| 00:00.03 | IskatuMesk | in homeworld 2, to mod a weapon, you edit a text file that is just a string of numbers. You have to count across and use a website to find what each value actually is |
| 00:00.18 | Blacksoldier | oO |
| 00:00.43 | IskatuMesk | FX files... well, virtually no one in all the game's lifespan has done much with those, which means that there is almost no custom effects |
| 00:00.49 | IskatuMesk | the AI is a total mess |
| 00:01.00 | IskatuMesk | and hardpoint editing.... oh my god. |
| 00:01.05 | Demo | Hmm is there a way to set a variable with an array without using the "Set Variable" trigger? |
| 00:01.54 | IskatuMesk | SC2's editor is difficult because understanding the concepts is a lot to take in, and a requirement for doing new units |
| 00:02.13 | IskatuMesk | as a result of this though it is the most powerful RTS engine I've yet to see |
| 00:02.25 | IskatuMesk | it could be laid out better |
| 00:02.34 | IskatuMesk | but not much can be done to stem the learning curve |
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| 00:02.52 | IskatuMesk | what bothers me the most is the ridiculous load times between tabs and such |
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| 00:04.11 | Technomancer | ok so I solved all my beam problems, save 1... |
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| 00:05.31 | Technomancer | When I fire a beam at a target, and then either the target is destroyed or I move, or etc. to end the attack, the beam remains, and when I attack something else, a new beam is created. while it starts to look very cool when you've got a web of disruptors created, im curious why it does that and how do I make it end? I checked and the stop/destroy clauses in the events appear proper |
| 00:06.40 | IskatuMesk | I had that problem with my Crusader-class when I just started messing with beams |
| 00:06.46 | Blacksoldier | speed up projectile? dont know |
| 00:07.08 | IskatuMesk | I can't recall the exact mechanics behind it but iirc the beam graphic was checking for the wrong effect to end in its events |
| 00:07.37 | IskatuMesk | since duplicate didn't change those references, it was referring to an old effect from another weapon |
| 00:07.57 | IskatuMesk | dunno if it's the same thing but worth a look I guess |
| 00:08.37 | Technomancer | um |
| 00:08.39 | Technomancer | so... |
| 00:08.46 | Technomancer | *whoosh* |
| 00:08.49 | Technomancer | over my head :P |
| 00:08.52 | IskatuMesk | lol |
| 00:08.56 | Technomancer | are you saying its referencing another weapon? |
| 00:09.00 | IskatuMesk | now you know how I feel bro |
| 00:09.17 | IskatuMesk | the actor for the beam graphic, in its events, checks for an effect to start an end |
| 00:09.21 | IskatuMesk | the damage one for the weapon I believe |
| 00:09.45 | IskatuMesk | when I duplicated and made a new beam, it was still looking for the old damage effect from the previous beam, and not my new one |
| 00:10.12 | IskatuMesk | confused the hell out of me for hours |
| 00:10.15 | Technomancer | okay... I think I get it |
| 00:10.27 | IskatuMesk | I don't even get it haha |
| 00:10.28 | SycoPrime | What's the simplest way to have an ability (that currently has an effeect type "target") remove a behavior in addition to doing what it's already doing? |
| 00:10.28 | Technomancer | however im not sure exactly which event to look for or what to change :S |
| 00:10.44 | IskatuMesk | the editor corrupted that map so I can't even look at it :\ |
| 00:11.07 | IskatuMesk | I ended up with this, but everywhere http://a.imageshack.us/img237/3521/screenshot2010082616342.jpg |
| 00:11.36 | Technomancer | IskatuMesk: I think it might be in the createpersistant |
| 00:11.44 | Technomancer | I see a dif one than the one im currently using |
| 00:12.15 | Technomancer | what beam is that?!? XD |
| 00:12.29 | IskatuMesk | I also remember the names being confusing as hell because they referred to id's and not the actual names |
| 00:12.31 | Technomancer | I see some people make some REALLY kick-ass mods to beams, and I dont know how they do it |
| 00:12.35 | IskatuMesk | hybrid channeling beam |
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| 00:12.41 | IskatuMesk | but with a tint/HDR modifier |
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| 00:13.17 | IskatuMesk | search for "beam" when looking for m3's and it'll show up somewhere in there |
| 00:13.22 | IskatuMesk | it'll be blue |
| 00:13.38 | Blacksoldier | hmm i saw c_unitCostMinerals is a constnt.... now i still dont know how to set it by trigger for a unit |
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| 00:14.45 | IskatuMesk | Eiviyn > Do you know the exact functions of ref_target and ref_damage? |
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| 00:15.30 | Eiviyn | The wha |
| 00:15.43 | Eiviyn | What tab |
| 00:16.08 | Technomancer | IskatuMesk I solved it. to confirm, the problem was in the Create Persistant reference to the destroy clause |
| 00:17.12 | Technomancer | The hybrid beam, do u mean the archon one? |
| 00:17.19 | IskatuMesk | they are hardpoints |
| 00:17.34 | IskatuMesk | it's the effect used in the campaign |
| 00:17.49 | IskatuMesk | ref_target and ref_damage are used on the model, but I'm not sure how |
| 00:17.57 | Zanam | zaraffaraz or rooj, are either of you around for testing |
| 00:18.14 | IskatuMesk | I know one, probabl target, is used for telling the game where projectiles impact graphically. But I'm also curious if either of them can be used to tell where weapons look for range calculations |
| 00:18.27 | Technomancer | IskatuMesk: You do know that you can give the carrier a weapon right? in the UI, doesnt the battlecruiser graphics look out of place with the model? :P |
| 00:18.27 | IskatuMesk | so, for example, short-ranged units aren't trying to target the center of my enormous dragon |
| 00:18.45 | IskatuMesk | eh? |
| 00:18.49 | IskatuMesk | that's a custom model |
| 00:18.53 | IskatuMesk | didn't have a wireframe for it |
| 00:18.53 | Technomancer | in the pic u linked |
| 00:18.59 | Technomancer | well its a carrier :S |
| 00:19.12 | IskatuMesk | nah the little guys it's shooting at are carriers |
| 00:19.22 | IskatuMesk | the big black thing at the top is the crusader |
| 00:19.22 | Technomancer | OH!!! |
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| 00:19.27 | Technomancer | I see |
| 00:19.34 | IskatuMesk | http://a.imageshack.us/img245/8426/screenshot2010082608524.jpg |
| 00:24.59 | Eiviyn | That name is wierd |
| 00:25.08 | Eiviyn | Surely Gahennas is the class |
| 00:25.15 | Eiviyn | And crusader is the ship hull |
| 00:25.23 | Eiviyn | Which is odd in itself |
| 00:25.40 | Eiviyn | Shouldn't it be Gahennas-Class Cruiser or something |
| 00:27.28 | LordAbyss | how do i disable the requirement for an upgrade? |
| 00:27.31 | LordAbyss | for an ability |
| 00:28.19 | Eiviyn | Open the upgrade |
| 00:28.23 | Eiviyn | Go to requirements |
| 00:28.25 | Eiviyn | Set it to (none) |
| 00:29.12 | IskatuMesk | Gahennas is the race |
| 00:29.18 | IskatuMesk | stuff is named in the style of bw |
| 00:30.05 | Phaos | what is the codez so that I can put information in a qoute if it is in the Textile format ? |
| 00:30.27 | LordAbyss | i don't see it eiviyn |
| 00:32.11 | Syniq | bitches about morons who have no idea about strategy screwing up his league standing. |
| 00:32.12 | Phaos | anyone? |
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| 00:36.45 | SinisteRing | Let's say I just played Spiral TD on Battle.Net, where would the map be saved to on my hard drive (Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit). It's not in appdata/local/blizzard entertainment, since I don't even have a Blizzard Entertainment folder there. |
| 00:37.27 | Triceron | the textures look really dark on there |
| 00:37.52 | Triceron | is it supposed to be black? |
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| 00:39.38 | Triceron | Ahoy Ulti |
| 00:40.28 | UltiDrgn | Ohai |
| 00:41.54 | IskatuMesk | ULTIDRGN |
| 00:41.57 | IskatuMesk | just who I need |
| 00:42.02 | UltiDrgn | what |
| 00:42.08 | IskatuMesk | do you know the exact functions of ref_damage and ref_target? |
| 00:42.33 | UltiDrgn | target is where weapons focus when there's no shield |
| 00:42.41 | UltiDrgn | damage is something similar but I can't recall |
| 00:42.45 | IskatuMesk | hmm |
| 00:42.47 | IskatuMesk | ok |
| 00:42.54 | IskatuMesk | do units use range calculations based on those |
| 00:42.56 | IskatuMesk | or on the origin/center |
| 00:43.01 | UltiDrgn | center |
| 00:43.04 | IskatuMesk | damnit |
| 00:43.07 | IskatuMesk | I was afraid of that |
| 00:43.23 | IskatuMesk | now dudes will have to have enormous ranges |
| 00:44.10 | UltiDrgn | As far as I know, you can tell the calc to use a diff hardpoint |
| 00:44.14 | UltiDrgn | its in the weapon data |
| 00:44.22 | IskatuMesk | oh? |
| 00:44.23 | IskatuMesk | good |
| 00:44.27 | IskatuMesk | thank god |
| 00:44.36 | IskatuMesk | you see, there's going to be some very big units... |
| 00:44.47 | UltiDrgn | ...Stop making giant dildos |
| 00:44.50 | UltiDrgn | Problem solved |
| 00:44.50 | IskatuMesk | the idea is that attackers use the ref_target to say oh I'm in 12 range oh so and so |
| 00:44.58 | IskatuMesk | and not try to go inside the unit to shoot at the center |
| 00:45.02 | IskatuMesk | lol |
| 00:45.07 | UltiDrgn | they shouldn't be able to |
| 00:45.09 | IskatuMesk | well this one is a giant dragon |
| 00:45.34 | Eiviyn | Do I really need to use custom code to be able to get a player's name... |
| 00:45.35 | UltiDrgn | Just place your target correctly |
| 00:45.42 | Eiviyn | I want to save a player's name to a string. Is this really impossible? |
| 00:45.43 | UltiDrgn | Target is where weapons focus |
| 00:45.51 | IskatuMesk | well I mean |
| 00:45.54 | UltiDrgn | but the attacker is going to use the distance from his own center |
| 00:46.06 | IskatuMesk | if a unit is large enough that to reach the ref_center ther attacker has to go inside the unit |
| 00:46.10 | IskatuMesk | then we got a problem |
| 00:46.18 | Eiviyn | Attack range is from unit origin to origin afaik |
| 00:46.19 | ZarafFaraz | why would saving a player's name to a string be problematic? |
| 00:46.37 | ZarafFaraz | StringVar = Name of Player(Player Number) |
| 00:46.38 | UltiDrgn | Look @ the mothership and imagine it being attacked by vikings for example |
| 00:46.39 | Eiviyn | Attack ref are just graphical weapon impact locations as far as I know |
| 00:46.56 | Eiviyn | There's no GUI trigger for that, ZarafFaraz |
| 00:46.58 | UltiDrgn | ^ Is true if you use pure defaults |
| 00:47.13 | ZarafFaraz | sure there is |
| 00:47.42 | Eiviyn | There really isn't |
| 00:47.48 | Eiviyn | Player name can only be referenced from text |
| 00:47.50 | ZarafFaraz | did you check under Text? |
| 00:47.52 | ZarafFaraz | so? |
| 00:47.55 | Eiviyn | The editor seperates string and text |
| 00:47.56 | ZarafFaraz | convert Text to String |
| 00:48.00 | Eiviyn | And you can't convert one to the other |
| 00:48.03 | Eiviyn | Therein lies the problem |
| 00:48.52 | ZarafFaraz | hmm |
| 00:49.04 | ZarafFaraz | so why is it that you can't use Text? |
| 00:49.35 | Eiviyn | You can fetch a player's name |
| 00:49.38 | Eiviyn | But only in Text form |
| 00:49.46 | Eiviyn | You can use strings to save etc |
| 00:49.52 | Eiviyn | But you can't convert text to string |
| 00:49.55 | Eiviyn | So to say |
| 00:49.58 | ZarafFaraz | well maybe you can assign the name to something, and then fetch that value via string |
| 00:50.09 | ZarafFaraz | like for example, something in Catalog |
| 00:50.10 | Eiviyn | Give the player a save code that's specific to his username, is impossible from what I can tell |
| 00:50.18 | Eiviyn | Well what I want to do is this |
| 00:50.32 | Eiviyn | I want a player's username and the variable I want to save to be encypted together |
| 00:50.32 | ZarafFaraz | save codes can't use text? |
| 00:50.41 | Eiviyn | So that like, if I have a level 12 orc or whatever |
| 00:50.47 | Eiviyn | That I can't give my friend my bank file |
| 00:50.53 | ZarafFaraz | wait Eiviyn |
| 00:50.54 | IskatuMesk | Named Mankrik? |
| 00:50.54 | Eiviyn | And he suddenly also has a level 12 orc |
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| 00:50.58 | Triceron | hey, can someone help me make a nexus wars map? |
| 00:50.59 | ZarafFaraz | why don't you just use Banks instead of save codes? |
| 00:51.04 | Eiviyn | I am using banks |
| 00:51.07 | Eiviyn | But banks save strings |
| 00:51.19 | ZarafFaraz | so then what is the purpose of the save code? |
| 00:51.22 | Eiviyn | Well |
| 00:51.26 | ZarafFaraz | just create a dialog that has like "save games" |
| 00:51.28 | Eiviyn | Right |
| 00:51.30 | Eiviyn | Say I have an rpg |
| 00:51.33 | ZarafFaraz | and just have players click "Load" |
| 00:51.44 | ZarafFaraz | of course, the drawback of this is that they have to be on the same computer |
| 00:51.48 | ZarafFaraz | but that's hardly a huge issue |
| 00:52.00 | Eiviyn | The problem is that the save files could be used by anyone |
| 00:52.11 | ZarafFaraz | anyone playing on that computer |
| 00:52.13 | Eiviyn | I could effectively give my level 12 mankrik orc to anyone |
| 00:52.20 | Eiviyn | No, they're just a few lines of .txt |
| 00:52.23 | ZarafFaraz | you could say the same thing about any RPG |
| 00:52.31 | Eiviyn | Yes, and this is the solution |
| 00:52.32 | ZarafFaraz | "My brother played my game on my PS2" |
| 00:52.43 | Eiviyn | His ps2 game isn't online though |
| 00:52.46 | UltiDrgn | Eiviyn, you can't STOP that from happening |
| 00:52.53 | Eiviyn | You can |
| 00:52.59 | UltiDrgn | even if you encrypt it, someone is going to sit down and figure out HOW you generated it |
| 00:53.01 | Eiviyn | I can encrypt the player name along with the variable |
| 00:53.10 | ZarafFaraz | then someone will just login as that player |
| 00:53.20 | ZarafFaraz | oh noes! how do you stop someone from logging in as their friend! |
| 00:53.30 | IskatuMesk | .50 cal to the head |
| 00:53.33 | ZarafFaraz | Eiviyn, Banks create txt files onto the computer that SC2 is being played on |
| 00:53.38 | Eiviyn | Don't worry about my encryption methods, I just want a solution to getting a player name into a string |
| 00:53.48 | ZarafFaraz | and the next time you load the game, the txt file is found, and the data is retrieved |
| 00:53.53 | IskatuMesk | I would encrypt everything to various combinations of 42 and 69 |
| 00:54.11 | Zanam | ZarafFaraz, you have any time to help me run a couple tests tonight, last night i get to work on my map before submission. |
| 00:54.23 | ZarafFaraz | you can just have a dialog when the game starts that has "Save Games", which is data retrieved from the txt file ON THE COMPUTER |
| 00:54.35 | ZarafFaraz | sure Zanam |
| 00:54.46 | IskatuMesk | what happens if you feed it a txt that is just random gibberish? does sc2 crash? |
| 00:54.46 | ZarafFaraz | so someone on another computer can't access the Bank txt file |
| 00:55.02 | Zanam | currently trying to see if there's a way to make a unit block line of sight but i'm not sure that's possible |
| 00:55.04 | ZarafFaraz | no, the bank file just wouldn't load |
| 00:55.06 | Eiviyn | I'd be using hashing algorithms and cyclic redundancy checks to encrypt, it's as good as secure for anyone that doesn't want to devote a few weeks of processor power to decrypting a code |
| 00:55.07 | IskatuMesk | ah |
| 00:55.10 | IskatuMesk | pity |
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| 00:55.13 | Eiviyn | It's still not my point |
| 00:55.20 | Eiviyn | Point is I want player names as a string |
| 00:55.25 | Eiviyn | And I don't know how |
| 00:55.29 | Eiviyn | Been looking for a while now |
| 00:55.30 | ZarafFaraz | Eiviyn, I know what you're trying to get, I'm just saying I don't see a reason to do it |
| 00:55.34 | ZarafFaraz | but I already showed you a solution |
| 00:55.45 | ZarafFaraz | Assign the player name to a catalog value |
| 00:55.51 | ZarafFaraz | and then retrieve it via string |
| 00:56.01 | Eiviyn | You can only assign strings to catalog values |
| 00:56.07 | ZarafFaraz | ahh shit |
| 00:56.20 | ZarafFaraz | well |
| 00:56.26 | ZarafFaraz | just create "login names" via Bank then |
| 00:56.27 | IskatuMesk | you COULD have the player type in a rhyme/lullaby to use instead, right? |
| 00:56.31 | ZarafFaraz | and you can also assign "passwords" |
| 00:56.37 | ZarafFaraz | so someone creates an account |
| 00:56.39 | Eiviyn | I actually tried that too |
| 00:56.41 | Eiviyn | Like |
| 00:56.44 | Eiviyn | Getting the player to type |
| 00:56.47 | Eiviyn | save eiviyn |
| 00:56.53 | ZarafFaraz | no, I' |
| 00:56.54 | Eiviyn | So I could abuse that by using their entered chat string |
| 00:56.57 | ZarafFaraz | I'm talking about in a dialog |
| 00:57.08 | Eiviyn | But! There's no way to even check that they entered their own name |
| 00:57.23 | ZarafFaraz | you wouldn't need to |
| 00:57.27 | Eiviyn | Wonder if they did this to stop dota banlists |
| 00:57.35 | UltiDrgn | ofc they did |
| 00:57.43 | ZarafFaraz | all you need is to match the login name to the password in the Bank |
| 00:57.49 | UltiDrgn | Otherwise they cant have premium maps |
| 00:57.50 | IskatuMesk | lol dota |
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| 00:58.01 | UltiDrgn | Cant have people paying for maps theyre blacklisted from |
| 00:58.20 | IskatuMesk | but Ulti, there's a cash cow right there waiting to be plundered |
| 00:58.22 | ZarafFaraz | Login: Zaraf pw: game this data would be in the Bank file. If it doesn't match, then it doesn't load the save file. If it does match, then it does load |
| 00:58.25 | IskatuMesk | paying to remove your name from the banlist |
| 00:58.29 | IskatuMesk | people would do it |
| 00:58.59 | ZarafFaraz | the whole marketplace thing is going to ruin the mapping community |
| 00:59.04 | IskatuMesk | it already is |
| 00:59.11 | IskatuMesk | everyone is like |
| 00:59.13 | ZarafFaraz | Zanam, when do you need that test? |
| 00:59.25 | IskatuMesk | I'm gonna make a premium map! ... and forget that it's Blizzard who decides who gets premium |
| 00:59.33 | Zanam | just as soon as I figure out why the 'doodad block LoS' footprint isn't actually blocking LoS :P |
| 00:59.59 | ZarafFaraz | you mean like those noob map-makers who decide to make an "epic RPG" as their first project and go around trying to recruit people to help them for everything? |
| 01:00.04 | IskatuMesk | yep |
| 01:00.32 | IskatuMesk | hey guys I don't know how to do anything so I need 2 trigger guys 2 data editor guys and 2 trigger guys oh and some guys for graphics |
| 01:00.46 | IskatuMesk | I got some cool ideas though!!! |
| 01:00.46 | UltiDrgn | Could be worse |
| 01:00.53 | Phaos | incoming advertising! |
| 01:00.54 | UltiDrgn | you could be one of two in the community who can animate |
| 01:00.54 | Phaos | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/4739-attachment-and-item-kits-project/#p1 |
| 01:00.55 | Phaos | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/4739-attachment-and-item-kits-project/#p1 |
| 01:01.00 | Phaos | Updated! |
| 01:01.03 | Phaos | finally -_- |
| 01:01.06 | IskatuMesk | I've already had a ton of people pester me about graphics actually |
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| 01:01.15 | IskatuMesk | that';s why I'm not posting hardly anything I make :P |
| 01:01.20 | UltiDrgn | Exactly |
| 01:01.24 | IskatuMesk | much less the stuff I port |
| 01:01.27 | UltiDrgn | Being an artist is great |
| 01:01.34 | UltiDrgn | But we get shafted by the community |
| 01:01.37 | IskatuMesk | if I showed the stuff I was porting on the forum right now, I'd get a thousand and one PM's on how to do it |
| 01:01.42 | UltiDrgn | both in credit AND in overwhelming requests |
| 01:01.48 | IskatuMesk | yep... |
| 01:01.50 | KineMorto | Anyone here have an idea of how to best approach creating the visual effects of a life leech aura on attack? |
| 01:01.58 | IskatuMesk | Armageddon Onslaught.... I released that |
| 01:02.09 | IskatuMesk | and so many people took that as a cue to steal my custom made effects |
| 01:02.27 | Blacksoldier | i dont get how to set unitcosts by trigger |
| 01:02.30 | KineMorto | Iskatu I am doing the same |
| 01:02.35 | IskatuMesk | so I stopped releasing projects publicly, period |
| 01:03.23 | IskatuMesk | I got people who will play, I've got the guys I outsource odd jobs to, and I'll invite specific people to play if or when I get something finished |
| 01:03.27 | Zanam | ZarafFaraz, uploading now |
| 01:03.28 | IskatuMesk | and that's that |
| 01:03.40 | IskatuMesk | tired of people stealing my stuff |
| 01:03.44 | Eiviyn | Bank files are fully visible zaraf |
| 01:03.51 | Eiviyn | Though getting the user to log in mid-game could work |
| 01:03.58 | Eiviyn | Then encrypt their login/password |
| 01:04.04 | Eiviyn | But that's a really ackward process |
| 01:04.06 | Eiviyn | As in |
| 01:04.12 | HeyRevolver | Do i set an ability attack actor the same way I set a weapon attack actor? |
| 01:04.12 | Eiviyn | They already logged in once to get into sc2 |
| 01:04.15 | Eiviyn | Why make them do it twice |
| 01:04.32 | ZarafFaraz | Eiviyn, they are only visible if you know where to find them |
| 01:04.38 | Eiviyn | Uh |
| 01:04.48 | ZarafFaraz | besides, you could easily "encrypt" the values in the bank files |
| 01:04.51 | Eiviyn | StarCraft II folder |
| 01:04.54 | Eiviyn | Yes |
| 01:04.54 | ZarafFaraz | so opening them up wouldn't really give you much info |
| 01:05.00 | Eiviyn | I could encrypt the bank folder |
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| 01:05.08 | Eiviyn | But nothing stops people just giving their bank folder to other people |
| 01:05.16 | ZarafFaraz | but what I'm wondering is why you'd going to such lengths anyway? Are you really worried about security THAT much in your map? |
| 01:05.35 | Eiviyn | I want my map to be fun |
| 01:05.41 | Milotical | @Phaos nice work but "MarineHelm - The Hands from a Marine unit. " :P |
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| 01:05.45 | HeyRevolver | then dont use banks lol |
| 01:05.46 | Eiviyn | And part of fun is it not being broken |
| 01:05.59 | Eiviyn | I just want to save simple statistics |
| 01:06.01 | Gimpexe | banks are cool |
| 01:06.06 | Eiviyn | Like total damage done, total damage taken, matches won, matches lost, kills, deaths etc |
| 01:06.08 | ZarafFaraz | so someone giving someone else their character is going to break the game? |
| 01:06.19 | Eiviyn | In my eyes as a mapper, it will |
| 01:06.34 | Eiviyn | Why question my motives anyway, I just want to know how to get player names as a string |
| 01:06.37 | ZarafFaraz | I don't see how that's any different than me letting my friend login to my bnet account and playing |
| 01:07.07 | IskatuMesk | if you can transfer the banks |
| 01:07.13 | Zanam | careful with that Zaraf, i had a buddy come over for some 'LAN' play, he had his account locked for logging in at multiple IP's |
| 01:07.21 | IskatuMesk | what's to stop someone from throwing X onto X website and letting everyone download it |
| 01:07.55 | ZarafFaraz | yeah I know, I'm not doing that...I'm just saying that there is an extent at which you should just stop with "security" |
| 01:08.03 | ZarafFaraz | something like WoW? Yes, they need top notch security |
| 01:08.13 | ZarafFaraz | a custom map for SC2? I think not |
| 01:08.37 | IskatuMesk | I put a fair bit of effort in AO to prevent people from abusing Armageddon's AI |
| 01:08.42 | Milotical | lol Zanam seriously? |
| 01:08.42 | IskatuMesk | which is totally hardcoded in BW |
| 01:08.45 | Zanam | honestly the one thing to really consider Eiviyn is that they are letter people change player names. So if you are going to record this info onto a bank, then call it, then check against the player actually playing who supposedly owns the bank... if that player changes their b.net account name, they will have lost everything and never would have even known |
| 01:08.51 | Maul | anyone else in a frantic last ditch effort to finish their map for the contest? |
| 01:08.52 | Zanam | yup milotical. not even a week after launch |
| 01:08.52 | Milotical | We had quite some sc2 lans and have never been banned or something |
| 01:08.58 | Zanam | they are letting people* |
| 01:09.07 | Eiviyn | I wouldn't really be against that Zanam |
| 01:09.18 | Triceron | Can somene make me a quick nexus wars map so I can submit for the contest? |
| 01:09.44 | Maul | lol triceron |
| 01:09.59 | Zanam | maul, i have been the last couple days... but I've gotten everything pretty much nailed down. I'm comfortable with this submission |
| 01:10.00 | Maul | i was going to ask you if i could use one of your models in my entry |
| 01:10.19 | Eiviyn | Have you guys uploaded your submissions to b.net privately for testing? |
| 01:10.20 | Triceron | what kinda map you making? |
| 01:10.24 | Maul | wish i was your zanam |
| 01:10.30 | Maul | im not allowed to say :P |
| 01:10.34 | UltiDrgn | Redfox and I are testing tonight |
| 01:10.36 | UltiDrgn | hopefully |
| 01:10.45 | Maul | you'll see it on the winners page though |
| 01:10.52 | UltiDrgn | Cut the crap |
| 01:11.03 | UltiDrgn | Maps are due in 27 hours |
| 01:11.06 | UltiDrgn | No one can copy you |
| 01:11.06 | Eiviyn | Submitting my map now anyway, glad it's over |
| 01:11.14 | Zanam | eiviyn, i have, even though there are some issues with the legality, how they are so vague on the details about publishing. In my mind, there's no way in hell they can expect people to develop and never test, if thats the case, all 3 'best' maps will be chock full o' bugs |
| 01:11.18 | Maul | you cant publish them btw |
| 01:11.22 | Milotical | wondering why you guys care that much about the contest |
| 01:11.29 | Milotical | blizz will pick out some pretty easy made maps |
| 01:11.30 | Maul | $5k |
| 01:11.38 | Gimpexe | Zanam, did that really hapen? |
| 01:11.41 | UltiDrgn | Blizzcon |
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| 01:11.50 | Milotical | yeah but the maps that are going to win can be made in two hours |
| 01:11.51 | Milotical | ;) |
| 01:11.58 | Gimpexe | Zanam, i was at a sc2 lan about 2 weeks agoo and didnt get my account banned |
| 01:12.09 | Zanam | gimpexe, about the account ban? yeah, it was taken care of though, he just had to jump through some hoops |
| 01:12.22 | Gimpexe | Milotical, dont think so, there looking for really polished maps |
| 01:12.51 | Zanam | exactly... and how can any map be polished if its never been tested on battle.net |
| 01:12.52 | Gimpexe | Zanam, damn that is lame. |
| 01:13.06 | LordAbyss | nukes crush your fps :( |
| 01:13.08 | Milotical | you really believe in that gimpexe? ;) |
| 01:13.20 | Gimpexe | u can test the map without uploading it using the tool here http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/mapcraft/ |
| 01:13.49 | Milotical | they want games that can be played by random guys at blizzcon to make the game look awesome and easy to play |
| 01:13.50 | Maul | i found the time theyve given us isnt enough to make a really polished map anyway |
| 01:13.54 | Maul | esp since most of us have jobs |
| 01:14.02 | Zanam | that kinda goes along with my point. why would they hold a contest, and force people to use 3rd party software to test |
| 01:14.08 | Zanam | that very few know about |
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| 01:14.36 | Milotical | I'm just looking forward for all the awesome maps being published at the 11th :) |
| 01:14.42 | UltiDrgn | l2privateuploadthendeleteaftertesting |
| 01:14.44 | UltiDrgn | also spacebar |
| 01:14.44 | Zanam | i kept mine extremely simple, but highly polished. something i wouldnt mind stopping to play a game of real quick if I was on the show floor, since there's so much to do I wouldnt want to spend an hour |
| 01:14.46 | Gimpexe | Zanam, they wouldnt, but the people who did know about mapcraft would have a much more competitive advantage over the others |
| 01:15.18 | Phaos | Sixen aboot ? |
| 01:15.19 | Maul | yourconfidence troubles me, zanam |
| 01:15.27 | Maul | but there are 3 winners i guess |
| 01:15.36 | Milotical | haha |
| 01:15.40 | Milotical | Zanam whats your region? |
| 01:15.42 | UltiDrgn | None of you custom animated anything |
| 01:15.43 | Zanam | US |
| 01:15.45 | KineMorto | whats your map? |
| 01:15.50 | Milotical | Maul whats your region? |
| 01:15.54 | Maul | sea |
| 01:16.00 | ekcolnovkol|weep | liar |
| 01:16.10 | Gimpexe | i think blizz anounce the best maps to be ones that can be played competitvly... then blizzard can use those maps in torunaments |
| 01:16.13 | Milotical | did sea get an own region? |
| 01:16.15 | ekcolnovkol|weep | he plays on the HNG server |
| 01:16.17 | Milotical | I mean in the contest |
| 01:16.20 | Zanam | ulidrgn, no... i did however make a custom announcer who comments on the gameplay and introduces, and wrote my own techno beat for the background music |
| 01:16.22 | Gimpexe | Milatical, yes |
| 01:16.30 | Milotical | so |
| 01:16.37 | Milotical | any eu entries in here right now? |
| 01:16.42 | Maul | ekcol is sleep typing i believe |
| 01:17.01 | Gimpexe | Milotical, the SEA server is hosted in Singapoor, it comtains everyone from Australia, new zealand and south east asia |
| 01:17.16 | Milotical | I know about the server |
| 01:17.20 | Gimpexe | Milotical, i still havnt met anyone on there which doesnt speak english tho |
| 01:17.21 | Maul | i dont think we got a seperate contest |
| 01:17.22 | HR_ | new version of SC Rally is goin up |
| 01:17.23 | Milotical | just wasn't sure if they got an own category |
| 01:17.27 | Maul | i think the contest if for everyone |
| 01:17.33 | Milotical | nope |
| 01:17.34 | Gimpexe | ohh the contest |
| 01:17.34 | Milotical | Maul |
| 01:17.35 | HR_ | with spawn immunity and a shrink ray that slows the leader |
| 01:17.42 | Maul | as long as your locale is valid |
| 01:17.45 | Milotical | they pick 1 eu, 1 us |
| 01:17.45 | RedWraith | anyone want to help me test sound? :) |
| 01:17.49 | Gimpexe | i dont think we can enter |
| 01:17.51 | Milotical | and 1 I dont know |
| 01:17.52 | RedWraith | I just uploaded the lost viking soundtrack to my map |
| 01:17.55 | RedWraith | and it's awesome |
| 01:17.58 | Maul | oh really? |
| 01:18.04 | Maul | it says there will be 3 winners |
| 01:18.06 | Gimpexe | RedWraith lol nice =) |
| 01:18.52 | Sixen | yes, phaos? |
| 01:19.01 | Triceron | Redwraith lol |
| 01:19.25 | Maul | just use active players |
| 01:19.27 | Maul | and sound will work |
| 01:19.32 | Phaos | sup |
| 01:19.32 | RedWraith | Hey, hey. |
| 01:19.35 | RedWraith | It's awesome. |
| 01:19.40 | Phaos | approve my latest update to the Item kit project xD |
| 01:19.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster ZarafFaraz (~ZarafFara@d66-222-168-246.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 01:19.58 | Maul | lol |
| 01:20.04 | Triceron | lost viking mod |
| 01:20.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster liq3 (~liquidman@ppp118-209-224-238.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) |
| 01:20.07 | Triceron | lets do it |
| 01:20.09 | Maul | "oi, sixen, get back to work" |
| 01:20.14 | Phaos | srs |
| 01:20.19 | Phaos | cracks whip |
| 01:20.37 | Maul | i want to make a sprite rpg once this contest is done ruining my life |
| 01:21.11 | HR_ | aw they did a reset and now my map is on page 3 ... |
| 01:21.27 | Gimpexe | Maul that would be pro! |
| 01:21.28 | Eiviyn | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/11047-storing-player-names-as-a-string/ - incase anyone knows |
| 01:21.47 | Maul | yeah |
| 01:22.04 | Maul | you pretty much go around running your own spirte store, might sell coke as well |
| 01:22.07 | Triceron | 2d sprite rpg? |
| 01:22.14 | Maul | probably have some copyright issues but who knows |
| 01:22.21 | Triceron | or like, sprites and fairies |
| 01:22.42 | Gimpexe | Maul,if u need some sprites made i can give it a go |
| 01:22.52 | Maul | lol no-one got my joke :( |
| 01:23.06 | Maul | yeah 2d sprites combined with 3d effects |
| 01:23.14 | Maul | that would be great gimpexe |
| 01:23.16 | RedWraith | alright, who wants to play this with me |
| 01:23.19 | RedWraith | Sixen? Phaos? |
| 01:23.24 | RedWraith | Triceron? |
| 01:23.31 | Maul | http://maul.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d10yi8 |
| 01:23.40 | Maul | i had a go at making my 2d art myself years ago |
| 01:23.51 | Triceron | it'm eating atm |
| 01:23.55 | Triceron | greasy hands |
| 01:23.57 | Maul | but never had a way to implement it as my coding wasnt that great |
| 01:24.02 | Technomancer | ok got a really big Q here |
| 01:24.06 | Triceron | i'm tyiping with my... nm |
| 01:24.13 | Maul | galaxy is so wonderful though |
| 01:24.16 | Maul | penis? |
| 01:24.21 | RedWraith | feet |
| 01:24.24 | RedWraith | well, forehead |
| 01:24.33 | Maul | i personally couldnt use my penis to type |
| 01:24.36 | RedWraith | I'm a robot so I don't eat. |
| 01:24.39 | Tehwildcard | I Can't Hear You Over the Sound of How Awesome I Am - Defeat Sinestra in the Bastion of Twilight on Heroic difficulty on the first attempt without letting any raid members die. |
| 01:24.41 | Maul | would hit too many keys simulatenously |
| 01:24.42 | RedWraith | I could, but it'd be tough. |
| 01:24.53 | Eiviyn | This is actually really stupid |
| 01:24.58 | Eiviyn | I could create a dota banlist |
| 01:24.59 | Triceron | i have a giant keyboard |
| 01:25.01 | Phaos | has the NZ+Australia meld with NZ happened yet ? |
| 01:25.02 | Technomancer | if I wanted to do something to the effect of the Carrier Interceptor hanger/queue, how would I create that? I dont wanna just borrow from the Carrier, I wanna do my own, with say, zerglings lol |
| 01:25.03 | Eiviyn | But not store as a string |
| 01:25.07 | RedWraith | Tehwildcard, get in here! |
| 01:25.09 | Phaos | if it has I will play with you redwraith |
| 01:25.12 | Tehwildcard | Your pants? |
| 01:25.15 | Eiviyn | So my only reasoning over why I can't convert text to string is gone |
| 01:25.16 | Triceron | touch screen |
| 01:25.27 | Maul | technomancer |
| 01:25.31 | Maul | i have the answers you seek |
| 01:25.41 | ZarafFaraz | Maul, what did you use to make that ruined building? |
| 01:25.42 | LordAbyss | i sooo wanna edit out the lag :( |
| 01:25.44 | RedWraith | You know where, dammit. |
| 01:25.57 | Maul | you'd need to use the carriers hanger ability, and queue (5) |
| 01:26.12 | Maul | then you should be able to change the unit that gets produced in the hanger to zerglings or whatever |
| 01:26.15 | Maul | and thats pretty much it |
| 01:26.21 | Maul | i used photoshop zaraf |
| 01:26.28 | Maul | but it could be done in paint just as easily |
| 01:26.32 | RedWraith | Tehwildcard, on battle.net |
| 01:26.34 | RedWraith | Wraith.852 |
| 01:26.36 | Maul | im just more familiar with photoshop |
| 01:26.47 | RedWraith | Be there to listen to awesome tunes from old Blizzard games. |
| 01:27.03 | IskatuMesk | There is a small, white dog outside my window. Barking. |
| 01:27.06 | IskatuMesk | Day, and night. |
| 01:27.08 | IskatuMesk | Barking. |
| 01:27.09 | Tehwildcard | Kill it |
| 01:27.11 | Triceron | war2 is still one of my faves |
| 01:27.20 | IskatuMesk | I need holy silver melted from a church cross |
| 01:27.26 | Triceron | Wh-wha wha-wha what do you want? |
| 01:27.35 | Triceron | why do you keep touching me? |
| 01:28.00 | Tehwildcard | This has to be the best achievement they've added to WoW...ever |
| 01:28.01 | Tehwildcard | Double Rainbow - Perform a /gasp emote under the double rainbow in the Battle For Gilneas. |
| 01:28.15 | RedWraith | " |
| 01:28.21 | RedWraith | "under the double rainbow" |
| 01:28.21 | RedWraith | wat |
| 01:28.22 | Triceron | lol |
| 01:28.33 | HeyRevolver | Who knows about weapon data and weapon icons in the middle UI ? |
| 01:28.44 | Phaos | http://raw-e.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1z8ep1 |
| 01:28.54 | Tehwildcard | Refrence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI |
| 01:28.55 | Phaos | maul want help spriting ^_^ |
| 01:29.11 | ZarafFaraz | ahh ok |
| 01:29.12 | Maul | yes definitely |
| 01:29.17 | Maul | it will be the most intensive part |
| 01:29.21 | Maul | time intensive |
| 01:29.24 | Technomancer | Maul: Would this be possible to do without overwriting it? just duplicating right? I had assumed this was a behaviour, is it just ability and the queue effect? |
| 01:29.32 | Komodo1138 | Oh my god its a double rainbow all the way |
| 01:29.32 | Triceron | you should so animate that sun |
| 01:29.34 | Technomancer | err queue actor? |
| 01:29.38 | Phaos | DOUBLE RANIBOW OHMIGAWSH |
| 01:29.39 | ZarafFaraz | you going to make a sprite based map for SC2? or some other platform? |
| 01:29.40 | Triceron | it'd blow my MIND |
| 01:29.51 | Technomancer | can you tell me all necessary aspects in terms of ability/actor/effect/etc.? |
| 01:29.52 | Maul | im going to make a thread in recruitment after the contest asking for help |
| 01:29.53 | Phaos | yah spriting is fun tho! |
| 01:30.03 | Technomancer | just tell me real quick |
| 01:30.08 | Technomancer | I can duplicate em |
| 01:30.14 | Maul | let me have a look techno |
| 01:30.26 | Technomancer | all I need to know is what to duplicate and I can take care of that |
| 01:31.12 | Maul | ok looks like you need carrier - hanger |
| 01:31.23 | Gimpexe | maul, wow the lil building looks pro. what program did u make it in and stuff |
| 01:31.28 | Maul | queue (5) hanger |
| 01:31.40 | Maul | ps but paint could be used too |
| 01:32.02 | Maul | you need a launch actor |
| 01:32.11 | ZarafFaraz | Is it true that you are forbidden from editing your map if you submit it for the contest? You basically "lose ownership" of it? And that they would only enforce this if you win? |
| 01:32.20 | Maul | its just a sound > soundoneshot |
| 01:32.31 | Eiviyn | You can publish it after the 12th |
| 01:32.35 | Gimpexe | maul, k |
| 01:32.42 | Maul | and effects to create persistant and arm magazine |
| 01:32.49 | Gimpexe | Maul, will that the sprites be aranges hexagonaly |
| 01:33.12 | Maul | just isometrically i think |
| 01:33.24 | Gimpexe | sorry, thats the word i ment |
| 01:33.28 | Maul | that seems to be how the tiles work from playing around with terrain |
| 01:33.32 | Technomancer | Maul, the effects about create persistant and arm magazine, was that for me? |
| 01:33.40 | Maul | yes |
| 01:33.41 | IskatuMesk | Almost ready to export this thing... |
| 01:33.45 | IskatuMesk | just needs attachments now |
| 01:34.11 | Gimpexe | goodnight |
| 01:34.33 | Maul | oh and you need to set the weapon too |
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| 01:34.42 | Maul | thats where the effects are tied to |
| 01:34.59 | ZarafFaraz_ | ok, I got disconnected as soon as I asked my last question |
| 01:35.07 | ZarafFaraz_ | so I didn't see if there were any replies |
| 01:35.09 | Technomancer | another question: i havent played much outside of battlecraft and the campaign (addicted to BC :P) anyway, is there any unit that has an ability where you buy/pay for a single projecile attack, whether with energy or resources? |
| 01:35.33 | ZarafFaraz_ | So about submitting your map to the Blizzard contest.....so you basically lose ownership of your map and are not allowed to mod it anymore? |
| 01:36.05 | Eiviyn | You don't lose ownership |
| 01:36.09 | Eiviyn | I mean really, come on |
| 01:36.15 | Eiviyn | What would they want with your map |
| 01:36.51 | Technomancer | Eiviyn you might want to check the EULA/fine print on it, there is some deviousness in thar |
| 01:37.01 | Technomancer | I recall reading that |
| 01:37.07 | Eiviyn | Yes and the WoW EULA says your WoW character is owned by Blizzard |
| 01:37.14 | IskatuMesk | there is deviousness in every fine print in existence |
| 01:37.18 | Eiviyn | How often has Blizzard just assumed control of someone's WoW character |
| 01:37.19 | IskatuMesk | whether they chose to act upon that is the question |
| 01:37.37 | Eiviyn | Your map is technically already Blizzard's copyright |
| 01:37.38 | Technomancer | a map is kinda different tho |
| 01:37.42 | IskatuMesk | it's legal jargon to cover their asses for the most part |
