypress |
| 04:40.13 | marine63 | and stop running quickly when key is let go |
| 04:40.14 | Mattavich | create behavior |
| 04:40.19 | marine63 | ohhhhh |
| 04:40.21 | marine63 | behavior |
| 04:40.25 | marine63 | of course >.< |
| 04:40.28 | marine63 | im dumb :P |
| 04:40.31 | Mattavich | if it is one particular unit |
| 04:40.33 | Mattavich | you coudl use catalog |
| 04:40.35 | marine63 | yeah |
| 04:40.42 | Mattavich | catalog easier |
| 04:40.48 | Mattavich | if just 1 unit or maybe a handful |
| 04:41.22 | Mattavich | handful of different unit types.... |
| 04:41.22 | Mattavich | lol |
| 04:41.50 | marine63 | dark templars :P |
| 04:42.47 | Mattavich | well you could just use 1 action to change the speed of a unit then |
| 04:42.53 | Mattavich | rather than creating behaviors |
| 04:43.03 | Mattavich | set catalog field value |
| 04:43.20 | Mattavich | you used it before? |
| 04:43.42 | marine63 | >.< |
| 04:43.44 | marine63 | what? |
| 04:43.53 | Mattavich | it is actually really simple |
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| 04:44.09 | yoplay | AH HA! >:D |
| 04:44.13 | Mattavich | Create your trigger with keypress event |
| 04:44.14 | yoplay | any admin in here? |
| 04:44.15 | marine63 | AHH! |
| 04:44.16 | Mattavich | and then... 1 sec |
| 04:44.28 | Mattavich | add action - set catalog field value |
| 04:44.31 | yoplay | Sixen was supposed to have unbanned my account |
| 04:44.36 | yoplay | but I still can't access it :( |
| 04:44.44 | thenk | i kinda got stuck trying to find the XML files to figure out the catalog values to set/get |
| 04:45.08 | yoplay | gorang's around? :) |
| 04:45.12 | yoplay | Qancakes? |
| 04:45.14 | yoplay | Riley? |
| 04:45.15 | yoplay | Mozared? |
| 04:45.22 | yoplay | they are the 4 people i must contact :( |
| 04:45.37 | Mattavich | yeha im here |
| 04:45.39 | Mattavich | im gorang |
| 04:46.05 | yoplay | lies >:O |
| 04:46.09 | yoplay | lol |
| 04:46.13 | yoplay | so ya hmu... |
| 04:46.13 | Mattavich | thenk i will telly uo how now its so simple but data editor confuses people |
| 04:46.22 | Mattavich | it aint a lie |
| 04:46.23 | yoplay | may I publish your Obelisk map on US server? |
| 04:46.26 | marine63 | wth? |
| 04:46.30 | thenk | yes the data editor lies. |
| 04:46.32 | marine63 | catalog field value |
| 04:46.37 | marine63 | head exploded |
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| 04:46.54 | Mattavich | I dont think im gonna do that yoplay :/ |
| 04:46.57 | thenk | marine63 the catalog is the thing which contains teh settings for units |
| 04:47.11 | Mattavich | When did you play my map? |
| 04:47.14 | thenk | all untis gets created on the catalog them when you create them in game they represent the catalog |
| 04:47.26 | yoplay | Never |
| 04:47.28 | yoplay | it just looks awesome |
| 04:47.29 | Mattavich | lol |
| 04:47.29 | Resinate | rod im here |
| 04:47.32 | yoplay | I'm bored... |
| 04:47.32 | Resinate | guys |
| 04:47.36 | Resinate | i need 1 person for arena |
| 04:47.37 | Mattavich | it still has a lot of balancing to go |
| 04:47.39 | Resinate | for usa realms |
| 04:47.39 | thenk | so you can change the catalog using triggers, to make triggers directly change unit values. |
| 04:47.41 | yoplay | us server is full of fucking pricks that play noob maps |
| 04:47.41 | Mattavich | its not ready |
| 04:47.57 | yoplay | resinate, ill help :) |
| 04:48.07 | yoplay | not ready? |
| 04:48.08 | thenk | SEA server just got a few new maps.. SCV Scramble |
| 04:48.12 | yoplay | It's at version 1.0, come on XD |
| 04:48.20 | Mattavich | Do i still need tos how you how to use catalog or you ok? |
| 04:48.20 | thenk | I have half finished version of my Team Survival map.. |
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| 04:48.32 | thenk | and then the Turf Wars map that nobody plays because of blizzard popularity system :( |
| 04:48.39 | yoplay | resinate ... ? |
| 04:48.44 | Mattavich | Not yet, no point releasing an early version to tohers regions |
| 04:48.51 | Mattavich | wait till it gets pro |
| 04:49.00 | thenk | Mattavich i can't figure out how to get the value to set, like what numbers do i use to set attack speed for zerglings for example |
| 04:49.12 | yoplay | imo, when we call v1.0 on a map, its because its ready for public release ;o |
| 04:49.29 | yoplay | resinate... wtf? |
| 04:49.33 | yoplay | you come ask for testers, and you leave? XD |
| 04:49.52 | yoplay | also, I hate people that don't make their map OS >:O |
| 04:50.52 | Mattavich | thenk 1 min just getting it for you |
| 04:51.40 | Resinate | anyone up for kaotic arena |
| 04:51.47 | Resinate | pm Goku 934 on USA realms |
| 04:51.52 | Resinate | we need 1 |
| 04:51.58 | Resinate | so 1st one to pm wins spot |
| 04:52.21 | Mattavich | catalog = unit, |
| 04:52.23 | Mattavich | then |
| 04:52.39 | Mattavich | entry = the ID of the unit |
| 04:52.45 | Mattavich | so in data editor |
| 04:52.49 | Mattavich | double click the unit |
| 04:53.01 | Mattavich | and it pops up with its name then below it the ID of the unit |
| 04:53.08 | Mattavich | so if you duplicated a zergling |
| 04:53.11 | Mattavich | it might be zergling2 |
| 04:53.15 | Mattavich | type that in |
| 04:53.37 | Mattavich | turn raw data on in data editor |
| 04:53.59 | Mattavich | oh wait ive done it wrong haha |
| 04:54.04 | Mattavich | it is the weapon |
| 04:54.11 | Resinate | anyone at all? |
| 04:54.20 | Mattavich | so instead go to weapons and do the same for the zergling claws |
| 04:54.35 | Mattavich | so you can get the entry value |
| 04:54.57 | Mattavich | which is "Claws" as much a si can tell |
| 04:55.04 | Mattavich | make sure you type it exactly as is |
| 04:55.27 | Mattavich | then for fieldpath |
| 04:55.47 | Mattavich | , with raw data on just look down the side and you type in the value after the _ |
| 04:55.53 | Mattavich | so |
| 04:55.58 | Mattavich | CWeapon_Period |
| 04:56.01 | Mattavich | you type in Period |
| 04:56.14 | Mattavich | and then in the last part of the action type the value you want it to be |
| 04:56.20 | Mattavich | did i make sense? :S |
| 04:56.48 | Mattavich | also when you use the set catalog field value action |
| 04:56.56 | Mattavich | it will do this only for the player specified |
| 04:57.11 | Mattavich | so you have to pciekd each player if you want to do ti for all |
| 04:57.33 | Mattavich | thenk |
| 04:57.38 | Mattavich | marine63 |
| 04:57.44 | marine63 | hi |
| 04:57.47 | Mattavich | you get that? |
| 04:58.09 | Mattavich | ^^^^^ that's how you use set catalog field value |
| 04:58.13 | marine63 | </3 |
| 04:58.17 | Mattavich | lol |
| 04:58.43 | thenk | ok yeah i get ya |
| 04:59.53 | Mattavich | you can also use the GET inside a sET to add +1 to something or percentage or whatever |
| 05:00.13 | thenk | yeah |
| 05:00.16 | got_Ammo | just know that catalog field set has a ton of limitations |
| 05:00.18 | Mattavich | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:00.20 | Mattavich | like that |
| 05:00.20 | thenk | cool i can see the raw data stuff now |
| 05:00.46 | Mattavich | It has the limitations yeah but it also allows you to do stuff you wouldn't be able to do otherwise |
| 05:00.55 | got_Ammo | it doesn't let you do anything you couldn't do with an upgrade |
| 05:00.56 | Mattavich | like for me it saved me tons fo time |
| 05:01.00 | Mattavich | when upgrading abilities |
| 05:01.03 | got_Ammo | it's just a way to do upgrades in triggers |
| 05:01.10 | Mattavich | yeha it does, it takes 2 seconds :P |
| 05:01.23 | Mattavich | In my map i have about 9 heros |
| 05:01.31 | Mattavich | each of their abilities upgrade 22 times |
| 05:01.31 | got_Ammo | no I mean you don't get any additional functionality out of it - you can't add fields to things, you can only edit existing fields, you can barely adjust behaviors, etc |
| 05:01.37 | Mattavich | i can do that in 9 triggers |
| 05:01.41 | Mattavich | without upgrades |
| 05:01.47 | Mattavich | saved em so much time |
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| 05:02.01 | Mattavich | well you can get one field and add to another |
| 05:02.12 | Mattavich | that's what i do using the "GET" |
| 05:02.13 | Mattavich | function |
| 05:02.26 | got_Ammo | what I meant is that you can't, for example, add an additional effect to an ability |
| 05:02.36 | Mattavich | oh |
| 05:02.44 | Mattavich | yeha i see |
| 05:03.05 | got_Ammo | if you look at the XML whatever your map has when it starts up, you can only adjust the fields there |
| 05:03.17 | got_Ammo | and then it's a limited subset of those fields |
| 05:03.20 | KineMorto | I got disconnected for flooding? But I wasnt typing? |
| 05:04.15 | thenk | maybe you were hax0ring the serva |
| 05:04.34 | KineMorto | im caught :( |
| 05:04.55 | KineMorto | No like matavish just started throwing lines extremely fast |
| 05:05.01 | KineMorto | so I thought he was screwing with something |
| 05:05.04 | KineMorto | then I got disced lol |
| 05:05.56 | Mattavich | i stole your mhz |
| 05:06.58 | Mattavich | 6am |
| 05:07.00 | Mattavich | i dont care |
| 05:07.05 | Mattavich | i will boost |
| 05:07.18 | Mattavich | 60 days work for something rather than nothing i tell yee |
| 05:07.27 | Xackery | any 3ds users in here? |
| 05:08.00 | Mattavich | There are some real garbage maps high in the list |
| 05:08.09 | Mattavich | dont know how they get there |
| 05:12.02 | KineMorto | I wish the hotkey to run your map was f5 instead of ctrl+f9 |
| 05:12.13 | KineMorto | you knwo what |
| 05:12.16 | KineMorto | I bet you can set it |
| 05:12.16 | KineMorto | lol |
| 05:12.57 | Mattavich | o.O |
| 05:13.11 | Mattavich | what you talkin about? |
| 05:18.06 | thenk | anyone here on SEA able to help test my stuff |
| 05:18.07 | thenk | ? |
| 05:18.41 | Mattavich | not on sea sorry thenk |
| 05:19.22 | thenk | hope they fix bnet lobby soon |
| 05:19.31 | thenk | it sucks atm |
| 05:19.47 | thenk | like you can move someone from player2 spot to player5 spot.. game still thinks they're player2 |
| 05:23.06 | Resinate | OMG IT BURNS!!! |
| 05:27.29 | Mattavich | Just got a pagerank 5 backlink ont he homepage of flytrapgames website |
| 05:27.30 | Mattavich | >.< |
| 05:27.37 | Mattavich | that will do wonders for my blog |
| 05:29.51 | RedWraith | hmm |
| 05:30.05 | RedWraith | Mattavich, you have to understand. |
| 05:30.16 | RedWraith | People don't want to wait all day for a game to fill. |
| 05:30.25 | Mattavich | I know |
| 05:30.25 | RedWraith | And they don't care about your unknown map. |
| 05:30.33 | Mattavich | i know |
| 05:30.34 | RedWraith | It's doooomed for several weeks until people recognize it. |
| 05:30.42 | Mattavich | unless i play it |
| 05:30.46 | Mattavich | until people can reach it |
| 05:31.03 | Mattavich | oh you mena after reset |
| 05:31.05 | Mattavich | yeah true |
| 05:31.14 | Mattavich | hopefully it will gian notoriety quickly |
| 05:31.41 | RodOfNOD | what map u gabbing about Mattavich? |
| 05:32.39 | Mattavich | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/11202-obelisk-hellfire-v1-0-released-today-do-you-have-what |
| 05:32.44 | Mattavich | Obelisk Hellfire |
| 05:32.55 | Mattavich | It is currently position 25 in list |
| 05:32.58 | Mattavich | very top fo page 3 |
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| 05:33.03 | onetwo | hi |
| 05:33.05 | Mattavich | i think once on page 2 people will join it more |
| 05:33.08 | Mattavich | Hey onetwo |
| 05:33.11 | thenk | anything on page2+ sucks. |
| 05:33.33 | rrowland | You mean 2+ as in page 1 or 2 right? |
| 05:33.34 | rrowland | I agree |
| 05:33.35 | onetwo | damnit progammer isnt her |
| 05:33.37 | onetwo | here |
| 05:34.10 | Resinate | guys |
| 05:34.14 | Mattavich | I would say approximately 90% of people who play my mapw hile iw as there said they loved it |
| 05:34.17 | Resinate | i think they enabled self boosting again |
| 05:34.21 | Mattavich | some were like "holy shit this is awesome" |
| 05:34.26 | Mattavich | the only comment i get is balance |
| 05:34.34 | Resinate | yea |
| 05:34.36 | rrowland | Hmm |
| 05:34.38 | Resinate | balance is like 99% of the map |
| 05:34.39 | rrowland | Maybe I'll play it |
| 05:34.40 | rrowland | And see |
| 05:34.44 | thenk | balance is always the issue |
| 05:34.47 | Mattavich | im fighting a losing battle because my map is 8 player and |
| 05:34.50 | RodOfNOD | lol im agreeing with Resinate how unusual... |
| 05:34.52 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:35.00 | Resinate | it took me a week to balance my map |
| 05:35.02 | Mattavich | it sometimes takes up to 2 hours |
| 05:35.11 | Resinate | and i only have 11 units |
| 05:35.23 | Resinate | anyways |
| 05:35.28 | Resinate | time to play a custom SMW game |
| 05:35.35 | thenk | i have a 4player map that can take anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour |
| 05:35.46 | Resinate | same here |
| 05:35.52 | Resinate | more like 10 mins to 2 hours |
| 05:35.58 | Mattavich | a guy came in here before begging to publish obelisk hellfire in US |
| 05:35.59 | Resinate | depending on skill of the player |
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| 05:36.09 | thenk | he didnt beg dude he asked :p |
| 05:36.17 | Mattavich | I said no about 4 times 0_0 |
| 05:36.34 | rrowland | matt can i publish your map on us please |
| 05:36.35 | rrowland | please |
| 05:36.44 | thenk | sea needs it too! |
| 05:36.46 | thenk | -_- |
| 05:36.58 | Mattavich | I will buy a second game if need be but not yet |
| 05:37.08 | rrowland | man are you stupid? sea doesnt need it |
| 05:37.14 | rrowland | since when do fish play video games |
| 05:37.27 | RodOfNOD | lol rrowland :> |
| 05:37.28 | thenk | you hurt teh whales feelings :'( |
| 05:37.57 | RodOfNOD | wellthe sad part of map publishing is it doesnt matter if u dont want ur map published |
| 05:38.03 | RodOfNOD | cuz anyone can publish it now |
| 05:38.07 | rrowland | yeah |
| 05:38.16 | rrowland | Or I could make like 50 maps |
| 05:38.23 | rrowland | With names that are a variation of your map name |
| 05:38.24 | thenk | can post it as locked cant you? |
| 05:38.30 | RodOfNOD | wont help |
| 05:38.31 | rrowland | And then delete them |
| 05:38.33 | RodOfNOD | just delay me |
| 05:38.46 | RodOfNOD | so sad to hear that blizzard are still morons... |
| 05:39.11 | thenk | you can get around locked sc1 maps too? |
| 05:39.12 | RodOfNOD | i truely believe they dont care about map protection they just gave it lip service |
| 05:39.29 | RodOfNOD | well sc1 maps used a non blizzard map editor |
| 05:39.46 | RodOfNOD | very different situation we have here |
| 05:39.59 | Mattavich | i hope we can encrypt better at some point |
| 05:40.02 | Mattavich | they have to |
| 05:40.06 | Mattavich | to make the marketplace work |
| 05:40.09 | RodOfNOD | all we can do atm is obsfucate |
| 05:40.10 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:40.17 | Mattavich | so yeah i thin they will improve because it will hit their pockets |
| 05:40.18 | RodOfNOD | well i truely believe that they cant |
| 05:40.28 | RodOfNOD | if they could have they would have |
| 05:40.31 | Mattavich | cant 100% but make it really difficult |
| 05:40.38 | RodOfNOD | oh they COULD |
| 05:40.41 | RodOfNOD | they choose not to |
| 05:40.50 | RodOfNOD | its like hackers |
| 05:40.56 | RodOfNOD | they dont really care about the players and map hacking |
| 05:41.00 | RodOfNOD | they pay alot of lip service |
| 05:41.04 | RodOfNOD | but in theend they are all talk |
| 05:41.33 | RodOfNOD | i dont know how they can live with themselves though |
| 05:41.41 | RodOfNOD | if i was the head coder id be crying everyday |
| 05:42.34 | RodOfNOD | im thinking that because they ahve talked about the marketplace they might be ripe for lawsuit... i would expected locK TO MEAN u cant break it |
| 05:42.42 | SycoPrime | So, I'm having trouble finding a post that says "Here's all the good maps that came out today". |
| 05:42.54 | RodOfNOD | why dont u start one :> |
| 05:43.43 | KineMorto | sup dudes? |
| 05:44.01 | RodOfNOD | nm |
| 05:44.08 | SycoPrime | I still have yet to play a single map today, so that would be difficult, RodOfNOD :P |
| 05:44.13 | SycoPrime | Hey Kine. How's it going? |
| 05:44.26 | KineMorto | just workin on my map |
| 05:44.53 | Mattavich | Yay it is now morning, light outside i can open the curtains |
| 05:44.59 | KineMorto | I was setting up camera for a cinematic |
| 05:45.11 | KineMorto | and just left my mouse somewhere |
| 05:45.13 | KineMorto | this is what I saw |
| 05:45.14 | KineMorto | http://i56.tinypic.com/dnezyb.jpg |
| 05:45.20 | Mattavich | Just realised i've spent 8 hours through the night playing my own map |
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| 05:53.35 | KineMorto | @Mattavish: What is your map? |
| 05:53.48 | KineMorto | *Mattavich |
| 05:54.05 | Mattavich | oBELISK hELLFIRE |
| 05:54.08 | Mattavich | Oops |
| 05:54.15 | Mattavich | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/11202-obelisk-hellfire-v1-0-released-today-do-you-have-what/#p4 |
| 05:54.17 | Mattavich | there you go |
| 05:54.20 | Mattavich | my promo thread |
| 05:54.36 | Mattavich | Take a look at my awesome photoshop skills(not) |
| 05:55.08 | KineMorto | lol |
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| 05:57.22 | Mattavich | I'm going to try make a video tomorrow to go on youtube showing gameplay |
| 05:57.43 | Mattavich | I'd rather someone more experienced do it but onetwo wont do it and dont really know others |
| 05:58.17 | KineMorto | idk how to do it either |
| 05:58.24 | KineMorto | I dont even have a youtube account |
| 05:58.30 | KineMorto | Im boycotting it |
| 05:58.35 | KineMorto | 1 man strong |
| 05:58.46 | KineMorto | toggle debug |
| 05:58.50 | KineMorto | oops wrong window |
| 05:58.51 | KineMorto | heh |
| 06:01.26 | marine63 | rodofnod ^_^ |
| 06:02.00 | KineMorto | I have work in 8 hours |
| 06:02.05 | KineMorto | fml =( |
| 06:02.11 | marine63 | dont ignore me |
| 06:02.17 | Mattavich | finally im at bottom of page 2 :d |
| 06:03.03 | marine63 | i still don't know how to do it :( |
| 06:03.09 | marine63 | im fail |
| 06:03.47 | thenk | i just posted up a youtube clip of ReckeD's map |
| 06:03.59 | thenk | 40 mins condensed to 15 :P |
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| 06:09.24 | ReckeD | cheers thenk, linky link when your done ^.^ |
| 06:13.19 | KineMorto | Lol I made lighting out of a cone model and te raynor flashlight |
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| 06:19.55 | Mattavich | so tired |
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| 06:20.59 | Dhaminater | ello |
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| 06:21.29 | Nash|327 | kittuns |
| 06:22.07 | Mattavich | morning nash |
| 06:22.23 | Mattavich | Finally released my map |
| 06:22.25 | Mattavich | check it out |
| 06:22.26 | Mattavich | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/11202-obelisk-hellfire-v1-0-released-today-do-you-have-what/ |
| 06:22.45 | Mattavich | It is on page 2 of maplist public already wooo hehe |
| 06:23.07 | Dhaminater | lol |
| 06:24.25 | Dhaminater | anyone know how to model here? |
| 06:24.45 | Mattavich | not me :o |
| 06:25.26 | Nash|327 | I can model using silly putty |
| 06:25.35 | Dhaminater | what does that mean |
| 06:26.12 | Dhaminater | clay doe |
| 06:26.24 | Dhaminater | fanny |
| 06:26.40 | Nash|327 | Any time anyone asks what it means I only think of double rainbow. |
| 06:27.13 | Nash|327 | What does it mean??? |
| 06:27.27 | Dhaminater | clay doe |
| 06:27.33 | thenk | ReckeD |
| 06:27.39 | thenk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrIuQonh6sQ <-- Thrones |
| 06:28.03 | Nash|327 | My brain is not operating at full efficiency. |
| 06:28.56 | Dhaminater | My custom model has troubles colliding!!! |
| 06:29.05 | Dhaminater | Anyone care to help me |
| 06:29.27 | Dhaminater | The backbone or the center part is fine but the front part is not colliding.. |
| 06:30.09 | Dhaminater | Do I need to make attachments? |
| 06:30.19 | Dhaminater | Somebodyyyyyyy answer asap |
| 06:30.21 | Nash|327 | Does SC2 even use per-poly collision detection? I strongly doubt it. |
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| 06:30.41 | Impaler | Hello |
| 06:31.01 | Mattavich | Morning |
| 06:31.03 | Impaler | Anyone know how to change the size of the selection circle around a unit |
| 06:31.09 | Dhaminater | model |
| 06:31.20 | Dhaminater | galaxy editor |
| 06:31.23 | Dhaminater | selection raidus |
| 06:31.32 | Impaler | thx |
| 06:31.39 | Mattavich | yep |
| 06:32.28 | Dhaminater | Is anyones custom models like that though ? |
| 06:32.37 | Resinate | OMFG |
| 06:32.40 | Resinate | AWESOME |
| 06:32.46 | Resinate | i can make my own super mario worlds |
| 06:32.46 | Resinate | LOL |
| 06:32.51 | Nash|327 | No shouting :/ |
| 06:32.56 | Dhaminater | do u need a mario model? |
| 06:33.04 | Nash|327 | I am hung over, please use small letters. |
| 06:33.06 | Resinate | i meant |
| 06:33.10 | Resinate | that the actual game |
| 06:33.14 | Dhaminater | wtf |
| 06:33.16 | Dhaminater | lol |
| 06:33.16 | thenk | i want lots of cool custom modems for my remake of enfos team survival |
| 06:33.18 | thenk | lol |
| 06:33.28 | thenk | models. |
| 06:33.29 | Resinate | sc2 version of mario would such LOL |
| 06:33.39 | Dhaminater | possible |
| 06:33.42 | Dhaminater | very |
| 06:33.49 | Resinate | with jumping |
| 06:33.53 | Resinate | i would just make a mario 64 map |
| 06:34.06 | Dhaminater | make a leaderboard |
| 06:34.31 | Dhaminater | a premium map idea |
| 06:35.28 | Nash|327 | Mario Kart |
| 06:36.53 | thenk | there is a clip on youtube of a mario kart sc2 map |
| 06:37.04 | Nash|327 | hax |
| 06:37.49 | Nash|327 | are zerglings blue shells? |
| 06:37.49 | Dhaminater | ive played it , I think its verry laggy |
| 06:38.01 | thenk | as are most WASD maps |
| 06:38.23 | Dhaminater | somebody came up with a less laggy script of WASD triggers |
| 06:38.43 | Dhaminater | dont know if the creator used it yet |
| 06:38.50 | Nash|327 | "less laggy" is not a good sell |
| 06:39.24 | Nash|327 | "Now with 30% less suckage!" |
| 06:40.11 | RedWraith | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 06:40.18 | purl | tehwildcard <~Jer@pool-96-252-135-143.tampfl.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 18h 52m 53s ago, saying: 'I wouldn't know how to fix it, Matta'. |
| 06:40.38 | Mattavich | :o? |
| 06:40.43 | Dhaminater | i made a frost mourne sword just now |
| 06:40.53 | Nash|327 | It hungers? |
| 06:40.53 | Dhaminater | if anyone know what that means |
| 06:40.59 | Dhaminater | ye |
| 06:41.39 | Nash|327 | It seems reasonable to assume that most people active in SC2 mapping here have at least played WarCraft 3. |
| 06:41.47 | Mattavich | i havent |
| 06:41.52 | Dhaminater | there u go |
| 06:42.03 | Nash|327 | Your loss. |
| 06:42.14 | Dhaminater | brains |
| 06:42.32 | Dhaminater | theres a guy named arthas |
| 06:42.34 | Dhaminater | in here |
| 06:42.38 | Dhaminater | he knows what im talking about |
| 06:43.05 | Nash|327 | Maybe he just punched random letters when it came to picking a nick. |
| 06:43.44 | Mattavich | im struggling to stay awake |
| 06:43.59 | Nash|327 | I wanted to sleep more. |
| 06:44.05 | Mattavich | im in uk |
| 06:44.05 | Nash|327 | But nooo. |
| 06:44.07 | Mattavich | been up all night |
| 06:44.11 | Dhaminater | doing what |
| 06:44.35 | Mattavich | tweaking my map |
| 06:44.36 | Nash|327 | I was at a party until about 4 hours ago. |
| 06:44.39 | Mattavich | sinc eit is live |
| 06:44.48 | Dhaminater | I went to tiestos concert |
| 06:44.55 | Nash|327 | I could use more sleep, but alcohol fucks with your sleeping. |
| 06:45.04 | Dhaminater | Now im playing tiesto music while modelling |
| 06:45.08 | Nash|327 | I have woken up and cannot get back to sleep. |
| 06:45.44 | Nash|327 | Also, my head hurts. |
| 06:45.57 | Nash|327 | Woe unto me. |
| 06:46.10 | Mattavich | nash |
| 06:46.14 | Mattavich | have a quick look at my map |
| 06:46.19 | Mattavich | i want to show you what i created |
| 06:46.25 | Mattavich | it is on page 2 of EU |
| 06:46.28 | Mattavich | obelisk hellfire |
| 06:46.49 | Nash|327 | Eh, I am suffering from general apathy and decreased brain functionality. |
| 06:46.53 | Nash|327 | Maybe another time. |
| 06:46.59 | Mattavich | you dont have to do anything |
| 06:47.03 | Mattavich | you can even alt tab |
| 06:47.06 | Mattavich | just leave it open for 5 mins |
| 06:47.10 | Mattavich | :D |
| 06:47.18 | Nash|327 | No map boosting D: |
| 06:47.41 | Mattavich | i just want someone to give my map the kiss of life :( |
| 06:47.48 | Mattavich | it is good, but no one can find it |
| 06:48.05 | Nash|327 | The popularity system sucks, but boosting maps just makes it worse. :G |
| 06:48.50 | Mattavich | Have you seen some of the crap at the top of the list? |
| 06:50.27 | Nash|327 | It's hard to miss when you have to get through it to find a map. |
| 06:50.54 | Nash|327 | I don't pay much attention to it though, so it barely registers. |
