IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20100907

`00:00.00`	`Komodo`	`i dont think there is a snap option`
`00:00.07`	`Copycat`	`I don't want to be careful, I want some simplicity lol.`
`00:00.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`ok eats now afk`
`00:00.09`	`Otixa`	`OH SNAP?`
`00:00.13`	`Copycat`	`I mean why wouldn't they add that simple feature`
`00:00.30`	`Komodo`	`here you go Otixa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI`
`00:00.48`	`Mozared`	`Because.... well, why would they?`
`00:00.53`	`Otixa`	`This was a triumph (>^_^)>`
`00:01.02`	`Otixa`	`I'm making a nothe here - HUGE SUCCESS <(^_^<)`
`00:01.02`	`Triceron`	`I thought there were guys who were gonna make a selendis model`
`00:01.03`	`Triceron`	`I saw a thread`
`00:01.06`	`Copycat`	`It's easy to add in, and it's quite useful`
`00:01.10`	`Otixa`	`It's hard to overstate my satisfaction`
`00:01.23`	`Otixa`	`Aperture science - We do what we must because we can`
`00:01.25`	`Otixa`	`etc ;p`
`00:01.35`	`Triceron`	`I want to do a Dark Templar hero that doesn't look like Zeratul, but equally as cool`
`00:01.44`	`Mozared`	`Well`
`00:01.48`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, do Selendis! >:[`
`00:01.49`	`Mozared`	`Tacos are easy to add in, and they're useful`
`00:01.51`	`Mozared`	`There's no tacos`
`00:01.56`	`Copycat`	`...`
`00:01.59`	`Mozared`	`If they had to add in everything that was easy to add in, they'd be busy for some time`
`00:02.07`	`Mozared`	`There's not a lot of people who'd use a grid tool, really`
`00:02.17`	`Triceron`	`yeah but she's a girl`
`00:02.25`	`Otixa`	`So? ;p`
`00:02.29`	`Otixa`	`Bonus tits`
`00:02.31`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`00:02.32`	`Triceron`	`girls are icky and have cooties`
`00:02.40`	`Triceron`	`does she even have breasts?`
`00:02.41`	`Otixa`	`Oh teh noes D:`
`00:02.42`	`Copycat`	`Everyone I know that used to make bounds used it in SC1`
`00:02.51`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, she better Â¬_Â¬`
`00:02.57`	`Triceron`	`do protoss females have em?`
`00:03.00`	`Mozared`	`They did it in SC1 because no better option existed? =P`
`00:03.04`	`Triceron`	`cuz... they don't have mouths to use em`
`00:03.05`	`Otixa`	`shrugs`
`00:03.10`	`XenoFenix`	`Otixa: :D I got it pelted! Now how do I figure out the xnormal part?`
`00:03.13`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, try groping Lilianna`
`00:03.22`	`Otixa`	`XenoFenix, wut ya mean?`
`00:03.22`	`Triceron`	`she's a protoss lady?`
`00:03.34`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, dunno... Do it just in case`
`00:03.37`	`Triceron`	`Lilianna, are you Protoss?`
`00:03.49`	`XenoFenix`	`Otixa: I don't know how to bake models :<`
`00:03.51`	`Lilianna`	`hmm?`
`00:03.59`	`Lilianna`	`Yah Im protoss, but Im pretty bad`
`00:04.01`	`WAR`	`Anyone else`
`00:04.03`	`Triceron`	`:O`
`00:04.05`	`Otixa`	`XenoFenix, I showed you guys twice >:\|`
`00:04.13`	`Otixa`	`What you need to do is`
`00:04.22`	`XenoFenix`	`Otixa: It bugged out T_T I tried watching itmany times`
`00:04.27`	`WAR`	`Anyone know why my game attributes is not showing up in lobby`
`00:04.28`	`Otixa`	`Export the highpoly mesh into 1 file, and don;t check anything in the exporter`
`00:04.29`	`WAR`	`I had set them`
`00:04.44`	`Otixa`	`Then export the lowpoly and check export UVs and Smoothing groups`
`00:04.52`	`Komodo`	`To bake a normal you have to set the oven to 350degrees`
`00:04.54`	`Arthas-`	`ty for waking me up`
`00:04.56`	`Arthas-`	`stupid tits highlight`
`00:05.02`	`Otixa`	`make sure they're both in the same x,y,z, position`
`00:05.04`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Does converting a real to an integer always truncate the number or round it?`
`00:05.06`	`Arthas-`	`turns sound of and goes back to bed`
`00:05.14`	`Triceron`	`Otixa, I got a Q. I'm re-exporting a modified asset from the game. Where do I source textures from so that the exported models use the same textures in game? They gotta be the same path as the game?`
`00:05.14`	`Otixa`	`Load the highpoly model into the highres mesh in xNormal`
`00:05.22`	`Otixa`	`And the lowpoly mesh into lowres mesh`
`00:05.23`	`Lilianna`	`ZarafFaraz, Should always truncate`
`00:05.29`	`ZarafFaraz`	`k thanks`
`00:05.34`	`Otixa`	`Set output to normal map and occlusion map`
`00:05.41`	`Otixa`	`and bucket size to 64`
`00:05.48`	`Otixa`	`output path to whatever`
`00:05.52`	`Otixa`	`and resolution to whatever`
`00:05.54`	`Otixa`	`and hit render`
`00:06.19`	`XenoFenix`	`Awesome :D I copy pasta'd that so I'll ask you that again`
`00:06.21`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, yeh. If the textures already exist ingame you don't need to re-import them`
`00:06.32`	`Triceron`	`but I mean for setting up in 3ds`
`00:06.36`	`Otixa`	`oh`
`00:06.37`	`Triceron`	`how do I source the textures?`
`00:06.44`	`Triceron`	`do I have to make copies in same folders?`
`00:06.45`	`Otixa`	`Well, do you have them exported?`
`00:06.46`	`*** join/#sc2mapster allenmelon (~amin@97-93-62-207.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com)`
`00:06.50`	`Triceron`	`yeah`
`00:06.54`	`Otixa`	`m'kay`
`00:06.58`	`Triceron`	`but in my own folder structure`
`00:06.59`	`Otixa`	`Just go to config > user paths`
`00:07.05`	`Triceron`	`cuz the .m3's are fickle about pathing`
`00:07.07`	`Otixa`	`And add the path to the folder`
`00:07.09`	`Triceron`	`oh`
`00:07.15`	`Triceron`	`hrm, okay`
`00:07.17`	`Otixa`	`Badum-tish`
`00:07.22`	`Blacksoldier`	`how to delete preplaced units which dont exist?`
`00:07.26`	`Otixa`	`Dunno how it works in Maya tho ;p`
`00:07.35`	`Lilianna`	`Oh I soo read that wrong`
`00:07.36`	`Otixa`	`Also`
`00:07.38`	`Lilianna`	`no groping me!`
`00:07.41`	`Otixa`	`gropes Lilianna`
`00:07.44`	`IhateBanelings`	`whats the action to remove the fog effect?`
`00:07.44`	`Lilianna`	`Ah!`
`00:07.44`	`Otixa`	`Too late`
`00:07.55`	`Lilianna`	`Also, Protoss photosynthesize`
`00:07.58`	`Otixa`	`It's for the greater good!`
`00:08.01`	`Lilianna`	`so boobs are just for looks`
`00:08.02`	`Lilianna`	`c.c`
`00:08.02`	`Triceron`	`so protoss ladies DO have lady bits`
`00:08.10`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`00:08.13`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Copycat1 (~Copycat@static24-72-91-11.r.rev.accesscomm.ca)`
`00:08.14`	`Otixa`	`highfives Triceron`
`00:08.23`	`UltiDrgn`	`facepalms`
`00:08.33`	`UltiDrgn`	`I swear if I get a Selendis back with double D's`
`00:08.36`	`UltiDrgn`	`I'm killing you both`
`00:08.41`	`Otixa`	`XD`
`00:08.45`	`Triceron`	`:D`
`00:08.57`	`Lilianna`	`The wont be double D's for long if shes a dark templar`
`00:09.08`	`Lilianna`	`psi blade gets in the way.. or boobs do...`
`00:09.11`	`Otixa`	`We may mess up the vertex positions in the upper body a bit <_<`
`00:09.13`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`00:09.16`	`ZarafFaraz`	`how exactly does modulo work? If I do 64/5, I get 12.8 12 * 5 = 60, and 64 - 60 = 4. Would Modulo return a 4?`
`00:09.32`	`Lilianna`	`Modulo should not give you a decimal point`
`00:09.37`	`Lilianna`	`if it is, their is something wrong`
`00:09.43`	`Lilianna`	`dont cast it to a real?`
`00:09.51`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I mean just a regular dividing`
`00:09.51`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, psi blades have boob sensors built in`
`00:10.02`	`Otixa`	`So they cut off power when amputation is imminent`
`00:10.04`	`Otixa`	`:P`
`00:10.14`	`Lilianna`	`Heh`
`00:10.18`	`Arthas-`	`ZarafFaraz yes`
`00:10.20`	`Arthas-`	`itd return 4`
`00:10.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Huesy (~Huesy@27-32-159-62.tpgi.com.au)`
`00:10.28`	`tordecybombo`	`G-UNIT`
`00:10.31`	`Lilianna`	`Mudro lis intiger divisions remainder`
`00:10.34`	`Huesy`	`Morning :)`
`00:10.35`	`Lilianna`	`Modulo*`
`00:10.40`	`Lilianna`	`but it has to be integer division`
`00:10.40`	`Otixa`	`is*`
`00:11.00`	`Huesy`	`Chinese websites are calling Starcrafter, 'Star Wars' >.<`
`00:11.09`	`ZarafFaraz`	`but what I don't get is that it has "Dividend mod 10"`
`00:11.12`	`Otixa`	`guys`
`00:11.13`	`Otixa`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaiJE8ndADE`
`00:11.15`	`ZarafFaraz`	`what does the mod 10 represent?`
`00:11.15`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`00:11.16`	`Lilianna`	`dude!`
`00:11.42`	`Triceron`	`pirates!`
`00:11.49`	`Otixa`	`>:]`
`00:11.50`	`Arthas-`	`Otixa Keelhauled is way better`
`00:11.56`	`Otixa`	`Nowai`
`00:11.59`	`Huesy`	`LazyTown version still better >_>`
`00:12.05`	`Arthas-`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99a6DaheLqs`
`00:12.06`	`Otixa`	`... :/`
`00:12.07`	`Arthas-`	`There ya go`
`00:12.14`	`Otixa`	`I don't like you guys anymore Â¬_Â¬`
`00:12.20`	`Otixa`	`Tho, I couldn't like you any less either`
`00:12.22`	`Otixa`	`;/`
`00:12.35`	`Huesy`	`Keytar!`
`00:12.51`	`Mozared`	`Hmm, Alestorm are pretty decent`
`00:12.56`	`Huesy`	`That almost beats Apache`
`00:13.03`	`Mozared`	`I saw them half a year back`
`00:13.06`	`Mozared`	`They're awesome live`
`00:13.13`	`Arthas-`	`Havent had a chance to see em live`
`00:13.25`	`Mozared`	`Was at Paganfest back then, Eluveitie was there too`
`00:13.26`	`Arthas-`	`Otixa piratesong is not better than keelhauled! :p`
`00:13.33`	`Mozared`	`Some fest that was, I'd see them again anytime =P`
`00:13.42`	`Otixa`	`It is >:[`
`00:13.42`	`Mozared`	`And it totally isn't =P`
`00:13.50`	`Huesy`	`This isn't good......... http://www.ahughes.net/banter/e915df0bbf3ebc5a68fd2dcfa2caa3e5.png`
`00:14.23`	`Mozared`	`Yo dawg`
`00:14.27`	`Mozared`	`I heard you like unknown functions`
`00:14.33`	`Huesy`	`haha`
`00:14.34`	`Mozared`	`So we put some unknown functions in your unknown functions`
`00:14.38`	`Huesy`	`I like mystery`
`00:14.43`	`Mozared`	`So you can do unknown stuff while you trigger`
`00:14.46`	`Huesy`	`This is baad`
`00:15.03`	`Arthas-`	`on a more serious note`
`00:15.08`	`Arthas-`	`it shouldnt look like that!`
`00:15.27`	`Otixa`	`WAAAAITAMINUTE`
`00:15.33`	`Otixa`	`IT'S A FUCKING MAC`
`00:15.35`	`Otixa`	`rages`
`00:15.46`	`Mozared`	`Mac is the shit`
`00:15.46`	`Huesy`	`Otixa: I know, I hate it >.<`
`00:15.51`	`Mozared`	`If you like not playin games`
`00:15.57`	`Triceron`	`Huesy, you're the cast bar dude!`
`00:15.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`sup broskies`
`00:16.00`	`Otixa`	`And I was bitching at Lilianna about using Bender ;/`
`00:16.01`	`Arthas-`	`Otixa you made me think of http://9gag.com/photo/22715_540.jpg`
`00:16.01`	`Triceron`	`I liked the cast bar`
`00:16.02`	`Triceron`	`it's awesome`
`00:16.06`	`Huesy`	`"cast bar dude" :P`
`00:16.09`	`Huesy`	`hehe thanks`
`00:16.17`	`Huesy`	`Unfortunately it no longer works!`
`00:16.20`	`Triceron`	`:O`
`00:16.21`	`Huesy`	`It's 'Unknown"`
`00:16.22`	`Otixa`	`Arthas-, oll`
`00:16.23`	`Triceron`	`borked!`
`00:16.25`	`Otixa`	`lol* Â¬_Â¬`
`00:16.35`	`Lilianna`	`what now?`
`00:16.52`	`Mozared`	`The portal rage is awesome =')`
`00:16.59`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, Bender! >:\|`
`00:17.08`	`Arthas-`	`indeed :D`
`00:17.12`	`Mozared`	`Bend who?`
`00:17.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol bender`
`00:17.20`	`Otixa`	`Blender ;p`
`00:17.30`	`Lilianna`	`Im not bender`
`00:17.39`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, you're using Blender`
`00:17.48`	`Lilianna`	`not really`
`00:17.49`	`Otixa`	`shakes fist`
`00:17.50`	`Otixa`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAdmfIrjKQQ`
`00:17.54`	`Lilianna`	`since the m3 plugin was made for 2.53`
`00:17.54`	`Otixa`	`also, this ^`
`00:17.58`	`Lilianna`	`and I can only use 2.49`
`00:18.05`	`Arthas-`	`otixa nice pick`
`00:18.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`bender.`
`00:18.21`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, or you could watch ModCraft and learn 3d S&M :D`
`00:18.38`	`Huesy`	`phew....just needed to restart map editor`
`00:19.03`	`Huesy`	`Almost lost 4 weeks of work`
`00:19.05`	`Lilianna`	`or I coould just not model, like I planne`
`00:19.06`	`Lilianna`	`d`
`00:19.13`	`Huesy`	`backs up`
`00:19.18`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, option not acceptable`
`00:19.19`	`Huesy`	`backups?`
`00:19.23`	`Otixa`	`smacks Lilianna`
`00:19.26`	`tordecybombo`	`what's a marker`
`00:19.30`	`Lilianna`	`:p`
`00:19.38`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Anyone able to please help me figure out how to use modulo?`
`00:19.39`	`tordecybombo`	`like how one of the validators are No Markers`
`00:19.44`	`tordecybombo`	`what does that mean exactly?`
`00:19.48`	`Komodo`	`modeling is fun unless the program crashes and you forget to save`
`00:20.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`I save religiously along with having autobak on`
`00:20.32`	`Rodrigo`	`Sixen`
`00:20.34`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, you're still doing commenting for MC regardless ;p`
`00:20.37`	`Otixa`	`Let's see...`
`00:20.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`you work that into your head after you lose a lot of work repeatedly`
`00:20.44`	`Lilianna`	`c.c`
`00:20.47`	`Otixa`	`Edmonton, Canada...`
`00:20.54`	`Otixa`	`That's -7 time, rite?`
`00:21.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh god edmonton is semi-close`
`00:21.14`	`Arthas-`	`also`
`00:21.15`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I live in Edmonton`
`00:21.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`I think anyways`
`00:21.15`	`Arthas-`	`http://www.moronail.net/img/1941_yo_dawg_we_heard_you_like_batman`
`00:21.22`	`Arthas-`	`since we had a short moment of xzibit`
`00:21.23`	`Komodo`	`I live in Calgary :P`
`00:21.35`	`Otixa`	`Calgawut? :D`
`00:21.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`bc`
`00:21.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`abbotsford`
`00:21.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`highest crime rates woot`
`00:22.00`	`Komodo`	`lol`
`00:22.01`	`UltiDrgn`	`Oh yeah - how's that flag working for you Otixa`
`00:22.10`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kalekin (~nnscript@41-132-39-28.dsl.mweb.co.za)`
`00:22.14`	`ZarafFaraz`	`so who else besides me was in Edmonton?`
`00:22.16`	`Otixa`	`UltiDrgn, eh, not bad. Stopped tweaking it for now`
`00:22.35`	`Rodrigo`	`hey, someone wants to play a match of Platform Defense?`
`00:22.38`	`Komodo`	`Not in edmonton but close :P`
`00:22.48`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Iskatu, Abbotsford is like a good 12 hour drive from Edmonton :P`
`00:22.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`that's fairly close I guess`
`00:23.02`	`Arthas-`	`ima leave some moonspell and just go afk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pC77cuATEQ`
`00:23.04`	`ZarafFaraz`	`ahh, Otixa was talking about you Komodo?`
`00:23.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`closer than most people I know`
`00:23.13`	`Otixa`	`Wut`
`00:23.18`	`Otixa`	`You guys confuse me D:`
`00:23.21`	`Otixa`	`runs`
`00:23.33`	`Komodo`	`People always talks about me :P`
`00:23.36`	`Huesy`	`I'm in Abbotsford now actually....the Victoria, Australian one :P`
`00:23.37`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Otixa, who were you talking about when you said: [18:20] <Otixa> Edmonton, Canada...`
`00:23.37`	`ZarafFaraz`	`[18:20] <Otixa> That's -7 time, rite?`
`00:23.54`	`Otixa`	`Noone!`
`00:23.56`	`Otixa`	`@_.`
`00:24.02`	`ZarafFaraz`	`so then why were you saying that?`
`00:24.05`	`Rodrigo`	`damn friends list. I can only have 100 friends. Now I can't add anyone.`
`00:24.16`	`Otixa`	`Was talking to Lilianna >:\|`
`00:24.22`	`Komodo`	`lol`
`00:25.16`	`Rodrigo`	`========= Platform Defense: Cheaper unit of the time: Sentry (0 minerals) ============`
`00:25.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh right, that's what I was doing`
`00:25.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`trying to find the last of my lost sound assets and get them all in one place`
`00:25.53`	`Otixa`	`I... I will deny you! This world belongs to me!`
`00:25.57`	`Otixa`	`swings scythe`
`00:26.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`but`
`00:26.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have cake`
`00:26.20`	`Otixa`	`:o`
`00:26.30`	`Otixa`	`I guess you can have SOME of the world then Â¬_Â¬`
`00:26.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`^____________^`
`00:27.17`	`ZarafFaraz`	`so Lilianna is in Edmonton?`
`00:27.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`stalking time?`
`00:27.37`	`Otixa`	`stalks`
`00:27.38`	`ZarafFaraz`	`lol`
`00:27.42`	`Lilianna`	`lol`
`00:27.42`	`Otixa`	`Beanstalks`
`00:27.45`	`Lilianna`	`no, Im in California`
`00:27.46`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`00:27.49`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I love Protoss Stalkers`
`00:27.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh`
`00:28.00`	`Lilianna`	`I am a Protoss Stalker!`
`00:28.01`	`Lilianna`	`c.c`
`00:28.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`everyone is from cali`
`00:28.02`	`ZarafFaraz`	`they're so badass in Marine Arena`
`00:28.14`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, you have no body? :o`
`00:28.15`	`Huesy`	`You can blink too!`
`00:28.18`	`ZarafFaraz`	`13/f/cali?`
`00:28.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`mmmm`
`00:28.28`	`Otixa`	`Just a floating upperbody suspended in a silly walking machine?!`
`00:28.37`	`UltiDrgn`	`._. always wondered that`
`00:28.38`	`Lilianna`	`maybe`
`00:28.40`	`Otixa`	`And all you can do is blink!`
`00:28.48`	`UltiDrgn`	`Wtf IS a stalker`
`00:28.51`	`Lilianna`	`c.c`
`00:28.54`	`Blacksoldier`	`HELP i got a problem with my morph ability`
`00:28.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`a gundam`
`00:28.57`	`Otixa`	`UltiDrgn, kinda like you :D`
`00:29.01`	`Otixa`	`But shoots laz0rz`
`00:29.02`	`UltiDrgn`	`LIES`
`00:29.08`	`UltiDrgn`	`throws a smoke bomb`
`00:29.15`	`UltiDrgn`	`reappears 50 feet away`
`00:29.18`	`Otixa`	`shoops da whoop on UltiDrgn`
`00:29.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`I wish there was a cinematic carrier model`
`00:29.31`	`Huesy`	`"floating upperbody suspended in a silly walking machine" in google images = random`
`00:29.37`	`Otixa`	`Make one, Mesk :P`
`00:29.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmmm`
`00:29.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`I could potentially try`
`00:30.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`not sure about skinning it though`
`00:30.09`	`Otixa`	`Huesy, lemme try`
`00:30.15`	`Otixa`	`shoves Huesy to the side`
`00:30.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`00:30.25`	`Lilianna`	`blinks away!`
`00:30.36`	`Triceron`	`you could make one Iskatumesk! I seen your models`
`00:30.38`	`Otixa`	`Yeh, nothing good ;/`
`00:30.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Manquiche (~chatzilla@cpc2-uddi10-0-0-cust556.uddi.cable.virginmedia.com)`
`00:30.46`	`Lilianna`	`Triceron, You should make a stalker hero!`
`00:30.49`	`Lilianna`	`with ribbons!`
`00:30.52`	`Triceron`	`oooh`
`00:30.57`	`Triceron`	`pink stalker`
`00:30.59`	`Manquiche`	`hello`
`00:31.02`	`Otixa`	`...NO!`
`00:31.03`	`Lilianna`	`Flowers!`
`00:31.04`	`Lilianna`	`:D`
`00:31.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`<3 pink`
`00:31.06`	`Otixa`	`NONONONONONONONNONO`
`00:31.07`	`Triceron`	`hello kitty stalker!`
`00:31.08`	`Otixa`	`NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO`
`00:31.10`	`Huesy`	`I didn't say good, just random ;)`
`00:31.11`	`Lilianna`	`YES!`
`00:31.11`	`Otixa`	`screeches`
`00:31.17`	`Otixa`	`swings scythe`
`00:31.20`	`Huesy`	`Also, haha made you look.`
`00:31.22`	`Lilianna`	`Victoria's Secrete Stalker?`
`00:31.22`	`ZarafFaraz`	`it'll be interesting what kind of new models we'll get in the other two SC2 games`
`00:31.27`	`Lilianna`	`whatever`
`00:31.30`	`Lilianna`	`cant spell right now!`
`00:31.35`	`Triceron`	`and it shoots rainbows`
`00:31.39`	`Lilianna`	`Secret`
`00:31.39`	`Otixa`	`pats Lilianna on the face`
`00:31.42`	`Triceron`	`oh wait`
`00:31.44`	`Triceron`	`little hearts`
`00:31.45`	`Eiviyn`	`If one isn't a bloody human kerrigan...`
`00:31.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`and unicorns?`
`00:31.47`	`Lilianna`	`eats Otixa's hand`
`00:31.52`	`Otixa`	`:C`
`00:31.53`	`Triceron`	`like that fembot in Virtual On`
`00:31.57`	`goomba_`	`goomba_`
`00:31.58`	`Lilianna`	`Triceron, the blink makes rainbows`
`00:32.02`	`Triceron`	`glowing heart attacks!`
`00:32.05`	`Otixa`	`grows a new one and watches Lilianna die of nicotine poisoning`
`00:32.08`	`Eiviyn`	`We have a warbot, a fembot only makes sense`
`00:32.10`	`Triceron`	`yes! blink in a puff of rainbow sparkles`
`00:32.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`it can throw pigeons like the dude of the groove in wc3`
`00:32.23`	`Blacksoldier`	`HELP i got a problem with my morph ability`
`00:32.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`big, glowing pink pigeons`
`00:32.28`	`UltiDrgn`	`So....I'm going to be over there in the sanity corner`
`00:32.30`	`Blacksoldier`	`my unit cant use it`
`00:32.31`	`Mozared`	`This is ridiculous`
`00:32.32`	`Triceron`	`ooh`
`00:32.38`	`Mozared`	`The command for closing a gate, is`
`00:32.41`	`Mozared`	`(wait for it)`
`00:32.41`	`Triceron`	`I always wanted to remodel the keeper dude from War3 too`
`00:32.45`	`Mozared`	`ISSUE NO COMMAND AT ALL`
`00:32.47`	`Mozared`	`-.-`
`00:32.49`	`Triceron`	`either him or Malfurion`
`00:32.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`00:32.53`	`Eiviyn`	`Closing a gate?`
`00:32.57`	`Mozared`	`Aye`
`00:33.06`	`Otixa`	`Mozared, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-exiKRZZUuU`
`00:33.14`	`ZarafFaraz`	`WC3 had much better unit dialog than SC2`
`00:33.16`	`Eiviyn`	`Pretty sure it's an animation responce, that's how I opened my gates`
`00:33.20`	`tordecybombo`	`i forgot what the difference between max and max clamp is`
`00:33.24`	`Otixa`	`Rock and troll! \m/(^_^)>\m/`
`00:33.30`	`Mozared`	`Animation response? Wait, what?`
`00:33.39`	`Mozared`	`I just issued an 'open gate' order to the gate unit?`
`00:33.45`	`Mozared`	`And apparently to close it you issue 'no order'`
`00:33.54`	`Mozared`	`Also, lol Otixa`
`00:33.54`	`tordecybombo`	`oh clamp is boudns`
`00:33.55`	`tordecybombo`	`bounds`
`00:33.56`	`tordecybombo`	`oh wow`
`00:34.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`that is amazing`
`00:34.01`	`Lilianna`	`Rocket Troll`
`00:34.05`	`ZarafFaraz`	`yeah, "no order" to close gates`
`00:34.11`	`ZarafFaraz`	`OR you create a custom ability for closing gates`
`00:34.14`	`Otixa`	`AGAINST ALL ODDS`
`00:34.17`	`Otixa`	`INFILTRATE`
`00:34.21`	`Otixa`	`STORM THE GATES!!`
`00:34.22`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`00:34.23`	`ZarafFaraz`	`but I don't know how to select "no order" in the issue orders`
`00:34.29`	`ZarafFaraz`	`I just copied and pasted from the Blizzard maps`
`00:34.38`	`Lilianna`	`Clear all orders?`
`00:34.42`	`Eiviyn`	`Issue order with no point`
`00:34.43`	`Mozared`	`That's what I did`
`00:34.47`	`Eiviyn`	`Ironic naming`
`00:34.57`	`Otixa`	`issues pointless orders`
`00:35.07`	`Otixa`	`We have issues`
`00:35.09`	`Otixa`	`Give us tittues`
`00:35.16`	`Otixa`	`tissues* Â¬_Â¬`
`00:35.17`	`Mozared`	`orders pointless issues`
`00:35.20`	`Mozared`	`(see what I did there?)`
`00:35.37`	`Otixa`	`casts fireball into Mozared's face point blank`
`00:35.41`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`00:35.51`	`Lilianna`	`goes in search of tittues`
`00:35.58`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`00:36.04`	`Otixa`	`I CAN SPELL`
`00:36.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`an epic quest of the soul?`
`00:36.15`	`Lilianna`	`maybe, but can you SPOOL!`
`00:36.24`	`Otixa`	`No, I can spll`
`00:36.28`	`Otixa`	`nods to self`
`00:36.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Arthas-2 (~zet@ip3-100.bon.riksnet.se)`
`00:36.35`	`Lilianna`	`Are you smrt?`
`00:36.42`	`Otixa`	`Vry smrt`
`00:36.43`	`Manquiche`	`is there any use for creating a new camera in the data editor or should i just edit the Default Camera?`
`00:36.43`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`00:37.09`	`Otixa`	`I still haven't had coffee today ;/`
`00:37.22`	`Otixa`	`But then again, I woke up an hour or so ago :P`
`00:37.29`	`RedWraith`	`Hey guys, how would I access Lost Temple? >_>`
`00:37.47`	`Otixa`	`RedWraith, you must first find the timelost artefact`
`00:37.56`	`Otixa`	`And bring it to the Zoomaji tribe`
`00:38.05`	`Otixa`	`They will send you into a deep, dark cavern`
`00:38.13`	`Otixa`	`Tahe this, the journey will be dangerous`
`00:38.21`	`Otixa`	`hands RedWraith a kitten`
`00:38.35`	`Manquiche`	`let me rephrase`
`00:38.38`	`Manquiche`	`how do cameras works`
`00:38.41`	`Manquiche`	`?`
`00:38.42`	`RedWraith`	`...`
`00:38.43`	`RedWraith`	`Nevermind.`
`00:38.44`	`RedWraith`	`>_>`
`00:38.47`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`00:38.54`	`Otixa`	`highfives self`
`00:39.07`	`Mozared`	`What are you trying to achieve, Manquiche?`
`00:39.14`	`Mozared`	`I'm a self-induced pro on cameras`
`00:39.19`	`Mozared`	`And definitely NOT because I want to be -,-`
`00:39.36`	`Huesy`	`Can anyone explain this? http://www.ahughes.net/banter/8fc464bd707e738a227f7f2ed4e77d22.png`
`00:39.38`	`Manquiche`	`im playing around with the editor under the guise of creating an rpg map`
`00:39.41`	`Otixa`	`This reminds me that I still need to do the camera lib <_<`
`00:39.42`	`Huesy`	`Trying to hide errors`
`00:39.45`	`Manquiche`	`diablo 2 style`
`00:39.52`	`Blacksoldier`	`why the hell my morph effect doesnt work? i added to my unit a button, choosed "ability" took the morph ability - in the ability command field there is no entry... whentesting the map my unit doesnt have te spell to morph!!!!`
`00:40.01`	`Manquiche`	`im just wondering about cameras`
`00:40.19`	`Mozared`	`Huesy, the error hiding panel is probably something different`
`00:40.22`	`Mozared`	`and Manq`
`00:40.27`	`Mozared`	`I suggest you data edit the standard camera`
`00:40.36`	`Mozared`	`That worked best for me so far`
`00:40.37`	`Huesy`	`I've also hidden the alert panel among others to test`
`00:40.41`	`Mozared`	`All you really need to know`
`00:40.43`	`Manquiche`	`ive modified the Default Camera already`
`00:40.48`	`Manquiche`	`to remove smoothing`
`00:40.59`	`Mozared`	`You need to scroll down all the way`
`00:41.00`	`Manquiche`	`and ive made a trigger to have the cam follow my unit (which will be the player hero)`
`00:41.07`	`Mozared`	`and find the field that says 'disable' a gazillion times`
`00:41.08`	`Otixa`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJTYp1tvd3Q&NR=1`
`00:41.20`	`Mozared`	`you can edit distance/pitch et all of the different zooming modes there`
`00:41.25`	`Mozared`	`That's basically ally ou need`
`00:41.27`	`Jum-Jum`	`my AI doesnt make sense`
`00:41.28`	`Mozared`	`Well, that and love`
`00:41.31`	`Manquiche`	`thats one thing i wondered`
`00:41.43`	`Manquiche`	`if i want to modify the perspective of my player cam`
`00:41.48`	`RedWraith`	`Is there a way to get terrain to stretch out instead of tile?`
`00:41.49`	`Manquiche`	`i just edit fields on the default cam?`
`00:41.56`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Lajla (~Lajla@213-84-222-243.adsl.xs4all.nl)`
`00:42.01`	`RedWraith`	`or to make tiles larger?`
`00:42.37`	`Blacksoldier`	`why the hell my morph effect doesnt work? i added to my unit a button, choosed "ability" took the morph ability - in the ability command field there is no entry... whentesting the map my unit doesnt have te spell to morph!!!!`
`00:43.00`	`Eiviyn`	`Huesy, you're trying to issue orders to an enemy unit`
`00:43.04`	`Eiviyn`	`Not sure what's confusing`
`00:43.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mozared_ (525ffb7c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.95.251.124)`
`00:43.21`	`Trunk`	`does anyone have an answer?`
`00:43.22`	`Trunk`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/`
`00:43.23`	`Mozared_`	`Why do I always disc just as I reach the conclusion of my statement? >.>`
`00:43.27`	`Otixa`	`stares at Eiviyn`
`00:43.30`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`00:43.31`	`Eiviyn`	`Oh your trigger field, I should read the thing before commenting`
`00:43.34`	`Mozared_`	`As I was saying - if you make a camera by triggers`
`00:43.38`	`Eiviyn`	`I have a fix for that somewhere`
`00:43.43`	`Mozared_`	`There is no way to make it so that the player can't mouse-wheel-zoom out of it`
`00:43.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Though not sure what I did with the map...`
`00:43.50`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, FROM WHENCE YOU CAME YOU SHALL REMAIN UNTIL YOU ARE COMPLETE AGAIN`
`00:43.50`	`Jum-Jum`	`Does anybody here have any experience with multiple AIs?`
`00:43.51`	`Mozared_`	`He cna always 'zoom out' to reset the camera more or less completely`
`00:43.58`	`Jum-Jum`	`I have 5 zerg players and they are all suppose to ubild the same units`
`00:44.02`	`Jum-Jum`	`but only one of them work at the time`
`00:44.07`	`Mozared_`	`There's just the 'disable all camera input' trigger for it`
`00:44.12`	`Mozared_`	`but that prevents him from scrolling as well`
`00:44.18`	`Mozared_`	`so in most cases, you need to just edit the data editor`
`00:44.22`	`Jum-Jum`	`if I move the 5th zerg players trigger to the top he spawns fine`
`00:45.05`	`Manquiche`	`mozared, so you can edit the default camera in the data editor to remove the ability to mouse scroll, mouse wheel zoom etc?`
`00:45.06`	`Huesy`	`Eiviyn: The enemy unit is simply selected. I realise with the default game mechanics it's trying to move an enemy unit, but the one I'm developing you're not trying to move it, just click away or attack.`
`00:45.09`	`Manquiche`	`or an i mistaken?`
`00:45.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tinman (bjodeh@194.69.212.184)`
`00:45.26`	`Mozared_`	`That should be right, yup`
`00:45.28`	`Otixa`	`Huesy, I think I sent her back to hell :B`
`00:45.30`	`Manquiche`	`ok great`
`00:45.32`	`Manquiche`	`now`
`00:45.34`	`Mozared_`	`I'm not sure if you can 'delete' the different scrolling modi`
`00:45.35`	`Otixa`	`stabs Tinman`
`00:45.38`	`Mozared_`	`But you can just set them to all have the same values`
`00:45.41`	`Mozared_`	`And scrolling won't do anything`
`00:45.43`	`Mozared_`	`If it's needed`
`00:45.56`	`Manquiche`	`well, the way i have my camera set up, i dont need to worry about anything but clicking the unit portrait`
`00:46.00`	`Huesy`	`Otixa: Couldn't you wait a few seconds?!`
`00:46.03`	`Manquiche`	`im using the 'lock input' trigger`
`00:46.07`	`Otixa`	`Sorry :<`
`00:46.12`	`Manquiche`	`since i want the cam to stick to the player and never move or be moveable`
`00:46.15`	`Mozared_`	`You're using the follow unit action then?`
`00:46.18`	`Otixa`	`summons Eiviyn from the depths of hell`
`00:46.19`	`Mozared_`	`Ahh, fair enough`
`00:46.22`	`Manquiche`	`yeah`
`00:46.26`	`Mozared_`	`In that case you shouldn't need to edit the normal cam at all though`
`00:46.28`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys)`
`00:46.39`	`Manquiche`	`well i still need to edit it to change the actual perspective?`
`00:46.40`	`Mozared_`	`If you stick with Lock Input you can just make one camera through the normal camera system`
`00:46.41`	`Mozared_`	`and apply that`
`00:46.45`	`Otixa`	`It takes a while ;/`
`00:46.47`	`Eiviyn`	`*is busy trying to a) figure out how to do emotes and b) remember how to hide errors`
`00:46.51`	`Eiviyn`	`hi`
`00:46.53`	`Eiviyn`	`!!`
`00:46.54`	`Manquiche`	`ah`
`00:46.58`	`Otixa`	`It worked!`
`00:47.04`	`Otixa`	`I am the greatest warlock ever!`
`00:47.08`	`Mozared_`	`Or at least`
`00:47.09`	`Otixa`	`/flex`
`00:47.16`	`Mozared_`	`I'm not entirely sure for TPS based cams`
`00:47.18`	`Triceron`	`hax`
`00:47.23`	`Mozared_`	`If you use the normal camera+follow`
`00:47.27`	`Mozared_`	`I don't think your camera turns`
`00:47.33`	`Manquiche`	`i dont need it to turn`
`00:47.34`	`Mozared_`	`You'll want to look up a tutorial for details on that`
`00:47.39`	`Mozared_`	`You only walk in a straight line?`
`00:47.44`	`Mozared_`	`Or are you looking from up top?`
`00:47.45`	`Manquiche`	`its not a tps`
`00:47.47`	`Manquiche`	`sorry`
`00:47.57`	`Manquiche`	`its practically the same as default`
`00:48.05`	`Manquiche`	`with 2 edits`
`00:48.16`	`Manquiche`	`1, the camera is not moveable by the player, it is locked to the unit`
`00:48.23`	`Manquiche`	`and 2, i want a more 'top down' view than the default`
`00:48.28`	`Manquiche`	`1 i have done`
`00:48.33`	`Manquiche`	`2, i can do using the editor?`
`00:48.37`	`Otixa`	`I think it's time for me to lurk the forums in search of actually good questions Â¬_Â¬`
`00:48.38`	`Manquiche`	`the zoom field or something?`
`00:48.42`	`Mozared_`	`Yeah, 2 is easy`
`00:48.46`	`Otixa`	`turns to smoke and flies away`
`00:48.49`	`Mozared_`	`Just press C in the terrain editor`
`00:48.54`	`Mozared_`	`Scroll so you have the view you want`
`00:48.57`	`Mozared_`	`Click 'create camera'`
`00:48.58`	`Mozared_`	`????`
`00:48.58`	`Mozared_`	`profit`
`00:49.16`	`Manquiche`	`so just create a cam`
`00:49.22`	`Mozared_`	`Aye`
`00:49.23`	`Manquiche`	`set its perspective the way i want`
`00:49.28`	`Manquiche`	`and set it using triggers?`
`00:49.41`	`Blacksoldier`	`why the hell my morph effect doesnt work? i added to my unit a button, choosed "ability" took the morph ability - in the ability command field there is no entry... whentesting the map my unit doesnt have te spell to morph!!!!`
`00:50.05`	`Manquiche`	`thanks mozared`
`00:50.11`	`Manquiche`	`there is one other thing for the moment though`
`00:50.18`	`Manquiche`	`i have my cam working perfectly`
`00:50.27`	`Manquiche`	`follows the unit precisely`
`00:50.32`	`Huesy`	`Eiviyn: Found it`
`00:50.42`	`Mozared_`	`(on a sidenote, what's the IRC command for changing your name?)`
`00:50.42`	`Eiviyn`	`What was it? It's killing me trying to remember`
`00:50.43`	`Manquiche`	`no 'falling behind' since i modified the smooth time values in default camera in the data editor`
`00:50.48`	`Huesy`	`Disable (Smart Click) for (All Players)`
`00:51.00`	`Eiviyn`	`Definitely wasn't that that I used`
`00:51.03`	`Manquiche`	`and with the lock input trigger, the player cant do anything to the camera`
`00:51.06`	`Manquiche`	`except for 1 thing`
`00:51.10`	`Otixa`	`pats Eiviyn on the head`
`00:51.14`	`Huesy`	`I've tried pretty much everything else O.o`
`00:51.16`	`Eiviyn`	`I'm sure it was hiding the error panel, but yeah I checked myself and it doesn't work`
`00:51.16`	`Otixa`	`You're actually hellping people :D`
`00:51.20`	`Otixa`	`-l`
`00:51.22`	`Mozared_`	`He can click the unit portrait`
`00:51.25`	`Manquiche`	`clicking the unit portrait breaks the follow, so the camera is stuck, locked, and no longer following the unit`
`00:51.28`	`Mozared_`	`And stop the camera from following?`
`00:51.30`	`Manquiche`	`is there a workaround?`
`00:51.35`	`Otixa`	`Well, sorta`
`00:51.38`	`Mozared_`	`Not that I know of`
`00:51.39`	`Manquiche`	`other than a 'reset' button?`
`00:51.40`	`Eiviyn`	`Not helping people, attempting to redeem myself for saying something stupid`
`00:51.40`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`00:51.44`	`Mozared_`	`Yeah, just the reset button`
`00:51.53`	`*** join/#sc2mapster HR_ (4cd01caa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.208.28.170)`
`00:51.56`	`Mozared_`	`OR well`
`00:51.57`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, there is no such thing as redemption >:[`
`00:52.02`	`Mozared_`	`You can try looking in the actions for UI`
`00:52.03`	`Huesy`	`Well, thanks for the 'help'? Eiviyn :)`
`00:52.12`	`Otixa`	`sends Eiviyn back to hell`
`00:52.15`	`Mozared_`	`see if there's something that resembles the 'click on portrait' function`
`00:52.16`	`Manquiche`	`and change the behaviour of clicking on the portrait?`
`00:52.17`	`Mozared_`	`and turn it off`
`00:52.18`	`Manquiche`	`is possible?`
`00:52.22`	`Manquiche`	`yeah`
`00:52.27`	`Manquiche`	`ill need to try that`
`00:52.32`	`Mozared_`	`Hmm, it might be a 'unit's behaviour too`
`00:52.35`	`Mozared_`	`Let me know what you find out`
`00:52.57`	`Manquiche`	`i shall`
`00:52.57`	`Triceron`	`the only other solution I can think of is using colored lights for certain areas to accent the colors you need`
`00:52.59`	`Manquiche`	`brb`
`00:53.00`	`HR_`	`does anybody know a model or spell effect that looks like white lines coming off a unit, like speed lines`
`00:53.01`	`Triceron`	`ah crap`
`00:53.40`	`Triceron`	`there's one that happens in the menu`
`00:53.48`	`Triceron`	`when the battlecruiser comes in`
`00:53.55`	`Triceron`	`but it's part of the menu .m3 I think`
`00:54.01`	`HR_`	`i want a graphics effect for going through speed tunnel, i aldready used fire trails for a speed boost powerup`
`00:54.06`	`Jum-Jum`	`this has to be bugged`
`00:54.23`	`Otixa`	`Guys`
`00:54.24`	`Otixa`	`Guys`
`00:54.25`	`Jum-Jum`	`my attack waves and AI only work for player 3`
`00:54.27`	`Xenrathe`	`zomg guys`
`00:54.28`	`Otixa`	`I'm bored :/`
`00:54.33`	`Jum-Jum`	`actually they only work for 1 AI`
`00:54.40`	`Jum-Jum`	`for some reason it refuse to work for more than one player`
`00:54.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`I am going CRAZY`
`00:54.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH`
`00:54.57`	`Jum-Jum`	`and I can't find any reason for it to be acting up like this`
`00:55.03`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, me too :D`
`00:55.10`	`Otixa`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2B6SjMh_w`
`00:55.11`	`Blacksoldier`	`me too`
`00:55.27`	`Blacksoldier`	`cuz of this fking editor...`
`00:55.32`	`Blacksoldier`	`bugs everywhere`
`00:55.48`	`Otixa`	`Insanity consumes me`
`00:55.54`	`Otixa`	`It feels... so good...`
`00:55.54`	`HR_`	`ya triceron, thats exactly what i need`
`00:55.57`	`Otixa`	`>=]`
`00:56.07`	`HR_`	`if only i could find a model for it`
`00:56.10`	`Rodrigo`	`someone wants to play platform defense?`
`00:56.29`	`RedWraith`	`bah`
`00:56.31`	`RedWraith`	`I can't find`
`00:56.32`	`Blacksoldier`	`why the hell my morph effect doesnt work? i added to my unit a button, choosed "ability" took the morph ability - in the ability command field there is no entry... whentesting the map my unit doesnt have te spell to morph!!!!`
`00:56.34`	`RedWraith`	`a good texture`
`00:56.36`	`RedWraith`	`for the floor`
`00:56.37`	`RedWraith`	`:[`
`00:57.57`	`Xenrathe`	`Hard to find good teammates...`
`00:58.02`	`Mozared_`	`God, the editor is retarded when it comes to opening Blizzard maps`
`00:58.12`	`Otixa`	`smacks Xenrathe`
`00:58.14`	`Mozared_`	`Even if I don't change anything at all, it seems to think that my map suddenly IS the blizzard map`
`00:58.19`	`Mozared_`	`And it asks me if I want to save MY map`
`00:58.31`	`Mozared_`	`which leads it to attempting to save the blizzard map`
`00:58.33`	`Mozared_`	`under my map's name`
`00:58.38`	`Xenrathe`	`Whatamigettinsmacked for?`
`00:58.40`	`Blacksoldier`	`i dont know why there is no entry and i dont know how to edit the raw data in this case... would be great when someone could help me`
`00:58.55`	`Otixa`	`Xenrathe, because I can!`
`00:58.56`	`Otixa`	`>:]`
`00:59.01`	`Xenrathe`	`True.`
`01:00.05`	`Xenrathe`	`Anyone here like tactics console games, like Vandal Hearts or FFT?`
`01:00.12`	`Manquiche`	`mozard, i cant find anything related to the unit portrait`
`01:00.20`	`Triceron`	`ogre battle`
`01:00.28`	`Manquiche`	`however, there are two trigger events that can possibly be used`
`01:00.53`	`Xenrathe`	`ogre battle was a good one...`
`01:00.59`	`Manquiche`	`mozared *`
`01:01.19`	`Mozared_`	`Which are they?`
`01:01.25`	`Mozared_`	`(again, what's the rename command on IRC?)`
`01:01.38`	`Otixa`	`fumes`
`01:01.39`	`Mozared`	`(That's it)`
`01:01.45`	`ZarafFaraz`	`if I have a "pick each player" within a for loop, and then I use a "Break" in the pick each player loop, will the break only break the Pick Each Player loop? Or will it stop the For Loop as well?`
`01:01.50`	`Manquiche`	`1, the 'mouse click' event`
`01:01.58`	`Manquiche`	`i cant find out exactly how to set this`
`01:02.18`	`Xenrathe`	`Zara I'm pretty sure it breaks the single loop`
`01:02.27`	`ZarafFaraz`	`ok thanks`
`01:02.29`	`Mozared`	`Hmm, that would be an argueous road to go down`
`01:02.31`	`Manquiche`	`but the description of the mouse click event when you highlight it, says, you can use "Mouse Clicked UI Pos X" and "Y"`
`01:02.32`	`HR_`	`just the pick player loop`
`01:02.42`	`HR_`	`if you want to be sure your can look at the script`
`01:02.53`	`Otixa`	`picks on Lilianna`
`01:02.54`	`Manquiche`	`maybe it would be possible to set a region of the UI in which, should the player click, the camera is reset`
`01:02.59`	`Manquiche`	`and place this region over the portrait?`
`01:03.10`	`Rodrigo`	`1st page there's only retarded people. I just joined a match of platform defense and a allied killed all the team. Then, he realized it was a co-op game.`
`01:03.10`	`Mozared`	`Not a bad idea`
`01:03.15`	`Manquiche`	`so that, practically, clicking the portrait does nothing?`
`01:03.28`	`Mozared`	`I think you're on to something`
`01:03.30`	`HR_`	`im looking for a speed trails effect if anyone knows one let me know... like white lines coming off the unit or something`
`01:03.33`	`Manquiche`	`i cant find any way to set 'Mouse Clicked UI Pos X' though`
`01:03.38`	`Manquiche`	`thats the only thing`
`01:03.41`	`Manquiche`	`its in the description`
`01:03.56`	`Xenrathe`	`HR is the unit standing still?`
`01:04.03`	`Manquiche`	`but double clicking the event only gives the option to set...`
`01:04.09`	`Manquiche`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:04.14`	`Jum-Jum`	`why is nobody working on AI? goddamnit`
`01:04.41`	`Manquiche`	`to make matters worse, i cant even read the whole description`
`01:04.51`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`01:04.57`	`rooj`	`http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7bohq9c471qahhxwo1_250.gif`
`01:04.59`	`Manquiche`	`1280x1024 apparently isnt big enough`
`01:05.01`	`HR_`	`unit is moving fast`
`01:05.06`	`Manquiche`	`resizing the window doesnt do much`
`01:05.33`	`HR_`	`so really a stationary particle effect will get strectched way out`
`01:05.36`	`Mozared`	`Yeah you need to resize it in an odd way`
`01:05.39`	`Mozared`	`I'm trying to look myself`
`01:05.43`	`Mozared`	`what's the action called exactly?`
`01:05.57`	`Manquiche`	`its an event`
`01:06.00`	`Manquiche`	`'Mouse Clicked'`
`01:06.02`	`Manquiche`	`under UI`
`01:06.21`	`Manquiche`	`description from sc2mapster`
`01:06.23`	`Manquiche`	`Only register for this event when you absolutely need it, as it will generate network traffic from all players for every mouse click they make. This event fires when a player clicks a mouse button. Use "Mouse Clicked Button" to get the button that was clicked. Use "Mouse Clicked UI Pos X" and "Mouse Clicked UI Pos Y" to get the UI X,Y position where the player clicked the mouse. Use...`
`01:06.24`	`Manquiche`	`..."Mouse Clicked World Pos X", "Mouse Clicked World Pos Y", and "Mouse Clicked World Pos Z" to get the X,Y,Z world position where the player clicked the mouse. Use "Alt Key Pressed", "Control Key Pressed", and "Shift Key Pressed" to find out what modifier keys were pressed.`
`01:06.38`	`Mozared`	`Oh`
`01:06.43`	`Mozared`	`I bet you need conditions`
`01:06.48`	`Mozared`	`to determine where it was clicked`
`01:07.05`	`Mozared`	`Yup`
`01:07.08`	`WAR`	`I found a way to detect teams`
`01:07.09`	`WAR`	`YAAAAAAAAAY`
`01:07.32`	`Manquiche`	`im practically totally new to triggers`
`01:07.40`	`Manquiche`	`ive no idea how to do that`
`01:07.42`	`Manquiche`	`:P`
`01:07.43`	`Mozared`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:07.47`	`Mozared`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:07.48`	`Otixa`	`VODKA`
`01:07.50`	`Mozared`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:07.54`	`Mozared`	`Those last two are under conditions`
`01:08.02`	`Otixa`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbcwOHvoZbA`
`01:08.02`	`Mozared`	`Your event is "whenever someone clicks his mouse"`
`01:08.03`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Vulfe (45864a45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.134.74.69)`
`01:08.11`	`Mozared`	`and the condition is "the click must have been in region X/Y"`
`01:08.14`	`Manquiche`	`ah`
`01:08.17`	`Manquiche`	`and then the action`
`01:08.24`	`Mozared`	`would just be reset camera`
`01:08.27`	`Manquiche`	`mm`
`01:08.32`	`Mozared`	`but like the description warns though`
`01:08.37`	`Manquiche`	`network traffic`
`01:08.38`	`Mozared`	`that will generate a butload of traffic`
`01:08.39`	`Manquiche`	`indeed`
`01:08.41`	`Mozared`	`as it triggers EVERY click`
`01:08.42`	`Vulfe`	`STARRR FOX`
`01:08.47`	`Mozared`	`should be ok for single player maps`
`01:08.48`	`Vulfe`	`What's the issue Mozared`
`01:08.50`	`Vulfe`	`my terrain buddy`
`01:08.52`	`Mozared`	`anything with 2+ more players`
`01:08.52`	`Vulfe`	`O_O`
`01:08.57`	`Mozared`	`Hey Vulfe`
`01:08.59`	`Mozared`	`my trigger buddy`
`01:09.04`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`01:09.06`	`Mozared`	`Today, nothing really is the issue`
`01:09.07`	`Manquiche`	`i had inteded for the map to be single player, at least until it was 'complete' so to speak`
`01:09.14`	`Mozared`	`Well, apart from gates not being able to close, but I've given up on that`
`01:09.15`	`Vulfe`	`Ahh`
`01:09.17`	`Manquiche`	`but, there may be other workarounds`
`01:09.22`	`Mozared`	`I was trying to help Manquiche with his camera problems`
`01:09.25`	`Vulfe`	`I'm going to work on some physics triggering`
`01:09.28`	`Vulfe`	`see if I can get it to work`
`01:09.30`	`Vulfe`	`wish me luck`
`01:09.30`	`Vulfe`	`:D`
`01:09.32`	`Mozared`	`Good luck`
`01:09.33`	`Manquiche`	`mozared`
`01:09.35`	`Manquiche`	`correct me if im wrong`
`01:09.41`	`Manquiche`	`but the network traffic issue`
`01:10.03`	`Vulfe`	`Aiur small bricks = the coolest tile ever`
`01:10.04`	`Manquiche`	`that is caused by every single click firing that trigger to check for the position?`
`01:10.11`	`Mozared`	`Exactly`
`01:10.15`	`Otixa`	`Aiur shit bricks? ;o`
`01:10.18`	`Mozared`	`Every click you do the game goes`
`01:10.21`	`Manquiche`	`i can see why that would cause lag :P`
`01:10.27`	`Mozared`	`"ooooh, a click! This event starts this trigger at a click!"`
`01:10.38`	`Vulfe`	`You'll end up with a lot of failed conditions`
`01:10.39`	`Vulfe`	`= bad`
`01:10.46`	`Manquiche`	`lol so if someone had say, 300 apm, they'd DC`
`01:10.48`	`Manquiche`	`xD`
`01:10.57`	`Mozared`	`They might not be thrown out immediatly`
`01:11.00`	`Mozared`	`I reckon you'd see FPS lag`
`01:11.02`	`Mozared`	`in single player`
`01:11.10`	`Mozared`	`As you're giving a buttload of additional commands to your processor`
`01:11.21`	`Vulfe`	`Failed conditions still have to be processed`
`01:11.22`	`Vulfe`	`exactly`
`01:11.25`	`Manquiche`	`ok`
`01:11.28`	`Vulfe`	`well, the server time is what matters`
`01:11.28`	`Manquiche`	`so thats a last resort`
`01:11.34`	`Vulfe`	`What do you need to do`
`01:11.36`	`Vulfe`	`Manquiche`
`01:11.43`	`RedWraith`	`Hey guys, how do I give a map one of those space backgrounds?`
`01:11.45`	`*** join/#sc2mapster fgenesis (~fg@p4FDC2A0F.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`01:11.49`	`Mozared`	`He's working out a fix for the 'clicking on portrait resets camera' bug`
`01:11.55`	`Otixa`	`MY WIFE FOR HIRE`
`01:11.58`	`Manquiche`	`im trying to come up with a workaround for the portrait breaking follow thing`
`01:12.05`	`Manquiche`	`a workaround that doesnt require a 'reset button';`
`01:12.23`	`Mozared`	`On another note, how did Helral fix it? Did he even?`
`01:12.30`	`Mozared`	`He's got a random dungeon map with a set following cam, rite?`
`01:12.42`	`Manquiche`	`i dont suppose anyone knows what happens under the hood when the portrait is clicked?`
`01:13.52`	`Vulfe`	`what's so wrong with the portrait?`
`01:13.54`	`Vulfe`	`O_O`
`01:13.59`	`Eiviyn`	`Is b.net EU still messed up?`
`01:14.13`	`Vulfe`	`Oh, Mozared: Is there a good way to make a low stone wall other than placing all the bricks myself`
`01:14.32`	`Mozared`	`Hmmm, good question`
`01:14.36`	`Mozared`	`What kind of tileset?`
`01:14.40`	`Vulfe`	`Aiur`
`01:15.15`	`Vulfe`	`I'm using temple bricks for the time being`
`01:15.16`	`Manquiche`	`hmm`
`01:15.33`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk`
`01:15.34`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk`
`01:15.38`	`Otixa`	`wake up`
`01:15.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`a`
`01:15.42`	`Otixa`	`b`
`01:15.52`	`Otixa`	`Do you know how to add collision meshes to models?`
`01:15.54`	`Komodo`	`you could model on Vulfe`
`01:15.57`	`Vulfe`	`No`
`01:15.58`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mozared_ (525ffb7c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.95.251.124)`
`01:16.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmm`
`01:16.00`	`Vulfe`	`Other suggestions?`
`01:16.01`	`Vulfe`	`:D`
`01:16.01`	`Mozared_`	`EFFING FIREFOX`
`01:16.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`don't you have a mesh named something specific?`
`01:16.10`	`Mozared_`	`Did my message about the temple wall actually come through?`
`01:16.21`	`Vulfe`	`no`
`01:16.21`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, no idea`
`01:16.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmm`
`01:16.27`	`Mozared_`	`There's a 'ruined temple wall'`
`01:16.37`	`Mozared_`	`Might not be what you want, but you could turn the best looking side to where you want it`
`01:16.39`	`Vulfe`	`is that a unit?`
`01:16.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Nesetalis (~demonic@kitsuryuu.ayerie.org)`
`01:16.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'm not sure if sc2 actually supports anything other than a sphere for collision but I haven't tried yet`
`01:16.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`there was a few posts about it early into the m3 thread I think`
`01:16.58`	`Otixa`	`Well, I saw this -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkuIpdq8jJM`
`01:16.59`	`Mozared_`	`No, there's a doodad named something along that lines`
`01:17.04`	`Otixa`	`So it works`
`01:17.09`	`Mozared_`	`Or you can use Bel Shir Cliff Gap Fillers`
`01:17.10`	`Otixa`	`Just need to find out HOW Â¬_Â¬`
`01:17.13`	`Mozared_`	`And place 'm next to eachother`
`01:17.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`ah yes, corbo was testing that for me`
`01:17.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`that's a terrain object iirc`
`01:17.18`	`Mozared_`	`and make 'm smaller`
`01:17.27`	`Otixa`	`oh? ;o`
`01:17.28`	`Mozared_`	`(and raise 'm)`
`01:17.39`	`RedWraith`	`hey guys`
`01:17.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah`
`01:17.55`	`Otixa`	`Hmm`
`01:18.01`	`Otixa`	`imma do some tests then`
`01:18.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`those do not support multiple levels from what we understand so far`
`01:18.21`	`RedWraith`	`is there some way to make a glass floor?`
`01:18.22`	`RedWraith`	`>_>`
`01:18.28`	`Otixa`	`You can use pathing blockers, IskatuMesk`
`01:18.28`	`Vulfe`	`Temple walls not so much`
`01:18.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`01:18.32`	`Vulfe`	`I'll check the gap filler`
`01:18.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`some terrain objects are glass`
`01:18.46`	`Eiviyn`	`RedWraith, terrain objects, terrain tab, right hand side`
`01:18.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`pathing blockers?`
`01:18.49`	`Mozared_`	`Or you can use the archs`
`01:18.53`	`Otixa`	`yup`
`01:18.53`	`Mozared_`	`They're the most versatile doodads ever`
`01:19.00`	`Mozared_`	`Play with Z axis, put 'm halway in the ground...`
`01:19.06`	`Mozared_`	`Or make 'm tiny and use them as a stone 'fence'`
`01:19.08`	`Otixa`	`so units don't suddenly leap 100meters :P`
`01:19.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh`
`01:19.14`	`Eiviyn`	`Alternatively hide terrain using terrain tab and put some glassy looking model over the top`
`01:19.19`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, didn't I unsummon you? :P`
`01:19.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`I meant like walking over and under a bridge at once`
`01:19.27`	`Eiviyn`	`Bought a megaphone`
`01:19.27`	`Otixa`	`ohh`
`01:19.30`	`Mozared_`	`Oh, actually Vulfe`
`01:19.33`	`Vulfe`	`?`
`01:19.36`	`Mozared_`	`Just use 'Temple wall 45'`
`01:19.37`	`Otixa`	`pats Eiviyn`
`01:19.37`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`01:19.43`	`RedWraith`	`I want it to be tiled glass, like the whole map`
`01:19.45`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, I'll look into it`
`01:19.46`	`RedWraith`	`is nothing but glass`
`01:19.47`	`Mozared_`	`There's one variation of it that's not ruined`
`01:19.47`	`RedWraith`	`:O`
`01:19.48`	`Vulfe`	`Those temple walls look bad`
`01:19.49`	`Vulfe`	`on this tileset`
`01:19.50`	`Vulfe`	`:(`
`01:19.56`	`Mozared_`	`You can recolor 'm though`
`01:20.03`	`Vulfe`	`not in a pretty fashion`
`01:20.04`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, have this for the time being: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbcwOHvoZbA`
`01:20.07`	`Vulfe`	`at least not that one`
`01:20.10`	`Vulfe`	`(I tried)`
`01:20.16`	`Mozared_`	`Hmmm`
`01:20.18`	`Mozared_`	`Fair enough`
`01:20.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`lul`
`01:20.28`	`Otixa`	`fires up 3d SM`
`01:20.43`	`Otixa`	`SPANK THEM POLYGONS`
`01:20.46`	`Otixa`	`SPANK EM HARDER`
`01:20.49`	`Otixa`	`OHHH YEAHHH`
`01:20.56`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`01:21.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`I am so far unsuccessful after about 8 hours looking for the last of my sfx assets`
`01:21.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`this irritates me greatly`
`01:21.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster SycoPrime (47303836@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.48.56.54)`
`01:21.49`	`ReckeD`	`is there a text style which simply aligns middle?`
`01:21.56`	`Otixa`	`pats IskatuMesk`
`01:22.02`	`Xenrathe`	`what do you mean 'simply aligns middle'?`
`01:22.07`	`Eiviyn`	`Tried for hours to make a voice like the adjutant, failed miserably`
`01:22.10`	`Vulfe`	`Mozared`
`01:22.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh?`
`01:22.16`	`ReckeD`	`i havent been able to find a text style that aligns middle`
`01:22.18`	`Eiviyn`	`I did create some voice that sounded like I was on meth though`
`01:22.20`	`Manquiche`	`mozared, vulfe, when a portrait is clicked, the camera instantly centres on the unit whose portrait you clicked`
`01:22.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`how are you trying to make the voice?`
`01:22.28`	`Xenrathe`	`ButtonStandard will center justify`
`01:22.33`	`Xenrathe`	`StandardButton rather`
`01:22.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster JamesW05 (~dee_vee_e@c122-108-139-236.mirnd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au)`
`01:22.39`	`Vulfe`	`Is there a way to get multiple doodads to orient themselves according to relative position?`
`01:22.39`	`Mozared_`	`Aye, that's th enormal command`
`01:22.46`	`Manquiche`	`surely the data editor has a value you can change to remove this behaviour?`
`01:22.50`	`Vulfe`	`As in, act as a whole`
`01:22.53`	`ReckeD`	`cheers xenrathe`
`01:22.59`	`Mozared_`	`Not as far as I know off =(`
`01:23.02`	`Vulfe`	`Why would you need to remove it`
`01:23.02`	`Vulfe`	`just take away camera control`
`01:23.03`	`Vulfe`	`: \`
`01:23.03`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, are you NOT on meth? ;P`
`01:23.08`	`Mozared_`	`Missed that in WC3 as well`
`01:23.18`	`Manquiche`	`vulfe what do you mean?`
`01:23.20`	`Mozared_`	`You can't make a doodady building and copy/paste it`
`01:23.26`	`ReckeD`	`Vulfe, why not make a point in the middle and have the units face the point?`
`01:23.26`	`rooj`	`bones otixa`
`01:23.28`	`Vulfe`	`dammit`
`01:23.31`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`01:23.32`	`Eiviyn`	`The only drug I take is copious amounts of caffine`
`01:23.36`	`rooj`	`ew`
`01:23.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`Eiviyn are you having difficulty with the effects or the voice itself`
`01:24.04`	`Eiviyn`	`I have a voice recording`
`01:24.06`	`Eiviyn`	`Some voice altering software`
`01:24.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`what software`
`01:24.13`	`Eiviyn`	`Audacity`
`01:24.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`yuck`
`01:24.19`	`Manquiche`	`mozared, im finding models in the data editor that are clearly portraits, or the artwork for portraits at least, and there are fields that may be able to do something, only i dont know what lol`
`01:24.23`	`Eiviyn`	`Well, it's free :((`
`01:24.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`is your voice recording what you want`
`01:24.33`	`Manquiche`	`and also in the game Ui data type`
`01:24.52`	`Xenrathe`	`Manquiche what exactly are you trying to do?`
`01:24.52`	`Mozared_`	`Lets see...`
`01:24.53`	`Suterusu`	`Anyone has used a dialog Progress Bar that can direct me to the required trigger items to set one up`
`01:24.56`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, show us :D`
`01:24.59`	`Eiviyn`	`Well I have a few lines of tutorial that I'd like spoken like the adjutant`
`01:24.59`	`Otixa`	`smacks rooj`
`01:25.02`	`Xenrathe`	`I have Suterusu`
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`01:25.16`	`Suterusu`	`So far I have creatred it, set to a variable, moved and resized it`
`01:25.24`	`Suterusu`	`Do I need to create a min/max value?`
`01:25.27`	`Xenrathe`	`You need to set min, max, current value`
`01:25.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`the effects are usually like`
`01:25.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`a two minute process`
`01:25.38`	`Eiviyn`	`I would show you if I knew somewhere to upload audio files`
`01:25.53`	`Suterusu`	`ok, thanks`
`01:26.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`mediafire`
`01:26.07`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, dropbox :P`
`01:26.46`	`Eiviyn`	`.wma or .mp3?`
`01:26.52`	`Komodo`	`mp3`
`01:26.53`	`Eiviyn`	`Not doing any other formats`
`01:27.00`	`Eiviyn`	`Can't be bothered with other formats :((`
`01:27.07`	`Vulfe`	`I wish doodad groups existed`
`01:27.08`	`Vulfe`	`but alas`
`01:27.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`mp3`
`01:27.09`	`Vulfe`	`they do not`
`01:27.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`320kbps CBR plz`
`01:27.31`	`Suterusu`	`f that`
`01:27.36`	`Mozared_`	`Manquiche`
`01:27.37`	`Suterusu`	`FLAC it 800kbs :D`
`01:27.40`	`Manquiche`	`yeah`
`01:27.40`	`Mozared_`	`It's definitely somewhere there`
`01:27.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`well`
`01:27.43`	`Komodo`	`Vulfe there are alot of things that could be added to the editor for terrain design :P`
`01:27.46`	`Mozared_`	`If you grab Game UI data`
`01:27.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`I would go flac but sc2 doesn't support it`
`01:27.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`so kind of pointless`
`01:27.52`	`Mozared_`	`and put it to simplified settings`
`01:27.54`	`Mozared_`	`and go to the UI tab`
`01:27.59`	`Mozared_`	`there's literally all sorts of UI stuff`
`01:28.01`	`Mozared_`	`it's bound to be in there`
`01:28.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`you can go ogg in sc2`
`01:28.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`and push it to like 500+ I think`
`01:28.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`but not hugely worth it for protoss voices that get mangled with most effects anyways unless you got a good mic`
`01:28.55`	`SycoPrime`	`Could anyone tell me why "unitLevel = (Experience level of (Triggering unit)) <Integer>" is coming up 0 for a unit that is level 2 or 3?`
`01:29.10`	`Mozared_`	`Just a wild guess`
`01:29.13`	`Suterusu`	`What does Set Dialog Item Edit Value actually do?`
`01:29.13`	`Mozared_`	`But Experience Level`
`01:29.16`	`Mozared_`	`might be the current experience?`
`01:29.19`	`Mozared_`	`As in he's level 2 or 3`
`01:29.22`	`Mozared_`	`But he has 0 experience in that level`
`01:29.26`	`Mozared_`	`aka experience level comes up 0`
`01:29.54`	`SycoPrime`	`Possibly, but the tooltip for the exp bar typically says something like 55/250 or whatever.`
`01:30.02`	`Manquiche`	`mozared, simplified as in disable the leftmost button on the right hand panel? so you see tabs?`
`01:30.24`	`Mozared_`	`That's what I did, then I figured tables might be handier anyway`
`01:30.26`	`Mozared_`	`still searching now`
`01:30.35`	`Mozared_`	`and, then it's probably not that Syco`
`01:30.42`	`Mozared_`	`Maybe your triggering unit is refering to something else?`
`01:31.07`	`SycoPrime`	`Is there a problem with setting the value in the event declaration?`
`01:31.21`	`Manquiche`	`i see plenty of interesting values but nothing that seems to be related to the UI portraits`
`01:31.22`	`Manquiche`	`which is strange`
`01:31.29`	`Mozared_`	`Err`
`01:31.29`	`SycoPrime`	`I have it set to "Unit Dies", description says "Triggering unit" is the one that's dying.`
`01:31.38`	`Mozared_`	`Hmmm`
`01:31.41`	`Mozared_`	`That sounds like it should work`
`01:31.45`	`Mozared_`	`but turn it into 'dying unit'`
`01:31.47`	`Mozared_`	`just to be safe`
`01:31.50`	`SycoPrime`	`Manquiche: Portrait is set in actor. What are you trying to do?`
`01:31.54`	`Mozared_`	`triggering unit might be the unit that killed your dying unit`
`01:32.04`	`SycoPrime`	`Mozared: I'll try setting the var in the actions, instead of initially.`
`01:32.10`	`Mozared_`	`He's trying to remove the option to 'follow' a unit`
`01:32.13`	`Mozared_`	`By clicking on it's portrait`
`01:32.17`	`Vulfe`	`WHY DOESNT HEIGHT COPY/PASTE`
`01:32.19`	`Vulfe`	`RAAAAGE`
`01:32.20`	`Mozared_`	`so you can't break out of camera locks with that bug`
`01:32.23`	`Manquiche`	`sycoprime, trying to remove or disable the camera pan when clicking on a unit portrait`
`01:32.36`	`SycoPrime`	`Vulfe: Because blizzard hates you, just a little bit.`
`01:32.46`	`Vulfe`	`blizzard hates me a lot`
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`01:33.07`	`SycoPrime`	`Manquiche: Could you put an empty or transparent dialog over the portrait so that they click that instead?`
`01:33.15`	`SycoPrime`	`It's not pretty, but...`
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`01:33.39`	`Manquiche`	`thats an idea`
`01:33.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`sure u could block it syco`
`01:33.50`	`Resinate`	`who here is way good with local varibles?`
`01:33.51`	`Blacksoldier`	`WHAAAA i could whine this freaky meta spell just dont want to work!!!!!!`
`01:33.52`	`Mozared_`	`It can probably be pretty tbh`
`01:34.05`	`Mozared_`	`If you make it 100% transparency`
`01:34.20`	`Mozared_`	`And Resinate, you could try Vulfe`
`01:34.20`	`Manquiche`	`so long as clicking within the dialog does nothing to affect unit selection or anythig like that`
`01:34.24`	`Mozared_`	`He tends to know his trigger stuff`
`01:34.25`	`Vulfe`	`WHAT`
`01:34.26`	`Manquiche`	`which im sure can be modified`
`01:34.27`	`Resinate`	`is he here?`
`01:34.27`	`Vulfe`	`ME!?!?!?`
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`01:34.33`	`Mozared_`	`He's going nuts over doodads atm tho`
`01:34.36`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`01:34.41`	`Vulfe`	`I terrain in my spare time`
`01:34.42`	`Vulfe`	`true story`
`01:34.44`	`Vulfe`	`anyway`
`01:34.47`	`Vulfe`	`what do you need`
`01:34.47`	`Resinate`	`vulfe`
`01:34.53`	`Resinate`	`i need help debug this bug`
`01:34.55`	`Resinate`	`pm me`
`01:34.56`	`Mozared_`	`In fact, if you want to be sure Manquiche, you could set clicking on the dialog to reset the camera =')`
`01:34.59`	`Resinate`	`so i can paste u the codes`
`01:35.03`	`Manquiche`	`aha`
`01:35.07`	`Manquiche`	`perfect! :P`
`01:35.11`	`Vulfe`	`Okay Resinate`
