| 00:00.11 | goomba_ | if you put damage to 30 and the effect-random field to 40 |
| 00:00.15 | goomba_ | the damage is 30-70 |
| 00:00.41 | Icebane | Heres an evasion ability with random effect, maybe it will inspire you: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/6209-unit-miss/ |
| 00:00.54 | Icebane | 50% chance to evade that is |
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| 00:02.00 | xavierkress | Icebane, truly thankful, was getting frustrated :D |
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| 00:05.04 | Icebane | xavierkress: no worries mate, I well know how to navigate tha forumz so if you have problem don't hesitate to ask! :) |
| 00:05.25 | xavierkress | Cool will do :D |
| 00:07.06 | mattavich-377 | I'm itching to release my map now |
| 00:07.41 | Icebane | mattavich-377: who isnt? ^^ |
| 00:07.45 | mattavich-377 | 15 days to go |
| 00:07.58 | mattavich-377 | don't mean to bloat but obelisk hellfire is so cool |
| 00:08.01 | mattavich-377 | lol |
| 00:08.06 | mattavich-377 | gloat* |
| 00:08.16 | mattavich-377 | i know a lot of people going to have a lot of fun |
| 00:08.37 | mattavich-377 | once sept 11th is here |
| 00:08.44 | mattavich-377 | can we go public ON spet 11th? |
| 00:08.52 | mattavich-377 | or the next day? |
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| 00:26.37 | Icebane | I really should got to sleep but darn thats so boring! o.o |
| 00:27.09 | Vail | hello all |
| 00:27.15 | Vail | and hello goomba_ |
| 00:27.28 | Icebane | Heyah! |
| 00:30.20 | Vail | goomba_: i believe i have a solution to you problem |
| 00:30.23 | soundsnc | anyone know if you can store a light or a soundtrack as a variable? |
| 00:30.30 | soundsnc | i cant seem to find the type in the drop down list |
| 00:31.00 | Vail | why would you need to store a soundtrack as a variable? |
| 00:31.16 | Icebane | soundsnc: maybe Sound Link? |
| 00:31.30 | soundsnc | because i have a level generator with all its values stored as an array[level] and i want each level to have a different soundtrack |
| 00:31.47 | Vail | ah |
| 00:32.19 | soundsnc | tried that icebane, only helps for sounds |
| 00:32.55 | Icebane | soundsnc: but do you want ingame sound tracks or custom? |
| 00:33.14 | soundsnc | custom, which i set up with the data editor |
| 00:33.35 | soundsnc | i know i could refer to the sound directly but it doesnt replace the music, they merely clash unless i use soundtrack |
| 00:34.20 | soundsnc | its alright if i cant, that aspect of my code will just be redundant and less efficient |
| 00:34.44 | soundsnc | just figured id check in with you guys |
| 00:34.48 | rooj | I HAVE WORKING SLAM TRAPS |
| 00:34.54 | rooj | woooooooooooooooo |
| 00:35.10 | Icebane | rooj: Greeeat! :D how did you solve it? |
| 00:35.26 | Cryosis | anyone ever use footprints when doing terrain def? |
| 00:35.41 | Cryosis | I can't get it to terrain def anything besides a box |
| 00:35.48 | rooj | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.48 | rooj | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.48 | rooj | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.48 | rooj | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.48 | rooj | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.48 | rooj | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.49 | rooj | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.49 | rooj | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.50 | rooj | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.50 | rooj | er |
| 00:35.53 | rooj | sorry |
| 00:35.53 | rooj | lol |
| 00:36.41 | Vulfe | oh |
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| 00:36.44 | Vulfe | hi everyone |
| 00:36.48 | Icebane | rooj: oh well, gj! :) |
| 00:36.56 | Icebane | Heyah Vulfe! |
| 00:36.59 | rooj | thanks and thanks for the help~~!!!! |
| 00:37.10 | Icebane | rooj: no worries! ^^ |
| 00:37.16 | Vulfe | Icebane: do I know you? |
| 00:37.17 | xavierkress | Hey Icebane, with the bridge, when I add terrain Object and associate it with CTerrainObject do I use say the Editor Name: "Mar Sara Bridge" or is there another name I should associate it with to get that specific bridge to do what I need it to do? |
| 00:37.30 | Icebane | Vulfe: Nope! ^^ |
| 00:37.36 | Vulfe | mmk |
| 00:37.40 | Vulfe | that's cool |
| 00:38.20 | Icebane | xavierkress: if it is an unit I think you should use the Unit ID, if its an actor use the actor ID |
| 00:38.31 | Icebane | xavierkress: I guess.. xD |
| 00:38.36 | xavierkress | hehe |
| 00:38.44 | xavierkress | Don't worry I'm guessing too |
| 00:38.46 | Vulfe | Icebane: Well, I'm the resident not-sucking-at-terrain guy |
| 00:38.48 | Vulfe | nice to meet you |
| 00:39.30 | Icebane | Vulfe: Cool! :D I'm a cheerful lad with to much time spent in the WarCraft 3 editor without any actual results xD |
| 00:39.41 | Vulfe | I did the same thing |
| 00:39.44 | Icebane | and now I've moved on to sc2 |
| 00:39.46 | Vulfe | but now I'm actually making things in sc2 |
| 00:39.48 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:39.51 | Icebane | thinking "This time I'll do it!!" |
| 00:39.54 | Icebane | -.- |
| 00:39.58 | Icebane | thats silly haha |
| 00:40.01 | Vulfe | I'm like 50% of the way through my map terrain |
| 00:40.07 | Vulfe | did some trigger stuff... |
| 00:40.12 | Vulfe | I can manage data pretty well |
| 00:40.13 | Icebane | Oh lol, I just said that 1h ago |
| 00:40.23 | Icebane | Dito! |
| 00:40.23 | Vail | i am the same as well didnt really get anything done in WC3 but im working on a mod here |
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| 00:40.52 | Icebane | Alright, I'm working on an innovative defense map atm! ^^ |
| 00:40.55 | Vulfe | I made a CTF game in war3, a turn based combat game, and a lame TD |
| 00:40.58 | Zachet | What's a good way to make an array of regions on a grid, is there only way to make a unit run through really quick and save last visited region? |
| 00:41.08 | Vulfe | so naturally I'm good at coming up with absurd workarounds |
| 00:42.05 | Icebane | Oh lol yeah! absurd workarounds with GUI rocks! |
| 00:42.19 | Icebane | I did some things coders said didnt work with gui in wc3 |
| 00:42.21 | Icebane | :> |
| 00:43.24 | Icebane | and btw Vulfe, I've seen you on the forums |
| 00:43.36 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 00:43.40 | Vulfe | My name on the forums is Efluv |
| 00:43.43 | Vulfe | Vulfe was taken |
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| 00:43.49 | Zachet | So, guess I will make top-left corner base, have an invisible fast zergling run to bottom of map, save each region into an array, spawn zerglings at each of these arrays to run to the right end of the map, save each variable to a region... |
| 00:43.54 | Zachet | No easier way? |
| 00:44.00 | Vulfe | I only have like 5 forum posts |
| 00:44.06 | Vulfe | because people should come HERE to ask stupid questions |
| 00:44.07 | Vulfe | :D |
| 00:44.12 | Icebane | Vulfe: Oh then I've seen your evil twin |
| 00:44.16 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:44.17 | Vulfe | mmk |
| 00:44.36 | Zachet | Well smart questions don't get answered, just stupid questions get answered ;) |
| 00:45.02 | Icebane | I just started lurking here yesterday actually |
| 00:45.06 | Icebane | or was it today? |
| 00:45.07 | Icebane | I dunno |
| 00:45.22 | Icebane | days are passing to quick when you do the same things all day |
| 00:45.53 | Vail | days drag on when you do nothing all day ... |
| 00:46.35 | Icebane | Why do nothing? |
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| 00:46.40 | Icebane | Seems ridiculos! |
| 00:46.52 | GeEom | doesnt it just? |
| 00:47.32 | Vail | i have nothing to do no work ... and college is still out for another few days |
| 00:47.42 | Icebane | Cause when I find myself doing nothing for a sec I jump into the editor! |
| 00:47.58 | Icebane | EDITOR! EDITOR! 8D 8D <3 <3 |
| 00:48.05 | Vail | i dont always count the editor because often i just stare at it |
| 00:48.52 | Icebane | There is ALWAYS something to do in the editor! |
| 00:48.57 | Icebane | For me its like a child in a sandbox |
| 00:49.10 | Vail | i have toxic creep and i need a counter for it for terrans |
| 00:49.24 | Vail | and air units are out because i have creep gas |
| 00:49.26 | Suterusu | hazmat suit |
| 00:50.02 | Icebane | I just figured this IRC will keep me up even later during the nights! |
| 00:50.07 | Icebane | Darn this freenode! |
| 00:50.13 | Icebane | Darn I tell you! |
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| 00:50.53 | Vail | hazmat armor would be cool if i could figure out how to do it ... |
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| 00:51.12 | Icebane | Whats an hazmat armor? |
| 00:51.14 | Suterusu | you step into it and zip it up |
| 00:51.16 | Icebane | *googling* |
| 00:51.24 | Suterusu | hazardous materials |
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| 00:51.35 | Suterusu | like for biochemical and radiation |
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| 00:51.53 | Icebane | Oh, like the ones in S.T.A.L.K.E.R! :D |
| 00:52.00 | Icebane | and in HL2 |
| 00:52.16 | Zachet | Can I compare last created unit to 1 to test if it is still alive? |
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| 00:52.32 | Suterusu | if it's within the same trigger |
| 00:52.37 | Suterusu | and it's the last created unit |
| 00:52.41 | Zachet | Yeah okay |
| 00:52.42 | Zachet | cool |
| 00:52.44 | Suterusu | but |
| 00:52.48 | Suterusu | actually |
| 00:52.52 | Suterusu | there is a function for alive |
| 00:52.56 | Suterusu | I'd call that |
| 00:53.02 | Zachet | =/ |
| 00:53.05 | Suterusu | a unit cannot equal an integer |
| 00:53.23 | Suterusu | unit must equal a unit type or unit variable |
| 00:53.24 | Zachet | Well a unit is an object, so wouldn't it be like... if object == true? |
| 00:53.30 | Suterusu | no |
| 00:53.32 | Zachet | mkay |
| 00:53.37 | Suterusu | there is a function for alive |
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| 00:54.33 | Suterusu | like Unit is Alive |
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| 00:54.40 | Icebane | Condition - "Units in Region Matchin Condition" |
| 00:55.05 | Zachet | ahh I had the wrong thing open, I guess that function would work :) |
| 00:55.08 | Icebane | that way you can add many kinds of conditions in one functions! :) |
| 00:55.20 | Atlos | hmm, wtf |
| 00:55.32 | Atlos | my building has an 8x8 footprint |
| 00:55.38 | Atlos | but units get screwed up attacking it |
| 00:55.43 | Atlos | they run inside the building |
| 00:55.48 | Atlos | and only like 5 can attack the center |
| 00:55.57 | Suterusu | maybe they go inside for food? |
| 00:55.59 | Suterusu | or for wc? |
| 00:56.00 | Atlos | lol |
| 00:56.07 | Atlos | I've set the unit radius to the max value though |
| 00:56.10 | Atlos | 7.75 |
| 00:56.14 | Atlos | so I don't get what's wrong |
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| 00:57.13 | GeEom | inner radius = the colision zone. |
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| 00:58.03 | Atlos | I set that to the max too |
| 00:58.14 | Atlos | and it still doesn't stop units from running inside |
| 00:58.22 | GeEom | then the problem is on the other end |
| 00:58.42 | GeEom | unless your units and buildings are not on intersecting colision planes (make sure ground is checked for both) |
| 00:58.44 | Zachet | Is there an easy way to make a unit run to the end of map without specifying a location or coordinates or making a point or region? |
| 00:59.18 | Atlos | yea both set to ground |
| 00:59.29 | Atlos | think the footprint might have messed it up? |
| 00:59.31 | GeEom | Zachet why bother? yes you could spekle like 20 random points and then pick the one closest to the area you want, but really? just use random offset or something |
| 00:59.49 | Icebane | it could be the movers of the units indeed! =) |
| 01:00.10 | GeEom | No idea atlos, i hear footprints are a bloody nightmare, why not start off a duplicate base of a functional footprint? |
| 01:00.23 | Atlos | let me test one thing |
| 01:00.29 | Atlos | that I changed |
| 01:00.50 | GeEom | aint gonna stop you |
| 01:01.16 | Zachet | So if I order a unit to move offset by say -900 but map only extends to -700 it wont just cancel that order? |
| 01:03.25 | Atlos | hmm, the footprint was the problem |
| 01:03.31 | Atlos | it's still slightly messed up |
| 01:03.42 | Atlos | but it works better than before |
| 01:03.49 | Atlos | I changed from 8x8 to 8x8 contoured which I hadn't edited |
| 01:04.42 | Icebane | OH LOL, I should sleep. I was thinking "Hey, I wanna listen to that song." And then even without noticing, I tabbed to spotify, selected that song, started playing it and tabbed back to sc2 |
| 01:04.48 | Icebane | without noticing! xD |
| 01:05.03 | Icebane | That creeped me out, shit! |
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| 01:10.54 | Cryosis | is it possible to use heightmaps? |
| 01:11.02 | Cryosis | import height into SC2? |
| 01:11.14 | Cryosis | I need 2 sections of a map pretty much mirrored |
| 01:11.24 | madsquare | you can use copy/paste |
| 01:11.46 | madsquare | just need to have the terrain window open, then you can select stuff |
| 01:12.04 | madsquare | respective window for units and doodads of course |
| 01:12.32 | rooj | has anyone made a grenade launcher weapon yet? :P |
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| 01:16.52 | AsaPhelps | probably quite a few |
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| 01:20.37 | Icebane | Now I'm off to bed! I'll see you tommorowz or something! :) |
| 01:21.03 | Icebane | nn! |
| 01:21.10 | xavierkress | later Ice |
| 01:21.35 | Atlos | anybody want to help test my map? |
| 01:21.37 | Atlos | I just published it public |
| 01:21.49 | GeEom | overstated? |
| 01:22.00 | Atlos | ? |
| 01:22.12 | GeEom | published it public. |
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| 01:23.41 | Atlos | you can publish it private |
| 01:24.14 | currydevil | i can help. Kinda bored. US? |
| 01:24.23 | Atlos | yea, US |
| 01:24.27 | Atlos | for sc1? |
| 01:24.28 | Atlos | have you played helms deep annatar |
| 01:24.44 | Atlos | it's just a simple remake of it |
| 01:24.56 | currydevil | k, magnade.936 |
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| 01:26.29 | AsaPhelps | i didn't like helm's deep much personally |
| 01:27.02 | Suterusu | when a structure with ability train creates a unit, how would I go about setting where the unit is created at, ie an offset of the created unit 1.0 from 270 degrees |
| 01:27.26 | Suterusu | is that in ability offset? |
| 01:27.26 | Atlos | anybody else want in? |
| 01:28.37 | currydevil | Not sure Sut, i have the same question though, my flying barracks trains at the offset from a landed barracks instead of beneath it :( if i figure it out, i'll let you know |
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| 01:36.37 | Nash|327 | Fringe is gaining popularity :o |
| 01:36.44 | Nash|327 | 63 games in last hour D: |
| 01:38.47 | Vail | damn why wont this work.. |
| 01:39.21 | arturusfury | whats that vail? |
| 01:41.50 | Vail | a buff that is supposed to prevent all spell damage for 15 seconds |
| 01:42.37 | arturusfury | and is it not preventing damage, or applying to the unit or ...? |
| 01:42.46 | Vail | not preventing damage. |
| 01:48.05 | Cryosis | Any way to mirror terrain? |
| 01:48.10 | Cryosis | besides doing it by hand :\ |
| 01:49.45 | Vail | copy paste and flip is all i know of |
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| 01:50.41 | ekcolnovkol | wheeeeee have no fear, i am here |
| 01:51.00 | arturusfury | well damn :P |
| 01:51.07 | Cryosis | you can copy paste terrain? |
| 01:51.16 | Vail | yes |
| 01:51.21 | Cryosis | the height map itself |
| 01:52.19 | Cryosis | holy (*&( |
| 01:52.21 | Cryosis | so you can |
| 01:52.29 | Vail | nod' |
| 01:52.36 | Cryosis | I've never seen an editor where you can just copy paste height map |
| 01:54.46 | Cobellanez | Where do I modify starting resources? |
| 01:55.31 | madsquare | try battleforge cryosis |
| 01:55.47 | Cryosis | battleforge? |
| 01:56.11 | madsquare | its a game |
| 01:56.15 | madsquare | a poor one |
| 01:56.23 | madsquare | with a poor editor |
| 01:56.41 | madsquare | importing and exporting heightmap is the only way to mirror your map |
| 01:57.04 | madsquare | doesnt even have a grid |
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| 01:57.49 | Vail | i dont get this it should be canceling damage not reducing it to 1 |
| 01:58.48 | Nash|327 | In SC1, even with 255 armor you still took 1 damage from attacks |
| 01:58.50 | Technomancer | question: I imported a textured model and for some reason there is a red sheen over it (texture included) wtf is that about? :S |
| 02:02.01 | Xaragoth | i believe you can only reduce it to 99% |
| 02:02.06 | Xaragoth | which is rounded up to 1 dmg |
| 02:02.22 | Xaragoth | probably because otherwise it'd have some kind of bug, at least that is my guess |
| 02:02.25 | Vail | ah i got it fixed i didnt have the right option enabled |
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| 02:04.56 | rrowland | telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl |
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| 02:07.36 | Technomancer | when I import models without texture, they arent white but light red/pink, and when I import their respective texture... that red sheen stays over it :S what would cause models to do this? |
| 02:08.21 | Vail | i dont know anything about importing models |
| 02:08.47 | Technomancer | kk |
| 02:11.14 | Vail | maybe one of the texture maps is missing or isnt proper? |
| 02:13.22 | Atlos | hey quick question |
| 02:13.28 | Atlos | if you don't include an and in conditions |
| 02:13.32 | Atlos | are they anded by default? |
| 02:13.41 | Atlos | (if there's more than one condition) |
| 02:14.58 | Ahmaz | How do you rotate units once placed on the map? |
| 02:15.36 | Nash|327 | select |
| 02:15.39 | Nash|327 | click enter |
| 02:15.42 | Nash|327 | rotate |
| 02:15.45 | Vulfe | nash: no |
| 02:15.48 | Vulfe | ctrl click |
| 02:15.50 | Vulfe | is so much easier |
| 02:15.51 | Vulfe | anyway |
| 02:15.59 | Nash|327 | bah |
| 02:16.02 | Ahmaz | Ctrl click moves my unit? |
| 02:16.13 | Vulfe | ctrl click rotates all selected units |
| 02:16.16 | Vulfe | to face the clicked point |
| 02:16.18 | Nash|327 | I must set stuff to exact angles! |
| 02:16.22 | Ahmaz | AHHH |
| 02:16.24 | Vulfe | not units x.x |
| 02:16.26 | Ahmaz | Awesome! |
| 02:16.31 | Ahmaz | Thanks Vulfe and Nash|327 |
| 02:16.37 | Ahmaz | And lol Nash|327 |
| 02:16.41 | Vulfe | Atlos: The default relationship between numerous conditions when unspecified is and |
| 02:16.49 | Nash|327 | multiples of 45 |
| 02:16.53 | Vulfe | that is, all of them must be satisfied |
| 02:16.54 | Atlos | ok cool |
| 02:17.25 | Nash|327 | actually, I don't, but if I do change rotation it tends to be a multiple of 45 |
| 02:17.27 | Atlos | my friend is just a noob :P |
| 02:17.40 | Nash|327 | was worse with this MP3 walkman I had |
| 02:17.49 | Nash|327 | it showed volume as a number |
| 02:18.06 | Nash|327 | I had to set the volume to a multiple of 5 or 8 |
| 02:18.10 | Ahmaz | Wonderful wonderful.. I have 2 critters and 1 unit.. I feel powerful!!! |
| 02:18.13 | Nash|327 | or it would bother me |
| 02:18.15 | Nash|327 | :/ |
| 02:19.40 | Vulfe | Is ProzaicMuze in here? |
| 02:19.43 | Vulfe | D: |
| 02:19.45 | Vulfe | I need actor help |
| 02:19.47 | Nash|327 | NOES |
| 02:20.19 | Vulfe | I have a model that's attached to a unit via the event Ability.Assassinate.TargetPrepareStart, and I can't get it to host it on the unit's head |
| 02:20.27 | Vulfe | : ( |
| 02:20.32 | Nash|327 | lies |
| 02:21.03 | ProzaicMuze | SourcePrepareStart |
| 02:21.28 | Vulfe | No |
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| 02:21.31 | Vulfe | TargetPrepareStart |
| 02:21.33 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 02:21.38 | ProzaicMuze | SourcePrepareStart |
| 02:21.41 | Vulfe | No |
| 02:21.43 | ProzaicMuze | At Target (Term) |
| 02:21.45 | Vulfe | I'm making it at the targeted unit |
| 02:21.49 | Vulfe | that doesn't work |
| 02:21.49 | ProzaicMuze | SourcePrepareStart |
| 02:21.50 | Vulfe | I tried it |
| 02:21.53 | Vulfe | I TRIED IT |
| 02:21.57 | ProzaicMuze | Then you're doing it wrong :) |
| 02:21.58 | Vulfe | That's what I had at first |
| 02:22.02 | Vulfe | and it didn't do anything |
| 02:22.03 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:22.21 | Vulfe | That's why the TargetPrepareStart exists |
| 02:22.23 | Vulfe | isn't it? |
| 02:22.43 | ProzaicMuze | Not to my knowledge |
| 02:22.51 | Vulfe | Anyway, I tried SourcePrepareStart with At Target Term |
| 02:22.53 | Vulfe | the model never appeared |
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| 02:23.11 | ProzaicMuze | SourcePrepareStart means when you are the source of the ability |
| 02:23.47 | ProzaicMuze | Do you have the right Host alias? |
| 02:23.54 | Vulfe | TargetPrepareStart apparently means when you are the target of an ability start preparation |
| 02:23.59 | Vulfe | I had the Host+ defaulted |
| 02:24.04 | ProzaicMuze | to? |
| 02:24.08 | Vulfe | Implicits |
| 02:24.13 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 02:24.16 | ProzaicMuze | Need _Unit |
| 02:24.19 | ProzaicMuze | for Subject |
| 02:24.29 | ProzaicMuze | And SOpAttachHead for Host SOPs |
| 02:24.34 | Vulfe | Yeah |
| 02:24.36 | Vulfe | okay |
| 02:24.44 | Vulfe | So Host+ Subject _Unit |
| 02:24.49 | Vulfe | and then try the same thing I did before? |
| 02:24.50 | Vail|Vail | Heya ProazicMuze Teach me the ways of the actors oh wise one.. |
| 02:24.51 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 02:25.01 | ProzaicMuze | Subject > Alias > _Unit |
| 02:25.03 | ProzaicMuze | And then try again |
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| 02:25.30 | ProzaicMuze | points Vail to his tutorials |
| 02:25.52 | Vulfe | Lol |
| 02:25.54 | Vulfe | Wait a second |
| 02:25.57 | Vail|Vail | yes i have looked at them ... they didnt help me figure out the missle problem i was having |
| 02:25.58 | Vulfe | What is At Target under |
| 02:25.59 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 02:26.07 | ProzaicMuze | At (Term) |
| 02:26.18 | Vulfe | what's the Term Type? |
| 02:26.19 | Vail|Vail | but i did figure it out... |
| 02:26.27 | arturusfury | hey Prozaic, you were right the new leverage was hilarious |
| 02:26.30 | Atlos | anybody else want to test my map? |
| 02:26.32 | ProzaicMuze | At |
| 02:26.38 | Vulfe | That's not there |
| 02:26.39 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 02:26.40 | ProzaicMuze | Of course I was right, I's teh best TV critic evah :D |
| 02:26.48 | arturusfury | lol |
| 02:26.49 | Vail|Vail | hmm |
| 02:26.53 | Lilianna | Prozaic is never right! |
| 02:26.57 | ProzaicMuze | @.@ |
| 02:27.05 | ProzaicMuze | kicks Lily off teh MDotA team |
| 02:27.05 | Lilianna | Warehouse 13 is da best show evah! |
| 02:27.09 | Lilianna | D: |
| 02:27.14 | Vulfe | Prozaic |
| 02:27.19 | Vulfe | At doesn't exist for abilities |
| 02:27.21 | Vulfe | only for effects |
| 02:27.24 | Vulfe | -_- |
| 02:27.28 | ProzaicMuze | Then you need to change how you are creating the model |
| 02:27.33 | ProzaicMuze | When is it s'posed to show up?> |
| 02:27.41 | Vulfe | when the ability is prepared |
| 02:27.42 | Vulfe | on a target |
| 02:27.51 | Vulfe | and I'm not going to create pointless persistents for this |
| 02:27.52 | ProzaicMuze | Do you have phase durations at all? |
| 02:27.59 | Vulfe | phase durations? |
| 02:28.00 | Lilianna | I want to Love You Madly, I want to Looove you NOW! |
| 02:28.02 | ProzaicMuze | For your spell |
| 02:28.02 | Vail|Vail | prozaic did you know that if you dont have an individual missile unit for each missile attach actor the attack actor will default to the missiles? |
| 02:28.04 | ProzaicMuze | is it instant cast? |
| 02:28.06 | Vulfe | No |
| 02:28.11 | Vulfe | It's .5 Prepare, 1.5 Cast |
| 02:28.13 | Vulfe | I mean |
| 02:28.14 | Vulfe | Yes |
| 02:28.15 | Vulfe | XD |
| 02:28.30 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 02:28.39 | ProzaicMuze | so is it instant cast or do you have those phase durations? |
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| 02:28.45 | Vulfe | phase durations |
| 02:28.45 | Vulfe | sorry |
| 02:28.46 | Vulfe | XD |
| 02:29.02 | ProzaicMuze | will not love Lily. . . because he's always wrong. . . for everyone :( |
| 02:29.11 | ProzaicMuze | @Vail - what do you mean by that? Default to what? |
| 02:29.22 | Vulfe | I'll brb |
| 02:29.24 | Vulfe | testing something |
| 02:29.37 | Vail|Vail | sorry it will use the attack actor that is original to the missle.. |
| 02:30.03 | ProzaicMuze | Huh? |
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| 02:30.26 | ProzaicMuze | If you made the missile unit from scratch, are the attack actors not the original actors? |
| 02:30.33 | Lilianna | I like singing to songs on my Pandora |
| 02:30.35 | Vulfe | Mmk Prozaic |
| 02:30.35 | Lilianna | don't blame me! |
| 02:30.36 | Vulfe | I got it working |
| 02:30.41 | Lilianna | gives Porzaic a cookie. |
| 02:30.48 | ProzaicMuze | steals the cookie from Porzaic |
| 02:30.56 | Lilianna | yes |
| 02:30.57 | Vulfe | I used Abil.Assassinate.TargetPrepStart with _Unit Subject on Host and SOpAttachHead |
| 02:31.02 | Vulfe | and it works as intended |
| 02:31.06 | Lilianna | Porzaic is an evil bad person and deserves his cookies stolen |
| 02:31.08 | Vulfe | add that to your knowledge base |
| 02:31.17 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 02:31.22 | ProzaicMuze | You mean add aliases to your knowledge base? |
| 02:31.26 | Vulfe | But just because I'm curious, how would you normally do it? |
| 02:31.29 | ProzaicMuze | Since the alias fixed your problem ;) |
| 02:31.33 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 02:31.34 | Vulfe | Well |
| 02:31.35 | Vulfe | The thing is |
| 02:31.44 | Vulfe | why don't you use TargetPrepStart? |
| 02:31.46 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 02:31.56 | ProzaicMuze | @Lily - Porzaic is my brother. He deserve all bad things in the universe. . . . like AIDS |
| 02:32.05 | ProzaicMuze | I never said I don't use it rofl |
| 02:32.11 | Vulfe | WTF |
| 02:32.12 | Vulfe | lies |
| 02:32.16 | Vulfe | You told me not to use it |
| 02:32.19 | Vulfe | X.x |
| 02:32.23 | ProzaicMuze | Because I was assuming you had no cast time |
| 02:32.26 | ProzaicMuze | Then I asked the questions |
| 02:32.32 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 02:32.34 | ProzaicMuze | and you said brb and fixed it beforeI could finish asking questions lol |
| 02:32.34 | Vulfe | whatever |
| 02:32.38 | Vulfe | Fine |
| 02:32.38 | Vulfe | Lol |
| 02:32.39 | Vulfe | :D |
| 02:32.45 | HR_ | i can use Height Of Point to get terrain height but im assuming thats from the ground height map... im trying to think of a way to get the smoothed out air height map values |
| 02:32.45 | ProzaicMuze | "[19:28] <ProzaicMuze> so is it instant cast or do you have those phase durations?" |
| 02:32.52 | ProzaicMuze | If it was instant cast I was going to change how you used it |
| 02:32.52 | Vulfe | Do you have a tutorial on host subjects? |
| 02:33.00 | ProzaicMuze | if you had phase durations then I was going to tell you to use Target lol |
| 02:33.07 | ProzaicMuze | Not really |
| 02:33.14 | ProzaicMuze | But they are spread throughout my tutorial |
| 02:33.17 | Vulfe | What are the ones that are normally used? |
| 02:33.18 | HR_ | maybe i should just sample the map and smooth them out myself... but idk if i could get the same results as them |
| 02:33.24 | Vulfe | What does _Unit actually mean? |
| 02:33.25 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 02:33.27 | ProzaicMuze | You could toss it in my poll though as an option |
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| 02:33.31 | spor | hi |
| 02:33.32 | ProzaicMuze | It means any unit with that _Unit Alias |
| 02:33.34 | ProzaicMuze | go to actors |
| 02:33.37 | ProzaicMuze | look at the top fields |
| 02:33.39 | ProzaicMuze | Alias is one of them |
| 02:33.41 | spor | i need some help with bridges. |
| 02:33.48 | ProzaicMuze | Aliases are ways of creating unit groups |
| 02:33.59 | ProzaicMuze | That way the actor willy only attach itself to units in that group (Alias) |
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| 02:34.03 | ProzaicMuze | You can make new aliases as well |
| 02:34.03 | SpoR-CharlieM | Do i need land beneath a bridge |
| 02:34.04 | SpoR-CharlieM | for it to be pathable? |
| 02:34.08 | Vail|Vail | ahem ok yes |
| 02:34.11 | Vulfe | Ahh |
| 02:34.16 | Vulfe | That's cool |
| 02:34.21 | ProzaicMuze | Indeed :) |
| 02:34.27 | Vulfe | I get it |
| 02:34.32 | Vulfe | it's so that you can host on any kind of actor |
| 02:34.33 | Vulfe | that's nice |
| 02:34.33 | Vulfe | :D |
| 02:34.42 | ProzaicMuze | Sorta lol |
| 02:34.52 | Vulfe | Why doesn't it imply all subjects are okay |
| 02:34.56 | Vulfe | if you don't put anything there |
| 02:34.56 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 02:34.56 | ProzaicMuze | It's for when you watn something to attach to range of units, rather than a specific unit |
| 02:35.03 | Vulfe | ya |
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| 02:35.14 | ProzaicMuze | Because no subject means "don't attach to anything" |
| 02:35.23 | Vulfe | i suppose |
| 02:35.27 | Vulfe | Huh |
| 02:35.29 | Vulfe | cool tho |
| 02:35.31 | Vulfe | So |
| 02:35.31 | Mittsies | How can I use triggers to modify a value for an effect? (i.e. make psistorm deal a specific amount of damage) |
| 02:35.32 | Vulfe | _Host |
| 02:35.33 | SpoR-CharlieM | anyone know about bridges can help me?? |
| 02:35.33 | Vulfe | what's that? |
| 02:35.38 | ProzaicMuze | That would be like: |
| 02:35.39 | Vail|Vail | you have to make a missile unit from scract or atleast duplicate and use it because for some reason the missile unit determines which attack actor is being used .. |
| 02:35.41 | Vulfe | Does _Host just attach to something that's already hosted? |
| 02:35.50 | ProzaicMuze | "Don't shoot at anything" and the missile shoots at everythign on the map |
| 02:35.56 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:35.57 | Vulfe | mmk |
| 02:36.00 | Vulfe | makes sense I guess |
| 02:36.02 | ProzaicMuze | _Host? |
| 02:36.06 | ProzaicMuze | That's just another alias |
| 02:36.07 | Vulfe | I thought onetwo used that |
| 02:36.10 | Vulfe | whatever |
| 02:36.11 | Vulfe | well |
| 02:36.16 | ProzaicMuze | _[Anything] |
| 02:36.17 | Vulfe | is the alias native on any actor? |
| 02:36.34 | ProzaicMuze | _Vagina is an alias you can make |
| 02:36.38 | Vulfe | Ah |
| 02:36.40 | ProzaicMuze | Yes |
| 02:36.46 | ProzaicMuze | Look at any actor |
| 02:36.52 | ProzaicMuze | Blizz has a set of defautl aliases they put on things |
| 02:37.07 | ProzaicMuze | Anything that shows up in the alias list when you select a subject is an existing alias somehwere in the data |
| 02:37.16 | ProzaicMuze | So if you made a custom unit and gave it the _Vagina alias |
| 02:37.19 | ProzaicMuze | That would now show up on you rlist |
| 02:37.27 | ProzaicMuze | ::Host would target the host |
| 02:37.27 | Vulfe | What's the rlist? |
| 02:37.38 | Vulfe | oh |
| 02:37.38 | ProzaicMuze | your list* |
| 02:37.39 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:37.40 | Vulfe | my list |
| 02:37.41 | Vulfe | XD |
| 02:37.52 | Vulfe | So |
| 02:37.56 | ProzaicMuze | ::Creator, ::Host, ::Supporter |
| 02:38.01 | ProzaicMuze | Those are specific things |
| 02:38.05 | Vulfe | does _Host make something that's already hosting the acceptable target? |
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| 02:38.17 | Vulfe | in other words, is _Host automatically applied to a host of something |
| 02:38.24 | ProzaicMuze | _Unit, _Building, _Godzilla are groups |
| 02:38.24 | Vulfe | or is it just characters |
| 02:38.27 | ProzaicMuze | No |
| 02:38.30 | ProzaicMuze | _Host wouldn't apply to anything |
| 02:38.36 | Vulfe | mmk |
| 02:38.40 | Vulfe | so it doesn't really exist |
| 02:38.41 | Vulfe | then |
| 02:38.52 | Vulfe | basically |
| 02:38.53 | ProzaicMuze | It might |
| 02:38.54 | Mittsies | So does anyone know how to modify game data such as how much damage an effect applies via triggers? |
| 02:39.04 | ProzaicMuze | Don't think of aliases as anything other than labels |
| 02:39.05 | Vail|Vail | i am not sure how to accurately describe what i found out. |
| 02:39.07 | HR_ | turns out theres TWO height at point funcs, one is hight OF point, and the other lets you choose ground or air WorldHeight(c_heightMapAir, Point()); |
| 02:39.07 | Vulfe | Aliases are only referenced when they already exist on specific actors |
| 02:39.09 | ProzaicMuze | They don't tell the actor to do anything |
| 02:39.10 | Vulfe | I know, Prozaic |
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| 02:39.14 | Vulfe | I just mean already extant |
| 02:39.22 | ProzaicMuze | If you want it to attach to the host of something |
| 02:39.25 | Vulfe | So labels are only pre-runtime then |
| 02:39.25 | ProzaicMuze | you'd use ::Host |
| 02:39.27 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 02:39.30 | Vulfe | I understand now |
| 02:39.39 | ProzaicMuze | But :: uses the actor it's on |
| 02:39.44 | ProzaicMuze | So if your actor has ::Host as it's Host |
| 02:39.46 | ProzaicMuze | It wouldnt' work |
| 02:39.49 | Vulfe | So the : :Host thing is a preset? |
| 02:39.53 | ProzaicMuze | since it would try to attach to its own host |
| 02:40.05 | Vulfe | mmk |
| 02:40.07 | ProzaicMuze | ::[Anything] is like a function |
| 02:40.11 | Vulfe | ah |
| 02:40.19 | Vulfe | what's the input |
| 02:40.20 | ProzaicMuze | If you wanted to the actor to attach to what made it |
| 02:40.21 | ProzaicMuze | ::Creater |
| 02:40.24 | ProzaicMuze | ::Creator* |
| 02:40.32 | ProzaicMuze | If you wanted to make the supporter its host |
| 02:40.34 | ProzaicMuze | ::Host |
| 02:40.38 | ProzaicMuze | Then you could use the event: |
| 02:40.44 | ProzaicMuze | Supporter Destruction > Destroy |
| 02:40.51 | Vulfe | that's cool |
| 02:40.55 | ProzaicMuze | :) |
| 02:41.05 | ProzaicMuze | Check out Panic/Berserk tutorial |
| 02:41.09 | Vulfe | Are there any other prefixes like that in the actor world? |
| 02:41.11 | ProzaicMuze | The berserk ability uses ::Host |
| 02:41.20 | ProzaicMuze | scopes |
| 02:41.27 | ProzaicMuze | However those aren't quite as clear |
| 02:41.34 | ProzaicMuze | I'm still working out what all of those mean lol |
| 02:41.39 | Vulfe | scopes are related to the event that triggers the actor thing, right? |
| 02:41.41 | SpoR-CharlieM | yo someone stole my name |
| 02:41.49 | SpoR-CharlieM | on sc2 mapster |
| 02:41.50 | ProzaicMuze | Kinda |
| 02:41.51 | SpoR-CharlieM | spor |
| 02:41.56 | ProzaicMuze | Scopes are situation from what I can tell |
| 02:42.07 | Vulfe | that makes sense I guess |
| 02:42.10 | SpoR-CharlieM | can someone help me with a small detail |
| 02:42.11 | ProzaicMuze | Like you could make it an event scope or an actor scope |
| 02:42.17 | ProzaicMuze | But i wouldnt' be able to tell you what the result would be |
| 02:42.20 | SpoR-CharlieM | im trying to place bridges on my map. |
| 02:42.29 | ProzaicMuze | Mainly because blizz uses it in random ways and often without a "standard" use |
| 02:42.29 | SpoR-CharlieM | and i need some information concerning them |
| 02:42.42 | ProzaicMuze | look up bridges on the site |
| 02:42.50 | ProzaicMuze | someone has made a pathable bridge with underpathing |
| 02:43.07 | ProzaicMuze | it was news'd about amonth ago |
| 02:43.31 | Vulfe | yarr |
| 02:43.39 | Vulfe | that's cool |
| 02:43.40 | ProzaicMuze | @Vulfe - perhaps the main reason to use :: is for makign actors tell other actors (like units) what to do |
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| 02:43.41 | Vulfe | so |
| 02:43.42 | ProzaicMuze | Without triggers |
| 02:43.55 | SpoR-CharlieM | yea im not finding what im trying to find on the site |
| 02:43.58 | SpoR-CharlieM | aboout bridges |
| 02:43.58 | ProzaicMuze | The funny thing is, I dont' think blizzard knows this |
| 02:44.00 | Vulfe | So, Prozaic |
| 02:44.02 | Vulfe | Is hosting mutual?> |
| 02:44.08 | Vulfe | or is it a property of the host |
| 02:44.18 | ProzaicMuze | It's one way |
| 02:44.25 | Vulfe | which way? |
| 02:44.33 | ProzaicMuze | The host is the base actor, the attached actor is just an attached actor. |
| 02:44.40 | Vulfe | well yeah |
| 02:44.46 | Vulfe | but do you know which is actually hosted? |
| 02:44.47 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:44.59 | Vulfe | in other words, does the host carry the hosted, or does the hosted follow the host |
| 02:45.01 | ProzaicMuze | The attached actor is hosted by the base actor |
| 02:45.10 | ProzaicMuze | It follows the host |
| 02:45.12 | Lilianna | the Base actor should be the Host, everything else is hosted by it |
| 02:45.15 | Vulfe | mmk |
| 02:45.21 | Vulfe | So then it makes sense with the :: thing |
| 02:45.33 | ProzaicMuze | The Host is entirely indepenedent of the attached actor unless you give it events to make it react to its attachment |
| 02:45.40 | Vulfe | okay |
| 02:45.42 | Vulfe | I understand |
| 02:45.43 | Vulfe | well |
| 02:45.49 | Vulfe | What I find interesting is efficiency |
| 02:45.50 | SpoR-CharlieM | basically what I am trying to do is remake luna from bw, i'm trying to place bridges. But units look wierd when they travel on them. Also, do I need to have ground below them? Or can I place them from cliff to cliff like it was in bw? |
| 02:46.02 | Vulfe | do you know if the Host knows that it's a Host? |
| 02:46.04 | currydevil | Anyone know how to make a requirement for an ability to only be available with a certain item equipped? |
| 02:46.07 | Vulfe | or does it have to check when the event is run |
| 02:46.25 | Vulfe | idk if there's even any way to find out |
| 02:46.25 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:46.27 | ProzaicMuze | Well, if you use the Hosted Attachments field |
| 02:46.29 | ProzaicMuze | it knows |
| 02:46.31 | ProzaicMuze | if you don't, then it doesn't know |
| 02:46.33 | Vulfe | ah |
| 02:46.40 | Vulfe | does it check, or is it just clueless |
| 02:46.51 | currydevil | bridges are pita's |
| 02:46.52 | ProzaicMuze | Hosted Attachments is done on the host's side and creates attachments on it |
| 02:47.04 | ProzaicMuze | The Host Field is done on the attachments side and finds itself a host |
| 02:47.05 | Vulfe | so then attachment can go either way |
| 02:47.09 | ProzaicMuze | sorta |
| 02:47.19 | Vulfe | does one necessarily create the other? |
| 02:47.19 | ProzaicMuze | With Hosted Attachments, you still have to do some extra work before it functions |
| 02:47.31 | ProzaicMuze | And it is really only used in sending signals |
| 02:47.34 | ProzaicMuze | Like with the Uberlisk |
| 02:47.47 | ProzaicMuze | In my uberlisk tutorial you make hosted attachments for the spine crawlers |
| 02:47.47 | Vulfe | yeah I read that tutorial |
| 02:47.55 | ProzaicMuze | I believe I mention that without it the signals aren't sent properly |
| 02:48.11 | currydevil | Anyone know how to make a requirement for an ability to only be available with a certain item equipped? |
| 02:48.21 | Vulfe | currydevil: easy |
| 02:48.25 | RodOfNOD | All hail the king of DATA! |
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| 02:48.28 | Darkarbiter_ | Hey |
| 02:48.35 | ProzaicMuze | basks in the glory |
| 02:48.39 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 02:48.39 | rooj | oh hail to the thief oh hail to the thief |
| 02:48.39 | Vulfe | give a behavior to the item, currydevil, that just says that the item is equipped basically |
| 02:48.42 | Darkarbiter_ | who's that? |
| 02:48.51 | SpoR-CharlieM | anyone know how to solve the issue of natural geysers when they are placed horizontally where the workers path all retardedly? |
| 02:48.53 | RodOfNOD | ProzaicMuze of course u silly peon |
| 02:48.54 | Vulfe | then make a requirement that checks for that behavior's presense |
| 02:48.57 | currydevil | vulfe: ok |
| 02:48.57 | Vulfe | presence* |
| 02:49.15 | RodOfNOD | SpoR-CharlieM dont place them horizontally? |
| 02:49.18 | currydevil | vulfe: what about the requirement? I haven't figured out to set that part up. |
| 02:49.22 | Vulfe | Well |
| 02:49.24 | Vulfe | there's a node |
| 02:49.29 | Vulfe | for count behavior completed |
| 02:49.30 | Vulfe | use that |
| 02:49.33 | currydevil | yeah the nodes confuse the crap out of me xD |
| 02:49.40 | currydevil | ok |
| 02:49.42 | Darkarbiter_ | Have any of you guys played the IRL version of werewolf/mafia? |
| 02:49.42 | Vulfe | idk what all of the stuff means |
| 02:49.43 | currydevil | i'll try it out |
| 02:49.45 | Vulfe | but I think completed works |
| 02:49.46 | Vulfe | :P |
| 02:50.13 | Darkarbiter_ | I'm working on a sc2 version based on the IRL version |
| 02:50.15 | Darkarbiter_ | so basically text only |
| 02:50.16 | ProzaicMuze | afk for a bit again |
| 02:50.18 | ProzaicMuze | back to work |
| 02:50.31 | Darkarbiter_ | reckon that'll go well? |
| 02:50.32 | rooj | lets make an IRL based on SC2 |
| 02:50.55 | RodOfNOD | IRL? |
| 02:51.04 | Darkarbiter_ | in real life |
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| 02:51.12 | Darkarbiter_ | basically |
| 02:51.14 | RodOfNOD | what is taht |
| 02:51.15 | Darkarbiter_ | everyone is a peasant |
| 02:51.21 | Darkarbiter_ | 1/2 people are werewolves |
| 02:51.28 | Darkarbiter_ | every night werewolves kill people |
| 02:51.32 | SpoR-CharlieM | god damnit |
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| 02:51.37 | Darkarbiter_ | every night people lynch one person to try to kill werewolves |
| 02:51.37 | SpoR-CharlieM | how do i unpublish a map? |
| 02:51.41 | Darkarbiter_ | werewolves try and not look sneaky |
| 02:51.45 | rooj | you cant |
| 02:51.47 | Darkarbiter_ | there's lots of auxillary characters |
| 02:51.47 | rooj | ITS THERE FOREVER |
| 02:51.51 | RodOfNOD | lol no true |
| 02:51.57 | Lynch | *whack darkarbiter_* |
| 02:51.57 | RodOfNOD | just remove it |
| 02:52.02 | Darkarbiter_ | LOL |
| 02:52.17 | Darkarbiter | lynch really hates me talking about this map |
| 02:52.21 | currydevil | vulfe: do I need to make an effect too? not sure what i'm suppose to make the behavior do. |
| 02:52.22 | Darkarbiter | would you guys play it or? |
| 02:52.27 | Darkarbiter | you guys seem to hate discussing map ideas :( |
| 02:52.45 | Vulfe | Currydevil: The behavior only exists for checking purposes: it doesn't really do anything except exist at the right time |
| 02:52.48 | RodOfNOD | i dont get what u mean by text only |
| 02:52.58 | Darkarbiter | Well basically |
| 02:53.04 | Darkarbiter | there'll only be dialog boxes |
| 02:53.07 | Darkarbiter | and chatting |
| 02:53.08 | rooj | i made my first ability tonight |
| 02:53.09 | RodOfNOD | thats the part that interetesd me |
| 02:53.11 | Darkarbiter | like debates basically |
| 02:53.11 | rooj | i am proud |
| 02:53.14 | Vulfe | claps for rooj |
| 02:53.15 | currydevil | vulfe: so i'm just making an empty behavior ? |
| 02:53.17 | rooj | yay |
| 02:53.21 | rooj | bows |
| 02:53.21 | Vulfe | yep, currydevil |
| 02:53.24 | currydevil | ok |
| 02:53.25 | Vulfe | get used to making dummy stuff |
| 02:53.27 | Vulfe | it's really useful |
| 02:53.27 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:53.36 | Vulfe | make sure you make it invisible |
| 02:53.40 | currydevil | well i wasn't sure if i needed an effect to go along with it XD |
| 02:53.44 | Vulfe | just call it like "[Item] equipped |
| 02:53.44 | currydevil | and "buff" type? |
| 02:53.45 | Vulfe | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:53.47 | Vulfe | or whatever |
| 02:53.48 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 02:53.49 | Vulfe | a buff |
| 02:53.51 | currydevil | ok |
| 02:54.02 | Cobellanez | Where do I modify starting resources? |
| 02:54.16 | rooj | can you submit a map for the contest if you worked on it as a team? |
| 02:54.26 | RodOfNOD | i think in the races corbellanez |
| 02:54.43 | Darkarbiter | don't let anyone know it's a team's job? |
| 02:54.49 | Darkarbiter | then share money AFTER they give it to you? |
| 02:54.52 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 02:54.58 | RodOfNOD | yes im sure that might work :> |
| 02:55.01 | rooj | well i just meant if it was against the rules or not |
| 02:55.33 | Darkarbiter | well they did say if you've shared your map before the contest |
| 02:55.39 | Darkarbiter | and sharing between team members probably counts :P |
| 02:55.54 | RodOfNOD | if u feel like a mellow song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6nURYc5gsc |
| 02:56.02 | rooj | i thought it said if you made it public |
| 02:56.10 | Darkarbiter | possibly |
| 02:56.11 | rooj | o well |
| 02:56.16 | rooj | i'll just submit it |
| 02:56.18 | rooj | what are they gonna do |
| 02:56.22 | rooj | TAKE MY $5000 AWAY? |
| 02:56.27 | Darkarbiter | no |
| 02:56.30 | ProzaicMuze | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248107291 |
| 02:56.30 | Darkarbiter | take your BABY AWAY |
| 02:56.35 | Darkarbiter | like a dingo |
| 02:56.40 | rooj | i'm gay i dont have babies |
| 02:56.43 | ProzaicMuze | I'm very tempted to go post a mile long essay about all the things Blizz needs to correct in their editor Xp |
| 02:56.59 | Darkarbiter | well it took your adopted baby away |
| 02:57.02 | rooj | D: |
| 02:57.09 | rooj | by the way |
| 02:57.15 | rooj | does that guy that gave partycraft a bad review ever come in here |
