| 00:00.01 | SD|GhosT | anyone about the AI? |
| 00:00.05 | ZarafFaraz | I knew the creator of burbenog td, but I forgot his name and I don't know what his contact is now lol |
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| 00:00.14 | rulssi | :D |
| 00:00.17 | rulssi | did you ever finish the map? |
| 00:00.19 | rrowland | I don't remember the name but there was one where you got a hero on the bottom and you had a solo lane, it was really hard |
| 00:00.20 | rulssi | damn it was hard |
| 00:00.21 | rrowland | In WC3 |
| 00:00.38 | mattavich | hey look at this |
| 00:00.40 | mattavich | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:00.40 | Vulfe | Xackery: You should make a game like Enfos |
| 00:00.43 | Vulfe | or hero line wars |
| 00:00.45 | rrowland | And when you killed bosses it gave you lumber, which you could use to sabotage other people |
| 00:00.54 | rrowland | or buy lives |
| 00:01.00 | mattavich | any reason why this is setting Novas snipe damage from 100 to 1005? |
| 00:01.14 | SD|GhosT | ur adding a string "5" |
| 00:01.14 | Vulfe | because 100 isn't enough |
| 00:01.21 | Trager|546|US | line wars was tough |
| 00:01.23 | rrowland | because you're adding the string "5" to the string "100" |
| 00:01.28 | Xackery | Meh, I plan to submit my map to blizz contest, then publish it freely after I lose contest, and will likely never touch another defense-like map for a long time if my map never catches on |
| 00:01.30 | mattavich | Oh no i want maths |
| 00:01.37 | rrowland | you have to convert it to a real or int first |
| 00:01.39 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:01.39 | rrowland | then convert it back |
| 00:01.41 | mattavich | I want + 5 to the amount |
| 00:01.44 | Vulfe | What will you work on then, Xackery |
| 00:01.46 | Vulfe | coding for my RPG? :D |
| 00:01.48 | mattavich | :( |
| 00:01.58 | Xackery | I was mucking around on a FFT mod project |
| 00:02.02 | mattavich | I used "combine strongs |
| 00:02.05 | Xackery | not sure i'll ever finish that thoug |
| 00:02.06 | Vulfe | ahh |
| 00:02.06 | Xackery | h |
| 00:02.08 | Vulfe | That's cool |
| 00:02.08 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:02.11 | Xackery | it's way too complex |
| 00:02.15 | Vulfe | I made a turn-based strategy game for war3 |
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| 00:02.17 | Xackery | I'm literally plugging in all the stats of FFT |
| 00:02.25 | ekcolnovkol | anyone notice how the custom map listing blew up? |
| 00:02.32 | Xackery | down to how HP/PA/WP/etc are calculated |
| 00:02.43 | Vulfe | that's kind of silly |
| 00:02.45 | ekcolnovkol | like |
| 00:02.46 | Vulfe | in my opinion |
| 00:03.01 | ekcolnovkol | each map is being featured twice, and there are 9000 versions of two vs. the world |
| 00:03.06 | Xackery | http://a.imageshack.us/img825/5913/fft.png |
| 00:03.11 | mattavich | Guys i did that with "combine strongs" do i still use that? |
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| 00:04.17 | Atlos | yoyo |
| 00:04.28 | Xackery | Oh well. |
| 00:04.31 | Atlos | do you know what maximum/minimum clamp does in the editor? |
| 00:04.34 | Atlos | (data editor) |
| 00:04.43 | antares- | mattavich, not sure what you're doing exactly but combine string just sticks to strings together |
| 00:04.50 | Xackery | data editor uses max/min in a lot of different places, Atlos |
| 00:04.51 | antares- | "foo" + "bar" becomes "foobar" |
| 00:04.56 | Xackery | your question is pretty generic, maybe be more specific |
| 00:04.59 | antares- | "1" + "2" becomes "12" |
| 00:05.17 | mattavich | antares- I just want to add the value of the damage + an integer |
| 00:05.27 | Atlos | I'm under damage response |
| 00:05.28 | mattavich | i thought maybe "combine strongs" and then convert |
| 00:05.38 | Atlos | and there's these max/min clamp vallues |
| 00:05.58 | antares- | probably convert to integer first, then add, then convert back to string? |
| 00:06.01 | Xackery | check out hardened shield for an example Atlos |
| 00:06.39 | mattavich | Well the first ( will only allow convert integer to storng |
| 00:06.41 | mattavich | hmmmm |
| 00:06.47 | SD|GhosT | any idea why my AI works in Test Document but doesnt do squat when I try the published version? |
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| 00:07.34 | Vail | sorry i dont know anything about ai to much about triggers yet |
| 00:07.36 | Xackery | Maximum is the maximum damage taken to trigger the reaction. Maximum Clamp is a "cap" at which maximum damage is dealt. Minimum is the minimum damage taken to trigger the react. minimum Clamp is a "cap" at which minimum damage is dealt |
| 00:07.55 | Atlos | oh ok |
| 00:08.21 | Atlos | that's what I was assuming, but they have a modified amount field as well |
| 00:08.24 | Atlos | which threw me off |
| 00:08.57 | Xackery | tooltip on Modify Amount says "Amount of damage that is added or subtracted |
| 00:09.04 | Xackery | as in, a modifier to the amount being dealt |
| 00:10.06 | Xackery | Guardian Shield, for example, uses a Modify Amount of -2 to reduce incoming damage by 2 |
| 00:14.45 | Atlos | uggh |
| 00:14.52 | Atlos | I set it to like -999999 |
| 00:14.56 | Atlos | and my unit still does damage |
| 00:15.00 | Atlos | takes* |
| 00:15.48 | Xackery | Make sure you modify the "Kind" field to include the damage coming in |
| 00:16.04 | Xackery | enable e.g. all Kind of damage if you want it from all damage sources |
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| 00:16.24 | Atlos | only ranged is set to enabled which is how I want it |
| 00:16.28 | AsaPhelps | change modify fraction to 0 |
| 00:16.30 | Atlos | and yes I'm attacking with a ranged unit :P |
| 00:16.35 | Atlos | I'll try that |
| 00:16.45 | Xackery | err, modify fraction should be 1 |
| 00:17.00 | AsaPhelps | well i didn't read what he was trying to do |
| 00:17.02 | Xackery | if it's 0 it'll do 0% modification XD |
| 00:17.14 | mattavich | When setting catalog values |
| 00:17.22 | Atlos | hmm yea setting to 0 didn't work |
| 00:17.24 | mattavich | how do you GET a catalog value in integer form? |
| 00:17.29 | AsaPhelps | what are you trying to do |
| 00:17.37 | mattavich | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.37 | Vail | does the ranged unit do ranged damage? |
| 00:17.44 | Xackery | convert string to integer |
| 00:17.54 | mattavich | trying to set the value damage of an ability to the CURRENT damage + 5 |
| 00:17.59 | Atlos | Vail: is that to me or matt? |
| 00:18.03 | mattavich | i cant find converrt strong to igteger anywhere |
| 00:18.08 | Vail | you |
| 00:18.13 | Atlos | how can I check? |
| 00:18.16 | Atlos | it's a copy of a ghost |
| 00:18.17 | Atlos | it should |
| 00:18.25 | AsaPhelps | Atlos what are you trying to do |
| 00:18.32 | Atlos | I'm trying to make dark swarm from sc1 |
| 00:18.42 | Atlos | so units in the "swarm" don't take any ranged damage |
| 00:18.44 | Atlos | for the duration |
| 00:19.04 | Atlos | kind of like guardian shield except you can target the aoe |
| 00:19.09 | AsaPhelps | so should just copy guardian shield |
| 00:19.14 | Atlos | I've tried lol |
| 00:19.15 | mattavich | Each blue link i click doesn't give a function to convert the strong to integer |
| 00:19.35 | Xackery | mattavich: Catalog - Set value of Effects "NovaSnipe" "Amount" for player (Picked player) to <TAKE THIS NEXT ) TO THE RIGHT )>>>>((Value of Effects "NovaSnipe" "Amount" for player (Picked player)) + (String(5))) , and type in the search, "Integer", and it'll have "Convert String to Integer" |
| 00:19.44 | Xackery | then go to arithmetic |
| 00:19.48 | Xackery | inside that integer |
| 00:19.56 | Vail | Atlos: are you using the ghosts weapon or the snipe ability? |
| 00:20.03 | Atlos | the weapon |
| 00:20.06 | AsaPhelps | try another ranged unit |
| 00:20.06 | Vail | ok |
| 00:20.16 | mattavich | thanks xack ill try get it now |
| 00:20.23 | Xackery | Catalog - Set value of Effects "NovaSnipe" "Amount" for player (Picked player) to (String(Value of Effects "NovaSnipe" "Amount" for player (Picked player)) + 5) |
| 00:20.28 | Xackery | it'll look like that, ish |
| 00:20.29 | Xackery | when you're done |
| 00:20.54 | AsaPhelps | how does the swarm work |
| 00:20.58 | Xackery | Catalog - Set value of Effects "NovaSnipe" "Amount" for player (Picked player) to (String(Integer(Value of Effects "NovaSnipe" "Amount" for player (Picked player))) + 5) |
| 00:21.06 | Xackery | acatually it'll look more like that. haha. |
| 00:21.16 | Vail | are you sure the units you are targeting are getting the buff? |
| 00:21.19 | Atlos | I fixed it! |
| 00:21.24 | Vail | ah |
| 00:21.26 | AsaPhelps | we fixed it |
| 00:21.29 | Atlos | I set the maximum/maximum clamp to 0 |
| 00:21.36 | Vail | hm |
| 00:21.40 | Atlos | by accident |
| 00:21.43 | Atlos | so I set it to 999999 |
| 00:21.46 | Xackery | that works |
| 00:21.52 | Atlos | there's still one problem though |
| 00:22.08 | Atlos | I'm trying to get the guardian shield model to only appear at the aoe |
| 00:22.12 | Atlos | but it still comes from my caster |
| 00:22.17 | mattavich | Xack |
| 00:22.17 | Atlos | and is the size of the spell range |
| 00:22.21 | Atlos | I can't find where to change that |
| 00:22.26 | mattavich | you know straight after the first isntance of "picked player" |
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| 00:22.30 | mattavich | that first bracket |
| 00:22.32 | mattavich | what should that be? |
| 00:22.38 | mattavich | im using combine strings |
| 00:22.54 | Xackery | Nope. |
| 00:22.57 | Xackery | Change combine strings |
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| 00:23.01 | Xackery | to Convert integer to string |
| 00:23.11 | AsaPhelps | so if you have the mining laser attack a hero with the incapacitate thing, he becomes permanently incapacitated |
| 00:23.22 | Xackery | then inside the 0 that pops up from there, mattavich |
| 00:23.29 | Xackery | find "Arithmetic |
| 00:23.38 | mattavich | you're a star i think i get it now |
| 00:23.39 | Xackery | arithmetic (integer) |
| 00:23.40 | mattavich | thanks for the help |
| 00:23.47 | Xackery | then inside the first value of arithmetic |
| 00:23.57 | Xackery | find "Convert string to integer |
| 00:24.11 | Atlos | I'm gonna go to the gym but I'll be back later tonight to try to fix the model size/aoe. thanks for the help AsaPhelps/Xackery |
| 00:24.23 | Atlos | map is now 99.9% done once I fix the lag |
| 00:25.02 | AsaPhelps | just call lag a feature |
| 00:25.05 | AsaPhelps | like nexus wars |
| 00:25.07 | Atlos | lol |
| 00:25.14 | Atlos | I'm copying a map from sc1 over |
| 00:25.18 | Atlos | and I just copied the spawn amounts |
| 00:25.22 | Atlos | which worked fine in sc1 |
| 00:25.28 | Atlos | but causes massive lag in sc2 |
| 00:25.37 | Atlos | so I'll prob just scale the unit health up/amount down |
| 00:25.53 | Xackery | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.12 | AsaPhelps | what does catalog do anyway |
| 00:26.16 | mattavich | damn its one long ass action |
| 00:26.19 | Xackery | XD |
| 00:26.25 | Xackery | of course, if you keep calling that action mattavich |
| 00:26.28 | Xackery | it's going to keep stacking on itself |
| 00:26.33 | Xackery | and adding 5 each time |
| 00:26.36 | mattavich | That's the idea |
| 00:26.44 | mattavich | I dont have to use "set" multiple times |
| 00:26.48 | Xackery | Also note that if you have multiple units for the same player who use this effect |
| 00:26.50 | mattavich | jsut paste this action when needed |
| 00:26.54 | Xackery | it's going to be a player-global change |
| 00:27.06 | mattavich | That's fine im using picked player to cover all |
| 00:27.16 | Xackery | alrighty |
| 00:27.20 | mattavich | I'm using it to upgrade hero abilities for players |
| 00:27.26 | mattavich | every 150 kills |
| 00:27.40 | Xackery | AsaPhelps: You can live edit Effect data and a select few other Data types via triggers on runtime, they're called catalog sets |
| 00:28.05 | mattavich | You can make units fly with catalog :P |
| 00:28.07 | mattavich | you can doa nything |
| 00:28.14 | mattavich | its the best action there is |
| 00:28.20 | Xackery | a lot of limitation in it mattavich |
| 00:28.21 | Xackery | :/ |
| 00:28.56 | AsaPhelps | i'm sticking my my precious datas |
| 00:29.07 | Xackery | I use everything |
| 00:29.08 | Xackery | XD |
| 00:29.11 | mattavich | That's exactly what it does |
| 00:29.16 | mattavich | It edits the data editor |
| 00:29.19 | mattavich | through triggers |
| 00:29.22 | ZarafFaraz | hmm....I need some help with a trigger.... |
| 00:29.37 | ZarafFaraz | http://pastebin.com/a1GHVU8L |
| 00:29.45 | AsaPhelps | i'll edit my triggers through the data editor just to spite you |
| 00:29.47 | mattavich | sooooo you want the damage of the acid spines used by hydras to change in an instant |
| 00:29.50 | mattavich | catalog edits it |
| 00:30.10 | AsaPhelps | what changes it |
| 00:30.11 | mattavich | want a hero to become invulnerable |
| 00:30.16 | ZarafFaraz | what this trigger is suppose to do is basically have the creep move towards the nearest exit. |
| 00:30.19 | mattavich | catalog can do it without behaviours, abilities or anything of the sort |
| 00:30.30 | AsaPhelps | but you could just do it with a behavior |
| 00:30.38 | mattavich | but that's a long way to do it |
| 00:30.41 | ZarafFaraz | however, instead the entire mass tends to choose one exit and they all move through there....even if they are closer to another exit |
| 00:30.47 | mattavich | why not just create one action |
| 00:30.51 | mattavich | and do it isntantly |
| 00:30.54 | Vail | Xackery: can i ask for a bit of help? |
| 00:30.55 | mattavich | for all units |
| 00:30.57 | mattavich | for that player |
| 00:30.57 | Vulfe | Well. This is a depressing way to start my spanish literature class |
| 00:31.06 | Vulfe | a story about a guy whose son dies in a hunting accident |
| 00:31.11 | AsaPhelps | because cool kids use data editor |
| 00:31.12 | Vulfe | awesome |
| 00:31.15 | Xackery | Vail: don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 00:31.16 | mattavich | no need to create region specific conditions and add a ebhaviour then take it away |
| 00:31.27 | mattavich | no pick all player sin x |
| 00:31.42 | AsaPhelps | vail do you need help? |
| 00:31.49 | Cobellanez | http://z0r.de/224 |
| 00:32.15 | HeyRevolver | anyone have any idea why my items that are equipped to my hero are being killed by mobs? |
| 00:32.21 | Vail | yes, well i have a buff that is supposed to add five to a units shields ever 3/4s of a second but it isnt |
| 00:32.28 | Xackery | ZarafFaraz: you need to loop through everything first |
| 00:32.37 | Xackery | and then make a decision |
| 00:32.52 | mattavich | maybe you need to flag them invulnerable |
| 00:33.04 | HeyRevolver | it just randomly started happening though |
| 00:33.05 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 00:33.17 | Xackery | ZarafFaraz: Like, make a new variable and call it "ChosenPath". k? |
| 00:33.31 | mattavich | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.36 | mattavich | awesome that works perfectly now |
| 00:33.57 | mattavich | paste this wherever i want an novasnipe damage will grow by 5 |
| 00:34.00 | mattavich | ty xack |
| 00:34.13 | rulssi | http://pastebin.com/5jMsiPb6 argh why cant it be this simple |
| 00:34.15 | Xackery | Well |
| 00:34.42 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:34.44 | Vulfe | rulssi |
| 00:34.47 | Vulfe | what picked integer |
| 00:34.51 | Trager|546|US | wewt I'm on page 3 |
| 00:34.52 | rulssi | i know |
| 00:34.59 | rulssi | wish there was way to get it from the condition |
| 00:35.12 | Vulfe | .... |
| 00:35.16 | AsaPhelps | is there any good tower defense tutorials besides 12's? |
| 00:35.17 | Vulfe | Run a for loop |
| 00:35.30 | mattavich | Why are you saing less than or equal to 0? |
| 00:35.41 | Xackery | ZarafFaraz: One issue is during the for each integer int loop, you start at 1 instead of 0 |
| 00:35.51 | AsaPhelps | vail what do you mean, add by add 5 to a unit's shields? |
| 00:36.03 | rulssi | some of the creeps in the td take more than 1 life |
| 00:36.07 | AsaPhelps | like if it has 50/100 shields, make it to 55/100 in .75s? |
| 00:36.18 | Vail | yes |
| 00:36.23 | Vulfe | For each integer tmpInt from 1 to 4, do actions; if PlayerLifes[tmpInt] <= 0 then > end game in defeat for player tmpInt |
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| 00:36.27 | AsaPhelps | like constantly? |
| 00:36.37 | Vail | every .75 seconds |
| 00:36.39 | AsaPhelps | you could just do a periodic effect |
| 00:36.53 | Vail | i have a peridoic effect |
| 00:37.06 | AsaPhelps | what do you have for the effect |
| 00:37.08 | Vail | the effect isnt firing or is not effecting the right unit |
| 00:37.22 | Xackery | ZarafFaraz: You need to include in your if statement, your Index value to compare if it's best route |
| 00:37.23 | Nash|327 | people playing mah map |
| 00:37.41 | Xackery | Well, I guess Min Distance does that. |
| 00:37.42 | Xackery | Nevermind. |
| 00:37.50 | Xackery | However |
| 00:37.52 | Vail | its simple i have a modify unit effect set to +5 shields on the caster unit |
| 00:37.53 | Xackery | Your order is messed up |
| 00:37.58 | Xackery |   If                 Min Distance > Distance[int]               Then                 Variable - Set Min Distance = Distance[int]                 Variable - Set Index = int |
| 00:38.04 | Xackery | need to set Index = int |
| 00:38.10 | Xackery | before set min distance = distance[int] |
| 00:38.13 | AsaPhelps | and what is the effect doing? |
| 00:38.32 | Vail | the effect is supposed to add five shields every time its called |
| 00:38.36 | Vail | but its not |
| 00:38.42 | Xackery | ZarafFaraz: you catch those two things? |
| 00:39.22 | AsaPhelps | are you using modify unit and vital change? |
| 00:39.29 | Vail | yes |
| 00:40.24 | AsaPhelps | does the unit have shields |
| 00:40.29 | Vail | yes |
| 00:40.40 | AsaPhelps | can i look at the map or is it top secret |
| 00:41.09 | Vail | you will have to make a map your self i just have a mod |
| 00:41.27 | Xackery | (5:37:10 PM) Vail: the effect isnt firing or is not effecting the right unit |
| 00:41.33 | Xackery | I'd first isolate if the effect is firing or not |
| 00:41.40 | Xackery | by throwing a debug message in there |
| 00:41.43 | Vail | how? |
| 00:41.53 | Vulfe | triggars |
| 00:41.55 | Xackery | new -> action -> debug message, and say like "periodic" |
| 00:41.59 | Xackery | oh |
| 00:42.02 | Xackery | is this not trigger based? |
| 00:42.05 | Vail | nope |
| 00:42.14 | Xackery | Ok |
| 00:42.16 | Xackery | so it's a behavior |
| 00:42.27 | Vail | its an effect used by a behavior |
| 00:43.35 | Xackery | You're using Effect - Vitals - Change ? |
| 00:43.52 | Xackery | inside the modify unit effect |
| 00:44.04 | Vulfe | Also |
| 00:44.05 | Vulfe | Xackery |
| 00:44.06 | Vulfe | You're wrong |
| 00:44.07 | Vail | yes |
| 00:44.15 | Xackery | Be sure the ipmact unit is changed from Target to Caster |
| 00:44.20 | Vail | it si |
| 00:44.22 | Vail | is* |
| 00:44.23 | Xackery | k |
| 00:44.27 | rulssi | Vulfe: http://pastebin.com/GAJy7wLp am i going the right way? |
| 00:44.40 | Xackery | Vulfe: Wrong about what? |
| 00:45.09 | Vulfe | rulssi: Just set the integer as playercount |
| 00:45.13 | Vulfe | not the lifes |
| 00:45.24 | rulssi | ops |
| 00:45.28 | Vail | http://www.mediafire.com/?y62cf4if4s6hljc |
| 00:45.37 | Vulfe | Xackery: About the order in that part of his trigger (Zaraf or whatever) |
| 00:45.42 | Vulfe | the order of those two events doesn't matter |
| 00:45.43 | Vulfe | at all |
| 00:45.48 | Vail | there is the file its the over buff shield modify effect . |
| 00:46.19 | Xackery | He only has event |
| 00:46.21 | Vulfe | The execution of his trigger looks fine to me; I think that it just doesn't do what he wants it to do |
| 00:46.27 | Vulfe | actions |
| 00:46.28 | Vulfe | whatever |
| 00:46.32 | Xackery | I don't speak Vulfe. XD |
| 00:46.39 | Xackery | Anyways, let's see. |
| 00:46.57 | Vulfe | That Index variable is only used in the move order x.x |
| 00:46.58 | Vulfe | whatever |
| 00:47.02 | Xackery | Are you talking about the order of this                 Variable - Set Min Distance = Distance[int]                 Variable - Set Index = int? |
| 00:47.08 | Vulfe | yes |
| 00:47.34 | Xackery | Oh, yeah, you're right |
| 00:47.40 | Xackery | Oh well |
| 00:47.43 | Xackery | I just glanced anyways |
| 00:47.45 | Vulfe | His trigger is fine |
| 00:47.49 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:47.53 | Xackery | General - For each integer int from 1 to 3 with increment 1, do (Actions) |
| 00:47.59 | Vulfe | it probably just does something qualitatively wrong |
| 00:48.04 | Xackery | Yeah, I guess that works too |
| 00:48.10 | Xackery | since he sets distance to [0] by default |
| 00:48.14 | Xackery | I just don't like his code in general |
| 00:48.14 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 00:48.15 | Xackery | XD |
| 00:48.17 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:48.18 | Vulfe | well |
| 00:48.20 | Vulfe | it's not pretty |
| 00:48.21 | Vulfe | :P |
| 00:48.22 | Xackery | I'd have written it differntly |
| 00:48.34 | Xackery | he doesn't have to even make the array of distances |
| 00:48.40 | Xackery | oh well. XD |
| 00:48.49 | mattavich | How do you specify "every 150 kills". in the past i've used MOD math |
| 00:48.50 | Vulfe | Meh |
| 00:48.54 | Vulfe | I'd use pathing cost |
| 00:48.55 | Vail | teh over buff ability is called shield boost and is on the sentry |
| 00:48.56 | Vulfe | just to be cool |
| 00:49.35 | Cobellanez | Who is very Editor savvy and also knows Dawn of War? |
| 00:50.04 | Vulfe | mattavich: you have to track the kills or find a way to do with modulo counting experience or something |
| 00:50.19 | mattavich | vulfe i have a killc outner variable |
| 00:50.25 | Vail | Cobellanez: what are you looking for from dawn of war? |
| 00:50.28 | Vulfe | for every unit, or for every player? |
| 00:50.28 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:50.33 | mattavich | i already use mod but if i nuke something it doesnt work so well |
| 00:50.39 | Cobellanez | I basically want to make listening posts |
| 00:50.54 | Vulfe | what do they do |
| 00:50.58 | Vulfe | and what's hard about making them |
| 00:51.39 | Vail | listening post gaurd a stratigic point and produce requestition used in making new units |
| 00:51.49 | Vulfe | mattavich, what exactly are you changing every 150 kills? |
| 00:51.52 | Cobellanez | Its basically an extractor that gives minerals, and does it at a constant rate |
| 00:51.59 | Vail | they can be upgraded to produce more and have defenses |
| 00:52.12 | mattavich | It is part of an upgrade system |
| 00:52.18 | Cobellanez | Mainly the conflict I have is the whole, resources at a certain rate |
| 00:52.20 | mattavich | every 150 kills players get specific upgrades |
| 00:52.42 | mattavich | Rather than type conditions for <150 >=300 etc |
| 00:52.45 | Vail | buff... periodic effect ... modify player + minerals |
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| 00:52.53 | mattavich | i wondered if there is a cheap way of saying "every 150 kills" |
| 00:52.56 | Vulfe | are you providing those based on each kill? |
| 00:52.59 | Vulfe | as in |
| 00:53.03 | Cobellanez | Yeah, I tried that before when I wanted an auto refinery, but it didn't seem to work |
| 00:53.03 | Vulfe | trigger event is a unit is killed |
| 00:53.06 | Xackery | mattavich: any time a player kills a unit, they get a counter, and at 150, give a bonus? |
| 00:53.08 | Lilianna | mattavich, if Kills % 150 = 0 |
| 00:53.11 | Xackery | yeah, vulfe has it. |
| 00:53.13 | Lilianna | ==* |
| 00:53.16 | Vulfe | well |
| 00:53.21 | Vulfe | I would actually use periodic |
| 00:53.22 | Vail | did you change the target to caster |
| 00:53.22 | Vulfe | tbh |
| 00:53.23 | Vail | ? |
| 00:53.27 | Vulfe | probably more efficient |
| 00:53.27 | Vulfe | XD |
| 00:53.28 | Xackery | Why periodic? |
| 00:53.39 | Vulfe | problems with nuking large numbers of units at once |
| 00:53.41 | Vulfe | multi-register |
| 00:53.43 | Vulfe | on a huge scale |
| 00:53.44 | mattavich | i'm currently using MOD but it's rpetty bad and misses some calculations |
| 00:53.44 | rooj | woot |
| 00:53.50 | rooj | i got just promoted to gold 4v4 |
| 00:53.53 | rooj | and its called |
| 00:53.54 | Xackery | write a condition and clean out any issues |
| 00:53.54 | mattavich | kills % 150 = 0 will that work? hmmm |
| 00:53.57 | rooj | DIVISION GUARDIAN WHISKEY |
| 00:54.04 | Vulfe | Does anyone know how many frames SC2 runs at? |
| 00:54.04 | Xackery | shouldn't have any lag |
| 00:54.06 | Vulfe | The engine itself |
| 00:54.15 | Lilianna | kills % 150 == 0 is kills / 150, give me the remainder |
| 00:54.23 | Lilianna | so if its a multiple of 150, it should be 0 |
| 00:54.24 | Vulfe | he knows x.x |
| 00:54.32 | rrowland | kills %150 won't tell you "every 50 kills" |
| 00:54.33 | Vulfe | He's having trouble getting it to register probperly |
| 00:54.38 | rrowland | 150* |
| 00:54.41 | mattavich | The problem is if I use a nuke |
| 00:54.48 | mattavich | and it doesnt detect at 150 |
| 00:54.49 | Lilianna | ah I see |
| 00:54.51 | mattavich | then it misses it |
| 00:54.55 | Lilianna | well it should |
| 00:55.01 | Lilianna | because you ant add instantly? |
| 00:55.11 | rrowland | Your equation would be (X - (X%150)) / 150 |
| 00:55.15 | Lilianna | if 152 units die in one instant, it should count them up |
| 00:55.16 | rrowland | = how many 150s are in it |
| 00:55.18 | Vulfe | (I would probably attribute this to many units dying in a single frame, if the game runs on a specific number of frames, which it probably does) |
| 00:55.45 | rrowland | (500 - (500%150)) / 150 = 3 |
| 00:55.45 | mattavich | Well i currently have heros that gain 1damage every 10 kills using the mod math |
| 00:55.59 | Xackery | I don't do massive nukes of a bazillion mobs, but for personal use on my map, I never have any issues with deaths not counting, even if you kill 20 or 30 mobs at the same time. :/ (with Unit Dies event) |
| 00:56.01 | mattavich | but sometimes it will not work until they ahve liek 50 kills |
| 00:56.03 | Vulfe | idk how efficient having 150 instances of a trigger running at the same time is |
| 00:56.04 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:56.06 | mattavich | then it backdates |
| 00:56.23 | Lilianna | hmm |
| 00:56.37 | rrowland | What are you trying to do |
| 00:57.22 | Xackery | Vulfe: I have like, 5 or 6 Events whenever any unit gets hit |
| 00:57.22 | AsaPhelps | math is hard |
| 00:57.22 | rrowland | I'll tell you how to do it |
| 00:57.22 | Xackery | but they have conditions to clean the threads out fast |
| 00:57.22 | mattavich | Here is an example |
| 00:57.22 | Vulfe | Failed conditions are still wasted space |
| 00:57.22 | Vulfe | but it probably doesn't matter |
| 00:57.22 | Xackery | Look at blizzard's Tychus map, with the mothership |
| 00:57.22 | Vulfe | unless you're OCD like me |
| 00:57.22 | mattavich | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.22 | Xackery | they do the same method |
| 00:57.24 | mattavich | this is the math i use to count every 10 kills of a hero |
| 00:57.34 | mattavich | using unit dies event |
| 00:57.52 | rrowland | When do you call that |
| 00:57.54 | rrowland | ok |
| 00:57.57 | Xackery | tychus05 or something, they have a "any unit takes damage" on 3 or 4 seperate triggers, with conditions to clear them out if the situation isn't exact. |
| 00:57.57 | Xackery | XD |
| 00:57.58 | rrowland | That sounds right |
| 00:58.00 | rrowland | So what's the problem |
| 00:58.28 | mattavich | if the unit kills a lot of units quickly |
| 00:58.33 | rrowland | Okay |
| 00:58.34 | mattavich | it doesn't count imediately |
| 00:58.36 | rrowland | Here's what you do |
| 00:58.38 | Vulfe | Xackery: yeah, it's probably necessary |
| 00:58.42 | rrowland | Make an array of ints, one for each player |
| 00:58.47 | rrowland | Start it at 0 |
| 00:58.50 | mattavich | i have to wait until it reaches a multiple of 10 and then it recalculates |
| 00:58.55 | Vulfe | I guess my point is that you can't really keep triggers from eating memory unless you turn them off |
| 00:59.40 | rrowland | Every time the kill count updates, update it to count 1 per 10 kills the player has. Give them whatever bonus they get per 10 kills by subtracting the old x%10 in your array from the new x%10 |
| 00:59.45 | rrowland | Then update the old x%10 to the new one |
| 00:59.48 | rrowland | Rinse, repeat |
| 01:00.07 | Vulfe | also, multiple triggers with the same event is inefficient |
| 01:00.30 | mattavich | hmm |
| 01:00.31 | Xackery | it's efficient if each one handles a specific event |
| 01:00.33 | mattavich | yes vulfe |
| 01:00.34 | Lilianna | What do you think is better, one trigger triggering on all keypresses, or 4 triggers on speciic keys |
| 01:00.38 | Lilianna | I think the latter personally |
| 01:00.39 | SD|GhosT | is there a easy way in the trigger to say every x seconds, get the location of all Y Buildings for Player Z and do Actions? |
| 01:00.41 | Cobellanez | Ok, now I can't figure out how to get the buff on the structure |
| 01:00.44 | Xackery | over writing 1 huge trigger that stays in memory forever |
| 01:00.50 | rrowland | One trigger on all lilianna |
| 01:00.52 | Xackery | cuz it has to handle a ton of conditions |
| 01:00.55 | Lilianna | really? |
| 01:00.56 | mattavich | I know for a fact that the most efficient and best performance method is to have one single unit dies event |
| 01:01.03 | mattavich | with every action in it |
| 01:01.05 | mattavich | yep |
| 01:01.06 | rrowland | It says in the description that if you register any key it checks for all of them |
| 01:01.10 | Vulfe | Xackery: It doesn't really make a difference |
| 01:01.12 | Lilianna | ah okay |
| 01:01.12 | Vulfe | tbh |
| 01:01.19 | Lilianna | One trigger it is then |
| 01:01.38 | rrowland | But for some triggers that's true |
| 01:01.41 | mattavich | I know because i had performance problems with too many threads and slow slow generla performanc eon map |
| 01:01.51 | rrowland | Like you'd want to do triggers on a single region instead of "any region" and using conditions |
| 01:01.53 | mattavich | you would think one long ass triggers would be bad |
| 01:02.15 | Xackery | If you want a good reason Vulfe, if you have too many actions in one trigger, you get data editor lag. XD |
| 01:02.16 | Xackery | lol |
| 01:02.21 | Xackery | I hate that :/ |
| 01:02.22 | Vulfe | well, multithreading processing should theoretically speed that up |
| 01:02.26 | Lilianna | I still am trying to get away from the Key Press trigger, I will figure it out eventually |
| 01:02.30 | Vulfe | lol |
| 01:02.39 | Lilianna | but in the meantime I shall at least clean it up |
| 01:02.43 | Xackery | I have that problem all the time >< |
| 01:03.07 | Vulfe | Why can't the game register keypresses for triggers like it does for hotkeys |
| 01:03.14 | Vulfe | it seems like they should be handled in the same way |
| 01:03.31 | Lilianna | You would hope so |
| 01:03.38 | Lilianna | but Event handling works different I suppose |
| 01:03.41 | Vulfe | I wonder what prevents them from doing that |
| 01:03.41 | Lilianna | then Data Events |
| 01:03.54 | Vulfe | Why do they have to separate Data and Triggers so much too |
| 01:03.56 | rrowland | Well the ability key presses are handled client side, and then it sends the ability you used to the server |
| 01:04.00 | Vulfe | they should be more interdependent |
| 01:04.10 | Vulfe | basically, triggers should be like an extension of data |
| 01:04.12 | rrowland | With key presses, it sends every key press to the server and that's where it's checked |
| 01:04.13 | Xackery | It's just like why data editor related events are less intensive than trigger-based events |
| 01:04.13 | Vulfe | not a way of hotfixing things |
| 01:04.17 | rrowland | Because events are handled server side |
| 01:04.20 | rrowland | Not client side |
| 01:04.33 | Vulfe | that makes sense |
| 01:04.42 | Lilianna | all Trigger events are server side yes? |
| 01:04.46 | rrowland | Data editor events aren't laggy because data is handled client side |
| 01:04.47 | Vulfe | too bad the editor doesn't let you do ANYTHING clientside where triggers are concerned |
| 01:05.09 | Vulfe | as previously stated, if I desync my map, it should be my fault |
| 01:05.13 | Vulfe | none of this protective crap |
| 01:05.14 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 01:05.26 | rrowland | Then 95% of maps would desycnh |
| 01:05.31 | rrowland | desynch* |
| 01:05.34 | Vulfe | then maybe the 5% would be good |
| 01:05.42 | Vulfe | instead of what we have now |
| 01:05.44 | rrowland | Because believe it or not most people suck at making maps |
| 01:05.46 | rrowland | true story |
| 01:05.49 | Vulfe | yep |
| 01:05.56 | Trager|546|US | if I publish a new version of my map privately, is the latest public version still available? |
| 01:06.03 | Vulfe | well |
| 01:06.07 | Vulfe | just throw them in like |
| 01:06.10 | Vulfe | Advanced tab or something |
| 01:06.19 | Vulfe | It's not that hard to make it noob-friendly |
| 01:06.22 | Vulfe | just put a warning in there |
| 01:06.25 | Vulfe | >.> |
| 01:06.32 | Xackery | Vulfe: it's because Blizzard said so. And unfortunately, they make the shots on how things are handled in the editor. If you don't like it, go bitch at them or go play with another game's editor. XD |
| 01:06.47 | Vulfe | other game's editors aren't much better |
| 01:06.54 | Vulfe | but SC2 hardly even surpasses war3 right now |
| 01:06.55 | Xackery | Then you're stuck with what you got |
| 01:07.07 | Xackery | XD |
| 01:07.09 | Vulfe | GetLocal and HandleID would be great |
| 01:07.12 | Vulfe | along with more terrain levels |
| 01:07.13 | Vulfe | ffs |
| 01:07.32 | Trager|546|US | anyone have an answer for me? |
| 01:07.35 | Xackery | the fact we even get an editor makes me happy, There are times I fail to see logic in why X feature is not in and Y feature is, but it's also a fresh release, who knows what they'll add later. |
| 01:07.48 | Vulfe | the thing is |
| 01:07.55 | Vulfe | why didn't they add the later features of war3 editor |
| 01:08.02 | Vulfe | when they knew people needed them |
| 01:08.06 | Vulfe | which is why they added them in the first place |
| 01:08.09 | Vulfe | -_- |
| 01:08.18 | rrowland | they should have added air conditioning |
| 01:08.23 | Lilianna | okay, map update woo! |
| 01:08.26 | Xackery | because war3 editor and sc2 editor are not the same. I hope you have noticed that |
| 01:08.45 | Xackery | they may aesthetically have similarities, but under the paint is a whole different beast |
| 01:08.45 | Vulfe | yes |
| 01:08.53 | Vulfe | the purpose of them is the same |
| 01:08.55 | Vulfe | essentially |
| 01:08.57 | Vulfe | make custom maps |
| 01:09.07 | Xackery | No. |
| 01:09.19 | Vulfe | there's nothing in the game engine that prevents them from adding HandleID and GetLocal |
| 01:09.32 | Xackery | The "real" purpose of the editor was to make campaign and melee maps, and that's why all of those maps were made it in and released with the product. Custom maps is just a side bonus. |
| 01:09.49 | rrowland | your face was just a side bonus |
| 01:09.55 | Vulfe | lol |
| 01:09.55 | Xackery | :P |
| 01:10.05 | Vulfe | SC2 editor was designed MORE HEAVILY with custom maps in mind |
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| 01:10.11 | Vulfe | while the campaign/melee may be true for war3 |
| 01:10.16 | Vulfe | they saw the potential |
| 01:10.24 | Vulfe | (i would hope) |
| 01:10.39 | Vulfe | the question, then, is why they didn't add good features to the sc2 editor on release |
| 01:10.44 | Vulfe | when they were in war3 |
| 01:11.01 | Xackery | war3's design was giving a side bonus of custom maps, after seeing the success of sc1's editor. and sc2's design was giving a side bonus of custom maps, and they did build a lot of features that are better than wc3's, especially the actor related systems. |
| 01:11.06 | Xackery | and the data editor in general. |
| 01:11.07 | Xackery | XD |
| 01:11.10 | rrowland | Obviously though, they didn't just make the editor for internal use |
| 01:11.26 | rrowland | You can tell because it supports things they don't have in campaign and never will |
| 01:11.32 | rrowland | Like heroes, inventories and leaderboards |
| 01:11.57 | Xackery | yeah, and look how terrible and buggy those features are rrowland |
| 01:12.02 | HeyRevolver | yeah half of the stuff in the editor was put there for us |
| 01:12.07 | Xackery | they're a side bonus |
| 01:12.11 | Vulfe | no |
| 01:12.13 | Vulfe | they're not |
| 01:12.19 | Vulfe | otherwise they would be labeled "Side bonus" |
| 01:12.19 | Nash|327 | heroes aren't buggy D: |
| 01:12.22 | Vulfe | not "working features" |
| 01:12.29 | rrowland | They're buggy cause they haven't been thoroughly tested |
| 01:12.40 | rrowland | Heroes aren't really buggy, the inventory system kind of is |
| 01:12.47 | rrowland | Leaderboard is ugly |
| 01:12.50 | rrowland | But not really buggy |
| 01:13.17 | Vulfe | Blizz also doesn't use like half the fields in data |
| 01:13.29 | Xackery | Has anyone seen a hero with learnable skills that, when selected by an ally, doesn't show the hero's learn button? |
| 01:13.36 | Nash|327 | Heart of the Swarm will have Kerrigan Hero :G |
| 01:13.40 | Lilianna | Wee, updated, now to dig more into abilities. :x |
| 01:13.46 | Vulfe | Xackery: Engine/lack of client support problem |
| 01:14.28 | Vulfe | Xackery, that also might be possible using requirements |
| 01:14.31 | Vulfe | I'd have to try it though |
| 01:14.32 | Vulfe | to know |
| 01:14.48 | Xackery | I've tested requirements |
| 01:14.50 | Xackery | it doesn't work, Vulfe. |
| 01:14.54 | Vulfe | dayum |
| 01:14.56 | Vulfe | oh well |
| 01:15.01 | Xackery | requirements are based on the owner |
| 01:15.08 | Vulfe | figures |
| 01:15.17 | Vulfe | that's kind of what I'd hope for |
| 01:15.19 | Vulfe | lol |
| 01:15.22 | Vulfe | but anyway |
| 01:15.28 | Vulfe | it seems like they should put a flag for that |
| 01:15.36 | Vulfe | since it's awkwardly specific and clint-related |
| 01:15.40 | Vulfe | client* |
| 01:16.27 | rooj | hmm |
| 01:17.07 | rooj | ah, i see, i see |
| 01:17.13 | rooj | i seeeeeeeeee |
| 01:17.28 | rrowland | So is anyone here secretly a voice actor? |
| 01:17.32 | Xackery | regardless, that's called a hero bug. XD |
| 01:17.53 | Lilianna | I have a boring monotone voice, emotionless and pure. |
| 01:17.54 | Xackery | I haven't seen any game with learnable skills that has resolved the problem, either |
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| 01:17.59 | Lilianna | like a stewardess on a red eye |
| 01:18.10 | rrowland | My map needs to be epic and no map is epic without good voice acting |
| 01:18.21 | Xackery | get a girl moaning and it'll be epic |
| 01:18.31 | rrowland | Sounds kinda like the new kerrigan actress' voice |
| 01:18.34 | rrowland | You're hired |
| 01:18.40 | Xackery | hahaha |
| 01:18.43 | Lilianna | hehe |
| 01:19.02 | mattavich | A girl moaning? I'll record my gf when i ahvent washed the dishes |
| 01:19.09 | rrowland | lol |
| 01:19.16 | AsaPhelps | snap |
| 01:19.26 | Xackery | http://www.xfire.com/video/348348/ on the new DoTA SC2 map, see what happens when you select allies? |
| 01:19.26 | Xackery | :3 |
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| 01:19.29 | rrowland | I knew exactly what you were going to say until I got to "washed" |
| 01:19.31 | rrowland | then I was like |
| 01:19.32 | rrowland | wait what |
| 01:19.44 | Lilianna | theres already a girll moaning, or well screaming in SC2, just killa medic? |
| 01:19.51 | Lilianna | sure its kinda gurgly |
| 01:19.58 | Xackery | haha |
| 01:19.59 | Lilianna | but whatever, she was drinking water, or something |
| 01:20.06 | rrowland | lol I'm not going to put anything non-PG into my map |
| 01:20.09 | Xackery | she was getting "drenched" |
| 01:20.11 | mattavich | anyone else found this eyt? |
| 01:20.12 | mattavich | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.18 | rooj | didnt someone in here flip out when someone called it SC2 DOTA |
| 01:20.20 | rrowland | Not going to get disqualified cause I wanted to make a penis joke |
| 01:20.26 | Xackery | well |
| 01:20.30 | Xackery | Whatever that is |
| 01:20.35 | Xackery | DoTA sucks anyways |
| 01:20.41 | rooj | even though its like copy/paste DOTA heh |
| 01:20.57 | mattavich | Guys you will like my map i think ^_^ |
| 01:21.00 | rrowland | Are you talking about sotis? |
| 01:21.01 | mattavich | it will be popular |
| 01:21.05 | rrowland | It's 100% a dota ripoff |
| 01:21.10 | Nash|327 | people are playing my map D: |
| 01:21.18 | Xackery | yeah, my real point was, they haven't fixed the learn ability issue |
| 01:21.21 | Lilianna | Im playing my maps |
| 01:21.24 | rooj | someone got mad when someone called it SC2 DOTA though |
| 01:21.25 | Lilianna | because Im special |
| 01:21.25 | Xackery | i don't think it's fixable until blizzard patches it |
| 01:21.28 | rooj | and i thought that was strange ;x |
| 01:21.45 | Vail | what learn ability issue? |
| 01:21.46 | rrowland | I've been playing my map for like 2 weeks, cause I don't release maps without thorough playtesting :P |
| 01:21.49 | rrowland | Plus |
| 01:21.51 | rrowland | My map is fuuuuun |
| 01:22.00 | Xackery | http://www.xfire.com/video/348348/ see on video? I select my ally's heros, and can see their "Learn Ability" button |
| 01:22.24 | Xackery | I have same problem on my map. I've never seen an RPG fix it. |
| 01:22.58 | Lilianna | Sotis extends DotA |
| 01:23.02 | Lilianna | yay lets be like Java |
| 01:23.14 | Vail | speaking of things that arent fixed my buff still doesent work |
| 01:23.19 | rrowland | I don't think that's really an easter egg matt |
| 01:23.26 | rrowland | It plays on the jukebox in the hyperion I believe |
| 01:23.39 | rrowland | It's l80etc I believe |
| 01:23.50 | AsaPhelps | just blame blizzard xack |
| 01:24.46 | Xackery | Yeah, the reason I brought that bug up |
| 01:24.58 | Xackery | was to point out that Blizzard's "hero support" is half assed, and not their primary focus for release |
| 01:25.31 | Vail | hopefully in the 1.1 patch it will be fixed |
| 01:25.37 | Xackery | Just like how key-driven events cause a lot of lag |
| 01:25.42 | rrowland | One bug that affects nothing doesn't exactly mean it's half assed |
| 01:25.51 | rrowland | That's more like 99%-assed |
| 01:25.52 | Xackery | any game that uses key-movement, if played online, tend to have latency blah |
| 01:26.02 | rooj | SWEET HOME ALABAMA |
| 01:26.08 | Xackery | I can name more bugs, rrowland |
| 01:26.12 | Xackery | if you want me to make a list |
| 01:26.17 | rrowland | Go ahead |
| 01:26.19 | rrowland | I won't read it |
| 01:26.24 | rrowland | But if it'll make you feel better |
| 01:26.29 | Nash|327 | raeg |
| 01:26.31 | Xackery | then don't argue if you aren't going to hear the response XD |
| 01:26.45 | rrowland | Okay, start listing |
| 01:26.52 | rrowland | I'm listening carefully |
| 01:26.57 | Xackery | Haha. |
| 01:27.04 | Xackery | Actually, fuck this |
| 01:27.10 | Xackery | It doesn't really matter if I speak about my concerns |
| 01:27.18 | Xackery | I should just submit some suggestions to blizzard |
| 01:27.19 | Xackery | :P |
| 01:27.52 | Nash|327 | angry hate mail* |
| 01:27.54 | Xackery | of course, their forums always tell me this: An error was encountered while processing your request [The forum you're trying to access is not ready] |
| 01:28.07 | rrowland | But it's so much more fun to just complain to everyone else about why blizzard is horrible because their product wasn't absolutely 100% perfect on release like every other game that comes out these days. |
| 01:28.36 | Cryosis_Work | back |
| 01:28.45 | Xackery | Well, I don't really mind that heroes weren't ready. But there was a statement earlier that heros are fine and were the primary focus of the release of SC2. |
| 01:28.57 | Xackery | and I'm arguing that heros are buggy and weren't their primary focus. |
| 01:28.58 | Xackery | XD |
| 01:28.59 | AsaPhelps | what heroes are those |
| 01:29.09 | rrowland | Who said heroes were the primary focus of SC2? That would be a ridiculous statement |
| 01:29.29 | HeyRevolver | My heroes just bugged out like crazy and now items are killed bymobs |
| 01:29.33 | HeyRevolver | so fuck blizzard |
| 01:29.34 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 01:30.04 | Nash|327 | only bug I had was with Reaper jump |
| 01:30.40 | Nash|327 | well, there's the abilities showing the wrong icon and text while targeting but that is minor |
| 01:31.29 | rrowland | You're just making strawman arguments. Nobody said heroes were the primary focus of SC2. You said that the editor was created only for the creation of campaign maps, as opposed to the creation of custom maps, and somebody disagreed with you, as did I. |
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| 01:31.50 | Unrea1 | GAWD DAMN |
| 01:31.58 | Vail | what? |
| 01:32.13 | Unrea1 | Decided to take a break and beat Mafia 2 |
| 01:32.19 | Unrea1 | Shits intense |
| 01:32.25 | Vail | ah |
| 01:32.51 | Cryosis | Xackery: did you figure out that missile thing? |
| 01:33.15 | rooj | in the data editor, what does blue and green text mean? |
| 01:33.23 | jorgenpt | What's the repository system on sc2mapster? |
| 01:33.40 | Cryosis | What is the square root of 57? |
| 01:33.44 | rooj | lol mafia |
| 01:33.53 | jorgenpt | Cryosis: 7.55 |
| 01:33.53 | rooj | how long until there are farmville and mafia wars maps |
| 01:33.58 | jorgenpt | Cryosis: (Approximately) |
| 01:34.17 | rooj | pokemon map |
| 01:34.46 | Nash|327 | POKEMON MADNESS |
| 01:37.07 | Unrea1 | Wtf is this |
| 01:37.18 | Unrea1 | Theres like 50 baneling arenas |
| 01:41.36 | rooj | seems there is an issue changing the color of text within a dialogue |
| 01:42.52 | Vail | stupid bugged editor |
| 01:43.09 | Vail | hopefully my issue will be fixed next patch .. |
| 01:43.50 | rooj | lol i broke my actors again |
| 01:43.59 | rooj | oh well they get paid too much anyway |
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| 01:48.41 | Unrea1 | Dood I dont know half hte people in vent :| |
| 01:49.10 | ThunderLord | okay guys, who thinks they are good at Galaxcy editing? |
| 01:49.15 | ThunderLord | or atleast better than me |
| 01:49.33 | ThunderLord | cuz i cant figure out how i can preserve buffs through death and then revive |
| 01:49.46 | Klonkq | So, i have a create unit effect that has FieldSwann - Place Turret (Create Unit) 2 |
| 01:49.46 | Klonkq | Effect - Effect - SpawnSwann - Place Turret (Timed Life) 2 |
| 01:49.58 | Klonkq | ok that didnt come our right |
| 01:50.04 | Klonkq | but anyway, theres the effect spawn |
| 01:50.26 | Klonkq | you can only add one effect to run on the spawned unit, and i need several |
| 01:50.42 | Klonkq | basically to run 2 behaviours instead of just the one |
| 01:51.43 | Klonkq | how would i do that |
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| 01:52.20 | ThunderLord | wait so what exactly do you need klonkq |
| 01:52.35 | Lynch | Hullo everyone |
| 01:52.41 | Klonkq | the effect spawn can run one effect on the spawned unit |
| 01:52.43 | Klonkq | i need to run 2 |
| 01:53.20 | ThunderLord | coundent u just use the "Set" effect type in place of the 1 effect and add both effects you want to run to the set effect? |
| 01:53.51 | Nash|327 | SETS! :o |
| 01:54.13 | Klonkq | hmmmm yeah probably |
| 01:54.18 | Klonkq | didnt think of that |
| 01:54.27 | ThunderLord | try it let me know |
| 01:54.41 | ThunderLord | rrowland |
| 01:55.22 | Cryosis | Xackery: did you figure out anything with the missile issue I had? |
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| 01:56.57 | rrowland | sup |
| 01:57.03 | PapaRoach | sup |
| 01:57.12 | ThunderLord | there you are |
| 01:57.17 | rrowland | here i am |
| 01:57.21 | ThunderLord | hey dude whatever happined to reaper madness? |
| 01:57.22 | PapaRoach | there he is |
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| 01:57.29 | ThunderLord | that was ur map right? |
| 01:57.32 | rrowland | yeah |
| 01:57.35 | ThunderLord | well |
| 01:57.36 | rrowland | I stopped making it |
| 01:57.37 | ThunderLord | where is it? |
| 01:57.40 | ThunderLord | why? |
| 01:57.43 | ThunderLord | i saw that map |
| 01:57.48 | ThunderLord | and i pissed my pantse |
| 01:57.52 | rrowland | WASD lag is bad on bnet |
| 01:57.56 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 01:57.58 | ThunderLord | iknows |
| 01:58.02 | ThunderLord | i had same problem |
| 01:58.04 | ThunderLord | but still |