`01:35.12`	`Vulfe`	`sure`
`01:35.16`	`Vulfe`	`HIT ME`
`01:35.18`	`Manquiche`	`every portrait has the same dimensions right?`
`01:35.19`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
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`01:35.35`	`Manquiche`	`im going to try that`
`01:35.44`	`Mozared_`	`I think they do`
`01:35.56`	`Manquiche`	`now i just need to figure out how to/look up a tutorial on making a dialog`
`01:35.57`	`Resinate`	`?`
`01:36.04`	`Manquiche`	`:P`
`01:36.07`	`Resinate`	`i don think i can pm ppl on this tool`
`01:36.10`	`Manquiche`	`ty for the help, ill let you know how i get on`
`01:36.16`	`Resinate`	`ok ill paste it here then`
`01:36.27`	`SycoPrime`	`Resinate: Pastebin`
`01:36.29`	`SycoPrime`	`Chrissake.`
`01:36.39`	`Eiviyn`	`IskatuMesk, I don't have the sound files recorded yet. I do have a failed out-take from my map's demo video though if you want to mess with that, either out of boredom or I don't know :((`
`01:36.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`sure`
`01:37.09`	`Eiviyn`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11113892/What.mp3`
`01:37.13`	`Blacksoldier`	`Anyone here who can help me fixing this freaked up spell plese? otherwise i think im going to jump out of my window soon oO`
`01:37.35`	`SycoPrime`	`Blacksoldier: Please to describing where it is going wrong.`
`01:37.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`this is a decent recording, there is a few pops from speaking directly into the mic too closely`
`01:37.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`you want to avoid that, they can be a bitch to edit out if it's possible at all`
`01:38.17`	`RedWraith`	`ugh`
`01:38.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`otherwise your mic quality is good which is good`
`01:38.21`	`RedWraith`	`my minimap`
`01:38.24`	`RedWraith`	`is rendering my probes`
`01:38.26`	`RedWraith`	`ahead of my other units`
`01:38.27`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah the real thing doesn't have any pops`
`01:38.28`	`RedWraith`	`:(`
`01:38.34`	`Eiviyn`	`There are clicks and some static still`
`01:38.41`	`RedWraith`	`Is there any way to give some particular units higher render priorities than others?`
`01:38.43`	`Eiviyn`	`I tried editing the static out but it really ruined the quality`
`01:38.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`static is easy to remove`
`01:38.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`you don't have much`
`01:38.58`	`Eiviyn`	`Audacity failed at the static part`
`01:39.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`I can make you a quick video tutorial if camtasia wants to work`
`01:39.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`I use Audition`
`01:39.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`not sure how audacity's sound removal works`
`01:39.31`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, I lol'd`
`01:39.32`	`Blacksoldier`	`ok i want to upgrade a pylon to another building by a metamorph sell... i setup a spell with same specification as the warpgate-> gateway spell.... but as i wanted to give the pylon this spell i couldnt give him an ability command. in testing the map the pylon doesnt even have a button for it!`
`01:39.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`but the basic concept is to grab a sound profile from a portion of audio just containing background sound`
`01:39.38`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`01:39.40`	`Blacksoldier`	`*spell`
`01:39.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`then apply a profile containing that to the entire sound at 100% strength`
`01:40.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`if you have a lot of background sound this will distort the audio a bit, but shouldn't that much for your audio`
`01:40.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`let'see what I can do with it...`
`01:40.15`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn rants at teh audience`
`01:40.26`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, you're perfect for ModCraft :D`
`01:40.33`	`Manquiche`	`can anyone point me in the direction of a tutorial or such like on creating dialog boxes?`
`01:40.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`rant = +1 attraction points`
`01:40.52`	`Otixa`	`"And if you're not using normal maps in your SC2 models - WELL FUCK YOU! GO DIE!"`
`01:40.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`:D`
`01:40.59`	`Komodo`	`lol`
`01:40.59`	`Otixa`	`Good thing the channel is rated mature :P`
`01:41.05`	`Eiviyn`	`Why the hate :((`
`01:41.16`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`01:41.17`	`Otixa`	`Wut haet? :D`
`01:41.22`	`Otixa`	`pats Eiviyn`
`01:41.23`	`Vulfe`	`So`
`01:41.30`	`Otixa`	`Get a segment ready for the 18th`
`01:41.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`nice, no distortion from sound removal`
`01:41.41`	`Vulfe`	`Is the best way to do projectile physics (in 2D) by using custom values and periodic timer?`
`01:41.47`	`Vulfe`	`Or has someone found a better way`
`01:41.53`	`UltiDrgn`	`Oh Mesk`
`01:41.53`	`Otixa`	`You get to rant at 200-300 people live :D`
`01:41.56`	`Eiviyn`	`What program are you using for that IskatuMesk?`
`01:41.59`	`UltiDrgn`	`Stop exporting 100k meshes`
`01:42.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`there's a little bit of static still`
`01:42.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`01:42.10`	`UltiDrgn`	`There's your problem right there`
`01:42.13`	`UltiDrgn`	`It's above 20k`
`01:42.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'm using adobe audition 1.5`
`01:42.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`well the jugg worked fine :)`
`01:42.26`	`Eiviyn`	`goes off to check if it's free`
`01:42.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`the geometry mesh did not`
`01:42.28`	`UltiDrgn`	`After 13 hours`
`01:42.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's not`
`01:42.31`	`Otixa`	`goes back to testing per-polygon collision in SC2`
`01:42.37`	`Eiviyn`	`I thought to myself`
`01:42.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`the jugg only took 3 hours`
`01:42.45`	`Eiviyn`	`With how much time I've spent on this sc2 map`
`01:42.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`and then 11-16 minutes after that`
`01:42.56`	`Eiviyn`	`I could've probably earnt $5,000 from overtime`
`01:43.00`	`UltiDrgn`	`which is 3 hours more than something thats 20k`
`01:43.06`	`UltiDrgn`	`+ you dont have any anims`
`01:43.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`01:43.11`	`UltiDrgn`	`You add anims to that`
`01:43.12`	`UltiDrgn`	`Boom`
`01:43.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah`
`01:43.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`well, I'm not too worried about an animated model taking a long time to render`
`01:43.39`	`UltiDrgn`	`You would think it wouldn't take long`
`01:43.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`but really a no-animation static mesh of the geometry that is not that much higher poly shouldn't take THAT much longer`
`01:43.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`not unless there is some other issue I am not aware of`
`01:43.58`	`UltiDrgn`	`The moment you add an animation, it's constant time export`
`01:44.06`	`UltiDrgn`	`So those 3 hours would return`
`01:44.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`playing with materials definitely screws with the time`
`01:44.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah`
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`01:44.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`well, I'm prepared for that`
`01:44.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`when the time comes I'll probably just remodel the whole thing`
`01:44.37`	`Rodrigo`	`HAHAHAHAHAAHHA`
`01:44.38`	`Blacksoldier`	`:'-(`
`01:44.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`and bring it down to 20-30k like the purgatory`
`01:44.40`	`UltiDrgn`	`>_< You shouldn't need that high poly of a model ingame anyways`
`01:44.44`	`Rodrigo`	`http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/13437/`
`01:44.51`	`Rodrigo`	`everyone is posting how to boost a map`
`01:44.56`	`Rodrigo`	`because blizzard deleted the first post`
`01:44.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`well it was more of a test bed really`
`01:45.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`it doesn't need to be 100k`
`01:45.01`	`Rodrigo`	`now everyone is posting hahahahahahah`
`01:45.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's an old ass model`
`01:45.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`that someone else did a high poly edit on`
`01:45.17`	`UltiDrgn`	`@Rod, way to copy paste the thread on Sc2mapster`
`01:45.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`the only model I have that is close to 100k and is semi-new is the Gahennas Battlecruiser`
`01:45.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`which is far higher detail than that is`
`01:45.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`and can be baked into normals`
`01:46.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`I wanted to see how sc2 handled a 100k unit though`
`01:46.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`it handles it surprisingly well`
`01:46.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`but most semi-new engines will`
`01:47.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`anyways the unit is like, going to be as big as the screen if not bigger, and that's from a TPS and not an RTS`
`01:47.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`not something the players can build or whatnot`
`01:47.16`	`UltiDrgn`	`Still`
`01:47.22`	`UltiDrgn`	`Keep in mind with a moving camera`
`01:47.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`the geometry on the other hand`
`01:47.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`is the entire map`
`01:47.29`	`UltiDrgn`	`you're basically adding a lagfest zone`
`01:47.39`	`UltiDrgn`	`Oh let me just look over... OHMYGOD`
`01:47.43`	`UltiDrgn`	`5 minutes later`
`01:47.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`well I had over 40 of those in a map`
`01:47.47`	`Rodrigo`	`HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA`
`01:47.48`	`UltiDrgn`	`Still loading..`
`01:47.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`and they caused minimal fps loss`
`01:47.52`	`Rodrigo`	`that WAS AWESOME: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/13437/`
`01:47.58`	`UltiDrgn`	`Right, but that's from an overhead view`
`01:47.58`	`Rodrigo`	`everyone is posting the same tutorial`
`01:48.01`	`Rodrigo`	`hahahahhahahahahahaha`
`01:48.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`01:48.15`	`Rodrigo`	`that was just beautiful`
`01:48.17`	`Komodo`	`now IskatuMesk, put 10 units of that model and see how sc2 runs`
`01:48.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`terrain geometry causes more an fps loss than doodads/units from what I've tested so far`
`01:48.22`	`Rodrigo`	`now I want to see blizzard delete everyone`
`01:48.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`I did`
`01:48.27`	`Komodo`	`nevermind`
`01:48.34`	`Rodrigo`	`everyone is posting, so blizzard cannot ban everyone`
`01:48.35`	`Komodo`	`i just seen that uou put 40`
`01:48.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`geometry instancing`
`01:48.46`	`Mozared_`	`You can set a unit's property while it's pauzed, right?`
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`01:49.01`	`Blacksoldier`	`sycoprime: I did ;-)`
`01:49.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`sc2 performs pretty nicely with big, complex meshes`
`01:49.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`the pathfinding on the other hand is pretty cpu intensive with a fair number of units`
`01:49.16`	`Komodo`	`IskatuMesk can i see the model ?`
`01:49.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://a.imageshack.us/img28/7186/screenshot2010090221274.jpg`
`01:50.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes there's still some backfacing issues`
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`01:50.29`	`Mozared_`	`Holy battlecruiser batman lasers balony`
`01:50.41`	`Mozared_`	`evil battlecruiser is evil`
`01:50.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Does that thing have working attachment points?`
`01:51.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`01:51.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`I don't know enough about the data editor to rig its armaments correctly yet though`
`01:51.42`	`Eiviyn`	`By name as far as I know, you filter attachment points by their name`
`01:51.44`	`SycoPrime`	`Blacksoldier: I'm really not sure what you're trying to do, but to get a pylon to become a different structure like the warp gate does, you'll need to duplicate the ability, then you need to add the duplicate ability to the pylon. Then, to make it show up on its command card so the player can call that ability, you need to edit the command card and add a new button.`
`01:51.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`side weapons are triple gatling cannons, central weapon (where yamato would be ) is a very large series of rotating barrels`
`01:52.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`it has two belly-mounted heat ray guns`
`01:52.03`	`SycoPrime`	`Take a look at the command card for the Gateway if you want to know what the button should do.`
`01:52.04`	`Eiviyn`	`So just calling something like, "weapon_frog" or "weapon_back" should work?`
`01:52.10`	`SycoPrime`	`IskatuMesk: Nice ship.`
`01:52.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`well I know how to get weapons to fire from this point`
`01:52.31`	`Komodo`	`yep that is one hell of a battlecruser`
`01:52.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's actually making the weapons themselves`
`01:52.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`now remember`
`01:52.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`that's an old model`
`01:52.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`it doesn't make very good use of those polies`
`01:52.56`	`Eiviyn`	`You mean getting the turrets to rotate or just making the weapons in the editor, or entirely new models?`
`01:53.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`making the weapons in the editor`
`01:53.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://a.imageshack.us/img5/7955/purgt8.jpg`
`01:53.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`this here is a newer model`
`01:53.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`and is only about 30k tris`
`01:54.02`	`Komodo`	`it should look nice when it textured`
`01:54.09`	`Eiviyn`	`How big is the file you imported for that?`
`01:54.25`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, srsly. Highpoly, lowpoly, bake`
`01:54.38`	`Otixa`	`Not "wannabe highpoly", no lowpoly, no bake`
`01:54.42`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`01:54.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`:D`
`01:54.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`well the purg is pretty low poly`
`01:55.00`	`SycoPrime`	`"Bake"?`
`01:55.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`01:55.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`unfortunately there is not a huge amount of stuff I can bake on the Purgatory`
`01:55.24`	`Otixa`	`...`
`01:55.26`	`Otixa`	`;/`
`01:55.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`the Gahennas BC I can probably bake about 50% of its polies into a normal map very easily`
`01:55.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`since they are all greeble`
`01:55.48`	`Eiviyn`	`Would someone mind doing me a favour. Just try publishing a map on EU right now. I've been waiting for 3 hours and it still won't publish properly. I want to know if it's me or b.net. Thanks!`
`01:56.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://a.imageshack.us/img805/3903/76781386.jpg`
`01:56.03`	`Otixa`	`You can reduce the purgatory to like 30k polys`
`01:56.08`	`Otixa`	`Without losng much detail`
`01:56.09`	`Otixa`	`Easy`
`01:56.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`it is 30k`
`01:56.15`	`Mozared_`	`Do paused Ghosts actually lose energy?`
`01:56.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`that's what I said :p`
`01:56.29`	`Otixa`	`Well, you can cut it in half, at least`
`01:56.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`the Gahennas BC actually has less polies than the Juggernaut did before I started rebuilding parts of it`
`01:56.56`	`Eiviyn`	`Mozared_, easy way to find out`
`01:56.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`most of its polies are the greeble, which you can bake for ingame pretty safely`
`01:57.00`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Anyone available to help me do a quick test of my new map?`
`01:57.04`	`ZarafFaraz`	`on US Bnet`
`01:57.10`	`Mozared_`	`I figured someone would know around here`
`01:57.11`	`Eiviyn`	`Make a ghost, cloak it, have a trigger pause it 10 seconds in`
`01:57.21`	`eRjkMn`	`hey`
`01:57.22`	`Eiviyn`	`Well as far as I know, pause pauses everything, including weapon cooldown`
`01:57.26`	`eRjkMn`	`does anyone know about a random function?`
`01:57.28`	`Mozared_`	`I'm gonna assume it does`
`01:57.32`	`Mozared_`	`if it doesn't, I guess I'll find out`
`01:57.33`	`Eiviyn`	`The only thing it doesn't stop is animations`
`01:57.35`	`ZarafFaraz`	`random for what, eR?`
`01:57.37`	`eRjkMn`	`like`
`01:57.42`	`Suterusu`	`80km long? lol`
`01:57.43`	`eRjkMn`	`jump to a random location`
`01:57.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`01:57.48`	`ZarafFaraz`	`sure`
`01:57.48`	`Suterusu`	`this is the emo boat`
`01:57.50`	`eRjkMn`	`i can use switch to determine where`
`01:57.51`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Random point in region`
`01:57.58`	`eRjkMn`	`no i wanna set the points`
`01:58.03`	`eRjkMn`	`like point 1, 2, 3 etc`
`01:58.05`	`ZarafFaraz`	`you don't have to set points`
`01:58.07`	`ZarafFaraz`	`oh`
`01:58.10`	`eRjkMn`	`but i waant to randomize between 1, 2, 3`
`01:58.11`	`ZarafFaraz`	`well then you can make an array`
`01:58.19`	`ZarafFaraz`	`and set the points into the array`
`01:58.31`	`eRjkMn`	`and then?`
`01:58.35`	`ZarafFaraz`	`and just have "PointArray[Random integer between 1 and 3]"`
`01:58.40`	`Suterusu`	`random int 0-array max`
`01:58.41`	`eRjkMn`	`yea`
`01:58.46`	`eRjkMn`	`how do i do the random int between`
`01:58.49`	`eRjkMn`	`1 and 3`
`01:58.54`	`Suterusu`	`it's a function`
`01:58.55`	`eRjkMn`	`i haven't seen the random function`
`01:58.58`	`eRjkMn`	`it is?`
`01:58.59`	`Suterusu`	`when you go to put in an int`
`01:59.00`	`ZarafFaraz`	`yeah`
`01:59.03`	`eRjkMn`	`no wai!`
`01:59.05`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Random Integer`
`01:59.06`	`Suterusu`	`YAWAI`
`01:59.09`	`Suterusu`	`YAMADAI`
`01:59.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`Eiviyn > this is using my basic UD reverb and protoss would probably be a bit less intense, + this has no extra back echo or flange which you might want for a Protoss character. Anyways, this is like 30 seconds of work. www.gameproc.com/meskstuff/What_b.mp3`
`01:59.32`	`eRjkMn`	`oh it is in there!`
`01:59.36`	`eRjkMn`	`nice! thanks man`
`01:59.38`	`Eiviyn`	`hah that's pretty cool`
`01:59.47`	`ZarafFaraz`	`np`
`02:00.02`	`Otixa`	`highfives IskatuMesk`
`02:00.04`	`Otixa`	`Also`
`02:00.12`	`Otixa`	`You lied about the terrain objects >:[`
`02:00.15`	`Otixa`	`It doesn't work!`
`02:00.17`	`Otixa`	`roars`
`02:00.23`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah I could imagine some extra echoes there would do wonders`
`02:00.29`	`UltiDrgn`	`In other news`
`02:00.30`	`ZarafFaraz`	`anyone able to come on US Bnet to help me do a quick test please?`
`02:00.32`	`Eiviyn`	`But that sounds really awesome for 30 seconds of editing`
`02:00.35`	`UltiDrgn`	`Blizzard bans half the forums`
`02:00.41`	`UltiDrgn`	`And nothing of value was lost`
`02:00.53`	`Eiviyn`	`Well people are just being stupid`
`02:00.54`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, would also be awesome if Eiviyn could say more than 2 words without pausing for 2sec :P`
`02:01.01`	`Eiviyn`	`Blizzard knows the popularity system sucks`
`02:01.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`you can cut out pauses`
`02:01.29`	`Eiviyn`	`Well it wasn't really meant to be for anything serious :((`
`02:01.32`	`Triceron`	`Wahoo!`
`02:01.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`what are you trying to do with the terrain objects?`
`02:01.34`	`Otixa`	`Anyway`
`02:01.35`	`Triceron`	`time to test anims`
`02:01.38`	`Otixa`	`Per polygon collison`
`02:01.40`	`Otixa`	`HOW?!`
`02:01.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`all I said about them was you can't make multi-level areas with them`
`02:01.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Impossible surely`
`02:01.49`	`Otixa`	`Tell me, you scurvy dogs!`
`02:01.50`	`Otixa`	`>:[`
`02:01.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`I dunno if that's even possible :\`
`02:02.01`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, no. I saw it on youtube Â¬_Â¬`
`02:02.05`	`Eiviyn`	`Link!`
`02:02.11`	`Eiviyn`	`One idea I had was`
`02:02.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`basically the terran object is a mesh you use to "mask" terrain or whatnot`
`02:02.20`	`Eiviyn`	`Making a unit, say, something simple, I dunno, mutalisk?`
`02:02.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`Corbo had a link to a related thread`
`02:02.27`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, you can hax it with terrain height and hiding terrain cells`
`02:02.31`	`Eiviyn`	`Then attaching an invisible unit to all it's attachment points`
`02:02.39`	`Triceron`	`oh you guys trying to make multi-level passes?`
`02:02.42`	`Triceron`	`bridges etc?`
`02:02.52`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkuIpdq8jJM`
`02:02.52`	`Eiviyn`	`Then that'd really fine tune collision detection for proj... this isn't what you meant is it`
`02:03.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`Well my eventual idea was to make a massive multi-level castle/cathedral kind of thing`
`02:03.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`but the easiest way to show the concept is to have a bridge with units above and below it at once`
`02:03.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`the terrain meshes support stuff like ramps and such but not multi-level complexes`
`02:03.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`so for example`
`02:03.38`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, you can fake it with triggers, I guess ;/`
`02:03.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`that huge terrain mesh I posted a screenshot of`
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`02:03.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`you can take the walkways from that model and use them for the terrain model`
`02:03.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`and turn the rest into doodads`
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`02:03.59`	`TheLaughingMan`	`~seen Bifuu`
`02:04.09`	`purl`	`bifuu <~Bifuu@cpe-071-077-145-012.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 11h 22m 11s ago, saying: 'i win'.`
`02:04.09`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`02:04.09`	`Vulfe`	`shoots himself`
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`02:04.16`	`Otixa`	`I just need to figure out how the collision in the video is done :/`
`02:04.18`	`goomba_`	`goomba_`
`02:04.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`ask corbo`
`02:04.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`or check that thread he linked`
`02:04.28`	`Eiviyn`	`how do you know he isn't just using hundreds of regions with associated modify unit height triggers?`
`02:04.32`	`Otixa`	`I would if he was here Â¬_Â¬`
`02:04.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`because I've been talking with him about it for a while`
`02:04.57`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, it's called "mesh collision test", so I'm guessing it's some editor hax`
`02:05.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/893-data-terrain-bridges-a-terrain-objects-and-footprints/`
`02:05.05`	`Eiviyn`	`Maybe he lies!`
`02:05.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`well if I could get the damn mesh to export he'd probably have it ingame and working by now`
`02:05.40`	`Otixa`	`...`
`02:05.45`	`Otixa`	`motherfuckers!`
`02:05.50`	`Otixa`	`jumps into the editor`
`02:05.54`	`Jum-Jum`	`how do I force a playable area for one group of players?`
`02:06.20`	`Otixa`	`Actually`
`02:06.28`	`Otixa`	`I'd need to re-export models to test`
`02:06.29`	`Otixa`	`Â¬_Â¬`
`02:06.32`	`Otixa`	`bookmarks for later`
`02:06.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`I suppose what I could do is just cut the mesh apart, or rather use all the base component meshes I already have, and export them piece by piece`
`02:06.38`	`Otixa`	`Lazy Otixa is lazy and Otixa`
`02:06.43`	`Triceron`	`hey where is model scaling? It used to be part of the actor, but I can't find it now`
`02:06.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`and see if I can get them to export in more reasonable times`
`02:06.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`in the model editor`
`02:06.54`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, is Model`
`02:06.55`	`Otixa`	`;p`
`02:06.56`	`Fropper`	`anyone knows a way to run sc2 twice on the same computer?`
`02:06.59`	`Triceron`	`its model now?`
`02:06.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`there is scale values right below where you set the m3`
`02:07.00`	`Lajla`	`When I paste som terrain, it gets higher than the oroginal terrain I selected, how do I work around this?`
`02:07.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`the actor should have a scale value too`
`02:07.09`	`Triceron`	`I see scale min and scale maximum`
`02:07.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah.`
`02:07.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`that's it`
`02:07.18`	`Triceron`	`but that's randomization isn't it?`
`02:07.19`	`Lajla`	`Maybe just lowering the terain I paste on first`
`02:07.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`set them both the same #`
`02:07.28`	`Triceron`	`hm, okay`
`02:07.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`brb COFFEE COFFEE COFFEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!`
`02:07.32`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, you need to attach all the objects into 1 object`
`02:07.40`	`Otixa`	`It exports faster that way`
`02:07.42`	`Otixa`	`Not sure why`
`02:07.48`	`Komodo`	`hey Fropper http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/7705-misc-2-starcraft-2-editors-open-at-same-time/`
`02:08.29`	`Fropper`	`thanks but i am looking for a way to open tha actual game twice :D`
`02:08.57`	`Eiviyn`	`How are you going to log in to 2 games at once?`
`02:09.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`well I mean`
`02:09.10`	`Eiviyn`	`I can't even stay logged into the damn editor and game at once, let alone multiple of each`
`02:09.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`I was going to export multiple m3's`
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`02:10.08`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, normal maps, goddamnit`
`02:10.10`	`Otixa`	`And alpha`
`02:10.15`	`Fropper`	`24h d/c ~~~`
`02:10.15`	`Xenrathe`	`Fropper you can run sc2 twice using sandboxie...`
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`02:10.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`wut`
`02:10.21`	`Otixa`	`Don't make me do a damn paintover >:[`
`02:10.28`	`Vulfe`	`Anyone else want help with triggers`
`02:10.30`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`02:10.35`	`Xenrathe`	`Mebbe Vulfe`
`02:10.36`	`Mozared_`	`Vulfe`
`02:10.37`	`Xenrathe`	`What are you doing?`
`02:10.39`	`Mozared_`	`How do you close a door?`
`02:10.42`	`Komodo1138`	`you can run anything twice with sandboxie :P`
`02:10.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`I haven't UV'd the geometry yet lol`
`02:10.43`	`Vulfe`	`D:`
`02:10.46`	`Mozared_`	`I kind of gave up on it`
`02:10.47`	`Fropper`	`I want to login with my brothers account so np logging in twice :P`
`02:10.50`	`Vulfe`	`Mozared_: A door unit?`
`02:10.51`	`Mozared_`	`But if you know how to do it, feel free`
`02:10.55`	`Otixa`	`sighs and opens PS`
`02:10.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`it has no real texturing or anything yet`
`02:10.58`	`Eiviyn`	`Why is my publish stuck on 0%... why... :((`
`02:11.09`	`Mozared_`	`a DestructibleGateStraightVertical unit`
`02:11.11`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, Blizz hate you :>`
`02:11.15`	`Fropper`	`i downloaded virtualbox if this doesn't work i'll try sandboxie`
`02:11.21`	`Mozared_`	`There's only an 'open' order`
`02:11.22`	`Vulfe`	`Mozared: AFAIK, doors have an ability that allows them to open/close; to get a trigger to open/close a door, you'll have to order them to use the ability`
`02:11.26`	`Vulfe`	`it's a morph ability`
`02:11.35`	`Komodo1138`	`Blizz hates everyone`
`02:11.35`	`Vulfe`	`so it changes it into a different kind of unit`
`02:11.36`	`Mozared_`	`Which means... what?`
`02:11.41`	`Mozared_`	`ahh ok`
`02:11.44`	`Vulfe`	`It changes from an open door to a closed one`
`02:11.46`	`Vulfe`	`and vice versa`
`02:11.52`	`Vulfe`	`when it uses the ability`
`02:11.52`	`Mozared`	`But my problem is`
`02:12.01`	`Mozared`	`There isn't a 'close' order`
`02:12.07`	`Mozared`	`there's a gazillion open ones, but no close ones`
`02:12.12`	`Vulfe`	`Hmm`
`02:12.14`	`Mozared`	`Should I just use 'open' order on an open door`
`02:12.16`	`Mozared`	`to make it close?`
`02:12.20`	`Vulfe`	`Wel`
`02:12.21`	`Vulfe`	`l`
`02:12.26`	`Xenrathe`	`Just make a close order if you need to`
`02:12.28`	`Komodo1138`	`I really should upload this and see what blizzard does https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10684624/texttest.jpg`
`02:12.28`	`Vulfe`	`an Open door should have a Close ability`
`02:12.36`	`Mozared`	`I thought it should, but it don't =P`
`02:12.41`	`Mozared`	`I actually went into the campaign special map`
`02:12.46`	`Mozared`	`Blizz does it by issueing "no order"`
`02:12.47`	`Vulfe`	`hmm`
`02:12.49`	`Triceron`	`yeaaah booyyeeee! Tyrant has animations :D`
`02:12.49`	`Mozared`	`something I can't write up`
`02:12.50`	`Mozared`	`Nor copy`
`02:12.55`	`Mozared`	`since my editor freaks when I attempt the latter`
`02:12.56`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`02:12.56`	`Triceron`	`where's onetwo when you need him`
`02:13.01`	`Vulfe`	`Well`
`02:13.01`	`Vulfe`	`I'll check`
`02:13.04`	`Eiviyn`	`...`
`02:13.07`	`Vulfe`	`If there isn't a close door ability`
`02:13.08`	`RedWraith`	`ugh, how do I get the minimap icons of one unit to go over anothers always? :(`
`02:13.13`	`Eiviyn`	`I can upload a previous version of my map`
`02:13.13`	`Eiviyn`	`But not the current version`
`02:13.14`	`Eiviyn`	`Eh`
`02:13.14`	`Vulfe`	`it's because the game link is hidden/broken`
`02:13.16`	`RedWraith`	`I want a minimap rendering priority, damnit!`
`02:13.26`	`Vulfe`	`so you should still be able to make a new ability, Mozared`
`02:13.32`	`Mozared`	`But`
`02:13.35`	`Mozared`	`That's data editing`
`02:13.35`	`Komodo1138`	`try changing the map name Eiviyn`
`02:14.01`	`Eiviyn`	`I'm on the 779th backup file of the same map`
`02:14.07`	`Eiviyn`	`I'm not going to change the name now`
`02:14.10`	`Komodo1138`	`damn`
`02:14.14`	`Eiviyn`	`ps 777th was awesome`
`02:14.39`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`02:14.40`	`Vulfe`	`Hmm`
`02:14.48`	`Vulfe`	`I've wanted to try this for a while...`
`02:14.54`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/Untitled-5.jpg`
`02:14.55`	`Vulfe`	`and it seems you're right`
`02:14.58`	`Vulfe`	`they're missing open abilities`
`02:14.59`	`Otixa`	`Just an example`
`02:14.59`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`02:15.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh`
`02:15.16`	`Otixa`	`The spikes are flat planes`
`02:15.23`	`Otixa`	`Normal map + alpha + possibly height map`
`02:15.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`if you tried to alpha those spikes on that big of a unit it would look like of ugly`
`02:15.29`	`Xenrathe`	`Xel'naga temple door unit has an open and a close`
`02:15.29`	`Otixa`	`And yyou won't be able to tell the difference`
`02:15.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`on the new model though`
`02:15.54`	`Vulfe`	`That's weird as fuck`
`02:15.55`	`Vulfe`	`Mozared`
`02:15.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`I got rid of that symbol thing on the head`
`02:15.58`	`Vulfe`	`Look at this...`
`02:16.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`and will probably normal the rest of that area`
`02:16.14`	`Vulfe`	`"FieldMetalGateStraightVerticalLowered (MetalGateStraightVerticalLowered (Unnamed)) CUnit_CardLayouts +():((GateClose)):((AbilCmd)):((##parent##StraightVertical,Execute)):(()):(()):(()):(()):((0)):((0)):((2)):((3)) "`
`02:16.16`	`Vulfe`	`Sorry`
`02:16.20`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, also, for the highpoly you need turbosmooth`
`02:16.22`	`Vulfe`	`but it shows the GateClose on the command card`
`02:16.24`	`Vulfe`	`but if you open it`
`02:16.27`	`Vulfe`	`there's nothing there`
`02:16.27`	`Vulfe`	`wtf`
`02:16.28`	`Otixa`	`And for that you need supporting edges`
`02:16.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah`
`02:16.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'm not experienced in modeling for turbosmooth yet`
`02:16.47`	`Vulfe`	`That's`
`02:16.48`	`Vulfe`	`F'd up`
`02:16.48`	`Vulfe`	`:O`
`02:16.54`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Blacksoldier (4fddd43b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.221.212.59)`
`02:17.03`	`Komodo1138`	`Turbosmooth = SubD right ?`
`02:17.10`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, watch teh show :P`
`02:17.13`	`Otixa`	`Komodo1138, yes`
`02:17.24`	`Komodo1138`	`ok. i am not big into max so i was just making sure`
`02:17.48`	`Xenrathe`	`Vulfe there is a command...`
`02:17.56`	`Xenrathe`	`there's just no button icon and no ability command`
`02:18.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mozared (525ffb7c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.95.251.124)`
`02:18.10`	`Lilianna`	`its turbosmooth the closest shave you can get with a blade!`
`02:18.16`	`Lilianna`	`or laser?`
`02:18.17`	`Komodo1138`	`lol`
`02:18.17`	`Lilianna`	`whatever`
`02:18.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`lul`
`02:18.23`	`Otixa`	`lawl`
`02:18.28`	`Otixa`	`pats Lilianna`
`02:18.45`	`Lilianna`	`Disclaimer: Not intended for Pubic hair removal`
`02:18.55`	`Otixa`	`XD`
`02:19.00`	`Vulfe`	`Xenrathe: That's what I mean`
`02:19.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`with the purgatory I went around fixing all of the edge flow`
`02:19.03`	`Vulfe`	`it doesn't make any sense`
`02:19.10`	`Otixa`	`highfives Lilianna`
`02:19.10`	`Xenrathe`	`shrug Makes sense to me`
`02:19.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`and then once it's UV'd I will split it apart for smoothing groups`
`02:19.19`	`Lilianna`	`high fives and falls over`
`02:19.19`	`Xenrathe`	`The name of the command is actually taken from the button`
`02:19.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`not as good as a turbosmoothed normal map but`
`02:19.26`	`Xenrathe`	`they didn't give it a button`
`02:19.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`it will look decent for what I'm after`
`02:19.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`which is a very, very big unit`
`02:19.44`	`Vulfe`	`A command has to have a default button though`
`02:19.45`	`Vulfe`	`afaik`
`02:19.48`	`Xenrathe`	`If you want to implement it (if the editor won't allow you to use a button-less command) just give it a button and you'll be good`
`02:19.51`	`Vulfe`	`Unless the framework is there...`
`02:19.52`	`Vulfe`	`let me check`
`02:19.53`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/artist-tavern/9662-article-modelling-and-exporting-for-star-craft2/`
`02:19.59`	`Otixa`	`All you need to know is there`
`02:20.07`	`Otixa`	`And a lot of stuff you don't need to know aswell ;p`
`02:20.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah I've read that`
`02:20.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`well most of it`
`02:20.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`you updated it it seems`
`02:20.28`	`Vulfe`	`Yeah`
`02:20.29`	`Vulfe`	`Xenrathe`
`02:20.31`	`Vulfe`	`You're correct`
`02:20.33`	`Vulfe`	`High five`
`02:20.36`	`Otixa`	`Yeh, added some new actions and some more stuff`
`02:20.40`	`Xenrathe`	`Go team~`
`02:20.49`	`Vulfe`	`MOZARED: Give the closed gate ability a default button`
`02:20.52`	`Vulfe`	`and you'll be good`
`02:20.58`	`Vulfe`	`the command that is`
`02:20.59`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`02:21.09`	`Otixa`	`turbosmooths Lilianna's head`
`02:21.10`	`Vulfe`	`I guess the Open Gate`
`02:21.10`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`02:21.12`	`Vulfe`	`but you get the idea`
`02:21.16`	`Lilianna`	`D:`
`02:21.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`:D`
`02:21.23`	`Lilianna`	`Now I's bald. ;.;`
`02:21.30`	`Otixa`	`You look like that one from Dune 2000!`
`02:21.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`but so smooth`
`02:21.50`	`Otixa`	`http://www.technodynamic.com/dunescreen1.jpg`
`02:21.59`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`02:22.01`	`Triceron`	`lol`
`02:22.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Eiviyn (586f9717@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.111.151.23)`
`02:22.10`	`Lilianna`	`D:`
`02:22.17`	`Lilianna`	`I do not have a ginormous forehead bone`
`02:22.22`	`Otixa`	`I used to love Dune <_<`
`02:22.23`	`HR_`	`so, trigger Player - Player Any Player leaves the game with Any doesnt trigger when someone leaves the game?`
`02:22.31`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, don't make me get da hammer!`
`02:22.38`	`HR_`	`is there any way to trigger when someone leaves`
`02:22.39`	`Eiviyn`	`Have you seen that new Dune game, Firefall?`
`02:22.42`	`Lilianna`	`I dont know anything about dune other then my parents read the books`
`02:22.55`	`Otixa`	`New... Dune? ...`
`02:22.56`	`Otixa`	`:o`
`02:22.59`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah`
`02:23.07`	`Triceron`	`He who controls the spice, controls the world!`
`02:23.09`	`Eiviyn`	`I refuse to acknowledge it's anything but a new Dune game`
`02:23.10`	`Otixa`	`LINK NOW`
`02:23.10`	`SycoPrime`	`Does anyone know what would prevent "Ability Command" from populating? If the ability has buttons set in its commands array....`
`02:23.13`	`Otixa`	`OR PAY WITH YOUR LIFE`
`02:23.24`	`HR_`	`do i just need to check every player on a timer to see if they left?`
`02:23.26`	`Eiviyn`	`stands defiant`
`02:23.28`	`Komodo1138`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-CdQmxH96M`
`02:23.31`	`Triceron`	`'new dune'?`
`02:23.41`	`Otixa`	`jabs Eiviyn with the blunt side of his scythe`
`02:23.51`	`Eiviyn`	`lays defiantly`
`02:23.56`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`02:23.58`	`Otixa`	`Bad minion!`
`02:24.05`	`Otixa`	`ooh... shiny...`
`02:24.08`	`HR_`	`what would i check, playercontrol==none or playerstatus==leftthegame ?`
`02:24.11`	`Otixa`	`gazes at the youtube clip`
`02:24.28`	`Otixa`	`How is this Dune? :\|`
`02:24.40`	`Eiviyn`	`It has sand`
`02:24.40`	`Eiviyn`	`Bugs`
`02:24.44`	`Otixa`	`And why does it have half lambert shading?`
`02:24.45`	`Komodo1138`	`thats what i am thinking`
`02:24.45`	`Eiviyn`	`And a huge drill called a thumper`
`02:24.48`	`Eiviyn`	`What more do you want`
`02:25.05`	`Otixa`	`Otixa no liek half lambert >:\|`
`02:25.06`	`UltiDrgn`	`Communism`
`02:25.20`	`Triceron`	`that's dune?`
`02:25.37`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, no, Eiviyn lied ._.`
`02:25.39`	`Eiviyn`	`Not in copyright :((`
`02:25.45`	`Triceron`	`I want the weirding way`
`02:25.48`	`Otixa`	`sulks`
`02:26.17`	`Komodo1138`	`its more of a Dune Rip off`
`02:26.30`	`Triceron`	`'inspired by'`
`02:26.32`	`Otixa`	`The voice acting there is awesome`
`02:26.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`christ window 7's search is horrible`
`02:26.43`	`Otixa`	`Like the girl that says "Thumper blahblah"`
`02:26.51`	`Otixa`	`It's like they woke her up in the middle of the night`
`02:26.55`	`Triceron`	`reminds me more of Halflife 2`
`02:26.59`	`Otixa`	`And she was liek MMMMHHHH FINEEEEEE`
`02:27.03`	`Mozared`	`48 hours work on a map and going... pfooh`
`02:27.05`	`Otixa`	`And does the lines half asleep`
`02:27.06`	`Triceron`	`with the antlions`
`02:27.46`	`Otixa`	`And the gameplay makes me sad`
`02:28.10`	`SycoPrime`	`Does anyone know what would prevent "Ability Command" from populating? If the ability has buttons set in its commands array....`
`02:28.41`	`Eiviyn`	`I'm at a loss as to why my map suddenly won't publish`
`02:28.46`	`Lilianna`	`is it in the command card too?`
`02:28.46`	`Otixa`	`Looks more like Borderlands than anything else`
`02:28.57`	`Eiviyn`	`All I did was change some camera values, add some doodads and set all player properties to default`
`02:28.59`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, karma! >:\|`
`02:28.59`	`HR_`	`there is also UI - Player Any Player selected Quit Button on the Game Menu Dialog`
`02:29.27`	`Manquiche`	`mozared, vulfe, dialog box worked`
`02:29.36`	`HR_`	`does anyone know the right way to trigger when a player leaves?`
`02:29.39`	`Mozared`	`Nice, nice!`
`02:29.43`	`Mozared`	`Should probably post that on the forums`
`02:29.44`	`Vulfe`	`cool`
`02:29.47`	`Vulfe`	`What dialog box`
`02:29.48`	`Manquiche`	`yeah :) ty for the help`
`02:29.48`	`Vulfe`	`What did I do`
`02:29.50`	`Otixa`	`goes to sit next to Lilianna instead`
`02:29.51`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`02:29.51`	`Otixa`	`Â¬_Â¬`
`02:29.58`	`Eiviyn`	`Check every 5 seconds or so if the player is still ingame, HR_`
`02:30.03`	`Otixa`	`The Dune was a lie! :<`
`02:30.25`	`SycoPrime`	`The ability shows up in the command card. The ability command does not show up for the ability.`
`02:30.38`	`Manquiche`	`created a dialog box, placed it over the portrait, created a button within the box, same size, set transparency to 100% and set the button click to 'reset' the camera`
`02:30.44`	`Manquiche`	`works perfectly`
`02:31.01`	`Manquiche`	`only 'unwanted' behaviour is the sound of a button being clicked`
`02:31.25`	`LordAbyss`	`enters the chat in a blaze of demonic flames!`
`02:31.30`	`Lilianna`	`o_o`
`02:31.38`	`Otixa`	`drains LordAbyss' soul`
`02:31.51`	`LordAbyss`	`doesn't have a soul, or heart.`
`02:31.58`	`Otixa`	`>:[`
`02:32.03`	`Otixa`	`punches LordAbyss instead`
`02:32.04`	`Otixa`	`Ha!`
`02:32.14`	`Eiviyn`	`Should ban American accents from games, that Firefall demo is just ruined by them`
`02:32.30`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, I'm still mad at you for that Â¬_Â¬`
`02:32.36`	`Otixa`	`swings scythe`
`02:32.44`	`LordAbyss`	`touches hes wrecked face and proceeds to reconstruct it in the face of Otixa's face. Then he smashes his face to pieces.`
`02:32.45`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Terin (~Terin@dhcp-vlan3242-193-224-235.wireless.uic.edu)`
`02:33.02`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`02:33.21`	`Triceron`	`I need video editing software -_-`
`02:33.30`	`Triceron`	`stupid 320 mb fraps file`
`02:33.35`	`LordAbyss`	`VEGAS!`
`02:33.35`	`Otixa`	`Get AfterEffects!`
`02:33.35`	`SycoPrime`	`VirtualMod`
`02:33.38`	`Triceron`	`nm`
`02:33.42`	`Triceron`	`I need a crack for vegas`
`02:33.48`	`LordAbyss`	`i can help you there`
`02:33.49`	`Triceron`	`stupid registries`
`02:33.53`	`UltiDrgn`	`^ Slightly illegal`
`02:33.55`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, I did the sc2mapster intro video in AfterEffects ;]`
`02:33.57`	`Otixa`	`hinthint`
`02:34.09`	`LordAbyss`	`im gonna be using your intro video now otixa`
`02:34.10`	`Triceron`	`I could use after effects too`
`02:34.10`	`LordAbyss`	`i like it`
`02:34.14`	`Triceron`	`i haven't used that program in ages tho`
`02:34.17`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`02:34.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`I need to learn after effects`
`02:34.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`but too much to do`
`02:34.30`	`Otixa`	`Song of the now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKbefGtPg1w`
`02:34.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`so no time`
`02:34.55`	`Jum-Jum`	`IskatuMesk: www.videocopilot.com`
`02:34.57`	`Jum-Jum`	`is a good start`
`02:35.03`	`Otixa`	`ye`
`02:35.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah, I've got it bookmarkeds`
`02:35.24`	`Manquiche`	`anyone know how to remove the default sound played when a dialog button is clicked using triggers?`
`02:35.49`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Blacksoldier (4fddd43b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.221.212.59)`
`02:36.22`	`Manquiche`	`someone mentioned after effects`
`02:36.28`	`Manquiche`	`im an ae maestro :)`
`02:36.35`	`Otixa`	`lol, no`
`02:36.38`	`Otixa`	`Proof`
`02:36.50`	`Manquiche`	`proof schmoof`
`02:36.57`	`Manquiche`	`its all up here points to grey matter`
`02:37.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`Otixa do you know much about Afterburn? The 3ds max plugin, that is`
`02:37.16`	`Otixa`	`stabs Manquiche with his scythe`
`02:37.29`	`Manquiche`	`not nice`
`02:37.30`	`Eiviyn`	`New Dune game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWnhteDN98Y`
`02:37.31`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, I know wnough about it to know not to use it :D`
`02:37.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`02:37.42`	`Otixa`	`Â¬_Â¬`
`02:37.46`	`Eiviyn`	`!!`
`02:37.46`	`Otixa`	`jabs Eiviyn`
`02:37.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`I need to make a big disc of animated fire in max`
`02:37.53`	`Komodo1138`	`lol nice one Eiviyn`
`02:37.58`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, use Particle Array`
`02:38.04`	`SycoPrime`	`Stop linking that. It's not the new dune gane.`
`02:38.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`well, I got the particles working like I want`
`02:38.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`but not the burny`
`02:38.13`	`SycoPrime`	`game*. It's a borderlands sequel.`
`02:38.16`	`Eiviyn`	`They're different games`
`02:38.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`I was trying to use afterburn buuut not so much success`
`02:38.26`	`Otixa`	`jabs Eiviyn harder`
`02:38.27`	`Eiviyn`	`One is Firefall, the other is Halo classic :((`
`02:38.28`	`SycoPrime`	`Ah. Sorry`
`02:38.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`lolol halo`
`02:38.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`modding that game was funny`
`02:38.58`	`Otixa`	`She's only doing it to annoy me >:\|`
`02:39.19`	`SycoPrime`	`Seems like a good enough reason to do anything to me.`
`02:39.28`	`Otixa`	`;P`
`02:39.41`	`Manquiche`	`how can i remove/disable the sound of a diablog button being clicked?`
`02:39.47`	`Manquiche`	`diablog lol`
`02:39.49`	`Manquiche`	`dialog*`
`02:40.31`	`Otixa`	`Time to watch Rubicon! :D`
`02:40.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`btw Eiviyn if/when you make the real lines for whatever protoss you need and if you can't get the effects working like you want just pm me or pester me on here or something`
`02:41.02`	`Eiviyn`	`Sure, thanks`
`02:41.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`since effects are pretty easy for me to do I can make a bunch of takes on them and you can see if they are suitable`
`02:41.14`	`Eiviyn`	`It's only like 6 lines and those are only about 10-12 words each`
`02:41.19`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, try not to giggle and cough during the recording ;p`
`02:41.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`no, giggling is good`
`02:41.40`	`Otixa`	`picks on Eiviyn`
`02:41.54`	`Eiviyn`	`Why the hate`
`02:41.57`	`Vulfe`	`Is OneTwo here?`
`02:42.10`	`Otixa`	`Because the Dune was a lie! >:[`
`02:42.18`	`Otixa`	`First the cake...`
`02:42.20`	`Eiviyn`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsji466zCW0 New Dune game?!!`
`02:42.21`	`Lilianna`	`The Dune blew away in the wind`
`02:42.23`	`Otixa`	`...now the Dune...`
`02:42.33`	`Otixa`	`WHAT IS THIS WORLD BECOMING?!`
`02:42.40`	`Otixa`	`HOW CAN WE LIVE WITH SUCH LIES?!`
`02:43.01`	`Otixa`	`Also, the link made me lol :D`
`02:43.01`	`WAR`	`New Dune Game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUaKxFjlOpw`
`02:43.04`	`WAR`	`Stop being retarded guys`
`02:43.07`	`Komodo1138`	`wow look at those graphics. sc2 has nothing on that`
`02:43.44`	`Otixa`	`Notice how they're using the SC1 cusror :D`
`02:43.51`	`SycoPrime`	`Could be worse. She could be mentioning the Firefly game.`
`02:44.34`	`Otixa`	`Anyway`
`02:44.37`	`Otixa`	`Back to Rubicon`
`02:44.38`	`Vulfe`	`HI`
`02:44.38`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`02:44.43`	`Vulfe`	`Does anyone want help`
`02:44.45`	`Vulfe`	`with universal things`
`02:44.47`	`Otixa`	`no :D`
`02:44.51`	`Vulfe`	`ouch`
`02:44.53`	`WAR`	`nope!`
`02:44.53`	`WAR`	`:D`
`02:44.57`	`Otixa`	`xD`
`02:45.00`	`Otixa`	`highfives WAR`
`02:45.16`	`Manquiche`	`vulfe`
`02:45.27`	`SycoPrime`	`I wouldn't mind someone helping figure out how to make the changeling ability togglable.`
`02:45.28`	`Manquiche`	`how can i remove/mute the sound of a dialog button being clicked :)`
`02:45.40`	`Vulfe`	`Manquiche`
`02:45.41`	`Vulfe`	`Uhhhhh`
`02:45.43`	`Vulfe`	`UHHHH`
`02:45.46`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`02:45.47`	`Vulfe`	`I have no idea!`
`02:45.49`	`WAR`	`highfives back`
`02:45.53`	`Vulfe`	`Too UI-related for me`
`02:45.53`	`Vulfe`	`:D`
`02:46.01`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`02:46.03`	`Manquiche`	`ah well`
`02:46.12`	`Otixa`	`Also`
`02:46.13`	`Xenrathe`	`find the sound that it plays and delete it!`
`02:46.16`	`Manquiche`	`its a minor annoyance but an annoyance nonetheless`
`02:46.17`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, don't you sleep? ;p`
`02:46.18`	`Vulfe`	`in other words, either it's not possible or it's too esoteric for me`
`02:46.19`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`02:46.20`	`WAR`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8&feature=related`
`02:46.21`	`WAR`	`LOL`
`02:46.27`	`Manquiche`	`xenrathe, i dont think thats a good idea`
`02:46.27`	`Eiviyn`	`Sometimes`
`02:46.30`	`Manquiche`	`ty tho`
`02:46.36`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`02:46.37`	`Xenrathe`	`Why not?`
`02:46.41`	`Otixa`	`Bed is bad`
`02:46.42`	`Otixa`	`k`
`02:46.51`	`Xenrathe`	`By delete it, I mean lower its volume to 0%`
`02:46.53`	`Komodo1138`	`you sleep enough when you are dead`
`02:47.16`	`Manquiche`	`i dont know which sound it is lol`
`02:47.24`	`Xenrathe`	`What dialog button is being clicked?`
`02:47.24`	`Komodo1138`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRVNVjFny-w&NR=1`
`02:47.29`	`Manquiche`	`erm`
`02:47.31`	`Vulfe`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRVNVjFny-w&NR=1`
`02:47.32`	`Xenrathe`	`that you want to remove?`
`02:47.34`	`Vulfe`	`DAMMIT`
`02:47.36`	`Vulfe`	`KOMODO`
`02:47.37`	`Vulfe`	`FFF`
`02:47.41`	`Komodo1138`	`lol`
`02:47.42`	`Manquiche`	`its just a normal dialog button`
`02:47.44`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`02:47.53`	`Xenrathe`	`That you created? It starts with a sound?`
`02:47.57`	`Manquiche`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:48.12`	`Xenrathe`	`:*`
`02:48.13`	`Manquiche`	`one of those`
`02:48.15`	`Manquiche`	`:)`
`02:48.27`	`Xenrathe`	`Mine didn't have sounds... I had to put them in...`
`02:48.28`	`Manquiche`	`when the button is clicked it makes a little CLICK sound`
`02:48.42`	`Komodo1138`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvPZ07tMF5M`
`02:48.57`	`Manquiche`	`its the same sound as the buttons in the options menu`
`02:49.01`	`Manquiche`	`gameplay, sound etc`
`02:49.32`	`Eiviyn`	`I wonder`
`02:49.44`	`Eiviyn`	`I spent ages making a video description for my map`
`02:49.47`	`Xenrathe`	`UI_ActionButtonSelect?`
`02:49.55`	`Xenrathe`	`That sound?`
`02:49.56`	`Eiviyn`	`I wonder if uploading it to youtube invalidates the "Do not publish" thing`
`02:50.05`	`Manquiche`	`probably`
`02:50.07`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`02:50.08`	`Otixa`	`It shouldn't`
`02:50.19`	`Otixa`	`Because you're not showing the map`
`02:50.21`	`Otixa`	`rite?`
`02:50.30`	`Otixa`	`Also, describe "video description"`
`02:50.43`	`Manquiche`	`xenrathe, do you think i could add an action to my trigger to mute that specific sound for X duration or something?`
`02:50.44`	`Eiviyn`	`~5min long video describing my map`
`02:51.00`	`Xenrathe`	`No idea`
`02:51.07`	`Xenrathe`	`Well yes I do, but why would you want to?`
`02:51.12`	`Xenrathe`	`Sound feedback for button pressing is good`
`02:51.13`	`Otixa`	`shrugs`
`02:51.17`	`Otixa`	`Upload anyway`
`02:51.18`	`Vulfe`	`Where is the flying height of a unit in the data`
`02:51.19`	`Vulfe`	`O_O`
`02:51.20`	`Otixa`	`And link us`
`02:51.25`	`Manquiche`	`because its not a button that is supposed to be seen or heard :P`
`02:51.25`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Adam__ (ad142b38@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.20.43.56)`
`02:51.30`	`Otixa`	`turns to other screen`
`02:51.34`	`Xenrathe`	`o`
`02:51.40`	`Manquiche`	`im using the button as a workaround for the portrait camera reset thing`
`02:51.50`	`Blacksoldier`	`blizzard seems to hate german for given them shitty editors`
`02:51.53`	`Xenrathe`	`I swear that my dialog buttons didnt have sounds until I put them in`
`02:51.56`	`Manquiche`	`its working perfectly, except for the sound it plays`
`02:52.04`	`Manquiche`	`well maybe im unlucky, because mine does xD`
`02:52.09`	`Vulfe`	`TELL ME`
`02:52.11`	`Vulfe`	`WHERE`
`02:52.12`	`Blacksoldier`	`i go sleeping`
`02:52.14`	`Vulfe`	`IS THE FLY HEIGHT`
`02:52.15`	`Vulfe`	`O_O`
`02:52.19`	`Xenrathe`	`isn't there a mute sounds button?`
`02:52.23`	`Blacksoldier`	`maybe tommorow it will work`
`02:52.27`	`Xenrathe`	`you might also try a catalog field value set`
`02:52.34`	`Xenrathe`	`on that sound entry`
`02:52.43`	`Xenrathe`	`though I make no promises that it'll take`
`02:52.48`	`Trunk`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/10696-item-level-requirement/`
`02:52.59`	`Trunk`	`has someone a solution for that..? :/`
`02:53.00`	`Manquiche`	`a catalog what who waht?`
`02:53.02`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`02:53.04`	`Manquiche`	`im a newb`
`02:53.27`	`Xenrathe`	`Catalog Field Value Set is a trigger action that lets you change values in the data editor`
`02:53.58`	`Manquiche`	`hmm`
`02:54.03`	`Manquiche`	`i dont think i need to touch the data editor`
`02:54.18`	`Manquiche`	`at a push i could set an action to mute UI sounds for 1 second or something`
`02:54.26`	`Manquiche`	`maybe`
`02:54.27`	`Manquiche`	`ill see`
`02:54.29`	`Manquiche`	`ty though`
`02:54.30`	`Xenrathe`	`I was going to say`
`02:54.36`	`Xenrathe`	`just mute sound channel UI`
`02:54.49`	`Xenrathe`	`hard to do BEFORE you click the dialog button though`
`02:54.54`	`Manquiche`	`lol indeed`
`02:54.56`	`Xenrathe`	`gotta use the player mind read action for that one`
`02:55.02`	`Xenrathe`	`(my custom function)`
`02:55.06`	`Manquiche`	`rofl`
`02:55.16`	`Eiviyn`	`Umm, or just triggers`
`02:55.29`	`Manquiche`	`i prefer the 'predict player finger pressure on mouse key' fucntion myself`
`02:55.31`	`Eiviyn`	`Maybe even a validator on your item behaviours`
`02:55.38`	`Xenrathe`	`If you mute it as soon as the button is clicked, I think you'll mostly stop the sound`
`02:55.39`	`Komodo1138`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=astISOttCQ0 <--- the best song in the world :P`
`02:55.40`	`Eiviyn`	`So it gets removed if the hero is below a certain level`
`02:55.53`	`WAR`	`Everytime my editor crashes, I watch this video. I become happy again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8&feature=related`
`02:55.55`	`Eiviyn`	`That'd allow you to equip the item still though, just provide zero benefit`
`02:56.09`	`Manquiche`	`i shall try`
`02:56.51`	`Huesy`	`That gummy bear song reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtJ1rW9hSqc`
`02:56.56`	`Xenrathe`	`I wish that I could steal the time of all the really bad mapmakers`
`02:56.57`	`Eiviyn`	`Every time I see the Surprised Kitty video, I think of this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MfCuIPXOx0 and want to murder something`
`02:57.10`	`Xenrathe`	`and use it for my own mapmaking`
`02:57.17`	`Komodo1138`	`thats a good song Huesy`
`02:57.37`	`Triceron`	`Surprised kitty is awesome!`
`02:57.49`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, that's so fucking gay Â¬_Â¬`
`02:57.51`	`Twiner`	`people have relaly boring lives`
`02:57.53`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@173-25-23-86.client.mchsi.com)`
`02:57.53`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ`
`02:57.57`	`Twiner`	`theres suprised kitty`
`02:57.59`	`Twiner`	`which is cute`
`02:58.03`	`Twiner`	`and then there are a ton of people who copy it`
`02:58.09`	`Twiner`	`which is stupid`
`02:59.12`	`Trunk`	`so, add a validator`
`02:59.15`	`Triceron`	`wow I never seen that video with sound`
`02:59.17`	`Trunk`	`to the item?`
`02:59.22`	`Triceron`	`the sound makes it so gay`
`02:59.23`	`Komodo1138`	`ok now after listening to this one everyone will go kill themselfs :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK_LN3XEcnw&ob=av3e`
`02:59.31`	`Twiner`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI&feature=related this is much more awesome`
`02:59.32`	`Huesy`	`That kitty girl's eyes are huge`
`02:59.37`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Terin (~Terin@dhcp-vlan3242-193-224-235.wireless.uic.edu)`
`02:59.38`	`Huesy`	`Like, scary huge`
`02:59.42`	`Trunk`	`Eiviyn?`
`02:59.55`	`Komodo1138`	`ya but look at the size of her Tits :P`
`03:00.16`	`Huesy`	`She's just huge all round...`
`03:00.25`	`Komodo1138`	`lol`
`03:01.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`is anyone aware of any way to swap textures on a model- http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4844/bluetrees.jpg - what i want is blue leaves but brown trunk now as u can see i can make this happen but since i have 6 different tree types with an verage of 6-8 tree models with 6 textures and 4 colors of trees its gonna eat like 1.2mb to pull this off any thoughts on a better way?`
`03:01.35`	`Eiviyn`	`Trunk, Unit Compare Veterancy Level`
`03:01.39`	`ReckeD`	`wth does Syndicate mean in this context - Please note that your project will not syndicate until your project comes out of experimental status.`
`03:01.51`	`Eiviyn`	`Set "Compare" to "Less than"`
`03:01.58`	`Eiviyn`	`Set value to whatever hero level`
`03:02.02`	`Eiviyn`	`Then you're done`
`03:02.07`	`Eiviyn`	`Go to your item's behaviour modification`
`03:02.19`	`Trunk`	`its a unit right?`
`03:02.29`	`Trunk`	`where i find behavior modification`
`03:02.33`	`Eiviyn`	`Wha, no, this is a va`
`03:02.36`	`Eiviyn`	`Right`
`03:02.38`	`Eiviyn`	`You have your hero`
`03:02.45`	`Eiviyn`	`He has a veterancy hero level ability`
`03:02.49`	`Trunk`	`sure sure`
`03:02.49`	`Eiviyn`	`You have your item`
`03:02.59`	`Eiviyn`	`And a behaviour linked to that item to apply the stats`
`03:03.06`	`Eiviyn`	`Open the Validator tab`
`03:03.12`	`Eiviyn`	`And Add Object`
`03:03.13`	`Huesy`	`Seriously, scary huge. http://www.ahughes.net/banter/e3e29898c6d569ecc29515dc709c3e02.png`
`03:03.24`	`Trunk`	`alright thanks`
`03:03.26`	`Trunk`	`and then`
`03:03.29`	`WAR`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/10503-map-makers-need-achievements/#p15`
`03:03.30`	`WAR`	`ROFL`
`03:03.30`	`Trunk`	`you can still equip it`
`03:03.31`	`Komodo1138`	`lol`
`03:03.31`	`Trunk`	`but`
`03:03.31`	`Triceron`	`there's no real texture swap option unless your models can somehow share the same textures`
`03:03.38`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah, you can`
`03:03.38`	`Triceron`	`actually`
`03:03.39`	`Trunk`	`no stats etc`
`03:03.40`	`WAR`	`HAHAHAHHA`
`03:03.44`	`Eiviyn`	`I don't know how to stop you equipping it`
`03:03.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`well there is a trigger Triceron but idk what this is for`
`03:03.59`	`Eiviyn`	`Oh`
`03:04.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`or if it just doenst work`
`03:04.04`	`Eiviyn`	`Maybe try a Requirement`
`03:04.10`	`Triceron`	`Rodofnod, you should be fine cuz I think there's only like... 2 textures between all 7 models`
`03:04.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`i wish it were so`
`03:04.20`	`Trunk`	`how to do it with a requirement..?`
`03:04.20`	`Triceron`	`they source treeA and treeB`
`03:04.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`every tree has a different texture`
`03:04.26`	`Eiviyn`	`I'm not sure`
`03:04.27`	`Eiviyn`	`But`
`03:04.29`	`Eiviyn`	`Maybe`
`03:04.31`	`Triceron`	`you shure?`
`03:04.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`every tree type`
`03:04.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes`
`03:04.34`	`Eiviyn`	`This is kinda complicated`
`03:04.39`	`Eiviyn`	`Make an upgrade`
`03:04.39`	`RodOfNOD`	`belshir all same texture`
`03:04.41`	`Triceron`	`oh you want ALL tree types?`
`03:04.44`	`Triceron`	`not just the belshir?`
`03:04.45`	`Eiviyn`	`And give it as many levels as your hero has levels`
`03:04.45`	`WAR`	`Rodrigo_`
`03:04.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`iwant like 6`
`03:04.50`	`WAR`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/10503-map-makers-need-achievements/#p15`
`03:04.51`	`WAR`	`ROFL`
`03:04.58`	`Triceron`	`there's only like 2 belshir tree textures tho`
`03:05.03`	`Eiviyn`	`Then make a requirement for the item... I'm not even sure this will work`
`03:05.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`agreed`
`03:05.06`	`Triceron`	`not counting normal map`
`03:05.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`but i want other trees`
`03:05.11`	`Otixa`	`sets Triceron on fire`
`03:05.12`	`Triceron`	`ahh`
`03:05.13`	`Eiviyn`	`That depends on the upgrade's level`
`03:05.13`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`03:05.18`	`Trunk`	`sure`
`03:05.19`	`Trunk`	`but`
`03:05.22`	`Eiviyn`	`Then a trigger that modifies the upgrade as you level`
`03:05.29`	`Eiviyn`	`But I'm honestly not sure if that will even work`
`03:05.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster thenk (~nk@203-59-26-116.perm.iinet.net.au)`
`03:05.30`	`Triceron`	`stop abusing me! :(`
`03:05.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`btw Triceron what do u think of this? http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/5489/goomba.jpg`
`03:05.44`	`Trunk`	`will you be able to pick it up?`
`03:05.47`	`Otixa`	`burns Triceron more :D`
`03:05.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Not sure`
`03:05.58`	`Eiviyn`	`Not really sure what the requirement field on the item is even for`
`03:06.03`	`Triceron`	`spontaneously bursts`
`03:06.07`	`Eiviyn`	`Might be to allow you to purchase the item`
`03:06.09`	`ZarafFaraz`	`hey guys, would you play a third person shooter that uses the Right click as "dash/running"? So you have to hold down the right click to run?`
`03:06.10`	`Triceron`	`haha that's cool`
`03:06.16`	`Triceron`	`looks like a bunker but not`