| 02:57.17 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:57.30 | Lilianna | A detailed description and use of every field in the Data Editor would be helpful |
| 02:57.32 | Lilianna | and Huge! |
| 02:57.34 | Lilianna | but helpful |
| 02:57.38 | Vulfe | partycraft deserved that review |
| 02:57.44 | rooj | why |
| 02:57.49 | Lilianna | its okay once |
| 02:57.56 | Lilianna | I wouldnt play partycraft ever again personally |
| 02:58.10 | AsaPhelps | i haven't seen many maps worth playing more than once |
| 02:58.15 | Lilianna | good maps make you want to play againa nd try something different |
| 02:58.28 | Darkarbiter | what was partycraft like? |
| 02:58.37 | rooj | cool as heck |
| 02:58.50 | Lilianna | Its like a very low level version of Uther Party from WC3 |
| 02:59.08 | rooj | when did uther party come out |
| 02:59.21 | rooj | i never played it |
| 02:59.36 | Lilianna | no idea, its been in WC3 for years though |
| 02:59.40 | Darkarbiter | What I want to know is |
| 02:59.45 | Darkarbiter | who's smart idea was it |
| 02:59.48 | Darkarbiter | that I can't mute players |
| 02:59.54 | Darkarbiter | but I can give them a messege to stfu |
| 02:59.59 | Darkarbiter | and if they do talk then they get booted |
| 03:00.38 | AsaPhelps | i'm waiting for a good map with laser tanks in it |
| 03:00.38 | AsaPhelps | thats something I'd play all day |
| 03:00.38 | rooj | lol |
| 03:00.38 | Darkarbiter | battle tanks for sc2 is coming out |
| 03:00.39 | Darkarbiter | in 34543534 years |
| 03:00.47 | Lilianna | I wanted to make a Battle Bots map in WC3, maybe I can put that on the list for SC2 |
| 03:00.48 | Darkarbiter | if I add laser tanks to galaxy lords will you play it? |
| 03:02.24 | Vulfe | my ability is so cool now |
| 03:02.25 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 03:02.34 | Vulfe | It makes a targeting UI on the target's head |
| 03:02.36 | Vulfe | then |
| 03:02.36 | Vulfe | boom! |
| 03:02.37 | Darkarbiter | does it make you horny? |
| 03:02.38 | Vulfe | headshot |
| 03:02.42 | Vulfe | not exactly horny |
| 03:02.42 | Vulfe | no |
| 03:02.51 | Darkarbiter | well you can't love it that much then |
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| 03:05.36 | currydevil | vulfe: the requirement isn't working properly. :( |
| 03:05.48 | Vulfe | What's the requirement do? |
| 03:05.49 | currydevil | even without my item equipped, the ability works. |
| 03:06.00 | Vulfe | Tell me what you put on the node |
| 03:06.02 | currydevil | it's supposed to stop the ability from working, or not show the button at all. |
| 03:06.08 | HeyRevolver | lol curry |
| 03:06.10 | HeyRevolver | you da man |
| 03:06.14 | Vulfe | waht did you do specifically x.x |
| 03:06.19 | currydevil | told ya i was going to fiure it out =P |
| 03:06.22 | currydevil | sec |
| 03:06.56 | currydevil | Show > count behavior "my behavior" completed |
| 03:07.02 | currydevil | thought it would hide the button otherwise |
| 03:07.03 | Cobellanez | When I put down my new structure (which is only allowed to be built on Mineral Fields) it seem kind of of center. Why? |
| 03:07.11 | Cobellanez | seems* |
| 03:08.07 | Vulfe | are you comparing it to anything? |
| 03:08.09 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 03:08.18 | currydevil | no? |
| 03:08.20 | currydevil | should I be? |
| 03:08.24 | Vulfe | might have to do compare count behavior completed versus constant |
| 03:08.28 | Vulfe | greater than or equal to |
| 03:08.33 | currydevil | in show or use? |
| 03:08.38 | Vulfe | well |
| 03:08.41 | Cobellanez | of off* |
| 03:08.47 | Vulfe | do you want it to just grey out when unavailable? |
| 03:08.49 | Vulfe | or disappear |
| 03:09.22 | currydevil | well, disappear actually, was kind of thinking about multiple abilites in one card slot but each one only visible with the right weapon equipped. |
| 03:10.00 | RodOfNOD | great cover of a classic - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-ql9C_itQw&feature=related |
| 03:11.12 | Suterusu | currey use requirements maybe |
| 03:11.21 | Suterusu | you can associate a requirement with a button |
| 03:11.42 | Darkarbiter | who wants to troubleshoot a basic problem on my map? |
| 03:11.56 | ProzaicMuze | shoots troubles at Dark's map |
| 03:12.01 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:12.31 | RodOfNOD | deflects ProzaicMuze's trouble but the reflection hits me back in the head --- egad |
| 03:13.04 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmE_l_dN9UM - one of the best songs i have seen performed live |
| 03:13.09 | currydevil | I am trying to use a requirement Suterusu. The problem is making the requirement work properly. |
| 03:14.17 | Darkarbiter | meh I give up |
| 03:14.22 | Darkarbiter | I'll work without that feature :( |
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| 03:17.26 | Qumanhawk | Hi i have a question, Im making a debuff ability that is a simple damage over time. How do I get the debuff to have a visual effect while its on the target? |
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| 03:20.38 | Darkarbiter | Any tutorials on how to do a vote dialog box? |
| 03:20.50 | Darkarbiter | or do you guys reckon the lynching should be chat command based? |
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| 03:22.08 | ProzaicMuze | Gah. . . |
| 03:22.13 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/8926-data-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty/#p12 |
| 03:22.30 | ProzaicMuze | They be wanting me to explain even further :( |
| 03:22.34 | ProzaicMuze | That's mo work! |
| 03:22.37 | ProzaicMuze | I hateses work! |
| 03:22.39 | currydevil2 | there's a voting system in Assests |
| 03:22.58 | RodOfNOD | lol ProzaicMuze |
| 03:23.15 | RodOfNOD | best maiden song- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Snehl2bAk |
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| 03:23.49 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 03:23.55 | Lilianna | When did I close this, Woops! |
| 03:23.58 | RodOfNOD | hi Lilianna |
| 03:24.04 | Lilianna | Hi |
| 03:24.04 | Darkarbiter | Is ther a way |
| 03:24.09 | Darkarbiter | to check the highest value of an array? |
| 03:24.17 | Darkarbiter | like check what slot it's in? |
| 03:24.33 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 03:24.37 | RodOfNOD | just keep it in a damn global |
| 03:24.41 | RodOfNOD | why cant people get that |
| 03:25.08 | Darkarbiter | any easy ways to check which variable is biggest of a group? |
| 03:25.20 | RodOfNOD | make a loop? |
| 03:25.23 | Lilianna | Linear Search |
| 03:25.27 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 03:25.35 | Darkarbiter | ehh I'll just do it |
| 03:25.37 | Lilianna | Unless You sort your Array |
| 03:25.43 | Lilianna | >.> |
| 03:25.44 | Lilianna | <.< |
| 03:25.52 | RodOfNOD | or u keep the biggest in a seperate variable |
| 03:25.53 | RodOfNOD | :P |
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| 03:26.05 | Darkarbiter | you can sort your array? |
| 03:26.07 | Darkarbiter | how does that work? |
| 03:26.10 | RodOfNOD | sure |
| 03:26.13 | RodOfNOD | make a sort routine |
| 03:26.18 | RodOfNOD | welcome to coding 101 |
| 03:26.19 | Lilianna | Same way you sort any other array in programming |
| 03:26.23 | Darkarbiter | ok, I'll do it the stupid way |
| 03:26.31 | Darkarbiter | do I look like a programmer to you? |
| 03:26.43 | Lilianna | You look like a Darkarbiter |
| 03:26.50 | Lilianna | So, you could be or could not |
| 03:27.10 | Darkarbiter | I know |
| 03:27.12 | Darkarbiter | I'm shifty |
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| 03:27.23 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 03:27.33 | Darkarbiter | How do I make it so |
| 03:27.36 | Darkarbiter | that the map is fully dark |
| 03:27.39 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EL67mjv1nM&feature=related - hard and evil :> |
| 03:27.39 | Darkarbiter | and you can't see anything |
| 03:27.42 | Darkarbiter | (like debates) |
| 03:27.42 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 03:28.09 | RodOfNOD | the bot has given Sixen more power than he can handle.... all must run away! |
| 03:28.38 | Darkarbiter | where's rodrigo when I need him |
| 03:28.40 | Darkarbiter | ~seen rodrigo |
| 03:28.42 | purl | rodrigo <cf06e61b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.6.230.27> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 15h 54m 38s ago, saying: 'NEW THOUGHT OF THE WEEK: "You should smile when your picture is taken" suggested by ShadowTiger'. |
| 03:28.55 | Darkarbiter | ~seen rodrigo_ |
| 03:28.56 | purl | rodrigo_ <cf06e61b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.6.230.27> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 15d 5h 25m 46s ago, saying: 'can I use the world "masturbation" in my youtube videos?'. |
| 03:28.56 | RodOfNOD | this guy made a comment on one of the youtube videos with dio that was hilarious - The Yoda of Rock! |
| 03:29.01 | onetwo | im here |
| 03:29.15 | RodOfNOD | wacks onetwo with a big ole 2x4 |
| 03:29.28 | Darkarbiter | who's onetwo? |
| 03:29.37 | RodOfNOD | God of cinematics |
| 03:29.38 | onetwo | the best |
| 03:29.41 | onetwo | etc |
| 03:29.43 | Darkarbiter | Ok well |
| 03:29.45 | Darkarbiter | I'd like to know |
| 03:29.50 | Darkarbiter | how to make the world permanently black |
| 03:29.50 | Lilianna | onetwo is twoone, but ont onethree |
| 03:29.54 | RodOfNOD | we have a multi god channel dont u know |
| 03:29.54 | Lilianna | not* |
| 03:29.54 | Sixen | lol rod |
| 03:29.57 | onetwo | im good at things and better at arts and crafts than prozaicmuze |
| 03:30.03 | Sixen | hai unodos |
| 03:30.16 | RodOfNOD | ON No sixen has seen old roddy ---- i must run before all is doomed |
| 03:30.23 | Darkarbiter | ._. |
| 03:30.24 | onetwo | link pic |
| 03:30.24 | RodOfNOD | OH* |
| 03:30.36 | onetwo | darkarbiter |
| 03:30.38 | onetwo | what do you mean |
| 03:30.39 | onetwo | by world |
| 03:30.54 | RodOfNOD | arts and crafts makes me laugh |
| 03:30.54 | Lilianna | hai einszwei |
| 03:30.56 | Darkarbiter | well, just make it so that the screen's black |
| 03:30.56 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:30.58 | Darkarbiter | apart from chat |
| 03:30.59 | Sixen | :P |
| 03:31.00 | Darkarbiter | dialog boxes |
| 03:31.00 | Darkarbiter | etc |
| 03:31.05 | Suterusu | how can I offset units created by the train unit ability from their training structure |
| 03:31.11 | RodOfNOD | envisions onetwo widdling his tools |
| 03:31.20 | RodOfNOD | im pretty pro at dialogs |
| 03:31.24 | Lilianna | Dont you widdle wood with tools? |
| 03:31.25 | RodOfNOD | why dont u just ask |
| 03:31.27 | Lilianna | not widdle tools. :x |
| 03:31.30 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 03:31.30 | ProzaicMuze | lies |
| 03:31.31 | onetwo | Suterusu if you use triggers you can detect when the train finishes and then unit - move unit instantly |
| 03:31.39 | ProzaicMuze | You're not better with Photoshop than me |
| 03:31.40 | Suterusu | i hate triggers |
| 03:31.44 | ProzaicMuze | I's a professional! |
| 03:31.44 | RodOfNOD | he is a a pro he widdles his tools to make other tools taht can widdle |
| 03:31.46 | Suterusu | looking for a data editor offset |
| 03:31.49 | onetwo | mona lisa |
| 03:31.52 | onetwo | = onetwo made it |
| 03:31.59 | ProzaicMuze | mona lisa |
| 03:32.02 | ProzaicMuze | = sucky painting |
| 03:32.06 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 03:32.11 | RodOfNOD | man this song rocks |
| 03:32.19 | onetwo | Darkarbiter |
| 03:32.21 | onetwo | what does |
| 03:32.24 | onetwo | cinematic - fade out |
| 03:32.25 | onetwo | do |
| 03:32.28 | onetwo | does it hide chat too? |
| 03:32.34 | onetwo | i think it lets dialogs/chat show |
| 03:32.35 | Darkarbiter | I'll take a look |
| 03:32.43 | Lilianna | Suterusu, Something trained unit gets a buff behavior that applies an effect one shot to move direction x,y offset |
| 03:32.53 | onetwo | Darkarbiter you can also just go into lighting and modify your texture sets light |
| 03:32.56 | onetwo | to have no exposure |
| 03:33.04 | RodOfNOD | must crank this song to 11!!! |
| 03:33.05 | onetwo | no ambient |
| 03:33.07 | Lilianna | or maybe you can have the unit always have the buff |
| 03:33.09 | Lilianna | just dont show it |
| 03:33.13 | Lilianna | and it fires when they are trained |
| 03:33.14 | onetwo | must crank this song to 12!!! |
| 03:33.27 | Lilianna | cranks this song to 4!!!!! |
| 03:33.30 | Darkarbiter | that works, UI is still there but I think I know how to kill that |
| 03:33.49 | RodOfNOD | black sabbath- heaven and hell albulm is so damn good |
| 03:34.59 | currydevil2 | Solved that requirement thing for abilites :) i'm proud |
| 03:36.11 | Darkarbiter | it's all about |
| 03:36.12 | Darkarbiter | FSOL |
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| 03:36.45 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/8926-data-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty |
| 03:36.48 | ProzaicMuze | I need some input |
| 03:36.55 | ProzaicMuze | 38Dedo wants more explanations |
| 03:37.01 | ProzaicMuze | Read the tutorial and tell me if you agree or it's just him |
| 03:37.14 | RodOfNOD | hands ProzaicMuze a salami and says "where do you want me to put this?" :P |
| 03:37.17 | Dogmai | good morning all |
| 03:37.21 | ProzaicMuze | Since I'm unsure where to add more explanation given almost every section has info |
| 03:37.41 | Atlos | hmm any tips on getting a map popular? |
| 03:37.52 | RodOfNOD | pay me 10k us dollars |
| 03:37.52 | ProzaicMuze | If you think a part needs more info, tell me what part |
| 03:37.56 | Atlos | :O |
| 03:37.57 | Atlos | done |
| 03:37.59 | Atlos | :P |
| 03:38.18 | RodOfNOD | id say make a popular map but i didnt want to be too obvious |
| 03:38.27 | Lilianna | Woooo |
| 03:38.33 | Lilianna | I crashed SC2 through Data Editor |
| 03:38.40 | RodOfNOD | hehe been there done that |
| 03:38.51 | Atlos | well it will be popular |
| 03:38.55 | Atlos | it's just getting it out of the bottom |
| 03:39.03 | Atlos | that is hard |
| 03:39.04 | RodOfNOD | whats it called? |
| 03:39.07 | Atlos | somebody released nearly the same map 7 hours before I did |
| 03:39.12 | Atlos | and it's #1 at 9k games per hour |
| 03:39.20 | Atlos | helms deep annatar |
| 03:39.23 | Dogmai | so we only get 10mb of space to host maps right |
| 03:40.21 | onetwo | the key to popularity |
| 03:40.23 | onetwo | is use DOTA |
| 03:40.25 | onetwo | LOTR |
| 03:40.28 | onetwo | etc |
| 03:40.32 | onetwo | known names |
| 03:40.33 | onetwo | = win |
| 03:40.42 | RodOfNOD | ie make a crap map that people like |
| 03:40.47 | RodOfNOD | its simple really |
| 03:40.48 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:40.55 | onetwo | the lotr maps in war3 were garbage haha |
| 03:40.58 | onetwo | just like attack move fests |
| 03:41.05 | RodOfNOD | the worst lotr maps were the damn risk ones |
| 03:41.08 | Nash|327 | my map is doing well |
| 03:41.32 | Atlos | I originally had it LOTR - Helms deep |
| 03:41.39 | Atlos | but if you search helm |
| 03:41.41 | RodOfNOD | holy shit there are 19 pages of Custom map respondents on blizzards site |
| 03:41.41 | Atlos | nothing comes up |
| 03:41.47 | RodOfNOD | hell if im gonna read them all |
| 03:41.55 | Atlos | the search for blizzard just searches the name from left to right |
| 03:41.57 | Atlos | not parts of the title |
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| 03:42.32 | RodOfNOD | holy crap i completely forgot about this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts6YTeSEv0Y&feature=related |
| 03:42.36 | Atlos | also, if I just keep creating, starting the game, and leaving will it count as a game played per hour? |
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| 03:42.57 | RodOfNOD | nudges ProzaicMuze and says LISTEN FOOL |
| 03:43.09 | RodOfNOD | volume set to 12! |
| 03:43.13 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:43.18 | onetwo | so my current map plan |
| 03:43.24 | onetwo | is the big RPG which is still in the works |
| 03:43.29 | onetwo | Predators map when prozaic hands it back |
| 03:43.34 | onetwo | and probably a zombie coop map |
| 03:43.39 | RodOfNOD | fun |
| 03:43.41 | onetwo | AND now i feel like making a team TD |
| 03:43.45 | RodOfNOD | i need someone to help terrain my zork map |
| 03:43.45 | onetwo | ugh haha |
| 03:43.46 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 03:43.55 | Suterusu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4AC1C0X0Nk |
| 03:44.58 | RodOfNOD | that was decent till they started rapping |
| 03:45.00 | AsaPhelps | i'm making a td |
| 03:45.08 | AsaPhelps | but i'm following 12's tutorial so its going to be terrible |
| 03:45.21 | RodOfNOD | goes back to DA MOB FUCKING RULES! < excuse my obvious language |
| 03:45.30 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:45.54 | AsaPhelps | i finished your basic td tutorial |
| 03:46.07 | AsaPhelps | i'm on the "advanced" part |
| 03:47.00 | ProzaicMuze | So |
| 03:47.00 | ProzaicMuze | hey |
| 03:47.01 | ProzaicMuze | yeh know |
| 03:47.03 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/8926-data-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty/#p12 |
| 03:47.05 | ProzaicMuze | Does ? |
| 03:47.07 | ProzaicMuze | Does I? |
| 03:47.11 | ProzaicMuze | Need more expo? |
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| 03:47.45 | Atlos | can somebody tell me if they can see my map in the list? |
| 03:47.52 | Atlos | I'm pretty sure it's public |
| 03:48.04 | Atlos | but even though me and a friend just played it we don't even see it on the 1 game in the last hour list |
| 03:48.31 | onetwo | proziac its natural |
| 03:48.31 | RodOfNOD | onetwo when u make the zombie map use the mob rules for ur back ground cinematic |
| 03:48.36 | onetwo | lol k |
| 03:48.42 | onetwo | therell be people who just wont get what you show |
| 03:48.47 | RodOfNOD | and also use e5150 it is o good |
| 03:48.48 | onetwo | your tutorials are generally for more advanced people |
| 03:49.03 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDQTUfLds-E&feature=related |
| 03:49.04 | ProzaicMuze | Well yeah |
| 03:49.20 | ProzaicMuze | but for that particular tutorial |
| 03:49.27 | ProzaicMuze | it's the only one where multiple said "I's lost" |
| 03:49.31 | RodOfNOD | tell u what this weekend i might look at ur tutorial and actually learn ffrom it and ill tell u the real deal |
| 03:49.37 | RodOfNOD | ie if its good or if its kaka |
| 03:49.38 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 03:49.51 | Qumanhawk | Hi i have a question, Im making a debuff ability that is a simple damage over time. How do I get the debuff to have a visual effect while its on the target? |
| 03:49.58 | progammer | lul at this build order http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/608631664 |
| 03:49.59 | RodOfNOD | back to the mob rules at volume 14! |
| 03:50.12 | AsaPhelps | create and actor and make an actor event where when the behavior or effect is on the actor is created |
| 03:50.17 | onetwo | well i didnt read that one cause i didnt care about it |
| 03:50.21 | onetwo | but if they are struggling |
| 03:50.24 | RodOfNOD | grabs my angus young signed guitar and rocks out! |
| 03:50.26 | onetwo | provide a bottom up example |
| 03:50.28 | onetwo | at the end maybe |
| 03:50.58 | AsaPhelps | can I be your groupie Rod? |
| 03:51.07 | RodOfNOD | absolutely |
| 03:51.07 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:51.09 | onetwo | ahahahah |
| 03:51.27 | AsaPhelps | i don't know what bf is so I'm going to assume its boyfriend |
| 03:51.39 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:51.41 | onetwo | its a joke >< |
| 03:51.59 | AsaPhelps | oh i get it. |
| 03:52.20 | AsaPhelps | so anyway |
| 03:52.54 | progammer | bf = blanetary fortress ? |
| 03:54.16 | AsaPhelps | its programmer |
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| 03:55.00 | AsaPhelps | i should've made my name programmar |
| 03:55.31 | Darkarbiter | is there a way to share banks between maps? |
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| 03:55.48 | onetwo | progammer |
| 03:55.50 | progammer | grammar ? |
| 03:55.53 | onetwo | the name no one gets |
| 03:55.58 | onetwo | not even g4 |
| 03:56.46 | progammer | lol pro-grammar could be fun |
| 03:57.02 | Lilianna | programma |
| 03:57.14 | AsaPhelps | prorammer |
| 03:57.35 | progammer | >.< |
| 03:57.57 | onetwo | progammer clan |
| 03:57.58 | onetwo | should exist |
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| 04:01.22 | Xaragoth | that hit his old self out of irc |
| 04:01.23 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 04:01.37 | Darkarbiter | lol xaragoth |
| 04:01.41 | Darkarbiter | that's a funny name |
| 04:02.16 | onetwo | i like how they made the editor require |
| 04:02.17 | onetwo | a login |
| 04:02.18 | onetwo | each time now |
| 04:02.24 | onetwo | because you can digital DL for free and use the editor |
| 04:02.24 | onetwo | before |
| 04:02.26 | Xaragoth | i totally wanna smack them for it |
| 04:02.30 | Error | progammer: fix me! |
| 04:02.36 | Darkarbiter | I really fucking don't |
| 04:02.37 | Darkarbiter | it's like oh |
| 04:02.39 | Darkarbiter | net is out |
| 04:02.41 | Xaragoth | its highly annoying |
| 04:02.43 | onetwo | yeah |
| 04:02.44 | Darkarbiter | I'll use the editor |
| 04:02.49 | Darkarbiter | oh... I fucking can't |
| 04:02.49 | onetwo | i was being sarcastic |
| 04:02.54 | onetwo | it definitely needs to change |
| 04:03.00 | Darkarbiter | I know you were, but still |
| 04:03.03 | onetwo | i used to do editing when i didnt have net |
| 04:03.03 | Darkarbiter | I was being blunt lol |
| 04:03.07 | onetwo | travelling |
| 04:03.13 | Darkarbiter | I thought it was only one login per computer? |
| 04:03.18 | Darkarbiter | but no, it's one login per logon |
| 04:03.24 | Xaragoth | its one of those things were you just facepalm |
| 04:03.32 | progammer | yeah it fucks with those chinese mapmaker lol |
| 04:03.37 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:03.45 | onetwo | more maps = a good thing though |
| 04:03.50 | Xaragoth | the whole security stuff thats going on inside the industry is slowly getting on my nerves |
| 04:03.53 | onetwo | its not like gold farming |
| 04:03.58 | onetwo | same |
| 04:04.03 | onetwo | are they really not making enough money? |
| 04:04.06 | Darkarbiter | I don't mind the log on every time for bnet thing |
| 04:04.11 | Darkarbiter | as it means that people are more connected |
| 04:04.13 | progammer | and it sucks if i dont have internet for a week and cant open the god damn editor |
| 04:04.21 | Darkarbiter | but the fact that the one time my net is out |
| 04:04.26 | Darkarbiter | and I can't actually play starcraft 2 |
| 04:04.27 | Darkarbiter | pisses me off |
| 04:04.38 | Xaragoth | indeed |
| 04:04.45 | Darkarbiter | I thought it was once only! |
| 04:04.54 | Darkarbiter | long story short |
| 04:04.57 | Darkarbiter | crack is required: |
| 04:04.57 | Xaragoth | the editor shouldn't require a login |
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| 04:05.03 | Xaragoth | indeed |
| 04:05.04 | Dogmai | play wc3 =\ |
| 04:05.09 | Xaragoth | either that or a patch |
| 04:05.10 | Darkarbiter | it's fine, so long as it only needs it once |
| 04:05.21 | Darkarbiter | oh hey dogmai |
| 04:05.37 | Darkarbiter | wanna test out my map when it's done dogmai? |
| 04:05.43 | Zanam | anyone know if the sc2 map development contest specifies against private publishing for testing reasons? |
| 04:06.06 | progammer | probably not |
| 04:06.26 | progammer | its not like your tester is going to release info for the map |
| 04:06.43 | Xaragoth | they didn't specifi |
| 04:06.53 | Xaragoth | but you can't create something for multiplayer without testing |
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| 04:07.38 | Zanam | was going to say... i can test most everything, but i'm now doing game modes and variants and have no idea how to test that in the lobby without publishing :P |
| 04:07.55 | Darkarbiter | well |
| 04:07.56 | Darkarbiter | yeh |
| 04:08.02 | Darkarbiter | how is it meant to be bug free |
| 04:08.06 | Darkarbiter | if you can't test multi person features? |
| 04:08.30 | Darkarbiter | it makes me want to lynch blizzard |
| 04:09.05 | progammer | just publish it with the name browder sucks |
| 04:09.08 | progammer | or use mapcraft |
| 04:09.19 | Darkarbiter | map craft? |
| 04:09.33 | progammer | the one you launch custom map from beta |
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| 04:09.57 | Zanam | well i'll need to test anyway, i'm sure people will submitting really polished maps |
| 04:10.02 | progammer | it swap ur map to 1 of the melee maps so u can play |
| 04:10.19 | progammer | make sure all tester do the same |
| 04:10.22 | Dogmai | what you making zanam |
| 04:10.44 | Dogmai | i believe it says dont publish to stop disputes |
| 04:10.51 | Dogmai | meaning, if two people submit the same map |
| 04:10.52 | Dogmai | etc |
| 04:10.57 | Zanam | an original unit-war style map, with generated arenas. my 96x96 map could potentially hold thousands of arenas |
| 04:11.25 | Dogmai | nice |
| 04:11.28 | Darkarbiter | Can't you just |
| 04:11.31 | Zanam | simplistic art style... name's up in the air but i'm currently at ShapeWar. squares, circles, triangles, etc. |
| 04:11.31 | Darkarbiter | publish as locked |
| 04:11.35 | Darkarbiter | and make sure your name is in it? |
| 04:11.41 | Dogmai | no Darkarbiter |
| 04:11.51 | Dogmai | they said, they will only take it by the email address it was submitted by |
| 04:11.55 | Dogmai | not by anyhting inside the map |
| 04:11.57 | Dogmai | in their tos |
| 04:11.58 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 04:12.17 | Zanam | aaah, so pretty much if you publish, you have to make sure all testers are trusted and the map can't be edited |
| 04:12.20 | progammer | hm so then they really will remove released map then |
| 04:12.21 | Darkarbiter | well if you have an obviously more updated version |
| 04:12.28 | Darkarbiter | then you're the person with the unlocked version |
| 04:12.42 | Darkarbiter | just make sure it uses locked mode |
| 04:12.56 | Dogmai | locked doesnt do anything =\ |
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| 04:13.19 | Darkarbiter | doesn't it stop people from editing it? |
| 04:13.29 | Zanam | speaking of game modes and variants, anyone worked with them? read through the tutorial but still trying to understand the concepts |
| 04:13.37 | Darkarbiter | don't use game modes |
| 04:13.41 | Darkarbiter | it'll split your popularity |
| 04:13.47 | Dogmai | no |
| 04:13.56 | Darkarbiter | no @ which? |
| 04:14.06 | Dogmai | the question you asked me |
| 04:14.09 | Dogmai | you only asked me one |
| 04:14.10 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 04:14.23 | Darkarbiter | so you can edit locked maps? |
| 04:14.31 | Dogmai | yep yep |
| 04:14.42 | Zanam | so... what about game variants then darkarbiter |
| 04:14.43 | Darkarbiter | and blizzard doesn't realise this? |
| 04:14.54 | Darkarbiter | If you want to do some game mode or something |
| 04:15.02 | Darkarbiter | do it presumably the old way with variables and stuff |
| 04:15.10 | Darkarbiter | I'm not sure, whichever one of those it is that splits popularity |
| 04:15.15 | Dogmai | well it would be common sense for them to include a back door in the map protection |
| 04:15.18 | Darkarbiter | you don't want to use the inbuilt version |
| 04:15.29 | Zanam | hmm... problem is I want to do FFA and team modes |
| 04:15.31 | Darkarbiter | why dogmai? |
| 04:15.46 | Darkarbiter | Then make a player type -FFA or -Team at the start |
| 04:16.00 | Darkarbiter | and change things to do whatever depending on what they do |
| 04:16.21 | Dogmai | so they can see the inards of the map |
| 04:16.34 | Dogmai | in time the designers outside of blizzard will become better than the ones working for them |
| 04:16.41 | Dogmai | because the ones working for them are just doing that, working |
| 04:16.50 | Dogmai | the ones outside, it will become their lives |
| 04:17.03 | Zanam | hmm... alright, that makes sense. i dont want my map to be like the other ones that have a million versions on the list |
| 04:17.34 | Darkarbiter | ah good point |
| 04:17.45 | Darkarbiter | well, for now the backdoor isn't known |
| 04:17.57 | Darkarbiter | and if it's only known by a few people, they can patch it, and change it every 6 months |
| 04:18.07 | Darkarbiter | and ban the few people who try to upload edited versions of maps that aren't theirs |
| 04:18.13 | Dogmai | why? |
| 04:18.18 | Dogmai | blizzard owns the copyright on all the maps |
| 04:18.26 | Darkarbiter | no I mean |
| 04:18.26 | Dogmai | so when you edit someone elses map |
| 04:18.30 | Dogmai | it doesnt change the ownership |
| 04:18.31 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 04:18.39 | Darkarbiter | that's irrelevent |
| 04:19.01 | Dogmai | i wrote an essay last night |
| 04:19.07 | Dogmai | you should read it =\ |
| 04:19.15 | Darkarbiter | yes but my point is |
| 04:19.26 | Darkarbiter | just cos they own copyright doesn't mean they aren't gonna care about map stealers |
| 04:19.30 | Darkarbiter | if they're in few enough number anyway |
| 04:19.42 | Dogmai | well it just depends if the community kicks up enough of a stink |
| 04:19.58 | Dogmai | same thing as in government |
| 04:20.07 | Darkarbiter | yeh so every 3 months |
| 04:20.14 | Darkarbiter | someone works out how to unlock the new system |
| 04:20.21 | Darkarbiter | it becomes somewhat common over 3 weeks |
| 04:20.28 | Darkarbiter | 10 people get banned, system gets patched |
| 04:20.37 | Darkarbiter | hopefully that's how it'll work |
| 04:21.29 | SpoR-CharlieM | hey what is a good name for an sc2 team? |
| 04:21.58 | onetwo | storm of the imperial sanctumers |
| 04:22.26 | Darkarbiter | dota sucks? |
| 04:23.33 | Darkarbiter | I hate how people can't get the idea into their head of counting from zero on player numbers |
| 04:23.40 | Darkarbiter | it makes coding stuff very confusing |
| 04:24.14 | Dogmai | what |
| 04:24.21 | Dogmai | oh |
| 04:24.24 | Dogmai | cause zero is neutral |
| 04:25.20 | Darkarbiter | No |
| 04:25.24 | Darkarbiter | you can make zero a player |
| 04:25.25 | Darkarbiter | I always do |
| 04:25.35 | Darkarbiter | Player 15 must be hostile though |
| 04:25.42 | Darkarbiter | you can test out, 16 players |
| 04:25.48 | Darkarbiter | but it won't let you publish with 16 as non hostile! |
| 04:25.56 | Darkarbiter | so, total 15 players |
| 04:26.00 | Darkarbiter | but player 1, is the second player |
| 04:26.05 | Dogmai | kind of same as wc2 |
| 04:26.06 | Dogmai | wc3 |
| 04:26.09 | Darkarbiter | first person on a leaderboard is generally player 0 etc |
| 04:26.18 | Dogmai | they had 16 teams, 12 player, 4 comp |
| 04:26.23 | Dogmai | yea |
| 04:26.33 | Darkarbiter | ah ok hmm |
| 04:26.36 | Darkarbiter | most maps I saw |
| 04:26.38 | Darkarbiter | had 10 human |
| 04:26.39 | Darkarbiter | 2 comp |
| 04:26.48 | Dogmai | its possible |
| 04:26.56 | Darkarbiter | am I the only one who hasn't had lag problems with 15 player maps? |
| 04:27.00 | Darkarbiter | it's been fine as far as I've seen |
| 04:27.13 | Dogmai | for instance, the two computer teams in dota |
| 04:27.20 | Dogmai | can actually be 13 and 14 |
| 04:27.24 | Dogmai | and you can have a 6x6 dota |
| 04:27.30 | Dogmai | and still keep neutral + hostile |
| 04:27.34 | Dogmai | for creeps and shops |
| 04:27.46 | Darkarbiter | yeh |
| 04:27.51 | Darkarbiter | erm |
| 04:28.04 | Darkarbiter | ehh anyway |
| 04:28.13 | Darkarbiter | well even heroes of newearth is 5v5 |
| 04:28.15 | Darkarbiter | so they don't want that |
| 04:28.40 | Dogmai | no |
| 04:28.44 | Dogmai | its in my essay =\ |
| 04:28.48 | Dogmai | its for balance issues |
| 04:28.50 | Dogmai | having the solo lane |
| 04:28.53 | rooj | 10v10 dota |
| 04:29.01 | Dogmai | if you have 3x lanes of 2 people each |
| 04:29.03 | Dogmai | its boring |
| 04:29.06 | Dogmai | having a solo lane |
| 04:29.11 | Dogmai | allows one player to climb above the others |
| 04:29.15 | rooj | is for gay babies |
| 04:29.40 | rooj | i love those people that demand a solo lane |
| 04:29.50 | rooj | and flip out when someone goes to their lane |
| 04:30.00 | Dogmai | yeah |
| 04:30.01 | Dogmai | thats it |
| 04:30.03 | Dogmai | it creates drama |
| 04:30.06 | Dogmai | that is what dota is all about |
| 04:30.10 | rooj | word |
| 04:30.10 | Dogmai | its about selfish players |
| 04:30.12 | Dogmai | addicted to drama |
| 04:30.20 | Dogmai | i seriously wrote a 5 page essay on it =\ |
| 04:30.23 | rooj | lol |
| 04:31.14 | Darkarbiter | lol |
| 04:31.15 | Dogmai | im getting kind of worried about this 10mb limit |
| 04:31.18 | Dogmai | my map is already over 2mb |
| 04:31.23 | Dogmai | and its no where near finished |
| 04:31.31 | Darkarbiter | how are you meant to do campaigns with 10mb? |
| 04:31.38 | Dogmai | your not |
| 04:31.41 | Dogmai | its like youtube |
| 04:31.47 | Dogmai | they will probably increase it for people |
| 04:31.50 | Dogmai | probably for a fee |
| 04:31.51 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 04:31.54 | Dogmai | hopefully for free |
| 04:32.01 | Dogmai | if you show them you can do good quality stuff |
| 04:32.16 | Xaragoth | you can probably get a hosted by blizzard thingy later on |
| 04:32.17 | Nash|327 | is there any way to split up a road you've created? |
| 04:32.22 | Xaragoth | or they change it for that damn market place |
| 04:32.53 | Darkarbiter | I don't think they'll charge for a higher limit |
| 04:33.12 | Darkarbiter | they might make higher levels p2p uploaded only |
| 04:33.29 | Darkarbiter | or maybe increase it if you've had maps in the past played enough times |
| 04:33.32 | Darkarbiter | that would make sense |
| 04:33.32 | onetwo | itd be hilarious if someone put a video texture on a TD so people could watch a movie |
| 04:33.36 | onetwo | while they waited between waves |
| 04:33.41 | onetwo | like on the bottom of the map |
| 04:33.46 | Darkarbiter | Someone put rickroll on a map |
| 04:33.53 | Darkarbiter | Well |
| 04:33.57 | Xaragoth | done already |
| 04:33.59 | Darkarbiter | can you program fractals in galaxy edit? |
| 04:34.02 | Xaragoth | lets put mr t on a map |
| 04:34.17 | Darkarbiter | mr t wow add GOGO |
| 04:34.30 | Dogmai | well not really Darkarbiter |
| 04:34.42 | Dogmai | chances are the best map makers will hold on to something really great |
| 04:34.52 | Dogmai | they won't be making the shitty maps that float around and get played |
| 04:34.53 | Darkarbiter | that's my mission in life |
| 04:34.59 | Dogmai | so when it comes time for them to release their map |
| 04:35.01 | Dogmai | then what :P |
| 04:35.02 | Darkarbiter | to make fractals in galaxy edit |
| 04:35.24 | Nash|327 | ROADS D: |
| 04:35.26 | Darkarbiter | well I made a map that was quite popular briefly |
| 04:35.31 | Darkarbiter | and I know it's good |
| 04:35.33 | Darkarbiter | and will do so again |
| 04:35.36 | Darkarbiter | just needs more units and content |
| 04:36.22 | Nash|327 | nobody knows eh :/ |
| 04:37.04 | Xaragoth | you can't |
| 04:37.08 | Xaragoth | the roadtool is fucked up |
| 04:37.22 | Nash|327 | bleh |
| 04:38.00 | Dogmai | what map did you make |
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| 04:38.25 | Darkarbiter | Galaxy lords |
| 04:38.29 | Darkarbiter | it was number 6 for a while |
| 04:38.38 | Dogmai | on sea right |
| 04:38.41 | Dogmai | thats not saying much :P |
| 04:38.44 | Darkarbiter | yeh |
| 04:38.47 | Dogmai | we suck |
| 04:38.48 | Darkarbiter | so, it's still something |
| 04:38.52 | Dogmai | true that mate |
| 04:39.17 | Dogmai | it will be interesting if we had a global map server |
| 04:39.26 | Dogmai | how the popularity system would simply be imba |
| 04:39.44 | Darkarbiter | anyway |
| 04:39.47 | Darkarbiter | how do you add |
| 04:39.54 | Darkarbiter | number of players in player group as a condition? |
| 04:40.22 | Darkarbiter | oh wait |
| 04:40.25 | Darkarbiter | clicking the wrong button |
| 04:40.28 | Darkarbiter | nevermind |
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| 04:43.19 | Darkarbiter | players can be in multiple player groups right? |
| 04:44.20 | Dogmai | yes |
| 04:44.39 | Dogmai | *from wc3, havnt tested it in sc2 |
| 04:44.57 | Pinzu | hmm |
| 04:45.04 | Pinzu | if I have a ball, or something |
| 04:45.05 | Darkarbiter | well in theory they should |
| 04:45.07 | Darkarbiter | from basic setup |
| 04:45.12 | Darkarbiter | ok, this should be a lot easier than I thought then |
| 04:45.40 | Pinzu | http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg143/Chaago/aaa.png |
| 04:45.43 | Pinzu | like that |
| 04:45.54 | Pinzu | and I want the ballt o bounce when it hits the wall |
| 04:46.02 | Pinzu | how would I go about that basically? |
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| 04:48.13 | Darkarbiter | what's the quickest way to determine which of a group of variables is biggest? |
| 04:49.20 | Pinzu | WHAT TYPE`? |
| 04:49.45 | Darkarbiter | integer |
| 04:49.53 | Darkarbiter | doing voting system |
| 04:50.14 | Pinzu | if x > y |
| 04:50.23 | Darkarbiter | yeh, that's what i thought |
| 04:50.30 | Dogmai | Darkarbiter, what area if kiwiland do you come from |
| 04:50.32 | Darkarbiter | but... I dunno what I'm gonna do if something is equal |
| 04:50.36 | Darkarbiter | Australia |
| 04:50.41 | Dogmai | oh thank god |
| 04:50.48 | Darkarbiter | Melbourne |
| 04:50.49 | Dogmai | someone said they were a kiwi last night |
| 04:50.55 | Dogmai | i cant remember who |
| 04:50.56 | rooj | i saw a Bounce flag somehwere but theres no telling how it works |
| 04:51.01 | Darkarbiter | lol... |
| 04:51.08 | Darkarbiter | I wasn't on last night |
| 04:51.14 | Dogmai | alright |
| 04:51.19 | Pinzu | you could make it so it randomes if its equal? |
| 04:51.20 | Dogmai | it was one of the regular SEA peeps |
| 04:51.28 | Darkarbiter | yeh I guess |
| 04:51.34 | Darkarbiter | background is |
| 04:51.38 | Darkarbiter | gotta vote on who to lynch |
| 04:51.43 | Darkarbiter | not sure whether it should be random or both |
| 04:51.43 | Pinzu | or x >= y |
| 04:51.49 | Pinzu | meaning it its equal you do the X thing |
| 04:52.04 | Darkarbiter | I think for this it should be both |
| 04:52.08 | Darkarbiter | better to reduce randomness |
| 04:52.10 | Darkarbiter | or maybe neither actually |
| 04:52.22 | Darkarbiter | well that would imbalance voting against people on certain parts of the list |
| 04:52.35 | Darkarbiter | so I can't make it if votes are even for who to kill, player 2 gets killed instead of player 1 |
| 04:52.37 | Darkarbiter | that's silly |
| 04:53.04 | Darkarbiter | I could do a revote |
| 04:53.46 | Darkarbiter | that could get deadlocked though |
| 04:53.55 | Darkarbiter | since it's not a dialog box, it's a chat command |
| 04:54.01 | Darkarbiter | so there's no rush to vote |
| 04:54.04 | Darkarbiter | I think I'll make it no one dies |
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| 04:54.33 | Darkarbiter | now... how to work out which of 15 variables is bigger |
| 04:54.34 | Darkarbiter | AND |
| 04:54.40 | Darkarbiter | work out when there's a draw for the two biggest |
| 04:54.45 | Darkarbiter | :'( |
| 04:56.06 | Darkarbiter | actually no |
| 04:56.12 | Darkarbiter | I might redo this |
| 04:56.14 | Darkarbiter | so you can call a vote |
| 04:56.20 | Darkarbiter | and you need a simple majority to kill whoever |
| 04:57.09 | Pinzu | make it so when a person types -kill red? |
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| 04:57.17 | Pinzu | a timer starts and is displayed |
| 04:57.25 | Darkarbiter | yep |
| 04:57.29 | Pinzu | and the text anoucing it, player X has voted for lynching red |
| 04:57.39 | Pinzu | and then you turn on the counting trigger |
| 04:57.45 | Darkarbiter | don't need a text |
| 04:58.07 | Darkarbiter | actually no wait I do |
| 04:58.15 | Darkarbiter | actually no wait I don't |
| 04:58.29 | Darkarbiter | since people are neutral, or maybe enemies to each other (no one has any units so this makes no difference) |
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| 04:58.37 | Darkarbiter | the only channel is all chat |
| 04:58.43 | Darkarbiter | so any commands will have to be typed there |
| 04:58.47 | Darkarbiter | EXCEPT |
| 04:58.50 | Darkarbiter | for the werewolves... who have ally chat |
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| 04:59.04 | Darkarbiter | but... if a vote starts and no one sees where the command is |
| 04:59.16 | Darkarbiter | it's pretty obvious it's gonna be by the only person who has another chat avaliable |
| 04:59.27 | Darkarbiter | and people won't vote for it then |
| 04:59.37 | Darkarbiter | and if they don't realise that, that'll just add to the intrigue of the game |
| 04:59.43 | Darkarbiter | assuming you can't use ally chat unless you have allies ofcours.e.. |
| 04:59.45 | Darkarbiter | ofcourse |
| 04:59.56 | Dogmai | why dont you have two interger variables |
| 05:00.00 | Dogmai | one for for one for against |
| 05:00.08 | Darkarbiter | that's what I'm gonna do |
| 05:00.14 | Dogmai | if for >= against, do it |
| 05:00.25 | Darkarbiter | No, just greater than |
| 05:00.27 | Darkarbiter | not equal to |
| 05:00.38 | Darkarbiter | but yeh, that's specific to how I wanna setup the map |
| 05:00.46 | Dogmai | well |
| 05:00.54 | Dogmai | say you have 4 people |
| 05:01.00 | Dogmai | includnig the person who the vote is against |
| 05:01.20 | Error | this is quite possibly the biggest 1v1 map =P |
| 05:01.21 | Dogmai | >=, just get rid of the bastard :P |
| 05:01.33 | Darkarbiter | No but |
| 05:01.36 | Darkarbiter | there could be two votes going |
| 05:01.41 | Darkarbiter | by 2 people against the other 2 |
| 05:01.57 | Darkarbiter | the team who dies shouldn't be the one who can't type -lynch 3 fast enough |
| 05:02.11 | Darkarbiter | Anyway, with the way werewolf works |
| 05:02.29 | Darkarbiter | 1+ people are the werewolf |
| 05:02.43 | Darkarbiter | it's in their interest to kill someone every night since when no one else is left they win |
| 05:02.45 | Dogmai | why use commands like -xx |
| 05:02.49 | Dogmai | when you can use dialog buttons |
| 05:03.03 | Darkarbiter | because, I like that better in this case |
| 05:03.24 | Darkarbiter | and also, people may have a long discussion before voting |
| 05:03.30 | Darkarbiter | no need for buttons |
| 05:03.51 | Darkarbiter | and it's in the villagers interests to kill who they think is the werewolf but not arbitrarily |
| 05:04.09 | Darkarbiter | so, things being deadlocked, and no one dieing doesn't mean the game doesn't progress |
| 05:04.17 | Darkarbiter | just means that the wolf kills one person, and game proceeds |
| 05:04.40 | Darkarbiter | especially concidering who he kills probably depended on what way that person voted |
| 05:05.34 | Dogmai | oh |
| 05:05.37 | Dogmai | darkdeeds |
| 05:05.43 | Darkarbiter | yes |
| 05:05.49 | Darkarbiter | dark deeds is based on an IRL game |
| 05:05.50 | Dogmai | i love darkdeeds |
| 05:06.00 | Darkarbiter | I'm making the text version of the IRL game |
| 05:06.00 | Dogmai | makes sense |
| 05:06.13 | Dogmai | why wouldnt you have on where you can build bases |
| 05:06.14 | Darkarbiter | it's great irl, too bad you can't have body signals etc on sc2 :( |
| 05:06.14 | Dogmai | etc |
| 05:06.25 | Darkarbiter | 1. because this is faster |
| 05:06.35 | Trager|546|US | How do I make it so players don't have to go to the score screen after they lose? Do I just set it to Hide Score Screen in the End Game action? |
| 05:06.38 | Darkarbiter | 2. because this is different, and basically based entirely on social aspects |
| 05:06.59 | Darkarbiter | and 3. because I'll make both a chat/social only version and a dark deeds version |
| 05:07.15 | Dogmai | fair enough |
| 05:07.30 | Dogmai | Trager|546|US, try it, then tell us if it works |
| 05:07.31 | Dogmai | :P |
| 05:07.34 | Darkarbiter | and yeh, there's lots of fun characters you can be besides wolf/peasant |
| 05:07.49 | Dogmai | vampires ^^ |
| 05:07.50 | Darkarbiter | e.g. village idiot... you cannot use any vowels or numbers, and you must vote every time (even for yourself) |
| 05:08.06 | Trager|546|US | Dogmai: There goes my user base when it glitches up |
| 05:08.06 | Darkarbiter | seeing someone be like |
| 05:08.08 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 05:08.17 | Darkarbiter | FFS VLLG DDT |
| 05:08.22 | Dogmai | try it for single player |
| 05:08.26 | Dogmai | oh wait |
| 05:08.32 | Dogmai | that doesnt have scorescreens |
| 05:08.32 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 05:08.35 | Darkarbiter | tell me what the vampire character should do |
| 05:08.38 | Darkarbiter | and I'll add them |
| 05:08.42 | Trager|546|US | ffs |
| 05:08.42 | Dogmai | suck their blood |
| 05:08.51 | Trager|546|US | blizzard needs to add a better way to test maps |
| 05:08.52 | Darkarbiter | ... which does??? |
| 05:08.59 | Darkarbiter | makes them so they can't vote the next day? what? |
| 05:09.04 | Dogmai | has a 50% chance of turning them on |
| 05:09.09 | Dogmai | a 50% chance of making them woozy |
| 05:09.14 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 05:09.14 | Dogmai | where when they vote |
| 05:09.15 | Darkarbiter | nah, no chance |
| 05:09.17 | Dogmai | it changes their vote for them |
| 05:09.20 | Dogmai | so you dont know who |
| 05:09.25 | Darkarbiter | except for maybe random voting |
| 05:09.31 | Trager|546|US | make the vampire the worst character in the game and call it Edward |
| 05:09.38 | Dogmai | call it justin |
| 05:09.43 | Dogmai | he is worst |
| 05:09.43 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 05:10.22 | Trager|546|US | Dogmai: I'm scared to try it |