| 06:51.47 | ReckeD | WooT!! http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/thrones/forum/10722-welcome/#p2 |
| 06:51.49 | ReckeD | its coming!! |
| 06:53.45 | Mattavich | lol |
| 06:59.53 | Mattavich | think im going to have to go sleep for a while |
| 06:59.58 | Mattavich | in 5 mins |
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| 07:11.27 | HeyRevolver | I am trying to create a death model at a point.. but when I attach the death model to the point it just shows the unit standing still |
| 07:12.43 | HeyRevolver | anyone know how to play an animation or properly attach an animated unit model to a point? I got the region and point of dying unit down.. its just the actual model not working |
| 07:13.36 | Nash|327 | Ah, the joys of undocumented development tools. |
| 07:16.10 | Dhaminater | thats what I hate |
| 07:16.22 | Dhaminater | no documented tools |
| 07:16.26 | Dhaminater | ridicolous |
| 07:17.24 | Dhaminater | did u make the models urself heyrevolver |
| 07:19.00 | HeyRevolver | no |
| 07:19.18 | HeyRevolver | I am trying to attach Ghost Death Blast to the point of a triggering unit |
| 07:19.28 | HeyRevolver | and the unit is hidden at the time it is triggered |
| 07:19.30 | Dhaminater | oh |
| 07:19.40 | Nash|327 | ridiculous is ridiculously often misspelled |
| 07:19.42 | HeyRevolver | i am trying to create the illusion of a death bc I use incapacitation |
| 07:20.03 | HeyRevolver | I have everything except the actual model attachment |
| 07:20.35 | Nash|327 | Why are you trying to create the illusion? |
| 07:21.45 | HeyRevolver | they are hero units with items and inventories |
| 07:22.12 | Nash|327 | Ah, so to avoid that whole item dropping mess. |
| 07:22.17 | HeyRevolver | yup |
| 07:22.34 | HeyRevolver | I can have it play any reguar impactFX |
| 07:22.40 | HeyRevolver | but the Unit Death models wont show |
| 07:23.06 | HeyRevolver | and I would prefer an exploding unit to a puff of purple smoke or a raynor big blood impact |
| 07:23.18 | Dhaminater | there seems to be a problem with this. |
| 07:23.19 | Dhaminater | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/8926-data-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty/?page=2#posts |
| 07:23.24 | Nash|327 | Did you look through the Valerian05a heroes to see how it plays the "I've fallen down and I can't get up" animation? |
| 07:23.31 | Dhaminater | someone posted a question like you |
| 07:23.34 | HeyRevolver | I dont want that gay shit |
| 07:23.36 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 07:23.40 | HeyRevolver | thanks Dham |
| 07:23.43 | HeyRevolver | I wil check it out |
| 07:23.56 | HeyRevolver | Nash I want my units to explode |
| 07:24.37 | Nash|327 | You're using the same Behavior, though? |
| 07:25.07 | HeyRevolver | yeah |
| 07:25.11 | Nash|327 | And when the unit "dies" some sort of animation is played. |
| 07:25.13 | HeyRevolver | Hero Incapacitation |
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| 07:25.47 | HeyRevolver | it plays 2 sounds, an animation, the unit is hidden, made invuln, and instantly moved |
| 07:25.50 | MrDeath | anyone wanna party up for some custom maps? |
| 07:25.54 | HeyRevolver | oh and it creates a revealer |
| 07:26.02 | HeyRevolver | at the point of death, since the hero is instantly moed |
| 07:26.08 | HeyRevolver | moved* |
| 07:26.27 | Nash|327 | It should just be a matter of copying and changing the animation played? |
| 07:26.42 | HeyRevolver | It is done with triggers |
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| 07:26.51 | HeyRevolver | oh you mean |
| 07:26.53 | ThunderLord | Is there a way that i can make a Firebat animate like a marauder? like each time it attacks the arm moves with recoil and stuf? |
| 07:26.55 | HeyRevolver | copy the valer trigger |
| 07:27.29 | Dhaminater | thunderlord you need a 3d modelling program for that. |
| 07:27.31 | Nash|327 | Well, you are using the same Behavior, so probably there's something in the actors for those heroes. |
| 07:27.40 | ThunderLord | they have those? |
| 07:27.42 | ThunderLord | where? |
| 07:27.43 | ThunderLord | when |
| 07:27.45 | ThunderLord | who |
| 07:27.47 | ThunderLord | how? |
| 07:27.50 | Dhaminater | lol |
| 07:27.58 | ThunderLord | gimme |
| 07:27.58 | ThunderLord | now |
| 07:28.07 | Dhaminater | complex shit man |
| 07:28.17 | ThunderLord | im a complex person |
| 07:28.18 | ThunderLord | hit me! |
| 07:28.22 | HeyRevolver | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3d+modeling |
| 07:28.27 | ThunderLord | BOOM! |
| 07:28.34 | ThunderLord | jumping in |
| 07:28.36 | Nash|327 | I thought the arm does move. |
| 07:28.37 | ThunderLord | here i go |
| 07:28.46 | ThunderLord | *holds breath* |
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| 07:28.53 | Nash|327 | I gave a Firebat Marauder grenades. |
| 07:29.05 | ThunderLord | LOL!!!!!!!! |
| 07:29.11 | Dhaminater | did it shoot like a maurader ? |
| 07:29.11 | tordecybombo | how would i make a posion behavior that decreases a unit's current hp by 10% of its max hp every second? |
| 07:29.13 | ThunderLord | HOW DID YOU DO THAT!!! |
| 07:29.22 | Nash|327 | Maybe I am remembering incorrectly, but I have the impression that the arm moved. |
| 07:29.32 | tordecybombo | how would i make a poison behavior that decreases a unit's current hp by 10% of its max hp every second? |
| 07:29.38 | HeyRevolver | Nash the trigger has nothing to do with anims looks like they did it all with data |
| 07:30.02 | tordecybombo | no triggers! |
| 07:30.02 | Nash|327 | Yes, hence why you should look in the actors and behaviors. |
| 07:30.10 | Dhaminater | tordecybombo create modify unit effect. and create set effect. and creat apply behaviour put apply and modify unit effect into set effect |
| 07:30.18 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 07:30.24 | HeyRevolver | im not trying to play the naimation on the unit |
| 07:30.30 | HeyRevolver | its at the point the unit dies |
| 07:30.31 | ThunderLord | LET ME GOOGLE THAT FOR YOU!!! |
| 07:30.33 | ThunderLord | ROFL! |
| 07:30.36 | HeyRevolver | becvause the unit itself is instantly moved |
| 07:30.47 | tordecybombo | was just about to ask if the modify unit can do fraction based modifcation |
| 07:31.52 | Dhaminater | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.23 | Nash|327 | maybe you should wait with moving the unit until death animation is done playing? |
| 07:32.33 | Nash|327 | Workarounds ftw |
| 07:33.27 | HeyRevolver | well, i cant because if they die in an active capture zone they still progress the progress bar, and I added conditions to stop it, but they never worked |
| 07:33.34 | HeyRevolver | so this was already a workaround lol |
| 07:33.59 | Dhaminater | u want explosions at the point where the unit dies? |
| 07:34.03 | HeyRevolver | no |
| 07:34.08 | HeyRevolver | I want Ghost Death Blast |
| 07:34.13 | Nash|327 | maybe you should have another go at those conditions |
| 07:34.22 | Dhaminater | and u want to do this through triggers? |
| 07:34.28 | Dhaminater | or data |
| 07:34.28 | Nash|327 | Seems easier to get working. |
| 07:35.19 | HeyRevolver | well before I realizes the "dead" unit was progressing the bar, the model attachment still wasnt working, it would just attach the static model to my unit |
| 07:35.33 | HeyRevolver | Dham, triggers |
| 07:35.53 | HeyRevolver | I just want to know how to create a standalong model or animation or actor or whatever lol |
| 07:35.57 | HeyRevolver | standalone* |
| 07:37.27 | HeyRevolver | i need a trigger that is like "Create 1 shot model animation" lol |
| 07:38.10 | Dhaminater | theres an action create model at point. |
| 07:38.26 | HeyRevolver | thats what im using |
| 07:38.31 | HeyRevolver | it just creates a static model |
| 07:38.31 | Dhaminater | i see |
| 07:38.32 | HeyRevolver | of a ghost |
| 07:38.37 | Dhaminater | oh |
| 07:38.45 | HeyRevolver | the ImpactFX work fine |
| 07:38.54 | HeyRevolver | its the Unit Death models that arent showing up properly |
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| 07:40.27 | Dhaminater | its because the unit death is part of the ghostt actor |
| 07:41.03 | HeyRevolver | so if i create the actor |
| 07:41.05 | HeyRevolver | at the point |
| 07:41.07 | HeyRevolver | and the model? |
| 07:41.16 | Dhaminater | yea |
| 07:41.34 | Dhaminater | create a death actor |
| 07:41.36 | Dhaminater | or something |
| 07:42.14 | HeyRevolver | you can only choose the ghost actor |
| 07:42.26 | HeyRevolver | so I will try attaching the actor to the point, then attaching the model to last created |
| 07:42.42 | Dhaminater | try it |
| 07:44.48 | HeyRevolver | yeah i dont think you can attach a model to an actor |
| 07:47.27 | Nash|327 | Lazy coder's toolkit: 1) Workarounds 2) "It's not a bug, it's a feature" 3) Fuck it, I'll just do something else. |
| 07:47.55 | HeyRevolver | #2 |
| 07:47.59 | HeyRevolver | is half of my features |
| 07:48.01 | HeyRevolver | so shhhhhhhhh |
| 07:48.16 | ReckeD | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/thrones/forum/10722-welcome/ Anyone offer any feedback perty prease? |
| 07:48.22 | Nash|327 | I use 1 and 3 a fair bit |
| 07:48.52 | ReckeD | i limit myself to 1 and 2= p |
| 07:49.24 | Nash|327 | SEA map D: |
| 07:50.04 | KineMorto | Ill convert a int to a real just because you cant pass any non boolean values from a struct in a decision statement on the left hand side lol. |
| 07:50.11 | ReckeD | if it takes off here, ill see what i can do about getting it published in US/EU |
| 07:50.51 | Nash|327 | I tried to get my map on NA, but localization fucked me over. |
| 07:51.55 | KineMorto | is that really holy diver |
| 07:52.00 | KineMorto | as a soundtrack to a sc map? |
| 07:52.21 | ReckeD | dont ask me, ask thenk, he forgot to record sound so he just dubed with music =P |
| 07:52.43 | KineMorto | holy diver is cool I just dont think it fits sc |
| 07:53.00 | ReckeD | the vid gets the job done |
| 07:53.03 | KineMorto | I cant believe I just said holy diver was good |
| 07:53.06 | KineMorto | fml |
| 07:53.08 | KineMorto | im going to bed |
| 07:53.10 | Dhaminater | I just made a gnoll slasher converted and made a protoss look armor |
| 07:53.26 | Nash|327 | Why didn't you make your own video? |
| 07:53.31 | ReckeD | nub. |
| 07:53.50 | ReckeD | im nub.* |
| 07:54.02 | Dhaminater | Who wants a gnoll slasher in their maps |
| 07:54.07 | Nash|327 | I am nub too. |
| 07:54.46 | Nash|327 | But running Fraps and pressing F9 to record and throwing stuff together in Windows Movie Maker isn't that hard. |
| 07:55.03 | Dhaminater | uploading is a long process if you dont compress |
| 07:55.04 | Dhaminater | lol |
| 07:55.04 | ReckeD | youd think so wouldnt you nash |
| 07:55.13 | Nash|327 | I know so! |
| 07:55.20 | ReckeD | i got to 9 attempts before i gave up |
| 07:55.26 | ReckeD | either the quality was too poo |
| 07:55.28 | ReckeD | poor* |
| 07:55.30 | Dhaminater | its almost 1 gb for 30 seconds high resolution |
| 07:55.39 | ReckeD | or the upload fucks up |
| 07:55.57 | ReckeD | finally got a decent vid, hten my upload got to 90% and gave me an error |
| 07:56.06 | ReckeD | tried again, and it said video was a duplicate |
| 07:56.11 | Dhaminater | where did u upload |
| 07:56.12 | ReckeD | and i was like 'zzz' |
| 07:56.16 | ReckeD | youtube |
| 07:56.19 | Dhaminater | HA |
| 07:56.21 | Nash|327 | I saved it in WMM, turns it to WMV which you can upload. |
| 07:56.31 | picklefish | ROARRRRRRRRRR final leve of single player on hard with nydus worms is RAGE inducing |
| 07:56.32 | Nash|327 | ReckeD: I have no idea what that map is about. |
| 07:56.49 | Dhaminater | have u guys seen the zerg crypt lord |
| 07:56.58 | Dhaminater | its pretty sick |
| 07:57.09 | Dhaminater | i want to use that |
| 07:58.29 | Nash|327 | The video doesn't really give you much information, it's just 14 minutes of random fighting shots? |
| 07:58.40 | Dhaminater | lol |
| 07:58.49 | ReckeD | its a remake of castle fight |
| 07:59.01 | Nash|327 | I have no idea what Castle Fight is. |
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| 07:59.53 | Dhaminater | who wants to make a team |
| 07:59.56 | Dhaminater | to make dark deeds |
| 08:00.22 | Dhaminater | anyone know what dark deeds is? |
| 08:00.44 | Nash|327 | The video is neither explanatory nor enticing, I'm afraid. |
| 08:01.04 | Nash|327 | Perhaps you are relying on people to have played Castle Fight. |
| 08:01.13 | Dhaminater | I want to see this video |
| 08:01.17 | Dhaminater | share me the link |
| 08:03.10 | Nash|327 | I recommend more hand-picked video, not just recording a whole game, along with more explanatory text or commentary. |
| 08:05.11 | ReckeD | cheers for the feedback nash, its all helpful, ill see what i can do to improve it |
| 08:06.08 | Nash|327 | I did it this way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFSwNS_GWM8 |
| 08:06.43 | Nash|327 | Not a great video aesthetically, but it serves its purpose. |
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| 08:08.32 | Dhaminater | arthas has been made still gona do the textures |
| 08:08.33 | Nash|327 | Not a video of the map, per se, just the classes. |
| 08:09.26 | Nash|327 | I recorded each ability, trimmed the video clips, added some text and voice commentary. |
| 08:09.41 | ReckeD | using WMM? |
| 08:09.50 | Nash|327 | Fraps, WMM and Audacity |
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| 08:10.10 | ReckeD | audacity purely sound? |
| 08:10.14 | Nash|327 | yup |
| 08:10.20 | ReckeD | k |
| 08:10.27 | Nash|327 | All the voice recordings. |
| 08:10.58 | ReckeD | im using debut video capture software and WMM to edit |
| 08:11.08 | Nash|327 | Record sound, edit together the parts where you didn't fuck up. |
| 08:11.08 | ReckeD | Nash, do you compress before you uplaod to youtube? |
| 08:11.18 | Nash|327 | I just saved the video in WMM |
| 08:11.23 | Nash|327 | so it's a WMV file |
| 08:12.16 | Nash|327 | 108 MB |
| 08:12.28 | Nash|327 | which is manageable to upload |
| 08:13.48 | ReckeD | 108mb for 10 minute clip? thats pretty decent isnt it |
| 08:14.47 | Nash|327 | it's not great by any means |
| 08:15.25 | Nash|327 | XVID video would be smaller |
| 08:15.45 | Nash|327 | But it's sufficient. |
| 08:16.15 | Nash|327 | And you can't upload more than 15 minutes to YouTube so you won't be dealing with sizes that become a problem. |
| 08:19.56 | Nash|327 | off to play Alien Swarm, bbl |
| 08:22.22 | ReckeD | aight, cheers for the feedback nash, all i can do right now (on this machine) is update the forum post with some additional info. Id like to make a nicer preview video however my priority atm is getting it released, ill see what i can do about the vid after |
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| 08:51.42 | Ka[L]ekin | Is there a method to move an actor smoothly from one point to another? Such as with units. |
| 08:56.59 | ReckeD | use a projectile mover? |
| 08:57.07 | ReckeD | im just guessing, im terribad with actors |
| 08:57.10 | Ka[L]ekin | >_< |
| 08:59.11 | Nash|327 | I love the smell of roasted bugs in the morning. |
| 09:00.29 | ReckeD | is there any way to reference a upgrade abilities upgraded unit cost using triggers? |
| 09:00.49 | ReckeD | ei, want a trigger which increases a variable by the cost of greater spire, once the spire transforms into it |
| 09:10.28 | Nash|327 | probably some data table stuff |
| 09:10.36 | Nash|327 | I never messed with that though. |
| 09:10.44 | Nash|327 | But that's where I would look. |
| 09:16.47 | HeyRevolver | how do I set the message log? |
| 09:19.21 | Nash|327 | EXPLODING HEAD SYNDROME D: |
| 09:20.08 | ReckeD | Any SEA available for play testing? |
| 09:25.58 | Nash|327 | Crikey! |
| 09:27.41 | Nash|327 | ReckeD why is your region KR on forums? |
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| 09:32.50 | Nash|327 | Smelly Finnish people are attacking D: |
| 09:32.58 | Clord | lol |
| 09:33.18 | Clord | who knows even japanese somewhat! |
| 09:33.19 | Clord | XD |
| 09:33.40 | Nash|327 | But not English! :G |
| 09:33.50 | Clord | lol |
| 09:33.59 | Clord | that comment is epic fail |
| 09:34.00 | Clord | ;) |
| 09:34.11 | Nash|327 | Your grammar is fail :/ |
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| 09:34.27 | Clord | lol |
| 09:34.44 | Clord | I answer to your joke with my joke and then you try to deceive me with your answer |
| 09:34.46 | Clord | I see |
| 09:34.49 | Clord | this is becoming messy |
| 09:35.22 | Nash|327 | Go get a mop and bucket? |
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| 09:36.50 | Clord | nah no need of such low tech things |
| 09:37.08 | Nash|327 | ROOMBA! |
| 09:37.19 | Nash|327 | Roomba + kittun |
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| 09:43.05 | harl | wuff wuff |
| 09:43.28 | Nash|327 | meow plzkthx |
| 09:45.14 | Clord | it looks like that infection is spreading |
| 09:46.44 | Arthas- | I know the word Saseko |
| 09:46.45 | Arthas- | :p |
| 09:47.13 | Nash|327 | necessary nick change there :G |
| 09:47.40 | C-H | can i ignore placement on all doodads or do i have to do it for each one i place |
| 09:47.48 | Arthas- | Nash|327 hai! |
| 09:47.57 | Arthas- | Arthas is registered to someone :p |
| 09:48.01 | Arthas- | dont wanna get ghosted |
| 09:48.03 | Nash|327 | Clord, you're going to have to amputate. |
| 09:48.33 | Nash|327 | I'm sorry, but you'll never map again. |
| 09:48.53 | Arthas- | pwnt |
| 09:49.21 | Nash|327 | C-H: There's some button you hold down, I think. |
| 09:49.33 | Nash|327 | Shift or Alt or whatever. |
| 09:50.45 | C-H | ah, thanks |
| 09:51.28 | Arthas- | Keyser Soze! |
| 09:51.45 | Arthas- | actually |
| 09:51.53 | Arthas- | who was asking for tips on themes yesterday? |
| 09:52.08 | Clord | Nash... you are making no sense right now and you know it |
| 09:52.10 | Clord | now stop being bored |
| 09:52.19 | Nash|327 | I can't. |
| 09:52.30 | Arthas- | ah, onetwo |
| 09:52.36 | Nash|327 | I am hung over and suffering from general apathy and headache. |
| 09:54.04 | Clord | lol... reason why I don't drink |
| 09:54.06 | Clord | part of it |
| 09:54.44 | Arthas- | So |
| 09:54.47 | Arthas- | apart from drinking |
| 09:54.50 | Nash|327 | How ascetic of you. |
| 09:54.54 | Arthas- | did ya score? |
| 09:55.03 | Nash|327 | Hmm? |
| 09:55.26 | Clord | now that not make me vegetarian lol... I still eat meat etc... =) |
| 09:55.37 | Nash|327 | MEAT IS MURDER |
| 09:55.52 | Clord | then every animal what eat meat are murderers |
| 09:55.52 | Arthas- | If meat is murderer, Im ready to take a life |
| 09:55.55 | Arthas- | ^^ |
| 09:55.57 | Clord | ;) |
| 09:56.12 | Nash|327 | Animals lack a sense of morality, however. |
| 09:56.40 | Clord | it applies more to dumber animals... but yeah |
| 09:56.49 | Clord | mostly |
| 09:56.51 | Clord | almost all animals |
| 09:57.34 | Clord | also animal kingdom is traumatized during these thousands of years to shit their "whatever" when they see human and run |
| 09:57.35 | Clord | XD |
| 09:58.20 | Nash|327 | I've been drinking three days in a row. |
| 09:58.38 | Arthas- | hehehe |
| 09:58.48 | Nash|327 | Last occasion being a party, which involved larger quantities. |
| 09:58.55 | Arthas- | my room mate is still out :p |
| 09:58.56 | Nash|327 | Now I must suffer the consequences. |
| 09:59.08 | Arthas- | who knows, perhaps he died in his sleep, havent bothered to check yet |
| 09:59.23 | Nash|327 | Eh, you'll know when it starts to smell. |
| 09:59.27 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 09:59.35 | Arthas- | exactly, no need to waste energy on that ^^ |
| 09:59.43 | Arthas- | my nose will figure it iout for me! |
| 10:00.02 | Clord | in case he really is dead? what you will do? XD |
| 10:00.09 | Clord | then they ask questions |
| 10:00.11 | Clord | and you are fucked |
| 10:00.12 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:01.01 | Clord | black humor aside |
| 10:01.04 | Clord | meh |
| 10:01.16 | Arthas- | haha |
| 10:01.22 | Clord | typically some people when they go out... they are drunk in some park and wake up next morning |
| 10:01.24 | Arthas- | im not fucked |
| 10:01.26 | Nash|327 | black humor, Chris Rock? |
| 10:01.26 | Arthas- | im just lazy! |
| 10:01.40 | Arthas- | ya well, he was kinda drunk |
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| 10:02.11 | Clord | black humor can't be really copyrighted easily |
| 10:02.11 | Arthas- | he was pissed about not getting his jacket back from the club, got home dropped lots of food he bought and just fell asleep half on the floor |
| 10:02.24 | Nash|327 | Waking up next morning is normal. |
| 10:02.27 | Clord | even magic the gathering originally tried to copyright word "magic".... ^^ |
| 10:02.29 | Clord | they failed |
| 10:02.36 | Arthas- | I usually wake up really early when that drunk though |
| 10:03.11 | Nash|327 | Because alcohol fucks with your sleeping cycle, when it's metabolized you wake up. |
| 10:03.39 | Nash|327 | Just makes you tired while it's still in your system, but wakes you when it goes away. |
| 10:03.47 | Nash|327 | I only slept 4 hours. |
| 10:04.01 | Arthas- | thats more close to how I sleep when Im drunk |
| 10:04.07 | Clord | it is because.... your body uses tons of resources to deal with that invader stuff |
| 10:04.07 | Arthas- | he's on 10 hours and counting! |
| 10:04.30 | Nash|327 | Still, nice party, was worth it. |
| 10:04.31 | Clord | it does not recgonize it as food or water |
| 10:04.32 | Clord | lol |
| 10:04.39 | Clord | more like threat |
| 10:04.49 | Arthas- | i dont have any money to party :( |
| 10:05.06 | Arthas- | but that is because i waste my money on useful stuff |
| 10:05.07 | Clord | lol... friends asking money to let you in? |
| 10:05.08 | Clord | XD |
| 10:05.12 | Nash|327 | I even managed to convince one person to vote against the right wing. |
| 10:05.20 | Nash|327 | So small victory for me! |
| 10:05.22 | Arthas- | next in sight, printing snes developer manual and buying quickdev16 |
| 10:05.36 | Clord | democracy... it works even without me bothering with it |
| 10:06.10 | Nash|327 | Democracy, too bad there isn't any. |
| 10:06.40 | Clord | hehe.. I like to call it |
| 10:06.41 | Clord | democrazy |
| 10:06.43 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:07.03 | Nash|327 | That's because you can't spell. |
| 10:07.11 | Arthas- | :p |
| 10:07.35 | Clord | so you tell you have lack of imagination? |
| 10:07.36 | Clord | I see :) |
| 10:07.51 | Clord | what I expect from drunkard |
| 10:07.52 | Arthas- | O_o |
| 10:07.53 | Nash|327 | I have plenty. |
| 10:07.54 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:08.14 | Arthas- | Democracy is an illusion |
| 10:08.43 | Clord | actually it is not an illusion... unfortunately |
| 10:09.02 | Clord | it is 200 monkeys voting stuff and most of them are not even attending usually |
| 10:09.21 | Arthas- | Well, I feel like all the parties are moving towards the same here in sweden, with differences in only a few questions |
| 10:09.28 | Arthas- | I dont know how it is in say, UK or US |
| 10:09.35 | Arthas- | But feel free to enlighten me |
| 10:09.47 | Clord | no worries.. I'm from Finland so I have no clue what is going on either there |
| 10:09.50 | Clord | XD |
| 10:09.51 | Arthas- | Although it seems to be the same for all parties when it comes to tracking their citizen on the net |
| 10:10.01 | Arthas- | Oh right, we are planning on invading you soon |
| 10:10.02 | Nash|327 | You don't elect the people with real power, so not democracy. |
| 10:10.13 | Arthas- | thats what you cuntbags get for not learning proper swedish in school! |
| 10:10.35 | Clord | swedish... lol |
| 10:11.02 | Clord | I was too tired already in school to trying learn languages effectively or anything else of that matter |
| 10:11.11 | Nash|327 | Swedish is an obscure language, which is, on the whole, mostly useless. |
| 10:11.15 | Clord | I'm more to... is it "ATK" even in english |
| 10:11.16 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:11.16 | Arthas- | No worries, we can tell. |
| 10:11.28 | Clord | getting 10/10 from computer related stuff |
| 10:11.29 | Clord | lol |
| 10:11.33 | Arthas- | Nash|327 you just cant handle the grammar! |
| 10:11.41 | Nash|327 | I can handle it fine. |
| 10:11.57 | Nash|327 | I am making an objective assessment. |
| 10:12.16 | Clord | most hated language by us finns typically is swedish |
| 10:12.21 | Clord | mostly because recent history |
| 10:12.21 | Arthas- | I know |
| 10:12.27 | Arthas- | That's why we are invading |
| 10:12.33 | Clord | lol |
| 10:12.34 | Bablo | cool |
| 10:12.36 | Arthas- | You need to learn how to respect us |
| 10:12.40 | Arthas- | Oh wait |
| 10:12.47 | Bablo | can't wait for the invasion |
| 10:12.48 | Nash|327 | I'm not invading. |
| 10:12.49 | Arthas- | We are pulling resources from army & defense |
| 10:12.50 | Arthas- | crap |
| 10:12.54 | Bablo | :/ |
| 10:13.00 | Arthas- | oh |
| 10:13.02 | Arthas- | Nash|327 was a swede |
| 10:13.03 | Clord | respect swedish as ass wipers? XD |
| 10:13.03 | Bablo | well we are doing the same thing, so you might have a chance |