`03:06.16`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Hjalte (~chatzilla@cpe.ge-0-2-0-835.arcnqu2.customer.tele.dk)`
`03:06.16`	`Eiviyn`	`Infact it probably is`
`03:06.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`goomba made that today`
`03:06.17`	`Trunk`	`yeah i think so..`
`03:06.20`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah just stick with the validator`
`03:06.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`exactly`
`03:06.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`the goal`
`03:06.25`	`Trunk`	`alright`
`03:06.30`	`Otixa`	`burns Eiviyn`
`03:06.30`	`Trunk`	`thanks for your help :))`
`03:06.35`	`Triceron`	`looks like a giant button`
`03:06.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`i hope its terran enough for otixa`
`03:06.40`	`Triceron`	`I want to press it`
`03:06.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`yea`
`03:06.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`its my campfires`
`03:06.46`	`Eiviyn`	`It's not perfect but short of a complicated trigger mess I can't think how to do it`
`03:07.16`	`Otixa`	`burns RodOfNOD`
`03:07.26`	`Lilianna`	`RodOfNOD, Its a bloated bunker!`
`03:07.29`	`RodOfNOD`	`uses water to cool down`
`03:07.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes its about to explode`
`03:07.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`basically its a way for the decal to show what clan will own that bunker`
`03:07.52`	`Otixa`	`burns Lilianna`
`03:07.57`	`WAR`	`ITS A BUNKER`
`03:07.58`	`WAR`	`LOL`
`03:08.04`	`Lilianna`	`Too many marines in that bunker`
`03:08.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`no its a country spawn`
`03:08.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`that looks like a bunker`
`03:08.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`too many bunkers in that marine?`
`03:09.00`	`Trunk`	`there is a way to reffer to the different item containers your unit has`
`03:09.04`	`Eiviyn`	`is bored, and has spent the past 4 hours uploading the same map over and over, or at least trying to`
`03:09.08`	`Trunk`	`like number 1, 2`
`03:09.16`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, watch Rubicon`
`03:09.16`	`RodOfNOD`	`having connection issues Eiviyn?`
`03:09.24`	`Trunk`	`but wich one is numer 1, wich one number 2?!`
`03:09.27`	`Eiviyn`	`Nah found my problem`
`03:09.37`	`Eiviyn`	`I'd set some field in the player properties to something, which completely broke my map`
`03:09.51`	`Eiviyn`	`Just went back a version and it was fine`
`03:09.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`sounds painful`
`03:11.00`	`thenk`	`Trunk, perhaps pick all units in unit group, unit group matching conditions, in bunker?`
`03:11.13`	`thenk`	`then use 'picked player' as your integer`
`03:11.22`	`thenk`	`er, picked unit`
`03:11.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`ok`
`03:11.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have spent`
`03:11.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`10 hours`
`03:11.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`in futility`
`03:11.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`time to just download the game and get the sounds that way`
`03:11.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`before I waste the entire day`
`03:11.44`	`*** part/#sc2mapster PM\|HoN (~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net)`
`03:11.45`	`Trunk`	`what do you mean with "in bunker"?`
`03:11.58`	`RodOfNOD`	`Triceron what is the file size of the leaves?`
`03:12.01`	`thenk`	`use a unit filter to return the units in your bunker`
`03:12.17`	`Eiviyn`	`Can I just take a moment to rage about how stupid it is that the game lobby and the game itself are completely disconnected`
`03:12.20`	`thenk`	`then it would return the units in order from 1 onwards`
`03:12.24`	`Eiviyn`	`You are player 1 in the lobby`
`03:12.25`	`Eiviyn`	`BUT`
`03:12.29`	`Eiviyn`	`You could be player 4 in the game`
`03:12.31`	`thenk`	`Eiviyn, i know.`
`03:12.34`	`thenk`	`i agree.`
`03:12.39`	`Triceron`	`I don't have the leaves yet`
`03:12.43`	`Eiviyn`	`I have spent the last, what, 3 days trying to get a working lobby`
`03:12.48`	`thenk`	`that, and, the normal bnet hosted lobby just DOES NOT WORK`
`03:12.50`	`Trunk`	`i got a solution :)`
`03:12.55`	`Trunk`	`so that player 21`
`03:12.57`	`Trunk`	`1*`
`03:12.58`	`thenk`	`you can't lock anything.. except i have seen the DotA clone works`
`03:12.58`	`Triceron`	`should be tiny tho`
`03:13.00`	`Triceron`	`it's just planes`
`03:13.04`	`Trunk`	`=1 player one ingame`
`03:13.07`	`thenk`	`and a few other ones seem to host fine`
`03:13.18`	`Eiviyn`	`If you're going to suggest making each team a different race then fetching their race values ingame, I'll have to kill you :(((`
`03:13.26`	`thenk`	`you need to lock game variants down so player 1 = player 1 i believe`
`03:13.32`	`Trunk`	`yeah but then`
`03:13.35`	`Trunk`	`you cant choose`
`03:13.37`	`Trunk`	`your team`
`03:13.39`	`Trunk`	`gimme a sec`
`03:13.44`	`thenk`	`Eiviyn use game attribute for that`
`03:13.59`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Zanam (603c0a44@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.60.10.68)`
`03:14.05`	`thenk`	`add game attribute and then set it as available for all players in lobby, then you will get an extra dropdown menu..`
`03:14.10`	`Tinman`	`Sigh, blizzard is being over secure on my account... they are locking it for security purposes every hour and asking me to change my password to unlock it again. I doubt anyone is able to break my passwords and I have no idea why the hell they are locking it while I am playing and throwing me out of my matches :(`
`03:14.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have to log into the editor every time I open it.`
`03:14.28`	`Eiviyn`	`What I mean is`
`03:14.33`	`Eiviyn`	`There are 2 teams`
`03:14.37`	`Zanam`	`evening mapsters... everyone sweating over the final changes to their submission map?`
`03:14.38`	`Trunk`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/8902-trigger-placing-identical-teams-made-from-lobbies/#p1`
`03:14.40`	`Eiviyn`	`Right now I have to force each player to sit in thier team`
`03:14.45`	`Trunk`	`i had to change alot of triggers`
`03:14.46`	`Eiviyn`	`imo that is bad design on my part`
`03:14.48`	`Trunk`	`but it worked for me`
`03:14.51`	`Eiviyn`	`I want to let people choose their team`
`03:14.58`	`Trunk`	`yeah i got you`
`03:15.00`	`Trunk`	`this helps`
`03:15.01`	`Eiviyn`	`But getting that to work is just...`
`03:15.01`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Copycat1 (~Copycat@static24-72-91-11.r.rev.accesscomm.ca)`
`03:15.17`	`Trunk`	`download the example map`
`03:15.20`	`Trunk`	`look at it`
`03:15.29`	`Trunk`	`you only need 1 of the triggers i think`
`03:15.34`	`Trunk`	`alot of customization`
`03:15.39`	`Trunk`	`but it works actually`
`03:16.10`	`ReckeD`	`anyone here involved in the approval process for maps on sc2mapster?`
`03:16.24`	`Vulfe`	`I got custom value physics working`
`03:16.29`	`Vulfe`	`If you want me to write a tutorial, I will`
`03:16.30`	`Vulfe`	`<3`
`03:16.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`Zanam i am getting ready for blizzards next contest in 2012`
`03:16.47`	`Eiviyn`	`Nah it's too close to the competition deadline for me to start messing with things outside my comfort zone`
`03:17.00`	`Zanam`	`One month too quick of a deadline for ya Rod?`
`03:17.08`	`Eiviyn`	`All I want right now is for my map to not display the "Custom" tag`
`03:17.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`ReckeD im not but i might be able to answer your question`
`03:17.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`yea a bit zanam`
`03:17.28`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, is it a melee map? ;p`
`03:17.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`if i had gottten the beta back in january sure`
`03:17.39`	`ReckeD`	`How do you make your published map private so people cant just download it and rip it off?`
`03:17.41`	`Komodo1138`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owP3cHrp3b0 <--- the Japanese can do this but they cant drive`
`03:17.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`when u publish it u lock it`
`03:17.50`	`Eiviyn`	`No`
`03:17.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`and make it private`
`03:17.55`	`ReckeD`	`and i dont mean published on battle.net`
`03:17.57`	`Eiviyn`	`It's a custom map`
`03:18.02`	`Otixa`	`Well, it's a custom map then`
`03:18.03`	`Otixa`	`l2p!`
`03:18.04`	`ReckeD`	`i mean published on the sc2mapster website`
`03:18.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`u cant really recked`
`03:18.06`	`Komodo1138`	`you have to publish it to lock it`
`03:18.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`u can pull trigger definitions`
`03:18.15`	`RodOfNOD`	`and fuck with other shit`
`03:18.21`	`Eiviyn`	`Otixa, what I mean is that under Category, it says "Custom,[my game variant name]"`
`03:18.22`	`Zanam`	`RodofNod, I just started as well, no beta, but I figure... this is my only shot for now. Designed something fun, intuitive, simple, and artistic. hopefully blizz gets that.`
`03:18.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`but in the end give it to me and ill crack it in about 10 minutes`
`03:18.27`	`ReckeD`	`i just removed the entire trigger library`
`03:18.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Phaos (~Rorax@60-234-224-240.bitstream.orcon.net.nz)`
`03:18.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`that will help`
`03:18.38`	`ReckeD`	`but now because i did that, its only approved as being an experimental map`
`03:18.39`	`Otixa`	`Oh, ok then :P`
`03:18.42`	`Otixa`	`pats Eiviyn`
`03:18.47`	`Otixa`	`highfives Phaos`
`03:18.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`but it wont stop themn from changing it and uplodaing it`
`03:18.58`	`RodOfNOD`	`bottom line is u cant protect the map on sc2mapster`
`03:19.05`	`Lilianna`	`Phaos, What was the suprise you were trying to tell me about yesterday?`
`03:19.05`	`Phaos`	`everyone is aware if the bug where the editor keeps asking for authen? is there way around it?`
`03:19.12`	`ReckeD`	`im tempted to pull it`
`03:19.12`	`Phaos`	`omg !`
`03:19.16`	`Lilianna`	`Prozaic had that`
`03:19.16`	`Komodo1138`	`you cant even protect it properly even if you upload it to bnet`
`03:19.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`its not a bug phaos`
`03:19.19`	`Lilianna`	`I dont think he fixed it yet`
`03:19.24`	`Phaos`	`you are going to be on modcraft isn't it fantastic :D`
`03:19.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`why do u say that Komodo1138?`
`03:19.30`	`ReckeD`	`i feel iv worked pretty hard to get it to this point and i dont really want to get ripped off by some punk`
`03:19.31`	`Lilianna`	`I am. @_@`
`03:19.40`	`Phaos`	`so it's a bug that it DIDN'T keep asking?`
`03:19.41`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`03:19.44`	`Phaos`	`yes you are :D`
`03:19.47`	`Phaos`	`Yay:D`
`03:19.49`	`Lilianna`	`D:`
`03:19.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`well dont put it on mpaster then is all i can say`
`03:19.59`	`Phaos`	`your going be showing people how to blender and gimp WOOT`
`03:20.00`	`Lilianna`	`Why is everyone telling me this!`
`03:20.02`	`Otixa`	`ruffles Lilianna's hair`
`03:20.03`	`Komodo1138`	`say if you upload it and i play it. i can grab the map and open it with the editor, just dont have the trigger definitions`
`03:20.04`	`Lilianna`	`lols`
`03:20.08`	`Lilianna`	`I dont know how to Blenders`
`03:20.13`	`Phaos`	`then GIMP :D`
`03:20.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`benders`
`03:20.17`	`Lilianna`	`Umm`
`03:20.18`	`Otixa`	`Ye`
`03:20.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`u can open any locked map Komodo1138?`
`03:20.24`	`Lilianna`	`I use Photoshop more then Gimp?`
`03:20.24`	`Otixa`	`And you'll be doing commentary`
`03:20.24`	`ReckeD`	`i was just hoping to take advantage of the sc2mapster forums is all =P`
`03:20.25`	`Komodo1138`	`yep`
`03:20.35`	`Komodo1138`	`i opened doodad hunt :P`
`03:20.39`	`Phaos`	`Otixa I keel you >: \|`
`03:20.42`	`Phaos`	`Point is`
`03:20.48`	`Otixa`	`Phaos, wat? :D`
`03:20.51`	`Phaos`	`your on the show to be token female no. 2 :D YAY`
`03:20.51`	`Lilianna`	`I only got gimp again because I didnt want to wait for 6 hours to dl photoshop again`
`03:21.11`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`03:21.12`	`Lilianna`	`I am going to go break my mic to spite you all!`
`03:21.18`	`Phaos`	`:(`
`03:21.19`	`Otixa`	`No :P`
`03:21.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`y u gotta do dis 2 me :(`
`03:21.29`	`Phaos`	`I am sad now`
`03:21.30`	`ReckeD`	`zzz ah well`
`03:21.43`	`ReckeD`	`thats good to know komodo, and cheers Rod`
`03:21.52`	`Phaos`	`sad that you have scorned this wonderful chance for awesome`
`03:22.04`	`Otixa`	`cries`
`03:22.13`	`Phaos`	`;_; < these a tears`
`03:22.17`	`Phaos`	`tears of sadness`
`03:22.21`	`Otixa`	`looks at his tears opening a portal to hell on the floor`
`03:22.22`	`Phaos`	`because I am sad`
`03:22.41`	`ReckeD`	`if you store a unit in a unit variable`
`03:22.42`	`Phaos`	`GRIEF RUNS LIKE A RIVER OF DARKNESS FROM MY SOUL D:`
`03:22.52`	`Lilianna`	`Into the sea of black tears?`
`03:22.56`	`Lilianna`	`Give your sould to me!`
`03:22.58`	`ReckeD`	`what would cause it not to be called when used in an event?`
`03:22.59`	`Lilianna`	`soul*`
`03:23.13`	`Phaos`	`I'll give you said soul IF you join the show :D`
`03:23.29`	`Trunk`	`Eiviyn`
`03:23.33`	`Trunk`	`one question`
`03:23.34`	`Otixa`	`rips Lilianna's soul out of her body and keeps it hostage`
`03:23.34`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah?`
`03:23.39`	`Trunk`	`are you there?`
`03:23.52`	`Eiviyn`	`I am`
`03:24.02`	`Lilianna`	`I cant join the show`
`03:24.13`	`Phaos`	`:O`
`03:24.28`	`Otixa`	`Wrong answer`
`03:24.32`	`Otixa`	`stabs the soul`
`03:24.51`	`Trunk`	`right`
`03:24.52`	`Trunk`	`ehm`
`03:25.16`	`Trunk`	`i created a validator`
`03:25.21`	`Trunk`	`to validate the level`
`03:25.32`	`Trunk`	`but what step is next?`
`03:25.45`	`Eiviyn`	`Well, first, what level does your hero start at, 1 or 0?`
`03:25.51`	`Trunk`	`1`
`03:25.59`	`Eiviyn`	`Have you tested that ingame?`
`03:26.01`	`Phaos`	`you know... this is going to be so tedious because of how slow the editor can be to change fields :S I have to add 81 models and actors so I can show off the entire Terran ItemKit in one screenshot`
`03:26.03`	`Trunk`	`yes`
`03:26.07`	`Eiviyn`	`Right good`
`03:26.11`	`Eiviyn`	`What's the validator set to?`
`03:26.14`	`Eiviyn`	`What level`
`03:26.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh god Phaos`
`03:26.17`	`Trunk`	`less then`
`03:26.17`	`Trunk`	`4`
`03:26.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`that would be terrible`
`03:26.24`	`Eiviyn`	`Right so`
`03:26.28`	`Otixa`	`Phaos, you nub :P`
`03:26.34`	`Otixa`	`Don't overdo it`
`03:26.39`	`Eiviyn`	`Go to your item buff under the Behaviour tab`
`03:26.43`	`Lilianna`	`You could try and be super and make it one model with 81 variations`
`03:26.44`	`Phaos`	`Over do it ?!`
`03:26.53`	`Phaos`	`:o`
`03:26.55`	`Eiviyn`	`There should be a field labeled "Validator - Remove"`
`03:26.58`	`Phaos`	`Lili your a genius !`
`03:26.59`	`Eiviyn`	`Put your validator there`
`03:27.01`	`Lilianna`	`xD`
`03:27.15`	`Phaos`	`thank you thank you thank you I totally forgot about variations DOH!`
`03:27.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`03:27.28`	`Lilianna`	`Thats what I'm for`
`03:27.28`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, prepare something ou wanna talk about`
`03:27.44`	`Otixa`	`Also, Phaos, you talked to Xar yet?`
`03:27.48`	`Lilianna`	`clobbers Otixa with a very large hammer.`
`03:27.49`	`Trunk`	`okay but`
`03:27.50`	`Phaos`	`nopes`
`03:27.54`	`Otixa`	`evades`
`03:27.55`	`Trunk`	`i can but the validator`
`03:28.00`	`Trunk`	`to 2 different fields`
`03:28.17`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, do not attack your overlord >:[`
`03:28.21`	`Lilianna`	`goes Donkey Kong hammer style on Otixa`
`03:28.28`	`Otixa`	`evades`
`03:28.33`	`Phaos`	`o lawdy your done for Otixa`
`03:28.43`	`Otixa`	`Nowai`
`03:28.43`	`Eiviyn`	`You don't need it in both fields`
`03:28.46`	`Phaos`	`plays the DK hammer tune from super smash`
`03:28.47`	`Eiviyn`	`Just put it in remove`
`03:28.48`	`Otixa`	`I transcend time and space`
`03:28.53`	`Trunk`	`kk`
`03:29.21`	`Trunk`	`and thats it right?`
`03:29.24`	`Otixa`	`punishes Lilianna`
`03:29.28`	`Eiviyn`	`It should work`
`03:29.32`	`Eiviyn`	`You should try it`
`03:29.34`	`Trunk`	`kk ill test it brb`
`03:29.36`	`Eiviyn`	`It's not something I've ever worked with`
`03:29.41`	`Otixa`	`Don't make me turbosmooth your face!`
`03:29.42`	`Lilianna`	`o.O`
`03:29.47`	`Lilianna`	`:p`
`03:29.50`	`Trunk`	`thanks alot :)`
`03:30.28`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, you prepare something aswell`
`03:30.30`	`ReckeD`	`anyone got a few moments to help me with a couple lines of code?`
`03:30.34`	`Otixa`	`shakes fist`
`03:30.38`	`Eiviyn`	`Wha, what for!`
`03:30.40`	`Lilianna`	`The doom sound! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYNBUFNxwlI`
`03:30.46`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, ModCraft!`
`03:31.07`	`Otixa`	`8bit musics :D`
`03:31.38`	`Eiviyn`	`Slave labour`
`03:31.42`	`Phaos`	`YUS`
`03:31.44`	`Otixa`	`Indeed :>`
`03:31.47`	`Phaos`	`Slave labor for great justice`
`03:31.50`	`Eiviyn`	`escapes`
`03:31.58`	`Otixa`	`summons Eiviyn back`
`03:32.05`	`Otixa`	`Bad minion`
`03:32.11`	`Otixa`	`No souls of the damned for you!`
`03:32.17`	`Phaos`	`dances to the hammer tune`
`03:32.23`	`Otixa`	`takes away the bowl of souls`
`03:32.48`	`Otixa`	`hides it in Phaos' face`
`03:32.55`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`03:33.27`	`Triceron`	`Phaos!`
`03:33.39`	`Otixa`	`Where?!`
`03:33.53`	`Triceron`	`lights Phaos on fire`
`03:34.06`	`Otixa`	`dances around the Phaosfire`
`03:34.09`	`Eiviyn`	`How can I get rid of this bloody custom game option when you start the map...`
`03:34.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`hey, listen`
`03:34.22`	`*** join/#sc2mapster progammer_ (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210)`
`03:34.26`	`Eiviyn`	`There's a drop down, the options are custom, then below, my map variant`
`03:34.34`	`Triceron`	`Fallcoonn paaauunch!`
`03:34.38`	`Eiviyn`	`I know people have managed to get rid of the custom thing`
`03:34.44`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, ask vjeux`
`03:34.53`	`Otixa`	`Bonus points if you call him on the phone`
`03:34.54`	`Otixa`	`Now`
`03:34.58`	`Otixa`	`In the middle of the night`
`03:35.10`	`Otixa`	`And talk in French, pretending to be his mum`
`03:35.13`	`Otixa`	`nods`
`03:35.39`	`Phaos`	`is falcawnPOOOOONCHED and the galaxy explodes`
`03:35.50`	`Otixa`	`swings scythe at Phaos`
`03:36.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`magnetic goat`
`03:36.26`	`Phaos`	`can't swing a sythe at something that was anhilated by a falcawnPOOONCH!`
`03:36.33`	`Otixa`	`I can`
`03:36.38`	`Lilianna`	`Unless it used its sheild`
`03:36.40`	`Lilianna`	`like in SSBB`
`03:36.41`	`Otixa`	`My scythe consumes everything in its path :>`
`03:36.44`	`thenk`	`Eiviyn, if you figure it out, tell me !`
`03:36.55`	`Eiviyn`	`Well I have an easy solution`
`03:36.58`	`Eiviyn`	`Go to player properties`
`03:37.00`	`Phaos`	`so it consumed nothing :O ?`
`03:37.03`	`Eiviyn`	`Click "Reset to default"`
`03:37.06`	`thenk`	`I tried making another 'Custom' and it just shows both :P`
`03:37.08`	`Eiviyn`	`Yay removed, but now your map is 1 player`
`03:37.13`	`thenk`	`yeah.`
`03:37.17`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, Super Silly Bullshit Board? ;o`
`03:37.25`	`Lilianna`	`something like that`
`03:37.30`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`03:37.37`	`thenk`	`as soon as you change player properties it creates that custom mode`
`03:37.43`	`Lilianna`	`Super Shiney Blingy Beer?`
`03:37.48`	`WAR`	`I FOUND GARY!`
`03:37.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`!`
`03:37.54`	`thenk`	`perhaps you need to not touch player properties and instead create it off of some template that is 8 player ?`
`03:38.04`	`Eiviyn`	`There are templates?`
`03:38.05`	`Otixa`	`Super Souper Bowl Bath?`
`03:38.11`	`Phaos`	`Super Smash Brothers Brawl GAWD GET IT RIGHT CHILDREN`
`03:38.12`	`thenk`	`i don't know, but maybe`
`03:38.13`	`thenk`	`lol`
`03:38.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`Super String Bacon Bits`
`03:38.20`	`Lilianna`	`Stupid Sudden Blood Bath`
`03:38.23`	`Otixa`	`kicks Phaos`
`03:38.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`STRINGY`
`03:38.34`	`Lilianna`	`Bad Phaos!`
`03:38.35`	`Phaos`	`U R MR GAY`
`03:38.41`	`Otixa`	`D:<`
`03:38.49`	`Otixa`	`Also`
`03:38.49`	`Lilianna`	`Gayapples`
`03:38.54`	`Otixa`	`hands Lilianna a tampon`
`03:39.00`	`Otixa`	`No sudden blood baths`
`03:39.05`	`Phaos`	`D:`
`03:39.09`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`03:39.13`	`Lilianna`	`bleeds on Otixa`
`03:39.17`	`Otixa`	`D:`
`03:39.22`	`Otixa`	`GET IT OFF ME`
`03:39.24`	`Otixa`	`GET IT OFF MEEEEE`
`03:39.26`	`Lilianna`	`xD`
`03:39.29`	`Otixa`	`runs into a brick wall`
`03:39.36`	`WAR`	`http://filesmelt.com/dl/2010-09-06_20-39-03_205.jpg`
`03:39.38`	`WAR`	`I FOUND GARY`
`03:39.42`	`Jum-Jum`	`Can you add observer slots in your own map?`
`03:39.47`	`Jum-Jum`	`I mean in the lobby on battle.net`
`03:39.54`	`Jum-Jum`	`or do I have to manually make obs in the map :S`
`03:39.55`	`Otixa`	`WAR, wut iz diz? :\|`
`03:40.01`	`WAR`	`ITS GARY`
`03:40.05`	`Jum-Jum`	`:O`
`03:40.07`	`Jum-Jum`	`GARY!`
`03:40.09`	`Phaos`	`holy crap snail`
`03:40.12`	`Jum-Jum`	`mjau`
`03:40.14`	`Otixa`	`eats Gary`
`03:40.18`	`Jum-Jum`	`:(`
`03:40.21`	`Otixa`	`Ha!`
`03:40.26`	`Phaos`	`btw gary is a sea snail, that is clearly a common garden snail`
`03:40.40`	`WAR`	`I POKED ITS EYE`
`03:40.42`	`WAR`	`AND IT WENT AWAY`
`03:40.43`	`WAR`	`LOL`
`03:40.46`	`Otixa`	`Song of the now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Q_koTHB54`
`03:40.48`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`03:41.02`	`Phaos`	`hah, already seen it!`
`03:41.12`	`Otixa`	`See it again!`
`03:41.13`	`Otixa`	`>:[`
`03:41.18`	`Eiviyn`	`New DUNE game?!?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Q_koTHB54`
`03:41.24`	`Phaos`	`you should be linking them to sum of a body!`
`03:41.25`	`Otixa`	`facepalms`
`03:41.38`	`Otixa`	`hugs Eiviyn`
`03:41.40`	`Otixa`	`Shush`
`03:41.58`	`Phaos`	`I can't habeeb I fell for that -_-`
`03:42.03`	`Eiviyn`	`Need to overuse this "joke" to the point where they do release a new dune game and nobody believes me`
`03:42.14`	`Otixa`	`rofl`
`03:42.17`	`Eiviyn`	`...I even used the same link :((`
`03:42.24`	`Komodo1138`	`good old crying wolf :P`
`03:42.25`	`Phaos`	`yeah :S`
`03:42.34`	`Eiviyn`	`Wonder how a dune game would fit into sc2`
`03:42.35`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, Phaos just phails :D`
`03:42.40`	`Eiviyn`	`Probably not very well`
`03:42.41`	`Phaos`	`D:`
`03:42.47`	`Otixa`	`pats Phaos`
`03:42.49`	`Phaos`	`I am cute and endearing!`
`03:42.52`	`Eiviyn`	`NYDUS WORMS EATING MY SCVS DDD:`
`03:42.53`	`Phaos`	`NOT PHAIL`
`03:42.55`	`Trunk`	`okay it works for me :)`
`03:42.57`	`Phaos`	`hulks out`
`03:42.58`	`*** join/#sc2mapster HeyRevolver (HeyRevolve@cpe-071-068-127-183.carolina.res.rr.com)`
`03:43.01`	`Phaos`	`PHAOS SMASH!`
`03:43.01`	`Trunk`	`but its not less then`
`03:43.05`	`Trunk`	`its higher than^^`
`03:43.06`	`Otixa`	`Onoe`
`03:43.26`	`Phaos`	`breaks the everything`
`03:43.29`	`Otixa`	`goes into dimensional rift demon mode`
`03:43.42`	`Otixa`	`phases out of reality`
`03:43.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`I guess I'll start doing the sequences for Asmodaeus`
`03:44.05`	`Phaos`	`you know... the way the dark templar does model variations confuses the living fook out of me`
`03:44.10`	`thenk`	`Eiviyn, i have an idea..`
`03:44.18`	`Otixa`	`Phaos, I think it has to do with filename`
`03:44.23`	`Otixa`	`_0, _1 etc`
`03:44.39`	`thenk`	`except, when you set default player properties, there's only 1 player available for selection in game modes`
`03:44.41`	`thenk`	`:(`
`03:44.44`	`thenk`	`buhbow`
`03:44.52`	`Eiviyn`	`Yep`
`03:44.52`	`Lilianna`	`Callll on meeeee...`
`03:44.53`	`Eiviyn`	`Tried that`
`03:44.53`	`Otixa`	`Who's there?`
`03:44.57`	`Otixa`	`Is anyone there?`
`03:44.58`	`Lilianna`	`sings the 4 words to this song`
`03:45.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgdMjR7v8F0&fmt=18`
`03:45.03`	`Otixa`	`calls Lilianna`
`03:45.06`	`Eiviyn`	`Then I tried only adding players and adjusting no other field in player properties`
`03:45.08`	`Eiviyn`	`Didn't work either`
`03:45.08`	`Otixa`	`Ohai`
`03:45.12`	`Otixa`	`How are you?`
`03:45.16`	`Otixa`	`How's the weather?`
`03:45.18`	`Otixa`	`:B`
`03:45.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`Burny.`
`03:45.23`	`Phaos`	`oh man. I am not renaming all of my models just to have a model variation version`
`03:45.26`	`Lilianna`	`too warm`
`03:45.50`	`Otixa`	`I would like to order a handheld portal device`
`03:46.06`	`Eiviyn`	`I would like the game lobby to have AT LEAST SOMETHING to do with the actual game`
`03:46.13`	`Phaos`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-OLi4mnSho`
`03:46.23`	`thenk`	`you can carry over the game attributes`
`03:46.24`	`Otixa`	`pats Eiviyn on the head`
`03:46.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`so you can run and tell that run and tell that run and tell that, homeboy home home homeboy`
`03:46.28`	`Otixa`	`Calm down nao`
`03:46.40`	`thenk`	`like you can set drop down menus and then get those values out in the game`
`03:46.40`	`Eiviyn`	`5 hours of messing with lobbies`
`03:46.43`	`Eiviyn`	`Progress: 0`
`03:46.46`	`thenk`	`but still, it would be nice if player 1 = player 1`
`03:46.52`	`Otixa`	`Phaos, wat be dis shitbull?`
`03:47.03`	`Phaos`	`it is amazing thats what`
`03:47.03`	`Eiviyn`	`thenk`
`03:47.05`	`Eiviyn`	`I also tried`
`03:47.10`	`Eiviyn`	`Setting a custom value to each player`
`03:47.19`	`Eiviyn`	`But the custom value follows the bloody players as they change slots`
`03:47.29`	`Eiviyn`	`I tried making team 1 terran and team 2 protoss`
`03:47.30`	`Eiviyn`	`Result?`
`03:47.34`	`Eiviyn`	`First 5 players are terran`
`03:47.38`	`Eiviyn`	`They change team, they stay terran`
`03:47.43`	`Eiviyn`	`Second 5 players are protoss`
`03:47.48`	`Eiviyn`	`They change team, they stay protoss`
`03:48.00`	`Eiviyn`	`Whoever suggested that, I'm going to murder`
`03:48.04`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, just hardcode it already >:\|`
`03:48.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`You can use my weapon of choice for murder if you desire`
`03:48.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`a blunted table.`
`03:49.07`	`Vulfe`	`I just started this physics thing`
`03:49.10`	`Lilianna`	`do you have to make a table any more blunt?`
`03:49.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`for the most dramatic effect you must emit a high-pitched squeel while swinging it in a wide arc`
`03:49.14`	`Vulfe`	`and I'm already tracking 7 custom values per projectile`
`03:49.15`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`03:49.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`03:49.19`	`Eiviyn`	`I'll settle for a splintered sc2 disc`
`03:49.36`	`Eiviyn`	`"I'm going to install the editor... into you"`
`03:49.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`frosted butts`
`03:50.06`	`Otixa`	`wut wut`
`03:50.31`	`Phaos`	`This is what I do, I sit on you, sit on you, sit on you, right on your head!`
`03:50.52`	`Otixa`	`rofl`
`03:51.25`	`Otixa`	`MAH IQS`
`03:51.28`	`*** join/#sc2mapster divaloy (603c0a44@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.60.10.68)`
`03:51.29`	`Otixa`	`DEY BE DROPPANG`
`03:52.08`	`divaloy`	`what a pain. trying to record a text-to-speech thing into audacity, somehow they made it so it records the word 'trial' on the recording software, even though it's playing the written speech in media player.`
`03:52.19`	`Eiviyn`	`Screw it`
`03:52.24`	`Eiviyn`	`And Otixa, I already did hardcode it`
`03:52.30`	`Eiviyn`	`Months ago`
`03:52.40`	`Eiviyn`	`Just I wanted a more elegant solution`
`03:52.48`	`Otixa`	`Elegant? Blizz?`
`03:52.48`	`Eiviyn`	`Something simple like, oh say, letting you choose your team`
`03:52.50`	`Otixa`	`Hhahahahaha!`
`03:52.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`ahahahah`
`03:53.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`you say that as though Blizzard wants you to be able to do something logically`
`03:53.09`	`Eiviyn`	`Instead of "Hey I have a game variant, but you can ruin it by selecting custom"`
`03:53.20`	`Eiviyn`	`THEN "What you do in this lobby is completely inconsequential"`
`03:53.36`	`Eiviyn`	`So I just forced 10 players max, then forced 1-5 to be team 1, and forced 6-10 to be team 2`
`03:53.40`	`Otixa`	`pats Eiviyn`
`03:53.43`	`Otixa`	`We know, we know`
`03:53.54`	`Otixa`	`Hell, if you see the stuff they fucked up in modelling... :B`
`03:53.56`	`Eiviyn`	`It feels nasty...`
`03:53.59`	`Eiviyn`	`ps it's not a dota map`
`03:54.08`	`Otixa`	`It better not be`
`03:54.09`	`Eiviyn`	`I feel shameful even saying 2 teams, 5 per team`
`03:54.16`	`Otixa`	`Or we'll have your boobs on a plate`
`03:54.57`	`Eiviyn`	`The only reason I chose 5v5 was because the loading screen breaks if you have 6 per team`
`03:54.59`	`Otixa`	`Crater! \o/`
`03:55.13`	`Eiviyn`	`On bnet release I'd make it 3v3 to cater to the popularity system`
`03:55.15`	`Otixa`	`shoots a baby at Phaos`
`03:55.25`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, don't`
`03:55.32`	`Eiviyn`	`IT IS DONE!`
`03:55.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`NO`
`03:55.36`	`Otixa`	`Wat.`
`03:55.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`I REFUSE`
`03:55.39`	`Otixa`	`NO`
`03:56.01`	`Komodo1138`	`what kind of map you making Eiviyn`
`03:56.01`	`Otixa`	`refuses`
`03:56.19`	`Eiviyn`	`Battleships meets mech warrior meets arathi basin meets EVE online`
`03:56.19`	`Phaos`	`I'M ENJOYING A TREAT DEREK!`
`03:56.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`does it have lasers`
`03:56.31`	`Komodo1138`	`ok wow`
`03:56.31`	`Otixa`	`DERRREEEEEEEEEEK`
`03:56.34`	`thenk`	`avara ftw`
`03:56.34`	`Otixa`	`explodes`
`03:56.49`	`Eiviyn`	`It has a lot of lasers and explosions, because I love explosions`
`03:56.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`EXPLOSIONS`
`03:57.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`that's all I need`
`03:57.02`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, screenshot or it didn't happen >:\|`
`03:57.31`	`Otixa`	`sits on Phaos' head`
`03:57.38`	`Eiviyn`	`http://a.imageshack.us/img13/7189/terrain018.jpg`
`03:57.44`	`Lilianna`	`hides behind Eiviyn`
`03:57.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`FIRE`
`03:57.52`	`Otixa`	`Ooh :o`
`03:57.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`I UNLEASH THE BEAST`
`03:58.03`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, where's the skybox? Â¬_Â¬`
`03:58.06`	`Lilianna`	`I think were not supposed to enter there`
`03:58.10`	`Eiviyn`	`It's top down view`
`03:58.11`	`Komodo1138`	`there may be a screenshop but i think its fake. damn photoshop`
`03:58.12`	`Eiviyn`	`No skybox`
`03:58.18`	`Eiviyn`	`Was just panning around in the editor`
`03:58.21`	`Eiviyn`	`And thought, ooh, nice`
`03:58.24`	`Otixa`	`oh :<`
`03:58.34`	`Eiviyn`	`I will make it third person like`
`03:58.35`	`Otixa`	`Well, looks nice`
`03:58.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`I can do that too http://a.imageshack.us/img833/4268/screenshot2010090413571.jpg`
`03:58.43`	`Otixa`	`pats Eiviyn on the head`
`03:58.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`BATTELCROOZERZ`
`03:58.52`	`Eiviyn`	`My tank turret demo map`
`03:59.08`	`Demo`	`Your tank turret me map?`
`03:59.14`	`HR_`	`might it be faster to run an infinite loop with a zero wait than a periodic trigger with a zero interval?`
`03:59.28`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah you rotate a turret around using the camera`
`03:59.29`	`Otixa`	`kicks IskatuMesk for having WoW models`
`03:59.32`	`Eiviyn`	`And the chassis with wasd`
`03:59.35`	`Eiviyn`	`And shoot stuff`
`03:59.40`	`Eiviyn`	`It was fun :((`
`03:59.42`	`HR_`	`only thing that worries me is if the trigger bugs it doesnt recover the loop way, the periodic would continnue to fire`
`04:00.00`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, needs moar custom models!`
`04:00.04`	`HR_`	`my wasd is a little slow...`
`04:00.06`	`Lilianna`	`I should get baack to playing with my omegalisk boss, but I dun wanna`
`04:00.21`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, stay a while and listen!`
`04:00.33`	`Eiviyn`	`No custom models yet`
`04:00.39`	`Lilianna`	`Im killing Wii dragons`
`04:00.46`	`Eiviyn`	`Need to do some voice acting for my tutorial`
`04:00.52`	`Eiviyn`	`But it's 5am`
`04:01.02`	`thenk`	`lol`
`04:01.07`	`Otixa`	`7AM here :D`
`04:01.11`	`thenk`	`i work for a professional production company`
`04:01.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`when I did the TGD 2.1 voice I did it at the crack of dawn while I was really sick`
`04:01.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`and it turned out the best of any of my takes`
`04:01.20`	`thenk`	`we has got voice talent on tap`
`04:01.24`	`Komodo1138`	`its only 10:01pm in the real world`
`04:01.39`	`Otixa`	`punches Komodo1138`
`04:01.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@c-76-126-227-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`04:01.43`	`Eiviyn`	`My first sc2 map, and where I want my map to be in the end of things; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-5pDEO4cHQ`
`04:01.45`	`thenk`	`i will produce your tutorial audio for a nominal fee.. >D`
`04:01.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Just... look at all those explosions`
`04:01.53`	`Eiviyn`	`Is that not beautiful`
`04:02.01`	`Otixa`	`clicks`
`04:02.05`	`thenk`	`except it's aussie.`
`04:02.13`	`Saeris`	`hey, who here has done Cutscenes before?`
`04:02.19`	`Eiviyn`	`I have`
`04:02.25`	`Saeris`	`I'm having a ton of trouble having a cinematic play for each player`
`04:02.27`	`Eiviyn`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5zL_7GD3sA&feature=related`
`04:02.29`	`Eiviyn`	`Mah cutscene`
`04:02.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`that is fairly neat`
`04:02.45`	`Otixa`	`stamps Otixa's seal of approval on Eiviyn's forehead`
`04:02.48`	`Otixa`	`Quite win`
`04:02.53`	`Komodo1138`	`ok thats cool Eiviyn`
`04:03.04`	`Phaos`	`http://www.youtube.com/user/BalloonShop#p/u/1/Gdqk1rfsfyA`
`04:03.14`	`Otixa`	`Teh cutscene is not so win :/`
`04:03.16`	`Eiviyn`	`I want to make one for the epic battle cutscene`
`04:03.21`	`Saeris`	`happen to know how to make a cinematic run for each player, and not run one player at a time?`
`04:03.21`	`Eiviyn`	`fu, check the date :((`
`04:03.35`	`Otixa`	`NoU! D:<`
`04:03.49`	`Komodo1138`	`Would you like to know more? nice touch at the end`
`04:03.52`	`Eiviyn`	`Well Saeris`
`04:04.00`	`Otixa`	`btw, Phaos, imma need your Skype`
`04:04.07`	`thenk`	`nice trigs there Eiviyn`
`04:04.13`	`thenk`	`for the tank control, looks v. smooth`
`04:04.30`	`Eiviyn`	`I don't get the issue, just only apply the camera triggers to the player you want`
`04:04.56`	`Saeris`	`it's an opening cutscene for a multiplayer map, so it has to do it for each player'`
`04:05.08`	`Eiviyn`	`Oh`
`04:05.08`	`Eiviyn`	`As soon as they fix the b.net lag, that's the style of my map :((`
`04:05.08`	`Eiviyn`	`Right`
`04:05.11`	`Saeris`	`but a Pick Each Player does each player in sequence`
`04:05.13`	`thenk`	`so start it for every player?`
`04:05.14`	`Saeris`	`not at the same time`
`04:05.16`	`Eiviyn`	`You want it played for all players?`
`04:05.22`	`Saeris`	`yes`
`04:05.28`	`Eiviyn`	`Do you want it cancelable?`
`04:05.32`	`Eiviyn`	`Or forced?`
`04:05.34`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, if yer gonna make a map with tanks and stuff, I want the fuck in! >:[`
`04:05.42`	`Saeris`	`so i tried to cinematic editor built in to the map, and it still loops (even through footage i deleted)`
`04:05.46`	`Eiviyn`	`I already did make a map with tanks and splosions!`
`04:05.48`	`Saeris`	`yes, cancleable too`
`04:05.53`	`Eiviyn`	`Right`
`04:05.55`	`Eiviyn`	`Trigger`
`04:06.00`	`Eiviyn`	`Map initialisation`
`04:06.03`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, but it lags and haz no custom models and overly shiny graphics!`
`04:06.04`	`Eiviyn`	`Add all your active players to a player group`
`04:06.08`	`Eiviyn`	`Label it, cinematic or whatever`
`04:06.17`	`Eiviyn`	`The player group being a global variable`
`04:06.24`	`Saeris`	`yea, already got all that`
`04:06.29`	`Eiviyn`	`Use "Apply camera object" and only apply it to the player group`
`04:06.46`	`Xackery`	`http://www.xfire.com/video/359f27/ heh`
`04:06.47`	`Otixa`	`WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE`
`04:06.49`	`Eiviyn`	`I recommend leaving the fields as "use existing velocity" and "20% decel" because they're cool`
`04:06.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'll probably end up having to use pre-rendered CGI for most of my cinematics`
`04:06.54`	`Otixa`	`prods Eiviyn`
`04:06.56`	`Otixa`	`prods Eiviyn more`
`04:06.59`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`04:07.00`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Arkinsaal (3ce26993@gateway/web/freenode/ip.60.226.105.147)`
`04:07.00`	`Eiviyn`	`Whaaat`
`04:07.02`	`Saeris`	`problem there`
`04:07.06`	`Otixa`	`DEFIAS BROTHERHOOD?!`
`04:07.12`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah`
`04:07.18`	`Saeris`	`you can't only specify players from a player group`
`04:07.21`	`Otixa`	`makes the sky rain fire`
`04:07.23`	`Saeris`	`not the entire player group`
`04:07.23`	`thenk`	`i want someone to import the peon from WC3 for me`
`04:07.32`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Suterusu (8ddbc575@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.219.197.117)`
`04:07.32`	`Saeris`	`not unless you do pick each player`
`04:07.35`	`Otixa`	`I played on DB D:`
`04:07.42`	`Otixa`	`Since it first came online Â¬_Â¬`
`04:07.46`	`Eiviyn`	`"For each player [integar]" then apply the camera object`
`04:07.47`	`thenk`	`and then I want lots of different weapons, shields, and hats to add to the peon`
`04:07.57`	`Eiviyn`	`Sorry, "for each player in player group [integer]"`
`04:08.06`	`Suterusu`	`Someoen told me if I wanted a clickable "image" in a dialog I needed to crate the dialog and have a transparant something over it, what's that something?`
`04:08.18`	`Suterusu`	`*dialog image`
`04:08.19`	`thenk`	`Eiviyn i think he has an issue where it applies the camera and waits for the user to finish before applying the next?`
`04:08.40`	`Saeris`	`yea, exactly`
`04:08.45`	`Otixa`	`prods Eiviyn`
`04:08.50`	`Otixa`	`Char names`
`04:08.52`	`Otixa`	`Nao`
`04:09.14`	`Eiviyn`	`I quit`
`04:09.25`	`Otixa`	`Ragequit, yeye`
`04:09.30`	`Otixa`	`Gief names anyway`
`04:09.37`	`Eiviyn`	`Nah just sick of raiding icc for the last 11 months`
`04:09.42`	`Eiviyn`	`I'm also not on defias anymore`
`04:09.57`	`Otixa`	`Traitor! >:\|`
`04:09.57`	`thenk`	`hear hear.`
`04:10.03`	`Eiviyn`	`But, Saeris, uh, not sure what to suggest. It works for me, I can ss my triggers if you want`
`04:10.05`	`thenk`	`you can only down lk so many times before it becomes boring`
`04:10.07`	`thenk`	`;P`
`04:10.34`	`Eiviyn`	`I have a few gladiator titles on that character, heroic LK dead and immortality mount, what else is there to do`
`04:10.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`gank lowbies`
`04:10.59`	`thenk`	`so boring`
`04:10.59`	`Otixa`	`I haz Knight title`
`04:11.01`	`Otixa`	`beat that`
`04:11.03`	`Otixa`	`ha!`
`04:11.06`	`thenk`	`the insane..`
`04:11.08`	`Eiviyn`	`Wish I did... tbc character`
`04:11.19`	`thenk`	`was hard`
`04:11.19`	`Otixa`	`:/`
`04:11.30`	`thenk`	`battlemaster is also hard.`
`04:11.31`	`Eiviyn`	`I did play in vanilla but I was beyond casual`
`04:11.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Have battlemaster and ~11200 "I play too much" points`
`04:11.51`	`Otixa`	`hears casual and thinks of tape worms`
`04:12.01`	`thenk`	`yeah.`
`04:12.05`	`thenk`	`it's over nine thousand.`
`04:12.06`	`thenk`	`million.`
`04:12.08`	`Saeris`	`i'm gonna have to do something like, Pick Each Player - Apply Camera Object to Picked Player for each camera change, and have a wait in between`
`04:12.19`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah that's what I said`
`04:12.19`	`Saeris`	`using the Cinematic editor was working, but`
`04:12.32`	`Eiviyn`	`I've never used the cinematic editor, I just assumed it was for single player`
`04:12.43`	`thenk`	`personally i would use a general - while loop`
`04:12.44`	`Saeris`	`if i changed anything in it, it would still run the old footage, even though it's completely deleted, after it played the new footage`
`04:12.49`	`*** join/#sc2mapster UltiDrgn (~UltiDrgn@hc652528f.dhcp.vt.edu)`
`04:12.50`	`thenk`	`but im stuck in my old ways :(`
`04:12.59`	`Otixa`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdEYVy6BF0w`
`04:13.00`	`Otixa`	`Thar`
`04:13.09`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`04:13.37`	`Saeris`	`my cinematic isn't very easy to do >.< I have 30+ cameras and it's 2 1/2 mins long, roughly`
`04:13.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Shouldn't matter`
`04:13.56`	`Otixa`	`oneshots Eiviyn`
`04:14.11`	`Saeris`	`it only matters in that it takes forever to tweak in the trigger editor`
`04:14.13`	`Eiviyn`	`Just do the "pick each player -> apply camera for player" thing for each`
`04:14.24`	`Eiviyn`	`It shouldn't be that long`
`04:14.41`	`thenk`	`you're using triggers to move the cameras around?`
`04:14.48`	`thenk`	`isn't that a function of the cinematic editor?`
`04:15.03`	`thenk`	`i'll just shoosh now considering ive never even touched the cinematic stuff yet :P`
`04:15.17`	`thenk`	`i thought there was a whole module for writing cinematics though that controlled all that`
`04:15.35`	`Otixa`	`backstabs thenk`
`04:17.33`	`Lilianna`	`Hurray no more grinding this monster!`
`04:17.41`	`thenk`	`ponders the situation`
`04:17.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`grinds`
`04:17.44`	`Eiviyn`	`Did you get your drop?!`
`04:17.59`	`Otixa`	`backstabs Lilianna`
`04:18.02`	`Otixa`	`loots Lilianna`
`04:18.04`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`04:18.05`	`Jum-Jum`	`man`
`04:18.11`	`Jum-Jum`	`I really fucking hate mapmaking for sc2`
`04:18.19`	`thenk`	`fashions a shiv from rusted door hinges`
`04:18.20`	`Otixa`	`It hates you too ;p`
`04:18.21`	`Eiviyn`	`Stick with it`
`04:18.26`	`Eiviyn`	`It's rewarding`
`04:18.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`me too`
`04:18.31`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, how? :D`
`04:18.33`	`Jum-Jum`	`mostly becuase of battle.net and their entire retarded publish bullshit`
`04:18.35`	`thenk`	`........`
`04:18.37`	`Lilianna`	`Otixa, fail, I always wear my Razorback`
`04:18.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`and believe me I've done mapping/modding for some demented games out there`
`04:18.40`	`thenk`	`waits patiently for Otixa to die`
`04:18.47`	`Eiviyn`	`Dunno I just love problem solving and the editor is just one huge problem waiting to be solved`
`04:18.48`	`Otixa`	`nerfs Lilianna`
`04:19.00`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, sounds like C# coding ;p`
`04:19.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`you cannot solve the editor's problems without a cyanide capsule`
`04:19.05`	`Otixa`	`Or XNA, rather`
`04:19.20`	`thenk`	`the editor has issues`
`04:19.22`	`thenk`	`namely womanly ones`
`04:19.25`	`Eiviyn`	`Also it lets me create splosions`
`04:19.29`	`Otixa`	`give it tissues`
`04:19.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`I can create splosions with just about anything fortunately`
`04:19.38`	`Otixa`	`pats Eiviyn`
`04:19.44`	`Otixa`	`gives Eiviyn a cookie`
`04:19.44`	`thenk`	`when you give it too many splosions it goes kooky`
`04:19.50`	`Eiviyn`	`Did you take a sneak peak at my map while you were invading my youtube channel`
`04:20.00`	`thenk`	`IskatuMesk yes, please stop looking at me like that, it's creeping me out.`
`04:20.01`	`Eiviyn`	`There's no such thing as too many splosions`
`04:20.03`	`Otixa`	`I might have :P`
`04:20.13`	`Eiviyn`	`It lacks a voiceover right now`
`04:20.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`does it give you shivers`
`04:20.18`	`Eiviyn`	`I have the audio files but lazy`
`04:20.20`	`Lilianna`	`Ive been making boss behavior in the Data Editor`
`04:20.24`	`Lilianna`	`:D`
`04:20.30`	`Lilianna`	`its fun!`
`04:20.41`	`thenk`	`if getting hit - kill things?`
`04:20.47`	`Lilianna`	`no`
`04:20.48`	`Otixa`	`xD`
`04:20.52`	`Otixa`	`tbh`
`04:20.54`	`thenk`	`sounds like a pretty wussy boss then.`
`04:20.57`	`Lilianna`	`like putting timers on abilities, where it can randomly choose one to use`
`04:20.57`	`Otixa`	`I don't like the SC2 editor`
`04:21.00`	`thenk`	`what's it do, throw flowers?`
`04:21.05`	`thenk`	`lol`
`04:21.07`	`Otixa`	`Doesn't allow you to do what you want`
`04:21.07`	`thenk`	`o yeah`
`04:21.14`	`Otixa`	`Overly restrictive`
`04:21.15`	`Otixa`	`Â¬_Â¬`
`04:21.15`	`Lilianna`	`it stomps and does an aoe damage stun right now`
`04:21.17`	`Eiviyn`	`What did you think of it if you did watch it Otixa?`
`04:21.22`	`thenk`	`i need to work on that myself.. except not for bosses, just for regular units`
`04:21.23`	`Lilianna`	`so soon it will have a charge where it can run over things too`
`04:21.40`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, my first thought was "why is the volume so low" :P`
`04:21.40`	`Lilianna`	`I also have any marine auto target the enemy boss, when they spawn`
`04:21.48`	`Lilianna`	`and run after it to kill it or die!`
`04:21.59`	`Eiviyn`	`Volume is low because it's meant to have a voice ontop of it`
`04:21.59`	`Otixa`	`Seemed alright otherwise`
`04:22.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`Eiviyn I subSCRIBED maybe some of my 1.2k viewers will leak over`
`04:22.26`	`Otixa`	`leaks on IskatuMesk`
`04:22.31`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`04:22.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA`
`04:22.42`	`Otixa`	`Right`
`04:22.46`	`Otixa`	`This is bullshit`
`04:22.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`is that... a GUNAM`
`04:22.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`GUNDAM`
`04:22.53`	`Otixa`	`I need to go back to teh UK already`
`04:22.53`	`Zanam`	`awwwesooome`
`04:23.02`	`Otixa`	`It's boring here >:\|`
`04:23.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`I am watching it btw`
`04:23.19`	`Eiviyn`	`But yeah that's the base map and I want to combine it with the tank turret thing you saw, that'd be my perfect map`
`04:23.33`	`Eiviyn`	`Choice, tanks, and splosions`
`04:23.33`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, no models, no pants, no service`
`04:23.44`	`Eiviyn`	`With the voice files`
`04:23.47`	`Eiviyn`	`It'll be nearly 10mb`
`04:23.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`fps is a bit jerky`
`04:24.06`	`Eiviyn`	`The quality is just bad, it's 480p`
`04:24.14`	`Eiviyn`	`I have a 1080p one on my hard drive`
`04:24.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`well youtube is always jeky for me anyway`
`04:24.17`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, do a good job on ModCraft and we'll make you awesome custom models :>`
`04:24.28`	`Eiviyn`	`No slave labour!`
`04:24.29`	`UltiDrgn`	`Lies`
`04:24.34`	`Otixa`	`Yes slave labor!`
`04:24.59`	`Otixa`	`Don't make me get your cage again >:[`
`04:25.09`	`Otixa`	`Actually`
`04:25.14`	`Otixa`	`I need to model a rattle cage`
`04:25.16`	`Lilianna`	`what, not allowed to have pants now eithier?`
`04:25.26`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna, indeed :P`
`04:25.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`no`
`04:25.49`	`Otixa`	`Pantsless party!`
`04:25.52`	`Eiviyn`	`I tried for hours to make the shops only available to 1 team`
`04:26.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`I like the map btw`
`04:26.18`	`HeyRevolver`	`You wanna come to the pants party?`
`04:26.19`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, make 2 actors for the shops`
`04:26.24`	`Otixa`	`One that allows shopping`
`04:26.27`	`Otixa`	`And one that doesn't`
`04:26.30`	`HeyRevolver`	`brick.. are you trying to ask me if I want to go to a partyy in your pants?`
`04:26.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`the little touches are what I like`
`04:26.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`the ships landing and dropping off dudes and such`
`04:26.38`	`Eiviyn`	`That won't work though`
`04:26.41`	`Otixa`	`It will`
`04:26.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`most people are very lazy`
`04:26.42`	`Lilianna`	`Eiviyn, if the base shop is an ally of the team, you could just make the autocast ally only?`
`04:26.48`	`Otixa`	`ApplyUnitActor();`
`04:26.52`	`HR_`	`how do you turn off selection highlight on a vehicle`
`04:26.56`	`Eiviyn`	`Shops have to be neutral`
`04:27.09`	`Eiviyn`	`They will not work otherwise, I've tried everything to make them work`
`04:27.10`	`Otixa`	`ApplyUnitActor(); >=[`
`04:27.27`	`Eiviyn`	`Thing with that is`
`04:27.30`	`Eiviyn`	`If you have an enemy near`
`04:27.31`	`HR_`	`er... on a unit lol`
`04:27.36`	`Eiviyn`	`And an ally`
`04:27.42`	`Eiviyn`	`Which shop actor does it use?`
`04:27.47`	`Otixa`	`Make a check`
`04:27.53`	`Otixa`	`For which unit first triggers it`
`04:27.56`	`Eiviyn`	`But there's only 1 of 2 solutions`
`04:28.01`	`Eiviyn`	`Either nobody can buy, or all can`
`04:28.01`	`Otixa`	`And depending on that, it'll change the target`
`04:28.02`	`HR_`	`UnitSetState(unit, c_unitStateHighlightable, false); didnt work`
`04:28.16`	`Eiviyn`	`I thought about`
`04:28.23`	`Eiviyn`	`Making team 2's vehicles have a flag that team 1's didn't`
`04:28.23`	`Otixa`	`Or you can just make it change team`
`04:28.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`just put allied ships next to a cannon that 1shots enemies.`
`04:28.34`	`Otixa`	`Which will be a lot easier`
`04:28.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`shops`
`04:28.36`	`HR_`	`maybe i can just make it unselectable, theres no UI anyway`
`04:28.38`	`Eiviyn`	`And making team 2's shops require that flag`
`04:28.52`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, don't overengineer it >:\|`
`04:28.56`	`Otixa`	`It's simple`
`04:29.09`	`Eiviyn`	`They have to be player 0 owned`
`04:29.16`	`Eiviyn`	`Can't change their team`
`04:29.22`	`Eiviyn`	`Another silly restriction`
`04:29.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`well I mean`
`04:29.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`if you have team A's shops in team A's base`
`04:29.34`	`Otixa`	`Change it's owner to e.g. player 1`
`04:29.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`team A has a GIGA LAZOR`
`04:29.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`that vaporizes enemies nearby`
`04:29.42`	`Eiviyn`	`That won't work because`
`04:29.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`like the dota fountain`
`04:29.55`	`Eiviyn`	`If you set it to any player that isn't 0`
`04:30.06`	`Eiviyn`	`It won't let you buy items under the error of "You can't spend another player's resources"`
`04:30.18`	`Otixa`	`Â¬_Â¬`
`04:30.26`	`Otixa`	`FINE`
`04:30.31`	`Otixa`	`Make 3 actors`
`04:30.37`	`Otixa`	`1: does nothing`
`04:30.40`	`Otixa`	`2: works for team 1`
`04:30.44`	`Otixa`	`3: works for team 2`
`04:30.48`	`Otixa`	`badum-tish`
`04:30.57`	`Saeris`	`omg, i hate the cinematic editor >.< holy fuck`
`04:31.02`	`Saeris`	`the cinematic i had previous`
`04:31.02`	`HR_`	`why did i even select the unit in the first place...`
`04:31.05`	`Saeris`	`which i completely deleted`
`04:31.06`	`Eiviyn`	`If it were possible to make an actor that only worked for team 1, I wouldn't be asking this :((`
`04:31.11`	`Saeris`	`even removed the trigger that runs it`
`04:31.13`	`Saeris`	`IT STILL RUNS`
`04:31.15`	`Saeris`	`>.<`
`04:31.17`	`Saeris`	`omfg`
`04:31.22`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`04:31.28`	`Otixa`	`Well, ask vjeux`
`04:31.35`	`Otixa`	`He has it working in sotis, afaik`
`04:31.43`	`Eiviyn`	`sotis is trigger based`
`04:31.44`	`Eiviyn`	`Mine is data based`
`04:31.52`	`Otixa`	`l2p! ;p`
`04:32.02`	`Eiviyn`	`Wonder if I can apply unit flags ingame...`
`04:32.15`	`Otixa`	`You can with trigers`
`04:32.18`	`Eiviyn`	`Without having to create duplicates of every unit`
`04:32.22`	`Otixa`	`Well, you can with galaxy code`
`04:32.46`	`Otixa`	`Hell, I helped someone create triggers during the game :P`
`04:32.54`	`Otixa`	`And attach events to them`
`04:33.06`	`Otixa`	`So I'm pretty sure you can make it work kfine with code`
`04:33.14`	`Otixa`	`API is pretty big ;p`
`04:34.04`	`Otixa`	`Now... I demand coffee Â¬_Â¬`
`04:34.20`	`HeyRevolver`	`coffe made with holy water`
`04:34.26`	`Otixa`	`Fuck that >:\|`
`04:34.28`	`Otixa`	`It burns`
`04:34.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`04:34.46`	`Otixa`	`sets HeyRevolver on fire`
`04:34.49`	`HeyRevolver`	`why is my framerate locked at 20 on my map?`
`04:34.57`	`HeyRevolver`	`is that a test thing`
`04:35.10`	`UltiDrgn`	`Because you didn't swipe your mapper benefits card`
`04:35.18`	`Otixa`	`Ye :P`
`04:35.24`	`Otixa`	`smacks UltiDrgn`
`04:35.29`	`Eiviyn`	`Wha never seen a fps cap`
`04:35.29`	`HeyRevolver`	`woahs`
`04:35.34`	`Eiviyn`	`Are you sure?`
`04:35.49`	`HeyRevolver`	`yeah I'm sure`
`04:35.55`	`Eiviyn`	`Mine isn't capped`
`04:36.03`	`Eiviyn`	`Tested my fps constantly with fraps`
`04:36.11`	`HeyRevolver`	`I get 120 fps if i dont have vsync on when I play every other map`
`04:36.13`	`UltiDrgn`	`...5 bucks says he has vertical sync on`
`04:36.16`	`HeyRevolver`	`but on my map when I test`
`04:36.21`	`Otixa`	`smacks Eiviyn with an empty coffee cup`
`04:36.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`sc2 gives me shit fps`
`04:36.25`	`Otixa`	`Coffee nao! >:\|`
`04:36.34`	`Otixa`	`Your overlord commands you!`
`04:36.40`	`UltiDrgn`	`Mesk... you have SIX 100k models on screen`
`04:36.40`	`Eiviyn`	`Coffee based creatures are immune to coffee attacks`
`04:36.41`	`*** join/#sc2mapster POINTS (~POINTS@ip70-179-30-186.sd.sd.cox.net)`
`04:36.42`	`Triceron`	`yeaaah!`
`04:36.44`	`UltiDrgn`	`OFC SC2 is going to cry`
`04:36.48`	`Triceron`	`i have video!`
`04:36.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`no`
`04:36.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`I mean in a general game`
`04:36.53`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`04:36.54`	`Otixa`	`hax`
`04:36.55`	`LordAbyss`	`triceron loves meh!`
`04:36.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`the models don't impact performance`
`04:37.02`	`Triceron`	`woot woot!`
`04:37.09`	`Otixa`	`Right-- What video?`
`04:37.14`	`UltiDrgn`	`Less Coffee, more Selendis`
`04:37.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`4870x2`
`04:37.22`	`Triceron`	`>:D you'll see`
`04:37.32`	`Otixa`	`0xC0FFEE`
`04:37.35`	`Eiviyn`	`Why Selendis!`
`04:37.45`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, because she's hawt. Durr`
`04:37.48`	`Eiviyn`	`I lost my selendis voice :((`
`04:37.58`	`Eiviyn`	`Iskatu can you paste that again!`
`04:38.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`wut`
`04:38.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`the one I edited?`
`04:38.09`	`Eiviyn`	`The protoss voice thingy`
`04:38.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`www.gameproc.com/meskstuff/What_b.mp3`
`04:38.32`	`Eiviyn`	`!!`
`04:38.38`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, btw`
`04:38.54`	`Otixa`	`Don't talk about l2p issues and people being stupid for not understanding tyour map`
`04:39.04`	`Eiviyn`	`...`
`04:39.07`	`Otixa`	`Because that's YOUR fault for not making the game design work :P`
`04:39.08`	`Eiviyn`	`That isn't my voiceover :((`
`04:39.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`wut`
`04:39.30`	`Eiviyn`	`The real voiceover is more serious`
`04:39.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`did you paste something else?`
`04:39.33`	`Eiviyn`	`Just kept that because yeah`
`04:39.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`I never saw another one`
`04:39.39`	`Eiviyn`	`It made me smile`
`04:39.42`	`Otixa`	`;P`
`04:39.56`	`Eiviyn`	`Nah I mean I wouldn't use that as a serious voiceover iskatu`
`04:40.05`	`Dogmai`	`when you do matching required heroic in a unit group, it references the (hero) flag in the unit data right?`
`04:40.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh`
`04:40.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`you should watch my commentaries`
`04:40.21`	`Otixa`	`ANYWAY`
`04:40.24`	`Otixa`	`COFFEE NOW`
`04:40.32`	`Otixa`	`STOP STALLING ME WITH SHIT THAT INTERESTS ME`
`04:40.33`	`Eiviyn`	`What effects did you use on that sound file to create that?`
`04:40.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`coffeee`
`04:40.35`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`04:40.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`I just reverb -> reverse -> reverb -> reverse`
`04:40.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`my reverbs are custom`
`04:40.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`I also did bg noise cleanup`
`04:41.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`I can add more effects and tweak the reverbs easily`
`04:41.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`protoss are ez`
`04:41.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`something like TGD are much harder`
`04:41.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Audacity can't apply reverbs...`
`04:41.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2jyWSTeCQ8`
`04:41.58`	`Eiviyn`	`Well what I'm after is the Adjutant`
`04:41.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`LOL?`
`04:42.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`the second half of my voice there`
`04:42.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`the plugin I used actually broke`
`04:42.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`and added this tingy effect`
`04:42.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`that's why it sounds weird.`
`04:42.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`anyways, I tried audacity`
`04:42.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`and the ui just bugged the hell out of me`
`04:42.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`and didn't seem nearly as powerful`
`04:42.44`	`Triceron`	`soo close`
`04:42.48`	`Eiviyn`	`Does reverb go under another name`
`04:42.55`	`Eiviyn`	`*does it ever, even`
`04:42.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`there is echo and then there is reverb`
`04:43.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`they tend to be very different`
`04:43.06`	`Triceron`	`omg you have a voice actor to do selendis voice?`
`04:43.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`in audition there is multiple types of reverb depending what you are looking for`
`04:43.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`including DirectX-based reverbs`
`04:43.25`	`Triceron`	`I'll so model her if you have sound`
`04:43.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`if you get me an actor I can make her effects`
`04:43.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`I did female voices for shadow elves but not likely for toss`
`04:44.17`	`Eiviyn`	`What delay factor did you use to create that voice?`
`04:44.24`	`Eiviyn`	`The protoss thingy`
`04:44.33`	`Triceron`	`female shadow elves?`
`04:44.40`	`Eiviyn`	`Also the tremolo on the great destroyer voice is a little much`
`04:44.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`in yours? there is no delay factor in what I used`
`04:45.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`reverb length is 982 on the pre-reverb`
`04:45.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`and some other settings were changed as well`
`04:45.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`tremolo?`
`04:45.22`	`Eiviyn`	`Wrong word`
`04:45.32`	`Eiviyn`	`"Wahwah"? The thing that makes the sound skip from speaker to speaker`
`04:45.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh`
`04:45.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`the echo`
`04:45.43`	`Eiviyn`	`Like, it plays more in the left, then switches to the right`
`04:45.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmm`
`04:45.48`	`Eiviyn`	`Then repeats`
`04:45.54`	`Eiviyn`	`Might be because I use headsets`
`04:46.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`I don't hear that`
`04:46.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`but I think you mean the echo.`
`04:46.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`that can be fixed`
`04:46.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`very easily`
`04:46.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`I can just unify the channels`
`04:46.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`sloppy, but gets it done`
`04:47.25`	`Lilianna`	`:\| Im fighting T-rex now`
`04:47.36`	`Otixa`	`feeds Eiviyn and Lilianna a spoonful of icecream`
`04:47.38`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`04:47.56`	`Triceron`	`O_o`
`04:47.59`	`Triceron`	`creepy!`
`04:48.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwZfF3wEnew`
`04:48.10`	`Otixa`	`None for you!`
`04:48.19`	`Triceron`	`gets jealous`
`04:48.38`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, is that sound from my intro I hear? Â¬_Â¬`
`04:48.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`hm?`
`04:48.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh, you mean the mothership warp-in sound?`
`04:48.56`	`Otixa`	`1st 3sec :P`
`04:49.01`	`Otixa`	`ye`
`04:49.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`I fear I created that intro before you did yours. :)`
`04:49.09`	`Otixa`	`But it's like layered in the exact same way`
`04:49.13`	`Triceron`	`omg that is awesome Iska`
`04:49.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`unless you made yours within the first few weeks of beta`
`04:49.23`	`Triceron`	`very nice acting and effects!`
`04:49.24`	`Otixa`	`No :B`
`04:49.30`	`Otixa`	`Also`
`04:49.34`	`Otixa`	`1st voice`
`04:49.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`I could have used something else but that was the best sound I had at the time`
`04:49.40`	`Otixa`	`Echo hiss :P`
`04:49.42`	`Komodo1138`	`thats cool IskatuMesk`
`04:49.42`	`Eiviyn`	`So I failed at protoss voice`
`04:49.47`	`Eiviyn`	`But I did make a creepy voice!`
`04:49.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Score 1`
`04:49.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`04:49.53`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, show :D`
`04:50.00`	`Triceron`	`i have a buddy who does awesme voicework`
`04:50.05`	`Triceron`	`but he's never online >_<`
`04:50.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's hard for me to predict how some of these voices will sound on other sound setups`
`04:50.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have both headphones and really nice 2.1's and they always sound totally different on either`
`04:50.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`the echoes and S' in particular.`
`04:51.11`	`Otixa`	`feeds IskatuMesk a spoonful of icecream`
`04:51.15`	`Otixa`	`Good work anyway`
`04:51.16`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`04:51.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`icecreammmmmmmmmmm`
`04:51.37`	`IskatuMesk`	Xul`Amon's voice in particular is one I wish I could recreate. In that video is the new one, there was an old one that was way better.
