| 00:00.05 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 00:00.13 | wOlfLinG | And by edited i mean, changed actor and mineral amount |
| 00:00.18 | RodOfNOD | hmm |
| 00:00.21 | RodOfNOD | never done that |
| 00:00.23 | SweetZombieJesus | wOlfLinG pretty nice leaderboard |
| 00:00.33 | wOlfLinG | :) |
| 00:00.39 | SweetZombieJesus | i turned my lib into a real library too now |
| 00:00.39 | wOlfLinG | Took me a while to make |
| 00:00.42 | RodOfNOD | tell me what country this band is from and ill take a peek wOlfLinG |
| 00:00.43 | SweetZombieJesus | really annoying that you cant localize |
| 00:00.48 | RodOfNOD | and no googling |
| 00:00.54 | SweetZombieJesus | and any hint text you make gets removed ... |
| 00:00.57 | SweetZombieJesus | so stupid |
| 00:01.13 | wOlfLinG | SweetZombieJesus: You can if you localise the map |
| 00:01.16 | wOlfLinG | And then export |
| 00:01.27 | wOlfLinG | Also, it's the grammer text that get's removed :/ |
| 00:01.35 | SweetZombieJesus | grammer text too |
| 00:01.39 | RodOfNOD | THINGS GO BETTER WITH ROCK! |
| 00:01.44 | wOlfLinG | So what band is it Mr. GDI? |
| 00:01.48 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:01.50 | RodOfNOD | autograph |
| 00:02.03 | rrowland | "Launch Offset" on my launch missile doesn't do anything |
| 00:02.07 | rrowland | It keeps firing from the feet |
| 00:02.08 | RodOfNOD | they are a 2 or 3 hit band |
| 00:02.17 | wOlfLinG | I'm gonna take a guess and say... Sweden? |
| 00:02.20 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 00:02.24 | wOlfLinG | Honestly have no idea xD |
| 00:02.28 | RodOfNOD | no this is the only band i know from this country |
| 00:02.32 | RodOfNOD | at least 80s rock |
| 00:02.42 | wOlfLinG | ah. In that case belgium? |
| 00:02.49 | wOlfLinG | Cause they are tiny O_o |
| 00:02.58 | waterfoul | please could someone help me fix my chain lightning? (effect is delayed and lightning doesn't chain) http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/power-towers/files/3-version-0-003/ |
| 00:03.29 | wOlfLinG | ok, i'll assume it isn't belgium -.- |
| 00:03.32 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:03.37 | RodOfNOD | i just looked it up and i was wrong |
| 00:03.44 | RodOfNOD | i was dinking about the wrong band |
| 00:03.49 | wOlfLinG | So i'll just say america then. Even though theres loads of bands from there |
| 00:03.55 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 00:04.01 | wOlfLinG | O_o |
| 00:04.09 | wOlfLinG | didn't even use google ^^ |
| 00:04.19 | Unrea1 | W0lfLinG is there another model or actor? |
| 00:04.24 | Unrea1 | That didnt change it either |
| 00:04.50 | wOlfLinG | probably |
| 00:04.53 | wOlfLinG | Need to have a look |
| 00:05.10 | RodOfNOD | lol hoily cow |
| 00:05.15 | RodOfNOD | i was so wrong about this band |
| 00:05.25 | RodOfNOD | someone told me a long time ago missinfo |
| 00:05.33 | RodOfNOD | and i just kept on pluging away at it |
| 00:05.46 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.53 | Unrea1 | What band? |
| 00:05.56 | RodOfNOD | and there IS a russian band called Autograph |
| 00:05.59 | RodOfNOD | but its not this band |
| 00:06.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster AsaPhelps (~asaphelps@pool-141-154-125-112.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 00:06.21 | RodOfNOD | for 20 years ive had this band labeled wrong lol |
| 00:06.35 | Unrea1 | What kind of music do you listen to? |
| 00:06.57 | wOlfLinG | Ok, Unrea1: Go into the mineral field's actor events |
| 00:07.00 | RodOfNOD | anything but opera and rap and hardcore country |
| 00:07.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster MonkH (~a@94-195-209-10.zone9.bethere.co.uk) |
| 00:07.12 | wOlfLinG | And remove everything that has the term 'Shader high' etc |
| 00:07.17 | Unrea1 | Going hold up |
| 00:07.20 | Unrea1 | Same here Rod |
| 00:07.24 | wOlfLinG | Option Shader Extreme etc |
| 00:07.32 | Unrea1 | K wolf |
| 00:07.33 | RodOfNOD | then u must be old like me |
| 00:07.40 | wOlfLinG | They have a differant model per shader option |
| 00:07.43 | rulssi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5tIC6jbffo <3 |
| 00:08.21 | vjeux | there are really people that like trans? :p |
| 00:08.22 | Unrea1 | Should i just straight delete them |
| 00:08.24 | RodOfNOD | lol interesting video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2i1mQahs2c |
| 00:08.26 | Unrea1 | Or leave them |
| 00:08.52 | rulssi | vjeux: yup :P |
| 00:08.54 | AsaPhelps | ah my ears |
| 00:08.57 | wOlfLinG | delete everything that has the term 'Option Shader something' in it |
| 00:09.13 | wOlfLinG | Completly. Not just the term, the whole thing |
| 00:09.18 | Unrea1 | kk |
| 00:09.23 | Unrea1 | Btw |
| 00:09.25 | RodOfNOD | i only like techno if im dancing and drunk rulssi |
| 00:09.31 | Unrea1 | Have you guys seen the double raibow video? |
| 00:09.40 | AsaPhelps | yes |
| 00:09.44 | rulssi | RodOfNOD: yeah that works also |
| 00:09.45 | Unrea1 | College Humor made a video on it |
| 00:09.46 | Unrea1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZH0DGHJ3c |
| 00:09.53 | Unrea1 | Best video ive seen in a while lol |
| 00:09.55 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyl5DlrsU90 - favorite all time song to dance to |
| 00:09.57 | waterfoul | please could someone help me fix my chain lightning? (effect is delayed and lightning doesn't chain) http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/power-towers/files/3-version-0-003/ |
| 00:10.30 | rulssi | you are making power towers? :O |
| 00:10.32 | rulssi | awesome |