| 10:13.05 | Arthas- | :p |
| 10:13.09 | Nash|327 | My papers say I am mentally unfit for military service. |
| 10:13.11 | Arthas- | Thought you were us for some reason |
| 10:13.20 | Arthas- | hmm, Nash|327 how old? |
| 10:13.21 | Nash|327 | So I won't be joining the invasion. |
| 10:13.23 | Nash|327 | 27 |
| 10:13.25 | Arthas- | Ah |
| 10:13.38 | Arthas- | im 24, didnt even have to pull that card to slip out |
| 10:13.45 | Bablo | :P |
| 10:13.53 | Arthas- | They just saw my hands were "torra / frasiga" |
| 10:13.54 | Clord | Nash... lol... I didn't go to army either... normally all "normal" people go to army... they must or they go to jail... but I ddin't need to go to army... they didn't even allow me |
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| 10:13.57 | Clord | nor I did want either |
| 10:14.08 | Arthas- | and I quickly said I had that most of the winter, so they said fu then |
| 10:14.16 | Bablo | army isnt that bad place :P |
| 10:14.21 | Bablo | I had a great year there |
| 10:14.23 | Arthas- | Bablo waste of time! |
| 10:14.30 | Arthas- | I enjoyed playing WC3 instead |
| 10:14.32 | Bablo | no its not :P you get to know people, learn stuff |
| 10:14.40 | Clord | it is because of my nature... if people command me too much around I snap and might shoot my superior |
| 10:14.42 | Clord | literally |
| 10:14.44 | Clord | back then |
| 10:14.45 | Clord | XD |
| 10:14.48 | Nash|327 | I spoke to the psychologist, at which point I was told I could go home. |
| 10:14.52 | Nash|327 | VICTORY |
| 10:14.58 | Arthas- | :D |
| 10:15.07 | Clord | I just can't take such pressure army demands |
| 10:15.11 | Bablo | :P |
| 10:15.19 | Clord | so I would probably snap there anyways |
| 10:15.35 | Clord | yet I like wars... >_> kinda.. virtually |
| 10:15.37 | Nash|327 | I don't take well to people telling me what to do. |
| 10:15.47 | Arthas- | I like wars for real as long as I dont need to be part of it :p |
| 10:15.55 | Nash|327 | And I am ideologically opposed to what the army stands for. |
| 10:15.56 | Arthas- | im talking about major wars though |
| 10:15.57 | Bablo | well I gotta admit I had a little frightment when we went to the shooting course with live ammos for the first time :P |
| 10:16.02 | Arthas- | wars that push technology further |
| 10:16.02 | Bablo | you never know whos gonna snap :P |
| 10:16.06 | Clord | I must say that when there is new war in news.. I get facinated |
| 10:16.11 | Helral|asleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:16.12 | Clord | XD |
| 10:16.16 | Nash|327 | KITTUNS |
| 10:16.23 | Clord | must be all those computer games about war |
| 10:16.27 | Arthas- | internet is a nice example of what has spawned from military research! |
| 10:16.43 | Arthas- | Yeah, you should also watch this movie called WarGames :D |
| 10:16.47 | Arthas- | WarGames 2 sucks though |
| 10:16.47 | Nash|327 | unlike the atomic bomb |
| 10:16.48 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 10:16.58 | Clord | WWII made nuclear power plants quickly possible |
| 10:17.00 | Helral | Arthas-: Tic Tac Toe |
| 10:17.02 | Arthas- | well, that gave us nuclear powerplants to power our computers! |
| 10:17.09 | Clord | it was first really effective way to do electrity |
| 10:17.13 | Nash|327 | Yay, nuclear power! |
| 10:17.14 | Arthas- | Helral, do you want to play a game? |
| 10:17.20 | Arthas- | also |
| 10:17.28 | Arthas- | Nash|327 we need more nuclear power in sweden |
| 10:17.32 | Nash|327 | Let some people in some other country mine the crap. |
| 10:17.34 | Arthas- | or well, south of sweden do! |
| 10:17.41 | Arthas- | mine what? |
| 10:17.44 | Nash|327 | They're just foreigners, who cares if they die? |
| 10:17.50 | Nash|327 | Uranium D_D |
| 10:17.52 | Arthas- | mining uranium aint dangerous |
| 10:17.59 | Clord | hearts of iron series.. conquer the world! |
| 10:18.04 | Arthas- | its the avfall that is :p |
| 10:18.09 | Clord | I tytpicall take russia and conquer finland first |
| 10:18.10 | Clord | lol |
| 10:18.14 | Clord | typically |
| 10:18.24 | Arthas- | russia ftw? |
| 10:18.27 | Nash|327 | Both are, but the waste is another issue, yes. |
| 10:18.32 | Nash|327 | And nobody wants it. |
| 10:18.43 | Arthas- | somewhat true |
| 10:18.53 | Arthas- | some ppl would love to make dirty bombs with it :D |
| 10:19.02 | Helral | taking over the world is easy, just subvert all country leaders, and let them all hand over power to me at the same time XD |
| 10:19.05 | Arthas- | But I love how ppl whined this winter |
| 10:19.11 | Arthas- | when a few reactors where down ^^ |
| 10:19.30 | Arthas- | im unsure on wether or not they were planning to take a few other reactors down again this fall |
| 10:19.39 | Clord | nuclear waste can be putted to space too but there is problem... weight |
| 10:19.42 | Arthas- | luckily it doesnt show that much on my bill |
| 10:19.52 | Arthas- | Clord new plan |
| 10:19.55 | Arthas- | dump it all in finland |
| 10:20.06 | Arthas- | Since swedes in here are a majority, you are screwed |
| 10:20.17 | Nash|327 | Dump it in Chernobyl. |
| 10:20.26 | Nash|327 | Not like it'll get much worse... |
| 10:20.29 | Arthas- | :p |
| 10:20.31 | Clord | they plan to put that stuff to moon or something too |
| 10:20.31 | Clord | lol |
| 10:20.44 | Clord | nice storage space |
| 10:21.23 | Clord | world rely to russia keep that chernobyl under control |
| 10:21.24 | Clord | lol |
| 10:21.33 | Nash|327 | Need more sustainable alternatives. |
| 10:21.47 | Arthas- | well, the swedish method seems promising |
| 10:22.03 | Arthas- | more promising then what one has seen so far |
| 10:22.05 | Nash|327 | And just generally less energy consumption, could start by shutting all the fucking ad signs off. |
| 10:22.09 | Arthas- | thats why we need a new war though |
| 10:22.20 | Arthas- | then perhaps they will manage to get working fusion! |
| 10:23.22 | Nash|327 | Free gyms with exercise bikes with dynamos. |
| 10:23.31 | Arthas- | hahaha |
| 10:23.51 | Arthas- | i like it |
| 10:25.05 | Arthas- | http://vk.se/Article.jsp?article=376226 |
| 10:25.07 | Arthas- | derp derp |
| 10:25.08 | Nash|327 | turn fat asses into usable electricity |
| 10:25.13 | Arthas- | worthless ppl |
| 10:25.47 | Arthas- | just keep an eye on the god damn thing |
| 10:26.03 | Arthas- | I have yet to start a fire and my BBQ is on the balcony :\ |
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| 10:26.32 | thenk | how do you adjust the experience your hero gets from killing a unit? |
| 10:26.33 | Nash|327 | Think the problem is throwing it in the trash without properly extinguishing. |
| 10:26.40 | Arthas- | in this case yes |
| 10:26.49 | Nash|327 | A unit, or all units? |
| 10:27.00 | Arthas- | leaving it in open space for the night would do the trick |
| 10:27.25 | thenk | a particular unit. |
| 10:27.27 | Arthas- | but then, ppl in this town seems to be experts at leaving engångsgrillar inside the house after use, in the trash rooms. they are also good at doing torrkokningar! |
| 10:27.36 | Nash|327 | kill experience |
| 10:27.47 | Nash|327 | you have to edit the killed unit itself |
| 10:28.00 | thenk | ah yep |
| 10:28.11 | thenk | who has lots of cool custom models to use for unit waves? |
| 10:28.46 | Arthas- | btw, anyone know a good site for printing a book? |
| 10:28.56 | Arthas- | we are talking send PDF, get a printed book back for decent fee |
| 10:29.11 | Arthas- | they should ignore wether or not its your book or somebody elses book |
| 10:30.38 | Nash|327 | YARR |
| 10:30.58 | Nash|327 | I only know of self-publishing. |
| 10:31.05 | Nash|327 | Which does not apply. |
| 10:31.29 | C-H | uhh... buy a printer? |
| 10:31.37 | Arthas- | i found lulu.com but they dont seem to be into printing copyrighted stuff |
| 10:32.19 | Arthas- | c-h, I want it it with paperback |
| 10:33.37 | Nash|327 | I don't think anyone is into printing copyrighted stuff... |
| 10:33.59 | Arthas- | pussies |
| 10:34.01 | Arthas- | :( |
| 10:34.04 | C-H | i've made a book cover before in a design class |
| 10:34.25 | Arthas- | so if I buy a pdf I dont have the right to have a copy printed in paper when I already own the content? =O |
| 10:35.45 | Nash|327 | The wonderful world of copyright. |
| 10:35.55 | Arthas- | and its not getting any better :p |
| 10:36.53 | Nash|327 | Well, pirates will always find a way. |
| 10:37.13 | Arthas- | indeed |
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| 10:37.52 | Nash|327 | unless they plan to monitor everything and ban encryption, not much they can do |
| 10:38.06 | Arthas- | id like to see sweden try to ban encryption though |
| 10:38.11 | Arthas- | I mean, bring it on |
| 10:38.43 | Arthas- | regarding monitor everything, they already do? |
| 10:38.56 | tigerija_ | hey, can armor icon be removed somehow ? |
| 10:39.19 | Nash|327 | It's not doable, as there's too much financial interest behind encryption. |
| 10:39.37 | Nash|327 | Corporations need it, thus it will not be banned. |
| 10:40.06 | Arthas- | doesnt mean they cant ban it for a normal citizen :p |
| 10:40.58 | Nash|327 | It's kind of all or nothing. |
| 10:41.01 | Arthas- | Nash|327 http://techdirt.com/articles/20091128/1803197100.shtml |
| 10:41.11 | Arthas- | thar ya go, a nice example of what hte uk is turning into :p |
| 10:41.48 | Arthas- | theres more to find on that matter if you search around ^^ |
| 10:42.42 | Arthas- | "Two people have been successfully prosecuted for refusing to provide authorities with their encryption keys, resulting in landmark convictions that may have carried jail sentences of up to five years" - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/11/ripa_iii_figures/ |
| 10:42.44 | Arthas- | herpa derpa! |
| 10:42.51 | Arthas- | jag <3 europa |
| 10:42.52 | Nash|327 | That's encryption of physical media, though. |
| 10:42.57 | Arthas- | indeed |
| 10:43.02 | Arthas- | which I utilize alot |
| 10:43.08 | Nash|327 | Internet traffic is another matter. |
| 10:43.18 | Arthas- | oh yeah |
| 10:43.35 | Arthas- | i just didnt make the connection to encrypted traffic til now |
| 10:43.51 | Arthas- | and indeed, that might be harder to prevent since we use it in our everyday life |
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| 10:44.22 | Arthas- | wb vjeux |
| 10:44.29 | vjeux | hey |
| 10:44.38 | vjeux | do you know if the tournament yesterday went well? |
| 10:44.43 | Arthas- | no idea |
| 10:44.48 | Nash|327 | And an IP based system to check if encryption is allowed can be circumvented. |
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| 10:46.51 | Nash|327 | Spoof an IP, send the real sender IP inside the encrypted packet. |
| 10:47.35 | Helral | vjeux: broadcastinfiled the mapidn't co-operate. |
| 10:47.51 | Helral | vjeux: broadcasting failed* |
| 10:47.51 | vjeux | yeah just read that :x |
| 10:47.56 | vjeux | that sucks |
| 10:47.56 | Arthas- | uhm, spoof which ip? |
| 10:48.08 | Helral | vjeux: yup |
| 10:48.36 | Nash|327 | You set the sender IP to an IP of a site allowed to use encryption. |
| 10:48.59 | Arthas- | ah |
| 10:49.11 | Arthas- | yeah, that could work |
| 10:49.11 | Nash|327 | Then at the application level, the recipient decrypts the payload and gets the real sender IP and replies to that, claming to be another site that's allowed to use encryption. |
| 10:49.37 | Arthas- | unless they blcok stuff at first node |
| 10:50.52 | Nash|327 | Well if they monitor every part of the network instead of just core routers. |
| 10:51.11 | Arthas- | ya, IF they do |
| 10:51.20 | Arthas- | I dont thinnk they would since they prolly want to do as little work as possible :p |
| 10:51.33 | Arthas- | or rather, spend as little resources as possible |
| 10:52.01 | thenk | is it possible to do shared experience between team heros? |
| 10:52.07 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 10:53.01 | Nash|327 | Well, I read somewhere that enemies also get experience if you use sharing. |
| 10:53.33 | Nash|327 | My map only has heroes on one team so it's a non-issue for me. |
| 10:53.39 | Helral | thenk: there are several ways to achieve the xp sharing. |
| 10:53.44 | Arthas- | do we have a terrainer in the house? |
| 10:53.49 | Nash|327 | And nothing I've experienced personally. |
| 10:55.36 | thenk | hmm.. k |
| 10:55.40 | thenk | i'll look it up on googlez |
| 10:55.52 | thenk | what about splash damage, is that easy to implement? |
| 10:57.03 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 10:57.21 | thenk | add a search area to a damage effect? |
| 10:57.41 | Nash|327 | something like that |
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| 10:57.49 | Nash|327 | you can look at seeker missile damage effect |
| 10:58.20 | Nash|327 | some area effect use a Search Area with apply a Damage effect |
| 10:58.35 | Nash|327 | but you can also just set a radius on the Damage effect |
| 10:58.42 | Nash|327 | as with Seeker Missile |
| 10:59.00 | Nash|327 | or several radii with different damage percentages |
| 10:59.02 | Helral | thenk: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/?scope=tree&search=xp+share |
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| 11:04.18 | Mattavich | just had 3-4 hours powernap |
| 11:04.44 | Nash|327 | that's not a powernap |
| 11:05.17 | Mattavich | i did an all nighter |
| 11:05.23 | Mattavich | and then nearly died at 8:17am |
| 11:05.30 | ReckeD | Okay, maps public, listed on page 3, wish me luck guys, *play music "im willing to sleep my way to the top, i just wanna be popular!"* |
| 11:05.31 | Mattavich | so powernapped |
| 11:05.44 | Mattavich | rocked you on EU? |
| 11:05.48 | ReckeD | SEA |
| 11:05.48 | Mattavich | recked |
| 11:05.50 | ReckeD | =( |
| 11:05.51 | Mattavich | a ok |
| 11:05.58 | ReckeD | bbl din din |
| 11:06.00 | thenk | cool eh |
| 11:06.18 | Nash|327 | powernap only covers first two sleep stages |
| 11:07.08 | Mattavich | but i feel the power of 4 hours |
| 11:07.11 | Mattavich | im ready for war again |
| 11:07.41 | Nash|327 | Still not a powernap D: |
| 11:08.35 | Mattavich | awww |
| 11:08.40 | Mattavich | why do you have to ruin everything |
| 11:09.08 | Nash|327 | because I'm the reason we can't have nice things |
| 11:09.20 | Mattavich | i cant find where it says the next cusotm liv eis.... |
| 11:09.40 | Nash|327 | try searching for "custom live" instead |
| 11:10.35 | Otixa | Mattavich, every fecking friday ¬_¬ |
| 11:10.54 | Mattavich | it aint showing a sticky thread or anything i search for that |
| 11:10.57 | Nash|327 | The next one is every friday? :o |
| 11:11.09 | Otixa | The * one is every friday |
| 11:11.21 | Otixa | It's been that way for like a month now |
| 11:11.33 | Mattavich | where is the official custom live thread? =/ |
| 11:11.40 | Nash|327 | Friday is a bad day. |
| 11:11.42 | Otixa | Somewhere in map review |
| 11:11.49 | Nash|327 | It's FRIDAY! |
| 11:12.02 | Nash|327 | Not really a gaming day. |
| 11:12.12 | Mattavich | this one? |
| 11:12.13 | Mattavich | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/player-zone/map-review/8885-custom-live/#posts |
| 11:12.23 | Mattavich | it doesnt say when the next one is or what's coming up or nowt! |
| 11:12.40 | Nash|327 | :/ |
| 11:12.47 | Mattavich | ragequitting |
| 11:12.49 | Mattavich | :( |
| 11:12.53 | Nash|327 | Yes. |
| 11:13.23 | Otixa | Pizza arrived :D |
| 11:13.30 | Mattavich | i hate you :d |
| 11:13.36 | Mattavich | I need a cup of tetley tea |
| 11:13.44 | Nash|327 | Pizza D: |
| 11:13.50 | Mattavich | nash |
| 11:13.56 | Otixa | Mattavich, every friday at 18 GMT+1 |
| 11:14.01 | Mattavich | have you looked at obelisk hellfire yet? |
| 11:14.08 | Mattavich | Thanks otixa i will remember that |
| 11:14.14 | Mattavich | You shuld make a banne ron the site |
| 11:14.19 | Nash|327 | Nope. I haven't really done much of anything today. |
| 11:14.23 | Mattavich | so everyone understands and generate more viewers |
| 11:14.29 | Otixa | CustomLive isn't my show. I just co-host :P |
| 11:14.32 | Otixa | Tell Tinman |
| 11:14.32 | Nash|327 | I'm still hung over. |
| 11:14.36 | Mattavich | well i think it's got a foothold in the maplist now |
| 11:14.40 | Nash|327 | And also tired. |
| 11:14.50 | Mattavich | I've played your maps! |
| 11:14.54 | Mattavich | did you do golems? |
| 11:15.24 | Nash|327 | Who are you talking to? |
| 11:15.56 | Mattavich | you |
| 11:16.04 | Mattavich | did you create the golems remake on here? |
| 11:16.08 | Mattavich | im sure it was you |
| 11:16.09 | Nash|327 | No. |
| 11:16.15 | Otixa | Nash is an amerifaggot |
| 11:16.16 | Mattavich | nevermind |
| 11:16.16 | Otixa | ;p |
| 11:16.22 | Nash|327 | I am not. |
| 11:16.30 | Nash|327 | I am Swedish. |
| 11:16.31 | Mattavich | ohhhh, weird i could ahve sworn it had nash as creator |
| 11:16.33 | Otixa | Fine, you're just a plane faggot |
| 11:16.38 | Mattavich | lol |
| 11:16.38 | Otixa | plain* |
| 11:16.39 | Otixa | ;p |
| 11:16.40 | Mattavich | a plane faggot haha |
| 11:16.42 | Otixa | Anyway |
| 11:16.45 | Otixa | TV time now |
| 11:16.49 | Mattavich | gl hf |
| 11:16.50 | Nash|327 | I am three-dimensional. |
| 11:17.17 | Mattavich | You get very gay on planes |
| 11:17.35 | Helral | poor you Nash, only being 3d.... I'm 4d ;p |
| 11:19.21 | Helral | well I'm at least 4d ;p depending on how many dimensionals get added it might increase :P |
| 11:19.29 | Nash|327 | People cannot perceive 4 dimensions so it's rather moot. |
| 11:19.47 | Helral | People are percieving 4 dimensions all the time. |
| 11:19.53 | Nash|327 | NEGATIVE |
| 11:20.08 | Helral | movement of leaves = 4d perception. |
| 11:20.26 | Helral | x,y,z,time = 4 dimensions. ;p |
| 11:20.37 | Nash|327 | Time is not a dimension. |
| 11:20.47 | Helral | ow but it is. |
| 11:20.51 | Otixa | Time is only half a dimension |
| 11:20.55 | Nash|327 | lrn2physics |
| 11:21.00 | Otixa | Because we only percieve it as moving forward |
| 11:21.22 | Helral | true Otixa, we can only perceive half of the 4th dimension. |
| 11:21.36 | Otixa | So you are 3.5D :P |
| 11:22.05 | Helral | I'm 4D cause someone who can travel time in reverse can see myself reverting, instead of progressing. |
| 11:22.21 | Otixa | Pime taradox? |
| 11:22.54 | Nash|327 | 4D would be a tesseract and the like. |
| 11:23.16 | Nash|327 | Time is a measure of change in space. |
| 11:23.19 | Helral | Otixa: hmmmm depends. It could be that because that person is travelling time in the other direction I cannot notice him cause our dimensinos do not entirely overlap. he might even need to use a device to see into out time dimension. |
| 11:23.38 | Helral | into our* |
| 11:23.49 | Otixa | No theoretical physics now >:| |
| 11:23.55 | Otixa | TV + pizza time |
| 11:24.04 | Helral | I'm very theoretical about dimensions. :P |
| 11:24.50 | Helral | 4 dimensions have been proven to exist: X, Y, Z and Time (since a point defined by X Y Z changes with time). |
| 11:25.01 | Nash|327 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_dimension |
| 11:25.07 | Nash|327 | nubbers |
| 11:27.08 | Helral | "According to certain Euclidean space perceptions, the universe has three dimensions of space and one dimension of time. " |
| 11:27.16 | Helral | 4 dimensions in total. |
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| 11:28.58 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 11:28.59 | Nash|327 | but 4D refers to 4 spatial dimensions |
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| 11:29.37 | thenk | what is the fourth spatial dimension? |
| 11:29.57 | Nash|327 | a hypothetical one |
| 11:30.04 | Nash|327 | hypercubes, etc |
| 11:30.08 | thenk | length width depth and hypothetical? |
| 11:30.14 | thenk | that doesn't make sense |
| 11:30.32 | thenk | ;) |
| 11:30.50 | Nash|327 | I don't think it has a proper name, it's called W though |
| 11:31.12 | Helral | Nash|327: who said that the D in 3D stands for Spatial Dimensions, I never did though. Never knew it referenced to spatial, just generic Dimensions. |
| 11:32.45 | Nash|327 | because when something is referred to as 3D or three-dimensional, it does not mean it is outside of time |
| 11:34.15 | Helral | hmmm 4D: "In mathematics, the fourth dimension, or a four-dimensional ("4D") space, is an abstract concept derived by generalizing the rules of three-dimensional space." , "The fourth dimension in this space was sometimes interpreted as time" |
| 11:34.15 | Nash|327 | The temporal dimension is inferred, it doesn't need to be mentioned. |
| 11:34.58 | Nash|327 | In Physics, time is no longer considered the 4th dimension. |
| 11:35.06 | Clord | yeah and when I told about that in school... teacher thought I made thing up.. there is no such thing as 4th dimension |
| 11:35.07 | Clord | >_> |
| 11:35.24 | Helral | true, in modern ones but hey I don't care about modern physics. |
| 11:36.18 | Nash|327 | Furthermore, in everyday speech, 3D does not for example refer to a plane subject to time. |
| 11:36.20 | Helral | basicly what they do in modern physics is split up 4D into 3D (spatial) and 1D(Time) |
| 11:36.32 | Nash|327 | It refers to 3 spatial dimensions. |
| 11:36.53 | Clord | lol I don't really have much deep knowledge of matter anyways... =) |
| 11:37.02 | Nash|327 | A 3D movie is very much subject to time. |
| 11:37.27 | Nash|327 | It's called 3D because it gives the illusion of three spatial dimensions. |
| 11:37.39 | Nash|327 | It is not called 4D. |
| 11:37.48 | Helral | Nash|327: aha there you go wrong. |
| 11:38.01 | Clord | what reminds me.. in finnish TV there is program called 4D |
| 11:38.03 | Clord | lol |
| 11:39.12 | Helral | Nash|327: 3D in movies is correct. since the term movie implies: lots of images displayed after eachother at which you do not notice that the images are swapped out. |
| 11:39.20 | Clord | btw these stress test programs to test if hardware is well is lol..... if it fails it is either a) program breaks it or b) it was already broken |
| 11:39.45 | Helral | so basicly it acts if you see something that is happening as the result of time, but it's just a trick of images. |
| 11:40.08 | Helral | with this concept it is correct to use the term 3d. |
| 11:40.29 | Nash|327 | That is any movie, not 3D movies. |
| 11:40.44 | Helral | Nash|327: you miss the point I see. |
| 11:40.51 | Nash|327 | Is there one? |
| 11:41.21 | Helral | 3D movies refere to movies which are shown as if 3Dimensional. the term 3D movie implies then a lot of 3Dimensional Pictures following eachother up. |
| 11:41.21 | Clord | actually... in screen everything is 1d.. giving illusion of 3d ^^ but whatever....... some want achieve true 3d with holograms... |
| 11:41.44 | Helral | even though 3D pictures are just optical illusions. |
| 11:41.49 | Clord | hologram monitors are not something we buy in next 20 years maybe but still |
| 11:41.52 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:44.46 | Otixa | Surprise surprise |
| 11:44.51 | Otixa | It's raining in England |
| 11:44.52 | Otixa | :P |
| 11:44.56 | Clord | lol |
| 11:45.00 | Clord | yeah |
| 11:45.05 | Clord | as I have heard over and over |
| 11:45.11 | Clord | it is pretty standard weather there |
| 11:45.13 | Clord | unlike most countries |
| 11:45.22 | Otixa | indeed |
| 11:45.23 | Nash|327 | it rains TEA |
| 11:45.38 | Helral | our standard weather where I live, is that it always changes :P |
| 11:47.18 | Clord | TEA... SEA lol |
| 11:47.22 | Clord | these terms are bit funyn sometimes |
| 11:47.28 | Clord | funny.... |
| 11:49.13 | Clord | fishing from the SEA and drinking the TEA |
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| 11:52.24 | Clord | zombie came |
| 11:52.30 | SweetZombieJesus | oO |
| 11:52.41 | Clord | trying to revive this dead chat |
| 11:52.52 | Nash|327 | ZOMBIE CHAT |
| 11:53.00 | Otixa | Zombie came buckets? :c |
| 11:53.00 | SweetZombieJesus | looks very dead yes |
| 11:55.13 | Nash|327 | It's not dead, it's only resting! |
| 11:55.49 | Clord | poke it with stick |
| 11:56.35 | Nash|327 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218 |
| 11:59.53 | Hati | you tube lags since 2 days for me like hell <.< |
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| 12:03.28 | Helral | vjeux likes kicking himself? XD |
| 12:03.35 | vjeux | yeah |
| 12:03.48 | Helral | hehehe did it hurt? :P |
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| 12:06.21 | Nash|327 | auto-erotic masochism |
| 12:06.59 | Helral | Think I'll go work on my next Easy Catalog Library |
| 12:08.13 | Otixa | burps |
| 12:08.22 | Otixa | Must... clean... house... |
| 12:08.23 | soulcarver | anybody here familiar with missile movers could i get some private help? |
| 12:08.39 | Helral | guess I'll be working on the Easy Catalog Abilities Library. |
| 12:09.07 | ReckeD | with popularity, does a map played trigger when a map is started or when it ends? |
| 12:09.20 | Otixa | imma do a system restore |
| 12:09.21 | ReckeD | and can you just host and quit your game repeatedly to boost pop |
| 12:09.49 | Nash|327 | LAME MAP BOOSTING |
| 12:12.10 | ReckeD | hey someones gotta do it nash, maps not gonna boost itself =P |
| 12:14.52 | Otixa | bbl |