| 01:38.25 | Triceron | hey, does anyone else's EULA say you gotta give up your firstborn too? I mean I did it already just in case, but just curious |
| 01:38.32 | Tehwildcard | Yeah, I really like the music Ignorance |
| 01:38.34 | IskatuMesk | mine does |
| 01:38.37 | Tehwildcard | Brings map together |
| 01:38.42 | Arthas- | Technomancer well |
| 01:38.43 | RedWraith | How do I get the red thing |
| 01:38.44 | Triceron | phew, thanks |
| 01:38.45 | RedWraith | to go off |
| 01:38.46 | Arthas- | EULA is not above the law |
| 01:38.48 | RedWraith | with particular words? |
| 01:38.53 | RedWraith | I set it to Ignorance a long time ago |
| 01:38.57 | RedWraith | gotta set it for Wraith too |
| 01:39.06 | RedWraith | where text with mah name on it turns red |
| 01:39.12 | Technomancer | you got the $$$ to take em to court? :P |
| 01:39.15 | RedWraith | and goes PING PING PING |
| 01:39.28 | Tehwildcard | I forgot |
| 01:39.29 | Arthas- | Technomancer if they try to bring me to court ill gladly go |
| 01:39.31 | Arthas- | in sweden ofc |
| 01:39.38 | IskatuMesk | actually I was reading the manual and the EULA |
| 01:39.48 | IskatuMesk | and it doesn't sound like you can really challenge them on matters like that |
| 01:39.49 | Technomancer | ohhh lol well yours is a dif story |
| 01:40.01 | Eiviyn | People here are so egotistical. Do you honestly think Blizzard is going to be so swept back by your map that they are going to steal it and sell it? |
| 01:40.09 | Arthas- | If I lived in USA Im not so sure :p |
| 01:40.09 | IskatuMesk | and before going to court you go through some negotiation process (to avoid the costs, according to the text) |
| 01:40.16 | Technomancer | UK here |
| 01:40.17 | Arthas- | Eiviyn no I dont |
| 01:40.22 | Arthas- | Technomancer congrats! |
| 01:40.26 | IskatuMesk | in either case... they are not likely to just take all the maps and run off with them |
| 01:40.28 | Technomancer | lol what? |
| 01:40.30 | Arthas- | I hear you have insane laws considering encrypted drives :D |
| 01:40.39 | Arthas- | or rather,. encrypted data :p |
| 01:40.54 | Technomancer | they also made guns illegal, doesnt stop me :P |
| 01:41.02 | Triceron | damn, my map hit 10mb |
| 01:41.06 | Tehwildcard | In Icechat it's under options, Text Highlighting |
| 01:41.07 | Arthas- | haha, true :D |
| 01:41.11 | Technomancer | but I actually live stateside right now, originally from scotland |
| 01:41.20 | IskatuMesk | my map is probably going to hit 40mb with this imort |
| 01:41.22 | Triceron | I guess I'll have to take out a few of these pics of naked girls out |
| 01:41.28 | ZarafFaraz_ | Well let's say that you won the contest with your map. Would you be forbidden from modding your map anymore? |
| 01:41.39 | Arthas- | Triceron no, just move em to .SC2Mod and use that as a dependency |
| 01:41.39 | Tehwildcard | Doubt it |
| 01:41.39 | IskatuMesk | not likely |
| 01:41.44 | Arthas- | Dont scrap the nudes! |
| 01:41.46 | Tehwildcard | They want the maps to be on Bnet |
| 01:41.47 | Triceron | oh snap, great idea |
| 01:41.48 | Technomancer | laws are fucked most places in the world, at least people dont bother with sweden |
| 01:41.50 | Triceron | now I can post video |
| 01:42.19 | Technomancer | I mean isnt that where thepiratebay crew is from? they slid off those charges with a little legal genius |
| 01:42.20 | Arthas- | oh and yeah, that was a somewhat serious suggestion as I assume you can actually have sc2mods for 11 MB and 10 MB on map |
| 01:42.31 | Arthas- | they didnt slid of |
| 01:42.40 | Technomancer | not arrested |
| 01:42.41 | RedWraith | okay new version uploaded |
| 01:42.42 | Triceron | how does the mod thing work |
| 01:42.43 | RedWraith | should fix the problem |
| 01:42.47 | Arthas- | the trial has advanced (and they pro-longed waiting time) after our election |
| 01:42.47 | Triceron | I still haven't tried |
| 01:42.50 | Tehwildcard | Im on |
| 01:42.55 | Technomancer | ohh lol |
| 01:42.58 | Arthas- | Triceron not quite sure |
| 01:43.05 | Triceron | can I pack an mpq? |
| 01:43.08 | Arthas- | last trial piracy party got a nice boost due to the trial :p |
| 01:43.11 | Technomancer | I thought they got off by making a fake CEO for their company that they couldnt find :P |
| 01:43.26 | Arthas- | Triceron well, Id actually pack models sounds etc as you do in a map in a SC2Mod file |
| 01:43.27 | Technomancer | I had to clap to that one lol |
| 01:43.38 | Arthas- | create a map with no terrain and save it as .sc2mod iirc |
| 01:43.49 | Triceron | it's a file? |
| 01:43.53 | Triceron | .sc2mod? |
| 01:43.53 | Arthas- | yeah |
| 01:43.58 | Triceron | hmmmm |
| 01:44.05 | Triceron | is that encrypted? |
| 01:44.08 | Arthas- | file -> new |
| 01:44.12 | Triceron | locked |
| 01:44.14 | Arthas- | change from document type: map to mod |
| 01:44.21 | Triceron | hmmmmmm |
| 01:44.27 | Arthas- | well its as locked as a map I guess |
| 01:44.29 | Triceron | that sounds like what I need |
| 01:44.38 | Arthas- | the data can still be extracted but hopefully not w/o mpq editor |
| 01:44.54 | Triceron | I just dont want raw .dds all over the place in a folder |
| 01:45.14 | Triceron | yeah that's what i was looking for |
| 01:45.30 | Arthas- | btw, what is max-size on storage now? |
| 01:45.32 | Triceron | anyone with a mpq editor will have access to any file regardless |
| 01:45.32 | Arthas- | 40 MB? |
| 01:45.47 | Triceron | they said to 50 |
| 01:45.48 | Arthas- | dont remember what they changed :p |
| 01:45.55 | Triceron | but is that in effect already? |
| 01:45.59 | Arthas- | no idea |
| 01:46.13 | Arthas- | it is |
| 01:46.16 | Arthas- | docs 0/10 |
| 01:46.21 | Arthas- | space 0/52.4 MB |
| 01:46.23 | Triceron | yum |
| 01:47.12 | Arthas- | ah well, night you guys. its getting late over here :D |
| 01:48.16 | Triceron | nn arthas |
| 01:48.51 | Komodo1138 | has anyone used the show/hide terrain cells? |
| 01:51.17 | Technomancer | another question: i havent played much outside of battlecraft and the campaign (addicted to BC :P) anyway, is there any unit that has an ability where you buy/pay for a single projectile attack, whether with energy or resources? |
| 01:51.38 | SycoPrime | Are there any very flat models in the game? |
| 01:52.12 | Tehwildcard | lol you crashed my game |
| 01:52.31 | RedWraith | lolwhat |
| 01:52.31 | RedWraith | how? |
| 01:52.34 | RedWraith | what was the error? |
| 01:52.46 | Tehwildcard | ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xC0000005) |
| 01:52.47 | Tehwildcard | occurred at 0023:00BD05F0. The memory at '0x1080F474' could not be read. |
| 01:52.53 | RedWraith | :[ |
| 01:52.56 | RedWraith | Well, that's hardly my fault. |
| 01:53.02 | Tehwildcard | was when the new song started |
| 01:53.15 | RedWraith | how would you know if the new song started |
| 01:53.19 | RedWraith | if you had a fatal error? |
| 01:53.22 | RedWraith | when it was loaded? |
| 01:53.24 | Tehwildcard | the old one stopped |
| 01:53.28 | RedWraith | mmm |
| 01:53.30 | RedWraith | want to try again? |
| 01:53.34 | Tehwildcard | kk |
| 01:53.44 | RedWraith | we should get |
| 01:53.45 | RedWraith | more people though |
| 01:53.50 | RedWraith | to see if it's a real problem |
| 01:54.09 | RedWraith | *cough cough* |
| 01:54.47 | Tehwildcard | If I have to... I will offer my body as payment |
| 01:55.20 | Komodo1138 | SycoPrime, i the Supply Depot(Lowered) would probably the flatest model in the game |
| 01:55.38 | SycoPrime | Komodo: Thank you :) |
| 01:56.03 | RedWraith | bah, I need more friends. >_> |
| 01:56.15 | Komodo1138 | you doing that diablo mouse movement that OneTwo did? |
| 01:56.30 | SycoPrime | Me? No. |
| 01:56.40 | Tehwildcard | picklefish |
| 01:56.41 | Tehwildcard | Sixen |
| 01:56.49 | Tehwildcard | onetwo |
| 01:57.03 | RedWraith | ~seen picklefish |
| 01:57.14 | purl | picklefish is currently on #sc2mapster (1h 37m 51s), last said: 'such is life'. |
| 01:57.32 | Komodo1138 | ~seen Yourmom |
| 01:57.33 | purl | Komodo1138: i haven't seen 'yourmom' |
| 01:57.40 | Tehwildcard | Arthas- |
| 01:57.43 | Komodo1138 | lol |
| 01:57.56 | Tehwildcard | rrowland |
| 01:57.57 | Tehwildcard | omg |
| 01:57.59 | Tehwildcard | no one here |
| 01:58.09 | RedWraith | lol |
| 01:58.17 | RedWraith | rrowland would never play Sentry Scramble |
| 01:58.24 | RedWraith | He wouldn't know a good map if it hit him in the face! |
| 01:58.38 | RedWraith | Komodo1138, come play with us. |
| 01:58.50 | Technomancer | another question: i havent played much outside of battlecraft and the campaign (addicted to BC :P) anyway, is there any unit that has an ability where you buy/pay for a single projectile attack, whether with energy or resources? |
| 01:59.16 | Komodo1138 | What is Sentry Scramble? |
| 01:59.46 | Tehwildcard | come play and find out |
| 01:59.47 | Tehwildcard | imo |
| 01:59.54 | Komodo1138 | lol |
| 02:00.09 | SycoPrime | Komodo, I saw your mom. Last night. |
| 02:00.33 | Technomancer | lol cmon man, I wanna make a effect that costs you minerals to fire a single shot |
| 02:00.51 | SycoPrime | I was actually about to take a look. |
| 02:00.54 | Komodo1138 | Sweet SycoPrime, so you my new daddy :p |
| 02:00.57 | SycoPrime | But I crashed mah editor :( |
| 02:01.35 | SycoPrime | Yes, yes I am. Now go outside with a football and I'll come out and play catch with you as soon as I'm done making this map. |
| 02:01.45 | Komodo1138 | lol |
| 02:01.52 | Sixen | ? |
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| 02:04.13 | RedWraith | Komodo, add me and I will show you. |
| 02:04.17 | RedWraith | It is the greatest map ever made. |
| 02:04.21 | RedWraith | Wraith.852 |
| 02:04.30 | KineMorto | hey sycoprime did you get that hydra turret thing working? |
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| 02:04.45 | SycoPrime | I did not, sir. |
| 02:05.14 | KineMorto | you tried making multiple weapons and making multiple unit actors? |
| 02:05.15 | Technomancer | ok so |
| 02:05.22 | Technomancer | ghosts and battlecruisers |
| 02:05.22 | KineMorto | Then tieing each one to the same unit? |
| 02:05.24 | Tofu | So, I have a ranged ability with a missile etc all worknig fine. How can I attach it to an already existing turret? |
| 02:05.29 | SycoPrime | Yes. |
| 02:05.37 | SycoPrime | The problem isn't bringing everything together. |
| 02:05.40 | SycoPrime | The problem is appearance. |
| 02:05.56 | Blacksoldier | i go sleeping... map as alpha version published on eu... maybe someone wanna take a first impression ;-) |
| 02:06.27 | SycoPrime | Tofu: Define "turret". |
| 02:06.41 | Blacksoldier | name: orcs and elves rebuild - alpha |
| 02:06.43 | KineMorto | Thats what I mean though I dont think you would need turrets if you did it that way |
| 02:06.45 | Blacksoldier | gn8 dudes |
| 02:07.00 | RedWraith | tehwildcard let's play |
| 02:07.09 | SycoPrime | Technomancer: Campaign. Vulture. You pay to replenish mines. |
| 02:07.15 | SycoPrime | Wait, no easier than that. Carrier! |
| 02:07.20 | Tofu | I have a hero, its basically a spore crawler. |
| 02:07.22 | Technomancer | no no no |
| 02:07.25 | Tofu | it shoots stuff |
| 02:07.27 | Technomancer | Battlecruisers and ghosts |
| 02:07.29 | Tofu | abilitywise |
| 02:07.34 | Technomancer | its one single shot projectile I want |
| 02:07.36 | SycoPrime | So, but, yes, you can have a cost, be it energy or minerals, for a single projectile ability. |
| 02:07.49 | Tofu | I can get around its movement issues with a 360 enabled ability |
| 02:08.05 | Tofu | but it seems a bit wasteful not to make use of its already fully functional turret! |
| 02:08.31 | Tofu | this ability shoots creep tumors btw. |
| 02:08.38 | SycoPrime | So you want the spore crawler to shoot stuff out of its snout? |
| 02:08.43 | Tofu | exactly |
| 02:08.55 | Tofu | or more accurately |
| 02:09.10 | Tofu | turn its snout and use it as an origin for the ability |
| 02:09.11 | Zanam | looking for a couple testers for a map, US server. few last tests before submitting |
| 02:09.26 | SycoPrime | Tofu: You should just need to go into the unit's actor, and then Events+, and then find where it handles the Weapon animations, and duplicate them for ability. |
| 02:10.13 | SycoPrime | Technomancer: You just need to create an ability that shoots your projectile...? |
| 02:10.31 | Technomancer | that you pay for ya, its okay i found good reference points |
| 02:10.47 | Technomancer | think Ghost Sniper round or battlecruiser cannon |
| 02:11.07 | Technomancer | you pay for a one-shot projectile that does massive dmg with its own kind of beam/missile |
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| 02:12.13 | SycoPrime | KineMorto: Normally, yes, you would just attach more actors to the unit, don't need to use turrets to rotate them. I can actually make a "two-headed dog" Hydralisk (connected at the tail) by spinning it around on that axis. |
| 02:12.27 | KineMorto | I dont mean attaching though |
| 02:12.34 | KineMorto | im talking about actual unit actors |
| 02:12.37 | SycoPrime | But the bottom line is that I have not found a way to rotate a unit about the Y axis. |
| 02:12.41 | KineMorto | then specifying the same unit |
| 02:12.43 | KineMorto | at the top |
| 02:13.24 | SycoPrime | Even if you did that, you'd have to rotate the other unit actors. |
| 02:13.33 | SycoPrime | To make the heads look like they're coming out of the same body. |
| 02:13.35 | SycoPrime | Same problem. |
| 02:14.27 | KineMorto | you have a screen? |
| 02:14.30 | SycoPrime | Tofu: I take back what I said, it's a bit more complicated than that -_- |
| 02:15.58 | KineMorto | does anyone know if things like doodad count affect load times? |
| 02:16.24 | IskatuMesk | probably, but only very slightly |
| 02:16.35 | SycoPrime | But the stuff you want should be in the "Spore Crawler Attack" actor. |
| 02:16.41 | Vulfe | I'm all |
| 02:16.43 | Vulfe | back from dinner |
| 02:16.45 | Vulfe | and stuff |
| 02:16.56 | SycoPrime | Kine: A screen of which part? |
| 02:17.18 | KineMorto | what it looks like right now |
| 02:17.25 | SycoPrime | Welcome back, Vulfe. |
| 02:17.32 | Technomancer | for abilities, where would I find the cooldown? |
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| 02:17.55 | SycoPrime | Kine: Yeah, in the thread: KineMorto http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/10823-three-headed-hydra/#p8 but what it looks like now is nowhere near right :P |
| 02:18.50 | KineMorto | I think you would do alot better to use a different base unit |
| 02:20.14 | SycoPrime | Technomancer: In cost+ on the ability. |
| 02:22.11 | Tofu | Yar I know synco |
| 02:22.16 | Tofu | I completely ignored you :P |
| 02:22.40 | Tofu | was hoping there was another method that didnt involve rewriting all my abilities as weapons |
| 02:22.50 | Tofu | since thats the only attach method I could see |
| 02:24.26 | Komodo1138 | hey RedWraith, you still around ? |
| 02:25.36 | Tofu | can anyone think of a purply zerg/cloud missile in starcraft? |
| 02:25.42 | Tofu | green is getting dull! |
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| 02:27.30 | Lilianna | Technomancer, Cooldown should be in Ability Cost |
| 02:27.43 | Lilianna | oh Syco said it too |
| 02:27.50 | Syniq | Which of these two do you lot prefer? http://imgur.com/mpDsN&QT9h0 (totally not SC-related) |
| 02:28.02 | Syniq | is updating his business stationary. |
| 02:28.03 | IskatuMesk | green is so black temple |
| 02:28.40 | Tehwildcard | Red stands out more, Syniq |
| 02:28.43 | Lilianna | SycoPrime, wheres the other one? |
| 02:28.49 | Lilianna | err Syniq |
| 02:29.04 | Tehwildcard | blue looks like waves |
| 02:29.05 | Tehwildcard | I like the red |
| 02:29.06 | Syniq | Lilianna: See "First Image", "Second Image" |
| 02:29.12 | Lilianna | Yah I just spotted it |
| 02:29.17 | Komodo1138 | ya the second one looks better |
| 02:29.29 | Lilianna | I like the red too |
| 02:29.36 | Lilianna | the Blue looks like waves, but way to unnatural |
| 02:29.42 | Lilianna | so it just comes across as odd |
| 02:29.58 | Tehwildcard | hm |
| 02:30.02 | Tehwildcard | I thought differently |
| 02:30.08 | Tehwildcard | I just thought the blue looked boring |
| 02:30.15 | Tehwildcard | If you're trying to get someone to remember you |
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| 02:30.21 | Syniq | I've got a green one as well, but I don't really like it all that much... |
| 02:30.37 | Lilianna | It could also be that ont he Blue one, your light and dark blues are too different from each other |
| 02:30.42 | Lilianna | making the dark pop out too much |
| 02:30.44 | Lilianna | becoming a distraction |
| 02:32.28 | HR_ | i had to nerf the shrink ray |
| 02:32.29 | IskatuMesk | oh god why are morph animations different models |
| 02:32.42 | HR_ | i may also need to add weapon rarities |
| 02:32.57 | Lilianna | Not all of them are |
| 02:33.01 | HR_ | cause it only affects the leader |
| 02:33.19 | Lilianna | Arent the viking morps one half in one model, other half in the other? |
| 02:33.27 | Triceron | no |
| 02:33.28 | IskatuMesk | I see a viking morph model |
| 02:33.34 | Lilianna | Oh! |
| 02:33.36 | Triceron | the morphs are their own models |
| 02:33.38 | ndudz | Has anyone made a good fix for the horrible lobby player system? My map is starting to get popular but there are a lot of bugs showing up due to the way players are assigned numbers. : / |
| 02:33.47 | Lilianna | Then the reason is its easier for Events+ |
| 02:33.48 | Triceron | so viking has.. 4 models. More if you're counting deaths! |
| 02:33.52 | Lilianna | to swap the models at Morph Start |
| 02:33.57 | Lilianna | and Swap at Morph End |
| 02:34.02 | Lilianna | shrugs |
| 02:34.04 | IskatuMesk | my flying/landing dragons are going to be hideously painful to make |
| 02:34.24 | Triceron | not really |
| 02:34.27 | KineMorto | nah |
| 02:34.34 | KineMorto | I have banshees that fly and take off |
| 02:34.39 | Triceron | you can have the animation in the same file |
| 02:34.56 | IskatuMesk | oh |
| 02:34.57 | Triceron | I mean, my death animations are in the same model file as my regular anims |
| 02:35.01 | Lilianna | Thinking about it, you prolly dont need it |
| 02:35.06 | Lilianna | splitting the models |
| 02:35.12 | Triceron | I just use the same model for both regular and death model |
| 02:35.18 | IskatuMesk | hmm |
| 02:35.21 | Triceron | and it works |
| 02:35.24 | IskatuMesk | that will make things easier |
| 02:35.34 | IskatuMesk | do the actors control ascent/descent |
| 02:35.38 | Lilianna | I guess the Thor is a better idea? It has a morph when its picked up by a Medivac? But its one model? |
| 02:35.45 | Lilianna | I think? |
| 02:36.07 | Triceron | he's using a custom model |
| 02:36.14 | Lilianna | I know. :o |
| 02:36.15 | IskatuMesk | I remember crashing wc3 trying to use metamorphasis for flying/landing dragons |
| 02:36.18 | IskatuMesk | it was very entertaining |
| 02:36.20 | Lilianna | lol |
| 02:36.48 | IskatuMesk | I have no idea how I managed it, because it worked fine for one unit, but for the other I got a mass of "string not found" for about 5 minutes before it flat out crashed |
| 02:36.51 | Triceron | truth be told |
| 02:36.53 | Triceron | I miss War3 |
| 02:37.07 | IskatuMesk | I miss brood war |
| 02:37.08 | Triceron | they're missing some unit designs that war3 had |
| 02:37.08 | Lilianna | I <3 the Data editor more then anything I did in War3 personally |
| 02:37.18 | Triceron | like no hippogriff rider type unit |
| 02:37.25 | IskatuMesk | I miss the simplicity, the power, the ease of introducing stuff |
| 02:37.38 | IskatuMesk | but I don't miss the broken ass overlay limits |
| 02:37.39 | Triceron | combining two different units to create a hybrid. And I don't mean DT + HT into archon |
| 02:38.15 | Triceron | or like, ability toggles like Defend footment |
| 02:38.25 | IskatuMesk | I miss vultures |
| 02:38.39 | IskatuMesk | with... actual mines |
| 02:38.41 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 02:38.53 | Lilianna | actual mines? |
| 02:38.57 | IskatuMesk | and cliff advantage. |
| 02:39.11 | Triceron | vultures in the campaign were kinda garbage |
| 02:39.13 | Zanam | looking for up to 3 testers for a contest map, last few run throughs before i submit it |
| 02:39.14 | IskatuMesk | yep... sc2 mines just kind of appear where you point them at, sc1 vultures made mines on the unit' |
| 02:39.26 | IskatuMesk | sc2 vultures don't even have grenades, they fire rockets |
| 02:39.43 | Zanam | US server |
| 02:39.55 | Komodo1138 | what kind of map Zanam |
| 02:39.55 | Triceron | yeah what's up with that |
| 02:40.01 | Triceron | rocket vultures |
| 02:40.18 | Tehwildcard | Tehwildcard.307 Zanam |
| 02:40.22 | Zanam | unit war style, artistic flare, lots of custom audio including a homemade techno beat |
| 02:40.26 | Triceron | I was thinking of a bike custom unit for Terrans |
| 02:40.29 | Triceron | like |
| 02:40.39 | Triceron | if Vultures were the Harley Davidsons of SC |
| 02:40.43 | Komodo1138 | i can try it out |
| 02:40.45 | IskatuMesk | I've got a lot of ideas for Terran units for my campaign |
| 02:40.51 | IskatuMesk | since their concept has been changed a lot |
| 02:40.53 | Vulfe | Yo |
| 02:40.54 | Triceron | this custom unit would be the Kawasaki |
| 02:40.58 | Vulfe | I need a model for a sprint speed buff |
| 02:41.01 | Vulfe | suggestions? |
| 02:41.01 | Lilianna | Triceron, I thought Vultures were that, just more prone to exploding |
| 02:41.02 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 02:41.05 | IskatuMesk | one of the unit ideas is a battlemoon |
| 02:41.12 | Lilianna | Cause they were made by Goblins or something |
| 02:41.15 | Zanam | uploading now |
| 02:41.23 | Lilianna | ooh I gotcha |
| 02:41.23 | IskatuMesk | vultures are like |
| 02:41.28 | Lilianna | Sleek super Bike |
| 02:41.30 | Komodo1138 | Komodo:870 |
| 02:41.32 | Triceron | but I can't figure what kind of weapon would be good for a sleek-looking shorter bike unit |
| 02:41.33 | IskatuMesk | signature units of the Terran style |
| 02:41.38 | Lilianna | Machine guns |
| 02:41.39 | IskatuMesk | hmm |
| 02:41.40 | Lilianna | nods |
| 02:41.41 | IskatuMesk | yeah |
| 02:41.51 | IskatuMesk | short-burst small arms |
| 02:42.01 | Triceron | mounted? |
| 02:42.04 | Lilianna | you'd have to point at your target though |
| 02:42.09 | IskatuMesk | not sure, depends on the chassis |
| 02:42.09 | Lilianna | Mounted to the front fender |
| 02:42.14 | Triceron | hmm |
| 02:42.19 | Triceron | maybe like, machine pistols |
| 02:42.19 | Lilianna | or just have it have no gun |
| 02:42.24 | Lilianna | and the rider has a gun |
| 02:42.30 | IskatuMesk | sc2 vultures have a better weapon design aesthetically, they pop out of panels in the sides of the front |
| 02:42.39 | IskatuMesk | something like that |
| 02:42.40 | Lilianna | made for speed, scouting, and popping Miners |
| 02:42.41 | Triceron | cuz everything has machine guns in SC2. Goliaths, Vikings |
| 02:42.47 | Syniq | Tehwildcard, Lilianna: Thoughts on these versions? http://imgur.com/nWiSZ&3yhF6 |
| 02:43.05 | IskatuMesk | Vikings have miniguns with unimpressive sounds :p |
| 02:43.10 | IskatuMesk | I'll fix that though. |
| 02:43.12 | Zanam | tehwildcard, invite sent. Anyone else, 1 slot left for a US server test |
| 02:43.15 | Tehwildcard | just change the A? yeah I like it |
| 02:43.16 | IskatuMesk | I've got just the thing. |
| 02:43.23 | Lilianna | I dont see much different, same thoughts |
| 02:43.45 | Syniq | Tehwildcard: Also re-jiggled the footer a bit... |
| 02:43.50 | IskatuMesk | I would prefer to use the cinematic viking model or remodel it entirely though. They are ugly... |
| 02:43.53 | Lilianna | Ah I see that now |
| 02:43.59 | Lilianna | but yah, same thoughts on the colors |
| 02:47.16 | Syniq | What about overall layout? |
| 02:47.52 | Triceron | yeah I'm not a fan of the Viking design |
| 02:48.01 | Triceron | I always preferred the battletech look of the Goliath |
| 02:48.51 | Lilianna | Indefferent about the layout, I didnt mind eithier way |
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| 02:53.59 | Coolflip | ~seen coolflip |
| 02:54.00 | purl | coolflip is currently on #sc2mapster (9s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen coolflip'. |
| 02:54.08 | Coolflip | psh |
| 02:55.42 | IskatuMesk | lol |
| 02:55.54 | LordAbyss | ~seen progammer |
| 02:55.54 | purl | progammer <4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 19h 7m 37s ago, saying: 'lobstercrabling, nice triceron :)'. |
| 02:56.00 | Coolflip | where do you download the bot again |
| 02:56.04 | Coolflip | i want it for another irc channel |
| 02:56.35 | Coolflip | slaps purl around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:05.18 | Zanam | thanks to my testers, any feedback just /w me |
| 03:05.21 | Otixa | prods Lilianna |
| 03:05.26 | Lilianna | Wat? |
| 03:05.35 | Otixa | licks Lilianna |
| 03:05.38 | Komodo1138 | Zanam that was fun. if it was not for the lag |
| 03:05.38 | Lilianna | No |
| 03:05.44 | Otixa | Mornin x_x |
| 03:05.56 | ReckeD | ~seen recked |
| 03:05.58 | purl | recked is currently on #sc2mapster (39m 26s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen recked'. |
| 03:05.59 | Zanam | im cutting the max units spawned in half, hopefully that will help fix the problem |
| 03:06.02 | ReckeD | wooo wooo |
| 03:06.30 | Lilianna | Its not Morning you silly Eu! |
| 03:06.35 | Komodo1138 | ~seen Otixa_Mom |
| 03:06.35 | purl | Komodo1138: i haven't seen 'otixa_mom' |
| 03:06.41 | Otixa | it's 6AM |
| 03:06.45 | Otixa | means morning >:[ |
| 03:06.47 | Lilianna | 8pm! |
| 03:06.57 | Lilianna | Lies! |
| 03:07.01 | Otixa | I can't feel my face ;/ |
| 03:07.15 | Komodo1138 | Its 9pm in the real world |
| 03:07.16 | ReckeD | i cant feel it either |
| 03:07.22 | Otixa | Also, CustomLive today ¬_¬ |
| 03:07.33 | Otixa | I cba with this shit :c |
| 03:07.38 | Sixen | when is CL |
| 03:07.44 | Otixa | Today |
| 03:07.45 | Otixa | ;p |
| 03:07.48 | Sixen | how long |
| 03:07.58 | Otixa | 7PM my time... |
| 03:08.07 | Sixen | ... |
| 03:08.10 | Otixa | so ehhh... in 13 hours |
| 03:08.12 | Sixen | Thanks |
| 03:08.13 | Sixen | :P |
| 03:08.19 | Otixa | yw :> |
| 03:10.12 | Otixa | smacks Sixen just in case |
| 03:10.18 | ReckeD | what is customlive? |
| 03:10.29 | Lilianna | Custom Games |
| 03:10.30 | Lilianna | LIVE! |
| 03:10.31 | Tehwildcard | Custom maps played live |
| 03:10.39 | Otixa | Ye |
| 03:10.43 | ReckeD | on bnet? |
| 03:10.45 | Otixa | And you get to listen to me bitch |
| 03:10.48 | Tehwildcard | You could watch it! ...or play the games yourself on bnet |
| 03:10.50 | Tehwildcard | either or |
| 03:11.15 | Lilianna | You get to listen to Otixa bitch about Xaragoth lagging out all the time |
| 03:11.27 | Otixa | Ye ;D |
| 03:12.34 | Otixa | Also, "are we there yet?" |
| 03:12.51 | Twiner | wtf did they do to the map listing? |
| 03:12.53 | IskatuMesk | yes |
| 03:16.07 | Syniq | Damn |
| 03:16.08 | Syniq | I really don't know which one I prefer. |
| 03:16.21 | Syniq | I've just printed a letter on both. :/ |
| 03:17.05 | jorgenpt | Argh |
| 03:17.11 | jorgenpt | Fucking fucking fucking fucking Starcraft II Editor. |
| 03:17.16 | Syniq | Crashed? |
| 03:17.19 | IskatuMesk | fucking. |
| 03:17.19 | jorgenpt | How does it fuck up all of a sudden? |
| 03:17.28 | jorgenpt | No, Syniq, worse. Corrupts the map on load. |
| 03:17.40 | Syniq | :( |
| 03:17.45 | IskatuMesk | I know of a few of the guys working as programmers in sc2 |
| 03:17.51 | IskatuMesk | because they made some of the initial BW modding tools |
| 03:17.58 | IskatuMesk | and that fits right in line with how those tools worked. |
| 03:18.01 | jorgenpt | ah sweet, I got it to work again. |
| 03:18.13 | jorgenpt | It's so .. volatile. |
| 03:19.06 | Syniq | Ah, fuck it. I'll get both. :p |
| 03:19.50 | jorgenpt | How would you have an ability that launched something straight ahead as seen from the current facing of the unit? |
| 03:20.06 | jorgenpt | Is there any effect like that in any current units? |
| 03:21.41 | Lilianna | Look at the Arcade game map from the Campaign |
| 03:21.41 | WAR | How come I never see my map on the list? |
| 03:21.45 | WAR | I played it fucking 100 times. |
| 03:21.48 | WAR | It's bullshit |
| 03:21.56 | IskatuMesk | the verticies |
| 03:21.57 | WAR | 5 minutes eac |
| 03:21.58 | IskatuMesk | they flip out |
| 03:26.06 | Otixa | flips out |
| 03:26.13 | Otixa | stabs IskatuMesk |
| 03:26.21 | IskatuMesk | otixa |
| 03:26.30 | Otixa | Hai |
| 03:26.33 | IskatuMesk | ever had a model break verticies and cause faces to spaz out and stretch across the screen? |
| 03:26.44 | Otixa | yeh |
| 03:26.50 | IskatuMesk | why does it happen? |
| 03:26.56 | Otixa | Bad workflow :P |
| 03:27.26 | IskatuMesk | well I didn't make the model is the thing |
| 03:27.31 | IskatuMesk | in max it's fine |
| 03:27.34 | IskatuMesk | in sc2... not so much |
| 03:27.46 | Otixa | hrm |
| 03:27.49 | Otixa | no idea |
| 03:29.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rodrigo (464f4549@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.79.69.73) |
| 03:29.39 | Rodrigo | Ok. I just cleaned the hacker mess on Debates. It took me almost 1 hour. =/ |
| 03:31.02 | KineMorto | ? |
| 03:31.29 | jorgenpt | What part of it would be interesting, Lilianna? I can't find any weapon that doesn't just use a preprogrammed facing. |
| 03:31.38 | jorgenpt | I think I have to use triggers :( |
| 03:31.49 | jorgenpt | What's the best way to make an Ability invoke a Trigger? |
| 03:31.58 | jorgenpt | (Or some kind of button on the command card) |
| 03:32.20 | KineMorto | unit uses ability |
| 03:33.01 | jorgenpt | And just make a placeholder ability? |
| 03:34.56 | KineMorto | I guess |
| 03:35.01 | KineMorto | or just use the key event |
| 03:35.05 | KineMorto | thats what I do for my debugging |
| 03:35.13 | KineMorto | I have like p o i u l k j h m n b |
| 03:35.17 | KineMorto | bound for debugging |
| 03:35.21 | KineMorto | just remove it on release |
| 03:35.23 | jorgenpt | Not for debugging. :-) |
| 03:35.33 | jorgenpt | This is something I can't solve in DE |
| 03:35.33 | KineMorto | what aare you trying to do? |
| 03:36.03 | jorgenpt | Two separate things: One ability that spawns a unit in a position relative to the current facing of the unit. |
| 03:36.15 | jorgenpt | (E.g. spawns it 2.0 behind the unit) |
| 03:36.34 | jorgenpt | One ability that launches a missile in the direction the unit is facing |
| 03:36.37 | KineMorto | Ok just make a dummy ability then |
| 03:36.42 | KineMorto | put it on the command card |
| 03:36.45 | KineMorto | make it effect instant |
| 03:36.53 | KineMorto | you might ahve to put an effect on it |
| 03:36.57 | KineMorto | like damage to self 0 |
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| 03:38.58 | LordAbyss | holy crap lag sucks |
| 03:39.06 | LordAbyss | when you are recording with fraps |
| 03:40.31 | KineMorto | whoa I just found a neat bugg |
| 03:40.40 | KineMorto | you can use for interesting mechanics :) |
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| 03:41.37 | Suterusu | Is there a way to set a variable in the trigger editor when you click a button ont he command card? |
| 03:41.44 | Suterusu | *on the |
| 03:42.41 | DarkRevenant | the button |
| 03:42.46 | DarkRevenant | needs to cause the unit to cast an ability |
| 03:42.50 | DarkRevenant | or otherwise be ordered to do something |
| 03:43.32 | Triceron | iskatumesk |
| 03:43.40 | Suterusu | So add behavior to unit + count behavior trigger? |
| 03:43.41 | Triceron | I had that vert problem |
| 03:43.48 | Triceron | but in an older version of the exporter |
| 03:43.59 | IskatuMesk | the back toes of this guy are breaking |
| 03:44.01 | IskatuMesk | dunno why |
| 03:44.01 | DarkRevenant | uh |
| 03:44.02 | DarkRevenant | no |
| 03:44.04 | IskatuMesk | trying a re-export |
| 03:44.07 | DarkRevenant | you don't count behaviors for this |
| 03:44.07 | Syniq | Triceron: How's the baneling cannon going? |
| 03:44.08 | Triceron | the issue I had |
| 03:44.09 | DarkRevenant | otherwise |
| 03:44.18 | DarkRevenant | any spell that causes the unit to have a behavior |
| 03:44.22 | Triceron | was because of 0 weights |
| 03:44.23 | DarkRevenant | such as the marauder slow ability |
| 03:44.28 | DarkRevenant | will set it off |
| 03:44.33 | Suterusu | well this is a special case |
| 03:44.38 | Triceron | maybe try clearing all zero's from weighting table |
| 03:44.42 | DarkRevenant | a better solution |
| 03:44.46 | DarkRevenant | is to cause that button |
| 03:44.51 | DarkRevenant | to make the unit cast a dummy ability |
| 03:44.53 | DarkRevenant | that does nothing |
| 03:44.57 | DarkRevenant | and does not interrup the unit |
| 03:45.03 | Triceron | Syniq putting on hold, working on my demonhunter a bit |
| 03:45.23 | Suterusu | so fater it cast the dummy ability |
| 03:45.28 | Suterusu | how will i use that to set a variable |
| 03:45.35 | IskatuMesk | that flew right over my head |
| 03:45.45 | IskatuMesk | and into orbit |
| 03:45.45 | DarkRevenant | you use the event |
| 03:45.48 | DarkRevenant | unit casts an ability |
| 03:45.58 | Triceron | did you rig/weight the model? |
| 03:45.59 | DarkRevenant | one of them, at least; whichever stage that the unit uses |
| 03:46.15 | Suterusu | I see |
| 03:46.20 | Suterusu | I'll give it a try, thanks |
| 03:46.23 | IskatuMesk | no this model is ported from another game |
| 03:46.32 | DarkRevenant | if you import models |
| 03:46.35 | DarkRevenant | you still have to touch them up |
| 03:46.37 | Triceron | hmm |
| 03:46.41 | IskatuMesk | yes |
| 03:46.47 | IskatuMesk | but I haven't had this happen yet |
| 03:46.54 | IskatuMesk | so I don't know what would be causing it |
| 03:47.02 | DarkRevenant | how do i become a channel op? |
| 03:47.06 | DarkRevenant | i'm a sc2m mod... |
| 03:47.11 | Triceron | well check anyways |
| 03:47.13 | IskatuMesk | if the weights are screwed up, I'll have a hard time trying to figure out how to fix them |
| 03:47.19 | Triceron | it has a Skin modifier on it? |
| 03:47.31 | Triceron | if so, select it, scroll down to 'Weight Table' |
| 03:47.33 | deathnight114 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJRYzZD87js&feature=sub - Ryan higa plays starcraft II |
| 03:47.35 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 03:48.08 | Triceron | then in the weight table, 'edit -> remove zero weights' |
| 03:48.31 | Triceron | I kinda doubt that'd be your issue, but see if it does anything |
| 03:48.36 | DarkRevenant | normally, you only do that after rigging the whole thing |
| 03:48.40 | IskatuMesk | I'll try that after it finishes this export and if it doesn't break |
| 03:48.43 | IskatuMesk | or does break |
| 03:48.47 | IskatuMesk | or I smash my head into the wall |
| 03:48.53 | ReckeD | has anyone worked out how to perfectly emulate wc3 shopping? |
| 03:49.06 | ReckeD | iv read some forums but they all have issues of some sort |
| 03:49.13 | DarkRevenant | why would you WANT to perfectly emulate wc3 shopping? |
| 03:49.17 | DarkRevenant | wc3 shopping can be improved |
| 03:49.21 | DarkRevenant | you're better off making your own system |
| 03:49.40 | ReckeD | darkrev, what would you suggest? |
| 03:49.56 | DarkRevenant | first of all, what is your goal for the shop system |
| 03:50.01 | DarkRevenant | what gameplay feature |
| 03:50.02 | DarkRevenant | does it power |
| 03:50.12 | ReckeD | it applies behaviors |
| 03:50.20 | DarkRevenant | what i mean is |
| 03:50.29 | DarkRevenant | how would it be used |
| 03:50.30 | DarkRevenant | in the map? |
| 03:50.38 | DarkRevenant | what would the players use it for |
| 03:50.46 | Tofu | wheres the checkbox for "allow vision of this unit for behaviours duration" ? |
| 03:51.12 | DarkRevenant | check box? |
| 03:51.12 | DarkRevenant | what |
| 03:51.19 | DarkRevenant | yo, table view is where it's at |
| 03:51.26 | ReckeD | my current system uses a unit has abilities which applies buffs to units that "purchase" them, the unit is on its own team that is controlable with shared spending for all players |
| 03:51.30 | ReckeD | but iv run into a snag |
| 03:51.49 | DarkRevenant | you |
| 03:51.53 | DarkRevenant | didnt answer my question |
| 03:51.57 | DarkRevenant | what part of the gameplay |
| 03:52.00 | DarkRevenant | are you maknig this for? |
| 03:52.22 | ReckeD | its used to apply behaviors to units which act as items, such as +damage or +armor |
| 03:52.28 | DarkRevenant | omfg |
| 03:52.31 | DarkRevenant | you don't get it |
| 03:52.35 | DarkRevenant | you're giving me |
| 03:52.38 | DarkRevenant | the technical details |
| 03:52.44 | DarkRevenant | not the shit that actually matters; the design |
| 03:52.50 | DarkRevenant | what are the players using the shopping system to do? |
| 03:53.05 | DarkRevenant | from there I can give you advice |
| 03:53.23 | Tofu | will your advice be as vague as the question you are asking? |
| 03:53.29 | DarkRevenant | no |
| 03:53.38 | DarkRevenant | its a vague question that gives me a more specific answer |
| 03:53.46 | DarkRevenant | so i'm not blind as to what the system is actually for |
| 03:54.14 | ReckeD | ill try again, but if i dont answer correctly dont get frustrated =P |
| 03:54.33 | ReckeD | the system needs to apply a buff to a players character for a mineral cost |
| 03:54.55 | ReckeD | there are multiple players, so it needs to apply it the purchasing player |
| 03:55.12 | DarkRevenant | I was more looking for a gameplay perspective |
| 03:55.21 | DarkRevenant | but from what i can tell, this is for an RPG or arena or somesuch |
| 03:55.34 | DarkRevenant | where the player buys an item that gives an armor, damage, whatever boost |
| 03:55.44 | ReckeD | correct |
| 03:55.45 | ReckeD | think dota |
| 03:55.45 | DarkRevenant | the question now is |
| 03:55.48 | ReckeD | if that helps |
| 03:55.58 | DarkRevenant | it's a permanent item? |
| 03:56.04 | ReckeD | correct |
| 03:56.08 | DarkRevenant | you can drop the item? |
| 03:56.10 | DarkRevenant | give it to someone else? |
| 03:56.14 | ReckeD | nope |
| 03:56.18 | DarkRevenant | well |
| 03:56.19 | DarkRevenant | ideally |
| 03:56.20 | DarkRevenant | if you could |
| 03:56.23 | DarkRevenant | would you let the players do it? |
| 03:56.23 | ReckeD | using behavior buffs to imitate items is fine |
| 03:56.30 | ReckeD | nope |
| 03:56.41 | DarkRevenant | why not? |
| 03:56.54 | ReckeD | because that would warp gameplay |
| 03:56.59 | DarkRevenant | okay |
| 03:57.02 | ReckeD | and result in unintended strats |
| 03:57.25 | DarkRevenant | applying buffs to players for a mineral cost |
| 03:57.34 | DarkRevenant | is a bit too much of a quick solution |
| 03:57.41 | RedWraith | hmm |
| 03:57.43 | DarkRevenant | that causes things like |
| 03:57.44 | RedWraith | Who's here right now? |
| 03:57.48 | DarkRevenant | revival and shit |
| 03:57.52 | DarkRevenant | to be difficult |
| 03:57.57 | ReckeD | dont need to worry about revival |
| 03:58.05 | ReckeD | because the units are invulnerable, and never die |
| 03:58.09 | ReckeD | so buffs work fine |
| 03:58.09 | DarkRevenant | wat |
| 03:58.14 | RedWraith | I want to do a game of sentry scramble so Tehwildcard can make a video to be released along with it. |
| 03:58.15 | DarkRevenant | what the fuck kind of map |
| 03:58.16 | DarkRevenant | are you amking |
| 03:58.22 | RedWraith | But I'd need more than two or three people for that. |
| 03:59.07 | DarkRevenant | in any case, buffs for minerals |
| 03:59.11 | DarkRevenant | i guess, in this particular case |
| 03:59.14 | DarkRevenant | would be alright |
| 03:59.19 | DarkRevenant | but that's a rarity |
| 03:59.31 | ReckeD | need a unit that has abilities which cost minerals, and can only be used by players within a certain range of the unit, and the abilities cost is taken from the using players resources |
| 03:59.51 | ReckeD | i think that sums it up |
| 03:59.54 | DarkRevenant | you will not be able to accomplish it without triggering it |
| 04:00.03 | DarkRevenant | if you're going with that approach |
| 04:00.06 | ReckeD | zzz, makes me sad |
| 04:00.10 | DarkRevenant | keep the mineral cost in the ability |
| 04:00.18 | DarkRevenant | so that the mineral cost is displayed in the tooltip |
| 04:00.26 | DarkRevenant | but it will charge the owner of the shop unit |
| 04:00.34 | DarkRevenant | what you ahve to do is trigger the mineral loss and buff application |