| 00:10.32 | AsaPhelps | do you use triggers or just the data editor? |
| 00:10.41 | waterfoul | just data |
| 00:10.59 | waterfoul | at least for the lightning |
| 00:11.24 | rulssi | RodOfNOD: yeah that is awesome song indeed |
| 00:11.36 | RodOfNOD | i dont get that video at all Unrea1 |
| 00:11.47 | Unrea1 | Did you watch the double rainbow guy original? |
| 00:11.54 | RodOfNOD | nope |
| 00:12.00 | Unrea1 | Thats why >.> lol |
| 00:12.24 | RodOfNOD | in case ur young and dont know that this was a remake heres the original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJv5qLsLYoo&feature=related |
| 00:12.59 | RodOfNOD | how come all the new wave guys were gay lol |
| 00:13.13 | AsaPhelps | want to come to my room and study anatomy? |
| 00:13.16 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:13.22 | RodOfNOD | only if ur a gal :> |
| 00:13.24 | P_R_Deltoid | Okay |
| 00:13.27 | vxcriss | hey how do I get an array size? |
| 00:13.29 | P_R_Deltoid | any of you good with leaderboards? |
| 00:13.32 | Unrea1 | Lol |
| 00:13.32 | P_R_Deltoid | or... profecient? |
| 00:13.40 | RodOfNOD | wolf is the king |
| 00:14.18 | AsaPhelps | anyone want to help me test my map? trying to make something work but I suck so I need to see if it works or not |
| 00:14.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (~zoxc@ti0128a340-dhcp0032.bb.online.no) |
| 00:14.25 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:14.32 | P_R_Deltoid | seriously though |
| 00:14.36 | RodOfNOD | what do mean vxcriss? |
| 00:14.40 | P_R_Deltoid | do you have to update leaderboard text manually |
| 00:14.41 | wOlfLinG | Rod, that last vid is so much better than the remake O_o |
| 00:14.46 | P_R_Deltoid | or is there a function to refresh it |
| 00:14.46 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:14.48 | P_R_Deltoid | that I can't find... |
| 00:14.51 | rulssi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXFHf8xZ1CA i wish Madonna was still like this :/ |
| 00:14.54 | wOlfLinG | Even with the wierd hair |
| 00:14.59 | AsaPhelps | ~seen reactorex |
| 00:15.01 | purl | reactorex is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 3h 19m 39s, last said: 'Something to that effect. :P'. |
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| 00:15.06 | P_R_Deltoid | All the Dead or ALive videos are pretty bad |
| 00:15.07 | P_R_Deltoid | or... |
| 00:15.07 | RodOfNOD | i heard some 9 year old kid sing the words to that song wOlfLinG |
| 00:15.07 | P_R_Deltoid | the same |
| 00:15.11 | P_R_Deltoid | he just turns more and more into a girl |
| 00:15.14 | vxcriss | I have an array with some integers in it and I want to get the size of the array |
| 00:15.20 | RodOfNOD | i ws like do u even know what ur saying |
| 00:15.24 | wOlfLinG | To which one? the origanal or remake? |
| 00:15.28 | RodOfNOD | why dont u keep track of it |
| 00:15.29 | RodOfNOD | the remake |
| 00:15.33 | AsaPhelps | you know whats a good song |
| 00:15.34 | AsaPhelps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHVhwcOg6y8 |
| 00:15.44 | AsaPhelps | 158 million can't be wrong! |
| 00:15.45 | vxcriss | which is pretty much the size that you define when you create the variable array |
| 00:15.52 | RodOfNOD | OMG asa |
| 00:15.56 | rulssi | ffs |
| 00:15.58 | RodOfNOD | u almost had me listen to that |
| 00:16.07 | rulssi | i closed it as soon as i saw the title |
| 00:16.08 | RodOfNOD | i saw satans name so i closed it quickly |
| 00:16.18 | P_R_Deltoid | I love Pete Burns |
| 00:16.18 | P_R_Deltoid | from |
| 00:16.20 | P_R_Deltoid | DoA |
| 00:16.21 | RodOfNOD | fortunately i was already streaming tik tok |
| 00:16.24 | wOlfLinG | I must say, the people in the original have much better hair than flo-rider :/ |
| 00:16.26 | AsaPhelps | i've never heard a song from him and I intend to keep it that way |
| 00:16.27 | Unrea1 | 2.8 Million Cant be wrong http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAHDtzeC_AU |
| 00:16.28 | P_R_Deltoid | I love how he has had a wife for like 30 years |
| 00:16.32 | RodOfNOD | he was in the wedding singer |
| 00:16.38 | P_R_Deltoid | even when he gets plastic surgery to look more like a woman |
| 00:16.41 | RodOfNOD | lol asa exactly |
| 00:16.45 | Chainclaw | what image formats do the map previews support? |
| 00:16.59 | AsaPhelps | rod test my map :( trying to make this validator work |
| 00:17.00 | Chainclaw | JPG and PNG didn't seem to work right, TGA works, but it doesn't compress well so the file is ginormous |
| 00:17.00 | RodOfNOD | hes not gay? |
| 00:17.03 | RodOfNOD | are u sure? |
| 00:17.10 | AsaPhelps | jpg works I think |
| 00:17.29 | Chainclaw | it doesn't show a preview in the editor if I use JPG |
| 00:17.31 | RodOfNOD | ok no more prepubessent boy links |
| 00:17.58 | Unrea1 | Hahaha |
| 00:17.59 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M11SvDtPBhA&feature=related - if u want to confuse me then give me links like this |
| 00:18.06 | wOlfLinG | Chainclaw, .dds is the best |
| 00:18.09 | Chainclaw | I can't select JPGs in the Archive Browser |
| 00:18.10 | Unrea1 | Rich black men targeting young boys |
| 00:18.13 | AsaPhelps | actually I do use a tga myself |
| 00:18.19 | waterfoul | please could someone help me fix my chain lightning? (effect is delayed and lightning doesn't chain) http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/power-towers/files/3-version-0-003/ |
| 00:18.20 | vjeux | black miley! |
| 00:18.26 | Unrea1 | Lol... |
| 00:18.32 | Chainclaw | GIMP doesn't save DDS |
| 00:18.33 | AsaPhelps | water is that with the data editor? |