| 12:18.49 | Helral | bleh this will be tiresome, so many different ability types :P |
| 12:23.04 | SweetZombieJesus | i need more addictive yet simple minigame ideas |
| 12:24.46 | mike9055 | anyone play HON |
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| 12:48.29 | DiNo29 | HoN, yeah |
| 12:52.54 | Hati | have it installed |
| 12:53.52 | ReckeD | did during beta |
| 12:54.01 | ReckeD | then they were all like "gimme 30 bucks" |
| 12:54.15 | ReckeD | and i was like "gimme an uninstaller!" |
| 12:56.00 | SweetZombieJesus | those bastards |
| 12:56.04 | SweetZombieJesus | asking money for a quality game |
| 12:59.54 | Xackery | I wouldn't call it quality.. |
| 13:00.19 | ReckeD | quality ripoff == |
| 13:00.24 | Xackery | ^ |
| 13:00.27 | ReckeD | you dont see me trying to charge people for thrones do you =P |
| 13:01.02 | Xackery | I can't see why anyone would pay for.. well, DoTA. In any form. XD |
| 13:01.24 | vjeux | news UP |
| 13:01.48 | vjeux | Waldo, WTE #5, Dungeon Keeper, Tower Offense |
| 13:01.49 | Xackery | it's a mini game. It's like, paying money for 1 mini game in Mario Party. It may be a good mini game, but it's still a mini game. :/ |
| 13:02.16 | SweetZombieJesus | hon is a minigame? |
| 13:02.38 | Xackery | DoTA/HoN/LoL/etc = 30 minutes to play all the content. Just swap up heroes. :P |
| 13:02.54 | Xackery | maybe 60 if the enemy gives you trouble. |
| 13:03.18 | SweetZombieJesus | riiight |
| 13:03.26 | Xackery | I mean, it's not rocket science. |
| 13:03.35 | SweetZombieJesus | clearly you are somewhat clueless about dota/hon ;) |
| 13:03.41 | SweetZombieJesus | LoL is just bad though |
| 13:05.24 | Xackery | I wouldn't say clueless, but instead, it doesn't appeal to my tastes to the level I'd say it's worth money. :P |
| 13:05.40 | SweetZombieJesus | then dont say youve seen all the content in 30 mins |
| 13:06.11 | Xackery | Oh, that part. |
| 13:06.22 | SweetZombieJesus | the content is gameplay |
| 13:06.24 | Xackery | I'm talking about the game concept, mainly |
| 13:06.26 | Xackery | you know |
| 13:06.27 | Xackery | two bases |
| 13:06.31 | Xackery | mobs coming from both sides |
| 13:06.40 | SweetZombieJesus | thats not the concept alone |
| 13:07.11 | SweetZombieJesus | wth is wrong with youtube |
| 13:07.13 | Xackery | after 30 minutes, you get the jist of that at least. It doesn't really "change" much from that formula. XD |
| 13:07.24 | SweetZombieJesus | then you dont know hon ... |
| 13:07.42 | SweetZombieJesus | if all you look at is that, then you are doing it wrong |
| 13:07.57 | SweetZombieJesus | the game is about gameplay and has thousands of hours in it |
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| 13:08.36 | Xackery | don't worry. If you think HoN is worth buying, go for it. I just don't think it is. Two opinions, the cluenessness is just matter of opinion. Don't get your panties in a wad about me not liking your game. :P |
| 13:08.57 | SweetZombieJesus | i dont care if you like it |
| 13:09.08 | SweetZombieJesus | just dont base your opinion on irrelevant stuff |
| 13:10.09 | Xackery | It's relevant to me. |
| 13:10.15 | Xackery | Or I wouldn't bother saying it |
| 13:10.26 | Xackery | But i'll shut up now, since nobody seems to care either way. |
| 13:10.48 | Clord | hmmm actually |
| 13:10.51 | Clord | I prefer LoL... |
| 13:11.08 | Clord | jumping avatars made me weird me out etc |
| 13:11.26 | Xackery | I liked DoTA when it came out. Long time ago. |
| 13:11.31 | Xackery | LoL was fun for a while. :) |
| 13:11.47 | Xackery | But not worth 30 bucks. |
| 13:12.50 | Xackery | now starcraft 2.. is a lot of fun. Great campaign, great online pvp, great custom modding. |
| 13:12.54 | Xackery | This game is awesome. :) |
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| 13:14.52 | pinzu | need some help, |
| 13:15.02 | pinzu | I have a array[1-100] |
| 13:15.19 | pinzu | and I want 10 of those at random to be = -1 |
| 13:15.35 | pinzu | however, the random number must not pick a already selected value |
| 13:15.38 | pinzu | that is = -1 |
| 13:15.41 | Nash|327 | I soloed on my map, wasn't easy D: |
| 13:16.18 | pinzu | any suggestions? |
| 13:16.36 | Hati | do 10 randoms - check value of array |
| 13:16.39 | Hati | if value == -1 |
| 13:16.45 | Hati | do anothe random until it is not -1 |
| 13:17.07 | pinzu | would that be like a while in a while loop? |
| 13:17.18 | Helral | yup |
| 13:18.12 | Helral | while i<10{ j=random, while arr[j]==-1{ j=random} set arr[j] = -1} |
| 13:18.19 | Helral | something like that in short notation. |
| 13:18.27 | Helral | ow forgot the i++ |
| 13:18.29 | Helral | XD |
| 13:18.38 | pinzu | yea, lets see |
| 13:20.37 | Xackery | Dungeon Keeper map is fun :) |
| 13:21.17 | Nash|327 | you don't need 2 while loops :G |
| 13:21.39 | Helral | Nash|327: why not? |
| 13:21.51 | Nash|327 | you can do it with 1 |
| 13:22.30 | Helral | hmmm how then, I'm curious with what you came up with. |
| 13:22.53 | Helral | I think I know what you came up with. ;p |
| 13:23.17 | pinzu | okey it works with 2 while loops |
| 13:23.30 | pinzu | but you have any other suggestions i am still listenting ;o |
| 13:23.39 | Helral | although 2 while loops work just as fast as what you thought off with 1 while loop. |
| 13:24.07 | Nash|327 | while count<10 {index = random if (array[index] != -1) {array[index]=-1, count++}} |
| 13:24.59 | Nash|327 | nested loops should be avoided, if nothing else then for clean code |
| 13:25.29 | Helral | Nash|327: lol. |
| 13:27.06 | SweetZombieJesus | nested loops are fun |
| 13:27.11 | SweetZombieJesus | i try to put in as many in my code as i can |
| 13:27.21 | SweetZombieJesus | because i can! |
| 13:28.04 | Nash|327 | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 13:28.31 | Helral | Nash|327: how many lines should a trigger have max? |
| 13:28.37 | Helral | according to you :P |
| 13:28.39 | pinzu | oh damn, I should have used 2D arrays.. |
| 13:28.59 | pinzu | *starts all over* |
| 13:28.59 | Nash|327 | there's a hard limit on it |
| 13:29.29 | Helral | ow is there? |
| 13:29.32 | Nash|327 | indeed |
| 13:29.45 | Nash|327 | your code will not compile if your trigger is too long |
| 13:29.57 | Helral | guess my triggers aren't too long then. |
| 13:30.08 | Nash|327 | mine are |
| 13:30.32 | Helral | http://pastebin.com/kwDkQ9Zz <-- one of my triggers. :P |
| 13:30.38 | Nash|327 | when you have about 200 loops creating units D_D |
| 13:31.04 | Helral | why would you need 200 loops? |
| 13:31.15 | Nash|327 | because I have 200 points |
| 13:31.23 | Clord | Xackery... your logic what LoL is worth works fine until you realize game is free to play... it was only collector's edition for release what came with extras what costed |
| 13:31.26 | Clord | :) |
| 13:31.43 | Xackery | hm? |
| 13:31.56 | Helral | I got 256^2 points... |
| 13:32.04 | Helral | well less now i think about it |
| 13:32.05 | Xackery | oh |
| 13:32.06 | Helral | 225^2 |
| 13:32.18 | Clord | still free to play is huge excuse for cas cow |
| 13:32.23 | Xackery | I like LoL. no issues at all with that. My arguments in that whole section was in regards to HoN costing 30 bucks. |
| 13:32.33 | Arthas- | "EXTBG mode isoriginally provided as a function for the purpose of the LSI BG expand. For the Super NES, this function is used for rotation, enlargement and reduction in 128 colors with priority order.."" |
| 13:32.35 | Arthas- | O RLY |
| 13:33.03 | Xackery | And hypoethically noted that IF LoL costed money, I wouldn't play it, more or less. XD But since it doesn't, more power to it. lol. |
| 13:33.26 | SweetZombieJesus | cept that it is item shop |
| 13:33.29 | Xackery | though I think it has a shop system.. for unlocking stuff. Don't think anything is required |
| 13:33.48 | Clord | yeah... they rotate heroes weekly |
| 13:33.50 | Nash|327 | ah, money-based advantages |
| 13:33.51 | Clord | what are free to play |
| 13:33.52 | Clord | ^^ |
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| 13:33.56 | SweetZombieJesus | so youll get your ass handed to you by people who pay for it |
| 13:34.00 | Nash|327 | suckage |
| 13:34.02 | Xackery | You can unlock all heroes without paying a dime right? |
| 13:34.09 | SweetZombieJesus | who in turn end up spending far more than $30 |
| 13:34.21 | SweetZombieJesus | yea if you play literally thousands of hours |
| 13:34.21 | Clord | yes... there is alternative points what can be used to perma unlock even heroes |
| 13:34.24 | Clord | but it needs more work |
| 13:34.27 | Clord | than using credit card |
| 13:34.28 | Clord | XD |
| 13:34.47 | Clord | or debit card in certain countries ^^ |
| 13:35.03 | Xackery | Yeah, which means.. LoL = free, with optional payment |
| 13:35.09 | SweetZombieJesus | 'free' |
| 13:35.15 | Clord | like here finland.. visa electron can be used like visa when it comes purcharing world wide etc... awesome place :) |
| 13:35.21 | Clord | can even pay via visa option in sites |
| 13:35.27 | Helral | Nash: even with 228^2 I use only 4 loops for unit generation.... |
| 13:35.44 | Xackery | but things like draft mode.. I doubt work very well in LoL.... |
| 13:35.50 | Xackery | where in HON it works great |
| 13:36.10 | Clord | one of LoL things was or still is that..... they don't sell gameplay advantages what you can't get via just grnding with playing gaem |
| 13:36.11 | SweetZombieJesus | they are still different games |
| 13:36.13 | Clord | game... |
| 13:36.15 | SweetZombieJesus | its not both dota |
| 13:36.20 | SweetZombieJesus | lol is more casual |
| 13:36.25 | Clord | another awesome thing of LoL is that you are not stuck in one map design |
| 13:36.27 | Clord | :) |
| 13:36.38 | Clord | have not played game long time however |
| 13:36.40 | Clord | >_> |
| 13:36.41 | SweetZombieJesus | hon is harder but way more rewarding and better suited for tournaments |
| 13:36.50 | Helral | Nash|327: well the last 2 loops are for spawning the exit actually. so I use only 2 loops to spawn most of my stuff. at my 50625 points. |
| 13:36.53 | Xackery | does HoN have replay? |
| 13:37.01 | SweetZombieJesus | only the best |
| 13:37.07 | Xackery | cool |
| 13:37.09 | SweetZombieJesus | you can download any replay of any game from the database |
| 13:37.13 | Xackery | I wonder if LoL has that yet, it pissed me off |
| 13:37.16 | Xackery | it didn't |
| 13:37.35 | Xackery | but still. I wouldn't pay. XD |
| 13:37.42 | Clord | LoL was pushed out of door unfinished aka not all maps was even in what you are able to select from view |
| 13:37.43 | Clord | lol |
| 13:38.24 | Clord | also european community began to majorly use US client |
| 13:38.31 | Clord | making EU side bit barren |
| 13:38.47 | SweetZombieJesus | only downside of hon is the horrible community |
| 13:38.53 | SweetZombieJesus | only jerks there |
| 13:39.00 | SweetZombieJesus | even if they arent jerks |
| 13:39.13 | SweetZombieJesus | if you make any mistake, even the nicest people will give you a shitstorm |
| 13:39.15 | Xackery | I think DoTA-like games... kind of breed that type of personality SZJ, kind of nature of game XD |
| 13:39.28 | SweetZombieJesus | its that you have to rely on others to win |
| 13:39.33 | SweetZombieJesus | which can be... frustrating :P |
| 13:39.41 | Xackery | yeah, and feeding can really fuck your chances |
| 13:39.56 | Clord | LoL is same but community is not that bad... it is probably bcause HoN caters those who play game 13 hours a day |
| 13:40.11 | Xackery | HoN catered more hardcore, agreed |
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| 13:40.51 | Clord | still there can be few gems.. persons who just because they are skilled not become too nosey |
| 13:40.55 | Clord | lack of better term |
| 13:40.56 | Clord | ^^ |
| 13:41.06 | Nash|327 | Helral you set up an array of Points? |
| 13:41.19 | pinzu | hehe, I have a new dilema |
| 13:41.27 | Xackery | maybe arrogant instead of nosey, clord? if I understand you right XD |
| 13:41.34 | pinzu | now the the array range is [1-10][1-10] |
| 13:41.47 | pinzu | and i want a random number in that gric |
| 13:41.50 | pinzu | grid* |
| 13:41.51 | Helral | Nash|327: http://pastebin.com/XVzdwYkh |
| 13:41.58 | Xackery | who is your favorite champion, Clord? |
| 13:42.00 | Clord | arrogant fits as well ;) |
| 13:42.05 | Clord | but I like rarer terms too lol |
| 13:42.06 | Clord | XD |
| 13:42.10 | Helral | pinzu: just do 2 randoms, 1-10. instead of 1 random 1-100 |
| 13:42.35 | Clord | nosey... arrogance... those both are good sources of asshole gamer... seriously |
| 13:42.50 | Helral | Nash|327: ofcourse I have setup a grid of points. :P grid[227][227] I think it is sized :P |
| 13:43.20 | Clord | hehe.... my card game randoms 1-100.... if card should be rare.. then random rare if that is case |
| 13:43.21 | Clord | XD |
| 13:43.31 | Clord | way to optimize |
| 13:43.32 | Clord | =) |
| 13:48.53 | SweetZombieJesus | ok so i cant select this unit |
| 13:49.00 | SweetZombieJesus | when i click him, it wont select him |
| 13:49.05 | SweetZombieJesus | but unit flags are correct |
| 13:49.07 | SweetZombieJesus | what can be the problem? |
| 13:49.18 | Helral | the unit radius? |
| 13:49.35 | SweetZombieJesus | i can mouseover him and see his radius |
| 13:49.36 | SweetZombieJesus | and its normal |
| 13:50.07 | Helral | I'd say: unselectable is flagged. |
| 13:50.16 | SweetZombieJesus | me too but it's not :S |
| 13:50.19 | Xackery | yeah, make sure he doesn't have a behavior |
| 13:50.24 | Xackery | that's making him unselectable, too |
| 13:50.37 | Helral | any behavior that makes him unselectable :P |
| 13:50.54 | Helral | the behavior would state that the flag is turned on. |
| 13:51.11 | Helral | you can always output if the flag is set or not. |
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| 13:51.22 | Clord | it makes wonder random generator of SCII if someone gets three nuke cards straight and there is less than 0,5% chance to even get one............... way less |
| 13:51.50 | Helral | Boolean bool = Unit is Unselectable (or something) Text Message String(bool); orsomething. |
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| 13:52.10 | SweetZombieJesus | ok lemme test |
| 13:52.21 | SweetZombieJesus | by just forcing unselectable off, see if that fixes it |
| 13:52.56 | SweetZombieJesus | nope |
| 13:53.04 | SweetZombieJesus | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.07 | SweetZombieJesus | doesnt fixes it |
| 13:53.11 | SweetZombieJesus | fi |
| 13:53.13 | SweetZombieJesus | fix**** |
| 13:54.42 | SweetZombieJesus | but its the only unit that has that |
| 13:54.52 | SweetZombieJesus | so it has to be something specific to him |
| 13:54.58 | SweetZombieJesus | its a Zealot... |
| 13:56.26 | Helral | did you look at the unit-flags values? |
| 13:56.50 | Helral | or movement - radius. |
| 13:56.50 | SweetZombieJesus | a million times |
| 13:57.06 | SweetZombieJesus | FieldGame - Belios Unit - FlagsTurnable, Movable, Cannot Be Clicked, Cannot Be Highlighted, No Tooltip |
| 13:57.07 | SweetZombieJesus | same as my other units |
| 13:57.50 | SweetZombieJesus | found it i think |
| 13:58.04 | SweetZombieJesus | FieldGame - Belios Unit - Select AliasGame - Belios |
| 13:58.07 | SweetZombieJesus | that would be it |
| 13:58.09 | SweetZombieJesus | was empty |
| 13:59.04 | Helral | would be weird if that fixes it. |
| 13:59.34 | SweetZombieJesus | it did though |
| 13:59.41 | SweetZombieJesus | had to reset to parent value |
| 13:59.53 | Helral | that should only govern the doubleclicking on the unit. :S |
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| 14:00.27 | Helral | tooltips don't state the complete function.... |
| 14:00.49 | Helral | if I wanted to prevent that dubbelclicking would select all units of this one unit type. I'd leave that field empty. |
| 14:01.00 | Helral | and suddenly I can't selerct any unit of thet type anymore O.o |
| 14:01.07 | Helral | that is so screwed up. |
| 14:01.43 | SweetZombieJesus | isnt that subgroup alias? |
| 14:01.57 | SweetZombieJesus | oh wait it says double clicking |
| 14:01.58 | SweetZombieJesus | but |
| 14:02.03 | SweetZombieJesus | make a different alias for it then? |
| 14:02.24 | Helral | that alias is shared for that single unit type. |
| 14:02.30 | SweetZombieJesus | right |
| 14:02.33 | SweetZombieJesus | well |
| 14:02.37 | SweetZombieJesus | then i guess you cant change it |
| 14:02.43 | SweetZombieJesus | but is that such a big deal? |
| 14:02.50 | Helral | I just want to enforce that the player cannot select multiple units of that onit type by dubbelclicking for whatever reason. |
| 14:02.51 | Helral | :P |
| 14:03.14 | SweetZombieJesus | =/ |
| 14:03.26 | Otixa | fu guys |
| 14:03.26 | Otixa | ;p |
| 14:03.28 | Helral | why do I want to do it, because it looks possible reading the tooltip :P |
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| 14:03.35 | Helral | stabs Otixa |
| 14:03.40 | SweetZombieJesus | lol |
| 14:03.43 | SweetZombieJesus | enough reason i suppose :P |
| 14:03.43 | Helral | activates stab deflector |
| 14:03.46 | Mattavich | SZJ |
| 14:03.51 | Clord | if you wanna swear.. do it properly |
| 14:03.55 | Clord | you lazy typer |
| 14:03.56 | Otixa | Motherfucker >:[ |
| 14:03.58 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:04.03 | Clord | that's better |
| 14:04.14 | Helral | just not enough spirit in that one :P |
| 14:04.20 | Nash|327 | FATHERMOCKER |
| 14:04.29 | Otixa | kicks Nash|327 |
| 14:04.41 | Clord | fu = funny urine? |
| 14:04.45 | Clord | you get that point |
| 14:04.49 | Clord | it not feel like swearing |
| 14:04.51 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:04.52 | Helral | Fuzzy Unit ;p |
| 14:04.54 | Nash|327 | Fluffy ursines |
| 14:05.01 | Helral | Furry Unit |
| 14:05.16 | Clord | let's not go to anime territory |
| 14:05.17 | Clord | lol |
| 14:05.24 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 14:05.24 | Clord | furry bunny whatever |
| 14:05.41 | Nash|327 | Furries Unite! |
| 14:05.46 | Helral | Footbal United ;p that better |
| 14:05.54 | Helral | Fluffies United. |
| 14:06.11 | Clord | funglar united |
| 14:06.19 | Helral | French United (.......( |
| 14:06.31 | Nash|327 | The furry acceptance movement. |
| 14:06.48 | Helral | welcom to Furry University |
| 14:07.28 | Helral | here at FU we teach everything that was ever learned about Furries. |
| 14:07.53 | Nash|327 | You mean that episode of CSI? |
| 14:07.58 | Otixa | Yiff in hell |
| 14:08.00 | Otixa | >:[ |
| 14:08.01 | Helral | which one? |
| 14:08.08 | Nash|327 | With the furries. |
| 14:08.16 | Helral | think I missed it ;p |
| 14:11.03 | Clord | one quite popular server provicer for various games... I mean they host them for themeselves... is GTFOgaming |
| 14:11.03 | Clord | XD |
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| 14:11.56 | Clord | http://www.gtfogaming.co.uk/ |
| 14:12.51 | Nash|327 | GTFO |
| 14:13.55 | Clord | considering almost always I nearly make it applications to get to be moderator or something else.... I'm sick of applications ^^ |
| 14:14.55 | Clord | but meh |
| 14:15.09 | Clord | situation has at least somewhat changed lol ^^ |
| 14:15.32 | Nash|327 | Your sentence construction is terribly confusing at times. |
| 14:15.53 | Otixa | And grammar |
| 14:16.31 | Nash|327 | Indeed, but that is part of what I meant by sentence construction. |
| 14:17.02 | Clord | hehe..... I have been selected various places around internet sometimes too.... :) |
| 14:17.38 | Otixa | That's why I mostly don't bother reading anything he says ;P |
| 14:17.43 | Arthas- | For updates to this document check http://id.dragonfire.net/ |
| 14:17.43 | Arthas- | ... Unless of course it is now the year 2001 and this has become another |
| 14:17.43 | Arthas- | document floating around on an FTP with some author nobody knows what |
| 14:17.43 | Arthas- | happened to. |
| 14:17.46 | Arthas- | :p |
| 14:17.54 | Arthas- | oh, hi otixa :D |
| 14:18.06 | SweetZombieJesus | what would be the correct subforum if i make a post asking for minigames ideas? you know, community input and all that |
| 14:18.06 | Otixa | GTFO |
| 14:18.10 | Arthas- | :( |
| 14:18.16 | Nash|327 | Project Workplace? |
| 14:18.24 | SweetZombieJesus | but its not busy enough :P |
| 14:18.43 | Nash|327 | TOO BAD |
| 14:18.47 | SweetZombieJesus | cry |
| 14:18.59 | Clord | actually it has been mostly... in GTFOgaming case it was that I was not from UK so their monthly payment being admin was dreadful |
| 14:19.00 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:19.30 | SweetZombieJesus | i hate making videos |
| 14:19.44 | Otixa | Clord, stop talking please ;/ |
| 14:19.45 | SweetZombieJesus | who can i upload 5gb material to so they can make a quick 20s video? :P |
| 14:19.50 | Otixa | You make my mind hurt |
| 14:19.53 | Clord | places where I got selected like news poster and more I just lost interest over time |
| 14:20.11 | Nash|327 | Clord is worse than Yoda. |
| 14:20.24 | Otixa | Nash|327, Yoda makes sense |
| 14:20.51 | Otixa | Clord, talk when type you how do sense make? |
| 14:20.52 | Nash|327 | Yes, that would be the most notable difference. |
| 14:21.25 | Clord | but Yoda not make excuses to make others shut up |
| 14:21.26 | Clord | lol |
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| 14:21.43 | Otixa | smacks Eiviyn |
| 14:22.32 | Otixa | down,back,down,back,HK+HP+LP+LK |
| 14:22.43 | Otixa | ULTRA COMBO |
| 14:23.42 | Nash|327 | M-M-M-MONSTER KILL |
| 14:24.15 | Otixa | mmh |
| 14:24.21 | Arthas- | up up down down left right left right b a start? |
| 14:24.22 | SweetZombieJesus | ANIMALITY! |
| 14:24.23 | Otixa | Still have like 20 envelopes to open ;/ |
| 14:24.47 | Otixa | People need to lern2email |
| 14:25.00 | SweetZombieJesus | toss away |
| 14:25.03 | SweetZombieJesus | its just bills |
| 14:25.10 | Otixa | But what if it's important? :/ |
| 14:25.18 | SweetZombieJesus | TOSS! |
| 14:25.22 | Otixa | Noe |
| 14:25.25 | Otixa | Could be from uni! |
| 14:25.47 | Eiviyn | Unimportant |
| 14:25.54 | Eiviyn | So |
| 14:25.59 | Clord | tomb raider naking command is also famous |
| 14:26.04 | Eiviyn | I sat to myself for a few hours today |
| 14:26.07 | Eiviyn | Trying to make an easy way for people to view my map |
| 14:26.20 | Eiviyn | So after quite some searching |
| 14:26.24 | Eiviyn | I discovered |
| 14:26.31 | Eiviyn | That in the custom map setting list, you can sort maps by game speed |
| 14:26.47 | Clord | congrats |
| 14:26.51 | Eiviyn | If you sort by "Slow", there's literally only 2 maps on the list |
| 14:26.53 | Eiviyn | So I thought to myself |
| 14:26.55 | Eiviyn | Hey |
| 14:26.58 | Eiviyn | This is cool |
| 14:27.07 | Eiviyn | I'll just make my map use the slow game speed |
| 14:27.09 | Eiviyn | And tell people to find it using that |
| 14:27.20 | Eiviyn | So I upload it with the new game variant |
| 14:27.21 | Clord | so you try to bump your map with speed setting... making those few who actually check that feature out to find your map |
| 14:27.21 | SweetZombieJesus | just set it to slow and turn it to faster with trigger |
| 14:27.22 | Eiviyn | And I start it up |
| 14:27.26 | Otixa | ohey |
| 14:27.34 | Otixa | I have a Windows Game Programming module this year |
| 14:27.34 | Eiviyn | Only to find... it's set to fastest by force |
| 14:27.35 | Otixa | :D |
| 14:27.43 | Clord | that is some sneaky business practice right there |
| 14:27.47 | Eiviyn | I tried for 2 hours trying to change it to slow |
| 14:27.48 | SweetZombieJesus | did you use the right variant? |
| 14:27.50 | Clord | it might just work! |
| 14:28.00 | Eiviyn | Yes. |
| 14:28.04 | SweetZombieJesus | lobby is weird |
| 14:28.07 | Otixa | Eiviyn |
| 14:28.09 | SweetZombieJesus | i still dont understand it |
| 14:28.09 | Eiviyn | Well |
| 14:28.09 | Eiviyn | There's some maps |
| 14:28.10 | Otixa | smacks Eiviyn |
| 14:28.12 | Otixa | No. |
| 14:28.16 | Eiviyn | That are set to Fast by default |
| 14:28.21 | Otixa | You're a bad Eiviyn |
| 14:28.22 | Eiviyn | I don't know how they did it |
| 14:28.25 | Otixa | No variants for you |
| 14:28.42 | Eiviyn | I found one |
| 14:28.46 | Eiviyn | Opened it up |
| 14:28.53 | Eiviyn | And there was nothing special at all about the game variants |
| 14:28.59 | Eiviyn | Nothing I hadn't already tried |
| 14:29.00 | Eiviyn | So alas |
| 14:29.06 | Eiviyn | Back to page 4 popularity for me |
| 14:29.32 | Clord | their mega patch comes in next few days |
| 14:29.43 | Clord | then your map might gain more popularity |
| 14:30.14 | Eiviyn | Also while panicking over this sorting fail |
| 14:30.21 | Eiviyn | My youtube video imploded |
| 14:30.21 | Eiviyn | I mean really... |
| 14:30.30 | Eiviyn | Why the hate |
| 14:31.01 | Otixa | Why must I have so much mail? >:| |
| 14:31.22 | Otixa | I have this shit |
| 14:31.24 | Otixa | UK sux! |
| 14:31.27 | Otixa | RAAARGH |
| 14:31.34 | Otixa | er |
| 14:31.35 | Otixa | hate* |
| 14:31.36 | Eiviyn | 3 hours it will take to re-upload that video |
| 14:31.48 | Eiviyn | And there's a chance youtube might reject it on account of being too similar to the original failed upload |
