| 00:00.11 | Vulfe | Oh really |
| 00:00.15 | Vulfe | What does that mean |
| 00:00.16 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 00:00.21 | Arthas- | :p |
| 00:00.57 | goomba_ | ok so |
| 00:01.04 | goomba_ | for my model actors event |
| 00:01.18 | goomba_ | i want it to create when an effect goes off |
| 00:01.23 | Arthas- | Motive looks good |
| 00:01.26 | goomba_ | what term do i use |
| 00:01.28 | Vulfe | goomba easyyyy |
| 00:01.31 | Motive | Alright thanks |
| 00:01.35 | goomba_ | at source? |
| 00:01.35 | Vulfe | What kind of effect |
| 00:01.42 | goomba_ | issue order |
| 00:01.48 | Vulfe | You might not even need a term |
| 00:01.51 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 00:01.56 | Arthas- | If you're determined, skip everything regarding memory management and casting at least. |
| 00:01.56 | Vulfe | what kind of order |
| 00:02.01 | Arthas- | that part makes me cry every time |
| 00:02.02 | goomba_ | attack |
| 00:02.04 | Motive | xD |
| 00:02.06 | rooj | ugh, why do most SC2 videos have terrible techno music playing in the background |
| 00:02.08 | Arthas- | dynamic allocation |
| 00:02.10 | goomba_ | effect.EnragingIssue |
| 00:02.11 | Arthas- | why dont we has it :( |
| 00:02.12 | goomba_ | create |
| 00:02.15 | goomba_ | let me try just that |
| 00:02.18 | Motive | makes me QQ, too |
| 00:02.18 | Arthas- | if we are still locked in userspace |
| 00:02.19 | Motive | :[ |
| 00:02.23 | Vulfe | that might work |
| 00:02.34 | Arthas- | who knows |
| 00:02.37 | Vulfe | if not, at source should work |
| 00:02.39 | Resinate | guys |
| 00:02.39 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:02.45 | Resinate | whats the name of the band from this video |
| 00:02.45 | Resinate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-nCajng6i8&feature=related |
| 00:02.51 | Vulfe | if you're hosting it on a unit, make sure to use _Unit |
| 00:02.52 | Vulfe | btw |
| 00:02.54 | Arthas- | expansion might have it! they need to pull mappers aswell |
| 00:02.56 | goomba_ | it didnt work |
| 00:02.59 | goomba_ | and neither did at source |
| 00:03.13 | goomba_ | or at effect |
| 00:03.23 | goomba_ | or at target |
| 00:03.24 | Arthas- | Resinate i dont know, youtube aint loading :( |
| 00:03.43 | SweetZombieJesus | argh |
| 00:04.00 | SweetZombieJesus | the room map between regular maps that blizzard made is crazy big |
| 00:04.10 | SweetZombieJesus | im just trying to find a flash animation example :*( |
| 00:04.48 | Arthas- | 412686_Wet_girls_have_ass_to_ass_orgasms.flv ? |
| 00:05.01 | SweetZombieJesus | old |
| 00:05.12 | Arthas- | indeed! |
| 00:05.19 | Arthas- | lemme find a real flash for ya :p |
| 00:05.25 | Arthas- | i can take NG video |
| 00:05.31 | Arthas- | autoplay? |
| 00:05.37 | SweetZombieJesus | i have a flash |
| 00:05.40 | SweetZombieJesus | but i cant get it to work |
| 00:05.40 | Arthas- | oh |
| 00:05.43 | SweetZombieJesus | so im finding a blizz example |
| 00:05.50 | SweetZombieJesus | try and find one if you want |
| 00:05.55 | Arthas- | nah :D |
| 00:05.59 | SweetZombieJesus | im looking for the research upgrade flash atm |
| 00:06.05 | Arthas- | This is a job for ZOMBIE JESUS! ;) |
| 00:06.07 | SweetZombieJesus | the zeg/protoss animation |
| 00:06.23 | Arthas- | are we allowed to load flash then?= |
| 00:06.57 | SweetZombieJesus | i dunno |
| 00:06.58 | SweetZombieJesus | maybe not |
| 00:06.59 | Arthas- | hold |
| 00:07.02 | SweetZombieJesus | im trying to figure that out |
| 00:07.14 | Xackery | didn't a guy do a interface contest entry with custom flag? |
| 00:07.15 | Xackery | *flash |
| 00:07.21 | Resinate | i foundthe band name |
| 00:07.25 | goomba_ | bullet -> face |
| 00:07.27 | Resinate | its SAY Y - Angel's |
| 00:07.39 | Resinate | thats an awesome damsong |
| 00:07.57 | Arthas- | SweetZombieJesus |
| 00:08.04 | Arthas- | what function is used to load the flash in blizz maps |
| 00:08.09 | Arthas- | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/1979/ |
| 00:08.19 | Arthas- | check what the comments say for that function in here, if its blizz only |
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| 00:09.07 | SweetZombieJesus | its not in there |
| 00:09.14 | Arthas- | figures :p |
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| 00:10.57 | SweetZombieJesus | progammer: you managed to use flash files in a dialog yet? |
| 00:11.00 | Arthas- | tstory has tons of triggers :O |
| 00:11.06 | SweetZombieJesus | lol yes |
| 00:11.10 | SweetZombieJesus | took 2 mins to load that map here |
| 00:11.15 | Resinate | what map? |
| 00:11.18 | Arthas- | 43s here and i thought it took long |
| 00:11.23 | SweetZombieJesus | TStory.SC2Map |
| 00:11.24 | Arthas- | Resinate the hyperion one |
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| 00:11.37 | SweetZombieJesus | look at its size |
| 00:11.41 | SweetZombieJesus | 19.5 mb |
| 00:12.04 | progammer | nope not that i dont manage to |
| 00:12.07 | progammer | blizz unauthorize it |
| 00:12.17 | SweetZombieJesus | but they use it |
| 00:12.22 | SweetZombieJesus | and im trying to find where and how they used it |
| 00:12.26 | SweetZombieJesus | but i cant find it Oo |
| 00:12.32 | progammer | aka only blizzard map can |
| 00:12.33 | Resinate | where do u dl this map LOL |
| 00:12.38 | Arthas- | only blizz signed maps |
| 00:12.43 | SweetZombieJesus | how do you know |
| 00:12.45 | Arthas- | Resinate its in the mpq for the campaign |
| 00:12.54 | Resinate | is it a cusotm game |
| 00:12.55 | progammer | yep that's why inauthorized |
| 00:12.56 | Resinate | thats hidden? |
| 00:12.56 | Arthas- | they lock some stuff down |
| 00:13.10 | Arthas- | they prolly dont want you running possibly unsafe code :p |
| 00:13.39 | SweetZombieJesus | meh |
| 00:13.49 | ZarafFaraz | hey guys |
| 00:13.49 | Arthas- | ctrl + f11 = stupid |
| 00:13.52 | SweetZombieJesus | fine ill do it the ugly way :< |
| 00:14.02 | ZarafFaraz | any of you able to come on bnet to help me run a 2 min test to make a video please? :) |
| 00:14.06 | ZarafFaraz | bnet NA |
| 00:14.11 | Arthas- | eu here :( |
| 00:14.29 | ZarafFaraz | SZJ, are you in NA or EU? |
| 00:14.39 | SweetZombieJesus | eu |
| 00:14.42 | ZarafFaraz | damn |
| 00:15.20 | waterfoul | anyone willing to help me balance a power towers remake? |
| 00:15.41 | waterfoul | I also need ideas for towers (I don't want to just copy them) |
| 00:16.12 | Resinate | uh guys |
| 00:16.20 | Resinate | i think i just crapped out a dildo XD |
| 00:16.31 | Resinate | iwas like sticking out of the water |
| 00:16.45 | RaydenUni | why was a dildo in your ass? |
| 00:16.57 | Resinate | dunno |
| 00:17.05 | Resinate | prob someone put it there when i was sleeping |
| 00:17.15 | RaydenUni | you got raped |
| 00:17.26 | Resinate | hey i thought it was only a dream |
| 00:17.52 | Resinate | gotta say MAN I FEEL GOOD |
| 00:18.11 | Resinate | abou tthaqt map |
| 00:18.19 | Resinate | TStory map |
| 00:18.24 | Resinate | is that like a hidden custom map? |
| 00:18.34 | Resinate | or is it part of the campaign |
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| 00:19.25 | SweetZombieJesus | its campaign |
| 00:19.28 | SweetZombieJesus | its the rooms |
| 00:19.33 | SweetZombieJesus | research, armory, bridge etc |
| 00:19.53 | Arthas- | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 00:20.04 | Arthas- | I forgot to close tstory before closing editor so now it opens it again |
| 00:20.07 | Arthas- | :( |
| 00:20.18 | Resinate | HAHAHA |
| 00:20.25 | Resinate | u got raped |
| 00:20.30 | Resinate | by pixels |
| 00:20.44 | Resinate | my god |
| 00:20.50 | Resinate | this band is so fcking hard to find |
| 00:21.02 | Resinate | theres no torrent of them |
| 00:21.02 | SweetZombieJesus | lol |
| 00:21.07 | SweetZombieJesus | name? |
| 00:21.11 | Resinate | its called Say - Y |
| 00:21.19 | SweetZombieJesus | the band? |
| 00:21.24 | Resinate | yep |
| 00:21.25 | Resinate | here |
| 00:21.26 | SweetZombieJesus | or band and song? |
| 00:21.44 | Resinate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZghrgv8MX8&feature=related |
| 00:22.01 | Resinate | heres the real angels song |
| 00:22.02 | Resinate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VKJ7zS1nn8&feature=related |
| 00:22.07 | Resinate | i want this band LOL |
| 00:22.10 | SweetZombieJesus | oO |
| 00:23.46 | Resinate | cant find it anywhere |
| 00:23.50 | Resinate | its def a rare band |
| 00:23.55 | Resinate | might have to use limewire for this |
| 00:25.54 | SweetZombieJesus | i looked on my site and it didnt have it |
| 00:25.58 | SweetZombieJesus | so it is really rare |
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| 00:31.05 | Mozared | Hmmm.... is there a 'change unit decal' option somewhere? |
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| 00:31.14 | Mozared | (in triggers) |
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| 00:34.05 | HP-X|Arthas | 1. Download new nvidia drivers |
| 00:34.10 | HP-X|Arthas | 2. Run installation |
| 00:34.12 | HP-X|Arthas | 3. ???? |
| 00:34.16 | HP-X|Arthas | 4. Have computer crash on you! |
| 00:36.06 | SweetZombieJesus | night! |
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| 00:37.45 | Mozared | Evening you two |
| 00:37.53 | Arthas- | evening |
| 00:38.14 | Xackery | http://www.thingsthatamuseme.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/advicecolumn.jpg haha. |
| 00:38.18 | Mozared | I'm gonna ask again, since I think both of you are triggergurus.... |
| 00:38.26 | Mozared | Is there a 'change unit decal' option somewhere in the triggers? |
| 00:38.36 | Mozared | I'm trying to have my 'spy' fly in in a Dominion transport |
| 00:38.50 | Mozared | Right now it's got a huge decal on the transport saying "IM A SPY! HI!" =P |
| 00:39.26 | Arthas- | changing decals if possible (most likely) would be through actors i think |
| 00:39.37 | Arthas- | or send an actor message |
| 00:39.48 | Arthas- | unfortunately, I still havent digged into actors |
| 00:39.51 | Mozared | What about a... not changing decals option? |
| 00:40.01 | Mozared | I could just make the spawned transport belong to the dominion faction in the map |
| 00:40.07 | Mozared | and then change ownership and retain colours |
| 00:40.13 | Arthas- | not quite sure |
| 00:40.15 | Mozared | problem is, retain colours DOES seem to change declas |
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| 00:44.48 | Fromethius | which of these looks better? http://i.imgur.com/R54g7.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/Fm24T.jpg |
| 00:45.21 | Mozared | Second one *looks* better |
| 00:45.21 | Armentia | So, need some ideas |
| 00:45.25 | Mozared | First one probably handles a lot better |
| 00:45.51 | Armentia | I'm just making a quick little set of triggers that random moves units from point to point. |
| 00:46.05 | Armentia | It's simple enough to use unit enters region, move to random region |
| 00:46.27 | Armentia | But I want them to also randomly idle in the region, but then I lose the effectiveness and ease of unit enters region |
| 00:46.38 | Fromethius | hm |
| 00:46.40 | Armentia | Any ideas? |
| 00:46.44 | Fromethius | more opinions! |
| 00:46.53 | Armentia | Opinion of what? I just joined |
| 00:46.53 | Mozared | Don't think I fully understand what you're on about yet, Armentia |
| 00:47.22 | Armentia | Okay, I've got marines in a base. I've got groups of small circular shapes grouped together to make a region |
| 00:47.36 | Armentia | If I have them move to a random point in region, it's often a different particular circle |
| 00:47.52 | Armentia | So they leave the region and move to another part of the same region |
| 00:48.19 | Mozared | Wait |
| 00:48.22 | Armentia | Once they get to the next circle, the trigger refires as a unit enters a region |
| 00:48.23 | Mozared | You got one big region |
| 00:48.27 | Mozared | And several smaller ones in there? |
| 00:48.34 | Armentia | You could do it with many separate regions too |
| 00:48.37 | Armentia | Same thing |
| 00:48.50 | bobthenoob | whats the best way to remove a dialog.. sometimes it doesn't want to remove.. |
| 00:48.53 | Armentia | Just for ease of not having 40 unit enters regions in each trigger I group them together |
| 00:49.15 | Armentia | numpad 0 is a godsend to me so far |
| 00:49.26 | Armentia | I must learn all the other little tricks |
| 00:49.29 | Armentia | =] |
| 00:49.29 | Mozared | It might be me, but I still don't get it... what are you trying to achieve? |
| 00:49.29 | Saucy | My back is all tense.. :\ |
| 00:49.42 | Armentia | Okay, moza |
| 00:50.01 | Armentia | Imagine an obstacle course/bound map, where you have to cross a space while a unit is patroling |
| 00:50.13 | Armentia | To get that unit to patrol back and forth, you could do two things |
| 00:50.25 | Armentia | You could have it already set at a point, and order it to patrol to another point |
| 00:50.44 | Armentia | Or you could have a region at both ends. When it enters one region, order it to move to the other |
| 00:50.55 | Armentia | Simple enough idea right? |
| 00:51.07 | bobthenoob | yep.. |
| 00:51.08 | Mozared | Aye |
| 00:51.27 | Armentia | K, now what if I want it to wait in the region for a random amount of seconds, and then order it to move? |
| 00:51.49 | Mozared | Add a wait command? |
| 00:51.52 | Armentia | Hmm.. |
| 00:52.02 | Armentia | For some reason I dismissed that earlier and I can't remember why |
| 00:52.09 | Armentia | I must find out! |
| 00:52.15 | Mozared | Sounds easy enough to me |
| 00:52.26 | Mozared | Just add something along the lines of Wait (between 1 and 10 seconds) of game time |
| 00:52.33 | Mozared | Beofre the "order unit to move to Region A" |
| 00:52.36 | Mozared | in the Region B trigger |
| 00:52.38 | bobthenoob | when enters region set it to wait? |
| 00:52.41 | Armentia | I think I was thinking about in wc3 editor, last _____ unit got overwritten |
| 00:52.52 | Armentia | But this isn't last _______ unit |
| 00:52.59 | Armentia | This is triggering unit |
| 00:53.06 | Mozared | Well, it depends |
| 00:53.12 | Mozared | if you have multiple folks patrolling the same path |
| 00:53.20 | Mozared | it might overwrite the 'last entering unit' thing |
| 00:53.26 | Mozared | If that's the case you'll need to use variables I guess? |
| 00:54.06 | bobthenoob | how do u make sure a dialog closes.. |
| 00:54.15 | Armentia | But it's not last entering unit, it's triggering unit |
| 00:54.23 | bobthenoob | it has a mind of it's own.. |
| 00:54.25 | Armentia | Will that get overwritten if another unit |
| 00:54.34 | Armentia | I haven't messed with dialogs yet, sorry bob =[ |
| 00:54.39 | Mozared | I'm not sure, you'll have to test yet |
| 00:54.43 | Mozared | and same here Bob |
| 00:54.44 | Armentia | Getting ready to |
| 00:54.47 | Mozared | Would love to help, but dialogs aren't my thing |
| 00:55.22 | bobthenoob | xd made a waypoint system but sometimes it doesn't want to close the dialog |
| 00:55.52 | bobthenoob | most of the times is closes.. |
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| 00:56.27 | Armentia | Hmm |
| 00:56.34 | bobthenoob | im just wondering whats the best way to make sure it closes.. |
| 00:57.39 | bobthenoob | right now i have it set to when you leave region to remove dialog.. |
| 00:58.05 | Ekals | You could close it with ESC, leaving a region, a timer, when another dialog pops up, etc. |
| 00:58.51 | bobthenoob | yeah i have it to leaving a region |
| 00:59.03 | Ekals | if it works, then leave it at that :P |
| 00:59.07 | Armentia | Okay, so it works. But I do have another problem. Because they units are moving around from point to point inside a region, sometimes they are ordered to move to the same point in the same part of the region, in which case they don't re-trigger |
| 00:59.41 | bobthenoob | well it doesn't work all the time. |
| 00:59.42 | Armentia | Blah. I think I'm just going to make this based off of a timer or something |
| 01:00.00 | Ekals | if you want to send me the source I can help you, armentia |
| 01:00.25 | Ekals | I was here yesterday trying to figure out how to modify Ability Indexes, but nobody knew how. If anyone figures out how could they let me know? |
| 01:00.47 | Armentia | ability index, that's like the 'a001' in wc3? |
| 01:01.26 | Ekals | Not quite, that's more like its ID |
| 01:01.34 | Armentia | Oh |
| 01:01.42 | Ekals | Each unit has abilities like "0 Move, 1 Attack, 2 Psistorm"... |
| 01:02.00 | Armentia | yeah |
| 01:02.01 | Ekals | however the indexes are not modifiable, even with XML |
| 01:02.04 | SouLCarveR | ekals its pretty simple Ekals |
| 01:02.18 | Ekals | rearranging them does nothing, adding the indexes manually does nothing. |
| 01:02.32 | Xackery | you know what I wish Bliz would do.. (Or I wonder if you can't already do this) |
| 01:02.36 | Ekals | SoulCarveR: I sure hope so. How do I do it? |
| 01:02.49 | SouLCarveR | well it depends on what exactly your trying to do |
| 01:03.00 | Armentia | rotating regions Xackery ? |
| 01:03.03 | SouLCarveR | pm me if you wanna describe it |
| 01:03.11 | Xackery | Catalog Gets (read only) on certain key info during runtime. Such as, Number of charges on an ability. |
| 01:03.31 | Xackery | Or how many attributes on a behavior. |
| 01:03.34 | Ekals | I want "0 Move, 1 Attack, 2 Psistorm" to be "1 Move, 2 Attack, 0 Psistorm" or however else I want it. |
| 01:03.36 | Xackery | *points |
| 01:03.37 | Xackery | etc. |
| 01:03.46 | Ekals | I just want to modify the ability indexes in any fashion I wish |
| 01:04.01 | Xackery | from what i've seen |
| 01:04.16 | SouLCarveR | well do you know how to read the abilities out for the array Ekals? |
| 01:04.21 | Xackery | Unit's ability list, Command card setup... is all stuff that has to be done prior to runtime. :/ |
| 01:04.46 | Ekals | Xackery: That's awful. Is there a workaround? |
| 01:05.00 | SouLCarveR | set your units up ahead of time for the abilities? |
| 01:05.02 | Xackery | Put all abilities possible for a unit at setup. Then show/hide them. |
| 01:05.02 | SouLCarveR | EKALS |
| 01:05.08 | SouLCarveR | what your spose to do |
| 01:05.09 | Xackery | during runtime |
| 01:05.22 | SouLCarveR | is set up the requirements and such on the buttons |
| 01:05.26 | Vulfe | that's interesting... |
| 01:05.33 | Vulfe | in wc3, I don't think that was true |
| 01:05.42 | Xackery | WC3 had more flexibility in that regard, yeah. |
| 01:05.47 | Ekals | So wait, how exactly do you hide an ability? |
| 01:05.55 | SouLCarveR | you set up the requirements |
| 01:06.00 | Xackery | There's an action that literally show/hides an ability. Or you can set a requirement, yep. |
| 01:06.10 | SouLCarveR | the requirement tree in the button stuff is pretty indepth |
| 01:06.11 | Ekals | Rofl, that's so asinine. |
| 01:06.39 | SouLCarveR | well WC3 didnt really have Pre-definded action cards if i remeber right stuff was automatically added to it |
| 01:06.47 | Xackery | From what I've seen, if a unit has an ability and it's not on it's command card, you can't issue it orders for it either. |
| 01:07.04 | Ekals | That doesn't help me at all though, since how will I know which abilities to hide/remove last? How do I even get the right abilities in the first place? |
| 01:07.05 | Xackery | Overlapping buttons seems to work if the bottom one has autocast on it, though. XD |
| 01:07.05 | SouLCarveR | then again |
| 01:07.33 | SouLCarveR | it may be possible to write the command card data at run time.... but thats a massive array that might be pretty tough to pick apart |
| 01:07.53 | SouLCarveR | Ekals |
| 01:07.58 | SouLCarveR | you can do ifs |
| 01:08.02 | SouLCarveR | in the require ments |
| 01:08.06 | SouLCarveR | like unit has behavior |
| 01:08.10 | SouLCarveR | unit has ability |
| 01:08.13 | Ekals | That's tedious. |
| 01:08.15 | SouLCarveR | unit has ability charges |
| 01:08.18 | SouLCarveR | eh |
| 01:08.27 | Resinate | guys |
| 01:08.28 | SouLCarveR | so is adding abilities at run time |
| 01:08.29 | Xackery | SouLCarveR: I've tried setting teh command card the three ways you manipulate data on runtime. Catalog sets (triggers). Data modification (data editor), and upgrades. The only that even has the option is triggers, and it gives me a read only error. |
| 01:08.34 | Resinate | why did Player - Player Any Player leaves the game with Any stop working |
| 01:08.43 | Resinate | its completely busted now |
| 01:08.49 | Ekals | Is there another thing I can go off of? Like an alternate index? |
| 01:09.06 | SouLCarveR | Xackry |
| 01:09.10 | Ekals | Some static thing I can type into the data editor to give it a unique number? |
| 01:09.34 | Xackery | You can't "write" command card data. Instead, you can only show/hide data already on it. XD |
| 01:09.40 | SouLCarveR | well |
| 01:09.43 | SouLCarveR | im just saying |
| 01:09.46 | SouLCarveR | i havent tried it |
| 01:09.55 | SouLCarveR | but the formatting on that array is pretty complicated |
| 01:09.59 | Xackery | If you figure it out, be sure to post it. |
| 01:10.06 | Xackery | the array isn't that complicated. XD |
| 01:10.09 | Xackery | raw data view reveals all |
| 01:10.13 | SouLCarveR | yeah well |
| 01:10.22 | SouLCarveR | it should be the raw data view value |
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| 01:10.45 | SouLCarveR | it might be possible in script? |
| 01:10.52 | SouLCarveR | but i dont use script at all yet |
| 01:11.14 | Xackery | Blizzard seems to have gone down a huge list of things you can modify at runtime, with no rhyme or reason. |
| 01:11.18 | SouLCarveR | so yeah work on those button requirements |
| 01:11.19 | Xackery | the list of what they let you modify is pretty limited. |
| 01:11.31 | SouLCarveR | nah it kinda makes sense |
| 01:11.44 | SouLCarveR | the units should really have predifined abilities |
| 01:11.46 | Fromethius | which is better? http://i.imgur.com/R54g7.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/Fm24T.jpg |
| 01:12.18 | Eiviyn | What's the inventory for |
| 01:12.19 | Ekals | The smaller one takes up less room and therefore looks nicer in my opinion |
| 01:12.19 | Xackery | I don't see the difference |
| 01:12.20 | SouLCarveR | why do you need to assign abilities at run time? |
| 01:12.27 | Xackery | oh. equip window |
| 01:12.30 | rooj | the smaller one |
| 01:12.35 | Eiviyn | Is it specific equipment or just random equipment |
| 01:12.36 | Fromethius | ok |
| 01:12.38 | Xackery | I hate inventory system of SC2 :( I really hope they fix it one day. |
| 01:12.38 | Fromethius | that's what i thought too |
| 01:12.44 | Fromethius | i know.. |
| 01:12.46 | Fromethius | it looks terrible |
| 01:12.49 | Fromethius | but i need it >.> |
| 01:12.50 | Eiviyn | What's wrong with the sc2 inventory? |
| 01:12.57 | rooj | cant you use dialogues instead? |
| 01:13.04 | Fromethius | hm? |
| 01:13.04 | Xackery | It's not like it's not functional. Or that it doesn't work. I mean, it's REALLY flexible sure. |
| 01:13.09 | Fromethius | can you elaborate rooj? |
| 01:13.27 | Eiviyn | The only thing I dislike is that the blank face option doesn't work for the inventory |
| 01:13.30 | rooj | i dunno, i thought the inventory window was just a dialogue in itself |
| 01:13.47 | Fromethius | oh |
| 01:14.06 | Xackery | But what I hate is how annoying it is to manipulate. The display is limited. You can't directly manipulate items to hotkeys, nor is there an easy route to display windows except for telling people to press numkey 1 and 2. Also events for item management is limited, such as you can't properly track item dropping. |
| 01:14.10 | Xackery | There's issues like that all over. XD |
| 01:14.36 | Eiviyn | What... |
| 01:14.40 | Eiviyn | You can track item dropping |
| 01:14.46 | Eiviyn | You can assign items to hotkeys |
| 01:14.50 | Xackery | you know that an item dropped |
| 01:14.56 | Eiviyn | Yes |
| 01:15.02 | Eiviyn | Then use a condition to identify the item |
| 01:15.03 | Xackery | but try to figure out who dropped it |
| 01:15.12 | Xackery | you can find out where the item is now |
| 01:15.19 | Xackery | you can find out what the item is |
| 01:15.21 | Eiviyn | Closest unit to triggering unit |
| 01:15.29 | Eiviyn | Set drop range to 0 |
| 01:15.30 | Eiviyn | Solved |
| 01:15.32 | Fromethius | eiviyn how do you give the items hotkeys? |
| 01:15.36 | Xackery | that's a guess though, what if the range to drop the item is far enough and you drop it by your friend? |
| 01:15.40 | Xackery | closest unit would be wrong |
| 01:15.44 | Eiviyn | Add the WoW inventory to a unit and you'll see |
| 01:15.49 | Eiviyn | Why would it be wrong |
| 01:16.03 | Xackery | because you dropped it right by another player, and they are as close as you |
| 01:16.04 | Xackery | XD |
| 01:16.05 | Eiviyn | Obviously in the filters you untick items |
| 01:16.26 | Eiviyn | If the drop range is 0, then it would take a freak of nature to be any unit than the one that dropped it |
| 01:16.38 | Xackery | but I don't want 0 range |
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| 01:16.56 | Xackery | the only reason you need 0 range is because you're patching a "problem" with the inventory system |
| 01:16.57 | Xackery | XD |
| 01:17.06 | Xackery | there's other issues, too. |
| 01:17.24 | Xackery | I imagine though |
| 01:17.29 | Xackery | with the two coming expansions |
| 01:17.36 | Xackery | they'll keep fixing things and making them better. |
| 01:17.57 | Xackery | Just for now, I loathe playing RPG's using the inventory system.. gameplay wise, it's a bit cumbersome |
| 01:18.20 | Eiviyn | There's 2 issues I have with the inventory system, nothing more |
| 01:18.25 | Eiviyn | #1: blank faces don't work, at all |
| 01:18.32 | Eiviyn | #2: can't change the hotkey from num0 |
| 01:18.48 | Xackery | only way to activate items with abilities is by clicking them. no way to hotkey items |
| 01:18.58 | Eiviyn | Played extensively with the inventory and those were the only 2 issues that annoyed me |
| 01:19.01 | Eiviyn | Not true |
| 01:19.02 | Eiviyn | Make an item |
| 01:19.10 | Eiviyn | Have it activate an ability on the unit |
| 01:19.15 | Eiviyn | Hide the ability behind move or whatever |
| 01:19.27 | Eiviyn | Have the ability disabled by default, only activated by the item |
| 01:19.34 | Eiviyn | Give the ability whatever hotkey you want |
| 01:19.40 | Xackery | Yeah. But now you just forced a creation of that ability on EVERY unit. and once again, it's a hackjob |
| 01:19.42 | Xackery | to a problem |
| 01:19.45 | Xackery | that shouldn't really exist XD |
| 01:20.06 | Eiviyn | On every unit with an ability |
| 01:20.13 | Xackery | On every unit with an inventory. |
| 01:20.14 | Eiviyn | Well, it works, and is it really broken |
| 01:20.19 | Eiviyn | Yeah, that |
| 01:20.31 | Eiviyn | My map, right now there's 10 abilities |
| 01:20.38 | Xackery | I didn't say it was broken. |
| 01:20.39 | Eiviyn | You buy the abilities from the shop |
| 01:20.40 | Xackery | I said I didn't like it |
| 01:20.44 | Xackery | I have personal "loathings" of it |
| 01:20.51 | Eiviyn | They all have hotkeys and it all works smoothly |
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| 01:21.32 | Eiviyn | The only complaint I have is that I can't set different hotkeys for different keyboard setups |
| 01:21.47 | Fromethius | eiviyn you're not using the inventory system you just have it set up so that you buy the abilities and you have a submenu on the command card for them? |
| 01:22.02 | Eiviyn | No |
| 01:22.03 | Xackery | pretty much, since that's his solutionf or abilities |
| 01:22.07 | Xackery | is to clutter the player's command card |
| 01:22.07 | Xackery | XD |
| 01:22.10 | Eiviyn | I have an item |
| 01:22.13 | Eiviyn | Say, item x |
| 01:22.18 | Eiviyn | And an ability, say ability y |
| 01:22.22 | Eiviyn | And a unit, z |
| 01:22.41 | Eiviyn | The unit has the ability from the item by default, but disabled |
| 01:22.53 | Eiviyn | The ability is hidden behind an existing button |
| 01:23.07 | Eiviyn | When you pick up item x it enables ability y |
| 01:23.13 | Fromethius | hmm interesting |
| 01:23.16 | Eiviyn | When you drop it, the ability gets disabled |
| 01:23.19 | Fromethius | that's what i was going to do |
| 01:23.25 | Eiviyn | The result is only being able to use the ability while you have the item |
| 01:23.28 | Fromethius | but i wasn't sure if there was much support for it or how it would work |
| 01:23.32 | Xackery | I'd rather just make the shop purchase skills and give you the ability, and not bother with items at all. Less cumbersome. Heh. |
| 01:23.36 | Eiviyn | Complete with hotkey |
| 01:23.37 | Fromethius | would you recommend that over the inventory system? |
| 01:23.50 | Eiviyn | Nah, adding abilities to units doesn't work very well |
| 01:23.56 | Eiviyn | I messed with that a lot |
| 01:24.02 | Eiviyn | And there was a huge delay for some reason |
| 01:24.08 | Fromethius | really? |
| 01:24.09 | Eiviyn | Random, huge delay |
| 01:24.14 | Eiviyn | Sometimes it was instant |
| 01:24.18 | Fromethius | are you using triggers or something? |
| 01:24.18 | Resinate | hey onetwo u still here? |
| 01:24.20 | Eiviyn | Sometimes it took upwards of 30 seconds |
| 01:24.30 | Eiviyn | I added abilities via triggers yeah |
| 01:24.53 | Xackery | I wish you could drag-drop dialogs. Cuz I'd just make the wc3 inventory system in a heart beat, over the portrait. heh. |
| 01:25.05 | Xackery | prefer that to opening/closing inventory all the time |
| 01:25.24 | Eiviyn | You can do that |
| 01:25.29 | Eiviyn | As I said add the wow inventory to a unit |
| 01:25.36 | Eiviyn | There's 2 inventory bags |
| 01:25.40 | Eiviyn | And 4 "drag n drop" slots |
| 01:25.42 | Xackery | i'll check it out |
| 01:25.48 | Eiviyn | I've not messed around with it much |
| 01:25.51 | Eiviyn | But I did notice it |
| 01:25.57 | Fromethius | eiviyn why use triggers instead of requirements for using the ability..? |
| 01:25.58 | Eiviyn | By default it has some healing pots or something |
| 01:26.19 | Eiviyn | Because the requirement for using an ability requires every unit with an inventory to have that ability already |
| 01:26.31 | Eiviyn | While with triggers you can add the ability wholesale to any unit |
| 01:26.45 | Eiviyn | Just the trigger variant wouldn't work for me very well at all |
| 01:26.49 | Fromethius | i take it you have a lot of units? |
| 01:26.53 | Eiviyn | Nah |
| 01:27.02 | Eiviyn | It was just adding it to 1 |
| 01:27.04 | Fromethius | why not just add the abilities then?.. lol |
| 01:27.23 | Eiviyn | Because of the 5-30 second delay that seemed to occur between adding them and them appearing |
| 01:27.37 | Fromethius | oh, i have a question |
| 01:27.57 | Fromethius | would it be possible to have it so when you pick up the item that the ability is placed in the first available position in a submenu? |
| 01:27.59 | Xackery | I assume the wow inventory is "test inventory" ? |
| 01:28.12 | Eiviyn | Nah there's one labeled wow character or something |
| 01:28.28 | Fromethius | so if you have no items and pick up a potion it goes to position (1,1) of submenu 4 |
| 01:28.37 | Eiviyn | Would be possible Fromethius, just a little complex |
| 01:28.45 | Eiviyn | And trigger heavy |
| 01:28.54 | Fromethius | any insight? i may end up doing this |
| 01:28.55 | Xackery | wow doesn't bring up any results in the ability tab, I added the campaign and storymode dependencies too. |
| 01:29.33 | Xackery | only inventories is TestInventory (unnamed) and Default Ability |
| 01:30.26 | Xackery | testinventory seems to be it |
| 01:33.31 | Fromethius | hm... |
| 01:33.33 | Fromethius | eiviyn |
| 01:33.39 | Fromethius | there may be a way to do it without triggers |
| 01:33.43 | Fromethius | just have the requirement set to show |
| 01:33.53 | Fromethius | and just put every single ability at every position on the command card |
| 01:34.12 | Fromethius | actually, nevermind that wouldn't work rofl |
| 01:35.15 | Resinate | my god |
| 01:35.19 | Resinate | i hate dealing with douche bags |
| 01:35.24 | Resinate | who argue everything |
| 01:35.29 | Resinate | cuz they think they know everything |
| 01:35.36 | Mozared | They're called scientists |
| 01:35.41 | goomba_ | youre wrong |
| 01:35.43 | goomba_ | i know everything |
| 01:35.43 | Resinate | thisguy claims to know every trigger in game |
| 01:35.49 | Resinate | im serious |
| 01:35.53 | Resinate | this guy pisses me off |
| 01:35.57 | Resinate | he doesnt know how |
| 01:36.04 | Resinate | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.07 | Resinate | works fully |
| 01:36.19 | Resinate | he think it only works if someone wins agame |
| 01:36.25 | Resinate | its actully linked to |
| 01:36.43 | Resinate | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.55 | Resinate | if thats turned on |
| 01:37.00 | Resinate | itll work when someone quits |
| 01:37.08 | Fromethius | resinate that trigger will not fire if someone leaves the game while the game is in progress iirc |
| 01:37.19 | Resinate | u wanna see a screen shot? |
| 01:37.19 | Fromethius | it only occurs after someone wins/loses/ties and then leaves |
| 01:37.22 | Fromethius | sure |
| 01:37.26 | Resinate | give me 5 mins |
| 01:38.08 | Resinate | ill do with me and 2 comps who cant attack |
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| 01:39.19 | Resinate | i need someone in map |
| 01:39.24 | Resinate | it quits out too fast |
| 01:39.35 | Resinate | fking hungry |
| 01:41.06 | Resinate | il be back in 1 hour |
| 01:41.11 | Resinate | i need to eat alot of food |
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| 01:47.03 | Mozared | Err... err |
| 01:47.03 | Mozared | How does movement speed work? |
| 01:47.09 | Mozared | It's obviously not percentage, as 70 movement speed makes a unit teleport =') |
| 01:49.55 | Resinate | use a range from 1-10 |
| 01:50.02 | Resinate | 1 slowest |
| 01:50.04 | Resinate | 10 fastest |
| 01:55.05 | Mozared | ~seen goomba_ |
| 01:55.06 | purl | goomba_ is currently on #sc2mapster (3d 2h 37m 27s). Has said a total of 410 messages. Is idling for 19m 23s, last said: 'i know everything'. |
| 01:55.15 | Mozared | Hur hur |
| 01:55.20 | Mozared | Goomb, you here? |
| 01:56.07 | Fromethius | goomba stomping is illegal 'round these parts |
| 01:56.22 | Mozared | Who said anything about stomping? |
| 01:56.28 | Mozared | Just want his info on the data editor |
| 01:56.30 | Mozared | (and to stomp him) |
| 01:56.36 | Fromethius | ahah! i knew it! |
| 01:56.45 | Fromethius | move along sir |
| 01:56.57 | Mozared | Can you help me instead? |
| 01:56.59 | Fromethius | yeah |
| 01:57.04 | Fromethius | i am teh gosu data editor |
| 01:57.16 | Fromethius | i taught goomba everything he knows |
| 01:57.17 | Mozared | I'm trying to remove stealth and nuke from Tosh |
| 01:57.18 | rooj | gosu |
| 01:57.24 | Mozared | That's all I want to do |
| 01:57.27 | rooj | easy |
| 01:57.29 | Mozared | Somebody told me how on the forums |
| 01:57.35 | Mozared | But I forgot to add I'm a total data editor noob |
| 01:57.38 | Mozared | And still messed it up |
| 01:57.41 | rooj | open the UNIT tab |
| 01:57.47 | rooj | find Tosh |