| 00:18.33 | RodOfNOD | i heard shes gonna get a boob job at 18 |
| 00:18.34 | wOlfLinG | Rod, do NOT EVER link to a miley cyrus vid again! |
| 00:18.38 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:18.41 | RodOfNOD | she rocks |
| 00:18.43 | waterfoul | yea |
| 00:18.47 | waterfoul | asa: yea |
| 00:18.54 | Unrea1 | You know whats funny the link came up as purple for me |
| 00:18.58 | Unrea1 | So i watched it before xD |
| 00:19.01 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:19.04 | RodOfNOD | LOL |
| 00:19.06 | AsaPhelps | did you see proziacmule's beam tutorial? might help you out |
| 00:19.08 | wOlfLinG | Chainclaw, you need a plugin for gimp to save as dds |
| 00:19.21 | Eiviyn | So, my map has 12 unit weapons and about 36 items total as of right now |
| 00:19.23 | RodOfNOD | waterfoul: if you post it once and we dont answer its cuz we dont know |
| 00:19.27 | AsaPhelps | nice eiv |
| 00:19.30 | Eiviyn | To make those 36 items |
| 00:19.32 | RodOfNOD | thats the kind of thing ProzaicMuze would know |
| 00:19.38 | Eiviyn | I've had to make about 300 data entries |
| 00:19.41 | ProzaicMuze | hrm? |
| 00:19.50 | RodOfNOD | lol and he pops up his evil head |
| 00:20.03 | AsaPhelps | Anyone on US want to help me test something in my map? |
| 00:20.07 | Eiviyn | 77 actors, 49 behaviours, 59 buttons etc |
| 00:20.09 | RodOfNOD | wacks ProzaicMuze with a HUGE salami! |
| 00:20.20 | Eiviyn | Seems excessive to make such a small number of items |
| 00:20.26 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:20.33 | RodOfNOD | did u make them in xml |
| 00:20.34 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 00:20.38 | waterfoul | its actually based on that tutorial |
| 00:20.51 | RodOfNOD | well ask ProzaicMuze he is the god of data |
| 00:21.08 | RodOfNOD | if u look it up on wikipedia it actually says ProzaicMuze - god of data |
| 00:21.14 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 00:21.24 | waterfoul | prozac you willing to take a look? |
| 00:21.38 | ProzaicMuze | lol, Rod. . . it ACTUALLY says. . . |
| 00:21.41 | ProzaicMuze | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=ProzaicMuze&go=Go |
| 00:21.44 | ProzaicMuze | I think you'll laugh ;) |
| 00:21.44 | AsaPhelps | Prozaic is able to look at everything at the same time |
| 00:21.51 | RodOfNOD | OMG |
| 00:21.53 | ProzaicMuze | What's yeh problem Water? |
| 00:21.56 | RodOfNOD | ProzaicMuze: that is so fucking hilarious |
| 00:22.07 | AsaPhelps | lol |
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| 00:22.09 | RodOfNOD | we need onetwo to post that on his shit said on here |
| 00:22.09 | wOlfLinG | lol @ that link :D |
| 00:22.27 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiSB7G732Eg&feature=av2e - best KISS song ever |
| 00:22.29 | AsaPhelps | I have a wiki page |
| 00:22.33 | RodOfNOD | this song so rocks |
| 00:22.42 | RodOfNOD | my game does |
| 00:22.44 | RodOfNOD | idk if i do |
| 00:22.54 | waterfoul | Prozac: I tried to create chain lightning based on your tutorial but as an ability but it casts very delayed and doesn't chain http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/power-towers/files/3-version-0-003/ |
| 00:22.54 | Chainclaw | the Gimp DDS plug-in seems to be for 32 bit windows only |
| 00:23.21 | RodOfNOD | ProzaicMuze: u made a tutorial? surely u jest |
| 00:23.31 | RodOfNOD | get photoshop |
| 00:23.34 | RodOfNOD | pay the big bucks |
| 00:23.41 | RodOfNOD | think of all those adobe stock holders |
| 00:23.45 | RodOfNOD | and their children |
| 00:23.57 | AsaPhelps | so PM are you excited you'll be going to blizzcon and going to win $5000? |
| 00:24.11 | RodOfNOD | hes going to blizzcon? |
| 00:24.13 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 00:24.19 | AsaPhelps | Joke |
| 00:24.23 | rrowland | I'm already going to blizzcon |
| 00:24.23 | AsaPhelps | 0 <- rod's head |
| 00:24.26 | RodOfNOD | i need to go to blizzcon but i didnt know about it till too lae |
| 00:24.29 | rrowland | But I'm gonna be happy to win 5k |
| 00:24.37 | ProzaicMuze | You must have missed the heated discussion earlier about me and that contest lol |
| 00:24.40 | RodOfNOD | not sure what that means AsaPhelps |
| 00:24.41 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 00:24.44 | RaydenUni | why do you need to go? |
| 00:24.55 | wOlfLinG | Hope i win the contest ^^ |
| 00:24.56 | AsaPhelps | if I won that map I'd try to embed some porn in it somehow |
| 00:25.00 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 00:25.00 | ProzaicMuze | @Water - what is your Cast Start/Finish Time for the abilty? |
| 00:25.02 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:25.10 | RaydenUni | what contest? |
| 00:25.26 | Tehwildcard | [20:23] <RodOfNOD> get photoshop |
| 00:25.26 | Tehwildcard | [20:23] <RodOfNOD> pay the big bucks |
| 00:25.29 | rrowland | Launching missiles with the data editor is soooooooo badddddd |
| 00:25.32 | Tehwildcard | you can pay for photoshop? |
| 00:25.32 | Chainclaw | ok, figured it out. DDS plug-in doesn't work on 64 bit Gimp for sure |
| 00:25.34 | RodOfNOD | u know those maps that are on wc3 and sc that use the terrain to make pictures? |
| 00:25.38 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, missiles are ghey |
| 00:25.42 | ProzaicMuze | They randomly fly around |
| 00:25.48 | RodOfNOD | lol dude i have more money than god! |
| 00:25.55 | rrowland | It won't even fire from my weapon |
| 00:26.00 | rrowland | Such a simple ass task |
| 00:26.05 | waterfoul | ProzaicMuze: empty |
| 00:26.25 | ProzaicMuze | @Water - what's yoru current effect chain? Did you change it from mine at all? |