| 05:10.29 | Dogmai | just do it mate |
| 05:10.46 | Dogmai | stuff what people think |
| 05:10.55 | Dogmai | tell them your testing something out |
| 05:11.01 | Dogmai | if theyr efuse to play your map base don that |
| 05:11.04 | Dogmai | they are pretty stupid |
| 05:11.12 | Dogmai | i have two computers, this ones keyboard is a bit stuffy |
| 05:11.16 | Dogmai | soz |
| 05:11.22 | Trager|546|US | I will after I make sure my last update didn't break anything |
| 05:11.37 | Trager|546|US | I usually end up doing a few updates in quick succession |
| 05:12.21 | Trager|546|US | yup, broke it |
| 05:12.36 | Trager|546|US | crashes when you try to get into the lobby |
| 05:12.43 | Trager|546|US | blizzard needs to fix game variants |
| 05:14.32 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 05:14.51 | Trager|546|US | how dare I try to disable computer opponents |
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| 05:20.25 | Darkarbiter | I could make is so that |
| 05:20.29 | Darkarbiter | if someone is the vampire |
| 05:20.32 | Darkarbiter | that every 60 seconds |
| 05:20.44 | Darkarbiter | the game sends a messege saying *Player name* sparkles |
| 05:20.59 | Darkarbiter | and that killing him off removes the annoying messeges |
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| 05:25.22 | Trager|546|US | Dogmai: It does not |
| 05:25.29 | onetwo | will the word 'suckling' not allow my map to publish |
| 05:25.32 | onetwo | just wondering |
| 05:25.37 | Trager|546|US | I think I have to hide the Dialog box instead |
| 05:25.52 | Trager|546|US | onetwo, there's only one way to find out |
| 05:26.33 | Trager|546|US | also, make more leaderboard and dialog box tutorials |
| 05:26.35 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 05:26.40 | onetwo | kk |
| 05:26.40 | onetwo | haha |
| 05:26.45 | Dogmai | what kind of swear word is suckling |
| 05:27.26 | onetwo | 'suck' |
| 05:27.55 | azala | hmm...need 1 for a d map test (NA region) |
| 05:28.17 | Trager|546|US | I was just reading an article in wired about overzealous substring detectors |
| 05:28.46 | Trager|546|US | bunch of funny examples |
| 05:28.48 | Cryosis | mind... hurt... |
| 05:29.03 | Trager|546|US | Some guy named Barry Cockmunch couldn't make a yahoo account |
| 05:30.01 | onetwo | lol i was going to go comedy on my map |
| 05:30.02 | onetwo | but maybe not |
| 05:30.11 | onetwo | infested terran was gonna be called rosie o donnel |
| 05:30.15 | onetwo | but i think ill get banned for that |
| 05:30.20 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 05:30.47 | Trager|546|US | Make it a bit more subtle. |
| 05:30.53 | Fromethius | azala still need someone? |
| 05:30.57 | Fromethius | i should be in bed but naahhhhh |
| 05:30.59 | Trager|546|US | I suggest Gabe Newell |
| 05:31.29 | Cryosis | If for example, wanted to have amissile that flew a very specific path over a long range (like a cruise missile) |
| 05:31.38 | Cryosis | would I use a behavior to make it do so? |
| 05:31.54 | Cryosis | effect -> behavior? |
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| 05:33.07 | Trager|546|US | I'll give a shiny penny to whoever correctly guesses my trash size |
| 05:33.22 | Cryosis | how.. shiny |
| 05:33.25 | onetwo | 42.8 gigs |
| 05:33.40 | Trager|546|US | so shiny that you can see god in it |
| 05:34.01 | Trager|546|US | onetwo: close |
| 05:34.02 | rrowland | I see god in all shiny pennies |
| 05:34.02 | Cryosis | 7.5 gigs |
| 05:34.11 | Trager|546|US | not like this you dont |
| 05:34.19 | rrowland | In the reflection |
| 05:34.27 | Trager|546|US | ha. |
| 05:34.37 | Trager|546|US | :P |
| 05:35.30 | Cryosis | sigh |
| 05:35.36 | Cryosis | I really don't know what I'm doing in this editor |
| 05:35.41 | Cryosis | it's like fighting a walrus with a stick |
| 05:35.43 | Cryosis | a small stick |
| 05:35.59 | Trager|546|US | the walrus has the stick? |
| 05:36.06 | Cryosis | usually |
| 05:36.13 | Cryosis | on bad days |
| 05:36.15 | Trager|546|US | english sucks |
| 05:36.31 | onetwo | would blizz be mad if the final boss was "Bnet 2.0" |
| 05:36.32 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:36.34 | Trager|546|US | I know you mean |
| 05:36.39 | Trager|546|US | DO IT |
| 05:36.54 | Cryosis | why not just make it "Fuck you Blizzard" |
| 05:37.01 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 05:37.01 | onetwo | subtletly |
| 05:37.05 | Cryosis | and a sub- boss "Where's my LAN play bitches" |
| 05:37.59 | Cryosis | you know what's frightening? |
| 05:38.13 | Cryosis | the Odin at .2 scale |
| 05:38.28 | Cryosis | it's like a midget with an axe... scary |
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| 05:51.42 | Darkarbiter | what you mean like |
| 05:51.43 | Darkarbiter | dwarves? |
| 05:51.51 | Darkarbiter | they generally have axes |
| 05:53.41 | Darkarbiter | Goddamnit this is way more complicated than I thought |
| 05:56.04 | Zarafu | sup guys |
| 05:56.50 | Zarafu | what is complicated? |
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| 05:59.18 | Saeris | so any word on what's up with the custom games list today? |
| 05:59.26 | Saeris | it's obviously still screwed |
| 06:00.12 | Saeris | quiet in here tonight |
| 06:01.00 | Zanam | yeah, usually is this late. |
| 06:01.18 | Zanam | so i'm patiently fiddling with my leaderboard and getting headaches |
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| 06:04.28 | Pinzu | hmmmmm |
| 06:04.51 | Pinzu | guys how would one make a "ball" change directoion when 'bouncing' on walls like this |
| 06:04.58 | Pinzu | http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg143/Chaago/?action=view¤t=aaa.png |
| 06:05.26 | Pinzu | first off, would the best way to registrate it be check where the ball is every 0.1 second? |
| 06:08.18 | rooj | gonna be hard to do pinzu lol |
| 06:08.44 | rooj | gonna take some kind of geometry |
| 06:08.50 | rooj | angles |
| 06:08.55 | rooj | and stuff ;/ |
| 06:09.20 | Pinzu | ye I know |
| 06:09.34 | Pinzu | but I feel like exploring ;d |
| 06:09.42 | Pinzu | lets say |
| 06:09.43 | Zanam | anyone have a leaderboard i could look at... getting confused |
| 06:09.46 | Pinzu | each "block" |
| 06:10.03 | Pinzu | has 6 zones to each direction |
| 06:10.11 | Pinzu | if ball gets into one of these small zones |
| 06:10.31 | Pinzu | it checks what angle it should change to acording to the block |
| 06:10.53 | Pinzu | well, rooj im more asking how I would registrate the angle and when it comes close ;d |
| 06:14.48 | Error | Zanam: most leader boards are quite different depending on the purpose |
| 06:15.03 | Zanam | I can't get mine to display anything at all :P |
| 06:15.21 | Zanam | i've been adding texts, players, images, always comes up empty |
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| 06:16.34 | Dedo | Morning |
| 06:17.05 | Error | you enable it to show to players? |
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| 06:17.24 | Zanam | yeah, the leaderboard itself shows up with a title and a minimize button, just no data |
| 06:17.54 | Pinzu | add rows and coloums |
| 06:18.15 | Zanam | set it to start with 6 rows, 4 columns... or should they be added post-creation |
| 06:18.28 | Error | http://maulware.net/tutorials/leaderboard.html |
| 06:19.02 | Zanam | thanks error, that's a nice tutorial. |
| 06:19.28 | rooj | has anyone had issues with text color within dialogues? |
| 06:19.51 | Error | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.06 | Darkarbiter | nope |
| 06:20.10 | Darkarbiter | it's been fine for me |
| 06:20.14 | rooj | weird |
| 06:20.41 | rooj | Dialog - Create a label for dialog Scoreboard with the dimensions (200, 50) anchored to Top Left with an offset of (150, 50) with the text "0" color set to Red text writeout set to false with a writeout duration of 2.0 |
| 06:20.55 | rooj | the text displays as white though O_O; |
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| 06:21.43 | ProzaicMuze | wtf |
| 06:21.48 | ProzaicMuze | is every link broken? |
| 06:22.06 | ProzaicMuze | Who moved Tutorials from Development to Resources? lol |
| 06:22.11 | ProzaicMuze | Every one of my links is now borked :( |
| 06:22.20 | rooj | yeah i was noticing broken links 8( |
| 06:26.37 | Otixa[zZz] | no homo |
| 06:29.04 | Sixen | Sorry |
| 06:29.08 | Sixen | It was time to expand the forums |
| 06:29.11 | Sixen | Working on fixing everything |
| 06:29.26 | Rayden | howdy |
| 06:29.57 | Dedo | howdy |
| 06:30.35 | Otixa | mornin |
| 06:30.44 | Otixa | Sixen, no breaking stuff homo >:[ |
| 06:31.06 | Dedo | Sixen: Why tamper with perfection? |
| 06:31.18 | Sixen | Yeah, yeah |
| 06:31.26 | Sixen | Map Dev Forum had 5k threads, too big :P |
| 06:31.36 | Otixa | and fux the damn thing |
| 06:31.48 | Otixa | so it doesn't go to page 4785648376 of the thread |
| 06:31.49 | Sixen | well, it'll be fixed within the next few days |
| 06:33.24 | onetwo | anyone off the top of their head know a good model to use for a coca cola tower |
| 06:33.26 | onetwo | for my TD |
| 06:33.34 | onetwo | somewhat close to a bottle or something |
| 06:33.53 | Dedo | use shapes |
| 06:33.59 | Dedo | change axis scale |
| 06:34.09 | Dedo | and make a red circle in the middle |
| 06:34.13 | Dedo | with another shape |
| 06:34.28 | Dedo | just turn them into doodads so you can change heigh and color easily |
| 06:34.32 | Dedo | height* |
| 06:34.40 | onetwo | hmm |
| 06:34.41 | onetwo | k |
| 06:35.00 | ProzaicMuze | How about use the Shape Bottle |
| 06:35.02 | Dedo | you can use a 2 tube shapes and 1 circle to make a bottle |
| 06:35.03 | ProzaicMuze | That is built in? |
| 06:35.15 | Dedo | 1 one thin one at top, thick at bottom, and circle to make it connect |
| 06:35.28 | Dedo | oh wait |
| 06:35.31 | Dedo | its a unit |
| 06:36.18 | Dedo | nvm then |
| 06:36.28 | ProzaicMuze | Oh it's you |
| 06:36.36 | ProzaicMuze | That dirty jew who is going to make me type more in my tutorials |
| 06:36.37 | ProzaicMuze | Darn you! |
| 06:36.42 | Dedo | :( |
| 06:36.47 | Dedo | jew? |
| 06:36.53 | Lilianna | :o |
| 06:36.57 | Dedo | :( |
| 06:36.58 | ProzaicMuze | Yes |
| 06:37.04 | ProzaicMuze | because only a jew would want more more more! ;ol |
| 06:37.06 | ProzaicMuze | lol* |
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| 06:37.17 | Dedo | well im not a religious jew |
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| 06:37.19 | Dedo | I; |
| 06:37.22 | Lilianna | Throw a penny into a crowd of jews? |
| 06:37.23 | Dedo | I'm an athiest jew |
| 06:37.25 | Otixa | Jew |
| 06:37.31 | Otixa | stabs |
| 06:37.36 | ProzaicMuze | The crowd will become a single man |
| 06:37.37 | ProzaicMuze | With a penny |
| 06:37.48 | Dedo | lol |
| 06:37.51 | Otixa | No, they'll make copper wire |
| 06:37.54 | Lilianna | I have a friend |
| 06:37.57 | Otixa | By pulling it |
| 06:37.58 | Lilianna | who is from Israel |
| 06:38.01 | Lilianna | we call her Jewgirl |
| 06:38.04 | Dedo | I'd pay money (not really) for a private teaching of site operations |
| 06:38.04 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 06:38.13 | Dedo | <--- from israel |
| 06:38.19 | ProzaicMuze | lol seriously? |
| 06:38.24 | Dedo | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.24 | HR_ | i have two large integer arrays that i want to use in my triggers, like 64k each... what is the best way to store them in my map? |
| 06:38.26 | Dogmai | trollololol |
| 06:38.35 | ProzaicMuze | See, I KNEW there had to be some jew in yeh ;) |
| 06:38.48 | HR_ | the best way i know is as strings in a script, and then translate them to the array |
| 06:38.49 | Dogmai | you guys are ridiculous |
| 06:38.50 | Dedo | no jew in me |
| 06:38.55 | Dedo | sugar spice and everything greedy |
| 06:38.58 | Dedo | is in me |
| 06:38.59 | Lilianna | Im not rediculous |
| 06:39.03 | Lilianna | Im Redonkulous |
| 06:39.05 | HR_ | is there any way to import integer array from a file or anything |
| 06:39.09 | Otixa | I'm stabby :D |
| 06:39.12 | ProzaicMuze | You're a Powder Puff Jew!? |
| 06:39.18 | Otixa | stabs Dogmai in the face |
| 06:39.19 | Dedo | pew pew |
| 06:39.25 | Lilianna | Do I get pink Pom poms? |
| 06:39.26 | ProzaicMuze | That means you're black, walk funny and have a phat arse, yeah? |
| 06:39.32 | Dedo | powder puffs didnt invest sugar spice and everything nice |
| 06:39.34 | Otixa | burns Lilianna |
| 06:39.36 | Dedo | its ooooold |
| 06:39.41 | Dedo | invent* |
| 06:40.11 | ProzaicMuze | Gah, looking at the tags in my tutorials after the fact makes my eyes bleed |
| 06:40.11 | Dedo | ProzaicMuze: site ops :(? |
| 06:40.18 | ProzaicMuze | so mane *</|( 's |
| 06:40.24 | ProzaicMuze | many* |
| 06:40.45 | Dedo | what fact? |
| 06:40.59 | ProzaicMuze | Looking at it after posting it |
| 06:41.08 | ProzaicMuze | It's a saying |
| 06:41.13 | Dedo | what are you writing now? |
| 06:41.25 | ProzaicMuze | I'm lookin' at that tutorial to see what I should asplain more |
| 06:41.38 | Dedo | well its not explain more |
| 06:41.46 | Dedo | its just that... |
| 06:41.59 | Dedo | you just organize your furture tutorials step by step |
| 06:42.16 | Dedo | FIRST teach how what site ops are, then teach how to attach model with them, then teach how to make the models act as units |
| 06:42.18 | Dedo | etc etc... |
| 06:42.29 | ProzaicMuze | YOu mean like this: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/3939-data-working-with-beams-beginner-difficulty/?page=3#p49 |
| 06:42.42 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/3939-data-working-with-beams-beginner-difficulty/ |
| 06:42.46 | Dedo | like, you dont need to make us copy L2 L3 R1 R2 R3, if we know how to do it ourself we will |
| 06:42.47 | ProzaicMuze | stupid last post |
| 06:43.27 | HR_ | anybody got tips on how to store data it initialize large integer array? maybe something with banks? |
| 06:44.26 | Dedo | hmm |
| 06:44.38 | Dedo | the beams is one of the tutorials i havnt looked into yet |
| 06:45.04 | Otixa | abuses ProzaicMuze |
| 06:45.09 | ProzaicMuze | moans |
| 06:45.16 | Lilianna | takes pictures |
| 06:45.16 | Otixa | No homo D: |
| 06:45.20 | Dedo | I dont know how it is, but I know that not just yours, but every tutorial I found always filled out the test for me, and got an A+, but I haven't ;earnd a thing |
| 06:45.32 | Otixa | abuses Lilianna |
| 06:45.35 | Dedo | learned* |
| 06:45.57 | Dedo | I really annoying you right now arn't i? |
| 06:46.00 | Lilianna | reports Otixa, gets him put on Sexual Predator list |
| 06:46.03 | ProzaicMuze | When you say it like that it almost sounds like you just can't learn anything ;P |
| 06:46.08 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 06:46.11 | ProzaicMuze | I'm not easily annoyed :) |
| 06:46.14 | Otixa | Predator! \o/ |
| 06:46.16 | Dedo | k good |
| 06:46.21 | ProzaicMuze | I mean |
| 06:46.22 | ProzaicMuze | zomg |
| 06:46.23 | ProzaicMuze | I hate you |
| 06:46.28 | ProzaicMuze | ragequits your faiz! |
| 06:46.32 | Dedo | lol not that I cant learn it |
| 06:46.38 | Dedo | but i just follow a tutorial like a machine |
| 06:46.47 | Dedo | I dont know how I even got to the finish line, I dont remember |
| 06:46.49 | Otixa | goes around doing whatever sexual predators do |
| 06:47.00 | Dedo | And I couldn't repeat it again without the tutorial |
| 06:47.11 | ProzaicMuze | @Otixa - you mean drop the soap in jail? |
| 06:47.18 | Otixa | NoU D:< |
| 06:47.24 | Otixa | I haz soap on a rope |
| 06:47.27 | Otixa | shows |
| 06:47.58 | Dedo | Anyway ProzaicMuze could you find the time to help me with site ops? |
| 06:48.11 | Dedo | I just want to do model attaching like done via triggers, but do it in data |
| 06:48.13 | ProzaicMuze | At the moment I'm editing pictures, so I can't open the editor |
| 06:48.15 | Dedo | ill learn the rest myself |
| 06:48.18 | ProzaicMuze | but I'll gladly explain it to yeh |
| 06:48.30 | Dedo | not now, gonna break my fast |
| 06:48.35 | Dedo | later today |
| 06:48.46 | Otixa | ProzaicMuze, can you help me make a AAA game? :D |
| 06:48.51 | ProzaicMuze | lol it's 12pm here, so how much later you thinkin'? |
| 06:48.58 | Zanam | does the built-in action sort leaderboard not work? |
| 06:49.00 | ProzaicMuze | @Otixa - do you have monaiz? |
| 06:49.01 | Dedo | oh well 9:48 |
| 06:49.04 | Dedo | then tomorrow for you |
| 06:49.07 | onetwo | its always 12 pm for me |
| 06:49.09 | Otixa | ProzaicMuze, for free, fgt! |
| 06:49.11 | Dedo | it will be afternoon for me |
| 06:49.12 | ProzaicMuze | @.@ |
| 06:49.16 | ProzaicMuze | You bastage! |
| 06:49.21 | ProzaicMuze | I'm not some cheap whore! |
| 06:49.24 | ProzaicMuze | covers himself up |
| 06:49.29 | Otixa | I need you to do a HLGDD and GDD and 10 or so LDDs and like |
| 06:49.33 | HR_ | i would be limited to character codes 32 through 126 |
| 06:49.34 | Otixa | Cinematics |
| 06:49.38 | HR_ | if i use strings |
| 06:49.39 | Otixa | And UI design |
| 06:49.40 | ProzaicMuze | @12 - har har that there done be a funny! |
| 06:49.57 | Otixa | Also per-polygon collisions |
| 06:50.14 | Otixa | And projectile trajectory vector calculations |
| 06:50.23 | ProzaicMuze | No monaiz, no advanced mathematics for you! |
| 06:50.25 | Otixa | With gravity and all |
| 06:50.33 | Otixa | ololol :D |
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| 06:51.37 | ProzaicMuze | It would be cool if triggers could do calculus functions |
| 06:51.43 | ProzaicMuze | Then I could make cool shapes |
| 06:52.15 | HR_ | cant you jsut write the functions you need? |
| 06:52.17 | Otixa | You need DrawPixel() for that ;p |
| 06:52.28 | ProzaicMuze | I have no idea HR, I don't do triggers |
| 06:52.33 | ProzaicMuze | I just know that there are some limitations |
| 06:52.38 | Otixa | And that's liek deep in the actul API of the SC2 engine |
| 06:52.46 | ProzaicMuze | Since it obviously doesn't have the various calc constants saved anywhere lol |
| 06:52.55 | Otixa | i.e. stuff you scrubs don't have access to :P |
| 06:52.57 | HR_ | custom script block is the tightest way to do it |
| 06:53.29 | ProzaicMuze | So it can do integrals and such? |
| 06:53.42 | ProzaicMuze | with the lazy line and everyting? |
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| 06:53.58 | Otixa | If you write a function for it, prolly ;p |
| 06:54.01 | Cobellanez | Mmmmm |
| 06:54.06 | ProzaicMuze | oooh |
| 06:54.12 | Cobellanez | MMMMMMMMMM |
| 06:54.13 | Otixa | You have some trig functions |
| 06:54.14 | ProzaicMuze | time to demonstrate my amazing math skillz! |
| 06:54.18 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 06:54.18 | HR_ | im assuming it would if you wrote the functions out of simpler math functions, and if it doesnt require TOO much processing time |
| 06:54.23 | ProzaicMuze | middle school trig functiosn don't count |
| 06:54.28 | Otixa | But you still can't draw functions |
| 06:54.31 | Otixa | er |
| 06:54.38 | Otixa | don't have draw functions* |
| 06:54.53 | Otixa | so the best you could do is spawn units/doodads |
| 06:55.37 | Cobellanez | My map is on Bnet now :o, no ones ever going to play it though, atleast since its not done. |
| 06:55.46 | ProzaicMuze | ha ha |
| 06:56.17 | Lilianna | I made christmas trees in WC3 with math |
| 06:56.18 | Lilianna | :O |
| 06:56.28 | Lilianna | it was fun |
| 06:56.32 | Cobellanez | Mainly because I've only got one race "playable"now |
| 06:56.32 | ProzaicMuze | Christmas is against my religion |
| 06:56.35 | ProzaicMuze | So your story is uncool |
| 06:56.48 | Lilianna | :P |
| 06:56.52 | Cobellanez | Mmmmm, Zerg |
| 06:57.30 | ProzaicMuze | In fact, happiness is against my religion too |
| 06:57.33 | ProzaicMuze | So you're all dirty heathens |
| 06:57.49 | Dogmai | is there a way to change a users race in game |
| 06:57.59 | ProzaicMuze | Modify Player? |
| 06:58.09 | Dogmai | lemme check that mate |
| 06:58.12 | Cobellanez | SC:2 Restructured, Find it, Play it, Hate like I know you would |
| 06:58.17 | Otixa | Lilianna, how does that work? |
| 06:58.31 | Lilianna | ? |
| 06:58.37 | Otixa | The trees with math |
| 06:58.38 | onetwo | anyone know a blackish missile model |
| 06:58.42 | onetwo | like roach missile except black |
| 06:58.48 | Lilianna | I made an exponential function to set the unit height |
| 06:58.48 | onetwo | like oil spew |
| 06:58.49 | Dogmai | nop |
| 06:58.56 | Lilianna | and then rotated it around a circle and repeated |
| 06:59.04 | Lilianna | it was like a dangling lights tree |
| 06:59.09 | Lilianna | tree with no tree |
| 06:59.10 | Lilianna | sorta thing |
| 06:59.20 | Otixa | is confused :| |
| 06:59.30 | SycoPrime | onetwo: Can't you just change the missle's actor to tint it? |
| 06:59.37 | onetwo | i dont know if you can tint black |
| 06:59.40 | HR_ | maybe ill store the data packed into a bunch of StringExternal, then convert it to ints at run |
| 06:59.41 | Otixa | I suspect hax ¬_¬ |
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| 07:00.03 | Lilianna | http://christmas-wallpapers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Christmas_Wallpaper_Water_Lights_Tree.jpg |
| 07:00.05 | Lilianna | like that |
| 07:00.08 | Lilianna | no tree |
| 07:00.10 | Lilianna | just lights |
| 07:00.45 | Otixa | Oh, I see |
| 07:00.45 | Cobellanez | Imma eat cheese and crakers now |
| 07:00.45 | Otixa | Well, hax |
| 07:00.45 | Lilianna | made it out of whisps |
| 07:00.45 | Lilianna | wisps |
| 07:00.45 | Otixa | highfives Lilianna |
| 07:00.45 | Lilianna | whatever |
| 07:00.45 | Clord | I would almost buy virtual ticket to get some good looking icon XD |
| 07:00.45 | SycoPrime | Cool. |
| 07:00.46 | Clord | lol |
| 07:00.46 | ProzaicMuze | whips!? |
| 07:00.47 | ProzaicMuze | I want! |
| 07:00.51 | ProzaicMuze | O wait. . . |
| 07:00.58 | Otixa | whips ProzaicMuze across the face |
| 07:01.04 | ProzaicMuze | @.@ |
| 07:01.08 | Otixa | Wish granted |
| 07:01.10 | Otixa | :> |
| 07:01.19 | ProzaicMuze | No me gusta :( |
| 07:01.24 | SycoPrime | Is there anything I should be doing on my map in order to minimize size and/or loading time? |
| 07:02.05 | onetwo | any triggers that run on map init |
| 07:02.05 | onetwo | increase load time |
| 07:02.05 | Otixa | stabs 12 |
| 07:02.05 | rooj | stab me |
| 07:02.05 | Cobellanez | Om nom nom |
| 07:02.07 | rooj | with your penile |
| 07:02.13 | dyspatch | is there an easy way to mirror a map with the editor? |
| 07:02.20 | Nash|327 | making a new video |
| 07:02.23 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 07:02.23 | ProzaicMuze | rooj |
| 07:02.25 | ProzaicMuze | that's icky |
| 07:02.32 | ProzaicMuze | peniles are gross |
| 07:02.33 | rooj | i'm an icky kinda guy |
| 07:02.35 | rooj | i'm sorry 8( |
| 07:02.39 | ProzaicMuze | penises are awesome |
| 07:02.41 | ProzaicMuze | peniles. . . gross |
| 07:02.42 | Otixa | No homo :| |
| 07:02.46 | rooj | oh ok |
| 07:02.51 | ProzaicMuze | I have 3 penises |
| 07:02.51 | rooj | yes penises rule |
| 07:02.52 | Cobellanez | I draw with my penile |
| 07:02.53 | ProzaicMuze | because I'm THAT manly |
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| 07:03.04 | SycoPrime | stabs rooj with a pencil. |
| 07:03.16 | HR_ | i wonder if the Param/Value/FFFFFFFF hex value in game strings need to be set to the proper hash or if i can just pick number? |
| 07:03.16 | Otixa | lawl, we make people leave :D |
| 07:03.17 | mike9055 | 2 of those cancel each other out leaving you with one peni |
| 07:03.17 | rooj | gets lead poisoning |
| 07:03.29 | Otixa | One penny? ;o |
| 07:03.40 | Cobellanez | A penis in the bush, is worth 2 in the hand |
| 07:03.43 | mike9055 | p-nye! |
| 07:03.58 | Otixa | niergh |
| 07:04.13 | rooj | if all you got paid was a penny you might want to get a new pimp |
| 07:04.33 | ProzaicMuze | penay |
| 07:04.34 | onetwo | man it bugs me that turret and missile actor arent linked in object explorer |
| 07:04.38 | ProzaicMuze | pene? |
| 07:04.40 | onetwo | have to manually duplicate each time |
| 07:04.41 | ProzaicMuze | penache! |
| 07:04.43 | Cobellanez | Maybe that is the only pimp that likes peniles |
| 07:05.26 | SycoPrime | That sounds like a business opportunity. |
| 07:05.28 | mike9055 | find yoself a nickel pimp |
| 07:05.41 | Zarafu | hey Syco, you available for a quick test? like 5 min |
| 07:05.41 | Otixa | Srs business. |
| 07:05.47 | ProzaicMuze | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:06.10 | mike9055 | not possible |
| 07:06.11 | Otixa | Where's mah bitches? >:[ |
| 07:06.47 | Otixa | pimp slaps ProzaicMuze |
| 07:06.54 | Cobellanez | Mmmm, cheese and Saltines |
| 07:06.57 | ProzaicMuze | is immune |
| 07:07.00 | Otixa | Back to work, bitch! |
| 07:07.29 | SycoPrime | Zara: Yes. Let me just check a few things on my map. |
| 07:07.32 | ProzaicMuze | I work for no one! |
| 07:08.29 | Cobellanez | Anyone want to take a look at my map and see if they can find anything wrong with it? |
| 07:09.10 | Otixa | laughs at Cobellanez from the shadows |
| 07:09.20 | Cobellanez | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:09.32 | Cobellanez | Ok, rewording |
| 07:09.43 | Cobellanez | See how many things they can find wrong with it |
| 07:09.43 | ProzaicMuze | It's your map |
| 07:09.46 | ProzaicMuze | that's what's wrong with it |
| 07:09.59 | Cobellanez | :F |
| 07:10.05 | Otixa | :D |
| 07:10.09 | Otixa | highfives ProzaicMuze |
| 07:10.20 | ProzaicMuze | is teh dissmaestro! |
| 07:10.29 | ProzaicMuze | What is your map, anyways? |
| 07:10.30 | Otixa | is a bad influence :D |
| 07:10.33 | mike9055 | ProzaicMuze: let's play HoN |
| 07:10.55 | rrowland | dont you guys go getting any ideas |
| 07:10.57 | ProzaicMuze | But I's in teh middles of a session :( |
| 07:11.08 | ProzaicMuze | And if I did, rrowland would kill me for cheatin'! |
| 07:11.09 | rrowland | about playing hon |
| 07:11.31 | rrowland | mike is mikeykill |
| 07:11.41 | SycoPrime | Does anyone know how I can have a mineral field respawn/regrow when one expires? |
| 07:11.41 | ProzaicMuze | Oh, the one I played with that one time? |
| 07:11.44 | rrowland | yes |
| 07:11.51 | ProzaicMuze | That one time he and I owned and you sucked balls? |
| 07:11.56 | rrowland | no |
| 07:12.06 | SycoPrime | I tried editing the thing in the data editor so that you can pick stuff up from it when it's expired, but the worker just sits there and stares at it. |
| 07:12.12 | ProzaicMuze | I think Mike know's what I'm talkin' about ;) |
| 07:12.26 | SycoPrime | And I tried a trigger with "Unit Dies" in the event, but I guess since it isn't "dying", it won't fire :/ |
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| 07:12.32 | rrowland | know's |
| 07:12.34 | rrowland | good grammar |
| 07:12.35 | rrowland | idiot |
| 07:12.39 | ProzaicMuze | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:12.47 | ProzaicMuze | I can's add's 's to whatever's I want's |
| 07:12.51 | Hati | morning |
| 07:12.57 | mike9055 | only if you are swiss |
| 07:13.12 | ProzaicMuze | I like swiis cheese |
| 07:13.15 | ProzaicMuze | So that counts |
| 07:13.17 | ProzaicMuze | swiss* |
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| 07:13.53 | ProzaicMuze | so rrowland, wheny ou gonna be free to play HoN? |
| 07:13.57 | ProzaicMuze | I got like 9 pictures left |
| 07:13.59 | ProzaicMuze | Then i wanna do something |
| 07:14.02 | Cobellanez_ | Ok, I was lost after "Dont get any ideas" |
| 07:14.05 | ProzaicMuze | I've edited 1k+ pictures today :( |
| 07:14.09 | Cobellanez_ | Underscore the FUCK |
| 07:14.19 | Cobellanez_ | oh |
| 07:14.25 | mike9055 | i wish i had 9 pitchers left |
| 07:14.26 | Cobellanez_ | NNNNNNNG |
| 07:14.46 | Otixa | beer > you |
| 07:14.48 | rrowland | I might play |
| 07:14.54 | rrowland | I've been thinking of some sweet dialog for my game |
| 07:15.55 | mike9055 | sweet game requires sweet dialog |
| 07:16.37 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 07:16.41 | ProzaicMuze | epic game requires epic dialog |
| 07:16.43 | ProzaicMuze | so your game will suck |
| 07:16.47 | ProzaicMuze | because it only has sweet dialog |
| 07:17.04 | Trager|546|US | Anyone know how to make it so that when a player loses they aren't forced to leave? I can't figure it out |
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| 07:17.48 | mike9055 | i was playing and it was epic. one of the bosses saw what i did to his level so he decided to hide from me |
| 07:18.11 | mike9055 | rrowland said it was a bug, but i know the truth. im too good |
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| 07:18.19 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 07:18.20 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 07:18.24 | Otixa | :D |
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| 07:18.52 | rrowland | 8) |
| 07:19.07 | onetwo | this is weird lol |
| 07:19.14 | onetwo | i keep having to re-delete the buttons from my builders command card |
| 07:19.27 | onetwo | every time ive gone back in |
| 07:19.34 | onetwo | random buildings are back on the card |
| 07:19.35 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:19.44 | ProzaicMuze | It's a sign |
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| 07:20.13 | pinzu | ello again |
| 07:20.34 | pinzu | got |
| 07:20.50 | Trager|546|US | so does no one know how to do that? |
| 07:21.01 | pinzu | what? |
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| 07:21.13 | Trager|546|US | Make it so that when a player is defeated they're not forced to leave |
| 07:21.31 | Trager|546|US | I've been dicking around trying to make it happen for the past three hours |
| 07:21.41 | pinzu | are you making a melee map? |
| 07:21.50 | pinzu | I mean, they are never forced to leave unless you force them!? |
| 07:22.06 | Trager|546|US | yea, I have to have a defeat trigger |
| 07:22.17 | Trager|546|US | and a win trigger, which has yet to be made |
| 07:22.47 | mike9055 | im listening to La Roux right now, that doesnt make me gay does it? |
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| 07:23.17 | pinzu | you called it mike ;) |
| 07:23.32 | Trager|546|US | soooo |
| 07:23.47 | pinzu | Im sorry but I cant understand your question |
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| 07:23.55 | pinzu | cus a player isnt forced to leave just like that |
| 07:24.20 | Trager|546|US | orly |
| 07:24.36 | rooj | EDITOR CRASH |
| 07:24.37 | rooj | BOOM |
| 07:24.38 | rooj | SMASH |
| 07:24.39 | rooj | CLANG |
| 07:24.41 | rooj | BANG |
| 07:25.04 | Trager|546|US | pinzu the defeat dialog is missing the return to game option |
| 07:25.09 | Trager|546|US | all it has is the score screen button |
| 07:25.16 | pinzu | make your own |
| 07:25.21 | pinzu | dialog |
| 07:25.43 | Trager|546|US | that replaces the default defeat one? |
| 07:25.48 | pinzu | yes |
| 07:26.05 | Trager|546|US | Anyone have a second opinion? |
| 07:26.10 | Trager|546|US | I know not how dialogs work |
| 07:26.15 | Darkarbiter | How do I end the game in victory for a player group? |
| 07:26.21 | SycoPrime | Try disabling your current defeat trigger to see if it's causing the problem. |
| 07:26.22 | pinzu | well as far as I know there isnt add a stay in game to the defeat dialog |
| 07:26.22 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDlbhvjmV-Y |
| 07:26.28 | ProzaicMuze | win |
| 07:27.02 | Darkarbiter | gaiz |
| 07:27.13 | Darkarbiter | how do I end the game in victory for a player? |
| 07:27.19 | JamesW05 | well Trager|546|US why not just change your victory condition to cause defeat for the losers all in one go |
| 07:27.39 | Trager|546|US | Because then I'd need a victory condition |
| 07:27.42 | pinzu | lol |
| 07:27.43 | JamesW05 | that way no one is defeated until game ends |
| 07:27.48 | pinzu | I like how I cant understand a word he is saying ;D |
| 07:27.52 | mike9055 | is that kim jong il's son? |
| 07:28.05 | Trager|546|US | goddamn firefox 4, it won't play |
| 07:28.21 | Trager|546|US | JamesW05 that is a good idea though |
| 07:29.44 | Cobellanez_ | Chao Orciaa MUhta FUCKAHS |
| 07:30.10 | pinzu | I need some tinkering help |
| 07:30.19 | pinzu | http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg143/Chaago/?action=view¤t=aaa.png |
| 07:30.46 | pinzu | how do I registrate if a ball(unit) comes near the wall |
| 07:31.03 | pinzu | and what angle the wall currently has |
| 07:31.18 | Darkarbiter | When they say |
| 07:31.21 | pinzu | or... which way the ball would bounce towards |
| 07:31.22 | Darkarbiter | " |
| 07:31.25 | Darkarbiter | "Player 1 from player group" |
| 07:31.31 | Darkarbiter | do they mean the first player in the player group? |
| 07:34.24 | onetwo | this is fucking hilarious |
| 07:34.28 | onetwo | i have to go watch my own leaderboard tutorial |
| 07:34.31 | onetwo | to remember how to make one |
| 07:34.31 | onetwo | . |
| 07:34.41 | Darkarbiter | lolol |
| 07:34.45 | Error | nice! |
| 07:34.48 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 07:34.59 | Darkarbiter | great so... cinematic fade |
| 07:35.07 | Darkarbiter | means I can't see leaderboards |
| 07:35.34 | pinzu | gais, I need help |
| 07:35.40 | pinzu | http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg143/Chaago/?action=view¤t=aaa.png |
| 07:35.50 | pinzu | I want to make a sort of physic ball bounce |
| 07:35.53 | pinzu | against the doodad wall |
| 07:36.09 | pinzu | but don't know how exacly I would check if the ball is in range |
| 07:36.13 | Darkarbiter | how do I make the lighting fully black? |
| 07:36.27 | pinzu | enviroments |
| 07:36.38 | pinzu | I could send you a map I have |
| 07:36.42 | pinzu | with some enviroment test commands |
| 07:36.54 | pinzu | you can change it all in game ;d |
| 07:37.00 | pinzu | just to find out what you want) |
| 07:38.30 | Darkarbiter | is there a way |
| 07:38.33 | Clord | onetwo... drugs are bad... mmmokay |
| 07:38.34 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:38.35 | Darkarbiter | to just make everything be fully black? |
| 07:38.54 | pinzu | yea |
| 07:39.06 | pinzu | would have to check how, don't remeber exacly |
| 07:39.08 | Clord | :) |
| 07:40.03 | Zarafu | hey Syco, you still around? |
| 07:40.05 | Darkarbiter | Ok |
| 07:40.07 | Darkarbiter | why the hell |
| 07:40.10 | Darkarbiter | is my leaderboard not appearing |
| 07:40.48 | pinzu | to to asshoe |
| 07:41.03 | pinzu | I found the map |
| 07:41.05 | pinzu | now lets see |
| 07:42.26 | pinzu | ok darkarbiter |
| 07:42.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster Shenlok (shenlok@spoon.netsoc.tcd.ie) |
| 07:42.33 | pinzu | change the fog density to a higher number |
| 07:42.41 | Darkarbiter | I got it to be black |
| 07:42.42 | pinzu | and then set the colour to black |
| 07:42.45 | Darkarbiter | but leaderboard aint appearing |
| 07:42.56 | Darkarbiter | I chose to disable the enviroment in region entire map |
| 07:43.20 | pinzu | "show/hide leaderboards (last created leaderboard)" |
| 07:43.30 | pinzu | isnt that something you must have? |
| 07:43.30 | Darkarbiter | already did |
| 07:43.32 | Darkarbiter | not appearing |
| 07:43.37 | Darkarbiter | I don't believe it is actually |
| 07:43.42 | Darkarbiter | it appers anyway |
| 07:43.44 | Darkarbiter | but I have it anyway |
| 07:44.06 | SycoPrime | How would one modify a mover using a behavior? |
| 07:44.57 | Aussie123 | dumb ads on tv with catchy phrases |
| 07:45.16 | Aussie123 | victory victory carpets and blinds 1 3 1 3 double 9 |
| 07:45.20 | pinzu | guys anyone has any suggestions to "my problem"? |
| 07:45.30 | pinzu | http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg143/Chaago/?action=view¤t=aaa.png |
| 07:45.46 | pinzu | I want a ball to "bounce" on the wall |
| 07:45.59 | Darkarbiter | It's not fucking appearing |
| 07:46.01 | ProzaicMuze | Mike and rrowland |
| 07:46.05 | ProzaicMuze | I be ready to go in like 5-10mins |
| 07:46.14 | ProzaicMuze | What sayeth you? |
| 07:46.33 | Otixa | fu ProzaicMuze! |
| 07:46.42 | ProzaicMuze | Only if you have a vagina |
| 07:46.52 | SycoPrime | pinzu: I honestly have no idea how to do this, but maybe to get you started, you could find the angle between 2 points, at opposite ends of the doodad, to get the angle of the wall? |
| 07:46.57 | mike9055 | ProzaicMuze: i'll be here |
| 07:47.11 | SycoPrime | You may have to set points / regions manually in the editor. It's not pretty, but it may be a start. |
| 07:47.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster Otixa[zZz] (Otixa@87-126-143-97.btc-net.bg) |
| 07:47.30 | Otixa[zZz] | Interbutts fail ¬_¬ |
| 07:47.46 | ProzaicMuze | ??? |
| 07:47.52 | Zarafu | hey Syco, you good to go now? |
| 07:48.15 | Darkarbiter | is there any reason |
| 07:48.18 | Darkarbiter | why a leaderboard |
| 07:48.20 | Darkarbiter | just won't display |
| 07:48.26 | Darkarbiter | is there some conflict with dialog boxes? |
| 07:48.28 | Zarafu | did you make it display for everyone? |
| 07:48.36 | Zarafu | can you show me your triggers? |
| 07:49.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster Xaragoth (~Noone@port-92-202-65-197.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 07:49.31 | Darkarbiter | want me to send the map? |
| 07:49.34 | Zarafu | ok |
| 07:49.39 | Zarafu | fqureshi.zaraf@gmail.com |
| 07:49.40 | SycoPrime | Zaraf: Sure. |
| 07:49.49 | Zarafu | ok, meet you on bnet |
| 07:50.38 | Otixa | >:[ |
| 07:50.42 | Xaragoth | stabs Sixen. |
| 07:50.50 | Xaragoth | Are you around? |
| 07:51.06 | Otixa | stabs Sixen |
| 07:51.10 | Otixa | stabs Xaragoth |
| 07:51.20 | Darkarbiter | zarafu? |
| 07:51.23 | Zarafu | sup |
| 07:51.23 | Darkarbiter | still there? |
| 07:51.30 | Zarafu | yeah |
| 07:51.32 | Zarafu | email me |
| 07:51.38 | Zarafu | fqureshi.zaraf@gmail.com |
| 07:51.46 | Darkarbiter | just linked you |
| 07:52.13 | rooj | my editor is getting SUPER slow tonight O_O; |
| 07:52.20 | ProzaicMuze | Otixa |
| 07:52.24 | ProzaicMuze | I just saw that vid intro crap |
| 07:52.27 | ProzaicMuze | I have some bad news |
| 07:52.48 | ProzaicMuze | That shaky stuff sucks |
| 07:52.55 | Otixa | fu ;P |
| 07:53.10 | Trager|546|US | When players are defeated are they automatically removed from any player groups they may have been in? |
| 07:53.11 | ProzaicMuze | If you removed the shaky part and made it more wisp/smoke like |
| 07:53.12 | ProzaicMuze | it'd be better |
| 07:53.31 | ProzaicMuze | Then it would look like it was being peeled/blown away |
| 07:53.37 | ProzaicMuze | as opposed to being shaken until it falls off lol |
| 07:53.55 | Otixa | shoves ProzaicMuze to the side |
| 07:53.59 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 07:54.00 | ProzaicMuze | fine |
| 07:54.03 | ProzaicMuze | don't make an epic intro |
| 07:54.07 | Otixa | I asked for input like 3 days ago |
| 07:54.07 | ProzaicMuze | You can have a sucky one instead :) |
| 07:54.12 | Otixa | You said nothing then |
| 07:54.15 | Otixa | So fu ;P |
| 07:54.30 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 07:54.35 | Darkarbiter | ok |
| 07:54.39 | Otixa | I'll prolly make another one eventually |
| 07:54.40 | Darkarbiter | I click create leaderboard |
| 07:56.32 | Darkarbiter | and show it |
| 07:56.39 | Darkarbiter | and I've made heaps of leaderboards in the past |
| 07:56.41 | Darkarbiter | but this time |
| 07:56.44 | Darkarbiter | noooo it doesn't fucking show |
| 07:56.56 | Darkarbiter | no matter what I do |
| 07:57.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tinman (bjodeh@194.69.212.184) |
| 07:57.47 | Otixa | stabs Tinman |
| 08:01.02 | mike9055 | about to play a game |
| 08:01.04 | Otixa | stabs Tinman more |
| 08:02.03 | Xaragoth | Otixa, you need salt water |
| 08:02.11 | Xaragoth | tin corrodes when it comes in contant with that long enough |
| 08:02.11 | Xaragoth | :d |
| 08:02.17 | pinzu | lets say I have the codinates (x1,y1) (x2, y2) (x1,y2) (x2,y2) and I would like to create a area inside them detecing if a unit is within those cordinates how would I do it? |
| 08:02.19 | Otixa | :D |
| 08:02.26 | rooj | darkarbiter, did you put the map initialization in the events? |
| 08:02.36 | Darkarbiter | yes |
| 08:02.39 | Darkarbiter | I know the event runs |
| 08:02.47 | Darkarbiter | I addeded a "test" document write thing at the bottom |
| 08:02.49 | Darkarbiter | that display |
| 08:02.53 | Darkarbiter | just not the leaderboard |
| 08:03.17 | Otixa | Xaragoth, soliek, CL today |
| 08:03.19 | rrowland | face |
| 08:03.28 | Xaragoth | indeed |
| 08:03.43 | Otixa | Imma come play with you tards :D |
| 08:03.50 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 08:03.54 | rooj | maybe it has to do with the position of your leaderboard or something |
| 08:04.00 | Xaragoth | hey, someone is redecorating the forum with forums O.o |
| 08:04.08 | Otixa | Wut? ;o |
| 08:04.09 | Xaragoth | and he did some fails |
| 08:04.21 | Xaragoth | Project Workplace under Ressources? Seriously? |
| 08:04.21 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 08:04.33 | Otixa | lawl |
| 08:04.51 | Xaragoth | i'd rather put that up in the player zone |
| 08:05.14 | Otixa | I'd rather find my scissors |
| 08:05.59 | Xaragoth | so my rock can smash it? |
| 08:06.03 | Tinman | RAWR! |
| 08:06.09 | Darkarbiter | Lol |
| 08:06.12 | Otixa | lawl |
| 08:06.16 | Otixa | smacks Tinman |
| 08:06.18 | Darkarbiter | someone should make a rock paper scissors map |
| 08:06.42 | Tinman | ouch, that must have hurt Otixa |
| 08:06.47 | Otixa | ;P |
| 08:06.54 | Otixa | Save me a spot for CL |
| 08:07.01 | Otixa | I wanna come play :> |
| 08:07.07 | Tinman | EU! |
| 08:07.15 | Otixa | Wut? |
| 08:07.26 | Tinman | Its in the european region |
| 08:07.29 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 08:07.35 | Otixa | I know, I played with you last time, nub |
| 08:07.37 | Tinman | so you need a EU account |
| 08:07.43 | Tinman | I ate it |
| 08:07.49 | Otixa | Your memory sucks >:| |
| 08:08.01 | Tinman | eats Otixa Battle.net account |
| 08:08.05 | Otixa | evades |
| 08:08.14 | Tinman | fints |
| 08:08.18 | Otixa | wut |
| 08:08.35 | Tinman | doges and waves |
| 08:08.53 | Tinman | drinks some red bull and gets wings |
| 08:08.56 | Otixa | stabs Tinman |
| 08:09.17 | Tinman | flies away from the stabbing Otixa |
| 08:09.48 | Tinman | realizes he is heavy made out of tin, and fall into a trash compactor |
| 08:09.57 | Tinman | crap |
| 08:10.12 | Tinman | who places a trash compactor in the middle of a IRC channel! |
| 08:10.41 | Xaragoth | whistles. |
| 08:10.56 | Xaragoth | Oh, yeah. Gotta shave and get dressed up. |
| 08:11.06 | Xaragoth | Need to devlier this damn Texture test until 4pm |
| 08:11.09 | Otixa | ;P |
| 08:11.37 | Xaragoth | btw tinman |
| 08:11.44 | Tinman | I need to bake a cake for the show |
| 08:11.44 | Xaragoth | anything inside your mails? |
| 08:11.53 | Tinman | nope |
| 08:11.59 | Xaragoth | we don't need cake, we'll just sacrifice otixa to the good of sweet things. |
| 08:12.03 | Xaragoth | me neither. |
| 08:12.09 | Xaragoth | well, we'll see. |
| 08:12.26 | Xaragoth | reminds me that tomura is back ... and maybe I can get a hold of malu |
| 08:13.18 | pinzu | well since no one here is able to answer my question Im forced to make a forum post *shrugs* |
| 08:13.35 | Tinman | I never saw a question! |
| 08:13.36 | Otixa | You gaiz smell ;p |
| 08:14.50 | Tinman | I will make sure to give you a spot Otixa |
| 08:14.59 | Otixa | Goodie |
| 08:15.31 | Tinman | And we will have motion GFX! |
| 08:15.36 | Otixa | w00t ;D |
| 08:15.46 | *** part/#sc2mapster Xaragoth (~Noone@port-92-202-65-197.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 08:15.50 | Tinman | And I have figured a way around a bug in livestream |
| 08:15.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster Xaragoth (~Noone@port-92-202-65-197.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 08:15.54 | Otixa | There should be like a proper show intro tbh |
| 08:15.57 | Xaragoth | somewhere I pressed a wrong button |
| 08:15.57 | Xaragoth | oO |
| 08:16.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster ZarafFaraz (c6a60268@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.166.2.104) |
| 08:17.31 | Otixa | smacks Xaragoth |
| 08:17.47 | Xaragoth | burns Otixa while hes smacking. |
| 08:17.53 | Xaragoth | Don't you play with fire, you know. |
| 08:18.09 | Dogmai | hits both of them with a rubber chicken |
| 08:18.41 | Otixa | ;p |
| 08:18.44 | Xaragoth | reasonable attemt to fight madness :O |
| 08:18.48 | Xaragoth | +p |
| 08:20.46 | Dogmai | so im making my map on one comp |
| 08:20.49 | Dogmai | have mirc on the other |
| 08:20.55 | Dogmai | i want a rubber chicken |
| 08:21.18 | ProzaicMuze | smacks rrowland |
| 08:21.19 | ProzaicMuze | lez go wench! |
| 08:21.29 | Dogmai | fondles ProzaicMuze |
| 08:21.32 | ProzaicMuze | eww |
| 08:21.37 | Dogmai | you know you love it |
| 08:21.40 | rrowland | wat u day |
| 08:21.43 | rrowland | say |
| 08:21.44 | ProzaicMuze | Only if you have a vagina |
| 08:21.49 | ProzaicMuze | I say lets kill stuff |
| 08:21.56 | Dogmai | ugh, i sleep with someone who does |
| 08:21.58 | Dogmai | does that count? |
| 08:22.02 | ProzaicMuze | Only if you share |
| 08:22.13 | Dogmai | ... |
| 08:22.18 | ProzaicMuze | ;P |
| 08:22.27 | Dogmai | good luck talking her into that one |
| 08:22.31 | Dogmai | she will kick your ass back to taiwan |
| 08:22.32 | Dogmai | :P |
| 08:22.35 | ProzaicMuze | I can be very persuasive ;) |
| 08:22.41 | Dogmai | go for it mate |
| 08:22.41 | ProzaicMuze | I'm not from Taiwan :( |
| 08:22.43 | Dogmai | ha |
| 08:23.05 | Dogmai | taiwan is cool |
| 08:23.09 | Dogmai | they have betalnut girls |
| 08:23.50 | ProzaicMuze | :S |
| 08:26.03 | Xaragoth | someone call the devil |
| 08:26.06 | Xaragoth | we got a situation ehre |
| 08:26.08 | Xaragoth | *here |
| 08:26.12 | Xaragoth | http://thebible-onlinegame.com/ |
| 08:26.19 | Xaragoth | like WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WHIT THOSE POPLE ?! |
| 08:26.21 | Xaragoth | +E |
| 08:26.23 | Xaragoth | +E |