| 01:58.08 | rrowland | I wanted to make a deathmatch game out of it |
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| 01:58.15 | ThunderLord | you could atleast single player publish it |
| 01:58.16 | rrowland | But you just can't aim with such bad lag |
| 01:58.19 | ThunderLord | for the systems itself |
| 01:58.26 | ThunderLord | yeah i get what ur sayin |
| 01:58.38 | rrowland | Also it was like 4 or so months ago |
| 01:58.41 | ThunderLord | i kinda have been working on a less laggy aiming system |
| 01:58.44 | rrowland | So I wasnt as pro as I am now |
| 01:58.55 | rrowland | I had problems I couldn't get past |
| 01:58.56 | ThunderLord | rather than tracelines |
| 01:59.04 | rrowland | Cool, what do you use |
| 01:59.16 | ThunderLord | well, its basicly a modded version of tracelines |
| 01:59.33 | ThunderLord | you take the Tan of ur pitch |
| 01:59.36 | ThunderLord | inverse it |
| 01:59.47 | ThunderLord | x cam heigth to get your distance |
| 01:59.48 | ThunderLord | then |
| 01:59.54 | ThunderLord | for shooting up and down hills |
| 02:00.06 | ThunderLord | it check the heigth of terran of where you stand |
| 02:00.23 | ThunderLord | then the heigth of terrain of where your distance got you |
| 02:00.30 | ThunderLord | if they are differant |
| 02:00.40 | mattavich | any idea how i can stop un its shooting through my doodad walls? |
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| 02:00.54 | onetwo | yo |
| 02:01.00 | ThunderLord | it starts a loop that mods the distance, up and down, untell it gets precice measurement |
| 02:01.01 | rrowland | hallo |
| 02:01.04 | onetwo | new frostbolt tutorial out! |
| 02:01.06 | Cryosis | Anyone have any luck with the "set point height" trigger? |
| 02:01.08 | ThunderLord | so it dosent check every 1 |
| 02:01.10 | onetwo | with shitty presentation according to some people! |
| 02:01.11 | onetwo | but its out! |
| 02:01.47 | Nash|327 | I need teh sleepz |
| 02:01.56 | ThunderLord | that dosent really do anything for WASD movement |
| 02:01.57 | ThunderLord | but |
| 02:02.04 | ThunderLord | i think you should publish it rrowland |
| 02:02.06 | ThunderLord | or atleast |
| 02:02.09 | ThunderLord | send me a coppy lol |
| 02:02.19 | mattavich | onetwo, I tell you want people are crying out for |
| 02:02.27 | onetwo | ProzaicMuze i plugged you |
| 02:02.30 | onetwo | in my vid |
| 02:02.32 | mattavich | How to solve the "shooting form feet" mystery |
| 02:02.37 | rrowland | It's all in galaxy script tl |
| 02:02.44 | onetwo | i dont know :( |
| 02:02.50 | mattavich | most of us ahve tried siteops+ and launching positions |
| 02:02.52 | ThunderLord | what dose that mean? |
| 02:02.54 | mattavich | stills hooting from feet |
| 02:02.59 | rrowland | It's not made in triggers |
| 02:03.00 | onetwo | let me check if mine does |
| 02:03.02 | rrowland | It's all written in galaxy |
| 02:03.11 | ThunderLord | i know mine is |
| 02:03.16 | ThunderLord | so i am hoping |
| 02:03.19 | ThunderLord | it will be less laggy |
| 02:03.23 | ThunderLord | a lil less precice |
| 02:03.39 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 02:03.42 | ProzaicMuze | plugged me!? |
| 02:03.44 | ProzaicMuze | What am I? |
| 02:03.51 | ProzaicMuze | Some kind of outlet? |
| 02:03.52 | rrowland | a leaky hole |
| 02:03.56 | onetwo | yeah |
| 02:04.00 | ProzaicMuze | And what vid? |
| 02:04.04 | rrowland | a 2 cent whore |
| 02:04.04 | ProzaicMuze | No idea what you're talking about. |
| 02:04.06 | ThunderLord | i hope i guess /= you prolly know better than i do i have just been working on it like 2 days |
| 02:04.07 | rrowland | the town bicycle |
| 02:04.39 | ThunderLord | its confuzzeling me right now so its time for some nice and easy hero programming for my footmen frenzy |
| 02:04.47 | rrowland | lol |
| 02:04.51 | ThunderLord | wait |
| 02:04.55 | ProzaicMuze | I'm not the town bicycle :( |
| 02:05.05 | ProzaicMuze | I wouldn't sell myself that short |
| 02:05.06 | ThunderLord | thats why i came in here in the first place before i saw you in here |
| 02:05.07 | rrowland | yeah more like a moped |
| 02:05.15 | ProzaicMuze | I'd be the state's bicycle |
| 02:05.21 | rrowland | youre fun to ride as long as nobody finds out |
| 02:05.26 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 02:05.34 | onetwo | youtube.com/onetwosc |
| 02:05.37 | onetwo | i think in the 2nd part |
| 02:05.37 | ThunderLord | i cant keep working on my FF untell i can figure out how to preserve the buffs on a hero through death and revive |
| 02:05.39 | onetwo | of frostbolt |
| 02:05.45 | onetwo | hey proziac where do you set where a missile comes out |
| 02:05.50 | onetwo | in the missile unit's actor? |
| 02:06.00 | ProzaicMuze | Missile Attack Actor |
| 02:06.07 | ProzaicMuze | L.A.Q or SOps |
| 02:06.20 | rrowland | Hmm |
| 02:06.27 | onetwo | what if you dont have one |
| 02:06.27 | rrowland | Any easy way to add like |
| 02:06.32 | rrowland | The roof of a cave? |
| 02:06.53 | onetwo | Frostbolt MissileFrostbolt tutorial.SC2MapMissileGenericAttackMissileNot Doodad |
| 02:06.56 | onetwo | is that the one? |
| 02:07.21 | ProzaicMuze | puts the vid in the background and waits for his name to be spoken |
| 02:07.42 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:07.58 | ProzaicMuze | If you don't have a Missile Attack Actor, you're doing it wrong |
| 02:07.59 | ProzaicMuze | Clearly |
| 02:08.51 | jorgenpt | Who here moderates projects on sc2mapster? |
| 02:08.57 | ProzaicMuze | "let's remove a bunch of crap here . . . . *silence* . . . ok more crap here too. . . *silence*. . . . ok here we go" |
| 02:09.16 | onetwo | whats LAQ |
| 02:09.27 | ProzaicMuze | "If you ever dont see your oops here if you ever dont here see this things not looking ok have frost points" wtf!? |
| 02:09.34 | ProzaicMuze | Funniest sentence I've ever heard |
| 02:09.45 | AsaPhelps | lol at g4 called programmer progRammer |
| 02:09.49 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:09.51 | onetwo | everyone makes that mistake |
| 02:09.53 | ProzaicMuze | I don't think you meant to say that part out loud |
| 02:10.02 | ProzaicMuze | But LAQ is Launch Attachment Query |
| 02:10.06 | onetwo | oh |
| 02:11.03 | onetwo | i like to do all my tuts on the spot now |
| 02:11.08 | onetwo | cause otherwise i get too scripted |
| 02:11.12 | onetwo | and dont explain it well |
| 02:11.28 | onetwo | most of the questions on my youtube inbox are from tutorials i had notes for |
| 02:11.29 | onetwo | lol |
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| 02:12.30 | onetwo | hmm |
| 02:12.31 | AsaPhelps | i don't like how g4 calls all the maps mods |
| 02:12.42 | onetwo | prozaic |
| 02:12.49 | onetwo | i didnt make an attack actor for frostbolt |
| 02:12.51 | onetwo | just used a missile |
| 02:12.52 | onetwo | model |
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| 02:13.00 | onetwo | but do you think it needs one? |
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| 02:13.04 | atrika | hi all |
| 02:13.20 | ProzaicMuze | I recommend always using Missile Attack Actors |
| 02:13.32 | ProzaicMuze | Simply because the missile is much more likely to work properly and you have more control over the missile |
| 02:13.52 | ProzaicMuze | I'll only eschew the Attack Actor with various channeled beams |
| 02:14.10 | onetwo | ah k |
| 02:14.19 | onetwo | well i realized mine works but its going through the ground |
| 02:14.23 | onetwo | trying to see a quick fix |
| 02:14.51 | mattavich | ii always have this problems with weapons |
| 02:14.54 | mattavich | firing from ground |
| 02:14.58 | mattavich | checked siteops |
| 02:15.02 | ProzaicMuze | Aha |
| 02:15.03 | mattavich | check launch query |
| 02:15.04 | ProzaicMuze | there's my name |
| 02:15.04 | ProzaicMuze | go me |
| 02:15.10 | jorgenpt | Posted my first video on YouTube today! :o |
| 02:15.10 | jorgenpt | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPgsDTpn3So |
| 02:15.10 | mattavich | and it still happens |
| 02:15.18 | jorgenpt | It's my current WIP: Shared Vendor Library. |
| 02:15.33 | AsaPhelps | i followed riley's tutorial on how to make projectiles from scratch |
| 02:15.48 | jorgenpt | Also waiting for someone to approve my asset on sc2mapster (http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/shared-vendor/) |
| 02:15.52 | jorgenpt | Any feedback would be welcome. :) |
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| 02:15.53 | AsaPhelps | whoa whats this, a map more popular than nexus wars |
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| 02:16.25 | onetwo | proziac you know what it could be right off the bat by any chance? |
| 02:16.35 | Xaax | Hullo people of SC2Mapster. |
| 02:16.35 | onetwo | Frostbolt Missile.... Hosting - Host Site Operations +SOpAttachCenter:Disabled:Disabled |
| 02:16.38 | onetwo | i have that set |
| 02:16.41 | AsaPhelps | herro thar |
| 02:16.42 | onetwo | in the attackmissileactor |
| 02:16.48 | onetwo | it has the photon cannon mover |
| 02:16.57 | ZarafFaraz | hey onetwo |
| 02:17.01 | onetwo | hi |
| 02:17.09 | onetwo | i need to fix this fast since my tut is already out |
| 02:17.09 | onetwo | haha |
| 02:17.39 | jorgenpt | Is custom game bugging for anyone else? http://o7.no/987046/1i.png |
| 02:18.40 | Hjalte | I was unable to choose custom in the dropdown earlier, only had "All". |
| 02:18.45 | Xaax | Anyone know how to isolate a model variation via an actor or model? I'm trying to replicate a specific crate within a crate model that has a bunch of variations. |
| 02:18.51 | Hjalte | on EU though. |
| 02:18.54 | ProzaicMuze | Remove all the Site Operations |
| 02:19.01 | onetwo | k |
| 02:19.09 | ProzaicMuze | Your LAQ should be AMFilter Center : Center (Fallback) |
| 02:19.18 | onetwo | in which actor |
| 02:19.22 | ProzaicMuze | That "should" be enough to have your missile launch from the center of the unit |
| 02:19.27 | ProzaicMuze | The Missile Attack Actor |
| 02:19.40 | onetwo | is this actor |
| 02:19.49 | onetwo | different than the "GenericAttackMissile" actor |
| 02:19.51 | onetwo | for the missile unit |
| 02:19.53 | ProzaicMuze | Yes |
| 02:19.57 | onetwo | oh |
| 02:19.58 | onetwo | shit |
| 02:19.58 | ProzaicMuze | That's the Missile Actor |
| 02:20.01 | onetwo | damnit |
| 02:20.03 | onetwo | i knew it |
| 02:20.04 | onetwo | haha |
| 02:20.06 | ProzaicMuze | Action | GenericAttack |
| 02:20.09 | ProzaicMuze | That's the Missile Attack Actor |
| 02:20.19 | onetwo | oh |
| 02:20.24 | onetwo | im gonna have to make a part 3 quickly |
| 02:20.33 | onetwo | i got greedy |
| 02:20.43 | ProzaicMuze | "I'm actually surprised it worked for once" |
| 02:20.50 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 02:21.12 | ZarafFaraz | hey Prozaic |
| 02:21.18 | ZarafFaraz | how did your tutorials go last night? |
| 02:23.40 | ProzaicMuze | I put out 6 |
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| 02:23.42 | ProzaicMuze | got like 6 more to go |
| 02:23.48 | ZarafFaraz | lol nice |
| 02:23.48 | ProzaicMuze | But I'm workin' on job stuff atm |
| 02:23.54 | ZarafFaraz | ahh |
| 02:24.17 | Xaax | Anybody? |
| 02:24.26 | ZarafFaraz | hrm? |
| 02:24.51 | ZarafFaraz | what do you need, XaaX? |
| 02:25.04 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:25.05 | Xaax | Trying to use one model variation from a model that has a bunch of variations. |
| 02:25.08 | Vulfe | ONETWO IS HERE |
| 02:25.12 | Vulfe | I CAN MAKE FUN OF HIS TUTORIALS |
| 02:25.16 | onetwo | crap |
| 02:25.25 | Vulfe | Xaax: make a new model |
| 02:25.30 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah |
| 02:25.33 | ProzaicMuze | his tutorials suck |
| 02:25.35 | ProzaicMuze | All guess work |
| 02:25.38 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:25.39 | ZarafFaraz | lol |
| 02:25.48 | Vulfe | Terrain... ROW QUARITY |
| 02:26.00 | Vulfe | That's my chinese voice |
| 02:26.14 | Xaax | Uh...yeah...anyways... |
| 02:26.15 | Vulfe | If you noobs would get on ventrilo, you'd know that I'm not chinese though |
| 02:26.58 | ZarafFaraz | oh yeah I should get that |
| 02:27.59 | Xaax | Anyone else? |
| 02:28.04 | Vulfe | What |
| 02:28.07 | Vulfe | Make a new model |
| 02:28.10 | Vulfe | it's really easy -_- |
| 02:28.11 | Vulfe | not like |
| 02:28.15 | Vulfe | a new 3d model, just a new data model |
| 02:28.17 | Vulfe | without variations |
| 02:28.37 | Xaax | Lawl. |
| 02:29.00 | Xaax | Yeah, that would work except I need a way of actually getting one model out of a model with multiple variations. |
| 02:29.31 | Xaax | There's 5 different Haven Crates wrapped up in 1 Haven Crates model, right? So, I want 1 of those 5 variations. |
| 02:29.50 | Cobellanez | What triggers alerts for resource depletion? |
| 02:31.09 | Xaax | If I try to just use that model it creates a yellow dome for the actor model when I place it. |
| 02:31.10 | Cobellanez | anyone? |
| 02:31.48 | Cobellanez | :\ |
| 02:32.38 | AsaPhelps | health of the node maybe |
| 02:32.48 | Vulfe | hmm |
| 02:33.24 | atrika | cobe |
| 02:33.30 | Cobellanez | yes? |
| 02:33.35 | atrika | you could do something like |
| 02:33.38 | atrika | every x sec |
| 02:33.50 | atrika | if minerals are equal or lower than |
| 02:33.51 | atrika | etc... |
| 02:34.20 | onetwo | omg great youtube is doing site maintenance |
| 02:34.24 | Cobellanez | Well, lets say that after a set amount of time, like a buff running out, I want an alert to display |
| 02:34.24 | onetwo | right when i need to update with part 3 |
| 02:34.31 | RaydenUni | part 3 of what? |
| 02:34.42 | Cobellanez | Like, "OMG ITS ALMOST OUT" |
| 02:36.06 | atrika | hmm |
| 02:36.13 | atrika | i never tryed that |
| 02:36.14 | atrika | but |
| 02:36.22 | Trager|546|US | If I release a update privately, is the last public release still available for play? |
| 02:36.36 | jorgenpt | Where's the bot? |
| 02:36.38 | atrika | lets say your buff lasts 25 sec |
| 02:36.45 | atrika | u could do something like |
| 02:36.51 | atrika | a unit gets a buff |
| 02:36.54 | atrika | buff is x |
| 02:36.59 | atrika | (condition) |
| 02:37.03 | atrika | wait 20 sec |
| 02:37.07 | jorgenpt | Sixen: What's up with the bot that usually announces projects and stuff? |
| 02:37.17 | atrika | send msg to owner of unit w/ buff |
| 02:37.19 | Trager|546|US | it's been banned |
| 02:37.21 | Trager|546|US | it was spamming |
| 02:37.23 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 02:37.28 | Cobellanez | lol |
| 02:38.18 | Trager|546|US | ~seen repos |
| 02:38.42 | purl | Trager|546|US: i haven't seen 'repos' |
| 02:38.43 | Xackery | ~seen xackery |
| 02:38.44 | purl | xackery is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 175 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen xackery'. |
| 02:38.48 | onetwo | part 3 of my frostbolt tutorial |
| 02:38.53 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 02:39.47 | Cryosis | Anyone have any luck with the "set point height" trigger? |
| 02:40.00 | Cryosis | I can't get it to work |
| 02:40.25 | Vulfe | onetwo... |
| 02:40.29 | Vulfe | made another tutorial!? |
| 02:40.30 | Vulfe | NOOOO |
| 02:40.32 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:40.59 | Vulfe | I bet you made more bad terrain at the beginning of this one too |
| 02:41.00 | Vulfe | ! |
| 02:41.09 | Vulfe | 10 bucks says your casting unit is a zealot |
| 02:41.13 | Vulfe | because you can't use anything else |
| 02:41.58 | Vulfe | :O |
| 02:42.01 | Vulfe | A high templar |
| 02:42.01 | Vulfe | no way |
| 02:42.14 | onetwo | LOL i used zerglings though |
| 02:42.20 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:42.22 | Vulfe | ofc |
| 02:42.26 | Vulfe | is there any other hostile unit? |
| 02:42.27 | Vulfe | I mean |
| 02:42.29 | Vulfe | besides roaches |
| 02:42.31 | atrika | zerglings casting frostbolts |
| 02:42.32 | Vulfe | :P |
| 02:42.32 | atrika | lol |
| 02:42.48 | Vulfe | I actually played your stupid single player RPG thing |
| 02:42.55 | Vulfe | That probe didn't give me anything |
| 02:43.02 | Vulfe | not to mention that it's REALLY FUCKING HARD |
| 02:43.18 | RaydenUni | Diary of a Zergling, Day 327: Today I learned Frosbolt. Poor Henry. |
| 02:43.30 | atrika | hihihi |
| 02:43.48 | Vulfe | Also: Time Use is the right one |
| 02:43.51 | Vulfe | l2p |
| 02:44.03 | onetwo | thierry henry |
| 02:45.04 | Vulfe | At least 12 acknowledges that he's wasting my time in this tutorial |
| 02:45.09 | Vulfe | and apologizes |
| 02:45.17 | Vail | i hate this there is no reason for this to not be working |
| 02:45.26 | Vulfe | What's not working |
| 02:45.29 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:45.30 | RaydenUni | i bet there is actually |
| 02:45.31 | Vulfe | does it involve a screen button? |
| 02:45.34 | *** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@c-76-103-16-89.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:45.35 | Vulfe | XD |
| 02:45.38 | Vail | my attack actor |
| 02:47.17 | Sixen | oh right |
| 02:47.19 | Sixen | I never unbanned repo |
| 02:47.30 | Vulfe | L@L |
| 02:47.51 | Vulfe | Whoa |
| 02:47.55 | Vulfe | I actually learned something |
| 02:47.57 | Vulfe | from a 12 tutorial |
| 02:47.59 | Vulfe | Transient flag |
| 02:48.01 | Vulfe | mind = blown |
| 02:48.12 | Vail | what about the Transient flag? |
| 02:49.50 | Sixen | k |
| 02:49.52 | Sixen | repo can come back |
| 02:50.35 | onetwo | transient flag will make it so your unit doesnt stop |
| 02:50.40 | onetwo | when you for instance turn on a buff |
| 02:50.48 | onetwo | while hes moving |
| 02:51.14 | Vulfe | yeaah |
| 02:51.17 | Vulfe | cool stuff |
| 02:51.22 | Vulfe | what does Outer refer to by the way? |
| 02:51.26 | Vulfe | I never figured it out |
| 02:51.27 | rrowland | Tell me how to make it so I can issue move AND attack commands at the same time |
| 02:51.28 | rrowland | go |
| 02:51.41 | Vulfe | rrowland: shift click |
| 02:52.04 | Vulfe | command issuing is not the same time as recognition and execution O_O |
| 02:52.17 | rrowland | uh |
| 02:52.18 | rrowland | Well |
| 02:52.23 | rrowland | Whatever that means |
| 02:52.33 | onetwo | outside the area |
| 02:52.33 | onetwo | i assume |
| 02:52.35 | rrowland | I want to be able to run with WASD and shoot with spacebar at the same time |
| 02:53.39 | Vail | i just want this attack actor to work how its supposed to |
| 02:53.44 | Vulfe | turret actor then I guess |
| 02:53.49 | Vulfe | idk if that helps |
| 02:54.04 | rrowland | Do turrets let you specify targets while moving? |
| 02:54.10 | Vulfe | 12: why would you need to exclude units outside of the area? |
| 02:54.15 | atrika | rrowland |
| 02:54.15 | Vulfe | I doubt it |
| 02:54.18 | rrowland | I was under the impression they acquire their own targets |
| 02:54.27 | atrika | i think there is an engine on the forums |
| 02:54.34 | Vulfe | but you could attach units to each other and use transient abilities to target the turrets via triggers maybe |
| 02:54.40 | atrika | made for 3rd person shooters |
| 02:54.52 | atrika | in map dev |
| 02:55.31 | onetwo | i just looked at siege tank or w/e |
| 02:55.36 | onetwo | and it exludes outer and target |
| 02:55.58 | Vulfe | hmm |
| 02:56.14 | rrowland | you know what the thread is called atrika? |
| 02:56.15 | Vulfe | interesting |
| 02:56.31 | vxcriss | hey I did something and the editor now doesn't have the same quality as it used to have |
| 02:56.35 | Vulfe | Does that 3rd person shooter thing allow you to shoot and move at the same time? |
| 02:56.36 | rooj | there is a FPS engine on the main page |
| 02:56.40 | rooj | i havent looked at it though |
| 02:56.41 | vxcriss | dunno exactly what I did |
| 02:56.48 | AsaPhelps | try map preferences |
| 02:57.03 | AsaPhelps | file, preferences |
| 02:57.10 | Vulfe | I'm going to MLG Raleigh on Friday |
| 02:57.11 | Vulfe | should be fun |
| 02:57.18 | AsaPhelps | and changing the video |
| 02:57.21 | rrowland | I'm pretty sure they probably use move unit instantly |
| 02:57.35 | AsaPhelps | i don't know what mlg is |
| 02:57.35 | rrowland | Instead of move commands |
| 02:57.35 | vxcriss | ye I think what I did is switch to small files |
| 02:57.35 | atrika | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/7502-fps-engine-download-and-use-it-as-your-own/#posts |
| 02:57.35 | Vulfe | rrowland: of course |
| 02:57.35 | Vulfe | trigger move |
| 02:57.35 | vxcriss | for the publishing I did yesterday |
| 02:57.36 | atrika | this rrowland |
| 02:59.33 | rrowland | I'll check it out |
| 03:00.32 | Vulfe | Did you listen to what I said? :O |
| 03:00.51 | Vulfe | idk if it's possible |
| 03:01.56 | rrowland | Yeah atrika that's move unit instantly |
| 03:03.31 | Vulfe | WOW |
| 03:03.41 | Vulfe | 12 you didn't know how to color the units blueeeee |
| 03:03.43 | Vulfe | faillll |
| 03:03.59 | Vulfe | whatever |
| 03:04.05 | Vulfe | you still get cred for making tutorials |
| 03:04.05 | Vulfe | <3 |
| 03:04.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster Qumanhawk (615ebc86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.94.188.134) |
| 03:04.17 | atrika | cya all |
| 03:04.18 | rrowland | Any way to make a camera shake a lot slower than an earthquake? |
| 03:04.23 | Dogmai | good morning all |
| 03:04.30 | Cryosis | Anyone use the "set point height" trigger? |
| 03:04.37 | rrowland | I just want to make my camera move like it's a first-person view |
| 03:04.40 | Cryosis | I thought it would move the terrain up |
| 03:04.42 | Cryosis | but it does not |
| 03:04.47 | rrowland | Without coding a ton of random movements |
| 03:04.47 | Qumanhawk | hey when saving a map in the editor or testing a map, my editor stops responding for a good 2 minutes, then starts working again. does any one know whats causing this or how to solve it? |
| 03:05.03 | Dogmai | is it validating your triggers? |
| 03:05.19 | Dogmai | I have 1.4mb of compressed triggers |
| 03:05.20 | Qumanhawk | how do i check if its validating my triggers? |
| 03:05.24 | Vulfe | Cryosis: Only way to move terrain is by terrain-deforming actors |
| 03:05.28 | Dogmai | takes my comp a few seconds to validate them when i load the map |
| 03:05.37 | Dogmai | it has a window come up telling you |
| 03:05.39 | Qumanhawk | i dont have many triggers |
| 03:05.42 | Qumanhawk | no window |
| 03:05.42 | Dogmai | oh =\ |
| 03:05.46 | Qumanhawk | just not responding |
| 03:05.52 | Dogmai | not sure then |
| 03:05.54 | Qumanhawk | as if the program stopped working |
| 03:05.57 | Qumanhawk | then starts working later |
| 03:06.08 | Qumanhawk | very annoying, and makes it hard to test my map |
| 03:06.22 | rooj | what processor do you have |
| 03:06.25 | Cryosis | how does those work Vulfe ? |
| 03:06.29 | Qumanhawk | intel core 2 duo |
| 03:06.35 | Qumanhawk | 2.5ghz |
| 03:06.46 | Vulfe | It's just an actor that changes terrain height: there's a tutorial on sc2mapster |
| 03:06.50 | Vulfe | but they're pretty self-explanatory |
| 03:06.51 | rooj | dunno ;/ |
| 03:06.52 | Vulfe | ^^ |
| 03:07.02 | Qumanhawk | i have an apple macbook pro |
| 03:07.11 | Qumanhawk | and the problem happens on both mac osx |
| 03:07.16 | Qumanhawk | and windows 7 |
| 03:07.17 | ProzaicMuze | zomg it is so hawt |
| 03:07.23 | Qumanhawk | it used to not happen on osx |
| 03:07.28 | ProzaicMuze | Oh and OneTwo, when do you need your stuffs by? |
| 03:07.30 | Qumanhawk | but then it started doing it there too |
| 03:07.35 | onetwo | no rush |
| 03:07.38 | ProzaicMuze | I'm makin' myself a schedule of project stuff |
| 03:07.38 | ZarafFaraz | Actor events suck soooooo much |
| 03:07.38 | onetwo | i havent worked on maps in a while |
| 03:07.39 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:07.40 | ProzaicMuze | mmk |
| 03:07.46 | ProzaicMuze | Then I'll bump you to the back of the line for now |
| 03:07.51 | ProzaicMuze | Let me know if that changes :) |
| 03:08.04 | Qumanhawk | also, my game variants do not save correctly for my map. after i make it, it auto deletes the name and descriptions that i set |
| 03:08.12 | ProzaicMuze | A got a couple folks who want to release their maps, so I gotta make them the pretty shinies |
| 03:08.18 | rrowland | PM I need my stuff today |
| 03:08.19 | rrowland | Or else |
| 03:08.22 | ProzaicMuze | @.@ |
| 03:08.27 | ProzaicMuze | But you said tomorrow! |
| 03:08.31 | ProzaicMuze | Please dont' cut me! |
| 03:08.33 | ProzaicMuze | begs |
| 03:08.38 | ZarafFaraz | lol |
| 03:08.41 | rrowland | slaps prozaicmuze with a golf club |
| 03:08.50 | rrowland | I said today, got it |
| 03:08.58 | ProzaicMuze | Yes yes right away! |
| 03:09.06 | ProzaicMuze | sobs hysterically with what few teeth he has left |
| 03:09.10 | rrowland | smashes an expensive vase on his way out |
| 03:09.22 | Vulfe | OneTwo is too busy teaching hopeless noobs how to use GE to actually work on maps with the knowledge and prowess that he has acquired |
| 03:09.35 | Qumanhawk | so i think its my map itself.... |
| 03:09.37 | ZarafFaraz | what is GE? |
| 03:09.38 | onetwo | when i finally do though |
| 03:09.39 | onetwo | get ready |
| 03:09.40 | onetwo | .. |
| 03:09.41 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:09.48 | Vulfe | lol :P |
| 03:09.53 | AsaPhelps | okay sirs, I have a question |
| 03:09.56 | Vulfe | The WoW cam was cool |
| 03:10.00 | Vulfe | the rest is pretty easy stuff |
| 03:10.05 | Vulfe | WoW-cam was the best tutorial |
| 03:10.06 | Cobellanez | I can't find how to change the model of something |
| 03:10.09 | rrowland | So I really can't make the camera move and bob like it's a first-person view huh |
| 03:10.13 | ProzaicMuze | Psh, Vulfe, that's my job |
| 03:10.19 | ProzaicMuze | OneTwo makes videos that pretend to teach people |
| 03:10.27 | onetwo | shh |
| 03:10.35 | AsaPhelps | I want to create some type of "laser" that is two structures with a beam between them, so anything that walks into it gets hurt or whatever, but I want to know if its possible to make it so you could build one at a time, and when two are build close enough they "connect" |
| 03:10.40 | Vulfe | except that WoW-cam isn't very practical, because you have to hide the UI, which makes doing everything terrible and inefficient |
| 03:10.46 | onetwo | yep |
| 03:10.48 | onetwo | gg |
| 03:10.50 | Dogmai | haha |
| 03:10.52 | Vulfe | gg indeed |
| 03:10.58 | Cobellanez | Anyone? |
| 03:11.03 | ZarafFaraz | AsaPhelphs, I made something like that in WC3 |
| 03:11.10 | Vulfe | Cobellanez: What are you trying to do |
| 03:11.19 | Cobellanez | Change the model of something |
| 03:11.19 | Vulfe | Change a unit model? |
| 03:11.25 | rrowland | Yeah I saw something like that in WC3 |
| 03:11.43 | rrowland | A TD where towers needed electricity to work |
| 03:11.46 | rrowland | And you could chain them |
| 03:11.53 | Vulfe | cool stuff |
| 03:11.54 | AsaPhelps | zara, remember how? |
| 03:12.00 | Vulfe | that stuff is really buggy in sc2 though |
| 03:12.04 | AsaPhelps | maybe it'll be easier than I think |
| 03:12.08 | AsaPhelps | or a horrible, horrible waste of time |
| 03:12.09 | rrowland | You want to use a search |
| 03:12.09 | Vulfe | I remember PM was helping someone with that |
| 03:12.18 | ZarafFaraz | http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/cowardice-td-610/updates-june-29-2009-a-133801/ |
| 03:12.20 | Vulfe | Propagating searches don't work well though |
| 03:12.24 | rrowland | Use a search and create a beam going to all units it finds that match |
| 03:12.24 | Vulfe | because of backwards chaining |
| 03:12.31 | Cobellanez | :o? |
| 03:12.33 | rrowland | Use markers |
| 03:12.34 | AsaPhelps | you can change the model of something by changing its actor's model |
| 03:12.39 | AsaPhelps | or do you mean dynamically |
| 03:12.42 | Vulfe | markers? |
| 03:12.45 | onetwo | k part 3 will be processed in a sec |
| 03:12.45 | rrowland | Markers get rid of backward chaining |
| 03:12.53 | Vulfe | what are markers |
| 03:12.55 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 03:12.59 | Cobellanez | D: |
| 03:13.00 | Vulfe | onetwo: Why is there a part 3 |
| 03:13.03 | AsaPhelps | how would you make the beam do damage for stuff that crosses it, some type of penetrating beam? |
| 03:13.04 | Vulfe | The tutorial was overrrr |
| 03:13.07 | onetwo | to fix the ground missile part |
| 03:13.09 | Dogmai | wtf |
| 03:13.12 | onetwo | its shooting on the ground |
| 03:13.13 | onetwo | not in air |
| 03:13.13 | Dogmai | did something happen last night? |
| 03:13.16 | Vulfe | ahh |
| 03:13.16 | rrowland | They mark a unit, saying it's already been effected by a certain unit or spell |
| 03:13.18 | Vulfe | I didn't notice |
| 03:13.18 | onetwo | so its not really part 3 |
| 03:13.20 | onetwo | its a fix part 3 |
| 03:13.26 | AsaPhelps | part 3 of what |
| 03:13.27 | Dogmai | last night when i saved i had a few campaign units in my map |
| 03:13.28 | Cobellanez | So no one? |
| 03:13.29 | onetwo | frostbolt |
| 03:13.30 | onetwo | tutorial |
| 03:13.32 | Vulfe | onetorial |
| 03:13.36 | Dogmai | and today when i load up, there are none |
| 03:13.37 | Vulfe | I'm going to call them that |
| 03:13.41 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:13.43 | Vulfe | maybe onetworial |
| 03:13.44 | ZarafFaraz | AsaPhelps, did you see the link I posted above? |
| 03:13.45 | Vulfe | would be better... |
| 03:13.46 | onetwo | ah |
| 03:13.57 | Vulfe | or maybe a onetwoturial |
| 03:14.01 | Vulfe | onetwotorial* |
| 03:14.03 | Cobellanez | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.06 | Vulfe | That sounds nice |
| 03:14.18 | Vulfe | I'm going to go watch some OneTwotorials |
| 03:14.18 | Vulfe | brb |
| 03:14.24 | Cobellanez | ffffffuuuuu |
| 03:14.32 | rrowland | Hmm |
| 03:14.34 | ProzaicMuze | What was I helpin' people with? |
| 03:14.46 | Vulfe | behavior propagation by search |
| 03:14.58 | Vulfe | and how to get it from reverse chaining to stay active |
| 03:15.00 | ZarafFaraz | in my version, I didn't have them automatically connect when they are close enough. But rather, the main generator had an ability to "create" the smaller generator within the range that you see with the circle. Once created, it automatically created the link between the two |
| 03:15.04 | Cobellanez | I just got someones attention then ignored before I was told anything |
| 03:15.15 | rrowland | I'm so smart 8) |
| 03:15.24 | Vulfe | Lol |
| 03:15.29 | ProzaicMuze | Maybe its because you got those massive rims on yo faiz |
| 03:15.34 | Vulfe | Cobellanez: What are you trying to change the model of? |
| 03:15.38 | Vulfe | A unit? |
| 03:15.40 | Vulfe | A doodad? |
| 03:15.41 | Vulfe | What is it x.x |
| 03:15.42 | Cobellanez | A sctructure I made |
| 03:15.45 | Vulfe | so a unit then |
| 03:15.47 | Vulfe | right? |
| 03:15.48 | Cobellanez | sctructure* |
| 03:15.48 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 03:15.50 | rrowland | I'm gonna make my camera follow an invisible unit and just move the unit to move my view |
| 03:15.50 | Vulfe | rofl |
| 03:15.52 | Cobellanez | structure* NNG |
| 03:15.59 | Vulfe | mmk |
| 03:16.05 | Vulfe | Go to the structure's unit actor |
| 03:16.06 | Vulfe | and change the model |
| 03:16.10 | Vulfe | under the "Model" field |
| 03:16.11 | Vulfe | XD |
| 03:16.13 | rooj | do i need to change a units size in the unit info or the actor info? |
| 03:16.36 | Vulfe | Anyway, so rrowland, how are these markers used? |
| 03:16.40 | Cobellanez | There is no model field |
| 03:16.42 | Vulfe | I'm curious |
| 03:16.51 | Vulfe | brargaerughaweiufhaw |
| 03:16.51 | rrowland | You use the Markers+ field on the parent effect |
| 03:17.04 | rrowland | And on all of the children effects you use a No Markers validator |
| 03:17.13 | rrowland | That way they don't affect anything that have already been affected |
| 03:17.15 | Vulfe | Cobellanez are you looking at the unit actor? x.x |
| 03:17.37 | Cobellanez | Under the Units tab? |
| 03:17.42 | AsaPhelps | so for the beam to damage something, is that hard? I think there was a spell like that on the spell contest |
| 03:17.46 | Vulfe | No under the actors tab |
| 03:17.47 | Vulfe | lol |
| 03:18.11 | Cobellanez | Yeah, but the unit HAS no current model |
| 03:18.18 | Vulfe | Make one |
| 03:18.20 | Vulfe | as in |
| 03:18.23 | Vulfe | copy a unit actor |
| 03:18.24 | Vulfe | for a structure |
| 03:18.32 | Vulfe | and then change the unit under unitName at the top |
| 03:18.38 | Vulfe | and the models that it uses |
| 03:18.49 | Cobellanez | Ok, how the hell do I get there? |
| 03:19.00 | Vulfe | You're in the actors tab right? |
| 03:19.08 | Dogmai | does anyone know why campaign units are not showing in the editor but show in game when I launch it? |
| 03:19.08 | Cobellanez | yes |
| 03:19.33 | Vulfe | Dependency order? |
| 03:19.34 | Vulfe | idk |
| 03:19.39 | Vulfe | X.x |
| 03:19.53 | Vulfe | Anyway, so all you have to do is copy an existing structure's actor, Cobellanez |
| 03:19.56 | AsaPhelps | what are you trying to do cobell |
| 03:20.00 | Cryosis | wonders if using 2500 terrain deformation actors is a bad idea |
| 03:20.01 | Vulfe | and then change the unit that it applies to |
| 03:20.10 | AsaPhelps | you can make a new model, name it cobell |
| 03:20.16 | AsaPhelps | then go to the actor and give it that model |
| 03:20.17 | ZarafFaraz | Anyone available for a test on NA bnet? |
| 03:20.17 | rooj | cowbell |
| 03:20.21 | AsaPhelps | and attach the actor to the unit |
| 03:20.34 | Vulfe | Cryosis: Probably |
| 03:20.40 | Cryosis | sigh |
| 03:20.41 | Vulfe | Why would you need that many? |
| 03:20.46 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 03:20.48 | Cryosis | dynamic map creation :P |
| 03:20.55 | Vulfe | lol |
| 03:21.20 | AsaPhelps | massive earthquake map |
| 03:21.22 | Cryosis | players could votemap |
| 03:21.39 | Vulfe | Dynamic map creation doesn't work well in its current form unless you do it by using doodads |
| 03:21.40 | Cryosis | and then it would sequence through the actors and create them in a grid |
| 03:21.47 | Cryosis | why not? |
| 03:21.55 | Vulfe | because you can't make terrain levels |
| 03:21.58 | Vulfe | only raise/lower |
| 03:21.59 | Cryosis | besides the 2500 deformation actor thing |
| 03:22.06 | Cryosis | terrain levels? |
| 03:22.11 | Vulfe | like cliffs |
| 03:22.21 | Cryosis | oh, I don't need em |
| 03:22.23 | Vulfe | cliffs do not exist within dynamic map creation |
| 03:22.26 | Vulfe | whatever |
| 03:22.27 | Cryosis | it's not for typical gameplay |
| 03:22.28 | Vulfe | even so |
| 03:22.43 | Vulfe | What will you be randomly generating that's just a heightmap? |
| 03:22.43 | Vulfe | lol |
| 03:22.45 | Dogmai | vulfe |
| 03:22.49 | Vulfe | what |
| 03:22.51 | Dogmai | you hit the nail on the head |
| 03:22.52 | Dogmai | good job |
| 03:22.53 | Dogmai | :P |
| 03:22.56 | Vulfe | With what |
| 03:22.58 | Dogmai | dependancy order |
| 03:23.01 | Vulfe | Ah |
| 03:23.02 | Vulfe | np |
| 03:23.06 | Dogmai | ta mate |
| 03:23.14 | Cryosis | it wouldn't be random |
| 03:23.15 | Dogmai | dont know why it just decided to stuff up this morning |
| 03:23.17 | Lilianna | I once had an idea for dynamic map creation for WC32 |
| 03:23.19 | Lilianna | WC3* |
| 03:23.21 | Dogmai | its been fine for the last 4 weeks |
| 03:23.29 | Lilianna | but it would use a text string, referencing tiles |
| 03:23.38 | Cryosis | Lilianna: yep that's what I was gonna do |
| 03:23.39 | Lilianna | to place doodads or objectives in the selected tile |
| 03:23.45 | Vulfe | I did lots of things for wc3 |
| 03:23.48 | Vulfe | not much in sc2 yet |
| 03:23.52 | Vulfe | nothing cool as of yet |
| 03:23.54 | Lilianna | but nothing to do with Height deforma t all |
| 03:23.55 | Vulfe | O_o |
| 03:24.13 | Cryosis | I thought you were going to say height tiles, but |
| 03:24.22 | Vulfe | idk why you'd want to height deform though |
| 03:24.22 | Cryosis | you didn't.. so |
| 03:24.25 | Vulfe | except for effects |
| 03:24.28 | Cryosis | well |
| 03:24.29 | Lilianna | I didnt |
| 03:24.31 | Cryosis | it's 2 island |
| 03:24.35 | Lilianna | which is why I didnt think of it |
| 03:24.42 | Cryosis | I figured I could deform create the islands |
| 03:24.46 | Vulfe | ah |
| 03:24.48 | Vulfe | that's interesting |
| 03:25.03 | Cryosis | so players could have variation when they play |
| 03:25.10 | Vulfe | why would you need 2500 |
| 03:25.21 | Vulfe | Just generate islands with like 1-3 deformations each |
| 03:25.22 | Vulfe | lol |
| 03:25.24 | Cryosis | it would be done in panels (same size as 2x2 footprint) |
| 03:25.26 | HeyRevolver | Helms Deep.... *facepalm* |
| 03:25.26 | Cryosis | oh |
| 03:25.29 | Cryosis | wait |
| 03:25.37 | Vulfe | Terrain Deformations can cover a large area |
| 03:25.39 | Cryosis | I could use one giant footprint couldn't I? |
| 03:25.44 | Lilianna | I doubt you would need 2500 |
| 03:25.48 | Lilianna | you could reuse alot |
| 03:25.54 | Vulfe | To make a bunch of islands, you just need like |
| 03:25.59 | Vulfe | 100 max |
| 03:26.01 | Vulfe | which isn't a big deal |
| 03:26.05 | Vulfe | and that's like |
| 03:26.08 | Vulfe | a ton of islands x.x |
| 03:26.09 | Cryosis | The islands have to be very particular in shape |
| 03:26.19 | Vulfe | why |
| 03:26.22 | Cryosis | so each team has the same amount of placement zones |
| 03:26.31 | Vulfe | fairness my ass |
| 03:26.56 | Vulfe | You could always determine placement by something else |
| 03:26.58 | Vulfe | btw |
| 03:27.08 | Vulfe | like not just the deformations |
| 03:27.12 | Vulfe | some section within them |
| 03:27.12 | Lilianna | If you have a grid, you can say simply, this circle shape is island one |
| 03:27.15 | Vulfe | or something like that |
| 03:27.20 | Lilianna | then on the other side, make the same cirlce shape |
| 03:27.27 | Lilianna | and youd really only need one terrain deformer for that |
| 03:27.27 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 03:27.34 | Vulfe | well |
| 03:27.35 | Lilianna | you just have it run the same in each grid to railse |
| 03:27.36 | Vulfe | 1 for each island |
| 03:27.37 | Lilianna | raise* |
| 03:27.38 | Vulfe | :P |
| 03:27.43 | Lilianna | you could build islands |
| 03:27.46 | Lilianna | from one deformer |
| 03:27.51 | Vulfe | that gets bland though |
| 03:27.52 | Lilianna | of any shape |
| 03:27.58 | Lilianna | Its just an example |
| 03:28.01 | Vulfe | deformers are just like |
| 03:28.03 | Vulfe | squares and circles |
| 03:28.05 | Vulfe | lol |
| 03:28.09 | Vulfe | what i'd suggest |
| 03:28.09 | Cryosis | yep, it's going to look bland |
| 03:28.17 | Cryosis | that's fine |
| 03:28.17 | Lilianna | Im just saying |
| 03:28.17 | Vulfe | is making the islands circular or something |
| 03:28.24 | Lilianna | you can use that for making the base shape of an island |
| 03:28.29 | Vulfe | but then getting random points along the edge |
| 03:28.30 | Lilianna | then you can use others to define the island better |
| 03:28.32 | Vulfe | and deforming those too |
| 03:28.35 | Vulfe | for more interesting shapes |
| 03:28.42 | Vulfe | and as long as it was mirrored, it would still be fair |
| 03:28.44 | Cryosis | subdivision almost |
| 03:28.46 | Cryosis | yah |
| 03:28.53 | Vulfe | no need for true subdivision |
| 03:28.54 | Vulfe | I mean |
| 03:29.02 | Vulfe | You can always just have 2 player start locations that are fixed |
| 03:29.05 | Vulfe | and then generate the map around those |
| 03:29.09 | Vulfe | or however many players you want |
| 03:29.40 | Vulfe | just food for thought |
| 03:29.43 | Vail | yay finally got my attack actor working |
| 03:29.44 | Vulfe | anyhow |
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| 03:29.49 | Vail | now to rename everthing |
| 03:29.49 | Vulfe | congrats vail |
| 03:29.53 | Vulfe | you get a cookie |
| 03:30.00 | Lilianna | Im just saying You dont have to define say 15 different islands, if you build them up procedrually |
| 03:30.01 | Vail | i dont want your cookie |
| 03:30.06 | Cryosis | I could find a way to do so |
| 03:30.17 | Lilianna | break up the blocks small enough, you use less and get more possibilities |
| 03:30.19 | Cryosis | Thanks for the info Lilianna and Vulfe :P |
| 03:30.22 | Vail | i want confetti and ticker tape... |
| 03:30.30 | ZarafFaraz | Anyone available for a map test on NA bnet? |
| 03:30.38 | Cryosis | yah I think I could use a collection of large footprints to do so |
| 03:31.57 | ZarafFaraz | hey Cryosis, is your name on bnet Crosis? |
| 03:32.04 | Cryosis | nope |
| 03:32.05 | Cryosis | it's Cryosis |
| 03:32.10 | ZarafFaraz | ok |
| 03:32.18 | ZarafFaraz | you on NA or EU? |
| 03:32.39 | AsaPhelps | i can help you test |
| 03:32.54 | ZarafFaraz | ok, send me a message, Zaraf 527 |
| 03:33.13 | Cryosis | I'm on NA |
| 03:33.20 | ZarafFaraz | nice, what's your number? |
| 03:33.43 | Cryosis | gimme a minute |
| 03:34.21 | Cryosis | 541 |
| 03:34.42 | Cobellanez | Why can't I just duplicate a unit without duplicating everything related to it? |
| 03:34.46 | Vulfe | You can |
| 03:34.50 | Vulfe | Just don't check everything |
| 03:34.52 | Cobellanez | But still have it use the SAME values |
| 03:34.59 | Vulfe | You can |
| 03:35.00 | Vulfe | Just don't check everything |
| 03:35.22 | Vulfe | When you duplicate a unit, if you only check the unit and not everything else, it will only duplicate the unit |
| 03:35.27 | Vulfe | and share the same values |
| 03:35.28 | Vulfe | afaik |
| 03:35.36 | Atlos | can somebody help me fix my ability? it's almost done! |
| 03:35.41 | Vulfe | sure |
| 03:35.43 | Atlos | just trying to get the model right |
| 03:35.45 | Vulfe | what's wrong |
| 03:35.49 | Lilianna | If you want to duplicate a unit there is two things you need to duplicate |
| 03:35.53 | Lilianna | Unit and its Unit Actor |
| 03:35.56 | Vulfe | well |
| 03:35.57 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 03:35.59 | Atlos | I'm using the guardian shield model for the model |
| 03:36.08 | Atlos | and I'm trying to make it fit to the aoe of my spell |
| 03:36.09 | Lilianna | everything else will be used from the original |
| 03:36.12 | Atlos | but it just makes it at my caster |
| 03:36.15 | Atlos | and really big |
| 03:36.17 | Cobellanez | Apparently not |
| 03:36.26 | Cobellanez | I duplicate it and it keep just a few things |
| 03:36.31 | Cobellanez | keeps* |
| 03:36.32 | Vulfe | Atlos: Have you tried making a new model for the guardian shield and scaling it down there? |
| 03:36.39 | Lilianna | Ive never seen that Cobellanez |
| 03:36.41 | Atlos | I'm not sure what to edit tbh |
| 03:36.43 | Vulfe | Also, upi |
| 03:36.46 | Vulfe | upi |
| 03:36.48 | Vulfe | god dammit |
| 03:36.50 | Atlos | like how to make it appear at the aoe cursor instead of the caster |
| 03:36.55 | Vulfe | easy |
| 03:36.55 | Atlos | and to scale it to the right size |
| 03:37.00 | Vulfe | Well |
| 03:37.06 | Vulfe | Scaling it to the right size is by hand |
| 03:37.12 | Vulfe | but copy the guardian shield model |
| 03:37.14 | Vulfe | in the models |
| 03:37.15 | Atlos | oh, I thought it would auto do that |
| 03:37.18 | Atlos | yea I've done that |
| 03:37.19 | Vulfe | and then you can scale it down |
| 03:37.26 | Vulfe | in the actual model data |
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| 03:37.49 | Vulfe | and then, you'll want to create the model at the target of the spell |
| 03:37.53 | vxcriss | ok I can't figure this out, does anyone have any idea how to re-enable the high-quality video on the editor? it looks like it's in 256 colors ffs |
| 03:38.04 | Vulfe | which is done through the At Target thing in the actor event |
| 03:38.07 | Vulfe | it's like |
| 03:38.09 | Vulfe | one of those arrow things |
| 03:38.16 | Vulfe | I can never remember what they're called |
| 03:38.19 | Atlos | so I go to the actor of it? |
| 03:38.23 | Vulfe | Well |
| 03:38.23 | Atlos | and then the events+? |
| 03:38.25 | Vulfe | You need a new actor |
| 03:38.27 | vxcriss | I switched it to "small files" mode when I published my map and now all my maps are shitty |
| 03:38.32 | Vulfe | for the guardian shield effect |
| 03:38.39 | Vulfe | of type model probably |
| 03:38.55 | Vulfe | then in events+ |
| 03:39.10 | Vulfe | what kind of effect do you make there/ |
| 03:39.12 | Vulfe | ? |
| 03:39.16 | Atlos | I've got two copies, ModelAnimatinoOneShot and ModelAnimationContinuous |
| 03:39.22 | Vulfe | OneShot |
| 03:39.25 | rooj | is there a way to change a units movement type (collide, for example, from ground to flying) using triggers? |
| 03:39.25 | Atlos | ok |
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| 03:39.50 | Vulfe | What kind of effect does your spell have |
| 03:39.53 | Vulfe | search? |
| 03:40.10 | Atlos | well it creates a persistent and search area |
| 03:40.14 | Vulfe | ah |
| 03:40.15 | Atlos | and then applies the behavior |
| 03:40.15 | Vulfe | well |
| 03:40.18 | Vulfe | that's perfect then |
| 03:40.26 | Vulfe | Tie the actor for creating the guardian shield model |
| 03:40.31 | Vulfe | to the persistent creation at the target |
| 03:40.33 | Atlos | want me to take a screenshot of the Events+ menu? |
| 03:40.33 | Vulfe | does that make sense? |
| 03:40.45 | Atlos | uhh not really lol idk where to do that |
| 03:40.58 | Vulfe | lol |
| 03:41.01 | Vulfe | Well |
| 03:41.09 | Vulfe | You can ss the events+ if you lik |
| 03:41.12 | Vulfe | like |
| 03:41.15 | Vulfe | but I have to go to sleep soon |
| 03:41.17 | Vulfe | school tomorrow |
| 03:41.41 | Atlos | :O |
| 03:41.46 | Xaragoth | you know whats cool? |
| 03:41.55 | Xaragoth | C4 Teddybears! |
| 03:42.03 | Xaragoth | Hug it for a blow! |
| 03:42.07 | Vulfe | Atlos, you can actually just tie it to the search area or the persistent |
| 03:42.10 | Vulfe | So you have like |
| 03:42.23 | Vulfe | Effect.YourSpellPersistent.Impact |
| 03:42.24 | Vulfe | Create |
| 03:43.10 | Atlos | http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1474/events.png |
| 03:43.11 | Lilianna | well then, I just double checked, duplicated a units Unit and Unit Actor |
| 03:43.27 | Vulfe | Okay |
| 03:43.34 | Vulfe | So instead of Behavior > DarkSwarm > On |
| 03:43.52 | Lilianna | exact duplicate, lost a Death Actor, for some odd reason, but that wouldnt hamper anything |
| 03:43.55 | Vulfe | You're going to want Effect > Your Spell Persistent or Search (doesn't matter really) > Impact |
| 03:44.12 | Atlos | ok |
| 03:44.15 | Atlos | let me test that |
| 03:45.02 | Lilianna | ah, Upgrades dont carry over too, because they aren't handeled in the unit |
| 03:45.13 | Lilianna | have to add your new unit to the Upgrades Unit Array |
| 03:45.26 | Atlos | hmm it still created it at the caster |
| 03:45.30 | Atlos | and it followed me when I moved |
| 03:45.34 | Vulfe | wtf |
| 03:45.43 | Vulfe | Is the persistent created at caster? |
| 03:45.48 | Vulfe | Does the spell work as intended right now? |
| 03:45.58 | Vulfe | (graphics aside) |
| 03:46.04 | Atlos | yea last time I tested it worked |
| 03:46.12 | Atlos | let me double check |
| 03:46.18 | Vulfe | Is persistent created at caster or at the ability target |
| 03:46.27 | Vulfe | because if it's the caster then that would cause a problem |
| 03:46.59 | Atlos | Target Location: Target Point |
| 03:47.04 | Atlos | is what's listed for the persistent |
| 03:47.07 | Vulfe | hmm |
| 03:47.10 | Vail | now if i could just get my shield boot ability to work |
| 03:47.17 | Vulfe | well |
| 03:47.22 | Vulfe | I don't really have time to debug right now |
| 03:47.23 | Vulfe | Atlos |
| 03:47.25 | Vulfe | I have to go sleep |
| 03:47.27 | Vail | boost |
| 03:47.28 | Atlos | alrighty |
| 03:47.30 | Vulfe | I'll see you all tomorrow probably |
| 03:47.32 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 03:51.30 | rrowland | Anyone know much about the story mode actors? |
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| 03:54.27 | Vail | great now the stupid buff wont stay on |
| 03:54.44 | Vail | why is it when i fix one thing three others completely unrealted break |
| 03:54.59 | Atlos | they must be related in ways you don't know then :P |
| 03:55.34 | Vail | perhaps |
| 03:55.37 | Xaragoth | they are related by the laws of bugfixing |
| 03:55.47 | Xaragoth | for every bug you fix ten new appear |
| 03:55.53 | Xaragoth | seen or unseen! |
| 03:56.00 | Atlos | hmm so does anybody else know how to fix my problem? I was assuming it's a quick fix |
| 03:56.11 | Atlos | and I've been messing wtih different fields on my ability |
| 03:56.17 | Atlos | but I'm scared to tinker with it for much longer |
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| 03:56.24 | Vulfe | OAKY |
| 03:56.26 | Vulfe | I have OCD |
| 03:56.27 | Atlos | for the risk of breaking something |
| 03:56.29 | Vulfe | So I tested it |
| 03:56.43 | Vulfe | Effect > Search > Impact works |
| 03:57.01 | Vulfe | but to get it to only display for a certain amount of time, you'll probably want to use Duration under the Time Variant thing |
| 03:57.12 | Vulfe | I think Effect > Persistent > Start |
| 03:57.13 | Vulfe | works too |