| 00:26.31 | Tehwildcard | rrowland |
| 00:26.33 | Tehwildcard | when I get back |
| 00:26.33 | waterfoul | nope |
| 00:26.33 | rrowland | As the day gets hotter and the editor refuses to do what I fucking tell it I want to punch my monitor more and more |
| 00:26.38 | Tehwildcard | I want a cyber session all night |
| 00:26.40 | waterfoul | except for the names |
| 00:26.51 | waterfoul | they are Chain Lightning instead of Beam |
| 00:27.04 | rrowland | "Launch Offset" doesn't even fucking work |
| 00:27.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster Fropper (~Fropper@p4FE0ABA9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:28.13 | RodOfNOD | ok so far you guys have like my tour of music - lets see if you like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1W6-ErrHls - HUGE hit when it came out and i know it looks gay but this song is really good |
| 00:28.35 | ProzaicMuze | But rrowland, if you punch yoru monitor, who am I gonna rape HoN with? |
| 00:29.01 | ProzaicMuze | Water, is this map you linked the chain? |
| 00:29.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster FrozenWolf (4a0e3988@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.14.57.136) |
| 00:29.07 | Unrea1 | Is HoN some asian guy on Starcraft? |
| 00:29.14 | ProzaicMuze | Yes |
| 00:29.15 | vjeux | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjSG6z_13-Q |
| 00:29.17 | Unrea1 | xD |
| 00:29.22 | vjeux | omg britney spears, madonna, ...! |
| 00:29.25 | rrowland | you don't even own HoN baddie |
| 00:29.25 | AsaPhelps | it might be because you're using a structure and it can't rotate around so you get a delay until the unit is in "front" of it |
| 00:29.32 | ProzaicMuze | lol yes I do |
| 00:29.40 | AsaPhelps | might need a turret for it, though PM probably knows more about that |
| 00:29.47 | rrowland | When did that happen, like 2 minutes ago? |
| 00:29.52 | waterfoul | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.54 | ProzaicMuze | Like, quite a while ago |
| 00:30.03 | ProzaicMuze | Wait, what abotu a turret? lol |
| 00:30.06 | ProzaicMuze | Are you talkin' about the chain? |
| 00:30.07 | wOlfLinG | Ok, wth was vjuex's link purple? O_o |
| 00:30.12 | wOlfLinG | vjeux* |
| 00:30.14 | Unrea1 | Miley is quite the hooker |
| 00:30.18 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:30.20 | vailreth | stupid editor |
| 00:30.25 | RodOfNOD | shes turning into it appears |
| 00:30.36 | AsaPhelps | i've seen this before where if you give a thing to a structure it won't fire until the unit is below/in front of it |
| 00:30.36 | Unrea1 | Cant wait :O |
| 00:30.38 | RodOfNOD | another lyndsey lohan |
| 00:30.46 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:30.48 | waterfoul | AsaPhelps I am triggering it via ability not weapon |
| 00:30.51 | FrozenWolf | i have a question..... how do find the coding for the starcraft 1 units and put them into starcraft 2... i want to take the origianal units and combine them with the new ones in order to add more into the game..... my map idea is going to be like a regular melee map only i want all the units availbe can anyone help me with this....... if you dont care i understand i just want to know |
| 00:31.00 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:31.03 | AsaPhelps | well if the thing is in front there's no delay that I notice |
| 00:31.10 | RodOfNOD | FrozenWolf: u and about 10 other groups of mod makers |
| 00:31.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster SweetZombieJesus (5591760a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.145.118.10) |
| 00:31.24 | RodOfNOD | we have spend years working on it already gl on that |
| 00:31.27 | RodOfNOD | spent |
| 00:31.34 | wOlfLinG | So apparently Lobato is Wolfling in spanish O_o |
| 00:31.52 | AsaPhelps | whats lobato in english? |
| 00:31.58 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:31.58 | ProzaicMuze | Lobato |
| 00:31.59 | ProzaicMuze | Duh |
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| 00:32.11 | RodOfNOD | so no comments on my last video link.... |
| 00:32.13 | AsaPhelps | is that a pokemon? |
| 00:32.42 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:32.45 | FrozenWolf | well there are lurkers and alot of the old terrian units already dose anyone know how to access those units and put them into the game |
| 00:32.55 | RodOfNOD | campaign |
| 00:32.58 | RodOfNOD | units |
| 00:33.26 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9aR2jKiFQs - goes for another obscure yet rocking band! |
| 00:33.44 | Unrea1 | Vjeux Gawd damn |
| 00:33.50 | Unrea1 | That video you linked |
| 00:33.50 | AsaPhelps | you just need to add campaign dependicies |
| 00:34.01 | vjeux | what? |
| 00:34.32 | Unrea1 | Softcore porn goin on there |
| 00:34.34 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:34.45 | vjeux | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKo4fFVymqk |
| 00:34.52 | RodOfNOD | once shes 18 i wont feel like such a dirty old man :P: |
| 00:35.09 | RodOfNOD | that one was blocked for me vjeux |
| 00:35.13 | Unrea1 | Lol |
| 00:35.22 | vjeux | owned, you can't listen to britney spears |
| 00:35.23 | vjeux | so bad :( |
| 00:35.26 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:35.31 | RodOfNOD | omg my ears they bleed |
| 00:35.43 | RodOfNOD | shes another good girl turned ho |
| 00:35.48 | RodOfNOD | what is up with these gals |
| 00:36.08 | vjeux | millions of dollar? |
| 00:36.13 | RodOfNOD | hehe i guess |
| 00:36.23 | P_R_Deltoid | last created unit only works with the trigger "create unit" correcT? |