| 01:57.49 | Mozared | I got that... looking at Gabriel Tosh now |
| 01:57.59 | rooj | click the ABILITY tab |
| 01:58.02 | rooj | you see all his abilities? |
| 01:58.08 | Mozared | Aye |
| 01:58.26 | rooj | see the command card? all the squares? |
| 01:58.32 | Mozared | I removed them there and from the command card |
| 01:58.35 | Mozared | But it didn't work |
| 01:58.41 | Mozared | If I go into my map he still has invisibility |
| 01:58.45 | Mozared | though the command card icons are gone |
| 01:58.56 | Mozared | (and yes I deleted them from the ability index above the card also) |
| 01:59.54 | Fromethius | unit - flags |
| 01:59.56 | Fromethius | cloaked |
| 01:59.57 | Fromethius | uncheck |
| 02:00.00 | Fromethius | qed |
| 02:00.01 | rooj | yeah that |
| 02:00.13 | Mozared | I don't see 'flags'? |
| 02:00.14 | rooj | Unit tab |
| 02:00.31 | Fromethius | don't tell me you're using table view |
| 02:00.36 | Fromethius | so help me god if you're using table view |
| 02:00.50 | Mozared | table view? |
| 02:00.53 | Fromethius | ok |
| 02:00.53 | Mozared | I'm looking at my screen =O |
| 02:00.58 | rooj | lol |
| 02:01.00 | Fromethius | just type in flags in to the search field |
| 02:01.03 | Fromethius | it should come right up |
| 02:01.32 | Mozared | I actually wasn't using table view |
| 02:01.37 | Mozared | But I do seem to need it to find it >.> |
| 02:01.54 | Fromethius | if you say so |
| 02:02.20 | Mozared | It's an observation... If I activate it, I see flags just fine |
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| 02:02.25 | Mozared | Anyways, thanks, this should probably do it |
| 02:02.30 | Resinate | has anyone been able to make a player left function that DOES NOT REPEAT |
| 02:02.41 | Resinate | without using 4 booleans |
| 02:02.46 | Mozared | 'turn off this trigger'? |
| 02:02.54 | Resinate | its for a 4 player map |
| 02:03.04 | Resinate | turning it off will only make 1 player removed |
| 02:03.18 | Mozared | Isn't that the idea of not repeating it? |
| 02:03.29 | Resinate | i need to run for players 1-4 |
| 02:03.34 | Resinate | say if u have 4 ppl playing |
| 02:03.36 | Resinate | and 2 quit |
| 02:03.42 | Resinate | the map will bug out |
| 02:03.45 | Fromethius | resinate i'm winning! xD |
| 02:03.52 | Resinate | winning what |
| 02:03.57 | Mozared | Cookies |
| 02:04.10 | Resinate | this patch 1.1 better be worth it |
| 02:04.29 | Fromethius | i'm sure it will be AMAZING |
| 02:04.35 | Fromethius | actually i'm kinda having second thoughts now |
| 02:04.45 | Resinate | how can they forget about if players leaving game |
| 02:04.56 | Resinate | didnt they even think about it when playing co-op online |
| 02:05.03 | Fromethius | meh |
| 02:05.05 | Fromethius | it's possible |
| 02:05.21 | Fromethius | while (true) if player status left game == true { gulp gulp gulp gulp } |
| 02:06.26 | Resinate | is lost viking a co-op map |
| 02:07.22 | Resinate | uh |
| 02:07.23 | Resinate | LOL |
| 02:07.25 | Resinate | whats this |
| 02:07.25 | Resinate | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.06 | Resinate | looks like they have a cheat code for the map |
| 02:08.07 | Resinate | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.52 | Resinate | wow |
| 02:10.55 | Resinate | this map is huge |
| 02:11.06 | Resinate | 1 min loading so far |
| 02:11.20 | rrowland | what map |
| 02:11.33 | rrowland | My map takes like 1 minute to close lol |
| 02:11.35 | Resinate | TStory.sc2map |
| 02:11.38 | Resinate | 90 seconds |
| 02:11.40 | Resinate | to loading |
| 02:11.45 | rrowland | What is tstory |
| 02:11.54 | Resinate | AND the map is blank LOL |
| 02:13.27 | Mozared | Isn't tstory the map that holds all story components? |
| 02:13.32 | Mozared | Like everything you see in the campaign when not in a mission? |
| 02:13.42 | Mozared | And yeah, it's black, Blizz are a bunch of racists =( |
| 02:13.48 | Mozared | It's probably that way for a reason though |
| 02:13.53 | Resinate | ROFL |
| 02:13.56 | Resinate | thats what it is |
| 02:13.58 | Eiviyn | Been working on my map since early beta |
| 02:14.09 | Mozared | You must be tired then |
| 02:14.10 | Eiviyn | Just tested it for the first time in a real gameplay situation |
| 02:14.16 | Eiviyn | Enjoyed it |
| 02:14.18 | Eiviyn | Feels good |
| 02:14.21 | Resinate | what map |
| 02:14.23 | Mozared | What are you making Eiv? |
| 02:14.58 | Eiviyn | Should have a youtube video of it sometime in the near future, but simply put it's Battleships for sc2 with a lot of bells and whistles |
| 02:15.14 | Resinate | like real BS |
| 02:15.15 | Mozared | Hmm, fair enough |
| 02:15.19 | Mozared | We'll see it on EU? |
| 02:15.20 | Resinate | where u pick points |
| 02:15.25 | Resinate | and its hit or miss |
| 02:15.28 | Eiviyn | Well I'm from EU |
| 02:15.31 | Mozared | o/ |
| 02:15.43 | Eiviyn | It's the US that I'd have difficulty publishing on |
| 02:15.46 | Resinate | fk EU playrs |
| 02:15.49 | Resinate | put it on US |
| 02:15.50 | Mozared | Who cares about the US tho |
| 02:15.57 | Mozared | Well, Americans do |
| 02:16.00 | Resinate | HAHAH |
| 02:16.04 | Mozared | But ey, who cares about Americans? |
| 02:16.08 | Eiviyn | I hope they remove the restriction on where you can publish |
| 02:16.11 | Mozared | Canadians probably |
| 02:16.16 | Mozared | But it's just getting weird now |
| 02:16.17 | Eiviyn | It's like |
| 02:16.17 | Eiviyn | Hey |
| 02:16.19 | Eiviyn | I'm EU |
| 02:16.22 | Eiviyn | I can't publish on US |
| 02:16.23 | Eiviyn | Great |
| 02:16.33 | Mozared | I suspect a lot will change in the map department though |
| 02:16.40 | Resinate | Eiv |
| 02:16.41 | Mozared | Prolly in one big patch when they introduce the map market |
| 02:16.46 | Resinate | what do u know about triggers? |
| 02:16.54 | Vulfe | I want my wc3 list abck |
| 02:16.55 | Vulfe | back |
| 02:16.55 | Eiviyn | Enough to get by |
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| 02:16.57 | Vulfe | cries |
| 02:17.05 | Resinate | have u got a working player leaves system? |
| 02:17.07 | Eiviyn | The wc3 list was worse than the sc2 list |
| 02:17.17 | Eiviyn | I've got a hackjob player leaves system |
| 02:17.21 | Eiviyn | Trigger runs every 10 sec |
| 02:17.25 | Eiviyn | Checks if a player is still ingame |
| 02:17.30 | Resinate | how |
| 02:17.34 | Resinate | ]i tried one |
| 02:17.39 | Resinate | all it did was spam like fk |
| 02:17.41 | Eiviyn | Condition: player has left the game |
| 02:17.48 | Eiviyn | = true |
| 02:17.57 | Resinate | thats it? |
| 02:18.01 | Eiviyn | Well, no |
| 02:18.06 | Eiviyn | Say you have 4 players |
| 02:18.09 | Resinate | did u use multiple booleans? |
| 02:18.16 | Eiviyn | You'd need a trigger (or an array) for each player |
| 02:18.17 | Eiviyn | Trigger would be like |
| 02:18.24 | Eiviyn | Perioid event 10 sec |
| 02:18.36 | Eiviyn | Condition - Player 1 has left the game = true |
| 02:18.40 | Resinate | yea but |
| 02:18.47 | Eiviyn | action - whatever |
| 02:18.49 | Resinate | wouldnt that spam the ppl whos gone |
| 02:18.59 | Resinate | over and over |
| 02:19.06 | Resinate | without a boolean |
| 02:19.07 | Eiviyn | Nah, you turn the trigger off after it's identified that player 1 has left |
| 02:19.12 | Resinate | how |
| 02:19.17 | Resinate | so u made 4 triggers |
| 02:19.22 | Mozared | if Condition - Player 1 has left the game = true |
| 02:19.25 | Mozared | then turn of this trigger? |
| 02:19.31 | Mozared | else do nothing? |
| 02:19.31 | Resinate | all in 1 trigger? |
| 02:19.37 | Mozared | Sounds like it'd work to me |
| 02:19.53 | Eiviyn | Pretty much |
| 02:19.56 | Resinate | did u use if-then? |
| 02:20.02 | Resinate | 4 of them right |
| 02:20.03 | Eiviyn | Depends |
| 02:20.09 | Resinate | what did u do for the action |
| 02:20.11 | Eiviyn | If you make a trigger for each player |
| 02:20.17 | Eiviyn | You don't need if-then-else |
| 02:20.24 | Resinate | i know that part |
| 02:20.26 | Eiviyn | If you use 1 trigger for all players, you probably do |
| 02:20.32 | Resinate | k |
| 02:20.53 | Resinate | and u use status of player |
| 02:20.55 | Resinate | correct |
| 02:21.13 | Eiviyn | Yeah |
| 02:21.28 | Resinate | status of player 1 = left game |
| 02:21.36 | Resinate | for condition |
| 02:22.13 | Resinate | what if i did a picked int for 1-4 |
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| 02:24.37 | merrillphish | How do you make a unit have no model? |
| 02:24.51 | Vulfe | http://i.imgur.com/1BflX.jpg |
| 02:24.53 | merrillphish | and get rid of that black orb |
| 02:25.12 | Resinate | spawn it on map |
| 02:25.19 | Resinate | and double click it |
| 02:25.23 | Resinate | check 1st box |
| 02:26.03 | merrillphish | how do I do it in data editor? |
| 02:26.20 | merrillphish | i need to create this unit with triggers mutliple times |
| 02:26.40 | Vulfe | make a model with no model |
| 02:26.43 | Vulfe | turn it into a unit actor |
| 02:26.47 | Vulfe | I think that works |
| 02:27.08 | Vulfe | if that doesn't work, then look for a model that doesn't have a model |
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| 02:27.39 | Vulfe | if that doesn't work, look for a way to hide the actor through events |
| 02:27.43 | Vulfe | that's really all I have to offer |
| 02:27.55 | merrillphish | ty |
| 02:28.11 | merrillphish | i am at the create object window |
| 02:28.18 | merrillphish | copy from? |
| 02:28.18 | Vulfe | for which |
| 02:28.25 | merrillphish | model object |
| 02:28.29 | Vulfe | Ah |
| 02:28.30 | Vulfe | nothing |
| 02:28.33 | Vulfe | just make a new one |
| 02:28.50 | merrillphish | set to parent value? |
| 02:28.54 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 02:29.35 | merrillphish | now i have to link the actor to the unit? |
| 02:29.43 | Vulfe | do you have an actor yet? |
| 02:29.46 | Vulfe | or just the model |
| 02:30.03 | Resinate | guys what more effective |
| 02:30.10 | Resinate | repeat trigger forever |
| 02:30.11 | merrillphish | ahh |
| 02:30.13 | Resinate | or timed one |
| 02:30.15 | merrillphish | i got to make an actor |
| 02:30.20 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 02:30.24 | Vulfe | you have to make a unit actor |
| 02:30.43 | Vulfe | and attach the model object to it |
| 02:30.46 | Vulfe | and link it to the unit |
| 02:30.50 | Vulfe | straightforward enough |
| 02:31.28 | Resinate | ROFL |
| 02:31.40 | Resinate | repeat trigger breaks way too ez |
| 02:31.44 | merrillphish | i got the model attached to actor |
| 02:32.18 | merrillphish | now i attach the actor to the unit? |
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| 02:34.28 | Resinate | HAHHA NICE |
| 02:34.34 | Resinate | i just found a 1 line code |
| 02:34.43 | Resinate | to remove every unit owned by player |
| 02:35.11 | Resinate | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.16 | Resinate | VERY useful trigger |
| 02:39.57 | Vulfe | http://i51.tinypic.com/rm4opg.jpg |
| 02:39.58 | Vulfe | woot |
| 02:39.59 | Vulfe | yaay |
| 02:40.02 | Vulfe | Something done |
| 02:40.07 | Vulfe | well |
| 02:40.09 | Vulfe | kind of |
| 02:40.10 | Vulfe | :P |
| 02:40.47 | Resinate | vulf |
| 02:40.56 | Resinate | do u know a very simple trigger |
| 02:41.03 | Resinate | to select a certain unit |
| 02:41.15 | Resinate | when using unit is alive |
| 02:41.24 | Vulfe | : \ |
| 02:41.29 | Vulfe | using unit? |
| 02:41.32 | Vulfe | what do you mean |
| 02:41.47 | Resinate | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.54 | Resinate | thats just too much for 1 unit |
| 02:42.26 | Resinate | all i want is unit merc compound is alive = truw |
| 02:42.28 | Resinate | true* |
| 02:42.34 | Vulfe | well |
| 02:42.36 | Resinate | that dont have that |
| 02:42.48 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:42.55 | Resinate | its made to run for all 4 players at once |
| 02:42.56 | Vulfe | can't you just use a "unit is alive" condition |
| 02:43.09 | Resinate | thats what that is |
| 02:43.10 | Resinate | LOL |
| 02:43.17 | Vulfe | oh right |
| 02:43.21 | Vulfe | that's unit in unit group though |
| 02:43.22 | Resinate | no i cant |
| 02:43.27 | Whiskee | hum, where can I buy sc2 NA keys online? |
| 02:43.29 | Resinate | cuz the merc ompounds |
| 02:43.33 | Resinate | are not on map |
| 02:43.41 | Resinate | they are made in player startup uints |
| 02:43.48 | Vulfe | that's fine |
| 02:43.53 | Vulfe | you can save them to unit variables |
| 02:44.19 | Vulfe | meh |
| 02:44.22 | Vulfe | I'll take a look |
| 02:44.24 | Vulfe | one second x.x |
| 02:46.13 | Resinate | lol |
| 02:46.15 | Resinate | i just tried that |
| 02:46.24 | Resinate | its also only selectable by units alrdy on map |
| 02:47.12 | Vulfe | So, Resinate |
| 02:47.16 | Vulfe | what units for each palyer |
| 02:47.17 | Vulfe | player |
| 02:47.18 | Resinate | i found one |
| 02:47.20 | Resinate | im trying out |
| 02:47.21 | Vulfe | do you want to be selectable? |
| 02:47.27 | Resinate | i used unit type |
| 02:47.32 | Resinate | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.02 | Vulfe | If you want a player to just keep 1 unit selected, then the most efficient way to do that is to select it initially, then to check for when that player selects another unit, check the condition, and force them to select it again |
| 02:48.22 | Vulfe | because I don't think there's a way to select nothing |
| 02:48.23 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:48.43 | goomba_ | http://a.imageshack.us/img228/7714/eggback.png |
| 02:48.44 | Resinate | no selection option |
| 02:48.50 | goomba_ | working on a reskin of stettman |
| 02:48.50 | Resinate | for unit |
| 02:48.52 | Vulfe | Event: Unit is Selected |
| 02:48.54 | Resinate | when using unit is alive |
| 02:48.56 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 02:49.00 | Resinate | no no |
| 02:49.04 | Resinate | its not repeatable |
| 02:49.08 | Resinate | it runs only once |
| 02:49.08 | Vulfe | ? |
| 02:49.18 | Resinate | its the end game actions |
| 02:49.20 | Vulfe | what is your trigger supposed to do |
| 02:49.21 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 02:49.24 | Resinate | every time someone dies |
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| 02:49.28 | Resinate | player count is -1 |
| 02:49.32 | Resinate | when player 1 = 1 |
| 02:49.35 | Resinate | itll run this action |
| 02:49.41 | Vulfe | which...? |
| 02:49.41 | Resinate | player count = 1 * |
| 02:49.53 | Resinate | the select units |
| 02:49.56 | Resinate | if there alive |
| 02:50.02 | Resinate | it looks for the player thats still alive |
| 02:50.06 | Vulfe | mmk |
| 02:50.08 | Resinate | gives me the win |
| 02:50.14 | Resinate | and other 3 ppl whos units are dead |
| 02:50.17 | Resinate | are loose |
| 02:50.18 | Vulfe | is the win-giving part working fine? |
| 02:50.21 | goomba_ | like my reskin???????????????? xD |
| 02:50.39 | Vulfe | lol goomba |
| 02:50.43 | Vulfe | Egon Stetmann? |
| 02:50.45 | Vulfe | Whyyy |
| 02:50.59 | goomba_ | http://www.sc2mapster.com/teams/unnamed-campaign-goomba/forum/8467-the-insane-scientist-egges/#p9 |
| 02:51.08 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:51.36 | Resinate | the thing wont run |
| 02:51.43 | Resinate | without the merc compounded selected |
| 02:51.55 | Resinate | it runs to see whos compounds are still aliv |
| 02:51.57 | Resinate | alive |
| 02:52.56 | Resinate | ROFL |
| 02:53.00 | Resinate | ill just try this |
| 02:53.01 | Resinate | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:53.12 | Resinate | cuz when the other ppl are dead |
| 02:53.17 | Resinate | there not playing LOL |
| 02:53.23 | Resinate | i dont think |
| 02:54.31 | Resinate | WTF |
| 02:54.40 | Resinate | theres a trigger to change terrain textures |
| 02:55.00 | Komodo1138 | http://www.thebest404pageever.com/swf/jumping_all_around.swf |
| 02:55.03 | Resinate | AHHAAH |
| 02:55.09 | Resinate | u can also enable cheats |
| 02:59.35 | Resinate | there we go |
| 02:59.39 | Resinate | i got a system made now |
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| 03:00.03 | Vulfe | mmk |
| 03:00.04 | Vulfe | gj |
| 03:00.13 | Vulfe | http://i51.tinypic.com/rm4opg.jpg |
| 03:00.14 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 03:00.35 | Xaax | How would you go about changing the orientation of a buff model...? |
| 03:00.50 | Resinate | whats that |
| 03:00.51 | Vulfe | Site Attachment Ops |
| 03:00.52 | Vulfe | probably |
| 03:00.57 | Resinate | vulf |
| 03:01.05 | Vulfe | What Resinate |
| 03:01.08 | Xaax | @Vulfe that's pretty neat. |
| 03:01.14 | Vulfe | It's just random terrain |
| 03:01.15 | Vulfe | jesus |
| 03:01.16 | Resinate | whats the map suuposed to be |
| 03:01.21 | Xaax | Lol. |
| 03:01.22 | Resinate | oh |
| 03:01.25 | Vulfe | This is just part of a base |
| 03:01.29 | Vulfe | I might make more |
| 03:01.39 | Vulfe | and then make it into a map, but the first map in the series hasn't even been touched yet |
| 03:01.41 | Resinate | make a prison forme |
| 03:01.47 | Vulfe | lol |
| 03:01.48 | Vulfe | no |
| 03:02.07 | Vulfe | Anyway |
| 03:02.09 | Vulfe | I'm going to bed |
| 03:02.10 | Vulfe | :P |
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| 03:06.52 | Resinate | ROFL |
| 03:07.01 | Resinate | why does the best music always come from the rarest bands |
| 03:07.16 | Resinate | i just found a band where i love every single song they have |
| 03:07.23 | Resinate | but u cant dl any of their music anywhere |
| 03:07.31 | Komodo1138 | what band is it |
| 03:07.40 | Resinate | Say - Y |
| 03:07.53 | Resinate | there no torrents anywhere |
| 03:09.20 | Resinate | ita prob cuz thre a brand new band |
| 03:11.57 | Komodo1138 | they have been around since 2003 |
| 03:12.16 | Resinate | yea but theres not a single dl for them |
| 03:12.17 | Resinate | lol |
| 03:12.21 | Komodo1138 | lol |
| 03:12.27 | Resinate | but on utube they have tons of songs |
| 03:12.36 | Resinate | how do u dl music from utube? |
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| 03:14.27 | Komodo1138 | http://www.listentoyoutube.com/ <--- try this site. copy the youtube link |
| 03:15.13 | Resinate | hold on |
| 03:15.16 | Resinate | i found a torrent |
| 03:15.20 | Resinate | testing the song |
| 03:16.28 | Resinate | thanks for site |
| 03:16.30 | Resinate | im testing it no |
| 03:16.32 | Resinate | now lol |
| 03:16.35 | Komodo1138 | ok |
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| 03:27.29 | Resinate | komo |
| 03:27.33 | Resinate | that site failes |
| 03:27.36 | Resinate | now |
| 03:27.42 | Resinate | after 1st one i cant rip any more |
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| 03:28.41 | Komodo1138 | thats strange |
| 03:29.03 | Resinate | thank god i got my fav one 1st LOL |
| 03:30.01 | Komodo1138 | lol thats good :P |
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| 03:30.28 | Resinate | i fcking love this song |
| 03:30.34 | Resinate | its been so long since i heard new good music |
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| 03:36.14 | Tempus35 | Ok so I see all these things about how to add a sfx to attack and abilties, but I have a combination of behaviors and effects that makes a tower drain health from a nearby unit, how can i get an sfx on that unit as the health drain |
| 03:36.31 | Resinate | i know nothing about sound |
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| 03:48.44 | prodiG`afk | can anyone help me a bit with the data editor? :< |
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| 03:54.16 | Impaler | Hello |
| 03:54.40 | Impaler | Anyone know how to work with Actor animation controls? |
| 03:55.21 | Resinate | lol nope |
| 03:55.27 | Resinate | way too adv for me |
| 03:56.15 | prodiG | i have a custom destructible watchtower on my map, i have everything working fine except for it being selectable |
| 03:56.18 | Tempus35 | only a tiny bit, working on that now |
| 03:56.22 | prodiG | what am i missing? o_o |
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| 03:56.36 | Resinate | prod |
| 03:56.39 | Resinate | goto units |
| 03:56.45 | Resinate | use normal view |
| 03:56.51 | Resinate | goto the last tab called unt |
| 03:56.54 | Resinate | unit |
| 03:57.00 | Resinate | ull see 2 boxes of items |
| 03:57.10 | Resinate | 2nd box has something called unselectable |
| 03:57.17 | Resinate | mess with them |
| 03:57.25 | Resinate | u have to uncheck all the UNs |
| 03:57.29 | Resinate | i think |
| 03:58.17 | prodiG | is all of that in the data editor :p |
| 03:59.40 | rooj | yes |
| 04:01.07 | Twiner | ogm |
| 04:01.13 | Twiner | this is the coolest fucking thing I've ever seen http://gizmodo.com/5626248/what-is-this |
| 04:01.57 | prodiG | ah |
| 04:02.04 | prodiG | i unchecked all thsi stuff and it still didn't fix it |
| 04:02.05 | prodiG | :/ |
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| 04:03.29 | ReckeD | Whatup peeps |
| 04:03.47 | ReckeD | Could i possibly get someone to walk me through making a dragoon out of the immortal? |
| 04:05.36 | prodiG | gah wtf |
| 04:07.14 | prodiG | do i need to do something to the actor as well? |
| 04:14.46 | Resinate | i dunno |
| 04:14.50 | Resinate | thats all i know |
| 04:15.22 | prodiG | damn. |
| 04:15.27 | prodiG | well, that didn't do it so idk :< |
| 04:18.58 | rooj | bored |
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| 04:23.43 | Lilianna | rawr! |
| 04:26.26 | ReckeD | rawr? |
| 04:26.42 | ReckeD | anyone give me a few pointers with turning the immortal into a dragoon? |
| 04:26.52 | ReckeD | or point me at a tute or something |
| 04:30.19 | Resinate | u guys shoiuld watch america's got talent |
| 04:30.28 | Resinate | its gonna awesome later tonight |
| 04:30.36 | Resinate | the last act is porb the winner of the show |
| 04:30.39 | Resinate | its on right now |
| 04:31.04 | Resinate | also u guys should watch cuz my little sister is performing tonight |
| 04:31.52 | currydevil | Ok, got a question: using a custom ability "warp train" to build photon cannons. Adding starting charges to 3, and setting the " charge - time use" to 20 seconds.. though each time it goes to hit that cooldown it adds another 20 sec each time. :( |
| 04:32.16 | currydevil | is it possible to set the cooldown after the charges run out to a set amount and not adding that amount each time i use all the charges? |
| 04:32.28 | Resinate | dunno |
| 04:32.33 | Resinate | look under abilities |
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| 04:38.53 | RedWraith | hey guys |
| 04:38.55 | RedWraith | Who needs help? |
| 04:39.15 | rooj | i think i ama ctually gonna work on my map now |
| 04:39.17 | rooj | its been like 4 days |
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| 04:39.33 | RedWraith | no you wont rooj |
| 04:39.40 | RedWraith | You'll stay here and get nothing accomplished. |
| 04:39.52 | rooj | typical day :P |
| 04:40.32 | Resinate | u know what i never get done |
| 04:40.36 | Resinate | getting my ass a gf |
| 04:40.47 | Resinate | now thats a normal day lol |
| 04:40.55 | Resinate | being lazy is just the binus |
| 04:40.58 | Resinate | bonus |
| 04:41.09 | Nash|327 | your ass needs a girlfriend? |
| 04:41.17 | Resinate | lol |
| 04:41.22 | Resinate | that sound funny |
| 04:41.28 | Nash|327 | it is lonely? |
| 04:41.38 | Resinate | its crying EAT ME |
| 04:41.45 | Resinate | literly |
| 04:42.10 | Resinate | sometimes it sticks it tongue out |
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| 04:43.08 | rooj | i'll be your ass's girlfriend |
| 04:43.45 | Nash|327 | my ass seems content with just pooping |
| 04:45.15 | RaydenUni | so question about team setup and lobbies and variants |
| 04:45.22 | Nash|327 | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 04:45.23 | RaydenUni | if i'm setting game variants, do i need to set player properties? |
| 04:45.50 | Motive | yes |
| 04:46.03 | RaydenUni | becaue variants already sets ai/player, color |
| 04:46.15 | Nash|327 | race? |
| 04:46.19 | RaydenUni | yes |
| 04:46.26 | rooj | did WC3 use heros in melee? |
| 04:46.29 | RaydenUni | yes |
| 04:46.56 | Nash|327 | revivable heroes |
| 04:47.03 | rooj | yeah |
| 04:47.06 | RaydenUni | so my question is, if i'm using variants, what do player properties do? |
| 04:47.18 | rooj | man, most people i knew that played WC3 hated heroes though |
| 04:47.30 | RaydenUni | then they hated wc3 |
| 04:47.34 | RaydenUni | because it was all about heroes |
| 04:47.44 | rooj | i liked them o_O |
| 04:47.55 | Nash|327 | Heroes were awesome! |
| 04:48.17 | Nash|327 | Thrall pewpewpew |
| 04:48.24 | Dogmai | Look at dota -_- |
| 04:48.48 | Dogmai | Dota has more players than Expansion sets sold ... says something about heroes :) |
| 04:48.57 | Motive | Lol |
| 04:49.10 | Nash|327 | There's even a song about DOTA. |
| 04:50.26 | RaydenUni | no one has anything definitive to say about player properties? |
| 04:50.41 | Nash|327 | I use both |
| 04:50.53 | RaydenUni | cause some stuff i see says don't use properties t all |
| 04:50.55 | Nash|327 | game variants tend to fuck up your publishing |
| 04:50.56 | RaydenUni | just use variants |
| 04:51.09 | Nash|327 | I use them as little as possible |
| 04:51.10 | RaydenUni | how so? |
| 04:51.21 | RaydenUni | well what i want to do can't be done with player properties |
| 04:51.27 | RaydenUni | nor with game variants for that matter it seems |
| 04:51.30 | Nash|327 | Eh, random inexplicable errors |
| 04:51.35 | RaydenUni | but since i have to use variants, just wondering why i use properties/ |
| 04:51.48 | Nash|327 | well |
| 04:52.01 | RaydenUni | or team placement |
| 04:52.04 | RaydenUni | not sure what that does |
| 04:52.17 | Nash|327 | there's a difference between global settings and specific settings |
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| 04:52.42 | Triceron | Ahoy mateys |
| 04:52.46 | Nash|327 | you could have multiple game variants and want them to share some basic settings |
| 04:52.56 | Nash|327 | which you set in player properties |
| 04:53.04 | RaydenUni | what're the placement windows for? |
| 04:53.16 | Nash|327 | I never used it |
| 04:53.56 | RaydenUni | ugh |
| 04:53.59 | RaydenUni | stupid undocumented shit |
| 04:54.33 | Motive | Let's play a game. |
| 04:54.59 | Nash|327 | Editor is not supported |
| 04:55.07 | Nash|327 | YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS |
| 04:55.17 | Motive | TERRORIST> |
| 04:55.27 | RedWraith | TERRORISTS WIN |
| 04:55.29 | RedWraith | YEAH |
| 04:55.35 | RedWraith | FUCK THE COUNTERTERRORISTS |
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| 04:56.11 | Nash|327 | Don't want to. |
| 04:56.47 | Motive | Nash|327, you are under arrest. You have the right to remain silent, but you probably won't, or we'll trick you because you're stupid. Anything you say can and will be taken out of context and twisted and used against you in a court of law, and the court of public opinion. You have the right to speak to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorny, we'll give you purl. |
| 04:56.57 | Motive | ~say sup |
| 04:56.58 | purl | sup |
| 04:57.02 | Motive | ;D |
| 04:57.22 | Nash|327 | ... |
| 04:57.33 | Nash|327 | tl;dr |
| 04:57.36 | Motive | xD |
| 04:57.37 | rooj | now we have to build a jail map to put him in |
| 04:57.52 | rooj | redwraith you were right |
| 04:57.56 | rooj | i havent done shit but sit here |
| 04:58.08 | Nash|327 | yay |
| 04:58.29 | Nash|327 | I used to work on my map instead of sleeping |
| 04:58.44 | Nash|327 | now I just slack off instead of sleeping |
| 04:59.08 | rooj | same |
| 04:59.12 | rooj | 8( |
| 04:59.30 | Nash|327 | I feel like it's good enough for now |
| 05:00.00 | Motive | I read that as jack off. |
| 05:00.01 | Motive | I feel bad now. |
| 05:00.08 | Nash|327 | don't have anyone to publish it for me so right now there's nothing to do |
| 05:00.28 | Nash|327 | I'm just taking a break before starting on 3.0 |
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| 05:02.01 | Saucy | Hey fellers! |
| 05:02.05 | Saucy | Sex with me? |
| 05:02.12 | rooj | <--- |
| 05:02.17 | Nash|327 | no |
| 05:02.25 | Saucy | D: you break my heart. |
| 05:02.38 | Motive | Lol |
| 05:02.44 | Nash|327 | Random. |
| 05:03.15 | Demo | what should I save an image as for import into the editor? |
| 05:03.20 | Nash|327 | Don't ask asexuals to have sex with you if you are sensitive ;G |
| 05:03.28 | Demo | jpg tga png what :) |
| 05:03.38 | Nash|327 | I found tga worked best |
| 05:03.49 | Demo | I figured, thank you |
| 05:04.22 | Nash|327 | IIRC you can import JPG, but gets kinda messy. |
| 05:05.08 | RaydenUni | what does start location do? |
| 05:05.33 | RaydenUni | because i set start location for a player, but the camera starts somewhere else |
| 05:05.33 | Nash|327 | it does fuck-all if you aren't making a melee map |
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| 05:05.50 | RaydenUni | do i need to start camera location via triggers? |
| 05:06.00 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 05:06.32 | Nash|327 | I just created a Camera |
| 05:06.44 | Nash|327 | and used triggers to set that Camera for all players |
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| 05:08.43 | RaydenUni | how do you move a camera? |
| 05:08.47 | RaydenUni | it's not look at is it? |
| 05:08.54 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 05:08.58 | RaydenUni | that doesn't change eye position |
| 05:09.24 | Demo | apply camera object |
| 05:09.32 | Demo | perhaps? |
| 05:10.20 | RaydenUni | nope |
| 05:10.23 | Triceron | .dds is best if you know how to use .dds |
| 05:10.28 | Triceron | if not, stick to .tga |
| 05:11.17 | RaydenUni | huh? |
| 05:17.41 | LordAbyss | ~purl |
| 05:17.41 | purl | purl is, like, a piece of very bad coding. |
| 05:17.46 | LordAbyss | ~seen prozaicmuze |
| 05:17.54 | purl | prozaicmuze is currently on #sc2mapster (2d 16m 59s). Has said a total of 245 messages. Is idling for 1d 46m 38s, last said: 'Credit Cards are lame anyways'. |
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| 05:19.42 | Nash|327 | pewpewpew |
| 05:19.52 | Nash|327 | Euro people are waking up |
| 05:21.15 | Nash|327 | I have to be at school in 2½ hours |
| 05:21.24 | ReckeD | Whats a good program for recording demos for shit? |
| 05:21.51 | Nash|327 | demos for shit? |
| 05:21.57 | ReckeD | yes |
| 05:22.05 | ReckeD | demo of my map |
| 05:22.11 | Nash|327 | Fraps? |
| 05:22.40 | ReckeD | does fraps still have that 30 second cap? |
| 05:22.46 | ReckeD | unless you buy it i mean |
| 05:24.28 | Impaler | I'm getting closer to what I need with regard to animation controls |
| 05:24.46 | Impaler | I want to Trigger an animation change when an Ability Cooldown is completed |
| 05:25.00 | Impaler | Anyone know how something like that could be done? |
| 05:26.24 | Impaler | I've found the Ability class triggers and their are options for starting, selecting and targeting but nothing I can see with regard to Cooldown periods ending |
| 05:26.29 | Nash|327 | Buy it? D_D |
| 05:28.52 | Nash|327 | Impaler: maybe actors is the way to go? |
| 05:30.28 | Nash|327 | I don't know what kind of events there are for actors and ability |
| 05:30.45 | Nash|327 | but there are certainly more events in general |
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| 05:35.44 | Impaler | I am working with the Actor, it has a whole long list of triggerd changes to its animations such as the use of abilites |
| 05:36.40 | Impaler | I'm modify Creep Tumor to toggle its state when a new Tumor can be spawned (which is now unlimited but on long cooldown) |
| 05:42.34 | Nash|327 | Creep Tumors sound very unhealthy |
| 05:43.42 | rooj | lol |
| 05:43.58 | rooj | so, i'm still failing at 1st person RTS mode |
| 05:46.44 | Resinate | lol |
| 05:46.47 | Resinate | its ez |
| 05:46.50 | Resinate | i alrdy made it |
| 05:46.59 | Resinate | u need to pan the camera on last created unit |
| 05:47.02 | Resinate | and lock it |
| 05:47.37 | Resinate | dop u understand what im saying |
| 05:47.44 | Resinate | also set the distance to 10 |
| 05:47.46 | Resinate | or lower |
| 05:47.54 | Resinate | and pitch of < 20 |
| 05:48.09 | Resinate | aka field of attack |
| 05:50.30 | rooj | sorry was messing with it |
| 05:51.53 | rooj | i have: |
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| 05:52.08 | rooj | angle: field of view set to 27 |
| 05:52.44 | rooj | distance: 1 |
| 05:52.59 | rooj | pitch: 0 |
| 05:54.23 | Rayden | sc2 infuraties me right now |
| 05:54.24 | Rayden | grr |
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| 05:59.04 | Nash|327 | RAGEQUIT |
| 05:59.47 | Resinate | WOW |
| 05:59.52 | Resinate | that act on tv was INSNAE |
| 06:00.00 | Resinate | the fighting gravity group lol |
| 06:00.26 | Nash|327 | INSNAE! |
| 06:00.26 | rooj | resinate |
| 06:00.33 | Resinate | ? |
| 06:00.38 | rooj | i think the #s you gave me were for 3rd person camera |
| 06:01.00 | Nash|327 | 2nd person ftw |
| 06:01.10 | rooj | NO SUCH THING |
| 06:01.27 | Nash|327 | lies |
| 06:01.36 | rooj | shakes fist |
| 06:01.58 | Resinate | u cant excatly do REAL fps |
| 06:02.05 | Resinate | its always gonna be 3rd person |
| 06:02.34 | rooj | ? |
| 06:03.16 | Resinate | seriously |
| 06:03.19 | Resinate | look at all the videos |
| 06:03.19 | Nash|327 | 6th person plzkthx |
| 06:03.24 | Resinate | there all 3rd person |
| 06:03.26 | Nash|327 | quantum grammar |
| 06:03.43 | currydevil | is it possible to use a queue for building multiple structures like you can for training? (without using shift to manaually set a queue) |
| 06:03.47 | rooj | ive used a 1st person engine |
| 06:03.55 | rooj | theres just things i dont like about it |
| 06:04.11 | Nash|327 | buildings have to be placed though |
| 06:04.24 | currydevil | mhm |
| 06:04.36 | Tempus35 | You know making so there is an effect that appears on a unit is annoying as hell |
| 06:04.42 | Zarafu | sup guys |
| 06:04.48 | ReckeD | zzz nothings ever easy is it |
| 06:04.50 | currydevil | well, as it is atm, i can queue up 2... the unit builds one and i can set another to be built, but it can't handle more than that |
| 06:05.11 | Nash|327 | how would the game determine where you want the bulding if you just told it to build X buildings :G |
| 06:05.23 | rooj | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFHaGzTflkc |
| 06:05.27 | currydevil | you can do it manaully with shift.... |
| 06:05.39 | currydevil | what I want to do is the same thing, but without having to hold shift. |
| 06:06.24 | currydevil | as in, when I tell it to build here, it will start building, then let me queue up multiple builds (one at a time while telling it where to build) |
| 06:06.26 | ReckeD | issue order to a unit after previous orders? |
| 06:06.58 | ReckeD | and just use random point in region for placement |
| 06:07.04 | Nash|327 | seems like a lot of work to not have to hold down shift? |
| 06:07.04 | currydevil | i suppose, I can forgo it. just a extra touch if it's possible. though I was hoping to use the data editor queue or something |
| 06:07.05 | ReckeD | or an offset from point |
| 06:07.56 | Zarafu | hey rooj, did you make that video? |
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| 06:08.24 | rooj | no zarafu |