`04:51.42`	`Lilianna`	`he put sleeping pills in the ice cream!`
`04:51.44`	`Lilianna`	`dont eat it!`
`04:51.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`But I lost the settings when I went from win 7 beta to release.`
`04:51.55`	`Otixa`	`lawl`
`04:52.04`	`Otixa`	`feeds Lilianna some moar`
`04:52.06`	`Otixa`	`Shush`
`04:52.10`	`Triceron`	`what is that voicework for Iskatumesk?`
`04:52.14`	`Otixa`	`Sleep, little mortal`
`04:52.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`this shows the effects of some of my sound layering. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk0ZZhYw5io`
`04:52.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`on a basic experimental voice.`
`04:52.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`most of the voices I do are just experiments`
`04:52.44`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Aetos (~nnscript@pool-173-52-119-153.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)`
`04:52.51`	`Triceron`	`so this is just experiment stuff? not for anything?`
`04:52.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`not specifically`
`04:53.01`	`Triceron`	`cuz the script sounds cool too :P`
`04:53.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`some was for an age of wonders 2 conversion`
`04:53.11`	`Triceron`	`ahh`
`04:53.22`	`IskatuMesk`	the characters the voices are for are froim various mods or my novel (Xul`Amon from my novel)
`04:54.16`	`Otixa`	`Dad woke up`
`04:54.24`	`Otixa`	`Gonna go drink coffee with him :D`
`04:54.32`	`Otixa`	`disappears`
`04:54.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`The Great Destroyer is for my campaign concept`
`04:54.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`I must soon attempt Asmodaeus who will be very, very tough`
`04:55.00`	`Eiviyn`	`I think I made something that vaguely resembles kerrigan`
`04:55.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Sabal (624d377d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.77.55.125)`
`04:55.28`	`Sabal`	`Hello`
`04:55.32`	`Triceron`	`ugh`
`04:55.32`	`Komodo1138`	`upload it Eiviyn`
`04:55.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`if you are really interested in my older voice acting`
`04:55.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxyLRQqHr_s`
`04:55.36`	`Triceron`	`my video compression is aweful`
`04:55.40`	`Triceron`	`I'll have to redo it later`
`04:55.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`this is 10 minutes covering many many years of voice acting`
`04:55.45`	`Triceron`	`but feast your eyes!`
`04:55.46`	`Triceron`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9fHu7L6q4M`
`04:56.00`	`Sabal`	`Ive got a question, How would I go about making AI know that lava is bad to walk in, and to be aware of it?`
`04:56.04`	`Triceron`	`and squint hard!`
`04:56.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`looks cool Triceron`
`04:56.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`the tail is a bit stiff`
`04:56.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`but overall very nice`
`04:57.03`	`Triceron`	`thx :)`
`04:57.24`	`Triceron`	`its using crypt lord anims so there isn't a whole lot of tail waggle`
`04:57.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh yeah and youtube butchered the audio quality on that VA video`
`04:57.34`	`Triceron`	`oh there's no audio`
`04:57.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`I meant on mine`
`04:57.44`	`Triceron`	`ooh`
`04:57.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's a huge demo reel I made a long time ago`
`04:58.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`contains a ton of voice responses I did for starcraft mods and such over the years`
`04:58.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`and some random inane stuff`
`04:58.32`	`IskatuMesk`	and my old Xul`Amon voice
`04:58.45`	`Triceron`	`it gets worse over time O_o`
`04:58.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`well the samples will vary in quality`
`04:59.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`some are from 1999-2003`
`04:59.08`	`Triceron`	`oh you went reverse chronological`
`04:59.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`and were using a very cheap mic :p`
`04:59.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`nah`
`04:59.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`they are mostly random`
`04:59.18`	`Triceron`	`ahh`
`04:59.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`no real order`
`04:59.37`	`Eiviyn`	`Actually seems like kerrigan would be pretty easy to voice`
`04:59.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`04:59.52`	`Eiviyn`	`I mean yeah I failed at it, but this is just a random voice clip I played with`
`05:00.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`practice makes perfect!`
`05:00.06`	`Eiviyn`	`If you were aiming to sound like kerrigan it'd really help`
`05:00.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`you know how long I've been at trying TGD's voice?`
`05:00.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`two years.`
`05:00.46`	`Eiviyn`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11113892/Kerriganfail.wav`
`05:00.52`	`Eiviyn`	`This is my awful kerrigan`
`05:01.10`	`Eiviyn`	`I imagine with a deeper and more resounding voice, you know, actually trying to fit the part, it'd be a lot better`
`05:01.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`well your reverb is a bit too "close" if you get the meaning`
`05:01.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`too mechanical sounding`
`05:02.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`I can't understand the voice at all`
`05:02.14`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah well`
`05:02.18`	`Eiviyn`	`If I was going to do a voice`
`05:02.20`	`Eiviyn`	`Like that`
`05:02.22`	`Eiviyn`	`I'd do it slower`
`05:02.24`	`Eiviyn`	`Clearer`
`05:02.25`	`Eiviyn`	`Deeper`
`05:02.33`	`Eiviyn`	`That sound clip just isn't right for it`
`05:02.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`kerrigan in sc2 doesn't have much effects on her`
`05:02.41`	`Eiviyn`	`She also sounds awful`
`05:02.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`05:03.06`	`Eiviyn`	`But yeah`
`05:03.09`	`Eiviyn`	`I was going for mechanical`
`05:03.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`ic`
`05:03.27`	`Eiviyn`	`The line I want is uh`
`05:03.34`	`HeyRevolver`	`that sounds cool`
`05:03.43`	`Eiviyn`	`Basically a slowly spoken ingame tutorial`
`05:03.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`Alrashann originals`
`05:03.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`is a voice I wish I could remake`
`05:03.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`along with the Gorekhan`
`05:03.54`	`HeyRevolver`	`i wouldnt describe it as mechanical but it was a cool effect`
`05:04.40`	`Eiviyn`	`"This is your base. Located here are 6 shops, a repair zone and your team's fortress." over ~10 seconds`
`05:04.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`^_____^`
`05:05.13`	`Eiviyn`	`Spoken in a clear english accent (hopefully) and sounding somewhat like the adjutant`
`05:05.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`mmmm english accents`
`05:05.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`I wish I could pull an English accent`
`05:05.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`that would complete my soul`
`05:06.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`my faked accents aren't even real accents, but they are hilarious`
`05:06.50`	`Otixa`	`back`
`05:07.12`	`HR_`	`how do you set your map category`
`05:07.20`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, what language is that? ;p`
`05:07.24`	`Eiviyn`	`fu!`
`05:07.29`	`Eiviyn`	`Zerg!`
`05:07.34`	`Otixa`	`Sounds like moonspeak`
`05:07.40`	`Otixa`	`xD`
`05:07.48`	`Eiviyn`	`I've never used a bloody sound editor before`
`05:07.52`	`Otixa`	`feeds Eiviyn some more icecream`
`05:08.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`I will be making a video series on Audition in the future`
`05:08.09`	`Otixa`	`Ask Mesk to do it then :P`
`05:08.21`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, you mean you'll be doing it on ModCraft :P`
`05:08.23`	`HR_`	`i made a game variant but now it shows up as custom and racing, and lets you choose one, i just want racing`
`05:08.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`that too`
`05:08.40`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`05:08.42`	`Eiviyn`	`HR_, welcome to my world and the past 6 hours of my life`
`05:08.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`:D`
`05:09.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`I made some zergy voices in that video too.`
`05:09.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`fourth quarter`
`05:09.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`haven't attempted any since then but I can probably still do it.`
`05:09.32`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, which one?`
`05:09.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`and by voices I mean the gluttural stuff, but not crappy ones`
`05:09.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxyLRQqHr_s`
`05:09.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`a big demo I created a while ago of all my hold voices`
`05:10.01`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Terin (~Terin@dhcp-vlan3242-193-224-105.wireless.uic.edu)`
`05:10.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`for starcraft 1 conversions and such`
`05:10.04`	`Demo`	`YOU CREATED A BIG ME?`
`05:10.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`rofl`
`05:10.19`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`05:10.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes, yes I did.`
`05:10.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`Gorekhan and Alrashann originals are my personal favorites.`
`05:10.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`The others vary in quality`
`05:10.49`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, that's quite win :D`
`05:11.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`I do plan to make some voice packs for Mapster sometime`
`05:11.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`general stuff, like advisors, notifications, ect`
`05:11.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`that people can use in their maps`
`05:11.35`	`Otixa`	`No more icecream :<`
`05:11.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`probably no time soon though`
`05:11.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`depression >>> voice acting`
`05:12.15`	`Otixa`	`Prozac > ???? > PROFIT!!!`
`05:12.24`	`Eiviyn`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11113892/Inventory%20terrible.wav`
`05:12.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`unfortunately drugs are having no effect`
`05:12.28`	`Eiviyn`	`Does that sound clear to you`
`05:12.48`	`Eiviyn`	`I mean it's a little too clean that some of the voice is shaved off but there'll be game sounds ontop of it`
`05:12.56`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, up the output`
`05:13.04`	`Eiviyn`	`Turn your damn volume up!`
`05:13.10`	`Otixa`	`it is up Â¬_Â¬`
`05:13.22`	`Eiviyn`	`Loud enough for me`
`05:13.25`	`Otixa`	`Also, your voice is pretty cute :>`
`05:13.28`	`Eiviyn`	`There's this awful whistle in the back of it`
`05:13.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah you want to record a bit higher`
`05:13.33`	`Eiviyn`	`That sounds mechanical`
`05:13.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`if I open this in audition the sound peaks are like maybe 20% at highest`
`05:13.44`	`Eiviyn`	`Like talking through a tube`
`05:13.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`if I boost the volume it makes your S's really loud`
`05:13.57`	`Huesy`	`Abbott loses :D`
`05:14.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmmm how can I reduce the volume of esses`
`05:14.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`there was a way I can do this`
`05:14.47`	`Eiviyn`	`Try high pass`
`05:14.49`	`Otixa`	`Can't you like averege the volume? :P`
`05:14.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`not without mangling it`
`05:15.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`there is distortion in the background that becomes very noticable with volume normalization`
`05:15.15`	`Otixa`	`:<`
`05:15.30`	`Otixa`	`Just blame Eiviyn`
`05:15.35`	`Otixa`	`It works for me :D`
`05:15.41`	`Otixa`	`blames`
`05:15.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`there we go... EQ filters to the reskew`
`05:15.50`	`Eiviyn`	`Well`
`05:15.56`	`Eiviyn`	`Hold on`
`05:16.25`	`Eiviyn`	`Why do you want this stuff as .wav, the files are huge :((`
`05:16.38`	`Eiviyn`	`I end up converting everything to .wma for transfer`
`05:16.42`	`Otixa`	`Because wav is lossless >:[`
`05:16.49`	`Otixa`	`nub`
`05:16.50`	`Eiviyn`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11113892/3%28Inventory%29.mp3`
`05:16.55`	`Eiviyn`	`That's the original file`
`05:17.01`	`Eiviyn`	`Before I started breaking it`
`05:17.16`	`Demo`	`why is there a girl talking in my ear`
`05:17.27`	`Demo`	`I need to stop clicking links`
`05:17.33`	`Otixa`	`Demo, because you need an inventory`
`05:17.49`	`Demo`	`2 screens so I'm playing sc and reading this`
`05:17.54`	`Demo`	`and every link I click`
`05:18.13`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`05:18.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`I love your voice, with some slow speaking epic dialogue I could blow minds`
`05:18.34`	`Otixa`	`Yah, cute voice is cute`
`05:18.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`www.gameproc.com/meskstuff/Inventoryterrible_b.mp3`
`05:18.41`	`Resinate`	`AHHAHA`
`05:18.44`	`Eiviyn`	`wtb clear english accent`
`05:18.52`	`Resinate`	`i could make the most epic char select ever made`
`05:19.03`	`Lilianna`	`yay for english accents!`
`05:19.10`	`Lilianna`	`but you have a nice accent too Eiviyn`
`05:19.19`	`Eiviyn`	`That's scary`
`05:19.25`	`Otixa`	`pats Lilianna`
`05:19.27`	`Eiviyn`	`Try uh`
`05:19.28`	`Lilianna`	`o.o`
`05:19.31`	`Eiviyn`	`Altering the speed`
`05:19.37`	`Eiviyn`	`Then compensating with higher pitch`
`05:19.54`	`Resinate`	`that girl sounds fking hawt`
`05:19.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`I can use a directx thing to alter the speed without touching the pitch I believe`
`05:19.57`	`Eiviyn`	`It should retain the voice but make it slower`
`05:20.13`	`Resinate`	`def azn`
`05:20.21`	`Eiviyn`	`Resinate...`
`05:20.26`	`Otixa`	`shoves Resinate into a pit`
`05:20.30`	`Resinate`	`lol`
`05:20.31`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Zarakk (~chatzilla@213-67-96-103-no52.tbcn.telia.com)`
`05:20.38`	`Otixa`	`Only I get to pick on my minions >:[`
`05:20.53`	`Resinate`	`anyways`
`05:20.59`	`Resinate`	`i just word of a lagless mod for WASD`
`05:21.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`love these damn directx effects`
`05:21.08`	`Triceron`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCcDdeosab0 reposted my vid in my channel`
`05:21.12`	`Resinate`	`im using the female from UT2004`
`05:21.16`	`Resinate`	`for my voices`
`05:21.23`	`SycoPrime`	`Resinate: Try to install a grammar mod for english.`
`05:21.31`	`Resinate`	`this sint school`
`05:21.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah I could use any amount of the voices I got from a number of games`
`05:21.33`	`Resinate`	`isnt*`
`05:21.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`but if I can get a good actor`
`05:21.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`much more preferable`
`05:21.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`because my lines are always longer and more exotic`
`05:22.16`	`Eiviyn`	`I have no idea what you did to that sound file, but it sounds awesome :((`
`05:22.24`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, nice, but the quality makes me sad :<`
`05:22.40`	`Triceron`	`it's only decent at 720`
`05:22.55`	`Triceron`	`I'll need to capture a fullscreen vid later`
`05:23.01`	`Otixa`	`Yeh, that's what I watched it at :P`
`05:23.42`	`Otixa`	`QUICK`
`05:23.46`	`Otixa`	`STAB YOURSELF FOR SAFETY`
`05:23.52`	`Lilianna`	`You killed it Triceron!`
`05:24.08`	`Triceron`	`:O`
`05:24.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`www.gameproc.com/meskstuff/3(Inventory)_B.mp3`
`05:24.10`	`Eiviyn`	`needs to steal IskatuMesk's sound manipulation experience`
`05:24.35`	`Otixa`	`Echo hiss!`
`05:24.36`	`Otixa`	`Bad!`
`05:24.38`	`Otixa`	`rages`
`05:24.44`	`Eiviyn`	`The first one was definitely better`
`05:24.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes the high volume esses are a bit to deal with`
`05:25.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`but what I can do is create a custom dynamics processing profile`
`05:25.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'm also trying diferent reverbs, I can change those as well`
`05:25.21`	`Otixa`	`hisses in Eiviyn's ear`
`05:25.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`they will effect how much of the pitch is reverbed`
`05:25.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`they are based on my voice which can have high S' until I started using dynamics processing`
`05:25.55`	`Eiviyn`	`Well as you probably guessed that file wasn't really recorded with effects in mind`
`05:25.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`so this is the same kind of thing but with a higher voice in general`
`05:26.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah`
`05:26.04`	`Otixa`	`downs the rest of his coffee`
`05:26.16`	`Otixa`	`Power... Overwhelming...`
`05:26.18`	`Demo`	`iskatu why did you do that`
`05:26.19`	`Otixa`	`@_@`
`05:26.28`	`Demo`	`now it's a robot`
`05:26.30`	`Otixa`	`shoots lightning out of his eyes`
`05:26.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`I assume you are referring to the time stretch`
`05:26.51`	`Otixa`	`shoots lightning at Demo`
`05:26.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes that is a side effect of using that`
`05:27.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`when using reverb it's always a good idea to have aslower speaking sample to start with`
`05:27.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`as the time stretch will dilate diction`
`05:27.34`	`Eiviyn`	`What program did you say you were using for this?`
`05:27.38`	`Resinate`	`mesk`
`05:27.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`audition`
`05:27.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`specifically version 1.5`
`05:27.50`	`Resinate`	`that voice sounds like a gold farmer lol`
`05:27.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`:D`
`05:27.57`	`Otixa`	`XD`
`05:28.03`	`Resinate`	`i know i buy`
`05:28.04`	`Resinate`	`and they call`
`05:28.05`	`Resinate`	`XD`
`05:28.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qABftnZNDto`
`05:28.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`this is a video I made for another game`
`05:28.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`shows Audition a bit`
`05:28.24`	`Otixa`	`Soundtrack of the now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDoDRqC7KHA`
`05:28.42`	`Otixa`	`And yes, that's the ModCraft intro music :P`
`05:29.08`	`Otixa`	`I need to come up with a decent intro animation ._.`
`05:29.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`I got an animation idea for my campaign logo but it will take some doing`
`05:29.55`	`Otixa`	`It always does :P`
`05:30.04`	`Triceron`	`lens flares and star wipes`
`05:30.07`	`Eiviyn`	`Going to hate having to make my map logo...`
`05:30.11`	`Otixa`	`The sc2mapster intro took me like 4 hours <_<`
`05:30.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`well I mean this is going to be a mess of fire and burning and light`
`05:30.23`	`Eiviyn`	`Just thought sod it and used... ooh, yeah I could use the sc2mapster one`
`05:30.33`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, do it!`
`05:30.42`	`Eiviyn`	`Not intro, logo`
`05:30.46`	`Otixa`	`It took a lot of effort >:\|`
`05:30.48`	`Otixa`	`BAH`
`05:30.51`	`Eiviyn`	`!!`
`05:30.51`	`Otixa`	`rages`
`05:30.58`	`Otixa`	`stabs Eiviyn`
`05:31.11`	`Eiviyn`	`cannot be stabbed, is made of coffee`
`05:31.17`	`Triceron`	`dies`
`05:31.20`	`Otixa`	`drinks Eiviyn`
`05:31.23`	`Otixa`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsuziDiuG0Q`
`05:31.25`	`Otixa`	`Intro!`
`05:31.26`	`Otixa`	`Good!`
`05:31.28`	`Otixa`	`Roar!`
`05:31.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`anyways that video shows the basic functions of Audition's interface`
`05:31.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`and explains a bit about audio and formats`
`05:31.59`	`Resinate`	`ROFL!!!`
`05:32.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`most of it can be applied to audacity in a theoritical kind of way but the uis are fairly different mechanically`
`05:32.12`	`Resinate`	`i could make a techno song using pick up sounds in UT2004`
`05:32.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`:D`
`05:32.21`	`Otixa`	`Altho`
`05:32.29`	`Otixa`	`I guess you can have just the logo ;p`
`05:32.39`	`Otixa`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/SC2/sc2mapster_anim.png`
`05:33.18`	`Resinate`	`guys`
`05:33.23`	`Resinate`	`can u make sounds play off a unit?`
`05:33.33`	`Resinate`	`like if someone is near u, u can hear it`
`05:33.35`	`Otixa`	`Nowai!`
`05:33.43`	`Otixa`	`explodes`
`05:33.47`	`Otixa`	`unexplodes`
`05:33.51`	`Otixa`	`implodes`
`05:34.00`	`Triceron`	`okay I think the problem is vegas compressing`
`05:34.03`	`Otixa`	`I may be a bit hyper today Â¬_Â¬`
`05:34.09`	`Komodo1138`	`see Otixa turn into a black hole`
`05:34.09`	`Triceron`	`whats a good compression and format for video for youtube?`
`05:34.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`collects the pieces and stuffs them into a singularity`
`05:34.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`I use x264`
`05:34.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`through megui`
`05:34.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`1920x1200 as high quality as I can get`
`05:34.45`	`Otixa`	`radiates negatively charged quarks inside the quantum singularity`
`05:34.55`	`Komodo1138`	`well time to get some zzzz. have a good one guys and gals`
`05:34.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`utub brings that down to 1080p`
`05:35.02`	`Otixa`	`makes the quantum singularity implode`
`05:35.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`then all is well`
`05:35.09`	`Otixa`	`recreates te big bang!`
`05:35.11`	`Otixa`	`\o/`
`05:35.17`	`Triceron`	`actuall wait, it's actually the crap video quality. nm.`
`05:35.34`	`Otixa`	`rules the empty universe by himself`
`05:35.41`	`Eiviyn`	`Making a voice sound anything even remotely like the adjutent is hell`
`05:35.42`	`Otixa`	`creates life`
`05:35.49`	`Huesy`	`Australia's new PM = Female Ranga :)`
`05:35.56`	`Otixa`	`watches his new sock puppets grow`
`05:35.57`	`Zanam`	`is giddy cause he finished his Intro.`
`05:36.07`	`Resinate`	`OMG`
`05:36.12`	`Resinate`	`i could have soo much fun with my map`
`05:36.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`Eiviyn once you understand the fundamentals of how the effects alter the voice, you can then better create a voice with the effects in mind`
`05:36.25`	`Triceron`	`is that innuendo?`
`05:36.32`	`Triceron`	`watching your sock puppets grow`
`05:36.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`for example once I figured out how stretch effected flanges on my voice, I was able to make amazing voices like the LTX 133`
`05:36.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Gohla (~user@53543F60.cable.casema.nl)`
`05:36.42`	`Otixa`	`Noe`
`05:36.43`	`Zanam`	`I pretty much have a male adjutant that talks through my 60 second intro.. wasnt too hard to do`
`05:36.45`	`Otixa`	`I am your new God`
`05:36.48`	`Eiviyn`	`The adjutant voice, that's just a really minor reverb on that, right?`
`05:36.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`a certain flange gets stretched and makes that growly sound`
`05:37.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`most of sc2's protoss are fairly light on effects... blizzard just tends to use default effects lul`
`05:37.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`the initial reverb is a bit more echoey and the last is not so much iirc`
`05:37.35`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Aussie123 (~Aussie123@202.174.35.5)`
`05:37.41`	`Aussie123`	`OMG australia is saved`
`05:37.49`	`Otixa`	`no`
`05:37.54`	`*** join/#sc2mapster currydevil (6027b4a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.39.180.160)`
`05:37.57`	`Otixa`	`kicks Aussie123 into a huge pit`
`05:37.57`	`Aussie123`	`NBN ftw`
`05:38.20`	`Aussie123`	`ur aus?`
`05:38.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`I grow SLEEPY`
`05:38.31`	`Otixa`	`No`
`05:38.38`	`Otixa`	`kicks IskatuMesk into a huge pit aswell`
`05:38.38`	`Aussie123`	`cant believe anyone even voted for that ass`
`05:38.44`	`Aussie123`	`abbott`
`05:38.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`eats the pit`
`05:38.50`	`Aussie123`	`lying ass`
`05:38.52`	`Otixa`	`D:`
`05:38.56`	`Otixa`	`My pit... :<`
`05:39.16`	`Otixa`	`THIS IS NO LONGER SPARTAAAAAA`
`05:39.19`	`Otixa`	`D:<`
`05:39.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`ok why am I getting so many messages about Australia`
`05:39.27`	`Otixa`	`This is why we can't have nice things`
`05:39.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`what just happened`
`05:39.36`	`Cryosis`	`THIS IS.. CAKE TOWN!`
`05:39.47`	`Otixa`	`The cake is a lie, same as Dune :(`
`05:39.55`	`Otixa`	`shakes fist at Eiviyn`
`05:39.57`	`Cryosis`	`Dune is a lie?`
`05:39.58`	`Otixa`	`Bad minion!`
`05:40.07`	`Otixa`	`Yes :<`
`05:40.17`	`Triceron`	`that was so not Dune`
`05:40.19`	`Eiviyn`	`New Dune game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxyLRQqHr_s`
`05:40.31`	`Otixa`	`XD`
`05:40.44`	`Aussie123`	`Julia gillard is australias new PM thats wat just appened`
`05:40.45`	`Cryosis`	`hah`
`05:40.47`	`Aussie123`	`happened`
`05:40.55`	`Otixa`	`turbosmooths Eiviyn's face`
`05:40.58`	`Cryosis`	`Is that good?`
`05:41.00`	`Cryosis`	`or bad?`
`05:41.01`	`Aussie123`	`100mb internet for australia`
`05:41.11`	`Cryosis`	`I don't keep up the land down under`
`05:41.15`	`Aussie123`	`and 1gb internet for the rich people`
`05:41.20`	`Cryosis`	`too many things down there will kill you`
`05:41.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`is she hot`
`05:41.27`	`Aussie123`	`LOL no`
`05:41.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`oh`
`05:41.31`	`Resinate`	`HAHHA`
`05:41.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`well`
`05:41.33`	`Aussie123`	`shes a daywalker`
`05:41.34`	`Otixa`	`XD`
`05:41.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`sucks for the kiwis :(`
`05:41.40`	`Resinate`	`i bet no one ever thought of making a taunt system`
`05:41.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`time to berate one of my aus buddies`
`05:41.55`	`Eiviyn`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11113892/Adjutantattempt.wav - it's not perfect and that isn't the tutorial file but it's at least in the right ballpark imo`
`05:41.58`	`Otixa`	`Resinate, I already have a patent for it, you homo!`
`05:42.06`	`Otixa`	`You can't do shit! HAHAHAHA`
`05:42.17`	`Resinate`	`?`
`05:42.22`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, no. Bad :\|`
`05:42.28`	`Otixa`	`Resinate, see what I did thar? :D`
`05:42.29`	`Resinate`	`i alrdy have the system made`
`05:42.34`	`Resinate`	`just importing sounds`
`05:42.45`	`Otixa`	`taunts Resinate`
`05:42.45`	`Aussie123`	`gillard winning so nice, that abbot talked like he had it in the bag`
`05:42.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`still fairly mechanical sounding`
`05:42.50`	`Resinate`	`i mean in sc2`
`05:42.51`	`Resinate`	`u newb`
`05:42.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`it sounds like an echo and not a reverb actually`
`05:42.55`	`Eiviyn`	`It's meant to be mechanical sounding`
`05:42.56`	`Otixa`	`NoU`
`05:43.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`well I mean`
`05:43.07`	`Eiviyn`	`I just want a really slight reverb`
`05:43.11`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's pretty hard for me to pick apart words`
`05:43.12`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, I can't understand a word you said thar ;p`
`05:43.16`	`Eiviyn`	`But that's the slightest I can get`
`05:43.21`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah, it'd be spoken slower and clearer`
`05:43.27`	`Eiviyn`	`Ignore the voice`
`05:43.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`I think thys is why I hated audacity :p`
`05:43.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`other than the confusing as balls mouse controls`
`05:43.49`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, just get soundbooth >:\|`
`05:43.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Rodrigo (464f4549@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.79.69.73)`
`05:43.51`	`Eiviyn`	`The noise remover is awful too`
`05:44.07`	`Eiviyn`	`So anyway`
`05:44.11`	`Eiviyn`	`Recap of my last 7 hours`
`05:44.12`	`Otixa`	`Anyway`
`05:44.13`	`Rodrigo`	`I need a new starcraft joke for Platform Defense.`
`05:44.16`	`Otixa`	`Gonna go shower`
`05:44.17`	`Eiviyn`	`1-3: wondering why my map won't upload`
`05:44.27`	`Eiviyn`	`4-5, bitching at why the lobby isn't synched with the game`
`05:44.31`	`Rodrigo`	`============================== I need a new starcraft joke for Platform Defense. ==============================`
`05:44.33`	`Eiviyn`	`6-7; making funny voices`
`05:44.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`:D`
`05:44.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`want to know my day?`
`05:44.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`my whole day?`
`05:44.49`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, you spent AT LEAST an hour trolling me with Dune ;P`
`05:45.07`	`Eiviyn`	`Grabbing youtube links and typing half a sentence does not consume a full hour`
`05:45.09`	`Eiviyn`	`And sure Mesk`
`05:45.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`I woke up at 10am, send HKS a model to try to fix (and he did, woot), and then I spend 10 hours straight looking for my Mirror's Edge gunshot sound rips unsuccessfully`
`05:45.17`	`Otixa`	`Rodrigo, ======================================== OH REALLY?!?! ===============================================`
`05:45.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`so I give up`
`05:45.29`	`Otixa`	`kicks Rodrigo in the face`
`05:45.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`spend 1 hour sitting here sweating like a pig in 100 degree heat`
`05:45.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`then I spend the rest of my time`
`05:45.46`	`HR_`	`anybody wanna play SC Rally on US, its fricken awesome battle racing`
`05:45.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`doing nothing`
`05:45.50`	`Rodrigo`	`============================== Really! ==============================`
`05:45.54`	`Otixa`	`Anyway, shower tiems`
`05:45.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`so today was pretty much a total waste`
`05:46.04`	`HR_`	`everyone who plays it says its awesome`
`05:46.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`much like every day`
`05:46.14`	`Triceron`	`haha`
`05:46.22`	`Triceron`	`I made progress!`
`05:46.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`it is now 10:46pm and I haven't gotten shit all since I woke up`
`05:46.41`	`Rodrigo`	`No one suggested good jokes`
`05:46.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`here's a joke`
`05:46.49`	`HR_`	`i really want to find 8 people to play a bunch of games`
`05:46.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`guess who?`
`05:46.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`CHICKEN POO!`
`05:46.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`lololol`
`05:46.56`	`IskatuMesk`	`guess what?`
`05:46.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`CHICKEN BUTT!`
`05:46.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`ahahaha`
`05:47.04`	`Rodrigo`	`I liked the one "You must purchase additional copies" but it's too strong to place in the loading screen, yet`
`05:47.42`	`Rodrigo`	`"Cant play with my friend in Asia" "You must purchase additional copies"`
`05:48.00`	`HR_`	`not only to get it up the list but because its pretty fun`
`05:48.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`that's only funny for the first few seconds until you realize how terrible the implications are`
`05:48.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`then you just cry`
`05:48.15`	`Rodrigo`	`lol`
`05:48.20`	`Triceron`	`there's not a lot of 8player maps are there?`
`05:48.29`	`HR_`	`ive only gotten 2-4 people at a time, the rest are cpu drivers`
`05:48.42`	`Rodrigo`	`sotis is 10 players`
`05:48.48`	`Rodrigo`	`debates is 8 players`
`05:48.50`	`HR_`	`im thinking i should up the player limit to 14, but only fill up to 8 with cpus`
`05:48.56`	`Zanam`	`Rodrigo, how about... BSG Starcraft: You must construct additional Cylons.`
`05:49.08`	`Rodrigo`	`Zaham, I dont get it`
`05:49.16`	`Zanam`	`battlestar galactica reference`
`05:49.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`I should have probably at least tried to rig my BC with missile batteries or something`
`05:49.24`	`Eiviyn`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11113892/Attempt2.wav - how is this?`
`05:49.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`or get this model sequenced`
`05:49.29`	`Rodrigo`	`Zaham, never heard of it`
`05:49.37`	`Eiviyn`	`Again ignore the words, they'll be different`
`05:49.44`	`Resinate`	`guys`
`05:49.49`	`Resinate`	`whos in BNET US REALM`
`05:49.49`	`Triceron`	`unintelligable :S`
`05:49.51`	`HR_`	`cant wait til they make ingame chat so i can pick up some players in there`
`05:50.00`	`HR_`	`at least enough to get 1 full game`
`05:50.05`	`Resinate`	`HR`
`05:50.06`	`Resinate`	`go in game`
`05:50.09`	`HR_`	`im on US`
`05:50.10`	`Resinate`	`i need ur help`
`05:50.12`	`Resinate`	`i kow`
`05:50.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`honestly? it still sounds very similar to the last one`
`05:50.15`	`Resinate`	`i usee u online`
`05:50.17`	`Triceron`	`can't understand a word`
`05:50.22`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah, it is`
`05:50.23`	`Resinate`	`come in game`
`05:50.24`	`Rodrigo`	`======= I need a starcraft joke =/ =========`
`05:50.27`	`Eiviyn`	`Just reduced the reverb even more`
`05:50.32`	`Rodrigo`	`I need to update the game, but all jokes people send to me suck`
`05:50.40`	`Eiviyn`	`I think it's close to what I want it to be though`
`05:50.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`I could set you up with some ideal reverbs if you get me the lines you want`
`05:50.44`	`Eiviyn`	`Just spoken slower and clearer`
`05:51.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`but not tonight, I'm gonna pass out`
`05:51.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`if you have AIM and ever want to send me them you can`
`05:51.12`	`Resinate`	`rod`
`05:51.19`	`Eiviyn`	`Noes, I don't`
`05:51.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`ic`
`05:51.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`msn?`
`05:51.29`	`Eiviyn`	`Same thing, no?`
`05:51.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`meh`
`05:51.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`well`
`05:51.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`hopefully I remember to sign in here then :p`
`05:51.56`	`Eiviyn`	`haha, I'm in no rush`
`05:52.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`you can always pm me on mapster`
`05:52.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`or on youtube (I added you as a friend)`
`05:52.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`mancatcher`
`05:52.16`	`Eiviyn`	`I'm not even sure that uh`
`05:52.22`	`Eiviyn`	`I'll be able to fit the files in`
`05:52.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`well 10 seconds of dialogue isn't too big`
`05:52.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`you can save as mp3`
`05:52.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`or ogg`
`05:52.40`	`Eiviyn`	`10 sec *8`
`05:52.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster SuraklinSC2 (~Suraklin@CPE0080c8df268d-CM00186851be32.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`05:52.51`	`Eiviyn`	`Probably still end up as 3-4mb`
`05:52.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`128kbps mp3 isn't too big`
`05:52.57`	`Eiviyn`	`Even as mp3`
`05:53.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`let me see`
`05:53.33`	`Eiviyn`	`The Ses are insane too, yeah`
`05:53.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`your last file`
`05:53.40`	`Eiviyn`	`Purchasssssssse`
`05:53.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`as 128kbps mp3`
`05:53.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`is 200kb`
`05:53.47`	`Rodrigo`	`Is Sixen there?`
`05:54.00`	`Eiviyn`	`Shouldn't be too bad then`
`05:54.07`	`Sixen`	`hi`
`05:54.10`	`Sixen`	`Hey Iskatu`
`05:54.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`sup`
`05:54.26`	`Rodrigo`	`hi Sixen. Have you played Platform Defense?`
`05:55.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`also Eiviyn`
`05:55.09`	`Sixen`	`nope`
`05:55.12`	`IskatuMesk`	`that's the file without any cutting`
`05:55.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`there is silence and such at the beginning and end you can cut`
`05:55.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`will reduce the filesize a little bit`
`05:55.31`	`Eiviyn`	`True`
`05:55.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's not huge`
`05:55.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`but it's a bit`
`05:55.48`	`Rodrigo`	`Sixen, everyday I add a new starcraft-related joke on the loading screen of the map. However, I have no decent jokes for now. So, I thought you could have some starcraft jokes to feature.`
`05:55.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`see now something like my campaign`
`05:55.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`or like Oracle's campaign`
`05:56.02`	`Sixen`	`Yo Mommaship is so fat...`
`05:56.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`we're looking at hundreds and hundreds of megs for voices alone very easily`
`05:56.07`	`Rodrigo`	`lol`
`05:56.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`his could be GB`
`05:56.30`	`Eiviyn`	`I'm just trying to pour everything in not making a map like dota where new players are shunned`
`05:56.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`yeah.`
`05:56.43`	`Eiviyn`	`I think a short, voiced, clear tutorial would do wonders`
`05:56.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`05:56.49`	`Rodrigo`	`I would feature as "by Sixen from Sc2Mapster"`
`05:57.02`	`Rodrigo`	`I just need a joke :P`
`05:57.12`	`Zanam`	`rodrigo, perhaps... 'Breaking News: Thor Pilot elected CA Governor"`
`05:57.13`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kalekin (~nnscript@41-132-39-28.dsl.mweb.co.za)`
`05:57.23`	`Rodrigo`	`Zaham, I dont get it. :P`
`05:57.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`in my campaign everything will be vocalized, and the first mission is basically a vocalized intro to the TPS system, magic, psionics, and other stuff I'll have. Although my campaign will be private, I'm a perfectionist`
`05:57.31`	`Zanam`	`you must not be a US'er eh`
`05:57.39`	`Rodrigo`	`canada :P`
`05:57.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`:D`
`05:57.56`	`Zanam`	`california's governor, arnold schwarzenegger, the thor pilot sounds and looks just like him`
`05:57.59`	`Eiviyn`	`...I'm from the UK and I get it`
`05:58.05`	`Rodrigo`	`lol`
`05:58.10`	`Rodrigo`	`hhahahaha`
`05:58.15`	`Rodrigo`	`HAAHAHAH`
`05:58.39`	`Rodrigo`	`ok I will add that one if Sixen does not send a better one in the next 30 seconds :O`
`05:58.42`	`Rodrigo`	`:P`
`05:58.42`	`HR_`	`im about to run another racing game if anyone wants to join on US`
`05:58.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmmm I might give Asmodaeus' voice a quick try before I head to sleep`
`05:58.47`	`Sixen`	`:)`
`05:59.11`	`HR_`	`rodrigo i played your map once just to help you beat nexus wars`
`05:59.17`	`Rodrigo`	`Zanam, whats your character name? want me to add ur id together?`
`05:59.19`	`Zanam`	`honored. should be joke of the day on debates though, not platform defense. blizz really does hate debates I think`
`05:59.27`	`HR_`	`even tho i think my map is better than both of them`
`05:59.35`	`Rodrigo`	`haha, thanks HR_, but its impossible to beat NExus Wars when the first 20 pages are nexus wars`
`05:59.36`	`Zanam`	`nah just Zanam will do. might want to do 'thor pilot becomes CA governor' for better grammar though`
`05:59.44`	`Eiviyn`	`Surely everyone thinks thier map is the best`
`05:59.53`	`Rodrigo`	`HR_ I also think Debates is better than both of them, so we are even.`
`06:00.03`	`Zanam`	`mine isn't the best... but its the best i could do in 3 weeks for the contest, and I'm damn proud of it`
`06:00.06`	`Eiviyn`	`Probably why so many wc3 mappers hated dota`
`06:00.11`	`Eiviyn`	`Refusal to accept`
`06:00.11`	`HR_`	`especially because its hard to get into some maps, to fully understand them`
`06:00.19`	`HR_`	`people need more instructions`
`06:00.27`	`Eiviyn`	`If a map is hard to get into, then it's poorly designed`
`06:00.28`	`Rodrigo`	`I made Platform Defense in 5 damn days. It was my first map, and now it's the 2nd most played map on battle.net`
`06:00.28`	`Zanam`	`i just finished up my 60 second intro, fully voiced, and completely explains everything you need to know about how to play`
`06:00.29`	`HR_`	`my map is dead simple tho`
`06:00.47`	`HR_`	`gas and steer and fire`
`06:00.52`	`HR_`	`and radio`
`06:01.11`	`HR_`	`someone should make a grand theft auto map`
`06:01.17`	`Eiviyn`	`Rodrigo, I think everyone knows that. You've been repeating it every 5 minutes for the past 3 days.`
`06:01.37`	`Rodrigo`	`Eiviyn, this is the second time I say that, and the first time was here`
`06:01.42`	`HR_`	`like a driving map except you can get out and walk, and have some indoor sequences too`
`06:01.47`	`Eiviyn`	`Totally untrue`
`06:01.49`	`Zanam`	`I'll bet they have some kind of system in place to reset the popularity every few weeks, it seems like it's happened a few times since launch`
`06:02.00`	`Eiviyn`	`Popularity is reset weekly`
`06:02.04`	`Rodrigo`	`they reset like every 10 days`
`06:02.08`	`HR_`	`make it epic with save codes in the data bank`
`06:02.13`	`Rodrigo`	`but it doesnt work`
`06:02.17`	`Eiviyn`	`Save codes...`
`06:02.21`	`Rodrigo`	`I can bet my map will be on the top again in seconds`
`06:02.22`	`Eiviyn`	`Ugh`
`06:02.47`	`Eiviyn`	`Twice in 2 minutes Rodrigo`
`06:02.47`	`Rodrigo`	`I bet my map will pass nexus wars in the next reset`
`06:02.52`	`Eiviyn`	`3 times`
`06:02.54`	`HR_`	`lf3m to battle race on US`
`06:03.08`	`Zanam`	`Haha, i think i've got his new name Eiviyn...`
`06:03.10`	`Rodrigo`	`Eiviyn what are u talking about`
`06:03.15`	`Zanam`	`RodrEgo`
`06:03.26`	`Eiviyn`	`haha`
`06:03.35`	`Rodrigo`	`lol`
`06:03.38`	`Triceron`	`lol`
`06:03.43`	`Rodrigo`	`ok I will stop talking about me, lets talk about you`
`06:03.48`	`Rodrigo`	`what do you think of me?`
`06:03.55`	`Eiviyn`	`4 more days until hopefully some quality bnet maps are up due to contest restrictions lifted`
`06:04.10`	`Zanam`	`i'm sure there will be a flood. I'm posting mine right on the 12th`
`06:04.20`	`Triceron`	`I think I'm gonna go play some nexus wars`
`06:04.24`	`Triceron`	`just to boost it tot he top`
`06:04.27`	`Rodrigo`	`hey`
`06:04.31`	`Rodrigo`	`I forgot to add the joke`
`06:04.32`	`Zanam`	`I'm sure I have absolutely no shot at winning but... $5000 would mean the world to me right now`
`06:04.55`	`Rodrigo`	`Zanam, what was the joke again? and your battle.net name?`
`06:04.56`	`Eiviyn`	`With how much time I've spent on this damn map, $5,000 would be about bloody right`
`06:05.23`	`Rodrigo`	`$5,000 is not enough`
`06:05.24`	`Triceron`	`you guys really entering the blizz map contest?`
`06:05.30`	`Rodrigo`	`I'd rather win 1 cent from each map they sell, because they will make milions`
`06:05.32`	`Resinate`	`im sure my map will somewhere on top`
`06:05.33`	`Resinate`	`lol`
`06:05.39`	`Eiviyn`	`"sell"`
`06:05.40`	`Zanam`	`Rodrigo, 'Breaking News: Thor Pilot Becomes CA Governor' , can credit it to Zanam`
`06:05.52`	`Eiviyn`	`They aren't selling any maps`
`06:05.52`	`Rodrigo`	`ok thanks`
`06:06.12`	`Rodrigo`	`Eiviyn, yes they will`
`06:06.17`	`Eiviyn`	`Says who`
`06:06.22`	`Eiviyn`	`And why would they`
`06:06.24`	`Rodrigo`	`they said a long time ago`
`06:06.35`	`Eiviyn`	`This isn't anything to do with premium maps`
`06:06.36`	`Rodrigo`	`that they would have packages with custom maps that you buy`
`06:06.40`	`Rodrigo`	`premium maps`
`06:06.41`	`Zanam`	`Triceron, hell yes I'm entering. Like I said... $5k is huge to me, and I think I've got a decent map here. My only worry is that there are people who started developing their maps before the contest, saw it was happening, and just decided to delay posting and enter a months-long project into it`
`06:07.04`	`Eiviyn`	`Indeed, my project has been going since May`
`06:07.07`	`Rodrigo`	`well, why they want an unreleased maps? to sell the premium maps without anyone having illegal copies of it.`
`06:07.19`	`Triceron`	`if you're really mapping for the money...`
`06:07.21`	`Eiviyn`	`They want unreleased maps so that people at blizzcon have new content to play`
`06:07.24`	`Triceron`	`there's other ways of making $5k...`
`06:07.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`there's a little bit of static. www.gameproc.com/meskstuff/as1.mp3`
`06:07.38`	`Rodrigo`	`Eiviyn, maybe, maybe not`
`06:07.45`	`Zanam`	`Yeah see, there's a significant disadvantage. It's not a 4-week project competition any more`
`06:07.55`	`Eiviyn`	`Also, the owner themself would have an "illigal" copy`
`06:08.00`	`Zanam`	`it's my 3-week project vs something that's been in development for months`
`06:08.18`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah well if your idea is solid`
`06:08.35`	`Eiviyn`	`I've spent 3 weeks polishing my map and I'm still not happy with it, but hey, too late now`
`06:08.50`	`Eiviyn`	`At least I can rest easy knowing I tried, win or lose`
`06:08.57`	`Triceron`	`it just sounds like you're trying to catch a sturgeon in your bathtub`
`06:08.59`	`Eiviyn`	`Fully expecting some fps map to win`
`06:09.04`	`Zanam`	`I've spent the last... hour polishing? I have a small list of things to do still but...`
`06:09.04`	`Resinate`	`guys`
`06:09.09`	`Resinate`	`i need a tester for us realm`
`06:09.11`	`Resinate`	`for 2 mins`
`06:09.13`	`Zanam`	`There are 3 grand prize winners total`
`06:09.16`	`Resinate`	`for sound testing`
`06:09.22`	`Eiviyn`	`At first`
`06:09.26`	`Eiviyn`	`I wanted to make a space combat game`
`06:09.33`	`Eiviyn`	`I made a working projectile system`
`06:09.39`	`Eiviyn`	`You flew the hyperion`
`06:09.43`	`Eiviyn`	`Controlled the gun turrets`
`06:09.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmm`
`06:09.53`	`Eiviyn`	`Played it on bnet and naturally the lag was stupid`
`06:09.58`	`Eiviyn`	`Then thought to myself`
`06:10.00`	`Zanam`	`My first map was a dual-stick arcade shooter, wsad for movement, arrow keys for shooting. worked great cept for the .125 second b.net delay`
`06:10.06`	`Eiviyn`	`Do I go with the flashy, cool map, or do I go with the content map`
`06:10.07`	`Resinate`	`ug uys gotta think`
`06:10.10`	`Resinate`	`the lag wont matter`
`06:10.18`	`Resinate`	`cuz theyll play it on local`
`06:10.18`	`Eiviyn`	`I chose the content map`
`06:10.29`	`Resinate`	`someone pm me in game`
`06:10.30`	`Zanam`	`heh... i chose the flashy cool artistic map ;)`
`06:10.31`	`Eiviyn`	`And I'm already bitter about some flashy map winning`
`06:10.33`	`Resinate`	`Goku 934`
`06:10.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`I don't make stuff for contests or for money`
`06:10.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`I just make stuff for myself`
`06:11.03`	`Otixa`	`emerges from the shower`
`06:11.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`I don't even release public content anymore since so many people stole stuff from my BW mods`
`06:11.11`	`Triceron`	`I make stuff for contests, but not for money`
`06:11.15`	`Eiviyn`	`Well I started this months before the contest was even announced, just the contest is a nice opportunity`
`06:11.17`	`Otixa`	`shakes off water ar IskatuMesk and Eiviyn`
`06:11.18`	`Triceron`	`I just like the challenge`
`06:11.20`	`Otixa`	`at*`
`06:11.28`	`Zanam`	`Honestly even if I don't win the contest, I'll be happy if a small group find my map fun and it gets some sort of popularity, even if it isn't on b.net's`
`06:11.48`	`Triceron`	`and mapster still owes me a CE >_<`
`06:11.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Kinda expecting some small games companies to take part`
`06:12.02`	`Otixa`	`dances around in his new boxers`
`06:12.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`what I'm making now is basically what a lot of my buddies have asked me for back in brood war - a chance to play as Armageddon (the demons) from Armageddon Onslaught`
`06:12.05`	`Otixa`	`(>^_^)>`
`06:12.08`	`Otixa`	`<(^_^<)`
`06:12.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`and an opportunity to tell the new rewritten SC story I made for it`
`06:12.14`	`Otixa`	`Good morning everyone :D`
`06:12.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`good morning and good night`
`06:12.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`it is time for me to sleep`
`06:12.47`	`Triceron`	`SC2's story butchered everything good about SC1!`
`06:12.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Night Mesk`
`06:12.49`	`Otixa`	`Nowai`
`06:12.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`it is`
`06:12.55`	`IskatuMesk`	`it did`
`06:12.55`	`Otixa`	`Bai Mesk :\|`
`06:12.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`good night`
`06:13.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`<3`
`06:13.02`	`Triceron`	`night`
`06:13.09`	`Otixa`	`shrugs`
`06:13.14`	`Otixa`	`dances with Eiviyn`
`06:14.00`	`Rodrigo`	`Zanam, what the name of the news on starcraft?? UNN?`
`06:14.00`	`Otixa`	`Mmh... Gotta write a script ;/`
`06:14.04`	`WAR`	`STOP SAYING MY NAME`
`06:14.19`	`Eiviyn`	`Isn't it all 1 letter like NNN or something`
`06:14.28`	`Otixa`	`No, it's UNN`
`06:14.28`	`Rodrigo`	`no`
`06:14.32`	`Zanam`	`yeah UNN`
`06:14.37`	`Zanam`	`nice touch, i like it`
`06:14.41`	`Rodrigo`	`Zanan, I will add Breaking UNN News, ok?`
`06:14.45`	`Zanam`	`yup yup`
`06:14.48`	`Rodrigo`	`k`
`06:14.49`	`Otixa`	`Phaos`
`06:14.52`	`Otixa`	`Triceron`
`06:14.54`	`Otixa`	`Lilianna`
`06:14.56`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn`
`06:15.04`	`Otixa`	`We need to come up with a half-decent script`
`06:15.05`	`Otixa`	`;p`
`06:15.11`	`Eiviyn`	`wtf "we"`
`06:15.22`	`Otixa`	`You're in the show >:[`
`06:15.23`	`Zanam`	`Eiviyn, have you done any private tests of your map yet, or is it just a single player experience`
`06:15.25`	`Triceron`	`wait what are we doing?`
`06:15.31`	`Eiviyn`	`Dozens`
`06:15.33`	`Otixa`	`ModCraft ;P`
`06:15.38`	`Eiviyn`	`10 player`
`06:15.48`	`Eiviyn`	`Balancing, fine tuning, pruning things I hated`
`06:15.56`	`Zanam`	`alright, i've been in debate...there's a thing on the contest submission about not publishing`
`06:16.06`	`Eiviyn`	`Publish as private`
`06:16.15`	`Zanam`	`that can be construed legally as not publishing using their b.net publish system, doesn't specify public or private`
`06:16.17`	`Eiviyn`	`Be wary who you let download your map`
`06:16.33`	`Eiviyn`	`And if you are especially paranoid, change the name too`
`06:16.48`	`Otixa`	`C'mon guise >:\|`
`06:16.50`	`Otixa`	`Script tiems`
`06:16.51`	`Eiviyn`	`I seriously doubt they are going to collar you for publishing privately`
`06:16.53`	`Rodrigo`	`Zanam, that will be the next debate of the week on debates. Whether or not you can submit published maps`
`06:17.12`	`Otixa`	`jabs Triceron`
`06:17.15`	`Eiviyn`	`Because you just cannot throw a map out there without trying it on bnet`
`06:17.21`	`Eiviyn`	`The lobby rubbish brings a LOT of bugs`
`06:17.23`	`Triceron`	`gnaaah`
`06:17.25`	`Zanam`	`yeah exactly.`
`06:17.40`	`Zanam`	`so... care to help me test, then?`
`06:17.41`	`Rodrigo`	`depend. If they want to sell, they will check. If they just want new things, they wont care`
`06:17.43`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, you come up with what yer gonna talk aboot?`
`06:17.45`	`Eiviyn`	`When I first tested my map online I sat back and thought, huh... wow, this is totally broken`
`06:17.57`	`Eiviyn`	`Well first thing is that teams mean nothing`
`06:17.59`	`Triceron`	`I was thinking of starting with something simple`
`06:18.03`	`rooj`	`http://www.battlecam.com/alchydavid`
`06:18.05`	`Eiviyn`	`You can't have players choose their teams on the lobby`
`06:18.11`	`Eiviyn`	`You have to hard code them into your map`
`06:18.15`	`Eiviyn`	`I mean, for example`
`06:18.23`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, liek? :P`
`06:18.32`	`Triceron`	`like how to import a static object from 3ds to GE`
`06:18.33`	`Zanam`	`yeah, i abandoned the teams and went FFA only after I saw how much hassle it was, and my map really isnt geared for team based play`
`06:18.34`	`Eiviyn`	`I just had player 1-5 as team 1, and 6-10 as team 2, regardless as to what they did in the lobby`
`06:18.43`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, we've already done that tho :P`
`06:18.44`	`Triceron`	`and setting it up in the data editor`
`06:18.47`	`Eiviyn`	`Then`
`06:18.51`	`Eiviyn`	`If you use computer players`
`06:18.55`	`Otixa`	`<_<`
`06:19.00`	`Eiviyn`	`Know that they will always be counted as the last players in the lobby`
`06:19.06`	`Eiviyn`	`Say for me, player 13 and 14 were computers`
`06:19.09`	`Triceron`	`what about team color?`
`06:19.14`	`Eiviyn`	`But if I played online`
`06:19.16`	`Otixa`	`Let's just shuffle over to #ModCraft ;/`
`06:19.19`	`Eiviyn`	`And I played with 1 other person`
`06:19.26`	`Eiviyn`	`I would be player 1, host`
`06:19.30`	`Eiviyn`	`My friend would be player 2`
`06:19.37`	`Eiviyn`	`The computers would be bumped to players 3 and 4`
`06:19.46`	`Otixa`	`prods Triceron`
`06:19.53`	`Zanam`	`frustrating beyond belief`
`06:19.58`	`Eiviyn`	`So if you reference players by numbers in your triggers`
`06:20.01`	`Eiviyn`	`You are screwed.`
`06:20.10`	`Zanam`	`I 86'd team play and computers, they dont belong in my map anyway.`
`06:20.15`	`Eiviyn`	`Totally, utterly, bent over and shoved into prison showers screwed.`
`06:20.30`	`Eiviyn`	`I had to re-work my entire map to account for the computer thing`
`06:20.36`	`Zanam`	`but i'm sure i'll get negative points for that, not having AI support`
`06:20.59`	`Eiviyn`	`Doubt it, no map in wc3 really had ai support`
`06:21.04`	`Eiviyn`	`They surely can't expect new sc2 maps to`
`06:21.45`	`LordAbyss`	`holy shit, i just did an hour and 11 minute game`
`06:21.50`	`Rodrigo`	`Zanam, your joke in online! =]`
`06:21.53`	`LordAbyss`	`50% of that i was completely dead`
`06:21.57`	`Zanam`	`thanks rodrigo, an honor.`
`06:22.02`	`Rodrigo`	`:P`
`06:22.07`	`Rodrigo`	`and new cheaper unit`
`06:22.12`	`Eiviyn`	`But yeah if you don't use teams or computer players then you are safe`
`06:22.25`	`Rodrigo`	`======= Platform Defense. New cheaper unit: High Templar (15 minerals only) ======`
`06:23.09`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Qumanhawk (615ebc86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.94.188.134)`
`06:23.52`	`Rodrigo`	`omg... nexus wars glitch again`
`06:24.02`	`Qumanhawk`	`Okay im having the worst problem ever with hero revive. I followed OneTwo's hero revive exactly, and the first time the unit dies, the trigger works, the second time the unit refuses to respawn`
`06:24.07`	`Qumanhawk`	`can anyone help me?`
`06:24.15`	`*** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105)`
`06:24.15`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ`
`06:24.20`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, Lilianna, get teh feck in #modcraft ! >:\|`
`06:24.26`	`Qumanhawk`	`I already set death time to -1 and 9999 neither helped`
`06:24.28`	`Eiviyn`	`Wha, why!`
`06:24.36`	`onetwo`	`hi`
`06:24.40`	`Otixa`	`Discussing next show ;p`
`06:24.43`	`Lilianna`	`no. :p`
`06:24.48`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`06:24.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Why would I need to be there :((`
`06:24.51`	`Otixa`	`Do it!`
`06:24.55`	`Eiviyn`	`I've never even watched it`
`06:25.13`	`Otixa`	`You're gonna be ON the show next time ;p`
`06:25.18`	`Eiviyn`	`NO!`
`06:25.20`	`Qumanhawk`	`onetwo, maybe u know this im having the worst problem ever with hero revive. I followed your hero revive tutorial, and the first time the unit dies, the trigger works, the second time the unit refuses to respawn`
`06:25.22`	`Otixa`	`Yes ;p`
`06:25.39`	`Qumanhawk`	`i already changed the death time`
`06:26.05`	`onetwo`	`qumanhawk`
`06:26.09`	`onetwo`	`make the stats - death time`
`06:26.13`	`Resinate`	`onetwo lol`
`06:26.15`	`onetwo`	`be close to the "wait" time`
`06:26.17`	`Resinate`	`u should see my map lOL`
`06:26.17`	`onetwo`	`in the trigger`
`06:26.19`	`onetwo`	`not -1`
`06:26.21`	`onetwo`	`ir 9999`
`06:26.24`	`onetwo`	`make it like 10 secs`
`06:26.27`	`onetwo`	`if your wait time is 9 secs`
`06:26.29`	`Rodrigo`	`damn, nexus wars glitch 2nd time in a row`
`06:26.34`	`Resinate`	`later guys`
`06:26.44`	`Qumanhawk`	`hmmm but what if i need the respawn time to go up`
`06:26.45`	`Qumanhawk`	`?`
`06:26.54`	`Rodrigo`	`F******* nexus wars glitch 3rd time in a row`
`06:27.01`	`LordAbyss`	`onetwo!`
`06:27.05`	`LordAbyss`	`i have a question for you`
`06:27.07`	`Rodrigo`	`how many times to I have to quit starcraft to get rid of it........`
`06:27.09`	`onetwo`	`well qumanhawk`
`06:27.13`	`Rodrigo`	`do*`
`06:27.15`	`onetwo`	`you can do a catalog - set field`
`06:27.23`	`onetwo`	`and set the value of stats - death time for all unit types in your map`
`06:27.25`	`onetwo`	`to increase`
`06:27.31`	`onetwo`	`but thats on a unit-type basis`
`06:27.37`	`Qumanhawk`	`ya thats fine`
`06:27.41`	`onetwo`	`OR`
`06:27.41`	`Qumanhawk`	`only 6 unit types respawn`
`06:27.45`	`Qumanhawk`	`yes?`
`06:27.45`	`onetwo`	`maybe`
`06:27.59`	`onetwo`	`hmm`
`06:28.16`	`onetwo`	`its weird`
`06:28.18`	`onetwo`	`if your death time is -1`
`06:28.20`	`onetwo`	`when you revive`
`06:28.24`	`onetwo`	`i think blizz forgot to reset your guy`
`06:28.29`	`onetwo`	`because were using a custom function`
`06:28.54`	`Qumanhawk`	`so u think just reset catalog to -1?`
`06:28.57`	`Huesy`	`Crap, keep forgetting how to stop a unit auto walking to within range when attacking a unit. Any refreshers? >.<`
`06:29.15`	`onetwo`	`hmm`
`06:29.17`	`onetwo`	`i dont know`
`06:29.26`	`onetwo`	`anything -1 seems to not work`
`06:29.29`	`Huesy`	`I've done it countless times but keep forgettin`
`06:29.31`	`onetwo`	`because it thinks your guy is still dead`
`06:29.47`	`Qumanhawk`	`hmm weird`
`06:31.10`	`Zanam`	`hey, wasnt there a link to a tutorial on accessing the hidden tutorial announcer voices?`
`06:31.53`	`HR_`	`lf3m to race, my map, SC Rally, fps battle racing, like mario kart, jumps bridges weapons, !!! [noM]: this is srsly one of the best map ive ever played`
`06:32.30`	`HR_`	`cmon US`
`06:32.34`	`HR_`	`take a break and race me`
`06:32.42`	`HR_`	`you wont even beat my cpu drivers on easy`
`06:33.22`	`HR_`	`all i can do is spam people invites to play... they are gonna start ignorin me soon`
`06:33.28`	`HR_`	`but everyone that plays likes it`
`06:33.44`	`HR_`	`i can tell you how zanam`
`06:33.52`	`Zanam`	`HR_, i found it`
`06:33.54`	`Zanam`	`thanks though`
`06:34.14`	`HR_`	`there is also a helper function to play a number`
`06:34.27`	`HR_`	`1 to 9,999,999`
`06:34.48`	`Qumanhawk`	`onetwo, the respawn time is 15 and the death time i set to 16`
`06:34.57`	`Qumanhawk`	`still not working, wont revive after the 2nd death`
`06:35.03`	`HR_`	`someone race me`
`06:35.05`	`onetwo`	`hmm`
`06:35.13`	`onetwo`	`multiple revives work in my rpg`
`06:35.17`	`onetwo`	`im not sure...`
`06:35.45`	`onetwo`	`did you set the right unit`
`06:35.50`	`Qumanhawk`	`ya`
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`06:40.45`	`Xackery`	`which WoW class do you think is coolest looking?`
`06:40.49`	`Xackery`	`(Ideally blood elf)`
`06:41.06`	`Eiviyn`	`Fury warrior`
`06:41.08`	`Eiviyn`	`With swords`
`06:41.11`	`Eiviyn`	`And t6`
`06:45.52`	`Triceron`	`onetwo!`
`06:46.08`	`HR_`	`lf3m to race, my map, SC Rally, fps battle racing, like mario kart, jumps bridges weapons, !!! [noM]: this is srsly one of the best map ive ever played`
`06:46.11`	`HR_`	`on US`
`06:46.22`	`HR_`	`take a break and have some fun`
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`06:52.51`	`Triceron`	`night night mapster channel`
`06:53.11`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Triceron (60313557@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.49.53.87)`
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`06:54.58`	`Mordero`	`Sup`
`06:58.16`	`Mordero`	`is there a way to import the WC3 Ability's into SC2 galaxy?`
`06:58.53`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Nash\|327 (~nn@81-234-225-23-no35.tbcn.telia.com)`
`06:59.23`	`Nash\|327`	`more kittuns`
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`07:00.07`	`LordAbyss`	`so if i did a livestream, ingame cinematic or one that i edit outsisde of the game!`
`07:00.08`	`LordAbyss`	`which one`
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`07:01.51`	`LordAbyss`	`~8ball Yes for completely ingame?`
`07:01.51`	`purl`	`No.`
`07:01.56`	`LordAbyss`	`ok it is decided!`
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`07:03.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Resinate (~IceChat7@c-24-16-10-232.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)`
`07:03.33`	`Resinate`	`guys`
`07:03.40`	`Resinate`	`how the hell do i change a song from 2d to 3d`
`07:03.46`	`Resinate`	`and be able to save it`
`07:03.59`	`Resinate`	`cuz when i change a sound from 2d to 3d the crashes`
`07:04.01`	`Zanam`	`good day... got a lot accomplished.`
`07:04.09`	`Resinate`	`i just tried it 20 times in a row`
`07:05.06`	`Resinate`	`WF`
`07:05.09`	`Resinate`	`is so bad now`
`07:05.17`	`Resinate`	`i cant change its flag type`
`07:05.20`	`Resinate`	`from combat to death`
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`07:05.49`	`Mordero`	`so i take it you cant import the WC3 ability's into SC2`
`07:06.25`	`Resinate`	`Unable to move existing archive (The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.): C:\Users\David\Desktop\Smash TV 2010 Alpha 0.575.SC2Map`
`07:06.38`	`Resinate`	`i get this error everytime i try to mod my map`
`07:06.50`	`Resinate`	`is someone hacking my comp?`
`07:06.55`	`Nash\|327`	`yes`
`07:07.06`	`Nash\|327`	`haxorz`
`07:07.18`	`Nash\|327`	`only format c: can save you now`
`07:07.25`	`*** part/#sc2mapster eRjkMn (~huperphuf@ip70-162-1-230.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`07:08.59`	`Resinate`	`wow`