| 03:57.15 | Vulfe | you're welcome |
| 03:57.29 | Vulfe | If you do a persistent, you can probably also do Effect > Persistent > Stop |
| 03:57.30 | Vulfe | to destroy it |
| 03:57.34 | Atlos | hmm |
| 03:57.39 | Atlos | lemme give it a shot |
| 03:57.43 | Vulfe | all right |
| 03:57.50 | Vulfe | i'm sleeping for real this time though |
| 03:57.54 | Vulfe | but I know the search impact will make it work on target |
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| 03:57.59 | Tordecybombo | sup |
| 03:58.00 | Vulfe | provided that your spell works properly |
| 03:58.01 | Vulfe | good night |
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| 03:59.06 | Vail | yay It works now too thats two things fixed tonight |
| 03:59.08 | Waterbottles | hi vxcriss |
| 03:59.13 | Waterbottles | hi Vail |
| 03:59.16 | Waterbottles | hi hyarion |
| 03:59.20 | Vail | Hello |
| 03:59.25 | Unrea1 | Herro |
| 03:59.30 | Waterbottles | hell |
| 03:59.32 | Waterbottles | o |
| 04:00.52 | Waterbottles | how do you put images in your map |
| 04:00.55 | Waterbottles | like imported |
| 04:01.03 | Waterbottles | can you import images? |
| 04:01.14 | Waterbottles | can it use png? |
| 04:02.58 | Atlos | wow, it's still not working lol |
| 04:03.02 | Atlos | how do I fail so much |
| 04:03.04 | Atlos | with the data editor |
| 04:03.07 | Waterbottles | i giv eup |
| 04:03.28 | Atlos | have you tried the import manager.......? |
| 04:04.39 | Atlos | YESSSSSSS |
| 04:04.40 | Atlos | I got it |
| 04:04.45 | Waterbottles | PLESE |
| 04:04.47 | Atlos | there was a field that was attaching it to the unit |
| 04:04.57 | Atlos | I just answered your question lol |
| 04:05.02 | Atlos | go to the import manager |
| 04:05.05 | Atlos | to import your image |
| 04:05.33 | Waterbottles | does it take any image |
| 04:05.44 | Waterbottles | what are the limitations for images |
| 04:06.05 | Atlos | I have no idea |
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| 04:06.24 | Atlos | just try your image to see if it likes it or not |
| 04:09.09 | ProzaicMuze | "How did you know she was lying?" "I'm a Psychic" |
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| 04:09.15 | ProzaicMuze | "Wait, how did YOU know she was lying?" |
| 04:09.17 | Darkarbiter | Hey |
| 04:09.18 | ProzaicMuze | "SHE'S A WOMAN!" |
| 04:09.26 | Darkarbiter | Hey guys |
| 04:09.30 | Darkarbiter | working on a werewolf type map |
| 04:11.57 | Atlos | hmm, now what would cause an ability that's on my unit's command card to not show up in game? |
| 04:12.11 | AsaPhelps | did you give the unit the ability |
| 04:12.17 | AsaPhelps | does the button have a requirement |
| 04:12.29 | Atlos | let me double check, pretty sure I did both |
| 04:15.44 | Atlos | ah ok there was a sneaky requirement that I missed |
| 04:15.45 | Atlos | thanks |
| 04:15.59 | Waterbottles | sneaky sneaky! |
| 04:19.19 | Darkarbiter | Is there a command |
| 04:19.22 | Darkarbiter | that stops players from talking? |
| 04:19.26 | Darkarbiter | and other players from hearing them |
| 04:19.50 | Waterbottles | i wish |
| 04:19.52 | Cryosis | does not like the footprint editor |
| 04:20.01 | Darkarbiter | well actually |
| 04:20.05 | Darkarbiter | it's not as mean as that |
| 04:20.11 | Darkarbiter | the idea is that |
| 04:20.12 | Atlos | omg, how pathetic is blizzard lol |
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| 04:20.17 | Atlos | I made a new gmail account |
| 04:20.21 | Darkarbiter | a player can type a command |
| 04:20.23 | Atlos | to email bugs/suggestions about my map |
| 04:20.25 | Darkarbiter | to find out who the werewolf is |
| 04:20.28 | Atlos | and gm from gmail.com isn't allowed |
| 04:20.32 | Atlos | it's unacceptable |
| 04:20.38 | Darkarbiter | but they then can't talk |
| 04:20.51 | Darkarbiter | for a couple of days |
| 04:21.02 | Darkarbiter | so the wolves will kill them before anyone finds out ! |
| 04:21.20 | Vail | Cryosis: whats wrong with the foot print editor? |
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| 04:23.13 | Darkarbiter | actually I have an idea |
| 04:23.21 | Darkarbiter | it'll piss people off though |
| 04:23.33 | Vail | in my mod sentries have an ability that renders them immobile and makes the produce a field that doubles all allied shields and gives them a constant 10% regen.... |
| 04:23.46 | Darkarbiter | they get a messege saying "you may not talk" |
| 04:23.53 | Cryosis | Vail: I make changes and it doesn't appear to be saving |
| 04:23.54 | Darkarbiter | then it detects if they say anything at all and if they do they get booted |
| 04:24.00 | Vail | ah |
| 04:24.33 | Vail | when you test them to they not work? |
| 04:24.56 | AsaPhelps | my td is awesome, it has 5 waves and 2 towers |
| 04:25.06 | Lilianna | Huge! |
| 04:25.11 | AsaPhelps | i know right |
| 04:25.26 | AsaPhelps | one of the towers is a zealot that shoots flaming rocks from his eyes |
| 04:25.29 | AsaPhelps | stone zealot |
| 04:25.55 | Lilianna | xD |
| 04:27.04 | Lynch | how do you guys get your ideas to make maps? |
| 04:27.27 | Vail | hmm |
| 04:27.51 | Darkarbiter | LOL I have a good idea |
| 04:27.58 | Darkarbiter | a character |
| 04:28.02 | Darkarbiter | who can't use the letter B |
| 04:28.02 | Darkarbiter | how about |
| 04:28.22 | Lynch | 0.o |
| 04:28.31 | Darkarbiter | So basically it tells them that at the start |
| 04:28.44 | Darkarbiter | and if they enter a messege into chat that contains the letter b they lose |
| 04:28.58 | Lynch | thats...... |
| 04:29.01 | Lynch | something |
| 04:29.29 | Lynch | I always want to make a fantasy rpg in staredits but never in waredits.... -.- |
| 04:30.32 | Darkarbiter | ok |
| 04:30.39 | Darkarbiter | or any vowels at all |
| 04:30.44 | Darkarbiter | this could be really funny |
| 04:30.48 | Lynch | your rediculous |
| 04:30.49 | AsaPhelps | i get my ideas by ripping off other people's ideas |
| 04:30.53 | Lynch | =P |
| 04:30.53 | AsaPhelps | red |
| 04:30.57 | AsaPhelps | iculous |
| 04:33.18 | Lynch | I could do a map about a movie i'm watching, it's about these man eating plants and everyone got blinded by a solar flare... that would be fun...... *back to the drawing board* |
| 04:33.33 | Darkarbiter | Lol this could be really amusing |
| 04:33.52 | jorgenpt | Lynch: I got my latest idea in bed! |
| 04:33.56 | Lynch | it would just be black the entire time =P |
| 04:33.58 | jorgenpt | Lynch: While trying to sleep. :-p |
| 04:35.12 | Lynch | sorry jorgenpt new to irc dunno how to send tells, but that sounds giggity |
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| 04:36.16 | jorgenpt | Lynch: Tells? Well, that was a public message. I just put oyur nick at the start of the message to show I'm replying to you. |
| 04:36.32 | jorgenpt | Lynch: There are "private messages" on IRC, how you send them depend on your client. :) |
| 04:36.43 | Lynch | oh i c |
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| 04:37.19 | Error | ello |
| 04:37.45 | Error | I was looking for a small bit of help with the galaxy editor |
| 04:38.04 | Error | would anyone know how to unattach a region from a unit when they exit it? |
| 04:38.25 | jorgenpt | Error: I thought attaching a region to a unit meant it moved around with the unit? |
| 04:38.42 | Error | hmm |
| 04:38.49 | Lynch | yeah lol thats what i was thinking, unless the unit had an ability to teleport out of it |
| 04:39.14 | Error | oh heh |
| 04:39.21 | Error | well then |
| 04:39.33 | Error | anyone know how to tell if a unit in a specified region dies? |
| 04:39.36 | jorgenpt | Error: Why are you associating a unit with a region? There's a function to get a Unit Group of all units in a region. |
| 04:39.51 | Error | hmm |
| 04:40.02 | Error | I'm still pretty new to this =P |
| 04:40.36 | Error | I'm doing a remake of Arathi Basin battleground in SC2 |
| 04:40.39 | jorgenpt | I'm not trying to be critical, but sometimes it helps people trying to help you more if you explain what you're trying to achieve and not ask how to solve it the way you're thinking of right now. :-) |
| 04:40.49 | Error | trying to make it so areas are capture-able |
| 04:41.03 | HeyRevolver | hey dude |
| 04:41.06 | jorgenpt | Let me start up GE :) |
| 04:41.10 | HeyRevolver | i spent 3 ays making a capture system |
| 04:41.16 | HeyRevolver | you want to look at it? |
| 04:41.28 | Error | wouldn't hurt if you don't mind |
| 04:41.31 | jorgenpt | What's Arathi Basin? |
| 04:41.41 | Error | WoW thing =P |
| 04:41.45 | Lynch | its a world of warcraft battleground |
| 04:42.00 | jorgenpt | Aha |
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| 04:42.20 | Darkarbiter | Anyone know how rodrigo did the whole debates entirely dialog based thing? |
| 04:42.21 | Lynch | well, error you can make a trigger that is event unit dies, condition unit is in region actions blah |
| 04:42.29 | Darkarbiter | any good tutorials on how to do something similar? |
| 04:43.45 | Error | Lynch: haven't had any experience with conditionals yet... still learning =) |
| 04:44.56 | Lynch | they're easy just select comparison and click the value 1 and switch it to unit in region |
| 04:45.42 | Cryosis | sigh |
| 04:45.45 | Cryosis | failure still |
| 04:45.53 | Darkarbiter | OMG |
| 04:45.56 | Darkarbiter | I have the best idea ever |
| 04:46.00 | Cryosis | so using a custom footprint for terrain deformatiion doesn't work |
| 04:46.22 | Cryosis | it just makes big squares |
| 04:47.02 | Lynch | but... big squares are fun |
| 04:47.10 | Cryosis | . |
| 04:47.12 | Darkarbiter | We could make |
| 04:47.16 | Darkarbiter | Mao the card game |
| 04:47.19 | Darkarbiter | for starcraft 2 |
| 04:47.20 | Cryosis | Mao? |
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| 04:48.15 | Darkarbiter | basically |
| 04:48.18 | Darkarbiter | it's like uni |
| 04:48.24 | Darkarbiter | only you play it with a standard deck of cards |
| 04:48.27 | Xtek | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/curse-data-center#utm_campaign=unknown&utm_source=5485124&utm_medium=social <- |
| 04:48.37 | Darkarbiter | there's a few basic rules, like reverse player order and stuff |
| 04:48.48 | Darkarbiter | but you don't actually explain which card does which, or a lot of the rules to new players |
| 04:48.49 | Darkarbiter | AND |
| 04:48.56 | Darkarbiter | every time someone wins (runs out of cards) |
| 04:48.58 | Darkarbiter | they get to add a new rule |
| 04:49.08 | Darkarbiter | it gets ridiculously hard over tim |
| 04:49.10 | Darkarbiter | time* |
| 04:49.19 | Cryosis | oh yes I have played this |
| 04:49.24 | Cryosis | that's a terrible idea |
| 04:49.29 | Darkarbiter | why terrible? |
| 04:49.41 | Cryosis | The fun of that game comes from creating new rules that your friends won't figure out |
| 04:50.19 | Darkarbiter | yeh |
| 04:50.27 | Darkarbiter | so, you'll be able to do that |
| 04:50.32 | Cryosis | how so? |
| 04:50.45 | Darkarbiter | well, this will rely on people using the enforce penalty button fairly |
| 04:50.53 | Darkarbiter | so, it'll be pretty much restricted to playing with friends |
| 04:51.01 | Cryosis | :\ |
| 04:51.04 | Cryosis | yah |
| 04:51.08 | Cryosis | it would be totally niche |
| 04:51.41 | Darkarbiter | oh well |
| 04:51.45 | Darkarbiter | just need a big friends list :) |
| 04:51.49 | Darkarbiter | and you only need like 4 players |
| 04:53.25 | Darkarbiter | I mean I love that card game |
| 04:53.29 | Darkarbiter | and hardly ever get to play it |
| 04:53.37 | Darkarbiter | I was gonna try it out just with a random number generator |
| 04:53.46 | Darkarbiter | but with starcraft 2, won't be as good as IRL, but could definitely work |
| 04:56.21 | Darkarbiter | is there an easy way to make the entire screen black for the entire game? |
| 04:58.00 | Darkarbiter | oh right |
| 04:58.00 | Darkarbiter | just give them no units |
| 04:58.21 | Trager|546|US | If I publish an update as private, will the last public one still be available? |
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| 05:00.21 | ProzaicMuze | lmfao |
| 05:00.29 | ProzaicMuze | This latest leverage episode is the best ever! |
| 05:00.32 | Darkarbiter | Who here is good with dialog boxes? |
| 05:01.06 | arturusfury | damn Prozaic now your gonna make me wanna go watch it |
| 05:01.59 | ProzaicMuze | You bettah! |
| 05:02.15 | ProzaicMuze | The stereotypes are hilarious |
| 05:02.32 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 05:02.33 | arturusfury | Are you talking about the Rashomon Job episode? |
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| 05:05.04 | lolbster | Did blizzard disable the record movie function? |
| 05:05.06 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, that one |
| 05:05.11 | lolbster | or is my computer having problems |
| 05:05.16 | lolbster | ? |
| 05:05.24 | arturusfury | cool, i'ma set it up to watch now while i'm working :P |
| 05:05.41 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen Sixen |
| 05:06.41 | purl | sixen <~Sixen@173-25-23-10.client.mchsi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2h 16m 49s ago, saying: 'repo can come back'. |
| 05:06.41 | lolbster | anyone? |
| 05:06.57 | lolbster | :( |
| 05:07.27 | lolbster | can someone test something for me? |
| 05:08.49 | Atlos | damn, polishing a map takes more time than making it |
| 05:08.58 | soundsnc | i hear ya altos |
| 05:09.08 | soundsnc | its easy to prototype ideas |
| 05:09.08 | Atlos | especially making it user friendly |
| 05:09.20 | Darkarbiter | why does everyone love sixen so much? |
| 05:09.36 | Darkarbiter | And come on |
| 05:09.39 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen Bifuu |
| 05:10.26 | purl | bifuu is currently on #sc2mapster, last said: 'i dont think that much'. |
| 05:10.26 | Darkarbiter | all I want to do is make a few dialog boxes |
| 05:10.26 | Darkarbiter | how, or where's a good tutorial! |
| 05:10.26 | lolbster | FarkArbiter, what do you need to do with them? |
| 05:10.26 | Darkarbiter | Ok basically |
| 05:10.26 | Darkarbiter | have you ever played the game werewolf? |
| 05:10.27 | Darkarbiter | as in the IRL version |
| 05:10.27 | Darkarbiter | well anyway |
| 05:10.30 | Darkarbiter | people are gonna click on options (e.g. voting who to lynch) |
| 05:10.34 | Atlos | dialogs are simple, what's the issue? |
| 05:10.37 | Darkarbiter | as well as setup the game at the start |
| 05:10.45 | Darkarbiter | I dunno, I click crate dialog box and it doesn't appear |
| 05:10.51 | Atlos | you have to then do |
| 05:10.55 | Atlos | show last created dialog |
| 05:10.55 | Darkarbiter | basically: same setup as debates |
| 05:10.57 | Atlos | its hidden by default |
| 05:11.01 | Darkarbiter | ah ok |
| 05:11.07 | Atlos | or show <dialog variable> |
| 05:11.15 | Atlos | since it's better to keep things stored as variables |
| 05:11.22 | Darkarbiter | yeh |
| 05:11.45 | Darkarbiter | I'm familiar with leaderboards |
| 05:12.22 | Atlos | yea, if you need help with the buttons just lemme know |
| 05:12.30 | Atlos | I've got a dialog system at the start of my map I can show you |
| 05:12.36 | Darkarbiter | Well what I'd like is |
| 05:12.39 | Darkarbiter | yeh, that'd be good |
| 05:12.45 | Darkarbiter | a wide rectangle button |
| 05:12.47 | Darkarbiter | that has text on it |
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| 05:13.25 | lobster | sorry about that |
| 05:13.31 | lobster | so what were you trying to do? |
| 05:14.56 | Darkarbiter | Ok basically |
| 05:14.56 | Darkarbiter | start of game: |
| 05:14.56 | Atlos | http://pastebin.com/8wyEFBbH |
| 05:14.56 | Atlos | that's the two triggers I use |
| 05:14.56 | Atlos | the second trigger could be made slightly more efficient |
| 05:14.57 | Atlos | but works fine |
| 05:14.57 | PapaRoach | im having a question. i have a waiting function that runs every 1 second to check weather or not to run a rather lengthy set of functions. if the conditions are found to be false should the trigger create lagg? |
| 05:15.20 | PapaRoach | i have* |
| 05:15.32 | Atlos | hmm, not positive but I'm assuming since it still has to check for a periodic event to see if the conditions are true then it might create some lag |
| 05:15.41 | PapaRoach | because it seems every time the 1 second event for the function goes off i get a .1 second lag. but i have no wait actions |
| 05:16.31 | lobster | Darkarbiter ??? |
| 05:16.42 | Darkarbiter | sorry |
| 05:16.43 | Xackery | http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20100825 Jedi Wizurd. |
| 05:16.43 | Darkarbiter | ok so at the start |
| 05:16.52 | Darkarbiter | you have some dialog boxes |
| 05:16.56 | Darkarbiter | click options |
| 05:17.07 | Darkarbiter | then some time goes bye |
| 05:17.13 | Atlos | yea so at the start I create the dialog with the buttons |
| 05:17.16 | Darkarbiter | certain players are told they are werewolve(s) |
| 05:17.25 | Atlos | oooh woops keep going lol |
| 05:17.26 | Darkarbiter | they choose who to kill (or to kill no one) |
| 05:17.30 | Darkarbiter | eventually everyone dies |
| 05:17.43 | Darkarbiter | except for either peaseants or werewolf, and one team wins |
| 05:17.51 | Darkarbiter | I can work out how to do the variables bit |
| 05:17.58 | Darkarbiter | just the dialog boxes I don't know about |
| 05:18.18 | Atlos | well basically just create the layout |
| 05:18.18 | lobster | Create a dialog box |
| 05:18.21 | Atlos | and when a button is used |
| 05:18.24 | Atlos | just hide that button |
| 05:18.25 | lobster | set its size and position |
| 05:18.28 | Atlos | so nobody can select it |
| 05:18.33 | lobster | show the dialog |
| 05:18.52 | Darkarbiter | Well |
| 05:18.57 | Darkarbiter | there'll be voting though |
| 05:19.02 | lobster | Oh |
| 05:19.08 | Darkarbiter | so I guess I could limit voting to one per player by hiding it as soon as it's used? |
| 05:19.14 | lobster | Sure |
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| 05:19.31 | Darkarbiter | once I work out how |
| 05:19.34 | Darkarbiter | this really shouldn't take long |
| 05:19.36 | devilesk | i just got out of the cupperz league |
| 05:19.40 | Darkarbiter | and it's a fun game :) |
| 05:19.45 | Darkarbiter | quite social though, so it'll never be popular |
| 05:19.45 | devilesk | only took 22 games |
| 05:19.58 | devilesk | now im a diamond |
| 05:20.22 | Atlos | lmao devilesk |
| 05:20.24 | Atlos | how'd your cheeses go |
| 05:20.30 | devilesk | uh |
| 05:20.33 | devilesk | i never cheese brah |
| 05:20.44 | Jum-Jum | theres no such thing as cheese! |
| 05:20.46 | PapaRoach | *laughs* |
| 05:20.46 | Atlos | you made a thread about how you were going to cheese coppers lol |
| 05:20.51 | devilesk | that was in beta |
| 05:20.53 | rooj | the moon is made of cheese |
| 05:20.57 | devilesk | and that was when i intentinoally |
| 05:20.59 | devilesk | lost my placements |
| 05:21.01 | devilesk | to get placed in bronze |
| 05:21.02 | Qumanhawk | I have a question. On a units armor display, weapon display, it shows their base amount and then anything from buffs or behaviors it shows in ( ) and in green text. Is there any way I can just combine this number so that you don't see the ( )? |
| 05:21.08 | devilesk | and that was |
| 05:21.09 | Atlos | oh lulz |
| 05:21.10 | devilesk | in 2v2 league |
| 05:21.20 | devilesk | although i have to say |
| 05:21.21 | Atlos | sc2 melee is already dead to me |
| 05:21.22 | devilesk | i did enjohy all those |
| 05:21.23 | devilesk | TvZ's |
| 05:21.25 | devilesk | :D |
| 05:21.26 | Atlos | exceptwhen I play against rl friends |
| 05:21.27 | devilesk | gg reapers |
| 05:21.28 | devilesk | LOL |
| 05:21.28 | Darkarbiter | sc2 melee is great |
| 05:21.30 | Darkarbiter | stfu :P |
| 05:21.35 | devilesk | lololol 3rax reaper |
| 05:21.49 | devilesk | rolling the zergs |
| 05:21.53 | Atlos | uggh I hate reapers |
| 05:22.02 | Jum-Jum | reapers are not a fun unit |
| 05:22.20 | devilesk | reapers are the best |
| 05:22.23 | devilesk | rape all tier 1 |
| 05:22.24 | Atlos | the last match I played for 2v2 the guy rushed straight to reapers and build a barracks with like his 7th scv right outside my base where I wuoldn't scout |
| 05:22.25 | devilesk | kite all day |
| 05:22.29 | Atlos | and would just spawn reapers next to my base |
| 05:22.39 | Atlos | he went like rax7 gas9 |
| 05:23.07 | Darkarbiter | lol |
| 05:23.14 | Darkarbiter | 6REAPER |
| 05:23.15 | Darkarbiter | DEATH |
| 05:23.26 | Jum-Jum | played a 3v3 with my friends yesterday |
| 05:23.27 | Darkarbiter | all this talk of reapers |
| 05:23.29 | Atlos | his buddy did one of those cheese zergling rushes too lol |
| 05:23.33 | Jum-Jum | honestly killed 30 zealots |
| 05:23.36 | Darkarbiter | 6 reaper loses to proxy cannon! |
| 05:23.37 | Jum-Jum | with only 8 reapers |
| 05:23.54 | lobster | at once? |
| 05:23.59 | Jum-Jum | ye |
| 05:24.05 | Jum-Jum | they 3v3 massed zealot rushed |
| 05:24.11 | Jum-Jum | only me left at the end and I kited their entire army |
| 05:24.15 | Jum-Jum | and then I got facerolled |
| 05:24.17 | Jum-Jum | but still! pretty fun |
| 05:24.28 | Atlos | if I turn a trigger off |
| 05:24.34 | Atlos | will it continue to run its actions |
| 05:24.37 | Atlos | and just no re-run again? |
| 05:24.40 | Atlos | not* |
| 05:25.31 | lobster | I think so |
| 05:25.44 | lobster | You might have to use a break to stop it |
| 05:25.55 | Atlos | well I want it to keep running |
| 05:26.19 | lobster | Then I believe so |
| 05:26.23 | Atlos | ok kewl |
| 05:26.24 | lobster | but you might want to test that |
| 05:26.25 | Trager|546|US | If I publish an update as private, will the last public one still be available? |
| 05:26.31 | Trager|546|US | i've been asking that for the last 3 hours |
| 05:26.32 | Atlos | I guess it would be easier to just test it myself lol |
| 05:27.15 | Darkarbiter | yeh |
| 05:27.57 | lobster | Trager, I dunno |
| 05:28.10 | Trager|546|US | fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 05:28.23 | Trager|546|US | it seems like it should, but I'm too scared to check |
| 05:29.37 | Qumanhawk | @Trager, if ur afraid to try it, then just save your map under another name and title and publish what your testing as private. |
| 05:29.54 | Trager|546|US | yea think I might do that |
| 05:30.09 | Darkarbiter | How do I make an event that fires |
| 05:30.13 | Darkarbiter | when a dialog item is clicked |
| 05:30.24 | Qumanhawk | [22:21] <Qumanhawk> I have a question. On a units armor display, weapon display, it shows their base amount and then anything from buffs or behaviors it shows in ( ) and in green text. Is there any way I can just combine this number so that you don't see the ( )? |
| 05:30.30 | Atlos | check the paste bin I posted earlier |
| 05:30.32 | Atlos | my trigger uses it |
| 05:31.19 | Atlos | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.09 | Trager|546|US | ok, I got another one, if a player makes a trigger fire, and one of those trigger's actions fires another trigger, does Triggering Player carry over? |
| 05:33.08 | Darkarbiter | ok done |
| 05:33.14 | lobster | I doubt it, store the player in a variable |
| 05:33.20 | Darkarbiter | I don't believe it does trager |
| 05:33.24 | Darkarbiter | most things like |
| 05:33.26 | Trager|546|US | ok, thanks |
| 05:33.26 | Darkarbiter | last created |
| 05:33.27 | Darkarbiter | or picked |
| 05:33.31 | Darkarbiter | or anything like that doesn't work |
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| 05:36.37 | Darkarbiter | Ok |
| 05:36.47 | Darkarbiter | How do I make it so that |
| 05:36.57 | Darkarbiter | each option has a player's name on it? |
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| 05:37.31 | Atlos | set the text equal to "Name of Player" |
| 05:37.40 | Atlos | and then select the player number I think |
| 05:37.43 | Atlos | for Player |
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| 05:40.01 | Darkarbiter | ok thanks |
| 05:40.42 | Trager|546|US | does anyone know why there are duplicates in the custom games list ingame? |
| 05:41.58 | Darkarbiter | Is there a way |
| 05:42.02 | Darkarbiter | to make it so it says |
| 05:42.08 | Darkarbiter | "Kick #player name#" |
| 05:42.24 | Trager|546|US | oh, kicking for host? |
| 05:42.27 | Trager|546|US | that's so 90s |
| 05:42.31 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 05:42.57 | Darkarbiter | I'm actually not doing that |
| 05:43.09 | Trager|546|US | aww |
| 05:43.13 | Darkarbiter | you can however make them the village idiot at the start |
| 05:43.20 | Darkarbiter | who has to vote to lynch a random person |
| 05:43.24 | Trager|546|US | my trigger crashed starcraft! |
| 05:43.24 | Darkarbiter | and cannot use vowels when talking |
| 05:43.25 | Cryosis | Is it possible to change the placement grid for buildings? |
| 05:43.33 | Darkarbiter | what do you mean? |
| 05:43.43 | Cryosis | for example a supply depot is a 2x2, is there a way to make the grid mapping for that 1x1 |
| 05:43.51 | Atlos | use combine text |
| 05:43.58 | Atlos | darkarbiter |
| 05:44.16 | Darkarbiter | good |
| 05:44.43 | Lynch | ? |
| 05:45.12 | Lynch | quit talking about lynching makes my computer beep when i'm watching a movie =P |
| 05:45.21 | PapaRoach | so i have a trigger where if a unit is attacked the attacking unit holds fire. but this stops the animation for the attack. is there anyway to preserve the animation and still have them hold fire? |
| 05:45.22 | Trager|546|US | wow, I hardcore broke starcraft |
| 05:45.28 | Trager|546|US | lol lynch |
| 05:47.39 | Darkarbiter | lol |
| 05:47.48 | Darkarbiter | I reserve the right to lynch whoever I want |
| 05:48.03 | Trager|546|US | LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH |
| 05:48.11 | Darkarbiter | it only beeps once per line |
| 05:48.13 | Lynch | jerks |
| 05:48.13 | Darkarbiter | I think you meant to say |
| 05:48.15 | Darkarbiter | Lynch |
| 05:48.17 | Darkarbiter | lynch |
| 05:48.20 | Trager|546|US | LMAO |
| 05:48.22 | Darkarbiter | lynch |
| 05:48.24 | Darkarbiter | lynch |
| 05:48.35 | Darkarbiter | lynch |
| 05:48.42 | Lynch | so how about that starcraft 2 editor |
| 05:48.42 | Trager|546|US | Darkarbiter: be careful with that, he might lynch you |
| 05:48.49 | Darkarbiter | lol |
| 05:48.56 | Darkarbiter | it's pretty good |
| 05:49.02 | Darkarbiter | except for when you wanna do something simple |
| 05:49.05 | Darkarbiter | then it takes fucking ages |
| 05:49.11 | Darkarbiter | lynch ing is hell |
| 05:49.37 | Trager|546|US | if his irc client is any good it knows what a substring is |
| 05:49.42 | Trager|546|US | as;ldfjasd;fjaso;fjasdfjsakdjfasdl;flynchsfdsafjasie;asfd |
| 05:49.48 | Cobellanez | How do I give a unit that has no model, a model? |
| 05:50.02 | Fromethius | cobellanez: dw about that come play island defense =p |
| 05:50.14 | Cobellanez | But I want my map to work D: |
| 05:50.22 | Fromethius | (also, set its art - model to the model you want under its actor) |
| 05:50.28 | Trager|546|US | I have a sneaking suspicion that I broke something, and I'm scared to publish |
| 05:50.34 | Fromethius | trager i get that all the tim! |
| 05:50.35 | how | NOW I GET TO COMPLAIN |
| 05:50.35 | Fromethius | time* |
| 05:50.46 | Fromethius | i looked through the triggers like 30 times making sure everything was right |
| 05:50.49 | Fromethius | =p |
| 05:50.51 | Cobellanez | But it doesnt HAVE art |
| 05:50.58 | Cobellanez | It has no actor area |
| 05:51.07 | Trager|546|US | do you know if I release it privately, will the last public release still be available Fromethius |
| 05:51.09 | Trager|546|US | ? |
| 05:51.11 | Fromethius | ok |
| 05:51.13 | Fromethius | here's what happens |
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| 05:51.21 | Fromethius | the popularity is maintained BUT |
| 05:51.23 | the | People should stop using my name |
| 05:51.24 | Fromethius | no one can join your game |
| 05:51.28 | Fromethius | lol the |
| 05:51.36 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 05:51.37 | Guest61224 | everyone is red |
| 05:51.37 | Guest61224 | stfu |
| 05:51.44 | Guest61224 | damnit |
| 05:51.52 | Trager|546|US | also, I want my win trigger |
| 05:51.54 | Trager|546|US | I WANT IT |
| 05:52.22 | Cobellanez | I started a unit from nothing, it had no ANYTHING, so how do I GIVE it something? I can't find the area to change anything |
| 05:53.14 | Qumanhawk | How can i change the position of the hero icons? they are near the friendslist button, but i'd like to move them to the other side of the screen |
| 05:54.13 | Trager | oops |
| 05:54.34 | Cobellanez | http://imgur.com/6fr5w NNNGGGG |
| 05:54.53 | Darkarbiter | How do I make dialog boxes appear beneath each other? |
| 05:56.17 | Darkarbiter | or well |
| 05:56.19 | Darkarbiter | buttons on them I mean |
| 05:57.05 | PapaRoach | can anyone tell me what the stats - period variable on a units weapon is |
| 05:57.20 | Xackery | delay between attacks |
| 05:57.47 | PapaRoach | do you know what the animation length variable is |
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| 05:58.20 | Xackery | animation length varies on what it's attached to, or if you manually specify a value in it |
| 05:58.38 | PapaRoach | i c |
| 05:58.38 | Trager|546|US | well, bugs or not, I'm publishing this |
| 05:58.43 | PapaRoach | lol trag |
| 05:58.44 | Impaler | Anyone know how to make an upgrade replace a units weapon with a new weapon? |
| 05:58.46 | PapaRoach | what did you do to it this time |
| 05:58.48 | Trager|546|US | bout to lose my entire user base lol |
| 05:59.20 | Trager|546|US | I dicked around with the losing trigger to try to make it so if someone just leaves they'll lose |
| 05:59.31 | PapaRoach | =P |
| 05:59.37 | Trager|546|US | It'll work, but a shitton of error messages might pop up |
| 05:59.37 | PapaRoach | *game crashs* |
| 05:59.45 | Trager|546|US | and my triggers might try to divide by zero |
| 05:59.48 | Trager|546|US | so the usual |
| 05:59.50 | PapaRoach | LOL |
| 06:00.09 | Xackery | lol trager, nice :) |
| 06:00.13 | Impaler | I want to give a Dark Templar a new attack that will do 35 damage x 2 seperate attacks for maximum ling killing efficiency |
| 06:00.14 | Xackery | sounds better than nexus wars in my book |
| 06:00.34 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 06:00.50 | Impaler | Now that I have the Scyth vielding DT's as the visual side of it I just need to switch weapons |
| 06:00.53 | Trager|546|US | I finally broke 100 players an hour, I shouldn't still be trying to make losing work |
| 06:00.55 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 06:00.58 | Trager|546|US | or winning for that matter |
| 06:01.05 | Darkarbiter | 100 players |
| 06:01.10 | Trager|546|US | aww yea |
| 06:01.10 | Darkarbiter | or 100 games? |
| 06:01.17 | Trager|546|US | the second one |
| 06:01.19 | Darkarbiter | I had 400 the other day :P |
| 06:01.29 | Trager|546|US | pffft |
| 06:01.34 | Xackery | wow, nice :) |
| 06:01.36 | Cobellanez | I require assistance |
| 06:01.41 | Xackery | I wonder if my game will ever get that popular. :/ |
| 06:01.44 | Trager|546|US | your game is too mainstream |
| 06:01.45 | Impaler | Anyone know how to do weapon switching? I know upgrades can modify parameters of a weapon but I think a whole new weapon here is apropriate |
| 06:02.07 | Waterbottles | why does the custom games list look so weird |
| 06:02.09 | Cobellanez | :\ |
| 06:02.16 | Waterbottles | there's like 10 golems on the list |
| 06:02.17 | Trager|546|US | Waterbottles: I asked that |
| 06:02.28 | Waterbottles | oh i thought i was the only one :X |
| 06:02.28 | Trager|546|US | then everyone ignored me |
| 06:02.37 | Cobellanez | http://imgur.com/6fr5w Heeeelp |
| 06:02.39 | Trager|546|US | no, go ahead, they might answer you |
| 06:03.06 | Trager|546|US | brb, gotta make sure I didn't break my game |
| 06:03.12 | Cobellanez | I want to give the damn thing a model |
| 06:05.32 | Cobellanez | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:13.19 | Cobellanez | Can no one help me? |
| 06:13.30 | Error | ok, I'm keeping a count of how many units are in each region, only problem is, when a unit dies, how do I tell if it's in a region? |
| 06:13.38 | Error | can't find it for the life of me |
| 06:14.50 | Xackery | make a condition in the unit die event seeing if triggering unit is in your region |
| 06:15.04 | Impaler | Anyone know how to make an upgrade replace or add weapons to a unit? |
| 06:15.13 | Error | hold, think I just found it |
| 06:15.20 | Error | figures after I ask =( |
| 06:15.22 | Error | thanks |
| 06:15.48 | Cobellanez | Probably just remove a weapon and then add one, but idk |
| 06:15.50 | rooj | !! |
| 06:15.51 | rooj | ITS AN ERROR |
| 06:15.55 | rooj | WE MUST FIX IT |
| 06:16.05 | Xackery | Cobellanez: |
| 06:16.19 | Xackery | is the nydus vein not showing a model when you put it in the world? |
| 06:16.21 | Impaler | yes I want to remove the old weapon and add two new ones (which will then be used independently) |
| 06:16.31 | Cobellanez | It had no model whatsoever |
| 06:16.36 | Impaler | but I know know how thats done, what field needs to be changed |
| 06:16.41 | Cobellanez | When I tried to make it, it crashed |
| 06:16.44 | Impaler | I dont* |
| 06:17.09 | Xackery | well, what is it a copy of? |
| 06:17.10 | rooj | you have to link the actor to the model and the unit, cobellanez |
| 06:17.18 | Cobellanez | Yes, but HOW? |
| 06:17.20 | Xackery | yeah, zergbloodmediumbuilding may be it. |
| 06:17.27 | Impaler | I'm making a modified form of Dark Templar warp blades |
| 06:17.32 | Xackery | you add an event inside the actor |
| 06:17.42 | Xackery | UnitBirth.NydusVeinID |
| 06:17.42 | Xackery | Create |
| 06:17.59 | Impaler | rather then one attack of 45 I'm making 2 attacks of 35 for thouse dual scyth weilding DTs |
| 06:18.37 | Impaler | I'm going to give them un-linked cooldown so they can hit multiple targets simultaniously and tear through zerglings |
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| 06:19.42 | rooj | cobell, when you're viewing actors tab in the data editor, click the Art tab, the Model drop down menu is there |
| 06:19.44 | Impaler | Anyone have a clue how that can be done, I have the weapons made, just need to assign it to the unit |
| 06:20.03 | Darkarbiter | Here's an important question |
| 06:20.11 | Darkarbiter | if you set alliance to be one way |
| 06:20.18 | Darkarbiter | ok or put it this way |
| 06:20.26 | Impaler | Dose an upgrade need to work through some intermediary effect or behavior to change a weapon? |
| 06:20.30 | Darkarbiter | say you set player 1 to treat player 2 as ally |
| 06:20.35 | Darkarbiter | but not the other way round |
| 06:20.52 | Darkarbiter | when player 1 uses ally chat, player 2 sees it, but when player 2 uses ally chat then player one does not see it correct? |
| 06:21.03 | PapaRoach | does sc2 run faster in fullscreen than in windowed mode? |
| 06:21.05 | Darkarbiter | you can determine the source of chat can't you? |
| 06:21.12 | Darkarbiter | actually that won't work |
| 06:21.44 | Darkarbiter | is there a way to have custom chat modes? |
| 06:22.07 | Darkarbiter | e.g. called "mafia" that only players in player group "whatever' see |
| 06:22.44 | PapaRoach | i guess the real reason my map is lagging is because i have firefox, itunes, the editor, and starcraft 2 on as well as viewing multiple windows on 2 monitors.... |
| 06:23.36 | Cobellanez | I just can't find the connection between models/actors and units |
| 06:24.04 | PapaRoach | units are made of an actor which is the data form of the model |
| 06:24.18 | rooj | you wont need to edit any models, but you need to click SHOW RAW DATA button |
| 06:24.39 | Cobellanez | Yes, but I can't find where the unit makes any reference to models/actors in text |
| 06:24.52 | rooj | it doesnt |
| 06:24.58 | Cobellanez | Then how does it USE it? |
| 06:24.59 | rooj | i wish someone had told me that |
| 06:25.12 | rooj | the hours and hours oi spent doing this the past few days :P |
| 06:25.14 | rooj | the Actor |
| 06:25.31 | rooj | the Actor is tied to the model and the unit |
| 06:25.46 | Cobellanez | No, how does the UNIT use the ACTOR? |
| 06:26.00 | PapaRoach | in the actor at the top you can specify the unit |
| 06:26.00 | Cobellanez | I can't find any damn way of adding actors to units |
| 06:26.15 | rooj | you dont |
| 06:26.23 | rooj | you add the unit to the actor |
| 06:26.34 | Cobellanez | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 06:26.53 | rooj | cccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk |
| 06:27.01 | rooj | yes, i felt the same way, lol |
| 06:28.15 | PapaRoach | hm, the hellion has dust fly behind it when it drives, is this part of its animation, or is it something i can add to another unit |
| 06:28.19 | rooj | did you add the unit to unitName within the actor? |
| 06:29.09 | Cobellanez | Yeah its fine now, just need to fix it soe the mineral field doesn't make the nydus vein explode |
| 06:29.13 | Cobellanez | so* |
| 06:36.24 | Impaler | Anyone know how to change the weapons on a unit with an upgrade? |
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| 06:45.51 | Huesy | Is there any way I am able to gain access to add a page to the SC2Mapster wiki? |
| 06:49.37 | Motive | Yes |
| 06:49.41 | Motive | you have to PARTY |
| 06:49.44 | Motive | like it's the end of the world. |
| 06:49.48 | Motive | Going afk again now kthx |
| 06:50.47 | Huesy | parties |
| 06:51.31 | Huesy | :( |
| 06:51.39 | Huesy | Forum post it is |
| 06:51.42 | Darkarbiter | How do you display a message on screen for a player? |
| 06:52.30 | Demonette | Search for text message in the trigger editor? |
| 06:52.31 | Cobellanez | Why is my ingame model a white ball? |
| 06:52.38 | Demonette | Think it's under UI |
| 06:52.48 | Darkarbiter | @ cobellanez |
| 06:52.52 | Darkarbiter | means there's an issue with the model |
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| 06:54.08 | Xaragoth | (08:49:45) (Motive) like it's the end of the world. <- actually, it is. |
| 06:54.55 | Cobellanez | Ok... I want my new structure to have the same model/sounds/actions as a Nydus Worm. How do I do that |
| 06:55.05 | Cobellanez | Since I keep fucking it up |
| 06:55.13 | Motive | THIS IS NOT THE END! |
| 06:56.09 | Cobellanez | Anyone? Please help? |
| 06:56.40 | Waterbottles | what the hell is going on witht eh csutom map list!??!??!!? |
| 06:56.50 | Cobellanez | Idk?!?!?!?! |
| 06:58.30 | Darkarbiter | Cobellanez |
| 06:58.30 | Darkarbiter | look up a tutorial |
| 06:58.30 | Darkarbiter | for making new units |
| 06:58.30 | Darkarbiter | but really, it's pretty simple |
| 06:58.30 | Darkarbiter | goto units tab |
| 06:58.30 | Darkarbiter | click data, add new |
| 06:58.30 | Darkarbiter | fill in fields, copy from whatever you want |
| 06:58.30 | Darkarbiter | goto actors |
| 06:58.30 | Darkarbiter | click data, add new |
| 06:58.30 | Darkarbiter | similar thing |
| 06:58.30 | Saeris | Did blizzard go and reset the popularity tonight? |
| 06:58.49 | Cobellanez | Why can't it be as simple as just taking all the Nydus worm shit and sticking it under the unit's Actor field? |
| 06:58.49 | Xaragoth | (08:55:13) (Motive) THIS IS NOT THE END! <- oh come on, just be a good sport and burn to death like everyone else. I have a very tight schedule for destroying the universe, you know. |
| 06:58.49 | Darkarbiter | go up the top right, goto token and make sure that it's set to your unit |
| 06:58.52 | Darkarbiter | not the copying from unit |
| 06:58.57 | Darkarbiter | make a new model |
| 06:59.02 | Darkarbiter | and 90% of the time they'll all be linked |
| 06:59.04 | Darkarbiter | if not, try again |
| 06:59.11 | Darkarbiter | sometimes the model doesn't link |
| 06:59.17 | Darkarbiter | and, cos it isn't |
| 07:01.00 | Cobellanez | What do I put for actor type? |
| 07:01.09 | Cobellanez | Just action? |
| 07:01.14 | Darkarbiter | not sure it matters |
| 07:01.17 | Darkarbiter | no.. unit |
| 07:01.23 | Darkarbiter | btw, for the most part structure=unit |
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| 07:01.37 | Darkarbiter | just make sure |
| 07:01.38 | Darkarbiter | to remember |
| 07:01.51 | Darkarbiter | the bit up the top right (once actor is done) that says token, and next to it select your unit |
| 07:01.58 | Darkarbiter | the rest is just those 3 menus |
| 07:01.59 | Demonette | Blizzard has done this wilfull for keeping you from messing around with the editor... |
| 07:02.14 | Darkarbiter | lol not really |
| 07:02.18 | Darkarbiter | it doesn't take thatttt long |
| 07:02.20 | Darkarbiter | once you get used to it |
| 07:02.31 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 07:02.33 | etravex | does anyone know what why sometimes (in my game) when someone clicks a dialog button (only once in awhile) it registers the key hit multiple times? Its jacking up the rest of the triggers |
| 07:02.40 | Demonette | yey but i could be confusing first |
| 07:02.59 | Demonette | more power by more complexity... |
| 07:03.12 | Demonette | well and some function could really be easier |
| 07:04.45 | Darkarbiter | but yes |
| 07:04.45 | Darkarbiter | some things |
| 07:04.45 | Darkarbiter | take fucking ages |
| 07:04.45 | Darkarbiter | that shouldn't |
| 07:04.45 | Darkarbiter | could be way better arranged |
| 07:04.47 | Darkarbiter | but at least it doesn't crash too often that I've seen |
| 07:05.04 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 07:05.07 | Demonette | doesn't crash too often.... nice ;) |
| 07:05.17 | Waterbottles | stop runnin like a fuckin psycho and get back to work! |
| 07:06.10 | Darkarbiter | lol who/ |
| 07:06.39 | HeyRevolver | Anyone know how to put level restrictions on items? |
| 07:07.50 | Waterbottles | i spending waay too much time on this |
| 07:08.17 | Darkarbiter | no |
| 07:08.19 | Darkarbiter | spend more time |
| 07:08.20 | Darkarbiter | bitch |
| 07:10.58 | Demonette | oO |
| 07:12.31 | Waterbottles | >:O |
| 07:12.41 | Waterbottles | what's the angriest unhappy face i can draw |
| 07:12.59 | Waterbottles | because i need to make one for those a-holes that wouldn't stop joining Custom modse |
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| 07:15.44 | Phaos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXycBv3Rlk this is what sonic 4 should be :( |
| 07:16.10 | Darkarbiter | Lol this is gonna be awesome |
| 07:17.01 | Waterbottles | What do you think of this image? Is it good enough to persuade asswipes to not join custom? |
| 07:17.02 | Waterbottles | http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/520/nocustom.png |
| 07:17.18 | Waterbottles | cmon i spent so much time on the smileys |
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| 07:19.44 | Waterbottles | cmon guys help me out |
| 07:20.03 | Waterbottles | tga is such a horrible format |
| 07:20.09 | Waterbottles | why do we have to use it for images |
| 07:20.18 | Demonette | why is tga horrible? |
| 07:20.21 | Waterbottles | a tiny image like that would take up 130KB |
| 07:20.28 | Waterbottles | that's outrageous |
| 07:20.45 | Demonette | it is png by the way... |
| 07:20.48 | Otixa | Waterbottles, use a font instead of hand scribbles ;p |
| 07:21.05 | Otixa | Also, TGA compresses well |
| 07:21.06 | Otixa | npkk |
| 07:21.07 | Waterbottles | the hand scribbles make them more friendly! :) |
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| 07:21.29 | Otixa | Also, mornin |
| 07:21.43 | Demonette | Hi Otixa =P |
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| 07:21.51 | Demonette | i'm still not here =) |
| 07:22.03 | Otixa | where are you then? ;p |
| 07:22.31 | Demonette | between the things |
| 07:22.50 | Demonette | how is the modelling going? ^^ |
| 07:22.58 | Otixa | it's not |
| 07:23.03 | Otixa | been busy IRL |
| 07:24.37 | Demonette | You got a RL?... lucky you |
| 07:24.44 | Otixa | ;p |
| 07:25.19 | Demonette | ;) |
| 07:25.36 | Waterbottles | >:( |
| 07:25.40 | Waterbottles | >:O |
| 07:27.27 | Demonette | ^^ maybe i can do post a request on SC2Mapster... we'll see... but maybe i'm not the best idol... cause i stil have to do the grafics for helral XD |
| 07:34.28 | Otixa | The seas be our |
| 07:34.33 | Otixa | And by the powers |
| 07:34.48 | Otixa | Where we'll roam |
| 07:34.59 | Otixa | Where we will we'll roam* |
| 07:35.00 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 07:36.01 | Otixa | yo-ho |
| 07:36.09 | Otixa | haul together |
| 07:36.15 | Otixa | hoist the colors high |
| 07:36.21 | Otixa | heive-ho, thieves and beggars |
| 07:36.25 | Otixa | never shall we die |
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| 07:47.11 | HeyRevolver | is there any way to add more command cards? |
| 07:47.38 | HeyRevolver | jack sparrow wants to know |
| 07:47.46 | HeyRevolver | CAPTAIN jack sparrow |
| 07:48.26 | Error | is there a way to zoom out the player's view even more than default? |
| 07:48.35 | Lynch | yar har fiddle de de |
| 07:48.36 | HeyRevolver | yeah |
| 07:48.50 | Waterbottles | cute |
| 07:51.01 | HeyRevolver | not as cute as YOU |
| 07:53.26 | Huesy | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/9176-resource-data-actors-ui-highlight-tooltip/ |
| 07:54.28 | ProzaicMuze | pokes rrowland |
| 07:54.49 | Lilianna | Oooh the inhumanity! |
| 07:56.40 | Lilianna | Everyone dance! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9rJLtz64Hg |
| 07:57.21 | Waterbottles | waht's the code for tabs? |
| 07:57.26 | Waterbottles | in galaxy |
| 08:02.09 | Waterbottles | what's the advantage of using a button dialog over a screen button? |
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| 08:13.06 | ZarafFaraz | a screen button IS a dialog button |
| 08:13.17 | ZarafFaraz | but with just some pre-set variables |
| 08:13.22 | ZarafFaraz | like the background is hidden |
| 08:13.40 | ZarafFaraz | it's basically a template for a dialog button that Blizzard made |
| 08:13.53 | ZarafFaraz | and they have some images that work well with that template |
| 08:15.39 | Waterbottles | XFD |
| 08:15.44 | Waterbottles | XFD!!!!!!!! |
| 08:15.50 | ZarafFaraz | what is XFD? |
| 08:19.17 | ZarafFaraz | Anyone know how to turn off collisions for units via triggers? |
| 08:20.05 | RoarMan | Uh ZarafFaraz you could give a buff that turns off unit collision |
| 08:20.07 | RoarMan | Via triggers |
| 08:20.12 | RoarMan | That'd be the way to gimo |
| 08:20.14 | RoarMan | imo* |
| 08:20.46 | Xapti | Sixen here? |
| 08:21.42 | Sixen | What's up |
| 08:23.06 | ProzaicMuze | Sixen, if I told you the site's mail system is garbage, what would you say? |
| 08:23.16 | Sixen | UR MOM IS GARBAGE |
| 08:23.20 | ProzaicMuze | cries |
| 08:23.25 | Sixen | I dunno. You're probably right. |
| 08:23.37 | ProzaicMuze | Well? Crack that whip mister site boss man! |
| 08:23.39 | ProzaicMuze | Get someone on that! |
| 08:23.46 | ProzaicMuze | When I delete mail, it should delete |
| 08:23.52 | ProzaicMuze | not "pretend" to delete and move to the top of my mail list |
| 08:23.53 | Sixen | Everyone's busy on SC2Replayed :( |
| 08:24.04 | ProzaicMuze | Psh, I bet they could fix it in a day |
| 08:24.15 | ProzaicMuze | Their motivation would be I'd be a happier person |
| 08:24.28 | ProzaicMuze | And my happiness is a very important thing to your site devs I'm sure |
| 08:24.50 | Otixa | cyts ProzaicMuze and Sixen |
| 08:24.53 | Otixa | cuts* ;/ |
| 08:25.01 | ProzaicMuze | I vote you ban otixa, Sixen |
| 08:25.02 | ProzaicMuze | he's violent |
| 08:25.10 | Otixa | NoU >:[ |
| 08:25.25 | Otixa | I vote you ban ProzaicMuze, Sixen |
| 08:25.29 | Otixa | He's whiny |
| 08:25.31 | ProzaicMuze | Speaking of banning, when do I get banning powers? |
| 08:25.50 | Otixa | goes back to watching Sweeny Todd |
| 08:25.51 | Otixa | :D |
| 08:25.53 | ProzaicMuze | Eww |
| 08:25.56 | ProzaicMuze | Musicals are hey |
| 08:25.57 | ProzaicMuze | ghey* |
| 08:26.17 | Otixa | Yeah, but it has nice graphic design andd violence |
| 08:26.43 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 08:26.51 | ProzaicMuze | Then i'll watch gladiator |
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| 08:26.52 | ProzaicMuze | or 300 |
| 08:27.03 | Otixa | Don't make me bake a pie out of you >:[ |
| 08:27.09 | ProzaicMuze | You wish |
| 08:27.17 | ProzaicMuze | I ain't goin' to that barber shop |
| 08:27.20 | ProzaicMuze | No sir! |
| 08:27.21 | Lilianna | likes plays and musicals. :| |
| 08:27.22 | Otixa | I'll call it nub pie! :D |
| 08:27.30 | Otixa | bites Lilianna |
| 08:27.42 | ProzaicMuze | can no longer be friends with Lily. . . 'tis a sad day indeed |
| 08:27.51 | Lilianna | Hehe |
| 08:28.05 | Otixa | puts leash on Lilianna |
| 08:28.09 | Otixa | You're mine now >:[ |
| 08:28.13 | ProzaicMuze | I just don't like the theatricality of plays/musicals |
| 08:28.19 | ProzaicMuze | It always feels fake |
| 08:28.31 | ProzaicMuze | Music is better without silly dancers speaking/singing to it |
