| 00:00.11 | Vail | what does it do double the rines range? |
| 00:00.28 | PapaRoach | nah it adds one |
| 00:00.31 | PapaRoach | but theres multiple |
| 00:00.37 | Vail | ah |
| 00:00.47 | PapaRoach | so my rines had 6 cuz i was making more bunkers and he had 10, so my mass units were useless |
| 00:03.36 | RaydenUni | RedWraith, anything else i have to change? the token is linked to the unit and the events use the unit's name |
| 00:03.46 | Tordecybombo | when are the new featured maps coming |
| 00:03.58 | Tordecybombo | wreent they supposed to be new ones yesterday |
| 00:04.21 | wOlfLinG | Ok, can anyone tell me whats wrong with this? http://pastebin.com/ZjAapBxy It's running correctly, but the variables aren't being set properly. I have a few debug triggers that are proving it :/ |
| 00:05.44 | wOlfLinG | It fail if it's not high enough, remove the list if its the correct number and copy the data in the record above if it's too high. It works, but doesn't copy :/ |
| 00:05.50 | Tinman | Xaragoth: Guess what I got in my e-mail ;) |
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| 00:06.16 | Tordecybombo | so is preventing resource distribution at player leave impossible |
| 00:06.29 | Tordecybombo | at least a more efficient way instead of checking every .1 seconds |
| 00:06.50 | RaydenUni | i can't get this item unit to show up properly at all |
| 00:07.25 | Tordecybombo | i dunno |
| 00:07.33 | Trager|546|US | we need 1 more for zone control |
| 00:07.34 | Trager|546|US | US |
| 00:08.24 | PapaRoach | Epic zone control game, need one more for full house. gonna be epic. get in fast. |
| 00:08.41 | Komodo1138 | i would play fuck i am f**king tired |
| 00:09.06 | Trager|546|US | he said FAST |
| 00:09.15 | PapaRoach | FAST! |
| 00:09.17 | Trager|546|US | Now is the the people! |
| 00:09.22 | Trager|546|US | the time* |
| 00:09.32 | Trager|546|US | I DONT HAVE TIME TO SPELL CORRECTLY |
| 00:09.40 | PapaRoach | YEAH " NOW IS THE THE PEOPLE" DUHHH |
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| 00:10.15 | wOlfLinG | O_o It seems to finally be working |
| 00:10.45 | Komodo1138 | fuck it i will play a round |
| 00:10.59 | pinzu | how to make it return nothing |
| 00:11.11 | pinzu | "expected a return value" |
| 00:11.12 | Trager|546|US | thank's komodo |
| 00:11.20 | pinzu | it is supposed to return in the if else statments |
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| 00:12.15 | pinzu | or... a function is destroyed after it returned a value? |
| 00:17.08 | Xackery | it's a sanity check |
| 00:17.15 | Xackery | you always have to end any function with a return |
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| 00:23.37 | Xackery | who you gonna call? |
| 00:23.39 | Xackery | ghost busters! |
| 00:25.53 | Xackery | What is a man? A miserale pile of secrets. |
| 00:26.24 | Cryosis | Have at you! |
| 00:26.57 | Xackery | :D |
| 00:27.07 | Cryosis | SO I gave up on my map today |
| 00:27.12 | Cryosis | in favor of a much better idea |
| 00:27.14 | HeyRevolver | sad |
| 00:27.37 | HeyRevolver | what syour better idea? |
| 00:27.43 | Cryosis | Ever play Metal Marines? |
| 00:27.47 | HeyRevolver | no |
| 00:27.51 | Cryosis | how old are you |
| 00:27.55 | HeyRevolver | 26 |
| 00:27.57 | Cryosis | oh |
| 00:27.59 | Cryosis | hmm |
| 00:28.01 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 00:28.11 | mattavich-377 | Anyone used starcode? |
| 00:28.38 | Xackery | lol |
| 00:28.38 | casperb | Just ask the question -.- |
| 00:28.51 | HeyRevolver | anyone want to help me test my map? |
| 00:29.03 | casperb | EU or US? |
| 00:29.06 | HeyRevolver | us |
| 00:29.09 | Xackery | HeyRevolver: , why not. |
| 00:29.16 | casperb | then can't |
| 00:29.20 | HeyRevolver | sweet |
| 00:29.24 | casperb | blizzard's awesome region locking ftw |
| 00:29.32 | HeyRevolver | yeah |
| 00:29.35 | HeyRevolver | fuckers |
| 00:29.42 | HeyRevolver | they are nationalists |
| 00:29.52 | HeyRevolver | or whatever the word is |
| 00:29.57 | HeyRevolver | because nationalist is not it |
| 00:31.38 | goomba_ | americuh |
| 00:31.41 | goomba_ | fuck yeah |
| 00:31.42 | pinzu | limitationalist |
| 00:31.43 | pinzu | s |
| 00:31.46 | goomba_ | gonna save the motherfuckin day, yeah |
| 00:31.51 | pinzu | =D |
| 00:32.50 | mattavich-377 | Map is getting t the point where i'm looking for anything else left to do |
| 00:33.13 | mattavich-377 | Need to do some more private testing, i'm sure there's more to do |
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| 00:33.25 | rooj | heh |
| 00:33.41 | rooj | duplicating object in data editor causes it to crash ;/ |
| 00:33.41 | pinzu | mattavich, is there such a point? i mean; the finnished state is a point which you cant reach it goes to infinity |
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| 00:34.02 | mattavich-377 | It can do |
| 00:34.05 | pinzu | ;o |
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| 00:34.16 | pinzu | no but seriously the stepps between start-and finnish |
| 00:34.20 | pinzu | becomes smaller and smaller |
| 00:34.22 | mattavich-377 | I've done everything i challenged myself to do |
| 00:34.30 | pinzu | but you will never reach finnished state in theory ;D |
| 00:34.49 | mattavich-377 | I haven't created an uberlisk yet |
| 00:34.50 | vxcriss | hey guys, is there any way to get the name that I set on a player slot instead of the player name? |
| 00:34.52 | mattavich-377 | maybe that is the next step |
| 00:34.56 | vxcriss | do I have to do this manually? |
| 00:34.58 | mattavich-377 | I want an uberlisk in my map |
| 00:34.59 | vxcriss | or is there any function |
| 00:35.11 | mattavich-377 | because people will say "this map is awesome, ecept there's no uberlisk" |
| 00:35.11 | pinzu | I bet there is |
| 00:35.32 | vxcriss | anyone? |
| 00:35.40 | mattavich-377 | not sure what you mean playerlsot |
| 00:35.42 | mattavich-377 | slot |
| 00:35.47 | vxcriss | you can name the player slots |
| 00:35.48 | pinzu | you could do |
| 00:35.49 | vxcriss | in the map settings |
| 00:35.53 | pinzu | name of player[number]? |
| 00:36.02 | vxcriss | that function returns the actual name of the player |
| 00:36.18 | mattavich-377 | lol at global suicide action |
| 00:36.24 | mattavich-377 | i'm looking for any cool actions |
| 00:36.26 | vxcriss | I will probably have to do this using an array and just do it manually, but was hoping for a function |
| 00:37.00 | FrozenFirebat | vxcriss: you don't want the name of the player? but like Player 1, Player 2, etc? |
| 00:37.21 | pinzu | but exacly are you using this for? |
| 00:37.22 | mattavich-377 | I think i'm going to use the global suicide action it sounds fun |
| 00:37.39 | vxcriss | frozen yes |
| 00:37.40 | PapaRoach | ima let you finish, but beyonece had one of the shittiest videos of all time |
| 00:37.42 | FrozenFirebat | GSA ftw? |
| 00:37.47 | vxcriss | by default it's player 1 and so on, but I changed them |
| 00:38.00 | vxcriss | so I actually have "alpha squad" "beta squad" "gamma squad" |
| 00:38.20 | pinzu | okey |
| 00:38.36 | pinzu | but in triggers they will be refered to as player 1 |
| 00:38.40 | pinzu | and called alpha squad |
| 00:38.46 | pinzu | if thats what you did to set it up |
| 00:38.56 | pinzu | (if i understood you correctly) |
| 00:40.11 | vxcriss | well, you referr to players by index number in triggers so it doesn't matter what name I gave them |
| 00:40.23 | vxcriss | anyway, I'll just do it with a custom function |
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| 00:40.50 | Komodo1138 | wishes for a way to import a height map for the terrain |
| 00:41.09 | vxcriss | here's an offtopic question, is there any way I can see the posts I made on the scmapster site forum? I kinda lost my own post |
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| 00:41.55 | Bobthenoob | how do i make a unit teleport after he kills a boss. |
| 00:42.08 | mattavich-377 | use the global suicide action |
| 00:42.17 | ZarafFaraz | event when a unit dies, condition that it's the boss, teleport unit to X location |
| 00:42.33 | pinzu | bobthenoob, what you seem to be looking for is the event, unit dies |
| 00:42.40 | pinzu | the condition triggeringunit = boss |
| 00:42.46 | Bobthenoob | k |
| 00:42.50 | pinzu | and a move unit instantly |
| 00:42.53 | pinzu | action |
| 00:42.58 | ZarafFaraz | thanks for repeating what I said pinzu ;) |
| 00:43.07 | rooj | what the...how come when you copy and paste a unit in the data editor, it doesnt even copy most of it? |
| 00:43.10 | pinzu | ahh shut up, its 3 in the morning ;d |
| 00:43.11 | casperb | Hmph what gives with everything in data gets freakishly weird names and ignore the names you give when campaign dependencies are included? :O |
| 00:43.27 | casperb | Pretty much everything gets suffixed with (Unnamed) |
| 00:44.18 | pinzu | anway, I just wanted to confuse him, couldn't let gim go off without being confused could we? |
| 00:44.31 | Bobthenoob | too late im allrdy confused |
| 00:44.40 | soundsnc | anyone know how to remove a tint from an actor? |
| 00:44.41 | pinzu | son, god dosn't forgive |
| 00:44.58 | rooj | i am having an issue creating units ;/ |
| 00:45.14 | pinzu | use the search function?;o |
| 00:45.42 | pinzu | o ye+ |
| 00:45.57 | Vail | any one here US and feel like helping ballance test a mod? |
| 00:49.41 | Vail | any one know what words i can use for my mods published name? |
| 00:50.31 | pinzu | umm, dosn't it say when the word isn't allowed? |
| 00:50.51 | casperb | Alot of stuff isn't allowed |
| 00:51.04 | casperb | Anything like war, battle, fight, etc is illegal :o |
| 00:51.09 | pinzu | but if it returns an error, go ahead and keep trying ;) |
| 00:51.37 | casperb | actually might have changed since we have nexus wars now |
| 00:51.38 | Vail | i am trying Melee mod 1 |
| 00:51.51 | Vail | and that isnt allowed |
| 00:52.06 | pinzu | yes blizzard figured that name is hidious |
| 00:52.14 | pinzu | and banned it |
| 00:52.21 | pinzu | as to encourage you to get a better name ;o |
| 00:52.30 | Vail | ive tried better names |
| 00:52.33 | AsaPhelps | creating units from scratch can be complex |
| 00:52.40 | Vail | they are all unacceptable |
| 00:54.02 | AsaPhelps | whats a good unit to have that shoots rocks |
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| 00:54.11 | AsaPhelps | trying to make something thats like a cannon |
| 00:54.16 | AsaPhelps | that shoots rocks for some reason |
| 00:54.28 | Cryosis | you could use the special ability for the infestor to spawn infested marines |
| 00:54.34 | Cryosis | shoots an arcing blob |
| 00:54.44 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/8990-data-multi-phase-spells-advanced-difficulty/ |
| 00:55.03 | AsaPhelps | PM, do you know of any way to have a unit with more than 4 command cards? |
| 00:55.15 | ProzaicMuze | Morphs |
| 00:55.22 | AsaPhelps | thats what I was thinking |
| 00:55.32 | ProzaicMuze | You can have one of the buttons suggest it's going to a new card |
| 00:55.41 | ProzaicMuze | But it actually model swaps to an identical unit with only a different ID |
| 00:55.57 | ProzaicMuze | Then when you click "cancel" it morphs back |
| 00:55.58 | AsaPhelps | oh geez after the first sentence of that tutorial my head asploded |
| 00:55.59 | ProzaicMuze | model swap = morph |
| 00:56.17 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 00:56.21 | ProzaicMuze | There is a reason it says "Advanced" ;) |
| 00:56.49 | AsaPhelps | maybe i'll stick to beginner stuff |
| 00:56.56 | rooj | lol |
| 00:56.57 | AsaPhelps | i just made a photon cannon right |
| 00:56.58 | AsaPhelps | but get this |
| 00:57.00 | AsaPhelps | it shoots rockets |
| 00:57.06 | rooj | awesome |
| 00:57.08 | rooj | i want it |
| 00:57.15 | AsaPhelps | it took me all day to make |
| 00:57.22 | mattavich-377 | Does anyone know a simple way I can add a subtle visual cue for units in a specific area are beging 2affected"? |
| 00:57.25 | mattavich-377 | in simple terms |
| 00:57.28 | AsaPhelps | actually i'm just kidding i just changed the model of the attack missile |
| 00:57.40 | mattavich-377 | i have an area that every 8 seconds adds a behaviour |
| 00:57.42 | AsaPhelps | add a glow |
| 00:57.47 | AsaPhelps | or something |
| 00:57.47 | mattavich-377 | i want some sort of glow ro something to show its working |
| 00:57.59 | rooj | i cant even add anything to a new unit i create ;x |
| 00:58.02 | AsaPhelps | make an actor and make it create on the unit when it has the behavior |
| 00:58.14 | mattavich-377 | Do you know of a good glow actor? |
| 00:58.20 | AsaPhelps | i like active crystals |
| 00:58.23 | AsaPhelps | or activate |
| 00:58.28 | AsaPhelps | something like that |
| 00:58.44 | AsaPhelps | so you can make a model, glowy glow glow glow mr glow |
| 00:58.51 | AsaPhelps | and give it that model |
| 00:59.02 | AsaPhelps | then make an actor called hey noob this area has radiation |
| 00:59.08 | AsaPhelps | with behavior called irridatated |
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| 00:59.22 | AsaPhelps | and then go to events+ and add behavior.irrdatated.on; create |
| 00:59.37 | mattavich-377 | I already apply a behaviour, i could add it to that behavior right? |
| 00:59.44 | AsaPhelps | yeah |
| 00:59.45 | mattavich-377 | active crystals seems good |
| 00:59.58 | AsaPhelps | i'm disappointed with the irridation model |
| 01:00.05 | AsaPhelps | looks like mucus or something to me |
| 01:00.16 | mattavich-377 | i shouldnt need to dupe that model should I? it can eb shared right? |
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| 01:02.03 | rooj | good grief theres a lot of data inside of a unit |
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| 01:03.17 | Cryosis | yes.. yes there is |
| 01:04.26 | rooj | wow this thing really doesnt want me to create a unit |
| 01:04.28 | rooj | it crashed again |
| 01:06.17 | AsaPhelps | pm are you still around? i have a [beginner] question |
| 01:07.21 | AsaPhelps | for some reason I can't attach my fire to my projectile, I tried actorcreation.photon cannon attack missile; create |
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| 01:09.34 | ProzaicMuze | Are you using Host and Host Site Operations? |
| 01:09.54 | mattavich-377 | that glowbuff works really well and looks good too |
| 01:10.11 | mattavich-377 | my only problem is it is not destroying. I can problably figure out the destroy p[art |
| 01:10.15 | mattavich-377 | but i want a small duration |
| 01:10.16 | Cryosis | Is there a way to introduce chance to hit? |
| 01:10.28 | mattavich-377 | How could I add a duration to the events+ for the glow? |
| 01:10.29 | wOlfLinG | So, anyone interested in seeing an alpha build of my quest log? It's pretty cool :) |
| 01:10.36 | ProzaicMuze | @Crysis there is with Behaviors |
| 01:10.41 | ProzaicMuze | or by using random on a Set |
| 01:10.42 | Cryosis | excellent |
| 01:10.56 | ProzaicMuze | Most effects will have a flag for random |
| 01:10.59 | ProzaicMuze | Or a field that mentions random |
| 01:11.07 | Cryosis | ok |
| 01:11.15 | Cryosis | is it possible to make a missile that works like a cruise missile? |
| 01:11.22 | ProzaicMuze | Not sure what you mean |
| 01:11.29 | ProzaicMuze | But look at ym Custom Projectiles tutorial |
| 01:11.32 | ProzaicMuze | it has custom movers |
| 01:11.35 | ProzaicMuze | Might have what you want in there. |
| 01:11.37 | Cryosis | launches, angles in a direction, then angles down and hits |
| 01:11.42 | ProzaicMuze | Yes |
| 01:11.48 | Cryosis | excellent.. |
| 01:11.54 | Cryosis | This can be done then! |
| 01:12.00 | ProzaicMuze | http://tinyurl.com/MoversAdv |
| 01:12.08 | mattavich-377 | Can anyone give me a quick pointer on how i can add a small duration to a glow event I created on a behaviour? |
| 01:12.43 | ProzaicMuze | Look at almost any of my tutorials that attaches a model to a unit |
| 01:12.56 | ProzaicMuze | Actor Creation > Animation play (Time Variant/Time Type) |
| 01:13.04 | ProzaicMuze | In the Actor's events |
| 01:13.14 | Cryosis | one last question |
| 01:13.23 | Cryosis | SC2 uses LOD right? |
| 01:13.27 | wOlfLinG | starts promoting his quest log library :D |
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| 01:13.43 | wOlfLinG | http://www.filefront.com/17232788/Quest-Log-Alpha.SC2Lib/ <- it's there. Download, and add to map NAO! >:( |
| 01:13.45 | Cryosis | I want to have a very far away view of the game (half teh side of the map) |
| 01:13.52 | mattavich-377 | Ah I've found it, i needed to change the drop down form create to animplay |
| 01:13.53 | Cryosis | it will be almost entirely buildings though |
| 01:14.39 | AsaPhelps | what do I need for the host and host site operations PM, might be the missile has no attachment point |
| 01:14.58 | molsterr | anyone have a link to a .dds extension for PS |
| 01:15.28 | ProzaicMuze | Make the host the missile's unit |
| 01:15.33 | ProzaicMuze | And see if that works |
| 01:15.54 | ProzaicMuze | Then make the create trigger off Unit Birth instead of Actor Creation |
| 01:16.32 | AsaPhelps | do all missiles have units? |
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| 01:16.56 | Vulfe | Hi |
| 01:17.03 | Vulfe | Apparently my best friend is ranked 3 in diamond now |
| 01:17.04 | Vulfe | that's cool |
| 01:17.26 | Vulfe | also |
| 01:17.27 | Vulfe | http://i37.tinypic.com/4sy4jp.jpg |
| 01:18.01 | Trager|546|US | Vulfe, I want to play your game |
| 01:18.03 | Trager|546|US | now |
| 01:18.07 | Vulfe | lol |
| 01:18.11 | Vulfe | okay |
| 01:18.20 | Vulfe | you can run around killing scientists and one group of enemies |
| 01:18.21 | Vulfe | rofl |
| 01:19.19 | Vulfe | although sniping the scientists is very satisfying.... |
| 01:19.43 | AsaPhelps | works now mr. pm, I just changed the attachment to the unit of the missile instead of the actor |
| 01:20.17 | mattavich-377 | I added the "create" part to the events+ and it creates the actor. Then I added another event which was the same but i selected "animation play" but even when i set the variant to like 2, it doesn't stop playing the animation |
| 01:20.20 | mattavich-377 | have i done it wrong? |
| 01:20.50 | ProzaicMuze | @Asa - yes all missiles have units (or should) and I figured that would work :) |
| 01:21.03 | AsaPhelps | my rocks are now on fire |
| 01:21.10 | AsaPhelps | featured, here i come |
| 01:21.15 | mattavich-377 | lol |
| 01:21.29 | AsaPhelps | i still can't think of a good unit to shoot rockets |
| 01:21.32 | AsaPhelps | i mean rocks |
| 01:21.33 | ProzaicMuze | @mattavich - you have to do Time Variant: SECONDS and Time Type: Duration |
| 01:21.44 | Xaragoth | AsaPhelps: Stone Zealots! |
| 01:21.49 | ProzaicMuze | Then you have to do Animation Done > Destroy |
| 01:21.54 | AsaPhelps | where would they shoot them from xar? |
| 01:21.55 | mattavich-377 | ah ok thanks |
| 01:22.04 | mattavich-377 | so i need to do like 0.1 for 1 game time second? |
| 01:22.12 | Xaragoth | he could throw them |
| 01:22.18 | ProzaicMuze | 1 is 1 game time second |
| 01:22.41 | mattavich-377 | Thanks i think that all sounds like it will work now |
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| 01:22.45 | ProzaicMuze | :) |
| 01:22.54 | dailo | hey guys |
| 01:23.14 | dailo | any creation of custom castle defence from wc3 to sc2? |
| 01:23.36 | AsaPhelps | how would you make him throw them xar |
| 01:24.09 | dailo | the only map im playing atm is art of defense by phx |
| 01:24.18 | dailo | i played a nice unique map calld haunted temple |
| 01:24.40 | Xaragoth | well, unique is relative |
| 01:24.44 | AsaPhelps | xar is that even possible to make him throw? |
| 01:24.47 | Xaragoth | uhm |
| 01:24.52 | Xaragoth | you could try to make a weapon |
| 01:24.56 | Xaragoth | with a rock |
| 01:25.00 | Xaragoth | and the starting point is his hand |
| 01:25.08 | AsaPhelps | maybe i can make raynor throw them instead of grenades |
| 01:25.18 | dailo | but the thing is why dont ppl ever make a reset button like enfos wc3 so ppl dont leave on short games and wait 4 a new room again |
| 01:25.32 | Xaragoth | because it won't bring you up in the list dailo |
| 01:25.47 | dailo | damn |
| 01:25.52 | Xaragoth | to get high up, it needs to be over fast enough to make 1k games |
| 01:26.07 | Xaragoth | at least |
| 01:26.10 | AsaPhelps | maybe a 1 player map with a 5 minute intro cutscene |
| 01:26.19 | dailo | what map u guys playing in sc2? |
| 01:26.31 | Xaragoth | unit test map is up top in eu *lol* |
| 01:26.37 | AsaPhelps | lol |
| 01:27.06 | AsaPhelps | if you give a |
| 01:27.09 | dailo | i alrdy noticed that sc2 would get better about a year later its released so the creators know how 2 develop their maps better |
| 01:27.18 | AsaPhelps | structure the model of a unit, how do you make it turn to face what it attacks? |
| 01:27.31 | ProzaicMuze | Or you can make a movie map |
| 01:27.36 | dailo | i only find art of defense worth playing atm its so sad |
| 01:27.39 | ProzaicMuze | Just one big cinematic that lags yoru computer to death |
| 01:27.40 | Xaragoth | asa |
| 01:27.45 | Xaragoth | maybe establish it as a turret? |
| 01:28.00 | Xaragoth | no idea, never tried that oO |
| 01:28.11 | Xaragoth | maybe take a look at the flame thrower towers |
| 01:28.13 | Xaragoth | they turn |
| 01:28.20 | AsaPhelps | perhaps xar, perhaps |
| 01:28.33 | AsaPhelps | i'm going to waste 4 hours to make one tower instead of working on gameplay |
| 01:28.41 | AsaPhelps | and people will be like whoa those rocks are on fire |
| 01:28.52 | mattavich-377 | i stillc ant get this thing to work - It is called "glowbuff" the behavior |
| 01:29.03 | mattavich-377 | behavior.glowbuff.on - create |
| 01:29.15 | AsaPhelps | what does it create |
| 01:29.18 | mattavich-377 | behavior.glowbuff.on - animplay |
| 01:29.24 | mattavich-377 | creates active minerals |
| 01:29.34 | Xaragoth | this is the 5th time sc2 crashed due to the 'Fringe' map |
| 01:29.35 | dailo | u guys need 2 ditch everything ur making and start making a custom castle defense from wc3. make walls, farms, and u gonna be famous !!! |
| 01:29.36 | AsaPhelps | are you doing it from the actor of the active minerals |
| 01:29.37 | mattavich-377 | animplay = 2.0 duration |
| 01:29.42 | Xaragoth | my guess: he fucked up bad |
| 01:29.49 | mattavich-377 | yes the actor plays |
| 01:29.55 | mattavich-377 | it just dosnt destroy afetr x time |
| 01:30.00 | mattavich-377 | then i finish with |
| 01:30.03 | AsaPhelps | timer expired |
| 01:30.04 | mattavich-377 | behavior.glowbuff.on - destroy |
| 01:30.05 | AsaPhelps | destroy |
| 01:30.13 | AsaPhelps | glowbuff on destroy? |
| 01:30.18 | mattavich-377 | is that right? |
| 01:30.36 | Vail | you want glow buff off -destroy i thinl |
| 01:30.37 | pinzu | hmm I should really start messing around with the data editor... ;o |
| 01:30.40 | Vail | think. |
| 01:30.42 | dailo | whoever made the map haunted temple is pretty damn good |
| 01:30.45 | AsaPhelps | you're creating it and destroying it when it has the buff |
| 01:30.49 | mattavich-377 | it houghgt that was what iw as doin -_- |
| 01:30.56 | Tinman | Xaragoth: We have no limit on the viewers anymore, I just had to try once ;) |
| 01:30.59 | mattavich-377 | so what did i do wrong? |
| 01:31.06 | Xaragoth | yeah, noticed |
| 01:31.09 | AsaPhelps | you could do timer expired destroy |
| 01:31.14 | Xaragoth | got my 7th time saying "no, you wont!" |
| 01:31.15 | Xaragoth | annoying |
| 01:31.16 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
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| 01:31.29 | Vitrify | anyone here? |
| 01:31.36 | dailo | im developing a map atm |
| 01:31.41 | mattavich-377 | So what do i need to change out of what i showed you? |
| 01:31.51 | Tinman | hehe, I am just influential |
| 01:32.15 | Vitrify | quick question, I can't figure out how to put the mineral/gas/time cost in the tooltips, anyone know how? |
| 01:32.19 | dailo | im currently transforming art of defense into custom castle defense |
| 01:32.21 | Vitrify | I've been looking for like 30 mins >.> |
| 01:32.46 | pinzu | could someone scan through my map |
| 01:32.54 | pinzu | or a part of a map and answer me |
| 01:33.00 | pinzu | why the word isnt found.. |
| 01:33.04 | Vulfe | http://i34.tinypic.com/2nkrij5.jpg http://i37.tinypic.com/s6613k.jpg |
| 01:33.06 | Vulfe | lol |
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| 01:33.16 | Vulfe | I made the button change! >.< |
| 01:33.23 | dailo | young wife |
| 01:33.27 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 01:33.32 | Chainclaw | hey, so I'm retarded. If I'm zerg playing against protoss, what unit counters stalkers? |
| 01:33.33 | mattavich-377 | Can anyone just tell me what i did wrong in those events? |
| 01:33.38 | AsaPhelps | i still don't understand how to make this unit rotate as a building |
| 01:33.54 | mattavich-377 | behavior.glowbuff.on - create |
| 01:33.55 | AsaPhelps | you just need an event |
| 01:33.56 | mattavich-377 | behavior.glowbuff.on - animplay |
| 01:33.58 | AsaPhelps | timer expired |
| 01:33.59 | dailo | if ur zerg playing stalkers |
| 01:34.01 | AsaPhelps | destroy |
| 01:34.01 | mattavich-377 | behavior.glowbuff.on - destroy |
| 01:34.02 | dailo | u need broodlords |
| 01:34.07 | Vitrify | so... anyone know how to put mineral/gas/time on tooltips? |
| 01:34.15 | AsaPhelps | doesn't make sense to have it create and destroy when its on |
| 01:34.19 | Tinman | roaches |
| 01:34.21 | Vitrify | for workers that are building |
| 01:34.31 | dailo | vitrify its .tooltips show all |
| 01:34.38 | vxcriss | I LUV U ALL!! |
| 01:34.43 | dailo | goood |
| 01:34.49 | vxcriss | don't mind me I'm tipsy |
| 01:34.53 | Chainclaw | thanks dailo. I don't know unit counters in SC2 very well yet, even though that's like the most important thing |
| 01:35.04 | dailo | np |
| 01:35.25 | Tinman | Chainclaw If you are ingame, you can click help, there you can find units, if you click a unit you can get a description of them and also a Weakness Strengths thing |
| 01:35.31 | mattavich-377 | Asa i've just adde dit now - Does it matter what order the events are in? |
| 01:35.38 | Chainclaw | thanks, Tinman |
| 01:35.51 | Tinman | anytime |
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| 01:36.00 | RoarMan | Heyyo |
| 01:36.01 | RoarMan | Lets go |
| 01:36.01 | RoarMan | :D |
| 01:36.09 | vxcriss | heya |
| 01:36.52 | Bobthenoob | is there a way to make a condition say like.. enemy=dead? |
| 01:37.23 | Vitrify | bob |
| 01:37.34 | mattavich-377 | ASA, that didn't work, the actor is still playing |
| 01:37.36 | Vitrify | you can do event- any unit dies |
| 01:37.42 | vxcriss | when I use player color, does "default" mean the color that's originally set to the slot? |
| 01:37.51 | Vitrify | conditions- owner of killing unit == whoever |
| 01:38.00 | AsaPhelps | wow |
| 01:38.04 | AsaPhelps | i just found the coolest thing ever |
| 01:38.22 | AsaPhelps | mattavich, try setting the actor as a one time spell fx |
| 01:38.24 | Vitrify | so, anybody know how to put time/gas/minerals in the tooltips when you have a worker building stuff? |
| 01:39.08 | AsaPhelps | i mean the model |
| 01:39.08 | Vitrify | anyone....? |
| 01:39.08 | vxcriss | Vitrify: data editor, show resource... |
| 01:39.08 | AsaPhelps | so if you give stone zealots the perdition weapon |
| 01:39.08 | vxcriss | or show cost I think |
| 01:39.08 | AsaPhelps | they shoot from their eyes |
| 01:39.21 | AsaPhelps | pure awesome. |
| 01:39.33 | Vitrify | im in data editor... show resource... is where? |
| 01:39.37 | vxcriss | it's going to be really cool if you find one that shoots from their asses :P |
| 01:40.13 | Vitrify | under flags? |
| 01:40.15 | mattavich-377 | There's nothing under flags or anything for one time spell fx under model |
| 01:40.24 | vxcriss | it's under the "COST" tab |
| 01:40.49 | vxcriss | if you have the editor set to NOT display table view (first tab on left) |
| 01:41.01 | vxcriss | there will be a cost tab, and there you'll find both the cost options and the display |
| 01:41.11 | vxcriss | but it really depends on what exactly you're modifying |
| 01:41.41 | pinzu | seriously |
| 01:41.47 | pinzu | why does it bug some times ;( |
| 01:42.21 | Vitrify | i see cost tab, i see cost display |
| 01:42.24 | Vitrify | enabling it does nothing |
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| 01:42.40 | Vitrify | i want it so that im building a supply depot it'll show how much it costs |
| 01:45.33 | Vulfe | How does Combine Text Multiple work? |
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| 01:47.16 | vxcriss | Vitrify: where do you have the build ability set? did you modify the build ability and/or the command button? |
| 01:47.38 | Vitrify | nope |
| 01:47.42 | Vitrify | its SCV-Build(SCV) |
| 01:47.45 | vxcriss | if you modify the cost from the data editor it should show up automatically, unless you messed around with the buttons and stuff |
| 01:47.51 | pinzu | help! |
| 01:47.52 | mattavich-377 | omg it still wotn destroy after duration |
| 01:47.57 | mattavich-377 | can someone pelase help? |
| 01:48.02 | pinzu | im bug checking but still |
| 01:48.06 | Vitrify | ehhh |
| 01:48.09 | pinzu | can't figure it out |
| 01:48.09 | Vitrify | thanks for trying |
| 01:48.15 | Vitrify | i'll figure it out |
| 01:48.16 | Vitrify | eventually |
| 01:48.18 | pinzu | the setup works properly |
| 01:48.26 | vxcriss | :| |
| 01:48.33 | pinzu | but sometimes |
| 01:48.37 | pinzu | 1 unit |
| 01:48.46 | pinzu | dosnt get registrated or something |
| 01:48.55 | vxcriss | Vulfe: you just use "new parameter" option to add multiple pieces that get concatenated in order |
| 01:49.00 | Vulfe | Yeah |
| 01:49.01 | Vulfe | I got it now |
| 01:49.03 | Vulfe | thanks tho |
| 01:49.15 | ProzaicMuze | Gah |
| 01:49.17 | ProzaicMuze | stupid mail |
| 01:49.18 | vxcriss | I was going to ask my own question but I forgot lol |
| 01:49.29 | ProzaicMuze | How am I s'posed to frivolously throw away my money if it doesn't arrive in the mail!? |
| 01:51.00 | vxcriss | I can give you my paypal addres if you want |
| 01:51.05 | vxcriss | will send thanks by mail if you want |
| 01:51.53 | pinzu | I need a life saver:http://uploading.com/files/9db94d1d/qwerty-1%2Bv0.17test.SC2Map/ |
| 01:52.04 | pinzu | or someone to talk to |
| 01:52.10 | pinzu | it helps* ;) |
| 01:52.19 | vxcriss | oh, I remembered my question, I'm trying to display a message for the viewing player only, is there any way to get "this player" or something |
| 01:52.40 | vxcriss | actually, wrong way of putting it |
| 01:53.10 | vxcriss | I need to tell each player, "hey your name is <thisPlayer>" |
| 01:53.29 | mattavich-377 | Hey fellas - I have a behavior create event and a destroy event |
| 01:53.34 | mattavich-377 | how do i create a duration for the anim? |
| 01:53.39 | Vitrify | vxcriss: UI - Display "You have rescued some mice, here is..." for (Player group((Triggering player))) to Subtitle area |
| 01:53.41 | mattavich-377 | because i cant get it to work |
| 01:53.47 | mattavich-377 | surely one fo you know? |
| 01:53.53 | Vitrify | from cat/mouse game |
| 01:53.56 | vxcriss | ye but... there's no triggering player |
| 01:54.08 | vxcriss | cause there's no trigger, this is something that happens on map init |
| 01:54.10 | pinzu | someone please download the linked file |
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| 01:54.37 | mattavich-377 | Can anyone tell me how to add a duration to an actors events? |
| 01:54.47 | rooj | can anyone stab me in the face |
| 01:54.47 | mattavich-377 | to go inbetween create and destroy? |
| 01:54.52 | rooj | pleaseeeeeeeeeee |
| 01:55.17 | Vitrify | argh |
| 01:55.21 | Vitrify | this is too different from warcraft |
| 01:55.22 | Vitrify | =/ |
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| 01:55.25 | vxcriss | act nvm I'm stupid, just figured out I just need to loop through all the players and send each one a message ... |
| 01:55.25 | Vitrify | takes getting used to |
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| 01:55.41 | mattavich-377 | Can anyone tell me how to add a duration to an actors events? |
| 01:55.58 | vxcriss | sorry got no experience with actors |
| 01:56.11 | Vail | i dont have much experience with them either |
| 01:57.05 | Vail | but i will try to help |
| 01:57.12 | Vail | what do you want to see happen? |
| 01:57.42 | mattavich-377 | it already works |
| 01:57.48 | mattavich-377 | it just doesnt end after a duration |
| 01:58.21 | mattavich-377 | behavior.glowbuff.on - create |
| 01:58.28 | mattavich-377 | behavior.glowbuff.on - cdestroy |
| 01:58.41 | mattavich-377 | glowbuff = my behavior with the glow model |
| 01:58.57 | mattavich-377 | inebtween iw as advised that "animationplay" would work |
| 01:59.04 | mattavich-377 | but i cant seem to get it to work |
| 01:59.10 | mattavich-377 | someone said timer expired too |
| 01:59.14 | mattavich-377 | but no one really explained -_- |
| 01:59.21 | mattavich-377 | im sure its very simple |
| 01:59.26 | casperb | make the behaviour expire instead? |
| 01:59.35 | casperb | or just want a one shot animation to play? |
| 01:59.38 | mattavich-377 | How do i do that? |
| 01:59.46 | mattavich-377 | yeha a one shot will dof or say 1 second |
| 02:00.12 | casperb | what does the behaviour do tho? |
| 02:00.32 | mattavich-377 | nothing except use the actor to greate the glow |
| 02:00.46 | casperb | then you might aswell change the unit actor :p |
| 02:00.50 | Cryosis | units can be made from multiple models correct? |
| 02:01.03 | Cryosis | for example I could take 2 models to use for a structure? |
| 02:01.17 | casperb | Cryosis: units support variations yes, none was implemented in beta however so don't know how :) |
| 02:01.32 | Cryosis | I meant combining |
| 02:01.50 | mattavich-377 | I have a region - when units are in this region they recieved a buff every 8 seconds |
| 02:01.56 | mattavich-377 | i want a visual cue, hence the glow |
| 02:02.39 | mattavich-377 | I think all i need is for the glow to destroy after a second |
| 02:03.00 | mattavich-377 | how do i add duration to events+ because it doesnt seem to work |
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| 02:05.30 | casperb | you don't |
| 02:05.39 | casperb | events happend as they happend |
| 02:05.51 | casperb | you can set the timing of the animation |
| 02:06.09 | mattavich-377 | how do i do that? |
| 02:06.21 | mattavich-377 | well, how can i make this animation play fro 1 second? |
| 02:06.28 | casperb | forums ftw, can't remember the exact actor message |
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| 02:06.41 | casperb | but it's something like animation play <duration> |
| 02:06.47 | casperb | timescale * |
| 02:07.06 | mattavich-377 | in events+ that's what im using but its not working. im not doing it right |
| 02:07.10 | mattavich-377 | all tutorials dont say |
| 02:07.13 | mattavich-377 | forums dont say |
| 02:07.17 | mattavich-377 | i think its somethign simple too |
| 02:07.44 | Vail | why do you have it Behavior.glowbuff.on - destroy? |
| 02:07.56 | mattavich-377 | i was told that would destroy it |
| 02:08.00 | mattavich-377 | is ti right> |
| 02:08.04 | mattavich-377 | is it right? |
| 02:09.31 | Vail | you would want it to be Behavoir.glowbuff.off to destroy it when the behavoir is off and ... you would want Behavior.glowbuff.on - timer set (amount) ( name) and Time Expired -destroy |
| 02:10.25 | Vail | but as long as the buff is on the actor will not be destroyed because it will imediately be respawned |
| 02:13.27 | mattavich-377 | Behavior.glowbuff.On - Create |
| 02:13.30 | mattavich-377 | Behavior.glowbuff.On - TimerSet 1.000000 glowtimer |
| 02:13.34 | mattavich-377 | Timerexpired.MinersalCrystalGlow2 - Destroy |
| 02:13.37 | mattavich-377 | This si what i have now |
| 02:13.40 | mattavich-377 | will this work? |
| 02:13.53 | mattavich-377 | You said I need .off somewhere but wasnt sure where |
| 02:14.57 | Vail | you only need it if you want the glow to turn off when the behavior turns off |
| 02:15.20 | mattavich-377 | Ah, it worked perfect except for one thing |
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| 02:15.33 | mattavich-377 | when the behavior was applied a second time it didnt glow |
| 02:16.02 | mattavich-377 | So it is doing what it is supposed to but this time not palying because theres already a behavior on it |
| 02:16.07 | mattavich-377 | maybe i need to set it to stack |
| 02:16.19 | Vail | no you need to turn off the behavior |
| 02:16.38 | Bobthenoob | ok.. im confused on trying to make a teleport after a boss is killed. basically create a large beacon image and also the teleport.. |
| 02:16.52 | Vail | if all it does is allow for the glow then all you need to do is give it a duration of .5 |
| 02:18.02 | mattavich-377 | even with .5 duration, it wont glow a second time for .5 |
| 02:19.13 | Bobthenoob | i can get the large beacon to come up.. but having problems with the teleport to come after the death of the boss. |
| 02:19.33 | Vail | if half a second is too long try smaller |
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| 02:21.15 | Vail | my question is why do you want it to last for a second then be destroyed if you care going to be constantly recreating it? |
| 02:21.28 | mattavich-377 | all it does is make my unit glow |
| 02:21.42 | mattavich-377 | so when they enter a region i have a periodic event that adds the behavior to all units |
| 02:21.47 | mattavich-377 | and they glow for a second |
| 02:21.50 | pinzu | I think I found the bug! |
| 02:21.50 | mattavich-377 | a visual cue |
| 02:21.55 | AsaPhelps | what property of perdition turrets allow them to rotate? |
| 02:22.10 | pinzu | but I dont know |
| 02:22.17 | pinzu | how to fix it ;d |
| 02:22.17 | Vail | turret i believe Asa but i may be wrongt |
| 02:22.23 | pinzu | can show you what I want thought |
| 02:23.18 | Vail | mattavich-377: ah i see well i dont know how to do what you want exactly but i hope you can get it figured out like you need it |
| 02:24.11 | mattavich-377 | Thanks vail |
| 02:24.19 | Vail | welcome |
| 02:24.46 | mattavich-377 | you solved the problem i had which is durations |
| 02:24.56 | Vail | ah |
| 02:25.01 | mattavich-377 | I just need to either, remove the behavior or flag somehting that stops the anim palying twice |
| 02:25.02 | Vulfe | http://pastebin.com/k11Eu3pK |
| 02:25.02 | Vulfe | rofl |
| 02:25.04 | Vulfe | that's one line |
| 02:25.07 | Vulfe | in this trigger |
| 02:25.09 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 02:25.50 | Xackery | dialogs are silly |
| 02:25.58 | Xackery | just give me bash |
| 02:26.20 | AsaPhelps | xack, just the man I wanted to see |
| 02:26.28 | Xackery | I am THE MAN |
| 02:26.35 | Xackery | You hear this?! the man! |
| 02:26.42 | Xackery | Big brother is watching. |
| 02:27.00 | Xackery | What's up AsaPhelps |
| 02:27.05 | pinzu | lol, likewise ;D |
| 02:27.26 | pinzu | need to ask you about your "collapse pool" |
| 02:27.35 | pinzu | as I have two new values to collapse |
| 02:27.43 | AsaPhelps | I want to make my stone zealot tower rotate like how perdition flame turret does |
| 02:27.46 | Xackery | You still haven't figured out how that code works? |
| 02:27.52 | AsaPhelps | but even if I just change the model of the perdition turret, he doesn't |
| 02:27.53 | Xackery | :| |
| 02:27.54 | pinzu | well mostly |
| 02:28.05 | pinzu | but not when I need unit(x) custom value |
| 02:28.10 | pinzu | and change it to the next ;o |
| 02:28.17 | Xackery | let's take a peek Asapppppp |
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| 02:29.43 | AsaPhelps | also giving the stone zealot perdition's weapon is awesome |
| 02:29.46 | AsaPhelps | the fire shoots out his eyes |
| 02:29.48 | Xackery | What makes the Perdition Turret rotate is the Turret attached to it's weapon. The rotation while idle flag is set inside the Turret Tab itself |
| 02:30.07 | AsaPhelps | so why doesn't he rotate when all I do is change the model of the perdition turret? |
| 02:30.28 | Xackery | What are you expecting to rotate? |
| 02:30.31 | Xackery | His head? |
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| 02:30.42 | Labmonkey2 | does anyone have sc2 trial keys a friend of mine can use? |
| 02:30.47 | AsaPhelps | his body |
| 02:30.50 | Labmonkey2 | I got mine digital download, so I didn't get them |
| 02:30.56 | AsaPhelps | instead of shooting it behind him |
| 02:31.25 | mattavich-377 | Fixed my problem |
| 02:31.27 | mattavich-377 | simple as pie |
| 02:32.04 | mattavich-377 | Would anyone like to see what all the fuss was about in my map? :) |
| 02:33.02 | rooj | xackery |
| 02:33.03 | mattavich-377 | I'm going to do a quick test run if you're interested, my map Obelisk Hellfire is probably complete |
| 02:33.11 | Xackery | moo |
| 02:33.14 | AsaPhelps | i need to fix this xack |
| 02:33.16 | rooj | IM |
| 02:33.18 | AsaPhelps | or else |
| 02:33.51 | Xackery | I want strip dancing! |
| 02:33.53 | Xackery | webcam show! |
| 02:33.56 | Xackery | :P |
| 02:34.07 | AsaPhelps | if you can figure out how to get this to work I will strip for you |
| 02:34.15 | Xackery | I'm talking to you pinzu. Not AsaPhelps. |
| 02:34.25 | pinzu | lol ;p |
| 02:34.26 | DarkRevenant | hmm |
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| 02:34.44 | pinzu | well, when you've helped both of us |
