| 00:00.00 | Xaragoth | assign it directly after the spawn |
| 00:00.12 | Nash|327 | set variable |
| 00:00.26 | Cobellanez | Plague cloud caused a debuff that did 1 damage per second to any enemy affected by it |
| 00:01.14 | Nash|327 | "1 dps when you stand on it" would have been a much simpler answer |
| 00:01.16 | nitroball | Yes! Finally got my first fully custom unit in game with working animations. |
| 00:01.17 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 00:01.37 | Cobellanez | I'm not simple :o |
| 00:01.38 | Vail | but the way i have mine set up all creep producing units and strutcures have a aura ability that places a debuff on enemy units and that debuff deals damage over time as long as the unit is on cn creep |
| 00:02.00 | Cobellanez | Yeah that |
| 00:02.30 | Vail | and they remove the debuff on allied units so that allies dont take damage from allied creep |
| 00:02.41 | Cobellanez | I just want it to do 1 dps to non friendly/nuetral units |
| 00:03.08 | Vail | do you want it to last longer than the creep producing unit being alive? |
| 00:03.23 | Cobellanez | I want Creep to do the damage |
| 00:03.43 | Vail | saddy thats not possible in this version maybe in the expansion |
| 00:03.50 | Cobellanez | Like sneaking a Creep tumor into someones base |
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| 00:04.15 | Cobellanez | And then their workers be all like WTF and then they die |
| 00:04.23 | Cobellanez | THAT YO |
| 00:05.01 | Cobellanez | I mean, Creep has a speed modifier for zerg units, you would think there would be a value you could add somewhere to do damage |
| 00:05.03 | Vail | you can give creep producing strutcures the an AOE damage buff but that will end when the structure dies |
| 00:05.39 | Cobellanez | Till I could advance that, I can live with an aoe ability |
| 00:05.54 | Xaragoth | i don't know if its inside ... but don't zerg regenerate faster on creep too? or was that just some stuff they thought of and removes it? |
| 00:05.58 | Xaragoth | -s+d |
| 00:06.12 | Cobellanez | Don't think its there |
| 00:06.17 | Cobellanez | Didn't see it |
| 00:06.23 | Xaragoth | hrm, yeah, well |
| 00:06.34 | Xaragoth | you could've just set that to -1, thats why |
| 00:06.35 | Vail | i dont know if the regen faster i dont think they do but i know there is a speed boost for them on creep |
| 00:06.36 | Xaragoth | easy way |
| 00:06.42 | Cobellanez | When I first started playing I assumed that Creep was basically, Blight |
| 00:07.03 | Cobellanez | Its just a weaker version of it |
| 00:07.43 | Nash|327 | This is not Warcraft in space! |
| 00:08.00 | Cobellanez | Yeah it is |
| 00:08.10 | Nash|327 | Artanis says no |
| 00:08.23 | Cobellanez | Its also done on ice skates |
| 00:10.20 | Vail | http://www.mediafire.com/?fn8s9h37yn413cc |
| 00:10.56 | Vail | http://www.mediafire.com/?habzl7lpradw5wg |
| 00:11.11 | Vail | there are my mod and test map for my damage on creep |
| 00:12.17 | Klonkq | Im not getting the levels working for this behaviour ability |
| 00:12.57 | Klonkq | first level gives the first behaviour, but second level does not change anything |
| 00:13.28 | Cobellanez | But doesn't that only affect Zerg units? |
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| 00:13.40 | Klonkq | Do i have to make separate abilities for each level of the ability linking to a different behaviour? |
| 00:14.09 | Vail | doesnt what only effect zerg? |
| 00:14.15 | Cobellanez | The Creep |
| 00:14.27 | Cobellanez | Under behaviors its all under Zerg |
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| 00:15.18 | Klonkq | anyone? |
| 00:15.23 | Vail | the damage effects all units not allied to the player who owns the creep producing units |
| 00:15.31 | Vail | zerg included |
| 00:16.18 | Cobellanez | Where are the perameters for those that are affected? |
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| 00:16.48 | Vail | in the search effects |
| 00:17.13 | pinzu | hmm |
| 00:17.20 | pinzu | a function can not be called through an action? |
| 00:17.55 | rrowland | functions return values |
| 00:18.06 | rrowland | they have to be called from something that expects a value |
| 00:18.10 | pinzu | so I cant make a function create a unit and return the unit value |
| 00:18.10 | rrowland | like an if of a set variable |
| 00:18.19 | rrowland | yes you can |
| 00:18.24 | pinzu | lastcreatedunit* |
| 00:18.25 | rrowland | unit value = getunitvaluefunction() |
| 00:20.03 | Klonkq | Anyone able to help? |
| 00:20.29 | Cobellanez | Damnit I'm lost |
| 00:20.36 | rrowland | missed your question |
| 00:21.42 | Klonkq | I have a simple ability with 5 levels that should give a simple behaviour on level 1, and then more powerful ones on the other levles |
| 00:21.56 | Klonkq | im only getting the first one to apply |
| 00:22.09 | Xackery | I need to find that WC3 example on sC2, Klonkq |
| 00:22.15 | Xackery | you and AsaPhelps would both love it if I did |
| 00:22.24 | rrowland | how did you plug a behavior into an ability? |
| 00:22.35 | Klonkq | i have a ability that behaviour type |
| 00:22.41 | Klonkq | and linked them from ther |
| 00:22.49 | Klonkq | thats* |
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| 00:23.07 | rrowland | what |
| 00:23.08 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 00:23.10 | Vail | how can i help Cobellanez? |
| 00:23.12 | rrowland | behaviors aren't abilities |
| 00:23.16 | Nash|327 | automatic level up is so much easier :P |
| 00:23.22 | Klonkq | ok i created a new ability |
| 00:23.36 | Xackery | Abilities can apply a behavior, rrowland, but that's only good if you want a toggle-able behavior |
| 00:23.36 | Klonkq | the ability type is behaviour |
| 00:23.50 | rrowland | k |
| 00:24.08 | Nash|327 | Apply Behavior |
| 00:24.20 | Xackery | There's literally an Ability type called "Behavior" |
| 00:24.30 | rrowland | yeah im looking at it |
| 00:24.40 | Nash|327 | oh |
| 00:24.54 | Vulfe | You can also just do what Blizzard does and make it a passive |
| 00:24.59 | Vulfe | since you're cool |
| 00:25.01 | Xackery | It's only good for toggle-able skills, though.. E.g. Wraith's cloaking field uses it |
| 00:25.11 | Nash|327 | Attributes ftw |
| 00:25.25 | Vulfe | You can apply behaviors via an instant effect too |
| 00:25.31 | Xackery | Indeed. |
| 00:25.32 | rrowland | So I have a unit that I want to resurrect without player input |
| 00:25.48 | rrowland | I know there's a new revive ability but it doesn't seem to work from triggers |
| 00:26.02 | Vulfe | kick its ass |
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| 00:26.05 | Klonkq | I can make the ability an "effect instant" ? |
| 00:26.08 | Xackery | With a 5 level behavior system, especially a permanent passive behavior, I personally created requirements on top of the behaviors that checks the level of a dummy ability I made that you level up. |
| 00:26.26 | Vulfe | That's what I'd do, Xack |
| 00:26.29 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 00:26.31 | Klonkq | i find the requirements to be quite a mess |
| 00:26.35 | Vulfe | Meh |
| 00:26.39 | Vulfe | just be a baller and use the nodes |
| 00:26.43 | Vulfe | since you're cool like that |
| 00:26.46 | Klonkq | im not |
| 00:26.50 | Klonkq | cool |
| 00:26.51 | Klonkq | at all |
| 00:26.53 | Nash|327 | can't you add attributes? |
| 00:26.56 | Nash|327 | they stack |
| 00:26.59 | Xackery | CountAbil(<id>,CompleteOnlyAtUnit)[TechTreeCheat] == <Level> |
| 00:27.09 | rrowland | Since my map is very linear and not so dynamic, I placed the 2 units on the map and reference them specifically to make the triggers more efficient (You can't reference a variable in an event). |
| 00:27.29 | rrowland | So if possible I'd like to be able to revive the unit |
| 00:27.56 | Klonkq | attributes are possible i guess |
| 00:28.01 | Xackery | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/6998-how-to-create-a-cannibalize-ability/ scroll to bottom I wrote a hack job resurrect system |
| 00:28.18 | Klonkq | i already do have attributes for my heroes |
| 00:28.26 | Nash|327 | custom script ReviveUnit() I read somewhere on forum |
| 00:28.37 | Vail | what is who trying to do? |
| 00:28.37 | rrowland | I haven't checked it out yet but just to be clear I don't want user input to revive, I want it to wait like 3 seconds or so and revive itself through triggers |
| 00:28.58 | Xackery | then write the trigger, rrowland. |
| 00:28.59 | Xackery | *shrugs* |
| 00:29.09 | Klonkq | rrowland wait |
| 00:29.11 | rrowland | I tried, it doesn't seem to work |
| 00:29.12 | Klonkq | i have a tutorial for that |
| 00:29.16 | Klonkq | sec |
| 00:29.17 | Vail | with behavoirs and the behavoir ability |
| 00:29.22 | rrowland | I had to put the resurrection on some hidden structure |
| 00:29.37 | rrowland | Then I tried to tell it to cast it, it doesn't even take a target |
| 00:29.42 | rrowland | So I don't understand how the ability works |
| 00:29.44 | Klonkq | http://www.youtube.com/user/OneTwoSC#p/c/165B3EF3942D1179/0/kEdOqHbborI |
| 00:30.24 | Klonkq | vail |
| 00:30.29 | Klonkq | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.44 | Vail | ok |
| 00:30.46 | Klonkq | apparently i did it wrong when i set the type of the ability to behaviour |
| 00:31.10 | Xackery | I should release a map with how I did it at some point |
| 00:31.17 | Xackery | too lazy though |
| 00:31.32 | Klonkq | i thought it would work like the other abilities where you can add different effects and it will pick the next one for the next level |
| 00:31.59 | AsaPhelps | what did you do this time xack? |
| 00:32.10 | Xackery | he's ironically asking the same Q as you AsaPhelps |
| 00:32.11 | Cobellanez | Ok, somehow I have made it so eveything but the Drone, Overlord, Spawning pool, Hatchery, and Extractor, requires an Evolution chamber. That's all fine and good, except that the evolution chamber needs an evolution chamber, an I can't seem to find where I changed something that would do that. |
| 00:32.19 | Xackery | about leveled permanent behavioral passive auras |
| 00:32.36 | AsaPhelps | i did mine differently than you did sorta |
| 00:32.42 | AsaPhelps | my way is probably even more complex |
| 00:32.45 | Xackery | that's fine |
| 00:32.50 | Xackery | but he still asked the same Q |
| 00:32.50 | Xackery | :P |
| 00:32.54 | Vail | Cobellanez: cant help you there |
| 00:32.59 | Cobellanez | D: |
| 00:33.11 | Cobellanez | I don't remember how I did it is the annoying part :s |
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| 00:33.25 | AsaPhelps | okay so what do you guys think of this layout for a td? maybe 4-8 players |
| 00:33.27 | AsaPhelps | http://i37.tinypic.com/mm8jh4.png |
| 00:33.28 | Vail | i thought thts how the ability worked Klonkq |
| 00:33.34 | AsaPhelps | will only 2 spawns make it too boring? |
| 00:33.48 | Xackery | looks like a lot of corners to put AoE turrets |
| 00:33.50 | Klonkq | well in the behaviour field i have the different levels of the passive behaviour i want |
| 00:33.57 | Klonkq | but its not applying anything but the first one |
| 00:34.06 | AsaPhelps | i like corners |
| 00:34.15 | Klonkq | and when i level it up, the other abilities say like [Level 2] but this one does not |
| 00:34.35 | Vail | hm |
| 00:34.46 | AsaPhelps | what I did was make the ability an instant effect |
| 00:34.46 | Xackery | lol |
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| 00:34.49 | AsaPhelps | with autocast and autocast on |
| 00:34.56 | AsaPhelps | and the effect was apply behavior |
| 00:34.59 | AsaPhelps | which was the passive |
| 00:35.06 | Xackery | haha Asa, nifty |
| 00:35.08 | Tordecybombo | ok |
| 00:35.21 | Xackery | made it transient too I imagine? |
| 00:35.29 | pinzu | can I make |
| 00:35.34 | Xackery | What if you force attack, does the behavior poof? |
| 00:35.39 | AsaPhelps | oh that reminds me |
| 00:35.42 | Tordecybombo | what does transient do again |
| 00:35.51 | AsaPhelps | i wanted to tell eck to make all the things in his map transient when you learn |
| 00:35.56 | Vulfe | Effect Instant usually cancels abilities |
| 00:35.56 | Vulfe | hmm |
| 00:35.59 | AsaPhelps | i hate learning an ability and stopping, so annoying |
| 00:36.01 | pinzu | can I improve effects damage through triggers? |
| 00:36.03 | Vulfe | cancels orders rather |
| 00:36.15 | pinzu | and decrease* |
| 00:36.18 | Vulfe | Effect Instant shouldn't count as an order |
| 00:36.21 | Vulfe | it should like |
| 00:36.23 | Vulfe | insert x.x |
| 00:36.27 | Vulfe | between orders |
| 00:36.27 | Vulfe | :D |
| 00:36.45 | Vulfe | as in, it should basically re-order you to do whatever you were doing |
| 00:36.50 | Vulfe | you might be able to do that with triggers |
| 00:36.50 | Vulfe | idk |
| 00:36.58 | Vail | did you want the behavoir to be constent or activated Klonkq? |
| 00:37.05 | Klonkq | passive |
| 00:37.13 | Klonkq | its basically a shield bonus |
| 00:37.18 | Xackery | Ooh. I should ask this. |
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| 00:37.21 | AsaPhelps | well i like my way |
| 00:37.26 | AsaPhelps | you have a passive |
| 00:37.27 | Vail | then you dont want the Behavoir ability.. |
| 00:37.27 | Vulfe | I can answer any question |
| 00:37.29 | Xackery | Anyone good at english. Like, translating ability buttons in lamen terms? |
| 00:37.31 | Vulfe | as long as it pertains to doodads |
| 00:37.39 | Vulfe | I'm good at english |
| 00:37.42 | Vulfe | I'm a total grammar nazi |
| 00:37.45 | Vulfe | and spelling too |
| 00:37.46 | Vulfe | yaaay |
| 00:37.52 | Xackery | I tend to write what an ability does, and I get way too technical |
| 00:38.06 | AsaPhelps | anyone not busy want to look at my terrible abilities map I just want to see if there's any buttons that don't apepear correctly |
| 00:38.16 | AsaPhelps | apepear |
| 00:38.19 | Vail | you may just want to give the beahviors to the unit and then use validators on them |
| 00:38.19 | Xackery | Such as: Coats Zeratul with a void sphere which attaches to the next attacker who attacks him, dealing Effect,VoidShieldLv1,Amount damage every half a second for Behavior,VoidShieldLv1,Duration seconds. The release of the sphere also blinks Zeratul to a random location. |
| 00:38.30 | rrowland | wow I was using the ability, I didn't even know there was a function to just freakin revive a unit |
| 00:38.33 | rrowland | So easy |
| 00:38.35 | AsaPhelps | tldr: makes zertaul move |
| 00:38.40 | Cobellanez | I guess what I did was make it so everything that requires a spawning pool, requries an evolution chamber also |
| 00:38.41 | Vulfe | "Creates a wall of flames with average temperature 300 C and 500 units in width, 100 units in length, dealing 50 damage/s/s to all enemies inside |
| 00:38.41 | Vulfe | " |
| 00:38.43 | Vulfe | XD |
| 00:38.50 | AsaPhelps | burns enemies |
| 00:38.50 | Xackery | Oh shit, my fire wall Vulfe |
| 00:38.51 | Cobellanez | But I can't FIND where I did that |
| 00:38.56 | Xackery | that one is scary to read |
| 00:39.00 | Vulfe | If those are the dimensions |
| 00:39.01 | Vulfe | I win |
| 00:39.03 | Xackery | Creates a line of fire that lasts Effect,FireWallPersistentLv1,PeriodCount seconds. Enemies who stand on the fire gain the on fire status, dealing Effect,FireWallDamageLv1,Amount burning damage every 0.5 seconds for Behavior,OnFireLv1,Duration seconds. This status can stack up to Behavior,OnFireLv1,MaxStackCount times. |
| 00:39.12 | AsaPhelps | burns enemies |
| 00:39.15 | AsaPhelps | thats all you need |
| 00:39.17 | Vulfe | Just say that it burns enemies and kills them |
| 00:39.25 | Xackery | It is the burninator skill |
| 00:39.25 | Xackery | lol |
| 00:39.26 | Vulfe | Then put flavor text with stats |
| 00:39.35 | AsaPhelps | insert pictures of pe ople on fire |
| 00:39.42 | Cobellanez | NNGGGG |
| 00:39.44 | Xackery | haha I actually have a fire icon! |
| 00:39.44 | AsaPhelps | "this is what it does" |
| 00:39.50 | Xackery | hrm |
| 00:39.57 | Xackery | What about when you level it up? |
| 00:40.12 | Xackery | right now it's SCARY to read the level up text. |
| 00:40.15 | AsaPhelps | http://www.prostunts.net/gallery/pics/FireWalk.jpg |
| 00:40.20 | Klonkq | problem is i have no idea how to use a validator |
| 00:40.27 | Xackery | Creates a line of fire for a duration, causing units who enter it to gain on fire status, dealing damage every 0.5 seconds. Level 1 - Effect,FireWallPersistentLv1,PeriodCount second duration, Effect,FireWallDamageLv1,Amount damage over 0.5 seconds, Behavior,OnFireLv1,MaxStackCount stacks. Level 2 - Effect,FireWallPersistentLv2,PeriodCount second duration, Effect,FireWallDamageLv2,Amount damage over 0.5 seconds, Behavior,OnFireLv2,MaxStac |
| 00:40.29 | Xackery | hahaha. |
| 00:40.33 | Vail | ok i can help you with that |
| 00:40.59 | Xackery | nice pic Asa |
| 00:40.59 | Vulfe | Nobody needs to know that it makes a behavior, Xackery |
| 00:41.00 | Xackery | lol |
| 00:41.02 | Nash|327 | next attacker who attacks him D_D |
| 00:41.13 | Vulfe | l2wc3 xack |
| 00:41.18 | Tordecybombo | does the localizer work on protected maps |
| 00:41.19 | Tordecybombo | ? |
| 00:41.22 | AsaPhelps | google images for man on fire are terrible |
| 00:41.23 | Vulfe | really unspecific tooltips that don't relate to mechanics |
| 00:41.28 | AsaPhelps | spock, firemen, |
| 00:41.30 | Xackery | lol |
| 00:41.35 | AsaPhelps | some kid smiling |
| 00:41.36 | Cobellanez | Damn requirements... |
| 00:41.40 | AsaPhelps | OH OH |
| 00:41.41 | AsaPhelps | Xack |
| 00:41.50 | Xackery | I want to put a picture of Trogdor. |
| 00:41.52 | Tordecybombo | YOU HAD |
| 00:41.53 | AsaPhelps | http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/jimbo056/helpimonfire.jpg |
| 00:41.53 | Tordecybombo | MORE TIME |
| 00:41.54 | Tordecybombo | I WISH |
| 00:42.06 | Xackery | http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tk_hXQ6jEbRJBM:http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/trogdor.gif&t=1 <http://t1.gstatic.com/http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tk_hXQ6jEbRJBM:http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/trogdor.gif&t=1 |
| 00:42.08 | Xackery | There. That's all you need |
| 00:42.13 | Cobellanez | Fuck ebaums |
| 00:42.13 | AsaPhelps | look at mine |
| 00:42.21 | Xackery | hahaha |
| 00:42.23 | Xackery | Nice. |
| 00:42.28 | Tordecybombo | can you use the localizer on protected maps? |
| 00:42.36 | Vulfe | Xackery: You should make Trogdor appear on the ground when you use the fire wall skill |
| 00:42.37 | Vulfe | XD |
| 00:42.53 | Xackery | Or I could do the yell, "TROGdOOOOOOR" whenever you cast it. |
| 00:42.56 | AsaPhelps | import a wow dragon model |
| 00:42.57 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 00:43.13 | Vulfe | Karass becomes a dragon while he casts it |
| 00:43.13 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:43.16 | Xackery | I wonder if that's copyrighted. |
| 00:43.22 | Xackery | Trogdor that is |
| 00:43.24 | Vulfe | good question |
| 00:43.29 | Vulfe | i have no idea |
| 00:43.37 | Vulfe | http://i36.tinypic.com/4qr2ps.jpg |
| 00:43.38 | Vulfe | btw |
| 00:43.45 | Vulfe | I have no idea what that links to, but it's probably mine |
| 00:43.50 | Vulfe | thought someone here might care |
| 00:43.55 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 00:44.01 | Nash|327 | I must sleep! |
| 00:44.07 | Tordecybombo | how'd you get it to look so good! :o |
| 00:44.08 | Xackery | I want my Raynor defense upper platform to look like that |
| 00:44.20 | Vulfe | Xackery: That can be arranged |
| 00:44.25 | Vail | saddly i dont think there is a validator that will help.. |
| 00:44.32 | Vulfe | buahahahhhhahaaa |
| 00:44.44 | Xackery | Vulfe: except.. I'm not sure I want to give you my map.. it has so much work on it. XD |
| 00:44.53 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:44.56 | Xackery | like |
| 00:45.01 | Xackery | you have no idea how much work is on that stupid map |
| 00:45.03 | Vulfe | So much work on it? What does htat mean x.x |
| 00:45.13 | Cobellanez | What are all the places you could edit the requirements to train or build something? |
| 00:45.28 | Xackery | 6k+ lines of script, ~400 added effects, etc etc |
| 00:46.07 | Xackery | However! |
| 00:46.14 | Xackery | I want to totally do the whole line-texture |
| 00:46.18 | Cobellanez | D: |
| 00:46.21 | Xackery | Where'd you find that. |
| 00:46.27 | Tordecybombo | can you publish protected maps that were pulled from the cache? |
| 00:46.32 | Tordecybombo | can you localize them |
| 00:46.33 | Tordecybombo | i mean |
| 00:46.48 | Xackery | guessing you merged multiple textures |
| 00:46.58 | Xackery | or are those doodads? |
| 00:47.01 | Tordecybombo | no way of telling until I do so :o |
| 00:47.06 | Vulfe | Xackery: Lol |
| 00:47.08 | Vulfe | L2p |
| 00:47.12 | Cobellanez | :( |
| 00:47.15 | Lilianna | fires up the editor |
| 00:47.16 | Vulfe | Decal doodad, variation 4 |
| 00:47.17 | Xackery | I don't speak noob |
| 00:47.19 | Vulfe | it will save your life |
| 00:47.20 | Vulfe | :P |
| 00:47.21 | Lilianna | Lets see if I can implement my genius idea! |
| 00:47.26 | Xackery | l2p |
| 00:47.36 | Vulfe | ouch |
| 00:47.37 | Vulfe | well |
| 00:47.38 | Xackery | I don't sit around drawing stuff |
| 00:47.43 | Vulfe | Neither do I |
| 00:47.45 | Vulfe | I just place doodads |
| 00:47.50 | Vulfe | B) |
| 00:48.09 | Cobellanez | Are you there Fromethius? |
| 00:48.24 | Xackery | decal doodad is the numbers, right? |
| 00:48.36 | Xackery | I meant more that uh |
| 00:48.43 | Xackery | oh, wait. |
| 00:48.45 | Xackery | I see now. |
| 00:48.58 | Xackery | sexy |
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| 00:49.05 | Xackery | guess i'll sit around making textures today. Thanks Vulfe. |
| 00:49.14 | Vulfe | Lol |
| 00:49.18 | Vulfe | Yeah |
| 00:49.19 | Vulfe | Well |
| 00:49.24 | Vulfe | Doodads are mostly about creativity |
| 00:49.29 | Vulfe | basically, how you can use them |
| 00:49.34 | Vulfe | when you're not supposed to use them that way |
| 00:50.55 | Xackery | sigh this will take me a while |
| 00:50.56 | Xackery | XD |
| 00:52.52 | Vulfe | Lol |
| 00:53.01 | Vulfe | I'm sad that lights don't work with custom colors |
| 00:53.02 | Vulfe | : ( |
| 00:53.05 | Lilianna | Wheres the info I need to know for making a button texture? |
| 00:53.06 | Vulfe | I have to mix the ones that they have |
| 00:53.16 | Vulfe | like making one by hand? |
| 00:53.19 | Xackery | 23 to 27, /4, is 1 |
| 00:53.35 | Lilianna | Vulfe, nah, I just want to export the move buttona nd rotate it |
| 00:53.39 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:53.44 | Vulfe | I see |
| 00:53.49 | Lilianna | I want up down left and right |
| 00:53.51 | Lilianna | >.> |
| 00:53.51 | Vulfe | Use GIMP |
| 00:53.54 | Vulfe | DDS Format |
| 00:54.07 | Vulfe | at all |
| 00:54.08 | Vulfe | Do you have knowledge of textures? |
| 00:54.09 | Vulfe | lol |
| 00:54.19 | Lilianna | Ive messed with DDS textures |
| 00:54.19 | Vulfe | (SC2 buttons are lower res than wc3 buttons, wtf) |
| 00:54.34 | Vulfe | I used to make buttons for wc3 |
| 00:54.37 | Vulfe | pixel by pixel |
| 00:54.38 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 00:55.11 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 00:55.13 | Vulfe | Well.... |
| 00:55.18 | Vulfe | If you have GIMP |
| 00:55.24 | Vulfe | you can just select the entire thing and rotate it |
| 00:55.25 | rooj | you make my pixels hard |
| 00:55.26 | Vulfe | x.x |
| 00:55.36 | Vulfe | I want to pixelate youi |
| 00:55.39 | Vulfe | all night long |
| 00:55.40 | rooj | hot |
| 00:55.47 | rooj | typical day: |
| 00:55.53 | rooj | open my map for 5 minutes |
| 00:55.55 | rooj | close my map |
| 00:56.03 | rooj | play starcraft 2 |
| 00:56.12 | rooj | today has been a typical day |
| 00:56.27 | rooj | i wonder what kind of day it would be if i actually got work done on my map |
| 00:56.40 | Xaragoth | you can figure out |
| 00:56.43 | Xaragoth | at least EU bnet is down now |
| 00:56.44 | Xaragoth | :P |
| 00:56.59 | Xaragoth | +it |
| 00:57.18 | rooj | you guys always say EU bnet is down |
| 00:57.22 | rooj | that must be annoying |
| 00:57.43 | Xaragoth | service update is being released |
| 00:57.46 | rooj | ive seen US bnet down only once @_@ |
| 00:57.58 | Xaragoth | actually, its like 2 am over here |
| 00:58.03 | Xaragoth | so, yeah, nobody would notice |
| 00:58.03 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
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| 00:59.02 | Tordecybombo | blizzard!!!! |
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| 01:00.37 | Vulfe | So I hear people with X-names think they're all that |
| 01:00.39 | Vulfe | :O |
| 01:02.41 | wOlfLinG | So, is there any way to tell what array number something is with variables? |
| 01:03.14 | wOlfLinG | For instance i have something that i want to change the text on it depending on the last clicked dialog item, and they are both arrays |
| 01:03.49 | wOlfLinG | So Button[0] sets it to Label_Text[0], button[1] sets it to Label_Text[1] etc |
| 01:04.15 | wOlfLinG | without having lots of 'if then elses' or switch cases because there may be up to 100 of them -.- |
| 01:04.43 | rooj | what is a doodad footprint? |
| 01:05.25 | rooj | actually |
| 01:05.35 | rooj | what i need to know is how to make it so you cant walk thru my doodads, lol |
| 01:06.15 | wOlfLinG | collossion fields |
| 01:06.22 | wOlfLinG | and that is spelt terribly D: |
| 01:07.05 | Tordecybombo | HEEEEEH!!? |
| 01:07.09 | Vulfe | Okay |
| 01:07.11 | Vulfe | I am awesome |
| 01:07.13 | Vulfe | 1 second |
| 01:07.18 | wOlfLinG | a) Add pathing blockers beneath it, b) Edit the doodads hitty fields (really can't spell collision :( ) |
| 01:07.34 | rooj | that sounds |
| 01:07.37 | rooj | extremely |
| 01:07.40 | rooj | not fun |
| 01:07.43 | rooj | >8| |
| 01:07.44 | wOlfLinG | Also, PING! to anyone that is good with arrays, switch cases and functions |
| 01:07.57 | wOlfLinG | rooj... ya, thats terraining and data for you :P |
| 01:08.07 | rooj | was it that hard to just add a checkbox |
| 01:08.14 | rooj | "CANNOT WALK THRU THIS GIANT OBJECT" |
| 01:08.20 | wOlfLinG | There is D: |
| 01:08.35 | wOlfLinG | it's 'Cannot be walked through by ground units' |
| 01:08.41 | wOlfLinG | In it's data field |
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| 01:08.48 | wOlfLinG | Not that hard tbh |
| 01:09.09 | Vulfe | doodad-spamming tip of the day: You can eliminate the collisions on a doodad by checking the "don't use doodad footprint box" on that specific doodad |
| 01:09.10 | Vulfe | :O |
| 01:09.11 | wOlfLinG | And is it even possible to referance an array number? |
| 01:09.13 | Vulfe | http://i35.tinypic.com/33kq3kh.jpg |
| 01:09.18 | Vulfe | I'm a noob at lighting |
| 01:09.21 | Vulfe | but this looks pretty good I think |
| 01:09.35 | wOlfLinG | Ie. if cliaked dialog is Button[0], set i to 0 etc |
| 01:10.01 | Vulfe | pretty sure you can do that |
| 01:10.08 | Vulfe | why wouldn't you be able to |
| 01:10.09 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 01:10.14 | wOlfLinG | ok, how. And preferably without 'if then' |
| 01:10.26 | rooj | i dont want to eliminate the collision |
| 01:10.28 | Vulfe | you just used if then |
| 01:10.30 | rooj | i dont want people walking thru the doodads 8( |
| 01:10.31 | Vulfe | I know |
| 01:10.38 | Vulfe | Use pathing blockers |
| 01:10.41 | Vulfe | like everyone else |
| 01:10.43 | Vulfe | you stupid elitist |
| 01:10.44 | wOlfLinG | Because i may have loads of quests and i need to check what the info for each quest is when the quest button is clicked -.- |
| 01:10.59 | rooj | fine!!! |
| 01:11.01 | Vulfe | then do a for loop |
| 01:11.03 | Vulfe | and check each one |
| 01:11.10 | Vulfe | that's half the fun of making arrays |
| 01:12.23 | Lilianna | Yay buttons all nice and quick |
| 01:12.57 | wOlfLinG | yeah, can't loop for the life of me it seems :/ |
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| 01:13.22 | Vulfe_ | grrr |
| 01:13.23 | wOlfLinG | well, this is what happens when you want to make something epic, uber and ultra good ^^ |
| 01:13.26 | Vulfe_ | What did you think of the lighting x.x |
| 01:13.36 | Xackery | bleh.. I don't like it. :/ need another exterior texture. http://a.imageshack.us/img339/9429/blehj.png |
| 01:13.37 | wOlfLinG | Ok, why are there 2 of you? |
| 01:14.01 | Vulfe_ | I'm going to ban blizzard |
| 01:14.08 | Vulfe_ | for calling Tassadar the "twilight messiah" |
| 01:14.13 | Vulfe_ | PROTOSS JESUS OMG BANNED |
| 01:14.13 | wOlfLinG | O_o |
| 01:14.22 | wOlfLinG | why ban them? |
| 01:14.26 | wOlfLinG | WHYYYYYYYYY! |
| 01:14.39 | Vulfe_ | lol |
| 01:14.44 | AsaPhelps | did anyone see the expendables? |
| 01:14.50 | SycoPrime | Messiah isn't necessarily a christian-only term. The protoss are allowed to have their own religion >_> |
| 01:14.51 | Vulfe_ | Xackery: It's unfortunate you used a ground texture with diagonals |
| 01:14.57 | Vulfe_ | No they aren't |
| 01:15.01 | Vulfe_ | not if it's a MAJOR religion |
| 01:15.04 | Vulfe_ | then they can ban the map |
| 01:15.05 | Vulfe_ | ;P |
| 01:15.14 | AsaPhelps | i wonder what would happen if someone made a load image of tassadar arm wrestling kerrigan |
| 01:15.14 | SycoPrime | They're only allowed to believe in Space Pope? |
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| 01:16.51 | Xackery | http://a.imageshack.us/img839/6593/blehc.png better? |
| 01:16.57 | Xackery | hahaha |
| 01:17.06 | wOlfLinG | Woo! |
| 01:17.10 | wOlfLinG | Ty Vulfe :D |
| 01:17.15 | Vulfe_ | what |
| 01:17.18 | wOlfLinG | You gave me an idea of how to do it ^^ |
| 01:17.23 | Vulfe_ | What.. |
| 01:17.24 | Vulfe_ | How? |
| 01:17.25 | Vulfe_ | What |
| 01:17.28 | Vulfe_ | I'm so confused |
| 01:17.40 | Xackery | where |
| 01:17.41 | Xackery | when |
| 01:17.42 | Xackery | why? |
| 01:17.55 | wOlfLinG | This is the final code that actually works |
| 01:17.56 | wOlfLinG | http://pastebin.com/NtuDXjB2 |
| 01:18.04 | Vulfe_ | Xackery: Maybe you should consider switching tilesets |
| 01:18.10 | Vulfe_ | it's not very difficult or anything |
| 01:18.28 | Vulfe_ | Map > Map Textures |
| 01:18.28 | Xackery | Yeah, Vulfe. |
| 01:18.37 | wOlfLinG | I hadn't thought of using a 'for each integer' then checking if it was the clicked one |
| 01:18.47 | Vulfe_ | I told you to do exactly that |
| 01:18.50 | Vulfe_ | like 10 minutes ago |
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| 01:19.04 | wOlfLinG | Yeah, but not exactly, and not 10 mins ago >:( |
| 01:19.08 | Vulfe_ | whatever |
| 01:19.12 | wOlfLinG | ^^ |
| 01:19.12 | Vulfe_ | I wasn't very specific |
| 01:19.13 | Vulfe_ | ONETWO |
| 01:19.14 | Vulfe_ | HI |
| 01:19.17 | Vulfe_ | O_O |
| 01:19.21 | wOlfLinG | OHAITHAR 12! |
| 01:19.36 | Vulfe_ | I think people are insulting his maturity every time they call him 12 |
| 01:19.43 | Vulfe_ | I'll call him 21 |
| 01:19.45 | Vulfe_ | to avoid that |
| 01:19.47 | wOlfLinG | Also, great cinimatic tut onetwo :) |
| 01:20.29 | Vulfe_ | What does control + F do in the editor |
| 01:20.30 | Vulfe_ | lol |
| 01:20.34 | Vulfe_ | oh |
| 01:20.34 | Vulfe_ | Find |
| 01:20.35 | Vulfe_ | no way |
| 01:20.36 | Vulfe_ | :O |
| 01:20.39 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 01:20.45 | wOlfLinG | it finds EVERYTHING! |
| 01:20.45 | onetwo | hi cuties |
| 01:20.50 | Vulfe_ | it has a search thing right there... |
| 01:20.53 | Vulfe_ | why would I hit Ctrl F |
| 01:20.54 | onetwo | thx wolfling |
| 01:20.55 | Vulfe_ | x.x |
| 01:20.57 | onetwo | hoping it was good :D |
| 01:21.03 | Vulfe_ | What cinematic tutorial |
| 01:21.07 | wOlfLinG | Also, i didn't get to be an SC2Mapster mod :( |
| 01:21.10 | Vulfe_ | I should make a doodading tutorial |
| 01:21.17 | wOlfLinG | Don't even know half the mods that were picked :/ |
| 01:21.19 | Vulfe_ | since everyone else sucks at it |
| 01:21.20 | onetwo | meh dont worry |
| 01:21.22 | onetwo | im not a mod either :D |
| 01:21.25 | wOlfLinG | ^^ |
| 01:21.25 | Xackery | rofl. |
| 01:21.29 | Vulfe_ | lol 21 |
| 01:21.52 | onetwo | Im thinking of opening a tutorial store in big malls around NA |
| 01:21.54 | onetwo | called Forever 12 |
| 01:22.05 | onetwo | and rake in the success of the popular womens clothing store, forever 21 |
| 01:22.10 | onetwo | SHOULD I DO IT? |
| 01:22.11 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 01:22.15 | wOlfLinG | YAYA! |
| 01:22.15 | Vulfe_ | lol |
| 01:22.18 | wOlfLinG | DO EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET! |
| 01:22.23 | Vulfe_ | Map tutorial store |
| 01:22.26 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:22.33 | onetwo | ill be so rich ill have like 20 workers there standing around |
| 01:22.35 | onetwo | oh wait thats apple store |
| 01:22.37 | onetwo | nvm |
| 01:22.38 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 01:22.39 | Vulfe_ | I'd like to purchase "How to make your map not suck" by OneTwo |
| 01:22.45 | Vulfe_ | It's an empty pamphlet. |
| 01:22.48 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:22.49 | onetwo | haha |
| 01:22.57 | wOlfLinG | I can has 'terranin' fur nubz'? |
| 01:23.16 | Vulfe_ | Sorry sir, we only accept e-peen at this store, no cash or credit |
| 01:23.20 | wOlfLinG | :( |
| 01:23.40 | wOlfLinG | I has none e-peen! This is discrimination! |
| 01:23.50 | Vulfe_ | sorry, ladie |
| 01:23.50 | wOlfLinG | sues onetwo |
| 01:23.52 | Vulfe_ | ladies* |
| 01:23.56 | onetwo | sue me |
| 01:24.02 | onetwo | drives off in lambo |
| 01:24.03 | Vulfe_ | sue me all night long |
| 01:24.17 | Vulfe_ | that didn't even make sense |
| 01:24.20 | Vulfe_ | I'm tired |
| 01:24.24 | Vulfe_ | goes to sleep |
| 01:25.30 | Vulfe | The orange omni lights are so shitty |
| 01:25.38 | Vulfe | you have to mix red and orange to make it look good |
| 01:25.48 | onetwo | yeah |
| 01:26.16 | LordAbyss | im watching your tutorial |
| 01:26.18 | LordAbyss | onetwo |
| 01:26.45 | onetwo | oh kk |
| 01:27.19 | LordAbyss | i don't like the camera motions you have |
| 01:27.28 | LordAbyss | 0 seconds is fast for me |
| 01:27.39 | Vulfe | someone should get me to sing for their map |
| 01:27.48 | Vulfe | would be epic |
| 01:27.53 | LordAbyss | as long as you sing the pokemon song |
| 01:27.59 | Vulfe | especially because I can actually sing |
| 01:28.01 | Vulfe | and no |
| 01:28.03 | Vulfe | not pokemon |
| 01:28.11 | onetwo | so i havent played sc2 in a while |
| 01:28.11 | LordAbyss | justin beiber |
| 01:28.13 | onetwo | hows the list |
| 01:28.15 | onetwo | any better now? |
| 01:28.23 | Xackery | ew, I guess if you keep texture swapping your cliffs convert to organic cliffs from manmade when you hit one. wee. |
| 01:28.37 | Tinman | what list onetwo? |
| 01:28.38 | LordAbyss | you should check the map development page |
| 01:28.41 | LordAbyss | onetwo |
| 01:28.45 | LordAbyss | i made some massive posts |
| 01:29.01 | onetwo | oh k |
| 01:29.21 | onetwo | i like the new map review group |
| 01:29.27 | onetwo | the reviews concur with my opinions |
| 01:29.37 | LordAbyss | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/8314-video-map-war-of-finality/ |
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| 01:29.57 | Saucy | Can someone help me on changeing the death model of a building? |
| 01:30.18 | onetwo | cool |
| 01:30.24 | Vulfe | I saw onetwo's terrain tutorial |
| 01:30.27 | onetwo | whats the death model? |
| 01:30.27 | Vulfe | he thinks waterfalls are real |
| 01:30.31 | onetwo | wtf they are |
| 01:30.40 | Vulfe | still delusional |
| 01:30.51 | Saucy | I'm trying to change the death model of the obelisk from ObeliskDeath to ObelsikShiftIn |
| 01:30.54 | onetwo | i also think im the best |
| 01:31.15 | Saucy | ShiftOut* |
| 01:31.15 | Saucy | Sry |
| 01:31.31 | AsaPhelps | i heard 12 doesn't play any map that doesn't have a waterfall in it |
| 01:31.34 | Saucy | Everytime i change it... i test it out and it doesnt show when I kill it |
| 01:31.50 | Vulfe | I should make a stream of me terraining |
| 01:31.52 | AsaPhelps | probably because when you kill it doesn't play the right death animation |
| 01:31.59 | Saucy | I set it to Birth |
| 01:32.01 | Vulfe | half of the stream would be me staring at one place trying to figure out what to do |
| 01:32.05 | Saucy | Which is the only thing ObeliskShiftOut has |
| 01:32.14 | Saucy | The animation |
| 01:32.15 | Saucy | that is |
| 01:32.26 | Saucy | still doesnt work |
| 01:32.26 | Saucy | :( |
| 01:33.38 | Saucy | anyone have a solution? |
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| 01:34.02 | wOlfLinG | Also, anyone know how to add a scroll thing in a dialog? |
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| 01:34.55 | rooj | THERE VULFE |
| 01:34.56 | rooj | I DID IT |
| 01:34.58 | rooj | HAPPY?!?!?! |
| 01:35.16 | wOlfLinG | HE IS! I CAN READ HIS MIND! |
| 01:35.21 | rooj | GOOD |
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| 01:36.00 | Saucy | Anyyonee?? :( It seems so simple yet when i try it doesnt work.. "\ |
| 01:36.31 | Vulfe | I'm here |
| 01:36.35 | Vulfe | now |
| 01:37.16 | Vulfe | You should all see the semi-final version of the upper part of this room |
| 01:37.22 | Vulfe | because it looks mediocre |
| 01:38.36 | Saucy | :\ |
| 01:38.45 | Cobellanez | : / |
| 01:38.46 | Saucy | Editor doesnt listen to me >:O |
| 01:38.56 | onetwo | its cause somebody didnt believe |
| 01:39.10 | Cobellanez | PEOPLE don't listen to me. |
| 01:39.16 | Vulfe | I believe in you |
| 01:39.21 | Saucy | Seriously.. I change death model... and it doesnt show up |
| 01:39.21 | Vulfe | John |
| 01:39.22 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 01:39.25 | Saucy | What could i possibly be doing wrong? |
| 01:39.31 | Vulfe | hopes his name is John |
| 01:39.39 | Vulfe | Your name isn't John, is it, Saucy? |
| 01:39.42 | Saucy | *O_o |
| 01:39.44 | Vulfe | dammit... |
| 01:39.51 | Saucy | Nope |
| 01:39.53 | Saucy | tis Zeke |
| 01:39.53 | Vulfe | http://i33.tinypic.com/23vjq09.jpg |
| 01:39.54 | Vulfe | Well |
| 01:39.56 | Vulfe | I have |
| 01:39.58 | Vulfe | no talent |
| 01:40.02 | Vulfe | look at that picture |
| 01:40.03 | Vulfe | terrible |
| 01:40.09 | Saucy | Im scared to click |
| 01:40.10 | Saucy | O_o.. |
| 01:40.16 | Xackery | it's him naked |
| 01:40.17 | Xackery | don't click it |
| 01:40.20 | Saucy | :OOO |
| 01:40.23 | Saucy | imma click it now |
| 01:40.24 | Cobellanez | What am I looking at? |
| 01:40.26 | Saucy | i like naked men |
| 01:40.27 | Vulfe | Lol |
| 01:40.30 | SycoPrime | Vulfe, what are you doing with a picture of Rick Astley? |
| 01:40.31 | Cobellanez | What is this? |
| 01:40.43 | Vulfe | It's a cat and a bird |
| 01:40.48 | Vulfe | killing each others' families |
| 01:40.52 | Vulfe | simultaneously |
| 01:40.59 | Saucy | woah i like that map |
| 01:41.00 | Saucy | O_o.. |
| 01:41.06 | SycoPrime | So how is this supposed to be horrible? |
| 01:41.08 | Vulfe | The terrain on my map is so bad |
| 01:41.11 | Vulfe | I should just get like |
| 01:41.15 | Vulfe | whoever made nexus wars |
| 01:41.18 | Vulfe | to make my terrain |
| 01:41.20 | Saucy | LOL |
| 01:41.22 | Vulfe | because he's so great at it |
| 01:41.30 | casperb | oh yeah |
| 01:41.30 | Saucy | Are you serious, you think your terrain sucks? |
| 01:41.35 | Vulfe | No |
| 01:41.36 | casperb | nexus wars just looks awesome.. |
| 01:41.40 | Vulfe | I'm sarcastic |
| 01:41.44 | casperb | btw is it backwards day today? |
| 01:41.48 | Vulfe | no |
| 01:41.51 | SycoPrime | Vulfe is just fishing for le complements. |
| 01:41.53 | Saucy | I'd decent. Could be better |
| 01:41.54 | Vulfe | I'm just sarcastic |
| 01:41.55 | Saucy | xD |
| 01:41.58 | Vulfe | Well |
| 01:42.03 | Vulfe | It worked, didn't it, Syco? |
| 01:42.03 | Vulfe | :P |
| 01:42.04 | Cobellanez | The Rick Roll is just like Rollout! The more it works the better it gets, the more it works the better it gets, the more it works the better it gets. Untill it DOESN'T work, then it jus sucks again. |
| 01:42.10 | Klonkq | for requirements what do the "use" and "show" mean? |
| 01:42.14 | SycoPrime | Yes, sir, it did. |
| 01:42.18 | casperb | Oh yeah another editor fail, 100% != 100% :o |
| 01:42.46 | SycoPrime | Klonq: "Show" means it doesn't show up if it doesn't meet requirements. |
| 01:42.51 | casperb | leaderboard column widths are documented to be percentage of screen, yet it's not resolution independent.. |
| 01:42.52 | Vail | use means the requiremt has to be met for the ability or what ever to work |
| 01:42.58 | onetwo | use means itll be grayed out |
| 01:43.01 | onetwo | if it doesnt pass the rquirements |
| 01:43.04 | onetwo | show means itll be hidden |
| 01:43.05 | Vulfe | The reasoning is that when I ask what people think of my terrain, nobody says anything |
| 01:43.06 | SycoPrime | "Use" means that if it doesn't meet requirements, it shows up, grayed out, telling you that you need whatever the requirements say in order to make it not gray. |
| 01:43.10 | Saucy | Can anyone help me with changing death animations on a building? |
| 01:43.11 | Klonkq | ok thanks |
| 01:43.14 | ekcolnovkol|z | onetwo |
| 01:43.14 | casperb | onetwo: posted an appendix thingy on your tut :p |
| 01:43.19 | Vail | show means that the requrement has to to be met for the object to show |
| 01:43.22 | ekcolnovkol|z | can you link |
| 01:43.24 | onetwo | wow VUlfe i love it :D |
| 01:43.27 | ekcolnovkol|z | the app that increases replay speed |