| 04:00.42 | HR_ | i think im gonna reduce my weapon damage so theyre not all one shot kills... i figure ill have to add more power ups |
| 04:00.46 | DarkRevenant | it's fairly simple |
| 04:00.50 | HR_ | that should be fun eh |
| 04:01.06 | DarkRevenant | also |
| 04:01.12 | ReckeD | my current system does that, but it produces minor lag whenever someone buys something, im trying to get it out of triggers and into data |
| 04:01.19 | DarkRevenant | why is everyone doing a third person shooter sort of thing |
| 04:01.28 | DarkRevenant | also you can't put it into the data |
| 04:01.39 | DarkRevenant | there is no differentiation between the players who use the ability |
| 04:01.44 | DarkRevenant | the unit is using the ability |
| 04:01.47 | Tofu | so, anyone know how to make a behaviour provide sight of the unit for the enemy? |
| 04:01.51 | ReckeD | okay |
| 04:01.52 | DarkRevenant | there's no way to see which player clicked hte button |
| 04:01.53 | RedWraith | HR_, I've got some comments on that if you're interested. |
| 04:01.56 | RedWraith | I'll query you. |
| 04:02.14 | ReckeD | thanks darkrev |
| 04:02.19 | ReckeD | i appreciate it |
| 04:02.23 | DarkRevenant | at least, inthe data editor |
| 04:02.25 | DarkRevenant | there isn't |
| 04:02.30 | ReckeD | i understand |
| 04:02.32 | ReckeD | cheers mate |
| 04:02.35 | Tehwildcard | RedWraith |
| 04:02.37 | DarkRevenant | the data editor is entirely player unspecific, for hte most part |
| 04:02.37 | Tehwildcard | take party |
| 04:02.38 | Tehwildcard | invite |
| 04:02.47 | DarkRevenant | there might be some |
| 04:02.50 | DarkRevenant | hackish method |
| 04:02.53 | DarkRevenant | but nobody has discovered it yet |
| 04:02.56 | DarkRevenant | you might find it... |
| 04:03.48 | ReckeD | is it possible to make 'attack to' commands for units using data? |
| 04:04.12 | ReckeD | using dummy units, have the abilities order attack, filter that unit using target sorts |
| 04:04.16 | KineMorto | gahhhhh |
| 04:04.18 | KineMorto | I love actors |
| 04:04.31 | KineMorto | seriously wtf they make stuff amazingly beautiful |
| 04:04.48 | DarkRevenant | my roommate |
| 04:04.56 | DarkRevenant | has nazi parents who forced him to move into |
| 04:04.58 | DarkRevenant | a single |
| 04:05.03 | DarkRevenant | a few rooms down the hall |
| 04:05.12 | KineMorto | o/ |
| 04:05.28 | DarkRevenant | i.e. i have a single now |
| 04:05.34 | DarkRevenant | with two beds |
| 04:05.42 | KineMorto | sounds like you need to push them together |
| 04:05.45 | KineMorto | and sleep like a big boy |
| 04:05.48 | DarkRevenant | i need |
| 04:05.50 | DarkRevenant | more bedding |
| 04:05.59 | DarkRevenant | my sheets dont stretch that far |
| 04:06.29 | DarkRevenant | oh i |
| 04:06.40 | DarkRevenant | finally put my review system maths into an excel spreadsheet |
| 04:06.45 | Rodrigo | I just opened a post about the hack asking blizz to make banks server-sided: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/627977233 |
| 04:06.46 | DarkRevenant | it's still really complicated |
| 04:06.54 | KineMorto | WHen specifying Source vs caster |
| 04:07.01 | DarkRevenant | banks are |
| 04:07.03 | KineMorto | source gos all the way back to the casting unit right? |
| 04:07.04 | DarkRevenant | small enough as it is |
| 04:07.13 | DarkRevenant | it would barely register on blizz's servers |
| 04:07.33 | DarkRevenant | plus if blizzard hosted them, encryption would be trivial |
| 04:07.46 | KineMorto | but then you couldnt come up with elegant solutions |
| 04:07.49 | KineMorto | to preventing it |
| 04:08.16 | DarkRevenant | you can just |
| 04:08.21 | DarkRevenant | make the cypher extremely long |
| 04:08.27 | DarkRevenant | so it takes more time to solve it |
| 04:08.34 | DarkRevenant | the problem is |
| 04:08.38 | DarkRevenant | it will ALWAYS be solvable |
| 04:08.55 | KineMorto | make it soluable |
| 04:08.55 | DarkRevenant | since there's no way to have a server-side hash |
| 04:08.59 | KineMorto | so if it gets wet |
| 04:09.01 | KineMorto | they will never get it |
| 04:09.09 | KineMorto | put water all over your map |
| 04:09.32 | DarkRevenant | ... |
| 04:09.33 | KineMorto | base the cipher off the date/time of day |
| 04:09.45 | Suterusu | Dark, I created a dummy ability (type stop) and gave it to my unit, I have a button on the CC and everything. I sent event of any unit uses ability type test_ability |
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| 04:10.07 | Suterusu | action text message "works!" to error |
| 04:10.12 | Suterusu | it does work |
| 04:10.15 | Suterusu | but it fires twice |
| 04:10.28 | DarkRevenant | it could be |
| 04:10.31 | DarkRevenant | any number of things |
| 04:10.36 | DarkRevenant | most likely some field in the data editor |
| 04:10.49 | Suterusu | like a period or something? |
| 04:10.51 | DarkRevenant | a hackish fix would be |
| 04:10.57 | DarkRevenant | turning off the trigger when it fires |
| 04:10.57 | HR_ | what does Mass do on a unit? |
| 04:11.03 | DarkRevenant | turn it back on in 0.00 seconds |
| 04:11.22 | HR_ | push priority makes it so one unit can or cant push another |
| 04:11.23 | DarkRevenant | mass makes the unit push back less when a force is applied against it or when they bunch up |
| 04:11.37 | DarkRevenant | im not even sure about the force |
| 04:11.44 | HR_ | so if it had lower push priority and high mass it would move but not much? |
| 04:11.46 | DarkRevenant | you'd think a FORCE would be MASS-DEPENDENT |
| 04:11.49 | DarkRevenant | ut that may not be the case |
| 04:11.50 | Suterusu | you must be a jedi to udnerstand the force |
| 04:11.59 | DarkRevenant | say you have a unit with 4 mass |
| 04:12.02 | DarkRevenant | and a unit with 1 mass |
| 04:12.05 | DarkRevenant | they are bunched up |
| 04:12.08 | HR_ | or maybe same push priority |
| 04:12.08 | DarkRevenant | 4-mass will barely move |
| 04:12.12 | DarkRevenant | 1-mass will be pushed all the way out |
| 04:12.28 | DarkRevenant | two 2-mass units will move equally |
| 04:12.37 | HR_ | i should make my cows barely pushable instead of unpushable then |
| 04:12.39 | DarkRevenant | its so you dont have |
| 04:12.45 | DarkRevenant | carriers that are displaced by mutalisks |
| 04:12.47 | DarkRevenant | or whatever |
| 04:13.10 | DarkRevenant | it might apply to the |
| 04:13.12 | DarkRevenant | ground-pathing |
| 04:13.13 | DarkRevenant | too |
| 04:13.18 | DarkRevenant | though that's not really pushing |
| 04:13.19 | DarkRevenant | but auto-moving |
| 04:13.32 | KineMorto | also sliding |
| 04:13.43 | KineMorto | zipping AND zooming |
| 04:13.50 | Suterusu | Ah, fixed my double up error |
| 04:13.54 | KineMorto | o/\o |
| 04:14.16 | Suterusu | I had it as uses Stop generic-1Any |
| 04:14.21 | Tofu | hmm fixxed it with persistants |
| 04:14.21 | Suterusu | and stop fires on execute and complete |
| 04:14.39 | Suterusu | so it fired twice, so I just set it to Generic6-complete |
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| 04:18.06 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 04:18.11 | onetwo | hi |
| 04:18.24 | KineMorto | sup? |
| 04:19.26 | RedWraith | onetwo! |
| 04:19.54 | RedWraith | I'm trying to get a big game of Sentry Scramble going for the replays. Want to play in a few minutes? |
| 04:20.17 | RedWraith | I want to make a video for its eventual release and I can't do that with only 3 players. |
| 04:20.36 | allenmelon | no more news post |
| 04:20.37 | LordAbyss | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLkNUXaP9zQ |
| 04:20.37 | allenmelon | ? |
| 04:20.39 | LordAbyss | onetwo! |
| 04:20.42 | LordAbyss | look at it |
| 04:20.51 | LordAbyss | and read the description |
| 04:20.53 | KineMorto | lol so many little onetwo boners |
| 04:20.55 | LordAbyss | there is lag :( |
| 04:21.04 | RedWraith | KineMorto, that doesn't even make sense. |
| 04:21.13 | RedWraith | You have no idea who I am, do you? Admit it. :p |
| 04:21.22 | KineMorto | you dont make sense |
| 04:21.26 | KineMorto | you cant see wraiths |
| 04:21.30 | KineMorto | how would you know it was red? |
| 04:21.38 | KineMorto | toss that around your noggin |
| 04:21.40 | KineMorto | bud |
| 04:21.56 | allenmelon | o.o lol |
| 04:21.58 | Triceron | what is that thumper building? |
| 04:22.21 | LordAbyss | i don't know |
| 04:22.25 | LordAbyss | i wanted to make it feel special |
| 04:22.36 | RedWraith | KineMorto, I can tell if I am the Wraith. |
| 04:22.44 | RedWraith | In the game |
| 04:22.45 | KineMorto | ur the girl |
| 04:22.48 | RedWraith | I'm just regular Wraith. |
| 04:23.14 | Triceron | i've never seen that building before |
| 04:23.23 | KineMorto | thumper? |
| 04:23.23 | LordAbyss | have you played campaign |
| 04:23.25 | LordAbyss | ? |
| 04:23.25 | KineMorto | whats the model name? |
| 04:23.32 | LordAbyss | its the zerg slower buildling |
| 04:23.36 | Triceron | ohh |
| 04:23.39 | Triceron | I never got that |
| 04:23.43 | Triceron | I got the hive mind controller |
| 04:23.59 | LordAbyss | sooo like the video? |
| 04:24.01 | LordAbyss | aside from the lag |
| 04:24.50 | RedWraith | LordAbyss, I watched your video. |
| 04:24.57 | Triceron | haha, funny ending |
| 04:25.05 | RedWraith | It looks like you just did a bunch of melee stuff and made a video of it. |
| 04:25.13 | LordAbyss | its for epic battle contest |
| 04:25.33 | RedWraith | The thing that makes a battle epic is all the units functioning independently like a real army. |
| 04:25.38 | RedWraith | Not explosions or lots of units. |
| 04:25.49 | RedWraith | The subtle nuances in the movement. |
| 04:25.51 | Triceron | the video looks kinda washed out and gray tho |
| 04:25.53 | RedWraith | The complexity of the tactics. |
| 04:26.07 | LordAbyss | trying to make something like that would take hours |
| 04:26.09 | LordAbyss | and i don't have hours |
| 04:26.24 | RedWraith | Triceron, want to play Sentry Scramble? |
| 04:26.29 | LordAbyss | tric, its foggy out |
| 04:26.31 | LordAbyss | in the map |
| 04:26.36 | RedWraith | Trying to get a good group going. |
| 04:26.42 | RedWraith | :) |
| 04:26.42 | Triceron | sorry dude, still working on stuff |
| 04:26.52 | LordAbyss | hes trying to make his own video |
| 04:26.54 | LordAbyss | :P |
| 04:26.56 | Triceron | yar |
| 04:26.57 | RedWraith | Most unfortunate! |
| 04:27.04 | LordAbyss | and is realizing how hard it is |
| 04:27.05 | LordAbyss | :P |
| 04:27.11 | RedWraith | Make cinematic -> send cinematic map to Blizzard |
| 04:27.12 | Zanam | kinemorto, you still around? |
| 04:27.25 | Triceron | pshaw, cinematics |
| 04:27.29 | RedWraith | I'd like to think Kinemorto is a hater. |
| 04:27.34 | KineMorto | yea messing with this life leech aura. Trying to get everything looking sexy |
| 04:27.34 | Triceron | I'm gonna make nexus wars with custom models |
| 04:27.37 | Triceron | and send to blizzard |
| 04:27.40 | RedWraith | Triceron <3 |
| 04:27.41 | Triceron | instant job offer |
| 04:27.45 | LordAbyss | lol |
| 04:28.03 | KineMorto | Triceron did you get my pm? |
| 04:28.13 | Triceron | yar, I was looking at the ref pic |
| 04:28.21 | Triceron | I think that's doable with the in game assets |
| 04:28.35 | Triceron | replace nova ghost with kerrigan head, do a bit of tweaking |
| 04:29.04 | Triceron | shouldn't be too difficult |
| 04:29.05 | KineMorto | You mean doing it with models? Or chopping the models up? |
| 04:29.11 | KineMorto | **actors |
| 04:29.18 | Triceron | welll models would have to be chopped up |
| 04:29.19 | onetwo | back |
| 04:29.22 | onetwo | lordabyss cool cine |
| 04:29.24 | onetwo | looks like a lot of work |
| 04:29.27 | onetwo | what do you mean unedited? |
| 04:29.28 | Triceron | you could do actors |
| 04:29.35 | Triceron | or export as a model |
| 04:29.40 | Triceron | either way would work |
| 04:29.43 | KineMorto | private message me ill give you some deets |
| 04:29.44 | LordAbyss | i mean unedited like i didn't put the starting stuff |
| 04:29.50 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:29.51 | LordAbyss | just tossed the things pieces together |
| 04:29.54 | onetwo | this isnt for blizz's contest |
| 04:29.56 | onetwo | right? |
| 04:29.56 | LordAbyss | didn't change timing |
| 04:30.00 | LordAbyss | mapsters |
| 04:30.04 | onetwo | oh ok |
| 04:30.15 | LordAbyss | i didn't even try for blizzards |
| 04:30.16 | onetwo | i still havent finalized on what i want to do for blizz's |
| 04:30.32 | LordAbyss | isn't that suppose to be submitted soon? |
| 04:30.35 | onetwo | i need to do something fast paced and hollywoody |
| 04:30.37 | onetwo | sept 27 |
| 04:30.58 | Tehwildcard | onetwo |
| 04:31.01 | Tehwildcard | its due tomorrow |
| 04:31.02 | onetwo | ? |
| 04:31.05 | Tehwildcard | wtf are you talking about |
| 04:31.05 | onetwo | the maps are |
| 04:31.09 | onetwo | the cinematic is due sept 27 |
| 04:31.10 | Tehwildcard | oh |
| 04:31.12 | Zanam | tehwildcard, up for another test? |
| 04:31.20 | LordAbyss | ooo |
| 04:31.22 | LordAbyss | cinematic due 27? |
| 04:31.23 | Tehwildcard | Sure |
| 04:31.26 | LordAbyss | i am so going to do that |
| 04:31.29 | LordAbyss | can i have a link? |
| 04:31.34 | onetwo | blizzcon.com |
| 04:31.36 | onetwo | scroll down |
| 04:31.38 | onetwo | click on movie contest |
| 04:31.41 | onetwo | in one of the news |
| 04:31.51 | Tehwildcard | I thought it had to be...like an edited movie |
| 04:31.54 | Tehwildcard | not a cinematic |
| 04:32.02 | onetwo | same thing really |
| 04:32.07 | onetwo | editing is just better cinematic |
| 04:32.09 | RedWraith | Tehwildcard, onetwo, that Zanam guy |
| 04:32.10 | onetwo | im going to edit |
| 04:32.11 | RedWraith | we should do this |
| 04:32.18 | onetwo | working on stuff atm :/ |
| 04:32.21 | onetwo | sry |
| 04:32.27 | Tehwildcard | ie machinima |
| 04:32.29 | RedWraith | but large game of Sentry Scramble! |
| 04:32.43 | RedWraith | bah |
| 04:32.44 | RedWraith | hmm |
| 04:32.48 | Zanam | i'm finishing up my submission map, gonna send it in tonight |
| 04:33.03 | Zanam | wanna help me test? :P |
| 04:33.14 | RedWraith | Zanam, same here. |
| 04:33.17 | RedWraith | how abouty |
| 04:33.19 | Tehwildcard | Zanam, I'm on |
| 04:33.20 | RedWraith | we both test eachothers? |
| 04:33.22 | RedWraith | I just need people |
| 04:33.23 | RedWraith | :P |
| 04:33.24 | Zanam | test swap? |
| 04:33.27 | Zanam | sounds good |
| 04:33.35 | Zanam | Zanam.886 |
| 04:33.48 | Zanam | good to see what the competition is ;) |
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| 04:34.57 | LordAbyss | hmm |
| 04:35.10 | LordAbyss | so for the blizz contest i should make another thing |
| 04:35.15 | pirate | mmmm, caffeine high |
| 04:35.18 | LordAbyss | and it doesn't matter what game |
| 04:35.22 | pirate | imma be good to map all night |
| 04:35.30 | pirate | 26 hour deadline |
| 04:35.50 | LordAbyss | i would submit mine |
| 04:35.56 | LordAbyss | but im waiting on proz to finish my heroes |
| 04:35.58 | LordAbyss | and im not pushing him |
| 04:36.38 | pirate | is anyone else in the contest going to publish their maps on saturday? |
| 04:36.47 | rrowland | lol this blizz custom melee is trash |
| 04:37.15 | rrowland | They didn't even take into basic melee map considerations |
| 04:37.24 | rrowland | It's all about the gimmick |
| 04:38.45 | Tofu | there will prolly be quite a few decent maps knocking around after peeps submit them |
| 04:39.02 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:39.55 | jorgenpt | rrowland: What do you mean? |
| 04:41.20 | Otixa | gives onetwo a can of cat vomit |
| 04:41.39 | onetwo | ? |
| 04:41.48 | Otixa | Use it wisely |
| 04:41.55 | onetwo | or not at all |
| 04:41.57 | jorgenpt | Why is Range an array in an Effect - Target? |
| 04:42.03 | onetwo | cause |
| 04:42.07 | onetwo | you might have multi level |
| 04:42.08 | onetwo | abilities |
| 04:42.12 | onetwo | that have diff range for each level |
| 04:42.18 | onetwo | for heroes |
| 04:42.33 | Otixa | But can you have cat vomit? ¬_¬ |
| 04:43.46 | jorgenpt | onetwo: Aha. Thanks. :) |
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| 04:45.07 | Batomys | Hello - is this where I should ask a Galaxy Editor question? |
| 04:45.27 | IskatuMesk | CAT VOMIT |
| 04:45.35 | Batomys | I will take that as a 'Yes'. |
| 04:45.54 | Batomys | How does one set the ability for one unit to be healed/repaired by more than one unit at a time? |
| 04:46.41 | onetwo | hi |
| 04:46.42 | Triceron | tons of people just shambling down the streets, you can hear moaning for miles |
| 04:47.01 | Batomys | Hi 1,2 |
| 04:47.09 | onetwo | Batomys: i think units can be healed by more than one healer |
| 04:47.10 | onetwo | or am i wrong? |
| 04:47.12 | LordAbyss | otixa! i credited you in mah map! |
| 04:47.15 | LordAbyss | i mean |
| 04:47.16 | LordAbyss | cinematic |
| 04:47.35 | Otixa | wut |
| 04:47.36 | Otixa | why? D: |
| 04:47.38 | LordAbyss | well in the notes |
| 04:47.43 | LordAbyss | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F1p070vk38 |
| 04:47.49 | Batomys | I think they can by normal Medivac heal, but I am using Nano Repair, Science Vessel for Mechanical type |
| 04:48.04 | onetwo | is there a flag in the ability |
| 04:48.06 | onetwo | or value |
| 04:48.09 | Otixa | yay ;D |
| 04:48.12 | LordAbyss | :) |
| 04:48.13 | Batomys | It returns an error 'can only be targeted by one unit at a time' when attempting to heal with 2 or more |
| 04:48.14 | onetwo | that is different |
| 04:48.17 | LordAbyss | now you should watch teh whole thing |
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| 04:49.10 | onetwo | maybe the Ability - Target Sorts+ |
| 04:49.11 | onetwo | field |
| 04:49.14 | onetwo | it says request count: 1 |
| 04:49.17 | onetwo | for nano repair |
| 04:49.24 | onetwo | honestly i dont know |
| 04:49.46 | Batomys | Edited, loading map now. |
| 04:50.22 | LordAbyss | god i love that ghost thing at the end. and i just added his voice in the last 10 minutes of making it |
| 04:50.24 | LordAbyss | lol |
| 04:52.30 | Batomys | No dice. |
| 04:52.39 | onetwo | :/ |
| 04:52.46 | Batomys | Still can't multi-repair with Nano-Repair :( |
| 04:52.47 | onetwo | confirm that medivacs can heal same target at same time |
| 04:52.51 | onetwo | then check each value |
| 04:52.53 | onetwo | and what differs |
| 04:52.59 | onetwo | between that and nano |
| 04:53.03 | onetwo | thats what id do |
| 04:53.07 | rrowland | i am so done with my map |
| 04:53.12 | rrowland | if i play it again im going to vomit |
| 04:55.18 | HR_ | go play mine :) |
| 04:55.27 | rrowland | what is yours |
| 04:55.34 | HR_ | SC Rally on US |
| 04:55.50 | HR_ | basically mario kart |
| 04:55.57 | Rodrigo | ======== Featuring news: Popularity is not measure per 12 hours anymore. It's now smaller. I believe 6 hours. ============= |
| 04:56.14 | HR_ | my map died last reset |
| 04:56.38 | Rodrigo | Last reset my map went from 2nd place to 3rd place |
| 04:56.54 | Rodrigo | Then, Blizzard reset only the popular maps. So, my map went to 2nd page. |
| 04:56.57 | onetwo | i thought it was any games over 5 mins |
| 04:57.29 | Rodrigo | +onetwo.It is, I'm talking about the "games per hour" that its not 12 hours anymore. It's less than that now. |
| 04:57.47 | Rodrigo | games per hour was games per 12 hours |
| 04:57.50 | Rodrigo | now I think it is games per 6 hours |
| 04:58.40 | SycoPrime | What's the simplest way to have an ability (that currently has an effeect type "target") remove a behavior in addition to doing what it's already doing? |
| 04:59.02 | Batomys | Who is submitting a map tomorrow, to the contest? |
| 04:59.08 | JamesW | lol would be nice if blizzard called it what it is |
| 04:59.16 | JamesW | aka games per 6 hours |
| 04:59.34 | JamesW | instead of per hour which is deceiving |
| 05:00.07 | JamesW | explains when I goto try less popular maps with around 100 games per hour, there is rarely anyone to play with |
| 05:01.55 | jorgenpt | SycoPrime: Make a new Effect of type Set, have it include the old Effect of the ability and make a new Effect of type Remove Behavior, and add that new ability to the Set, then change the ability to use your Set instead of the original Effect. |
| 05:02.23 | SycoPrime | D'oh, did not see remove behavior. |
| 05:02.31 | SycoPrime | I was adding -1 behavior and crashing the game :( |
| 05:02.35 | jorgenpt | <3 |
| 05:02.57 | Batomys | Anyone else have any idea how to allow Nano-Repair ability to be cast by more than one caster on a single unit at a time? |
| 05:06.44 | Tofu | I dont suppose anyone has a simple way to attach an existing missile based ability to fire from a units turret? |
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| 05:06.59 | Tofu | ie infested terran firing from a spore crawler |
| 05:07.16 | Tofu | I have both parts working, just not together |
| 05:08.33 | RedWraith | alright |
| 05:08.35 | RedWraith | it's time for |
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| 05:08.37 | RedWraith | Sentry Scramble |
| 05:08.42 | RedWraith | 5 of us in already |
| 05:08.44 | RedWraith | anyone who wants to play |
| 05:08.49 | RedWraith | Wraith.852 nao!!! |
| 05:09.48 | jorgenpt | What kind of map is it? |
| 05:11.13 | jorgenpt | RedWraith: US or EU? |
| 05:24.39 | RedWraith | six players :D |
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| 05:30.24 | Triceron | hey is there a way to add glows to something in the game? |
| 05:30.42 | Triceron | I want to make an object have a glow surrounding it |
| 05:30.55 | RazielZ | yeah |
| 05:30.59 | Rodrigo | im gonna play a debates match. Someone wants to join me? |
| 05:31.02 | RazielZ | attach a omni light model |
| 05:31.07 | RazielZ | debates? |
| 05:31.11 | WAR | Is there a reason why I cant find my map on the list? |
| 05:31.13 | Rodrigo | yup |
| 05:31.16 | RazielZ | On EU? |
| 05:31.17 | RazielZ | <.> |
| 05:31.24 | Rodrigo | WAR, yes, because blizz reseted popularity |
| 05:31.27 | Rodrigo | US |
| 05:31.30 | RazielZ | Aww. |
| 05:31.56 | WAR | No I never saw it in the first place |
| 05:32.35 | RazielZ | Maybe the popularity is too low... |
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| 05:37.07 | got_Ammo | does anyone know the limitations on what can be changed with catalogfieldsetvalue? |
| 05:37.35 | soundsnc | someone know how to remove a shadow from a unit? |
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| 05:45.04 | currydevil | Has anyone here made a custom leaderboard with dialogs, and willing to answer some of my questions? =) |
| 05:48.49 | Rodrigo | ======= DEBATES PRIVATE MATCH - LAST PRIVATE MATCH OF THE WEEK ----- 1 PLAYER LEFT ============ |
| 05:49.02 | HR_ | so if another buff gets added it will refresh the duration... so will the first buff never expire? |
| 05:49.12 | HR_ | how can i make sure the first one expires on time |
| 05:49.47 | Rodrigo | DEBATES PRIVATE MATCH! ONE PLAYER LEFT! ADD ME: RODRIGO.881 |
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| 05:51.22 | Triceron | diabetes |
| 05:52.15 | Rodrigo | yup |
| 05:52.29 | Rodrigo | DEBATES PRIVATE MATCH - 1 PLAYERRRR LEFttttTttTtTttTt |
| 05:54.51 | Rodrigo | debateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
| 05:54.53 | Rodrigo | 1 |
| 05:54.53 | Rodrigo | more |
| 05:54.55 | Rodrigo | player |
| 05:55.30 | currydevil | no? |
| 05:55.53 | Rodrigo | yes? |
| 05:56.11 | currydevil | I imagine if that one spot was going to fill soon, someone would have said something by now >.> |
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| 05:56.30 | SycoPrime | There's just the man for the job, Rodrigo. |
| 05:56.38 | SycoPrime | Hey, Resinate, how are you? |
| 05:56.42 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 05:56.49 | Resinate | good |
| 05:56.54 | Resinate | im submitting my map now XD |
| 05:56.56 | Resinate | uh |
| 05:57.00 | SycoPrime | Good luck! |
| 05:57.00 | Resinate | i have avery stupid question |
| 05:57.04 | Resinate | on the form |
| 05:57.09 | Resinate | it says REQ NICK NAME |
| 05:57.11 | Resinate | wtf is that |
| 05:57.31 | Resinate | is that ur IGN in game? |
| 05:57.42 | SycoPrime | It's your Renal Emergency Questionnaire nick name, it should be on your medical forms. |
| 05:57.58 | SycoPrime | It's in case you shit yourself when you win. |
| 05:57.59 | Resinate | what |
| 05:58.02 | Rodrigo | Debates? Anyone? 1 player left |
| 05:58.08 | Resinate | lol |
| 05:59.43 | Rodrigo | 1 damn player left |
| 05:59.53 | Rodrigo | why is so hard to get a player in this battle.net |
| 06:00.34 | Rodrigo | my other map platform defense I get a player each 0.2 seconds |
| 06:00.47 | wacko | its becuase your map sucks :P |
| 06:00.59 | Rodrigo | to get a player each 0.2 seconds? |
| 06:01.03 | wacko | yea |
| 06:01.08 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 06:01.17 | Rodrigo | 2nd place in ranking |
| 06:01.29 | Rodrigo | but now blizzard reseted only the popular maps.... so it went to the 2nd page |
| 06:01.41 | Technomancer | how do I assign an actor to an ability? :S |
| 06:01.58 | Rodrigo | wacko, want to join Debates? 1 player left |
| 06:02.42 | Resinate | im about 90% sure |
| 06:02.52 | Resinate | itll be banned form the contest XD |
| 06:02.58 | Resinate | for using the UT voices lol |
| 06:03.30 | Rodrigo | DEBATES - FULL HOUSE!!!!! YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FINALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY \o/ |
| 06:03.39 | Rodrigo | \o/ |
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| 06:04.00 | Resinate | lol |
| 06:04.00 | Resinate | guys |
| 06:04.05 | Resinate | this is a gf I WANT |
| 06:04.07 | Resinate | http://us.blizzard.com/_images/community/contests/blizzcon10/costume2010image.jpg |
| 06:04.27 | Triceron | Mmmm.... |
| 06:04.35 | Rodrigo | is playing Debates :) |
| 06:05.01 | Resinate | if i won a slot for blizzcon |
| 06:05.04 | Resinate | ill laugh my ass off |
| 06:06.10 | Resinate | anyways thanks for the help on the map |
| 06:06.21 | Resinate | i made a note on the map saying thanks to all my friends for helping me |
| 06:07.34 | Rodrigo | is playing Debates. thought: "Computers are better than kids" (Laertes defending, Mudmike arguing against) |
| 06:07.46 | Resinate | they are |
| 06:07.58 | Resinate | they dont cry when u watch porno |
| 06:08.56 | JamesW | yea but a computer cant do the chores around the house :P |
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| 06:11.08 | Rodrigo | is playing Debates. Thought "Canada is the best place to live" (NatDogg arguing against, Laertes defending). |
| 06:11.31 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Demonhunter_TC.jpg Team color! |
| 06:12.15 | HR_ | lol, if u make a buff that changes time scale, make sure you change the time scale source on the buff or it get multiplied by the time scale |
| 06:15.18 | Huesy | Triceron: Love the panda face :D |
| 06:15.27 | Triceron | haha |
| 06:15.39 | Huesy | Oh, the model is cool too. |
| 06:15.46 | Kine-Morto | he totally IS prepared |
| 06:15.59 | Triceron | :D |
| 06:15.59 | Huesy | But we're not apparently |
| 06:16.10 | Kine-Morto | maybe you |
| 06:16.49 | Kine-Morto | I wish time-scale buffs affected things like rain |
| 06:16.53 | Kine-Morto | actually |
| 06:16.58 | Kine-Morto | if I made it a unit |
| 06:17.04 | Kine-Morto | holy crap this is going to be cool |
| 06:17.04 | Triceron | I'm gonna try to capture some vids tomorrow |
| 06:17.11 | Triceron | but my framerate suuuckkks |
| 06:17.29 | Huesy | Turn your graphics down :) |
| 06:17.33 | Kine-Morto | eff that |
| 06:17.39 | Triceron | no way! |
| 06:17.39 | Huesy | haha |
| 06:17.50 | Rodrigo | is playing Debates. Thought: "People should wear clothes" Debating: (Twiddis vs. Woopy) |
| 06:17.52 | Huesy | My demo videos are terrible :P |
| 06:18.01 | Demo | You have videos of me? |
| 06:18.01 | Kine-Morto | I swear the sc2 editor has a memory leak |
| 06:18.05 | Huesy | o.o |
| 06:18.10 | Huesy | That was win |
| 06:18.13 | Kine-Morto | I have to restart my cpu every like 6 hours |
| 06:18.27 | Triceron | I have 6 gb of ram |
| 06:18.45 | Huesy | I have a lolmac |
| 06:18.48 | Triceron | and I can't run smetimes the editor bitches at me when I only have firefox running -_- |
| 06:18.51 | Kine-Morto | lolmacs |
| 06:19.04 | Rodrigo | the editor HAS INDEED memory leak. I've had the same problem |
| 06:19.16 | Kine-Morto | I have dual 46 inch screens at 1920x1080 |
| 06:19.19 | Rodrigo | jesus... its impossible to play Debates and type here in the same time |
| 06:19.38 | WAR | Where is my MAP? |
| 06:19.40 | WAR | I looked everywhere |
| 06:19.42 | WAR | its not on the list |
| 06:19.46 | Triceron | increase your APM Rod |
| 06:19.50 | Kine-Morto | thats because it was replaced |
| 06:19.51 | WAR | I played it a couple of time, to bump up |
| 06:19.53 | WAR | anyone know? |
| 06:19.54 | Kine-Morto | by nexus wars reloaded |
| 06:19.57 | WAR | I published it, Public |
| 06:21.05 | Rodrigo | is playing debates. Last thought "Human Kerrigan is better than Infested Kerrigan" (Natdogg is defending, Wraith is arguing against) |
| 06:21.16 | WAR | NO ONE IS CARING |
| 06:21.19 | WAR | WHERES MY FUCKING MAP |
| 06:22.07 | Triceron | oh, I found your map |
| 06:22.12 | Triceron | its in my pants all this time |
| 06:22.17 | Triceron | you'll have to come get it |
| 06:22.34 | Otixa | Ohai |
| 06:22.45 | Triceron | Otixa |
| 06:22.49 | Otixa | Ohai |
| 06:22.52 | Triceron | stabs Otixa |
| 06:22.58 | Otixa | evades |
| 06:23.01 | Otixa | stabs Triceron |
| 06:23.02 | Otixa | :D |
| 06:23.02 | HeyRevolver | lol u mad? |
| 06:23.08 | Triceron | dies |
| 06:23.15 | Otixa | sup? |
| 06:23.26 | HeyRevolver | highfives Otixa |
| 06:23.27 | Triceron | I tc'd my demonhunter |
| 06:23.33 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Demonhunter_TC.jpg |
| 06:23.46 | Otixa | ooh, neat |
| 06:23.56 | HeyRevolver | not bad not bad |
| 06:23.57 | Otixa | not too sure about the TC on the blades tho |
| 06:24.06 | HeyRevolver | the blades look awesome |
| 06:24.12 | Otixa | Why not make his tattoos TC instead? :P |
| 06:24.21 | Triceron | it's supposed to be like hero glow |
| 06:24.44 | Triceron | I was thinking that, but I don't think they were TC in War3 |
| 06:25.00 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 06:25.05 | Otixa | This isn't war3 :P |
| 06:25.05 | Triceron | I'd like to puta real glow on there |
| 06:25.21 | Triceron | pshaw, says you! |
| 06:25.28 | Otixa | Don't think you can without multi-materials |
| 06:25.35 | Triceron | ugh |
| 06:25.40 | Otixa | Since you need like HDR spec to get glowy glowy |
| 06:25.40 | Triceron | I tried that |
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| 06:25.51 | Triceron | well I can do that with this material |
| 06:25.53 | Triceron | the problem is |
| 06:25.59 | Triceron | my graphcis don't go that high |
| 06:26.06 | Triceron | shitcomp |
| 06:26.07 | Otixa | :P |
| 06:26.18 | Otixa | Eh, dunno then |
| 06:26.29 | Otixa | Make a bunch of alpha mapped planes that scale and look like glow? |
| 06:27.16 | Triceron | emmissive should do it |
| 06:27.23 | Triceron | I just need to tweak some settings |
| 06:27.33 | Tehwildcard | 2am now, 8am class |
| 06:27.34 | Triceron | and hope that high end users don't get overblown effects |
| 06:27.37 | Otixa | Dunno if emissive actually ads a 3D glow tho |
| 06:27.37 | Tehwildcard | just going to have to stay up |
| 06:27.44 | Triceron | it does |
| 06:27.46 | Otixa | adds* |
| 06:27.48 | Kine-Morto | triceron, I can put glows all over if there are attachment points |
| 06:27.50 | Otixa | oh |
| 06:28.03 | Otixa | Well, there you go then :P |
| 06:28.09 | Triceron | I was thinking of that too |
| 06:28.31 | Otixa | That's more of a hack than an actual fix tho <_< |
| 06:28.31 | Triceron | attachments are a bit tricky tho |
| 06:28.40 | Triceron | I gotta find out the right naming conventions |
| 06:29.01 | Triceron | ultimately I want a glow that envelops the weapon shape |
| 06:29.03 | Triceron | like War3 |
| 06:29.07 | Otixa | Aaanyway... I forgot what I was gonna do ¬_¬ |
| 06:29.23 | Kine-Morto | if you put one in the middle and make sure the orientation is right |
| 06:29.28 | Kine-Morto | thats doable |
| 06:29.38 | Kine-Morto | like above where his hand is |
| 06:29.45 | Huesy | Anyone else find this mildly disturbing? :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQoqpVa5IAA |
| 06:30.21 | Tehwildcard | Are you shooting a dead body? |
| 06:30.21 | Kine-Morto | lil bit |
| 06:30.28 | Otixa | Huesy, what's that? Turbo low graphics on 400x600 res? :P |
| 06:30.35 | Kine-Morto | TURBO LOW |
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| 06:30.38 | Otixa | Very disturbing ._. |
| 06:30.40 | Huesy | Otixa: It's the mac version of SC2 |
| 06:30.43 | Tehwildcard | yeah that's the part I found disturbing |
| 06:30.45 | Kine-Morto | TO THA FLO |
| 06:30.49 | corbo | what's disturbing? |
| 06:30.56 | Tehwildcard | lol @ max version |
| 06:30.57 | Otixa | The graphics quality |
| 06:31.01 | Tehwildcard | mac* |
| 06:31.01 | corbo | lemme see |
| 06:31.02 | corbo | what |
| 06:31.05 | Huesy | It looks mildy...sexual |
| 06:31.09 | Otixa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQoqpVa5IAA |
| 06:31.31 | Huesy | Or if I gave it a yellow tint.... >_> |
| 06:31.31 | corbo | oh yep |
| 06:31.37 | corbo | that's how my sc2 looks |
| 06:31.40 | corbo | low quality |
| 06:31.43 | corbo | low textures |
| 06:31.44 | Otixa | xD |
| 06:31.46 | corbo | low shaders |
| 06:31.52 | corbo | if they could be lower |
| 06:31.55 | corbo | I'd be there |
| 06:32.05 | Huesy | shawty got low, low, low, low, low... |
| 06:32.21 | Tehwildcard | them apple bottom jeans |
| 06:32.23 | Tehwildcard | boots with the fur |
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| 06:32.33 | Otixa | <_< |
| 06:32.56 | Huesy | (wit da furr) |
| 06:33.03 | Tehwildcard | hah |
| 06:33.14 | Resinate | otixa what was that video? |
| 06:33.18 | Resinate | a marine firing his lazor |
| 06:33.24 | Huesy | Firing his pee pee |
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| 06:34.17 | Zanam | tehwildcard, i have absolutely no way of getting my resolution set to a non-widescreen format. do you have a guesstimate of how far off the select all box and the voting dialog alignment were |
| 06:34.50 | Tehwildcard | it was about 75% on screen |
| 06:35.08 | Resinate | has anyone ever noticed |
| 06:35.16 | Resinate | all retards at comptuers |
| 06:35.23 | Resinate | use the mouse in their left hand |
| 06:35.31 | Tehwildcard | I have a widescreen too, Zanam |
| 06:35.36 | Tehwildcard | Might be better taking it out |
| 06:36.06 | Zanam | well even normal widescreens should fit normally, i might be able to steal one tommorow |
| 06:36.10 | Zanam | mine is a superwide screen |
| 06:36.20 | Zanam | normal resolution is something like 1400 x 768 |
| 06:36.23 | Huesy | Resinate: He's not - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWplvjyZLM8 |
| 06:36.36 | Tehwildcard | I thought there was a way to have it based on screen size |
| 06:36.40 | Tehwildcard | err I can't say what I mean |
| 06:36.42 | Resinate | LOL huesy |
| 06:36.51 | Tehwildcard | Like instead of at a certain pos it could be at a % pos |
| 06:36.57 | Huesy | Yes I typed in "retard using a computer" in search >.< |
| 06:37.42 | Zanam | hmm... didnt know that was possible |
| 06:37.57 | HeyRevolver | thats not funny that is how i sound when i play computer games |
| 06:38.03 | Resinate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lz50jGgdnU&feature=related |
| 06:38.05 | Resinate | LMAO!!! |
| 06:38.26 | Tehwildcard | Zanam, I'll look into it... could have sworn there was a way to allign them to certain sections of the screen too |
| 06:38.30 | Huesy | Why are they all large? |
| 06:38.38 | IskatuMesk | shit... verticies still broken |
| 06:38.58 | Zanam | i'm going to run a test, i can set resolution to 1024x768 but it gets really distorted. even distorted it should cut off the dialog at the proper spot |
| 06:40.43 | Tehwildcard | Anchor to right offset of -150, 0 ? |
| 06:41.04 | Zanam | .....wow. |
| 06:41.14 | Zanam | could it really be so simple... haha |
| 06:41.19 | Tehwildcard | :P |
| 06:42.53 | Tehwildcard | like Dialog - Create a Modal dialog of size (X, X) at (-150, 0) relative to Right of screen |
| 06:43.06 | Tehwildcard | then just create dialogI within |
| 06:45.35 | corbo | you people an all your problems |
| 06:45.35 | corbo | :P |
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| 06:45.35 | Tehwildcard | corbo |
| 06:45.38 | Tehwildcard | I'm afraid of spiders |
| 06:45.48 | Tehwildcard | help? |
| 06:46.13 | Zanam | tehwildcard, doing that and the rest of the bugfixes now |
| 06:46.17 | Tofu | the only solution to that problem involves a double glazed tank full of spiders. |
| 06:46.44 | Tehwildcard | corbo |
| 06:46.47 | Tehwildcard | my problem: http://pastebin.com/hzZkYNDX |
| 06:46.57 | Tehwildcard | Any tips? |
| 06:48.41 | Otixa | Stab yourself for safety |
| 06:51.04 | RedWraith | so |
| 06:51.12 | RedWraith | we can publish our maps on the 12th, right? |
| 06:54.34 | Hati | RedWraith: yup |
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| 06:55.07 | mattavich-377 | YO! |
| 06:55.17 | mattavich-377 | What time EU is the deadline for the contest? |
| 06:55.28 | asipia | pop quiz what is the only terrran unit with a melee attack? |
| 06:55.36 | Hati | 11th 2400 ? |
| 06:55.40 | Hati | iirc |
| 06:55.55 | Suterusu | SCV |
| 06:56.05 | asipia | truth |
| 06:56.14 | asipia | i just realized that |
| 06:56.17 | asipia | thought it was interesting |
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| 07:00.26 | ZarafFaraz_ | I wonder how many entries Blizzard is gonna get for the custom maps |
| 07:00.38 | Triceron | I think at least 5 |
| 07:00.51 | Driscoll | hey, anyone know what model / actor will do a circle around a unit, like a seige tank radius? |
| 07:01.00 | Driscoll | or anything that would accomplish that? |
| 07:01.29 | ZarafFaraz_ | well I suppose you could use the thing that shows detection radi |
| 07:02.01 | ZarafFaraz_ | not sure what that model is called though |
| 07:02.06 | ZarafFaraz_ | try searching for detection |
| 07:02.14 | Driscoll | cool |
| 07:02.17 | mattavich-377 | When exactly is the deadline for the contest in GMT time england? |
| 07:02.40 | Driscoll | or maybe the AEO symbol thing for placing creep tumors or scans |
| 07:02.46 | Driscoll | hmm |
| 07:04.07 | Tofu | @Driscoll thats a range actor |
| 07:04.15 | Driscoll | cool, thanks |
| 07:04.27 | Driscoll | i just tested it with the scanner sweep actor following a unit around |
| 07:04.27 | corbo | tehwildcard |
| 07:04.28 | Driscoll | kind of silly |
| 07:04.31 | Tehwildcard | yo |
| 07:04.34 | corbo | for spiders |
| 07:04.39 | corbo | you should |
| 07:04.42 | corbo | BURN THEM |
| 07:04.53 | ZarafFaraz_ | lol |
| 07:05.05 | Triceron | I hate spiders! |
| 07:06.44 | Tehwildcard | corbo |
| 07:06.47 | Tehwildcard | what about http://pastebin.com/A9VHfJmc |
| 07:07.24 | ZarafFaraz_ | hey wildcard |
| 07:07.28 | ZarafFaraz_ | how are you at terrain? |
| 07:07.33 | Tehwildcard | meh |
| 07:07.39 | Tehwildcard | decent |
| 07:10.02 | ZarafFaraz_ | you got any samples of your terraining? |
| 07:10.03 | RedWraith | Tehwildcard, I want to do one final test before I publish |
| 07:10.03 | RedWraith | gotta be sure |
| 07:10.03 | ZarafFaraz_ | what kind of map you got? |
| 07:10.04 | RedWraith | arcade |
| 07:10.04 | RedWraith | Wraith.852 |
| 07:10.10 | RedWraith | It's better than anything you've seen. |
| 07:10.17 | RedWraith | I can say that with 95% certainty. |
| 07:10.33 | Huesy | Anyone have any insight in to the "Location Arc" validator? |
| 07:11.07 | corbo | OH NOES |
| 07:11.11 | corbo | AN ELEPHANT |
| 07:11.15 | corbo | Don't worry |
| 07:11.22 | corbo | cobo has the solution obviously |
| 07:11.30 | corbo | Corbo* |
| 07:11.36 | corbo | wow mispelling my own name |
| 07:11.38 | corbo | anyway |
| 07:11.53 | corbo | to handle elephants you need only use mice. |
| 07:12.15 | Driscoll | is there any way to use an effect to trigger as trigger or function in my map? |
| 07:12.21 | Driscoll | *trigger a trigger |
| 07:12.31 | Tehwildcard | Don't really have any Zaraf |
| 07:12.33 | Tehwildcard | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4155997/Newest/Map.jpg |
| 07:12.40 | RedWraith | Tehwildcard, accept. |
| 07:12.42 | RedWraith | Get on bnet. |
| 07:12.54 | Tehwildcard | Only screenshot I have of any terrain lol |