| 02:34.46 | Xackery | Anyways, gimme a few everyone asking Q's. |
| 02:34.57 | pinzu | we will meet up me and asap |
| 02:35.05 | pinzu | and have a stripcast |
| 02:35.08 | AsaPhelps | i'll make pin strip |
| 02:35.12 | DarkRevenant | I'm not sure Saelis is going to like my review very much :p |
| 02:35.19 | rooj | ok, i am trying to turn a doodad into a unit since i cant seem to change doodads with triggers (i need to change the height and let the doodad kill units) |
| 02:35.25 | DarkRevenant | I need a day to collect my thoughts this time |
| 02:35.46 | DarkRevenant | my bias is shining like an ugly beacon whenever I think of something to write about it |
| 02:35.51 | Bobthenoob | ok.. i'm trying to make a teleport after a boss.. here is the problem... i want to set a teleport location after the boss dies.. how would i go about setting a condition for that |
| 02:35.51 | Xackery | So, AsaPhelps. You want Stone statue to spin while idle? |
| 02:36.47 | vxcriss | does anyone know what this default/current option mean on player color? |
| 02:36.47 | AsaPhelps | I want it to spin to face what it attacks |
| 02:37.06 | vxcriss | I'm suspecting one of them is the color that the slot has and one is the color that the player sets in lobby? |
| 02:37.32 | rooj | i got the unit to show up in the list, but apparently the unit has no model X_X |
| 02:38.03 | Bobthenoob | man i swear these little things can piss you off lol |
| 02:38.16 | rooj | yep |
| 02:38.22 | rooj | ive been stuck on the same thing for hours, lol |
| 02:38.55 | vxcriss | you can change doodads with triggers, to a certain measure |
| 02:39.04 | vxcriss | I have 2 doodad doors that I operate with triggers |
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| 02:39.24 | rooj | i didnt see a way to adjust doodad height |
| 02:39.37 | vxcriss | but if you want to turn a doodad into a unit I guess you just need to replace the unit's actor with the one of your doodad |
| 02:40.16 | rooj | well thats the thing |
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| 02:40.29 | rooj | under the unit information, i dont see anyhwere to link it to the actor or the model |
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| 02:40.35 | rooj | but i did make the actor |
| 02:40.44 | Labmonkey2 | can someone here help me out, my friend needs trial sc2 keys |
| 02:40.49 | rooj | and in the actor i did edit unitName |
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| 02:40.57 | Bobthenoob | anyone good with setting teleport conditions? |
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| 02:41.17 | vxcriss | I'm not 100% sure of what I'm saying but you can make changes to the actor by using the Actor - Send Message option |
| 02:41.19 | vxcriss | action I mean |
| 02:41.36 | vxcriss | I think there's a "position (height)" message too |
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| 02:41.45 | ZarafFaraz | anyone else having trouble with the sc2mapster forums? not seeming to load for me |
| 02:41.46 | []pc | hi |
| 02:42.00 | vxcriss | prolly heavy load, keep trying :) |
| 02:42.09 | []pc | when we play a custom map on battle net, di you know where is the downloaded map on the hard drive? |
| 02:42.23 | Zaraf | some obscure temp folder |
| 02:42.26 | []pc | i dont find them |
| 02:42.32 | vxcriss | Bobthenoob: what conditions you need? |
| 02:42.35 | Zaraf | but apparently those files are encrypted as well |
| 02:42.45 | Zaraf | so there's really no point in looking for them |
| 02:42.54 | vxcriss | pc wants to hack maps :P |
| 02:43.04 | Zaraf | you CAN open any unlocked maps you've played recently or from bnet by opening them in your editor |
| 02:43.11 | []pc | to see the script |
| 02:43.13 | Zaraf | just open the editor, and click on Open, and login to your bnet account |
| 02:43.23 | Zaraf | and then it will bring up the list of maps you can open |
| 02:44.29 | pinzu | @ xackery, could one not just replace word cur max with the removing units stats? |
| 02:45.31 | Xackery | @ AsaPhelps: http://a.imageshack.us/img707/8144/boohx.png |
| 02:46.03 | AsaPhelps | @Xackery, so I just do that? |
| 02:46.08 | Xackery | Read the tooltip |
| 02:46.14 | Xackery | last sentence |
| 02:46.47 | mattavich-377 | It seems as though adding damage to a units attack will also icnrease ability damage |
| 02:46.56 | mattavich-377 | that kinda sucks for my map |
| 02:46.59 | mattavich-377 | might need to fix that |
| 02:47.05 | vxcriss | AH, I found out what the default/current player colors are, default is the original value (before you change it from player properties) |
| 02:47.11 | Bobthenoob | ok.. i'm trying to make a teleport after a boss dies.. here is the problem.. how would i go about setting a condition for that |
| 02:47.13 | Xackery | To do the turret spin function, they utilize a special bone inside the model to make it work. |
| 02:47.51 | Xackery | There may be another method to do it |
| 02:47.59 | vxcriss | Bob: set the trigger with an event "any unit dies" then set a condition triggering unit = to that specific unit (your boss) |
| 02:48.01 | Xackery | but as a turret, doubt it'll work due to that criteria |
| 02:48.30 | Vail | i cant believe this worked against the ai |
| 02:48.34 | vxcriss | then you do a unit-move (instant) action on whatever unit you want to teleport |
| 02:48.58 | []pc | Zaraf , i fond "recently played" but there isnt the custom maps |
| 02:49.04 | []pc | found |
| 02:50.15 | Bobthenoob | what fuction do you need to set the condition for boss |
| 02:50.16 | []pc | i find somethink.. |
| 02:50.32 | Xackery | @ AsaPhelps Are you turning the statue into a turret? |
| 02:50.48 | AsaPhelps | I just want him to face what he attacks :( |
| 02:50.51 | vxcriss | there's no function the boss is a simple unit like all the others |
| 02:50.57 | Cryosis | any way to force a specific model variation on an actor when spawning? |
| 02:51.03 | vxcriss | so you just use the unit conditions |
| 02:51.16 | Xaragoth | Bobthenoob: How about just teleporting everyone after the boss has died? |
| 02:51.34 | Xaragoth | just use unit died |
| 02:51.38 | Xackery | AsaPhelps: doesn't he do that by default? |
| 02:51.43 | Xaragoth | or, if you want to make it with any unit |
| 02:51.49 | Xaragoth | the condition would be unit type of unit |
| 02:51.57 | Xaragoth | and just set it to your boss guy |
| 02:52.28 | Xackery | stone zealot by default will face it's target when it attacks. XD |
| 02:52.33 | []pc | i dont find it :( |
| 02:52.34 | mattavich-377 | Guys, you know the damage - kind field in effects |
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| 02:52.51 | mattavich-377 | that doesn't actually mean anything other than a strong which identifies the damage kind right? |
| 02:53.03 | mattavich-377 | so if you switch a damage from spell tor anged of viseversa |
| 02:53.09 | mattavich-377 | it doesnt have any actual effect? |
| 02:53.24 | Blobfish | is it possible to create a unit inside of a transport? |
| 02:53.25 | mattavich-377 | you could switch a splash to melee and it will still splash right? |
| 02:53.57 | Blobfish | as in, train a marine and have it appear inside of a bunker instead of on the ground |
| 02:54.23 | AsaPhelps | well its a structure though xack |
| 02:54.31 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/9000-data-working-with-turrets-beginner-difficulty/ |
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| 02:54.35 | AsaPhelps | I suppose I could just remove its mover though right? |
| 02:54.48 | AsaPhelps | oh geez beginner, I feel like a noob now |
| 02:55.47 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 02:56.13 | []pc | maybe lockeds maps dont appear |
| 02:56.30 | Vail | instead of the normal muta harass of the mineral line i sent an overlord and a queen over with seven mutas the mutas kept the army busy long enough to creep tumor the mineral line |
| 02:56.41 | Lilianna | Yay buildings with lasers! |
| 02:57.01 | Vail | with my mod the creep did the rest and took out the probes and the nexus |
| 02:57.18 | Vail | i wiped out almost the entire base with creep |
| 02:57.22 | AsaPhelps | is everything in your map going to shoot lasers lili? |
| 02:57.46 | ProzaicMuze | I think Lily has a pewpew fettish >:D |
| 02:57.56 | Lilianna | Lasers make me hot |
| 02:58.03 | AsaPhelps | you should make a laser that shoots a laser |
| 02:58.03 | ProzaicMuze | is the king of lasers |
| 02:58.13 | ProzaicMuze | points to his laser beam chain |
| 02:58.23 | Lilianna | >.> |
| 02:59.04 | Lilianna | I should add a laser to my WASD map, once I figure out how to get that working. xD |
| 02:59.10 | Vulfe | I have 15 lasers |
| 02:59.15 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 02:59.20 | ProzaicMuze | That sounds like a personal problem |
| 02:59.23 | ProzaicMuze | Should get that checked out |
| 02:59.28 | Lilianna | Overcompensation? |
| 02:59.40 | Vulfe | Doctor, |
| 02:59.45 | Vulfe | I'd like to talk about lasers |
| 03:00.00 | Vulfe | What is the optimum, healthy amount of lasers? |
| 03:00.14 | Lilianna | 4? |
| 03:00.18 | Lilianna | One for each eye and each hand |
| 03:00.40 | AsaPhelps | should guys have 5 |
| 03:00.47 | AsaPhelps | one for their ... mouth |
| 03:00.48 | Lilianna | :| |
| 03:00.55 | Lilianna | No mouth lasers |
| 03:01.00 | Lilianna | thats only for demons |
| 03:01.04 | Lilianna | and they only get one laser |
| 03:01.09 | AsaPhelps | so women should have a mouth laser then |
| 03:01.15 | AsaPhelps | see what I did thar? |
| 03:01.16 | Lilianna | Pfft |
| 03:01.31 | AsaPhelps | what if you had a tank that was a laser |
| 03:01.34 | AsaPhelps | and it shot tanks |
| 03:01.43 | Xackery | ProzaicMuze: If I'm not corrected, your tutorial is showing how to attach turrets to another unit as a weapon, but can you e.g. make an attachment that doesn't have a TurretZ bone rotate to face the target? |
| 03:01.44 | Lilianna | it wouldnt shoot lasers then |
| 03:02.07 | AsaPhelps | I agree with Xack since I don't understand it |
| 03:02.55 | ProzaicMuze | @Xackery - it depends on the model |
| 03:03.05 | ProzaicMuze | As I said, only certain anchor points work for Turret rotation |
| 03:03.06 | Xackery | In your example, you're utilizing the TurretZ bones found in the protoss turrets to make them "face" the marines as they come, but no other model bones are rotating |
| 03:03.11 | ProzaicMuze | Unfortuntaely they didn't make alist |
| 03:03.14 | ProzaicMuze | And I haven't tried every anchor point |
| 03:03.24 | ProzaicMuze | You'd need to go through and guess/check until you found one that worked |
| 03:03.33 | Xackery | My tooltip on this SS shows: http://a.imageshack.us/img707/8144/boohx.png |
| 03:03.38 | Lilianna | Origin might work, it might make the whole Unit rotate |
| 03:03.43 | Lilianna | like if you attacha marine ontop of a bunker |
| 03:03.46 | Xackery | "The attach point must be linked to a 'special turret' bone :/ |
| 03:03.53 | Lilianna | but I doubt something like, Left Arm, or Weapon would work |
| 03:03.56 | ProzaicMuze | That's why I said only certain anchor points work |
| 03:04.14 | Xackery | What I'm mulling over is the idea of e.g. |
| 03:04.20 | Lilianna | TurretZ is the easiest one to point out to beginners |
| 03:04.32 | Trager|546|US | Armok |
| 03:04.35 | Lilianna | there are lots of models with TurretZ too |
| 03:04.50 | Xackery | Taking the entire "Stone Zealot" model, and putting it on a platform, and turning the entire stone zealot into a turret. So his entire model rotates to face, instead of just a bone. |
| 03:05.00 | Lilianna | Pylons, Protoss Cannon, Missle Turrets, Siege tanks, Laser Drill Tank, Diamond Backs, Helions |
| 03:05.19 | ProzaicMuze | You can eschew the turret in that Case Xackery |
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| 03:05.39 | ProzaicMuze | Disable movement for the unit, but make it turnable |
| 03:05.41 | Xackery | Yeah, true, since that's what units do by default |
| 03:05.46 | Atlos | sup guys |
| 03:05.49 | ProzaicMuze | The sky |
| 03:05.52 | Xackery | can you attach it to another unit and keep that functionality? |
| 03:05.54 | Atlos | does anyone have a good book for learning C? |
| 03:05.55 | Lilianna | My ceiling |
| 03:05.56 | Xackery | of it rotating |
| 03:06.07 | ProzaicMuze | @Xackery - if the Stone Zealot is the host, yes |
| 03:06.16 | ProzaicMuze | You'd just give it a height and attach an object beneath it |
| 03:06.21 | Lilianna | Make the building a Fixed rotation attachment |
| 03:06.32 | ProzaicMuze | Then make sure that you set Hold Rotation on the attachment |
| 03:06.38 | Xackery | Yeah. |
| 03:06.44 | Xackery | That's what i was thinking |
| 03:06.46 | Atlos | and would somebody be kind enough to help me make 2 abilities? they should be simple but I can't figure them out :S |
| 03:06.47 | ProzaicMuze | I actually have a working example mape |
| 03:06.50 | pinzu | I want to sleep, but I cant must bug fix this!! :s |
| 03:06.51 | ProzaicMuze | Of a hydralisk on a platform |
| 03:06.56 | Xackery | Yeah. |
| 03:06.57 | ProzaicMuze | I made it for. . . Phaos? |
| 03:06.59 | ProzaicMuze | One sec |
| 03:06.59 | Xackery | is it on a mushroom? |
| 03:07.05 | Xackery | I remember someone talking about it |
| 03:07.06 | Xackery | lol |
| 03:07.08 | Lilianna | That only wont work if you want to put multiple rotating turret statues on one building |
| 03:07.11 | Lilianna | then we are just being crazy! |
| 03:07.15 | arturusfury | Whatcha need Atlos |
| 03:07.26 | Atlos | I'm trying to make Dark Swarm and Hallucination from SC1 |
| 03:07.38 | Atlos | two relatively easy spells |
| 03:08.15 | Atlos | I was going to use the guardian shield as the model for dark swarm |
| 03:08.18 | Xackery | ProzaicMuze: Did I ever ask you about the hero learn ability, and how to make it not appear on allies? |
| 03:08.22 | Xackery | (And if not, do you know the answer) |
| 03:08.25 | AsaPhelps | you did ask him |
| 03:08.29 | Xackery | Ok |
| 03:08.41 | Xackery | I wonder if there's any new questions to ask him. |
| 03:08.48 | AsaPhelps | whats your favorite color |
| 03:08.50 | Xackery | Oh, the cleanest way to ensure an animation has been cleared |
| 03:08.58 | Xackery | namely, animation brackets |
| 03:09.01 | casperb | Hmm whoever made the idra simulator.. |
| 03:09.01 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.wikiupload.com/UEDONVxY |
| 03:09.02 | casperb | <3 |
| 03:09.04 | AsaPhelps | okay so to make my stone zealot building rotate, |
| 03:09.09 | ProzaicMuze | That's the Hydralisk Stand map |
| 03:09.17 | Lilianna | Is there a way to show attach points in the previewer? |
| 03:09.22 | ProzaicMuze | "A" |
| 03:09.27 | Lilianna | Ah thanks |
| 03:09.28 | Lilianna | :D |
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| 03:09.37 | Xackery | haha |
| 03:09.47 | Lilianna | Yes, I would say if your trying to turn a basic unit into a turret |
| 03:09.49 | Lilianna | use Origin |
| 03:09.52 | ProzaicMuze | @Xackery - you did mention that problem a while back. I recall referring you to filters as a possible solution. |
| 03:09.55 | Lilianna | If it blows up, then we know it wont work |
| 03:10.06 | AsaPhelps | origin for the turret attachment? |
| 03:10.15 | Xackery | Err, on which question ProzaicMuze? |
| 03:10.20 | Xackery | the hero learn? |
| 03:10.23 | ProzaicMuze | Yes |
| 03:10.37 | ProzaicMuze | @Asa - you can use origin or the method in that concept map |
| 03:10.37 | Xackery | Filters... refresh my memory |
| 03:10.43 | ProzaicMuze | I just attached it and then lowered it |
| 03:10.48 | Lilianna | for the Turret-Yaw Query |
| 03:10.53 | Xackery | like, say a few more words in relations other than filters |
| 03:11.00 | ProzaicMuze | But I also made it before SOps got the overhaul, so Origin will likely be eaiser |
| 03:11.41 | ProzaicMuze | yeh know target fitlers on an abilitiy? |
| 03:11.45 | ProzaicMuze | Filters* |
| 03:11.46 | ProzaicMuze | Ability* |
| 03:11.53 | ProzaicMuze | That screen what you can target? |
| 03:12.01 | Lilianna | Prozaic, Im just thinking if youw anted say a Uberlisk with a bunch of Hydras on its back, how you would make them turrets |
| 03:12.03 | Lilianna | use Origin |
| 03:12.04 | Lilianna | :) |
| 03:12.55 | Lilianna | Now Im imagining an Uberlisk with Hydras wearing spine crawlers as hats. >.> |
| 03:12.58 | AsaPhelps | would the hydras shoot lasers? |
| 03:13.01 | Lilianna | Yes |
| 03:13.02 | Zaraf | Anyone here remember Fade Filters from WC3? |
| 03:13.08 | Xackery | Target filters on an ability |
| 03:13.09 | AsaPhelps | what about the spine crawlers |
| 03:13.16 | Lilianna | They shoot like a spine crawler |
| 03:13.24 | Xackery | are not available on a learn ability type |
| 03:13.47 | AsaPhelps | could you add a requirement to the button |
| 03:13.50 | Zaraf | is it possible to do WC3 style Fade Filters in SC2? |
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| 03:14.06 | Tordecybombo | is anyone hungry? |
| 03:14.16 | Xackery | Hm @ Asa's req inquiry. Let me see what to validate. |
| 03:14.37 | pinzu | I beg someone, too look into my map :S |
| 03:14.50 | pinzu | I've been hunting the bug for like 2 hour straight.. |
| 03:14.51 | Zaraf | what for, pinzu? |
| 03:14.54 | ProzaicMuze | That was the other thing I was going to suggest |
| 03:14.57 | pinzu | every thing has a display |
| 03:14.57 | Zaraf | what bug? |
| 03:15.11 | ProzaicMuze | a requirement/validator that checks for ownership of the unit in the "Show" section |
| 03:15.33 | pinzu | and Xackery, I do know how your system works, this has nothing to do with it ;> |
| 03:15.36 | Tordecybombo | anyone hungry for |
| 03:15.37 | Tordecybombo | spaghettios? |
| 03:15.40 | AsaPhelps | SopLowerBy1 is that a custom attachment? |
| 03:15.40 | Zaraf | no |
| 03:15.51 | ProzaicMuze | Yes |
| 03:15.53 | Xackery | CountUnit(Stetmann,CompleteOnly) == 1 heh hmmm |
| 03:15.56 | ProzaicMuze | IT's in the actors tab |
| 03:16.46 | pinzu | http://www.2shared.com/file/HNK8Sda7/qwerty-1_v017bug.html |
| 03:17.00 | pinzu | what you should do when someone is hopefully testing this is |
| 03:17.10 | pinzu | type "drone" 4-8 times |
| 03:17.18 | pinzu | then type the apeared words |
| 03:17.41 | pinzu | and tell me why |
| 03:17.46 | pinzu | some untis wont die :S |
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| 03:20.18 | P_R_Deltoid | anyone need help doing stuff! |
| 03:20.23 | ProzaicMuze | No |
| 03:20.25 | ProzaicMuze | go away |
| 03:20.27 | ProzaicMuze | Your help is not wanted |
| 03:20.28 | P_R_Deltoid | Damn! |
| 03:20.31 | P_R_Deltoid | :< |
| 03:20.35 | P_R_Deltoid | kisses u |
| 03:20.46 | Xackery | :/ |
| 03:20.55 | ProzaicMuze | is not ghey |
| 03:21.19 | pinzu | ^ yes please |
| 03:21.23 | AsaPhelps | Deltoid I need you to find a model what would look cool shooting flaming rocks |
| 03:22.38 | Xackery | make that stripper hologram night elf shoot em |
| 03:22.50 | AsaPhelps | I will |
| 03:23.01 | AsaPhelps | whats that model called |
| 03:23.34 | ProzaicMuze | Stripper Holo |
| 03:23.48 | P_R_Deltoid | Anyone need help (with triggers) |
| 03:23.52 | P_R_Deltoid | hope this helps clear some things up |
| 03:23.53 | ProzaicMuze | Triggers are ghey |
| 03:24.23 | AsaPhelps | I agree |
| 03:24.27 | P_R_Deltoid | Triggers are ownzone |
| 03:24.47 | pinzu | http://www.2shared.com/file/HNK8Sda7/qwerty-1_v017bug.html ------ |
| 03:25.07 | pinzu | dont make me spam cus I will sink that loow soon :3 |
| 03:25.21 | ProzaicMuze | Then I will rape your face for spamming |
| 03:25.24 | ProzaicMuze | And you won't enjoy it |
| 03:25.39 | Xackery | So. |
| 03:25.52 | Xackery | I throw a show/hide requirement on the button that's owned by another player. |
| 03:25.56 | pinzu | hmmf |
| 03:26.02 | AsaPhelps | AND? |
| 03:26.54 | Xackery | To test, I was playing as Nova, and Egon's learn button required you to have Nova in order to train it. If I select Egon, it shows the requirement of owning Nova to train it, even though I met the requirements (I had nova). if I spawn a nova for the player who owned that egon, he can now train it. |
| 03:27.03 | Xackery | in other words, the requirements are based on the player controlling it. |
| 03:27.45 | AsaPhelps | so did it work or not |
| 03:27.48 | Zaraf | Anyone know if Fade Filters are possible in SC2 like they were in WC3? |
| 03:27.54 | P_R_Deltoid | Fade filters... |
| 03:28.10 | Xackery | Not only did it not work, but it also shows I can't really do much to fix the bastard since the displaying on it is relative to the owning player, not the player selecting the hero. :/ |
| 03:29.07 | rooj | so um |
| 03:29.18 | rooj | what do you do when a unit is not selectable in the map editor |
| 03:29.20 | rooj | lol |
| 03:29.29 | rooj | THIS THING IS WORKING AGAINST ME I TELL YOU |
| 03:29.33 | Xackery | drag drop a box |
| 03:29.40 | rooj | its not working :X |
| 03:29.50 | Tordecybombo | I need to make something new |
| 03:29.51 | Tordecybombo | already |
| 03:29.54 | Tordecybombo | jesus christ |
| 03:29.57 | rooj | oh wait |
| 03:30.01 | rooj | it is working |
| 03:30.08 | rooj | its just not putting a circle around it LIKE IT WAS BEFORE |
| 03:30.15 | rooj | because it hates me |
| 03:30.23 | AsaPhelps | make a map |
| 03:30.33 | AsaPhelps | where you play as a structure |
| 03:30.41 | AsaPhelps | and you wait for units to come to you |
| 03:31.24 | rooj | i like where this is going |
| 03:31.38 | vxcriss | soooo... |
| 03:31.42 | Xackery | how about the strucuture is a corporate office |
| 03:31.46 | vxcriss | how does one go about testing a map? |
| 03:31.47 | Xackery | and the units are people in suits |
| 03:31.56 | vxcriss | do I publish it or what? |
| 03:31.57 | AsaPhelps | ctrl f9 |
| 03:32.00 | Atlos | is anybody here willing to help me port over the dark swarm ability from sc1 |
| 03:32.04 | Atlos | I've failed thus far |
| 03:32.07 | Atlos | since I'm terrible with the data editor |
| 03:32.11 | AsaPhelps | I think someone did that in beta |
| 03:32.13 | Atlos | I got the range indicators working |
| 03:32.19 | Atlos | but not the ability |
| 03:32.20 | vxcriss | no my map is done, but I need to test it with real people |
| 03:32.24 | rooj | rofl, my unit has (male) in the name |
| 03:32.26 | Xackery | Atlos: Use the Convert SC1 map to SC2 tool in the file menu |
| 03:32.29 | AsaPhelps | then yes you have to public |
| 03:32.35 | vxcriss | ok kewl |
| 03:32.36 | Atlos | that won't convert a spell over... |
| 03:32.46 | Xackery | I'd laugh if you checked for that file option to exist |
| 03:33.01 | AsaPhelps | i'm surprised no one just did convert wc3 map to sc2 for dota yet |
| 03:33.13 | Xackery | because dota sucks in sc2 |
| 03:33.14 | AsaPhelps | Xack totally checked to see if he could |
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| 03:33.50 | Otixa | You guys suck :D |
| 03:33.55 | Otixa | G'mornin |
| 03:34.26 | AsaPhelps | stabs Otixia with a sharp piece of tungsten |
| 03:34.38 | Otixa | evades |
| 03:34.46 | Otixa | kicks AsaPhelps in the face |
| 03:34.55 | AsaPhelps | you can't evade tungsten |
| 03:34.59 | Xackery | is eating caramel carabou ice cream |
| 03:35.02 | AsaPhelps | it has the highest boiling point of any element |
| 03:35.14 | Otixa | still evades |
| 03:35.22 | AsaPhelps | it gives me true strike |
| 03:35.22 | Xackery | AsaPhelps: mm talk nerdy to me! |
| 03:35.32 | Xackery | hahaha |
| 03:35.38 | AsaPhelps | sometimes I rub cesium all over my auroras |
| 03:35.42 | Otixa | Xackery, I unzip your corset.zip |
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| 03:36.02 | Otixa | umount /dev/nullpants |
| 03:36.06 | rooj | hot |
| 03:36.09 | Otixa | mount /dev/Xackery |
| 03:36.19 | AsaPhelps | i should make a tower of zerg |
| 03:36.22 | AsaPhelps | like |
| 03:36.28 | Xackery | overflowing with zerglings |
| 03:36.35 | AsaPhelps | zergling on hydra on infestor in ultralisk |
| 03:36.44 | Xackery | make zerglings into missiles, and have them erupt from a volcano |
| 03:37.02 | AsaPhelps | I want to make a ultralisk that shoots zerglings from its mouth |
| 03:37.10 | AsaPhelps | but accidentally kills them because of its blades |
| 03:37.13 | Xackery | my ultralisk spits green shit |
| 03:37.19 | rooj | i still gotta make my melee madness map |
| 03:37.21 | Otixa | lol gaiz |
| 03:37.25 | AsaPhelps | oh that reminds me |
| 03:37.28 | rooj | where ultralisks have charge and baneline suicide |
| 03:37.35 | AsaPhelps | i got an idea no one steal it let me go try to make it |
| 03:37.49 | Otixa | steals it |
| 03:37.59 | Xackery | http://www.xfire.com/video/33d76f/ heh |
| 03:39.11 | Otixa | lol |
| 03:41.03 | RodOfNOD | stole AsaPhelps idea before he even had it : |
| 03:42.53 | AsaPhelps | what property of medivacs and hercules prevents them from loading each other |
| 03:42.58 | vxcriss | erhm... |
| 03:43.07 | vxcriss | how do I control the player slots that appear in the lobby |
| 03:43.09 | RodOfNOD | the size of the unit? |
| 03:43.14 | RodOfNOD | the cargosize? |
| 03:43.18 | vxcriss | apparently the player properties under map info don't do sht |
| 03:43.19 | AsaPhelps | well you can't load any air unit with them |
| 03:43.39 | vxcriss | anyone? |
| 03:43.57 | vxcriss | I just want to lock some slots and only have 3 slots on one team and 3 slots on the other |
| 03:44.02 | RodOfNOD | perhaps its an air setting property |
| 03:44.07 | RodOfNOD | in the ability |
| 03:44.14 | RodOfNOD | id guess its ground only or something |
| 03:44.22 | Xackery | If a medicvac and a hercules loaded each other, would it create a dimensional pocket? |
| 03:44.32 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 03:44.48 | RodOfNOD | if u got them to load each other simultaneously both would disappear |
| 03:44.49 | Otixa | Not if you load them into a warp prism |
| 03:44.50 | Otixa | :D |
| 03:44.56 | pinzu | I dont understand |
| 03:44.57 | pinzu | it works |
| 03:45.06 | pinzu | but then at random it dosnt oo |
| 03:45.16 | RodOfNOD | ? pinzu |
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| 03:45.43 | Xackery | this ice cream |
| 03:45.44 | Xackery | is a sin |
| 03:45.51 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 03:46.01 | Xackery | btw rod |
| 03:46.05 | Xackery | are you referring to C&C? |
| 03:46.10 | RodOfNOD | but of course |
| 03:46.22 | Xackery | gdi ftw |
| 03:46.27 | RodOfNOD | cnc tiberian dawn speciricially |
| 03:46.30 | RodOfNOD | specifically |
| 03:46.44 | RodOfNOD | nothing could stop my nod bike rush :> |
| 03:47.07 | Xackery | when C&C3 came out I was selling it as SC2 |
| 03:47.07 | Xackery | heh |
| 03:47.56 | RodOfNOD | u were selling it? |
| 03:48.14 | Xackery | like to friends who wanted to know about t |
| 03:48.19 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR7-AUmiNcA&feature=channel - is it ok to be addicted to this video? |
| 03:48.35 | Xackery | oh |
| 03:48.37 | Xackery | this one |
| 03:48.40 | Xackery | you linked it before |
| 03:48.41 | Xackery | :3 |
| 03:48.50 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 03:48.53 | RodOfNOD | yea :> |
| 03:48.57 | RodOfNOD | very addicting |
| 03:49.10 | RodOfNOD | she has these 2 moves in the video that really get to me |
| 03:49.28 | Xackery | let me thank you for your time, and try not to waste any more of my time~ |
| 03:49.44 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:49.44 | Xackery | hopefully it's not the head bob thingie |
| 03:49.50 | RodOfNOD | yea thats one of them |
| 03:49.53 | Xackery | ugh |
| 03:49.59 | RodOfNOD | but its when she raises her hands |
| 03:50.02 | RodOfNOD | with the white dress |
| 03:50.09 | RodOfNOD | and shes saying the song title |
| 03:50.10 | Xackery | she looks she's impersionating a ghetto girl giving lip |
| 03:50.28 | AsaPhelps | Xack I got a mission for you |
| 03:50.35 | RodOfNOD | minite 3:20 |
| 03:50.36 | Xackery | You've got a quest! |
| 03:50.43 | AsaPhelps | I'm wearing a ! |
| 03:50.58 | Trager|546|US | is there a unit state for when a unit is loaded into something? |
| 03:50.59 | AsaPhelps | I can't figure out what medicavs etc use for load |
| 03:51.07 | Xackery | lol |
| 03:51.09 | AsaPhelps | like why you can't fill a medivac with battlecruisers |
| 03:51.13 | AsaPhelps | I mean a filter |
| 03:51.36 | Xackery | i would guessimate |
| 03:51.38 | Xackery | without looking |
| 03:51.40 | Xackery | it's a validator |
| 03:51.50 | RodOfNOD | thats not the reason |
| 03:51.54 | Trager|546|US | anyone? |
| 03:52.02 | RodOfNOD | the reason is a bc cant fit inside a medivac duh |
| 03:52.11 | RedWraith | sup guys |
| 03:52.20 | *** part/#sc2mapster []pc (~cp5@93.1.214.21) |
| 03:52.30 | RedWraith | RodOfN0D, question about command cards. |
| 03:52.41 | RedWraith | Prozaic was telling me about how you were working on custom ones |
| 03:52.42 | RodOfNOD | yes? |
| 03:52.45 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 03:52.48 | Xackery | Medivac load requirement is it requires terran |
| 03:52.50 | RedWraith | How's that going? |
| 03:52.51 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 03:52.56 | Xackery | is a hercules thingie a terran unit? |
| 03:53.00 | AsaPhelps | yes |
| 03:53.01 | RedWraith | Yes. |
| 03:53.07 | ProzaicMuze | Yes |
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| 03:53.10 | AsaPhelps | but why can't you load a hercules with battlecruisers |
| 03:53.13 | ProzaicMuze | No |
| 03:53.57 | Xackery | Maybe tweak cargo size fo battlecruiser to more than 0 |
| 03:53.59 | Xackery | in the unit tab? |
| 03:54.05 | AsaPhelps | perhaps |
| 03:54.12 | Xackery | let's try |
| 03:54.13 | Xackery | and seeeee |
| 03:54.16 | Xackery | eeeeeeeeee |
| 03:54.18 | AsaPhelps | i'm going to try first |
| 03:54.18 | RodOfNOD | well its certainly not perfect but it is workable RedWraith |
| 03:54.22 | Xackery | no :o |
| 03:54.23 | Xackery | meanie |
| 03:54.36 | Xackery | i wanted to make a dimensional pocket |
| 03:55.07 | Xackery | what's the other transport? |
| 03:55.09 | Xackery | a hercules? |
| 03:55.24 | AsaPhelps | xack is a genius |
| 03:55.24 | Otixa | warp prism |
| 03:55.25 | Otixa | fgt |
| 03:55.30 | RedWraith | How's it work,RodOfNOD |
| 03:55.43 | Xackery | yeah, cargo size seems to be reason |
| 03:55.48 | RedWraith | More importantly, can it load up as many abilities as is necessary? |
| 03:55.50 | RodOfNOD | been 2 weeks since i played with it RedWraith let me think about that lol.... |
| 03:56.05 | RedWraith | See, I want to make a custom hero game. |
| 03:56.07 | RodOfNOD | well u can have 32 abilities per unit max |
| 03:56.17 | Xackery | medviac can load medivacs just by setting that. |
| 03:56.49 | RedWraith | So, you can't switch between hundreds of abilities? |
| 03:56.52 | Xackery | so what happens if a medivac loads a medivac loads a medivac |
| 03:56.55 | RodOfNOD | correct |
| 03:57.01 | RedWraith | That's...inconvenient. |
| 03:57.06 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 03:57.08 | AsaPhelps | then they medivac a lot |
| 03:57.17 | RodOfNOD | the only way to pull that off would be to do what i was thinking about doing |
| 03:57.22 | Xackery | hahaha |
| 03:57.31 | Xackery | that's awesome. |
| 03:57.32 | AsaPhelps | whats the best aa unit in the game |
| 03:57.35 | RedWraith | Trigger-based ability system? |
| 03:57.37 | AsaPhelps | QUICK |
| 03:57.40 | Xackery | I like the Laser Drilling Turret |
| 03:57.48 | AsaPhelps | attacks slow |
| 03:57.50 | AsaPhelps | but ok |
| 03:57.57 | Xackery | who cares about attack speed |
| 03:57.58 | Xackery | it looks badass |
| 03:58.04 | AsaPhelps | give me something less ghey |
| 03:58.05 | Xackery | huge ass laser |
| 03:58.11 | RodOfNOD | see u can change things like names and tooltips but not the icon for a trained unit on the unit on the fly so i figured id have 4 units numbered 1 to 4 and u could then have the details once u hovered over them |
| 03:58.32 | Xackery | Oh ProzaicMuze: Ever tried catalog editing a command card? |
| 03:58.39 | Chainclaw | Anyone want to help me play test my map? I want to start looking at unit balance |
| 03:58.42 | Xackery | I should just try it instead of ask |
| 03:58.44 | RedWraith | so you can't change the icon on the command card on the fly? |
| 03:58.52 | RodOfNOD | i have Xackery |
| 03:58.58 | Xackery | does it work? |
| 03:58.59 | Xackery | NOD? |
| 03:59.04 | RodOfNOD | not for the things i wanted to |
| 03:59.12 | RodOfNOD | i had units that were being trained |
| 03:59.19 | RedWraith | Is it possible to grant abilities with items? |
| 03:59.21 | Xackery | like, is it possible to add an abilility to a unit |
| 03:59.26 | ProzaicMuze | does not know triggers Xp |
| 03:59.26 | RedWraith | Yes, right, but they don't get a command card slot? |
| 03:59.30 | RodOfNOD | the way to discover waht u cant and cant change via catalog is rather easy |
| 03:59.32 | Xackery | redwraith |
| 03:59.40 | Xackery | you can link a item to show/hide an item |
| 03:59.40 | RodOfNOD | go look at UPGRADES |
| 03:59.49 | Xackery | err *ability |
| 03:59.51 | RodOfNOD | and if u can alter the unit stat via upgrade u can alter it via catalog |
| 04:00.04 | Chainclaw | anyone up for helping me playtest my map on the US server? |
| 04:00.12 | Zaraf | what kind of map? |
| 04:00.25 | Chainclaw | single unit 6v6 with light RPG elements, king of the hill gameplay |
| 04:00.30 | RedWraith | RodOfN0D, very few things can be modified via catalog. |
| 04:00.36 | RodOfNOD | not true |
| 04:00.41 | Xackery | lots of things can |
| 04:00.42 | RedWraith | most of them are stats or text |
| 04:00.43 | RedWraith | :[ |
| 04:00.46 | RodOfNOD | i estimate its 35% of most things |
| 04:00.55 | Zaraf | sure Chainclaw, send me a message on bnet - Zaraf 527 |
| 04:01.00 | RodOfNOD | trust me spent 50% of my time on catalog |
| 04:01.02 | Xackery | upgrades don't show abilities |
| 04:01.04 | RodOfNOD | in the last 2 months |
| 04:01.06 | AsaPhelps | how do you start out a unit with units loaded already? |
| 04:01.08 | Chainclaw | anyone else? I want to actually get some PVP going |
| 04:01.15 | RedWraith | What can they modify? |
| 04:01.19 | RedWraith | weapons? |
| 04:01.27 | RedWraith | abilities? |
| 04:01.34 | RodOfNOD | yes but not everything |
| 04:01.40 | RodOfNOD | units the most |
| 04:01.43 | RedWraith | only statistics, right? |
| 04:01.44 | Xackery | let's see about abilities |
| 04:01.50 | casperb | AsaPhelps: create cargo units |
| 04:01.51 | RodOfNOD | everything is a stat |
| 04:01.56 | RodOfNOD | what do u mean by that? |
| 04:02.08 | RedWraith | Models, textures, weapons as in the weapon actor. |
| 04:02.23 | RedWraith | Buttons |
| 04:03.17 | AsaPhelps | what is that casperb a trigger? |
| 04:03.34 | casperb | function yes |
| 04:03.39 | AsaPhelps | :/ |
| 04:03.42 | AsaPhelps | triggers eww |
| 04:03.58 | RodOfNOD | atm i have yet to find an easy and unlimited way to create unlimted buttons on your units RedWraith |
| 04:04.13 | Fromethius | anyone online wanna play island defense? (NA) lobby is almost full |
| 04:04.29 | RedWraith | RodOfN0D, the issue isn't the limit, it's that they have to exist beforehand, yes? |
| 04:04.32 | Chainclaw | Fromethius, I'll try it in a minute if I can get someone to help me with mine |
| 04:04.39 | RedWraith | Also, is it possible to give a unit an ability? |
| 04:04.41 | Fromethius | alright cool |
| 04:04.51 | RodOfNOD | true RedWraith |
| 04:04.58 | Chainclaw | From, send me an invite |
| 04:05.05 | Chainclaw | I don't think I'll get enough people to test my map |
| 04:05.13 | RodOfNOD | i havent played with this since sc2 gold but i was unable to add an ability to a unit if it didnt have it in data |
| 04:05.33 | RodOfNOD | howevfer there must be some way to do use the items and fake it |
| 04:05.36 | Chainclaw | Thanks for the offer to help, Zaraf |
| 04:05.55 | RedWraith | RodOfN0D, is it possible to give units powers via upgrades? |
| 04:06.02 | RedWraith | err |
| 04:06.05 | RedWraith | abilities* |
| 04:06.12 | RodOfNOD | powers? |
| 04:06.15 | RedWraith | abilities* |
| 04:06.18 | AsaPhelps | you could make validators |
| 04:06.22 | Zaraf | lol ok |
| 04:06.39 | RodOfNOD | well u can make it dependant ie a requirement |
| 04:06.47 | RedWraith | mmm |
| 04:06.52 | RedWraith | I think that's where this all lies. |
| 04:07.00 | RedWraith | The problem is that all abilities and command card buttons |
| 04:07.05 | RedWraith | have to exist before the game even starts. |
| 04:07.09 | RedWraith | on that particular unit |
| 04:07.10 | RodOfNOD | seem so |
| 04:07.15 | RodOfNOD | however |
| 04:07.22 | Xackery | 00:00:04.31 Trigger Error in 'gt_test_Func': TriggerDebug/ErrorCatalogFieldNotWritten |
| 04:07.23 | RodOfNOD | u can have items right |
| 04:07.31 | Zaraf | funny how maxed popularity maps run for like 4 pages |
| 04:07.38 | RodOfNOD | why not just use itemand and make the ability to see the item not there |
| 04:07.45 | RodOfNOD | ie block it with a dialog |
| 04:07.56 | RedWraith | So, items can give units abilities and command cards? |
| 04:08.13 | rrowland | Is there a flag that I can switch so my unit doesn't chase a target that's out of range? |
| 04:08.19 | rrowland | When given an attack order |
| 04:08.21 | RedWraith | command card buttons* |
| 04:08.21 | RodOfNOD | hmm passive abilities |
| 04:08.26 | Xackery | When you try to do catalog sets |
| 04:08.27 | RedWraith | not active ones? |
| 04:08.29 | RodOfNOD | i think to see the cc u have to see the item itself |
| 04:08.33 | Xackery | e.g. Catalog - Set value of Units "Medivac" "AbilArray[4].Link" for player 1 to "attack" |
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| 04:08.43 | Xackery | it tells me it can't write to it |
| 04:09.17 | RedWraith | hmm |
| 04:09.22 | RedWraith | I'll just make a test item |
| 04:09.24 | RedWraith | see how it works |
| 04:10.02 | Xackery | You can use triggers to show/hide the ability when the item is equipped. |
| 04:10.26 | Xackery | But, the command card and the unit has to have the ability already set inside it. |
| 04:10.36 | RedWraith | Items can have targeted affects, basically abilities. |
| 04:10.45 | RedWraith | However, that wont appear on the command card. |
| 04:10.55 | Xackery | Yeah, items can be clicked to deal an effect, but that won't be an ability per say |
| 04:11.00 | Xackery | it's tied to the item instead |
| 04:11.32 | Otixa | kicks Xackery |
| 04:11.32 | RedWraith | The only way around this problem might be to create a custom command card. |
| 04:12.31 | RedWraith | Upgrades |
| 04:12.36 | RedWraith | basically crash the editor all the time now |
| 04:12.39 | RedWraith | most frustratin |
| 04:13.18 | vxcriss | I keep trying to publish my map and I get a "Transmitting Visual File" failed on upload |
| 04:13.23 | vxcriss | anyone know what the hell this is about |
| 04:13.36 | pinzu | I give up |
| 04:14.24 | vxcriss | anyone? |
| 04:14.43 | RodOfNOD | RedWraith yes they do |
| 04:14.51 | Tordecybombo | errrrrrrrrrrr |
| 04:14.55 | vxcriss | says "unknown \ LargeImage.dds" |
| 04:14.56 | RodOfNOD | one reason its taken so long to find what can and cant be cahnged |
| 04:15.14 | RodOfNOD | RedWraith i do ahve a trick to make it happen less |
| 04:15.44 | RodOfNOD | make a brand new upgrade and then add a new one by right clicking and then u should crash less cuz it wont have to look to anything but the one u try and pick |
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| 04:16.23 | Xackery | It's nice that you can catalog edit buttons |
| 04:16.25 | Xackery | hrmm |
| 04:16.26 | Walshie824 | gday all |
| 04:16.44 | Walshie824 | Is any here good with actor attachment and removal through triggers |
| 04:16.46 | Walshie824 | ??? |
| 04:16.54 | Xackery | hmmmm |
| 04:16.58 | Xackery | I have an idea. |
| 04:17.34 | vxcriss | anyone have any idea about this http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/2888-cant-publish-my-map-any-more/ |
| 04:17.40 | Xackery | you can edit the tooltip, button info, face, etc.. so, technically.. you could take a dummy button and reface it to make it seem like custom abilities. |
| 04:17.42 | vxcriss | I have the exact same problem, less what the guy is saying |
| 04:17.44 | RodOfNOD | well u can KINDA edit them |
| 04:17.51 | RodOfNOD | u cant change the ICON |
| 04:18.01 | RodOfNOD | which if u could it would be fine |
| 04:18.10 | Xackery | Alert Icon: |
| 04:18.10 | vxcriss | the map published fine BEFORE I added a game variant, now it won't publish |
| 04:18.26 | RedWraith | RodOfN0D, can you switch out the ability for a different one? |
| 04:18.50 | RodOfNOD | well let me tell u what i accomplished |
| 04:18.59 | RodOfNOD | i used upgrade and if it was set to level 1 |
| 04:19.05 | RodOfNOD | it put the train marine in slot 0,0 |
| 04:19.09 | Otixa | gaiz |
| 04:19.09 | RodOfNOD | level 2 moved it to the right |
| 04:19.11 | Otixa | gaiz |
| 04:19.13 | RodOfNOD | all the way to level 15 |
| 04:19.15 | Otixa | You smell :D |
| 04:19.20 | RodOfNOD | make sense? |
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| 04:20.28 | Xackery | you can catalog edit the icon for weapons.. nifty. |
| 04:21.19 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 04:21.25 | RodOfNOD | but u cant cahnge a weapon NAME |
| 04:21.26 | RodOfNOD | now wtf |
| 04:21.31 | RodOfNOD | so we have a theory about this |
| 04:21.36 | RodOfNOD | everything can be cahnged |
| 04:21.51 | RodOfNOD | however in order to allow US to change it blizzard has to turn on a flag |