| 01:43.36 | onetwo | what app? |
| 01:43.42 | ekcolnovkol|z | the one you use for your videos |
| 01:43.49 | ekcolnovkol|z | the slow down game speed |
| 01:43.55 | ekcolnovkol|z | i need it to increase game speed |
| 01:43.55 | Vulfe | nobody gives constructive comments either |
| 01:43.57 | Vulfe | whatever |
| 01:44.00 | Vulfe | I'm going to go play runling run |
| 01:44.13 | onetwo | oh |
| 01:44.15 | Vulfe | :D |
| 01:44.17 | onetwo | ekcol it wont work anymore |
| 01:44.25 | onetwo | mindworx only built it to work on a per version basis |
| 01:44.30 | onetwo | so youd have to ask him to update it |
| 01:44.32 | onetwo | and then send it to you |
| 01:45.21 | Saucy | Anyone help with death model? I seriously have no idea what I'm doing wrong |
| 01:45.37 | Vulfe | if anyone wants me to fuck with their map |
| 01:45.39 | Vulfe | let me know by PM |
| 01:45.41 | Vulfe | thanks bye |
| 01:46.35 | Tordecybombo | say what |
| 01:46.35 | Saucy | Cmon.. anyone? |
| 01:46.38 | SouLCarveR | What you guys think about my "Dynamic SkyBox" tutorial |
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| 01:52.57 | Saucy | What am i doing wrong? http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5250/whatamidoingwrong.png |
| 01:53.40 | Saucy | Anyone? :\ |
| 01:54.09 | arturusfury | Sorry Saucy, I have no idea |
| 01:54.14 | Saucy | D: |
| 01:54.20 | Saucy | So frustrating! |
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| 01:57.24 | SycoPrime | I have no idea either, but should the animation property be set to "Birth"? |
| 01:57.32 | Saucy | Yea |
| 01:57.35 | Saucy | Thats why i put the image |
| 01:57.40 | Saucy | I opened the model in the previewer |
| 01:57.45 | Saucy | and the ONLY animation is called Birth |
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| 01:59.35 | Tordecybombo | i didnt know you were jewish |
| 01:59.44 | Qumanhawk | hey guys im having a problem with publishing my map. It starts to upload gets to 100% then fails. and it says something about VALID_SCORESCREEN_ blah blah. I have victory conditions set and the score screen set to hide for all players |
| 02:00.25 | casperb | Qumanhawk: post the whole blah part |
| 02:00.56 | casperb | Saying i have an error SOMETHING_blablabla does not help very much :p |
| 02:01.48 | Klonkq | can i use a validator to remove an existing behaviour from a unit when he gains another behaviour? |
| 02:02.04 | Klonkq | or disable |
| 02:02.07 | casperb | yep |
| 02:02.11 | Klonkq | cool |
| 02:02.41 | casperb | Behaviour 1 requires behaviour 2 not to be present, so if behaviour 2 is activated, it's disallowed |
| 02:02.42 | LordAbyss | onetwo |
| 02:02.49 | Xackery | @Klonkq = do a requirement and count the other behavior going on, and disable/remove accordingly |
| 02:02.50 | LordAbyss | i want your super slow app for cinematics |
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| 02:03.23 | casperb | [03:44] <+onetwo> ekcol it wont work anymore [03:44] <+onetwo> mindworx only built it to work on a per version basis [03:44] <+onetwo> so youd have to ask him to update it [03:44] <+onetwo> and then send it to you |
| 02:03.32 | casperb | like 3 lines up -.- |
| 02:03.32 | Otixa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_o47Gs6DQ0 |
| 02:03.36 | Otixa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_o47Gs6DQ0 |
| 02:03.37 | Otixa | >:[ |
| 02:03.38 | LordAbyss | awww |
| 02:03.41 | LordAbyss | i wasn't here then |
| 02:03.45 | LordAbyss | i was getting some food |
| 02:03.47 | SouLCarveR | or you could update it yourself... |
| 02:04.20 | casperb | Otixa: wtf factor.. |
| 02:04.25 | casperb | is the source available? |
| 02:04.33 | SouLCarveR | the source for what? |
| 02:04.47 | casperb | Mindworks memory hack |
| 02:05.30 | SouLCarveR | .... why would you need a memory hack? |
| 02:05.42 | SouLCarveR | and how does that allow you to do anything with a map |
| 02:05.51 | Otixa | :D |
| 02:06.05 | Otixa | Wut memory hack? |
| 02:06.06 | casperb | Well it's what it does, changes the game speed in memory |
| 02:06.14 | AsaPhelps | wtf my capcha was just 6.9" uptexter |
| 02:06.16 | SouLCarveR | why would you need to? |
| 02:06.29 | casperb | Wasn't me who wanted it :p |
| 02:06.32 | casperb | Just saying how it's done |
| 02:06.48 | SouLCarveR | its not just a trigger library? |
| 02:06.52 | casperb | nah |
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| 02:07.22 | AsaPhelps | okay guys |
| 02:07.27 | AsaPhelps | what do you think of this for a 4 player td layout |
| 02:07.29 | AsaPhelps | http://i36.tinypic.com/egti6b.png |
| 02:07.58 | Qumanhawk | Upload Error: 8/23/2010 12:05 PM, VALIDATION_WORKING_SET_SCORESCREEN_FAIL |
| 02:08.02 | Otixa | AsaPhelps, penis |
| 02:08.03 | asdfern | would it be difficult designing a square grid overlay for a map and have units perform pathfinding using that grid? |
| 02:08.06 | Qumanhawk | thats the error |
| 02:08.11 | AsaPhelps | its a kind of penis yes |
| 02:08.27 | casperb | It's a TD.. |
| 02:08.30 | Otixa | AsaPhelps, and we now know your name |
| 02:08.32 | Otixa | gg. |
| 02:08.34 | casperb | You know a TD is just one letter away from an STD? |
| 02:08.56 | AsaPhelps | Otxia |
| 02:08.57 | AsaPhelps | FUuuuuuuu |
| 02:09.01 | Otixa | ;D |
| 02:09.14 | AsaPhelps | STD TD defense |
| 02:09.20 | AsaPhelps | where infected sperm come in waves |
| 02:09.24 | AsaPhelps | and you have to protect an egg |
| 02:09.25 | casperb | asdfern: any reason why you can't use the regular grid? |
| 02:09.25 | AsaPhelps | omggggggg |
| 02:09.28 | AsaPhelps | ty casperb |
| 02:09.39 | AsaPhelps | i'm so making that |
| 02:09.46 | wOlfLinG | STD TD: Stop zerglings getting to your queen :D |
| 02:09.58 | asdfern | casperb perhaps not, is there a way to make that grid visible? I need to see the scale |
| 02:10.03 | Otixa | AsaPhelps, do the soccer thing, fgt >:[ |
| 02:10.11 | AsaPhelps | i'll do baseball if you help me |
| 02:10.24 | Otixa | fuck baseball |
| 02:10.26 | Otixa | do soccer |
| 02:10.40 | Otixa | I already gave you the code for ball movement ¬_¬ |
| 02:10.45 | casperb | asdfern: runtime, you'd have to texture it or bring in a terrain object |
| 02:10.49 | Qumanhawk | any one who can tell me why i get this error when i publish to bnet? VALIDATION_WORKING_SET_SCORESCREEN_FAIL |
| 02:10.52 | AsaPhelps | then you do it |
| 02:10.58 | Otixa | cba |
| 02:11.12 | asdfern | casperb I'm considering attempting to make a advance wars-themed custom map, that's why I need it grid-oriented |
| 02:11.13 | asdfern | alright |
| 02:11.24 | AsaPhelps | so no one cares about my layout |
| 02:11.40 | Otixa | layout seems fine |
| 02:11.41 | AsaPhelps | i'm going to make more income/nexus war type maps to spite you guys |
| 02:11.52 | casperb | AsaPhelps... RUSSIAN SPY! |
| 02:11.57 | AsaPhelps | actually i played a couple good maps today |
| 02:12.00 | LordAbyss | guys im making a map also!! |
| 02:12.01 | AsaPhelps | bound something |
| 02:12.03 | AsaPhelps | was awesome |
| 02:12.05 | LordAbyss | its terrible |
| 02:12.10 | AsaPhelps | you're terrible |
| 02:12.14 | LordAbyss | i know |
| 02:12.18 | AsaPhelps | and one where you protect kerrigan was okay too |
| 02:12.25 | AsaPhelps | though the guy went overboard on spawns |
| 02:12.28 | Otixa | You guys suck >:| |
| 02:12.33 | LordAbyss | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/8314-video-map-war-of-finality/ |
| 02:12.34 | casperb | asdfern: well, world coodinates are in a grid space, and pathing is already done by a vmap so it's pretty much already implemented |
| 02:12.37 | LordAbyss | read mah massive posts |
| 02:12.42 | AsaPhelps | soccer map would be #1 on europe |
| 02:12.44 | Klonkq | ok cool, the behaviours arent stacking anymore |
| 02:12.45 | Klonkq | but |
| 02:12.46 | AsaPhelps | and 0 games played/hour on us |
| 02:12.46 | casperb | asdfern: just have to block/unblock the nodes you need blocked/unblock :) |
| 02:12.48 | AsaPhelps | amirite? |
| 02:13.00 | asdfern | i see |
| 02:13.00 | Klonkq | im still getting the little icon from the old behaviour, that isnt on anymore, on my unit |
| 02:13.07 | Klonkq | how would i go about removing that |
| 02:13.26 | Otixa | AsaPhelps, no |
| 02:13.27 | casperb | Kick the editor |
| 02:13.33 | Otixa | Anyway, go work on it |
| 02:13.39 | casperb | Klonkq: if it's truly removed then you might be running on a cached version |
| 02:13.47 | casperb | close out and reopen |
| 02:15.15 | rooj | my editor just crashed >_>; |
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| 02:15.23 | rooj | thats probably a good sign to go to bed :P |
| 02:15.33 | Tordecybombo | O_O |
| 02:15.37 | Tordecybombo | O___________________O |
| 02:15.42 | wOlfLinG | So any way to filter a list based off the selections of 2 pulldowns or will i just have to do a load of switches and lists? |
| 02:15.42 | Tordecybombo | O_______________________________________O |
| 02:15.56 | Otixa | evades photons |
| 02:16.02 | Otixa | becomes invisible |
| 02:16.04 | Otixa | ;D |
| 02:16.10 | Klonkq | actually im not sure if its removed |
| 02:16.22 | Klonkq | its just not giving any bonuses |
| 02:16.30 | Tordecybombo | who here put a rating system in their map? |
| 02:16.33 | Klonkq | Its not a biggie, but id like the icon removed |
| 02:17.05 | Otixa | wut icon |
| 02:17.08 | LordAbyss | puts paint on Otixa to make him visable. |
| 02:17.13 | Klonkq | im getting like "this skill lvl1" and "this skill lvl2" icons on the left side of my characters stats |
| 02:17.18 | Klonkq | from behaviours |
| 02:17.23 | Otixa | is still evading photons, still invisible |
| 02:17.37 | SouLCarveR | does anybody know how to add unit models to the back ground of dialog buttons? |
| 02:18.00 | Klonkq | only lvl2 is giving stats to the hero, but i can see lvl1 icon aswell |
| 02:18.29 | AsaPhelps | you should make an effect that removes the behavior |
| 02:18.35 | AsaPhelps | like i have |
| 02:18.45 | AsaPhelps | lets name it awesome aura |
| 02:18.54 | AsaPhelps | so i made an ability named learn awesome aura |
| 02:18.59 | AsaPhelps | with an effect, apply behavior |
| 02:19.02 | AsaPhelps | with autocast on |
| 02:19.07 | AsaPhelps | so you learn it, you get the behavior |
| 02:19.09 | Klonkq | I tried that |
| 02:19.11 | AsaPhelps | then there's level 2 |
| 02:19.19 | AsaPhelps | so level 2 gives you awesome aura level 2 behavior |
| 02:19.26 | AsaPhelps | and the initial effect is remove awesaome aura level 1 |
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| 02:19.28 | Klonkq | not sure if i did it correctly , but it made my hero act weird |
| 02:19.32 | AsaPhelps | so it removes the behavior |
| 02:19.55 | AsaPhelps | okay |
| 02:19.56 | Klonkq | I have different abilities for different levels |
| 02:20.00 | AsaPhelps | I need to make 50 waves of monsters |
| 02:20.02 | SouLCarveR | does anybody know why Odin wont die after removing the Odin Wreckage ability? |
| 02:20.04 | AsaPhelps | and 30 or so towers |
| 02:20.27 | Nash|327 | There's a behavior called Odin Won't Die D: |
| 02:20.31 | Nash|327 | IIRC |
| 02:20.42 | Cobellanez | To allow a unit to move, do I have to add "Move" to the command card? |
| 02:21.11 | SouLCarveR | lol Nash i thought you were kidding |
| 02:21.15 | SouLCarveR | but its exactly that |
| 02:22.56 | AsaPhelps | you need a mover too I think |
| 02:23.26 | Tordecybombo | boopboop |
| 02:23.27 | Tordecybombo | betty boop |
| 02:23.29 | Tordecybombo | betty booop |
| 02:23.32 | Tordecybombo | betty boooooooooooop |
| 02:23.37 | casperb | Needs the move ability, mover, acceleration, and movable flag set to true |
| 02:23.51 | Qumanhawk | is there a reason why in game variants the variant name doesnt save? and keeps going blank? |
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| 02:23.54 | Klonkq | oh neat |
| 02:24.41 | Klonkq | new effect -> remove behaviour, and make the second behaviour initial effect be removing the first behaviour. thanks AsaPhelps |
| 02:24.56 | nitroball | finally got it in-game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdO0bUQNbM |
| 02:25.50 | AsaPhelps | you probably could've just made it stack the behavior if its linear in leveling |
| 02:26.11 | Nash|327 | Told ya! |
| 02:26.41 | SycoPrime | Nitroball: Very nice. |
| 02:26.56 | Tordecybombo | XD |
| 02:27.47 | nitroball | only 2 animations right now; walk and stand... I just wanted to get it in-game to see if I could :p |
| 02:29.19 | nitroball | I'm using bipeds in 3DS to animate it... I find it easier to build up a library of animations. Then it's easy to convert it to bones after it's all collected together. |
| 02:29.33 | Xackery | is that a vampire bat nitroball? |
| 02:29.33 | Xackery | lol |
| 02:29.46 | nitroball | no it's a vampire bear |
| 02:29.52 | Xackery | got it |
| 02:29.59 | Xackery | good job :) |
| 02:30.12 | nitroball | http://yfrog.com/8bbearyj |
| 02:30.27 | Xackery | lol |
| 02:30.29 | nitroball | here's the texture map |
| 02:30.44 | Xackery | Complete with a earring |
| 02:30.45 | AsaPhelps | that thing is scary |
| 02:30.52 | AsaPhelps | webbed feet |
| 02:31.26 | casperb | moodoo! |
| 02:31.34 | nitroball | yah! |
| 02:31.40 | casperb | rigging tools available yet? |
| 02:31.45 | nitroball | nopr |
| 02:31.48 | casperb | >:( |
| 02:31.56 | AsaPhelps | how much space is that model going to take up in a map |
| 02:31.59 | AsaPhelps | like 1 mb? |
| 02:32.38 | casperb | depends on the texture resolution and number of maps, between 1-5megs |
| 02:32.52 | casperb | maps being texture maps |
| 02:33.09 | Xaragoth | i'd love to see people using some space with modfiles and doing multiple maps |
| 02:33.20 | Xaragoth | like a multitude of a good zombie survival thingy |
| 02:33.26 | Xaragoth | +s |
| 02:33.29 | nitroball | here's an HDR render in Modo with fur, for anyone that cares: http://yfrog.com/9gbear6j |
| 02:33.44 | casperb | that's just creepy :D |
| 02:34.25 | casperb | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079758/ |
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| 02:35.45 | Xaragoth | yeah |
| 02:35.50 | Xaragoth | I thought of that one too |
| 02:35.51 | Xaragoth | xD |
| 02:36.15 | nitroball | interesting... |
| 02:36.17 | casperb | that or it's chuck's buddy |
| 02:36.20 | casperb | that creepy doll |
| 02:36.34 | casperb | So make his main ability be EAT PEOPLE! |
| 02:36.49 | Xaragoth | no, thats the ability of flying cracklings |
| 02:36.51 | Xaragoth | :O |
| 02:36.55 | casperb | AoE instant effect of 255 range, he goes on a frenzy eating all bialogical units in that range |
| 02:37.05 | AsaPhelps | 255 why not 500 |
| 02:37.35 | Xaragoth | make him as fast as the infested terrans in the card game |
| 02:37.48 | Xaragoth | like lightning speed |
| 02:38.02 | casperb | 360 is the absolute maximum AsaPhelps |
| 02:38.05 | nitroball | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3twtgi4BEsg |
| 02:38.31 | casperb | diagonal = sqrt [ x 2 + y 2 ] IIRC |
| 02:38.35 | Vulfe | why not 300 |
| 02:38.40 | Vulfe | 360 rather |
| 02:38.41 | Vulfe | then |
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| 02:40.48 | AsaPhelps | what about 301 |
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| 02:43.07 | nitroball | casperb as in the 2D version, he eats squirrels. But yah, he could bite peoples heads off instead of squirrels. |
| 02:43.53 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDQ1GAZZk6E#t=1m14s lol thats pwned on a new scale |
| 02:43.53 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
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| 02:45.45 | Ulti__ | Two _'s now? Looks like I may just have to install an IRC client again.... |
| 02:46.28 | Xackery | funny Xaragoth |
| 02:46.47 | Ulti__ | Anyways, I was wondering if anyone had a copy of a SC2 comic winner - it's the one where someone made a protoss counterpart to terratron |
| 02:47.51 | Vulfe | OneTwo placing doodads makes me Lol |
| 02:47.55 | Vulfe | he's just like |
| 02:48.01 | Vulfe | randomly throwing things around |
| 02:48.06 | Vulfe | it hurtssss |
| 02:48.09 | Xackery | nitroball: why is the bear wielding a bleach sword? ;/ |
| 02:48.15 | onetwo | stfu |
| 02:48.19 | onetwo | im the best |
| 02:48.31 | Tinman | Random makes things better |
| 02:48.35 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:48.41 | Vulfe | well |
| 02:48.47 | Tinman | even if its just SlightlyRandom |
| 02:48.47 | Vulfe | if it helps, I'm watching your tutorial :P |
| 02:48.52 | Cobellanez | How would I make an automatic exractor like in the campaign? |
| 02:49.03 | Vulfe | take the one from the campaign |
| 02:49.04 | Vulfe | and use it> |
| 02:49.15 | Cobellanez | Where IS it? |
| 02:49.17 | Tinman | Cobellanez add the upgrade with a trigger? |
| 02:49.28 | Cobellanez | ...what? |
| 02:49.50 | Tinman | Its a upgrade that does it |
| 02:50.09 | Tinman | you make a trigger that gives the player(s) the upgrade |
| 02:50.22 | Vulfe | Wait |
| 02:50.23 | Vulfe | 12 |
| 02:50.26 | Cobellanez | <Doesn't know anything about doing that |
| 02:50.26 | Vulfe | Did you play the campaign!? |
| 02:50.34 | TheLaughingMan | http://tinychat.com/nesgames |
| 02:50.44 | nitroball | Xackery bleach swords are all the rage |
| 02:51.05 | Tinman | I did yes, its a upgrade, like ghost perma cloak and so on |
| 02:51.26 | onetwo | still havent finished it |
| 02:51.27 | Vulfe | Not talking to you tinman |
| 02:51.30 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:51.35 | Vulfe | ur funny 12 |
| 02:51.41 | Vulfe | bad english is also funny |
| 02:51.41 | onetwo | you kind of half to throw things around in tutorials |
| 02:51.44 | onetwo | i dont have time to be na artist |
| 02:51.47 | Tinman | xD Then add names! |
| 02:51.48 | Vulfe | I understand |
| 02:51.49 | Cobellanez | Ok, effectivley I want to remove the need for multiple workers. I know some maps have done that by simply making the worker a resource drop off, but I don't want there to even BE a worker |
| 02:51.53 | onetwo | an* |
| 02:51.54 | Vulfe | I only have time to be an artist |
| 02:51.57 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:52.03 | Vulfe | but, as previously stated, a livestream of me terraining |
| 02:52.06 | Vulfe | would be boring as hell |
| 02:52.09 | onetwo | rofl |
| 02:52.17 | onetwo | terraining is only fun for the person doing it |
| 02:52.22 | Tinman | Cobellanez ok, its done by a trigger |
| 02:52.23 | Vulfe | yep |
| 02:52.23 | onetwo | and the end result is midly entertaining for viewers |
| 02:52.25 | onetwo | but thats it |
| 02:52.30 | Vulfe | well yeah |
| 02:52.31 | Tinman | go into your trigger editor |
| 02:52.35 | Cobellanez | I know NOTHING about triggers |
| 02:52.40 | Vulfe | it makes a huge difference when your map is done though |
| 02:52.43 | AsaPhelps | whats the hardest part of a td, the towers? |
| 02:52.44 | Vulfe | having nice terrain |
| 02:53.09 | Tinman | Cobellanez Start the trigger editor already! I will go by it step by step :p |
| 02:53.13 | Cobellanez | I did |
| 02:53.36 | Tinman | OK you should have a default trigger there with some Melee stuff |
| 02:53.37 | Vulfe | 12 protip: you can resize doodad lights |
| 02:53.45 | Vulfe | you probably knew that |
| 02:53.52 | Cobellanez | yep |
| 02:53.58 | Tinman | Hit Ctrl+R to add a new action |
| 02:54.28 | Tinman | Then in the search box at the top, search for "Add Upgrade" |
| 02:54.34 | AsaPhelps | my terrain has grass and dirt |
| 02:54.36 | AsaPhelps | its awesome |
| 02:54.42 | Vulfe | I'm sure |
| 02:54.45 | Vulfe | You technical people |
| 02:54.50 | Vulfe | with all of your triggers and data |
| 02:54.53 | Vulfe | eating your time |
| 02:54.55 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 02:54.55 | Tinman | There you can specify who should get what upgrade |
| 02:55.06 | SycoPrime | Is it possible to use one actor for multiple units? (using DE, not triggers). |
| 02:55.12 | onetwo | i agree Vulfe |
| 02:55.15 | onetwo | terrain is HUGELY important |
| 02:55.16 | SycoPrime | Without duplicate, etc. |
| 02:55.29 | Vulfe | Half of the RPGs I play |
| 02:55.30 | Vulfe | are like |
| 02:55.32 | Vulfe | no depth |
| 02:55.34 | Vulfe | and terrible terrain |
| 02:55.36 | Tinman | Now, the upgrade you want is from the campaign, do you have that Dependency loaded? |
| 02:55.37 | Vulfe | wtf did they spend time on |
| 02:55.41 | Vulfe | looking at the map? |
| 02:55.44 | Xackery | Indeed. |
| 02:55.51 | Xackery | My terrain sucks. :/ |
| 02:55.54 | Vulfe | lol |
| 02:55.59 | Vulfe | it's not hard to make terrain that looks good |
| 02:56.00 | Xackery | and I suck at triggerizing |
| 02:56.04 | Vulfe | well |
| 02:56.11 | Xackery | and I don't know anything about data editor |
| 02:56.18 | Vulfe | well |
| 02:56.23 | Vulfe | enough about effects and abilities :P |
| 02:56.48 | Xackery | Btw, I may release a FFT mod for people to make RPG's with. |
| 02:56.55 | Tinman | Cobellanez you still there? Or did I go to fast :p |
| 02:56.59 | Xackery | with 247 items already inside it! |
| 02:57.08 | Vulfe | thanks for misinforming people 12 |
| 02:57.13 | Cobellanez | No, I kept up, but I can't find THAT ability |
| 02:57.17 | Vulfe | that other color box matters a lot when you're not colorizing |
| 02:57.24 | Cobellanez | I can't seem to find any of the campaign stuff |
| 02:57.30 | Vulfe | I guess 12 tutorials are for noobs anyway |
| 02:57.32 | Tinman | Go to File -> Dependencies |
| 02:57.33 | Vulfe | so it probably doesn't matter |
| 02:57.49 | nitroball | Kodo Tag! |
| 02:58.05 | Tinman | Click on "Add Standard" and Choose "Liberty (Campaign)" |
| 02:58.07 | Cobellanez | Hah |
| 02:58.08 | Cobellanez | got it |
| 02:58.11 | Tinman | Move it to the top |
| 02:58.22 | Tinman | unless they have fixed that issue >_> |
| 02:58.54 | PapaRoach | EPIC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITT6bYYGVfM&feature=fvw |
| 02:59.13 | Tinman | now go back and find "Story Mode Lab Tech - Build Automated Refinery" |
| 03:00.23 | Cobellanez | Ok, thank you very much |
| 03:00.45 | Cobellanez | But what if I wasnted to do the same thing, but for minerals? |
| 03:00.59 | onetwo | hahaha PapaRoach |
| 03:01.03 | onetwo | diabeteeeeeees |
| 03:01.11 | PapaRoach | hah |
| 03:01.13 | PapaRoach | so epic |
| 03:01.37 | Tinman | This one is better :p http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKsVSBhSwJg |
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| 03:01.47 | Tinman | Cobellanez no clue :p |
| 03:01.55 | Cobellanez | :F |
| 03:02.07 | Tinman | Auto give resources with a trigger? |
| 03:02.37 | Cobellanez | Well, effectivly want to make an extractor that goes ON a mineral field |
| 03:03.15 | onetwo | autotune husky would be hilariouis |
| 03:03.21 | Tinman | btw, the above upgrade only works for Refineries |
| 03:03.23 | Tinman | hehe |
| 03:03.35 | Tinman | onetwo I could do that :p |
| 03:03.48 | Cobellanez | NNNgggg, of course I've only done work on Zerg so far |
| 03:04.26 | Tinman | Cobellanez if you want it to work with the Zerg extractor you would need to modify the upgrade... |
| 03:04.30 | Xaax | Anyone know of a way to make a trigger which tells one unit to follow another, but at a distance so that the unit that is following doesn't run into the other one? |
| 03:04.35 | Tinman | well, copy it then modify |
| 03:04.43 | Komodo1138 | hide you kids, hide you wife |
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| 03:05.39 | Tinman | hide your husbands because they are rapin everybody out here |
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| 03:07.43 | Tinman | Auto tune is nice for random stuff, but people who actually "sing" with it suck so bad... oh more fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEnQdQpabM0 |
| 03:08.06 | Komodo1138 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuYDSa4BRaw |
| 03:11.06 | Cobellanez | Wait, is there a way to make a building just, GIVE, resources periodically? |
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| 03:11.41 | Cobellanez | Wow, I ask it right between his log off and on |
| 03:12.03 | Cobellanez | Wait, is there a way to make a building just, GIVE, resources periodically? |
| 03:12.20 | Tordecybombo | wtf |
| 03:12.32 | Cobellanez | wwtf? |
| 03:12.44 | SouLCarveR | wtf? |
| 03:12.57 | Cobellanez | wwtf?? |
| 03:12.59 | SouLCarveR | why not just give resources periodically based off what units a player has... |
| 03:13.05 | SouLCarveR | its way easier that way |
| 03:13.39 | Cobellanez | How is that easier than making a building give you resources? |
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| 03:14.43 | Cobellanez | Has anyone played Art of Defense? |
| 03:15.10 | HeyRevolver|work | That is seriously the best use of auto-tune I have ever seen |
| 03:15.14 | HeyRevolver|work | so much better than any shitty rap song |
| 03:15.41 | Vail | Cobellanez: yes you can make a structure that Gives you resources periodicl |
| 03:15.50 | Cobellanez | How? |
| 03:16.11 | Vail | that depends on how you want the structure to give resources. |
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| 03:16.36 | Cobellanez | What do you mean how? You mean the rate? |
| 03:16.48 | Vail | do you want the player to have to stand around it and recieve resources that way or do you want the player to build it and recieve them for owing it? |
| 03:17.03 | Cobellanez | Recieve just by ownership |
| 03:17.30 | Vail | ok then you will need a structure a buff and a modify player effect to start out .. |
| 03:18.26 | Cobellanez | wut? |
| 03:19.22 | Vail | you will need the structure you want to give resources and then you will need to give that structure a buff with a periodic effect set to modify player and add the resources you want |
| 03:19.57 | Cobellanez | Ok, I understand all of that except the modify player part |
| 03:20.32 | Vail | ok the modify player effect lets you give and take resources away from a player via data editing |
| 03:22.07 | Nash|327 | dammit how do you crop video D; |
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| 03:23.28 | Cobellanez | Where do I make the buff? |
| 03:23.28 | Vulfe | If I was the terrain Van Gogh, OneTwo would be like Jackson Pollock |
| 03:23.32 | Cobellanez | Effects? |
| 03:23.50 | Vail | buffs are in behaviors |
| 03:24.32 | Vulfe | god damn |
| 03:24.39 | Vulfe | I was so convinced tomorrow was wednesday |
| 03:24.40 | Vulfe | wtf... |
| 03:26.16 | Cobellanez | Well, I made a buff, but now what? |
| 03:26.32 | Vail | go to effects and create a Modify player effect |
| 03:28.06 | Cobellanez | Where in effects? |
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| 03:30.07 | Vail | dossent matter were once you set it to modify player and chose a race it will jump to the right place on the list |
| 03:31.14 | Cobellanez | ok got it |
| 03:32.28 | Vail | now you will want to change Effect - Player - Value to source and set Effect - Resources to the amount you want the player to recieve every time the effect occurs |
| 03:33.11 | Cobellanez | kk |
| 03:33.21 | Vail | positive ammounts will give resources while negatives should drain them |
| 03:34.47 | Cobellanez | Now what? |
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| 03:35.09 | Vail | now go back to your buff and set its periodic event to the modify player event you just made |
| 03:36.50 | Vail | the set the Stats - Periods Field to the number of seconds that you want the effect to happen after. |
| 03:38.14 | Cobellanez | I can't seem to find my Effect on this list |
| 03:38.43 | Vail | check the name on the effects tab does the name end with (unnamed)? |
| 03:38.49 | Cobellanez | yes |
| 03:39.04 | Vail | then you will have to save close and reopen the map |
| 03:39.47 | Saucy | Is there an effect I could make to power down a building? |
| 03:40.19 | Vail | for some reason usually after you add campaing dependencies this can happen. save close and reopen tends to fix it . |
| 03:41.24 | Vail | campaign even |
| 03:41.57 | Cobellanez | Ok, got it, but how do I get the buff on the building? |
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| 03:42.43 | Vail | go to units and go to the sctructures and on the building you want find the Behaviors - Behaviors Field and add it there |
| 03:44.08 | Vail | its in this field that you specify what behaviors you want on units, its here you would add verterancy and atributes for heros and other such behaviors. |
| 03:44.31 | Cobellanez | Sweet, got it, but how do I remove the ability to harvest it? |
| 03:45.47 | PapaRoach | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI |
| 03:45.51 | ZarafFaraz | hey guys |
| 03:45.53 | Vail | you go to the worker for the race you made this structure for and remove the harvest ability from their Abilities Abilities field and remove the button from the command card |
| 03:46.19 | Cobellanez | kk |
| 03:46.32 | ZarafFaraz | what kind of maps are you all working on? |
| 03:46.48 | Vail | i am working on a mod |
| 03:47.02 | HeyRevolver | Anyone know a good way to move the Text Crawl text position? |
| 03:47.44 | HeyRevolver | OH WORD? |
| 03:48.04 | Xackery | Word. |
| 03:48.19 | Xackery | Working on a hero survival Map, ZarafFaraz |
| 03:50.21 | HeyRevolver | Xackery I know you know how |
| 03:50.34 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 03:50.35 | arturusfury | i'm working on a zombie survivial map where you stay together or your die |
| 03:50.50 | Xackery | what |
| 03:50.59 | HeyRevolver | what? |
| 03:51.09 | Vail | what? |
| 03:51.11 | Xackery | you talking about text tags? |
| 03:51.11 | HeyRevolver | Anyone know a good way to move the Text Crawl text position? |
| 03:51.20 | HeyRevolver | it just shows up over the minimap |
| 03:51.24 | HeyRevolver | im all wtfizz |
| 03:51.30 | HeyRevolver | i trid putting it in a dialog |
| 03:51.33 | Xackery | not familiar with it |
| 03:51.38 | Xackery | I'm doing BORING WORK |
| 03:51.38 | HeyRevolver | but it still shws up over the minimap |
| 03:51.43 | HeyRevolver | OK SORRY |
| 03:51.45 | HeyRevolver | =X |
| 03:51.49 | Xackery | cleaning up buttons. :/ 36 custom buttons |
| 03:51.56 | Xackery | is made of fail time consumption boring monotomous work |
| 03:52.04 | HeyRevolver | Yes |
| 03:52.06 | HeyRevolver | yes it is |
| 03:52.15 | HeyRevolver | I have put off making the icons and weapons |
| 03:52.17 | Xackery | but people will stop bitching about it |
| 03:52.19 | Xackery | hopefully |
| 03:52.27 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 03:52.31 | Xackery | it's like |
| 03:52.38 | Vail | i have never been able to get custom icons to show in game |
| 03:52.44 | Xackery | WHO CARES IF the description says "Fires meh lazers". If shit dies, be happy |
| 03:52.59 | AsaPhelps | my custom icons work fine |
| 03:53.09 | Xackery | Custom icons pretty easy. Now making custom icons..... |
| 03:53.10 | Vail | hmm weird |
| 03:53.13 | Xackery | I need to find a sucker to do that for me! |
| 03:53.27 | AsaPhelps | i'm a sucker |
| 03:53.36 | Xackery | My icons are easy. |
| 03:53.38 | Xackery | They aren't even colored. |
| 03:53.44 | AsaPhelps | if you make me 50 towers and 30 or so waves |
| 03:53.45 | Xackery | But I have 36 custom skills. |
| 03:53.58 | AsaPhelps | i have like 15 with 5 levels each |
| 03:54.17 | Xackery | I have 36 with 5 levels each |
| 03:54.26 | Xackery | =180 XD |
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| 03:54.42 | HeyRevolver | my buttons say stuff like "Rob's Master Blaster. +20 Damage. "Who Run Barter town?" " |
| 03:54.51 | ZarafFaraz | what kind of mod you making? |
| 03:55.02 | AsaPhelps | my requirement for my passive is like "learn this noob" |
| 03:55.06 | Vail | i am making a Zerg Kicks Ass Mod |
| 03:55.06 | HeyRevolver | zone control/team deathmatch/survival |
| 03:55.07 | AsaPhelps | but its hidden so no one sees it |
| 03:55.11 | Xackery | My skills are like. Pew Pew: Fires 2 cross streaming lasers out of Odin's guns, dealing damage and healing him for the damage dealt. |
| 03:55.18 | HeyRevolver | with powerups, leveling, weapons, armor, implants and a bunch of other shi |
| 03:55.34 | ZarafFaraz | so what is the goal of your mod? what would it do exactly? |
| 03:55.49 | Xackery | It gives girls orgasms, ideally. |
| 03:55.53 | Xackery | but I'll resort to it just being addictive. |
| 03:56.05 | Xackery | :P |
| 03:56.11 | ZarafFaraz | well, my tongue does enough of that |
| 03:56.22 | Vail | i dont have a goal so much as a general vauge idea |
| 03:56.22 | Xackery | Oh yes, your tongue is very addictive. |
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| 03:56.45 | ZarafFaraz | has anyone here used the Set category units at all? |
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| 03:56.59 | Xackery | you mean set catagory on a unit? |
| 03:57.05 | ZarafFaraz | I can't get their models to appear when I place them on my map |
| 03:57.16 | Xackery | that'd be an actor issue, Zaraf. |
| 03:57.23 | ZarafFaraz | like there's units, heroes, destructibles, set, etc |
| 03:57.29 | ZarafFaraz | well, that's the weird thing |
| 03:57.31 | Xackery | make sure you add an event inside it's actor in regards to his birth |
| 03:57.36 | ZarafFaraz | the DEFAULT ones don't appear |
| 03:57.49 | Vail | i think they are placing UNDER the terrain |
| 03:57.50 | HeyRevolver | did youenable dependencies> |
| 03:58.01 | AsaPhelps | okay |
| 03:58.08 | ZarafFaraz | yeah, if I didn't have the dependencies, then they wouldn't appear in my list |
| 03:58.13 | AsaPhelps | i got a bug where when you join a map with custom icons for resources, say lumber, and gold |
| 03:58.19 | AsaPhelps | it changes the mineral/gas to those icons in any map |
| 03:58.31 | Xackery | Nice. Blizzard fail |
| 03:58.48 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 03:59.03 | Xackery | Egon is done, hrm. I guess Odin Next. |
| 03:59.48 | AsaPhelps | |
| 03:59.57 | AsaPhelps | look at this button, its so obnoxious |
| 04:00.11 | Xackery | indeed. |
| 04:00.20 | AsaPhelps | wait for it |
| 04:00.42 | ZarafFaraz | if you guys have the editor open, can you give it a try and see if it works for you? |
| 04:01.28 | Xackery | If what works? |
| 04:01.34 | Xackery | models appear when I place them on my map, yes. |
| 04:01.50 | ZarafFaraz | make sure you have the campaign dependencies, and try to place "TV - Donny Vermillion Set" |
| 04:02.10 | Xackery | Don't use that set if you are having actor issues. Or reload it and try again. |
| 04:02.12 | Xackery | *shrugs* |
| 04:02.14 | Cobellanez | How do I remove a weapon from a unit? |
| 04:02.24 | Xackery | Storymode actors are funkified anyways. |
| 04:02.29 | ZarafFaraz | Xackery, my question is, does it work for YOU? |
| 04:02.50 | ZarafFaraz | I just want to rule out that it's something "I" did |
| 04:02.56 | Xackery | Ah, then, you'll just be ignored by me. I only can reply/suggest answer questions, not test stuff atm. |
| 04:03.05 | Xackery | Since I am working on a map. |
| 04:03.06 | Vail | Cobellanez: go to that unit and go to its combat section and remove the weapon |
| 04:03.31 | Cobellanez | Thanks |
| 04:03.31 | ZarafFaraz | Xackery, do you have campaign dependencies in your map you're working on? |
| 04:03.36 | Cryosis | damn muta's |
| 04:03.51 | Xackery | I'll say no. |
| 04:04.32 | AsaPhelps | Xackery: |
| 04:04.40 | AsaPhelps | http://i33.tinypic.com/4zzwoj.jpg |
| 04:04.56 | Xackery | Hah, amusing. |
| 04:05.06 | Xackery | the blue hurts my eye in the description though. |
| 04:05.15 | AsaPhelps | its part of the strategy |
| 04:07.03 | HeyRevolver | Derek Foreal.. Derek fucking Foreal. There, are ya happy? |
| 04:07.42 | HeyRevolver | It's trivia night |
| 04:07.47 | HeyRevolver | What movie is that quote from |
| 04:07.58 | HeyRevolver | What quote is that movie from |
| 04:08.02 | HeyRevolver | I'm lydesic |
| 04:08.44 | HeyRevolver | lysdexic |
| 04:12.40 | HeyRevolver | I EMBARASS MYSELF |
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| 04:14.52 | ShadowTiger | i found a really annoying restriction in SC2 that was patched in |
| 04:15.15 | onetwo | hit me |
| 04:15.30 | Otixa | hits onetwo |
| 04:15.34 | ShadowTiger | units that cant move cant cast AOE spells that target the ground (like psi storm) |
| 04:15.42 | onetwo | weird |
| 04:15.57 | ShadowTiger | do you think its a bug? |
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| 04:16.40 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 04:16.58 | onetwo | no idea |
| 04:17.07 | onetwo | but i do agree with you that ckknight sucks |
| 04:17.11 | onetwo | its jsut so obvious! |
| 04:17.23 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [-v onetwo] by ckknight |
| 04:17.29 | onetwo | thats ok |
| 04:17.33 | onetwo | i never did use voice! |
| 04:17.56 | ckknight | who are you? |
| 04:18.07 | Otixa | Your mum |
| 04:18.10 | Otixa | ;D |
| 04:18.11 | onetwo | the best |
| 04:18.38 | Saeris | hmmmmm |
| 04:18.42 | Saeris | sup all |
| 04:19.00 | Otixa | stabs Saeris with a rib |
| 04:19.25 | Vail | well night all |
| 04:19.36 | Otixa | stabs Vail|Gone |
| 04:19.39 | Otixa | Bai2u2 |
| 04:19.54 | Vail|Gone | cant be stabbed as is gone |
| 04:20.06 | Otixa | hax |
| 04:20.09 | Otixa | Nerf >:[ |
| 04:20.47 | onetwo | forever 12 |
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| 04:21.36 | Otixa | Nowai |
| 04:21.53 | Otixa | Also, help me do the ad for the custom map tournaments |
| 04:21.54 | Otixa | >:[ |
| 04:21.59 | onetwo | ad? |
| 04:22.02 | onetwo | what ad? |
| 04:22.03 | Otixa | Yarr |
| 04:22.07 | Otixa | We're gonna be teh pro |
| 04:22.19 | Otixa | Just doing a short ad for the tournaments |
| 04:22.24 | Saeris | hmmm, what map is up next for the tournaments? |
| 04:22.24 | Otixa | Might help people get the fuck into it |
| 04:22.32 | Otixa | nexus wars, I think |
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| 04:23.10 | Saeris | zZz |
| 04:23.15 | Atlos | rawr |
| 04:23.19 | onetwo | atlos |
| 04:23.23 | Atlos | hihi |
| 04:23.28 | onetwo | hi |
| 04:23.28 | Saeris | well, i won't be in that one then, lol |
| 04:23.35 | Saeris | hate nexus wars >.< |
| 04:23.41 | onetwo | i played it once |
| 04:23.46 | onetwo | . |
| 04:24.09 | Otixa | It's fine |
| 04:24.11 | Otixa | l2p |
| 04:24.26 | Saeris | not even that i don't know how to play |
| 04:24.31 | Atlos | hmm, has anybody had their teeth filed down? |
| 04:24.37 | Atlos | im wondering if it's a painful procedure lol |
| 04:24.38 | Otixa | build shit > ??? > win |
| 04:24.44 | onetwo | just like you morally filed down this channel atlos? |
| 04:24.45 | onetwo | hmmm |
| 04:24.45 | Saeris | it's really low quality, slow, and boring |
| 04:24.46 | onetwo | ? |
| 04:24.58 | Atlos | :( |
| 04:25.00 | Otixa | Atlos, dad has |
| 04:25.05 | Saeris | not really tournament material, imo. just far too widely played |
| 04:25.06 | onetwo | ckknight give me back +!! |
| 04:25.22 | Otixa | He said it's like getting stabbed in the nerves with a screwdriver :P |
| 04:25.22 | ckknight | why? |
| 04:25.31 | Atlos | fuuuu, really? |
| 04:25.38 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 04:25.43 | onetwo | cause im a helper :D |
| 04:25.44 | Atlos | uggh, lol |
| 04:25.45 | ckknight | I don't know who you are or who gave you +v, onetwo |
| 04:25.46 | ckknight | :P |
| 04:25.51 | onetwo | are you being a bum |
| 04:25.52 | ckknight | and you insult me when I enter\ |
| 04:25.53 | Otixa | Speaking of which |
| 04:25.54 | onetwo | or are you being serious |
| 04:25.56 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:26.00 | Otixa | Gotta go to teh dentist in liek 3 hours |
| 04:26.06 | onetwo | 12 am? |
| 04:26.12 | onetwo | russian dentist |
| 04:26.16 | Otixa | Not sure |
| 04:26.23 | Otixa | I forgot when I booked it ._. |
| 04:26.31 | Otixa | So I'm gonna call in an hour or so to check ;/ |
| 04:26.37 | onetwo | onetwo am |
| 04:26.38 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:26.42 | Otixa | lawl |
| 04:26.43 | onetwo | well anyway |
| 04:26.47 | onetwo | ill have to bug sixen to add it back later |
| 04:26.48 | onetwo | i guess |
| 04:26.48 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:26.56 | onetwo | hes got my back |
| 04:27.00 | onetwo | UNLIKE SOME PEOPLEEE |
| 04:27.05 | onetwo | :D |
| 04:27.08 | Otixa | I got your back |
| 04:27.12 | onetwo | and otixa |
| 04:27.12 | Otixa | backstabs onetwo |
| 04:27.17 | onetwo | nope |
| 04:27.17 | Otixa | ;D |
| 04:27.20 | onetwo | i wear a mirror |
| 04:27.33 | Otixa | Mirrors aren't dagger proof >:[ |
| 04:27.40 | onetwo | so youll see yourself in it and then realize the countless hours you wasted and then go change your life |
| 04:27.50 | Atlos | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.53 | Otixa | What life? :D |
| 04:27.54 | onetwo | and become a multimillionaire stockbroker |
| 04:28.00 | onetwo | haha atlos |
| 04:28.08 | onetwo | i will find you |
| 04:28.21 | Atlos | lol "[00:25] <@ckknight> I don't know who you are or who gave you +v, onetwo" reminded me of that |
| 04:28.42 | Otixa | :D |
| 04:28.45 | onetwo | haha |
| 04:28.50 | Saeris | mmmmm |
| 04:28.52 | Saeris | i wanna do work |
| 04:28.59 | Saeris | but i'm gonna be leaving in like |
| 04:29.01 | Saeris | an hour |
| 04:29.04 | Saeris | to go get hammered |
| 04:29.17 | Atlos | hammered ftw |
| 04:29.17 | Saeris | sigh |
| 04:29.23 | Otixa | Cake tiems? |