| 07:13.25 | corbo | http://pastebin.com/hE88cbLt |
| 07:13.28 | corbo | see correction |
| 07:13.31 | IskatuMesk | ponies |
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| 07:13.54 | thenk | can't publish.. editor says my map has unacceptable words in it's name |
| 07:13.57 | Tehwildcard | is it a cockroach? |
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| 07:14.04 | corbo | that's a mice |
| 07:14.05 | allot | hello |
| 07:14.10 | thenk | funny thing is, the maps already published under that name..? |
| 07:14.11 | thenk | :P |
| 07:14.14 | Tehwildcard | Thenk, it has a word filter |
| 07:14.18 | Kine-Morto | I really like TheLittleOne |
| 07:14.20 | Tehwildcard | Could be anything |
| 07:14.21 | Tehwildcard | triggers |
| 07:14.22 | Tehwildcard | etc |
| 07:14.24 | Kine-Morto | hes just fun to watch play |
| 07:14.28 | thenk | haha really? |
| 07:14.34 | thenk | it's probably my trigger which says You suck? |
| 07:14.44 | Tehwildcard | ugh |
| 07:14.44 | Tehwildcard | maybe |
| 07:14.50 | Tehwildcard | It's funny |
| 07:15.07 | Tehwildcard | In beta I had a map published saying "What a fucking pussy X left the game" |
| 07:15.12 | HeyRevolver | Why won't both my weaponicons show up on the middle UI when I have two equipped? |
| 07:15.13 | Tehwildcard | and worked fine |
| 07:15.27 | Tehwildcard | yet at same time someone couldn't publish with Diablo in name |
| 07:16.03 | thenk | well, i haven't got anything in there that i have typed words into now. |
| 07:16.07 | thenk | i removed the you suck trigger |
| 07:16.58 | IskatuMesk | corbo isn't on msn |
| 07:17.01 | IskatuMesk | man what is this |
| 07:17.15 | Zanam | ugh... quarter after 3... so tired.... but bugs must be squelched |
| 07:18.11 | thenk | says, The requested publish name has unacceptable words (StarCraft) (LOCALE), and also, The requested publish name has unacceptable words (StarCraft) [English] |
| 07:18.24 | thenk | but the second one only shows if i put StarCraft in the map name |
| 07:18.52 | thenk | so i think the locale is bugged. |
| 07:19.00 | thenk | and it's reading '' as an unacceptable word |
| 07:21.32 | thenk | lol ok, the map was named default in the map info, so it wouldnt let me publish =[ |
| 07:21.32 | Zanam | alright... think everything has been fixed. tehwildcard, corbo, zaraffaraz, anyone who wants another go... most likely final test running now. |
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| 07:24.47 | Tehwildcard | lol thenk |
| 07:25.24 | Driscoll | anyone ever have trouble with new entries in the data editor not showing up in dropdowns? |
| 07:25.24 | Driscoll | do i need to refresh or something? |
| 07:27.17 | ReckeD | Whats wrong with this statement |
| 07:27.18 | ReckeD | CountBehavior(Overloaded,Total){Already Overloaded} == 0 |
| 07:28.20 | HeyRevolver | you megaflopped your gigadrives for the flashnet on the intertax |
| 07:28.45 | HeyRevolver | goes it have more GEEBEES? |
| 07:29.56 | ReckeD | no-one? |
| 07:30.05 | ReckeD | my requirements are teh fail sauce =( |
| 07:36.31 | RedWraith | hmm |
| 07:36.38 | RedWraith | I can't seem to make a good description of my map |
| 07:36.56 | Otixa | http://www.nytimes.com/external/gigaom/2010/09/02/02gigaom-4chan-decides-to-do-something-nice-for-a-change-83153.html |
| 07:37.05 | Otixa | The internet as we know it is now gone |
| 07:37.13 | Otixa | goes to live in a cave |
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| 07:40.46 | Driscoll | any ideas on making computer units stay a certain radius from certain units? |
| 07:40.54 | Driscoll | i'm doing it in a kind of workaround way |
| 07:41.02 | Driscoll | that might be bad for performance |
| 07:42.29 | rooj | “By all means, send cards and well wishes,” he added, “but please refrain from sending gifts/strippers/cakes/candies/etc. and instead please make a donation in his name to a local veterans charity.” |
| 07:43.57 | Otixa | xD |
| 07:44.03 | Otixa | SEND MOAR STRIPPERS |
| 07:44.19 | HR_ | does anyone know of any YELLOW beams |
| 07:44.29 | HR_ | any unit with a yellow beam attack? |
| 07:44.41 | HR_ | dont think i can tint from blue to yellow |
| 07:44.41 | Otixa | stone zealot |
| 07:44.49 | Otixa | collosus |
| 07:44.52 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 07:45.12 | HR_ | ty |
| 07:45.31 | HR_ | both are colossus beam :) |
| 07:47.05 | Otixa | You: I'd like to make a reservation... |
| 07:47.05 | Otixa | Restaurant: For how many? |
| 07:47.06 | Otixa | You: The Internet. |
| 07:47.08 | Otixa | :D |
| 07:47.21 | HeyRevolver | spleen bursting humor |
| 07:47.24 | RedWraith | How's this for a description guise? |
| 07:47.25 | RedWraith | Sentry Scramble is an arcade game map where players evade fires and try to outlive and outsmart each other. Run through this randomly generated maze listening to the classic soundtrack of The Lost Vikings while darting around the flames. Use force fields, hallucinations and blink to evade the flames and outwit your enemies. Players that die will return as ghosts to exact sweet revenge upon the remaining players. As a ghost, plant bo |
| 07:47.56 | Tehwildcard | plant boobs? |
| 07:48.10 | HeyRevolver | sounds good so far |
| 07:48.13 | HeyRevolver | and sounds like a fun map |
| 07:48.14 | Otixa | bombs |
| 07:48.20 | rrowland | You should replace it with, "Sentry Scramble has been released on Battle.net. Please disqualify me." |
| 07:48.34 | RedWraith | rrowland, that's not true. |
| 07:49.01 | Zanam | RedWraith... here's a random though... what if you switched them from sentries to mini vikings in fighter mode and call it Viking Scramble since you're using the lost viking theme songs |
| 07:49.02 | rrowland | Hey guys I added a building to the corner of my map, it's a completely different map |
| 07:49.03 | RedWraith | It was public in closed beta. That's still a closed audience. |
| 07:49.05 | Tehwildcard | Same title != same map |
| 07:49.10 | Zanam | and they did have a knack for dying and coming back |
| 07:49.27 | rrowland | Your map was featured by Husky |
| 07:49.31 | rrowland | That's not a closed audience |
| 07:49.53 | Tehwildcard | Thanks for your insight, Blizzard. |
| 07:50.20 | Zanam | tehwildcard, that didnt take long. all things fixed. |
| 07:50.31 | rrowland | I'm just saying |
| 07:50.35 | RedWraith | rrowland, the map itself was never released in a public setting. By Blizzard's own standard of the term release, a closed beta wouldn't count. :P |
| 07:50.35 | rrowland | Don't get your hopes up |
| 07:50.39 | RedWraith | :[ |
| 07:50.48 | rrowland | The term isn't release though |
| 07:50.55 | RedWraith | It's unreleased. |
| 07:50.57 | rrowland | The terms are "display, post or share" |
| 07:51.00 | HeyRevolver | its been published |
| 07:51.01 | RedWraith | No. |
| 07:51.04 | HeyRevolver | where is the confusion here |
| 07:51.05 | rrowland | Which it definitely falls under |
| 07:51.07 | HeyRevolver | if its been published |
| 07:51.10 | HeyRevolver | it cant be submitted |
| 07:51.13 | RedWraith | Read that properly. |
| 07:51.16 | rrowland | "By submitting this map I am granting licensing rights to Blizzard Entertainment, and will not display, post, or share it until after the contest closes on September 11, 2010.*" |
| 07:51.17 | RedWraith | By submitting this map I am granting licensing rights to Blizzard Entertainment, and will not display, post, or share it until after the contest closes on September 11, 2010.* |
| 07:51.20 | RedWraith | Not has been. |
| 07:51.22 | RedWraith | will not |
| 07:51.30 | rrowland | lol |
| 07:51.31 | RedWraith | Notice the future tense? |
| 07:51.41 | RedWraith | Considering they used unreleased in the contract. |
| 07:51.51 | Tehwildcard | The current map hasn't been displayed posted or shared. |
| 07:52.00 | RedWraith | Indeed. |
| 07:52.03 | rrowland | You think they're going to see that and go, "Doh! Guess we messed up the phrasing! Looks like we have to let a bunch of crappy released maps win the contest now!"? |
| 07:52.18 | Tehwildcard | rrowland, better question |
| 07:52.22 | Tehwildcard | Why do you care so much |
| 07:52.27 | RedWraith | rrowland, except that "unreleased" is in the contract. |
| 07:52.30 | IskatuMesk | damnit |
| 07:52.40 | RedWraith | and that's past tense |
| 07:52.44 | IskatuMesk | I tried the idea of removing the weight 0 stuff and the vertices are still broken |
| 07:53.00 | rrowland | lol Whatever man |
| 07:53.02 | ReckeD | So im having an issue with my requirement functioning backwards |
| 07:53.06 | rrowland | gl with sentry scramble |
| 07:53.08 | Tehwildcard | They even said, feel free to make the next dota |
| 07:53.11 | RedWraith | Besides, the game even looks nothing like the original. :P |
| 07:53.14 | RedWraith | Same name != same map |
| 07:53.15 | RedWraith | :P |
| 07:53.15 | ReckeD | and even when i change > to <, or = to != |
| 07:53.23 | ReckeD | its still working backwards, any ideas? |
| 07:54.42 | HR_ | wierdly when i change it to a different beam, it doesnt work right, leaves copies of the beam and not right # of them |
| 07:54.55 | HR_ | but i didnt create my beam actor i just linked the original |
| 07:56.32 | mattavich-377 | Guys |
| 07:56.47 | mattavich-377 | Will using "pick each unit" in a unit variable array cause problems? |
| 07:56.56 | RedWraith | But yeah, knowing Blizzard, they'll likely pick at least one piece of trash map that doesn't even work on battle.net |
| 07:57.25 | ReckeD | depends on its use mata |
| 07:57.49 | mattavich-377 | i'm adding a behavior to the "heros" that are saved in that array by unittype |
| 07:57.53 | mattavich-377 | it works for players |
| 07:57.54 | mattavich-377 | but |
| 07:57.57 | mattavich-377 | for computer players |
| 07:58.05 | mattavich-377 | it will add the behavior to every unit on the map for that player |
| 07:58.17 | mattavich-377 | i can only see the problem being the variable array |
| 08:05.58 | Dogmai | you morons =\ |
| 08:06.04 | Dogmai | the whole display post share thing |
| 08:06.08 | Dogmai | is so you cant go crying to blizzard |
| 08:06.11 | Dogmai | saying he stole my map |
| 08:06.25 | Dogmai | its got nothing to do with the competition except for dealing with the headache of you guys |
| 08:06.26 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 08:07.08 | Zanam | tehwildcard, you still around? |
| 08:07.11 | Tehwildcard | yo |
| 08:07.26 | Zanam | everything's been adjusted and fixed. wanna double check em with me |
| 08:07.33 | Tehwildcard | kk |
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| 08:12.21 | Phaos | ACCORDING CRAMPLE! |
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| 08:18.50 | RedWraith | well, that's nerve wrecking |
| 08:18.55 | RedWraith | Your Entry has been Submitted |
| 08:19.01 | RedWraith | only confirmation |
| 08:19.04 | RedWraith | no link to your map |
| 08:19.06 | RedWraith | no nothing |
| 08:19.06 | RedWraith | :P |
| 08:19.39 | RedWraith | oh |
| 08:19.42 | RedWraith | they send an email too |
| 08:20.03 | HR_ | how do you use Time Variant in an event animation play |
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| 08:21.13 | RedWraith | HR, I think that's one of those *only works for certain animations |
| 08:21.15 | RedWraith | kinda deals |
| 08:21.48 | HR_ | o rly |
| 08:22.00 | RedWraith | I don't know much about it |
| 08:22.05 | RedWraith | I had that problem with the reaper mine |
| 08:24.21 | Xackery | time variant is dependant on what animation type, e.g. if you set it to duration |
| 08:24.22 | thenk | i want to know more about lots of parts of the editor |
| 08:24.27 | thenk | like Marker - Link .. what is that? |
| 08:24.31 | thenk | what is Marker, for that matter? |
| 08:24.32 | Xackery | the animation will play for e.g. 2 second if time variant is 2 |
| 08:24.36 | thenk | everything has it. |
| 08:24.49 | Xackery | it's for linking effects together |
| 08:25.07 | Tehwildcard | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XduXCp91_IA&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_fresh+div-1r-11-HM |
| 08:25.11 | Tehwildcard | Why am I just seeing this now |
| 08:25.16 | Xackery | e.g. cooldowns can be ability, unit, or player linked |
| 08:26.17 | HR_ | hmm even with it set to duration wasnt working for me |
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| 08:26.50 | Xackery | how are you playing it? |
| 08:26.52 | lordnk | well like for example, I have a apply behaviour effect, under 'target' it says 'Marker - Count', Marker - Match Flags.. |
| 08:27.09 | Xackery | animation play? bracket? |
| 08:27.13 | lordnk | what's that whole tab do to the effect? |
| 08:29.15 | HR_ | i got it to work by setting the speed at the model |
| 08:29.32 | lordnk | is there some place which tells the point of Markers? |
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| 08:30.29 | Helral | hey all |
| 08:30.40 | Rodrigo | My english teacher is a 60-years old lady and she asked me to read a book. |
| 08:30.51 | Rodrigo | is reading a book |
| 08:30.53 | Tehwildcard | read? |
| 08:30.56 | Tehwildcard | what is that word? |
| 08:30.57 | Helral|Work | what did you do? take the encyclopedia? |
| 08:31.03 | Rodrigo | damn, there's a fuck word in each page |
| 08:31.11 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 08:31.25 | Rodrigo | she suggested a book, but theres a fuck word in each page |
| 08:31.26 | Rodrigo | thats really surprising for an old ladie |
| 08:31.31 | Helral|Work | "The way the female body works" :P |
| 08:31.35 | Rodrigo | I'm actually LEARNING ENGLISH NOW |
| 08:31.41 | Helral|Work | XD |
| 08:31.45 | Helral|Work | or which book was it? |
| 08:32.19 | Rodrigo | never seen that word before: "it contributed to her present FUCKED-UPNESS." |
| 08:32.38 | Helral|Work | hmmmm sounds like a wrongly translated book or something... |
| 08:32.42 | mattavich-377 | Cutting it close tot he contest deadline now >.< |
| 08:32.45 | lordnk | maybe she's trying to give you a hint.... |
| 08:32.52 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 08:32.53 | Rodrigo | present fucked-upness |
| 08:32.54 | Rodrigo | hahahahah |
| 08:32.57 | Rodrigo | I really liked that |
| 08:33.08 | mattavich-377 | Anyone else not submitted their contest map yet? |
| 08:33.14 | Helral|Work | perhaps she though that book would fit your personality. |
| 08:33.25 | Rodrigo | Battle.net is contributing with custom maps present fucked-upness. |
| 08:33.27 | Helral|Work | mattavich-377: yup, won't be done in time here. |
| 08:33.33 | Rodrigo | hahahahhaha. Good book to learn english :D |
| 08:33.43 | Helral|Work | what is the title of that book? |
| 08:33.53 | Otixa | ur mum |
| 08:33.56 | Rodrigo | "The brief wondrous life of Oscar Wao" |
| 08:34.04 | Helral|Work | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/trigger-libraries/11078-library-easy-catalog-wip/ <-- anyone got some requests for that lib |
| 08:34.23 | Rodrigo | its a story of a nerd guy with 2 girlfriends |
| 08:34.52 | mattavich-377 | Helral. Really good lib i'm looking forwqard to it |
| 08:35.09 | SycoPrime | Rodrigo: I would have guessed you were reading Catcher in the Rhye, but it sounds like you're reading something written by a japanese guy. |
| 08:35.17 | lordnk | What is Target - Marker - Count |
| 08:35.18 | mattavich-377 | The thing that annoys me that a lot of the time I simply want to set a value by pulling the current value and adding % |
| 08:35.19 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 08:35.19 | lordnk | ?! |
| 08:35.22 | Otixa | Helral|Work, I request that you stab yourself for safety :D |
| 08:35.23 | mattavich-377 | if you could make that easier |
| 08:35.35 | mattavich-377 | that would be v useful |
| 08:35.36 | SycoPrime | mattavich: I'm cutting it close, too. And like Helral, probably won't be done in time, but I'll be submitting anyway :/ |
| 08:35.49 | mattavich-377 | GL m8 |
| 08:36.19 | mattavich-377 | I went for a fully multiplayer map and unfortunately that brings constant bugs/balance issues which are more time consuming than anything --- |
| 08:36.24 | lordnk | mattavich-377, what you mean, multiply variable by 1.1 to add 10% |
| 08:36.26 | mattavich-377 | -_- |
| 08:36.40 | Rodrigo | I have to look this up on the dictionary |
| 08:36.47 | mattavich-377 | Yes lordnk, but doing that via catalog is annoying |
| 08:36.53 | Phaos | Item kit project updated! http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/4739-attachment-and-item-kits-project/#p1 |
| 08:36.55 | Phaos | rawr!!! |
| 08:36.58 | mattavich-377 | have to do the SET, then the GET, then the MATH |
| 08:37.11 | mattavich-377 | it is always very long |
| 08:37.15 | Rodrigo | "To contribute with your present fucked-upness is what fucks you" |
| 08:37.28 | lordnk | that is what you'd have to do anyway |
| 08:37.30 | Rodrigo | what fucks you in a elegant way |
| 08:37.44 | mattavich-377 | Phaos you give us this on 12 hours before contest deadline??? -_- :P |
| 08:37.53 | lordnk | Rodrigo being fucked in an elegant way, that is boring |
| 08:37.58 | Phaos | yes :D |
| 08:38.00 | mattavich-377 | Lord, not if a custom function copied the set for a get |
| 08:38.01 | mattavich-377 | lol |
| 08:38.01 | lordnk | are you from eu or not? |
| 08:38.01 | Phaos | woooo |
| 08:38.03 | Rodrigo | lol lordnk |
| 08:38.08 | mattavich-377 | and then created a simple function for % |
| 08:38.13 | Rodrigo | I just loved that word: fucked-upness |
| 08:38.14 | Otixa | Phaos >=[ |
| 08:38.17 | Otixa | You bastard! |
| 08:38.20 | Otixa | stabs Phaos |
| 08:38.22 | Phaos | what aboot me :D ? |
| 08:38.28 | Phaos | I'm awesome I know! |
| 08:38.28 | lordnk | well yes, why not function to return the value? |
| 08:38.31 | Otixa | Where've you been? >:[ |
| 08:38.39 | Phaos | doing adult things GAWSG |
| 08:38.41 | Phaos | H |
| 08:38.43 | Phaos | GAWSH |
| 08:38.47 | Phaos | shhh |
| 08:38.56 | Phaos | failed ... |
| 08:38.58 | Phaos | :( |
| 08:38.59 | Otixa | Also, about the thread |
| 08:39.01 | Phaos | Spam |
| 08:39.02 | Tehwildcard | You went outside? |
| 08:39.04 | Otixa | You're fucking insane xD |
| 08:39.10 | Phaos | yay :D |
| 08:39.13 | Phaos | Insanity! |
| 08:39.52 | mattavich-377 | Phaos this is free to use yes? |
| 08:39.52 | Otixa | Also, I forgot why I needed you ¬_¬ |
| 08:39.52 | lordnk | mattavich-377, function addperc(value, percentage) { return math(value*(1+(percentage/10))) } |
| 08:39.53 | lordnk | ? |
| 08:39.55 | SycoPrime | Helral: Regarding your library, would be nice to have a function that determines if a unit is an item, if that's possible. |
| 08:40.01 | mattavich-377 | As in, changable, editable, do anythign with it? |
| 08:40.07 | Otixa | lordnk, 50 bux |
| 08:40.16 | mattavich-377 | I'm not that good with custom stuff lord :s |
| 08:40.17 | Phaos | Of course it's free. it's for the wonderful people of the SC2 modding community! |
| 08:40.21 | mattavich-377 | I just get things to work |
| 08:40.26 | Otixa | elbows Phaos |
| 08:40.31 | Phaos | oh |
| 08:40.31 | Phaos | err |
| 08:40.36 | Phaos | $100 dollars >.> |
| 08:40.37 | Otixa | What Phaos means is - You must pay 50bux to Otixa |
| 08:40.40 | SycoPrime | Otixa: You charge more for sc2 libraries than your body? |
| 08:40.52 | Otixa | smacks SycoPrime |
| 08:40.57 | Otixa | I haz no body |
| 08:40.58 | mattavich-377 | My favourite phrase right now is "prozzie wash" |
| 08:41.10 | mattavich-377 | Anyone form UK should understand |
| 08:41.13 | Otixa | Oh ye |
| 08:41.22 | Otixa | Phaos, need to talk to you about hardsurface shiz |
| 08:41.26 | Otixa | goes to PM |
| 08:41.30 | Phaos | oh shi- |
| 08:41.59 | Rodrigo | This book is awesome. Look at this sentence: "He was our Sauron, our Arawn, our Darkseid, our Once and Future Dictator, a personaje so outlandish, so perverse, so dreadful that not even a sci-fi write could have made his ass up." And my 60-years-old teacher asked me to read that O.o |
| 08:42.54 | mattavich-377 | Tell him you're reading twilight new moon instead |
| 08:42.59 | Rodrigo | LOL |
| 08:43.14 | SycoPrime | So I'm hoping to get some opinions on this: I wanted to have units in cargo without hiding the "armor", "weapons", etc. from the UI, and without making a completely custom UI. The short answer turned out to be the old "create a cockpit area and teleport stuff there" trick. I was wondering if anyone had any input as to the design of the cockpit area -- whether it should be up on a high cliff, buried down in low cliff, inside of it |
| 08:43.28 | Rodrigo | I read Diary of a Wimpy Kid these days, and I have to confess that the book is awesome. |
| 08:46.30 | Tofu | I really dont understand these requirements sometimes. |
| 08:46.39 | Tofu | whats the point of "complete only at unit" |
| 08:46.49 | Tofu | if the other version "complete" |
| 08:47.06 | Tofu | is not checking for any versions |
| 08:47.09 | Tofu | on all units |
| 08:47.32 | Sevenix | hm, what is the difference in behaviours between Damage dealt Scaled/Unscaled? |
| 08:47.48 | Sevenix | does scale = % ? =) |
| 08:48.01 | IskatuMesk | Otixa > ignoring the normal map that needs fixing, any ideas why the faces on the back toes are flipping out? http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5544/terrain006i.jpg |
| 08:48.46 | IskatuMesk | for the life of me I can't figure out why they do that... probably another exporter bug of some nature but what incites it I don't know |
| 08:48.51 | Otixa | ...Antharas :| |
| 08:48.55 | IskatuMesk | ye |
| 08:49.06 | Otixa | No idea, toss me the model in PM |
| 08:49.21 | IskatuMesk | the model is relatively large for some reason |
| 08:49.28 | IskatuMesk | but ok |
| 08:49.46 | IskatuMesk | also export times are rather long |
| 08:50.04 | IskatuMesk | so don't try to export it unless you know what you're getting into :p |
| 08:50.21 | Otixa | Just send me the m3 :P |
| 08:50.27 | IskatuMesk | k |
| 08:50.58 | Rodrigo | "The moon is a stain that God had forgotten to clean" O.o This book is retarded |
| 08:51.51 | IskatuMesk | and yes it is scaled enormously large |
| 08:51.59 | IskatuMesk | can't rescale or the anims flip out |
| 08:52.08 | IskatuMesk | in the editor I have it resized to about 0.02 or so |
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| 08:53.06 | IskatuMesk | otixa > pm sent |
| 08:53.49 | Rodrigo | forget what I said. This book has 3 F words per page |
| 08:53.53 | Otixa | kk, gonna take a look in a min |
| 08:54.43 | HR_ | man i really wish i could enter the contest... |
| 08:54.54 | Otixa | That's pretty fucking huge ;/ |
| 08:54.58 | IskatuMesk | yes |
| 08:55.00 | IskatuMesk | yes it is |
| 08:55.12 | HR_ | do you guys that have seen my map think i would have any chance really, or should i quit sweatin it |
| 08:55.28 | HR_ | top 3, thats near impossible right |
| 08:55.38 | HR_ | tell me i had no chance, pls |
| 08:55.48 | IskatuMesk | I like watching people sweat |
| 08:55.49 | Tofu | stop looking for a way out. its your call. |
| 08:55.49 | HR_ | have u guys played my map? lol |
| 08:55.58 | HR_ | i already released it tho |
| 08:56.08 | Tofu | seems unwise. |
| 08:56.15 | HR_ | so i cant enter... unless i made some major changes |
| 08:56.39 | Tofu | no one here is blizzard. no one here can tell you if you are fucked or not. |
| 08:56.41 | Otixa | Dumdidum... |
| 08:56.49 | Otixa | waits for it to ---nvm, imported |
| 08:57.07 | Rodrigo | the book says he became a nerd and "did not kiss another girl for a long time. Everything he had in the girl department had burned up that one fucking week" |
| 08:57.19 | Rodrigo | pretty strong book suggested by a grandmother |
| 08:57.35 | Rodrigo | I thought she would suggest me that boring books |
| 08:57.47 | IskatuMesk | does it flip out when it imports? |
| 08:57.51 | Rodrigo | but the gramma suggested me books with the word fuck 3 times per page |
| 08:58.01 | Otixa | Well, thar's yer problem |
| 08:58.09 | IskatuMesk | hm? |
| 08:58.11 | Otixa | says in a plumber-like voice |
| 09:00.30 | Otixa | Your surface normals are made of lol and cake |
| 09:00.31 | IskatuMesk | lol |
| 09:00.31 | Otixa | lemme see if I can remedy that |
| 09:00.31 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 09:00.31 | Otixa | none of the verts are welded |
| 09:00.31 | Rodrigo | the boy "was famous for masturbating in public" O.o |
| 09:00.31 | IskatuMesk | .... what |
| 09:00.32 | IskatuMesk | @ both of you |
| 09:00.32 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 09:00.32 | Otixa | Mesk, send me the textures |
| 09:00.58 | IskatuMesk | huh, verts look welded to me |
| 09:01.01 | IskatuMesk | ok one sec |
| 09:02.30 | Rodrigo | "She might not have been good at much -- not sports, not school, not work -- but she was good at men." |
| 09:02.38 | Rodrigo | The author is describing a prostitute |
| 09:03.02 | IskatuMesk | sent |
| 09:03.57 | Otixa | got it |
| 09:04.12 | Rodrigo | what the heck is a "French-kissing?" |
| 09:04.31 | Otixa | Rodrigo, you're too young to know |
| 09:04.33 | Otixa | Now shudup |
| 09:04.38 | Rodrigo | =/ |
| 09:05.48 | Rodrigo | lol, he called his girlfriend to watch him paint his D&d miniatures and read Stephen King |
| 09:06.22 | Otixa | Mesk, I don't think that importing this into SC2 is a very good idea :/ |
| 09:06.25 | Rodrigo | "The only thing that changed this year was the model of the cars and the size of her ass" |
| 09:06.55 | Rodrigo | jesus, im laughing at each sentence, sorry. |
| 09:07.10 | IskatuMesk | why |
| 09:07.16 | IskatuMesk | because it's monstrously overscaled? |
| 09:07.31 | Otixa | And too highpoly :P |
| 09:07.35 | IskatuMesk | lol' |
| 09:07.40 | Otixa | And it's still importing |
| 09:07.42 | IskatuMesk | 13k tri is not high poly bro :( |
| 09:07.50 | Otixa | 13k? ;o |
| 09:07.53 | IskatuMesk | it does take its time to export though |
| 09:07.56 | Otixa | Looked like a lot more <_< |
| 09:08.02 | IskatuMesk | that's what max is telling me |
| 09:08.03 | Otixa | 13k is fine |
| 09:08.20 | IskatuMesk | the exporter does make a few more for smoothing though I think |
| 09:08.35 | IskatuMesk | though smoothing only works with one of the texturs |
| 09:08.36 | Otixa | shouldn't |
| 09:09.01 | Otixa | finally |
| 09:09.07 | Otixa | 4min import :/ |
| 09:09.18 | Rodrigo | "he walked into school every day like the fat lonely nerdy kid he was" |
| 09:09.19 | IskatuMesk | let'see if I can fix the textures |
| 09:09.25 | IskatuMesk | one of my exports was 171 minutes |
| 09:09.33 | Otixa | Man, the diffuse texture is so good... |
| 09:10.01 | Otixa | The moment of truth |
| 09:10.10 | Otixa | Can I fix it without breaking animations? :D |
| 09:10.32 | vjeux | what model are you working on Otixa ? |
| 09:10.36 | Rodrigo | "Don't you worry, when you have kids they won't know the US occupied Iraq either" |
| 09:11.09 | IskatuMesk | hmmm the texture is less glossy but still glossy |
| 09:11.18 | Otixa | Success :D |
| 09:11.19 | IskatuMesk | this is going to take a fair bit of experimenting |
| 09:11.23 | IskatuMesk | o rly |
| 09:11.27 | IskatuMesk | what did you do |
| 09:11.29 | Otixa | vjeux, just helping Mesk with his Antharas port :P |
| 09:11.39 | Otixa | Mesk, hold on, I'm not sure if it's fixed yet |
| 09:11.43 | Otixa | need to look at it ingame |
| 09:11.51 | vjeux | http://www.bladenknight.com/resources/antharas_pappi2.jpg |
| 09:11.52 | vjeux | this? |
| 09:11.56 | IskatuMesk | the export will take a VERY long time :P |
| 09:12.01 | Otixa | vjeux, ye |
| 09:12.04 | Otixa | http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5544/terrain006i.jpg |
| 09:12.06 | vjeux | omg this looks so cool! |
| 09:12.21 | Otixa | Indeed |
| 09:12.24 | Otixa | I love Antharas |
| 09:12.26 | Otixa | Best boss ever |
| 09:12.30 | IskatuMesk | I have valakas and such as well |
| 09:12.39 | IskatuMesk | pretty much everything |
| 09:12.44 | Otixa | Also, got the model down to 10k tris |
| 09:12.49 | Otixa | Well, just a smidge over 10k |
| 09:12.54 | IskatuMesk | nothing has freaked out like that though |
| 09:13.00 | Rodrigo | That dragon is awesome. I want to add it as the Platorm Defense's Pokeling. |
| 09:13.10 | IskatuMesk | would help to know how to fix it in case another one breaks |
| 09:13.19 | IskatuMesk | I don't plan to release the models :P |
| 09:13.31 | Rodrigo | =/ |
| 09:13.36 | Otixa | Mesk, they're not technically yours <_< |
| 09:13.39 | IskatuMesk | no |
| 09:13.40 | Rodrigo | it would make a nice Pokeling for my map |
| 09:13.46 | IskatuMesk | but I put a ton of work into getting them into this stage |
| 09:13.59 | Otixa | fair enuff :P |
| 09:14.07 | IskatuMesk | plus |
| 09:14.20 | IskatuMesk | publishing a map with one of these is waaaay more likely to get you in trouble than a WoW port |
| 09:14.29 | Otixa | hrm... there's something weird with a polygon on its thigh |
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| 09:15.29 | Otixa | ah well |
| 09:15.33 | Otixa | let's see if it works |
| 09:16.54 | Tofu | so I have an ability, it can be learned at a hero. On ANOTHER unit I want to enable/disable behaviours based on the amount learned. |
| 09:17.12 | Dogmai | It will be interesting as to what information becomes public in another 24 hours |
| 09:17.15 | Otixa | waits for the export ;/ |
| 09:17.16 | Dogmai | After the competition is finished |
| 09:17.17 | Tofu | if it was the same unit I would be using "abilitycompleted at unit" |
| 09:17.32 | Tofu | so I assumed it would be "ability completed" |
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| 09:17.36 | IskatuMesk | you'll be waiting a long time :( |
| 09:17.38 | Tofu | to test for it from another unit |
| 09:17.42 | Tofu | but its not :( |
| 09:17.45 | Tofu | what am I missing? |
| 09:17.49 | Otixa | export failed |
| 09:17.50 | Otixa | wtf. |
| 09:17.52 | IskatuMesk | wut |
| 09:18.11 | vjeux | how long does it take to export a 13k model? |
| 09:18.16 | Otixa | Cannot convert unknown type to something |
| 09:18.27 | Otixa | vjeux, OVER 9000 seconds ;/ |
| 09:18.34 | Tehwildcard | 2hrs til class and I'm about to pass out |
| 09:18.38 | Tehwildcard | not good |
| 09:18.54 | Otixa | yeh |
| 09:18.59 | Otixa | gives me an exporting error |
| 09:19.02 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 09:19.13 | vjeux | that's 2.5 hours!? |
| 09:19.22 | IskatuMesk | 171 minutes was my longest export |
| 09:19.27 | IskatuMesk | of this model |
| 09:19.33 | IskatuMesk | because of the animations probably |
| 09:19.56 | IskatuMesk | what did you do to supposedly fix them? I can try to do it here |
| 09:20.00 | IskatuMesk | weld? |
| 09:20.17 | Otixa | pretty much ye |
| 09:20.20 | Otixa | and unify normals |
| 09:20.34 | IskatuMesk | if you leave the edit normals in the stack it errors |
| 09:20.45 | IskatuMesk | and if you collapse everything explodes |
| 09:20.52 | Otixa | huh? |
| 09:20.58 | Otixa | I didn't add any modifiers |
| 09:21.18 | IskatuMesk | how did you unify the normals then |
| 09:21.41 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 09:21.48 | Otixa | I pressed Unify |
| 09:22.19 | IskatuMesk | ...oh |
| 09:22.21 | IskatuMesk | herp derp |
| 09:22.54 | IskatuMesk | ok, mine's exporting |
| 09:22.59 | Otixa | :/ |
| 09:23.03 | Otixa | I call hax |
| 09:23.17 | Otixa | Mine exports for a bit and then errors |
| 09:23.18 | IskatuMesk | now, will I pass out from exhaustion before it errors/finishes |
| 09:23.37 | IskatuMesk | how much did you weld? |
| 09:23.50 | Otixa | 0.01cm |
| 09:23.50 | IskatuMesk | stripping off 3k poly seems like a lot, I took off maybe 1k at most |
| 09:24.15 | Otixa | it didn't change the topology |
| 09:24.28 | Otixa | at least not in a way I could notice |
| 09:25.41 | IskatuMesk | I also don't think some of the stand animations I have set actually sync with the normal stand animation |
| 09:25.46 | IskatuMesk | it fidgets during some transitions |
| 09:26.36 | Otixa | Export failed |
| 09:26.48 | Otixa | Unable to convert: undefined type: StringStream |
| 09:26.55 | Otixa | wut? D: |
| 09:27.01 | IskatuMesk | weird |
| 09:27.08 | IskatuMesk | never gotten that one yet |
| 09:27.11 | IskatuMesk | mine's still chugging |
| 09:27.22 | HR_ | im seriously debating starting over with a new terrain and the same effect, so that i can enter the contest |
| 09:27.32 | IskatuMesk | if this fixes the feet then I can focus on making the normals not glossy... but everything in sc2 looks glossy... so dunno :\ |
| 09:28.05 | IskatuMesk | brought down the spec/HDR to like... 25/1 |
| 09:28.20 | HR_ | nah, i doubt theres any chance i would win anyway... |
| 09:28.38 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:29.05 | Otixa | imma apply Xoliul shader to it for kicks and giggles |
| 09:29.19 | Otixa | and pretend it's eating polygons in the scene |
| 09:29.20 | Otixa | :D |
| 09:29.50 | IskatuMesk | lol |
| 09:31.32 | Otixa | Actually |
| 09:31.40 | Otixa | What version of the exported are you using? |
| 09:31.51 | IskatuMesk | script file is like... 0.20 |
| 09:32.39 | IskatuMesk | yes, 0.20 |
| 09:32.47 | IskatuMesk | not sure what that makes the set |
| 09:33.04 | Otixa | same as mine then ;/ |
| 09:33.29 | vjeux | harass nin so he fixes it :p |
| 09:33.57 | ekcolnovkol|weep | lol vjay |
| 09:34.16 | ekcolnovkol|weep | after you updated, people from EU started doing bug reports that were reported by NA players weeks and weeks ago |
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| 09:34.24 | ekcolnovkol|weep | xD |
| 09:34.28 | Rodrigo | ecko, I visited ur website for the first time today |
| 09:34.33 | ekcolnovkol|weep | orly |
| 09:34.36 | Rodrigo | that was very good :) |
| 09:34.39 | ekcolnovkol|weep | yer |
| 09:34.41 | Rodrigo | lots of work :P |
| 09:34.42 | IskatuMesk | I've already harassed him quite a lot in his thread lol |
| 09:34.45 | ekcolnovkol|weep | srs bsns |
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| 09:36.55 | Rodrigo | ekcol, would u sent SotiS to the map contest? |
| 09:38.23 | rooj | just won a 4v4 in 0:35 |
| 09:38.28 | rooj | cause the other team left o_O |
| 09:38.47 | Rodrigo | I lost burning tide with 14,745 minerals |
| 09:39.25 | vjeux | rooj: that's a fast 6 pool rush! |
| 09:39.36 | rooj | heh |
| 09:40.10 | Rodrigo | I wont a game attacking my probes once |
| 09:40.12 | Rodrigo | won* |
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| 09:40.36 | Helral|Work | I won every game against cheese so far. |
| 09:40.42 | Rodrigo | the video is actually on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmwQLNvKKFQ |
| 09:43.36 | Otixa | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/SC2/antharaslol.jpg |
| 09:43.36 | Otixa | lol |
| 09:44.08 | vjeux | is the tail supposed to be there? |
| 09:44.08 | Rodrigo | If blizzard wants Burning Tide popular, better than switch the winning minerals to 1,000 |
| 09:44.34 | Otixa | vjeux, what do ya mean? :P |
| 09:44.36 | Rodrigo | better they* |
| 09:44.44 | vjeux | Rodrigo: is Burning Tide "stickied" in the NA servers? |
| 09:44.53 | Rodrigo | not anymore |
| 09:44.56 | IskatuMesk | see now those normals look perfect |
| 09:44.58 | Rodrigo | but the map is not popular |
| 09:45.11 | vjeux | Otixa: the mob has the tail inside his body |
| 09:45.21 | Otixa | IskatuMesk, because that's a 3ds viewport grab :P |
| 09:45.28 | Rodrigo | Burning Tide will never be popular. It's just too big |
| 09:45.29 | vjeux | or what i believe is its tail |
| 09:45.34 | Otixa | vjeux, naw, that's just the camera angle |
| 09:45.52 | Otixa | It's actually a giant cock xD |
| 09:45.52 | vjeux | ok |
| 09:45.55 | vjeux | OL |
| 09:45.57 | vjeux | l |
| 09:46.12 | vjeux | so yeah ,that's epic :) |
| 09:46.18 | Otixa | quite |
| 09:46.26 | Rodrigo | vjeux, what level did u die at Platform Defense? :P |
| 09:46.35 | vjeux | 5 |
| 09:46.44 | Rodrigo | I played today with a friends. We survived until level 28 |
| 09:46.50 | Rodrigo | 5? Interceptors? |
| 09:46.51 | Otixa | IskatuMesk, so, did it work? |
| 09:46.52 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 09:47.03 | vjeux | we were 3 |
| 09:47.03 | Rodrigo | 4 turrets and you kill all interceptors |
| 09:47.06 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 09:47.07 | IskatuMesk | as I said, the exports take a VERY long time |
| 09:47.13 | Otixa | :/ |
| 09:47.13 | IskatuMesk | it hasn't errored yet, at least |
| 09:47.15 | vjeux | and ... made mass zealots :p |
| 09:47.19 | IskatuMesk | so it will likely finish |
| 09:47.20 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 09:47.25 | IskatuMesk | whether it will be fixed, I don't know |
| 09:47.26 | Rodrigo | did u see my pokeling? :D |
| 09:47.31 | vjeux | nope |
| 09:47.34 | Rodrigo | O.o |
| 09:47.35 | Rodrigo | how not |
| 09:47.40 | Rodrigo | it follows the king |
| 09:47.43 | Otixa | Should be, now that the normals are all facing the right way |
| 09:47.48 | vjeux | oh that's a pokeling! :p |
| 09:47.49 | IskatuMesk | if this doesn't fix it I guess I'll have to wait for an exporter update, or blizzard's tools |
| 09:47.52 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 09:47.54 | Helral|Work | vjeux: the zergling |
| 09:47.56 | Otixa | But eh... Shit tends not to work when combined with SC2 |
| 09:48.00 | Otixa | So... ;/ |
| 09:48.00 | IskatuMesk | yeah |
| 09:48.02 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 09:48.10 | vjeux | I didn't know that was your map. i played it during the beta :) |
| 09:48.13 | Rodrigo | vjeux, I dont know if you realize, but the pokeling gets stronger and bigger when he eats the enemies. |
| 09:48.20 | vjeux | lol :p |
| 09:48.28 | Rodrigo | we died at level 28 |
| 09:48.31 | Helral|Work | is it a butcher? "Ahhh fresh meat" |
| 09:48.34 | Rodrigo | my pokeling was 4x the size of my hero |
| 09:49.02 | Otixa | Eh... Guess I've no need for the model anymore :/ |
| 09:49.04 | vjeux | how many levels are there? |
| 09:49.08 | Otixa | sighs and closes the scene |
| 09:49.15 | Rodrigo | 32, I guess |
| 09:49.15 | Sevenix | anyone know how to pick all elements in a variable matrix? |
| 09:49.18 | Otixa | Otixa is sad :< |
| 09:49.22 | Sevenix | [:] didnt work =/ |
| 09:49.32 | vjeux | matrix[1][2] |
| 09:49.33 | Rodrigo | we died at battlecruisers |
| 09:49.41 | Otixa | Teh matrix hax you |
| 09:49.46 | Sevenix | vjeux that only gives me 1 element |
| 09:49.55 | Sevenix | I want all the elements in matrix[1] |
| 09:50.04 | Otixa | gets flashbacks of linear algebra lectures |
| 09:50.08 | vjeux | you want the type? |
| 09:50.09 | Otixa | shudders |
| 09:50.13 | Rodrigo | than, theres dark templars.... mass sentries..... final boss you just have to survive for 2 min with mass motherships |
| 09:50.17 | Sevenix | just dont know the galaxy syntax for [all] |
| 09:50.23 | Helral|Work | Sevenix: well you need to walk through all the single values. |
| 09:50.28 | Sevenix | .. |
| 09:50.32 | vjeux | int[100][100] matrix; |
| 09:50.37 | Otixa | There is no [all], nubhat |
| 09:50.53 | vjeux | you can use blabla( int[100] row |
| 09:50.54 | vjeux | ) |
| 09:50.56 | Sevenix | I got a 2x25 matrix with dialog items, I want to change the color of them in pairs. |
| 09:50.57 | Otixa | No language I can think of has such a construct |
| 09:50.59 | vjeux | and pass it matrix[1] |
| 09:51.06 | ReckeD | When a trigger is run but check its conditions and fails, does that create much network traffic |
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| 09:51.23 | vjeux | BUT that will be fucking expansive since it's going to copy everything |
| 09:51.24 | Sevenix | I can do it by simply having 2 triggers, one for[x][1] and one for [x][2] |
| 09:51.29 | Sevenix | but that is naughty |
| 09:51.44 | vjeux | and there aren't any way to pass by reference |
| 09:51.55 | Otixa | vjeux, afaik, you can't pass an array as a variable in SC2 ;o |
| 09:52.02 | vjeux | you can |
| 09:52.09 | Otixa | oh |
| 09:52.10 | vjeux | you have to know the exact size of it |
| 09:52.16 | vjeux | but ... all the array gets copied |
| 09:52.21 | vjeux | and that's probably not what you want |
| 09:52.30 | Otixa | gief pointers ¬_¬ |
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| 09:52.47 | vjeux | yeah :( |
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| 09:52.49 | Otixa | and malloc |
| 09:52.52 | Helral|Work | you can't pass references :( |
| 09:52.58 | Helral|Work | Gief References. |
| 09:53.10 | Otixa | References and malloc are all we need for epic :P |
| 09:53.14 | vjeux | yup |
| 09:53.18 | Otixa | And sizeof, I guess |