| 08:26.31 | Xaragoth | and I need to sleep some more next time |
| 08:26.32 | Xaragoth | oO |
| 08:29.31 | Otixa | THE BIBLE ONLINE |
| 08:29.32 | Otixa | lolololoo |
| 08:29.43 | Tinman | I WANT TO BE GOD! |
| 08:29.57 | *** join/#sc2mapster pinzu (d9d24974@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.210.73.116) |
| 08:30.10 | Otixa | Tinman, I already am :D |
| 08:30.20 | Tinman | I AM A TITAN THEN |
| 08:30.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster TheLaughingMan (~TheLaughi@99-71-64-200.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 08:30.32 | Tinman | The TinTitan |
| 08:30.39 | Tinman | I am the father of gods! |
| 08:30.43 | Otixa | I don't like the drugs, but the drugs like me |
| 08:30.45 | Otixa | ._. |
| 08:31.15 | rrowland | making religion cool for kids! |
| 08:31.43 | rrowland | if games and movies can make people believe star wars is real, it can do the same for religion |
| 08:32.42 | pinzu | ye lets have jesus fighting satan in a game |
| 08:32.47 | pinzu | or something |
| 08:32.58 | pinzu | he would have alot of cool catch phrases |
| 08:32.59 | HeyRevolver | omg i am having a breakdown i cant remember or find where to turn off a units lifebar |
| 08:33.04 | rrowland | good vs evil? that's never been done before |
| 08:33.22 | pinzu | never, yea... rly original ;) |
| 08:34.04 | pinzu | or yu could take a already exisitng game and replace the characters with bible characters |
| 08:34.59 | Tinman | Black and White, great game |
| 08:35.43 | Tinman | whats not cool with having a huge animal eating people that does not pray for you to give you mana so you can burn them with a fireball |
| 08:36.00 | Xaragoth | well |
| 08:36.07 | Xaragoth | you could always eat the people themselves |
| 08:36.10 | HeyRevolver | can someone please tell me where to turn off unit lifebars? |
| 08:36.12 | Xaragoth | all it takes is a good stomach. |
| 08:36.24 | Tinman | That also one of the few games where you can kill children |
| 08:36.24 | Xaragoth | something with UI it was |
| 08:36.25 | Otixa | spreads his wings ans stabs Xaragoth |
| 08:36.26 | Xaragoth | bar height |
| 08:37.11 | HeyRevolver | there is a way to make it not visible |
| 08:37.13 | Tinman | nothing is like having a nursery full of kids and just open up a volcano on it |
| 08:37.18 | HeyRevolver | it is set like that on a bunch of my units |
| 08:37.22 | HeyRevolver | I just cant remmeber how I did it |
| 08:37.23 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 08:37.25 | Otixa | stabs HeyRevolver |
| 08:37.30 | HeyRevolver | dodges |
| 08:37.33 | HeyRevolver | ohhhhhhhhhhh |
| 08:37.37 | Otixa | ;D |
| 08:37.41 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 08:37.47 | Tinman | I am stabalisious |
| 08:38.17 | HeyRevolver | Xackery knows |
| 08:38.20 | Otixa | I should prolly go stock up on cigs, redbull and soda before the show ;o |
| 08:38.23 | HeyRevolver | he is the one who told me in the first place |
| 08:38.28 | HeyRevolver | what show? |
| 08:38.34 | Otixa | CL, nub |
| 08:38.39 | HeyRevolver | wtf is a CL |
| 08:38.46 | HeyRevolver | does it allow more megawatts? |
| 08:38.49 | Tinman | Its 07:22 hours unti start |
| 08:38.49 | Otixa | Custom Live ¬¬ |
| 08:39.01 | Otixa | Tinman, thought it's 6PM paris time? |
| 08:39.03 | Tinman | until* |
| 08:39.15 | Tinman | 6PM is in a shit load of hours |
| 08:39.15 | Otixa | owait |
| 08:39.21 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 08:39.21 | Otixa | Timezone fail |
| 08:39.22 | Otixa | nvm |
| 08:39.23 | Otixa | ;/ |
| 08:39.45 | Tinman | 16:00 UTC (18:00 CET/GMT+2 - 11:00 EST) |
| 08:39.58 | onetwo | whats a good radius for TD ground units |
| 08:40.01 | onetwo | unit radius |
| 08:40.10 | Tinman | 1? |
| 08:40.16 | ProzaicMuze | 10 |
| 08:40.23 | ProzaicMuze | thousand |
| 08:40.23 | Tinman | 9000 |
| 08:40.25 | onetwo | i made it 0 lol |
| 08:40.27 | Darkarbiter | pi is a good radius |
| 08:40.28 | onetwo | they just stood on one spot |
| 08:40.35 | Darkarbiter | 3.1415 |
| 08:41.01 | Tinman | 3,14159265 to be even more exact |
| 08:41.13 | Otixa | also, Tinman |
| 08:41.22 | Tinman | and lets not go into more decimals, pi is very long |
| 08:41.24 | Nash|327 | new video |
| 08:41.25 | Otixa | Enable voicechat in SC2 so we can actually hear you ingame ;p |
| 08:41.28 | Nash|327 | gonna uploadz |
| 08:41.29 | Darkarbiter | someone googled it |
| 08:41.40 | Tinman | I guess I could |
| 08:41.40 | Otixa | Since like, you say something and we hear it 30sec later on the stream ¬_¬ |
| 08:42.15 | Tinman | I know PI by heart, I am a bot |
| 08:42.22 | Darkarbiter | 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679 8214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196 4428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273 724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146951941511609 |
| 08:42.22 | Otixa | Nubbot :D |
| 08:42.48 | ProzaicMuze | nobody cares about pi |
| 08:42.49 | ProzaicMuze | pi is ghey |
| 08:42.50 | Darkarbiter | 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286 208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481 117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233 786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006 606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146 951941511609433057270365759591953 |
| 08:42.59 | Darkarbiter | you're gay |
| 08:43.07 | ProzaicMuze | I'm heterosexual |
| 08:43.13 | ProzaicMuze | I make love to womenz |
| 08:43.28 | Darkarbiter | they don't love you back though |
| 08:43.30 | Dogmai | ~3.14 |
| 08:43.31 | purl | methinks 3.14 is pi. |
| 08:43.33 | Dogmai | i win |
| 08:43.41 | ProzaicMuze | Good thing I don't need them to :) |
| 08:43.52 | Otixa | roars |
| 08:43.54 | HeyRevolver | that movie is DOPE |
| 08:44.09 | HeyRevolver | he drills his brain |
| 08:44.11 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 08:44.14 | HeyRevolver | what a nub |
| 08:44.17 | Tinman | mmmmmh Pie |
| 08:44.29 | Otixa | HeyRevolver, Oxford Murders? ;o |
| 08:44.31 | onetwo | lol wtf the terrazine container model isnt centered |
| 08:44.37 | onetwo | its off :( |
| 08:44.54 | Dogmai | ive noticed that with quite a few models |
| 08:45.02 | Dogmai | i presume it is because the scv held it in their hand |
| 08:45.05 | Dogmai | so it had to be off |
| 08:45.08 | Dogmai | to look correct |
| 08:45.15 | onetwo | ah |
| 08:45.43 | mike9055 | did somebody say pie? |
| 08:46.06 | Dogmai | you have played the campaign havn't you onetwo |
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| 08:46.19 | onetwo | ive done a fair bit of it |
| 08:46.20 | onetwo | not all |
| 08:46.26 | Dogmai | O_O |
| 08:46.30 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 08:46.33 | Dogmai | shame on you :P |
| 08:46.37 | mike9055 | just got owned on HoN. feels good |
| 08:46.45 | Dogmai | hon? |
| 08:47.14 | mike9055 | heroes of newerth |
| 08:47.19 | mike9055 | DOTA remake |
| 08:47.22 | Dogmai | oh |
| 08:47.24 | Dogmai | yea |
| 08:47.25 | Dogmai | icefrog |
| 08:47.27 | Dogmai | i know mate |
| 08:47.37 | Dogmai | and lol is guinsoo |
| 08:47.41 | Dogmai | they both suck =\ |
| 08:47.48 | Dogmai | lacking art |
| 08:48.01 | Otixa | Badum-tish |
| 08:48.08 | mike9055 | yeah man i was like this is cool, but where the fuck is picaso at |
| 08:48.21 | Dogmai | ha |
| 08:48.29 | Darkarbiter | Ok I think my map might nearly be done |
| 08:48.29 | Dogmai | its why neither of them will ever reach the success of dota |
| 08:48.36 | Dogmai | because they dont have blizzard's artists |
| 08:48.46 | Dogmai | scripting an engine is easy |
| 08:48.47 | Ahmaz | Say I placed a critter called "bunnybunny" on the map editor, If I wanted to access its data, I'd go to the Data tab and search for "bunnybunny" right? |
| 08:48.49 | Dogmai | making it look good is hard |
| 08:48.56 | Otixa | puts goldfish into a mellon |
| 08:48.57 | rrowland | weiners it is |
| 08:49.35 | mike9055 | rrowland: i have you on follow |
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| 08:51.48 | Ahmaz | Okay.. diff Q: I placed Zealot (Prisoner) on the map but I can't find it on the Data tab.. how am I supposed to edit it and stuff? |
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| 08:54.21 | mike9055 | best fruit is easily cantaloupe |
| 08:54.27 | Otixa | I think Tinman is failing ;p |
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| 08:55.11 | Nash|327 | Gonna upload new vid to YouTube and publish new version of map. |
| 08:55.14 | Tinman | Having a issue with my browser, there is a big black box in the corner of it :S |
| 08:55.25 | Ka[L]ekin | Can someone give me a quick indication of the size limit for an array? |
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| 08:55.38 | Zarafu | Mangos are better ;) |
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| 08:56.03 | Nash|327 | arrays have a size limit? |
| 08:56.28 | Zarafu | yes |
| 08:56.32 | Ahmaz | Can someone please answer my Q? D= |
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| 08:56.46 | Zarafu | I think it was something like 5120....something like that |
| 08:57.08 | Zarafu | oh nevermind |
| 08:57.11 | Zarafu | it's 8192 |
| 08:57.16 | pinzu | ye |
| 08:57.18 | Nash|327 | makes more sense |
| 08:57.30 | Zarafu | I knew there was a "1" and a "2" ;) |
| 08:57.31 | pinzu | what about 4 dimensonal arrys |
| 08:57.37 | pinzu | I didnt quite get the limit of those |
| 08:57.55 | Zarafu | you can have a 8192 * 8192 * 8192 * 8192 array |
| 08:58.02 | pinzu | nope |
| 08:58.05 | Otixa | Tinman, use mIRC, nub |
| 08:58.06 | Wartex | hey, does anyone know if a pick every unit in unit group works like a for-loop? If I pick every unit on a map and "kill, wait 1 sec, remove" them, will it pause 1 sec between each unit or just kill all, wait, then remove all? |
| 08:58.06 | pinzu | it will say to big |
| 08:58.20 | Zarafu | ahh |
| 08:58.48 | pinzu | is it like z*y*x*q <= 8192? |
| 08:58.50 | Ka[L]ekin | You sure I can have 8192 * 8192? o.o |
| 08:58.55 | Ka[L]ekin | Ye, I would have figured that as well |
| 08:59.10 | Ka[L]ekin | Whatever the total of all dimensions has to be less than the limit |
| 08:59.12 | Ka[L]ekin | I would think |
| 08:59.17 | pinzu | I can have 1 arry with 8192 but not 2... or 3... |
| 08:59.33 | pinzu | damn I suck at swallowing pills |
| 08:59.40 | Nash|327 | so, Medic keeps healing dead Heros |
| 08:59.59 | Ka[L]ekin | 8192 is very small :/ |
| 09:00.04 | pinzu | well |
| 09:00.08 | Nash|327 | maybe because I set death time to -1 |
| 09:00.11 | Nash|327 | to allow revive |
| 09:00.13 | pinzu | I can |
| 09:00.14 | Ka[L]ekin | Not even large enough to store a piece of info for every block on the map? |
| 09:00.25 | pinzu | I cant come up with anytime where you would need larger thought |
| 09:00.40 | Zarafu | ok, an array of 8192 * 49 is the largest I could get to work |
| 09:00.59 | Tinman | I am using the built in IRC from my browser, that way I dont need a shit load of windows open |
| 09:01.17 | pinzu | hmm, how to make a ball increase speed on a hill? |
| 09:01.19 | Ka[L]ekin | damn, I was hoping I could get an array for 16777216 elements |
| 09:01.20 | Ka[L]ekin | :p |
| 09:01.33 | pinzu | slope* |
| 09:01.35 | Zarafu | what do you need that for? |
| 09:01.43 | pinzu | my map |
| 09:01.46 | pinzu | ?? ;) |
| 09:01.53 | Zarafu | was asking KaLekin |
| 09:02.11 | Ka[L]ekin | Just pondering on some methods of creating a multi level full 3d map |
| 09:02.37 | pinzu | *clueless* |
| 09:02.48 | Ka[L]ekin | Pinzu, think of a building. |
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| 09:02.57 | Ka[L]ekin | has floors you can go up and down and that wrap around over each other |
| 09:03.01 | Icebane | Morning! |
| 09:03.08 | Ka[L]ekin | instead of the flat level of terrain you normally deal with |
| 09:03.57 | pinzu | oh |
| 09:04.39 | pinzu | is the actualy enviromental stuff ingame already |
| 09:04.46 | pinzu | and you just want the loccation of a unit? |
| 09:04.55 | Ka[L]ekin | Hm? |
| 09:04.57 | Ka[L]ekin | no |
| 09:05.07 | pinzu | do you want to arrange everything or just the unit |
| 09:05.11 | Ka[L]ekin | I am thinking, if you wanted to create a 3d world like that |
| 09:05.16 | pinzu | unit(s) |
| 09:05.18 | Ka[L]ekin | you would need some way of recording the surfaces of the world |
| 09:05.23 | Ka[L]ekin | in order to handle collision with it |
| 09:05.45 | Ka[L]ekin | so you could picture the world as a big 3d cube that you chissel the shape out of in an editor |
| 09:05.52 | rulssi | Hey simple thing with data editor, i dublicated unit actor how can i assign it to new unit without it changin all "art - model" "portrait" etc things also |
| 09:06.01 | Ka[L]ekin | and it could transcribe that shape into a 3d array for triggers to handle collision |
| 09:06.02 | pinzu | yes I picture it ;o |
| 09:06.30 | pinzu | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:06.38 | Ahmaz | Wtf? My Zealot |
| 09:06.46 | pinzu | thats the x and y axis |
| 09:06.53 | pinzu | dont know about the z, thought |
| 09:06.53 | Ahmaz | Wtf? My Zealot (Prizoner) is gone from my unit tab + the map |
| 09:07.27 | Zarafu | hey, you guys know the blue glow around small mineral drops that you can find on the map? |
| 09:07.28 | pinzu | and no actual idea of how to set up all of this |
| 09:07.43 | pinzu | Im pondering in what you are doing but in 2D ;) |
| 09:07.45 | Zarafu | is there a way to remove that glow or change its color? and if so, anyone know where in the Data Editor you can do that? |
| 09:09.14 | pinzu | any one here good with physics and formulas? |
| 09:09.17 | Tinman | :O restarted my browser! |
| 09:09.31 | Tinman | Thats like 2 months since last time |
| 09:10.07 | pinzu | what powers should I have in making an object increase/decrease speed |
| 09:10.09 | Rayden | ok |
| 09:10.11 | pinzu | what variables* |
| 09:10.21 | Rayden | why do i spawn as a computer when player 1 is clearly marked as computer? |
| 09:10.35 | Rayden | how do i get my lobby to look like the player properties window? |
| 09:10.40 | Ahmaz | Because you are player 1..? |
| 09:10.48 | pinzu | lol ;d |
| 09:10.51 | Rayden | how do i make player 1 always a computer then? |
| 09:10.51 | pinzu | that made sense =] |
| 09:10.57 | Rayden | is there a tutorial for setting up the lobby? |
| 09:11.02 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 09:12.04 | Motive | Is there any way to raise the entire map by 1 cliff level, universally? |
| 09:12.10 | TheLaughingMan | Well that is interesting |
| 09:12.16 | TheLaughingMan | people are scamming the gold sellers |
| 09:12.18 | Zarafu | there is a terrain "fill tool" which might work |
| 09:12.25 | Zarafu | for WoW? |
| 09:12.26 | Rayden | i found it |
| 09:12.30 | Otixa | TheLaughingMan, how does that work? ;p |
| 09:12.38 | Zarafu | Rayden, link the tutorial please |
| 09:12.46 | TheLaughingMan | Yea, there pretending to sell amazing wow accounts |
| 09:12.51 | Demonette | Otixa! |
| 09:12.53 | Ahmaz | Can anyone help me out here? I can't find my unit Zealot (Prisoner) in the Data Editor... |
| 09:12.57 | Otixa | Hai Demonette :> |
| 09:12.57 | TheLaughingMan | And getting them to transfer money to there paypal |
| 09:13.17 | Rayden | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ |
| 09:13.19 | Demonette | People think i chinese oO |
| 09:13.21 | TheLaughingMan | Then ignoring them and spending the money before it gets disputed |
| 09:13.34 | Otixa | lol |
| 09:13.40 | Zarafu | so then they don't give them the account? |
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| 09:13.43 | Otixa | Demonette, you're chinese! :P |
| 09:13.45 | Zarafu | or the account is just junk? |
| 09:13.55 | TheLaughingMan | No account nothing |
| 09:14.14 | Zarafu | doesn't the buyer ask for any kind of verification or something? |
| 09:14.21 | Zarafu | that sounds like the kind of scam you could do with ANYTHING |
| 09:14.28 | Demonette | No I'm not!! |
| 09:14.33 | Zarafu | not respond and spend the money (just disappear) |
| 09:14.36 | Demonette | I'm not yellow! |
| 09:14.41 | Dogmai | wo zhi dao ni shi zhong gou ren |
| 09:14.44 | Otixa | lol Demonette :D |
| 09:14.46 | TheLaughingMan | Not really, to be honest the buyers are trying to scam by getting the account and disputing it and taking there money back |
| 09:14.47 | Demonette | I'm still ice blue |
| 09:15.23 | Zarafu | really? lol wtf |
| 09:15.51 | Zarafu | so do these "gold farming" companies have like hundreds of computers all playing WoW and making gold to sell? |
| 09:15.55 | Tinman | YAY! I have fixed the Livestream overlay issue, take that BUG! |
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| 09:16.06 | Otixa | Tinman, wut bug? |
| 09:16.18 | Tinman | Where it auto sets to LIVE when its a Re-Run |
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| 09:16.23 | TheLaughingMan_ | But yea |
| 09:16.37 | Zarafu | <Zarafu> so do these "gold farming" companies have like hundreds of computers all playing WoW and making gold to sell? |
| 09:16.38 | Tinman | now it does not change it, so I sat it to re-run and it stays over each clip |
| 09:16.41 | TheLaughingMan_ | There getting like $1,000 of stuff since they have to spend it riht away |
| 09:16.53 | Tinman | that way people wont get confused and think its live when its not |
| 09:17.03 | Otixa | Tinman, good :> |
| 09:17.15 | TheLaughingMan_ | Zarafu, most of them farm 24/7 and buy other people gold |
| 09:17.19 | TheLaughingMan_ | or scam for other peoples gold |
| 09:17.27 | Zarafu | how long do they have to spend the money within? |
| 09:17.43 | TheLaughingMan_ | Well you have till it get disputed |
| 09:17.56 | TheLaughingMan_ | So when they ask for the account info you click buy |
| 09:18.32 | Nash|327 | awesome, Fringe popularity bar is 100% |
| 09:18.45 | Zarafu | nice Nash |
| 09:18.56 | Zarafu | what does clicking Buy do? |
| 09:20.05 | Demonette | it disconnects people... |
| 09:20.16 | pinzu | where is my book with formulas... |
| 09:22.04 | Otixa | Bored |
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| 09:22.37 | Clord | people keep telling me about lobby but I need always tell them that "unless blizzard does something, I can't" |
| 09:22.38 | Clord | XD |
| 09:22.43 | Tordecybombo | can someone tell me why checking the non-custom game attributes doesn't do anything? |
| 09:22.56 | Clord | :9 |
| 09:22.57 | Clord | :) |
| 09:22.59 | Tordecybombo | this is so rage inducing |
| 09:23.03 | Tordecybombo | argh been working on this all day |
| 09:23.27 | Tordecybombo | im trying to figure out a way if blizzard's shitty Custom Category is selected |
| 09:24.11 | Tordecybombo | i'd figure why not compare it's attribute game value |
| 09:24.19 | Tordecybombo | but it doesn't freakin worK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:24.34 | Otixa | Tordecybombo, http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/attribute-game-value/ |
| 09:24.35 | Clord | errrm in melee map case... what is not probably your case... you just would press the button to add all needed categories for default melee |
| 09:24.53 | Tordecybombo | Otixa that's what i just said |
| 09:24.59 | Tordecybombo | but it doesn't work |
| 09:25.00 | Clord | oh you mean that |
| 09:25.01 | Clord | XD |
| 09:25.21 | Tordecybombo | i mad |
| 09:25.23 | Tordecybombo | really mad |
| 09:25.25 | Tordecybombo | extremely mad |
| 09:25.28 | Otixa | Tordecybombo, can't you just compare it to the data table values? ;p |
| 09:25.28 | Tordecybombo | i wanna punch someone |
| 09:25.32 | Tordecybombo | the what |
| 09:25.48 | Otixa | Well, the game mode you wanna use should be in the data table |
| 09:25.49 | Tordecybombo | im desperate, willing to do anything at this point |
| 09:25.59 | Tordecybombo | how do i check for that? |
| 09:26.03 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 09:26.11 | Tordecybombo | DAMNIT |
| 09:26.17 | Tordecybombo | thought you were onto something :( |
| 09:26.35 | Xackery | Sigh. |
| 09:26.42 | Xackery | Hi Tordecybombo. What's the issue? |
| 09:26.50 | Xackery | "Tordecybombo: can someone tell me why checking the non-custom game attributes doesn't do anything?" |
| 09:27.16 | Tordecybombo | im trying to detect if the host selected the "Custom" Category in the lobby while in-game |
| 09:27.26 | Tordecybombo | checking in-game |
| 09:27.31 | Tordecybombo | host selected it int he lobby |
| 09:28.05 | Xackery | Let's seee. |
| 09:28.31 | Tordecybombo | you see i did a simple If (Teams game attribute) != Custom Teams |
| 09:28.36 | Tordecybombo | and that didn't make any difference |
| 09:29.02 | Tordecybombo | the game variant I made defaults to 2 teams |
| 09:29.31 | Tordecybombo | but then i tried it in game and the if condition did NOT pass |
| 09:29.39 | Tordecybombo | im like wtf |
| 09:29.40 | Clord | might be even broken feature... as blizzard made some features just for mappers |
| 09:30.08 | Tordecybombo | and then i tried it the other way |
| 09:30.15 | Tordecybombo | If (Teams game attribute) == 2 Teams |
| 09:30.17 | Tordecybombo | same shit! |
| 09:30.33 | Xackery | Attribute Game Values involve values set once a game variant is set |
| 09:31.11 | Tordecybombo | can you just give me an idea on how I would detect whether the host picked Custom? |
| 09:31.20 | Xackery | You could try locking a game attribute so that it only comes true when they select custom as a indicator |
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| 09:31.51 | Tordecybombo | Well I cant use custom game attributes |
| 09:32.21 | Xackery | What do you mean by can't use? |
| 09:32.52 | Tordecybombo | the "Custom" category doesnt seem to use those custom game attributes |
| 09:33.28 | Darkarbiter | yay |
| 09:33.30 | Darkarbiter | my ultra niche map |
| 09:33.32 | Darkarbiter | is done I think |
| 09:33.35 | Tordecybombo | From Darkarbiter |
| 09:33.38 | Darkarbiter | who here is on SEA? |
| 09:33.40 | Tordecybombo | jo Darlarnoter |
| 09:33.46 | Tordecybombo | hi Darkarbiter |
| 09:33.46 | Ahmaz | I am |
| 09:33.49 | Darkarbiter | yesh? |
| 09:33.54 | Tordecybombo | there are SEA people here? |
| 09:33.56 | Tordecybombo | did not know that |
| 09:34.02 | Ahmaz | Now you do |
| 09:34.05 | Darkarbiter | are you from sea? |
| 09:34.08 | Xackery | I don't know a quick and easy solution Tordecybombo, other than trial and error |
| 09:34.09 | Tordecybombo | what maps are on the top of the popularity list? |
| 09:34.13 | Ahmaz | Me? Yep. |
| 09:34.20 | Xackery | I would have tried as you tested, the whole "Custom Teams" check. |
| 09:34.40 | Xackery | You can always force teams or create a default system if they don't specify the values |
| 09:34.52 | Ahmaz | Tordecybombo: Marine Arena, THE Card Game and SotIS are the ones I can remember |
| 09:35.08 | Darkarbiter | NOTD |
| 09:35.09 | Darkarbiter | nexus wars |
| 09:35.10 | Darkarbiter | stuff like that |
| 09:35.13 | Ahmaz | ^ |
| 09:35.36 | Tordecybombo | mt butt is smelly |
| 09:35.51 | Ahmaz | scratch it? |
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| 09:36.29 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 09:36.36 | SycoPrime | Is there an easier way to edit text entires? Like with filters like how you search through units / data/ etc? Or maybe can it be opened in an external app? |
| 09:36.38 | Nash|327 | YouTube uploads kill mah internets |
| 09:37.19 | Darkarbiter | anyone from SEA here? |
| 09:37.23 | Ahmaz | Me >_> |
| 09:37.39 | Nash|327 | PIRATES OF THE SEA |
| 09:38.26 | Darkarbiter | ahmaz what's your name on sc2? |
| 09:38.37 | Ahmaz | <-- |
| 09:39.02 | Tordecybombo | hi guys |
| 09:39.04 | Tordecybombo | can i get a hug |
| 09:39.09 | Nash|327 | no |
| 09:39.15 | Nash|327 | but you can have a video |
| 09:39.17 | Tordecybombo | meanie :( |
| 09:39.27 | Nash|327 | assuming YouTube stops being fuckslow |
| 09:40.00 | Nash|327 | 60%... 60%... 60%... |
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| 09:40.09 | Nash|327 | 2 min left my ass! |
| 09:40.46 | Nash|327 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkA_JqWD1ws |
| 09:40.48 | Rayden | so i went through this lobby tutorial |
| 09:40.48 | Nash|327 | there |
| 09:40.56 | Rayden | anyone here messed with lobby/game variant stuff? |
| 09:42.16 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 09:42.22 | Rayden | i set it up to be two teams |
| 09:42.27 | Rayden | i locked my two ai positions |
| 09:42.32 | Rayden | i set all the other to be open |
| 09:42.34 | Rayden | 6v6 |
| 09:42.45 | Rayden | i started a game with my friend, i wasn't able to move myself, but i could move him |
| 09:42.48 | Rayden | he couldn't move himself |
| 09:42.56 | Rayden | put us on opposite teams, we ended up on the same team |
| 09:43.08 | pinzu | is there a simple way of removing the movment speed but keeping the spell? |
| 09:43.17 | pinzu | so I could detect rightclicks through issued move order? |
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| 09:43.40 | Rayden | thoughts? |
| 09:43.47 | Rayden | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ |
| 09:43.49 | Rayden | went through part 1 of this |
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| 09:44.15 | Darkarbiter | ahmaz what's your cc |
| 09:44.26 | Ahmaz | 259 |
| 09:44.31 | Tordecybombo | lobby variants are a pain |
| 09:44.41 | Ahmaz | Im not online though, messing with the editor |
| 09:44.46 | Rayden | any suggestions? |
| 09:44.50 | Rayden | i got the two teams in the lobby |
| 09:44.57 | Rayden | but it didn't go into the game |
| 09:45.08 | Darkarbiter | added you ahmaz |
| 09:45.35 | Ahmaz | Whats your cc? |
| 09:45.50 | Darkarbiter | 265 |
| 09:46.01 | pinzu | hmm, nvm I suppose a order unit to stop would do the trick |
| 09:46.50 | Rayden | no suggestions for fixing my lobby issue? |
| 09:47.08 | Nash|327 | lobby is horrible |
| 09:47.14 | Rayden | i know |
| 09:47.17 | Rayden | but i still want to fix it |
| 09:47.21 | Rayden | or else my map is unplayable |
| 09:47.28 | Nash|327 | I'm glad I just got it working decently |
| 09:47.45 | Rayden | all i want is to have two players and have them be on opposite teams without having to fill all the spots |
| 09:48.16 | Nash|327 | :/ |
| 09:48.19 | Rayden | if two people are playing, are they automatically players 1 and 2? |
| 09:48.23 | Rayden | it's not based on lobby position? |
| 09:48.27 | Ahmaz | ^ |
| 09:48.38 | Nash|327 | who knows |
| 09:48.47 | Rayden | do i remember someone saying it's based on the order you entered the game? |
| 09:48.48 | Nash|327 | SC1 lobby was so easy |
| 09:48.54 | Rayden | so there's no way to set up teams? |
| 09:49.39 | Clord | yes |
| 09:49.42 | Clord | lobby is just |
| 09:49.44 | Clord | order people enter to it |
| 09:49.50 | Rayden | wtf |
| 09:50.07 | Clord | let's say first second and third joins to lobby... second leaves.. fourth comes.... fourth player would use slot 2 in-game |
| 09:50.32 | Clord | even if you move player in lobby |
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| 09:50.34 | Clord | it does not matter |
| 09:50.41 | mattavich-377 | morning |
| 09:50.42 | Rayden | wtf wtf |
| 09:50.50 | Rayden | definitely bitching at my blizz friend about that |
| 09:50.51 | Clord | basicaly: SCII custom map lobbies blow |
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| 09:51.11 | Nash|327 | odd players one team, even the other team? |
| 09:51.15 | Ka[L]ekin | It's harder for the map maker |
| 09:51.17 | Ka[L]ekin | Easier for the player |
| 09:51.21 | Walshie | Any here that can help me if my eporting of a model in 3ds max? |
| 09:51.21 | Ka[L]ekin | As it should bne :p |
| 09:51.24 | Rayden | easier for the player? |
| 09:51.34 | Ka[L]ekin | Player doesn't need to worry about his position |
| 09:51.35 | Rayden | from what i can tell, i can't even set it up right |
| 09:51.35 | Ka[L]ekin | You do |
| 09:51.42 | Rayden | players should |
| 09:51.45 | Clord | it is harder of the player as they don't understand it and keep suggesting to fix lobby in my map |
| 09:51.45 | Rayden | so they can control it |
| 09:51.46 | Clord | >_> |
| 09:51.59 | Ka[L]ekin | They can control it if you deem it neccessary by design |
| 09:52.06 | Ka[L]ekin | otherwise they should be required to do as little as possible |
| 09:52.13 | Rayden | so how do i do it? |
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| 09:52.25 | Rayden | how can i grab their position in the lobby? |
| 09:52.29 | Ka[L]ekin | That's for you to figure out. I'm just a player. |
| 09:52.29 | Ka[L]ekin | :P |
| 09:52.29 | Clord | you can't |
| 09:52.37 | Rayden | you don't understand kalekin |
| 09:52.40 | Rayden | it's not easier for the player |
| 09:52.44 | Rayden | it's just not possible to do it sounds like |
| 09:52.54 | Clord | unless blizzard codes lobby differently |
| 09:52.59 | Clord | we can't do crap |
| 09:53.05 | Rayden | and the different isn't player vs developer |
| 09:54.57 | Ka[L]ekin | Okay, what are you trying to do? |
| 09:55.02 | Ka[L]ekin | I have come in sorta half way here. |
| 09:55.10 | Rayden | i have a lobby set up with 2 teams |
| 09:55.16 | Rayden | i want the players in the team 1 section to be on team 1 |
| 09:55.22 | Rayden | and the players in the team 2 section to be in team 2 |
| 09:55.36 | Rayden | but my friend and i play, one of us on each team and we both end up on team 1 |
| 09:56.05 | Clord | you need build map around that crappy lobby to take it account |
| 09:56.11 | Clord | like first player team 1 |
| 09:56.14 | Clord | second team 2 |
| 09:56.15 | Ka[L]ekin | Did you set up the two teams manually in the lobby or have you set your map to use 2 teams? |
| 09:56.16 | Clord | third team 1 |
| 09:56.17 | Clord | XD |
| 09:56.20 | Clord | fourth team 2 |
| 09:56.25 | Helral|Work | You can actually generate the teams ingame, but the player numbers wouldn't match up correctly though. |
| 09:56.38 | Rayden | i set up my map to use two teams |
| 09:56.41 | Ka[L]ekin | In game handling of teams is a possibility |
| 09:56.47 | Ka[L]ekin | but not the cleanest solution |
| 09:56.48 | Rayden | yeah |
| 09:56.51 | Rayden | i might have to |
| 09:56.54 | Rayden | if i can't make the lobby do it |
| 09:56.59 | Clord | my THE Card Game uses triggering to do it :) |
| 09:57.02 | Clord | it detects player count |
| 09:57.03 | Ahmaz | There it fucking goes again... Zealot (Prisoner) disappearing and I'm left with a white blob |
| 09:57.05 | Clord | then assings teams |
| 09:57.07 | pinzu | best way to get the inverted angle? |
| 09:57.21 | Ahmaz | Is that a bug or something? I think it might be a campaign unit |
| 09:57.25 | HP-X|Arthas | Goooood morning |
| 09:57.31 | Ahmaz | Morning Arthas |
| 09:57.32 | Helral|Work | Ahmaz: check the actor linked to the model. |
| 09:57.33 | HP-X|Arthas | Its yet another glorious day at work! |
| 09:57.39 | Clord | hi Arthas |
| 09:57.45 | mattavich-377 | morning |
| 09:57.45 | HP-X|Arthas | hey Ahmaz hey Clord |
| 09:57.48 | HP-X|Arthas | hi kitten! |
| 09:57.51 | Helral|Work | to the unit* |
| 09:57.55 | Helral|Work | heya arthas. |
| 09:57.57 | HP-X|Arthas | and mattavich-377 |
| 09:58.04 | HP-X|Arthas | any exciting news? =O |
| 09:58.06 | Clord | but be cold in Northrend ;) |
| 09:58.07 | Clord | lol |
| 09:58.16 | mattavich-377 | my map could be a full relezse now |
| 09:58.23 | mike9055 | did i seriously just follow you guys into a EM game. ooomg whhhy |
| 09:58.23 | HP-X|Arthas | ay, be cold in sweden too, im on vacation! |
| 09:58.25 | mattavich-377 | but sept 11th -_- |
| 09:58.48 | Tinman | Made any updates to THE Card Game lately Clord |
| 09:58.51 | Rayden | i locked the game to normal, but it's going at faster |
| 09:58.57 | Clord | that Mario project is good example why Mario like game is unpractical for SCII |
| 09:58.58 | Clord | XD |
| 09:59.11 | pinzu | why |
| 09:59.15 | Clord | can't really do that smooth movement for jumping |
| 09:59.16 | Clord | it seems |
| 09:59.19 | pinzu | explain to us simple minded |
| 09:59.19 | Clord | or that lagged a lot |
| 09:59.22 | HP-X|Arthas | I liked the idea but the jumping... horrible :p |
| 09:59.27 | Clord | yeah |
| 09:59.38 | Clord | unless jumping can be made smooth procees and with full control like in real one |
| 09:59.42 | Clord | it just does not work well |
| 09:59.46 | Ahmaz | Helral|Work: I linked it to a zealot and now it's gone from the unit tab in the map editor =\ |
| 09:59.51 | Clord | also goombas got squashed from miles away |
| 10:00.05 | Rayden | wtf |
| 10:00.12 | Rayden | saying the variants Game Type stuff doesn't work at all |
| 10:00.14 | Rayden | it doesn't save |
| 10:00.17 | Rayden | wtfwtfwtf |
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| 10:00.35 | HP-X|Arthas | Is it possible to change mouse pointer? |
| 10:00.39 | vjeux | hey |
| 10:00.42 | Clord | Rayden... how is your mapping experience? |
| 10:00.44 | Clord | XD |
| 10:00.51 | Rayden | i had checked default |
| 10:00.52 | Rayden | who knew it did that |
| 10:00.54 | Rayden | bad tutorial |
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| 10:01.19 | Clord | I see... you needed tutorial for that |
| 10:01.27 | Rayden | nope |
| 10:01.30 | Rayden | still didn't work |
| 10:01.30 | Rayden | ? |
| 10:01.36 | Rayden | the tutorial told me to check default |
| 10:01.39 | Rayden | didn't tell me why |
| 10:01.55 | Clord | game variants.... you can check default and it works fine |
| 10:02.10 | Ahmaz | Somehow or rather, my campaign dependencies got disabled or something since I dont have access to them anymore in the editor... |
| 10:02.21 | Rayden | what does it do? |
| 10:02.24 | Rayden | i can't set any names on it |
| 10:02.28 | Clord | Ahmaz... put campaign ones to top |
| 10:02.29 | Rayden | they all get erased when i click ok |
| 10:02.29 | Clord | in the list |
| 10:02.30 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:02.32 | Ahmaz | It's already added when I created the map though so what should I do >_< |
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| 10:02.51 | pinzu | I cant find the facing anglea ction |
| 10:03.01 | Clord | you can remove them and add again without damaging map |
| 10:03.02 | pinzu | I want to move unit instantly to positon facing X |
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| 10:03.24 | Clord | it even remember where those units was placed XD |
| 10:04.01 | Ahmaz | Thanks Clord, it refreshed with them again |
| 10:04.09 | pinzu | where do I find the change units fancing angle? |
| 10:04.25 | pinzu | nvm |
| 10:04.35 | pinzu | searched angle gave results ;) |
| 10:04.39 | Clord | oh and multiplayer balance mod is useless in list unless you want balance patches to affect your map ^^ |
| 10:04.53 | Clord | personally I removed it |
| 10:05.16 | Rayden | what is S2Game_Internal_Error mean? |
| 10:06.05 | Clord | don't worry lol.... that editor brings error window from every minor detail |
| 10:06.08 | Clord | usually when using data editor |
| 10:06.19 | Rayden | this is in game when i try to test my published map |
| 10:07.13 | Clord | that error usually comes when you do something wrong like try to call variable number what does not exist |
| 10:07.14 | Clord | XD |
| 10:07.18 | Clord | I mean array one |
| 10:08.40 | Rayden | all i've been messing with is variants |
| 10:08.47 | Tofu | hmmmz, trying to get a trainable upgrade per unit on a unit that cant get XP |
| 10:09.05 | Tofu | anyone got a link/short description? |
| 10:09.22 | Rayden | yeah |
| 10:09.22 | pinzu | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.26 | Rayden | my map doesn't work at all on bnet now |
| 10:09.28 | Rayden | i can test offline |
| 10:09.28 | pinzu | this is making the unit face same angle |
| 10:09.35 | pinzu | regardless of where i select..!? |
| 10:10.03 | Helral|Work | pinzu: why not just set the degrees you want it to face? |
| 10:11.49 | hyarion | HP-X|Arthas: http://xorloser.com/?p=338 |
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| 10:11.52 | Rayden | hmm |
| 10:11.59 | Rayden | apparently doing stuff by player color could work |
| 10:13.00 | Ahmaz | Can you turn a unit into a hero with recreating it all over again? |
| 10:13.04 | Ahmaz | without* |
| 10:13.26 | Rayden | go to the flag and check it |
| 10:13.30 | Rayden | what do you mean? |
| 10:13.34 | Rayden | oh, during the game? |
| 10:13.42 | Rayden | i would guess you can do it with triggers |
| 10:13.53 | Ahmaz | I mean |
| 10:13.57 | Ahmaz | Say I make a new unit int he editor |
| 10:14.07 | Ahmaz | And then later decide to make it a hero.. will that affect anything? |
| 10:14.19 | Tordecybombo | a little help here! |
| 10:14.26 | Ahmaz | Because AFAIK Heroes and Units are different >_> |
| 10:15.11 | Rayden | no |
| 10:15.15 | Rayden | it's just a flag |
| 10:15.25 | Ahmaz | Oh, good. |
| 10:15.28 | Ahmaz | Thanks. |
| 10:17.39 | Tordecybombo | HAAAAAAALP |
| 10:17.40 | Tordecybombo | HELP"!!! |
| 10:17.51 | Clord | hero is just flag.... their leveling is just behavior... also their stats are behavior |
| 10:17.52 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:18.08 | Clord | WCIII is way more hard coded |
| 10:18.16 | Clord | but SCII is quite different case |
| 10:18.19 | Rayden | yeah a hero doesn't necessarily level up |
| 10:20.16 | Rayden | is there a way to test my map on bnet without publishing it? |
| 10:20.30 | Ahmaz | Ctrl + F9 |
| 10:20.32 | Ahmaz | :D |
| 10:20.37 | Rayden | *on battlenet* |
| 10:20.42 | Ahmaz | ... |
| 10:20.45 | Rayden | with other players |
| 10:20.50 | Rayden | i can't test the lobby using f9 |
| 10:20.53 | Ahmaz | Guess not |
| 10:21.05 | Rayden | i just want to test my latest version privately |
| 10:21.10 | Rayden | i don't want to have to publish it everytime to do that |
| 10:21.21 | Rayden | i'm going to be on version 300.0 before i actually release |
| 10:21.22 | Helral|Work | Rayden: publish it private, |
| 10:21.44 | Rayden | what does that change? |
| 10:22.03 | Helral|Work | it isn't visible for other players, just you. |
| 10:22.05 | HP-X|Arthas | hyarion: |
| 10:22.07 | Rayden | i still have to do all the work |
| 10:22.07 | HP-X|Arthas | mornin |
| 10:22.12 | Helral|Work | so you can make the map and invite other players. |
| 10:22.14 | HP-X|Arthas | im back in umepå |
| 10:22.23 | HP-X|Arthas | also helral is a cat at work |
| 10:22.47 | HP-X|Arthas | RIDDDDGEEEE RAAAACERRRRRRR |
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| 10:23.16 | Tordecybombo | Uruk-Hai - common Warg - Uruk-Hai mounts Dragon - mighty reptilian creatures, air and ground types Werewolf - servants of Morgoth |
| 10:23.36 | Rayden | this means that if i want to test this map someone else made, just to see how it works, i have to publish ti myself |
| 10:24.41 | Ahmaz | Or ctrl F9 their map... |
| 10:24.46 | Ahmaz | unless you need other people. |
| 10:24.48 | Rayden | i'm testing the LOBBY |
| 10:25.10 | Ahmaz | Why would you test another person's lobby? lol |
| 10:25.13 | Rayden | also why can't i be logged into sc2 and the editor |
| 10:25.17 | Rayden | because i want to see that it works |
| 10:25.21 | Rayden | he says it works |
| 10:25.23 | Rayden | i want to see |
| 10:25.33 | Ahmaz | Ah, k. |
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| 10:28.01 | Ahmaz | Eh? Is there a Zealot called Thalladar in the campaign? |
| 10:28.21 | pinzu | okey, you can now aim |
| 10:28.33 | Ahmaz | Nevermind... |
| 10:28.36 | pinzu | now I need to make so you can chose force applied to object |
| 10:30.07 | Ka[L]ekin | Rayden, you have setup your teams through the editor's Team Placement (Advanced) I assume? |
| 10:31.08 | Rayden | soulwhip's map doesn't work |
| 10:31.09 | Rayden | :( |
| 10:31.20 | Rayden | no |
| 10:31.22 | Rayden | i didn't touch that |
| 10:31.58 | Rayden | i can't even figure out how that screen works |
| 10:32.17 | Ka[L]ekin | I get the feeling that is what you want to use to setup teams |
| 10:32.25 | Ka[L]ekin | Will take a quick look at it |
| 10:32.32 | Rayden | i can't set anything |
| 10:33.21 | Ka[L]ekin | Well I have set mine up quick |
| 10:33.32 | Ka[L]ekin | customer, sec |
| 10:34.33 | HeyRevolver|slee | lol slee |
| 10:34.33 | eH|AnTeevY | hi there, anybody got a solution to my little problem? ;) http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/3422-get-the-other-triggering-unit/ |
| 10:34.45 | Ka[L]ekin | Okay |
| 10:35.01 | Ka[L]ekin | The screen seems fairly simple |
| 10:35.02 | Ahmaz | Why can't I remove a Unit object that I duplicated? |
| 10:35.12 | Ka[L]ekin | Rayden, you have some start locations on your map? |
| 10:35.15 | Rayden | no |
| 10:35.46 | Ka[L]ekin | Lay down start locations for each player |
| 10:35.58 | Ka[L]ekin | so if you want 5 guys on each team |
| 10:36.04 | Rayden | anteevy |
| 10:36.09 | Ka[L]ekin | lay down 5 on the one side, and 5 on the oter |
| 10:36.12 | Rayden | make a trigger that has all your code, but no event |
| 10:36.14 | Helral|Work | eH|AnTeevY: use that acquired thingy in a condition to check if it is one of those that are correct. |
| 10:36.19 | Rayden | then call this from 2 other triggers, one for each of the events |
| 10:36.27 | Helral|Work | eH|AnTeevY: and use any unit in the event |
| 10:36.34 | Rayden | kalekin, what does that do exactly? |
| 10:36.42 | HP-X|Arthas | is crashing every tool available in an instant |
| 10:36.54 | Ka[L]ekin | Uhm, well in a NORMAL map it would be where your command center and units start off at |
| 10:37.00 | Ka[L]ekin | in a custom map, could be used for anything you want |
| 10:37.07 | eH|AnTeevY | @rayden: but then I would still have to set the event to a specific unit in the triggers? |
| 10:37.12 | Ka[L]ekin | My assumption is, without any other triggers, it will simply start the players focus on that point of the ma |
| 10:37.14 | HP-X|Arthas | IRC, check. Network tool, check. web browser, check. phone software, check |
| 10:37.21 | Ka[L]ekin | But you need the start locations to setup your teams |
| 10:37.35 | Rayden | well, if you want two different kinds of behavior, then you'll need 2 types of code |
| 10:37.43 | Rayden | make your code take in an argument depending on which it is |
| 10:37.53 | Rayden | it may not be ideal, but you won't have any duplicate code |
| 10:38.07 | Rayden | ka, i set player start position in triggers |
| 10:38.12 | Rayden | my issue isnt' start location |
| 10:38.16 | Rayden | it's which player they are |
| 10:38.20 | Ka[L]ekin | Rayden, your issue is teams |
| 10:38.24 | Ka[L]ekin | And to create teams |
| 10:38.27 | Ka[L]ekin | you need start locations |
| 10:38.34 | eH|AnTeevY | @helral & rayden: thanks, gonna check it out now |
| 10:38.40 | Rayden | i'll try it |
| 10:38.43 | Rayden | but i do'nt think that's it |
| 10:39.02 | Ka[L]ekin | Well for my lobby I have two teams |
| 10:39.03 | Ka[L]ekin | Good Guys |
| 10:39.05 | Ka[L]ekin | Bady Guys |
| 10:39.08 | Ka[L]ekin | *Bad Guys |
| 10:39.23 | Ka[L]ekin | and seems to work just fine |
| 10:39.27 | Rayden | start locations don't even associate with teams |
| 10:39.28 | Rayden | wtf |
| 10:39.39 | Ka[L]ekin | No, they don't associate with teams |
| 10:39.42 | Rayden | you can move poeple from one team to the other and they work? |
| 10:39.42 | Ka[L]ekin | but teams associate with them |
| 10:39.54 | Rayden | i mean, start location doesn't have a player |
| 10:39.56 | Rayden | like in war3 |
| 10:39.59 | Ka[L]ekin | nope |
| 10:40.16 | Ka[L]ekin | It's just a fancy point |
| 10:40.18 | Ka[L]ekin | :p |
| 10:42.06 | Rayden | so i made two points |
| 10:42.08 | Rayden | one for red and one for blue |
| 10:42.13 | Rayden | and called them red and blue teams |
| 10:42.14 | Rayden | what did that do? |
| 10:42.22 | Ka[L]ekin | called the points red and blue? |
| 10:42.29 | Rayden | sure |
| 10:42.51 | Ka[L]ekin | Well, you can call them whatever you want |
| 10:42.53 | Ka[L]ekin | once you have them placed |
| 10:42.55 | Ka[L]ekin | go to... |
| 10:43.02 | Ka[L]ekin | Map |
| 10:43.08 | Ka[L]ekin | -> Team Placement (Advanced) |
| 10:43.29 | Ka[L]ekin | In the bottom left there should be a little Create Team button. |
| 10:43.42 | Ka[L]ekin | Create a team called whatever you want and assign it the start locations you want |
| 10:43.50 | Rayden | i did that |
| 10:43.50 | Ka[L]ekin | you will need to assign 1 start location for each player you want on the taem |
| 10:43.52 | Rayden | a red and a blue team |
| 10:43.54 | Ka[L]ekin | Okay |
| 10:44.06 | Ahmaz | Is it normal to have 2 copies of something you created? |
| 10:44.06 | HP-X|Arthas | Anyone here knows how libs work? |
| 10:44.07 | Ka[L]ekin | My guess, that should e it. :p |
| 10:44.14 | Rayden | wherehow do i assign players? |
| 10:44.17 | HP-X|Arthas | If I have more or less all variables in a lib |
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| 10:44.32 | HP-X|Arthas | would that make them reachable by normal triggers? |
| 10:44.34 | Ahmaz | I created an object and I'm seeing double.. the only diff I can see is their source (one from my unnamed map and one from liverty.sc2mod?) |
| 10:44.43 | Ka[L]ekin | The players are automatically assigned |
| 10:45.00 | Ka[L]ekin | If you were to host your map as it is |
| 10:45.06 | Ka[L]ekin | you should have a lobby with two teams |
| 10:45.08 | Ka[L]ekin | and a space on each |
| 10:45.21 | Rayden | eh |
| 10:45.22 | Ka[L]ekin | You would use triggers to determine the team of each player |
| 10:45.23 | Rayden | this seems very iffy |
| 10:45.29 | Rayden | it doesn't tell me which player is on which team |
| 10:45.31 | Helral|Work | HP-X|Arthas: you can't call normal triggers and variables used outside a library from within one, but you can call triggers/variables used inside a library from outside it. |
| 10:45.39 | Ka[L]ekin | No, you don't know which player is on which team |
| 10:45.41 | Ka[L]ekin | you use triggers for that |
| 10:45.51 | Ka[L]ekin | customer again |
| 10:45.51 | Ka[L]ekin | sec |