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| 14:32.00 | Eiviyn | ....why am I uploading it as 1080p |
| 14:32.01 | Otixa | gloats |
| 14:32.08 | SweetZombieJesus | 1080p is cool |
| 14:32.24 | Otixa | ooh |
| 14:32.33 | Otixa | Electorial Registration 2010/11 |
| 14:32.43 | Clord | young kids are easily amazed |
| 14:32.46 | Otixa | Can I vote for myself? :D |
| 14:32.48 | Clord | from 1080p |
| 14:32.53 | Clord | it makes them orgasmic |
| 14:32.56 | SweetZombieJesus | yes! |
| 14:33.00 | SweetZombieJesus | its like |
| 14:33.01 | SweetZombieJesus | pretty |
| 14:33.34 | Clord | I should probably as Utixa if he think same as target audience |
| 14:33.35 | Clord | ;) |
| 14:33.47 | Otixa | Overstuffed letter from bank ;o |
| 14:33.53 | Otixa | Maybe there's money inside... ¬_¬ |
| 14:34.14 | Eiviyn | Or a cat. |
| 14:34.28 | Otixa | Cuntord, you should probably yourself be kill as speak do not you English |
| 14:34.48 | Otixa | Eiviyn, a dead cat? ;o |
| 14:35.01 | Clord | I wonder when he realized that he is ignored.... like quite while ago |
| 14:36.14 | Clord | you just can't reason with some people |
| 14:36.19 | Clord | and then they annoy you until get ignored |
| 14:36.37 | Otixa | Apparently I can get free travel insurance if I upgrade my account |
| 14:37.24 | ReckeD | man, the blizzard lobby system is embarassing |
| 14:37.41 | Nash|327 | NO DEAD CATS |
| 14:37.44 | Nash|327 | I KILL YOU |
| 14:39.10 | Eiviyn | Yeah |
| 14:39.15 | Eiviyn | It's unreal how bad it is |
| 14:39.25 | Eiviyn | There really should just be a tab in the editor |
| 14:39.28 | Eiviyn | Titled game lobby |
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| 14:39.34 | Eiviyn | That lets you edit every aspect of the lobby |
| 14:39.43 | Eiviyn | Which slot is what player ingame |
| 14:39.47 | Eiviyn | So slot 1 would be player 1 etc |
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| 14:39.51 | Clord | also... search box in join game list is like no brainer |
| 14:40.00 | Eiviyn | Yeah |
| 14:40.05 | Eiviyn | You know what's more stupid? |
| 14:40.09 | Eiviyn | There's a search box for creating games |
| 14:40.12 | Eiviyn | But not for joining |
| 14:40.14 | Eiviyn | Really |
| 14:40.16 | Eiviyn | Eh |
| 14:41.01 | Clord | also create game button should be above join game |
| 14:41.11 | Otixa | Holy shit |
| 14:41.16 | Otixa | I finally sorted my mail |
| 14:41.22 | Otixa | Out of like 50 letters |
| 14:41.32 | Eiviyn | There's some nice features in this game system |
| 14:41.32 | Otixa | 5 or so had stuff I care about |
| 14:41.33 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 14:41.34 | Eiviyn | Like |
| 14:41.39 | Eiviyn | There's not 3 pages of dota games |
| 14:41.53 | Eiviyn | And it's easy to get full lobbies for popular games |
| 14:42.09 | Eiviyn | It's just... insanely difficult to make your map available to people |
| 14:42.16 | Nash|327 | and it's easy to BOOST YOUR OWN MAP |
| 14:42.43 | Eiviyn | Too lazy for that :((( |
| 14:42.55 | Clord | however in WCIII even... nowadays to get map played means using ghost++ and insane internet connection... it simulates basically SCII style to do lobbies |
| 14:43.05 | Nash|327 | I am not. However, I refuse to do so. |
| 14:43.41 | Clord | no matter if game would use WCIII style system or SCII one... after certain point new map just not stand chance... |
| 14:44.45 | Clord | unless it comes from author who already has popular map quite while |
| 14:44.52 | Clord | then it is different case as it can tell via own site |
| 14:44.56 | Clord | he... |
| 14:45.03 | Clord | and every "fan" rush to play it |
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| 14:45.19 | Nash|327 | ZERG RUSH KEKE ^_^;; |
| 14:45.25 | Clord | ^^^ |
| 14:45.40 | Clord | SCII has really nonsense balance lol |
| 14:45.43 | Clord | yeah zergling rush |
| 14:46.53 | Eiviyn | I think tomorrow I'm just going to try and boost my map to the 2nd page |
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| 14:48.56 | Fromethius | helral you there? |
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| 14:49.57 | Blacksoldier | hello |
| 14:50.33 | Fromethius | hi |
| 14:51.03 | Eiviyn | How long do you need to stay in a game for the popularity to count? |
| 14:51.06 | Blacksoldier | which difference makes te order in the dependecies? |
| 14:51.14 | Fromethius | 5 minutes |
| 14:51.16 | Fromethius | story first |
| 14:51.19 | Blacksoldier | 5 min imo |
| 14:51.29 | Blacksoldier | and why fro? |
| 14:51.36 | Eiviyn | 5 minutes of game time or real time? |
| 14:51.42 | Fromethius | real time probably |
| 14:51.50 | Fromethius | what do you mean why? it only works if story is first |
| 14:52.01 | Eiviyn | Do you even need story... |
| 14:52.10 | Fromethius | if you want to use the campaign |
| 14:52.11 | Fromethius | if not no |
| 14:52.19 | Blacksoldier | i just need the campaign units |
| 14:52.20 | Eiviyn | What, no |
| 14:52.25 | Fromethius | then you need story |
| 14:52.26 | Eiviyn | I only have campaign and mod |
| 14:52.30 | Eiviyn | And I'm using campaign units |
| 14:52.33 | Eiviyn | No story |
| 14:52.35 | Eiviyn | Mod first |
| 14:52.37 | Eiviyn | Campaign 2nd |
| 14:53.10 | Blacksoldier | i have campaign-mod-multi mod |
| 14:53.33 | Blacksoldier | it works but i read there could be starnge bugs like 2 weapons and so on |
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| 14:54.23 | Fromethius | is anyone here familiar with the Any Unit Takes Damage trigger? For some reason if the damage is fatal then all the stacks of a certain behavior on him is removed. Anyone know why? |
| 14:54.38 | Otixa | highlights Xaragoth to annoy him |
| 14:54.50 | Fromethius | i can still fetch fields like life maximum and not all behaviors on the unit are removed. it's weird.. |
| 14:55.06 | Xaragoth | hits otixa with a baseball bat. |
| 14:55.07 | Xaragoth | shut up |
| 14:55.08 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 14:55.11 | Otixa | NoU |
| 14:55.16 | Fromethius | >.< |
| 14:55.19 | Otixa | What is this? T-mobile? |
| 14:55.28 | Otixa | How the fuck are you gonna stream shit? >:[ |
| 14:55.54 | Otixa | kicks Xaragoth in the face |
| 14:57.03 | Otixa | Also, apparently I'm under OMG INVESTIGATION bcause I didn't pay my "TV license" ¬_¬ |
| 14:57.13 | Otixa | I don't even have a fucking TV |
| 14:57.15 | Otixa | GTFO |
| 14:57.42 | Otixa | This is bullshit anyway |
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| 14:57.48 | Otixa | Paying a tax for owning a TV |
| 14:57.53 | Otixa | what. the. fuck. |
| 14:58.04 | Xaragoth | heh, yeah |
| 14:58.10 | Hati | we have this all time in germany :x |
| 14:58.19 | Otixa | What's next? Laptop tax? ¬_¬ |
| 14:58.25 | Hati | that one too |
| 14:58.54 | Otixa | I'll pay my taxes in the form of kicking people in the face >:| |
| 14:59.30 | Hati | every electronic entertainment device which could see "public" tv has to be payed ... |
| 14:59.35 | Hati | with "taxes" (GEZ) |
| 14:59.50 | Otixa | Yeh, same bullshit here |
| 14:59.57 | Otixa | Tho, I have no TV |
| 15:00.05 | Xaragoth | though I usually tell the idiot GEZ to GTFO when they show up >> |
| 15:00.05 | Otixa | Nor do I watch TV |
| 15:00.26 | Otixa | No Discovery Channel - No interest |
| 15:00.28 | Blacksoldier | even if we dont wqatch public... cuz public tv is bullshit |
| 15:00.32 | Blacksoldier | only news are good there |
| 15:00.34 | Blacksoldier | sometimes |
| 15:01.12 | Nash|327 | qq |
| 15:02.01 | Otixa | Anyway |
| 15:02.07 | Otixa | Xaragoth, can we go now? >:| |
| 15:02.16 | Nash|327 | I watch "TV" on the internets |
| 15:02.25 | Xaragoth | No, we can't >> |
| 15:02.29 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 15:02.39 | Otixa | C'mon, you dicknipple |
| 15:02.42 | Otixa | I wanna play |
| 15:02.47 | Nash|327 | lies |
| 15:03.12 | Nash|327 | I need sleep D_D |
| 15:03.46 | Otixa | I need to finish this cheesecake and fanta |
| 15:03.54 | Otixa | So I can proceed with cleaning my desk <_< |
| 15:04.04 | Otixa | ...then kitchen |
| 15:04.06 | Otixa | ;/ |
| 15:04.36 | Xaragoth | don't remind me of cleaning X_x |
| 15:05.05 | Otixa | I need to hire a maid here too ;/ |
| 15:05.20 | Otixa | Actually, that's a pretty good idea |
| 15:05.25 | Otixa | TO THE GOOGLE MOBILE |
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| 15:09.39 | Otixa | That don't tell you any prices on teh website >:| |
| 15:11.08 | ReckeD | why the fuck did publishing my map create so many new bugs |
| 15:11.49 | ReckeD | testing it on b.net when it was private had everything near perfect, i publish publicly and now units are pathing incorrectly, triggers arent firing lobbies are filling incorrectly |
| 15:11.54 | ReckeD | NERDRAGE |
| 15:12.12 | Otixa | gloats |
| 15:16.11 | Resinate | more like rage quit lol |
| 15:16.13 | Resinate | see my map |
| 15:16.17 | Resinate | i used for the contest |
| 15:16.20 | Resinate | was publicly tested |
| 15:16.24 | Resinate | then deleted |
| 15:17.12 | ReckeD | and then? |
| 15:17.27 | Resinate | anyone able to help me boost? |
| 15:17.35 | Resinate | i have a timer system with alarms |
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| 15:29.19 | Xaragoth | xara is hungry |
| 15:29.36 | Xaragoth | I shall devour the sun, eat the living and get myself a good steak |
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| 15:41.07 | Resinate | guys |
| 15:41.14 | Resinate | whats a good LOUD alarm sound in sc2? |
| 15:41.28 | Resinate | even using 2000% |
| 15:41.30 | Resinate | doesnt work |
| 15:41.31 | SweetZombieJesus | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/11321-community-input-minigame-ideas-requested/ |
| 15:44.29 | Blacksoldier | sweet - u know this game giving u a sequence of some colours - getting longer each rund and you have to remember them? u could implement that |
| 15:45.00 | SweetZombieJesus | i could but its not particulairly fun :P |
| 15:45.30 | Blacksoldier | same as ur simon sais ;-) |
| 15:45.37 | SweetZombieJesus | yes exactly |
| 15:45.43 | SweetZombieJesus | thats why im not doing the color thing too :P |
| 15:46.16 | Blacksoldier | bow shooting? |
| 15:46.23 | Xaragoth | better |
| 15:46.25 | Xaragoth | gnome tossing |
| 15:46.27 | Xaragoth | get a gnome from wow |
| 15:46.33 | Xaragoth | and toss it as far as you can |
| 15:46.34 | Xaragoth | ! |
| 15:46.38 | SweetZombieJesus | lol |
| 15:46.49 | Otixa | Actually |
| 15:46.52 | Otixa | Here's an idea |
| 15:46.56 | SweetZombieJesus | feel free to work out that idea and post it in that thread |
| 15:47.00 | Otixa | It exists as an Xbox Arcade game |
| 15:47.01 | SweetZombieJesus | if its actually fun i will make it |
| 15:47.10 | Otixa | You have mirrors |
| 15:47.13 | Xaragoth | just tossing the gnome is fun in itself |
| 15:47.14 | Otixa | And a line |
| 15:47.24 | Otixa | You have to guess the reflection's position |
| 15:47.33 | Otixa | on the "inside" of the mirror |
| 15:47.45 | SweetZombieJesus | youll make the mirror? |
| 15:47.51 | Blacksoldier | what about a map u have to collect beans - the strongest fart (most beans) will win at the end |
| 15:47.52 | Otixa | No ;P |
| 15:47.55 | Otixa | Just make a line |
| 15:48.03 | Otixa | I don't remember the name of the game tho |
| 15:48.23 | SweetZombieJesus | give video |
| 15:48.52 | Otixa | yeye, looking for the name of the game |
| 15:49.01 | SweetZombieJesus | Blacksoldier: your ideas are too simple :P |
| 15:49.53 | Blacksoldier | u could do powerbeans and special beans and spels for wrong beans - letting players collect em cause to fart earlier |
| 15:50.16 | Blacksoldier | so its kinda more challenging |
| 15:50.40 | Resinate | guys |
| 15:50.47 | Resinate | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.54 | Resinate | why doesnt the 500% work |
| 15:51.01 | Resinate | its only playing 100% |
| 15:51.05 | Clord | put it 500% and I mute my volume |
| 15:51.06 | Clord | XD |
| 15:51.08 | SweetZombieJesus | Blacksoldier: work out that idea (scifi style :P) and post it in the forums |
| 15:51.21 | SweetZombieJesus | dunno but for me 100% was the max too |
| 15:51.24 | Resinate | its an alarm |
| 15:51.26 | Resinate | for my timer |
| 15:52.00 | Blacksoldier | replace beans with vespine gas ;-) and forst one baefes wins |
| 15:52.12 | Blacksoldier | *barfes |
| 15:52.25 | SweetZombieJesus | k now work out the idea then |
| 15:52.30 | SweetZombieJesus | i have penty of half ideas |
| 15:52.34 | SweetZombieJesus | the last half is the hard part |
| 15:52.38 | Otixa | SweetZombieJesus, can't find it ¬_¬ |
| 15:52.47 | SweetZombieJesus | :( |
| 15:52.48 | Otixa | I'll tell you when/if the airport delivers my baggage |
| 15:52.58 | Clord | it is common mistake to type "vespene" wrong but oh well... nitpicking |
| 15:53.07 | Clord | one map was full that mistake |
| 15:53.08 | Clord | XD |
| 15:53.26 | Resinate | whats the loudest sound |
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| 15:53.27 | Resinate | ? |
| 15:53.28 | SweetZombieJesus | pff the grammar in most maps is horrible |
| 15:53.43 | Xaragoth | we should call the grammar police |
| 15:53.52 | Clord | meh |
| 15:53.57 | Xaragoth | hey clord, jesus |
| 15:54.02 | Xaragoth | lets try some of the new stuff |
| 15:54.03 | Clord | even quality assurance can't handle it |
| 15:54.04 | Otixa | Xackery, I'm already here |
| 15:54.09 | Clord | okay |
| 15:54.11 | Clord | xaragoth |
| 15:54.12 | Clord | :) |
| 15:54.17 | SweetZombieJesus | i have to study Xaragoth |
| 15:54.27 | SweetZombieJesus | irc already distracting me too much >_> |
| 15:54.36 | Otixa | Actually |
| 15:54.40 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 15:54.41 | Xaragoth | study |
| 15:54.41 | Otixa | SweetZombieJesus, make a tron-like minigame |
| 15:54.45 | Otixa | I'd play that |
| 15:54.48 | SweetZombieJesus | is on the list already |
| 15:55.00 | SweetZombieJesus | im just not sure how collision is gonna work |
| 15:55.01 | Resinate | u know |
| 15:55.05 | Resinate | i just noticed |
| 15:55.11 | Resinate | sc2 has some very shitty sounds |
| 15:55.17 | Resinate | everything is hella quiet |
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| 15:55.29 | SweetZombieJesus | thats cause they are set to 3d |
| 15:55.31 | SweetZombieJesus | set them to 2d |
| 15:55.39 | SweetZombieJesus | duplicate sound and change that |
| 15:55.40 | Resinate | they are 2d |
| 15:55.50 | Clord | check your audio card lol |
| 15:55.50 | Resinate | im modding the zer alert |
| 15:55.53 | Clord | SCII sounds are just fine |
| 15:55.59 | Resinate | no |
| 15:55.59 | SweetZombieJesus | well then turn up your volume |
| 15:56.01 | SweetZombieJesus | sounds are fine |
| 15:56.05 | Resinate | on max volume ingame |
| 15:56.09 | Resinate | like |
| 15:56.11 | Resinate | its hella quiet |
| 15:56.14 | Resinate | if i turn it up |
| 15:56.19 | Resinate | my msn will blow my ears out |
| 15:56.35 | Resinate | i hear msn over any sound in sc2 by like 20x |
| 15:56.36 | Clord | you should not intentionally damage your ears |
| 15:56.40 | Clord | XD |
| 15:56.51 | Clord | something is wrong if sound difference is so high |
| 15:56.51 | Resinate | im trying to make a sound in sc2 play louder than anothe game |
| 15:57.10 | Resinate | cuz im playing a mario game while boosting |
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| 15:59.04 | pinzu | guys |
| 15:59.14 | pinzu | I've "finnished" my map |
| 15:59.17 | Resinate | ROFL!!! |
| 15:59.20 | Resinate | i found the bug |
| 15:59.24 | Resinate | its the trigger |
| 15:59.29 | pinzu | its a minesweepers but I need help with one thing |
| 15:59.29 | Resinate | the % doesnt work at all |
| 15:59.34 | Resinate | i set it to 0 |
| 15:59.37 | Resinate | and its still 100% |
| 16:00.59 | pinzu | http://uploading.com/files/f2a4emdm/Minesweepers.SC2Map/ |
| 16:01.10 | pinzu | please try it, and if you know how to auto reveal blank area |
| 16:01.10 | pinzu | s |
| 16:01.13 | pinzu | please tell me |
| 16:01.21 | pinzu | I will add cosmetics another day |
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| 16:02.11 | Otixa | kicks wOlfLinG |
| 16:03.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Driscoll (4c5bf1a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.91.241.168) |
| 16:03.50 | Driscoll | hey, how do i test a multiplayer map with a friend? |
| 16:03.53 | pinzu | anyone tried it+ ;] |
| 16:04.02 | Driscoll | i dont have to publish it do i |
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| 16:04.24 | wOlfLinG | punches Otixa |
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| 16:04.29 | wOlfLinG | >:( |
| 16:05.46 | Driscoll | anyone know? |
| 16:06.09 | wOlfLinG | You have to publish it |
| 16:06.18 | wOlfLinG | Or do the cache trick |
| 16:06.44 | wOlfLinG | Which involves replacing the cache of a map with you file, getting your friend to do it as well then hosting the map |
| 16:06.57 | pinzu | repeat: http://uploading.com/files/f2a4emdm/Minesweepers.SC2Map/ open, and run! |
| 16:07.06 | Driscoll | i guess ill just publish it |
| 16:07.31 | wOlfLinG | ya, it's easier |
| 16:07.50 | Driscoll | huh, i can't seem to find anything clear about how to publish |
| 16:07.59 | Driscoll | is there a golden tutorial somewhere |
| 16:08.28 | wOlfLinG | File -> Publish :) |
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| 16:08.49 | Driscoll | whoa whoa whoa wolfling |
| 16:08.58 | Driscoll | slow down |
| 16:09.00 | wOlfLinG | :P |
| 16:09.03 | Driscoll | sounds complicated |
| 16:09.11 | Driscoll | apparently "micro" is an unacceptable word |
| 16:09.38 | wOlfLinG | lol, ya |
| 16:09.56 | Resinate | HAHA |
| 16:09.58 | Resinate | THAT WORKS |
| 16:10.00 | Resinate | nice and loud |
| 16:10.47 | Resinate | now i can boost while playing snes |
| 16:11.27 | Driscoll | where is this "lock/unlock" option? |
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| 16:12.03 | Triceron | Ahoy mateys |
| 16:12.42 | wOlfLinG | In the publish options |
| 16:12.57 | Driscoll | oh duh |
| 16:13.00 | Driscoll | i am the worst |
| 16:13.23 | wOlfLinG | yup ^^ |
| 16:17.33 | Colawaffle | is there any notable mapmaking comunnity other than mapster? |
| 16:18.05 | `228zip | Did you ask Google ? |
| 16:18.20 | Colawaffle | ya |
| 16:18.31 | Colawaffle | most of them are inactive:( |
| 16:18.34 | `228zip | Yeah |
| 16:18.42 | RodOfNOD | be ye a pirate Triceron? |
| 16:18.42 | goomba_ | were the coolest |
| 16:18.48 | RodOfNOD | hey goomba_ |
| 16:18.48 | `228zip | SC2Mapster actually got the very first custom map out |
| 16:18.51 | `228zip | Before the editor |
| 16:18.52 | goomba_ | sup |
| 16:19.01 | Colawaffle | seems like the community is more active during beta |
| 16:19.03 | `228zip | Hence why it's now dominant |
| 16:19.07 | RodOfNOD | http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/5489/goomba.jpg |
| 16:19.08 | anteevy | any help here? ;) http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/11106-change-pylon-power-range-model/ |
| 16:19.19 | goomba_ | :D |
| 16:19.27 | goomba_ | thats cool lookin |
| 16:19.41 | RodOfNOD | ya thats the older model u can see the hole in the side |
| 16:19.43 | RodOfNOD | if u look :P |
| 16:19.51 | goomba_ | o |
| 16:19.54 | `228zip | I wish Blizzard's system was different, they haven't given much signs of their will to change it |
| 16:20.55 | pinzu | sexy ;9 |
| 16:21.15 | goomba_ | hangover |
| 16:21.18 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 16:21.26 | RodOfNOD | thats the country spawn pinzu |
| 16:21.54 | pinzu | I have the perfect map for that: a alpha minesweepers! |
| 16:22.00 | pinzu | http://uploading.com/files/f2a4emdm/Minesweepers.SC2Map/ |
| 16:22.20 | Colawaffle | i cant wait to see the winners of the contest |
| 16:24.12 | ReckeD | How do you set priorities for sounds, i have some alerts which play imported sound clips but they dont play 100% of the time |
| 16:24.47 | Blacksoldier | the winner will be a totally crappy map i think ^^ |
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| 16:26.17 | Colawaffle | the entries in the contest seem interesting |
| 16:26.27 | Colawaffle | a street fighter map, haha |
| 16:26.42 | Blacksoldier | where can i see the entries? |
| 16:27.26 | Colawaffle | a thread in mapster forum |
| 16:27.33 | Vulfe | Oh |
| 16:27.34 | Vulfe | hi everyone |
| 16:27.36 | Vulfe | what's up |
| 16:27.38 | Colawaffle | general discussion |
| 16:28.41 | Xaragoth | need 3 people for this catalyst map |
| 16:28.44 | Xaragoth | who wants to play? :O |
| 16:30.42 | Xaragoth | 2 people for catalyst :O |
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| 16:31.38 | Ousnius | heya |
| 16:31.48 | pinzu | here is my map; http://uploading.com/files/f2a4emdm/Minesweepers.SC2Map/ |
| 16:31.52 | pinzu | need help with 1 thing |
| 16:32.02 | pinzu | the detecting blank slots |
| 16:32.07 | pinzu | and auto opening them |
| 16:32.11 | pinzu | (its a mine sweepers) |
| 16:35.49 | wOlfLinG | pokes Otixa |
| 16:36.26 | Xaragoth | one more for catalyst |
| 16:36.51 | Triceron | stabs Otixa before he can evade |
| 16:39.18 | Xaragoth | wOlfLinG. You're EU, right ?. Come and play |
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| 16:49.22 | Vulfe | pinzu: The way it does it in minesweeper is that it looks at every square adjacent to the one that you click. If an adjacent square is empty, then it checks the squares around it to see if they're empty, etc. |
| 16:49.36 | Vulfe | When the squares aren't empty, it counts the ones with the bombs and places the numbers |
| 16:50.10 | pinzu | hmm, |
| 16:50.18 | pinzu | i am talking about revealing the blanks |
| 16:50.47 | Vulfe | me too |
| 16:50.48 | pinzu | but how would i make it check it all around |
| 16:50.58 | pinzu | I understand the concept |
| 16:51.00 | Vulfe | You have to save the squares to a grid |
| 16:51.05 | Vulfe | probably |
| 16:51.06 | pinzu | they are |
| 16:51.08 | pinzu | in a grid |
| 16:51.16 | Vulfe | I mean as global variables |
| 16:51.22 | Vulfe | are they saved as globals? |
| 16:51.25 | pinzu | ye |
| 16:51.28 | Vulfe | ah |
| 16:51.31 | Vulfe | Then in that case |
| 16:51.39 | Vulfe | Are you using mouseclick detection? |
| 16:51.49 | pinzu | yes, dialog button |
| 16:52.11 | Vulfe | Wait, is the whole game in a dialog? |
| 16:52.15 | pinzu | yes |
| 16:52.27 | pinzu | i can link the map |
| 16:52.29 | Vulfe | How are the dialog buttons saved; you'll probably want a double array |
| 16:52.37 | pinzu | they are |
| 16:52.39 | Vulfe | (I don't have the editor on this computer) |
| 16:52.43 | pinzu | dialogB[x][y] |
| 16:52.44 | Vulfe | That's easier then |
| 16:52.51 | Vulfe | check which dialog button is clicked |
| 16:53.03 | pinzu | i have, but I dont know how to expand the search |
| 16:53.04 | Vulfe | set it to a local, such as activeButton or something |
| 16:53.34 | pinzu | what happens if you run |
| 16:53.40 | Vulfe | ? |
| 16:53.47 | pinzu | the same function in a function |
| 16:54.03 | Vulfe | nothing bad, as long as it terminates at some point |
| 16:54.03 | Vulfe | lol |
| 16:54.36 | Vulfe | you'd probably need a property of dialog buttons to see if they've been checked |
| 16:55.01 | pinzu | yup adding it now |
| 16:55.05 | pinzu | bool |
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| 16:55.25 | Vulfe | and another property for how many bombs are around it |
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| 16:57.11 | Vulfe | so when a button is clicked, you run to see how many bombs are around it, set that value to what it should be, and set its "checked" state to true. Then, for every adjacent square that is not a bomb, you do the same thing, ad infinitum |
| 16:57.20 | pinzu | curretly |
| 16:57.25 | Vulfe | The trick is that you don't propagate it to squares that are already checked |
| 16:57.27 | pinzu | at the setup each button is designated a value |
| 16:57.29 | Vulfe | or that are bombs |
| 16:57.39 | pinzu | so if there is a bomb in the slot |
| 16:57.45 | pinzu | it gets the value -120 |
| 16:58.00 | pinzu | and for each bomb near slot X Y the value raises from 0 |
| 16:58.03 | pinzu | and up |
| 16:58.06 | pinzu | depending on how many is near it |
| 16:58.17 | Vulfe | ah |
| 16:58.19 | Vulfe | that's nifty |
| 16:58.27 | pinzu | and 0 = blank |
| 16:59.03 | pinzu | once you click on a blank or a number the button is disabled |
| 17:00.04 | Vulfe | In any event, you'll need to check which square is clicked to get its X and Y values, then check the squares that are (X+1,Y), (X-1,Y), (X,Y+1), (X,Y-1) to see if they're bombs anyway |
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| 17:00.14 | Vulfe | set the clicked square's "checked" state to true |
| 17:00.23 | Vulfe | and reveal its number |
| 17:00.43 | Vulfe | then run the same actions for every square that isn't a bomb or already checked |
| 17:00.46 | Vulfe | I hope that helps |
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| 17:01.12 | Vulfe | for every adjacent square, ofc |
| 17:01.25 | Vulfe | not every square |
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| 17:11.17 | Vulfe | SO |
| 17:11.20 | Vulfe | How is everyone? |
| 17:11.39 | RodOfNOD | everyone is grande! |