| 06:08.31 | Nash|327 | I don't know why people spend so much time turning SC2 into a completely different game. |
| 06:08.37 | rooj | was just showing that 1st person mode already exists |
| 06:08.41 | Resinate | lol |
| 06:08.43 | Resinate | rooj |
| 06:08.49 | Resinate | sc2 will change how gaming works |
| 06:08.55 | Resinate | u got WoW |
| 06:08.58 | Resinate | and theres sc2 |
| 06:09.04 | Resinate | w/e u cant do in wow u can do in sc2 LOL |
| 06:09.04 | Nash|327 | At some point wouldn't it just make sense to make your own game? |
| 06:09.11 | Southpaw | anyone interested in testing right now? |
| 06:09.22 | Resinate | i wanna testing a body part with a girl |
| 06:09.26 | Resinate | test* |
| 06:09.27 | Southpaw | lol |
| 06:09.34 | currydevil | sure, what am i testing Southpaw? |
| 06:09.34 | rooj | as long as it takes to make a little rinky dink map, i sure as hell dont want to make a whole game |
| 06:09.36 | Resinate | just wanna see how well it perfroms |
| 06:09.42 | Nash|327 | Bah. |
| 06:09.44 | Southpaw | i have a PvP map |
| 06:09.49 | Nash|327 | I didn't test mine. |
| 06:09.51 | Resinate | i pvp with my girl |
| 06:09.51 | Southpaw | similar to WoW |
| 06:09.51 | Resinate | XD |
| 06:09.57 | Resinate | i pwn her ever time |
| 06:10.00 | Nash|327 | Performance is irrelevant! |
| 06:10.01 | currydevil | ok |
| 06:10.02 | Southpaw | like Arathi Basin or Eye of the Storm |
| 06:10.07 | currydevil | US? |
| 06:10.10 | Resinate | what do u expect |
| 06:10.11 | Southpaw | yeah |
| 06:10.13 | currydevil | kk |
| 06:10.13 | Resinate | im lvl 80 and lvl 25 |
| 06:10.19 | Resinate | shes lvl 25* |
| 06:10.24 | currydevil | magnade.936 |
| 06:10.27 | Southpaw | add me....npechal@gmail,com |
| 06:10.34 | Southpaw | .com |
| 06:10.35 | currydevil | ok |
| 06:10.41 | Resinate | gmail = gay mail? |
| 06:10.52 | Nash|327 | OH HOW WITTY |
| 06:10.56 | Resinate | lol |
| 06:11.01 | HeyRevolver | whats google? |
| 06:11.04 | Nash|327 | LIKE, IT STARTS WITH A G |
| 06:11.08 | currydevil | lawl |
| 06:11.08 | HeyRevolver | I hear people talking about it but like what is it |
| 06:11.10 | Resinate | u know if u were a magic card i would tap u |
| 06:11.10 | Nash|327 | THUS IT MUST BE GAY |
| 06:11.13 | RazielZ | Olol. |
| 06:11.28 | RazielZ | Great. Gay Reat! |
| 06:11.29 | Resinate | if u were mana i would burn u |
| 06:11.32 | Southpaw | so is anyone interested in testing? |
| 06:11.48 | ReckeD | southpaw, what region? |
| 06:11.56 | Resinate | if u were a taco i would pack so much beef in u |
| 06:12.11 | Southpaw | EU |
| 06:12.18 | ReckeD | boo |
| 06:12.21 | Nash|327 | Talking about sex on IRC doesn't make you cool. |
| 06:12.22 | ReckeD | i need testers on SEA |
| 06:12.27 | Resinate | EU = extra circumsized |
| 06:12.35 | Zarafu | O_o |
| 06:12.39 | Nash|327 | But then neither does having sex. |
| 06:12.47 | currydevil | oh you're EU Southpaw? |
| 06:12.49 | Southpaw | circumsized doesnt start with a U |
| 06:12.52 | ReckeD | anyone keen on doing some testing on the SEA servers? |
| 06:12.56 | currydevil | i'm US ... |
| 06:12.58 | currydevil | sorry :( |
| 06:12.58 | Resinate | XD |
| 06:13.08 | Nash|327 | But at least having sex is less spammy :G |
| 06:13.09 | Resinate | blah |
| 06:13.14 | Southpaw | oops, i meant US |
| 06:13.17 | Southpaw | lol |
| 06:13.19 | currydevil | lol |
| 06:13.20 | currydevil | ok |
| 06:13.25 | HeyRevolver | Youre having the wrong kind of sex nash |
| 06:13.25 | Resinate | i hard the german girls give it up just walking by them |
| 06:13.30 | Southpaw | i need lik 10 people |
| 06:13.34 | currydevil | sent my request btw. |
| 06:13.34 | Southpaw | like* |
| 06:13.40 | Nash|327 | I'm not having any kind of sex at all. |
| 06:13.41 | Southpaw | its 7v7 |
| 06:13.49 | HeyRevolver | oh |
| 06:13.50 | Resinate | me and my gf like doing 3v3 |
| 06:13.55 | Southpaw | have a couple friends waiting |
| 06:14.10 | Resinate | if u were a speaker i would turn u up |
| 06:14.14 | ReckeD | lol@7v7 |
| 06:14.18 | Southpaw | when you say girlfriend, do you mean the peice of rabbit fur you rub on your dick every night? |
| 06:14.24 | ReckeD | can the servers even handle 7v7? |
| 06:14.27 | Resinate | nah |
| 06:14.38 | Resinate | that rabbit fur u talking about is her being unshaved |
| 06:14.50 | HeyRevolver | its unshaven |
| 06:14.55 | Zarafu | lol |
| 06:14.59 | Southpaw | thats what the testing process is for, SotIS is 5v5 |
| 06:15.35 | Resinate | anyhone wanna play kaoitc arena |
| 06:15.40 | Resinate | kinda boired |
| 06:15.46 | Nash|327 | I find that people who talk excessively about something on IRC do so because IRL everyone would know they are full of crap. |
| 06:15.53 | RazielZ | What's a kaotic arena |
| 06:16.12 | Resinate | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yenuvSUKugc&p=4C6E497F55F077DB&playnext=1&index=68 |
| 06:16.14 | RazielZ | I talk excessively about not finding answers to my mapping questions |
| 06:16.15 | Resinate | I LOVE THIS VIDEO |
| 06:16.33 | RazielZ | What's a gayco? |
| 06:16.44 | Resinate | raz go play maple |
| 06:16.53 | Southpaw | yeah, this isnt very productive for a mapping community IRC |
| 06:17.05 | Nash|327 | not at the moment |
| 06:17.12 | Southpaw | apparantley |
| 06:17.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster Xenothral (~chatzilla@c-71-193-244-3.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 06:17.21 | Xenothral | Hey everyone |
| 06:17.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Leaderboard (5bb4750a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.117.10) |
| 06:17.33 | Leaderboard | hi ! |
| 06:17.41 | Resinate | HI LEADER BOARD |
| 06:17.45 | RazielZ | I don't want to play maple :< |
| 06:17.45 | Xenothral | Anyone seen this billboard yet? http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6387/worstbeerintheuniverse.png |
| 06:17.45 | Leaderboard | ;o |
| 06:17.55 | Resinate | raz |
| 06:17.59 | Resinate | u really played maple |
| 06:18.02 | Resinate | few yrs back |
| 06:18.06 | Leaderboard | never |
| 06:18.10 | Nash|327 | Think it's a bad time, NA people went to sleep, EU people didn't get up yet. |
| 06:18.11 | Resinate | asking raz lol |
| 06:18.26 | Leaderboard | Eh, Nash, i'm here :D |
| 06:18.31 | currydevil | i'm not asleep yet Nash .. it's only 11pm in NA =P |
| 06:18.34 | jorgenpt | :-) |
| 06:18.37 | jorgenpt | Depends on what part of NA |
| 06:18.39 | jorgenpt | (the good part of NA) |
| 06:18.42 | Resinate | curry what state? |
| 06:18.44 | RazielZ | Yeah I did |
| 06:18.46 | currydevil | OR |
| 06:18.48 | Leaderboard | "Only" 11pm ? go to sleep :D |
| 06:18.51 | Xenothral | Hey same here Curry |
| 06:18.51 | currydevil | lawl |
| 06:18.52 | Resinate | raz pm me |
| 06:18.53 | jorgenpt | CA ftw :) |
| 06:18.57 | currydevil | bed time is 2 am man. |
| 06:19.06 | Xenothral | Haha I'll probably be up till around 3 |
| 06:19.06 | currydevil | where at Xeno? |
| 06:19.09 | Xenothral | Salem |
| 06:19.15 | currydevil | Ooo < tillamook |
| 06:19.20 | Leaderboard | Ok. |
| 06:19.21 | jorgenpt | Tillamook cheese! |
| 06:19.25 | currydevil | heck yeah |
| 06:19.26 | Xenothral | Delicious! |
| 06:19.35 | currydevil | I was born in cali though.. if that counts =O |
| 06:19.43 | jorgenpt | A former neighbor of mine, a hot thing from OR, swore by tillamook |
| 06:19.45 | jorgenpt | Converted me |
| 06:19.51 | currydevil | haha |
| 06:19.58 | jorgenpt | I was born in Norway, if that counts. ;-) |
| 06:19.58 | currydevil | it's good stuff, so is the ice cream |
| 06:20.03 | currydevil | haha |
| 06:20.05 | jorgenpt | Never had |
| 06:20.10 | currydevil | sure, we get a ton of foreigners here. |
| 06:20.10 | Nash|327 | it counts against you |
| 06:20.12 | Xenothral | Tillamook everything is delicious haha |
| 06:20.24 | jorgenpt | I don't think /she/ was Tillamook |
| 06:20.27 | jorgenpt | Just OR somewhere |
| 06:20.33 | currydevil | hehe |
| 06:20.59 | Xenothral | I just had to live in Salem, where nothing ever happens. Haha |
| 06:21.29 | currydevil | well, being the fact that Tillamook has the biggest store between portland and the coast, it's a huge stop over for ... everyone lol |
| 06:22.02 | jorgenpt | Nothin' ever happens |
| 06:22.06 | currydevil | lol |
| 06:22.13 | jorgenpt | ♪ and I wonder ♪ |
| 06:22.15 | currydevil | shoulda come down for the fiar a week ago |
| 06:22.20 | currydevil | fiar* |
| 06:22.24 | currydevil | fair* .. wow |
| 06:22.35 | Nash|327 | fail* |
| 06:22.43 | currydevil | yah. |
| 06:22.54 | Xenothral | I tried to get a job at the fair but apparently everyone on the planet applies |
| 06:23.01 | currydevil | lol |
| 06:23.12 | currydevil | Not I. |
| 06:23.22 | currydevil | I have my job, I like it.. no need to apply at the fair ;) |
| 06:23.43 | Nash|327 | run away and join the circus |
| 06:23.59 | Xenothral | But I still have one more year of highschool |
| 06:24.02 | currydevil | Yeah if they have an act for a nerd who plays pc games all day |
| 06:24.32 | Xenothral | I doubt anyone would be impressed by an act like that. Haha |
| 06:24.44 | currydevil | I know right, then i could play in peace all day looooong |
| 06:24.49 | Xenothral | "Hold on everyone I need to set up my desk and get my computer out here." |
| 06:24.57 | currydevil | xD |
| 06:25.09 | Nash|327 | Koreans would! |
| 06:25.16 | Zarafu | Is it possible to create actors without creating units to make it look like units are there when they actually aren't? |
| 06:25.17 | Nash|327 | If you play StarCraft all day |
| 06:25.21 | Xenothral | Haha |
| 06:25.51 | Xenothral | Zarafu I suppose you could replace a doodad's model with a unit, but I dunno how well that'd work. |
| 06:26.04 | currydevil | like a hallucination? |
| 06:26.15 | Zarafu | well I want to create lots of civilians for my cinematic, but lots of civilians lag a lot |
| 06:26.17 | Resinate | i made the coolest style of RTS |
| 06:26.21 | Resinate | modding 1 skill LOL |
| 06:26.26 | Xenothral | xD |
| 06:26.31 | Resinate | i changed how recall works |
| 06:26.44 | Resinate | so u can recall urs, allies and enemies |
| 06:26.49 | Xenothral | Uh oh |
| 06:26.50 | Resinate | doesnt effect buildings |
| 06:26.54 | Xenothral | Aww |
| 06:27.02 | Resinate | i thinks its a cool system |
| 06:27.05 | currydevil | drop em off a cliff? |
| 06:27.10 | Xenothral | Just recall a giant bubble of cannons xD |
| 06:27.11 | Resinate | cuz u can warp armies into ur defense |
| 06:27.17 | Resinate | i do that to ppl |
| 06:27.18 | Resinate | to win |
| 06:27.21 | Xenothral | Can you make it recall buildings? |
| 06:27.25 | Resinate | this move i did stop stuff like that |
| 06:27.27 | Resinate | no |
| 06:27.32 | Resinate | i recall seige cannons |
| 06:27.36 | Xenothral | Haha |
| 06:27.48 | Resinate | but nme now can warp them out |
| 06:27.51 | Zarafu | anyone know a way that I can do this without the lag? |
| 06:28.04 | Resinate | ? |
| 06:28.07 | Resinate | get abetter pc? |
| 06:28.22 | currydevil | hallucinate them? or those lag too? lol |
| 06:28.54 | Nash|327 | cinematic? |
| 06:29.34 | Xenothral | How many civilians are you planning to have? I barely get any lag with about 450 infested civilians attacking in my map :P |
| 06:29.54 | Resinate | hes prob remaking 911 |
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| 06:30.07 | Resinate | u need 1000+ units for that |
| 06:30.19 | pkol | hey curse people, what would i need to do for a cata beta key? :p |
| 06:30.21 | Xenothral | Haha |
| 06:30.30 | Resinate | pre order the game? |
| 06:30.42 | Zarafu | well, I only have maybe 200 civilians in the scene |
| 06:30.48 | Nash|327 | send $1000 to Nigeria |
| 06:30.51 | Zarafu | but it chops and lags a LOT when I try to create a video |
| 06:30.53 | Xenothral | I remember my brother remaking 911 in SC 1 |
| 06:30.57 | Southpaw | testies testies, one...two... |
| 06:31.11 | onetwo | just finished campaign... |
| 06:31.24 | onetwo | i feel like i know its good but i didnt enjoy it the same as war3 |
| 06:31.39 | Southpaw | yeah, i got bored with it |
| 06:31.46 | Nash|327 | you're creating a cinematic video using the game? |
| 06:31.46 | Southpaw | havent finished it |
| 06:32.03 | onetwo | the ending cinematic was good, but when i think back to watching medivh in the last cine of war3 |
| 06:32.04 | Resinate | onetwn |
| 06:32.08 | Resinate | onetwo |
| 06:32.10 | onetwo | i think that was a lot more amazing |
| 06:32.13 | Resinate | what lvl is the viking boss right? |
| 06:32.32 | onetwo | i think the other thing is sc2 feels too simple... after playing war3 with heroes, items, etc |
| 06:32.45 | onetwo | i feel like a kid with a hero who doesnt level and has 1 ability called penetrator round |
| 06:32.50 | Resinate | well sc2 wasnt made for 1 pl |
| 06:33.06 | Resinate | that why story was soo shitty |
| 06:33.10 | Resinate | it was all about the editor |
| 06:33.17 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:33.20 | Resinate | notice how much work they spent on editor |
| 06:33.33 | Resinate | the game itself is like an empty shell |
| 06:33.42 | onetwo | and rofl after watching so many ingame cines, when you see the full-on ones that didnt use sc2 engine |
| 06:33.45 | Resinate | they even said that at blizzcon lol |
| 06:33.45 | onetwo | its a world of difference haah |
| 06:34.05 | Xenothral | I miss the pre-rendered cinematics. |
| 06:34.23 | Nash|327 | Heart of the Swarm plzkthx |
| 06:34.30 | Nash|327 | level up Kerrigan |
| 06:34.55 | onetwo | i guess the other thing is i appreciate the warcraft lore more |
| 06:35.09 | Resinate | ROFL!! |
| 06:35.14 | Xenothral | I really just want the other two SC2 games for more units to mess around with in the editor. |
| 06:35.16 | Resinate | i have 5.6 days worth of music on my IPOD |
| 06:35.19 | onetwo | true |
| 06:35.25 | Resinate | other 2 games? |
| 06:35.29 | Resinate | what games? |
| 06:35.44 | Xenothral | Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void |
| 06:35.51 | Xenothral | I think it's Legacy of the Void anyway. |
| 06:35.57 | Resinate | they come out same time? |
| 06:36.04 | HeyRevolver | who's runnig who, what should we do? you know you cant be a pimp and a prostitute too. |
| 06:36.05 | Xenothral | They better not |
| 06:36.13 | Resinate | hey |
| 06:36.15 | Resinate | i do both |
| 06:36.18 | Xenothral | Haha |
| 06:36.20 | HeyRevolver | no sorry |
| 06:36.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zaratulius (594fa4e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.79.164.233) |
| 06:36.24 | HeyRevolver | jack white says you cant |
| 06:36.25 | HeyRevolver | so you cant |
| 06:36.32 | Resinate | bitch i am white |
| 06:36.33 | Resinate | AHAH |
| 06:36.37 | HeyRevolver | um |
| 06:36.39 | HeyRevolver | your jokes |
| 06:36.40 | HeyRevolver | fail |
| 06:36.44 | Resinate | so does ur mom |
| 06:36.48 | HeyRevolver | once again |
| 06:36.50 | HeyRevolver | your jokes |
| 06:36.50 | HeyRevolver | fail |
| 06:36.51 | Resinate | she feel off the bed |
| 06:36.58 | Xenothral | Gross. |
| 06:37.21 | HeyRevolver | but I still <3 you |
| 06:37.28 | Nash|327 | I don't. |
| 06:37.35 | Resinate | ur mom is soo ugly she broke up a roit just walking down the road |
| 06:37.35 | Xenothral | Ouch. |
| 06:37.51 | Resinate | lol jk |
| 06:38.02 | Xenothral | In before yo mommaship? |
| 06:38.03 | HeyRevolver | your mom is so ugly when this one guy looked at her he was like man she is so ugly and fell over an dhit his face |
| 06:38.25 | Resinate | lol |
| 06:38.26 | HeyRevolver | Protoss has mommaship. |
| 06:38.27 | Nash|327 | Whoever said sarcasm is the lowest form of wit hadn't heard your mom jokes. |
| 06:38.27 | Resinate | fail |
| 06:38.37 | Xenothral | Yeah? Well my dad can beat up your dad. /2nd grade |
| 06:38.38 | Resinate | ur mom is so ugly she made zerg look hawt |
| 06:38.50 | HeyRevolver | your mom is so ugly at least i'm not poohunter |
| 06:38.57 | Resinate | what |
| 06:39.05 | Resinate | face palm |
| 06:39.14 | *** join/#sc2mapster Twiner (~Twiner@c-24-63-105-149.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 06:39.20 | HeyRevolver | you dont know bout poohunter? |
| 06:39.26 | Xenothral | I do not. |
| 06:39.41 | Resinate | ur momma so fat i asked her to play twiser and she spun around and made a tornado |
| 06:39.57 | Resinate | twister* |
| 06:40.10 | HeyRevolver | your momma is so dumb i asked her what the equator was and she said her belt |
| 06:40.19 | pkol | ur mooma so far she downloaded cheats for wii fit? |
| 06:40.28 | Resinate | thats good |
| 06:40.28 | rooj | HAhahhahaha |
| 06:40.31 | rooj | ahahahhaa |
| 06:40.42 | Nash|327 | Well I guess I won't be missing much of note while I'm at school. |
| 06:40.59 | HeyRevolver | Nash dont forget your suinglasses |
| 06:41.04 | HeyRevolver | you have to look cool for the ladies |
| 06:41.14 | Nash|327 | I don't care about the ladies. |
| 06:41.19 | Resinate | ur momma is so fat that the mothership cant cloak her |
| 06:41.21 | HeyRevolver | oh youre into dudes? |
| 06:41.23 | HeyRevolver | thats cool. |
| 06:41.24 | Nash|327 | No. |
| 06:41.41 | Nash|327 | I am asexual. |
| 06:41.45 | HeyRevolver | sure |
| 06:41.46 | Resinate | ur momma is so dumb she nuked her own base |
| 06:41.48 | HeyRevolver | keep telling yourself that |
| 06:41.52 | Ekals | Nash is in denial |
| 06:41.58 | Resinate | ok im done |
| 06:42.01 | rooj | youre asexual BEAST |
| 06:42.01 | Resinate | i needa test my map |
| 06:42.02 | HeyRevolver | one day when you find yourself in a ball on the ground crying wondering why |
| 06:42.04 | Resinate | guys |
| 06:42.07 | Resinate | whats asexual? |
| 06:42.09 | Nash|327 | Which means I don't need to give a shit about people's opinions since I don't need them to find me attractive ;G |
| 06:42.11 | Ekals | asexual = can't get laid |
| 06:42.17 | HeyRevolver | no nash |
| 06:42.18 | Resinate | THATS ME |
| 06:42.19 | Ekals | because you stay at home playing SC2 all day |
| 06:42.21 | HeyRevolver | it means you jack off too much |
| 06:42.24 | Resinate | THATS ME AGAIN |
| 06:42.29 | Resinate | manu guys good |
| 06:42.32 | Resinate | 3/3 |
| 06:42.38 | rooj | southpaw, do you still need a tester? |
| 06:42.39 | Xenothral | Nash reproduces via mitosis. |
| 06:42.44 | HeyRevolver | miosis |
| 06:42.57 | Nash|327 | Ew, reproduction. |
| 06:43.06 | Xenothral | Right? I hate children. |
| 06:43.08 | HeyRevolver | yeh nash is definitely into dudes |
| 06:43.11 | rooj | i got myxamitosis, i got myxamitosis |
| 06:43.19 | Ekals | I'm into dudes, what do I win? |
| 06:43.23 | Nash|327 | Children are fucking annoying. |
| 06:43.25 | HeyRevolver | nash |
| 06:43.25 | Ekals | Nash we can hang out :3 |
| 06:43.30 | rooj | hot |
| 06:43.32 | HeyRevolver | you win nash with his pants down |
| 06:43.41 | Leaderboard | Nash|327 |
| 06:43.42 | Xenothral | All children do is whine. |
| 06:43.52 | HeyRevolver | wrong |
| 06:43.52 | rooj | only if the parents SUCK |
| 06:43.53 | Nash|327 | What Leaderboard? |
| 06:43.57 | Leaderboard | I'm a children |
| 06:43.59 | Leaderboard | :). |
| 06:44.02 | Leaderboard | Wut ? |
| 06:44.08 | Xenothral | Then my sister must fucking suck at parenting |
| 06:44.15 | rooj | she does |
| 06:44.16 | rooj | and |
| 06:44.16 | HeyRevolver | yeah probably |
| 06:44.18 | Leaderboard | You sure about that ? |
| 06:44.28 | Xenothral | Well, she has seven children. |
| 06:44.33 | rooj | yep |
| 06:44.38 | Leaderboard | yep. |
| 06:44.40 | rooj | i forgot what i was going to say |
| 06:44.44 | HeyRevolver | seven? |
| 06:44.44 | HeyRevolver | damn |
| 06:44.46 | Xenothral | Seven |
| 06:44.51 | HeyRevolver | she cant keep her legs closed can she |
| 06:44.52 | rooj | oh yeah |
| 06:44.53 | Nash|327 | 0 ftw |
| 06:44.54 | Xenothral | And the oldest is 15. |
| 06:44.56 | rooj | and tbh |
| 06:45.04 | rooj | theres quite a few adults who whine more than children do ;x |
| 06:45.11 | HeyRevolver | do her a favor and tell her about birth control |
| 06:45.21 | Leaderboard | birth what ? |
| 06:45.27 | HeyRevolver | patrol |
| 06:45.28 | rooj | birth cunt roll |
| 06:45.29 | Xenothral | Bullets. |
| 06:45.35 | HeyRevolver | birth patrol |
| 06:45.39 | HeyRevolver | its these guys |
| 06:45.41 | rooj | for people that live in the cunt tree |
| 06:45.57 | HeyRevolver | rilo on the cleveland show |
| 06:45.58 | HeyRevolver | he know |
| 06:46.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster goomba_ (~goomba_@adsl-232-3-199.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 06:46.30 | HeyRevolver | oh good goomba is here |
| 06:46.51 | rooj | throws a turtle shell at goomba |
| 06:46.56 | Xenothral | Does this mean people will start acting civilized again? |
| 06:47.04 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 06:47.08 | HeyRevolver | why would we do that? |
| 06:47.22 | HeyRevolver | this is the internet |
| 06:47.26 | rooj | FF14 open beta DELAYED |
| 06:47.26 | HeyRevolver | RL is that way ----> |
| 06:47.35 | Nash|327 | Could at least act like you have an IQ above 90. |
| 06:47.37 | Xenothral | Yeah I know |
| 06:47.46 | HeyRevolver | lol nash |
| 06:47.52 | HeyRevolver | poor poor nash |
| 06:48.02 | rooj | Imaginary Queer |
| 06:48.02 | HeyRevolver | i know all my jokes go over your head, but you dont need to insult yourself |
| 06:48.14 | rooj | Important Question |
| 06:48.23 | Xenothral | I think I agree with Nash though. Everyone is acting like they're about 10 years old. |
| 06:48.34 | HeyRevolver | again |
| 06:48.36 | HeyRevolver | welcome to the internet |
| 06:48.39 | RazielZ | Could anyone point me to a turret taht rotates to face the enemy? I tried auto turret (on a building that has a marine model) but it doesn't rotate |
| 06:48.58 | Xenothral | I think there's a tutorial on how to do that somewhere. |
| 06:48.59 | Nash|327 | HeyRevolver just did the "I know you are, but what am I?", only in different words, so yeah, 10 years old sounds about right. |
| 06:49.14 | HeyRevolver | huh? |
| 06:49.21 | Xenothral | Exactly. |
| 06:49.28 | HeyRevolver | I'm confused are you trying to sound smart? |
| 06:49.41 | rooj | i'm jealous |
| 06:49.43 | Xenothral | If you're confused I suppose mission successful. |
| 06:49.44 | Resinate | WOW my test worked |
| 06:49.45 | rooj | i want to be 10 years old |
| 06:49.56 | Xenothral | Test? |
| 06:49.59 | HeyRevolver | Xeno i havent even been talking to you lol |
| 06:49.59 | Resinate | yea |
| 06:50.06 | Resinate | theres 4 ppl |
| 06:50.12 | Resinate | each has a merc compound base |
| 06:50.20 | Resinate | i made it run a single trigger |
| 06:50.32 | Resinate | to check when theres only 1 left |
| 06:50.37 | Resinate | owner of that one wins |
| 06:50.41 | Resinate | others loose |
| 06:50.54 | Nash|327 | Some people seem to take being on the Internet as a reason to ignore any sort of behavioral codes or just plain coherency or intelligence. |
| 06:51.03 | Xenothral | RazielZ, is this what you're looking for how to do? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/8926-data-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty/#posts |
| 06:51.39 | HeyRevolver | Ok Nash thank you for that comment on the early days of the internet |
| 06:51.54 | HeyRevolver | good reminder |
| 06:52.12 | rooj | i cant tell if there is sarcasm or not |
| 06:52.13 | rooj | lol |
| 06:52.44 | HeyRevolver | i got one i got one |
| 06:53.05 | HeyRevolver | ohh i lost it |
| 06:53.08 | Resinate | i remember when 56k was OMG SO FAST |
| 06:53.17 | Xenothral | Oh god 56k |
| 06:53.20 | HeyRevolver | 1 meg a minute was baller |
| 06:53.22 | rooj | never |
| 06:53.23 | rooj | say that word |
| 06:53.24 | rooj | again |
| 06:53.32 | HeyRevolver | baller? |
| 06:53.32 | Resinate | lol |
| 06:53.45 | Xenothral | Hey guys remember Netscape? |
| 06:53.48 | Resinate | HAHA |
| 06:53.58 | HeyRevolver | yes, I had the version that came on like 30 floppies |
| 06:54.01 | HeyRevolver | that was so awesome |
| 06:54.06 | Resinate | i remember when i was on the net and ppl got mad cuz they couldnt call |
| 06:54.11 | rooj | AOL |
| 06:54.19 | HeyRevolver | compuserve |
| 06:54.25 | Nash|327 | I played StarCraft for 9 hours on dial-up. |
| 06:54.29 | Resinate | costco had free 56k |
| 06:54.31 | rooj | keyword: ANTagonist |
| 06:54.48 | Resinate | my friend in 3 years |
| 06:54.57 | Resinate | put 10,000 hours of game on 1 space game |
| 06:55.14 | Resinate | and he didnt have highest either |
| 06:55.34 | Xenothral | Does anyone else still play Commander Keen? |
| 06:55.38 | Xenothral | Or is that just me? |
| 06:55.45 | Nash|327 | Still? |
| 06:55.48 | Nash|327 | Never did. |
| 06:55.55 | Resinate | month ago i was pounding out speed runs on ff8 |
| 06:55.58 | Xenothral | I replay it every once and a while |
| 06:55.58 | Nash|327 | I've never even seen it. |
| 06:56.14 | rooj | thats my favorite ff |
| 06:56.16 | rooj | besides ff5 |
| 06:56.19 | Xenothral | I remember sneaking a floppy disk into my schools computer room and installing it on all of the computers |
| 06:56.19 | Resinate | rinoa + irvine combo epic win |
| 06:56.27 | Resinate | for low lvl run |
| 06:56.42 | Resinate | irvine can down any boss in 1 atk |
| 06:56.47 | Resinate | and rinoa for AOE |
| 06:57.00 | Resinate | and auto attack lol |
| 06:57.08 | Resinate | i did the ultimate challange tho |
| 06:57.12 | Xenothral | I also still replay Mega Man X every now and again. |
| 06:57.15 | Resinate | i made it from disc 1 to disc 4 |
| 06:57.22 | Resinate | using ONLY all trade rule |
| 06:57.34 | Resinate | for cards |
| 06:57.45 | Resinate | man u can farm like 1000+ cards per hour with that rule |
| 06:57.48 | Resinate | right at the start |
| 06:58.38 | Nash|327 | oldest game I would consider playing would have to be WarCraft 2 |
| 06:58.54 | Xenothral | I still have that somewhere. |
| 06:59.00 | Resinate | can u import models from wc3 to sc2? |
| 06:59.01 | Nash|327 | I have the box. |
| 06:59.07 | Xenothral | Nice! |
| 06:59.16 | Nash|327 | I have all my boxes. |
| 06:59.31 | Resinate | u know that ff7-9 is valued at over 100$ now |
| 06:59.38 | Xenothral | I'm not sure what year it came out exactly, but Tyrian was and still is badass. |
| 06:59.42 | Resinate | no game store will trade them in |
| 06:59.53 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 06:59.58 | Xenothral | Are you talking about all 3 together Resinate? |
| 06:59.58 | Resinate | cuz they wont pay the value of them LOL |
| 07:00.00 | Resinate | no |
| 07:00.01 | Resinate | each |
| 07:00.05 | Resinate | ff7 is worth the most |
| 07:00.06 | HeyRevolver | thats wrng man |
| 07:00.13 | Resinate | no joke |
| 07:00.18 | Xenothral | I got a brand new FF9 for like $12 |
| 07:00.20 | HeyRevolver | yeah |
| 07:00.22 | Resinate | theyre flagged as a collectors item |
| 07:00.25 | HeyRevolver | and I got ff7 for 30 |
| 07:00.27 | rooj | i got mine for free on the internet |
| 07:00.29 | HeyRevolver | like 2 months ago |
| 07:00.37 | Resinate | i mean the old discs |
| 07:00.41 | HeyRevolver | yeah |
| 07:00.42 | HeyRevolver | me too |
| 07:00.44 | Resinate | not the green/clear one |
| 07:00.45 | HeyRevolver | this is an old copy |
| 07:00.55 | Resinate | greatest hits isnt worth as much |
| 07:00.58 | Xenothral | The backs of my disks are black. |
| 07:01.01 | HeyRevolver | its not greatest hits lol |
| 07:01.06 | rooj | whens FF7 for PS3 come out |
| 07:01.12 | Resinate | its alrdy out |
| 07:01.15 | Resinate | OH|the ps3 one |
| 07:01.30 | Resinate | the games worth the money are the white coatded ones |
| 07:01.35 | Nash|327 | I don't like Japanese games. |
| 07:01.39 | Triceron | can u import models from wc3 to sc2? - Yes you can, through 3ds max |
| 07:01.49 | Resinate | ill dl it them |
| 07:02.01 | Resinate | i want some dragones |
| 07:02.03 | Resinate | dragons |
| 07:02.08 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 07:02.16 | Xenothral | Any of you ever play Shadow of the Collosus? |
| 07:02.19 | rooj | i am playing star ocean 4 on chaos difficulty atm |
| 07:02.22 | HeyRevolver | this is sci-fi! |
| 07:02.27 | HeyRevolver | no dragons allowed! |
| 07:02.30 | Resinate | lol |
| 07:02.36 | HeyRevolver | =P |
| 07:02.36 | Nash|327 | THIS IS NOT WARCRAFT IN SPACE |
| 07:02.42 | Xenothral | Haha |
| 07:02.42 | Resinate | HAHA |
| 07:02.55 | Xenothral | Oh Starcraft Alpha build |
| 07:02.56 | Resinate | u know |
| 07:03.03 | Resinate | i wish sc2 had multi platform |
| 07:03.06 | Resinate | not 3 floors |
| 07:03.16 | Resinate | but u can warp to planets |
| 07:03.23 | Resinate | DUDE |
| 07:03.33 | Resinate | u think theyll ever make a 3d rts |
| 07:03.42 | Resinate | u know like actully use a full planet |
| 07:03.46 | Triceron | er, SC2 is a 3d rts |
| 07:03.49 | Resinate | no no |
| 07:03.52 | Resinate | i mean like 3d |
| 07:04.00 | rooj | lol |
| 07:04.00 | Resinate | like a ball |
| 07:04.02 | Triceron | ... |
| 07:04.15 | Resinate | u know what i mean |
| 07:04.18 | Triceron | what, like an MMO? |
| 07:04.20 | Resinate | no |
| 07:04.24 | Resinate | instead of a BOX map |
| 07:04.27 | Resinate | its a BALL map |
| 07:04.33 | Xenothral | Ever play Homeworld? |
| 07:04.36 | rooj | i need a new MMO to control and enslave me |
| 07:04.36 | Resinate | nope |
| 07:04.36 | Nash|327 | Send units to attack, wait 2 weeks. |
| 07:04.41 | Resinate | AHHAH |
| 07:04.42 | rooj | rofl |
| 07:04.46 | Xenothral | Homeworld was 3d |
| 07:04.46 | Triceron | yeah that sounds fun |
| 07:04.51 | Xenothral | in the sense of |
| 07:04.55 | Nash|327 | Incredibly fun! |
| 07:04.55 | Xenothral | You're in space |
| 07:04.57 | Resinate | i was thinking of making a triggers |
| 07:05.01 | Resinate | for edges of the map |
| 07:05.03 | Xenothral | With tons of spaceships. |
| 07:05.03 | Triceron | taking over an entire planet over the course of 3 years |
| 07:05.05 | Resinate | that warp units to other side |
| 07:05.06 | Triceron | I'm sure it'd work out |
| 07:05.10 | Xenothral | Also Spore. |
| 07:05.15 | Xenothral | But Spore is boring. |
| 07:05.20 | rooj | sooooooooooooo guys when do we start SUPER MASSIVE MONSTER S2MAPSTER MAP PROJECT? |
| 07:05.37 | Nash|327 | WITH EPIC LOOTS |
| 07:05.38 | Triceron | the hell is that |
| 07:05.43 | rooj | sure |
| 07:05.47 | rooj | i am all for epic loots |
| 07:05.53 | Triceron | you mean destroy all monsters? |
| 07:05.58 | Xenothral | Oh hell yeah epic loots |
| 07:06.07 | Nash|327 | SC2 MMO LIEK OMG |
| 07:06.15 | rooj | just RPG is ok |
| 07:06.17 | Xenothral | I prefer EvE |
| 07:06.17 | rooj | kthx |
| 07:06.26 | Triceron | I really wonder if that's Blizzard's next MMO project |
| 07:06.26 | rooj | i'd like one good SC2 RPG |
| 07:06.41 | Triceron | cuz they're spending so much time making 'higher res' versions of in game units for SC2 |
| 07:06.52 | rooj | their next MMO is a new original game |
| 07:07.01 | Triceron | did they say new IP? |
| 07:07.08 | onetwo | lol blizzard was like "we cant let starcraft: ghost go"... "lets make it an mmo" |
| 07:07.15 | rooj | lol |
| 07:07.16 | onetwo | what does IP mean |
| 07:07.17 | onetwo | in that sense |
| 07:07.30 | Triceron | intellectual property, meaning franchise/title |
| 07:07.33 | rooj | indian princess |
| 07:07.34 | onetwo | ah |
| 07:07.40 | Nash|327 | ipconfig /refresh |
| 07:07.40 | Triceron | series |
| 07:07.53 | Xenothral | Yay command line |
| 07:07.53 | onetwo | itll be bl1zzard.com |
| 07:08.06 | Triceron | onetwo, RPG, when |
| 07:08.10 | onetwo | not for a while |
| 07:08.12 | onetwo | working on a TD atm |
| 07:08.12 | Triceron | booo |
| 07:08.13 | onetwo | for fun |
| 07:08.18 | onetwo | rpg takes its toll on your mind |
| 07:08.22 | onetwo | and rapes your daughter |
| 07:08.24 | Triceron | yah |
| 07:08.28 | Triceron | it's a long process |
| 07:08.30 | Triceron | but man |
| 07:08.34 | Triceron | all the rpgs out right now |
| 07:08.35 | Triceron | suck ass |
| 07:08.36 | Nash|327 | Took me 12 days |
| 07:08.37 | onetwo | tell me about it |
| 07:08.38 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 07:08.48 | Triceron | i want to play a good one |
| 07:08.56 | onetwo | i would even call the TD's |
| 07:08.59 | onetwo | in a very bad siutation |
| 07:09.01 | onetwo | aside from 1-2 |
| 07:09.09 | onetwo | but our standards are pretty high |
| 07:09.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mordero (~Mdfmorder@user-0can2cr.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 07:09.11 | Triceron | well that dude who made elemental TD is working on SC2 version |
| 07:09.17 | Mordero | Sup |
| 07:09.18 | onetwo | \cause war3 was so far into its mapping world |
| 07:09.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@ip98-185-253-55.sb.sd.cox.net) |
| 07:09.33 | Triceron | true |
| 07:09.43 | Triceron | sc2's catching up quickly tho imo |
| 07:09.49 | Nash|327 | Eh, I just wanted a map where you kill some Zerg and level up. |
| 07:09.52 | onetwo | yeah |
| 07:09.55 | onetwo | to triceron |
| 07:10.13 | Triceron | it's been fast for the first few months. We had editor in beta, which was great for a start too. |
| 07:10.42 | Triceron | I remember War3 took a while to get going. Tho there were custom maps in beta. I have no clue how anyone did that. |
| 07:10.42 | Nash|327 | CHEATERS |
| 07:10.50 | rooj | yes |
| 07:10.51 | rooj | rpg plz |
| 07:10.54 | Xenothral | Once the editor came out for beta I stopped playing online altogether. |
| 07:10.56 | Lilianna | Its really just figuring out the little nuances, and then spending the time developing the maps, just need time, and will catch up fine |
| 07:10.58 | Mordero | Hey OneTwo can i pick your brain real fast |
| 07:11.05 | rooj | i wouldnt mind working on an rpg but aint no way im doing it alone |
| 07:11.06 | Nash|327 | I started mapping August 12th :G |
| 07:11.17 | Triceron | psh, you started way late |
| 07:11.28 | Triceron | lots to catch up on |
| 07:11.38 | Nash|327 | Eh I already made my map |
| 07:11.44 | Triceron | i guess a good time to start since there's tons of tuts out there now |
| 07:12.13 | Nash|327 | Catching up + making map = 12 days |
| 07:12.34 | onetwo | ? |
| 07:13.18 | Triceron | what map you make |
| 07:13.23 | Nash|327 | Fringe |
| 07:13.40 | Nash|327 | HACK & SLASH! |
| 07:13.49 | Nash|327 | I like hack & slash. |
| 07:13.52 | Xenothral | GUNS & BULLETS! |
| 07:14.01 | Triceron | SLICE AND DICE! |
| 07:14.06 | Xenothral | But yeah hack & slash is awesome |
| 07:14.14 | Triceron | Fringe |
| 07:14.16 | onetwo | hey what makes a unit have selection priority over another |
| 07:14.27 | Triceron | is that the one with the reaper, marauder and medic? |
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| 07:14.42 | Nash|327 | yes, those units are heroes |
| 07:14.52 | Triceron | that looked interesting |
| 07:15.01 | Triceron | I saw it demoed a bit on SC2mapster |
| 07:15.29 | Nash|327 | there's also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkA_JqWD1ws |
| 07:15.54 | Mordero | Question, is there a way to change how the bossbar looks? |
| 07:16.21 | Xenothral | Not that I know of Mordero |
| 07:16.22 | Triceron | oh was it a ghost? I always thought there was a marauder |
| 07:16.29 | Mordero | Shitty :( |