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| 04:29.42 | Saeris | guess i'll go and scrounge around the WoW files for aura animations |
| 04:29.55 | Atlos | you can make me a dark swarm and hallucination ability :P |
| 04:30.14 | Saeris | still needa find out if I'm allowed to use assets from other blizzard games in a contest entry map |
| 04:30.23 | Saeris | it wasn't exactly covered in the rules |
| 04:30.25 | Atlos | since my map is like 99% complete without those abilities :( |
| 04:30.31 | Saeris | they only mentioned music |
| 04:30.56 | Otixa | Saeris, make your own assets, you lazy hobo >:[ |
| 04:31.01 | Atlos | what is this log into your sc account before using the editor BS |
| 04:31.06 | Atlos | I can't make maps if I don't have internet? |
| 04:31.10 | Saeris | i'm not any good at it =( |
| 04:31.40 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 04:31.49 | Saeris | until i get the majority of this project done, I can't really spare the time to learn something like that atm |
| 04:32.14 | Otixa | sells assets |
| 04:32.15 | Otixa | :D |
| 04:32.55 | Fromethius | anyone online US wanna play island defense? we're 8/12 |
| 04:34.42 | Cryosis | sure from |
| 04:34.43 | Trager|546|US | Fromethius! You owe me code! |
| 04:34.51 | Fromethius | hm? |
| 04:34.55 | Fromethius | for what? i forget |
| 04:35.01 | dukka | what a meanie |
| 04:35.06 | Trager|546|US | lol |
| 04:35.11 | Fromethius | oh it was trigger stuff right? |
| 04:35.17 | Fromethius | here dukka here boy |
| 04:35.21 | Fromethius | fix trager's problem |
| 04:35.21 | dukka | uggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg |
| 04:35.31 | Trager|546|US | if all players are on the same team, end game in victory |
| 04:35.47 | Cryosis | from? |
| 04:35.53 | Trager|546|US | for whatever reason I can't figure out how to do this |
| 04:36.00 | Fromethius | i sent you an invite crosis |
| 04:36.02 | Fromethius | cryosis* |
| 04:36.09 | Cryosis | resend |
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| 04:36.54 | Cryosis | is not there |
| 04:37.23 | Cryosis | Fromethius: ! |
| 04:37.26 | Fromethius | ugh |
| 04:37.33 | Fromethius | waiting the 3000 minute wait time for people to stop pending |
| 04:37.36 | Fromethius | so i can invite you |
| 04:37.42 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:38.18 | Fromethius | invite sent to both cryosis and heyrevolver |
| 04:38.21 | Fromethius | yay full game |
| 04:38.33 | Cryosis | invite still not showing up |
| 04:38.48 | Cryosis | cancel it and I will just join the room |
| 04:39.10 | Tinman | you there Xaragoth? |
| 04:39.21 | Xaragoth | yeah |
| 04:39.26 | Xaragoth | working on stuff, what is it? |
| 04:40.13 | casperb | Hmm |
| 04:40.38 | casperb | Anyone want to make an abe's oddesy style co-op platformer in galaxy editor? :P |
| 04:40.41 | casperb | it's feasable |
| 04:40.46 | casperb | actually rather easy |
| 04:41.07 | casperb | but got other stuff to do, but still want to play one! :p |
| 04:43.36 | Xackery | Heh heh. |
| 04:43.48 | Zanam | anyone know a good program for converting an image to 16-bit color |
| 04:44.11 | Xackery | that mindset casper is why after I finish my map, I want to create a mod. A mod that others can plug in and make RPGs.. Give them the tools to start, and see what sprouts! |
| 04:44.44 | Xackery | If I find any other good mods already built, I may just build upon theirs though... Thus far, haven't seen too many noteworthy ones. |
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| 04:49.34 | casperb | The only hurdle is platforms, which is doable just not very clean :p |
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| 04:51.23 | LOLOLOL | HAI. |
| 04:52.26 | LOLOLOL | . . . . |
| 04:52.33 | casperb | IT's a trollolol? |
| 04:52.53 | casperb | ya ya yaaaah |
| 04:52.58 | casperb | yayaaa ya ya yaa ooaaaa |
| 04:53.32 | Trager|546|US | ~seen PapaRoach |
| 04:53.33 | purl | paparoach is currently on #sc2mapster (6h 29m 41s). Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 1h 7m 46s, last said: 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI'. |
| 04:53.41 | PapaRoach | .... |
| 04:53.47 | Trager|546|US | oh hai |
| 04:53.50 | Mindful | LOL |
| 04:54.22 | Trager|546|US | I just added range upgrades, care to see how broken they are? |
| 04:54.33 | LOLOLOL | What's the range? |
| 04:54.45 | Trager|546|US | starts at 5, can get up to 10 |
| 04:54.50 | LOLOLOL | Eh. |
| 04:54.52 | LOLOLOL | What weapon? |
| 04:54.57 | LOLOLOL | For what unit |
| 04:54.58 | PapaRoach | h/o im playing the titan in fromes game |
| 04:55.08 | Trager|546|US | marine's weapon |
| 04:55.09 | Trager|546|US | k |
| 04:55.15 | LOLOLOL | Eh. |
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| 04:56.28 | TheQuacKanator | :DDDDDDDDDDDDD |
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| 04:58.02 | Trager|546|US | In every irc that I've been been on, there's always someone named LOLOLOL |
| 04:58.51 | TheQuacKanator | It's a random name people use. |
| 04:58.58 | Trager|546|US | orly? |
| 04:59.05 | TheQuacKanator | I would think. |
| 04:59.09 | Trager|546|US | quack |
| 04:59.10 | TheQuacKanator | I've used it before. |
| 04:59.16 | Trager|546|US | case in point |
| 04:59.25 | TheQuacKanator | . . . . |
| 04:59.46 | TheQuacKanator | Are you guys doing that Blizzard UMS map making thingy? |
| 04:59.51 | Trager|546|US | nope |
| 05:00.05 | Trager|546|US | I'm too cool for that |
| 05:00.09 | Trager|546|US | and too out of the loop |
| 05:00.09 | TheQuacKanator | Do you make UMS maps? |
| 05:00.10 | onetwo | nope |
| 05:00.14 | onetwo | to your first Q |
| 05:00.15 | TheQuacKanator | Ah. |
| 05:00.31 | TheQuacKanator | YOu shouldn't! |
| 05:00.39 | TheQuacKanator | And I'm only saying that so the chances of me winning are greater! |
| 05:00.40 | TheQuacKanator | :D |
| 05:00.41 | TheQuacKanator | JK. |
| 05:00.44 | TheQuacKanator | I'm not either. |
| 05:01.16 | TheQuacKanator | So guess what map I"m gonna make soon.. |
| 05:01.20 | Atlos | hmm, this is odd |
| 05:01.27 | Atlos | I can't select a value to input |
| 05:01.32 | Atlos | for displaying a text message? |
| 05:01.39 | Atlos | it only lets me select player group |
| 05:01.44 | TheQuacKanator | You guyssssssssssss. |
| 05:01.45 | Atlos | oh wait |
| 05:02.07 | TheQuacKanator | YOu guyssssssssssssssssss aren't going to guess? |
| 05:02.13 | Atlos | heh got it |
| 05:02.28 | TheQuacKanator | >_________> |
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| 05:03.32 | TheQuacKanator | Hellloooooo? |
| 05:03.37 | Trager|546|US | Duck Wars? |
| 05:03.53 | TheQuacKanator | !_! |
| 05:03.53 | TheQuacKanator | Good idea.... |
| 05:03.54 | TheQuacKanator | Maybe later. |
| 05:03.57 | TheQuacKanator | But nope. |
| 05:04.07 | TheQuacKanator | It's an old UMS BroodWar Game. |
| 05:04.24 | Zanam | is there a hardcoded max string length? that would be answering a befuddling problem i'm having |
| 05:05.56 | TheQuacKanator | You guys are horrible at guessing.. >_> |
| 05:06.42 | Fromethius | anyone online US want to play island defense? the lobby is half full |
| 05:06.58 | TheQuacKanator | Goodbye! |
| 05:07.02 | TheQuacKanator | I shall make you ugys wait! |
| 05:08.06 | Fromethius | island defense (US) needs 4 more people! anyone interested in joining? |
| 05:08.55 | Cryosis | I'm waiting |
| 05:09.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tinman (~bjodeh@194.69.212.184) |
| 05:09.46 | Fromethius | invite sent |
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| 05:13.43 | sugoi | Fromethius: hi,thanks for the invite, but i'm about to go to bed |
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| 05:15.12 | corbo | hey |
| 05:15.21 | corbo | how to make streetlight ons by default? |
| 05:15.49 | corbo | on* |
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| 05:16.57 | Walshie824 | there is 4 types of street lights |
| 05:17.06 | Walshie824 | 2 are on 2 are off |
| 05:17.35 | Walshie824 | you cannot switch lights off, its build into the models :P |
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| 05:24.54 | Trager|546|US | PapaRoach: that was terrible |
| 05:25.24 | PapaRoach | ? |
| 05:26.26 | Trager|546|US | how overpowered it was |
| 05:28.40 | PapaRoach | yeah |
| 05:29.20 | Atlos | ok, lets see how bad I suck with the data editor |
| 05:29.25 | Atlos | I'm going to attempt to make an ability |
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| 05:33.18 | Tordecybombo | is en and gb the same |
| 05:33.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster Walshie824 (7ca8f258@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.168.242.88) |
| 05:33.42 | Tordecybombo | i mean enUS and enGB |
| 05:33.59 | Tordecybombo | one's us and the other is eu but do i have to localize them |
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| 05:36.45 | onetwo | yes |
| 05:36.49 | onetwo | otherwise itll be blank in the other |
| 05:36.51 | onetwo | one |
| 05:36.54 | onetwo | i believe |
| 05:37.27 | LordAbyss | im bored |
| 05:37.30 | LordAbyss | anyone wanna 1v1? |
| 05:37.44 | HeyRevolver | How do you specify where a text crawl appears? |
| 05:37.58 | LordAbyss | you know you want to 1v1 me onetwo |
| 05:38.08 | onetwo | im going out soon :( |
| 05:38.14 | LordAbyss | ill make it fast |
| 05:38.15 | LordAbyss | then |
| 05:38.17 | LordAbyss | ;) |
| 05:38.43 | HeyRevolver | onetwo do you know how to specify where a text crawl appears? |
| 05:39.04 | onetwo | i dont even know what that is |
| 05:39.05 | onetwo | :( |
| 05:39.09 | HeyRevolver | oh |
| 05:39.16 | HeyRevolver | when it types out text on the screen |
| 05:39.19 | HeyRevolver | like an alert kinda |
| 05:39.28 | Tordecybombo | i dont get it |
| 05:39.31 | Tordecybombo | what exactly is EU |
| 05:39.35 | HeyRevolver | europe |
| 05:39.37 | Tordecybombo | which one should i pic |
| 05:39.37 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 05:39.42 | Tordecybombo | i know it's europe |
| 05:39.43 | Tordecybombo | >_> |
| 05:39.49 | Tordecybombo | which localization should i pick |
| 05:39.54 | Tordecybombo | there's like 5 EU ones |
| 05:40.01 | Tordecybombo | im guessing enGB |
| 05:40.15 | Xaax | Okay, so I made a weapon item and when it is equipped it is displayed as it should be in the little frame where you would normally see an armor icon and weapon icon on a normal unit (Marine for example), however when I equip an armor item I don't see it displayed there. And I notice there is no Armor+ field for items, so anyone know how I can make it show up? |
| 05:40.41 | HeyRevolver | make a new class |
| 05:40.46 | HeyRevolver | of item |
| 05:40.48 | Xaax | Did that. |
| 05:40.57 | Xaax | Item class: ArmorClass. |
| 05:40.58 | HeyRevolver | so in your equipemtn container |
| 05:41.08 | HeyRevolver | didyou specify what slot was armorclass? |
| 05:41.12 | Xaax | I'm not concerned about that. |
| 05:41.22 | Xaax | I mean in the unit frame in the middle of the screen. |
| 05:41.25 | HeyRevolver | So your issue is with the icon? |
| 05:41.38 | Xaax | No. |
| 05:41.52 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 05:42.02 | Xaax | Lemme 'splain better or at least try to. |
| 05:42.24 | Xaax | Okay, you know when you select a marine in the game you see his armor and weapon icon, right? |
| 05:42.34 | Xaax | Just a regular marine, no modifications or anything. |
| 05:42.35 | HeyRevolver | yeah and the icon for the amror isnt showing up |
| 05:42.42 | Xaax | Right. |
| 05:42.47 | HeyRevolver | right so your issue is with the icon |
| 05:42.50 | Xaax | It has nothing to do with the inventory. |
| 05:43.02 | Otixa | l2p! |
| 05:43.02 | Atlos | damn why does SC2 lag so much compared to sc1 lol |
| 05:43.05 | Atlos | don't tell me the obvious |
| 05:43.10 | HeyRevolver | you need to make sure that you have every icon field set to the same icon |
| 05:43.19 | HeyRevolver | for the actor, item, model, weapon, button, everything |
| 05:43.25 | Tordecybombo | great now i cant localize |
| 05:43.26 | Tordecybombo | how do you localize |
| 05:43.35 | Tordecybombo | sc2 localizer keeps giving me errors :/ |
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| 05:45.21 | Fromethius | anyone online US want to play island defense? we need 4 more people |
| 05:46.05 | Xaragoth | have run into a problem here ... no idea why, but my search area effect doesn't want to work with my weapon :O any ideas? |
| 05:46.19 | HeyRevolver | remake it from scratch |
| 05:46.22 | Xackery | maybe peek as kaiser blade for an example xara |
| 05:46.25 | Xackery | *at |
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| 05:47.48 | HeyRevolver | roacj |
| 05:48.01 | PapaRoacj | ? |
| 05:48.08 | PapaRoacj | oh |
| 05:48.10 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 05:48.14 | PapaRoacj | what the rename comand |
| 05:48.20 | HeyRevolver | . /nick |
| 05:48.34 | HeyRevolver | w/o the . |
| 05:48.36 | PapaRoacj | >=( |
| 05:48.45 | HeyRevolver | type /nick PapaRoach |
| 05:48.47 | PapaRoacj | says paparoach is already in use |
| 05:48.49 | HeyRevolver | oh |
| 05:48.50 | PapaRoacj | hold on |
| 05:48.55 | Tordecybombo | some say my name |
| 05:48.59 | Tordecybombo | say my username |
| 05:49.03 | Tordecybombo | just do it quick!! |
| 05:49.09 | HeyRevolver | Ballshound McGee |
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| 05:49.25 | HeyRevolver | Yeah dude theres another paparoach |
| 05:49.32 | PapaRoach_ | wtf |
| 05:49.37 | PapaRoach_ | its probably me lagged out |
| 05:49.40 | HeyRevolver | you got a ghosty |
| 05:49.48 | HeyRevolver | it happens on IRC |
| 05:49.54 | HeyRevolver | its all the 1337sp34k |
| 05:49.54 | PapaRoach_ | fails >.> |
| 05:49.59 | PapaRoach_ | lol |
| 05:50.04 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 05:50.36 | PapaRoach_ | lol |
| 05:50.51 | ZarafFaraz | did it kick you? |
| 05:51.02 | Otixa | Your face |
| 05:51.06 | Dogmai | does anyone know how you can convert an integer into timeofday |
| 05:51.10 | Otixa | is bored ;/ |
| 05:51.53 | ZarafFaraz | Dogmai, in SC2 editor? |
| 05:52.22 | Nash|327 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5N5kvUG514 |
| 05:52.28 | Nash|327 | new video :G |
| 05:52.31 | Xackery | yay hard mode is hard, medium is medium, easy is easy. |
| 05:52.42 | onetwo | watching |
| 05:52.51 | HeyRevolver | highfives Otixia |
| 05:53.00 | HeyRevolver | oops |
| 05:53.03 | HeyRevolver | Otixa* |
| 05:53.08 | Xaax | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100813145404AAqogxh |
| 05:53.19 | Otixa | HeyRevolver, wai? :o |
| 05:53.29 | ZarafFaraz | hey onetwo, are you the one who made a few of those video tutorials? |
| 05:53.32 | Xaragoth | god |
| 05:53.32 | Otixa | Nash|327, I fail to see my intro video in there >:[ |
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| 05:53.44 | Xaragoth | one of those bugs, that are just not easy to find |
| 05:53.45 | Tordecybombo | this is a pain' |
| 05:53.46 | HeyRevolver | Otixa, why not? |
| 05:53.55 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 05:53.58 | Xaragoth | seems the 360° area wasn't what it liked |
| 05:54.00 | Otixa | highfives HeyRevolver |
| 05:54.03 | Xaragoth | it wanted a damn 270° one |
| 05:54.07 | HeyRevolver | WOOOOOO |
| 05:54.08 | Nash|327 | onoes D: |
| 05:54.09 | onetwo | yeah i made a few of them |
| 05:54.20 | onetwo | i mean all of them |
| 05:54.51 | Atlos | ugh |
| 05:54.52 | Nash|327 | would've added your intro if I had thought of it :G |
| 05:54.57 | Atlos | can anyone help me make this ability lol |
| 05:54.58 | Atlos | I failed |
| 05:55.00 | Otixa | stabs Nash|327 |
| 05:55.04 | Atlos | I got it so that the range indicator works |
| 05:55.07 | Atlos | but when I go to use it |
| 05:55.09 | Atlos | nothing happens |
| 05:55.15 | Atlos | it doesn't create my model or anything |
| 05:55.35 | th15 | wow |
| 05:55.39 | th15 | whoever did the zerlging wars map |
| 05:55.51 | th15 | desperately needs to learn that geometric progressions get stupid fast |
| 05:55.53 | ZarafFaraz | onetwo, have you tried using "Set" category units yet? |
| 05:56.10 | onetwo | set units? |
| 05:56.12 | onetwo | or set effects? |
| 05:56.25 | ZarafFaraz | in Units, there are different categories like Units, Heroes, Destructibles, etc |
| 05:56.30 | ZarafFaraz | one of them is "Set" |
| 05:56.36 | Atlos | a set is for cinematics I think |
| 05:56.38 | ZarafFaraz | it seems like stuff used for the in-game cinematics |
| 05:56.44 | ZarafFaraz | yeah |
| 05:56.54 | ZarafFaraz | now I want to make a small cinematic using a few units from there |
| 05:57.04 | Atlos | if you use the campaign dependency there's a ton of Sets |
| 05:57.05 | ZarafFaraz | but most of them don't have their models show up when I place them on the field |
| 05:57.23 | ZarafFaraz | and it's not even the weird white sphere....it's just "nothing" |
| 05:57.37 | ZarafFaraz | yet the unit is there, since I can drag select it |
| 05:58.06 | HeyRevolver | actors |
| 05:58.09 | ZarafFaraz | now I want to know if this is something that only "I" am experiencing or if this is something with everyone |
| 05:58.21 | ZarafFaraz | cause the thing is, these are not duplicated units I'm trying to use |
| 05:58.25 | ZarafFaraz | it's the default generic ones |
| 05:59.28 | ZarafFaraz | for example, when I place the unit "TV - Donny Vermillion" on my map, then it DOES appear. However, "TV - Donny Vermillion Set" does NOT appear |
| 05:59.47 | Xaragoth | its below the damn terrain |
| 05:59.58 | ZarafFaraz | oh really? |
| 06:00.02 | onetwo | hmm weird |
| 06:00.05 | onetwo | i havent used set stuff |
| 06:00.06 | Xaragoth | ya'rly |
| 06:00.12 | ZarafFaraz | hmm...lemme see if I can raise it and see if that works |
| 06:00.37 | Xaragoth | and for the 1000x fucking time, change its actor or be intelligent and use the previewer for everything all-together, because its more awesome to have scene files up |
| 06:00.49 | Nash|327 | so what does it take to get your map pimped on the site :o |
| 06:00.52 | Atlos | damn, I screwed up a bunch of units when duplicating them |
| 06:01.01 | Atlos | I thought I didn't have to copy the soudns and models over... |
| 06:01.02 | ZarafFaraz | you can create cinematics using the previewer? |
| 06:01.02 | Xaragoth | a good review |
| 06:01.07 | Xaragoth | or a livestream |
| 06:01.12 | Xaragoth | if you're actually capable, yes, you can |
| 06:01.13 | Atlos | now it doesn't show their attack models/sound |
| 06:01.15 | Atlos | wtf |
| 06:01.38 | Xaragoth | i'm doing my whole blizzcon machinima entry with it |
| 06:02.07 | Atlos | and when are the forums going to be fixed, they are terrible for usability |
| 06:02.13 | Atlos | I complained back in like april lol |
| 06:02.26 | Xaragoth | as soon as my pitchfork is repaired |
| 06:02.29 | Xaragoth | poked vjeux to often |
| 06:02.33 | Xaragoth | he kinda ruined it |
| 06:02.40 | Xaragoth | I shall poke him with a nuclear missile next |
| 06:02.41 | onetwo | "let me just click on this thread" "wtf im on the end of page 4" |
| 06:02.41 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 06:02.43 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:03.04 | Otixa | kicks Xaragoth |
| 06:03.06 | Atlos | lol or let me keep track of this topic |
| 06:03.14 | Atlos | oh wait I can't because I can't view my last posts |
| 06:03.16 | Atlos | or created threads |
| 06:03.23 | Atlos | and I forgot to bookmark/tab the thread |
| 06:03.25 | Xaragoth | rolls his cute Baneling at Otixa. |
| 06:03.29 | Xaragoth | he wants to be hugged! |
| 06:03.35 | Otixa | stabs the baneling |
| 06:03.37 | Otixa | >:[ |
| 06:03.48 | Xaragoth | sees Otixa being blown skyhigh! |
| 06:04.01 | Fromethius | anyone online US want to play island defense? we need 4 more |
| 06:04.14 | Xaragoth | actually, I should probably quit on my german mapping page and go for mapster |
| 06:04.21 | Xaragoth | my brain is wasted on a 50 person forum |
| 06:04.39 | Xaragoth | there's a shitload of features that are wasted by being build into our page >> |
| 06:05.19 | Otixa | Your face is wasted >:Z |
| 06:05.46 | Otixa | Gonna go get coffee or someshit |
| 06:05.53 | Otixa | disappears |
| 06:07.02 | Xaragoth | he should hope I never can stab vjeux enough to get op |
| 06:07.08 | Xaragoth | i'm pure evil |
| 06:07.14 | Xaragoth | hand me a stick and I poke you. |
| 06:08.32 | HeyRevolver | hands Otixa a stick |
| 06:09.11 | Nash|327 | Tordecybombo :o |
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| 06:20.43 | ZarafFaraz | hmm...looking at some sample scene files from the campaign....making cinematics in the Previewer seems pretty damn complicated O_o |
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| 06:23.13 | Otixa | beats Xaragoth with a stick |
| 06:23.42 | Xaragoth | takes Otixas stick and breaks it. |
| 06:23.44 | Xaragoth | Ha! |
| 06:24.03 | Otixa | stabs Xaragoth with a dagger |
| 06:24.10 | Xaragoth | ZarafFaraz, actually its not that hard. |
| 06:24.18 | Xaragoth | You just need to get the hang of it. |
| 06:24.37 | Xaragoth | And you can't do anything Blizz hasn't build in without 3ds max, but well, it happens |
| 06:24.51 | Xolsom | Isn't that the same with anything? :o |
| 06:24.55 | ZarafFaraz | hmm |
| 06:25.02 | ZarafFaraz | can I add a camera to the previewer? |
| 06:25.36 | ZarafFaraz | my cinematic is fairly simple...just a single stationary camera |
| 06:25.41 | Xaragoth | only cameras that already exist |
| 06:25.51 | Xaragoth | use the testcam in that case |
| 06:25.53 | Xaragoth | StoryModeCameras |
| 06:25.54 | ZarafFaraz | but I'm currently trying to animate the character correctly |
| 06:25.56 | ZarafFaraz | ok |
| 06:26.17 | ZarafFaraz | and to make the characters have their mouths move, I need to attach some kind of sound file? |
| 06:27.57 | Xaragoth | yes |
| 06:28.05 | Xaragoth | facial & soundfile |
| 06:28.08 | Xaragoth | without it won't move, sadly |
| 06:28.13 | Xaragoth | +it |
| 06:29.12 | Otixa | facial, lol :D |
| 06:29.25 | Xolsom | Is the mouth moving accordingly to the sound? Otherwise you could just create an empty soundfile, could you? |
| 06:29.59 | ZarafFaraz | can I just attach any sound file to it and mute the sound so that no speech occurs but the character "talks"? |
| 06:31.01 | Otixa | Or you could get a 5$ mic ;P |
| 06:31.46 | Xaragoth | yeah |
| 06:32.11 | Otixa | Yanno |
| 06:32.16 | Xaragoth | though it has internal recording, but since my editor has no sound, it doesn't record it |
| 06:32.20 | Otixa | Picking music for an ad is hard work ¬_¬ |
| 06:32.34 | Xaragoth | what are you building anyways? |
| 06:32.40 | Xaragoth | custom map tournamet stuff wasn't it? |
| 06:32.44 | Otixa | Yar |
| 06:33.27 | Otixa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2p_X1g-z5w&feature=search |
| 06:33.31 | Otixa | Think imma use this |
| 06:33.38 | Otixa | skip to 0:20 |
| 06:35.00 | Xaragoth | hrm |
| 06:35.06 | ZarafFaraz | hey Otixa, what genre of music is this called? |
| 06:35.19 | jorgenpt | Anyone up for Island Defense? |
| 06:35.24 | Otixa | Choir and orcestra |
| 06:35.26 | SycoPrime | Anyone have any idea why my basic (followed an example) health kit isn't removing charges on use even though Count (Use) = 1 in DE? |
| 06:35.26 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 06:35.27 | jorgenpt | Hmm |
| 06:35.30 | jorgenpt | Nevermind, I'm gonna go to bed :) |
| 06:35.32 | ZarafFaraz | I've always been looking for stuff like this, and I can never find it |
| 06:35.42 | Xaragoth | i'd suggest using Two Steps From Hell |
| 06:35.48 | Xaragoth | Immediate Music is really overused |
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| 06:36.16 | Otixa | Thing is |
| 06:36.24 | Otixa | I need it to match the style of the animation |
| 06:36.33 | Otixa | And something which I can time the animation to |
| 06:36.39 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRLdhFVzqt4#t=0m30s |
| 06:36.48 | Xaragoth | what about that one? |
| 06:37.03 | Xolsom | http://www.last.fm/music/Immediate+Music/+similar |
| 06:37.09 | Otixa | lessee |
| 06:37.17 | Xolsom | There are some nice artists :P |
| 06:37.22 | Otixa | it fails to load ¬_¬ |
| 06:37.34 | Otixa | oh |
| 06:37.36 | Otixa | thar we go |
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| 06:37.56 | Otixa | Seems too slow for now |
| 06:38.08 | Otixa | bookmarks |
| 06:38.15 | Otixa | Not the style I'm looking for |
| 06:38.16 | Xaragoth | it goes fast around 1m |
| 06:38.25 | Otixa | But I'm deff gonna use it for something in the future |
| 06:38.44 | Xaragoth | blizz contest is annoying me |
| 06:38.51 | Xaragoth | I so want to use 'Shoot To Kill' |
| 06:38.53 | Xaragoth | and I can't -.- |
| 06:39.01 | Otixa | :D |
| 06:39.34 | Otixa | kills everyone younger than 18 on the planet |
| 06:39.35 | Otixa | Fix'd |
| 06:39.45 | Xaragoth | maybe you should look for something from DMC or Darksiders |
| 06:39.53 | Xaragoth | they got some real nice music in their soundtrack |
| 06:39.57 | Otixa | Yeah |
| 06:39.57 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut8k0L9Y5kM |
| 06:40.00 | Xaragoth | what about this one? |
| 06:40.01 | Otixa | But it's mostly too fast |
| 06:40.05 | Xaragoth | sandstorm is one of my favorites |
| 06:40.10 | Otixa | clicks |
| 06:41.51 | Otixa | Yeah, not gonna work |
| 06:41.52 | Otixa | :/ |
| 06:41.57 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2eHeTeomRM |
| 06:42.08 | Xaragoth | also, there is "I, Mengsk" from the official SC2 soundtrack |
| 06:42.11 | Xaragoth | that one has some good stuff |
| 06:42.12 | Otixa | I'll make a draft WIP render later today |
| 06:42.19 | Otixa | So you can see what the style of the video is |
| 06:42.30 | Xaragoth | yeah, maybe I've something up my sleeves |
| 06:42.33 | Xaragoth | that will fit |
| 06:42.50 | Xaragoth | what saddens me |
| 06:42.56 | Xaragoth | TSFH is used in Twilight |
| 06:43.11 | Xaragoth | its WASTED for that junk, really |
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| 06:43.25 | LEaderboard | Hi everyone ! |
| 06:43.28 | vjeux | well, that'll give them fame :) |
| 06:43.37 | Otixa | hai2u2 |
| 06:43.42 | Xaragoth | vjeux |
| 06:43.47 | Xaragoth | I shall proceed stabbing you. |
| 06:43.49 | Otixa | vjeux, you smell :P |
| 06:43.52 | Xaragoth | Why? Cause I can! |
| 06:44.00 | Otixa | Xaragoth, this is awesome btw |
| 06:44.00 | Otixa | ;D |
| 06:44.13 | vjeux | being in a blockbuster is an awesome opportunity to develop |
| 06:44.19 | Xaragoth | actually |
| 06:44.23 | Xaragoth | they did some stuff for pirates |
| 06:44.29 | Xaragoth | so what would they need twilight for? |
| 06:44.43 | Xaragoth | i'd refuse to get in contact with it |
| 06:44.55 | Xaragoth | if someone ever asked me to do "Twilight - The Game", I'd probably be arrested |
| 06:45.01 | Xaragoth | for trying to kill the person that offered it. |
| 06:45.30 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0YDcQCOhZ4 |
| 06:45.31 | Otixa | My fists are known for causing facial discomfort :> |
| 06:45.53 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6KilO_AiZU <- one of my favorites, when i'm in the mood for some slow stuff |
| 06:45.56 | Dogmai | vjeux, do you know how to convert an integer into timeofday |
| 06:46.14 | vjeux | nop |
| 06:46.37 | Xolsom | Guys I need an opinion.. is it worth creating a new 'Nexus Wars' from scratch to well.. have one which listens to the community and would be actively updated in EU and US and whatever else there is? |
| 06:46.38 | Dogmai | I don't think it can be done, I have been looking into it for a few hours |
| 06:46.55 | Xaragoth | Xolsom: No. |
| 06:47.00 | Xaragoth | We don't need 20 of these ^^ |
| 06:47.07 | Xaragoth | Think of something else which we still need |
| 06:47.14 | Otixa | Xaragoth, need something with the same sort of tempo and beat as Liberation |
| 06:47.14 | ZarafFaraz | yeah, I've already seen like 3 other maps that are similar to Nexus Wars |
| 06:47.32 | Xaragoth | and you shouldn't forget the 20 copies of nexus wars |
| 06:47.39 | Xaragoth | actually, the card game is still better |
| 06:47.40 | ZarafFaraz | lol |
| 06:47.46 | Otixa | Ideally |
| 06:47.46 | Xaragoth | let me take a look at what I can find |
| 06:47.51 | Otixa | If there are like major beats |
| 06:47.52 | ZarafFaraz | I haven't been able to find the card game |
| 06:47.57 | Otixa | With around 4-5sec intervals |
| 06:48.11 | Dogmai | Xolsom, if you think you can do it better, then go for it :) |
| 06:48.14 | Xaragoth | slow start? |
| 06:48.19 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 06:48.25 | Xaragoth | or you don't waste time on nexus wars |
| 06:48.26 | Otixa | Slow start works |
| 06:48.30 | Xaragoth | and do some good survival or defense stuff |
| 06:48.36 | Xaragoth | we really lack in that department at the moment |
| 06:48.41 | Xaragoth | I want a new NOTD: Aftermath |
| 06:48.50 | Xaragoth | but TSOF is sucking up my timeframe badly |
| 06:48.51 | Otixa | yes plz |
| 06:49.02 | ZarafFaraz | what is NOTD? |
| 06:49.02 | Leaderboard | Just received my new PC :o |
| 06:49.04 | Xaragoth | but well, with malu probably joining us after blizzcon, i'll be relieved of dutys |
| 06:49.08 | Xaragoth | Night Of The Dead: Aftermath |
| 06:49.11 | ZarafFaraz | ahh |
| 06:49.13 | Xaragoth | its basically like the other NOTD thingys |
| 06:49.13 | Otixa | ZarafFaraz, old map from WC3 |
| 06:49.16 | ZarafFaraz | one of those zombie survival games |
| 06:49.17 | Xaragoth | but it has QUALITY |
| 06:49.22 | Otixa | You could build barricades and shit to stop zombies |
| 06:49.25 | Otixa | Was epic :D |
| 06:49.28 | ZarafFaraz | yeah I remember that |
| 06:49.31 | Xaragoth | no otixa |
| 06:49.33 | Xaragoth | thats the regular one |
| 06:49.35 | Otixa | No? D: |
| 06:49.38 | ZarafFaraz | is that the one that had like lightning and stuff? |
| 06:49.39 | Xaragoth | aftermath, the good one, is the storydriven one |
| 06:49.43 | Xaragoth | with 5 different storylines |
| 06:49.46 | Xaragoth | yeah |
| 06:49.47 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 06:49.49 | ZarafFaraz | like the screen would flash every few seconds like lightning? |
| 06:49.50 | Xaragoth | with nightvision and things |
| 06:49.52 | Otixa | Don't remember anymoar |
| 06:50.03 | Xaragoth | its actually one of the best maps produced for wc3 |
| 06:50.09 | Leaderboard | wich one ? |
| 06:50.13 | Xaragoth | NOTD: Aftermath |
| 06:50.18 | Otixa | I remember it having some custom models |
| 06:50.27 | Otixa | And I thought they're pretty awesome at the time |
| 06:50.30 | ZarafFaraz | any of you guys familiar with Smash TV? |
| 06:50.52 | Xaragoth | guess those were from talon |
| 06:50.57 | Xaragoth | worked with him for some time |
| 06:51.02 | Xaragoth | he left for wow 8[ |
| 06:51.07 | Otixa | :D |
| 06:51.30 | Otixa | Well, I'm doing the custom assets around here now ¬_¬ |
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| 06:51.45 | WaR | I'm using STARCODE; but I get this error... Trigger Error in 'gt_StartCode_Func': Could not get 'str' from parameter in 'StringLength' (value: 0) |
| 06:52.05 | Otixa | STARCODE, lol |
| 06:52.17 | Xaragoth | damn, the IMPS soundtrack also had nothing good |
| 06:56.21 | Otixa | Right |
| 06:56.27 | Otixa | Gotta GTFO to dentist |
| 06:56.32 | Otixa | back in 2 hours or so o/ |
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| 06:58.49 | crazyfingers | 'ello |
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| 07:04.03 | Nash|327 | pewpewpew |
| 07:05.21 | Nash|327 | chucks nuns |
| 07:05.44 | Leaderboard | hi Nash |
| 07:05.49 | Leaderboard | You balanced your RPG ? |
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| 07:06.28 | Nash|327 | I don't know about balance, I did add air attacks to all heroes |
| 07:06.36 | Nash|327 | and buffed firebat, marine and marauder |
| 07:07.15 | Nash|327 | did you see video? |
| 07:07.23 | Nash|327 | You're in it :G |
| 07:08.24 | Nash|327 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5N5kvUG514 |
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| 07:16.01 | Leaderboard | Really ? i will take a look Nash |
| 07:17.14 | Fromethius | crazyfingers! |
| 07:17.23 | Fromethius | tab in to sc2 =D |
| 07:18.40 | crazyfingers | hehe ok |
| 07:19.42 | Fromethius | anyone else US want to play island defense? we need 2 more |
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| 07:20.20 | Nash|327 | I frapsed the replay and cropped it etc |
| 07:20.35 | Leaderboard | Nash|327 : i loved your video :p |
| 07:20.56 | Nash|327 | I thought it was rather crappy personally D: |
| 07:21.03 | Nash|327 | but it serves its purpose |
| 07:21.08 | Leaderboard | maybe sound :p |
| 07:21.19 | Nash|327 | I'm clearly not a video editor person |
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| 07:23.07 | Tordecybombo | s3rius stopped coming to the irc :/ |
| 07:23.21 | Nash|327 | Tordecybombo |
| 07:23.28 | Nash|327 | I have another video of my map |
| 07:23.32 | Tordecybombo | :o |
| 07:23.35 | vjeux | Nash|327: have you posted it on mapster? |
| 07:23.40 | Nash|327 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5N5kvUG514 |
| 07:23.54 | vjeux | i mean is there a thread/project? |
| 07:23.54 | Nash|327 | No, where would I post it? |
| 07:23.57 | vjeux | i want to news it! :p |
| 07:24.01 | vjeux | project workplace |
| 07:24.23 | Nash|327 | is that a forum? |
| 07:24.36 | vjeux | yes |
| 07:24.49 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/ |
| 07:25.03 | Nash|327 | I found it :o |
| 07:25.16 | Nash|327 | Just post map info and video link? |
| 07:25.27 | vjeux | yup |
| 07:26.18 | Tordecybombo | keep gettng an error when i try to localize my map |
| 07:26.23 | Tordecybombo | using the sc2 localizedr |
| 07:26.28 | vjeux | what's the error? |
| 07:27.07 | Tordecybombo | enGB not valid |
| 07:27.10 | Leaderboard | hi tordecybombo |
| 07:27.11 | Tordecybombo | localization failed |
| 07:27.16 | Tordecybombo | hi leaderboard :] |
| 07:27.21 | vjeux | hmm |
| 07:27.28 | vjeux | try auto detect? |
| 07:27.52 | Tordecybombo | well that worked |
| 07:27.59 | Tordecybombo | but what region does auto do |
| 07:28.18 | vjeux | all |
| 07:28.27 | Tordecybombo | oh what |
| 07:28.30 | vjeux | you are asked what is YOUR localization |
| 07:28.40 | vjeux | so it copies it to all the localizations |
| 07:29.20 | Tordecybombo | Leaderboard |
| 07:29.20 | Tordecybombo | hi |
| 07:29.25 | vjeux | if you select enGB but are enUS |
| 07:29.41 | vjeux | it won't find any enGB strings in the map so it can't copy it all over the place |
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| 07:34.51 | Leaderboard | hi tordecybombo |
| 07:36.58 | Tordecybombo | is it normal for localizing to incease the map size by 300kb |
| 07:37.31 | vjeux | yeah |
| 07:37.39 | vjeux | it copies all your string like 10 times |
| 07:37.45 | vjeux | strings |
| 07:39.55 | Clord | normally localization is not needed unless you bring map to other regions |
| 07:39.56 | Clord | XD |
| 07:40.11 | Clord | at keast blizzard did something right |
| 07:40.18 | Clord | least |
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| 07:43.12 | Dogmai | blizzard built in localization? |
| 07:45.18 | Clord | well... here europe at least |
| 07:45.31 | Clord | I have seen stream of version what are not in english (their games) |
| 07:45.34 | Clord | yet they can read everything |
| 07:45.43 | Clord | in my map |
| 07:45.52 | Dogmai | i tried to add chinese and korean characters to my map |
| 07:46.00 | Dogmai | but it does not support them |
| 07:46.03 | Dogmai | big8 |
| 07:46.14 | Clord | but for other regions I must use localization tools if I want to get it to other battle.net server |
| 07:46.51 | Tordecybombo | wait what |
| 07:47.05 | Tordecybombo | there's builtin localization for EU? |
| 07:47.07 | Tordecybombo | :[ |
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| 07:48.36 | Nash|327 | vjeux: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/8896-fringe-6-player-coop-rpg/ |
| 07:49.24 | Tordecybombo | i hate region lock |
| 07:49.30 | Tordecybombo | i want to play with EU people :/ |
| 07:50.22 | SycoPrime | Could anyone tell me what/where to check for?: My medkit (followed tutorial) has 5 charges, works on use, does not consume 1 charge (as is told to in DE) when used. |
| 07:50.41 | vjeux | great |
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| 07:51.04 | Clord | Tordecybombo.... something like that.... if any EU game version not detect files for their language in map.... it tries to find english one |
| 07:51.05 | Clord | XD |
| 07:52.05 | Nash|327 | SycoPrime: Charge link |
| 07:53.51 | SycoPrime | Nash: We'll see if that did it. Thank you! |
| 07:54.31 | Nash|327 | no prob, that's what I had trouble with at least |
| 07:54.52 | Nash|327 | need to add your ability to link it to itself for some reason |
| 07:56.38 | Clord | thanks to data editor... stupid dummy units are mostly useless |
| 07:56.39 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:57.25 | casperb | EU people are the best! :p |
| 07:58.47 | vjeux | indeed |
| 07:58.57 | Nash|327 | EU people may or may not be better than other non-EU people |
| 08:00.48 | SycoPrime | Anyone know if it's possible (or can just tell me that it definitely is impossible) for one Actor to function for two units using only the data editor (no triggers)? |
| 08:02.48 | casperb | mean one actor being linked to two units? |
| 08:02.54 | SycoPrime | Yes. |
| 08:04.26 | Nash|327 | well if you add some unit's weapon to another unit then you're using the same actor on two units |
| 08:05.13 | SycoPrime | Weapon? |
| 08:05.36 | SycoPrime | For the (actor) effects that weapon uses, I assume. |
| 08:05.59 | SycoPrime | I'm thinking more along the lines of having Items that all use the same "crate" actor, without having to create an actor for each item. |
| 08:06.47 | Nash|327 | dunno, actors fuck with my head |
| 08:07.02 | Nash|327 | I had enough making the medic heal into a weapon |
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| 08:07.33 | SycoPrime | Haha |
| 08:07.41 | Nash|327 | works though! |
| 08:07.54 | cosh | hi |
| 08:08.04 | cosh | what to do when the editor refuses to save changes? :( |
| 08:08.11 | cosh | don't wanna lose an hour of work |
| 08:08.16 | cosh | but I know I will *sigh* |
| 08:08.17 | Nash|327 | save MORE! |
| 08:08.28 | cosh | is there any fix/workaround for it? |
| 08:08.30 | Nash|327 | save as another file? |
| 08:08.35 | cosh | no that doesn't work |
| 08:09.01 | Nash|327 | :/ |
| 08:09.08 | Nash|327 | wonder if publishing would help |
| 08:09.12 | cosh | hmm |
| 08:09.14 | cosh | gonna try it |
| 08:09.25 | Nash|327 | publish as private, unlocked |
| 08:10.07 | ZarafFaraz | hey, are either of you guys available to help me test a feature on my map? |
| 08:10.08 | cosh | k I did that, let me test |
| 08:10.19 | SycoPrime | cosh: What error is it giving you? |
| 08:10.24 | Nash|327 | US/EU? |
| 08:10.27 | ZarafFaraz | US |
| 08:10.34 | Nash|327 | then no |
| 08:10.39 | ZarafFaraz | damn region lock |
| 08:10.40 | cosh | nope still has the old values =( |
| 08:10.43 | cosh | SycoPrime no error |
| 08:10.46 | cosh | it basically saves |
| 08:10.50 | cosh | but it doesn't save :o |
| 08:10.58 | ZarafFaraz | Syco, Cosh, are you on US or EU? |
| 08:11.01 | cosh | EU |
| 08:11.18 | ZarafFaraz | I've noticed there are a LOT more mappers from EU than US |
| 08:11.21 | cosh | I changed the cost of a tower from 350 to 200, save the map, test the document and the cost is still @ 350 |
| 08:11.39 | SycoPrime | I'm on US, but no online play. Roommate's running torrents and it makes it unbearable. |
| 08:11.53 | SycoPrime | Sorry. |
| 08:12.03 | Nash|327 | try changing document save preference |
| 08:12.08 | cosh | nobody has that problem? I have that problem like once every 3 days |
| 08:12.14 | Nash|327 | never |
| 08:12.18 | cosh | Nash|327 thanks, already tried that from "save space" to "fast" to no avail |
| 08:12.22 | cosh | still ignores the changes lol |
| 08:12.40 | ZarafFaraz | k thanks anyway Syco |
| 08:12.47 | Nash|327 | well, your editor sounds fucked |
| 08:12.49 | ZarafFaraz | btw Syco, what's your name/number for bnet? |
| 08:12.50 | Nash|327 | reinstall? |
| 08:12.52 | SycoPrime | cosh: Hmm.....what OS are you running? What filesystem is the drive you're saving to? |
| 08:13.33 | cosh | I'm running vista here, ntfs file system, but I have that @ home with Win7 + ntfs too |
| 08:13.35 | SycoPrime | Zaraffaraz: SycoPrime / 842 |
| 08:13.55 | SycoPrime | On a completely different machine, same problem? |
| 08:13.57 | SycoPrime | Now that IS odd.... |
| 08:14.06 | ZarafFaraz | k, I'm Zaraf 527 |
| 08:14.11 | cosh | yea :( that's why I thought somebody else has to have that problem |
| 08:14.41 | SycoPrime | Hit me up tomorrow, I'll be good for it then. |
| 08:15.14 | Nash|327 | I just /nicked my number |
| 08:15.15 | SycoPrime | cosh: Maybe an app (antivirus?) you're running is causing the problem? |
| 08:15.31 | SycoPrime | You running any kind of automated defragger? |
| 08:15.49 | cosh | I don't use antivir or defrag =( |
| 08:15.54 | cosh | maybe that's the problem ha! =) |
| 08:16.00 | SycoPrime | haha |
| 08:16.01 | Nash|327 | the map isn't open in SC2 is it? |
| 08:16.02 | SycoPrime | Could be a virus. |
| 08:16.08 | cosh | no it's not |
| 08:16.13 | SycoPrime | Nash: That's never been a problem for me... |
| 08:16.20 | Nash|327 | It was in SC1 |
| 08:16.30 | Nash|327 | You had the map open and OMG CANNOT SAVE |