`07:09.11`	`Resinate`	`i guess blizzard pays u guys to keep quiet i see`
`07:10.42`	`Resinate`	`well if sc2 editor cant do a mpq editor will`
`07:10.50`	`Syniq`	`It's 8am on a Tuesday morning here. Cut some slack. :p`
`07:11.06`	`Resinate`	`i?`
`07:11.07`	`Resinate`	`?`
`07:11.11`	`Resinate`	`its midnight here`
`07:11.31`	`Syniq`	`That's 'cause you're on the west coast of the states. :p`
`07:11.40`	`Resinate`	`YAY`
`07:11.44`	`Resinate`	`my map is perm busted`
`07:11.49`	`Syniq`	`Everyone else is asleep. :p`
`07:11.52`	`Resinate`	`blizzard locked me down`
`07:12.03`	`Resinate`	`i cant mod any maps now LOL`
`07:12.28`	`Resinate`	`it says something i upload was illegal and now im not allowed to save any files`
`07:13.24`	`Syniq`	`O.o`
`07:13.34`	`Resinate`	`i dunno`
`07:13.38`	`Resinate`	`im bypassing it`
`07:13.41`	`Resinate`	`with an mpq editor`
`07:13.43`	`Syniq`	`o.O`
`07:13.44`	`Resinate`	`im able to upload`
`07:13.47`	`Resinate`	`just not save`
`07:14.10`	`Syniq`	`E-mail Blizzard? :p`
`07:15.05`	`Nash\|327`	`Blizzard pays me to keep quiet!`
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`07:15.19`	`Nash\|327`	`Damn, that would be awesome if they did.`
`07:15.19`	`Huesy`	`Any insight into disabling automatic approach for the default "Attack" behavior?`
`07:15.44`	`Nash\|327`	`I can not answer questions I don't know answers to and get paid for it.`
`07:16.42`	`onetwo`	`Huesy: Combat - default acquire level`
`07:16.46`	`onetwo`	`behavior - damage response`
`07:16.57`	`onetwo`	`and for any damage effects in your map, make sure they don't have 'acquire/flee' checked in flags`
`07:17.03`	`onetwo`	`acquire and flee*`
`07:17.19`	`Mordero`	`heya onetwo`
`07:17.24`	`onetwo`	`hi`
`07:17.34`	`Huesy`	`onetwo: Brilliant, will give it a go :)`
`07:19.51`	`Mordero`	`sigh i just lost all my ability's i created :(`
`07:20.11`	`ZarafFaraz`	`hey onetwo, do you think it's possible to create a WoW (and Diablo 2) style skill tree thing using dialogs?`
`07:20.41`	`onetwo`	`of course`
`07:20.48`	`ZarafFaraz`	`nice`
`07:21.04`	`onetwo`	`but dont start with that`
`07:21.04`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`07:21.08`	`onetwo`	`work your way to something that insane`
`07:21.11`	`ZarafFaraz`	`has anyone done it yet?`
`07:21.39`	`onetwo`	`probably in secret?`
`07:21.40`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`07:23.13`	`Resinate`	`man`
`07:23.16`	`Resinate`	`i hate doing sounds`
`07:23.24`	`Resinate`	`only mod i have to do all in mpq editor`
`07:23.29`	`Resinate`	`cuz sc2 editor cant handle it`
`07:24.15`	`rooj`	`my friend just logged in and says the custom games list is nothing but nexus wars`
`07:24.19`	`rooj`	`is that a bug or did something change`
`07:24.32`	`SuraklinSC2`	`waves his hand.`
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`07:24.37`	`SuraklinSC2`	`There is nothing but nexus wars.`
`07:24.40`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Move along.`
`07:24.47`	`Resinate`	`if u get that bug`
`07:24.50`	`Resinate`	`of nexus wars`
`07:24.52`	`Resinate`	`relog`
`07:27.41`	`Qumanhawk`	`does "Unit takes fatal damage" event go off before or after the unit has died?`
`07:28.44`	`Huesy`	`Okay, so I have 'Default Acquire Level' of my marine at 'None'. Response to 'No Response'. My damage effect under Response has no response flags, my weapon has Allowed Movement = 'None' but he still wants to run to within range :P`
`07:28.53`	`ZarafFaraz`	`Before. Unit dies is the event for after the unit dies`
`07:29.05`	`Qumanhawk`	`awesome thank you!`
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`07:31.21`	`Xackery`	`Any animators on e.g. Otixa? What's the color for team color?`
`07:31.25`	`Xackery`	`oh.. nevermind, I can ninja your flag`
`07:37.27`	`Resinate`	`WOOT`
`07:37.33`	`Resinate`	`my taunts has passed the test`
`07:37.48`	`Resinate`	`using no triggers XD`
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`07:39.39`	`onetwo`	`nice!`
`07:40.08`	`Squirrel`	`hi there ... whoa a whole bunch of mapcreators here ... didn't expect that many`
`07:40.24`	`Resinate`	`like u can hear the taunts in 20 range of the unit saying them`
`07:40.35`	`Resinate`	`theres attack voice`
`07:40.37`	`Resinate`	`defend`
`07:40.39`	`Resinate`	`and 9 taunts`
`07:40.51`	`Resinate`	`onetwo`
`07:40.59`	`Resinate`	`do u know a behaviour`
`07:41.03`	`Resinate`	`thats like a flash`
`07:41.09`	`onetwo`	`?`
`07:41.17`	`Resinate`	`en effect thats a flash`
`07:41.27`	`Resinate`	`so whenthey say they attack itll flash one color`
`07:41.45`	`allenmelon`	`hi onetwo`
`07:41.48`	`onetwo`	`hi`
`07:41.54`	`Resinate`	`i know what ill do`
`07:42.01`	`Resinate`	`press 1 for attack mode`
`07:42.04`	`Resinate`	`and 2 defense mode`
`07:42.18`	`allenmelon`	`school starts on thursday for me... seems like i wont be able to play your rpg till winter break or so`
`07:42.32`	`allenmelon`	`:(`
`07:42.43`	`allenmelon`	`but at least itll be good when i get to play :)`
`07:43.36`	`Resinate`	`onetwo`
`07:43.46`	`Resinate`	`is there a way to detect what weapon a unit has on`
`07:43.48`	`Resinate`	`and remove it`
`07:44.05`	`Resinate`	`without having to make triggers for each weapon in the game`
`07:44.26`	`onetwo`	`probably not`
`07:44.26`	`onetwo`	`?`
`07:44.31`	`onetwo`	`im not a huge data editor person`
`07:44.41`	`onetwo`	`i can usually think of a trigger solution haah`
`07:44.42`	`Resinate`	`this would be for triggers`
`07:44.55`	`Resinate`	`right now i use this`
`07:45.04`	`Resinate`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:45.04`	`Resinate`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:45.04`	`Resinate`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:45.04`	`Resinate`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:45.16`	`Resinate`	`but im gonna have like 10 units for ppl to pick from`
`07:45.34`	`Resinate`	`what this does is it changes the units weapon based off a pickup`
`07:46.09`	`rooj`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww&feature=player_embedded`
`07:46.12`	`Resinate`	`HAHAH`
`07:46.14`	`Resinate`	`i found it`
`07:46.21`	`Resinate`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:47.16`	`Resinate`	`to make it even better`
`07:47.17`	`Resinate`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:47.22`	`Resinate`	`to prevent more than 1`
`07:47.48`	`Resinate`	`nm`
`07:47.50`	`Resinate`	`that wont work`
`07:48.33`	`Resinate`	`this will work`
`07:48.33`	`Resinate`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:48.33`	`Resinate`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:48.33`	`Resinate`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:48.38`	`Resinate`	`sorry for the spam XD`
`07:49.31`	`Resinate`	`its funny sc2 has all this crap for FPS style games`
`07:49.36`	`Resinate`	`not no WASD system XD`
`07:50.00`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Nor a convienent taco dispensing system.`
`07:50.18`	`Resinate`	`theyhave that`
`07:50.23`	`Resinate`	`its under behaviours`
`07:50.24`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Nope.`
`07:50.29`	`SuraklinSC2`	`It just fired burritos at me.`
`07:50.31`	`rooj`	`mmmm taco vaginas`
`07:50.37`	`Nash\|327`	`ew`
`07:50.39`	`rooj`	`lol`
`07:50.40`	`SuraklinSC2`	`I'm not a fan of burritos.`
`07:50.46`	`Resinate`	`i pack soo much beef in my tacos`
`07:50.47`	`rooj`	`i love burritos`
`07:51.07`	`Resinate`	`throw some spicy suase on it`
`07:51.11`	`Resinate`	`with whip cream`
`07:51.28`	`Nash\|327`	`I eat vegetarian tacos, not a huge fan of meat in my mouth`
`07:51.32`	`Nash\|327`	`;G`
`07:52.00`	`ZarafFaraz`	`mhmhmhmmm.....meat`
`07:52.15`	`Nash\|327`	`meat is murder!`
`07:53.04`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Eh?`
`07:53.07`	`rooj`	`mmm meat`
`07:53.09`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Meat is tasty.`
`07:53.10`	`SuraklinSC2`	`But.`
`07:53.18`	`rooj`	`but it needs to be beat first`
`07:53.22`	`SuraklinSC2`	`I do feel that in order to eat meat... you should have the guts to kill the animal yourself.`
`07:53.23`	`SuraklinSC2`	`;)`
`07:53.30`	`rooj`	`i dont`
`07:53.33`	`SuraklinSC2`	`So many sissies these days.`
`07:53.34`	`rooj`	`what are you going to do about it`
`07:53.55`	`Xackery`	`killing an animal and eating it after is best`
`07:54.01`	`Nash\|327`	`:/`
`07:54.04`	`SuraklinSC2`	`So, if the end of civilization happened tomorrow, and you were super hungry...`
`07:54.11`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Nom nom cow.`
`07:54.19`	`Nash\|327`	`I would eat canned food`
`07:54.20`	`rooj`	`i would eat grass`
`07:54.32`	`SuraklinSC2`	`A cow could feed you for weeks!`
`07:54.34`	`Nash\|327`	`ENDLESS SUPPLY OF CANS`
`07:54.37`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Nom nom!`
`07:55.00`	`HeyRevolver`	`hide your kids, hide your wife`
`07:55.03`	`rooj`	`plantlife can feed a planet for... life`
`07:55.08`	`rooj`	`wildlife could too, but`
`07:55.13`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Nah.`
`07:55.18`	`Nash\|327`	`no killing animals :/`
`07:55.19`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Plantlife is a bonus.`
`07:55.22`	`HeyRevolver`	`and hide your husband cuz they rapin eeverybody over here`
`07:55.27`	`ZarafFaraz`	`lol`
`07:55.30`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Unless you had a ton of protien from someplace.`
`07:55.36`	`rooj`	`antoine is my hero`
`07:55.36`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Like a peanut farm.`
`07:55.45`	`rooj`	`maybe i should name my FFXIV character Antoine Dodson`
`07:56.08`	`HeyRevolver`	`probably`
`07:56.10`	`HeyRevolver`	`a good idea`
`07:56.13`	`Nash\|327`	`meat is ecologically unsound too`
`07:56.16`	`rooj`	`right now its Tychus Findlay`
`07:56.17`	`HeyRevolver`	`then you can run and tell that`
`07:56.18`	`HeyRevolver`	`homeboy`
`07:56.19`	`rooj`	`;)`
`07:56.20`	`rooj`	`LOL`
`07:56.34`	`rooj`	`tychus is the best character in a video game ever`
`07:56.39`	`Nash\|327`	`noes`
`07:56.44`	`HeyRevolver`	`except he is a backstabbing flip flopping hick`
`07:56.49`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Tychus? Really? ^^`
`07:57.07`	`SuraklinSC2`	`I found Swann more enteraining than him. ;)`
`07:57.18`	`HeyRevolver`	`I found the zergling in mission 14 more entertaining`
`07:57.27`	`HeyRevolver`	`jk rooj`
`07:57.30`	`HeyRevolver`	`<3`
`07:57.32`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Hmm.`
`07:57.33`	`rooj`	`swann reminded me of dwarves from WoW so i guess i hated him`
`07:57.37`	`Nash\|327`	`Tychus is 2-dimensional :G`
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`07:57.42`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ`
`07:57.42`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Perhaps I should go to Public with my new map.`
`07:57.44`	`onetwo`	`man`
`07:57.46`	`onetwo`	`so weird`
`07:57.49`	`SuraklinSC2`	`All my alpha testers are getting lazy. :/`
`07:57.52`	`rooj`	`whats mission 14? ;x`
`07:57.53`	`onetwo`	`sometimes my screen just goes black`
`07:57.56`	`HeyRevolver`	`rofl`
`07:57.59`	`HeyRevolver`	`i dont know`
`07:58.00`	`onetwo`	`and its like my gfx card shuts down`
`07:58.02`	`rooj`	`lol`
`07:58.06`	`onetwo`	`but its fine when i restart`
`07:58.10`	`Resinate`	`dude`
`07:58.14`	`Resinate`	`did u do the glue cap`
`07:58.15`	`Resinate`	`for sc2`
`07:58.18`	`onetwo`	`i already lost one 8800 to sc2`
`07:58.24`	`HeyRevolver`	`damn`
`07:58.27`	`rooj`	`O_O`
`07:58.28`	`Resinate`	`onetwo`
`07:58.28`	`SuraklinSC2`	`I thought they fixed that last patch.`
`07:58.32`	`Resinate`	`did u do the glue cap`
`07:58.33`	`onetwo`	`i had editor open`
`07:58.36`	`Resinate`	`to prevent over heating`
`07:58.48`	`onetwo`	`i wasnt in sc2 though`
`07:58.51`	`onetwo`	`i only had editor open`
`07:58.52`	`Resinate`	`doesnt matte`
`07:58.57`	`HeyRevolver`	`i have one of those vortex fans blowing straight into my video card`
`07:59.00`	`Resinate`	`it works for sc2 and editor`
`07:59.07`	`rooj`	`mothership vortex?`
`07:59.09`	`onetwo`	`ah`
`07:59.10`	`rooj`	`wicked`
`07:59.20`	`Resinate`	`look up the sc2 fix for overheating`
`07:59.25`	`Resinate`	`read it`
`07:59.26`	`Resinate`	`it works`
`07:59.27`	`onetwo`	`let me see if my notepad file`
`07:59.28`	`onetwo`	`still has it`
`07:59.29`	`HeyRevolver`	`rofl rooj`
`07:59.30`	`SuraklinSC2`	`frameratecap=60`
`07:59.30`	`SuraklinSC2`	`frameratecapGlue=30`
`07:59.31`	`HeyRevolver`	`well played`
`07:59.36`	`SuraklinSC2`	`In your variables.txt`
`07:59.48`	`rooj`	`wait`
`07:59.51`	`rooj`	`whats this Glue thing`
`07:59.52`	`HeyRevolver`	`Protoss has momma hip.`
`07:59.55`	`HeyRevolver`	`ship`
`07:59.57`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Glue is for the menus.`
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`08:00.08`	`onetwo`	`my sc2 variables.txt had it`
`08:00.08`	`SuraklinSC2`	`The original release of SC2 had no fps cap on menus.`
`08:00.10`	`Resinate`	`also`
`08:00.11`	`onetwo`	`but not editorvariables`
`08:00.14`	`Resinate`	`make sure vsync IS ON`
`08:00.19`	`SuraklinSC2`	`So they were rendering at 2000+ frames a second and overheating cards.`
`08:00.19`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`WOW`
`08:00.27`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`no wonder rodrigo's map is so high on the list`
`08:00.27`	`HeyRevolver`	`Dont go spready misinformtion about glue. Glue is for sniffing.`
`08:00.33`	`onetwo`	`why?`
`08:00.40`	`Resinate`	`cuz`
`08:00.41`	`currydevil`	`I'm in ur kitchen stealin yo noms!`
`08:00.41`	`rooj`	`where is the variables.txt`
`08:00.42`	`Resinate`	`w things`
`08:00.45`	`onetwo`	`docs/sc2`
`08:00.47`	`HeyRevolver`	`hahaha`
`08:00.48`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`his game is 4 players and ends in like 4 minutes`
`08:00.50`	`HeyRevolver`	`currydevil wtf`
`08:00.50`	`SuraklinSC2`	`rooj: "My Documents"`
`08:00.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`08:00.52`	`Resinate`	`ur screen doesnt put out more than 60 fps`
`08:00.54`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Starcraft II`
`08:00.56`	`rooj`	`oh`
`08:00.57`	`rooj`	`ok`
`08:00.57`	`SuraklinSC2`	`It's in there.`
`08:01.02`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`because he can't balance waves for his life`
`08:01.03`	`Resinate`	`and 2 itll stop it from going above 60 fps`
`08:01.04`	`currydevil`	`noms man! that's wtf`
`08:01.07`	`onetwo`	`haha ekcol`
`08:01.09`	`onetwo`	`people love those maps`
`08:01.16`	`onetwo`	`for some reason`
`08:01.17`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`i was like`
`08:01.24`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`i just played this map 3 times because it was pissing me off`
`08:01.27`	`HeyRevolver`	`haha`
`08:01.30`	`onetwo`	`also ekcol... i thought they made popularity fair for big vs small player count and long vs short`
`08:01.33`	`onetwo`	`since your map was on page 1`
`08:01.43`	`rooj`	`do i edit editorvariables.txt too?`
`08:01.45`	`onetwo`	`but i guess yours is just on page 1 and if it was equal itd be number 1 on list`
`08:01.49`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`no, i just have than many players`
`08:01.50`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`lol`
`08:01.55`	`onetwo`	`thats what im sayin`
`08:02.00`	`onetwo`	`if the system truly was equal`
`08:02.02`	`onetwo`	`would you be number 1`
`08:02.03`	`onetwo`	`or around there?`
`08:02.07`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`i don't care so much for that list anymore`
`08:02.11`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`so long as i'm findable`
`08:02.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`what map did you make?`
`08:02.28`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`i'm more worried about setting up our development format`
`08:02.48`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`and bugfixes <_>`
`08:02.54`	`HeyRevolver`	`oh youre too big time to answer me huh?`
`08:02.55`	`onetwo`	`he made sotis`
`08:03.01`	`HeyRevolver`	`ah`
`08:03.06`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`sorry, i'm`
`08:03.10`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol i was jk an`
`08:03.10`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`in a game of nexus wars`
`08:03.11`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`xD`
`08:03.16`	`Huesy`	`onetwo: Those flags you mentioned don't have any effect on a player's unit moving within range automatically when ordered to attack.`
`08:03.18`	`HeyRevolver`	`=)`
`08:03.19`	`rooj`	`rofl`
`08:03.34`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`mass sentry rush is so op`
`08:03.39`	`onetwo`	`oh Huesy`
`08:03.40`	`onetwo`	`on top of that`
`08:03.41`	`rooj`	`O_O;`
`08:03.50`	`onetwo`	`in every unit's weapon, make search filters or target filters or w/e its called`
`08:03.55`	`onetwo`	`i think search`
`08:03.59`	`onetwo`	`to have nothing checked`
`08:04.02`	`Huesy`	`It's search yeah`
`08:04.04`	`onetwo`	`uncheck enemy`
`08:04.07`	`onetwo`	`player`
`08:04.08`	`onetwo`	`self`
`08:04.10`	`onetwo`	`and neutral`
`08:04.12`	`Huesy`	`Will give that a go :)`
`08:04.14`	`onetwo`	`or ally`
`08:04.27`	`Squirrel`	`Wat teh fuck: I create a global array and on mapinitialisation i fill it with some units. Then i create a trigger that listens to a "unitA enters within 3 yards of (Position of Array[0])" -> this trigger isn't activated ... if i change this statement to "unitA enters within 3 yards of (Position of UnitB)" -> it works perfectly ... so could it be that events don't realize that the array has already changed and what is the workaro`
`08:04.45`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Eh?`
`08:04.57`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Aren't event conditions pre-compiled at start?`
`08:05.14`	`SuraklinSC2`	`So, if you change the variable after map start, it doesn't actually change?`
`08:05.28`	`HR_`	`it is set to the old value of the array squirrel`
`08:05.41`	`Squirrel`	`mmh already thought so ...`
`08:05.48`	`HR_`	`one way to fix it would be to create the trigger yourself at run time, after you set the array`
`08:06.04`	`Squirrel`	`i'm fairly new to the galaxy edior but is there a way to fill an array before map init?`
`08:06.10`	`HR_`	`you know how you can view script, just copy the code that creates the trigger`
`08:06.17`	`HR_`	`none that i know of`
`08:06.35`	`Squirrel`	`well this kinda sucks ^^`
`08:06.42`	`HR_`	`you can see when you view script that it calls initglobalvars and init triggers etc`
`08:06.49`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Yea.`
`08:07.00`	`Squirrel`	`mmh okay i'll try that`
`08:07.01`	`SuraklinSC2`	`You "could" just make a general trigger.`
`08:07.03`	`HR_`	`you would need to copy the relevant parts. create custom script action and paste them in`
`08:07.13`	`HR_`	`maybe there is a better way`
`08:07.16`	`SuraklinSC2`	`And put in if any unit comes within 3 yards of any other unit... but that would suck. ^^`
`08:07.19`	`SuraklinSC2`	`And fire all the time.`
`08:07.34`	`HR_`	`then check which unit it is`
`08:07.35`	`Squirrel`	`yeah and fuck up performance ^^`
`08:07.47`	`SuraklinSC2`	`I had that "issue" too.`
`08:07.54`	`SuraklinSC2`	`But then I just hardcoded the objects.`
`08:07.58`	`HR_`	`if you create the triggers with code like that you can easily create dozens at a time`
`08:08.07`	`SuraklinSC2`	`And when I wanted to blow them up, I teleported them off the screen, replaced them with dummies.`
`08:08.11`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Then exploded the dummies.`
`08:08.17`	`HR_`	`haha`
`08:08.29`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Then teleported the originals back afterwards.`
`08:08.32`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Works out good.`
`08:08.40`	`HR_`	`ya , like he said if the unit dies the trigger becomes wrong`
`08:08.58`	`HR_`	`i dont know if theres a wawy to remove an event from a trigger and add the proper unit`
`08:09.10`	`HR_`	`if there were you could do that instead of xreating it outright`
`08:09.22`	`HR_`	`remove event from trigger, add event to trigger array[0]`
`08:09.36`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Well, figuring out solutions works better if you work backwards.`
`08:09.44`	`SuraklinSC2`	`What's your ultimate goal first? ^^`
`08:09.51`	`HR_`	`suraks might be the ONLY way`
`08:10.04`	`SuraklinSC2`	`I'm making a CTF style map.`
`08:10.05`	`HR_`	`considering that if the unit dies it can be different unit, unless u resurrect it?`
`08:10.10`	`SuraklinSC2`	`And the "flags" are banelings. ;)`
`08:10.18`	`HR_`	`who wants to play my battle racing map?`
`08:10.38`	`SuraklinSC2`	`If the unit dies, the trigger will never fire again.`
`08:10.47`	`HR_`	`i need people to give ideas, bugs, and critique`
`08:10.57`	`SuraklinSC2`	`It's tied to that specific instance of the unit when the map is first run.`
`08:11.24`	`HR_`	`ya but i bet you could resurrect it`
`08:11.33`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Or, cheat like me!`
`08:11.35`	`SuraklinSC2`	`;)`
`08:11.47`	`HR_`	`also, i think morph unit still works, so you could maybe morph it to a dead version`
`08:11.55`	`HR_`	`ya your way works i bet`
`08:12.07`	`HR_`	`i know you want to see my battle racing map`
`08:12.11`	`HR_`	`its like mario kart`
`08:12.13`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Hmm.`
`08:12.27`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Mario Kart...`
`08:12.28`	`SuraklinSC2`	`hmm.`
`08:12.44`	`HR_`	`HRPuffinstuf 762 on US`
`08:15.13`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Oh hey.`
`08:15.21`	`SuraklinSC2`	`When did the number of documents go from 5 to 10.`
`08:16.59`	`Otixa`	`[10:31] <Xackery> Any animators on e.g. Otixa? What's the color for team color?`
`08:17.02`	`Otixa`	`wut?`
`08:18.05`	`HR_`	`he wants to know what that cyan looking color is`
`08:18.10`	`HR_`	`that gets replaced with team color`
`08:18.37`	`HR_`	`i wants some people to race against`
`08:18.37`	`Otixa`	`wut :\|`
`08:18.47`	`HR_`	`in the unit textures`
`08:19.00`	`Otixa`	`Team color is done with alpha ;/`
`08:19.07`	`HR_`	`oh`
`08:19.11`	`HR_`	`i thought i saw blue`
`08:19.29`	`Otixa`	`It's blue in the diffuse map`
`08:19.34`	`Otixa`	`Just for kicks`
`08:19.41`	`HR_`	`i see`
`08:19.54`	`Otixa`	`Also, why do you have my flag? >:\|`
`08:20.01`	`HR_`	`flag?`
`08:20.17`	`Otixa`	`Â¬_Â¬`
`08:20.28`	`HR_`	`race me, 3 laps`
`08:20.32`	`HR_`	`ill give ur flag back`
`08:20.39`	`Otixa`	`I'm EU`
`08:20.43`	`HR_`	`awww`
`08:20.49`	`HR_`	`can u upload my map for me?>`
`08:20.59`	`Otixa`	`I guess, but not now`
`08:21.13`	`Otixa`	`Ask Tinman or Xaragoth`
`08:21.14`	`HR_`	`sometime ill have to trade with someone`
`08:21.26`	`HR_`	`i got a few more revisions to make anyways`
`08:21.29`	`Resinate`	`guys`
`08:21.37`	`Resinate`	`does anyone know how to make a double line text tag`
`08:21.43`	`HR_`	`</n>`
`08:21.48`	`HR_`	`?`
`08:21.48`	`Resinate`	`nope`
`08:21.49`	`Resinate`	`tried it`
`08:21.54`	`HR_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:21.57`	`HR_`	`?`
`08:22.01`	`Otixa`	`\r\n`
`08:22.09`	`HR_`	`rly>`
`08:22.16`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Two tags with different heights? ^^`
`08:22.21`	`Huesy`	`This marine must really like moving >.<`
`08:22.33`	`HR_`	`otixa uses windows`
`08:22.52`	`Nash\|327`	`No way to get a search to target specific unit types?`
`08:22.55`	`Otixa`	`Indeed`
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`08:23.21`	`HR_`	`only those search flags, not type that i know of`
`08:23.33`	`HR_`	`pick a flag and use it? lol`
`08:23.36`	`Nash\|327`	`Doesn't look like it.`
`08:23.40`	`Nash\|327`	`Triggers to the rescue!`
`08:23.49`	`HR_`	`unit filters like dead hidden invuln`
`08:24.05`	`HR_`	`a validator?`
`08:24.15`	`HR_`	`in effects you can maybe use validators`
`08:24.23`	`HR_`	`someone race against me`
`08:24.27`	`Otixa`	`You can't have my flag!`
`08:24.28`	`Otixa`	`ROAR`
`08:24.35`	`Otixa`	`No flags for you!`
`08:24.38`	`Otixa`	`cackles`
`08:24.43`	`HR_`	`we dont need no stinkin flags`
`08:24.58`	`Nash\|327`	`hm validators`
`08:25.21`	`Nash\|327`	`Is Zergling`
`08:25.59`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Create your own validator?`
`08:26.25`	`Nash\|327`	`There's Is Zergling though.`
`08:26.50`	`HR_`	`ya make your own unit type validator`
`08:27.35`	`HR_`	`you guys need to take a break seriously so lets race`
`08:30.42`	`HR_`	`GGGAARRRRRRRR the nexus wars bug`
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`08:31.24`	`ekcolnovkol\|afk`	`what's the bug :U`
`08:32.21`	`Nash\|327`	`How do you make Behaviors hidden :o`
`08:32.36`	`Nash\|327`	`oh there it is :G`
`08:33.12`	`HR_`	`nexus wars is the first 25 maps`
`08:34.21`	`Arthas-2`	`good morning`
`08:35.58`	`HR_`	`looking for peeps to play SC Rally battle racing`
`08:36.25`	`ZarafFaraz`	`lol first 25 maps`
`08:36.41`	`HR_`	`have you seen it? its a real bug lol`
`08:36.46`	`ZarafFaraz`	`yeah`
`08:36.50`	`ZarafFaraz`	`it happened to other maps before too`
`08:40.48`	`SuraklinSC2`	`yawns.`
`08:40.50`	`HR_`	`im still looking for an opponent`
`08:40.59`	`HR_`	`got a list of junk to fix tommorow`
`08:41.06`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Yay fixing stuff.`
`08:41.17`	`SuraklinSC2`	`It public?`
`08:41.21`	`HR_`	`ya`
`08:41.25`	`SuraklinSC2`	`name?`
`08:41.32`	`HR_`	`bottom of list, SC Rally`
`08:41.39`	`HR_`	`do the one with racing type`
`08:41.44`	`HR_`	`cause im in it and thers 2 i saw`
`08:41.49`	`HR_`	`US`
`08:41.51`	`SuraklinSC2`	`k, you hosting one right now?`
`08:41.56`	`HR_`	`ya`
`08:42.09`	`SuraklinSC2`	`lies.`
`08:42.13`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Hit the public button. ^^`
`08:42.18`	`HR_`	`or i can pm u`
`08:42.27`	`HR_`	`hrpuffinstuf 762`
`08:44.17`	`Resinate`	`fact of the day`
`08:44.18`	`Resinate`	`It is also called a wet dream, and may be considered a type of spontaneous orgasm.`
`08:46.42`	`HR_`	`i actually have working bridges in my map u guys`
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`08:46.57`	`HR_`	`someone race me!!!!`
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`08:48.57`	`HR_`	`play SC Rally on US, bottom of list`
`08:49.08`	`SuraklinSC2`	`I'm playing it solo!`
`08:49.12`	`HR_`	`haha`
`08:49.18`	`HR_`	`i thought maybe u were`
`08:49.23`	`HR_`	`cpus are gonna beat u`
`08:49.30`	`HR_`	`hit R for radio`
`08:49.33`	`HR_`	`lol`
`08:50.10`	`HR_`	`i need announcers for my radio station`
`08:50.26`	`HR_`	`should i rip them from snoop doggs doggystyle`
`08:52.27`	`HR_`	`surak when you get back give comments pls`
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`09:00.12`	`BreakTheB0x_`	`Hey all`
`09:00.46`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Blah.`
`09:00.50`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Ima throw up. ^^`
`09:00.58`	`SuraklinSC2`	`That camera control makes me dizzy. .<`
`09:01.00`	`BreakTheB0x`	`Anyone know how Iwould go about making an add-on for a building that doesn't have one?`
`09:01.27`	`Huesy`	`Home time :)`
`09:02.03`	`SuraklinSC2`	`hr?`
`09:02.14`	`BreakTheB0x`	`?`
`09:02.31`	`SuraklinSC2`	`points at HR_`
`09:02.52`	`SuraklinSC2`	`And no, I havn't played with add-ons to buildings. ^^`
`09:03.53`	`Nash\|327`	`duration 0 = infinite?`
`09:04.50`	`SuraklinSC2`	`On a buff, yes.`
`09:05.32`	`Nash\|327`	`think I have located the problem :G`
`09:05.52`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Mmmm, problems.`
`09:06.51`	`Resinate`	`guys`
`09:06.59`	`Resinate`	`how can i make a text tag not show thru walls?`
`09:08.01`	`HeyRevolver`	`but the hurt doesn't show. and the pain still grows. some stranger to you and me.`
`09:08.07`	`HeyRevolver`	`BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM BUM`
`09:08.27`	`Resinate`	`lol`
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`09:09.58`	`crazyfingers`	`yo`
`09:15.36`	`Nash\|327`	`one monster ability down :G`
`09:15.54`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Woo.`
`09:16.43`	`Nash\|327`	`now I need to create an egg that hatches into a hydralisk`
`09:17.11`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`09:17.14`	`onetwo`	`590 effects`
`09:17.15`	`onetwo`	`in my rpg now`
`09:17.17`	`onetwo`	`oh god`
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`09:23.37`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Ugh.`
`09:25.01`	`HR_`	`wow 590 is a lot`
`09:25.05`	`HR_`	`i have like 20`
`09:25.20`	`HR_`	`i only have about 5 or 7 weapons in my battle racing map`
`09:25.39`	`HR_`	`bout 90k of custom script tho`
`09:25.44`	`HR_`	`counting a large array`
`09:25.56`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Man.`
`09:25.58`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Your map.`
`09:26.03`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Made me queasy. ^^`
`09:26.21`	`SuraklinSC2`	`It didn't count my first lap either.`
`09:26.26`	`SuraklinSC2`	`And the cpu's ganged up on me. :/`
`09:27.00`	`HR_`	`you missed a checkpoint i bet`
`09:27.00`	`SuraklinSC2`	`ima go to bed tho.`
`09:27.08`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Well, warn me! ;)`
`09:29.24`	`rooj`	`ok`
`09:29.30`	`rooj`	`are Weapons just graphics`
`09:29.45`	`rooj`	`where do i edit a units attack range`
`09:30.43`	`rooj`	`nevermind`
`09:30.44`	`rooj`	`;x`
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`09:32.01`	`HR_`	`you know whats funny as hell`
`09:32.14`	`HR_`	`in my racing map i have these cows that partially block the road`
`09:32.27`	`HR_`	`and they have the behavior herd mentality`
`09:32.29`	`rooj`	`moos`
`09:32.43`	`HR_`	`so they kinda come towards you automatically`
`09:32.48`	`HR_`	`the whole group of em`
`09:32.56`	`HR_`	`and they will trap you against a wall`
`09:33.11`	`HR_`	`and when they run in to you if your stop they butt you around with their heads`
`09:33.27`	`HR_`	`cause they have higher push priority`
`09:33.42`	`HR_`	`i need a moo .ogg`
`09:35.54`	`HR_`	`theres giant zergling balls that squish you`
`09:39.54`	`Arthas-2`	`Don't think, drink!`
`09:40.55`	`HR_`	`looking for people to try out my racing map on US`
`09:41.48`	`HR_`	`SC Rally !!!! if you see it, play it`
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`09:53.29`	`Huesy`	`If anyone knows a bit around the data editor can I please get some opinions on this: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/10743-moving-to-attack-range/`
`09:53.32`	`Huesy`	`Thanks :)`
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`09:56.55`	`HR_`	`huesy, minimum scan range`
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`09:57.56`	`HR_`	`minimum scan range is similar to aquire range from wc3`
`09:58.44`	`Huesy`	`Isn't that for automatically aquiring the target?`
`09:58.49`	`Huesy`	`acquiring*`
`10:00.44`	`Huesy`	`Yeah I believe it is, just tried it. If you select a target to attack, it doesn't need to scan as it already knows its target.`
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`10:06.36`	`HR_`	`huesy, for that maybe you can trigger when unit starts attacking, or unit issued order, and check range, and stop`
`10:07.23`	`Huesy`	`Yeah that was the backup plan. It seems like it'd be possible through the data editor somehow though, and that's the bit that's annoying me :P`
`10:07.34`	`HR_`	`play SC Rally on US !!1`
`10:07.41`	`Huesy`	`SEA :(`
`10:07.49`	`HR_`	`validator on the attack`
`10:08.04`	`HR_`	`can u check range in a validator? idk if that would work either`
`10:08.11`	`Huesy`	`Good point`
`10:08.21`	`HR_`	`might move there first before validating`
`10:08.59`	`HR_`	`its just ONE trigger, i got tons of script in my map`
`10:09.57`	`Huesy`	`hehe I know :)`
`10:10.12`	`Huesy`	`Only validators seem to be in the effect, which is the damage (after moving and shooting)`
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`10:15.12`	`Otixa`	`Â¬_Â¬`
`10:16.37`	`Xackery`	`>.>`
`10:16.46`	`Otixa`	`smacks Xackery`
`10:16.58`	`Xackery`	`stupid unit likes to fly away`
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`10:18.35`	`Xackery`	`on bright side I bet I could make an elevator with it`
`10:19.13`	`Huesy`	`If all else fails, make an elevator.`
`10:19.30`	`Xackery`	`http://www.xfire.com/video/35a223/`
`10:20.34`	`Huesy`	`I like :D`
`10:21.12`	`Otixa`	`Xackery, how'd you do collision?`
`10:21.31`	`Xackery`	`it's actually a bug`
`10:21.34`	`Xackery`	`lol`
`10:21.39`	`Otixa`	`<_<`
`10:21.42`	`Otixa`	`how? :P`
`10:21.53`	`Xackery`	`as in i'm not telling it to raise in the air`
`10:22.02`	`Xackery`	`it just magically is`
`10:22.05`	`Otixa`	`oh`
`10:22.06`	`Otixa`	`hax`
`10:22.07`	`Otixa`	`;/`
`10:22.18`	`Xackery`	`but I bet I could create the illusion of it`
`10:22.19`	`Otixa`	`I need to figure out a way to do per-polygon collision`
`10:22.22`	`Xackery`	`it's not my real intention`
`10:22.32`	`Xackery`	`from what i've seen`
`10:22.37`	`Xackery`	`collision...`
`10:22.44`	`Xackery`	`is via foot prints or a unit's movement radius`
`10:22.57`	`Otixa`	`I need per-polygon tho ;p`
`10:23.09`	`Xackery`	`what you need and what is there`
`10:23.12`	`Xackery`	`are two different things`
`10:23.45`	`Xackery`	`if it's a stationary model, you could use footprints to draw out the outline of polygons`
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`10:32.31`	`Xackery`	`rofl.`
`10:32.42`	`Xackery`	`i can has fish`
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`10:41.37`	`HR_`	`my map has real bridges :Ã¾`
`10:42.00`	`Xackery`	`can you go under them?`
`10:42.10`	`Xackery`	`while another unit is above them?`
`10:42.13`	`HR_`	`ya`
`10:42.13`	`Huesy`	`It's not real unless there's a troll under it`
`10:42.17`	`HR_`	`haha`
`10:42.42`	`HR_`	`bottom unit gets ignore terrain height`
`10:42.50`	`HR_`	`and the bridge it at zero`
`10:43.02`	`HR_`	`so you dont have to mess with setting the units height`
`10:43.35`	`Xackery`	`ahh`
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`10:43.43`	`HR_`	`and a trigger for the walls, depending on where you entered the region`
`10:44.21`	`HR_`	`oddly, the camera doesnt recognize bridge height unless you disable the ui`
`10:44.56`	`HR_`	`it was pretty tough, with all the r&d and all, especially getting my cpy drivers to cross paths without gettin confused`
`10:45.42`	`HR_`	`camera height is still an issue, either top or bottom the height is off unless you do something`
`10:45.54`	`Xackery`	`hm HR_ offhand where's the field that determines where a projectile is launched from`
`10:46.04`	`Xackery`	`if you don't know offhand, just say, i'll muck around to find it`
`10:46.23`	`HR_`	`source source unit`
`10:46.24`	`HR_`	`?`
`10:46.26`	`HR_`	`idk`
`10:46.46`	`HR_`	`i think thats it, in the effects somewhere, but im not sure, on my map sometimes they seem to come out of nowhere`
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`10:46.52`	`Resinate`	`is anyone here`
`10:46.53`	`HR_`	`probably because i shoot while moving`
`10:47.00`	`Resinate`	`how do i use player teams`
`10:47.10`	`Resinate`	`as a condition`
`10:47.31`	`Resinate`	`i have this`
`10:47.32`	`Resinate`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:47.45`	`Resinate`	`how do i use that for later use lol`
`10:48.20`	`HR_`	`FieldFlame Missiles - Missile Target - Impact Location +Target Unit FieldFlame Missiles - Missile Target - Launch Location +Source Unit`
`10:48.59`	`HR_`	`what do you mean use it later`
`10:49.23`	`Resinate`	`i got it`
`10:49.26`	`HR_`	`k`
`10:49.42`	`Resinate`	`i was looking for this`
`10:49.42`	`Resinate`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:49.48`	`Resinate`	`but i found it on my own`
`10:51.03`	`HR_`	`well im outta here, i got 12 improvements on the list for tomorrow`
`10:51.27`	`Xackery`	`nite`
`10:51.46`	`Kalekin`	`HR, you say you have bridges working without triggers?`
`10:52.22`	`Sevenix`	`hm, terrainobjects?`
`10:52.30`	`Sevenix`	`you say you can do them by triggers?`
`10:52.32`	`Xackery`	`yummy.`
`10:52.37`	`Xackery`	`this is looking sexy.`
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`10:54.50`	`Xackery`	`howdy jesus`
`10:54.57`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`hey`
`10:55.17`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`too much work left to do =(`
`10:55.33`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`my todo list grows bigger as the deadline comes closer`
`10:55.42`	`Resinate`	`xactery`
`10:55.49`	`Resinate`	`u entering the custom map contest?`
`10:57.09`	`Xackery`	`moo`
`10:57.13`	`Xackery`	`Already did`
`10:57.33`	`Resinate`	`lol`
`10:57.44`	`Resinate`	`can u submit a map that u published?`
`10:57.55`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`what map did you enter?`
`10:57.58`	`Xackery`	`Nope. that would be posting it`
`10:58.15`	`Resinate`	`what kind of map are they looking?`
`10:58.18`	`Xackery`	`A secret one.`
`10:58.20`	`Resinate`	`must me 1 player one`
`10:58.32`	`Xackery`	`So, check out this vid once it's done uploading. It's kinda nifty.`
`10:58.33`	`Resinate`	`can we see what map u submitted lol`
`10:58.38`	`Xackery`	`Has some issues here or there.`
`10:58.51`	`Resinate`	`i should show a video of my map lol`
`10:58.58`	`Resinate`	`btw xactery`
`10:58.58`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`do you need to submit a video of the map btw?`
`10:59.03`	`Resinate`	`can blizz prove that u submitted it`
`10:59.06`	`Resinate`	`if u delete it`
`10:59.06`	`Xackery`	`no`
`10:59.10`	`Xackery`	`@ szj`
`10:59.12`	`Resinate`	`XD`
`10:59.21`	`Xackery`	`not sure @ res what you're asking`
`10:59.29`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`they have logs Resinate`
`10:59.30`	`Resinate`	`ok i published the map`
`10:59.33`	`Resinate`	`what if i deleted it`
`10:59.35`	`Resinate`	`from bnet`
`10:59.35`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`big big logs`
`10:59.38`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`all knowing`
`10:59.39`	`Resinate`	`than submitted it`
`10:59.41`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`all seeing`
`10:59.42`	`Resinate`	`to contest`
`10:59.52`	`Xackery`	`I dunno.`
`10:59.55`	`Xackery`	`I don't work for blizzard.`
`10:59.56`	`Resinate`	`lol`
`11:00.04`	`Resinate`	`i know my map would go in the top lol`
`11:00.10`	`Resinate`	`everyone whos played loved it`
`11:00.11`	`Xackery`	`I've been asked if I work for blizzard a coulpe times, though. lol`
`11:00.16`	`Resinate`	`dude`
`11:00.20`	`Resinate`	`send me that invite LOL`
`11:00.34`	`Resinate`	`i wanna get out of this state`
`11:00.43`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`thats not what he said :P`
`11:00.46`	`Resinate`	`working for blizz > 5000`
`11:00.55`	`Xackery`	`Let's just let him think whatever he wants, SZJ.`
`11:00.59`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`lol`
`11:01.00`	`Resinate`	`?`
`11:01.04`	`Resinate`	`what`
`11:01.05`	`Xackery`	`Nothing, continue.`
`11:01.10`	`Resinate`	`..`
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`11:01.17`	`Resinate`	`did u get my porno u owed me?`
`11:01.34`	`Resinate`	`u said if i helped on that one map u would give me this epic porno`
`11:01.49`	`Xackery`	`Hm.`
`11:01.56`	`Xackery`	`I'm not sure i've ever asked anyone to ever help me with a map..`
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`11:01.59`	`Xackery`	`Maybe for tips..`
`11:02.02`	`Xackery`	`But`
`11:02.19`	`Xackery`	`Oh. I like to pawn off making buttons.`
`11:02.23`	`Xackery`	`Haha.`
`11:02.31`	`Resinate`	`LOL`
`11:02.33`	`Resinate`	`button is soo ez`
`11:02.44`	`Xackery`	`That's why I like pawning it off.`
`11:02.51`	`Xackery`	`time consuming`
`11:03.09`	`Resinate`	`xackery`
`11:03.09`	`Xackery`	`http://www.xfire.com/video/35a2e3/ There you go`
`11:03.11`	`Resinate`	`i have a question`
`11:03.22`	`Resinate`	`what do u know about text tags`
`11:03.33`	`Resinate`	`or ways to make a name tag`
`11:04.07`	`Resinate`	`ROFL`
`11:04.07`	`Xackery`	`I know that they tag text.`
`11:04.12`	`Resinate`	`yea`
`11:04.13`	`Resinate`	`i know`
`11:04.19`	`Resinate`	`but theres a glitch with it`
`11:04.20`	`Xackery`	`But i didn't know you knew.`
`11:04.24`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`whats the question?`
`11:04.28`	`Resinate`	`where u can see it thru walls`
`11:04.29`	`Xackery`	`So that's why I made sure you know, now.`
`11:04.44`	`Resinate`	`i need a way to make a name tag`
`11:04.49`	`Resinate`	`that cant be seen thru a wall`
`11:06.24`	`Xackery`	`Not sure, maybe a region check and hide/show them.`
`11:07.21`	`Resinate`	`WF`
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`11:07.26`	`Ashamed`	`good morning`
`11:07.32`	`Resinate`	`apparently u can headshot units`
`11:07.43`	`Resinate`	`theres stuff in the editor for it`
`11:07.44`	`Resinate`	`lol`
`11:07.54`	`Ashamed`	`hell yeahz you can`
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`11:08.46`	`Xackery`	`Hrm. Iwonder where the "Pickup" event is.`
`11:10.59`	`Resinate`	`lol`
`11:11.02`	`Resinate`	`u dont need that`
`11:11.08`	`Resinate`	`its ezer from trigger`
`11:11.15`	`Resinate`	`no data edits needed`
`11:11.34`	`Xackery`	`my vid is purely data editor`
`11:11.36`	`Xackery`	`no triggers`
`11:12.02`	`Xackery`	`no reason to start using it now just for pickup. Will have to figure it out. XD`
`11:12.13`	`Resinate`	`its under behaviors`
`11:12.29`	`Resinate`	`btw i wanna know`
`11:12.35`	`Resinate`	`what kind of map did u submit`
`11:12.38`	`Resinate`	`rts rpg`
`11:12.40`	`Resinate`	`fps`
`11:12.53`	`Xackery`	`Why do you care? lol`
`11:12.57`	`rooj`	`thats funy`
`11:12.58`	`rooj`	`funny`
`11:13.00`	`Resinate`	`lol`
`11:13.01`	`rooj`	`thats what i want to create`
`11:13.07`	`rooj`	`a first person RTS RPG`
`11:13.17`	`Resinate`	`is doom rpg?`
`11:13.18`	`rooj`	`bones xackery`
`11:13.21`	`rooj`	`no`
`11:13.40`	`Resinate`	`i have a TP-RTS map`
`11:13.43`	`Resinate`	`almost done`
`11:13.49`	`Resinate`	`clone to UT2004 jailbreak`
`11:14.01`	`Resinate`	`if i ever get a game made with 10 ppl ill make a video of it`
`11:14.01`	`rooj`	`i havent worked on my map in a couple weeks heh`
`11:14.14`	`Resinate`	`i just dumped like 50 hours in like 5 days`
`11:14.15`	`Resinate`	`LOL`
`11:14.24`	`Resinate`	`into this map`
`11:14.46`	`Resinate`	`only thing left is a char select`
`11:14.48`	`Resinate`	`and its done`
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`11:15.01`	`Resinate`	`this map is like pure triggers LOL`
`11:15.25`	`Milo__`	`Looking for testers for a map in advanced state :)`
`11:15.38`	`Resinate`	`what kind`
`11:15.39`	`Milo__`	`on eu`
`11:15.42`	`Resinate`	`and what realm`
`11:15.46`	`Resinate`	`nm`
`11:15.46`	`Milo__`	`a hero arena`
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`11:22.04`	`Resinate`	`LOL!!`
`11:22.12`	`Resinate`	`maraduar looks badass in fps mode`
`11:29.56`	`Resinate`	`WOW`
`11:30.08`	`Resinate`	`my WASD is like almost completly lag free LOL`
`11:31.00`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`on battlenet?`
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`11:31.16`	`Icebane`	`Heyah!`
`11:31.19`	`Resinate`	`PointWithOffsetPolar(UnitGetPosition(lv_targetUnit), 0.1, libWASD_gf_GetWASDAngle(lp_player) + CameraGetYaw(lp_player))`
`11:31.21`	`Resinate`	`it was 1.2`
`11:31.22`	`Resinate`	`LOL`
`11:31.24`	`Resinate`	`i set it to 0.1`
`11:31.34`	`Resinate`	`way more responsive`
`11:32.02`	`Resinate`	`omg i can use this system for attacking too lol`
`11:34.32`	`Resinate`	`dam`
`11:34.37`	`Resinate`	`i cant use anytyhing under 0.25`
`11:34.47`	`Resinate`	`else my run system breaks lol`
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`11:39.39`	`Resinate`	`btw`
`11:39.43`	`Resinate`	`i know why it lags`
`11:39.51`	`Resinate`	`the trigger key pressed is bugged`
`11:40.06`	`Resinate`	`i think they plan on making client sided on next patch`
`11:40.16`	`Resinate`	`right now its server sided trigger`
`11:41.07`	`RazielZ`	`Client sided?`
`11:41.12`	`RazielZ`	`I sense incoming HAAAAX!`
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`11:42.18`	`Resinate`	`who the hell would hack sc2 LOL`
`11:42.43`	`Resinate`	`is making anything u want not good enough?`
`11:43.21`	`RazielZ`	`I mean actual hacks >.>`
`11:43.25`	`Icebane`	`Resinate: Why not? Someone hacked wc3! xD`
`11:43.26`	`RazielZ`	`to actually hack it.`
`11:43.32`	`RazielZ`	`As in gain unfair advantage ingame`
`11:43.46`	`Icebane`	`RazielZ: god I fucking hate those retards who do that`
`11:43.54`	`RazielZ`	`Yeah`
`11:44.10`	`Resinate`	`good news`
`11:44.11`	`RazielZ`	`And clientsided things are vulnerable to hacking, that's what I meant`
`11:44.15`	`Resinate`	`90% of the worlds hackers`
`11:44.19`	`Resinate`	`hack maplestory`
`11:44.20`	`Resinate`	`lol`
`11:44.30`	`Icebane`	`Haha`
`11:44.32`	`Resinate`	`i swear hacking other games is almost non exist`
`11:44.33`	`Resinate`	`but in maple`
`11:44.44`	`Resinate`	`u have to know how to hack just to keep ur self safe`
`11:44.46`	`Icebane`	`Nono, I've seen lots of maphackers in DotA <.<`
`11:44.57`	`Resinate`	`wc3?`
`11:44.59`	`Resinate`	`or sc2`
`11:45.00`	`Icebane`	`yepp`
`11:45.02`	`Icebane`	`wc3`
`11:45.06`	`RazielZ`	`WC3 ofcourse.`
`11:45.07`	`Resinate`	`hey`
`11:45.10`	`Resinate`	`im curious`
`11:45.17`	`Resinate`	`is there a WASD system in wc3?`
`11:45.17`	`Icebane`	`:)`
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`11:45.21`	`Icebane`	`Yepp`
`11:45.27`	`Resinate`	`how good is it?`
`11:45.29`	`Resinate`	`same as sc2?`
`11:45.31`	`RazielZ`	`lulz.`
`11:45.34`	`Icebane`	`hmm nyaah`
`11:45.35`	`RazielZ`	`worse <.<`
`11:45.39`	`Resinate`	`lol`
`11:45.49`	`Resinate`	`funny`
`11:45.51`	`Resinate`	`in bent`
`11:45.53`	`Resinate`	`bnet`
`11:45.59`	`Resinate`	`my test made the lag worse`
`11:46.02`	`Icebane`	`I would say there has been done some pretty awesome work in the wc3 engine tho`
`11:46.12`	`RazielZ`	`Yeah`
`11:46.13`	`Icebane`	`Firstpersonshooters actually!`
`11:46.13`	`Resinate`	`i wanna know`
`11:46.15`	`Icebane`	`:)`
`11:46.16`	`Resinate`	`over the years`
`11:46.23`	`Resinate`	`what did they change in editor?`
`11:46.25`	`Resinate`	`for it`
`11:46.31`	`Resinate`	`like some of the massive changes`
`11:46.41`	`Icebane`	`Oh, the Data Editor is SICKLY improved`
`11:47.09`	`Icebane`	`Also the trigger editor has been improved a lot, much more dynamic to use imo`
`11:47.23`	`Icebane`	`More functions e t c`
`11:47.24`	`RazielZ`	`I never used the Wc3 editor`
`11:47.26`	`RazielZ`	`<.<`
`11:47.33`	`Icebane`	`But theres something... that makes me ENRAGE!!! <.<`
`11:47.46`	`Xackery`	`:o`
`11:47.48`	`Resinate`	`i wonder if they make a 100% lagfree WASD`
`11:47.51`	`Icebane`	`There is no fucking "Order unit to use (Triggering Order)"!!!`
`11:47.54`	`Resinate`	`i wonder what will happen to sc2`
`11:48.05`	`Xackery`	`Icebane: There should be.`
`11:48.13`	`Icebane`	`You can't reach "Triggering Order" through "issue orders"`
`11:48.14`	`Xackery`	`You maybe just are missing how to use Issue Orders.`
`11:48.18`	`Icebane`	`You tell me if you find it`
`11:48.41`	`Resinate`	`i want an attack system that doesnt use tracers`
`11:48.47`	`Xackery`	`What event are you talking about?`
`11:49.12`	`Xackery`	`Any Unit is issued an order to Ability Command, utilizes "Triggering Order"`
`11:49.36`	`Resinate`	`LOL!!`
`11:50.20`	`Icebane`	`Are you telling me "Issue Order (Ability Command)" == ""Issue Order (Triggering Order)" ?! O_____O`
`11:51.03`	`Xackery`	`Well, one sec.`
`11:51.06`	`Resinate`	`test 2 of bnet lag`
`11:51.18`	`Xackery`	`The only time Triggering Order will have an order stored in it, is when the event "Any Unit is issued an order"`
`11:51.30`	`Xackery`	`aka: He has already been issued that order, so why are you trying to issue an already issued order?`
`11:51.55`	`Icebane`	`I want to give the order to another unit!`
`11:52.04`	`Xackery`	`Alright.`
`11:52.27`	`Icebane`	`Figure and I'll come to your house and give you freshbaked cookies! :>`
`11:52.56`	`RazielZ`	`The cookie is a lie`
`11:53.16`	`Xackery`	`there you go.`
`11:53.55`	`Xackery`	`http://a.imageshack.us/img26/5258/rawrjj.png`
`11:54.11`	`Xackery`	`you need to write a check to ensure it isn't a point-based order or not, or you'll get logic debug errors during runtime`
`11:54.39`	`Icebane`	`At the same time I wan't to rip your head-off I want to hug you xD`
`11:54.46`	`Icebane`	`>.<`
`11:54.50`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Helral\|Work (~BenZegvel@84-245-39-192.dsl.cambrium.nl)`
`11:54.51`	`Icebane`	`Fuck it!`
`11:54.53`	`Icebane`	`xD`
`11:54.58`	`Icebane`	`Oh well, thanks a lot mate`
`11:55.04`	`Xackery`	`haha np`
`11:55.06`	`Helral\|work`	`meows?`
`11:55.13`	`Resinate`	`xackery`
`11:55.18`	`Xackery`	`hi`
`11:55.20`	`RazielZ`	`I like cats`
`11:55.23`	`Resinate`	`would u happen to have a tracer system`
`11:55.24`	`RazielZ`	`I want a cat.`
`11:55.24`	`Nash\|327`	`kittuns`
`11:55.33`	`Helral\|work`	`is famous XD`
`11:55.33`	`Xackery`	`~seen kittuns`
`11:55.41`	`purl`	`Xackery: i haven't seen 'kittuns'`
`11:55.41`	`Resinate`	`or a way to force a unit to use attack`
`11:55.42`	`Icebane`	`yeah I want a cat too =( but my friggin parents don't want one <.<`
`11:55.45`	`Xackery`	`:<`
`11:55.54`	`Helral\|work`	`~seen SC2mapsterkitten`
`11:55.55`	`purl`	`sc2mapsterkitten <~BenZegvel@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 20d 11h 46m 11s ago, saying: 'night all'.`
`11:56.04`	`Helral\|work`	`hmmm 20 days ago already...`
`11:56.19`	`RazielZ`	`~seen deadpeople`
`11:56.20`	`purl`	`RazielZ: i haven't seen 'deadpeople'`
`11:56.21`	`Helral\|work`	`since I last used that nick :P`
`11:56.23`	`RazielZ`	`What?`
`11:56.26`	`RazielZ`	`But I see dead people!`
`11:56.39`	`Helral\|work`	`but do they count as people?`
`11:56.43`	`Xackery`	`issue a unit to attack somewhere, then make a unit uncommandable perhaps`
`11:57.18`	`Helral\|work`	`Resinate: how do you mean force an unit to attack?`
`11:57.58`	`RazielZ`	`Use attack command as opposed to the move command maybe?`
`11:59.07`	`Icebane`	`hey Xackery, want another problem? ;P`
`11:59.14`	`Xackery`	`Maybe.`
`11:59.14`	`Resinate`	`nah`
`11:59.19`	`Xackery`	`If it's like that previous one`
`11:59.20`	`Xackery`	`sure`
`11:59.22`	`Resinate`	`i wanna be able to left click to attack`
`11:59.28`	`Resinate`	`but i might know of a way`
`11:59.35`	`Icebane`	`Cause that way it won't pick targets like what target the triggering order had`
`11:59.48`	`Resinate`	`i was thinking of a cone of damage`
`12:00.03`	`Resinate`	`making the angle very narrow`
`12:00.12`	`Xackery`	`so you're asking, what's the target?`
`12:00.16`	`Resinate`	`nah`
`12:00.22`	`Resinate`	`i wanna know how to make attack req no target`
`12:00.26`	`Xackery`	`(talking to ice, not you res)`
`12:00.32`	`Resinate`	`...`
`12:01.10`	`Helral\|work`	`Resinate: event: mouse click up. Issue order attack point location clicked? (point X of mousepos, Y of mousepos)`
`12:01.30`	`Helral\|work`	`maybe include a detect if there is a unit near that point, ifso then use targeting unit, that unit.`
`12:01.56`	`Icebane`	`Xackery: Waaait... I maybe got it! :)`
`12:02.06`	`Resinate`	`its fps lOL`
`12:02.09`	`Resinate`	`theres no mouse`
`12:02.33`	`RazielZ`	`oh you don't want a move attack you just want to shoot`
`12:02.37`	`RazielZ`	`Make an ability probably`
`12:02.44`	`Helral\|work`	`I didn't know that bit :P then just issue the attack order facing direction`
`12:03.19`	`Helral\|work`	`so basicly, you just trigger the attack ability. I don't know how you handle the shooting in it, but call that bit.`
`12:03.47`	`Helral\|work`	`also diable smart commands`
`12:03.50`	`Helral\|work`	`disable*`
`12:04.16`	`Helral\|work`	`if you haven't done so already. since the smart commands will tell the unit to move to the click location.`
`12:05.43`	`Nash\|327`	`meh my map is down to 70 games/hour :/`
`12:05.45`	`Resinate`	`did u guys know the korhel buildings`
`12:05.52`	`Resinate`	`have cheats on the sides spelt in the lights`
`12:06.03`	`Xackery`	`:/ nash`
`12:06.16`	`Nash\|327`	`it used to be like 350`
`12:06.19`	`Icebane`	`Xackery: yeaah, I solved it.. ty anyway! =) My problem was that some abilities targets a unit for example... when you do "Issue (UnitA) to (Triggering Order)" it doesn't automatically give the units what "Target Unit" the "Triggering Order" targeted.`
`12:06.24`	`Nash\|327`	`how the mighty have fallen`
`12:06.55`	`Milo__`	`327 whats your map?`
`12:07.01`	`Nash\|327`	`Fringe`
`12:07.07`	`Milo__`	`ah`
`12:07.09`	`Milo__`	`the rpg`
`12:07.13`	`Nash\|327`	`yes`
`12:07.47`	`Nash\|327`	`Oh well, back to NWN then, since nobody is playing my map :G`
`12:07.58`	`Xackery`	`:/`
`12:08.04`	`Xackery`	`Have fun in NWN`
`12:08.44`	`Icebane`	`Nash\|327: naaah, just wait man, custom game list will be improved, undoubtly`
`12:09.00`	`Clord`	`that's why typically maps on top was released when game was released`
`12:09.03`	`Icebane`	`(by 2014)`
`12:09.28`	`Icebane`	`Which most of those maps actually aren't very good anyway ;P`
`12:09.40`	`Clord`	`licensed to blizzard... sorry`
`12:09.44`	`Clord`	`you don't own the list`
`12:09.45`	`Clord`	`^^`
`12:10.28`	`Icebane`	`Sometimes I think its not blizzard anymore`
`12:10.36`	`Clord`	`sure it is`
`12:10.40`	`Icebane`	`its Acti-Butlickzzard`
`12:10.41`	`Clord`	`unless they name change`
`12:10.42`	`Clord`	`^^`
`12:10.46`	`Icebane`	`butt*`
`12:10.58`	`Icebane`	`Acti-Buttlickzzard`
`12:11.03`	`Icebane`	`That's their name!`
`12:12.11`	`Xackery`	`Icebane see your msg?`
`12:12.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DiNo29 (~newmail@AMontpellier-158-1-24-29.w90-37.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`12:12.29`	`DiNo29`	`hey`
`12:13.33`	`DiNo29`	`I have a very strange bug on my map. Sometimes, when my unit blink, another ability disappear from it's command cart, and sometimes come back when I blink again :l`
`12:16.34`	`DiNo29`	`hmm, apparently it disappear just when I walk sometimes >_<`
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`12:20.25`	`ReckeD`	`How do you call dialog check boxes with triggers?`
`12:21.38`	`ReckeD`	`lawls found it`
`12:23.20`	`Nash\|327`	`gah, too tired to play NWN`
`12:23.41`	`Nash\|327`	`I'm going to go rest instead`
`12:23.55`	`ReckeD`	`when a player checks a checkbox, does it check it for that player or for all players who can see that checkbox?`
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`12:26.17`	`Helral\|work`	`ReckeD: dialog item usage is based per player.`
`12:27.18`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`meh i wish i understood data editor :<`
`12:27.27`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`i can do these things in trigger but it wont create a pretty effect`
`12:27.52`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`now how would one go about swapping position of units in the data editor`
`12:27.59`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`with a skill`
`12:29.38`	`ReckeD`	`Cheers helral`
`12:30.03`	`ReckeD`	`sweetzombie, blink effect?`
`12:30.25`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`thats only half of it`
`12:30.34`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`and i dont understand data editor so i cant figure anything out`
`12:32.24`	`Xackery`	`szj swap positions?`
`12:32.40`	`Xackery`	`like, you target a unit`
`12:32.43`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`you target a unit`
`12:32.43`	`Xackery`	`that unit goes where you went`
`12:32.47`	`Xackery`	`err, were`
`12:32.52`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`yea`
`12:33.12`	`Xackery`	`give me a sec to think`
`12:33.43`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`looking at blink now cause that is a bit similair but stuff like RefSet ::scope.Launch ::Self scares me`
`12:33.49`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`:<`
`12:34.02`	`Xackery`	`haha`
`12:34.31`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`but changing a blink would be nice`
`12:34.47`	`ReckeD`	`when calling check boxes in triggers`
`12:34.54`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`target unit instead of target point, somehow get the target unit to move aswell`
`12:34.55`	`ReckeD`	`event - dialog item is used`
`12:35.09`	`ReckeD`	`condition - check box[0] = checked`
`12:35.14`	`ReckeD`	`actions - do actions`
`12:35.22`	`ReckeD`	`if someone checks a dialog box`
`12:35.39`	`ReckeD`	`will the condition fire before the dialog box is checked, or after?`
`12:35.44`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`after`
`12:36.17`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`you can always test it you know`
`12:36.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Arthas- (~zet@ip3-100.bon.riksnet.se)`
`12:36.41`	`ReckeD`	`yeah trying to zombie`
`12:36.46`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`Xackery are you thinking ? :P`
`12:36.59`	`Xackery`	`Yeah, was gonna make you a map`
`12:37.04`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`:o`
`12:37.28`	`Xackery`	`plus it lets me ensure it all works`
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`12:41.14`	`Resinate`	`guys`
`12:41.18`	`Resinate`	`whats the name of the TV`
`12:42.07`	`Xackery`	`television`
`12:42.44`	`Resinate`	`...`
`12:43.13`	`Resinate`	`gotta give a smart ass answer to everything someone is gonna ask u`
`12:43.31`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`ask a smart question then lol`
`12:43.33`	`Helral\|work`	`hmm a syncmaster of samsung then?`
`12:45.05`	`Milotical`	`LG LH6000 ?`
`12:45.15`	`Resinate`	`i was asking whats the tv name in the game`
`12:45.17`	`Resinate`	`its unit name`
`12:45.17`	`Clord`	`I make card game update soon.. it has more hotkeys plus ranks up to 2 million exp`
`12:45.18`	`Clord`	`=)`
`12:45.20`	`Resinate`	`or doodad name`
`12:45.29`	`ReckeD`	`wow, this is amazingly complicated NERDRAGE`
`12:45.30`	`RazielZ`	`Clord-lolhotkeys`
`12:45.31`	`Helral\|work`	`Resinate: ahhh. no idea.`
`12:45.42`	`Clord`	`they wanted hotkeys for upgrades too`
`12:45.42`	`Xackery`	`k szj got it working`
`12:45.59`	`Xackery`	`want me to just give you steps?`
`12:46.04`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`testing my, no doubt, broken way aswell now`
`12:46.05`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`one sec :P`
`12:46.19`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`aww`
`12:46.20`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`it teleports`
`12:46.24`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`but no swap`
`12:46.28`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`yes please tell me lol`
`12:46.50`	`Xackery`	`got an ability that's effect - target type, yeah?`
`12:47.02`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`Effect - Target yes`
`12:47.05`	`Resinate`	`ROFL!!!`
`12:47.06`	`Xackery`	`alrighty`
`12:47.06`	`Resinate`	`LMAO!!!`
`12:47.08`	`Resinate`	`WOW`
`12:47.09`	`Xackery`	`Two effects`
`12:47.14`	`Xackery`	`well, 3`
`12:47.14`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`got that too`
`12:47.18`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`set aswell`
`12:47.19`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`so 3`
`12:47.21`	`Xackery`	`yep`
`12:47.21`	`Resinate`	`someone has a picture of their baby on a doodad in the game`
`12:47.27`	`Xackery`	`Set -> Calls 2 teleports`
`12:47.31`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`yes`
`12:47.42`	`Xackery`	`call one Swap (Teleport Caster)`
`12:47.43`	`Xackery`	`or whatever`
`12:47.46`	`Xackery`	`and settings are`
`12:47.54`	`Xackery`	`Source + Caster Unit`
`12:47.57`	`ReckeD`	`what makes you think its their baby resinate? probably someones girlfriend`
`12:48.00`	`Xackery`	`Placement Around + Caster Unit`
`12:48.04`	`Xackery`	`Target + Target Point`
`12:48.06`	`Xackery`	`Unit + Caster`
`12:48.16`	`Xackery`	`second effect teleport is`
`12:48.36`	`Xackery`	`Source + Target Unit, Placement Around + Target Unit, Target + Caster Unit, Unit + Target`
`12:49.25`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`alright`
`12:49.49`	`Xackery`	`the first one initiated will get offset a bit`
`12:50.00`	`Xackery`	`since the unit is still there a split second before teleporting`
`12:50.10`	`Xackery`	`but the second teleport will be right where that unit was`
`12:50.26`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`sexy`
`12:50.28`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`it works great`
`12:50.39`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`:D`
`12:50.46`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`perfect`
`12:50.51`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`exactly like i wanted my minigame to be`
`12:50.53`	`Xackery`	`That wasn't hard, was it?`
`12:50.54`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`thanks <3`
`12:50.54`	`Xackery`	`:P`
`12:51.02`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`i was actually close`
`12:51.16`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Darkarbiter (dcfd3663@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.253.54.99)`
`12:51.17`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`didnt have the placement around and had points isntead of units`
`12:51.23`	`Darkarbiter`	`hey`
`12:51.23`	`Xackery`	`Yeah when you said yes to my first couple questions, I was surprised you even asked for help, heh`
`12:51.26`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`but im shocked i had the set and 2 effects right :o`
`12:51.32`	`Darkarbiter`	`Need computer help`
`12:51.38`	`Darkarbiter`	`who here is good with computers?`
`12:51.50`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`could you do me 1 more tiny favour btw? :D`
`12:51.58`	`Xackery`	`it's funny how when i answer questions`
`12:52.03`	`Xackery`	`it immediately follows another Q`
`12:52.03`	`Xackery`	`:3`
`12:52.07`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`:P`
`12:52.07`	`Xackery`	`anyways, what's up?`
`12:52.08`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/data/10666-simple-beam-does-not-work/`
`12:52.12`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`i cant solve that`
`12:52.15`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`its just a simple beam`
`12:52.17`	`Xackery`	`beams suck`
`12:52.18`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`follow PM's tut`
`12:52.22`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`but something is broke`
`12:52.41`	`Xackery`	`did you make the hero selection library?`
`12:52.44`	`*** join/#sc2mapster mikelat (~mikelat@CPE000f3d5d72d5-CM000f9f776f28.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`12:52.45`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`ye`
`12:52.53`	`Xackery`	`the one with the rotating hero view thingie?`
`12:52.57`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`yep`
`12:53.00`	`Xackery`	`ah, nifty`
`12:53.03`	`Darkarbiter`	`Anyone have any idea`
`12:53.13`	`Xackery`	`I should check it out some time and give tips`
`12:53.17`	`Darkarbiter`	`how to change resolution on windows 7 in safe mode, so that it affects your resolution when not in safe mode`
`12:53.29`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`Darkarbiter: google`
`12:53.50`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`the hero selection is pretty much finished`
`12:53.55`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`dont really want to work on it anymore :P`
`12:53.58`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`just bugfixes`
`12:54.02`	`Darkarbiter`	`Google`
`12:54.04`	`Darkarbiter`	`really isn't helping`
`12:54.05`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`tbh i cant think of that much stuff to add`
`12:55.02`	`Xackery`	`haha ok`
`12:55.30`	`Darkarbiter`	`this is really difficult`
`12:56.19`	`RazielZ`	`Lemme guess, you fucked the resolution up and in normal mode the screen doesn't fit and you can't change it?`