| 08:28.42 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 08:29.11 | Otixa | :D |
| 08:29.20 | Lilianna | Not all of them are trying to be silly |
| 08:29.28 | ProzaicMuze | Which is why it seems fake lol |
| 08:29.35 | Lilianna | I think Beauty and the Beast was my favorite play Ive seen |
| 08:29.35 | ProzaicMuze | Some of them clowns are tryin' to be serious! |
| 08:29.59 | Otixa | Musicals are srs fucking business, guise. |
| 08:30.04 | Otixa | nods |
| 08:30.05 | ProzaicMuze | no no |
| 08:30.09 | ProzaicMuze | orchestras are |
| 08:30.17 | ProzaicMuze | musicals are circus acts |
| 08:30.21 | Otixa | THE PHAAAAAAAAANTOM OF THE OPERA IS THERE |
| 08:30.25 | Otixa | INSIDE MY MIIIIIND |
| 08:30.30 | Lilianna | Ive seen Stomp too |
| 08:30.32 | Otixa | cues dramatic music |
| 08:30.33 | Lilianna | that was pretty fun |
| 08:30.34 | ProzaicMuze | gheyest one ever |
| 08:30.37 | ProzaicMuze | Stomp is cool |
| 08:30.42 | ProzaicMuze | If you're referring to the percussion crew |
| 08:30.57 | Lilianna | and Paul Zaloom / Beakman's World Live |
| 08:30.58 | Lilianna | :D |
| 08:31.00 | Otixa | We should like |
| 08:31.09 | Otixa | Make a painting of all the regular tards on IRC |
| 08:31.16 | Lilianna | Yes, the Percussion crew, what else would it be, 20 guys with gigantic boots? |
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| 08:31.58 | Lilianna | ! |
| 08:32.01 | ProsaicMuse | blargh |
| 08:32.02 | Lilianna | Clone! |
| 08:32.03 | Otixa | Well, fuck |
| 08:32.19 | Otixa | stabs ProzaicMuze with a screwdriver |
| 08:32.35 | ProsaicMuse | watches |
| 08:32.47 | Otixa | stabs ProzaicMuse with a screwdriver aswell |
| 08:32.52 | ProsaicMuse | watches |
| 08:33.02 | Otixa | owait |
| 08:33.15 | Otixa | stabs ProsaicMuse with a screwdriver aswell |
| 08:33.16 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 08:33.20 | Lilianna | puts on a watch. |
| 08:33.22 | Otixa | Crafty bastard |
| 08:33.25 | ProsaicMuse | breaks Otixa's hand of |
| 08:33.33 | Otixa | hand of what? ;p |
| 08:33.39 | ProsaicMuse | Eactly |
| 08:33.43 | ProsaicMuse | Exactylas* |
| 08:33.44 | ProsaicMuse | wtf? |
| 08:34.26 | Lilianna | Even though I try, I can't get my head around you.... |
| 08:34.33 | Otixa | THE WORST PIES IN LONDON |
| 08:35.21 | ProsaicMuse | That's because I am the "Mysterious Guy" |
| 08:35.21 | Otixa | Lilianna, try flattening your head into a long, thin strip |
| 08:35.32 | Otixa | Might help |
| 08:35.35 | Lilianna | no, its the song on my Pandora |
| 08:35.53 | ProsaicMuse | psh |
| 08:36.18 | Otixa | slaps ProsaicMuse with a rolling pin |
| 08:36.28 | ProsaicMuse | bakes cookies with said rolling pin |
| 08:36.35 | Otixa | Mmmm... |
| 08:36.38 | Otixa | Cookies |
| 08:36.41 | ProsaicMuse | doesn't share |
| 08:36.44 | Otixa | steals the cookies |
| 08:36.51 | Otixa | kicks ProsaicMuse in the crotch |
| 08:36.54 | ProsaicMuse | watches Otixa die from poison |
| 08:37.00 | Otixa | is immortal |
| 08:37.08 | ProsaicMuse | laughs as Otixa breaks his foot on his diamond cod piece |
| 08:37.16 | Otixa | lawl |
| 08:37.39 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 08:37.47 | Demonette | that real entertainment i guess =D |
| 08:37.52 | Otixa | spanks Demonette |
| 08:37.56 | Otixa | Shush, you ;D |
| 08:38.06 | Demonette | I'm not here you know |
| 08:38.13 | Demonette | you can't do anything to me ^^ |
| 08:38.17 | ZarafFaraz | hmmm a buf that turns off collisions? |
| 08:38.18 | Otixa | Neither am I |
| 08:38.19 | ZarafFaraz | buff |
| 08:38.30 | Otixa | ZarafFaraz, we're not here |
| 08:38.34 | Otixa | Come back later |
| 08:39.22 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v ProzaicMuze] by ChanServ |
| 08:39.25 | Demonette | Hmmm think better try to morph the unit into one without a collision... no idea how else you could to this at the moment |
| 08:39.33 | Demonette | yey i'm not here but i'm watching;) |
| 08:40.10 | Waterbottles | hi |
| 08:40.18 | Demonette | cya =P |
| 08:40.24 | Otixa | pees in Waterbottles |
| 08:40.44 | Demonette | Awwwhh oO |
| 08:41.09 | Demonette | and such things get recycled.... |
| 08:41.14 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tofu (~thisisnot@cpc1-woki6-2-0-cust270.6-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 08:41.18 | Otixa | I know right :/ |
| 08:41.27 | ProzaicMuze | Gah. . . sometimes editing senior pictures is torturous |
| 08:41.37 | ProzaicMuze | Like in the case of this obvious jailbait gal |
| 08:41.42 | rrowland | your face is a senior picture |
| 08:41.46 | Otixa | ^ |
| 08:41.46 | ProzaicMuze | Who is dressed like she WANTS you to mentally undress her |
| 08:41.47 | ProzaicMuze | What gives!? |
| 08:42.02 | Otixa | ProzaicMuze, apply cock to mouth > ??? > profit |
| 08:42.16 | ProzaicMuze | "I'm such a dirty girl. . . spank me!" But you're not "I won't tell anyone, I promise!" But I don't wanna "JUST DO IT ALREADY!" |
| 08:42.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster escall (522ee3dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.46.227.221) |
| 08:43.00 | ProzaicMuze | rrowland |
| 08:43.04 | ProzaicMuze | you ghey pansy you |
| 08:43.10 | ProzaicMuze | When are we gonna play HoN? |
| 08:43.15 | ProzaicMuze | You harass me for a week |
| 08:43.16 | ProzaicMuze | and then hide |
| 08:43.30 | rrowland | It's called being busy making $5k |
| 08:43.48 | ZarafFaraz | what was the function in the triggers that allows you to modify Data Editor fields via triggers? |
| 08:43.50 | Demonette | you print money? |
| 08:44.02 | Otixa | MY WIFE FOR HIRE |
| 08:44.05 | Otixa | :D |
| 08:44.12 | ProzaicMuze | Poor wife |
| 08:44.23 | Otixa | Fuck that, I don't have a wife ;P |
| 08:44.28 | Otixa | I like my money... mine |
| 08:44.31 | ProzaicMuze | Poor you |
| 08:44.42 | Demonette | that was my thought... he don't have one XD |
| 08:44.48 | Otixa | I have consorts instead :> |
| 08:45.54 | Xaragoth | talked to malu today |
| 08:45.55 | ProzaicMuze | Poor consorts |
| 08:45.58 | Xaragoth | he's joining blizzcon |
| 08:46.02 | Xaragoth | you guys better got something good |
| 08:46.18 | Demonette | Poor poorness |
| 08:46.23 | Otixa | shoots epic at Xaragoth |
| 08:46.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ako-Nyan (~qwe@78-70-210-140-no156.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 08:46.36 | Xaragoth | looks at Otixa. Looks at his watch. |
| 08:46.54 | Otixa | Very late, for a very important date? |
| 08:47.03 | Waterbottles | hey Otixa! |
| 08:47.05 | Waterbottles | HELLO! |
| 08:47.06 | Waterbottles | :) |
| 08:47.09 | Otixa | hai2u2 |
| 08:47.12 | escall | Good morning |
| 08:47.16 | rrowland | Pretty sure his project is widely publicized |
| 08:47.34 | Xaragoth | he's not using his shooter stuff |
| 08:47.36 | rrowland | So if he actually doesn't get DQed then good luck to him |
| 08:47.43 | escall | Lol rrowland, prozaic, when i went to bed you two were here and now i wake up and you're here |
| 08:47.53 | Xaragoth | he's come up with something else, thats what makes me think to just drop mine |
| 08:47.59 | Xaragoth | because I just don't have the time for it |
| 08:48.03 | rrowland | If he's making a new map specifically for the contest then good luck for him |
| 08:48.16 | Otixa | Xaragoth, u r teh sux >:[ |
| 08:48.21 | rrowland | Mine will beat his though 8) |
| 08:48.32 | escall | Mine > everyone else |
| 08:48.35 | rrowland | I don't know if they have first/second/third |
| 08:48.39 | rrowland | Or they just call them 3 winners |
| 08:48.49 | Xaragoth | they've 5 places overall |
| 08:48.51 | Waterbottles | what do you think of this cute warning message :4 |
| 08:48.51 | Waterbottles | http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/298/wabes.png |
| 08:48.59 | ProzaicMuze | Who came up with what? |
| 08:49.09 | escall | I like it |
| 08:49.13 | Xaragoth | Otixa: No, I'm just busy. The universe doesn't destroy itself. |
| 08:49.17 | Otixa | Waterbottles, quite win :D |
| 08:49.17 | Waterbottles | hi otixa |
| 08:49.20 | escall | Anyone know the hexidecimal for the player colors? |
| 08:49.26 | escall | Teal ro roange |
| 08:49.44 | ProzaicMuze | Since if you're saying you aren't entering because some random dude is submitting something, that's funny |
| 08:49.56 | ProzaicMuze | Plus, you can always cheat and use me to make your map better |
| 08:50.02 | Demonette | the universe always destroy itself oO |
| 08:50.03 | ProzaicMuze | It's not like I'll know what I'm making stuff for anyways rofl |
| 08:50.03 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 08:50.12 | ProzaicMuze | I'm pretty sure that's already happening given the flux in questions lately |
| 08:50.18 | ProzaicMuze | Especially the oddball ones |
| 08:50.19 | Otixa | bites Demonette |
| 08:50.20 | Otixa | No |
| 08:50.23 | Xaragoth | no, its just that i'm also joining the machinima contest, i'm moving town and just put together some small thingy for the blizzcon map contest |
| 08:50.24 | Otixa | I destroy the universe |
| 08:50.35 | Demonette | You are part of it |
| 08:50.46 | Xaragoth | so I drop the most unlikely |
| 08:50.53 | Demonette | so in a wider sence the universe destroy itself even if you do it |
| 08:50.54 | Xaragoth | also, malu is definitaly not some random dude |
| 08:51.02 | ProzaicMuze | Malu? |
| 08:51.09 | ProzaicMuze | No idea who he is |
| 08:51.12 | Demonette | well and you can't bite me.... |
| 08:51.16 | Demonette | you know... |
| 08:51.26 | Xaragoth | you sure are sleepy, aren't you? |
| 08:51.36 | Xaragoth | actually, I don't bite. |
| 08:51.38 | Otixa | Demonette, I can >:[ |
| 08:51.39 | escall | Do EU submissions go WITH US submissions two or are they speerate? |
| 08:51.42 | ProzaicMuze | Link me something of malu's |
| 08:51.49 | Xaragoth | I incinerate. |
| 08:51.58 | Xaragoth | yeah, well, mainpage news would help I gues |
| 08:52.01 | Xaragoth | ss |
| 08:52.02 | Xaragoth | -s |
| 08:52.39 | escall | I'm used to winning |
| 08:52.43 | Demonette | Nope you can't there is this invisible wall and the different dimensional layers between us |
| 08:52.43 | escall | I nee dthe money |
| 08:52.57 | escall | WTF is wrong with my name |
| 08:53.08 | mattavich-377 | Stupid frooking captcha |
| 08:53.10 | Otixa | warps in |
| 08:53.13 | rrowland | Well don't get your hopes up guys |
| 08:53.22 | rrowland | If you like 2nd and 3rd place |
| 08:53.30 | rrowland | Then you might be happy |
| 08:53.30 | Otixa | I transcend time and space, silly mortals >:[ |
| 08:53.31 | mattavich-377 | I like $5000 that's all i care about |
| 08:53.47 | Demonette | destroies Otixas warpgate. |
| 08:53.50 | Demonette | trapped =P |
| 08:53.52 | mattavich-377 | I#m going to win |
| 08:53.53 | Otixa | no |
| 08:54.04 | Demonette | Win XD |
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| 08:54.14 | Xaragoth | bounty is some kind of idiot, isn't he? |
| 08:55.23 | Otixa | IRC broke :D |
| 08:55.24 | Xaragoth | "oh my, I don't get attention. lets do a new map." O_o |
| 08:55.24 | Demonette | damn hero revive function -.- |
| 08:55.24 | mattavich-377 | I just stuck my heros on timers |
| 08:55.24 | mattavich-377 | for respawn |
| 08:55.24 | Demonette | mmhh... |
| 08:55.24 | Demonette | was talking about Otixa.... |
| 08:55.24 | Otixa | was talking about Demonette |
| 08:55.24 | ZarafFaraz | hey guys, anyone here decent with the Data Editor? |
| 08:55.25 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 08:55.27 | ProzaicMuze | G4TV |
| 08:55.29 | ProzaicMuze | How come they didn't feature me :( |
| 08:55.30 | ZarafFaraz | aside from Prozaic :P |
| 08:55.40 | Otixa | ProzaicMuze, because you suck, m8 :D |
| 08:55.58 | TheLaughingMan | Cause they didn't like your name |
| 08:56.07 | TheLaughingMan | Sounded to much like a Male Enhancement Drug |
| 08:56.07 | Waterbottles | otixa do you promise? |
| 08:56.08 | Waterbottles | :] |
| 08:56.24 | Xaragoth | ProzaicMuze, check your querry |
| 08:56.25 | Otixa | /no |
| 08:56.26 | Xaragoth | *query |
| 08:56.31 | Waterbottles | >:[ |
| 08:57.02 | HeyRevolver | WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 08:57.03 | Otixa | >:] |
| 08:57.08 | Otixa | WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 08:57.15 | Otixa | drops a steamroller on HeyRevolver |
| 08:57.17 | HeyRevolver | highfives Otixa WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 08:57.19 | Demonette | Fish? |
| 08:57.22 | mattavich-377 | Anyone else feel like eminem's latest album ia amazing? |
| 08:57.52 | Otixa | WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY HeyRevolver |
| 08:57.52 | ZarafFaraz | Prozaic is busy right now, but does anyone else know how to create a buff or something else to apply to a unit that will turn off its collisions? |
| 08:57.59 | mattavich-377 | when does it need applying? |
| 08:58.02 | Demonette | I already said how you can try to work around it |
| 08:58.04 | ProzaicMuze | G4 didn't feature me because they know I'm too big for any one video |
| 08:58.08 | ProzaicMuze | It would take MILLIONS OF VIDEOS! |
| 08:58.18 | ZarafFaraz | I would just apply it via triggers...like "Add behaviour", etc |
| 08:58.34 | Demonette | Mmmhh trigger |
| 08:58.50 | mattavich-377 | Well if you just want to change the collisions value you can use set catalog field value |
| 08:59.02 | mattavich-377 | It will change the value to anything you want wihtout adding behaviors |
| 08:59.19 | ZarafFaraz | I was thinking that, but would it change the field for Unit type? and would that affect all of the units? permanantly? |
| 08:59.25 | ZarafFaraz | well, for that game at least? |
| 08:59.37 | ZarafFaraz | cause then after I would have to change the values back |
| 08:59.43 | mattavich-377 | It is a permanent thing unless you change it back. It literally changes the value |
| 09:00.05 | mattavich-377 | It would do it for all units in the entry field |
| 09:00.06 | ZarafFaraz | that could be a fall back, but I think a more efficient method would be to change the specific units themselves |
| 09:00.23 | mattavich-377 | >units>marinecollisions>value |
| 09:00.26 | ZarafFaraz | since then once the unit is gone, the buff or behaviour goes with it |
| 09:00.26 | mattavich-377 | somethign like that |
| 09:00.45 | mattavich-377 | It edits the catalog so it will be for all units of that type |
| 09:00.50 | ZarafFaraz | and then what about flags? like the collision block has flags you can make true/false... |
| 09:01.15 | mattavich-377 | you can set anything that can be set in data editor using that the set catalog |
| 09:01.28 | mattavich-377 | i think |
| 09:01.31 | ZarafFaraz | I was trying to use Set Catalog earlier, but I noticed you need to specify text strings |
| 09:01.57 | ZarafFaraz | so then does that mean you can't just automatically set it to modify the property of a "picked unit" based on its unit type? |
| 09:02.01 | mattavich-377 | 1 sec ill try see how to do it |
| 09:02.10 | ZarafFaraz | you need to specify it directly? |
| 09:02.38 | mattavich-377 | you cna use picked unit |
| 09:02.44 | mattavich-377 | sorry, picked player i mean |
| 09:02.50 | mattavich-377 | dont think you can use picke dunit |
| 09:02.59 | ZarafFaraz | right, so then what does the player have to do with the unit? |
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| 09:03.04 | mattavich-377 | I use this to edit novas snipe ability |
| 09:03.04 | mattavich-377 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:03.30 | mattavich-377 | effects tab > novasnipe>amount then string |
| 09:03.48 | ZarafFaraz | ok, so you are modifying an effect...but you notice how you specify the unit in your string? |
| 09:03.57 | ZarafFaraz | I'm going to have lots of different units I would do this with |
| 09:04.21 | mattavich-377 | No i think it will only edit the entry in data editor for that catalog unit |
| 09:04.27 | ZarafFaraz | so if anything, I would need to create an array in which I specify each individual string, and then it would pull the required string from the array based on the unit in question |
| 09:04.32 | mattavich-377 | so it is applied to all data |
| 09:04.59 | ZarafFaraz | what I mean is right now, I need to say set Zergling's collisions to zero |
| 09:05.09 | ZarafFaraz | in a few min, I would need to set Hydralisk's collisions to zero |
| 09:05.16 | Xolsom | Actually It seems to affect the data from one specific payer :P |
| 09:05.16 | ZarafFaraz | then a Roach's collisions to zero |
| 09:05.28 | mattavich-377 | if you need all zergligns collision to change instantly it can do it. If you need some zerglings to change and some to not change, it cant do that |
| 09:05.31 | ZarafFaraz | well the player doesn't matter for me since it would all be for the same player |
| 09:06.09 | ZarafFaraz | anyway, this sounds like a poor work around, kinda like making the zerglings into flying units with a height of zero |
| 09:06.09 | mattavich-377 | if you change the damage of an effect, any unit that uses that effect will change |
| 09:06.11 | mattavich-377 | jus tliek fi you edited the data editor |
| 09:06.30 | ZarafFaraz | yes, I understand how the catalog function works |
| 09:07.08 | ZarafFaraz | it's just stupid that something so simple wouldn't be readily available to do in such a complex editor |
| 09:07.24 | mattavich-377 | I've said that same sentence so many times |
| 09:08.53 | mattavich-377 | I can't find where to edit collision through triggers |
| 09:09.01 | Xolsom | You'll just have waaaay more possiblities when using behaviors / abilities |
| 09:09.11 | ZarafFaraz | Xolsom, that's what I'm trying to do |
| 09:09.23 | ZarafFaraz | I've already given up on directly changing collisions via triggers |
| 09:09.36 | ZarafFaraz | I'm looking to give the unit some kind of a buff/behaviour that would do it instead |
| 09:09.46 | ZarafFaraz | but thus far, I can't figure out or find the fields to do that |
| 09:09.50 | mattavich-377 | wouldn't this be it? |
| 09:09.51 | mattavich-377 | v |
| 09:09.52 | mattavich-377 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.04 | mattavich-377 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.10 | mattavich-377 | you could set the movable state maybe? |
| 09:10.21 | mattavich-377 | nevermind |
| 09:10.24 | Xolsom | :P |
| 09:10.26 | mattavich-377 | getting ahead of ymself |
| 09:10.39 | Xolsom | Hmm need an online galaxy editor.. :x |
| 09:11.03 | mattavich-377 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:11.07 | mattavich-377 | use this to detect the behavior |
| 09:11.24 | mattavich-377 | if it is applied with "triggering behavior" |
| 09:11.25 | ZarafFaraz | movable state is whether it can move or not, I believe |
| 09:11.52 | mattavich-377 | I thought you said you found how to change collision through triggers |
| 09:12.02 | mattavich-377 | nevermind x 2 |
| 09:12.09 | Xolsom | .. |
| 09:12.53 | Xolsom | Can't you remove the ground collision flag by behavior? |
| 09:13.01 | mattavich-377 | Does anyone know if i can find the hexidecimal for players colors? |
| 09:13.44 | ZarafFaraz | what do you need that for? |
| 09:15.56 | Otixa | Shaving is a cutthroat business :D |
| 09:16.04 | mattavich-377 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:16.30 | mattavich-377 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.36 | ZarafFaraz | you should be able to take a screenshot of the colors, and use the Eyedropper tool in Paint or Photoshop to grab the exact RGB of it |
| 09:18.04 | mattavich-377 | CS4 it is |
| 09:18.09 | Xolsom | Cant you convert the player colors? |
| 09:18.27 | Arthas- | so, anyone here worked with text-tags? |
| 09:18.32 | mattavich-377 | a little yeah |
| 09:18.46 | Arthas- | do you know why attach to unit doesnt work? |
| 09:18.59 | Maul | maths question, how do you work out how much to add to your original figure to result in 5% to be deduced to get back to your original figure |
| 09:19.00 | mattavich-377 | is it giving you an error? |
| 09:19.03 | Arthas- | I want it to be attached and follow the unit as it walks |
| 09:19.05 | Arthas- | nope, no error |
| 09:19.22 | Maul | ie you have 190, you make it 200, then take away 5% and you're back to 190 |
| 09:19.29 | Arthas- | has anyone actually managed to get a texttex attached to a unit follow this unit? |
| 09:19.50 | Maul | how would you work out from going from 190 to 200 in less standard numbers |
| 09:19.54 | Maul | ie 178 |
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| 09:20.37 | mattavich-377 | i've not need to keep the text tag following my unit |
| 09:20.41 | mattavich-377 | so im not sur eon that |
| 09:20.55 | Clord | hehe |
| 09:21.12 | Clord | I triggered nice feature quite short time =) |
| 09:21.25 | Clord | THE Card Game got achievements thanks to helral useful library |
| 09:21.35 | Clord | it has bringable menu to see them via -achievements |
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| 09:21.50 | Arthas- | clord, you are using texttags in cardgame right? |
| 09:21.59 | Arthas- | that hopefully moves with cards / units! |
| 09:22.05 | Zarafu | Maul, can you give an example of what your math question would be like? I'm a bit confused as to what it is you want exactly |
| 09:22.09 | Clord | yeah... in those.. blaa blaa blaa uses nuke |
| 09:22.19 | Clord | to subtitle area |
| 09:22.27 | Clord | oh |
| 09:22.27 | Arthas- | oh |
| 09:22.30 | Clord | you mean't text tags |
| 09:22.31 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:22.32 | Clord | yeah |
| 09:22.35 | Clord | damange numbers use them |
| 09:22.37 | Arthas- | Unit - Create 1 ArmyUnitSetup[0][0][i] for player 1 at (Center of BattleArenaArmyRegions[0][i]) facing 0.0 degrees (No Options) |
| 09:22.39 | Arthas- | Text Tag - Create a text tag with the text (Text(ArmyUnitAmount[0][0][i])) for (All players), using a font size of 24, at (Position of (Last created unit)) and height offset -1.0, initially Hidden, and fog of war enforcement set to false |
| 09:22.39 | Clord | what you see on map floating |
| 09:22.41 | Arthas- | Text Tag - Attach (Last created text tag) to (Last created unit) at Origin point with offset (0, 0). |
| 09:22.52 | Arthas- | does not WORK |
| 09:22.54 | Arthas- | :( |
| 09:22.55 | Clord | I can pastebin how I achieved my floating damage numbers |
| 09:23.02 | Maul | ok i want to get 190 and i want to be able to deduct 5% from a number to get 190 |
| 09:23.07 | Maul | its easy to work out that it's 200 |
| 09:23.17 | Clord | what reminds me... I need add that it not display damage less than 1 |
| 09:23.21 | Arthas- | clord, please do. although I suspect im not after the same thing :< |
| 09:23.22 | Clord | it looks silly all those zeros floating |
| 09:23.30 | Maul | but i want to know what way you could do this to any number as a formula |
| 09:23.33 | Arthas- | just make it Miss instead Clord |
| 09:23.33 | Arthas- | ! |
| 09:23.41 | Xaragoth | clord |
| 09:23.47 | Xaragoth | i now want baneling rush |
| 09:23.48 | Xaragoth | giev |
| 09:24.12 | Clord | I made achievements like |
| 09:24.12 | Maul | so basically x = y - 0.05% |
| 09:24.18 | Clord | Zergling Herder |
| 09:24.21 | Maul | x is 190 |
| 09:24.23 | Clord | use 25 zergling cards on single match |
| 09:24.24 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:24.26 | Maul | y is 200 |
| 09:24.31 | Maul | but how would i work out y |
| 09:24.35 | Zarafu | 190/0.95 |
| 09:24.48 | Zarafu | or 190 * 1.05 = 200 |
| 09:24.57 | Maul | no |
| 09:24.58 | Clord | anyways editor up so I can begin pastebin |
| 09:25.12 | Maul | 190 * 1.05 = 199.5 |
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| 09:25.36 | Zarafu | oh whoops |
| 09:25.56 | Zarafu | ok, just use 190/(1 - 5%) |
| 09:25.57 | Tofu | numberyouwant = (numberyouhave/95)*100 |
| 09:26.26 | Tofu | feel free to reduce the expression |
| 09:26.33 | Zarafu | Tofu basically said the same thing as I did |
| 09:26.40 | Maul | ah thanks tofu |
| 09:26.42 | Zarafu | except I simplified it with the 0.95 |
| 09:26.50 | Maul | oversimplified :P |
| 09:27.20 | Tofu | while everyone is feeling helpful. How do I make a unit that is 1 accross occlude 2 accross |
| 09:27.24 | Maul | oh sorry i missed your step zaraful |
| 09:27.38 | Maul | -l |
| 09:27.57 | Maul | sorry tofu cant return the favor |
| 09:27.58 | Arthas- | MavercK, tried your TD yesterday |
| 09:28.09 | Arthas- | And enjoyed it :) |
| 09:28.17 | MavercK | glad to hear it :) |
| 09:28.23 | Maul | I THINK IT SUCKS! |
| 09:28.25 | Arthas- | also Im in your harddrives stealing youer maps so you can hates me :D |
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| 09:28.40 | Arthas- | your comment made me lol (i liked that comment aswell) |
| 09:28.43 | MavercK | lol |
| 09:28.46 | Otixa | smacks iMisu |
| 09:28.49 | iMisu | Hello everyone |
| 09:28.52 | iMisu | Otixa! |
| 09:28.53 | Clord | http://pastebin.com/KEqZsBKK |
| 09:28.57 | Otixa | Moo |
| 09:29.03 | iMisu | Careful with your hands, You may pull back stubs! |
| 09:29.13 | Arthas- | ty clord |
| 09:29.13 | Maul | your map has become like a bought dvd maverck |
| 09:29.14 | Otixa | swings scythe |
| 09:29.21 | MavercK | lol |
| 09:29.23 | Maul | you get the better experience from pirating :P |
| 09:29.36 | Maul | not that the dialog box is a big deal |
| 09:29.36 | MavercK | lol probably |
| 09:29.37 | Maul | but still |
| 09:29.43 | Otixa | lawl guys |
| 09:29.44 | MavercK | oh, that, hahahaha |
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| 09:30.16 | Maul | actually you should do your version of our old anti-piracy campaign |
| 09:30.20 | Maul | "you wouldnt steal a car" |
| 09:30.25 | iMisu | What are you guys collaborating about this fine morning. |
| 09:30.26 | Maul | "you wouldn't steal a standard td" |
| 09:30.50 | Arthas- | whereas I edit the loading to screen to say "FUCK YOU MavercK, I WOULD IF I COULD!" and upload it under my name? |
| 09:31.13 | MavercK | rofl |
| 09:31.18 | iMisu | Holy Moses... Do we usually use this sort of language in IRC? |
| 09:31.27 | Arthas- | Was the "You wouldn't download a car" ever used for real? Never saw it in sweden |
| 09:31.33 | Darkarbiter-AFK | lol |
| 09:31.33 | Tofu | sorry mom |
| 09:31.36 | Arthas- | iMisu Ive done for 6-8 months so yeah :D |
| 09:31.38 | iMisu | LOL Mom! |
| 09:31.53 | MavercK | i really should incorporate you wouldn't download a car into it |
| 09:31.57 | Otixa | My intro vid has almost 2k views :D |
| 09:31.57 | Zarafu | Maul, do you understand what I meant now by my notation? :P |
| 09:31.58 | Zarafu | 5% = 0.05, so 1 - 5% = 1 - 0.05 = 0.95 |
| 09:31.58 | Zarafu | 195 / 0.95 = 200 |
| 09:31.58 | Otixa | Let's make pies out of people |
| 09:32.07 | Arthas- | MavercK please do :D |
| 09:32.17 | iMisu | Otixa, I am ready when you are! |
| 09:32.28 | MavercK | well i would. but i cbf getting it updated everywhere |
| 09:32.32 | Arthas- | also, your TD said I lost at the bonus wave :< |
| 09:32.33 | Otixa | punches a hole through iMisu's chest |
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| 09:32.43 | Zarafu | in Tofu's example, he includes basically 100/95 which equals = 1.052632....the reciprocal of 100/95 is 95/100 which equals 0.95 ;) |
| 09:32.45 | MavercK | it can be mean like that |
| 09:32.46 | Otixa | rips out iMisu's intestines and kicks the corpse into an oven |
| 09:32.47 | Arthas- | Then for some reason leave-button didnt for for my friend |
| 09:32.53 | Otixa | Pie! :D |
| 09:32.56 | Arthas- | he was player2 |
| 09:32.57 | iMisu | **screams** |
| 09:33.15 | Otixa | I'm watching Sweeny Todd :> |
| 09:33.17 | Maul | yeah i actually missed that line as i saw tofus first |
| 09:33.20 | Otixa | It's made of win and lol |
| 09:33.39 | Maul | all i saw was 200 = 190*1.05 |
| 09:33.44 | Maul | then i saw yours after |
| 09:33.54 | Zarafu | ahh |
| 09:33.54 | Chriggi | i have a question has anyone used mouse look too? i have that problem that if u move the camera to the ground it moves like a million miles away and u even can move the camera through the ground |
| 09:33.58 | Chriggi | or is there a work around for htat? |
| 09:34.04 | Xaragoth | otixa, don't forget that slight bit of madness, that tells you its even better than win and lol. |
| 09:34.18 | Otixa | stabs Xaragoth |
| 09:34.19 | Otixa | :> |
| 09:34.24 | Otixa | I'm mad? :o |
| 09:34.26 | Zarafu | yeah, I made the mistake of assuming the reciprocal of 95/100 is 1.05...when it's close, but not exact...hence why it equals 199.5 |
| 09:34.28 | Otixa | I'm not a hatter >:[ |
| 09:34.40 | Xaragoth | its either that you took madness or amnesia as your trademark D: |
| 09:34.42 | Maul | correct |
| 09:34.46 | Xaragoth | I just found that truth |
| 09:34.54 | Xaragoth | because thats what keeps the fun in things |
| 09:34.57 | Maul | im sure i learnt this in school but first time ive needed it |
| 09:35.08 | Zarafu | this is just basic algebra ;P lol |
| 09:35.09 | iMisu | Otixa |
| 09:35.15 | Maul | lol i know |
| 09:35.20 | Otixa | Hai |
| 09:35.22 | iMisu | You are very hateful this morning, Did you drink your hateraid? |
| 09:35.39 | Otixa | I'm hateful and mean by default :> |
| 09:35.52 | Xaragoth | there is no off-switch to stabby-stabby, you know |
| 09:35.53 | Arthas- | Otixa, I'm typing to you in order to tell you that I never recieved the pics of your balls yesterday. |
| 09:36.07 | iMisu | I start every morning off with a Odwalla and a smile. |
| 09:36.13 | Otixa | Arthas-, orly? ;o |
| 09:36.29 | Arthas- | yup! |
| 09:36.35 | Xaragoth | I'd love to start every morning with burning innocents. But someone told me I shouldn't. |
| 09:36.38 | Otixa | Hax. |
| 09:36.48 | iMisu | Goodness |
| 09:36.49 | Arthas- | Xaragoth that someone was wrong. |
| 09:36.49 | Otixa | Xaragoth, I swear the orphanage attacked me >:[ |
| 09:36.54 | iMisu | I feel the hate over comming me |
| 09:36.59 | HeyRevolver | Youll have to settle for burning inscense |
| 09:37.07 | HeyRevolver | inscents? |
| 09:37.10 | HeyRevolver | hippie. |
| 09:37.18 | iMisu | This IRC Is poulutting my mind! |
| 09:37.20 | Otixa | burns HeyRevolver |
| 09:37.23 | Xaragoth | Actually, it didnt' Otixa. It just happend to exist, which is reason enough to burn it to ashes. |
| 09:37.26 | HeyRevolver | burns |
| 09:37.37 | Otixa | Xaragoth, true :D |
| 09:37.48 | iMisu | How do you emote? |
| 09:37.51 | Otixa | :/ |
| 09:37.57 | Xaragoth | We won't tell you! |
| 09:38.05 | Xaragoth | Because we're insane, evil and a slightly bit of random. |
| 09:38.07 | Otixa | with "/me eats shit" |
| 09:38.12 | iMisu | I will find out!!! **Shakes fist in the air** |
| 09:38.21 | TheLaughingMan | sighs |
| 09:38.22 | Otixa | :D |
| 09:38.28 | Xaragoth | stop laughing. |
| 09:38.30 | Otixa | kicks TheLaughingMan in the face |
| 09:38.35 | Xaragoth | good job. |
| 09:38.40 | Tofu | @mattavich-377 your trigger doesnt match mine and I use a similar one that gets the color fine, did you solve it? |
| 09:38.47 | Tofu | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:38.57 | Otixa | FROM THE SHADOWS I COME |
| 09:39.05 | iMisu | looks at the keyboard and cackles maniacally. |
| 09:39.07 | HeyRevolver | mmmmmmmm gatorade |
| 09:39.58 | Arthas- | good morning TLM |
| 09:40.00 | Xaragoth | the next time someone asks me "who are you?" i'm going to say "hades, lord of the dead, how ya doin' ?" real fast D: |
| 09:40.20 | Xaragoth | goes over his checklist. [x] Doing something entirly stupid. |
| 09:40.36 | HeyRevolver | burns Xargoth's list |
| 09:40.37 | Arthas- | Did you check sex with asian twins off yet? |
| 09:40.43 | Otixa | Mmrgh... |
| 09:40.50 | Otixa | Need to go to the bank today ;c |
| 09:41.03 | Xaragoth | tell me about it |
| 09:41.07 | Xaragoth | they might have money again |
| 09:41.15 | Otixa | What money? ¬_¬ |
| 09:41.25 | Xaragoth | yesterday they had a tech failure |
| 09:41.32 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 09:41.34 | Xaragoth | good thing they got a cardreader in the supermarket |
| 09:41.35 | Otixa | :D |
| 09:41.35 | HeyRevolver | what bank? |
| 09:41.39 | Xaragoth | i'd have died 8[ |
| 09:42.16 | HeyRevolver | oh that bank |
| 09:42.48 | Xaragoth | yes |
| 09:42.51 | Xaragoth | that bank |
| 09:42.54 | Xaragoth | the one without money. |
| 09:43.16 | Xaragoth | oh, but I noticed my pizza delivery folks take cards too. |
| 09:43.18 | Xaragoth | great thing. |
| 09:43.21 | Arthas- | Sounds like a crappy bank |
| 09:43.38 | Xaragoth | what do you expect? can't even make a transfer from here |
| 09:43.43 | Arthas- | our pizza guy didnt, so I paid him with a kilo of coins :p |
| 09:43.49 | Otixa | rofl |
| 09:43.51 | Xaragoth | good work |
| 09:43.54 | Xaragoth | you annoyed someone |
| 09:44.00 | HeyRevolver | card's are a thing of the past |
| 09:44.01 | Xaragoth | that makes you at least evil minion |
| 09:44.02 | Otixa | In teh UK you can pay teh pizza on the site :D |
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| 09:44.13 | HeyRevolver | yeah they use Zimzams in the UK |
| 09:44.13 | Arthas- | i didnt give him all the money either... I think |
| 09:44.20 | Arthas- | I was drunk and failed to count to 100 :D |
| 09:44.37 | Arthas- | was going for 700 monies for 5 pizzas on 2 persons |
| 09:44.40 | Arthas- | err |
| 09:44.42 | Arthas- | 600 |
| 09:44.58 | Arthas- | And yeah, he was pissed |
| 09:45.27 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 09:45.37 | Xaragoth | what was the last evil thing I did ... hrm. |
| 09:45.51 | Xaragoth | oh I know. |
| 09:46.03 | Xaragoth | stabs sixen with a pitchfork and swings his torch. |
| 09:46.04 | Xaragoth | That. |
| 09:46.26 | Arthas- | That pitchfork seems heavy, need some help with it? |
| 09:46.32 | Xaragoth | actually, no. |
| 09:46.39 | Xaragoth | But I could use a good blacksmith. |
| 09:46.48 | Xaragoth | Somehow, after stabbing vjeux to often, it breaks. |
| 09:46.50 | Arthas- | Then helral is the man for the job |
| 09:46.52 | Xaragoth | Crappy Stabby Device. |
| 09:47.02 | Otixa | stabs Xaragoth |
| 09:47.08 | Arthas- | His artisan skills are widely known in the eastern regions of russia |
| 09:47.10 | rrowland | Anybody do much with story mode stuff like rebuilding the hyperion? |
| 09:47.19 | Xaragoth | hrm? |
| 09:47.35 | Arthas- | rrowland not yet, and I know you can answer this! Text tags, how do you make it attach to a unit? |
| 09:47.40 | Arthas- | so that it follows the unit |
| 09:47.45 | Xaragoth | rrowland, what ya need? |
| 09:47.48 | rrowland | attach text tag to unit |
| 09:47.55 | Arthas- | It just stays put when I move the unit |
| 09:47.56 | Arthas- | :< |
| 09:47.58 | rrowland | I'm trying to set up a scene in my map on the hyperion |
| 09:48.11 | rrowland | but all the objects seem to default to ignore terrain height and are created blow the map |
| 09:48.17 | rrowland | below* |
| 09:48.27 | Xaragoth | indeed they are |
| 09:48.31 | Xaragoth | change the actor height? |
| 09:48.33 | rrowland | plus I can't really get "in" the building to place objects |
| 09:48.48 | Xaragoth | you know, to pull them top-level |
| 09:48.53 | Xaragoth | and what exactly are you trying to do? ^^ |
| 09:49.01 | rrowland | Just recreate the hyperion |
| 09:49.05 | rrowland | From campaign |
| 09:49.09 | rrowland | just the bridge room |
| 09:49.23 | Clord | lol found silly bug from my achievement system |
| 09:49.30 | Clord | I accidently made it write it to single boolean in bank |
| 09:49.31 | Clord | all those |
| 09:49.32 | Clord | XD |
| 09:49.43 | Xaragoth | you know... |
| 09:49.48 | Xaragoth | banks are not THAT save |
| 09:49.49 | Arthas- | wtf, it worked now... |
| 09:49.50 | Arthas- | ty rrow |
| 09:49.55 | Xaragoth | at least got a encryption running? |
| 09:50.00 | Clord | not that safe ^^ |
| 09:50.04 | Arthas- | attaching to origo point didnt work though |
| 09:50.16 | Xaragoth | because, you know, I have a boring day rewriting your bank-files :D |
| 09:50.33 | Clord | I think you probably wanna check it out in-game... :) |
| 09:51.02 | Xaragoth | no, i'll just proceed with my evil plans! |
| 09:51.09 | Xaragoth | which is breaking your system |
| 09:51.12 | Xaragoth | until you encrypt stuff. |
| 09:51.41 | Clord | oh yes.. that TS15 dude or whatever it was again |
| 09:51.44 | HeyRevolver | why the crap cant blizzard store banks serverside to make it uberbadass |
| 09:51.47 | Clord | he was working system to help encrypt stuff |
| 09:51.50 | HeyRevolver | its not like thy dont have the space |
| 09:52.00 | Xaragoth | no need for a system, just do it the good old wc3 way. |
| 09:52.11 | Clord | :) |
| 09:52.14 | Xaragoth | sort stuff to stuff and replace and save |
| 09:52.24 | Clord | I don't want make players of map manually write some damn long code |
| 09:52.29 | Xaragoth | we did it, it was good (besides some idiots using templates from hive), heh |
| 09:52.35 | Xaragoth | you don't need to |
| 09:52.43 | Xaragoth | just store that code in your bank-files |
| 09:52.48 | Xaragoth | and decode it in-game |
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| 10:01.23 | iMisu | See you guys later! Im off to work, Be back in 6 hours! |
| 10:02.33 | TheLaughingMan | Mmm, going to work at 3 in the morning |
| 10:03.17 | Xaragoth | heh, depends on your location |
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| 10:03.26 | Xaragoth | its 12 am here |
| 10:03.39 | TheLaughingMan | iMisu lives on the west coast |
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| 10:04.34 | Xaragoth | its adult business then *coughs* |
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| 10:04.51 | mattavich-377 | Guys, howcome when i add a small blood animation using behaviors to kerrigan or tychus when they die |
| 10:04.55 | TheLaughingMan | sighs |
| 10:04.58 | mattavich-377 | that the animation is like x1000% |
| 10:05.05 | TheLaughingMan | I should stop arguing with idiots |
| 10:05.06 | mattavich-377 | it doesnt happen with other heros |
| 10:05.39 | Xaragoth | not idiots |
| 10:05.45 | Xaragoth | mad folks. |
| 10:06.03 | Saeris | zZz |
| 10:06.24 | TheLaughingMan | Well I like how someone is able to purchase 4 years of service for something when the website clearly only allows you to purchase 1 year at a time |
| 10:06.53 | Xaragoth | you can order madness on a yearly basis? |
| 10:07.49 | TheLaughingMan | No, just trying to explain to iMisu that she purchased slots on someone else's server and not a dedicated server |
| 10:08.11 | Xaragoth | hrm, would've let curse do it in the very beginning |
| 10:08.45 | TheLaughingMan | Well I just happen to own my own dedicated server for other things, and I can through things on it for free |
| 10:11.18 | Saeris | sixen you there? |
| 10:11.35 | Xaragoth | sets Sixen on fire. |
| 10:11.40 | Xaragoth | We'll see. |
| 10:11.53 | Xaragoth | oh, saeris, fixed your loadscreen yet? |
| 10:12.05 | Saeris | it's 1/3rd the size, if that helps |
| 10:12.26 | Saeris | i'm not entirely worried about that atm |
| 10:12.40 | Saeris | gonna do some work on unit balance this weekend |
| 10:12.45 | Saeris | kinda need to do a gameplay overhaul |
| 10:13.03 | Saeris | if you'd like to help, i'm quite open to suggestions |
| 10:13.03 | Xaragoth | reduce the amount, spice up the units as a whole. |
| 10:13.19 | Saeris | i plan on adding a bunch of aura granting units |
| 10:13.31 | Saeris | to vary up the basic unit effectiveness |
| 10:13.48 | Saeris | and changes the basics to a more rock-paper-scissors system |
| 10:13.56 | Xaragoth | basic rule: be the best at SOMETHING |
| 10:14.00 | Saeris | and only one AA basic per tier |
| 10:14.08 | Xaragoth | in your case, have some significant units. |
| 10:14.21 | Xaragoth | or be the best at annoying me with new loadscreens. |
| 10:14.25 | Xaragoth | but put in a lolcat |
| 10:14.58 | Saeris | sorry, i kinda want to keep it a bit professional looking |
| 10:15.38 | Saeris | i'm mainly really pissed off today |
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| 10:15.45 | Saeris | that someone released a knock-off |
| 10:15.48 | Saeris | of my map |
| 10:15.51 | Saeris | and it's utter crap |
| 10:15.53 | Otixa | Right |
| 10:15.57 | Otixa | Time for me to GTFO |
| 10:16.07 | Saeris | well, i can't entirely say knockoff |
| 10:16.09 | Otixa | Saeris, your map is utter crap! |
| 10:16.10 | Xaragoth | Otixa |
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| 10:16.20 | Xaragoth | please die somewhere horribly. |
| 10:16.21 | Saeris | still fucking annoying |
| 10:16.26 | Xaragoth | have a nice trip to hell. |
| 10:16.27 | Xaragoth | you know. |
| 10:16.30 | Otixa | Xaragoth, nah, cba ;/ |
| 10:16.46 | Xaragoth | well, it happens |
| 10:16.52 | Xaragoth | you got some regular redo |
| 10:17.02 | Xaragoth | be innovative, do some new things |
| 10:17.18 | Saeris | in many ways, i have |
| 10:17.25 | Saeris | the thing is xara |
| 10:17.29 | Saeris | this new golem wars map |
| 10:17.32 | Saeris | has nothing new to it |
| 10:17.34 | Saeris | at all |
| 10:17.49 | Saeris | it's also entirely incomlete, not even any combos |
| 10:18.05 | Saeris | in fact, other than the basics... it only has 2 other units it seems |
| 10:18.22 | Saeris | bout the only good thing it has going for it |
| 10:18.31 | Saeris | is a 20 second intro cutscene you can't skip |
| 10:18.51 | Xaragoth | if its not done the cool way (which is the progammer & xara way), its worthless. |
| 10:19.34 | Saeris | fyi though, my map size might go up again |
| 10:19.40 | Saeris | thinking i might add some WoW models |
| 10:19.41 | Xaragoth | *facepalms* |
| 10:19.58 | Xaragoth | seriously? i want payment for testing your map. |
| 10:20.01 | Saeris | but that entirely depends on whether i can get the animations to work at all |
| 10:20.09 | Saeris | else i won't bother |
| 10:20.16 | Xaragoth | i'll have to spend 30m loading it, I just KNOW |
| 10:20.17 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 10:20.40 | Saeris | 1. get a better computer, 2. play when you're not streaming your screen |
| 10:20.42 | Saeris | lol |
| 10:21.00 | Saeris | i am gonna lower the number of units though, not a fan of the current lag |
| 10:21.42 | Xaragoth | 1200 zerglings is save. |
| 10:21.46 | Xaragoth | at least from my tests. |
| 10:21.54 | Xaragoth | though it took 5m to get out of that game. |
| 10:22.19 | Saeris | 800 or more is too much |
| 10:22.47 | Saeris | seeing as that's the most you can have in a 4v4 melee game |
| 10:23.01 | Clord | lol not that it is getting to my nerves or anything... but you are looking for word "safe" |
| 10:23.02 | Clord | XD |
| 10:23.19 | Saeris | well, actually not counting lings |
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| 10:23.31 | Saeris | you could have 1600 lings max on a 4v4 melee map |
| 10:23.36 | Xaragoth | i only count lings. |
| 10:23.40 | Xaragoth | yeah, clord |
| 10:23.41 | Clord | :) |
| 10:23.46 | Xaragoth | i've been awake for 18 hours now |
| 10:23.50 | Xaragoth | cut me some slack. |
| 10:23.52 | Clord | then again.. I have weird writing habbits too |
| 10:23.53 | Xaragoth | or i'll burn ye. |
| 10:23.53 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:24.02 | Clord | yeah yeah |
| 10:24.10 | Clord | lol |
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| 10:24.45 | Xaragoth | sets Clord on fire and stabs him with the pitchfork. |
| 10:24.53 | Xaragoth | don't you dare to laugh! |
| 10:24.56 | Clord | lol |
| 10:25.07 | Clord | take it easy |
| 10:25.15 | Clord | you could try this invention called "bed" |
| 10:25.18 | Clord | :) |
| 10:25.49 | Xaragoth | actually, its called a coffin |
| 10:25.54 | Clord | you could just say others "meh... see you in eight hours" |
| 10:25.54 | Clord | XD |
| 10:26.05 | Saeris | yea... so the current spawn rate on my map: 1 per 1.25 sec x 5 = 240 units per minute, assuming players turtle, 1200 after 5 mins |
| 10:26.16 | Saeris | i'll probably bump it back up to 2 sec spawn rate |
| 10:26.20 | Saeris | or as much as 3sec |
| 10:26.41 | Xaragoth | use something inbetween |
| 10:26.48 | Clord | why engine handles zergling spawn so well.. that... more spawmmable unit is.. generally less polycount etc it has |
| 10:26.49 | Xaragoth | like ... 2.37 |
| 10:26.50 | Xaragoth | ! |
| 10:27.24 | Saeris | actually, iunno clord |
| 10:27.43 | Saeris | i'd assume a probe has less polys than a ling |
| 10:27.47 | Saeris | though that's just a guess |
| 10:27.53 | Clord | or maybe it does it dynamically |
| 10:27.57 | Saeris | and i was running tests with large numbers of probes |
| 10:27.58 | Clord | when you look big groups of units |
| 10:28.01 | Saeris | what really lagged the map |
| 10:28.06 | Saeris | was having them all move at once |
| 10:28.14 | Saeris | so really i think it's just all the pathing computation |
| 10:28.15 | Saeris | going on |
| 10:28.41 | Saeris | another thing that leads me to that conclusion |
| 10:28.49 | Saeris | is that i lag whether the units are on screen or not |
| 10:29.08 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 10:29.22 | Clord | I think what helps performance also that instead like in WCIII.... in SCII units just try to bump past continuously supposed path :) |
| 10:29.26 | Xaragoth | still gotta find some good maps for custom live this weekend. |
| 10:29.28 | Clord | and not just spam more calcucations |
| 10:29.37 | Saeris | so just based on that, lower unit numbers directly translates to less lag. unless they all stand still and don't move ever |
| 10:30.13 | Clord | basically blizzard assumes that 100 zerglings under single player in 1v1 is so rare |
| 10:30.15 | Clord | that meh |
| 10:30.16 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:30.40 | Saeris | yea |
| 10:30.51 | Xaragoth | well |
| 10:30.53 | Xaragoth | you know |
| 10:30.58 | Xaragoth | 100 zerglings aren't that much. |
| 10:31.07 | Xaragoth | i useually have around 250 of those little knee-bitters. |
| 10:31.11 | Saeris | i'm not sure if anything can be done to reduce the calculations done by the pathing AI |
| 10:31.26 | Xaragoth | might be that my opponents lose due to the lag of having them attack, hrm *scratches his chin* |
| 10:31.38 | Clord | that units can just push their way directly past own forces really helps performance |
| 10:31.38 | Saeris | if i could remove the pushing units out of the way, that might be better |
| 10:32.05 | Clord | as pushing not need that much calcucating |
| 10:32.07 | Clord | ;) |
| 10:32.14 | Clord | they just ignore that their own forces even exist on way |
| 10:32.19 | Clord | XD |
| 10:32.32 | Saeris | in fact |
| 10:32.36 | Saeris | time to look at movers |
| 10:32.42 | Saeris | and see what all the settings are |
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| 10:33.55 | Saeris | i don't care what blizzard's intentions were for SC2, i want maps with huge numbers of units, damnit! |
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| 10:34.47 | Clord | gotta make this achievement later today |
| 10:34.48 | Xaragoth | i don't |
| 10:34.52 | Clord | Thor is here! |
| 10:34.53 | Clord | XD |
| 10:34.55 | Clord | use thor card |
| 10:34.56 | Xaragoth | I want terrain phasing! |
| 10:35.10 | Xaragoth | though I have some rough method for that |
| 10:35.13 | Xaragoth | I want a good one. |
| 10:35.37 | Clord | I got lame idea for achievement |
| 10:35.48 | Clord | Author is here!... be in same match with author |
| 10:35.50 | Clord | :) |
| 10:35.57 | Xaragoth | make it Zergling Rush |
| 10:36.03 | Xaragoth | Play 5 Zerglings at once! |
| 10:36.15 | Xaragoth | or in 5s of each other |
| 10:36.18 | Xaragoth | something like that |
| 10:36.26 | Clord | yeah |
| 10:36.32 | Clord | it should be rather simple timer like event |
| 10:36.44 | Xaragoth | yes |
| 10:36.48 | Xaragoth | but i want my zergling rush |
| 10:37.05 | Xaragoth | you could replace the achievement button btw |
| 10:37.07 | Xaragoth | and add your own |
| 10:37.13 | Xaragoth | moar fun |
| 10:37.25 | Clord | oh and... gotta probably add command to check others achievement lists too |
| 10:37.26 | Clord | :) |
| 10:37.33 | Xaragoth | yes |
| 10:37.39 | Clord | -achievements Clord |
| 10:37.39 | Xaragoth | or quote achievements |
| 10:37.40 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:37.51 | Xaragoth | make it a dialogue |
| 10:37.55 | Clord | lol |
| 10:37.58 | Clord | I have already dialogue |
| 10:37.59 | Xaragoth | i got that one wrong, right? |
| 10:38.01 | Xaragoth | not. |
| 10:38.02 | Clord | :) |
| 10:38.05 | Clord | I mean "dialog" |
| 10:38.06 | Clord | XD |
| 10:38.10 | Xaragoth | no, i meant like not over chat |
| 10:38.16 | Xaragoth | do it all with 'em |
| 10:38.17 | Clord | it has icons and tooltips what achievements you can get and have enabled ;) |
| 10:38.26 | Xaragoth | good, good. |
| 10:38.36 | Xaragoth | get it done by tomorrow evening. |
| 10:38.39 | Clord | just use command "-achievements" in-game :) |
| 10:38.40 | Xaragoth | i'll review it |
| 10:38.45 | Clord | lol |
| 10:38.47 | Clord | for at least USA |
| 10:38.49 | Clord | it gonna take while |
| 10:38.51 | Clord | but |
| 10:38.53 | Clord | you are in europe |
| 10:38.54 | Clord | I think |