| 00:36.24 | RodOfNOD | they can be sexy without being slutty |
| 00:36.30 | P_R_Deltoid | Or does it work on legit created units ie queued built units |
| 00:36.31 | RodOfNOD | look at beyonce |
| 00:36.38 | Unrea1 | Yeah, I mean if i had a million dollars i stroll around in a speedo |
| 00:36.44 | vjeux | beyonce not slutty? |
| 00:36.44 | RodOfNOD | yes P_R_Deltoid |
| 00:36.48 | Unrea1 | id |
| 00:36.49 | P_R_Deltoid | Yes what? |
| 00:36.51 | P_R_Deltoid | Two options |
| 00:36.52 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 yes |
| 00:36.56 | RodOfNOD | not to me vjeux |
| 00:36.59 | ProzaicMuze | @Water - the current problem is related to facing. Either you need the ability to not require it to look at the target, or find a way to make the buildign have an invisible turret turn to face the target for the building. |
| 00:37.02 | RodOfNOD | but i havent seen every video of hers |
| 00:37.26 | ProzaicMuze | Since the default facing is 270 (straight south), the ability only shoots at targets south of the building. |
| 00:37.54 | AsaPhelps | see |
| 00:37.59 | AsaPhelps | so I wasn't crazy |
| 00:38.00 | P_R_Deltoid | okay well |
| 00:38.02 | vjeux | RodOfNOD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkIf1yaaw5Q&feature=channel |
| 00:38.03 | P_R_Deltoid | I am gonna do Last Created Unit |
| 00:38.05 | P_R_Deltoid | and see if it works |
| 00:38.05 | vjeux | look at 3.05 |
| 00:38.17 | waterfoul | how would I not require the building to look at it's target? |
| 00:38.27 | RodOfNOD | lol i never knew these guys did a xmas albulm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw700PPGwvk&feature=fvsr |
| 00:38.31 | RodOfNOD | that link is blocked vjeux |
| 00:38.33 | vjeux | and that's only from the first video of youtubbe :p |
| 00:38.37 | vjeux | where are you living? |
| 00:38.40 | Thunderlord | Is it possible to add a cooldown to a stop ability type via triggers??? |
| 00:38.41 | RodOfNOD | usa |
| 00:38.53 | vjeux | omg that sucks |
| 00:38.57 | ProzaicMuze | Workin' on that part |
| 00:38.58 | RodOfNOD | This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment. It is no longer available in your country. |
| 00:39.03 | RodOfNOD | who is it ill find it |
| 00:39.12 | ProzaicMuze | I vaguely remember a way to remove facing requirements, but I need to find it or confirm it's not possible lol |
| 00:39.17 | P_R_Deltoid | is there any way to debug message a the type of unit in a unit variable |
| 00:39.25 | RodOfNOD | i so gotta get this xmas island |
| 00:39.29 | RodOfNOD | xmas albulm |
| 00:39.33 | waterfoul | I found it its called arc |
| 00:39.54 | RodOfNOD | yes P_R_Deltoid |
| 00:39.59 | P_R_Deltoid | How? |
| 00:40.11 | RodOfNOD | opens editgor... |
| 00:40.12 | P_R_Deltoid | aw |
| 00:40.14 | ProzaicMuze | lol that works Water |
| 00:40.16 | P_R_Deltoid | wow that was actually really easy |
| 00:40.17 | P_R_Deltoid | nevermind RodOfNOD |
| 00:40.18 | P_R_Deltoid | I got it |
| 00:40.20 | RedWraith | Hey guys |
| 00:40.23 | RedWraith | are there any good |
| 00:40.27 | RodOfNOD | see all i gotta do is tell u its possible |
| 00:40.27 | P_R_Deltoid | and when you said Yes earlier, did you mean "Yes, last created unit only works with triggers" |
| 00:40.32 | vjeux | http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2624/notslut.jpg |
| 00:40.33 | vjeux | not slut |
| 00:40.36 | RedWraith | youtube channels for pro-tf2 matches? |
| 00:40.39 | P_R_Deltoid | Well I always try "Convert Game to Text" |
| 00:40.39 | RedWraith | just wondering >_> |
| 00:40.39 | P_R_Deltoid | like |
| 00:41.25 | waterfoul | ok so not the delay is gone but it still doesn't chain |
| 00:41.40 | ProzaicMuze | THat's not a slut image |
| 00:41.42 | ProzaicMuze | That's a whore image |
| 00:41.46 | ProzaicMuze | two very different things |
| 00:41.52 | ProzaicMuze | I'm workin' on teh chain part |
| 00:42.19 | wOlfLinG | Proz speaks the truth. And with a name like that, he would know ^^ |
| 00:42.23 | RodOfNOD | vjeux: i found that video and i have to retract my earlier statement |
| 00:42.28 | waterfoul | well to fix the delay problem just put 360 in Ability - Arc |
| 00:42.32 | RodOfNOD | they are all hos |
| 00:42.34 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 00:42.34 | vjeux | :p |
| 00:42.40 | vjeux | btw that's the first on youtube |
| 00:42.41 | AsaPhelps | your searches have a radius of 0 |
| 00:42.44 | ProzaicMuze | BTW, Water, the first search has no radius. That's likely the problem. Testing th emap now |
| 00:42.46 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOXvqkC3W4M&feature=av2e |
| 00:42.47 | vjeux | there are probably a lot more :p |
| 00:42.54 | RodOfNOD | is what i can see |
| 00:43.02 | vjeux | This video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds. |
| 00:43.02 | AsaPhelps | I totally beat PM in that analysis |
| 00:43.25 | P_R_Deltoid | okay fo realz |
| 00:43.34 | AsaPhelps | poor vjeux can't watch justin beiber or lady gaga videos |
| 00:43.37 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 00:43.37 | P_R_Deltoid | I want to see when a producing structure produces a unit and then set that unit to a variable |
| 00:43.39 | P_R_Deltoid | how do I do this |
| 00:43.40 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 00:43.42 | P_R_Deltoid | quickly, someone |
| 00:43.43 | ProzaicMuze | By mere seconds |
| 00:43.43 | P_R_Deltoid | I am dying |
| 00:43.46 | P_R_Deltoid | literally DYING |
| 00:43.48 | RodOfNOD | where u at vjeux ? |
| 00:43.52 | wOlfLinG | lucky vjeux :( |
| 00:43.53 | vjeux | france |
| 00:43.53 | AsaPhelps | can I have your stuff |