| 09:53.20 | vjeux | and casting! |
| 09:53.24 | Otixa | XD |
| 09:53.27 | Otixa | and cake |
| 09:53.30 | Otixa | and linked lists |
| 09:53.40 | Otixa | and vectors |
| 09:53.42 | Otixa | and and |
| 09:53.44 | Otixa | ... <_< |
| 09:53.45 | Helral|Work | vjeux: you can do some sort of casting already. :P I can cast from string to File - Image. |
| 09:54.07 | Otixa | You can cast spells :P |
| 09:54.08 | vjeux | you are casting into a GUI type |
| 09:54.09 | vjeux | so cool :p |
| 09:54.11 | Helral|Work | it's just not handy as normal casting. |
| 09:54.20 | Helral|Work | I always used the GUI :P |
| 09:54.36 | vjeux | File - Image is string underneath |
| 09:54.38 | Helral|Work | but Real to Int casting isn't nice (just like the GUI type casting) |
| 09:54.52 | Tofu | *still looking for some help with requirements* |
| 09:54.55 | Otixa | If we ever get malloc |
| 09:55.04 | Helral|Work | I know, but you can't say: set dialog image to String. it needs to be the correct GUI type. :S |
| 09:55.18 | Otixa | I'll be a dick and allocate like 2gigs of memory |
| 09:55.21 | Otixa | just because |
| 09:55.22 | Otixa | ;p |
| 09:55.24 | vjeux | and? |
| 09:55.36 | vjeux | that won't hurt anyone :p |
| 09:55.52 | Otixa | I'll fill it with random data, just in case :P |
| 09:55.56 | vjeux | xD |
| 09:56.09 | vjeux | but even if we get a malloc |
| 09:56.15 | Otixa | like "I like cake" a million times should do it :P |
| 09:56.19 | Helral|Work | note to self, avoid Otixa's maps if we get malloc. |
| 09:56.24 | Otixa | xD |
| 09:56.28 | vjeux | i'm sure they will limit it with huge limitations |
| 09:56.34 | vjeux | something like 2meg memory -_- |
| 09:56.38 | Helral|Work | activates stab deflector. |
| 09:56.38 | Otixa | True ;/ |
| 09:56.43 | Otixa | 2megs are plenty tho |
| 09:57.04 | Otixa | I'll prolly mostly use malloc for dynamic arrays |
| 09:57.05 | Otixa | So eh |
| 09:57.25 | IskatuMesk | wut is malloc |
| 09:57.27 | Helral|Work | but references is all I need. |
| 09:57.37 | Otixa | Actually, if we get propr stuff |
| 09:57.39 | Helral|Work | I don't care that much about malloc :P |
| 09:57.47 | Otixa | I'll write a library of generic stuff |
| 09:57.51 | vjeux | Helral|Work: you require casting |
| 09:57.53 | Otixa | strpos, substr, etc. |
| 09:58.00 | Otixa | you know what I mean :P |
| 09:58.10 | Helral|Work | only to cast from what I get from the catalogs to usable gui format |
| 09:58.12 | Otixa | IskatuMesk, memory allocation func |
| 09:58.49 | Helral|Work | but I can fake that casting, since you can create a function with the correct GUI return value. |
| 09:58.51 | vjeux | if only we could have void* |
| 09:59.02 | Helral|Work | vjeux: void? |
| 09:59.15 | vjeux | all our problems would vanish |
| 09:59.28 | Otixa | pass functions as args? ;p |
| 09:59.57 | Helral|Work | well you can pass triggers as args :P why not functions as well? |
| 10:00.02 | vjeux | being able to allocate a big buffer |
| 10:00.19 | Otixa | Fuck that, give me lambda constructs |
| 10:00.21 | Otixa | HOOAHHHH |
| 10:00.33 | Helral|Work | give me a correct for loop. |
| 10:00.34 | IskatuMesk | so much confusing programmy speek |
| 10:00.35 | Otixa | I'll make shit so dynamic, your brains will drip out of your eye sockets |
| 10:00.42 | vjeux | and then allocate resources as you want |
| 10:01.07 | Otixa | IskatuMesk, we're on a trip to wishy-wishy land ;/ |
| 10:01.07 | vjeux | but we can't just say the 2nd element is an int, the 3rd and 4r is a string ... |
| 10:01.26 | vjeux | so can't implement any malloc :( |
| 10:01.30 | Otixa | vjeux, might aswell just have structs then ;p |
| 10:01.48 | Otixa | And classes |
| 10:01.53 | Otixa | and namespaces |
| 10:01.56 | Otixa | ... <_< |
| 10:01.59 | vjeux | andromeda! |
| 10:02.10 | Otixa | wut |
| 10:02.43 | Otixa | Oh, and I want sockets |
| 10:02.46 | Otixa | :D |
| 10:02.50 | vjeux | just having the possibility to arbitrary cast things |
| 10:02.59 | vjeux | would allow us to have dynamic memory |
| 10:03.16 | Otixa | write stuff to 0xC0FFEE? :P |
| 10:03.34 | vjeux | more at |
| 10:03.37 | vjeux | buffer[240] |
| 10:03.37 | Otixa | set it to true :D |
| 10:03.49 | vjeux | but yeah |
| 10:03.53 | vjeux | could implement our own malloc |
| 10:04.04 | Otixa | ugh |
| 10:04.10 | Otixa | I sense bad ._. |
| 10:04.15 | vjeux | what? |
| 10:04.33 | Otixa | "own" and "malloc" on the same line :P |
| 10:04.34 | mattavich-377 | Guys |
| 10:04.44 | mattavich-377 | how can i simply add one models to another? |
| 10:04.52 | vjeux | well, I already implemented one on a school project |
| 10:04.56 | vjeux | it's quite easy |
| 10:04.56 | Otixa | Same way you shot web, mate |
| 10:05.06 | vjeux | and efficient |
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| 10:05.12 | mattavich-377 | wtf is shot web? |
| 10:05.25 | Otixa | meme ;p |
| 10:05.34 | Otixa | vjeux, what are you studying anyway? |
| 10:05.40 | vjeux | computer science |
| 10:05.45 | Otixa | hax |
| 10:05.46 | mattavich-377 | makes no sense |
| 10:06.01 | vjeux | http://www.epita.fr/ |
| 10:06.20 | Otixa | Chrome > French |
| 10:06.20 | Otixa | :D |
| 10:06.41 | vjeux | so yeah you just enable back pointers and allow arbitrary casting |
| 10:06.54 | vjeux | and you have the ability to have dynamic memory |
| 10:07.01 | vjeux | which is how it's done in C |
| 10:07.24 | Otixa | Let's poke Blizz about it |
| 10:07.38 | Otixa | I have found that everything is possible with enough nagging and bitching |
| 10:07.57 | vjeux | a big update for the triggers is coming in the next patch |
| 10:08.14 | Otixa | Will we get a goddamn for loop? ;p |
| 10:08.32 | vjeux | I heard it'll be possible to code directly in galaxy |
| 10:08.45 | Otixa | It is right now <_< |
| 10:09.00 | vjeux | inside the editor/ |
| 10:09.01 | vjeux | ? |
| 10:09.07 | Otixa | If you go to the importer or something |
| 10:09.07 | Tehwildcard | negative |
| 10:09.09 | Helral|Work | vjeux: you can add a custom script bit instead of a trigger. |
| 10:09.15 | Otixa | And check show something |
| 10:09.19 | vjeux | yeah but it's not integrated |
| 10:09.20 | Otixa | And you can see the galaxy file |
| 10:09.22 | vjeux | and really hacky :p |
| 10:09.39 | Otixa | And what Helral|Work said, if you wanna be boring |
| 10:09.52 | Otixa | CreateTrigger() and add an event to it |
| 10:09.53 | Otixa | npkk |
| 10:10.11 | Otixa | takes function name as an argument |
| 10:10.44 | ReckeD | does an ability have to have an effect for a computer to use it? |
| 10:10.49 | vjeux | something user friendly :) |
| 10:10.50 | ReckeD | if its set to auto-cast |
| 10:11.08 | Otixa | User? Friendly? >:| |
| 10:11.14 | Otixa | We don't do friendly! |
| 10:11.26 | Otixa | We may do users tho, if they're sufficiently hot |
| 10:11.30 | Otixa | :> |
| 10:12.09 | Helral|Work | ReckeD: don't think so, just set the autocast stuff correctly, or was it the AI stuff.... can't quite remember. |
| 10:12.19 | ReckeD | hmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 10:12.40 | ReckeD | trying to optimise my map to reduce lag by having unit abilities turn triggers on =/ |
| 10:12.58 | Otixa | btw |
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| 10:13.08 | Otixa | vjeux, Tinman say anything about CL today? |
| 10:13.21 | vjeux | Xaragoth said it was happening |
| 10:13.32 | Otixa | mkay then |
| 10:13.41 | Otixa | Should prolly go pack my shit then ¬_¬ |
| 10:13.52 | Otixa | Got a plane to catch in 5AM ;/ |
| 10:14.05 | vjeux | :X |
| 10:14.35 | Helral|Work | anyone got some suggestions for me to work on with this idea: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/trigger-libraries/11078-library-easy-catalog-wip/ |
| 10:14.52 | Helral|Work | please post them at the thread :P else I'll forget them XD |
| 10:15.07 | vjeux|work | oh Btw rodrigo put a link to sc2mapster on your map loading screens! |
| 10:15.19 | Rodrigo | vjeux, you are reading my mind |
| 10:15.23 | Otixa | Helral|Work, I can post :D |
| 10:15.36 | Rodrigo | I was writing the line "thanks to sc2mapster" EXACTLY when you sent me this |
| 10:15.39 | vjeux|work | :p |
| 10:15.40 | Otixa | CONSTRUCTIVE POST INCOMING |
| 10:15.54 | Rodrigo | but on Debates. I will add one on Platform Defense |
| 10:15.57 | Rodrigo | by the way |
| 10:16.02 | Rodrigo | I had one on Platform Defense |
| 10:16.06 | Otixa | Helral|Work, there you go :D |
| 10:16.11 | Helral|Work | hmmmm |
| 10:16.12 | Rodrigo | but the map editor erased my loading screen |
| 10:16.16 | Rodrigo | and I lost |
| 10:16.17 | Helral|Work | very ...... portally |
| 10:16.20 | Rodrigo | so I wrote other things |
| 10:16.24 | Rodrigo | I will write again |
| 10:16.24 | Otixa | :> |
| 10:16.26 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 10:16.32 | Helral|Work | Otixa: the Cake is a lie XD |
| 10:16.38 | Otixa | ... |
| 10:16.41 | Otixa | ... >=[ |
| 10:16.45 | Otixa | punches Helral|Work |
| 10:16.46 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 10:16.50 | Helral|Work | ouch |
| 10:17.00 | Otixa | Cake! >:| |
| 10:17.11 | Helral|Work | it's a lie |
| 10:17.12 | Otixa | There really was a cake ¬_¬ |
| 10:17.13 | Helral|Work | ducks |
| 10:17.27 | Otixa | sends lurkers after Helral|Work |
| 10:17.27 | Helral|Work | ow no punch incoming? |
| 10:17.41 | Helral|Work | levitates to annoy the lurkers. |
| 10:17.44 | Helral|Work | XD |
| 10:17.54 | Otixa | sends a control of Phoenixes |
| 10:18.05 | Helral|Work | pets the phoenixes |
| 10:18.10 | Otixa | >:| |
| 10:18.28 | Helral|Work | they're cute birds... |
| 10:19.16 | Helral|Work | jumps onto the back of a phoenix and goes to sleep. |
| 10:19.18 | Otixa | lol, watching ZeldaCraft vid :D |
| 10:19.26 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 10:20.27 | Otixa | needs better music tbh |
| 10:20.38 | Otixa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAZVEWP621k |
| 10:21.10 | Otixa | Needs this music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beRjqVb0pzU |
| 10:21.11 | Otixa | :D |
| 10:22.19 | Helral|Work | Otixa: I updated the library post I made :P |
| 10:22.28 | Helral|Work | to reply to your "constructive" post. |
| 10:22.47 | Otixa | .... |
| 10:22.50 | Otixa | >:| |
| 10:22.53 | Otixa | FFFFFUUUUUUUUUU |
| 10:22.55 | Otixa | explodes |
| 10:22.57 | Helral|Work | actives reflectorshield |
| 10:23.03 | Helral|Work | activates* |
| 10:23.13 | Helral|Work | hahaha |
| 10:23.56 | Helral|Work | I cincerely (or however you write that annoying word) apologize for blowing up Otixa with my post adjustment XD |
| 10:24.06 | vjeux|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.10 | vjeux|work | 2 really nice videos! |
| 10:24.22 | mattavich-377 | I've added a model to a unit through triggers. Is there a way to position it a little better? |
| 10:24.52 | Otixa | vjeux|work, wut iz diz? |
| 10:25.06 | vjeux|work | Ring of Creation team's work |
| 10:25.27 | Otixa | The guys talking reminds me of Xar |
| 10:25.52 | Otixa | Except less understandable |
| 10:26.00 | vjeux|work | he's got a dark brother! |
| 10:26.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@c-76-126-227-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:26.37 | Otixa | :P |
| 10:26.59 | Saeris | otixa, mind helping me get an animation to work? |
| 10:27.07 | Otixa | :< |
| 10:27.10 | Saeris | if you can |
| 10:27.24 | Otixa | I'm not helpdesk, guys ;/ |
| 10:27.29 | Otixa | And I don't do animations |
| 10:27.38 | Otixa | ask Ulti or Phaos |
| 10:27.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster madsquare (~Admin@HSI-KBW-082-212-030-092.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 10:27.50 | Saeris | well you know more about custom models than i do >.< and i'm on a time crunch here |
| 10:28.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Huesy (~Huesy@124-168-93-9.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 10:28.32 | mattavich-377 | I've added a model to a unit through triggers. Is there a way to position it a little better? |
| 10:28.46 | Saeris | i've so far been successful in importing and attaching an aura model to my unit |
| 10:28.51 | Saeris | but it doesn't do it's animation |
| 10:30.19 | Otixa | I'll just go and shave while you're being exceptionally vague |
| 10:30.29 | Otixa | runs off before anyone else can stall him |
| 10:30.43 | vjeux|work | stabs Otixa |
| 10:31.13 | Saeris | sigh, this sucks. i can't sleep for another 20 hours still |
| 10:31.46 | Tofu | you still have 20 hours worth of work left? |
| 10:31.49 | Tofu | ouch |
| 10:32.03 | Saeris | yep |
| 10:32.23 | Saeris | needless to say, my map is a bit ambitious |
| 10:32.45 | Tofu | if you arent starting to polish pretty soon then its too late imo. |
| 10:32.48 | Tofu | crop crop crop |
| 10:33.11 | Huesy | Hopefully I can stay connected >.< |
| 10:33.19 | Saeris | but it mostly comes down to pounding out a few core bugs, and adding even more polish. there's a ton of that already |
| 10:33.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster thenk (nk@124.150.53.44) |
| 10:33.54 | Huesy | "I wouldn't mind losing my hand trying to lift a chalkboard." <- What the hell does that mean? |
| 10:35.49 | Saeris | basically if i can get this one animation to work, i can copy-paste most of this to the rest of my units. just need to specify one of the many animations i have ready |
| 10:37.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster shaLL (cebc72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.188.114.221) |
| 10:37.38 | shaLL | Hi, anyone home? |
| 10:37.46 | Tehwildcard | No one here |
| 10:37.47 | Saeris | FUCK YEAH figured it out! =D |
| 10:37.51 | shaLL | x.x |
| 10:37.51 | Saeris | sweeeet |
| 10:38.04 | shaLL | I have a simple question... |
| 10:38.16 | shaLL | How do I place a unit |
| 10:38.22 | HR_ | are there any fish, or crocodiles, or ANY kind of water unnit in the game |
| 10:38.23 | Tehwildcard | No, I will not have sex for money again |
| 10:38.23 | shaLL | On the map for a User |
| 10:38.36 | Tehwildcard | Are you in the terrain window? |
| 10:38.41 | Tehwildcard | Hit U to bring up units tab |
| 10:38.44 | shaLL | Unit window |
| 10:38.48 | Tehwildcard | then select player -> unit |
| 10:38.53 | shaLL | I see the selection of units |
| 10:38.55 | shaLL | Then I select one |
| 10:38.59 | shaLL | But when I go to place |
| 10:39.01 | shaLL | I cannot |
| 10:39.02 | HR_ | hit spacebar? |
| 10:39.07 | shaLL | Hmm |
| 10:39.11 | HR_ | spacebar switches between select and place |
| 10:39.15 | Tehwildcard | Is it red when you try to place it? |
| 10:39.31 | Tehwildcard | the whole model is red* |
| 10:39.32 | Tehwildcard | ? |
| 10:39.54 | shaLL | omg... it's working now |
| 10:39.57 | HR_ | can anyone think of any fish or water related units? |
| 10:39.58 | Tehwildcard | lol k |
| 10:39.59 | shaLL | For some odd reason it wasn't working |
| 10:40.04 | HR_ | spacebar ftw |
| 10:40.23 | shaLL | Well, I didn't spacebar.. but it worked now idk why |
| 10:40.36 | shaLL | Ok, thanks |
| 10:40.40 | shaLL | I think ^_^ |
| 10:40.50 | Tehwildcard | :P let us know if you need help with anything else |
| 10:43.29 | shaLL | Hmm trigger not working... o.o |
| 10:43.37 | shaLL | Tell me if something is wrong here... |
| 10:43.56 | shaLL | Condition: Text "Start" has been sent |
| 10:44.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Arthas-2 (~zet@ip3-100.bon.riksnet.se) |
| 10:44.28 | shaLL | Actions: General Repeat Actions forever > |
| 10:44.49 | Otixa | stabs vjeux|work |
| 10:44.52 | shaLL | Unit Create at location 1 |
| 10:44.57 | shaLL | Kill unit at 1 |
| 10:45.04 | shaLL | But nothing o.O? |
| 10:45.37 | thenk | kill unit at 1? |
| 10:45.49 | shaLL | The condition |
| 10:45.51 | shaLL | Text "Start" sent |
| 10:45.53 | thenk | i didn't know there was a 'text message has been sent' condition |
| 10:46.00 | shaLL | o.O |
| 10:46.16 | thenk | that is odd |
| 10:46.20 | shaLL | First time trying it |
| 10:46.27 | shaLL | Wondering if the user types it in |
| 10:46.33 | thenk | most things don't make logical sense in the editor |
| 10:46.33 | shaLL | To fufill it |
| 10:46.55 | IskatuMesk | I must sleep now, the export is still not done, so I'll see if it works tomorrow when I wake up |
| 10:47.02 | IskatuMesk | nyt |
| 10:47.02 | thenk | hrm.. |
| 10:47.10 | thenk | so i just checked, there isno 'text has been sent' condition |
| 10:47.12 | Otixa | bai mesk |
| 10:47.13 | thenk | the condition is 'text has been set' |
| 10:47.21 | shaLL | Hmm sec |
| 10:47.34 | thenk | it checks if you have set a variable |
| 10:47.52 | shaLL | When I double click the Conditions |
| 10:48.01 | shaLL | It shows a list and one of them is Text |
| 10:48.13 | shaLL | "Text has been sent" |
| 10:48.29 | Tehwildcard | What is your event? |
| 10:48.30 | thenk | yes, that dosen't mean 'player has sent text to chat channel' |
| 10:48.36 | shaLL | No Event |
| 10:48.42 | Tehwildcard | You can't not have an event |
| 10:48.43 | thenk | well of course it won't fire |
| 10:48.50 | shaLL | Oh... |
| 10:48.52 | Tehwildcard | The condition won't be checked without an event |
| 10:48.53 | thenk | *facepalm* |
| 10:48.57 | shaLL | lol |
| 10:49.11 | Tehwildcard | shall |
| 10:49.12 | Tehwildcard | just do |
| 10:49.13 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.16 | thenk | funny logic you have there :P |
| 10:49.17 | shaLL | Didn't know that was a requirement.. |
| 10:49.28 | thenk | event for a trigger? |
| 10:49.37 | thenk | you need to read some basic programming manual dude |
| 10:49.42 | Tehwildcard | :P |
| 10:49.44 | thenk | before you start trying to grasp editor |
| 10:49.45 | thenk | seriously |
| 10:49.46 | shaLL | o.o |
| 10:49.49 | Tehwildcard | Nah |
| 10:49.53 | Tehwildcard | You can learn from editor |
| 10:50.05 | thenk | yeah |
| 10:50.17 | Otixa | Protip: Don't try to scratch the back of your head with something which has a spring welded onto it ¬_¬ |
| 10:50.17 | thenk | that's probably better |
| 10:50.29 | thenk | my knowledge of programming does not agree with the editor |
| 10:50.30 | thenk | lol |
| 10:50.35 | Tehwildcard | lol |
| 10:50.35 | Otixa | In other news: I now have a scredriver stuck to the back of my head |
| 10:50.39 | shaLL | I know basics, nothing is ever completely grasped in my mind however x.x |
| 10:50.41 | thenk | EDITOR SAYS NO |
| 10:50.52 | Tehwildcard | Otixa, should I call someone? |
| 10:51.05 | Otixa | punches Tehwildcard |
| 10:51.11 | Tehwildcard | rofl |
| 10:51.13 | Tehwildcard | you have no clue |
| 10:51.16 | Otixa | Call someone who can untangle my hair from this damn thing >;/ |
| 10:51.18 | Tehwildcard | how awesome what you typed it |
| 10:51.25 | Tehwildcard | My sound for someone saying Tehwildcard |
| 10:51.26 | thenk | Otixa thanks for the tip i will keep it in mind for next time i am repairing my jet airliner |
| 10:51.33 | Tehwildcard | is a squeaky voice saying "Fatility" |
| 10:51.42 | Otixa | rofl |
| 10:51.44 | Tehwildcard | You punch me then I hear "Fatility" |
| 10:51.46 | Tehwildcard | hahah |
| 10:51.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster ReckeD (~ReckeD@CPE-124-188-3-23.dccz1.win.bigpond.net.au) |
| 10:51.57 | Otixa | srsly tho |
| 10:52.00 | Otixa | this is annoying >;/ |
| 10:52.05 | thenk | sup ReckeD |
| 10:52.12 | Otixa | And I don't wanna cut my hair |
| 10:52.51 | Otixa | I'M FREE! |
| 10:52.52 | Otixa | :D |
| 10:52.56 | Tehwildcard | I had a solution |
| 10:53.07 | Otixa | I'm... not gonna do that again ;/ |
| 10:53.21 | Tehwildcard | Set fire to your house, when the firemen show up just be like "Oh and could you get this screwdriver out of my hair" |
| 10:53.29 | Otixa | xD |
| 10:54.18 | Otixa | Bah |
| 10:54.22 | Otixa | Need to start packing ;/ |
| 10:54.26 | ReckeD | yo thenk |
| 10:54.31 | Tehwildcard | for? |
| 10:54.32 | ReckeD | trying to make my map a bit less laggy |
| 10:54.41 | Otixa | going back to teh UK |
| 10:54.47 | Tehwildcard | I'm sorry |
| 10:54.52 | Otixa | indeed ;/ |
| 10:55.11 | Otixa | At least I know a security hole in the network |
| 10:55.23 | Otixa | So I can basically use all the uni computers as mah minions :D |
| 10:55.52 | ReckeD | no-one has been able to tell me how to increase the range at which units acquire targets |
| 10:55.58 | ReckeD | *sad face* |
| 10:59.34 | *** join/#sc2mapster Blacksoldier (4fdde344@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.221.227.68) |
| 10:59.42 | Blacksoldier | MOOOOH |
| 11:00.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster Resinate (~IceChat7@c-24-16-10-232.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 11:00.17 | Resinate | yo guys |
| 11:00.25 | Resinate | need 3 ppl for arena |
| 11:00.33 | Resinate | kaotic arena* usa realms |
| 11:02.32 | *** join/#sc2mapster General1337 (~support@71-84-244-55.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 11:03.24 | thenk | ReckeD: weapon scan range? |
| 11:05.38 | ReckeD | weapon SCAN range ay |
| 11:05.41 | ReckeD | ill look into it |
| 11:05.47 | ReckeD | cheers thenky |
| 11:07.04 | Huesy | Anyone got any idea why the "Result - Failure" messages in validators don't show up? |
| 11:08.24 | Rodrigo | someone should send to the map contest a map with unnaceptable word. |
| 11:08.50 | Rodrigo | I will laugh when Blizzard try to publish it |
| 11:09.03 | *** join/#sc2mapster Xaragoth (~Noone@port-92-202-38-61.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 11:09.23 | Saeris | rodrigo, you submitting anything? |
| 11:09.34 | ReckeD | as if they are going to go through every text value in every map thats been submitted |
| 11:09.34 | Saeris | btw otixa, i solved my problem on my own =) |
| 11:09.38 | ReckeD | btw |
| 11:09.44 | ReckeD | what counts as an unacceptable word? |
| 11:09.54 | ReckeD | is 'shit' out of bounds? |
| 11:09.59 | Otixa | Saeris, I saw. You still owe me 10 bux |
| 11:10.16 | Saeris | maybe if i win =P |
| 11:10.29 | rrowland | Contest Submission Confirmation - StarCraft II Custom Map Contest |
| 11:10.30 | Saeris | i'll be feeling generous if i do |
| 11:10.31 | Saeris | lol |
| 11:10.41 | Xaragoth | well, lets see what happens with blizzcon |
| 11:10.42 | mattavich-377 | Guys, i've added a model to a unit through events+ but the problem is it sits at the units feet |
| 11:10.45 | Otixa | 10 bux now or 200 if you win ;p |
| 11:10.52 | Otixa | The choice is yours |
| 11:10.56 | mattavich-377 | i've tried doing actorcreation |
| 11:10.56 | Otixa | swings scythe |
| 11:10.57 | mattavich-377 | and then |
| 11:11.00 | mattavich-377 | set position |
| 11:11.03 | mattavich-377 | but it isnt moving |
| 11:11.06 | mattavich-377 | am i doing ti wrong? |
| 11:11.09 | Saeris | or neither, lol |
| 11:11.44 | Dogmai | ekcolnovkol |
| 11:12.45 | thenk | add a site operation |
| 11:13.46 | mattavich-377 | to the actor which contains the model i am attaching? |
| 11:13.55 | shaLL | Need help made screen shot x_x |
| 11:13.58 | shaLL | http://starcraft2-shall.yolasite.com |
| 11:14.24 | shaLL | Editor tab... |
| 11:14.40 | mattavich-377 | What site op do i add? =/ |
| 11:16.31 | mattavich-377 | When i add a siteop "sopattachhead" the model disappears (as far as i can tell) |
| 11:16.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster Clord (~Clord@62-165-184-94.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 11:17.16 | HR_ | you could create your own site op |
| 11:17.21 | HR_ | local offset or something |
| 11:17.44 | mattavich-377 | how do i position the siteop though? I have actually created one you see |
| 11:17.49 | mattavich-377 | ah local offset erm |
| 11:18.23 | mattavich-377 | and i would add that site of to the actor of the model i am attaching to my marine? |
| 11:19.07 | mattavich-377 | I created a siteop actor but when i click it in data editor i cant find local offset :/ |
| 11:19.09 | HR_ | yes |
| 11:19.22 | HR_ | they are all different actor types |
| 11:19.30 | HR_ | dbl click your site op actor and change type |
| 11:20.12 | HR_ | Shall, idk what Unit Attached to 1 does... maybe your meant LastCreatedUnit ? |
| 11:20.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster Greedape (~Greed@p4FFD1DED.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:20.41 | Tehwildcard | shaLL |
| 11:20.45 | Tehwildcard | you're all over the place with that |
| 11:20.50 | Tehwildcard | Explain what you're trying to do |
| 11:20.52 | Tehwildcard | then we can help |
| 11:20.54 | Clord | grape! ^^ |
| 11:21.30 | Tehwildcard | your condition is still doing nothing |
| 11:21.44 | Tehwildcard | you only set it the event to Map int |
| 11:21.48 | Tehwildcard | which will only run once |
| 11:22.11 | Tehwildcard | To do a condition like that you would have to do an event that ran every .0001ms |
| 11:22.11 | Resinate | wow for once |
| 11:22.14 | Resinate | im bored of sc2 |
| 11:22.25 | Greedape | ha lol |
| 11:22.38 | Resinate | ill play some unreal |
| 11:22.42 | Greedape | .. |
| 11:22.49 | vjeux|work | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/6/775/Picture_5.png |
| 11:23.21 | Resinate | whats that |
| 11:23.29 | Greedape | mac pwnage? |
| 11:23.33 | Tehwildcard | Shall, set up your trigger like this... inc spam |
| 11:23.34 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.34 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.34 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.34 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.34 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.35 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.35 | Tehwildcard | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.35 | shaLL | Oh, I'm just trying to do something simple: Start a trigger which the user starts by typing "Start" then a unit spawns at region 1 and dies |
| 11:23.45 | vjeux|work | a test for the a new maps listing |
| 11:23.47 | shaLL | Oh ok |
| 11:23.51 | vjeux|work | that would actually be useful |
| 11:25.06 | Resinate | does anyone here play UT2004? |
| 11:25.15 | vjeux|work | i play it on lan |
| 11:25.17 | vjeux|work | it's really fun |
| 11:25.21 | Resinate | do u have a pirated one? |
| 11:25.24 | Huesy | Anyone know why validation errors aren't showing up on the screen (UI is not disabled)? http://www.ahughes.net/banter/4900ee2bbf67795f99006c76ee5055cc.png |
| 11:25.25 | Clord | I usually find connection between nickname and some word so I come up with weird calling nicknames XD |
| 11:25.44 | Tehwildcard | I only have a pirated ut2k4, I have a real one of the newer UT though |
| 11:26.00 | Resinate | wildcard |
| 11:26.02 | Tehwildcard | yo |
| 11:26.02 | Resinate | whats the patch name |
| 11:26.09 | Resinate | to play pirated one online |
| 11:26.13 | Tehwildcard | ugh |
| 11:26.14 | Tehwildcard | no clue |
| 11:26.16 | Tehwildcard | one sec |
| 11:26.41 | Tehwildcard | You can just play over that virtual lan that everyone plays on.... forgot what its called |
| 11:26.56 | Clord | hamachi |
| 11:27.07 | Greedape | okay so I NEED PEOPLE FOR STRESS TESTING my map.. EU, avaible now would be best.. just whisper me with your name.id and come online.. though i must say the map is rather skill dependant so.. ppl. who normally just chill in editor might get a problem.. |
| 11:27.13 | Tehwildcard | yeah, but there was one that had chat servers to meetup with people |
| 11:27.19 | Clord | ggarena |
| 11:27.21 | Clord | crap thing |
| 11:27.31 | Clord | from interface side ^^ |
| 11:27.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster Jibekn (Jibekn@mail1.innotech-windows.com) |
| 11:28.00 | Clord | it is also most hardcore pirates heaven |
| 11:28.03 | Clord | to play games online |
| 11:28.05 | Saeris | btw, Vjeux, Sixen, anyone else who might know. Did Blizzard ever come up and say what the rules were regarding the use of WoW models in the custom map contest entries? |
| 11:28.09 | Clord | those who not pay from any game |
| 11:28.15 | mattavich-377 | I'm clsoe but still not working |
| 11:28.23 | Clord | rules say |
| 11:28.28 | mattavich-377 | if i add my new siteop to my marines actor, he changes position and is flying |
| 11:28.29 | Clord | that if blizzard owns them... you can use them |
| 11:28.30 | Clord | XD |
| 11:28.33 | mattavich-377 | if i add it to the model iw ant to attach |
| 11:28.37 | mattavich-377 | nothing, it still sits at his feet |
| 11:28.52 | Tehwildcard | I can't find the patch, Resinate |
| 11:28.54 | Otixa | smacks vjeux|work |
| 11:28.57 | mattavich-377 | have i done done it right? |
| 11:28.57 | Clord | everything in contest entry must be owned by you or by blizzard |
| 11:28.59 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:29.03 | vjeux|work | :) |
| 11:29.09 | Saeris | that's what i figure |
| 11:29.15 | Clord | it tells so |
| 11:29.18 | Tehwildcard | or by me, you can use my work |
| 11:29.24 | Tehwildcard | for a $5000 fee, of course |
| 11:29.26 | Otixa | vjeux|work, where's our special TV section? :P |
| 11:29.49 | vjeux|work | might be working on that after i revamp the map section! |
| 11:29.51 | Clord | technically to own own stuff in legal viewpoint would mean to license them |
| 11:29.52 | Clord | lol |
| 11:29.52 | Saeris | i didn't see a specific line in the rules saying you could use Blizzard content other than Music |
| 11:30.02 | Otixa | vjeux|work, awesome ;D |
| 11:30.09 | Saeris | which is what makes me question it |
| 11:30.12 | vjeux|work | but it's definitively in my todo |
| 11:30.14 | Otixa | And fix the art forums ;p |
| 11:30.20 | Sputnick | can someone help me?, ive made an ability with activates instantly on the caster, ive made effects and got the animation happening but the damage isnt being applied, its an AOE ability |
| 11:30.24 | Otixa | They're godawful right now |
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| 11:30.59 | Tehwildcard | hmm you're right does only say Blizzard music |
| 11:31.01 | Resinate | yay |
| 11:31.06 | Resinate | i have a nasty keylogger |
| 11:31.09 | Saeris | vjeux. PLEASE add an option to choose how threads display. i'm really annoyed that it always goes to the last post, especially in tutorials i try and read |
| 11:31.18 | Otixa | And by splitting it into X and Finished assets, you basically turned X into an art request forum |
| 11:31.18 | Resinate | anyone know how to remove a keylogger? |
| 11:31.22 | Otixa | Not win |
| 11:31.24 | Otixa | prods vjeux|work |
| 11:31.50 | ReckeD | malwarebites, avg,spybot |
| 11:31.57 | ReckeD | im missing a few |
| 11:31.57 | mattavich-377 | Why the hell isnt locla offset moving my actor grrr |
| 11:31.58 | vjeux|work | Saeris: I shall fix the bug that makes you go on the last page :p |
| 11:32.03 | Tehwildcard | Resinate: http://majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=5756 |
| 11:32.19 | Saeris | thank you, it's so annoying >.< |
| 11:32.26 | Otixa | Tehwildcard, http://notyoutube.com |
| 11:32.34 | vjeux|work | it's supposed to get you to the last read post |
| 11:32.38 | vjeux|work | but it's completly fucked up |
| 11:32.49 | shaLL | tehwildcard Events Game - Map initialization Local Variables Conditions Text "Start" has been set Actions General - Repeat (Actions) forever Actions Unit - Create 1 Overlord for player 2 at (Center of 1) using default facing (No Options) Unit - Kill (Unit attached to 1) General - Wait 0.5 Game Time seconds Unit - Cr |
| 11:32.53 | shaLL | Eww =x |
| 11:32.55 | Tehwildcard | >.> |
| 11:33.06 | Otixa | vjeux|work, because sessions don't actually track which threads you read in a way that actually works? ;p |
| 11:33.08 | vjeux|work | use paste.sc2mapster.com please :) |
| 11:33.20 | vjeux|work | idk how it's implemented |
| 11:33.22 | shaLL | hmm |
| 11:33.26 | vjeux|work | but not working as intended for sure |
| 11:33.31 | shaLL | past.sc2mapster.com |
| 11:33.33 | shaLL | x.x |
| 11:33.43 | shaLL | paste.sc2mapster.com |
| 11:33.47 | shaLL | ? |
| 11:33.51 | Saeris | tbh, i'm kinda confused why the site uses the system it does. I can understand that you may have developed it yourself, but surely there were open source solutions that could have made things like the forums more functional |
| 11:33.56 | Otixa | punches shaLL |
| 11:33.57 | Tehwildcard | to paste code, shaLL |
| 11:34.02 | Saeris | but, i'll leave all the web stuff to you, not my place to question it |
| 11:34.16 | ReckeD | LFM playtesters SEA, pst |
| 11:34.16 | Otixa | Saeris, integration into multiple sub-sites and systems |
| 11:34.20 | vjeux|work | Saeris: well, it's better integrated this way |
| 11:34.28 | vjeux|work | they used a vbulletin for wowace.com |
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| 11:34.33 | vjeux|work | but it's really lame |
| 11:34.44 | vjeux|work | http://forums.wowace.com/ |
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| 11:35.00 | vjeux|work | you don't have the same profile |
| 11:35.02 | Saeris | yea, i'm not a fan of vbulletin either |
| 11:35.02 | Otixa | The design makes Otixa sad |
| 11:35.04 | Otixa | >:| |
| 11:35.09 | vjeux|work | nor your projects ... |
| 11:35.10 | shaLL | Tehwildcard To paste code? |
| 11:35.17 | Otixa | vjeux|work, soliek... Fix art sections? :P |
| 11:35.23 | Otixa | Bonus points for making me a mod there |
| 11:35.28 | vjeux|work | but I agree the current software could be better |
| 11:35.30 | vjeux|work | and will be! |
| 11:35.36 | Tehwildcard | If you want to show me your code, paste it in there then PM it to me |
| 11:35.41 | vjeux|work | basically they just coded it and never tested it |
| 11:35.50 | vjeux|work | and it's working quite well :p |
| 11:36.11 | Saeris | seeing as MMO Champion is owned/hosted by Curse now, happen to know what system they use? i figure it's vbulletin aswell though |
| 11:36.18 | Otixa | They just need to l2sessions and DB architecture :P |
| 11:36.43 | vjeux|work | mmoc moved recently to vbulletin |
| 11:36.52 | vjeux|work | was using some shitty SMF before |
| 11:37.00 | Saeris | ah |
| 11:37.18 | shaLL | thewildcard Hi? |
| 11:37.29 | Tehwildcard | whatsup? |
| 11:37.34 | shaLL | To paste code? |
| 11:37.34 | Saeris | well, regardless of system, i enjoy the layout of that site, it's easy to read |
| 11:37.40 | Otixa | vjeux|work, stop avoiding the issue! >:[ |
| 11:37.45 | Otixa | smacks vjeux|work |
| 11:37.46 | vjeux|work | what issue? |
| 11:37.50 | Otixa | Art forums |
| 11:37.54 | Tehwildcard | What you pasted into chat |
| 11:37.57 | Saeris | and that's really all i ask for |
| 11:38.04 | Tehwildcard | = code |
| 11:38.17 | vjeux|work | do you want an art forum into sc2mapster? |
| 11:38.22 | shaLL | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:38.33 | shaLL | Confused... |
| 11:38.38 | Otixa | vjeux|work, I want the current art forums fixed so they don't suck :P |
| 11:38.41 | Xaragoth | sets vjeux on fire. |
| 11:38.49 | Otixa | And I volunteer to moderate the art section if you fix it |
| 11:38.50 | Otixa | <_< |
| 11:38.52 | vjeux|work | please what's your problem :x |
| 11:38.52 | Tehwildcard | Get rid of your condition |
| 11:38.55 | vjeux|work | i don't get it |
| 11:38.58 | Otixa | Well |
| 11:39.10 | mattavich-377 | Guys, how do you make a siteop move with the units movement? For example, when it is idle i'd like it to move with the idle movements? |
| 11:39.12 | Otixa | You split art into finished assets and "general" |
| 11:39.19 | Tehwildcard | just use this very simple Event Game - Player Any Player types a chat message containing "start", matching Exactly |
| 11:39.21 | Resinate | thanks for the anti malware |
| 11:39.24 | Otixa | What that does it turns "general" into a requests forum |
| 11:39.27 | Resinate | found 3 infected |
| 11:39.32 | shaLL | Ok |
| 11:39.47 | Otixa | What is needed is 1 art forum, with a requests and tutorials subforums |
| 11:39.54 | Tehwildcard | You don't need an extra condition |
| 11:40.07 | Otixa | s/forums/subsections/ |
| 11:40.12 | Tehwildcard | Also in your Actions, you have to first attach the unit to the region |
| 11:40.36 | Xaragoth | actually, the forum could use a lot of sorting |
| 11:40.48 | Xaragoth | too many big forums, not enough subs in my opinion |
| 11:40.51 | mattavich-377 | Can anyone help me please? |
| 11:41.12 | Tehwildcard | "Don't ask to ask, just ask" |
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| 11:41.28 | Xaragoth | he asked |
| 11:41.29 | mattavich-377 | i do but no one answers |
| 11:41.29 | Xaragoth | we ignore |
| 11:41.35 | Saeris | anyways, now that my eyesight has started to come back, time to get back to work |
| 11:41.35 | Tehwildcard | oh lol |
| 11:41.40 | shaLL | tehwildcard How do I kill a unit? |
| 11:41.43 | mattavich-377 | i added a "mask" model to my marine |
| 11:41.47 | mattavich-377 | it is in position |
| 11:41.49 | mattavich-377 | but static |
| 11:41.54 | Tehwildcard | Unit - Kill (Last created unit) |
| 11:41.56 | mattavich-377 | it doesnt "move with the idle stance" |
| 11:42.05 | mattavich-377 | is there anyway to anchor it so it moves with the unit>? |
| 11:42.09 | Xaragoth | matta: since proziac seems absent I just point to the tutorials |
| 11:42.17 | shaLL | Ok, thanks for your help |
| 11:42.18 | mattavich-377 | been there aobut 10 times |
| 11:42.25 | Xaragoth | uberlisk tut covers that problem |
| 11:42.34 | mattavich-377 | ive had that open for an hour i cant find out how |
| 11:42.55 | Tehwildcard | shaLL, it runs in order so you have to kill the unit after you create it :P |
| 11:43.55 | mattavich-377 | i've been trying to get this to work for hours |
| 11:43.57 | mattavich-377 | using that tut |
| 11:44.08 | mattavich-377 | but it just aint happening |
| 11:44.49 | Tofu | is there a way to copy pasta a chunk of terrain? |
| 11:45.58 | mattavich-377 | all it says it create an attachmentpoint actor |
| 11:46.05 | mattavich-377 | cant find anywhere where it tells me what to do with it |
| 11:46.12 | Tehwildcard | Tofu, just select the area and copy it |
| 11:46.42 | Tehwildcard | spacebar to select area when editing terrain |
| 11:46.58 | mattavich-377 | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 11:47.03 | mattavich-377 | ignorance is so annoying |
| 11:47.25 | Tehwildcard | I wouldn't know how to fix it, Matta |
| 11:47.47 | DiNo29 | Is there a way to put more stuff in cinematic text, or not erase the previous cinematic text when you show a new one ? |
| 11:49.04 | DiNo29 | Actually I'm just looking for a good looking kind of text .... they all seems to suck |
| 11:50.56 | DiNo29 | chat/subtitles appears instantly which is ugly, and get scrolled out if player talk. Cinematic looks great but can only show around 30 characters at a time and on one line. Directive isn't bad but appears instantly too and you can only have one at a time. Crawl text doesn't support <\n> (lines) at all .... Is there any good kind of text or way to make one ? :( |
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| 11:52.29 | Greedape | i have a little question to those who know it.. or think they know it: on frontpage, vjeux newsed the inefficient use of nested loops, while loops being much more efficient.. Isnt that somewhat misleading? because the while loops use core programming instead of the whole code being written out, the final calculation should be the same.. so the frontpaged news are a bit misleading, while |
| 11:52.29 | Greedape | loops just need less space on HDD (which is still a good thing) and are not much more to handle for the CPU.. is that right? |
| 11:53.42 | Blacksoldier | is there a possibility to hide the editor ui for a screenshot? |
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| 11:57.09 | Xackery | http://www.hulu.com/watch/1389/saturday-night-live-dont-buy-stuff <3 |
| 11:59.45 | DiNo29 | So, no good kind of text ? :( |
| 12:01.18 | Helral|Work | Greedape: the problem with the for loops is the implementation by blizzard. |
| 12:01.48 | Helral|Work | Greedape: they've implemented it bad. which causes too much unneeded code and ruins the easy usage since it basicly makes your code too long. |
| 12:02.12 | Helral|Work | Greedape: while loops and nested while loops are no problem. |
| 12:02.17 | Helral|Work | it's purely the for loops. |
| 12:02.24 | Helral|Work | for each, pick each, etc. |
| 12:02.26 | Greedape | but thats only HDD stuff, which IS bad, i give you that, but its not as fail as people want it to look like |
| 12:03.03 | mattavich-377 | Seriously, does ANYONE know how to make a siteop/model i've attached move with the unit? |
| 12:03.08 | mattavich-377 | I've spent hours trying |
| 12:03.14 | ReckeD | LFM SEA play testers, pst |