| 10:38.55 | Xaragoth | Custom Live, you know. |
| 10:38.58 | Clord | yeah |
| 10:39.00 | Clord | I just remembered |
| 10:39.03 | Clord | damn I'm tired ^^ |
| 10:39.06 | Xaragoth | btw |
| 10:39.19 | Clord | actually it is already released but it has just three achievements ready... gonna later add more |
| 10:39.25 | Xaragoth | did those us folks say i'm arnold? O_o |
| 10:39.37 | Clord | lol |
| 10:39.47 | Xaragoth | i read something about the governator |
| 10:39.47 | Clord | maybe you are hearing voices |
| 10:39.57 | Clord | :) |
| 10:41.38 | Xaragoth | never! |
| 10:41.41 | Xaragoth | maybe! |
| 10:41.44 | Xaragoth | okay, always! |
| 10:42.49 | Saeris | so |
| 10:42.54 | Saeris | i like competition |
| 10:42.59 | Saeris | only so that i can crush it |
| 10:43.11 | Xaragoth | you're not good at business, are you? |
| 10:43.19 | Saeris | no, i'm not |
| 10:43.19 | Xaragoth | when some is competition |
| 10:43.26 | Xaragoth | you go and fetch em for your team |
| 10:43.29 | Xaragoth | I do that all the time. |
| 10:44.10 | Saeris | i'm not much of a corporate takeover guy |
| 10:44.25 | Saeris | i'd rather put them outta business |
| 10:44.30 | Saeris | well |
| 10:44.32 | Saeris | at least in this case |
| 10:44.36 | Saeris | zZz |
| 10:44.36 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 10:44.50 | Xaragoth | I take in the brains and use 'em for the benefit of the team. |
| 10:44.54 | Xaragoth | its working pretty good. |
| 10:45.08 | Saeris | well |
| 10:45.19 | Saeris | if this new golem wars was at all better than mine |
| 10:45.22 | Saeris | i would consider that |
| 10:45.26 | Saeris | but since it's worse |
| 10:45.28 | Saeris | no |
| 10:45.41 | Zanerkin | What do I change to alter the distance from the camera in which sounds are heard? ie I changed the max camera height but now when zoomed out you dont hear effects. |
| 10:46.20 | Saeris | not any good with sound/cameras myself |
| 10:47.28 | crazyfingers | zanerkin, you gotta go into gameUI data in the data editor |
| 10:47.41 | crazyfingers | under sound data+ |
| 10:47.57 | crazyfingers | way at the bottom is distance |
| 10:48.01 | crazyfingers | adjust that and you should be good to go |
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| 10:48.11 | Zanerkin | Thanks mate :) |
| 10:48.18 | crazyfingers | you betcha ;) |
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| 10:59.55 | crazyfingers | anyone know of a way to disable the dragbox in game so you can't make box selections? |
| 11:01.32 | Zarafu | hmmm |
| 11:01.33 | crazyfingers | whoa, they featured mods on G4, pretty cool |
| 11:01.35 | Zarafu | no, sorry |
| 11:01.37 | Zarafu | yeah |
| 11:01.52 | Zarafu | hey crazyfingers, you able to come on bnet right now? |
| 11:03.10 | crazyfingers | sure, on US server |
| 11:03.13 | crazyfingers | that cool? |
| 11:03.17 | Zarafu | yeah |
| 11:03.26 | crazyfingers | ok crazyfingers.345 |
| 11:03.34 | Zarafu | I already got you |
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| 11:47.20 | glupeczek | Hi. If I set the action's option to thread. Set a variable of type trigger to current action. Then do Stop Trigger that variable. Will it stop that particular thread or every thread of that type? |
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| 11:57.23 | crazyfingers | test |
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| 12:06.40 | Ashamed | erg its one of them days |
| 12:06.46 | Icebane | Wuuh! I got a shock, didn't think there would be this much people in here! ^__^ |
| 12:07.09 | Ashamed | this is not even the spike |
| 12:07.24 | Ashamed | wait until NA wakes up -.- |
| 12:07.34 | Icebane | I bet lol |
| 12:07.52 | Otixa | fucking hell it's hot outside |
| 12:07.54 | Icebane | Hmm, haven't seen you around before! |
| 12:08.02 | Icebane | Where is "outside"? |
| 12:08.23 | Icebane | Hey guys I need a beta tester on EU servers |
| 12:08.26 | Otixa | [15:07] <Icebane> Hmm, haven't seen you around before! |
| 12:08.33 | Otixa | ^ That's the first time I've seen you here |
| 12:08.34 | Icebane | Anyone fancy? |
| 12:08.36 | Otixa | wtf. |
| 12:08.54 | Icebane | oh well, I guess most people here hang around the forums? |
| 12:08.58 | Icebane | if I'm not mistaking |
| 12:09.11 | Otixa | This is IRC |
| 12:09.17 | Otixa | We don't care about forums ;p |
| 12:09.26 | Otixa | I do lurk in the artist section tho |
| 12:09.33 | Icebane | Oh alright =) |
| 12:09.36 | Otixa | And had my vid featured FTW ;D |
| 12:09.45 | Icebane | Guess I'll start lurking here too! |
| 12:09.48 | Icebane | *checking it out* |
| 12:09.50 | Otixa | basks in the glory of the front page |
| 12:10.58 | Icebane | SWEET! :D |
| 12:11.01 | Icebane | WEll done mate! |
| 12:11.10 | Otixa | ty :> |
| 12:11.12 | Icebane | I approve |
| 12:11.34 | Otixa | Also, what's with "mate"? French people aren't Brits ;P |
| 12:11.34 | Icebane | So are you a mapper too or what? |
| 12:11.44 | Otixa | Naw, I just make assets |
| 12:11.46 | Otixa | And code |
| 12:11.53 | Otixa | And mostly troll on IRC |
| 12:12.22 | Icebane | Aah alright! Cool! =) |
| 12:12.34 | Icebane | I'm not much of a programmer but its loads of fun |
| 12:12.45 | Otixa | This cheesecake smells funny ¬_¬ |
| 12:12.48 | Xaragoth | he didn't mention the stabby thing yet? |
| 12:12.54 | Otixa | Orite |
| 12:13.00 | Otixa | stabs Xaragoth and Icebane |
| 12:13.04 | Icebane | OMFG! |
| 12:13.06 | Xaragoth | see. |
| 12:13.08 | Icebane | I got stabbed! |
| 12:13.08 | Otixa | ;D |
| 12:13.11 | Otixa | So like |
| 12:13.17 | Otixa | I have a safety deposit box now |
| 12:13.22 | Otixa | It's like in the movies |
| 12:13.25 | Otixa | You get like a key |
| 12:13.39 | Otixa | And you have to turn it at the same time as the chick |
| 12:13.49 | Otixa | And then you get 10min to sort your shit and GTFO |
| 12:13.50 | Otixa | xD |
| 12:14.12 | Icebane | I didn't understand a bit of that xD |
| 12:14.15 | Icebane | *confused* |
| 12:14.27 | Otixa | You know |
| 12:14.34 | Otixa | You can rent a deposit box in the bank |
| 12:14.38 | Icebane | Oh yeah! |
| 12:14.41 | Otixa | So you can store documents and moolah |
| 12:14.41 | Icebane | OOH COOL! :D |
| 12:14.52 | Otixa | Ye |
| 12:15.02 | Icebane | And theres always a chick to turn the key right? |
| 12:15.02 | Otixa | Except they made me sign like 60 pages worth of bullshit |
| 12:15.07 | Otixa | ofc |
| 12:15.10 | Icebane | xD |
| 12:15.15 | Icebane | Just like in the movies |
| 12:15.15 | Otixa | She was somewhat hawt aswell |
| 12:15.25 | Otixa | Except like... in her mid 30s or something |
| 12:15.28 | Icebane | Alone in a bankvault, that sounds cool! xD |
| 12:15.31 | Icebane | Oh! |
| 12:15.49 | Icebane | Well that depends on what your age is doesn't it? Not that I'm 30 tho. |
| 12:16.01 | Otixa | I'm 22 so a bit too old for me :P |
| 12:16.16 | Xaragoth | there isn't too old before 35. |
| 12:16.24 | Icebane | Go go Xaragoth! |
| 12:16.25 | Icebane | xD |
| 12:16.28 | Otixa | xD |
| 12:16.30 | mattavich-377 | I made merry with a 32 year old when iw as 19 |
| 12:16.34 | mattavich-377 | nothign wrong with it |
| 12:16.35 | Xaragoth | well, maybe 37, if she's holding out for good. |
| 12:16.38 | mattavich-377 | all good |
| 12:16.39 | Icebane | I'm still counted as a friggin TEEN! I'm 19. |
| 12:16.48 | Otixa | Meh |
| 12:17.02 | Otixa | I have 3 20-22 consorts |
| 12:17.07 | Otixa | Don't need 30+ ones :P |
| 12:17.10 | Icebane | Oh, that's not what I'm saying mattavich. It's a matter of personal preferences. |
| 12:17.43 | mattavich-377 | I wouldnt care if she was 70, if she looked liek kelly brook ill do her |
| 12:17.50 | mattavich-377 | lol |
| 12:17.57 | Tofu | its the internet, everyone has 3-4 20-22 consorts. |
| 12:18.04 | Tofu | just like in RL |
| 12:18.08 | Otixa | lawl |
| 12:18.16 | Otixa | Anyway |
| 12:18.21 | Otixa | On a moar srs note |
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| 12:18.30 | Otixa | I saw a request for a Selendis model |
| 12:18.37 | mattavich-377 | Here's somehting even funnier. I'm 24 my gf is 27 and people assume she's still in school |
| 12:18.39 | mattavich-377 | sounds wrong haha |
| 12:18.41 | Icebane | Haha, that's true mattavich, would feel a bit paradoxical |
| 12:18.44 | mattavich-377 | school in the uk = under 16 |
| 12:18.50 | Otixa | I might give it a ry, but it'll take forever to do a nextgen model |
| 12:19.00 | Otixa | Soliek, need someone to help with the organic modelling |
| 12:19.28 | Otixa | mattavich-377, phail :D |
| 12:19.33 | Icebane | @ mattavich, Hahaha! I don't know if that is considered you being lucky or not! xD |
| 12:19.41 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 12:19.54 | Icebane | Heey, I'm very noobish at IRC, is there any reply commands or something? |
| 12:19.58 | Xaragoth | i know someone who'd smite me right now, if she was around |
| 12:20.13 | Tofu | your mom doesnt count |
| 12:20.17 | mattavich-377 | Meh i dont mind |
| 12:20.20 | Otixa | Icebane, type in 1st 2-3 letters of the name > press tab > add comma > space > bullshit |
| 12:20.20 | Xaragoth | my mom never did |
| 12:20.27 | Tofu | jesus. first to mama joke of the day |
| 12:20.39 | Tofu | *yo mama |
| 12:20.45 | Icebane | Otixa: To easy, lol. So does anyone else see this too? |
| 12:20.45 | Otixa | Tofu, yo momma so fat she takes up 8 transport slots |
| 12:20.58 | Otixa | Icebane, obviously ¬_¬ |
| 12:21.09 | Tofu | Yo mama so fat I had to mod the transport. |
| 12:21.09 | Otixa | This is multiplayer notepad |
| 12:21.10 | Xaragoth | sets Otixa on fire and enjoys the fireworks. |
| 12:21.15 | Otixa | evades |
| 12:21.22 | Icebane | Otixa: , So really can't "whisper"? |
| 12:21.27 | Xaragoth | you can't evade fire, its omnipotent. |
| 12:21.30 | Xaragoth | you can query |
| 12:21.31 | Otixa | Icebane, /q Sometard |
| 12:22.02 | mattavich-377 | fellas, I added a behavior to a unit that plays when a unit dies |
| 12:22.06 | Icebane | Otixa: Ty mate. |
| 12:22.10 | mattavich-377 | for a specific unit, their death animation doesnt play now |
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| 12:22.16 | mattavich-377 | they just disappear whend ead |
| 12:22.21 | Icebane | Otixa: Oh, and not mate, thank you...uuh.. Otixa! |
| 12:22.24 | mattavich-377 | is there a setting i missed? |
| 12:22.31 | Otixa | ;P |
| 12:22.54 | Icebane | So did anyone here ever play Dungeon Keeper 1/2? |
| 12:23.06 | Xaragoth | mattavich: you could always ask your unit kindly to explode in a bloody fashion, you know. |
| 12:23.20 | Otixa | I have, but that was forever ago |
| 12:23.21 | Tofu | thats pretty vague mr mattavich |
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| 12:23.34 | Icebane | Cause I'm having an idea of brining it back to life in SC2 engine ^^ |
| 12:23.48 | Icebane | Not with those old graphics but the gameplay mechanics. |
| 12:24.06 | mattavich-377 | Under "unit dies" event in my trigger I add a behavior to the triggering unit, the behavior plays an actor/model of "bloodfountain" |
| 12:24.08 | mattavich-377 | it works |
| 12:24.09 | mattavich-377 | but |
| 12:24.10 | Otixa | ;p |
| 12:24.15 | mattavich-377 | one my raynorsniper hero |
| 12:24.20 | mattavich-377 | as soon as the hero dies |
| 12:24.23 | mattavich-377 | it vanishes |
| 12:24.25 | Xaragoth | isn't someone already doing a dungeon keeper? |
| 12:24.31 | mattavich-377 | no death animation like BEFORE i added the behavior |
| 12:24.31 | Icebane | Its just that, I'd always wanted to do a project with someone elses |
| 12:24.35 | Otixa | :D |
| 12:24.44 | Chriggi | somehere who can maybe help me with that problem? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/9184-problem-with-mouse-look/ |
| 12:24.47 | Tofu | personally. I would make a new actor, one shot (lookit the yamato impact) and trigger that on unit death |
| 12:24.57 | Xaragoth | @mattavich: that's odin stealing your hero. |
| 12:25.01 | Tofu | for ze sniper |
| 12:25.02 | mattavich-377 | tofu that would mean doing it for 30+ units |
| 12:25.11 | mattavich-377 | so i jsut attach some extra blood on unitdeath |
| 12:25.12 | Icebane | Xaragoth: Really? Who? |
| 12:25.23 | mattavich-377 | odin can fk off |
| 12:25.26 | Tofu | you are talking about adding it to the events already |
| 12:25.30 | Tofu | its no different |
| 12:25.38 | Tofu | same overhead |
| 12:25.39 | Xaragoth | Icebane: Highlight me one more time and you'll find yourself in a dire situation. |
| 12:25.43 | Xaragoth | And no idea |
| 12:25.48 | mattavich-377 | :/ |
| 12:25.53 | Xaragoth | Someone talked about a problem with his dungeon keeper map the other day. |
| 12:25.56 | mattavich-377 | well he vanishes instead of playing his normal deathanim |
| 12:26.13 | Tofu | I assume that because you replaced his death anim with the spray |
| 12:26.24 | Tofu | actors can only do one state at any given time |
| 12:26.30 | Tofu | so if you want two effects |
| 12:26.33 | mattavich-377 | well, other units death animations work with this ebhavior |
| 12:26.40 | mattavich-377 | its only the raynor unit that does tis |
| 12:26.46 | Xaragoth | hrm |
| 12:26.47 | mattavich-377 | it plays on top fo their normal death animation |
| 12:26.58 | mattavich-377 | this is a seperate actor |
| 12:27.03 | Xaragoth | use a spectre? |
| 12:27.23 | Tofu | have you checked how your raynor actor is triggering his death? |
| 12:27.26 | mattavich-377 | nevermind ill figure it out |
| 12:27.27 | Xaragoth | though, when you think about it, that one is overused too. |
| 12:27.32 | mattavich-377 | hmmm |
| 12:27.41 | Xaragoth | we need a fresh unit for shooting. |
| 12:27.56 | Otixa | stabs Xaragoth |
| 12:27.59 | Xaragoth | i vote for a giant chicken that shoots sharks that shoot lasers that are homed in by moonkins. |
| 12:28.17 | mattavich-377 | no xara be serious |
| 12:28.25 | Xaragoth | i am, you know. |
| 12:28.32 | Xaragoth | gotta note that down for after blizzcon 'n stuff |
| 12:28.40 | Xaragoth | at least it'll give some lols on the forums, right? |
| 12:28.58 | Xaragoth | no idea why your unit is not dying though |
| 12:29.11 | Xaragoth | when all others do |
| 12:29.17 | Xaragoth | maybe you missed some death actor? |
| 12:29.47 | mattavich-377 | just checked raynor death actor |
| 12:29.57 | mattavich-377 | seems to be referencing the other 2 raynor actors |
| 12:29.59 | mattavich-377 | i just changed it |
| 12:30.01 | mattavich-377 | will test |
| 12:31.37 | mattavich-377 | still just disappears and my behavior acotr plays |
| 12:31.42 | mattavich-377 | tosh has the best death animation in-game |
| 12:31.48 | mattavich-377 | just had to say that |
| 12:32.21 | Xaragoth | never died with him |
| 12:32.25 | Xaragoth | gotta check it out some other time |
| 12:32.48 | Xaragoth | for now I'll inform google of the fact that having a phone from them should mean you can track it on google |
| 12:32.50 | Xaragoth | why? |
| 12:32.52 | mattavich-377 | he holds his hands in the air |
| 12:32.57 | mattavich-377 | blood pours out like a fountain |
| 12:33.00 | Xaragoth | because in combination with google street view, its perfect. |
| 12:33.06 | Xaragoth | you can stalk people from your home. |
| 12:33.08 | mattavich-377 | then he hits the floor with his gun in his hand |
| 12:33.09 | mattavich-377 | epic |
| 12:33.14 | Xaragoth | no moar sneaking around |
| 12:33.37 | Xaragoth | thought facebook and twitter are also doing good in the stalker business |
| 12:33.45 | Xaragoth | hrm, sounds nice mattavich. |
| 12:34.37 | mattavich-377 | ok the behavior is not the problem |
| 12:34.45 | mattavich-377 | somewherealong the line my raynor hero has fuxed |
| 12:34.56 | mattavich-377 | when he dies, he simply vanishes |
| 12:35.07 | mattavich-377 | should i be looking at raynordeath actor? |
| 12:35.40 | Phaos | SCVs with a fusion welder look aweeeesome |
| 12:36.19 | Phaos | they go from being a dumpy little unit to a bad ass little hover thing |
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| 12:40.09 | Otixa | stabs Phaos |
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| 12:40.50 | Phaos | nuuu |
| 12:40.54 | Phaos | my stab! |
| 12:41.01 | Otixa | :D |
| 12:42.03 | Otixa | Phaos, we haz vent |
| 12:42.05 | Otixa | GTFI |
| 12:42.24 | Phaos | I spooooooose |
| 12:42.36 | Phaos | But I am listening to The Protomen |
| 12:42.42 | rulssi | http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/k1/e4p/qslv/122814/732762147.gif - here, have some fire |
| 12:42.45 | Phaos | and that would get all up in my ventage |
| 12:43.02 | Otixa | FIREEEEE |
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| 12:43.17 | Otixa | stabs FahqueL |
| 12:43.38 | Xaragoth | sets Otixa on fire again. |
| 12:43.40 | Xaragoth | You called? |
| 12:45.01 | mattavich-377 | I need to solve this problem of raynor not playing his death animation, where should i begin checking? |
| 12:45.01 | Otixa | :D |
| 12:45.01 | Ashamed | the data editor |
| 12:45.01 | mattavich-377 | where? |
| 12:45.01 | Ashamed | look at the unit |
| 12:45.01 | Xaragoth | under his deaths |
| 12:45.02 | Ashamed | and make sure he has the death model attached |
| 12:45.09 | mattavich-377 | ooo |
| 12:45.25 | Xaragoth | puts a little fire over mattavichs head - IDEA! |
| 12:45.35 | Ashamed | YOU WOULD |
| 12:45.39 | Xaragoth | which is not IKEA |
| 12:45.48 | Xaragoth | not in the slightest. |
| 12:46.20 | mattavich-377 | id otn see a death model |
| 12:46.20 | Ashamed | hmm i want to make a fun easy map |
| 12:46.24 | FahqueL | @mattavich also make sure he has hte BSD anim sequence/bracket |
| 12:46.42 | Phaos | that guy is a douche, he throws fire at the spectators |
| 12:46.45 | Phaos | thats not very nice |
| 12:47.08 | mattavich-377 | fahquel, in his death actor or in the main actor? |
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| 12:47.18 | Xaragoth | nobody called for nice. |
| 12:47.24 | Xaragoth | you called for fire. |
| 12:47.26 | FahqueL | the actors tab, unit actor, |
| 12:47.39 | Phaos | but the fire could be nice |
| 12:47.42 | FahqueL | all unit actors should have BSD anim sequence |
| 12:47.49 | Phaos | but it's not :( |
| 12:47.49 | FahqueL | stands for birth,stand,deat |
| 12:47.52 | Xaragoth | Ashamed: We have no good footy. Redo that one, at least its a good one. |
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| 12:47.55 | mattavich-377 | the death actor doesnt |
| 12:47.58 | mattavich-377 | it just have create |
| 12:47.59 | Phaos | HOPE RIDES ALONE! |
| 12:48.05 | Xaragoth | fire is natures way of saying "have a roast". |
| 12:48.09 | FahqueL | yeah death actor i dont think should |
| 12:48.14 | Ashamed | lol |
| 12:48.22 | niemaimprezy | I'm having prol |
| 12:48.22 | Ashamed | i want more of a new concept .... but an easy one |
| 12:48.23 | FahqueL | because you only call it once when u die |
| 12:48.25 | Ashamed | just short and easy |
| 12:48.26 | Phaos | no one would opose the robots, or so Doctor Wily beleived. |
| 12:48.48 | Xaragoth | short and easy, eh? |
| 12:48.53 | Xaragoth | try hide 'n seek |
| 12:48.57 | Xaragoth | oh wait. |
| 12:49.06 | Ashamed | hide n seek blows lol |
| 12:49.11 | Xaragoth | well, look for some other child game we don't have yet |
| 12:49.14 | Ashamed | Thats a game that you can only play in real life |
| 12:49.15 | Xaragoth | those are short and easy |
| 12:49.15 | Ashamed | i think |
| 12:49.25 | Phaos | I dunno hide and seek can be made fresh and awesome. like Haunted did |
| 12:49.27 | mattavich-377 | well there's no death model under models |
| 12:49.36 | mattavich-377 | but id ont see a field for art - model under death actor |
| 12:49.46 | Xaragoth | Phaos: thats the usual "omg 3rd person view"-flash. |
| 12:49.48 | Ashamed | mby something like a tag game... |
| 12:49.56 | Xaragoth | but when you look under that feature |
| 12:50.03 | Xaragoth | its mind-dumbing simple |
| 12:50.10 | Phaos | yeah of course it's simple |
| 12:50.18 | Phaos | but a good idea != complex |
| 12:50.20 | FahqueL | which raynor model are you using (ID) |
| 12:50.26 | Xaragoth | yeah, well |
| 12:50.31 | Xaragoth | it lacks in a lot of parts |
| 12:50.46 | niemaimprezy | Im having problems with sound. Im making a horror map so I need nice, 3d sound like footsteps etc. In triggers, I chose: play sound on unit, but there is no 3d panning on it and the sound is played at the same volume regardless where my only unit/camera is. |
| 12:50.47 | mattavich-377 | RaynorCommando |
| 12:50.48 | Ashamed | i am just going to make a mini-game map |
| 12:50.54 | mattavich-377 | but it is actually the raynor with the sniper rifle |
| 12:50.55 | Xaragoth | but since bounty seems to be at a lack of intelligence, he'd rather drop the project because it lacks fame O_o |
| 12:50.57 | Ashamed | some legit mario party? |
| 12:51.03 | Ashamed | like with the board and everything |
| 12:51.19 | Xaragoth | *scratches his head* |
| 12:51.30 | Phaos | niemaimprezy the panning and depth volume is based on the ... "based on" field for the unit |
| 12:51.33 | Phaos | errr |
| 12:51.36 | Phaos | based on for the sound |
| 12:51.45 | Phaos | it's counter intuitive. but thats how it works |
| 12:52.03 | Phaos | if you change it to be based on combat sound, you should be good to go |
| 12:52.11 | niemaimprezy | Oh, thanks! |
| 12:52.36 | Phaos | np :) |
| 12:52.40 | niemaimprezy | One more thing. Since it is a horror game, I was thinking if it's possible to apply reverb effect depending on how far away the sound source is. |
| 12:53.04 | niemaimprezy | Any ideas? |
| 12:53.10 | Xaragoth | Ashamed: how about some game with rock-tossing |
| 12:53.11 | Phaos | hmm. yeah, seems possible. havn't done it my self |
| 12:53.14 | Xaragoth | rocks are fun |
| 12:53.21 | Xaragoth | as are banelings and kittens. and fire. |
| 12:53.25 | Phaos | but they do have digital sound manipulators which I assume are for things like that |
| 12:53.34 | niemaimprezy | What's that? |
| 12:53.34 | Xaragoth | some kind of shoving game, you know |
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| 12:56.17 | niemaimprezy | `And whats the difference between 3d head relative and 3d world relative? Does head means camera? |
| 12:56.28 | Phaos | I beleive so |
| 12:56.30 | Arthas- | anyway to go from text-> string? |
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| 12:58.16 | Pierrot | Hi all ! |
| 12:58.24 | Phaos | soup! |
| 12:58.57 | Pierrot | Phaos : Are you on EU or US server ? |
| 12:59.05 | Phaos | SEA |
| 12:59.15 | Pierrot | hm |
| 12:59.16 | Phaos | Or rather ANZ |
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| 12:59.24 | Phaos | but ANZ is in combo with SEA |
| 12:59.32 | Pierrot | yup |
| 12:59.38 | Phaos | soon to also be in combo with US |
| 12:59.43 | Pierrot | i read about australian spider today |
| 12:59.48 | Pierrot | rather terrifying |
| 12:59.52 | Bifuu|X | Hey guys |
| 12:59.59 | Arthas- | ou bif |
| 13:00.00 | Arthas- | oy |
| 13:00.01 | Pierrot | hi Bifuu |
| 13:00.17 | Phaos | I'm from the NZ part of ANZ :P |
| 13:01.10 | Pierrot | So here is a techincal question : How do *I create a trigger that set a player to be in a group (and give him a unit) randomely ? |
| 13:01.16 | Pierrot | NZ hmm |
| 13:01.23 | Pierrot | i saw lord of the ring nice country |
| 13:01.27 | Pierrot | :) |
| 13:01.31 | Phaos | lawl :P thanks |
| 13:01.45 | Pierrot | i liked the cpu gfx part |
| 13:01.49 | Phaos | yeah, living in middle earth is pretty bad ass. with all these orcs and elves running about |
| 13:01.55 | Phaos | hobbits are annoting tho |
| 13:01.56 | Pierrot | yup |
| 13:02.00 | Pierrot | must be wild |
| 13:02.06 | Pierrot | the walking trees |
| 13:02.20 | Pierrot | magic tobaco |
| 13:02.23 | Phaos | yeah those are neat. Don't piss em off tho |
| 13:02.42 | Bifuu|X | New zealand! I want to visit lol |
| 13:02.47 | Arthas- | Bifuu|X you know if its possible to cast from text to string? |
| 13:02.53 | Pierrot | If you were in Starwars you could have ruled the world |
| 13:03.01 | Phaos | :D you should Bifuu :P |
| 13:03.04 | Arthas- | i need the unit type as a string in order to fetch data from datatabl¨' |
| 13:03.45 | Bifuu|X | It should be, I remember doing it |
| 13:04.38 | Bifuu|X | Ok I'm done with swype lol |
| 13:05.04 | Arthas- | 'seriously cant find it in the gui ffffffffffffffff :p |
| 13:05.54 | Zarafu | you want to convert text to string? |
| 13:05.59 | Arthas- | yup |
| 13:06.06 | Arthas- | I find s->t but not t->s |
| 13:06.12 | Zarafu | hmm |
| 13:06.48 | Arthas- | basically I have a function that should return a string consiting of prefix + unittype + action |
| 13:06.55 | Pierrot | hmm, so how can i set a player to be randomely chosen between active player ? |
| 13:07.09 | Arthas- | unittype is the problem :< |
| 13:07.48 | Zarafu | seems like there isn't one |
| 13:08.08 | Zarafu | Pierrot |
| 13:08.13 | Zarafu | under Player Groups |
| 13:08.21 | Zarafu | Pick Random Member of Group |
| 13:08.36 | Arthas- | stupid :( |
| 13:08.52 | Pierrot | zarafu :thx |
| 13:09.15 | Zarafu | np |
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| 13:10.53 | Xaragoth | alright, time for the coffin |
| 13:11.21 | Aussie123 | if u some how havent watched this match go watch it people http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEV9niTmeOU |
| 13:11.40 | Xaragoth | don't wanna know, don't care. are you sad now? yes? good. |
| 13:11.55 | Xaragoth | have a good ... whatever it is for you fellas |
| 13:11.57 | Xaragoth | see you later. |
| 13:12.07 | Aussie123 | best sc2 match ever |
| 13:12.34 | Wartex | which one? |
| 13:12.47 | Wartex | oh nvm :) |
| 13:13.05 | Dogmai | shouldn't unit type be string and not text =\ |
| 13:13.29 | Wartex | hey, if I end the game in defeat for a player, will his units be destroyed or remain? |
| 13:13.49 | Arthas- | Dogmai thats what I thought aswell |
| 13:13.57 | Arthas- | but unit type seems to be returned as text.... |
| 13:14.11 | Arthas- | now i need to figure this one out bah :< |
| 13:14.20 | Dogmai | could you not write your own function |
| 13:15.14 | Arthas- | native text UnitTypeGetName(string p1); |
| 13:15.44 | Arthas- | only native there is for getting the unittype :O |
| 13:19.11 | Dogmai | =\ |
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| 13:19.31 | hakowy | hi |
| 13:20.06 | hakowy | hm maps on bnet are still crap .. |
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| 13:20.52 | GeEom | How can I modify the movement speed of a unit on the fly? |
| 13:21.26 | Tofu | behaviours/triggers |
| 13:22.17 | GeEom | There are no trigger actions related to this, bar a reset to default speed one, and I dont know where abouts in a behavious I set the new speed / speed modifier |
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| 13:23.34 | Tofu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.38 | Tofu | theres the trigger |
| 13:23.46 | Tofu | well, action |
| 13:24.00 | Bifuu|X | Hmm when did I dc |
| 13:24.10 | Tofu | and behaviours need a whole tutorial. |
| 13:24.28 | GeEom | I found it in behaviour, peeked a look at the zealot charge settings |
| 13:25.26 | Dogmai | tofu what type of map are you making |
| 13:25.31 | GeEom | and search function // looking through each unit action, that action does not exist :( |
| 13:25.45 | GeEom | so behaviours it is, tyvm |
| 13:25.54 | Tofu | Im making tree tag |
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| 13:26.26 | GeEom | ^^set unit property, ima noob, tyvvvm |
| 13:27.29 | Dogmai | cool |
| 13:28.23 | Zarafu | do you guys know how to prevent allies from being able to attack each others units |
| 13:28.25 | Zarafu | ? |
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| 13:28.59 | Dogmai | if unit is ordered to attack, player is ally of player, order unit to stop |
| 13:29.03 | Dogmai | something along those lines |
| 13:29.16 | Ashamed | sc 1 fix to that = apply ally status every milisecond ... "Gold 'ol Days" |
| 13:29.18 | Zarafu | isn't there anything in the data editor? just preventing it all together? |
| 13:29.33 | Dogmai | why wouldnt you use triggers |
| 13:29.43 | Dogmai | i have found so far that its alot easier to script than to user the data editor |
| 13:29.44 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 13:29.47 | Zarafu | why wouldn't you use the data editor when you could avoid a trigger? |
| 13:29.55 | Dogmai | triggers are funnnnnnnnnnnnn |
| 13:29.56 | Dogmai | :) |
| 13:29.58 | Zarafu | well yeah, but fewer triggers means less overhaul running all the time |
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| 13:30.11 | Dogmai | i have 1.4mb of compressed triggers |
| 13:30.13 | Dogmai | and its growing |
| 13:30.14 | Dogmai | :( |
| 13:30.23 | Zarafu | looks like you're "trigger happy" |
| 13:30.31 | Dogmai | awesome pun |
| 13:30.33 | Ashamed | its not like the game can't handle it |
| 13:30.35 | Dogmai | +1 for you |
| 13:30.36 | Ashamed | so it does not matter |
| 13:30.37 | Huesy | B styles up :) http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/9176-resource-data-actors-ui-highlight-tooltip/ |
| 13:30.42 | Tofu | easiest way to stop a unit from attacking allies |
| 13:30.46 | Zarafu | Dogmai, are you on NA bnet? |
| 13:30.53 | Dogmai | SEA mate |
| 13:30.53 | Tofu | is to change the flags for the attack command |
| 13:30.58 | Dogmai | Soon to be on NA :P |
| 13:31.02 | Tofu | there are filter flags |
| 13:31.05 | Tofu | uncheck ally |
| 13:31.08 | Zarafu | ewww...Southeast Asia |
| 13:31.11 | Tofu | and the unit cannot attack allies |
| 13:31.13 | Zarafu | I heard they got jacked |
| 13:31.23 | Dogmai | its not as bad as everyone is crying about |
| 13:31.27 | Dogmai | i quite like sea |
| 13:31.30 | Dogmai | we just dont have many maps |
| 13:31.34 | Dogmai | cause we have fewer map makers |
| 13:31.44 | Dogmai | the guys from singapore and phillipines are cool |
| 13:31.59 | Dogmai | and as long as the kiwis keep their mouths shut and we don't know they are kiwis |
| 13:32.00 | Zarafu | at least you don't have 6 copies of the same gay unfinished map at the top of the popularity list |
| 13:32.02 | Dogmai | theres no sheep jokes |
| 13:32.03 | Dogmai | :) |
| 13:32.09 | Dogmai | haha |
| 13:32.13 | Dogmai | nexus wars? |
| 13:32.19 | Zarafu | no, Golem Wars 6 |
| 13:32.20 | Dogmai | we have an old version of nexus wars |
| 13:32.24 | Dogmai | oh |
| 13:32.26 | Dogmai | i remember that |
| 13:32.29 | Dogmai | from like 2003 |
| 13:32.32 | Dogmai | in wc3 |
| 13:32.50 | Zarafu | it's so lame that in this version, the team settings are locked, and they are set to 4v2 |
| 13:33.01 | Dogmai | lawl |
| 13:33.06 | Dogmai | and people still play it |
| 13:33.07 | Zarafu | it seriously looks like a map that someone made in 2 hours |
| 13:33.12 | Dogmai | blame the people not the map |
| 13:33.17 | Dogmai | if they didnt play it it wouldnt be popular |
| 13:33.22 | Zarafu | well I love Golem Wars |
| 13:33.26 | Zarafu | people join expecting it to be awesome |
| 13:33.28 | Dogmai | so make a better one mate |
| 13:33.29 | Dogmai | :P |
| 13:33.30 | Zarafu | and then they get let down |
| 13:33.36 | Zarafu | I'm working on Smash TV ;) |
| 13:33.39 | Dogmai | name it "Better Golem Wars 7" |
| 13:33.43 | Dogmai | ha |
| 13:33.50 | Zarafu | haha awesome name |
| 13:34.00 | Ashamed | Zarafu i started a lil smash tv map |
| 13:34.03 | Zarafu | "Golem Wars (Non-suck version)" |
| 13:34.08 | Ashamed | but i only got the terrian done |
| 13:34.18 | Zarafu | what kind of terrain did you do? |
| 13:34.27 | Ashamed | It liked it |
| 13:34.31 | Ashamed | i just made a bunch of rooms |
| 13:34.32 | Zarafu | mind if I see it? |
| 13:34.37 | Ashamed | but then made it so they can all expand onto it |
| 13:34.42 | Ashamed | and put depots for the doors |
| 13:34.48 | Zarafu | lol depots |
| 13:34.51 | Zarafu | I used real doors |
| 13:34.58 | Ashamed | so at first its just a small area but as you get farther it gets bigger and bigger |
| 13:34.59 | Zarafu | well, gates rather |
| 13:35.02 | Ashamed | until its the entire map |
| 13:35.07 | Ashamed | ... The depots fit nice in my map |
| 13:35.13 | Zarafu | haha |
| 13:35.24 | Ashamed | what is your email? |
| 13:35.29 | Ashamed | i didn't get far on it at all lol |
| 13:35.29 | Zarafu | fqureshi.zaraf@gmail.com |
| 13:35.35 | Ashamed | i just did the basic terrian |
| 13:35.39 | Zarafu | are you working on anything now? |
| 13:35.47 | Ashamed | i wouldn't say working |
| 13:35.53 | Zarafu | are you on NA bnet? |
| 13:35.54 | Ashamed | but i have like 6 concepts that i have working |
| 13:35.56 | Ashamed | but that is yet |
| 13:35.59 | Ashamed | it* |
| 13:36.04 | Ashamed | I am still learning |
| 13:36.08 | Clord | Dogmai... that is like when I named my card game to be "THE Card Game" instead "The Card Game" ;) |
| 13:36.12 | Ashamed | so i get something and then go ok now let me learn something else |
| 13:36.22 | Ashamed | I am not on battle net yet lol |
| 13:36.31 | Ashamed | i just use my friends account for editor |
| 13:36.31 | Ashamed | >< |
| 13:36.32 | Clord | bottle.net =) |
| 13:36.48 | Zarafu | so can you come on bnet with your friend's account? |
| 13:37.02 | Ashamed | when he is not on lol |
| 13:37.10 | Zarafu | is he on NA? |
| 13:37.12 | Arthas- | clord, you just made me lose the game |
| 13:37.14 | Arthas- | gz! |
| 13:37.58 | Ashamed | yes |
| 13:38.42 | Clord | I did? |
| 13:38.43 | Clord | XD |
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| 13:39.29 | Eiviyn | Heya. Anyone have a solution to this?; http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/9198-blank-inventory-faces/ |
| 13:41.57 | Ashamed | Zarafu sent the maps.. i sent my golems too lol |
| 13:42.02 | Ashamed | since you said you were doing that |
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| 13:42.10 | Otixa | I scraped my face off >:| |
| 13:42.26 | Otixa | Also, fu Eiviyn |
| 13:42.40 | Otixa | You only ever talk on here when you need help |
| 13:42.43 | Ashamed | i also made the smash in beta.. i dunno if ther eis better doors now lol |
| 13:43.01 | Eiviyn | Yeah, and I always end up figuring it out myself anyway :(( |
| 13:43.28 | Otixa | smacks Eiviyn |
| 13:43.38 | Eiviyn | But this time, help! |
| 13:43.59 | Otixa | Why? You never help the people here ;P |
| 13:45.17 | Eiviyn | Posted quite a lot of help on irc even, also check my post history on the forums |
| 13:45.34 | Otixa | Forums?! |
| 13:45.35 | Otixa | THIS |
| 13:45.36 | Otixa | IS |
| 13:45.40 | Otixa | IRC |
| 13:45.46 | Otixa | :D |
| 13:46.16 | Zarafu | Ashamed, your terrain is a lot more interesting than mine lol |
| 13:46.34 | Zarafu | mine is just the same bland room over and over again in a 5 x 5 giant square |
| 13:46.54 | Tofu | note to self. do not remove the "build in progress" ability from a structure |
| 13:47.08 | Zarafu | but I've compensated for that by providing randomly generated destructibles in each room to provide strategic uses |
| 13:47.53 | rulssi | hey is it possible to have the debug window in multiplayer? |
| 13:48.00 | rulssi | to show variables etc |
| 13:48.52 | GeEom | just throw out your variable displays either periodicly or on type request via a specific interface area... |
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| 13:49.24 | Otixa | kicks SweetZombieJesus |
| 13:49.30 | SweetZombieJesus | :< |
| 13:49.38 | Otixa | :> |
| 13:49.41 | Otixa | hai2u |
| 13:50.26 | GeEom | Help: I've set some ragion variables up to use in a unit enters region trigger, but they are not listed under the variables section of the region options... what do I do?? |
| 13:50.55 | SweetZombieJesus | now why is there ventrilo and mumble now |
| 13:50.59 | SweetZombieJesus | mumble > vent =// |
| 13:51.24 | Otixa | fu |
| 13:51.26 | Otixa | get on vent |
| 13:51.32 | SweetZombieJesus | naw i shy! |
| 13:51.40 | SweetZombieJesus | also i have to download |
| 13:51.45 | Otixa | Get the fuck in there, homo >:[ |
| 13:51.48 | SweetZombieJesus | oO |
| 13:51.56 | Otixa | That's an order |
| 13:52.05 | Otixa | swings scythe |
| 13:52.37 | SweetZombieJesus | you just lobbed my head off |
| 13:52.42 | SweetZombieJesus | that wont make wearing a mic any easier |
| 13:52.54 | Otixa | ;p |
| 13:53.07 | SweetZombieJesus | i have to start on my map =/ |
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| 13:53.15 | SweetZombieJesus | but the start is always the annoynig part |
| 13:53.40 | Otixa | Don't start then |
| 13:53.43 | Otixa | Just end :D |
| 13:53.46 | GeEom | please anyone? |
| 13:53.47 | SweetZombieJesus | =/ |
| 13:54.02 | Otixa | GeEom, you couldn't please anyone |
| 13:54.09 | Otixa | Unless you had cake |
| 13:54.22 | GeEom | guess i had cake with your mum last night then |
| 13:54.24 | SweetZombieJesus | ill take 5 mins alone with him |
| 13:54.29 | Tofu | Geom |
| 13:54.34 | GeEom | yup |
| 13:54.35 | Tofu | areas are not variables |
| 13:54.54 | GeEom | No I have defined region variables. |
| 13:54.58 | GeEom | so they are... |
| 13:55.02 | Tofu | variables can change |
| 13:55.07 | Tofu | regions cannot |
| 13:55.13 | GeEom | yes but regardless they are not listed |
| 13:55.16 | Tofu | regions are values |
| 13:55.22 | Tofu | so click the value button |
| 13:55.23 | GeEom | ok |
| 13:55.30 | GeEom | i want to select variables (that are regions) |
| 13:55.36 | GeEom | but those variables are not listed |
| 13:56.03 | GeEom | because the regions are trigger generated and asigned to the vraibales OTF |
| 13:56.55 | Pierrot | Yeah my Super gosu AoE stun spell works !! (Stun the unit in the center for 6 seconds or give him +75% speed if the unit is in the outer edge of the aoe) |
| 13:57.14 | GeEom | Tofu? |
| 13:57.37 | Tofu | I have never put a region in a variable |
| 13:57.44 | Tofu | you are on your own |
| 13:57.48 | GeEom | meh :( |
| 13:58.04 | GeEom | i think is an error, ima reload |
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| 13:58.31 | GeEom | I can use the variable regions in actions, but not events |
| 13:59.02 | SweetZombieJesus | i had the same thing 2 days ago |
| 13:59.07 | SweetZombieJesus | the vars werent in there |
| 13:59.16 | SweetZombieJesus | so i just made my own regions from circles at points |
| 13:59.49 | Otixa | points at SweetZombieJesus |
| 13:59.57 | GeEom | ^^ work around (stupid but) Im doing : |
| 14:00.00 | Otixa | draws circles on SweetZombieJesus' forehead |
| 14:00.11 | GeEom | make region from point, centre of region (var) 1 |
| 14:00.13 | SweetZombieJesus | Otixa you are clearly very bored |
| 14:00.20 | Otixa | yeh :/ |
| 14:00.22 | GeEom | and yet marginaly awesome. |
| 14:00.33 | niemaimprezy | How to get the xyz of camera, not its target? |
| 14:00.39 | SweetZombieJesus | you dont |
| 14:00.44 | GeEom | ^^ |
| 14:00.46 | SweetZombieJesus | until Otixa makes camera library |
| 14:00.53 | Otixa | Ohshi- |
| 14:00.55 | Otixa | hides |
| 14:00.56 | GeEom | rofl |
| 14:01.09 | niemaimprezy | Too bad |
| 14:01.22 | Otixa | well |
| 14:01.28 | SweetZombieJesus | well nothing |
| 14:01.29 | Otixa | afaik, you can get the x,y |
| 14:01.30 | SweetZombieJesus | SLACK |
| 14:01.34 | Otixa | and z is just the height |
| 14:01.37 | Otixa | so meh |
| 14:01.43 | niemaimprezy | How do I do that:) ? |
| 14:01.46 | SweetZombieJesus | you cant get the xy of the eye position |
| 14:01.57 | Otixa | Pretty sure you can <_< |
| 14:02.01 | SweetZombieJesus | nope |
| 14:02.05 | Otixa | lemme check |
| 14:03.20 | Otixa | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/camera-target-of-player/ |
| 14:03.22 | Otixa | k |
| 14:04.54 | niemaimprezy | Well, I guess you can do some math and figure the position from angle, distance etc. |
| 14:05.09 | Otixa | just use that ^ |
| 14:05.10 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 14:05.14 | Otixa | it returns a point |
| 14:05.18 | Otixa | what more do you need? |
| 14:05.20 | niemaimprezy | That's a target. |
| 14:05.26 | niemaimprezy | Not the eye position. |
| 14:05.35 | Otixa | mmh |
| 14:05.41 | Otixa | Well |
| 14:05.49 | Otixa | ponders |
| 14:06.15 | Otixa | arccos angle something something... |
| 14:06.20 | Otixa | forgot <_< |
| 14:06.23 | niemaimprezy | :) |
| 14:07.06 | rulssi | http://pastebin.com/YQkNVBbY why does this turn all PlayerActives to false? |
| 14:07.25 | rulssi | it does the then part |
| 14:07.30 | rulssi | but it also runs the "else" paprt |
| 14:07.32 | rulssi | part* |
| 14:08.36 | SweetZombieJesus | ew |
| 14:08.38 | Otixa | bah |
| 14:08.39 | SweetZombieJesus | eww |
| 14:08.41 | SweetZombieJesus | ew code |
| 14:08.41 | Otixa | niemaimprezy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_theorem |
| 14:08.44 | Otixa | Somewhere in there |
| 14:08.54 | Otixa | :P |
| 14:09.04 | SweetZombieJesus | thats so unnessairely bloated rulssi |
| 14:09.23 | rulssi | ye ye i know i could run "for each integer argharghargblargh" things everywhere |
| 14:09.32 | SweetZombieJesus | just dont do ifs |
| 14:09.32 | pinzu | uuhh, I feel my map needs more structure |
| 14:09.41 | pinzu | how would I go about organizing my idaes? |
| 14:09.49 | SweetZombieJesus | write them down? |
| 14:10.37 | Otixa | Fuck |
| 14:10.47 | Otixa | I fucking hate summer break |
| 14:10.54 | Otixa | I get to deal with my parents |
| 14:11.03 | Pierrot | pinzu : draw chart !! |
| 14:11.11 | Otixa | And my mom just spent like 15min telling me what I can cook for myself over the phone |
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| 14:11.19 | Pierrot | pinzu : writte a standard game play |
| 14:11.25 | pinzu | lol, and how would one go about level design scaling :s |
| 14:11.32 | Otixa | And now my forehead hurts because I punched myself to stop myself from yelling at her ¬_¬ |
| 14:11.41 | Otixa | fuck |
| 14:12.08 | Tofu | emokitten |
| 14:12.31 | Otixa | punches Tofu |
| 14:12.33 | Wartex | what is this!? we can't have different objectives for different players? |
| 14:12.49 | Wartex | oh nvm xD |
| 14:12.53 | Otixa | Back to failmath ;/ |
| 14:13.05 | SweetZombieJesus | math is fun |
| 14:13.18 | rulssi | What value does "Player Group - Pick each player in (active players) and do (actions) does return? |
| 14:13.37 | SweetZombieJesus | picked player |
| 14:13.43 | Tofu | asking again: Does anyone know how I can make a unit occlude and thus create fogowar behind it? |
| 14:13.51 | pinzu | I need to make a forumla and a graph, for level scaling ;o |
| 14:14.54 | pinzu | you mean, so you can omly see infront of the unit+ |
| 14:15.08 | Tofu | so the unit blocks line of sight |
| 14:15.16 | pinzu | you could fake it I guess |
| 14:15.43 | Tofu | how so? |
| 14:16.07 | pinzu | perhaps using the revealer |
| 14:16.16 | pinzu | I don't know exacly what you want to acomplish |
| 14:16.25 | Tofu | I need a tree that blocks line of sight |
| 14:16.41 | Tofu | theres an option to make it doodad/blocklos |
| 14:16.46 | Tofu | but it seems to have no effect |
| 14:17.27 | pinzu | perhaps the block vision you selected is to small, Im not a data editor guy |
| 14:17.45 | pinzu | but I think I've seen a doodad actually blocking line of sight |
| 14:17.51 | Tofu | so have I |
| 14:18.00 | Pierrot | How can i make a unit to be selctable ?? i made a morph unit but if i select an other unit after the morphing i can't reselect the first unit |
| 14:18.05 | Tofu | the issue is, this isnt really a doodad |
| 14:18.12 | Tofu | its a unit |
| 14:18.13 | Otixa | ooh |
| 14:18.19 | Otixa | niemaimprezy, I think I got it |
| 14:18.29 | niemaimprezy | Otixa: ? |
| 14:18.37 | azala | @pierrot it's a unit property |
| 14:18.41 | Pierrot | is there a sound previwer like the model previewer |
| 14:18.57 | azala | like "set unit state" trigger can modify it |
| 14:18.57 | Otixa | niemaimprezy, the camera origin calculation, but it doesn't account for pan :P |
| 14:18.58 | rulssi | SweetZombieJesus: http://pastebin.com/T9KKJgts is this better? |
| 14:19.15 | SweetZombieJesus | much |
| 14:19.18 | Pierrot | azala : Hmm i think it is in the actor as i duplicated a unit and just changed its actor what do you think ? |
| 14:19.25 | Otixa | scribbles more |
| 14:19.35 | pinzu | same |
| 14:19.59 | pinzu | there should be a general guide; step by step on making a map ;d |
| 14:20.02 | azala | interesting, ive never worked with changing actors |
| 14:20.26 | azala | can you reselect it if you dont morph? |
| 14:20.26 | niemaimprezy | Otixa: with all the angles and all :) ? |
| 14:20.27 | pinzu | step by step how to make a map I suppose it should be called.. |
| 14:20.30 | Pierrot | azala : i think it might be linked to the actor height |
| 14:20.47 | Pierrot | azala : the selecter height is under the ground level |
| 14:20.53 | azala | ic |
| 14:21.11 | Pierrot | but if i put the unit in a group using ctrl + 1 i can reselect it |
| 14:21.13 | Otixa | niemaimprezy, yeh, but it doesn't account for camera pan... yet |
| 14:22.04 | Huesy | C Tooltiip Styles, so many >.< (http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/9176-resource-data-actors-ui-highlight-tooltip/#w-c) |
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| 14:26.01 | Otixa | roars |
| 14:27.28 | jorgenpt | cowers |
| 14:28.02 | Demonette | -.- |
| 14:28.06 | Demonette | the freaks are back ^^ |
| 14:33.01 | Phaos | of course they are |
| 14:33.04 | Phaos | they never left |
| 14:33.57 | Phaos | him these apply force abilities are proving to be trickier than I first anticipated. |
| 14:34.27 | Phaos | the ability is intended to carve a path through swaths of zombies for the players to move through |
| 14:34.38 | Phaos | however. while it does chuck them far enough |
| 14:34.47 | Phaos | they move no further if they bump into another zombie |
| 14:34.57 | Phaos | so really they don't move out of the way. just backwards |
| 14:34.59 | Phaos | bah! |
| 14:35.02 | Phaos | bah I say |
| 14:35.11 | niemaimprezy | Does anyone know something about sound settings for sound objects. I try to change the Volume Rolloff. It doesn't seem to be working right. |
| 14:36.37 | niemaimprezy | Has anyone worked with those before? |
| 14:36.41 | Tofu | anyone got any experience with the footprints? |
| 14:36.52 | Cryosis | footprints are confusing |
| 14:36.56 | Tofu | I need to somehow make a 1x1 path 2x2 occlude |
| 14:37.03 | Tofu | agreed, confusing |
| 14:37.29 | Cryosis | I don't think footprints can be used for occlusion |
| 14:37.41 | Tofu | they are the only way to get occlusion that I can find |
| 14:37.57 | Tofu | the los blocking footprints are the only occlusion options availiable |
| 14:38.11 | Cryosis | oh |
| 14:38.25 | Cryosis | I didn't know actors used those for occlusion |
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| 14:41.47 | Tofu | fixxed it! |
| 14:41.54 | Tofu | I never want to do a footprint again |
| 14:41.55 | Huesy | Moving back to PC after this Mac dies >.< |
| 14:42.06 | jorgenpt | Huesy: Hmm. You need to show vjustify and hjustify too :( |
| 14:42.49 | Cryosis | Huesy: sure you don't want... an IPAD!!! |
| 14:42.52 | Huesy | That'll be later :) |
| 14:43.00 | Huesy | I'm an Android fan |
| 14:43.01 | Cryosis | Huesy: cause you can play angry birds on it! |
| 14:43.18 | Cryosis | and.. surf the web... and..... ughh......... read books? |
| 14:43.21 | Huesy | Mac: Think Different. <- Ha |
| 14:43.40 | jorgenpt | Ohmigod I have 13 views. |
| 14:44.37 | Huesy | hmmm...I might release this item/object system library once it's finished |
| 14:44.56 | jorgenpt | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPgsDTpn3So (http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/shared-vendor/) |
| 14:45.00 | jorgenpt | Feedback appreciated! :) |
| 14:45.07 | Phaos | Thinking Different does not automaticly = better |
| 14:45.28 | jorgenpt | On the note of a Mac. :-p |
| 14:45.32 | jorgenpt | (That video was made on a Mac) |
| 14:46.23 | Phaos | ewww |
| 14:46.36 | Huesy | I love American accents :D |
| 14:47.12 | Phaos | don't you get enough of the american accent from TV :P ? |
| 14:47.20 | Tofu | does anyone remember what the respawn time was for Wc3 trees? |
| 14:47.31 | Phaos | respawn time ? |
| 14:47.35 | Phaos | they didn't respawn |
| 14:47.39 | Phaos | when dead they stay dead |
| 14:47.43 | Huesy | The only TV I get to watch is when the g/f watches Home and Away |
| 14:47.47 | Tofu | Im pretty sure they regrew |
| 14:47.56 | Tofu | around the living trees |
| 14:48.00 | jorgenpt | Huesy: Are you talking about my voice? |
| 14:48.07 | Huesy | Indeed |
| 14:48.08 | Phaos | no O.o |
| 14:48.10 | jorgenpt | As in the accent an American has? |
| 14:48.30 | Huesy | I believe so |
| 14:48.31 | jorgenpt | That's... hilarious. I'm bored and raised in Norway. I came here a year ago. :-p |
| 14:48.37 | Huesy | wow |
| 14:48.40 | Phaos | find me proof of regrowing trees and I will beleive. but I truly remember them staying cut down |
| 14:48.46 | Huesy | Couldn't pick that from your voice |
| 14:48.52 | Huesy | You've assimilated well |
| 14:49.07 | jorgenpt | I think I was that way before I went to the US. |