| 07:16.34 | Nash|327 | It's a simplistic map, but I think complicated rarely equals fun. |
| 07:16.38 | Dogmai | Does anyone know how to change a player's name ingame with triggers? |
| 07:16.42 | Nash|327 | There's a Marauder, Marine and Firebat |
| 07:16.57 | Triceron | oh, there's more characters than I thought |
| 07:17.00 | Nash|327 | those are fighter classes, i.e. they do not use Energy |
| 07:17.15 | Nash|327 | and have 3 abilities |
| 07:17.52 | Triceron | so you go around killing zerg? You have bosses? |
| 07:18.24 | Nash|327 | Well, not really bosses, I generally dislike boss fights. |
| 07:18.29 | Mordero | And what about make a "Bossbar" Freemove so the Player can move it to anywhere on screen? |
| 07:18.42 | Triceron | boo |
| 07:18.55 | Nash|327 | They are always so counter-intuitive or follow some stupid pattern you must stick to. |
| 07:18.59 | Triceron | bosses are fun tho! |
| 07:19.18 | Nash|327 | There's a Leviathan at the end. |
| 07:19.24 | onetwo | anyone know what affects unit selection priority |
| 07:19.26 | onetwo | when selecting a group |
| 07:19.34 | onetwo | eg whether it selects the buildings or a worker |
| 07:19.54 | Triceron | yeah but bosses are fun to see blow up |
| 07:19.56 | Nash|327 | But no BOSS FIGHT thing where you have to stand in certain spots or use certain items. |
| 07:20.08 | rooj | why not?!?! |
| 07:20.12 | Nash|327 | Just don't get killed and unload whatever on it. |
| 07:20.28 | Triceron | well I didn't mean anything that complicated - though I like that kinda stuff too |
| 07:20.45 | Nash|327 | There's also a ZOMBIE event thing. |
| 07:21.07 | Nash|327 | waves of Infested Civilians come at you |
| 07:21.07 | Triceron | so does your map follow a storyline? |
| 07:21.33 | Nash|327 | Yes, though that's mostly an intro conversation, and some dialog at certain points in the map. |
| 07:21.45 | Nash|327 | It is hack & slash, not chat & drink tea. |
| 07:21.51 | rooj | lol |
| 07:22.00 | rooj | you could make that |
| 07:22.02 | Triceron | aww, I like both |
| 07:22.16 | Triceron | hell, it's what I'm doing right now |
| 07:22.35 | Nash|327 | I streamlined it to remove distractions from combat. |
| 07:22.42 | Triceron | nakes sense |
| 07:22.45 | Triceron | *makes |
| 07:22.47 | Nash|327 | no picking what to level up |
| 07:22.53 | Nash|327 | no inventory management |
| 07:22.53 | Xenothral | Damn now I want some tea/ |
| 07:23.12 | Nash|327 | no annoying revive where you have to walk across the map |
| 07:23.17 | Triceron | yeah I'm not liking a lot of how inventory is managed in sc2 so far |
| 07:23.29 | Nash|327 | just kill stuff |
| 07:23.34 | Triceron | it seems like more of a hassle than anything |
| 07:23.37 | Nash|327 | level up automatically |
| 07:23.52 | Nash|327 | pick up medkits and use with command card |
| 07:25.00 | Triceron | well what I meant by storyline before, I should rephrase to is it linear |
| 07:25.08 | Nash|327 | the only think that makes you slow down apart from monsters are the secrets you can find for bonus XP |
| 07:25.10 | Triceron | cuz some maps I played are open rpg. And they're awful. |
| 07:25.17 | Nash|327 | it's very linear |
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| 07:25.18 | davidcramer | hey ladies |
| 07:25.27 | davidcramer | we just opened up reviews for the melee map contest on nibbits |
| 07:25.28 | Triceron | ah, cool |
| 07:25.29 | davidcramer | go review :D |
| 07:25.36 | Triceron | I'll have to check it out some time :D |
| 07:25.43 | Nash|327 | if you're EU :P |
| 07:25.52 | Triceron | aw damnit |
| 07:25.57 | Triceron | no NA release? |
| 07:26.05 | Triceron | or alternate upload? |
| 07:26.05 | Nash|327 | Don't have anyone to publish it. |
| 07:26.10 | Triceron | drats |
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| 07:26.15 | davidcramer | Nash|327: gotta love the publishing system |
| 07:26.20 | davidcramer | its a serious love hate |
| 07:26.23 | davidcramer | or maybe hate hate, relationship |
| 07:26.33 | Nash|327 | HAET |
| 07:26.43 | Triceron | you ever plan on making more? |
| 07:26.59 | Triceron | or is it like 'been there, done that' now? |
| 07:28.54 | Nash|327 | Fringe 3.0 some time |
| 07:29.21 | Triceron | sweet |
| 07:29.22 | Nash|327 | maybe Fringe 2 later |
| 07:30.10 | Nash|327 | could be a series |
| 07:31.15 | Triceron | sounds cool |
| 07:34.34 | Triceron | oh sweet, you kept the story based on SC universe |
| 07:43.25 | RazielZ | Fringe Reloaded - Now with 9001% moar zombiez |
| 07:43.35 | Xenothral | Awwwww yeah |
| 07:44.57 | Triceron | mmmm |
| 07:47.08 | Leaderboard | What's the plan. |
| 07:47.24 | onetwo | well i ended up making no tutorial today |
| 07:47.27 | onetwo | just couldnt settle on an idea |
| 07:47.36 | Leaderboard | :o |
| 07:47.44 | Leaderboard | Make a TPS Tutorial |
| 07:47.49 | RazielZ | then teach me how to make building rotate like a turret |
| 07:48.08 | *** part/#sc2mapster davidcramer (~dcramer@c-24-5-174-37.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:48.12 | RazielZ | I read that big tutorial on turrets but it's not really what I need, a bit too complex for this >.> |
| 07:48.29 | Leaderboard | Why do you want buildings rotate like turrets ? |
| 07:48.40 | RazielZ | Well |
| 07:48.45 | RazielZ | I have a building with a marine model |
| 07:48.49 | RazielZ | And I want him as a tower |
| 07:48.49 | RazielZ | :D |
| 07:49.01 | Leaderboard | Hmm yes |
| 07:49.03 | RazielZ | And it looks like crap if he's shooting at nothing |
| 07:49.12 | Leaderboard | Yeah, I see |
| 07:49.17 | Leaderboard | you don't only want to make it a turret |
| 07:49.22 | Leaderboard | you want him to..turn, facing his ennemies |
| 07:49.26 | Leaderboard | right ? |
| 07:49.29 | RazielZ | Yeah |
| 07:49.33 | RazielZ | I already made him a turret |
| 07:49.40 | RazielZ | He sits there and shoots things in range |
| 07:49.46 | RazielZ | I need the rotation part |
| 07:49.53 | Leaderboard | Maybe the Battlecruiser turret ? |
| 07:49.54 | Leaderboard | >< |
| 07:49.57 | Leaderboard | not sure xD |
| 07:50.07 | Leaderboard | eh no |
| 07:50.19 | Leaderboard | wait I open my editor |
| 07:51.19 | RazielZ | K |
| 07:52.23 | Leaderboard | What turret did you put ? |
| 07:52.39 | RazielZ | I tried battlecruiser now and they say can't turn towards target |
| 07:52.49 | RazielZ | Maybe there's some flag I need to check to allow it to rotate |
| 07:54.24 | RazielZ | checked a turnable flag, trying now |
| 07:56.39 | RazielZ | I think it works |
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| 07:58.16 | Leaderboard_ | who |
| 07:58.18 | Leaderboard_ | sorry, high bug |
| 07:58.26 | Leaderboard_ | I can't get your marine tower work :( |
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| 07:58.56 | Leaderboard | Eh :D. |
| 07:59.11 | Leaderboard | What do you think of Banelings Arena ? |
| 07:59.17 | Rayden | what is it? |
| 07:59.29 | Leaderboard | Featured map :p |
| 07:59.36 | Rayden | featured where? |
| 07:59.45 | Leaderboard | EU. sorry |
| 07:59.52 | Rayden | on battle.net? |
| 07:59.56 | Leaderboard | yes |
| 08:00.22 | Triceron | I hate this region splitting |
| 08:00.33 | Triceron | almost as much as I hate the 10/20mb upload limit |
| 08:01.23 | Zarafu | hey guys, do you have any ideas on how to create an ability that would be a kind of a "Charge" ability, but you would target the direction in which you want your unit to charge to, and he would damage all units between his current location and the charge location (for a certain distance)? |
| 08:02.49 | HeyRevolver | wow ok i have to share this |
| 08:02.59 | HeyRevolver | I can hear my neighbor because she is this really loud girl who talks to loud |
| 08:03.12 | HeyRevolver | and i dont know what her and whoever is over there were talking about but she just yelled |
| 08:03.18 | HeyRevolver | "NO, MY BUTT IS FOR POOPING!" |
| 08:03.52 | RazielZ | OR IS IT |
| 08:04.13 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 08:04.27 | HeyRevolver | but its 4:04am here |
| 08:04.39 | Xackery | hahaha. |
| 08:04.40 | currydevil | lol |
| 08:04.42 | HeyRevolver | and she's a ho |
| 08:04.54 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 08:06.41 | rrowland | How do you not know what they were talking about |
| 08:06.43 | rrowland | Isn't it obvious |
| 08:07.42 | jorgenpt | It is. :( |
| 08:07.52 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 08:07.53 | jorgenpt | Someone wanted her to smuggle coke in her butt. |
| 08:07.54 | Triceron | someone should update her facebook |
| 08:08.20 | HeyRevolver | yeah i am pretty sure what the were talking about |
| 08:08.26 | HeyRevolver | but I cant claim to be positive |
| 08:09.00 | jorgenpt | You live near Mexico, HeyRevolver? |
| 08:09.08 | HeyRevolver | lol nope |
| 08:09.12 | HeyRevolver | i live in north carolina man |
| 08:09.21 | jorgenpt | So smuggling from Canada, then. |
| 08:09.38 | HeyRevolver | um |
| 08:09.40 | jorgenpt | There's a reason snow is slang for coke. |
| 08:09.50 | HeyRevolver | ummm |
| 08:09.55 | jorgenpt | looks up North Carolina on a map |
| 08:10.06 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 08:10.07 | jorgenpt | Cuba? |
| 08:10.16 | HeyRevolver | Yeah North Carolina, Cuba |
| 08:10.31 | jorgenpt | I mean, the closest foreign country is like Cuba. :-) |
| 08:10.57 | jorgenpt | Luckily there isn't a geography test as a part of the greencard application. |
| 08:11.19 | HeyRevolver | Cuba is probably the closest besides canada yes |
| 08:11.27 | HeyRevolver | Im not sure but australia might be closer |
| 08:12.00 | Triceron | not sure why you'd want coke from Canada |
| 08:12.02 | jorgenpt | Australia, now you're high. :-p |
| 08:12.06 | jorgenpt | Triceron: "snow". Get it?! |
| 08:12.11 | HeyRevolver | Norway? |
| 08:12.13 | Triceron | weed I can see, but coke? |
| 08:12.36 | jorgenpt | Yeah, Norway is probably closer than Australia, at least. |
| 08:12.42 | HeyRevolver | i get my coke from vending machines right here in the good ol usa, I dont know why you guys import yours form other countries |
| 08:12.59 | jorgenpt | The only coke I ingest is in my rum&coke. |
| 08:13.56 | HeyRevolver | the only rum I ingest is in my rum |
| 08:15.07 | HeyRevolver | catch me at your local party yes i party every day, haters get mad cuz i got me some bathin' apes |
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| 08:15.13 | dho | hello |
| 08:15.18 | HeyRevolver | bye! |
| 08:15.20 | jorgenpt | HeyRevolver: My mind is boggled. |
| 08:15.39 | HeyRevolver | why |
| 08:19.29 | jorgenpt | How did the apes get involved? |
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| 08:20.39 | Zanerkin | How do I set up player/team propertys for the game lobby and such? |
| 08:20.59 | Xackery | any camera know it alls here? heh |
| 08:23.12 | HeyRevolver | jorgen, i was jockin on em, and if wes get to fighting then im cockin on em |
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| 08:25.03 | Pierrot | Hello all ! |
| 08:25.12 | Leaderboard | Question, I want to make not-english clients hear english voices, how to do some ? |
| 08:26.02 | Pierrot | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/chase-mineral/ just uploaded a new version ! after many games tested in real conditions. |
| 08:26.11 | Pierrot | it is starting to get serious |
| 08:26.43 | Pierrot | it is fun and weird to hear people playing your map |
| 08:26.54 | Pierrot | seeing thing you didn't think of |
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| 08:40.43 | Maul | anyone know how the cost value works? |
| 08:41.02 | Maul | ive got 3 levels of a morph, the first which needs to be constructed, then 2 upgrade levels |
| 08:41.08 | Maul | the first is set to 100 and works fine |
| 08:41.17 | Maul | the second is set to 300 to cost 200 and works fine |
| 08:41.24 | Maul | the third is trickier |
| 08:41.34 | RazielZ | Damn there's gotta be an easy way to make a building with a marine model rotate to face enemies... |
| 08:41.50 | Leaderboard | No one can help me :p |
| 08:41.53 | Maul | ive set it to 700 to be worth 400 and thats how much it costs |
| 08:42.03 | Maul | however the ui displays it as costing 600 |
| 08:44.06 | KcrevaM | you dont have a cost in the morph ability at all do you |
| 08:44.16 | Maul | not that i can see |
| 08:44.27 | Leaderboard | Not at all. |
| 08:44.34 | KcrevaM | check subgroup alias and stuff like that aswell |
| 08:44.38 | KcrevaM | subgroup priority |
| 08:44.48 | KcrevaM | i remember something like that having an effect |
| 08:45.50 | Maul | at me or leaderboard? |
| 08:45.57 | Maul | btw why did you mirror your name? :P |
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| 08:46.36 | KcrevaM | at you lol |
| 08:46.43 | KcrevaM | this is just my alternate name |
| 08:46.49 | Leaderboard | Someone called me ? |
| 08:47.02 | MavercK | if i dc and it tries to reconnect before MavercK has timed out |
| 08:47.06 | MavercK | it uses KcrevaM |
| 08:47.17 | KcrevaM | like this |
| 08:47.21 | MavercK | lolz |
| 08:47.24 | MavercK | kind of |
| 08:47.30 | Maul | hmm |
| 08:47.37 | Maul | well the subgroup priority says 2 |
| 08:47.42 | Maul | which hopefully turns into 200 mins |
| 08:47.43 | Maul | lol |
| 08:47.45 | Maul | brb |
| 08:47.47 | MavercK | haha |
| 08:48.11 | MavercK | pretty sure i set all my towers with upgrades to be the same group and had them with scaling priorities |
| 08:48.16 | MavercK | to get the upgrade price working properly |
| 08:48.29 | MavercK | so all photon cannon towers were in subgroup photon cannon |
| 08:49.02 | Xenothral | Woah, when did it become 2 AM? |
| 08:49.36 | Maul | about 15 hours ago |
| 08:49.42 | Xackery | anyone want to help me test a map? |
| 08:49.45 | Xackery | just testing latency mainly |
| 08:49.48 | Xackery | US |
| 08:49.51 | Xenothral | Maybe for you, I'm in America. |
| 08:49.54 | Xenothral | Haha |
| 08:50.30 | Xackery | like you'll make an exception for me? lol |
| 08:50.37 | Xackery | or I'm in US, you're in america? heh. |
| 08:50.56 | Maul | hmm there has to be a simpler way |
| 08:51.15 | Maul | i cant figure out why it says 600 instead of 400 though when thats what it actually costs |
| 08:51.17 | MavercK | well you could set the cost to 0 on all your towers and do the cost through the morph ability |
| 08:51.20 | MavercK | and build ability |
| 08:51.49 | Maul | yeah i was thinking that |
| 08:52.08 | Maul | id have to manually set the salvage costs then though i think |
| 08:52.12 | Xenothral | Oh man, I'm probably gonna go ahead and pass out somewhere now. See ya |
| 08:53.02 | Leaderboard | Sooo... |
| 08:54.06 | MavercK | well my beam towers have 3 levels |
| 08:54.18 | MavercK | all have a unique subgroup alias (so i was wrong with that) |
| 08:54.36 | MavercK | level 1 has a subgroup priority of 1. level 2 is 2, etc |
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| 08:55.19 | MavercK | seems i dont include the level 1 tower cost in my level 2 tower cost |
| 08:55.49 | Maul | is your level 1 tower cost 0 and set in the build ability? |
| 08:55.55 | MavercK | nope |
| 08:55.58 | MavercK | all costs set in the unit |
| 08:56.24 | Maul | so a cannon level 1 is 15 and level 2 is 30 not 45? |
| 08:57.31 | MavercK | well photon cannon does include original tower cost... |
| 08:57.35 | Huesy | Just had one of those "oh snap" moments. RPG camera, hold left mouse to look, but that disables clicking. Simply check the camera properties in a recurring timer loop and if they change, then trigger the look action >.< |
| 08:57.38 | MavercK | level 1 is 15. 2 is 45. 3 is 90 |
| 08:58.13 | Maul | thats how ive set it too |
| 08:58.27 | MavercK | then just fiddle with those subgroup crap haha |
| 08:58.32 | Maul | 1 is 100, 2 is 300 (for 200) and 3 is 700 for (400) |
| 08:58.47 | Maul | and each level should have a corressponding subgroup |
| 08:58.52 | Maul | ie lvl 1 = 1 |
| 08:58.54 | Maul | 2 = 2 |
| 08:58.55 | Maul | etc |
| 08:58.55 | Maul | ? |
| 08:59.04 | MavercK | yea |
| 08:59.20 | MavercK | try using the same subgroup alias for all of them and then try a unique subgroup alias for all of them |
| 09:00.19 | Maul | well unique doesnt work |
| 09:02.33 | Maul | nm it does work |
| 09:02.36 | Maul | ty kind sir |
| 09:02.40 | MavercK | np |
| 09:04.38 | Xackery | nice, I made a map that can crash players who join it |
| 09:04.39 | Xackery | <3 |
| 09:05.04 | Bablo | One of my maps crashes my computer, but works for my friend :P |
| 09:05.14 | Bablo | no idea whats causing it |
| 09:06.39 | Gwan | good morning everyone |
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| 09:11.57 | Leaderboard | I can't handle that. |
| 09:12.36 | Mordero | How can i remove a requirement from an ability for a unit? |
| 09:12.46 | Mordero | Say Nuke for instance. |
| 09:13.46 | currydevil | Maybe someone has some insight into this problem: I'm trying to modify a unit's life based on a variable I created, but I cannot find my variable from the list for the trigger. |
| 09:14.13 | RazielZ | Is the variable in another trigger? |
| 09:14.18 | currydevil | nor any variables i created ... it's just giving me 4 variables from teh "campaign" |
| 09:14.23 | currydevil | no, it's global |
| 09:14.40 | currydevil | it' |
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| 09:15.21 | currydevil | it's not showing any of my variables in the list.. just some random 4 variables from campaign, and I tried moving the dependencies down |
| 09:16.30 | currydevil | I mean, I can do it the hard way and set the health on every unit =/ lol |
| 09:16.51 | Pierrot | Who wants to play my map Chase the mineral ? lot of fun in 15 minutes ! |
| 09:17.07 | Xaragoth | hides. |
| 09:17.09 | Xaragoth | I played that. |
| 09:17.13 | Xaragoth | I don't want to anymore. |
| 09:17.14 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 09:17.21 | Pierrot | xaragoth : it has changed a lot since last time |
| 09:17.33 | Pierrot | i played it i real condition for few hours |
| 09:17.42 | Xaragoth | I doubt it'd be more fun for me, I just don't like the style, thats all ^^ |
| 09:17.50 | Pierrot | ah |
| 09:17.51 | Pierrot | yes |
| 09:17.54 | Xaragoth | Not a big fan of catching games |
| 09:17.59 | RazielZ | Hmmmm |
| 09:18.06 | RazielZ | EU? |
| 09:18.11 | Pierrot | yup |
| 09:18.17 | Pierrot | pierrot.341 |
| 09:20.00 | Leaderboard | Bonjour |
| 09:20.00 | Leaderboard | So |
| 09:20.19 | Pierrot | Bonjour ! |
| 09:20.21 | Leaderboard | I want to make not-english clients hear english voices, is there a way to do some ? |
| 09:20.25 | Pierrot | Do you want to join us ? |
| 09:20.30 | Leaderboard | Where ? |
| 09:20.39 | Pierrot | in my game !! 15 minutes long |
| 09:20.41 | Pierrot | lot of fun |
| 09:20.56 | Leaderboard | sec |
| 09:21.11 | RazielZ | I added you |
| 09:21.14 | Pierrot | for your problem have you tried make the sound played to be VO ? |
| 09:21.42 | Leaderboard | added you |
| 09:21.45 | Leaderboard | I want to test :p |
| 09:21.51 | Leaderboard | No o_o |
| 09:21.54 | Leaderboard | Should tru xD |
| 09:21.55 | Leaderboard | try |
| 09:29.20 | Rayden | how do i make an item give a unit an ability? |
| 09:29.24 | Rayden | all i see are weapons and behaviors |
| 09:39.18 | Leaderboard | Pierrot game is awesome |
| 09:39.21 | Leaderboard | Chase the mineral :D |
| 09:39.23 | Pierrot | thx |
| 09:39.24 | RazielZ | Yep |
| 09:39.34 | RazielZ | Now then how the heck do I get this marine to act like a turret |
| 09:39.35 | Leaderboard | Don't know if it's that's fun playing SCV |
| 09:39.37 | Pierrot | i will change the upgrade system |
| 09:39.54 | RazielZ | I tried making him either a unit that can't move but can turn or a building that can turn and it's the same :< |
| 09:40.03 | Leaderboard | RazielZ, maybe you should check Standard Tower Defense |
| 09:40.07 | Leaderboard | I think Turrets Turn |
| 09:40.08 | Leaderboard | not sure |
| 09:40.11 | RazielZ | Yeah Imma look at it |
| 09:40.17 | Leaderboard | (like the Marauder) |
| 09:40.20 | Pierrot | I need to work on SCV's visibilty |
| 09:40.40 | Pierrot | some people told me they didn't know what to do when mokmok is burrowed |
| 09:40.49 | Leaderboard | 'NADE IT |
| 09:40.51 | Pierrot | toss a grenade |
| 09:40.58 | Leaderboard | eh; maybe add a scan ability too |
| 09:41.01 | Pierrot | as i decreased its speed |
| 09:41.23 | Leaderboard | Scan it :D |
| 09:41.30 | Pierrot | Hmm i might add an ability to the sentry to see burrowed units |
| 09:41.46 | Pierrot | but turn off the scan range |
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| 09:43.23 | Leaderboard | Hi Clord |
| 09:44.01 | Clord | yeah yeah |
| 09:44.02 | Clord | hi |
| 09:45.22 | Clord | lol firefox tells I have visited on my site 4430 times |
| 09:45.24 | Clord | XD |
| 09:47.43 | Leaderboard | why not. |
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| 10:01.36 | Leaderboard | hi mattavich |
| 10:01.46 | mattavich-377 | morning |
| 10:01.47 | Leaderboard | Whazzup ? |
| 10:08.40 | mattavich-377 | So annoying there are no diablo animations |
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| 10:09.18 | Lasion | mornin' |
| 10:13.09 | RazielZ | Hmmm |
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| 10:17.41 | thenk | i have made a burrow moving ability for my burrowed zergling, it works great, the only problem is, for some reason now the normal zergling can't move |
| 10:18.10 | thenk | the buttons just don't show up - the attack button works, but the move buttons are just not there - however i didn't change the unit at all, only the burrowed unit |
| 10:18.13 | thenk | how does that happen? |
| 10:19.09 | thenk | all of the movement speed/acceleration parameters are fine, it has a mover and everything |
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| 10:25.35 | Zanerkin_ | Checked its command card to make sure the buttons still there with the correct ability set? |
| 10:26.27 | thenk | the command card says the Move button uses the Move ability to execute Move. |
| 10:26.49 | thenk | Other units have the same command and it works |
| 10:27.07 | thenk | I attached a requirement to my burrowed unit that disables move until you research an ability |
| 10:27.30 | thenk | The normal unit doesn't ahve any requirements to use anything |
| 10:27.41 | thenk | I'm stumped :( |
| 10:31.46 | thenk | right.. nice.. i fixed it |
| 10:32.00 | thenk | how did i fix it? i deleted some unrelated units i'd created |
| 10:32.08 | thenk | 's head explodes |
| 10:32.25 | thenk | seriously i just deleted a copy of banelings and another zergling copy i'd made and now it works. |
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| 10:44.33 | thenk | i managed to make it happen again, by adding requirements to a copy of the move ability.. |
| 10:48.24 | Huesy | Anyone found a way of making the mouse cursor visible when "Lock Camera Mouse Relative Mode" is turned on? |
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| 10:55.34 | thenk | havent done much work on cameras sorry :< |
| 10:56.10 | anteevy | any help here? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/9942-hide-actor-for-player/ ;) |
| 10:58.31 | thenk | damn editor crashes everytime i make an effect with ability |
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| 11:00.55 | thenk | freezes when i try and drop down the ability menu |
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| 11:03.37 | RazielZ | What the heck is wrong with this editor |
| 11:04.05 | RazielZ | In standard td, a structure kinda like the one I want doesn't even use a turret and it faces enemies |
| 11:04.11 | RazielZ | I made mine like that and it still doesn't |
| 11:04.25 | RazielZ | I tried atleast 4 different approaches and none works |
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| 11:13.37 | RazielZ | Any way to edit ranks? |
| 11:13.49 | Greedape | the #kill ranks? |
| 11:14.09 | RazielZ | Yeah |
| 11:14.29 | Greedape | should be somewhere in the text editor |
| 11:15.25 | RazielZ | Ohright, so trying to make the marine tower again - I duped a marine and just removed the movable flag and it works |
| 11:15.34 | RazielZ | Now let's see if it still works with a 1x1 footprint |
| 11:17.06 | RazielZ | nope |
| 11:17.12 | Clord | or you could have just directly edited it |
| 11:17.13 | RazielZ | When I set a footprint they stopped tracking enemies |
| 11:17.15 | Clord | without duplicating |
| 11:17.15 | Clord | XD |
| 11:17.31 | RazielZ | True |
| 11:17.41 | thenk | yeah there are some wierd things stopping basic stuff like that :( |
| 11:17.42 | Clord | saves in filesize too ^^ |
| 11:17.46 | RazielZ | But still, why the heck does adding a footrint stop them from tracking? |
| 11:17.53 | RazielZ | And more importantly, how do I fix it |
| 11:17.54 | RazielZ | >< |
| 11:18.02 | Clord | probably when game treats unit as structure |
| 11:18.09 | Greedape | you could just add a ° slop of 360 |
| 11:18.09 | Clord | aka they have footprint |
| 11:18.15 | Clord | eveyr structure need turret to shoot |
| 11:18.17 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:18.17 | Clord | every |
| 11:18.24 | Clord | and footprint makes game think it is structure |
| 11:18.28 | Greedape | yeah, like in the bad w3 TD´s |
| 11:18.36 | Greedape | dont make the tower change direction |
| 11:18.38 | thenk | makes sense |
| 11:18.44 | RazielZ | I tried to add a trret but I couldn't get it to work |
| 11:18.46 | Greedape | just add a slop of 360 |
| 11:18.52 | Greedape | for the weapon |
| 11:18.53 | RazielZ | A slop of 360? |
| 11:18.55 | RazielZ | oh |
| 11:18.59 | RazielZ | Yeah but I want them to track |
| 11:18.59 | RazielZ | >.> |
| 11:19.04 | Greedape | so he doesnt have to look at their direction |
| 11:19.05 | Greedape | :P |
| 11:19.06 | RazielZ | Because otherwise it looks like crap |
| 11:19.08 | Greedape | ya |
| 11:19.14 | Greedape | a sec... |
| 11:19.15 | Clord | you could use pathing blockers ^^ |
| 11:19.19 | Clord | when placing tower |
| 11:19.24 | Clord | it would create pathing blocker under it |
| 11:19.25 | Clord | lol |
| 11:19.28 | Clord | aka no build area |
| 11:19.29 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:19.31 | RazielZ | Hmm |
| 11:19.32 | thenk | maybe make a thing which blocks it from moving |
| 11:19.38 | thenk | trigger it in when the marine is placed |
| 11:19.48 | RazielZ | It still needs to occupy a 1x1 on the grid |
| 11:19.52 | thenk | some invisible type of footprint that oocupies 1x1 |
| 11:20.05 | RazielZ | I'll try moar turrets |
| 11:20.08 | Clord | somehow make it paint or place something what prevents another structure for same location |
| 11:20.10 | Clord | lol |
| 11:20.15 | thenk | you kind of want a footprint when building in a td though. |
| 11:20.19 | Greedape | ya |
| 11:20.34 | Greedape | so rather use a triggered set rotation :3 |
| 11:20.40 | Clord | most TD maps use instabuild towers in SCII |
| 11:20.45 | Clord | as it is too hard to do otherwise |
| 11:20.48 | Clord | lol |
| 11:20.58 | RazielZ | Am I supposed to add the turret in Combat - Turrets or should I link it with the weapon in Combat - Weapons? |
| 11:21.38 | Greedape | even if you do it like that, the turret would need to be the base unit because otherwise it wouldnt really look at the enemy |
| 11:21.49 | Greedape | which is fail |
| 11:22.15 | RazielZ | If I can't get it toI'll just do it the hardEST way, as in making an invisible base, a marine model actor, with a turret actor attached, and somehow make its animations work too |
| 11:22.30 | thenk | custom structure that is modeled as a marine with marine actors for turrets? |
| 11:22.32 | thenk | lol |
| 11:22.41 | Greedape | that could work |
| 11:22.55 | thenk | it probably wouldn't track thugh |
| 11:22.59 | RazielZ | ...fffff |
| 11:23.01 | thenk | as structures don't do that |
| 11:23.06 | Greedape | word |
| 11:23.15 | Greedape | just use the photon cannon |
| 11:23.20 | Greedape | its easier |
| 11:23.21 | Greedape | :3 |
| 11:23.37 | RazielZ | ._. |
| 11:23.48 | thenk | what about using collide to stop it from moving? |
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| 11:24.05 | Greedape | not being able to move via flag is enough |
| 11:24.06 | thenk | then it would possibly rotate but not move anywhere |
| 11:24.51 | Clord | other is to set movement speed to zero |
| 11:24.55 | Clord | it not stop unit from turning |
| 11:25.07 | thenk | well, invisible structure with a marine model, when its placed, remove that marine and place the custom one which is a unit that doesnt move and has a pathing footprint of 1x1 |
| 11:25.23 | Greedape | lawl |
| 11:25.32 | Greedape | thats nice |
| 11:25.33 | Clord | it looks like Greedape not want use workaround methods |
| 11:25.39 | Clord | XD |
| 11:25.45 | Greedape | nah, thenk has a point |
| 11:25.48 | thenk | well just adding a footprint doesnt work |
| 11:25.57 | thenk | but you could make it LOOK like you're dropping a marine in there with a footprint |
| 11:26.03 | thenk | then jsut remove that and add your custom one |
| 11:26.14 | Zarafu | hey guys, do you have any ideas on how to create an ability that would be a kind of a "Charge" ability, but you would target |
| 11:26.14 | Zarafu | the direction in which you want your unit to charge to, and he would damage all units between his current location and the charge location |
| 11:26.14 | Zarafu | (for a certain distance)? |
| 11:26.16 | Greedape | which is a marine with 0 movement speed |
| 11:26.16 | thenk | then next time you go to place, you can't because it has a pathing footprint there already |
| 11:26.18 | Greedape | tadaa |
| 11:26.23 | thenk | yep |
| 11:26.38 | thenk | well thats a possibility |
| 11:26.46 | Greedape | and it has no playing requirement, or it would get blocked by the invisible marine lawl |
| 11:26.50 | thenk | i jsut want my sc2 editor to stop crashing when i make effects on abilities |
| 11:26.51 | Greedape | *placing |
| 11:27.18 | RazielZ | Imma try that |
| 11:28.33 | Greedape | my first TD i did in beta only had some very basic towers because it looks stupid to just use units |
| 11:28.52 | Greedape | then you have to change actors like hell |
| 11:28.57 | Greedape | and stuff |
| 11:28.59 | Greedape | and new weapons |
| 11:29.01 | Greedape | and argh |
| 11:30.57 | Clord | lol... it looks like my map made it in EU and SEA |
| 11:31.06 | Clord | I looked those pictures |
| 11:31.42 | Clord | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/9850-bnet-custom-game-lists/ |
| 11:32.19 | Greedape | poser :3 |
| 11:32.35 | Zarafu | how do I attach a video to my project on sc2mapster? |
| 11:33.10 | Clord | more like... it made WCIII editor practicing totally worth it |
| 11:33.16 | Clord | got quite advantage when using SCII one |
| 11:33.17 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:33.44 | Xaragoth | heh |
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| 11:33.46 | Huesy | Zarafu: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/markup-types/ |
| 11:33.55 | Xaragoth | talking to otixa help me improve my modelling skills quite a lot :P |
| 11:33.56 | Zarafu | thanks |
| 11:34.11 | Xaragoth | *helped |
| 11:34.18 | Huesy | For a youtube video: <<youtube 1XNTjVScm_8>> |
| 11:38.54 | Zarafu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a31bLRWgmo8 |
| 11:39.59 | Zarafu | my laptop that I'm running SC2 is pretty shitty...running minimum settings on SC2, so unfortunately the video didn't come out all that great. Maybe a friend will help make a higher quality one. |
| 11:40.04 | Huesy | I loved Smash TV :D |
| 11:40.18 | Zarafu | great :) |
| 11:40.27 | Zarafu | how is the intro cinematic? |
| 11:40.59 | Huesy | Almost spot on ;) |
| 11:41.21 | Zarafu | lol good stuff |
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| 11:45.13 | thenk | yeah smash tv was great :) |
| 11:45.30 | thenk | this sucks i can't change ugprades, sc2 editor just crashes |
| 11:45.36 | Jum-Jum | is someone making a smash tv map!?!? |
| 11:45.39 | Zarafu | I am |
| 11:45.55 | Jum-Jum | I never finished SmashTV :/ but that game is one of my favs from consoles |
| 11:46.08 | Zarafu | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/smash-tv-2010/ |
| 11:47.08 | Jum-Jum | hahahah |
| 11:47.12 | Jum-Jum | even the sounds |
| 11:47.26 | thenk | nice intromatic |
| 11:52.10 | Clord | :9 |
| 11:52.13 | Clord | :) |
| 11:57.50 | Zarafu | thanks |
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| 12:02.12 | thenk | hrm, i've given my burrowed zerglings some speed and acceleration and the move ability and the can now move |
| 12:02.17 | thenk | but they move around quite oddly |
| 12:03.20 | GeEom | does anyone know how I can put a player into placement selection? |
| 12:03.43 | GeEom | I can order a unit to build, for instance, but that skips placement, is there a way to reach the intemediary? |
| 12:09.42 | thenk | no idea |
| 12:10.04 | thenk | the player would need to click on something to trigger it? |
| 12:11.29 | GeEom | seems so, but ive no UI and I want to trigger the builds from dialouge as one offs, :-( |
| 12:16.42 | thenk | This project is awaiting approval. |
| 12:16.43 | thenk | Our administrators will be reviewing your project any minute now. |
| 12:16.53 | thenk | aren't those administrators cool.. |
| 12:16.58 | thenk | whistles innocently |
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| 12:19.22 | Leaderboard | Hi :^) |
| 12:19.37 | Leaderboard | Hello Huesy |
| 12:21.26 | Huesy | Hey there |
| 12:21.30 | Huesy | Finally caught me :) |
| 12:21.57 | Leaderboard | Yes xD |
| 12:22.04 | Leaderboard | I come in 10 minutes |
| 12:23.59 | Clord | thenk... they they are cool lol |
| 12:24.00 | Clord | somewhat |
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| 12:26.57 | Huesy | Solved it! |
| 12:27.17 | Huesy | Enabling mouse clicking when dragging (camera mouse relative mode) with the left mouse |
| 12:27.36 | Leaderboard | Ok Huesy :p |
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| 12:35.36 | Clord | lol that smash tv 2010 comment |
| 12:35.47 | Clord | he can't help but wanna be beta tester |
| 12:35.51 | Clord | what the lol |
| 12:35.53 | Clord | aka whl |
| 12:35.54 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:41.39 | Zarafu | lol yeah |
| 12:47.16 | Huesy | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/10015-enabling-mouse-click-with-camera-mouse-relative-mode/ |
| 12:47.29 | Huesy | Solution was so simple >.< |
| 12:47.41 | Huesy | wtb all the time spent on other theories back pls |
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| 12:50.58 | Nash|327 | buy more time? |
| 12:51.07 | Nash|327 | What is this, World of Warcraft? |
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| 12:54.05 | Huesy | Close |
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| 12:54.52 | Nash|327 | Open |
| 12:55.06 | Huesy | :P |
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| 13:04.03 | mattavich-377 | Woohoo, my blog is now on the first page for 2facebook games" keyword :D |
| 13:04.16 | mattavich-377 | money money money |
| 13:04.41 | mattavich-377 | 10 days to go until the contest close! |
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| 13:10.13 | merrillphish | hello |