| 04:21.59 | RodOfNOD | and they only turned on the shit they cared about |
| 04:22.05 | RodOfNOD | not the shit we cared about |
| 04:22.09 | RodOfNOD | make sense? |
| 04:23.03 | RedWraith | yeah |
| 04:23.07 | RedWraith | that's actually what I figured |
| 04:23.22 | RedWraith | they select whether or not it can be changed and are extremely conservative about it |
| 04:23.23 | RedWraith | >>_ |
| 04:23.29 | RodOfNOD | so in theory we beg enough we can get anythbing turned on |
| 04:23.36 | RodOfNOD | correct thats the theory |
| 04:23.39 | RodOfNOD | i HOPE its true |
| 04:23.50 | RedWraith | Well, some things probably aren't on for a reason |
| 04:23.53 | RedWraith | i.e. terrain textures |
| 04:23.57 | RodOfNOD | cuz otherwis there is no rationaly behind allowing u to change a units tooltip name but NOT a weapons tooltip name |
| 04:24.08 | RedWraith | It's just like |
| 04:24.15 | RodOfNOD | i dont get terrain not being able to be alterered like wc3 |
| 04:24.16 | RedWraith | the bnet 2.0 custom map support |
| 04:24.17 | RodOfNOD | i mean shit |
| 04:24.22 | vxcriss | anyone know why my map doesn't publish anymore after adding game variant? |
| 04:24.22 | RodOfNOD | wtf are they thinking |
| 04:24.42 | vxcriss | having this problem here http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/2888-cant-publish-my-map-any-more/ |
| 04:24.47 | vxcriss | exactly the same prob |
| 04:24.49 | LordAbyss | Sixen and I are having a 1v1 match, if anyone wants to watch message me tyrannical.801 |
| 04:25.21 | vxcriss | with the difference that the status on mine says Unknown [3250] |
| 04:25.21 | Tordecybombo | read that as 1v1 math |
| 04:25.28 | RodOfNOD | vxcriss ur over 10mb? |
| 04:25.30 | Tordecybombo | so i thought you were dueling in calculus or some shit |
| 04:25.34 | vxcriss | nope 400k |
| 04:25.48 | Atlos | does anybody have a good book to learn C? |
| 04:25.52 | vxcriss | I managed to publish once, then added a game variant, now it won't publish |
| 04:25.56 | Atlos | that I can buy since I'm going shopping tomorrow lol |
| 04:26.00 | Tordecybombo | THE C programming language is THE book for C |
| 04:26.23 | Atlos | that's the name of it? "The C Programming Language"? |
| 04:26.32 | RodOfNOD | vxcriss ok wahts a variant? |
| 04:26.36 | Tordecybombo | it was written by its creators so yea |
| 04:26.59 | Tordecybombo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_c_programming_language |
| 04:27.27 | casperb | No greater resource than the internet for software development material |
| 04:27.36 | casperb | Most geeks blog about their stuff 8-) |
| 04:27.36 | Tordecybombo | that too |
| 04:27.42 | vxcriss | this is a variant |
| 04:27.42 | vxcriss | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ |
| 04:27.50 | vxcriss | pretty much sets teams and stuff |
| 04:28.04 | casperb | well, doesn't set teams |
| 04:28.12 | casperb | unless it's been changed |
| 04:28.23 | Tordecybombo | online resources has somewhat made books obsolete when it comes to learning some things |
| 04:28.28 | Atlos | I'll check that book out thanks |
| 04:28.31 | Tordecybombo | but it doesnt hurt to have a book |
| 04:28.37 | Atlos | I was most likely going to ebook it |
| 04:28.42 | Atlos | although having a physical copy is nice too |
| 04:28.56 | Tordecybombo | sometimes reading from a electronic screen is weird |
| 04:28.59 | casperb | But when the language reference is available online, it's kinda pointless to get a dumbed down book |
| 04:29.00 | Atlos | yea |
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| 04:29.33 | casperb | Say you want to learn HTML, do you read the spec or do you read a book on it? :p |
| 04:29.47 | Tordecybombo | well for something as simple as html, course not the book |
| 04:30.08 | RodOfNOD | vxcriss does this help: |
| 04:30.09 | RodOfNOD | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/2965-game-variants/ |
| 04:30.19 | casperb | Now let's say you want to learn ruby, read the spec or an out of date book? :p |
| 04:30.34 | RaydenUni | Cryosis, |
| 04:30.44 | Tordecybombo | how about both |
| 04:30.44 | casperb | Makes more sense to read the documentation from the language designers imo |
| 04:30.49 | jorgenpt | casperb: I'd read an online tutorial, look through other people's source and write some code. |
| 04:31.00 | Tordecybombo | use online for API and stuff |
| 04:31.04 | casperb | yep |
| 04:31.05 | Tordecybombo | use the book for core learning |
| 04:31.06 | jorgenpt | casperb: Using the reference as, well, a reference. |
| 04:31.12 | Atlos | that's what I plan on doing |
| 04:31.17 | jorgenpt | casperb: A spec was never meant as documentation for learning the language. |
| 04:31.23 | Atlos | I'm just learning this myself, not for a class or anything |
| 04:31.26 | casperb | Not hard to read a spec tho |
| 04:31.27 | jorgenpt | casperb: It was meant as doucmentation for /implementing/ the language. |
| 04:31.37 | Atlos | it will be useful for internships so I figured why not learn it now |
| 04:31.42 | jorgenpt | They're usually not structured in a logical manner for learning the language. |
| 04:31.47 | jorgenpt | Especially if it's your first language. ;-) |
| 04:31.49 | casperb | But also shows how the scemantics of the language, which books really never do :p |
| 04:31.50 | RaydenUni | a spec *should* pass for an API though |
| 04:31.54 | RaydenUni | not that it does |
| 04:31.59 | Atlos | I only know a little of java and php :P |
| 04:32.17 | casperb | if you know basic 5th grade math's you'll be fine :p |
| 04:32.26 | RaydenUni | for doing what? |
| 04:33.13 | Atlos | Rayden: was that to me? |
| 04:33.17 | Atlos | or to casperb |
| 04:33.28 | RaydenUni | um, |
| 04:33.29 | RaydenUni | either |
| 04:33.55 | Tordecybombo | i know nothing |
| 04:34.00 | Atlos | oh :P, I'm doing EE and this guy that will hopefully get me an internship recommended some things I should learn this year |
| 04:34.09 | Atlos | so I'm learning C, Matlab, and more Verilog |
| 04:35.09 | casperb | map switching doesn't work on bnet right? |
| 04:35.34 | RodOfNOD | anyone have an idea on how to get a trigger to tell a unit to click on a target spell so the user can then target something? |
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| 04:36.08 | casperb | in other words, you want to activate the button from trigger? |
| 04:36.11 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 04:36.12 | casperb | Not possible afaik |
| 04:36.15 | Cryosis | Fromethius: sorry was away |
| 04:36.21 | RodOfNOD | what about an actor message? |
| 04:36.22 | Fromethius | np |
| 04:36.30 | Cryosis | eating some dinna's |
| 04:36.32 | Fromethius | we're about to start another if you want to join |
| 04:36.36 | Cryosis | sure |
| 04:36.38 | Cryosis | why not |
| 04:37.06 | Fromethius | ok give us 5 mins |
| 04:37.29 | RaydenUni | Cryosis, |
| 04:37.42 | RaydenUni | Fromethius, what are you doing? |
| 04:37.47 | RaydenUni | Cryosis, what kind of map are you making? |
| 04:37.51 | Fromethius | playing island defense of course! |
| 04:37.59 | casperb | EU or US? |
| 04:38.14 | RaydenUni | so i poked through custom maps this weekend when at a LAN party |
| 04:38.22 | RaydenUni | going by bnet's popular list, a lot of it sucks |
| 04:38.25 | casperb | yep |
| 04:38.29 | casperb | good ones aren't even up yet |
| 04:38.30 | RaydenUni | nexus wars... circle TD whatever... |
| 04:38.32 | RaydenUni | what else? |
| 04:38.38 | RaydenUni | or is that it? |
| 04:38.40 | Cryosis | I actually changed my map idea |
| 04:38.44 | casperb | that's pretty much it |
| 04:38.51 | Cryosis | I'm doing a spirtual remake of a rather old game |
| 04:38.54 | RaydenUni | also, how do i get a list of maps i've downloaded when in game? all i could see is the sort thing |
| 04:38.59 | RaydenUni | what is it Cryosis ? |
| 04:39.09 | Cryosis | Every play Metal Marines? |
| 04:39.12 | Cryosis | Ever* |
| 04:39.13 | RaydenUni | no |
| 04:39.18 | casperb | RaydenUni: downloaded maps are stored in user documents i think |
| 04:39.26 | casperb | but it's just a cache |
| 04:39.34 | Cryosis | it's an interesting game, no other game is quite like it |
| 04:39.46 | RaydenUni | there is a maps folder in the sc2 directory |
| 04:39.48 | Cryosis | Fromethius: you going to add me? |
| 04:40.01 | Fromethius | yeah this game is going to be over in 2 mins |
| 04:40.05 | RaydenUni | turn based |
| 04:40.06 | Fromethius | i'll make a lobby and invite you then |
| 04:40.07 | Otixa | Cryosis, no. You smell |
| 04:40.11 | casperb | Someone make an abe's oddesy clone! :p |
| 04:40.14 | Cryosis | :( |
| 04:40.14 | casperb | It's soo doable |
| 04:40.19 | Otixa | :> |
| 04:40.23 | casperb | so tempted but freaking semester starts tomorrow |
| 04:40.34 | Otixa | Lies |
| 04:40.38 | Otixa | It starts in 2 weeks |
| 04:40.43 | Cryosis | Otixa: I don't smell :( |
| 04:40.50 | Otixa | Cryosis, yes you do >:[ |
| 04:40.54 | Cryosis | :( |
| 04:40.58 | RaydenUni | i was just wondering because you were asking about ballstics |
| 04:41.02 | RaydenUni | sounds similar to what i'm doing |
| 04:41.04 | Cryosis | ahh |
| 04:41.17 | RaydenUni | but probably not then |
| 04:41.22 | Cryosis | probably not |
| 04:41.30 | Tordecybombo | read cryosis as crysis |
| 04:41.32 | Cryosis | but there are alot of missiles in Metal Marines |
| 04:41.39 | Cryosis | Tordecybombo: it happen |
| 04:41.41 | Cryosis | s |
| 04:41.48 | RaydenUni | there are a lot of missiles in my game |
| 04:42.14 | Tordecybombo | is it me or is there a lot less players playing sc2 nowadays |
| 04:42.19 | Tordecybombo | is it because of school? |
| 04:42.23 | RaydenUni | how can you tell? |
| 04:42.24 | Tordecybombo | >_ |
| 04:42.27 | Cryosis | yes how can you tell |
| 04:42.36 | Tordecybombo | # of players thing |
| 04:42.43 | Tordecybombo | total # of games played on custom games list |
| 04:42.59 | RaydenUni | then you ought to be able to deduce this on facts, and not on your feelings |
| 04:43.05 | RaydenUni | and do'nt need to ask us :/ |
| 04:43.07 | Cryosis | I wish the maps were better |
| 04:43.23 | Cryosis | it's alot harder to make maps than the old days :P |
| 04:43.26 | Tordecybombo | not gonna happen with this popularity system |
| 04:43.36 | RaydenUni | cusotm maps? |
| 04:43.37 | Cryosis | yah the popularity system is f'd |
| 04:43.44 | RaydenUni | i do'nt toally understand the popularity system |
| 04:43.52 | RaydenUni | i'm holding off judgement of the removal of a game browser |
| 04:43.57 | RaydenUni | a queue is fine with me |
| 04:44.01 | Tordecybombo | guess what |
| 04:44.04 | Tordecybombo | take a guess |
| 04:44.09 | RaydenUni | and i love that you can download maps without joining a game |
| 04:44.13 | Tordecybombo | me too |
| 04:44.15 | Fromethius | chainclaw: game is up if you want to join again |
| 04:44.23 | Tordecybombo | that's a +++++++convenience with battenet 2.0 |
| 04:44.29 | Tordecybombo | but it doesnt outweigh the cons :/ |
| 04:44.42 | RaydenUni | it was a huge pain in the ass having to try and join a game to download a map before people kicked you for downloading too slowly |
| 04:44.49 | Tordecybombo | yea |
| 04:44.54 | Tordecybombo | and it relies on the hosts connection |
| 04:44.58 | RaydenUni | the way it is now, you can't make a "dota allstars noobs only" games can you? |
| 04:45.01 | Tordecybombo | and the distance between the players |
| 04:45.03 | Fromethius | raydenuni are you us or eu? |
| 04:45.04 | RaydenUni | since you can't make titles? |
| 04:45.06 | RaydenUni | US |
| 04:45.08 | Fromethius | ooh |
| 04:45.12 | Tordecybombo | YOUCH |
| 04:45.14 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 04:45.15 | Tordecybombo | who here's US |
| 04:45.16 | Fromethius | wanna come try out island defense? we're 10/12 |
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| 04:45.19 | Tordecybombo | no one that' what i thought |
| 04:45.19 | RaydenUni | sure |
| 04:45.22 | Fromethius | id? |
| 04:45.30 | RaydenUni | raydenuni |
| 04:45.31 | Tordecybombo | im US but it's usually EU people in here :/ |
| 04:45.32 | Fromethius | ading you now |
| 04:45.34 | Tordecybombo | im so lonely |
| 04:45.44 | Fromethius | oh, i need your id number too |
| 04:45.44 | RaydenUni | :( |
| 04:45.46 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 04:45.49 | Tordecybombo | (: |
| 04:45.51 | RaydenUni | i have no idea what it is, starting up now |
| 04:45.51 | Tordecybombo | ): |
| 04:46.24 | RaydenUni | 674 |
| 04:46.37 | RaydenUni | what is the id number for exactly? |
| 04:47.23 | Fromethius | to invite you |
| 04:47.25 | Fromethius | ok adding you now |
| 04:47.31 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 04:47.35 | RaydenUni | i want to play a map that i downloaded |
| 04:47.45 | RaydenUni | where is the dropdown selection of "Maps that I have downloaded" |
| 04:47.54 | RaydenUni | or how do i make a playlist i can search through, so i know which maps i liked? |
| 04:53.09 | Impaler | Having a totaly odd result when changing a transport unit |
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| 04:53.39 | Impaler | Changing the cargo count maximum changes the pick up behavior of the transport |
| 04:53.57 | Impaler | transports with 2 space will not move to pick up units |
| 04:54.09 | Impaler | Anyone noticed this before? |
| 04:54.27 | Tordecybombo | I AM |
| 04:54.28 | RodOfNOD | not sure what ur saying |
| 04:54.29 | Tordecybombo | THE JOKER |
| 04:55.10 | Impaler | I'm saying that I can go in and make ONE single change to a transports cargo size and its movement behavior in game is changing |
| 04:55.30 | Impaler | a size 8 transport will move to pick up a unit told to enter it |
| 04:56.48 | Impaler | when I reduce size (but still enough to hold the unit I want to load) the transport stands still while the unit comes to it |
| 04:58.33 | Xackery | Pop Quiz! |
| 04:58.44 | Xackery | What does "BSD" stand for in the editor? |
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| 05:00.35 | Oninji | Hellow |
| 05:00.51 | Otixa | Berkeley Software Distribution? :D |
| 05:01.06 | RodOfNOD | i just made a warp prism from 8 to 2 cargo size and it picked up a high temp just fine.... Impaler |
| 05:01.17 | RodOfNOD | but i changed all 3 fields |
| 05:01.39 | RodOfNOD | FieldWarp Prism - Load-Unload (Shuttle) |
| 05:01.40 | RodOfNOD | Stats - Cargo Count Maximum2 |
| 05:01.40 | RodOfNOD | Stats - Cargo Size Maximum2 |
| 05:01.40 | RodOfNOD | Stats - Cargo Space2 |
| 05:02.18 | vxcriss | I think I figured it out |
| 05:02.28 | vxcriss | the race parameter on game variants is bugged |
| 05:02.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster WAR (43b99d58@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.185.157.88) |
| 05:02.39 | vxcriss | if I set any race the game fails to publish |
| 05:02.40 | WAR | So hey |
| 05:02.44 | RodOfNOD | hi war |
| 05:02.47 | WAR | How do I activate bounty on characters. |
| 05:02.49 | vxcriss | which is retarded |
| 05:02.50 | WAR | er units |
| 05:02.54 | RodOfNOD | let me try vx |
| 05:03.16 | vxcriss | you should get an Unknown [3250] error |
| 05:03.53 | vxcriss | WAR: go in unit stats in data editor |
| 05:04.16 | Trager|546|US | vxcriss do it from players or whatever it's called in the maps dropdown |
| 05:04.22 | Trager|546|US | something with a p |
| 05:04.25 | Trager|546|US | placement? |
| 05:04.31 | vxcriss | actually nvm I don't know what I'm talking about WAR, tired |
| 05:04.32 | Trager|546|US | my editor isnt open |
| 05:04.38 | WAR | lol okay. |
| 05:04.46 | WAR | I thought there was trigger to activate it |
| 05:04.50 | WAR | in WC3 it was called bounty |
| 05:04.51 | RodOfNOD | wow puiblish is SLOOOOOOW |
| 05:04.58 | vxcriss | I already set it from player properties under map info |
| 05:05.13 | vxcriss | but I was supposed to restrict it in lobby to terran |
| 05:05.19 | RodOfNOD | k vxcriss i made a new map changed player 1 to default to terran and published no errors |
| 05:05.20 | vxcriss | using the game variant |
| 05:05.34 | RaydenUni | Fromethius, how do you get ga? |
| 05:05.39 | RaydenUni | gas |
| 05:05.40 | Fromethius | middle of the map |
| 05:05.46 | RaydenUni | with a worker? |
| 05:05.47 | vxcriss | ok then it must be a contextual error, prolly that's why it isn't even handled properly (hence the unknown 3250) |
| 05:05.50 | Fromethius | with your builder |
| 05:05.52 | vxcriss | it must be a combination of factors |
| 05:05.57 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 05:05.58 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 05:06.02 | RaydenUni | that's annoying |
| 05:06.04 | Fromethius | lo |
| 05:06.13 | vxcriss | anyway, thanks for checking |
| 05:06.14 | RaydenUni | i couldnt figure out what to do with all my money |
| 05:06.20 | RodOfNOD | nm |
| 05:06.23 | RodOfNOD | i live to serve |
| 05:06.42 | RaydenUni | MY LIFE FOR AIUR |
| 05:06.59 | RaydenUni | oh wait |
| 05:07.05 | RaydenUni | i should probably do some ugly terrain for my map |
| 05:07.10 | RaydenUni | so i can actually test it |
| 05:07.10 | RodOfNOD | MY LIFE FOR THIS VIDEO- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR7-AUmiNcA&feature=channel :P i warn u its addictive |
| 05:08.04 | RaydenUni | it's so poppy! |
| 05:08.09 | RaydenUni | she's playing the silverware |
| 05:08.10 | RedWraith | RodOfN0D, I am the king. |
| 05:08.39 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 05:09.02 | RedWraith | lol she has a ring on her left hand |
| 05:09.22 | RaydenUni | so? |
| 05:09.25 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 05:09.26 | RaydenUni | is she not married? |
| 05:09.35 | RodOfNOD | she is soon to be MINE! |
| 05:09.47 | Lilianna | Hurray |
| 05:09.55 | Lilianna | I have created a WASD movement system |
| 05:09.58 | Lilianna | that uses even less triggers |
| 05:09.59 | RodOfNOD | thing is if u look at the pretend photgraphs it says KADOK instead of KODAK hehe |
| 05:10.07 | Lilianna | No Periodic Timed event Trigger needed |
| 05:10.12 | RodOfNOD | cool |
| 05:10.20 | RodOfNOD | u will make millions happy |
| 05:10.22 | Lilianna | I will post it in a moment |
| 05:10.29 | Lilianna | I just want to clean up a few things |
| 05:10.39 | RedWraith | Lilianna, I don't see why you would need one unless it involves accelaration. |
| 05:10.42 | ProzaicMuze | What she means is "I" mad eit |
| 05:10.47 | Lilianna | Pfft |
| 05:10.49 | Lilianna | You didnt make it |
| 05:10.50 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:10.52 | ProzaicMuze | :( |
| 05:10.53 | Lilianna | I just asked you a few questions |
| 05:10.56 | vxcriss | lol great now I managed to publish and I get a big ERROR and ! sign when I try to create game and no text description for what's causing it |
| 05:10.58 | ProzaicMuze | I consider that making |
| 05:10.58 | vxcriss | ffs |
| 05:11.00 | ProzaicMuze | Questions = Making |
| 05:11.02 | Lilianna | lol |
| 05:11.08 | ProzaicMuze | How else do you think babies are made!? |
| 05:11.11 | Lilianna | Made, With Assistance from Prozaic |
| 05:11.12 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:11.13 | ProzaicMuze | "Do you love me?" |
| 05:11.16 | ProzaicMuze | Out pops a baby |
| 05:11.18 | RedWraith | order move -> far away *trollface* |
| 05:11.19 | Lilianna | I didnt add lasers yet though |
| 05:11.20 | Atlos | hey how do I make it so that a unit takes double damage? |
| 05:11.26 | Atlos | I'm making the buff |
| 05:11.27 | Atlos | but don't see it |
| 05:11.33 | Atlos | I was able to make it deal 0 damage |
| 05:11.33 | ProzaicMuze | BTW, why are you marrying this woman, Rod? |
| 05:11.46 | Lilianna | Atlos, Reduce armor multiplyer negative? |
| 05:11.46 | RodOfNOD | cuz she does it for me |
| 05:11.51 | RedWraith | In all seriousness, anything that behaves like a periodic event might as well be one. |
| 05:11.59 | RedWraith | Unless you did it with effects |
| 05:12.09 | RodOfNOD | and if she works i can sit at hope and code sc2 all day |
| 05:12.12 | HeyRevolver | anyone know how to set or change where a text crawl appears? |
| 05:12.13 | Lilianna | Its done with Effects |
| 05:12.15 | RodOfNOD | home |
| 05:12.15 | Lilianna | and Behaviors |
| 05:12.15 | RedWraith | Effect - Issue Order |
| 05:12.16 | RedWraith | right? |
| 05:12.17 | Lilianna | and Validators |
| 05:12.17 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 05:12.20 | Lilianna | Yah. c.c |
| 05:12.24 | Atlos | that wouldn't just affect the amount subtracted for armor? |
| 05:12.31 | ProzaicMuze | So you're gonna make this woman sing to pay the bills while you make video game stuffs? |
| 05:13.01 | RodOfNOD | well have u come up with a way to get a unit to press a key from one of its commands via trigger ProzaicMuze |
| 05:13.48 | RodOfNOD | exactly ProzaicMuze |
| 05:13.52 | RodOfNOD | its a perfect plan |
| 05:14.03 | HeyRevolver | no one knows about text crawls? |
| 05:14.20 | casperb | Lilianna: 8 directional? |
| 05:14.39 | ProzaicMuze | I don't know triggers Rod, so no lol |
| 05:14.46 | Lilianna | casperb, Yup |
| 05:14.54 | RodOfNOD | well ur using keyboard commands with triggers |
| 05:15.01 | RodOfNOD | it sounds like at least |
| 05:15.04 | RodOfNOD | so thus the reason i ask u |
| 05:15.14 | Lilianna | I made it Rod, not Prozaic. :p |
| 05:15.18 | ProzaicMuze | Oh, you're talkin' about Lily's thing |
| 05:15.20 | RodOfNOD | lol yes yes |
| 05:15.20 | Atlos | Prozaic do you know how to make my unit take double damage via behavior buff? |
| 05:15.21 | Atlos | I can't find what to change |
| 05:15.22 | ProzaicMuze | I just said "if this is possible, do that |
| 05:15.25 | ProzaicMuze | And she made it happen lol |
| 05:15.49 | ProzaicMuze | Give the buff a damage response |
| 05:15.52 | RedWraith | Lilianna, we all know no one is capable of bridging the gap between triggers and data. Stop being silly. |
| 05:15.52 | ProzaicMuze | With 100% change |
| 05:15.59 | ProzaicMuze | and make the damage multiplier 2 |
| 05:16.01 | ProzaicMuze | chance* |
| 05:16.08 | Lilianna | lol |
| 05:16.09 | Atlos | is that under the combat tab? |
| 05:16.09 | Otixa | HOOOOAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 05:16.11 | ProzaicMuze | And set it to trigger whenever "something" hits it |
| 05:16.12 | Otixa | CHEESECAKE |
| 05:16.13 | casperb | Lilianna: curious as to how, as the best i could do was 4 directional due to the fact that only one button is registered being pressed at a time |
| 05:16.15 | Otixa | REDBULL |
| 05:16.18 | Otixa | HELL YEAH |
| 05:16.21 | Otixa | explodes |
| 05:16.22 | ProzaicMuze | There is Modification and then Damage Response I believe |
| 05:16.23 | ProzaicMuze | for the fields |
| 05:16.25 | RedWraith | HOW ARE YOU ALL SO DUMB? T_T |
| 05:16.26 | ProzaicMuze | You want Damage Response |
| 05:16.38 | ProzaicMuze | Like you're not dumb too, Red |
| 05:16.40 | Otixa | RedWraith, it's not us. It's you :> |
| 05:16.56 | RedWraith | I made a system with acceleration, friction and gravity when the editor first came out. :P Too bad it didn't work on bnet. |
| 05:16.59 | Lilianna | casperb, Press a button, Apply a Behavior, I have 8 different behaviors that validate which directionional behavior has been added, if two are added, it turns on the dual direction behavior to move that way |
| 05:17.04 | RedWraith | Cause it was periodic function/trigger based. |
| 05:17.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster Cheesegrater (~Cheesegra@97.81.141.96) |
| 05:17.34 | ProzaicMuze | Or because it sucked |
| 05:17.34 | Lilianna | so my key presses apply 4 different behaviors, up down left or right |
| 05:17.36 | Atlos | oooooh I see it now thanks proz |
| 05:17.40 | ProzaicMuze | NP Atlos ;) |
| 05:18.00 | Atlos | proz did you play sc1? |
| 05:18.04 | Lilianna | or remove then when you let go of a key |
| 05:18.18 | casperb | So still using triggers? :o |
| 05:18.19 | RodOfNOD | what event are u using to do the add remove? |
| 05:18.27 | Atlos | because I'm trying to port over dark swarm and I found a map that does it, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't take 15 effects/behaviors/actors to create |
| 05:18.33 | casperb | cause only one button can be active at a time, pretty sure of that |
| 05:18.33 | Lilianna | Key Pressed Down, or Key Pressed Up |
| 05:18.39 | casperb | then it's not any more lag free :p |
| 05:18.43 | Lilianna | casperb, Keys arent active |
| 05:18.50 | Lilianna | They are pressed, or unpressed |
| 05:19.00 | Lilianna | there is no events for holding a key down |
| 05:19.18 | RodOfNOD | how is that different than what others do? |
| 05:19.22 | casperb | will still face the same lag issues |
| 05:19.34 | Lilianna | I Have no idea, I didnt use a trigger! |
| 05:19.35 | ProzaicMuze | @Atlos - I did indeed |
| 05:19.43 | Lilianna | You have to test it really |
| 05:19.48 | ProzaicMuze | Dark Swarm like the original Dark Swarm? |
| 05:19.51 | ProzaicMuze | With the aliens and humans? |
| 05:19.53 | Lilianna | is a Periodic effect just as laggy as a periodic timer trigger |
| 05:19.59 | Lilianna | that is the question |
| 05:20.06 | casperb | nope should be way faster |
| 05:20.08 | soundsnc | hey prozaicmuze, im trying to make a unit cycle a tint color while he is casting, im using the actor event ability.sourcecast.start but hes just flashing as soon as he casts. i tried adding time to the ability's time use and time start but its still just flashing and casting at the same time. am i missing something? |
| 05:20.24 | Lilianna | so, then answer me this, is Pressing a hotkey laggy? |
| 05:20.27 | ProzaicMuze | What do you mean by flashing? |
| 05:20.32 | Atlos | dark swarm as in the defiler's ability from sc1 |
| 05:20.36 | casperb | Lilianna: nope because that's handled locally |
| 05:20.36 | ProzaicMuze | OH that |
| 05:20.39 | soundsnc | i mean a tint with a cycle |
| 05:20.46 | Lilianna | Thats what I wanted to do |
| 05:20.50 | ProzaicMuze | I get that part |
| 05:20.55 | ProzaicMuze | I'm asking what the flashing means |
| 05:21.01 | Lilianna | but Proziac couldnt tell me how to make a spell channel or stop channeling when I cast an ability |
| 05:21.02 | soundsnc | it means hes about to cast |
| 05:21.02 | ProzaicMuze | Is it cycling too fast? |
| 05:21.06 | soundsnc | to warn the user |
| 05:21.08 | jorgenpt | ProzaicMuze: Ever get anywhere on the GreenTest.SC2Map? :-p |
| 05:21.23 | Lilianna | so Ive cut down the lag, from Period triggers, Its not perfect, but its getting there |
| 05:21.28 | Lilianna | periodic* |
| 05:21.38 | soundsnc | yeah its doing a tint cycle as soon as he casts the ability instead of during his cast time |
| 05:21.44 | ProzaicMuze | @lil - that's not true >:( I couldn't tell you how to make key press/release tied to execute/cancel command slol |
| 05:21.59 | RodOfNOD | ok so u have a unit with an ability and u can detect when the units letter is held down and then released without a trigger Lilianna? |
| 05:22.00 | Lilianna | Yes, that |
| 05:22.14 | Lilianna | RodOfNOD, Not yet, I want that |
| 05:22.17 | ProzaicMuze | @Atlos - Dark Swarm would probably have the following effect chain: |
| 05:22.26 | Lilianna | That was my original plan |
| 05:22.31 | RodOfNOD | so how are u doing anything without a trigger? |
| 05:22.31 | ProzaicMuze | Ability > Persistent > Search > Apply Buff > Buff |
| 05:22.37 | Lilianna | I didnt say without a trigger |
| 05:22.40 | Lilianna | I said less triggers |
| 05:23.07 | RodOfNOD | k well i dont understand i guess what causes keys to lag in mp |
| 05:23.20 | RodOfNOD | i have never tried it but i dont get what part could cause lag |
| 05:23.24 | ProzaicMuze | @soundsnc - do you have a blend duration? |
| 05:23.28 | RodOfNOD | unless by lag u mean DELAY? |
| 05:23.45 | Lilianna | People say Keypresses trigger events cause lag, because it flows to every person in the map, to figure out who pressed it |
| 05:23.47 | soundsnc | yep, its flashing between the tint every one second |
| 05:23.48 | ProzaicMuze | @Jorgen - can you remind me what I was working on in that map? It's been several days and I've spent all day in tutorials. i can't remember off the top of my head lol |
| 05:23.51 | soundsnc | its just tinting at the wrong time |
| 05:23.54 | Lilianna | at least, thats what Ive heard |
| 05:24.08 | Lilianna | but also having a trigger run ever .1 seconds causes alot of overhead too |
| 05:24.12 | jorgenpt | ProzaicMuze: I was trying to get cloaking without any visual indication (displacement) to either party |
| 05:24.19 | ProzaicMuze | @Sound - so you want it to flash while the Cast Start Time is active? Or AFTER that? |
| 05:24.21 | soundsnc | instead of when he starts the cast (which should last 5 seconds) hes flashing as soon as the ability itself is cast |
| 05:24.35 | jorgenpt | ProzaicMuze: Or in this case, making the unit appear green to one player and not to the other. :) |
| 05:25.07 | ProzaicMuze | @Jorgen - ah. No, I did not. I got it so units appear green as we were last at, but the filters aren't working. I haven't had a chance to work on it against since 4 days ago when I was distracted by hospital duty. |
| 05:25.11 | RodOfNOD | jorgenpt trying to get local unit tinting? |
| 05:25.24 | soundsnc | say he needs to take 5 seconds to cast missiles, he should flash while that cast time is going on, not as soon as the missiles fire |
| 05:25.26 | jorgenpt | RodOfNOD: Kinda, I guess. :-) |
| 05:25.31 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 05:25.36 | jorgenpt | RodOfNOD: I'm really trying to get "perfect invisibility" |
| 05:25.45 | RodOfNOD | what do u mean? |
| 05:25.46 | jorgenpt | So it's invisible to one guy while visible to another. |
| 05:25.56 | jorgenpt | No "cloak effect" for either player. |
| 05:26.03 | RodOfNOD | ic |
| 05:26.04 | Lilianna | Just hide the actor when they have cloak |
| 05:26.07 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 05:26.09 | ProzaicMuze | You know how sounds only play for one player when you build a new structure? |
| 05:26.13 | ProzaicMuze | He wants that, but for actors |
| 05:26.21 | jorgenpt | Lilianna: Easier said than done :) |
| 05:26.22 | RodOfNOD | hmm |
| 05:26.26 | Lilianna | Hehe |
| 05:26.38 | ProzaicMuze | @sound - and you have set 5s for the Cast Start on the ability? |
| 05:26.42 | Lilianna | Make a Model with nothing? And Just Use a model swap |
| 05:26.44 | Lilianna | when they have cloak |
| 05:26.56 | Lilianna | or somethingl ike that |
| 05:26.59 | ProzaicMuze | It is like tha tfor both players though |
| 05:27.00 | jorgenpt | Lilianna: Should be perfectly visible for the other player, though |
| 05:27.02 | jorgenpt | Which is the problem |
| 05:27.05 | jorgenpt | The filters aren't working |
| 05:27.05 | Lilianna | oh right |
| 05:27.06 | Lilianna | haha |
| 05:27.14 | Lilianna | Forgot that part, xD |
| 05:27.23 | jorgenpt | Step 1 & 2 of my Shared Vendor library done :-) |
| 05:27.24 | jorgenpt | http://o7.no/987046/1d.png |
| 05:27.39 | soundsnc | there we go, i thought it was cost->time start i wanted for cast time |
| 05:27.40 | jorgenpt | Data structures and triggers to show / hide the vendor "menu" |
| 05:27.41 | soundsnc | thanks man |
| 05:28.03 | jorgenpt | Now I just need step 3: Show the right icons, and step 4: Execute the stuff wanted. |
| 05:28.04 | ProzaicMuze | np :) |
| 05:28.31 | vxcriss | anyone has any idea why my map would just pop up a ! ERROR sign when I try to create a game |
| 05:28.35 | vxcriss | that's the only thing it does |
| 05:28.39 | vxcriss | no message no nothing |
| 05:28.52 | vxcriss | this is starting to piss me off really bad |
| 05:31.36 | RaydenUni | what is unit occlusion height/ |
| 05:32.05 | Atlos | where do I find the events+ menu? |
| 05:32.09 | Atlos | I forget what it's under |
| 05:32.12 | RaydenUni | actor |
| 05:32.25 | RaydenUni | Event - Events+ |
| 05:32.29 | MavercK | anyone have any experiance with using mods |
| 05:32.40 | MavercK | and publishing a map with a mod dependancy |
| 05:32.56 | Fromethius | anyone online US want to play island defense? we need 2 more |
| 05:33.20 | Atlos | ah ok |
| 05:33.29 | RaydenUni | MavercK, i've done it |
| 05:33.46 | Lilianna | :D |
| 05:33.56 | MavercK | im getting failed to publish at transmitting header issue :( |
| 05:34.01 | MavercK | only happens when i use my mod as a dependancy |
| 05:34.09 | Lilianna | So I just run a simple initilization on my map, and Any unit I select can be commanded with WASD movement! weee |
| 05:34.16 | RaydenUni | you published the mod on bnet? |
| 05:34.22 | MavercK | yea |
| 05:34.34 | RaydenUni | and you switched your map over to use the bnet mod? |
| 05:34.57 | MavercK | yea. should it be only my mod or should i leave the default ones there too? |
| 05:35.23 | RaydenUni | get rid of the default one is what i did |
| 05:35.29 | RaydenUni | it won't let you of course |
| 05:35.34 | RaydenUni | it will complain that it is using it |
| 05:35.37 | RaydenUni | so switch your old to the new |
| 05:35.45 | RaydenUni | it doesn't like deleting, but it's ok with switching random mods |
| 05:36.09 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: I wanna join |
| 05:36.12 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: Did you get +2? |
| 05:36.19 | Fromethius | nope |
| 05:36.21 | Fromethius | still need a lot more |
| 05:36.23 | Fromethius | some people went to bed |
| 05:36.24 | jorgenpt | A lot? |
| 05:36.29 | RodOfNOD | Lilianna when are u gonna post that? |
| 05:36.31 | RaydenUni | hmm, can't figure out why these units can still see over walls |
| 05:36.31 | Fromethius | yeah like 4 or 5 more |
| 05:36.37 | jorgenpt | Lilianna: What've you done? |
| 05:36.42 | Lilianna | I just added the last validators I wanted |
| 05:36.47 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: Let me know when it's +2 people (or you're about to go), and I'll join |
| 05:36.50 | jorgenpt | i'll map and e-mail in the meantime |
| 05:36.51 | Lilianna | I made WASD movement without a Periodic Trigger |
| 05:37.04 | jorgenpt | Cool, is it good on lag? |
| 05:37.06 | Fromethius | ok |
| 05:37.10 | Lilianna | Better |
| 05:37.17 | Lilianna | I cant say its perfect yet |
| 05:37.26 | RaydenUni | i played that runling map |
| 05:37.28 | RaydenUni | controls were ugh |
| 05:37.33 | Lilianna | Where should I post it though? |
| 05:37.33 | jorgenpt | How do you do it, Lilianna? |
| 05:37.37 | jorgenpt | sc2mapster! |
| 05:37.43 | Lilianna | Behaviors |
| 05:37.52 | Lilianna | Effects, and Validators |
| 05:37.59 | jorgenpt | Move Left effects? |
| 05:38.27 | RaydenUni | the data editor needs a "show me the differences between these two units" button |
| 05:39.16 | jorgenpt | RaydenUni: Oh so badly |
| 05:39.16 | RaydenUni | this one work, this one doesn't, but they are identical |
| 05:39.16 | jorgenpt | Opening them side-by-side helps, but not for any field that has like (||) fields :-p |
| 05:39.17 | RaydenUni | how do you open them side by side? |
| 05:39.17 | Atlos | hmm |
| 05:39.17 | jorgenpt | Just select them both in the list |
| 05:39.18 | Atlos | say I have a targeted ability |
| 05:39.21 | jorgenpt | Command button on Mac |
| 05:39.27 | jorgenpt | Probably Control or Shift on Windows |
| 05:39.29 | Atlos | if I want to make a copy of the targeted unit |
| 05:39.32 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 05:39.34 | RaydenUni | badass |
| 05:39.34 | Atlos | would I have to do that with triggers? |
| 05:39.38 | RaydenUni | i didn't know you could select two of them |
| 05:39.56 | Fromethius | atlos/raydenuni: want to play island defense? we need 2 more |
| 05:39.56 | jorgenpt | Atlos: How thorough? |
| 05:39.58 | RaydenUni | i love you so much |
| 05:40.06 | RaydenUni | Fromethius, no thanks, working on map |
| 05:40.08 | Atlos | what do you mean exactly |
| 05:40.11 | jorgenpt | Atlos: Create 1 (Unit Type of Unit (some unit)) .. |
| 05:40.12 | Fromethius | alright |
| 05:40.16 | Atlos | basically I'm recreating hallucination from sc1 |
| 05:40.23 | Atlos | would this be data/trigger driven? |
| 05:40.32 | jorgenpt | Atlos: There's a hallucination feature already |
| 05:40.40 | jorgenpt | The, uhh~ |
| 05:40.44 | RodOfNOD | i was just abou tto say that lol |
| 05:40.46 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/9016-data-specialized-weapons-intermediate-difficulty/ |
| 05:40.48 | soundsnc | lol |
| 05:40.53 | jorgenpt | Protoss unit, little one with the shield and the hallu |
| 05:40.57 | jorgenpt | Not Drone, not Probe |
| 05:40.58 | Fromethius | prozaicmuze! join my lobby we're 10/12 =D |
| 05:41.01 | Atlos | yea the sentry |
| 05:41.08 | Atlos | that creates a predefined unit |
| 05:41.08 | jorgenpt | Sentry! |
| 05:41.15 | ProzaicMuze | Can't From, gotta finish the tutorials Xp |
| 05:41.38 | Fromethius | one game! =D |
| 05:41.44 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: I'm coming now |
| 05:41.48 | Fromethius | ok |
| 05:42.01 | Fromethius | prozaicmuze: page 7 right now. almost 6 xD |
| 05:42.20 | jorgenpt | It was 30GPH earlier |
| 05:42.43 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 05:42.53 | RaydenUni | what did we determine is necessary to make a flying unit not see over walls? |
| 05:42.54 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 05:42.57 | ProzaicMuze | 5 pages to go |
| 05:43.02 | RaydenUni | its vision height is set to 0 |
| 05:43.11 | Fromethius | yeah srsly |
| 05:43.29 | Fromethius | jorgenpt you online? |
| 05:43.29 | Lilianna | Awaiting approval. :x |
| 05:43.33 | Lilianna | Quick, gogo approve! |
| 05:43.37 | jorgenpt | JUST SIGNED IN |
| 05:43.39 | Lilianna | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/trigger-lite-wasd-movement/ |
| 05:43.40 | jorgenpt | Oooh, whoops, cap |
| 05:43.41 | jorgenpt | caps |
| 05:43.50 | jorgenpt | ANOTHER version? :-p |
| 05:43.58 | Lilianna | o.o? |
| 05:43.58 | Fromethius | yeah you know i'm good for it |
| 05:43.59 | RaydenUni | what the |
| 05:44.05 | RaydenUni | i just pushed a ground unit up onto a ledge |
| 05:44.05 | RaydenUni | wtf |
| 05:44.10 | jorgenpt | Lilianna: I meant Island Defense |
| 05:44.15 | Lilianna | Oh hehe |
| 05:44.19 | jorgenpt | Fromethius is a version slut. |
| 05:44.35 | Fromethius | mostly just bug and balance fixes |
| 05:44.39 | RaydenUni | wtfwow |
| 05:44.47 | Fromethius | anyone else want to join? we need 2 more (NA) |
| 05:44.52 | RaydenUni | so air seperation can cause ground units to be pushed up onto a ledge |
| 05:45.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster HeyRevolver (HeyRevolve@cpe-071-068-127-183.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 05:45.04 | RaydenUni | :D |
| 05:45.09 | Cryosis | Can I apply 2 actors to one structure? |
| 05:45.19 | Cryosis | I'm trying to have a building made out of 2 meshes |
| 05:45.25 | Cryosis | god I'm tired |
| 05:45.30 | Lilianna | Only if you attach one to the other |
| 05:45.32 | RaydenUni | i think so |
| 05:45.34 | Lilianna | as a Model Addition |
| 05:45.38 | Cryosis | model addition? |
| 05:45.43 | Lilianna | Its a type of Actor |
| 05:45.45 | RaydenUni | why can't you just do 2 actors? |
| 05:45.56 | Cryosis | I tried 2 actors, it's not seeing the second |
| 05:46.06 | RaydenUni | does the editor see it? |
| 05:46.11 | Cryosis | nope |
| 05:46.17 | RaydenUni | change the token |
| 05:46.21 | Cryosis | I gave it the name of the untit and nothin |
| 05:46.26 | Otixa | Will there be cake? |
| 05:46.28 | RaydenUni | mine just seemed to work |
| 05:46.28 | Cryosis | change the token? |
| 05:46.35 | Cryosis | you were able to do it? |
| 05:46.39 | RaydenUni | yes |
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| 05:46.46 | RaydenUni | lots of units have multiple actors |
| 05:46.53 | RaydenUni | attack actors, splash actors, etc |
| 05:47.02 | Cryosis | hmm |
| 05:47.06 | Lilianna | Those arent for the base model of the unit though |
| 05:47.07 | Cryosis | but 2 of the same actor type? |
| 05:47.14 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 05:47.16 | RaydenUni | maybe not that |
| 05:47.23 | Lilianna | If you are adding to the base model, it will be a Model Addition actor |
| 05:47.30 | Cryosis | model addition actor |
| 05:47.32 | Cryosis | let me go find that |
| 05:47.42 | Otixa | Ok |
| 05:47.44 | Otixa | Guys |
| 05:47.46 | Otixa | Guys! |
| 05:47.50 | Otixa | Listen up |
| 05:47.54 | Otixa | I'm bored |
| 05:47.55 | Cryosis | that's not an actor type |
| 05:47.56 | Lilianna | err lemme see |
| 05:47.57 | Otixa | Amuse me! |
| 05:48.13 | Lilianna | Actor type Model |
| 05:48.17 | Lilianna | Based on Model Addition |
| 05:48.24 | Otixa | ... ¬_¬ |
| 05:48.28 | Otixa | stabs Lilianna |
| 05:48.30 | Lilianna | Bite me |
| 05:48.36 | Otixa | bites Lilianna |
| 05:48.37 | Lilianna | thats not biting |
| 05:48.41 | Lilianna | okay, that is |
| 05:48.41 | Lilianna | :P |
| 05:48.44 | Otixa | :> |
| 05:48.57 | Otixa | You taste of peanuts |
| 05:49.02 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 05:49.08 | Lilianna | hides the bag of peanuts. |
| 05:49.09 | Sixen | lilianna! |
| 05:49.13 | Lilianna | Sixen! |
| 05:49.15 | Cryosis | ok |
| 05:49.16 | Sixen | resubmit your WASD Movement as an asset pl0x? |
| 05:49.20 | Otixa | Sixen! |
| 05:49.22 | Lilianna | How do I do that? |
| 05:49.22 | Cryosis | Lilianna: how do I apply that to the base model? |
| 05:49.24 | Otixa | You smell :D |
| 05:49.30 | Sixen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/ |
| 05:49.32 | Sixen | Create Asset |