| 08:16.46 | ZarafFaraz | SycoPrime: it says your name can't be found |
| 08:16.47 | SycoPrime | Well, file write permissions. Makes sense a decade ago. |
| 08:16.56 | SycoPrime | That's odd. |
| 08:17.16 | Nash|327 | He gave you the 555 D: |
| 08:17.28 | SycoPrime | 555? |
| 08:17.34 | Nash|327 | fake number |
| 08:17.39 | SycoPrime | Oh. |
| 08:17.55 | SycoPrime | Well, maybe that's not my number. I haven't had to use it since I registered. I thought that's what I picked. |
| 08:18.00 | SycoPrime | It's something 42. How do I check? |
| 08:18.23 | Nash|327 | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/7253-the-map-testers-list/ |
| 08:18.33 | Nash|327 | IT HAS PICTURES |
| 08:18.43 | Nash|327 | :o |
| 08:19.12 | SycoPrime | haha |
| 08:19.46 | Nash|327 | I never forget mine :P |
| 08:19.47 | Nash|327 | <- |
| 08:19.55 | ZarafFaraz | Syco, when you go into your Add Friend menu, it will show your number there in the top right corner |
| 08:20.14 | SycoPrime | Oh shit, haha. That's why I got it wrong. I'm still logged in as my friend. |
| 08:20.35 | Nash|327 | join random games and lose |
| 08:20.51 | Nash|327 | SCV RUSH |
| 08:20.57 | SycoPrime | Haha. He wanted to see if I could get him an achievement. I still don't know if it's possible, on account of I failed :/ |
| 08:21.19 | ZarafFaraz | there's an SCV rush achievement? |
| 08:21.38 | Nash|327 | THERE SHOULD BE! |
| 08:21.42 | SycoPrime | haha |
| 08:21.58 | Nash|327 | Damn, SCV Rush is what the pros use. |
| 08:22.08 | casperb | actually kinda hard to do :p |
| 08:22.19 | casperb | need to be a really near distance map |
| 08:22.21 | SycoPrime | Isn't there like an achievement for beating the computer in under 5? |
| 08:22.23 | casperb | needs* |
| 08:22.31 | Nash|327 | select all workers, attack-move, win |
| 08:23.04 | ZarafFaraz | wouldn't a Drone rush work better though? |
| 08:23.11 | ZarafFaraz | seeing as how you can create drones faster than SCVs? |
| 08:23.24 | Nash|327 | Create? Bah! |
| 08:23.58 | SycoPrime | Ugh, it's one of these passwords... |
| 08:24.01 | Nash|327 | If you need more than start units you suck D; |
| 08:24.07 | ZarafFaraz | damn I can't find anyone to test with -_- |
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| 08:26.01 | Nash|327 | solo testing is your best friend |
| 08:26.28 | Nash|327 | cheat codes + temporary edits + Test Map button |
| 08:27.05 | ZarafFaraz | well, I have been solo testing |
| 08:27.12 | ZarafFaraz | but I need to test some multiplayer features |
| 08:27.14 | SycoPrime | Nash: Kinda hard to test multiplayer features alone :/ |
| 08:27.31 | Nash|327 | depends |
| 08:27.37 | ZarafFaraz | I would add computers to act as players, but I've already made all the triggers to filter out computer players -_- |
| 08:27.56 | SycoPrime | Zara: I can't figure out my password right now and these page loads are taking forever -_- but I'd be no good right now anyway. I promise I'll help you test tomorrow. |
| 08:28.27 | ZarafFaraz | sounds good, thanks |
| 08:28.36 | ZarafFaraz | tell your friend to do torrents overnight instead of while you're online lol |
| 08:28.46 | Nash|327 | only testing I didn't manage solo was balance testing |
| 08:28.47 | SycoPrime | It is overnight. |
| 08:28.52 | ZarafFaraz | lol |
| 08:29.03 | SycoPrime | It's 1:30 AM for me :P |
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| 08:29.08 | ZarafFaraz | 2:30 am for me |
| 08:29.19 | SycoPrime | Ah, mountain time, eh? |
| 08:29.23 | ZarafFaraz | yeah |
| 08:29.29 | ZarafFaraz | Edmonton, Alberta, Canada |
| 08:29.36 | Nash|327 | EH? |
| 08:29.39 | FahqueL | has anyone here done site operation attachments? |
| 08:30.00 | ZarafFaraz | eh? indeed |
| 08:30.11 | FahqueL | if i want to rotate an attachment 90 degrees from positive Z to negative Y |
| 08:30.15 | SycoPrime | Fahquel: I'm still at the point where I need to figure out what those even are :( |
| 08:30.36 | FahqueL | i need a SOpAdjust of type.....??? |
| 08:30.43 | Nash|327 | I'm at the point where I avoid anything with actors as much as possible |
| 08:30.45 | Nash|327 | D_D |
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| 08:32.00 | Nash|327 | You'd think this shit would be easy for computer science students |
| 08:32.02 | FahqueL | honestly i logged on hoping to god that i would see "prozaicmuse" in the right hand column :) |
| 08:33.14 | Nash|327 | I would rather do Assembly than mess with actors D: |
| 08:33.42 | SycoPrime | Oh, come on, Nash, you're exaggerating. |
| 08:33.50 | ZarafFaraz | yeah, messing with actors sucks a lot |
| 08:33.54 | crazyfingers | don't get me started on actors |
| 08:33.55 | Nash|327 | Assembly ain't so bad |
| 08:34.04 | SycoPrime | I hate it, too. |
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| 08:34.15 | crazyfingers | spent 5 hours with 'em yesterday trying to resolve a simple spawn projectile location issue |
| 08:34.16 | ZarafFaraz | I don't know how the Blizzard employees did it and stayed sane |
| 08:34.21 | crazyfingers | still have no idea wtf i was doing |
| 08:34.31 | ZarafFaraz | hey crazyfingers, are you on US or EU? |
| 08:34.35 | crazyfingers | US |
| 08:34.43 | ZarafFaraz | you able to help me with a quick test? |
| 08:34.45 | Nash|327 | Push to stack, do stuff, pull from stack in reverse order |
| 08:34.48 | crazyfingers | sure |
| 08:34.51 | ZarafFaraz | awesome thanks |
| 08:34.53 | crazyfingers | yep |
| 08:34.58 | ZarafFaraz | message me on bnet, I'm Zaraf 527 |
| 08:40.31 | Clord | when they separated actors from units... and made them just be that unit is invisble and actors make look... it was probably because units like Leviathan XD |
| 08:40.37 | Clord | it has tons weapons |
| 08:40.39 | Clord | lol |
| 08:40.52 | Impaler | Anyone know how to make more then 2 units spawn from an egg? |
| 08:41.35 | Impaler | I'm doing an upgrade to make 4 lings come from an egg, I have build time being changed |
| 08:42.02 | Impaler | but when I try to set units[2] and [3] to Zerglings I get nothing |
| 08:42.24 | Impaler | is 2 units some kind of maximum? |
| 08:43.26 | casperb | Anyone looked into doing respawns with data? |
| 08:43.45 | Nash|327 | respawns with data? |
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| 08:43.53 | casperb | yup, unit dies, unit respawns :p |
| 08:43.54 | Leaderboard | Hey back everyone |
| 08:44.24 | Nash|327 | with data editor? |
| 08:44.46 | casperb | yep |
| 08:45.09 | SycoPrime | casperb: Actually trying to do that with triggers at the moment. |
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| 08:45.14 | Balto | Hi |
| 08:45.15 | SycoPrime | Nash: The medkit thing worked. Thank you! |
| 08:45.16 | Nash|327 | why have the unit die at all if you're going to respawn it instantly? |
| 08:45.19 | casperb | SycoPrime: triggers is easy |
| 08:45.22 | Nash|327 | no probs |
| 08:45.28 | casperb | not instantly |
| 08:45.44 | Leaderboard | Nash|327 : can all units shoot air units now ? |
| 08:45.49 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 08:46.06 | Leaderboard | but not the firebat, right ? |
| 08:46.10 | Nash|327 | him too |
| 08:46.13 | Leaderboard | :o |
| 08:46.18 | Nash|327 | he has an air only grenade |
| 08:46.28 | Nash|327 | using the FT looked too fucked up |
| 08:47.03 | Nash|327 | damage vs. air is lower, though |
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| 08:47.11 | SycoPrime | Impaler: Have you tried manually adding two more zerglings to the command? |
| 08:47.12 | Nash|327 | and not splash like the flamer |
| 08:47.30 | Nash|327 | but Incendary Cannon can shoot air |
| 08:47.36 | Nash|327 | and does 300 damage :G |
| 08:48.00 | Leaderboard | so Huesy, are you still interested by my TPS Multiplayer engine ? |
| 08:49.16 | Nash|327 | Thermite Grenades :G |
| 08:49.52 | Nash|327 | looks pretty good when firebat shoots marauder grenades |
| 08:49.55 | Nash|327 | so it's fine |
| 08:51.04 | Nash|327 | Well, back to an earlier topic |
| 08:51.14 | Nash|327 | Why let the unit die and respawn it? |
| 08:51.30 | Nash|327 | You could use prevent death behavior :G |
| 08:52.37 | Nash|327 | Course, if you really want to respawn, make a persistent effect that starts on death and creates unit when it ends |
| 08:54.28 | Impaler | SycoPrime I'm using an upgrade |
| 08:54.39 | Impaler | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.26 | Impaler | I figured the original zerglings are units 0, 1 so by adding additional zerglings at 2 and 3 I'd have four total |
| 08:55.50 | Nash|327 | unless the array is 0-1 |
| 08:56.01 | Impaler | the time and cost modifiers are working so I know this code is being executed |
| 08:56.45 | Nash|327 | ling rush keke ^_^;; |
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| 08:57.14 | SycoPrime | Impaler: Right, I get that. I'm not terribly familiar with this part of the editor, so I was offering all that I could think of: Does it work if you manually add the units in DE, as if the upgrade were applied all along? |
| 08:57.26 | Impaler | Bliz would have to be really shortsighted to hardcode a max of 2, and this upgrade was their idea, I'm just implenting the effect described in some left over text attached to this aparently scrapped upgrade |
| 08:57.44 | SycoPrime | heh |
| 08:58.13 | Impaler | I could give that a try I guess, modifying the base ability |
| 08:58.49 | Impaler | oddly enough that just use <unit name=Zergling/> twice |
| 08:58.53 | Nash|327 | gonna go kill some AI |
| 09:01.23 | SycoPrime | Impaler: I don't even see how you're setting 2 and 3 O_O all I see is the ability to edit the existing unit entries. |
| 09:02.15 | ZarafFaraz | I'm surprised that Protoss don't have an unused Reaver like the Zerg have the Lurker |
| 09:03.57 | Xolsom | Okay.. need another opinion... Small Basic concept: Protoss tribes surviving in a jungle. Last Tribe standing wins.. those tribes may fight against each other and there would also be a constantly growing zerg swarm invading.. Does that sound interesting in a way or well.. not so much? :P |
| 09:04.44 | soundsnc | golem style? whats the gameplay like? |
| 09:04.46 | Impaler | ok I can get 4 lings by adding them to the base ability |
| 09:04.50 | SycoPrime | Kinda. |
| 09:04.54 | Impaler | but I still need to make an upgrade |
| 09:05.07 | SycoPrime | Ok, impaler, so you've ruled out a hardcoded limit. |
| 09:05.28 | Impaler | yes, I would be really surprised if their was one |
| 09:06.32 | Xolsom | Dont know about golem but well.. the players would have to choose a class at the beginning and start with nothing - collecting items to create weapons and buildings |
| 09:07.10 | soundsnc | items such as minerals and gas? |
| 09:07.11 | soundsnc | lol |
| 09:08.18 | Otixa | wut |
| 09:08.23 | Nash|327 | zerg rush :G |
| 09:08.28 | Xolsom | Nope.. items like steel, lumber.. |
| 09:09.01 | Otixa | I had mah wisdom teeth fucked >:| |
| 09:09.11 | Otixa | And on top of that |
| 09:09.17 | Otixa | He made me pay for it! >:[ |
| 09:09.29 | Xolsom | Not that much about having probes to simply warp in those buildings |
| 09:09.58 | Nash|327 | build lumber Nexus? |
| 09:10.31 | soundsnc | question, why are protoss tribes utilizing bronze age materials? |
| 09:10.32 | Xolsom | Ay :O Would look quite interesting.. geez those were examples :P |
| 09:11.08 | Otixa | soundsnc, same reason your face is so ugly :D |
| 09:11.22 | Xolsom | Lets say those items are materials(hightech if you want) which are needed for building buildings and creating weapons |
| 09:11.23 | Nash|327 | the mailman is to blame? |
| 09:11.31 | SycoPrime | soundsnc: Cut off from the place where they warp stuff in from. And stranded. |
| 09:11.58 | Nash|327 | building would be weird |
| 09:12.18 | Otixa | So eh |
| 09:12.21 | Nash|327 | maybe have buildings already and just buy upgrades and units |
| 09:12.22 | Otixa | What'd I miss? |
| 09:12.32 | Xolsom | How would it be weird? |
| 09:12.41 | Nash|327 | without warping stuff |
| 09:12.49 | Nash|327 | so weird! |
| 09:12.52 | soundsnc | alright, higher tech materials. so are we building a base with units still? |
| 09:12.55 | soundsnc | sort of melee style? |
| 09:13.13 | soundsnc | this is vs other tribes, and the computer is an expanding zerg? |
| 09:13.22 | Nash|327 | also, why are these Protoss fighting? |
| 09:13.25 | Xolsom | Ah forgot to mention that.. more hero like :P So no not melee style |
| 09:13.43 | Otixa | Nash|327, they stole eachother's hookers, obviously |
| 09:13.51 | Nash|327 | So.. |
| 09:13.58 | Otixa | Mmm... hookers... |
| 09:14.02 | Nash|327 | you have one objective building |
| 09:14.02 | Xolsom | ... |
| 09:14.08 | Otixa | I should go out tonight |
| 09:14.08 | Nash|327 | that must be defended |
| 09:14.28 | Otixa | fuck ex > ??? > profit? |
| 09:14.29 | Nash|327 | you have buildings that can't be destroyed where you buy upgrades and units |
| 09:14.38 | Nash|327 | and hero abilities |
| 09:15.26 | Nash|327 | and you can go creep like WC3 to level your hero |
| 09:16.10 | Otixa | Creep like Nash|327? ;o |
| 09:16.32 | Nash|327 | witty! |
| 09:16.40 | Nash|327 | now all we need is a your mom joke |
| 09:16.54 | Otixa | Yo momma so fat she takes up 8 transport slots |
| 09:16.59 | Otixa | :> |
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| 09:17.41 | Xolsom | Lets see we have players, those players group in tribes(which are at war for some random reason) Then at the beginning a player may choose one of X classes which would then be his only controllable unit |
| 09:17.45 | Otixa | My work here is done! |
| 09:17.53 | Otixa | flies off into the sunset |
| 09:18.05 | Impaler | Any additonal thoughts on morph issue? |
| 09:18.08 | Otixa | And another day is ruined, thanks to Super Otixa! |
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| 09:18.31 | Impaler | how to add additional units to a morph with an upgrade |
| 09:19.11 | Xolsom | Now build doesn't seem nice to you.. what about having the collected items warp to some center, where a team may order buildings to be warped in |
| 09:19.37 | Otixa | Oh oh |
| 09:19.41 | Otixa | I have a better idea |
| 09:19.51 | Otixa | You warp in building segments |
| 09:19.56 | SycoPrime | Impaler: Screenshot of what your upgrade - Effects+ looks like? |
| 09:20.01 | Otixa | And depending on the segment types and their placement |
| 09:20.10 | Otixa | The building will behave differently |
| 09:20.12 | Otixa | badum-tish |
| 09:20.30 | Impaler | Her is the XML |
| 09:20.33 | Impaler | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.37 | Xolsom | Wouldn't that be an extension of my idea? |
| 09:20.41 | FahqueL | hmmm, does anyone know if one attachment point can host 2 attached models? |
| 09:20.48 | Otixa | I suppose ;p |
| 09:20.52 | Xolsom | :P |
| 09:21.02 | Impaler | no point in a screenshot really |
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| 09:21.40 | Xolsom | So he has different segments like ground segment, middle segment and so on.. |
| 09:21.53 | SycoPrime | Again, getting the XML is beyond me :P But....can you edit it to be Unit[2] and Unit[3]? |
| 09:22.25 | Otixa | Yanno |
| 09:22.36 | Xolsom | But there is no place to show him about the combinations.. puzzles ftw |
| 09:22.39 | Otixa | The stuff dentists put in your mouth to disinfect it |
| 09:22.49 | Otixa | Leaves a very bad aftertaste ¬_¬ |
| 09:23.17 | Xolsom | Drink something with worse taste :> |
| 09:23.31 | Otixa | There is no such thing ;p |
| 09:23.33 | Otixa | Anyway |
| 09:23.43 | Otixa | puts on gameplay designer hat |
| 09:24.02 | Otixa | The idea of different cominations of building modules |
| 09:24.13 | Otixa | Which produce specific buildings would work really well |
| 09:24.25 | Otixa | As it significantly increases the replayability of the game |
| 09:24.32 | Xolsom | Indeed |
| 09:24.37 | Otixa | Especially if the players have to figure out the combinations by themselves |
| 09:24.42 | Impaler | yes I can edit the XML and have tried both 2 and 3 to no avail |
| 09:24.52 | Otixa | Frustration > reward system |
| 09:25.00 | Otixa | Players try to play the game, but can't |
| 09:25.11 | Otixa | So they play it again and again until they learn all the combinations |
| 09:25.22 | Otixa | At which point they are satisfied and stop playing |
| 09:25.27 | Otixa | Thus, more gameplay mechanics |
| 09:25.28 | Otixa | Go |
| 09:25.51 | Xolsom | Now comes the use of buildings |
| 09:25.51 | Otixa | takes off hat |
| 09:26.09 | Otixa | <- BCs Computer Games Design & Programming btw :P |
| 09:26.16 | Xolsom | Nice nice :P |
| 09:26.41 | Xolsom | Well the tribes are at war |
| 09:26.53 | Xolsom | So to fight, they do need weapons |
| 09:26.56 | Otixa | I wonder if I can sneak into the mocap studio late at night and make awesome animations for something <_< |
| 09:27.02 | Xolsom | Which may be created in thse buildings |
| 09:27.12 | Otixa | Xolsom, this is starting to sound too much like jungle troll tribes |
| 09:27.15 | Impaler | well got to go thx for the help |
| 09:27.29 | Xolsom | You better run into blizzard headquarters and fix the publishing system :P |
| 09:27.50 | Otixa | Give us new mechanics |
| 09:27.57 | Otixa | Something which hasn't been done yet |
| 09:28.17 | Xolsom | Hmmm |
| 09:28.41 | Otixa | New == good |
| 09:28.51 | Otixa | We've been playing spinoffs of spinoffs for years now |
| 09:29.03 | Xolsom | Well they still need to be at war |
| 09:29.07 | Xolsom | And have the zerg attacking |
| 09:29.20 | Otixa | Every game has major mechanics which exist in other games |
| 09:29.46 | Xolsom | So the question would be, in which new way, would they fight |
| 09:29.51 | ZarafFaraz | It's kinda disappointing we didn't get a Blizzard made TD map like in WC3 |
| 09:29.59 | Xolsom | And what use do the buildings have |
| 09:30.13 | ZarafFaraz | we have to deal with all the shit TDs on bnet until something good comes along |
| 09:30.18 | Otixa | Xolsom, zerg only pick off the weak and slow |
| 09:30.33 | Otixa | Thus, the players must always stay together in order to survive |
| 09:30.35 | Otixa | :> |
| 09:30.45 | Xolsom | Ah thanks for the story :o |
| 09:30.54 | Xolsom | Each tribe has an artifact |
| 09:31.04 | Xolsom | 'story'.. |
| 09:31.07 | Otixa | GOTTA CATCH EM ALL |
| 09:31.16 | Xolsom | Exactly :o |
| 09:31.24 | Otixa | Better |
| 09:31.38 | Xolsom | Each tribe and the zerg strive to complete them |
| 09:31.41 | Otixa | Each artifact is part of a machine |
| 09:31.54 | Otixa | And when you collect X or more, they start forming said machine |
| 09:32.02 | Otixa | and it has several stages of readiness |
| 09:32.17 | SycoPrime | Otixa: BC? |
| 09:32.21 | Otixa | And the tribes fight |
| 09:32.35 | Otixa | Because each of them wants to assemble the ultimate weapon themselves |
| 09:32.40 | Otixa | And slay all the zerg on the planet |
| 09:32.46 | Otixa | And claim the honor and glory |
| 09:32.49 | Otixa | Badum-tish |
| 09:32.50 | Tinman | If there is anyone up for playing some games on the EU server and being on the "Custom Live" stream check out: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/player-zone/map-review/8885-custom-live/ |
| 09:32.50 | Tinman | And PM me in-game on Tinman.568 |
| 09:33.05 | Xolsom | Well |
| 09:33.06 | Otixa | Tinman, use my intro >:[ |
| 09:33.41 | Otixa | stabs Tinman |
| 09:33.52 | Tinman | What intro! |
| 09:33.54 | Tinman | ? |
| 09:33.58 | Otixa | ;/ |
| 09:34.16 | Otixa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsuziDiuG0Q&hd=1 |
| 09:34.17 | Otixa | That intro |
| 09:34.21 | Tinman | I need to collect some players |
| 09:35.01 | Tinman | aaw that intro... never heard of |
| 09:35.04 | Tinman | nice though |
| 09:35.20 | Xolsom | Well its on the front page, nice work btw :P |
| 09:35.22 | Tinman | let me get it in |
| 09:35.32 | Otixa | Maybe I can make you one for custom live later on ;P |
| 09:35.54 | Otixa | Xolsom, what's on the front page? |
| 09:35.59 | Xolsom | Your intro |
| 09:36.03 | Otixa | OH |
| 09:36.05 | Otixa | lawl |
| 09:36.07 | Otixa | checks |
| 09:36.18 | Nash|327 | Fringe made it to front page :o |
| 09:36.29 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 09:36.33 | Otixa | vjeux |
| 09:37.12 | Otixa | kicks vjeux in the sack |
| 09:37.12 | vjeux | ? |
| 09:37.12 | Otixa | I'm a guy >:[ |
| 09:37.12 | Xolsom | LOL :D |
| 09:37.17 | Xolsom | But didn't sixen post it? |
| 09:37.21 | Tinman | If you make one for custom live, make the SC2Mapster logo show up under it, that way I dont have to play two intros :p |
| 09:37.24 | Otixa | I dunno |
| 09:37.41 | Otixa | Tinman, define "under it" |
| 09:38.14 | Tinman | "Custom Live" |
| 09:38.14 | Tinman | "SC2Mapster" |
| 09:38.17 | Tinman | Under it |
| 09:38.22 | Tinman | below |
| 09:38.32 | Tinman | not over, but under, and not ontop |
| 09:39.06 | Tinman | I have a example |
| 09:39.24 | Tinman | are you watching the stream? |
| 09:39.24 | Otixa | noe, linky |
| 09:39.30 | Tinman | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/player-zone/map-review/8885-custom-live/ |
| 09:39.32 | Otixa | vjeux, fix the news >:| |
| 09:39.32 | Tinman | in second post |
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| 09:39.48 | Otixa | k, watching |
| 09:39.54 | Xolsom | Ah.. well the artifacts are hidden everywhere on the map..(a lot) though not accessible at the beginning |
| 09:40.07 | Xolsom | Buildings enable the players to get certain artifacts |
| 09:40.19 | vjeux | Otixa: fucking stop saying my nick everytime this is so annoying |
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| 09:40.50 | Tinman | can you see it Otixa? |
| 09:40.50 | Nash|327 | onoes I had a spelling error in mah video |
| 09:40.52 | Sixen | btw Otixa, nice job |
| 09:40.52 | Sixen | :P |
| 09:41.12 | Otixa | Tinman, yeh. See what I wrote in the chat there |
| 09:41.15 | Otixa | Sixen, ty :> |
| 09:41.22 | Nash|327 | well, typo |
| 09:41.45 | Xolsom | Ah man.. im away looking for ideas :P |
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| 09:41.49 | Otixa | Sixen, now go fix the news ;P |
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| 09:42.53 | Huesy | Leaderboard: Sorry was afk, I'd love to have a look |
| 09:43.05 | Sixen | What' wrong with it? |
| 09:43.15 | Otixa | I'm a guy ;/ |
| 09:43.17 | Huesy | ...and he's not here :P |
| 09:43.18 | Sixen | oh |
| 09:43.21 | Sixen | someone said you were a she |
| 09:43.27 | Sixen | so I just went off what he said |
| 09:43.35 | Otixa | Punch em for me ;P |
| 09:43.44 | Sixen | I think it was progammer |
| 09:44.00 | Sixen | all fixed |
| 09:44.02 | Otixa | :> |
| 09:44.36 | Otixa | Eh, should work on the tournament ad |
| 09:45.05 | Otixa | Or go play with Tinman :D |
| 09:45.11 | Otixa | bails |
| 09:45.28 | Xolsom | Thanks by the way, Otixa - Trying to build up from that :P |
| 09:49.55 | Megalon | fringe seems to be dotaesque at loadingtimes :P |
| 09:50.33 | Nash|327 | it is huge :G |
| 09:51.25 | Nash|327 | gonna see how many units and doodads there are |
| 09:51.57 | th15 | anyone have a list of the attachment point names? |
| 09:52.06 | th15 | im looking for TurretZ in particular |
| 09:52.21 | Nash|327 | 2627 units... |
| 09:52.38 | Nash|327 | 728 doodads |
| 09:52.53 | Walshie824 | i have 654 doodads :) |
| 09:53.01 | Walshie824 | sry 6537 |
| 09:53.07 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 09:53.16 | Walshie824 | lags like a mo fo |
| 09:53.18 | Nash|327 | then there's foliage |
| 09:53.28 | Walshie824 | :P |
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| 09:54.06 | Huesy | Would anyone have any suggestions as to what would be the best "strafe" animation for the civilian/colonist model? |
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| 09:55.04 | Nash|327 | strafe always looks so silly |
| 09:55.21 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v ProzaicMuze] by ChanServ |
| 09:55.54 | Nash|327 | strafe should be turn body in movement direction but head and weapon in aim direction :G |
| 09:56.00 | Nash|327 | not some odd crab walk |
| 09:56.28 | Huesy | That would be the sensible direction, but alas impossible with what's currently available :( |
| 09:56.37 | Nash|327 | SPYCRAB! |
| 09:56.57 | Huesy | I currently use the turn left and turn right animations, but there's too much sliding going on at the required speed. |
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| 09:57.57 | Nash|327 | stand up, try strafing |
| 09:58.00 | Nash|327 | see what you do |
| 09:59.35 | Nash|327 | I do sort of a skipping where my right foot is in front of my left every other step when moving left |
| 10:00.05 | Huesy | Exactly, and the best way to achieve that look with the current available SC2 animations is... |
| 10:00.21 | Huesy | Perhaps I can use the "stand unpowered" ones |
| 10:00.43 | Nash|327 | I thought you were going to animate it |
| 10:00.52 | Nash|327 | I have no clue what's available :G |
| 10:01.57 | Huesy | I have limited model animating experience, so I'll stick to what's currently available as long as I can ;) |
| 10:02.14 | Huesy | Thanks for the help though. I now know how you strafe. |
| 10:02.21 | Huesy | ;P |
| 10:02.29 | Nash|327 | Well I don't strafe |
| 10:02.35 | Clord | Alien Swarm game got "AI Director" |
| 10:02.38 | Clord | normal is insane! |
| 10:02.39 | Clord | XD |
| 10:02.51 | Nash|327 | Alien Swarm :o |
| 10:02.59 | Clord | Valve added AI director mode for it |
| 10:03.03 | th15 | Clord: wait till you change the flag to allow the director to spawn parasites. |
| 10:03.04 | Clord | uses L4D series AI director |
| 10:03.08 | Clord | :) |
| 10:03.16 | th15 | it's had that for custom maps from the beginning |
| 10:03.22 | th15 | its actually just a server side variable |
| 10:03.26 | Nash|327 | meh, parasites |
| 10:03.38 | Clord | so they plan keep it as standard feature for upcoming games |
| 10:03.41 | Clord | if someone wants to turn it on |
| 10:03.42 | Clord | lol |
| 10:03.44 | Nash|327 | flamer + electric armor + Faith |
| 10:03.56 | Clord | Half Life 3 + AI director = win win |
| 10:03.57 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:04.10 | Clord | would make action moments better ;) |
| 10:04.43 | Nash|327 | http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197991047591/stats/AlienSwarm?tab=achievements :P |
| 10:04.56 | Nash|327 | I played way too much Alien Swarm |
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| 10:06.05 | Clord | oh well..... L4D2 is still their real game |
| 10:06.08 | Clord | =) |
| 10:06.11 | Clord | for simillar idea |
| 10:06.40 | th15 | UnitGetAttachmentPoint(unit, "TurretZ"); |
| 10:06.40 | th15 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:06.48 | Nash|327 | wonder when there will be Alien Swarm maps for SC2 ;G |
| 10:07.05 | Clord | still L4D series lack in common enemy selection... there should be infected dogs, crows etc... all that classic stuff from resident evil ;) |
| 10:07.06 | Clord | lol |
| 10:07.08 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f8h1xtkb0U |
| 10:07.12 | ProzaicMuze | Best song ever |
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| 10:08.38 | th15 | the head attachment point doesnt seem to work either :( |
| 10:09.49 | SycoPrime | th15: I think the model has to actually have the attachment point...some might just not. |
| 10:11.15 | th15 | yea |
| 10:11.20 | th15 | which is why i tried head |
| 10:11.25 | th15 | its the siege tank model and i know it has it |
| 10:11.31 | th15 | i just think the string name for the point isnt correct |
| 10:11.35 | th15 | but there's no list of them anywhere :( |
| 10:12.34 | th15 | previewer says Ref_TurretZ [e_attachTurretZ] |
| 10:12.43 | th15 | GUI trigger converted to script uses "TurretZ" |
| 10:12.48 | th15 | none of these 3 names have worked |
| 10:13.39 | th15 | does make the UnitGetAttachmentPoint function a bit hard to use... |
| 10:14.12 | SycoPrime | Well, what's the raw code output for the head attachment point? |
| 10:14.32 | th15 | "Head" |
| 10:14.38 | SycoPrime | >< |
| 10:14.41 | th15 | yea :( |
| 10:15.41 | Xolsom | Can't you look in the official actors which name blizzard is using? |
| 10:16.16 | th15 | yea |
| 10:16.18 | SycoPrime | Yeah, at the weapon effect and whatnot? |
| 10:16.21 | th15 | i did that from the GUI triggers |
| 10:16.34 | th15 | the attach model to attach point trigger, to be precise |
| 10:16.45 | th15 | when converted to script, it uses "Head" and "TurretZ" as arguments |
| 10:17.24 | SycoPrime | D'oh. |
| 10:18.37 | th15 | actually you can view the list in the raw value view |
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| 10:21.09 | th15 | is there a way to validate a point? |
| 10:21.31 | th15 | UnitGetAttachmentPoint seems to be returning 655356, either that or its -1 and its wrapping around |
| 10:21.56 | Xenothral | Can anyone point me to somewhere that explains attack waves? |
| 10:22.22 | Xenothral | Because I don't seem to be able to get them to actually work. |
| 10:22.36 | Saeris | sixen, vjeux. I'm totally for a vent server. you put it up, i'll be on it. all the time |
| 10:24.35 | Sixen | :P |
| 10:25.39 | Saeris | on a side note |
| 10:26.20 | Saeris | i managed to get my professors to approve me doing Custom Map making for an Independent study course this semester |
| 10:26.26 | Saeris | so now map making is homework for me |
| 10:26.57 | Saeris | 3 units could not be more fun |
| 10:27.51 | vjeux | oh nice! |
| 10:27.55 | ProzaicMuze | If you make vent |
| 10:27.57 | ProzaicMuze | I will get on it |
| 10:28.03 | ProzaicMuze | And verbally rape you with my voice |
| 10:28.05 | ProzaicMuze | Repeatedly |
| 10:28.08 | vjeux | well, i'm not going to organize it :p |
| 10:28.11 | ProzaicMuze | Until your free will has faded away |
| 10:28.14 | ProzaicMuze | and I am your sole master |
| 10:28.19 | vjeux | but if someone else does, no problem suportingit :) |
| 10:28.43 | Saeris | i just saw the news post and i was all, YES, DO IT |
| 10:28.46 | Saeris | NOOWWWWWW |
| 10:28.49 | Saeris | lol... |
| 10:29.02 | ProzaicMuze | BTW, lots of tutorials incoming |
| 10:29.03 | ProzaicMuze | in like |
| 10:29.04 | ProzaicMuze | a few hours |
| 10:29.05 | ProzaicMuze | oh |
| 10:29.06 | ProzaicMuze | and |
| 10:29.08 | ProzaicMuze | previews |
| 10:29.12 | Saeris | sweet |
| 10:29.14 | ProzaicMuze | lemme get the youtube links lol |
| 10:29.16 | Saeris | i look forward to reading them |
| 10:29.17 | vjeux | contact the guy :) |
| 10:29.49 | Saeris | prozaic, have you found a way to add an ability via a behavior yet? |
| 10:29.55 | Saeris | i needa tackle that one next |
| 10:29.58 | ProzaicMuze | I'm sure it's possible |
| 10:30.01 | ProzaicMuze | But I haven't tried yet lol |
| 10:30.16 | Saeris | well there's the subject of your next tutorial! lol |
| 10:30.43 | Saeris | also, i have yet to find a tutorial that properly explains how the AI triggers work |
| 10:30.48 | Saeris | would be great to know |
| 10:30.57 | Xenothral | That's what I'm looking for as well. |
| 10:31.00 | Saeris | cuz right now, i simply can't make it work |
| 10:31.13 | Saeris | stuck with issue orders only =/ |
| 10:31.35 | ProzaicMuze | Toss both in the poll |
| 10:31.50 | Saeris | and seeing as I'll probably have to use just an AI to balance this map, i really need to learn that like RIGHT NOW |
| 10:31.51 | ProzaicMuze | I'm gonna be making a post in there with an apology and explanation for my disappearance |
| 10:31.53 | ProzaicMuze | More topics would be nice lol |
| 10:32.00 | th15 | do you guys know if i can use an actor message to attach an actor to another with offset? |
| 10:32.02 | vjeux | you might want to contact LabMonkey if he logs in about the AI, he is working on one |
| 10:32.15 | Saeris | i will, ty |
| 10:32.17 | th15 | i'd really like to do the whole attached unit thing without resorting to 3 layers of site operations... |
| 10:32.37 | th15 | and the existing attach unit method using triggers is a bit crap since it doesn't follow the model rotation |
| 10:32.38 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6xkRV2kryc |
| 10:32.41 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLjHR15HFnM |
| 10:32.45 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z51C9WlKJsg |
| 10:32.49 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyLYSDKA0IA |
| 10:32.52 | Saeris | creating filler AI's for my maps are a huge priority for me |
| 10:32.53 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVyHUxTgbRY |
| 10:32.57 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x10Lr9OpXMs |
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| 10:33.01 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXCI_mE5fCE |
| 10:33.05 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH_X2y4QaFE |
| 10:33.08 | Saeris | I always want players to have a full game, regardless of how many humans are actually playing |
| 10:33.12 | th15 | Prozaic: I went through the uberlisk thing you wrote |
| 10:33.14 | ProzaicMuze | The 8 tutorials I'm releasing |
| 10:33.26 | th15 | i've trying to do it but avoid the whole site operations thing |
| 10:33.51 | th15 | that's why i was hoping UnitGetAttachmentPoint would work :( |
| 10:33.55 | th15 | but it seems that function is fubar |
| 10:34.09 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 10:34.19 | Saeris | prozaic |
| 10:34.19 | ProzaicMuze | So you want to make an uberlisk with Site Operations? |
| 10:34.21 | Saeris | just so you know |
| 10:34.28 | th15 | no, without :) |
| 10:34.35 | ProzaicMuze | without* is what I mean lol |
| 10:34.37 | ProzaicMuze | meant* |
| 10:34.42 | Saeris | one of the suggested videos i got after watching that first link |
| 10:34.45 | Saeris | was the bay watch intro |
| 10:34.54 | th15 | im sure you've seen the unit attachment trigger method tutorial |
| 10:34.54 | Saeris | just thought you might find that ammusing |
| 10:34.58 | ProzaicMuze | link me |
| 10:35.01 | th15 | and im sure you noticed that its attachment... isn't as good |
| 10:35.06 | ProzaicMuze | I have |
| 10:35.08 | ProzaicMuze | And it's ok |
| 10:35.13 | ProzaicMuze | But it's ideal for multi-part units |
| 10:35.14 | Saeris | i just closed the window =( |
| 10:35.15 | th15 | it doesnt follow anymations |
| 10:35.19 | ProzaicMuze | Like destructible limbs etc |
| 10:35.23 | th15 | and Z axis rotation |
| 10:35.26 | ProzaicMuze | And yeah, that part is annoying |
| 10:35.30 | vjeux | ProzaicMuze: you should use the youtube video creator to make one big video of these small ones |
| 10:35.32 | th15 | im trying to correct that bit |
| 10:35.32 | vjeux | and i'll news it :) |
| 10:35.56 | th15 | I want to use a trigger method because i need my attachments to be dynamic |
| 10:36.02 | th15 | and doing that with data is somewhat a pain :) |
| 10:36.04 | Saeris | second one is pretty sweet |
| 10:36.35 | Saeris | one thing i want to do |
| 10:36.49 | Saeris | is change the photon cannon to do a ball lightning attack |
| 10:37.06 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 10:37.07 | Saeris | so, the orb hits the first target, but then does a lightning burst to all surrounding units |
| 10:37.22 | ProzaicMuze | I finally got Sony Vegas workin' how I want and you want me to go stumble through MORE video crap? |
| 10:37.32 | ProzaicMuze | /wrist |
| 10:37.56 | vjeux | :) |
| 10:38.34 | vjeux | the force effect is awesome |
| 10:38.44 | ProzaicMuze | When I get the tutorials posted, I'll see if I can manage something of the sort |
| 10:38.53 | Helral | meows |
| 10:38.56 | ProzaicMuze | if not, I'll make OneTwo do it |
| 10:38.59 | Saeris | i also just want to learn how to tie together animations to attacks and whatnot properly |
| 10:39.07 | Saeris | cuz now that I have that aura thing working |
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| 10:39.17 | Saeris | i needa get a bunch of aura effects from WoW and whatnot |
| 10:39.20 | Saeris | and tie them to each |
| 10:39.26 | Saeris | or make my own |
| 10:39.35 | Saeris | which again, i have no idea what to do there |
| 10:40.54 | th15 | anyone have a list of actor messages |
| 10:40.56 | th15 | ? |
| 10:41.15 | Helral | there's a list in the editor I think. |
| 10:41.24 | th15 | specificlaly im hoping for one that will tell an actor to attach itself to another |
| 10:41.34 | th15 | hmm |
| 10:41.51 | th15 | ah you're right |
| 10:41.52 | th15 | my bad |
| 10:42.18 | Helral | just go to the libraries, build-in, Actors, Message Constructions |
| 10:42.43 | th15 | any idea what the "Attach Dump" message does? |
| 10:42.49 | Saeris | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuYrRebvFHc&NR=1 |
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| 10:42.55 | Saeris | this was linked in your videos |
| 10:42.57 | Saeris | prozaic |
| 10:43.05 | Saeris | i have no idea why |
| 10:44.20 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 10:44.26 | ProzaicMuze | it's probably because I haven't set any tags yet |
| 10:44.30 | ProzaicMuze | or even a description |
| 10:44.33 | th15 | Prozaic: Looks like I can attach stuff using site operations in trigger, which might open up dynamic versions of what you've done with the uberlisk |
| 10:44.51 | Saeris | oh, wait i know why |
| 10:44.58 | Saeris | it's because you use Intro in many of the names |
| 10:45.03 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 10:45.08 | Saeris | and bay watch intro has been viewed the most out of many of them |
| 10:45.09 | Saeris | lol |
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| 10:45.22 | Saeris | wow, youtube is quite dumb some times >.< |
| 10:45.42 | ProzaicMuze | What do you mean by dynamic? |
| 10:45.47 | ProzaicMuze | And yeah |
| 10:45.53 | ProzaicMuze | search engines have strange results |
| 10:45.55 | th15 | imagine being able to add/remove the spines in-game |
| 10:45.56 | Phaos | sup'all |
| 10:46.03 | th15 | rather than through the data editor |
| 10:46.35 | th15 | the triggers have access to the same actor messages you used for the unitcreate event |
| 10:46.46 | ProzaicMuze | Ah |
| 10:46.53 | ProzaicMuze | Well, technically you can do the same thing with the Data Editor |
| 10:47.03 | ProzaicMuze | Triggers just take what you can already do with the editor and attach them to a UI |
| 10:47.10 | Saeris | well, brilliant work prozaic, i look forward to reading a few of those |
| 10:47.14 | ProzaicMuze | :) |
| 10:47.27 | Clord | lol I did read in SC2 SEA forum one card suggestion for my map what would be something like martyr card ^^ |
| 10:47.29 | Saeris | will definitely help me out these next 3 weeks |
| 10:47.33 | Saeris | so much work to do >.< |
| 10:47.44 | Clord | higher exp guys would get free to use cards what would spawn non combat unit what gives bounty to enemy |
| 10:47.45 | Clord | XD |
| 10:47.49 | th15 | its just that sorting through all of these different layers of actors is giving me a headache |
| 10:47.55 | th15 | Clord: you made card game right? |
| 10:48.05 | Clord | yeah yeah |
| 10:48.13 | th15 | you planning to do anything about bank security? |
| 10:48.17 | th15 | im at 9999999 exp right now :) |
| 10:48.19 | Saeris | spent the last 5 days just trying to get my testing AI working right, so I can start adding in abilities/upgrades en mass and test them all |
| 10:48.45 | Clord | I have not yet tried to leanr encrypting with triggers |
| 10:48.46 | Clord | lol |
| 10:48.50 | Clord | XD |
| 10:48.53 | Clord | learn...... |
| 10:49.02 | th15 | theres existing algorithms that you can lift from WC3 even |
| 10:49.07 | th15 | then just save the bank in string instead |
| 10:49.15 | Helral | Clord: Medium Level card - Spawns an unit, on killing of this unit three enemy units within range also die, enemy players get 10 of each resource XD |
| 10:49.38 | th15 | i mean, if you're planning to attach game effects to exp, it starts becoming a problem |
| 10:49.51 | Clord | I assume it works something like this... take integer numbers and turn them to strings.. then reverse when needed |
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| 10:50.16 | th15 | nah, rot13 won't do crap for you :) |
| 10:50.22 | Nash|327 | rot(13) ftw! |
| 10:50.27 | th15 | because even random numbers will still increase their exp |
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| 10:51.02 | Clord | hehe didn't even knew it got term like that |
| 10:51.15 | th15 | everything starts with rot 13 :) |
| 10:51.21 | th15 | err everyone |
| 10:51.29 | Saeris | ugh, it's 4am, I have half an AMF left to drink, and I'm starting to drift off |
| 10:51.31 | Clord | but I could use multiple numbers... use some multipliers and then turn them to string ^^ |
| 10:51.32 | Saeris | >.< |
| 10:51.35 | Saeris | damnit |
| 10:51.43 | Clord | and if any of those numbers reversed back not match to same number |
| 10:51.45 | Clord | reset! |
| 10:51.46 | Clord | XD |
| 10:51.51 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:51.56 | th15 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARC4 |
| 10:52.01 | th15 | simpler to just use the code they give :) |
| 10:52.30 | Megalon | if rot13 is not enough you can always apply it twice |
| 10:52.39 | Clord | you make my head hurt |
| 10:52.48 | Clord | th15 |
| 10:52.49 | Clord | XD |
| 10:53.05 | Clord | yeah... rot13 sounds something like what I can possibly implement alone |
| 10:53.07 | Clord | :) |
| 10:53.09 | th15 | heh :) |
| 10:53.17 | th15 | arc4 is just like, 7 lines :) |
| 10:53.31 | th15 | well to generate the key anyways heh |