| 10:46.05 | eH|AnTeevY | hmmm "any unit enters a distance of x.x from ANY UNIT" is not possible, is it? |
| 10:46.18 | Rayden | that sounds like it would break the game |
| 10:46.20 | Rayden | what are you doing? |
| 10:46.20 | HP-X|Arthas | Helral|Work: so in theory one could move normal map triggers into a lib and call the one initialization trigger in the lib and skip triggers in the map more or less entirly? |
| 10:46.51 | HP-X|Arthas | or will events like "Unit is selected" not trigger of the library |
| 10:46.51 | eH|AnTeevY | then I could check with a condition that "ANY UNIT" with aquired target to see if it is one of those units i would the event to fire on |
| 10:46.59 | HP-X|Arthas | I suspect not :p |
| 10:47.21 | eH|AnTeevY | want* |
| 10:47.35 | HP-X|Arthas | if not, could one make it into a mod and thus do what I wanna do, have several maps with different terrain all using the triggers from a mod? |
| 10:47.49 | Rayden | it didn't work |
| 10:47.51 | pinzu | Kala, how did your 3d room work out? ;d |
| 10:47.54 | Rayden | i put myself on team 2 and i'm still on team 1 |
| 10:49.11 | eH|AnTeevY | i just want a "if any unit enters a distance of x.x of [unit of type X]" event :/ |
| 10:49.32 | pinzu | any unit enters any unit type? |
| 10:49.41 | Rayden | what is it you are trying to accomplish? |
| 10:50.08 | Tofu | @Anteevy you could do something similar with a behaviour on the unit of type X |
| 10:50.10 | pinzu | depends on what you want to do |
| 10:50.12 | pinzu | for instance |
| 10:50.19 | pinzu | if all units of unit type X are in game when it starts |
| 10:50.48 | eH|AnTeevY | well, there would be around 5 of them, some created during the match |
| 10:51.05 | Rayden | anteevy, what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 10:51.06 | pinzu | you could give them an ability |
| 10:51.12 | eH|AnTeevY | and I want something similar to the watch towers, but with moving units |
| 10:51.20 | pinzu | that effects units within range |
| 10:51.20 | Rayden | what are watch towers? |
| 10:51.26 | Tofu | sensor towers? |
| 10:51.28 | eH|AnTeevY | those, xel'nara... whatever :D |
| 10:51.35 | Tofu | ah |
| 10:51.39 | Rayden | i don't understand |
| 10:51.47 | Tofu | behaviour -> buff -> area search |
| 10:51.50 | Rayden | if you are near a xel naga unit, it provides range? |
| 10:51.52 | pinzu | and when the unit comes under the effect of the ability |
| 10:52.12 | Rayden | yeah, do that |
| 10:52.14 | HP-X|Arthas | hyarion: there? |
| 10:52.32 | eH|AnTeevY | better said, i want to count how many units of a certain type are in range of one of my "sensor" units and show that number over the head |
| 10:53.05 | Rayden | do you know how to write the action? |
| 10:53.33 | pinzu | count units in unitgroup!"? |
| 10:53.38 | Rayden | just do like... |
| 10:53.39 | pinzu | I think that exists* |
| 10:53.48 | eH|AnTeevY | well, i could run that action each second or so |
| 10:53.50 | Rayden | every 1 second, for units in region, etc |
| 10:53.56 | eH|AnTeevY | but that would slow the game down? |
| 10:54.16 | Tofu | everything you write slows the game down |
| 10:54.19 | eH|AnTeevY | :D |
| 10:54.41 | Rayden | leaderboards update often, once a second |
| 10:54.43 | eH|AnTeevY | that's why i thought i would just check when a unit comes close or leaves the region of that unit and then adjust the number |
| 10:54.46 | eH|AnTeevY | hmm okay |
| 10:54.54 | Tofu | seriously, you are looking for a behaviour |
| 10:55.01 | Tofu | data editor |
| 10:55.09 | Tofu | then when you have it all set up |
| 10:55.16 | eH|AnTeevY | guess i'll have to work through beahaviour stuff after all :D |
| 10:55.23 | Rayden | yeah |
| 10:55.26 | Tofu | you will need to tie the events you produce to a text (which is a type of actor) |
| 10:55.29 | Rayden | you can do "any units in region owned by any player" |
| 10:55.39 | Tofu | then bind the actor to your effects |
| 10:55.45 | Rayden | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.49 | Tofu | through the actors effects |
| 10:56.01 | Rayden | but how does he display this number if he uses behaviors? |
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| 10:56.11 | Rayden | oh right, he'd need to move the region with the unit |
| 10:56.12 | Rayden | gross |
| 10:56.16 | eH|AnTeevY | lol |
| 10:56.16 | Tofu | you can retrieve the number from the area search |
| 10:56.26 | Tofu | what you want to do is really not easy |
| 10:56.26 | pinzu | http://pastebin.com/haQFHQ10 |
| 10:56.36 | pinzu | how would I make it slowly move towards P |
| 10:56.42 | pinzu | instead of instantly |
| 10:56.48 | Tofu | but, I suggest you start with the sensor tower radar behaviour |
| 10:56.56 | pinzu | or preferably change the entire thing to something smoother |
| 10:57.02 | Rayden | oh badass |
| 10:57.10 | Rayden | i can make an item that gives radar to my units |
| 10:57.12 | Rayden | cool idea |
| 10:57.19 | eH|AnTeevY | guess i'm gonna try that |
| 10:57.23 | Tofu | isnt every map doing that atm? |
| 10:57.24 | Tofu | :P |
| 10:57.31 | Tofu | I have two radar sources |
| 10:57.33 | Tofu | haha |
| 10:58.09 | pinzu | hmm strange |
| 10:58.20 | Rayden | where does sc2 put maps i downloaded? |
| 10:58.32 | pinzu | 00:02:42.63 Trigger Error in 'gt_UntitledTrigger0022_Func': Could not get 'p2' from parameter in 'AngleBetweenPoints' (value: 65535) |
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| 10:59.02 | pinzu | what is the value 65536`? |
| 10:59.07 | pinzu | and p2? |
| 11:02.24 | Rayden | grr |
| 11:02.26 | Rayden | euro map |
| 11:03.20 | Ka[L]ekin | Pinzu, you want to make the unit blend |
| 11:03.38 | Ka[L]ekin | p2, is basically Y Of (Point) |
| 11:03.43 | Ka[L]ekin | p1 is X Of (Point) |
| 11:03.54 | Ka[L]ekin | It means that you are trying to get the value of a point that has not been initialized |
| 11:04.19 | pinzu | ok |
| 11:04.29 | Ka[L]ekin | I believe this is your problem |
| 11:04.29 | Ka[L]ekin | OrderGetTargetPoint(EventUnitOrder())) - 180.0); |
| 11:04.32 | pinzu | so if point is refered to move order |
| 11:04.47 | pinzu | oh |
| 11:05.04 | Ka[L]ekin | oh wait |
| 11:05.05 | Ka[L]ekin | no |
| 11:05.08 | pinzu | the; - 180.0)? |
| 11:05.09 | Ka[L]ekin | that is not the problem :p |
| 11:05.13 | Ka[L]ekin | *looks* |
| 11:05.16 | pinzu | ^^ |
| 11:05.22 | Ka[L]ekin | I am getting confuzzled by all the brackets |
| 11:05.28 | pinzu | basically |
| 11:05.35 | pinzu | it gets the angle of where you issu order |
| 11:05.43 | pinzu | converts it to the opposit |
| 11:05.52 | pinzu | and from 0.8 of the unit |
| 11:05.54 | pinzu | its an arrow |
| 11:05.59 | pinzu | changing direction around a unit |
| 11:06.00 | Ka[L]ekin | OrderGetTargetPoint(EventUnitOrder())) |
| 11:06.11 | Ka[L]ekin | Does EventUnitOrder return a point? |
| 11:06.23 | Ka[L]ekin | I thought it returns the type of order |
| 11:06.26 | hyarion | HP-X|Arthas: am now |
| 11:06.30 | pinzu | well it works |
| 11:06.36 | pinzu | but sometimes it returns that error message |
| 11:06.39 | pinzu | Oo |
| 11:06.51 | pinzu | when I click on other units |
| 11:08.00 | pinzu | and the "blend" wouldn't work I think |
| 11:08.07 | pinzu | as it moves around a unit |
| 11:08.14 | pinzu | I would need to loop it |
| 11:08.23 | pinzu | but I rather just keep it as is |
| 11:08.23 | pinzu | ;d |
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| 11:10.40 | Ka[L]ekin | well OrderGetTargetPoint(EventUnitOrder())) |
| 11:10.42 | Ka[L]ekin | is your problem |
| 11:10.52 | Ka[L]ekin | that is p2 |
| 11:10.57 | rrowland | done for tonight |
| 11:11.02 | Ka[L]ekin | dunno what the issue is for the order though :p |
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| 11:12.15 | mike9055 | what time do you think you'll get up |
| 11:12.16 | pinzu | kay |
| 11:12.20 | Ka[L]ekin | pinzu, if you want it to move smoothly |
| 11:12.23 | Ka[L]ekin | you need to blend it |
| 11:12.24 | mike9055 | im not even tired for some reason |
| 11:12.29 | pinzu | well the blend wont work |
| 11:12.33 | pinzu | cus it moves around a point |
| 11:12.38 | pinzu | not through it |
| 11:12.43 | pinzu | I think* |
| 11:12.53 | Ka[L]ekin | then you are going to have to have some method of moving it in smaller increments |
| 11:13.08 | Ka[L]ekin | Or not use the MoveInstantly action |
| 11:13.21 | pinzu | yep, it would have to loop |
| 11:13.31 | pinzu | and the current cordinates being the final value |
| 11:13.37 | Ka[L]ekin | Yep. |
| 11:13.41 | pinzu | but the thought of making a flexible loop |
| 11:13.55 | pinzu | makes me sick ;d |
| 11:14.21 | Ka[L]ekin | >_< |
| 11:14.33 | Ka[L]ekin | What is the trigger meant to do exactly? |
| 11:14.42 | Ka[L]ekin | afk a quick sec |
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| 11:15.07 | pinzu | I need a crash course in how to make a dialog with a "hp bar" |
| 11:15.17 | pinzu | tell you when you come back |
| 11:16.17 | HP-X|Arthas | hyarion: |
| 11:16.21 | HP-X|Arthas | now aswell? |
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| 11:17.14 | pinzu | hmm, R apears to always be returning negative values |
| 11:19.31 | hyarion | HP-X|Arthas: mm |
| 11:19.58 | hyarion | HP-X|Arthas: atleast until 3-fika |
| 11:22.03 | Zarafu | anyone know how to turn on timestamps in mIRC? |
| 11:22.04 | Nash|327 | fika D: |
| 11:22.16 | hyarion | fika ftw |
| 11:22.30 | Nash|327 | kaffebröd |
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| 11:22.43 | Zarafu | hey Nash hyarion....are either of you good at terrain? |
| 11:22.45 | hyarion | tårta |
| 11:22.56 | Nash|327 | eh |
| 11:23.15 | Zarafu | are you good at terraining? |
| 11:23.22 | Nash|327 | What is being good? |
| 11:23.34 | hyarion | Zarafu: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=timestamp+mirc&l=1 |
| 11:23.57 | hyarion | Zarafu: what is your question= |
| 11:24.30 | Zarafu | are you good at terraining |
| 11:24.44 | Zarafu | just in general can you make good looking terrain with good ideas |
| 11:24.48 | Zarafu | thanks for the info |
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| 11:25.03 | Nash|327 | that is entirely subjective |
| 11:25.37 | Zarafu | true, but there is a general consensus of what is good and bad |
| 11:25.56 | Nash|327 | Are you asking me what the consensus is? |
| 11:26.08 | Zarafu | no, just where you fit in that consensus |
| 11:26.32 | HP-X|Arthas | Is it possible to change the mousepointer with triggers? |
| 11:26.43 | Nash|327 | I have not sent out a form to find out. |
| 11:26.45 | Zarafu | what the cursor looks like? |
| 11:26.50 | HP-X|Arthas | Yeah |
| 11:26.59 | HP-X|Arthas | I wanna change it to a arrow that can point in 8 directions |
| 11:27.01 | Zarafu | hmmm not sure....I haven't seen it changed in a map yet |
| 11:27.07 | HP-X|Arthas | k |
| 11:27.21 | Zarafu | if anything, I would imagine not triggers, but data editor |
| 11:27.25 | Zarafu | something to do with the UI |
| 11:27.39 | Nash|327 | No survey about my terraining has been produced. |
| 11:27.47 | Zarafu | that's nice Nash |
| 11:27.54 | HP-X|Arthas | hmm |
| 11:27.58 | Nash|327 | So if you're asking me if people think I am good... Well, I can't answer that. |
| 11:27.59 | HP-X|Arthas | will have to look closer when i get home |
| 11:29.30 | Zarafu | hmm...is changing a unit's "Resources" the same as changing its bounty value? |
| 11:31.13 | hyarion | Zarafu: well, never tried it, but how hard can it be ;) |
| 11:31.20 | Darkarbiter | Who here is on SEA? |
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| 11:33.21 | Zarafu | well, I haven't done anything with unit bounties yet, so I still gotta figure out how to check those on the fly |
| 11:36.32 | Clord | well.. you can trigger your own unit bounty system easily with floating numbers |
| 11:36.36 | Clord | that way you have more control |
| 11:36.40 | Clord | and can make it look way better |
| 11:37.29 | Ahmaz | Black spheres: why the eff? |
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| 11:42.15 | slarti | ah just found the new grow game http://shingakunet.com/school/9000226898/9000283703/special/ |
| 11:42.16 | slarti | now i want to make something like that in starcraft :D |
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| 12:02.35 | Ahmaz | I'm stumped.. I've created a new object under Unit in Data editor and when I try to attach an actor; editing token part I can't seem to find the object I created under Unit |
| 12:02.40 | Ahmaz | Help please? |
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| 12:03.54 | ekcolnovkol | in space, nobody can hear you scream |
| 12:04.13 | Ahmaz | slaps ekcolnovkol |
| 12:04.17 | ekcolnovkol | Q_Q |
| 12:04.20 | ekcolnovkol | wees |
| 12:04.22 | Ahmaz | You don't know how hard i'm raging atm >_< |
| 12:04.25 | Ahmaz | Help me lol |
| 12:04.45 | ekcolnovkol | wat is token part |
| 12:05.05 | ekcolnovkol | o |
| 12:05.07 | Ahmaz | Under actor tab, I duplicated say a marine's stuff |
| 12:05.11 | ekcolnovkol | your unit has no identifying category |
| 12:05.28 | Ahmaz | checks |
| 12:05.39 | ekcolnovkol | dubble click your unit and put him into a category like hero/item/unit |
| 12:05.49 | ekcolnovkol | zzz |
| 12:06.04 | Ahmaz | Object type: Unit |
| 12:06.06 | Ahmaz | >.> |
| 12:06.22 | Darkarbiter | who here is SEA |
| 12:06.25 | Darkarbiter | ahmaz come try out my map |
| 12:06.38 | ekcolnovkol | what are you trying to do with the actor |
| 12:06.39 | Ahmaz | Lemme solve this first..lol |
| 12:06.42 | ekcolnovkol | just attach it to the unit? |
| 12:06.44 | Ahmaz | Assign it to the unit >_> |
| 12:06.46 | Ahmaz | Yeah |
| 12:06.59 | ekcolnovkol | unitbirth > unit |
| 12:07.01 | ekcolnovkol | create |
| 12:07.07 | ekcolnovkol | make sure your model is valid |
| 12:07.31 | Ahmaz | Where/what is unitbirth |
| 12:08.14 | ekcolnovkol | because if you change the name of the actor sometimes it changes the model |
| 12:08.18 | ekcolnovkol | look under events |
| 12:08.52 | Ahmaz | For Unit and not Actor right? |
| 12:09.10 | ekcolnovkol | no |
| 12:09.11 | ekcolnovkol | actor |
| 12:09.11 | ekcolnovkol | <_< |
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| 12:10.00 | Ahmaz | I see it under Events - Events + |
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| 12:10.24 | ekcolnovkol | google Bifuu's hero guide |
| 12:10.29 | ekcolnovkol | long list of stuff |
| 12:10.34 | Ahmaz | I haven't changed anything from the Actor side actually.. just duplicated it off another unit |
| 12:10.43 | ekcolnovkol | so your model is invalid |
| 12:10.43 | ekcolnovkol | <_< |
| 12:10.50 | ekcolnovkol | change your model |
| 12:10.55 | ekcolnovkol | bbl |
| 12:10.59 | Ahmaz | cries |
| 12:11.03 | Ahmaz | Alright. |
| 12:19.00 | HP-X|Arthas | ~seen depthsofchaos |
| 12:19.03 | purl | depthsofchaos <~depthsofc@adsl026.adsl.hungarnet.hu> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 18h 32m 58s ago, saying: 'its considered what you set it to :o'. |
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| 12:34.57 | Darkarbiter | Dogmai |
| 12:34.59 | Darkarbiter | come try my map |
| 12:35.00 | Darkarbiter | ahmaz |
| 12:35.02 | Darkarbiter | come try my map |
| 12:50.52 | Tofu | ahmaz, you fix it? |
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| 12:51.01 | Ahmaz | No... |
| 12:51.16 | Ahmaz | I thought its a problem with the model I'm using (Zealot Prisoner) |
| 12:51.22 | Ahmaz | So I'm trying it with standard marine but same problem.. |
| 12:51.31 | Tofu | you made a completely vanilla unit correct? |
| 12:51.39 | Ahmaz | I don't know what I'm doing wrong (these guides aren't helpful either going by the comments of same problems) |
| 12:52.11 | Ahmaz | If by vanilla you mean 1. add new object in Data -> Unit, then yes |
| 12:52.17 | pinzu_ | how do I make a unit use a model of a doodad? |
| 12:52.25 | pinzu_ | more specifically ground props |
| 12:52.34 | Tofu | make an actor, set its art to the doodal model |
| 12:52.40 | Tofu | *doodad |
| 12:53.01 | Tofu | what exactly are you making ahmaz? |
| 12:53.08 | Ahmaz | Just a plain unit/hero >_< |
| 12:53.34 | Tofu | not being funny here |
| 12:53.44 | Tofu | but starting from nothing isnt really the easiest way to begin |
| 12:54.02 | Tofu | generally at the start you want to duplicate something that is pretty similar to whatever you want to have |
| 12:54.20 | Tofu | so, if you were making a zealot style hero |
| 12:54.30 | Tofu | you would duplicate the ealot unit |
| 12:54.38 | Tofu | then when it brings up the checkboxes |
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| 12:55.16 | Ahmaz | I duplicated the actor part but not unit itself... |
| 12:55.33 | Tofu | make sure you make copies of the actors that you want it to display (zealot / zealotattack / zealotdeath |
| 12:55.54 | Tofu | just duplicate the unit. then look at how it works together |
| 12:55.59 | Tofu | befor you start on the ground floot |
| 12:56.02 | Tofu | *floor |
| 12:56.09 | Tofu | you can obviously start from nothing |
| 12:56.15 | Tofu | but since you have no idea where to start |
| 12:56.19 | Tofu | you should prolly follow a guide |
| 12:56.27 | Tofu | and the best guide is an existing unit |
| 12:56.40 | Ahmaz | I am following a guide.. but theyre pretty useless going by the comments as I said.. having similar problems =\ |
| 12:56.46 | Ahmaz | not a guide, the guide * |
| 12:57.15 | Ahmaz | But I just had another idea, what about I duplicate a unit entirely and edit its actor data from there? is that possible? |
| 12:57.26 | Tofu | Thats what I am telling you to do. |
| 12:57.43 | pinzu_ | umm |
| 12:57.51 | pinzu_ | I can't add the Ground props |
| 12:57.55 | pinzu_ | to the model |
| 12:58.01 | pinzu_ | as I can't find it in the avalible list |
| 12:58.32 | Ahmaz | BTW Tofu, can you confirm for me that theres 2 marines (1 from SC2Mod and another from Story.SC2Campaign dependency?) |
| 12:59.24 | Tofu | I dont know the exact number but the story tends to use different units from the multiplayer |
| 12:59.29 | Tofu | they look and act similarly ofc |
| 12:59.46 | Ahmaz | Okie doke. |
| 12:59.51 | Tofu | means they can tweak the multiplayer balance without fucking the campaign |
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| 13:00.34 | Tofu | Model NameSourceRaceParent |
| 13:00.34 | Tofu | Ground Mix JunkLiberty.SC2ModNeutralDoodad |
| 13:00.34 | Tofu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.00 | pinzu_ | ok |
| 13:01.06 | Ahmaz | Oh regarding that previous idea, I should be duplicating everything of that particular unit EXCEPT for Actor right? |
| 13:01.20 | Tofu | You need to duplicate the actor |
| 13:01.29 | Tofu | its pretty much trial and error |
| 13:01.30 | Tofu | but |
| 13:01.39 | Tofu | lets imagine you were making a zealot style hero |
| 13:01.45 | Tofu | you would go to the unit tab |
| 13:01.48 | Aussie123 | my country is fucked in the head, voting against 1gigabit internet |
| 13:01.49 | Ahmaz | Yup |
| 13:02.17 | Darkarbiter | lol true |
| 13:02.21 | Darkarbiter | aussie123 come play my map :P |
| 13:02.33 | Aussie123 | im torrenting ill lag |
| 13:02.36 | Darkarbiter | same with you dogmai and ahmaz |
| 13:02.47 | Ahmaz | Sorry Darkarbiter, busy owning this editor |
| 13:02.49 | Ahmaz | LOL |
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| 13:03.52 | kob012 | hail |
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| 13:04.09 | Ahmaz | waits for Tofu to continue |
| 13:04.15 | Otixa | licks Demonette |
| 13:04.46 | pinzu_ | umm okey I found the actor ground prop |
| 13:04.52 | Tofu | and duplicate it; abilities ONLY zealot charge, ALL three actors, behaviours ONLY zealot charging, effects ONLY psiblades + psiblades dmg, NO models/movers/sounds/upgrades/validators, and ONLY the psiblades weapon |
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| 13:05.24 | Tofu | that gives you a pretty basic unit to fuck around with |
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| 13:05.36 | kob012 | i have a general map editor question |
| 13:06.04 | Ahmaz | Hmm |
| 13:06.24 | Hati | "Dont ask to ask, just ask!" |
| 13:06.26 | kob012 | is there a way to use a brush in a straight direction....like holding shift in photoshop goes in a straight line |
| 13:06.34 | Hati | nope |
| 13:06.36 | Tofu | not that I know of |
| 13:06.41 | Tofu | I suggested it in beta |
| 13:06.43 | Tofu | QQ |
| 13:06.54 | kob012 | ok, and how bout a brush symmetry option? |
| 13:07.00 | Hati | nope |
| 13:07.05 | kob012 | dagum |
| 13:07.08 | Tofu | you cant inmport a heightmap either |
| 13:07.09 | Ahmaz | See |
| 13:07.12 | Ashamed | um what happened to the project section on the fourms? |
| 13:07.17 | Ahmaz | Heres the problem |
| 13:07.21 | Ahmaz | I jsut did what you said |
| 13:07.29 | Hati | Ashamed: merged |
| 13:07.35 | Ahmaz | I alt tab back into map editor and try to find the unit but its not there |
| 13:07.46 | Ashamed | merged with what? |
| 13:07.54 | Hati | with another subforum |
| 13:07.55 | pinzu_ | tofu, I dont understand If I found he actor |
| 13:07.59 | pinzu_ | ground props |
| 13:08.03 | Hati | its under ressources |
| 13:08.04 | pinzu_ | how do I make the unit use it |
| 13:08.08 | Ashamed | WEll obv but which one lol |
| 13:08.24 | Ashamed | under general? |
| 13:08.39 | kob012 | another issue... |
| 13:08.49 | Hati | under resources |
| 13:09.04 | kob012 | i changed an attribute under the models for a structure and the editor froze...is that normal |
| 13:09.04 | Ashamed | oh its right there |
| 13:09.05 | Ashamed | lol |
| 13:09.09 | Ashamed | ty hati lol |
| 13:09.12 | Hati | Resources |
| 13:09.12 | Hati | New posts Tutorials (10 viewing) |
| 13:09.12 | Hati | New posts Project Workplace (10 viewing) |
| 13:09.53 | Ahmaz | Any pointers for duplicated units not showing in map editor? |
| 13:10.07 | Tofu | pinzu, I duplicated it |
| 13:10.11 | Tofu | double clicked it |
| 13:10.18 | Tofu | changed the type from doodad to unit |
| 13:10.23 | Tofu | and you are good to go |
| 13:10.55 | pinzu_ | sry for these questions, but havn't figured out the data editor ;> |
| 13:11.33 | pinzu_ | so, you changed the doodad to a unit or the actor to a unit? ;o |
| 13:11.41 | Tofu | actor |
| 13:11.48 | Tofu | duplicate the actor |
| 13:12.01 | Tofu | then change it from doodad to unit |
| 13:12.12 | Tofu | ahmaz is there anything typed in the search field? |
| 13:12.22 | Tofu | are you looking at the unit tab |
| 13:12.28 | Tofu | if none of these apply |
| 13:12.32 | Hati | missing model |
| 13:12.45 | Ahmaz | Can't be, it's marine.. unless that doesnt exist. |
| 13:12.46 | Hati | #tokens are not duplicated correctly iirc |
| 13:13.04 | Hati | but models are adjusted by #tokens ie ##id## |
| 13:13.08 | Tofu | if you duplicate from the unit duplication it works fine |
| 13:13.09 | Hati | so ... if you duplicate it |
| 13:13.43 | Ahmaz | Heres what I did: open up data editor, search marine, right click -> duplicate > tick all (or choose or w/e) |
| 13:13.55 | Ahmaz | I end up with a copy right? |
| 13:14.03 | Tofu | marine copy |
| 13:14.04 | Tofu | etc |
| 13:14.06 | Ahmaz | Yes. |
| 13:14.17 | Ahmaz | Now, I either give it a unit name or leave it be |
| 13:14.28 | Ahmaz | Either way, I alt tab back into map editor but when I search it, its not there. |
| 13:14.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Pierrot (5a207dbd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.32.125.189) |
| 13:14.46 | Tofu | have you restarted the editor/pc recently? |
| 13:14.55 | Ahmaz | No? |
| 13:15.00 | Tofu | do it and hope it works |
| 13:15.03 | pinzu_ | OMG! :S |
| 13:15.08 | Tofu | cause thats pretty much where you are ending up |
| 13:15.35 | pinzu_ | Where exacly do I find it in the actor :s |
| 13:15.44 | Tofu | ? |
| 13:15.45 | pinzu_ | what am I looking for |
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| 13:15.51 | Pierrot | Hi all |
| 13:15.59 | pinzu_ | to make the unit use the model of ground prop |
| 13:16.03 | Pierrot | I need EU players to test my map |
| 13:16.06 | pinzu_ | u told me to look in actors coppy it |
| 13:16.10 | Pierrot | it is a 15 minutes map |
| 13:16.13 | Tofu | you made the doodad actor into a unit right? |
| 13:16.17 | Tofu | by double clicking it |
| 13:16.20 | Xaragoth | alright folks, i'm back |
| 13:16.20 | Tofu | in the actor list? |
| 13:16.46 | Ahmaz | Named unit 'Noob'.. restarting now.. |
| 13:16.51 | pinzu_ | no, it is categorized as a doodad still |
| 13:16.57 | pinzu_ | I just coppy pasted |
| 13:17.02 | Tofu | double click the actor |
| 13:17.07 | Tofu | where it says doodad |
| 13:17.15 | Tofu | click and change it to unit |
| 13:17.16 | pinzu_ | changed actor type to unit |
| 13:17.26 | pinzu_ | sry. but then what? |
| 13:17.55 | Tofu | now at the very top |
| 13:17.59 | Tofu | it says token : bogus |
| 13:18.02 | Tofu | click the bogus |
| 13:18.06 | Tofu | find your unit |
| 13:19.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (~Raziel@95.76.226.89) |
| 13:19.12 | kob012 | here's an issue... |
| 13:19.14 | RazielZ | Ohi. |
| 13:19.15 | pinzu_ | this token thing is still find in actorss? |
| 13:19.22 | pinzu_ | cus there is no label called token* |
| 13:19.25 | pinzu_ | there* |
| 13:19.52 | Tofu | theres a header : token |
| 13:19.58 | Tofu | under it is Unit name: |
| 13:20.00 | kob012 | for my customer builder unit i have the command card trying to link the button that builds my customer tower...the ability command to build my custom tower isn't showing up under the ability command drop down menu...and ideas? |
| 13:20.14 | Tofu | beside that is the name of the unit (deaults to bogus) |
| 13:21.06 | Tofu | kob, in the build ability |
| 13:21.11 | Tofu | there is a default button |
| 13:21.15 | Ahmaz | The unit i duplicated (zealot) has replaced the original zealot... wtf.. |
| 13:21.18 | Tofu | for each build |
| 13:21.35 | Tofu | you need to set it or it wont let you do the ability command |
| 13:21.58 | RazielZ | I can't wait to start learning map making :3 |
| 13:22.00 | kob012 | you mean the info row? |
| 13:22.04 | Ahmaz | All zealots are called 'Noob' now... |
| 13:22.20 | RazielZ | Ahmaz: hmm.... new map and try again? <.< |
| 13:22.37 | Ahmaz | Screw that, I've been new mapping the whole day |
| 13:22.43 | Ahmaz | Same problem over and over |
| 13:22.53 | RazielZ | Strange, never happened to me |
| 13:23.13 | RazielZ | I happen to get more copies than I want but thye never replace anything |
| 13:23.28 | Ahmaz | sigh. |
| 13:23.37 | RazielZ | >.> |
| 13:23.40 | Ahmaz | Surely this isn't my fault though.. stupid editor |
| 13:23.44 | RazielZ | Oh how about |
| 13:23.44 | Tofu | kob, I actually have no idea how to troubleshoot your problem. |
| 13:23.52 | RazielZ | Duplicate noob and make the original zealot outta him |
| 13:24.06 | Ahmaz | You're not helping RazielZ ... |
| 13:24.09 | RazielZ | ... |
| 13:24.17 | Tofu | you would be better off checking the original build ability and making sure yours mirrors it |
| 13:24.38 | Tofu | if yours differs you need to be sure you are doing it for a reason |
| 13:24.39 | pinzu_ | I have still got no clue what so ever.. |
| 13:24.49 | pinzu_ | ;/ |
| 13:25.57 | Tofu | pinzu, did you find the token field? |
| 13:26.22 | Tofu | Ahmaz, I have no idea whats going wrong with your editor. |
| 13:26.25 | pinzu_ | is it in the small dialog (where I changed the doodad to unit) or in the large list |
| 13:26.28 | pinzu_ | and no* I didn't |
| 13:26.32 | Tofu | I would start from scratch |
| 13:26.36 | Tofu | on a new map |
| 13:26.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster madsquare (~Admin@HSI-KBW-082-212-030-099.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 13:26.44 | Tofu | if that doesnt work |
| 13:26.44 | FahqueL | tofu |
| 13:26.48 | Tofu | go stab blizzard |
| 13:26.51 | FahqueL | you duped a zealot |
| 13:26.55 | Ahmaz | I just duplicated a marine on a new map without any extra dependencies |
| 13:26.58 | FahqueL | and renamed new unit noob |
| 13:27.03 | Ahmaz | Is Unit - Name the field you change to change the unit name? |
| 13:27.08 | FahqueL | now ur original zealots are called noob too? |
| 13:27.12 | FahqueL | correct? |
| 13:27.14 | Ahmaz | FahqueL: I did that, and yes |
| 13:27.20 | FahqueL | i know the fix |
| 13:27.27 | Ahmaz | Do share. |
| 13:27.32 | FahqueL | i had that drive me crazy for like 2 hours |
| 13:27.37 | madsquare | whine at blizzard forums until they change it back. |
| 13:27.38 | Ahmaz | Do share! |
| 13:27.39 | FahqueL | let me open editor |
| 13:27.40 | Ahmaz | >_< |
| 13:27.43 | Tofu | pinzu, so. step by step. |
| 13:27.51 | Ahmaz | Is Unit - Name the field you change to change the unit name? |
| 13:27.51 | pinzu_ | I coppy paste the actor |
| 13:27.54 | Tofu | you duplicate the ground props actor |
| 13:28.00 | pinzu_ | change it to a unit value |
| 13:28.07 | Pierrot | Any EU players who want to test my map Chase the mineral ?? (15min max) |
| 13:28.09 | Tofu | do not duplicate the model while you do that |
| 13:28.18 | pinzu_ | hmm |
| 13:28.18 | Tofu | then double click the actor itself |
| 13:28.23 | FahqueL | go to Units tab |
| 13:28.30 | FahqueL | go to ur original zealot |
| 13:28.33 | Tofu | change the type from doodad to unit in the pop up |
| 13:28.33 | pinzu_ | by that you mean dont coppy paste? |
| 13:28.37 | Tofu | CLOSE the pop up |
| 13:28.45 | FahqueL | open the Unit - Name field on right sdie |
| 13:28.55 | Tofu | highlight the new unit ground props you made |
| 13:28.57 | Tofu | on the right |
| 13:29.03 | Tofu | at the top of the big set of fields |
| 13:29.04 | FahqueL | it should say Unit/Name/Zealot |
| 13:29.06 | Tofu | in the search area |
| 13:29.08 | Tofu | type |
| 13:29.17 | Tofu | Unit Name |
| 13:29.30 | Tofu | there will be two sets of data |
| 13:29.36 | Tofu | a stack of two at the top |
| 13:29.42 | Tofu | and a big empty stack below |
| 13:29.45 | FahqueL | ahmaz u with me? |
| 13:29.47 | Tofu | in the top stack of 2 |
| 13:29.49 | Ahmaz | I am |
| 13:29.49 | madsquare | hey pierrot |
| 13:29.53 | Tofu | you see the unit name bit |
| 13:29.59 | Pierrot | hey madsquare |
| 13:30.00 | Ahmaz | Basically renaming it back to Zealot? |
| 13:30.01 | Tofu | beside it is the bogus |
| 13:30.03 | Tofu | click |
| 13:30.07 | FahqueL | now change it say "Zealot" |
| 13:30.08 | Tofu | change to match your unit |
| 13:30.10 | FahqueL | and press enter |
| 13:30.19 | FahqueL | ur Noob unit will now change to zealot too |
| 13:30.23 | FahqueL | we fix that next |
| 13:30.31 | Ahmaz | ... |
| 13:30.36 | FahqueL | go to Noob Unit, Unit - Name Field |
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| 13:31.08 | FahqueL | under text key make it "Unit/Name/Noob" and give new name under it "Noob" |
| 13:31.10 | pinzu_ | just crashed the edtior - ya |
| 13:31.11 | pinzu_ | y |
| 13:31.34 | FahqueL | what happens is the Unit - Name field doesnt create a new text key when you duplicate (sometimes...) its a bug |
| 13:31.35 | Tofu | when you duplicate a unit pinzu |
| 13:31.40 | Tofu | you are right clicking the actor |
| 13:31.45 | Tofu | then pulling down to duplicate |
| 13:31.46 | Tofu | right? |
| 13:32.06 | FahqueL | did it work? |
| 13:32.58 | pinzu_ | yes |
| 13:33.02 | pinzu_ | it is duplicated |
| 13:33.10 | pinzu_ | should I change its type to "Unit"? |
| 13:33.26 | Tofu | you see that big long list of step by step? |
| 13:33.31 | Tofu | please do them step by step! |
| 13:35.44 | Xaragoth | Saeris |
| 13:35.47 | Xaragoth | ya around? |
| 13:35.54 | pinzu_ | okey, I now see the token and bogus |
| 13:36.03 | Xaragoth | slaps Saeris around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:36.04 | pinzu_ | but searching: cone didnt give anything |
| 13:36.48 | Otixa | stabs Xaragoth |
| 13:37.45 | Xaragoth | dodges and throws a fireball at Otixa. |
| 13:37.49 | Xaragoth | Begone! |
| 13:38.11 | Tofu | searching:cone ? |
| 13:38.27 | Otixa | evades |
| 13:38.53 | Tofu | the dropdown menus only match the last pressed key to the first character in the list |
| 13:38.55 | pinzu_ | yep |
| 13:39.07 | Tofu | dood, stop being vague. |
| 13:39.27 | pinzu_ | in the actor |
| 13:39.28 | Tinman | cloaks |
| 13:39.32 | Tofu | I assume you want to link this actor to a unit you have made called cone? |
| 13:39.33 | pinzu_ | after changing it to a unit |
| 13:39.38 | pinzu_ | yep |
| 13:39.53 | Tofu | and that unit |
| 13:39.53 | Otixa | Tinman, fu! |
| 13:39.57 | Tofu | what do you want it do to? |
| 13:40.01 | Tofu | *to do? |
| 13:40.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster crazyfingers (ae41342b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.65.52.43) |
| 13:40.23 | pinzu_ | just change the model |
| 13:40.29 | pinzu_ | to the ground props* |
| 13:40.39 | pinzu_ | variation 2 |
| 13:41.02 | Tofu | does it move? |
| 13:41.06 | Tofu | does it take dmg? |
| 13:41.07 | pinzu_ | no |
| 13:41.09 | pinzu_ | no |
| 13:41.15 | pinzu_ | just dummy |
| 13:41.26 | pinzu_ | changes angle* |
| 13:41.32 | Tofu | what does it do? |
| 13:41.48 | pinzu_ | its supposed to be created by the player |
| 13:42.00 | Tofu | once created it dies? |
| 13:42.04 | Tinman | calls down a nuke on Otixa |
| 13:42.05 | Tofu | or can die? |
| 13:42.15 | pinzu_ | it does basically nothing, apart from visual aid |
| 13:42.16 | Otixa | evades |
| 13:42.23 | pinzu_ | no nothing |
| 13:42.25 | Tinman | ... NO |
| 13:42.31 | Ashamed | Last day and i get a 10 day vacation :) |
| 13:42.35 | pinzu_ | thats why I am using the Unit cone |
| 13:42.38 | Xaragoth | calls shotgun on the chared earth! |
| 13:42.39 | Tinman | Its a homing nuke |
| 13:43.08 | pinzu_ | well if I could add this in the actor it would be great |
| 13:43.20 | pinzu_ | a aura that effects units within: 0.2 of unit |
| 13:43.43 | pinzu_ | but meh, can't even change the model... |
| 13:44.17 | Tofu | ok, so you need a few things then: heres your list, you already have the actor |
| 13:44.44 | pinzu_ | make it private message so I can coppy paste it |
| 13:45.00 | pinzu_ | without other people interfering please ;) |
| 13:46.35 | Pierrot | any eu player who wants to test my map (15 minutes) |
| 13:47.26 | Xaragoth | what is it exactly? |
| 13:47.30 | Xaragoth | maybe I can spare a few minutes |
| 13:47.32 | Pierrot | chase the mineral |
| 13:47.39 | Xaragoth | so ... moving mineral? |
| 13:47.41 | Pierrot | one p is a mineral life form |
| 13:47.43 | Xaragoth | that runs away? |
| 13:47.46 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 13:47.47 | Xaragoth | sounds good |
| 13:47.47 | Pierrot | other are furious scv |
| 13:47.49 | Xaragoth | i'm in |
| 13:47.57 | Pierrot | pierrot.341 |
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| 13:54.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster Eiviyn (586f9717@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.111.151.23) |
| 13:54.55 | Eiviyn | Hey guys, help me! *annoys otika* |
| 13:55.14 | Eiviyn | Oops, Otixa |
| 13:55.47 | Ahmaz | I figured out part of the problem with white blobs and whatnot |
| 13:55.53 | Icebane | Gooday people! :) |
| 13:56.00 | Ahmaz | If anyone's interested =\ |
| 13:56.11 | Eiviyn | What kind of white blobs? |
| 13:56.16 | Icebane | You mean actors? |
| 13:56.29 | Eiviyn | Aaah actor white blobs |
| 13:56.39 | Eiviyn | I liked my first day with the editor too |
| 13:56.40 | Ahmaz | Well, unit white blobs |
| 13:56.55 | Ahmaz | It's that duplicating process that messes things up |
| 13:57.02 | Eiviyn | "Right, going to make an fps. Oh shi-, where's my ghost, and what is this white blob?" |
| 13:57.04 | Icebane | Well as I know there are some functions in the "Events+" field that can make your model appear a white blob if it is duplicated and things goes wrong |
| 13:57.09 | Eiviyn | The duplication process is fine |
| 13:57.20 | Eiviyn | Just make sure you only copy the unit and it's actor |
| 13:57.34 | Eiviyn | Then all is well |
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| 13:57.43 | Icebane | If you reassign its actor ID it might aswell fuck up "Events+" |
| 13:57.51 | Ahmaz | I just duplicated a marine and its missing models |
| 13:57.58 | Icebane | Did you rename it? |
| 13:57.58 | Eiviyn | Right click marine |
| 13:58.01 | Ahmaz | But if you check everything including models, it fucks it up |
| 13:58.03 | Eiviyn | Click duplicate |
| 13:58.06 | Eiviyn | When the menu comes up |
| 13:58.09 | Eiviyn | Only tick actor |
| 13:58.13 | Eiviyn | That's it, job done |
| 13:58.18 | Eiviyn | Marine with marine actor |
| 13:58.29 | Icebane | Yeah, working just fine |
| 13:58.37 | Eiviyn | Yeah never, ever copy models |
| 13:58.45 | Tofu | if you duplicate the models, then you make new ones and the editor assumes they are located in modeldirectory/modelnamecopy.d3 |
| 13:58.54 | Tofu | so you have to redirect |
| 13:59.07 | Tofu | but I was pretty explicit about not copying the models |
| 13:59.10 | Otixa | stabs Eiviyn |
| 13:59.11 | niemaimprezy | Hi. Simple question: how do I turn off the global lighting from my map, so only dooda lights will be operating? |
| 13:59.14 | Eiviyn | Well, "never, ever" might be a bit strong, but basically copying models is very rarely needed |
| 13:59.17 | Otixa | No, nub >:| |
| 13:59.21 | Icebane | Step 1: duplicate unit along with actor. Step 2: duplicate model. Step 3: assign model to duped unit |
| 13:59.29 | Eiviyn | Niemaimprezy, v or... f? |
| 13:59.46 | Eiviyn | Can't remember the lighting hotkey |
| 13:59.51 | Otixa | pats Eiviyn on the face |
| 14:00.06 | Eiviyn | v is game view though, turn that off and it should use no game lighting |
| 14:00.11 | Ahmaz | No offense, but the idiot with the stickied guide on creating units/heroes should be beheaded for telling everyone to tick all boxes when duplicating. |
| 14:00.12 | niemaimprezy | I mean in game. |
| 14:00.24 | Eiviyn | ...what, there's a guide that says tick everything? |
| 14:00.55 | Otixa | Tinman, is it showtime yet? ¬_¬ |
| 14:00.59 | Ahmaz | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/getting-started-with-galaxy-edit/creating-your/ |
| 14:01.01 | Otixa | I'm bored |
| 14:01.12 | Ahmaz | Even the heroes guide link to that guide |
| 14:01.29 | Icebane | Ahmaz: Yepp, the best way is to create every single part yourself from scrath. That way it doesnt mess up. |
| 14:01.40 | Ahmaz | "Another Window will come up asking what exactly to duplicate, just stick a check box in everything and hit ok. " |
| 14:01.58 | Ahmaz | Thanks for ^&$*^%&ing up my day =( |
| 14:01.59 | Otixa | Ye, make your own models, animations, sounds, textures and particle FX, you faggot >:[ |
| 14:02.08 | Otixa | l2p! |
| 14:02.13 | Icebane | xD! |
| 14:02.17 | Icebane | Hey Otixa! |
| 14:02.20 | Otixa | highfives Icebane |
| 14:02.21 | Icebane | I LOVE your Selenis model! |
| 14:02.23 | FahqueL | [09:59] <Ahmaz> No offense, but the idiot with the stickied guide on creating units/heroes should be beheaded for telling everyone to tick all boxes when duplicating. |
| 14:02.26 | FahqueL | you are correct |
| 14:02.27 | Eiviyn | hah that's idiotic |
| 14:02.34 | Eiviyn | Yeah |
| 14:02.35 | Otixa | Icebane, what? I have no Selendis model D: |
| 14:02.45 | Otixa | I haven't even started planning it yet |
| 14:02.57 | Icebane | http://a.imageshack.us/img834/2001/selendis.jpg ? |
| 14:03.02 | Otixa | Ohhh |
| 14:03.05 | Icebane | That's linked in ventrilo |
| 14:03.06 | Otixa | That's not mine |
| 14:03.11 | Icebane | thought it was reference to your stuff |
| 14:03.12 | Icebane | okey |
| 14:03.15 | Otixa | Someone on the forums linked it requesting a model |
| 14:03.18 | Icebane | wel its really cool tho! ^^ |
| 14:03.27 | Eiviyn | You'd think the captain of a mothership wouldn't dress up like a zealot |
| 14:03.31 | Eiviyn | *carrier |
| 14:03.33 | Otixa | And me and Phaos were thinking of making it real ;p |
| 14:03.43 | HP-X|Arthas | Map concept: Fun w/ furries. Use your firebat to burn all the screens on the map showing furries fucking eachother (noncensored ofc!) You need to be quick enough and make em yiff in hell before they overrun Char |
| 14:04.02 | Icebane | TI think a model of Selendis would be very appreciated =) |
| 14:04.03 | HP-X|Arthas | aka How quick can you get yourself banned |
| 14:04.04 | Otixa | Eiviyn, don't dis teh zealots >:[ |
| 14:04.44 | Icebane | HP-X|Arthas: No it won't get you banned, you just won't be able to publish the map |
| 14:04.55 | Tofu | My cat just pushed a can of beer into the room. Its warm. I'm not sure if that invalidates the cookies for bringing me a beer :( |
| 14:05.28 | HP-X|Arthas | so banned from uploading maps then |
| 14:05.31 | Otixa | MY WIFE FOR HIRE |
| 14:05.32 | Icebane | Tofu: warm can of beer = fail!! COLD is the way! |
| 14:05.38 | HP-X|Arthas | Ill make it a SP map instead |
| 14:05.39 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 14:05.43 | HP-X|Arthas | w/o uloading it! |
| 14:05.45 | Icebane | HP-X|Arthas: Do that! xD |
| 14:06.02 | Otixa | stabs Xaragoth |
| 14:06.06 | Otixa | Wake up, you homo |
| 14:06.08 | Xaragoth | hits Otixa in the face. |
| 14:06.09 | Icebane | Did you hear about the Wc3 Map Sieg Heil that got banned in germany? |
| 14:06.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zachet (9c3812eb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.56.18.235) |
| 14:06.21 | Xaragoth | yeah, well, don't start with nazis here. |
| 14:06.34 | Otixa | hits Xaragoth in the crotch |
| 14:06.35 | Icebane | Oh, chill. I'm just talking about banned maps e tc. |
| 14:06.38 | HP-X|Arthas | well isnt everything nazi banned in germany? |
| 14:06.38 | Otixa | When's play time? >:[ |
| 14:06.40 | Eiviyn | How can it get banned in germany when the maps are hosted locally |
| 14:06.54 | Xaragoth | not everything |
| 14:06.57 | HP-X|Arthas | they cant even show the swaztika (spelling?) in a game |
| 14:07.04 | Xaragoth | yeah |
| 14:07.07 | Xaragoth | but in movies its okay |
| 14:07.08 | Xaragoth | its just games |
| 14:07.16 | HP-X|Arthas | Xaragoth: that I didnt know |
| 14:07.19 | HP-X|Arthas | and that is messed up |
| 14:07.24 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 14:07.26 | Xaragoth | tell me about it |
| 14:07.30 | Icebane | Eiviyn: Can't remember. I just remember myself reading it on a forum some time ago |
| 14:07.36 | Otixa | I should kill all the jews and 1 clown |
| 14:07.37 | Xaragoth | games are in a bad place in germany anyways |
| 14:07.39 | Otixa | nods to self |
| 14:07.44 | HP-X|Arthas | why the clown Otixa ? |
| 14:07.49 | HP-X|Arthas | ;) |
| 14:07.53 | Otixa | See? Noone cares about the jews ¬¬ |
| 14:07.57 | Ahmaz | Finally... duplicating works properly =) Now the issue with campaign dependencies added into the mix... |
| 14:08.03 | HP-X|Arthas | indeed, I dont :p |
| 14:08.13 | HP-X|Arthas | but on the other hand I dont care about anyone else for that matter :D |
| 14:08.18 | Eiviyn | Campaign dependancies are another easy one |
| 14:08.26 | Icebane | Otixa: Doesn't matter if its jews or spanish or w/e. People just don't care at all. |
| 14:08.27 | Eiviyn | Click file |
| 14:08.30 | Eiviyn | New document |
| 14:08.36 | Otixa | Mkay then |
| 14:08.38 | Otixa | New plan |
| 14:08.40 | Eiviyn | There's a drop down menu near the top, above where you choose your tileset |
| 14:08.44 | Eiviyn | Select campaign |
| 14:08.47 | Eiviyn | That's it, finished |
| 14:08.50 | Otixa | I'll kill all people |
| 14:08.52 | Icebane | Otixa: If a nuke landed in Zimbawe and 300,0000 died people is likely not to raise a finger |
| 14:08.54 | Otixa | There :D |
| 14:08.54 | Eiviyn | No messing with dependancies needed |
| 14:08.55 | Ahmaz | campaign tileset? |
| 14:09.00 | Eiviyn | No |
| 14:09.03 | Eiviyn | Above the tileset |
| 14:09.05 | Icebane | Otixa: Be a hero, kill everyone! |
| 14:09.13 | Otixa | grabs his scythe |
| 14:09.21 | Otixa | stabs Icebane |
| 14:09.26 | Zachet | Can anyone explain why the simple logic of- Unit - Zergling [76.73, 190.98] Enters (Triggering region) does not work as an event when the zergling enters any region? |
| 14:09.31 | Otixa | swings scythe at Eiviyn |
| 14:09.36 | Icebane | falls to the ground screaming "FOR THE GREATER GOOD!" |
| 14:09.38 | Otixa | >=] |
| 14:09.45 | Eiviyn | Because the triggering region isn't... there yet |
| 14:09.53 | Eiviyn | You can't have "triggering whatever" in an event |
| 14:10.06 | Eiviyn | The event defines the triggering unit/region/etc |
| 14:10.22 | Zachet | The context of the comments from the ' trigger ' makes me believe it was different... gotcha though |
| 14:10.29 | Icebane | Hey Otixa, I completed the ammunition system today :D |
| 14:10.37 | Ahmaz | Eiviyn: I just did that, When I went to Zealot (Prisoner) its showing transparent blackish blob >.> |
| 14:10.39 | Otixa | gj ;D |
| 14:10.42 | Icebane | Now you can switch back and forth between different kinds of ammu e t c |
| 14:10.43 | Otixa | Did you also add blink? |
| 14:10.46 | Eiviyn | Ahmaz |
| 14:11.00 | Icebane | Nope, I increased the speed and gave them Colossus mover instead |
| 14:11.04 | Otixa | Icebane, also, "ammo" ;p |
| 14:11.08 | Ahmaz | Its a campaign unit i think |
| 14:11.38 | Icebane | Oh yeah, true! ammo* |
| 14:11.51 | Otixa | :> |
| 14:12.03 | Eiviyn | Why is my upload so slow today... |
| 14:12.27 | Eiviyn | Ahmaz - http://a.imageshack.us/img831/5021/itemm.jpg |
| 14:12.39 | Ahmaz | Yep, thats what I did |
| 14:12.46 | Ahmaz | slected it and |
| 14:12.48 | Eiviyn | Then it should work fine? |
| 14:12.49 | Ahmaz | Press OK |
| 14:12.59 | Ahmaz | YOu try it |
| 14:13.00 | Otixa | Is it CustomLive time yet? ¬_¬ |
| 14:13.03 | Eiviyn | What unit was it? |
| 14:13.05 | Otixa | kicks Xaragoth |
| 14:13.05 | Ahmaz | Search for Zealot and select the prisoner unit |
| 14:13.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Kevin@149-169-20-44.nat.asu.edu) |
| 14:13.23 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 14:13.25 | Ahmaz | And try to place it.. |
| 14:13.41 | Ahmaz | Black blobs all round for me |
| 14:13.50 | Otixa | kicks Sixen |
| 14:13.53 | Otixa | Is it CustomLive time yet? ¬_¬ |