| 05:49.40 | Lilianna | Okay, I can do that |
| 05:49.44 | Lilianna | I wasnt sure what to do! hehe |
| 05:49.44 | Sixen | I can't move things between Maps / Assets atm, :(. |
| 05:49.49 | Sixen | No worries~ |
| 05:49.49 | Lilianna | ah boo |
| 05:49.50 | Otixa | oooohhh... shit |
| 05:49.54 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.56 | Otixa | I need to work on the tournament ad <_< |
| 05:50.05 | Sixen | lol |
| 05:50.05 | Otixa | stabs Sixen for hi :D |
| 05:50.05 | Xaragoth | hey Otixa |
| 05:50.15 | Otixa | stabs Xaragoth for hi too |
| 05:50.18 | Xaragoth | stabs Otixa with the pitchforks and sets him on fire. |
| 05:50.21 | Xaragoth | found a song yet? |
| 05:50.29 | Sixen | Tin told me we got approved for 50+ viewers on livestream :D |
| 05:50.34 | Otixa | Naw, will prolly be using liberation ;/ |
| 05:50.41 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 05:50.44 | Otixa | Sixen, schweeeet :D |
| 05:50.45 | RaydenUni | making air units not see over cliffs |
| 05:50.48 | RaydenUni | how do? |
| 05:50.56 | Xaragoth | yes, we did |
| 05:51.01 | Xaragoth | i applied 7 times for it |
| 05:51.04 | Xaragoth | and he got it in 1 go |
| 05:51.14 | Xaragoth | must have paid with chicks and drugs |
| 05:51.15 | RaydenUni | applied with whome? |
| 05:51.19 | Xaragoth | livestream |
| 05:51.22 | Otixa | Xaragoth, owned :D |
| 05:51.27 | Xaragoth | indeed otixa |
| 05:51.31 | RaydenUni | they don't let you have many viewers unless you apply? |
| 05:51.35 | RaydenUni | who can apply? |
| 05:51.37 | Xaragoth | but, i still have the better looks, you know |
| 05:51.49 | Otixa | is hotter than thou |
| 05:51.49 | Xaragoth | you have a 50 viewer limit |
| 05:51.56 | Xaragoth | and when you apply |
| 05:51.59 | Xaragoth | you get it for free |
| 05:52.10 | Xaragoth | and unlimited viewers |
| 05:52.22 | Otixa | Speaking of |
| 05:52.22 | Xaragoth | and sometimes they annoy you with a little commercial or two, it happens |
| 05:52.34 | Otixa | Anyone wanna record me some custom map games? |
| 05:52.38 | Otixa | Without the UI etc |
| 05:52.45 | Otixa | Gonna need 4-5 for the ad |
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| 05:53.09 | RaydenUni | arg |
| 05:53.16 | RaydenUni | how do i make this air unit use ground vision? |
| 05:53.22 | RaydenUni | i need some outside input here |
| 05:53.29 | Otixa | RaydenUni, put eyeballs on the floor |
| 05:53.30 | Otixa | :D |
| 05:53.36 | Xaragoth | you could use a roap and a huge stone |
| 05:53.42 | Xaragoth | *rope |
| 05:53.47 | RaydenUni | Unit - Vision Height |
| 05:53.49 | Otixa | grope? |
| 05:53.52 | RaydenUni | i set it to 0 like my other units |
| 05:53.55 | RaydenUni | but it still sees |
| 05:53.55 | xritam | Does anyone know how to use just one bio dome model rather then one of the three? |
| 05:53.58 | Xaragoth | grape? |
| 05:54.10 | jorgenpt | Sigh |
| 05:54.11 | Otixa | rape |
| 05:54.11 | Cryosis | xitram variants |
| 05:54.15 | Lilianna | Sixen, Okies Now an Asset! |
| 05:54.15 | Cryosis | I struggl with same issue |
| 05:54.15 | Xaragoth | tape |
| 05:54.18 | Atlos | wootwoot |
| 05:54.20 | Otixa | cape |
| 05:54.23 | Atlos | got my hallucination ability working |
| 05:54.34 | Xaragoth | i kinda get out of ideas here |
| 05:54.41 | Otixa | drape ;p |
| 05:54.44 | Sixen | Thanks lil |
| 05:54.45 | jorgenpt | RaydenUni: What about negative? :-p |
| 05:54.47 | Sixen | Lili* |
| 05:54.52 | jorgenpt | RaydenUni: Mybe it's relative to the unit height? |
| 05:54.56 | RaydenUni | the thing is i'm using 0 on my other ones |
| 05:54.58 | RaydenUni | what height? |
| 05:54.59 | Xaragoth | its either: set things on fire or eat their souls :O |
| 05:55.02 | RaydenUni | the only height is UI height |
| 05:55.04 | Otixa | shape |
| 05:55.05 | RaydenUni | and that's just UI |
| 05:55.06 | Xolsom | You could change the bio dome model to have only 1 variant |
| 05:55.09 | jorgenpt | RaydenUni: Hm, ok. |
| 05:55.16 | Otixa | ponders |
| 05:55.17 | jorgenpt | Just suggestions. |
| 05:55.18 | Xolsom | Or just create anew model.. |
| 05:55.23 | Otixa | I dunno :| |
| 05:56.13 | Otixa | throws a grape at Xaragoth |
| 05:56.25 | Xaragoth | Lil, is that one working smooth in MP? or just some SP stuff? |
| 05:56.41 | Lilianna | Xaragoth, I would expect it to be better in MP |
| 05:56.52 | Lilianna | But not perfect yet |
| 05:57.01 | Lilianna | IMO Perfect would be no triggers |
| 05:57.01 | Otixa | deletes Lilianna's blender |
| 05:57.03 | Xaragoth | Probably still won't work for either malu or us. |
| 05:57.11 | Lilianna | Hmm? |
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| 05:57.40 | Xaragoth | just thinking about getting WASD shooters running outside of a huge project like TSOF |
| 05:57.50 | vxcriss | sooo... anyone wants to try my map?? |
| 05:57.52 | xritam | ty cryosis |
| 05:57.53 | vxcriss | on the EU server |
| 05:58.07 | Lilianna | well this isnt based on unit rotation at the moment |
| 05:58.08 | Xaragoth | what is your map exactly? |
| 05:58.18 | Lilianna | but it can be quite simply |
| 05:58.26 | Lilianna | that was a problem I had while debugging it, hehe |
| 05:58.41 | vxcriss | a small rts with no macro and limited unit types |
| 05:58.45 | Lilianna | well actually, the first run through I had all my units running in circles, because my validators are bad. xD |
| 05:58.53 | Lilianna | were* |
| 05:58.54 | Xaragoth | I guess to biggest problem for a good wasd shooter is getting the whole math behind the shooting to work smooth |
| 05:58.56 | vxcriss | cmon need at least 1 more person on EU :P |
| 05:58.59 | RaydenUni | how do i make air units collide with air units? |
| 05:59.17 | Otixa | shoots Xaragoth in the face |
| 05:59.24 | Otixa | Works pretty smooth for me |
| 05:59.29 | Otixa | nods to self |
| 05:59.41 | Xaragoth | puts a Baneling in Otixas pants and nods. No more reproduction for you, sir. |
| 05:59.50 | Otixa | turns to smoke |
| 06:00.17 | Xaragoth | I need something like ... a forum watch thingy |
| 06:00.27 | vxcriss | cmon people anyone on EU server that can help me test this thing |
| 06:00.39 | Xaragoth | I don't wanna scroll through a lot of threads I don't care about oO I wanna see the interesting stuff only |
| 06:00.47 | Xaragoth | What I need, is a filter. |
| 06:00.48 | Otixa | Lies |
| 06:00.52 | Zaraf | Can Banelings attack normally at all or are they like the Infested Terrans from SC1 and only able to suicide? |
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| 06:01.05 | Xaragoth | I shall call it Sixen and it shall search me a topic of interest. |
| 06:01.18 | Xaragoth | Perferable it should have lolcats or banelings. |
| 06:01.23 | Xaragoth | they explode Zaraf |
| 06:01.24 | Lilianna | Heee |
| 06:01.30 | Lilianna | I love my initilization on my map |
| 06:01.36 | Lilianna | I can practially drop any unit in the map |
| 06:01.37 | Sixen | =o |
| 06:01.41 | Lilianna | and be able to control it with WASD |
| 06:01.45 | Lilianna | as long as you select it first |
| 06:01.46 | RaydenUni | filter: isInteresting |
| 06:01.48 | Sixen | Xaragoth, it's on the list of things to do |
| 06:01.49 | Sixen | :P |
| 06:02.08 | jorgenpt | Does == work for string comparison or is it pointer comparison like C? |
| 06:02.08 | Xolsom | What about a mod whose only purpose is rating threads with an interest-factor? :P |
| 06:02.41 | Xaragoth | oh great |
| 06:02.44 | Xaragoth | let vjeux do it |
| 06:03.06 | Xaragoth | he needs punishment for the whole "I slept while I had to news Custom Live" |
| 06:03.12 | vxcriss | need 1+ for EU server map test |
| 06:03.29 | Lilianna | Whats the fastest flying unit? |
| 06:03.49 | vxcriss | the phoneix I think |
| 06:03.53 | vxcriss | or whatever it's spelled |
| 06:03.56 | Xaragoth | phoenix or mutas |
| 06:03.57 | Xaragoth | one of them |
| 06:04.23 | Otixa | phoenix is faster than mutas |
| 06:04.26 | Lilianna | Hehe, this map is fun to play with now. :D |
| 06:04.42 | Otixa | I know because I usually piss off zerg with 1 phoenix |
| 06:04.48 | Otixa | And pwn all his mutas with it |
| 06:04.49 | Otixa | :D |
| 06:04.57 | Cryosis | I can't micro that well |
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| 06:05.12 | Xaragoth | I have a solution to phoenix |
| 06:05.16 | Lilianna | Yah looks like Phoenix |
| 06:05.22 | Xaragoth | its mass zerglings overrunning his base |
| 06:05.24 | Cryosis | lilianna the add unit actor should show up on the main unit yes? |
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| 06:05.42 | Cryosis | I used to go straight void ray, but lately I've been going more phoenix |
| 06:05.43 | Otixa | Xaragoth, photon cannons are fine too :D |
| 06:05.50 | RaydenUni | vs what Cryosis ? |
| 06:05.51 | Cryosis | 20 phoenix's in an expansion |
| 06:06.01 | Cryosis | takes out alot of workers fast |
| 06:06.02 | Lilianna | Cryosis, Theres a great tut for you, lemme get it one sec |
| 06:06.16 | Cryosis | I use it against terran vikings |
| 06:06.21 | Cryosis | vikings are horrid things |
| 06:06.26 | Cryosis | kill me alot |
| 06:06.35 | Otixa | kills Cryosis a lot |
| 06:06.36 | Otixa | :> |
| 06:06.39 | MavercK | sigh. still can't get this to publish |
| 06:06.46 | Xaragoth | there is no photon cannon I know of that stops 3:3 cracklings from eating you :D |
| 06:06.46 | Lilianna | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/8926-data-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty/ |
| 06:06.53 | MavercK | probably to do with the fact i converted my mod from a map originally |
| 06:06.58 | Lilianna | Look at that Cryosis, it should show you what your wanting to do |
| 06:07.05 | vxcriss | need 1+ for EU server map test |
| 06:07.12 | Otixa | Xaragoth, carrier has arrived >:[ |
| 06:07.16 | Xolsom | Can you even publish a mod? |
| 06:07.17 | jorgenpt | Uh, how do you get a String from a Text? :o |
| 06:07.25 | Xolsom | You don't |
| 06:07.25 | MavercK | apparently you can |
| 06:07.46 | Lilianna | Cryosis, You can skip down to the Actors section if your not adding a weapon |
| 06:08.04 | Xolsom | String to Text is a big no no, I suppose |
| 06:08.11 | Xolsom | I mean Text to String.. |
| 06:08.23 | Otixa | native text StringToText(string p1); |
| 06:08.37 | RaydenUni | i somehow fixed this unit seeing over walls |
| 06:08.38 | RaydenUni | not sure how |
| 06:08.55 | Cryosis | Thanks Lilianna ! |
| 06:08.58 | Xolsom | How come I don't see any published mods then? Or can you only see your own? |
| 06:09.00 | Lilianna | Your welcome |
| 06:09.02 | jorgenpt | Otixa: That's the other way around :-) |
| 06:09.05 | Cryosis | I was just trying to add plates to the bottom of buildings |
| 06:09.09 | Cryosis | this will work great |
| 06:09.10 | Lilianna | I could have explained it all here as well, but Tuts are there for a purpose! |
| 06:09.15 | MavercK | can only publish mods as private |
| 06:09.20 | MavercK | you add them to maps as a dependancy |
| 06:09.21 | Xolsom | Ah |
| 06:09.21 | Otixa | Lilianna, lies |
| 06:09.28 | Lilianna | eats Otixa. |
| 06:09.29 | MavercK | unless your having issues like me |
| 06:09.34 | Xolsom | Well that explains everything :P |
| 06:09.35 | jorgenpt | MavercK: Oh really? :( |
| 06:09.37 | Otixa | explodes inside of Lilianna |
| 06:09.39 | Cryosis | Even if I looked, I wouldn't of known how to reference them as attachments Lilianna |
| 06:09.40 | Otixa | ;D |
| 06:09.44 | Cryosis | woah |
| 06:09.47 | RaydenUni | what are you trying to do with mods Xolsom ? |
| 06:10.01 | Xolsom | I? Nothing.. yet.. |
| 06:10.05 | Xolsom | Just.. |
| 06:10.11 | Otixa | imma mod yer face |
| 06:10.17 | Xolsom | Sucks a bit, that you can only use your own mods |
| 06:10.18 | MavercK | lolz |
| 06:10.20 | Lilianna | Cryosis, We are here to answer questions or point yout he right way to someone who can answer it better! |
| 06:10.30 | Cryosis | hehe :P |
| 06:10.42 | Cryosis | the SC2 editor is much harder than than the one for SC |
| 06:10.46 | casperb | Out of context, that seemed like a freaky convo :o |
| 06:10.48 | Otixa | Lilianna, no we're not. We're here to be annoying elitist bastards and troll people. |
| 06:10.50 | Cryosis | but still easier than UED |
| 06:10.50 | Otixa | >:[ |
| 06:10.59 | Cryosis | and maybe even sandbox editor |
| 06:11.07 | Xolsom | I never liked the Sc1 Editor.. waaaaaay to complicated :P |
| 06:11.16 | Lilianna | Lol ProzaicMuze, Swiss Army Tank! |
| 06:11.18 | jorgenpt | Otixa: Only if you're a troll like you. SOME of us know what we're talking about and have some artistic skill. |
| 06:11.32 | Xaragoth | UED and Sandbox are like a childs playtoy compared to the galaxy editor |
| 06:11.42 | Otixa | jorgenpt, no you don't :D |
| 06:11.50 | Cryosis | UED is a clusterfuck of nonses |
| 06:11.52 | jorgenpt | Otixa: see wut I did thar? :( |
| 06:11.54 | Xaragoth | because the features inside UDK & Sandbox 2 are limited for you without programming knowledge |
| 06:12.01 | Otixa | shakes head |
| 06:12.09 | Xaragoth | but sc2 lets you change a shitload without the knowledge |
| 06:12.22 | Lilianna | Cryosis, Power in an editor comes at the cost of difficulty |
| 06:12.31 | Xaragoth | because they build the whole stuff inside in a way that even the biggest idiot can use it (which we can prove by looking at bnet) |
| 06:12.37 | Otixa | Power... Overwhelming... |
| 06:12.41 | ProzaicMuze | @Lily - the tank of champions ;) |
| 06:12.43 | Cryosis | Lilianna: I know, it's still easier than the other editors |
| 06:12.43 | Lilianna | I know when we all first got the Editor we were all going, WTF Does THIS Button DO |
| 06:12.51 | Otixa | Actually, I would rather have a game engine instead of a silly editor |
| 06:13.00 | Otixa | Write awesome code > ??? > PROFIT |
| 06:13.05 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 06:13.15 | Xaragoth | i'd love to use UDK for a sc2 themed project |
| 06:13.18 | Lilianna | ProzaicMuze, It also keeps perfect time |
| 06:13.19 | Xaragoth | but blizz sues you bad for that |
| 06:13.29 | Otixa | Xaragoth, inorite :< |
| 06:13.36 | Xolsom | What is UDK?.. |
| 06:13.45 | Otixa | Unreal Development Kit ¬_¬ |
| 06:13.45 | Cryosis | Unreal Development Kit |
| 06:13.46 | Lilianna | Unreal Dev Kit |
| 06:13.49 | Xolsom | Ohh |
| 06:13.55 | RaydenUni | unreal development kit |
| 06:14.00 | Otixa | It's made of win and awesome shaders |
| 06:14.05 | Xolsom | One was enough :D |
| 06:14.08 | Cryosis | it's not made of win |
| 06:14.09 | Lilianna | They made it Free, as long as you dont make more then $2k on anything you sell from it, or something like that |
| 06:14.09 | Xaragoth | and its one fucked up editor |
| 06:14.18 | Cryosis | I don't want to work on it again |
| 06:14.19 | Otixa | Xaragoth, it's fine, l2p |
| 06:14.25 | Otixa | Cryosis, ^ |
| 06:14.29 | Xaragoth | otixa, I did a whole damn project inside the UDK |
| 06:14.31 | Xaragoth | ITS FUCKED UP |
| 06:14.35 | Xaragoth | work with it for a damn YEAR |
| 06:14.40 | Xaragoth | you wanna LYNCH people at epic |
| 06:14.45 | Cryosis | yah I worked with it for quite a long time |
| 06:14.48 | Lilianna | Lets all go back and use Hypercard! |
| 06:14.49 | Cryosis | fucking nightmare |
| 06:14.52 | Otixa | It's fine for environment artists :D |
| 06:15.15 | Cryosis | yah if the environment artists can set the damn origin correctly + scale |
| 06:15.25 | Cryosis | shakefist environment artists! |
| 06:15.32 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 06:15.33 | Otixa | It's fine, l2p |
| 06:15.49 | Otixa | :D |
| 06:15.55 | Cryosis | wonders if he should tell the mod team he was working with that he doesn't want to work on it anymore... |
| 06:16.08 | Otixa | Oh, I know |
| 06:16.13 | Otixa | Let's use CryEngine2 :D |
| 06:16.17 | Xaragoth | 2 ? |
| 06:16.18 | Otixa | HOOOOAHHHHH |
| 06:16.23 | Otixa | 2! |
| 06:16.28 | Cryosis | at least the sandbox editor worked most of the time |
| 06:16.40 | Cryosis | and it wasn't full of suprises |
| 06:16.40 | Xaragoth | why 2? |
| 06:16.41 | Xaragoth | we had 3. |
| 06:16.51 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 06:16.56 | Xolsom | We could step back to.. uh.. RPG Maker.. |
| 06:17.00 | Xaragoth | but, guess it helps being like 10m away from crytep |
| 06:17.02 | Xaragoth | *crytek |
| 06:17.07 | Lilianna | Buffamoo 3000 |
| 06:17.11 | Cryosis | got me all workd up about UED, I feel like I need a drink |
| 06:17.22 | Otixa | smacks Lilianna with a shovel |
| 06:17.23 | Cryosis | UED killed my goals of being a game designer |
| 06:17.37 | Lilianna | is made of diamonds and shatters the shovel |
| 06:17.39 | Xaragoth | game design with UDK is actually kinda alright |
| 06:17.39 | Lilianna | ! |
| 06:17.43 | Otixa | >:[ |
| 06:17.52 | Cryosis | well, I was going to go the route of level designer ->game designer |
| 06:17.54 | Otixa | MY FUCKING PILLAGING SHOVEL |
| 06:17.59 | Otixa | YOU'LL PAY FOR THIS |
| 06:18.03 | Otixa | 50bux plz |
| 06:18.12 | Otixa | :> |
| 06:18.13 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 06:18.17 | Lilianna | Why would you pillage with a shovel |
| 06:18.24 | Lilianna | a spiked club is scarrier |
| 06:18.24 | Otixa | More fun :D |
| 06:18.37 | Xaragoth | some people use a spoon for it. |
| 06:18.43 | Xaragoth | its scary. |
| 06:18.47 | Otixa | Spoons are for noobs |
| 06:18.50 | Otixa | Sporks! |
| 06:18.53 | RaydenUni | what did UED do Cryosis ? |
| 06:18.59 | Otixa | stabs Xaragoth with a spork |
| 06:19.27 | Xaragoth | it eats your soul RaydenUni ... at least if you try to do anything complex with it |
| 06:19.34 | Otixa | stabs Lilianna with a diamond dagger |
| 06:19.38 | Xaragoth | shoves Otixa away. Go and play with that sand fortress over there. |
| 06:19.48 | Lilianna | Now thats an expensive dagger |
| 06:19.50 | Lilianna | MINE! |
| 06:19.51 | Otixa | kicks the sand fortress |
| 06:19.52 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 06:20.09 | Otixa | pretends to be Godzilla |
| 06:20.27 | Otixa | casts Pyroblast on the sand |
| 06:20.31 | Otixa | Glass! \o/ |
| 06:20.47 | Otixa | goes back to being bored ;/ |
| 06:20.49 | Lilianna | Oooh yay, my name is now Green, because Ive uploaded something! |
| 06:21.10 | Otixa | Lilianna, because you ate something bad? D: |
| 06:21.28 | Otixa | You ate me earlier |
| 06:21.30 | Otixa | That'd be why |
| 06:21.53 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 06:22.02 | Lilianna | It says I joined the 9th of september in 2005 |
| 06:22.05 | Lilianna | I dont remember that |
| 06:22.05 | Xaragoth | I could use a red danger sign on my name |
| 06:22.06 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 06:22.21 | RodOfNOD | Lilianna nice triggers u do have a minor bug |
| 06:22.35 | RodOfNOD | if u select 2 units it doesnt unselect and still allows the unit to move around |
| 06:22.35 | Lilianna | Whats that? |
| 06:22.45 | Lilianna | Well right |
| 06:22.47 | Otixa | gloats |
| 06:22.48 | Cryosis | Anyone know how well SC2 deals with being really zoomed out? |
| 06:22.58 | Cryosis | say if I could visibly see.... 200 buildings? |
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| 06:23.01 | Lilianna | I guess I could change that |
| 06:23.12 | RodOfNOD | not sure what the goal o fthe selected trigger was |
| 06:23.16 | RodOfNOD | but looks great otherwise |
| 06:23.19 | Otixa | Cryosis, use a skydome >:[ |
| 06:23.21 | Lilianna | It was just so I could test it with multiple units |
| 06:23.24 | Lilianna | You can drop any unit |
| 06:23.26 | Cryosis | skydome? |
| 06:23.29 | Lilianna | and select it and move it with Wasd |
| 06:23.36 | Lilianna | just make sure you hit A first. >.> |
| 06:23.38 | Otixa | Skydoooooomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... |
| 06:23.40 | Otixa | dies |
| 06:23.42 | Lilianna | because if you hold S it does funny things, haha |
| 06:23.51 | Lilianna | thats why I killed the command card of the Archon |
| 06:23.58 | Cryosis | what is a skydome for? |
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| 06:24.10 | Otixa | For sky ¬¬ |
| 06:24.12 | Xaragoth | Cryosis: You might get the same result as you'd get with 3rd person view ... bad fps |
| 06:24.19 | Cryosis | oh |
| 06:24.26 | Cryosis | hmm |
| 06:24.35 | Cryosis | even if it is mostly top down? |
| 06:24.35 | Otixa | Render buildings onto skydome > profit |
| 06:24.38 | Otixa | Like that tower in hl2 |
| 06:24.50 | Otixa | It seems infinitely distant from the player camera |
| 06:24.50 | Xaragoth | its not about the view, more about the number of things shown |
| 06:24.54 | Xaragoth | you gotta test it though |
| 06:24.57 | Cryosis | what about scaling down units |
| 06:24.59 | Cryosis | oh |
| 06:25.07 | Cryosis | can I force a lower LOD? |
| 06:25.15 | Xaragoth | guess not |
| 06:25.16 | Cryosis | I guess I wouldn't need to |
| 06:25.17 | jorgenpt | NoOoOP!AW |
| 06:25.18 | Otixa | Teh polygones... Are gones... |
| 06:25.18 | jorgenpt | Ddfjg |
| 06:25.23 | jorgenpt | Why didn't I save? |
| 06:25.24 | jorgenpt | WHY!? |
| 06:25.25 | Xaragoth | its a RTS engine for that kind of view |
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| 06:25.34 | Otixa | jorgenpt, you phail! ;D |
| 06:25.39 | jorgenpt | Fuck you GE, FUCK YOU. |
| 06:25.40 | Cryosis | I want the same view... just.. farther out :P |
| 06:25.45 | Cryosis | I don't need units as much |
| 06:25.45 | Xaragoth | its not made for 3rd person or very, very far zoom |
| 06:25.46 | Otixa | Anyway, gonna go get more coffee |
| 06:25.49 | Xaragoth | maybe scale the world down? |
| 06:25.51 | Otixa | And liek a sandwich |
| 06:25.53 | Lilianna | RodOfNOD, Still need to look around, maybe I can eliminate Triggers completely from it at some point. I think that would be awesome |
| 06:25.59 | Cryosis | I can scale the buildings down |
| 06:26.01 | RodOfNOD | agreed Lilianna |
| 06:26.02 | Otixa | Mmm... sand witch... |
| 06:26.02 | Xaragoth | good idea Otixa |
| 06:26.06 | Cryosis | bbut would that actually help |
| 06:26.07 | Xaragoth | I could use breakfast |
| 06:26.14 | jorgenpt | Phew, not that much lost. |
| 06:26.15 | Xaragoth | you gotta try out, you know |
| 06:26.15 | Lilianna | It was my brilliant idea driving home from school yesterday |
| 06:26.18 | Xaragoth | I can't tell ya |
| 06:26.20 | Cryosis | I suppose |
| 06:26.21 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 06:26.21 | jorgenpt | Otixa: I'm glad to see you eating. |
| 06:26.26 | Otixa | Xaragoth, yaly. Because it's half past the future and we now need food |
| 06:26.27 | RodOfNOD | i love when i have those Lilianna |
| 06:26.30 | Cryosis | alright |
| 06:26.32 | Cryosis | off to bed |
| 06:26.41 | Xaragoth | all I know is that 50 trees with 3rd person view on ultra have a problem with being shot at. |
| 06:26.48 | Otixa | bites off Lilianna's face |
| 06:26.50 | Xaragoth | a BIG one |
| 06:26.52 | Otixa | disappears |
| 06:26.53 | Cryosis | lol |
| 06:26.54 | RodOfNOD | well im off to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz land |
| 06:26.57 | Lilianna | It helped that Prozaic released a tut today that showed exactly one thing I needed, and wasnt sure about |
| 06:27.07 | Xaragoth | though its great you can hide terrain |
| 06:27.12 | Xaragoth | in a certain radius |
| 06:27.13 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 06:27.24 | RaydenUni | hm |
| 06:27.27 | RaydenUni | the way i'm doing this is annoying |
| 06:27.29 | RaydenUni | duplication of data |
| 06:27.31 | jorgenpt | wtf |
| 06:27.35 | ProzaicMuze | That's right |
| 06:27.37 | RaydenUni | every weapon has an effect Set that randomly picks the target |
| 06:27.43 | RaydenUni | which means i have to set the range twice |
| 06:27.44 | ProzaicMuze | I made the WASD movement with my tutorial by proxy |
| 06:27.49 | Lilianna | haha |
| 06:27.49 | jorgenpt | It crashed again :( |
| 06:28.14 | Lilianna | sits on ProzaicMuze and ties a gag in his mouth. |
| 06:28.16 | Lilianna | You be quiet. |
| 06:29.05 | RodOfNOD | dont do that he likes that Lilianna : |
| 06:29.17 | Lilianna | But it keeps him quiet |
| 06:30.30 | ProzaicMuze | It depends on "how" you are sitting one me |
| 06:30.36 | ProzaicMuze | on* |
| 06:31.01 | jorgenpt | Hmm |
| 06:31.16 | jorgenpt | Is there no way to check if a player has an upgrade via Triggers? |
| 06:31.48 | Fromethius | jorgenpt |
| 06:31.49 | Fromethius | game is up |
| 06:31.52 | Fromethius | prozaicmuze join!!!!!! |
| 06:32.06 | Fromethius | =D |
| 06:32.08 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: How many players right now? |
| 06:32.10 | MavercK | so.much.rage. |
| 06:32.27 | MavercK | cant work this out. |
| 06:32.29 | Fromethius | jorgenpt: we're at 8/12 but we may go soon. it's night and is much harder to get players atm |
| 06:32.35 | jorgenpt | Okay |
| 06:33.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105) |
| 06:33.06 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 06:33.09 | onetwo | hi |
| 06:33.18 | onetwo | you corporate bastards |
| 06:33.23 | Lilianna | Oh hi |
| 06:33.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster dusthawk (~rmuzzey@69.73.16.202) |
| 06:33.57 | ProzaicMuze | I'm not corporate |
| 06:34.05 | ProzaicMuze | And you're the bastage |
| 06:34.18 | onetwo | hows your tutorials going |
| 06:34.21 | onetwo | are they going to be released soon |
| 06:34.23 | onetwo | or did i miss them |
| 06:34.26 | onetwo | i cant wait |
| 06:35.21 | Lilianna | onetwo, he's posted 4 now today I think |
| 06:35.49 | onetwo | oh wow |
| 06:35.52 | onetwo | hey ProzaicMuze |
| 06:36.00 | onetwo | if i want a frostbolt ability to make the target blue |
| 06:36.07 | Otixa | Fewd :D |
| 06:36.07 | jorgenpt | Hey guys |
| 06:36.09 | onetwo | does each unit in my map require an event in their actor |
| 06:36.11 | jorgenpt | Play Island Defense with us |
| 06:36.12 | jorgenpt | It's awesome |
| 06:36.13 | jorgenpt | :D |
| 06:36.16 | onetwo | or is there a faster way |
| 06:36.17 | jorgenpt | Got a pretty full game |
| 06:36.18 | ProzaicMuze | Nope |
| 06:36.19 | jorgenpt | Just a few more < |
| 06:36.20 | jorgenpt | <3 |
| 06:36.25 | Otixa | feeds Lilianna a spoonfull of ice |
| 06:36.26 | ProzaicMuze | Look at my new Panic/Berserk tutorial |
| 06:36.29 | onetwo | k |
| 06:36.30 | ProzaicMuze | The Berserk ability has your answer |
| 06:36.39 | Otixa | stabs onetwo |
| 06:36.40 | ProzaicMuze | And I've released 5 actually |
| 06:36.41 | ProzaicMuze | 3 more on the way |
| 06:36.42 | Otixa | stabs ProzaicMuze |
| 06:36.47 | ProzaicMuze | Then I can work on projects again |
| 06:36.50 | onetwo | woohoo |
| 06:36.59 | Otixa | Sup gaiz |
| 06:37.00 | ProzaicMuze | rapes Otixa's face with many rusty objects. |
| 06:37.01 | jorgenpt | Xackery: C'mon :D |
| 06:37.08 | Otixa | evades |
| 06:37.09 | Otixa | :D |
| 06:37.25 | ProzaicMuze | counter evades |
| 06:37.32 | Otixa | counter counter evades |
| 06:37.48 | Lilianna | Ice? :o |
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| 06:37.54 | jorgenpt | No-one? |
| 06:37.54 | Otixa | Ice ice baby :D |
| 06:38.00 | jorgenpt | C'mon, Island Defense is fun! |
| 06:38.04 | jorgenpt | (and not a traditional defense map) |
| 06:38.07 | Otixa | throws molten cheese at ProzaicMuze's face |
| 06:38.16 | Lilianna | ProzaicMuze, One more Tut for today? Then Update sig? |
| 06:38.24 | onetwo | awesome formatting |
| 06:38.33 | jorgenpt | New tuts out? |
| 06:38.37 | ProzaicMuze | phases out of existents |
| 06:38.38 | Otixa | Maybe I should make a tut :o |
| 06:38.40 | jorgenpt | What projects are you working on, ProzaicMuze? |
| 06:38.44 | Lilianna | onetwo, I made a WASD mocement that crosses into Data. :D |
| 06:38.50 | jorgenpt | (I've asked you before< i think) |
| 06:38.50 | Otixa | jorgenpt, gay porn, no doubt :D |
| 06:38.53 | Lilianna | somewhat |
| 06:38.55 | jorgenpt | Hawt |
| 06:38.58 | ProzaicMuze | @lily - sure, I'll update my signature after this next tutorial lol |
| 06:39.00 | jorgenpt | Otixa: Island Defense? =D |
| 06:39.04 | ProzaicMuze | no not Gay pron |
| 06:39.04 | Lilianna | ProzaicMuze, lol |
| 06:39.06 | Otixa | xD |
| 06:39.06 | ProzaicMuze | Ghey pr0n |
| 06:39.11 | Lilianna | Its just helpful to find them! |
| 06:39.14 | Otixa | pr0n* |
| 06:39.16 | onetwo | nice lilliana |
| 06:39.25 | Otixa | gaiz |
| 06:39.30 | Lilianna | I still want to get rid of all Triggers on it |
| 06:39.32 | ProzaicMuze | What she means is she stole my hard work and made something of it. |
| 06:39.36 | Lilianna | SO this is the halfway |
| 06:39.40 | Fromethius | anyone online US wanna play island defense? |
| 06:39.42 | Lilianna | Didint I gag you Prozaic? |
| 06:39.43 | Lilianna | :P |
| 06:39.47 | Otixa | What kinda tut should I do? About like modelling or texturing or design or something ;o |
| 06:40.07 | jorgenpt | Otixa: How to make a good leaderboard icon |
| 06:40.08 | ProzaicMuze | Clearly not well enough and not in a manner pleasing to myself ;) |
| 06:40.10 | jorgenpt | Otixa: (they're tiny!) |
| 06:40.16 | Otixa | >:| |
| 06:40.28 | RaydenUni | this unit can still see across high land |
| 06:40.29 | RaydenUni | arg |
| 06:40.51 | Otixa | Just make LOS blockers |
| 06:41.39 | jorgenpt | I wonder how SC2 would play if units were LOS blockers. |
| 06:41.40 | Otixa | Hmm |
| 06:42.03 | Otixa | Maybe I should do a tutorial on like modelling and texturing a simple pickup |
| 06:43.08 | Otixa | eats polygons |
| 06:43.27 | Lilianna | SpriteCraft 2 |
| 06:43.30 | Trager|546|US | jorgenpt: if you don't make a game like that, I will |
| 06:43.43 | Otixa | Lilianna, hell no >:[ |
| 06:43.50 | Lilianna | Hide your army behind the Ultralisk! |
| 06:43.53 | Trager|546|US | I'm feeling a topdown sidescroller |
| 06:44.07 | Otixa | Lilianna, should I do the tutorial? ;o |
| 06:44.13 | Lilianna | I dunno |
| 06:44.18 | Trager|546|US | I CALL THIS IDEA |
| 06:44.23 | *** part/#sc2mapster picklefish (~Shane@cpe-72-179-54-173.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 06:44.57 | Otixa | So noone cares then ¬_¬ |
| 06:45.05 | Otixa | Less work for me :D |
| 06:45.09 | Otixa | goes back to slacking |
| 06:45.13 | vxcriss | hey erhm... |
| 06:45.18 | vxcriss | what do I upload to sc2mapster |
| 06:45.37 | vxcriss | I want to upload the new map |
| 06:46.20 | vxcriss | just upload the same file I use in galaxy? |
| 06:46.59 | Otixa | Upload a photo of a cake |
| 06:47.42 | vxcriss | I only have photos of my balls |
| 06:48.30 | Otixa | Do not upload |
| 06:49.06 | vxcriss | too late :P |
| 06:49.51 | Otixa | We can get the photos on google anyway |
| 06:49.56 | Otixa | Just type in "grape" |
| 06:49.57 | Otixa | :P |
| 06:53.31 | Dogmai | so i am trying to make an item, but I do not have stats - item in the unit dialog |
| 06:55.04 | Xackery | Make sure the unit's Object Type is Item. make sure the top right Search: field is blank. |
| 06:55.09 | Otixa | Unga bunga |
| 06:57.05 | vxcriss | hey who does the images for the maps uploaded to sc2mapster |
| 06:57.17 | vxcriss | I can't find any image upload option |
| 06:57.48 | jorgenpt | Trager|546|US: Go ahead, make it! |
| 06:58.09 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: You not game for one more? :) |
| 06:58.35 | Fromethius | i would but i doubt it will fill up |
| 06:58.41 | onetwo | whats with every movie trailer insert 3d text into the scenes now |
| 06:58.42 | jorgenpt | Trager|546|US: You up for Island Defense? |
| 06:58.44 | Otixa | staples tits onto Fromethius |
| 06:58.55 | Dogmai | i am beginning to think the SEA editor is different from the NA editor |
| 06:58.58 | Fromethius | what is this i don't even |
| 06:59.00 | Trager|546|US | I should be sleeping |
| 06:59.05 | jorgenpt | Ah fawgit |
| 06:59.09 | Fromethius | everyone should be sleeping |
| 06:59.12 | Fromethius | i have to wake up in 4 hours |
| 06:59.13 | Trager|546|US | anyway, Fromethius still owes me code |
| 06:59.14 | Fromethius | sc2 more important |
| 06:59.15 | onetwo | Na its the seame |
| 06:59.18 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 06:59.20 | onetwo | puns ftw |
| 06:59.21 | Otixa | gropes Fromethius |
| 06:59.35 | Fromethius | otixia you're quite frisky tonight |
| 06:59.41 | Otixa | :> |
| 06:59.48 | *** join/#sc2mapster xritam (62cb979f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.203.151.159) |
| 06:59.57 | Dogmai | for instance onetwo, if you compare your videos to the editor i am using, there are quite a few differences |
| 06:59.59 | onetwo | 1/10 people are unemployed |
| 07:00.00 | Otixa | afk ;/ |
| 07:00.03 | Dogmai | granted, yours was an old version of the editor |
| 07:00.08 | onetwo | 1/2 people are frisky and hold it in |
| 07:00.34 | Phaos | hashdouahsd |
| 07:00.35 | *** part/#sc2mapster Oninji (~Oninji@modemcable210.124-58-74.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 07:01.25 | xritam | so i cant figure out how to get 1 model for the bio dome, by default it uses like 4 any help? |
| 07:01.34 | Trager|546|US | http://www.slate.com/id/2264478/ |
| 07:01.41 | jorgenpt | I'm gonna try one of these maps the young kids play today |
| 07:02.33 | Phaos | like nexus wars :P ? |
| 07:03.07 | Phaos | on SEA servers Nexus wars, red circle TD and standard TD are STILL the top 3 |
| 07:03.20 | Phaos | and there are no featured maps |
| 07:03.36 | Dogmai | cause no one from SEA has made a decent map yet |
| 07:03.44 | ProzaicMuze | Yeh know it's a bad sign when you spell SoundOneShot StonedOnShit |
| 07:03.46 | Phaos | trues |
| 07:03.52 | Dogmai | You have to remember, I do not believe that any SEA players were included in the beta |
| 07:03.53 | Phaos | :O |
| 07:03.54 | ProzaicMuze | mispell* |
| 07:04.05 | Dogmai | We are months behind the NA |
| 07:04.09 | vxcriss | the way the custom games are listed is just retarded, it's just impossible to get players in your map if you host it |
| 07:04.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~LordAbyss@uawifi-nat-210-24.arizona.edu) |
| 07:04.20 | ProzaicMuze | Well SEA doesn't have me >:D |
| 07:04.21 | Phaos | Hey Prozaic you have played with beams outside of a weapon actor right? |
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| 07:04.33 | Xolsom | xritam: That model is using variants, you should just create a new model and assign the one you want |
| 07:04.38 | vxcriss | I'm forced to play the same damn 3-4 maps all the time cause nobody plays the other |
| 07:04.45 | ProzaicMuze | @Phaos - indeed |
| 07:04.56 | LordAbyss | hey everyone |
| 07:04.59 | Xackery | What? I thought Lost Temple was # 1 for SEA :/ |
| 07:05.18 | Phaos | awesome. cos I'm trying to recreate the heal medic beam and it just doesn't cooperate. and I have a feeling it's to do with the signals |
| 07:05.44 | RaydenUni | wtf |
| 07:05.52 | RaydenUni | a unit that's worked perfeclty fine now doesn't have a model |
| 07:05.56 | Sixen | Phaos, there's no featured maps on SEA? |
| 07:05.57 | Phaos | lemme get you some hard data to scold me over |
| 07:06.02 | Phaos | no Sixen |
| 07:06.10 | Sixen | :( |
| 07:06.14 | Phaos | and like they said, because no one from SEA has released their own maps yet |
| 07:06.26 | Xolsom | It indeed would be better if they would just list the created games in the 'join listing'.. and all the maps in the 'create listing'... |
| 07:06.30 | Phaos | I'm working on changing that :P |
| 07:06.50 | ProzaicMuze | Its' probably because SEA is more multiplayer oriented |
| 07:06.56 | ProzaicMuze | Sad part is, the multiplayer sucks |
| 07:06.59 | ProzaicMuze | Their loss |
| 07:08.26 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 07:08.34 | Dogmai | Im trying to pump out my map asap |
| 07:08.54 | Dogmai | But we are just simply months behind NA, there is no other way to put it |
| 07:09.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 07:11.36 | Dogmai | phaos |
| 07:11.40 | Dogmai | what are you making? |
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| 07:13.27 | onetwo | ProzaicMuze |
| 07:13.28 | onetwo | Set Tint Color (Color: [255, 128, 128, HDR: 0.5]; Label: Enrage) - [Target: "::Host"] |
| 07:13.33 | onetwo | wheres this target thing |
| 07:13.50 | onetwo | is that a term im supposed to add? |
| 07:14.36 | Xtek | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/curse-data-center#utm_campaign=unknown&utm_source=5485124&utm_medium=social |
| 07:14.51 | Otixa | burps |
| 07:15.16 | ProzaicMuze | It's the upper right field |
| 07:15.23 | ProzaicMuze | above the normal event action values |
| 07:15.38 | onetwo | OH |
| 07:15.39 | onetwo | interesting |
| 07:15.41 | onetwo | i always ignored that |
| 07:15.43 | Xtek | we're setting up the new servers for MMO-C |
| 07:15.44 | onetwo | so its just ::Host |
| 07:15.45 | Xtek | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/curse-data-center#utm_campaign=unknown&utm_source=5485124&utm_medium=social <- |
| 07:15.46 | onetwo | with the :: |
| 07:15.48 | ProzaicMuze | Yep |
| 07:15.49 | RaydenUni | how the hell did this actor get changed to another actor? |
| 07:15.51 | onetwo | weird |
| 07:15.54 | onetwo | so undocumented |
| 07:15.54 | Sixen | Yay for Xtek |
| 07:15.55 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:15.55 | Sixen | ;) |
| 07:15.57 | ProzaicMuze | You can do ::Supporter, ::Creater etc |
| 07:15.59 | RaydenUni | all of a sudden "boop, different actor" |
| 07:16.09 | ProzaicMuze | It's documented, it's just never been used by anyone but me until now |
| 07:16.09 | Otixa | What? |
| 07:16.13 | onetwo | not even blizzard |
| 07:16.14 | Otixa | Static calls? |
| 07:16.17 | Otixa | IN MY EDITOR?! |
| 07:16.17 | onetwo | seeing how they did hallucinations |
| 07:16.17 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:16.19 | ProzaicMuze | Since I assume peopel thought that it was only useful for ::Supporter crap |
| 07:16.20 | Xtek | :P |
| 07:16.22 | ProzaicMuze | well yeah |
| 07:16.23 | ProzaicMuze | that was odd |
| 07:16.24 | Xtek | Sixen WTB +o |
| 07:16.26 | Xtek | <3 |
| 07:16.32 | ProzaicMuze | adding hallucination AND Graviton Beam to EVERYTHING |
| 07:16.36 | onetwo | omg |
| 07:16.38 | onetwo | tell me about it |
| 07:16.46 | rrowland | So this is weird |
| 07:16.55 | Otixa | What'd I miss? |
| 07:17.09 | rrowland | I can kill something over and over with units and it will fire the "unit has died" trigger |
| 07:17.26 | rrowland | but once it's been revived, if I use the kill unit action it doesn't fire the unit has died trigger |
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| 07:17.31 | rrowland | But it does if the unit hasn't died before |
| 07:17.38 | onetwo | weird |
| 07:17.40 | Otixa | rrowland unit hp < 1 |
| 07:17.41 | onetwo | rrowland |
| 07:17.43 | onetwo | it works for me on my map |
| 07:17.46 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 07:17.47 | onetwo | my heroes can revive multiple times |
| 07:17.53 | onetwo | using the trigger based |
| 07:17.53 | onetwo | revive |
| 07:18.12 | onetwo | make sure your death time isnt -1 |
| 07:18.18 | onetwo | just a litle bit longer than your wait time |
| 07:18.20 | onetwo | in triggers |
| 07:18.27 | onetwo | i think that screws it up |
| 07:18.28 | rrowland | The revive trigger works |
| 07:18.33 | rrowland | What doesn't work is |
| 07:18.34 | Otixa | kicks onetwo |
| 07:18.35 | Otixa | :D |
| 07:18.40 | rrowland | "Kill unit" |
| 07:18.41 | rrowland | It dies |
| 07:18.48 | rrowland | But it doesn't fire the "unit has died" trigger |
| 07:18.52 | rrowland | It does the first time |
| 07:18.55 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:18.56 | rrowland | But not any of the following times |
| 07:19.03 | onetwo | interesting.. |
| 07:19.06 | rrowland | Which seems really weird to me |
| 07:19.09 | onetwo | create a damage effect from a player |
| 07:19.10 | onetwo | instead |
| 07:19.13 | onetwo | and make it do 500000000 dmg |
| 07:19.14 | onetwo | or w/e |
| 07:19.15 | rrowland | Yeah that's my next step |
| 07:19.20 | onetwo | lol |
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| 07:20.10 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 07:20.11 | ProzaicMuze | You could just use the Kill flag for damage |
| 07:20.12 | Otixa | HOLY SHIT |
| 07:20.14 | ProzaicMuze | rather than 5bajillion dmg |
| 07:20.15 | Otixa | XKCD HAS COLOR |
| 07:20.17 | Otixa | OMG |
| 07:20.19 | Otixa | dies |
| 07:20.38 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 07:20.44 | Trager|546|US | backwards |
| 07:20.45 | Trager|546|US | read |
| 07:20.46 | Trager|546|US | i |
| 07:20.48 | Trager|546|US | engineers |
| 07:20.49 | Trager|546|US | highway |
| 07:20.55 | *** part/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@173-25-23-10.client.mchsi.com) |
| 07:20.59 | Trager|546|US | I'm missing a think |
| 07:21.02 | Otixa | ^ |
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| 07:21.09 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 07:21.25 | Fisker | aww man Sixen :( |
| 07:21.28 | Sixen | geez |
| 07:21.32 | Sixen | First I DC'ed |
| 07:21.36 | Sixen | then I crashed. then I hit the wrong button |
| 07:21.42 | Fisker | :P |
| 07:21.49 | Trager|546|US | you're having a bad night |
| 07:22.13 | Trager|546|US | what's a good movie? |
| 07:22.55 | RaydenUni | The Princess Bride |
| 07:23.14 | onetwo | eat pray love |
| 07:23.15 | onetwo | vampires suck |
| 07:23.29 | onetwo | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1302019/ hilarious movie name |
| 07:24.12 | Sixen | lol... Chevy Chsae is in it |
| 07:24.25 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:24.26 | Trager|546|US | Is he related to Chevy Chase? |