| 17:11.56 | arturusfury | hey now |
| 17:13.58 | Blacksoldier | vulfe - im MOOOOH |
| 17:14.02 | Blacksoldier | how are you? |
| 17:14.08 | Vulfe | I'm pretty okay right now |
| 17:14.16 | Vulfe | looking at forums stuff |
| 17:14.17 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 17:14.39 | Vulfe | The forums suck; they always ruin the daily things on the homepage for me |
| 17:14.43 | Vulfe | lol |
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| 17:20.14 | IskatuMesk | god of war 3 gamerip came out |
| 17:20.16 | IskatuMesk | hurey |
| 17:20.23 | IskatuMesk | lots of amazing music to be had |
| 17:20.32 | ReckeD | Have there been any updates to the lobby system, its a joke |
| 17:21.25 | Jum-Jum | :O |
| 17:21.29 | Jum-Jum | rip the music for me please! :$ |
| 17:22.57 | Resinate | anyone here wanna help me boost my map to 50? |
| 17:23.25 | ReckeD | im second page now |
| 17:23.27 | Resinate | all u do is hit a key |
| 17:23.30 | Resinate | and wait for an alarm |
| 17:23.31 | ReckeD | *proud* |
| 17:23.42 | Resinate | reck u been boosting? |
| 17:23.49 | ReckeD | no actually |
| 17:23.52 | Resinate | lol |
| 17:23.55 | Resinate | what map |
| 17:23.56 | ReckeD | its slow in SEA this time of night |
| 17:24.01 | Resinate | thats why |
| 17:24.05 | ReckeD | people been joining while iv been polishing off a few things |
| 17:24.09 | Resinate | in usa top 5 pages is 200+ games |
| 17:24.12 | Resinate | alrdy |
| 17:24.53 | Blacksoldier | u have to boost 17 hors non stop then oO |
| 17:24.55 | Blacksoldier | *hours |
| 17:25.22 | ReckeD | in SEA, second page is between 12 and 92 |
| 17:26.16 | Blacksoldier | got no motivation to do my map atm |
| 17:26.23 | Blacksoldier | just sitting here and watching tv oO |
| 17:31.23 | Fromethius | is it possible to make a custom move command? i made but it's not working =/ |
| 17:31.26 | Fromethius | the unit just stands there |
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| 17:36.18 | Huesy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsEz_E_P8lg |
| 17:39.35 | RodOfNOD | Otixa why do you have 2 lls in modelling when it should be modeling :P |
| 17:41.13 | Vulfe | He's the perfect zergling |
| 17:41.15 | Vulfe | the modelling |
| 17:41.22 | Vulfe | made a pun |
| 17:41.29 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 17:41.31 | RodOfNOD | yes u did |
| 17:41.51 | RodOfNOD | while you can spell modeling with 2 ls its ugly |
| 17:42.45 | RodOfNOD | hey did u finish my spells vulfe? |
| 17:43.22 | Otixa | RodOfNOD, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/modelling |
| 17:43.36 | RodOfNOD | yes but if u see taht says british spelling |
| 17:43.48 | RodOfNOD | i never said it wasnt ok i said it was ugly |
| 17:44.24 | Otixa | /carepolice |
| 17:44.27 | Otixa | anyway |
| 17:44.29 | RodOfNOD | if u have a word like work? do you put 2 ks? |
| 17:44.32 | Otixa | gotta finish cleaning |
| 17:44.33 | RodOfNOD | workking? |
| 17:45.40 | ReckeD | masturbatting |
| 17:45.50 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 17:45.56 | ReckeD | makes sense to me |
| 17:45.59 | RodOfNOD | only if u have a penis the size of a bat |
| 17:46.06 | ReckeD | gives it his seal of approval! |
| 17:47.08 | Otixa | damn ;/ |
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| 17:47.14 | Otixa | have to move the laptop |
| 17:47.22 | RodOfNOD | hey Zoxc |
| 17:47.23 | Otixa | But it's plugged into router now ¬_¬ |
| 17:48.03 | Helral | RodOfNOD: why did you do a disappearing act :P |
| 17:48.14 | RodOfNOD | i had to reboot my comp? |
| 17:48.19 | Helral | hehehe |
| 17:48.32 | pinzu | can one detect rightclicks on a dialogbutton? |
| 17:48.40 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 17:48.47 | RodOfNOD | at least helral cant figure it out |
| 17:49.07 | pinzu | then it dosnt exist |
| 17:49.13 | pinzu | ^^ |
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| 17:52.01 | Otixa | k |
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| 18:00.48 | Oninji | Is there a doodad for a doorstep/rampstep ? |
| 18:02.53 | Oninji | Seems not, oh well |
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| 18:05.05 | Vulfe | I |
| 18:05.07 | Vulfe | Hi |
| 18:05.08 | Vulfe | rather |
| 18:05.10 | Vulfe | everyone |
| 18:05.11 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 18:05.30 | Oninji | Hellow |
| 18:05.41 | Komodo1138 | hey Vulfe |
| 18:05.49 | Vulfe | So |
| 18:05.56 | Vulfe | Who needs help or moral support today |
| 18:06.38 | Oninji | Ahah XD So you're like the Modder Cheer? :P |
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| 18:10.03 | Vulfe | something like that |
| 18:11.16 | Oninji | I'm bored out of my mind, doing ground texturing... erf |
| 18:12.00 | pinzu | I didnt manage to do it, I failed ;( |
| 18:12.14 | Vulfe | HOW COULD YOU |
| 18:12.26 | Oninji | Failed what? XD |
| 18:12.30 | pinzu | My coding logic sence is none exisistant forgive me |
| 18:12.31 | pinzu | ;( |
| 18:12.49 | pinzu | a mine sweeper-thing |
| 18:12.55 | Oninji | Ah pl |
| 18:12.57 | Oninji | *ok |
| 18:13.01 | Vulfe | if you paste the triggers to pastebin |
| 18:13.05 | Vulfe | I'll help debug it |
| 18:13.14 | Vulfe | unless it's just like an "idk wtf I'm doing" type thing |
| 18:13.30 | pinzu | well, Its no bug, I just have no clue of how to write the check for blank things |
| 18:14.10 | Vulfe | lol |
| 18:14.20 | Vulfe | well |
| 18:14.35 | Vulfe | how are you saving the data for the buttons |
| 18:14.38 | Vulfe | for the squares, as it were |
| 18:14.58 | Vulfe | like how many are adjacent, whether it's a bomb, etc |
| 18:16.00 | ReckeD | ~seen sixen |
| 18:16.10 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (1d 21h 4m 38s) #wowuidev (1d 21h 4m 38s). Has said a total of 23 messages. Is idling for 19h 19m 36s, last said: 'It was also 10 years ago'. |
| 18:16.10 | pinzu | okey |
| 18:16.10 | pinzu | I will share you the setup |
| 18:17.12 | pinzu | http://pastebin.com/m6XPDGSu |
| 18:17.13 | pinzu | there |
| 18:17.15 | Oninji | Sixen is ALWAY here... Lurking ¬¬ He's like a peeping tom |
| 18:17.53 | pinzu | basically as I said befor a negative value is a bomb |
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| 18:18.03 | pinzu | 0 is blank and the other is the display values |
| 18:18.08 | pinzu | if its positive |
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| 18:22.04 | pinzu | you checked it out? |
| 18:22.12 | Vulfe | yeah a bit |
| 18:22.36 | pinzu | lets say we clicked button and got the value of its position x;y |
| 18:22.43 | pinzu | how would we check all nearby zeroes and reveal them |
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| 18:23.28 | Vulfe | how are you planning on "revealing" with the buttons |
| 18:23.29 | pinzu | here is a post on it; http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ but... |
| 18:23.34 | Vulfe | by removing them? changing colors? |
| 18:23.45 | pinzu | they get disabled |
| 18:23.51 | pinzu | and shows a number |
| 18:23.51 | Vulfe | ah |
| 18:23.59 | pinzu | or just blank |
| 18:24.08 | Vulfe | well |
| 18:24.09 | pinzu | havn't implemented flags yet but |
| 18:24.23 | pinzu | shouldn't be too much a problem once this is finished |
| 18:24.26 | Vulfe | I would recommend making a function action to do it |
| 18:24.38 | pinzu | yea, but how exacly would it look |
| 18:24.38 | Vulfe | because otherwise it's basically impossible |
| 18:24.39 | Vulfe | lol |
| 18:24.43 | Vulfe | well |
| 18:24.47 | pinzu | index (x,y) |
| 18:24.59 | pinzu | or input* but apart form that..? |
| 18:25.03 | Vulfe | Takes int, int |
| 18:25.04 | Vulfe | that's it |
| 18:25.18 | Vulfe | it reveals the square that you choose |
| 18:25.23 | Vulfe | initially |
| 18:25.24 | Mattavich | anyone else getting gateway down when publishing? |
| 18:25.48 | Vulfe | and then, it checks the slot_value for the ones near it |
| 18:25.50 | pinzu | but how would I feed it with multiple squares, I cant grasp that |
| 18:25.57 | Vulfe | hold on just a second |
| 18:26.02 | Vulfe | the function will run itself ^^ |
| 18:26.20 | pinzu | so basically.. you are saying |
| 18:26.38 | pinzu | you have a function revealing all nearby the blanks |
| 18:26.45 | pinzu | and if there is a blank nearby the blank |
| 18:26.51 | Vulfe | yes |
| 18:26.52 | Vulfe | well |
| 18:26.53 | pinzu | you run the function with that input |
| 18:26.56 | pinzu | ? |
| 18:26.57 | Vulfe | this is how it happens in minesweeper |
| 18:26.58 | Vulfe | yes |
| 18:27.07 | Vulfe | but the boolean keeps the function from running forevevr |
| 18:27.16 | Vulfe | so it doesn't run the function on squares that have already been checked |
| 18:27.51 | Vulfe | I'm going to go over to my computer with the editor and help you figure this out, lol |
| 18:28.06 | Vulfe | (I also have an essay to write) x.x |
| 18:28.34 | pinzu | chemestry test tomorrow ;) |
| 18:30.06 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 18:30.11 | Otixa | my DNS servers just fell |
| 18:30.28 | Otixa | or something |
| 18:31.29 | Mattavich | anyone getting gateway down on publishing? |
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| 18:32.00 | pinzu | how do we use parameters in custm script? |
| 18:32.10 | pinzu | (lv_x + par_x) |
| 18:32.29 | pinzu | how do we say its a parameter? |
| 18:32.43 | Otixa | k |
| 18:32.50 | Otixa | so apparently the faggots found my bags |
| 18:32.57 | Otixa | and the courier has them |
| 18:33.14 | Otixa | Now they need to get them from London to Stafford ¬_¬ |
| 18:33.21 | Otixa | I had sandwiches in the damn bags |
| 18:34.14 | Demonette | can i somewhere set how "high" a cliff step is? |
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| 18:34.41 | Demonette | haha sandwiches =P |
| 18:34.44 | Otixa | pats Demonette |
| 18:34.52 | Otixa | The airport lost ma baggage >;/ |
| 18:35.00 | Demonette | hurts Otixa. |
| 18:35.05 | Otixa | evades |
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| 18:35.39 | Ousnius | hey did somebody play my TD @EU b.net? |
| 18:35.40 | Demonette | has already entangled Otixa so he can*t evade. |
| 18:35.46 | Ousnius | would like to have some sugestions^^ |
| 18:35.48 | Ousnius | or bugs |
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| 18:36.09 | Demonette | Your the Bug and the rest seems to be nice to me =) |
| 18:36.22 | PointBlank | hey does anyone know how to dynamically add a minimap icon to a unit? |
| 18:36.30 | Mattavich | has anyone played obelisk hellfire on EU? |
| 18:36.45 | PointBlank | i.e. like the dominion kill team or kerrigan in the campaign - the biohazard icon goes on top of them |
| 18:36.54 | Oninji | Demonette, there's a Terrain Cliff Meshes section in the data editor |
| 18:37.10 | Jum-Jum | PointBlank: I dont know how to make one, but you can open up all the campaign maps |
| 18:37.24 | PointBlank | orly, how do u open them up? |
| 18:37.27 | Demonette | Oninji: So i have to change the mesh? =/ |
| 18:37.32 | Jum-Jum | Just press Open |
| 18:37.38 | Oninji | The Height values are there, didn't toyed with them yet. But I know the height values are there. But it could induce bugs, as you'd have to edit about everything |
| 18:37.40 | Jum-Jum | And you have a tab for challenge and campaign maps |
| 18:37.51 | Oninji | And yeah it would be a good idea to change the mesh itself also |
| 18:38.08 | PointBlank | sweet jum-jum thx |
| 18:38.10 | Demonette | Mmmhh i'll test around with it |
| 18:38.18 | Oninji | But in short, there's 4 value |
| 18:38.31 | Ousnius | need perfect bleder im and export >.> NAO! xD |
| 18:38.35 | Ousnius | blender* |
| 18:38.41 | Oninji | -8 (Hole) 0 (Ground) 2 (First Step) (Second Step) |
| 18:38.50 | Oninji | *4 (Second Step |
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| 18:39.30 | Demonette | so the meshes =/ |
| 18:39.47 | Oninji | Well these value change the "Height Value" For unit and the engine |
| 18:39.57 | Oninji | I Don't know if it scale the meshe automaticly |
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| 18:40.37 | Vulfe | Hokay back on a real computer |
| 18:40.50 | pinzu | okey |
| 18:40.55 | pinzu | i have a idea now |
| 18:41.00 | pinzu | could pastebin to show you |
| 18:41.04 | Vulfe | What's the idea? |
| 18:41.44 | pinzu | its messy but.. might work ;9 |
| 18:42.08 | pinzu | http://pastebin.com/D8cnW6DM |
| 18:42.28 | pinzu | 1 of those i showed for each direction |
| 18:44.05 | Vulfe | seems reasonable |
| 18:44.10 | Vulfe | let me look a sec more |
| 18:44.44 | Vulfe | Why are you using if-then-else-if |
| 18:44.45 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 18:45.14 | Demonette | mmmhh at the moment it doesn't seems to stretch the mesh |
| 18:46.10 | Mattavich | FS is anyone else having problems publishing their map? |
| 18:46.26 | Blacksoldier | no |
| 18:46.28 | Blacksoldier | why? |
| 18:46.35 | Mattavich | i keep getting gateway down |
| 18:46.36 | Blacksoldier | but i dont publish atm |
| 18:46.44 | Blacksoldier | ^^ |
| 18:46.59 | pinzu | cus im crazy |
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| 18:49.20 | Demonette | Mmmmhh changing the heigt value messes the whole stuff XD |
| 18:51.16 | ReckeD | cant say i am mattavich |
| 18:52.02 | Mattavich | i keep pressing publish and it keeps saying gatewat down :( |
| 18:52.07 | Mattavich | im in EU |
| 18:52.42 | pinzu | perhaps it is down? |
| 18:52.47 | pinzu | have you tried connecting? ;d |
| 18:52.54 | Mattavich | i can log on in game yeah |
| 18:53.00 | Mattavich | but not publish |
| 18:53.12 | pinzu | HAHA IT WORKS! :D |
| 18:53.56 | Vulfe | Congrats |
| 18:53.58 | Vulfe | You're welcome |
| 18:54.01 | Vulfe | O_O |
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| 18:55.12 | pinzu | <3 |
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| 18:56.20 | Mattavich | grrrrrr publish damn you |
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| 18:56.36 | ReckeD | what you publishing matta? |
| 18:58.08 | pinzu | hmm, 1 value is wrong |
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| 18:58.30 | pinzu | doesn't get revelead |
| 18:58.55 | Vulfe | interesante |
| 18:58.58 | Vulfe | I'm working on my map now |
| 18:59.01 | Vulfe | O_o |
| 18:59.07 | pinzu | np |
| 18:59.11 | Vulfe | any suggestions for a layout of a 2-side CTF arena? |
| 18:59.52 | pinzu | ahh, does doesnt just pop out of nowhere ;d |
| 19:02.26 | pinzu | Im geting some weird bugs, some times it works perfectly some times it doesnt.. ;/ |
| 19:02.40 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 19:02.44 | Vulfe | maybe problems with the edges |
| 19:02.47 | Vulfe | ? |
| 19:03.08 | pinzu | ye, it returns index overflow at edges Some times... |
| 19:03.11 | pinzu | but it bugs at the center aswell |
| 19:03.14 | pinzu | some times* |
| 19:03.19 | pinzu | really random |
| 19:03.26 | Vulfe | hmm |
| 19:03.31 | Vulfe | All I can say is to look it over |
| 19:03.33 | Vulfe | O_o |
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| 19:09.03 | ReckeD | fuck i hate forgetting to reset debug triggers and stuff once your finished debugging |
| 19:09.15 | Vulfe | lol |
| 19:09.18 | ReckeD | publish my map and then realise triggers disabled, zzz, annoying =P |
| 19:09.32 | ReckeD | the perils of mapping at 5am =( |
| 19:09.56 | RodOfNOD | pinzu pastebin ur trigger |
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| 19:14.04 | Eiviyn | Anyone else have a habit of right clicking triggers and trying to find "duplicate" |
| 19:15.09 | Demonette | strg+c strg + v |
| 19:18.51 | Oninji | When the model imported is due? anyone know? |
| 19:19.30 | FatheadSteve | okay that dungeon keeper demo is pretty awesome |
| 19:20.10 | Oninji | Someone is doing a DK-Like? :O |
| 19:20.17 | FatheadSteve | not really |
| 19:20.20 | FatheadSteve | they are porting DK |
| 19:20.28 | FatheadSteve | its on the mapster front page |
| 19:21.16 | Resinate | LOL |
| 19:21.21 | Resinate | soo many map boosts |
| 19:21.33 | Resinate | 10 pages of all games 200+ |
| 19:21.35 | Resinate | lol |
| 19:21.45 | Resinate | kinda funny |
| 19:21.57 | Resinate | best map is now based on who has most boosts LOL |
| 19:23.18 | FatheadSteve | boosts? |
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| 19:30.11 | Eiviyn | On US? |
| 19:30.21 | Eiviyn | EU it's like, page 3 games are in the 20s |
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| 19:33.09 | ReckeD | can you disable the Achievements/Help button whilest leaving the menu and message log buttons? |
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| 19:37.48 | progammer | anyone on NA can try out this new map here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SfnVeYp0zE |
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| 19:39.52 | Vulfe | lol |
| 19:39.54 | Vulfe | that looks cool |
| 19:39.55 | Vulfe | progammer |
| 19:40.14 | progammer | u can try out, its public now |
| 19:41.31 | Vulfe | meh |
| 19:41.33 | Vulfe | working :P |
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| 19:46.02 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen Bifuu |
| 19:46.09 | purl | bifuu <~Bifuu@cpe-071-077-145-012.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 8d 5h 4m 11s ago, saying: 'i win'. |
| 19:46.13 | goomba_ | consider it commented |
| 19:46.15 | goomba_ | upon |
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| 19:46.34 | Resinate | anyone wanna play some kaotic |
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| 19:48.11 | Blacksoldier | damn...................i have really hard motivation problems.... wanna do my map... but ... watching tv all the time oO |
| 19:49.47 | Vulfe | lol |
| 19:49.50 | Vulfe | I wanna do my homework |
| 19:49.53 | Vulfe | but mapping all the time |
| 19:50.22 | Blacksoldier | ^^ |
| 19:50.29 | Resinate | i wanna do my gf but im mapping all the time |
| 19:50.34 | goomba_ | have you guys seen this? |
| 19:50.38 | goomba_ | it is the most rediculous shit ever |
| 19:50.39 | goomba_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_aZYcFvQUA&feature=related |
| 19:50.48 | Blacksoldier | now a third one is missing wanting to watch tv but is making homework allt he time ^^ |
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| 19:53.08 | Resinate | i took a crap down stairs |
| 19:53.13 | Resinate | and i smeel it thru my floor |
| 19:53.28 | Vulfe | holy shit goomba |
| 19:53.29 | Vulfe | that's amazing |
| 19:53.38 | goomba_ | i know |
| 19:53.46 | Resinate | aww vulfe |
| 19:53.46 | goomba_ | this shit gives me a headache watching this |
| 19:53.51 | Resinate | i thought u was talking to me lol |
| 19:53.56 | Vulfe | lol |
| 19:54.23 | Resinate | for a white kid i can scare of the mexis with my shit |
| 19:54.24 | Resinate | XD |
| 19:54.24 | goomba_ | @5:00 is also incredible |
| 19:55.29 | TheRingBearer | Feel like I am going crazy.... I can't find this sound file I imported in the editor. |
| 19:55.59 | Resinate | oh goomba |
| 19:56.00 | Resinate | watch this |
| 19:56.01 | Resinate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-iw143gkoY&feature=related |
| 19:58.22 | goomba_ | rofl the music |
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| 19:58.47 | RodOfNOD | goomba_ they fucked up they didnt sinc it when they put on their coats |
| 19:58.54 | Resinate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqe90LTNfco&NR=1&feature=fvwp |
| 19:58.57 | Resinate | ROFL |
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| 19:59.09 | goomba_ | the coats was the only thing |
| 19:59.12 | goomba_ | in the entire 9 min |
| 19:59.16 | goomba_ | that wasnt synchronized |
| 19:59.24 | goomba_ | dude they walk backwards between eachother |
| 19:59.27 | goomba_ | without colliding |
| 19:59.28 | goomba_ | wtf? |
| 19:59.41 | Vulfe | japanese have small collision size |
| 19:59.52 | goomba_ | xD |
| 20:01.57 | lotharscm | how do you set up a validator that will remove behavior as soon as the unit deals any amount of damage to any target |
| 20:05.51 | RodOfNOD | ya goomba_ backwards was killer |
| 20:06.09 | Vulfe | I hope Spellots is popular when I release the full version |
| 20:06.20 | Vulfe | O_o |
| 20:06.26 | Vulfe | I hope the library that I make is also useful |
| 20:06.42 | Eiviyn | I have 33 abilities on 1 unit, go me |
| 20:06.46 | Eiviyn | Stupid 32 ability limit |
| 20:09.55 | Resinate | WTF |
| 20:10.00 | Resinate | i capped my glue at 60 fps |
| 20:10.06 | Resinate | and my card was over heating |
| 20:10.16 | Resinate | at 73 degrees C |
| 20:11.33 | RodOfNOD | lol Eiviyn |
| 20:11.43 | RodOfNOD | how did u get #33 on? |
| 20:11.56 | Eiviyn | "You have reached the 32 ability limit" |
| 20:11.57 | Eiviyn | What |
| 20:11.58 | Eiviyn | Okay |
| 20:12.02 | Eiviyn | *changes command card* |
| 20:12.07 | Eiviyn | *adds ability* |
| 20:12.12 | Eiviyn | smrt system |
| 20:12.31 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 20:13.16 | RodOfNOD | the cc could have possibly 60 slots |
| 20:13.22 | RodOfNOD | but the unit can still only have 32 |
| 20:13.27 | RodOfNOD | so not sure what ur saying |
| 20:13.33 | Eiviyn | My unit has 33 abilities |
| 20:13.45 | RodOfNOD | how did u add anohtter one on top of 32 |
| 20:13.47 | Eiviyn | So, clearly it can! |
| 20:13.52 | Eiviyn | Told you, used a 2nd command card |
| 20:14.02 | RodOfNOD | but the cc isnt the only spot where u add abilities |
| 20:14.23 | RodOfNOD | u have to add the ability to the ability+ first |
| 20:14.32 | Eiviyn | Wha |
| 20:14.34 | Eiviyn | No |
| 20:14.38 | Eiviyn | You can just add parent abilities |
| 20:14.41 | Eiviyn | Which each hold 32 |
| 20:14.56 | RodOfNOD | explain |
| 20:14.59 | Eiviyn | I did |
| 20:15.08 | Eiviyn | When you click an scv |
| 20:15.10 | Eiviyn | And press build |
| 20:15.14 | Eiviyn | That's a parent ability |
| 20:15.18 | RodOfNOD | sure |
| 20:15.19 | Eiviyn | And it counts as 1 ability |
| 20:15.25 | Eiviyn | Even though there's like 12 slots there |
| 20:16.05 | RodOfNOD | ok so u can have 60 then? |
| 20:16.54 | RodOfNOD | i know why i would want more than 32 abilities on a unit but why would u want more than 32 buttons on a unit? |
| 20:17.30 | Blacksoldier | u xan have endless abilities when each ability can have up to 32 under ablilities with each 32 underabilities |
| 20:17.33 | goomba_ | redmarine here |
| 20:17.35 | goomba_ | ? |
| 20:18.12 | RodOfNOD | well here is my issue Blacksoldier i want to have say 10 abilities show but out of a possible 100 abilities |
| 20:18.19 | RodOfNOD | so how would i do that all on the first cc page |
| 20:19.21 | Blacksoldier | dunno |
| 20:19.36 | RodOfNOD | Eiviyn ideas? |
| 20:19.52 | Blacksoldier | u will have to add submenues |
| 20:19.58 | RodOfNOD | i have a unit that can have a 10 out of a random 100 abilities every game |
| 20:19.59 | Blacksoldier | or swapbuttons |
| 20:20.08 | RodOfNOD | swapping buttons is very tricky |
| 20:20.17 | Blacksoldier | woiuld be same |
| 20:20.25 | Blacksoldier | submenu with same first row |
| 20:20.33 | RodOfNOD | wouldnt help |
| 20:20.37 | RodOfNOD | i dont want submenus |
| 20:20.45 | RodOfNOD | i want 10 abilities out of 100 choices all on page 1 |
| 20:20.56 | Blacksoldier | delete patrol and stop command |
| 20:21.02 | Blacksoldier | hold attack and move is enough |
| 20:21.03 | Blacksoldier | +imo |
| 20:21.03 | RodOfNOD | how would tha thelp |
| 20:21.06 | ReckeD | Rod |
| 20:21.09 | RodOfNOD | yes? |
| 20:21.10 | ReckeD | use dialogs? |
| 20:21.13 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 20:21.19 | RodOfNOD | doesnt work for 1000s of units recked |
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| 20:21.28 | ReckeD | why? |
| 20:21.32 | RodOfNOD | this isnt a hero unit |
| 20:21.38 | RodOfNOD | it would lag like a mother |
| 20:21.58 | RodOfNOD | the only solution i have currently is |
| 20:22.02 | RodOfNOD | have an icon from 1-10 |
| 20:22.04 | Blacksoldier | u will need to use triggers i think |
| 20:22.08 | RodOfNOD | and change the tooltips etc inside |
| 20:22.18 | ReckeD | you could use a key system |
| 20:22.19 | RodOfNOD | cuz u can change everything but the actual icon |
| 20:22.20 | Blacksoldier | or thousands of requirements |
| 20:22.26 | Blacksoldier | each with 1 upgrade |
| 20:22.41 | Blacksoldier | and then say uograde button 1 - upgrade button 2+ |
| 20:22.42 | RodOfNOD | yes but u are still limited to 32 per slot |
| 20:22.46 | ReckeD | Rod |
| 20:22.52 | Blacksoldier | and each catergory will get a random choice |
| 20:22.53 | RodOfNOD | yep? |
| 20:22.55 | goomba_ | anyone ever play the game lego rock raiders |
| 20:23.01 | ReckeD | use a key system and have a set of dummy units with the actualy abilities |
| 20:23.15 | ReckeD | youur unit uses ability 7 and 4 |
| 20:23.24 | RodOfNOD | its more complicated than that |
| 20:23.26 | ReckeD | and it applies behaviors 7 and 4 |
| 20:23.32 | RodOfNOD | i want the user to pick where the abilities go |
| 20:23.38 | ReckeD | then have your dummy unit cast the ability when both behaviors exist |
| 20:23.55 | ReckeD | okay one sec |
| 20:24.04 | Resinate | guys |
| 20:24.07 | RodOfNOD | let me simply the issue |
| 20:24.08 | Resinate | NEW BUG IN SC2 |