| 10:53.33 | Nash|327 | stream ciphers yo |
| 10:54.04 | Clord | if rot13 also takes user name to that calcucation etc |
| 10:54.05 | Clord | voila |
| 10:54.06 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:54.09 | vjeux | well, it's kinda hard to apply to galaxy |
| 10:54.18 | vjeux | as there isn't any real bit stream api available |
| 10:55.01 | Nash|327 | Could just do Vigenere :P |
| 10:55.46 | Nash|327 | can be cracked but is anyone going to bother with frequency analysis and repeating patterns crap? :G |
| 10:56.06 | Helral | rot13? Rise of the Triad 13? XD |
| 10:56.09 | th15 | Nash: pretty sure no one is going to care :) |
| 10:56.18 | th15 | besides, generating 1gb of traffic in the bank is quite a feat :) |
| 10:56.23 | th15 | and i need to run, cya |
| 10:56.27 | Clord | Helral... fail.. it was rott |
| 10:56.29 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:56.32 | Helral | XD know |
| 10:56.37 | Clord | yeah ;) |
| 10:56.43 | Helral | but I just had to think of RotT |
| 10:57.29 | vjeux | btw, your algorithm can be complicated as hell |
| 10:57.48 | Helral | yeah make your algorithms as complicated as me XD |
| 10:57.56 | Xenothral | How do you allow units to attack on the move? |
| 10:58.01 | vjeux | cracked! :p |
| 10:58.02 | vjeux | people can just download the map, edit the triggers so it encodes your message and voila |
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| 10:58.51 | Clord | if it is used as learning system... cheating has not really that much effect |
| 10:58.52 | vjeux | therefore i wouldn't really care too much about implementing a complicated algorithm |
| 10:58.53 | Clord | but yeah |
| 10:59.01 | Clord | I don't feel like making exp for now do anything |
| 10:59.04 | Clord | other than tell rank |
| 10:59.07 | Clord | and boast for your allies |
| 10:59.09 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:59.16 | Xenothral | I suppose a better question would be, how do you allow a unit that you can load things into attack on the move? |
| 10:59.17 | vjeux | since it takes the same amount of effort to break a simple algorithm or the hardest |
| 10:59.18 | Nash|327 | download a locked map? |
| 10:59.38 | Helral | make 1 that includes a bit of virus code, on opening map, delete algorithm XD |
| 10:59.38 | vjeux | when you play it you download it |
| 10:59.51 | Nash|327 | but it's locked |
| 11:00.10 | vjeux | the locking just consists in deleting Triggers.xml :p |
| 11:00.13 | Helral | you can still read the xml trigger data or something. |
| 11:00.23 | Helral | ow the galaxy file that is generated then XD |
| 11:00.24 | vjeux | the galaxy version is still available |
| 11:00.44 | Nash|327 | hah, great |
| 11:01.07 | vjeux | they plan to add more locking features in the future |
| 11:01.35 | Nash|327 | won't hold my breath |
| 11:02.01 | Helral | new locking feature, it now contains a keyhole through which you can see everything XD |
| 11:02.10 | ZarafFaraz | anyone know what making a variable constant does? I know that you can't change it, but is there any reason to make it constant aside from not being able to change it? |
| 11:02.23 | vjeux | ZarafFaraz: not in the gui |
| 11:02.27 | Helral | you can use it in events. |
| 11:02.41 | vjeux | but in galaxy you can use it as array size for example |
| 11:02.41 | ZarafFaraz | oh interesting |
| 11:02.47 | vjeux | oh shit didn't know :p |
| 11:02.51 | Helral | XD |
| 11:03.01 | Helral | constant variables can be used in events, since they don't change. |
| 11:03.10 | vjeux | const int size = 8; int buf[8]; |
| 11:03.14 | vjeux | const int size = 8; int buf[size]; |
| 11:03.30 | Helral | vjeux: too bad that the gui doesn't allow arrays. |
| 11:03.34 | vjeux | but this cannot be done in gui :( |
| 11:03.39 | Helral | well array with variables |
| 11:03.40 | Helral | that is |
| 11:03.51 | vjeux | which is lame |
| 11:03.53 | Helral | yup |
| 11:03.59 | Saeris | hey helral, i have a question for you |
| 11:04.02 | Helral | hides |
| 11:04.23 | Helral | XD what's the question? |
| 11:04.36 | Saeris | you know in your dialog item templates asset, you went and reorganized the command card and put it in a dialog? |
| 11:04.49 | ZarafFaraz | wait, you can have arrays in GUI....what is it you're talking about that can't be done in GUI? |
| 11:04.50 | Saeris | happen to know if i can put the command card in a single row? |
| 11:04.57 | Saeris | ala WoW action bar |
| 11:05.04 | Helral | not using my asset, since it uses the default stuff. |
| 11:05.13 | Helral | but you might want to take a look at Motives asset. |
| 11:05.20 | ZarafFaraz | Saeris, you could just make all of the buttons as dialogs |
| 11:05.31 | Helral | he has an actionbar feature that reads the default commandcard and generates an actionbar. |
| 11:06.02 | Saeris | mmmm, making each button a dialog is not someone i want to do. i just wanted to know if it was possible to reorder the command card in to one row |
| 11:06.08 | Saeris | alright |
| 11:06.13 | Saeris | i'll look in to it |
| 11:06.23 | ZarafFaraz | well couldn't you just have a single dialog with multiple buttons on it? |
| 11:06.24 | Helral | well Saeris: what you can do: |
| 11:06.35 | Helral | create 3 dialogs, and 3 times the command card. |
| 11:06.51 | Helral | then position the command card in the dialogs so that they line up like it is 1 line. |
| 11:07.05 | Saeris | zaraf: i just want to avoid dialogs because this would have to work for a large number of units, I want it to be all created dynamically |
| 11:07.21 | Saeris | hmmm |
| 11:07.26 | Helral | Saeris: Motive's asset is dynamic XD |
| 11:07.29 | Saeris | that is a good idea helral |
| 11:08.00 | Saeris | when i'm not tired and inebriated, I'll give both a try |
| 11:08.03 | SycoPrime | You can put command cards into dialogs? |
| 11:08.45 | Saeris | it's probably a bit too complicated to include in my contest map, but I would like to learn how to do it for future maps besides |
| 11:08.52 | Helral | SycoPrime: yeah using the dialog item templates |
| 11:10.11 | Saeris | ugh |
| 11:10.13 | Saeris | it's 4am |
| 11:10.23 | Saeris | i have 1/3rd of a drink to finish |
| 11:10.24 | ZarafFaraz | 5 am for me |
| 11:10.25 | SycoPrime | Is there a list of those templates somewhere? |
| 11:10.27 | Saeris | i'm exhausted |
| 11:10.37 | Saeris | and i have class at 1am tomorrow, an hour away form here |
| 11:10.37 | Helral | SycoPrime: Dialog Item Templates Asset. |
| 11:10.43 | Saeris | er |
| 11:10.44 | Saeris | 1pm |
| 11:10.50 | Saeris | fuck me i'm tired |
| 11:11.05 | ZarafFaraz | class for what? |
| 11:11.11 | Saeris | japanese zZz |
| 11:11.14 | Clord | hehe my cards... five dialogs... five buttons... ^^ |
| 11:11.23 | Clord | and each discard button has own dialogs |
| 11:11.23 | Clord | XD |
| 11:11.49 | Helral | Azu-nyan!!!! |
| 11:11.57 | Azu | nyan~~~~~ |
| 11:12.01 | Helral | XD |
| 11:12.33 | Clord | basically my map..... has not really optimized dialog usage... but it makes editing of system easier |
| 11:12.34 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:12.59 | Helral | Clord you should see my map for dialog usage XD |
| 11:13.00 | ZarafFaraz | with the burrow/unburrow skill, I've noticed that each unit has its own "version" of the ability. Is there a single command you can issue to ANY of the units that are able to burrow to make them burrow? Without having to give them their specific command? |
| 11:13.03 | Saeris | so.... just surveying here. how many of your are submitting a map to the Blizzcon custom Map Contest? |
| 11:13.11 | Saeris | of you* |
| 11:13.21 | ZarafFaraz | I don't think mine will be ready in time |
| 11:13.34 | Clord | I submitted one even thought I don't believe that it wins as it is variation of my already published map |
| 11:14.09 | ZarafFaraz | Helral, what kind of map you making? |
| 11:14.16 | SycoPrime | Zara: Commands are typically grouped. You should be able to issue the same command (Burrow: Zergling) to all, and they'll each interperet in their own way and do it. |
| 11:14.27 | Azu | he is makin a nyan nyan map |
| 11:14.31 | Helral | ZarafFaraz: my map is a random dungeon map. |
| 11:14.37 | ZarafFaraz | Syco, I've tried that before but it didn't work |
| 11:14.37 | SycoPrime | Saeris: I am. Though I do not forsee victory. |
| 11:14.38 | Saeris | yea if it bares any resemblance to an already published map, it probably won't be considered |
| 11:14.39 | Saeris | but gl |
| 11:14.46 | ZarafFaraz | Helral, you got a working version yet or still early? |
| 11:15.11 | Saeris | well, gl to you too syco |
| 11:15.13 | Helral | ZarafFaraz: yeah I got a working version. but all you can do is bash mobs, loot 4 different items, equip 3 of those and use 1. |
| 11:15.29 | SycoPrime | Zara: *Shrug* Just repeating what the tooltip says in the data editor :/ |
| 11:15.37 | Saeris | i'm hoping mine will hold their attention, but I've got so much busy work to do left |
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| 11:15.50 | ZarafFaraz | hmm...I'm try it again then |
| 11:15.56 | Leaderboard | Hi |
| 11:16.00 | Leaderboard | or hey back :p |
| 11:16.09 | Clord | basically it is "Xel'naga's Card Abyss Arena" ^^ it has different tile set... different bases, bit different balance and 10 card on hand support XD |
| 11:16.11 | Helral | meows |
| 11:16.18 | Saeris | got most of it working already, just got to repeat it all for 50+ abilities and go and add a fuck ton of help menu and tooltip edits |
| 11:16.19 | Azu | :D |
| 11:16.37 | Clord | it has also better terrain work bit |
| 11:16.38 | Clord | :) |
| 11:16.40 | SycoPrime | So Helral, how do I know what to put in the templates? There are no presets, I'm really not sure where to look. |
| 11:16.41 | Saeris | it isn't hard, just totally time consuming |
| 11:17.08 | mattavich-377 | Good moring mappers |
| 11:17.10 | Helral | SycoPrime:http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/dialog-item-templates/ |
| 11:17.12 | ZarafFaraz | morning |
| 11:17.25 | Clord | without space |
| 11:17.30 | Clord | you made link unclickable |
| 11:17.30 | Clord | XD |
| 11:17.32 | SycoPrime | Good morning mattavich. |
| 11:17.49 | Helral | good afternoon |
| 11:17.52 | Saeris | morning to you is bed time for me |
| 11:17.52 | Huesy | Leaderboard: Sorry was afk before, I'd love to have a look at your TPS lib |
| 11:18.02 | Helral | pff just copy paste the link XD |
| 11:18.23 | Leaderboard | hi mattavich-377, and Huesy, i'm sorry but I don't have the library right now |
| 11:18.40 | Huesy | No worries :) |
| 11:18.40 | Clord | that dialog item template would be useful probably for my card additional information window |
| 11:18.41 | Clord | but meh |
| 11:18.42 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:18.43 | mattavich-377 | :) |
| 11:19.02 | Leaderboard | You'll have to wait more than 1 week, because I forget to send this library to my mail |
| 11:19.07 | SycoPrime | Thank you, Helral. |
| 11:19.30 | Leaderboard | so mattavich, what about Obelisk Hellfire |
| 11:20.03 | mattavich-377 | Added a few gimmicks last night, when a hero dies a text tag appears and says "ownage!" or somehting |
| 11:20.09 | ZarafFaraz | hey Helral |
| 11:20.13 | ZarafFaraz | you made that Achievement library? |
| 11:20.30 | mattavich-377 | Added a scanner sweep to the obelisk, so you can look around the map more and reveal cloaked units |
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| 11:20.42 | mattavich-377 | you said cloaked units were OP, so that is a new option |
| 11:20.52 | Leaderboard | Ah, good idea I tought those cloaked units were overpowered |
| 11:20.57 | mattavich-377 | Increased speed of observer |
| 11:21.10 | Leaderboard | What about rally poinst ? |
| 11:21.12 | Leaderboard | poinst* |
| 11:21.13 | Leaderboard | >< |
| 11:21.14 | ZarafFaraz | Helral: did you make that achievement library? |
| 11:21.17 | mattavich-377 | and also made heros art - scale slightly bigger as well as x-plodie bugs and observer |
| 11:21.25 | Leaderboard | Good ! |
| 11:21.39 | Leaderboard | Looks like all is balanced now ? |
| 11:21.41 | mattavich-377 | Units are not created by the obelisk, they are created by a point behind it |
| 11:21.46 | mattavich-377 | so i dont know how you can set a rally point |
| 11:22.16 | mattavich-377 | The one thing I'm having trouble with is the abilities of heros |
| 11:22.18 | Leaderboard | right |
| 11:22.22 | Leaderboard | what is it ? |
| 11:22.27 | mattavich-377 | I still dont know how to upgrade them each 150 kills |
| 11:22.33 | Nash|327 | A cheapo way would be a Rally Point unit :P |
| 11:22.36 | Helral | ZarafFaraz: a long time ago :P |
| 11:22.40 | Leaderboard | uh |
| 11:22.48 | Leaderboard | Maybe remove abilitie + add the new abilitie |
| 11:22.54 | Leaderboard | You tried that ? |
| 11:22.54 | Helral | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/achievement-library/ <-- that one right? |
| 11:23.01 | mattavich-377 | I need a good tutorial |
| 11:23.07 | Leaderboard | it's not that hard :o |
| 11:23.14 | Leaderboard | there's not "remove abilitie" trigger ? |
| 11:23.15 | Leaderboard | no* |
| 11:23.25 | mattavich-377 | Oh I see what you're saying |
| 11:23.30 | Leaderboard | :p |
| 11:23.31 | Saeris | alright guys, I think i'm gonna call it a night |
| 11:23.40 | Saeris | cya all tomorrow night, at some point |
| 11:23.42 | mattavich-377 | Every 150 kills remove ability X, then add ability X level 2? |
| 11:23.45 | Leaderboard | gbye Saeris |
| 11:23.45 | mattavich-377 | bb m8 |
| 11:23.50 | Leaderboard | yes mattavich :) |
| 11:24.07 | Leaderboard | it would works |
| 11:24.38 | Leaderboard | eh, don't forget to add some text tags at the center of the map like "Come here you'll have unit upgrades" |
| 11:25.32 | Leaderboard | and some new abilities as well, not only upgrades ;p |
| 11:25.40 | Leaderboard | more micro from heros :) |
| 11:25.47 | Leaderboard | heroes*. |
| 11:25.58 | mattavich-377 | How do i add tips? |
| 11:26.02 | mattavich-377 | Like you see in a cmapaign |
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| 11:26.37 | Leaderboard | I never tried that |
| 11:27.08 | Leaderboard | just download one of those map campagins |
| 11:27.09 | Clord | now I start get to hang why library is useful feature |
| 11:27.12 | Clord | that helral one is nice |
| 11:27.27 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:27.33 | Clord | I might have actual use for it |
| 11:27.51 | Leaderboard | mattavich-377 : File -> dependencies -> Add...and search for the first mission of the campaign, look at the triggers and be patient :P |
| 11:27.53 | Leaderboard | tell me if you found |
| 11:28.00 | Leaderboard | if not, I will open my editor on this crap PC |
| 11:28.27 | Clord | espically that showable unit information dialog |
| 11:28.28 | Clord | =) |
| 11:29.00 | mattavich-377 | I think i'll get these abilities done and then i'll start looking at the help stuff |
| 11:30.34 | Leaderboard | Boh ! Ok, I open my editor, just for you :p |
| 11:30.38 | ZarafFaraz | Helral: do you know if there is a way to emulate the Blizzard achievement animation and everything? Rather than just a dialog box appearing and then disappearing (like in your library)? |
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| 11:31.05 | Helral | ZarafFaraz: at that time trying to achieve that caused a game crash. |
| 11:31.05 | mattavich-377 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.09 | mattavich-377 | ok so i need to add levels? |
| 11:31.15 | Leaderboard | mattavich-377 no |
| 11:31.22 | ZarafFaraz | oh? what about now? |
| 11:31.29 | Leaderboard | mattavich-377 you just need to remove it, and add a new one |
| 11:32.10 | Leaderboard | Because the Psi Storm don't have levels |
| 11:32.14 | Helral | dunno haven't tried it. |
| 11:32.26 | Leaderboard | hey maybe you can use Nash triggers, wait |
| 11:32.44 | ZarafFaraz | how did you access the animation and everything? |
| 11:32.50 | ZarafFaraz | cause I've been trying to find it |
| 11:33.03 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 11:33.05 | Leaderboard | Don't do anything mattavich :p |
| 11:33.12 | Leaderboard | ah Nash, you're finally here |
| 11:33.20 | Leaderboard | Mattavich need a ability upgrade system |
| 11:33.25 | Leaderboard | and abilities over time |
| 11:33.30 | Nash|327 | I never upgrade abilities |
| 11:33.32 | Leaderboard | over kills* |
| 11:33.35 | Leaderboard | eh :( |
| 11:33.54 | mattavich-377 | the system for when to apply the upgrade is already in place |
| 11:33.55 | Nash|327 | they only have 1 level |
| 11:34.05 | mattavich-377 | i just need to know what action removes and applies the ability i cant find it |
| 11:34.22 | Helral | ZarafFaraz: I just tried to create a custom achievement, and the use it with the achievement stuff. |
| 11:34.30 | Helral|away | I'll be back later |
| 11:34.43 | Leaderboard | Maybe should you take a look at some DoTa map mattavich-377 |
| 11:34.53 | Leaderboard | I can't help you, crap PC, can't open the editor |
| 11:35.41 | ZarafFaraz | holy shit, Helral's logic in his random dungeon generator is insane |
| 11:36.05 | ZarafFaraz | if not or not and or not blah blah then.... |
| 11:36.33 | Leaderboard | I love If Then Else, too. |
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| 11:36.49 | Nash|327 | mattavich-377, any reason why you're not using a Veterancy? |
| 11:37.20 | Leaderboard | what the hell is that ? |
| 11:37.37 | crazyfingers | anyone here familiar with exporting animations through max? |
| 11:38.12 | ZarafFaraz | no sorry |
| 11:38.20 | Leaderboard | no. |
| 11:38.25 | ZarafFaraz | anyone know how to stop a unit from appearing on the mini-map? |
| 11:38.32 | Leaderboard | huh |
| 11:38.39 | Leaderboard | ZarafFaraz |
| 11:38.45 | Leaderboard | I think you can't change it with the data |
| 11:38.57 | Leaderboard | What do you exactly want to do ? |
| 11:39.01 | Nash|327 | set minimap icon to something else |
| 11:39.07 | Leaderboard | yes |
| 11:39.15 | Nash|327 | like, dummy crap or 1 pixel |
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| 11:39.18 | ZarafFaraz | I'm using the destructible called Scrap |
| 11:39.28 | ZarafFaraz | but it creates a bit white square on the mini-map |
| 11:39.31 | ZarafFaraz | I don't want that |
| 11:39.35 | ZarafFaraz | bit = big |
| 11:40.29 | Clord | I wonder what is exact size of default unit info window |
| 11:40.37 | Clord | I try to find good width and height for it |
| 11:40.37 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:40.44 | Nash|327 | Minimap Raduis |
| 11:40.52 | Leaderboard | yes |
| 11:40.54 | Leaderboard | set it to 0 |
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| 11:40.57 | Leaderboard | in the data |
| 11:41.47 | SycoPrime | It seems like units with 2 weapons will use only one (presumably the more powerful?) even if both are in range. Is there any way to have them use both? |
| 11:42.39 | Leaderboard | I don't think so, I don't know any unit wich can do that |
| 11:42.48 | Clord | 500, 250 is almost perfect for unit info from library |
| 11:42.49 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:43.46 | Clord | there is whine how they want to see card units actual information |
| 11:43.57 | Clord | so I give them via that library's help what helral made |
| 11:44.04 | Clord | window to show information |
| 11:44.56 | SycoPrime | Not even getting it to attack 2 separate enemies? :/ |
| 11:45.28 | ZarafFaraz | thanks, the mini-map radius to zero worked! |
| 11:45.47 | Clord | actually... units like leviathan has tons attacks |
| 11:45.48 | Clord | lol |
| 11:45.54 | ZarafFaraz | and yeah Syco, I tried it out again and now the burrow/unburrow is working for all of the units :) |
| 11:46.13 | SycoPrime | Zara: Cool! |
| 11:46.42 | Huesy | Is there any way to toggle the "unselectable"/"untargetable" flags (or any flags) via actions in-game? |
| 11:47.01 | Clord | make unit uncommandable trigger |
| 11:47.06 | Clord | or commandable |
| 11:47.16 | SycoPrime | Clord: Weapons array says 2. Still doesn't answer if he can use 1 weapon on 1 enemy & another on another enemy at the same time. |
| 11:47.24 | Huesy | Will give it a go, cheers |
| 11:47.29 | SycoPrime | His other stuff just spawns allies, not technically part of the weapons array :/ |
| 11:48.47 | SycoPrime | Hmm...Uberlisk could do that, right? *Rolls eyes* That's getting a bit complex, though. Trying to remember if those were attached units or part of the regular arsenal... |
| 11:48.55 | Clord | take look goliath... it shoots with two weapons... but.... other weapon does not deal actual damage |
| 11:48.57 | Clord | so :/ |
| 11:49.04 | Clord | I think you are screwed |
| 11:49.19 | Clord | unless you use some weird attachement method to give multiple weapons XD |
| 11:50.37 | Clord | I gotta credit "helral" about his library |
| 11:50.39 | Clord | very useful |
| 11:50.46 | Clord | XD |
| 11:50.46 | SycoPrime | Really, I was just hoping to enable the Carrier - hangar ability for...well, anythingish :/ |
| 11:51.02 | Clord | Helral gets credited in THE Card Game credits from today =) |
| 11:51.11 | Otixa | Tinman |
| 11:51.15 | Otixa | stabs Tinman |
| 11:51.42 | Clord | oh and I gotta credit active community members who keeps make suggestions |
| 11:51.43 | Clord | :) |
| 11:53.15 | HP-X|Arthas | Good morning! |
| 11:53.24 | Leaderboard | Clord, add the LEADERBOARD unit. |
| 11:53.32 | Leaderboard | Most powerful. |
| 11:53.50 | Leaderboard | It's like a Joker in a card game :D |
| 11:56.09 | Leaderboard | Ok |
| 11:56.14 | Leaderboard | get back |
| 11:57.04 | ZarafFaraz | is it possible to create doodads via triggers? |
| 11:57.19 | Clord | actually joker card would be more |
| 11:57.22 | Clord | it can be anything |
| 11:57.23 | Clord | XD |
| 11:57.36 | SycoPrime | Okay, if a unit has multiple weapons, would it be possible to have a command card button or some such that orders attack with a specific weapon maybe? |
| 11:58.19 | ZarafFaraz | Anyone know if it's possible to create doodads via triggers? |
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| 11:58.42 | Tinman | What Otixa! |
| 11:58.47 | Nash|327 | you could make it switch between weapons? |
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| 11:59.05 | ducken | anyone here |
| 11:59.07 | SycoPrime | Nash: How do you figure? |
| 11:59.30 | Nash|327 | there's Weapons Enabled Weapons Disabled in one of the data types |
| 11:59.35 | Nash|327 | I think Behavior |
| 11:59.42 | SycoPrime | Hmm |
| 11:59.58 | Otixa | Tinman, see PM ;p |
| 12:00.06 | ProzaicMuze | Yes, see me |
| 12:00.11 | SycoPrime | Thank you. I'll give that a shot... |
| 12:00.12 | ProzaicMuze | is seen |
| 12:00.19 | ZarafFaraz | Nash, Syco....do you know of a way to create doodads via triggers? |
| 12:00.24 | Nash|327 | negative |
| 12:00.36 | Nash|327 | Yes, Buff, Weapons Enabled/Disabled |
| 12:00.37 | ducken | this is really silly, but where do i place custom maps once downloaded? i've checked all the map sites and there's no FAQ or about that explains how to actually boot em up |
| 12:00.54 | ZarafFaraz | just open them in your editor |
| 12:00.58 | ZarafFaraz | and "test" them |
| 12:00.58 | SycoPrime | Zara: I don't know how to create a doodad at all. |
| 12:00.58 | Nash|327 | so make a toggle Buff that changes weapons |
| 12:01.34 | Otixa | smacks ProzaicMuze |
| 12:01.36 | SycoPrime | ducken: You can also drag a map onto the SC2 desktop icon (if you kept it), and it'll launch straight into it. |
| 12:01.53 | ducken | thanks |
| 12:01.56 | ProzaicMuze | dodges |
| 12:01.57 | vjeux | grrr, i'm not managing to install memcached on windows :( |
| 12:02.09 | Nash|327 | Basically, an Ability of type Behavior |
| 12:02.17 | Nash|327 | when you use it, it swaps guns |
| 12:02.21 | SycoPrime | Nash, I know how to do it. Thank you ;) |
| 12:02.30 | SycoPrime | I just need to figure out of it'll work now. |
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| 12:08.21 | Clord | I have tons extra work... I need add more variables for each card to calcucate upgrade boost prices better ;) |
| 12:08.35 | Leaderboard | omg, vjeux is french :p |
| 12:08.40 | Clord | yeah |
| 12:08.45 | Clord | I actually understand what he says |
| 12:08.47 | vjeux | am i !? |
| 12:08.49 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:08.52 | Clord | it is quite feat |
| 12:08.53 | Leaderboard | I saw your interface ! |
| 12:08.53 | Clord | lol |
| 12:09.03 | vjeux | what interface? |
| 12:09.08 | ProzaicMuze | BTW, have I mentioned you can make weapons/behaviors/buffs etc scale/tint/etc their target? |
| 12:09.13 | Leaderboard | in the news |
| 12:09.16 | Leaderboard | (Absent) |
| 12:09.17 | Leaderboard | Vous : |
| 12:09.22 | vjeux | oh :p |
| 12:09.26 | ProzaicMuze | As opposed to adding a scale event to every unit |
| 12:09.31 | HP-X|Arthas | vjeux has excellent english compared to most frenchies ive spoken to! |
| 12:09.37 | ProzaicMuze | Vjeux isn't french |
| 12:09.40 | ProzaicMuze | He's an alien |
| 12:09.41 | Clord | vjeux... almost entire youtube flamed you |
| 12:09.42 | HP-X|Arthas | in short, he is awesome |
| 12:09.42 | Clord | lol |
| 12:09.43 | Clord | XD |
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| 12:09.50 | Leaderboard | Je dois dire que je l'ignorais :p |
| 12:09.50 | Clord | I was about only one who said something positive |
| 12:09.53 | Clord | lol |
| 12:10.06 | ProzaicMuze | Ew french language |
| 12:10.09 | ProzaicMuze | gags |
| 12:10.11 | Leaderboard | Yellow. |
| 12:10.24 | ProzaicMuze | The french teacher from high school was an old lady |
| 12:10.27 | HP-X|Arthas | Ewwww, swedish school. We have to pick french or dutch :< |
| 12:10.37 | ProzaicMuze | She drank coffee mixed with vodka |
| 12:10.37 | ProzaicMuze | every day |
| 12:10.42 | vjeux | lol |
| 12:10.43 | HP-X|Arthas | I picked french and Ive successfully cleared my head of all the knowledge! |
| 12:10.54 | ProzaicMuze | I never really enjoyed french after meeting her |
| 12:10.56 | HP-X|Arthas | It took me 8 years, but its almost done! |
| 12:10.57 | Tinman | Clord we should totally play some games! |
| 12:11.00 | ProzaicMuze | She spoke drunk french |
| 12:11.01 | Tinman | You also vjeux |
| 12:11.02 | vjeux | we have the same teachers for english, guess why french suck in english :p |
| 12:11.05 | ProzaicMuze | the worst kind of language known to man Xp |
| 12:11.10 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 12:11.35 | ProzaicMuze | I think everyone sucks at english because people try to teach ACTUAL english in foreign countries (foreign to USA that is) |
| 12:11.42 | ProzaicMuze | So they get here speaking better english than us |
| 12:11.58 | ProzaicMuze | And we're all confused because they'e speaking proper english |
| 12:12.05 | vjeux | :p |
| 12:12.05 | ProzaicMuze | they're* |
| 12:12.13 | ProzaicMuze | If they taught slang, it'd be perfect |
| 12:12.17 | ProzaicMuze | Lazy English ftw :D |
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| 12:12.54 | Clord | leave him alone.. french is endangered species |
| 12:12.54 | HP-X|Arthas | Indeed, I speak queen's english |
| 12:12.55 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 12:12.56 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:13.03 | Clord | lol... Futurama |
| 12:14.19 | Clord | I'm not sure what language was that futurama made fun of |
| 12:14.24 | Clord | but year 3000 nobody nearly knew it |
| 12:14.52 | Tinman | I think South Park has made fun of almost everything by now |
| 12:15.08 | Tinman | At least offended everyone once |
| 12:15.14 | HP-X|Arthas | "offended" |
| 12:15.19 | HP-X|Arthas | only if they are easily offended |
| 12:15.26 | Tinman | Religions |
| 12:15.50 | HP-X|Arthas | i did however love the episode where they stated that the danes are the canucks of europe :P |
| 12:16.07 | Tinman | Everyone believes in something ;) |
| 12:17.04 | HP-X|Arthas | still doesnt mean they need to be offended :p |
| 12:18.13 | Tinman | Yes, when they pull out T&P and totally fart on their faces, everyone gets offended! |
| 12:18.53 | Tinman | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On3etueeGIg |
| 12:19.51 | HP-X|Arthas | O_o |
| 12:20.28 | Leaderboard | This one is better |
| 12:20.28 | Leaderboard | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_X0t3Zscw |
| 12:21.15 | Tinman | wow |
| 12:21.55 | mattavich-377 | For those who want to set damage through abilities there's a good post here |
| 12:21.56 | mattavich-377 | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/galaxy-scripting-and-trigger-lib/7428-inflict-damage-on-unit-warcraft-3-editor-style/ |
| 12:22.05 | mattavich-377 | Although it is not quite working for me yet |
| 12:24.30 | ProzaicMuze | wtf |
| 12:24.40 | ProzaicMuze | I keep mispelling Observer as Oberserver |
| 12:24.43 | Leaderboard | You still don't have it mattavich ? |
| 12:24.55 | ProzaicMuze | It's like I'm trying to spell Uberserver Xp |
| 12:24.57 | Tinman | This is always a win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYnsfV5N2n8 |
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| 12:25.16 | Tinman | folowed by: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKB4h9gvmm0&feature=related |
| 12:26.25 | SycoPrime | Okay, Nash, I'll have to take back what I said. Apparently I DON'T know how to do it :( |
| 12:26.42 | SycoPrime | I created an Ability - Behavior, and a Behavior which disables the weapons. This worked fine. |
| 12:26.54 | SycoPrime | Only, when I click the "On" button, both "on" and "off" disappear from CC. |
| 12:27.04 | Leaderboard | omg Tinman xD |
| 12:27.44 | Nash|327 | just look at Cloak |
| 12:28.13 | Nash|327 | Cloak = toggled Behavior :G |
| 12:28.27 | SycoPrime | Forgot to set the flag to toggle. |
| 12:28.29 | SycoPrime | Yup. |
| 12:28.35 | SycoPrime | Thanks again. |
| 12:35.54 | Nash|327 | I need people with shitty computers on EU |
| 12:36.07 | Leaderboard | I have a shitty shitty computer |
| 12:36.14 | Leaderboard | That can't handle Starcraft |
| 12:36.18 | Nash|327 | you didn't crash though |
| 12:36.20 | Leaderboard | You really want me to connect ? |
| 12:36.25 | Leaderboard | That wasn't the same PC |
| 12:36.36 | madsquare | publishing sucks |
| 12:36.42 | Nash|327 | well if it can't handle SC isn't not really relevant |
| 12:36.55 | Nash|327 | I need people with shitty computers that can play SC2 D_D |
| 12:37.48 | Leaderboard | :p. |
| 12:38.18 | Clord | people usually with bad computers not buy game like that |
| 12:38.25 | Clord | XD |
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| 12:40.07 | HP-X|Arthas | I have a laptop that runs the game somewhat smooth on low settings :p |
| 12:40.12 | Clord | yes yes |
| 12:40.18 | Clord | but you have also computer what can run it well |
| 12:40.20 | Clord | ;) |
| 12:40.23 | HP-X|Arthas | at work for another eternity though |
| 12:40.27 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: yeah |
| 12:40.41 | ProzaicMuze | Gah, I have 27 PMs I need to reply to and at least 10 forum posts since I was last available rofl |
| 12:40.42 | HP-X|Arthas | I alt+tabbed 10 times during 1 alt+tab a friend did |
| 12:40.46 | ProzaicMuze | I have a long day ahead of me Xp |
| 12:40.50 | HP-X|Arthas | 8GB > 4GB ram |
| 12:41.18 | ProzaicMuze | Identical GFX cards, boards, CPUs and OS? |
| 12:41.39 | ProzaicMuze | Since 4GB ram can easily be > 8GB ram |
| 12:42.00 | HP-X|Arthas | unsure on wtf the mobo is called |
| 12:42.05 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 12:42.10 | HP-X|Arthas | cpu is athlon 955 BE |
| 12:42.28 | ProzaicMuze | Dont' care what it is, I was just wondering if you were running identical kits with only different ram |
| 12:42.41 | HP-X|Arthas | gpu 285GTX (and hopefully a 2nd card ordered this fall) |
| 12:42.48 | HP-X|Arthas | oh |
| 12:42.49 | HP-X|Arthas | :D |
| 12:42.56 | HP-X|Arthas | hell no |
| 12:43.01 | HP-X|Arthas | His computer is half broken :p |
| 12:43.11 | HP-X|Arthas | But I tried stripping memory out of the box |
| 12:43.21 | HP-X|Arthas | it affects alot :D |
| 12:43.29 | Clord | but then it would also mean it is half repaired |
| 12:43.31 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:43.32 | HP-X|Arthas | I however suspect him running vista might have something with it |
| 12:43.34 | Clord | or actually |
| 12:43.38 | Clord | half not broken |
| 12:44.05 | HP-X|Arthas | I have to call and yell at him at least once every 2nd day due to him getting bsod during league matches :p |
| 12:44.39 | ProzaicMuze | Well |
| 12:44.44 | Clord | you then should probably wait that you get good computer before joining to them again |
| 12:44.45 | Clord | lol |
| 12:44.45 | ProzaicMuze | certain games tab slower |
| 12:44.47 | HP-X|Arthas | yaaay, payment |
| 12:44.55 | ProzaicMuze | And if you have background programs that slows stuff down |
| 12:44.58 | HP-X|Arthas | SC2 is VERY slow |
| 12:45.19 | ProzaicMuze | SC2 is just buggy/slow in general |
| 12:45.23 | ProzaicMuze | I still think it feels unfinished |
| 12:45.43 | ProzaicMuze | And in all honesty, I find the new campaign mission setup gimmicky |
| 12:45.57 | ProzaicMuze | The interludes between missions are actually maps |
| 12:46.17 | ProzaicMuze | While it's cool that you can do that with the mapping program, it's not nearly as cool as it would have been to just make custom cinematics |
| 12:46.46 | HP-X|Arthas | I actually thought that was awesome :p |
| 12:47.03 | HP-X|Arthas | with custom cinematics you mean? |
| 12:47.28 | Xolsom | You know how much time that would take, do you? :P |
| 12:47.43 | ProzaicMuze | Cinematics the quality of Zeratul vs Kerrigan |
| 12:47.51 | HP-X|Arthas | They've had since the beginning of 00 to make pre-rendered cinematics! |
| 12:48.03 | ProzaicMuze | I'm fully aware |
| 12:48.05 | ProzaicMuze | but this is Blizzard |
| 12:48.16 | ProzaicMuze | Oblivion is a more graphically impressive game than SC2 |
| 12:48.20 | ProzaicMuze | Years in advance |
| 12:48.22 | ZarafFaraz | the interludes between maps are scene files...not exactly "maps" |
| 12:48.32 | Huesy | What's the best way to store custom values (presets | integers | reals etc...) for units? I'm using a number of unit models for items and I'm wanting to store values such as "Cost", "Type", "Enabled". |
| 12:48.38 | ProzaicMuze | And the irony is it will continue to be better than SC2 for MANY years down the road due to custom content making the models even better |
| 12:48.42 | HP-X|Arthas | ProzaicMuze: well, in all honesty, blizzard has never been pushing their games out with impressive graphics |
| 12:48.42 | ProzaicMuze | And while I get the games a very different |
| 12:48.53 | ProzaicMuze | The cinematics from Oblivion really shouldnt' be better than SC2's at all |
| 12:49.02 | ZarafFaraz | how many different numbers can you attach to a unit? |
| 12:49.05 | ProzaicMuze | Especially since we know Blizzard makes godly cinematics when they want to |
| 12:49.45 | ProzaicMuze | @Arthas - sure they have |
| 12:49.58 | ProzaicMuze | WoW is the way it is on purpose |
| 12:50.03 | ProzaicMuze | And I'm not complaining about that |
| 12:50.11 | ProzaicMuze | But the graphics on WC3 was pretty good for it's age |
| 12:50.15 | ProzaicMuze | Not top end at all, but good |
| 12:50.20 | ProzaicMuze | However the Cinematics were great |
| 12:50.34 | ProzaicMuze | Now with SC2, the cinematics were again great, but they were very, very sparse |
| 12:50.43 | ProzaicMuze | And the interfact fro missions was annoying because it was an actual map |
| 12:50.49 | ProzaicMuze | So it was very susceptible to lag |
| 12:50.57 | ProzaicMuze | Lag that you wouldn't normally get with a normal campaign interface |
| 12:51.23 | ProzaicMuze | I have a topend computer, but I'd get random lag in different "rooms" of the ship at random times due to the triggers they were running |
| 12:52.05 | Xolsom | Well an alternative mission screen for slower computers would indeed be quite nice |
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| 12:53.26 | ProzaicMuze | No, no I don't mean slower computers |
| 12:53.28 | ProzaicMuze | my computer is fast |
| 12:53.29 | ProzaicMuze | Very fast |
| 12:53.35 | HP-X|Arthas | HOW FAST |
| 12:53.36 | HP-X|Arthas | :D |
| 12:53.38 | ZarafFaraz | does anyone know what the "warp in" time for Protoss units is based upon when summoning via Warp Gate? Like when you can summon them anywhere on the battlefield provided there is energy |
| 12:53.40 | ProzaicMuze | But it would randomly lag because the triggers were controlling stuff |
| 12:53.44 | SycoPrime | How can I increase a unit's veterancy level using triggers? |
| 12:54.04 | Xolsom | Well then a mission screen with static models? :P |
| 12:54.17 | SycoPrime | Zara: Wouldn't that be the same as regular build time? |
| 12:54.22 | Xolsom | Or a prerendered one.. yea.. |
| 12:54.26 | ProzaicMuze | 8GB ram, 4.1Mhz Quad Core (OC'd), Dual SLI 250 GTS |
| 12:54.35 | Xolsom | Mhz? |
| 12:54.40 | ProzaicMuze | Ghz |
| 12:54.42 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 12:54.43 | Xolsom | :D |
| 12:54.44 | ProzaicMuze | you know what I mean |
| 12:54.45 | ZarafFaraz | Syco, it's not the same as the regular build time |
| 12:54.53 | ProzaicMuze | Yes, I overclocked it to a snail's pace ;) |
| 12:54.56 | ZarafFaraz | the warp in time is MUCH faster than the build time |
| 12:55.20 | SycoPrime | Then it'd be in the "Train" ability for the warp gate. |
| 12:56.10 | HP-X|Arthas | what cpu? |
| 12:56.18 | HP-X|Arthas | i7? |
| 12:59.21 | ProzaicMuze | Q9550 |
| 12:59.29 | ProzaicMuze | Not interested in i7's yet |
| 12:59.31 | ProzaicMuze | Still too pricey |
| 12:59.44 | ProzaicMuze | No need to buy those when I can get the speed I need from a cheaper CPU |
| 13:00.18 | HP-X|Arthas | ProzaicMuze: http://www.sweclockers.com/forum/78-gallerikommentarer/938308-wet-dream-v2/ |
| 13:00.22 | HP-X|Arthas | that |
| 13:00.51 | HP-X|Arthas | 2x Intel Xeon X5680 6 intel x25-m in raid0 4x 480GTX |
| 13:00.52 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 13:00.55 | HP-X|Arthas | among other goodies |
| 13:00.59 | mattavich-377 | Woohooo! Finalyl cracked it. I can now set the damage of any ability for any player through triggers |
| 13:01.38 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.sweclockers.com/galleri/5618-wet-dream-v2 < the gallery :p |
| 13:01.47 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 13:01.53 | ProzaicMuze | And what is the point of a rig like that? |
| 13:02.10 | ProzaicMuze | Beyond a certain point th eextra speed is negligible except for rendering of models and videos lol |
| 13:02.32 | mattavich-377 | A quad core running at 3.2ghz is all you need imo |
| 13:02.40 | HP-X|Arthas | meh, he went with the i7 instead of xeon, im disappointed |
| 13:02.41 | ProzaicMuze | Agreed |
| 13:02.41 | mattavich-377 | q6600 suits that |
| 13:02.49 | HP-X|Arthas | ProzaicMuze: As he so nicely put it |
| 13:02.50 | HP-X|Arthas | Why not? |
| 13:03.01 | HP-X|Arthas | If you have the money, spend it |
| 13:03.04 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 13:03.08 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 13:03.32 | ProzaicMuze | I'd rather spend the money on monitors, games and financial investment than a computer that is so fast it's too fast |
| 13:03.58 | ProzaicMuze | And Raid0? |
| 13:03.58 | mattavich-377 | Beer and hos |
| 13:04.08 | mattavich-377 | i'd rather beer and hos |
| 13:04.15 | HP-X|Arthas | ProzaicMuze: |
| 13:04.30 | ProzaicMuze | Why Raid 6 HDs lol |
| 13:04.31 | HP-X|Arthas | he spent around 10-12k usd on it :p |
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| 13:04.40 | HP-X|Arthas | and monitors where included iirc |
| 13:04.40 | glupeczek | Hi there. |
| 13:04.49 | HP-X|Arthas | 6 ssd raid for speed |
| 13:04.50 | mattavich-377 | hi |
| 13:05.06 | ProzaicMuze | I can never remember, but is 0 mirror and 1 stripped or vice versa? |
| 13:05.28 | HP-X|Arthas | 0 is stripe |
| 13:05.33 | ProzaicMuze | mmk |
| 13:05.39 | ProzaicMuze | Then yeah |
| 13:05.47 | ProzaicMuze | 6 SSD in Striped Raid is bad news IMO |
| 13:05.51 | ProzaicMuze | Since SSD go bad REALLY fast |
| 13:05.59 | ProzaicMuze | Simply because they're new and they haven't nailed down the tech for stability |
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| 13:06.11 | ProzaicMuze | Thus one one of those goes bad, the whole RAID is gonna die :( |
| 13:06.15 | HP-X|Arthas | imo, if you spend that much on a comp you can afford it breaking down :p |
| 13:06.18 | Altharaz | hi there! |
| 13:06.20 | ProzaicMuze | rofl |
| 13:06.29 | ProzaicMuze | Just because you spent the money doesn't mean you can afford it. |
| 13:06.30 | SycoPrime | Proziac: So rich guy replaces it when it goes bad, and funds nailing down the tech for the rest of us in the mean time. |
| 13:07.20 | ProzaicMuze | But still, I'll likely never build a computer like that, even if I were wealthy beyond reason lol |
| 13:07.44 | ProzaicMuze | I'm more likely to do a Quad SLI rig Xp |
| 13:07.50 | Altharaz | i would like to make a unit moving by pressing keys, for an example an hellion. I choosed the system of Instant move (i'm trying the thing on a physics engine), but it doesn't make the unit rotate in the good direction, and i don't find anything in the editor to make the unit rotate in the good direction, may somebody help me? |
| 13:08.02 | SycoPrime | Could anyone please tell me how to add experience or veterancy levels through triggers? |