| 07:25.05 | Sixen | him to |
| 07:25.07 | Sixen | too* |
| 07:25.44 | RaydenUni | wtf |
| 07:25.45 | ProzaicMuze | Eat Pray Love is ghey |
| 07:25.46 | RaydenUni | this stuff is old |
| 07:25.49 | RaydenUni | i fixed this an hour ago! |
| 07:27.35 | Dogmai | sixen |
| 07:27.38 | rrowland | Yep doing damage to it from an effect worked |
| 07:27.39 | rrowland | btw |
| 07:27.53 | rrowland | In your revive tutorial you use a zealot so you don't really get this problem |
| 07:27.53 | Dogmai | did you manage to talk to any developers about allowing hotkeys for the command card to remain active when gameUI is hidden |
| 07:28.13 | rrowland | But when my unit dies and I resurrect him, his corpse is attached to the bottom of the actor for like 5 seconds |
| 07:28.20 | rrowland | Do you know how to get rid of the corpse faster? |
| 07:28.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Phaos (~Rorax@124-197-19-163.callplus.net.nz) |
| 07:28.30 | rrowland | Or detach it from the unit preferably |
| 07:28.39 | Dogmai | is the corpse the same unit |
| 07:28.40 | Dogmai | ? |
| 07:28.44 | rrowland | onetwo |
| 07:28.48 | rrowland | Yeah it's the revived unit |
| 07:29.16 | rrowland | I'm fearing I might have to open up the model and actually shorten the animation there |
| 07:29.16 | Trager|546|US | ~seen Trager|546|US |
| 07:29.19 | purl | trager|546|us is currently on #sc2mapster (15h 51m 16s). Has said a total of 50 messages. Is idling for 3s, last said: '~seen Trager|546|US '. |
| 07:29.26 | Trager|546|US | irc is destroying my life |
| 07:30.19 | Otixa | ~seen Otixa |
| 07:30.19 | purl | otixa is currently on #sc2mapster (1d 14h 33m 52s). Has said a total of 541 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen Otixa'. |
| 07:30.23 | Otixa | :D |
| 07:30.41 | Trager|546|US | WELL, I GUESS YOU HAVE LESS OF A LIFE THAN I DO |
| 07:30.46 | Trager|546|US | CONGRATULATIONS |
| 07:30.49 | Trager|546|US | :P |
| 07:30.51 | Otixa | :> |
| 07:30.52 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 07:31.06 | Otixa | Eff tee double you |
| 07:31.13 | Dogmai | ~seen dogmai |
| 07:31.13 | purl | dogmai is currently on #sc2mapster (4h 51m 50s). Has said a total of 17 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen dogmai'. |
| 07:31.20 | Dogmai | obvsly |
| 07:31.26 | Dogmai | stupid bot =\ |
| 07:31.41 | Otixa | I had like 250k+ messages on HTS :P |
| 07:31.54 | Otixa | Should prolly check on those tards some day <_< |
| 07:32.29 | Trager|546|US | anyone have a what.cd or waffles.fm account? |
| 07:32.45 | Otixa | not for you! |
| 07:33.12 | Otixa | cackles |
| 07:33.15 | RaydenUni | missiles are much more satisfying than laser weapons it turns out |
| 07:33.18 | RaydenUni | more visually exciting |
| 07:33.18 | Trager|546|US | nooooo |
| 07:33.23 | Trager|546|US | swap invites? |
| 07:33.32 | Otixa | I don't have accounts thar :B |
| 07:33.43 | Trager|546|US | you're a tease |
| 07:33.51 | Otixa | Yarly >:] |
| 07:34.18 | Trager|546|US | I wish you could pirate hardware |
| 07:34.23 | Otixa | You can |
| 07:34.25 | Otixa | :> |
| 07:34.26 | Dogmai | did blizzard remove the ability to add different water types |
| 07:34.30 | Otixa | I do :P |
| 07:34.33 | Trager|546|US | yea, but it's a bit more risky |
| 07:34.37 | Dogmai | i am sure you were able to add water types from other terrains before |
| 07:34.49 | Otixa | Open tech > inspect > buy same parts > solder > win |
| 07:35.18 | Trager|546|US | thats not piracy |
| 07:35.24 | Trager|546|US | that's smart consumerism |
| 07:35.47 | Otixa | Well, you can prolly DL schematics on the net |
| 07:35.53 | Otixa | Then it'd be piracy ;p |
| 07:35.57 | Trager|546|US | yarr |
| 07:37.14 | Otixa | burns Trager|546|US |
| 07:37.31 | Trager|546|US | I'm a pirate, not a witch! |
| 07:37.39 | Otixa | burns Trager|546|US anyway |
| 07:37.45 | Otixa | Actually |
| 07:37.49 | Otixa | burns Lilianna |
| 07:37.52 | Otixa | There we go |
| 07:37.53 | Trager|546|US | gyarr, me pegleg's on fire |
| 07:37.54 | vxcriss | hey does anyone know how I can upload a screenshot on sc2mapster for my map? the file upload option is just for map files |
| 07:38.29 | Otixa | stabs vxcriss |
| 07:38.45 | Otixa | imageshack.us |
| 07:38.54 | vxcriss | sorry I didn't make the site... |
| 07:38.57 | Huesy | Use "Upload Image" as seen here: http://www.ahughes.net/banter/a9ab38bbb705c2ae60182204315f5468.png |
| 07:39.58 | vxcriss | I don't have that panel anywhere |
| 07:40.03 | vxcriss | would have spotted it |
| 07:40.12 | vxcriss | oh... it's not expanded |
| 07:40.13 | Trager|546|US | how do I hide the notification saying a player was defeated? |
| 07:40.14 | vxcriss | wow |
| 07:40.23 | vxcriss | what moron made this site, terrible usability |
| 07:40.44 | vxcriss | thanks for the link Heusy |
| 07:40.47 | Otixa | points at Sixen |
| 07:40.48 | Otixa | :D |
| 07:40.51 | Trager|546|US | I use it for pasting and that's it |
| 07:41.06 | rulssi | its pretty messed up on google chrome also :/ |
| 07:41.16 | rulssi | but well.. css is hard language |
| 07:41.31 | Otixa | So is English, obviously :D |
| 07:41.36 | Otixa | gloats |
| 07:41.39 | rulssi | it is :( |
| 07:41.57 | vxcriss | well I'm not talking about the programming, talking about usability |
| 07:42.01 | vxcriss | it's hard to get around |
| 07:42.01 | Sixen | vxcriss: Project Management > Upload Image |
| 07:42.03 | Sixen | It's not hard to use. |
| 07:42.07 | vxcriss | found it |
| 07:42.14 | Otixa | Sixen, l2webdev >:[ |
| 07:42.16 | Otixa | nub! |
| 07:42.18 | Sixen | I didn't make it |
| 07:42.22 | vxcriss | the problem is that the project management tab was collapsed by default, didn't thought of clicking on it |
| 07:42.22 | Otixa | :< |
| 07:42.22 | Sixen | If I made it, it'd be very easy. |
| 07:42.27 | Otixa | Well |
| 07:42.31 | Otixa | l2manage! |
| 07:42.35 | Otixa | or something ._. |
| 07:42.35 | vxcriss | it's ok I found it now |
| 07:42.39 | Sixen | *clicks submit* and gets an erro "HEY GIMME A SCREENSHOT" |
| 07:42.40 | Otixa | <insult goes here> |
| 07:42.42 | Sixen | and boom. problem fixed. |
| 07:42.54 | vxcriss | I like to critisize, I'm a webdev by job |
| 07:42.55 | Sixen | k I have to go back to sleep. |
| 07:42.59 | Otixa | Sixen, let's do a rewrite \o/ |
| 07:42.59 | Sixen | :P |
| 07:43.10 | Sixen | I have to wake up for classes in like 4 hours |
| 07:43.11 | Sixen | :( |
| 07:43.17 | Otixa | PHPs! Ungh unghhhh! (>^_^(>O_o)> |
| 07:43.25 | Otixa | Sixen, redbull > sleep |
| 07:43.26 | Sixen | Site's in Python |
| 07:43.28 | Sixen | lol |
| 07:43.31 | Otixa | AARGHHHH |
| 07:43.32 | Otixa | FUCK |
| 07:43.35 | Otixa | GET IT THE FUCK OFF ME |
| 07:43.39 | Otixa | screams |
| 07:43.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster TeddyFace (Teddy@adsl-75-26-165-248.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:43.51 | vxcriss | look at this beauty |
| 07:43.51 | vxcriss | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/war-games-sim-331/images/1-war-games-sim-331/ |
| 07:43.52 | Sixen | ;p |
| 07:44.01 | Sixen | perfect. |
| 07:44.07 | Otixa | stabs Sixen for using anything other than PHP >:[ |
| 07:44.08 | Sixen | project management > resubmit for approal |
| 07:44.17 | Sixen | gogo, so I can approve and sleep :P |
| 07:44.18 | vxcriss | I'm a fan of javascript |
| 07:44.28 | Otixa | vxcriss, kewl screenshot :D |
| 07:44.37 | vxcriss | took some trimming :P |
| 07:44.39 | Otixa | vxcriss, I take that back. You suck >:[ |
| 07:44.45 | vxcriss | fu too |
| 07:44.53 | Otixa | Sixen, ban anyone who uses a Mac and likes JS |
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| 07:45.07 | vxcriss | I don't use mac I'm not american :P |
| 07:45.07 | Otixa | swings scythe |
| 07:45.11 | Sixen | lol |
| 07:45.18 | Sixen | vxcriss: I'm approving your map |
| 07:45.34 | Sixen | merry christmas |
| 07:45.40 | rulssi | hey is it possible to copy terrain? |
| 07:45.41 | vxcriss | ty XOXO |
| 07:45.43 | Tordecybombo | happy thanksgiving |
| 07:45.53 | Sixen | yes rulssi, just select, CTRL+C and CTRL+V |
| 07:45.56 | Otixa | happy stabday |
| 07:46.02 | Sixen | k sleep. night. |
| 07:46.10 | rulssi | last time i tried that it didnt work O_o |
| 07:46.10 | Otixa | bai nub! |
| 07:46.45 | rulssi | ah, so thats how it works |
| 07:47.03 | Otixa | Code monkey :D |
| 07:47.29 | Tordecybombo | vxcriss that map looks cool :) |
| 07:47.37 | vxcriss | here's a question, if you start a custom game, and then switch it to public, do people see it on top of the map list or would you just wait like an idiot for hours and nobody would ever see your match |
| 07:47.39 | vxcriss | ty :P |
| 07:47.55 | Tordecybombo | you'll have to advertise a bit :/ |
| 07:48.03 | vxcriss | cause I waited for like 15 min and nobody joined and gave up |
| 07:48.10 | Otixa | Also |
| 07:48.15 | Otixa | vxcriss, about your map |
| 07:48.21 | Otixa | The only winning move is not to play |
| 07:48.26 | Otixa | That's why noone joined :D |
| 07:48.35 | vxcriss | lol |
| 07:48.39 | vxcriss | I just don't think anyone sees them |
| 07:48.41 | vxcriss | at all |
| 07:49.16 | Otixa | Coffee cake plz. |
| 07:49.54 | Tordecybombo | you'll have to adverstise because new maps will be at the bottom of the list |
| 07:50.05 | Tordecybombo | if no one knows about it they won't join D; |
| 07:50.19 | Tordecybombo | if people like it, it'll get more and more played and move up the list hopefully |
| 07:50.20 | vxcriss | I miss wc3 already |
| 07:50.35 | vxcriss | the EU server has a lot of crap on the first 3 pages |
| 07:50.42 | vxcriss | the only good one is the card game |
| 07:51.06 | Otixa | Tordecybombo, we don't like you >:[ |
| 07:51.20 | vxcriss | hey I like him, cause he said my map looks nice |
| 07:51.22 | Tordecybombo | :(((( |
| 07:51.35 | Otixa | I'm a ninja |
| 07:51.39 | Otixa | It's your birthday |
| 07:51.40 | Otixa | I'm a ninja |
| 07:51.40 | Otixa | It's your birthday |
| 07:51.41 | Otixa | I'm a ninja |
| 07:51.42 | Otixa | It's your birthday |
| 07:51.44 | Otixa | etc. |
| 07:51.48 | Tordecybombo | hi Otixa |
| 07:52.04 | Otixa | hi Tordecybombo :D |
| 07:53.07 | Otixa | I hate early mornings ¬_¬ |
| 07:53.10 | Otixa | So... slow... |
| 07:53.14 | Otixa | ...So... Boring! |
| 07:53.24 | Tordecybombo | hi |
| 07:53.31 | Otixa | It's like even the atoms are slowing down |
| 07:53.35 | Otixa | And grinding to a halt |
| 07:53.45 | Tordecybombo | at least there's a helm's deep map |
| 07:53.46 | Otixa | As the world is consumed by boredom and nothingness |
| 07:53.54 | Otixa | One huge abyss of boredom |
| 07:54.03 | Otixa | And it stares at you with it's nothingness |
| 07:54.05 | rulssi | are you talking about WoW? |
| 07:54.07 | Otixa | And it consumes you |
| 07:54.12 | Otixa | Boredom grown inside of you |
| 07:54.18 | Otixa | And slowly, you care of nothing |
| 07:54.19 | vxcriss | btw who decides which maps are featured? the 2 maps that are featured right now are pretty bad |
| 07:54.20 | Otixa | <_< |
| 07:54.21 | Otixa | >_> |
| 07:54.34 | vxcriss | at least on EU, not sure about the others |
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| 07:54.39 | rulssi | vxcriss: blizzard supports those who make bad maps |
| 07:54.41 | rulssi | so they could improve |
| 07:54.52 | Trager|546|US | that's dumb |
| 07:54.54 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/9021-data-force-effects-intermediate-difficulty/ |
| 07:54.55 | Otixa | I wanna kick blizz in the face |
| 07:54.56 | vxcriss | I should make a big empty map with an scv on it |
| 07:55.09 | Trager|546|US | how about they fix their bullshit popularity system |
| 07:55.48 | Tordecybombo | yea do that |
| 07:55.58 | vxcriss | the amount of new maps that launch each day is huge, and they have only 2 featured / week... |
| 07:56.17 | Tordecybombo | awesome tutorial |
| 07:56.28 | Tordecybombo | is it like that force effect the hybrid uses? |
| 07:56.38 | Tordecybombo | or that uberlisk death that was showcased at blizzcon 09? |
| 07:56.58 | Otixa | Tordecybombo, it's like cake |
| 07:57.08 | Tordecybombo | it's so cool |
| 07:57.12 | Tordecybombo | i want that for one my bosses |
| 07:57.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster crazyfingers (ae41342b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.65.52.43) |
| 07:57.44 | Tordecybombo | crazyfingers!!!!! |
| 07:57.48 | Tordecybombo | snazzy fingas! |
| 07:57.53 | Tordecybombo | spirit fingas! |
| 07:57.58 | crazyfingers | howdy :D |
| 07:58.05 | Lilianna | ProzaicMuze, Ooh those look fun! |
| 07:58.08 | Otixa | crazyfingers, do you like fish dicks? |
| 07:58.15 | ProzaicMuze | :D |
| 07:58.20 | ProzaicMuze | I figure 6 is good enough for now |
| 07:58.20 | Otixa | Lilianna, anser me, ye witch! >:[ |
| 07:58.22 | crazyfingers | i love fish dicks |
| 07:58.22 | ProzaicMuze | updating my siggy |
| 07:58.26 | casperb | ProzaicMuze: you've been a busy bee o.o |
| 07:58.33 | Otixa | crazyfingers, what are you? A gay fish? D:< |
| 07:58.34 | ProzaicMuze | I was behind, gotta catch up lol |
| 07:58.48 | Lilianna | Answer you these questions three? |
| 07:58.50 | crazyfingers | I am a disturbed human |
| 07:59.05 | Otixa | Lilianna, answe my questions three. |
| 07:59.09 | Otixa | Lilianna, see PM |
| 07:59.12 | Lilianna | What questions? |
| 07:59.17 | Lilianna | I dont have any models to show |
| 07:59.25 | Otixa | Well wtf then? >:[ |
| 07:59.28 | Otixa | burns Lilianna |
| 07:59.29 | Lilianna | they are off hidden in la la land, and Im too tired to find them |
| 07:59.37 | crazyfingers | i got a question for you guys though, has anyone figured out how to update execute location in real time with the location of the mouse cursor, or do you have to do it based on clicks? |
| 07:59.50 | vxcriss | ah nn all, 11am the perfect time to go to bed, cyaz |
| 07:59.58 | Otixa | bai nub |
| 08:00.02 | Otixa | Bah, too late >:| |
| 08:00.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster General13372 (~support@71-84-244-55.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 08:00.15 | Otixa | Lilianna, go find models now! |
| 08:00.17 | Otixa | roars |
| 08:00.21 | Lilianna | No. :p |
| 08:00.21 | Tordecybombo | prozaic can you update your tutorials list |
| 08:00.23 | Tordecybombo | i love em |
| 08:00.29 | Otixa | Yes. >:[ |
| 08:00.38 | Otixa | I'll stab you for 'em |
| 08:00.39 | casperb | crazyfingers: no way to get mouse x,y |
| 08:00.47 | Tordecybombo | hi casperb |
| 08:00.47 | crazyfingers | and that's baed on clicks? |
| 08:00.53 | crazyfingers | oh wait nm |
| 08:00.56 | Tordecybombo | hi crazyfingers |
| 08:00.59 | Lilianna | I dont have the models, at best I have some pictures of them, and they are all from 5+ years ago |
| 08:01.00 | crazyfingers | oh vell, thanks casperb |
| 08:01.03 | casperb | crazyfingers: can get camera target x,y |
| 08:01.14 | casperb | but then mouse clicks etc are disabled |
| 08:01.23 | crazyfingers | ahh, boo |
| 08:01.24 | Otixa | Lilianna, fail >:[ |
| 08:01.26 | casperb | actually |
| 08:01.28 | crazyfingers | i'll work around it |
| 08:01.36 | casperb | what style of map? |
| 08:01.40 | crazyfingers | had a backup system in mind if xy wouldn't update in real time |
| 08:01.40 | Lilianna | Why do you care anyways? |
| 08:01.51 | Otixa | Lilianna, I spy on the competition ¬_¬ |
| 08:01.57 | Lilianna | Im not competition |
| 08:02.04 | Otixa | Orly?! |
| 08:02.08 | Otixa | bursts into flames |
| 08:02.11 | Lilianna | I dont like modelling |
| 08:02.11 | crazyfingers | it's so bunk we can't share our maps for the competition |
| 08:02.18 | crazyfingers | would love to talk to you guys about what i'm working on :P |
| 08:02.18 | Lilianna | I only do it as necessary |
| 08:02.26 | Otixa | Well, modelling doesn't like you either >:[ |
| 08:02.29 | ProzaicMuze | Tordecy, I'm already working on updating my list |
| 08:02.37 | ProzaicMuze | I just made all the TinyURLs |
| 08:02.38 | casperb | Modeling <3 |
| 08:02.41 | Otixa | takes his modelling and goes to play in another sandbox |
| 08:02.42 | ProzaicMuze | gotta tag my siggy |
| 08:02.49 | casperb | Only thing better than modeling is painting |
| 08:02.56 | casperb | That might because oil paints get you high tho :o |
| 08:03.03 | Otixa | We'll have a wonderful garden party and you're not invited! |
| 08:03.05 | casperb | might be * |
| 08:03.05 | Otixa | Hmph! |
| 08:03.09 | rulssi | why doesnt textures snap to grid -_- |
| 08:03.23 | casperb | rulssi: because it's a vmap weight system |
| 08:03.51 | casperb | selecting the vertices would be optimal, but meh no support for it -.- |
| 08:04.01 | Otixa | I'm bored, guys ;/ |
| 08:04.05 | Otixa | So... very... bored... |
| 08:04.07 | Otixa | :< |
| 08:04.17 | casperb | Play a game, or do something productive |
| 08:04.25 | Otixa | But I dun wanna! |
| 08:04.27 | Otixa | WAHHHHHHHH |
| 08:04.31 | Otixa | whines |
| 08:04.34 | rulssi | i need 50 waves of units for my TD..now GO! |
| 08:05.23 | ProzaicMuze | nooooooo my siggy is too long again |
| 08:05.30 | ProzaicMuze | Seriously, the signature needs to be longer than 500chars :( |
| 08:05.32 | ProzaicMuze | So ghey |
| 08:05.45 | Otixa | kicks ProzaicMuze |
| 08:08.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster soundsnc (~soundsnc@S010600265ac4c816.rd.shawcable.net) |
| 08:08.45 | ProzaicMuze | gah, how is it STILL too long!? |
| 08:08.46 | ProzaicMuze | GHEY GHEY GHEY |
| 08:10.06 | ProzaicMuze | Word says it's 498chars |
| 08:10.09 | ProzaicMuze | and 500 is the max |
| 08:10.12 | ProzaicMuze | but it won't accept it :( |
| 08:10.13 | ProzaicMuze | Stupid |
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| 08:11.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster Otixa (Otixa@87-126-143-97.btc-net.bg) |
| 08:11.16 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 08:11.18 | Otixa | bluescreen |
| 08:12.23 | Otixa | I see you |
| 08:14.04 | ProzaicMuze | WTF |
| 08:14.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster rrowland (~Ryan@pool-71-103-164-22.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 08:14.07 | ProzaicMuze | This thing is retarded |
| 08:14.11 | ProzaicMuze | it won't event accept 10char entries |
| 08:16.15 | ProzaicMuze | ok this is just stupid. . . |
| 08:16.17 | ProzaicMuze | Sixen |
| 08:16.30 | ProzaicMuze | Make signatures have larger char limits plz |
| 08:16.32 | ProzaicMuze | Or I quit |
| 08:16.35 | ProzaicMuze | :D |
| 08:16.55 | Tordecybombo | HEYA |
| 08:19.33 | Otixa | ProzaicMuze, why the fuck would you need more chars? |
| 08:19.46 | ProzaicMuze | Because I want to make more links to my tutorials |
| 08:19.51 | ProzaicMuze | Right now if you click on my name on the forum |
| 08:20.05 | ProzaicMuze | It goes to my page and my signature makes a nice list right there of all my tutorials |
| 08:20.12 | ProzaicMuze | I'd like to continue expanding that list |
| 08:20.25 | Otixa | Or like |
| 08:20.31 | Otixa | Make a thread with all your tutorials |
| 08:20.47 | Otixa | And not have people scroll for half an hour to get to the next post |
| 08:20.48 | Otixa | mhm? |
| 08:20.53 | Otixa | The limit is there for a reason |
| 08:20.54 | ProzaicMuze | Then they have to go to the tutorial thread to know that thread exists |
| 08:21.00 | ProzaicMuze | I can easily turn my signature off |
| 08:21.03 | ProzaicMuze | but keep it on my profile |
| 08:21.11 | Otixa | Your sig isn't supposed to be a place to write your life story |
| 08:21.11 | ProzaicMuze | And the limit is there for idiots who want to spam |
| 08:21.11 | ProzaicMuze | I'm not spamming |
| 08:21.17 | ProzaicMuze | I'm, not |
| 08:21.24 | ProzaicMuze | I'm making life easier for everyone here |
| 08:21.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster Wartex (~wartex88@h71n2fls34o898.telia.com) |
| 08:21.35 | Otixa | Add a link to your tutorial thread |
| 08:21.41 | Otixa | That should be more than enough |
| 08:22.04 | ProzaicMuze | I'd prefer a method that doesn't make more threads |
| 08:22.43 | Otixa | Having one thread more is better than having 50 lines more to scroll through |
| 08:23.19 | crazyfingers | getting an odd error, in game varients and in the game lobby a player can be on team 2, but once the game launches they're on team 1, anyone else have this issue? |
| 08:23.36 | ProzaicMuze | Lol |
| 08:23.40 | ProzaicMuze | You don't have to scroll through it |
| 08:23.43 | ProzaicMuze | I can turn it off |
| 08:24.02 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
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| 08:24.06 | Otixa | punches ProzaicMuze |
| 08:24.13 | ProzaicMuze | ignores Otixa's whining |
| 08:24.18 | Otixa | Withdrawal isn't helping |
| 08:24.19 | Tordecybombo | you're chassin love!!! |
| 08:24.20 | Tordecybombo | :] |
| 08:24.22 | Otixa | goes to the store |
| 08:26.15 | ProzaicMuze | aha |
| 08:26.16 | ProzaicMuze | better idea |
| 08:26.22 | ProzaicMuze | I'll make another sticky |
| 08:26.31 | ProzaicMuze | Because having yet another sticky by me is a gret idea |
| 08:26.32 | ProzaicMuze | great* |
| 08:28.37 | Otixa | Mmm... cigs |
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| 08:31.56 | Zaraf | it seems like preloading sounds doesn't do anything in SC2 just like it did nothing in WC3 |
| 08:32.10 | Tordecybombo | Prozaic do you know re-executable means |
| 08:32.19 | Tordecybombo | for ability flags |
| 08:32.45 | ProzaicMuze | I think it means you can start an ability over |
| 08:32.52 | ProzaicMuze | Like if you have a bunch of phase durations |
| 08:33.20 | ProzaicMuze | And rather than cancel, you want to just start over, you'd flag it for re-executable and it would start over without losing energy. |
| 08:33.26 | ProzaicMuze | Not sure, but it's my best guess |
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| 08:39.24 | Phaos | KERRIGAN DISCOVERED THE LOCATION OF MY ARTIFACTS ALL HOPE IS LOST |
| 08:39.35 | Zaraf | you playing campaign? |
| 08:39.51 | Phaos | yeah, for acheivments |
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| 08:40.36 | Otixa | stabs Phaos |
| 08:41.26 | Phaos | ouch my squiggly spooge |
| 08:41.31 | Otixa | :D |
| 08:44.23 | Zaraf | Does the Nydus worm have a timed life? |
| 08:47.37 | Otixa | Eat my shorts |
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| 08:49.34 | Otixa | Tinman, eat my shorts |
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| 08:50.33 | Tinman | eats Otixa's shorts |
| 08:50.50 | Tinman | mmm, short flavored |
| 08:50.59 | Otixa | xD |
| 08:52.41 | Dogmai | out of curiosity, why doesn't the port zion water show in game like it does in the editor |
| 08:54.19 | Otixa | It hates you :D |
| 08:54.26 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/9026-prozaics-past-poll-winners/ |
| 08:54.29 | ProzaicMuze | There, happy Otixa? |
| 08:54.36 | Dogmai | i know that =\ |
| 08:55.23 | Otixa | pats ProzaicMuze on the face |
| 08:55.29 | Otixa | Good girl :D |
| 08:55.37 | ProzaicMuze | Oh please |
| 08:55.46 | ProzaicMuze | I could eat you for breffast lil' man |
| 08:56.11 | Tordecybombo | guess |
| 08:56.11 | Tordecybombo | what |
| 08:56.13 | Tordecybombo | chicken butt |
| 08:56.17 | Otixa | ^ |
| 08:56.51 | Tordecybombo | prozaic is there a level beyond Advnced |
| 08:56.53 | Tordecybombo | like super man |
| 08:56.59 | Wartex | If I give shields to a terran unit, should the protoss shield effect kick in automatically or do I have to do a lot of "event +"-ing to make that happen? |
| 08:57.37 | Otixa | Tordecybombo, that's be "ub3r pr0 omg" |
| 08:57.47 | Otixa | s/s/d/g |
| 08:57.54 | Xaragoth | Wartex: Depends ... for my stuff, it showed at least the reflect thingy |
| 08:57.59 | Xaragoth | you know these giant riples |
| 08:58.10 | Xaragoth | when some stuff hits em |
| 08:58.13 | Otixa | Xaragoth, eat my shorts |
| 08:58.22 | Wartex | yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Not showing up on my medic |
| 08:58.22 | Xaragoth | Otixa, you don't have any. |
| 08:58.29 | Otixa | Orite D: |
| 08:58.32 | Otixa | Suck my rocket then! |
| 08:58.41 | Xaragoth | you don't have a rocket |
| 08:58.48 | Otixa | Lies |
| 08:58.49 | Tordecybombo | dynamic beam chain |
| 08:58.50 | Tordecybombo | oooo |
| 08:58.57 | Tordecybombo | so like chain lightning type thingy |
| 08:59.02 | Xaragoth | indeed |
| 08:59.50 | Tordecybombo | damn these all look so complicated |
| 09:00.04 | Xaragoth | its not |
| 09:00.04 | Tordecybombo | the most complicated thing i have in my map is a colliding missile :/ |
| 09:00.06 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 09:00.14 | ProzaicMuze | The level beyond Advanced is "Prozaic's Map" |
| 09:00.33 | Tordecybombo | i cant imagine what could be in that map! :o |
| 09:00.40 | Xaragoth | I thought it was "Heart Of The Swarm Editor Update" |
| 09:00.49 | Xaragoth | where they overhaul it 100% |
| 09:00.55 | Xaragoth | and we start from scratch |
| 09:01.01 | jorgenpt | hehe |
| 09:01.10 | Xaragoth | oh and water is no longer a plane, but also a circle thingy |
| 09:01.17 | Xaragoth | and you can have a creep brush |
| 09:01.26 | Xaragoth | and deep cliffs can have creep |
| 09:01.27 | Tordecybombo | Prozaic can you figure how to duplicate the mothership's timebomb? |
| 09:01.30 | Xaragoth | oh, oh and the roadtool is good! |
| 09:01.33 | Tordecybombo | the part where the projectiles fall down |
| 09:02.11 | Tordecybombo | Im breaking wind! |
| 09:02.18 | ProzaicMuze | I probably could, yeah |
| 09:02.19 | jorgenpt | Good to know |
| 09:02.31 | jorgenpt | Anyway |
| 09:02.31 | Xaragoth | you mean where the physics kick in? |
| 09:02.34 | jorgenpt | Good night! |
| 09:02.41 | Xaragoth | but its 11 am here |
| 09:02.45 | Xaragoth | it can't be good night |
| 09:02.48 | Tordecybombo | physics is the hardest part |
| 09:02.48 | Xaragoth | its good anything |
| 09:02.49 | Xaragoth | ! |
| 09:02.50 | Tordecybombo | :o |
| 09:02.52 | jorgenpt | 2am :-p |
| 09:02.57 | Tordecybombo | dont leave |
| 09:02.57 | Tordecybombo | :/ |
| 09:02.59 | Xaragoth | yeah, well |
| 09:03.02 | Xaragoth | i wake up at 8 pm |
| 09:03.04 | Tordecybombo | stay |
| 09:03.06 | Tordecybombo | have a drink with us! |
| 09:03.08 | Tordecybombo | :( |
| 09:03.11 | jorgenpt | Aww, that's touching |
| 09:03.13 | Xaragoth | and stay alive till dusk |
| 09:03.15 | jorgenpt | But my beer is all out |
| 09:03.22 | jorgenpt | And my wife is already good'n passed out. |
| 09:03.24 | jorgenpt | Time to make my move. |
| 09:03.25 | jorgenpt | :D |
| 09:03.47 | Tordecybombo | im not a goon |
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| 09:04.13 | jorgenpt | ;-) |
| 09:04.15 | HR_ | my map is DONE! |
| 09:04.27 | jorgenpt | Woot |
| 09:04.35 | HR_ | its fricken mario kart |
| 09:04.35 | jorgenpt | I think you're doing it wrong |
| 09:04.39 | jorgenpt | (What map) |
| 09:04.49 | Xaragoth | okay |
| 09:04.50 | HR_ | who wants to race |
| 09:04.52 | Xaragoth | so you have mario kart |
| 09:04.59 | Xaragoth | i'll call nintendo |
| 09:05.17 | Xaragoth | and tell them its a great idea to redo it for the PC 'n stuff |
| 09:05.23 | Xaragoth | are you US or EU? |
| 09:05.26 | HR_ | us |
| 09:05.30 | Tordecybombo | DOOM |
| 09:05.30 | Xaragoth | bad for you |
| 09:05.35 | Xaragoth | put it up for Custom Live though |
| 09:05.40 | Xaragoth | we can test it |
| 09:05.41 | HR_ | its not Called mario kart |
| 09:05.45 | Xaragoth | and tell you if it sucks |
| 09:05.51 | Tordecybombo | is it called Star Kart? |
| 09:05.57 | HR_ | SC Rally |
| 09:06.00 | Tordecybombo | close enough |
| 09:06.06 | HR_ | join suckas |
| 09:06.13 | Xaragoth | Rock N' Roll Racing 2 !plx! |
| 09:06.16 | Tordecybombo | does it use the driving system physics? |
| 09:06.32 | HR_ | join join join SC Rally US HrPuffinstuf join fools |
| 09:06.40 | Tordecybombo | cant wait to see that rock n roll racing map |
| 09:06.46 | Tordecybombo | someone's developed it and it's so cool |
| 09:06.57 | Tordecybombo | got the missiles and everything |
| 09:06.58 | Tordecybombo | yessaaaa |
| 09:07.11 | Zaraf | Rock N Roll Racing was awesome |
| 09:07.30 | Zaraf | one of my favorite SNES games |
| 09:07.38 | Tordecybombo | how do i make it so only different units of the same type can stack behaviors |
| 09:07.48 | Tordecybombo | so this unit has an attack that applies a buff |
| 09:07.52 | HR_ | cpu drivers |
| 09:08.06 | Tordecybombo | the buff stacks BUT only stack based on # of those units |
| 09:08.12 | Tordecybombo | so a single unit cannot stack |
| 09:08.40 | Tordecybombo | whoops |
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| 09:08.44 | HR_ | validators maybe? |
| 09:08.45 | Tordecybombo | that was dumb |
| 09:08.48 | Tordecybombo | of me |
| 09:08.50 | Tordecybombo | :) |
| 09:08.51 | Tordecybombo | (: |
| 09:09.07 | HR_ | join my new map, SC Rally, on US |
| 09:09.16 | Tordecybombo | do stacked behaviors refresh old behaviors? |
| 09:09.24 | Tordecybombo | refresh the duration |
| 09:09.28 | HR_ | ya |
| 09:09.32 | Tordecybombo | DAMN |
| 09:10.49 | Tordecybombo | whatever wasusp boy |
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| 09:30.24 | rrowland | woah woah |
| 09:30.31 | rrowland | did they lift the 2mb trigger limit? |
| 09:34.20 | HR_ | how could you use 2mb? |
| 09:34.41 | HR_ | i have a chess AI, thats like 40k |
| 09:34.42 | rrowland | lots of cutscenes, bossfights, etc |
| 09:35.14 | rrowland | And there's no way that's 40k unless you're using script only |
| 09:35.25 | HR_ | ya its custom script |
| 09:35.28 | rrowland | The trigger file has a ton of xml overhead |
| 09:35.38 | HR_ | really... |
| 09:35.46 | HR_ | i should convert all to custom script then? |
| 09:36.05 | HR_ | it takes up two script sections cause its too big |
| 09:36.10 | rrowland | Well I just ran my map with 2.02mb of trigger files and it worked |
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| 09:36.17 | Leaderboard | Hi everyone |
| 09:36.22 | rrowland | So wherever I heard about that limit might have been wrong |
| 09:36.28 | HR_ | i finished my first person battle racing map but i cant find any players ! |
| 09:36.55 | Leaderboard | Someone have any idea ? When I launch the game I have this error message : "Out of range - Please change signal timing" |
| 09:37.25 | HR_ | thats some scary error bro |
| 09:37.31 | rrowland | signal timing lol |
| 09:37.34 | rrowland | never seen that before |
| 09:38.02 | HR_ | sigint(boot world) |
| 09:38.26 | HR_ | someone join! SC Rally on US |
| 09:39.14 | HR_ | how do you get a map played enough to even get it on the list |
| 09:40.06 | rrowland | Make a really bad map |
| 09:40.06 | HR_ | i should upload to forums or something |
| 09:40.06 | HR_ | ah haha |
| 09:40.06 | rrowland | And it'll fly to the top |
| 09:40.06 | HR_ | rly |
| 09:40.06 | rulssi | yeah that seems to work |
| 09:41.30 | HR_ | someone should click to the bottom of the list to see if im even on it |
| 09:42.46 | Wartex | if I want a trigger to check for when a specific type of unit dies, is there any better way to do it than "event - Any unit dies" and "condition - Unit type of (triggering unit)=asdf"? |
| 09:43.11 | Wartex | feels like a trigger like that would make the game laggy as there is a lot of units dying |
| 09:43.34 | HR_ | thats the best way i know |
| 09:43.37 | HR_ | its should work fine |
| 09:43.40 | HR_ | go for it |
| 09:43.43 | Wartex | :S |
| 09:43.48 | Wartex | aight |
| 09:43.55 | Wartex | I'll blame you if my map gets laggy :P |
| 09:44.04 | HR_ | maybe store unittyppe of unit in local var |
| 09:44.11 | HR_ | compare that if u do it mulktiple times |
| 09:44.25 | HR_ | come play my map on US, SC Rally |
| 09:44.39 | Wartex | not US here :| |
| 09:44.50 | HR_ | awww... too bad... its battle karts |
| 09:47.46 | MavercK | has anyone worked out a way around the maximum health limit |
| 09:47.54 | MavercK | wether it be in the data editor the 100,000 limit |
| 09:48.01 | MavercK | or via triggers the limit being around 490,000 |
| 09:48.39 | MavercK | units become invincible and un-targetable when you go over 500,000 |
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| 09:53.46 | Wartex | add shields without regen maybe |
| 09:54.08 | Wartex | could even recolor the shield bar in the UI so it looks like 2 health bars |
| 10:00.38 | MavercK | shields have the same limit |
| 10:00.43 | MavercK | 524287 is the exact number |
| 10:00.53 | MavercK | anything over that and the unit bugs and can't be killed |
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| 10:09.18 | HR_ | i need to get my map size and load times down a little |
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| 10:09.24 | HR_ | maybe i have too many doodads? |
| 10:15.00 | ProzaicMuze | oie |
| 10:15.20 | ProzaicMuze | Some guy looked at my Actors Tutorial and essentially rage quit the editor after reading it lol |
| 10:15.41 | Phaos | LULZ |
| 10:15.47 | Phaos | stupid caps lock |
| 10:15.52 | ProzaicMuze | Which reminds me |
| 10:15.52 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/9028-prozaics-sc2-editor-tutorials-week-8/ |
| 10:15.57 | ProzaicMuze | Now to go read all my mail |
| 10:16.01 | ProzaicMuze | /wrist |
| 10:16.24 | Otixa | Hate mail :D |
| 10:17.44 | ProzaicMuze | Possibly lol |
| 10:18.43 | ProzaicMuze | wtf |
| 10:18.48 | ProzaicMuze | deleting mail moves it to the TOP of my mail list? |
| 10:18.50 | ProzaicMuze | Ghey |
| 10:19.53 | ProzaicMuze | Where vjeux when I wanna complain about the mail box again. .. |
| 10:20.05 | ProzaicMuze | This organization is atrocious! |
| 10:21.03 | HR_ | well i got some people to run like 4 games but they left and didnt give any comments |
| 10:21.08 | HR_ | at least they played more than once |
| 10:21.13 | HR_ | prolly cause its friggin 6am |
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| 10:21.27 | HR_ | i gotta get some people to try it for feedback |
| 10:22.28 | Walshie824 | yoyoyo |
| 10:22.52 | HR_ | someone join my map SC Rally on US HRPuffinStuf 762 |
| 10:24.14 | HR_ | where can i find more people to test my map... why dont they have chat rooms ffs |
| 10:24.36 | HR_ | and why are the starcraft forums down during launch haha |
| 10:24.54 | HR_ | battle cars ... join |
| 10:26.28 | ProzaicMuze | 5 mails down |
| 10:26.30 | ProzaicMuze | 50mails to go |
| 10:26.34 | HR_ | why is it when im in FPS camera, camera height doesnt seem to move up and down with the terrain |
| 10:26.59 | HR_ | really wish i could fix that |
| 10:28.22 | Phaos | go go you can do it Proz |
| 10:28.54 | Arthas- | Good morning world! |
| 10:29.49 | ProzaicMuze | The first half of my replies are "Sorry for the lat reply, I was busy" |
| 10:29.49 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
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| 10:30.00 | Xolsom | :O |
| 10:30.08 | mattavich-377 | Good morning |
| 10:30.09 | Arthas- | sounds like my work proz :p |
| 10:30.30 | Xolsom | Good evening |
| 10:30.35 | mattavich-377 | Another 4am night last night working my map -_- |
| 10:30.46 | Arthas- | havent done a 4-5am since editor came out :p |
| 10:31.10 | mattavich-377 | I want this 5,000 though |
| 10:31.18 | Arthas- | why bother |
| 10:31.19 | ProzaicMuze | You won't get it |
| 10:31.21 | Arthas- | rrow already won! |
| 10:31.22 | ProzaicMuze | since I submitted 10 maps |
| 10:31.24 | ProzaicMuze | secretly |
| 10:31.30 | ProzaicMuze | And will win all the prizes |
| 10:31.31 | Arthas- | stolen from sc2mapster ofc |
| 10:31.36 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 10:31.38 | rrowland | yeah well he might win one of the other 2 prizes |
| 10:31.45 | mattavich-377 | I've spent about 5 weeks on this map |
| 10:31.49 | ProzaicMuze | Why would I steal mapster's maps when I'm the one that fixed most of them? lol |
| 10:31.57 | Arthas- | "rrowland's map was so awesome so we gave him all the prizes!" |
| 10:32.01 | mattavich-377 | I don't know if i will win but i know everyone who tested said it was a really addictive map |
| 10:32.02 | rrowland | lol |
| 10:32.18 | Arthas- | Yeah rrow, I have high expectations on your map :p |
| 10:32.26 | ProzaicMuze | I don't |
| 10:32.26 | Arthas- | when is the maps due to be finished? |
| 10:32.29 | rrowland | I'm a fair player -- I started my map the day after I heard about the contest |
| 10:32.29 | mattavich-377 | but then, just like the UI contet by SC"mapster, sometimes utterly pointless submissions can still win |
| 10:32.30 | Arthas- | 9/11 ? |
| 10:32.30 | ProzaicMuze | Since I know what rrowland is like |
| 10:32.33 | mattavich-377 | liek ac130 |
| 10:32.44 | mattavich-377 | if ac130 won it would be a load of bollocks |
| 10:33.03 | Arthas- | ProzaicMuze harsh :p |
| 10:33.11 | rrowland | Well if yours won and you started it before you knew about the contest, I'd say that's BS too :P |
| 10:33.18 | rrowland | But mine's pretty dang good so I'm not worried |
| 10:33.28 | mattavich-377 | What type of map is it? |
| 10:33.41 | rrowland | super secret |
| 10:33.46 | Arthas- | Im actually amazed at the lack of puzzle maps |
| 10:34.07 | Arthas- | WE NEED MOAR |
| 10:34.47 | mattavich-377 | I think what you will fins about ym map is i took a game concept already in SC2, something that has been quite flat and basic and turned it into what it is supposed to be |
| 10:35.11 | mattavich-377 | It is called Obelisk Hellfire |
| 10:35.32 | Arthas- | A map where zerg is balanced for up to 8 players? =D |
| 10:35.50 | rrowland | lols Yeah balance zerg plz |
| 10:35.50 | mattavich-377 | No, it's not a TD or anything like that |
| 10:35.53 | rrowland | That would be amazing |
| 10:36.09 | Arthas- | still, when is the last date to submit? |
| 10:36.18 | mattavich-377 | it is an 8 multiplayer FFA with the basic concept that the more kills you get, the better the units that spawn at your obelisk |
| 10:36.41 | mattavich-377 | You need to use strategy,micromanagement and tactics to be the best |
| 10:36.50 | rrowland | sounds like footies |
| 10:36.52 | Arthas- | or just pick mmm & mech |
| 10:36.53 | Arthas- | :p |
| 10:36.57 | Arthas- | and yeah, footies indeed |
| 10:37.12 | mattavich-377 | Yes rrowland, ehard that comment before but they also said it is much better than footies when it wasn't even complete hehe |
| 10:37.17 | Arthas- | although an improved footies could probably make it far (dont know how far in contest though) |
| 10:37.39 | rrowland | well footies was developed over months-years on the wc3 engine |
| 10:37.50 | rrowland | So aside from wc3->sc2 upgrades I doubt it's better |
| 10:38.00 | mattavich-377 | Well that is the comment |
| 10:38.19 | mattavich-377 | I've been playing this type of map since age of empires 10 years ago |
| 10:38.31 | mattavich-377 | its been waiting for me since then to come out onto a game |
| 10:38.36 | rrowland | I'm sorry to hear that |
| 10:38.46 | mattavich-377 | the age of empires custom maps were much mbetter for "footies" type gameplay |
| 10:38.50 | Arthas- | seriously, blizz is spitting news out on their community sites |
| 10:39.13 | mattavich-377 | So I knew exactly what I needed to do and done it |
| 10:39.35 | Arthas- | btw rrow |
| 10:39.42 | Arthas- | did you ever get sprites to work as you wanted it to |
| 10:39.47 | rrowland | no |
| 10:39.51 | Arthas- | :( |
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| 10:40.39 | ProzaicMuze | I know what type of map his is |
| 10:40.42 | ProzaicMuze | If you give me monaiz |
| 10:40.45 | ProzaicMuze | I'll tells joo! |
| 10:41.24 | Arthas- | i dont mind waiting :p |
| 10:41.45 | rrowland | The core gameplay is pretty much done, a few revamps here and there maybe |
| 10:41.51 | rrowland | Then it's 2 solid weeks of polishing |
| 10:43.54 | mattavich-377 | Anyone here from EU would like to help me test? |
| 10:46.48 | mattavich-377 | Lol i think my map is missing an uberlisk |
| 10:46.53 | mattavich-377 | i have to have that in there |
| 10:48.45 | ProzaicMuze | Well you know where to go if you need to make one ;) |
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| 10:49.05 | rrowland | to hell |
| 10:49.40 | ProzaicMuze | Ouch |
| 10:49.47 | rrowland | lols |
| 10:49.50 | rrowland | jk |
| 10:49.51 | rrowland | gl hf |
| 10:50.10 | mattavich-377 | Sorry rrowland something up? |
| 10:50.38 | rrowland | No I was just messing around |
| 10:50.40 | rrowland | I'm tired |
| 10:52.01 | rrowland | good night |
| 10:52.26 | ProzaicMuze | He's just jealous because I'm more "cooler" than him |
| 10:52.30 | ProzaicMuze | In more ways than one |
| 10:52.34 | mattavich-377 | Porz would you like to see my map? |
| 10:52.40 | mattavich-377 | It really is a good entry you know |
| 10:52.42 | ProzaicMuze | What is this map? |
| 10:52.48 | ProzaicMuze | And wait, are you allowed to show it to me? |
| 10:52.51 | mattavich-377 | It is called ObeliskHellfire |
| 10:53.04 | ProzaicMuze | I thought there was some crap about keeping it secret lol |
| 10:53.08 | mattavich-377 | well, if mappers can't private test locked maps than the whole contest will flop |
| 10:53.21 | ProzaicMuze | Aha! Mailbox empty! |
| 10:53.23 | mattavich-377 | I have to be able to private test or it just won't work |
| 10:53.51 | mattavich-377 | I'm new to SC2 editor and never even played warcraft 3 bt I think what i've done is pretty good |
| 10:54.04 | mattavich-377 | It's much better than some of the crap out there like golemz and marine arena |
| 10:54.11 | ProzaicMuze | Well I can't take a look right now since I'm busy playing catch up |