| 20:24.15 | Resinate | theres a new overheating glitch in sc2 |
| 20:24.38 | Eiviyn | Indeed what recked said |
| 20:24.43 | Resinate | my card just went to 83 degree C |
| 20:24.50 | Eiviyn | You'd have 4 abilities on your unit |
| 20:24.56 | Eiviyn | Each labelled like, 1, 2, 3 and 4 |
| 20:25.03 | Eiviyn | Then you'd have like, 100 hidden abilities |
| 20:25.09 | Eiviyn | Your player presses 1 |
| 20:25.10 | ReckeD | yep |
| 20:25.10 | Resinate | can u guys see my chats? |
| 20:25.25 | Eiviyn | You have a trigger that makes the unit cast the ability assigned to 1 |
| 20:25.29 | Eiviyn | No Resinate |
| 20:25.35 | ReckeD | and rod, it wouldnt be hard to have the player assign the position |
| 20:25.37 | Resinate | why the fk |
| 20:25.43 | RodOfNOD | have u tried recked? |
| 20:25.44 | Resinate | is my card running so dam hot for |
| 20:25.54 | RodOfNOD | dynamic command cards are a major pain in the ass |
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| 20:25.59 | RodOfNOD | its the ICON |
| 20:26.01 | RodOfNOD | that is the issue |
| 20:26.02 | ReckeD | give the player another ability which simply creates a dummy unit, have the behaviors transfer to the dummy |
| 20:26.08 | ReckeD | thne the dummy unit creates the effects |
| 20:26.17 | RodOfNOD | casting the spell isnt the real issue |
| 20:26.21 | RodOfNOD | its the UI |
| 20:26.32 | ReckeD | the ui is going to be fucked no matter how you do it |
| 20:26.33 | RodOfNOD | id prefer to have real icons |
| 20:26.40 | ReckeD | unless you use dialogs, but as you said, lagfest |
| 20:26.42 | RodOfNOD | ell that is the issue i have problems with |
| 20:27.10 | RodOfNOD | i dont get why if a unit has 2 abilities that fill the same slot it doesnt move it to the right |
| 20:27.14 | ReckeD | call me crazy, but is it unreasonable to think a ui could be made using units? |
| 20:27.33 | RodOfNOD | i mean it did it in wc3 |
| 20:27.38 | RodOfNOD | why dont they do it in sc2 |
| 20:28.09 | Blacksoldier | is there a limit of buttons per cc slot? |
| 20:28.36 | ReckeD | good question..? |
| 20:28.40 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 20:28.43 | RodOfNOD | 32i believe |
| 20:28.46 | ReckeD | 32 |
| 20:28.48 | ReckeD | x32 |
| 20:28.51 | Blacksoldier | u believe or u know? |
| 20:28.56 | ReckeD | and you cant get 100 abilities in one unit? |
| 20:28.56 | RodOfNOD | im 90% sure |
| 20:28.59 | ReckeD | whats your deal rod |
| 20:29.06 | Blacksoldier | try it |
| 20:29.14 | RodOfNOD | i have ur missing the issue |
| 20:29.15 | Blacksoldier | this could solve ur problem |
| 20:29.22 | RodOfNOD | this isnt ONE unit |
| 20:29.29 | RodOfNOD | this is 1000s of units |
| 20:29.34 | RodOfNOD | the overhead would be unbearable |
| 20:29.44 | RodOfNOD | in wc3 i could add an ability without the command card crap |
| 20:29.56 | ReckeD | dunno mate, talk to someone whos good with galaxy, maybe they know something we dont |
| 20:30.00 | RodOfNOD | cuz add ability meant add it to the command card |
| 20:30.08 | RodOfNOD | i am good with galaxy |
| 20:30.13 | RodOfNOD | this isnt a galaxy problem |
| 20:30.16 | RodOfNOD | its a data problem |
| 20:32.30 | HeyRevolver | to add a ability to 1000 units you need to use a trigger |
| 20:32.38 | HeyRevolver | unless it is the same unit |
| 20:32.40 | HeyRevolver | 1000x |
| 20:32.51 | RodOfNOD | same unit type |
| 20:33.00 | HeyRevolver | ten you just have to add one ability and one command card button/ability |
| 20:33.26 | RodOfNOD | wish i could explain this so people wouldnt say it was easy |
| 20:33.28 | RodOfNOD | when its not |
| 20:33.28 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 20:33.44 | ReckeD | make a youtube video out of it |
| 20:33.45 | ReckeD | =P |
| 20:33.49 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 20:33.49 | Oninji | Great, my mice just ran out of batteries XD |
| 20:33.55 | HeyRevolver | work on your explanatory skills |
| 20:34.05 | HeyRevolver | 3rd grade was where I learned mine |
| 20:34.06 | HeyRevolver | =P |
| 20:34.09 | pinzu | I could've sworn i'm doing it exacly the same way |
| 20:34.44 | Blacksoldier | so - ur problem is u cant fit 10 random abilities of 100 to 10 fixed buttons of your command card |
| 20:34.48 | RodOfNOD | say you have 3 slots, each unit type can have 3 abiltites chosen from 100 abilities... the slots can be in any order ie ability say heal can be in 1 2 OR 3 the overhead on doing this atm is unbearable and i think might cause lag... |
| 20:35.01 | RodOfNOD | i want the icon to be unique to the ability |
| 20:35.07 | HeyRevolver | Ohhh |
| 20:35.11 | HeyRevolver | yeah thats complicated |
| 20:35.12 | HeyRevolver | as hell |
| 20:35.15 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 20:35.35 | HeyRevolver | i think you would have to use data and trigges |
| 20:35.39 | RodOfNOD | if bliz would just let us dynamically change the fracken icon it would work great |
| 20:35.39 | HeyRevolver | but im not a data wiz |
| 20:35.41 | RodOfNOD | i know |
| 20:35.48 | RodOfNOD | catalog should solve the issue |
| 20:35.50 | RodOfNOD | but no |
| 20:35.56 | RodOfNOD | u cant change the actual icon on a units ability |
| 20:35.56 | HeyRevolver | =/ |
| 20:35.56 | Blacksoldier | the problem i see atm - there is no trigger for editing you command card, isnt it? |
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| 20:36.05 | RodOfNOD | not the icon part |
| 20:36.11 | RodOfNOD | the tooltip yes,the name yes |
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| 20:36.20 | Blacksoldier | mybe it would work with cutom skript... but then im out |
| 20:36.20 | HeyRevolver | Wow... wtf blizz |
| 20:36.59 | RodOfNOD | its funny cuz |
| 20:37.08 | Oninji | Custom UI? |
| 20:37.08 | RodOfNOD | u can change the weapon icon but NOT the weapons name |
| 20:37.16 | RodOfNOD | wont help Oninji not an option |
| 20:37.41 | RodOfNOD | its just an oversight on blizzards part on their upgrades |
| 20:37.51 | RodOfNOD | they could turn it on like that |
| 20:37.58 | HeyRevolver | you could make a crapload of requirement behaviors and but different ones on which buttons you want to show |
| 20:38.24 | RodOfNOD | yes i have done so and it is a crap load :> |
| 20:38.29 | HeyRevolver | =/ |
| 20:38.37 | RodOfNOD | like 15x15 per page |
| 20:38.44 | RodOfNOD | both abilities and requirments |
| 20:38.52 | RodOfNOD | ie so much overhead its not even funny |
| 20:38.59 | HeyRevolver | yeah sounds like a lot |
| 20:39.15 | RodOfNOD | atm im settling for icons with #s |
| 20:39.21 | RodOfNOD | 1-15 |
| 20:39.27 | ReckeD | So glad i got my map published and (for the most part) bug free |
| 20:39.41 | RodOfNOD | and if u look at the details then it will show the name andtooltip on the actual button |
| 20:39.41 | ReckeD | feels like freedom |
| 20:39.47 | RodOfNOD | congrats |
| 20:41.09 | HeyRevolver | wow.. so Rod I just looked at the triggers |
| 20:41.11 | RodOfNOD | but of course what im really trying to do is simply explain.. i have 100 units that a shop would sell. the player can go to the shop and buy things or sell them and if he sells them then they would be placed on the shop... |
| 20:41.23 | HeyRevolver | its like the spcifically dont want you to be able to do what you want lol |
| 20:41.28 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 20:41.32 | RodOfNOD | but shops were easy in wc3 |
| 20:41.37 | RodOfNOD | u want to sell a marine |
| 20:41.43 | RodOfNOD | u added the unit |
| 20:41.46 | RodOfNOD | and voila u cansell it |
| 20:42.00 | HeyRevolver | they fucked items up so bad in sc2... or at least made it insanely complicated |
| 20:42.11 | RodOfNOD | :> |
| 20:42.38 | RodOfNOD | i just cant believe they didnt think people would want dynamic stores in sc2 |
| 20:42.43 | HeyRevolver | seriously |
| 20:43.01 | HeyRevolver | Man you have a lot of option.. but they are all like 10+ hour options =( |
| 20:43.09 | RodOfNOD | of course thats not really what i want to do but its the easiest way to explain it |
| 20:43.15 | HeyRevolver | right |
| 20:43.36 | RodOfNOD | really sucks hard |
| 20:43.57 | HeyRevolver | you could always make a row of stores lol |
| 20:44.03 | HeyRevolver | and make it look cool in the terrain |
| 20:44.07 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 20:44.10 | HeyRevolver | I use rob's gun shop! |
| 20:44.17 | RodOfNOD | yes but u drop off ur item at shop a |
| 20:44.24 | Blacksoldier | hey rod... cant u change the buttons by upgrades? |
| 20:44.25 | RodOfNOD | and now to buy it back u have to go to shop c? |
| 20:44.29 | RodOfNOD | NOT the icon |
| 20:44.30 | HeyRevolver | i see |
| 20:44.40 | RodOfNOD | if i could change hte icon |
| 20:44.42 | RodOfNOD | we wouldnt be talking |
| 20:44.52 | Blacksoldier | so u just have to give a unit 10 dummy buttons and change em by 10 random upgrades out of 100 |
| 20:44.52 | RodOfNOD | tooltip name yes |
| 20:44.52 | HeyRevolver | well the upgrade icon changes for reg upgrads |
| 20:44.56 | HeyRevolver | hows it do that? |
| 20:45.08 | RodOfNOD | ooh |
| 20:45.14 | RodOfNOD | now thats not something ive thought of |
| 20:45.16 | RodOfNOD | tellmemore |
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| 20:47.02 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 20:48.52 | RodOfNOD | icon doesnt change HeyRevolver |
| 20:49.00 | RodOfNOD | unlike wc3 |
| 20:49.13 | HeyRevolver | the icon does change |
| 20:49.25 | HeyRevolver | when you upgrade air armor/weapons ect |
| 20:49.31 | RodOfNOD | shit it does |
| 20:49.35 | RodOfNOD | it didnt look like it on attack |
| 20:49.36 | HeyRevolver | theicon at the structure i mean |
| 20:49.38 | RodOfNOD | goes to look |
| 20:50.22 | RodOfNOD | the ? is how can i get it to not show the ugly needs x to upgrade message |
| 20:53.09 | Vulfe | terraining is fun times |
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| 20:53.16 | Blacksoldier | rod there is another possibility |
| 20:53.27 | RodOfNOD | listens... |
| 20:53.42 | ReckeD | Vulfe, terraining a breath of fresh air |
| 20:53.44 | Blacksoldier | do 100^100 units... each with an other ability combination |
| 20:53.53 | ReckeD | sick of looking at data entries all the time =P |
| 20:54.07 | RodOfNOD | ty Blacksoldier :P |
| 20:54.25 | Blacksoldier | when u start today u could be finished next year |
| 20:54.36 | RodOfNOD | actually i could do that in about an hour |
| 20:54.48 | RodOfNOD | all my data stuff is made via another program |
| 20:55.08 | Blacksoldier | so - whats the problem? |
| 20:55.12 | RodOfNOD | overhead? |
| 20:55.18 | RodOfNOD | 15 unit types |
| 20:55.21 | eggy | RodOfNOD, :-) |
| 20:55.24 | RodOfNOD | x 10000 units come on |
| 20:55.31 | RodOfNOD | game would crash |
| 20:55.38 | Blacksoldier | its just 1500^100 different unit types then |
| 20:55.50 | RodOfNOD | exactly |
| 20:55.53 | RodOfNOD | ill get right on that one |
| 20:56.15 | Blacksoldier | 4,0656117753521523739727970756704e+317 possibilities |
| 20:56.36 | Eiviyn | wtf did you put 1 comma in, then use e+ but skip the first like 15 digits for |
| 20:56.52 | Blacksoldier | , is a dot in germany |
| 20:57.02 | Blacksoldier | we dont say 1.5 we say 1,5 |
| 20:57.06 | Eiviyn | That's wrong |
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| 20:57.12 | Eiviyn | It's scientific notation, it's universal |
| 20:57.13 | RodOfNOD | its evil thats for sure |
| 20:57.24 | Eiviyn | 1,5 is a completely different number to 1.5 |
| 20:57.41 | Blacksoldier | 3/2=1,5 |
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| 20:57.53 | Eiviyn | What's 1,576 then? |
| 20:57.54 | RodOfNOD | ok im looking at the forge upgrades and i see the abilties attached to the upgrades but i dont seewhere the Protoss Ground Armors upgrade is used? |
| 20:58.02 | Vulfe | So, DarkRevenant |
| 20:58.06 | Vulfe | Played any bad games recently? |
| 20:58.06 | Blacksoldier | i dont know what u mean by 1,576 then |
| 20:58.06 | Vulfe | :D |
| 20:58.18 | devilesk2 | euros are scum |
| 20:58.21 | Blacksoldier | 1thousandfiveundresseventysix? |
| 20:58.22 | RodOfNOD | 1576 |
| 20:58.26 | Blacksoldier | 1,576 |
| 20:58.29 | Blacksoldier | is |
| 20:58.32 | Blacksoldier | 1.576 |
| 20:58.34 | Eiviyn | 1,576 and 1.576 just... aren't the same |
| 20:58.36 | devilesk2 | no |
| 20:58.45 | Blacksoldier | 100.000.000,00⬠|
| 20:58.49 | Blacksoldier | for example |
| 20:58.49 | devilesk2 | 1,576 is one thousand five hundred and seventy-six |
| 20:58.49 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 20:58.50 | Otixa | Eiviyn, you phal btw :D |
| 20:58.52 | RodOfNOD | painful |
| 20:58.54 | Otixa | phail* ¬_¬ |
| 20:58.56 | DarkRevenant | argh |
| 20:58.59 | devilesk2 | 100.000.000,00 makes no sense |
| 20:59.04 | Eiviyn | Hah, you failed at failing! |
| 20:59.04 | DarkRevenant | whats up vulfe |
| 20:59.06 | Otixa | moves IRC back to the main screen |
| 20:59.10 | Blacksoldier | its german why of writing numbers |
| 20:59.11 | DarkRevenant | i would have played maps for review |
| 20:59.11 | RodOfNOD | it does if ur in germany |
| 20:59.12 | Otixa | MAIN SCREEN TURN ON |
| 20:59.16 | devilesk2 | it's the stupid way of writing numbers |
| 20:59.18 | DarkRevenant | but bad luck raped me hard |
| 20:59.19 | IskatuMesk | MAIN FACE TURN ON |
| 20:59.26 | Otixa | Eiviyn, you're not supposed to publish your map :D |
| 20:59.27 | Blacksoldier | international is 100,000,000.00 |
| 20:59.37 | Eiviyn | Can after 11th |
| 20:59.42 | devilesk2 | ^ |
| 20:59.43 | DarkRevenant | I'm at my dorm and my parents wouldn't let me bring my desktop, so all i have is a shit laptop |
| 20:59.45 | DarkRevenant | that can't do anything |
| 20:59.48 | Otixa | Orly? ;o |
| 20:59.48 | Eiviyn | And I'm not going to win anyway, because my map uses hidden abilities |
| 20:59.48 | DarkRevenant | game-related |
| 20:59.55 | Eiviyn | And they're "fixing" that |
| 20:59.59 | Otixa | rofl |
| 20:59.59 | Eiviyn | So it's officially broken |
| 21:00.05 | Eiviyn | When they patch the immortal |
| 21:00.09 | Eiviyn | So I just don't care now |
| 21:00.13 | Otixa | Eiviyn, to be fair, the map was pretty decent :> |
| 21:00.13 | Vulfe | why couldn't you bring your desktop? |
| 21:00.17 | Vulfe | laaame |
| 21:00.26 | DarkRevenant | i fucking go home |
| 21:00.26 | Otixa | Tho, balance was kinda phail |
| 21:00.28 | DarkRevenant | on the weekends |
| 21:00.31 | DarkRevenant | to play sc2 |
| 21:00.37 | DarkRevenant | so this weekend |
| 21:00.39 | Eiviyn | I did as much with balance as I could without releasing it |
| 21:00.43 | DarkRevenant | i write both of my previous reviews |
| 21:00.50 | DarkRevenant | and then upload the first one |
| 21:00.55 | RodOfNOD | explain how u used a hidden ability i read about that but dont get how u use it if its not on the command card? |
| 21:00.58 | Eiviyn | The one I submitted to the blizz thing was a 5v5 |
| 21:01.02 | Eiviyn | Well |
| 21:01.05 | Eiviyn | You add a parent ability |
| 21:01.09 | DarkRevenant | and before i get a chance to upload the second review or PLAY ANY OTHER MAPS, the POWER GOES OUT FOR THE WHOLE DAY |
| 21:01.11 | ReckeD | Question: I have a variable that sets players incomes upon finishing construction of a building, i want these buildings to upgrade to different buildings, and then update their income - limitations: i dont want to have to clear unit que to upgrade building, building must stay in the same spot it was in after being upgraded |
| 21:01.11 | Eiviyn | And just don't add a command card function |
| 21:01.14 | ReckeD | any suggestions? |
| 21:01.16 | Otixa | Eiviyn, yet if you have maxed armor and shields+regen, you can just stand near the enemy CC and do /dance |
| 21:01.19 | ReckeD | sorry for the wall of text |
| 21:01.28 | Eiviyn | Well, that's the point |
| 21:01.28 | RodOfNOD | so passive abilties work but not active ones Eiviyn? |
| 21:01.32 | DarkRevenant | the next day (today), the internet is down for the whole neighborhood as well |
| 21:01.34 | Eiviyn | You aren't meant to be able to take out the CC before level 4 gear |
| 21:01.39 | Eiviyn | Which occurs about 20min of game time in |
| 21:01.45 | DarkRevenant | I can finally upload that damned 2nd review now that i'm back at college |
| 21:01.54 | DarkRevenant | but there will be no reviews for a week |
| 21:01.56 | Otixa | Yeah, but you can't actually kill people who max armor and shields ;p |
| 21:01.57 | DarkRevenant | after this |
| 21:01.59 | Eiviyn | However other players with level 4 gear will still rip through even well tuned defences, damage might be a little too high |
| 21:02.21 | Otixa | It took 3 people with tier4 weapons to kill 1 tard |
| 21:02.25 | Otixa | And it took like 2min |
| 21:02.36 | Eiviyn | Wierd |
| 21:02.36 | Eiviyn | Did they use target painters and overcharge |
| 21:02.49 | Otixa | I spammed overcharge on CD ;p |
| 21:02.52 | Eiviyn | Because the abilities are insane damage increases |
| 21:02.54 | Otixa | dunno about the others |
| 21:03.17 | Eiviyn | It's something I'd have to see |
| 21:03.36 | Eiviyn | The way I wanted it was that a player who spent all their money on defences would be really tough to kill, just yeah, that'd be all they were |
| 21:03.37 | Otixa | Also, "play again" gives a blank dialog with cancel :P |
| 21:03.44 | Xaragoth | basically, tune the defense against the offense |
| 21:03.45 | Eiviyn | Really? |
| 21:03.50 | Eiviyn | It worked for me |
| 21:03.54 | Eiviyn | Well |
| 21:03.55 | Eiviyn | No |
| 21:04.02 | Otixa | Yes |
| 21:04.03 | Xaragoth | also, another suggestion for your map would be to add some kind of powernode system @ eiviyn |
| 21:04.05 | Eiviyn | Play again doesn't work at all, it's just meant to end the game for you |
| 21:04.23 | Otixa | Doesn't even do that :P |
| 21:04.29 | Eiviyn | Wierd |
| 21:04.34 | Eiviyn | Does "Continue" end the game? |
| 21:04.36 | Otixa | Had to Cancel > Quit |
| 21:04.41 | Xaragoth | yes it does |
| 21:04.54 | Eiviyn | That's very odd, because they're the same button in the code :(( |
| 21:05.10 | Otixa | You're doing it wrong somehow :B |
| 21:05.15 | Otixa | doinitrong* |
| 21:05.17 | Eiviyn | Gonna check now |
| 21:05.29 | Xaragoth | basically it came down to steamrolling the mainbase because of the defense :D |
| 21:05.32 | Xaragoth | no pun intended |
| 21:05.34 | Otixa | gives Eiviyn a "breakfast sandwich" |
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| 21:06.03 | Eiviyn | Yeah, there's a lot of fine tuning the gameplay to be done |
| 21:06.09 | Eiviyn | I never expected it to roll out perfect |
| 21:06.14 | Vulfe | http://i51.tinypic.com/jr49yd.jpg |
| 21:06.15 | Vulfe | GUYS |
| 21:06.16 | Otixa | And moar terrain! |
| 21:06.17 | Eiviyn | I think the AI units get too weak towards the end |
| 21:06.20 | Vulfe | I DONT THINK IT HAS ENOUGH DECALS |
| 21:06.26 | Vulfe | AMIRITE!? |
| 21:06.31 | IskatuMesk | needs more |
| 21:06.33 | Otixa | urrite |
| 21:06.55 | Eiviyn | Yeah the trigger to end the game |
| 21:07.02 | Vulfe | I do like that honeycomb effect from the hexagons though |
| 21:07.04 | Eiviyn | Triggers with either play again or continue |
| 21:07.04 | Vulfe | pretty sexy |
| 21:07.10 | Eiviyn | So it's really odd that one works and the other doesn't |
| 21:07.24 | Otixa | Well, dunno about Xaragoth |
| 21:07.29 | Otixa | But I smacked play again |
| 21:07.32 | ReckeD | Anyone have suggestions for this? |
| 21:07.34 | Otixa | And a blank dialog came up |
| 21:07.35 | ReckeD | Question: I have a variable that sets players incomes upon finishing construction of a building, i want these buildings to upgrade to different buildings, and then update their income - limitations: i dont want to have to clear unit que to upgrade building, building must stay in the same spot it was in after being upgraded |
| 21:07.39 | Otixa | With a cancel button on the bottom |
| 21:07.41 | Eiviyn | But yeah |
| 21:07.47 | Otixa | And I was liek "THIS SUX M8" |
| 21:07.48 | Eiviyn | As far as the shield thing is concerned |
| 21:07.49 | Vulfe | Unfortunately, I have to copy all of those decals onto the other size |
| 21:07.49 | Otixa | and ragequit |
| 21:07.50 | Vulfe | side* |
| 21:07.56 | Vulfe | because the map is mirrored |
| 21:07.56 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 21:07.58 | Vulfe | FML |
| 21:08.10 | Eiviyn | 1.1 adds energy weapons that deal decent damage and drain energy, they're a counter to the self healing abilities and the new repair weapons |
| 21:08.20 | Eiviyn | Really proud of the repair weapons |
| 21:08.31 | Xaragoth | eiviyn |
| 21:08.33 | Otixa | pats Eiviyn |
| 21:08.37 | Eiviyn | They auto target 1 nearby ally and won't function without energy |
| 21:08.37 | Otixa | Have a cookie |
| 21:08.41 | Xaragoth | bring in more variation on the weapons |
| 21:08.49 | Xaragoth | its all the same stuff sadly right now |
| 21:08.51 | Eiviyn | Yah, I already added 5 |
| 21:08.55 | Xaragoth | gimme a mine layer for examply |
| 21:08.55 | Eiviyn | New weapon types |
| 21:08.55 | Otixa | And what Xar belched out ^ |
| 21:09.07 | Vulfe | Eiviyn |
| 21:09.09 | Vulfe | what map is this |
| 21:09.12 | Vulfe | Ob? |
| 21:09.13 | Eiviyn | Life repair, shield repair, energy burn, energy drain, and weapons that transfer energy |
| 21:09.21 | Otixa | The fucker keeps chewing on Skype... Loudly >:[ |
| 21:09.21 | Eiviyn | To allies |
| 21:09.27 | ReckeD | Is there anyway to modify shield recharge delay using behaviors? |
| 21:09.31 | Eiviyn | Noes is my own map |
| 21:09.38 | Eiviyn | Tempted to add snare weapons |
| 21:09.40 | Vulfe | what map is ittttt |
| 21:09.41 | Vulfe | TELL ME |
| 21:09.49 | Eiviyn | I did add a new class of drones that snares your target though |
| 21:09.50 | Otixa | Now he's doing it on purpose to annoy me ¬_¬ |
| 21:09.55 | Vulfe | otherwise, I'll be mildly peeved |
| 21:09.57 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 21:09.57 | Xaragoth | sc2 battletanks ripoff basically |
| 21:09.59 | Xaragoth | but its fun |
| 21:10.01 | Vulfe | ah |
| 21:10.02 | Vulfe | that's cool |
| 21:10.07 | Xaragoth | which doesn't wonder |
| 21:10.12 | Xaragoth | because its been good in wc |
| 21:10.13 | Xaragoth | 3 |
| 21:10.13 | Xaragoth | :> |
| 21:10.18 | Otixa | I wouldn't call it fun ;p |
| 21:10.21 | Xaragoth | but not as good balance wise yet |
| 21:10.21 | Otixa | But it's alright |
| 21:10.23 | Eiviyn | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/11297-release-catalyst/ this Vulfe |
| 21:10.35 | Eiviyn | Hey I added a LOT of unique stuff :(( |
| 21:10.43 | Xaragoth | don't see a lot |
| 21:10.43 | Eiviyn | But it's battletanks at it's heart |
| 21:10.45 | SweetZombieJesus | make working video already =/ |
| 21:10.48 | Eiviyn | Well you will soon |
| 21:10.50 | Otixa | Add a power node system |
| 21:10.52 | Eiviyn | Adding new content is easy |
| 21:10.55 | Otixa | Or we'll stab you |
| 21:10.59 | Vulfe | Wait |
| 21:11.01 | Eiviyn | Making the game work is the long part :(( |
| 21:11.02 | Vulfe | You're... |
| 21:11.03 | Vulfe | female!? |
| 21:11.04 | Otixa | I'll come to fecking Leeds, and stab you ¬_¬ |
| 21:11.05 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 21:11.18 | Vulfe | Eiviyn has the creepiest voice every |
| 21:11.19 | Vulfe | ever* |
| 21:11.23 | Vulfe | it sounds half-autotuned |
| 21:11.24 | Vulfe | lol |
| 21:11.24 | ReckeD | i get no love =( |
| 21:11.29 | Otixa | Vulfe, indeed :D |
| 21:11.29 | Eiviyn | Autowhat |
| 21:11.35 | Eiviyn | Might be just bad youtube quality |
| 21:11.49 | Eiviyn | Is that a good thing |
| 21:11.56 | Vulfe | idk |
| 21:11.57 | Vulfe | maybe |
| 21:12.00 | Vulfe | : \ |
| 21:12.20 | Vulfe | pretty cool map |
| 21:12.27 | Vulfe | I was saying someone should make this |
| 21:12.34 | Vulfe | (the whole battleships concept or whatever) |
| 21:12.40 | Otixa | Eiviyn, there's a really nice volume setting for teh mic ;p |
| 21:12.45 | Otixa | TURN THE DAMN SLIDER UP |
| 21:13.31 | Xaragoth | sounds nervous |
| 21:13.43 | Otixa | :D |
| 21:13.44 | Vulfe | Be careful with using glow indicators, Eiviyn |
| 21:13.47 | Xaragoth | like tinman when we leave him in a dark forest with creepy wolfes |
| 21:13.47 | Otixa | That too |
| 21:13.49 | Vulfe | they don't appear on lower quality |
| 21:14.03 | Eiviyn | Yeah not too worried about that |
| 21:14.08 | Eiviyn | The glows aren't essential |
| 21:14.08 | Otixa | Xaragoth, we still need to flame him for bailing out |
| 21:14.14 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 21:14.17 | Eiviyn | Pretty sure people can guess which base is who's :(( |
| 21:14.23 | Xaragoth | yes |
| 21:14.25 | Xaragoth | very hard |
| 21:14.27 | Xaragoth | its red and blue |
| 21:14.41 | Eiviyn | But yeah, I've already prepared a lot of new stuff to add |
| 21:14.44 | Otixa | falls asleep watching the video |
| 21:15.09 | Eiviyn | So many ideas, so little time :((( |
| 21:15.15 | Otixa | Add |
| 21:15.16 | Otixa | The |
| 21:15.17 | Otixa | Damn |
| 21:15.20 | Otixa | Power node system |
| 21:15.22 | Otixa | Now |
| 21:15.32 | Eiviyn | What's a power node system! |
| 21:15.35 | Otixa | It's like 20 lines of code |
| 21:15.39 | Otixa | mmrgh |
| 21:15.44 | Otixa | Basically |
| 21:15.52 | Otixa | You need to capture nodes on the map |