| 14:13.59 | Xaragoth | no, it isn't |
| 14:14.08 | Otixa | WHY?! |
| 14:14.18 | Otixa | I'm bored >:[ |
| 14:14.19 | Icebane | Later on today I will go to the neibour town for a feast we have! A public food feast! |
| 14:14.24 | Ahmaz | Well Eiviyn ? |
| 14:14.33 | Icebane | its called food feast but its more like booze feast (with some food) |
| 14:14.36 | HP-X|Arthas | so, confirmed girls in here except for otixa? |
| 14:14.37 | Otixa | Icebane, you fat bastard :P |
| 14:14.41 | HP-X|Arthas | We need to make a list |
| 14:14.47 | Ahmaz | Sign me up Arthas |
| 14:14.49 | Otixa | HP-X|Arthas, fu. I'm a guy ¬_¬ |
| 14:14.55 | Icebane | Otixa: Naah, I'm not very fat, just a lill! I just love food tho! :D |
| 14:14.59 | HP-X|Arthas | Otixa and Ahmaz, we need more |
| 14:15.09 | Eiviyn | Hold on, my upload is terrible for some reason |
| 14:15.12 | HP-X|Arthas | I expect at least 5 girls / 100 users |
| 14:15.26 | Ahmaz | Just tell me what you see lol... its either a black blob or the proper unit model |
| 14:15.28 | Otixa | Icebane, gief food |
| 14:15.29 | HP-X|Arthas | so we should have 5 & 19/20 girls in here |
| 14:15.29 | Icebane | I've never seen Sixen say something live! Only forum posts, therefore I don't believe of his existence. Its just an avatar blizzard made. |
| 14:15.42 | HP-X|Arthas | Icebane: you havent been around long enough then |
| 14:15.52 | HP-X|Arthas | Once he starts you cant make him be quiet :O |
| 14:15.55 | Icebane | HP-X|Arthas: MAYBE he's a bot! |
| 14:15.59 | HP-X|Arthas | Nope |
| 14:16.05 | Icebane | HP-X|Arthas: He's afraid of me! |
| 14:16.07 | HP-X|Arthas | Very much flesh and blood |
| 14:16.07 | Otixa | He's a bot :D |
| 14:16.13 | HP-X|Arthas | ~kick Otixa |
| 14:16.14 | purl | ACTION kicks Otixa |
| 14:16.14 | Icebane | Yeah, definetly |
| 14:16.14 | Otixa | stabs Sixen |
| 14:16.15 | Icebane | Sixen is a bot. |
| 14:16.38 | Eiviyn | Ahmaz - http://a.imageshack.us/img709/1966/itemgs.jpg |
| 14:16.57 | Otixa | Ugliest zealot ever >=[ |
| 14:17.00 | Ahmaz | Well.. Im getting a black blob =\ |
| 14:17.03 | Eiviyn | Try closing the map and re-opening it with the campaign dependancy again |
| 14:17.06 | Tofu | @Ahmaz http://www.youtube.com/user/OneTwoSC#p/c/1788516449CE0BFD/0/75PKVg6YxHw |
| 14:17.10 | Icebane | I hereby declare the fact that Sixen is a bot. A programmed software done by a korean working in a basement. A software all for the good of SC communities and gaming. |
| 14:17.14 | Eiviyn | You know, windows fix, if it doesn't work, turn it off and on again! |
| 14:17.24 | Icebane | We outsmarted Blizzard guys! |
| 14:17.29 | Ahmaz | Closing and reopening now.. |
| 14:17.42 | Eiviyn | You could outsmart blizzard by making a custom map list that works |
| 14:17.44 | Otixa | Ahmaz, you should restart your computer |
| 14:17.57 | Eiviyn | Why the buggery do I need to log in to use the editor now anyway |
| 14:18.01 | Ahmaz | I don't listen to bots. |
| 14:18.03 | Ahmaz | =D |
| 14:18.11 | Icebane | Eiviyn: Lol, yeah that fucking list is so dumb. Retard list #1. |
| 14:18.12 | Pierrot | Hey EU players i m hosting my Map Chase the mineral (a mineral liform Hunt or survival) 15 minutes |
| 14:18.19 | Icebane | And the popularity system is a joke |
| 14:18.33 | Eiviyn | It's fine by design |
| 14:18.39 | Icebane | Every map except for 7-10x is considered MAX POPULARITY! -.- |
| 14:18.40 | Otixa | Poopularity :D |
| 14:18.42 | Eiviyn | The problem is people can/will ONLY use popularity sort |
| 14:18.57 | Ahmaz | thanks Eiviyn - that worked..lol |
| 14:19.12 | Sixen | boop |
| 14:19.19 | Icebane | NOT TRUE! |
| 14:19.20 | Icebane | BOT! |
| 14:19.22 | Sixen | bloop |
| 14:19.28 | Ahmaz | Finally, solved.. just need to murder the author of the guide for screwing newbies like me up. |
| 14:19.39 | Eiviyn | haha, who wrote it? |
| 14:19.40 | Icebane | See? The bot messed up since we outsmarted it. It can only say "bloop" |
| 14:19.42 | Pierrot | Any EU players who have some minutes to help me test my map ? |
| 14:19.43 | Sixen | beep |
| 14:19.46 | Icebane | and beep! |
| 14:19.50 | Otixa | Sixen, bleep bloop blaap |
| 14:19.50 | Sixen | bleep |
| 14:19.54 | Icebane | See!!! |
| 14:19.56 | Icebane | SEEEE! |
| 14:19.57 | Icebane | Its a bot!! |
| 14:20.00 | Sixen | :P |
| 14:20.03 | Ahmaz | Bifuu wrote it |
| 14:20.12 | Eiviyn | I wonder why the zealot prisomer has psi blades |
| 14:20.23 | Eiviyn | Seems a bit dangerous to leave prisoners with their weapons |
| 14:20.36 | Tinman | Pip Pip |
| 14:20.37 | Otixa | Maybe they're implanted :D |
| 14:20.45 | Otixa | Tinman, I'm bored >:[ |
| 14:20.49 | Ahmaz | I find the zealot prisoner model pretty awesome actually.. thank god I can finally get to hero design without running into problems |
| 14:20.52 | HP-X|Arthas | ~sixenkick Otixa |
| 14:20.56 | HP-X|Arthas | :( |
| 14:21.00 | Tinman | The live show starts in less then two hours |
| 14:21.13 | Icebane | Eiviyn: maybe they removed his batteries |
| 14:21.15 | Otixa | Shouldn't we like... go prepare or something? ;p |
| 14:21.18 | Pierrot | Otixa are you on EU or US server ? |
| 14:21.19 | Ahmaz | Thanks Tofu for the link |
| 14:21.26 | Otixa | Pierrot, sikkrit |
| 14:21.32 | Eiviyn | Aren't the batteries for psi blades their.. mind? |
| 14:21.33 | Tinman | I am prepared, I was ready hours ago |
| 14:21.40 | Tinman | what you do is your problem :p |
| 14:22.05 | HP-X|Arthas | Eiviyn: in that case fenix mind sucked |
| 14:22.33 | Eiviyn | I always thought protoss shields and most of their weaponry was powered by their psionic ability |
| 14:22.34 | Otixa | stabs Tinman |
| 14:22.40 | HP-X|Arthas | When the hydra appeared he thought of tentacles, lost his concentration, became horny and died |
| 14:22.51 | Pierrot | any eu player who wants to test my map (15 minutes) ? |
| 14:23.01 | Icebane | Eiviyn: Thats a lie to make protoss sound so hi-tech. Its AAA batteries. |
| 14:23.04 | HP-X|Arthas | Clearly Im correct |
| 14:23.25 | Icebane | Sure Pierrot! |
| 14:23.27 | Icebane | I'm in |
| 14:23.31 | Eiviyn | I only just realised a few days ago that the Stalker unit has a zealot face stuck on the front of it |
| 14:23.31 | Otixa | Icebane, the batteries get inserted into their asses for MAXIMUM POWER HOOAHHH |
| 14:23.32 | Otixa | :D |
| 14:23.37 | Pierrot | pierrot.341 |
| 14:23.55 | Icebane | Eiviyn: Its not a zealot face, its some other face! |
| 14:24.01 | Icebane | Otixa: Yeaaaah! :D |
| 14:24.05 | Eiviyn | Dark templar face! |
| 14:24.16 | Otixa | No, it's fail face >:| |
| 14:24.20 | Eiviyn | I wish that high poly nova model was animated... |
| 14:24.29 | Otixa | I think I need more coffee |
| 14:24.33 | Eiviyn | Or well, had the ingame nova model animations |
| 14:24.36 | Otixa | Eiviyn, it's on the TODO ;p |
| 14:24.40 | Icebane | okey guys so brb, gonna test Pierrots map |
| 14:24.48 | Icebane | Hey Pierrot I'm on ventrilo if you wanna have a chat |
| 14:25.07 | Tinman | Otixa: I dont think your knife is going to be pointy for so much longer, solid tin it pretty rough |
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| 14:25.16 | Eiviyn | Also what happened with nova's hair ingame anyway |
| 14:25.18 | Otixa | Inorite :( |
| 14:25.21 | Eiviyn | In sc:ghost she had anime hair |
| 14:25.25 | Eiviyn | Now she has... normal hair |
| 14:25.27 | Pierrot | i can read/write but speaking engrish is somehow lagging with me |
| 14:25.33 | Eiviyn | Clearly tomfoolery is afoot |
| 14:25.37 | Otixa | Eiviyn, l2reality |
| 14:25.42 | Eiviyn | Yes |
| 14:25.58 | Eiviyn | I'll l2reality for a woman who can use her mind to melt faces and turn invisible |
| 14:26.00 | Icebane | Pierrot: I added ye |
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| 14:26.10 | Eiviyn | Also who has a sniper rifle that barely shoots 50 yards |
| 14:26.23 | Otixa | Blasphemer! |
| 14:26.24 | Otixa | >:[ |
| 14:26.28 | Otixa | burns Eiviyn |
| 14:27.18 | Otixa | Gonna go get moar coffee :D |
| 14:27.27 | HP-X|Arthas | blizzard should do CGI pr0n w kerrigan |
| 14:27.45 | Tinman | Monster ENERGY FTW! |
| 14:27.45 | Tinman | evil product placement also! |
| 14:28.26 | Tinman | HP-X|Arthas: I bet you want some lesbian action with Kerrigan, Nova and the medic |
| 14:28.43 | HP-X|Arthas | fuck the medic |
| 14:28.44 | Tinman | maybe throw the banshee in the mix while at it |
| 14:28.47 | HP-X|Arthas | unless its sc1 medic |
| 14:28.51 | HP-X|Arthas | sc2 looks like crap |
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| 14:28.56 | HP-X|Arthas | prolly a marine who did sexchange |
| 14:29.05 | HP-X|Arthas | but normal kerrigan, infested + nova |
| 14:29.07 | HP-X|Arthas | that im ok w |
| 14:29.08 | Eiviyn | Or perhaps one who isn't 18 years old |
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| 14:29.19 | HP-X|Arthas | 8y is ok w me |
| 14:29.58 | HP-X|Arthas | or 13yo jailbaits |
| 14:30.00 | Tinman | adding some inter racial with Selendis and some zerglings :p |
| 14:30.03 | HP-X|Arthas | \o/ |
| 14:30.22 | Tinman | That would be a creepy movie... |
| 14:30.37 | Tinman | Horror porn |
| 14:32.40 | Otixa | screams out of his eye |
| 14:32.53 | Otixa | Eye scream :D |
| 14:32.59 | Otixa | i.e. I haz icecream :> |
| 14:33.07 | Tinman | I like ice cream |
| 14:33.16 | Eiviyn | Nova has an animation where she pulls out a psiblade and... whacks with it |
| 14:33.30 | Tinman | Its a light sabre! |
| 14:33.59 | Eiviyn | Looks more like a aircraft landing light baton |
| 14:34.09 | Eiviyn | Maybe she's waving down dropships? |
| 14:34.55 | Otixa | smacks Eiviyn with a baton |
| 14:34.57 | Otixa | That. |
| 14:35.05 | Otixa | No Kitkat for you |
| 14:36.38 | Tinman | is un-smackable! |
| 14:36.56 | Otixa | smacks Tinman |
| 14:36.59 | Otixa | NoU |
| 14:37.11 | Tinman | revers slaps Otixa |
| 14:37.22 | Otixa | NoU D:< |
| 14:38.08 | Zachet | What's an ' empty region ' for a function, rather what's the difference between a 'non-empty' region and a 'empty region' =/ |
| 14:38.45 | Eiviyn | How do you make a weapon use a beam instead of a missile? Is there a tutorial anywhere? |
| 14:38.50 | Otixa | Your allies are in battle! |
| 14:38.57 | Zachet | Not my allies! |
| 14:39.01 | Tinman | A empty region is a region with nothing in it? |
| 14:39.10 | Otixa | Base is under attack! |
| 14:39.22 | Eiviyn | I'd imagine the difference is that one is empty |
| 14:39.24 | Tinman | riposte Otixa's comments |
| 14:39.41 | Otixa | Unacceptable warp location! >:[ |
| 14:39.54 | Zachet | so basicially an empty is one with no units, objects, actors, doodads, etc... |
| 14:40.27 | Zachet | That seems silly since it doesn't let you return a non-empty region or ' any region '. |
| 14:41.28 | Icebane | I've been sitting here to much, my back hurts =( |
| 14:41.44 | Icebane | 19 year olds with back problems == Fail |
| 14:41.50 | Otixa | Fail |
| 14:42.08 | Otixa | See, the problem is |
| 14:42.15 | Otixa | I have to either eat all of the icecream |
| 14:42.23 | Otixa | Or go downstairs and put it in the freezer |
| 14:42.25 | Otixa | And I cba ;/ |
| 14:42.32 | Icebane | omg! |
| 14:43.18 | Zachet | So there's no way to have an event detect if X unit enters ANY region =( |
| 14:43.24 | Icebane | Once I didnt shut the door to the freezer very well so the icecream almost melted and became soft. Mom got angry but as a punishment I was forced to eat all the icecream. |
| 14:43.25 | Icebane | xD |
| 14:43.52 | Icebane | Zachet: That doesn't make sense, let me try! |
| 14:44.53 | Icebane | Otixa: so what are you up to? |
| 14:45.22 | Otixa | Eating icecream ;p |
| 14:45.43 | Icebane | Otixa: Sounds aweome! |
| 14:46.16 | Otixa | :P |
| 14:46.25 | Otixa | SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS |
| 14:46.29 | Icebane | Zachet: No thats true, you can't. But you could add one event for each region :P |
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| 14:46.45 | Icebane | Otixa: brb need to fix my hair before I'm off |
| 14:47.02 | Zachet | Well that defeats the purpose Icebane :( I'm making a system that will add a very large grid of regions into arrays |
| 14:47.06 | Otixa | But CL starts soon! |
| 14:47.35 | *** part/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Kevin@149-169-20-44.nat.asu.edu) |
| 14:47.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Kevin@149-169-20-44.nat.asu.edu) |
| 14:47.47 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 14:47.56 | Tinman | Map suggestions go here! http://forums.sc2mapster.com/player-zone/map-review/8885-custom-live/ |
| 14:48.17 | Zachet | I guess I can use a WAIT event but I prefer to avoid these but the map editor seems to leave me with no choice |
| 14:48.18 | Tinman | and CL starts in a hour |
| 14:48.22 | Sixen | nice logo |
| 14:48.31 | Tinman | tyty |
| 14:48.39 | Sixen | ;) |
| 14:49.01 | Tinman | IRTISTIC <- New word, fo' real! |
| 14:49.06 | Xaragoth | vjeux overslept the damn news again |
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| 14:49.17 | Xaragoth | one of these days thats going to cost him dearly |
| 14:49.29 | Zachet | The idea is to have a invisible unit run south, grab each region, add it to a double region array, than have the invisible unit run through the x axis of each region and create a large array of every region for the grid |
| 14:49.39 | Otixa | Xaragoth, burn him |
| 14:49.48 | Xaragoth | thats to nice |
| 14:49.51 | Tinman | Sixen can do it |
| 14:49.56 | Xaragoth | i shall turn him into a fluffy rabbit |
| 14:50.01 | Icebane | Otixa: Doesn't matter, I'm going to a food feast! 8D I will eat so much I'd wish I'd die! |
| 14:50.04 | Xaragoth | and then i shall burn his fluffy fur |
| 14:50.15 | Otixa | lawl, hf Icebane |
| 14:50.16 | Tinman | I have believe in him |
| 14:50.20 | Xaragoth | what shall I eat |
| 14:50.22 | Icebane | Wow, this sixen-bot really is well programmed, commenting and stuff |
| 14:50.40 | Xaragoth | i wanna order something but can't decide |
| 14:50.45 | Icebane | Xaragoth: eaat a t-bone! |
| 14:50.58 | Sixen | I can do what |
| 14:51.02 | Tinman | Eat a check bone! |
| 14:51.04 | Sixen | news CL real quick? |
| 14:51.18 | Tinman | With the video thingeyly |
| 14:51.36 | Tinman | I can get you the correct code |
| 14:51.40 | Xaragoth | guess i'll have to stab vjeux into news rights if he keeps this up |
| 14:51.40 | Xaragoth | :> |
| 14:51.45 | Icebane | Very well then, I'm off! :D |
| 14:51.56 | Icebane | IRC rocks the forums indeed Otixa. |
| 14:51.56 | Otixa | bai o/ |
| 14:52.02 | Otixa | told ya ;p |
| 14:52.07 | Tinman | If you had news rights, it will be spammed with Blind Raven commecials |
| 14:52.09 | Icebane | and I've been here for 24h approx :D |
| 14:52.20 | Icebane | So laters all, you too bot! |
| 14:52.29 | Sixen | CL is up top. |
| 14:52.44 | Otixa | Done eating icecream :D |
| 14:52.51 | Otixa | Tinman, when do we start? |
| 14:53.05 | Tinman | CL starts in about one hour |
| 14:53.24 | Otixa | Slooooe |
| 14:53.53 | Otixa | Sixen, add the damn video feed hing |
| 14:53.54 | Tinman | We need moar mapz suggestions! |
| 14:54.01 | Sixen | The feed is there, Otixa. |
| 14:54.02 | Otixa | Oh, you did <_< |
| 14:54.02 | Tinman | the video is there... |
| 14:54.05 | Sixen | nubcakes |
| 14:54.09 | Otixa | >:| |
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| 14:54.32 | Tinman | is it the right one? |
| 14:54.42 | Tinman | nope |
| 14:54.44 | Tinman | you fail |
| 14:54.49 | DarkRevenant | it is the wrong one |
| 14:54.50 | DarkRevenant | always. |
| 14:55.09 | Tinman | this is the right channel: http://www.livestream.com/sc2customlive?t=196853 |
| 14:55.36 | Tinman | It is branded with the CL logo! |
| 14:55.41 | Tinman | that means its official! |
| 14:55.48 | Tinman | and it has no viewer limit |
| 14:55.50 | DarkRevenant | xaragoth's gaming channel |
| 14:55.53 | Tinman | hurray |
| 14:56.31 | DarkRevenant | or alternatively |
| 14:56.34 | DarkRevenant | you can use http://plus4chan.org/tv/fullstream.php?channel=sc2customlive |
| 14:57.51 | Tinman | This is the code you are looking for: <iframe src="http://www.livestream.com/embed/sc2customlive?layout=2" width="928px" height="920px" style="border:0;outline:0;" frameborder=0 scrolling="none"></iframe> |
| 14:58.13 | Tinman | Sixen live! |
| 14:59.13 | Otixa | Sixen >:[ |
| 14:59.30 | Tinman | Thats poor! |
| 14:59.44 | Tinman | eat poo poo Sixen! |
| 14:59.53 | Otixa | Can't do anything right >:[ |
| 15:00.05 | Sixen | wut |
| 15:01.08 | Tinman | You have posted the wrong stream |
| 15:01.08 | Sixen | yeah, I fixed it |
| 15:01.08 | Tinman | ok! |
| 15:01.08 | Sixen | All I did was change the date and logo on the older announcement so it showed up top. |
| 15:01.13 | Otixa | Tinman, tell the guys on the other stream to refresh |
| 15:01.20 | Tinman | I did |
| 15:01.45 | Clord | Sixen!!!!!!! |
| 15:01.47 | Clord | XD |
| 15:01.52 | Sixen | hai clord~ |
| 15:01.56 | Tofu | before I admit defeat and just make a morph. Does anyone know how to make a trainable ability that has a "learn time" for a unit which does not have experience? |
| 15:01.56 | Clord | reminds of cop action movies |
| 15:01.58 | Clord | ^^ |
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| 15:03.16 | Tinman | Sixen failed again... |
| 15:03.35 | depthsofchaos | does anyone know if its possible to give an owner to a behaviour ?:o |
| 15:03.44 | Tinman | <iframe src="http://www.livestream.com/embed/sc2customlive?layout=2" width="600px" height="800px" style="border:0;outline:0;" frameborder=0 scrolling="none"></iframe> |
| 15:03.44 | Tinman | Try that code |
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| 15:03.53 | Tinman | the maximum width of the news page is 600px |
| 15:04.32 | Tinman | slaps Sixen around a little bit, just to stress him up |
| 15:04.41 | AsaPhelps | what do you mean depth |
| 15:05.10 | Tofu | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.12 | depthsofchaos | i want a behaviour to be linked to the player that placed it |
| 15:05.41 | Sixen | what? |
| 15:05.45 | Sixen | I copy and pasted what you gave me |
| 15:05.56 | depthsofchaos | so allow the same behaviour to be placed 8 times if theres 8 player :o |
| 15:06.00 | Tinman | Copy pat the new one! |
| 15:06.07 | Tinman | paste* |
| 15:06.15 | Tinman | patting the code might also help though |
| 15:07.16 | Tinman | still a little to wide... vj said it was 600px... |
| 15:07.32 | Tinman | that liar, try to change the number 600 to 550 or so |
| 15:07.49 | Tinman | or 580 |
| 15:08.15 | Tofu | I have not found a method of owning a behaviour |
| 15:09.52 | Sixen | okay, all fixed. |
| 15:10.08 | Sixen | Well, 650 would've fit |
| 15:10.10 | Sixen | but barely, :p |
| 15:11.37 | Otixa | Tinman, tell Livestream that the stream is lagging >:| |
| 15:12.02 | Zachet | So I am trying to make a double array of regions... for a XY GRID of regions for games such as Chess, Go, Checkers and other uses... I am not finding an easy way to do this. Initial idea was to have a unit run through each location and add triggering location to the array position. There appears to be no way to make a triggering region based on the unit entering one... any ideas? |
| 15:16.35 | Azu-Nyan | oh |
| 15:16.41 | Azu-Nyan | custom live :x |
| 15:18.00 | Hati | its a rerun |
| 15:18.10 | Azu-Nyan | meh |
| 15:18.10 | Azu-Nyan | scam |
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| 15:21.29 | AsaPhelps | depth if you want units to hav e more health or whatever from number of players |
| 15:21.41 | AsaPhelps | you could give them an aura that applies stackable behaviors |
| 15:22.05 | depthsofchaos | nope i need to know which players visited a certain unit |
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| 15:23.30 | depthsofchaos | without storing every unit that was visited :o |
| 15:26.56 | AsaPhelps | you could make a validator by player number maybe |
| 15:27.23 | AsaPhelps | why can't they all have the same behavior |
| 15:28.05 | depthsofchaos | a validator for what :o |
| 15:28.32 | Otixa | Tinman |
| 15:28.35 | Otixa | stabs Tinman |
| 15:28.47 | Otixa | wake up |
| 15:31.52 | Clord | ~seen ekcolnovkol|afk |
| 15:31.53 | purl | ekcolnovkol|afk is currently on #sc2mapster, last said: ':U'. |
| 15:32.15 | Clord | ekcolnovkol|afk is alive? XD |
| 15:32.26 | Clord | oh yes |
| 15:32.27 | Clord | he is afk |
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| 15:33.21 | AsaPhelps | validor for player number maybe |
| 15:33.33 | depthsofchaos | im not sure what happens if 2 players cast the same behaiour on something |
| 15:33.34 | AsaPhelps | why doesn't it have to be a unique behavior |
| 15:33.46 | depthsofchaos | no such validator |
| 15:34.08 | depthsofchaos | cant give numbers to behaviour either |
| 15:34.20 | Tinman | http://thejailbreak.com/2010/08/22/wookie-the-pooh/ |
| 15:34.24 | AsaPhelps | i don't think the behavior duration refreshes |
| 15:34.37 | Tinman | wake up for what... |
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| 15:38.00 | crazyfingers | anyone know how i'd go about making my unit's speed random through the data editor? |
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| 15:44.29 | tbye | Where's the ultimate compendium of keyboard shortcuts for camera views when using the terrain editor? I'd like to switch between game view and full map view frequently. |
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| 15:47.33 | Zachet | So can someone else confirm for me that it is IMPOSSIBLE to obtain what region a unit is in or enters without specying the region itself? |
| 15:48.16 | tbye | Zachet: Ya, I've been trying to do something like (triggering unit) enters (triggering region) |
| 15:48.21 | tbye | no love |
| 15:48.31 | Zachet | sad face |
| 15:48.55 | tbye | no triggering set until after the unit hits... so I test per region... if region == (foo region) |
| 15:50.05 | Zachet | I am trying to make an array of regions, was going to have a unit run through every region and add every region it hits to the array... |
| 15:50.16 | depthsofchaos | well what i use is a search area to counter this |
| 15:50.49 | tbye | Zachet: Here's a snap of mine (you can see the triggering region attempt). http://www.protoven.com/skitch/Triggers_-_%5B_Users_tbye_sc2dev_vidtest.SC2Map%5D_-_StarCraft_II_Editor-20100827-095003.png I too have an array of regions. |
| 15:51.13 | SweetZombieJezus | argh |
| 15:51.21 | SweetZombieJezus | which UI frame is the big thing on the bottom? |
| 15:52.51 | Ka[L]ekin | You have to test it against each region in your array of regions |
| 15:53.21 | tbye | is there a keyboard shortcut to show the full map (overhead) view? I have a menuitem... but no shortcut |
| 15:53.31 | Ka[L]ekin | no idea >_< |
| 15:55.22 | rooj | lol i keep deleting this unit in the data editor, but it keeps popping back up O_O; |
| 15:56.00 | Tolkfan | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/608631413 I want this kind of topic on the EU forums :[ |
| 16:02.37 | Zachet | Well, see I have a grid of regions on the actual map, of about 500 seperate regions... adding each one manually is not acceptable really =/ |
| 16:02.54 | Eiviyn | Tolkfan, you'd better get used to the EU forums being useless |
| 16:03.06 | Eiviyn | If WoW is anything to go by |
| 16:03.13 | Eiviyn | They'll just ignore the EU forums entirely |
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| 16:14.00 | AsaPhelps | that forum is all full of people with stupid questions and hopes that will never become true |
| 16:14.07 | AsaPhelps | thread I mean |
| 16:14.25 | Vail | what thread? |
| 16:14.55 | AsaPhelps | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/608631413 |
| 16:15.34 | Zachet | Hmmies |
| 16:15.47 | Zachet | I wish my hope would come true. |
| 16:16.20 | AsaPhelps | whats your wish |
| 16:16.40 | Zachet | The ability to use, ' Any Unit Enters Any Region ' for Triggering Region =/ |
| 16:16.45 | Zachet | HAve to manually add all 500 regions on my map =/ |
| 16:16.52 | Zachet | Any region doesn't exist |
| 16:17.28 | HP-X|Arthas | hyarion: ive ordered this: http://6dollarshirts.com/t-shirts/Glory-Glove-Its-So-Bad-p-11371.html |
| 16:17.31 | HP-X|Arthas | :D |
| 16:17.38 | HP-X|Arthas | and pedobear shirt |
| 16:17.42 | HP-X|Arthas | and lebowski one! |
| 16:18.51 | AsaPhelps | i'd wear a pedobear shirt |
| 16:18.58 | Zachet | Perhaps I will delete all 500 triggers and add a relative coordinates based on a center unit grid system... would take a bit of math though |
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| 16:19.30 | Azu-Nyan | HP-X|Arthas give me the pedobear shirt (y) |
| 16:19.30 | AsaPhelps | math is gross |
| 16:19.31 | Zachet | I don't like math, damn you blizzard! |
| 16:19.40 | HP-X|Arthas | AsaPhelps: ofc |
| 16:19.48 | AsaPhelps | you have died of dynestary |
| 16:19.58 | AsaPhelps | dysentery |
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| 16:27.56 | Vail | i wish they would fix the issue with atributes and burrowed unit stats |
| 16:30.08 | AsaPhelps | burrowed units are separate units |
| 16:30.17 | Vail | yes |
| 16:30.59 | Vail | but when you give them both the same veterancy and atributes behaviors the atributes that add energy to the burrowed units have an issue |
| 16:32.33 | Vail | when ever the unit is switched with the the other ( burrowed or unburrowd ) the units enegry resets to the maximum specified in the units vitals feilds |
| 16:32.36 | depthsofchaos | does the veterancy get saved between the morhp ?:o |
| 16:32.42 | Vail | yes |
| 16:33.12 | Vail | as long as they have the same verterancy |
| 16:34.03 | depthsofchaos | i wonder if every behaviour is saved |
| 16:34.07 | jorgenpt | Zachet: Are all your regions in your map equal? |
| 16:34.19 | Zachet | Equal in size, yes. |
| 16:34.25 | jorgenpt | Zachet: But equal in function |
| 16:34.38 | Zachet | No, they have to be seperate for positional purposes. |
| 16:34.56 | jorgenpt | I mean, should they all trigger the same trigger? |
| 16:35.27 | Zachet | To... a degree? |
| 16:35.33 | Zachet | Let's say yes |
| 16:35.45 | jorgenpt | You can use custom script to set up the events for triggers. |
| 16:35.54 | jorgenpt | It allows you to use a while loop to iterate over all the triggers in your map. |
| 16:35.57 | jorgenpt | s/triggers/regions/ |
| 16:36.08 | jorgenpt | Regions are specified by id number in the underlying script. |
| 16:36.22 | Zachet | ahhhh |
| 16:36.31 | jorgenpt | There's no easy way to change the id number of a region or find the name associated with an id number, from the script. |
| 16:36.44 | Zachet | if I could do that I could add them all to an array with a while look correct? |
| 16:36.51 | Zachet | loop* |
| 16:36.57 | jorgenpt | So either you have to manually find the id numbers and add exceptions for them in your code, or you have to find what the continuous block of region ids are. |
| 16:37.11 | jorgenpt | Region ids are also assigned in sequence (1, 2, ..) |
| 16:37.15 | jorgenpt | Yeah |
| 16:37.29 | jorgenpt | Or you could add a trigger that has events for each of them. |
| 16:37.30 | jorgenpt | Brb. |
| 16:38.44 | Zachet | How do I alter/view/modify the 'underlying script' I assume there's a third party program, is there a name so I can do a google search? |
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| 16:41.15 | jorgenpt | Zachet: It's referred to as Custom Script in the editor |
| 16:41.22 | jorgenpt | Zachet: Data > View Script to view the current script. |
| 16:41.29 | jorgenpt | If you want me to, I can write it for you. |
| 16:41.41 | Zachet | Holy crap, I've never seen that before >.< |
| 16:41.58 | jorgenpt | You can add almost anything as Custom Script. |
| 16:42.04 | Zachet | Beautiful. |
| 16:42.06 | jorgenpt | Actions, Functions, Triggers, etc. |
| 16:42.46 | jorgenpt | Zachet: What you should do: Create a trigger, make it have events Unit Enters Region <first region> and Unit Enters Region <last region> |
| 16:42.58 | jorgenpt | Zachet: Then look at the generated gt_YourTrigger_Init function |
| 16:43.07 | jorgenpt | Zachet: That's the functionality you'd want to change. :) |
| 16:45.09 | Fromethius | what's a good name for a dark templar ability that can turn someone invisible for 10 seconds |
| 16:45.17 | Fromethius | i'm so uncreative.. lol |
| 16:45.53 | Zachet | Light Distortion... Smoke Screen... ummm |
| 16:45.58 | jorgenpt | Robes of the Dark |
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| 16:46.44 | jorgenpt | Or Embrace of the Void :-p |
| 16:46.52 | Clepto | Why is the Lurker (when created through triggers) auto burrow right away? What do I need to do to get rid of this so it doesn't auto burrow? |
| 16:47.29 | depthsofchaos | try removing its ai :o |
| 16:47.36 | Clepto | ahh ok |
| 16:47.44 | Zachet | Well the whole point of ' unit entering any ' was to create a method to of having a unit run through every region to add it to a double array for a XY region grid... I assume I can make it on intilization... loop through each region from id and add it to the array... just a matter of adding it correctly so it matches the XY position via ID |
| 16:47.46 | depthsofchaos | just a guess |
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| 16:48.25 | Zachet | jorgenpt: Thank you by the way :) |
| 16:48.58 | jorgenpt | Zachet: Not a problem. Let me know if you have any questions. :) |
| 16:49.05 | jorgenpt | The compiler is pretty bad at telling you what you're doing wrong ;) |
| 16:49.08 | tbye | If I have an array of regions... and I fetch one of those regions... can I get its name... in other words... how could I get the result of something like this? regions[0].name |
| 16:49.21 | jorgenpt | tbye: As far as I know, it's not possible. :( |
| 16:49.33 | tbye | jorgenpt: okay... thanks... what a pisser |
| 16:50.15 | Clepto | Even with the AI removed the Lurker still burrows when created through a trigger... Any other ideas so that it doesnt' auto burrow? |
| 16:50.22 | jorgenpt | It would make my region- & point-based initialization easier. :) |
| 16:50.27 | tbye | Is it possible... given a region to get its index in an array it is in? |
| 16:50.31 | jorgenpt | Clepto: Are you creating the burrowed variation? |
| 16:50.37 | jorgenpt | tbye: While loop :-) |
| 16:50.42 | Clepto | no i checked that |
| 16:50.53 | jorgenpt | tbye: Iterate over every item in the array, compare them to the region you have |
| 16:51.01 | Clepto | creating the unburrowed you can even watch it burrow when its created |
| 16:51.06 | jorgenpt | Aha |
| 16:51.21 | tbye | k... I was hoping for something a little better than O(n) |
| 16:51.50 | Clepto | i was thinking maybe something in the actor events thats causing it to do that but Im not to sure how to read events+ very well and I dont want to erase something that is important |
| 16:52.08 | jorgenpt | tbye: Write your own hashing function. |
| 16:52.43 | tbye | jorgenpt: That's not a bad idea... can we use arbitrary indexes into an array? |
| 16:52.56 | jorgenpt | tbye: Are you asking if you have to initialize every item in an array? |
| 16:53.18 | jorgenpt | tbye: They're per default initialized to 0 / null. Arrays are constant size and not resizable. |
| 16:53.37 | jorgenpt | tbye: You can use any index in it, yes. You'd detect unused "slots" with comparison to "No Region" |
| 16:53.39 | tbye | I'm asking if I can say array[3] but then array[100]= foo, array[200] = bar, array[300] = baz |
| 16:53.53 | tbye | okay, that might work. |
| 16:53.57 | jorgenpt | tbye: array has to be at least size 301 for that to work. |
| 16:54.20 | tbye | okay... so that will work, but not the way I want it to. |
| 16:54.31 | jorgenpt | tbye: So you have to make a hashing algorithm that is aware of the bounds of the array. You could also use a struct and implement a linked list-esque way of storing it. |
| 16:54.33 | tbye | would love python style dicts |
| 16:54.50 | jorgenpt | tbye: Where the struct (Record) is Region region, int next_slot; |
| 16:55.04 | jorgenpt | And have an overflow array. |
| 16:55.07 | tbye | jorgenpt: Ya, I hear you. So my struct ... ya... pseudo pointer to next region |
| 16:55.09 | jorgenpt | Or just use the next slot in the array. |
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| 16:55.42 | jorgenpt | But there are books written on this, I won't pretend to know more than the basics. :) |
| 16:55.42 | tbye | and with knowledge of the size of the array I can loop around when I hit array[size-1] |
| 16:55.50 | Clepto | so does anyone know how to prevent the lurker from auto burrowing after created via a trigger? |
| 16:56.04 | jorgenpt | Right, use a constant int variable and do (index + 1) % size |
| 16:56.11 | azala | clep, do you have burrow on autocast? |
| 16:56.20 | tbye | jorgenpt: cool... thanks for the help |
| 16:56.21 | azala | check the ability |
| 16:56.26 | Clepto | i can check i haven't altered burrow at all |
| 16:56.27 | jorgenpt | No problem, good luck. Let me know how it works. :) |
| 16:56.38 | azala | ive used a lurker mod and it worked fine |
| 16:56.41 | azala | never seen that one before. |
| 16:57.03 | azala | i dont remember where the autocast option is, it might be on the unit |
| 16:57.22 | Clepto | ya this is wierd |
| 16:57.27 | Clepto | and no its not on autocast |
| 16:57.32 | azala | damn. |
| 16:57.36 | azala | then im out of ideas |
| 16:57.44 | depthsofchaos | funny i am shown online and available on bnet when im logged in from the editor :o |
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| 16:58.07 | jorgenpt | depthsofchaos: Yeah, it's pretty broken. |
| 16:58.13 | Driscoll | hey, whats the way to give a team shared units in the editor? |
| 16:58.14 | jorgenpt | depthsofchaos: All your privmessages just disappear. :-p |
| 16:58.41 | Clepto | thanks anyways for your help |
| 16:58.47 | depthsofchaos | anoying why do i have to log in to use editor |
| 16:58.50 | depthsofchaos | stupidest thing |
| 16:59.09 | jorgenpt | Not to use it |
| 16:59.13 | jorgenpt | Just to publish :-p |
| 16:59.15 | jorgenpt | And open b.net maps |
| 16:59.22 | depthsofchaos | no, i have to log in at each start |
| 16:59.28 | Eiviyn | Prompts me to log on every time I open it |
| 16:59.29 | jorgenpt | Really? |
| 16:59.31 | jorgenpt | I don't. :o |
| 16:59.38 | depthsofchaos | wut O.o |
| 16:59.43 | jorgenpt | I run Mac, though. ;-) |
| 16:59.53 | Eiviyn | Fail! |
| 16:59.54 | jorgenpt | But yeah, it asks me to authorize whenever it patches |
| 17:00.02 | jorgenpt | Which means login. |
| 17:00.09 | jorgenpt | Other than that, no login. And I think it's meant to be that way. |
| 17:00.13 | depthsofchaos | patching is fine but this.. |
| 17:00.35 | jorgenpt | I'm pretty sure other people like Fromethius etc don't login every time they start the editor. |
| 17:00.49 | Fromethius | hm? |
| 17:00.50 | depthsofchaos | well i do and dont know why |
| 17:00.52 | jorgenpt | Damn, I'm in Hickville. |
| 17:01.02 | Fromethius | every time i restart i have to relogin to the editor but not when i close and re-open it |
| 17:01.04 | jorgenpt | Every morning there's a new country singer co-anchoring the news. |
| 17:01.05 | depthsofchaos | for a time i didnt have to but then this oatch came |
| 17:01.09 | jorgenpt | Not even kidding. |
| 17:01.10 | Fromethius | solution: never close your editor |
| 17:01.17 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: Damn, thats broken. |
| 17:01.32 | Fromethius | by restart i meant my computer |
| 17:01.39 | depthsofchaos | how am i supposed to map in class |
| 17:01.56 | Fromethius | meh, it's not that big of a deal for me. i only have to relogin every month or so (rarely reboot) |
| 17:05.54 | rooj | thats about how often i reboot lol |
| 17:05.56 | rooj | if that |
| 17:05.59 | Clepto | ok if i create a lurker for player 1 (me) it doesn't auto burrow, but if it's created for the computer hostile it auto burrows!! |
| 17:06.17 | AsaPhelps | computer ai |
| 17:06.18 | Vail | i think thats because it has to burrow to attack |
| 17:07.00 | Vail | like when i put sieged tanks out and test the game they auto unseige |
| 17:07.10 | Clepto | ok so what AI do i need to get rid of exactly |
| 17:07.26 | Clepto | i already got rid of the flag AI's and it doesn't work |
| 17:11.48 | Ahmaz | YAAAYYY editor improvements in patch 1.1 |
| 17:11.56 | Ahmaz | bug fixes as well |
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| 17:12.04 | Eiviyn | Link notes |
| 17:12.08 | tbye | how do I allow an SCV to walk through structures? |
| 17:12.15 | Eiviyn | Remove collision |
| 17:12.36 | Eiviyn | Unit tab, scv, search collision, untick everything |
| 17:12.36 | Ahmaz | http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/60130#blog |
| 17:12.40 | Ahmaz | Not really notes |
| 17:15.04 | depthsofchaos | but when the hell will this come :o |
| 17:15.17 | Ahmaz | By mid sept |
| 17:15.33 | raul_ | hi guys! im working on a rpg, how do I select and lock my hero selection, so hes always selected? |
| 17:16.46 | Eiviyn | By torturing the player behind the keyboard with spikes |
| 17:16.54 | depthsofchaos | ah seems cool, wonder what additional mod features mean |
| 17:17.16 | Eiviyn | Try a trigger with a selection event |
| 17:17.28 | Eiviyn | Can't remember if there's a "Unit is deselected" event but there might be something similar |
| 17:17.52 | Eiviyn | Alternatively a trigger every half second or so that selects the hero for the player |
| 17:18.01 | jorgenpt | Ahmaz: Of course not before the competition. :-p |
| 17:18.09 | Ahmaz | Lol |
| 17:18.14 | Ahmaz | True |
| 17:18.14 | depthsofchaos | the zerg change is ridiculous tho :o |
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| 17:18.28 | raul_ | ok great, thx Eiviyn ill take a look |
| 17:18.42 | Eiviyn | Why rediculous |
| 17:18.43 | Ahmaz | Bifuu, you should die. |
| 17:18.44 | Eiviyn | Zealots eat zerg |
| 17:18.49 | Eiviyn | Zealots got nerfed |
| 17:18.53 | Eiviyn | Siege tanks eat zerg |
| 17:18.54 | Eiviyn | Nerfed |
| 17:18.57 | Eiviyn | Reapers, same |
| 17:19.09 | depthsofchaos | i dont want nerf i want functional changes |
| 17:19.09 | Eiviyn | I don't get the ultralisk change |
| 17:19.09 | Ahmaz | btw hi |
| 17:19.11 | Ahmaz | :) |
| 17:19.12 | Eiviyn | Seems a bit pointless |
| 17:19.19 | Eiviyn | Did ultralisks ever really perform well vs armoured anyway |
| 17:19.20 | depthsofchaos | gameplay mechanics suck |
| 17:19.30 | Bifuu|X | Whyy should I die |
| 17:19.30 | Ahmaz | like what depthsofchaos ? Z seems fine |
| 17:19.45 | Ahmaz | Bifuu|X: Your guide has caused me mayhem for the past 2 days or so. |
| 17:19.48 | depthsofchaos | Z is not supposed to be a race that defends until late game |
| 17:20.08 | Eiviyn | Bifuu, in your unit creation tutorial, you suggested to tick every box when duplicating an actor |
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| 17:20.22 | depthsofchaos | and T is not a race that has versatile harashing or easy tech change |
| 17:20.23 | Eiviyn | This causes major issues because it copies the model (and sounds?) |
| 17:20.46 | Bifuu|X | Ahmaz how so |
| 17:20.49 | Eiviyn | T has very versitile harassment |
| 17:20.57 | Eiviyn | Probably the most of any race imo |
| 17:20.59 | depthsofchaos | thats the problem |
| 17:21.07 | depthsofchaos | its not reasonable |
| 17:21.07 | Bifuu|X | Eiviyyn. Yeah it does |
| 17:21.20 | Bifuu|X | Its a beginner rut |
| 17:21.24 | Ahmaz | Bifuu|X: By telling people to check everything when duplicating >_> |
| 17:21.25 | Bifuu|X | Tut |
| 17:21.31 | Ahmaz | It messes things up >_< |
| 17:21.53 | Bifuu|X | How |
| 17:21.53 | Zachet | jorgenpt: So for Script Editing say, ' gv_mapRegionArray[gv_x][gv_y] = RegionFromId(1); ' I can specify a variable instead of 1 such as lv_startGrid, correct? |
| 17:22.05 | jorgenpt | Zachet: Yeah |
| 17:22.05 | Bifuu|X | Should work still |
| 17:22.15 | depthsofchaos | T can basically do what every other race can in terms of mechanics |
| 17:22.25 | Bifuu|X | Its just not reccomended for final maps |
| 17:23.07 | Eiviyn | If you tick everything when duplicating an actor, it breaks the model link and causes those ugly white spheres |
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| 17:23.25 | Ahmaz | ^ |
| 17:23.46 | HeyRevolver|slee | antone know what happened to molsterr? |
| 17:23.48 | Bifuu|X | Then don't? |
| 17:24.05 | Ahmaz | How would a newbie know that.. >_< |
| 17:24.12 | Ahmaz | No warning whatsoever |
| 17:24.24 | Eiviyn | That's his point, your tutorial says to tick everything and he got confused when the model link broke |
| 17:24.31 | Eiviyn | Or something like that |
| 17:24.43 | Bifuu|X | Its an outdated tutorial |
| 17:25.03 | Eiviyn | I think the same happened during beta if you copied everything from an actor |
| 17:25.20 | Bifuu|X | Didn't for me |
| 17:25.21 | Eiviyn | I know I had a few hours wracking my head over what to duplicate and what not to at least |
| 17:25.35 | Bifuu|X | Thus why I wrote it |
| 17:26.25 | Bifuu|X | Follow the unit part of my hero Tut then |
| 17:26.40 | Ahmaz | Which sadly links back to your duplication one.. |
| 17:26.43 | Ahmaz | Lol. |
| 17:26.53 | Bifuu|X | It. Only dupes unit and actor |
| 17:27.09 | Bifuu|X | Well then |
| 17:27.12 | Eiviyn | There's a line in it that says to tick every box when duplicating an actor |
| 17:27.32 | Eiviyn | I guess that is what is confusing people |
| 17:27.37 | Bifuu|X | Others have done it with no issues |
| 17:27.49 | Eiviyn | They must have missed that line then |
| 17:27.52 | Eiviyn | Because it's wrong |
| 17:28.05 | Bifuu|X | This is the first time im getting negative feed back |
| 17:28.15 | Bifuu|X | Soooooo |
| 17:28.28 | Ahmaz | Give your guide a try =) |
| 17:28.32 | Eiviyn | Well, you can test it yourself |
| 17:28.37 | Eiviyn | Takes 10 seconds |
| 17:28.56 | Bifuu|X | In class |
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| 17:29.55 | Bifuu|X | Plus I don't have time to keep my tuts up to date |
| 17:30.15 | Ahmaz | Aww.. it's really useful though |
| 17:30.18 | Eiviyn | Well in beta it did the same, it'd dupe the attack ability too and ruin all the sounds |
| 17:30.29 | Bifuu|X | Which is why they are on the wiki |
| 17:31.02 | FahqueL | bifuu, your tuts were great, but yes could use some updating |
| 17:31.16 | FahqueL | i got started by using your tuts and onetwo's tuts |
| 17:31.25 | Ahmaz | Maybe wait for patch 1.1 first =D |
| 17:31.40 | Eiviyn | Sure as hell hope 1.1 doesn't break too much |
| 17:32.23 | Bifuu|X | Im glad they help but I can't update them at the time |
| 17:32.26 | Ahmaz | Yeah, I'm debating whether to hold learning editor till then |
| 17:32.56 | Ahmaz | It's only 19 days left at max |
| 17:32.56 | Eiviyn | No point delaying learning the editor until mid december |
| 17:33.05 | Eiviyn | 19 days + blizzard delay |
| 17:33.18 | Ahmaz | Lol |
| 17:33.19 | Bifuu|X | They have info on 1.1 already? |
| 17:33.25 | Ahmaz | Yep http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/60130#blog |
| 17:33.26 | Eiviyn | Just design goals |
| 17:33.35 | Ahmaz | Situation report |
| 17:33.58 | Ahmaz | Eiviyn: I'm holding out on their promise for NA access for SEA/ANZ region ;) |
| 17:34.03 | Ahmaz | 60 days from launch... |
| 17:34.27 | Ahmaz | they have 29ish days left |
| 17:35.14 | Bifuu|X | I should be at mlg right now :/ |
| 17:35.29 | Bifuu|X | Damn job |
| 17:36.26 | FahqueL | there is nothing in that post about cross region access |
| 17:37.26 | Ahmaz | Well, not for other regions.. it's only been announced for the SEA/ANZ |
| 17:37.37 | Ahmaz | And that's also only to NA |
| 17:41.57 | Bifuu|X | 8 minutes..... |
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| 17:45.05 | progammer | patch 1.1 will come in middle september |
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| 17:45.31 | progammer | from now on there will only be bug fix like fixed a bug where play can play happily |
| 17:45.34 | HeyRevolver|slee | holy crap they are nerfing the shit out of siege tanks |
| 17:45.54 | HeyRevolver|slee | from 50 to 35 damage |
| 17:45.54 | HeyRevolver|slee | wow |
| 17:46.26 | progammer | its 35+15 armored |
| 17:46.45 | HeyRevolver | yeah |
| 17:46.53 | HeyRevolver | they are still changing the damage from 50 to 35 |
| 17:47.39 | progammer | its not like zergling has 36 health anyway |
| 17:48.12 | Eiviyn | It's mostly for vs hydralisks and banelings I guess |
| 17:48.24 | Eiviyn | Not like mmm balls have issues with lings or roaches |
| 17:48.47 | progammer | pretty sure thats for hydra |
| 17:49.10 | Eiviyn | Really don't get the ultralisk change |
| 17:49.26 | Eiviyn | Like, what armoured units did you throw ultras at in the first place |
| 17:49.48 | Eiviyn | That isn't covered with light meatshields |
| 17:50.54 | HeyRevolver | yeah they say it is equivalent to the siege tank nerf but i dont buy it |
| 17:50.59 | HeyRevolver | i think ultralisks were fine |
| 17:51.12 | Eiviyn | Think by that they mean that they were nerfing all the "op vs ground" units |
| 17:51.19 | HeyRevolver | yeah |
| 17:51.20 | Eiviyn | Though I don't get the bc change either |
| 17:51.35 | Eiviyn | imo what makes bcs strong is their 6 armour rendering them pretty much immune to non counter units |
| 17:51.38 | HeyRevolver | well, the -2 will make it take a shot longer to kill like 5 units |
| 17:51.38 | HeyRevolver | so |
| 17:51.44 | Eiviyn | And yamato ripping up other t3 units |
| 17:51.51 | HeyRevolver | yeah |
| 17:52.00 | HeyRevolver | if anything they could have nerfed the yamato a tiny bit |
| 17:52.18 | Eiviyn | Just make the research more expensive and reduce their armour from 3 base to 2 |
| 17:52.29 | HeyRevolver | thatd work too |
| 17:52.32 | Eiviyn | I mean a 3/3 bc vs a carrier is kinda funny |
| 17:52.38 | Eiviyn | The interceptors just don't do anything |
| 17:52.41 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 17:52.45 | HeyRevolver | yeah poor carriers |
| 17:52.56 | HeyRevolver | I remember the first time i tried them out i was expcetig them to be sc1 calibre |