| 00:43.53 | vjeux | paris |
| 00:43.59 | ProzaicMuze | Also, that does fix the chain, but the connection points are off a lil' |
| 00:44.01 | ProzaicMuze | Need to fix them |
| 00:44.03 | AsaPhelps | parle francias? |
| 00:44.11 | vjeux | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bESGLojNYSo |
| 00:44.12 | vjeux | i can |
| 00:44.18 | AsaPhelps | si? |
| 00:44.23 | AsaPhelps | thats all the french I know |
| 00:44.36 | wOlfLinG | Rod, proof of how french he is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhGMUT-tc24 |
| 00:44.46 | vjeux | xD |
| 00:44.49 | wOlfLinG | ^^ |
| 00:44.56 | wOlfLinG | Very very VERY french |
| 00:44.58 | vjeux | and people ask me why i don't want to shoutcast :p |
| 00:45.10 | wOlfLinG | I don't think i want you to now xD |
| 00:45.10 | AsaPhelps | anyone US want to help me test my map? |
| 00:45.25 | ProzaicMuze | holy crap |
| 00:45.30 | ProzaicMuze | I just listened to that |
| 00:45.31 | wOlfLinG | Although, to be fair, i could understand you by the end |
| 00:45.31 | AsaPhelps | is that blizzard contest open to everyone or just the US? |
| 00:45.31 | waterfoul | btw is there a way to copy the terrain from one map to another? |
| 00:45.44 | ProzaicMuze | first 10s are totally lost to my comprehension lol |
| 00:45.48 | AsaPhelps | copy paste might work not sure about between maps |
| 00:45.52 | vjeux | :( |
| 00:45.53 | wOlfLinG | asa, the rules say which countrys are allowed to enter |
| 00:45.55 | ProzaicMuze | it's fine |
| 00:46.03 | ProzaicMuze | French accents over English is so scary Xp |
| 00:46.12 | vjeux | we have a lover accent! |
| 00:46.19 | AsaPhelps | is korea allowed to enter |
| 00:46.19 | wOlfLinG | American accents are scarier though xD |
| 00:46.19 | ProzaicMuze | However I imagine English Accents over any accent sounds lazy |
| 00:46.27 | AsaPhelps | because if they can I won't even try to make a map |
| 00:46.28 | RodOfNOD | vjeux: make s me think im watching hogans heroes |
| 00:46.28 | ProzaicMuze | possibly even fat |
| 00:46.32 | wOlfLinG | English accent over an accent... wut? |
| 00:46.35 | RodOfNOD | with louie lebou |
| 00:46.42 | vxcriss | hey does anyone have any idea where the MineralCrate unit is? I'm trying to create one using create unit action but I can't find it in the list |
| 00:47.00 | vjeux | vxcriss: is't that a doodad? |
| 00:47.03 | *** join/#sc2mapster Fropper (~Fropper@p4FE0B2D9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:47.07 | waterfoul | Prozaic: the radius thing fixed it thanks |
| 00:47.10 | ProzaicMuze | np |
| 00:47.16 | vxcriss | well... dunno |
| 00:47.19 | ProzaicMuze | The beams themselves are a lil' screwy |
| 00:47.21 | AsaPhelps | hey I suggested radius first :( |
| 00:47.25 | ProzaicMuze | You know how to fix it? |
| 00:47.29 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, but I was more specific |
| 00:47.32 | ProzaicMuze | You were vague |
| 00:47.34 | ProzaicMuze | thus I win |
| 00:47.37 | RodOfNOD | i think thats an actor vxcriss |
| 00:47.41 | vjeux | ProzaicMuze has the biggest |
| 00:47.44 | RodOfNOD | ie a doodad |
| 00:47.45 | AsaPhelps | penis |
| 00:47.52 | ProzaicMuze | Vjeux speaks truth |
| 00:47.56 | vxcriss | the mineralcrate is editable as an unit in the data editor |
| 00:48.00 | vxcriss | yes it has an actor too |
| 00:48.01 | wOlfLinG | Biggest head, yeah |
| 00:48.04 | wOlfLinG | ^^ |
| 00:48.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster Komodo1138 (464bbfba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.75.191.186) |
| 00:48.19 | RodOfNOD | well then why did u ask vxcriss ? |
| 00:48.22 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 00:48.29 | vxcriss | cause I can't find it when I use create unit |
| 00:48.56 | waterfoul | sorry asa, II didn't see it |
| 00:48.58 | vxcriss | I can find it in the data editor, and in the map editor to put it on the map, but not in the list of units that pops up when you select an unit for the create unit action |
| 00:49.21 | RodOfNOD | k looking |
| 00:49.39 | Demo | How to find a region that a unit is in.... hmm |
| 00:50.08 | vxcriss | the action pop-up makes you select Unit Type for the unit you are creating |
| 00:50.13 | vxcriss | can't find it there |
| 00:50.23 | Repo | 10killing-platform: 03Atraeus * r66 unit_branch/killing-platform.SC2Map: Added some weapons |
| 00:51.19 | RodOfNOD | vxcriss: i dont see it it as a unit |
| 00:51.22 | RodOfNOD | i do see it as an actor |
| 00:51.50 | RodOfNOD | oh wait |
| 00:51.53 | RodOfNOD | i need campaign |
| 00:52.01 | vxcriss | yes it's campaign |
| 00:52.26 | vxcriss | it is under the units tab, but when you look at its properties, it's listed as Object Type : Item |
| 00:52.34 | RodOfNOD | k |
| 00:52.53 | vxcriss | gonna try changing its type to unit and see if that shows it up |
| 00:53.12 | RodOfNOD | still dont see it |
| 00:53.14 | RodOfNOD | whats its name |
| 00:53.45 | vxcriss | Mineral Crate... |
| 00:53.46 | vxcriss | hmm |
| 00:54.02 | RodOfNOD | i see cart |
| 00:54.04 | RodOfNOD | but no crate |
| 00:54.33 | vxcriss | nvm I found the damn thing |
| 00:54.37 | vxcriss | goddamn gui |
| 00:54.37 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:54.43 | RodOfNOD | just use the search |
| 00:54.47 | RodOfNOD | it should pop up |
| 00:54.50 | vxcriss | the list defaulted on terran but the thing was neutral |
| 00:54.53 | RodOfNOD | it must be the special campaign shit |
| 00:54.58 | vxcriss | it wasn't showing up in searches cause of the filter |
| 00:55.38 | vxcriss | anyway thanks for the help, the fact that you couldn't find it made me look at the filters :) |