| 10:54.16 | ProzaicMuze | Maybe later on though |
| 10:54.18 | mattavich-377 | No problem |
| 10:54.26 | mattavich-377 | You're probably from the US anwyay? |
| 10:54.31 | mattavich-377 | I'm EU |
| 10:54.59 | Maul | anyone know how to make bridges be crossed both under and over? |
| 10:55.17 | mattavich-377 | I've not tried maul, big threads are abround asking this question |
| 10:55.31 | Maul | yeah ive read them all |
| 10:55.34 | mattavich-377 | :/ |
| 10:55.36 | Maul | still no help :( |
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| 10:55.54 | mattavich-377 | I still can't believe you can place cliffs and ahve units shoot through thick rock |
| 10:56.07 | mattavich-377 | That'#s annoying since i have walls on my map |
| 10:56.35 | Maul | i imagine it would be |
| 10:58.51 | HR_ | my map is awesome |
| 10:59.07 | HR_ | and i just got a bunch more good ideas to make it better |
| 10:59.45 | HR_ | anyone want to play SC Rally - fps battle karts in US? |
| 11:00.12 | mattavich-377 | I'm EU or i would join :( |
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| 11:01.02 | glupeczek | Hi. |
| 11:01.04 | ProzaicMuze | ~seen Alpha_vst |
| 11:01.05 | purl | alpha_vst <~Alpha_vst@c-24-5-9-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 44d 9h 23m 28s ago, saying: 'im going to not release my map on bnet 0.o\'. |
| 11:01.06 | HR_ | any way to have an effect rotate my turret? probably eh? |
| 11:01.20 | glupeczek | Does anyone use Galaxy Editor on Mac OS X? |
| 11:02.11 | mattavich-377 | Mac is poo |
| 11:02.13 | mattavich-377 | why use mac |
| 11:05.05 | HR_ | does bnet default to faster game speed and editor default to normal? |
| 11:05.15 | HR_ | cause on bnet my map is def to faster |
| 11:09.23 | Tinman | I always add a trigger in my map to set game speed, that way when I test it its always the same |
| 11:10.09 | HR_ | will do |
| 11:11.22 | glupeczek | Can anyone help me with camera triggers. How do I set camera's position and place to look at? Is it: make look at and pan? |
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| 11:11.59 | Tinman | OneTwo made a very good video tutorial on that |
| 11:12.12 | Tinman | let me did it up |
| 11:12.16 | glupeczek | Yeah, I saw that. |
| 11:12.17 | Tinman | dig* |
| 11:12.31 | glupeczek | The problem is |
| 11:12.36 | Tinman | alright |
| 11:13.02 | glupeczek | I move the camera to the position behind the hero with: |
| 11:13.19 | glupeczek | Camera - Pan the camera for player (Picked player) to ((Position of Heroes[(Picked player)]) offset by -3.0 towards (Facing of Heroes[(Picked player)]) degrees) over ... |
| 11:13.28 | glupeczek | When used alone, this trigger works fine. |
| 11:14.29 | glupeczek | After that I try to look when the hero is facing with: |
| 11:14.42 | glupeczek | Camera - Make the camera look at ((Position of Heroes[(Picked player)]) offset by 3.0 towards (Facing of Heroes[(Picked player)]) degrees) for player (Picked player) ... |
| 11:15.14 | glupeczek | When used on its own, this trigger works fine as well. But when used together, after or before the previous one, the camera goes nuts. |
| 11:15.38 | glupeczek | It shoots into space or does other unexpected things. |
| 11:15.57 | glupeczek | Any ideas? Maybe I'm doing in completely wrong? |
| 11:16.00 | HR_ | maybe try using pan and then set rootation? |
| 11:16.15 | HR_ | since look at is kinda goofy |
| 11:17.14 | glupeczek | It's just a different kind of strange behaviour when I do that. |
| 11:18.55 | Helral | glupeczek: try hide game UI |
| 11:19.09 | Helral | it will prolly fix your camera issue. |
| 11:19.11 | glupeczek | It just slides away from the actor in jumps. |
| 11:19.32 | glupeczek | It is hidden. |
| 11:19.49 | HR_ | i wonder if i can make a pathing blocker work for only some players |
| 11:20.07 | Zaraf | anyone here making a TD? |
| 11:20.19 | HR_ | i started on one but didnt finish |
| 11:20.28 | HR_ | i figured a lot of stuff out tho |
| 11:20.30 | Zaraf | I had that problem back in WC3 :( |
| 11:20.34 | Zaraf | made an AWESOME TD |
| 11:20.57 | Zaraf | but then I gave up on it cause the stupid patch to WC3 broke so much of my map, that it was too much work to fix it all up again |
| 11:21.14 | HR_ | well i started a ltw to be easy, but then i thought of better more unique ideas |
| 11:21.29 | glupeczek | The funny thing is that both actions work fine separately, but when together they just go crazy. |
| 11:22.03 | HR_ | there is apply camera object, to change all at once, dont know if it would help tho |
| 11:22.14 | mattavich-377 | Anyone in EU would like to test my map? |
| 11:22.16 | HR_ | my map i just made is battle cars |
| 11:22.23 | HR_ | anyone in us want to test battle cars |
| 11:22.49 | Zaraf | I'll test in US |
| 11:23.07 | glupeczek | Maybe you have another ideas on how I can obtain this effect: I want a 3rd person camera without mouse control. My hereo moves by clicking. When player clicks, I want the camera to change its angle to the point you clicked and follow behind hereo's back. |
| 11:23.12 | HR_ | whats your name and code |
| 11:23.16 | Zaraf | Zaraf 527 |
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| 11:28.43 | HR_ | thx for testing zaraf |
| 11:28.58 | Zaraf | yeah, nice concept and it has potential, but it needs a lot of work in the controls |
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| 11:29.14 | Zaraf | the game isn't fun if you can't control it properly...regardless of how well done everything else is |
| 11:31.40 | HR_ | did you notice the sky at all? |
| 11:31.44 | Zaraf | no |
| 11:31.53 | HR_ | did you think it was black or didnt notice? |
| 11:32.34 | HR_ | cause i wasted 500k in the map size for a sky texture |
| 11:32.53 | HR_ | maybe i should not have it |
| 11:33.34 | HR_ | maybe just a smaller texture |
| 11:33.45 | HR_ | well thanks for your input guys |
| 11:34.01 | HR_ | play SC Rally on US!!!! its on the list |
| 11:36.04 | glupeczek | I'm going crazy with this. What does the follow unit camera trigger does? Does it just set the look at point to the position of unit? How does it choose where to look from? |
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| 11:37.49 | Paras1te | o hai |
| 11:39.06 | Arthas- | quick |
| 11:39.09 | Arthas- | which mpq editor to use? |
| 11:39.24 | Paras1te | best one D: |
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| 11:51.24 | mattavich-377 | Would anyone from EU like a quick preview of Obelisk Hellfire? |
| 11:51.34 | mattavich-377 | It is a competition map i've designed |
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| 11:59.36 | Ashamed | Good mornz |
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| 12:15.35 | mattavich-377 | Would anyone like to join a lobby for a private test of obelisk hellfire? |
| 12:15.36 | Wartex | can I change the tint of an attached actor? |
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| 12:19.44 | Zaraf | matta, US or EU? |
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| 12:19.58 | mattavich-377 | EU |
| 12:20.02 | mattavich-377 | mattavich 377 |
| 12:20.03 | Zaraf | ahh too bad |
| 12:20.05 | mattavich-377 | we waiting in lobby hehe |
| 12:20.07 | Zaraf | I'm on US |
| 12:20.07 | mattavich-377 | damn |
| 12:20.56 | FahqueL | @wartex yes, just add actorcreation.attachedactorname>>>set tint color to the attached actor events |
| 12:21.17 | FahqueL | if that doesnt work I would be amazed |
| 12:21.58 | Wartex | Ah, but I've gotta do it through triggers as I need the player color |
| 12:22.08 | Wartex | But I think I have the solution. Thanks anyway :) |
| 12:22.11 | FahqueL | oh i cant help ya there |
| 12:22.21 | FahqueL | i know NOTHING about triggers :) |
| 12:22.25 | Jum-Jum | mattavich-377: I'll come |
| 12:22.33 | FahqueL | so you can set a team color to units in triggers? |
| 12:22.45 | mattavich-377 | Cool, it is a fun map you won't be disappointed |
| 12:22.46 | mattavich-377 | anyone else? |
| 12:23.27 | Jum-Jum | Its a fun map? OOOH DAMN! I was hoping for a boring map. >:( |
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| 12:25.47 | FahqueL | heya easy |
| 12:26.12 | malkavian | yo |
| 12:27.28 | Zaraf | sup |
| 12:31.24 | Zaraf | FahqueL, if you don't know triggers, what are you good at? |
| 12:31.50 | FahqueL | im brand new to mapping in any game, ive spent 2 weeks learning data editor so far |
| 12:31.59 | FahqueL | im to the point i can do site operations |
| 12:32.14 | FahqueL | still havent tackled hero creation and abilities and requirements |
| 12:32.20 | FahqueL | but terrain/triggers i have no clue |
| 12:32.23 | Zaraf | nice, have you been working on a map or just doing random stuff? |
| 12:32.26 | FahqueL | my partner is in charge of that |
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| 12:33.42 | FahqueL | malkavian who is also here, and I are making a notd map |
| 12:33.49 | FahqueL | and not AM notd... |
| 12:33.57 | FahqueL | notdstarcraft.com is a bunch of AM players |
| 12:34.03 | FahqueL | we are notd2/notdSO players |
| 12:34.04 | Wartex | FahqueL, yeah that's what I'm trying to accomplish. The raynor unit can't have any player color, so I'm attaching a splat and giving that a color |
| 12:34.36 | Wartex | Catalog - Set value of Actors "P1Splat" "Color" for player 1 to (Convert color (Color((Current player 1 color))) to string) doesnt seem to work tho xD |
| 12:35.28 | Wartex | but it was a wild guess, so I'm not surprised |
| 12:35.31 | Zaraf | what are AM players? |
| 12:36.23 | FahqueL | oh |
| 12:36.29 | FahqueL | notd is Night of the Dead |
| 12:36.33 | FahqueL | there are many versions |
| 12:36.40 | FahqueL | AM is AfterMath |
| 12:36.47 | FahqueL | SO is Special Ops |
| 12:36.51 | FahqueL | 2 is 2 |
| 12:37.04 | FahqueL | 3 is 3 (aka the germans updated/changed version of 2) |
| 12:37.12 | FahqueL | all wc3 maps |
| 12:37.52 | Zaraf | ok |
| 12:38.20 | Zaraf | I'm making a Smash TV map |
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| 12:38.29 | Zaraf | craaaaazy fights |
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| 12:41.54 | Altharaz | hi there |
| 12:42.34 | Altharaz | does someone know what is the scale (approximatively) of a unit of sc2 (in meters?) ? |
| 12:44.20 | Wartex | Altharaz, I found this image: http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4075/comparacintamaos4gray.jpg |
| 12:44.29 | Wartex | don't know if its of any help :P |
| 12:45.09 | Altharaz | lol |
| 12:45.10 | Wartex | oh, you meant an sc2 scale unit? |
| 12:45.18 | Altharaz | not really |
| 12:45.27 | Altharaz | it's because i'm working on a physics engine |
| 12:45.40 | Altharaz | and you know, there are constants like g, in m.s^-2 |
| 12:45.59 | Altharaz | and it looks like our props are moving too slow |
| 12:46.12 | Altharaz | so we would like to adapt the units |
| 12:46.29 | Altharaz | because we should change the m.s^-2 in sc2_unit . s^-2 |
| 12:47.59 | Wartex | ah |
| 12:48.34 | Altharaz | and i dont know what should change in the 9,81 xD |
| 12:48.46 | Wartex | well you could perhaps export a unit and load it into a 3d-modelling software, then set the scale of the program to meters |
| 12:48.51 | Leaderboard | I4m really sorry mattavich-377, just saw your messages :( |
| 12:49.12 | Altharaz | you're right wartex, but i don't have this kind of software ^ |
| 12:49.17 | Altharaz | ^^ |
| 12:49.24 | Wartex | blender 3d is free :P |
| 12:49.51 | Wartex | but might not be viable to learn an app like that just for this :P |
| 12:51.10 | Altharaz | xD |
| 12:55.41 | FahqueL | what is map file size for bnet? |
| 12:55.46 | FahqueL | limit* |
| 12:56.46 | mattavich-377 | Would anyone else like to join a lobby of players in a private tets of obelisk hellfire? |
| 12:57.28 | crazyfingers | US server? |
| 12:57.36 | mattavich-377 | EU |
| 12:57.42 | crazyfingers | ahh |
| 12:58.31 | rulssi | think i could |
| 12:59.04 | mattavich-377 | ok add me as a friend |
| 12:59.07 | mattavich-377 | mattavich 377 |
| 12:59.56 | mattavich-377 | I've added you |
| 13:00.29 | mattavich-377 | 4 of us in lobby, anyone else? |
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| 13:06.00 | Pierrot | Hello all |
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| 13:27.18 | Phaos | ~seen Alpha_vst |
| 13:27.21 | purl | alpha_vst <~Alpha_vst@c-24-5-9-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 44d 11h 49m 44s ago, saying: 'im going to not release my map on bnet 0.o\'. |
| 13:27.55 | Phaos | well that explains the absence |
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| 13:31.35 | Pierrot | i m laughing while mapping |
| 13:31.42 | Pierrot | good or bad sign ? |
| 13:31.48 | Pierrot | good I think |
| 13:32.30 | Wartex | Okay, this was weird. I gave my marine an ability to morph into a marauder. Everything seems to work well except he doesnt change appearance. |
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| 13:33.03 | Wartex | Methinks I have to edit some event to kill the old actor and spawn a new one |
| 13:33.39 | Paras1te | By working you mean he has stats and voice of marauder? |
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| 13:34.11 | Tofu | so. My pc is shit. I have a pretty insensive map that I am working on. Every time I go into it to test stuff, im looking at a 4-5 minute load. |
| 13:34.19 | Tofu | so I thought, lets mke a tiny map |
| 13:34.26 | Tofu | import the units and test there |
| 13:34.37 | Tofu | import is confusing me :( |
| 13:34.50 | Pierrot | wartex in the units actor |
| 13:35.00 | Pierrot | abil.*.finish |
| 13:35.06 | Pierrot | period morph from marine |
| 13:35.12 | Pierrot | period morph to marauder |
| 13:35.15 | Pierrot | destroy |
| 13:35.24 | Pierrot | then do it again in teh marauder actor |
| 13:35.30 | Pierrot | but instead of destroy |
| 13:35.34 | Pierrot | you put create |
| 13:37.16 | Arthas- | tofu |
| 13:37.26 | Arthas- | tip is not to close the game when testing |
| 13:37.36 | Arthas- | just alt+tab, make more changes and hit test map |
| 13:37.41 | Arthas- | will decrease loading times |
| 13:37.45 | Tofu | then pc hangs |
| 13:37.48 | Wartex | thanks Pierrot, it works *hugs* |
| 13:37.50 | Arthas- | ouch :p |
| 13:37.55 | Tofu | I said it was shit! |
| 13:38.16 | Pierrot | wartex : your welcome |
| 13:38.21 | Tofu | so, anyone know how to essentially make your units into a "mod" for the game so I can import custom> |
| 13:38.22 | Tofu | ? |
| 13:38.35 | Tofu | I tried the save as, but nothing seemed to work |
| 13:38.50 | Pierrot | tofu : no but my chase the mineral map is going to be fun a lot |
| 13:38.53 | Pierrot | for sure |
| 13:39.06 | Tofu | hmm, mine is chase the probe |
| 13:39.08 | Tofu | ! |
| 13:39.10 | Tofu | thief |
| 13:40.13 | Pierrot | well |
| 13:40.13 | Tofu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.31 | Pierrot | *don't know how to make the gather ability to cancel if the minearal spot is out of range when the worker has already started the gathering spell |
| 13:40.33 | Paras1te | I realized that making most things in triggers is just impossible. I think it's time to learn some more data editor ;/ |
| 13:41.21 | Tofu | the probe has a beam weapon that cancels if you move out of range |
| 13:41.28 | Tofu | you could prolly bastardise it |
| 13:41.38 | Tofu | whatcha making parasite? |
| 13:42.07 | mattavich-377 | Would anyone else like to join a lobby for a private test of Obelisk Hellfire? |
| 13:42.12 | NOOBrUS | Do you guys know how to do a condition like... If a unit enter a region... |
| 13:42.12 | mattavich-377 | Add em to friends list mattavich 377 |
| 13:42.22 | Pierrot | what is the point of this map mattavich |
| 13:42.39 | mattavich-377 | Destroy all opponents |
| 13:42.43 | mattavich-377 | :) |
| 13:42.45 | Tofu | @NoobrUS theres a "unit enters region" trigger |
| 13:42.49 | mattavich-377 | Using tactics, micro management |
| 13:42.53 | mattavich-377 | strategy |
| 13:42.59 | mattavich-377 | more kill = better units |
| 13:43.24 | NOOBrUS | is that for a condittion? |
| 13:43.25 | mattavich-377 | Still testing but its pretty much a full map now |
| 13:43.35 | mattavich-377 | add me as friend if you want to play, going in-game now |
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| 13:44.06 | Tofu | no, its a trigger. but you could make it set a variable that you check for |
| 13:44.18 | Tofu | in a condition |
| 13:45.21 | NOOBrUS | hmm |
| 13:45.57 | sNap | How to enter a own String to a model in the data-editor (model)? I want to use ....RockLarge.m3 to use variations ... but I cant enter this String, because it doesnt exist. |
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| 13:47.13 | NOOBrUS | i guess ill do it that way tofu ^^ |
| 13:47.17 | Aussie123 | worms ftw! |
| 13:47.18 | Tofu | alternatively, theres a convert point to region. You could check if a unit(converted to point) was within a region |
| 13:47.36 | Pierrot | snap : what do you want to do exactly ? |
| 13:47.47 | Tofu | thats a condition |
| 13:48.37 | Pierrot | snap : ther is a variations+ field in the model tab of the data editor. just create a custom model with the rock model and put it to variation 3 |
| 13:48.54 | Altharaz | is there anyway to make the turret of a unit look into a direction? |
| 13:49.08 | Altharaz | with triggers |
| 13:49.20 | Tofu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.23 | Tofu | etc |
| 13:49.58 | NOOBrUS | ^^\ |
| 13:51.48 | sNap | @pierrot ah, thx. I looked at blizzards model and they dont use it, they use RockLarge.m3 and set a number of variations. It seems that a random number will be added to the filename to access them. I thought I have to do the same. |
| 13:53.00 | Pierrot | sNap : you r welcome. make sure you ll play my map |
| 13:55.40 | Tofu | Anyone know how to import units from one map to another? |
| 13:55.48 | Tofu | I appear to be blind |
| 13:56.30 | FahqueL | @snap: if you want to see how variations are handled by blizzard, look at "infestedcivilian" it has 3 variants |
| 13:56.52 | Pierrot | at all : I managed to make a Disperse like ability for my minerals |
| 13:57.01 | Pierrot | and it is working |
| 13:57.35 | Pierrot | 25 mana activation 3/sec reduce the harvesting rate by 75% |
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| 14:01.23 | Pierrot | update : I added an actor and sounds |
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| 14:13.28 | Nash|327 | my social live keeps getting in the way of mapping |
| 14:13.53 | Nash|327 | life :G |
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| 14:22.16 | Pierrot | hmm i have a bug i think. My effect are not shown in data editor |
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| 14:36.00 | Wartex | uh.. when I try to save I get this weird error message: Unable to move existing archive (The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.): C:\Users\Wartex\Documents\StarCraft II\TestMap.SC2Map |
| 14:36.29 | Wartex | How can I fix it so that I can save? |
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| 14:39.09 | GeEom | I get a bunch of weird throw offs from saving occasionaly, usualy just try and save again, else close anything that might be interfering with the relevent files or filespace |
| 14:39.48 | Wartex | yeah, I dunno. I just restared the editor now. Fortunately I save quite often so I won't have to redo too much |
| 14:42.44 | FahqueL | does anyone know about "animation speeds" in unit actor, for adjusting them for proper walk/attack animations? |
| 14:49.06 | GeEom | It should be automatic Fah, especialy for scaled movement speed, if you have created a new ability on a unit and are trying to bend animation times to synch, you can edit the event tied to the animation and your ability, and set the time factor from automatic to either duration or time scale |
| 14:49.39 | GeEom | duration means that the entire animation will be sped up or slowed down to fit the time over which the avbility is used, and that lets you synch the cast start times of the ability to the animation |
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| 14:50.10 | mattavich-377 | Would anyone like to join the next lobby for a private test of Obelisk hellfire? mattavich 377 |
| 14:50.57 | sNap | anyone know why it has no effect to change the color of the model in the data editor? I want to color the model like in wc3 |
| 14:51.30 | FahqueL | @snap: you have to color in the actor events |
| 14:51.49 | FahqueL | the model >>art>>color doesnt do anything |
| 14:51.57 | FahqueL | no one knows why |
| 14:52.19 | FahqueL | but if you go to the main unit actor and events+ |
| 14:52.20 | sNap | ok, i will try that, which event? |
| 14:52.55 | FahqueL | enter new event unitbirth.YOURUNITNAME>>>Set Tint |
| 14:53.18 | sNap | is this already visible in the editor or only in the game? |
| 14:53.24 | FahqueL | there are some more powerful features there like set tint color blend (lets you have your model go between 2 colors |
| 14:53.31 | FahqueL | it will show up in the terrain editor |
| 14:53.47 | FahqueL | if its not, you need to save and exit and restart once, sometimes it bugs out |
| 14:53.53 | FahqueL | or your event isnt correct |
| 14:54.12 | FahqueL | also if the unit is created by morphs you will need this event as well |
| 14:54.22 | FahqueL | actorcreation>>>set tint color |
| 14:55.02 | FahqueL | there are comments on mapster forums that unitbirth. and actorcreation. are same thing and are redundant, but this is not quite true, i learned from messing with burrowing units |
| 14:55.12 | FahqueL | burrows are morphs and not unitbirths |
| 14:55.28 | FahqueL | so for a unit that has morphs you will need both events |
| 14:55.35 | FahqueL | unitbirth and actorcreation |
| 14:55.52 | sNap | okay, i'll try that now. Really thx |
| 14:55.54 | FahqueL | also |
| 14:56.14 | azala | question: any way to set the name/prefix of player colors? i've got a dependency on a lurker-unit mod, and it totally screwed up the color names (they now say "Lurker Den:Blue" and such) when you pick them in the lobby |
| 14:56.17 | FahqueL | you will quickly hate the coloring if you just say make it 255, 0, 0 |
| 14:56.39 | GeEom | If I want an actor to move do I need to use a mover? do I link my effect actor to the mover or vice versa? |
| 14:57.14 | FahqueL | you will want a balance or the textures get all nasty on the colored unit |
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| 14:57.27 | FahqueL | something like (255, 128, 128) or 255, 100 100 |
| 14:57.45 | FahqueL | and HDR value 1 is good, but you can "brighten" the color by increasing HDR |
| 14:58.13 | FahqueL | @geom its usually automatic and I dont have problems with movespeed <> animations but... |
| 14:58.25 | FahqueL | i imported one of those wow models and i have a fast moving unit |
| 14:58.36 | FahqueL | he "glides" around and occasionally does the walk animation |
| 14:58.46 | FahqueL | same with his attack |
| 15:00.31 | GeEom | are the animations regular? If you set the move animations to 'duration' then they will stretch out between updates, but I wouldnt be sure of how to synch those move updates with the model so you get 1 for 1 terrain / leg (tentecle, genitalia whatever) movement |
| 15:00.55 | FahqueL | well 1:1 ratio isnt important to me |
| 15:01.09 | FahqueL | but if he is moving i would at least like him to be animated |
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| 15:01.28 | GeEom | infact if you leave the time as automatic and make sure that the animations arent being cleared or only played once, so that they deffinately loop and are only stopped for other animations |
| 15:01.39 | FahqueL | in events? |
| 15:01.53 | FahqueL | i dont think animations for moving are even triggered in events normally |
| 15:02.06 | FahqueL | attack animations are so i can play with that one |
| 15:02.35 | GeEom | hummm |
| 15:02.57 | GeEom | im kinda semi useless without going and hunting myself |
| 15:03.00 | NOOBrUS | ok guys... atm I have unit enter region 1 and moves instantly to region 2, but i also want the unit to enter region 2 so he can teleport back to region 1. How do i make it so they just don't keep teleporting over and over again. |
| 15:03.26 | GeEom | does this have to happen for every unit or one specific unit? |
| 15:03.42 | NOOBrUS | everyunit |
| 15:04.21 | sNap | ok thx @FahqueL it works, but i also need the event AbilMorh.*.Finished and paint it there also. How to change the model size? same way? |
| 15:04.29 | GeEom | create a global variable unit group, and have a your teleportation trigger (i asume your using triggers) add all units that pass from R1 to R2 added to that group |
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| 15:05.20 | GeEom | then create a new trigger, event when a unit leaves a region (conditions, unit from that unit group, either of your two regions) remove that unit from region |
| 15:05.23 | GeEom | now |
| 15:05.45 | NOOBrUS | k |
| 15:05.56 | GeEom | on your teleport trigger, do unit enters region, conditions unit is not in unit group |
| 15:06.26 | GeEom | effectively each unit has to leave the regions before they can trigger the trigger |
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| 15:07.04 | GeEom | Question: can anyone help me move a terrain deformation via movers? |
| 15:08.13 | Pierrot | Clord : Hey! My map is going well. I am starting the contextual morphing ability |
| 15:09.03 | Pierrot | I have my idea on how i can implement it |
| 15:09.38 | Clord | okay |
| 15:11.21 | FahqueL | @snap multiple ways to scale model |
| 15:11.37 | FahqueL | 1. bad idea, change scale on the units "model" |
| 15:12.03 | FahqueL | 2. best method, change Art-scale field on the units main actor |
| 15:12.25 | FahqueL | if you changed the model scale and the actor scale they stack... |
| 15:12.57 | FahqueL | and if you use one model for multiple units, scaling the model is applied to all, this is why u do it on the actor instead |
| 15:13.33 | sNap | SetScale? |
| 15:14.02 | FahqueL | if you have certain abilities or events that you want to have change the scale (aka avatar, bloodlust, etc) then you would do it in actor events with "set scale" |
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| 15:14.17 | Fromethius | good morning internet |
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| 15:14.33 | FahqueL | if u want it always scaled, use the main unit ACTOR and the Art - Scale field |
| 15:16.06 | sNap | okay, thx. and is there a way to scale it to the size of the footprint? e.g. 2x2 |
| 15:16.29 | FahqueL | that one i dont know |
| 15:16.32 | FahqueL | never tried |
| 15:16.48 | sNap | ok |
| 15:16.51 | FahqueL | btw for coloring purposes there are 2 cool features in events u can play with |
| 15:17.09 | FahqueL | one is "glow start", "glow stop" this will make your unit phase dull/bright every few seconds |
| 15:17.38 | FahqueL | other is "halo start, halo stop" this will make ur unit have that glowing outline like the one protoss hero that glows or an archon |
| 15:19.11 | sNap | okay, thanks for the help |
| 15:20.18 | sNap | oh, scaling the actor was a bad idea, the model isnt centralized |
| 15:34.23 | mattavich-377 | Anyone looking to test some maps? |
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| 15:43.18 | vxcriss | ey all, can anyone help me test my new map on the EU server pls? |
| 15:43.58 | vxcriss | or at least play it on their server and let me know how the blance works out and all |
| 15:52.53 | mattavich-377 | Starting another private test of Obelisk Hellfire - If you would like to join add me as a friend now mattavich 377 |
| 15:56.31 | NOOBrUS | ok guys... atm I have unit enter region 1 and moves instantly to region 2, but i also want the unit to enter region 2 so he can teleport back to region 1. How do i make it so they just don't keep teleporting over and over again. |
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| 16:09.26 | FahqueL | add a time requirement? |
| 16:10.17 | Bemoliph | Set up a flagging system so when he teleports from Region 1 to Region 2, REgion 2 can't teleport him back with that value set |
| 16:10.31 | Bemoliph | But when he leaves Region 2, unset that value so it will let him teleport back |
| 16:10.37 | Bemoliph | And have it do the same in reverse |
| 16:11.25 | goomba_ | any data editor pros here |
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| 16:12.28 | NOOBrUS | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:17.10 | Bemoliph | Well, you could also always go the simplest route |
| 16:17.17 | Bemoliph | Which is teleport them not to Region 2, but near it |
| 16:17.35 | NOOBrUS | lol thats what im doing atm |
| 16:17.38 | Bemoliph | So then they don't end up teleporting right away because they're not in range |
| 16:23.47 | NOOBrUS | hmm |
| 16:25.48 | goomba_ | ok so if i have this ability |
| 16:25.48 | goomba_ | http://www.xfire.com/video/347835/ |
| 16:26.03 | goomba_ | how do i add a random effect to it, to do what the tooltip implies |
| 16:26.07 | Tofu | is this the same "teleporting between 2 points" thing? |
| 16:26.12 | goomba_ | so it would do 10-40 damage |
| 16:27.58 | vxcriss | thumb up this thing pls |
| 16:27.59 | vxcriss | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/169528451?page=1 |
| 16:28.04 | vxcriss | I raged for 30 minutes on it |
| 16:28.09 | vxcriss | but it's not my topic |
| 16:28.34 | Tofu | goomba |
| 16:28.46 | Tofu | I kinda assumed that was what the effect - random thing was |
| 16:28.51 | Tofu | but I havent used it |
| 16:28.58 | goomba_ | idk im not good with data editor |
| 16:29.09 | vxcriss | as someone said somewhere on that topic, I think blizzard is trying to screw us all by killing the map making community in order to sell their own map packs |
| 16:30.38 | Tofu | its under the weapon effect |
| 16:31.24 | Tofu | NOOBrUS |
| 16:31.32 | vxcriss | so, anyone on the EU server that can help me test my map? |
| 16:31.40 | Tofu | you thought about using an applied behaviour to timeout the teleport? |
| 16:31.57 | Tofu | like a buff, duration 20secs or something |
| 16:32.05 | Tofu | that you apply to teleporting units |
| 16:32.13 | Tofu | then check for before teleporting |
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| 16:36.33 | Tofu | or just a buff you remove when they leave the area |
| 16:41.51 | NOOBrUS | Well i just made a little demo of what im trying to do on my map... http://www.mediafire.com/?o5cjqi8eud4hb94 |
| 16:42.07 | NOOBrUS | but ya ill try the buff thing |
| 16:42.11 | Clord | =) |
| 16:42.48 | NOOBrUS | o,, you gotta kill the boss to teleport ... lol the probe |
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| 16:58.22 | Phaos | gawd I hate 'the moebius factor' mission. especially hard |
| 16:58.33 | Phaos | well gettign the hard achievment |
| 16:58.43 | Phaos | I do not enjoy time pressure missions :P |
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| 16:59.14 | nicoli_s | ditto |
| 16:59.45 | Bifuu | hai |
| 17:00.57 | Bifuu | no one loves me =( |
| 17:01.51 | nicoli_s | i do! |
| 17:01.58 | nicoli_s | ...kinda :P |
| 17:02.01 | Bifuu | lol |
| 17:02.41 | Bifuu | Damn work made me lose alot of time making my map for blizz's contest so i think imma just drop the contest rush and develop the map fully on my free time |
| 17:06.25 | Tofu | how does the map evaluate fog of war? where can I make units "wider/taller" to restrict it? |
| 17:07.55 | Lilianna | oh Hai Bifuu |
| 17:08.25 | Bifuu | o hai |
| 17:10.52 | Wartex | Okay, so I made a copy of the stimpack ability, made it target, gave it to the medic and made it autocast. Only one problem though... she stims them to death instantly. How can I make her not stim units that already have the buff applied? |
| 17:11.10 | Lilianna | lol |
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| 17:11.13 | Lilianna | awesome |
| 17:11.14 | Wartex | She also stimmed herself to death before i removed target self :P |
| 17:11.24 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 17:11.28 | Lilianna | Make a Validator on target |
| 17:11.32 | Lilianna | to not have the Stimpack Buff |
| 17:11.41 | Bifuu | haha Sixen is back at school haha |
| 17:11.58 | Wartex | Unit Compare Behaviour Type? |
| 17:12.13 | Lilianna | make a Validator first |
| 17:12.15 | casperb | behaviour count |
| 17:12.20 | Lilianna | Behavior count yes |
| 17:13.59 | Sixen | -.- |
| 17:14.41 | Lilianna | You need to choose whatever behavior is so lets say you used Marine - Stimpack |
| 17:14.48 | Lilianna | Is Exactly 0 |
| 17:14.58 | Lilianna | then add it to the Auto Cast Validator+ list |
| 17:15.05 | Lilianna | on your ability |
| 17:15.55 | Wartex | okay |
| 17:15.58 | Lilianna | Might might want to make another validator too |
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| 17:16.07 | Wartex | compare: not equal to? |
| 17:16.21 | Wartex | so target not equal to marine -stimpack |
| 17:16.37 | Lilianna | no |
| 17:16.48 | Lilianna | Validator of type Unit Compare Behavior Type |
| 17:17.02 | Wartex | I'm with you so far :P |
| 17:17.03 | Lilianna | Validator - Behavrio Marine - Stimpack |
| 17:17.09 | Wartex | yeah |
| 17:17.11 | Lilianna | Equal To |
| 17:17.13 | Lilianna | 0 |
| 17:17.26 | Wartex | ooooh value down there |
| 17:17.30 | Lilianna | Yah |
| 17:17.30 | Wartex | I get it now |
| 17:17.37 | Lilianna | Another Validator you should make |
| 17:17.51 | Lilianna | Unit Compare Vital |
| 17:18.01 | Lilianna | Vital Life |
| 17:18.04 | Lilianna | > 10 |
| 17:18.07 | Wartex | That's okay though. I was gonna remove the hp loss |
| 17:18.18 | Lilianna | ah okay |
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| 17:18.32 | Lilianna | then just the first one should be fine |
| 17:18.35 | Trager|546|US | Know what would be nice? If there was an event for when a variable changes value |
| 17:18.41 | Lilianna | and you wont be spamming Stimpack on one unit |
| 17:18.58 | Lilianna | So yes, after that Validator is made add it to the Ability - Auto Cast Validators |
| 17:18.59 | Lilianna | list |
| 17:19.14 | Bifuu | nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 17:19.24 | Bifuu | new site layout made my avatar shrink |
| 17:19.27 | Bifuu | now i look fat |
| 17:19.29 | Lilianna | haha |
| 17:19.46 | HeyRevolver | holy shit its Bifuu |
| 17:19.49 | Wartex | thanks, Lilianna it works perfectly |
| 17:19.51 | Bifuu | ill leave it still, so if people ever meet me in real life they wont belive its me |
| 17:19.51 | HeyRevolver | hey dude thank you for your tuts |
| 17:19.55 | Lilianna | Your welcome :) |
| 17:19.55 | HeyRevolver | in my world you are a celeb |
| 17:20.09 | Bifuu | haha thanks and no problem |
| 17:20.09 | Lilianna | My avatar is of awesome |
| 17:20.20 | Bifuu | Wish i had time to make more |
| 17:20.37 | HeyRevolver | Your hero creation tut is still the best out there |
| 17:20.47 | HeyRevolver | which is worht like 90583750934857 normal tuts |
| 17:21.38 | Bifuu | lol |
| 17:21.45 | vxcriss | here's something really retarded |
| 17:21.49 | Bifuu | i dont think that much |
| 17:21.53 | HeyRevolver | =P |
| 17:21.54 | vxcriss | I published a map last night, then removed it |
| 17:21.59 | HeyRevolver | chyea? |
| 17:22.03 | RoarMan | FAFOlAWofl |
| 17:22.06 | RoarMan | BALLERCANDYVLARORRRR |
| 17:22.11 | vxcriss | and if you use "show more" in the join match list, it will show up somewhere near the bottom |
| 17:22.12 | HeyRevolver | WRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 17:22.17 | RoarMan | HeyRevolver! |
| 17:22.20 | HeyRevolver | ice |
| 17:22.22 | vxcriss | meanwhile, I changed its name, and re-published it |
| 17:22.22 | RoarMan | Are you heysparky's bro or something? |
| 17:22.26 | HeyRevolver | No |
| 17:22.28 | RoarMan | XD |
| 17:22.31 | vxcriss | and the new version doesn't show up anywhere |
| 17:22.38 | RoarMan | vxcriss God hates bnet 2.0 |
| 17:22.38 | HeyRevolver | thanks for asking though? |
| 17:22.42 | RoarMan | :D |
| 17:22.42 | RoarMan | <3 |
| 17:22.43 | RoarMan | xoxo |
| 17:23.03 | Lilianna | heyspark has disappeared it seems :o |
| 17:23.06 | Lilianna | heysparky* |
| 17:23.11 | vxcriss | more like god hates idiots that spend weeks working on maps for bnet 2.shit |
| 17:23.34 | RoarMan | Lilianna you lie! |
| 17:23.38 | HeyRevolver | he joined the force... the bugs on Klendathu are getting too close |
| 17:23.45 | RoarMan | I LOVE YO HEYSPARKY |
| 17:23.46 | RoarMan | RRRr |
| 17:23.53 | Lilianna | Have you seen her lately? |
| 17:24.04 | RoarMan | heysparky's not a girl! |
| 17:24.05 | RoarMan | What! |
| 17:24.09 | Lilianna | o.O |
| 17:24.11 | RoarMan | He's heysparky! |
| 17:24.23 | Lilianna | I guess I was misinformed then |
| 17:24.30 | Lilianna | :p |
| 17:24.46 | RoarMan | Wtf heysparky is a woman? |
| 17:24.47 | RoarMan | That's hot. |
| 17:26.32 | vxcriss | too bad those big community sites don't just start a boicot on bnet 2 |
| 17:26.40 | vxcriss | like "no playing sc2 on mondays" |
| 17:26.45 | vxcriss | or something like that |
| 17:27.04 | vxcriss | once they notice drops in users they will get the message |
| 17:28.24 | rrowland | she got a job |
| 17:28.28 | rrowland | unrelated to sc2 |
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| 17:31.00 | Lilianna | ah, I see |
| 17:31.15 | rrowland | teaching job I believe |
| 17:31.20 | Lilianna | cool |
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| 17:46.03 | Tordecybombo | so is it possible to turn off shared resources? |
| 17:46.10 | Tordecybombo | ive been figuring this out all day |
| 17:46.24 | Tordecybombo | shared resrouces when your ally leaves |
| 17:49.47 | Tordecybombo | doing a periodic event isnt gonna work |
| 17:49.51 | Tordecybombo | even if it's .1 second |
| 17:54.39 | goomba_ | zzz how to use random numbers in data editor fields |
| 17:57.58 | vxcriss | don't bother making maps guys, it's pointless, nobody would ever get to play them cause of the shitass bnet |
| 17:58.12 | Demonette | Someone here who got to much time and has fun at model stuff? |
| 17:58.39 | Demonette | who cares about bnet ^^ |
| 17:58.47 | goomba_ | my map probably wont go on bnet lol |
| 17:58.55 | NOOBrUS | yay teleport system done XD |
| 17:59.10 | Demonette | we can also use the internet except for the b-net |
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| 17:59.51 | Demonette | So no one who want to model a biological badass boss unit? |
| 18:00.10 | Demonette | lol... its a bbb unit XD |
| 18:00.24 | Demonette | maybe i can also add big |
| 18:00.27 | Tordecybombo | BILBO BAGGINS |
| 18:00.36 | Demonette | Mmmmhh nope |
| 18:01.01 | Demonette | its a simple butcher =P |
| 18:01.06 | Demonette | well starts also with b |
| 18:01.07 | Demonette | lol |
| 18:01.20 | Demonette | he is the big "B" |
| 18:01.28 | Demonette | the B i guess... |
| 18:01.38 | Demonette | noone... =( |
| 18:01.44 | Demonette | *sign* |
| 18:02.55 | Fromethius | anyone online US want to come play island defense? it's fun! |
| 18:03.17 | Demonette | I'm not us... |
| 18:03.29 | Fromethius | =( |
| 18:03.40 | Demonette | 08 |
| 18:03.43 | Demonette | =( |
| 18:04.22 | goomba_ | fromethius do you data editor well |
| 18:04.37 | Fromethius | yeah i'm great at it |
| 18:04.46 | goomba_ | how do i use random integers in data fields |
| 18:04.46 | goomba_ | ie |
| 18:04.49 | goomba_ | abilty damage |
| 18:05.02 | Fromethius | there's a random amount of damage you can add |
| 18:05.05 | Fromethius | in the damage effect field |
| 18:05.06 | Fromethius | iirc |
| 18:05.12 | goomba_ | FieldCivilian - Throw Molotov (Damage) |
| 18:05.13 | goomba_ | Combat - Amount70 |
| 18:05.34 | goomba_ | so what do i do with that |
| 18:05.38 | goomba_ | if i wanted say 50-70 |
| 18:05.53 | Fromethius | hmm hold on.. i remember seeing it somewhere |
| 18:07.30 | Fromethius | oh |
| 18:07.33 | Fromethius | isn't it Effect - Random? |
| 18:07.59 | goomba_ | eh, idk |
| 18:08.02 | goomba_ | is that an actor thign |
| 18:08.54 | Fromethius | i don't think so |
| 18:09.05 | Lilianna | It wouldnt be an actor thing if its in an Effect |
| 18:09.14 | goomba_ | i looked around for a 'random' field but idk where it would be |
| 18:09.17 | goomba_ | im not good with DE |
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| 18:10.55 | Lilianna | goomba_, in the Damage Effet like Fromethius said |
| 18:11.04 | Lilianna | Theres a Field called Effect Random |
| 18:11.13 | Lilianna | Make Combat - Amount to 50 |
| 18:11.28 | Lilianna | Effect - Random to 20 |
| 18:11.41 | Lilianna | will give you random between 50 - 70 |
| 18:12.21 | Lilianna | and with that, I run away |
| 18:12.27 | goomba_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.52 | goomba_ | effect - death,flags, kill halucination, kind, leech fraction, vital bonus, vital fraction current, vital fraction maximum |
| 18:12.55 | goomba_ | no random |
| 18:13.16 | goomba_ | thats under the damage effect |
| 18:13.27 | Pierrot | Yeah !! my contextual morphing ability is now functionnal |
| 18:13.30 | Lilianna | Throw Moltov is the Damage Effect? |
| 18:13.42 | Lilianna | because if its an Effect of Type Damage |
| 18:13.44 | Lilianna | it has Random |
| 18:13.58 | goomba_ | Civilian - Throw Molotov (Damage) |
| 18:14.08 | Lilianna | Do you have Advanced fields turned on? |
| 18:14.27 | goomba_ | hmm |
| 18:14.30 | goomba_ | -_- |
| 18:15.49 | Lilianna | see it now? |
| 18:16.21 | goomba_ | yeah lol |