| 17:52.57 | HeyRevolver | =( |
| 17:54.31 | Eiviyn | I guess they'll buff carriers too |
| 17:54.49 | HeyRevolver | maybe |
| 17:54.52 | Eiviyn | Really should change the interceptor attack from being x2 to just x1, then double the damage of the x1 attack to compensate |
| 17:55.03 | Eiviyn | Armour really hurts carriers too much |
| 17:55.13 | HeyRevolver | they get completely rocked |
| 17:55.36 | HeyRevolver | I dont even use carriers anymore =( |
| 17:55.40 | HeyRevolver | and it was my fav unit from sc1 |
| 17:55.44 | Eiviyn | 1-2 is nice behind an army |
| 17:55.51 | Eiviyn | Just the tech to get there is kinda insane |
| 17:55.57 | HeyRevolver | excatly |
| 17:55.59 | HeyRevolver | my games dont last that long |
| 17:56.01 | HeyRevolver | =/ |
| 17:56.36 | Eiviyn | Mothership rush! |
| 17:56.38 | HeyRevolver | I guess I just need m0r3 sk1llz |
| 17:56.43 | Fromethius | i love carries in 4v4 |
| 17:56.53 | Fromethius | fromethius score = 225,000 |
| 17:56.56 | HeyRevolver | hahaha |
| 17:56.57 | Fromethius | 2nd place = 45,000 |
| 17:57.03 | Fromethius | just decimate the entire enemy team |
| 17:57.25 | Fromethius | then again i play 4v4s with people on vent and they just pool me all their gas |
| 17:57.28 | HeyRevolver | every single 4v4 I have played, literally every one, I have been rushed |
| 17:57.29 | HeyRevolver | and owned |
| 17:57.34 | Fromethius | wow |
| 17:57.36 | HeyRevolver | yeah |
| 17:57.37 | Fromethius | i have never been rushed in a 4v4 |
| 17:57.43 | HeyRevolver | i know everyone tells me that |
| 17:57.45 | HeyRevolver | im like wtf |
| 17:57.54 | Fromethius | well you might as well rush |
| 17:57.59 | Fromethius | because no one is expecting to get rushed in a 4v4 |
| 17:58.00 | Ragesapien | I played a 4v4 against 1zerg and 3random, they all got zerg and 6-pooled |
| 17:58.08 | Eiviyn | proxy rax/gateway is kinda insane in team games |
| 17:58.08 | HeyRevolver | LOL |
| 17:59.17 | Eiviyn | That laser tank model in the game files is pretty cool |
| 17:59.20 | Eiviyn | Wonder why it isn't used |
| 17:59.29 | Eiviyn | Looks really fleshed out and finished |
| 18:02.06 | Zachet | jorgenpt: Just wanted to say thanks again, soon as I figure out this thing called ' math ' I think I will get it to work propery. |
| 18:02.19 | jorgenpt | Zachet: No problem. Let me know if you need any help. |
| 18:02.21 | jorgenpt | What're you working on? |
| 18:02.47 | Eiviyn | http://a.imageshack.us/img291/7430/terrain014.jpg is the tank, for anyone curious |
| 18:02.51 | jorgenpt | Eiviyn: What does proxy mean in that context btw? |
| 18:03.07 | Eiviyn | Built outside their base |
| 18:03.19 | jorgenpt | Eiviyn: Looks like the Warbot from the campaign (ARES) |
| 18:03.25 | jorgenpt | With a different turret |
| 18:03.26 | Eiviyn | Nah, it's not |
| 18:03.30 | Eiviyn | The warbot is completely different |
| 18:03.32 | jorgenpt | ok |
| 18:03.34 | Eiviyn | It has triangle treads for example |
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| 18:09.09 | Fromethius | what's a good word for keeping your cool and composure even while in a stressful situation? i need it for the name of one my unit's abilities xP |
| 18:11.42 | Eiviyn | Calm? |
| 18:11.59 | Fromethius | fortitiude sounds pretty good.. yay thesaurus.com lol |
| 18:12.38 | Eiviyn | Not sure that fits too well, but it's a good word anyway! |
| 18:14.04 | tbye | Does PlayerGroup "Active Players" include computer players? |
| 18:14.33 | jorgenpt | Anyone worked with parameters of the + type? Like String+, Integer+ etc |
| 18:16.29 | Eiviyn | In what? Triggers? |
| 18:16.32 | Eiviyn | tbye, yes |
| 18:16.40 | tbye | Eiviyn: Thanks! |
| 18:16.57 | tbye | Eiviyn: in a condition |
| 18:17.16 | Eiviyn | I meant jorgenpt's question with that line |
| 18:17.31 | tbye | Eiviyn: my bad... sorry |
| 18:17.32 | jorgenpt | Eiviyn: Creating a custom functions |
| 18:17.38 | jorgenpt | s/a // |
| 18:17.57 | Eiviyn | In what? Triggers or data? |
| 18:18.02 | jorgenpt | Triggers |
| 18:18.12 | Eiviyn | Just click the String+ and you'll get a new string |
| 18:18.17 | Eiviyn | Enter whatever |
| 18:18.18 | Otixa | Custom live is srs fucking business |
| 18:18.21 | HeyRevolver | j00 guys are missing out on the real fun in the CL chat |
| 18:18.26 | Otixa | Also, http://www.livestream.com/sc2customlive |
| 18:18.30 | Otixa | For anyone who isn't on |
| 18:18.31 | Otixa | ;p |
| 18:18.34 | Eiviyn | Then click the string+ again and you get another string to work with that is placed after the first |
| 18:18.40 | jorgenpt | Eiviyn: Right, but implementing them for your own function. |
| 18:18.43 | Otixa | We're resuming in 5min or so |
| 18:18.52 | jorgenpt | Eiviyn: I'm using Allow Multiple on the function |
| 18:18.58 | jorgenpt | But it gives me syntax error when I try to call it. |
| 18:19.05 | jorgenpt | Also, how do you refer to the different parameters passed. |
| 18:19.08 | Eiviyn | Never really played with that |
| 18:19.43 | jorgenpt | Oh, never mind, the error was from something else. |
| 18:19.50 | jorgenpt | Im still not sure how to refer to the separate components, though. |
| 18:20.37 | jorgenpt | Nope, yes, it gives syntax error. |
| 18:20.47 | jorgenpt | Hm. Is there anywhere to see the prototypes for the native functions? |
| 18:24.47 | jorgenpt | Oh, hm, I guess those are just constructs since they are operators. |
| 18:25.28 | jorgenpt | I guess they don't actually allow varargs. |
| 18:25.55 | HP-X|Arthas | Word of the month: Cumslut |
| 18:26.12 | tbye | Word of the month: legs... spread the word |
| 18:27.15 | HP-X|Arthas | Word of the month - It changes within a minute |
| 18:27.23 | HP-X|Arthas | Spreading it ;p |
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| 18:31.57 | Driscoll | a unit in my editor is showing up as a sphere with a crummy texture on it |
| 18:32.01 | Driscoll | any ideas? |
| 18:32.32 | AsaPhelps | check the actor model |
| 18:33.01 | Driscoll | i havent changed anything, it's a fresh map |
| 18:33.10 | Eiviyn | Then the unit has no actor model |
| 18:33.19 | Driscoll | terran civilian |
| 18:33.34 | Driscoll | it just randomly stopped showing, maybe i should just restart the editor |
| 18:33.36 | Eiviyn | Must've changed something |
| 18:33.40 | Eiviyn | Dependencies probably |
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| 18:35.45 | Driscoll | yeah just needed a reboot |
| 18:36.01 | Driscoll | also, is there any way to make the text search in the unit panel not stall? |
| 18:36.22 | Eiviyn | It doesn't stall |
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| 18:36.39 | Driscoll | if you use the campaign dependency, theres a ton of stuff |
| 18:36.40 | Eiviyn | Just takes a few seconds to load |
| 18:36.44 | Driscoll | right thats what i mean |
| 18:36.54 | Eiviyn | Faster processor I imagine |
| 18:37.03 | Eiviyn | You can type more letters than one while it's loading |
| 18:37.14 | Driscoll | yeah |
| 18:37.25 | AsaPhelps | wow my sc2editor was taking up 2.4gb of memory |
| 18:37.27 | Eiviyn | Say you open the unit tab, wait for it to load, type in marine, it'll lag out at the m but by the end it'll filter out all non marine units |
| 18:37.36 | AsaPhelps | and its not even a fancy map |
| 18:45.50 | Nash|327 | kittuns |
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| 18:47.39 | tbye | Is it possible to have a players start location be random in a given subset of all start locations? |
| 18:47.48 | tbye | is that where I get into team placement? |
| 18:48.33 | Driscoll | hey, where is the stuff for making roads? |
| 18:48.55 | Driscoll | nevermind, found it, in terrain |
| 18:49.13 | Nash|327 | roads full of toads |
| 18:49.31 | Driscoll | not using the toad tileset |
| 18:49.38 | Driscoll | but yeah |
| 18:49.56 | Zachet | How can you get trigger editor to refresh after editing the script? |
| 18:50.59 | Eiviyn | Close+open |
| 18:51.04 | Zachet | Not working hmm |
| 18:51.14 | Zachet | Unless I close the whole map |
| 18:51.20 | Eiviyn | Well, that's what I meant |
| 18:51.25 | Zachet | *sad face* |
| 18:51.47 | tbye | Anyone got a good custom functions tutorial? |
| 18:51.54 | Nash|327 | SAD FACE, HE'S GOT A BIG SAD FACE |
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| 18:52.18 | vitrify | anyone know how to fix multiqueing for infinite upgrades? |
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| 18:58.48 | tbye | why can't global vars be used as default values for custom function params? |
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| 18:59.32 | tbye | my bad... listed in values |
| 19:00.02 | jorgenpt | Hmm. Anyone implemented equivilant dialog buttons to the default ones in a trigger? |
| 19:00.11 | jorgenpt | Say, one that looks like Attack. |
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| 19:06.32 | Fromethius | does anyone here know how much damage was reduced in warcraft 3 when you use piercing attacks against, say, heroic armor? |
| 19:06.40 | Fromethius | or fortified |
| 19:06.56 | jorgenpt | Dialog - Set Dialog Item Image /really/ breaks on Buttons |
| 19:07.31 | jorgenpt | I have a 76x76 button, I set it to have tn-command-attack.dds and it shows up like it has 76x152 dimensions :o |
| 19:07.57 | vitrify | anyone know how to fix multiqueing for infinite upgrades? |
| 19:07.59 | Nash|327 | warcraft 3 wiki gogogo |
| 19:08.01 | jorgenpt | And then hover is /completely/ broken. |
| 19:08.10 | Nash|327 | I bet there is one. |
| 19:08.38 | jorgenpt | http://o7.no/987046/1m.png http://o7.no/987046/1n.png |
| 19:08.44 | jorgenpt | First is button, second is when hovered |
| 19:09.38 | jorgenpt | With this code: http://pastebin.com/GxEsPvwQ |
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| 19:12.34 | progammer_ | jorgenpt : set image tiled to false will fix the button |
| 19:12.52 | progammer_ | hovered image u use is the border image, not applicable for it |
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| 19:13.22 | jorgenpt | progammer_: This is a Button |
| 19:13.27 | jorgenpt | progammer_: Set Dialog Item Tilde to false? |
| 19:13.28 | jorgenpt | Tiled |
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| 19:13.56 | jorgenpt | 76x76 is the native resolution of the image, so tiling shouldn't matter. |
| 19:14.03 | jorgenpt | Also, it makes no difference. :-) |
| 19:14.09 | progammer_ | tileing will stretch it out |
| 19:14.18 | jorgenpt | Well, the button is 76x76, image is 76x76 |
| 19:14.25 | jorgenpt | I'm not using a hovered image, it's the default hover for buttons. |
| 19:14.28 | progammer_ | but i would prefer to create an image and attach it to center of the button |
| 19:14.35 | jorgenpt | Basically Set Dialog Item Image doesn't work on Buttons. |
| 19:14.40 | vitrify | anyone know how to fix multiqueing for infinite upgrades? |
| 19:14.49 | jorgenpt | Problem with that is that you don't get the nice "hilight" feature when you hover it, AFAIK. |
| 19:15.01 | Fromethius | ok so i'm not creative at all. can anyone think of an ability name/tooltip for this? "level 1 = 8% evasion and 10% chance to do 2x damage" |
| 19:15.06 | Fromethius | for a dark templar btw |
| 19:15.10 | progammer_ | why not ? you got the hilght for button |
| 19:15.17 | progammer_ | just the image is on top of the button |
| 19:15.20 | AsaPhelps | Dodge and Slash |
| 19:15.39 | Fromethius | hmm... |
| 19:15.45 | AsaPhelps | How did you do the crit effect? |
| 19:15.46 | jorgenpt | Wait. I can probably fix this with render priority. |
| 19:16.00 | RedWraith | Fromethius, combat mastery, drunken brawler |
| 19:16.09 | RedWraith | Alternatively, Wraithguard |
| 19:16.09 | Fromethius | drunken brawler.. that sounds familiar xD |
| 19:16.14 | arturusfury | Drunken Brawler ftw :P |
| 19:16.25 | RedWraith | Knight? |
| 19:16.36 | Fromethius | it needs to be more dark-templary.. lol |
| 19:16.40 | RedWraith | oh, okay. |
| 19:16.45 | Xackery | Fromethius: You can just say like, "Level 1: 8% evasion, 10% critical hit chance". Most people will assume critical hit involves some sort of bonus, and no reason to tell details about an ability, so long as it gives the general idea. |
| 19:16.45 | Fromethius | something to do with the void.. whatever that is |
| 19:16.56 | AsaPhelps | from how did you do the crit effect? |
| 19:17.00 | Fromethius | i didn't yet |
| 19:17.05 | Fromethius | i will after i find the name first =p |
| 19:17.17 | RedWraith | Psi Eminance |
| 19:17.17 | Zachet | So im trying to find a way to find out what trigger the player clicks within... trying within bounds: http://pastebin.com/0ar96LSq - Gives " 'RegionGetBoundsMax' (value 0) could not get 'p' from parameter in 'PointGetX' (value: 65535)' " I am guessing it doesn't like the conversion that's been done, any ideas? |
| 19:17.23 | RedWraith | Eminence* |
| 19:17.27 | RedWraith | Psi Eminence* |
| 19:17.57 | AsaPhelps | xack you should totally try my td |
| 19:18.05 | Fromethius | that sounds good redwraith thanks |
| 19:18.06 | Nash|327 | Or: 8% chance to evade attacks, 10% chance to score a critical hit. |
| 19:18.37 | Nash|327 | or 10% chance to do double damage |
| 19:18.41 | Nash|327 | whatevs |
| 19:18.50 | RedWraith | Nash |
| 19:18.54 | RedWraith | those are not the same |
| 19:19.15 | RedWraith | They stack differently. |
| 19:19.25 | RedWraith | 10% chance to do double damage -> on top of everything |
| 19:19.32 | Nash|327 | Says who? |
| 19:19.37 | RedWraith | 10% chance to crit -> increase crit percentage |
| 19:19.52 | RedWraith | Says me |
| 19:19.56 | RedWraith | ]:| |
| 19:20.05 | Nash|327 | Well it's not your map is it? |
| 19:21.26 | vitrify | anyone know how to fix multiqueing for infinite upgrades? |
| 19:21.29 | Fromethius | how's this sound: The Dark Templar is skilled with the art of the blade, able to dodge fatal blows and exploit enemy weak points. Grants the Dark Templar 8% evasion and a 10% chance to deal 2x damage. |
| 19:21.38 | Nash|327 | I would call it Shadow Warrior but that's me. |
| 19:22.07 | Nash|327 | Not 2x. |
| 19:22.12 | Nash|327 | Double. |
| 19:22.23 | Nash|327 | 2x looks stupid. |
| 19:23.31 | pinzu | http://pastebin.com/ZQi7JbxY |
| 19:23.35 | Fromethius | well at level 2 it's 3x and at level 4 it's 4x |
| 19:23.42 | pinzu | how would I reduce the lagg of this trigger? |
| 19:23.43 | Nash|327 | triple, quadruple |
| 19:23.48 | Fromethius | hm... maybe |
| 19:24.08 | Nash|327 | At least use something that doesn't involve x. |
| 19:24.23 | Nash|327 | twice, three times, 4 times |
| 19:25.12 | pinzu | any suggestions |
| 19:25.15 | pinzu | it laggs quite abit |
| 19:25.24 | pinzu | if you click multiple times |
| 19:26.40 | Driscoll | how would i get all the units within a certain distance of another unit, and issue them a command? |
| 19:26.56 | pinzu | Unit group |
| 19:27.16 | pinzu | there is a pick all units within X of Position(unit) |
| 19:27.19 | pinzu | or something like that |
| 19:27.26 | Driscoll | cool ill try that |
| 19:27.38 | pinzu | Pick each Unit, blabla and do actions |
| 19:27.50 | Driscoll | so would that involve a for loop |
| 19:27.51 | pinzu | issue order (picked unit) |
| 19:28.11 | pinzu | don't think so, ill have to take a look |
| 19:28.19 | Driscoll | ill want a unit group as a local var, right? |
| 19:28.20 | pinzu | dont know right off my head ;d |
| 19:28.39 | Driscoll | not so learned on unit groups |
| 19:28.43 | Driscoll | im not |
| 19:28.44 | vitrify | anyone have experience making upgrades go more than 3? |
| 19:30.28 | pinzu | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.38 | pinzu | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.41 | pinzu | I thinik |
| 19:30.47 | pinzu | that should do it |
| 19:30.52 | Driscoll | great man, thanks |
| 19:31.43 | pinzu | Guys, I have a trigger |
| 19:31.51 | pinzu | and I want to reduce the amount of times its run |
| 19:31.52 | pinzu | http://pastebin.com/ZQi7JbxY |
| 19:32.09 | pinzu | cus frankly, the events can be spammed and slow down the game |
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| 19:32.37 | jorgenpt | Hm. Buttons have "Tint by race: Enabled/Disabled" |
| 19:32.38 | Driscoll | hmm |
| 19:32.46 | jorgenpt | How can I get the racial tint in a trigger? |
| 19:32.47 | Nash|327 | yes, they do |
| 19:32.52 | jorgenpt | Or find it in the data editor? |
| 19:32.54 | jorgenpt | (What color it is) |
| 19:33.10 | Nash|327 | print screen |
| 19:33.14 | jorgenpt | Har har. |
| 19:33.26 | jorgenpt | I want to find out "What is the tint for Terran", e.g. |
| 19:33.30 | Driscoll | what does it do, pinzu |
| 19:33.34 | Nash|327 | Print screen. |
| 19:33.39 | Nash|327 | Photoshop. |
| 19:34.14 | jorgenpt | Nash|327: I think you missed the part where I said "trigger or data editor". I don't want to hard-code it, I'm sure there's a way to look it up. |
| 19:34.21 | Nash|327 | I use the "whatever works" approach to mapping. |
| 19:34.39 | Nash|327 | I would print screen, find out the color, and input it into a variable in triggers. |
| 19:34.44 | Nash|327 | :G |
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| 19:35.10 | Nash|327 | Or you could spend a bunch of time figuring out how to do it your fancy way. |
| 19:35.32 | Nash|327 | I prefer to allocate my time on something more productive. |
| 19:36.34 | jorgenpt | Well, I was considering changing them, but I can't find it in the data editor |
| 19:38.04 | Vail | cnat find what? |
| 19:40.23 | jorgenpt | Vail: Button tint by race |
| 19:40.31 | vitrify | so.... anyone know how to make upgrades infinite? =/ |
| 19:40.50 | Vail | i think the max they can be is 255 for something |
| 19:40.55 | vitrify | yeah |
| 19:40.59 | vitrify | like...i only need up to 50 |
| 19:41.17 | vitrify | i have it there so far, but the problem is that you can simultaneously research it in like 5 engineering bays |
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| 19:41.50 | onetwo | whoa no sixen |
| 19:41.51 | Vail | your are going to need a Requirement |
| 19:41.51 | onetwo | thats odd |
| 19:42.02 | vitrify | yeah, i looked at this |
| 19:42.02 | vitrify | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/1370-data-accumulative-and-multiple-upgrade-with-queue/ |
| 19:42.05 | onetwo | lol im working on a tower d now as a break from my rpg |
| 19:42.11 | onetwo | and i was trying to think of what would make my TD unique |
| 19:42.15 | onetwo | when i realized i dont have to do anything |
| 19:42.19 | vitrify | i can not, for the life of me, find "Go into the Data Source: Requirement" |
| 19:42.23 | onetwo | everyone else's TDs already have 50000 gimmicks |
| 19:42.26 | onetwo | im just going to make a normal one |
| 19:42.48 | SweetZombieJezus | make a 2d tower defense |
| 19:42.52 | SweetZombieJezus | side scroller |
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| 19:43.10 | onetwo | meh itll just be a vid on sc2mapster homepage and then nothing will come of it |
| 19:43.17 | Bostich | hello @all |
| 19:43.17 | AsaPhelps | i'm going to make a terrible td |
| 19:43.22 | AsaPhelps | people will be like wow this is bad |
| 19:43.22 | Bostich | one simple question: |
| 19:43.27 | AsaPhelps | and then people'll play 12's |
| 19:43.35 | AsaPhelps | and be like wow this is awesome especially compared to the other one |
| 19:43.36 | Bostich | where do i have to copy custom maps that i can play them with a friend online? |
| 19:43.40 | SweetZombieJezus | im making a mini game map, prob will be too hard for people lol |
| 19:44.03 | Vail | you are just looking for the Requiremnt tab in the dropdown box |
| 19:44.22 | Bostich | Vail: are you talking to me? |
| 19:44.30 | Vail | sorry no |
| 19:44.30 | jorgenpt | Hm. How do you get a player's race in a trigger? |
| 19:44.32 | vitrify | dropdown box...? |
| 19:44.38 | AsaPhelps | so what determines where missiles are launched from |
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| 19:44.50 | Arthas|Zzz|thenW | I fucking HATE bills |
| 19:45.03 | Ragesapien | Bostich: Publishing your map either publicly or privately and then creating a multiplayer game and inviting your friend is currently the only way. |
| 19:45.12 | vitrify | oh my god |
| 19:45.14 | vitrify | i found it |
| 19:45.16 | vitrify | i love you vail :D |
| 19:45.39 | Vail | vitrify: under the new file button on the editor it says data source: next to that is a dropdown that you can select the diffrent types of data in |
| 19:45.41 | Vail | ah |
| 19:45.44 | Vail | ok |
| 19:45.53 | jorgenpt | Nash|327: You know how to get the player's race? |
| 19:45.55 | AsaPhelps | where's xack when I need him the most |
| 19:45.56 | Bostich | Ragesapien: thx for response, i dont have created a map on my own, i just want to play a custom one which i have recently downloaded, but i dont know where to copy it to |
| 19:46.01 | jorgenpt | UI race that is. |
| 19:46.20 | Ragesapien | Hit Create Game from multiplayer menu, and in the search box type the name of the game in |
| 19:46.27 | onetwo | asaphelps |
| 19:46.33 | onetwo | thatll already happen with the maps out there |
| 19:46.33 | onetwo | lol |
| 19:46.49 | onetwo | lol im trying to find a good splat model for the towers you place |
| 19:46.55 | Bostich | Ragesapien: sorry, but i dont really understand what you are trying to explain to me |
| 19:46.55 | onetwo | but theres like no splats in sc2 |
| 19:46.58 | onetwo | like there was in war3 |
| 19:47.02 | onetwo | the lil concrete below a building |
| 19:47.10 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 19:47.16 | Vail | the misslle actor and the missile attack actor AsaPhelps |
| 19:48.00 | Technomancer | writing a tutorial now for retexturing models :) |
| 19:48.04 | Nash|327 | Alas, I am but a noob. |
| 19:48.12 | Xackery | Yarg. |
| 19:48.13 | Ragesapien | Bostich: In starcraft 2, when logged into battle.net. Hit Multiplayer > Create Game, and in the dropdown select Recently Played or type the name of the game you want to play with your friends in the search box |
| 19:48.14 | Nash|327 | I have no clue how to get race. |
| 19:48.34 | Bostich | Ragesapien: i havent played that map |
| 19:48.40 | Arthas|Zzz|thenW | disgusting |
| 19:48.43 | Bostich | Ragesapien: it's downloaded from a webpage |
| 19:48.47 | Nash|327 | Unless UI race corresponds to what units you have. |
| 19:48.47 | pinzu | is there a way of adding/removing events through triggers? |
| 19:48.56 | Ragesapien | You won't be able to play it online then unless someone has published it on your server |
| 19:48.59 | Bostich | Ragesapien: and i need to know where to copy it to see it in game |
| 19:49.12 | Ragesapien | You can't see a map in game unless it's Published |
| 19:49.21 | Bostich | lol |
| 19:49.48 | Ragesapien | Yes it's crappy |
| 19:50.00 | Rayden | hello |
| 19:50.05 | Bostich | Ragesapien: so i have to hope that blizz has signed it? that's rediciolous |
| 19:50.11 | Rayden | i'm looking for someone who knows stuff about lobbies |
| 19:50.46 | Bostich | Ragesapien: ok, thank's for your help anyway :) |
| 19:51.55 | antares- | Rayden, what do you need to know? |
| 19:52.08 | Rayden | i spent some time trying to figure out how to allow players to pick their team |
| 19:52.20 | Rayden | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ |
| 19:52.23 | Rayden | looked over all of this |
| 19:52.27 | Rayden | didn't figure out a way to do it |
| 19:52.33 | AsaPhelps | 12, how do I change where a missile is launched from, the attack actor launch query? |
| 19:52.34 | Rayden | you can set up the lobby to have team 1 and 2 |
| 19:52.43 | Rayden | but if players move themselves around it doesn't do anything |
| 19:52.48 | Rayden | you know how to do that? |
| 19:53.24 | Rayden | launch attachment query |
| 19:54.37 | AsaPhelps | i'm trying to make my stone zealot fire the bc lasers from his eyes rayden but he keeps firing it from his crotch |
| 19:54.58 | Nash|327 | haha |
| 19:54.59 | antares- | hrm, it seems to work for me rayden |
| 19:55.02 | Nash|327 | as it should be |
| 19:55.07 | Nash|327 | POWER CROTCH |
| 19:55.12 | Rayden | antares-, do you have a map published that does this? |
| 19:55.22 | Rayden | is there even a point at their head? |
| 19:55.24 | antares- | but players aren't numbered by their slot, they are numbered by the order they join |
| 19:55.32 | Rayden | yeah |
| 19:55.32 | Nash|327 | it's not a bug, it's a feature |
| 19:55.32 | Vail | AsaPhelps: you are going to need a duplicate of the bc lasers attack actor missles and beams |
| 19:55.44 | Rayden | i need to access them via their slot, or just by which team they are on in the lobby |
| 19:55.48 | AsaPhelps | okay then what? |
| 19:56.02 | antares- | so you can't really reference them i.e. 1-4 are team 1, 5-8 team2 |
| 19:56.06 | pinzu | hey could someone help me with creating a physics |
| 19:56.12 | Vail | lets see if i can recall this |
| 19:56.15 | Nash|327 | a physics! |
| 19:56.24 | Rayden | so antares- you have a lobby with team 1 and team 2 and you can figure out who is on what team? |
| 19:56.35 | tbye | could someone pass me that physics over there? |
| 19:56.37 | pinzu | I have these variabes: gravity, applied force, friction, ballmass |
| 19:56.57 | pinzu | and the movment is 2d |
| 19:57.00 | pinzu | not 3d |
| 19:57.01 | antares- | i haven't done it but i think the way you'd do it is |
| 19:57.02 | AsaPhelps | its weird because some weapons shoot from his eyes fine |
| 19:57.03 | antares- | loop through players |
| 19:57.13 | antares- | and compare alliances |
| 19:57.19 | antares- | then set up teams through that |
| 19:57.24 | Rayden | well |
| 19:57.28 | Vail | you will also need an original even if duplicated ammo unit if the lasers use one |
| 19:57.39 | Rayden | the problem is it doesn't change which player you are |
| 19:57.41 | Rayden | and your start location |
| 19:57.44 | Rayden | that i found |
| 19:57.51 | Rayden | so if you have a top team and a bottom team |
| 19:57.54 | Rayden | you can't pick which one to be on |
| 19:58.10 | antares- | right, you'd basically just have to do that through triggers i think |
| 19:58.22 | Vail | if it fires a missile it will need its own projectile unit and attack actor .. |
| 19:58.23 | Rayden | you can change which player is which with triggers? |
| 19:58.24 | Rayden | ugh |
| 19:58.27 | AsaPhelps | you sure I can't just change the launch query or something vail? |
| 19:58.43 | Rayden | AsaPhelps, is there a launch point at the zealot head? |
| 19:58.56 | Rayden | copy the launch attachment query from the one that works right |
| 19:59.06 | Rayden | and then make sure your events are set up properly |
| 19:59.10 | Rayden | if they aren't your launch point won't work |
| 19:59.15 | Eiviyn | There's no such thing as a launch point, you can launch a missile from any attachment point |
| 19:59.24 | Rayden | that's what i mean |
| 19:59.28 | antares- | well, you can test if players are allied with each other, so just loop through every player and add every player allied with player 1 to a playergroup "team1" (or whatever) |
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| 19:59.54 | antares- | then any character *not* allied with player 1 is on team 2 by default |
| 20:00.01 | Rayden | i do that |
| 20:00.03 | Eiviyn | Alternatively do what I do and completely disregard the lobby teams and form the teams ingame |
| 20:00.06 | Rayden | but the problem is |
| 20:00.13 | Rayden | if i put player 1 on team 1 in the lobby, and player 2 on team 2 |
| 20:00.15 | Rayden | they both end up on team 1 |
| 20:00.18 | Eiviyn | So, say, players 1 and 2 on team 1 always, with 3+4 on team 2 |
| 20:00.37 | Rayden | yeah but then you can't pick teams |
| 20:00.49 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
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| 20:00.54 | RedWraith | Is there a tutorial that covers how targeting works for searchs and abilities? |
| 20:01.04 | Eiviyn | Is picking teams really that important |
| 20:01.08 | Rayden | yes |
| 20:01.11 | Eiviyn | At least until the lobby player bug is sorted |
| 20:01.12 | Rayden | it's a dota like map |
| 20:01.16 | Rayden | picking teams is critical |
| 20:01.21 | Eiviyn | What, why |
| 20:01.26 | antares- | hmm, are you sure you have player teams under custom teams setup properly? and/or your trigger logic |
| 20:01.30 | Rayden | so you can choose who is on what team |
| 20:01.39 | Rayden | i don't think it has anything to do with triggers |
| 20:01.42 | antares- | it's really a weird system but it does work |
| 20:01.46 | Rayden | does it? |
| 20:01.51 | Rayden | because i haven't heard of anyone actually doing this |
| 20:01.53 | AsaPhelps | the launch attachment query for it says ignored |
| 20:02.04 | Rayden | i haven't found a single example map that does this |
| 20:02.42 | Arthas- | depthsofchaos there? |
| 20:03.33 | Vail | AsaPhelps: are you using the bc weapon or a copy of it ? |
| 20:03.48 | AsaPhelps | i haven't copied it yet |
| 20:04.30 | AsaPhelps | now its copied |
| 20:05.02 | Suterusu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUPzN7tp7bQ |
| 20:05.04 | Vail | did you duplicate the attack actor? |
| 20:06.42 | AsaPhelps | yes |
| 20:07.35 | Vail | did you copy the projectile unit as well and its actor if it has one? |
| 20:07.56 | AsaPhelps | nope :/ |
| 20:08.02 | Driscoll | hey, what do i want to look for, to give any unit a progress bar over their head? |
| 20:08.08 | Driscoll | and keep track of the value? |
| 20:08.28 | Vail | you will need doplicates of those as well |
| 20:08.32 | Suterusu | variables usually keep track of things pretty well |
| 20:09.58 | Driscoll | right but to get a progress bar over a head |
| 20:11.27 | AsaPhelps | then what vail? |
| 20:12.08 | Vail | make sure the new missile unit has the proper mover and that the dupicated launch missile effect is set to you new missile unit |
| 20:12.32 | Vail | just set the mover to the same as the original unit and it should be fine |
| 20:13.21 | AsaPhelps | the problem isn't the mover its just where it launches from |
| 20:13.29 | AsaPhelps | does the mover matter for that? |
| 20:13.54 | Vail | no but with out the mover the missile will just float in space where it was lauched from |
| 20:13.55 | onetwo | aha i love TF2 |
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| 20:14.40 | AsaPhelps | Spy sappin my dispenser |
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| 20:15.02 | Vail | after these are set edit your new attack actor to use the dupilcated effects and set the launch attachment querry to the place you want |
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| 20:16.09 | Vail | and dont forget to set the model of the duplicated missile actor |
| 20:16.45 | AsaPhelps | so why do I need so much duplication for that |
| 20:17.15 | Vail | you want the new weapon to fire from the right place right? |
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| 20:17.37 | Vulfe | hi |
| 20:17.38 | Vail | well the fired missle controlls the attack actor being called and there for where it launches from |
| 20:18.50 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 20:19.16 | Vail | it took me a long time to figure that out .. |
| 20:19.41 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 20:19.43 | Vulfe | O RLY |
| 20:20.03 | Vail | yes |
| 20:20.22 | pinzu | whats the formula called for ball movment? |
| 20:20.38 | pinzu | movment energy or what ever its called |
| 20:20.45 | pinzu | movement* |
| 20:22.17 | Vulfe | Hmm |
| 20:22.18 | Vulfe | SAoo |
| 20:22.19 | Vulfe | Soo |
| 20:22.23 | Rayden | in game variants, what does game mode do? |
| 20:22.23 | Vulfe | How is everyone doing |
| 20:22.32 | Rayden | public, private, automated match making? |
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| 20:22.59 | Vulfe | game mode allows you to change certain things in the game based on what is selected |
| 20:23.00 | Vulfe | afaik |
| 20:23.04 | Vulfe | so you can set like |
| 20:23.08 | Vulfe | TDM, CTF, or whatever |
| 20:23.10 | Vulfe | in the lobby |
| 20:23.34 | onetwo | dont touch that rayden haha |
| 20:23.49 | Rayden | onetwo, have you made a lobby where players can pick which team they are on? |
| 20:23.58 | onetwo | the public private thing |
| 20:24.21 | Rayden | i want a lobby for a dota type game that lets players pick team 1 or 2 |
| 20:24.21 | Vulfe | I'm leaving for MLG in like 20 minutes |
| 20:24.25 | Vulfe | silly canadians live too far away |
| 20:24.26 | Rayden | no one seems to know how to do it |
| 20:24.31 | Rayden | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/?page=3#posts |
| 20:24.41 | Suterusu | " <Rayden> i want a lobby for a dota type game" |
| 20:24.44 | Suterusu | RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE |
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| 20:24.58 | Vulfe | okay |
| 20:25.02 | Vulfe | done bashing onetwo for now |
| 20:25.04 | Vulfe | <3 |
| 20:25.39 | onetwo | rayden ive done it so you can |
| 20:25.42 | onetwo | err so the host can |
| 20:25.44 | Rayden | what Suterusu ? |
| 20:25.46 | onetwo | pick a custom thing |
| 20:25.46 | pinzu | blizzad should have released a manual |
| 20:25.53 | pinzu | to the data editor |
| 20:25.53 | pinzu | ;d |
| 20:25.54 | onetwo | they will |
| 20:25.58 | Rayden | no they won't |
| 20:26.00 | Suterusu | I get upset when people mention dota like games |
| 20:26.03 | Rayden | why? |
| 20:26.18 | pinzu | cus donta in sc2 is fail |
| 20:26.19 | Suterusu | Because 1/2 the people on SC2Mapster ask questions about their "dota like" maps |
| 20:26.25 | Suterusu | or |
| 20:26.26 | pinzu | and trying to coppy dota is fail |
| 20:26.32 | Rayden | well, i'm not copying dota |
| 20:26.38 | Suterusu | "I spawn units, haw is i maeks them atack?" |
| 20:26.42 | Rayden | and it's the easiest way to describe the way i want my lobby units to work |
| 20:26.43 | pinzu | no offence towards anyone trying though* |
| 20:26.49 | Vulfe | AoS is a fun gametype |
| 20:26.50 | Vulfe | go die |
| 20:26.55 | Rayden | indeed |
| 20:26.55 | Suterusu | and everyone says "I'm not copying dota, it's just //dota-like//" |
| 20:27.06 | Rayden | i played AoS in the war3 beta |
| 20:27.09 | Rayden | twas awesome |
| 20:27.12 | Vulfe | I played AoS in SC1 |
| 20:27.13 | Vulfe | it sucked |
| 20:27.15 | Suterusu | and i'm like, does it have heros? lanes? spawning creeps? yeah, it's dota |
| 20:27.21 | Vulfe | that's called AoS |
| 20:27.24 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 20:27.29 | Vulfe | DotA is DotA |
| 20:27.34 | Vulfe | things like DotA are not DotA |
| 20:27.51 | Rayden | i would agree |
| 20:27.52 | Suterusu | "dota-like" |
| 20:27.54 | Rayden | but most noobs don't know AoS |
| 20:27.55 | Vulfe | AoS existed long before DotA was ever popular |
| 20:28.01 | Vulfe | like in SC1 |
| 20:28.04 | AsaPhelps | my goal today is to figure out how to make a stone zealot shoot lasers from his eyes |
| 20:28.04 | Vulfe | (where it sucked) |
| 20:28.16 | Rayden | AsaPhelps, your events have to be proper |
| 20:28.22 | Vulfe | don't stone zealots already do that, Asaphelps |
| 20:28.28 | AsaPhelps | events of the attack actor? |
| 20:28.28 | Suterusu | everyone is trying to make the next dota, or a dota like map that "improves" on dota |
| 20:28.35 | onetwo | my goal is to find a good splat model for my towers |
| 20:28.39 | onetwo | this sucks |
| 20:28.46 | onetwo | i tried terran tarmac but its angled |
| 20:28.47 | pinzu | my goal is to understand the laws of physics |
| 20:28.48 | onetwo | and you cant turn splats |
| 20:28.52 | Vulfe | How are you using the splats |
| 20:28.55 | Vulfe | as a base? |
| 20:28.56 | pinzu | and implement a simplified version in my map |
| 20:28.59 | pinzu | but meehhh... |
| 20:29.00 | onetwo | no just as an indicator |
| 20:29.01 | onetwo | under your towers |
| 20:29.04 | Vulfe | ah |
| 20:29.04 | onetwo | of their blockage |
| 20:29.08 | Vulfe | oh okay |
| 20:29.13 | onetwo | i just tried supply depot lowered |
| 20:29.14 | Vulfe | you can't turn splats? -_- |
| 20:29.15 | onetwo | but it doesnt show up |
| 20:29.20 | onetwo | no i tried to set facing |
| 20:29.23 | onetwo | and it didnt work |
| 20:29.25 | Vulfe | raage |
| 20:29.33 | Vulfe | can you turn facing in the model itself? |
| 20:29.35 | Vulfe | probably not |
| 20:29.36 | Vulfe | lame |
| 20:29.52 | AsaPhelps | Rayden which actor should I look at? |
| 20:29.56 | Vulfe | tarmac also has like 5 variations |
| 20:30.04 | Vulfe | of different size |
| 20:30.20 | onetwo | yeah i had the perfect one |
| 20:30.25 | onetwo | but its at 45 degrees |
| 20:30.25 | Vulfe | ah |
| 20:30.27 | Vulfe | well |
| 20:30.30 | onetwo | i cant find any other models |
| 20:30.38 | Vulfe | the funny thing is |
| 20:30.42 | Driscoll | how do i get a unit's energy ina trigger? |
| 20:30.43 | Vulfe | maps should be made at diagonals |
| 20:30.50 | Vulfe | but buildings don't work well on them |
| 20:30.50 | Vulfe | lol |
| 20:30.56 | Rayden | AsaPhelps, the attack actor |
| 20:31.29 | Vail | Rayden what actor event controls where a missile launches from? |
| 20:31.34 | AsaPhelps | attack actor of the weapon right |
| 20:31.35 | Vulfe | because most textures and doodads are made to be used on diagonals x.x |
| 20:31.47 | Rayden | it's not the event, it's the launch attachment query, but if your events are wrong it doesn't work |
| 20:31.54 | onetwo | yeah |
| 20:32.00 | onetwo | so does anyone know a good splat model |
| 20:32.02 | onetwo | for under my towers |
| 20:32.06 | Vulfe | well |
| 20:32.07 | onetwo | besides lamo terran tarmac |
| 20:32.11 | onetwo | or supply depot lowered |
| 20:32.12 | Vulfe | you could try something circular |
| 20:32.15 | Vail | neither does it work if you are using the wrong missle unit |
| 20:32.17 | onetwo | hmm |
| 20:32.17 | Rayden | onetwo, so you have a map with 2 teams and team specific starting locations and players can move around in the lobby to pick their teams? |
| 20:32.18 | Vulfe | but idk if you want that |
| 20:32.25 | onetwo | no |
| 20:32.26 | onetwo | i dont |
| 20:32.33 | Rayden | no one does |
| 20:32.37 | onetwo | i have a map where the host can choose between 3/5/7 rounds in a dropdown |
| 20:32.39 | Fromethius | asaphelps |
| 20:32.40 | onetwo | before the game goes public |
| 20:32.43 | AsaPhelps | From. |
| 20:32.50 | onetwo | you CANT have players move themself aruond |
| 20:32.57 | onetwo | you CAN let them choose a team 1 or 2 field on themselves |
| 20:33.01 | onetwo | thatll affect something ingame |
| 20:33.10 | Rayden | what do you mean, go public? |
| 20:33.16 | onetwo | well its bugged |
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| 20:33.21 | onetwo | when you hit "make public" |
| 20:33.24 | Fromethius | ok so i just got the evasion working properly asaphelps and i remember you were wondering how to do critical hits |
| 20:33.25 | onetwo | it locks my game attribute |
| 20:33.28 | onetwo | even though i checked that it shouldnt |
| 20:33.39 | Rayden | do you know where downloaded maps go? |
| 20:33.43 | Rayden | i want to look at one, but i cant find it |
| 20:33.56 | Fromethius | so i was thinking... couldn't you just have the attack apply a behavior to the target unit that has a damage response chance of .1 and multiply damage taken by 2? |
| 20:33.56 | onetwo | file->Open->Battle.net |
| 20:34.33 | AsaPhelps | well you could from |
| 20:34.38 | Fromethius | how would you do it? |
| 20:34.42 | AsaPhelps | but that might cause exploits |
| 20:34.44 | pinzu | can someone explain to me how to get started with the data editor; e.g I want to change a model of a dummy unit to ground props |
| 20:34.49 | AsaPhelps | like the guy would take 2x damage from everything |
| 20:34.58 | Fromethius | well you make it last for only like .5 seconds |
| 20:35.04 | AsaPhelps | yeah but even so |
| 20:35.08 | Fromethius | or you apply it before the attack and remove it after the attack |
| 20:35.18 | goomba_ | fromethius |
| 20:35.21 | goomba_ | new data challenge |
| 20:35.24 | Fromethius | goomba_! |
| 20:35.39 | goomba_ | random aoe on an ability's damage :> |
| 20:35.39 | Rayden | oh wow |
| 20:35.44 | Rayden | you can just browse bnet maps from the editor |
| 20:35.49 | Rayden | but you have to be fracking logged in! |
| 20:35.59 | Fromethius | goomba_ you can already do that |
| 20:36.05 | goomba_ | is it another field |
| 20:36.10 | AsaPhelps | how would you apply it before the attack |
| 20:36.12 | goomba_ | that im too dumb to look at |
| 20:36.17 | Fromethius | just give the effect an aoe and make the damage 0 and make the effect - random value 100 or something.. wouldn't that work? |
| 20:36.27 | goomba_ | i want the aoe to be random |
| 20:36.32 | Fromethius | oh, the size? |
| 20:36.32 | goomba_ | not the damage |
| 20:36.33 | goomba_ | yea |
| 20:36.38 | Fromethius | hmmmmmmm |
| 20:36.56 | Fromethius | probably would use an effect of type switch |
| 20:37.14 | AsaPhelps | not sure from |
| 20:37.15 | Fromethius | and have the search object duplicate 5 times |
| 20:37.17 | goomba_ | how would you designate between the different weapons |
| 20:37.21 | goomba_ | randomly? |
| 20:37.22 | Fromethius | first with a radius of 1, then with a radius of 2, etc. |
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| 20:37.43 | onetwo | using temple stone inlay |
| 20:37.44 | onetwo | for the splat |
| 20:37.51 | Fromethius | then you need to make a validator for each search |
| 20:38.04 | Fromethius | and for the validator just use... time of day. rofl.. no but i'm sure there's some type of validator you could use |
| 20:38.19 | goomba_ | game time elapsed passed |
| 20:38.23 | Fromethius | yeah that's fine |
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| 20:38.28 | goomba_ | hmmm |
| 20:38.31 | Fromethius | that wasn't that hard =d |
| 20:38.46 | Vail | if it works |
| 20:38.46 | goomba_ | im fail with data editor |
| 20:38.51 | Fromethius | oh, it'll work |
| 20:39.48 | onetwo | damnit the inlay doesnt show up |
| 20:39.59 | Fisker | Zealot rushes are currently too powerful at various skill levels, particularly those that rely on rapidly assaulting an enemy base from nearby "proxy" gateways. |
| 20:40.11 | Rayden | turns out i can't actually search for a battle.net map from the editor? |
| 20:41.05 | Fromethius | yeah fisker i saw that oo |
| 20:41.06 | Fromethius | too* |
| 20:41.38 | Rayden | i can't find nexus wars |
| 20:41.41 | Fromethius | shame |
| 20:41.49 | Fisker | basically my fault :( |
| 20:41.54 | Fromethius | hah |
| 20:41.58 | Fromethius | you do that strat a lot? |
| 20:41.58 | Fisker | i proxied all of my fights |
| 20:42.01 | Fisker | only lost 1 |
| 20:42.05 | Fisker | (out of 6) |
| 20:42.16 | Fromethius | this is why we can't have nice things |
| 20:42.17 | Rayden | oh, if maps are locked can you not see them? |
| 20:42.23 | Rayden | i want to look and see how nexus wars did something! |
| 20:42.23 | Rayden | arg |
| 20:42.31 | Fisker | exactly Fromethius |
| 20:42.39 | Fisker | it's kind of a n00b thing anyway |
| 20:42.58 | Fisker | The only reason i lost the 6th one was because he actually scouted his own base |
| 20:43.02 | goomba_ | zealot rush is bad lol |
| 20:44.16 | goomba_ | roach or marauder/reaper |
| 20:44.26 | goomba_ | or bunker or spine crawler |
| 20:47.09 | rooj | im getting tired of people cannon rushing |
| 20:47.24 | rooj | rather, when people on my team do it |
| 20:47.29 | rooj | because i mean |
| 20:47.30 | rooj | cool |
| 20:47.34 | rooj | they took out some noob |
| 20:47.36 | goomba_ | lol i know what you mean |
| 20:47.41 | rooj | but then they dont build any units |
| 20:47.50 | goomba_ | some tards i was playing with were doing that |
| 20:48.01 | goomba_ | and then complain mid-late game when im the only one macroing an army |
| 20:48.09 | rooj | so i end up losing a lot when someone on my team does it |
| 20:49.04 | rooj | when is the void ray nerf |
| 20:49.13 | rooj | THE TIME IS AT HAND |
| 20:49.20 | goomba_ | scouting > void ray |
| 20:49.23 | Zachet | Well, if that's the case it would be 1 for 1... so no big lose... it's easy to switch from a cannon rush to units or defensive position though |
| 20:49.53 | rooj | yeah but most of them just keep building cannons |
| 20:49.55 | Zachet | Leaves you open to quick expand if it fails or even succeeds |
| 20:49.58 | Zachet | yeah =/ |
| 20:49.58 | goomba_ | cannon rushes fuck your economy |
| 20:50.05 | goomba_ | and leaves your entire base vulnerable |
| 20:50.09 | goomba_ | for almost all of early game |
| 20:50.18 | rooj | while the person they owned goes off to just rebuild |
| 20:50.19 | Zachet | Eh, only if they fail |
| 20:50.27 | rooj | sure they got slowed down hugely |
| 20:51.29 | rooj | yeah and thats another thing |
| 20:51.36 | Zachet | Depends who you're play against though... have you always check your own base |
| 20:51.40 | rooj | half the time while theyre out cannon rushing |
| 20:51.42 | onetwo | man splat models seem to rotate based on original mode |
| 20:51.43 | goomba_ | its not viable in high level play lol |
| 20:51.43 | onetwo | model |
| 20:51.45 | onetwo | so weird |
| 20:51.54 | rooj | someone from the other team comes in and kills their base in like 2 seconds |
| 20:52.22 | Zachet | Actually it is viable to a degree in high level play just have to do it right and know how to cut your loses to leave an even or beneficial mineral lose |
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| 20:52.43 | Motive | opening sc2mapster.com and hearing someones voice talking |
| 20:52.45 | Motive | sucks. |
| 20:52.49 | Zachet | ^ |
| 20:52.57 | goomba_ | yeah auto play on the stream is annoying |
| 20:53.06 | goomba_ | not that the stream is bad, im just not intending to watch it lol |
| 20:53.28 | rooj | you know what has amazed me |
| 20:53.40 | rooj | the lack of people who use voice chat in SC2 |
| 20:53.44 | RedWraith | argh |
| 20:53.46 | Motive | Thank God |
| 20:53.51 | RedWraith | I can't get my spell to kill shit |