| 00:55.48 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk52nGxF-jc - ok this takes me way back :> |
| 00:55.54 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:55.57 | RodOfNOD | np |
| 00:56.11 | vjeux | 1974 |
| 00:56.15 | vjeux | were you born? :p |
| 00:56.19 | RodOfNOD | yea |
| 00:56.20 | RodOfNOD | im old |
| 00:56.23 | vxcriss | so anyone here entering the blizz map competition? :) |
| 00:56.30 | RodOfNOD | nope |
| 00:56.37 | RodOfNOD | bliz doesnt drive my dream |
| 00:56.54 | vjeux | omfg! you are more than 36 :p |
| 00:56.58 | vxcriss | I'm gonna file just for the heck of it |
| 00:57.00 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:57.02 | RodOfNOD | 45 < |
| 00:57.08 | vjeux | ancient! :p |
| 00:57.13 | RodOfNOD | very much so |
| 00:57.22 | ProzaicMuze | @.@ |
| 00:57.23 | vxcriss | he's pre-computer era |
| 00:57.27 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:57.29 | ProzaicMuze | He's pre electricity |
| 00:57.30 | vjeux | lol |
| 00:57.31 | RodOfNOD | well pre MICRO |
| 00:57.34 | ProzaicMuze | He's pre-human! |
| 00:57.35 | RodOfNOD | not pre COMP |
| 00:57.38 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:57.39 | vjeux | he's pre fire |
| 00:57.40 | vjeux | that's it |
| 00:57.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster Jamash (~chatzilla@99-92-174-69.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:57.54 | rrowland | So I turn off acquired response but this stupid unit still auto attacks |
| 00:57.58 | RodOfNOD | lol i always say im old as dirt but not old as rocks |
| 00:58.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster Daeden (~a@94-195-209-10.zone9.bethere.co.uk) |
| 00:58.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster Motive (~motive@c-68-36-201-185.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 00:58.29 | ProzaicMuze | I'm 12 :( |
| 00:58.30 | wOlfLinG | Rod is pre NOD! |
| 00:58.38 | RodOfNOD | lol yes i am |
| 00:58.41 | wOlfLinG | Zomg! Proz is 12 :O |
| 00:59.08 | vjeux | i'm 21 for 10 days now :( |
| 00:59.19 | wOlfLinG | And you realise that NOD was supposedly started recently after the garden of eden story in the bible? |
| 00:59.20 | RodOfNOD | ProzaicMuze: u liar |
| 00:59.30 | RodOfNOD | i dont know much cnc lore |
| 00:59.38 | ProzaicMuze | I'm totally 12 |
| 00:59.39 | wOlfLinG | No-one can have a better age/ knowledge ratio than me >:( |
| 00:59.41 | ProzaicMuze | well, 12 and a half |
| 00:59.45 | wOlfLinG | D: |
| 00:59.46 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyyLshCQUEU&feature=related great zepplin song decent remake |
| 00:59.48 | vjeux | i'm 42/2 :p |
| 00:59.55 | ProzaicMuze | I'm 48/4 |
| 01:00.05 | wOlfLinG | I'm 30/2 -.- |
| 01:00.23 | ProzaicMuze | I'm 46 |
| 01:00.33 | vjeux | and my director at school lab is 42 :p |
| 01:00.34 | RodOfNOD | proz if i recall ur like 24 |
| 01:00.35 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 01:00.45 | ProzaicMuze | lol, I've actually never revealed my age ;) |
| 01:00.53 | ProzaicMuze | People just like to speculate |
| 01:00.59 | RodOfNOD | no i think u told me |
| 01:01.10 | wOlfLinG | He is Kane (aka Rod's boss ^^) |
| 01:01.11 | RodOfNOD | id have to look at logs but hose are on my fucked up PC |
| 01:01.18 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 01:01.22 | RodOfNOD | fuck kane the bald bastard |
| 01:01.25 | ProzaicMuze | well, I'm not 24, so no need |
| 01:01.26 | wOlfLinG | D: |
| 01:01.29 | wOlfLinG | Blasphemy! |
| 01:01.34 | vjeux | http://www.google.fr/search?num=100&hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_frFR291FR304&q=how+old+is+ProzaicMuze&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= |
| 01:01.45 | wOlfLinG | Burn the heretic! |
| 01:01.48 | RodOfNOD | btw if u havent seen this gal she rocks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhtDBqDucJE&feature=related |
| 01:01.57 | vjeux | http://www.google.fr/search?q=how+old+is+ProzaicMuze |
| 01:02.09 | vjeux | omg the number of useless arguments in google urls :p |
| 01:02.21 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 01:02.25 | RodOfNOD | man this gal can play |
| 01:02.50 | RaydenUni | do items remain on heroes through death now? |
| 01:02.55 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 01:02.55 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 01:02.56 | wOlfLinG | O_o |
| 01:02.59 | RodOfNOD | at least i dont think so |
| 01:03.07 | ProzaicMuze | my Uberlisk tutorial is first on google for my name |
| 01:03.07 | ProzaicMuze | nice |
| 01:03.11 | RodOfNOD | vjeux: u look at my link? |
| 01:03.17 | vjeux | yeah |
| 01:03.22 | vjeux | indeed she knows how to play :p |
| 01:03.37 | RodOfNOD | i wish i had talent like that |
| 01:03.41 | RodOfNOD | instead i mod :P |
| 01:03.52 | SweetZombieJesus | wow |
| 01:03.53 | Chainclaw | bleh editor crashed |
| 01:04.03 | wOlfLinG | lawl |
| 01:04.05 | SweetZombieJesus | my nickname's youtube channel beat sweetzombiejesus.com |
| 01:04.06 | ProzaicMuze | Why not have both? |
| 01:04.12 | SweetZombieJesus | and i got 2 videos! |
| 01:04.27 | RodOfNOD | cuz i cant play gutiar :P |
| 01:04.30 | RodOfNOD | ive tried |
| 01:04.35 | RodOfNOD | nor can i spell today evidently |
| 01:04.37 | ProzaicMuze | Holy crap |
| 01:04.45 | ProzaicMuze | I must be the ONLY ProzaicMuze in existence! |
| 01:04.52 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 01:04.53 | wOlfLinG | I have absolutly no mention of me when i searched 'wOlfLinG' ¬.¬ |
| 01:05.17 | vjeux | i am the only vjeux in the internet, except some random things like ajeux bjeux cjeux ... :p |