| 12:03.30 | Helral|Work | uhm Greedape: did you read the post that it is linked to? (lemme check if vjeux linked it correctly) |
| 12:03.38 | Greedape | ya |
| 12:03.39 | Greedape | i did |
| 12:04.49 | Helral|Work | what sc2 does with foreach loops is: If(possible usage of for loop 1) then {Entire code in loop} else if (possible usage of for loop 2) then {entire code in loop} |
| 12:05.02 | Helral|Work | which is double the code than what you'd have using a while loop. |
| 12:05.38 | Helral|Work | next if you use a nested for loop, the content of that for loop is quadriple what it is as with a nested while loop. |
| 12:05.42 | vjeux|work | http://pastebin.com/2ueAmHug |
| 12:05.45 | vjeux|work | look at the expanded code |
| 12:05.47 | vjeux|work | it's crazy |
| 12:05.52 | Helral|Work | 3 nested for loops = 8x the code overhead. |
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| 12:05.58 | Helral|Work | 4 nested = 16 times. |
| 12:06.00 | Helral|Work | etc. |
| 12:06.00 | Greedape | that is correct indeed, but does it increase the CPU usage, thats my question, as i think using while loops and core programming doesnt really matter |
| 12:06.20 | vjeux|work | there are many useless tests |
| 12:06.21 | Helral|Work | no it let's you get to the too much code error faster. |
| 12:06.31 | Helral|Work | there is a little bit more overhead not noticable though. |
| 12:07.06 | Helral|Work | for loops aren't default possible. it's a while loop implementation that is done wrong by blizzard. |
| 12:07.45 | Greedape | i only mentioned it because vjeux/thefallenone make it sound like a for each loop will need 1000 times more cpu capacity |
| 12:07.52 | Greedape | which seems kinda wrong |
| 12:07.58 | Helral|Work | the problem isn't the cpu capacity. |
| 12:08.06 | Greedape | its the code itself and its lenght |
| 12:08.08 | Greedape | i know |
| 12:08.10 | Helral|Work | it's the amount of code it generates in comparison to what is needed. |
| 12:08.22 | Greedape | i know that |
| 12:08.29 | Helral|Work | the overhead of the for loop with time is just a bit more then is actually needed. |
| 12:08.30 | Greedape | but do people that read it? |
| 12:08.32 | vjeux|work | hmm i should probably change |
| 12:08.37 | vjeux|work | "really inefficient" |
| 12:08.39 | vjeux|work | to something else |
| 12:08.55 | Helral|Work | well blizzards for loop implementation is inefficient. |
| 12:09.02 | Greedape | because i think itll make newer users go for while loops even though they are not too good with them |
| 12:09.15 | vjeux|work | it'll just make blizz fix it :p |
| 12:09.19 | rrowland | Really? |
| 12:09.22 | rrowland | Loops are loops |
| 12:09.22 | Greedape | yeah thats maybe |
| 12:09.41 | Sputnick | how do i make a behaviour an AOE? |
| 12:10.03 | Helral|Work | for loops and while loops are different due to the fact that with for loops you know the start, end, and modify value. and with end loops you need to look in the loop itself for it. |
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| 12:10.17 | Helral|Work | with while loops* |
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| 12:10.37 | Greedape | AND while loops are a bit harder to generate when you are new to the editor |
| 12:10.50 | Greedape | especially nested while loops |
| 12:11.21 | Helral|Work | vjeux: I'd make the "nested FOR loops" bold and also capitalize for to make it obvious that it is a for loop and not for a loop |
| 12:11.44 | Greedape | :P |
| 12:11.47 | Helral|Work | or underline the entire for loop bit, so it is seen as a bit that belongs to eachother. |
| 12:11.57 | Greedape | or "for loop" |
| 12:11.58 | Greedape | kinda |
| 12:12.24 | Helral|Work | yeah mark it somehow to make it obvious that it only affect FOR loops and not WHILE loops :P |
| 12:12.57 | Greedape | nevertheless, i got my question aswered, it really doesnt matter that much for CPU, its the code lenght and the overall bigger fail capacity that comes with it |
| 12:13.50 | Greedape | ah and btw, wasnt the nexus wars tourny being held like a week later? |
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| 16:08.16 | mattavich-377 | what is the action to reveal cloaked units in a region? |
| 16:08.57 | Xaragoth | need more people for CL |
| 16:14.40 | mattavich-377 | How cna i make a region always uncloak cloaked units when they enter? |
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| 16:17.17 | SycoPrime | Mattavich: Use a trigger for "unit enters region", actions: "issue order", set the order to uncloak. |
| 16:17.43 | SycoPrime | If you wanted, you could disable the cloak ability for units in the region in that same trigger, and re-enable on "unit leaves region" |
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| 16:21.29 | Natut | Heya |
| 16:21.33 | Natut | Sweepingzero here? |
| 16:21.58 | ihatebanelings | how do i make it so guys show the death animation in fog of war? |
| 16:23.29 | Natut | you mean they should provide vision in fow? |
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| 16:25.43 | ReckeD | How do i modify a units shield recharge delay rate with an aura (ie. behaviors effects)? |
| 16:26.08 | Resinate | i so wish i could submit my updated map LOL |
| 16:26.08 | ihatebanelings | well when you kill a unit in fog of war they dont have a death animation |
| 16:26.40 | Resinate | loadin a screenshot of it |
| 16:27.37 | Resinate | can sc2 editor read jpg files yet? |
| 16:30.07 | SycoPrime | Yes. After you convert them to dds. |
| 16:30.31 | Resinate | tga is faster |
| 16:30.35 | Resinate | psp cant open dds |
| 16:30.53 | Huesy | How do you get the actual value of a Text ID (Path/To/Text)? |
| 16:31.22 | Resinate | what do u guys think off |
| 16:31.23 | Resinate | http://yfrog.com/5mterrain030aj |
| 16:31.29 | Resinate | my map layout |
| 16:32.48 | tigerija | Hm, dunno, your grpahic is low ? |
| 16:33.36 | Resinate | ? |
| 16:33.46 | Resinate | what do u mean |
| 16:33.53 | tigerija | Nvm, your graphic is set to low ? I cant comment that layout, dont know what to say. |
| 16:34.12 | Resinate | .... |
| 16:35.06 | Resinate | WOW |
| 16:35.12 | Resinate | setting it to high is sick |
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| 16:36.30 | Resinate | this may look weird on high settings due to custom lighting |
| 16:36.49 | Resinate | btw i made a 7 line trigger system for day and night LOL |
| 16:38.12 | SycoPrime | How would one use a trigger to create a building in progress? |
| 16:38.48 | Resinate | this is what my map looks like on HIGH |
| 16:38.49 | Resinate | http://yfrog.com/9fterrain031aj |
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| 16:40.03 | Resinate | any comments? |
| 16:42.47 | RedWraith | I like it Resinate. |
| 16:43.05 | RedWraith | I don't like the map concept, but I love the terraining and the lighting. |
| 16:43.37 | goomba_ | wheres rudeofnude |
| 16:43.39 | RedWraith | For the record, I don't like any map that is symmetric or static. |
| 16:43.44 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 16:43.51 | goomba_ | aso hi sixen |
| 16:43.54 | goomba_ | awso |
| 16:43.57 | goomba_ | my key |
| 16:44.07 | goomba_ | |_ |
| 16:44.08 | RedWraith | well, I mean, that looks like a sports arena |
| 16:44.09 | RedWraith | more like |
| 16:44.09 | goomba_ | that one |
| 16:44.12 | Jum-Jum | l L |
| 16:44.14 | Jum-Jum | here you go |
| 16:44.24 | goomba_ | i cant 1o1 |
| 16:44.27 | goomba_ | |o |
| 16:44.31 | goomba_ | |o| |
| 16:44.41 | Resinate | its a TDM arena |
| 16:44.45 | Resinate | for jailbreak |
| 16:45.15 | Resinate | btw u guys should see what night time looks like in game LOL |
| 16:45.43 | goomba_ | consider L fixed |
| 16:45.51 | Huesy | Any way of converting a text key into its actual value? |
| 16:46.02 | Resinate | u know |
| 16:46.07 | RedWraith | TDM? |
| 16:46.09 | Resinate | im surprised no one made a zelda map |
| 16:46.17 | Resinate | using dialogs for hearts LOL |
| 16:46.21 | RedWraith | ...nevermind... |
| 16:46.30 | Resinate | my map is actully |
| 16:46.36 | Resinate | TDM-RTS |
| 16:46.44 | Resinate | with WASD |
| 16:46.48 | RedWraith | What IS TDM? |
| 16:46.57 | Jum-Jum | team deathmatch |
| 16:46.58 | Resinate | team death match |
| 16:47.00 | RedWraith | there we go |
| 16:47.10 | RedWraith | death match is obvious, but team deathmatch isn't. :P |
| 16:47.15 | goomba_ | should i stream my 1v1s gaiz |
| 16:47.17 | RedWraith | death match should be ffa son |
| 16:47.30 | Resinate | cant be FFA |
| 16:47.35 | Resinate | for the type of game it is |
| 16:47.41 | RedWraith | it can always be ffa |
| 16:47.44 | Resinate | its called jail break |
| 16:47.48 | RedWraith | if it can be 1v1, it can be ffa |
| 16:47.56 | Resinate | dude ur dumb |
| 16:47.59 | Jum-Jum | TDM is obvious for a nerd... and I... am a nerd |
| 16:48.13 | Resinate | this map isnt a kill and win game |
| 16:48.19 | Resinate | u have jail the whole team to win |
| 16:48.21 | RedWraith | Resinate, or I'm a genius and you've failed to recognize it. |
| 16:48.43 | Resinate | cuz ppl can get out of jail with the help of the team |
| 16:48.54 | RedWraith | You could, I don't know, have everyone be solo and have people transfer to from someone's jail to yours when you kill them :P |
| 16:49.09 | RedWraith | conscription by enemies |
| 16:49.25 | RedWraith | It's possible, I assure you. |
| 16:49.40 | ihatebanelings | hi, I got my fog of war dimmed for a few units, but when they die... I cant see the animation of them getting killed. is there any way to fix it so I'm able to see them die? |
| 16:50.01 | RedWraith | ihatebanelings, I'm nearly certain the answer is yes |
| 16:50.05 | RedWraith | but I forgot where it's stored |
| 16:50.37 | ihatebanelings | hmm |
| 16:51.14 | RedWraith | Actors - Fog Visibility |
| 16:51.19 | RedWraith | might be relevant to your interests |
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| 16:52.06 | RedWraith | ah, I think I got it |
| 16:52.13 | RedWraith | I bet it's the death actor |
| 16:52.21 | RedWraith | it's destroyed when the sound is done |
| 16:52.28 | RedWraith | though, I don't know if that perserves fog visibility |
| 16:52.41 | RedWraith | worst comes to worst, you can spawn a tiny, invisible unit with vison that dies after a set time |
| 16:52.42 | RedWraith | :P |
| 16:52.56 | Jum-Jum | or make a trigger |
| 16:53.15 | Jum-Jum | when unit dies -> create visibility thing on triggering unit for 1s? |
| 16:53.49 | RedWraith | yeah, that's not going to cause lag |
| 16:54.04 | RedWraith | let's have a trigger create something every time any unit dies |
| 16:54.06 | RedWraith | practical |
| 16:54.07 | RedWraith | :P |
| 16:54.11 | Technomancer | The point of impact on a model; the place where the projectiles impact specifically on the model, how would I change that? |
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| 16:55.06 | Resinate | good example of point of impact |
| 16:55.10 | Resinate | is my fist hitting ur face |
| 16:55.27 | Technomancer | ha ha ha |
| 16:55.36 | Technomancer | what'd I evar do 2 u? ;___; |
| 16:55.38 | RedWraith | FieldSentryAttack (Unnamed) |
| 16:55.38 | RedWraith | Target - Impact Site Ops +SOpAttachHarness SOpAttachVolumeNoVizEnhance SOpForwardLaunchGuide:Disabled:Disabled |
| 16:55.43 | Resinate | its a joke lol |
| 16:55.43 | RedWraith | Impact Site Ops |
| 16:55.47 | RedWraith | Iff I were to guess |
| 16:55.50 | Technomancer | I know REs lol |
| 16:55.51 | RedWraith | on the weapon actor |
| 16:56.02 | mattavich-377 | How long left until contest deadline? |
| 16:56.08 | RedWraith | midnight |
| 16:56.09 | RedWraith | tonight |
| 16:56.13 | Resinate | UH |
| 16:56.14 | Technomancer | does this change it on the weapon end or the model? |
| 16:56.23 | Resinate | whats most common res ppl play sc2 at? |
| 16:56.28 | ReckeD | what contest? |
| 16:56.30 | Resinate | 1280x720? |
| 16:56.40 | RedWraith | weapon end, Technomancer, the weapon actor |
| 16:56.45 | RedWraith | go to your weapon, look at tree |
| 16:56.47 | RedWraith | click actor |
| 16:56.48 | Resinate | if u submiited a map |
| 16:56.49 | Technomancer | nah I wanna change the model end |
| 16:56.53 | RedWraith | it should be near the top |
| 16:56.53 | Resinate | can u submitt another? |
| 16:56.57 | Technomancer | like on hte sentry |
| 16:57.02 | RedWraith | dumbdumb |
| 16:57.04 | ReckeD | this the blizzard contest? |
| 16:57.13 | Technomancer | it keeps hitting on an area below the model that has no polygons |
| 16:57.18 | RedWraith | If it's stored in the weapon, it's based on the weapon. |
| 16:57.19 | RedWraith | oh, thenm |
| 16:57.21 | RedWraith | you should |
| 16:57.26 | RedWraith | create an attachment point |
| 16:57.27 | RedWraith | :P |
| 16:57.31 | RedWraith | that's common |
| 16:57.36 | RedWraith | that is common* |
| 16:57.37 | Technomancer | that'd be in 3Dstudio? |
| 16:57.41 | RedWraith | Yes. |
| 16:57.50 | mattavich-377 | Redwraith i liv ein UK, how long away si midnight in US? |
| 16:57.54 | Technomancer | hmm k well I think I gathered where the point is, ok |
| 16:57.59 | Technomancer | 5 hours behind |
| 16:58.01 | RedWraith | mattavich, look at the contest. |
| 16:58.02 | RedWraith | PST |
| 16:58.06 | RedWraith | it's 10 am right now |
| 16:58.08 | RedWraith | so 14 hours |
| 16:58.09 | Technomancer | oh then 8 |
| 16:58.13 | Technomancer | no no no |
| 16:58.15 | Technomancer | 8 hours |
| 16:58.19 | mattavich-377 | 8 hours left? |
| 16:58.22 | RedWraith | I don't know if it's PST they set the time in |
| 16:58.22 | Technomancer | noooo |
| 16:58.23 | mattavich-377 | That is AWESOME |
| 16:58.24 | RedWraith | no, 14 |
| 16:58.25 | RedWraith | 14 hours |
| 16:58.26 | RedWraith | 14444 |
| 16:58.29 | Technomancer | GMT - 8 is PST |
| 16:58.30 | RedWraith | It's 10 AM |
| 16:58.30 | mattavich-377 | omg >.< |
| 16:58.38 | RedWraith | 14 hours left for PST |
| 16:58.38 | RedWraith | :P |
| 16:58.40 | mattavich-377 | It is 6pm in UK now |
| 16:58.55 | RedWraith | I turned mine in yesterday. |
| 16:59.08 | mattavich-377 | so 8am tomorrow morning will be deadline for me? |
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| 17:00.04 | ReckeD | anyone got a link to the contest page? |
| 17:00.08 | ReckeD | pretty please |
| 17:01.19 | RedWraith | Technomancer, I'm honestly not sure how it determines where it hits. I'm pretty sure most weapons just go straight to the Center attachment point. |
| 17:01.30 | RedWraith | ReckeD, it's in the custom map forums. |
| 17:01.35 | Technomancer | mmm |
| 17:01.49 | Technomancer | well no not what I observed on colossus, it has points of impact |
| 17:01.52 | Technomancer | anyway |
| 17:01.57 | Technomancer | ill worry bout it later |
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| 17:02.26 | Technomancer | I think impact site on the model end is a good place to look, actor on the model or somethin idk |
| 17:02.36 | Technomancer | I bet you'd still have to place the friggin point in 3ds |
| 17:03.48 | ihatebanelings | yay. now how do i make it so i can see the weapon impact dimmed in fog of war XD |
| 17:03.53 | RedWraith | FieldColossus |
| 17:03.53 | RedWraith | Attachment Properties + |
| 17:03.53 | ihatebanelings | lols |
| 17:03.55 | RedWraith | in Models |
| 17:03.59 | RedWraith | might do the trick |
| 17:04.01 | RedWraith | look at the weights |
| 17:04.06 | RedWraith | notice all the center ones are 1? |
| 17:04.37 | RedWraith | d'oh |
| 17:04.40 | RedWraith | they're all -1 |
| 17:04.41 | Technomancer | Where is "Field Colossus"? |
| 17:04.53 | RedWraith | Models |
| 17:04.57 | RedWraith | Models -> Colossus |
| 17:05.01 | Technomancer | ah yes |
| 17:05.08 | Technomancer | ok im sorta busy this very moment |
| 17:05.21 | Technomancer | lemme get back to that but i'll save the text :P |
| 17:05.39 | RedWraith | I'm honestly not sure, but it should be attachment points. |
| 17:06.23 | Resinate | ALMO!!! |
| 17:06.24 | Technomancer | see, I dont ask stupid questions... generally :P |
| 17:06.26 | Resinate | LMAO!! |
| 17:06.30 | Resinate | i broke 10 megs |
| 17:06.32 | goomba_ | ALAMO!! |
| 17:06.37 | mattavich-377 | me too it sucks |
| 17:06.40 | Technomancer | REMEMBER IT!!! |
| 17:06.44 | Resinate | well ill save it |
| 17:06.46 | goomba_ | good thing you have 50+ megs now |
| 17:06.46 | Resinate | to compress it |
| 17:06.54 | Resinate | single files |
| 17:06.55 | Resinate | are 10 m |
| 17:06.58 | RedWraith | REsinate |
| 17:07.02 | RedWraith | limit for contest is 10 |
| 17:07.05 | mattavich-377 | it faield at 10mb for me =/ |
| 17:07.11 | mattavich-377 | just to publish private |
| 17:07.11 | Resinate | so is live servers |
| 17:07.16 | Resinate | btw |
| 17:07.19 | Resinate | if u guys read the rules |
| 17:07.26 | Resinate | it says for use of a private server is banned |
| 17:07.27 | Resinate | LOL |
| 17:07.41 | mattavich-377 | i wouldnt ahve been able to create the map if i couldnt test |
| 17:07.43 | Sixen | Huh? |
| 17:07.44 | mattavich-377 | it is multiplayer |
| 17:07.46 | Sixen | He said publish it privately. |
| 17:07.48 | Resinate | on the contest |
| 17:07.54 | Resinate | read the rules |
| 17:08.00 | Resinate | and serach for private server |
| 17:08.00 | ReckeD | you cant publish, even privately, or use a private server |
| 17:08.01 | mattavich-377 | locked and private |
| 17:08.04 | Sixen | Nobody is talking about private servers. |
| 17:08.07 | Sixen | There are no private servers. |
| 17:08.21 | Sixen | Publishing it on Battle.net as private is still against the rules though. |
| 17:08.26 | goomba_ | hai sixen |
| 17:08.29 | Sixen | hai2u goombeezy |
| 17:08.33 | mattavich-377 | --- |
| 17:08.34 | mattavich-377 | -_- |
| 17:08.37 | goomba_ | supwitchugur |
| 17:08.38 | ReckeD | im thinking about submitting my map anyways |
| 17:08.39 | Sixen | Sorry Matta :( |
| 17:08.41 | goomba_ | l |
| 17:08.42 | Sixen | Go for it |
| 17:08.45 | ReckeD | a) not like im going to win |
| 17:08.52 | Sixen | Worst case scenario is, they catch it and disqualify you :P |
| 17:08.52 | goomba_ | my l key broken |
| 17:08.55 | goomba_ | >:| |
| 17:08.56 | mattavich-377 | well all maps that get submitted will undoubtedly suck if the only accepted maps are those that haven't been tested/published private |
| 17:09.03 | ReckeD | b) might get me some popularity tho |
| 17:09.07 | Sixen | Use MapCraft if you want to be safe ) |
| 17:09.08 | Sixen | :) |
| 17:09.12 | Resinate | In the event that Sponsor feels that a Movie was created in violation of the foregoing agreements and/or policies, such as through the use of a "Private Server," that Map will be disqualified from the Contest. |
| 17:09.14 | Sixen | I released an update so it works. |
| 17:09.26 | goomba_ | you at home sixen? |
| 17:09.28 | Resinate | its there |
| 17:09.29 | Sixen | Resinate, nobody is talking about private servers. |
| 17:09.30 | Resinate | LOL |
| 17:09.32 | ReckeD | ~seen mapcraft |
| 17:09.36 | purl | ReckeD: i haven't seen 'mapcraft' |
| 17:09.36 | Resinate | im saying |
| 17:09.40 | Resinate | its a random lol rule on the contest |
| 17:09.46 | Sixen | Recked, http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/mapcraft |
| 17:09.50 | marine63 | i need more help ^_^ |
| 17:10.01 | Sixen | no, goomba. I'll b e home at like 1:30 today |
| 17:10.05 | Sixen | 3ish hours |
| 17:10.07 | mattavich-377 | I got a feeling this contest is a sucky techdemo type contest and any decent map with replayability or multiplayer aspects using EXISTING units/features of the normal SC game will not win |
| 17:10.08 | Sixen | Got an exam :( |
| 17:10.12 | goomba_ | o |
| 17:10.19 | Sixen | mattavich, basically, =| |
| 17:10.24 | Resinate | thank god lol |
| 17:10.29 | mattavich-377 | The winner will be some basic map using WSAD keys that does fuckall, no one plays but looks cool for 10 seconds |
| 17:10.31 | goomba_ | i just owned a protoss 1v1 |
| 17:10.31 | Resinate | my map is like 40% outside stuff |
| 17:10.34 | goomba_ | made me think of you |
| 17:10.38 | Sixen | pfft |
| 17:10.43 | goomba_ | xD |
| 17:10.45 | Sixen | Goomba, i'm diamond 1s, 2s, 3s P |
| 17:10.46 | Sixen | :P |
| 17:10.48 | Sixen | Platinum 4s |
| 17:10.55 | goomba_ | 1v1 is the only one that counts |
| 17:10.56 | goomba_ | amigo |
| 17:10.58 | Resinate | six ill pwn u |
| 17:11.00 | Resinate | any league |
| 17:11.02 | ReckeD | agreed goomba |
| 17:11.02 | Sixen | Diamond 1s buddy. |
| 17:11.13 | ReckeD | im still plat |
| 17:11.14 | Resinate | jking |
| 17:11.14 | goomba_ | ive been diamond/plat since beta :D |
| 17:11.17 | ReckeD | too much time mapping |
| 17:11.19 | goomba_ | plat when it was the highest |
| 17:11.19 | Resinate | i have 0 league games |
| 17:11.20 | ReckeD | not enough time playing |
| 17:11.22 | Resinate | and 700 custom games |
| 17:11.25 | mattavich-377 | I hate this first person fad, the game is an RTS, the FPS style sucks big time i would by unreal tournament from the 1990s and get a better game than anything created on here |
| 17:11.28 | mattavich-377 | RANTING |
| 17:11.28 | Sixen | I was only Platinum, I didn't melee after they released Diamond league |
| 17:11.31 | Sixen | ;) |
| 17:11.38 | Jum-Jum | Word mattavich-377 |
| 17:11.48 | Jum-Jum | It was impressive at Blizzcon but other than that, not that interested |
| 17:11.48 | ReckeD | lol matta |
| 17:11.49 | Resinate | ROFL matt |
| 17:11.52 | goomba_ | if i played more id be higher ranke |
| 17:11.52 | Resinate | i made a UT2004 map |
| 17:11.57 | Resinate | for the contest |
| 17:12.01 | goomba_ | i play like 2-3 games then im all meh |
| 17:12.05 | goomba_ | im bored |
| 17:12.08 | Sixen | Same |
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| 17:12.13 | Sixen | I really don't like 1v1. |
| 17:12.16 | Sixen | I prefer 2v2. |
| 17:12.17 | goomba_ | casting is fun but i lose when i cast for some reason |
| 17:12.23 | Jum-Jum | 1v1 feels like singleplayer |
| 17:12.24 | Sixen | It's boring playing alone |
| 17:12.25 | goomba_ | i prefer 2v2, but 1v1 is more satisfying |
| 17:12.34 | Huesy | How do I get the trigger debugger up? |
| 17:12.42 | Resinate | pref |
| 17:12.45 | Resinate | under test doc |
| 17:12.51 | goomba_ | 1v1 is more intense, higher stakes |
| 17:12.55 | Sixen | Files > Preferences > Test Document > Trigger Debugger |
| 17:12.58 | Sixen | True, Goomba |
| 17:13.09 | Sixen | But when you win, it's like, "yay. now it's on to the next one." |
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| 17:13.16 | Huesy | hmm...not showing |
| 17:13.21 | goomba_ | when i win its lilke |
| 17:13.27 | goomba_ | well it depends |
| 17:13.27 | Sixen | Should be a checkbox, Huesy. |
| 17:13.36 | Huesy | Yeah I found it |
| 17:13.40 | Sixen | ;) |
| 17:13.41 | goomba_ | i love when i play really well |
| 17:13.43 | goomba_ | and get my rape on |
| 17:13.45 | Sixen | lol |
| 17:13.46 | Huesy | Not doing anything for me though :( |
| 17:13.55 | Sixen | You have to be running in windowed mode, Huesy. |
| 17:14.00 | ReckeD | huesy |
| 17:14.04 | Huesy | I am :) |
| 17:14.05 | ReckeD | arent you SEA? |
| 17:14.10 | Huesy | I am that too |
| 17:14.15 | ReckeD | its late bro |
| 17:14.16 | Sixen | o_O. Should pop up the trigger debugger when you "Test" the game. |
| 17:14.18 | ReckeD | go to bed |
| 17:14.24 | Huesy | Must be another stupid Mac thing. No tooltips, no debugger |
| 17:14.29 | Huesy | Go to face. |
| 17:14.33 | Sixen | Yuck :( |
| 17:14.41 | Sixen | I'm still waiting for someone to make a third party mac editor. |
| 17:14.42 | Huesy | No wonder everything takes twice as long |
| 17:14.50 | Sixen | So far, the only third party editor... ever.. is MilkyWay |
| 17:14.53 | goomba_ | mac sux lol |
| 17:14.57 | Huesy | ^ this |
| 17:15.01 | Sixen | Yeah, but a lot of people have Macs. |
| 17:15.09 | Sixen | Especially students. |
| 17:15.13 | goomba_ | a lot of people have aids |
| 17:15.15 | goomba_ | but aids sux too |
| 17:15.18 | Sixen | Especially students. |
| 17:15.22 | goomba_ | LOL |
| 17:15.22 | mattavich-377 | africa |
| 17:15.24 | Huesy | I'm going back to PC when this dies...hopefully soon...but after I back up :P |
| 17:15.24 | Sixen | ;) |
| 17:15.24 | Jum-Jum | hahaha good comparison |
| 17:15.33 | Sixen | Bootcamp, Huesy ;) |
| 17:15.37 | Blacksoldier | MOOOH |
| 17:16.02 | Huesy | Restarted editor, still no debugging window. doh |
| 17:16.09 | Huesy | I think I'll have to Sixen |
| 17:16.21 | goomba_ | i feel like posting that in the quote thread |
| 17:16.23 | goomba_ | and so shall it be |
| 17:16.47 | Huesy | This is just so helpful: http://www.ahughes.net/banter/81cb01e52300a99d508f6008f2239810.png |
| 17:17.04 | Huesy | DOT DOT DOT |
| 17:17.24 | Sixen | lol |
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| 17:17.43 | Sixen | Motive is the big Mac dude around here, ask him if there's a problem with the Trig Deubbger |
| 17:17.45 | Sixen | Debugger* |
| 17:18.08 | Huesy | Motive: Is there a problem with the trig debugger? |
| 17:19.43 | goomba_ | goomba_ |
| 17:19.56 | Huesy | Darn, no trigger log files |
| 17:20.12 | Huesy | Only 50+ crash logs XD |
| 17:20.27 | Eiviyn | How is that not helpful, you have a variable called Card Layouts, it's an array, it's in the trigger "Melee Initialization", it is a bad reference |
| 17:20.43 | goomba_ | so sixen when do i get mod for being awesome? |
| 17:20.45 | Eiviyn | Looks to me like you forgot to set the array field to a player |
| 17:21.02 | Sixen | When you pay me for being so awesome |
| 17:21.06 | Sixen | ;) |
| 17:21.11 | Huesy | The array is absolutely fine |
| 17:21.20 | Eiviyn | Well that error says it isn't |
| 17:21.22 | goomba_ | err |
| 17:21.39 | goomba_ | i offer fiddy cent |
| 17:21.53 | Sixen | lol |
| 17:22.03 | Jum-Jum | Why should we when you're doing it for free Sixen? |
| 17:22.09 | Sixen | <3 |
| 17:22.09 | mattavich-377 | I've spent 60 days on this map |
| 17:22.17 | Huesy | And I'm trying to find out why it says it isn't, tested everything I can think of |
| 17:22.25 | mattavich-377 | i will be annoyed to say the least if they disqualify my becaus ei published private for testing purposes |
| 17:23.16 | Eiviyn | I just submitted my map under a different name than what I playtested it as |
| 17:23.41 | Eiviyn | Though |
| 17:23.44 | mattavich-377 | so you rename the map file? |
| 17:23.45 | Eiviyn | My map uses hidden abilities |
| 17:23.56 | Eiviyn | So I guess it'll be broken by blizzcon anyway |
| 17:24.02 | Eiviyn | So can't say I really care anymore :((( |
| 17:24.06 | mattavich-377 | well |
| 17:24.10 | mattavich-377 | by then they will own your map |
| 17:24.12 | mattavich-377 | and will be editing it |
| 17:24.13 | Eiviyn | REALLY stupid that they have to change the editor at the end of the contest |
| 17:24.19 | Eiviyn | They already own everyone's maps |
| 17:24.29 | mattavich-377 | not in this way i dont think |
| 17:24.38 | mattavich-377 | not like you can create V2 and publish on marketplace |
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| 17:24.41 | mattavich-377 | when it comes |
| 17:24.41 | Eiviyn | Anything you make in the editor is blizzard's property, it's in the tos |
| 17:24.44 | mattavich-377 | i dont think anyway |
| 17:24.48 | Eiviyn | It was in the wc3 tos, and sc1 |
| 17:25.01 | Eiviyn | Hell your WoW and Diablo characters also belonged to blizzard |
| 17:25.13 | mattavich-377 | i have screenshots |
| 17:25.16 | Eiviyn | It's just a fallback they use so that they can delete your content/character without legal action |
| 17:25.17 | mattavich-377 | they can never take those away form me |
| 17:25.25 | Jum-Jum | You mean like dota...? |
| 17:25.48 | Eiviyn | Yeah, I mean, take dota |
| 17:25.56 | Eiviyn | Blizzard could have just lifted that right off the guy's hands |
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| 17:25.59 | Eiviyn | And made a killing from it |
| 17:26.04 | Eiviyn | But they didn't |
| 17:26.14 | Eiviyn | And they won't with this contest either |
| 17:26.25 | Jum-Jum | They can't really take an idea |
| 17:26.31 | Eiviyn | Of course they can |
| 17:26.37 | Jum-Jum | Like HoN or Valves Dota? |
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| 17:26.50 | mattavich-377 | did the maker of dota make any money from it? |
| 17:26.56 | ReckeD | Anyone on SEA free to test a few things? |
| 17:26.58 | Eiviyn | Probably via donations |
| 17:27.07 | Jum-Jum | no mattavich-377 |
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| 17:27.09 | Eiviyn | They'd be silly to not allow donations |
| 17:27.22 | ReckeD | matta, i beleive ice_frog got something from HoNs |
| 17:27.25 | Jum-Jum | Then they are silly. |
| 17:27.38 | Jum-Jum | Yeah he worked with the HoN team in the early stages |
| 17:27.52 | ReckeD | im sure he would have been reimbursed for that |
| 17:28.07 | ReckeD | especially seeing as they profited fomr it |
| 17:28.13 | Sixen | class, afk |
| 17:28.47 | marine63 | :l |
| 17:29.04 | goomba_ | wow that warp in immortal thread |
| 17:29.08 | ReckeD | Anyone? SEA? play test? there will be lots of hugs and candy |
| 17:29.10 | goomba_ | epic win |
| 17:29.23 | Eiviyn | Why do they have to fix this by removing hidden abilities |
| 17:29.23 | marine63 | how to put number of minerals you got in text dialog box |
| 17:29.29 | Eiviyn | Why not just remove the immortal from the gateway |
| 17:29.34 | mattavich-377 | The map ive created could be a type of professional map hopefully |
| 17:29.42 | goomba_ | idk |
| 17:29.45 | goomba_ | its an easy fix |
| 17:29.50 | goomba_ | take it off the gateways abilities |
| 17:29.53 | Eiviyn | I mean you can open the editor and see the immortal right there in the gateway training list |
| 17:30.03 | mattavich-377 | 8 hours until deadline for contest? |
| 17:33.58 | mattavich-377 | how long awya is the deadline? |
| 17:34.24 | ReckeD | marine, you refering to minerals total? |
| 17:34.39 | marine63 | yeah |
| 17:34.48 | ReckeD | into a dialog label? |
| 17:34.49 | marine63 | i think i have a lead |
| 17:34.52 | marine63 | yeah |
| 17:34.54 | marine63 | i have |
| 17:35.01 | marine63 | create label |
| 17:35.13 | marine63 | make gold amt = interget |
| 17:35.45 | marine63 | set gold amt to player property then property minerals |
| 17:36.13 | marine63 | set gold label to text(gold amt) |
| 17:36.18 | marine63 | then show gold label |
| 17:36.34 | marine63 | seems right doesnt it? |
| 17:37.02 | marine63 | oh yeah convert interget to text |
| 17:39.27 | marine63 | i might as well pay people to make my map :P |
| 17:40.32 | ReckeD | iv considered doing that for actors |
| 17:40.40 | ReckeD | actors is my choke, i fucking hate them |
| 17:45.50 | Eiviyn | What |
| 17:45.53 | Eiviyn | Why? |
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| 17:46.58 | Resinate | sometimes i wish i didnt make 50+ dialogs |
| 17:46.59 | Resinate | LOL |
| 17:47.22 | Resinate | marine use paste bin |
| 17:47.25 | Resinate | so ppl can see ur code |
| 17:47.27 | Resinate | to help u |
| 17:47.40 | ReckeD | eiviyn, none of my shit works, even the simple stuff |
| 17:47.47 | ReckeD | and iv just given up on them to be honest |
| 17:48.01 | Eiviyn | Well, what were you trying to make work? |
| 17:48.03 | ReckeD | i cant even get a simple projectile to launch from the correct attachment point |
| 17:48.15 | ReckeD | high templar, firing a projectile from weaponleft |
| 17:48.26 | ReckeD | how hard can it be right? |
| 17:48.33 | Eiviyn | Screenshot your attack actor and I'll try fixing it |
| 17:48.44 | ReckeD | you want the events? |
| 17:48.49 | ReckeD | or the whole thing? |
| 17:49.07 | Eiviyn | For events I'm just going to assume you copied another unit's attack events, which is fine and will work |
| 17:49.11 | Eiviyn | Just the data entries |
| 17:51.39 | Blacksoldier | MOOOH |
| 17:55.29 | mattavich-377 | How do the permanent cloaks work for heros like zeratul, tosh and nova? |
| 17:55.38 | mattavich-377 | it sint a behavior i dont think |
| 17:55.47 | mattavich-377 | i cant find it in data editor |
| 17:56.25 | jorgenpt | mattavich-377: A flag? |
| 17:56.46 | ReckeD | effect is my guess |
| 17:57.05 | mattavich-377 | ah ye sit says cloaked |
| 17:57.12 | mattavich-377 | my problem is iw ant them to uncloak when in a region |
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| 17:57.28 | mattavich-377 | my only idea is to use the permanently cloaked behavior and add/remove when they enter/leave |
| 17:57.41 | mattavich-377 | is there a way to just say "reveal thsi region" |
| 17:57.54 | mattavich-377 | the visibility revealer doesnt reveal cloake dunits, just fog of war |
| 17:58.25 | ReckeD | why cant you creat a dummy unit in the region that has detector? |
| 17:58.32 | ReckeD | or do you want them to be actually uncloaked? |
| 17:59.00 | mattavich-377 | actually uncloeaked, there are 8 player sin the game |
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| 17:59.08 | mattavich-377 | and iw ant it to be on the exact region if possible |
| 18:00.40 | Blacksoldier | hmm i want to reduce the incoming damage by a percentage - just to be right... do i have to reate a buff behaviour and modify the field "damage response - modify fraction" to percentage of damage taken? (5% reduce -> 0.95) |
| 18:00.51 | SweetZombieJesus | matt |
| 18:00.53 | SweetZombieJesus | there is a thing |
| 18:00.55 | SweetZombieJesus | lemme check |
| 18:01.00 | Blacksoldier | or is it possible to be set in the unit directly? |
| 18:01.06 | mattavich-377 | ah SZJ :d |
| 18:01.14 | SweetZombieJesus | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.16 | mattavich-377 | BTW, I think i found a bug in your library |
| 18:01.26 | SweetZombieJesus | you can add that behavior when they enter the region |
| 18:01.31 | SweetZombieJesus | and remove when they exit that region |
| 18:01.45 | mattavich-377 | ahhhh SUPRESS the cloak, |
| 18:01.59 | mattavich-377 | so that isnt adding or removing anything jsut stopping it working? |
| 18:02.01 | mattavich-377 | that si awesome |
| 18:02.08 | SweetZombieJesus | ye |
| 18:02.10 | SweetZombieJesus | i am awesome |
| 18:02.12 | SweetZombieJesus | now tell me the bug |
| 18:02.13 | mattavich-377 | stfu :P |
| 18:02.24 | mattavich-377 | remember the bug at the start of my map, the trigger |
| 18:02.33 | mattavich-377 | well the bug comes form the flashing clock |
| 18:02.43 | SweetZombieJesus | nah it doesnt |
| 18:02.44 | Natut | Sweepingzero here? |
| 18:02.47 | mattavich-377 | it waits 5.0 game seconds or rl second sif orget |
| 18:03.03 | SweetZombieJesus | theres no bug there |
| 18:03.10 | mattavich-377 | depending on the length of the timer though |
| 18:03.14 | mattavich-377 | it will soemtimes wait |
| 18:03.21 | mattavich-377 | and the dialogs are already removed |
| 18:03.33 | mattavich-377 | and it is waiting and then trying to "flash" ocne more |
| 18:03.45 | SweetZombieJesus | ok well |
| 18:03.46 | SweetZombieJesus | then |
| 18:03.58 | SweetZombieJesus | add a stop all instances of trigger period updates |
| 18:04.06 | SweetZombieJesus | in end hero pick complete, where the trigger is turned off |
| 18:05.11 | mattavich-377 | ok done, will test in a min |
| 18:05.16 | SweetZombieJesus | but |
| 18:05.18 | SweetZombieJesus | ive never seen it |
| 18:05.26 | SweetZombieJesus | though it is theoretically possible for that to happen |
| 18:06.12 | SweetZombieJesus | hm my map is done i think |
| 18:06.17 | SweetZombieJesus | any last minute comments? |
| 18:06.24 | SweetZombieJesus | i gotta test it wiht 8 people though |
| 18:07.19 | ReckeD | http://img517.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=attackactorevents.jpg |
| 18:07.46 | ReckeD | $5 (virtual) to anyone who can work out why my projectile isnt launching from the specified attachment point |
| 18:07.56 | SweetZombieJesus | actionimpact? |
| 18:08.12 | ReckeD | put that into a sentence for me? |
| 18:08.18 | mattavich-377 | you got launch query sorted? |
| 18:08.18 | SweetZombieJesus | why ? |
| 18:08.26 | SweetZombieJesus | what does action impact do there? |
| 18:08.31 | mattavich-377 | and have you checked the model for the attachment point sin previewer? |
| 18:08.43 | mattavich-377 | make sure it is the right attachment |
| 18:08.46 | ReckeD | model is hightemplar, he has a weaponleft |
| 18:09.01 | ReckeD | zombie, i have no idea, what does it do there? |
| 18:09.08 | SweetZombieJesus | nm |
| 18:09.08 | SweetZombieJesus | so |
| 18:09.10 | SweetZombieJesus | what happens? |
| 18:09.13 | SweetZombieJesus | does it shoot at all? |
| 18:09.14 | ReckeD | no idea |
| 18:09.19 | ReckeD | yeah |
| 18:09.24 | ReckeD | but projectile launches at ground |
| 18:09.33 | SweetZombieJesus | so |
| 18:09.41 | SweetZombieJesus | sopAttachWeapon in launch site ops |
| 18:09.44 | SweetZombieJesus | you said weapon left |
| 18:09.51 | SweetZombieJesus | shouldnt that be weaponleft too then? |
| 18:09.52 | Blacksoldier | someone read my question? |
| 18:09.54 | Blacksoldier | ;-)+ |
| 18:10.15 | SweetZombieJesus | dunno Blacksoldier :P |
| 18:10.22 | mattavich-377 | if it shoots form ground the attachment is not working or not correct |
| 18:10.26 | SweetZombieJesus | if it aint bugged, its possible in the editor! |
| 18:11.29 | ReckeD | changed siteop, to weaponleft, still on the ground |
| 18:11.53 | mattavich-377 | have you checked the model has a weaponeleft attachment? |
| 18:12.07 | mattavich-377 | and also that the launch query+ si correct? |
| 18:12.09 | ReckeD | yes, check for yourself, high templar, weaponleft |
| 18:12.18 | ReckeD | how i check that one matta? |
| 18:12.21 | SweetZombieJesus | try fiddling with Launch Site |
| 18:12.23 | ReckeD | the launch query? |
| 18:12.26 | SweetZombieJesus | its on generic now |
| 18:12.33 | SweetZombieJesus | which i suspect might be center ground |
| 18:12.47 | mattavich-377 | go to attack actor |
| 18:12.50 | mattavich-377 | launch attachment query |
| 18:12.57 | mattavich-377 | make sure that is the right siteop |
| 18:13.08 | ReckeD | set to filter AMweapon |
| 18:13.11 | SweetZombieJesus | beams sux |
| 18:13.20 | ReckeD | i thought that would launch from any attachment that has weapon in it? |
| 18:13.48 | mattavich-377 | i dno, im a noob but had this problem for hours and eventually figured that it is these fields that need editing |
| 18:13.58 | SweetZombieJesus | matty you wanna do a quick minigame bugtest? yesterdays bugs shouldbe all gone |
| 18:14.05 | ReckeD | yeah, i feel like im banging me head against a wall with it |
| 18:14.32 | mattavich-377 | yes in 2 mins just getting this decloak to work |
| 18:14.34 | Blacksoldier | minimaps? |
| 18:14.35 | Blacksoldier | yeah |
| 18:14.38 | Blacksoldier | would like to test |
| 18:14.41 | Blacksoldier | eu? |
| 18:14.43 | mattavich-377 | wait for me :P |
| 18:15.07 | SweetZombieJesus | anyone else? |
| 18:15.17 | Technomancer | anyone else what? |
| 18:15.23 | Blacksoldier | u could do a wild west duel ;-) first shoot = win.... |
| 18:15.25 | mattavich-377 | 2 mins pls wait! |
| 18:15.32 | SweetZombieJesus | ok in 2 mins |
| 18:15.38 | SweetZombieJesus | testing my map |
| 18:15.43 | Blacksoldier | eu? |
| 18:15.44 | SweetZombieJesus | near release version |
| 18:15.45 | SweetZombieJesus | eu |
| 18:15.49 | Blacksoldier | k |
| 18:15.50 | Technomancer | oh shit |
| 18:15.53 | Technomancer | im us XD |
| 18:15.55 | Technomancer | sorry m8 |
| 18:15.57 | SweetZombieJesus | :< |
| 18:16.07 | Technomancer | I wish we werent limited to continent |
| 18:16.14 | Technomancer | I wanna kick-ass worldwide! |
| 18:16.20 | SweetZombieJesus | :D |
| 18:16.28 | ReckeD | same techno |
| 18:16.29 | SweetZombieJesus | matty how big is your map? |
| 18:16.35 | ReckeD | its retarded you cant even publish maps worldwide |
| 18:16.41 | Technomancer | D:< |
| 18:16.43 | Technomancer | that is |
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| 18:17.35 | SweetZombieJesus | lol my map is 609kb... with pretty preview picture its 1.00mb |
| 18:17.43 | SweetZombieJesus | that 1 picture is almost 50% |
| 18:17.45 | Blacksoldier | SZJ - whats ur character name/code? (Me Blacksoldier-974) |
| 18:17.53 | SweetZombieJesus | alpha.940 |
| 18:17.57 | SuraklinSC2 | yawns. |
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| 18:18.10 | Technomancer | ok I have a quick model-related quesiton, and I know most people dont do models here so w/e if no one knows, but... is it possible to change textures for a model without having to take the model into 3DS? |
| 18:18.19 | SweetZombieJesus | Xaragoth come play! banelings await |