| 18:16.36 | goomba_ | how about if i wanted the aoe to be a random range of 1-3 etc? doable? |
| 18:16.53 | Lilianna | that I dont know, and cant check right now, sorry! Have to run |
| 18:17.02 | goomba_ | alrighty |
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| 18:20.23 | RedWraith | hey guys |
| 18:23.18 | goomba_ | herro |
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| 18:28.01 | jorgenpt | Huh |
| 18:28.13 | jorgenpt | SC2 needs like a memory profiler and a load time profiler for triggers :) |
| 18:28.19 | jorgenpt | s/triggers/maps/ |
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| 18:32.49 | Waterbottles | anyone there |
| 18:34.41 | jorgenpt | We're all here. |
| 18:34.46 | jorgenpt | Always watching. |
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| 18:35.40 | Waterbottles | hi |
| 18:36.01 | Waterbottles | my router's power adapter just got burnt |
| 18:36.02 | Waterbottles | is that normal |
| 18:36.46 | Waterbottles | im hope it's just the adapter |
| 18:36.51 | Waterbottles | because routers are expensive : |
| 18:37.29 | Xackery | routers are pieces of hardware and are suseptical to death just like any other device |
| 18:37.56 | nicoli_s | routers arent expensive |
| 18:38.04 | nicoli_s | you can get a new router from walmart for like 15 bucks |
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| 18:40.33 | Pierrot | i m laughing while making my map |
| 18:40.51 | Waterbottles | the problem i have to use a very specific router |
| 18:40.54 | rulssi-509 | hey, is it possible to make texture "unbuildable" like some rocks etc in warcraft 3? |
| 18:41.11 | Waterbottles | because for my isp, I have to use a specific model that's both a router and a modem |
| 18:41.19 | Waterbottles | *verizon fios* |
| 18:41.30 | Waterbottles | fios is awesome btw |
| 18:41.32 | Waterbottles | :) |
| 18:42.22 | rooj | $15 router? |
| 18:42.25 | rooj | link |
| 18:43.02 | Waterbottles | what's likely to die first, the adapter or the router? |
| 18:43.12 | rooj | adapter prolly lol |
| 18:43.21 | Waterbottles | or if the adapter dies, can it somehow "shortcircuit" the router? |
| 18:43.28 | rooj | probably |
| 18:43.39 | Waterbottles | wish i had a spare adapter to test |
| 18:45.23 | jorgenpt | Does GalaxyScript support bitwise operations? |
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| 18:46.45 | rrowland | yes |
| 18:47.20 | jorgenpt | In the Trigger Editor too? |
| 18:47.30 | PapaRoach | rowwlands not the lead singer of nickleback |
| 18:47.45 | PapaRoach | thats all i have to say |
| 18:47.50 | Fromethius | anyone know how to get it so you can rectangle select interceptors? i've tried everything |
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| 18:51.49 | Demo_ | um... Script failed to compile: Code jump out of bounds (try reducing the size of very large functions or triggers) (See Trigger Editor for more details) |
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| 18:51.54 | Demo_ | Script failed to compile: Code jump out of bounds (try reducing the size of very large functions or triggers) (See Trigger Editor for more details) |
| 18:52.03 | Demo_ | Is that from having too much or one too big? |
| 18:52.04 | jorgenpt | Nice < |
| 18:52.05 | jorgenpt | <3 |
| 18:52.13 | jorgenpt | Probably one too big, Demo_ |
| 18:52.23 | Demo_ | It's not telling me which one :( |
| 18:52.34 | jorgenpt | Well, I dunno. But jumps would probably be generated from If-s at least. |
| 18:52.36 | Demo_ | and the only one that I changed is smaller now :9 |
| 18:52.39 | jorgenpt | It could be for a call too |
| 18:52.53 | jorgenpt | Maybe put the biggest functions at the end? |
| 18:52.54 | RedWraith | Demo, you might want to considering writing your code on more than one line. ;) |
| 18:53.10 | Demo_ | I promise I didn't do that :) |
| 18:53.54 | Demo_ | :( |
| 18:54.04 | Demo_ | I can't save the map because of this error lol |
| 18:54.30 | Demo_ | Yeah and this trigger is smaller than some others :( |
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| 18:56.05 | etravex | got a tricky scenerio if someone wants to help me figure it out: Basically, I want a unit (which is an egg) if touched or walked over by another unit the egg hatches and creates a hostile unit. Anyone have any ideas? |
| 18:56.11 | Demo_ | Is there any way to find the one causing the problem? |
| 18:57.02 | Cryosis | etravex maybe give it a melee attack? |
| 18:57.09 | Cryosis | when it attacks do X |
| 18:57.12 | Cryosis | ? |
| 18:57.16 | etravex | ohhh |
| 18:57.17 | etravex | smart |
| 18:57.19 | Pierrot | etravex yup do a behavior type buff with a 0.5 period |
| 18:57.36 | Cryosis | or do what Pierrot says |
| 18:57.38 | Pierrot | then each period activate a serach effect with a smal aoe |
| 18:57.51 | etravex | ohhhhh |
| 18:57.52 | etravex | great |
| 18:57.56 | etravex | thanks guys |
| 18:58.01 | Pierrot | then if the search effect found an enemy it activate a spawn unit effect |
| 18:58.16 | etravex | perfect! |
| 18:58.17 | etravex | thank you |
| 18:58.22 | Pierrot | you r welcome, just make sure to play my map |
| 18:58.53 | RedWraith | I think I have a really good idea from a map and it's kinda like sentry scramble or partycraft |
| 18:59.00 | RedWraith | Challenges: Multiplayer Edition |
| 18:59.10 | etravex | which map is that? |
| 18:59.34 | RedWraith | where players do missions like the challenges, but either against eachother or as a team |
| 18:59.34 | Pierrot | not yet published |
| 18:59.41 | Pierrot | it will be Chase the minerals |
| 18:59.53 | etravex | alright, in the meantime go play my map |
| 18:59.55 | Demo_ | No help :/ is there any way to find the trigger/function that is overflowing? |
| 19:00.00 | etravex | it's on b.net right now |
| 19:00.30 | RedWraith | Whatever happened to special forces anyway? |
| 19:00.35 | RedWraith | that map was the shit |
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| 19:01.18 | waterbottles | cheesegrater |
| 19:01.28 | RedWraith | side-note: does anyone know if the xml documentation is order-dependent? |
| 19:01.28 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 19:01.32 | mattavich-377 | ello fellas- If you would like to join the next private tets of Obelisk hellfire add me as a friend mattavich 377 it is starting in the next 5 mintues, thanks |
| 19:01.38 | Xackery | HELLO EVERYONE. |
| 19:01.39 | Cryosis | Is it possible to have a weapon that only fires once per target? |
| 19:01.56 | Xackery | create a validator that checks for a behavior cryosis |
| 19:02.04 | Xackery | and have the behavior be applied whenever a weapon attacks |
| 19:02.17 | Pierrot | target sort may be |
| 19:02.21 | RedWraith | Cryosis, yes. |
| 19:02.30 | RedWraith | Have it give the target a behavior that is used in a validator |
| 19:02.39 | RedWraith | and if they have the validator, make it an impossible target |
| 19:03.00 | Cryosis | will it only do it for that weapon though? |
| 19:03.10 | RedWraith | hmm |
| 19:03.11 | Pierrot | yes |
| 19:03.12 | Cryosis | let me give an example to make sure I'm explaining this corectly |
| 19:03.23 | Cryosis | got 5 anti missile launchers |
| 19:03.26 | Cryosis | 2 inbound missiles |
| 19:03.29 | RedWraith | ah, I see. |
| 19:03.36 | Cryosis | the 5 anti missiles get to make one shot at each missile |
| 19:03.39 | Cryosis | no more than one |
| 19:03.51 | waterbottles | whatever happened to that missile comand map anyway |
| 19:03.53 | waterbottles | remkinds me of it |
| 19:04.02 | Xackery | are the 5 anti missile launchers 5 different weapons? |
| 19:04.16 | Cryosis | 5 seperate structures |
| 19:04.17 | Cryosis | yes |
| 19:04.20 | Xackery | Ok |
| 19:04.33 | Xackery | And you want them to only pick one missile each, and each missile to be unique? |
| 19:04.46 | Cryosis | each can fire at every incoming missile once |
| 19:04.57 | Pierrot | use behavior |
| 19:04.58 | Cryosis | so in this instance there would be 10 shots fired |
| 19:05.23 | Xackery | How long until they can fire at the incoming missile again? |
| 19:05.25 | Pierrot | and a behavior count of 5 |
| 19:05.33 | Pierrot | and max behavior per caster 1 |
| 19:05.57 | Cryosis | but the amount of defence missile launchers and attacking missiles will vary |
| 19:06.07 | Xackery | pierrot has an ideal way with the behavior per caster flag |
| 19:06.28 | Xackery | But you'd have to validate the behavior's source, i would think |
| 19:06.59 | jorgenpt | Man |
| 19:07.05 | jorgenpt | Custom script sure is unusable in libraries |
| 19:07.21 | jorgenpt | Since library ids are broken, global variables change name when imported elsewhere? :( |
| 19:07.44 | Xackery | Cryosis |
| 19:07.49 | Xackery | One last Q |
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| 19:07.56 | Cryosis | yes |
| 19:07.59 | Xackery | So let's say 2 incoming missiles, and 5 anti-missile launchers |
| 19:08.13 | Xackery | the incoming missiles are pretty beefy in my example, and take more than 1 shot to kill |
| 19:08.53 | Cryosis | the amount required to destroy the incoming missile is random. |
| 19:09.04 | Cryosis | each intercepting missile has a chance to destroy the incoming missile |
| 19:09.13 | Xackery | so the 5 anti-missile launchers fire a shot, each picking an incoming missile.. If missile launcher # 1 attacks missile A, and it gets ready to fire a second shot, will it be able to fire at missile A again? |
| 19:09.20 | Xackery | Or do you want it to NEVER be able to fire at missile A again? |
| 19:09.20 | Cryosis | no |
| 19:09.23 | Cryosis | never |
| 19:09.34 | Xackery | Ok |
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| 19:10.02 | Cryosis | yah it's fairly complicated :P |
| 19:10.24 | jorgenpt | Trigger Error in 'libShVe_gt_ButtonClicked_Func': An error occurred starting StarCraft II. Please try again. |
| 19:10.29 | jorgenpt | That's a ... great error. |
| 19:10.30 | Xackery | gimme a sec. |
| 19:10.43 | jorgenpt | (This happens when I click a dialog button) |
| 19:10.49 | Demo_ | It's almost as great as mine! |
| 19:11.28 | Demo_ | If the power goes out or if my computer shuts off I am screwed... |
| 19:11.37 | AsaPhelps | xack is pm's apprentice |
| 19:11.48 | Xackery | Who is PM? |
| 19:12.08 | waterbottles | sounds about right |
| 19:12.16 | AsaPhelps | prosiac's mother |
| 19:12.36 | waterbottles | this is tough |
| 19:12.44 | Xackery | He doesn't teach me enough to be an apprentice, I just ask him questions and he shrugs them with generic answers. XD |
| 19:12.52 | waterbottles | that thick protoss shield |
| 19:13.35 | Demo_ | I FOUND EEEEET |
| 19:13.37 | Xackery | I'm working on a system for ya Cryosis. |
| 19:14.13 | Demo_ | RedWraith you were right |
| 19:14.29 | Cryosis | yay |
| 19:14.33 | RedWraith | lol |
| 19:14.35 | RedWraith | I'm awesome |
| 19:14.38 | RedWraith | bbs |
| 19:14.42 | Clord | ^^ |
| 19:14.48 | Demo_ | :( |
| 19:14.59 | Demo_ | I didn't get to tell him he was right for the wrong reasons :( |
| 19:15.08 | Clord | protoss shield not really rely to thickness |
| 19:15.09 | Clord | :) |
| 19:15.18 | Demo_ | Apparently, this trigger http://pastebin.com/0wKYtSLF is too big. |
| 19:15.29 | waterbottles | but dustin browder said so |
| 19:16.10 | waterbottles | what's that damaging aura called in the battlecruiser mission? |
| 19:16.23 | waterbottles | the one that hurts units that have 0 shield |
| 19:16.48 | waterbottles | i forgot what its called |
| 19:16.49 | AsaPhelps | psi disruptor or something |
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| 19:16.54 | AsaPhelps | no thats not right |
| 19:16.57 | AsaPhelps | or is it |
| 19:16.57 | waterbottles | want to it add it to one of myunits |
| 19:17.14 | waterbottles | psi disruptor? |
| 19:17.19 | AsaPhelps | i hated that mission |
| 19:17.27 | waterbottles | psi disruptor doesnt sound right |
| 19:17.30 | AsaPhelps | because anything other than bcs were useless |
| 19:17.39 | waterbottles | because it's suppose to disrupt non-psi units >_> |
| 19:17.54 | waterbottles | well non-protoss shield |
| 19:17.57 | waterbottles | close enough |
| 19:18.14 | AsaPhelps | its probably a generic damage that requires no shield |
| 19:19.08 | waterbottles | is it damage? |
| 19:19.12 | waterbottles | or is it a behavior |
| 19:19.35 | AsaPhelps | i don't know |
| 19:19.38 | waterbottles | :) |
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| 19:20.20 | jorgenpt | waterbottles: Open the map ;-) |
| 19:20.28 | jorgenpt | waterbottles: Tychus05.SC2Map |
| 19:20.48 | waterbottles | i'd love to but my internet is down and it requires authentication |
| 19:20.53 | waterbottles | so how am I talking here!? |
| 19:20.55 | Demo_ | jorgenpt: Remember how I said I was going to make my maps triggers so complicated that blizzard can't understand what's going on |
| 19:21.01 | waterbottles | <_< |
| 19:21.37 | Demo_ | Well I decided once I'm completely done, I'm going to rename all of the variables to random letters and numbers, all the triggers, and then on top of that, put them all over the place in a folder each |
| 19:21.41 | waterbottles | BATTLECRUISER OPERATIONAL |
| 19:21.42 | jorgenpt | It's a Rip-Field Generator, waterbottles |
| 19:21.45 | Demo_ | just for the lulz |
| 19:21.50 | waterbottles | now that's wht im talkin about |
| 19:22.30 | waterbottles | o.o supernova has 2000+ revisions |
| 19:22.33 | Arthas- | Meow |
| 19:22.39 | waterbottles | while maw of the void only has 160 |
| 19:22.40 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: No game coming up? |
| 19:22.42 | waterbottles | that's crazy tlak |
| 19:22.45 | AsaPhelps | whats supernova |
| 19:23.05 | waterbottles | the supernova mission |
| 19:23.14 | Fromethius | jorgenpt: the game just ended but i think everyone left (it was a loooong game) |
| 19:23.42 | AsaPhelps | is that the firewall one? |
| 19:24.14 | waterbottles | yea |
| 19:24.23 | waterbottles | worst mission ever |
| 19:24.29 | waterbottles | but there are cheap ways of getting around it |
| 19:24.37 | Cryosis | anyone ever use set point height? |
| 19:24.46 | AsaPhelps | i had trouble in that one |
| 19:25.06 | AsaPhelps | i sent my main army to the base and they got defeated and I couldn't rebuild because the computer was being a jerk |
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| 19:25.19 | AsaPhelps | so I had one spectre with permanent cloak spent 10 minutes killing the building |
| 19:25.26 | AsaPhelps | while I flew my command center to space |
| 19:25.44 | waterbottles | think i should just make my own |
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| 19:26.19 | AsaPhelps | you should make it drain energy too just to make it even more annoying |
| 19:26.37 | waterbottles | doesnt seem to be an effect or a behavior |
| 19:26.44 | waterbottles | at least it's not referenced from the rip field generator |
| 19:27.10 | waterbottles | could be a trigger |
| 19:27.11 | waterbottles | but i doubt |
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| 19:28.05 | Cryosis | Xackery: Hey |
| 19:28.10 | Otixa | sup fags :D |
| 19:28.12 | Xackery | Rawr |
| 19:28.16 | Cryosis | Xackery: I gotta go back to work |
| 19:28.21 | Cryosis | :P |
| 19:28.22 | Xackery | Alrighty |
| 19:28.32 | AsaPhelps | dibs on xackery next |
| 19:28.42 | waterbottles | culterize the area! |
| 19:28.52 | Cryosis | Xackery: don't spend too much time on that problem |
| 19:28.54 | Cryosis | :P |
| 19:29.04 | Xackery | I got it to work to an extent |
| 19:29.05 | Cryosis | thanks for your help! |
| 19:29.09 | Cryosis | niiccee |
| 19:29.11 | Xackery | the issue is identifying the caster of the behavior |
| 19:29.22 | Cryosis_Work | I take it that's tricky |
| 19:29.38 | Xackery | Well a validator has "Other Unit" field, but not sure that's going to resolve my issue |
| 19:30.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster Pierrot (5a207dbd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.32.125.189) |
| 19:30.45 | Pierrot | HEy all |
| 19:30.50 | waterbottles | THE TALDARIM |
| 19:31.16 | waterbottles | damage does not stack |
| 19:31.29 | waterbottles | because that would be ridiculously overpowered |
| 19:31.44 | waterbottles | how do i apply a behavior that just deals damage once |
| 19:31.58 | Xackery | periodic effect |
| 19:31.59 | waterbottles | because if i use a damage effect, it'll stack |
| 19:32.01 | Xackery | with period count 1 |
| 19:32.02 | waterbottles | and i dont want that |
| 19:32.44 | waterbottles | it's like the rip field generaotr, generates a damaging aura |
| 19:32.59 | waterbottles | in my map you can have multiple of them and they can move |
| 19:33.12 | waterbottles | but if the damage stacked, it'd be hugely OP |
| 19:33.15 | waterbottles | so i dont want it to stack |
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| 19:33.34 | Pierrot | initial effect or final effect waterbottls |
| 19:33.45 | waterbottles | iunno |
| 19:34.18 | waterbottles | once an enemy unit enters the aura it'll take damage, once he leaves he wont |
| 19:34.34 | waterbottles | what's the most effiicent way of doing this |
| 19:34.38 | waterbottles | simple search and apply behavior? |
| 19:34.52 | waterbottles | periodic search* |
| 19:35.21 | waterbottles | also want that burn effect how do i do that |
| 19:36.10 | waterbottles | is there a burrowed validator |
| 19:36.22 | waterbottles | my butt smells |
| 19:40.48 | Xackery | bleh |
| 19:40.57 | Xackery | I can't see how you identify the behavior's caster |
| 19:41.13 | jorgenpt | Gah. You know what annoys me |
| 19:41.21 | jorgenpt | File - Image is represented as a string |
| 19:41.23 | jorgenpt | (path of the image) |
| 19:41.29 | jorgenpt | But you CAN'T use a string for it. |
| 19:42.39 | jorgenpt | Unless you do custom script. |
| 19:43.08 | waterbottles | tychus |
| 19:43.11 | waterbottles | what have you done! |
| 19:43.16 | Xackery | Anyways. AsaPhelps did you have a question |
| 19:43.28 | AsaPhelps | water just make a behavior with a periodic searcher that applies an effect that applies damage |
| 19:44.09 | AsaPhelps | i don't have one yet |
| 19:44.13 | jorgenpt | Hm, this is kinda hot. <3 |
| 19:44.17 | AsaPhelps | but I made a hercules go inside a bunker and it was awesome |
| 19:44.42 | AsaPhelps | actually do you know if you can make pre-loaded units in the data editor? |
| 19:45.00 | jorgenpt | I wish~ there was a way to check the current upgrade level in triggers |
| 19:45.05 | jorgenpt | THere's a way to set and increment, but not get. |
| 19:45.05 | jorgenpt | (!) |
| 19:45.41 | jorgenpt | Also, I can consistently crash GE by going to assign an integer value, click search and type "up" |
| 19:46.34 | jorgenpt | Wait what |
| 19:46.35 | jorgenpt | There is |
| 19:46.38 | jorgenpt | Im retarded. |
| 19:46.54 | Xackery | If you can make pre=loaded units in the data editor? |
| 19:47.21 | Xackery | Preloading is a process of loading units during the main load of the game, and is done via actions inside triggers |
| 19:48.18 | Xackery | you preload to stop the shuffle of memory that is normally involved whenever a unit is created, e.g. normally if you never have spawned a zergling before, and you spawn one for the first time, it can cause a split second lag to load the model up. |
| 19:48.33 | Xackery | (if done via triggers at runtime) |
| 19:49.45 | malkavian | I made a map that created you a unit based on your lobby choice, this was done in Map Initialization so I think yes you can preload |
| 19:49.53 | DarkRevenant | have any of you |
| 19:49.57 | DarkRevenant | played golem wars classic? |
| 19:50.17 | rooj | lol i still havent gotten these models for the units worked out |
| 19:50.27 | rooj | i used a trigger to attach an actor to a unit |
| 19:50.32 | DarkRevenant | this review is turning into an endless ride of criticism |
| 19:50.37 | rooj | that shows the model i want, but it also still shows the sphere |
| 19:52.15 | waterbottles | progRammer |
| 19:52.17 | waterbottles | xd |
| 19:53.24 | waterbottles | someone wanna help me out finding what the rip field generator's aura thing is |
| 19:53.29 | waterbottles | still cant find it |
| 19:54.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (6d29935b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.41.147.91) |
| 19:54.38 | waterbottles | searching for rip in effects and behaviors didnt give anything |
| 19:54.49 | waterbottles | the actual unit doesnt seem to have anything related to it |
| 19:58.06 | rooj | oh crap |
| 19:58.13 | rooj | my slam traps dont work |
| 19:58.17 | rooj | you cant walk underneath them |
| 19:58.17 | rooj | lol |
| 19:58.42 | *** join/#sc2mapster Impaler (47ca393e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.202.57.62) |
| 19:58.45 | Impaler | Hello |
| 19:59.06 | Impaler | Anyone familiar with how the dual model system on the Dark templar works |
| 19:59.10 | jorgenpt | Man this is generating 867 lines of code as-is. :o |
| 19:59.25 | jorgenpt | Impaler: Dual model system? |
| 19:59.34 | Impaler | You get some 'tranidtional' style and some with the new 'double scycle' model |
| 19:59.41 | waterbottles | 15:53] <waterbottles> someone wanna help me out finding what the rip field generator's aura thing is [15:53] <waterbottles> still cant find it [15:54] == Demonette [6d29935b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.41.147.91] has joined #sc2mapster [15:54] <waterbottles> searching for rip in effects and behaviors didnt give anything [15:54] <waterbottles> the actual unit doesnt seem to have anything related to it |
| 19:59.42 | jorgenpt | waterbottles: Maybe it's triggers? |
| 19:59.47 | jorgenpt | Impaler: Variations? |
| 19:59.54 | waterbottles | maybe but i couldnt find it in the triggers |
| 20:00.01 | Impaler | yes how is that done |
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| 20:00.20 | jorgenpt | For you, I'll open the map. |
| 20:00.43 | Impaler | I'm thinking of making an upgrade for DT which would change them from the traditional look to the sycle-bar wielding ones |
| 20:01.00 | Impaler | Like how a Marine changes with the shield |
| 20:01.41 | Impaler | so I need to make unupgraded DT always have the traditional model variation |
| 20:02.01 | Impaler | and upgrade always use the new model |
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| 20:05.44 | waterbottles | maybe it is triggers |
| 20:07.02 | waterbottles | shouldn't be though |
| 20:07.03 | jorgenpt | Yeah it is |
| 20:07.33 | waterbottles | where |
| 20:07.57 | jorgenpt | ======= GAMEPLAY ======= > Scripted Events > Damage Shield > Damage Pulse |
| 20:08.27 | waterbottles | oh god that's horrible |
| 20:08.31 | waterbottles | cant that be done with data |
| 20:09.11 | Clord | why you would want to |
| 20:09.13 | Clord | if that works? |
| 20:09.13 | Clord | XD |
| 20:09.15 | jorgenpt | I can't see how they avoid damaging shielded items |
| 20:09.20 | jorgenpt | s/items/uniits/ |
| 20:09.27 | jorgenpt | s/uniits/units/ |
| 20:09.51 | Xackery | jorgenpt: What're you looking at? |
| 20:09.57 | Xackery | Is this a campaign map |
| 20:10.13 | waterbottles | rather try to put all unit effects in data instead of triggers |
| 20:10.14 | jorgenpt | Xackery: Yeah |
| 20:10.19 | jorgenpt | Xackery: TTychos05 |
| 20:10.24 | jorgenpt | It's not for me, it's waterbottles. :-) |
| 20:10.36 | waterbottles | more consistent that way |
| 20:10.37 | waterbottles | :] |
| 20:10.56 | waterbottles | i mean this can be done with data right |
| 20:11.02 | waterbottles | it's just a periodic search isn't it |
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| 20:11.37 | waterbottles | and i have to do it with data because mine is based on movable units that can be created |
| 20:11.46 | Altharaz | does somebody know how to make the turret of a unit look into a direction with triggers? |
| 20:11.50 | waterbottles | the trigger has multiple ifs for each rip field generator |
| 20:12.26 | Xackery | Fun to see how blizz structures a periodic event trigger |
| 20:13.45 | waterbottles | maybe they did it for recording achievements? |
| 20:13.45 | Xackery | I wonder why they structured their switch like this.. in === gameplay === damage shield = reticule killer |
| 20:13.59 | Xackery | they create a seperate switch for each condition even though it's the same condition in each switch |
| 20:14.06 | waterbottles | although cant you just use the fatal damage event to record stats |
| 20:14.55 | waterbottles | switch statements :o |
| 20:15.15 | Xackery | oh, wait I know why |
| 20:15.29 | waterbottles | the taldarim!!!! |
| 20:15.37 | Xackery | because they want each clause to create an action, and not just one, but still why not use if then statements then |
| 20:16.34 | Xackery | Looks like they create fatal damage events for each conditional effect, over creating one trigger with all conditions |
| 20:16.40 | Xackery | I wonder if that's more optimum |
| 20:17.44 | waterbottles | you're pretty fast |
| 20:17.46 | waterbottles | not fast enough! |
| 20:20.18 | waterbottles | THE TALDARIM |
| 20:20.54 | Zaraf | is BNET down right now? |
| 20:21.04 | waterbottles | is it? |
| 20:21.45 | Altharaz | do you know how to change the direction of a turret on a unit? (like the flamethrower for the hellion) |
| 20:21.57 | Zaraf | yeah, both my friend and I can't connect |
| 20:22.50 | waterbottles | woah! |
| 20:22.51 | waterbottles | :) |
| 20:22.53 | waterbottles | (: |
| 20:22.55 | waterbottles | :) |
| 20:22.56 | waterbottles | (: |
| 20:23.17 | waterbottles | new featured maps finally? |
| 20:23.21 | waterbottles | wonder what they put up |
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| 20:24.41 | Zaraf | apparently they crashed |
| 20:24.45 | Zaraf | they're looking into it |
| 20:24.49 | waterbottles | are you seriius |
| 20:24.53 | waterbottles | i was expecting an update ":/ |
| 20:25.24 | waterbottles | XD @ bnet forums: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/40568/ |
| 20:25.26 | soundsnc | is there a function to get the client resolution? |
| 20:25.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster ColbyCheeZe (428c651d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.140.101.29) |
| 20:25.33 | waterbottles | they all throw a hissy fit when it goes down |
| 20:25.40 | soundsnc | say if i wanted a dialog to reach perfectly from top to bottom of the screen |
| 20:25.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster slightlyrandom (~random@port451.ds1-ba.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 20:25.43 | soundsnc | but adapt |
| 20:26.04 | ColbyCheeZe | Hi hi :P |
| 20:26.19 | Zaraf | I hope this crash resets the popularity ratings for maps |
| 20:26.40 | Zaraf | then some of those SHIT popular maps can disappear into obscurity.... |
| 20:26.50 | Zaraf | at least I can hope |
| 20:26.53 | waterbottles | yea it'll reset |
| 20:27.02 | waterbottles | it reset last week |
| 20:27.12 | waterbottles | and the popular maps just go right back up :/ |
| 20:27.47 | Xackery | They just need a better indexing and tag-based search system for games. :/ |
| 20:28.24 | ColbyCheeZe | id love a search feature |
| 20:28.29 | ColbyCheeZe | only way to search is to create a game |
| 20:28.44 | waterbottles | why the heck dont they have a search for joining games |
| 20:28.46 | waterbottles | it's dum |
| 20:28.51 | ColbyCheeZe | When I want to play a less popular map I just have to invite a bunch of peeps to a party |
| 20:29.08 | Arthas- | meh, my text tags just flew away from me :< |
| 20:29.23 | waterbottles | holy christ this topic was posted 17 minutes ago and already has 400+ posts: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/608681253 |
| 20:29.37 | Arthas- | lemme guess |
| 20:29.37 | waterbottles | when the servers go down, everyone goes the forum xd |
| 20:29.39 | Arthas- | terran is op? |
| 20:30.46 | Zaraf | anyone know how my friend's map can rise up in popularity once BNET is back up? |
| 20:31.05 | Zaraf | his map is basically done, but he hasn't attempted to bring up the popularity yet |
| 20:31.10 | Zaraf | and it's a perfect multiplayer map too |
| 20:31.59 | *** join/#sc2mapster jorgenpt (~jorgenpt@arachnophobia.daxnet.org) |
| 20:32.16 | waterbottles | advertise it on bnet forums |
| 20:32.18 | waterbottles | it's agood start |
| 20:32.23 | waterbottles | post an official map topic there |
| 20:32.26 | Otixa | We haz Vent now? :D |
| 20:32.52 | waterbottles | no we dont |
| 20:32.59 | waterbottles | this is all we need |
| 20:33.10 | waterbottles | i just ate $10 worth of taco bell |
| 20:33.13 | waterbottles | can you imagine how full i would be? |
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| 20:33.34 | Arthas- | Anyone have an idea of how to make a text tag follow the unit as it walks? Attaching the tag to a unit doesnt seem to do the job for me |
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| 20:34.49 | Zaraf | [14:33] Garrett: i had some guy test my map who after it i asked how did you like it |
| 20:34.49 | Zaraf | [14:33] Garrett: he goes its ok |
| 20:34.49 | Zaraf | [14:33] Garrett: but i like games where i dont have to do anything |
| 20:34.49 | Zaraf | [14:33] Garrett: so that was that |
| 20:34.49 | Zaraf | [14:34] Zaraf: lol |
| 20:37.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster Fiftysix (~chatzilla@dhcp-0-15-e9-6c-7a-db.cpe.mountaincable.net) |
| 20:37.31 | waterbottles | WOAH |
| 20:38.12 | waterbottles | that guy is so touchable :3 |
| 20:38.13 | waterbottles | hi |
| 20:38.22 | Zaraf | who? |
| 20:38.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster Xaragoth (~Noone@port-92-202-8-145.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 20:39.36 | waterbottles | i dont think anyone sane disagrees that terrans are OP |
| 20:39.43 | waterbottles | cept the terran players of course |
| 20:39.58 | Otixa | Your face is OP |
| 20:40.00 | waterbottles | everything is just so easy to execute for terrans |
| 20:40.01 | waterbottles | :/ |
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| 20:40.07 | Redfox777 | yo yo |
| 20:40.13 | waterbottles | bnet is not down |
| 20:40.15 | waterbottles | go play! |
| 20:40.16 | waterbottles | ) |
| 20:40.29 | Arthas- | they are clearly nerfing zerg atm |
| 20:40.32 | Arthas- | \o |
| 20:40.53 | Arthas- | Ingela you need to stop playing Z! :D |
| 20:41.07 | Ingela | omg |
| 20:41.08 | Ingela | bnet is down |
| 20:41.13 | Ingela | ? |
| 20:41.34 | Arthas- | increased maximum hp of marines by 5 |
| 20:41.43 | Arthas- | removed disgusting mutalisk from game |
| 20:41.47 | Xaragoth | increased spawning number of zerglings by 20 |
| 20:41.48 | waterbottles | bnet is up! |
| 20:41.51 | Xaragoth | food remains 2 |
| 20:41.53 | Xaragoth | eh 1 |
| 20:41.53 | waterbottles | XD there's only 2 custom games on the list |
| 20:41.56 | Arthas- | Xaragoth :D |
| 20:41.59 | waterbottles | and they're the featured ones |
| 20:42.15 | waterbottles | popularity reset!! gogoogogogogogogooggoogogogogog bump your map before it;s too latre!!! |
| 20:42.17 | Arthas- | so, anyone have any idea on the text tag? :-) |
| 20:42.59 | Ingela | they just need to do two things to fix stuff atm, scvs repairing have higher priority and queens need like +1 more on attack range to ground |
| 20:43.03 | waterbottles | OMFG why do people pick the custom category when the god damn map defaults at the intended category! |
| 20:43.08 | waterbottles | i hate players sometimes |
| 20:43.22 | Ingela | and just remove reapers from the game or remove their retarded builddamage |
| 20:43.33 | Arthas- | Ingela |
| 20:43.35 | Arthas- | I has a song for you |
| 20:43.45 | Ingela | don't fear the reaper |
| 20:43.54 | Arthas- | much indeed! |
| 20:44.01 | Otixa | plays air guitar hero |
| 20:44.04 | Arthas- | now stop asking them to nerf my faves :D |
| 20:44.06 | Otixa | punches himself |
| 20:44.08 | Xaragoth | reaper rush ... outmatched by hydra rush |
| 20:44.09 | Demonette | XD |
| 20:44.10 | waterbottles | o nvm servers are still down, no servers currently available when you try to create lobbies :3 |
| 20:44.13 | Ingela | plays mind games with Arthas- :D |
| 20:44.17 | Otixa | hai Demonette |
| 20:44.26 | Arthas- | I seriously play that song when reaper rushing |
| 20:44.27 | Arthas- | :p |
| 20:44.27 | waterbottles | have you guys heard of the evo chamber rush? |
| 20:44.29 | waterbottles | it's so funny |
| 20:44.32 | Ingela | lol |
| 20:44.34 | Ingela | that's just dumb |
| 20:44.36 | Demonette | Hi Otixa |
| 20:44.40 | waterbottles | especially when the zerg player faced a terran player |
| 20:44.45 | Demonette | i'm not here so doesn`t care about me =P |
| 20:44.46 | waterbottles | the terran tears were so delicious |
| 20:44.49 | Otixa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKxiLCMb6Q4&feature=search |
| 20:44.51 | Demonette | blurres. |
| 20:44.52 | Ingela | gz you spent over 9000 minerals to barely take down one marine |
| 20:45.11 | Zaraf | hey guys, anyone want to help me bump Fiftysix's map up in popularity once we can start creating games? |
| 20:45.14 | Otixa | Zealot push > profit |
| 20:45.26 | waterbottles | what is it called |
| 20:45.28 | Fromethius | oooh popularity reset |
| 20:45.30 | Fromethius | NOW'S MY CHANCE |
| 20:45.33 | Zaraf | Headquarters |
| 20:45.36 | Ingela | Fromethius, release your map on eu already |
| 20:45.42 | Zaraf | on NA server |
| 20:45.47 | Otixa | Fromethius, you still smell! |
| 20:45.56 | waterbottles | you can create maps now! |
| 20:45.59 | waterbottles | GOOGOGOG |
| 20:46.07 | waterbottles | POPULARITY RESET BITCHES WHAT ARE YOU DOIN SITTIN HERE |
| 20:46.10 | waterbottles | GO BUMP SOME GOOD MAPS |
| 20:46.18 | Fromethius | otixia: who needs personal hygiene when you'er rank 1 popularity?!??!?! =O |
| 20:46.25 | Otixa | :D |
| 20:46.26 | Arthas- | ah well |
| 20:46.34 | Arthas- | time to reap some moar T/Z |
| 20:46.39 | Otixa | Anyway |
| 20:46.41 | Otixa | Back to ciding |
| 20:46.48 | waterbottles | otixa help em out NOW |
| 20:46.49 | waterbottles | :) |
| 20:46.50 | Otixa | puts out his cig in Arthas-' forehead |
| 20:46.56 | *** part/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Kevin@149-149-169-251-117.nat.asu.edu) |
| 20:46.56 | Otixa | coding* |
| 20:46.59 | Arthas- | i did that on myself a week ago or two |
| 20:46.59 | Otixa | waterbottles, wut? |
| 20:47.03 | Arthas- | i got burnmarks :< |
| 20:47.05 | waterbottles | bump maps |
| 20:47.07 | waterbottles | haaalp |
| 20:47.07 | Ingela | i got the patch notes btw... let me link |
| 20:47.10 | HeyRevolver | highfives Otixa |
| 20:47.12 | Otixa | bump maps? |
| 20:47.17 | Otixa | What are you? In the 70s? |
| 20:47.18 | waterbottles | popularity just reset bro! |
| 20:47.24 | waterbottles | hug me! |
| 20:47.30 | Otixa | kicks waterbottles |
| 20:47.31 | HeyRevolver | thinks Otixa is a jive turkey |
| 20:47.34 | Otixa | highfives HeyRevolver |
| 20:47.40 | Otixa | wut >:| |
| 20:47.42 | Ingela | Bugfixes: - Fixed the bug when windows 2000 users sometimes crashed when started a new campaign |
| 20:47.43 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 20:47.47 | HeyRevolver | no one called anyone a JT |
| 20:47.50 | HeyRevolver | I was just kidding |
| 20:48.04 | Otixa | stabs HeyRevolver |
| 20:48.10 | Fromethius | amg popularity reset! |
| 20:48.10 | HeyRevolver | bleeds |
| 20:48.14 | Fromethius | everyone join island defense and leave =D |
| 20:48.16 | Fromethius | !!! |
| 20:48.24 | Fromethius | will <3 you |
| 20:48.26 | waterbottles | i swear to god |
| 20:48.33 | waterbottles | why do people pick custom categor |
| 20:48.43 | waterbottles | it just screws up the teams |
| 20:48.52 | HeyRevolver | oh thats why my teams are messed up? |
| 20:48.58 | HeyRevolver | what do I pick |
| 20:49.00 | Arthas- | Ingela |
| 20:49.01 | slightlyrandom | waterbottles: Because the custom map system sucks ass |
| 20:49.02 | Arthas- | wanna play? |
| 20:49.06 | Arthas- | 3v3 or 4v4 |
| 20:49.14 | Ingela | i'm studying |
| 20:49.16 | Ingela | sorry |
| 20:49.17 | waterbottles | it has nothing to do with that! |
| 20:49.24 | Arthas- | LIES! :< |
| 20:49.25 | Zaraf | hey guys, on NA, please join Headquarters :) |
| 20:49.26 | slightlyrandom | It is the sole reason for it |
| 20:49.26 | Otixa | Ingela, what are you supposed to be anyway? ¬_¬ |
| 20:49.29 | Arthas- | what are you studying? |
| 20:49.29 | waterbottles | the players create a game and then change the category to custom |
| 20:49.34 | Ingela | Otixa, wooot |
| 20:49.38 | waterbottles | even when it defaults at the regular category |
| 20:49.42 | Otixa | Ingela, what are you good at? ;p |
| 20:49.47 | slightlyrandom | Yes, and you can lay the blame squarely at the custom game system |
| 20:49.52 | Ingela | i'm awesome at sc2 |
| 20:49.54 | slightlyrandom | It's a poorly designed piece of shit |
| 20:50.04 | waterbottles | Helms deep is top |
| 20:50.05 | waterbottles | i knew it |
| 20:50.05 | Otixa | throws brick |
| 20:50.15 | waterbottles | if i releeased my helms deep earlier, mine wouldve been top :( |
| 20:50.30 | waterbottles | but i kinda gave up on the map |
| 20:50.32 | waterbottles | so all is lost |
| 20:50.40 | waterbottles | his is very similar to mine too |
| 20:50.42 | *** join/#sc2mapster etravex (4b8eecee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.142.236.238) |
| 20:50.49 | waterbottles | it's coop defense instead of versus |
| 20:50.50 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o nicoli_s] by ChanServ |
| 20:50.51 | slightlyrandom | I guess we all lost out in that deal |
| 20:50.56 | waterbottles | :/ |
| 20:50.59 | waterbottles | hi slightlyrandom |
| 20:51.01 | waterbottles | hi |
| 20:51.03 | Zaraf | if you join a game and then quit right away after the game starts, will it raise the popularity? |
| 20:51.08 | waterbottles | prob |
| 20:51.10 | slightlyrandom | No Zara |
| 20:51.11 | Fromethius | i think so |
| 20:51.11 | slightlyrandom | f |
| 20:51.15 | Otixa | u |
| 20:51.17 | Fromethius | really? |
| 20:51.23 | slightlyrandom | It counts your ID once per hour |
| 20:51.24 | waterbottles | not sure how it's calculated |
| 20:51.26 | waterbottles | it's weird |
| 20:51.28 | slightlyrandom | and you need to stay in the game for 5 minutes |
| 20:51.31 | Fromethius | oh |
| 20:51.42 | slightlyrandom | SUCK IT BUMPING ASSHATS! |
| 20:51.42 | Zaraf | what if you're the only guy in the game? is that good enough? |
| 20:51.58 | slightlyrandom | Pretty sure you need to be two people |
| 20:52.06 | etravex | Anyone interested in joining me for a 2nd boss balance run in my game Infested Arena? |
| 20:52.24 | waterbottles | how do single player maps get bumped then |
| 20:52.29 | waterbottles | are those an exception |
| 20:52.36 | slightlyrandom | Well, gee |
| 20:52.49 | waterbottles | so if a map has at least 2 user slots, it'll need at least 2 human players to raise pop? |
| 20:52.56 | waterbottles | hi slightlyrandom |
| 20:52.57 | waterbottles | hi |
| 20:52.58 | waterbottles | HII |
| 20:52.59 | waterbottles | HI!!!!!! |
| 20:53.18 | vxcriss | lol |
| 20:53.27 | vxcriss | I found a way to increase the popularity of your own map |
| 20:53.37 | vxcriss | you keep creating games, and exiting |
| 20:53.45 | vxcriss | epic fail bnet! |
| 20:53.49 | Xaragoth | you know |
| 20:53.55 | Xaragoth | you could always just make a quitbug |
| 20:54.00 | Xaragoth | and trick people into joining |
| 20:54.21 | Ingela | dota during beta |
| 20:54.22 | Ingela | :DD:D:D: |
| 20:54.34 | Otixa | ... |
| 20:54.37 | Otixa | ...dota?! |
| 20:54.42 | waterbottles | SCREW YOU |
| 20:54.45 | Otixa | slaps Ingela with a brick |
| 20:54.51 | Ingela | yeah they did a rickroll dota |
| 20:54.57 | waterbottles | damn player base wouldn't stop picking the damn custom cat |
| 20:55.15 | Otixa | They should ban dota >:| |
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| 20:56.17 | Redfox777 | How can I make a turret turn when using an ability? |
| 20:56.20 | waterbottles | great |
| 20:56.22 | waterbottles | nexus wars is back top again |
| 20:56.32 | waterbottles | screws this system |
| 20:56.39 | Redfox777 | like I want it to turn towards the curser placement |
| 20:56.53 | Redfox777 | not having any luck with the actors |
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| 20:57.34 | vxcriss | you know what's funny |
| 20:57.40 | Otixa | Your face |
| 20:57.44 | waterbottles | vxcriss what's your map |
| 20:57.46 | waterbottles | i want to play |
| 20:57.48 | waterbottles | PLEASE |
| 20:57.51 | waterbottles | i want to help bump! |
| 20:57.56 | vxcriss | there's absolutely no damn ordering options... but there IS an option to pick game speed filter :)))))) |
| 20:58.01 | waterbottles | at least to get that god forsaken nexus wars out of top |
| 20:58.15 | Otixa | goes to check on the maps |
| 20:58.22 | waterbottles | anyone else mad |
| 20:58.23 | waterbottles | cuz i am |
| 20:58.24 | waterbottles | very mad |
| 20:58.25 | vxcriss | good thing I set my game speed to normal so they are fewer to browser |
| 20:58.27 | waterbottles | i want to punch someone |
| 20:58.30 | vxcriss | waterbottles are you on EU? |
| 20:58.33 | waterbottles | NA |
| 20:58.35 | waterbottles | US |
| 20:58.43 | vxcriss | well, you can publish it if you want |
| 20:58.47 | waterbottles | what |
| 20:58.50 | Redfox777 | what is everyone complaining about? |
| 20:59.05 | vxcriss | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/war-games-sim-331/ |