| 21:16.00 | Otixa | Before you can assault the enemy's base |
| 21:16.12 | Otixa | Xar will tell you now |
| 21:16.12 | Xaragoth | never played unreal tournament, did you? |
| 21:16.20 | Eiviyn | Yeah it's something I want to add |
| 21:16.27 | Eiviyn | Along with allowing vehicles to drive down cliffs |
| 21:16.33 | Eiviyn | So I can add gates at the base entrances |
| 21:16.41 | Eiviyn | If you look, there's even places for the gates to go already |
| 21:16.55 | Xaragoth | basically to attack the enemy base, you need to capture a certain amount of nodes that link towards the base. if its not captured, no base-rape |
| 21:16.57 | Eiviyn | Need to add AI attackers that spawn in the middle and work on the defender's outposts too |
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| 21:17.22 | allenmelon | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.42 | Xaragoth | DONT YOU QUESTION SIXEN! |
| 21:17.43 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 21:18.02 | Vulfe | Catalyst looks pretty cool |
| 21:18.20 | Xaragoth | COWS ARE LIQUID CHEESE! |
| 21:18.23 | Otixa | CHEESE IS COWS TURNED INTO WATERY FORM -Xaragoth |
| 21:19.22 | Otixa | Eiviyn, get on Skype |
| 21:19.27 | Eiviyn | n |
| 21:19.35 | Otixa | do it |
| 21:19.38 | Eiviyn | nn |
| 21:19.46 | Otixa | smacks Eiviyn |
| 21:20.04 | Sixen | o_O |
| 21:20.08 | Sixen | oh. |
| 21:20.11 | Otixa | smacks Sixen |
| 21:20.17 | Sixen | vjeux wrote that, I editd it |
| 21:20.26 | Otixa | Wrote wut? |
| 21:20.39 | Xaragoth | I demand my news rights. |
| 21:20.50 | Otixa | I demand Xaragoth stops eating on Skype ¬_¬ |
| 21:20.58 | Xaragoth | shut up |
| 21:21.01 | Xaragoth | i'm eating cows |
| 21:21.15 | Otixa | NOT LIQUID |
| 21:21.20 | Xaragoth | LIQUID |
| 21:21.23 | Otixa | >:[ |
| 21:21.28 | Xaragoth | >:] |
| 21:21.31 | Otixa | :D |
| 21:21.45 | Otixa | drowns Xaragoth in cows |
| 21:22.11 | Xaragoth | oh look, its cheese |
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| 21:28.11 | ReckeD | Is it possible to modify a units shield recharge delay using behaviors? |
| 21:37.24 | Eiviyn | So I was implimenting that power node system |
| 21:37.36 | Eiviyn | Because I really do think it's needed, I was thinking how to get the map to have a feeling of progression |
| 21:37.44 | Eiviyn | And testing the triggers to have units drop in the middle |
| 21:37.49 | Eiviyn | I tried this like, 3 times |
| 21:37.51 | Eiviyn | Wondering |
| 21:37.52 | Eiviyn | Eh |
| 21:37.58 | Eiviyn | There's nothing wrong with these triggers at all |
| 21:38.11 | Eiviyn | Before realising... they were all initially off with nothing to activate them |
| 21:39.33 | Xaragoth | genius. |
| 21:39.48 | ReckeD | just made a new ability, but whenever i click the ability debug just says error |
| 21:39.52 | ReckeD | whats most common causes of that? |
| 21:40.06 | ReckeD | doesnt even get to select target stage |
| 21:40.21 | jorgenpt | ReckeD: Does it say anything /more/ than 'error'? |
| 21:40.24 | ReckeD | nope |
| 21:40.26 | ReckeD | just Error |
| 21:41.04 | Zoxc | who's debug? |
| 21:41.30 | ReckeD | just made a new ability, but whenever i click the ability debug just says error |
| 21:42.00 | Helral | what's the ability type? |
| 21:42.20 | Otixa | smacks Eiviyn |
| 21:42.22 | Otixa | Phael |
| 21:43.00 | ReckeD | effect - target, effect removes behavior, but its not even getting to the 'select unit' thing, just says error as soon as you touch the button |
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| 21:47.32 | ReckeD | this is so weird.. |
| 21:48.15 | jorgenpt | ReckeD: Did you set up the command card ability correct? |
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| 21:48.53 | jorgenpt | ReckeD: So you need three things: An Effect - Target, an Ability and a unit w/ that ability set up correctly in the command card. |
| 21:49.05 | ReckeD | believe so, just added a single button for the execute cmd |
| 21:49.29 | jorgenpt | ReckeD: And the Ability has been added to the unit as well as set up in the command card? |
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| 21:50.19 | RedWraith | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 21:50.28 | purl | tehwildcard <~Jer@pool-96-252-135-143.tampfl.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 10h 3m 3s ago, saying: 'I wouldn't know how to fix it, Matta'. |
| 21:50.53 | ReckeD | jorgen, yep |
| 21:51.05 | jorgenpt | ReckeD: On the unit, you need the Ability in the Ability - Abilities +, then under Ability - Command Card + you need to add a new command card item, type Ability Command, requirements (none), ability <your ability>, ability command <whatever button you chose for the Execute on your Ability> |
| 21:53.01 | ReckeD | do the buttons on the cmd card have to match the execute button in the ability? |
| 21:53.54 | Vulfe | Not if you have other commands :P |
| 21:54.23 | jorgenpt | ReckeD: I don't think so - I'm a bit confused as to why button has to be set so many places |
| 21:54.31 | ReckeD | sorry, i mean does the button you use on the command card have to be the same button that the ability has listed in its commands? |
| 21:54.44 | ReckeD | righto |
| 21:55.09 | jorgenpt | I use the same, but I'm not sure if it matters. |
| 21:55.22 | jorgenpt | Easier to keep them all the same so I always get expected results ^_^ |
| 21:55.57 | jorgenpt | ReckeD: Well, ways to debug: 1) change the Ability on the Command Card to point to an existing ability. If it works, then it's not your unit setup. |
| 21:56.08 | ReckeD | gotcha |
| 21:56.16 | jorgenpt | ReckeD: 2) change the Effect on your Ability to an existing targeted effect. If it works, then it's not your Ability setup. |
| 21:57.08 | jorgenpt | ReckeD: Also, make sure your Ability is of type Effect - Targeted |
| 21:58.06 | Vulfe | CTF map so far: http://i54.tinypic.com/2gwt2qr.jpg |
| 21:58.07 | Vulfe | thoughts? |
| 21:58.20 | jorgenpt | Vulfe: Neat! |
| 21:58.28 | Vulfe | thanks |
| 21:59.22 | Vulfe | I'm not sure what to do with the space in between bases on the sides |
| 21:59.34 | ReckeD | i dont think its unit setup, because the unit has another ability, but this ones an ability - instant. So is it safe to assume its not the unit setup if ability - instant works? |
| 22:01.44 | Aphasion | guys i need some halp |
| 22:01.54 | ReckeD | ah its the effect thats causing issues |
| 22:02.23 | jorgenpt | ReckeD: :-) |
| 22:02.58 | ReckeD | thanks for help debugging jorgen |
| 22:03.08 | ReckeD | i figured it was the ability because it didnt even get to the target stage |
| 22:04.16 | ReckeD | next question is wtf is wrong with my remove behavior effect =/ |
| 22:04.29 | ReckeD | there arent many fields in a remove behavior so how do you get them wrong =P |
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| 22:06.32 | Resinate | ROFL |
| 22:06.39 | Resinate | they made doodad hunt soo dam ez now |
| 22:06.44 | Resinate | i just wont every game i tried |
| 22:11.14 | jorgenpt | Hmm |
| 22:11.25 | jorgenpt | I wish there was more access to the Data Editor stuff in the triggers. |
| 22:11.33 | jorgenpt | Like I want to evaluate Requirements in a trigger. |
| 22:11.54 | ReckeD | i wish theyd add behavior events |
| 22:12.12 | ReckeD | but no, you need to use an ability to trigger on the behavior which triggers your event |
| 22:12.21 | Vulfe | an effect |
| 22:12.23 | Vulfe | but yeah |
| 22:12.28 | Vulfe | or you could do it through actors |
| 22:12.32 | Vulfe | if you're sufficiently cool |
| 22:12.42 | ReckeD | thats the problem im having right now, trying to make an ability which activates when a unit has a certain behavior, and then removes it, firing the trigger in the process |
| 22:12.55 | ReckeD | you can call actors in trigger events? |
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| 22:16.21 | Eiviyn | The AI now works on all 5 bases, in a logical order |
| 22:16.36 | Eiviyn | And there's landing towers you can destroy in the enemy base to stop the base dropship spawns |
| 22:16.44 | Eiviyn | Quite happy with that, much more progressive |
| 22:16.58 | Eiviyn | Won't be able to enter the base without controlling a close outpost |
| 22:17.33 | Blacksoldier | vulfe-whats the sense of the bottom ur terrain? |
| 22:18.22 | ReckeD | wtf is wrong with this effect http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2848/34904163.jpg |
| 22:18.49 | Eiviyn | What's a remove buff behaviour |
| 22:19.01 | Eiviyn | That isn't how you remove behaviours |
| 22:19.25 | ReckeD | zzz |
| 22:19.36 | ReckeD | what effect do i call to remove a behavior? |
| 22:19.47 | ReckeD | thats fucking counter-intuitive |
| 22:19.49 | Eiviyn | The buff behaviour has a field called |
| 22:19.54 | ZarafFaraz | Is there a way to message a person on Bnet if they are not on your friend list but you know their name (but not their number)? |
| 22:20.06 | Eiviyn | Behaviour - validators remove |
| 22:20.13 | Eiviyn | You put a validator there |
| 22:20.21 | Eiviyn | So you'll probably need a custom validator |
| 22:20.38 | ReckeD | then i have to create a validator which does what? fires when a unit is hit by a certain ability? |
| 22:22.23 | Blacksoldier | i have to create a frost tower... i first wanted to remodel a marauder... but thats strange... a unit as tower... |
| 22:22.35 | Blacksoldier | is there any units which fits better? i have no idea |
| 22:22.42 | ReckeD | use a siege tank |
| 22:22.46 | ReckeD | or a missile turret |
| 22:22.56 | Blacksoldier | missle turret is my arrow tower already |
| 22:23.04 | Blacksoldier | shooting with hydralics things |
| 22:23.16 | Blacksoldier | siegetank is cool... |
| 22:23.29 | Blacksoldier | to u have an idea of a cool slow effect? |
| 22:23.36 | Blacksoldier | for the shoot |
| 22:24.19 | Blacksoldier | can i tint the atack of the firebat? |
| 22:24.38 | jorgenpt | Hmm |
| 22:24.44 | Vulfe | Lol |
| 22:24.50 | Vulfe | I submitted to the terrain contest |
| 22:24.51 | Vulfe | XD |
| 22:24.59 | Vulfe | I guess the weekly exercise |
| 22:25.00 | Blacksoldier | congratz |
| 22:25.02 | Vulfe | is what it's called |
| 22:25.26 | Blacksoldier | can u meet me halfway? right at the borderside |
| 22:25.29 | Blacksoldier | *sing* |
| 22:25.39 | jorgenpt | Can someone test this for me: Go to Data Editor, go to Upgrades, click /any/ Upgrade, doubleclick Upgrade - Effects, right click - Add Effect, and set it to Target Find. |
| 22:25.46 | jorgenpt | It consistently crashes the editor for me. |
| 22:25.48 | jorgenpt | Every time. :-p |
| 22:25.54 | Blacksoldier | dont worry |
| 22:26.07 | Blacksoldier | when i click on a armorupgrade its already crashing here |
| 22:26.18 | Blacksoldier | ur probably better when it crashes that late |
| 22:26.35 | jorgenpt | :-p |
| 22:28.06 | Blacksoldier | could do a bunker shooting like a firebat but tinted with the effect of a maraudeur oO |
| 22:28.17 | ReckeD | Eiviyn, is there really no better way to remove a behavior? |
| 22:28.25 | Eiviyn | Triggers |
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| 22:30.04 | RodOfNOD | jorgenpt many upgrade things crash the editor |
| 22:30.11 | jorgenpt | Yay. \o/ |
| 22:30.51 | vail | remove behavior effect works fine for me i believe |
| 22:31.07 | jorgenpt | What's the right way to force a race on players? Player Properties or Game Variants? |
| 22:31.19 | Xaragoth | sc2 dmg system was like ... dmg done - armor of unit, right? |
| 22:31.58 | ReckeD | vail whats your method? |
| 22:32.09 | ReckeD | varients jorgen |
| 22:32.15 | vail | let me check real fast |
| 22:32.32 | ReckeD | yes xara |
| 22:32.39 | ReckeD | armor reduces dmg by static value |
| 22:32.42 | ReckeD | not % |
| 22:32.47 | Xaragoth | i love simple systems |
| 22:32.54 | Xaragoth | wc3 was such a fuckup with % |
| 22:32.55 | ReckeD | i love fractions =P |
| 22:33.08 | RodOfNOD | fractions are fun! |
| 22:33.15 | RodOfNOD | you have a 50% chance of dying |
| 22:33.45 | Vulfe | lol |
| 22:33.52 | Vulfe | I have a 100% chance of dying |
| 22:33.53 | Vulfe | actually |
| 22:33.58 | Vulfe | but thanks for the encouragement |
| 22:34.46 | Xaragoth | I have a 0% chance due to the fact that I intend to become a evil overlord and obtain immortality |
| 22:36.12 | vail | ReckeD: i think the error is with your target marker + field values |
| 22:37.17 | vail | i just use the Remove behavoir effect .. with that set to default and it works fine |
| 22:37.37 | RodOfNOD | GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!! |
| 22:37.51 | RodOfNOD | I almost feel sorry for the 49ers... almost |
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| 22:39.15 | IskatuMesk | boats |
| 22:39.35 | RodOfNOD | yes? |
| 22:41.30 | ReckeD | hmmm, cheers vail |
| 22:41.45 | vail | i hope you get things sorted out |
| 22:41.47 | ReckeD | im going to try a different way, this shits been going on for 2 hours now =( |
| 22:42.54 | RodOfNOD | vat about boats???? |
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| 22:43.15 | Aphasion | I'm kind of a rookie with the editor...and i need some help =( I just have a few simple questions and would be willing to talk on vent if anyone is bored >.> |
| 22:43.28 | RodOfNOD | well u can ask here |
| 22:43.34 | RodOfNOD | or go to vent and ask me there :> |
| 22:43.46 | Aphasion | what is the info? or is it on the site |
| 22:43.52 | RodOfNOD | on the site |
| 22:43.55 | SuraklinSC2 | Aphasion looking for a cyber date? ^^ |
| 22:44.02 | ReckeD | sounds like it lol |
| 22:44.02 | Aphasion | not really o.o |
| 22:44.14 | ReckeD | will trade map skillz for cyberz. PST! |
| 22:44.19 | Aphasion | amg |
| 22:44.20 | ReckeD | =P |
| 22:44.23 | RodOfNOD | well im not unless hes a she :> |
| 22:44.39 | Aphasion | im not a she -.- |
| 22:44.42 | SuraklinSC2 | Nothing a little makeup and a dress couldn't fix. ;) |
| 22:44.52 | Aphasion | hrmm |
| 22:44.57 | RodOfNOD | ur opin SuraklinSC2 personally i like the real deal |
| 22:45.07 | SuraklinSC2 | It's the internets! |
| 22:45.14 | SuraklinSC2 | Where "Girl" means guy in real life. ;) |
| 22:45.16 | RodOfNOD | i prefer the realdeal |
| 22:45.19 | RodOfNOD | not true |
| 22:45.25 | Aphasion | I just want to make a unit tester map for two people |
| 22:45.32 | RodOfNOD | i met a gf that i ended up dating for 5 years playing command and conquer |
| 22:45.37 | Aphasion | so that each person can make stuff and you can both go to the middle and have at it i guess |
| 22:45.45 | RodOfNOD | been done but ok Aphasion |
| 22:45.52 | SuraklinSC2 | Yes yes, we've all met real women online. |
| 22:45.55 | Aphasion | i cant find one D= |
| 22:46.02 | RodOfNOD | ill get u a link |
| 22:46.07 | RodOfNOD | im serious SuraklinSC2 |
| 22:46.24 | SuraklinSC2 | So was I. :P |
| 22:46.40 | Aphasion | Oh, because i sent a pm to molsterr and he said he didnt think that there was one yet |
| 22:47.04 | SuraklinSC2 | I'm pretty sure I saw a "unit testing" map already. |
| 22:47.08 | RodOfNOD | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/unit-tester/ |
| 22:47.11 | SuraklinSC2 | In the top maps on US servers. |
| 22:47.12 | SuraklinSC2 | hmm. |
| 22:47.49 | Aphasion | I saw taht one on the site yesterday, but thats not what I am referring to |
| 22:48.16 | RodOfNOD | what are u referring to |
| 22:48.29 | Aphasion | the unit testing maps i have seen are just where one person controls both players 1 and 2. I simply want someone else to be able to control the second player |
| 22:49.11 | RodOfNOD | i dont think that is true onthat map |
| 22:49.32 | RodOfNOD | however turning his map if it doesnt do that into a 2 player would be cake |
| 22:50.40 | Aphasion | I believe it, but I am not competent with the editor lol |
| 22:50.41 | Eiviyn | Oh Otixa, did the "Most damage done" and "most damage taken" thingies work on the score screen? |
| 22:51.02 | RodOfNOD | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/mock-battle-unit-tester/ - what about this Aphasion |
| 22:52.13 | pinzu | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/11327-minesweepers/ |
| 22:52.17 | pinzu | I uploaded the map |
| 22:52.21 | pinzu | but... |
| 22:52.26 | pinzu | I think that bug is still around |
| 22:52.43 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 22:52.50 | Otixa | Eiviyn, not sure. Didn't look |
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| 22:55.13 | Rodrigo | Nice: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/player-zone/map-review/11349-crc-debates |
| 22:55.16 | Rodrigo | I just read :P |
| 22:55.44 | Aphasion | RodOfNOD, thanks a lot, I think this is exactly what I was looking for actually =p better than staring blankly at my editor screen. |
| 22:56.00 | Rodrigo | im gonna eat. see ya |
| 22:56.22 | RodOfNOD | k Aphasion |
| 22:57.10 | Chileverde | Debates is pretty good |
| 22:57.19 | Chileverde | compared to the bubonic plague |
| 22:57.23 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 22:57.36 | Chileverde | kidding |
| 22:58.03 | RodOfNOD | lol |
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| 23:03.20 | pinzu | I would appreciate it alot if someone could look into this error: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/11327-minesweepers/ and then post there |
| 23:03.25 | pinzu | :] |
| 23:03.33 | ZarafFaraz | lol found an exploit in Roundabout Wars |
| 23:04.14 | ZarafFaraz | is the guy who made Roundabout Wars on sc2mapster? |
| 23:09.12 | Aphasion | rodofnod you deceived me! |
| 23:09.15 | Aphasion | jk but srsly |
| 23:09.18 | Blacksoldier | ok first time i do this - changing the attack look - i gave the bunker the marauder weapon and now i want to give this weapon the look of a firebat attack - can someone guide me or gimme a tut? i don find anything .-/ |
| 23:09.30 | Aphasion | that unit tester is really nice, but its still only one player |
| 23:10.40 | RodOfNOD | :> |
| 23:10.47 | RodOfNOD | so dl it and turn it into a 2 player |
| 23:10.58 | Aphasion | is that OK....i dont wanna steal someones shtuff |
| 23:11.02 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:11.09 | Aphasion | -.- |
| 23:11.11 | RodOfNOD | well if the map is on sc2 mpaster then u can dl it |
| 23:11.16 | RodOfNOD | as to stealing it just dont release it |
| 23:11.18 | ReckeD | how do you call the morph upgrade unit type in a trigger? |
| 23:11.23 | RodOfNOD | if ur goal is to release it then ask the map maker |
| 23:11.29 | RodOfNOD | im sure he could do it quicker anyways |
| 23:11.35 | Aphasion | lawl true >.> |
| 23:11.44 | Aphasion | when you say release does that =publish or wut |
| 23:11.45 | Aphasion | idk |
| 23:11.58 | RodOfNOD | public publish |
| 23:12.03 | RodOfNOD | would be releasing it |
| 23:12.20 | RodOfNOD | if u just want u and ur friend to play that would be ok private publish |
| 23:13.09 | Aphasion | ah ok, so how would i go about giving control of team 2 to a separate person |
| 23:13.26 | rrowland | i am bored |
| 23:13.31 | rrowland | s/i/this/ |
| 23:13.40 | rrowland | s/am/is/ |
| 23:13.46 | Blacksoldier | rrowland u could help me in this case ^^ |
| 23:13.56 | rrowland | s/bored/awesome/ |
| 23:14.13 | rrowland | what are you trying to do |
| 23:14.18 | Blacksoldier | s/fk/u |
| 23:14.26 | Blacksoldier | ok first time i do this - changing the attack look - i gave the bunker the marauder weapon and now i want to give this weapon the look of a firebat attack - can someone guide me or gimme a tut? i don find anything .-/ |
| 23:14.55 | Aphasion | ah i think i found it |
| 23:14.57 | rrowland | copy the firebat's attack actor and change its events to your weapon |
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| 23:17.05 | Eiviyn | Oh jesus christ |
| 23:17.08 | Eiviyn | Just had the scare of my life |
| 23:17.12 | rrowland | yes? |
| 23:17.19 | Eiviyn | Thought I submitted my contest entry to the US site |
| 23:18.31 | Aphasion | sounds scary o.o |
| 23:18.48 | rrowland | why would that be scary |
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| 23:22.20 | ReckeD | how do you call the morph upgrade unit type in a trigger? |
| 23:22.44 | Cameroni101 | im having trouble with units showing up in my space battle |
| 23:23.09 | Cameroni101 | they do what i want but thery're not visible |
| 23:23.15 | ReckeD | with ability - morph spire > greater spire, is the triggering ability target value the greater spire? |
| 23:23.35 | ReckeD | cameroni, did you copy the actors across correctly? |
| 23:23.40 | Cameroni101 | um I dont think so |
| 23:23.51 | Cameroni101 | srry responding to you |
| 23:23.58 | Cameroni101 | yes yes i did |
| 23:24.05 | Otixa | Look ma! I'm doing level design! |
| 23:24.09 | Otixa | headdesks |
| 23:24.39 | Cameroni101 | they are showing in the editor and everything |
| 23:26.29 | Cameroni101 | there are alot of people in IRC |
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| 23:26.55 | Eiviyn | I hate how the editor just refuses to load some models sometimes |
| 23:27.06 | Eiviyn | Even if you close/re-open your map |
| 23:27.30 | ReckeD | <ReckeD> how do you call the morph upgrade unit type in a trigger? |
| 23:27.33 | Eiviyn | I have this "bug" where all my terrain objects turn black randomly |
| 23:27.36 | Otixa | Eiviyn, load textures first |
| 23:27.51 | Eiviyn | It only occurs in the editor |
| 23:28.28 | Cameroni101 | it under the spire itself i beleive |
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| 23:29.01 | Cameroni101 | still no luck with the models showing up |
| 23:31.22 | Cameroni101 | can any one please help? |
| 23:33.43 | pinzu | a |
| 23:34.01 | Cameroni101 | a doesnt mean anything |
| 23:34.09 | rrowland | b |
| 23:34.30 | pinzu | incorrect |
| 23:34.39 | Blacksoldier | hmm |
| 23:34.47 | pinzu | a means alot |
| 23:34.56 | Blacksoldier | my unit shoots with white round things now |
| 23:35.05 | Blacksoldier | looks like snowballs |
| 23:35.07 | Blacksoldier | xD |
| 23:35.14 | Blacksoldier | but thats not what i wanted |
| 23:35.44 | Blacksoldier | what did i do wrong |
| 23:35.48 | Blacksoldier | :-/ |
| 23:35.49 | Eiviyn | Projectile model actor |
| 23:36.19 | Blacksoldier | so - i want it to be kinda beam(marauder->birebat) |
| 23:36.24 | Blacksoldier | *fire |
| 23:36.34 | Eiviyn | Well if your unit is shooting anything at all when you're trying to make a beam |
| 23:36.34 | Otixa | The editor just crashed ¬_¬ |
| 23:36.38 | Eiviyn | You've done something wrong |
| 23:36.39 | pinzu | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/11327-minesweepers/#p2 |
| 23:36.54 | Otixa | No |
| 23:36.55 | pinzu | could someone look into that? |
| 23:36.58 | Blacksoldier | can i shoot a beam? |
| 23:37.10 | Eiviyn | Beams aren't projectiles |
| 23:37.12 | Otixa | stabs Eiviyn |
| 23:37.13 | Blacksoldier | cuz it only shoot every 2 sec |
| 23:37.18 | Eiviyn | Your unit is firing a projectile |
| 23:37.27 | Eiviyn | Just go to your weapon |
| 23:37.37 | Eiviyn | And change both effect and damage display to your damage effect |
| 23:37.42 | Eiviyn | Delete your weapon projectile |
| 23:37.48 | Blacksoldier | im in - dont shoot ow pls... |
| 23:38.02 | Otixa | lashes out in rage and bans everyone on the forums |
| 23:38.07 | Eiviyn | Make an attack actor, set it up properly (there's tutorials on this) and set the model to the beam of your choice |
| 23:38.18 | Eiviyn | Avoid continuous beams unless you know what you're doing |
| 23:38.28 | Eiviyn | Simple beams like interceptor attack or diamondback shooter thing |
| 23:39.07 | Eiviyn | I've had to write the tooltips for my drones 3 times total |
| 23:39.10 | Eiviyn | Because they keep resetting |
| 23:39.15 | Blacksoldier | thx |
| 23:39.53 | Cameroni101 | k im gonna upload this to sc2mapster and see if one of you can get it to work |
| 23:40.27 | Cameroni101 | any one willing? |
| 23:41.12 | Blacksoldier | this tut has no images |
| 23:41.13 | Blacksoldier | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/1800-data-add-effect-to-your-units-attack/ |
| 23:41.15 | Blacksoldier | :-/ |
| 23:41.15 | Cameroni101 | im gonna take that as a no |
| 23:48.50 | rrowland | $20 I'll fix your problem |
| 23:49.12 | onetwo | $18 ill fix it |
| 23:49.17 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:49.25 | onetwo | bidding |
| 23:49.38 | Cameroni101 | okay then how bout some one for free |
| 23:49.40 | rrowland | $20 I'll kill onetwo then fix your problem |
| 23:49.49 | Blacksoldier | k got my attack - its not a beam but it does what it shall yet |
| 23:49.56 | Blacksoldier | expeept one thing |
| 23:50.03 | Blacksoldier | the enemy is in the east |
| 23:50.06 | Cameroni101 | but onetwo is awesome |
| 23:50.12 | Blacksoldier | and my unit shoots to the south |
| 23:50.17 | Blacksoldier | nooks a bit weird |
| 23:50.24 | Blacksoldier | and the attack isnt tinted |
| 23:50.55 | onetwo | i am canadian |
| 23:50.56 | onetwo | TM |
| 23:51.54 | ZarafFaraz | me too |
| 23:52.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210) |
| 23:53.49 | onetwo | hi |
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| 23:55.07 | Vulfe | Rawr! |
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| 23:56.21 | KineMorto | anyone know if it is possible to pause particle effects? |