| 13:10.38 | Nash|327 | hacker |
| 13:10.58 | pinzu | I've decided Im gonna study some sort programming language... |
| 13:11.13 | Nash|327 | study a programming language? |
| 13:11.47 | pinzu | like c++ r |
| 13:11.49 | pinzu | or something |
| 13:11.57 | Nash|327 | ew |
| 13:12.02 | Nash|327 | study programming |
| 13:12.05 | Ahmaz | C# is the new C++ lol |
| 13:12.10 | Nash|327 | not a progamming language |
| 13:12.16 | Nash|327 | languages are irrelevant |
| 13:12.55 | Nash|327 | imperative programming languages are all the same |
| 13:12.59 | pinzu | okey if i want to study a mixture of math and programing? |
| 13:13.22 | Nash|327 | and if you can't pick up syntax quickly with documentation and examples, well, programming is not for you D: |
| 13:13.23 | mattavich-377 | learnign html/css and photoshop cant ake you places |
| 13:13.23 | pinzu | where would that take me down the road |
| 13:13.43 | Nash|327 | Computer Science is math and programming |
| 13:14.18 | mattavich-377 | Why not learn how to make lots of money online? :) |
| 13:14.18 | pinzu | and what would be my personal test |
| 13:14.23 | pinzu | to see if that is indeed for me? |
| 13:14.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster FahqueL (4395cd10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.149.205.16) |
| 13:14.52 | mattavich-377 | Learn how to make wtfawesome maps and sell them thorugh blizzard's marketplace |
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| 13:15.32 | Nash|327 | How old are you? |
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| 13:15.42 | pinzu | 18 |
| 13:15.52 | Nash|327 | And you haven't programmed yet? |
| 13:15.58 | pinzu | nah not really |
| 13:16.19 | pinzu | not more then seeing it through error and forums you know |
| 13:16.51 | Nash|327 | people who study CS often do programming BEFORE they start |
| 13:16.59 | mattavich-377 | a lot of people dont |
| 13:17.00 | Nash|327 | Are you at least comfortable with triggers? |
| 13:17.05 | pinzu | yes |
| 13:17.16 | Nash|327 | for loops, arithmetic, etc |
| 13:17.20 | pinzu | yeah |
| 13:17.30 | Nash|327 | Well, that's programming for you :G |
| 13:17.34 | mattavich-377 | A lot of programmers make crap software too lol |
| 13:17.35 | pinzu | or atleast I consider myself to be) |
| 13:17.45 | pinzu | but I want to be prepered |
| 13:17.51 | pinzu | take a step futher out of my comfort zone |
| 13:18.22 | pinzu | dont want to pick such a course and say, "fuck this, I dont want this" |
| 13:18.28 | Nash|327 | count = count + 1 |
| 13:18.28 | mattavich-377 | fuck a course |
| 13:18.31 | mattavich-377 | why take a course? |
| 13:18.36 | Nash|327 | Math guy says IT IS WRONG |
| 13:18.37 | pinzu | program |
| 13:18.37 | mattavich-377 | work on necessity |
| 13:18.41 | mattavich-377 | cant even spell it ha |
| 13:18.48 | Nash|327 | Programmer says YOU FORGOT SEMICOLON |
| 13:19.24 | mattavich-377 | I never wanted to learn css/html, but id ecided one day i want to create a website |
| 13:19.30 | mattavich-377 | i got a job in a web design agency |
| 13:19.36 | mattavich-377 | now i know how to do it all |
| 13:19.39 | mattavich-377 | but neve rintended to |
| 13:19.52 | mattavich-377 | we would get people fresh from university |
| 13:19.56 | mattavich-377 | with real qualifications |
| 13:20.00 | Nash|327 | <- soon Master's in Software Engineering/Interaction Design |
| 13:20.06 | mattavich-377 | and they knew nothing about how to implement a commercial project |
| 13:20.22 | mattavich-377 | theyw ere really bad actually but they had a degree |
| 13:20.25 | pinzu | ye, the hobby guys are the real pros, school is for dummies ;) |
| 13:20.29 | mattavich-377 | it makes no sense |
| 13:20.40 | JamesW05 | doesn't surprise me mattavich-377 big difference between theory and real world in basically every profession |
| 13:21.43 | Nash|327 | In the real world, you have stupid bosses that insist on doing things their way! |
| 13:22.04 | mattavich-377 | Well, first thing, si their business successful? |
| 13:22.15 | pinzu | whos? |
| 13:22.21 | mattavich-377 | the stupid bosses |
| 13:22.29 | Nash|327 | maybe |
| 13:22.34 | pinzu | they pay you, the end. |
| 13:22.51 | mattavich-377 | lol |
| 13:22.59 | Nash|327 | They think they know better but suck, you ragequit, the end. |
| 13:23.06 | mattavich-377 | well, kind of |
| 13:23.18 | mattavich-377 | while you quit for their 2stupidity" they're making the money |
| 13:23.20 | pinzu | they got there first, stop instulting them! |
| 13:23.32 | Nash|327 | Oh, great, they're making money. |
| 13:23.37 | Nash|327 | How awesome they are. |
| 13:23.38 | mattavich-377 | yeah great |
| 13:23.41 | mattavich-377 | totally |
| 13:23.47 | Nash|327 | It's FREAKING MONEY! |
| 13:24.04 | Nash|327 | Money, it's all you need. |
| 13:24.10 | mattavich-377 | Best pieces of paper int he world |
| 13:24.19 | pinzu | its not paper, but yeah |
| 13:24.27 | pinzu | ^^ |
| 13:24.28 | Nash|327 | Self-respect, dignity, pride, morals, that's for losers. |
| 13:24.30 | Nash|327 | MONEY |
| 13:24.36 | mattavich-377 | lol nash |
| 13:24.39 | JamesW05 | business is money |
| 13:24.43 | mattavich-377 | what wouldn't a "stupid boss" have that? |
| 13:24.47 | mattavich-377 | you're the one with the ragequit |
| 13:25.03 | Nash|327 | Well I would ragequit out of self-respect. |
| 13:25.07 | JamesW05 | you want dignity, pride, morals go volunteer for a charity :P |
| 13:25.45 | mattavich-377 | My whole point is you're calling your boss "stupid" because they want you to do things their way. But that is silly because you should respect that they have a successful business and you sohuld elarn from them |
| 13:25.53 | mattavich-377 | by respecting their success you can elarn from it |
| 13:25.58 | mattavich-377 | even if they are right or wrong about something |
| 13:26.07 | Nash|327 | I don't respect people just because they have money. |
| 13:26.17 | mattavich-377 | and you shouldn't |
| 13:26.19 | pinzu | you dont have to... |
| 13:26.25 | mattavich-377 | but you can't see past people who ahve money for the success they are |
| 13:26.27 | pinzu | you should just not look down on themm |
| 13:26.39 | pinzu | just because you find them inferior |
| 13:26.50 | Nash|327 | You can be successful by being an asshole, slimebag or just plain evil. |
| 13:26.57 | mattavich-377 | sure |
| 13:27.14 | mattavich-377 | This is a typical "all successful businessmen are assholes or got their moeny by stealing or some shit" |
| 13:27.17 | Nash|327 | I WILL LOOK DOWN ON WHOEVER I WANT |
| 13:27.23 | pinzu | FINE |
| 13:27.34 | Nash|327 | Well, I am an anarchist. |
| 13:27.37 | Nash|327 | So, yeah. |
| 13:27.49 | mattavich-377 | lol as logn as your happy haha |
| 13:27.54 | mattavich-377 | anarchist lol |
| 13:28.10 | JamesW05 | well then start your own company then Nash|327 if you think you can do it better |
| 13:28.31 | Nash|327 | Who says I want to? |
| 13:29.01 | pinzu | you would, if you knew what to do ;] |
| 13:29.10 | pinzu | You just dont make companies out of thin air |
| 13:29.16 | Nash|327 | Why, so I can make money? |
| 13:29.16 | JamesW05 | well clearly you think your better, so if you have an issue of doing things the way someone else wants then only way you gonna get your way is to be in control |
| 13:29.35 | mattavich-377 | I think nash has a problem with authority, believes the world owes him something as so resides himself to being an "anarchist" because he's toos cared to take the world by the balls and find what he wants |
| 13:29.39 | JamesW05 | no so you can do things your way |
| 13:29.58 | JamesW05 | and have your employees call you a "stupid boss" too ;) |
| 13:30.08 | Nash|327 | Ah, bullshit psychoanalysis. |
| 13:30.16 | Nash|327 | Just what this conversation needed. |
| 13:30.36 | Nash|327 | I DIAGNOSE YOU OVER THE INTERNETS WITH MY MIGHTY FREUD BEAM! |
| 13:30.42 | pinzu | nah, we need realists |
| 13:30.42 | mattavich-377 | oh lord |
| 13:30.44 | mattavich-377 | stfu |
| 13:31.00 | Nash|327 | Indeed, I shall STFU by playing StarCraft 2. |
| 13:31.02 | JamesW05 | until you have been on the other side of the coin you dont understand that your boss is juggling alot more responsibilities and concerns than you are |
| 13:33.53 | thenk | noob question, how do i move the camera to center on a unit? |
| 13:34.17 | pinzu | the unit is the target |
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| 13:35.02 | pinzu | you'd want to use pan camera |
| 13:35.43 | pinzu | pan camera for player PLAYER to positionofunit(UNIT) .... |
| 13:45.49 | anteevy | can you somehow enable auto-cast on an ability with its hotkey (or simply with a left-click) instead of only when you rightclick on it? |
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| 13:55.05 | mattavich-377 | sickness |
| 13:55.06 | mattavich-377 | :D |
| 13:55.13 | mattavich-377 | starlock buddy |
| 13:55.21 | depthsofchaos | wutwut, ah ok |
| 13:56.54 | depthsofchaos | sec |
| 14:00.08 | depthsofchaos | we need more :o |
| 14:00.25 | thenk | anyone on SEA able to help test my map? |
| 14:01.30 | mattavich-377 | eu sorry |
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| 14:03.00 | RazielZ | Hmmm |
| 14:03.55 | thenk | god damn lobby is messing up my live game :( |
| 14:04.07 | thenk | any idea how to force it to 4 1man teams? |
| 14:04.15 | RazielZ | Notrly. |
| 14:04.28 | RazielZ | Now then, what could I use for yaw query on a marine model... |
| 14:04.31 | RazielZ | turret z doesn't work :< |
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| 14:04.53 | Azu | depthsofchaos friend is playing on my account :p |
| 14:05.08 | SweetZombieJesus | WHY |
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| 14:05.22 | SweetZombieJesus | why is 'you must construct additional pylons' the placeholder sound file??? |
| 14:05.27 | depthsofchaos | kick your friend |
| 14:06.27 | Azu | lols |
| 14:06.33 | Azu | he kicked himself :P |
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| 14:10.32 | thenk | anyone know where there is some examples of a starting thing which asks for FFA/1v1/etc ? |
| 14:10.39 | thenk | gives everyone a vote |
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| 14:19.12 | Dedo | homies |
| 14:19.15 | RazielZ | Crap crappity crapcrap |
| 14:19.27 | Dedo | holy crap |
| 14:19.29 | Gimpexe | hello |
| 14:19.31 | RazielZ | Yep |
| 14:19.32 | pinzu | lol "GIGO" |
| 14:19.49 | RazielZ | I've been trying to make a turret out of a marine for AGES |
| 14:19.51 | Dedo | is that what the kids are calling it today? |
| 14:20.19 | Dedo | turret out of a marine? |
| 14:20.20 | RazielZ | I have reached the conclusion that the marine doesn't have any turret z yaw query, or any yaw queery that works |
| 14:20.22 | RazielZ | >.> |
| 14:20.26 | thenk | anyone here on SEA? |
| 14:20.34 | RazielZ | can't I edit the marine's model and add a turret z axis or whatever it is? |
| 14:20.45 | Dedo | im on a boat, that is now diamonds |
| 14:20.54 | thenk | ^5 |
| 14:21.05 | RazielZ | Wait I ahve an ideea! |
| 14:21.11 | RazielZ | I make a turret that DOES ahve a turret z |
| 14:21.11 | Gimpexe | thenk im on SEA |
| 14:21.21 | RazielZ | And attach a marine model that faces the turret's facing! |
| 14:21.28 | Dedo | ideea? |
| 14:21.30 | RazielZ | And then when make the turret model invisible! |
| 14:21.38 | RazielZ | And then the marine's gonna rotate and shoot! |
| 14:21.55 | Dedo | just attach the marine to an invisble auto turret |
| 14:22.00 | merrillphish | anyone know a good tutorial for creating missiles |
| 14:22.02 | RazielZ | that's what I just said |
| 14:22.04 | RazielZ | >.> |
| 14:22.05 | Dedo | oh |
| 14:22.06 | Dedo | k |
| 14:22.12 | Dedo | oh kay |
| 14:22.16 | merrillphish | like i press spacebar |
| 14:22.19 | merrillphish | and i shoot a missle |
| 14:22.36 | Dedo | using keyboard is via triggers |
| 14:22.40 | merrillphish | not aimed at a unit |
| 14:23.01 | merrillphish | do i just make a unit with sucide ability? |
| 14:23.06 | RazielZ | You can find tutorials about making missiles around |
| 14:23.30 | RazielZ | You can make an ability and activate it with spacebar via trigger |
| 14:23.39 | RazielZ | Ability that fires a missile infront of your unit |
| 14:23.52 | Dedo | dont forget to add splash |
| 14:24.16 | merrillphish | ahh okay ty |
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| 14:31.30 | goomba_ | any of my campaigners here |
| 14:32.25 | SweetZombieJesus | who knows a good ebook site? |
| 14:32.57 | goomba_ | demonoid.com |
| 14:33.30 | SweetZombieJesus | i doubt it has what i need |
| 14:33.54 | goomba_ | i dont :P |
| 14:34.23 | goomba_ | unless you need a traditional chinese to pig latin dictionary |
| 14:34.35 | SweetZombieJesus | maybe tomorrow |
| 14:35.44 | pinzu | Does anyone have a strong argumenet for giving global warming crys the finger? |
| 14:35.55 | pinzu | =) |
| 14:36.17 | pinzu | (yes im actually studying, incredible...) |
| 14:36.28 | goomba_ | huskies newest video has wc2 music |
| 14:36.31 | goomba_ | bloody epic! |
| 14:37.54 | goomba_ | i miss warcraft 2 |
| 14:38.17 | Gwan | if i want a new beam weapon to hit multitarget I should make the weapon effect search area->damage right? |
| 14:38.56 | goomba_ | you need a search area effect |
| 14:39.24 | goomba_ | hmm |
| 14:39.32 | Xenrathe | anyone here conversant with banks? |
| 14:39.57 | merrillphish | Where is a good tutorial to create a missile that explodes when it collides with something? |
| 14:40.27 | Xenrathe | is the missile moving in 2d or 3d? |
| 14:40.40 | merrillphish | 2d |
| 14:41.00 | Xenrathe | Does the missile need to give kill credit? |
| 14:41.05 | Xenrathe | (to the one who fired it) |
| 14:41.12 | merrillphish | yes |
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| 14:41.33 | Xenrathe | That makes it more difficult then, but only slightly |
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| 14:42.31 | merrillphish | kill credit to player |
| 14:42.40 | Xenrathe | oh to the player is easy then |
| 14:42.40 | merrillphish | idk about kill credit to unit |
| 14:42.52 | Xenrathe | just give the missile unit a behavior which has a periodic effect: |
| 14:43.08 | Xenrathe | the periodic effect is a search area effect which causes an effect: commit suicide & deal damage in an area |
| 14:43.09 | merrillphish | do you know a tutorial |
| 14:43.12 | Xenrathe | Alas no |
| 14:43.17 | merrillphish | i am terrible at data editor |
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| 14:43.46 | merrillphish | is there a in game missile i can look at? |
| 14:44.02 | Xenrathe | actually there may be lemme find it |
| 14:44.07 | merrillphish | ty |
| 14:44.27 | RazielZ | How do I make a model actor invisible? |
| 14:44.28 | RazielZ | >.> |
| 14:44.37 | merrillphish | haha |
| 14:44.44 | merrillphish | what unit are you doing it too? |
| 14:44.46 | goomba_ | data editor is hard to learn lol |
| 14:44.47 | Leaderboard | Huesy I tested your movement library |
| 14:44.49 | Leaderboard | pretty awesome |
| 14:45.07 | AsaPhelps | i made missiles collide in my map but i don't know if its a method you want to be using |
| 14:45.18 | Xenrathe | merill you can look at the missiles from their arcade game |
| 14:45.21 | Clord | japanese strongbad variation came to mind.. guh |
| 14:45.23 | Clord | ugh |
| 14:45.23 | Clord | XD |
| 14:45.26 | merrillphish | yes that would work |
| 14:45.37 | anteevy | can you somehow enable auto-cast on an ability with its hotkey (or simply with a left-click) instead of only when you rightclick on it? |
| 14:45.39 | merrillphish | missiles are units? correct? |
| 14:45.42 | Xenrathe | For example SS_ScourgeMissile |
| 14:45.45 | Dogmai_ | yes |
| 14:45.46 | Xenrathe | yes, but there's several components |
| 14:46.04 | dogmai | shit |
| 14:46.04 | Xenrathe | You'll see the SS_ScourgeMissile has a behavior |
| 14:46.05 | merrillphish | to make the missle go |
| 14:46.10 | merrillphish | launch |
| 14:46.16 | merrillphish | do i use triggers |
| 14:46.22 | Xenrathe | you can use data |
| 14:46.23 | merrillphish | or is it abilities? |
| 14:46.39 | merrillphish | triggers are easier? |
| 14:46.51 | merrillphish | i am good with triggers |
| 14:46.56 | Xenrathe | Triggers are generally always easier but it depends on what you're doing |
| 14:47.12 | Xenrathe | Do you have a custom UI, are you using a key press to fire the missile? |
| 14:47.17 | Xenrathe | might want to go with triggers then |
| 14:47.19 | merrillphish | when i hit spacebar |
| 14:47.25 | merrillphish | i want to fire a missile |
| 14:47.28 | AsaPhelps | i find the data editor easier |
| 14:47.37 | Xenrathe | Then you might as well go with triggers |
| 14:47.39 | merrillphish | that explodes on impact or after x secs |
| 14:47.45 | merrillphish | alright |
| 14:47.46 | AsaPhelps | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/missile-command/files/3-missile-command-v-23/ thats my map if you want to look, its pretty terribad though |
| 14:47.50 | goomba_ | triggers make for bulkier maps and is poor mapping |
| 14:48.00 | merrillphish | ty so much |
| 14:48.09 | goomba_ | you should use data for anything you can ideally |
| 14:48.11 | goomba_ | afaik |
| 14:48.37 | RazielZ | opacity 0 means compeltely transparent right? |
| 14:48.43 | Dogmai | does anyone know how to disable the inventory button |
| 14:48.43 | SweetZombieJesus | 100 |
| 14:48.46 | SweetZombieJesus | is invis |
| 14:48.56 | Xenrathe | goomba is right though if I have a choice between spending 10 mins on a trigger or 1 hour on data manipulation, then I go for the trigger |
| 14:48.58 | goomba_ | you sure about that? |
| 14:49.05 | RazielZ | 100? |
| 14:49.09 | goomba_ | @szj |
| 14:49.11 | SweetZombieJesus | yes |
| 14:49.16 | SweetZombieJesus | i use it constantly for dialogs |
| 14:49.16 | RazielZ | It says between 0 and 1 |
| 14:49.21 | SweetZombieJesus | then 1 |
| 14:49.24 | RazielZ | It's an actor event set opacity action |
| 14:49.26 | RazielZ | k |
| 14:49.29 | SweetZombieJesus | 100 transparancy is invis |
| 14:49.33 | SweetZombieJesus | i use dialogs though |
| 14:49.42 | Xenrathe | Asa do you know anything about banks? |
| 14:49.56 | SweetZombieJesus | i still need a good name for my minigame map!!! |
| 14:50.02 | AsaPhelps | nope |
| 14:50.15 | RazielZ | nope it's 0 in here |
| 14:50.20 | RazielZ | transparency 1 = opacity 0 |
| 14:50.24 | RazielZ | :D |
| 14:51.01 | goomba_ | what does your game involve jesus |
| 14:51.07 | SweetZombieJesus | love how its different everywhere |
| 14:51.10 | SweetZombieJesus | no its minigames |
| 14:51.15 | RazielZ | Oh great |
| 14:51.22 | Xaragoth | it has math |
| 14:51.23 | Xaragoth | its bad. |
| 14:51.30 | SweetZombieJesus | 1 minigame... |
| 14:51.30 | RazielZ | If I attach a model to a model it just HAS tog et all it's properties including scale and opacity |
| 14:51.32 | RazielZ | Whyy? |
| 14:51.33 | SweetZombieJesus | fu btw |
| 14:51.34 | SweetZombieJesus | you suck at math |
| 14:51.35 | SweetZombieJesus | l2p |
| 14:51.36 | SweetZombieJesus | etc |
| 14:51.46 | Xaragoth | you shall not have minigames that look like school! |
| 14:51.52 | RazielZ | And more importantly how do I make them independent from the model I attache dit to? |
| 14:51.55 | Xaragoth | you shall have fun minigames with little cute banelings! |
| 14:51.57 | Xenrathe | because the default actor for attach model has all of those properties |
| 14:51.59 | goomba_ | wat is your minigame |
| 14:52.01 | RazielZ | I could use events tor eset them to what I want I guess |
| 14:52.05 | SweetZombieJesus | i was gonna start baneling map today |
| 14:52.17 | SweetZombieJesus | baneling minigame* |
| 14:52.17 | Xenrathe | attach model uses an actor, it just creates a default one |
| 14:52.30 | SweetZombieJesus | need to make lots though :< |
| 14:52.36 | SweetZombieJesus | gonna waste so much time in the data editor |
| 14:52.47 | Xenrathe | Raziel just create an actor and use attach actor instead |
| 14:53.28 | RazielZ | hmm |
| 14:53.44 | RazielZ | It is an actor |
| 14:53.45 | RazielZ | A model actor |
| 14:53.46 | RazielZ | <.< |
| 14:54.11 | RazielZ | It ried setting it's opacity on creation to 1, while the hosts sets to 0, but it's still 0 |
| 14:55.24 | Xenrathe | What does that actor model have checked under accepted property transfers? |
| 14:56.05 | RazielZ | Heh. |
| 14:56.06 | RazielZ | Everything |
| 14:56.11 | Xenrathe | >> |
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| 14:56.23 | Xenrathe | I think that should fix it |
| 14:58.17 | SweetZombieJesus | can you extract sound files from a flash file? |
| 14:58.22 | SweetZombieJesus | like a sound board |
| 15:00.04 | goomba_ | audacity |
| 15:00.20 | casperb | If you have the source document sure :p |
| 15:00.26 | casperb | otherwise it's tedious |
| 15:00.39 | casperb | just get the sounds from a better quality source |
| 15:00.56 | Xenrathe | Does anyone know anything about Data Tables? |
| 15:01.03 | casperb | Lots |
| 15:01.29 | casperb | It's a hash with glocal and thread local storage, now you are educated :p |
| 15:01.40 | casperb | anything specific? |
| 15:01.42 | Xenrathe | Yes |
| 15:01.48 | Xenrathe | Would a Data Table save between map loads? |
| 15:02.04 | casperb | try it |
| 15:02.06 | casperb | -.- |
| 15:02.36 | casperb | it should |
| 15:03.08 | casperb | but saving is done by blizzard and we don't have any details, and multiplayer maps don't save ususally so haven't bothered looking into native save/load |
| 15:03.19 | Xenrathe | But if I were to, say, close SC2 and then load it back up, the data tables would no longer be there? i.e. they are stored in some cache and not on the hard-drive |
| 15:04.06 | casperb | stored in memory, along with everything else |
| 15:04.48 | RazielZ | Jeez |
| 15:04.56 | RazielZ | I only hae one autoturret model attahced but two show up |
| 15:05.04 | RazielZ | One sits there and de snothing while the other tracks enemies |
| 15:05.12 | casperb | evil twin syndrome |
| 15:05.23 | Xenrathe | Yeah Blizz is going to patch ETS |
| 15:05.25 | Xenrathe | soon |
| 15:05.45 | RazielZ | Well it's not bothering me because when I set opacity to 0 they're both invisible |
| 15:06.05 | RazielZ | However, I have a marine model attache dto the autoturret model and I want it torotate with the autoturret to track enemies |
| 15:06.38 | Acemore | sup casperb! |
| 15:06.40 | RazielZ | But apparently just attaching him to the auto turret model didn't do the trick, so how do I make him rotate with the invisible turret? |
| 15:06.41 | RazielZ | <.< |
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| 15:07.07 | Acemore | cas cas cas how's your project going? |
| 15:07.27 | Xenrathe | Why don't you try attaching him to the turret |
| 15:07.31 | Xenrathe | instead of the auto turret? |
| 15:08.00 | RazielZ | To the turret actor? |
| 15:08.04 | RazielZ | Interesting. |
| 15:08.05 | thenk | how do i make a timer i can modify? |
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| 15:08.15 | thenk | like to increase spawn time |
| 15:09.03 | thenk | ive currently got events = timer - every (abs(spawntime1) seconds of Game Time) as a trigger |
| 15:09.18 | thenk | my research sets the variable to 1 but it doesnt pick up |
| 15:09.45 | casperb | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/9538-custom-score-results/ :P |
| 15:09.48 | RazielZ | Well it doesn't work, he doesn't show up |
| 15:09.53 | casperb | solve it guys :D |
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| 15:10.15 | Xenrathe | Integers in Galaxy are how many bits? |
| 15:10.23 | casperb | 32 |
| 15:10.36 | Acemore | sup cas |
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| 15:10.43 | casperb | waddap ace |
| 15:10.44 | Acemore | :) |
| 15:10.51 | Acemore | how's your project going? |
| 15:10.54 | casperb | Semester has started fulltime -.- |
| 15:11.00 | Xenrathe | Banks can store 80 integers max? |
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| 15:11.03 | casperb | Only got time to sit and draw naked ladies >.< |
| 15:11.04 | Acemore | hehe, gl wih that :) |
| 15:11.16 | Acemore | well, could be worse i guess, lol |
| 15:11.24 | casperb | We get old fat guys too |
| 15:11.32 | casperb | Know the assistant from borat? |
| 15:11.34 | Acemore | rofl |
| 15:11.37 | casperb | Pretty sure that was him |
| 15:11.41 | Acemore | hahaa |
| 15:12.00 | Acemore | so what are you saying |
| 15:12.02 | Acemore | no mapping 4 u? |
| 15:12.26 | casperb | not much, just answering people mostly :o |
| 15:12.47 | RazielZ | How do I use target in events in the data editor? Do I type in the ID of the target, like.. Marine? <.< |
| 15:13.02 | casperb | define target |
| 15:13.10 | casperb | there's no concept of a target in an event :p |
| 15:13.45 | casperb | are registration parameters for certain events |
| 15:14.01 | casperb | then the callback arguments |
| 15:14.08 | RazielZ | Yeah, I mean in event, the action, it has a target field |
| 15:14.16 | RazielZ | Target then msgType |
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| 15:15.18 | casperb | does not compute |
| 15:16.06 | casperb | screenie if you can do it quick, gotta run :p |
| 15:16.10 | RazielZ | Mmmk it doesn't work anyway |
| 15:18.03 | RazielZ | When/if someone can tell me how to transfer the rotation from a model to another (the "another" one being attached to the first one too!) they get a cookie |
| 15:22.23 | Gwan | finnnaly |
| 15:22.34 | Gwan | got a fucking beam to actually show up :D |
| 15:25.45 | Fisker | custom games are hosted by battle.net as well right? |
| 15:25.56 | Sixen | Yup |
| 15:26.14 | Sixen | I finally got Diamond Solo last night ;) |
| 15:26.19 | ckknight | grats, Sixen |
| 15:26.28 | Sixen | ty, ty |
| 15:26.42 | Sixen | Now i'm... Diamond, Diamond, Platinum, Platinum in solo, 2s, 3s, 4s, =) |
| 15:26.59 | Otixa | smacks Sixen |
| 15:27.32 | thenk | anyone know a good tute for simple ai? i just need the computer to defend a few points and try to attack a few with whatever units it has |
| 15:27.48 | Sixen | thenk, there's a few AI's already out if you want to check them out |
| 15:28.08 | Sixen | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/628234708#2 |
| 15:28.21 | thenk | cool thanks |
| 15:28.23 | Sixen | oh shit, I have to go to class now |
| 15:28.26 | Sixen | be back in an hour |
| 15:28.31 | thenk | later dude |
| 15:28.39 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:33.31 | goomba_ | been diamond since beta sup |
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| 15:36.00 | goomba_ | im also a hero in lego univers |
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| 15:40.34 | Clord | lol |
| 15:40.36 | Clord | lego univserse |
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| 15:43.36 | Tordecybombo | hi |
| 15:43.37 | Tordecybombo | guys |
| 15:44.01 | Tordecybombo | what's the best way of reflecting damage back at the attacker? |
| 15:44.44 | Tordecybombo | Here's the way I want it: Reflect some variable x% of damage to the attaker, so the defender will be hit with 100% - x% of the damage while the attacker will be hit by x% of the damage |
| 15:45.06 | Tordecybombo | im guessing something with behaviors and damage response? |
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| 15:52.20 | Nash|327 | I did it with triggers, but then I wanted a random chance to occur |
| 15:52.23 | depthsofchaos | youd have to apply a behaviour to every unit that attacks imo and add validator |
| 15:52.39 | depthsofchaos | no better method |
| 15:52.43 | depthsofchaos | in data |
| 15:53.15 | Nash|327 | basically unit is attacked in melee, randomize variable, if variable certain values apply behavior to attacker |
| 15:53.25 | Nash|327 | A passive stun against melee attackers |
| 15:54.48 | Nash|327 | you could just do set health on attacker based on damage amount |
| 15:55.00 | Tordecybombo | how does the behavior take the amount of damage |
| 15:55.27 | Nash|327 | oh, my behavior is a stun |
| 15:55.47 | Tordecybombo | yea mine is a damage, how does it retrieve a % of damage of the attacker? |
| 15:55.58 | depthsofchaos | you use negative lifesteal |
| 15:56.05 | Nash|327 | well, when you use Any unit is attacked |
| 15:56.12 | Nash|327 | you can get the damage amount, IIRC |
| 15:56.22 | Nash|327 | then some math |
| 15:56.25 | Nash|327 | VOILA! |
| 15:56.39 | Tordecybombo | i'd rather not do it with triggers but if it's the only way ok |
| 15:56.49 | depthsofchaos | you use negative lifesteal |
| 15:56.52 | Nash|327 | people hatin' on triggers |
| 15:57.00 | depthsofchaos | triggers are badd :o |
| 15:57.09 | Nash|327 | triggers are often easier |
| 15:57.21 | Tordecybombo | i dont hate on it i just like to feel more consistent by putting all unit abilities in data |
| 15:57.26 | depthsofchaos | easier but less effective in return |
| 15:57.30 | Tordecybombo | makes it easier to use as a mod too |
| 15:57.32 | Nash|327 | but hey, have fun dicking around with the data editor for hours |
| 15:58.01 | Tordecybombo | so what is this negative lifesteal |
| 15:58.05 | Tordecybombo | where do i see this |
| 15:58.08 | depthsofchaos | an event on every damage done is pretty big |
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| 15:58.35 | depthsofchaos | on buffs |
| 15:58.40 | depthsofchaos | theres an option |
| 15:58.49 | Nash|327 | life steal would be on the attacker though :G |
| 15:59.01 | Tordecybombo | hence negative im guessing |
| 15:59.02 | depthsofchaos | thats what we need :o |
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| 15:59.33 | Nash|327 | then you'd have to add that buff to every attacker and it would steal negative health when attacking any unit |
| 15:59.53 | Tordecybombo | it doesnt actually drain though right |
| 15:59.56 | Tordecybombo | i dont want it to drain |
| 16:00.03 | Tordecybombo | in a sense the defender gains hp from it |
| 16:00.08 | depthsofchaos | no |
| 16:00.46 | depthsofchaos | but you can only apply it after the first shot |
| 16:01.23 | Tordecybombo | wait i cant apply it before the first damage? |
| 16:01.47 | depthsofchaos | well you can if you add it to every unit by default |
| 16:01.58 | depthsofchaos | if you only add it from the special units side |
| 16:02.40 | Tordecybombo | if this is a behavior, doesn't it need to have some sort of duration? |
| 16:03.24 | Tordecybombo | what if in the case im dealing with splash damage? The attacker hits 2 defenders, yet only 1 of the defender has reflective ability |
| 16:03.53 | depthsofchaos | well needs to be validated |
| 16:04.22 | Tordecybombo | 3 |
| 16:04.36 | Tordecybombo | 3 |
| 16:04.38 | Tordecybombo | : |
| 16:04.40 | Tordecybombo | 3 |
| 16:08.53 | Nash|327 | this is why you use TRIGGURZ |
| 16:09.12 | Nash|327 | I do agree it's nicer to use Data Editor. |
| 16:09.16 | Nash|327 | But not at any cost. |
| 16:09.33 | SweetZombieJesus | how come i cant select my unit? :< |
| 16:09.38 | SweetZombieJesus | ive set flags correctly |
| 16:09.51 | SweetZombieJesus | what else can it be? |
| 16:09.51 | Tordecybombo | sweet |
| 16:09.52 | Tordecybombo | zombie |
| 16:09.54 | Tordecybombo | JESUS |
| 16:10.16 | Tordecybombo | someone give me a name for a protoss unit that reflects psionic powers |
| 16:10.25 | Nash|327 | It's a trade off of map efficiency and consistency vs. time efficiency and convenience |
| 16:11.00 | Tordecybombo | dont say reflector |
| 16:11.08 | mattavich-377 | Call it Jose Mourinhio |
| 16:11.11 | Nash|327 | Nobody ever listens to my names D: |
| 16:11.18 | Tordecybombo | SUGGEST!!! :) |
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| 16:11.21 | Tordecybombo | ineed a name |
| 16:11.30 | mattavich-377 | Steven Gerarrd |
| 16:11.33 | Tordecybombo | it's a generic name, not a special hero |
| 16:11.37 | depthsofchaos | mojojojo |
| 16:11.51 | mattavich-377 | Psionic Ball Zealot |
| 16:11.55 | Tordecybombo | psioNO |
| 16:11.57 | Nash|327 | Psi Mirror? |
| 16:12.00 | Tordecybombo | Psiono |
| 16:12.01 | Tordecybombo | xd |
| 16:12.05 | Tordecybombo | that kinda works |
| 16:12.08 | treepio | Bumbo Longfeet |
| 16:12.14 | treepio | :) |
| 16:12.43 | Nash|327 | if you don't want REFLECTOR you need to find similar words or words of things that reflect |
| 16:12.43 | Tordecybombo | im reading the lore for anythinig i can find |
| 16:12.44 | Tordecybombo | http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Psionics |
| 16:13.03 | Tordecybombo | thesaurus "reflect" |
| 16:13.07 | Tordecybombo | guess what it comes up with |
| 16:13.20 | mattavich-377 | gay? |
| 16:13.27 | Tordecybombo | THE PROTOSS ECHOER |
| 16:13.30 | Tordecybombo | no wait |
| 16:13.34 | depthsofchaos | cockblock! |
| 16:13.47 | Tordecybombo | come on guys |
| 16:13.52 | Tordecybombo | get your name thinking caps on |
| 16:14.09 | depthsofchaos | retaliator |
| 16:14.28 | treepio | The RTFM Man |
| 16:14.29 | mattavich-377 | I'm calling my monster |
| 16:14.34 | mattavich-377 | Reina the Obelisk God |
| 16:14.55 | Tordecybombo | i associate retaliation with more direct counters |
| 16:15.01 | FahqueL | call him "goodyear" |
| 16:15.03 | Tordecybombo | not like something with reflective armor |
| 16:15.06 | FahqueL | cause hes made of rubber |
| 16:15.13 | FahqueL | or the michelin man |
| 16:15.23 | mattavich-377 | Maradonna |
| 16:15.32 | Tordecybombo | what did the purifier do in SC2 |
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| 16:15.37 | Tordecybombo | not the mothership |
| 16:15.39 | Tordecybombo | the beta unit |
| 16:15.41 | Nash|327 | All the unit does is reflect psionic powers? |
| 16:15.42 | Tordecybombo | or the scrapped unit |
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| 16:15.43 | mattavich-377 | bob the builder |
| 16:15.56 | Tordecybombo | Psionic Purifier kinda makes sense |
| 16:16.00 | Tordecybombo | not really |
| 16:16.16 | Tordecybombo | not exactly reflects psionic powers |
| 16:16.23 | mattavich-377 | i called units on my map john connor and crap liek that |
| 16:16.23 | Tordecybombo | just reflect damage back at psionic units |
| 16:16.24 | mattavich-377 | ed-209 |
| 16:16.37 | Tordecybombo | since psionic units have psionic powers ooooo |
| 16:16.38 | Tordecybombo | get it |
| 16:17.04 | Tordecybombo | anyone know the lore behind protoss shields? |
| 16:17.07 | Tordecybombo | are they psionic based? |
| 16:17.10 | depthsofchaos | come its just a damn unit not your baby |
| 16:17.22 | Tordecybombo | fine i'll just give it a funny name |
| 16:17.27 | Nash|327 | is that the same unit that damages attackers? |
| 16:17.36 | treepio | The galaxy editor coding. If I want to make custom code. Whats the language?. C++ ? |
| 16:17.43 | Tordecybombo | C-ish |
| 16:17.49 | treepio | ty |
| 16:17.52 | Tordecybombo | uses structs and stuff |
| 16:17.58 | depthsofchaos | has no pointers :o |
| 16:18.06 | Tordecybombo | yea that too |
| 16:18.07 | Nash|327 | because that's retaliation |
| 16:18.13 | Tordecybombo | not on my watch! |
| 16:18.18 | Nash|327 | if you take damage and deal damage back |
| 16:18.28 | Nash|327 | reflect would be not taking damage |