| 14:49.20 | jorgenpt | I was worried the voice volume on the video was a bit low - parts seem to be a bit hard to hear. |
| 14:49.27 | Phaos | *unmutes jorgens video* he sounds very european :P |
| 14:49.29 | Huesy | Must be the way you were taught English |
| 14:49.34 | jorgenpt | Anyone have a problem with that? :-p |
| 14:49.45 | jorgenpt | Phaos: Hah ;-) |
| 14:49.54 | Phaos | it is a leeetle quiet |
| 14:50.08 | Huesy | It's refreshing, so many tutorial videos out there that just put you to sleep |
| 14:50.08 | jorgenpt | I think I just have to speak louder, I don't think I can bump the recording volume any more. |
| 14:50.14 | Phaos | I mean. I have to put effort into hearing what your saying |
| 14:50.20 | Phaos | which means your quiet :P |
| 14:50.24 | jorgenpt | Hehe |
| 14:50.46 | jorgenpt | Huesy: You found it different from other videos? |
| 14:50.56 | jorgenpt | It's a sad tutorial, since the product isn't released yet :-p |
| 14:51.36 | jorgenpt | But I was hoping to get some more feedback on it :) |
| 14:52.10 | Huesy | It's fine from my perspective |
| 14:52.52 | Phaos | I critique is that it's not strictly an upgrade |
| 14:52.57 | Phaos | it's a small thing |
| 14:53.01 | Phaos | but it does bug me |
| 14:53.08 | Phaos | the units stat text remains white |
| 14:53.18 | Phaos | while it should be the "modified" yellow |
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| 14:53.50 | jorgenpt | Phaos: Hm? |
| 14:54.04 | jorgenpt | Phaos: Uh, I'm using "Add Upgrade Level To Player" with the actual upgrade. |
| 14:54.12 | Phaos | O.o |
| 14:54.14 | jorgenpt | Phaos: So as far as I know it should be /identical/ to buying it at hte armory. |
| 14:54.18 | jorgenpt | the |
| 14:54.23 | Phaos | I guess the mac version does not "yellowify" the stat text ? |
| 14:54.26 | Otixa | stabs SweetZombieJesus |
| 14:54.28 | Otixa | Wake up |
| 14:54.30 | Otixa | now |
| 14:54.32 | Otixa | >:[ |
| 14:54.32 | SweetZombieJesus | whaaat |
| 14:54.36 | SweetZombieJesus | im trying to think |
| 14:54.40 | Otixa | How do I get the camera angle? ;/ |
| 14:54.41 | SweetZombieJesus | making minigames ainteasy |
| 14:54.48 | Otixa | Since like |
| 14:54.50 | jorgenpt | Phaos: Let me test with an armory |
| 14:54.53 | SweetZombieJesus | which angle |
| 14:54.56 | SweetZombieJesus | pitch or yaw? |
| 14:54.56 | Otixa | I need to get the current angle of the camera |
| 14:55.05 | Otixa | Pitch, I guess |
| 14:55.11 | jorgenpt | SweetZombieJesus: You got 99 problems but a camera aint one. |
| 14:55.12 | SweetZombieJesus | its angle of attack i think |
| 14:55.13 | SweetZombieJesus | in triggers |
| 14:55.14 | Otixa | But it doesn't seem to give the right info |
| 14:55.20 | Otixa | Yeh, I saw |
| 14:55.27 | Otixa | But it only gives the same value |
| 14:55.27 | SweetZombieJesus | so wuuuut |
| 14:55.31 | SweetZombieJesus | idunn |
| 14:55.33 | Otixa | Like, if I coom in |
| 14:55.36 | Otixa | zoom* |
| 14:55.37 | SweetZombieJesus | i told you i hate cameras |
| 14:55.40 | Otixa | It still gives the same value |
| 14:55.42 | Otixa | wtf. |
| 14:55.43 | SweetZombieJesus | zoom is messed up |
| 14:55.53 | SweetZombieJesus | my hero selection camera work was 100% trial and error |
| 14:56.03 | Otixa | Well, I can't calulate target etc if I don't have the fucking angle >:[ |
| 14:56.10 | SweetZombieJesus | thats the whole point |
| 14:56.16 | SweetZombieJesus | why the lib is needed |
| 14:56.27 | SweetZombieJesus | you need to find some other way to get that |
| 14:56.32 | Otixa | Well, I need to be able to get the angle to make the lib >:[ |
| 14:56.40 | SweetZombieJesus | find a way! |
| 14:56.45 | Otixa | groans |
| 14:56.58 | Otixa | I suppose if I can set the angle of attack(pitch) |
| 14:57.05 | Otixa | Then I can just hardcode it |
| 14:57.10 | Otixa | So it sets to something in the start |
| 14:57.19 | Otixa | And then calculates based on the initial value |
| 14:57.25 | Otixa | But that's way too fucking hacky |
| 14:58.10 | SweetZombieJesus | thats why we need that lib |
| 14:58.11 | SweetZombieJesus | gogo |
| 14:58.37 | SweetZombieJesus | crappy editors need hacky solutions |
| 14:59.19 | Otixa | ;/ |
| 15:00.03 | Otixa | also, zooming the camera doesn't register as a camera movement event |
| 15:00.03 | Otixa | wtf. |
| 15:00.21 | jorgenpt | Phaos: Testing now |
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| 15:00.55 | Otixa | Ohh, I see |
| 15:00.55 | jorgenpt | Phaos: Wait, do you mean the text that says Armor: 3 (e.g.) |
| 15:00.56 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 15:01.07 | Otixa | CameraInfoGetValue is fucked |
| 15:01.27 | Huesy | Can I get an opinion on this? For my item library I'm using an array of item records (Type, Name, Buy Amount, Sell Amount), but I also need to attach an entry to the respective (item) unit on the map. To do so I'm storing the array index in the unit's custom value 1. Is this the best way to go about it? |
| 15:01.29 | jorgenpt | Phaos: http://o7.no/987046/1j.png |
| 15:01.35 | jorgenpt | Phaos: That's from the library. |
| 15:02.02 | SweetZombieJesus | sounds fine Huesy |
| 15:02.35 | jorgenpt | Phaos: http://o7.no/987046/1k.png |
| 15:02.38 | jorgenpt | Phaos: That's from the armor |
| 15:02.41 | jorgenpt | Phaos: +y |
| 15:02.43 | depthsofchaos | anyone got an idea how to make a unit constantly move but still allow proper user control?:o and no lags :o |
| 15:03.09 | jorgenpt | depthsofchaos: What do you mean? |
| 15:03.27 | Huesy | SweetZombieJesus: Great :) Can now concentrate on moving forward! |
| 15:03.30 | depthsofchaos | what i said, for exaomple a car that cant stop |
| 15:03.44 | jorgenpt | Huesy: Also, I meant feedback on the project mostly, the video is second priority. |
| 15:03.54 | jorgenpt | Eiviyn: Define proper user control? |
| 15:04.01 | Pierrot | ok i made a beam attack but the beam actor don't destroy |
| 15:04.02 | jorgenpt | s/Eiviyn/depthsofchaos/ |
| 15:04.07 | Pierrot | what am i missing ? |
| 15:04.17 | Phaos | oh it is coloring them. I guess the quality of the YT video is just desaturating the color :S |
| 15:04.26 | jorgenpt | Phaos: Try HD :-) |
| 15:04.47 | Phaos | I'm running out of Bandwidth for the month xD |
| 15:04.55 | depthsofchaos | proper user control = not interrupted by issue move order |
| 15:05.07 | depthsofchaos | you issue a turn and it still keeps contsanly moving after |
| 15:05.10 | Tofu | depthsofchaos I assume you would need to make a custom mover |
| 15:05.16 | Huesy | jorgenpt: I think the project will turn out to be very useful. The vendor can be accessed by players of opposing teams, right? |
| 15:05.23 | jorgenpt | Huesy: Ye |
| 15:05.42 | Phaos | yep then it will def be a useful vendor library |
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| 15:05.48 | vxcriss | ello everyone |
| 15:05.51 | Huesy | jorgenpt: That's great! |
| 15:06.05 | depthsofchaos | what kind of mover :o |
| 15:06.29 | jorgenpt | Is there any way to make an ability that functions like Move? |
| 15:06.34 | Tofu | the one for the yamato cannon is a straight line mover |
| 15:06.46 | Tofu | you could prolly mod it to follow the mouse |
| 15:06.48 | Tofu | etc |
| 15:06.52 | jorgenpt | depthsofchaos: Triggers, Unit is Idle - give a new order? |
| 15:07.12 | Tofu | laggy. |
| 15:07.29 | Phaos | it's only laggy if you do it alot |
| 15:07.30 | jorgenpt | Not if you move far enough at a time :) |
| 15:07.33 | depthsofchaos | idle is not good cause that wont be continous |
| 15:07.39 | Phaos | if your doing it every 30 seconds or so it will be fine |
| 15:07.41 | jorgenpt | I made a copy of Move and put it into the Abilities of a Unit, but it wouldn't actually /move/ the unit. |
| 15:08.06 | Tofu | base move doest move unless you tell it to tho |
| 15:08.13 | Tofu | thats why I suggested the yamato mover |
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| 15:08.23 | Otixa | GOT THE BASTARD >=] |
| 15:08.23 | Phaos | the move ability actually has a bunch of sub abilities. and unless you set them it won't actually do anything |
| 15:08.24 | depthsofchaos | yamato mover is a weapon mover |
| 15:08.26 | Otixa | MUHAHAAHAHA |
| 15:08.33 | depthsofchaos | a projectile mover cant work for units |
| 15:08.34 | Otixa | CameraGetPitch(int player) |
| 15:08.38 | Otixa | fuck you Blizz! |
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| 15:09.03 | jorgenpt | Phaos: It had all the patrol things etc there |
| 15:09.12 | Tofu | surely a projectile is pretty similar to what you need to do tho |
| 15:09.20 | Tofu | if the unit doesnt ever stop |
| 15:09.46 | Tofu | anyways, if it doesnt work it doesnt work. I cant test it :) |
| 15:10.14 | vxcriss | so erhm.... anyone has any idea why my editor is displaying really shitty graphics (lookslike 256 colors) |
| 15:10.20 | vxcriss | I checked everything |
| 15:10.25 | vxcriss | the video settings are all high |
| 15:10.40 | Huesy | Reset? |
| 15:10.47 | vxcriss | yep, did defaults too |
| 15:10.49 | vxcriss | can't fix it |
| 15:11.00 | Bluerobin427 | did you try restarting the editor/computer? |
| 15:11.25 | jorgenpt | vxcriss: Check properties on the shortcut, there're like compatability modes. |
| 15:11.28 | jorgenpt | For Windows |
| 15:11.34 | vxcriss | it used to look good, but then I published my map and they asked me to switch to small size optimization, and since I did that, everything look just shitty, I tried switching back to the default but no effect |
| 15:11.37 | jorgenpt | One of them's like 256 colors? |
| 15:11.44 | vxcriss | sec let me try that |
| 15:11.51 | vxcriss | I tried restarting, didn't work |
| 15:11.57 | Bluerobin427 | ah hmm |
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| 15:12.23 | vxcriss | nah, compatibility on shortcut is fine... |
| 15:12.24 | Huesy | depthsofchaos: Just catching up :P So the car is moving forward, you click a point on the map and the car moves there, and once it reaches that point it continues on? |
| 15:12.25 | vxcriss | goddamit |
| 15:12.42 | depthsofchaos | yep and not using triggers |
| 15:12.44 | vxcriss | I can't design anything cool with this shitty graphics it is busting my talent nerve |
| 15:12.47 | depthsofchaos | cause that would lag |
| 15:12.58 | Huesy | How would that lag? |
| 15:13.08 | SweetZombieJesus | only poorly made triggers lag |
| 15:13.09 | depthsofchaos | cause there can be 20+ cars / player |
| 15:13.16 | depthsofchaos | each move order is tracked = lag |
| 15:13.51 | Huesy | Minimise the orders. Let me look into it |
| 15:14.26 | depthsofchaos | i could do it with triggers but cant define a custom move ability either |
| 15:14.34 | depthsofchaos | i simply duplicated move and renamed it |
| 15:14.37 | depthsofchaos | not working oddly |
| 15:14.48 | Pierrot | do 4 ability wiht hotkeys set to the numpad |
| 15:15.01 | Pierrot | each ability make the unit face a angle |
| 15:15.20 | AntiHero | hey chad is your sametime down > ? |
| 15:15.22 | depthsofchaos | for 20+ cars, they need mouse control |
| 15:15.37 | AntiHero | whats the whisper command |
| 15:15.39 | AntiHero | ? |
| 15:15.41 | vxcriss | look at this shit |
| 15:15.41 | vxcriss | http://uglybyte.com/uglyeditor.jpg |
| 15:15.44 | vxcriss | is this normal? |
| 15:15.49 | vxcriss | am I going nuts or what |
| 15:16.03 | Pierrot | hmm in fact 4 abilities one for speed+ one for speed - one for left one for right. the use persistant effect to make the car face an angle |
| 15:16.16 | SweetZombieJesus | doesnt look that strange |
| 15:16.26 | vxcriss | look at the light on the team start location |
| 15:16.31 | Huesy | depthsofchaos: Are you using "Move Unit Instantly" or "Issue Order move"? |
| 15:16.31 | vxcriss | totally wierd |
| 15:16.40 | SweetZombieJesus | eju? |
| 15:16.41 | SweetZombieJesus | why |
| 15:16.42 | SweetZombieJesus | * |
| 15:16.46 | depthsofchaos | move order, need mouse right click to work |
| 15:16.50 | vxcriss | it didn't look like this before |
| 15:17.02 | vxcriss | I'm running ultra video settings on everything |
| 15:17.26 | Huesy | I don't see why that would cause lag then in a trigger, unless the players are required to mash buttons |
| 15:17.43 | depthsofchaos | players have 200 apm |
| 15:17.51 | depthsofchaos | usually 70% is a move order |
| 15:18.08 | Huesy | yikes |
| 15:18.20 | SweetZombieJesus | who has 200 apm? O-o |
| 15:18.21 | depthsofchaos | i spam move everibody does |
| 15:18.22 | SweetZombieJesus | only koreans do |
| 15:18.33 | depthsofchaos | i do have 300 apm at times and im a noob |
| 15:18.54 | Otixa | SweetZombieJesus, I think I can pull this off :D |
| 15:19.03 | Otixa | It's gonna take some srs math and code tho ;/ |
| 15:19.06 | Huesy | Clicking more makes the unit go faster :P |
| 15:19.08 | SweetZombieJesus | good :P |
| 15:19.18 | Bluerobin427 | hahaha SweetZombieJesus your name makes sentences sound awesome |
| 15:19.33 | SweetZombieJesus | my mere presence makes this chat room awesome |
| 15:19.46 | jorgenpt | sticks a needle in SweetZombieJesus |
| 15:19.51 | jorgenpt | Someone needs to deflate you! |
| 15:19.53 | Otixa | SweetZombieJesus, thing is, setting the camera TARGET will be a bitch ;/ |
| 15:19.56 | SweetZombieJesus | :< |
| 15:19.57 | depthsofchaos | if only i could restrict the trigger to the move ability that only those cars have |
| 15:20.06 | depthsofchaos | but i cant make custom move ability |
| 15:20.08 | Otixa | Also |
| 15:20.14 | Otixa | You'll prolly need to code it |
| 15:20.24 | SweetZombieJesus | "just make functions |
| 15:20.26 | Otixa | Since I have no idea how one would create points from the GUI |
| 15:20.27 | SweetZombieJesus | to set eye position |
| 15:20.35 | Bluerobin427 | can't you just make a condition on the trigger that it only runs when the move ability is used by a car? |
| 15:20.44 | Bluerobin427 | I mean it's still checking that each time |
| 15:20.47 | Bluerobin427 | eh never mind |
| 15:20.50 | depthsofchaos | well the trigger will still pop and test the condition |
| 15:20.53 | jorgenpt | (How) can you change what the smart click does? |
| 15:21.07 | Otixa | Well, fuck Galaxy for nnow |
| 15:21.10 | Otixa | resumes slacking |
| 15:21.22 | SweetZombieJesus | dont give up |
| 15:21.29 | SweetZombieJesus | if you manage it, everyone will use it :o |
| 15:21.29 | Otixa | I'm not |
| 15:21.34 | depthsofchaos | 20 cars controlled at a time 4 players on the map thats 80 trigger pop up in a few miliseconds |
| 15:21.35 | Otixa | I just cba with it right now |
| 15:21.45 | Otixa | And I need to do more tests on paper |
| 15:21.46 | Bluerobin427 | I say try it with triggers and if it lags then change it |
| 15:21.49 | Bluerobin427 | at least you have it working |
| 15:22.39 | Huesy | ooooh...right, so one player is controlling 20 cars. (Sorry it's late and I'm slow, bad combination) |
| 15:23.09 | depthsofchaos | ye one player could make 20 cars but doesnt matter cause any other unit would pop the trigger with their move order |
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| 15:25.32 | Huesy | Cars in an array, player clicks, car move function, loop through car array and issue move orders. That would only send one click to the other players right? As the move actions are stored inside the map. |
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| 15:26.44 | jorgenpt | Huesy: I believe triggers are executed for all players, even if you don't issue orders? To prevent desynced states and such? |
| 15:26.49 | jorgenpt | Huesy: But I'm probably wrong. |
| 15:26.50 | depthsofchaos | well the cars can be individually controled, its supposed to be like a melee setup |
| 15:27.00 | jorgenpt | Huesy: (So that, say, a variable increment is done everywhere) |
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| 15:28.44 | sNap | I used the morph ability to change a tower into an other. How to select the new morphed tower in a trigger? |
| 15:29.01 | Huesy | My thought process is that a trigger/event is sent to all players. And all players already have the resulting actions clientside. Since the resulting actions are the same on all clients, they will see the same visual output |
| 15:29.29 | Huesy | (But I'm probably wrong) |
| 15:30.49 | Huesy | A "Move Player Instantly" action on the other hand needs to be sent to all players whenever called, as it's a one-time-only thing and has no further actions. |
| 15:31.15 | Huesy | Yeah I'm not making sense. I'll keep quiet. |
| 15:31.29 | Phaos | arg why can't the data editor modify push priority :( |
| 15:32.02 | depthsofchaos | cause we cant discriminate fat units |
| 15:32.43 | Phaos | well it can. but only on the unit. but I wanna give units that are "flying through the air" a really high push priority. so they knock their buddies out the way |
| 15:33.13 | naxxan | can someone help me |
| 15:33.19 | naxxan | i get an error when i try to play offline. |
| 15:33.25 | naxxan | hold on |
| 15:33.28 | Otixa | ok so... |
| 15:33.28 | naxxan | ima try it in 5 minutes |
| 15:33.30 | naxxan | ill ask again |
| 15:33.34 | Otixa | We have the camera pitch |
| 15:33.40 | Otixa | and the camera height |
| 15:33.53 | Otixa | hmm... |
| 15:34.25 | Otixa | So we get like |
| 15:34.37 | Otixa | The topmost angle of a right triangle |
| 15:34.40 | Otixa | And one side |
| 15:34.57 | Wartex | If I upload a private release I can still invite people to play, I hope? |
| 15:34.59 | Otixa | So the opposing angle is 90 - a1 |
| 15:35.24 | Otixa | so that's a2 then |
| 15:35.28 | Otixa | so... |
| 15:35.57 | Tofu | making a unit upgrade (which is particular to each individual unit) that costs minerals and has no relation to experience. What type of ability do I start with? |
| 15:35.59 | Huesy | Phaos: Have you played with Save Data Table Value (Unit)? I haven't myself, but maybe worth a shot |
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| 15:36.19 | Otixa | target distance from the camera would then be... a1 / sin(a1.toRadians()) |
| 15:36.21 | Otixa | rite? |
| 15:36.50 | Otixa | and the distance from the 2 points would be a1/tan(ai.toRadians()) |
| 15:36.56 | Bluerobin427 | hehe trig |
| 15:37.15 | Otixa | and based on that we then calculate the point of the camera |
| 15:37.26 | Otixa | since we can get a point for the camera target with natives |
| 15:37.36 | Otixa | thus, profit? :/ |
| 15:37.39 | vxcriss | can someone please take a screenshot of a blue region on a space platform map and post it? |
| 15:37.45 | vxcriss | I need to compare the colors with mine |
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| 15:38.49 | Wartex | Wait, if I upload my map as an alpha to bnet for testing, can I keep working on it and upload it again without losing another slot? |
| 15:39.37 | sNap | @Wartex, it's always the same map, just the revision changes. Therefore yes |
| 15:39.51 | Otixa | Right |
| 15:40.00 | Otixa | So let's say the camera distance is 6 |
| 15:40.03 | Wartex | sNap, does it have to be uploaded in locked or unlocked mode? |
| 15:40.08 | Otixa | And the pitch is 56 degrees |
| 15:40.21 | Otixa | so let's call the camera pitch a |
| 15:40.27 | Otixa | and the height will be A |
| 15:40.40 | Otixa | so a = 56 = 0.977 radians |
| 15:40.44 | Phaos | Thanks for the suggestion Huesy |
| 15:40.47 | mattavich-377 | Hey, would anyone know why my photoncannon is damaging itself when it fires? |
| 15:40.53 | sNap | @Wartex, it doesnt matter, I think. Just choose what u want. |
| 15:40.54 | mattavich-377 | is there a reason for it that i have messed up? |
| 15:40.58 | Otixa | thus b is 90 - 56 = 34deg = 0.593 radians |
| 15:41.04 | Otixa | rite? |
| 15:41.05 | AsaPhelps | check the damage effect or launch |
| 15:41.16 | mattavich-377 | i have but i dont know what im looking for |
| 15:41.22 | mattavich-377 | "kill ymself" isnt a field there :P |
| 15:41.26 | Wartex | okay, thanks |
| 15:41.27 | AsaPhelps | make sure you have the effect filtered to not be player |
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| 15:42.03 | Otixa | So the camera distance C will then be A / sin(a) |
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| 15:42.11 | mattavich-377 | search filters? |
| 15:42.17 | Otixa | so 6 / sin(0.977) |
| 15:42.52 | Otixa | so C = 7.239 |
| 15:42.54 | Phaos | arg! why is the distance of a push based on the units move speed >: | |
| 15:42.56 | Otixa | That doesn't seem right ¬_¬ |
| 15:42.59 | mattavich-377 | no doesnt seem to be search filters |
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| 15:43.06 | Otixa | wait, fail |
| 15:43.09 | Otixa | sin(b) |
| 15:43.21 | jorgenpt | Otixa: What's b? |
| 15:43.39 | Otixa | b is the angle on the bottom of the triangle |
| 15:43.43 | Otixa | opposing the camera pitch |
| 15:44.06 | Phaos | thats a right angled triangle >: | |
| 15:44.07 | Otixa | so distance from the camera to camera target will be 10.737 |
| 15:44.16 | Otixa | That sounds about right ;p |
| 15:44.19 | Otixa | Phaos, yes ;p |
| 15:44.25 | jorgenpt | Is 6 the distance to the ground? |
| 15:44.29 | Otixa | yup |
| 15:44.43 | Phaos | why are you trying to "find" a right angled triangle. you know what that is exclusivly :P |
| 15:45.03 | Clord | =) |
| 15:45.04 | Phaos | stop making things difficult for yourself xD |
| 15:45.07 | Otixa | Phaos, well, you can't get a point for the camera position in the editor |
| 15:45.17 | Otixa | You can get the camera target position |
| 15:45.21 | Otixa | height and pitch and yaw |
| 15:45.25 | Clord | THE Card Game Achievement.... "It is secret" ^^ |
| 15:45.37 | Phaos | well we know that one of the numbers is 90 right xD |
| 15:45.48 | Otixa | Yeh, makes stuff easier :D |
| 15:45.54 | AsaPhelps | check the launch effect in the actor matt |
| 15:46.03 | AsaPhelps | the actor is going to be a type of attack actor it has |
| 15:46.07 | Otixa | So yeh |
| 15:46.25 | AsaPhelps | go to launch query? and see if it launches a damage effect on itself |
| 15:46.30 | Phaos | Otixia your biggest problem is that this math isn't accounting for the level of the terrain |
| 15:46.40 | Otixa | Phaos, fuck you >:[ |
| 15:46.40 | Phaos | the target is at the end of a "infinite" vector |
| 15:46.58 | Otixa | I know it isn't :/ |
| 15:47.08 | Otixa | But you can't really get a terrain vector, can you? ;p |
| 15:47.20 | Phaos | yes you can! |
| 15:47.23 | Otixa | orly? ;o |
| 15:47.27 | Phaos | heres my fancy pants idea |
| 15:47.54 | vxcriss | hey it would be cool if someone would make a mod with a set of heroes and abilities and then we can all use that mod on our maps and do whatever with those heroes |
| 15:47.54 | Otixa | I wish I hadn't slept through geometry classes now <_< |
| 15:48.36 | Phaos | create a dummy that moves from the camera along it's vector till it collides with the terrain. then find the xyz of the dummy :P |
| 15:48.48 | Clord | >_> |
| 15:48.55 | Otixa | But what if the terrain isn't flat? ;p |
| 15:49.00 | Clord | you mean generic heroes like |
| 15:49.02 | Clord | Jim Raynor |
| 15:49.04 | Otixa | it won't collide unless there's a level change |
| 15:49.05 | Clord | and some fitting abilities |
| 15:49.06 | Clord | X |
| 15:49.07 | Clord | XD |
| 15:49.12 | Phaos | lies! |
| 15:49.17 | Phaos | it will collide with the pathing |
| 15:49.25 | Otixa | what pathing? ;p |
| 15:49.28 | Clord | classified: light, biological, drunkard |
| 15:49.32 | Phaos | normal unit pathing |
| 15:49.35 | Phaos | the dummy is a unit |
| 15:49.42 | Otixa | Yeah but liek |
| 15:49.44 | Otixa | ARGHHH |
| 15:49.48 | Phaos | no no |
| 15:49.50 | Otixa | YOU JUST CONFUSED ME EVEN MORE |
| 15:49.51 | Otixa | >:[ |
| 15:49.52 | Phaos | leeesten |
| 15:50.05 | Otixa | k :< |
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| 15:50.15 | Clord | leste? |
| 15:50.17 | Clord | XD |
| 15:50.30 | Phaos | you give the unit a move order from the camera along the x & y of the vector |
| 15:50.35 | sNap | I used the morph ability to change a tower into an other. Just ordered an unit to use it in a trigger. How to select the new morphed tower in a trigger? |
| 15:50.44 | Huesy | Otixa: What are you wanting to do? |
| 15:50.45 | Phaos | and you start it's position at the z height of the camera |
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| 15:50.55 | Otixa | Huesy, camera managment lib |
| 15:51.10 | Otixa | Phaos, ohhh, I see |
| 15:51.13 | Phaos | then every lets say 0.25 periodicly. you decrement and check that it's z is not the same |
| 15:51.33 | Phaos | if the z is the same as it's last z then you have found the terrains collision point |
| 15:51.45 | Otixa | That's pretty clever :D |
| 15:51.49 | Otixa | highfives Phaos |
| 15:52.08 | Phaos | receives highfive with palm |
| 15:52.12 | Akkernight | I'm watching a SC2 video and the guy says something like a "15 pool", he's zerg. Does anyone on here know what that means? |
| 15:52.14 | Otixa | It'd need 2 passes tho |
| 15:52.25 | Otixa | Since you still need to get the camera position :P |
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| 15:52.32 | Phaos | thats ok tho |
| 15:52.33 | Otixa | And THEN check for collision |
| 15:52.42 | Otixa | And recalculate based on that |
| 15:52.59 | Otixa | Now, here's when the shit hits the fan |
| 15:53.00 | Phaos | it's complex but it's not extactly intensive |
| 15:53.09 | Otixa | What if say... |
| 15:53.13 | Otixa | It's an FPS cam? :D |
| 15:53.19 | Otixa | We lose the shiny right angle |
| 15:53.34 | Phaos | there is always a right angle! |
| 15:53.50 | Otixa | ponders |
| 15:53.50 | Phaos | think about it :P |
| 15:53.58 | Otixa | Well, yeah |
| 15:54.02 | Otixa | I suppose that makes sense |
| 15:54.12 | Otixa | If you're looking up, the right angle is on the other side |
| 15:54.17 | Phaos | it's just where the camera is instead of on the ground |
| 15:54.30 | GeEom | means he builds 15 drones then a spawning pool |
| 15:54.38 | GeEom | akkernight |
| 15:54.39 | Otixa | so you just shift the whole Z axis up |
| 15:54.45 | Phaos | cha |
| 15:54.46 | GeEom | also means he is gonna get raped pretty hard |
| 15:54.50 | Akkernight | GeEom: ok, thanks |
| 15:55.00 | Otixa | ponders |
| 15:55.07 | Otixa | This is making my brain hurt >:| |
| 15:55.15 | Otixa | I'm supposed to be a designer! |
| 15:55.16 | AsaPhelps | stacks Otixa's brain |
| 15:55.18 | Akkernight | GeEom: he mentiones it as a mistake. But is it too many or too few? |
| 15:55.20 | AsaPhelps | stabs |
| 15:55.21 | Otixa | What the fuck guys?! |
| 15:55.23 | AsaPhelps | is what I would say normally |
| 15:55.27 | GeEom | too many |
| 15:55.27 | Phaos | in this scenario. the terrain collision point is directly below the camera instead of at it's target |
| 15:55.30 | Otixa | I like pixels and polygons >:[ |
| 15:55.37 | Otixa | Not trignometry and vectors |
| 15:55.54 | GeEom | six pool is v rapid zerglings, but hard to sustain, 12 pool is about max for 1v1 |
| 15:55.54 | Otixa | sobs |
| 15:56.21 | Phaos | because annoyingly, in FPS view the target is all the fucking way off in X,Y space somewhere |
| 15:56.21 | Otixa | Bah, I'll ponder moar later |
| 15:56.40 | Otixa | Phaos, yeh, the fun part starts when camera yaw gets involved |
| 15:56.53 | Akkernight | GeEom: I'm trying to learn some strategy as I suck badly and get pwned here at the school home D: Watching some guy called Psy |
| 15:56.56 | Otixa | actually |
| 15:56.58 | Otixa | notrly |
| 15:57.01 | Phaos | so you would have a very very very very shallow C |
| 15:57.04 | Otixa | point with polar offset |
| 15:57.07 | KelvCM | You click a behavior ability, the icon disappears while the behavior is active, whats a good way to show a countdown of how long the behavior will last? |
| 15:57.24 | Phaos | yaw can suck it. find the pitch first. the modify with the yaw |
| 15:57.24 | Otixa | 90 - Yaw = offset |
| 15:57.31 | GeEom | Akkernight: yeah we all getting owned recently, a lot of cheese going around :( |
| 15:57.34 | Otixa | point with polar offset from the camera target with yaw |
| 15:57.38 | Otixa | and you get the camera |
| 15:57.52 | Otixa | then just add the distance etc |
| 15:58.33 | Otixa | I remember having to do similar shit a few years back |
| 15:58.39 | Otixa | for my WoW soccer script :P |
| 15:58.44 | Otixa | Was unfun ._. |
| 15:59.27 | Otixa | Anyway |
| 15:59.30 | Otixa | Thanks Phaos ;D |
| 15:59.35 | Phaos | xD |
| 15:59.59 | Otixa | Also, fu SweetZombieJesus |
| 16:00.05 | SweetZombieJesus | whyso |
| 16:00.06 | Otixa | You dragged me into this shit >:[ |
| 16:00.12 | SweetZombieJesus | but think of the rewards |
| 16:00.16 | Phaos | if I remembered more of the math 102 I would be able to tell you how to find the intercept of the vector alot easier |
| 16:00.18 | Otixa | What rewards? :/ |
| 16:00.40 | SweetZombieJesus | people will love you |
| 16:00.45 | SweetZombieJesus | for fixing their awful camera |
| 16:00.45 | Otixa | D:< |
| 16:00.48 | Phaos | whatchu doing this for anyways Otixa? |
| 16:00.51 | RodOfNOD | a cookie? |
| 16:00.55 | Otixa | Phaos, camera lib |
| 16:01.01 | Phaos | awesome |
| 16:01.45 | Phaos | better dynamic cameras go go |
| 16:02.16 | Otixa | Will be kinda neat to be able to tween between 2 camera target positions :D |
| 16:02.27 | Otixa | and camera positions |
| 16:02.33 | Huesy | D, E and F tooltip styles done...that's enough for tonight methinks |
| 16:02.44 | SweetZombieJesus | ye and i can finally fix the last thing in my hero lib Otixa |
| 16:02.57 | Otixa | The disappearing chars? ;p |
| 16:03.03 | SweetZombieJesus | cause right now the eye is stuck at the center |
| 16:03.08 | SweetZombieJesus | and i pan camera to look at the right hero |
| 16:03.15 | SweetZombieJesus | but with a huge circle, the heroes are too far away |
| 16:03.25 | Otixa | And you want to have awesome camera animations? ;p |
| 16:03.25 | SweetZombieJesus | so there needs to be an inner track of camera positions |
| 16:03.35 | SweetZombieJesus | but i cant make that inner track |
| 16:03.36 | Phaos | what will be ever nicer Otixa is that you will be able to make rpg cameras play nice with walls and not blip through em :D |
| 16:03.41 | SweetZombieJesus | cause i cant pan the camera eye |
| 16:03.45 | Phaos | clip* |
| 16:03.55 | Otixa | Phaos, true that |
| 16:04.21 | Otixa | I'll need trace lines tho |
| 16:04.24 | Phaos | camera will be all like "ffffff I just hit a wall, no more X,Y for me!" |
| 16:04.31 | Otixa | :D |
| 16:04.34 | Phaos | the dummy unit is your trace line :P |
| 16:04.45 | Otixa | I guess <_< |
| 16:04.47 | Phaos | it's cheating. but it's awesome |
| 16:05.04 | Otixa | Will need to do it with code in the end tho |
| 16:05.15 | Otixa | Creating a dummy unit to use a lib is kinda unpro :P |
| 16:05.28 | Phaos | tracelines are good too. but fucked if I can be bothered looking up my old math for that :P |
| 16:05.38 | Otixa | ditto |
| 16:06.00 | Otixa | I think I used my textbooks for that one bbq anyway... <_< |
| 16:06.04 | Clord | my THE Card Game needs achievement ideas... only five implemented |
| 16:06.05 | Clord | =) |
| 16:06.18 | Otixa | Shush Clord, srs business now |
| 16:06.20 | Phaos | you will have to find where each plane along the vector intercepts and then calculate which plane intercepts first. |
| 16:06.34 | Phaos | the problem with that is. you can't refrence the planes them selves |
| 16:06.52 | Phaos | and doodads and units only have 1 point, their "origin" |
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| 16:07.04 | Otixa | Problem is that we don't have enough utility functions >:[ |
| 16:07.10 | Phaos | exactly |
| 16:07.19 | Tinman | hey Otixa just the human I wanted to talk with! |
| 16:07.27 | Otixa | What human? ;p |
| 16:07.31 | Otixa | hai Tinman |
| 16:07.31 | Phaos | the fact we can't simply refrence the intercept of the terrain is proof enough of that |
| 16:07.37 | Clord | Utixa... don't act like noob |
| 16:07.38 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:07.54 | Otixa | facepalms at Clord |
| 16:08.02 | Clord | lol |
| 16:08.05 | Clord | that's better |
| 16:08.11 | Otixa | Phaos, well, maybe if I get like a separate thread |
| 16:08.20 | Otixa | And make it as fast as possible |
| 16:08.25 | Tinman | Otixa: Lets talk in private, don't want to confuse the other humans |
| 16:08.29 | Otixa | I could try spawn a unit at an x,y location |
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| 16:08.43 | Otixa | and then get the Z location of the unit |
| 16:08.59 | Phaos | yep but heres the problem |
| 16:09.02 | Otixa | That would sorta work as a "clipping plane" :P |
| 16:09.07 | Otixa | Tinman, 1sec |
| 16:09.13 | Clord | Otixa... achievements are serious business.... kids love them like crack! |
| 16:09.14 | Phaos | you can't tell it to spawn at the x/y location until you find the z XD |
| 16:09.19 | Clord | it gives depth on map for them ;) |
| 16:09.31 | Otixa | Phaos, there a way to enable gravity or something? <_< |
| 16:09.35 | Phaos | because the vector will just run right the hell through anything in the way |
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| 16:09.40 | FahqueL | do aberrations have other attacks or spells other than melee? |
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| 16:10.04 | Wartex | nope |
| 16:10.16 | Phaos | the only way I can think to get that z is to periodicly lower the unit from the starting height until it's z doesn't change from the last z position. at which point you have found it's height |
| 16:10.21 | Phaos | can stop the unit then |
| 16:10.28 | Phaos | and find it's x,y |
| 16:10.30 | Clord | people who love to optimize their map probably don't like this but..... I have arrays what is way bigger than needed ;) |
| 16:10.53 | Wartex | whats up with my maps uploading to 93% instantly, then the upload freezes there and after a while fails? |
| 16:10.54 | Otixa | Phaos, that will SO need a separate thread tho |
| 16:11.00 | Wartex | 3 times in a row now |
| 16:11.04 | Otixa | Anything less than a quadcore is gonna choke |
| 16:11.13 | Phaos | only if your checking it every split second |
| 16:11.20 | FahqueL | ok what the hell is this "attack start" actor on aberration |
| 16:11.31 | Phaos | imo I would only update the target every quarter/half a second |
| 16:11.34 | Otixa | Phaos, well, that's already like 3 passes |
| 16:11.40 | Otixa | Not including extra ones for precision |
| 16:11.54 | Wartex | FahqueL, the "melee" attack is like a swipe |
| 16:12.08 | Wartex | might be some kind of wind-gush effect |
| 16:12.21 | Phaos | mmm true |
| 16:12.47 | Clord | this is so interesting... time to play worms reloaded |
| 16:13.03 | vxcriss | damn I want worms too |
| 16:13.11 | vxcriss | money hasn't arrived yet :| |
| 16:13.13 | depthsofchaos | does anyone know why cant i add custom races ? |
| 16:13.27 | depthsofchaos | not in the dropdown after i added them :o |
| 16:14.07 | vxcriss | Hey, I'm trying to have the nice beam effect of a void ray on an ability. I created an effect- target ability and set the void beam - initialize effect on it, but nothing happens when I use it, any help? |
| 16:14.30 | vxcriss | depth maybe check the game variant thingy? |
| 16:14.50 | Lilianna | oooh the map editor looks so much nicer in Worms Reloaded |
| 16:14.56 | Lilianna | then previous worms games Ive played :o |
| 16:15.01 | vxcriss | damn you |
| 16:15.14 | vxcriss | so anyone can help me out with my void ray thingy? |
| 16:15.50 | vxcriss | I just want the nice beam effect between the caster and the target, that's all, don't want the charge-up or the damage or anything else |
| 16:17.05 | jorgenpt | Clord: I'm making many of my arrays 1 larger than needed, just so I don't have to use EventPlayer() - 1. :-p |
| 16:18.05 | Trager|546|US | Someone was talking about this a couple of days ago, how can I prevent players from their units attacking their allies? |
| 16:18.08 | FahqueL | @wartex: god im stupid, its just a sound actor... |
| 16:18.25 | Trager|546|US | from making their units* |
| 16:19.05 | Lilianna | Target flags in weapons |
| 16:19.11 | Lilianna | Uncheck Allies |
| 16:19.27 | Trager|546|US | thanks |
| 16:19.37 | vxcriss | anyone can help witht he void ray ability effect? |
| 16:19.52 | Trager|546|US | is the beam its own actor? |
| 16:20.12 | vxcriss | I haven't modified anything from the void ray beam, I just took the weapon's effect and added it to an ability |
| 16:20.43 | vxcriss | so the effect that was in the void ray's weapon under Effect property, is now in my effect - target ability |
| 16:21.18 | Huesy | I just found "BarbieHorseRideAdventure.SC2Bank" in my SC2 banks folder O.o |
| 16:21.39 | vxcriss | whe I use the ability in-game, the ability button remains toggled-on like it's "in use" but no effect displays |
| 16:21.44 | Trager|546|US | easter egg, or have you been playing weird games? |
| 16:21.49 | Trager|546|US | The plot thickens |
| 16:22.24 | Huesy | I've no idea... |
| 16:22.48 | Trager|546|US | vxcriss: That was my only idea |
| 16:22.51 | Trager|546|US | sorry |
| 16:23.05 | Lilianna | vxcriss, No idea really, but you could take a look at http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/8990-data-multi-phase-spells-advanced-difficulty/ |
| 16:23.11 | vxcriss | think I found something on the forums |
| 16:23.15 | vxcriss | :) |
| 16:23.16 | vxcriss | ty |
| 16:23.18 | Trager|546|US | I barely know how to open the data editor |
| 16:23.18 | rulssi | hey how can i remove a player from the game? |
| 16:23.19 | Lilianna | If you want it to be a beam of any length, you want it to Channel |
| 16:23.25 | Lilianna | length of time that is |
| 16:23.27 | rulssi | so it removes all units owned by the player etc |
| 16:23.41 | vxcriss | hmm |
| 16:23.56 | Lilianna | I think |
| 16:23.59 | Trager|546|US | rulssi give me a sec I'll copypaste my trigger |
| 16:24.07 | rulssi | thanks |
| 16:25.00 | Otixa | stabs Lilianna |
| 16:25.44 | Trager|546|US | Otixa's feeling frisky today |
| 16:25.54 | Otixa | :> |
| 16:26.23 | Trager|546|US | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/2372/ |
| 16:26.42 | rulssi | ah |
| 16:26.42 | depthsofchaos | anyone got a fix for the greyed out object ID when duplicating a unit? |
| 16:27.04 | Trager|546|US | there's definitely a better way to do it though |
| 16:28.49 | sNap | it is possible to create a custom armor type and custom dmg type? |
| 16:30.39 | Trager|546|US | any guesses on why I can't find my map in the custom games list? |
| 16:30.42 | FahqueL | @depthsofchaos: whenever i have that shit problem i create new instead of duplicating |
| 16:30.50 | FahqueL | have not figured out wtf causes that |
| 16:31.09 | depthsofchaos | ye but when doing it with actory you have to rename every damn event makes me crazy |
| 16:31.55 | Trager|546|US | oh, silly me! it's back at the bottom of the list |
| 16:32.37 | Trager|546|US | goddamn blizzard |
| 16:34.03 | Eiviyn | Has anyone managed to make a blank inventory item space... less blank? http://a.imageshack.us/img714/9723/inventoryblank1.jpg |
| 16:35.06 | Eiviyn | Spent hours trying to change the default "no item" icon without luck |
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| 16:37.25 | Arthas- | anyone know if its possible to change pathing / buildable ground through triggers during runtime? |
| 16:38.10 | Eiviyn | As far as I know, no |
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| 16:38.29 | Eiviyn | You can change a unit's model to one with a new pathing though |
| 16:38.51 | Arthas- | working on a turn based system with a max amount of moves ala heroes |
| 16:39.06 | Arthas- | using and manipulating the buildgrid would've been perfect |
| 16:39.37 | Ashamed | Well first half of day = offically blows |
| 16:39.48 | Arthas- | how so |
| 16:39.49 | Ahmaz | Any good guide on creating heroes? It's my first time using the editor.. Enabling all dependencies for campaign units took me a whole day to master >_< |
| 16:39.58 | Arthas- | Ahmaz hold |
| 16:40.12 | Ahmaz | holds |
| 16:40.13 | Ahmaz | =D |
| 16:40.15 | Ashamed | So our same time went down ( Instant messanger ) and i got to run all around my building helping people lol |
| 16:40.29 | Arthas- | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/tutorials/ for a collection and http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/431-data-complete-hero-tutorial/ for hero |
| 16:40.30 | Eiviyn | Open sc2 mapster, search "hero" in tutorial |
| 16:40.47 | jorgenpt | depthsofchaos: About the greyed out, I think you can restart the editor to edit it. |
| 16:40.50 | Arthas- | that first link holds tons of tutorials on different matters |
| 16:40.55 | Ahmaz | Thanks very much Arthas- |
| 16:41.00 | Arthas- | np |
| 16:41.04 | etravex | Does anyone have a clue of how to destroy a launched missile mid flight if the caster dies while the missile is traveling to it's target? |
| 16:41.11 | Ashamed | arthas you mean you only get to attack a certain amount? |
| 16:41.31 | Ashamed | and then if the fool ain't dead you lose? |
| 16:41.47 | Eiviyn | Not sure how you'd get who cast the missile |
| 16:41.48 | depthsofchaos | hmm gona try thx |
| 16:42.00 | Arthas- | I have a speed var set for each of the units, then I move one unit for a max distance of my speed, say 4 squares |
| 16:42.06 | Arthas- | then the opponent makes a move |
| 16:42.08 | Eiviyn | But yes, you can destroy missiles midflight using triggers |
| 16:42.23 | Ashamed | like FFT? |
| 16:42.29 | Arthas- | Like heroes of might and magic |
| 16:42.35 | Eiviyn | If you only have one caster, just make a trigger that when that specific caster dies, you destroy all missiles owned by the same players |
| 16:42.37 | Arthas- | oh |
| 16:42.38 | Arthas- | :p |
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| 16:44.50 | etravex | how would i do that? |
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| 16:46.08 | Eiviyn | Event: unit dies. Condition: unit type of unit is yada yada. Actions: Pick all units in region matching conditions; change filters to make missile required; kill picked unit |
| 16:46.25 | Eiviyn | And owner to owner of triggering unit |
| 16:47.18 | etravex | oh nice |
| 16:47.21 | etravex | thank you very much |
| 16:47.58 | Ahmaz | Would it better to start off with a large map and change it later (is that possible?) I'm thinking of making 2 arenas side by side by I don't have proper dimensions yet >_> |
| 16:48.53 | jorgenpt | Ahmaz: You can change it, yes |
| 16:49.04 | jorgenpt | On the menu, Map > Map Bounds... |
| 16:49.10 | jorgenpt | You can both grow and shrink. |
| 16:49.31 | Ahmaz | Awesome, thanks |
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| 16:52.07 | Ahmaz | :o I'm suprised the editor doesn't have rabbits :o |
| 16:52.57 | rooj | true, it DOES have carrots... |
| 16:53.41 | jorgenpt | Carrots?! :o |
| 16:53.45 | Ahmaz | Haha |
| 16:54.12 | depthsofchaos | why do i have to reload the freaking editor every time i update a dependency ?:o |
| 16:54.36 | Ahmaz | I think I read somewhere that it's a bug? |
| 16:54.54 | depthsofchaos | well the most anoying one i have encountered |
| 16:55.00 | Ahmaz | If you created your map before the campaign units were put in or something |
| 16:55.06 | Ahmaz | i.e. Beta |
| 16:55.32 | depthsofchaos | this isnt that |
| 16:55.35 | depthsofchaos | i update the mod i make |
| 16:55.46 | depthsofchaos | and it doesnt update the map that uses it |
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| 16:56.17 | Ahmaz | Oh.. I'm not sure then.. I'm a newbie D= |
| 16:56.34 | FahqueL | err umm, not sure wtf that means |
| 16:56.41 | FahqueL | hellfire u see this? |
| 16:56.57 | HellFire0102 | ah jeah |
| 16:57.00 | HellFire0102 | sry ^^ ;) |
| 16:57.06 | FahqueL | right click my name and hit query |
| 16:58.55 | Ashamed | zarafu you there? |
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| 17:05.16 | UltiDrgn | Alright... suppose I want to limit a player's view to a point that lies mid way between two units at a constant angle. The units will always remain with a sphere, and the camera needs to zoom dependant on how far apart they are both vertically and horizontally. |
| 17:05.25 | Ahmaz | Do critters have attack animations? How do you know/find out? |
| 17:06.03 | UltiDrgn | @ Ahmaz, go look in the previewer, first though is they do not |
| 17:06.24 | UltiDrgn | Anyways, I'm debating how best to accomplish this camera setting, any ideas? |
| 17:06.51 | Ahmaz | You mean test the document or..? |
| 17:06.57 | Ahmaz | Nevermind |
| 17:06.58 | Ahmaz | Found it |
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| 17:10.38 | Ahmaz | Some critters do have attack animations.. sweet. |
| 17:11.34 | Clord | maybe they somepoint planned to use them for something more than just for look and block way |
| 17:11.35 | Clord | XD |
| 17:11.40 | Clord | or |
| 17:11.44 | Clord | they added them for mappers |
| 17:12.04 | Clord | just like Kerrigan has overn ten pissed lines what you never hear in campaign plus all those command lines etc |
| 17:12.09 | Clord | over... |
| 17:12.16 | UltiDrgn | They never block the way, just keep clicking them |
| 17:12.22 | UltiDrgn | They explode like they did in SC1 |
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| 17:12.23 | Ahmaz | Hahaha |
| 17:12.30 | Ahmaz | BTW <3 your map Clord :D |
| 17:12.37 | Clord | XD |
| 17:12.45 | Clord | get on the line ;) |
| 17:12.48 | Clord | just joking ^^ |
| 17:13.35 | Impaler | Hello, anyone know how to make weapons that fire with independent cooldowns? |
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| 17:14.47 | Otixa | stabs |
| 17:15.24 | Clord | FrozenFirebat was already frozen enough |
| 17:15.30 | Clord | no need to give him cold feet too |
| 17:15.31 | Clord | XD |
| 17:15.33 | Impaler | I want to have two seperate weapons on a unit which fire independently, I've seen it done on Youtube |
| 17:15.48 | Clord | 8 bit theater style |
| 17:15.52 | Clord | stab stab stab |
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| 17:17.57 | naxxan | antihero likes penis in his bumhole |
| 17:18.10 | naxxan | ASHAMED'S PENIS THAT IS! |
| 17:18.19 | naxxan | successful troll is successful |
| 17:18.33 | AntiHero | Naxxan dont be mad cause i gave you AIDS |
| 17:18.49 | AntiHero | i told you and you said " I have to have that cock in my ass" |
| 17:18.53 | naxxan | antihero if you think back, the aids you have you got from me. |
| 17:19.09 | AntiHero | shut up you dirty Eskimo |
| 17:19.19 | jorgenpt | depthsofchaos: Have you tried just doing File > Close and reopening it? |
| 17:19.37 | depthsofchaos | ye |
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| 17:19.44 | depthsofchaos | only restart works |
| 17:19.59 | depthsofchaos | but theres a field for mod testing map in preferences |
| 17:20.04 | depthsofchaos | but i dont know how to set it |
| 17:20.07 | vxcriss | wth is a marker? |
| 17:20.34 | Impaler | Anyone know how to have a unit with multiple weapons firing with independent cooldowns? |
| 17:22.15 | AntiHero | whom ever made the colonial warz map has done this i forget whom it was |
| 17:22.25 | AntiHero | he has a turret that fires air and ground |
| 17:22.34 | AntiHero | both fire independently |
| 17:22.46 | Impaler | yes thats what I'm looking for |
| 17:22.50 | naxxan | thats just multiple attacks |
| 17:22.59 | AntiHero | query the colonial warz map and look for the maker |
| 17:23.00 | Ashamed | We so should make some mario party action |
| 17:23.09 | Ashamed | and just let everyone make their own mini game |
| 17:23.12 | AntiHero | i belive he posted his email adress on the map start screen |
| 17:23.19 | Ashamed | and WE ALL can put a lil bit of ourselfs in the map |
| 17:23.21 | Impaler | multiple attack? you mean like a zealot? |
| 17:23.47 | Impaler | cause thats just affecting the damage and armor effect on one target |
| 17:23.56 | AntiHero | no its two different projectiles coming from one tower and both are independent |
| 17:24.00 | Impaler | I want to be attacking to targets seperatly |
| 17:24.08 | AntiHero | yeah |
| 17:24.10 | AntiHero | thats what it does |
| 17:24.22 | AntiHero | it fires at air and ground with two different bullets |
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| 17:24.30 | AntiHero | seprete cool down |
| 17:24.38 | Eiviyn | Help! http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/9198-blank-inventory-faces/ :(( |
| 17:24.44 | AntiHero | what he did is combined two towers |
| 17:24.48 | AntiHero | how i do not know |
| 17:24.51 | Impaler | but you dont know your self how its's done? |
| 17:24.53 | Eiviyn | I swear I saw someone put icons on blank inventory spaces |
| 17:24.55 | AntiHero | no |
| 17:25.00 | AntiHero | sorry no |
| 17:25.22 | rrowland | That might have been my custom inventory |
| 17:25.33 | Impaler | well I'm not going to be using turrets, rather I want a DT to be able to hit two targets at once |
| 17:25.36 | Eiviyn | How did you do it? Dialogs or data? |
| 17:25.44 | rrowland | dialogs |
| 17:25.57 | Impaler | or atleast very nearly simultaniously |
| 17:26.00 | Eiviyn | So I'm probably chasing imaginary things |