| 20:53.55 | goomba_ | vent+music lol |
| 20:53.56 | Motive | The last thing I want to do is hear your voice while I'm playing with you. |
| 20:53.57 | Motive | Lol |
| 20:54.08 | rooj | i guess i got used to people in WoW and EQ2 REQUIRING you to use it |
| 20:54.11 | rooj | yeah i'm glad too |
| 20:54.19 | goomba_ | i mute people that do |
| 20:54.23 | Motive | ^ |
| 20:54.23 | goomba_ | its just annoying |
| 20:54.25 | goomba_ | trying to focus... |
| 20:54.29 | rooj | same |
| 20:54.39 | Motive | Trying to focus ... "HUR DUR DUR SO U LIEK STARCRAFT?" |
| 20:54.44 | goomba_ | rofl |
| 20:54.44 | rooj | LOL |
| 20:54.48 | Zachet | Voice chat in SC2 works for someone? |
| 20:55.04 | goomba_ | works fine for me |
| 20:55.10 | Motive | I'm on a Mac and it works fine |
| 20:55.14 | Motive | Miracle imo |
| 20:55.15 | Zachet | Has never worked since beta 1 for me or anyone I know =/ |
| 20:55.16 | Zachet | hmm |
| 20:55.56 | RedWraith | I'm trying to get a spell to go around a unit after its timed life expires. The unit it spawns in the same set spawns, but the kill effect never goes off. |
| 20:56.23 | RedWraith | Search has 360 degrees/-1 max/2 radius, Kill is flagged |
| 20:56.30 | RedWraith | it's a damage effect |
| 20:56.45 | rooj | oh zachet, maybe thats why so few people use it then, lol |
| 20:56.48 | jorgenpt | Can you put an image in Text? |
| 20:57.09 | goomba_ | ASCII! |
| 20:57.10 | RedWraith | impact location is caster unit |
| 20:57.17 | RedWraith | origin location is source unit |
| 20:57.24 | RedWraith | it's after the unit is dead, though, or should be. |
| 20:57.49 | RedWraith | I'm assuming it's the impact/origin locations, since I have no idea what those mean. :[ |
| 20:57.50 | goomba_ | http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj215/Meatwagonz/chair.jpg?t=1282942657 |
| 20:58.08 | RedWraith | yet at the same time |
| 20:58.12 | goomba_ | chair in text! |
| 20:58.12 | RedWraith | the spawn uses Caster Unit |
| 20:58.25 | jorgenpt | How can you simulate the cost in tooltips? |
| 20:58.26 | Zachet | you made a chair to look like your Ascii art?! |
| 20:58.27 | HeyRevolver | so did molsterr die or did he just put me on ignore? |
| 20:58.38 | goomba_ | xD |
| 20:58.44 | goomba_ | i did that one day when i was really bored... |
| 20:59.17 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 20:59.24 | Zachet | We need new chairs at work... |
| 20:59.26 | HeyRevolver | you must have been _really_ bored |
| 20:59.48 | goomba_ | i aspired to be a really cool ascii artist |
| 21:00.21 | HeyRevolver | well then that was great practice |
| 21:00.27 | HeyRevolver | the world needs more ascii artists imo |
| 21:00.30 | goomba_ | now i do 3d art |
| 21:00.43 | goomba_ | lol |
| 21:06.08 | Rayden | what does setting the game variant: premade game do? |
| 21:07.11 | mike9055 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeoOR_NWHyo&feature=player_embedded |
| 21:09.32 | RedWraith | there we go |
| 21:09.35 | RedWraith | maximum count ftl |
| 21:09.38 | pinzu | HAAHAA |
| 21:09.51 | pinzu | so ima say stupid americans |
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| 21:10.15 | Nuclear_ | ok |
| 21:10.23 | HeyRevolver | yo |
| 21:10.26 | mike9055 | "i hope the ice cream truck was okay" |
| 21:10.35 | pinzu | ye |
| 21:10.37 | Nuclear_ | well how u want me to send? |
| 21:10.46 | Guest61920 | ive terrainized half of it |
| 21:10.56 | Guest61920 | so farf |
| 21:11.06 | HeyRevolver | ok |
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| 21:11.15 | HeyRevolver | upload it to mediafire.com |
| 21:11.18 | Guest61920 | k |
| 21:11.20 | HeyRevolver | and msg me the link |
| 21:11.25 | Guest61920 | got it |
| 21:13.11 | Guest61920 | ok |
| 21:13.18 | Guest61920 | my triggers are not quite done yet |
| 21:13.22 | Guest61920 | but its justa bout there |
| 21:13.23 | Guest61920 | http://www.mediafire.com/?7kt2yclwp7rejt9 |
| 21:13.28 | HeyRevolver | ok |
| 21:13.33 | HeyRevolver | I will take a look at it |
| 21:13.35 | Guest61920 | kk |
| 21:13.40 | Guest61920 | dont move soda machines |
| 21:13.41 | Guest61920 | though |
| 21:13.50 | Guest61920 | lol |
| 21:14.32 | Guest61920 | ok pm me on mapster later to get ahold of me NuclearNuke |
| 21:14.44 | HeyRevolver | what exactly do you want me to do? |
| 21:15.05 | Guest61920 | just make it look nice |
| 21:15.07 | Guest61920 | move doodads |
| 21:15.11 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 21:15.12 | Guest61920 | add doodads |
| 21:15.15 | Guest61920 | anything u like |
| 21:15.22 | Guest61920 | go crazy |
| 21:15.30 | pinzu | could someone help me out abit with data editor? |
| 21:15.41 | Guest61920 | sorry no i cant |
| 21:15.43 | HeyRevolver | ok if I do this will you do the data editing for my map? |
| 21:15.43 | Driscoll | ha, just made a trigger that accidentally made characters spin around like balerinas as they walked |
| 21:15.53 | Guest61920 | like what kind? |
| 21:15.53 | Driscoll | let me know if anyone needs that for their dance recital simulator |
| 21:16.01 | pinzu | http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg143/Chaago/mingolf1.png |
| 21:16.02 | Guest61920 | im like a mediocer data editor |
| 21:16.09 | HeyRevolver | like make 40 abilities, 40 requirements, 40 behaviors, 40 effects, 40 items, units and actors |
| 21:16.10 | HeyRevolver | no biggie |
| 21:16.12 | pinzu | well basically I cant do anything |
| 21:16.14 | Guest61920 | o ok |
| 21:16.18 | Guest61920 | lol no way |
| 21:16.21 | pinzu | I want to use those models |
| 21:16.22 | Guest61920 | thats alot |
| 21:16.25 | HeyRevolver | lol i know |
| 21:16.33 | Guest61920 | i can do items |
| 21:16.38 | Guest61920 | some at least |
| 21:16.38 | pinzu | ground props |
| 21:16.40 | Guest61920 | or i can teach |
| 21:16.44 | pinzu | and make a dummy unit use them |
| 21:16.45 | HeyRevolver | thatd be cool |
| 21:16.55 | Guest61920 | im not like super good though |
| 21:17.03 | RedWraith | yay my ability works |
| 21:17.05 | RedWraith | :D |
| 21:17.09 | Guest61920 | wats ur sc2mapster accout name? |
| 21:17.14 | pinzu | someone please, help out |
| 21:17.14 | HeyRevolver | HeyRevolver |
| 21:17.16 | Guest61920 | soo i can send a pm to u |
| 21:17.17 | Guest61920 | k |
| 21:17.23 | HeyRevolver | I won't be able to work on the terrain tonight |
| 21:17.46 | Guest61920 | np |
| 21:17.52 | Guest61920 | i gtg in about 5 mins |
| 21:17.56 | Guest61920 | to work |
| 21:18.11 | Guest61920 | no big rush |
| 21:18.12 | Guest61920 | take ur time |
| 21:18.23 | Guest61920 | well i gtg |
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| 21:18.25 | AsaPhelps | quiet in here |
| 21:18.26 | Guest61920 | later |
| 21:18.28 | HeyRevolver | kk later manm |
| 21:18.31 | goomba_ | floop |
| 21:20.05 | pinzu | http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg143/Chaago/mingolf1.png |
| 21:20.18 | pinzu | how do I make a unit use that doodad model |
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| 21:20.42 | pinzu | ground props* |
| 21:21.14 | Otixa | thumbs up |
| 21:22.39 | AsaPhelps | Okay, I can't figure this out and its making me sad |
| 21:24.19 | AsaPhelps | I just want my zealot to shoot battlecruiser lasers from its eyes and not crotch |
| 21:24.40 | Driscoll | why on earth would you want that |
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| 21:24.42 | Driscoll | it sounds perfect already |
| 21:24.53 | AsaPhelps | I want it to shoot a giant laser from its crotch |
| 21:24.55 | pinzu_ | my laoptop just overheated I think oO |
| 21:25.33 | pinzu_ | ping timed out |
| 21:25.35 | pinzu_ | ? |
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| 21:28.10 | rooj | pinzu |
| 21:28.35 | rooj | you need the unit, then you need an actor for the unit, you change the model within the actor |
| 21:31.09 | Nash|327 | minigolf hah |
| 21:31.49 | pinzu_ | okey now I have duplicated the unit. |
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| 21:33.02 | pinzu_ | Now I made the actor. |
| 21:33.11 | pinzu_ | its based on a unit, how do I make the unit use that actor? |
| 21:33.29 | pinzu_ | within the actor ay.. hmm.. |
| 21:33.30 | Rayden | at the top of the actor |
| 21:33.31 | Rayden | set the token |
| 21:33.33 | Rayden | to be your unit |
| 21:33.50 | Rayden | you might have to mess with events to make sure they reference your unit |
| 21:35.48 | Rayden | wtb trigger debugger |
| 21:37.20 | Nash|327 | brain = trigger debugger |
| 21:38.12 | AsaPhelps | I still can't figure this out rayden |
| 21:38.17 | FahqueL | @asaphelps I can help |
| 21:38.26 | AsaPhelps | Do you know what I'm trying to do fah? |
| 21:38.27 | FahqueL | is the weapon a beam or missile |
| 21:38.33 | AsaPhelps | its a missile |
| 21:38.34 | FahqueL | change launch location |
| 21:38.37 | AsaPhelps | I know what the attachment points are |
| 21:38.39 | FahqueL | yeah i can help |
| 21:38.47 | FahqueL | you know how to view attach points on the models? |
| 21:39.03 | AsaPhelps | yes |
| 21:39.12 | pinzu_ | umm |
| 21:39.16 | FahqueL | what is the name of attach point u want |
| 21:39.16 | pinzu_ | I cant see my unit ingame |
| 21:39.20 | pinzu_ | is that a good sign? ;o |
| 21:39.25 | Nash|327 | clearly |
| 21:39.27 | pinzu_ | I mean in the editor* |
| 21:39.39 | FahqueL | pinzu, ur actor events dont have "unitbirth.unitname >>>Create" |
| 21:39.43 | FahqueL | wait |
| 21:39.54 | FahqueL | pinzu, do you see a sphere blob or nothing at all |
| 21:40.02 | FahqueL | halfSphere blob |
| 21:40.11 | pinzu_ | inn the editor: nothing at all |
| 21:40.14 | Nash|327 | white globe of death plzkthx |
| 21:40.21 | AsaPhelps | e_attachWeaponRight |
| 21:40.24 | pinzu_ | in game: sphere blob |
| 21:40.36 | AsaPhelps | Ref_weapon Right |
| 21:40.41 | FahqueL | ur model link is broken in your actor |
| 21:41.01 | FahqueL | check the "model" object make sure the "Model" field is set to the correct .m3 file |
| 21:41.02 | AsaPhelps | click your actor and check its model |
| 21:41.25 | FahqueL | and if that seems correct, you need to save, close editor entirely, and reopen editor |
| 21:41.29 | FahqueL | ^^^^^fucking bugs |
| 21:41.49 | FahqueL | ok asa: all u needed to know is "weaponright" |
| 21:42.00 | AsaPhelps | so fah, for the stone zealot I looked at the attack actor but I couldn't figure out how it uses those points for the weapons |
| 21:42.02 | FahqueL | now go to your zealots attack type actor |
| 21:42.15 | AsaPhelps | well I gave it the battlecruiser weapon |
| 21:42.21 | FahqueL | what model are you working with, zealot or stone zealot |
| 21:42.23 | AsaPhelps | should I modify the weapon attack actor or the stone zealot's? |
| 21:42.27 | AsaPhelps | stone zealot |
| 21:42.32 | pinzu_ | Model/model flags is the correct model? |
| 21:42.34 | tbye | noob alert... which action calls my custom function? |
| 21:42.38 | FahqueL | ok let me open the stone zealot myself |
| 21:42.45 | tbye | which action do I use to call my custom func? |
| 21:43.12 | pinzu_ | search in function |
| 21:43.16 | pinzu_ | the function name |
| 21:43.32 | pinzu_ | in actions* the function name |
| 21:44.01 | tbye | so I have to use it with a variable set action though? |
| 21:44.04 | tbye | or something like that? |
| 21:44.13 | FahqueL | ok so weapon left and right are both desirable for your launch |
| 21:44.19 | tbye | I have a funciton initAttackWave(params,...) |
| 21:44.24 | pinzu_ | yes |
| 21:44.27 | tbye | how would I call that for example |
| 21:44.32 | tbye | k |
| 21:44.34 | tbye | I'll do that |
| 21:44.40 | tbye | it returns none... but anyway |
| 21:44.50 | pinzu_ | you could also do it inside a action that uses that function value |
| 21:44.52 | AsaPhelps | right fah |
| 21:44.57 | tbye | k |
| 21:44.58 | pinzu_ | depends on what you are using it for |
| 21:45.00 | tbye | thanks pinzu |
| 21:45.08 | AsaPhelps | like if I use the hellion flame thrower it works, but not for battlecruiser |
| 21:45.14 | AsaPhelps | I suspect turret weapons work fine |
| 21:45.33 | pinzu_ | *I restarted the editor, and still halfwhite spheree blobls ;/ |
| 21:45.57 | AsaPhelps | what do you have under your model |
| 21:46.22 | pinzu_ | what u mean? |
| 21:46.51 | FahqueL | ok here is my issue, im glad ur using missile cause i havent really learned beams yet |
| 21:46.58 | FahqueL | and stonezealot default usese beams |
| 21:47.13 | Saeris | hmmmm |
| 21:47.15 | tbye | pinzu_: my function isn't showing up in the function list. Do I need to assign it somehow? |
| 21:47.17 | FahqueL | its gonna be more useful to look at a missile firing unit such as brutalisk |
| 21:47.24 | FahqueL | asa do you have vent? |
| 21:47.27 | Nash|327 | BEAMS PEWPEWPEW |
| 21:47.33 | Saeris | how would i check to see the last time i was mentioned? |
| 21:47.37 | AsaPhelps | i could download it |
| 21:47.47 | FahqueL | eh no need yet |
| 21:47.50 | AsaPhelps | sc2mapster's vent? |
| 21:47.50 | FahqueL | go to pm though |
| 21:47.51 | Saeris | someone said my name hours ago >.< |
| 21:47.59 | FahqueL | yeah im idling on mapster vent all day |
| 21:48.01 | FahqueL | its dead |
| 21:48.08 | Nash|327 | /lastlog if your clients has that |
| 21:48.23 | Saeris | probably not >.< |
| 21:48.29 | Nash|327 | log search |
| 21:48.44 | Saeris | oh wait nvm |
| 21:48.48 | Saeris | they msg'd me directly |
| 21:48.51 | Saeris | stupid pidgin |
| 21:49.02 | Nash|327 | "OMG GET A REAL CLIENT", etc |
| 21:50.00 | pinzu_ | so how do I make the actor show the actual model and not the white blob? :> |
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| 21:53.33 | Nash|327 | majicks |
| 21:53.41 | Nash|327 | and fairy dust |
| 21:54.21 | Nash|327 | If you truly believe the model is there, you will see it! |
| 21:54.34 | tbye | you gots to believes |
| 21:55.18 | Rayden | i have more lobby questions, someone here who knows the game variant sstuff? |
| 21:55.59 | pinzu_ | I BELIVE I BELIVE |
| 21:56.13 | Nash|327 | game variants are evil |
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| 21:56.21 | pinzu_ | (ignores that the model is a white blob, and continues making triggers) |
| 21:56.23 | Nash|327 | and breaks your publishing |
| 21:56.26 | HeyRevolver | I BELIEVE IN A THING CALLED LOOOVE> JUST LISTEN TO THA RYTHM OF THA HEAAAART |
| 21:56.29 | Nash|327 | I know that! |
| 21:56.42 | Rayden | what happens if i set up game variants for 2 teams and 3 teams and 4 teams? |
| 21:56.44 | tbye | one way ticket to hell and back |
| 21:56.45 | Nash|327 | I don't believe in a thing called love. |
| 21:56.46 | Rayden | how do i tell it which one to use? |
| 21:57.01 | HeyRevolver | I BELIEVE IN A THING CALLED LOVE, WE'LL BE ROCKIN TIL THE SUN GOES DOWN |
| 21:57.03 | pinzu_ | gais |
| 21:57.04 | pinzu_ | http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg143/Chaago/?action=view¤t=mingolf1.png |
| 21:57.07 | Nash|327 | the player would choose... |
| 21:57.08 | pinzu_ | should the power bar |
| 21:57.08 | Rayden | the music video for that song is messed up |
| 21:57.12 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 21:57.15 | pinzu_ | be a "mule bar" |
| 21:57.15 | HeyRevolver | dde i saw them in concert |
| 21:57.18 | HeyRevolver | they are so awesome |
| 21:57.18 | pinzu_ | over the club |
| 21:57.22 | HeyRevolver | an 80's metal hair band |
| 21:57.26 | HeyRevolver | in the 2000's |
| 21:57.33 | Rayden | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYNYb30nxU |
| 21:57.34 | Rayden | w |
| 21:57.34 | Rayden | t |
| 21:57.35 | Rayden | f |
| 21:57.39 | pinzu_ | or a big dialog bar |
| 21:57.42 | HeyRevolver | they own |
| 21:57.53 | Nash|327 | I don't like love songs. |
| 21:57.59 | Nash|327 | Love is an illusion. |
| 21:58.01 | HeyRevolver | Rayden their concert was seriously one of the most fun concerts i have ever been to |
| 21:58.11 | Rayden | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYNYb30nxU#t=0m28s |
| 21:58.15 | Rayden | weirdest part |
| 21:58.16 | HeyRevolver | they fuckin rock out |
| 21:58.20 | Rayden | i like the song |
| 21:58.23 | Nash|327 | A societal construct, a euphemism for sexual attraction. |
| 21:58.34 | HeyRevolver | You do know they are being satirical right? |
| 21:58.41 | Rayden | about what? |
| 21:58.45 | HeyRevolver | 80's metal music |
| 21:58.50 | HeyRevolver | they are basically one huge joke |
| 21:58.52 | HeyRevolver | and they know it |
| 21:58.58 | Rayden | that's fine |
| 21:58.58 | HeyRevolver | thats why their shit is so weird |
| 21:59.00 | Rayden | it's still weird |
| 21:59.03 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 21:59.06 | HeyRevolver | thats the whole point |
| 21:59.09 | Rayden | huge frackin crab! |
| 21:59.14 | Rayden | hit its weak points for massive damage! |
| 21:59.19 | Nash|327 | Beat on the brat with a baseball bat! |
| 21:59.29 | HeyRevolver | the part where he is holding the rock above his head is brilliant |
| 21:59.34 | Nash|327 | MASSIVE DAMAGE you say? |
| 21:59.44 | Nash|327 | Historically accurate? |
| 22:00.11 | Rayden | based on historical battles |
| 22:00.18 | Rayden | that actually happened |
| 22:00.30 | Rayden | i added this lobby code that supposedly works, didn't work |
| 22:00.32 | Nash|327 | GIANT ENEMY CRAB |
| 22:00.46 | rulssi | Is there tutorial explaining all effect types? |
| 22:00.57 | HeyRevolver | i wish |
| 22:01.00 | rulssi | trying to make aoe attack :/ |
| 22:01.05 | Rayden | how so? |
| 22:01.07 | HeyRevolver | I can help |
| 22:01.08 | Nash|327 | that's easy |
| 22:01.11 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 22:01.17 | Rayden | i made a weapon that shoots multipel targets at once |
| 22:01.45 | rulssi | well i have marauder and i have modified (apply slow behavior) and (damage) |
| 22:01.51 | rulssi | edited some dmg, slow amount etc |
| 22:01.54 | Rayden | i want a game variants tutorial |
| 22:01.54 | HeyRevolver | I made a weapon that shoots out one huge mini nuke then explode 10 mortars around it, it has like a 20 radius |
| 22:01.55 | pinzu_ | its funny the most over the top thing in that video was the thumbs up in the end |
| 22:01.56 | pinzu_ | ;d |
| 22:02.00 | HeyRevolver | i blow up 00 people at a time |
| 22:02.02 | HeyRevolver | 100* |
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| 22:02.19 | Nash|327 | huge mini nuke? |
| 22:02.22 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 22:02.24 | Rayden | the best weapon i ever made was a weapon that turned the unit into a kamikaze missiles when it fired |
| 22:02.24 | Atlos | yo |
| 22:02.26 | HeyRevolver | i know that was an oxymoron my bad |
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| 22:02.47 | HeyRevolver | its a mininuke, but the explosion size is the same |
| 22:02.52 | HeyRevolver | just does less damage |
| 22:03.27 | HeyRevolver | oh yeah it also has an aoe stun |
| 22:03.31 | HeyRevolver | courtesy of Tosh |
| 22:03.38 | Atlos | howcome there's a bunch of duplicates on the map list for bnet? |
| 22:03.40 | HeyRevolver | but nothing ever lives through the blast |
| 22:03.53 | Nash|327 | and also SHOOTS SWORDS THAT SHOOT BEES |
| 22:04.00 | HeyRevolver | ohhh good idea |
| 22:04.00 | HeyRevolver | brb |
| 22:04.25 | HeyRevolver | pinzu_ (late reaction here) the thumbs up is awesome |
| 22:04.34 | HeyRevolver | gets me every time |
| 22:04.58 | HeyRevolver | Nash there are no bees, you got my hopes up |
| 22:05.36 | Nash|327 | mwahahahaha |
| 22:05.42 | Nash|327 | there are rainbows |
| 22:05.45 | HeyRevolver | =( |
| 22:05.46 | HeyRevolver | lies |
| 22:05.51 | Nash|327 | make a double rainbow gun |
| 22:05.54 | rulssi | argh, if i make new search area effect what do i choose in "based on" menu? |
| 22:05.57 | HeyRevolver | I would have made a rainbow gun that fills your hapiness bar |
| 22:06.22 | rulssi | CEffectEnumArea , CEffect or Weapon search area? |
| 22:06.25 | tbye | What does it mean? |
| 22:06.30 | tbye | Soooo beautiful... |
| 22:06.33 | HeyRevolver | My map doesnt use life and energy, ir uses Happiness and Excitement |
| 22:06.34 | Nash|327 | Rainbow doodad |
| 22:06.37 | Nash|327 | USE IT |
| 22:07.05 | Nash|327 | there's happy faces and all kinds of shit |
| 22:07.15 | Nash|327 | think someone took LSD and made doodads |
| 22:07.17 | HeyRevolver | rulssi, the only way I know how to do it is duplicate a weapon and its effects and behaviors |
| 22:07.18 | HeyRevolver | and edit |
| 22:07.30 | HeyRevolver | lol Nash i get that feeling sometimes too |
| 22:07.32 | Atlos | I don't think you need to make a based on for aynthing |
| 22:07.33 | Nash|327 | OMG A RAINBOW, MUST MAKE ONE |
| 22:07.49 | Atlos | I think that just duplicates the fields of that ability making it easier for you but isn't required |
| 22:08.51 | HeyRevolver | Well for me, if I dont duplicate and just edit the fields on the default item/unit it messe sup that item and when I try to edit damage it changes it across the board |
| 22:08.56 | HeyRevolver | or at least it used to |
| 22:09.31 | HeyRevolver | I am seriously worried about molsterr |
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| 22:14.22 | tbye | I'm seriously worried about the pizza guy finding my house |
| 22:14.56 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 22:16.46 | HeyRevolver | what pizzaplace? |
| 22:19.01 | Rayden | you better run and hide |
| 22:19.07 | Rayden | i mean, what if he finds you? |
| 22:19.08 | Rayden | what then? |
| 22:20.03 | HeyRevolver | hahahaha |
| 22:20.13 | HeyRevolver | well played |
| 22:21.43 | HeyRevolver | rraaaahhhhhh why won't it let me command the blimp unit to move |
| 22:21.52 | HeyRevolver | its on the damn command card and in its abilities |
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| 22:22.58 | pinzu | the data editor makes me want to kill myself.. |
| 22:23.16 | rulssi | same here |
| 22:25.19 | rulssi | blah, why doesnt it apply the slow to all units in the area -_- |
| 22:26.15 | tbye | dominos |
| 22:26.26 | tbye | i order from them cuz I like the pizza progress tracker |
| 22:28.12 | Rayden | the data editor is awesome compared to the lobby editor |
| 22:28.38 | Sixen | lol... |
| 22:28.45 | Sixen | dominos, yeah? |
| 22:28.50 | jorgenpt | Hm |
| 22:29.00 | jorgenpt | Can someone extract a file from the SC2 MPQs for me? |
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| 22:29.03 | jorgenpt | CommandPanel.SC2Layout |
| 22:29.12 | jorgenpt | I'd greatly appreciate it. :) |
| 22:30.28 | Sixen | I'd totally do it, but I don't have SC2 on my laptop |
| 22:31.41 | Komodo1138 | jorgenpt, do you know the location of that file |
| 22:31.46 | jorgenpt | Naw :( |
| 22:32.34 | Rayden | i'm about to give up on this lobby thing |
| 22:32.35 | Rayden | nothing works |
| 22:35.41 | pinzu | Although this rush would never outright destroy the zerg player, we feel zerg suffers too much of a disadvantage from either having to cancel the fast expansion, or getting trapped inside the main base for too long, so we are also increasing the bunker build time from 30 to 35 seconds. |
| 22:35.43 | AsaPhelps | lobby sucks because of how players enter |
| 22:35.58 | pinzu | what, the zerg acording to blizzard must always be able to fast expand? :D |
| 22:36.07 | Rayden | AsaPhelps, i cannot get my teams to work |
| 22:36.27 | AsaPhelps | i don't have a solution |
| 22:36.38 | AsaPhelps | but ray my zealot fires lasers from his head now, but not from his eyes |
| 22:36.47 | Rayden | how can you tell? |
| 22:36.49 | Rayden | so small |
| 22:38.06 | AsaPhelps | it looks like its from his head |
| 22:38.12 | AsaPhelps | if you want to look at the map you can |
| 22:38.20 | Rayden | there probably aren't locations at his eyes |
| 22:38.24 | rulssi | how can i make my unit splash attack apply effect to other units in the splash area also? |
| 22:38.27 | AsaPhelps | there are attachment points there |
| 22:38.32 | AsaPhelps | its where the beams fire from normally |
| 22:38.35 | AsaPhelps | in campaign |
| 22:38.39 | AsaPhelps | weaponleft and weaponright |
| 22:38.51 | Rayden | i need food |
| 22:39.10 | Komodo1138 | jorgenpt, i just took a quick looking around the files and i dont see the cammandpanel.sc2layout |
| 22:39.19 | jorgenpt | Any other SC2Layouts? |
| 22:39.36 | Komodo1138 | didnt see any |
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| 22:39.52 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 22:40.29 | Komodo1138 | where does it say commandpalne.sc2layout so i can see if there is a file location anywhere |
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| 22:43.38 | Otixa | Solik |
| 22:43.41 | Otixa | GG guise |
| 22:44.20 | depthsofchaos | i owned yar face so hard otixa :o |
| 22:44.55 | Otixa | fu, you won by 1 kill >:[ |
| 22:44.57 | Mograth | oh well |
| 22:45.01 | Mograth | bnet really needs more maps |
| 22:45.01 | Otixa | I blame fucking mirvrararararrgh |
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| 22:46.39 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 22:46.43 | Nash|327 | I just play my map |
| 22:46.50 | Nash|327 | all the time |
| 22:47.46 | Nash|327 | I just played with some noobs |
| 22:48.03 | Nash|327 | one guy was ghost and kept running ahead and aggroing lots of zerg |
| 22:48.08 | Nash|327 | and getting killed |
| 22:48.13 | Nash|327 | and then rage quit |
| 22:48.14 | AsaPhelps | what map is yours |
| 22:48.18 | Nash|327 | Fringe |
| 22:48.22 | AsaPhelps | haven't played |
| 22:48.33 | Nash|327 | Are you on EU though? |
| 22:49.26 | Mograth | fringe keeps still crashing 8[ |
| 22:49.34 | Mograth | i have no idea why |
| 22:49.43 | pinzu | could someone help me design a "physic engine" for 2d movment |
| 22:49.45 | Otixa | Mograth, your comp sucks >:[ |
| 22:49.46 | Otixa | l2p |
| 22:49.51 | Nash|327 | unit count is 1450 |
| 22:49.56 | Mograth | its not just mine, you know. |
| 22:50.02 | Mograth | it loads smooth until about 55% |
| 22:50.16 | Mograth | at that point its putting the CPU to 50% and just keeps massing the ram |
| 22:50.27 | Otixa | ;/ |
| 22:50.32 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 22:50.33 | Mograth | but there is nothing inside the map from what i've heard what should use so much hardware O_o |
| 22:50.34 | Nash|327 | is it the unit count, though? |
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| 22:50.49 | Mograth | wrong button. |
| 22:50.50 | Mograth | might be |
| 22:50.57 | Mograth | try to spawn units instead of placement |
| 22:51.00 | Nash|327 | there's foliage, doodads, lots of units and a few triggers |
| 22:51.03 | Mograth | its better for your perfomance. |
| 22:51.06 | Otixa | Also |
| 22:51.13 | Nash|327 | I have been converting to trigger spawns |
| 22:51.17 | Otixa | Should prolly come up with stuff to talk about for next week ;p |
| 22:51.23 | Nash|327 | takes a while though |
| 22:51.31 | Xaragoth | well, study stuff is over for now |
| 22:51.33 | AsaPhelps | nash are you any good with attachments or launch queries? |
| 22:51.36 | Nash|327 | was llike 2800 units at first |
| 22:51.44 | Nash|327 | No, I am horrible with actors. |
| 22:51.47 | Otixa | wut study stuff? |
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| 22:52.21 | AsaPhelps | where is pm when you need him |
| 22:52.26 | Nash|327 | I'm gonna start on 2.10 and remove more units later tonight |
| 22:52.29 | AsaPhelps | although he'd probably just link me to a tutorial |
| 22:54.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tinman (bjodeh@194.69.212.184) |
| 22:55.04 | Nash|327 | anyone tried a map with over 1000 units apart from mine? |
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| 22:55.32 | Xaragoth | nope, not with 1k placement |
| 22:55.46 | WAR | lol anyone know how to create a dialog button with without creating a dialog menu in the background? |
| 22:55.55 | Nash|327 | comforting |
| 22:56.06 | Xackery | you can hide the background right after making the modal dialog WAR. |
| 22:56.16 | Xackery | and that'll be the same end result as you want, most likely. |
| 22:56.26 | Nash|327 | then what I'm doing should help, probably |
| 22:56.32 | WAR | will the button stick? |
| 22:57.03 | Xackery | they'll be positioned relative to how you set them up inside the dialog, the user just won't see the dialog. |
| 22:57.19 | WAR | Well ya I just wanted to get rid of the border/menu |
| 22:57.19 | Xackery | and only buttons. |
| 22:57.22 | AsaPhelps | xack, just the man I need |
| 22:57.40 | Xaragoth | going to get a nap now |
| 22:57.43 | Xaragoth | see ya tomorrow |
| 22:57.48 | Xackery | Howdy. AsaPhelps. |
| 22:58.56 | AsaPhelps | i have a dilemma |
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| 22:59.16 | Xackery | What's up, AsaPhelps. |
| 22:59.20 | Otixa | Yeh, I'm off too |
| 22:59.33 | jorgenpt | Interesting |
| 22:59.36 | Otixa | Playing games for half a day is hard work ¬_¬ |
| 22:59.47 | jorgenpt | If you set an dialog item (image) to have a tooltip, then it doesn't let clicks pass through it |
| 22:59.51 | jorgenpt | But it doesn't /intercept/ them either |
| 22:59.55 | jorgenpt | So they just disappear :( |
| 23:00.08 | AsaPhelps | i'm trying to get my stone zealot to shoot lasers from his eyes, like battlecruiser lasers |
| 23:00.13 | AsaPhelps | but I can only get it to shoot from his head |
| 23:00.41 | Xackery | Beams are annoying. |
| 23:01.01 | AsaPhelps | well I want it to shoot missiles |
| 23:01.05 | AsaPhelps | the battlecruiser ones |
| 23:01.17 | Xackery | I'd surmise you need to figure out what's causing the beam to launch, and assure the attachment point is properly to the site operation of his eyes and not his head. |
| 23:01.48 | AsaPhelps | well i looked the attachment points and they should be correct |
| 23:01.48 | Xackery | this information is likely contained inside an actor |
| 23:01.57 | Xackery | Also use the previewer and test the attachment points. |
| 23:02.17 | Tinman | hehe the live stream still got 80+ viewers, bacause Sixen is probably sleeping :p |
| 23:02.56 | AsaPhelps | I tried xack :/ |
| 23:03.02 | pinzu | is there any, "How to data editor guides out there"? |
| 23:03.14 | pinzu | like the basic understanding |
| 23:03.44 | Xackery | I'd imagine if you peruse the countless OneTwo tutorials, and some of Prozaic's blurbs you can get a decent grasp of how things go down, pinzu. |
| 23:04.14 | pinzu | gonna search for those |
| 23:05.02 | Sixen | w00t |
| 23:05.07 | Sixen | It's 4pm, why am I sleeping? |
| 23:05.18 | pinzu | you came here to talk with me |
| 23:05.25 | pinzu | aww, how cute <3 |
| 23:05.25 | rooj | youre sleeping in bed with me |
| 23:06.19 | Xackery | Data editor is segregated into catalog types, such as Abilities, Achievements, Actors, Alerts, Units, etc. They're all linked by various fields that you can see in the object explorer (bottom left corner). Actors are typically linked by Events, which are generated trigger-like code that tie in to various events of a unit, and causes things to occur. |
| 23:06.23 | Xackery | There you go, data editor 101. |
| 23:06.24 | Xackery | XD |
| 23:06.40 | WAR | Actors are also attached to Models. |
| 23:06.41 | rooj | thats not data editor 101 |
| 23:06.46 | rooj | thats data editor 102 |
| 23:06.48 | pinzu | ahh my head |
| 23:07.04 | WAR | Most of the fields you wanna edit they have a tooltip for. |
| 23:07.04 | rooj | data editor 101 is: DATA EDITOR SUCKS AND IS A RISING CAUSE OF SUICIDE |
| 23:07.06 | pinzu | remeber, im the guy that took 2 weeks to understand functions action deffinitions and your code! ;D |
| 23:07.08 | Xackery | They're not so much "attached" to models, instead linked by the Art - Model field, typically WAR. Or by event tie ins. |
| 23:08.54 | pinzu | .. |
| 23:09.01 | pinzu | AND IS A RISING CAUSE OF SUICI = AGREED ;d |
| 23:09.08 | Xackery | Well, just think of it like this. A unit is just a definition catagory type. It has no existance in the game until it's tied to an actor. Actors deal with various visual aspects of things. Abilities are just a collaboration of effects to cause things to happen, giving units a feature they're able to call upon. To make an ability have a visual effect, it needs to be linked to an actor, too, via events. |
| 23:09.31 | pinzu | my actors are white spheeres ... ;/ |
| 23:09.40 | Nash|327 | WHITE GLOBE OF DEATH |
| 23:10.05 | Xackery | XD |
| 23:10.11 | Xackery | I dunno, I thought I wrote that pretty plainly. |
| 23:10.11 | pinzu | I mean when you try to do the most basic thing |
| 23:10.17 | pinzu | changing a model of a unit |
| 23:10.23 | pinzu | you get a cockslap on your cheek... ;( |
| 23:10.54 | Xackery | Unit is tied to it's model by actors. So you'd go to the unit, find out what actor is handling the Birth event of that unit, and then see what model that actor is calling on birth. |
| 23:11.21 | Xackery | There you go, different model. Of course, not all models are created equally, there may be animation discreptencies, attachments point that exist or not, so you have some potential complications with that sort of ordeal. |
| 23:11.23 | pinzu | so if its a dummy unit created in triggers |
| 23:11.29 | pinzu | it will still have a "birth model"? |
| 23:11.45 | pinzu | its a doodad unit sort of |
| 23:11.47 | Xackery | Normally it's best to just replicate an actor that already handles that model type, and use it as a foundation to build your new unit. |
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| 23:11.54 | antares- | there is an invisible model specifically for dummy units iirc |
| 23:11.59 | pinzu | I used the already existing actor for the doodad |
| 23:12.01 | pinzu | duplicated it |
| 23:12.06 | pinzu | changed type to unit |
| 23:12.36 | Xackery | If you have a dummy unit, and you create it in the game, it'll default to a sphere of doom if you don't tie it to an actor. If you want it to be invisible, give it an invisible model inside an actor. |
| 23:12.36 | Xackery | xD |
| 23:12.46 | rooj | did you change the actor unitName to the ID name of the unit? |
| 23:13.01 | pinzu | yes |
| 23:13.08 | pinzu | if I didnt it would not be a white blobl(?) |
| 23:13.17 | Xackery | rooj: The key to linking units to actors is in the events section, not the name of the actor. |
| 23:13.31 | pinzu | event section hmm |
| 23:13.38 | pinzu | you are intentionally screwing with me ayy? =) |
| 23:13.47 | Xackery | Nope, I'm trying to help you. |
| 23:13.54 | rooj | when you are viewing the actor, does Models show up in the list in the bottom left box? |
| 23:14.18 | rooj | the list of all the properties of the actor |
| 23:14.34 | Xackery | bottom left box is the object explorer, it shows more or less all links it thinks is tied to the object you're viewing. If you have set the Art - Model field to a model, rooj, it should display it on the bottom left corner while viewing the actor, yes. |
| 23:15.00 | Xackery | This is of course assuming the actor object type is one that has a model field. |
| 23:15.00 | Nash|327 | when you set models of stuff, you have to use actor and not text string |
| 23:15.03 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 23:15.05 | Xackery | There's different types of actors. |
| 23:16.28 | rooj | ive never touched actor events |
| 23:17.14 | Xackery | they're very good to know |
| 23:17.18 | antares- | well, rooj, a basic set of actor events are automatically created when you make a new actor depending on what type of actor you create |
| 23:18.00 | antares- | or if you duplicate a pre-existing actor, of course it's going to already have the events section filled in and, if you dupilcate properly, it'll pull the correct unit ID automatically and replace the events field |
| 23:18.06 | pinzu | hmm, should I make the "force bar" that determines the force of the swing above the unit or a dialog bar? |
| 23:18.07 | pinzu | http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg143/Chaago/?action=view¤t=mingolf1.png |
| 23:18.33 | Nash|327 | it should be large at least |
| 23:18.47 | Nash|327 | force of swing is rather important to know |
| 23:18.48 | pinzu | i was thinking a mulle calldown thing |
| 23:18.51 | pinzu | above the club or |
| 23:18.55 | antares- | but xackery is correct, tying actors to units has everything to do with the events field and essentially nothing to do with the name (though often it will automatically find the unit/object/model if they are named similiarly, saving you time... blizzard does this very often with their model naming scheme) |
| 23:19.00 | pinzu | a dialog bar to the left |
| 23:19.06 | Nash|327 | and it's info you need just as you are swinging so it's okay if it's big |
| 23:19.29 | Xackery | it's also possible to use 1 actor to tie in to many units, if they all use the same model. |
| 23:19.30 | pinzu | well basically its how hard you swing only ;l |
| 23:19.55 | pinzu | and a arrow for direction |
| 23:20.27 | Xackery | pinzu making you an example map, and screenshotting the process. |
| 23:20.28 | Xackery | :P |
| 23:20.36 | pinzu | FUCK YEAHH!!! |
| 23:20.41 | pinzu | now we are talking 101 ;) |
| 23:20.41 | Nash|327 | example of an example |
| 23:20.54 | Nash|327 | Example: This is an example. |
| 23:20.57 | Helral | pinzu: binary? |
| 23:21.00 | antares- | someone that is graphically inclined should make an image illustrating how various data editor types tie together |
| 23:22.13 | Nash|327 | "someone should..." = "I am too lazy" |
| 23:22.15 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 23:22.21 | Xackery | So, I published my raynor d map. |
| 23:22.32 | HeyRevolver | the abilities are badass |
| 23:22.32 | antares- | someone that is graphically inclined |
| 23:22.36 | antares- | ^ not me |
| 23:22.41 | HeyRevolver | everyone go play Xackery's map |
| 23:22.47 | HeyRevolver | with me |
| 23:22.48 | Xackery | haha revolver |
| 23:22.58 | Nash|327 | don't need leet filter skillz to make a graph |
| 23:23.58 | AsaPhelps | did pm or 12 make a good tutorial for launch queries? |
| 23:24.05 | HeyRevolver | if yall want to play a really awesome map with sweet abilities |
| 23:24.09 | HeyRevolver | add me now |
| 23:24.10 | antares- | i'd be happy to make a mockup if someone could make it look legible, my creation would be an mspaint doodle |
| 23:24.15 | HeyRevolver | HeyRevolver 901 |
| 23:24.39 | pinzu | *wakes self |
| 23:24.46 | pinzu | how do I do those cool action chat |
| 23:24.50 | Nash|327 | just use some sort of model tool |
| 23:24.55 | Nash|327 | UML tool or whatever |
| 23:25.23 | Nash|327 | relational modelling |
| 23:25.26 | Nash|327 | whatevs |
| 23:25.46 | AsaPhelps | i'll go hey |
| 23:25.56 | rooj | me too |
| 23:26.00 | pinzu | to to asshoe |
| 23:26.12 | rooj | rujind.573 |
| 23:26.13 | rooj | i think lol |
| 23:26.16 | HeyRevolver | ok |
| 23:26.20 | HeyRevolver | asa i got your pm |
| 23:26.23 | HeyRevolver | whats your code |
| 23:26.39 | rooj | yeah rujind 573 |
| 23:27.27 | tbye | how do I set full visibility for my map? |
| 23:27.40 | Nash|327 | no fog of war? |
| 23:27.56 | tbye | ya |
| 23:28.02 | tbye | full visibility on the map |
| 23:28.03 | Nash|327 | create revealer |
| 23:28.04 | HeyRevolver | any more? we got 4 so far |
| 23:28.06 | Nash|327 | for Entire Map |
| 23:29.18 | pinzu | hmm for that golfclub model |
| 23:29.27 | tbye | thanks |
| 23:29.32 | pinzu | is there a way to create its animation ingame |
| 23:29.46 | pinzu | or do I need to make my own somehow? *shrugs at the thought* |
| 23:29.49 | Nash|327 | move it around? |
| 23:30.17 | Nash|327 | it won't swing, but still |
| 23:32.23 | pinzu | I suppose |
| 23:32.36 | pinzu | do you like the idea of having the aiming be rightclicks inverted |
| 23:32.38 | rooj | PRESS ANY KEY TO CONTINUE |
| 23:32.56 | HeyRevolver | wheres the any key |
| 23:32.59 | HeyRevolver | ohhhh CL joke stolen |
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| 23:33.00 | AsaPhelps | i'm pressing all my keys |
| 23:33.06 | rooj | ME TOO |
| 23:33.09 | Jon_ | Hey |
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| 23:34.03 | pinzu | rooj its 4.30 am go to bed |
| 23:34.07 | Jon_ | Is there any way to have someone on the same team pick up a different players units in a carrier unit? |
| 23:34.12 | pinzu | or..? ;o |
| 23:34.40 | pinzu | could you please repeat that in other words for me |
| 23:35.14 | pinzu | by carrier you mean the protos unit carrier? |
| 23:35.42 | Jon_ | So, there are 2 players on a team. Is there a way that one player can use a transport unit like a medivac to transport the OTHER players units? |
| 23:36.18 | pinzu | if they share control |
| 23:36.36 | pinzu | I don't know enough about the data editor but Im sure it can be changed there ( some one correct me if im wrong) |
| 23:42.55 | rooj | pinzu you obviously cannot tell time since it is 6:42 PM! |
| 23:43.15 | HeyRevolver | any more for a new game of raynor defense? |
| 23:43.30 | Nash|327 | EU, US, Norway, what? |
| 23:43.34 | HeyRevolver | US |
| 23:43.40 | Nash|327 | bah humbug |
| 23:43.47 | HeyRevolver | UNITED STATES OF RETARDICA |
| 23:44.06 | antares- | Xackery, doh, I thought you were entering it in the contest? |
| 23:44.17 | Xackery | I was, but decided fuck it |
| 23:44.39 | AsaPhelps | xack did you see what I wrote |
| 23:44.45 | Xackery | not yet, fixing stuff. |
| 23:44.53 | HeyRevolver | he was telling you what to fix lol |
| 23:44.54 | ekcolnovkol|afk | I LOVE CRASHING |
| 23:44.57 | Xackery | yeah, damage redux |
| 23:45.00 | ekcolnovkol|afk | FRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUMMMMMMMMM |
| 23:45.02 | Xackery | and spiked armor |
| 23:45.07 | HeyRevolver | and the buttons |
| 23:45.24 | Xackery | yep yep thanks |
| 23:45.29 | AsaPhelps | i need a launch query or attachment expert |
| 23:45.34 | Xackery | oh and autocast |
| 23:45.40 | Xackery | of your reinforced carap |
| 23:46.01 | Xackery | spiked armor fixed. round 5 should be fixed. :3 |
| 23:46.08 | rooj | and just delete every hero |
| 23:46.08 | HeyRevolver | im alt tabbed lemme know when you go back in |
| 23:46.09 | rooj | except thor |
| 23:46.16 | Xackery | haha rooj |
| 23:46.21 | HeyRevolver | loool |
| 23:46.24 | rooj | xackery |
| 23:46.25 | HeyRevolver | give every hero rocket boots |
| 23:46.28 | rooj | lets make xenogears |
| 23:46.35 | Xackery | should check out kerrigan, got some unique pet systems for her |
| 23:46.48 | AsaPhelps | sounds like a hoe |
| 23:47.09 | Rayden | anyone figured out lobbies yet? |
| 23:47.25 | AsaPhelps | so if anyone knows about launch queries, I'm trying to make my stone zealot fire battlecruiser lasers from his eyes |
| 23:47.32 | AsaPhelps | but I can only get them to shoot from his head |
| 23:47.59 | ekcolnovkol|afk | oh yeah |
| 23:48.02 | rooj | changing the size of the model might help |
| 23:48.03 | ekcolnovkol|afk | why are the lobbies borked |
| 23:48.17 | Xackery | ok. |
| 23:48.21 | Nash|327 | MOTHAFUCKING LASERS FROM HIS EYES |
| 23:48.22 | Rayden | are you asking me ekco? |
| 23:48.25 | Rayden | or just in general? |
| 23:48.48 | AsaPhelps | because players enter 1 2 3 4 5 |
| 23:48.57 | AsaPhelps | and 6 |
| 23:49.04 | AsaPhelps | so lets say players 4 and 5 leave |
| 23:49.17 | AsaPhelps | so someone from team 1 which is 1 2 3 wants to go to team 2 |
| 23:49.31 | Rayden | well the problem is, i don't care what order they enter |
| 23:49.31 | AsaPhelps | so it'd be players 1 2 then 3 6 |
| 23:49.34 | Rayden | i want their loby position |
| 23:49.44 | Nash|327 | THE GAME CARES |
| 23:49.44 | AsaPhelps | but battle.net sucks |
| 23:49.48 | rooj | lol |
| 23:49.54 | AsaPhelps | v2 sorry |
| 23:50.09 | rooj | must think about SC2's feelings |
| 23:50.52 | Jon_ | Can you make 2 people play as one in a map? |
| 23:50.59 | Jon_ | like both people are player 1? |
| 23:51.05 | Rayden | you can make people share control |
| 23:51.05 | Rayden | no |
| 23:51.08 | Rayden | i dont think so |
| 23:51.43 | AsaPhelps | you can probably force share control |
| 23:51.52 | Rayden | you can set share control easily |
| 23:52.08 | Jon_ | You know how there are those things that show like score and stuff? |
| 23:52.15 | Rayden | leaderboard? |
| 23:52.19 | Jon_ | Yeah. |
| 23:52.24 | Rayden | yes |
| 23:52.32 | Jon_ | Can you make teams on that, rather then individual players? |
| 23:52.38 | Rayden | you can make it hwoever you want |
| 23:52.44 | rooj | yes |
| 23:52.57 | rooj | i dont know how to do it personally, my partner working on my map did it |
| 23:53.17 | rooj | i am pretty sure you are going to be using variables |
| 23:53.24 | Rayden | all leaderboards use variables |
| 23:53.38 | pinzu | a partner? |
| 23:53.41 | Rayden | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/5906-triggers-leaderboard-tutorial/ |
| 23:53.44 | pinzu | how you get one of those, exotic ;) |
| 23:53.48 | rooj | lol |
| 23:53.50 | rooj | the forums |
| 23:54.03 | rooj | he has done everything exactly as i wanted, too |
| 23:54.05 | rooj | <3 him |
| 23:54.32 | HeyRevolver | rooj wtf |
| 23:54.36 | HeyRevolver | youre cramping our style |
| 23:54.43 | rooj | D: |
| 23:54.47 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 23:54.55 | HeyRevolver | we are trying to start |
| 23:57.08 | Fromethius | what's a good name for a dark templar ability that creates a protossy cloud effect and makes the unit invulnerable for 2 seconds? |
| 23:57.13 | Fromethius | i am not very creative.. |
| 23:57.23 | Driscoll | man, i'm trying to watch the mlg live stream, but all i see is douchebags talking about old spice |
| 23:57.25 | Nash|327 | Shasow Shroud |
| 23:57.25 | Driscoll | what the fuck |
| 23:57.29 | Nash|327 | Shadow* |
| 23:57.46 | Fromethius | ehh |
| 23:58.31 | Rayden | ok |
| 23:58.37 | Rayden | what should i work on, since i can't get the lobby to work |
| 23:58.44 | Rayden | i suppose i could make it so my missiles can be shot down |
| 23:59.28 | Fromethius | you should work on figuring out why you can see command card items of enemies such as the level up icons and the submenu icons |
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