`12:56.19`	`RazielZ`	`>.>`
`12:56.35`	`Darkarbiter`	`Guess again`
`12:56.42`	`RazielZ`	`Hmmm`
`12:56.43`	`Darkarbiter`	`my moniter doesn't tell my computer much`
`12:56.47`	`RazielZ`	`Your video card got fried?`
`12:56.49`	`Xackery`	`http://forums.techarena.in/monitor-video-cards/1186512.htm`
`12:56.54`	`Darkarbiter`	`so it thinks it has really high max resolutions possible`
`12:56.57`	`Xackery`	`i'm not responsible for what you potentially break Darkarbiter`
`12:57.03`	`Darkarbiter`	`normally, this is only an issue with games etc`
`12:57.09`	`Darkarbiter`	`which, eventually gets fixed`
`12:57.13`	`Darkarbiter`	`however`
`12:57.29`	`Xackery`	`but i'd say reg edit it`
`12:57.31`	`Darkarbiter`	`this moniter identifies itself as ... well nothing so my comp think's it's a default analog moniter`
`12:57.35`	`Darkarbiter`	`indeed`
`12:57.52`	`Darkarbiter`	`I brought my computer to another annonymous moniter`
`12:57.57`	`Darkarbiter`	`and put it at some high resolution`
`12:58.04`	`Darkarbiter`	`and that worked etc`
`12:58.06`	`Darkarbiter`	`bring it back`
`12:58.15`	`Darkarbiter`	`computer starts up, but once it gets to login screen it says out of scan range`
`12:58.25`	`Darkarbiter`	`safe mode is 1280x1024 60 hz which works fine`
`12:58.38`	`Darkarbiter`	`but if I change res in safe mode it doesn't affect normal mode`
`12:58.49`	`Darkarbiter`	`what I need, is either registry, or a program that forces a resolution before the login screen`
`12:58.50`	`*** join/#sc2mapster IhateBanelings (ad4e1d16@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.78.29.22)`
`12:58.53`	`Darkarbiter`	`or at`
`12:59.00`	`Xackery`	`SweetZombieJesus: I'm not entirely sure, but try setting the parameter "At Caster" in your Marine - Shoot actor`
`12:59.00`	`Darkarbiter`	`I might be able to get it to auto login if that helps`
`12:59.15`	`Xackery`	`"add term" I mean`
`12:59.19`	`Darkarbiter`	`and yes I found that link`
`12:59.28`	`Darkarbiter`	`I even found default resolution in registry`
`12:59.34`	`Darkarbiter`	`which assumably is what safe mode starts with`
`12:59.47`	`Darkarbiter`	`it's at settings I know my moniter can display so changing that won't help`
`12:59.47`	`IhateBanelings`	`Hi guys.. i got a euro map, but nothing in the file has a name. is there any way to fix it?`
`13:00.07`	`Xackery`	`seems you've worked it already dark, should go ask a tech support forum or keep googling.`
`13:00.38`	`IhateBanelings`	`i mean everything`
`13:00.45`	`IhateBanelings`	`or`
`13:00.46`	`IhateBanelings`	`XD`
`13:00.48`	`IhateBanelings`	`nvm`
`13:06.16`	`thenk`	`anyone know how the 'Target Unit/Point' or Target - Value underneath Behaviour Targets work?`
`13:07.30`	`Darkarbiter`	`it seems the fix might be`
`13:07.34`	`Darkarbiter`	`uninstall drivers then reboot`
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`13:10.36`	`Treepio`	`Darkarbiter: can you set the resolution your trying in windows ?.`
`13:11.33`	`Treepio`	`sorry. didn't read the entire question :)`
`13:12.10`	`Treepio`	`you can remove your video card in safe mode and reboot`
`13:12.32`	`Treepio`	`when windows load it will autodetect it again and set default resolution`
`13:15.08`	`Treepio`	`he left. too bad for him. this works :)`
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`13:23.26`	`thenk`	`is there an explanation of Target - Market anywhere?`
`13:23.32`	`thenk`	`er, Target - Marker`
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`13:30.31`	`Jum-Jum`	`wow gg`
`13:30.39`	`Jum-Jum`	`messing around with game variants completely corrupts your map`
`13:30.44`	`Jum-Jum`	`making it impossible to publish it again`
`13:30.57`	`Resinate`	`nope`
`13:30.59`	`Resinate`	`what u do`
`13:31.00`	`Helral\|work`	`Jum-Jum: remove them all and hit generate deafult.`
`13:31.05`	`Jum-Jum`	`thats what I did`
`13:31.05`	`Resinate`	`yea`
`13:31.11`	`Jum-Jum`	`removed, added defaults`
`13:31.13`	`Jum-Jum`	`same error`
`13:31.19`	`Jum-Jum`	`VALIDATION_WORKING_SET_INSTANCE_FAIL`
`13:31.31`	`Resinate`	`u need to delete it`
`13:31.33`	`Resinate`	`all vars`
`13:31.35`	`Resinate`	`in there`
`13:31.38`	`Resinate`	`and remake a new one`
`13:31.41`	`Resinate`	`BTW`
`13:31.43`	`Resinate`	`u have to delete it`
`13:31.45`	`Resinate`	`the save it`
`13:31.49`	`Resinate`	`then remake it`
`13:31.52`	`Jum-Jum`	`hmz`
`13:31.56`	`Resinate`	`then*`
`13:32.03`	`Resinate`	`i had this error`
`13:32.05`	`Resinate`	`many times`
`13:33.07`	`Jum-Jum`	`now im getting VALIDATION_WORKING_SET_SCORE_SCREEN`
`13:33.15`	`Xackery`	`that's pretty epic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhDcd8DZK_o&feature=player_embedded`
`13:33.36`	`Xackery`	`I got that validation error Jum-Jum when I tried to have 16 User-controllable players`
`13:33.54`	`Jum-Jum`	`I have two players and 5 computers`
`13:34.00`	`Xackery`	`ok so not that`
`13:34.02`	`Jum-Jum`	`and they are on 1 2 3 4 5 6 and 7`
`13:34.06`	`Xackery`	`are any set to the color pink?`
`13:34.07`	`Xackery`	`XD`
`13:34.21`	`Jum-Jum`	`well all computers are set to orange`
`13:34.25`	`Jum-Jum`	`then i set them to some random colors`
`13:34.31`	`Jum-Jum`	`i'll give them the top colors then`
`13:34.32`	`Xackery`	`maybe try that just to see`
`13:34.41`	`Xackery`	`not uniforming colors, at least to see if it publishes`
`13:35.50`	`Jum-Jum`	`still set score screen error`
`13:36.28`	`Jum-Jum`	`yeah its the game variants messing it up`
`13:36.36`	`Jum-Jum`	`removed all of them, saved, publish works`
`13:37.13`	`Resinate`	`man`
`13:37.19`	`Resinate`	`i sure as hell did alot in 3 days LOL`
`13:37.32`	`Resinate`	`so much more little stiff to add`
`13:37.53`	`RazielZ`	`Hmmm`
`13:37.54`	`Jum-Jum`	`so far everything in my map seems to work`
`13:37.59`	`RazielZ`	`I require additional slaves...`
`13:38.05`	`Resinate`	`i need 9 of them`
`13:38.06`	`Resinate`	`LOL`
`13:38.07`	`RazielZ`	`Where do I get a team?`
`13:38.10`	`Jum-Jum`	`i bsaically jsut did a 2 player coop map for my friends, and they defend against waves of enemies, i did it all serious`
`13:38.16`	`Jum-Jum`	`like very nice terrain and voice over`
`13:38.20`	`Resinate`	`i might just use comps`
`13:38.21`	`Resinate`	`lol`
`13:38.23`	`Jum-Jum`	`but at the 4th wave they are just going to get stomped SO hard`
`13:38.29`	`Jum-Jum`	`having like all the custom units in there`
`13:38.32`	`Jum-Jum`	`nukes all over there base`
`13:38.39`	`Jum-Jum`	`just excessive amounts of defeat`
`13:38.40`	`Jum-Jum`	`\o/`
`13:38.48`	`Resinate`	`i have hacks`
`13:38.51`	`Resinate`	`so ill win`
`13:38.52`	`Resinate`	`XD`
`13:39.00`	`Resinate`	`\|o?`
`13:39.04`	`Resinate`	`afk now`
`13:39.10`	`Resinate`	`i gotto college in 2 hours`
`13:39.10`	`Resinate`	`XD`
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`13:41.38`	`Blackthorn`	`Using a / before a message in a game doesn't display it to other players,`
`13:41.46`	`Blackthorn`	`but I can't seem to get the map to see it,`
`13:42.21`	`Blackthorn`	`thought it would be nice to be able to use chat commands without others seeing what your doing.`
`13:43.59`	`Treepio`	`there is a chat for all and allies. can't you make a group for each player ?`
`13:44.16`	`Blackthorn`	`Thats true`
`13:44.31`	`Blackthorn`	`in W3 I'd usualy just set chat to observers,`
`13:44.55`	`Blackthorn`	`Just seems weird that they'd hide / commands but not let you access them,`
`13:45.04`	`Blackthorn`	`unless they are for bnet commands`
`13:45.08`	`Blackthorn`	`that would make sense`
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`13:46.36`	`Treepio`	`player 7 is a weirdo..`
`13:46.50`	`Blackthorn`	`:o`
`13:47.17`	`Treepio`	`he is. players 1-6 work. but not player 7. :)`
`13:48.53`	`Xaragoth`	`7 is a mystical number, right? :P`
`13:49.02`	`Treepio`	`I live in nr 7. lol`
`13:49.26`	`Treepio`	`I think 7 is the new junxed number.`
`13:49.30`	`Treepio`	`i*`
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`13:50.57`	`Treepio`	`maby my array is too small..`
`13:51.09`	`Xaragoth`	`7 would be a array of 6`
`13:51.44`	`Treepio`	`trying a run with 1 higher.`
`13:53.39`	`Treepio`	`woot. :)`
`13:53.49`	`Jum-Jum`	`is there a maxsize on loading screens?`
`13:53.53`	`Jum-Jum`	`mine just dissappears when I save it`
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`13:56.42`	`Jum-Jum`	`this really puts you off from making any other maps`
`13:56.51`	`Jum-Jum`	`so fucking terribly buggy editor`
`13:59.42`	`Sevenix`	`max size?`
`13:59.45`	`Sevenix`	`dissapears?`
`14:00.00`	`Sevenix`	`just make a 1024x1024 .dds`
`14:00.33`	`Jum-Jum`	`doing different sizes at .tga`
`14:04.49`	`ReckeD`	`Someone needs to write a program that will display game dialogs/leaderboards/timers as they will display in game but have them updated at real time`
`14:05.08`	`ReckeD`	`so people can create their dialogs and modify them easier`
`14:05.28`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I was thinking of doing something like that.`
`14:05.31`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`A UI designer`
`14:05.41`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`and then it will just spit out a library or something displaying the UI as you have designed it`
`14:06.16`	`ReckeD`	`yep`
`14:06.18`	`ReckeD`	`that would be awesome`
`14:06.25`	`Jum-Jum`	`so my custom loading screen works fine in all maps`
`14:06.27`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Something like the windows forms designer in VStudio`
`14:06.29`	`Jum-Jum`	`except for the one i am going to use it in`
`14:07.09`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Maybe when i get round to the point where I need a UI :P`
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`14:09.06`	`zapa`	`hi`
`14:10.03`	`ReckeD`	`Heya`
`14:12.01`	`IhateBanelings`	`Hi, i got a europe map that im trying to make american, but the names are must up in the triggers, is there any way to fix it/`
`14:12.02`	`IhateBanelings`	`?`
`14:14.29`	`Jum-Jum`	`no error message, nothing`
`14:14.35`	`Jum-Jum`	`i just cant import and it doesnt tell me why`
`14:14.40`	`Jum-Jum`	`how the hell am i suppose to know whats wrong :S`
`14:15.08`	`zapa`	`where i can find information about dependencies?`
`14:15.13`	`Treepio`	`try and remove it and see if your map works : Jum-Jum`
`14:16.04`	`Jum-Jum`	`the map works fine, its importing thats stupid`
`14:16.12`	`Jum-Jum`	`whenever i save the imported file it just dissappears`
`14:16.23`	`Jum-Jum`	`it works fine in other maps but not this one... the one I need it in`
`14:16.23`	`Treepio`	`try a different format ?`
`14:17.11`	`Jum-Jum`	`tried`
`14:17.16`	`Jum-Jum`	`actually i tried different files`
`14:17.22`	`Jum-Jum`	`i cant import anything to the map`
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`14:23.45`	`zapa`	`if i try to use hero units with campaing stuff then i cant make some stuff like buttons etc? weird`
`14:24.10`	`Jum-Jum`	`i solved it!`
`14:24.20`	`Jum-Jum`	`import, save, close editor, open up editor`
`14:24.26`	`zapa`	`i mean i can make buttons but cant add those`
`14:24.30`	`Jum-Jum`	`it was saved in the map it was just "hidden"`
`14:26.34`	`Greedape`	`no, it is not usable until the map is saved as it is not imported before`
`14:26.47`	`Greedape`	`hidden would be just plainly.. wrong`
`14:27.34`	`Greedape`	`i just joined but i take it you imported stuff you then couldnt find in the data editor or the trigger editor`
`14:28.33`	`Greedape`	`zapa: im not too much informed about it atm. because i never use 4 dependencies to be sure but i think there is a problem with doing your own stuff when 4 dependencies are active.. not sure though, ask someone who knows exactly`
`14:29.31`	`Jum-Jum`	`well i couldnt find it anywhere`
`14:29.38`	`Jum-Jum`	`because i saved it and it even dissappeared in the import manager`
`14:29.47`	`Jum-Jum`	`it worked fine if i made a new map and imported it`
`14:30.00`	`Jum-Jum`	`i could see it and everything, use it in loading screen etc`
`14:30.10`	`zapa`	`Greedape: i have libery , libertymulti, campaing dependencie`
`14:30.14`	`zapa`	`3`
`14:30.16`	`Greedape`	`kk`
`14:31.19`	`Greedape`	`and about that hidden stuff: i kind of have no problem to use imported stuff after saving.. even though i have problems to save after importing haha`
`14:31.47`	`zapa`	`ill give up with hero units for now`
`14:31.50`	`Greedape`	`whatever the cause may be, we should be happy you ignored the fail of the editor and found a way`
`14:32.11`	`Jum-Jum`	`maybe, but it didnt show up in the browse in loading screen`
`14:32.16`	`Jum-Jum`	`yes! the user has prevailed!`
`14:32.20`	`Greedape`	`Y`
`14:32.26`	`Greedape`	`thats what counts`
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`14:32.53`	`Greedape`	`and zapa, when your able to do custom buttons, where is the final problem exactly?`
`14:33.03`	`Greedape`	`you acnt use it in the command card?`
`14:33.46`	`zapa`	`yep it doesnt find it`
`14:33.54`	`Greedape`	`ah okay`
`14:34.06`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Does the speed bonus from creep effect unit acceleration?`
`14:34.11`	`zapa`	`when i remove campaing then i can`
`14:34.15`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`*affect`
`14:34.16`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`...`
`14:34.42`	`Greedape`	`just look it up`
`14:34.43`	`Greedape`	`:P`
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`14:38.56`	`Greedape`	`zapa: i cant confirm your problem.. using a custom button on jim raynor works for me.. maybe make sure you dont duplicate or copy an old button but start from scratch, using a new unique ID`
`14:43.20`	`zapa`	`what dependencies are you using and in what order?`
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`14:44.21`	`Blackthorn`	`Having trouble changing model/actor on a custom unit;`
`14:44.38`	`Blackthorn`	`Somehow it has no model and is just a weird looking sphere right now`
`14:46.26`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`check Art - Model at actor`
`14:46.58`	`Blackthorn`	`My custom unit is under units, do I need to make a custom actor too?`
`14:47.09`	`Blackthorn`	`Was hoping to just hijack another one for now,`
`14:47.41`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`you can but its annoying`
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`14:48.28`	`Tofu`	`Unit actors relate 1:1 to Units as far as I can see`
`14:48.39`	`Tofu`	`but you can obviously reuse the models`
`14:48.41`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`nah you can add more units to an actor`
`14:48.48`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`but its annoying and diifficult`
`14:48.52`	`Blackthorn`	`oh`
`14:49.01`	`Blackthorn`	`well whats easy to do then?`
`14:49.11`	`Tofu`	`just dupe the actor you want`
`14:49.19`	`Blackthorn`	`k`
`14:49.21`	`Tofu`	`then link it to your unit`
`14:49.31`	`Blackthorn`	`the linking part is where i get lost I think,`
`14:49.37`	`Tofu`	`its right at teh top`
`14:49.58`	`Tofu`	`in its own little section above the data`
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`14:51.09`	`Blackthorn`	`um`
`14:52.32`	`Tofu`	`step 1, make sure the actor you are useing is a UNIT actor`
`14:52.41`	`zapa`	`Greedape: what dependencies are you using and in what order?`
`14:52.56`	`Tofu`	`step 2, in the search box above the data type in "unit name"`
`14:53.03`	`Tofu`	`step 2, ???`
`14:53.07`	`Tofu`	`or is that 3?`
`14:53.16`	`Tofu`	`either way, step 4, Profit`
`14:53.19`	`Blackthorn`	`:p`
`14:53.40`	`Blackthorn`	`above the search I see my tabs;`
`14:53.53`	`Blackthorn`	`I've got a unit actor`
`14:53.59`	`Tofu`	`its below the search`
`14:54.20`	`Tofu`	`ah`
`14:54.27`	`Tofu`	`wrong search`
`14:54.31`	`Blackthorn`	`oh`
`14:54.34`	`Tofu`	`the search box on the RIGHT of the screen`
`14:54.38`	`Blackthorn`	`Ah!`
`14:54.58`	`Blackthorn`	`!!!`
`14:55.00`	`Blackthorn`	`Thank you!`
`14:55.11`	`Tofu`	`welcome to step 4!`
`14:55.28`	`Blackthorn`	`:D`
`14:55.35`	`Blackthorn`	`profits`
`14:56.18`	`Tofu`	`be aware, when you rename an actor for the first time`
`14:56.28`	`Tofu`	`it often renames the art associated with it`
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`14:56.47`	`Blackthorn`	`ah`
`14:56.47`	`Tofu`	`this is obviously bad and will make your unit into a white sphere`
`14:57.21`	`Tofu`	`make sure you go fix the boxes on the right labeled Art-`
`14:57.30`	`Tofu`	`use that right hand search tool again!`
`14:58.04`	`Blackthorn`	`hrm, now that I know more about what I'm doing`
`14:58.13`	`Blackthorn`	`is there an easy way to reset all custom units?`
`14:58.18`	`Blackthorn`	`Think I want to start from scratch`
`14:58.56`	`Tofu`	`the only reset I know about is "remove object"`
`14:59.20`	`Tofu`	`obviously thats delete...`
`14:59.34`	`Blackthorn`	`oh, filterd by my map`
`14:59.47`	`Blackthorn`	`so now I only see what I've made / screwed up`
`14:59.53`	`Tofu`	`be careful.`
`15:00.07`	`Tofu`	`sometimes if you are trying to see how a unit is made`
`15:00.11`	`Tofu`	`it gets assigned to your map`
`15:00.25`	`Tofu`	`even though you havent changed it in any way`
`15:00.37`	`Tofu`	`I tend to get this if you are looknig at actor events`
`15:00.44`	`Tofu`	`etc`
`15:01.20`	`Blackthorn`	`k`
`15:02.41`	`ReckeD`	`What stat edits the range at which a unit will acquire a target? iv got untis running past each other in lanes =(`
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`15:03.17`	`Blackthorn`	`are they sometimes attacking each other?`
`15:03.23`	`Blackthorn`	`or never`
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`15:05.21`	`ReckeD`	`never`
`15:05.31`	`ReckeD`	`its range based`
`15:05.48`	`ReckeD`	`if they move within what appears to be about 6-8 yards they attack each other`
`15:05.55`	`ReckeD`	`anything outside that they just run past`
`15:06.12`	`Xenrathe`	`are you talking about football?`
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`15:06.57`	`Blackthorn`	`hrm I thought I saw the value your talking about before,`
`15:07.11`	`Xenrathe`	`acquisition range?`
`15:07.44`	`ReckeD`	`tactical AI range?`
`15:08.09`	`Blackthorn`	`Default is null for that; don't think thats it,`
`15:08.23`	`Blackthorn`	`probably something to do with computer players rather then unit ai`
`15:08.34`	`Blackthorn`	`maybe try it though`
`15:09.25`	`Tofu`	`if you dont want them to aquire targets change their Combat - Default Acquire Levelto Passive`
`15:10.09`	`Tinman`	`hey look at that... I am inspired to make a actual map, who would have guessed :p`
`15:10.10`	`Blackthorn`	`think he does want them to`
`15:10.28`	`Xenrathe`	`he wants to increase the acquisition range`
`15:10.31`	`Tinman`	`And who would have thought it come from music composing...`
`15:11.17`	`ReckeD`	`No tofu, want them to increase the range at which they acquire targets`
`15:11.25`	`ReckeD`	`so they dont run past each other`
`15:12.33`	`Blackthorn`	`Making a dota/castle fight type game?`
`15:12.54`	`Tofu`	`how are you moving them?`
`15:13.01`	`Tofu`	`a move order?`
`15:13.08`	`Tofu`	`or and attackmove?`
`15:13.12`	`Tofu`	`*an`
`15:13.52`	`Tofu`	`either way, as long as the unit is set to offensive and given an attackmove order it should engage units it can visually see`
`15:14.18`	`Tofu`	`works for me at least`
`15:14.49`	`ReckeD`	`Map has a revealer, so entire map is visible`
`15:14.53`	`ReckeD`	`order is attack to point`
`15:15.07`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`who can think of a minigame that involves on the fly terrain deformation?`
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`15:15.11`	`ReckeD`	`when units move within about 6-8 they attack each other, anything over that and they just walk on by`
`15:15.13`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`im trying but cant think of anything :s`
`15:15.57`	`Lilianna`	`Dodge the meteor`
`15:16.15`	`Lilianna`	`with exploding deforming ground!`
`15:16.20`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`oO`
`15:16.23`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`i like the first part`
`15:16.29`	`Tofu`	`first unit in the middle wins, units only move by sliding down slopes`
`15:16.33`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`but i dont see terrain deformation being useful there :P`
`15:16.59`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`uhm sliding down slopes...`
`15:17.02`	`Lilianna`	`Well they would just be an effect of the meteors really`
`15:17.08`	`Lilianna`	`you meant, you have to use terrain deform?`
`15:17.22`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`the terrain deform is a gameplay element`
`15:17.23`	`Tofu`	`you can do a basic physics emulation`
`15:17.29`	`Tofu`	`its clearly possible`
`15:17.36`	`Tofu`	`even tho I have never attempted to do it`
`15:17.43`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`ok you might be aware that im super sucky at data editor so... no :P`
`15:17.52`	`Tofu`	`Im pretty sure you dont do it in data editor`
`15:17.59`	`Tofu`	`theres no way to do it that I have seen`
`15:18.11`	`Xenrathe`	`apply force?`
`15:18.13`	`Tofu`	`I think its all impulse based on the angle of the slope the unit is on`
`15:18.23`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`you cant get the angle of the slope`
`15:18.41`	`Lilianna`	`people have done it`
`15:18.49`	`Lilianna`	`in the beta`
`15:19.09`	`Tofu`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk8DKhrdlAE`
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`15:19.56`	`Lilianna`	`there was a better video then that one that came after, by the same person`
`15:20.03`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`anyway`
`15:20.05`	`Tofu`	`I wasnt keeping track`
`15:20.07`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`too much hassle for a minigame`
`15:20.14`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`other ideas?`
`15:20.16`	`Lilianna`	`or maybe not the same person`
`15:20.20`	`slightlyrandom`	`minesweeper`
`15:20.36`	`Tofu`	`two preset units moving to a point geting shot by cannons, have to raise the ground to protect them`
`15:20.47`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`ooh`
`15:20.49`	`Tofu`	`or lower your opponents to ge thim killed`
`15:20.49`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`i like that`
`15:20.58`	`Tofu`	`I totally need to get paid for this`
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`15:21.01`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`totally`
`15:21.04`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`too bad!`
`15:21.05`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`:P`
`15:21.17`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`your reward is seeing your idea in action`
`15:21.34`	`Tofu`	`the only issue is`
`15:21.49`	`Tofu`	`that most projectile based units are not true physics emulations`
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`15:22.06`	`Tofu`	`and I am not sure how much work you would need to do to get them to impact deformed terrain`
`15:22.38`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`nah i was thinking in the lines of it taking longer to walk up a hill than flat terrain`
`15:22.40`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`thus avoiding the blast`
`15:22.48`	`Tofu`	`kk`
`15:22.55`	`Tofu`	`back to mappin then, hf`
`15:22.59`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`ty :P`
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`15:25.36`	`RazielZ`	`Hmmmm... what models could I use for towers...`
`15:25.54`	`RazielZ`	`And I'd prefer not using units, other than the ones that make some sense as a tower`
`15:26.27`	`RazielZ`	`I think I learned enough from making my first tower, now I gotta really start making stuff D:`
`15:26.29`	`slightlyrandom`	`Sixen: Your search tool is still broken`
`15:26.57`	`slightlyrandom`	`RazielZ: Go play the various TD maps and steal all their ideas`
`15:27.07`	`RazielZ`	`slightlyrandom: no, my idea is better`
`15:27.13`	`slightlyrandom`	`...for towers`
`15:27.21`	`RazielZ`	`I'll just look around for good models in doodads and stuff I guess`
`15:27.35`	`slightlyrandom`	`My suggestion was to steal the models they use`
`15:27.44`	`RazielZ`	`They mostly use units`
`15:27.49`	`Dogmai`	`can you manually set unit exp`
`15:27.50`	`RazielZ`	`And building that make no sense`
`15:27.53`	`RazielZ`	`Like a spawning pool`
`15:27.56`	`RazielZ`	`<.<`
`15:27.57`	`slightlyrandom`	`There is one`
`15:27.58`	`slightlyrandom`	`Ehm`
`15:28.05`	`slightlyrandom`	`The Variphage or something`
`15:28.13`	`RazielZ`	`Yeah`
`15:28.24`	`RazielZ`	`Hero structure, Imma try to use that`
`15:28.35`	`slightlyrandom`	`The Xel'Naga tower can be used, too`
`15:29.12`	`RazielZ`	`3x3 isn't too great of a footprint, I'll put it 2x2 and make the scale smaller`
`15:30.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`tentacles`
`15:30.04`	`ReckeD`	`Sweetzombie`
`15:30.08`	`ReckeD`	`why dont you remake lemings`
`15:30.12`	`ReckeD`	`in 3d?`
`15:30.30`	`RazielZ`	`How can I make a model follow another model in rotation, both the models being attached to another model? I tried this before and couldn't get it to work`
`15:30.41`	`ReckeD`	`have a unit that uses abilities to deform terrain to get your lemings from point A to point B`
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`15:36.29`	`RazielZ`	`There has to be a way get a model facing the same point as naother model....`
`15:36.42`	`RazielZ`	`Maybe triggers... but still they're only two attachments in one unit, not different units...`
`15:36.43`	`RazielZ`	`Gah`
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`15:45.24`	`ReckeD`	`hmmm`
`15:45.59`	`ReckeD`	`i modified the CollectMinerals(natural) ability and now it seems to be firing lie 10 times before the ability actually removes the unit =(`
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`15:47.13`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`RazielZ, are you trying to do it through the data editor?`
`15:47.25`	`RazielZ`	`Yea`
`15:47.56`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Are the models related to each other in some fasion?`
`15:47.58`	`RazielZ`	`I don't think triggers can influence certain attachments on units, but I might be wrong`
`15:48.03`	`RazielZ`	`Related? Well uh...`
`15:48.04`	`Blacksoldier`	`HelLo!`
`15:48.07`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Ah`
`15:48.11`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`It is attached to the unit?`
`15:48.36`	`RazielZ`	`One of them has a Z Turret axis and one doesn't, so I'm using the one with the turret to face the enemies, and I want the one without a z turret axis to face what the other model is facing bvecause I can't make it face enemies otherwise`
`15:48.38`	`RazielZ`	`Yeah.`
`15:48.40`	`RazielZ`	`They both are`
`15:48.49`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Aaah.`
`15:48.51`	`RazielZ`	`I guess I can attach one to another, tried that way too but it still didn't work`
`15:49.01`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I fiddled with turrets a while back through triggers`
`15:49.14`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`You can rotate the attach point through triggers`
`15:49.23`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`but for some reason, whenever I did so, it detatched the point`
`15:49.39`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`So if the unit started moving off, the point and everything attatched to it would just stand still`
`15:50.00`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`In short, I am no help.`
`15:50.01`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`:p`
`15:50.32`	`RazielZ`	`Except these are buildings so it might be useful`
`15:50.39`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`ah`
`15:50.45`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`well in that case....`
`15:50.46`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`sec`
`15:51.54`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`I have to head home`
`15:51.54`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`but`
`15:51.58`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`you want to look at actor messages`
`15:52.19`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`there should be an actor message that is used for rotate attachment points`
`15:53.10`	`RazielZ`	`Ok`
`15:54.34`	`Blacksoldier`	`can someone please help me with my morph spell?`
`15:55.26`	`Blacksoldier`	`i dont find the failure why i cant include it into my command card of the unit which shall be morphed`
`15:58.14`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Oh, and just to save you a ton of headaches if you choose to use the actor messages`
`15:58.34`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`you can use something like Send Actor Message to Unit`
`15:58.58`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Then for the message parameter the Msg Type is Attachment Set Rotation`
`15:59.22`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Attach Method you can just use direct and point to the point your object is attached`
`15:59.34`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`and finally, for the rotation, it constructs a matrix from a Vector`
`16:00.07`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`so, XYZ, you will use a value such as "1,0,0" to make it face to the left`
`16:00.17`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`or "0,0,1" to make it face up, etc`
`16:00.29`	`Ka[L]ekin`	`Anyway, off I go.`
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`16:00.47`	`ihatebanelings`	`is there a way to load a Europe map in the us editor?`
`16:01.35`	`RazielZ`	`I think there's a localizer/converter`
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`16:04.09`	`Blacksoldier`	`hmm... noone here whos able to help me?`
`16:04.26`	`Blacksoldier`	`i think i set something wrong in my editor because there is always some shitty problem`
`16:04.32`	`RazielZ`	`Never did morphing, I'll have to tho`
`16:04.41`	`RazielZ`	`But I didn't quite understand the problem`
`16:05.22`	`Blacksoldier`	`when u add a command button to the command card there are 4 fields`
`16:05.35`	`Blacksoldier`	`#1 command type`
`16:05.42`	`Blacksoldier`	`#2 requirement`
`16:05.45`	`Blacksoldier`	`#3 ability`
`16:05.49`	`Blacksoldier`	`#4 ability command`
`16:06.09`	`Blacksoldier`	`#4 is empty, i cant insert anything`
`16:07.29`	`RazielZ`	`hmmm`
`16:07.38`	`RazielZ`	`What did you choose for ability?`
`16:08.00`	`Blacksoldier`	`i choosed a self myde morph ability`
`16:08.09`	`Blacksoldier`	`had to onsert it by raw mode`
`16:08.10`	`RazielZ`	`Well abilities can have multiple ability commands`
`16:08.18`	`Blacksoldier`	`because it wasnt in the driopdown too`
`16:08.20`	`RazielZ`	`Yours doesn't havy any so you don't need to choose any`
`16:08.25`	`RazielZ`	`Oh`
`16:08.29`	`RazielZ`	`Then you might hav ea problem with it`
`16:08.33`	`RazielZ`	`Because it should show up`
`16:08.50`	`Blacksoldier`	`this problem occur to every new effect and behaviour to me`
`16:08.56`	`Blacksoldier`	`seems to be for abilitys too ^^`
`16:09.15`	`Blacksoldier`	`normally it works when i insert these information by raw mode`
`16:09.27`	`Blacksoldier`	`but i dont know how to do this with the ability command`
`16:12.11`	`RazielZ`	`hmm not sure`
`16:12.28`	`RazielZ`	`didn't work a lot with abilities, only made a build ability based on the normal one, and it showed up fine`
`16:14.01`	`ReckeD`	`anyone feel like creating a model for me? ill give you lots of hugs and love`
`16:14.09`	`ReckeD`	`Want the quad damage item from quake 3`
`16:14.14`	`ReckeD`	`and ... go!`
`16:14.39`	`Blacksoldier`	`done look here: www.doityourself.com ;-)`
`16:15.16`	`Blacksoldier`	`(hope this isnt pornographic... just wanted the name oO)`
`16:16.09`	`Sevenix`	`so the contest, is the deadline ON saturday or at 24:00 saturday?`
`16:17.51`	`zapa`	`how i display variable in text message?`
`16:17.59`	`rooj`	`[06:16] <Xackery> you see what i'm working on / heh`
`16:18.01`	`rooj`	`what is he workign on?`
`16:19.26`	`ReckeD`	`zapa, convert integer to text`
`16:19.45`	`zapa`	`ok thx`
`16:22.08`	`Blacksoldier`	`anyone else know my problem and how to solve it maybe?`
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`16:23.07`	`th15`	`ahahhah`
`16:23.15`	`th15`	`roahces wig out if you use patrol on them`
`16:23.18`	`th15`	`like totally wig out`
`16:23.27`	`Tolkfan`	`EU region has a planned maintenance for tomorrow, is it the same for US and SEA?`
`16:24.07`	`Tolkfan`	`planned maintenance in the middle of the week on all servers meant new patch, in WoW at least :P`
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`16:25.55`	`Tolkfan`	`hmm.. the maintenance is planned to last only 30mins... I guess no patch :P`
`16:27.58`	`Xaragoth`	`its probably just to apply a fix for the nexus wars spam :p`
`16:29.06`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`:<`
`16:29.14`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`ground height doesnt change when you use terrain deformation`
`16:29.20`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`that totally ruined my minigame`
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`16:30.17`	`Wartex`	`Does anyone know how to change how high a unit flies in the data editor?`
`16:30.38`	`Wartex`	`I checked under the "Fly"-mover, and saw "height field: Air"`
`16:31.00`	`Wartex`	`But I don't know how I can find the height fields or if they even are modifiable`
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`16:32.22`	`Xaragoth`	`why is there a terrain object that looks like optimus prime? O_O`
`16:32.28`	`RedWraith`	`is there?`
`16:32.31`	`RedWraith`	`wassit called?`
`16:33.17`	`Xaragoth`	`zz Test Robot`
`16:33.27`	`jorgenpt`	`Hm. Has anyone heard on the Blizzard policy on testing competition maps w/ e.g. friends? Sixen, etc?`
`16:33.58`	`Xaragoth`	`there are a lot of unfinished terrain objects that seem to be meant for some hybrid lab stuff Oo`
`16:34.31`	`Wartex`	`Xaragoth, all things called SS are for the Sidescroller, Lost Viking`
`16:34.42`	`Xaragoth`	`its zz`
`16:34.43`	`Xaragoth`	`not ss`
`16:34.46`	`Wartex`	`oh`
`16:34.55`	`Xaragoth`	`back to pre-school with you!`
`16:35.15`	`Wartex`	`thought you had read it wrong xD`
`16:35.17`	`Xaragoth`	`its some unfinished stuff, not the terra-tron`
`16:35.30`	`Xaragoth`	`and it really looks like optimus`
`16:35.34`	`Xaragoth`	`someone get a texture on it`
`16:35.34`	`Xaragoth`	`xD`
`16:36.01`	`Wartex`	`yeah it's amazing that they haven't cleaned stuff up in the data editor before releasing`
`16:36.20`	`Xaragoth`	`its amazing they didn't get to remove cliffs properly for terrain objects`
`16:36.30`	`Xaragoth`	`every time you fail-place, you can't ctrl+z it`
`16:38.05`	`jorgenpt`	`How does RoC http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/team-recruitment/6900-beta-testers-needed-roc-modification/ do custom UI like that?`
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`16:40.26`	`s3rius`	`With a lot of dialogs, buttons, labels and icons.`
`16:40.43`	`harl`	`hey`
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`16:41.36`	`Trunk`	`hi`
`16:41.56`	`Trunk`	`anyone knows how to make behaviours stackable?`
`16:42.14`	`goomba_`	`Livestream Free Channel Verification - Application Not Approved`
`16:42.18`	`goomba_`	`lolwut`
`16:44.59`	`Treepio`	`I have a dialog button to create a unit. but apparently it'øs free and it ignore the supply limit. anyone got a tutorial for this. cost and supply limit for dialog based buttons`
`16:46.07`	`Treepio`	`I think trunk means "after existing orders"`
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`16:46.55`	`Trunk`	`hm?`
`16:47.03`	`Trunk`	`i have behaviours`
`16:47.07`	`Trunk`	`for my items`
`16:47.17`	`Trunk`	`they add for example damage`
`16:47.25`	`Trunk`	`and how to make them stackable?`
`16:47.49`	`Trunk`	`add the same behaviour twice to an item`
`16:48.00`	`Trunk`	`eg. +5 damage(2 times)`
`16:48.07`	`Trunk`	`= 10 damage + for the hero`
`16:50.58`	`Trunk`	`anyone? :/`
`16:57.50`	`ReckeD`	`How do you get text actors to get values from a variable?`
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`17:02.33`	`LonZealot`	`anyone experienced with xp sharing?`
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`17:07.27`	`Oninji`	`Anyone knew that Follow Unit Group isn't centered? o.O`
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`17:13.35`	`Tofu`	`I have aoe xp sharing in my map`
`17:13.47`	`Tofu`	`its just a checkbox in the veterancy behaviour`
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`17:20.07`	`vjeux`	`hey`
`17:20.26`	`Tofu`	`hiya`
`17:20.36`	`Tofu`	`I need a hand with some fairly complicated actor work`
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`17:21.03`	`Tofu`	`I essentially need a second actor for a unit, and that actor needs to contain its own footprint (ie its a doodad like actor)`
`17:21.43`	`Tofu`	`The issue I have is linking the second actor to the unit`
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`17:26.02`	`Tofu`	`Trunk`
`17:26.34`	`Tofu`	`Behaviours have a maximum stack count`
`17:26.48`	`Tofu`	`thats what you are looking for`
`17:28.01`	`Oninji`	`Erf those camera a really troublesome =_+`
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`17:31.35`	`LonZealot`	`@Tofu: yeah, nvm already fixed the problem`
`17:31.43`	`Syniq`	`is bored, and ponders starting another map...`
`17:33.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (6d5573de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.85.115.222)`
`17:33.58`	`Xenrathe`	`Can you make damage pierce a shield?`
`17:34.14`	`Xenrathe`	`i.e. take directly from life vital and leave shields unaffected`
`17:34.40`	`Demonette`	`modifiy unit effect`
`17:35.08`	`Xenrathe`	`I can't use that`
`17:35.12`	`LonZealot`	`check the ghost's snipe ability it ignores armor`
`17:35.12`	`Xenrathe`	`I need it to be a damage effect`
`17:35.38`	`Xenrathe`	`Snipe uses 0 armor reduction`
`17:35.50`	`Xenrathe`	`but it doesn't penetrate shields`
`17:35.57`	`Demonette`	`mmmmhhh`
`17:36.08`	`LonZealot`	`oh yeah my bad i didnt read carefully`
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`17:36.36`	`Syniq`	`I'd guess there's a similar setting in there somewhere, but I don't know enought to help properly. :p`
`17:36.56`	`Syniq`	`I'm trying to work out how to lock scrolling of the camera...`
`17:37.17`	`Xenrathe`	`ponders I suppose I can use modify unit`
`17:37.25`	`Xenrathe`	`if a unit has like 50 hp and I modify it to -60 hp`
`17:37.27`	`Xenrathe`	`will that kill the unit?`
`17:37.58`	`Demonette`	`under flags?`
`17:38.36`	`Xenrathe`	`What?`
`17:38.46`	`LonZealot`	`great, i have like 40 levels in my veterancy behaviour and now editing it is really slow sigh`
`17:38.59`	`Xenrathe`	`I have 100 :P`
`17:39.07`	`Xenrathe`	`I remember adding those...`
`17:39.10`	`Demonette`	`oh wait... that just prevent shield drain...`
`17:39.12`	`Demonette`	`damn`
`17:39.20`	`Xenrathe`	`I was looking at the effect flags`
`17:39.25`	`Xenrathe`	`but that just seemed to deal with leech type`
`17:40.00`	`Demonette`	`yey... only leech.. =(`
`17:40.00`	`Demonette`	`mmmhh`
`17:40.10`	`Demonette`	`well why you need it to be damage?`
`17:41.25`	`Blacksoldier`	FRUSTRATING!!! Everytime i do new Buttons/abilities/effects/bahaviours they are NOT Listed in E`VERY dropdown and EVERY menu!!!! and i really dont know WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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`17:42.09`	`Blacksoldier`	`do i have to activate items or get a button allowing me to see self mae abilities?`
`17:42.20`	`Blacksoldier`	`in kinda general editor setup?`
`17:42.35`	`Blacksoldier`	`but then there must be something in the internet... i dont see someone else with this problem`
`17:43.09`	`Demonette`	Mmmmhhh whats you problem in detail? oO i think i haven`t get it
`17:43.54`	`Blacksoldier`	`ok i do it simple: i create a new button`
`17:44.01`	`Blacksoldier`	`with name tooltip hotkey`
`17:44.04`	`Blacksoldier`	`nothing to do wrong`
`17:44.10`	`Blacksoldier`	`impossible`
`17:44.10`	`Blacksoldier`	`^^`
`17:44.11`	`Xenrathe`	`Why do I need it to be a damage effect?`
`17:44.20`	`Xenrathe`	`I don't, I changed my mind`
`17:44.29`	`Xenrathe`	`But I also can't kill a unit`
`17:44.36`	`Blacksoldier`	`and then i want to add this button to a morph ability`
`17:44.49`	`Blacksoldier`	`but the button is not listed in the dropdown`
`17:44.50`	`Blacksoldier`	`so - why`
`17:44.50`	`Xenrathe`	`I can just use triggers to check`
`17:45.12`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mozared (525ffb7c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.95.251.124)`
`17:45.23`	`Mozared`	`"vows spermchan" was my captcha >.>`
`17:45.34`	`Mozared`	`'nyway, hi everyone`
`17:45.55`	`Demonette`	`Xenrathe: Why you can't kill it? well you can make a validator as well... or you make a set effect... that deactivates the shield deal the damage and then adds the shield again`
`17:46.47`	`Demonette`	`blacksoldier: mmmhh... that really wierd... normaly buttons show up... where are you looking for changing the button?`
`17:46.57`	`Demonette`	`Hi moz`
`17:47.36`	`Blacksoldier`	`ability-command-status --- double click --- choose execute --- first dropdown`
`17:49.01`	`Demonette`	`and there isn't your button?`
`17:49.28`	`Demonette`	`any prefix?`
`17:49.33`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Triceron (60313557@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.49.53.87)`
`17:49.35`	`Demonette`	`or stuff?`
`17:49.39`	`Demonette`	`well it should be there`
`17:49.49`	`Demonette`	`if it is created correctly`
`17:49.51`	`Blacksoldier`	`never there`
`17:49.51`	`Blacksoldier`	`no matter if i use prefix or nopt`
`17:49.59`	`Blacksoldier`	`its not`
`17:49.59`	`Blacksoldier`	`and thats the problem`
`17:50.14`	`Blacksoldier`	`i can do a workaround with raw data mode`
`17:50.17`	`Blacksoldier`	`but....`
`17:50.24`	`Blacksoldier`	`sometime it doesnt work`
`17:50.44`	`Blacksoldier`	`#for example a morph ability i cant editz the ability command in raw data`
`17:50.45`	`Blacksoldier`	`i cant get it in`
`17:51.24`	`Triceron`	`Ahoy!`
`17:51.30`	`Mozared`	`Hey Triceron`
`17:51.39`	`Demonette`	`you can edit everything with raw oO`
`17:51.40`	`Triceron`	`hey Moz`
`17:51.44`	`Mozared`	`Does anybody know; if I want to change the tooltip of an ability, where do I look? Behaviors?`
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`17:52.04`	`Blacksoldier`	`not his`
`17:52.08`	`Blacksoldier`	`i cant get it working`
`17:52.17`	`Blacksoldier`	`just dont work`
`17:52.32`	`Blacksoldier`	`and im frustrated since yetserday cuz i try and try and try`
`17:52.56`	`Syniq`	`Heh. It looks like the Galaxy Editor is more stable on OS X.`
`17:53.01`	`LordAbyss`	`tric, i wanna see your video`
`17:53.07`	`Syniq`	`So, no points for guessing what Blizzard use, then. :p`
`17:53.18`	`LordAbyss`	`umm morz, i think just under abliity`
`17:53.22`	`LordAbyss`	`or button`
`17:53.37`	`Demonette`	I really have no idea why it shouldn`t work
`17:53.43`	`Mozared`	`That's where I'm looking, don't think I can find it >.>`
`17:53.44`	`Demonette`	`maybe you can upload it somewhere`
`17:53.45`	`Demonette`	`and share it`
`17:53.50`	`LordAbyss`	`let me pull up the editor`
`17:53.59`	`Mozared`	`This is a typical data editor problem`
`17:54.04`	`Blacksoldier`	`this night i will download the english edtor`
`17:54.06`	`Mozared`	`I edited the spell itself with fairly little problems`
`17:54.10`	`Blacksoldier`	`and complete client`
`17:54.11`	`Mozared`	`Then can't find a simple tooltip =P`
`17:54.18`	`Demonette`	`Mozard:its under button`
`17:54.21`	`Blacksoldier`	`maybe it will work then`
`17:54.33`	`Blacksoldier`	`i really hope`
`17:54.33`	`Xenrathe`	`Oh thanks Demonette, I was mapmaking`
`17:54.35`	`Mozared`	`New question, where do I find button? I'm looking at the unit atm`
`17:54.42`	`Xenrathe`	`I can't kill the unit because units don't outright 'die' in my map`
`17:54.47`	`Syniq`	`decides to start a new 256x256 map so that SC2 will describe it as an "Epic Map" :p`
`17:54.50`	`Xenrathe`	`I can trigger for it though`
`17:54.54`	`Mozared`	`I bet it's under 'buttons'? =P`
`17:55.17`	`LordAbyss`	`its under button`
`17:55.25`	`Demonette`	`haha XD`
`17:55.33`	`Demonette`	`i already said =P`
`17:55.44`	`Mozared`	`Aye, I got it`
`17:55.48`	`Mozared`	`The skill is named Voodoo shield`
`17:55.52`	`Mozared`	`But the button is named Psi Shield`
`17:55.52`	`Mozared`	`>.>`
`17:57.17`	`Demonette`	`Think that Tosh got his Voodoo stuff while the later development`
`17:57.30`	`Mozared`	`Aye, I thought as much`
`17:57.35`	`Demonette`	`so the things are named different and fit to different things...`
`17:57.41`	`Clord`	`lol... my online friend got hard time to understand why I don't make serious submission to contest entry for blizzard`
`17:57.45`	`Mozared`	`It's unbelievably lovely to have all trigger/data editing finished`
`17:57.51`	`Mozared`	`And to only have to do some balance/unit placing`
`17:58.17`	`Xenrathe`	`Yes indeedy Mozared`
`17:58.21`	`Xenrathe`	`sadly I am so far from that point...`
`17:58.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`anyone here familiar with attachment points?`
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`17:58.37`	`Demonette`	`I'm farer ;)`
`17:58.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'm curious what the exact functions of ref_target and ref_damage are`
`17:58.52`	`Demonette`	`what you want to attach where?`
`17:59.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`I want to know if these points are used for range calculations or if they are just there for graphical purposes`
`17:59.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`so if I have a huge unit, if something next to it targets the ref_target point and not the center of the unit`
`17:59.55`	`ReckeD`	`Is there an option to increase damage by a multiplication?`
`18:00.08`	`Xenrathe`	`where ReckeD? But yes.`
`18:00.27`	`ReckeD`	`Behavior - Buff combat tab?`
`18:00.40`	`Demonette`	`Mmmhhh you are talking about acteur stuff or?`
`18:00.41`	`Xenrathe`	`fraction`
`18:00.48`	`Xenrathe`	`put it to like 3`
`18:00.51`	`Xenrathe`	`and it'll be 3x damage`
`18:01.03`	`Nash\|327`	`terribleterribledamage`
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`18:01.48`	`ReckeD`	`Damage dealt based on the maximum hit points of the unit being attacked`
`18:01.54`	`ReckeD`	`is that a tooltip error? i havent tested it..`
`18:02.23`	`Demonette`	`oO will be hard to base damage on the hitpoints of the target`
`18:02.31`	`Xenrathe`	`damage dealt - fraction?`
`18:02.44`	`ReckeD`	`thats the tooltip for the damage dealt - fraction field`
`18:02.50`	`ReckeD`	`but as i said, havent tested it`
`18:03.18`	`Xenrathe`	`:/ maybe that is right`
`18:03.20`	`Triceron`	`LordAbyss what video wha?`
`18:03.20`	`Nash\|327`	`just look at stimpack`
`18:03.41`	`ReckeD`	`nah you were right xenrathe, that field increases damage by a multiplier, weird tooltip tho..`
`18:04.07`	`Demonette`	`i'm sure it is based on the base damage...`
`18:04.30`	`Xenrathe`	`well there's so much crazy stuff in the editor`
`18:04.36`	`Demonette`	`i made an unit that uses multiplied damage... and it got +30% damage`
`18:04.43`	`Demonette`	`thats true ^^`
`18:04.44`	`Xenrathe`	`I have discovered many quirks that go completely against intuition`
`18:05.18`	`Demonette`	`Cheese for everyone =)`
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`18:07.10`	`Triceron`	`question about the editor`
`18:07.17`	`Triceron`	`do I _HAVE_ to log into bnet every time I use it?`
`18:07.25`	`Triceron`	`I thought login was a 1 time thing`
`18:07.57`	`Xenrathe`	`I only log in every so often`
`18:08.23`	`C-H`	`you have to, to look at blizzards maps other than that i dont think so`
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`18:09.20`	`Lilianna`	`Triceron, I have to log in once everytime I restart`
`18:09.50`	`Triceron`	`ugh, it's a painnnnn`
`18:09.55`	`Triceron`	`cuz my password is so loonnnggg`
`18:10.00`	`Lilianna`	`lol`
`18:10.07`	`Xaragoth`	`mine is too long for the editor`
`18:10.11`	`Lilianna`	`my password is 13 characters long. c.c`
`18:10.12`	`Xaragoth`	`i have to start up sc2 every time`
`18:10.36`	`Lilianna`	`the authenticator makes it annoying. c.c`
`18:10.40`	`casperb`	`ello mapsters :p`
`18:10.46`	`Xaragoth`	`its just stupid to have that login`
`18:10.56`	`Xaragoth`	`i bet they steal your maps while you work!`
`18:11.11`	`Trunk`	`for sure ;D`
`18:12.00`	`casperb`	`Appearantly you are listed as "editing a map" on bnet when in the editor -.-`
`18:12.12`	`RazielZ`	`What's the most common reason for something to only fire when it feels like it?`
`18:12.37`	`casperb`	`Speak to a doctor about that o.o`
`18:13.06`	`RazielZ`	`lulz.`
`18:13.35`	`ReckeD`	`what sound file types work best in sc2?`
`18:13.40`	`ReckeD`	`.wav .mp3?`
`18:13.45`	`Nash\|327`	`MID!`
`18:13.51`	`Xaragoth`	`ogg`
`18:13.52`	`ReckeD`	`.wma?`
`18:13.53`	`casperb`	`ogg`
`18:14.03`	`casperb`	`licensing issues`
`18:14.10`	`casperb`	`so ogg is the standard just about everywhere`
`18:14.41`	`Nash\|327`	`ogg sounds stupid though`
`18:14.51`	`casperb`	`based on?`
`18:14.57`	`Clord`	`egg ^^`
`18:15.01`	`Clord`	`lol ;)`
`18:15.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`you can use either mp3 or ogg`
`18:15.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`or wav`
`18:15.06`	`Nash\|327`	`OGG OGG OGG DURR`
`18:15.10`	`s3rius`	`.wav, .ogg`
`18:15.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`but wav is kind of pointless once you support other formats`
`18:15.20`	`s3rius`	`Don't know if .mp3 is supported..`
`18:15.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`should be`
`18:15.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`easy to make ogg if it isn't shrug`
`18:15.47`	`Lilianna`	`ogg is free, which makes it more awesome!`
`18:15.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`This is the internet. Everything is free.`
`18:15.59`	`Nash\|327`	`can't make an omelette without breaking a few oggs`
`18:16.01`	`IskatuMesk`	`except for pie.`
`18:16.01`	`s3rius`	`I can't recall having seeing any mp3 files in blizz files. And I remember that in WC3 you could only use wav and ogg too. mp3 was supported but buggy.`
`18:16.03`	`casperb`	`technically the format is vorbis`
`18:16.06`	`casperb`	`but blablabla`
`18:16.10`	`Lilianna`	`ogg vorbis`
`18:16.13`	`Lilianna`	`is the full name. :p`
`18:16.19`	`casperb`	`ogg is the container format`
`18:16.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`how was it buggy?`
`18:16.28`	`IskatuMesk`	`that might explain why my music didn't work properly in wc3...`
`18:16.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`wish I had known that 4 years ago :\`
`18:16.46`	`Lilianna`	`lol`
`18:17.07`	`casperb`	`ah well it's not like anyone plays our maps anyways :p`
`18:17.21`	`IskatuMesk`	`wasn't a public project but eh :p`
`18:17.23`	`Lilianna`	`I remember getting osme ogg video files a few years ago`
`18:17.26`	`Lilianna`	`ogm files!`
`18:17.27`	`Lilianna`	`c.c`
`18:17.32`	`Nash\|327`	`OMG FILES`
`18:17.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`aaaaaaaa`
`18:17.40`	`Nash\|327`	`or OMG FLIES?`
`18:17.47`	`Lilianna`	`:p`
`18:17.49`	`Lilianna`	`OGM`
`18:18.05`	`casperb`	`OGMZ!`
`18:18.43`	`Nash\|327`	`OGC`
`18:18.45`	`casperb`	`yaay traffic is picking up again! ^.^`
`18:19.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmm`
`18:19.41`	`Lilianna`	`oooh FLAC`
`18:19.45`	`Lilianna`	`my friends like FLAC alot`
`18:19.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`<3 flac`
`18:19.56`	`Triceron`	`I got some flac files a few days ago`
`18:20.03`	`Triceron`	`never heard of it before`
`18:20.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`about 20% of my files are flac`
`18:20.10`	`Triceron`	`but only VLC plays it`
`18:20.17`	`Lilianna`	`Its a really good lossless audio format`
`18:20.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`only annoying part is when people expect you to split them yourself`
`18:20.19`	`Triceron`	`I need to get a plugin for winamp`
`18:20.28`	`Nash\|327`	`FLAC is FLACCID`
`18:20.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`lul`
`18:21.29`	`Nash\|327`	`Lossless is rather excessive, I can't tell the difference between that and 160k MP3s`
`18:21.59`	`Mozared`	`Flac is decent I think`
`18:22.03`	`Mozared`	`It's just... nothing really plays it`
`18:22.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`most people won't be able to`
`18:22.09`	`Mozared`	`So I always convert it to MP3`
`18:22.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`I can though`
`18:22.16`	`Mozared`	`I play Flac with Foobar on my PC`
`18:22.20`	`Mozared`	`But I can't on my mp3player, so`
`18:22.22`	`ReckeD`	`once iv imported the .wav sound, how do i create a sound with the imported file?`
`18:22.28`	`Nash\|327`	`Especially considering I listen to music on computer speakers and my phone.`
`18:22.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`lul`
`18:22.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have Klipsch 2.1 speakers`
`18:22.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`they are quite nice`
`18:23.14`	`Lilianna`	`the google logo is fun to play with today`
`18:23.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`the source audio for a flac also has to be good`
`18:23.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`it is pointless to convert a lossy file into flac`
`18:23.30`	`Nash\|327`	`I don't care enough about speakers`
`18:23.44`	`Lilianna`	`I want to get some really good headphones`
`18:23.52`	`Nash\|327`	`I just use some generic crap`
`18:23.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have steelseries siberia headphones`
`18:23.59`	`Lilianna`	`but I dont have the money to spend right now. :(`
`18:24.03`	`Nash\|327`	`audio nerdage`
`18:24.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`they are nice but headphones bother my ears after a while`
`18:24.05`	`Lilianna`	`I want Seinheiser`
`18:24.36`	`ReckeD`	`nevermind, found it`
`18:24.41`	`Triceron`	`Graah!`
`18:24.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`eee!`
`18:24.47`	`Nash\|327`	`I don't really give a shit about much of anything`
`18:24.52`	`Triceron`	`couldn't get team color working >_<`
`18:24.54`	`Nash\|327`	`I use a CRT monitor`
`18:24.54`	`Lilianna`	`I thinkt hey were the HD 650`
`18:24.56`	`Lilianna`	`I dont remember`
`18:25.02`	`Nash\|327`	`which can't display the color red`
`18:25.03`	`Triceron`	`I've done this before, what am I doing wroonnnggg`
`18:25.17`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`18:25.36`	`Nash\|327`	`Well, OCCASIONALLY it will display red.`
`18:25.50`	`Nash\|327`	`For a few moments or so.`
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`18:26.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol`
`18:26.29`	`ReckeD`	`no wait, i dont have it zzz`
`18:26.31`	`IskatuMesk`	`I have a nice 21" crt I wish I could use as a second monitor with my 24" widescreen lcr`
`18:26.36`	`Nash\|327`	`I am extremely cheap.`
`18:26.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`because you can never have too much monitor real estate`
`18:26.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`but no desk space t.t`
`18:26.48`	`Nash\|327`	`The more you spend, the more you must sell your labor to capitalism.`
`18:26.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`the crt is enormous`
`18:26.58`	`ReckeD`	`How do you create a sound object using the imported .wav file? its imported just cant see it in the object list`
`18:27.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`sound tab in data editor`
`18:27.12`	`Lilianna`	`Its only $428. :x http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-Open-Air-Dynamic-Audiophile-Headphone/dp/B00018MSNI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1283884003&sr=1-1`
`18:27.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`you must define a value that uses your sound (after saving the map so it shows up)`
`18:27.18`	`Nash\|327`	`freedom > stuff`
`18:27.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`I am free`
`18:27.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`freeeee`
`18:27.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`well in a way`
`18:27.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`I am free in the sense I will never work`
`18:27.42`	`Dogmai`	`what is maximum fraction in reference to life/energy/shields in the data editor`
`18:27.46`	`Dogmai`	`is that an additional % ?`
`18:27.47`	`Lilianna`	`I have two 22" LCDs on my desk. :O`
`18:27.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`but not so free in the sense I couldn't work if I wanted to`
`18:28.05`	`Lilianna`	`I used to have a 21" CRT, but got rid of it`
`18:28.06`	`Lilianna`	`too big`
`18:28.09`	`Lilianna`	`and heavy. D:`
`18:28.14`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes they are heavy`
`18:28.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`but damn are they durable`
`18:28.26`	`Lilianna`	`Not if you drop it from 3 feet`
`18:28.26`	`ReckeD`	`cheers iska`
`18:28.31`	`Dogmai`	`i have 27" and 20" lcds on this comp =\`
`18:28.32`	`Lilianna`	`and the insides explode`
`18:28.35`	`Dogmai`	`one for sc, one for movies`
`18:28.42`	`IskatuMesk`	`doofus grandmother's exhusband ignored my advice and tried to carry it down stairs`
`18:28.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`when we moved`
`18:28.51`	`IskatuMesk`	`back end to chest`
`18:29.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`of course he lost his balance at the end of the stairs, flew out of the door, through a tree, and slammed into the pavement`
`18:29.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`monitor hits the ground at running speed, the casing cracked/chunk broke off`
`18:29.22`	`IskatuMesk`	`monitor itself, undamaged`
`18:29.29`	`Blacksoldier`	`can someone help me? i need someone giving me informatiokn i have to fill in in raw data because my data editor i really buggy... i have o set all in raw data and dont know where`
`18:29.30`	`Lilianna`	`heh`
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`18:29.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`I can't really carry things that heavy anymore though, my back is too bad`
`18:30.12`	`Triceron`	`I got a q about .dds - my alphas are being compressed weirdly, getting noise. How do I fix this`
`18:30.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`what dds format you using?`
`18:30.24`	`Triceron`	`dxt5`
`18:30.27`	`Lilianna`	`turn off mipmaps?`
`18:30.27`	`Lilianna`	`c.c`
`18:30.28`	`Triceron`	`for diffuse`
`18:30.29`	`Lilianna`	`I dunno!`
`18:30.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`interpolated alpha?`
`18:30.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`turn off mipmaps as well`
`18:30.34`	`Triceron`	`yes`
`18:30.41`	`Triceron`	`you don't need em?`
`18:30.43`	`Lilianna`	`No`
`18:30.45`	`Lilianna`	`SC2 does em`
`18:30.45`	`IskatuMesk`	`sc2 generates them`
`18:30.48`	`Triceron`	`ahh`
`18:30.50`	`Triceron`	`okay I'll try that`
`18:31.20`	`ReckeD`	`Iska, how do i assign a value to .wav file? cant find it anywhere`
`18:31.37`	`IskatuMesk`	`lemme edit editor one sec`
`18:31.42`	`Lilianna`	`You imported the .wav, saved your file`
`18:31.48`	`Lilianna`	`then you go into data editor, and sounds?`
`18:31.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`in the sound tab`
`18:32.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`there should be an area that points to the individual files`
`18:32.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`damnit why does the editor have to make me log in every single time I start it`
`18:32.39`	`ReckeD`	`thats what im trying to do, create a sound object using the .wav as the sound asset`
`18:32.41`	`Lilianna`	`cause they broke it!`
`18:32.45`	`ReckeD`	`its not in the list, le sigh`
`18:32.48`	`ReckeD`	`one sec, i fiddle`
`18:32.52`	`Lilianna`	`Did you save after you imported it?`
`18:32.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`sound assets`
`18:33.00`	`Lilianna`	`if you didnt, you should save, and reload the map`
`18:33.03`	`Triceron`	`hmm, I'm still getting a busted alpha`
`18:33.15`	`Triceron`	`instead of a smooth grayscale, its coming up with spots`
`18:33.23`	`Triceron`	`black-and-white only`
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`18:34.06`	`eRjkMn`	`hey`
`18:34.13`	`eRjkMn`	`can anyone help me test my map in a couple mins?`
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`18:37.05`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~IceChat7@ip-114-201.static.adsl.cheapnet.it)`
`18:37.48`	`Bibendus`	`hey guyz`
`18:37.52`	`Bibendus`	`what time is 12.01 AM?`
`18:37.54`	`Bibendus`	`:\|`
`18:38.02`	`Bibendus`	`midnight or mid afternoon`
`18:38.06`	`Triceron`	`0001`
`18:38.10`	`Triceron`	`midnight`
`18:38.16`	`Demonette`	`XD`
`18:38.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`try dxt3`
`18:38.23`	`Bibendus`	`isnt that`
`18:38.27`	`Bibendus`	`0.01 AM?`
`18:38.37`	`Triceron`	`which is the same as 12:01`
`18:38.41`	`Demonette`	`XD`
`18:38.42`	`Bibendus`	`the time can't go after 12:00 lol`
`18:38.52`	`Triceron`	`only 24 hr clock uses 0 o clock`
`18:39.05`	`Bibendus`	`oh`
`18:39.13`	`Bibendus`	`so`
`18:39.16`	`Bibendus`	`1:00 AM`
`18:39.17`	`Bibendus`	`what time is it`
`18:39.20`	`Bibendus`	`night`
`18:39.24`	`Triceron`	`1`
`18:39.28`	`Triceron`	`1 in the morning`
`18:39.29`	`Bibendus`	`2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 AM`
`18:39.33`	`Bibendus`	`12 PM`
`18:39.40`	`Bibendus`	`holy shit i hate that format`
`18:39.41`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`18:39.58`	`Bibendus`	`so what's the end time of the contest`
`18:40.03`	`Bibendus`	`11 sept 12:01 AM`
`18:40.16`	`Bibendus`	`morning of 11 sept or night of 11 sept?`
`18:40.27`	`C-H`	`morning`
`18:40.35`	`Bibendus`	`so`
`18:40.36`	`Nash\|327`	`ante meridiem/post meridiem`
`18:40.37`	`Bibendus`	`friday night`
`18:40.39`	`Bibendus`	`right?`
`18:40.43`	`C-H`	`1 minute into the 11lth`
`18:40.51`	`C-H`	`11th*`
`18:40.53`	`Bibendus`	`k friday night`
`18:40.54`	`Bibendus`	`:\|`
`18:40.55`	`Triceron`	`morning of`
`18:40.56`	`Nash\|327`	`Know if you know some simple Latin it's not hard to figure out`
`18:40.57`	`Bibendus`	`bad`
`18:41.04`	`Bibendus`	`the problem is not AM or PM`
`18:41.07`	`Bibendus`	`but the 12:01`
`18:41.19`	`Bibendus`	`i tought it started from 00:00AM`
`18:41.25`	`Triceron`	`12:01 = new day`
`18:41.32`	`Bibendus`	`yep now i got it`
`18:41.45`	`Bibendus`	`i have less time to work on the map sigh`
`18:41.48`	`Triceron`	`the 12 is really a 0`
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`18:41.57`	`Lilianna`	`12:00:01 new day!`
`18:42.11`	`Nash\|327`	`24 hour clock is superior`
`18:42.16`	`C-H`	`yeah and saying 12:00 AM is midnight just confuses more`
`18:42.20`	`Nash\|327`	`THERE ARE 24 FUCKING HOURS IN A DAY`
`18:42.40`	`Lilianna`	`Theres only 10 hours in a dayf or me`
`18:42.41`	`Triceron`	`you use the 24 hr clock?`
`18:42.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`liar`
`18:42.44`	`Lilianna`	`Whats it to you?`
`18:43.00`	`Nash\|327`	`(20:42:39) (Triceron) you use the 24 hr clock?`
`18:43.02`	`Nash\|327`	`yes`
`18:43.14`	`Bibendus`	`24hr clock is tha best`
`18:43.25`	`Triceron`	`sorta wish they used that here`
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`18:43.40`	`Bibendus`	`y`
`18:43.49`	`ReckeD`	`Man, cant find my sound file, i imported, saved, reloaded editor, trying to create sound object in the data, my .wav file isnt in the list, are you guys sure .wav is supported?`