| 20:59.18 | vxcriss | I just want to know how it plays and if its fun lol |
| 20:59.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~IceChat7@ip-114-201.static.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 20:59.30 | rulssi-509 | http://pastebin.com/b3pKTheJ sigh, im so tired but i want to ge this working |
| 20:59.30 | waterbottles | I couldn't publish it |
| 20:59.34 | vxcriss | why? |
| 20:59.35 | waterbottles | it would put shame on me |
| 20:59.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demo (ae14d4d1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.20.212.209) |
| 20:59.43 | vxcriss | well I'm giving you permission |
| 20:59.49 | vxcriss | btw Otixa |
| 20:59.54 | waterbottles | lemme check if others published it |
| 20:59.56 | Demo | How to remove the hp bar above a units head? |
| 21:00.02 | Demo | so even if holding alt they can't see it |
| 21:00.06 | vxcriss | did you guys at SC2Mapster have any plans of setting some sort of cross-realm publishing? |
| 21:00.06 | Otixa | sup |
| 21:00.17 | Otixa | I'm not staff ;p |
| 21:00.23 | vxcriss | ye but you're mod aren't ya |
| 21:00.23 | Otixa | I am Otixa |
| 21:00.28 | Otixa | I transcend time and space |
| 21:00.31 | Otixa | Nope |
| 21:00.37 | vxcriss | ah FU then |
| 21:00.43 | Otixa | fu too ;P |
| 21:00.47 | vxcriss | lol |
| 21:00.52 | Redfox777 | so about turrets and abilities |
| 21:01.05 | Redfox777 | anyone here to offer help |
| 21:01.06 | Redfox777 | ? |
| 21:01.16 | vxcriss | it would be cool of they would have accounts on all 4 servers and help publish on all servers |
| 21:01.22 | Otixa | No, we're here to tell you you suck |
| 21:01.28 | Otixa | In new and creative ways |
| 21:01.29 | Demo | How do you remove the health bar even when holding alt? |
| 21:01.32 | Redfox777 | well then |
| 21:02.02 | Redfox777 | how bout you help me so I can go on not sucking |
| 21:02.07 | Redfox777 | in new and creative ways |
| 21:02.20 | s3rius | @Demo - you can use triggers to disable healthbars for units |
| 21:02.22 | Otixa | :D |
| 21:02.25 | vxcriss | so... anyone on any server... if you want to publish my map on any server outside EU, feel free to do it, I just want to know how the map plays out, I've worked for 4 weeks on this thing and I can't experience it :( |
| 21:02.49 | Redfox777 | why cant you experience it? |
| 21:02.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster Alcoholix (Beertycoon@53573FA1.cable.casema.nl) |
| 21:02.55 | vxcriss | got nobody to play it with :( |
| 21:02.57 | waterbottles | wish there was a way to remove that god forsaken custom category |
| 21:03.02 | Redfox777 | you need to promote |
| 21:03.05 | waterbottles | so jackasses dont pick it |
| 21:03.08 | Otixa | vxcriss, wut map? |
| 21:03.08 | Redfox777 | lots of youtube videos |
| 21:03.14 | Redfox777 | lots of hype |
| 21:03.21 | vxcriss | ye, the custom option is dumb, but then again, there's lots of other dumb things about bnet |
| 21:03.25 | Redfox777 | you cant expect to publish and have players |
| 21:03.26 | vxcriss | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/war-games-sim-331/ |
| 21:03.33 | Otixa | oh, that |
| 21:03.38 | waterbottles | they still pick it |
| 21:03.40 | vxcriss | Redfox... kinda hard to make gameplay videos if you got nobody to play it with :P |
| 21:03.42 | waterbottles | wtf is wrong with them! |
| 21:03.53 | waterbottles | and now it's more popular than the regular intended version |
| 21:03.54 | waterbottles | im fucked |
| 21:03.57 | Otixa | vxcriss, can do tomorrow after bank |
| 21:03.59 | Redfox777 | you have to promote as much as possible and get people excited....think like a game dev not a mapper :p |
| 21:04.08 | vxcriss | my friends are too cheap to spend 60euro on the game :P |
| 21:04.14 | vxcriss | well, that would be cool Otix |
| 21:04.15 | waterbottles | get them guest passes |
| 21:04.16 | Redfox777 | that blows |
| 21:04.20 | waterbottles | it's a good star |
| 21:04.24 | Redfox777 | are you US? |
| 21:04.26 | waterbottles | my guest pass experied :)( |
| 21:04.28 | waterbottles | :( |
| 21:04.29 | waterbottles | :/ |
| 21:04.30 | waterbottles | whatdup |
| 21:04.32 | waterbottles | wadddddudp! |
| 21:04.32 | Otixa | can get my 2v2 partner to play it too |
| 21:04.36 | rooj | whats everyones favorite melee map? |
| 21:04.47 | waterbottles | i forgot the last time i played melee |
| 21:04.51 | waterbottles | all customs atm |
| 21:04.54 | rooj | i think i'll just use that for melee madness |
| 21:04.58 | Redfox777 | vxcriss are you EU or NA? |
| 21:04.59 | vxcriss | you can play the map 1v1 if you want, the system scales |
| 21:05.00 | rooj | instead of making my own map |
| 21:05.00 | waterbottles | meleeeeeeeeeeeeeee madness |
| 21:05.05 | vxcriss | you can even play it 1v2 with proper balance |
| 21:05.13 | waterbottles | vxcriss i LOVE you |
| 21:05.13 | vxcriss | I'm on EU |
| 21:05.17 | waterbottles | no homo |
| 21:05.17 | Redfox777 | damn |
| 21:05.17 | rooj | is there a melee madness map in SC1 or WC3? |
| 21:05.20 | Redfox777 | im NA :( |
| 21:05.25 | waterbottles | publish the map! |
| 21:05.26 | rooj | how come its always no homo |
| 21:05.29 | rooj | why cant it just be homo |
| 21:05.31 | Redfox777 | it looks way cool |
| 21:05.41 | Otixa | rooj, no, homo >:[ |
| 21:05.42 | waterbottles | go publish it |
| 21:05.45 | waterbottles | you have permission |
| 21:05.47 | waterbottles | from me |
| 21:05.47 | rooj | >8| |
| 21:05.49 | Redfox777 | kind of like a american gladiators arena or something |
| 21:05.59 | waterbottles | cmoon |
| 21:06.03 | waterbottles | i'd rather not publish it |
| 21:06.06 | Redfox777 | publish what? |
| 21:06.08 | waterbottles | the mpa |
| 21:06.12 | waterbottles | the map |
| 21:06.14 | waterbottles | his map |
| 21:06.18 | Redfox777 | vxcriss? |
| 21:06.19 | waterbottles | vxcriss 's map |
| 21:06.20 | waterbottles | yes |
| 21:06.21 | waterbottles | gogoogogg |
| 21:06.22 | waterbottles | please |
| 21:06.22 | waterbottles | man |
| 21:06.24 | waterbottles | please! |
| 21:06.27 | waterbottles | for the love of |
| 21:06.28 | rooj | my melee madmess map is just gonna be regular melee except all the abilities are gonna be swapped around |
| 21:06.31 | vxcriss | my map will auto-scale unit cap and regular player income + bounty based on the number of players on the team, so you can even play 1v3 and it wills till be fair |
| 21:06.33 | Redfox777 | I dont have any open slots lol |
| 21:06.38 | waterbottles | :( |
| 21:06.41 | rooj | im gonna try to make one of the units fly |
| 21:06.41 | waterbottles | i dont want to publish it |
| 21:06.44 | waterbottles | i feel like a jerk if ido |
| 21:06.47 | Redfox777 | why not? |
| 21:06.52 | rooj | maybe flying zerglings? |
| 21:06.52 | Redfox777 | did he say you could? |
| 21:06.53 | rooj | or |
| 21:06.54 | rooj | wait |
| 21:06.56 | rooj | FLYING FIREBATS |
| 21:06.58 | waterbottles | i suppose |
| 21:06.59 | rooj | GET IT |
| 21:07.06 | waterbottles | think i hve to loalize it though |
| 21:07.07 | vxcriss | dud if you want to publish mind, please do |
| 21:07.09 | waterbottles | localize |
| 21:07.10 | waterbottles | :4 |
| 21:07.14 | vxcriss | mine |
| 21:07.16 | Redfox777 | ew |
| 21:07.20 | waterbottles | gross |
| 21:07.20 | Redfox777 | i dont know how to do that |
| 21:08.35 | vxcriss | I also have a new map that I'm working on which is a totally original idea and will be pretty cool, can't provide details though, but I'm pretty depressed about this publishing experience right now :( |
| 21:08.50 | waterbottles | Actually isn't there a way to prevent people from continue playing Custom Category! |
| 21:08.51 | waterbottles | ? |
| 21:08.55 | waterbottles | like when in game |
| 21:09.01 | vxcriss | I think it is |
| 21:09.01 | waterbottles | you check for the game attribute |
| 21:09.09 | waterbottles | and then end the game with a big WARNING message |
| 21:09.10 | waterbottles | saying |
| 21:09.13 | vxcriss | ye |
| 21:09.14 | waterbottles | DONT PLAY CUSTOM FOOL |
| 21:09.18 | vxcriss | "FU MORON!" |
| 21:09.24 | waterbottles | yea that's what im talkin about |
| 21:09.57 | vxcriss | or even better, have a map-wide trigger that randomly teleports units anywhere on the map, when someone tries to click them |
| 21:10.02 | vxcriss | that would be better |
| 21:10.13 | waterbottles | nah that'll just scare them away from the map in general |
| 21:10.19 | waterbottles | doesnt help promote the other mode :/ |
| 21:10.56 | waterbottles | so basically my map is on the top page twice |
| 21:11.00 | waterbottles | so my popularity is being split :/ |
| 21:11.06 | waterbottles | so lame |
| 21:11.22 | waterbottles | that demo man is a spy! |
| 21:11.32 | waterbottles | vxcriss what's the top maps at EU atm? |
| 21:11.33 | Demo | ? |
| 21:11.36 | Demo | I am not |
| 21:11.53 | Vail | not what a spy ? |
| 21:12.00 | Demo | correct. |
| 21:12.16 | waterbottles | i dont have faith in US region |
| 21:12.23 | waterbottles | but i might have faith in the EU region |
| 21:12.31 | waterbottles | what are the top maps at the EU region onw? |
| 21:12.52 | waterbottles | popularity should've risen enough to get the top contenders staying |
| 21:12.57 | waterbottles | by now |
| 21:12.58 | waterbottles | :] |
| 21:13.41 | vxcriss | let me check |
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| 21:14.49 | vxcriss | defend the moon, idra simulator (this one showed up recently), nexus wars, income wars, blue circle TD, overrun!!, and that unit test map |
| 21:14.52 | vxcriss | those are top |
| 21:15.22 | vxcriss | I won't mention the favorites, they are so bad, whoever chose them should be drowned |
| 21:15.34 | Vail | i cant believe blizzard is punishing us for removing content from the server space we are alloted by permanently prohibited new content with that name |
| 21:15.55 | waterbottles | idra simulator? |
| 21:15.56 | waterbottles | XD |
| 21:15.58 | vxcriss | ye |
| 21:16.03 | waterbottles | what is |
| 21:16.04 | vxcriss | that one just showed up today ro so |
| 21:16.06 | waterbottles | what is it |
| 21:16.11 | vxcriss | I have no idea, gonna test it out |
| 21:16.17 | waterbottles | some random text messages that show idra rage? |
| 21:16.28 | antares- | apologize for playing that race! |
| 21:16.32 | mattavich-377 | I can't wait for sept 11th |
| 21:16.37 | waterbottles | me too |
| 21:16.42 | mattavich-377 | My map is almost complete |
| 21:16.48 | mattavich-377 | the problem is i need testers |
| 21:16.58 | Triceron | what kind of map is it |
| 21:17.01 | mattavich-377 | If the map was "out there" i would be already making better progress |
| 21:17.05 | waterbottles | progammer!!!!!!!!!!!!' |
| 21:17.08 | waterbottles | :[ |
| 21:17.21 | mattavich-377 | Well it is an 8 player map |
| 21:17.31 | waterbottles | you're playing the wrong map! |
| 21:17.32 | waterbottles | argh |
| 21:17.45 | mattavich-377 | where the object is to use strategy and micromanagement to be the player with the most kills |
| 21:18.03 | Triceron | so.. 8 player dota? |
| 21:18.05 | Triceron | :P |
| 21:18.10 | s3rius | Nope, 8-players Evolves |
| 21:18.13 | mattavich-377 | It's alla bout who is th ebest with the forces given tot hem, the more kills and others stuff you get, the more rewards you are given |
| 21:18.19 | mattavich-377 | Neither |
| 21:18.24 | waterbottles | oh gosh it's s3rius! :3 |
| 21:18.26 | waterbottles | hi s3rius |
| 21:18.33 | Xaragoth | omg ... blizzcon pet |
| 21:18.35 | s3rius | hai hai |
| 21:18.37 | Xaragoth | Deathloc |
| 21:18.38 | mattavich-377 | I think, you would ahve to play to completely understand |
| 21:18.49 | s3rius | mattavich, I DID play with you xD |
| 21:18.54 | Xaragoth | oh btw |
| 21:18.57 | Vail | Hey goomba_ you stil here ? |
| 21:18.58 | s3rius | Remember imba nova with mindcontrolling your hero? |
| 21:19.00 | Xaragoth | Bibendus! |
| 21:19.06 | Xaragoth | I played Corpses with a pal last night. |
| 21:19.11 | Xaragoth | Its too damn easy. |
| 21:19.12 | mattavich-377 | S3rius it's way past that now hehe |
| 21:19.16 | Bibendus | ye |
| 21:19.17 | waterbottles | s3rius what's the best way to prevent people from picking Custom category upon lobby creation? |
| 21:19.19 | Bibendus | now its 2 easy |
| 21:19.26 | Bibendus | now it is |
| 21:19.29 | Bibendus | oh stupid lag |
| 21:19.31 | waterbottles | since you cant remove the option |
| 21:19.33 | Xaragoth | lol ^^ |
| 21:19.33 | s3rius | How unfortunate. It was damn funny to just grab another one's hero. |
| 21:19.36 | mattavich-377 | I'm made a lot of tweaks since nova was mindcontrollignh eros :d |
| 21:19.39 | Xaragoth | yeah, well |
| 21:19.39 | mattavich-377 | heros |
| 21:19.41 | vxcriss | well, I'm having trouble testing a map that works in 1v1 :) good luck testing a 8 player map :) |
| 21:19.43 | Xaragoth | its probably because of the big guns |
| 21:19.55 | Bibendus | the plasma gun |
| 21:19.55 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:19.57 | Xaragoth | plasma + rocket |
| 21:19.59 | waterbottles | because jackasswipes still pick custom category |
| 21:20.00 | Xaragoth | i win buttons |
| 21:20.02 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 21:20.04 | Bibendus | need better zombies |
| 21:20.05 | s3rius | @waterbottles just select your own game category, right click on it and tick "default". |
| 21:20.06 | mattavich-377 | Luckily vxcriss, msot people who played the map keep asking for another game :P |
| 21:20.06 | Bibendus | on late waves |
| 21:20.08 | waterbottles | even when it defaulted to the intended category |
| 21:20.11 | s3rius | should work |
| 21:20.12 | waterbottles | i did |
| 21:20.14 | Bibendus | however i m working on the contest map |
| 21:20.18 | waterbottles | but people still pick the custom one |
| 21:20.19 | Bibendus | so i don't have time to work on corpses :D |
| 21:20.20 | waterbottles | i hate them all |
| 21:20.21 | Xaragoth | maybe walk away from the zombie-shooter |
| 21:20.25 | Xaragoth | and go to a terran vs zerg |
| 21:20.29 | Xaragoth | you got more units that way |
| 21:20.31 | vxcriss | lucky bastard! |
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| 21:20.48 | s3rius | In this case - ask Blizzard >.< Well, at least it should be defaulted to your mode. |
| 21:21.05 | waterbottles | can i say, check for an attribute at the start of the game, and if it's custom, just end the game and put a big message saying DONT PLAY CUSTOM MODE YOU A-HOLES |
| 21:21.17 | vxcriss | can't we have sc2mapster start a petition about the bnet issues and then send it to blizzard or something |
| 21:21.21 | waterbottles | it is defaulted to my intedned mode |
| 21:21.34 | waterbottles | but people refuse to NOT pick custom |
| 21:21.53 | waterbottles | they think it's supposed to be some super cool custom mode or something |
| 21:22.01 | waterbottles | when in fact it's just messed up teams! |
| 21:22.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@205.155.225.1) |
| 21:22.26 | azala | if you can actually check for that attribute, you should do that, end the game when you detect it. |
| 21:22.36 | waterbottles | yup that's what i was thinking |
| 21:22.41 | vxcriss | personally I think the game variants implementation is just a kick in the balls it doesn't help with anything and it only makes life harder for everyone |
| 21:22.55 | azala | you could say that about a lot of things in custom maps |
| 21:22.59 | s3rius | Yep. It's a nice idea, but badly done. |
| 21:23.16 | waterbottles | not to mention they have to deal with a 30 second countdown |
| 21:23.25 | vxcriss | I spent 4 hours this morning just to set up the game variant and have it work properly :( |
| 21:23.27 | azala | the most egregious issues, imo, being - not being able to search the join list, and not being able to sort the list at all |
| 21:23.32 | waterbottles | my regular mode has a 23 second countdown |
| 21:23.36 | s3rius | And not being able to leave during automatic countdown >.< |
| 21:23.38 | waterbottles | which is still much better than 30 seconds |
| 21:23.47 | azala | its not nearly as huge as the search issue |
| 21:23.52 | vxcriss | ye |
| 21:23.58 | azala | that single issue will annihilate 90+% of good maps |
| 21:24.04 | vxcriss | 99% more like |
| 21:24.14 | vxcriss | 4 servers :P |
| 21:24.18 | waterbottles | and when people pick custom they dont know which one to pick so it splits popularity |
| 21:24.19 | waterbottles | 0 |
| 21:24.20 | waterbottles | :0 |
| 21:24.22 | waterbottles | :] |
| 21:24.26 | waterbottles | :[ |
| 21:24.30 | waterbottles | i am |
| 21:24.31 | waterbottles | mad |
| 21:24.32 | *** part/#sc2mapster slightlyrandom (~random@port451.ds1-ba.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 21:24.33 | waterbottles | i want to hurt someone |
| 21:24.40 | waterbottles | hey lets punch slightlyrandom |
| 21:24.43 | waterbottles | for the hell of it |
| 21:25.06 | waterbottles | it's the same game for christ sake |
| 21:25.09 | waterbottles | lsjfdslkflfkdfkslfjslkdjfjlkdsjfljsdlkjldfjdljlkfjds |
| 21:25.25 | waterbottles | to use with the instruction sheet, MV-44/.1, when applying for |
| 21:25.42 | waterbottles | who here uses ms dos |
| 21:25.58 | Arthas- | god damn crappy battle net |
| 21:26.04 | Arthas- | fucking worthless piece of shit |
| 21:26.11 | rooj | O_O; |
| 21:26.31 | Vail | whats wrong Arthas-? |
| 21:26.37 | Arthas- | bnet crashed |
| 21:26.46 | Arthas- | AGAIN |
| 21:26.55 | Vail | and you were winning a game ? |
| 21:26.58 | azala | you on a mac? |
| 21:27.02 | Arthas- | no idea |
| 21:27.06 | Arthas- | too early to say |
| 21:27.14 | Arthas- | but last time this happened bnet gave us a loss |
| 21:27.28 | soundsnc | anybody know how to get client resolution? |
| 21:27.28 | Arthas- | just like in this game, back then we hadnt even engaged in battle |
| 21:27.37 | waterbottles | ENGAGING! |
| 21:28.10 | Vail | did it give both sides a loss? |
| 21:28.44 | Arthas- | nope |
| 21:28.44 | Arthas- | just us |
| 21:28.49 | Arthas- | they got a win |
| 21:28.55 | Vail | maybe its a hack? |
| 21:29.08 | Arthas- | when bnet dies for all euro players at the same time? hardly |
| 21:29.20 | Arthas- | ah well, time to make food :p |
| 21:29.25 | Vail | ah... maybe its blizzard .. |
| 21:29.25 | Zaraf | that Baneling Arena map sucks |
| 21:29.36 | Motive | BREAKING NEWS |
| 21:29.36 | Zaraf | why is it at the top? O_o |
| 21:29.39 | s3rius | @soundsnc you can't |
| 21:29.40 | Motive | JackOniel: i have a terrain (sadly its not my city one, that one might not be ready till 1.3 is out , but really, it might) |
| 21:29.44 | Motive | I'm now declaring a state of emergency. |
| 21:29.48 | Zaraf | it seems to me that maps with "cool names" end up getting up higher |
| 21:29.50 | azala | there is a lot of crap at the top |
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| 21:30.40 | azala | all you can do is cross your fingers and hope good stuff gets up there at the next pop restart |
| 21:36.33 | Tofu | anyone know how to change the occlusion for a unit? ie making it cause fogowar los? |
| 21:36.47 | Tofu | I found the height component |
| 21:36.59 | Tofu | but the width one? |
| 21:40.12 | Zaraf | omg does anyone know Bpayne? |
| 21:41.02 | Zaraf | he made this Golem Wars map that has messed up teams |
| 21:41.43 | Zaraf | the default settings are 4v2 O_o |
| 21:41.50 | Zaraf | and most "hosts" don't know how to change it |
| 21:43.16 | DarkRevenant | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/player-zone/map-review/9109-crc-golem-wars-classic/ |
| 21:43.22 | DarkRevenant | oh Saeris is here |
| 21:43.23 | DarkRevenant | lol |
| 21:44.02 | Saeris | sup dark |
| 21:44.04 | Saeris | oh |
| 21:44.06 | Saeris | review is done |
| 21:44.07 | Saeris | cool |
| 21:44.47 | Zaraf | I wonder if some people purposely implement an "early quit" bug into their map so that lots of people quit/join their game rapidly? |
| 21:45.04 | Zaraf | like how Income Wars had that "nuke the spawners" |
| 21:45.22 | Zaraf | and now how this Golem Wars 6 map on bnet has the stupid 4v2 team settings |
| 21:45.25 | mattavich-377 | Zaraf - That's one of the reasons I have created a map of similar concept |
| 21:45.28 | mattavich-377 | much better |
| 21:45.45 | mattavich-377 | I canty believe the low standard of maps of this type |
| 21:46.01 | mattavich-377 | You woulnd't believe how good the maps were in age of kings 2 conquerors |
| 21:46.02 | azala | didn't bnet implement a "1 unique person per hour" count to combat that? |
| 21:46.11 | mattavich-377 | a really basic editor but the quality was much better |
| 21:46.25 | Zaraf | not sure azala |
| 21:46.30 | Zaraf | cause Blizzard is stupid? |
| 21:46.41 | Zaraf | I mean, we're talking about the guys who created the Popularity system in the first place |
| 21:46.53 | Zaraf | maybe they have no sense of foresight? |
| 21:47.08 | DarkRevenant | I refuse to believe the bnet2 team is strictly blizzard |
| 21:47.17 | DarkRevenant | the xboxlive guy is in charge. |
| 21:47.19 | azala | the popularity system is part of their plan to push certain maps (premium in the future) |
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| 21:47.32 | DarkRevenant | there's better ways to push certain maps |
| 21:47.48 | Zaraf | what's that? |
| 21:47.51 | DarkRevenant | for example, even in the bnet list of wc3 or sc1 |
| 21:47.55 | azala | im saying that with a cynical tone |
| 21:48.03 | azala | as in "they did this and it's wrong" |
| 21:48.15 | DarkRevenant | all you would need to do is stick some featured maps at the top of the list at all times |
| 21:48.45 | azala | right, but the popularity thing feeds into that well, because you cant sort. |
| 21:48.49 | DarkRevenant | so when you look at the maps list, there's the usual smattering of dota and a few others, but at the top are a couple featured maps |
| 21:49.29 | azala | if people had freedom to search, their featured ones get fewer looks |
| 21:49.46 | DarkRevenant | unless the featured maps were always at the top of the list |
| 21:49.47 | azala | so i wouldnt say its the popularity per se, but the restrictive interface |
| 21:49.48 | DarkRevenant | no matter what |
| 21:50.05 | DarkRevenant | it's only 2 maps, so it wouldn't be too bad |
| 21:50.11 | azala | well, if they had a search bar, and those popular maps were there every time |
| 21:50.19 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 21:50.20 | azala | that would be glaring |
| 21:50.27 | azala | ly obvious |
| 21:50.37 | azala | it wont be just 2 maps in the future, for sure |
| 21:50.46 | DarkRevenant | we're trying to appeal to the maker of xbl here |
| 21:50.52 | Jum-Jum | seriously |
| 21:50.56 | Jum-Jum | how the fuck do you play as guest? |
| 21:50.59 | DarkRevenant | we need to be faggots to appeal to faggotry, to put it in other words |
| 21:51.04 | Jum-Jum | keeps telling me about auth and characters |
| 21:51.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~LordAbyss@uawifi-nat-210-24.arizona.edu) |
| 21:51.09 | Jum-Jum | but theres just no where to be found |
| 21:51.21 | azala | so what's "faggotry"? |
| 21:51.33 | Saeris | i appreciate the feedback darkrevenant |
| 21:52.00 | azala | im aware of what you intend, but i don't think you can chalk up the intentions to pure stupidity. they have some sort of plan, but my concern is that it's not in our interests |
| 21:52.01 | Saeris | developing golem wars classic has been rediculously difficult, to try and live up to the original |
| 21:52.47 | DarkRevenant | SC2 is a different game, so I'm sure you realize |
| 21:52.54 | DarkRevenant | that you have to take a different path for it to be as good |
| 21:53.06 | Saeris | yea i know |
| 21:53.06 | Otixa | azala, no homo >:[ |
| 21:53.20 | Jum-Jum | I hope you realize that none of the original b.net developers are still working on Blizzard |
| 21:53.20 | Otixa | slaps Saeris and DarkRevenant with a brick |
| 21:53.23 | Saeris | when i started it, i just wanted to try and make a straight up clone or the SC1 game |
| 21:53.32 | DarkRevenant | what |
| 21:53.33 | Saeris | of* |
| 21:53.37 | DarkRevenant | Otixa: that was random |
| 21:53.51 | Otixa | No, rainbow farts |
| 21:53.59 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 21:54.27 | Otixa | Now I need to decide if I'm gonna model a nextgen Selendis model or not |
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| 21:56.36 | rooj | lol rainbow farts |
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| 21:58.40 | mattavich-377 | You know what i really need, 2 monitors |
| 21:58.54 | mattavich-377 | flicking between data editor and triggers and terrain is giving me a headache |
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| 22:00.02 | rrowland | anyone in here watch WCG ultimate gamer? |
| 22:00.20 | crazyfingers | don't think so |
| 22:00.28 | azala | what's that? |
| 22:01.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster TheLaughingMan (~TheLaughi@99-71-64-200.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:01.16 | rrowland | It's a reality show thing where people play games against eachother in different genres, and someone gets elimated each week |
| 22:01.28 | TheLaughingMan | Oh why did someone get a ventrilo server |
| 22:01.47 | nicoli_s | whats it on rrowland? |
| 22:02.35 | TheLaughingMan | And I like how no one suggested Mumble |
| 22:02.36 | rrowland | thursday 11/10c on syfy |
| 22:03.05 | Otixa | TheLaughingMan, I'm on vent :D |
| 22:03.13 | Otixa | Except I'm in the AFK channel |
| 22:03.15 | TheLaughingMan | Ventrilo sucks |
| 22:03.22 | Otixa | I fear that talking to people there may cause anger |
| 22:03.24 | Otixa | ;p |
| 22:03.25 | rrowland | http://www.hulu.com/watch/62810/wcg-ultimate-gamer-kicking-and-screaming |
| 22:03.36 | TheLaughingMan | Mumble is so much better |
| 22:03.47 | rrowland | That was the first episode, this week |
| 22:03.55 | Otixa | Skype > * |
| 22:04.31 | TheLaughingMan | Plus Mumble falls under SC2Mapster ideology much better the Ventrilo |
| 22:04.35 | TheLaughingMan | or Teamspeak |
| 22:04.51 | TheLaughingMan | Plus Mumble allows for more people to be talking at one |
| 22:04.53 | TheLaughingMan | once |
| 22:04.56 | Otixa | I shall inform the care police immediately |
| 22:05.12 | Otixa | progam-mer, hi programmer! |
| 22:05.22 | Otixa | :D |
| 22:05.22 | progam-mer | hi |
| 22:05.42 | Otixa | Also, fu for telling Sixen I'm a girl >:[ |
| 22:05.55 | Otixa | I'll tell everyone to call you programmer ¬_¬ |
| 22:05.56 | progam-mer | when ? i didnt u're girl |
| 22:06.05 | Arthas- | PICS |
| 22:06.05 | progam-mer | didnt know* |
| 22:06.08 | TheLaughingMan | It also has better features, it can be integrated into SC2Mapster by allowingp people to login by using the same username/password |
| 22:06.26 | Otixa | gives Arthas- pics of his balls |
| 22:06.35 | Arthas- | awesome reason to have double monitors + highlight on girl and play SC2 on the other one |
| 22:07.14 | Otixa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS4b7KKNHDQ&feature=search |
| 22:07.16 | Otixa | Wololo |
| 22:08.50 | rrowland | There's 0% chance otixa's a girl |
| 22:08.55 | rrowland | Girls don't troll so bad |
| 22:09.01 | Otixa | ^ |
| 22:09.14 | Otixa | Also, you're a homo |
| 22:09.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster LOBSTER (18ed276b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.237.39.107) |
| 22:09.38 | LOBSTER | Hey guys guess what? |
| 22:09.43 | Otixa | Fuck you |
| 22:09.44 | LOBSTER | TGA icons are supported! |
| 22:09.53 | Otixa | Welcome to last year's news |
| 22:09.57 | rooj | otixa |
| 22:09.59 | rooj | lets have sex |
| 22:10.00 | rooj | no homo |
| 22:10.02 | LOBSTER | you don't have to use dds |
| 22:10.05 | Otixa | no, homo >:[ |
| 22:10.14 | progam-mer | the auto generated minimap is tga |
| 22:10.20 | Otixa | ^ |
| 22:10.26 | Otixa | programmer is right |
| 22:10.26 | LOBSTER | it can be set as icons as well |
| 22:10.35 | LOBSTER | its still considered a texture |
| 22:10.41 | LOBSTER | but ye |
| 22:10.56 | LOBSTER | well, thats all |
| 22:11.12 | Otixa | Helral, GTFO the vent |
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| 22:11.50 | Vail | with my mod dropping a creep tumor on the enemies mineral line so such a fun way to beat them ... |
| 22:12.42 | progam-mer | why everybody still call me grammer ? |
| 22:12.50 | Helral | meow? |
| 22:12.55 | Otixa | kicks Helral |
| 22:13.17 | Otixa | There's a Penis on vent |
| 22:13.19 | Otixa | wtf. |
| 22:14.34 | Otixa | Do not like |
| 22:14.38 | Otixa | goes back to skype |
| 22:15.44 | Vail | speak |
| 22:15.52 | Otixa | wut |
| 22:16.03 | Vail | the ticks dog was named speak |
| 22:17.16 | rooj | er |
| 22:17.20 | rooj | bnet just crashed or something |
| 22:17.31 | rooj | got kicked from game |
| 22:18.32 | rooj | yeah its down |
| 22:18.33 | rooj | 8( |
| 22:18.46 | rooj | now what will i do with my life |
| 22:18.49 | Otixa | owned :D |
| 22:18.51 | rooj | oh yeah, melee madness map |
| 22:18.58 | Vail | hmm |
| 22:19.07 | rooj | buttsexes otixa |
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| 22:29.51 | LordAbyss | ~itunes |
| 22:29.52 | purl | from memory, itunes is a badass media manager/player that lets the user make "smart" playlists, or the DRM nazi. getting out of the DRM ring, or fail |
| 22:30.16 | Nash|327 | Need some map testage :G |
| 22:30.26 | LordAbyss | what is your map |
| 22:30.31 | Nash|327 | Fringe |
| 22:31.08 | LordAbyss | eh, i kind of need to play some melee games |
| 22:31.10 | LordAbyss | im slacking |
| 22:31.48 | Nash|327 | I published an updated version and I need to know how it runs. |
| 22:32.22 | Nash|327 | Considering I don't experience any of the problems others have, it's not very useful to test it solo. |
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| 22:34.03 | rulssi-509 | Umm i have small problem with my TD, i created tower usin auto-turret and marine |
| 22:34.15 | rulssi-509 | it can only attack units infront of it :F |
| 22:34.43 | rulssi-509 | and now when i gave the tower "turnable" flag it doesnt do anything |
| 22:35.21 | rulssi-509 | is is the unit,actor or weapon i should be looking at? |
| 22:35.25 | rulssi-509 | is it* |
| 22:35.28 | rooj | ok i'm tired of making melee madness already |
| 22:38.56 | Nash|327 | madness maps? |
| 22:39.05 | Nash|327 | please, no |
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| 22:39.20 | Clord | mushroom maze |
| 22:39.22 | Clord | or whatever |
| 22:39.33 | Nash|327 | StarCraft was infested by no-talent madness maps D: |
| 22:39.37 | Clord | that weird crack map from WCIII... would probably be allowed to be published |
| 22:39.46 | Clord | it is basically |
| 22:39.50 | Clord | kids must reach to exit in maze |
| 22:39.55 | Clord | and they have took magic mushrooms |
| 22:39.59 | rulssi-509 | that one with buff the magic dragon playing on the background? |
| 22:40.18 | Clord | where is those weird running clown monsters in patrol too |
| 22:40.22 | Clord | and annoying music |
| 22:40.22 | rooj | i dont know what a madness map is |
| 22:40.26 | Clord | =) |
| 22:40.37 | rooj | all i wanted to do was give ultralisks charge and baneling suicide |
| 22:41.00 | Clord | in german version... suicide themes are censored |
| 22:41.02 | Clord | lol |
| 22:41.04 | Clord | I mean |
| 22:41.05 | Clord | generally |
| 22:41.08 | Clord | across about all games |
| 22:41.20 | rooj | what do banelings do then |
| 22:41.32 | rulssi-509 | they throw flowers around |
| 22:41.37 | rooj | i was typing that |
| 22:41.42 | Clord | for example i nthat one C&C game.... in german version they throw bomb pack and run out from map while in "real version" they blow themselves up |
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| 22:41.59 | rulssi-509 | run out of map, wth :D |
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| 22:42.14 | rulssi-509 | "my job here is done, bye" |
| 22:42.16 | Nash|327 | A madness map is a map where a trigger continually spawns some unit and you send it to attack some other guy's continually spawned unit. |
| 22:42.16 | Waterbottles | great timing |
| 22:42.19 | Clord | yes so their multiplayer is compatible with uncensored ones |
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| 23:01.41 | Thunderlord | so my "Bullet" where it lands, i want to be based off of the current camera pitch of the player |
| 23:01.56 | Thunderlord | so the higher up you look, the further the bullet will land |
| 23:02.14 | Thunderlord | i can do that with a trigger action like this |
| 23:02.17 | Otixa | MY WIFE FOR HIRE |
| 23:02.36 | HeyRevolver | silly zealots |
| 23:02.43 | Otixa | FROM THE SHADOWS I COME |
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| 23:02.58 | Otixa | I think I should go abuse vent with some voice changers :D |
| 23:03.05 | Vulfe | or maybe |
| 23:03.07 | Vulfe | you shouldn't |
| 23:03.11 | Otixa | Nowai |
| 23:03.12 | Thunderlord | my bullet lands [distance] away from the character (Character is at point1) |
| 23:03.26 | Thunderlord | Variable - Set Distance = (Distance between Point 1 and (Point 1 offset by (Clamp (((Tan((Current camera pitch of player 1))) ^ -1.0) * ((Camera 001 Height Offset) + 0.0)) between 1.0 and 25.0) towards 0.0 degrees)) |
| 23:03.49 | Thunderlord | only problem is |
| 23:03.59 | Thunderlord | whenever you are shooting up or down a hill |
| 23:05.08 | Thunderlord | i need to componsate for the differance in heigth |
| 23:06.11 | Thunderlord | i made a trigger to try and do that but it is not working http://pastebin.com/M56gWM6x it has me super duper confused as to why |
| 23:11.55 | mattavich-377 | Hey - Howcome when i copy a behavior with new actors the old actor is still there? |
| 23:12.15 | mattavich-377 | The events+ dont see to point to the actor of the behavior i copied |
| 23:12.18 | mattavich-377 | but its still there |
| 23:12.20 | mattavich-377 | i dont get it |
| 23:14.49 | mattavich-377 | i hink i found the problem, some events didnt change |
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| 23:26.44 | Thunderlord | Hey rrowland |
| 23:27.06 | Thunderlord | you there? |
| 23:27.55 | Xackery | Use the force! |
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| 23:32.01 | AsaPhelps | does it matter if a unit is a structure or a unit for purposes of a tower |
| 23:35.41 | mattavich | hmm |
| 23:35.51 | mattavich | depends if that tower will be attacked |
| 23:36.14 | mattavich | Structure is a unit with a flag that just says structure |
| 23:36.33 | mattavich | some untis good vs structures |
| 23:36.40 | mattavich | i dont think it matters in function |
| 23:36.52 | mattavich | but im not an expert |
| 23:37.09 | AsaPhelps | well for building towers |
| 23:37.18 | AsaPhelps | if you make it a unit with speed 0, its basically the same thing right? |
| 23:38.34 | mattavich | yeah but with Units - flags = strucutre |
| 23:39.01 | mattavich | Like, i believe that damage types and types of units like bio, structure, armoured are all basically the same |
| 23:39.05 | mattavich | just strongs |
| 23:39.09 | mattavich | strings* |
| 23:39.16 | mattavich | for "types" |
| 23:40.12 | rulssi | http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/ne/skynews/20100825/07/4022068537-pizza-burger-2-500-calorie-fat-bomb.jpg :F |
| 23:40.15 | rulssi | HUNGRY! |
| 23:40.26 | mattavich | Hey rulssi |
| 23:40.28 | Fromethius | anyone online NA want to play island defense? the lobby is almost filled |
| 23:40.34 | rrowland | disgusting |
| 23:40.37 | rulssi | mattavich: hey |
| 23:40.40 | mattavich | EU sorry |
| 23:40.53 | mattavich | Just updating my map with some things |
| 23:41.10 | mattavich | Did you have any other comments or suggestions? |
| 23:41.50 | rulssi | hmm |
| 23:42.17 | rulssi | cant think of any, it was pretty balanced map already imo |
| 23:42.37 | Hjalte | You can't choose to view only custom games any more when selecting to Join Game? |
| 23:42.37 | mattavich | I just balanced the razing units a little more |
| 23:42.49 | mattavich | dont think so, i ahd same problem today |
| 23:43.13 | mattavich | Rulssi, what's the coolest thing you've seen recently about custom maps? |
| 23:43.27 | mattavich | a unit, an idea, a concept, an ability? |
| 23:43.28 | mattavich | anything |
| 23:44.06 | rulssi | well that circle hero selection is awesome |
| 23:44.15 | rulssi | dont know really.. |
| 23:44.33 | mattavich | I feel like i need to add something special to the map |
| 23:44.37 | mattavich | something more interesting |
| 23:44.43 | Vulfe | Maybe it needs |
| 23:44.45 | Vulfe | good terrain? |
| 23:44.46 | rulssi | loved that thing in overrun when you put medics inside a bunker they heal the bunker when they shoot :p |
| 23:44.46 | Vulfe | :O |
| 23:45.19 | mattavich | hmm |
| 23:45.36 | mattavich | already got an observer that heals |
| 23:45.45 | mattavich | what is so good about DOTA? |
| 23:46.10 | rulssi | 80 heroes? about 100 items |
| 23:46.14 | rulssi | it has tons of content |
| 23:46.27 | mattavich | im scared if i add too much content it becomes confusing fast |
| 23:46.35 | Vulfe | DotA is confusing |
| 23:46.36 | mattavich | i realised people enjoy the hero aspect of my map |
| 23:46.47 | rulssi | yeah but it needs something |
| 23:46.57 | mattavich | but im scared of making it hero based. It's based on unit spawns that get better by the kills you have |
| 23:47.18 | Vulfe | A game needs enough content to have a large range of strategies for consideration |
| 23:47.23 | mattavich | definately |
| 23:47.32 | mattavich | that's my aim, to make it so strategy wins |
| 23:47.34 | mattavich | micromanagement |
| 23:48.13 | mattavich | hmmm |
| 23:48.30 | mattavich | Maybe I should create a proper levelign system for heros |
| 23:49.11 | mattavich | or not - it's about keeping heros alive with the bonus they have |
| 23:49.14 | mattavich | sorry for ramblings |
| 23:49.37 | rulssi | give them some auras to increase atk speed or armor on your units |
| 23:49.57 | rulssi | like defensive and aggressive modes |
| 23:50.02 | rulssi | you can choose bonus armor or attack speed |
| 23:50.11 | mattavich | I DO have that kind fo stuff. All abilities icnrease in damage, you get armour att and HP in various ways but it's not "level" based. I just add the stats |
| 23:50.21 | rulssi | ah |
| 23:50.36 | mattavich | i think its not something users are used to |
| 23:51.05 | mattavich | I think maybe creating some ability points that can be used at the obelisk to spec a hero would be good though |
| 23:51.39 | mattavich | i will have a think. it's not really that type of map you see |
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| 23:54.07 | Xackery | Where do I get the little logo to put on my loading screen to say "sc2mapster" ? |
| 23:54.07 | ZarafFaraz | Anyone know a good way to add spidermine charges to my unit? |
| 23:54.22 | DarkRevenant | via triggers? |
| 23:54.23 | mattavich | copy the ability over./ |
| 23:54.24 | Xackery | Good way or a working way, Zaraf? |
| 23:54.25 | Xackery | XD |
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| 23:55.06 | ZarafFaraz | via triggers |
| 23:55.11 | SD|GhosT | Hey guys, probobly me being stupid, but an idea why my AI works in Test Document but doesnt do squat when I try the published version? |
| 23:55.18 | rrowland | add charges |
| 23:55.21 | Xackery | set a custom value on the units to track the number of charges, and use catalog set maximum charges to show how many are on it |
| 23:55.22 | antares- | through data editor it's pretty easy, just add charges to the cost of the ability/whatever, then if you want to have something to replenishes charges use modify unit effect |
| 23:55.27 | ZarafFaraz | I thought the add charges function would work but that like charges used or something stupid |
| 23:56.16 | Vulfe | btw: players like games that involve spontaneous qualitative change; quantitative change generally means little |
| 23:56.17 | Xackery | or try ant's route. *shrugs*. Many ways to skin a cat |
| 23:56.19 | Vulfe | which is why most TDs suck |
| 23:56.58 | Xackery | most TD's suck since they are based on a model that's been around for over 10 years. XD |
| 23:57.20 | Vulfe | that model promotes strictly quantitative change and 3 boring kinds of towers |
| 23:57.21 | Vulfe | so yes |
| 23:57.33 | Xackery | Did you play my map vulfe? |
| 23:57.35 | rulssi | http://rulssi.kapsi.fi/map.JPG phew :F |
| 23:57.40 | Vulfe | not recently, Xackery |
| 23:57.45 | Vulfe | but I have schoolwork to do today anyway |
| 23:57.52 | Vulfe | so I probably don't have time |
| 23:57.57 | Xackery | I mean, what kind of changes is that catagorized? |
| 23:58.06 | Xackery | qualitative or quantative? |
| 23:58.10 | Xackery | XD |
| 23:58.56 | AsaPhelps | yeah old models suck |
| 23:59.07 | AsaPhelps | *Changes the model of his hydralisk tower to a baseball bat* |
| 23:59.14 | ZarafFaraz | rulssi that looks like a td I played on WC3 |
| 23:59.20 | rulssi | it is |
| 23:59.23 | rulssi | burbenog td |
| 23:59.26 | ZarafFaraz | yeah |
| 23:59.28 | Trager|546|US | did anyone ever play Shopping Maul for WC3? |
| 23:59.35 | rulssi | oh god all the mauls |
| 23:59.36 | ZarafFaraz | did you make burbenog td? |
| 23:59.43 | rulssi | no |
| 23:59.45 | Vulfe | Wintermaul was fun |
| 23:59.47 | Vulfe | the rest sucked |
| 23:59.54 | Vulfe | imo |
| 23:59.59 | rrowland | The best TDs were the solo TDs |