| 13:08.21 | FahqueL | lol unit rotation is my problem atm too! |
| 13:08.32 | Helral | meows |
| 13:08.49 | ZarafFaraz | welcome back Helral |
| 13:09.04 | ZarafFaraz | sorry Syco, I don't know |
| 13:09.07 | Altharaz | FahqueL, really ? lol |
| 13:09.31 | ZarafFaraz | hey Helral, would you be able to attempt the achievement animation thing again the way you did the first time and see if it still crashes? |
| 13:14.07 | Clord | http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/103137203-4.jpg |
| 13:14.30 | Clord | http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/103137173-4.jpg |
| 13:14.50 | Helral | hmmm it's simply create a custom achievement (Data Editor Achievements) and try to run it with a dialog achievement. |
| 13:15.00 | Clord | http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/103137182-4.jpg |
| 13:15.01 | Clord | ^^ |
| 13:15.05 | Clord | Helral... :) |
| 13:15.11 | Clord | I used your work.. nice |
| 13:16.17 | Clord | dialog dimensions |
| 13:16.20 | Clord | 500x225 |
| 13:16.21 | Clord | =) |
| 13:19.38 | Helral | hmmm dialog dimensions? :P let's see |
| 13:19.49 | Helral | ahhh |
| 13:19.51 | Helral | those ones XD |
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| 13:20.35 | Helral | Clord: you know you can change the background of those don't you? XD |
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| 13:22.43 | ZarafFaraz | that's looking pretty good Clord |
| 13:22.53 | mattavich-377 | I LOVE catalog set field value |
| 13:22.57 | HP-X|Arthas | Mmmm, this one is a keeper... Salty! |
| 13:23.00 | wOlfLinG | So, anyone good with dialog lists? |
| 13:23.11 | ZarafFaraz | Helral is |
| 13:23.21 | wOlfLinG | I need to sort a list depending on the values of 2 pulldowns |
| 13:24.39 | Altharaz | is there any way to make a unit rotates or face an angle? |
| 13:24.58 | ZarafFaraz | yes |
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| 13:25.06 | ZarafFaraz | just use the command to rotate it |
| 13:25.49 | Altharaz | i just can't find it in the actions in the triggers xD |
| 13:26.03 | ZarafFaraz | hmm |
| 13:26.19 | Altharaz | it's with the actor? |
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| 13:26.26 | Altharaz | (i have the french version) |
| 13:26.31 | Altharaz | oh |
| 13:26.34 | Altharaz | i found |
| 13:26.39 | Altharaz | make the unit look the angle |
| 13:26.41 | Altharaz | thank you |
| 13:26.58 | ZarafFaraz | yeah |
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| 13:27.05 | th15 | hello peoples. |
| 13:27.11 | ZarafFaraz | Make Unit Face Angle or Make Unit Face Point |
| 13:27.13 | ZarafFaraz | hey th15 |
| 13:28.14 | Altharaz | for the Make Unit face angle |
| 13:28.19 | Altharaz | there is a While field |
| 13:28.25 | th15 | what's going on? |
| 13:28.29 | Altharaz | what does it mean? |
| 13:28.51 | Altharaz | i mean if i put 1 second, will the unit face the angle for one second and then look back again? |
| 13:29.08 | th15 | its a duration field isnt it? |
| 13:29.12 | Altharaz | yes |
| 13:29.20 | th15 | no, its how logn itll take to face that angle |
| 13:29.26 | Altharaz | oh |
| 13:29.27 | Altharaz | okay |
| 13:29.31 | th15 | set to 0 for it to snap instantly |
| 13:29.41 | Altharaz | so it will turn smoother if i set a larger value, isn't it? |
| 13:29.47 | th15 | yeap |
| 13:29.51 | Altharaz | okay thx |
| 13:32.00 | ZarafFaraz | Helral, you still here? |
| 13:33.48 | mattavich-377 | I can't believe how easy editing the catalog is for the data editor and yet many people seem to avoid using it |
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| 13:34.04 | mattavich-377 | I spent ages trying to find out how to increase damage of ana bility |
| 13:34.17 | mattavich-377 | and so many tutorials about creating elvels, veterancy, new abilities |
| 13:34.28 | mattavich-377 | It takes seconds to make the changes in a single line of a trigger |
| 13:34.35 | mattavich-377 | using set catalog value |
| 13:35.24 | ZarafFaraz | what catalog? |
| 13:36.15 | mattavich-377 | It is an action trigger "set catalog field value" catalog being every value in the whole data editor |
| 13:36.39 | ZarafFaraz | so you just change values via triggers? |
| 13:36.42 | mattavich-377 | Yeah |
| 13:36.58 | ZarafFaraz | how is that easier than just changing the actual field? |
| 13:37.37 | Xolsom | Well you cant access the data editor ingame :P |
| 13:38.08 | mattavich-377 | I can change bnovas snipe ability to from 100 to 1000 damage isntantly and then change it to 1 then change her name, her speed, her scale, anything |
| 13:38.17 | mattavich-377 | without having to create workarounds |
| 13:38.30 | mattavich-377 | change weapons |
| 13:38.36 | mattavich-377 | I think |
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| 13:38.59 | mattavich-377 | make her fly lol |
| 13:39.09 | Xolsom | Sure you could then change everything.. |
| 13:39.31 | Xolsom | But.. sometimes it could get quite chaotic you know :P |
| 13:39.40 | mattavich-377 | I'm just voerexcited because i've been reading lots of tutorials saying you need to create this ability add this behaviour disable this add this |
| 13:39.47 | mattavich-377 | when really all i needed was to change the dam damage |
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| 13:45.32 | Wartex | Anyone with a little knowledge of creating custom buildings here? |
| 13:46.01 | Wartex | My building gets built instantly even though i set the cost - time to 20 |
| 13:46.51 | Wartex | sorry, info - time |
| 13:47.04 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 13:47.26 | Clord | build time is in structure itself |
| 13:47.27 | Clord | I think |
| 13:47.37 | Clord | or not |
| 13:47.40 | th15 | oh hey clord |
| 13:47.49 | th15 | i need to write a save/load system for myself |
| 13:47.53 | th15 | would you be interested in it? |
| 13:48.00 | Helral | the Ability - Info - Time ? |
| 13:48.13 | th15 | gonna see if i can get some simple encryption of the bank data |
| 13:48.23 | Wartex | Helral, yeah |
| 13:48.37 | Helral | hmmm |
| 13:49.32 | Helral | Build Type is set correctly? |
| 13:49.35 | depthsofchaos | you people never add the build in progress ability :p |
| 13:49.47 | Wartex | I made a custom build ability, and it has no "building model" so to speak |
| 13:49.48 | Wartex | depthsofchaos, oooh :P |
| 13:50.29 | Wartex | *testing now* |
| 13:50.46 | Helral | I usually just adjust existing data XD |
| 13:51.25 | Wartex | still instant :/ I'll check around a bit |
| 13:51.53 | depthsofchaos | you added it to the building? |
| 13:52.00 | Tordecybombo | hi ; |
| 13:52.08 | depthsofchaos | hi |
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| 13:52.38 | Helral | ahhh the default Build in Progress Ability XD true the unit being build needs that. |
| 13:53.09 | Wartex | depthsofchaos oh, I added it to the engineer |
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| 13:55.37 | Wartex | sweet :D it works. thanks, depthsofchaos |
| 13:58.49 | Xolsom | What does the build in progress ability actually do? |
| 14:00.08 | Wartex | seems to be a special type of "buildable"-ability |
| 14:00.28 | Wartex | you can set how many workers are allowed to work on the same building in it |
| 14:00.58 | Xolsom | Ahh |
| 14:01.21 | Xolsom | Nice to know |
| 14:04.13 | Clord | s=t*2 |
| 14:04.19 | Clord | strategy = tactic * 2 |
| 14:04.20 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:04.22 | Clord | lol |
| 14:05.02 | Clord | beat that Einstein |
| 14:05.04 | Tordecybombo | does the localizer work for maps with dependcies? |
| 14:05.16 | Tordecybombo | im reading it doesnt in the comments |
| 14:05.20 | Clord | it works |
| 14:05.29 | Clord | and all maps has dependencies |
| 14:05.30 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:05.44 | Tordecybombo | i meant non-multi dependicies |
| 14:05.48 | Clord | otherwise you have no units, structures, abilities, etc |
| 14:05.52 | Clord | oh |
| 14:06.01 | Clord | I can localize even when I have added more |
| 14:06.06 | Clord | and I have removed balance dependency |
| 14:06.13 | Clord | so patches not effect to map balance |
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| 14:06.47 | Tordecybombo | did you use blizz's localizer? because we dont get something like tht in the US :( |
| 14:06.54 | Tordecybombo | we have to use the one on sc2mapster |
| 14:07.12 | Xolsom | Where does Blizzard have a localizer? :P |
| 14:07.15 | Clord | I use sc2mapster one |
| 14:07.16 | mattavich-377 | Hey does anyone know the answer to this question |
| 14:07.18 | Tordecybombo | oh ok |
| 14:07.23 | Tordecybombo | well i'll give it a try |
| 14:07.31 | mattavich-377 | you know the way you can select "start point of (picked player)" |
| 14:07.40 | mattavich-377 | Is there anyway tod efine a building that is attached to a player? |
| 14:07.42 | mattavich-377 | or a unit |
| 14:07.53 | Xolsom | You mean as starting point? |
| 14:07.54 | mattavich-377 | in a similar way that "start location" is just a region? |
| 14:07.56 | mattavich-377 | no |
| 14:08.13 | mattavich-377 | just so i can select "building (picked player)" |
| 14:08.16 | Tordecybombo | i got a problem with pathing at intersections when it comes to large clusters of units |
| 14:08.34 | ProzaicMuze | Gah |
| 14:08.38 | Tordecybombo | i cant think of a way to make ground units path better |
| 14:08.40 | ProzaicMuze | eBay have become such a greedy corp |
| 14:08.50 | mattavich-377 | Tord why not make the units with less radius? |
| 14:08.55 | ProzaicMuze | My average monthly fee went from $34 to $134 in one month after new seller fees :( |
| 14:08.56 | mattavich-377 | they wont collide much |
| 14:09.07 | Xolsom | Nah but you can attach the start point to a building.. :P |
| 14:09.14 | ProzaicMuze | Upside is it gives me a huge motivation to make my own site, but still |
| 14:09.16 | Tordecybombo | i'd rather not do that since i dont want their properties to change |
| 14:09.24 | mattavich-377 | Right now i apply a behaviour upgrade to every players building 8 players |
| 14:09.25 | Clord | C:\Users\Clord\Documents\StarCraft II Beta\Maps |
| 14:09.26 | Clord | lol |
| 14:09.32 | Clord | my map editor still uses that place |
| 14:09.33 | mattavich-377 | i have to specify each time what building |
| 14:09.34 | ProzaicMuze | I can't see how eBay can stay in business by raping its sellers :( |
| 14:09.34 | Clord | :) |
| 14:09.42 | Tordecybombo | since it effects gameplay a bit |
| 14:09.55 | Tordecybombo | besides, i'd have to reduce their radius to 0 |
| 14:10.04 | Tordecybombo | since even clusters of thin units like marines have the problem |
| 14:10.06 | Xolsom | Well how do you want it in the end? |
| 14:10.24 | mattavich-377 | talking to me Xolsom? |
| 14:10.27 | Xolsom | Ay |
| 14:10.33 | mattavich-377 | what do you mean end? |
| 14:10.35 | Tordecybombo | i wish he was talking to me :/ |
| 14:10.56 | Xolsom | How do you have to change your buildings every time? |
| 14:10.58 | Xolsom | I mean.. |
| 14:11.03 | Xolsom | You place your buildings.. |
| 14:11.14 | Xolsom | Attach the starting locations to those buildings.. |
| 14:11.17 | mattavich-377 | Well when a player gets to say 150 kills i apply an armour+ behaviour |
| 14:11.25 | mattavich-377 | i have to do this for 8 buildings every 150 kills |
| 14:11.31 | mattavich-377 | the trigger is extremely long |
| 14:11.39 | mattavich-377 | but if i could simply say building of picked player |
| 14:11.40 | Xolsom | Huh did i understand something wrong :o |
| 14:11.56 | Xolsom | Ahh |
| 14:11.57 | Xolsom | Wait |
| 14:12.20 | Xolsom | You want to say always affect the 'start building' from a player? |
| 14:12.45 | mattavich-377 | I already use the "start location" to spawn units |
| 14:13.21 | mattavich-377 | I would like to be able to make more functions similar to "start location" |
| 14:13.33 | th15 | youll just have to save a unit array |
| 14:13.39 | mattavich-377 | so maybe "player region" "player unit" "player building" |
| 14:13.40 | th15 | when yopu spawn that building |
| 14:14.16 | Xolsom | Indeed.. |
| 14:14.20 | th15 | matt, you know how arrays work? |
| 14:14.29 | mattavich-377 | I'm not very good with arrays |
| 14:14.33 | th15 | ok |
| 14:14.35 | mattavich-377 | I think i understand |
| 14:14.40 | th15 | but youve used lotsa variables yes? |
| 14:14.41 | mattavich-377 | array(picked player) |
| 14:14.46 | th15 | yea lkike that |
| 14:14.57 | mattavich-377 | i always get stuck placing the untis int he array and mess it up |
| 14:14.57 | th15 | well its the square brackets, but thats the idea |
| 14:15.00 | mattavich-377 | I will try |
| 14:15.10 | th15 | well note that player number starts from 1 |
| 14:15.20 | th15 | so your array size will be # players + 1 |
| 14:15.56 | Xolsom | Id just put it to 16 or something like that |
| 14:16.02 | mattavich-377 | Yeah i always put 16 |
| 14:16.07 | mattavich-377 | had voerflow prblems in past |
| 14:16.11 | Xolsom | :P |
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| 14:16.19 | mattavich-377 | It will be integer? |
| 14:16.29 | Xolsom | For regions region |
| 14:16.36 | mattavich-377 | what about buildings? |
| 14:16.36 | Xolsom | For Units unit |
| 14:16.41 | Xolsom | For Buildings building.. |
| 14:16.42 | mattavich-377 | oh building = unit |
| 14:16.46 | Xolsom | Oh.. :D |
| 14:16.49 | Xolsom | Yea sure :x |
| 14:17.32 | mattavich-377 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.35 | mattavich-377 | ok i make 8 of these? |
| 14:17.38 | mattavich-377 | one for each player |
| 14:17.41 | mattavich-377 | and that will work? |
| 14:17.56 | Xolsom | Well you have to increse the number in the brackets, but yes :P |
| 14:18.03 | Xolsom | *increase |
| 14:18.28 | th15 | yes |
| 14:18.40 | th15 | if you spawned it in code it'll be more automatic |
| 14:18.43 | mattavich-377 | So really, the start locations are simple built-in arrays anyway |
| 14:18.46 | th15 | but yea just do it that way for now |
| 14:18.49 | th15 | yes mattavich |
| 14:18.55 | th15 | actually, all your regions sit in an array |
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| 14:19.04 | th15 | all your points too |
| 14:19.09 | th15 | well, most things in the game sit in arrays. |
| 14:19.33 | mattavich-377 | My map is getting huge, so much going on |
| 14:19.40 | mattavich-377 | It will be worth it for $5000 though |
| 14:19.51 | mattavich-377 | hehe ;) |
| 14:19.54 | Xolsom | Well good luck :P |
| 14:20.09 | Xolsom | Hope you do have an interesting concept :P |
| 14:20.12 | mattavich-377 | If you would like a test and you're from EU add me |
| 14:20.21 | mattavich-377 | It is addictively fun |
| 14:20.34 | mattavich-377 | It is a map i've wanted to make for the past 10 years |
| 14:20.38 | Xolsom | Are you still here in about an hour? |
| 14:20.43 | Xolsom | Or two |
| 14:20.45 | mattavich-377 | no starcraft map cracked it properly but i believe mine will |
| 14:20.49 | mattavich-377 | yeah |
| 14:20.50 | Xolsom | I'd love to try it |
| 14:21.00 | mattavich-377 | It is called Obelisk Hellfire |
| 14:21.02 | Xolsom | Oke, will contact you then :P |
| 14:21.15 | mattavich-377 | The concept is similar but much better to marine arena. evolves, golemz |
| 14:21.20 | Xolsom | (Maybe) |
| 14:22.10 | mattavich-377 | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/8751-looking-for-map-testers/#p7 |
| 14:22.19 | mattavich-377 | everyone who has tested sof ar found it really good |
| 14:22.24 | Tordecybombo | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:24.04 | Xolsom | we'll see :P |
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| 14:24.23 | Xolsom | Well im leaving for now, cucu |
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| 14:24.49 | mattavich-377 | bb |
| 14:24.56 | Oninji | Hellow |
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| 14:30.35 | Tordecybombo | how does Starcraft 2 fry a video card? |
| 14:30.38 | Tordecybombo | it doesnt make sense |
| 14:30.55 | Tordecybombo | because many other games out there do not have a frame cap either |
| 14:31.03 | Tordecybombo | frame cap by default |
| 14:31.58 | Oninji | Your videocard essentially have a framecap and heatchip, so it shouldn't fry. |
| 14:32.05 | Tordecybombo | yea that's what I thought |
| 14:32.22 | Tordecybombo | all video cards that passed testing would have a failsafe for something like overheating |
| 14:32.37 | Oninji | Unless you're OCing and do not know what you are doing. |
| 14:32.38 | depthsofchaos | seems they dont :o |
| 14:32.56 | depthsofchaos | that bug in the menu occured for most people |
| 14:33.19 | th15 | Tordecybombo: My stuff overheats because I'm in Singapore and my ambient temperature is nothing like what it is in their testing labs. |
| 14:33.57 | Tordecybombo | so any cool new maps on the bottom of the popularity lists? > |
| 14:34.09 | Tordecybombo | i wanna help bump em if they're fun :] |
| 14:34.24 | Oninji | th15 You're heatchip will still detect that heat and shut off your GPU before it overheat. |
| 14:34.36 | Oninji | Meh, didn't played much lately. D= Not ennough time |
| 14:34.59 | th15 | well, yes |
| 14:35.02 | Oninji | Tried a few of the RPG and some of the defenses. |
| 14:35.04 | th15 | but i don't consider that functioning |
| 14:35.12 | th15 | ironically, the card can actually run |
| 14:35.18 | th15 | its just that the fan isn't going to 100% before it overheats |
| 14:35.26 | th15 | i solved the problem by forcing the fan to 100% all the time |
| 14:36.00 | mattavich-377 | Have any of you tried using the send actor message "multiplyscale" action? i always get an error. |
| 14:36.31 | Oninji | Meh, Mine is capped at 85% toi avoid damaging the fan. If it still not ennough, I've capped my failsaif to reduce calculation output... if still not ennough well it shut down but never happened. |
| 14:37.05 | th15 | matt: what's the error? |
| 14:40.17 | HP-X|Arthas | well waddaya know |
| 14:40.35 | HP-X|Arthas | vjeux: swedish pcgamer translated the english counterpart so you're featured in swe pcg too |
| 14:40.47 | Clord | my comment of Postal III |
| 14:40.47 | vjeux | woot :) |
| 14:40.48 | Clord | Clord: hmmmm |
| 14:40.49 | Clord | Clord: meet Dake Nakem |
| 14:40.49 | Clord | Clord: Nake'em all |
| 14:40.49 | Clord | Clord: ^^ |
| 14:40.53 | Clord | :) |
| 14:40.56 | HP-X|Arthas | GIEF POSTAL 3 |
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| 14:42.55 | HP-X|Arthas | btw, did anyone try to upload custom maps through guestpass accs? |
| 14:42.58 | ProzaicMuze | ~seen rrowland |
| 14:43.00 | purl | rrowland <~Ryan@pool-71-103-164-22.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 14h 4m 27s ago, saying: 'So easy'. |
| 14:43.11 | ProzaicMuze | ~seen OneTwo |
| 14:43.11 | purl | onetwo <ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 8h 40m 28s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 14:43.37 | ProzaicMuze | ~seen mwordpersonwhosenameIcannolongerremembersospellitformepurl |
| 14:43.38 | purl | i haven't seen 'mwordpersonwhosenameicannolongerremembersospellitformepurl', ProzaicMuze |
| 14:43.51 | ProzaicMuze | ~smack purl |
| 14:43.52 | purl | ACTION smacks purl upside the head. |
| 14:44.00 | HP-X|Arthas | ~kill purl |
| 14:44.01 | purl | ACTION shoots a inverse anti-quark gun at purl |
| 14:44.16 | ProzaicMuze | ~rape hismelf |
| 14:44.17 | purl | ACTION takes hismelf behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams |
| 14:44.23 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 14:44.28 | HP-X|Arthas | RAEP! |
| 14:44.36 | Clord | Bob casts reflect on himself! |
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| 14:44.44 | Clord | Bob cats rape on himself! |
| 14:44.47 | Clord | Rape reflected |
| 14:44.57 | Clord | Wolf takes 9999 damage |
| 14:45.00 | Clord | Bob wins! |
| 14:45.13 | Clord | Bob receives useless potion |
| 14:45.16 | Clord | and 1 gil |
| 14:45.17 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:45.21 | HP-X|Arthas | 1 gil? |
| 14:45.21 | Clord | and -1 exp of easiness |
| 14:45.25 | HP-X|Arthas | Playing ff13 much? |
| 14:46.15 | Tordecybombo | FOR THE LUCH KING |
| 14:46.25 | Clord | LUNCH KING? |
| 14:46.26 | Clord | where |
| 14:46.27 | Clord | XD |
| 14:46.30 | Clord | ??? |
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| 14:50.50 | Clord | rodringo or whatever was that guy with that livestream channel |
| 14:50.50 | Clord | XD |
| 14:50.54 | Clord | rodingo |
| 14:50.59 | Clord | rodgoth |
| 14:51.00 | Clord | XD |
| 14:51.04 | Tordecybombo | who |
| 14:51.13 | mattavich-377 | Sorry for these multiple questions |
| 14:51.29 | mattavich-377 | I'mdisplaying some text through "text message" tot he directive area |
| 14:51.36 | mattavich-377 | when in the directive area text seems to be permanent |
| 14:51.39 | mattavich-377 | how do i make it fade? |
| 14:51.57 | mattavich-377 | In others areas the text willf ade however i've found the directive area to be best for my purpose |
| 14:52.52 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMdDmbpmIRw |
| 14:52.52 | HP-X|Arthas | :D |
| 14:52.59 | HP-X|Arthas | totally missed that one :p |
| 14:53.06 | Clord | xaragoth! |
| 14:53.07 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:53.10 | HP-X|Arthas | Is that how everyone feels? |
| 14:53.55 | mattavich-377 | I can use the "clear directive messages" action however I don't want to be sticking "wait" actions into a very long trigger that already uses "pick each player" |
| 14:54.24 | th15 | does anyone know if galaxy script supports bitwise functions? |
| 14:54.41 | mattavich-377 | That rap sounds quite good |
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| 14:55.17 | Clord | I should probably try broadcasting thing |
| 14:55.22 | Clord | I'm curious |
| 14:55.28 | Clord | but meh |
| 14:55.31 | Clord | I still gotta buy that mic |
| 14:56.37 | Clord | I could show how much I suck in mario |
| 14:56.38 | Clord | lol |
| 14:57.45 | HP-X|Arthas | mattavich-377: :D |
| 14:58.15 | HP-X|Arthas | Go terran go! |
| 15:00.09 | Wartex | mattavich-377, have you looked into the text editor? |
| 15:00.22 | mattavich-377 | I'm guessing i need to add decay |
| 15:00.49 | mattavich-377 | i basically need to use triggers to create text in directive area and have it decay |
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| 15:01.41 | Wartex | it should be possible to have your own text format |
| 15:02.42 | mattavich-377 | Where do I edit this? |
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| 15:03.37 | Vulfe | herro |
| 15:03.39 | mattavich-377 | welcome back hehe |
| 15:03.48 | mattavich-377 | Wartex how do i edit it? |
| 15:03.48 | Vulfe | ? |
| 15:04.15 | Wartex | hmmm, i'm looking into that myself |
| 15:04.16 | HP-X|Arthas | ~seen Hati |
| 15:04.17 | purl | hati <kvirc@dslb-088-074-180-154.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 7h 31m 43s ago, saying: 'so diamond league i come!'. |
| 15:04.32 | Wartex | there should be styles applicable to text, but I don't know how to edit those styles |
| 15:05.05 | Wartex | and I don't know if those are just for color or if they can change the text position, size, decay etc |
| 15:06.11 | Wartex | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/3/164/3ICE_s_SC2_Styles.jpg |
| 15:06.28 | Wartex | there are the available styles if you see one that is close to the directive one |
| 15:07.01 | mattavich-377 | I jsut want a message to display in the directive area, but not forever |
| 15:07.19 | th15 | fuuuuck its so hard to write a hash function without char primitives |
| 15:07.58 | th15 | im going to have to write my own lookup table for String->Int at this rate. |
| 15:09.01 | th15 | anychance anyone here knows how SC2 handles different character sets? |
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| 15:10.44 | Guest19401 | Hi |
| 15:11.37 | Vulfe | SC2M is going to have TS/Vent |
| 15:11.38 | Vulfe | interesting |
| 15:11.41 | Vulfe | O_O |
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| 15:15.45 | Xolsom | Mattavich may I try your map now? :P |
| 15:17.08 | Clord | :) |
| 15:17.38 | Xolsom | Maybe it does make a 'ping' if I type mattavich-377 :P |
| 15:18.24 | rooj | crap |
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| 15:18.33 | rooj | you can see water off the bottom edge of my map |
| 15:18.34 | glupeczek | Hi there. |
| 15:18.57 | Xolsom | Hi |
| 15:18.59 | glupeczek | Is it possible to hide all ui except minimap ? |
| 15:19.12 | Xolsom | It is.. |
| 15:19.39 | Xolsom | Hmm where's the thread.. |
| 15:21.03 | Xolsom | Maybe this can help you: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/6223-trigger-default-minimap-and-commandcard-outside-the/#p12 |
| 15:21.18 | Xolsom | Though take the #12 away :P |
| 15:22.09 | Helral | XD |
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| 15:22.54 | glupeczek | Xolsom: Thanks! |
| 15:22.54 | Xolsom | Or ask the XD guy :P |
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| 15:34.01 | glupeczek | Another UI question: can I attach a timer to a modal window? |
| 15:34.34 | Helral | Xolsom: don't give away my secret Identity :P |
| 15:34.48 | glupeczek | Or must I create a label that reads of a timer? |
| 15:35.02 | Xolsom | You should ask some hideous guy.. |
| 15:35.11 | Xolsom | Though i shall not speak his name |
| 15:35.22 | Helral | hides |
| 15:36.11 | Xolsom | Since i cannot help you, sorry :P |
| 15:37.00 | ProzaicMuze | Helral |
| 15:37.03 | ProzaicMuze | You owes me heroes |
| 15:37.05 | ProzaicMuze | Lazy |
| 15:37.07 | ProzaicMuze | lazy |
| 15:37.08 | ProzaicMuze | cat |
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| 15:37.35 | ProzaicMuze | ~heysparky |
| 15:37.44 | ProzaicMuze | ~seen heysparky |
| 15:37.45 | purl | heysparky <~heysparky@216.40.136.42> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 34d 2h 26m 24s ago, saying: 'later folks'. |
| 15:37.49 | ProzaicMuze | Did she quit or something? |
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| 15:38.48 | Helral | she found a job and is busy alot now :P |
| 15:39.09 | Helral | ProzaicMuze: hmmmm how many do you still need? |
| 15:39.37 | Helral | ProzaicMuze: I thought I messaged you 3 or 4 total now.... (although 1 might be lost in the IRC chat :P) |
| 15:42.44 | ProzaicMuze | Psh. . . jobs |
| 15:42.50 | ProzaicMuze | 34days of no contact = crappy job |
| 15:42.58 | ProzaicMuze | And we're at 3.5, remember? ;) |
| 15:43.13 | Helral | hmmm thought I made that .5 into a whole one XD |
| 15:43.18 | ProzaicMuze | You probably did |
| 15:43.22 | ProzaicMuze | and I forgot to write it down |
| 15:43.26 | Helral | that .5 was SC2mapsterkitten wasn't it? |
| 15:43.30 | ProzaicMuze | lol yeah |
| 15:43.38 | ProzaicMuze | But don't worry about it |
| 15:43.42 | Helral | :P |
| 15:43.59 | ProzaicMuze | When i finish posting these tutorials I'm gonna make a private channel for the project |
| 15:44.07 | ProzaicMuze | Then we can talk details and I can beat the last hero out of yeh ;) |
| 15:44.21 | HP-X|Arthas | any homm-players in here? |
| 15:44.57 | Trager|546|US | As Insane Clown Posse might say: Fucking dialog boxes, how do they work? |
| 15:45.10 | Helral | meow? |
| 15:46.03 | Helral | thought I made it stuff like: laser eyes, the kitten has drained a laserpen and thus gained this power XD |
| 15:46.33 | HP-X|Arthas | Charging the lazor? |
| 15:47.25 | Helral | drain another laserpen XD |
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| 15:48.52 | ProzaicMuze | Helral believes that cats shine laserpens into their eyers and suddenly gain lazorvizhun instead of going blind |
| 15:49.19 | Helral | no they drain the laserpen by hunting down the little red dot on the wall XD |
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| 15:51.30 | rooj | for setting the camera position at map initialization, should i be using pan camera or make camera look at? |
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| 15:51.41 | Vulfe | hi |
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| 15:53.07 | Vulfe | you all |
| 15:53.09 | Vulfe | are so antisocial |
| 15:53.14 | Helral | meows |
| 15:53.19 | Clord | meow meow |
| 15:53.30 | Clord | purrrrrrrrr |
| 15:53.32 | Clord | purrrrrrrr |
| 15:53.35 | Xolsom | Muuh |
| 15:53.38 | Clord | puuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrr |
| 15:53.40 | Clord | XD |
| 15:53.42 | Helral | stalks the cow |
| 15:53.44 | Xolsom | Umm pan it :P |
| 15:54.02 | Clord | neko-puuuurrrrrrr |
| 15:54.03 | Clord | XD |
| 15:54.10 | Xolsom | SInce it actually doesnt matter :P |
| 15:54.26 | Clord | you humanist! |
| 15:54.27 | Clord | XD |
| 15:54.27 | rooj | ok i got it |
| 15:54.30 | rooj | panning worked |
| 15:54.31 | Clord | joke from word "racist" XD |
| 15:54.42 | rooj | "make camera look at" made the camera slightly crooked O_O; |
| 15:55.05 | Helral | Xolsom: you want to pan the cow? |
| 15:55.16 | rooj | moos |
| 15:55.41 | Clord | I would see few problems with that |
| 15:55.51 | Clord | and could |
| 15:56.09 | Clord | first problem... well healthy big cow is over 400KG weight |
| 15:56.13 | Clord | and massive in size |
| 15:56.20 | Xolsom | Ye panned cows are lovely :o |
| 15:56.52 | Vulfe | ok |
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| 15:57.08 | Xolsom | We do need a biiiiiig pan I suppose :P |
| 15:57.19 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 15:57.22 | Clord | lol |
| 15:57.22 | Vulfe | biiing |
| 15:57.24 | Clord | peter pan |
| 15:57.26 | Clord | came to mind |
| 15:57.27 | Clord | XD |
| 15:57.33 | Xolsom | :o |
| 15:57.39 | Helral | Clord wants to Pan Peter.... |
| 15:57.57 | Vulfe | castanar tile doesn't use light very well |
| 15:57.58 | Vulfe | so annoying |
| 15:58.01 | Vulfe | DL |
| 15:58.02 | Vulfe | D:* |
| 15:58.12 | Xolsom | Bing reminds me of Microsoft.. which reminds me of Windows.. which again reminds me of.. Bluescreens.. which destroyed some of my work today.. :X |
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| 15:59.30 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/8926-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty/ |
| 15:59.31 | ProzaicMuze | more to ome |
| 15:59.33 | ProzaicMuze | come* |
| 16:01.00 | Xolsom | I like your colors :P |
| 16:01.03 | ProzaicMuze | :) |
| 16:01.14 | ProzaicMuze | I do too |
| 16:01.27 | Clord | Xolsom I got idea of that |
| 16:01.32 | Clord | let's take word Carrot! ^^ |
| 16:01.33 | ProzaicMuze | HD vid and Test Map are now attached |
| 16:01.35 | Clord | Carrot |
| 16:01.36 | Clord | rabbit |
| 16:01.41 | Clord | meat |
| 16:01.47 | Clord | fishsticks |
| 16:01.48 | Xolsom | Dog |
| 16:01.50 | Xolsom | Bah :P |
| 16:01.54 | Clord | fish |
| 16:02.00 | Clord | swimming |
| 16:02.06 | Clord | water |
| 16:02.12 | Clord | cold |
| 16:02.15 | Clord | etc etc |
| 16:02.16 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:02.27 | Xolsom | winter.. |
| 16:02.47 | Clord | summer |
| 16:02.47 | Xolsom | Oh well :P |
| 16:02.48 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:02.55 | Xolsom | Now |
| 16:03.04 | Clord | then |
| 16:03.05 | Clord | XD |
| 16:03.09 | Xolsom | After |
| 16:03.11 | Clord | before |
| 16:03.19 | Xolsom | Yesterday |
| 16:03.24 | Clord | lol |
| 16:03.30 | Xolsom | :P |
| 16:03.31 | Clord | tomorrow |
| 16:03.45 | Xolsom | Today |
| 16:03.55 | Clord | this year? XD |
| 16:04.01 | Xolsom | This month |
| 16:04.11 | Clord | next month |
| 16:04.12 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/8927-data-panic-and-berserk-unit-states-beginner-difficulty/ |
| 16:04.13 | Clord | hmmmmm |
| 16:04.18 | ProzaicMuze | HD Vid and Test Map attached |
| 16:04.43 | Clord | >_> 140IQ and I play word connection game |
| 16:04.46 | Clord | lol |
| 16:04.53 | Xolsom | Thats life |
| 16:04.54 | Xolsom | :P |
| 16:05.00 | Clord | :) |
| 16:05.15 | Xolsom | We are always connecting things i suppose :P |
| 16:05.16 | Clord | it is situational irony |
| 16:05.17 | Clord | lol |
| 16:05.28 | Clord | until they get disconnected and net goes down |
| 16:05.29 | Clord | ol |
| 16:05.33 | Clord | lol |
| 16:05.35 | Xolsom | :> |
| 16:05.50 | Clord | honestly imagine life |
| 16:05.57 | Clord | where there is no internet |
| 16:06.14 | Clord | for few minutes! |
| 16:06.15 | Clord | XD |
| 16:06.20 | Xolsom | Oyoy.. |
| 16:06.23 | Xolsom | poor banks :P |
| 16:06.49 | Xolsom | Well pooor world :o |
| 16:06.54 | depthsofchaos | prozaic, why the aa in front of every file you upload ?:p |
| 16:06.59 | Clord | honestly.. you sit front of computer and your internet provicer poops |
| 16:07.00 | Clord | XD |
| 16:07.14 | Clord | that is like... you can't really tell it |
| 16:07.15 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:07.40 | Xolsom | True.. |
| 16:07.44 | Nash|327 | kittuns |
| 16:08.04 | Xolsom | Kitty? |
| 16:08.06 | Xolsom | Hero? |
| 16:08.08 | Xolsom | Where? |
| 16:08.08 | Clord | lol |
| 16:08.09 | Xolsom | What? |
| 16:08.21 | Clord | almost everything I use my computer for |
| 16:08.24 | th15 | anyone know if the byte type in sc2 is signed? |
| 16:08.24 | Clord | I need internet connection |
| 16:08.27 | th15 | and if it wraps around? |
| 16:08.33 | Clord | I can't even play steam games without it |
| 16:08.45 | Clord | what actually require steam to work |
| 16:09.06 | Lilianna | :o Proziac came back! |
| 16:09.10 | Xolsom | Hey be happy that you can play starcraft in offline mode :P |
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| 16:09.31 | Clord | nah... I actually don't as I want unlock achievements when I actually bother to replay mission |
| 16:09.32 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:09.37 | FahqueL | cya folks |
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| 16:09.50 | Xolsom | Just save the mission before the achievement and load it with an active connection :D |
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| 16:10.25 | Xolsom | Did that actually, since I didn't want to do some mission more than once.. |
| 16:10.33 | Xolsom | *s |
| 16:10.35 | ProzaicMuze | @Depths - organization. aa Signifies Tutorials/Concept Maps |
| 16:10.41 | ProzaicMuze | zz Signifies Project maps |
| 16:10.54 | Xolsom | Whats a bb? :P |
| 16:10.56 | ProzaicMuze | No aa/zz Signifies Personal maps |
| 16:11.03 | Xolsom | Ah |
| 16:11.03 | ProzaicMuze | If I need a bb I just make a new folder ;) |
| 16:11.08 | Xolsom | :P |
| 16:12.27 | Xolsom | Umm is there a way to make the camera automatically follow a units view angle? |
| 16:12.58 | Xolsom | Or more like have the camera angle change acoordingly :P |
| 16:14.15 | Xolsom | Or maybe i could just turn the map instead of the camera....... |
| 16:17.45 | Vulfe | Whoa |
| 16:17.47 | Vulfe | Prozaic is here |
| 16:17.51 | Vulfe | I wonder if he still does things |
| 16:17.54 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 16:17.56 | ProzaicMuze | I do |
| 16:17.57 | ProzaicMuze | like |
| 16:18.01 | ProzaicMuze | own your faiz |
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| 16:25.03 | Xackery | Morning. |
| 16:25.08 | Vulfe | afternoon |
| 16:25.10 | Vulfe | but okay |
| 16:25.59 | Xackery | 9:25am |
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| 16:26.38 | Xolsom | good night you mean :o |
| 16:26.47 | Uplo | is it possible to add (not set) tint to a structure with a trigger? |
| 16:26.50 | Klonkq | why is my 'suggest' box suddenly greyed out? |
| 16:27.08 | Wartex | is it possible to turn on/off a fog emitter through triggers? |
| 16:28.01 | Wartex | Klonkq, it happens to me too sometimes. If you duplicate the unit it will work though |
| 16:28.14 | Klonkq | i cant do it to anything |
| 16:28.18 | Klonkq | at the moment |
| 16:28.25 | Wartex | weird. :/ |
| 16:28.27 | Klonkq | restarting editor |
| 16:29.24 | Klonkq | worked |
| 16:31.41 | Helral | evening Xackery. |
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| 16:45.23 | Vulfe | I wonder why OneTwo's WoW camera uses that set attack region instead of just using a function of the point clicked with a radius |
| 16:45.26 | Vulfe | silly 12 |
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| 16:52.06 | Vail|Gone | hello all |
| 16:54.22 | depthsofchaos | when this stupid namechange will happen will i loose everibody on my friend list ?:o i bet |
| 16:54.33 | depthsofchaos | hi |
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| 16:55.23 | SassySally | Hey ! :D new to map-making here. |
| 16:59.52 | Xolsom | Hello hello |
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| 17:05.02 | Pierrot | hi all. |
| 17:05.20 | Pierrot | Hmm how do i set a motion animation to the water ?? |
| 17:05.29 | HP-X|Arthas | 49 people in queue waiting to talk with me |
| 17:05.30 | HP-X|Arthas | ! |
| 17:05.33 | HP-X|Arthas | I LOVE THIS |
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| 17:06.03 | Trager|546|US | how do I make my map always daytime? |
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| 17:21.06 | jorgenpt | DarkRevenant: I like your reviews |
| 17:21.14 | jorgenpt | DarkRevenant: I can't wait till I can have you review my map :-D |
| 17:21.33 | rrowland | Yeah save some energy for after the contest |
| 17:21.39 | rrowland | You'll be reviewing the shit outta mine |
| 17:21.54 | jorgenpt | Mhm |
| 17:21.58 | MavercK | has anyone worked out a way to make an exhausted gas geyser still give gas |
| 17:22.02 | MavercK | with only the data editor |
| 17:22.12 | jorgenpt | You mean still give, but less? |
| 17:22.16 | MavercK | yea |
| 17:22.46 | MavercK | i've played with most of the values in the behavior/ability and can't seem to get it to work |
| 17:22.49 | rrowland | Not sure how they work, but maybe you could give it a morph ability |
| 17:23.17 | MavercK | well you can replace the geyser with another unit once it depletes |
| 17:23.23 | MavercK | but how would that do anything? |
| 17:23.24 | rrowland | That's a morph |
| 17:23.37 | rrowland | It's instant, there's no unit change |
| 17:23.50 | rrowland | You could switch it out with a geyser that returns less |
| 17:23.56 | rrowland | and has no limit |
| 17:24.48 | jorgenpt | I would look into Behavior.HarvestableVespeneGeyserGas.Deplete in the Refinery Actor, yea. |
| 17:25.19 | jorgenpt | Or, well, just HarvestableVespeneGeyserGas |
| 17:25.34 | MavercK | yea thats what im looking at atm. i'll check the actor... |
| 17:27.10 | jorgenpt | MavercK: Actually, yeah. I'd make a Reduced Harvestable Vespene Geyser Gas Behavior, and then apply it when the other one gets depleted? |
| 17:27.25 | jorgenpt | MavercK: The other behavior should have less Harvest Amount obviously |
| 17:27.47 | jorgenpt | ProzaicMuze: Do you know if there's any way to have a shared building that people can buy Upgrades from? |
| 17:27.58 | MavercK | yea ty i might have an idea now |
| 17:27.59 | jorgenpt | ProzaicMuze: Like an Engineering Bay that everyone can use, but that upgrades the invoking player. |
| 17:28.33 | jorgenpt | MavercK: You might have to remove the old Harvetsable Vespene Geyser Gas behavior. |
| 17:28.51 | MavercK | theres a flag "remove when empty" |
| 17:29.04 | MavercK | im thinking of applying another gas behavior with a validator or something |
| 17:29.15 | MavercK | make it only active when the original is off |
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| 17:29.44 | nitroball | sup? |
| 17:30.22 | jorgenpt | There's also a Gas (Raw Vespene Geyser) |
| 17:30.32 | jorgenpt | Not sure how they interact, since they both have Capacity / Amount |
| 17:30.51 | jorgenpt | Anyway, shower. |
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| 17:38.11 | rooj | yay |
| 17:38.11 | rooj | i got work done on my map today |
| 17:38.11 | Vail | MavercK: have you tried the Stats Empty Harvest Amount field? |
| 17:38.11 | MavercK | yea |
| 17:38.11 | Vail | doesnt work? |
| 17:38.24 | MavercK | well the extractor goes red and the workers sit there trying to get into it to harvest more gas but they never do |
| 17:38.50 | MavercK | i just half fixed it... |
| 17:38.54 | MavercK | but |
| 17:39.01 | MavercK | the amount of gas left never counts down now lol |
| 17:39.38 | MavercK | looks like i'll have to do the morph thing |
| 17:40.56 | depthsofchaos | you could just enable a resource behaviour when the field is depleted |
| 17:42.03 | MavercK | how so |
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| 17:45.28 | depthsofchaos | give the field a buff that is removed with a validator that counts the field |
| 17:45.39 | depthsofchaos | when removed you apply the different resource |
| 17:46.31 | MavercK | well. all that you can do with the resource behavior is add a requirement |
| 17:46.43 | MavercK | and can't really count resources with that |
| 17:46.49 | MavercK | i'd need a way to disable the initial behavior |
| 17:47.03 | depthsofchaos | remove it.. as i said use a buff to validate |
| 17:47.21 | MavercK | hmmm |
| 17:47.28 | MavercK | so a remove behavior buff? |
| 17:47.48 | depthsofchaos | yep with final effect |
| 17:47.52 | depthsofchaos | that removes it |
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| 17:48.12 | MavercK | i get what you mean |
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| 17:51.04 | rooj | cheapest way to edit a DDS file: |
| 17:51.41 | rooj | actually i'll just be super lazy |
| 17:51.46 | rooj | and not edit it :D |
| 17:52.48 | rooj | doh |
| 17:52.51 | rooj | they are different sizes |