| 16:18.30 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 16:18.36 | treepio | Been trying for many hours this last week to make something using the editor . But can't get it working.. so custom code is needed |
| 16:18.40 | Tordecybombo | reflect a portion of the damage ok |
| 16:19.00 | Nash|327 | Retaliation. |
| 16:19.15 | goomba_ | cant wait for the goddamn tank enrf |
| 16:19.15 | Nash|327 | You're not even reflecting a portion. |
| 16:19.16 | goomba_ | nerf |
| 16:19.16 | treepio | Tordecobombo: What are you trying to do ? |
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| 16:19.21 | goomba_ | 5 tanks kill 50 hydras |
| 16:19.22 | Tordecybombo | like i said i associate retaliation more with direct counters, the defender would take full damage from the attacker's attack BUT the defender would immediately "retaliate" with its own attack |
| 16:19.23 | mattavich-377 | i hate low crappy units with big names |
| 16:19.27 | mattavich-377 | it is pointless |
| 16:19.30 | mattavich-377 | they are the low levels |
| 16:19.33 | mattavich-377 | they need a generic name |
| 16:19.50 | Tordecybombo | im not looking for big names |
| 16:19.52 | Nash|327 | AVENGER |
| 16:19.54 | Tordecybombo | just some |
| 16:19.56 | Tordecybombo | simple |
| 16:20.00 | Tordecybombo | name |
| 16:20.04 | mattavich-377 | so psionic zealot or something |
| 16:20.13 | Nash|327 | Psionic Avenger. |
| 16:20.14 | Nash|327 | kek |
| 16:20.15 | Tordecybombo | THE REFLECTOR |
| 16:20.19 | Tordecybombo | xd |
| 16:20.21 | mattavich-377 | ? |
| 16:20.22 | treepio | "Noob Warrior", "Newbie dude".. great names :) |
| 16:20.23 | Tordecybombo | i said no reflector |
| 16:20.23 | mattavich-377 | "the"? |
| 16:20.32 | Tordecybombo | the "the" is just added as a touch |
| 16:20.36 | Tordecybombo | not gonna be the actual part of name |
| 16:20.40 | mattavich-377 | its silly |
| 16:20.42 | mattavich-377 | lol |
| 16:20.46 | mattavich-377 | ok |
| 16:20.54 | Tordecybombo | just like people say THE PROTOSS "zealot" |
| 16:21.01 | Nash|327 | THE PUNISHER |
| 16:21.08 | Tordecybombo | THE RETALIATOR? |
| 16:21.14 | mattavich-377 | *rollseyes* |
| 16:21.16 | Tordecybombo | avenger sounds too heroey |
| 16:21.34 | Tordecybombo | and it's like the unit is doing an act of revenge |
| 16:21.37 | mattavich-377 | i have a low lvl zealot in my map |
| 16:21.41 | Nash|327 | Well, it is. |
| 16:21.42 | mattavich-377 | i called it scythe zealot |
| 16:21.44 | Tordecybombo | not because of his passive ability of reflecting damage |
| 16:21.45 | mattavich-377 | my zerglings |
| 16:21.50 | mattavich-377 | razorback zerglings |
| 16:21.55 | mattavich-377 | obelisk marine |
| 16:21.57 | mattavich-377 | low lvls |
| 16:21.58 | Nash|327 | You overthink. |
| 16:22.02 | Tordecybombo | no i dont |
| 16:22.04 | Nash|327 | I give up. |
| 16:22.13 | Tordecybombo | THE |
| 16:22.19 | Nash|327 | ENJOY YOUR DICTIONARY, SIR |
| 16:22.25 | depthsofchaos | my workers are called Igor -.- |
| 16:22.28 | Tordecybombo | yea im looking up the thesaurus right now |
| 16:22.33 | Tordecybombo | THE REPURCUSSER |
| 16:22.43 | Helral | depthsofchaos: do you have any olga's? |
| 16:22.49 | depthsofchaos | no :p |
| 16:23.00 | Tordecybombo | the protoss mirror |
| 16:23.02 | Tordecybombo | xd |
| 16:23.18 | Nash|327 | I said Mirror. |
| 16:23.25 | Nash|327 | IT WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH |
| 16:23.35 | Tordecybombo | that's why i xd'd |
| 16:23.38 | Nash|327 | MR FANCY WORDS |
| 16:23.43 | Tordecybombo | what does the Tempest do |
| 16:23.45 | mattavich-377 | just them psionic shield zealots or somehting |
| 16:23.45 | Tordecybombo | in SC2 |
| 16:23.50 | depthsofchaos | just allow the players to name the unit themselves, solved |
| 16:24.17 | Nash|327 | Great, have unit called penisman |
| 16:24.20 | depthsofchaos | 20 minutes into the game: do you think reflector is good enough? |
| 16:24.26 | Nash|327 | Just what I've always wanted |
| 16:24.28 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 16:24.33 | Tordecybombo | what does a mind flayer do |
| 16:24.36 | mattavich-377 | reflector zealot. done |
| 16:24.38 | mattavich-377 | use that |
| 16:24.38 | Tordecybombo | Psionic Flayer |
| 16:24.39 | Tordecybombo | YES |
| 16:24.44 | mattavich-377 | make sno sense |
| 16:24.47 | mattavich-377 | sounds too important |
| 16:24.47 | Tordecybombo | i know |
| 16:24.51 | Tordecybombo | no it doesnt |
| 16:24.56 | goomba_ | my campaigners dont read our forums >:| |
| 16:25.04 | Tordecybombo | Psionic Flayer is perfect im usin it |
| 16:25.07 | mattavich-377 | ok |
| 16:25.09 | Tordecybombo | even though Flayer doesnt mean anyhting |
| 16:25.09 | Nash|327 | Sounds nonsensical |
| 16:25.31 | goomba_ | are we doing tooltip naming?? |
| 16:25.35 | goomba_ | im a pro at tooltip naming |
| 16:25.36 | Nash|327 | PSIONIC FAILER |
| 16:25.48 | Tordecybombo | that makes it even better |
| 16:25.59 | Tordecybombo | when People fail to use the Psionic Flayer, they'll scream Psionic FAILURE |
| 16:26.11 | Tordecybombo | it's already got derogatory terms |
| 16:26.14 | Tordecybombo | awesome |
| 16:26.36 | goomba_ | http://a.imageshack.us/img228/7714/eggback.png |
| 16:26.41 | goomba_ | cool reskin no? |
| 16:26.49 | goomba_ | if that effect was applied throughout |
| 16:26.50 | treepio | Anyone got code for chosing a player depending on the player with fewest kills of unit type?. Been trying for a long time. |
| 16:26.52 | Tordecybombo | THE PSIONIC LAMBASTER |
| 16:27.21 | Tordecybombo | THE PSIONIC ADMONISHER |
| 16:27.50 | Tordecybombo | thenk |
| 16:27.56 | Tordecybombo | the protoss rooj |
| 16:28.09 | Tordecybombo | im desperate, just going to look at the usernames for names |
| 16:28.13 | Tordecybombo | The Protoss SweetZombieJesus |
| 16:28.30 | Tordecybombo | The Protoss Treepio |
| 16:28.38 | Tordecybombo | The Protoss Sholdak |
| 16:28.42 | SweetZombieJesus | dont highlight people for no reason |
| 16:28.50 | Tordecybombo | The Protoss |
| 16:29.03 | Tordecybombo | The Protoss Sixen |
| 16:29.21 | Tordecybombo | sixen sounds like a cool name for a unit |
| 16:30.30 | mattavich-377 | Master Warlock Ultimate Negamare |
| 16:30.38 | Tordecybombo | oh god im so stupid |
| 16:30.40 | Tordecybombo | finally found a name |
| 16:30.41 | Tordecybombo | it's perfect |
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| 16:30.47 | Tordecybombo | it's just one term |
| 16:30.52 | Tordecybombo | and it's used in almost every game |
| 16:30.55 | Tordecybombo | but not in Starcraft 2 |
| 16:30.55 | Tordecybombo | ! |
| 16:31.19 | treepio | bob |
| 16:31.34 | Tordecybombo | well it's one of the scrapped units in SC2 |
| 16:31.36 | Tordecybombo | but it works |
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| 16:37.52 | Xaax | To fire multiple projectiles that have different movement patterns simultaneously is it necessary to create a projectile unit for each of them? |
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| 16:40.02 | Xaax | For instance, let's say I have 2 missiles that I want to fire at the same time and I want 1 to arc towards the target from above and the other to arc towards the target from the side. |
| 16:43.53 | Tordecybombo | ok i need help agan, this time with pathing |
| 16:44.15 | Tordecybombo | ok forget it nvm |
| 16:44.21 | Tordecybombo | this is way too tricky |
| 16:45.05 | goomba_ | such is galaxy editor |
| 16:45.30 | Tordecybombo | hi goomba |
| 16:45.35 | goomba_ | sup |
| 16:48.00 | treepio | in events. how would I set any unit with the type of pylon dies ? |
| 16:48.30 | Sixen | hai goomba |
| 16:48.38 | goomba_ | hello dr sixen |
| 16:48.50 | goomba_ | how are you doing this fine day, sir |
| 16:49.53 | Sixen | on campus |
| 16:49.55 | Sixen | I hate it |
| 16:50.03 | goomba_ | what campus? |
| 16:50.52 | Sixen | ASU |
| 16:51.07 | goomba_ | oh |
| 16:51.14 | goomba_ | so youre in the desert |
| 16:51.15 | Tordecybombo | oh gosh ASU :3 |
| 16:51.20 | goomba_ | so its like 106 today |
| 16:51.36 | goomba_ | you know what would make you feel better? 2v2 xD |
| 16:51.38 | Tordecybombo | sixen can a name a unit after you |
| 16:51.56 | Tordecybombo | just kidding but seriously |
| 16:52.00 | goomba_ | nintendo did that to me, i'm still waiting for my court settlement money |
| 16:52.23 | Tordecybombo | holy moly lurkers would've been far too awesome in SC2 |
| 16:52.30 | Tordecybombo | They had a +3 range upgrade |
| 16:52.38 | Tordecybombo | so that gives them 9 range |
| 16:52.44 | Sixen | do it |
| 16:52.44 | Tordecybombo | so essentially underground collosi |
| 16:52.45 | Sixen | :) |
| 16:52.47 | goomba_ | compared to tanks 9 |
| 16:52.53 | goomba_ | coloosi 9 |
| 16:52.55 | goomba_ | viking 11 thor 11 |
| 16:52.57 | Sixen | goomba, I don't have sc2 on my laptop |
| 16:53.00 | Sixen | otherwise i'd be playing right now ) |
| 16:53.05 | goomba_ | of course! |
| 16:53.10 | Sixen | I got Diamond Solo last night |
| 16:53.10 | Tordecybombo | tanks 13 |
| 16:53.15 | Tordecybombo | thor 10 |
| 16:53.20 | goomba_ | hows your win-loss? |
| 16:53.20 | Tordecybombo | viking i forget |
| 16:53.22 | Tordecybombo | 10 maybe |
| 16:53.28 | Sixen | ~ 30-15 |
| 16:53.29 | purl | 15 |
| 16:53.31 | goomba_ | w/e point being |
| 16:53.32 | Tordecybombo | did you really |
| 16:53.39 | Dogmai | Is there anyway to disable the inventory button so the inventory is active but invisible persay |
| 16:53.39 | Tordecybombo | diamond is solo is where real men stay |
| 16:53.44 | Sixen | Agree. |
| 16:53.51 | Tordecybombo | 2v2 is all cheese |
| 16:53.55 | Tordecybombo | almost |
| 16:53.58 | goomba_ | hold on for my personal gloating... |
| 16:54.13 | goomba_ | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/266193/1/goomba/ |
| 16:54.32 | goomba_ | and i play with a handicap every single game! |
| 16:54.39 | Tordecybombo | no way |
| 16:54.42 | goomba_ | yep |
| 16:54.44 | goomba_ | i choose zerg |
| 16:54.51 | Tordecybombo | oh THAT handicap |
| 16:54.55 | goomba_ | the biggest one |
| 16:55.15 | Tordecybombo | well it's not so big anymore after Slush and Idra proved some Terrans wrong |
| 16:55.16 | goomba_ | oh wow, i just realized |
| 16:55.26 | goomba_ | Zerglot |
| 16:55.26 | goomba_ | While playing as Zerg, warp in a Zealot in a Melee game. |
| 16:55.36 | goomba_ | i got that from using a teammates warpgate |
| 16:55.38 | Sixen | Yeah, how's that work? |
| 16:55.39 | goomba_ | rofl |
| 16:55.47 | goomba_ | well i thought you had to NP a probe |
| 16:55.48 | Sixen | Supposed to infest a probe or something? |
| 16:55.55 | goomba_ | then move up the tech tree |
| 16:55.57 | Sixen | That's a bug then :P |
| 16:55.58 | Tordecybombo | yea i was assuming that |
| 16:56.04 | Tordecybombo | that would be a huge pain |
| 16:56.05 | goomba_ | but apparently you can just use your allies warp gates |
| 16:56.10 | Tordecybombo | wel now it just makes it a lot easier |
| 16:56.30 | Tordecybombo | wait what how do you use your allies warp |
| 16:56.45 | goomba_ | select gateways |
| 16:56.46 | goomba_ | z |
| 16:56.50 | goomba_ | it was after the guy left |
| 16:56.53 | Tordecybombo | oh |
| 16:57.05 | goomba_ | you dont get the ultra convinient W keybind |
| 16:57.18 | goomba_ | but you can still control group em old fasion :P |
| 16:57.20 | Tordecybombo | is it possible to remove that W keybind in galaxy |
| 16:57.28 | goomba_ | most likely |
| 16:57.31 | Tordecybombo | or is it just hardcoded into the warping ability |
| 16:57.36 | Tordecybombo | because i cant find it anywhere |
| 16:57.52 | goomba_ | id say theres most likely a way in |
| 16:57.55 | goomba_ | to do it |
| 16:58.00 | Tordecybombo | a very secret way |
| 16:58.04 | Tordecybombo | stomp on goombas |
| 16:58.06 | goomba_ | sixen! stick the irc quote thread |
| 16:58.06 | goomba_ | lol |
| 16:58.38 | goomba_ | stomping on me is unadvised |
| 16:58.47 | Tordecybombo | 9 range lurkers is too awesome |
| 16:58.49 | Tordecybombo | that's OP as shit |
| 16:58.53 | goomba_ | no its not lol |
| 16:58.58 | goomba_ | its the siege unit zerg needs |
| 16:58.58 | Tordecybombo | yes it is! |
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| 16:59.02 | Ashamed | good morning guys |
| 16:59.07 | goomba_ | hi |
| 16:59.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dogmai_ (Dogmai@124.150.36.142) |
| 16:59.30 | Tordecybombo | 6 range lurkers is already great |
| 16:59.41 | goomba_ | zerg has no siege until tier 2395789 |
| 16:59.41 | Tordecybombo | 9 range will just make them super ogod |
| 16:59.42 | goomba_ | brood lords |
| 16:59.52 | goomba_ | which require air superiority support |
| 16:59.52 | Tordecybombo | technically lurkers are tier 3 too |
| 16:59.58 | Tordecybombo | at least in SC2 that is |
| 17:00.03 | goomba_ | 2.5 |
| 17:00.06 | goomba_ | not hive tech |
| 17:00.11 | Tordecybombo | i love you goomba |
| 17:00.19 | goomba_ | i love you too tordecybombo |
| 17:00.26 | goomba_ | but still |
| 17:00.29 | goomba_ | lurkers necessary |
| 17:00.30 | goomba_ | :D |
| 17:00.34 | Tordecybombo | agreed |
| 17:00.45 | Tordecybombo | roaches and banelings replace lurkers my ass |
| 17:00.48 | Tordecybombo | JUST GIVE US THE DAMN LURKERS |
| 17:00.53 | goomba_ | banelings good vs infantry |
| 17:00.55 | goomba_ | at melee range |
| 17:00.59 | goomba_ | +to light |
| 17:01.05 | goomba_ | lurker do + armored and have huge range |
| 17:01.09 | goomba_ | and only attack while burrowed |
| 17:01.18 | goomba_ | sounds overlapped to me lolll |
| 17:01.26 | Tordecybombo | the splash damage is what makes lurkers so good |
| 17:01.42 | Tordecybombo | splash damage will rape clustered light small units, +armor damage will just hurt |
| 17:02.23 | treepio | I can't find a variable option for : Variable - Set score[(Killing player)] = (score[(Killing player)] + 1) . Do I need to make it in custom code ? |
| 17:02.39 | Tordecybombo | Blizzard's logic is Roach as burrow mover + Baneling splash damage = Lurker |
| 17:02.50 | Tordecybombo | yea makes sense |
| 17:02.52 | treepio | killing player = triggering player |
| 17:03.15 | Tordecybombo | but their real reason is obviously for the $ |
| 17:03.20 | Tordecybombo | they'll put lurkers in the expansion |
| 17:03.22 | Sixen | hrm |
| 17:03.23 | Sixen | ok |
| 17:03.26 | Tordecybombo | people will have to buy the expansion then |
| 17:03.33 | Tordecybombo | because so many want lurkers back |
| 17:03.54 | treepio | I play protoss, I don't want lurkers back.. unless they make it an Protoiss unit :) |
| 17:04.00 | Tordecybombo | :[ |
| 17:04.14 | Tordecybombo | lurkers are what zerg needs against terran! |
| 17:04.29 | treepio | Lurkers are what Protoss need against terran :) |
| 17:04.45 | Tordecybombo | i just realized Clord has a featured map on EU |
| 17:04.48 | Tordecybombo | someone congrat Clord for me |
| 17:04.49 | Tordecybombo | just od it |
| 17:04.51 | Tordecybombo | do it |
| 17:04.58 | Tordecybombo | I would but im shy |
| 17:05.35 | treepio | Siege tanks need their range reduced. then Zerg can have lurkers. :). |
| 17:05.35 | RazielZ | Ohaaaai, I'm back. |
| 17:05.57 | Tordecybombo | nah siege tanks got hit the nerf bat enough |
| 17:06.19 | Tordecybombo | went from 60 damage to 50 to 35 | +15 vs AR |
| 17:06.45 | RazielZ | So I got a turret actor model and a turret actor set to it, and a marine model attached to the same structure. How do I make the marine and the turret share rotation? As in, the marine follow the turret? |
| 17:06.46 | Tordecybombo | reapers getting nerfed too XFD suck it Terrans! |
| 17:06.58 | treepio | why reapers.. |
| 17:07.21 | Tordecybombo | because they're apologizing for making terrans so op |
| 17:07.32 | treepio | But reapers aren't the problem :) |
| 17:07.42 | Tordecybombo | done |
| 17:07.51 | Tordecybombo | the GRIM reaper has arrived |
| 17:08.10 | RazielZ | So whoever gives me a working soltuion gets several cookies |
| 17:08.24 | treepio | Why is coding a map so hard... Easier to make an economic system... |
| 17:08.25 | Tordecybombo | are they chocolate chip cookies? |
| 17:08.43 | Greedape | the old problem again :3 |
| 17:09.29 | Greedape | anyone here good with banks? i seem to get them to work just how i want them to work, but saving them.. just doesnt work.. i can only call saved variables in the same match, not after map reload -.- |
| 17:12.18 | Tordecybombo | preload them |
| 17:12.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dogmai^ (Dogmai@124.150.36.142) |
| 17:12.32 | Dogmai^ | stuff mirc =\ |
| 17:12.37 | Greedape | i did |
| 17:12.40 | Dogmai^ | 3x Dogmais now |
| 17:12.44 | Tordecybombo | preload them again |
| 17:12.51 | Greedape | i save them after i write stuff into them and i preload them after map load |
| 17:12.59 | goomba_ | woo just raped a zvz |
| 17:13.01 | goomba_ | with a nydus |
| 17:13.05 | goomba_ | banelings in yo face! |
| 17:13.09 | Xaax | Anyone know how I would go about making multiple projectiles fire at the same time from a weapon and move differently from each other? |
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| 17:13.18 | Tordecybombo | did you use literals for your bank names? |
| 17:13.27 | Dogmai- | I had to talk ... |
| 17:13.35 | Dogmai- | Figured out, minimizing in windows 7 crashes the client |
| 17:13.47 | Tordecybombo | type out the actual name value instead of using a variable |
| 17:14.37 | Otixa | roars |
| 17:14.59 | RazielZ | Great now not only I can't get them to rotate with the turret, now they're invisible too |
| 17:16.19 | Greedape | mhh |
| 17:17.45 | Tordecybombo | what |
| 17:17.48 | Tordecybombo | !? |
| 17:17.50 | Tordecybombo | tell us!!!! |
| 17:18.09 | Greedape | im using only actual names now |
| 17:18.25 | Greedape | and im using A01 as the name, the most basic one i yould think of (lawl) |
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| 17:19.00 | MysT_DooM | SC2 Lan is in the works |
| 17:19.18 | Tordecybombo | really |
| 17:19.20 | Tordecybombo | souce |
| 17:19.23 | Tordecybombo | source |
| 17:19.26 | Tordecybombo | because i wish it was |
| 17:19.31 | Tordecybombo | and it was part of the game |
| 17:19.38 | Tordecybombo | not some $4000 "tourney" edition |
| 17:19.39 | Sixen | SC2 Lan is in-game actually |
| 17:19.40 | nicoli_s | MysT_DooM had a vision |
| 17:19.42 | MysT_DooM | source is my word |
| 17:19.48 | Sixen | I saw it at the press tour |
| 17:20.02 | Sixen | just find the button and you're done, really |
| 17:20.34 | nicoli_s | well if they were smart they wouldnt include it in the retail build |
| 17:20.46 | nicoli_s | but they left in the test map feature in beta so who knows |
| 17:20.47 | Tordecybombo | yea they wouldn't |
| 17:20.53 | Tordecybombo | freakin Activi$ion Bli$$ard |
| 17:21.07 | Sixen | :p |
| 17:21.26 | MysT_DooM | any1 getting hit with the hurricane? |
| 17:21.31 | Tordecybombo | Sixen is such a Vixen |
| 17:22.01 | Sixen | agree |
| 17:22.04 | Sixen | Hurricane? |
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| 17:22.08 | Sixen | It's sunny here in AZ. |
| 17:22.21 | RazielZ | Well I fixed the invisible but I just can't get them to rotate with a turret... |
| 17:22.26 | Tordecybombo | well sunny |
| 17:22.34 | Tordecybombo | and then BLAM super dark cloudy skies outta nowhere |
| 17:22.48 | treepio | how do I set custom code into an action of an element ? |
| 17:23.14 | treepio | no option to add new custom script |
| 17:23.57 | MysT_DooM | hurricane rolling up the east coast |
| 17:24.06 | Greedape | its not 2012 yet |
| 17:24.18 | Tordecybombo | uh oh |
| 17:24.23 | Tordecybombo | spaghettios |
| 17:24.36 | Greedape | i cant get banks to work |
| 17:24.39 | Greedape | i hate them |
| 17:24.47 | Greedape | do they even work in singleplayer tests? |
| 17:25.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster Armentia (42f45007@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.244.80.7) |
| 17:25.25 | Tordecybombo | they should |
| 17:25.55 | Armentia | Can you turn items on a leaderboard into... links? Like when you click on one, some trigger runs? Or would I have to turn to dialogs for that? |
| 17:26.19 | Tordecybombo | so like buttons? |
| 17:26.22 | Armentia | Yeah |
| 17:26.27 | Armentia | button link, same thing really =P |
| 17:26.45 | Tordecybombo | replace the label as a button |
| 17:26.53 | Tordecybombo | or rather disable the button when it's not in use |
| 17:27.24 | Armentia | And how does one do that with a leaderboard? |
| 17:27.36 | Tordecybombo | iunno make a custom leaderboard |
| 17:27.45 | Armentia | Well that's what I was asking originally |
| 17:27.47 | Tordecybombo | what's so good about korean 4 gate |
| 17:27.51 | goomba_ | i live in georgia |
| 17:27.55 | goomba_ | its going to flood again |
| 17:27.56 | Tordecybombo | is that good |
| 17:28.02 | goomba_ | last year there was a retarded epic flood |
| 17:28.03 | Armentia | I'm sure i could make a mock leaderboard with dialogs |
| 17:28.13 | goomba_ | entire neighborhoods were literally under water |
| 17:28.15 | Tordecybombo | i made a leaderboard |
| 17:28.18 | Armentia | Did you build a giant boat goomba_? |
| 17:28.27 | goomba_ | the roads just kind of went into murky water |
| 17:28.31 | Tordecybombo | because beta phase 2 had broken leaderboard textures, so i was forced to make a custom leaderboard |
| 17:28.32 | Armentia | And collect a pair of all the animals? |
| 17:28.32 | goomba_ | and it looked like the roads were going into lakes |
| 17:28.44 | Tordecybombo | but now that the textures are back, should i go back to regular leaderboards? |
| 17:28.54 | Tordecybombo | oh man i dont want to give up all that hard work |
| 17:28.57 | Tordecybombo | tweaking the coordinates and all |
| 17:29.00 | Tordecybombo | it was such a pain :/ |
| 17:29.00 | goomba_ | there was a creek near my house |
| 17:29.03 | Armentia | Define custom leaderboard Tordecybombo |
| 17:29.05 | RazielZ | Ok, after spending 5 hours trying to make a freakin marine act like a turret, I'm quite pissed. |
| 17:29.07 | goomba_ | that was overflowing a bridge that was 10 feet over it |
| 17:29.24 | Armentia | Raz, should've just changed the model of a turret to a marine? |
| 17:29.39 | RazielZ | ... |
| 17:29.42 | RazielZ | Wait wait. |
| 17:29.58 | Tordecybombo | SELENDIS |
| 17:29.59 | RazielZ | Isn't the yaw query turret z dependant on model? |
| 17:30.00 | Armentia | Yeeeaahhhh |
| 17:30.10 | RazielZ | Cause it seems it is |
| 17:30.12 | Armentia | I have no iodea what that is |
| 17:30.25 | Tordecybombo | day9 revealed korean 4 gate? |
| 17:30.26 | RazielZ | >...> |
| 17:30.31 | Tordecybombo | so does that mean everyone's gonna use it |
| 17:30.33 | Tordecybombo | lame |
| 17:30.34 | goomba_ | 4 gate is retarded in and of itself |
| 17:30.38 | goomba_ | vs zerg |
| 17:30.41 | goomba_ | terran not so much |
| 17:30.50 | Tordecybombo | who faces zerg nowadays anyway |
| 17:30.56 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (6d55d4f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.85.212.249) |
| 17:30.57 | goomba_ | i play zerg |
| 17:31.00 | Tordecybombo | there are LITERALLY no zerg players |
| 17:31.02 | Tordecybombo | LITERALLY |
| 17:31.14 | goomba_ | im zerg |
| 17:31.18 | Demonette | I play zerg too XD |
| 17:31.34 | Demonette | zerg rules |
| 17:31.38 | Tordecybombo | up the butt |
| 17:31.48 | RazielZ | I'm zerg too |
| 17:31.50 | RazielZ | Except I suck |
| 17:31.53 | Tordecybombo | im zerg too |
| 17:31.56 | goomba_ | i dont suck im good :P |
| 17:32.03 | Tordecybombo | liar |
| 17:32.11 | Tordecybombo | no one's THAT good |
| 17:32.55 | Tordecybombo | there does not exist a zerg player that can consistently defeat high ranked diamond terrans in 1v1 |
| 17:32.56 | goomba_ | mmmm im pretty good |
| 17:32.57 | Tordecybombo | cept a few |
| 17:33.06 | Tordecybombo | but they dont count because they're not actually zerg players |
| 17:33.19 | goomba_ | i beat a lot of terran xD |
| 17:33.31 | Tordecybombo | bottom of the barrel terran |
| 17:33.41 | goomba_ | sure if diamond is bottom of the barrel |
| 17:33.42 | goomba_ | lol |
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| 17:34.00 | Tordecybombo | bottom of the barrel diamond |
| 17:34.02 | Tordecybombo | >_> |
| 17:34.21 | RazielZ | I changed the auto-turret model to marine, and guess what, no turret z axis on that model, so no facing enemies |
| 17:34.25 | RazielZ | FFF |
| 17:34.28 | goomba_ | at rank 48 atm |
| 17:34.41 | goomba_ | my bracket isnt actually that terran heavy |
| 17:34.54 | goomba_ | top 10: p p t z t p z p t z |
| 17:35.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demonette_ (6d55d4f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.85.212.249) |
| 17:35.31 | Demonette_ | XD |
| 17:36.43 | Tordecybombo | what should the league beyond diamond be called |
| 17:37.04 | Demonette | Void |
| 17:37.11 | Tordecybombo | i miss copper league :x |
| 17:37.14 | Tordecybombo | it was so cute |
| 17:37.15 | Tordecybombo | :3 |
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| 17:37.50 | Demonette | copper got removed or? |
| 17:38.18 | Tordecybombo | what's wrong with these ratings: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/detailed-elo |
| 17:39.55 | Coldfusionstorm | i looking for some help, i can't for the love of god, makes my god damn buttons show up in my build menu |
| 17:40.35 | Coldfusionstorm | ive made 2 different buttons, made both from ground, added them in the build ability |
| 17:40.54 | Coldfusionstorm | and it just shows nothing, ive tried filling allmost ALL of the stuff out in the button options |
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| 17:41.45 | Tordecybombo | boxer is so old now |
| 17:45.37 | treepio | I have: Variable - Set Playerkills[(Triggering player)] = Playerkills[(Triggering player)] How do I add +1 at the end ?. |
| 17:46.30 | Coldfusionstorm | i think you will have to chose "add" |
| 17:46.37 | Coldfusionstorm | then do the rest of your trigger after taht |
| 17:46.38 | Greedape | you have to do an arithmetic command |
| 17:46.38 | Coldfusionstorm | *that |
| 17:46.48 | treepio | I'll try. |
| 17:46.57 | Greedape | or use custom script because thats 1000 times faster :3 |
| 17:47.26 | treepio | yea. Been stuck in this gui for days.. would have been done if I had used notepad I think :) |
| 17:47.55 | Tordecybombo | thinking about converting all my triggers to custom script |
| 17:48.02 | Tordecybombo | but oh god i dont want to |
| 17:48.06 | Tordecybombo | ctrl+f11 |
| 17:48.08 | Tordecybombo | nope |
| 17:48.14 | Tordecybombo | script viewer |
| 17:48.19 | Tordecybombo | nope |
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| 17:49.27 | Greedape | i hate banks |
| 17:49.48 | Greedape | i AM repetative, i know that |
| 17:50.08 | Greedape | i get them to work in brand new maps, but not for my current project |
| 17:50.15 | Greedape | even though i use exactly the same stuff |
| 17:50.41 | Coldfusionstorm | yeah, the editor is just weird some times |
| 17:50.59 | treepio | any way to view the code output of everything I have made in galaxy editor?. so I can see how it's arranged ?= |
| 17:51.07 | Tordecybombo | try debugging it |
| 17:51.09 | Tordecybombo | print some stuff |
| 17:51.15 | Gwan | treepio: in gui after the = use function/math/arithmetic and there you can select playerkills[triggeringplayer] |
| 17:51.30 | Tordecybombo | is it actually saving a file? |
| 17:51.38 | Tordecybombo | is there an xml file? |
| 17:51.45 | Tordecybombo | what's in the xml? |
| 17:52.40 | Greedape | well, where is the xml file saved for map testing in map editor? |
| 17:52.59 | Tordecybombo | yea it should be in your documents/starcraft II/banks folder |
| 17:53.02 | goomba_ | doesnt using gui just write shit in galaxy for you |
| 17:53.14 | Tordecybombo | yea |
| 17:53.18 | Tordecybombo | but it's all funny |
| 17:53.26 | goomba_ | i never really understand the point of custom scripting |
| 17:53.28 | Greedape | they are all there |
| 17:53.32 | Greedape | even my prototypes |
| 17:53.33 | Greedape | argh |
| 17:53.36 | Coldfusionstorm | goomba, Speed |
| 17:53.44 | Tordecybombo | there are some things you cant do with gui (at least easily) than with custom scripting |
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| 17:53.55 | Coldfusionstorm | and what he said |
| 17:53.58 | goomba_ | so used to using gui from wc3 lol |
| 17:54.07 | Tordecybombo | yea im using GUI too |
| 17:54.15 | Tordecybombo | it's a pain doing arithmetic |
| 17:54.17 | goomba_ | trigger interface is fine |
| 17:54.23 | goomba_ | data editor is a mess |
| 17:54.40 | Tordecybombo | might be faster in a sense to do scripting |
| 17:54.48 | Tordecybombo | because there's so much clicking involved with gui |
| 17:54.49 | Tordecybombo | argh |
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| 17:55.39 | treepio | Just found the View script dropdown... can I code in there ? :) |
| 17:55.59 | Tordecybombo | can you? |
| 17:56.13 | Tordecybombo | :] |
| 17:56.27 | treepio | dunno, don't want to try if it's not working :) |
| 17:56.36 | Tordecybombo | (: |
| 17:56.36 | Tordecybombo | :) |
| 17:56.37 | Tordecybombo | :( |
| 17:56.44 | treepio | == =D |
| 17:57.01 | goomba_ | lol at new sc2 forums |
| 17:57.01 | Tordecybombo | so what's in the banks Greedape |
| 17:57.06 | Tordecybombo | what |
| 17:57.08 | Tordecybombo | where |
| 17:57.10 | goomba_ | only forum that gets any posts is zerg forum |
| 17:57.16 | goomba_ | starcraft2.com |
| 17:57.18 | goomba_ | those forums |
| 17:57.22 | goomba_ | relatively new |
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| 17:57.41 | goomba_ | 8/10 'popular topics' in zerg discusison |
| 17:57.50 | Tordecybombo | im guessing they're all terrans OP topics right |
| 17:58.11 | goomba_ | mostly zerg is up |
| 17:58.15 | goomba_ | but some of those too |
| 17:58.38 | Tordecybombo | are there any values |
| 17:58.42 | Tordecybombo | are the values correct |
| 17:59.43 | Tordecybombo | hi goomb |
| 17:59.43 | Tordecybombo | a |
| 17:59.46 | Tordecybombo | rooj |
| 17:59.52 | goomba_ | sup |
| 18:00.35 | Tordecybombo | i can see clearly now |
| 18:00.43 | Tordecybombo | i just need to think of a zerg unit now |
| 18:00.43 | treepio | the rain is gone !' |
| 18:00.47 | Tordecybombo | cmon guys help me out |
| 18:00.55 | Tordecybombo | i have 3 new terran units, 2 new zergs, and 3 new protoss |
| 18:00.55 | treepio | Zealot |
| 18:00.58 | Tordecybombo | 1 more zerg! |
| 18:01.01 | Tordecybombo | just one more! |
| 18:01.11 | treepio | High Templar |
| 18:01.18 | Tordecybombo | already got high templar! :[ |
| 18:01.32 | Tordecybombo | zerg is so lame, they have nothing unique :/ |
| 18:01.42 | treepio | mutalisk |
| 18:01.43 | Tordecybombo | so i can just come up with anything |
| 18:01.48 | Tordecybombo | already got that too |
| 18:02.04 | Tordecybombo | gotta make up a new units using models that havent used |
| 18:02.17 | Tordecybombo | lemme see what models i havent used |
| 18:02.25 | treepio | colossus, just scale it down :) |
| 18:02.28 | Tordecybombo | abberation |
| 18:02.33 | Tordecybombo | what can i do with abberation |
| 18:02.45 | Tordecybombo | they just smack units |
| 18:02.46 | treepio | infested terran |
| 18:02.51 | Tordecybombo | already got infested terran |
| 18:02.52 | Tordecybombo | they explode |
| 18:02.54 | Tordecybombo | in my map |
| 18:03.10 | treepio | MOTHERSHIP ! |
| 18:03.24 | Tordecybombo | mofoship |
| 18:03.32 | treepio | just scale it down :) |
| 18:03.49 | Tordecybombo | large numbers of motherships generates huge amount of lag |
| 18:03.51 | Tordecybombo | even scaled down |
| 18:04.16 | Tordecybombo | infested |
| 18:04.19 | Tordecybombo | something |
| 18:04.21 | Tordecybombo | no |
| 18:04.23 | Tordecybombo | too many infested |
| 18:04.25 | Tordecybombo | infested is lame |
| 18:04.28 | Tordecybombo | infested protoss! |
| 18:04.30 | Tordecybombo | no wait |
| 18:04.36 | goomba_ | because they cloak everything |
| 18:04.41 | goomba_ | and have over 9000000000polies |
| 18:04.45 | treepio | why are there an lv_ infront of the code. |
| 18:04.46 | Tordecybombo | what |
| 18:05.08 | Tordecybombo | to designate that it's a local variable |
| 18:05.18 | Greedape | oh lord no |
| 18:05.22 | Tordecybombo | now what |
| 18:05.22 | Greedape | wryyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 18:05.23 | Tordecybombo | TELL ME |
| 18:05.25 | Tordecybombo | cmon |
| 18:05.29 | Tordecybombo | please |
| 18:05.35 | treepio | aha |
| 18:05.40 | Greedape | you cant load banks with a bautyful loop? |
| 18:05.51 | Tordecybombo | :/ |
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| 18:06.01 | Greedape | you must use constants? |
| 18:06.03 | Greedape | nonono man |
| 18:06.04 | Tordecybombo | :/ |
| 18:06.04 | Greedape | wtf |
| 18:06.14 | Tordecybombo | well if you use just 1 bank for each player it's not so bad |
| 18:06.21 | Greedape | yeah its okay |
| 18:06.22 | Tordecybombo | just lots of copy&pasting |
| 18:06.29 | Greedape | but i tend to use loops for that |
| 18:06.31 | Tordecybombo | besides 1 bank is more than enough if you compress the data |
| 18:06.31 | Greedape | ARGH |
| 18:06.48 | Greedape | and to learn that, i worked 2 hours on that stupid bank system |
| 18:07.03 | treepio | °|° |
| 18:07.05 | Greedape | in that time, id have written a whole save/load system for warcraft 3 |
| 18:07.06 | Tordecybombo | banks are a pain :/ |
| 18:07.07 | Greedape | dang |
| 18:07.16 | Tordecybombo | dang |
| 18:07.17 | Tordecybombo | dannnngg |
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| 18:07.18 | Tordecybombo | DAAANG |
| 18:07.23 | Greedape | with 100 symbols |
| 18:07.24 | Greedape | rly |
| 18:07.28 | Greedape | even using & and ( |
| 18:07.30 | Tordecybombo | i wonder what sixen is upto |
| 18:07.56 | Tordecybombo | anywhere but here |
| 18:08.02 | Tordecybombo | I CAN SEE CLEARLY NOW |
| 18:08.10 | Helral | the Sixen is gone? |
| 18:08.28 | Tordecybombo | i need to use this song |
| 18:08.31 | Tordecybombo | thanks |
| 18:08.37 | Tordecybombo | explode |
| 18:08.38 | Tordecybombo | implode |
| 18:08.50 | Helral | deplode? |
| 18:08.51 | Tordecybombo | i like how you can name something in the data editor Suicide |
| 18:09.06 | Tordecybombo | but you cant use it with text? |
| 18:09.19 | Tordecybombo | im so confused |
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| 18:10.39 | sNap | i gave my tower the sporecrawler weapon, but ingame the tower cant attack, I got the message "Cannot rotate to targeting unit"(similar). What should I change to fix this problem? |
| 18:11.15 | treepio | I think there is an option on the tower allowing it to rotate. can't remember the name |
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| 18:15.10 | Oninji | Hellow |
| 18:20.30 | Oninji | Mmm It's pretty much dead I see |
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| 18:22.28 | mattavich-377 | lol |
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| 18:23.35 | Dogmai | stupid mirc |
| 18:24.08 | Oninji | Heh? |
| 18:24.11 | Oninji | Why? |
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| 18:27.55 | Greedape | does "owner of unit - killing unit" and "killing player" return the same value if a unit is killed by another unit or does "killing player" just fail in that context? |