| 18:18.19 | ReckeD | does every model have a head attachment point? |
| 18:18.21 | SweetZombieJesus | also nukes now |
| 18:18.28 | IskatuMesk | hex editing I think technomancer |
| 18:18.37 | Technomancer | what would I use to do that? |
| 18:18.40 | IskatuMesk | no idea |
| 18:18.50 | mattavich-377 | SZJ about 9mb |
| 18:18.53 | Blacksoldier | my friend is asking to join ;-) |
| 18:18.54 | Technomancer | I tried doing the code in notepad, it imported as a nullsphere |
| 18:18.55 | SweetZombieJesus | compressed? |
| 18:18.56 | mattavich-377 | BTW, supress cloak works great |
| 18:18.58 | mattavich-377 | yeh |
| 18:19.03 | SweetZombieJesus | oO |
| 18:19.06 | SweetZombieJesus | why so big |
| 18:19.10 | mattavich-377 | and that timer bug is fixed now |
| 18:19.13 | SweetZombieJesus | mine is 1mb compressed |
| 18:19.20 | mattavich-377 | just loads of units that aint even used and lots of triggers i think |
| 18:19.25 | SweetZombieJesus | =/ |
| 18:19.26 | IskatuMesk | all I know is I spent apparently 507 minutes exporting that model last night and it actually broke even MORE instead of getting fixed |
| 18:19.42 | SweetZombieJesus | so you ready matt? |
| 18:19.45 | mattavich-377 | yeah |
| 18:21.03 | SweetZombieJesus | who else in for Minigame Mayhem ? |
| 18:21.15 | SuraklinSC2 | Mayhem? |
| 18:21.22 | SweetZombieJesus | Mayhem! |
| 18:21.28 | SuraklinSC2 | Of minigames? |
| 18:21.39 | SuraklinSC2 | US? ^^ |
| 18:21.39 | SweetZombieJesus | Of minigames! |
| 18:21.41 | SweetZombieJesus | eu |
| 18:21.45 | SuraklinSC2 | Gross. |
| 18:21.45 | SuraklinSC2 | :/ |
| 18:22.26 | SweetZombieJesus | now now |
| 18:22.40 | SweetZombieJesus | Otixa Xaragoth come plaaay |
| 18:23.00 | Vortexx_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.28 | Vortexx_ | anyone know a good tutorial for dialog triggers? |
| 18:23.52 | SweetZombieJesus | could use 4 more for testings (EU) |
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| 18:24.19 | SuraklinSC2 | mmm, dialogs. |
| 18:24.57 | Xaragoth | jesus |
| 18:25.00 | Xaragoth | we're having custom live |
| 18:25.01 | Xaragoth | come and play |
| 18:25.07 | Alcoholix | come come |
| 18:25.13 | Alcoholix | I think I'll join |
| 18:25.39 | SycoPrime | How would I use triggers to create an object that's just begun construction? |
| 18:26.12 | ReckeD | maybe create an invisible dummy unit that will auto-cast the build for it? |
| 18:26.49 | SweetZombieJesus | maybe after my bugtest run xara |
| 18:27.26 | SycoPrime | Xaragoth: Wouldn't tomorrow be a better day for custom live? :p (What with all the maps getting released) |
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| 18:30.18 | Resinate | WOW |
| 18:30.22 | Resinate | u can submit more than 1 map LOL |
| 18:30.35 | Alcoholix | custom live is in the eu? |
| 18:30.49 | Resinate | oh yea that should be a winner of a map now |
| 18:30.55 | Clord | >_> you didn't beleive what you read? |
| 18:30.56 | Clord | XD |
| 18:31.02 | Clord | it says it is EU so it is EU |
| 18:31.03 | Clord | ^^ |
| 18:31.09 | Resinate | ? |
| 18:31.11 | Resinate | whats EU? |
| 18:31.19 | IskatuMesk | tea and crumpets |
| 18:31.27 | SuraklinSC2 | French. |
| 18:31.28 | SuraklinSC2 | ;) |
| 18:31.30 | Resinate | dont make me sing little tea pot |
| 18:31.33 | SuraklinSC2 | EU means you're french. |
| 18:31.38 | Clord | soda poppers! |
| 18:31.39 | Clord | XD |
| 18:31.43 | SycoPrime | EU hasn't been french since Napoleon died >_> |
| 18:32.35 | Clord | EU aka arE you stUpid |
| 18:32.37 | Clord | ^^ |
| 18:32.41 | Clord | just joking ;) |
| 18:32.50 | Clord | european union lol...... |
| 18:33.16 | Clord | nowadays it is typical to use word EU to mean europe |
| 18:33.18 | Clord | too.... |
| 18:33.28 | Clord | unless it breaks up |
| 18:33.37 | ReckeD | Clord, are you good with actors? |
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| 18:34.37 | Clord | I mostly have just needed to modify sizes of actors |
| 18:35.38 | ReckeD | wha about attack actors attachments? |
| 18:36.02 | ReckeD | cant get this bloody actor working =/ |
| 18:37.30 | SuraklinSC2 | Awww. |
| 18:37.35 | SuraklinSC2 | Does it explode? ^^ |
| 18:38.07 | SuraklinSC2 | What's the exact problem? :P |
| 18:38.29 | ReckeD | sliding along the ground |
| 18:38.38 | SuraklinSC2 | ? |
| 18:38.40 | SuraklinSC2 | Missile? |
| 18:38.46 | ReckeD | yes sorry the projectile |
| 18:39.06 | SuraklinSC2 | Attach points I guess. |
| 18:39.24 | ReckeD | yeah, been over it a dozen times, cant get it attaching correctly |
| 18:39.27 | SuraklinSC2 | I've got a bunch of missiles in mine... what kind are you using? |
| 18:39.44 | ReckeD | the hybrid projectile |
| 18:40.11 | ReckeD | HybridCPlasmaAttackMissile |
| 18:40.25 | ReckeD | http://img517.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=attackactorevents.jpg |
| 18:40.33 | SuraklinSC2 | And it's tied to a normal attack then? |
| 18:41.08 | ReckeD | a normal attack? |
| 18:41.19 | ReckeD | its just a basic launch projectile attack |
| 18:41.21 | SuraklinSC2 | Like, a weapon. |
| 18:41.25 | SuraklinSC2 | Rather than an ability. |
| 18:41.55 | ReckeD | yeah, weapon |
| 18:42.27 | SweetZombieJesus | ok comments? |
| 18:42.32 | SweetZombieJesus | mattavich-377 Blacksoldier |
| 18:42.49 | mattavich-377 | errrrm |
| 18:42.55 | Natut | hey i heard the content patch will come tonight |
| 18:42.56 | mattavich-377 | Treat us like ABSOLUTE idiots |
| 18:42.59 | Natut | in approximately 4 hours |
| 18:43.05 | mattavich-377 | you need to hold out hand and tell us what to do |
| 18:43.07 | SuraklinSC2 | Field(CTB) Marauder Frag Grenade Attack |
| 18:43.07 | Natut | is that true ? |
| 18:43.09 | SweetZombieJesus | lol i know |
| 18:43.09 | SuraklinSC2 | Target - Launch Site Ops +SOpAttachHarness:Disabled:Disabled |
| 18:43.20 | mattavich-377 | maybe on the loading screen make text bigger so noobs like me dont miss it |
| 18:43.25 | SuraklinSC2 | I've got that for the last bit. |
| 18:43.31 | mattavich-377 | best thing about the map is that you cna jsut keep adding minigames |
| 18:43.37 | SweetZombieJesus | ye |
| 18:43.38 | mattavich-377 | i suppose the only thing is creating more |
| 18:43.39 | SweetZombieJesus | its templates |
| 18:44.01 | mattavich-377 | i like wall-o |
| 18:44.05 | mattavich-377 | nukes thing |
| 18:44.07 | mattavich-377 | banelings |
| 18:44.07 | Clord | minigame map is rather easy to do... different thing is to make minigames good... I guess simple is amusing ;) |
| 18:44.13 | SweetZombieJesus | what dont you like and why? |
| 18:44.26 | mattavich-377 | im not fusse don simon says and stuff liek that |
| 18:44.27 | SweetZombieJesus | cept the bugged one lol |
| 18:44.29 | mattavich-377 | but thats me |
| 18:44.45 | Clord | I should probably finally do minigame map what I actually release |
| 18:44.46 | Clord | lol |
| 18:44.57 | SweetZombieJesus | just make minigames for me |
| 18:45.04 | mattavich-377 | do a gauntlet minigame |
| 18:45.14 | mattavich-377 | first one to reach the end of the "trial" wins |
| 18:45.23 | SweetZombieJesus | maybes |
| 18:45.24 | mattavich-377 | they had a lot fo those in age of empires custom maps |
| 18:45.32 | Clord | pyramid escape is king of the minigame maps still... lol |
| 18:45.42 | Natut | noone read me? do you know if its true that the content patch with chatchannels etc will come online in 4 hours approx. |
| 18:46.03 | SweetZombieJesus | i still need to make hero info text :S |
| 18:46.05 | Clord | I want to do it like pyramid escape with actual mini plot ;) aka try to win enough minigames together to survive out from there |
| 18:46.06 | SweetZombieJesus | i dont want t o... |
| 18:46.25 | SweetZombieJesus | btw matt |
| 18:46.28 | Clord | content patch comes soon |
| 18:46.29 | Clord | ^^ |
| 18:46.34 | Clord | it adds stuff |
| 18:46.35 | Clord | great stuff |
| 18:46.37 | Clord | like chat rooms |
| 18:46.39 | SweetZombieJesus | wtf |
| 18:46.48 | SweetZombieJesus | stupid weird thing |
| 18:46.51 | mattavich-377 | ? |
| 18:46.55 | SweetZombieJesus | if i add computers, they are automatically hostile |
| 18:47.00 | mattavich-377 | add my map in your map as a minigame lol |
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| 18:47.03 | SweetZombieJesus | if i change them to users, we are all allies |
| 18:47.07 | Natut | sweet, never seen terminator? |
| 18:47.09 | SweetZombieJesus | lol |
| 18:47.11 | Natut | thats the truth |
| 18:47.18 | SweetZombieJesus | lol ;D |
| 18:47.22 | Natut | computers are our ENEMIES |
| 18:47.38 | Natut | ok, arnie not |
| 18:47.55 | Natut | but arnie is gov of california |
| 18:48.00 | Clord | Arnold... badly outdated... out performs own model! ^^ |
| 18:48.07 | Clord | I mean as terminator |
| 18:48.08 | Clord | lol |
| 18:48.35 | Technomancer | How do I change where a weapon is shot from on the model? ;_; my situation is I wanna shoot something out the eye on the sentry like his regular eye beam, and it keeps coming out from under his center |
| 18:48.57 | Technomancer | I tried making attachments match, still same : / |
| 18:49.03 | Natut | i think the projectile is the problem |
| 18:49.07 | Natut | not the attachment point |
| 18:49.21 | mattavich-377 | i'm going to submit my map now |
| 18:49.25 | Natut | because the beam origin seems to be slighty offset from the center |
| 18:49.29 | Natut | what map |
| 18:49.30 | Technomancer | ok how do I adjust it in data? |
| 18:49.35 | Natut | you cant |
| 18:49.40 | Natut | you have to edit the model |
| 18:49.44 | Technomancer | fffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 18:49.48 | SweetZombieJesus | gl mattavich-377 :D |
| 18:50.04 | Clord | ^seen evildos |
| 18:50.08 | Clord | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 18:50.09 | Technomancer | Some models cant be edited D:< |
| 18:50.18 | Technomancer | like beam or light effects |
| 18:50.20 | Clord | ~seen evildos |
| 18:50.37 | purl | i haven't seen 'evildos', Clord |
| 18:50.37 | Natut | not YET |
| 18:50.37 | Natut | xD |
| 18:50.37 | Technomancer | some go horribly wrong |
| 18:50.37 | Technomancer | well |
| 18:50.37 | Technomancer | that doesnt really help me NAO! |
| 18:50.51 | Technomancer | so you're basically saying.. i'm...fucked? o.o |
| 18:51.17 | Natut | if you wanna use the sentry model |
| 18:51.24 | Natut | you are restricted to the basic beam |
| 18:51.26 | Natut | it seems |
| 18:51.48 | Technomancer | I use the basic beam for the weapon, its an ability im tryin to add that does it, but same shit applies |
| 18:52.21 | Technomancer | Natut: do you know of a way to edit the code for an m3 without im/exporting it? |
| 18:52.44 | Technomancer | I mean workin with the xyz coords, dont care about seeing it, I dont need to the now |
| 18:52.53 | Natut | no idea |
| 18:52.54 | Natut | xD |
| 18:53.12 | Technomancer | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 18:54.17 | Technomancer | ok Natut |
| 18:54.19 | Technomancer | another Q |
| 18:54.25 | Technomancer | since you seem to know somewhat about this |
| 18:54.39 | Technomancer | When I import the sentry and export it again, the energy ball it holds, is static |
| 18:54.40 | Natut | i like the 'seem' part |
| 18:54.59 | Technomancer | how do I make it animate like the original sentry's? |
| 18:55.13 | Technomancer | im just reskinning the models, no poly changes |
| 18:55.17 | Natut | i dont know what you mean with "import and export" |
| 18:55.26 | Resinate | ROFL GUYS |
| 18:55.30 | Technomancer | taking it into 3DS and putting it back out |
| 18:55.34 | Technomancer | ok so you dont know shit, nvm |
| 18:55.34 | Resinate | this is how bad maplestory hacking is |
| 18:55.35 | Resinate | http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr9/BrynnMountain/500WATKStonetooth.jpg |
| 18:55.36 | Natut | 3ds |
| 18:55.43 | Natut | i just wanted to know the format |
| 18:55.45 | Natut | lol |
| 18:55.52 | Resinate | if anyone here plays the game |
| 18:55.58 | Resinate | ull understand why XD |
| 18:56.02 | Technomancer | .m3 file |
| 18:56.09 | Technomancer | and 3DS is 3d studio max |
| 18:56.12 | Natut | i know |
| 18:56.13 | Technomancer | thats the program I use |
| 18:56.13 | Natut | lol |
| 18:56.27 | Natut | i modeled stuff myself in 3dsmax |
| 18:56.34 | Natut | but i rarely use 3ds format |
| 18:56.44 | Natut | because it often doesnt support textures, animations and shit |
| 18:56.53 | Technomancer | well I use the m3 plugins |
| 18:56.57 | Resinate | well guys time to make my video |
| 18:57.05 | Technomancer | is there another program u use? |
| 18:57.14 | Natut | i dont model in sc2 yet |
| 18:57.23 | Technomancer | Resinate is there a guide as to how that was done? XD |
| 18:57.55 | Resinate | the hacked weapon in maple? |
| 18:57.59 | Resinate | dude if i knew LOL |
| 18:58.04 | Resinate | i would do it |
| 18:58.12 | Resinate | they have those scrolls for liek 3 mil |
| 18:58.20 | Resinate | but someone hacked i think |
| 18:58.24 | Resinate | 80% chance to work |
| 18:58.28 | Resinate | and 4 in a row failed |
| 18:58.39 | Technomancer | I dont play it |
| 18:58.50 | Technomancer | I just am interested in the mechanics behind hackin it |
| 18:58.59 | Resinate | its packet editing |
| 18:59.08 | Resinate | i will not lie when i say this |
| 18:59.10 | Technomancer | cheat engine? |
| 18:59.18 | Resinate | some of the worlds best game hackers |
| 18:59.23 | Resinate | comes from maplestory |
| 18:59.33 | Resinate | cheat engine is like 4 yrs ago LOL |
| 18:59.37 | Resinate | they have new shit now |
| 18:59.43 | Technomancer | liek? |
| 18:59.50 | Resinate | they use dll injectors |
| 19:00.21 | Resinate | anyways brb |
| 19:00.26 | Resinate | making a video of my map |
| 19:00.34 | Technomancer | kk |
| 19:00.35 | SycoPrime | I'm pretty sure I saw (unit) actors creating sounds. If that is possible, does anyone know the command? |
| 19:02.21 | Natut | techno i just looked into the sentry model |
| 19:02.27 | Natut | no clue how the ball is animated in it |
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| 19:04.30 | Resinate | WOW |
| 19:04.37 | Resinate | gotta remake my video |
| 19:04.37 | Resinate | LOL |
| 19:04.46 | Resinate | 3 mins of 1080p was 9 gigs LOL |
| 19:05.07 | Natut | SWEEPINGZERO |
| 19:05.09 | Natut | YOU THERE? |
| 19:05.11 | Clord | what odd is with that? |
| 19:05.14 | Clord | if it is raw |
| 19:05.16 | Clord | =) |
| 19:05.18 | Natut | SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPINGZERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 19:05.19 | Resinate | lol |
| 19:05.21 | mattavich-377 | http://yfrog.com/j3omgskyj |
| 19:05.23 | Resinate | too big for what i aded |
| 19:05.25 | Resinate | wanted |
| 19:05.27 | mattavich-377 | 60 days |
| 19:05.29 | mattavich-377 | of work |
| 19:05.37 | Clord | that why you compress it before uploading |
| 19:05.38 | Clord | d'oh |
| 19:05.39 | Clord | ^^ |
| 19:05.45 | Resinate | 60 days |
| 19:05.46 | Resinate | LOL |
| 19:05.50 | Resinate | my 4 days of work will pwn that |
| 19:05.52 | mattavich-377 | aye |
| 19:05.55 | SweetZombieJesus | woot |
| 19:05.58 | SweetZombieJesus | hotkey support |
| 19:06.01 | mattavich-377 | hehe |
| 19:06.03 | SweetZombieJesus | limited though working |
| 19:06.08 | mattavich-377 | so when can i go publish wiht my map? lol |
| 19:06.13 | Resinate | matt |
| 19:06.13 | Resinate | dont |
| 19:06.17 | Resinate | itll void ur map |
| 19:06.17 | Technomancer | um use h264 lol |
| 19:06.28 | Resinate | thats why i took mine off BNET |
| 19:06.29 | Resinate | LOL |
| 19:06.29 | mattavich-377 | you can go public after deadline i think |
| 19:06.33 | Suterusu | gonna lol when they say like "we were looking for melee maps" |
| 19:06.40 | Resinate | go public on 9/12 |
| 19:06.44 | Resinate | to be safe |
| 19:06.57 | mattavich-377 | ti might go delete ym map off bnet |
| 19:07.01 | Resinate | my map is a Melee map |
| 19:07.08 | mattavich-377 | it si private |
| 19:07.10 | Dogmai | So i have a wee little annoyance, whenever a hero goes near a tower it always targets the hero over other units, ie, it will stop attacking to redirect, anyone know how to fix that? |
| 19:07.16 | Resinate | ROFL |
| 19:07.25 | Resinate | u dont save as private |
| 19:07.25 | Clord | priority |
| 19:07.26 | Clord | in unit info |
| 19:07.27 | Clord | ^^ |
| 19:07.37 | mattavich-377 | my map wouldnt be possible if it couldnt be tested |
| 19:07.42 | Dogmai | Yeah, i changed priority to below creep level and above, but it still does it |
| 19:07.53 | Resinate | its under combat |
| 19:07.55 | Resinate | on unit |
| 19:07.59 | Resinate | set it to 9 |
| 19:08.01 | Dogmai | I guess I will find out in a few days if my weeks of scripting actually work when i can test it |
| 19:08.01 | Resinate | 0* |
| 19:08.04 | Dogmai | theoritically it should |
| 19:08.14 | Dogmai | or that is the plan |
| 19:08.16 | Resinate | i tested my map |
| 19:08.20 | Resinate | the good news is |
| 19:08.21 | Resinate | LOL |
| 19:08.26 | Resinate | it never made it on BNET list |
| 19:08.54 | Clord | there was that one guy who was not able to balance contest entry unless people tell if map is balanced ^^ |
| 19:09.03 | Clord | whatever |
| 19:09.04 | Resinate | guys |
| 19:09.15 | Resinate | whats the link to the 2 min terran vrs protoss game |
| 19:09.26 | Clord | ladder? yawn |
| 19:09.27 | Clord | XD |
| 19:09.31 | Resinate | no no |
| 19:09.33 | mattavich-377 | eh? |
| 19:09.33 | Resinate | the video |
| 19:09.37 | mattavich-377 | no one make smcuh sense here |
| 19:09.43 | mattavich-377 | my typos make more sense |
| 19:09.44 | Resinate | its most funniest video ever made |
| 19:09.57 | Clord | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.59 | Clord | ^^ |
| 19:10.08 | Clord | >_> |
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| 19:11.17 | Clord | otherwise you would tell your typo to make more sense |
| 19:11.18 | Clord | XD |
| 19:11.23 | Dogmai | Combat - Attack Target Priority10 |
| 19:11.33 | Clord | :) |
| 19:11.33 | Dogmai | it will still go over creeps that are 20 |
| 19:12.28 | Dogmai | or does subgroup priority play into it |
| 19:12.29 | Resinate | http://technology.todaysbigthing.com/2010/09/07 |
| 19:12.32 | Clord | typically units not switch their target assuming it can shoot back until it is dead |
| 19:12.33 | Resinate | MOST EPIC WIN EVER |
| 19:13.57 | Dogmai | it does =\ |
| 19:13.59 | Dogmai | and its annoying |
| 19:14.23 | Natut | SWEEPINGZERO |
| 19:14.25 | Natut | OH OH OH |
| 19:14.38 | Clord | overlooked major bug |
| 19:15.09 | Clord | oh right |
| 19:15.16 | Clord | it is not really that much bug |
| 19:15.21 | Clord | that guy just left |
| 19:15.27 | Clord | didn't listen audio so I'm probably wrong |
| 19:15.28 | Clord | ^^ |
| 19:15.46 | Dogmai | that is fucken funny as shit |
| 19:15.50 | Dogmai | good find Resinate |
| 19:16.24 | Resinate | it was posted here a few days ago |
| 19:16.29 | Clord | many pro players quit even if they have chance to win............ |
| 19:16.31 | Dogmai | yeah well |
| 19:16.34 | Clord | this is another example of such play |
| 19:16.34 | Clord | XD |
| 19:16.39 | Dogmai | not often i am up this late |
| 19:16.40 | Dogmai | oh wait |
| 19:16.50 | Dogmai | i have been up this late everynight for 3 bloody weeks |
| 19:16.51 | Dogmai | damnit |
| 19:17.01 | Dogmai | seriously, im getting sick hey |
| 19:17.02 | Resinate | the guy typed out a fake error LOL |
| 19:17.09 | Dogmai | just too run down, 16 hours a day scripting and editing |
| 19:17.23 | Clord | while great skill of play in pro level is great... it also makes situations where you still can win as "I can't win so I ragequit" |
| 19:17.24 | Clord | XD |
| 19:17.33 | Dogmai | i dont even want to know how much weight i put on |
| 19:17.38 | Dogmai | i feel bigger =\ |
| 19:17.51 | Natut | im 70 kg with 185 cm |
| 19:17.56 | Natut | is that much? |
| 19:18.08 | Dogmai | Good for you, my girlfriend is 42kgs |
| 19:18.10 | Dogmai | She wins |
| 19:18.11 | Clord | spam email tells that you can still grow "it" few niches |
| 19:18.14 | Clord | inches |
| 19:18.30 | Clord | >_> |
| 19:19.13 | Clord | 42kg..... this rate her weight is least of her problems.... when side effects come from such thing |
| 19:19.39 | AsaPhelps | I don't think you should be dating 11 year olds |
| 19:21.55 | Resinate | WOOT |
| 19:22.00 | Resinate | they finally fixed splash pro |
| 19:22.16 | SycoPrime | I'm pretty sure I saw (unit) actors creating sounds. If that is possible, does anyone know the command, or an actor I could check? |
| 19:22.34 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 19:22.59 | Dogmai | you're not the first person to tell me that AsaPhelps |
| 19:23.20 | Dogmai | though, funnily enough, she is older than me |
| 19:23.22 | Dogmai | go figure |
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| 19:23.34 | Blacksoldier | hmm |
| 19:23.34 | Natut | hmm |
| 19:23.37 | Blacksoldier | one question |
| 19:23.44 | Natut | Spewingzero here? |
| 19:23.46 | Natut | xD |
| 19:23.52 | Blacksoldier | i want to do an upgrade with 3 stages |
| 19:24.04 | Blacksoldier | do i have to do 3 upgrades therefor? |
| 19:24.10 | Blacksoldier | each one has same effect |
| 19:24.45 | Clord | SCII leaves it up to you |
| 19:24.46 | Blacksoldier | so - i just need the code for the requirement to say "viewing requires upgrade stage 1/2/3" |
| 19:24.50 | Clord | how you want to implement it |
| 19:25.10 | Blacksoldier | i say count upgrades is equal 1 |
| 19:25.13 | Blacksoldier | for stage one |
| 19:25.17 | Blacksoldier | but this doesnt work |
| 19:25.21 | Blacksoldier | :-/ |
| 19:25.54 | Resinate | does anyone know a good tool to compress AVI files |
| 19:26.11 | Blacksoldier | Count upgrade - upgrade name - total ==1 is my requirement |
| 19:26.25 | mattavich-377 | dogmai take the dog for a walk |
| 19:26.32 | mattavich-377 | usually helps me |
| 19:26.39 | mattavich-377 | get back to reality |
| 19:27.12 | Clord | you have three options... 1) get free crap compression program 2) get good program but realize it is uselss as it is trial 3) torrent good program |
| 19:27.22 | Natut | Sweepingzero? |
| 19:27.25 | Natut | u there? |
| 19:28.55 | SweetZombieJesus | need 1 more testrun of Minigame Mayhem |
| 19:28.56 | SweetZombieJesus | anyone? |
| 19:29.00 | SweetZombieJesus | (EU) |
| 19:29.43 | Xaragoth | glows with the orange power of doom. |
| 19:30.15 | SweetZombieJesus | xara come |
| 19:30.21 | SweetZombieJesus | i have a new minigame you'll like |
| 19:30.23 | SweetZombieJesus | and hotkeys! |
| 19:30.28 | Xaragoth | some other day jesus |
| 19:30.32 | SweetZombieJesus | just 5 mins :< |
| 19:30.37 | Xaragoth | i got my parents hitting this place like a invading force tomorrow |
| 19:30.41 | SweetZombieJesus | oO |
| 19:30.50 | Xaragoth | i need to clean up the kitchen, put trash in bags and shit |
| 19:31.18 | Natut | man i want to mod but today a glass pane broke and fell on my hand.. my finger is cut so badly that i can hardly move a mouse without pain |
| 19:31.34 | ReckeD | how come when i compress my video its still 164mb |
| 19:31.49 | ReckeD | what kb/s is standard for youtube clips? |
| 19:32.23 | Xaragoth | until we meet again |
| 19:32.23 | Clord | it is normal that 10 min video as compressed is only few hundred megs |
| 19:32.25 | Clord | ^^ |
| 19:32.26 | Xaragoth | should I survive |
| 19:32.49 | Clord | assuming you don't want torment your viewers with crappy quality |
| 19:33.38 | Dogmai | Resinate, just download the whole adobe suite |
| 19:34.56 | Resinate | im good |
| 19:34.58 | Resinate | i found a tool |
| 19:35.35 | Resinate | rofl |
| 19:35.40 | Resinate | its looks so shaky |
| 19:35.44 | Resinate | cuz i played sc2 on max |
| 19:36.16 | Resinate | wow 4 gigs to 50 megs LOL |
| 19:36.46 | Natut | rrowland, you gere? |
| 19:36.48 | Natut | here? |
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| 19:38.56 | Resinate | does anyone know how to make a transparent fog? |
| 19:39.28 | Clord | Resinate... you are probably really new of this stuff not knowing that it is normal that recording stage it takes tons space... even movies are compressed to fit in DVD |
| 19:39.46 | Vortexx_ | How can I make a building give a unit an ability? |
| 19:40.09 | Dogmai | is there anyway to do, event- any unit uses any ability |
| 19:40.21 | Resinate | u kno |
| 19:40.31 | Resinate | i could finally make a slient hill game |
| 19:40.33 | Vortexx_ | Lol...ya know as I said that I thought of research. Does the unit have to have an ability on it before it can be researched? |
| 19:40.51 | Clord | of course not |
| 19:41.13 | Vortexx_ | i mean in the data editor, does the ability have to be attached to the unit already |
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| 19:42.16 | Clord | why iy should? ^^ |
| 19:42.25 | Clord | research is related to ability |
| 19:42.29 | Clord | it has nothing to do with unit itself |
| 19:42.30 | Clord | what uses it |
| 19:42.35 | Blacksoldier | i want an ability to be automatically cast as soon the necessary upgrade is available - its a morph ability... upgrade for the ability is research in another unit |
| 19:42.57 | Blacksoldier | what i did doesnt work |
| 19:43.11 | SweetZombieJesus | need 1 person for a quick release test of my map |
| 19:43.45 | Blacksoldier | SZJ - if u help me and im finished with this problem i could help testing |
| 19:43.52 | Blacksoldier | ^^ |
| 19:43.55 | Resinate | uploading a video |
| 19:43.57 | Resinate | u know |
| 19:43.57 | SweetZombieJesus | what kind of problem? |
| 19:43.59 | Blacksoldier | otherwise i have to work |
| 19:44.02 | Resinate | theres no rules on blizzard |
| 19:44.06 | Dogmai | bah |
| 19:44.09 | Resinate | saying u cant make a video LOL |
| 19:44.11 | Dogmai | divide by zero my ass |
| 19:44.13 | Dogmai | stupid universe |
| 19:44.14 | Blacksoldier | my spel doesnt autocast |
| 19:44.17 | Resinate | of the map u submitted |
| 19:44.25 | Blacksoldier | ikts a hidden spell |
| 19:44.39 | SweetZombieJesus | i dunno nothing bout that |
| 19:44.49 | Sevenix | Anyone know where I change the color of a unit?, the Color setting in Model doesnt seem to do anything.. |
| 19:44.52 | Blacksoldier | its just not inside the cmmand card |
| 19:45.10 | Blacksoldier | sevenix - may i look weird? |
| 19:45.26 | Sevenix | may you? =) |
| 19:45.33 | Blacksoldier | *iut |
| 19:45.35 | Blacksoldier | *it |
| 19:45.37 | Blacksoldier | it |
| 19:45.39 | Blacksoldier | it not i |
| 19:45.43 | Blacksoldier | +t |
| 19:45.46 | Blacksoldier | ^^ |
| 19:45.51 | Sevenix | well. I just wanted to tint it regularly like in wc3 |
| 19:45.53 | Resinate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEbcQLUFpGA |
| 19:45.55 | Resinate | enjoy guys |
| 19:46.02 | Resinate | tell ur gfs and bfs about it |
| 19:46.06 | Blacksoldier | so - just one unit or the omplete type |
| 19:46.11 | Blacksoldier | or just for one player? |
| 19:46.12 | Resinate | WOW |
| 19:46.19 | Resinate | utube fails at uploading |
| 19:46.20 | Sevenix | well the type would do |
| 19:46.24 | Blacksoldier | k |
| 19:46.29 | Blacksoldier | go to the model actor |
| 19:46.32 | Sevenix | messing aorund with the model for this, but doesnt seem to change color |
| 19:46.41 | Blacksoldier | unable the table view |
| 19:46.46 | Blacksoldier | rightclick |
| 19:46.49 | Blacksoldier | new actor |
| 19:46.58 | Blacksoldier | set actor to unit birth |
| 19:47.01 | Sevenix | yeah well i got all those setup already |
| 19:47.10 | Sevenix | just cant find the color field |
| 19:47.14 | Sevenix | one that works.. |
| 19:47.22 | Blacksoldier | below this is aanother field |
| 19:47.27 | Blacksoldier | for the actor message |
| 19:47.30 | Resinate | how di uguys make such high quatly movies LOL |
| 19:47.33 | Resinate | mines like all blurry |
| 19:47.35 | Blacksoldier | choose settintcolor |
| 19:47.54 | Blacksoldier | and in this message u could choose the color |
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| 19:54.42 | Amigo1 | Anyone here able to help me out for a second with galaxy? |
| 19:55.09 | SweetZombieJesus | just ask |
| 19:56.02 | Amigo1 | say I have a leaderboard with scores for players 1 to 15. Is there an efficient way to find out which corresponding players have the highest scores? |
| 19:56.17 | Amigo1 | without writing many IF ELSE statements? |
| 19:56.26 | SweetZombieJesus | put all scores in an array |
| 19:56.34 | SweetZombieJesus | iterate through array |
| 19:56.39 | SweetZombieJesus | for each 0 to 14 |
| 19:57.06 | Amigo1 | I got that I think, the difficulty im having is dealing with the senario where there is a tie with multiple players on the same score |
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| 19:57.20 | th15 | what about that? |
| 19:57.23 | SweetZombieJesus | then 1 if statement, if score[picked integer] > score [picked integer - 1] then set var Highest Score Player = player |
| 19:57.38 | jorgenpt | God, debugging stuff from the data editor is fucking impossible |
| 19:57.43 | SweetZombieJesus | well then the first player is the highest |
| 19:58.02 | SweetZombieJesus | to make ties possible |
| 19:58.03 | Amigo1 | (its only going to give me one winner that way) |
| 19:58.12 | SweetZombieJesus | make winner var an array |
| 19:58.22 | SweetZombieJesus | put them all on "" as name |
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| 19:58.39 | SweetZombieJesus | after the if statement, in the else if, = last score |
| 19:58.54 | th15 | i prefer finding the highest score then output all players with that score |
| 19:58.55 | SweetZombieJesus | then set second index in array to player name |
| 19:58.58 | HeyRevolver | SZJ, do you know how to get two weapon icons to show up in the middle UI if I have an inventory and can equip two different weapons, with different item classes? |
| 19:59.13 | th15 | that way you don't need another array for winners |
| 19:59.25 | SweetZombieJesus | nope HeyRevolver |
| 19:59.30 | Dogmai | how do we show the debugger |
| 19:59.39 | Amigo1 | ok i see |
| 19:59.40 | th15 | Dogmai: its in your preferences |
| 19:59.49 | HeyRevolver | Do you know how to choose which weapon icon shows up? |
| 19:59.55 | Amigo1 | cheers |
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| 20:03.34 | Zanam | blast, tehwildcard isnt on. I need a last minute tester |
| 20:07.30 | SweetZombieJesus | gah |
| 20:07.34 | SweetZombieJesus | hardest part of making my map |
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| 20:07.45 | SweetZombieJesus | thinking of background info of my heroes |
| 20:08.45 | SycoPrime | I'm pretty sure I saw (unit) actors creating sounds. If that is possible, does anyone know the command, or an actor that I could look at to find it? |
| 20:09.19 | Zanam | only way i know of is to use a sound actor |
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| 20:09.37 | UltiDrgn | falcon punches Otixa |
| 20:09.49 | SycoPrime | Do I create the sound actor when the other actor is created, or can I instruct my actor to create the sound actor? |
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| 20:10.30 | Otixa | kicks UltiDrgn |
| 20:10.33 | Otixa | what? ;/ |
| 20:10.36 | Zanam | depends on what your trying to do, if you want a sound to play when the unit is made, then the sound actor would have a unitbirth.SomeGuy - create() |
| 20:10.38 | UltiDrgn | The hell man |
| 20:10.52 | Otixa | I'm literally using my last strength to tie up some loose ends and go to sleep |
| 20:10.57 | UltiDrgn | You made a request forum and suddenly my pm box explodes with THE SAME REQUESTS I've ignored before |
| 20:11.12 | Otixa | shrugs |
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| 20:11.22 | Otixa | Also, I didn't make a request forum :P |
| 20:11.24 | UltiDrgn | Thanks for giving the plebians a reason to bother me more ._. |
| 20:12.47 | UltiDrgn | Anyways... rage aside, I need to borrow a photoshop artist for an hour or so |
| 20:12.56 | Zanam | anyone available for a quick test, finished my map and forgot to add in a 'player quits' trigger |
| 20:13.03 | Otixa | Not it |
| 20:13.15 | Otixa | Got just over 4 hours left to sleep |
| 20:13.22 | Otixa | And then I gotta get on a plane |
| 20:13.27 | Otixa | And then get on another plane |
| 20:13.28 | UltiDrgn | Sleep on the plane |
| 20:13.30 | Otixa | And then on a bus |
| 20:13.30 | Zanam | sleep on the plane1 |
| 20:13.35 | Zanam | sleep on the bus |
| 20:13.35 | Otixa | And then on a train |
| 20:13.39 | Otixa | And then on a cab |
| 20:13.40 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 20:14.00 | UltiDrgn | It really would only take you like 15 min anyways |
| 20:14.19 | Otixa | Just the flights are 4 hours ;/ |
| 20:14.26 | jorgenpt | Any way to make multiple units have the same command card without having to update them all each time you change one? |
| 20:15.13 | Zanam | negative |
| 20:15.32 | jorgenpt | Darn |
| 20:17.15 | SycoPrime | Jorgen: You might be able to copy / paste the command card field in the DE. |
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| 20:17.27 | SycoPrime | Some stuff you can, some stuff you can't. |
| 20:17.28 | jorgenpt | SycoPrime: Yeah, that's what I've resorted to, but it's like 6 fields :-p |
| 20:17.31 | soundsnc | anyone know how to turn off a unit's shadow? |
| 20:17.33 | Otixa | Tinman, you suck |
| 20:17.35 | Otixa | >:| |
| 20:17.39 | soundsnc | i tried turning off the "cast shadows" flag on the actor |
| 20:17.45 | HeyRevolver | jorgen I always copy paste |
| 20:17.48 | jorgenpt | Hmm. I set requirements on a command card button, and they're not satisfied, but they're still usable & showed. What's the right way to do this? |
| 20:18.00 | HeyRevolver | Requirements |
| 20:18.10 | HeyRevolver | set the requirement on th ebutton in the ability |
| 20:18.10 | SycoPrime | ? I mean copy the "Ability - Command card" in the unit... |
| 20:18.11 | jorgenpt | I basically want to not show the ability until it's been researched. |
| 20:18.16 | jorgenpt | HeyRevolver: That's what I said. |
| 20:18.32 | SycoPrime | jorgenpt: In the ability, not the command card. |
| 20:18.40 | HeyRevolver | did you apply the requirement on the button or in the ability? |
| 20:18.45 | jorgenpt | SycoPrime: Oh maybe if I enable "Combine Structure Values" |
| 20:18.54 | jorgenpt | I meant did, not said. |
| 20:19.08 | jorgenpt | Oh, there's another place to put these things? Jeesh. :-p |
| 20:19.22 | HeyRevolver | jorgen: That's what I said. |
| 20:19.37 | jorgenpt | Yeah, I misread you, sorry. :) |
| 20:19.45 | HeyRevolver | =P |
| 20:19.45 | jorgenpt | It annoys me that so much information is duplicated and it's not clear where what information is used. |
| 20:19.45 | ReckeD | how long does it usually take a youtube video to get processed? |
| 20:20.00 | jorgenpt | Like buttons for abilities and such. |
| 20:20.07 | HeyRevolver | yeah |
| 20:20.27 | HeyRevolver | there are like 30 different places that look like they should fix things |
| 20:20.30 | HeyRevolver | and only 1 that actually does |
| 20:21.10 | jorgenpt | Mhm |
| 20:21.24 | jorgenpt | Data editor and stability are, IMO, the two places that need most work. |
| 20:21.32 | jorgenpt | Making things clear, documented, understandable. |
| 20:21.35 | HeyRevolver | I agree |
| 20:22.07 | jorgenpt | And the bugs where it corrupts my map randomly when I load it and don't have Terrain view up (or something? maybe it's if I have Trigger view up?) |
| 20:22.22 | HeyRevolver | corrupts it or crashes it? |
| 20:22.26 | jorgenpt | Corrupts it |
| 20:22.31 | HeyRevolver | damn, never had a map corrupted |
| 20:22.32 | jorgenpt | So that if I save, random destructive changes are made. |
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| 20:22.54 | HeyRevolver | I havenoticed that with data it doesnt always save all my changes for some reason |
| 20:23.08 | jorgenpt | Like one thing it does frequently is remove 'include "TriggerLibs/LibertyLib"' and adds two 'include "TriggerLibs/NativeLib"'. |
| 20:23.12 | HeyRevolver | but testing the document after savingm, then saving again, has seemed to fix that problem for me |
| 20:23.34 | jorgenpt | Which means that 1) trigger editor doesn't show a lot of actions (it also removes all libLbty_* actions from my code), and 2) shows NativeLib categories thrice. |
| 20:23.45 | jorgenpt | It removes stuff like announcer numbers |
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| 20:23.51 | HeyRevolver | strange |
| 20:24.04 | jorgenpt | Yeah, it's happened many times to me. Really frustrating. |
| 20:24.09 | jorgenpt | Makes me happy I use git and SC2Components format. |
| 20:24.16 | jorgenpt | So I can diff what it's fucked up and revert it. :-p |
| 20:24.53 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 20:25.35 | jorgenpt | s/it's/it has/ |
| 20:25.50 | jorgenpt | I wonder if the Mac editor is worse than the Windows one. |
| 20:26.02 | HeyRevolver | probably more stable |
| 20:26.02 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 20:26.04 | HeyRevolver | its on mac |
| 20:26.17 | Zanam | AsaPhelps, think i've got it fixed, uploading now |
| 20:26.18 | HeyRevolver | i could get in a lot of trouble saying that around here i reckon |
| 20:26.24 | jorgenpt | hehe |
| 20:26.26 | HeyRevolver | hehe |
| 20:27.05 | HeyRevolver | so for your ability buttons to show up: did you see in the ability where we were talking about adding the requirement? |
| 20:27.08 | HeyRevolver | in the Commands+ |
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| 20:27.50 | jorgenpt | Yep, I figured it out. |
| 20:27.52 | jorgenpt | Thanks guys :-) |
| 20:27.53 | HeyRevolver | nice |
| 20:28.02 | HeyRevolver | np |
| 20:28.05 | jorgenpt | Now I just gotta make my missile explode when it impacts something. Not sure why it doesn't |
| 20:28.16 | HeyRevolver | projectile units |
| 20:28.23 | HeyRevolver | do you have an attack actor? |
| 20:28.46 | jorgenpt | The projectile unit has a Behavior - Behaviors that detects nearby enemies and asplodes if that's the case. |
| 20:28.57 | jorgenpt | No, just a normal actor. |
| 20:29.10 | HeyRevolver | Ohh ok, it isn't a projectile from a unit |
| 20:29.20 | HeyRevolver | I'm not sure how to go about accomplishing what you want tbh |
| 20:29.21 | HeyRevolver | lemme look |
| 20:29.28 | jorgenpt | It is a projectile from a unit, yes. |
| 20:29.37 | HeyRevolver | oh gotcha |
| 20:29.40 | HeyRevolver | with a search area on it? |
| 20:29.41 | jorgenpt | But it's not targeted at an enemy, it's targeted at a spot. |
| 20:29.43 | jorgenpt | Yeah |
| 20:29.45 | HeyRevolver | ok |
| 20:29.54 | jorgenpt | And it just flies in that direction until it hits a unit |
| 20:30.08 | HeyRevolver | if it is from a unit, I think you still need the attack actor to tell it how to react (model and sound) on impact |
| 20:30.36 | HeyRevolver | That is how I have gotten them to work, anyway |
| 20:30.45 | jorgenpt | So I have a Buff called Target Check that has a death response (chance 1) which is called Explode, and it has a periodic effect every 0.01 seconds called Collide. |
| 20:31.13 | HeyRevolver | cool |
| 20:31.16 | jorgenpt | Collide is a Set with Effect: Suicide (Kill Self - Generic) and a validator called Collision. |
| 20:31.38 | jorgenpt | The validator checks for greater than or equal to 1 unit in radius 1 with 360 arc. |
| 20:31.46 | jorgenpt | But it doesn't explode in any fashion. :-p |
| 20:31.55 | jorgenpt | (It Excludes: Player, Ally, Missile, Dead) |
| 20:32.11 | HeyRevolver | Does the effect itself work? |
| 20:32.16 | HeyRevolver | just no animation? |
| 20:32.16 | jorgenpt | The Explode? |
| 20:32.21 | HeyRevolver | yeah |
| 20:32.23 | HeyRevolver | does it do damage? |
| 20:32.31 | jorgenpt | Nothing happens, the missile continues flying, no damage is dealt |
| 20:32.36 | HeyRevolver | hmm |
| 20:32.56 | HeyRevolver | I have only dealt with direct impact middles |
| 20:32.58 | HeyRevolver | missles* |
| 20:33.14 | jorgenpt | Direct impact as in targeted? |
| 20:33.21 | HeyRevolver | Yeah, as in locked on firing |
| 20:33.39 | jorgenpt | Hmm, seems the Suicide Effect was broken - it was referring to something that has been renamed since beta. |
| 20:33.46 | jorgenpt | Let's see if it changes anything. |
| 20:33.57 | jorgenpt | It's such a pain to debug DE things. :-p |
| 20:34.10 | jorgenpt | No way to know which of a thousand little items are broken. |
| 20:34.36 | jorgenpt | Workingness! :D |