| 17:26.07 | AntiHero | oh thats cool Impaler |
| 17:26.15 | AntiHero | good luck |
| 17:26.26 | Impaler | and it cant be triggers, its needs to be data |
| 17:27.02 | rrowland | Can't you just give it 2 of the same weapon or something |
| 17:27.04 | AsaPhelps | couldn't you just make 2 attack actors for that anti |
| 17:27.16 | AsaPhelps | i mean goliath does that in campaign |
| 17:27.17 | Impaler | I think Goliaths had some kind of upgrade in the campaign that allowed them to fire ground/air simultaniously |
| 17:27.18 | AntiHero | its for Impaler |
| 17:27.21 | AntiHero | not i |
| 17:27.35 | rrowland | yes they did |
| 17:27.42 | jorgenpt | Can you have an ability that only retargets the turret, not moving the unit in any way? |
| 17:27.50 | Impaler | yea I am trying to give it two of the same weapon right now, it still uses only one |
| 17:28.20 | Otixa | smacks Eiviyn |
| 17:28.22 | Impaler | Cool downs seem to be linked by default, need to figure out how to unlink them |
| 17:28.24 | Otixa | kicks Phaos |
| 17:28.27 | Otixa | slaps Tinman |
| 17:28.48 | AsaPhelps | otixa has behavioral problems |
| 17:28.54 | Eiviyn | Is Otixa some kind of spam bot |
| 17:29.00 | Otixa | Ye |
| 17:29.05 | Eiviyn | Makes sense |
| 17:29.41 | rrowland | Think it's just a boy who lost his father at a young age :( |
| 17:29.51 | AsaPhelps | but weren't you his father? |
| 17:29.56 | Impaler | not seeing colonial warz on the B-net map lists |
| 17:30.03 | AntiHero | its on the top |
| 17:30.04 | Impaler | are you sure you have the name correct? |
| 17:30.06 | AsaPhelps | warz makes it sound cool |
| 17:30.07 | AntiHero | i can see it |
| 17:30.12 | AntiHero | unless they reset again |
| 17:30.15 | AntiHero | just now |
| 17:30.17 | rrowland | Well thanks for letting the cat out of the bag |
| 17:30.24 | Impaler | what region? |
| 17:30.32 | AntiHero | go create map then go colonial line warz |
| 17:30.42 | AntiHero | type it into the search feild |
| 17:31.46 | AntiHero | hey chad have you played the golems that is on the top of the list ? |
| 17:32.29 | AntiHero | Ashamed have you played the golem that is on the top of the list ...... nothing like the old one and nothing like yours in fact its more like evolves than golem |
| 17:32.51 | Impaler | I'm still not seeing any colonial warz map |
| 17:32.55 | AntiHero | hmm |
| 17:33.03 | Impaler | I am using the Editor B-net search |
| 17:33.20 | AntiHero | no use the create search in the game |
| 17:33.28 | AntiHero | go createe custom map |
| 17:33.38 | AntiHero | and then use the search to find the map |
| 17:33.51 | AntiHero | you must log into battle net and search from there |
| 17:34.11 | Impaler | are you saying the editor search cant find a map unless I've already played it online? |
| 17:34.25 | AntiHero | i think thats how it worsk |
| 17:34.28 | AntiHero | works |
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| 17:34.37 | AntiHero | thats why its not there |
| 17:35.07 | Impaler | No that can not be, I see dozens of maps in the Editor search that I have never played |
| 17:35.15 | AntiHero | oh |
| 17:35.22 | Impaler | under Popular list |
| 17:35.33 | AntiHero | well try to log into b net and use there search tool there casue i can see it here on the top of the custom maps list |
| 17:36.14 | AsaPhelps | anyone else see every version of custom maps or something, I see like 10 golem wars etc |
| 17:36.15 | Impaler | I can search by "Big" and get 30 types of Big Game hunters so it is indeed doing a search |
| 17:36.56 | AntiHero | i see every version |
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| 17:37.37 | depthsofchaos | does anyone know which flag removes the cloak visual effect ?:o |
| 17:37.41 | AntiHero | hmm i wonder why you can not see the map ... |
| 17:38.13 | Impaler | what region is it in? |
| 17:38.24 | AntiHero | region as in us , eu |
| 17:38.30 | AntiHero | its us |
| 17:38.38 | Impaler | well I should see it then |
| 17:38.41 | AntiHero | yeah |
| 17:39.04 | Impaler | perhapse their is some kind of cache of names that has not updated for the editor |
| 17:39.17 | AntiHero | hold on let me see if i can get his email adress for you .... im at work so i cant log into B net but i know whom can ...just a sec |
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| 17:44.01 | Vail | i wonder would a lurker attack be considered melee or missile? |
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| 17:46.05 | depthsofchaos | its considered what you set it to :o |
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| 17:50.05 | vxcriss | anyone can explain in few words what a marker is? |
| 17:50.13 | vxcriss | some kind of flag? |
| 17:50.17 | mattavich-377 | Hey - Any idea why when i change the weapon - ammo pathing for mu unit i get "target must be in range" when it est? |
| 17:50.59 | slarti | yes, markers are some kind of flag. for example the collosus attack uses it so every unit only get hit once |
| 17:51.13 | vxcriss | thanks |
| 17:54.00 | mattavich-377 | I have a problem. I duplicated a structure similar to a photon cannon |
| 17:54.18 | mattavich-377 | it works perfectly except that the misisle fires form the center and not the position i've specified |
| 17:54.20 | mattavich-377 | in site ops |
| 17:54.21 | Huesy | What's the best way of changing a unit's walk animation at runtime without using "Move Unit Instantly to"? i.e. if you want to toggle between walk / run / sprint? |
| 17:54.25 | mattavich-377 | and launch query |
| 17:54.32 | mattavich-377 | Does anyone know why its not working now? |
| 17:55.27 | slarti | @mattavich: usually when I work with site operations, I try every possible setting and at some time it works |
| 17:55.36 | slarti | no idea what exactly have to be set |
| 17:55.45 | slarti | sry :( |
| 17:55.53 | HellFire01285 | does the model have the attachement point ? |
| 17:56.02 | HellFire01285 | @matta |
| 17:56.35 | HellFire01285 | you cant allways set the attachement point to lets say: center, because not every model has every attachement point |
| 17:56.36 | slarti | @Huesy you could use behaviours to change the model animation. Blizzard used it for the civilian models |
| 17:57.37 | Huesy | Of course! *slaps self* Thanks slarti. |
| 17:58.07 | mattavich-377 | hellfire |
| 17:58.13 | HellFire01285 | jup ? |
| 17:58.20 | mattavich-377 | i duplicated a building that is alreadysetup w |
| 17:58.30 | mattavich-377 | I had sophigherby3 on site ops |
| 17:58.36 | mattavich-377 | and orgin on launch query |
| 17:58.38 | mattavich-377 | all is well |
| 17:58.47 | mattavich-377 | i duplicate building and now it fires form center |
| 17:58.54 | mattavich-377 | even though i have the same settings |
| 17:59.11 | HellFire01285 | same model too ? |
| 17:59.45 | mattavich-377 | yep |
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| 17:59.48 | mattavich-377 | everything |
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| 18:00.14 | HellFire01285 | that is odd :) i would try deleting attachement points and try a different one |
| 18:00.23 | HellFire01285 | but be sure the model has the attachement point u set |
| 18:00.45 | rooj | maybe someone here can help me optimize what i am trying to do: |
| 18:00.53 | Impaler | Anyone know how to give weapons independent cooldowns? |
| 18:01.00 | mattavich-377 | well |
| 18:01.06 | mattavich-377 | the launch visual effect is int he right place |
| 18:01.10 | mattavich-377 | but the missile fires fromt he wrong place |
| 18:01.19 | HellFire01285 | ahh |
| 18:01.26 | HellFire01285 | the missle has its own actor |
| 18:01.30 | HellFire01285 | check his actor |
| 18:01.30 | rooj | i have created a unit that raises up and slams on the ground killing whatever is beneath it (havent implemented the killing part yet,) |
| 18:01.54 | rooj | the thing is, i have to use 2 units, one set with a ground flag, and one set with a flying flag |
| 18:02.04 | rooj | otherwise you can walk thru the unit, and thats no good |
| 18:02.16 | rooj | when its on the ground, its set to be the ground unit |
| 18:02.28 | rooj | then when it raises up it changes to the flying unit |
| 18:03.08 | rooj | is there...a simplified way to do this? i didnt see any way to change a units movement/collision type with triggers |
| 18:03.32 | rooj | and doing it this way i am going to have a TON of triggers |
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| 18:04.17 | mattavich-377 | i cant see any difference between the old missile acotr and the new -_- |
| 18:06.10 | slarti | as far as I know the action actor defines at what attachment point the missile launches. Do you have copied that aswell? |
| 18:07.04 | KelvCM | What would cause calling an action trigger to work only if I add a wait right before it? example: wait .1 seconds, launch_nuke() |
| 18:08.21 | Phaos | Otixa wants girls to join mapster vent |
| 18:08.31 | Phaos | he feels like it's a sausage festival |
| 18:09.45 | KelvCM | seems like the right time of the year for a sausage festival |
| 18:10.40 | rooj | tell him to check the kitchen |
| 18:10.50 | Otixa | lawl |
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| 18:14.00 | naxxan_ | does anybody know why i can play in offline mode on my work laptop on starcraft 2, but when i try to play offline at home it gives me a weird error |
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| 18:14.10 | Impaler | Anyone know how to get weapons with independent cooldowns? |
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| 18:14.24 | naxxan_ | about i need to goto battle.net and do something. but i dont remember irght now |
| 18:14.30 | naxxan_ | anyone know whats up with that? |
| 18:14.32 | Impaler | so a unit could for example fire at two targets simultaniously |
| 18:15.19 | Demonette | -.- |
| 18:15.19 | Demonette | as more as i play sc2 as worser i get at playing it... |
| 18:15.22 | SweetZombieJesus | why is 824 / 10 = 82.3999? |
| 18:15.33 | Demonette | Nope |
| 18:15.35 | Otixa | spanks Demonette |
| 18:15.41 | Demonette | it's 83.4 oO |
| 18:15.51 | Otixa | SweetZombieJesus, because of internal rounding |
| 18:15.53 | SweetZombieJesus | ty captain obvious |
| 18:15.54 | naxxan_ | i didnt quit. |
| 18:15.58 | Otixa | or the lack of it, rather |
| 18:16.05 | SweetZombieJesus | what rounding |
| 18:16.06 | AntiHero | sweetZombie jesus its 82.4 |
| 18:16.09 | SweetZombieJesus | its a simple division |
| 18:16.16 | AntiHero | yeah |
| 18:16.19 | AntiHero | very simple |
| 18:16.24 | Demonette | XD |
| 18:16.25 | AntiHero | it should not be rounding |
| 18:16.39 | AntiHero | 82.4 no remainder |
| 18:16.45 | Otixa | It should be rounding |
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| 18:16.53 | AntiHero | why |
| 18:16.54 | Demonette | I#m sure it's 83 :P |
| 18:16.57 | Otixa | Because of the way the CPU processes floating point numbers |
| 18:16.59 | AntiHero | lol |
| 18:17.03 | naxxan_ | demonette, as i play starcraft 2 more and more, i stay just as awesome at it as always, until i start playing cocky and the guys i get paired with are good :) |
| 18:17.03 | AntiHero | oh |
| 18:17.05 | Otixa | And you lose precision on a hardware level |
| 18:17.07 | AntiHero | that makes sense |
| 18:17.23 | AntiHero | thats why it rounds down |
| 18:17.27 | SweetZombieJesus | so tell me a better way to make a random real with 1 decimal |
| 18:17.35 | SweetZombieJesus | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.38 | Otixa | SweetZombieJesus, just add 0.0001 |
| 18:17.53 | SweetZombieJesus | sometimes its 82.3998 ... |
| 18:18.04 | Demonette | XD |
| 18:18.05 | Otixa | Well, round it to 1 decimal place then |
| 18:18.13 | Demonette | in the end everything is 0 |
| 18:18.14 | SweetZombieJesus | do tell how |
| 18:18.23 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 18:18.38 | SweetZombieJesus | i can do it for converting real to string |
| 18:18.43 | SweetZombieJesus | but not for making a random number |
| 18:18.53 | SweetZombieJesus | so i would have to convert real to string back to real |
| 18:18.54 | Otixa | What you can do is |
| 18:18.58 | Otixa | no |
| 18:19.01 | SweetZombieJesus | which is what i do now cept real, int, real |
| 18:19.05 | SweetZombieJesus | which should work |
| 18:19.09 | SweetZombieJesus | if this editor wasnt so crap |
| 18:19.34 | Otixa | mmrgh |
| 18:19.42 | Otixa | afak, RealToInt takes 2 args |
| 18:19.45 | Otixa | checks |
| 18:20.05 | SweetZombieJesus | you really think it takes 2 args? =/ |
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| 18:20.13 | SweetZombieJesus | youve never used any math in trigger editor have you? :P |
| 18:20.23 | SweetZombieJesus | in normal, decent, programming languages it might take 2 args |
| 18:20.42 | Otixa | <_< |
| 18:20.49 | etravex | Does anyone know how to remove a neural parasite tentacle? mine keeps getting visibly stuck even after infestor dies |
| 18:20.51 | SweetZombieJesus | why dont you just believe me |
| 18:20.55 | naxxan_ | demonette did you see what i said |
| 18:20.56 | naxxan_ | :3 |
| 18:20.57 | SweetZombieJesus | wheres the trust |
| 18:21.18 | Otixa | Well |
| 18:21.24 | rulssi | hey is it possible to make like "set (triggering unit) movement speed to 80% of the original movement speed |
| 18:21.25 | Otixa | You can clamp it, I guess |
| 18:21.35 | SweetZombieJesus | whats the point of that? |
| 18:21.43 | SweetZombieJesus | 0.1346 is still between 0 and 100 |
| 18:21.51 | Otixa | clamp it to max of the int value |
| 18:22.02 | Otixa | before you convert it to real |
| 18:22.05 | SweetZombieJesus | sigh |
| 18:22.14 | Otixa | anyway |
| 18:22.14 | SweetZombieJesus | no |
| 18:22.15 | SweetZombieJesus | cause |
| 18:22.20 | SweetZombieJesus | its not even reaching the max |
| 18:22.25 | Otixa | Why are you trying to get a random float anyway? |
| 18:22.29 | SweetZombieJesus | why isnt tehre a function for this |
| 18:22.31 | SweetZombieJesus | cause |
| 18:22.32 | Otixa | just use an int >:[ |
| 18:22.33 | SweetZombieJesus | i am |
| 18:22.39 | SweetZombieJesus | cause |
| 18:22.41 | SweetZombieJesus | it should work |
| 18:22.42 | SweetZombieJesus | is why |
| 18:22.50 | Otixa | Use 2 ints :D |
| 18:22.50 | SweetZombieJesus | fine ill use random int |
| 18:22.56 | SweetZombieJesus | but random real should just plain work |
| 18:23.01 | SweetZombieJesus | why must everything be work arounds |
| 18:23.15 | Otixa | Because Blizz love you |
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| 18:23.19 | SweetZombieJesus | liar |
| 18:23.23 | Otixa | :> |
| 18:23.28 | SweetZombieJesus | im gonna do random int between 11 and 1000 now |
| 18:23.34 | SweetZombieJesus | and then divide by 10 and convert to int |
| 18:23.36 | Otixa | spanks Demonette some more |
| 18:23.37 | SweetZombieJesus | real |
| 18:23.40 | Demonette | I never see what people say |
| 18:23.43 | SweetZombieJesus | and if i get 82.3999 |
| 18:23.45 | SweetZombieJesus | im gonna kick you |
| 18:23.47 | SweetZombieJesus | in the groin. |
| 18:23.49 | Demonette | Damn! Spank yourself! |
| 18:23.53 | Otixa | No, nub |
| 18:23.58 | Otixa | Get 2 ints |
| 18:24.03 | SweetZombieJesus | no |
| 18:24.05 | Otixa | one for the number |
| 18:24.06 | SweetZombieJesus | why should i |
| 18:24.11 | Otixa | 1 for floating point number |
| 18:24.13 | Otixa | :> |
| 18:24.21 | SweetZombieJesus | yes but i only want to get 1 decimal |
| 18:24.24 | SweetZombieJesus | so why not 11 to 1000 |
| 18:24.29 | Otixa | well |
| 18:24.30 | SweetZombieJesus | if i normally want 1.1 to 100 |
| 18:24.51 | Otixa | Well, fu then! ;P |
| 18:24.54 | SweetZombieJesus | if i wanted a big ass decimal i would use random real |
| 18:24.56 | SweetZombieJesus | SO THERE |
| 18:24.58 | SweetZombieJesus | OK |
| 18:25.10 | Demonette | Who fu's who? |
| 18:25.17 | Otixa | We fu you. |
| 18:25.23 | Otixa | :D |
| 18:25.28 | Otixa | pats Demonette |
| 18:25.30 | Otixa | Anyway |
| 18:25.33 | Otixa | Imma go sleep |
| 18:25.35 | Tinman | I wish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ63i9BXZSs&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 18:25.38 | Demonette | no you didn`t! |
| 18:25.46 | Demonette | Yey go sleeping |
| 18:26.44 | SweetZombieJesus | fuck me |
| 18:26.48 | SweetZombieJesus | again .0999 |
| 18:26.52 | Demonette | whats the proble with it? |
| 18:27.02 | SweetZombieJesus | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.16 | SweetZombieJesus | instead of giving me a 1 decimal real from 1.1 to 100 |
| 18:27.16 | etravex | for the love of God! Does anyone know how to remove a neural parasite tentacle! After the infestor launches it and before it hits the target if the infestor dies the tentacle persists visibly on the map |
| 18:27.28 | Demonette | Today or tomorrow SZJ? |
| 18:27.33 | SweetZombieJesus | it gives me, for example, 8.1999 instead of 8.2 |
| 18:28.04 | Demonette | just remove the launch effect? |
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| 18:28.13 | Demonette | and maybe something on the attack acteursand stuff |
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| 18:29.23 | Entos | Hello, my Username is Entos, and i have come here to talk to other map makers, talk about the map im creating, and be a part of the community |
| 18:29.24 | Demonette | the supply depots at the legs looks weird... |
| 18:29.26 | Pierrot | How can i set a random "team" init |
| 18:30.01 | etravex | what you mean remove launch effect? |
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| 18:30.38 | Pierrot | i have 5 player and 1 has to be given a unit while other will have an other unit |
| 18:31.09 | Entos | ... |
| 18:31.35 | Demonette | yey the lauch effect |
| 18:31.50 | Demonette | the launch effect normaly moves the tentacle |
| 18:32.41 | SweetZombieJesus | win |
| 18:32.42 | SweetZombieJesus | its so easy! |
| 18:32.45 | SweetZombieJesus | *ahem* |
| 18:32.46 | SweetZombieJesus | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.47 | Demonette | the launch effect is found in the effect tree of neuralparasit ability |
| 18:32.56 | Demonette | ahem? |
| 18:33.00 | Demonette | are you german? |
| 18:33.01 | etravex | but there is no launch effect on the Effect-Launch missile its blank |
| 18:33.02 | Demonette | XD |
| 18:33.19 | Demonette | Mmmhh let me look at it |
| 18:33.25 | etravex | k |
| 18:33.47 | Demonette | mmhhh |
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| 18:40.39 | etravex | anything? |
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| 18:41.13 | GeEom | Does anyone know why a unit might not move? I have a unit spawened and given an issue order, move to point, yet nothing happens, its move speed is set to 2.25 and... things |
| 18:41.58 | Ashamed | 1 hour and 20 more minutes guys |
| 18:42.19 | Demonette | there is an launch missile effect on the neural parasit ability |
| 18:42.35 | etravex | so if i remove that? |
| 18:42.51 | etravex | i still want to have the tentacle show up on the screen |
| 18:42.58 | Demonette | then it should work... well you have to replace it with the impact effect |
| 18:42.59 | etravex | i just dont want it to be there if the caster dies |
| 18:43.03 | Demonette | mmmhh |
| 18:43.11 | Demonette | Mmmhh |
| 18:43.19 | Demonette | *thinking* |
| 18:43.35 | Altharaz | hey guys |
| 18:43.44 | Demonette | well then it's up to the acteur i think |
| 18:43.59 | Altharaz | does somebody know how to change the direction of a turret (for an example the turret of an hellion) with triggers? |
| 18:44.00 | Demonette | so don't remove the tentacle launch missile |
| 18:44.14 | etravex | its really frustrating, as long as the tentacle impacts with target its fine, its only when the infestor dies B EFORE it makes contact but after it launches |
| 18:44.52 | etravex | i just dont know what to edit in the Effect-effect field of the tentacle actor to do what i need it to do |
| 18:44.53 | Demonette | what it does then? |
| 18:44.55 | Demonette | moves over the whole map |
| 18:45.01 | etravex | ya |
| 18:45.04 | Demonette | to the buttom left point? |
| 18:45.07 | etravex | it will either persist |
| 18:45.09 | etravex | in one place |
| 18:45.10 | Demonette | Xd |
| 18:45.29 | etravex | or if it attached to target(without applying the persistent effect) then it stays stuck to a unit as it moves around |
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| 18:46.03 | etravex | is there something I can do in triggers to remove the tentacle if the caster unit dies? |
| 18:46.45 | etravex | i tried doing event unit dies condition type of unit ==infestor action pick each unit in entire map matching missile required and Kill |
| 18:46.47 | etravex | but that doesn't work |
| 18:46.57 | etravex | its not necessarily falling under the missile category |
| 18:47.29 | Demonette | Hmmm should be more unit dies condition caster or? |
| 18:47.50 | etravex | ? |
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| 18:48.38 | etravex | and its really a bastard to test out because its nearly impossible to kill the unit before it lands its tentacle, but on the spare ocassion it does it looks like crap and is annoying |
| 18:48.52 | Demonette | Mmmhh think you can set somewhere that the acteur is destroied if the host is missing |
| 18:49.07 | etravex | ohhh do you know how to do that? |
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| 18:49.27 | Tordecybombo | let's be frank here |
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| 18:49.58 | Waterbottles | hi otixa |
| 18:50.09 | Demonette | *thinking* |
| 18:50.12 | Demonette | Hi bottle |
| 18:50.17 | Demonette | Otixa is asleep |
| 18:50.23 | rooj | in my bed |
| 18:50.25 | Waterbottles | oh ok i'll say hi to you then |
| 18:50.28 | Waterbottles | hi Demonette |
| 18:50.32 | Waterbottles | hi rooj |
| 18:50.32 | Pierrot | is possible to do a for each except |
| 18:50.37 | rooj | hi WBs |
| 18:50.38 | Waterbottles | hi Pierrot |
| 18:50.47 | Pierrot | hi Waterbottles |
| 18:50.55 | Demonette | acteur flag...? maybe... unsure |
| 18:51.18 | Demonette | of the neuralparasittentacle acteur... |
| 18:51.21 | Demonette | uhm... |
| 18:52.27 | etravex | im really bad with the event-event section of actors |
| 18:52.34 | etravex | so i have no idea what you are referring to |
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| 18:52.49 | Pierrot | Please I need help !! How can i randomly choose a player between active player and then give him a unit and set him to a player group and the other player give them a unit and add them to an other player group |
| 18:53.19 | Demonette | there is a value flags in the acteur data... |
| 18:53.43 | Demonette | Just a mass hi? |
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| 18:54.26 | etravex | so what do i do with the flag? |
| 18:54.51 | Cyb3r | does someone know how to lock doodads in the editor?[thus it does not move] |
| 18:55.35 | Demonette | (0|0|1|0) it |
| 18:56.06 | rooj | your doodads move? |
| 18:56.07 | rooj | :P |
| 18:56.11 | etravex | hu? |
| 18:56.16 | etravex | im not following |
| 18:56.26 | Kirym | doodads dont move in game... |
| 18:56.37 | Kirym | (usually at least) |
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| 18:56.40 | Demonette | damn sry |
| 18:56.41 | Cyb3r | I said editor |
| 18:56.43 | Demonette | i'm wrong |
| 18:56.43 | Cyb3r | :/ |
| 18:56.50 | Demonette | i thin |
| 18:56.51 | Demonette | k |
| 18:57.08 | rooj | oh i see what you mean |
| 18:57.21 | rooj | as long as you dont use selection mode should be OK? |
| 18:57.28 | rooj | otherwise dont think you can |
| 18:57.36 | Waterbottles | hi rooj!!! |
| 18:57.36 | Waterbottles | :) |
| 18:57.38 | Demonette | hosted attaches... i think |
| 18:57.39 | Cyb3r | well |
| 18:57.44 | rooj | hi WBs!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:57.57 | Cyb3r | my doodads have a tooooo great selection range |
| 18:58.03 | Demonette | if you edit this value there should be a small checkbox |
| 18:58.21 | Cyb3r | If I select one doodad, I just select the false one, because the range of the bigger doodad is within of my small one |
| 18:58.35 | Demonette | that tells you that the acteur doesn't work if there isn`t a target |
| 18:58.36 | etravex | the Fail if no host? |
| 18:58.41 | Cyb3r | searching weeks for a solution |
| 18:58.45 | Kirym | you can always just move the big one(s) for the time being, and back later |
| 18:58.49 | Demonette | i think so |
| 18:58.55 | etravex | ok i will give it a try thank you |
| 18:59.14 | Cyb3r | so what should I do about that? :( |
| 18:59.28 | Cyb3r | just imagine: |
| 18:59.36 | Demonette | maybe try it directly for the host also |
| 18:59.37 | Demonette | .... |
| 18:59.43 | Demonette | hope one of this works |
| 18:59.47 | Cyb3r | I select my small one, but the editor does not and selects the big one, which is 10000miles away... |
| 18:59.54 | GeEom | Anyone know why a unit might not move when issued a move order via trigger? |
| 19:00.23 | etravex | what do you mean try it directly fro the host? |
| 19:00.23 | Demonette | i'm not that sure about if it works or not |
| 19:00.23 | Kirym | ahh, well then just delete the big on and place it later |
| 19:00.23 | Cyb3r | well I thought too |
| 19:00.23 | Cyb3r | but |
| 19:00.35 | Cyb3r | if you have more than one big one, this method sucks :/ |
| 19:01.15 | Kirym | yeah i gotcha, then you can alternatively save a second copy of the map with all the big ones arranged how you want, and make another copy to arrange all the smaller ones... and merge them |
| 19:01.38 | vxcriss | hey does anyone know anything about this search area effect? |
| 19:01.48 | vxcriss | I'm looking at the heal beam search area |
| 19:02.04 | vxcriss | I see it has a 360 arc |
| 19:02.12 | Cyb3r | hmmm well thats an idea, but I need the big ones to have a better orientation placing the small ones you know.. |
| 19:02.38 | Cyb3r | I wonder why other people didn't have such problems :7 |
| 19:02.49 | vxcriss | what I'm trying to figure out is how this search area effect works |
| 19:02.56 | Kirym | what doodad is it? custom? |
| 19:03.00 | Cyb3r | yes |
| 19:03.22 | Cyb3r | it makes only trouble with custom |
| 19:03.37 | etravex | thank you demonette for your help |
| 19:03.45 | Waterbottles | hi :3 |
| 19:03.50 | Waterbottles | oh gosh hello! :4 |
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| 19:04.32 | Cyb3r | and I really don't know what to do about this, asked very often about that there :/ |
| 19:04.41 | Cyb3r | *here |
| 19:05.03 | slarti | the search effect just searches in the specified area and applies the corresponding effect to all units matching the conditiions |
| 19:05.09 | slarti | 360 arc means a circle |
| 19:06.40 | vxcriss | aha, ok thanks |
| 19:07.15 | Cyb3r | damn it :7 |
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| 19:07.51 | vjeux | hey |
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| 19:08.02 | vjeux | news! :) |
| 19:08.07 | vjeux | http://www.sc2mapster.com/ |
| 19:08.43 | Kirym | mario, nice |
| 19:09.22 | Cyb3r | lol nice |
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| 19:10.59 | SweetZombieJesus | vjeux what happened to the GUI contest? |
| 19:11.16 | vjeux | it's over! :p |
| 19:11.23 | SweetZombieJesus | and the results? |
| 19:11.25 | Cyb3r | long time ago over o.o |
| 19:11.26 | vjeux | oh you are right i didn't announce the results |
| 19:11.34 | SweetZombieJesus | ... |
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| 19:11.56 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/7458-contest-interface-votes/ |
| 19:11.58 | vjeux | you are second! |
| 19:12.08 | SweetZombieJesus | :> |
| 19:12.54 | slarti | interesting that blizz is gathering editor questions... maybe for their yet-to-release editor wiki? |
| 19:12.56 | Rommsteinz | Hey everyone, does someone have time to convert a WarCraft 3 model for StarCraft 2 usage for me ? This is a grenade : http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/grenade-50480/ |
| 19:13.03 | vxcriss | this medivac heal is so complicated it's a wonder someone actually to get it right |
| 19:13.08 | Rommsteinz | (don't have any modeling skill :| ) |
| 19:13.15 | vxcriss | actually, come to think of it, this whole editor is so fracked up |
| 19:13.42 | vxcriss | would have been so much easier if they had everything done through functions and objects |
| 19:14.25 | Kirym | the only thing that bugs me is that actors are unnecessarily complicated -_- (I understand them, but its just silly) |
| 19:16.00 | Icebane | Evening folks! |
| 19:17.22 | vxcriss | everything is unecessarily complicated, they created the GUI in order to allow non-programmers to work with it, and in doing this they overcomplicated the thing to such a great extent that it's harder to understand and use the GUI than it would have been just to learn programming |
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| 19:18.52 | vxcriss | I've just spent the last 3 hours manually duplicating the medivac heal ability (19 effects, about 9 validators, 2 behaviours, and now I'm going into the pile of actors...) |
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| 19:19.56 | rrowland | haha that mario map is cool |
| 19:20.05 | slarti | vxcriss i think the actual medivac heal beam consists of less effects, remember there is an upgrade in the campaign for a second healing beam per medivac, many effects belong to that |
| 19:20.15 | slarti | but i could be wrong |
| 19:20.29 | rrowland | btw you spelled rrowland wrong vjeux :P |
| 19:20.57 | vjeux | grr |
| 19:21.15 | vxcriss | I don't remember seeing any upgrades for the second beam, though it is included in the script, doing the second beam is not a problem at all, it's just an integer set to 2 instead of 1 on an effect count validator :) |
| 19:21.27 | vjeux | fixed sorry rrowland |
| 19:22.13 | slarti | doesnt the real medivac beam use a "healer" and the second one a periodic modify unit? |
| 19:22.38 | vxcriss | but yes, there's actually 19 effects 11 validators (I just re-counted, not 9, 11), 2 abilities, 2 behaviours and I haven't even counted the actors yet, just for the medivac heal |
| 19:23.36 | vxcriss | well the medivac has 2 abilities, the one is the direct heal and the one is the automatic search heal |
| 19:24.00 | vxcriss | the direct heal (the manual heal button) is not so complicated but the auto one is terrible |
| 19:24.40 | Bifuu | zomg guess what guys |
| 19:24.46 | rrowland | lol np |
| 19:24.50 | Bifuu | i actually have time today to work on my map! |
| 19:24.51 | vxcriss | and they are somehow tied in together through behaviours and those marks things... oh well... gonna take a break and leave the actors for some other time :P |
| 19:25.05 | rrowland | The mario thing is kinda cool, if he finishes it |
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| 19:27.00 | Icebane | Hey guys, who was it that released a libary-based WASD move system working for multiplayer? |
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| 19:35.15 | Driscoll | hey guys, noob question |
| 19:35.21 | Driscoll | how can i put a terran civilian in a map |
| 19:35.25 | Driscoll | i cant find it on the unit list |
| 19:36.13 | rooj | mario map?! |
| 19:36.32 | rooj | its just called "Civilian" |
| 19:36.35 | rooj | i believe |
| 19:36.40 | rooj | or maybe there is colonist |
| 19:37.19 | Driscoll | hmm, not seeing it still |
| 19:37.38 | HellFire0102 | il post my problem here ;) i had 2 guys helping me and they couldn't figure it out ;) |
| 19:39.08 | slarti | @driscoll put your campaign dependencies on top of the dependency list |
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| 19:39.38 | Driscoll | slarti, where is that? |
| 19:40.02 | slarti | file -> dependencies |
| 19:40.19 | HellFire0102 | i got a Model, and attached a Weapon via SiteOperations+ to the SOpAttachWeapon. Everything fine. But the Model is turned 90° in wrong Direction.. so another SiteOps with Explicit Rotation. Finaly it was rotated. But now the Problem : everytime the Unit walks = the Weapon is attached and is moving with his animation. But when he stops or Attacks the weapons stays still at the last position |
| 19:40.19 | HellFire0102 | it was. |
| 19:40.36 | Driscoll | cool slarti, and this will still be playable in multi, right? |
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| 19:40.58 | slarti | I guess so, but never tried myself yet |
| 19:41.28 | HellFire01285 | anybody an idea ;) ? |
| 19:42.08 | slarti | hm you could look at the model attachment points |
| 19:42.15 | slarti | does they move when the unit is attacking? |
| 19:42.17 | HellFire01285 | they are correct |
| 19:42.20 | HellFire01285 | jep |
| 19:42.30 | slarti | what model are you using? |
| 19:42.37 | HellFire01285 | if i dont put in the rotate ops it works expect it is rotated wrong |
| 19:42.41 | HellFire01285 | wow model |
| 19:42.48 | HellFire01285 | Akama, wow model and staff |
| 19:43.30 | HellFire01285 | one of the brightest data editor guys looked at the map and couldnt figure it out :) |
| 19:43.34 | HellFire01285 | damn crap^ |
| 19:44.10 | slarti | just to be sure we are talking about the same ^^ have you looked in the previewer and viewed the attachments while the unit is playing the attack animation? |
| 19:44.22 | HellFire01285 | jep |
| 19:44.30 | slarti | ah ok, then I have no idea |
| 19:45.12 | HellFire01285 | im starting to DL 3dsmax and rotate it before i import it |
| 19:45.17 | HellFire01285 | should work |
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| 19:54.10 | Driscoll | another question, should i duplicate a unit to make a custom version |
| 19:54.18 | Driscoll | and also, should i check everything? |
| 19:54.26 | Driscoll | when the duplicate box comes up? |
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| 19:57.01 | mattavich-377 | Evening rrowland |
| 19:58.28 | HeyRevolver | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y54yESyq6Io |
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| 19:59.08 | HeyRevolver | he's climbin in yo windows snatchin yo people up tryin a' rape em |
| 19:59.29 | HeyRevolver | hide yo wie, hid eyo kids, hide yo husband |
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| 20:01.48 | rooj | antoine! |
| 20:02.09 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 20:02.31 | HeyRevolver | "Cuz they rapin everybody out here" |
| 20:02.35 | HeyRevolver | is my avorite part |
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| 20:03.43 | HeyRevolver | rooj have you seen the auto tune remix? |
| 20:04.10 | rooj | yeah lol |
| 20:04.18 | rooj | and wtf just happened to battlenet |
| 20:04.21 | rooj | i just got some crazy error |
| 20:04.35 | Icebane | Does anyone know if there is a way to remove the sound that plays whenever you use a commandcard button? |
| 20:04.38 | rooj | and now when i click quick match, nothing is there |
| 20:04.39 | rooj | O_O; |
| 20:06.06 | rooj | weird |
| 20:06.16 | rooj | the servers went down or something lol |
| 20:06.21 | rooj | but i can still log in |
| 20:06.31 | rooj | all of the custom maps are gone |
| 20:06.33 | rooj | except the featured ones |
| 20:07.12 | rooj | looks like everything is slowly popping back up |
| 20:08.00 | HeyRevolver | you can run and tell that... homeboy |
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| 20:09.41 | rrowland | lolol |
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| 20:10.05 | rrowland | hide your daughters, hide your wife |
| 20:10.12 | rrowland | hide your husband cause this guys rapin errbody |
| 20:10.42 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:10.48 | nicoli_s | thats so funny that video is from my town |
| 20:11.03 | rrowland | lol really |
| 20:11.29 | rrowland | that makes me want to move to alabama |
| 20:12.10 | vjeux | nicoli_s is a rapist! |
| 20:12.23 | rrowland | nicoli you don't have to confess |
| 20:12.27 | rrowland | they're lookin for you |
| 20:12.29 | rrowland | they gon find you |
| 20:13.30 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:13.43 | Waterbottles | hi :3 |
| 20:13.43 | vjeux | xD |
| 20:13.50 | nicoli_s | have you see that other youtube video struttin that ass? also in huntsville |
| 20:14.03 | nicoli_s | funnier than the rapin one imho |
| 20:14.22 | rrowland | no ill look it up |
| 20:14.37 | HeyRevolver | holy shit |
| 20:14.40 | HeyRevolver | you should go ind antoine |
| 20:14.43 | HeyRevolver | and give him a high ive |
| 20:15.04 | HeyRevolver | and be like hide yo kids, hide yo wie, hide yo kids, hide yo wie |
| 20:15.11 | HeyRevolver | f |
| 20:15.17 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:15.19 | HeyRevolver | this laptop has about had it |
| 20:15.31 | mattavich-377 | Why is it when you duplicate a unit it is pot luck if the fields change with it correctly |
| 20:15.33 | nicoli_s | apparently some company in town hired him to do commercials for them |
| 20:15.37 | rrowland | what the hell is this guy talking about |
| 20:15.39 | HeyRevolver | hahaha |
| 20:15.40 | HeyRevolver | nice |
| 20:15.45 | mattavich-377 | i've duplicated the same unit multiple times and each time there is something different |
| 20:16.10 | HeyRevolver | Duplication makes copies o stu which messes with everything |
| 20:16.12 | nicoli_s | rrowland:no one knows |
| 20:16.17 | HeyRevolver | omg this keyboard should DIE |
| 20:16.40 | rrowland | im mad because everyone runs, thats fine, ill walk behind you |
| 20:16.56 | rrowland | struttin dat ass, struttin dat ass |
| 20:16.58 | rrowland | lols |
| 20:17.18 | nicoli_s | why dont you walk to guntersville? only 38 miles! |
| 20:17.20 | rrowland | This guy's on something |
| 20:17.24 | HeyRevolver | where is that one? |
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| 20:17.57 | nicoli_s | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nft9Y51IOfc |
| 20:18.21 | HeyRevolver | ty |
| 20:19.04 | HeyRevolver | AW SHIT NO YOU DONT |
| 20:20.07 | nicoli_s | lol i wish i could find this and just listen to him yell |
| 20:20.21 | vjeux | ok, I made my decision, no way i'm going to go to huntsville now, it's a rapist and alcoholics city |
| 20:20.25 | rrowland | I guess 38 miles isn't too far when you're hopped up on meth and crack |
| 20:20.37 | nicoli_s | vjeux:huntsville is awesome |
| 20:20.41 | HeyRevolver | LOL |
| 20:20.43 | nicoli_s | these people just make it better |
| 20:20.49 | HeyRevolver | strut that ass strut that ass strut that ass |
| 20:21.00 | nicoli_s | vjeux:also, you fixed sc2mapster yet? :P |
| 20:21.17 | vjeux | nah, it's way to slow on my dedicated server |
| 20:21.38 | vjeux | i've tried installing it on my windows but well. .. it's sooo hard, too much shitty packages |
| 20:21.50 | vjeux | so I'm going to retry on my mac |
| 20:21.55 | vjeux | hopefully it'll work |
| 20:21.59 | rrowland | I've watched some of the remixes |
| 20:22.02 | rrowland | But the original is better |
| 20:22.05 | nicoli_s | indeed |
| 20:22.15 | nicoli_s | and that sucks vjeux, just get hubert to buy you a new comp :P |
| 20:22.32 | rrowland | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrWu13Uh2Yw but this remix is amazing |
| 20:22.32 | vjeux | http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/65006-1v1-terran-protoss-delta-quadrant |
| 20:22.36 | vjeux | is that the real grubby? |
| 20:22.38 | vjeux | I wish :p |
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| 20:23.03 | nicoli_s | is this him? http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1190776/1/Gruby/ |
| 20:23.05 | RaydenUni | is it possible to make the pylon energy field work for teammates? |
| 20:23.31 | vjeux | he has 5-8 ... can't be the real gruby :p |
| 20:23.58 | vjeux | oh and it's gruBBy :p |
| 20:24.13 | vjeux | omg he even has a wikipedia page! |
| 20:24.13 | vjeux | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Schenkhuizen |
| 20:24.24 | slarti | http://www.mymym.com/en/news/19017.html |
| 20:24.39 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 20:25.42 | RaydenUni | hey guys, Behavior - Power Source. Any way to make this work for teammates? |
| 20:26.27 | slarti | you could create invisible units for each player with that behavior, but thats an ugly workaround :p |
| 20:28.07 | RaydenUni | yeah, that's what i'm trying to avoid |
| 20:28.11 | RaydenUni | it's not the only way to do what i want |
| 20:28.16 | RaydenUni | i want control points spread around the map |
| 20:28.25 | RaydenUni | if your team controls it, you can build some sort of money producing structure |
| 20:28.36 | RaydenUni | but of course i only want the owning team to be able to build |
| 20:28.43 | RaydenUni | power source seemed like one way to do it |
| 20:28.58 | RaydenUni | another is to just let the buildings get destroyed by the static defenses |
| 20:29.40 | slarti | you could add/remove the behaviors when the owner of the control point changes |
| 20:29.51 | slarti | and also destroy the buildings of the other team there |
| 20:32.26 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 20:32.29 | RaydenUni | that's all trigger work |
| 20:32.34 | Waterbottles | what's the max amount of variables and triggers I can have on the map? |
| 20:32.35 | RaydenUni | i was hoping to do it via data |
| 20:32.50 | RaydenUni | although it's not a lot of trigger work |
| 20:33.07 | RaydenUni | doing it via data sounds better, more elegant and flexible |
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| 20:35.44 | Waterbottles | hieeeee |
| 20:35.46 | Waterbottles | hIEY! :) |
| 20:36.32 | mattavich-377 | Hey - Where do I assign a mvoer to my model/actor? |
| 20:36.37 | mattavich-377 | i cant find the field or anything |
| 20:36.41 | mattavich-377 | where i can specify it |
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| 20:36.51 | Vulfe | HI ^^ |
| 20:36.55 | slarti | an actor does not have a mover |
| 20:37.01 | mattavich-377 | a missile does |
| 20:37.06 | slarti | yes |
| 20:37.06 | mattavich-377 | where do i add it? |
| 20:37.25 | slarti | in the missile unit or the launch missile effect |
| 20:37.39 | Demonette | Teams powerfields ^^ nice |
| 20:37.48 | mattavich-377 | do you know whatt he field might be called? =/ |
| 20:38.14 | Demonette | is the value mover under unit? |
| 20:38.19 | Demonette | oO |
| 20:38.22 | mattavich-377 | huh? |
| 20:38.25 | Vulfe | probably under the missile unit |
| 20:38.31 | slarti | you have a "Search" field in the data editor |
| 20:38.35 | RaydenUni | what Demonette n? |
| 20:38.37 | slarti | just enter "mover" there |
| 20:38.38 | mattavich-377 | i cant see any fields to place it |
| 20:38.56 | RaydenUni | mattavich-377, look at one that works already |
| 20:38.58 | Demonette | a mover for a missile or for a normal unit? |
| 20:38.58 | RaydenUni | see how it is connected |
| 20:39.05 | antares- | movement - mover |
| 20:39.07 | antares- | is the field |
| 20:39.09 | mattavich-377 | i am but ic ant find where "mover" goes |
| 20:39.10 | antares- | under unit |
| 20:39.11 | Demonette | if for a unit look at the units data |
| 20:39.17 | Demonette | yes as antares said |
| 20:39.17 | mattavich-377 | but i think i found it now i know |
| 20:39.20 | RaydenUni | it might be through tokens like actors are |
| 20:39.20 | Vulfe | It's Movement > Mover |
| 20:39.20 | Demonette | movement - mover... |
| 20:39.23 | Vulfe | for projectile units |
| 20:39.33 | RaydenUni | um |
| 20:39.36 | mattavich-377 | ok elts see if my new defence tower works |
| 20:39.37 | RaydenUni | Movement - Mover |
| 20:40.41 | mattavich-377 | Finally got all 3 towers tow ork, it's taken me hours |
| 20:40.45 | Vulfe | lol |
| 20:40.49 | Vulfe | only 3 towers? |
| 20:40.53 | mattavich-377 | exactly same towers just different units for hp/attack |
| 20:40.55 | mattavich-377 | and yet |
| 20:40.59 | mattavich-377 | everytime i duped |
| 20:41.07 | mattavich-377 | something new would happen that caused a problem |
| 20:41.09 | RaydenUni | it took you hours to duplicate and change 2 stats? |
| 20:41.12 | mattavich-377 | data editor is a pain int he ass |
| 20:41.14 | mattavich-377 | Thanks guys |
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| 20:41.37 | mattavich-377 | It took me hours troubleshooting, starting again, launch query problems, everything |
| 20:41.37 | Vulfe | rrowland! |
| 20:41.47 | mattavich-377 | nevermind, ive done it thank goy |
| 20:41.48 | mattavich-377 | god |
| 20:41.55 | rrowland | ! |
| 20:42.00 | Demonette | god is hiding |
| 20:42.05 | rrowland | don't thank me, I didn't do anything |
| 20:42.07 | FahqueL | lol good job matta |
| 20:42.13 | FahqueL | finally got em done eh |
| 20:42.18 | Vulfe | pats rrowland on the back |
| 20:42.20 | Vulfe | really nice work, man! |
| 20:42.35 | mattavich-377 | Towers looks cool like :0 |
| 20:42.37 | mattavich-377 | :) |
| 20:42.43 | rrowland | ty |
| 20:42.43 | mattavich-377 | I've done a good job! =D |
| 20:43.39 | mattavich-377 | it has been a data editor learning bonanza today |
| 20:44.16 | rooj | i just played my FFA match |
| 20:44.20 | rooj | FFA sucks ;x |
| 20:44.32 | RaydenUni | yeah, why would you play ffa? |
| 20:44.37 | RaydenUni | the winning strategy is to turtle |
| 20:44.42 | rooj | its just a bunch of running around |
| 20:44.47 | rooj | blue kills red |
| 20:44.49 | rooj | red runs |
| 20:44.51 | rooj | builds somewhere else |
| 20:45.07 | rooj | yellow kills green |
| 20:45.11 | rooj | green builds somewhere else |
| 20:45.19 | rooj | red kills yellow |
| 20:45.20 | rooj | etc etc etc |
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| 20:45.44 | Demonette | and then red overwhlem all the others and finishes everything |
| 20:46.02 | Demonette | and while 1 building is left he got a disconnect |
| 20:46.14 | Demonette | and all others say lol |
| 20:46.18 | Demonette | thats a happy end |
| 20:46.22 | rooj | lol |
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| 20:47.20 | RaydenUni | why does my unit have two health bars? |
| 20:47.46 | mattavich-377 | He's a cat that lost 7 liveS? |
| 20:47.53 | Demonette | How did you this? |
| 20:47.53 | Demonette | oO |
| 20:47.53 | Demonette | WHooot? |
| 20:48.02 | Demonette | 2 lifes you mean... |
| 20:48.08 | RaydenUni | it has two health bars |
| 20:48.12 | Demonette | i also want more then one health bar... |
| 20:48.12 | RaydenUni | they read the same thing |
| 20:48.16 | RaydenUni | like if you hold ALT you see two bars |
| 20:48.23 | RaydenUni | he doesn't have more life because of it |
| 20:48.26 | Saucy | Woah.. has anyone seen the morph stages in the previewer? under effects |
| 20:48.33 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 20:48.36 | Saucy | It's a remake of the zerg sc1 building sequences |
| 20:48.36 | RaydenUni | he has two actors |
| 20:48.46 | Demonette | Yes i already did |
| 20:48.59 | Demonette | the remake of the zerg building sequence is odd... |
| 20:48.59 | RaydenUni | esy fix |
| 20:49.03 | Demonette | XD |
| 20:49.07 | Demonette | two acteurs.. lol |
| 20:49.12 | Demonette | how easy =P |
| 20:49.17 | Waterbottles | hi Demonette!!! :) |
| 20:49.20 | Demonette | wait... |
| 20:49.21 | RaydenUni | damnit |
| 20:49.26 | Demonette | two acteurs mmmmhh |
| 20:49.33 | Demonette | Hi bottle |
| 20:49.42 | Demonette | you're still welcome |
| 20:49.44 | RaydenUni | at some point my actor got switched |
| 20:49.45 | RaydenUni | no idea why |
| 20:49.57 | Demonette | how you mean switched? XD |
| 20:50.01 | mattavich-377 | DE likes to have fun and giggle playing tricks |
| 20:50.19 | Demonette | De? |
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| 20:51.09 | Oninji | Hellow |
| 20:51.09 | mattavich-377 | data editor |
| 20:51.15 | mattavich-377 | lo fella |
| 20:51.19 | Demonette | Hellauw! |
| 20:51.26 | Oninji | How're ya guys? |
| 20:51.38 | Demonette | damn freaking insane? |
| 20:51.49 | mattavich-377 | doing well, my map is awesome |
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| 20:52.33 | Dedo | Hi people who dont like me |
| 20:52.42 | Dedo | apperantly |
| 20:52.46 | Demonette | Mmmhh |
| 20:52.50 | Demonette | =P |
| 20:52.57 | Oninji | lol |
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| 20:55.04 | mattavich-377 | In maps liek DOTA, what doy ou rpefer |
| 20:55.07 | mattavich-377 | jesus christ |
| 20:55.13 | mattavich-377 | typos man |
| 20:55.14 | mattavich-377 | ok |
| 20:55.25 | mattavich-377 | Do you prefer hotkeys on qwerty |
| 20:55.28 | mattavich-377 | wasd |
| 20:55.30 | mattavich-377 | or somethign else? |
| 20:55.34 | mattavich-377 | for abilities |
| 20:55.58 | Dedo | qwer or 1234 for abilities is most comfortable atm |
| 20:56.04 | Dedo | cus wasd movement is laggy |
| 20:56.10 | goomba_ | numbers are for grouping |
| 20:56.11 | Dedo | and wasd =/= dota |
| 20:56.26 | mattavich-377 | i jsut want to assign some comfortable hotkeys to hero abilities |
| 20:56.44 | Dedo | you dont need grouping, just make a single selection |
| 20:57.03 | Dedo | hero should be the only unit selected at all times |