`18:44.04`	`Nash\|327`	`Do you live in the US where they use archaic measurements and other idiotic things?`
`18:44.27`	`C-H`	`sesame street's number song only went to 12 so its harder for americans to count above that`
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`18:45.03`	`Triceron`	`I usually uses .ogg for SC2`
`18:45.14`	`Nash\|327`	`The military manages, and well, you know what they say about military intelligence.`
`18:45.18`	`eRjkMn`	`anyone help me test my map?>`
`18:45.39`	`ReckeD`	`Is there a list of imported files somewhere in the editor?`
`18:46.02`	`slightlyrandom`	`ReckeD: Yes`
`18:46.08`	`ReckeD`	`where?`
`18:46.09`	`slightlyrandom`	`The import file dialog thingie`
`18:46.17`	`ReckeD`	`does it show any and all imported files?`
`18:46.23`	`slightlyrandom`	`Should`
`18:46.32`	`slightlyrandom`	`Where are you looking for this wav file?`
`18:46.45`	`slightlyrandom`	`Because you can only really access it from the Sound tab in the Data editor`
`18:46.50`	`slightlyrandom`	`You need to create a new sound object`
`18:46.52`	`Lilianna`	`F9 key, shows everything youve imported`
`18:49.19`	`ReckeD`	`okay, imported file listed in importer, tried to create sound object but the file wasnt in the list of assets, restart editor?`
`18:49.26`	`Triceron`	`how do I modify unit colission? I increased the size of its model, I want the colission to match the resizing`
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`18:50.44`	`casperb`	`Triceron: change the bounding sphere radius`
`18:50.59`	`casperb`	`can't remember the exact location of the property`
`18:51.05`	`Lilianna`	`ReckeD, What is the status of the file if you highlight it in the Import Manager?`
`18:51.09`	`casperb`	`unit i think`
`18:51.21`	`ReckeD`	`got it, redid things a few times over and it just worked, no idea..`
`18:51.27`	`ReckeD`	`i blame the editor for being buggy`
`18:51.45`	`Lilianna`	`If the Status says Added, it wont show up in the list of assests`
`18:51.49`	`Lilianna`	`it needs to say Normal`
`18:52.12`	`Lilianna`	`Which usually means, right after you import the files, you need to save your map`
`18:52.22`	`ReckeD`	`ah okay, i gotcha`
`18:52.26`	`ReckeD`	`thanks for helping guys`
`18:52.27`	`Triceron`	`is it 'inner radius'?`
`18:52.49`	`Lilianna`	`Triceron, lemme look, I did it before`
`18:53.27`	`Triceron`	`cuz I'm replacing a zealot with my unit, and my dude is as big as an ultralisk`
`18:53.35`	`Triceron`	`and when I test he's clipping inside other units to attack it`
`18:54.00`	`Lilianna`	`Inner radius looks like it`
`18:54.23`	`Triceron`	`okay thanks`
`18:55.45`	`Lilianna`	`You prolly want to make Movement Radius match also`
`18:55.56`	`Lilianna`	`or else it could be smaller when it moves`
`18:56.22`	`Lilianna`	`Movement - Radius, and Movement - Inner Radius`
`18:56.23`	`Lilianna`	`rather`
`18:57.35`	`Triceron`	`hmm, okay`
`18:57.44`	`Triceron`	`yeah I just did inner and it didn't seem to change much`
`18:58.19`	`Lilianna`	`So actually, I dunno what Inner Radius does then`
`18:58.23`	`Lilianna`	`c.c`
`18:59.13`	`Lilianna`	`I just made the two match, because thats what Blizzard did`
`18:59.20`	`Triceron`	`hmm`
`18:59.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmm`
`18:59.36`	`Otixa`	`Motherfuckers :/`
`18:59.41`	`IskatuMesk`	`if I have an alpha mask do I change the blend mode at all`
`18:59.48`	`Otixa`	`moans`
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`19:00.01`	`Triceron`	`I haven't used alphas yet :O`
`19:00.02`	`Otixa`	`leans on Triceron`
`19:00.07`	`Triceron`	`dies`
`19:00.08`	`Otixa`	`coffee ;c`
`19:00.15`	`Otixa`	`i need coffee`
`19:00.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`this is going to be a long export so I want to get it right :\`
`19:01.00`	`Otixa`	`with really bad eggs?`
`19:01.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes.`
`19:01.46`	`IskatuMesk`	`why is photoshop treating this png as transparent`
`19:01.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`aaaaaarrgh`
`19:02.28`	`ReckeD`	`Unable to move existing archive (The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.)`
`19:02.30`	`ReckeD`	`what is that?`
`19:02.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`editor being a ditz`
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`19:03.10`	`ReckeD`	`erm, cant save =/`
`19:05.24`	`Otixa`	`Livestream Free Channel Verification Application Approved`
`19:05.24`	`Otixa`	`Congratulations, modcraft is verified!`
`19:05.26`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`19:06.03`	`Blacksoldier`	`GOT IT WORKING`
`19:06.06`	`Blacksoldier`	`GOT IT WORKING`
`19:06.08`	`Blacksoldier`	`YEAAAAH`
`19:06.10`	`Blacksoldier`	`ITS WORKING`
`19:06.13`	`Otixa`	`No`
`19:06.44`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Anyone here familiar with access 2007/2010 & forms?`
`19:07.57`	`Triceron`	`okay DXT3 worked for TC`
`19:08.15`	`Triceron`	`no more funky noise`
`19:08.55`	`Tinman`	`sigh`
`19:09.29`	`Tinman`	`I am working on this map... well, just started working, but I have no idea what to begin with :p`
`19:09.31`	`LordAbyss`	`~8ball will todays classes be benificial to me`
`19:09.31`	`purl`	`Please ask again.`
`19:09.53`	`LordAbyss`	`~8ball will today's classes be benificial to me`
`19:09.53`	`purl`	`Unsure.`
`19:10.22`	`Tinman`	`~8ball Will my girlfriend have sex with me tonight?`
`19:10.22`	`purl`	`Yes.`
`19:10.26`	`Tinman`	`YEY!`
`19:10.40`	`Otixa`	`~8ball Does Tinman have a girlfriend?`
`19:10.40`	`purl`	`Are you smoking crack?`
`19:10.43`	`Otixa`	`xD`
`19:10.44`	`Triceron`	`lol`
`19:10.55`	`Tinman`	`I guess I do have one then ;)`
`19:10.55`	`LordAbyss`	`lol`
`19:11.21`	`Triceron`	`alright so what changes a unit's collision size?`
`19:11.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`ok well`
`19:11.29`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'll just assume I don't need to change the blend mode`
`19:11.30`	`Triceron`	`Radius and Inner Radius don't seem to be doing it`
`19:11.32`	`IskatuMesk`	`LET'S DO THIS`
`19:11.39`	`LordAbyss`	`i have no idea`
`19:11.46`	`Triceron`	`zargh`
`19:11.51`	`Tinman`	`What does one start with when making a map?`
`19:11.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`wait didn't the exporter break anims`
`19:11.58`	`LordAbyss`	`and i have class soon, so not gonna pull up editor`
`19:12.01`	`Triceron`	`when I attack the ultralisk it looks like they're making out`
`19:12.10`	`Triceron`	`furiously`
`19:12.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`lul`
`19:12.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`well guess we'll find out`
`19:12.43`	`Triceron`	`which version of the exporter are you using`
`19:12.51`	`Triceron`	`I think someting like 1.8 is borked`
`19:12.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`uhh`
`19:12.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`the exporter script is like`
`19:13.02`	`IskatuMesk`	`0.20`
`19:13.07`	`Triceron`	`oh wait`
`19:13.12`	`Triceron`	`you should be fine`
`19:13.15`	`IskatuMesk`	`k`
`19:13.18`	`Triceron`	`I'm using .21 I think?`
`19:13.27`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`no one w hawt access skills? =p`
`19:13.40`	`Bibendus\|AFK`	`is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes`
`19:13.40`	`IskatuMesk`	`one of three things will happen`
`19:13.41`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`its prolly really simple, but google aint helpful`
`19:13.50`	`Triceron`	`nm i'm using .20 as well`
`19:13.52`	`Triceron`	`and I have anims`
`19:13.53`	`IskatuMesk`	`the export will fail, the export will succeed, the export will succeed but the anims will break and all hope will be lost`
`19:14.00`	`Tinman`	`Is there a way to path block on "noting" like when you remove the ground into space, as the path block is a doodad it can't be placed on "nothing" ...`
`19:14.24`	`IskatuMesk`	`huh`
`19:14.36`	`IskatuMesk`	`it said it found hidden cameras and to uncheck export hidden objects... and it's unchecked`
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`19:15.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`shrug, now it's exporting`
`19:15.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`the model is like 7.3k tri but it's fully animated`
`19:16.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`if it works I will be most pleased'`
`19:16.41`	`Triceron`	`holy crap`
`19:16.46`	`Triceron`	`7.3k`
`19:16.50`	`Triceron`	`well actually`
`19:16.53`	`Triceron`	`that's not that bad`
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`19:17.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`lol 7.3k is tiny`
`19:17.37`	`Otixa`	`7.3k triangles?`
`19:17.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`but the animations will make the export take a long time`
`19:17.44`	`Otixa`	`or quads?`
`19:17.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
`19:17.47`	`IskatuMesk`	`tri`
`19:17.50`	`ReckeD`	`i thought 2mil was sort of getting high`
`19:17.55`	`Otixa`	`That's fine then`
`19:17.58`	`IskatuMesk`	`2 mill is acceptable`
`19:18.05`	`Otixa`	`WHAT`
`19:18.08`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'll just pull out one of my rhino 3d models`
`19:18.11`	`Tinman`	`OVER 9000!`
`19:18.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`convert it to mesh from nurbs`
`19:18.18`	`Otixa`	`2mil is no where near "acceptable" you tards >:\|`
`19:18.18`	`IskatuMesk`	`export to m3`
`19:18.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`wait for hell to freeze over`
`19:18.44`	`Otixa`	`That's higher than the higher poly Crysis models`
`19:18.46`	`Otixa`	`Â¬_Â¬`
`19:18.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`:D`
`19:18.53`	`Otixa`	`i.e. the ones dusing cutscenes`
`19:19.00`	`IskatuMesk`	`exactly.`
`19:19.00`	`Otixa`	`which make the game lag`
`19:19.01`	`Triceron`	`AHA!`
`19:19.02`	`Otixa`	`like shit`
`19:19.09`	`Triceron`	`Footprints override radius changes`
`19:19.16`	`IskatuMesk`	`well then again crysis performs like shit anyways`
`19:19.17`	`Triceron`	`where the hell is a unit footprint located`
`19:19.21`	`Lilianna`	`turbosmooths a turbosmoothed model, to add more unecessary polies`
`19:19.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`AAAAAAAAAAAAA`
`19:19.38`	`Lilianna`	`On the Unit?`
`19:19.38`	`Otixa`	`turbosmooths Lilianna's crotch`
`19:19.41`	`Lilianna`	`under Pathing`
`19:20.05`	`Otixa`	`anyway, imma get some coffee and go play shit with Xar`
`19:20.13`	`IskatuMesk`	`gl hf`
`19:20.25`	`Otixa`	`Try not to import any raw Zbrush models into SC2 while I'm gone Â¬_Â¬`
`19:20.27`	`Triceron`	`sweet thanks`
`19:20.30`	`IskatuMesk`	`:D`
`19:20.41`	`Lilianna`	`Well Movement - Pathing`
`19:20.42`	`Lilianna`	`whatever`
`19:21.24`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`omg, not being able to use vars in some events is so annoying`
`19:22.01`	`Xaragoth`	`sets Lilianna on fire. NO TURBOSMOOTHING THE TURBOSMOOTHED!`
`19:22.18`	`Xaragoth`	`alright`
`19:22.27`	`Xaragoth`	`who's up for some 'The Thing' on EU? :D`
`19:23.12`	`Xaragoth`	`alright`
`19:23.12`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`what map is that?`
`19:23.22`	`Xaragoth`	`its on the forums too`
`19:23.25`	`Xaragoth`	`basically on is the thing`
`19:23.27`	`Xaragoth`	`rest is survivors`
`19:23.32`	`Xaragoth`	`you bunker down and try to kill each other`
`19:23.38`	`Xaragoth`	`if the thing kills a survivor, he becomes a thing`
`19:23.42`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`who made it?`
`19:23.47`	`Xaragoth`	`Falrinth`
`19:23.51`	`Xaragoth`	`its good, we played it before`
`19:23.53`	`Xaragoth`	`just a few issues`
`19:24.01`	`Xaragoth`	`but those are rather minor mostly`
`19:24.08`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`alright ill play a game`
`19:24.11`	`Xaragoth`	`nice`
`19:24.12`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`then back to work`
`19:24.16`	`Xaragoth`	`vjeux`
`19:24.19`	`Xaragoth`	`ya lazy french`
`19:24.27`	`Xaragoth`	`stop doing your work and play a little`
`19:24.28`	`Xaragoth`	`^^`
`19:24.40`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`tell me how to reset a region back to its initial state :(`
`19:24.56`	`Xaragoth`	`save the init state somewhere? D:`
`19:24.58`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`i add circles to a region and after the minigame i have to reset it ... but i cant :S`
`19:25.07`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`i tried to save the original value in a var`
`19:25.14`	`Triceron`	`argh can't find pathing footpring`
`19:25.15`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`but i cant use that var in the event Unit Enters Region`
`19:25.17`	`Triceron`	`footprint`
`19:25.21`	`Lilianna`	`Xaragoth, I think I set the model on fire by turbosmoothing to the second power`
`19:25.48`	`Xaragoth`	`thats pretty stupid SZJ O_o`
`19:25.57`	`Xaragoth`	`blizz is starting to drop in quality`
`19:26.00`	`Xaragoth`	`time to hail Bioware`
`19:26.11`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`=/`
`19:26.12`	`Xaragoth`	`Lil: You shall not Turbosmooth it!`
`19:26.25`	`Lilianna`	`Its okay, I dont have 3dsm`
`19:26.28`	`Tinman`	`I can't make maps for shit... I have a good idea, heck I even composed some music to fit with my idea, but I have no idea where to start out :p`
`19:26.30`	`Lilianna`	`so I cant turbosmooth anything`
`19:26.41`	`Xaragoth`	`ha!`
`19:26.43`	`Xaragoth`	`hey tinman`
`19:26.44`	`Xaragoth`	`lets play`
`19:26.50`	`Xaragoth`	`also, I want more people`
`19:26.53`	`Xaragoth`	`we can do this the easy way`
`19:26.59`	`Xaragoth`	`or I'll proceed to slap the whole channel.`
`19:27.10`	`Tinman`	`I am busy`
`19:27.16`	`Lilianna`	`Tinman, I break it into parts, see what I can make to play around with, see what can be reusable and stuff`
`19:27.25`	`Lilianna`	`then just make it in pieces. :o`
`19:27.42`	`ReckeD`	`Who thinks the quake3/UT3 sounds have been overdone?`
`19:27.42`	`Triceron`	`oh wtf, this unit doesn't have footprint to begin with`
`19:27.48`	`ReckeD`	`am i making a bad decision by importing them?`
`19:27.49`	`Triceron`	`why isn't the radius changing it then >_<`
`19:27.55`	`Tinman`	`I find it that almost everything I need is already there, and I don't need terrain at all`
`19:28.31`	`Lilianna`	`I guess then its just finding the motivation to put it all together`
`19:28.48`	`Tinman`	`or just figure out how the hell I make maps`
`19:28.56`	`Otixa`	`teases Lilianna`
`19:29.01`	`Xaragoth`	`(21:27:55) (Tinman) I find it that almost everything I need is already there, and I don't need terrain at all <- I'll make you scream in agony for that last part!`
`19:29.13`	`Lilianna`	`xD`
`19:29.19`	`Tinman`	`There is no terrain, just empty space`
`19:29.20`	`Otixa`	`licks Lilianna on the cheek`
`19:29.22`	`Lilianna`	`@_@`
`19:29.25`	`Lilianna`	`Creepy!`
`19:29.28`	`Otixa`	`goes to play with Xaragoth HIGHLIGHT`
`19:29.29`	`Triceron`	`woo I got it working!`
`19:29.36`	`Triceron`	`stupid editor`
`19:29.37`	`Xaragoth`	`sets Otixa on fire.`
`19:29.38`	`Lilianna`	`lol`
`19:29.40`	`Triceron`	`hiding default values`
`19:29.47`	`Lilianna`	`c.c`
`19:29.54`	`Lilianna`	`Didnt have Advanced Fields turned on?`
`19:30.10`	`Triceron`	`I did`
`19:30.20`	`Triceron`	`but it was default values where it was hiding in`
`19:31.04`	`Lilianna`	`ah`
`19:31.13`	`Triceron`	`so good, it looks proper now woo!`
`19:31.15`	`SycoPrime`	`Does anyone on know enough about actors to know how I could rotate something, to make it look like it's cocking its head to the side? (bout 45 degrees left or right)`
`19:31.22`	`Triceron`	`team color! correct size! wooooo!`
`19:31.34`	`Lilianna`	`\o/`
`19:31.38`	`SycoPrime`	`I've been searching the boards and playing with explicit rotation, but I'm doing something completely wrong.`
`19:31.39`	`Xaragoth`	`slaps vjeux around a bit with a large trout`
`19:31.42`	`Lilianna`	`The Zerg thingy can now eat stuff`
`19:31.53`	`Lilianna`	`SycoPrime, Trying to rotate what and when?`
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`19:32.21`	`vjeux`	`my mac is at the apple repair center :(`
`19:32.40`	`Xaragoth`	`I shall stab you! :O`
`19:32.44`	`Triceron`	`alright brb, gonna do some VIDEO CAPTURE!`
`19:32.49`	`vjeux`	`should get it back in 1-2 days, and i'll own you at ALL custom maps :p`
`19:33.02`	`Tinman`	`vjeux: I know why! I took a bite out of it!`
`19:33.16`	`Xaragoth`	`vjeux: Hah!`
`19:33.21`	`SycoPrime`	`I have one actor attached to another. I want to rotate it by 45 degrees on it's forward-facing axis. From creation, so site operations or actor events are ideal.`
`19:33.39`	`vjeux`	`as I did for last custom live i went :p`
`19:33.39`	`Tinman`	`I ate your apple!`
`19:34.09`	`Lilianna`	`Hmmmm`
`19:34.36`	`SycoPrime`	`I've played with the uberlisk, prozaicmuse's tutorials, and what I can find. Trying to adapt it to a different model, and failing.`
`19:34.39`	`Lilianna`	`SycoPrime, It might be easier to make the attached actor have a Turret, based on its Origin point`
`19:34.54`	`Lilianna`	`then the rotation stuff is pretty easy`
`19:35.08`	`Lilianna`	`you can have its Idle be twitching between 45 degrees foreward`
`19:35.20`	`Lilianna`	`and also limit it to those 90 degrees`
`19:35.27`	`Lilianna`	`so you wont have the head spinning problem`
`19:35.57`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`vjeux: you know access`
`19:36.08`	`Lilianna`	`I dont know how you could on the fly use SOps to change rotations`
`19:36.10`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`also, why you have a mac?`
`19:36.14`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`;)`
`19:36.24`	`Lilianna`	`I have a mac, for xcode. :O`
`19:36.27`	`Lilianna`	`and thats about it. c.c`
`19:36.45`	`SycoPrime`	`Hmm...alright, thanks, Lilianna. I'll keep playing with it. Maybe turrets will solve the issue.`
`19:36.49`	`Lilianna`	`because reading up, trying to program for the iPhone on a PC was too anoying`
`19:36.59`	`Lilianna`	`SycoPrime, look at the siege tank for reference`
`19:37.01`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`ah`
`19:37.08`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`well, at least you have a reason`
`19:37.10`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`:p`
`19:37.12`	`Lilianna`	`:D`
`19:37.27`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`its usually much easier to start flamewar in here, ppl are starting to slack!`
`19:37.28`	`Lilianna`	`I also use it for my Video Capture USB thingy`
`19:37.36`	`Lilianna`	`because I bought the one that didnt work on Vista....`
`19:37.38`	`Lilianna`	`or 7`
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`19:37.56`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`neat-o`
`19:38.06`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`I keep old computers so I can use the old systems`
`19:38.10`	`Tinman`	`steals all the map making skills in the IRC!`
`19:38.19`	`Tinman`	`yes! now I can make a map`
`19:38.24`	`Lilianna`	`most of my old computers burned up`
`19:38.36`	`Lilianna`	`c.c`
`19:39.30`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`not sure if ive asked in here.... does anyone here sit on a Roland LAPC-1/MT-32 soundcard they have for sale?`
`19:39.52`	`Xaragoth`	`looks at Tinman.`
`19:39.54`	`Xaragoth`	`No, you can't`
`19:39.57`	`Xaragoth`	`you might have the skills`
`19:40.03`	`Xaragoth`	`but you still don't have the brain`
`19:40.04`	`Xaragoth`	`:P`
`19:40.11`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`ninjas cant steal my skills if im on the other side of the internet!`
`19:40.15`	`Tinman`	`Wrong, i don't have a heart`
`19:40.31`	`Tinman`	`And a heart is not needed for map making`
`19:40.47`	`Lilianna`	`The Tinman, if he only had a heart!`
`19:40.58`	`Lilianna`	`It was the Strawman who didnt have a brain Xaragoth`
`19:41.10`	`Tinman`	`Scarecrow`
`19:41.19`	`Lilianna`	`They are both made of straw`
`19:41.20`	`Lilianna`	`:p`
`19:41.26`	`Tinman`	`Nice guy he is, a bit stupid`
`19:41.49`	`vjeux`	`(don't worry i have a mac but i'm on windows !)`
`19:41.52`	`IskatuMesk`	`weeel the alphas definitely don't work`
`19:42.27`	`Lilianna`	`David Guetta!`
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`19:43.24`	`Tinman`	`Its like, my map idea is so easy, I could have made it in notepad, but I can't figure out how to path block on no terrain :p`
`19:46.24`	`Lilianna`	`My map idea has me building quite a few different systems that I can port into multiple maps, some of which cant be done how I want yet`
`19:47.27`	`Tinman`	`My map would have a re-usable base, so to make a new "level" would just to change what you "fight" against really`
`19:47.45`	`Tinman`	`Just copy paste ^^`
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`19:48.14`	`Triceron`	`blargh`
`19:48.28`	`Tinman`	`at least that is my idea, I just have the problem of making that idea a reality...`
`19:48.28`	`Triceron`	`i got better quality video but crappier frames per second >_<`
`19:48.34`	`Blacksoldier`	`someone know how to translate wc3 range to sc2?`
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`19:48.43`	`Lilianna`	`well yes, mine too Tinman, but I want to make a version thats more then just singular fights eventually`
`19:48.51`	`Tinman`	`I am sure most of the people in here could make this type of map within a few hours`
`19:48.57`	`Lilianna`	`it will start out with the singular fights as I work up the item databases / crafting systems`
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`19:49.12`	`Manquiche`	`hellooo`
`19:49.22`	`SuraklinSC2`	`yawns.`
`19:49.25`	`Otixa`	`Xaragoth sucks! >:\|`
`19:49.29`	`Otixa`	`He lags!`
`19:49.32`	`Otixa`	`Lags he!`
`19:49.34`	`Otixa`	`ROAR`
`19:49.39`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Lagsalot?`
`19:49.55`	`Tinman`	`He needs to tune his settings down to like -2 Low`
`19:50.00`	`Rodrigo__`	`sup`
`19:50.07`	`Rodrigo__`	`I'm at school`
`19:50.41`	`Tinman`	`That would be Low -> Lower -> Lowest -> Lowester <- The setting Xaragoth needs to use`
`19:51.14`	`Rodrigo__`	`vjeux`
`19:51.15`	`Triceron`	`what about lowestest?`
`19:51.18`	`Rodrigo__`	`are u there?`
`19:51.52`	`Tinman`	`There is no such thing as Lowestest, thats just silly`
`19:51.53`	`Triceron`	`he was before I left the chan`
`19:52.15`	`Tinman`	`There is a thing as Lowester`
`19:52.31`	`Tinman`	`and Lowerest`
`19:52.36`	`Manquiche`	`salami sandwich`
`19:52.37`	`Triceron`	`pew pew`
`19:52.40`	`Manquiche`	`awesome`
`19:52.48`	`Lilianna`	`Lower then Lowester`
`19:53.33`	`Tinman`	`Yes, Lower then Lowester is Lowerest`
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`19:53.57`	`Leaderboard`	`Damn.`
`19:54.01`	`Triceron`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D88LOd_pWt8 woot!`
`19:54.06`	`Triceron`	`higher quality!`
`19:54.08`	`Leaderboard`	`Xaragoth treat me like a Board.`
`19:54.30`	`Leaderboard`	`omg Triceron :o`
`19:54.33`	`SycoPrime`	`If I spawn a Larva out in the middle of nowhere, but give it a nice creep soup to stand on, what would cause it to die?`
`19:54.50`	`Lilianna`	`Triceron, now just add burning and acid deaths!`
`19:55.06`	`Triceron`	`oh I wish!`
`19:55.17`	`Lilianna`	`and the Rainbow Pony death!`
`19:55.17`	`Leaderboard`	`You are very good modeliser`
`19:55.18`	`SuraklinSC2`	`heh`
`19:55.19`	`Lilianna`	`c.c`
`19:55.21`	`Leaderboard`	`demn`
`19:55.24`	`Blacksoldier`	`someone knwo if i can convert the wc3 range "500" to "5" in starcraft?`
`19:55.25`	`Tinman`	`Triceron he needs to be baddier, more health!`
`19:55.25`	`C-H`	`thought those needed hatchery to live, but i could be very wrong`
`19:55.25`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Double backhand bitchslap attack anim?`
`19:55.28`	`Triceron`	`thanks`
`19:55.29`	`Manquiche`	`triceron, nice unit! but its attack kind of looks like its slapping the ultra in a rather effeminate manner :D`
`19:55.31`	`SuraklinSC2`	`;)`
`19:55.31`	`Blacksoldier`	`think 5 will be too low, isnt it?`
`19:55.42`	`Triceron`	`bitchslap of doom`
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`19:56.00`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`19:56.16`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Hmm.`
`19:56.21`	`SycoPrime`	`C-H, what's what I'm thinking, but I'm trying to figure out how to make them not need that :/`
`19:56.28`	`SuraklinSC2`	`There needs to be a search on joining a custom game. :/`
`19:57.42`	`Xaragoth`	`Leaderboard`
`19:57.48`	`Xaragoth`	`ACCEPT INVITE! D:`
`19:57.49`	`Leaderboard`	`yeah`
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`19:58.00`	`Leaderboard`	`damn, I don't have the time, I'll get out in about 3 minutes`
`19:58.23`	`Xaragoth`	`cancel it at least`
`19:58.27`	`Xaragoth`	`can't kick you`
`19:58.27`	`Xaragoth`	`:D`
`20:02.04`	`currydevil`	`Syco, the only thing to find about them living is a suicide when not on creep, maybe remove that behavior and it will keep them from dying not near a hatchery too?`
`20:02.38`	`SycoPrime`	`Yeah, that's what I was trying. About to see how it works out.`
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`20:03.19`	`Icebane`	`Does anyone have any idea how do do a temporary cloak ability, like Wind Walk in Wc3? I tried using the Banshees Cloak behavior giving it a duration but it didn't work. Proabably did something wrong..`
`20:03.43`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Eh?`
`20:03.47`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Buff?`
`20:03.58`	`C-H`	`"Zerg- Larva Wander" under behaviors, wonder if thats it`
`20:04.06`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Like, apply a behavior with "cloaked" flagged, with a set duration?`
`20:05.06`	`SycoPrime`	`C-H, don't think so. "Wander" is the ability type, think it just moves them around. I'm starting to think they're not dying, but rather not being placed right in the first place ><`
`20:05.21`	`SycoPrime`	`Icebane: Behavior with limited duration should do the trick.`
`20:05.40`	`Icebane`	`SycoPrime: yeah I tried that but I didn't get it wo work, I'll try again ;P`
`20:05.43`	`C-H`	`right figured that after i read some more...`
`20:06.35`	`Motive`	`I love me :D`
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`20:07.06`	`Motive`	`My Mac Mini's soudn isn't working, so I've setup a sound daemon on my MacBook Pro and it's playing everything for both computers.`
`20:07.08`	`Motive`	`xD`
`20:07.15`	`SuraklinSC2`	`...`
`20:07.26`	`SycoPrime`	`Icebane: I was having some trouble doing that with a behavior as well. Looks like I have to go do comparisons. Gotta try to remember some limited duration behaviors.`
`20:08.27`	`Icebane`	`SycoPrime: Yeah really tricky. I tell you if I get it working.`
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`20:10.44`	`Icebane`	`WUHUU! :D I got it working. I suggest using the "Mothership Cloak effect" since it already has a small duration`
`20:12.47`	`Blacksoldier`	`think 5 will be too low, isnt it?`
`20:12.50`	`Blacksoldier`	`someone knwo if i can convert the wc3 range "500" to "5" in starcraft?`
`20:12.55`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Vulfe (45864a45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.134.74.69)`
`20:12.58`	`Vulfe`	`Hi`
`20:12.59`	`Vulfe`	`folks`
`20:13.09`	`Blacksoldier`	`hi`
`20:13.23`	`Icebane`	`Heya`
`20:13.24`	`Blacksoldier`	`vulfe do u know how to convert wc3 range to starcraft? ;-)`
`20:13.30`	`SycoPrime`	`Hello, Vulfe.`
`20:13.47`	`Vulfe`	`wc3 damage range?`
`20:13.55`	`Blacksoldier`	`attack range`
`20:13.57`	`Blacksoldier`	`;-)`
`20:14.00`	`Blacksoldier`	`just the number`
`20:14.07`	`Vulfe`	`feels like about x100`
`20:14.08`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`20:14.14`	`Leaderboard`	`SweetZombieJesus, I want to kick your ass.`
`20:14.20`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`o_O`
`20:14.29`	`Blacksoldier`	`thats what i thought too but my friend said then starcraft range seems to be too low`
`20:14.29`	`Vulfe`	`600 is standard ranged attack in wc3, and 6 is standard range in sc2`
`20:14.30`	`Leaderboard`	`Damn Hero Selection thing =D`
`20:14.33`	`Vulfe`	`so I figure it's about right`
`20:14.37`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`that a good or bad thing?`
`20:14.46`	`Leaderboard`	`good thing, but was hard to get it working with my TPS map.`
`20:14.50`	`Blacksoldier`	`so now we are 2 with same idea ^^`
`20:14.52`	`Vulfe`	`Maybe 150`
`20:14.53`	`Leaderboard`	`It's a damn great work`
`20:15.06`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`was designed to be easy to use though :P`
`20:15.13`	`Vulfe`	`I mean`
`20:15.24`	`Blacksoldier`	`so u dont know it exactly? think i start wc3 then and test it`
`20:15.27`	`Vulfe`	`You can basically just scale the collision size to the size of the cliffs`
`20:15.31`	`Blacksoldier`	`before i search too much and get frustrated`
`20:15.38`	`Vulfe`	`If you know cliff height in wc3`
`20:15.43`	`Vulfe`	`that would be a good indicator maybe`
`20:15.44`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`20:15.48`	`Leaderboard`	`But is there a way to prevent players choosing a hero if it has already be selected ?`
`20:15.55`	`Leaderboard`	`SZJ ?`
`20:15.59`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`exclusive hero`
`20:16.00`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`at options`
`20:16.05`	`Leaderboard`	`Oh, ok`
`20:16.06`	`Leaderboard`	`sorry`
`20:16.08`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`20:16.17`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`read manual! :P`
`20:16.19`	`Blacksoldier`	`give the hero charges?`
`20:16.29`	`Leaderboard`	`yeah, yeah :D`
`20:16.30`	`Blacksoldier`	`;-)`
`20:16.39`	`Triceron`	`there's a manual?`
`20:16.44`	`Vulfe`	`I'll have a 2D physics thing done by later today or tomorrow`
`20:16.45`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`yus`
`20:16.46`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`at downloads`
`20:16.50`	`Vulfe`	`if you want me to write a tutorial`
`20:16.51`	`Vulfe`	`let me know`
`20:16.57`	`Triceron`	`WUT?`
`20:17.01`	`Triceron`	`seriously??`
`20:17.09`	`Vulfe`	`?`
`20:17.23`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`cant figure this shit out`
`20:17.27`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Blah.`
`20:17.28`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`im adding a circle to a region var`
`20:17.28`	`Manquiche`	`link manual plox`
`20:17.33`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`then later i set the var to No Region`
`20:17.40`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`but it doesnt actually remove the cirlce...`
`20:17.59`	`SuraklinSC2`	`The region was still created.`
`20:18.08`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Gotta destroy it first then set it to no region.`
`20:18.18`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`alright`
`20:18.41`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`Manquiche: you lazy bum http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/files/446/54/Hero_Selection_Library_v3.0_Final_Manual.pdf`
`20:18.48`	`Manquiche`	`thanks babes`
`20:19.34`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`so how do you destroy a region?`
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`20:19.37`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`theres no action for it`
`20:20.20`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`think ill just revert back to distance between points`
`20:20.49`	`Mozared`	`If you pause a unit, can you still force him to play a specific animation with an actor?`
`20:21.01`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`pause is just no orders`
`20:21.12`	`Mozared`	`Hmm, maybe I should do this differently`
`20:21.20`	`Mozared`	`I'm trying to prevent a unit from moving or basically doing everything, ever`
`20:21.22`	`Mozared`	`including animations`
`20:21.25`	`Rodrigo__`	`I just sent a PM to vjeux saying that he can publish platform defense on EU if he wants.`
`20:21.34`	`Mozared`	`aka the "unmanned robot" idea`
`20:21.47`	`Leaderboard`	`Do you know 4-pool rush ?`
`20:21.49`	`Mozared`	`Should I do this by forcing him to play no animations or something?`
`20:22.43`	`currydevil`	`Need some help. I have 3 diff leaderboards, and I start with only 1 of them visible. I set a couple dialog buttons to "cycle" through them when clicked. by enabling/disabling showing status for each leaderboard.. but it's not working :(`
`20:23.29`	`currydevil`	`http://pastebin.com/ZR3p5gq1`
`20:23.46`	`Triceron`	`you could model swap perhapes`
`20:23.55`	`currydevil`	`hrm?`
`20:24.06`	`Triceron`	`create a copy of your unit with no anims whatsoever`
`20:24.21`	`currydevil`	`oh you're talking to moza :(`
`20:24.24`	`Triceron`	`and swap that in with a trigger, say a unit getting out of the robot suit`
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`20:25.10`	`Mozared`	`Wouldn't it be easier to use a normal unit and tell him to not do anything, though?`
`20:25.54`	`Triceron`	`guess you could do that too`
`20:26.09`	`Mozared`	`I'm currently using Animation - play no animation`
`20:26.15`	`Triceron`	`that works`
`20:26.17`	`Mozared`	`But I've got a feeling that'll make the unit disappear entirely`
`20:26.24`	`Mozared`	`Hmm, I guess I'll just give it a go =P`
`20:26.27`	`Triceron`	`well I guess you gotta trigger it tho`
`20:26.36`	`Mozared`	`Aye, I did`
`20:26.39`	`Triceron`	`okay`
`20:26.46`	`Triceron`	`see if it works :D`
`20:26.53`	`Triceron`	`and let me know, I wanna know`
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`20:27.16`	`Mozared`	`Do you happen to know the 'view the entire map' cheat?`
`20:27.25`	`Mozared`	`I can use that to check if it works`
`20:27.41`	`Mozared`	`Else I need to completely my whole map before I see it =P`
`20:28.13`	`currydevil`	`temporarliy put in a visibility revealer for yourself?`
`20:28.16`	`currydevil`	`for testing?`
`20:28.28`	`Mozared`	`Yeah, but it's always so much work >.> Oh well`
`20:28.35`	`currydevil`	`it's a trigger =X`
`20:28.36`	`currydevil`	`lol`
`20:28.36`	`Syniq`	`Anyone around and on the EU servers and fancy playing a 3v3 map I've been working on?`
`20:28.40`	`currydevil`	`or one action rather.`
`20:28.47`	`Mozared`	`what kind of map Syniq?`
`20:29.00`	`currydevil`	`but anyways...`
`20:29.07`	`currydevil`	`Need some help. I have 3 diff leaderboards, and I start with only 1 of them visible. I set a couple dialog buttons to "cycle" through them when clicked. by enabling/disabling showing status for each leaderboard.. but it's not working :(`
`20:29.09`	`ReckeD`	`wow`
`20:29.21`	`ReckeD`	`editor simply will not let me save anymore =(`
`20:29.44`	`Syniq`	`Mozared: Bel'Shir tileset melee, it has a fairly unique choke point in the middle (I've not seen it on any of the league maps, lets put it that way... ;) )`
`20:29.55`	`Mozared`	`It's a normal melee map?`
`20:30.06`	`Manquiche`	`mozared`
`20:30.06`	`Syniq`	`Yeah`
`20:30.14`	`Manquiche`	`i believe the cheat is 'black sheep wall'`
`20:30.19`	`Manquiche`	`to reveal map`
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`20:30.25`	`Mozared`	`That's what it was in SC1, wasn't it?`
`20:30.29`	`Manquiche`	`yeah`
`20:30.29`	`Mozared`	`I'll try though`
`20:30.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Vophsix (516f0b11@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.11.17)`
`20:30.40`	`Mozared`	`And Syniq, I could give it a go in a bit, just need to finish up what I'm doing here`
`20:30.41`	`Syniq`	`blacksheepwall in SC1, OORC`
`20:30.44`	`Syniq`	`*IIRC`
`20:30.46`	`Syniq`	`Cool`
`20:30.49`	*** join/#sc2mapster MindWorX` (MindWorX@188.176.197.82)
`20:30.59`	`Syniq`	`is, unsurprisingly, Syniq / 101 :p`
`20:31.06`	`Mozared`	`I'm Mozared 266`
`20:31.08`	`Syniq`	`Add me, anyone, if you're interested. :)`
`20:31.34`	`Manquiche`	`mozared, "Fog of War disabledsawnoutofmemory"`
`20:31.43`	`Manquiche`	`from gamefaqs.com`
`20:31.44`	`Mozared`	`Thanks`
`20:31.48`	`Manquiche`	`np`
`20:31.50`	`Mozared`	`Time to do some more testing, back in a bit`
`20:32.31`	`Manquiche`	`anyone good with UI stuff?`
`20:32.55`	`Syniq`	`is really stuck on the map name...`
`20:35.34`	`Mozared`	`Well`
`20:35.40`	`Mozared`	`I totally forgot what I was going to test for in the first place`
`20:35.46`	`Mozared`	`But this doesn't seem to work`
`20:35.53`	`Mozared`	`The fellow keeps moving, even if it's just his standing animation`
`20:36.05`	`ReckeD`	`Anyone on SEA interested in testing my map with me?`
`20:37.12`	`allenmelon`	`iirc - Isnt It Really Cool?`
`20:37.55`	`Manquiche`	`hmmm`
`20:38.08`	`Manquiche`	`no hotkeys for units unless you use the default command card`
`20:38.10`	`Manquiche`	`GG blizz`
`20:38.37`	`allenmelon`	`IIRC - Interactive Illinois Report Card?`
`20:39.15`	`Icebane`	`How do you import/export Data Editor data?`
`20:39.18`	`Lilianna`	`hotkeys are only on buttons`
`20:39.24`	`Lilianna`	`nothing else. :x`
`20:39.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tofu (~thisisnot@cpc1-woki6-2-0-cust270.6-2.cable.virginmedia.com)`
`20:39.40`	`Syniq`	`allenmelon: If I recall correctly. :p`
`20:39.48`	`Icebane`	`IIRC = I is retarded cow`
`20:39.56`	`Syniq`	`Aww, don't be so hard on yourself.`
`20:40.17`	`allenmelon`	`lol`
`20:40.45`	`Mozared`	`Triceron`
`20:40.48`	`Mozared`	`It works`
`20:41.00`	`Mozared`	`" Animation - Play Ready animation for (Actor for Viking (Assault Mode) [78.69, 28.09]) as Default, using Play Forever options and Default Time blend time" does the job fine`
`20:41.05`	`Triceron`	`sweet!`
`20:41.12`	`Mozared`	`I think you just need to pauze it`
`20:41.17`	`Tofu`	`protoss building. Builds fine, no build time. Checked the build command and it has a 65sec build time in there. Suggestions?`
`20:41.20`	`Mozared`	`or it'll prolly slide across the floor if you engage it`
`20:41.31`	`Mozared`	`and pausing can be annoying if you've got a 'unpause all units' trigger in your cinematics`
`20:41.34`	`Mozared`	`but in my case it works`
`20:41.46`	`Tofu`	`trying to think of things that would reduce the build time to 0 :(`
`20:43.02`	`Syniq`	`goes with Rod and Staff.`
`20:44.22`	`Triceron`	`what kind of map you making Syniq?`
`20:44.45`	`Triceron`	`something... magical?`
`20:45.09`	`Manquiche`	`is there any way to remove every element of the UI except for the command card?`
`20:45.25`	`Manquiche`	`or even just the artwork around each element`
`20:45.52`	`Mozared`	`That should be possible`
`20:45.58`	`Mozared`	`There's various UI sections you can remove at will`
`20:46.26`	`Manquiche`	`im going through them`
`20:46.33`	`Manquiche`	`but unfortunately there is no description`
`20:46.38`	`Manquiche`	`some are obvious, 'menu bar'`
`20:46.41`	`Manquiche`	`some are not :P`
`20:46.41`	`Mozared`	`So hide them all`
`20:46.50`	`Mozared`	`And don't hide the one that looks like it could be the command card? =P`
`20:47.03`	`Manquiche`	`only thing is, theres one called 'battle UI'`
`20:47.07`	`Syniq`	`Triceron: You on the EU servers? If so, come and play it. :p`
`20:47.11`	`Manquiche`	`and only blizzard maps can modify it`
`20:47.16`	`Lilianna`	`Manquiche, http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/dialog-item-templates/`
`20:47.16`	`Triceron`	`no, uS`
`20:47.20`	`Syniq`	`Shame. :(`
`20:47.28`	`Mozared`	`By the way Syniq`
`20:47.33`	`Mozared`	`You should shoot a PM to Vjeux`
`20:47.43`	`Mozared`	`He's told me he wants to feature melee maps on the news`
`20:47.46`	`Manquiche`	`lilianna, thanks but "Hide game UI will disable the hotkeys, even though you've created a Command Card using the Dialog Item."`
`20:47.50`	`Mozared`	`Tell him you made one, he might feature it`
`20:48.06`	`Vulfe`	`O_O`
`20:48.14`	`Lilianna`	`Look for a UI XML edit then`
`20:48.21`	`Lilianna`	`you have to edit the SML to hide stuff`
`20:48.26`	`Lilianna`	`XML`
`20:48.28`	`Triceron`	`how much traffic do you guys think mapster gets?`
`20:48.31`	`Triceron`	`from the SC2 community`
`20:48.38`	`Mozared`	`Over 9000, definitely`
`20:48.41`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Resinate (~IceChat7@c-24-16-10-232.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)`
`20:48.56`	`Manquiche`	`k`
`20:48.57`	`Resinate`	`GG`
`20:49.01`	`Resinate`	`my gtx 2670 fried`
`20:49.09`	`Manquiche`	`2670`
`20:49.10`	`Manquiche`	`!?`
`20:49.17`	`Resinate`	`i have alot running right now`
`20:49.22`	`Resinate`	`so windows jumping around`
`20:49.26`	`Resinate`	`my gtx 260`
`20:49.28`	`Resinate`	`fried`
`20:49.28`	`Syniq`	`Aww, vjeux isn't around. :(`
`20:49.31`	`Resinate`	`today`
`20:49.35`	`Manquiche`	`that sucks bro`
`20:49.35`	`Resinate`	`from sc2 editor`
`20:49.43`	`Mozared`	`Hence why I say shoot him a PM, om the forums`
`20:49.46`	`Manquiche`	`within warranty?`
`20:49.49`	`Resinate`	`with proper heating`
`20:49.58`	`Resinate`	`nah its over a yr old`
`20:50.06`	`Resinate`	`i noticed the corner glitching last night`
`20:50.07`	`Mozared`	`Just put in it that I told you to PM him =P`
`20:50.12`	`Manquiche`	`thats a bastard`
`20:50.13`	`Resinate`	`but didnt pay attention`
`20:50.22`	`Resinate`	`now i have blinking dead pixels all over`
`20:50.32`	`Resinate`	`but they dont stay in same spot`
`20:50.34`	`Mozared`	`Sounds like a disease`
`20:50.36`	`Resinate`	`they bouce around`
`20:51.29`	`currydevil`	`so, anyone good with leaderboards? specifically showing/hiding one board at a time for a specific player?`
`20:51.40`	`Resinate`	`guys`
`20:51.42`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`Xaragoth`
`20:51.46`	`Resinate`	`i dunno how to explain this`
`20:51.51`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`you ladies almost ready?`
`20:51.53`	`Vulfe`	`Lol`
`20:51.54`	`Vulfe`	`Mozared`
`20:51.55`	`Resinate`	`but i can take screens of the dead pixels`
`20:51.56`	`Vulfe`	`In the Mountains`
`20:51.56`	`Vulfe`	`wtf`
`20:51.58`	`Vulfe`	`O_O`
`20:52.09`	`Resinate`	`my friend can see the glitch i have`
`20:52.14`	`Resinate`	`thru screens`
`20:52.22`	`Resinate`	`would that mean i have a virus`
`20:52.27`	`Resinate`	`or a dead vcard?`
`20:53.12`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`erm`
`20:53.15`	`Syniq`	`Mozared: Done. :)`
`20:53.16`	`Resinate`	`WOW`
`20:53.17`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`can anyone else not publish?`
`20:53.23`	`Resinate`	`my whole msn wont talk to me`
`20:53.24`	`Syniq`	`goes for loo and drink.`
`20:53.36`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Loo drink?`
`20:53.57`	`Lilianna`	`the loo`
`20:54.04`	`Lilianna`	`!`
`20:54.07`	`SuraklinSC2`	`currydevil: Leaderboards are pretty easy...`
`20:54.17`	`Lilianna`	`dont drink fromt he loo. :\|`
`20:54.33`	`Resinate`	`u gotta be kidding`
`20:54.45`	`Resinate`	`is there really alot of ddos attacker in this forum?`
`20:54.58`	`Resinate`	`cuz ive heard of 4 ppl from this chat getting hacked`
`20:55.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (4a3ea6d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.62.166.210)`
`20:55.26`	`Resinate`	`YAY for viruses`
`20:55.51`	`Vulfe`	`Does anyone need help`
`20:55.53`	`C-H`	`flying units heighth?`
`20:55.54`	`Vulfe`	`PLEASE`
`20:56.07`	`Manquiche`	`vulfe`
`20:56.10`	`Vulfe`	`WHAT`
`20:56.14`	`Vulfe`	`Oh`
`20:56.16`	`Vulfe`	`what is it`
`20:56.16`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`ima ask again :D`
`20:56.17`	`Vulfe`	`:)`
`20:56.19`	`Manquiche`	`xD`
`20:56.20`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`not sure if ive asked in here.... does anyone here sit on a Roland LAPC-1/MT-32 soundcard they have for sale?`
`20:56.32`	`Vulfe`	`soundcards?`
`20:56.34`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`also, anyone who is familiar / knows how forms work in access using macros`
`20:56.34`	`Lilianna`	`isnt a DDOS attack done to a server, not end users?`
`20:56.34`	`Vulfe`	`Lol`
`20:56.35`	`Vulfe`	`no`
`20:56.37`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Vulfe: yeah`
`20:56.43`	`Vulfe`	`Lilianna: yes`
`20:56.46`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`old one`
`20:56.52`	`Lilianna`	`Resinate is an odd fellow then. :x`
`20:56.59`	`Lilianna`	`or spouting things he knows nothing about!`
`20:57.04`	`Vulfe`	`Manquiche`
`20:57.06`	`Vulfe`	`what do you need`
`20:57.09`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_LAPC-I < that one`
`20:57.09`	`Manquiche`	`give me a simple and easy way to remove every element of the UI except for the command card, without needing any hacky workarounds`
`20:57.15`	`Manquiche`	`have it on my desk by monday`
`20:57.16`	`Manquiche`	`ty :)`
`20:57.17`	`currydevil`	`surakalinsc2: I have the leaderboards made, what i'm trying to do is show/hide one when a player clicks a button`
`20:57.29`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`Manquiche: use helrals library`
`20:57.29`	`currydevil`	`but my trigger is not working.`
`20:57.34`	`Triceron`	`anyone know how to imbed youtube videos in SC2mapster forums?`
`20:57.38`	`Triceron`	`if there's a tag to do it?`
`20:57.38`	`Mozared`	`Fule and Syniq, what's up?`
`20:57.41`	`Lilianna`	`HP-X\|Arthas, that looks like the old Voodoo 3, without the fans`
`20:57.42`	`Mozared`	`Was testing my map, missed your messages`
`20:57.46`	`Mozared`	`Vulfe and Syniq even`
`20:57.49`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Lilianna: its oldar :p`
`20:57.50`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`from 88`
`20:57.55`	`Lilianna`	`xD`
`20:57.59`	`Lilianna`	`thats why it doesnt need the fans`
`20:58.01`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`i have a voodoo 3 though`
`20:58.13`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`although its smaller than that`
`20:58.13`	`Vulfe`	`Manquiche: Lol`
`20:58.15`	`Lilianna`	`I only got up to a Voodoo 2`
`20:58.16`	`Syniq`	`Mozared: Oh, message sent as suggested. :p`
`20:58.21`	`Lilianna`	`maybe it was the Voodoo 5?`
`20:58.22`	`Mozared`	`Ahh, nice nice =)`
`20:58.23`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`that card is more like the gtx285 in length`
`20:58.24`	`currydevil`	`suraklinsc2: I have the leaderboards made, what i'm trying to do is show/hide one when a player clicks a button`
`20:58.26`	`Vulfe`	`You can hide the UI through triggers, but it disables hotkeys`
`20:58.26`	`Lilianna`	`I dont remember, one of them was huge`
`20:58.27`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Lilianna: ya`
`20:58.29`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`prolly`
`20:58.29`	`Manquiche`	`sweetzombiejesus: does that not break hotkeys though?`
`20:58.31`	`Lilianna`	`with 3 or 4 fans on it`
`20:58.32`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`5 was huuuuge`
`20:58.36`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`it does`
`20:58.37`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`and had 2x supplies`
`20:58.40`	`SuraklinSC2`	`pm?`
`20:58.41`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`power supplies`
`20:58.46`	`Manquiche`	`thats why i want to keep the command card`
`20:58.47`	`Lilianna`	`xD`
`20:58.48`	`slightlyrandom`	`currydevil: Save em to Variables, call em with those`
`20:58.52`	`Manquiche`	`as long as i have the command card, hotkeys for it work`
`20:58.56`	`Manquiche`	`afaik`
`20:59.06`	`Vulfe`	`You could use Monitor's system`
`20:59.10`	`Vulfe`	`which might have hotkeys now`
`20:59.10`	`Vulfe`	`idk`
`20:59.11`	`currydevil`	`slightlyrandom I have saved them, the Show/Hide is not working.`
`20:59.12`	`Vulfe`	`it depends`
`20:59.15`	`Manquiche`	`i mean the default command card, not a dialog box command card`
`20:59.20`	`Lilianna`	`Ah the old Voodoo cards, where the drivers had a 3d test with em, to make sure the card was working`
`20:59.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`Then you're doing it wrong`
`20:59.30`	`Vulfe`	`If you don't have ANY abilities that just target units, then hiding the UI doesn't really matter`
`20:59.37`	`Vulfe`	`because you can just spoof the ability usage`
`20:59.46`	`currydevil`	`lol...`
`20:59.51`	`currydevil`	`doing it wrong.`
`20:59.54`	`slightlyrandom`	`Wadduya want me to say?`
`21:00.06`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Lilianna: you dont happen to be familiar w access :p`
`21:00.07`	`currydevil`	`that's why im asking for help but no one is giving me anything that i haven't already done.`
`21:00.12`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`im flipping at it :(`
`21:00.14`	`slightlyrandom`	`Post some code`
`21:00.15`	`Lilianna`	`access the database?`
`21:00.17`	`slightlyrandom`	`Pastebin.org`
`21:00.18`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`yeah`
`21:00.21`	`Lilianna`	`No idea. :x`
`21:00.27`	`Lilianna`	`My mom knows alot about it though`
`21:00.31`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`21:00.34`	`Vulfe`	`I have a question`
`21:00.38`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`she knows how to use forms and shit? :p`
`21:00.38`	`Vulfe`	`wait`
`21:00.39`	`Vulfe`	`maybe`
`21:00.40`	`Vulfe`	`idk`
`21:00.41`	`Vulfe`	`:(`
`21:00.55`	`Lilianna`	`She kept up multiple access databases in the 90s. c.c`
`21:01.02`	`Lilianna`	`for work and friends`
`21:01.05`	`slightlyrandom`	`HP-X\|Arthas: Tried clicking to "Click here to see how to format posts and use fancy stuff" link ?`
`21:01.07`	`Vulfe`	`At any rate, will it work correctly if I access an effect array using unit custom values?`
`21:01.08`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`ah`
`21:01.15`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`slightlyrandom: ?`
`21:01.18`	`slightlyrandom`	`to = the`
`21:01.27`	`slightlyrandom`	`Hm`
`21:01.32`	`slightlyrandom`	`I'm answering an old question`
`21:01.34`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`are you talking about forum post or access`
`21:01.45`	`Syniq`	`Mozared: How's your map going?`
`21:01.49`	`slightlyrandom`	`I'm answering Triceron, I think`
`21:01.54`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`ah`
`21:01.56`	`Mozared`	`I'm just finishing it up`
`21:02.00`	`slightlyrandom`	`Triceron: (23:01:06) slightlyrandom: HP-X\|Arthas: Tried clicking to "Click here to see how to format posts and use fancy stuff" link ?`
`21:02.01`	`Syniq`	`Cool :)`
`21:02.03`	`Mozared`	`I'm trying to find a way to promote Sc2mapster in it`
`21:02.05`	`Mozared`	`But I don't know where`
`21:02.18`	`Mozared`	`As I don't want it in the map, loading screen or description`
`21:02.26`	`Syniq`	`I re-made Cannon Defence for SC2 the other day. :p It's nothing original, but I miss that map dammit! :p`
`21:02.26`	`Lilianna`	`lols, with external power! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voodoo_5_6000.jpg`
`21:02.26`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`ah`
`21:02.34`	`Triceron`	`ooh, okay I'll try that Slightlyrandom. Thx`
`21:02.42`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Lilianna: brings memories back doesnt it :D`
`21:02.46`	`Lilianna`	`Yah`
`21:02.55`	`Syniq`	`Mozared: Make a little custom civilian in the corner who's called Sc2mapster Man! when you click on him? :p`
`21:02.57`	`Lilianna`	`Helping my dad put together a computer`
`21:03.01`	`Lilianna`	`I got to hold the screwdriver!`
`21:03.02`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a324ykKV-7Y`
`21:03.03`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`that for you`
`21:03.15`	`Syniq`	`Mozared: Tooltop: "Shameless plug. :D"`
`21:03.18`	`currydevil`	`http://pastebin.com/xS3XZh2J <- created Lboards and saved to var. http://pastebin.com/rh2rtfdE <- trying to switch them. not working.`
`21:03.18`	`Syniq`	`*tooltop`
`21:03.20`	`Syniq`	`dammit`
`21:03.23`	`Syniq`	`I give up.`
`21:03.28`	`Mozared`	`Wow`
`21:03.40`	`Mozared`	`That's a possibility, it's the easter egg I wanted to implement and it's downright creative too`
`21:03.41`	`Mozared`	`Very nice find`
`21:03.42`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`sigh`
`21:03.51`	`Manquiche`	`making hotkeys for abilities using triggers = laggy ?`
`21:03.52`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`i deleted some maps from my account and now it says there isnt enough space to publish`
`21:04.02`	`Mozared`	`Maybe I should just make units of everyone I want to credit and place them on a deserter rock =P`
`21:04.15`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`SweetZombieJesus: that sucks :\`
`21:04.24`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`i have used 0 bytes now`
`21:04.24`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`...`
`21:04.24`	`Lilianna`	`HP-X\|Arthas, I thinkt hey should have blended the songs better, instead of the pause. :(`
`21:04.28`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`how is that not enough space`
`21:04.31`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`broken crap`
`21:04.43`	`Syniq`	`I love that SC2 supports disabling collision mapping for buildings in a way that lets you stack them but not let units walk through. :p`
`21:04.44`	`Manquiche`	`i miss bnet 1.0`
`21:04.45`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Lilianna: :p`
`21:04.48`	`IskatuMesk`	`damnit`
`21:04.51`	`Syniq`	`Yeah, I miss teh chat rooms.`
`21:05.04`	`IskatuMesk`	`smoothing groups not working on this mesh, and alpha masks not co-operating`
`21:05.12`	`Syniq`	`The random matching is great for the ladder, however.`
`21:05.12`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`I miss the late 90s :p`
`21:05.21`	`Syniq`	`HP-X\|Arthas: Oh dear...`
`21:05.27`	`hyarion`	`HP-X\|Arthas: wtf?`
`21:05.28`	`Syniq`	`HP-X\|Arthas: That's a sign you're getting old. :p`
`21:05.35`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Syniq: not really :p`
`21:05.37`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`im just 23`
`21:05.37`	`Manquiche`	`i miss not having to publish maps and having a map removed completely from bnet because some random soccer mom saw her 3 year old playing a map with naughty words in it`
`21:05.42`	`Syniq`	`tuts.`
`21:05.48`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`hyarion: seriously`
`21:06.18`	`hyarion`	`HP-X\|Arthas: that's just because you looked like HP back then, right? ^^`
`21:06.23`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`nes, snes, n64, square and blizzard were good`
`21:06.28`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`I didnt back then`
`21:06.37`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`ive gone from light blonde to dark blonde on later years`
`21:06.38`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`:p`
`21:06.48`	`Manquiche`	`ah.. the 90s...`
`21:07.13`	`Lilianna`	`I miss not having to work`
`21:07.15`	`Lilianna`	`>.>`
`21:07.15`	`Manquiche`	`rupert the bear, postman pat, biker mice from mars, pokemon, dexters lab, dragonball z, ART ATTACK`
`21:07.18`	`Manquiche`	`those were the days`
`21:07.21`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`ah the 90s, you got banned on servers for having too low latency`
`21:07.33`	`hyarion`	`^^`
`21:07.33`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`:D`
`21:07.35`	`Mozared`	`You bunch of nerds`
`21:07.39`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`good times`
`21:07.39`	`hyarion`	`miss the modem sound`
`21:07.40`	`Rodrigo__`	`IS featured maps not updated yet!?!!?`
`21:07.42`	`Mozared`	`What I remember from the 90s are the backstreet boys`
`21:07.44`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`Lilianna: haha :D`
`21:07.47`	`Syniq`	`is watching the Tic-Tac-Toe video.`
`21:07.54`	`Manquiche`	`i remember the original worms game on psx`
`21:07.57`	`Syniq`	`The voice acting is... unique. :D`
`21:08.00`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`I hate work`
`21:08.04`	`Syniq`	`Who doesn't?`
`21:08.14`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`actually worked today, 98% of the customers called about the same thing :(`
`21:08.20`	`hyarion`	`on psx? you mean snes or pc right? ^^`
`21:08.27`	`ReckeD`	`where are the icons for Minerals/Vespsene/Supply in the data editor?`
`21:08.35`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`wasnt original worms for amiga?`
`21:08.43`	`ReckeD`	`the ones that display in the top right of screen i mean`
`21:08.46`	`Triceron`	`pimping time!`
`21:08.46`	`Lilianna`	`I had the original Gameboy`
`21:08.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`Mozared ARGH THE FLASHBACKS`
`21:08.50`	`Lilianna`	`it was awesome and huge`
`21:08.51`	`Triceron`	`made a thread for a few of my models`
`21:08.52`	`Triceron`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/artist-tavern/10783-showcase-custom-zerg-models/`
`21:08.54`	`Manquiche`	`hyarion: psx bro`
`21:08.58`	`Lilianna`	`Monogreen!`
`21:08.59`	`hyarion`	`HP-X\|Arthas: can't you just record a generic answer and play to all costumers?`
`21:09.00`	`Manquiche`	`the original playstation`
`21:09.01`	`Mozared`	`Hmm, who else of you should I credit?`
`21:09.01`	`slightlyrandom`	`currydevil: Wrong action. The one you're looking for is Show/Hide Leaderboard`
`21:09.02`	`Manquiche`	`the big grey brick`
`21:09.08`	`Mozared`	`There's a bunch of people who helped me but I can't recall all of you`
`21:09.09`	`Manquiche`	`not the little white frizbee`
`21:09.28`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`hyarion: yeah, unless they all had a different level of rage`
`21:09.42`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`I never had a gameboy :p`
`21:09.49`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`im hunting one now with a decent screen`
`21:09.52`	`Vulfe`	`WOW`
`21:09.53`	`Syniq`	`Triceron: Oooh, nice!`
`21:09.53`	`Vulfe`	`I JUST REALIZE`
`21:09.54`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`hyarion: you are the king of nintendo`
`21:09.54`	`Vulfe`	`D`
`21:09.57`	`Vulfe`	`NO WAY`
`21:09.58`	`slightlyrandom`	`Mozared: Clearly I helped you`
`21:09.58`	`Manquiche`	`i had every gameboy up to the gameboy advance SP`
`21:09.58`	`Vulfe`	`OMG`
`21:09.58`	`Vulfe`	`WTF`
`21:09.59`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`you have any?`
`21:10.06`	`Vulfe`	`I just realized`
`21:10.08`	`Syniq`	`Triceron: I may have a job for you in about 6 months time! :p`
`21:10.08`	`Vulfe`	`my projectile`
`21:10.11`	`Vulfe`	`had been killing itself`
`21:10.14`	`Rodrigo__`	`is waiting featured maps that are now 1 day late.....`
`21:10.14`	`Vulfe`	`with psiblades`
`21:10.15`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`21:10.16`	`hyarion`	`HP-X\|Arthas: looks like it's was made for amig first`
`21:10.17`	`Manquiche`	`rofl`
`21:10.19`	`hyarion`	`*amiga`
`21:10.22`	`Mozared`	`You did?`
`21:10.22`	`HP-X\|Arthas`	`thought so`
`21:10.26`	`Mozared`	`I honestly can't recall`
`21:10.27`	`Manquiche`	`ah well`
`21:10.29`	`slightlyrandom`	`Haha`
`21:10.30`	`Manquiche`	`the psx version was better`
`21:10.31`	`slightlyrandom`	`Me neither`
`21:10.32`	`Mozared`	`Only names I recall for sure are Pinzu and Vulfe =P`
`21:10.36`	`hyarion`	`blitz basic even ^^`
`21:10.41`	`Mozared`	`You might've helped me with triggers at some point, though`
`21:10.43`	`slightlyrandom`	`What's the map you made? :)`
`21:10.50`	`Mozared`	`Can't say yet, contest map`
`21:10.52`	`slightlyrandom`	`fair`
`21:10.53`	`currydevil`	`slightlyrandom: Well from what i've seen the show/hide applies to ALL leaderboards, as it specifically states in the tooltip for the action. I don't want ALL boards hidden ...`
`21:10.54`	`Manquiche`	`mozared i helped you! i told you the cheat code to reveal map`
`21:10.56`	`Manquiche`	`never forget`
`21:10.59`	`slightlyrandom`	`I probably didn't, then`
`21:11.02`	`Vulfe`	`???`
`21:11.02`	`Mozared`	`Haha, I'll add you Manquiche =P`
`21:11.05`	`Manquiche`	`xD`
`21:11.07`	`Vulfe`	`Stop saying my name`
`21:11.09`	`Vulfe`	`just because I'm awesome`
`21:11.11`	`Arthas-`	`wth am i using the other chat when i have this`
`21:11.11`	`Arthas-`	`:p`
`21:11.17`	`Rodrigo__`	`Mozared, if you win, you host a party to sc2mapsters`
`21:11.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`currydevil: I think you'll want to make a custom dialog instead of a leaderboard`
`21:11.27`	`Mozared`	`Yeah, I'll fly you all over from USA`
`21:11.31`	`Mozared`	`There goes my 5000 bucks`
`21:11.33`	`Arthas-`	`btw hyarion, bring megaman 2 over tomorrow and play?`
`21:11.36`	`Rodrigo__`	`lol`
`21:11.43`	`Syniq`	`Mozared: Are you done yet? xD`
`21:11.43`	`Arthas-`	`also, do you know access?`
`21:11.53`	`slightlyrandom`	`That's unless you can specify the Show/Hide Leaderboard action to apply to a specific one, I honestly can't recall if you can`
`21:11.57`	`Mozared`	`Nearly Syniq... decided I'm gonna leave some stuff for later`
`21:11.59`	`Arthas-`	`or rather using access 2007 to make forms :\`
`21:12.02`	`hyarion`	`Arthas-: sure`
`21:12.03`	`Mozared`	`so I'm saving it now and all`
`21:12.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`Because that IS the way you show and hide it`
`21:12.33`	`Arthas-`	`I feel like they handed me the router assignment and told me there is a language called Jav.... something and that I should use that`
`21:12.39`	`slightlyrandom`	`Java?`
`21:12.49`	`Arthas-`	`I was referring to that yes`
`21:13.05`	`slightlyrandom`	`Coulda been JavaScript`
`21:13.11`	`slightlyrandom`	`although that doesn't really apply`
`21:13.34`	`Arthas-`	`"Oh hey, write this piece of software in a language called something, but dont pick the wrong language"`
`21:13.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`google it Arthas-, google it`
`21:13.41`	`Arthas-`	`slightlyrandom trust me, I tried :p`
`21:13.45`	`slightlyrandom`	`Google more!`
`21:13.47`	`Arthas-`	`didnt try AV though`
`21:13.49`	`slightlyrandom`	`Or use BING`
`21:13.50`	`slightlyrandom`	`:D`
`21:13.56`	`Arthas-`	`I actually use AV / Google`
`21:14.00`	`Manquiche`	`askjeeves is where are the cool kids search`
`21:14.03`	`slightlyrandom`	`hehe`
`21:14.08`	`currydevil`	`slightlyrandom: i could do it caveman style and move the ones i want hidden off the screen >.> but i'll play with dialogs later`
`21:14.41`	`slightlyrandom`	`I think http://www.ixquick.com/ searches on all the search engines`
`21:14.50`	`slightlyrandom`	`But I mostly get worse results there than on google`
`21:14.57`	`Syniq`	`grumbles about forgetting to generate defaults...`
`21:14.58`	`slightlyrandom`	`Since, well, all the other engines are worse`
`21:15.22`	`Manquiche`	`google is going to own everything eventually`
`21:15.53`	`slightlyrandom`	`SkyNet, here we come`
`21:15.59`	`Manquiche`	`inded`
`21:16.01`	`Manquiche`	`indeed*`
`21:16.22`	`Arthas-`	`fuck yeah`
`21:16.24`	`slightlyrandom`	`Actually, it'll probably be more like the Matrix`
`21:16.25`	`Rodrigo__`	`people are making now a petition to ban nexus wars. I'm pretty sure they are reporting the map. This is retarded, lilman (the nexus wars creator) has nothing to do with it.`
`21:16.28`	`Arthas-`	`we need another world war`
`21:16.50`	`slightlyrandom`	`I'm out`
`21:16.59`	`Triceron`	`the bug still persists?`
`21:17.08`	`Triceron`	`nexus wars bug?`
`21:17.10`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`21:17.16`	`Vulfe`	`It's the game lobby bug!?`
`21:17.20`	`Vulfe`	`EVERY MAP IS NEXAS WARS`
`21:17.24`	`Manquiche`	`oh god`
`21:17.25`	`Vulfe`	`WHAT KIND OF PAINFUL HELL IS THIS`
`21:17.28`	`Syniq`	`Arthas-: No we don't! Haven't you heard the saying "Zum dritten Mal GlÃ¼ck!`
`21:17.30`	`Syniq`	`? :p`
`21:17.30`	`hyarion`	`Arthas-: the router project wasn't that bad ^^`
`21:17.40`	`Icebane`	`Anyone know why behaviors dissapear directly after added by (apply buff)?`
`21:17.42`	`Arthas-`	`hyarion fuck you :p`
`21:17.44`	`hyarion`	`haha`
`21:17.55`	`Arthas-`	`I hate both that one and java`
`21:17.56`	`Arthas-`	`:p`
`21:17.59`	`Manquiche`	`why oh why isnt there any comprehensive documentation on the galaxy editor!?`