| 18:28.06 | Suterusu | Any easy way of creating dialog buttons of images? |
| 18:28.18 | Suterusu | Without overlapping two dialog item (image) (button) |
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| 18:31.28 | Oninji | Whoo I understood how the preset work *Noobish* |
| 18:34.50 | jorgenpt | Suterusu: Not that I know of |
| 18:35.03 | jorgenpt | Suterusu: You should use Fade Dialog Item and put the button on top of the image. |
| 18:35.14 | jorgenpt | Suterusu: I experimented with Set Dialog Item Image on a button, but it completely breaks it. |
| 18:35.40 | jorgenpt | Suterusu: The Fade part is if you want just the image and no button frame. |
| 18:35.54 | Suterusu | I see |
| 18:36.08 | jorgenpt | Suterusu: If you want a tooltip, you need to put it on the button. (If you have a tooltip on the image, and the button is on the bottom, then the click doesn't go through to the button) |
| 18:36.11 | Suterusu | You know on the game UI if there is a requirement the unit icon is "greyed" out |
| 18:36.22 | Suterusu | is there a similar way to reproduce that effect on a custom dialog |
| 18:36.41 | jorgenpt | Set the color to be grey? |
| 18:36.59 | jorgenpt | But I'm not sure, I haven't looked at it. |
| 18:37.27 | Suterusu | I wasn't sure if they were just calling a function to set the image to a grey scale or if it's possible to modify that manually |
| 18:37.28 | jorgenpt | It's silly that Blizzard hasn't given us a good way to reproduce the "normal" game buttons. |
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| 18:37.32 | Suterusu | or thru trigger/ de |
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| 18:37.34 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 18:37.36 | Leaderboard | Hey back |
| 18:37.46 | Leaderboard | I wonder if someone have a map when attack while moving is possible for TPS map |
| 18:37.54 | jorgenpt | I'm grabbing a shower. Later. :) |
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| 18:42.00 | treepio | I have made an array to be populated by triggering player. Now if I want to access player3?. is the command then: if player1.supplycount( ? |
| 18:42.27 | treepio | player3.supplycount offc |
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| 18:43.15 | treepio | nvm... |
| 18:43.17 | treepio | got it |
| 18:43.18 | cogwheel | if you guys need some comic releif I started putting together some "learn from my fail" videos. Latest one is pretty epic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK-iMfvWdCU |
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| 18:51.03 | goomba_ | sixen you home yet? |
| 18:51.18 | Sixen | home, no. |
| 18:51.22 | Sixen | Won't be home until tonight |
| 18:51.24 | Sixen | GF has a lab =\ |
| 18:51.27 | deathnight114 | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/541085158 |
| 18:51.30 | goomba_ | pwnsauce |
| 18:51.42 | deathnight114 | a counter to terrans pure mech |
| 18:51.46 | deathnight114 | bout time |
| 18:51.50 | goomba_ | deathnight watch my vid on the 7th page lol |
| 18:52.46 | deathnight114 | Can't watch |
| 18:52.49 | deathnight114 | shoulda uploaded to YT |
| 18:52.52 | deathnight114 | owait |
| 18:52.54 | deathnight114 | now I can |
| 18:53.39 | deathnight114 | no shit |
| 18:53.41 | deathnight114 | nice |
| 18:54.04 | deathnight114 | that's not 3 thors btw |
| 18:54.15 | goomba_ | whatd i say |
| 18:54.16 | goomba_ | its 5 xD |
| 18:54.18 | goomba_ | same supply |
| 18:54.28 | deathnight114 | you said 15 mutas vs 3 thors |
| 18:54.38 | Gwan | guys which streamer do you think has better quality: ustream or livestream.com? |
| 18:54.56 | deathnight114 | no idea >.> |
| 18:56.06 | deathnight114 | bbl, i'm gonna go play SCII |
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| 18:58.40 | Fromethius | anyone know how to make it so that you cannot see enemy/ally unit command card items? |
| 18:58.48 | Fromethius | i can see their submenu icons for some reason |
| 18:59.09 | Fromethius | specifically the build structure and build advanced structure submenu icons |
| 18:59.37 | Fromethius | it's weird because i can't see it for existing build abilities like the zerg's and protoss's but i do for custom build abilities |
| 19:03.20 | Leaderboard | Is there an TPS expert here ? :p |
| 19:05.11 | Leaderboard | I'm trying to contact lotsofcolors (Diaclo), can't find him :( |
| 19:07.45 | Leaderboard | Any idea ? |
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| 19:18.01 | Tolkfan | Are chat channel really coming with 1.1? Because I keep re-reading that post and for me it says that they'll be in later patches... |
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| 19:24.44 | nicoli_s | Tolkfan:they havent said exactly when they are coming |
| 19:24.49 | nicoli_s | i think people just hope 1.1 |
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| 19:27.11 | Sixen | They've been saying the first major patch and 1.1 is the first major patch |
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| 19:36.30 | Hawhaf | heya guys, I want to improve the basic "hero inventory and equipment" screen. Where should I start looking into if i want to give the slots background images and explaining text what they are to be used for ? |
| 19:37.58 | Fromethius | might be better off waiting for the next patch |
| 19:38.09 | Fromethius | it may fix the crap inventory system |
| 19:38.14 | Leaderboard | Still no TPS expert here ? :p |
| 19:38.18 | Fromethius | tps reports? |
| 19:38.22 | Leaderboard | hmm |
| 19:38.30 | Leaderboard | I'm trying to make the shoot while moving thing |
| 19:38.38 | Fromethius | it's under the weapon |
| 19:38.45 | Fromethius | it's a flag you can check |
| 19:38.52 | Fromethius | or combo box or something |
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| 19:40.20 | Hawhaf | is the inventory system bugged in any way? |
| 19:40.23 | Leaderboard | For TPS ? You're sure ? :o |
| 19:41.06 | HellRazor | Does anyone know if there is a current capture the flag map out there. I can't seem to find one. |
| 19:41.40 | Hawhaf | ctf |
| 19:41.40 | Hawhaf | look the mapster news, a ct map was just newsed |
| 19:42.27 | Leaderboard | Well Fromethius, can't find it :x |
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| 19:42.38 | Fromethius | hold on i'll find it |
| 19:42.40 | HellRazor | no shit, it was just posted 6 hours ago. thats sweet |
| 19:42.55 | Fromethius | there |
| 19:42.58 | Fromethius | Weapon - Allow Movement |
| 19:43.03 | Fromethius | under the weapon for the unit |
| 19:44.20 | Tolkfan | There's no way to move cargo units out of their transport instantly :O |
| 19:44.24 | Tolkfan | or is there? |
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| 19:45.34 | casperb | change the unload duration |
| 19:46.31 | Tolkfan | i mean, I have units created in a cargo unit and I want them moved instantly to the other corner of the map |
| 19:46.40 | Tolkfan | Move Unit Instantly doesnt work on cargo |
| 19:46.59 | casperb | delete the cargo units and create units |
| 19:47.10 | Tolkfan | yeah, that's how im doing it now |
| 19:47.32 | Tolkfan | I just like everything to be elegant :O |
| 19:49.26 | casperb | then use the ability |
| 19:49.44 | mattavich-377 | Hey guys |
| 19:49.44 | casperb | you want to do it the hacky way yet you don't :p |
| 19:49.50 | casperb | yo |
| 19:50.06 | mattavich-377 | How cna i play a sound that is much louder than the rest of the sounds currently playing |
| 19:50.21 | mattavich-377 | Is there a way to dim other sounds for a omoment? |
| 19:50.31 | mattavich-377 | moment* and make that sound very loud? |
| 19:50.55 | Tolkfan | Set Sound Channel Volume |
| 19:50.58 | casperb | Actually, all the volume properties have not had any effect while i've been testing |
| 19:51.11 | casperb | had an issue with mod sounds being to low |
| 19:51.11 | mattavich-377 | same |
| 19:51.23 | mattavich-377 | My sound effect is completely drowed out and hard toh ear |
| 19:51.37 | Tolkfan | set everyting to like 50% except the category in which your sound is |
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| 19:53.17 | casperb | mattavich-377: can change the volume of the sound instead in data |
| 19:53.26 | HelpTheNOOB | How do you make it so a range unit cant attack pass a cliff, if he on the bottom or top. |
| 19:53.58 | mattavich-377 | ohhh data editor? ill take a look thanks |
| 19:54.21 | mattavich-377 | hopefully that will give me nice loud sounds |
| 19:55.42 | Leaderboard | Fromethius : thanks for the help, but it dont works |
| 19:55.50 | Fromethius | what doesn't work about it |
| 19:56.02 | Fromethius | works for the pheonix just fine |
| 19:56.13 | Fromethius | phoenix* |
| 19:56.14 | Otixa | kicks Fromethius |
| 19:56.20 | Fromethius | oh not this again |
| 19:56.35 | Fromethius | you can't kick me my map's on page 2! |
| 19:56.37 | Leaderboard | because it's a Third person shooter map :p |
| 19:56.37 | Fromethius | i have the power!!! |
| 19:56.44 | Leaderboard | hehe, harder, eh ? |
| 19:56.49 | Otixa | ;p |
| 19:57.01 | Otixa | I prepared a model for saturday |
| 19:57.41 | Leaderboard | :o |
| 19:58.50 | Otixa | http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1568/milcrate.jpg |
| 19:58.51 | Otixa | :D |
| 19:58.58 | mattavich-377 | Casper, i cant seem to increase the volume for it anymore than it is in data editor =/ |
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| 19:59.46 | Leaderboard | I gonna cry. |
| 20:00.20 | Otixa | Soliek, we'll be having a workshop on this |
| 20:00.37 | Otixa | And Xar is prolly gonna talk about level design or something |
| 20:00.49 | HelpTheNOOB | How do you make it so a range unit cant attack pass a cliff, if he on the bottom or top. |
| 20:00.57 | ckknight | your tears are so delicious, Leaderboard |
| 20:01.08 | Leaderboard | uuh |
| 20:02.57 | nicoli_s | otixa:looks high poly, is that for sc2? |
| 20:03.22 | Sixen | Hum |
| 20:03.33 | Sixen | Someone login to the forums, tell me if it shows you as having no license on bnet |
| 20:03.51 | Sixen | "No StarCraft II license found" |
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| 20:04.35 | Otixa | nicoli_s, yes |
| 20:04.42 | Leaderboard | No problem for me, try to answer a post :p |
| 20:04.52 | Hawhaf | ROM sc2 or FOR sc2? |
| 20:04.55 | Hawhaf | FROM |
| 20:04.59 | Otixa | For |
| 20:05.13 | Hawhaf | and what the heck do you need such an advanced box for ? |
| 20:05.15 | Sixen | tells me I have no license on SU |
| 20:05.16 | Sixen | US* |
| 20:05.21 | nicoli_s | Otixa:you could probably use textures for most of that extra detail you have |
| 20:05.43 | Otixa | nicoli_s, well, if you bothered watching the show last night, you'd know about normal mapping ;P |
| 20:06.00 | nicoli_s | i do know about normal mapping |
| 20:06.04 | nicoli_s | thats what i was going to say |
| 20:06.06 | Otixa | Well there you go |
| 20:06.21 | nicoli_s | you could use a normal map instead of having those be verts and faces, or is that already a normal mp? |
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| 20:06.28 | Otixa | The box itself will be around 24 tris |
| 20:06.34 | nicoli_s | ahh ok |
| 20:07.01 | Otixa | I'll be re-making the whole model on the show |
| 20:07.03 | Otixa | Live etc |
| 20:07.12 | Otixa | So it'll be kinda like a workshop |
| 20:07.31 | Otixa | And I'll go over the techniques used to make it and answer questions |
| 20:07.58 | nicoli_s | ahh very cool |
| 20:08.06 | nicoli_s | workshops are fun :) |
| 20:08.11 | Otixa | Ye ;D |
| 20:08.20 | nicoli_s | my gf is teaching a hoola hoop workshop today |
| 20:08.34 | Otixa | Just need to make a list of stuff I need to cover |
| 20:08.45 | Otixa | So it doesn't end up like last night's show ¬_¬ |
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| 20:10.00 | Otixa | Actually |
| 20:10.07 | Otixa | You guys want anything specific? |
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| 20:13.45 | Fromethius | anyone know how to disable "x has left the game. his resources will be split with the remaining players" ? |
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| 20:17.23 | Sixen | ok |
| 20:17.27 | Sixen | did anyone randomly lose their SC2 game? |
| 20:17.33 | Sixen | I no longer have SC2 on my Bnet Account |
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| 20:17.40 | Mozared | O_o |
| 20:17.41 | Vulfe | What |
| 20:17.42 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 20:17.47 | Vulfe | No wai |
| 20:17.49 | Leaderboard | omg |
| 20:17.49 | Hayena | Blizzard owned you! :D |
| 20:17.54 | Sixen | 3 licenses of SC2 are just gone from my account, -_- |
| 20:18.02 | Leaderboard | try to contact the assistance :x |
| 20:18.13 | Mozared | I still got it |
| 20:18.18 | Vulfe | Did you get an infraction of any sort, Sixen? |
| 20:18.19 | Sixen | *sigh* wtf |
| 20:18.21 | Sixen | Nah |
| 20:18.25 | Sixen | It'd tell me i'm banned or something :P |
| 20:18.25 | Vulfe | weird |
| 20:18.28 | Sixen | All my foru mposts are still there |
| 20:18.36 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 20:18.37 | Hayena | tried to relog |
| 20:18.38 | Sixen | The games are just *gone*, like I never had them. |
| 20:18.39 | Hayena | maybe it bugged? |
| 20:18.41 | Sixen | I did, three times :p |
| 20:18.43 | Hayena | or cant log in game either? |
| 20:18.44 | Vulfe | I would contact them about that |
| 20:18.45 | Hayena | ok :P |
| 20:18.46 | Vulfe | lol |
| 20:18.48 | Sixen | Not at home to try game= \ |
| 20:19.16 | Hayena | hmm |
| 20:19.24 | Hayena | You american? :o |
| 20:19.38 | Hayena | too lazy to do a whois |
| 20:19.46 | Vulfe | drive to blizz HQ |
| 20:19.47 | Vulfe | bitch at them |
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| 20:20.33 | Sixen | yes |
| 20:20.40 | Leaderboard | Sixen, I think you are taking Terrible, Terrible Damage |
| 20:20.44 | Sixen | -.- |
| 20:20.44 | Leaderboard | . |
| 20:20.44 | Hayena | Well, Sue them? ^^ |
| 20:20.49 | Sixen | Well, wtf. |
| 20:20.51 | Sixen | How can it just be gone. |
| 20:20.52 | Leaderboard | Ok I get out of here |
| 20:21.05 | Hayena | Dunno, maybe they are upgrading Battle.net like usually and fucking up |
| 20:21.16 | Sixen | But everyone else is fine :p |
| 20:21.29 | Fromethius | taking out the competition |
| 20:21.32 | Sixen | lol |
| 20:21.32 | anteevy | anybody any idea why a warp gate sometimes warps the unit in at some random position in the map instead of the location give it as a parameter? -.- |
| 20:21.35 | Leaderboard | The question is, why are you the only one having this problem |
| 20:21.48 | Fromethius | it's like an assassination attempt |
| 20:21.55 | Fromethius | once sixen goes down the rest of sc2mapster will crumble |
| 20:22.01 | Sixen | -_- |
| 20:22.03 | Fromethius | blizzard is trying to regain their power |
| 20:22.03 | Hayena | I think, since you had 3 accounts they thought you were like a gold seller |
| 20:22.06 | Hayena | or something |
| 20:22.06 | Hayena | dunno |
| 20:22.11 | Sixen | It was on different servers :p |
| 20:22.14 | Leaderboard | Did you gave your account at someone else ? |
| 20:22.17 | Sixen | nah |
| 20:22.21 | Sixen | youcan't delete a game manually anyway |
| 20:22.26 | Leaderboard | Right |
| 20:22.42 | Hayena | did you format C? |
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| 20:23.35 | Leaderboard | Sixen, just phone Blizzard, don't know what time is it for you now, but try |
| 20:23.54 | Leaderboard | Doesn't look like a ban |
| 20:24.19 | rrowland | They got mad at all your cheese and banned you |
| 20:24.26 | Leaderboard | x) |
| 20:26.06 | Sixen | I am going to be amazingly pissed if something screws up' |
| 20:26.18 | Sixen | And I can't get my character ID back or some stupid shit. |
| 20:26.52 | Sixen | This didn't happen to anyone else? |
| 20:26.59 | Greedape | nope |
| 20:27.16 | Sixen | *sigh* |
| 20:27.44 | Greedape | well, its time for the phone call |
| 20:27.45 | Greedape | :) |
| 20:27.49 | Greedape | tomorrow |
| 20:27.56 | Sixen | yeah well, I e-mailed someone to check my account |
| 20:28.00 | Sixen | but I don't think he's in yet |
| 20:28.16 | Sixen | Someoen make a thread in Tech Support for me -_-; |
| 20:28.27 | Greedape | i dont think you can delete games from an account by any means |
| 20:28.35 | Sixen | "Sixen's SC2 License is gone" and link here: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=26725722326 |
| 20:28.36 | Sixen | You can't. |
| 20:28.39 | Leaderboard | Question, is there a way to make people hear sounds (triggers) in VO ? |
| 20:28.52 | Greedape | so it should be a bug or a wipe because you cheat.. in world of warcraft.. :p |
| 20:29.20 | Jum-Jum | lol Sixen |
| 20:29.24 | Jum-Jum | BATTLE.NET 2.0!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:29.30 | Greedape | yay for that |
| 20:29.30 | Sixen | yeah, phale |
| 20:29.56 | Greedape | even though i liked the new user interface of the besite |
| 20:30.01 | Greedape | i just dont like the rest |
| 20:30.28 | Jum-Jum | you couldn't expect much when its the same guy who made the xbox interface |
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| 20:30.53 | Greedape | mhh |
| 20:30.59 | Greedape | thats the runningag around here |
| 20:30.59 | Icebane | Evenin! |
| 20:31.14 | Greedape | yo |
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| 20:31.34 | Greedape | any still knows what the difference between battle.nat 2.0 and a stone is? |
| 20:31.38 | Greedape | *anyone |
| 20:32.06 | Gwan | so im trying to add multitargeting to the medivacs healbeam. The would go ability->search area->create healer right? |
| 20:32.09 | Greedape | the stone doesnt have facebook integration |
| 20:32.24 | Icebane | Old, but still awesome! :D |
| 20:32.38 | Leaderboard | Hem, hem. Is there a way to make everyone playing my map hear sounds in VO ? |
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| 20:32.47 | Icebane | Gwan: I dunno! |
| 20:32.59 | Greedape | gwan, i think that would make it heal multi target in an area |
| 20:33.08 | Greedape | without the desired multitarget looks |
| 20:33.31 | Gwan | i kinda need it for the looks :D |
| 20:33.42 | Greedape | ya i think thats the point ^^ |
| 20:34.16 | Gwan | need my captureable powernodes to link up, and i tought modifying the healbeam should give the desired effect |
| 20:34.35 | Greedape | ouf |
| 20:35.23 | Greedape | and the powernodes would need healing all the time? :3 |
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| 20:36.02 | Greedape | just joking.. i think the custom spell contest had what your looking for |
| 20:36.05 | Leaderboard | So, no one can help me :( |
| 20:36.17 | Greedape | there were some protectors linking each others |
| 20:36.27 | Gwan | well i made it so that they would need energy, and thats what it would recharge |
| 20:36.52 | Greedape | look for the custom map contest and download the map with the protectors, that should give you a hint |
| 20:37.14 | Greedape | leaderboard? |
| 20:37.16 | anteevy | can you somehow enable auto-cast on an ability with its hotkey (or simply with a left-click) instead of only when you rightclick on it? |
| 20:37.27 | Greedape | trigger it |
| 20:38.00 | anteevy | err |
| 20:38.48 | Greedape | i believe there is a trigger to change an abilities autocast setting |
| 20:38.51 | Greedape | so that should help |
| 20:39.31 | Leaderboard | uh |
| 20:39.39 | Leaderboard | Greedape, that's not my question :p |
| 20:39.49 | Leaderboard | I was wondering if there's a way to make people hear sounds in VO |
| 20:39.59 | Jum-Jum | hes answering to anteevy, Leaderboard. |
| 20:40.01 | Greedape | event - a key pressed // unit selected --> medivac (or whatever) --> change autocast setting on ability for unit |
| 20:40.04 | Leaderboard | ah lo, ok. |
| 20:40.07 | Leaderboard | lol* |
| 20:40.22 | Greedape | yeah sorry |
| 20:40.22 | Gwan | Greedape: you ment that one right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kSXOwtPlng&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:40.52 | Greedape | i think there was another one with multitarget |
| 20:41.12 | anteevy | thanks, what's the name of the trigger that sets autocast? |
| 20:41.13 | Greedape | and wth VO |
| 20:41.41 | Leaderboard | hum |
| 20:41.44 | Greedape | video overlay? vladimits old granny? im too stupid to know |
| 20:41.50 | Leaderboard | original version. |
| 20:42.10 | Leaderboard | in english. |
| 20:42.57 | Greedape | im too stupid to get what you want.. |
| 20:43.02 | Greedape | im sorry |
| 20:43.11 | Leaderboard | I'm trying to make a sound playing in english for any client |
| 20:43.30 | Leaderboard | for example, if the client is RUS, i want to make sounds in english (sry bad english) for this player |
| 20:43.33 | Leaderboard | . |
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| 20:44.17 | Greedape | thatsa not possible if you dont use custom sounds |
| 20:44.23 | Greedape | as the RUS client only has RUS sounds |
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| 20:44.45 | Sixen | alright, gotta run to class. brb. |
| 20:45.30 | Greedape | @ Gwen: i thought there was something for autocasting but i dont find it atm.. you could just enable an autocast version of the ability and disable the non autocast version and vice versa |
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| 20:47.35 | Vophsix | has anyone used unit custom values, i'm wondering whether this works like a variable? |
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| 20:48.00 | Greedape | it works great for a threat system in a hero map |
| 20:48.14 | Vophsix | so it can be changed once set? |
| 20:48.18 | Vophsix | great |
| 20:48.19 | Greedape | y |
| 20:49.01 | Rayden | threat system? |
| 20:49.09 | oldschool01 | Hey guys, I created a "shared building" ability and I would like to limit it to one side only. Does anyone know how to do this? |
| 20:49.36 | Greedape | y threat system |
| 20:49.50 | Rayden | put uber defensive structures around it that will kill anyone who comes close |
| 20:50.51 | Greedape | and write some lore about the ancient uber defense around that building |
| 20:50.58 | Greedape | and write some description on it |
| 20:51.09 | Greedape | and write about it in loadscreen |
| 20:51.17 | Greedape | or try to find an actual way to do it |
| 20:56.00 | Demonette | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/10074-improved-extended-revamped-star-craft-2-for-multiplayer/ |
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| 20:57.53 | PapaRoach | so.... does anyone know how to edit the runling run save files, because i just saved over my level 17 guardian with a level 6 scout |
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| 21:00.46 | oldschool01 | papa, did u save and quit the editor? you can't undo? |
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| 21:02.13 | PapaRoach | its a game in custom games, and it suses save files. i accidently saved over my best save file with a crappy one, i was just wondering if there was a way to revert the file to like 20 minutes ago |
| 21:02.18 | PapaRoach | like a system restore but for one file |
| 21:02.36 | oldschool01 | o |
| 21:03.00 | Oninji | erf unless the file store a log, it'd be more complicated than it's worth |
| 21:03.47 | PapaRoach | sigh. well. if it did use a log were would it be saved |
| 21:04.18 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 21:04.26 | oldschool01 | so can someone help me with sharing buildings to one side only? I made the ability but i can't seem to restrict it to one side |
| 21:04.26 | rooj | O_O |
| 21:05.41 | oldschool01 | i was going to do a 1 way alliance with share control, but i perfer to do it by ability |
| 21:14.16 | Helral|SC2 | anyone on EU got a moment to help me test mineral share on leave? |
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| 21:15.03 | PapaRoach | hm wonder if i turn off my computer via the button if it will not save my bank file permenantly..... |
| 21:15.29 | Mozared | Still need help Helral? |
| 21:15.36 | Helral|SC2 | yup |
| 21:15.40 | Mozared | I'll give you a hand |
| 21:15.50 | Demonette | XD |
| 21:15.50 | Demonette | oO |
| 21:15.52 | Helral|SC2 | Helral.454 is my nick on sc2 |
| 21:15.58 | Mozared | Will add you |
| 21:16.46 | Demonette | thought min share after leave was automatical? |
| 21:17.25 | Helral|SC2 | trying to disable it XD |
| 21:18.54 | Mozared | Em, Hel |
| 21:18.58 | Mozared | You crashed my game =P |
| 21:18.59 | Helral|SC2 | hmmm did you also get the message: "unable to open map" ? |
| 21:19.02 | Mozared | Yup |
| 21:19.08 | Helral|SC2 | I crashed my own game as well :P |
| 21:19.11 | Mozared | Haha |
| 21:19.16 | Mozared | Time well spent! |
| 21:19.24 | Helral|SC2 | alt+f4 works :P |
| 21:19.28 | Mozared | Luckily |
| 21:19.50 | Helral|SC2 | wonder why it was unable to open the map... |
| 21:20.04 | Helral|SC2 | ow wait. |
| 21:20.07 | Mozared | Have fun figuring it out? =P |
| 21:20.08 | Helral|SC2 | I didn't set player 2 as user |
| 21:20.09 | Helral|SC2 | XD |
| 21:20.14 | Mozared | Dur |
| 21:21.00 | Helral|SC2 | updating map and trying again XD |
| 21:21.07 | Mozared | Let me know when you need me back on |
| 21:22.00 | Helral|SC2 | hmkmm still unable to open map... |
| 21:22.49 | Helral|SC2 | local testing it runs without problems :S |
| 21:22.55 | Mozared | Hmm |
| 21:22.57 | Mozared | good luck with that =P |
| 21:23.08 | Demonette | Mmmmhh |
| 21:23.08 | Demonette | weird |
| 21:23.32 | Demonette | maybe you can find out why it doesn't work in the mpq |
| 21:23.48 | Demonette | got some broken maps some time ago |
| 21:24.45 | Helral|SC2 | ow it doesn't work locally as well now... |
| 21:24.59 | Mozared | Progess! |
| 21:25.01 | Demonette | got a earlier stage somewhere? |
| 21:25.16 | Demonette | earlier version or so... |
| 21:25.19 | Helral|SC2 | OMG |
| 21:25.25 | Helral|SC2 | I removed the - from the map name |
| 21:25.26 | Demonette | your fucked? |
| 21:25.26 | Helral|SC2 | it works now |
| 21:25.35 | Demonette | XD |
| 21:25.40 | Demonette | gratz |
| 21:25.40 | Helral|SC2 | I had: Online Test Map - Helral |
| 21:25.48 | PapaRoach | woot i was able to restore my bank file for runling run to 1 day ago, so i didnt lose my baneling =) |
| 21:25.48 | Helral|SC2 | Changed it to: Online Test Map Helral |
| 21:25.54 | Helral|SC2 | that fixed it... |
| 21:25.56 | Helral|SC2 | wth? |
| 21:26.02 | PapaRoach | yeah... |
| 21:27.22 | Demonette | cya guys |
| 21:27.28 | Demonette | post there: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/10074-improved-extended-revamped-star-craft-2-for-multiplayer/ =P |
| 21:27.37 | Demonette | nighty day/night |
| 21:27.40 | Mozared | night night |
| 21:27.48 | Demonette | what ever fits |
| 21:27.51 | Demonette | cheers |
| 21:28.43 | goomba_ | moza! |
| 21:28.44 | goomba_ | http://a.imageshack.us/img228/7714/eggback.png |
| 21:29.21 | Mozared | Is it a skin? |
| 21:29.23 | Mozared | Is it a model? |
| 21:29.26 | Mozared | No! It is a screenshot! |
| 21:29.57 | Helral|SC2 | Mozared: can ya come online to help me test again. :P |
| 21:29.59 | Otixa | goomba_, no D: |
| 21:30.05 | Mozared | Yeah, be right there |
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| 21:31.03 | goomba__ | mooooza |
| 21:32.32 | goomba__ | mooza? |
| 21:32.42 | Mozared | Goomba |
| 21:32.44 | Mozared | ? |
| 21:32.47 | goomba__ | mooooooza |
| 21:32.49 | goomba__ | did you see that link |
| 21:32.52 | Mozared | Goombaaaa |
| 21:32.52 | goomba__ | i dced |
| 21:32.55 | Mozared | Yes, I commented on it |
| 21:32.57 | Mozared | I said |
| 21:32.59 | Mozared | "Is it a skin?" |
| 21:33.01 | Mozared | "Is it a model?" |
| 21:33.02 | goomba__ | ya |
| 21:33.05 | Mozared | "No! It is a screenshot!" |
| 21:33.07 | goomba__ | reskin of stettman |
| 21:33.17 | Mozared | Seems a decent start |
| 21:33.23 | goomba__ | the armor will have the splat theme |
| 21:33.32 | goomba__ | and the clothing robey nerd shit will have the green tint |
| 21:33.42 | goomba__ | he also will have green highlights, but not in a gay way |
| 21:33.49 | Mozared | were those injectors green before your reskin? |
| 21:33.53 | goomba__ | ya |
| 21:33.58 | Mozared | They fit in nicely |
| 21:34.10 | Mozared | ~seen goomba_ |
| 21:34.28 | purl | goomba_ <~goomba_@adsl-232-3-199.asm.bellsouth.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 5m 44s ago, saying: 'http://a.imageshack.us/img228/7714/eggback.png'. |
| 21:34.28 | goomba__ | ya :P only thing thats different is the splat and the green tint |
| 21:34.28 | Mozared | Stealthy! |
| 21:34.39 | goomba_ | o |
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| 21:35.00 | Mozared | hey goomb |
| 21:35.06 | Mozared | if I jump on you, do you disappear? |
| 21:35.47 | goomba_ | no |
| 21:35.50 | goomba_ | i wear a spikey hat |
| 21:35.53 | goomba_ | you require a hammer. |
| 21:35.59 | Mozared | or a fire flower? |
| 21:36.01 | currydevil | Ahaha, i created invulnerable units with a broken trigger set to modify unit health |
| 21:36.11 | goomba_ | too slow |
| 21:36.13 | goomba_ | i head bonked you |
| 21:36.18 | goomba_ | head bonks Mozared. |
| 21:36.21 | Mozared | Your.... masterplan has been set into motion, currydevil? |
| 21:36.24 | Mozared | Ouch, that shit hurts |
| 21:36.29 | currydevil | i guess, lawl. |
| 21:36.31 | Mozared | fires fire flower blubs at goomba_ |
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| 21:37.08 | goomba_ | nope u ded lol |
| 21:37.09 | currydevil | Been trying to set up an array containing health values but the trigger editor is stuck on using "reals" instead of both reals and integers... |
| 21:37.20 | Mozared | I might be dead |
| 21:37.23 | currydevil | so half my variables don't show up |
| 21:37.28 | Mozared | But even as a dead person |
| 21:37.30 | currydevil | because it's looking for reals in the triggers |
| 21:37.33 | Mozared | IMMA FIRIN MA LAZORRRRRR |
| 21:37.41 | Mozared | fires his lazor at goomba_ |
| 21:37.46 | jorgenpt | currydevil: There's a dropdown at the top of the "select value" dialog |
| 21:37.46 | currydevil | and i've seen maps with the same exact trigger using integer variables. |
| 21:37.50 | goomba_ | shoop da whoop |
| 21:38.05 | jorgenpt | currydevil: But, uh, Convert Integer From Real or something |
| 21:38.07 | Otixa | kicks goomba_ in the face |
| 21:38.23 | currydevil | jorgenpt: i will look at it, but i'm sure it was greyed out and stuck on real :( |
| 21:38.37 | jorgenpt | currydevil: If it is, then you need the Convert function. |
| 21:38.44 | currydevil | ok |
| 21:39.17 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Note that converting a real to an int loses any values after the decimal point. |
| 21:39.30 | jorgenpt | currydevil: If you want to do intelligent rounding, look for rounding functions. ;-) |
| 21:39.32 | HeyRevolver|zzzz | so I just watched the GI Joe movie |
| 21:39.41 | currydevil | jorgenpt: yup, i was trying to use "Set Unit Property: Maximum Life: Value (my var)" but the var type it is accepting is real only :( |
| 21:39.51 | jorgenpt | I can't remember, but it's probably Round, Floor and Ceil? |
| 21:39.52 | HeyRevolver|zzzz | you can convert cant you? |
| 21:39.57 | currydevil | jorgenpt: not using any decimals so it's all good :) |
| 21:39.59 | currydevil | yes, |
| 21:40.00 | currydevil | but ... |
| 21:40.05 | jorgenpt | HeyRevolver|zzzz: That's what I've been saying. ^_^ |
| 21:40.08 | currydevil | it's not the easy wa =P |
| 21:40.13 | currydevil | i know..... |
| 21:40.18 | jorgenpt | It's fairly easy. ;-p |
| 21:40.18 | currydevil | i was just explaining my problem |
| 21:40.21 | HeyRevolver|zzzz | hehe sorry didnt mean to jump in, right in the middle |
| 21:40.27 | currydevil | and complaining about the editor being variable-nazi |
| 21:40.42 | jorgenpt | But doing anything in the trigger editor is a bit more complicated than writing the code itself, if you're a programmer. :-p |
| 21:40.58 | currydevil | because i looked at another map, and the same exact trigger in it's entirety, where i got the idea from, used it as an integer :( |
| 21:41.04 | HeyRevolver | is it completely C-based? |
| 21:41.29 | HeyRevolver | from what I can tell it is |
| 21:41.31 | currydevil | well the only code i know how to write is JS and that's not even real code i suppose. |
| 21:41.41 | currydevil | well it is.. |
| 21:41.46 | currydevil | but it's not hard core code ;) |
| 21:42.52 | currydevil | ok, lemme try out this conversion.. because iw ould like to only have to copy/paste my formula a million times than write out individual health values |
| 21:43.05 | jorgenpt | HeyRevolver: As far as I know. I don't write in it, though, because a) the compiler is crap, b) there's /no good reference/. |
| 21:43.11 | Arthas- | "The manifesto of the man holding the Discovery Channel hostage with a bomb has been released. He has fired shots and taken hostages. His main complaints are about overpopulation, religion and civilization. He wants them to avoid encouraging people to produce more 'disgusting human babies,' to get people to accept 'Malthus-Darwin science,' reject civilization and its 'disgusting religious-cultural roots,' and to stop 'ALL immigration pollution.'" |
| 21:43.20 | Arthas- | disgusting human babies :\ |
| 21:43.33 | Arthas- | all they do is cry cry cry. I agree with this guy :D |
| 21:44.05 | currydevil | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.06 | Jum-Jum | hes got a point tho lol |
| 21:44.08 | currydevil | like so |
| 21:44.26 | Arthas- | as i said, i agree :p |
| 21:44.30 | jorgenpt | currydevil: What's your question? |
| 21:44.41 | jorgenpt | currydevil: You could make a function to do that for you. :-) |
| 21:44.50 | currydevil | nothing i guess, just making sure... |
| 21:44.52 | Arthas- | but i wont strap a bomb and take hostages (in a country where the police are allowed to wear firearms!) |
| 21:44.58 | currydevil | i don't write functions >:( |
| 21:45.02 | currydevil | i suppose i could tho |
| 21:45.05 | Arthas- | Now, if sweden could only outlaw law enforcement firearms :D |
| 21:45.08 | currydevil | that's right down my alley with javascript |
| 21:45.33 | Arthas- | although i cant get them either at that point hmm... rocks would have to do :( |
| 21:45.41 | currydevil | though they seemed more complex than i need, unless all those fields are just .. for show? |
| 21:45.48 | currydevil | lemme try. |
| 21:46.30 | Arthas- | Jum-Jum you making any map? |
| 21:46.53 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Functions? You just need to change return value, add parameters and actions. |
| 21:47.06 | jorgenpt | currydevil: If you're re-using the same formula, I mean. |
| 21:47.22 | Jum-Jum | im not making anything Arthas- :| |
| 21:47.35 | Jum-Jum | the things I want to do requires more people if its going to turn out any good |
| 21:47.38 | Arthas- | artist? modeller? =D |
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| 21:47.40 | Jum-Jum | I dont want to make something semi-good |
| 21:47.44 | Jum-Jum | nope |
| 21:47.44 | Arthas- | ah |
| 21:47.46 | currydevil | we'll see how it goes, i never fully understood return values even in JS, but i'll give it a shot. |