| 20:57.19 | Dedo | selections should be locked |
| 20:57.26 | Dedo | but haven't seen anyone do it yet |
| 20:57.43 | Dedo | and atm even with number groupings its uncomfortable imo |
| 20:57.59 | Dedo | in dota battles I found myself f!@#ed cus I accidently in battle selected a mob |
| 20:58.18 | Dedo | and it took time for me to relize and time to press 1 2 3 or 4 |
| 21:01.54 | Dedo | Yup... |
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| 21:06.23 | Xackery | howdy Programmer. |
| 21:06.52 | Error | any new releases? |
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| 21:08.09 | pinzu | oh god the single player featued map is a fucking joke |
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| 21:09.43 | progammer | howdy |
| 21:10.13 | progammer | and since you spelled my name wrong i was not notified |
| 21:10.30 | Dedo | hi gammer |
| 21:10.31 | Xackery | Howdy progamma. |
| 21:10.35 | Vail | whats a gammer and why are you a pro? |
| 21:11.09 | progammer | gammer is a person who gamm |
| 21:11.20 | progammer | and since no one know what gamm is i'm a pro |
| 21:11.23 | Dedo | first time I saw that name I saw programmer, when I looked closely its more like a pro-gamer, but double m |
| 21:11.34 | Xackery | progammer: For event activity, is there any thresholds you try to avoid or know of? |
| 21:11.57 | Vail | works for me .. so hello progammer |
| 21:12.45 | progammer | xackery : what exactly do u mean |
| 21:13.29 | Xapti | I hear you ca't make block commnts in starcraft 2 editor? |
| 21:13.30 | Xackery | As in, how many events is allowed before you get issues, e.g. 500 events? |
| 21:13.32 | Xackery | 100 events? |
| 21:13.54 | Xackery | or have you had any issues with that before? |
| 21:14.42 | Arthas- | Does anyone here recall a map that was released very early and had the corners of islands marked out square-wise with some halo looking effect? |
| 21:14.42 | mattavich-377 | anyone here on EU? |
| 21:14.42 | progammer | i would says try to avoid using event as much as possible |
| 21:14.49 | progammer | as they could lag the map |
| 21:14.51 | Dedo | <--- |
| 21:14.58 | progammer | use 1 event with condition checking |
| 21:15.06 | mattavich-377 | xack, you get issues if you have about 5 unit dies event and nuke them |
| 21:15.10 | Xapti | can you make block comments in starcraft 2 editor? |
| 21:15.13 | mattavich-377 | always use 1 event for ALL functions |
| 21:15.16 | nicoli_s | no xapti |
| 21:15.29 | mattavich-377 | I had a lot of rpoblems with performance |
| 21:15.40 | Xackery | mattavich-377: Tychus05 map has "Unit Takes Damage" events with a condition, there's about 5 of em |
| 21:15.40 | mattavich-377 | The lesson is, it doesn't matter how long a trigger is |
| 21:15.45 | mattavich-377 | but it matters how many threads you use |
| 21:15.51 | progammer | ^ |
| 21:16.16 | Vail | Cold Finger ... the one with Minus Touch >..> |
| 21:16.46 | Dedo | how much does an event "period event - every 0.1 seconds of game time" lag? |
| 21:17.34 | mattavich-377 | It actions your trigger 10 times a second |
| 21:17.42 | pinzu | 10 times more then a event 1.0 time period ! ;D |
| 21:18.35 | mattavich-377 | I do whatever i can to steer clear of periodic timers, loops and unit dies evets |
| 21:18.55 | pinzu | but I dont understand |
| 21:18.56 | mattavich-377 | map is as smooth as a baby's bottom |
| 21:18.59 | pinzu | if you have conditions |
| 21:19.06 | pinzu | shouldn't that sort of prevent it from lagging? |
| 21:19.09 | mattavich-377 | nope |
| 21:19.13 | mattavich-377 | 10 times a second |
| 21:19.34 | mattavich-377 | is condition true? no true? no true? no no true? no true? no no true? no true? no no true? no true? no no true? no true? no |
| 21:19.36 | mattavich-377 | every second |
| 21:19.37 | pinzu | not talking about the periodic events but in generaö |
| 21:20.04 | Arthas- | anyone have a tip where to look at if i want to draw a grid on the terrain in a region? |
| 21:20.18 | mattavich-377 | CTRL SHIFT H? |
| 21:20.23 | Arthas- | ingame |
| 21:20.23 | mattavich-377 | oh no that's pathing |
| 21:20.24 | Arthas- | :p |
| 21:20.26 | mattavich-377 | oh dno |
| 21:21.38 | mattavich-377 | Here's somehting i'ms tuck on |
| 21:21.47 | mattavich-377 | Imy leaderboard shows total kills |
| 21:21.51 | mattavich-377 | for each player |
| 21:22.00 | mattavich-377 | I want the leaderboard to sort by kills |
| 21:22.06 | mattavich-377 | so guy with most kills at top etc |
| 21:22.15 | mattavich-377 | i tried using "sort" function but it doesn't seem to do anything at all |
| 21:22.22 | pinzu | do your own |
| 21:22.34 | pinzu | like player[x][row] |
| 21:22.38 | Arthas- | Leaderboard - Sort (Last created leaderboard) by column 1, in Ascending order, with priority 1 |
| 21:22.39 | Arthas- | that one? |
| 21:22.48 | mattavich-377 | yeah, does it work for you? |
| 21:22.59 | Arthas- | havent had the time to try |
| 21:23.08 | pinzu | I don't know how that would work but, i'd make my own |
| 21:23.31 | Arthas- | mattavich-377 in this case id dload random TD and look how they did if they sort |
| 21:24.08 | pinzu | assing a variable to a player and then assing him to a row |
| 21:24.14 | pinzu | then when you update the leaderboard |
| 21:24.21 | pinzu | you check on which row he is just |
| 21:24.34 | pinzu | intiger[player][row]? |
| 21:24.41 | Arthas- | ah, it was depthofchaos who made it |
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| 21:25.03 | Arthas- | ~seen depthofchaos |
| 21:25.06 | purl | Arthas-: i haven't seen 'depthofchaos' |
| 21:25.15 | Arthas- | ~seen depthsofchaos |
| 21:25.16 | purl | depthsofchaos <~depthsofc@adsl026.adsl.hungarnet.hu> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3h 39m 11s ago, saying: 'its considered what you set it to :o'. |
| 21:25.43 | Arthas- | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/4075-netstorm-islands-at-war/ anyone have any idea how to do the outline he did there (im just assuming its triggers :p |
| 21:26.33 | pinzu | what does this do? Leaderboard - Move row 1 into group 1 in (Last created leaderboard) |
| 21:27.28 | Error | owner of triggering unit would equal the player number? |
| 21:27.58 | RaydenUni | http://maulware.net/tutorials/leaderboard.html |
| 21:28.04 | RaydenUni | this tutorial looks really nice |
| 21:28.05 | Error | thanks |
| 21:28.06 | RaydenUni | just wanted to say |
| 21:28.20 | Vulfe | http://i37.tinypic.com/22bx9c.jpg |
| 21:28.24 | Vulfe | What should I do with this area |
| 21:29.05 | pinzu | ,make it less wide |
| 21:29.23 | Vulfe | well |
| 21:29.26 | Vulfe | there are going to be troops there |
| 21:30.24 | pinzu | scrap that i say xD |
| 21:30.36 | Vulfe | ? |
| 21:30.45 | pinzu | '''''sacasm''' |
| 21:31.18 | Vulfe | well |
| 21:31.21 | Vulfe | it's outdoors |
| 21:31.21 | Vulfe | hmmm |
| 21:32.01 | pinzu | what i meant was its too long on the length and to short on the sides |
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| 21:32.09 | pinzu | but IDK rly |
| 21:32.24 | Motive | jesus christ |
| 21:32.25 | pinzu | if it ends where you marked* |
| 21:32.26 | Motive | I love my players. |
| 21:32.28 | Motive | http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4136/4925275392_a0ba4fb5a4_o.jpg |
| 21:32.35 | Motive | Does that not look like it was created in a map editor? |
| 21:33.08 | Vulfe | it does |
| 21:33.16 | Motive | My players made that using basic chat commands. |
| 21:33.18 | Motive | All of it. |
| 21:33.21 | Motive | Even Zeratul's psi blade of fire. |
| 21:33.22 | Motive | Lol |
| 21:33.23 | Vulfe | lol |
| 21:33.23 | Vulfe | what |
| 21:33.27 | Motive | Yep |
| 21:33.44 | rrowland | That's cool |
| 21:33.50 | Vulfe | movie maker? |
| 21:33.50 | Motive | Not the terrain itself. But the walls, containers, monitors, gates, corpses, everything else but the terrain |
| 21:33.51 | Vulfe | thing |
| 21:33.57 | nicoli_s | nice motive |
| 21:34.08 | rrowland | And how long did that take them lol |
| 21:34.14 | Motive | Prolly half an hour |
| 21:34.14 | Motive | Lol |
| 21:34.16 | rrowland | Cause it'd take me like an hour with the editor |
| 21:34.17 | rrowland | lol |
| 21:34.25 | pinzu | its time someone makes the first "escape maker" ;D |
| 21:34.32 | Motive | They're pretty good at it |
| 21:34.46 | Motive | Plan on adding commands to make it a lot faster though, after the first time |
| 21:34.48 | rrowland | Do they have to type in all the doodad names? |
| 21:34.53 | Motive | Basically, for now |
| 21:35.00 | rrowland | And they just memorized them or what |
| 21:35.03 | rrowland | That's pretty crazy |
| 21:35.04 | Zarafu | Anyone here really good at debugging a leaderboard? |
| 21:35.07 | Motive | I'm adding a better alias system so they can basically recreate parts of their base off the top of their heads. |
| 21:35.13 | Motive | But for now, they have a list or they memorize em, yeah |
| 21:35.24 | Motive | They can basically create any actor and attach it to any unit, in any place |
| 21:36.02 | rrowland | would suck to get DCed after making something like that |
| 21:36.05 | FahqueL | does roach melee attack have anything special about it? |
| 21:36.05 | Motive | Yeah. xD |
| 21:36.12 | Motive | Making it a lot easier to make stuff like that in 2.0 |
| 21:36.41 | Motive | Ex right now |
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| 21:36.49 | Motive | "@attach FireMedium Weapon" would create Zeratul's fire blade weapon |
| 21:37.10 | rrowland | While he's selected? |
| 21:37.13 | Motive | Yup |
| 21:37.17 | Motive | 2.0 will be able to make it so you can go |
| 21:37.23 | Motive | alias create fireweapon @attach FireMedium Weapon |
| 21:37.26 | Motive | then just go "fireweapon" when you want it |
| 21:37.33 | rrowland | ah |
| 21:37.34 | Motive | so you only have to figure out how to do it once, then just save it to a bank |
| 21:37.44 | rrowland | Could you say like |
| 21:37.46 | mattavich-377 | Would anyone like to join a lobby for a brief test of Obelisk Hellfire? It is EU region mattavich 377 |
| 21:37.47 | Motive | if I can I want to make it so the bank can at least save all units positions, facing, etc. |
| 21:37.58 | rrowland | create lab_of_dead_people and have it recreate that whole lab |
| 21:38.17 | Motive | 2.0 adds a LOT of features, but not enough to move the spawner yet, no. |
| 21:38.46 | Motive | You'll be able to just use at most command per unit though to make the entire unit, with all the modifications it needs though |
| 21:38.56 | Motive | Like you can chain commands |
| 21:39.09 | Motive | @spawn marine; @renameall Ghost Marine; @scale 1.2; @tint 255 255 255 0.5; @color darkgrey; |
| 21:39.14 | Motive | and then alias that to "ghostmarine" |
| 21:39.19 | rrowland | ah |
| 21:39.22 | Motive | then you just type "ghostmarine" and get a ghostmarine with all those modifications |
| 21:39.25 | mattavich-377 | would anyone like to see what all the fuss is about? |
| 21:39.35 | pinzu | guys, can we move units in all axis? |
| 21:39.37 | rrowland | I don't hear a fuss |
| 21:39.47 | pinzu | like there rotation |
| 21:39.53 | pinzu | their* |
| 21:39.57 | mattavich-377 | not curious rrowland? :) |
| 21:40.02 | rrowland | Not on EU |
| 21:40.11 | Motive | I'm working on a lightweight scripting language for inside my engine though, to power all of this |
| 21:40.22 | Motive | It occured to me that @spawn could be made into a "function" that returns a unitgroup |
| 21:40.28 | mattavich-377 | guess enlightenment will pass you by then |
| 21:40.42 | pinzu | mattavich, im pretty bored and on ey |
| 21:40.43 | Motive | So that's the approach I'm taking. |
| 21:40.43 | mattavich-377 | Anyone on EU want a quick peek at a competition submission? |
| 21:40.43 | pinzu | eu* |
| 21:40.44 | rrowland | Yeah well we'll see when blizzcon rolls around |
| 21:40.47 | Motive | I already have it working so you can go like: |
| 21:40.53 | Motive | var marines = @spawn 12 marine; |
| 21:40.54 | mattavich-377 | great |
| 21:40.56 | Motive | @context marines; @color blue; |
| 21:40.59 | mattavich-377 | mattavich 377 |
| 21:41.03 | mattavich-377 | what's yours? |
| 21:41.08 | pinzu | Grumpa |
| 21:41.15 | rrowland | ah that's cool |
| 21:41.26 | rrowland | is there a variable limit then? |
| 21:41.27 | mattavich-377 | you can tell me what you think |
| 21:41.31 | mattavich-377 | number? |
| 21:41.36 | Motive | Nope |
| 21:41.38 | Motive | it uses the datatable |
| 21:41.43 | pinzu | 765 I belive |
| 21:41.45 | rrowland | nice |
| 21:41.51 | pinzu | havn't been doing much on bnet |
| 21:41.54 | Arthas- | hmm, you might just be able to modify blockable path during runtime |
| 21:41.55 | mattavich-377 | just waiting for map to upload |
| 21:41.58 | Arthas- | creating actors w blockers :D |
| 21:42.04 | rrowland | if 2 players use the same vars will it overwrite? |
| 21:42.07 | mattavich-377 | ok going in game |
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| 21:42.12 | Motive | Nope |
| 21:42.15 | Motive | variables are prefixed like |
| 21:42.24 | Malu05 | hi guys |
| 21:42.27 | Motive | variable_{playerid}_{name} |
| 21:42.30 | rrowland | nice |
| 21:42.37 | rrowland | hello malu |
| 21:42.45 | Motive | also maintaing a record of what type the variable is. |
| 21:42.58 | pinzu | msg me on IRC private when you're done |
| 21:43.01 | pinzu | so i hear* |
| 21:43.04 | Motive | prolly won't involve much work with math and the like, it'll be very very lightweight. but it's a start on something pretty cool |
| 21:43.07 | pinzu | oh ok |
| 21:43.32 | rrowland | Yeah, seems like a lot of work |
| 21:43.46 | Motive | Surprisingly not once you take the right approach |
| 21:44.15 | Motive | I mean it'll never support all the features of even a real scripting language but, it'll certainly be the first I think anyone's ever even attempted inside a Blizzard game. xD |
| 21:44.37 | mattavich-377 | pinzu i cant seem to add you grumpa 765 |
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| 21:44.45 | Malu05 | Better |
| 21:45.12 | mattavich-377 | malu05 are you EU? want to test my map very briefly? |
| 21:46.19 | Waterbottles | MALIBU!!! |
| 21:47.29 | Malu05 | Im eu yes |
| 21:48.08 | Sixen | hai mal |
| 21:48.14 | Motive | sixen :O |
| 21:48.18 | Klonkq | ok guys, i have a mine ability with 5 levels, placeholder unit only works for 3 first of the 5 levels, any ideas? |
| 21:48.18 | Sixen | hai motive |
| 21:48.21 | goomba_ | herro |
| 21:48.27 | Sixen | Motive, i'm just about ready to release the new MapCraft. |
| 21:48.31 | Klonkq | mine as in spider mine ability |
| 21:48.33 | Motive | People still use mapcraft? |
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| 21:48.34 | Motive | Holy shit. |
| 21:48.37 | Sixen | Who knows. |
| 21:48.45 | Motive | I already hit my 5/5 map cap though :( |
| 21:48.51 | Motive | So I might have to I suppose eventually use it |
| 21:48.51 | Motive | Haha |
| 21:49.00 | Sixen | But people can use it to test their map for the Blizz Contest without giving it out to the "public" |
| 21:49.03 | Sixen | map cap? |
| 21:49.04 | Motive | Ah true |
| 21:49.12 | Motive | Publishing limited to 5 maps, or 20 MB |
| 21:49.12 | Sixen | oh |
| 21:49.13 | Sixen | yeah |
| 21:49.13 | Motive | Whichever comes first |
| 21:49.14 | Motive | Yeah |
| 21:49.43 | Sixen | Trying to add the optional parameters, but Java's Layout Managers don't want to work with me. |
| 21:49.57 | Motive | Lol. Java is such a bitch. :( |
| 21:50.00 | Sixen | =| |
| 21:50.04 | Motive | Though! |
| 21:50.09 | Motive | Compared to Galaxy... |
| 21:50.10 | Sixen | I added replay functionalitt too |
| 21:50.13 | Motive | Nice |
| 21:50.17 | Klonkq | Anyone have any ideas? |
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| 21:50.28 | Motive | If I had OO syntax, writing CortexScript would be so much easier :[ |
| 21:50.33 | Driscoll | hey, in a custom settings map, how do you control the camera start location? |
| 21:50.41 | Sixen | Klonkq: I remember having this convo with someone... I thought it only worked up to 3 levels period? |
| 21:50.52 | Klonkq | that would suck so much |
| 21:50.55 | Sixen | =| |
| 21:51.03 | KiwiWarrior | i got a question, how would you make a Point on a map players had to control and it give him 20gas every 10mins or some think and how would you make it little bar on top showing when you contral dat land, but stop if there are emenys on around ?? |
| 21:51.04 | Klonkq | the placeholders only work for 3? |
| 21:51.24 | Motive | KiwiWarrior: The problem you have is you need to break down your problem. |
| 21:51.32 | Motive | You're looking at the big picture. Think smaller first. |
| 21:51.39 | Motive | You need to have a contested area of the map, right? |
| 21:51.40 | Sixen | I *believe* so, Klonk. |
| 21:51.45 | Motive | So step one, you need a region over that area. |
| 21:51.47 | Sixen | Ask on the forums imo, I don't remember how long ago I talked about this ;) |
| 21:51.52 | Motive | Now, you need to figure out who's "in control" of that region. |
| 21:51.54 | Klonkq | Driscoll, triggers |
| 21:52.02 | Motive | Fairly easy, figure out who has the most units in the region. |
| 21:52.04 | Motive | How do you do that? |
| 21:52.07 | Motive | Unit Groups! |
| 21:52.10 | Driscoll | okay, figured |
| 21:52.12 | Driscoll | thanks klonk |
| 21:52.16 | Driscoll | klonkq |
| 21:52.28 | Motive | So make a periodic event, say, every second, and compare who has the most units in the region |
| 21:52.51 | Motive | You have to break down the problem. There's no trigger that will do all of that for you. |
| 21:53.05 | KiwiWarrior | ok |
| 21:53.13 | Xackery | Sixen: You rock. |
| 21:53.45 | Driscoll | which camera action is the one i want? |
| 21:53.53 | Driscoll | to just center on a point in the map |
| 21:54.34 | Malu05 | Finally nailed it! freakin spend 2 hour now figuring how to get the position of a attachment point ingame. |
| 21:54.49 | Motive | Lots of catalog work? D: |
| 21:55.07 | Motive | Oh, speaking of which, does anyone have an idea of how I can get the actor ID of a unit? |
| 21:55.14 | Klonkq | Driscoll, i use zoom camera |
| 21:55.14 | Motive | In most cases it's the same, but there are a lot where it's not |
| 21:55.17 | Motive | Ex: KelMorianMiner |
| 21:55.21 | Klonkq | it does the job |
| 21:55.33 | Klonkq | havent looked at it any further |
| 21:55.34 | Sixen | :) |
| 21:55.39 | Driscoll | thanks again |
| 21:55.42 | Klonkq | np |
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| 21:57.36 | Driscoll | and a more general question, where is a good tutorial for getting into scripting? I looked recently and couldn't find anything helpful |
| 21:57.46 | Driscoll | i am a professional programmer already |
| 21:57.51 | Motive | Ever used C? |
| 21:57.52 | Driscoll | i just dont know how to start working with sc2 |
| 21:57.55 | Driscoll | yeah |
| 21:57.59 | Motive | Well, actually, better question |
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| 21:58.02 | Motive | GUI or Galaxy? |
| 21:58.10 | goomba_ | i am well versed in microsoft basic |
| 21:58.18 | Driscoll | i dont know what tha tmeans motive |
| 21:58.30 | mattavich-377 | anyone here on EU want to join a lobby for obelisk hellfire? |
| 21:58.30 | Motive | Galaxy = raw code behind SC2 map triggers. |
| 21:58.34 | Motive | It's an actual language. |
| 21:58.34 | mattavich-377 | mattavich 377 |
| 21:58.36 | Driscoll | yes galaxy |
| 21:58.38 | Motive | GUI constructs Galaxy using an XML format. |
| 21:58.40 | Motive | Ok well |
| 21:58.40 | Driscoll | yeah triggers i get |
| 21:58.42 | Motive | Galaxy is a lot like C |
| 21:58.46 | Driscoll | right |
| 21:58.48 | Motive | Just make a short test map saying "Hello world" in GUI |
| 21:58.51 | Motive | then go to Data -> View Script |
| 21:59.06 | Motive | then try modifying MapScript.galaxy a bit and reimport it to your map using an MPQ editor (or save it as a SC2ComponentList) |
| 21:59.09 | Motive | and just have fun with it like that. |
| 21:59.11 | Motive | That's basically how I learned. |
| 21:59.22 | Driscoll | cool man, thanks |
| 21:59.37 | pinzu | ... fun... thats a matter of oppinion ;] |
| 21:59.45 | Motive | Since you're a pro I doubt you'll have many problems. |
| 21:59.51 | Motive | Mostly just being frustrated at how awful Galaxy can be :P |
| 21:59.56 | Driscoll | hehe yeah |
| 22:00.05 | Driscoll | seems wierd that they went with something so strict |
| 22:00.18 | Driscoll | rather than something looser |
| 22:00.54 | pinzu | hmm I wonder if the "sport models" have animations ;d |
| 22:03.48 | goomba_ | sup programmer xD |
| 22:06.05 | Vulfe | what if nothing is up |
| 22:06.06 | Vulfe | then what |
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| 22:08.34 | pinzu | is there any way of chaning a unit rotation in the z axis? |
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| 22:09.27 | Driscoll | any idea on how to start a trigger based on units entering or leaving a bunker? |
| 22:10.19 | pinzu | isnt the the load unload bunker an ability? |
| 22:10.26 | pinzu | and if so, thats your way* |
| 22:10.26 | Driscoll | yep, that should do it |
| 22:10.39 | Driscoll | muchos gracias |
| 22:10.52 | pinzu | np |
| 22:11.55 | Driscoll | man, the best way to debug a trigger is by having it blow up a random unit |
| 22:12.09 | Driscoll | keeps things exciting |
| 22:14.56 | Waterbottles | FRIED THE LIGHTNING |
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| 22:18.38 | Error | how would I export my triggers and variables to another map? if it's possible |
| 22:18.42 | Driscoll | any ideas on letting a player control another player's unit, without having it change teams or actually get stolen? |
| 22:19.29 | Icebane | Does anyone here happen to know how to return "Kill Resource" aka "Bounty" by triggers or code? |
| 22:19.52 | Driscoll | you mean, give a player money when they kill something? |
| 22:20.54 | Icebane | @ Driscoll, yeah! |
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| 22:21.05 | Driscoll | make a trigger that goes of on "unit died |
| 22:21.10 | Driscoll | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.32 | Driscoll | and for the action, have it give money to the player that killed it |
| 22:21.40 | Icebane | I know, but still I dunno how to call for the amount gained when killing it. |
| 22:21.46 | Driscoll | let me look |
| 22:21.48 | Driscoll | one sec |
| 22:22.00 | Driscoll | you mean different amounts for different units? |
| 22:22.16 | Icebane | yepp! |
| 22:22.30 | Driscoll | i guess you could do some conditional stuff |
| 22:22.42 | Icebane | And also so that I don't have to declare for every unit type, instead I want it to call for how much "bounty" it gives. |
| 22:23.09 | Icebane | yeah I know that way but its a bit messy, there should be a better way |
| 22:23.12 | Driscoll | i wonder, can you add attributes to units in the data panel, like "mycustombountyamount" |
| 22:23.26 | Driscoll | if so, that's probably what you want, and then access it from the trigger |
| 22:23.45 | Icebane | You mean attributes as "attributes relating to how much damage a unit receives from certain attacks"? |
| 22:23.51 | Driscoll | yeah that sorta thing |
| 22:24.01 | Icebane | As far as I know, I have no idea. |
| 22:24.10 | Icebane | I've figured a way to edit the names tho. |
| 22:25.05 | Icebane | I'm still suprised they didn't implement a search function for the text editor, finding certain stuff is really a pain in the ass. |
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| 22:27.44 | RaydenUni | my leaderboard isn't working |
| 22:27.46 | RaydenUni | it shows all 3 teams |
| 22:27.54 | RaydenUni | but doesn't record for the last player |
| 22:27.54 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 22:28.00 | RaydenUni | because i'm using indices from 0-n |
| 22:28.04 | RaydenUni | and the player is outside of n |
| 22:28.14 | RaydenUni | foo |
| 22:31.55 | deathnight114 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cso1dSOP0UM - LOLOLOL |
| 22:33.27 | deathnight114 | Best commentary ever |
| 22:34.09 | Driscoll | which is idra |
| 22:35.18 | Icebane | HAHAHAH, lovely commentary <3 |
| 22:35.50 | Driscoll | caster sounds so much like patton oswald |
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| 22:36.37 | Icebane | I don't know who that is but he's awesome! xD |
| 22:37.45 | deathnight114 | it's cuz he's drunk LOL |
| 22:38.02 | RaydenUni | the announcer is drunk? |
| 22:38.09 | deathnight114 | read |
| 22:38.11 | deathnight114 | yes |
| 22:38.13 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 22:38.17 | deathnight114 | I found this on the starcraftarena forums |
| 22:38.26 | deathnight114 | and i believe idra is drunk too |
| 22:39.03 | RaydenUni | i thought he said idra isn't drunk, so if he loses he'll deserve the ridicule |
| 22:39.05 | RaydenUni | maybe it was someone else |
| 22:39.52 | deathnight114 | oh... |
| 22:39.56 | deathnight114 | no...? |
| 22:40.01 | deathnight114 | go back, machine isn't drunk |
| 22:40.45 | Icebane | Hahahaha, when I read "oh... no...?" the announcer said "Oh no"! xD |
| 22:41.31 | deathnight114 | XD |
| 22:43.20 | mattavich-377 | Can you save trigger in an array and use them in combination with "picked player"? |
| 22:43.22 | Driscoll | does incontrol do casts |
| 22:45.56 | Icebane | whos dat? =D |
| 22:46.08 | Arthas- | yaaay, ive come to the point in my map where i need to start with maps & loops \o/ |
| 22:46.12 | Arthas- | hyarion I choose you |
| 22:46.19 | RaydenUni | start with maps? |
| 22:46.21 | RaydenUni | like a hash map? |
| 22:46.29 | Icebane | maps and loops? ;o |
| 22:46.44 | Arthas- | I need to place beacons around my unit in a nice circle |
| 22:47.03 | Icebane | Of what reason? |
| 22:47.11 | Arthas- | for my map |
| 22:47.13 | Icebane | Heey, Arthas, didn't you use to hang around on helper.net? |
| 22:47.17 | Icebane | *facepalm* |
| 22:47.27 | Arthas- | those beacons are the places where you can move your units |
| 22:47.34 | Arthas- | Icebane not sure, long time ago then |
| 22:47.36 | Icebane | oooh! Cool! =) |
| 22:47.37 | Arthas- | I was around wc3c |
| 22:47.56 | Icebane | Oh, cause I think I've seen you before |
| 22:48.06 | Arthas- | your nick sounds familiar too so dito :D |
| 22:48.35 | Icebane | Really? lol, I used to lurk forums but I didn't make much of a sound xD |
| 22:49.21 | Arthas- | same :p |
| 22:49.26 | Arthas- | I mostly made noise in IRC |
| 22:49.34 | Arthas- | pretty much what I do here |
| 22:50.03 | Icebane | aye, me too |
| 22:50.26 | pinzu | how would I go about turning units in a Z axis? |
| 22:50.56 | Icebane | In a Z axis? elaborate plz |
| 22:51.05 | pinzu | like upside down |
| 22:51.19 | Icebane | Oh, wait someone solved that on the forums! Wait a sec. |
| 22:51.35 | pinzu | Intresting ;o |
| 22:52.06 | mattavich-377 | I just realised if you have a set of actions that is quite long which you HAVE to split up for each player then you can be really lazy |
| 22:52.13 | mattavich-377 | set them all to picked integer |
| 22:52.19 | mattavich-377 | and use "pick integer 1-1 |
| 22:52.22 | mattavich-377 | lol |
| 22:52.26 | Icebane | I'm not sure about this but, check this out http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/1816-flip-a-unit-onto-its-side/#p9 |
| 22:52.31 | mattavich-377 | pick eahc integer 2-2- |
| 22:52.34 | mattavich-377 | etc etc |
| 22:52.42 | Arthas- | anyone here good at making interfaces |
| 22:52.54 | Arthas- | http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=n34w33xyqjnhc06&thumb=6 |
| 22:53.34 | Arthas- | Should I push the two bottom ones into one does it look ok to keep info separate from buttons? |
| 22:53.35 | Icebane | mattavich-377: do you mean just to sort the trigger? |
| 22:53.58 | mattavich-377 | So you don't have to edit each action for every player |
| 22:54.05 | mattavich-377 | 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 etc |
| 22:54.16 | Icebane | Arthas-: why not mmerge them into just one dialog? |
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| 22:54.33 | Icebane | Why not just make the full loop? xD |
| 22:54.33 | mattavich-377 | just do one, picked integer |
| 22:54.45 | currydevil | Question: I've scaled down a hercules to 50%. How would I go about scaling the target thing for it's land ability and scaling down the required area for it to land? |
| 22:54.55 | Arthas- | Icebane thats what I thought of doing |
| 22:55.11 | Icebane | Arthas-: and that didnt work? |
| 22:55.16 | Arthas- | havent done it yet |
| 22:55.20 | Icebane | Arthas-: Cause it works fine for me |
| 22:55.28 | Arthas- | ya I can do it, just havent done it yet :D |
| 22:55.46 | Icebane | Arthas-: Oh I see! =) You're a bit new to triggers I guess? |
| 22:55.56 | Arthas- | In sc2 ya |
| 22:56.16 | Icebane | Arthas-: You did wc-edit? |
| 22:56.18 | Arthas- | yup |
| 22:56.34 | Arthas- | never released anything though |
| 22:57.17 | Icebane | currydevil: I'm not sure about this but check out the abilities "Validators", that could be it. |
| 22:57.17 | Arthas- | this im intending to finish |
| 22:57.28 | Xackery | I am trying to write a skill desription, and having issues making it be clear and simple. :/ |
| 22:57.36 | currydevil | icebane: ok, i was just thinking about those |
| 22:57.38 | Icebane | Arthas-: Lol neither did I, most project went to about 50-60% progress and then I put em on ice and stopped mapping for 2-3 months. And then I started with a new project. Repeat! |
| 22:57.48 | Arthas- | hehe |
| 22:58.00 | Arthas- | sounds familiar ^^ |
| 22:58.08 | Saucy | Ahaha i've done that many times as well :P |
| 22:58.28 | Arthas- | Icebane ever played heroes of might and magic? |
| 22:58.36 | Saucy | But recently I went back to 2 old projects! And... I'm actually getting them done |
| 22:58.39 | Icebane | Arthas-: If I have! :D |
| 22:58.40 | Arthas- | hotseat or over network/net? |
| 22:58.55 | Arthas- | Since this is more or less going to become a homm-style map |
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| 22:59.02 | Arthas- | should I limit it to two players? =p |
| 22:59.07 | Icebane | Arthas-: Mostly hotseat I guess |
| 22:59.10 | Arthas- | Ya |
| 22:59.21 | Arthas- | but then you know how much time a session takes for just two players :D |
| 22:59.25 | Icebane | Arthas-: Naah, I can't see why you should do that ^^ |
| 22:59.47 | Icebane | Arthas-: But go for a maximum, maybe 4 or 6 |
| 22:59.50 | deathnight114 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scMxevkIuH4&feature=watch_response 4:29 is the most epic thing you'll ever see |
| 22:59.52 | Arthas- | It would be interesting to draw the terrain on mapload |
| 23:00.03 | Arthas- | so you can generate random maps |
| 23:00.31 | currydevil | icebane: i can't seem to find any validators for the land ability. |
| 23:00.31 | Icebane | Arthas-: I've been thinking about that too, it really is a pain |
| 23:00.31 | Icebane | currydevil: gonna try sort it out |
| 23:00.44 | Arthas- | Ya, thats probably true :p |
| 23:00.51 | Driscoll | hey, where is the "attack" command in the "Unit - Order" action? |
| 23:01.05 | Driscoll | i want some units to attack move |
| 23:01.09 | Icebane | currydevil: I think I found it! |
| 23:01.27 | Arthas- | Driscoll |
| 23:01.37 | Driscoll | found it |
| 23:01.38 | currydevil | icebane: ok, the list comes up blank when i search validators for hercules, or land =| must not be using the right name |
| 23:01.43 | Arthas- | Unit - Order (Triggering unit) to ( Attack targeting Target Point) (Replace Existing Orders) |
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| 23:01.49 | Arthas- | you need to select one of the first ( |
| 23:01.50 | Driscoll | yep, i was gonna say that |
| 23:01.53 | Driscoll | thanks |
| 23:01.56 | Arthas- | :D |
| 23:01.57 | egodbout | yooo, alright |
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| 23:02.09 | Arthas- | seriously took me 30 mins to find that first time i was looking :p |
| 23:02.11 | egodbout | im getting late for blizzcon contest cause im stuck |
| 23:02.16 | egodbout | how can i |
| 23:02.19 | Icebane | currydevil: Go to the Ability "Hercules - Land" -> go to "Info+" in the field to the right and click the unit -> Edit "Info - Collision Range" |
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| 23:02.26 | Driscoll | already i'm sure this irc has saved me like a week of tinkering |
| 23:02.31 | Arthas- | Helral |
| 23:02.36 | egodbout | how can i put VARIABLE in text field in data editor and change them via triggers? |
| 23:02.44 | pinzu | Is there someplace where I can see all the customized edits done to a map and access them through there |
| 23:02.45 | pinzu | Ã
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| 23:02.46 | Arthas- | Have you looked at the possibility to generate terrain using triggers? |
| 23:02.46 | pinzu | ? |
| 23:03.31 | Helral | Arthas-: not really, I know you can create bumps in the terrain using actors, but haven't seen anything that creates really different stuff. |
| 23:03.31 | egodbout | how can i put VARIABLE in text field in data editor and change them via triggers? any idea, pst |
| 23:03.47 | Icebane | Arthas-: as far as I know you can't find actual orders in "Event Functions" you have to do that with conditions: "Triggering Condition" == Attack |
| 23:03.57 | Helral | egodbout: how do you want to use those texts? |
| 23:04.18 | Arthas- | Icebane? =O |
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| 23:04.42 | Arthas- | Helral ok |
| 23:04.47 | currydevil | Icebane: set collision range to 0. it didn't work |
| 23:04.52 | RaydenUni | how to test if a unit is a hero? |
| 23:05.07 | Icebane | Arthas-: Not the actual terrain, but I know simple ways to generate like landscapes using doodads |
| 23:05.43 | Arthas- | ((Unit type of (Triggering unit)) is Hero) == true |
| 23:05.49 | Arthas- | RaydenUni that was for you |
| 23:06.08 | Arthas- | Unit type classification check is the one you are after |
| 23:06.24 | Icebane | currydevil: Try to set the units collision to 0 |
| 23:06.40 | RaydenUni | ah |
| 23:06.40 | RaydenUni | thx |
| 23:06.49 | Arthas- | well, afaik we can place doodads using actors and we can modifiy terrain using them aswell |
| 23:07.04 | Arthas- | but making it look somewhat decent might be a pain |
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| 23:08.36 | Icebane | Arthas-: I'm sure I could do it. Would be VERY time consuming tho |
| 23:08.48 | mattavich-377 | has anyone figured out how to make wall doodads unpenatrable |
| 23:08.53 | mattavich-377 | because units can shoot hrough em |
| 23:09.10 | Arthas- | yup |
| 23:09.30 | Icebane | mattavich-377: Its doable to kill projectiles when they collide with doodads |
| 23:09.41 | mattavich-377 | what about marines? |
| 23:09.42 | Icebane | mattavich-377: but with attacks such ass the marine attack I dunno |
| 23:09.46 | mattavich-377 | =/ |
| 23:09.54 | mattavich-377 | they can even shoot through 4 levels of cliffs its daft |
| 23:10.35 | Icebane | mattavich-377: You could change all ranged weapons into projectile weapons but give marines invisible projectile with VERY high speed |
| 23:10.36 | egodbout | i think its possible icebane |
| 23:10.48 | Icebane | mattavich-377: that would do the trick |
| 23:11.23 | mattavich-377 | i have like 30 sets of units |
| 23:11.29 | mattavich-377 | too much work involved for that imo =/ |
| 23:11.35 | Icebane | egodbout: you mean the issue with marine attacks and doodads collision |
| 23:11.59 | Icebane | mattavich-377: I see your problem.. hmm |
| 23:12.16 | mattavich-377 | it is a blizzard map-wide problem so im not too bothered |
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| 23:12.29 | mattavich-377 | i cant be verbally attacked for such a bug really |
| 23:12.37 | mattavich-377 | it aint my fault! lol |
| 23:12.45 | Icebane | mattavich-377: what you could do is a trigger that checks whether there are doodads in between the unit and the target |
| 23:12.52 | Icebane | mattavich-377: maybe even with validators |
| 23:13.23 | mattavich-377 | ive not looked at validators before, only really started learnign data editor today |
| 23:13.26 | mattavich-377 | i will take a look |
| 23:13.30 | egodbout | Looking for a way to change the Unit Description info text via trigger, pst if you ahve any idea! |
| 23:13.36 | mattavich-377 | attack actor validators right? |
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| 23:15.07 | Icebane | mattavich-377: well, yeah the actor that is assigned to the projectile fired yes, aka Launch Missile |
| 23:15.43 | rooj | does anyone here understand how the viking morphing works? i still havent gotten my traps to work >_< |
| 23:15.48 | Icebane | Hey ego, you can change "Research Toolclip" by using triggers, I'm not really sure what that is but it could be worth a shot. |
| 23:15.52 | Waterbottles | G-UNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:16.32 | currydevil | Icebane: I can't find any collision to modify for the unit. i'm stumped. I think i'm going to not use the hercules and pass on the ability for my other ships to land if I can't change the size of it's landing check |
| 23:17.26 | Icebane | Collision is called "Radius", just go into Data -> Units -> "Your Unit" |
| 23:17.31 | Icebane | and search for "Radius" |
| 23:18.50 | Icebane | You could also go to "Unit - Flags" and turn of collision |
| 23:19.11 | rooj | ^ this seems related to the issue i'm having ;o |
| 23:19.54 | Icebane | rooj: speak up! |
| 23:20.02 | rooj | actually |
| 23:20.11 | rooj | i see no flag for collision |
| 23:20.28 | currydevil | flag for collision is already off, if it is the "always check collision" flag. only one i found |
| 23:20.47 | rooj | icebane, i am trying to create a trap that raises up off the ground, them slams back down and kills whatever is beneath it |
| 23:20.50 | currydevil | but trying the radius now. |
| 23:21.13 | rooj | i have created it, visually |
| 23:21.14 | egodbout | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/9266-urgent-how-to-put-variable-in-unit-info-text-like-this/ |
| 23:21.26 | Icebane | currydevil: you could also turn of its collision with triggers using "Set Unit State" |
| 23:21.30 | rooj | problem is, you cant walk underneath it even when it is raised |
| 23:21.42 | rooj | hmm set unit state |
| 23:22.04 | Icebane | rooj: heres what you can do rooj |
| 23:22.09 | egodbout | Looking for a way to change the Unit Description info text via trigger, pst if you ahve any idea! |
| 23:22.13 | arturusfury | egodbout: you should be able to use Catalog Set |
| 23:22.15 | mattavich-377 | anyone up for a quickt es tof my map? |
| 23:22.20 | mattavich-377 | obelisk hellfire |
| 23:22.24 | mattavich-377 | mattavich 377 EU |
| 23:22.44 | Icebane | rooj: create an ability that damages everything around the unit every 0.5 seconds for a certain area, lets say 1 radius. |
| 23:22.56 | rooj | icebane, i dont see a collision tag under the set unit states either o_O |
| 23:22.57 | arturusfury | egodbout: You're not changing the Unit Description as much as the button information for that Unit/Item |
| 23:23.02 | rooj | hmm |
| 23:23.04 | rooj | interesting |
| 23:23.12 | currydevil | Icebane: awesome, radius worked a ton. Now ... I couldn't seem to find this either, how would I go about scaling down the size of the image for the landing ability? =) it still shows a full size Herc when I am picking al ocation to land. |
| 23:24.15 | rooj | but icebane, units would still be getting hurt even when the trap is in the air |
| 23:24.16 | Icebane | rooj: hmm, neither can I, maybe my memory messed up, sorry my bad! |
| 23:24.41 | Icebane | rooj: No I think you can add a validator |
| 23:25.00 | rooj | oh dear i havent touched those yet ;x |
| 23:25.04 | rooj | lets look! |
| 23:26.04 | Icebane | rooj: try adding "Is Ground Unit" to the the "Set"-effects Validators |
| 23:26.59 | rooj | you lost me after is ground unit |
| 23:27.38 | Icebane | Okey, so you have this ability that deals damage to everything around 1 radius each 0.01 seconds. |
| 23:27.47 | rooj | okie |
| 23:28.13 | Icebane | It is divided with certain effects, persistent, search area, set and a damage effect. |
| 23:28.16 | Icebane | You still with me? |
| 23:28.30 | rooj | alrighty |
| 23:29.11 | Icebane | In the "Search Area" effect you can find a field called Validators, in that field you should add the validator "Is Ground Unit" |
| 23:29.50 | Icebane | currydevil: just look around in all the actors assigned to your unit and you will find it |
| 23:30.10 | rooj | well all units will be ground units |
| 23:30.14 | currydevil | Icebane: the unit or the ability? |
| 23:30.41 | currydevil | nvm no actors on the ability |
| 23:30.45 | Icebane | rooj: Oh waait! |
| 23:31.14 | Icebane | rooj: *facepalm* this is a bit messy but its surely doable |
| 23:31.20 | rooj | :P |
| 23:31.36 | Atlos | hey guys got another data editor question for ya |
| 23:31.39 | Arthas- | aight, time for me to sleep! |
| 23:31.40 | Icebane | rooj: try creating a validator that checks whether your unit is in the air or not |
| 23:31.44 | Arthas- | nn ppl |
| 23:31.47 | Icebane | Arthas-: Nn! :D |
| 23:32.00 | Icebane | currydevil: not sure but I think it would be the unit |
| 23:32.02 | Arthas|Zzz|thenW | that W stands for WORK :( |
| 23:32.12 | Atlos | basically I have overlords that spawn a spire underneathe them after 8 seconds and then they suicide, leaving just the spire |
| 23:32.22 | rooj | there are no aerial units in my map |
| 23:32.23 | Atlos | if there's already one there? |
| 23:32.28 | Atlos | I'm assuming a validator |
| 23:32.29 | Atlos | how would I make it so that it doesn't spawn the spire |
| 23:32.31 | Atlos | but they are confusing |
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| 23:32.39 | Icebane | rooj: well your "trap" is a unit right? |
| 23:32.44 | rooj | yep |
| 23:32.59 | rooj | the problem is |
| 23:33.15 | Icebane | Atlos: please explain a bit better, it was confusing :) |
| 23:33.18 | rooj | theres no way that i know to change the traps collision with triggers |
| 23:33.39 | Icebane | rooj: You don't need collision for it |
| 23:33.41 | rooj | if i set the trap to ground flag, then you cant walk under it, if i set it to flying, then you can walk thru it while its down |
| 23:33.55 | Atlos | ok |
| 23:34.01 | Atlos | so basically my overlords are "ladders" |
| 23:34.07 | Atlos | they move towards a point |
| 23:34.14 | Atlos | and when they reach the point I add a behavior to them |
| 23:34.16 | Atlos | at the end of that behavior, I call two effects |
| 23:34.33 | Atlos | one is a suicide to kill the overlord, and the other is a create unit to create a spire underneathe where the overlord was |
| 23:34.36 | Atlos | it works perfectly |
| 23:34.47 | Icebane | Buut? |
| 23:34.48 | Atlos | but I want it so the spire only spawns when there's not another one there |
| 23:34.50 | Atlos | I removed the footprint on the spire |
| 23:34.53 | Atlos | so they stack |
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| 23:35.49 | Helral | Atlos: you mean limit the amount of spires 1 player has to a certain amount? |
| 23:36.13 | Atlos | well yea pretty much |
| 23:36.24 | Atlos | figured there would be a validator I could create |
| 23:36.32 | Atlos | that would check if there's a spire already underneathe the overlord |
| 23:36.34 | Atlos | before it creates |
| 23:36.39 | Atlos | since the overlords are on fixed routes |
| 23:36.42 | Helral | check the validator/requirement for the mothership. you chould be able to use that one. |
| 23:36.58 | Helral | with some adjustments |
| 23:37.03 | Atlos | is that able to check for a specific region do you know? |
| 23:37.09 | Atlos | well radius from the overlord |
| 23:37.13 | Atlos | rather than entire map |
| 23:37.27 | Icebane | Atlos: checkout the unload ability maybe that will help you, cause that checks whether you can drop a unit on the ground or not |
| 23:37.29 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 23:37.59 | Atlos | ok |
| 23:38.13 | Helral | Atlos: maybe if you combine it with a search area. |
| 23:38.20 | Icebane | rooj: I dunno really ;o |
| 23:38.31 | Icebane | Helral: thats what I thought =) |
| 23:38.33 | Atlos | I found a validator type called placement location |
| 23:38.40 | Atlos | so I wasn't sure if maybe that's it |
| 23:38.42 | Atlos | I'll check the dropship |
| 23:39.06 | currydevil | Icebane: the only actor related to the landing ability on the Herc, is the landed vers of the Herc. I've changed all scaling values I could find, but to no avail. I think i'll pass on this one. thanks for the help :) Getting a headache trying to figure it out. lol |
| 23:40.26 | Icebane | currydevil: I've had a similiar problem which I haven't tried to fix yet, if you hang around here I'll report if if I succeed |
| 23:40.41 | Icebane | currydevil: and no problem man, ur welcome! =) |
| 23:40.59 | Icebane | Atlos: Just keep looking! :) |
| 23:41.04 | currydevil | icebane: alright, i'll prob be around for a while. I'll be finishing up the starting space station for my map |
| 23:41.08 | Atlos | hmm, not having much luck |
| 23:41.29 | Atlos | the dropships are considered a transport ability |
| 23:41.31 | Icebane | currydevil: alright, well I didn't mean like "today" xD maybe in the coming week haha |
| 23:41.33 | Atlos | and don't use a validator I don't think |
| 23:41.43 | currydevil | hah, alright, sounds good. |
| 23:41.47 | Icebane | Atlos: check its target filters |
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| 23:42.24 | Atlos | just visible is required |
| 23:44.24 | Icebane | Atlos: this was a hard one! |
| 23:44.56 | Atlos | I guess I could do it with triggers unless you've found a solution |
| 23:45.48 | Icebane | Atlos: I suggest you do it with triggers and keep on working and try to find another solution if triggres doesn't suit you :) |
| 23:46.03 | Suterusu | I think the search function needs to be larger on the forums |
| 23:46.08 | Suterusu | or a giant pop-up box |
| 23:46.15 | Suterusu | because few people seem to know how to use it |
| 23:46.24 | Suterusu | maybe a tutorial on using the search function? |
| 23:46.58 | Icebane | Suterusu: So true, I think I complained about that some time ago on the forums :P |
| 23:47.13 | Suterusu | check the tut boards |
| 23:47.13 | Atlos | there's a lot more important things to be fixed with the forums before that |
| 23:47.23 | Atlos | like being able to search a person's posts/topics |
| 23:47.25 | Suterusu | "Noob Editor looking for help!" |
| 23:47.44 | Atlos | this forum does have a good search engine though |
| 23:47.46 | Atlos | compared to most |
| 23:47.48 | Suterusu | Yeah, being able to find my own posts would be nice |
| 23:48.13 | Saucy | Tell me what u think guys... |
| 23:48.13 | Saucy | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/628072836 |
| 23:48.22 | Icebane | Atlos: yeah, the best forum if we're talking mechanics would be "The Helper.net" (if we look at mod-communities) ^^ |
| 23:48.29 | Icebane | That's a really nice search engine |
| 23:50.10 | Icebane | Saucy: about the Z axis I'm not with you, I'd rather want it sorted out aligned to the column to the left ^^ |
| 23:50.56 | Saucy | but the other things you think is a good idea? yes? |
| 23:51.12 | Komodo1138 | has anyone tried Helios's Super texture tutorial ? |
| 23:51.54 | Icebane | Saucy: tbh I couldn't be arsed reading it atm, I'm having a hard time editting my own map and answering questions at the same time xD |
| 23:52.10 | Saucy | ahaha kay :P |
| 23:52.19 | Icebane | Saucy: the pulldown functions seemed cool tho |
| 23:53.19 | xavierkress | Anyone having pathing issues with bridges and other mesh related things? Only way I've found to fix it is remove the bridge and just attach the land together. Any one been able to fix it? I've copied bridges that work fine and put them in the spot but still same issue... |
| 23:55.03 | xavierkress | Units seem to have to walk around an invisible line or blocked area. Have even tried to build the land under the bridge and then putting the bridge on top...no dice |
| 23:55.30 | Icebane | xavierkress: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/893-data-terrain-bridges-a-terrain-objects-and-footprints/ |
| 23:55.44 | Icebane | xavierkress: Use tha forumz 'mon! |
| 23:56.18 | xavierkress | I've tried to search couldn't find that one...but thx. Really I did |
| 23:56.36 | goomba_ | anyway way to add a random effect to the search effect of an attack? |
| 23:56.45 | goomba_ | if i wanted the aoe to be 2-4, ie |
| 23:59.17 | Icebane | xavierkress: alright then, ur welcum anyway! :D |
| 23:59.48 | Icebane | goomba_: I still havent figured how to add the "Random" function to a data editor. |
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| 23:59.55 | Icebane | the data editor* |
| 23:59.59 | goomba_ | theres a random field for damage |