`21:17.59`	`hyarion`	`trust me, it's just as horrible as that one in the real world :P`
`21:18.14`	`Manquiche`	`i refuse to believe that the game devs even had this thing installed on their workstations`
`21:19.13`	`Rodrigo__`	`yes Triceron, the but persists but I believe blizz is fixing it`
`21:19.37`	`Vulfe`	`Hokay.....`
`21:19.38`	`Vulfe`	`Hmmm`
`21:19.39`	`Vulfe`	`Sooo`
`21:19.41`	`Syniq`	`Manquiche: They probably did most of it with just the Terrain editor and then wrote scripts for the rest.`
`21:19.42`	`Vulfe`	`Trigonometry`
`21:19.43`	`Vulfe`	`= not fun`
`21:19.45`	`Arthas-`	`Manquiche there might just aswell be documentation with information they dont want to give out`
`21:19.58`	`Manquiche`	`true`
`21:20.04`	`Arthas-`	`most likely explanation`
`21:20.43`	`Manquiche`	`do you think i could remove the artwork surrounding the game UI using the data editor?`
`21:20.59`	`Arthas-`	`dont think so`
`21:21.03`	`Lilianna`	`Manquiche, Someone was making a zombie map, changed it into paper`
`21:21.09`	`Lilianna`	`so you could make the artwork transparent`
`21:21.15`	`Arthas-`	`Lilianna bifuu or grum i think`
`21:21.21`	`Lilianna`	`I think it was Bifuu`
`21:21.29`	`Manquiche`	`lilianna, that sounds perfect`
`21:21.37`	`Syniq`	`Right, that's better.`
`21:21.38`	`Lilianna`	`Youd have to speak with him about it`
`21:21.41`	`Lilianna`	`Dunno how he did it`
`21:21.42`	`Arthas-`	`~seen Bifuu`
`21:21.48`	`purl`	`bifuu <~Bifuu@cpe-071-077-145-012.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 6h 39m 50s ago, saying: 'i win'.`
`21:21.49`	`Manquiche`	`whats his name? Someone?`
`21:21.50`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`21:21.53`	`Syniq`	`Game created. Anyone wanna play this new 3v3 map with me and Mozared?`
`21:21.57`	`Lilianna`	`Bifuu`
`21:22.00`	`Manquiche`	`ah`
`21:22.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`well, I officially have no idea why the smoothing doesn't work`
`21:22.16`	`Manquiche`	`best way to get in touch? pm on sc2mapster?`
`21:22.29`	`Lilianna`	`I dunno`
`21:22.31`	`ReckeD`	`How do i go about overwriting Assets/Textures/icon-mineral.dds in the import manager?`
`21:22.37`	`Manquiche`	`k, thanks though`
`21:22.41`	`Lilianna`	`He's in here from time to time`
`21:22.45`	`Syniq`	`Character name is Syniq, code is 101.`
`21:22.46`	`Manquiche`	`ill need to try to find this elusive gentleman`
`21:22.52`	`Lilianna`	`It doesnt remove the map or stuff though`
`21:22.53`	`Lilianna`	`just the art`
`21:22.57`	`Manquiche`	`yeah thats fine`
`21:23.02`	`Manquiche`	`the UI is great`
`21:23.07`	`Manquiche`	`but IMO the art takes up too much space`
`21:23.16`	`Manquiche`	`i dont like cluttered UIs`
`21:23.24`	`Arthas-`	`~seen Witchsong`
`21:23.26`	`purl`	`witchsong <~nomail@120.252.202.84.customer.cdi.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 60d 4h 55m 16s ago, saying: 'All exams done now, so plenty of free time the rest of the summer. :D'.`
`21:23.34`	`Arthas-`	`what happened to him :p`
`21:24.02`	`Syniq`	`Haha`
`21:24.05`	`Syniq`	`Irony. :D`
`21:24.14`	`Mozared`	`lol`
`21:24.15`	`Mozared`	`epic irony`
`21:25.27`	`Rodrigo__`	`I wish my characters code was 666`
`21:25.39`	`Arthas-`	`something tells me you cant have 666`
`21:25.41`	`Rodrigo__`	`that would be so cool`
`21:25.47`	`Arthas-`	`since blizz are chicken wussies`
`21:25.47`	`Rodrigo__`	`why not??`
`21:25.55`	`Arthas-`	`cause they ban the use of the word god?`
`21:26.01`	`Rodrigo__`	`so you cannot have 13 too?`
`21:26.06`	`Syniq`	`Do they? O.o`
`21:26.07`	`Rodrigo__`	`because its a bad number`
`21:26.10`	`Syniq`	`I haven't noticed that`
`21:26.13`	`Rodrigo__`	`and 24, because its a gay number`
`21:26.15`	`Arthas-`	`13 is a number of bad luck`
`21:26.16`	`Rodrigo__`	`and 666?`
`21:26.19`	`Syniq`	`thwacks Rodrigo__`
`21:26.22`	`Arthas-`	`666 is a religious number`
`21:26.24`	`Rodrigo__`	`lol`
`21:26.26`	`Syniq`	`It's a differently-straight number`
`21:26.27`	`Arthas-`	`88 might be banned aswell`
`21:26.36`	`Arthas-`	`im not to sure of that one though`
`21:26.37`	`Rodrigo__`	`666 is the supertition to be the devil's number`
`21:27.00`	`Syniq`	`Except it isn't, it's actually 616, but since when have facts stopped fundies? ;)`
`21:27.02`	`Rodrigo__`	`so, 700 users are actually 699 users?`
`21:27.07`	`Manquiche`	`do you think 8008135 is banned?`
`21:27.13`	`Arthas-`	`Syniq for the general pop its 666`
`21:27.14`	`Manquiche`	`cos upside down it looks like BOOBIES!`
`21:27.17`	`Rodrigo__`	`my id is 881, so I was the player number 880? this is retarded`
`21:27.24`	`Manquiche`	`well, backwards`
`21:27.26`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`21:27.28`	`Manquiche`	`i fail`
`21:27.29`	`ReckeD`	`How do i go about overwriting Assets/Textures/icon-mineral.dds in the import manager?`
`21:27.43`	`IskatuMesk`	`http://a.imageshack.us/img704/5088/screenshot2010090714212.jpg`
`21:27.47`	`Arthas-`	`~seen Hati`
`21:27.49`	`purl`	`hati <kvirc@dslb-088-074-130-025.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 9d 10h 16m 31s ago, saying: 'to keep him awake :o'.`
`21:27.49`	`IskatuMesk`	`THE SMOOTHING GROUPS THEY DO NOT CO-OPERATE`
`21:27.53`	`Xaragoth`	`enough playing, back to terrain`
`21:27.58`	`Arthas-`	`might also have been hati who made that map`
`21:28.01`	`curry-work`	`i bet someone out there has 420 .. it's religous to some people ;)`
`21:28.07`	`Syniq`	`The FPS thing is really cool`
`21:28.08`	`curry-work`	`or how about 069?`
`21:28.11`	`Rodrigo__`	`its like the most people who play the 1st page maps. retarded. I was playing Platform Defense, a player killed all the allies and then he realized it was a co-op game.`
`21:28.11`	`Mozared`	`~seen Haiti`
`21:28.13`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'haiti', Mozared`
`21:28.18`	`Mozared`	`Derp derp`
`21:28.20`	`Lilianna`	`Its some evil monster butt`
`21:28.31`	`Syniq`	`IskatuMesk: Is that a screenie?`
`21:28.39`	`Lilianna`	`his tail looks really square`
`21:28.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`yes`
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`21:28.50`	`IskatuMesk`	`lilianna YES`
`21:28.57`	`IskatuMesk`	`that is the smoothing group not doing any smoothing`
`21:29.07`	`IskatuMesk`	`it breaks his skin if it doesn't exist and it doesn't happen to exist`
`21:29.10`	`IskatuMesk`	`thus the root of our problems`
`21:29.25`	`Lilianna`	`Use a hammer?`
`21:29.33`	`IskatuMesk`	`like a hick? sure`
`21:29.39`	`IskatuMesk`	`I got one in the shed`
`21:29.39`	`Xaragoth`	`when you have a hammer everything looks like nails`
`21:29.44`	`Xaragoth`	`starts to hit random people.`
`21:29.44`	`IskatuMesk`	`:D`
`21:30.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`there must be some reason the exporter doesn't want to export the smoothing group for his body`
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`21:30.04`	`Lilianna`	`Your hammer isnt large enough for these giant nails`
`21:30.11`	`Lilianna`	`You must find a larger one Xaragoth!`
`21:30.19`	`IskatuMesk`	`the staff is fine`
`21:30.23`	`IskatuMesk`	`other than the texture being so low res`
`21:30.24`	`Xaragoth`	`you have no idea how big my hammer is lolz`
`21:30.29`	`Lilianna`	`IskatuMesk, you didnt say please`
`21:30.30`	`Mozared`	`Just a loo break Syniq, then I'm set`
`21:30.34`	`IskatuMesk`	`lul`
`21:30.50`	`Lilianna`	`>.>`
`21:31.06`	`ReckeD`	`anyone?`
`21:31.15`	`ReckeD`	`overwriting Assets/Textures/icon-mineral.dds in the import manager?`
`21:31.26`	`ReckeD`	`cant find any info on it`
`21:32.23`	`Syniq`	`Mozared: Cool :)`
`21:32.25`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmmmmm I wonder if it's because he uses a multi object material`
`21:32.35`	`IskatuMesk`	`the plot thickens`
`21:32.36`	`Syniq`	`Anyone else? 3v3 melee on my map with the funky choke point? :D`
`21:32.42`	`UltiDrgn`	`....There's your problem Mesk`
`21:32.53`	`Mozared`	`All set now`
`21:32.53`	`UltiDrgn`	`Split your model up into different meshes based on smoothing groups`
`21:32.58`	`Arthas-`	`hyarion I has an auiobook for you called "De norrbotniska satansverserna"`
`21:33.00`	`UltiDrgn`	`Texture each individually`
`21:33.01`	`UltiDrgn`	`???`
`21:33.02`	`Arthas-`	`audiobook`
`21:33.02`	`UltiDrgn`	`profit`
`21:33.26`	`IskatuMesk`	`will that break his anims?`
`21:33.38`	`UltiDrgn`	`Show me this model`
`21:33.54`	`UltiDrgn`	`And yes it will break them if you don't skin mod the newly created groups`
`21:33.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`it's a model from lineage 2`
`21:33.57`	`Mozared`	`The thick plottens`
`21:33.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`if I touch the skin modifier - ok`
`21:34.03`	`IskatuMesk`	`then we're screwed`
`21:34.27`	`IskatuMesk`	`well then.`
`21:34.29`	`Mozared`	`So when do we start Syniq?`
`21:34.46`	`hyarion`	`Arthas-: haha wtf?`
`21:35.01`	`Syniq`	`Mozared: Poke someone and get them to join as well. :p`
`21:35.06`	`IskatuMesk`	`so I guess there is no way to get the smoothing groups to work with the multi object`
`21:35.16`	`Mozared`	`I'll show you how you do this:`
`21:35.26`	`Mozared`	`If you're on EU, you must come online to test Syniq's map with us, NOW`
`21:35.31`	`Mozared`	`Or I WILL slap you wish a fish`
`21:35.35`	`Mozared`	`A rotten fish`
`21:35.38`	`IskatuMesk`	`a hairy fish?`
`21:35.39`	`Arthas-`	`hyarion they are awesome`
`21:35.42`	`Mozared`	`A hairy rotten fish`
`21:35.44`	`Mozared`	`You have been warned`
`21:36.13`	`Syniq`	`\o/`
`21:36.20`	`Syniq`	`Add me: Syniq 101`
`21:36.24`	`Syniq`	`is waiting for add spam. :p`
`21:37.03`	`Otixa`	`kicks Syniq`
`21:37.09`	`Manquiche`	`hey sweet`
`21:37.10`	`Syniq`	`Ow. :(`
`21:37.32`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`21:37.44`	`Syniq`	`Would ideally like a proper 3v3 really, as it gives me 5 other people's feedback instead of 2 and 3 dead VIs. :p`
`21:37.59`	`Otixa`	`roars`
`21:38.16`	`Mozared`	`Let me know here when we fill up Syniq`
`21:38.21`	`Mozared`	`I'll surf the web for a bit`
`21:38.29`	`Jum-Jum`	`theres a featured map from blizzard up`
`21:38.33`	`Jum-Jum`	`which has the lava thing going on`
`21:38.37`	`Xaragoth`	`I'm kinda hungry.`
`21:38.41`	`Xaragoth`	`looks around for someone to eat`
`21:38.53`	`Manquiche`	`ill join if you like`
`21:38.59`	`Manquiche`	`syniq, mozared`
`21:39.00`	`Otixa`	`throws a molten hot cheese sandwich in Xaragoth's face`
`21:39.00`	`Syniq`	`Mozared: I think I'm going to change the name, actually... ;)`
`21:39.06`	`Syniq`	`Manquiche: Add me. :)`
`21:39.09`	`IskatuMesk`	`Otixa>> I have a model that is from l2. It's dependent on a 3-part multi object material. I'm trying to get smoothing groups to work on it. There's no way I can fix the animations if I break the skin modifier. Any way around this?`
`21:39.11`	`Xaragoth`	`licks it from his face.`
`21:39.11`	`Mozared`	`Grand`
`21:39.14`	`Xaragoth`	`Indeed, its food.`
`21:39.19`	`Manquiche`	`syniq, EU right?`
`21:39.22`	`Syniq`	`yeah`
`21:39.24`	`Manquiche`	`k`
`21:39.37`	`Syniq`	`The continent restriction is lame.`
`21:39.47`	`Otixa`	`IskatuMesk, not sure. Just bake down all the textures into 1`
`21:39.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`that sounds nightmarishly difficult`
`21:40.20`	`Otixa`	`notrly`
`21:40.31`	`Otixa`	`Render to texture > ??? > PROFIT`
`21:40.54`	`IskatuMesk`	`hmm`
`21:40.59`	`IskatuMesk`	`I'll have to try this later`
`21:41.05`	`IskatuMesk`	`I think I have an idea how to do it`
`21:41.07`	`Syniq`	`wants a cheese sammich. D:`
`21:41.19`	`Otixa`	`melts Syniq's face`
`21:41.20`	`IskatuMesk`	`must go afk for now`
`21:41.54`	`Syniq`	`Oh, OK, Shadow of Death //is// available.`
`21:41.59`	`Syniq`	`re-publishes as that. :p`
`21:43.34`	`Manquiche`	`syniq im on galaxy editor. message me on here when you're hosting a game`
`21:43.52`	`Mozared`	`We could try 3vsAI? you'd know if AIs work on your map, Syniq?`
`21:44.12`	`Syniq`	`Manquiche: Game is hosting now.`
`21:44.20`	`Syniq`	`Mozared: They should do.`
`21:44.41`	`Manquiche`	`syniq i await an invite`
`21:44.52`	`Syniq`	`Assuming the standard Melee initialisation includes AI kickoffage.`
`21:45.25`	`Syniq`	`Manquiche: Can't see you on my list.`
`21:45.35`	`Syniq`	`guesses the character add process isn't bidirectional.`
`21:45.37`	`Manquiche`	`i messaged you but you reconnected`
`21:45.39`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`21:45.42`	`Syniq`	`Oh, odd...`
`21:45.44`	`Manquiche`	`messaged you again`
`21:47.09`	`Blacksoldier`	`syniq testing map?`
`21:47.33`	`Clord`	`it is nice to see some numbers etc :)`
`21:47.42`	`Clord`	`THE Card Game has now second place in EU`
`21:47.50`	`Syniq`	`Blacksoldier: Yeah.`
`21:47.54`	`Blacksoldier`	`would like to test a map of a good mapper`
`21:47.56`	`Syniq`	`3v3 melee`
`21:47.59`	`Blacksoldier`	`insteat of always my crap`
`21:47.59`	`Blacksoldier`	`^^`
`21:47.59`	`Mozared`	`THE Card Game best map EU`
`21:48.04`	`Blacksoldier`	`ah 3v3 melee`
`21:48.09`	`Blacksoldier`	`ok i dont like melee ^^`
`21:48.12`	`Syniq`	`:o`
`21:48.12`	`Mozared`	`Even though I still don't understand why THE is capitalized`
`21:48.14`	`Syniq`	`Heathen. :p`
`21:48.19`	`Mozared`	`You don't have to Black`
`21:48.28`	`Blacksoldier`	`not that much to test no-blizzard maps`
`21:48.29`	`Clord`	`4314 games played last hour... almost 1500 more than Nexus Wars`
`21:48.32`	`Clord`	`and it is rising XD`
`21:48.38`	`Mozared`	`Soon it'll be over 9000`
`21:48.42`	`Manquiche`	`omg its clord`
`21:48.49`	`Clord`	`btw....`
`21:48.50`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`21:48.51`	`Clord`	`Baneling Arena`
`21:48.53`	`Clord`	`is falling`
`21:48.54`	`Clord`	`and fast`
`21:48.54`	`Blacksoldier`	`cardgame is cool...`
`21:48.55`	`Clord`	`XD`
`21:49.02`	`Mozared`	`It was pretty decent`
`21:49.05`	`Mozared`	`But the lag made it sucky`
`21:49.06`	`Clord`	`it dropped out from first page very fast =)`
`21:49.13`	`Mozared`	`and the cardgame is fun with randoms`
`21:49.15`	`Mozared`	`I go -music all the time now`
`21:49.16`	`Blacksoldier`	`kinda strange that siege tank is totally op as soon he arrives the fortress`
`21:49.19`	`Mozared`	`And everybody copies me =')`
`21:49.20`	`Blacksoldier`	`but the rest is okay`
`21:49.31`	`Manquiche`	`-music?`
`21:49.33`	`Manquiche`	`hmm`
`21:49.36`	`Syniq`	`Clord: You firing banelings at people? :p`
`21:49.36`	`Manquiche`	`i r intrigued`
`21:49.36`	`Mozared`	`Aye, the balance can be a bit icky black`
`21:49.38`	`Syniq`	`Or was that someone else?`
`21:49.51`	`Mozared`	`sometimes there's there's unbreakable combinations`
`21:49.54`	`Syniq`	`Mozared, Manquiche: Right. 3v3AI?`
`21:49.58`	`Mozared`	`like siege tank with a couple of ghosts, and void rays or so`
`21:50.00`	`Mozared`	`I'm all up`
`21:50.01`	`Manquiche`	`k`
`21:50.03`	`Mozared`	`will go in-game now then`
`21:50.16`	`Blacksoldier`	`i always save 3 gold cards and rush all at once ^^`
`21:50.19`	`Blacksoldier`	`= autowin`
`21:50.26`	`Blacksoldier`	`maybe with upgrade cards`
`21:50.47`	`Otixa`	`http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/CAPTCHAd.aspx`
`21:50.47`	`Blacksoldier`	`one tim i was lucky to get eleite trainig after giving 1 rayner 1 nova and 2 kerrigans`
`21:50.48`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`21:51.31`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`hm how do i prevent units to move back to their position when pushed?`
`21:51.53`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`do they move back because of a unit flag or because of a ai flag on the push effect?`
`21:52.50`	`Clord`	`hmmm`
`21:53.07`	`Clord`	`that command is secret ;)`
`21:53.14`	`Clord`	`XD`
`21:53.25`	`Clord`	`or more like`
`21:53.25`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`so you dont know :P`
`21:53.33`	`Clord`	`I still forgot to type it for F12 menu ^^`
`21:54.40`	`Clord`	`this custom game list bugs lol... >_>`
`21:54.48`	`Clord`	`now my map is again featured with baneling arena`
`21:54.53`	`Clord`	`yet moments ago`
`21:54.55`	`Clord`	`I saw real numbers`
`21:54.57`	`Clord`	`^^`
`21:55.51`	`Clord`	`http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/103849086-4.jpg`
`21:56.47`	`casperb`	`There is only nexus wars o.o`
`21:56.55`	`casperb`	`Most epic bug ever :D`
`21:58.13`	`Otixa`	`Phaos`
`21:58.15`	`Otixa`	`Phaos`
`21:58.17`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`21:59.45`	`Blacksoldier`	`is it right that units normally are unable to shoot ove cliffs - even when they can see the target?`
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`22:00.34`	`Demonette`	`Nighty night folks`
`22:01.16`	`Lilianna`	`o.o`
`22:01.23`	`Lilianna`	`there are now no games on Battle net for me`
`22:01.33`	`Lilianna`	`weird!`
`22:01.36`	`Lilianna`	`now they are back`
`22:01.46`	`Triceron`	`Phaos`
`22:02.16`	`Vophsix`	`who has played galcon before?`
`22:02.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Trunk (4dbe68fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.190.104.250)`
`22:02.32`	`Trunk`	`hey guys`
`22:02.49`	`Trunk`	`is there any way to set the default test race in the editor to terran?`
`22:03.25`	`Otixa`	`turbosmooths Lilianna`
`22:03.52`	`Vophsix`	`map -> player properties -> player 1 -> race: terran`
`22:04.33`	`Tinman`	`Remember to set it back to Any if you want players to choose ;)`
`22:04.49`	`Trunk`	`alright ty`
`22:05.19`	`Vophsix`	`someone up for map testing?`
`22:05.23`	`Clord`	`actually... remember to set it back unless you want publishing to fail`
`22:05.23`	`Clord`	`XD`
`22:05.52`	`Tinman`	`I need to figure out my own map...`
`22:06.06`	`Tinman`	`I don't even know how to make the simplest things`
`22:06.29`	`Tinman`	`My map idea is so easy, but yet I can't do it :p`
`22:07.12`	`Tinman`	`Basically because I don't bother trying stuff out, as I can't add the path blocker in space, they need to be on some sort of land :(`
`22:07.13`	`Vophsix`	`well i'll help you test it if you want to try out mine ^^`
`22:07.32`	`Clord`	`to be honest`
`22:07.34`	`Vophsix`	`can you not "ignore placement"`
`22:07.35`	`Clord`	`I'm sick of damn editor`
`22:07.36`	`Clord`	`XD`
`22:07.44`	`Clord`	`not because how hard it is use or something`
`22:07.52`	`Syniq`	`Hmm..`
`22:07.54`	`Clord`	`lol`
`22:07.57`	`Syniq`	`gets to fixing the minor bugs...`
`22:08.19`	`Clord`	`so these "demands/suggestions"`
`22:08.21`	`Clord`	`^^`
`22:08.31`	`Clord`	`it might take days before I even start to trigger something`
`22:08.53`	`Vophsix`	`so Clord - you are sick of the editor - want to play a game? :)`
`22:09.43`	`Manquiche`	`halp`
`22:09.48`	`Vophsix`	`silence`
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`22:10.24`	`Manquiche`	`:(`
`22:10.31`	`Manquiche`	`vophsix`
`22:10.36`	`Vophsix`	`hm?`
`22:10.44`	`Manquiche`	`you wouldnt happen to know how to remove the artwork of the UI would you?`
`22:11.16`	`Vophsix`	`only the art, as in not the command card etc?`
`22:11.31`	`Manquiche`	`yeah`
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`22:11.42`	`Vophsix`	`not sure`
`22:11.46`	`Manquiche`	`not the actual UI frames, just the artwork surrounding them`
`22:11.47`	`Vophsix`	`never done that before`
`22:11.57`	`Vophsix`	`maybe replace the textures in the data editor with nothing`
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`22:12.19`	`Manquiche`	`ive been unable to find the path for the textures in the data editor`
`22:12.23`	`Manquiche`	`the field*`
`22:12.52`	`Blacksoldier`	`tinman - i dont know if ur defination of space is correct... maybe the space ur searching for is a sort of terrain and not "no terrain"`
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`22:15.25`	`Syniq`	`Manquiche, Mozared: What you think?`
`22:15.28`	`Clord`	`lol`
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`22:15.34`	`Clord`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHFZ-Ecd_ek`
`22:15.38`	`Mozared`	`I think the concept was interesting`
`22:15.42`	`Tinman`	`Well I managed to do add the blockers, but then my next problem comes, I only want it to block some units some places...`
`22:15.43`	`Mozared`	`But god was the terrain boring =P`
`22:15.50`	`Syniq`	`Yeah, it's not finished yet. :p`
`22:15.56`	`Mozared`	`Might also be a bit biased towards mobility`
`22:16.00`	`Manquiche`	`i think the map was a bit too big`
`22:16.02`	`Manquiche`	`for 3v3`
`22:16.06`	`Manquiche`	`just a touch`
`22:16.06`	`Komodo1138`	`hey Guys and Gals`
`22:16.10`	`Mozared`	`I mean, mobility is always good in 3v3 and 4v4`
`22:16.15`	`Mozared`	`but yeah, with this size, flying owns all`
`22:16.20`	`Syniq`	`Hmm. :/`
`22:16.25`	`Mozared`	`you can be everywhere, an army of say, stalkers, is fucked completely`
`22:16.42`	`Manquiche`	`it also feels very 'spread out'`
`22:16.55`	`Manquiche`	`probably because there isnt a great deal of 'content' throughout`
`22:17.01`	`Manquiche`	`if you know what i mean`
`22:17.05`	`Manquiche`	`doodads and such`
`22:17.18`	`Manquiche`	`but i like the idea of a big choke in the middle :P`
`22:17.23`	`Tinman`	`Sigh, I might have a great map idea, and even a good music score for it, but hell if I am able to actually make the map ^^`
`22:17.58`	`Manquiche`	`tinman, whats you're idea and why cant you actually make it?`
`22:18.26`	`Tinman`	`My idea is good, but I am bad :(`
`22:18.28`	`Manquiche`	`your*`
`22:18.31`	`Tinman`	`basically`
`22:19.02`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`22:19.08`	`Manquiche`	`bad as in?`
`22:19.24`	`Tinman`	`I suck at making cool stuff with the map editor`
`22:19.47`	`Tinman`	`or anything not covered in a video tutorial by OneTwo :p`
`22:19.52`	`Manquiche`	`rofl`
`22:19.57`	`Manquiche`	`im a newb too`
`22:20.04`	`Manquiche`	`just gotta plug away at it and try to figure stuff out`
`22:20.11`	`Manquiche`	`and beg for help here :P`
`22:20.19`	`*** join/#sc2mapster marine63 (621891af@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.24.145.175)`
`22:20.22`	`marine63`	`hello everyone`
`22:20.25`	`Manquiche`	`hi`
`22:20.28`	`marine63`	`â¥`
`22:20.54`	`marine63`	`Got a problem that needs fixing if anyone willing to help`
`22:21.05`	`Tinman`	`Well, what I want is to have some "global" path blockers that block all units, and some that only blocks one unit... its complicated simplicity...`
`22:21.32`	`marine63`	`:o`
`22:21.43`	`Manquiche`	`not a scooby :P`
`22:21.52`	`marine63`	`what?`
`22:22.07`	`Tinman`	`I might need to look at one of the campaign maps, I think they did something similar to that effect there`
`22:22.14`	`Mozared`	`So what's the problem Marine?`
`22:22.23`	`marine63`	`ty for asking ^_^`
`22:22.25`	`Vophsix`	`tinman use one unit as a flyer while the rest are ground?`
`22:22.38`	`marine63`	`So yeah Top down cameras`
`22:22.53`	`marine63`	`i got it so it looks top down and to lock zoom levels`
`22:22.58`	`Mozared`	`points at Manquiche`
`22:23.03`	`Mozared`	`That man there will answer your questions`
`22:23.07`	`Manquiche`	`haha`
`22:23.07`	`marine63`	`:o`
`22:23.09`	`Mozared`	`he's been playing with those for the past 2 days`
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`22:23.16`	`marine63`	`really`
`22:23.16`	`Manquiche`	`indeed`
`22:23.18`	`Manquiche`	`whats up?`
`22:23.18`	`marine63`	`you don't say`
`22:23.30`	`Tinman`	`I am also using a top down camera!`
`22:23.34`	`marine63`	`how to center the camera on the unit and have it move with it`
`22:23.50`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`22:23.52`	`Tinman`	`Tough my camera never moves`
`22:23.55`	`Manquiche`	`i figured it out only last night :0`
`22:23.59`	`Manquiche`	`you're in luck`
`22:24.05`	`marine63`	`so the player cant look at the map with out exploring`
`22:24.17`	`marine63`	`with the unit ^_^`
`22:24.20`	`Manquiche`	`so you want the camera permanantly stuck to a unit?`
`22:24.29`	`marine63`	`they have to work to see how crappy my map is first muhahha ^_^`
`22:24.39`	`marine63`	`yes`
`22:24.43`	`Manquiche`	`ok`
`22:24.50`	`Manquiche`	`its really easy to do on one condition`
`22:24.55`	`marine63`	`:o`
`22:25.07`	`marine63`	`hahah great I don;t know how to do conditions`
`22:25.10`	`Manquiche`	`if you need the player to be able to zoom the cam, or pan it, or affect it in any way, then i cant help :p`
`22:25.28`	`Manquiche`	`cos ive not figured out how to allow select camera actions`
`22:25.29`	`Manquiche`	`but`
`22:25.37`	`Manquiche`	`if you dont want the player to be able to move the cam AT ALL`
`22:25.39`	`Manquiche`	`easy peasy`
`22:25.47`	`marine63`	`mmk`
`22:25.59`	`Manquiche`	`ok`
`22:26.07`	`Manquiche`	`so you've got the camera with the perspective you want?`
`22:26.14`	`marine63`	`yeah`
`22:26.22`	`Manquiche`	`is it a created cam or just the map default?`
`22:26.28`	`marine63`	`default`
`22:26.35`	`Manquiche`	`ok go to terrain editor`
`22:26.43`	`Manquiche`	`layer > cameras`
`22:26.47`	`marine63`	`</3`
`22:26.49`	`Syniq`	`goes for foodage`
`22:26.51`	`Manquiche`	`position your cam the way you want`
`22:27.00`	`Manquiche`	`and click 'create camera`
`22:27.22`	`Manquiche`	`you should have a cam on the left`
`22:27.27`	`Manquiche`	`named Camera 001 or something`
`22:27.29`	`marine63`	`right...`
`22:27.36`	`Manquiche`	`rename it to whatever you want`
`22:27.41`	`Manquiche`	`i named mine 'playerCam'`
`22:27.42`	`marine63`	`done`
`22:27.45`	`Manquiche`	`ok`
`22:27.48`	`Manquiche`	`now, trigger editor`
`22:27.59`	`marine63`	`k`
`22:28.10`	`Manquiche`	`i have a trigger to set the camera on map init`
`22:28.47`	`Manquiche`	`http://pastebin.com/PmxgK18S`
`22:29.24`	`Manquiche`	`replace marine with your unit`
`22:29.57`	`Manquiche`	`also, the first action is to make the cam aim at the middle of the marine, rather than at his feet`
`22:30.02`	`Manquiche`	`so the unit is more centerec`
`22:30.08`	`Manquiche`	`centred*`
`22:30.11`	`Manquiche`	`on the screen`
`22:30.50`	`Manquiche`	`all good so far?`
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`22:31.46`	`Manquiche`	`mozared\|sc2 how do you change your nick again?`
`22:32.03`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:32.08`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`or well`
`22:32.12`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:32.23`	`MillsySC`	`sorted`
`22:32.24`	`MillsySC`	`ty`
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`22:32.39`	`MillsySC`	`marine63, all good so far?`
`22:32.51`	`marine63`	`T_T`
`22:33.01`	`marine63`	`I hate this software`
`22:33.03`	`MillsySC`	`lol`
`22:33.17`	`MillsySC`	`alright lets go through it step by step`
`22:33.18`	`MillsySC`	`shall we?`
`22:33.29`	`marine63`	`no Give minerals to trigger`
`22:33.36`	`MillsySC`	`?`
`22:33.40`	`marine63`	`got to go to modify player properties`
`22:33.42`	`marine63`	`fuuuuuuuuuuu`
`22:33.48`	`Vulfe`	`aha!`
`22:33.51`	`Vulfe`	`It works!`
`22:33.52`	`Vulfe`	`Yay`
`22:33.58`	`Vulfe`	`Should be in a more complete state by tonight`
`22:34.00`	`Vulfe`	`(The physics thing)`
`22:34.12`	`MillsySC`	`gratz`
`22:34.25`	`MillsySC`	`marine63, you still need this cam help?`
`22:34.33`	`marine63`	`idk`
`22:34.41`	`marine63`	`not right now at least :l`
`22:34.48`	`MillsySC`	`k`
`22:34.54`	`MillsySC`	`well gimme a shout when you do`
`22:35.08`	`Trunk`	`anyone knows sth about how to make equipping items have requirements?`
`22:35.13`	`Trunk`	`eg the heroes level?`
`22:35.23`	`MillsySC`	`variables and if statements?`
`22:35.32`	`Trunk`	`yes but`
`22:35.43`	`Trunk`	`how to know if the player has the item in the equipment menue`
`22:35.47`	`Trunk`	`or just in his bag`
`22:36.20`	`marine63`	`also doesnt sometimes doesnt make changes right away...`
`22:36.25`	`marine63`	`have to restart editor`
`22:36.27`	`marine63`	`</3`
`22:36.28`	`MillsySC`	`give items in the back a unique 'bag ID' and equppied items a unique 'equipped ID'?`
`22:36.34`	`MillsySC`	`bag*`
`22:36.36`	`MillsySC`	`not back`
`22:36.38`	`MillsySC`	`lol`
`22:36.41`	`Trunk`	`but how?`
`22:36.49`	`Trunk`	`how to do that?`
`22:37.02`	`MillsySC`	`i wouldnt know lol`
`22:37.07`	`MillsySC`	`never used the invertory system`
`22:37.10`	`MillsySC`	`inventory*`
`22:37.16`	`Trunk`	`hm alright, thanks anyway`
`22:37.33`	`MillsySC`	`sorry`
`22:37.40`	`Trunk`	`np`
`22:37.40`	`marine63`	`does anyone happen to know how to make a text box in game?`
`22:37.47`	`Trunk`	`dialog?`
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`22:38.22`	`marine63`	`Dialog- edit box doesn't work`
`22:38.23`	`Blacksoldier`	`is it possible to rename the normal ressources?`
`22:38.25`	`nitroball`	`wassup?`
`22:38.40`	`marine63`	`RodofNod? I think gave me this wall of text T_T`
`22:38.42`	`Trunk`	`yes, via the text editor`
`22:38.48`	`Trunk`	`the big "A"`
`22:39.04`	`Trunk`	`look for every minerals entry`
`22:39.06`	`Trunk`	`and rename it`
`22:39.10`	`marine63`	`pffft`
`22:39.27`	`marine63`	`lots of work T_T`
`22:39.38`	`marine63`	`is there a gold icon on this site for like rpgs?`
`22:40.07`	`Trunk`	`thats the problem`
`22:40.17`	`Trunk`	`no one is sure how to change the icon`
`22:40.26`	`Trunk`	`i would be interested in a solution too..`
`22:41.19`	`marine63`	`really?`
`22:42.07`	`MillsySC`	`probably less work to hide the resources frame of the UI and create your own UI frame for gold etc`
`22:43.25`	`marine63`	`....`
`22:43.30`	`marine63`	`Cameras don't like me`
`22:43.37`	`marine63`	`The editor don't like me`
`22:43.42`	`marine63`	`Blizzard don't like me :l`
`22:44.03`	`Vulfe`	`I like you`
`22:44.07`	`Vulfe`	`not really`
`22:44.07`	`Vulfe`	`buahaha`
`22:44.16`	`marine63`	`T_T`
`22:44.19`	`MillsySC`	`marine63 if you're still having camera problems i can help you`
`22:44.26`	`marine63`	`mmmk`
`22:44.48`	`marine63`	`what Manquiche told me to do did't work`
`22:44.53`	`marine63`	`http://pastebin.com/PmxgK18S`
`22:44.55`	`MillsySC`	`i am manquiche :)`
`22:44.58`	`nitroball`	`yah, I did: http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8587/ohshitv.jpg`
`22:44.59`	`MillsySC`	`and i wasnt finished`
`22:45.00`	`marine63`	`omg`
`22:45.08`	`marine63`	`y change names`
`22:45.11`	`marine63`	`its confusing`
`22:45.16`	`MillsySC`	`cos this is my proper name`
`22:45.23`	`marine63`	`Its a trap :l`
`22:45.25`	`MillsySC`	`lol`
`22:45.28`	`MillsySC`	`anyway`
`22:45.37`	`MillsySC`	`so you've got your camera set up in the terrain editor yeah?`
`22:45.38`	`nitroball`	`imported a Supreme Commander unit into SC2`
`22:45.43`	`marine63`	`yes`
`22:45.47`	`MillsySC`	`ok`
`22:45.49`	`MillsySC`	`trigger editor`
`22:45.56`	`MillsySC`	`make a new folder on the right panel`
`22:46.04`	`marine63`	`.... SupCom no want :l`
`22:46.06`	`MillsySC`	`call it 'Set up player cam' or something`
`22:46.34`	`marine63`	`right panel?`
`22:46.36`	`MillsySC`	`left`
`22:46.38`	`MillsySC`	`lol`
`22:46.40`	`MillsySC`	`im tireed`
`22:46.41`	`MillsySC`	`xD`
`22:46.53`	`MillsySC`	`what is the unit you are fixing the camera to?`
`22:47.22`	`marine63`	`Dark Templar aka GenericHero`
`22:47.33`	`MillsySC`	`ok`
`22:47.40`	`MillsySC`	`make a new trigger`
`22:47.43`	`MillsySC`	`in the folder`
`22:47.51`	`MillsySC`	`set_playerCam or something`
`22:48.07`	`MillsySC`	`make a new event, map initialization`
`22:48.24`	`MillsySC`	`so far so good?`
`22:48.59`	`marine63`	`yea`
`22:49.12`	`MillsySC`	`ok`
`22:49.14`	`MillsySC`	`new action`
`22:49.29`	`MillsySC`	`camera`
`22:49.31`	`MillsySC`	`on the left`
`22:49.40`	`MillsySC`	`apply camera object`
`22:49.43`	`MillsySC`	`on the right`
`22:49.55`	`MillsySC`	`change Default Game Camera`
`22:49.56`	`marine63`	`ok`
`22:50.00`	`MillsySC`	`to your playerCam`
`22:50.14`	`MillsySC`	`should be in Value`
`22:50.24`	`marine63`	`yeah`
`22:50.27`	`MillsySC`	`hit OK`
`22:50.34`	`marine63`	`got that`
`22:50.36`	`MillsySC`	`ok`
`22:50.42`	`MillsySC`	`over 0 seconds`
`22:50.50`	`MillsySC`	`100% velocity`
`22:50.56`	`MillsySC`	`0% decelleration`
`22:51.02`	`MillsySC`	`include target`
`22:51.07`	`MillsySC`	`k?`
`22:51.46`	`marine63`	`ok`
`22:52.01`	`MillsySC`	`what that action does is , when the map starts, sets the camera to the prespective of your playercam`
`22:52.04`	`marine63`	`Damn it`
`22:52.11`	`MillsySC`	`?`
`22:52.11`	`marine63`	`i got no more sweet tea T_T`
`22:52.14`	`MillsySC`	`lol`
`22:52.26`	`MillsySC`	`ready to continue?`
`22:52.31`	`marine63`	`yea`
`22:52.33`	`MillsySC`	`ok`
`22:52.35`	`MillsySC`	`new action`
`22:52.53`	`marine63`	`mmk`
`22:52.54`	`MillsySC`	`camera > follow unit group`
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`22:53.26`	`MillsySC`	`follow for player 1 (your unit, DT or whatever)`
`22:53.30`	`MillsySC`	`clear current target`
`22:54.04`	`MillsySC`	`so`
`22:54.11`	`MillsySC`	`click 'last created unit;'`
`22:54.25`	`MillsySC`	`and do 'convert unit to unit group'`
`22:54.40`	`MillsySC`	`then 'triggering unit' > value > dark templar`
`22:54.53`	`MillsySC`	`let me know when you've done that`
`22:54.54`	`MillsySC`	`brb`
`22:54.55`	`marine63`	`okay`
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`22:56.07`	`marine63`	`Don't tease me bro </3`
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`22:57.07`	`marine63`	`âº`
`22:58.18`	`MillsySC`	`ok back`
`22:58.20`	`MillsySC`	`all good?`
`22:59.05`	`MillsySC`	`marine63, got that finished?`
`22:59.11`	`marine63`	`yeah`
`22:59.15`	`marine63`	`â¥`
`22:59.16`	`MillsySC`	`k`
`22:59.19`	`MillsySC`	`not there yet lol`
`22:59.22`	`MillsySC`	`next action`
`22:59.42`	`MillsySC`	`camera > lock camera input`
`22:59.47`	`MillsySC`	`this stops the player from moving the cam`
`23:00.24`	`ReckeD`	`How do you get an actor to play for a set duration?`
`23:00.27`	`marine63`	`hawt`
`23:01.09`	`marine63`	`oh look at that`
`23:01.11`	`marine63`	`it works`
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`23:01.50`	`Xaax`	`How do you apply a new Water State to water that you have placed on a map?`
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`23:02.12`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MillsySC (~chatzilla@cpc2-uddi10-0-0-cust556.uddi.cable.virginmedia.com)`
`23:02.18`	`MillsySC`	`hmm`
`23:02.20`	`MillsySC`	`disconnected`
`23:02.24`	`MillsySC`	`marine63, you there?`
`23:02.26`	`Blacksoldier`	`this text editor seems very rude to me.. hard to use... always jumps to the new text even when i want to edit one to the next teyxt... have to scroll again and again`
`23:02.27`	`marine63`	`Add Special Thanks MillsySC`
`23:02.30`	`marine63`	`;)`
`23:02.39`	`marine63`	`yeah its working now`
`23:02.43`	`MillsySC`	`ok :)`
`23:02.47`	`marine63`	`sweet`
`23:02.48`	`MillsySC`	`there are 2 extra things to do`
`23:02.49`	`marine63`	`or Manquiche?`
`23:02.52`	`marine63`	`okay`
`23:02.56`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`Xaax: click on water in the terrain editor and then edit water, right click to add a new state`
`23:03.05`	`MillsySC`	`1 is you'll notice the camera is kind of falling behind`
`23:03.08`	`MillsySC`	`when it follows the unit`
`23:03.10`	`Xaax`	`I have that.`
`23:03.29`	`marine63`	`does it?`
`23:03.34`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`whats the prob?`
`23:03.36`	`Xaax`	`But every time I select the new state that I have added it just switches to default automatically when I press okay.`
`23:03.37`	`MillsySC`	`you might notice if you run a fast unit around`
`23:03.41`	`MillsySC`	`the camera 'chases' it`
`23:03.44`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`ah`
`23:03.47`	`MillsySC`	`until it stops`
`23:03.47`	`marine63`	`hmm`
`23:03.48`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`yea it starts as default`
`23:03.50`	`marine63`	`does seem so`
`23:03.55`	`MillsySC`	`not a problem :)`
`23:03.57`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`you can switch it with Set Water State action in triggers`
`23:03.59`	`marine63`	`woot`
`23:04.01`	`MillsySC`	`we can change the speed the cam follows`
`23:04.10`	`MillsySC`	`to make it stay with the unit exactly`
`23:04.12`	`marine63`	`they have that o-o`
`23:04.15`	`Xaax`	`That's the only way to make it use the new water state?`
`23:04.24`	`MillsySC`	`problem 2 is that clicking the unit portrait will break the follow`
`23:04.26`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`thats how i use it`
`23:04.27`	`MillsySC`	`and get the cam stuck`
`23:04.32`	`MillsySC`	`try it :)`
`23:04.41`	`marine63`	`i removed UI :o`
`23:04.46`	`MillsySC`	`lol`
`23:04.49`	`Xaax`	`Blizzard...wtf...`
`23:04.54`	`MillsySC`	`well if you have no unit portrait, its not a problem for you :P`
`23:05.02`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`why is that a problem Xaax ?`
`23:05.06`	`MillsySC`	`but if you ever get the unit portrait back there is a workaround`
`23:05.08`	`marine63`	`though Id still like to know if you have the time ^_^`
`23:05.13`	`MillsySC`	`np`
`23:05.28`	`MillsySC`	`someone suggested i cover the portrait`
`23:05.30`	`marine63`	`â¥â¥â¥ three Zelda hearts for you :P`
`23:05.33`	`ReckeD`	`How do i tell my actor to play for 3 seconds?`
`23:05.34`	`MillsySC`	`so i made a dialog box with a button`
`23:05.37`	`MillsySC`	`covering the portrait`
`23:05.41`	`Xaax`	`Because I want to see what is going on with the water that I have placed in different locations without having to go in to the water states to switch to the ones I have made.`
`23:05.42`	`MillsySC`	`made it invisible`
`23:05.44`	`marine63`	`ghetto but i like it`
`23:05.55`	`MillsySC`	`and set the button to 'reset' the cam`
`23:05.58`	`MillsySC`	`to follow the unit`
`23:06.05`	`MillsySC`	`so clicking the 'portrait' doesnt do anything`
`23:06.16`	`MillsySC`	`just makes a 'button click' noise which i havent found out how to remove`
`23:06.19`	`MillsySC`	`but not a big deal really`
`23:06.20`	`MillsySC`	`:P`
`23:06.23`	`Xaax`	`Or does the trigger automatically update the water states so that you can see them before you launch the map?`
`23:06.24`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`Millsy, are you Manquiche?`
`23:06.28`	`MillsySC`	`yeah lol`
`23:06.33`	`marine63`	`ninja'ed`
`23:06.36`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`Fair enough`
`23:06.37`	`SweetZombieJesus`	`nah only ingame`
`23:06.42`	`Xaax`	`Yeah...`
`23:06.43`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`I liked Manquiche better though`
`23:06.47`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`It's like... a manly quiche`
`23:06.47`	`MillsySC`	`lol`
`23:06.52`	`MillsySC`	`you know what its from?`
`23:06.56`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`I've no clue`
`23:06.57`	`marine63`	`MillySC master of disguise`
`23:07.01`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`I just kept reading it as 'manly quiche'`
`23:07.05`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`as in a quiche that's male`
`23:07.08`	`MillsySC`	`http://www.rathergood.com/man_quiche`
`23:07.14`	`marine63`	`nice`
`23:07.20`	`MillsySC`	`i set that as my name when i first tried using IRC`
`23:07.26`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`wow, I was right too =P`
`23:07.31`	`MillsySC`	`just chose something random that came to mind xD`
`23:07.33`	`marine63`	`scarred for life`
`23:07.35`	`marine63`	`thanks for that`
`23:07.49`	`Blacksoldier`	`okay i edited all entries just called "Minerals" - i think i will edit the rest as soon as i see a necessartÃty for it.... but how to change the picture of the minerals?`
`23:07.51`	`MillsySC`	`but i figure since im probably gonna be on here regularly i should use my actual online moniker`
`23:08.00`	`MillsySC`	`which is Millsy, since my surname is Mills :P`
`23:08.12`	`MillsySC`	`ok, marine63, lets speed up the cam so it doesnt chase the unit`
`23:08.15`	`MillsySC`	`:D`
`23:08.16`	`marine63`	`mmk`
`23:08.21`	`marine63`	`^_____^`
`23:08.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster picklefish (~Shane@cpe-72-179-54-173.austin.res.rr.com)`
`23:08.25`	`MillsySC`	`data editor`
`23:08.30`	`marine63`	`gasp picklefish`
`23:08.33`	`MillsySC`	`we need to chnage numbers`
`23:08.36`	`MillsySC`	`change*`
`23:08.41`	`picklefish`	`?`
`23:08.51`	`marine63`	`<--- fan`
`23:09.13`	`picklefish`	`ah, too bad I've been too busy to do anything cool in a long time :(`
`23:09.24`	`marine63`	`</3`
`23:09.31`	`picklefish`	`such is life`
`23:09.41`	`MillsySC`	`ok mozared\|sc2 ill stay manquiche just for you if you like :P`
`23:09.44`	`marine63`	`sc2 is life`
`23:09.48`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`Awsome =P`
`23:09.48`	`MillsySC`	`right`
`23:09.50`	`MillsySC`	`marine`
`23:09.57`	`Blacksoldier`	`trunk ? do u know how to chage the mineral picture maybe?`
`23:10.01`	`Manquiche`	`data editor bro`
`23:10.05`	`marine63`	`okay`
`23:10.06`	`Manquiche`	`data type > camera`
`23:10.13`	`marine63`	`right`
`23:10.18`	`Manquiche`	`default camera`
`23:10.25`	`marine63`	`k`
`23:10.29`	`Manquiche`	`follow scroll limit = 100`
`23:10.43`	`marine63`	`gotcha`
`23:10.48`	`Manquiche`	`scroll acceleration period = 0`
`23:10.52`	`Manquiche`	`same for deceleration`
`23:11.24`	`marine63`	`okay`
`23:11.28`	`Manquiche`	`once thats done, open Target Smooth +`
`23:11.40`	`Manquiche`	`i use these values`
`23:11.50`	`Manquiche`	`Displace... = 0.001`
`23:12.00`	`ReckeD`	`blacksoldier`
`23:12.01`	`Manquiche`	`Smooth Max and Min = 0.05`
`23:12.02`	`ReckeD`	`its not in data editor`
`23:12.10`	`ReckeD`	`need to overwrite values using the import manager`
`23:12.15`	`ReckeD`	`i cant get it working tho`
`23:12.20`	`Manquiche`	`Velocity = 50000.0 but anything over 100 would probably be fine`
`23:12.30`	`Manquiche`	`hit Ok, test your map`
`23:12.38`	`Manquiche`	`see if the camera is nice and snappy to unit movement`
`23:12.47`	`Manquiche`	`if you find it is jittery, change the values`
`23:12.49`	`marine63`	`i came`
`23:13.02`	`Manquiche`	`all good then?`
`23:13.07`	`marine63`	`yes`
`23:13.14`	`Manquiche`	`nice`
`23:13.16`	`Manquiche`	`:P`
`23:13.28`	`marine63`	`Is it okay if I put your name on my map`
`23:13.32`	`marine63`	`special thanks ;)`
`23:13.37`	`Manquiche`	`fine by me :P`
`23:13.51`	`Manquiche`	`whats your map about?`
`23:13.58`	`marine63`	`but my map is crappy so Idk if you really want your name on my map`
`23:13.59`	`marine63`	`rpg`
`23:14.06`	`marine63`	`Most generic rpg ever`
`23:14.09`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`23:14.10`	`Manquiche`	`awesome`
`23:14.14`	`Manquiche`	`im trying to do an RPG`
`23:14.17`	`Manquiche`	`trying and failing so far`
`23:14.19`	`marine63`	`The Intro is`
`23:14.37`	`marine63`	`commencing a long pointless wall of text`
`23:14.43`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`23:14.48`	`marine63`	`then a wall of text of gibberish`
`23:15.57`	`marine63`	`Is this in the tutorials`
`23:15.58`	`marine63`	`?`
`23:16.01`	`marine63`	`it should be`
`23:16.03`	`marine63`	`>.<`
`23:16.19`	`marine63`	`because I didn't see it`
`23:16.30`	`Manquiche`	`what the camera thing?`
`23:16.49`	`marine63`	`yeah`
`23:17.06`	`Manquiche`	`well OneTwoSC has a bit on cameras in one of his youtube tuts`
`23:17.21`	`Manquiche`	`but it didnt include anything on solving the 'chasing cam'`
`23:17.32`	`Manquiche`	`and its solution for the portrait thing is to make a 'reset' button`
`23:17.35`	`Blacksoldier`	`recked as soon as u have a solution i would be interested;-)`
`23:17.46`	`Manquiche`	`my reset button is just an invisible button over the portrait :P`
`23:18.00`	`Manquiche`	`if there isnt a tut on sc2mapster ill throw one up`
`23:18.13`	`marine63`	`you should`
`23:18.26`	`Manquiche`	`mozared\|sc2 who was it who suggested the dialog box again?`
`23:18.27`	`Triceron`	`RPGs are awesome`
`23:18.33`	`Manquiche`	`his name began with an S`
`23:18.41`	`Triceron`	`but so underappreciated`
`23:18.48`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`I HATE YOU PEOPLE`
`23:18.51`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`23:18.52`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`I'm tabbed out of SC2 for 10 minutes`
`23:18.52`	`marine63`	`Turn-based rpg is full of win`
`23:18.55`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`the SECOND I tab back in`
`23:18.57`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`PEEP`
`23:18.58`	`Manquiche`	`rofl`
`23:19.08`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`Anyway, what was it?`
`23:19.20`	`marine63`	`hmm?`
`23:19.21`	`Manquiche`	`who was it who suggested the dialog box again when i had my portrait problem?`
`23:19.26`	`Manquiche`	`began with an S`
`23:19.29`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`Hmmm, yeah, who was it?`
`23:19.31`	`Manquiche`	`i should credit him in any tut i post`
`23:19.38`	`Manquiche`	`and you ofc`
`23:19.40`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`23:19.55`	`marine63`	`you should start on it right now >.>`
`23:19.58`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`Hmm`
`23:20.02`	`Manquiche`	`SycoPrime?`
`23:20.04`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`I honestly don't have a clue anymore`
`23:20.09`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`I'm thinking it might've been SycoPrime yeah`
`23:20.12`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`But I can't say for certain`
`23:20.18`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`You could just write it in the tutorial`
`23:20.24`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`that you forgot the name of the person who suggested it`
`23:20.32`	`LordAbyss`	`~8ball should i work on my cinematic?`
`23:20.32`	`purl`	`No.`
`23:20.33`	`Manquiche`	`yeah will do`
`23:20.38`	`marine63`	`So I hear the new WASD data functions is full of win`
`23:20.39`	`Manquiche`	`ill ask him next time hes here`
`23:21.22`	`Manquiche`	`hmm`
`23:21.24`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`~8ball should I do the final terraining touches on my map now?`
`23:21.25`	`purl`	`Please ask again.`
`23:21.35`	`Manquiche`	`video tut which i can do tomorrow or screenshot tut which i can do now`
`23:21.41`	`Manquiche`	`decisions decisions`
`23:21.49`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`the damn 8ball's just ignoring me`
`23:21.53`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`well fine then`
`23:21.54`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`be like that`
`23:21.55`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`23:21.58`	`marine63`	`Screenshots faster?`
`23:21.58`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`I'll play some more SC before I do it`
`23:22.24`	`Manquiche`	`screenshots i can do now because its after 12 so i cant be recording voice :P`
`23:22.25`	`marine63`	`I think its faster for both the one making it and the one using it :l`
`23:22.27`	`LordAbyss`	`so mozared you like my terraining skillz?`
`23:22.41`	`marine63`	`If you sound like OneTwo don't`
`23:22.41`	`Manquiche`	`but if i do a video tut you guys get to hear my manly scottishness`
`23:22.43`	`marine63`	`>.>`
`23:22.57`	`marine63`	`thick accents?`
`23:22.58`	`marine63`	`no want`
`23:23.01`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`23:23.12`	`Manquiche`	`you wont understand what im saying`
`23:23.19`	`Manquiche`	`but you'll get wet anyway`
`23:23.21`	`Manquiche`	`:D`
`23:23.34`	`Manquiche`	`i can always put on an american accent`
`23:23.35`	`marine63`	`i have trouble watching dr who. So ill probably have trouble understanding what you're saying :l`
`23:23.41`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`23:23.46`	`Manquiche`	`you from 'merca?`
`23:23.51`	`marine63`	`yah`
`23:23.55`	`Manquiche`	`unlucky :(`
`23:23.57`	`Manquiche`	`xD`
`23:23.59`	`marine63`	`what?`
`23:24.22`	`marine63`	`I also have trouble with southern and urban accents :l`
`23:25.00`	`Manquiche`	`alright, screenshots it is`
`23:25.55`	`marine63`	`I think you only need like 2 :l`
`23:26.27`	`marine63`	`American accent?`
`23:26.42`	`Manquiche`	`yeah :)`
`23:26.45`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MaceMan (~MaceMan@cpe-76-184-214-92.tx.res.rr.com)`
`23:26.49`	`Manquiche`	`its easy`
`23:28.08`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Eiviyn (586f9717@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.111.151.23)`
`23:28.39`	`Eiviyn`	`dodges whatever emote Otixa had planned`
`23:28.47`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`23:29.37`	`marine63`	`inside joke?`
`23:30.01`	`Manquiche`	`Otixa, from what ive seen, abuses emote like theres no tomorrow`
`23:30.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster [newbie] (~kvirc@tx-71-52-73-170.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)`
`23:30.35`	`Komodo1138`	`Its ok Eiviyn, i have not seen Otixa. You are safe for now`
`23:30.49`	`Eiviyn`	`Good, good`
`23:30.58`	`Eiviyn`	`3 days to contest, oh noes`
`23:31.12`	`Komodo1138`	`have you done anymore voice tests ?`
`23:31.42`	`Otixa`	`what`
`23:32.00`	`Komodo1138`	`everyone run Otixa is here.`
`23:32.02`	`Manquiche`	`wow`
`23:32.03`	`Otixa`	`I'm working on the protoss shrine model >:\|`
`23:32.08`	`Manquiche`	`43 tabs open of sc2mapster`
`23:32.42`	`Otixa`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/SC2/Shrine2.jpg`
`23:32.44`	`Otixa`	`Â¬_Â¬`
`23:32.54`	`Nash\|327`	`Otixa must be eliminated`
`23:33.00`	`Otixa`	`It's sloooow`
`23:33.01`	`Trunk`	`is anyone known with item containers?`
`23:33.03`	`Manquiche`	`oooo`
`23:33.06`	`Manquiche`	`3ds max 2010`
`23:33.09`	`Manquiche`	`lad-de-dah`
`23:33.11`	`Manquiche`	`arent we loaded?`
`23:33.13`	`Manquiche`	`:P`
`23:33.31`	`Otixa`	`3ds > *`
`23:33.32`	`Otixa`	`k`
`23:33.39`	`Manquiche`	`* being?`
`23:33.39`	`Nash\|327`	`loaded as in downloaded D_D`
`23:33.44`	`Otixa`	`everything`
`23:33.49`	`Manquiche`	`ah`
`23:33.51`	`Manquiche`	`ofc`
`23:33.53`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`23:34.00`	`Manquiche`	`also, do you do 3d modelling in your profession or anything?`
`23:34.03`	`Otixa`	`Actually, mine's licensed :P`
`23:34.12`	`Otixa`	`They give 'em out free at uni`
`23:34.17`	`Manquiche`	`oh you lucky sod`
`23:34.18`	`Nash\|327`	`That makes no sense, as it would mean 3ds > 3ds`
`23:34.25`	`Nash\|327`	`DOES NOT COMPUTE`
`23:34.26`	`Otixa`	`Manquiche, ye and I'm studying computer games design & programming`
`23:34.40`	`Manquiche`	`nice :)`
`23:34.45`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`23:34.51`	`Manquiche`	`i should really go back to uni`
`23:35.02`	`Otixa`	`Also`
`23:35.10`	`Otixa`	`jabs Eiviyn`
`23:35.13`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`23:35.16`	`Otixa`	`Almost forgot about you ;p`
`23:35.16`	`Komodo1138`	`lol`
`23:35.20`	`Nash\|327`	`game programming was boring`
`23:35.23`	`Eiviyn`	`Pre-emptively dodged`
`23:35.30`	`Otixa`	`jabs Eiviyn anyway`
`23:35.32`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`23:35.41`	`Nash\|327`	`I switched to interaction design`
`23:35.50`	`Otixa`	`Soliek`
`23:35.58`	`Otixa`	`Lots of brits here now`
`23:36.03`	`marine63`	`Im Studying to be an accountant >.>`
`23:36.06`	`Otixa`	`hides the tea`
`23:36.13`	`Komodo1138`	`lol`
`23:36.16`	`Manquiche`	`tea? rofl`
`23:36.19`	`Manquiche`	`im scottish`
`23:36.23`	`Manquiche`	`we drink the blood of pigs`
`23:36.30`	`Triceron`	`he don't knock on tea!`
`23:36.30`	`marine63`	`hawt`
`23:36.43`	`marine63`	`coffee â¥`
`23:36.45`	`Otixa`	`I drink anything that's potentially toxic :D`
`23:36.59`	`Otixa`	`Mostly coke + redbull + coffee`
`23:36.59`	`Nash\|327`	`raw sewage`
`23:37.00`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DeSync (Teddy@adsl-75-26-188-204.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net)`
`23:37.13`	`Xaragoth`	`hands otixa some cleaning fluids.`
`23:37.14`	`Otixa`	`Alone they are potent`
`23:37.14`	`Xaragoth`	`Here`
`23:37.18`	`Komodo1138`	`redbull sucks Monster all the way`
`23:37.20`	`Blacksoldier`	`mozared - when u use a irc client - they mostly have log datas where can have a look`
`23:37.20`	`Manquiche`	`i drink milk`
`23:37.22`	`Manquiche`	`milk is good`
`23:37.23`	`Otixa`	`But together they are BZZT`
`23:37.24`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`23:37.29`	`Otixa`	`stabs Xaragoth`
`23:37.44`	`Xaragoth`	`evades and puts a baneling in otixas stabby-way.`
`23:37.52`	`Xaragoth`	`eat green goo :>`
`23:37.55`	`Otixa`	`Xaragoth, see screenshat. That work for you? ;p`
`23:38.01`	`Xaragoth`	`yeah`
`23:38.01`	`Blacksoldier`	`oh not mozared - was manquiste who forgot the name ;-)`
`23:38.03`	`Otixa`	`kk`
`23:38.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ekcolnovkol\|afk (ekcolnovko@pool-173-68-36-136.nycmny.east.verizon.net)`
`23:38.13`	`Otixa`	`I was thinking of the circular part`
`23:38.14`	`Blacksoldier`	`manquiche***`
`23:38.19`	`Otixa`	`Where the relic is to be like an elevator`
`23:38.21`	`Manquiche`	`yarp?`
`23:38.23`	`Otixa`	`So you push the relic`
`23:38.28`	`Otixa`	`And it goes down to the caverns`
`23:38.30`	`Otixa`	`...of time`
`23:38.31`	`Otixa`	`:D`
`23:38.54`	`Manquiche`	`blacksoldier, whats up?`
`23:39.01`	`Blacksoldier`	`i said when u use a irc client - they mostly have log files (cuz u forgot the name)`
`23:39.02`	`Otixa`	`Need to refine the edges but cba ;/`
`23:39.08`	`Otixa`	`picks on Eiviyn instead`
`23:39.15`	`Manquiche`	`oh`
`23:39.17`	`Manquiche`	`OH`
`23:39.18`	`Manquiche`	`thanks`
`23:39.22`	`Manquiche`	`how does one check?`
`23:39.33`	`Blacksoldier`	`dont know ur client and i dont use a client`
`23:39.37`	`Manquiche`	`ah lol`
`23:39.38`	`Manquiche`	`yeah`
`23:39.40`	`Manquiche`	`good point`
`23:39.42`	`Otixa`	`see %LocalAppData%`
`23:39.44`	`Manquiche`	`chatzilla if anyone cares :)`
`23:39.44`	`Blacksoldier`	`try out some menues ,-)`
`23:39.46`	`Eiviyn`	`My map is done. All content, all bugs, everything. Bring on the contest and subsequent failure!`
`23:39.58`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, can we play now? >:\|`
`23:40.04`	`Blacksoldier`	`maybe u gonna find it randomly`
`23:40.12`	`Eiviyn`	`Play what`
`23:40.16`	`Otixa`	`The map >:[`
`23:40.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RedWraith (~daviddavi@ip98-164-199-113.oc.oc.cox.net)`
`23:40.25`	`Manquiche`	`hmm`
`23:40.28`	`Manquiche`	`logging option`
`23:40.29`	`RedWraith`	`hmm`
`23:40.32`	`RedWraith`	`logging option`
`23:40.33`	`Manquiche`	`id deselected`
`23:40.34`	`Manquiche`	`oh well`
`23:40.38`	`Blacksoldier`	`or check the files in the program folder`
`23:40.47`	`Otixa`	`nags Eiviyn`
`23:40.55`	`Eiviyn`	`Play... a map... on b.net? B.net isn't for playing maps, b.net is for hiding good maps at the bottom of the list and nexus wars`
`23:40.57`	`Syniq`	`Manquiche: Yeah, doodads make all the difference. xD`
`23:41.06`	`Manquiche`	`:)`
`23:41.08`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, YOUR map ;/`
`23:41.11`	`marine63`	`mmm love chicken`
`23:41.16`	`Syniq`	`Arches and statues make this map a lot more interesting.`
`23:41.16`	`Otixa`	`Play nao`
`23:41.23`	`Eiviyn`	`n`
`23:41.24`	`Syniq`	`Also, I have a ship that's crashed into an obelisk. :D`
`23:41.24`	`Otixa`	`nags more`
`23:41.25`	`Triceron`	`Otixa, you make your high res mdoels in max too?`
`23:41.33`	`Eiviyn`	`No publishing!`
`23:41.39`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, yeh. Max is kfine for hardsurface stuff`
`23:41.44`	`Eiviyn`	`I spent`
`23:41.45`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, make it private!`
`23:41.45`	`Eiviyn`	`Ages`
`23:41.46`	`Eiviyn`	`AGES`
`23:41.49`	`Triceron`	`ahh, okay`
`23:41.53`	`Eiviyn`	`On this, leaving trigger`
`23:42.12`	`Manquiche`	`syniq, nice`
`23:42.16`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, tho, if you see my edge flow, you'll have a seizure :D`
`23:42.17`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ousnius (4e2a2fbf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.42.47.191)`
`23:42.22`	`Eiviyn`	`http://a.imageshack.us/img706/527/leftgame.jpg - can you spot the mistake?`
`23:42.24`	`Triceron`	`XD`
`23:42.35`	`Manquiche`	`syniq, fill it to the brim with doodads :D doodads make everything better`
`23:42.40`	`Syniq`	`Heh`
`23:42.41`	`Otixa`	`I lol'd at the if statements`
`23:42.43`	`Syniq`	`Not too many, though`
`23:42.57`	`Eiviyn`	`Yeah I got sick of trying to find the error`
`23:43.02`	`Eiviyn`	`So I just loaded them all in`
`23:43.16`	`Otixa`	`pats Eiviyn`
`23:43.24`	`Otixa`	`Can we play NOW? >:\|`
`23:43.31`	`Otixa`	`I'm bored`
`23:43.31`	`Eiviyn`	`So I had to nag people to test this`
`23:43.31`	`marine63`	`yall wouldn't know how to do the WASD for Data editor`
`23:43.33`	`Eiviyn`	`And my testing was basically`
`23:43.34`	`Eiviyn`	`Join`
`23:43.38`	`Otixa`	`And I see polygons everywhere`
`23:43.38`	`Eiviyn`	`Then have them leave`
`23:43.41`	`Eiviyn`	`So very fun testing`
`23:43.49`	`Eiviyn`	`And it took like, 30min to realise`
`23:44.04`	`Eiviyn`	`That I was checking the player group "Active players" instead of my custom player group "Player Active"`
`23:44.07`	`Syniq`	`Wow... Unexpected muscles. O.o`
`23:44.23`	`Syniq`	`Sorry, that was random. :p`
`23:44.28`	`Otixa`	`So... No play? Â¬_Â¬`
`23:44.48`	`Eiviyn`	`Afraid not, nothing I need to test :((`
`23:44.51`	`Otixa`	`growls at Eiviyn`
`23:44.58`	`Otixa`	`I said play, not test ;/`
`23:45.10`	`Eiviyn`	`Maps are for testing, not fun!`
`23:45.13`	`Otixa`	`goes back to 3D S&M`
`23:45.15`	`Eiviyn`	`On a side note`
`23:45.28`	`Eiviyn`	`Have you seen the new dune game?`
`23:45.37`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`New dune game? What is this i dont even`
`23:45.39`	`marine63`	`dune?`
`23:45.44`	`Otixa`	`Eiviyn, do you like the general composition of your face? :D`
`23:45.49`	`Otixa`	`gets a hammer`
`23:45.59`	`Triceron`	`what is Dune?`
`23:46.04`	`marine63`	`spice trade?`
`23:46.05`	`Eiviyn`	`Those spice harvesters look so awesome`
`23:46.11`	`Otixa`	`actually`
`23:46.13`	`Otixa`	`Triceron`
`23:46.21`	`Otixa`	`I have a top sikkrit mishan for you`
`23:46.22`	`marine63`	`its a book and a film and video games`
`23:46.28`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`23:46.34`	`Triceron`	`MEESHAN KOMPREET!`
`23:46.38`	`Manquiche`	`alright i dont see any tutorials on sc2mapster on making a camera flawlessy stick to a unit`
`23:46.42`	`Otixa`	`No, not yet`
`23:46.46`	`Manquiche`	`so i shall make one :)`
`23:46.48`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/SC2/Shrine2.jpg`
`23:46.58`	`Triceron`	`ooh nice`
`23:46.59`	`Otixa`	`See those things on the side of the stairs?`
`23:47.01`	`Triceron`	`spiffyness`
`23:47.06`	`Eiviyn`	`Then you've not looked very far Manquiche`
`23:47.08`	`Triceron`	`yar`
`23:47.21`	`Otixa`	`I want you to sculpt me one`
`23:47.28`	`Otixa`	`But so it looks like it's a stone slab`
`23:47.29`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`23:47.38`	`marine63`	`Manquiche you da man b`
`23:47.42`	`Manquiche`	`eiviyn, i searched 'camera' in the tutorial section and saw only 1 that was close to what i wanted to post, and it had been deleted`
`23:47.43`	`Mozared\|SC2`	`Eiviyn, what's the new game called? Can't find anything about it`
`23:47.44`	`Triceron`	`what do you mean`
`23:47.46`	`Triceron`	`wait nm`
`23:47.48`	`Manquiche`	`granted i only checked the first page, but still`
`23:47.52`	`Triceron`	`tell me later, I gotta head out for a bit`
`23:47.52`	`Eiviyn`	`Check OneTwo's WoW camera tutorial, then adjust the camera properties in the data editor to suit how close you want it to stick`
`23:47.53`	`Triceron`	`bbl`
`23:47.54`	`Blacksoldier`	`just got a very good idea for a map (but no skill to do it ;-) ) : a labirinth players have to walk through with WASD`
`23:48.00`	`Otixa`	`Triceron, kk bai :<`
`23:48.05`	`Eiviyn`	`But basically`
`23:48.12`	`Eiviyn`	`Use "Follow unit group with camera"`
`23:48.18`	`Blacksoldier`	`with random spawning points`
`23:48.21`	`Eiviyn`	`"Oh but Eiviyn, that camera is laggy!"`
`23:48.26`	`Eiviyn`	`Open the data editor`
`23:48.31`	`Eiviyn`	`Go down to cameras`
`23:48.40`	`Manquiche`	`yeah i know this...`
`23:48.50`	`Otixa`	`smacks Eiviyn on the arse with a hammer`
`23:48.55`	`Otixa`	`HAMMER TIME`
`23:48.56`	`Eiviyn`	`If your map is a space installation, open that camera entry`
`23:48.57`	`Otixa`	`>:\|`
`23:49.11`	`Eiviyn`	`If it's yada yada just pick the right one and if you can't see any that relate to it then pick default`
`23:49.46`	`Eiviyn`	`Then just adjust the values in there so that the camera doesn't lag behind the units anymore`
`23:49.57`	`Manquiche`	`i know this eiviyn, but i dont see any tut on sc2mapster detailing those steps`
`23:50.15`	`Eiviyn`	`If you know it then what do you need a tutorial for`
`23:50.23`	`Manquiche`	`and onetwos, which is good, doesnt give what id consider a satisfactory solution to the portrait problem`
`23:50.26`	`Manquiche`	`which mine will`
`23:50.27`	`Eiviyn`	`There's definitely one in there because that's where I got that information from`
`23:51.06`	`Eiviyn`	`Actually I'm damn sure it was onetwo's hero tutorial`
`23:51.42`	`Manquiche`	`i searched 'camera follow'`
`23:51.50`	`Manquiche`	`and came up with a single tut on making a cam follow a unit`
`23:51.55`	`Manquiche`	`and the post has been -DELETED-`
`23:52.19`	`Manquiche`	`i know onetwo has tuts on yt`
`23:52.28`	`Manquiche`	`but, going by these search results, id say theres a gap`
`23:52.39`	`Manquiche`	`on sc2mapster`
`23:53.11`	`Eiviyn`	`To be honest I doubt many people even know how to make a camera follow a unit perfectly`
`23:53.16`	`Eiviyn`	`It's not really obvious`
`23:53.31`	`Eiviyn`	`So might explain why nobody bothered to make a tutorial`
`23:53.32`	`Syniq`	`Oh, is that how tehy do it?`
`23:53.56`	`Manquiche`	`i didnt until i combined info i gathered from various 'half-related' tuts i found on YT`
`23:54.16`	`Eiviyn`	`I spent hours in the trigger editor trying to find a solution before just giving up entirely, then by chance stumbled upon a youtube video where the camera was perfect, dled it and copied the camera entries`
`23:54.38`	`Manquiche`	`i searched sc2 and spent plenty of time trawling through threads of people asking how, and people giving half-answers`
`23:54.41`	`Manquiche`	`but no tuts :P`
`23:55.18`	`Eiviyn`	`Should make a tutorial on how to make a weapon use attachments instead of shooting from the floor`
`23:55.23`	`Manquiche`	`so those half-answers, combined with info from mozared and (i think) sycoprime and info from onetwoscs yt tutorials, i managed to make a perfectly working cam that CAN NOT BREAK :)`
`23:55.34`	`Eiviyn`	`Seems like half the questions on sc2mapster are "WHY IS MY UNIT SHOOTING FROM THE FLOOR"`
`23:55.46`	`Manquiche`	`i didnt find any answer to the portrait breaking follow problem`
`23:55.55`	`Manquiche`	`on sc2mapster or otherwise`
`23:56.04`	`Manquiche`	`but sycoprime gave me a good idea`
`23:56.08`	`Manquiche`	`and it works`
`23:56.09`	`SuraklinSC2`	`Units don't shoot from the floor!`
`23:56.10`	`Manquiche`	`so why not share it?`
`23:56.13`	`SuraklinSC2`	`That's all in people's heads. ;)`
`23:57.28`	`Manquiche`	`eiviyn im getting the impression that you are opposed to me making a tut on getting a perfectly working camera to follow a unit with no portrait problem`
`23:57.50`	`Eiviyn`	`What gave you that impression`
`23:58.10`	`RedWraith`	`is there any easy way to zoom in the minimap?`
`23:58.22`	`Eiviyn`	`Reduce play area`
`23:58.27`	`Eiviyn`	`Other than that, custom minimap`
`23:58.40`	`Manquiche`	`well`
`23:58.48`	`Manquiche`	`i searched and found none on sc2mapster`
`23:58.54`	`Manquiche`	`and you told me i hadnt looked very far...`
`23:59.03`	`Manquiche`	`and then went on a tirade about how many tuts are out there on it`
`23:59.04`	`Otixa`	`puts cyanide in Eiviyn's coffee`
`23:59.09`	`Otixa`	`whistles innocently`
`23:59.11`	`Otixa`	`:>`
`23:59.12`	`Manquiche`	`maybe i just misunderstood...`
`23:59.24`	`Eiviyn`	`I thought you wanted to know how to do it`
`23:59.30`	`Eiviyn`	`I didn't realise you already knew`
`23:59.36`	`Manquiche`	`no, i announced that i was going to post a tut on it`
`23:59.37`	`Manquiche`	`lol`
`23:59.44`	`Manquiche`	`since i couldnt find any`
`23:59.56`	`Eiviyn`	`Right, I missed that part, sorry`

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