| 17:52.55 | rooj | kicks |
| 17:55.14 | Pierrot | Clord : Chase the mineral is taking shape |
| 17:56.26 | jorgenpt | rooj: nvcompress + Photoshop. :-p |
| 17:58.22 | Vulfe | You should all get on ventrilo |
| 17:58.27 | Vulfe | and be antisocial with us |
| 17:58.30 | Vulfe | <3 |
| 17:58.57 | rooj | heh jorgan |
| 17:59.08 | rooj | i just wanna change the color of one little file ;P |
| 17:59.15 | rooj | also i suck @ those programs |
| 17:59.55 | Trager|546|US | ~seen PapaRoach |
| 17:59.57 | purl | paparoach <44668787@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.102.135.135> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 12h 31m 17s ago, saying: 'yeah'. |
| 18:00.08 | Wartex | ahaha, what a hack blizzard made :P I was looking into how to make a neutral civvie join your team when you got close, and I looked at how they did the pickups in the game. Turns out they are just autocasting an ability with 1 range which executes the commands. |
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| 18:01.28 | Lilianna | o.o You would call that a hack? It makes sense |
| 18:01.58 | Wartex | well I'd expect the pickups to be a unit class of their own or something |
| 18:02.34 | Clord | Pierrot: lol |
| 18:02.43 | Lilianna | that would be alot of extra code thats unecessary, when it can be done with the means they used |
| 18:03.03 | Wartex | yeah... isn't that the definition of a hack? |
| 18:03.07 | Lilianna | it gets the same goal accomplished eithier way |
| 18:03.12 | Lilianna | No, its being efficient |
| 18:03.12 | Pierrot | Clord : just made a sprout field the ideal spot for a chased mineral |
| 18:03.37 | Pierrot | now working on the scv abilities |
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| 18:04.23 | Pierrot | right now they have a build shelter which is a personnal mineral return location |
| 18:04.32 | Pierrot | here they can upgrade their speed |
| 18:04.39 | Pierrot | gather rate |
| 18:04.43 | Pierrot | and hp |
| 18:05.09 | Pierrot | they get mineral by chasing the minerals ... and vespene by killing other scv |
| 18:05.36 | Pierrot | vespene is used to get item like traps healing pot etc |
| 18:06.09 | Pierrot | they have a sentry building with a timed life |
| 18:06.33 | Pierrot | i somehow managed to remove the health bar and energy bar of the minerals |
| 18:06.40 | Pierrot | so when you press alt |
| 18:06.44 | Pierrot | it is not showing |
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| 18:09.32 | sNap | It is possible to morph a building in one of e.g. 35 different buildings with a parametrized morphing ability (so I can call it from a trigger)? Or do I need 35 abilities, each one for every building I want to morph to? |
| 18:09.41 | Wartex | Doess adding -1 behaviour to a unit count as removing that behaviour? |
| 18:10.46 | Demo | You guys know what my favorite thing about map making is? |
| 18:10.50 | Demo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.55 | Demo | Understanding everything about that. |
| 18:11.41 | Xackery | XD |
| 18:12.00 | Demo | It's a lot longer than that too lol |
| 18:12.22 | rooj | hummmm... a 1x1 leaderboard is huge o_O; |
| 18:12.49 | Wartex | Demo, I'm proud of this one I made: Variable - Set SpawnAmount = ((Abs((Cos(((Real(CurrentHour)) * 7.5))))) * (7.0 - ((Abs((Cos(((Real(HoursElapsed)) * 2.55))))) * 2.0))) |
| 18:13.04 | Demo | :) |
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| 18:16.41 | Demo | Only problem with writing triggers like this is I'm a gui guy, so it takes forever. |
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| 18:19.37 | WadeArcade | awww yea |
| 18:19.54 | WadeArcade | anyone here? |
| 18:20.50 | Lilianna | Nope |
| 18:21.33 | Clord | pierrot |
| 18:21.36 | Clord | you managed to remove it |
| 18:21.37 | Clord | via actor |
| 18:21.42 | Clord | actor settings order what bars are used |
| 18:21.43 | Clord | ^^ |
| 18:21.52 | Pierrot | yu that is what i thought |
| 18:22.01 | Clord | :) |
| 18:22.03 | Clord | very useful |
| 18:22.06 | Clord | used it in my map too |
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| 18:22.18 | Pierrot | well it sounds cool i mean the abilities |
| 18:22.24 | Pierrot | i put a direct stun |
| 18:22.30 | Leaderboard | Hi eveyrone, I was wondering, when I launch SC2 it says : "Attention OUT OF RANGE, please change signal timing" everyone have an idea ? |
| 18:22.37 | Pierrot | and a progamer stunt |
| 18:22.41 | Pierrot | stun |
| 18:22.41 | Leaderboard | (it's my new PC) |
| 18:22.52 | Xackery | "When you open a bank, you can't use a variable for the player number" |
| 18:22.55 | Xackery | Wryyyy |
| 18:22.59 | Pierrot | a aoe which stun if the minerals is in the center of the aoe |
| 18:23.32 | Pierrot | else it increase 'or maybe decrease" the minerals speed |
| 18:23.39 | Pierrot | i know |
| 18:23.42 | Xackery | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbArvIqZzkI |
| 18:23.52 | Pierrot | it decrease the enemy scv speed |
| 18:24.06 | Pierrot | and increase the minerals speed |
| 18:24.22 | Pierrot | the stun only applies to the minerals |
| 18:24.27 | Pierrot | sounds cool |
| 18:26.25 | Leaderboard | No one knows ? :( |
| 18:26.51 | WadeArcade | do you not have enough RAMs? |
| 18:27.53 | WadeArcade | well wtf do you? |
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| 18:29.06 | Impaler | Woot, I got my Obverse Incubation upgrade working |
| 18:29.18 | WadeArcade | good for u |
| 18:29.22 | HeyRevolver | grats |
| 18:29.29 | HeyRevolver | WRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 18:29.30 | Impaler | 4 lings for 75 mins |
| 18:30.19 | Impaler | I think that would go a long way to balancing the zerg, the larvae efficiency will be huge in the mid game |
| 18:30.21 | WadeArcade | ok i need some damn help, how do i pull up a units current experience as an integer? |
| 18:30.28 | HeyRevolver | Yo like this |
| 18:30.47 | HeyRevolver | Experiecne gained by unit = |
| 18:30.51 | Impaler | Any thoughts on how balanced it is? |
| 18:31.08 | HeyRevolver | 75 minutes of anything is 35 minutes too long if it is a multiplayer game |
| 18:31.22 | Impaler | 75 minerals |
| 18:31.28 | HeyRevolver | oh |
| 18:31.31 | HeyRevolver | mins |
| 18:31.34 | HeyRevolver | right |
| 18:31.39 | HeyRevolver | yeah sounds balanced to me |
| 18:31.55 | WadeArcade | how about getting the total experience until next level as an integer? |
| 18:32.06 | Impaler | I also buffed Adrenal glands back to 50% incressed attack speed |
| 18:32.11 | HeyRevolver | cool |
| 18:32.24 | Impaler | Cracklings will attack slightly faster then stimmed marines |
| 18:32.35 | HeyRevolver | Wade, I'm not sure, but you probably have to look at how much exp each level takes in your veterancy levels + |
| 18:32.57 | HeyRevolver | and then put each numbe rin a different If statement - experience gained |
| 18:32.58 | WadeArcade | do it manually like that? |
| 18:33.02 | HeyRevolver | yeah |
| 18:33.07 | Impaler | I mean really Zerglings just get wasted late game |
| 18:33.09 | WadeArcade | thats lame |
| 18:33.16 | HeyRevolver | lol welcome to C++ |
| 18:33.22 | Pierrot | Clord : What do you think of this ability : Burrow : Mineral burrow itself in the ground becoming hidden to the SCV. However the fauna react aggressively to the vibrations emitted by Mineral. |
| 18:33.24 | Impaler | these two upgrades together would only just make them viable |
| 18:33.29 | WadeArcade | if i have multiple units with different sets of experience then thats gonna take forever |
| 18:33.38 | HeyRevolver | yep |
| 18:33.44 | Pierrot | Clord : Basically beetle will spawn and attack Mineral after awhile |
| 18:33.48 | HeyRevolver | there might be an easier way man |
| 18:33.50 | WadeArcade | i just wanna make a damn custom experience bar why is blizzard being so gay about it |
| 18:33.56 | HeyRevolver | oh |
| 18:34.03 | Impaler | sounds dumb, minerals are inorganic |
| 18:34.12 | HeyRevolver | you would probably have to do a separate bar for each level |
| 18:34.12 | Wartex | so are autocast abilities cast all the time or when a criteria is fulfilled, like when a unit gets within reach? |
| 18:34.19 | Pierrot | Sillicium can make life form |
| 18:34.36 | Pierrot | we do not know everything for sure :) |
| 18:34.45 | HeyRevolver | Wartex it depend son how it is triggered, the duration, range, ect |
| 18:35.28 | Wartex | it should be 1 charge to the ability, and its autocast range is 1 |
| 18:35.49 | HeyRevolver | then it will autocast on anything that comes within 1 raneg |
| 18:35.52 | Wartex | but if i try to catch the ability cast with a trigger its triggered as soon as the map loads |
| 18:36.25 | HeyRevolver | wait I am wrong |
| 18:36.29 | WadeArcade | ok ok, so thats bullshit. is there any way to have a units stats displayed below without having that unit selected? |
| 18:36.59 | HeyRevolver | not sure |
| 18:37.07 | Greedape | uhm, an invisible dialog label |
| 18:37.19 | Greedape | which displays the units behaviour count |
| 18:37.23 | Greedape | or smth. like that |
| 18:37.29 | Pierrot | Clord : Mineral can change its state and become a gazeous life form. Reduce harvesting rate by 75% uses 2 energy per second. |
| 18:37.43 | WadeArcade | behaviour count? |
| 18:37.51 | Greedape | you use stats right? |
| 18:38.02 | Greedape | like agi or str or like health and mana? |
| 18:38.08 | WadeArcade | yea |
| 18:38.26 | Greedape | then you use that built in stat system right? |
| 18:39.26 | Greedape | like veterancy and that veterancy increases agi and str. with each level |
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| 18:40.54 | Greedape | so you need to have agi and strenght displayed, which can be done by doing a convert integer -> string and then display that string in a dialog label.. or maybe a button, that might look interesting |
| 18:41.18 | WadeArcade | so how do i pull up those values as integeres |
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| 18:41.48 | Greedape | unit - count behaviour --> agi int strnght |
| 18:42.07 | Greedape | whatever you need |
| 18:42.12 | WadeArcade | could i pull up the total experience required that way? |
| 18:42.24 | Greedape | not |
| 18:42.48 | WadeArcade | no? |
| 18:42.59 | Greedape | i think because XP required is not a built in thingy like in wc3, but something set in the veterancy behaviour |
| 18:43.16 | WadeArcade | and theres no way to pull that veterency data? |
| 18:44.16 | Greedape | you could make the veterancy level each 100 XP and then you simply get the XP the unit has and then count to the next 100, then this is the XP needed for the next level |
| 18:44.31 | Greedape | that would be simple |
| 18:44.56 | WadeArcade | true, but then it would be too easy to level up to the later levels, can i diminish the amount of xp i recieve then to balance it out? |
| 18:45.07 | Greedape | but id rather do what.. Revolver said and make each level independantly.. which is 1000 times more work |
| 18:45.32 | Greedape | diminishing XP gain |
| 18:45.35 | Greedape | humm |
| 18:45.42 | Greedape | not that i ever tried.. no need |
| 18:46.10 | Greedape | if you add XP via trigger rather than using the built in system, then you can use diminishing returns |
| 18:46.41 | jorgenpt | Can't you set the number of kills required for veterancy? |
| 18:47.14 | Greedape | nahh |
| 18:47.26 | Greedape | its dependant on XP, but you could make every kill gain you 1 kill |
| 18:47.31 | Greedape | *1 XP |
| 18:47.33 | Greedape | lawl |
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| 18:48.58 | WadeArcade | this makes me sad |
| 18:49.04 | Greedape | it is indeed |
| 18:49.22 | WadeArcade | fuck it, you need 100xp * current level to gain next level |
| 18:49.25 | WadeArcade | that makes it easy |
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| 18:51.10 | Vail | ok i found out how to get the harversters to harvest from a depleted refinery |
| 18:51.20 | HeyRevolver | anyone remember the arcade game after burner? |
| 18:52.23 | HeyRevolver | buncha youngins' |
| 18:52.49 | HeyRevolver | =P |
| 18:54.19 | aTTari | stupid avatars not working on b.net |
| 18:54.40 | aTTari | Will we see new featured maps tonight then?! |
| 18:57.11 | Trager|546|US | featured maps can suck it |
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| 19:01.37 | HeyRevolver | Anyone know where the Assets folder is or how I get to it in the import manager? |
| 19:01.57 | HeyRevolver | I'm a cybernetic organism. Living tissue over metal indoskeleton |
| 19:02.52 | Xackery | Probably MPQ editor if you're stealing built in blizz stuff. |
| 19:03.05 | HeyRevolver | i just want to change the resource icons |
| 19:03.07 | HeyRevolver | not steal anything |
| 19:03.13 | HeyRevolver | I dont know what you do with blizzard stuff |
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| 19:08.47 | Vail | appearently we do not have access to every thing in the game via the data editor or we do not know how to find everything |
| 19:11.22 | Vulfe | we don't have access to everything |
| 19:11.23 | Vulfe | of course not |
| 19:11.27 | Vulfe | don't be silly |
| 19:11.28 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 19:11.53 | depthsofchaos | you can change resource icons by simply importing textures with the same name |
| 19:12.09 | depthsofchaos | no need to delete it automatically gets prioritized |
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| 19:12.46 | depthsofchaos | not sure about resource names :o |
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| 19:13.28 | Vail | i want to edit the Reource Queue for depeleted Vespene ... |
| 19:13.52 | Vail | ashame this option is nowhere to be found |
| 19:14.12 | depthsofchaos | resource queue?:O |
| 19:14.14 | AsaPhelps | ~seen eternalwraith |
| 19:14.17 | purl | eternalwraith <c636cab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.54.202.182> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 23h 40m 7s ago, saying: 'Reelix: Yeah, to be honest I dont find 2v2, 3v3 or 4v4 much fun. There is no strategy but cheese and lame spamming. Anyone can do it.'. |
| 19:14.59 | Vail | yes its what sets the amount of haversters to 1 at a time |
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| 19:15.28 | Vail | or zero at a time for depleted vespene |
| 19:17.05 | depthsofchaos | well you could make your own harvest ability i guess :o |
| 19:17.10 | Vail | the only refernce to it is in the Harvest ability Flags Field |
| 19:17.38 | mattavich-377 | cant you use set catalog field value? |
| 19:19.26 | Vail | i am working on a mod and need to be able to do this via data editor |
| 19:20.00 | mattavich-377 | cant you simply change the option in data editor then? |
| 19:20.15 | Vail | the option is not IN the data editor |
| 19:20.43 | Vail | i can ignore the queue but not edit it |
| 19:20.50 | AsaPhelps | so is it possible to have more than 3 command cards |
| 19:20.53 | mattavich-377 | you said the is a reference to it in the harvest ability flags field |
| 19:21.01 | AsaPhelps | i'd like my hero to have 9000 skills if possible |
| 19:21.08 | AsaPhelps | actually I just want 4 cards |
| 19:21.09 | mattavich-377 | lol |
| 19:21.14 | Vail | yes there is the refrence it to ignore it. |
| 19:21.24 | Vail | is to maybe |
| 19:23.46 | mattavich-377 | Is it possible to make units created in a region, move to the rally point of a building? |
| 19:26.16 | AsaPhelps | ~seen ProzaicMuse |
| 19:26.17 | purl | prozaicmuse <5742be7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.66.190.123> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 47d 8h 22m 5s ago, saying: 'Hi guys'. |
| 19:27.42 | Wartex | mattavich-377, try this action: Unit - Order all units in (Any units in (Playable map area) owned by player Any Player matching Excluded: Missile, Dead, Hidden, with at most Any Amount) to ( Move targeting (Rally point target point for point 1 with target 1 for (Triggering unit))) (Replace Existing Orders) |
| 19:28.01 | Wartex | you'll have to replace the region and rallypoint with what you are working with ofc |
| 19:28.28 | AsaPhelps | does building buildings have a range that can be modified or is it always melee? |
| 19:28.48 | Vail | the building ability can have a range |
| 19:28.49 | mattavich-377 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.52 | mattavich-377 | I currently use that |
| 19:28.55 | mattavich-377 | i willt ake a look |
| 19:29.08 | mattavich-377 | I want it to STOP moving to region and instead move to the rally of a building |
| 19:29.25 | Vail | the build ability can have a range i mean i use it for a conyard like in CnC |
| 19:29.31 | Cobellanez | Ok, I've added a weapon to a unit, but how do I make that weapon appear on the unit's Info area? |
| 19:29.34 | AsaPhelps | conyard? |
| 19:29.40 | Wartex | then replace existing orders should override what they currently are doing |
| 19:29.47 | AsaPhelps | look at the ui - damage effect field |
| 19:30.12 | Vail | its short for Construction Yard its where all other structures are produced from |
| 19:30.18 | AsaPhelps | ui - damage display effect |
| 19:30.23 | AsaPhelps | thats what you see in the ui |
| 19:30.31 | AsaPhelps | so just set it to the damage of the effect |
| 19:30.40 | Cobellanez | Hmm |
| 19:30.46 | Cobellanez | It is but it doesn't show up |
| 19:31.03 | Vail | is the weapon hidden? |
| 19:31.06 | AsaPhelps | you sure you have the damage display field and not the other one? |
| 19:31.11 | Cobellanez | How would I know? |
| 19:31.16 | AsaPhelps | did you equip the weapon |
| 19:32.16 | Cobellanez | Ah, found it |
| 19:32.50 | th15 | anyone know what the function name for modulo is? |
| 19:33.36 | Xackery | modulo is an arithmetic operation isnt it? probably under real/integer types |
| 19:34.16 | th15 | oh ModI |
| 19:34.19 | th15 | keep forgetting the I |
| 19:34.19 | Xackery | Yeah,, it's a "real" |
| 19:34.31 | th15 | thanks |
| 19:35.12 | Vulfe | For future reference, someone should note that ScreenButtonID does not accept arrays |
| 19:35.19 | AsaPhelps | noted |
| 19:35.21 | Vulfe | it doesn't even tell you, it just makes it not work x.x |
| 19:35.27 | Xackery | http://a.imageshack.us/img825/5913/fft.png heh. XD |
| 19:35.31 | AsaPhelps | xackery, the man with all the answers |
| 19:35.59 | AsaPhelps | I didnt know bags was a weapon |
| 19:36.07 | Vulfe | modulo is fabulous |
| 19:36.11 | Xackery | It is in final fantasy tactics |
| 19:36.21 | Vulfe | does it return integer or boolean? |
| 19:36.22 | AsaPhelps | never played it |
| 19:36.25 | AsaPhelps | but i heard good things |
| 19:36.42 | AsaPhelps | anyway, is it possible to have more than 4 command cards per unit |
| 19:36.51 | wOlfLinG | in an action definition, is it possible to check if a parameter is the same as a text array? |
| 19:37.05 | Vail | no its not possible to have more than four |
| 19:37.15 | AsaPhelps | are you sure?! |
| 19:37.21 | Vail | pretty much |
| 19:37.30 | wOlfLinG | Asa: Try this trick |
| 19:37.32 | Xackery | I wonder can you catalog edit command cards, or is there any way to add an ability during runtime? |
| 19:37.34 | AsaPhelps | if i found a way would you let me kill you |
| 19:37.46 | wOlfLinG | Basically, what you do is add a lot of requirements |
| 19:37.58 | wOlfLinG | So, click this button, CC5 is turned on |
| 19:38.00 | Xackery | haha Wolf, that's a headache |
| 19:38.01 | Vail | if you find away then id let you tell me |
| 19:38.02 | rooj | yay FFT |
| 19:38.05 | Xackery | but it works |
| 19:38.08 | rooj | is that what youre making xackery? |
| 19:38.10 | wOlfLinG | Which shows the CC buttons that you want on the 5th card |
| 19:38.20 | Xackery | rooj: That's my project after I finish Raynor Defense |
| 19:38.22 | wOlfLinG | complicated, but should work :P |
| 19:38.22 | th15 | does anyone know if galaxycode's int is 4 byte unsigned? |
| 19:38.32 | rooj | yay |
| 19:38.36 | Xackery | http://code.google.com/p/fftacticsrpg/w/list I'll be releasing it for public consumption etc |
| 19:38.56 | wOlfLinG | Anyway, text referencing sorta things: Possible or not? |
| 19:38.56 | AsaPhelps | consumption |
| 19:39.09 | Vulfe | ScreenButtonID doesn't accept variables |
| 19:39.12 | Vulfe | I'll check constants |
| 19:39.17 | Vulfe | but this is getting to be a pain in the ass |
| 19:39.17 | Vulfe | lol |
| 19:39.25 | AsaPhelps | if you have a unit |
| 19:39.28 | AsaPhelps | instantly morph to another |
| 19:39.37 | AsaPhelps | they don't share command cards right |
| 19:39.44 | Vulfe | no |
| 19:39.55 | AsaPhelps | so your build key could morph him into something |
| 19:40.00 | AsaPhelps | with command cards |
| 19:40.02 | wOlfLinG | -.- guh. If i can't find out how to check a parameter against a text array, i'll have to restructure my whole quest log |
| 19:40.03 | AsaPhelps | maybe that'd work |
| 19:40.18 | AsaPhelps | though i'll probably make 5 things to build then give up |
| 19:40.22 | Vulfe | Zzzzz |
| 19:40.26 | Vulfe | WHy don't edit boxes work |
| 19:40.27 | Vulfe | so lame |
| 19:40.28 | Vulfe | lol |
| 19:41.03 | wOlfLinG | What is the point of the edit box btw? |
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| 19:41.30 | th15 | anyone wanna do some binary math? |
| 19:41.42 | wOlfLinG | depends |
| 19:41.43 | Xackery | before I mess with this, anyone tried a catalog edit on a command card during runtime? heh. |
| 19:41.57 | wOlfLinG | No, but it may be possible |
| 19:42.03 | Xackery | x = x ^ 1; y = y & 2; z = z | 4; |
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| 19:42.24 | Tordecybombo | hi |
| 19:42.28 | Xackery | w = w << 3; |
| 19:42.37 | Xackery | Howdy Tordecybombo |
| 19:42.42 | th15 | Given input of 65535 this will output 65535, 255, 255, 0, 0 |
| 19:42.42 | th15 | http://pastebin.com/VjVqGVWr |
| 19:42.48 | th15 | anyone know what i've screwed up? |
| 19:43.17 | th15 | Im trying to decomose an integer into 4 bytes |
| 19:43.22 | wOlfLinG | well, 256 is a byte, so that could be something to do with it |
| 19:43.30 | wOlfLinG | or something anyway |
| 19:43.34 | th15 | that... would be the plan. yes. |
| 19:43.47 | wOlfLinG | 256 is a quarter of something xD |
| 19:43.50 | th15 | so unless galaxycode's int implementation is actually a short |
| 19:43.55 | th15 | it puzzles me |
| 19:43.58 | wOlfLinG | could be |
| 19:44.05 | Xackery | is there a count or sizeof() command in blizz? |
| 19:44.15 | wOlfLinG | But i'm a script nub, so it's better not to ask me :P |
| 19:44.43 | wOlfLinG | Anyway, i'll keep asking until someone answers me |
| 19:44.45 | Tordecybombo | hi s3rius |
| 19:44.50 | th15 | oddly enough, 16777216 will output 0,0,0,1 |
| 19:44.53 | s3rius | hoi |
| 19:44.53 | th15 | which makes no sense |
| 19:45.03 | RaydenUni | so how do i manage developing a mod and a map at the same time AND testing it on battle.net? |
| 19:45.13 | wOlfLinG | Is it possible to compare a text param in an action definition with a text array? |
| 19:45.23 | jorgenpt | You can't compare a Game Link - Upgrade in a trigger? :o |
| 19:45.41 | Vulfe | What makes you think you can't, jorgen? |
| 19:46.01 | jorgenpt | Vulfe: Well, it won't let me select that field of my Record in Comparison |
| 19:46.14 | Vulfe | ic |
| 19:47.10 | jorgenpt | Huh |
| 19:47.17 | jorgenpt | It just won't let me select it for the LHS |
| 19:47.35 | jorgenpt | If I select the other value I want to compare for the LHS, the field shows up in my Record on the RHS |
| 19:47.54 | DarkRevenant | yo th15 |
| 19:48.07 | jorgenpt | So I can do Upgrade == Upgrades[Current Upgrade].Upgrade |
| 19:48.07 | DarkRevenant | how's BSF going? |
| 19:48.18 | jorgenpt | But not Upgrades[Current Upgrade].Upgrade == Upgrade |
| 19:48.18 | jorgenpt | :-p |
| 19:49.04 | Clord | you can just use GUI if you are unsure |
| 19:49.04 | Clord | XD |
| 19:49.06 | Clord | lol |
| 19:49.50 | jorgenpt | Are you talking to me? :) |
| 19:49.56 | wOlfLinG | Is it possible to compare a text param in an action definition with a text array? |
| 19:50.07 | wOlfLinG | Still waiting for an answer to that xD |
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| 19:53.22 | soundsnc | wolfling: im pretty sure you cant |
| 19:53.31 | wOlfLinG | -.- |
| 19:53.37 | wOlfLinG | Ok, that is bad |
| 19:53.39 | soundsnc | the text variable/perameter doesnt even show up in the comparison gui |
| 19:53.46 | soundsnc | you may be able to do it with a custom script |
| 19:53.48 | wOlfLinG | Thats why i was asking :/ |
| 19:54.32 | wOlfLinG | I need to check if 'Param_Name' == 'Q_Name[i]' in a for each integer loop -.- |
| 19:54.34 | RaydenUni | i wish i got more descriptive trigger error messages |
| 19:55.01 | wOlfLinG | If i can't then i'll need to redesign my quest log :/ |
| 19:55.38 | soundsnc | why dont you refer to the quest id |
| 19:55.40 | soundsnc | instead of the name |
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| 19:55.54 | th15 | Darkrevenant: Same as ever, ill work on it sometime :) |
| 19:56.00 | th15 | for now we've got that blizzard map contest :) |
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| 19:56.16 | wOlfLinG | Because to find the ID i need to check the name :/ |
| 19:56.31 | th15 | anyone know why if ((points < 0) || (points > 1073741824)) result = ""; won't compile? |
| 19:56.38 | soundsnc | why? you should need the id to get the name |
| 19:56.38 | th15 | what's the conditional OR operator? |
| 19:56.43 | soundsnc | array q_name[id] |
| 19:57.11 | wOlfLinG | It's complicated. The finish quest and the create quest are differant |
| 19:57.11 | th15 | oh it needs the braces |
| 19:57.12 | th15 | bah |
| 19:57.22 | wOlfLinG | they are 2 differant action definitions |
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| 19:59.50 | th15 | eh what the hell |
| 19:59.54 | th15 | how do we get one letter in a stirng |
| 20:00.54 | th15 | is sc2m down for anyone else? |
| 20:01.11 | DarkRevenant | one letter? |
| 20:01.30 | DarkRevenant | substring from X to X |
| 20:01.39 | th15 | so, so thats what StringSub means |
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| 20:01.43 | th15 | i though it was substitute! |
| 20:02.05 | soundsnc | in fact i would store my quest as a record wolfling |
| 20:02.18 | DarkRevenant | it's worth playing around in GUI first before coding since there is no other documentation on Galaxy except for the stuff in the GUI |
| 20:02.19 | soundsnc | then you would have the record as an array and all of the quest properties within the record |
| 20:02.28 | soundsnc | and fetch all that info based on the id |
| 20:02.36 | wOlfLinG | hmm... nice idea |
| 20:02.43 | th15 | yea ive been writing stuff in GUI, breaking the compile and lookign at the script in the debugger |
| 20:02.43 | wOlfLinG | Not used records yet though |
| 20:02.50 | th15 | well, if you can call that crock of crap a debugger. |
| 20:02.52 | wOlfLinG | so it may not be that good to use |
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| 20:03.00 | DarkRevenant | that debugger is also |
| 20:03.03 | DarkRevenant | beyond slow |
| 20:03.07 | th15 | uh huh |
| 20:03.10 | soundsnc | pretty easy, new record->set up its variables. make a new global variable, set it to the record you created with an array index. done |
| 20:03.51 | wOlfLinG | k |
| 20:03.54 | DarkRevenant | it's quite possibly the slowest thing in the universe; any kind of periodic trigger will rape the framerate of the map |
| 20:04.00 | DarkRevenant | if the debug windows is up |
| 20:04.16 | th15 | we cant pass arrays as argumetns right? |
| 20:05.17 | soundsnc | th15, arguments for what? a custom function? |
| 20:05.18 | soundsnc | sure you can |
| 20:05.46 | soundsnc | just make sure the array's data type matches the perameter type the function is looking for |
| 20:06.09 | th15 | eh really? |
| 20:06.18 | th15 | so it just treats it as a pointer anyways? |
| 20:07.38 | RaydenUni | probably |
| 20:07.45 | soundsnc | wasnt a big wc3 coder so im not sure what you mean by a pointer, but you can totally pass an array np |
| 20:07.54 | RaydenUni | pointer isn't a wc3 thing |
| 20:07.59 | RaydenUni | it's a programming language thing |
| 20:08.09 | RaydenUni | c, c++, that sort of thing |
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| 20:08.21 | th15 | i was under the impression they took out all the pointers after beta |
| 20:08.24 | soundsnc | alright, what do you mean then? |
| 20:08.27 | th15 | but i guess they just made it implicit |
| 20:08.28 | RaydenUni | what? |
| 20:08.36 | th15 | a pointer isn't a variable, it's the locaiton of a variable |
| 20:08.36 | soundsnc | like, the purpose of them |
| 20:08.41 | RaydenUni | stupid scripting languages |
| 20:08.47 | RaydenUni | what is the purpose of a pointer? |
| 20:08.48 | soundsnc | oh, sort of like an object definition? |
| 20:08.49 | th15 | it lets you do silly things with your memory |
| 20:08.55 | th15 | no nothing like that at all |
| 20:09.00 | RaydenUni | I just bought a used car. Has Toyota gone bankrupt yet? |
| 20:09.01 | th15 | it just tells you where in memory a variable is |
| 20:09.03 | RaydenUni | oops |
| 20:09.04 | RaydenUni | http://cslibrary.stanford.edu/106/ |
| 20:09.08 | th15 | lol |
| 20:09.56 | th15 | does anyone have a function to convert a string into a char? |
| 20:10.02 | th15 | at least, the byte value of the char |
| 20:10.37 | th15 | i'd really liketo avoid writing my own lookup table for ascii |
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| 20:12.43 | Tordecybombo | how do i make it so you need multiple units of the same type to stack behaviors? |
| 20:13.09 | Tordecybombo | I have this unit that applies some negative behavior on each attack |
| 20:13.18 | Tordecybombo | but i dont want it to be able to stack behaviors alone |
| 20:13.39 | Tordecybombo | i want it so max # of stacked behaviors = # of those units |
| 20:13.56 | Tordecybombo | is it possible? |
| 20:14.30 | Tordecybombo | oh wow im dumb |
| 20:14.31 | Tordecybombo | nvm |
| 20:14.57 | Tordecybombo | stacked behaviors do not refresh the older behaviors right? |
| 20:15.17 | Tordecybombo | best way to try is to test :x |
| 20:16.36 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 20:16.46 | th15 | err player name length |
| 20:16.51 | RaydenUni | now my map and mod are staying linked, but the map just doesn't see the mod changes |
| 20:16.52 | RaydenUni | arg |
| 20:16.58 | th15 | anyone know what the max player name length is on bnet? |
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| 20:20.19 | Vail | raydenuni you have to close the map and reopen every time you edit and save the mod |
| 20:20.26 | RaydenUni | this didn't used to happen |
| 20:20.28 | RaydenUni | it would work |
| 20:20.44 | RaydenUni | then it would randomly decide it didn't know anything about my modand i'd have to fiddle with the dependencies to fix it |
| 20:20.46 | Vail | i know ... you used to be able to set a map and test mods alone |
| 20:20.50 | HR_ | im looking for a way to have chat default to all players, and still have player units autoattack each other |
| 20:21.00 | mattavich-377 | Hey - Does this look right? |
| 20:21.00 | mattavich-377 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.08 | mattavich-377 | This wills ave each integer right? |
| 20:21.14 | mattavich-377 | from 1-8 into ym variable? |
| 20:21.17 | HR_ | is there a way to make chat to all default, or a way to make allied players autoattack each other? |
| 20:21.25 | mattavich-377 | so variable [1] = 1? |
| 20:21.43 | HR_ | maybe a buff that makes a unit attack allies |
| 20:21.52 | RaydenUni | vail, they changed something? |
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| 20:22.02 | RaydenUni | i will really need to bitch at my friend who is on QA for the editor |
| 20:22.12 | Vail | yeah. |
| 20:22.19 | Vail | you really need to do that |
| 20:22.29 | Saucy | Does anyone know if it's possible to add attachment points to unit? or give it some sort of offset? |
| 20:22.52 | th15 | its done in the model if you want to add attachement points |
| 20:22.58 | Saucy | :\ |
| 20:23.00 | Vail | there is a tutorial on that ... |
| 20:23.00 | HR_ | you might be able to give the object your attaching an offset, with host site operation |
| 20:23.03 | th15 | Prozaic has a good tutorial on how to offset from attachments though |
| 20:23.07 | th15 | yea like that |
| 20:23.09 | Pierrot | hmm |
| 20:23.22 | Saucy | Alright |
| 20:23.27 | Pierrot | how can i make a night elves cloack like spell |
| 20:23.36 | Saucy | I'll keep looking for some way to give an offset :\ |
| 20:23.37 | Pierrot | they become cloacked when idle |
| 20:24.10 | Pierrot | i have the validator but i can't get the behavior to refresh when i become idle again |
| 20:24.20 | Vail | shadow meld hmm. |
| 20:24.21 | HR_ | could i have an effect that orders a unit to attack? then i could make allied unit attack each other |
| 20:24.40 | th15 | what? we can't get a string from text? wtf?! |
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| 20:25.18 | HR_ | yep, effect type issue order... so i can make a buff trigger that |
| 20:26.01 | th15 | how the hell do i get player name then |
| 20:26.02 | th15 | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 20:26.08 | HR_ | no easier way to make chat to all the default or make allies auto-atttack each other? |
| 20:26.29 | HR_ | lol... i storeded player name as a text |
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| 20:27.09 | th15 | wtfffffffffffffffffffffff |
| 20:27.44 | Blackthorn | Was wondering if someone could help, I'm trying to make an event that triggers when a unit comes within range of any building of a cirtian type. Anyone done something like this already? |
| 20:28.25 | Pierrot | Ok i made my shadow meld working |
| 20:28.28 | Pierrot | easy |
| 20:28.31 | th15 | WTF WTF WTF for reals, we can't do ANYTHING ith the playername |
| 20:28.33 | th15 | wtfwtfwtf |
| 20:29.29 | HR_ | you could make the building attack a target for zero and trigger that? |
| 20:30.27 | HR_ | you could give building an aura buff, but then u gotta check for the buff periodicly |
| 20:30.31 | Pierrot | For your interest : A behavior with 0.5 period > Effect Apply behavior "my cloacking behavior" with my validator Ismoving > "my cloacking behavior" with a remove validator set as Ismoving and voilà! |
| 20:30.50 | Blackthorn | HR_ Oh, good idea |
| 20:30.58 | Blackthorn | hrm, |
| 20:31.13 | Blackthorn | Think that would work |
| 20:31.51 | soundsnc | anyone figure out how to get a trigger to execute a units ability where it asks the player for the target first? |
| 20:32.02 | Wartex | any flag or something I could check to have my autocast ability fire even when moving? |
| 20:32.13 | HR_ | i wondered that myself soundsnc |
| 20:32.14 | Pierrot | BlackThorn : you coud make it more accurate by putting hook effect in the buff |
| 20:32.29 | soundsnc | ie: high templar storm automatically giving me the AOE cursor and asking for a target via trigger |
| 20:32.33 | soundsnc | if anyone figures it out |
| 20:32.36 | soundsnc | ill love you forever |
| 20:32.37 | Blackthorn | Hook effect? |
| 20:32.42 | Pierrot | you make an aura that deal a damage effect set to 0 damage |
| 20:32.47 | Pierrot | tehn in trigger event |
| 20:32.54 | Pierrot | you say a unit take damage |
| 20:32.54 | Blackthorn | Ah ok |
| 20:32.59 | Pierrot | and you put the effect |
| 20:33.08 | Pierrot | you can put target filter on effect |
| 20:33.17 | Pierrot | so one for flying ground |
| 20:33.19 | Pierrot | heroic |
| 20:33.22 | Pierrot | whatever |
| 20:33.31 | Pierrot | not professional |
| 20:33.35 | Pierrot | but it works |
| 20:33.36 | DarkRevenant | th15: due to localization issues, player name is gotten as text |
| 20:34.02 | DarkRevenant | also due to localization issues, text may not be compared or otherwise synced online |
| 20:34.16 | DarkRevenant | otherwise the players run the risk of instantly desyncing and the game ends |
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| 20:34.41 | RedWraith | ~seen Mindworx` |
| 20:34.42 | purl | mindworx` is currently on #sc2mapster (9h 55m 32s), last said: 'Might be a setting on the item itself?'. |
| 20:34.54 | th15 | screw the text |
| 20:35.01 | th15 | i jsut need something unique to identify the player |
| 20:35.04 | th15 | its for encryption |
| 20:35.13 | th15 | and if there's nothing, well then, its just not going to happen |
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| 20:36.11 | RandomUser12 | hello |
| 20:36.18 | HeyRevolver | Yo |
| 20:36.29 | RandomUser12 | i have a problem with my cliffs |
| 20:36.48 | RandomUser12 | they look like they are half blended into the lower level |
| 20:36.55 | RandomUser12 | and it looks horrible |
| 20:37.03 | RandomUser12 | especially on man made cliffs |
| 20:37.11 | RandomUser12 | anyone seen this before? |
| 20:37.20 | Wartex | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqiulSLFncc <-- whoah O____o |
| 20:37.29 | soundsnc | yes but only in the editor, not in game. theres a terrain setting in the view to turn it off in the editor |
| 20:37.48 | Wartex | the only 3rd person shooter-mod i've seen so far that i would want to play |
| 20:38.00 | RedWraith | Wartex |
| 20:38.00 | HeyRevolver | how do i make doodads block los |
| 20:38.07 | HeyRevolver | so that peeps can shoot through em |
| 20:38.08 | RedWraith | WASD based movement is too slow to use properly. |
| 20:38.22 | Wartex | I've heard of the lag :/ |
| 20:38.23 | soundsnc | view->show terrain->show hidden terrain cells |
| 20:38.43 | soundsnc | fyi randomuser |
| 20:39.04 | jorgenpt | Aw fuck me. |
| 20:39.19 | jorgenpt | Silly "Required Type" dropdown on top of comparison value selection. |
| 20:40.34 | RandomUser12 | thanks soundsnc |
| 20:40.42 | RandomUser12 | that fixed it |
| 20:41.13 | soundsnc | np |
| 20:46.31 | rooj | holy shit @ that 3PS mod |
| 20:46.44 | RedWraith | There's a console in the editor, yes? |
| 20:46.55 | HR_ | ya autoattackallies behavior is not working.... isnt there some way to have a weapon auto aquire allies? |
| 20:48.26 | mattavich-377 | is there a make ally enemy function somewhere maybe? |
| 20:48.55 | HR_ | i need them to be allies just so that chat goes to everyone tho |
| 20:49.25 | HR_ | unless i can make the units enemies but not the players |
| 20:49.34 | mattavich-377 | I'm also looking to find out how i can make "chat to all" default |
| 20:49.55 | HR_ | that would definatly be the best way |
| 20:52.28 | HR_ | maybe i can make the units on a different team from the player that would make them all enemies, but shares control with the player |
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| 20:53.25 | RedWraith | programmer |
| 20:53.30 | RedWraith | does the editor have a console? |
| 20:53.52 | progammer | which editor |
| 20:53.58 | progammer | galaxy > |
| 20:53.59 | RedWraith | galaxy |
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| 20:54.08 | Xackery | Window -> Console |
| 20:54.13 | progammer | not sure but ithink its not |
| 20:54.20 | RedWraith | xackery :| |
| 20:54.25 | ZarafFaraz_ | hey guys |
| 20:54.27 | progammer | it has a debugging window |
| 20:54.36 | progammer | though the actual game has console |
| 20:54.48 | RedWraith | I swear there was one you could access via the Windows panel or whatever it's called near the lighting editor |
| 20:55.00 | progammer | and btw some1 still spelled my name wronf |
| 20:55.03 | progammer | wrong |
| 20:55.12 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 20:55.14 | RedWraith | progammer |
| 20:55.15 | RedWraith | :| |
| 20:55.32 | rrowland | Maybe you spelled your name wrong, and everyone else spells it right |
| 20:55.33 | RedWraith | Are you a programmer or a progamer?! I don't know! |
| 20:55.35 | progammer | ok its has a console |
| 20:55.44 | RedWraith | YES! |
| 20:55.48 | progammer | Alt+` |
| 20:55.51 | RedWraith | Now, if only I could find a list of console commands. |
| 20:56.04 | RedWraith | I...want to modify .mpqs directly. >_> |
| 20:56.07 | progammer | it might be the same as the game console |
| 20:56.08 | RedWraith | with the map open |
| 20:56.13 | progammer | and no u cant modify it via console |
| 20:56.48 | RedWraith | I find it ridiculous there's no way to modify mpqs directly, frustrating in fact. |
| 20:57.19 | wOlfLinG | btw, how do i make it so if i type '-remove ####' (with the #s as numbers) it runs an action definition with a parameter of that number? |
| 20:57.19 | HR_ | ooh ooh ooh maybe this will work? Player - Turn player 1 Allied Chat On towards player 2 |
| 20:57.21 | progammer | mpq are archive ? why it let you modify it on the fly if its an archive |
| 20:57.31 | RedWraith | If units were xml files, I'd prefer that to the data editor any day. |
| 20:57.35 | HR_ | looks like it |
| 20:57.58 | progammer | data editor object are xml file store in map mpq |
| 20:58.02 | RedWraith | yup |
| 20:58.15 | progammer | when the map load its load in the memory and you can set catalogue value that way |
| 20:58.16 | RedWraith | Blizzard clearly does it, though. |
| 20:58.17 | RedWraith | :P |
| 20:58.46 | progammer | modifying the map mpq before loading is like these game crack launcher out there |
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| 20:59.14 | RedWraith | hmm |
| 20:59.36 | RedWraith | I was testing modifying actors via catalogs yesterday |
| 20:59.41 | RedWraith | and it doesn't seem possible |