| 20:34.39 | HeyRevolver | GRATS! |
| 20:34.40 | jorgenpt | But no explosion |
| 20:34.44 | jorgenpt | (Just disappears) |
| 20:34.46 | HeyRevolver | that sounds like a really cool effect btw |
| 20:34.54 | HeyRevolver | Ok yeah now you need an attack actor |
| 20:35.04 | HeyRevolver | to tell it to play an explode animation |
| 20:35.09 | HeyRevolver | errr model/sound |
| 20:35.28 | HeyRevolver | Does your missle have a launch effect and a damage effect? |
| 20:35.50 | jorgenpt | Hm? |
| 20:36.22 | HeyRevolver | Effects tab, do you have a damage effect that determines the amount of damage your weapon deals? |
| 20:36.22 | jorgenpt | I have aOh, Effect - Launch Effect & Effect - Impact Effect under the Launch Missile-type effect? |
| 20:36.34 | HeyRevolver | yes, you have the launch good |
| 20:36.36 | HeyRevolver | and the damage |
| 20:36.37 | HeyRevolver | ? |
| 20:36.54 | jorgenpt | Yes, a Damage effect |
| 20:37.03 | DiNo29 | hmm, I have a Instant - Target ability with a launch missile effect, which target a point, and I want it to not be usable on creep. I put a "not on creep" validator on the launch missile effect but instead of the ability not casting, it does cast but just doesn't do anything when targeting creep, any way around that ? |
| 20:37.04 | jorgenpt | Effect - Death: Blast |
| 20:37.10 | HeyRevolver | Ok sweet, make a new actor, type Action, and GenericAttack |
| 20:37.45 | DiNo29 | wait, it's not an instant - target ability, it's a target item, and the item get used |
| 20:38.18 | jorgenpt | HeyRevolver: Done |
| 20:38.30 | HeyRevolver | Ok, now at the top set your launch effect and your damage effect |
| 20:38.47 | jorgenpt | Is the damage effect the attack or the impact? |
| 20:38.53 | HeyRevolver | the Damage |
| 20:38.57 | HeyRevolver | oh my bad |
| 20:38.58 | HeyRevolver | impact |
| 20:39.05 | HeyRevolver | Impact = damage |
| 20:39.08 | jorgenpt | Ok |
| 20:39.08 | HeyRevolver | Attack = launch |
| 20:39.21 | jorgenpt | There's a launch one too |
| 20:39.27 | HeyRevolver | oh yeah my bad |
| 20:39.31 | HeyRevolver | Attack is for beams |
| 20:39.34 | jorgenpt | Aha |
| 20:39.47 | Demonette | any one here already tried to work with mods? |
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| 20:42.08 | bobthenoob | guys im having problems when a player goes over a region a dialog pop ups for every player.. when i just want the triggering player.. whats a good condition statement? |
| 20:43.39 | Demonette | show dialog for triggering player? |
| 20:44.24 | Demonette | mmmhh thing you have to convert the triggering player to a player group first |
| 20:44.29 | Demonette | but all in all that should it been |
| 20:45.27 | SweetZombieJesus | trick question |
| 20:45.30 | SweetZombieJesus | without looking it up |
| 20:45.33 | SweetZombieJesus | do hydralisks have legs? |
| 20:45.37 | HeyRevolver | no |
| 20:45.39 | Demonette | no |
| 20:45.47 | HeyRevolver | they sliver |
| 20:45.49 | HeyRevolver | slither |
| 20:45.53 | Demonette | they only have spikes at there sides |
| 20:46.02 | Demonette | for get some more stability |
| 20:46.19 | Demonette | and they move a little like snakes |
| 20:46.21 | SweetZombieJesus | shockingly detailed answer :P |
| 20:46.28 | Demonette | =P |
| 20:46.52 | SweetZombieJesus | coming up with hero backgrounds is haaaard |
| 20:48.19 | Demonette | the imports in mods aren`t loaded for new maps that depends on them OR? that makes no sense to me... but all the imported stuff is missing in my map... =( |
| 20:49.02 | IskatuMesk | a REAL mod wouldn't force maps to be dependent on it to function |
| 20:49.16 | IskatuMesk | but Blizzard doesn't know that. It's an industry secret for everyone but them. |
| 20:49.22 | Demonette | ? |
| 20:49.28 | IskatuMesk | *dies* |
| 20:49.28 | Demonette | XD |
| 20:49.55 | Demonette | damn i just want my scourges and lurkers in my mape without loading the whole damn campaign stuff |
| 20:50.12 | Demonette | all the time over and over again... |
| 20:51.18 | Demonette | so know everyone knows my favorit race is zerg oO |
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| 20:51.39 | Hati | whats so bad about it? |
| 20:52.08 | Demonette | whines. |
| 20:52.10 | Demonette | about what? |
| 20:52.22 | Hati | " so know everyone knows my favorit race is zerg oO" |
| 20:52.24 | Demonette | about loading the whole campagin? |
| 20:52.42 | Demonette | ah well zerg players are whiners =P |
| 20:52.58 | Demonette | cause zerg a so fragil and die so easily |
| 20:53.12 | DiNo29 | zergs don't die |
| 20:53.18 | DiNo29 | they just split into mroe zergs when you kill them D: |
| 20:53.26 | Hati | they just morph into air |
| 20:53.29 | Demonette | thats the same... |
| 20:53.52 | Demonette | but it doesn?t matter how you call it |
| 20:53.55 | Demonette | what ever it is... |
| 20:54.30 | Blacksoldier | MOOOOH |
| 20:54.34 | Demonette | and zerg aren`t tyranids at all... |
| 20:54.53 | Demonette | tyranids split into more tyranids when they get killed =P |
| 20:55.09 | Demonette | zerg a just a lame copy of nids |
| 20:55.33 | Demonette | and the first editon nids where just a lame copy of alien |
| 20:56.06 | Demonette | and alien is just a lame copy of .... mmhhh.. unsure giger is sick XD |
| 20:57.53 | Clord | Zerg has developed it's own direction... more pg-13 ^^ |
| 20:57.56 | Clord | or whatever |
| 20:58.00 | Clord | tyranids look way more serious |
| 20:58.02 | Clord | ;) |
| 20:58.42 | Demonette | yey ^^ |
| 20:59.31 | Demonette | tyranids are quite more cute =D |
| 20:59.55 | Demonette | well tyranids also developed into there own direcetion |
| 21:01.37 | IskatuMesk | zerg are more like PG now |
| 21:01.40 | Vortexx_ | i'm trying to make a building give an ability to a unit. i want that to depend on a unit behaviour. how do i make the requirement check the unit and not the building? |
| 21:01.43 | IskatuMesk | all soft and child-proofed |
| 21:01.45 | Jibekn | most of the original tyranids arnt ever around enymore |
| 21:05.11 | Clord | at least blizzard didn't remove zergs disgusting mutating method |
| 21:05.11 | Clord | lol |
| 21:05.50 | Demonette | which disgusting mutating? |
| 21:08.21 | Clord | I don't really keep top 10 list of about anything almost so |
| 21:08.22 | Clord | lol |
| 21:08.27 | Clord | you can make one if you want ;) |
| 21:09.28 | Demonette | morph itself. |
| 21:10.23 | Clord | egg morping not look that weird |
| 21:10.33 | Clord | but mutating is just ewww ^^ but nowadays I don't much think about it |
| 21:10.42 | Clord | it looked way cooler in first SC |
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| 21:17.17 | ReckeD | Who thinks 40mb is too big for a beta preview |
| 21:17.20 | Fromethius | what's a good way to make a taunt ability? |
| 21:17.27 | ReckeD | i suck at doing videos |
| 21:17.40 | SweetZombieJesus | anyone (EU) would like to help me test my map quickly? release test, 5 mins or so |
| 21:17.45 | ReckeD | you mean taunt as in a spell that calls someone a name or a taunt as in wow? |
| 21:18.03 | Fromethius | wow taunt |
| 21:18.10 | ReckeD | no idea =P |
| 21:18.32 | ReckeD | maybe create an aura that apllies an issue order effect |
| 21:18.44 | Fromethius | then they could just cancel it |
| 21:18.50 | Fromethius | probably have to use apply force.. not sure |
| 21:19.10 | ReckeD | if you want their units to become uncommandable probably easiest to use triggers |
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| 21:19.32 | Vulfe | Hey bros |
| 21:19.34 | Vulfe | ^^ |
| 21:19.55 | Fromethius | sup brah |
| 21:21.11 | Demonette | Clord: there still is the old morphing animation in the editor =P |
| 21:21.57 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 21:22.04 | Vulfe | Okay, I have a question about actors |
| 21:22.20 | Vulfe | does anyone know how to make units with turrets do animations correctly? |
| 21:22.31 | Vulfe | and/or make the turrets actually turn to face the target of an ability |
| 21:23.25 | Vulfe | also: I just learned that I lost my old map on my laptop's hard drive |
| 21:23.26 | Vulfe | : ( |
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| 21:27.14 | Vulfe | Yo progammer |
| 21:27.33 | Vulfe | do you know anything about turrets? |
| 21:28.27 | Rayden | i should map |
| 21:28.32 | Rayden | there's a turret tutorial |
| 21:28.41 | SweetZombieJesus | anyone (EU) would like to help me test my map quickly? release test, 5 mins or so |
| 21:29.07 | Rayden | i would |
| 21:29.09 | Rayden | but i'm not EU |
| 21:29.22 | Vulfe | O_O |
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| 21:29.25 | Vulfe | I'm not EU either |
| 21:29.28 | Vulfe | party time |
| 21:29.30 | progammer | not much/ i'm not good in data |
| 21:29.32 | Ousnius | heyaaa |
| 21:29.37 | Vulfe | okay |
| 21:29.48 | progammer | you can just ask |
| 21:29.55 | SweetZombieJesus | i need someone :< |
| 21:30.25 | Ousnius | somebody wanna play my TD with me? |
| 21:30.27 | Ousnius | on EU b.net |
| 21:30.28 | Vulfe | Does anyone know how to make units with turrets (like the immortal) face directions and do animations correctly? |
| 21:30.53 | progammer | u need to have turret as part of the model |
| 21:30.55 | mattavich-377 | I cant believe im free of my map now |
| 21:31.00 | mattavich-377 | i dont feel rpessured to work on things |
| 21:31.00 | progammer | then set the turret accordingly |
| 21:31.09 | mattavich-377 | i can relax, enjoy mapping again |
| 21:31.14 | SweetZombieJesus | matty help me do one last testrun |
| 21:31.21 | SweetZombieJesus | so i too can be free |
| 21:31.22 | mattavich-377 | ok |
| 21:31.30 | mattavich-377 | im in-game |
| 21:32.17 | Vulfe | well, progammer, this is more about animating an existing turret: When my immortal casts an ability, he doesn't face the direction that he casts it, and he doesn't do the animation that I tell him to in actor events |
| 21:33.56 | progammer | there's smt to do with the abilities that tell unit to face/turn turret or not |
| 21:34.15 | progammer | anyway idk |
| 21:34.39 | Vulfe | thanks for your help |
| 21:34.39 | Vulfe | ^^ |
| 21:35.52 | Demonette | good night folkd |
| 21:35.55 | Demonette | -d+s |
| 21:36.00 | Technomancer | night? |
| 21:36.04 | Technomancer | its 5:35 pm lol |
| 21:36.10 | Zanam | And it's off. Contest submission map sent. Good luck to all my competition... i'm hitting the casino |
| 21:36.13 | Technomancer | (jk jk) |
| 21:36.22 | Demonette | lol ats 11:35 pm =P |
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| 21:36.34 | Demonette | so good night =P |
| 21:36.39 | Technomancer | good afternoon :P |
| 21:36.43 | Triceron | night |
| 21:36.43 | Demonette | and it`s always night somewhere |
| 21:36.45 | Triceron | and afternoon |
| 21:36.48 | Technomancer | I know |
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| 21:36.51 | Technomancer | im just dickin with ya |
| 21:36.52 | Demonette | yes =D |
| 21:36.53 | Technomancer | (no homo) |
| 21:36.54 | Triceron | iskatumesk you there? |
| 21:37.00 | Demonette | XD |
| 21:37.02 | Demonette | nighty night |
| 21:37.05 | Technomancer | nyt |
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| 21:41.58 | bobthenoob | guys how do i make a dialog show for triggering player.. i thought this would work.. Dialog - Show (Last created dialog) for (Player group((Triggering player))) |
| 21:43.45 | bobthenoob | does the sound right? |
| 21:44.20 | Jibekn | yes, IF you just created the dialog in that trigger |
| 21:44.23 | mattavich-377 | backkkk |
| 21:44.26 | mattavich-377 | i beat szj again |
| 21:44.31 | Jibekn | if you created it in a different trigger, use a gv |
| 21:44.34 | SweetZombieJesus | pretty sure i won :P |
| 21:45.24 | Vortexx_ | how do i make it so you can't see an ability on the command card until it's been researched? |
| 21:46.10 | Triceron | anyone else here use 3ds max and the .m3 tools? |
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| 21:48.36 | intact | Any 1 here played tree-tag in WC3? |
| 21:48.52 | SweetZombieJesus | loved it |
| 21:49.12 | intact | You know how i could make trees attacklable in starcraft? :P |
| 21:49.22 | SweetZombieJesus | dunno |
| 21:49.31 | SweetZombieJesus | you could make a unit wth tree model |
| 21:49.32 | SweetZombieJesus | but... |
| 21:49.35 | SweetZombieJesus | that cant be the right way |
| 21:50.46 | intact | I started with the galaxy editor today so i dont really know how i should make trees attackable or make you swap units when he kills you etc |
| 21:51.05 | SweetZombieJesus | the last part isnt so hard |
| 21:51.13 | SweetZombieJesus | dunno about trees though |
| 21:51.39 | Technomancer | is there a way to import custom units from one map into another? by unit I mean both the data and the model |
| 21:51.50 | intact | so how do i do the swap thingie? |
| 21:52.17 | SweetZombieJesus | just create a new unit for the owner of the dying unit |
| 21:52.25 | SweetZombieJesus | at position of dying unit |
| 21:53.07 | intact | triggers? |
| 21:53.49 | Triceron | change doodad into unit? |
| 21:54.14 | SweetZombieJesus | yes triggers |
| 21:55.36 | intact | ah geez im abd at this |
| 21:55.40 | intact | bad* |
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| 21:56.41 | Saeris | hey, can anyone tell me if Modified Damage Dealt (Scaled) increases damage by a %? |
| 21:56.51 | Saeris | cuz i don't want to do a % of the target's hp in dmg |
| 21:57.19 | SweetZombieJesus | intact: i suggest tutorials |
| 21:57.22 | SweetZombieJesus | there are really great ones |
| 21:57.24 | SweetZombieJesus | just start simple |
| 21:57.36 | intact | googled for it but didnt find anything¨ |
| 21:57.53 | SweetZombieJesus | you google poorly my friend |
| 21:57.54 | SweetZombieJesus | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/tutorials/ |
| 21:58.49 | intact | indeed I fail |
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| 22:04.03 | RedWraith | and so it begins |
| 22:04.06 | RedWraith | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/627977392?page=1#1 |
| 22:04.39 | RedWraith | Topic |
| 22:04.39 | RedWraith | Wanting a skilled Editor user to... |
| 22:04.43 | RedWraith | :[ |
| 22:04.47 | SweetZombieJesus | must comply |
| 22:04.53 | SweetZombieJesus | will now create mechwarrior |
| 22:05.18 | SweetZombieJesus | aight now to upload my map!! :o |
| 22:05.20 | HeyRevolver | Red you havent seen those yet? |
| 22:05.21 | SweetZombieJesus | then |
| 22:05.22 | SweetZombieJesus | REST |
| 22:05.23 | HeyRevolver | There have been a lot |
| 22:05.25 | SweetZombieJesus | RELAXATION FINALLY |
| 22:06.02 | SweetZombieJesus | too bad i changed references to my name to SweetZombieJay in the map, just in case |
| 22:06.02 | SweetZombieJesus | :P |
| 22:06.08 | RedWraith | HeyRevolver, that's what I'm saying. |
| 22:06.14 | RedWraith | The mods forums in HoN |
| 22:06.16 | RedWraith | were full of those |
| 22:06.24 | RedWraith | half of them requested things that already exist |
| 22:06.25 | RedWraith | ffs |
| 22:06.30 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 22:06.49 | HeyRevolver | People dont really go for "idea guys" when it comes to map making lol |
| 22:06.59 | RedWraith | It's not that. |
| 22:07.07 | RedWraith | It's that these people aren't "idea guys" |
| 22:07.10 | RedWraith | I'M an idea guy. |
| 22:07.21 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 22:07.26 | HeyRevolver | do you make maps? |
| 22:07.31 | RedWraith | ... |
| 22:07.35 | HeyRevolver | ... |
| 22:07.43 | RedWraith | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u5HwLR9Brc |
| 22:07.49 | HeyRevolver | No |
| 22:07.54 | HeyRevolver | you can give me an answer like a big boy |
| 22:07.57 | RedWraith | Yes. Yes I do. |
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| 22:07.59 | HeyRevolver | thanks |
| 22:08.08 | RedWraith | That's the precursor to my contest entry. |
| 22:08.09 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 22:08.14 | RedWraith | I made it too. |
| 22:08.34 | RedWraith | I was "Ignorance" in HoN if you ever used hon mods. |
| 22:08.56 | HeyRevolver | I didnt even know HoN had a map editor |
| 22:09.02 | RedWraith | mods |
| 22:09.03 | RedWraith | not maps |
| 22:09.05 | RedWraith | UI mods |
| 22:09.08 | HeyRevolver | gotcha |
| 22:09.14 | SweetZombieJesus | really RedWraith ? :o |
| 22:09.17 | RedWraith | Yes. |
| 22:09.17 | SweetZombieJesus | i played hon shitloads |
| 22:09.21 | HeyRevolver | so, how are you going to submit your map if youve already had it on bnet? |
| 22:09.23 | SweetZombieJesus | pretty sure i remember you |
| 22:09.24 | RedWraith | Did you use right click deny? |
| 22:09.29 | SweetZombieJesus | nah |
| 22:09.30 | SweetZombieJesus | thats for pansies |
| 22:09.46 | SweetZombieJesus | did you make it? :P |
| 22:10.10 | RedWraith | HeyRevolver, giving a map to a closed audience for a limited play is hardly a release. |
| 22:10.17 | RedWraith | closed beta = closed audience |
| 22:10.19 | HeyRevolver | Um ok |
| 22:10.26 | RedWraith | I'm gonna go with the Blizzard wont care bit. |
| 22:10.31 | HeyRevolver | Good luck, heh |
| 22:10.36 | HeyRevolver | its in the rules |
| 22:10.41 | RedWraith | If they want the map, they'll use it. |
| 22:10.45 | HeyRevolver | tue |
| 22:10.46 | HeyRevolver | true |
| 22:10.50 | SweetZombieJesus | you still playing hon RedWraith ? |
| 22:10.54 | RedWraith | It also hasn't been out for the past four months. |
| 22:10.54 | RedWraith | No. |
| 22:11.01 | RedWraith | It was out for a week in beta. |
| 22:11.03 | RedWraith | Well, two months. |
| 22:11.04 | RedWraith | Sorry. |
| 22:11.08 | RedWraith | three* |
| 22:11.22 | RedWraith | It was out for a week at the end of may, in closed beta phase 1. |
| 22:11.23 | RedWraith | :| |
| 22:11.30 | SweetZombieJesus | im totally confused |
| 22:11.41 | RedWraith | Besides, the current mapi |
| 22:11.45 | RedWraith | isn't that much like the original |
| 22:11.52 | RedWraith | playstyle is similar, sentry is still there |
| 22:11.56 | RedWraith | otherwise completely different |
| 22:12.21 | RedWraith | I'll be releasing it after the contest ends tonight. |
| 22:12.27 | RedWraith | So you'll get to see it surpass Nexus Wars. >_> |
| 22:13.42 | SweetZombieJesus | i wonder how many qualitity maps will be released in the next days |
| 22:13.49 | HeyRevolver | a lot |
| 22:14.02 | HeyRevolver | 30 - 7,000,000 |
| 22:14.09 | HeyRevolver | somewhere in that range |
| 22:14.10 | RedWraith | Five players. Five minutes. If it gets to the second or third page, it'll skyrocket to #1 by Rodrigo's formula. |
| 22:14.18 | RedWraith | Quality maps? 5 |
| 22:14.22 | RedWraith | maaaaybe 10 |
| 22:14.44 | RedWraith | qualitity maps, however |
| 22:14.47 | RedWraith | are banned on bnet |
| 22:14.57 | RedWraith | I love me some quali-titties, though. |
| 22:15.20 | HeyRevolver | quality maps are banned on bnet? |
| 22:16.03 | RedWraith | Yes. |
| 22:16.05 | RedWraith | Wait, shit. |
| 22:16.13 | RedWraith | That means Sentry Scramble is going to get banned. |
| 22:16.14 | RedWraith | D: |
| 22:19.42 | currydevil | they want the quality maps for their premium content. |
| 22:19.43 | ReckeD | How do you enter player color into a text message |
| 22:19.49 | ReckeD | or do i need code for that? |
| 22:20.15 | currydevil | text message how? like a player's chat messages? |
| 22:20.37 | ReckeD | ui display text message |
| 22:20.42 | ReckeD | got a variable in there |
| 22:20.59 | ReckeD | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.59 | SweetZombieJesus | i think chat is just 1 color |
| 22:21.06 | SweetZombieJesus | because you enter a string and not a text |
| 22:21.29 | ReckeD | So its not possible to change the color on those variables texts? |
| 22:21.41 | intact | For a tree tag game, what trigger should i use so that the hunter swaps with the victim after killing it ? tried various Any unit dies triggers but nothing seems to work |
| 22:22.12 | ReckeD | swaps unit? or swaps position? |
| 22:22.33 | SweetZombieJesus | dooooooooooooooooooooooone |
| 22:22.40 | SweetZombieJesus | FREEDOM |
| 22:22.40 | intact | If i kill him he gets my unit and i get his |
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| 22:23.05 | SweetZombieJesus | now ima shoot stuff in mw2 |
| 22:24.11 | intact | Tried Unit changes ownership in actions, but it doesnt swap, atleast not what i can see |
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| 22:25.02 | tbye | I have a copy of a photon cannon unit. How do I remove the power field requirement for placing this unit? |
| 22:25.09 | Triceron | anyone else here use 3ds max and the m3 exporter? |
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| 22:25.45 | ReckeD | tbye, in behaviors |
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| 22:25.48 | ReckeD | remove the behaviors |
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| 22:26.17 | tbye | behaviors on the unit? |
| 22:26.20 | ReckeD | yep |
| 22:26.23 | ReckeD | power user que |
| 22:26.26 | ReckeD | or something like that |
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| 22:29.58 | tbye | I see queue count... set to 0... but not power user que |
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| 22:30.28 | tbye | I see queue count... set to 0... but not power user que |
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| 22:31.59 | Vortexx_ | is there any way to make an ability hidden until it's learned? |
| 22:32.47 | vail | i thought the learn ability automatically hid the unlearned abilities |
| 22:33.25 | Vortexx_ | sry, researched |
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| 22:34.15 | Vortexx_ | i'm trying to make a building give an ability to a unit |
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| 22:34.48 | vail | sorry |
| 22:35.18 | Vortexx_ | only way I can think of to do that is to give the unit the ability and make it require research |
| 22:35.35 | vail | yeah |
| 22:36.22 | Vortexx_ | that works but the ability is still in the command card, just greyed out |
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| 22:37.44 | Corbo | hai |
| 22:38.34 | intact | FOr example, how would i do if player A has a zealot, and Player B has Thor. When player B kills Player A, Player B will spawn at a random location as a zealot and player A will get the thor |
| 22:39.08 | jorgenpt | What decides how units acquire targets when they're idle and enemies are nearby? |
| 22:39.50 | jorgenpt | Vortexx_: You need to set the requirement on the Ability and not in the Command Card of the unit. :-) |
| 22:40.34 | jorgenpt | Vortexx_: Go to your Ability, then Ability - Command+, and set the Requirement for Execute. :-) |
| 22:40.48 | jorgenpt | Vortexx_: (To a Requirement you have created that has both a Use and a Show term) |
| 22:41.14 | Corbo | okay so |
| 22:41.19 | Corbo | I was going to do my stream |
| 22:41.24 | Corbo | but otixa isn't here |
| 22:41.26 | Corbo | wtf |
| 22:42.05 | Vortexx_ | hte show term /facepalm |
| 22:42.08 | ReckeD | any SEA got time for a quick play tes |
| 22:42.11 | ReckeD | test* |
| 22:42.17 | Vortexx_ | sry, idk how to whisper |
| 22:44.06 | currydevil | Hey guys.. i need some dialog help.. I'm trying to use a button click (dialog button) to show/hide another dialog, but it's not working. |
| 22:44.59 | Clord | some people are really crazy gamers... THE Card Game.. someone has without cheating made 500K experience |
| 22:44.59 | Clord | XD |
| 22:45.33 | mattavich-377 | HOW COME IN THAT GAME UNITS DIE IN LIEK 1 TO 2 HITS |
| 22:45.35 | mattavich-377 | oopd |
| 22:45.36 | Triceron | CORBO |
| 22:45.44 | currydevil | yes no maybe so? No one with dialog experience in here? |
| 22:45.50 | Triceron | I require help! |
| 22:45.51 | rrowland | Clord is your map on US? |
| 22:45.54 | Corbo | ohi |
| 22:46.01 | Corbo | omghalp |
| 22:46.02 | Vortexx_ | @jorgenpt it didn't show back up when I researched |
| 22:46.03 | mattavich-377 | i know nothing of dialogs sorry |
| 22:46.05 | Corbo | what is it? |
| 22:46.08 | Triceron | I need you to test something real quick |
| 22:46.12 | Corbo | uh k |
| 22:46.21 | Triceron | okay so I extracted Kerrigan's .m3 from Campaign MPQ |
| 22:46.25 | jorgenpt | Vortexx_: Maybe your Requirement is broken. It works fine here. :-) |
| 22:46.27 | Clord | rrowland... it is... but it is like only english speaking server where it does not do so well |
| 22:46.27 | Triceron | I tried loading into 3ds max |
| 22:46.28 | Clord | XD |
| 22:46.33 | Triceron | it didn't work for me, i get an error |
| 22:46.41 | rrowland | Are you sure it's localized correctly? |
| 22:46.41 | Triceron | I need someone else to confirm this |
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| 22:47.03 | Triceron | I can load other .m3's so I can't figure out if it's just Kerrigan's, or what |
| 22:47.25 | Corbo | k |
| 22:47.31 | Corbo | hold on |
| 22:47.33 | Corbo | uh |
| 22:47.39 | Corbo | which kerrigan? |
| 22:47.44 | Triceron | infested |
| 22:47.50 | Corbo | but |
| 22:47.55 | Triceron | zerg kerrigan |
| 22:47.56 | Corbo | cinematic one or ingame? |
| 22:47.59 | Triceron | oh in game |
| 22:48.07 | MotiveMe | Lollllll |
| 22:48.10 | MotiveMe | open source has failed me :( |
| 22:48.17 | rrowland | How would you load cinematic kerrigan? lol |
| 22:48.23 | rrowland | Cinematics are movies |
| 22:48.26 | MotiveMe | I made my roleplay engine open source, and let other people make tons of maps with it. |
| 22:48.28 | Corbo | hardcoreness |
| 22:48.42 | MotiveMe | and then the absolute worst map made popular |
| 22:48.47 | Triceron | well there's a in-game cinematic kerrigan |
| 22:49.06 | rrowland | There is? |
| 22:49.06 | Triceron | I think? |
| 22:49.27 | Triceron | well she appears in some video segments |
| 22:49.34 | Triceron | like when tychus is watching news |
| 22:49.47 | Triceron | and they briefly show kerrigan's mug |
| 22:50.22 | Clord | mug? |
| 22:50.28 | Clord | XD |
| 22:50.29 | rrowland | I hope not, I already submitted my map and if there's a cinematic kerrigan unghhh |
| 22:50.37 | Clord | ^^ |
| 22:50.41 | rrowland | Yeah it's a mug that says "World's Best Queen" |
| 22:50.43 | Corbo | also |
| 22:50.47 | Corbo | there's a kerrigan egg |
| 22:50.51 | Corbo | and kerrigan egg death! |
| 22:50.56 | Clord | yeah yeah |
| 22:51.03 | Clord | there is also alive overmind |
| 22:51.11 | Clord | if want to use it |
| 22:51.24 | Triceron | ah they don't |
| 22:51.30 | Triceron | they have one of infested hanson tho |
| 22:51.38 | Triceron | smexy |
| 22:51.45 | rrowland | I used the overmind |
| 22:51.46 | rrowland | 8) |
| 22:51.53 | Clord | alive overmind as in-game structure... it is like four main structures big |
| 22:51.54 | Clord | ^^ |
| 22:51.57 | Clord | it is insane |
| 22:52.13 | Triceron | I liked him better as a brain |
| 22:52.17 | rrowland | I'll tell you more about in a couple days when I'm not scared of disqualification :P |
| 22:52.44 | Clord | lol |
| 22:52.48 | Clord | remake of certain mission? |
| 22:52.49 | Clord | XD |
| 22:52.54 | Triceron | mmmm |
| 22:53.12 | rrowland | nah No remakes |
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| 22:53.24 | Triceron | He's doing a prequel |
| 22:53.27 | rrowland | It does somewhat graze the campaign plot |
| 22:53.36 | rrowland | But not spoilers or anything |
| 22:53.44 | Triceron | know what needs to be made into a campaign? |
| 22:53.48 | Triceron | Dark Templar Trilogy |
| 22:54.09 | Corbo | yea |
| 22:54.12 | Clord | WCIII missions was able to be turned as co-op compatible quite easily |
| 22:54.16 | Corbo | unable to load type string error |
| 22:54.37 | Clord | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.37 | Clord | XD |
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| 22:54.37 | Triceron | oh yeah |
| 22:54.45 | Triceron | I remember doing that for one of the Enslavers missions |
| 22:54.47 | crazyfingers | holy sh*t the deadline for the contest is 8 hours? |
| 22:54.49 | Triceron | making it co-op |
| 22:54.55 | Triceron | so one person plays Terran, the other Protoss |
| 22:55.00 | Corbo | Triceron |
| 22:55.03 | Corbo | did you listen to me? |
| 22:55.06 | Triceron | but the mission was too easy. Mind control Torrasque, GG |
| 22:55.11 | Triceron | oh |
| 22:55.15 | Triceron | thanks Corbo |
| 22:55.24 | rrowland | Hmm coop campaign missions huh |
| 22:55.28 | rrowland | That sounds kinda fun |
| 22:55.38 | rrowland | Except then I have some crappy partner who always ruins my awesome strategies |
| 22:55.39 | Fromethius | hey it's that time again! |
| 22:55.39 | Clord | I turned one campaign mission in WCIII to team based mission and it was insanely hard if didn't knew the "trick" |
| 22:55.44 | Triceron | hmm, guess I can't use Kerrigan then |
| 22:55.46 | Fromethius | time to help fromethius with naming his abilities! who wants to play |
| 22:56.01 | Corbo | me |
| 22:56.02 | Fromethius | i need a name for a mutalisk ability for cloaking someone, a speed buff aura, and a targeted speed debuff |
| 22:56.04 | Fromethius | gogogo |
| 22:56.23 | Clord | http://war3.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=9110 |
| 22:56.24 | Corbo | shifting parasite |
| 22:56.32 | Clord | people are probably too stupid to realize what "MP" meant |
| 22:56.33 | Triceron | that's why I like RPGS so much |
| 22:56.33 | Clord | XD |
| 22:56.38 | Triceron | it's basically co-op campaigns |
| 22:56.38 | Corbo | hmm |
| 22:56.43 | rrowland | Why would a mutalisk do all that |
| 22:56.43 | rrowland | lol |
| 22:56.55 | Fromethius | he's a hero mutalisk! |
| 22:56.56 | Corbo | speed buf = alcohol |
| 22:57.02 | Corbo | targeted speed = lsd |
| 22:57.08 | Fromethius | =O |
| 22:57.14 | rrowland | "I got shit on by a mutalisk" |
| 22:57.17 | Clord | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.25 | Fromethius | you guys suck =p |
| 22:57.52 | rrowland | Is that one ability? |
| 22:57.53 | rrowland | Or 3? |
| 22:58.27 | Fromethius | 3 |
| 22:58.49 | rrowland | Are you entering this map into the contest? |
| 22:58.59 | Fromethius | no |
| 22:59.03 | Fromethius | island defense? i can't |
| 22:59.07 | Fromethius | it's already been released |
| 22:59.17 | Komodo1138 | hey guys |
| 22:59.17 | rrowland | okay then I can aid you |
| 22:59.21 | rrowland | :P |
| 22:59.26 | Fromethius | rofl |
| 22:59.59 | Triceron | deadline's tonight eh? |
| 23:00.05 | rrowland | I'd make the latter 2 skills have something to do with wings |
| 23:00.06 | Triceron | someone make me a nexus wars map for me to enter!! |
| 23:00.53 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 23:01.01 | rrowland | Seriously, if any nexus-wars-esque map wins |
| 23:01.06 | rrowland | I will RAAAAAAAAGE |
| 23:01.09 | Triceron | Fromethius - Camouflage, Terminal Velocity, Perception |
| 23:01.30 | rrowland | You have good perception, therefore you run slow |
| 23:01.31 | rrowland | lolwut |
| 23:01.42 | Triceron | oh it's a debuff |
| 23:01.52 | Triceron | i thought it said targeting speed buff |
| 23:02.00 | rrowland | ah |
| 23:02.15 | Triceron | debuff, um... Perception |
| 23:02.37 | rrowland | I don't know why a muta would make someone cloaked so no suggestion on that one |
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| 23:03.08 | Triceron | it stole ate the crystal from a mothership |
| 23:03.09 | crazyfingers | Anyone know what time submissions are due? |
| 23:03.27 | Triceron | tonight |
| 23:03.38 | crazyfingers | crapppp |
| 23:03.45 | crazyfingers | figured it would be the end of tommorow |
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| 23:04.00 | jorgenpt | What does "Transient" on an Ability do? |
| 23:04.15 | jorgenpt | My ability makes the caster stop his movement, how can I prevent that? |
| 23:05.31 | DiNo29 | Is there still a locale problem between EU/US with custom maps ? |
| 23:05.45 | rrowland | Make it so "move" is allowed |
| 23:05.50 | rrowland | It's on the ability somewhere |
| 23:06.01 | jorgenpt | That doesn't do anything, rrowland |
| 23:06.08 | jorgenpt | Hm, it seems it might be transient, let me try that. |
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| 23:07.05 | rrowland | I forget what transient means but I'm pretty sure there's an "allowed actions" field or something |
| 23:07.12 | rrowland | And all you have to do is toggle movement |
| 23:07.24 | jorgenpt | Yeah, Transient it is. :-) |
| 23:08.15 | jorgenpt | rrowland: There's something called "Allow Movement", but it doesn't let the unit cast it without interrupting movement. |
| 23:08.20 | jorgenpt | rrowland: Transient does, though. |
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| 23:08.58 | rrowland | Hmm |
| 23:09.05 | rrowland | Well nice |
| 23:10.53 | DiNo29 | So, is the locale problem still in the editor ? (getting Param/value/23EETGER545 stuff when opening a foreign map) |
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| 23:19.09 | redmarine | How do I use YouTube tags on the forums? |
| 23:19.13 | redmarine | Or are they even available? |
| 23:29.20 | Triceron | they are |
| 23:29.39 | Triceron | there's a 'extra tags' thing you can click to see |
| 23:29.49 | redmarine | Triceron, alright thanks |
| 23:29.50 | Triceron | when posting |
| 23:30.29 | redmarine | Triceron, where is this button? |
| 23:30.53 | redmarine | oh nvm found it |
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| 23:38.32 | redmarine | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3NOFFEcL1o |
| 23:39.07 | RedWraith | woah, it's redmarine |
| 23:39.10 | RedWraith | He's a cool guy. |
| 23:39.14 | redmarine | lol.. |
| 23:40.23 | RedWraith | redmarine, that video... |
| 23:40.28 | RedWraith | I'm not impressed in the slightest. :| |
| 23:40.42 | redmarine | RedWraith, it ain't impressive |
| 23:40.54 | redmarine | RedWraith, it's only a proof of concept |
| 23:41.10 | RedWraith | I see. |
| 23:41.17 | Lilianna | redmarine, thats some really explodey dirt. xD |
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| 23:41.23 | RedWraith | Are the people on the Battle.net forum pathetic wannbes? |
| 23:41.28 | RedWraith | Just wandering.;) |
| 23:41.44 | redmarine | RedWraith, hehe I guess. Wanted to prove them wrong |
| 23:42.03 | RedWraith | I like it, though. |
| 23:42.07 | RedWraith | Show me the thread |
| 23:42.14 | RedWraith | I wanna be like 'you dumb nigga' |
| 23:42.16 | DarkRevenant | hmm |
| 23:42.20 | DarkRevenant | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/player-zone/map-review/11149-crc-level-up-bound/ |
| 23:42.31 | DarkRevenant | i'll have the other one later today or tomorrow |
| 23:43.07 | redmarine | RedWraith, sc2mapster.net |
| 23:43.14 | RedWraith | ?? |
| 23:43.23 | RedWraith | ze thread |
| 23:43.23 | redmarine | RedWraith, http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/11150-dungeon-keeper-proof-of-concept/#p3 |
| 23:43.27 | RedWraith | and I thought you said Battel.net |
| 23:43.28 | RedWraith | :( |
| 23:43.32 | redmarine | oh right |
| 23:43.35 | redmarine | I'll get on it |
| 23:43.37 | Lilianna | Mattel.net |
| 23:43.39 | redmarine | it's old |
| 23:43.50 | Lilianna | The future of toys! In Web 2.0 standards! |
| 23:44.01 | DarkRevenant | hmm |
| 23:44.48 | DarkRevenant | i wrote |
| 23:44.49 | DarkRevenant | too much |
| 23:45.04 | Corbo | hey |
| 23:45.09 | Corbo | I like that map :P |
| 23:45.17 | SweetZombieJesus | how on earth is this turret defence map 2nd on EU |
| 23:45.18 | Corbo | I also beat it on my first try |
| 23:45.21 | SweetZombieJesus | its bad and bugged |
| 23:45.22 | Corbo | so it's not hard at all |
| 23:45.23 | SweetZombieJesus | and no fun at all |
| 23:45.26 | SweetZombieJesus | it has 1 tower wtf |
| 23:45.49 | Corbo | but yeah, the explosions disappear sometimes |
| 23:45.54 | DarkRevenant | disappear? |
| 23:45.55 | DarkRevenant | wat |
| 23:45.58 | Corbo | yeah |
| 23:45.59 | DarkRevenant | the opposite is the problem |
| 23:46.03 | Corbo | well |
| 23:46.05 | Corbo | you see |
| 23:46.10 | Corbo | I'm on LOW settings |
| 23:46.11 | Corbo | :P |
| 23:46.13 | DarkRevenant | also if i was playing singleplayer, it wouldn't be much of a problem for me to win |
| 23:46.19 | Corbo | uh no |
| 23:46.22 | DarkRevenant | but in multiplayer |
| 23:46.23 | Corbo | we beat it in a full game |
| 23:46.28 | Corbo | well actually |
| 23:46.29 | Corbo | 5 people |
| 23:46.31 | Corbo | not full |
| 23:46.38 | DarkRevenant | i was |
| 23:46.44 | DarkRevenant | pretty much the only adequate player |
| 23:46.44 | Corbo | I'm not trying to fight I'm just saying I liked it :P |
| 23:46.46 | DarkRevenant | in the games i played] |
| 23:47.03 | DarkRevenant | when the delay is 0.5s, level 24 is just about |
| 23:47.05 | DarkRevenant | impossible |
| 23:47.12 | DarkRevenant | since you have to run back and forth FASTER than 0.5s |
| 23:47.16 | DarkRevenant | so you cant do it |
| 23:47.22 | Corbo | lol |
| 23:47.25 | Corbo | wanna see replay? |
| 23:47.28 | DarkRevenant | i eventually managed to get the waypoints right, but timing that is much much harder |
| 23:47.39 | Blacksoldier | is there any way to hide ui in editor fr a screenshot???? |
| 23:47.41 | Corbo | waypoints? |
| 23:47.46 | DarkRevenant | waypoints |
| 23:47.48 | Corbo | lol |
| 23:47.48 | DarkRevenant | way to bypass the delay |
| 23:47.55 | Corbo | I tried doing that |
| 23:47.59 | Corbo | it was harder :P |
| 23:48.05 | RedWraith | so... |
| 23:48.05 | DarkRevenant | its really hard to |
| 23:48.06 | RedWraith | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/13437/ |
| 23:48.15 | DarkRevenant | do 17, 24, 23, and several others |
| 23:48.15 | RedWraith | full of map threads for maps I've never even seen |
| 23:48.21 | DarkRevenant | if you have to move 0.5-1s in advance |
| 23:48.35 | Corbo | want our replay? :D |
| 23:48.38 | Corbo | I do think we saved it |
| 23:48.39 | DarkRevenant | no |
| 23:48.41 | DarkRevenant | the replay |
| 23:48.45 | DarkRevenant | is just about useless |
| 23:48.47 | DarkRevenant | if i know how to win |
| 23:49.00 | DarkRevenant | i know HOW to win, it's just impossible with the kind of luck i've been getting with the lag |
| 23:49.00 | Corbo | k |
| 23:49.03 | redmarine | RedWraith, can't seem to find it |
| 23:49.31 | DarkRevenant | either way i dont think im missing much |
| 23:49.40 | DarkRevenant | level 25 is probably not all that great |
| 23:49.45 | redmarine | RedWraith, http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/169529393 |
| 23:49.46 | redmarine | Found it |
| 23:51.14 | redmarine | I just want to tear the limbs of those folks at the last page |
| 23:51.16 | RedWraith | redmarine, woah woah woah |
| 23:51.17 | RedWraith | EU? |
| 23:51.19 | redmarine | yeah |
| 23:51.26 | redmarine | on* |
| 23:51.39 | RedWraith | Aren't EU mapmakers a bunch of pompous assholes who never make anything? ;) |
| 23:51.46 | redmarine | Well, not exactly |
| 23:52.19 | redmarine | Let's just say that we're fewer but just as crazy as NA |
| 23:52.21 | RedWraith | In any case, I can't be all like HAHAHA in their faces |
| 23:52.23 | RedWraith | :( |
| 23:52.29 | IskatuMesk | hi |
| 23:52.29 | redmarine | lol xD |
| 23:52.42 | RedWraith | Why are your custom map forums so clean? T_T |
| 23:52.45 | RedWraith | look at the us ones |
| 23:52.50 | RedWraith | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/13437/ |
| 23:53.01 | bobthenoob | umm.. i have a triggering region to activate a dialog.. the problem is.. the dialog shows up on everyones screen... how do i make the triggering unit show the dialog on his own screen.. |
| 23:53.21 | RedWraith | Owner of Unit |
| 23:53.23 | RedWraith | bobthenoob |
| 23:53.30 | RedWraith | Owner of Triggering Unirt |
| 23:53.33 | RedWraith | more specifically |
| 23:53.35 | IskatuMesk | corbo |
| 23:53.47 | IskatuMesk | it is time |
| 23:53.52 | RedWraith | Show Dialog should tell you the player group as well |
| 23:54.01 | IskatuMesk | the Clapping Buttocks shall rise again |
| 23:54.48 | Ahmaz | *clap clap* |
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| 23:56.14 | redmarine | RedWraith, as I said, we're fewer :P |
| 23:56.16 | Corbo | time for what? |
| 23:56.32 | LordAbyss | hey corbo, how are the fuses holding up |
| 23:56.33 | LordAbyss | ? |
| 23:56.52 | Blacksoldier | someone has nice fonts and a little skill in graphics? need a title picture for my map... did a screenshot - not i just need the mapname in a nice font and its fine |
| 23:57.02 | Blacksoldier | not a huge work i think |