| 21:48.01 | Jum-Jum | im more of a gameplay and terrain maker |
| 21:48.15 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Well, if you want that formula, then e.g. add a return value as a real, parameter "Level Counter" and add an action Return. |
| 21:48.18 | Jum-Jum | i havent messed around with the data editor yet, no reason for it. but i did tons of stuff for wc3 i dont think it'll be a prob |
| 21:48.21 | Jum-Jum | what you making Arthas-? |
| 21:48.28 | jorgenpt | currydevil: In return, set Value to Arithmetic, plop in the stuff above. Tadaah. |
| 21:48.43 | Arthas- | Jum-Jum a map with similar gameplay to that of heroes of might and magic |
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| 21:48.55 | currydevil | but the return isn't level counter? |
| 21:49.02 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Hmm? |
| 21:49.11 | currydevil | i mean, the parameter |
| 21:49.13 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Answer this question: Do you use this formula more than one place in your code? |
| 21:49.26 | jorgenpt | currydevil: (With possibly small variations) |
| 21:50.05 | currydevil | Well i planned on it, i was going to use it to set the health of each wave by adding on to the previous wave's calculated health and doing some other multiplacations .. yes |
| 21:50.36 | jorgenpt | Also, a while loop then. :-) |
| 21:50.59 | currydevil | jorgenpt: wave 1 starts as a base value, then each additional wave takes that value and adds 10* the level number to it. |
| 21:51.14 | currydevil | well each wave takes the final value of the wave before |
| 21:51.43 | jorgenpt | Final? As in the value after the wave has passed? |
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| 21:52.26 | currydevil | well, level 1 starts at 30 health, when wave 2 spawns it sets the units health as (Level 2 - 1) + (10 * Level #) |
| 21:52.29 | mattavich-37 | hey fellas |
| 21:52.43 | mattavich-37 | With trigger, how can i make a nuke explode on the death of a unit? |
| 21:53.19 | jorgenpt | mattavich-37: Trigger, Event: Unit Dies |
| 21:54.20 | currydevil | jorgenpt: also, with the parameter, am i redclaring that variable inside the function? (level counter) |
| 21:54.49 | jorgenpt | currydevil: I'm not sure your case needs a function, I think you could solve it with a loop. |
| 21:54.59 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Do you already have a loop? |
| 21:55.38 | currydevil | no, I was just going to initialize an raay of 50 xD with the formula lawl.... and the first index at 30 so it had a value to start with |
| 21:55.43 | mattavich-37 | I jus tneed to know the action to add it really |
| 21:55.43 | currydevil | array* |
| 21:55.56 | mattavich-37 | i wasn't sure what function/action initates the nuke |
| 21:56.33 | jorgenpt | currydevil: I'd do this: |
| 21:56.43 | currydevil | i dunno, lemme show you the trigger i already have for spawning the waves |
| 21:56.54 | currydevil | that might help figure out where i need to put this loop |
| 21:57.08 | Zarafu | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/10021-feedback-smash-tv-2010-intro-cinematic/ |
| 21:57.29 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Create a variable in your trigger, type integer, call it level counter. Set Level Health[0] to 30 (or whatever). Do For Each Integer in 0 to 30, use the level counter variable, add an action. |
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| 21:57.54 | jorgenpt | currydevil: I mean in 1 to 30. |
| 21:58.01 | LordAbyss | ~seen ProzaicMuze |
| 21:58.04 | purl | prozaicmuze is currently on #sc2mapster (2d 16h 57m 9s). Has said a total of 245 messages. Is idling for 1d 17h 26m 48s, last said: 'Credit Cards are lame anyways'. |
| 21:58.04 | mattavich-37 | i think it might be the actor |
| 21:58.04 | mattavich-37 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.10 | jorgenpt | currydevil: That action is Set Variable - Set Level Health[Level Counter] = Level Health[Level Counter - 1] + 10 * Level Counter |
| 21:58.55 | deathnight114 | Anyone here have surround sound speakers? |
| 21:59.04 | Icebane | Does anyone know how to do so that Workers doesn't automatically go for a new Mineral Field when one is dephleted? |
| 21:59.17 | deathnight114 | owait, nvm, i got someone to test it |
| 22:00.27 | goomba_ | moooooooooooooooooooooooza |
| 22:00.28 | currydevil | jorgenpt: what does it matter if "level counter" is local or global? |
| 22:00.29 | goomba_ | you still here? |
| 22:00.38 | goomba_ | ~seen mozared |
| 22:00.40 | purl | mozared is currently on #sc2mapster (1h 44m 54s). Has said a total of 43 messages. Is idling for 23m 7s, last said: 'IMMA FIRIN MA LAZORRRRRR'. |
| 22:00.40 | Mozared | y |
| 22:00.41 | goomba_ | hi |
| 22:00.49 | jorgenpt | currydevil: You shouldn't create global variables if you only refer to it in a single trigger. |
| 22:00.55 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Otherwise you'll get trouble. :-) |
| 22:00.59 | Otixa | puts out his cig in goomba_'s forehead |
| 22:01.05 | Rayden | how do i set the camera start position for players? |
| 22:01.06 | goomba_ | NO IM WEARING |
| 22:01.08 | Rayden | i can't find this anywhere |
| 22:01.10 | goomba_ | A DAMN SPIKEY HELM OK |
| 22:01.14 | Otixa | no |
| 22:01.18 | currydevil | jorgenpt: nu uhhh .. it works fine as it is lawl, i suppose i can change it. |
| 22:01.33 | goomba_ | http://www.mariowiki.com/images/thumb/6/6a/PaperSpikyGoomba.JPG/120px-PaperSpikyGoomba.JPG |
| 22:01.35 | goomba_ | thats me |
| 22:01.45 | Otixa | /no |
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| 22:02.49 | currydevil | jorgenpt: so basically, just add a loop to the top of this? Variable - Set Level Health[0] = (Level Health[(Level Counter - 1)] + (30.0 + ((Real(Level Counter)) * 10.0))) |
| 22:02.59 | currydevil | except.... |
| 22:03.35 | currydevil | not sure how to initialize the first wave with that since it would go to -1 as the index and there is no wave at -1 |
| 22:03.36 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Yes, but change [0] to [Level Counter] |
| 22:03.48 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Make the loop from 1 to 30. |
| 22:04.04 | jorgenpt | currydevil: And add a Set Level Health[0] = 30 (or something) before the loop. |
| 22:04.08 | currydevil | 1-50 .. i have 50 waves |
| 22:04.12 | jorgenpt | currydevil: You get my point |
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| 22:04.17 | currydevil | ok |
| 22:04.28 | currydevil | well i wanted to understand where the 30 was coming from ;) |
| 22:04.46 | jorgenpt | currydevil: The thing with local/global: It's fine as long as the trigger only runs /once/ (like a Map Initialization), but when it can run more than once, the different triggers can be writing to and reading the variable at the same time, messing things up. |
| 22:04.49 | currydevil | i always got confused i math when the teach would just throw out a number... and it was supposed to be understood where it came from ;) |
| 22:05.05 | currydevil | mhm |
| 22:05.05 | Rayden | folks: camera start position, anyone know how they work? |
| 22:05.16 | jorgenpt | currydevil: It came from you, I just misread what you said earlier. :) |
| 22:05.23 | currydevil | ok lol |
| 22:05.32 | currydevil | well, wanted to know how you were using it rather. |
| 22:05.40 | currydevil | as in you were saying 1-30 for the waves |
| 22:05.44 | jorgenpt | currydevil: So it's a good habit to make all variables that are only used in a trigger local, /even/ if it works fine as a global. |
| 22:05.45 | currydevil | =P |
| 22:05.54 | currydevil | gotcha. |
| 22:06.13 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Also, you make the screen for picking variables really cluttered if you make all your variables global when they don't need to be. ;-) |
| 22:06.25 | currydevil | of course. |
| 22:06.38 | currydevil | I suppose that means i have a few to make local >.> |
| 22:06.51 | currydevil | since they're all really only called in that one trigger. |
| 22:06.58 | jorgenpt | One thing is for sure: anything that you use in a For Each Integer should be local. |
| 22:07.10 | jorgenpt | Well, if you later want to access the information in another trigger, then you might want to make it global. |
| 22:07.19 | currydevil | mhm |
| 22:07.36 | currydevil | Ah, i suppose.. i might use them later in the leaderboard |
| 22:08.07 | currydevil | and level counter ;) unless i just make two locals |
| 22:08.25 | currydevil | one for display on the leader board, the other for setting health. |
| 22:08.33 | jorgenpt | You probably shoud |
| 22:08.46 | jorgenpt | One of them is used to iterate over many values. The other one you use to keep track of the current wave number. |
| 22:08.55 | currydevil | mhm |
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| 22:09.43 | Mozared | Alright |
| 22:09.48 | Mozared | Any data editors who can give me a hand? |
| 22:10.03 | Mozared | Got a rather peculiar problem - my sound file is starting at a random place somewhere in the file |
| 22:10.14 | Mozared | So one time it begins playing from the start, the other time halfway through, the other time at the end |
| 22:10.17 | Mozared | it's rather annoying |
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| 22:11.24 | currydevil | jorgenpt: Ok, one last question for the loop. I am making it one time.. then I can use my "set unit property" to then refer to the amounts it set in the loop? |
| 22:11.45 | jorgenpt | Can you rephrase that? |
| 22:12.11 | currydevil | my wave spawn spanws in 9 zones (or how ever many are active players) ... |
| 22:12.29 | currydevil | so i already have 9 if/then's . i put the loop above those? |
| 22:13.30 | rulssi | damn my triggers are a mess |
| 22:13.55 | currydevil | http://pastebin.com/0YD5D1g1 there. |
| 22:14.13 | currydevil | the generals that are not showing are the same as the one that is. |
| 22:16.10 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Yeah, put the loop above that |
| 22:16.16 | currydevil | ok |
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| 22:19.32 | Helral|SC2 | nn all |
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| 22:23.38 | Mozared | goomba_ ? |
| 22:23.51 | Mozared | Or any other data editor really |
| 22:23.52 | sNap | how to show the armor of an unit in the unit window when it is selected? |
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| 22:27.04 | Mozared | Is the data editor bugged or something, maybe? |
| 22:27.19 | Mozared | I made my own sound, with exactly the same data as an official sound, yet it refuses to find my sound =/ |
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| 22:32.54 | RedWraith | oh wow |
| 22:32.57 | RedWraith | I am so disappointed |
| 22:32.59 | RedWraith | by this poll |
| 22:33.04 | RedWraith | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/628254665 |
| 22:33.14 | rrowland | why |
| 22:33.23 | rrowland | zeratul's was the best by far |
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| 22:33.44 | RedWraith | lies |
| 22:33.46 | RedWraith | Matt Horner's |
| 22:33.49 | RedWraith | was the best by far |
| 22:34.02 | goomba_ | agree |
| 22:34.03 | rrowland | negative |
| 22:34.34 | rrowland | the mission where you had to escort the odin automatically disqualifies horner |
| 22:34.36 | currydevil | jorgenpt: itterating through my local var with the loop isn't going to change the actual value of the var will it? |
| 22:34.52 | RedWraith | rrowland, that was one of the best missions in the game. |
| 22:35.00 | RedWraith | The best, of course, was The Great Train Robbery. |
| 22:35.09 | rrowland | Really? That mission sucked |
| 22:35.15 | rrowland | The odin one |
| 22:35.16 | currydevil | Zeratul's last stand mission was cool :) |
| 22:35.27 | rrowland | All of the zeratul missions were good |
| 22:35.29 | RedWraith | yes it was, currydevil, but it also ruined the plot of the game. |
| 22:35.29 | rrowland | All of them |
| 22:35.33 | RedWraith | "IF ONLY WE SAVED KERRIGAN" |
| 22:35.42 | RedWraith | basically forces Jimmy to save her |
| 22:35.45 | currydevil | i suppose lol |
| 22:35.46 | RedWraith | such bullshit |
| 22:36.00 | RedWraith | He HATES the Queen of Blades, more than anyone else. |
| 22:36.21 | sNap | how to show the armor of an unit in the unit window when it is selected? |
| 22:36.33 | rrowland | He doesn't hate kerrigan |
| 22:36.53 | RedWraith | :| |
| 22:41.35 | mattavich-37 | Would anyone like to have a quick game of Obelisk Hellfire? |
| 22:41.44 | mattavich-37 | mattavich 377 EU |
| 22:42.12 | RaydenUni | i don't know what to do on my map |
| 22:42.25 | RaydenUni | since everything i want to work on is completely undocumented and no one knows how to do it |
| 22:42.27 | mattavich-37 | good grief im not allowed to use the word god in mymap |
| 22:42.55 | RedWraith | RaydenUni, what are you working on? |
| 22:43.07 | RedWraith | also lol at "no one knows how to do it" |
| 22:43.17 | RaydenUni | that is lobby stuff |
| 22:43.34 | RaydenUni | but i'm also trying to figure out how to make an item give you an ability |
| 22:43.44 | RaydenUni | there are fields for weapons and behaviors, but not abilities |
| 22:44.01 | SweetZombieJesus | you are allowed to use the word Shit though |
| 22:44.05 | RaydenUni | i'm just losing motivation since i can't even make a map where it properly determines teams |
| 22:44.06 | SweetZombieJesus | blizz used it in the campaign! |
| 22:44.54 | currydevil | jorgenpt: I don't think I even need the loop as the trigger is running itself every time the timer expires. |
| 22:46.09 | Mozared | Does anybody else have the problem of his cameras randomly changing position? |
| 22:46.21 | Mozared | Whenever I play my map, one specific camera view is different every time I try it |
| 22:46.26 | Mozared | Not the slightest why that is |
| 22:46.54 | SweetZombieJesus | you have weird problems |
| 22:46.56 | RaydenUni | never had that |
| 22:47.03 | Mozared | Aye, I certainly do =P |
| 22:47.06 | SweetZombieJesus | gah i broke my system |
| 22:47.07 | SweetZombieJesus | >_< |
| 22:47.10 | mattavich-37 | You are allowed to use the word hell too |
| 22:47.13 | mattavich-37 | but god nope |
| 22:47.15 | SweetZombieJesus | hell isnt a bad word |
| 22:47.31 | mattavich-37 | so we can say..... |
| 22:47.31 | SweetZombieJesus | but god is religious |
| 22:47.40 | mattavich-37 | i hope the world burns and is a shit hell please preach |
| 22:47.43 | SweetZombieJesus | so they want to take the safe way |
| 22:47.43 | mattavich-37 | but we cant say |
| 22:47.46 | mattavich-37 | god save this planet! |
| 22:47.47 | mattavich-37 | lol |
| 22:47.53 | mattavich-37 | by gods names please help the planet |
| 22:47.54 | mattavich-37 | nope |
| 22:47.57 | rulssi | how can i continue a trigger when i have used "wait for trigger to execute, and wait until it completes" |
| 22:48.00 | SweetZombieJesus | so say jesus |
| 22:48.00 | mattavich-37 | but, hell fire this shit hole |
| 22:48.02 | mattavich-37 | yep thats fine |
| 22:48.16 | mattavich-37 | i dont believe in jesus |
| 22:48.28 | mattavich-37 | i believe in shironim, the obelisk god |
| 22:48.38 | SweetZombieJesus | deity? |
| 22:48.46 | mattavich-37 | well, strike-through god, his new title is just "shironim" |
| 22:48.52 | rulssi | do i have to stop the trigger or wtf? |
| 22:48.53 | SweetZombieJesus | just use deity |
| 22:49.00 | mattavich-37 | oh no you're going to make me upload again szj |
| 22:49.04 | SweetZombieJesus | oh noes |
| 22:49.07 | mattavich-37 | hellshit |
| 22:49.09 | SweetZombieJesus | perfection is a bitch |
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| 22:49.18 | rulssi | fucking religion |
| 22:49.22 | rulssi | now it even ruins my irc |
| 22:49.36 | rulssi | gtfo |
| 22:50.00 | nicoli_s | lol |
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| 22:50.26 | mattavich-37 | nice to see parts of the world waking up to the lie that is god/religion |
| 22:50.50 | SweetZombieJesus | minigame 3 done btw :D |
| 22:50.55 | SweetZombieJesus | this one is actually fun |
| 22:50.56 | rulssi | nah, someone is always stupid enough to believe that bullshit |
| 22:50.57 | SweetZombieJesus | and not about math! |
| 22:51.00 | SweetZombieJesus | no more math |
| 22:51.03 | SweetZombieJesus | 1 is plenty |
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| 22:51.18 | mattavich-37 | 1 is more than enough :P |
| 22:51.21 | goomba_ | i pray to the sun |
| 22:51.31 | Mozared | I pray to goomba |
| 22:51.34 | SweetZombieJesus | latest minigame is called Baneling Blowout |
| 22:51.36 | Mozared | but he's never there when I got data issues |
| 22:51.36 | SweetZombieJesus | and yea its hectic |
| 22:51.47 | goomba_ | data issuez |
| 22:51.55 | Mozared | I fixed it now |
| 22:51.57 | mattavich-37 | that starlocks is like a minigame, although obviously took a lot of work |
| 22:51.58 | Mozared | though I have NO CLUE how |
| 22:52.02 | goomba_ | i have my own data issuez :\ |
| 22:52.02 | mattavich-37 | i wish it was on the lobby list |
| 22:52.10 | Mozared | yours are more complicated though =P |
| 22:52.16 | Mozared | right now my only issue is my mysteriously moving camera |
| 22:52.20 | mattavich-37 | Anyone feel like a game of Obelisk hellfire? it is pretty much finished |
| 22:52.35 | Mozared | There's a sexist joke there somewhere |
| 22:52.41 | Mozared | "I'd put my obelisk in your hellfire" |
| 22:52.48 | rulssi | -_- |
| 22:53.18 | Icebane | Does anyone happen to know how to remove the "Mineral Depleted" alert? |
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| 22:53.33 | Mozared | It's probably a behaviour of mineral patches? |
| 22:53.41 | Mozared | But to be completely honest, I've no clue |
| 22:53.56 | Icebane | I've been looking around but I can't find it ;o |
| 22:54.51 | mattavich-37 | YES starlocks is showing on the lobby list now wooo |
| 22:54.54 | mattavich-37 | jus tlow down |
| 22:55.18 | Vophsix | does anyone know the galaxy script native to get a region by name? |
| 22:55.21 | mattavich-37 | come play rulssi :O |
| 22:55.31 | rulssi | im too tired :/ |
| 22:55.37 | SweetZombieJesus | love my how hard this newest minigame is |
| 22:55.40 | Icebane | mattavich-37: hey you got a starlock maps going? |
| 22:55.42 | SweetZombieJesus | i end up at 6sec left out of 60 |
| 22:55.50 | mattavich-37 | yeah ice |
| 22:55.56 | mattavich-37 | come online mattavich 377 |
| 22:56.07 | Icebane | mattavich-37: coool! :D is there any vid on youtube? |
| 22:56.16 | mattavich-37 | errrr dno lol |
| 22:56.18 | SweetZombieJesus | map soon done matty? |
| 22:56.22 | Icebane | mattavich-37: or w/e imma check it out! :D |
| 22:56.25 | mattavich-37 | pretty much done already |
| 22:56.27 | Icebane | oh, is it on EU? |
| 22:56.29 | SweetZombieJesus | sexy |
| 22:56.34 | mattavich-37 | just needs better loading screen text and teamplay support |
| 22:56.43 | mattavich-37 | added a random boss which spawns too |
| 22:56.53 | mattavich-37 | get a powerup for killing him |
| 22:56.59 | SweetZombieJesus | nice |
| 22:57.01 | mattavich-37 | his hp is based on total kills in the gamre |
| 22:57.10 | mattavich-37 | and he is on a random timer hehe |
| 22:57.18 | mattavich-37 | come online szj for starlocks :P |
| 22:57.24 | Icebane | mattavich-37: is the map uploaded on eu? |
| 22:57.33 | mattavich-37 | starlocks? yeah |
| 22:57.38 | mattavich-37 | it is low down in the lobby |
| 22:57.45 | Icebane | mattavich-37: alright, I'll try it out =) |
| 22:57.47 | mattavich-37 | forst time ive seen it in the lobby |
| 22:57.55 | mattavich-37 | i created a game im waiting in there now |
| 22:58.13 | SweetZombieJesus | nah i have to fix this one thing |
| 22:58.15 | SweetZombieJesus | then sleep |
| 22:58.18 | SweetZombieJesus | i have college again :< |
| 22:58.21 | SweetZombieJesus | no more vacation |
| 22:58.25 | SweetZombieJesus | no more staying up till morning |
| 22:58.36 | SweetZombieJesus | tis a sad day |
| 22:59.17 | mattavich-37 | :( |
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| 23:00.02 | rulssi | god my head is exploding |
| 23:00.13 | sNap | How to activate the display of the armor of an unit? |
| 23:00.27 | mattavich-37 | eh? |
| 23:00.41 | mattavich-37 | rulssi come play starlocks it will help |
| 23:00.49 | rulssi | :[ |
| 23:01.01 | rulssi | i cant, i have to fix my map! |
| 23:01.15 | rulssi | its like graveyard of dead triggers |
| 23:01.18 | mattavich-37 | whats up brother |
| 23:01.26 | Icebane | mattavich-37: I just can't find it, can you invite me instead? |
| 23:01.36 | mattavich-37 | yeah add me |
| 23:01.40 | mattavich-37 | mattavich 377 |
| 23:02.39 | rulssi | sigh, ill just start over |
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| 23:03.07 | rulssi | maybe i should use comments to actually know what my code does |
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| 23:03.58 | SweetZombieJesus | radical idea |
| 23:04.14 | SweetZombieJesus | not that i use many |
| 23:04.17 | SweetZombieJesus | used loads in my library |
| 23:04.21 | SweetZombieJesus | but cba now if its just for me |
| 23:05.11 | LordAbyss | zerg sucks |
| 23:05.13 | LordAbyss | :( |
| 23:05.27 | LordAbyss | let me rephrase that |
| 23:05.36 | LordAbyss | exceedingly hard to play against decent people |
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| 23:07.17 | currydevil | possible to show the value of a var in a debug message? |
| 23:07.48 | rulssi | yeah |
| 23:08.01 | Icebane | mattavich-37: wanna try it out 1v1 matta? |
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| 23:11.27 | SouLCarveR | Does anybody know if you can use UnitGroups as an array? |
| 23:14.28 | jorgenpt | SouLCarveR: What do you mean? |
| 23:14.39 | jorgenpt | SouLCarveR: Not directly, no. |
| 23:14.47 | jorgenpt | SouLCarveR: There's a Unit From Unit Group command which gets the unit at index N |
| 23:14.49 | Leaderboard | Is there a way to stop theses annoying "is slowing down the game" messages as well ? |
| 23:14.52 | SouLCarveR | No no |
| 23:14.52 | jorgenpt | SouLCarveR: And you have Pick Each Unit From Unit Group |
| 23:14.56 | SouLCarveR | im talking about an array |
| 23:14.59 | SouLCarveR | of unit groups |
| 23:15.04 | jorgenpt | SouLCarveR: Oh yes, of course you can. |
| 23:15.12 | SouLCarveR | Declaring a unitGroup Variable as an array |
| 23:15.19 | SouLCarveR | editor lets you |
| 23:15.21 | SouLCarveR | but do they work |
| 23:15.26 | jorgenpt | Why wouldn't they? |
| 23:15.28 | currydevil | jorgenpt: localizing the variable is seeming to reset it to 0 every time the trigger fires.... considering the trigger is going to run every time the timer hits 0 .. should i make the var global again? |
| 23:15.32 | jorgenpt | Why don't you just /try/, SouLCarveR? |
| 23:15.37 | SouLCarveR | because im finding that only one of my indexs work |
| 23:15.48 | jorgenpt | Define works. :) |
| 23:15.55 | jorgenpt | currydevil: Yes, that's how local variables work. :) |
| 23:16.12 | currydevil | jorgenpt: well bugger, why did you have me localize it then? hahahaha |
| 23:16.14 | jorgenpt | currydevil: You probably want a global then, if you're referring to it and expecting it to be persistent between trigger fires. |
| 23:16.25 | jorgenpt | currydevil: If it's a loop index, then I don't know why you want it to not be reset to 0. |
| 23:16.43 | Sixen | @Leaderboard: No =| |
| 23:16.44 | jorgenpt | You seemed like you were trying to initialize an array, and that's the way you do it. |
| 23:16.47 | currydevil | jorgenpt: i removed the loop, because the trigger itself was going to fire multuple times |
| 23:17.03 | jorgenpt | Okay, then you want it to be global |
| 23:17.18 | currydevil | I was initializing an array, in a seperate trigger. I was just whining about the trigger action requiring it to be a real :( |
| 23:17.37 | jorgenpt | So you took advice I gave you when making a loop, and applied it to something that uses a completely different architecture. How were you expecting it to work? :-p |
| 23:17.38 | currydevil | when i had made it an integer. I hadn't thought about conversions lol |
| 23:17.47 | currydevil | flawlessly! |
| 23:17.55 | currydevil | because you're jorgenpt! |
| 23:17.57 | currydevil | =P |
| 23:18.24 | currydevil | that's why i should you my trigger, and you still told me to put a loop in it hahahaha |
| 23:18.48 | currydevil | so i did, but i removed the loop. just didn't realize then that the local variable was going to reset to 0 |
| 23:18.56 | jorgenpt | I didn't really read it that much. :-p |
| 23:18.59 | jorgenpt | I skimmed it! |
| 23:19.02 | currydevil | haha, i noticed. |
| 23:19.14 | jorgenpt | Anyway. Local variables are used for things that are only referenced in one trigger *and* you don't need to keep its value between trigger runs. |
| 23:19.17 | currydevil | well, you taught me a few things though, so no harm done =) |
| 23:19.19 | jorgenpt | That's more accurate than my earlier statement. |
| 23:19.43 | currydevil | Now to recreate the global var =X |
| 23:19.44 | jorgenpt | Think of a trigger as a function in javascript and a local variable as something you put 'var' before inside the function. :-p |
| 23:19.51 | sNap | The armor display of my unit is missing, how to display the armor? I cant find the right place to manipulate the unit so that the armor is shown. |
| 23:20.06 | currydevil | I know, but it's been a year or two and i haven't done any scripting in that time. |
| 23:20.11 | Fromethius | anyone know how to get rid of the "Must target a unit with an inventory" bug when you try to sell something to a shop and you're too far away? instead of the alert error it'd be preferable if the unit then moved to the shop and sold it |
| 23:20.18 | mattavich-37 | anyone up for starlcoks add me mattavich 377 |
| 23:20.20 | currydevil | so i wasn't thinking how locals behaved as opposed to globals |
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| 23:20.53 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: Doesn't the "how to make wc3 shops" tutorial tell you how to do that? |
| 23:21.13 | Fromethius | i looked at it but it didn't seem to help |
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| 23:21.19 | Fromethius | i tried checking the Smart flag and the bug still exists |
| 23:21.54 | jorgenpt | I seem to recall there was something about range on the ability was the range in which the ability would let you use it and have it run there. |
| 23:22.09 | Orbiter | I feel like my map has excessive latency on b.net. Is it something I can optimize myself? |
| 23:22.20 | jorgenpt | Orbiter: Depends on the map, :-) |
| 23:22.34 | jorgenpt | Orbiter: If you have periodics that fire very frequently e.g., that'll cause lag. |
| 23:23.09 | Orbiter | Hmm.. I have like 8 periodics every 2 seconds |
| 23:24.17 | jorgenpt | I don't know if that's enough, but it could be it. |
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| 23:24.30 | jorgenpt | I'm assuming it gets worse the more players you have. |
| 23:24.34 | Orbiter | I will try to turn them off and see wha happens |
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| 23:26.12 | currydevil | Fromethius, is the shop a protoss building? |
| 23:26.19 | Fromethius | nevermind i got it working |
| 23:26.36 | Fromethius | i thought the pawn abiltiy range was the range you had to be from to pawn the item |
| 23:26.48 | Fromethius | turns out the drop range actually decides that |
| 23:27.01 | Fromethius | so you just set the range on the pawn ability to 500 and the range on drop to 2 or 2.5 or whatever |
| 23:27.44 | Leaderboard | Hmmm, i'm looking for a way to see the range in my TPS map. Any idea ? |
| 23:28.13 | Fromethius | reports |
| 23:28.20 | Mozared | How can I view my triggers in code? |
| 23:28.43 | Fromethius | save as components? |
| 23:28.53 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: That was what I was trying to say ^_^ |
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| 23:29.08 | jorgenpt | Mozared: Or Data > View Script in the trigger editor |
| 23:29.10 | Fromethius | =D |
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| 23:29.23 | Mozared | Thanks =) |
| 23:29.32 | Carver | who was i just talking to before my computer crashed |
| 23:30.03 | soulcarver | who was i just talking to before my computer crashed |
| 23:30.13 | jorgenpt | Me :-p |
| 23:30.24 | RedWraith | RaydenUni, D: |
| 23:30.26 | RedWraith | Good luck with that. |
| 23:30.31 | jorgenpt | Nope, don't privmsg, soulcarver. :) |
| 23:30.40 | jorgenpt | soulcarver: Keep it out here. Other people can help, other people can benefit. |
| 23:30.52 | RaydenUni | what? |
| 23:31.07 | RaydenUni | good luck with what? |
| 23:31.56 | RedWraith | lobby stuff |
| 23:31.59 | RedWraith | items giving you abilities |
| 23:32.17 | RedWraith | The latter, I'm fairly certain, is impossible except in the same sense research can grant you abilities. |
| 23:32.37 | soulcarver | I dont think cussing about why this isnt working is gonna help anybody out here lol |
| 23:33.14 | jorgenpt | soulcarver: Cussing? |
| 23:33.15 | Fromethius | anyone know why i can see the build ability icons on my baneling builder but not my zealot builder? |
| 23:33.33 | jorgenpt | soulcarver: Oh, I was just assuming you were gonna ask me to debug your problem in privmsg. |
| 23:33.33 | Fromethius | (as an enemy) |
| 23:33.43 | Orbiter | anyone want to test my map to determine if it's battle.net or some issue I have with the map? |
| 23:34.09 | Orbiter | need a second opinion on the latency |
| 23:34.15 | soulcarver | well i have some more technical questions like |
| 23:34.33 | soulcarver | is using "triggering player" bad to pass as a parameter to a threaded function? |
| 23:35.39 | soulcarver | doesnt make much sense works when im player 1 but not player 2 which tells me some where along the way triggering player is failing and defaulting to value of 1 like it ussually does |
| 23:36.33 | jorgenpt | soulcarver: No, it calls Triggering Player in the calling context, so the function just gets the value. |
| 23:36.56 | jorgenpt | soulcarver: You should try using Debug Message, maybe? |
| 23:37.10 | soulcarver | im adding text messages all over atm |
| 23:41.02 | goomba_ | has anyone ever actually beaten overrun |
| 23:41.08 | goomba_ | ive never managed to get past like 12 or 13 |
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| 23:41.13 | Orbiter | jorgenpt:: I turned off all periodic events but I still experience the same lag (170 ms'ish) |
| 23:41.17 | goomba_ | and hes talkin about adding 20-30 lol |
| 23:41.21 | jorgenpt | Ok, hm |
| 23:41.51 | Orbiter | It is smooth when I play it locally |
| 23:41.59 | Orbiter | So it must be b.net |
| 23:42.16 | Orbiter | but it ruins the playability of my map |
| 23:43.46 | Otixa | bored |
| 23:43.47 | Otixa | >:| |
| 23:43.52 | Leaderboard | Eh, is there a way to load a medivac with triggers ? |
| 23:43.55 | currydevil | no goomba, i get to like 15 at my best. |
| 23:44.17 | Orbiter | Leaderboard: issue an order to the medivac to load your unit |
| 23:44.40 | Leaderboard | not exactly what I wanted |
| 23:44.53 | Leaderboard | I don't have any unit on the terrain :) |
| 23:44.57 | Leaderboard | it's like reinforcements |
| 23:45.01 | soulcarver | Orbiter try running your map with the trigger debugger open |
| 23:46.03 | currydevil | hrm, my health set formula doesn't seem to be working. |
| 23:46.16 | currydevil | properly i might add |
| 23:46.52 | Icebane | Hey is there a way to change the resource icon via the editor? |
| 23:46.59 | Icebane | I heard you could do it manually. |
| 23:47.07 | Icebane | But not in editor, is that true? |
| 23:47.29 | Orbiter | soulcarver: Activity is like.. under 10 even on the peaks |
| 23:48.10 | soulcarver | dunno |
| 23:48.22 | soulcarver | is the lag online or offline? |
| 23:48.44 | Orbiter | only on b.net |
| 23:48.54 | soulcarver | are you using keypress events? |
| 23:49.00 | Orbiter | only middlemouse |
| 23:49.01 | currydevil | So my formula: Variable - Set Level Health[Level Count] = (Level Health[(Level Count - 1)] + ((Real(Level Count)) * 10.0)) : is not adding properly. it's setting the unit health as the second half of the formula. |
| 23:49.36 | soulcarver | well keep your game minimized and try it online with your trigger debugger open |
| 23:49.58 | Icebane | Orbiter: Well I heard key press events causes lantency if not used "properly", there is a way to get it working but I dunno how :P |
| 23:50.02 | soulcarver | not minimized but in window mode |
| 23:50.21 | Orbiter | will it cause lag even when the trigger is not fired? |
| 23:50.42 | soulcarver | it shouldnt |
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| 23:52.06 | Orbiter | hmm it seemed to be better now actually |
| 23:52.09 | Orbiter | about 100 ms maybe |
| 23:52.12 | Icebane | If the whole trigger is diabled no ofc not. But if its on and the event runs I think it could mess up. |
| 23:52.13 | soulcarver | Orbiter do you use a different camera view then the default game camera? |
| 23:52.17 | Orbiter | yes |
| 23:52.27 | sNap | The armor display of my unit is missing, how to display the armor? I cant find the right place to manipulate the unit so that the armor is shown. |
| 23:52.29 | Orbiter | zoomed out to a distance of 60 |
| 23:52.35 | soulcarver | try setting your camera to the default game camera |
| 23:52.40 | soulcarver | check if it lags |
| 23:52.52 | soulcarver | turn down your graphics see if it still lags |
| 23:53.35 | soulcarver | the cameras really arnt made to be anything from top down... depending on how you set your map up it may lag like hell if your not looking at the terrain but up in the sky |
| 23:54.15 | Orbiter | seems like its ok now |
| 23:54.31 | Orbiter | don't think it's possible to get under 100ms on battle.net |
| 23:54.42 | Orbiter | which sucks monkeyballs |
| 23:55.18 | Orbiter | I have become too spoiled from playing dota on b.net with listchecker and 9 ms |
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| 23:56.32 | soulcarver | yes |
| 23:56.38 | soulcarver | bnet is gonna suck balls for lag |
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| 23:56.53 | Cryosis | well that's easy |
| 23:56.56 | Cryosis | just play it over Lan |
| 23:56.58 | Cryosis | oh wait.. |
| 23:56.58 | soulcarver | i think bnet runs at standard 130 |
| 23:57.04 | Orbiter | pirate b.net servers are bound to be created if blizzard doesn't improve on the ms |
| 23:57.16 | soulcarver | Pirate Bnet Servers are gonna be FTW |
| 23:57.26 | Orbiter | indeed |
| 23:57.43 | soulcarver | really all you need if you wanna play lan |
| 23:57.44 | Icebane | Blizzard will launch a major patch, promise! |
| 23:57.57 | Icebane | Cause they really haven't done a shit since release. |
| 23:58.00 | Icebane | So its coming. |
| 23:58.14 | Orbiter | I hope blizzard will support non-rts synchronization |
| 23:58.20 | Orbiter | like fps sync for fps cuystom maps |
| 23:58.52 | pinzu | haha |
| 23:59.05 | pinzu | they will probably just do some balancing and say "keke" |
| 23:59.19 | Orbiter | yeah |
| 23:59.29 | currydevil | <PROTECTED> |