| 20:59.46 | RedWraith | which is very strange to me |
| 21:00.09 | Klonkq | im making a hero ability out of the spider mines ability, and i want to add a functionality that it has 3 charges (already done) but that the charges regenerate with a cooldown when the old mines blow up |
| 21:00.11 | Klonkq | any ideas? |
| 21:00.33 | ZarafFaraz | you can just add charges to any ability via triggers |
| 21:00.46 | ZarafFaraz | so whenever that ability is used, just add a charge back to the unit |
| 21:00.55 | Klonkq | hm |
| 21:00.58 | RedWraith | Klonkq, there should be a way for the mines to target the caster |
| 21:00.59 | RedWraith | on death |
| 21:01.00 | ZarafFaraz | or rather, when the mine blows up |
| 21:01.08 | RedWraith | and that could be used to regenerate charges |
| 21:01.23 | ZarafFaraz | well, just assign a custom value to them |
| 21:01.31 | ZarafFaraz | that is the same as the player number or something |
| 21:01.50 | ZarafFaraz | and when they die, check the player number and give it back to them |
| 21:01.56 | Klonkq | if possible i would like to do it with the data editor for practice since i have about 100000000000000000 abilities to be done after this |
| 21:02.27 | ZarafFaraz | sounds like your map will never be finished then |
| 21:02.57 | Klonkq | that may be |
| 21:03.00 | Klonkq | your point? :) |
| 21:03.14 | ZarafFaraz | no point, just an observation |
| 21:03.15 | Lilianna | maps should never be finished! |
| 21:04.02 | ZarafFaraz | I prefer working on projects I expect to finish. Some people enjoy more of an "open ended" project. Whatever you like. |
| 21:04.49 | Xackery | Klonkq: it's doable, but the charge regeneration built into SC2 is addative, meaning if you say "regenerate a charge every 3 seconds", and use all 3 charges, it'll take 9 seconds to regen 1 charge.. if you have 2 charges, and regen the last one, it'll take 3 seconds. XD |
| 21:04.54 | Klonkq | i do expect to finish it. |
| 21:05.24 | Klonkq | the cooldown does not matter much |
| 21:05.45 | Klonkq | i want to only have 3 mines at a time, and regen a charge as one blows up, thats the important part |
| 21:06.09 | Xackery | and what's the problem? |
| 21:06.16 | Klonkq | I dont know how to do it :) |
| 21:06.18 | ZarafFaraz | he just wanted to know how to do it |
| 21:06.24 | Lilianna | You could probably have when you place a spider mine that unit gets 1 stack of a buff, up to 3, and when a spidermine dies, it goes down by 1, If you have < 3 charges and < 3 buffs, you start to regen one |
| 21:06.26 | ZarafFaraz | and preferrably though data editor alone, without triggers |
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| 21:06.41 | Lilianna | I dont know completely how to implement it right now, but thats what I would go about looking to do |
| 21:06.55 | ZarafFaraz | you don't need buffs or anything...just a very simple trigger |
| 21:07.06 | Lilianna | Dont want to use triggers. :p |
| 21:07.07 | Xackery | Inside Cost+, make sure an entry is in there. Select it, change inside the Charge section Count (max) to 3. Set Count (start) to how many you want to start them with. Set Count (Use) to how many charges are used per usage. E.g., 1. |
| 21:07.08 | Xackery | There you go. |
| 21:07.16 | Xackery | Regen setting is below that, the Time Start/Time Use timers. |
| 21:07.26 | ZarafFaraz | Lilianna, how would they automatically regen without triggers then? |
| 21:07.35 | Klonkq | thanks |
| 21:07.36 | Lilianna | Events in data editor |
| 21:07.47 | ZarafFaraz | hmm |
| 21:07.48 | Lilianna | they do lots of things |
| 21:07.52 | ZarafFaraz | interesting |
| 21:08.21 | Xackery | that's all found in the Ability tab, Klonkq. |
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| 21:08.59 | soundsnc | anyone know how to remove a tint color from an actor? |
| 21:09.10 | Klonkq | This wont stop me from having a billion mines on the field will it? |
| 21:09.27 | soundsnc | cast start - tint color |
| 21:09.27 | Xackery | Klonkq: Give the mines a timer if you want them to die |
| 21:09.30 | soundsnc | cast end - remove tint |
| 21:09.53 | soundsnc | ive got it tiniting, but im struggling to find a way to make it stop |
| 21:09.57 | Xackery | another potential bug you may stubmle upon Klonkq: If you have multiple levels of a charge ability like I said above, they get really funky real fast, with the previous skill level leaking to the next one |
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| 21:10.46 | Klonkq | ill cross that bridge when i get to it |
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| 21:11.12 | Xackery | In the end I handled the regeneration of charges entirely script based, just because I was tired of all the silly bugs. XD |
| 21:11.38 | Vail | Klonkq you may want to look at the Requirement Hatchery Spawn Larva |
| 21:11.40 | ZarafFaraz | scripting/triggering does seem to be the most reliable in the end |
| 21:12.04 | Lilianna | Simpliest I would say |
| 21:12.17 | Xackery | If their charge system worked proper, it'd be a diff story |
| 21:12.19 | Lilianna | Im working on a triggerless WASD movement system. :) |
| 21:12.22 | Xackery | but they have a lot of bugs with it right now |
| 21:12.25 | Zanam | has anyone done a randomizing start locations in a map I could take a look at? Stumped as to where to begin to compile this... randomized starts for FFA mode, semi-random for team mode (similar to melee maps) |
| 21:12.38 | Klonkq | hmmm thats a good point Vail, cheers |
| 21:15.02 | ZarafFaraz | Anyone here tried to replicate the Blizzard gain achievement animation? |
| 21:15.30 | Zanam | zaraffaraz, there's a library on the forums for an achievement, but it's not quite as flashy. It looks good though, and easily customizable |
| 21:16.02 | ZarafFaraz | yeah I saw that, but I want to see if it's possible to replicate the animation, not just a dialog window that fades in and out |
| 21:16.11 | Zanam | not that i'm aware of |
| 21:17.01 | Xackery | yay. wrote a validator to check if my unique pet has spawned, and if not, autocast summoning. <3 |
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| 21:19.16 | ZarafFaraz | nice |
| 21:19.44 | Xackery | hmm, you can use this system to do sanity checks on one pet at a time, too |
| 21:20.26 | Xackery | nifty. |
| 21:20.35 | Helral | meows |
| 21:20.40 | Xackery | howdy Helral |
| 21:20.43 | ZarafFaraz | hey Helral |
| 21:20.55 | ZarafFaraz | I was trying earlier what you mentioned |
| 21:21.01 | Helral | I smelled someone talking about one of my assets a while ago :P |
| 21:21.05 | ZarafFaraz | create custom achievement in the data editor and then use a trigger |
| 21:21.29 | ZarafFaraz | but the only thing that happens is that it creates a dialog window with the grey achievement box, and nothing more |
| 21:21.30 | Xackery | http://a.imageshack.us/img265/9972/rawrd.png |
| 21:21.40 | Xackery | :D |
| 21:21.56 | Helral | lol |
| 21:22.32 | ZarafFaraz | so I'm still not sure how you accessed the "Gain Achievement" animation |
| 21:22.45 | Helral | uhm what you mean accessed? |
| 21:22.49 | Helral | I written that myself :P |
| 21:22.57 | progammer_ | its bnet related, part of the bnet ui so you cant do that |
| 21:22.58 | Helral | the fade in and fade out :P |
| 21:23.12 | ZarafFaraz | ahh, thanks progammer |
| 21:23.32 | progammer_ | thouhg heral one's was nice ? does it animate in any way ? |
| 21:23.37 | ZarafFaraz | Helral, I thought you said before that you managed to do the animation, but it caused a crash. |
| 21:24.08 | Helral | I tried creating a dialog item achievement. |
| 21:24.13 | Helral | and that crashed sc2. |
| 21:24.30 | ZarafFaraz | hasn't crashed for me |
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| 21:24.42 | ZarafFaraz | it just creates the box that you see when you finish a mission |
| 21:24.48 | ZarafFaraz | where you see the 3 achievements |
| 21:25.03 | Helral | ahhhh |
| 21:25.12 | Helral | they added that at release then. |
| 21:25.25 | ZarafFaraz | yeah, since the beta probably didn't have that |
| 21:25.32 | ZarafFaraz | seeing how it's linked to missions lol |
| 21:26.42 | jorgenpt | I'm making a library for having dialog-based shared shops from e.g. neutral units. Anyone interested in that? |
| 21:26.49 | jorgenpt | Without Interact etc |
| 21:26.57 | jorgenpt | Capable of supporting Upgrades! |
| 21:27.08 | ZarafFaraz | I imagine a lot of RPGs would like that |
| 21:27.13 | Wartex | sounds awesome for my map |
| 21:27.34 | jorgenpt | I currently have the data structures and create vendor / add upgrade. |
| 21:27.46 | jorgenpt | I need to add the displaying, which I guess is no small feat. :-) |
| 21:27.50 | jorgenpt | (and interaction) |
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| 21:28.41 | Wartex | is it possible to have an upgrade apply a behaviour to units? Can't see any of the default blizzard upgrades doing this |
| 21:29.04 | Wartex | I just want to be able to buy an upgrade to have my civilians get the run behaviour |
| 21:29.35 | Helral | Wartex: give the unit the behavior and disable it until the validator is correct (validator being upgrade researched) |
| 21:29.49 | Wartex | good idea! :D |
| 21:30.22 | pinzu | helral, can one upgrade effects damage? |
| 21:30.31 | pinzu | if I use a trigger do do damage, can I upgrade it? |
| 21:30.43 | Helral | hmmm |
| 21:30.49 | pinzu | without havning more of them |
| 21:30.55 | Helral | dunno how well that would work.... |
| 21:30.56 | pinzu | and check which one I want to call |
| 21:30.59 | Helral | you can try. |
| 21:31.05 | Helral | but doubt it. |
| 21:31.26 | Wartex | pinzu, that would work actually |
| 21:37.35 | HR_ | does space bar do anything in game? |
| 21:37.52 | HR_ | i have it set to a trigger and now for somereason when i hit it it messes up my camera |
| 21:38.06 | pinzu | hmm |
| 21:38.47 | pinzu | with data I could attach strings to effects? |
| 21:38.47 | pinzu | hash tables they are called* ? |
| 21:38.48 | Helral | focus camera on last alert position. |
| 21:38.48 | Helral | that's what spacebar does. |
| 21:38.48 | Helral | like unit completed, or town under attack. |
| 21:38.59 | HR_ | ty |
| 21:39.08 | HR_ | just the answer i was looking for |
| 21:39.12 | pinzu | helral, |
| 21:39.19 | Helral | meow? |
| 21:39.20 | pinzu | lets say I have a intiger, "Damage" |
| 21:39.30 | pinzu | then I have about 5 effectes |
| 21:39.35 | pinzu | dealing 1... 2... 3.. |
| 21:39.36 | pinzu | damage |
| 21:39.51 | pinzu | nvm |
| 21:39.55 | pinzu | call me retarded |
| 21:39.56 | pinzu | =) |
| 21:40.09 | Helral | calls pinzu "retarded" |
| 21:40.12 | pinzu | =) |
| 21:40.14 | ZarafFaraz | if I use a For Each Integer loop with a variable X, does the X automatically get reset back to 0 in each loop? Or do I need to manually do that? |
| 21:40.15 | Helral | XD |
| 21:40.28 | pinzu | I think |
| 21:40.32 | pinzu | it gets set to the last loop variable |
| 21:41.00 | pinzu | on second thoughts |
| 21:41.03 | pinzu | helral, |
| 21:41.15 | pinzu | how would I store the effects |
| 21:41.16 | Helral | For each Variable X, 1 to 10 increments of 1, <-- that one says var X = 1 at first loop, X=2 at second, etc. |
| 21:41.26 | ZarafFaraz | right |
| 21:41.34 | ZarafFaraz | then let's say you have another For Loop |
| 21:41.39 | pinzu | zara |
| 21:41.41 | ZarafFaraz | that comes after it, and not nested inside |
| 21:41.43 | pinzu | make a variable |
| 21:41.47 | pinzu | X |
| 21:41.49 | pinzu | make a message |
| 21:41.54 | pinzu | make a message after the loop |
| 21:41.56 | pinzu | profit |
| 21:41.59 | Helral | the first thing that the for each does is set the variable to the start value. |
| 21:42.00 | ZarafFaraz | if I use X again, do I need to do something like: "X = 0" before the second for loop? |
| 21:42.00 | pinzu | you will know the asnwer ;d |
| 21:42.04 | Helral | then starts increasing it. |
| 21:42.06 | Helral | nope |
| 21:42.19 | ZarafFaraz | ok good |
| 21:42.24 | ZarafFaraz | that's what I wanted to know, thanks |
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| 21:42.42 | Helral | so pinzu what was the question? |
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| 21:47.46 | Xaragoth | goddamn evaluation period for IRC |
| 21:47.52 | Xaragoth | took forever to trick it |
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| 21:49.08 | onetwo | hi |
| 21:49.09 | onetwo | PM |
| 21:49.16 | jorgenpt | Wartex: What about adding a Unit Command that's Passive, with a Behavior and a Requirement that checks for the upgrade? |
| 21:49.25 | jorgenpt | Wartex: Not sure if it'd work, but it's a thought. |
| 21:49.44 | jorgenpt | Wartex: Otherwise what Helral said, :) |
| 21:49.55 | Helral | meow? |
| 21:50.03 | jorgenpt | Purr. |
| 21:50.07 | Wartex | I don't know much about passive unit commands. I'm halfway through on Helrals suggestion, so I'm staying with it for now :P |
| 21:50.09 | Helral | meows |
| 21:51.52 | Helral | Sixen you here? |
| 21:53.21 | HR_ | anyone know a good ability to start from to make a frost missile? |
| 21:53.41 | HR_ | any kind of frost model to use as a missile... something blue |
| 21:54.01 | jorgenpt | Is there a TriggerRemoveEvent*? |
| 21:54.02 | HR_ | are there any frost abilities already? |
| 21:54.29 | Helral | jorgenpt: don't think so |
| 21:55.14 | Zanam | would love some assistance on random start location placement, this seems to have become more complex than I thought |
| 21:55.27 | Helral | hmmm? |
| 21:55.47 | pinzu | how random are we talking about here? |
| 21:56.03 | pinzu | at X location at X can be like 15 diffrent places? |
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| 21:56.20 | Zanam | not quite, more like blizzard melee random. ffa mode, fully random. teams, semi-random |
| 21:56.49 | pinzu | I havnt looked into that, but I suggest u open a meele map, can we do that? ;o |
| 21:56.50 | Zanam | capable of supporting all team combinations, 2v2, 3v3, 2v2v2v2, etc etc |
| 21:56.51 | Helral | so basicly you just create the correct setups in the game variants? |
| 21:57.06 | jorgenpt | How do you set up a trigger so it triggers when a unit comes in range of a /trigger created/ unit? |
| 21:57.35 | jorgenpt | I guess you could custom script and use TriggerAddEventUnitRange - but there's no way to remove them again. :( |
| 21:57.36 | Zanam | helral, the problem is the starting points are variant. my 64x64 map will be able to support hundreds of arenas, they are generated when the match starts |
| 21:57.52 | Helral | ahh |
| 21:58.11 | Zanam | so, i have it all set up that the arena is created, the possible start points go to their appropriate positions |
| 21:58.23 | onetwo | whatever happened to alpha vst |
| 21:58.24 | Zanam | now i'm on to figuring out how to correctly randomize and set up for team games |
| 21:58.25 | onetwo | and his zombie map |
| 21:59.08 | Zanam | i was really hoping for a player group - random player from player group but its not there! :( |
| 21:59.13 | jorgenpt | Does Attach Region mean the region moves with the unit? |
| 21:59.34 | pinzu | yes |
| 21:59.42 | pinzu | but that could be a problem if you want more units |
| 21:59.45 | pinzu | or?? |
| 22:00.49 | jorgenpt | Zanam: Use Player From Player Group (Index: Random Integer Min: 1 Max: Number Of Players In Player Group) |
| 22:00.55 | HR_ | i cant find anthing called frost ice freeze cold in the game... nothing that uses death type freeze... i guess i need to find a particle model to tint blue |
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| 22:01.08 | Vulfe | Greetings |
| 22:01.09 | Vulfe | noobs |
| 22:01.20 | Zanam | jorgenpt, that would be great, but what if say player 3 doesn't exist? players 1 2 and 4 are in the game, player 3 quit the last round. wouldn't that completely bork the system up |
| 22:01.38 | jorgenpt | Zanam: Use Player Group: Active Players |
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| 22:01.53 | Helral | Vulfe: get back on ventrilo :P |
| 22:01.54 | Zanam | can I choose a random group from active players though |
| 22:02.01 | Zanam | cause that would make my day |
| 22:02.01 | Kowz | Any 1 on NA up for a game of island defense? Its a remake of the wc3 map Island Defense :) |
| 22:02.11 | Zanam | random player from active players* |
| 22:02.12 | Vulfe | Lol |
| 22:02.16 | Helral | hmmm Zanam: well how do you define who are teamed up? |
| 22:02.18 | jorgenpt | Zanam: If you have players 3, 8 and 10 ingame, Active Players index 1 will be 3, index 2 will be 8 and index 3 will be 10. |
| 22:02.28 | jorgenpt | Zanam: Number of Players In Player group: Active Players will be 3 |
| 22:02.28 | Vulfe | Helral, I have to go out to dinner at my family's restaurant soon |
| 22:02.30 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 22:02.54 | jorgenpt | Zanam: Yes, just use Player From Player Group with Active Players. |
| 22:03.16 | Zanam | jorgenpt... that knowledge helps immensely. Helral: haven't made it that far yet, but was planning on it being defined in game variant |
| 22:03.23 | Helral | XD |
| 22:03.39 | Zanam | also your libraries rock. just fyi. |
| 22:03.51 | Helral | lol |
| 22:04.05 | Helral | ow I need to update my inventory library... |
| 22:04.11 | Helral | added dragged item dialog support. |
| 22:04.13 | jorgenpt | What libraries are those? |
| 22:05.32 | Kowz | Any 1 on NA up for a game of island defense? Its a remake of the wc3 map Island Defense :) |
| 22:07.24 | Helral | jorgenpt: http://www.sc2mapster.com/profiles/Helral/ <-- hope they show up :P if not then I need to look how to add the links to my profile :P |
| 22:07.40 | jorgenpt | They're on the recently updated, ye. |
| 22:07.53 | jorgenpt | Kowz: I'll join if you get a few players to join :-) |
| 22:08.06 | Kowz | hey jorgen |
| 22:08.06 | Xackery | ohuhiuh |
| 22:08.09 | Xackery | :,/ |
| 22:08.23 | Xackery | Sigh I wanna just submit my map to blizzard as is |
| 22:08.28 | Xackery | even though I still have a lot of shit to fix. :/ |
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| 22:08.43 | jorgenpt | Xackery: Hehe |
| 22:09.27 | Kowz | Any 1 on NA up for a game of island defense? Its a remake of the wc3 map Island Defense :) *join the game 3 spots!* |
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| 22:09.59 | goomba_ | beep beep boop |
| 22:10.04 | goomba_ | i am robogoomba |
| 22:10.23 | goomba_ | Calculating margin of awesome... ... ... |
| 22:10.27 | goomba_ | 100% |
| 22:10.39 | Kowz | Any 1 on NA up for a game of island defense? Its a remake of the wc3 map Island Defense :) :D:D:D:D:D:D |
| 22:10.43 | Kowz | need 3 moar :( |
| 22:10.55 | goomba_ | that map was made in this channel lolz |
| 22:11.21 | Helral | even goomba_ finds my assets 100% awesome XD |
| 22:11.41 | goomba_ | which assets |
| 22:11.51 | goomba_ | dat ass dem titties? |
| 22:11.55 | Vulfe | what assets |
| 22:11.58 | Vulfe | what are assets anyway |
| 22:12.14 | goomba_ | shit that people make for people to use in ge |
| 22:12.15 | Xaragoth | everything you add to your game/map |
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| 22:12.25 | Xaragoth | sound assets, mesh assets, texture assets |
| 22:12.34 | SweetZombieJesus | lolol |
| 22:12.34 | Xaragoth | its basically everything you have |
| 22:12.37 | SweetZombieJesus | theres an idra simulator |
| 22:12.38 | Xaragoth | even programming assets |
| 22:12.39 | SweetZombieJesus | that was my idea!! |
| 22:12.50 | goomba_ | what does said simulator do |
| 22:12.56 | goomba_ | a bot that rages? |
| 22:13.01 | SweetZombieJesus | makes idra ragequit |
| 22:13.04 | SweetZombieJesus | if you arent careful |
| 22:13.32 | SweetZombieJesus | lol |
| 22:13.41 | SweetZombieJesus | 'Apologize for playing terran, now!' |
| 22:13.43 | Kowz | 2 spots for Island D |
| 22:21.56 | goomba_ | any diamond wanna 2v2 |
| 22:22.36 | Helral | damn I'm spades |
| 22:22.39 | Helral | XD |
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| 22:22.56 | Klonkq | i found a replenish spider mines abilit |
| 22:22.58 | Klonkq | effect |
| 22:23.08 | Klonkq | but i dont really have any clue how its supposed to work |
| 22:23.08 | goomba_ | armory upg in campaign |
| 22:23.18 | goomba_ | 25 mineral to rebuild in the field |
| 22:23.28 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: We completely broke your map. |
| 22:23.37 | Fromethius | what happened |
| 22:23.38 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: Three people got assigned as titans |
| 22:23.53 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: And I got 2 mineral when I was picking my Titan |
| 22:24.07 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: Plus two timer windows for "free gold". |
| 22:24.50 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: I'm guessing lag + spamming "Titan" from different people caused it? |
| 22:25.04 | Fromethius | probably |
| 22:25.08 | Fromethius | amrack handles all the triggers |
| 22:25.11 | Fromethius | i do the data editing |
| 22:25.13 | Fromethius | he's looking at it now |
| 22:25.31 | goomba_ | i handle all the tooltips |
| 22:25.34 | dukka | yea it sounds like the dialog got triggered too many times |
| 22:25.38 | dukka | due to lag |
| 22:25.40 | dukka | most likely |
| 22:25.40 | Fromethius | is this happening every game? |
| 22:25.45 | Fromethius | or can you reproduce it |
| 22:25.55 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: I dunno, this is the first time it's happened, but I've never played without you ;-) |
| 22:26.04 | Fromethius | i'm good luck charm! |
| 22:26.12 | jorgenpt | I haven't been trying to click Titan myself |
| 22:26.16 | jorgenpt | And I gave up on playing it after this |
| 22:26.18 | RaydenUni | anyone here knowledgeable with items? |
| 22:26.21 | jorgenpt | Since it takes forever to get a lobby :( |
| 22:26.32 | Fromethius | yeah this popularity system.. ugh |
| 22:26.35 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: You might have luck with using Critical Section |
| 22:26.40 | Helral | RaydenUni: no but ask anyway :P |
| 22:26.45 | jorgenpt | s/You/Amrack/ |
| 22:26.45 | RaydenUni | i set up an item shop that works |
| 22:26.50 | Fromethius | what's critical section? |
| 22:26.51 | RaydenUni | i set up my heroes to accept the items, it works |
| 22:27.01 | RaydenUni | sometimes when i buy items they drop on the ground instead of going on the hero |
| 22:27.03 | RaydenUni | any ideas why? |
| 22:27.04 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: Ensures only one thread runs the code at a time |
| 22:27.07 | RaydenUni | the hero can still pick them up |
| 22:27.19 | Helral | RaydenUni: hmmm too far away? |
| 22:27.27 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: Other option would be to maybe have the trigger use the Action Queue to run the Action that happens when the button is pressed? |
| 22:27.29 | Zanam | holy jesus! i just tested my map, my arena spawned, the start locations were correctly placed, and then.... the end-game blizz credits started to roll?! |
| 22:27.30 | RaydenUni | could be |
| 22:27.36 | Fromethius | well |
| 22:27.37 | jorgenpt | I'm guessing that might ensure linear execution of all the clicks. |
| 22:27.38 | RaydenUni | is there a different range for putting the item on the hero than buying it? |
| 22:27.46 | Helral | could be. |
| 22:28.02 | Helral | think there's a buy range on the ability, and a interact ability range |
| 22:28.06 | Helral | so 2 different values. |
| 22:28.07 | Fromethius | there's already an if statement that prevents someone from clicking titan if there already is one |
| 22:28.18 | Fromethius | we'll try using critical selection i suppose |
| 22:28.22 | RaydenUni | i'll look |
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| 22:30.42 | RaydenUni | Helral, this would be the ShopBuy ability's Stats - Range and the Shop Share's Stats - Range? |
| 22:30.44 | RaydenUni | both are the same |
| 22:30.55 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: I''m guessing the check happens on two players simultaneously |
| 22:31.06 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: Then afterwards it sets it to "titan picked" |
| 22:31.12 | jorgenpt | but hard to say without looking at the triggers |
| 22:31.18 | Fromethius | yeah |
| 22:31.43 | dukka | the problem is that with the lag the trigger didn't execute far enough to lock the titan selection |
| 22:32.13 | dukka | therefore more than one player got it and then promptly the rest of the triggers exploded more or less |
| 22:32.49 | rooj | fromethius |
| 22:32.57 | Fromethius | hi |
| 22:32.59 | rooj | when i joined another map, your resource icons were still there :P |
| 22:33.05 | RaydenUni | Helral, i bought 3 items, all went on my hero, then a bought a 4th in that category and it was full, so it went on the ground, then i bought an item of a different category and it also went on the ground |
| 22:33.06 | dukka | it is a sign |
| 22:33.07 | Fromethius | yeah they like to stick around |
| 22:33.08 | RaydenUni | so it's not a range issue |
| 22:33.09 | rooj | neat map btw |
| 22:33.10 | dukka | play island def 24/7 |
| 22:33.37 | rooj | i am happy, i got a lot done on my map today |
| 22:33.43 | RaydenUni | ok, how do i turn off "our allies are being attacked" messages from occuring? |
| 22:34.36 | Wartex | I would like to know this as well |
| 22:34.47 | RaydenUni | allied units are always going to be attacked in my map |
| 22:34.53 | HR_ | sound actor maybe? |
| 22:34.54 | RaydenUni | i don't need the message every 5 seconds |
| 22:35.40 | HR_ | i would try under actor sound events |
| 22:36.02 | Wartex | I think I found it |
| 22:36.03 | RaydenUni | Mute channel |
| 22:36.06 | RaydenUni | Alert channel maybe |
| 22:36.07 | Wartex | under Alerts in the data editor |
| 22:36.18 | RaydenUni | oh, i was just going to do it with a trigger |
| 22:36.24 | HR_ | i need to change the color of a missile from a weapon... im trying under the actor for the missile with an event, its not working |
| 22:36.35 | Wartex | AttackUnitAlly_*Race* |
| 22:36.55 | pinzu | hmm, |
| 22:37.06 | pinzu | could someone help me figure out a way |
| 22:37.10 | pinzu | http://pastebin.com/EjDHCnwD |
| 22:37.17 | RaydenUni | i'm testing muting the alert channel |
| 22:37.26 | pinzu | read that and say if you want to help |
| 22:38.03 | Wartex | RaydenUni, just go into AttackUnitAlly_Terr and under the Display field, uncheck Display to Self and Other |
| 22:38.28 | RaydenUni | i got the sound to go away |
| 22:38.31 | RaydenUni | but it still sends alerts |
| 22:38.36 | RaydenUni | so i queue up this huge list of alerts |
| 22:39.04 | RaydenUni | it seems that once my hero tries to buy an item that doesn't fit in his pack, it goes on the ground |
| 22:39.12 | RaydenUni | once an item goes on the ground, all future ones go on the ground |
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| 22:41.22 | RaydenUni | you can mute the alert channel and hide the alert panel |
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| 22:42.44 | HR_ | its looks like i tinted it right, maybe its not working because im using a particle effect as the missile |
| 22:42.51 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 22:42.57 | RaydenUni | some stuff didn't seem to tint for me |
| 22:43.35 | RaydenUni | how do i set the camera height? i found it before, but i can't seem to find it now |
| 22:43.49 | HR_ | apply camera property? |
| 22:43.52 | RaydenUni | oh nm |
| 22:43.53 | HR_ | or in data? |
| 22:43.53 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 22:43.58 | RaydenUni | trigger is fine |
| 22:44.11 | wOlfLinG | I hate bugs -.- |
| 22:44.18 | RaydenUni | what's the difference between distance and height offset? |
| 22:44.28 | wOlfLinG | I have no idea whats wrong with my triggers right now :/ |
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| 22:45.01 | wOlfLinG | Half the time it shows the array above, half the time the array below, sometimes it works, and it changes it whenever i change the filter |
| 22:45.28 | HR_ | distance is fromt target |
| 22:45.32 | pinzu | could somepne help me with this: http://pastebin.com/cFgMzzhu |
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| 22:45.44 | HR_ | height is up from target |
| 22:45.56 | Impaler | Anyone know how to make a transport unit function like a bunker, aka units fire from it? |
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| 22:46.26 | iMisu_ | Okay |
| 22:46.32 | iMisu_ | Finally I have IRC Working on my phone |
| 22:46.34 | Impaler | I'm doing a redesign of Helion got marines to 'ride' in it and need them to fire |
| 22:46.39 | RaydenUni | there's no way to apply a camera thing to all players/ |
| 22:46.42 | RaydenUni | i have to loop? |
| 22:46.50 | ZarafFaraz_ | what kind of phone, iMisu? |
| 22:46.55 | iMisu_ | Evo4G |
| 22:47.02 | iMisu_ | Is sixen here at the momment? |
| 22:47.05 | ZarafFaraz_ | can IRC work on iPhones? |
| 22:47.24 | pinzu | anyone? ;o |
| 22:47.32 | iMisu_ | Are all of you aware that I have bought Ventrilo server for SC2Mapster? |
| 22:47.40 | wOlfLinG | yup |
| 22:47.47 | ZarafFaraz_ | how much was it? |
| 22:47.52 | wOlfLinG | Therefor, i need a mic because of you >:( |
| 22:48.06 | iMisu_ | Ok just wanted to make sure. , You dont need a mic for Ventrilo |
| 22:48.09 | pinzu | Im to insecure to use a mic, true story ;) |
| 22:48.14 | iMisu_ | You can chat like IRC There too! |
| 22:48.20 | wOlfLinG | meh |
| 22:48.25 | wOlfLinG | Still need one ^^ |
| 22:48.27 | ZarafFaraz | iMisu, how much was the ventrilo server? |
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| 22:48.34 | Impaler | Anyone? know how bunkers allow units to fire? |
| 22:48.41 | pinzu | less then his pair of shoes |
| 22:48.41 | iMisu_ | It was almost 250 $ |
| 22:48.46 | pinzu | stop asking so many questions ;) |
| 22:48.47 | iMisu_ | Her * |
| 22:48.53 | ZarafFaraz | can it expire or is it permanent? |
| 22:48.59 | wOlfLinG | And in pound sterling that is what exactly? |
| 22:49.00 | HR_ | i looked in the transport ability |
| 22:49.05 | iMisu_ | Taz bought it for 4 years. |
| 22:49.08 | RaydenUni | more item questions, some items i've made cannot be clicked or selected. why? |
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| 22:49.28 | RaydenUni | when they are on the ground |
| 22:49.29 | RaydenUni | as units |
| 22:50.05 | iMisu_ | On my phone, I cant see the list of names on the right. Is it alot or a little? |
| 22:50.06 | pinzu | but seriously could someone help me improve this "random generator" ? |
| 22:50.06 | pinzu | http://pastebin.com/cFgMzzhu |
| 22:50.18 | RaydenUni | uncommandable? |
| 22:50.23 | HR_ | if you do get them to fire from transport you might need to make it so they can fire while moving too |
| 22:50.33 | pinzu | there is no title for the list of names |
| 22:50.35 | azala | anyone interested in a d map test? most of my friends are offline :/ |
| 22:50.52 | ZarafFaraz_ | NA or EU? |
| 22:50.56 | azala | na |
| 22:51.09 | ZarafFaraz_ | ok, add me, Zaraf 527, and I just gotta restart my computer |
| 22:51.15 | azala | ok cool |
| 22:51.23 | Impaler | yes I do want fire-while-moving |
| 22:51.27 | HR_ | Weapon - Allowed MovementMoving.... Weapon - Optionsuncheck last 2 |
| 22:52.07 | Impaler | well I want the unit inside the transport to fire regardless of transport movement |
| 22:52.50 | Trager|546|US | Hey Fromethius I want my trigger |
| 22:53.06 | Fromethius | dukka you're needed on irc |
| 22:53.08 | lapin_sc | pinzu what are you trying to do |
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| 22:55.12 | Zanam | *sigh* I hate making AI's |
| 22:55.31 | Trager|546|US | anyone for zonecontrol? |
| 22:55.32 | RedWraith | apparently |
| 22:55.34 | RedWraith | the editor |
| 22:55.37 | HR_ | maybe it should be freeze beam instead of frost missile |
| 22:55.37 | RedWraith | has spellcheck |
| 22:55.38 | RedWraith | le gasp |
| 22:55.40 | Trager|546|US | need moar testers |
| 22:55.43 | RedWraith | it's in the console commands |
| 22:55.44 | RedWraith | :O |
| 22:55.50 | HR_ | i know theres some blue beams |
| 22:57.10 | ZarafFaraz | azala, I'm coming online now |
| 22:59.14 | Trager|546|US | I can't add facebook friends |
| 22:59.17 | Trager|546|US | so annoying |
| 23:00.18 | iMisu_ | You have no idea of annoying. |
| 23:00.25 | Fromethius | jorgenpt: just published a new version that hopefully fixes that issue (did some more balancing and fixing too) |
| 23:00.50 | jorgenpt | Fromethius: Cool :-) |
| 23:01.07 | jorgenpt | Kowz: See that? Hopefully the bug we encountered with Island Defense should be fixed. |
| 23:01.07 | Trager|546|US | orly? |
| 23:03.29 | goomba_ | urrggghhh all in on brutal sucks |
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| 23:15.45 | Xackery | using subversion on a component based mod is bleh |
| 23:15.56 | jorgenpt | Using Git with a component based map is wee! |
| 23:16.04 | jorgenpt | Can you make it so a unit cannot be a selected in a multi-unit selection? |
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| 23:16.40 | RaydenUni | what's wrong with subversion and components? |
| 23:17.26 | jorgenpt | RaydenUni: Saving in GE does mv Map.SC2Map Map.SC2Map.old; before saving to a new dir. :-) |
| 23:17.30 | jorgenpt | So it deletes your .svn dirs. |
| 23:17.45 | RaydenUni | haha |
| 23:19.41 | wOlfLinG | So could someone help me with my bug? |
| 23:19.41 | Xackery | it doesn't delete your svn dirs |
| 23:19.43 | Xackery | it just errors out |
| 23:19.46 | ekcolnovkol | yay |
| 23:19.51 | ekcolnovkol | one more item then done |
| 23:20.02 | wOlfLinG | Because it won't be good to pastebin it, i've uploaded the library. http://www.filefront.com/17232510/Quest Log (Alpha, localised).SC2Lib |
| 23:20.05 | wOlfLinG | Please help |
| 23:20.10 | wOlfLinG | No idea whats wrong :/ |
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| 23:20.52 | TheQuacKanator | RAWRAWRAWRWAR |
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| 23:21.46 | wOlfLinG | Anyone? :/ |
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| 23:21.58 | Tordecybombo | How do you turn off resource sharing? |
| 23:22.05 | nitroball | wOlfLinG |
| 23:22.09 | nitroball | sup? |
| 23:22.09 | Tordecybombo | when an ally leaves, resources are given to allies |
| 23:22.15 | Tordecybombo | how do I prevent that |
| 23:23.54 | ProzaicMuze | Gah |
| 23:23.58 | ProzaicMuze | I missed OneTwo :( |
| 23:24.01 | Vail | ah |
| 23:24.06 | Vail | :C |
| 23:24.26 | ProzaicMuze | He probably got on looking for me specifically Xp |
| 23:24.31 | ProzaicMuze | I owes him some cool goodies |
| 23:25.01 | Xackery | :O |
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| 23:26.00 | Xackery | there. svn works proper now. |
| 23:26.14 | RedWraith | Has anyone else tried to use catalogs for actors? |
| 23:26.35 | RedWraith | I get errors for even trying to change sounds or events. Most frustrating. I'm not sure if it's actually allowed. |
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| 23:33.01 | goomba_ | ok scratch that |
| 23:33.05 | goomba_ | all in on brutal isnt bad at all |
| 23:33.05 | goomba_ | lol |
| 23:33.16 | goomba_ | if ye do it right |
| 23:33.38 | wOlfLinG | Ok, my problem is that when i delete a quest it messes up everything below it on the list and whenever i change the filter options |
| 23:33.50 | wOlfLinG | And i've been trying for hours to fix it :( |
| 23:37.33 | wOlfLinG | :/ No help? Thats bad |
| 23:37.43 | PapaRoach | quiet today |
| 23:37.52 | Tofu | raid night |
| 23:37.56 | Vail | i need ...... an idea |
| 23:38.03 | PapaRoach | people still play wow? |
| 23:38.07 | wOlfLinG | Fix mah library? :P |
| 23:38.07 | rooj | raid night, rofl |
| 23:38.33 | Vail | i dont know triggers so sorry |
| 23:38.49 | Tofu | I didnt know there were quests here |
| 23:38.54 | Tofu | so Im prolly not all that usefull |
| 23:39.11 | PapaRoach | im sorry, ima let you finish, but anyone who still plays wow needs to be interupted by kanye west |
| 23:39.38 | Impaler | Ok I have managed to get units to fire from the Hellion |
| 23:39.49 | PapaRoach | any why have you done that? |
| 23:39.50 | Impaler | I used an Attack Redirect ability |
| 23:40.04 | Tofu | thats how ze bunkers do it |
| 23:40.29 | Impaler | but I now have an AI issue, the Hellion now laks an attack of its own and will not stop to allow the passengers to fire |
| 23:40.48 | Tofu | theres a bunker with a gun onna top |
| 23:40.48 | Impaler | I;ve decided fire while moving is way too much of a kiting exploit |
| 23:41.00 | Tofu | ah |
| 23:41.15 | Impaler | so I just want it to stop when its in rage and let the passengers fire |
| 23:41.24 | Tofu | give it a dummy attack? |
| 23:41.30 | Tofu | so it stops to dummy attak |
| 23:41.34 | Tofu | and the passengers get to fire |
| 23:41.52 | Impaler | that could work but what about stopping at optimum range? |
| 23:41.58 | RaydenUni | the actor sets the model and the icon right? |
| 23:42.03 | Vail | right |
| 23:42.06 | Tofu | change the range of the dummy attack? |
| 23:42.16 | Impaler | passengers could be all kinds of various infantry with differnt weapon ranges |
| 23:42.21 | RaydenUni | i copied the actor from an item actor that works but this one doesn't |
| 23:42.22 | RaydenUni | grr |
| 23:42.39 | Tofu | Im just snowballing here |
| 23:42.45 | Tofu | but multiple dummy attacks |
| 23:42.55 | Tofu | using different ones per unit in |
| 23:42.59 | Tofu | kinda like a |
| 23:43.03 | Tofu | pick the closest |
| 23:43.03 | Impaler | humm intersting |
| 23:43.20 | Tofu | or someone can just point out how to do it without faking it |
| 23:43.24 | Tofu | eithers good |
| 23:43.26 | Vail | wait did you make and IFV like unit from the Red Alert games? |
| 23:43.50 | Impaler | not exactly, its a redesign of Hellion |
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| 23:44.01 | vxcriss | ello folks |
| 23:44.12 | PapaRoach | IFV was sick in RA2 |
| 23:44.13 | Impaler | carries 2 marines that shoot out of it as if it was a bunker |
| 23:44.23 | vxcriss | nice idea |
| 23:44.27 | azala | magnade, you there? remaking. |
| 23:44.49 | Vail | if there were a diffrent model other than the medivac i would make bunkerships |
| 23:44.59 | Impaler | I did it cause I wanted to bring back vultures but that would be pointless with the Hellion as a defacto vulture replacement |
| 23:45.17 | Tofu | use attachment points and just stand them on top of the battlecruiser |
| 23:45.18 | Tofu | ! |
| 23:45.23 | Impaler | with a different Hellion the vulture would still have some use |
| 23:45.31 | RaydenUni | why does this unit not have a model? |
| 23:46.16 | Impaler | I'd also been thinking of making a 'refit' ability on Hellion, it would lose it's new unit carrying ability and gain one or more weapons |
| 23:46.52 | Impaler | Refit would take `10 seconds inwhich the Hellion is defenseless (no somthing you can do in battle) |
| 23:47.16 | Vail | would it evacuate or kill passangers? |
| 23:47.32 | Impaler | several options for each refit, small resource expended each time its changed but you can change an unlimited number of times |
| 23:47.33 | Tofu | rayden, are you asking a simple "how do attach a model to an actor" question? or is there more to it? |
| 23:48.03 | Impaler | Refit would require Hellion to be unloaded |
| 23:48.44 | Impaler | each refit would be a research option |
| 23:49.05 | Impaler | think of the things they put on Humvees now |
| 23:50.28 | RedWraith | so has no one looked into catalogs? I can't find any info on it besides a post from May. |
| 23:50.38 | RedWraith | and the wiki entry |
| 23:52.19 | RaydenUni | if i copy an actor, what do i need to change to make its model show up? |
| 23:52.31 | Tordecybombo | weirdos |
| 23:53.06 | Tordecybombo | so how do I turn off resource sharing |
| 23:53.19 | RedWraith | RaydenUni, quite a lot actually. It's very poorly made. |
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| 23:53.36 | RaydenUni | maybe i should just make a new one |
| 23:53.44 | RedWraith | Well |
| 23:53.46 | RedWraith | you could always |
| 23:53.47 | RaydenUni | i thought i copy/pasted all these old ones, maybe not |
| 23:54.05 | RedWraith | change the unitName to the original, and then change the name in the first 5 events to your new unit's name |
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| 23:55.06 | Trager|546|US | PapaRoach: the range upgrade now costs 800 |
| 23:55.26 | PapaRoach | lol did you test it out at 400 and it still way op? |
| 23:55.26 | RaydenUni | you can't copy/paste events? |
| 23:55.26 | Impaler | Thx that dummy attack worked grat |
| 23:55.27 | RaydenUni | boo |
| 23:55.33 | wOlfLinG | Can you change variables in records or not? |
| 23:55.37 | Trager|546|US | I can't nerf it enough |
| 23:55.39 | Trager|546|US | yea I did |
| 23:55.46 | Impaler | I will need to do some more work at changing the range based on units loaded |
| 23:55.49 | PapaRoach | =P |
| 23:55.57 | Impaler | but its working in principle |
| 23:56.28 | RedWraith | w0lfLinG, I believe so, yes. |
| 23:56.45 | Trager|546|US | I might just end up removing it |
| 23:57.21 | Vail | what upgrade is this that is OP at a cost of 800? |
| 23:58.08 | Trager|546|US | range |
| 23:58.27 | Trager|546|US | it's absurd |
| 23:58.43 | Vail | what range? |
| 23:59.22 | PapaRoach | marine fire range |
| 23:59.30 | Vail | ah |
| 23:59.37 | PapaRoach | we had it at 200 first and my rines couldnt even get to his lol |