| 01:05.27 | SweetZombieJesus | sooo |
| 01:05.33 | ProzaicMuze | Oh hey, I'm being advertised on other sites |
| 01:05.34 | SweetZombieJesus | who has a suggestion for a library i could create next |
| 01:05.37 | SweetZombieJesus | maybe item shop? |
| 01:05.37 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.thehelper.net/forums/showthread.php?t=154062 |
| 01:05.42 | RodOfNOD | ok this guy has talent: if you like ac/dc u should watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNIlhuK9wrg |
| 01:05.44 | wOlfLinG | Searching for wOlfLisK however turns up 2 youtube vids and a few curse sites :/ |
| 01:05.58 | vjeux | omg the skin is ugly |
| 01:06.48 | wOlfLinG | wut skin? |
| 01:07.03 | vjeux | RodOfNOD: this guy is french :p |
| 01:07.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster fgenesis (~fg@p5B03EE96.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:07.09 | RodOfNOD | is he? |
| 01:07.12 | RodOfNOD | hes great |
| 01:07.20 | RodOfNOD | every instrument and he can do brian |
| 01:07.39 | Chainclaw | where is the ghost cloaking per-second drain rate hiding? |
| 01:07.49 | RodOfNOD | in ur pocket |
| 01:08.10 | AsaPhelps | behavior modification unit |
| 01:08.15 | RaydenUni | so the editor is still bugged so that when heroes die they don't retain items? |
| 01:08.19 | AsaPhelps | vital regeneration energy -1 |
| 01:08.26 | vjeux | did you know the sc2mapster db was 1gig? :p |
| 01:08.47 | vjeux | (when dumped in plain text) |
| 01:09.02 | RodOfNOD | behavior: Behavior NameSourceRaceBehavior Type |
| 01:09.03 | RodOfNOD | Ghost - CloakLiberty.SC2ModTerranBuff |
| 01:09.03 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.16 | RodOfNOD | thats not a bug RaydenUni |
| 01:09.21 | RodOfNOD | thats the way it is |
| 01:09.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster slightlyrandom (~random@port451.ds1-ba.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 01:09.32 | RaydenUni | that's kind of silly to not be able to do that |
| 01:09.33 | RodOfNOD | there are many tutorials on how to fix it |
| 01:09.42 | RaydenUni | my map requires that heroes revive with items |
| 01:09.43 | wOlfLinG | Fixy Fixy! |
| 01:09.43 | Chainclaw | I think I found what you are talking about, Rod, but I don't know what I'm looking at for this |
| 01:09.48 | RaydenUni | although i'm not sure the build in revive system will work for me |
| 01:09.49 | RodOfNOD | just save them urself |
| 01:09.56 | RaydenUni | seems kind of wonky to have a revive ability |
| 01:09.59 | RodOfNOD | stats-period Chainclaw |
| 01:10.01 | RaydenUni | easier to just do it with triggers |
| 01:10.04 | RodOfNOD | is the field |
| 01:10.25 | Chainclaw | period is 0, period count is -1 |
| 01:10.37 | Chainclaw | ok, I changed that, going to see what happens |
| 01:10.40 | RaydenUni | i'm looking over the phaos revive tutorial |
| 01:10.44 | RaydenUni | he says he doesn't know how to do items |
| 01:11.21 | Chainclaw | doesn't seem to do anything |
| 01:12.16 | RodOfNOD | hmm let me relook |
| 01:12.20 | RodOfNOD | doing 10 things at once |
| 01:13.02 | vjeux | http://www.thehelper.net/forums/showthread.php?t=154655 |
| 01:13.10 | vjeux | do you understand how it's working? |
| 01:13.21 | Chainclaw | The period count can't go under -1. I made the period 4, and in-game it said it drains at 0.3 per second (too low for me). I made the period -5, and now it says it drains at 0.5 per second? |
| 01:13.31 | vjeux | nevermind ... UIDisplayMessage(PlayerGroupSingle(whichPlayer), c_messageAreaDirective, StringToText("Please calibrate your resolution by clicking in the bottom right corner.")); |
| 01:13.41 | vjeux | lame |
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| 01:14.36 | Chainclaw | oh, that in-game value is related to my Ghost's energy regen |
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| 01:15.49 | Sixen | oops |
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| 01:16.03 | wOlfLinG | Btw, anyone know what is wrong with this trigger? http://pastebin.com/DUfp1HHK |
| 01:16.21 | MrDeath | anyone want to help test Super Baneling Tag (Sheep Tag)??? We need a full house! USA only please |
| 01:16.32 | AsaPhelps | I'll go death |
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| 01:16.40 | RodOfNOD | lol vj |
| 01:16.43 | MrDeath | sweet |
| 01:16.55 | wOlfLinG | It should reduce a variable by however amount of 'Population' attribute point's it has on it |
| 01:17.01 | wOlfLinG | But it doesn't :/ |
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| 01:20.33 | RodOfNOD | Chainclaw: u figure it out? cuz i cant lol |
| 01:20.33 | slightlyrandom | Well, first off why not remove the condition and make the event any unit takes fatal damage ? :P |
| 01:20.42 | Chainclaw | I can't figure it out, so I just gave the cloak a max duration, instead |
| 01:21.08 | slightlyrandom | also, why are you doing the reduce in a loop ? |
| 01:22.17 | slightlyrandom | The obvious debug suggestion is Integer to Text(Stack count of Population Increase on (Triggering unit) |
| 01:22.59 | Eiviyn | Hide/Show ability trigger is really, really slow |
| 01:23.07 | Eiviyn | It takes almost 5 seconds to take effect at times |
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| 01:23.21 | RodOfNOD | ProzaicMuze: must know this answer :P |
| 01:23.35 | ProzaicMuze | watuwan? |
| 01:23.42 | RodOfNOD | cloak |
| 01:23.47 | RodOfNOD | how it decrements the energy |
| 01:23.49 | slightlyrandom | wOlfLinG: I was talking to you! |
| 01:23.56 | slightlyrandom | negative regen |
| 01:24.01 | MrDeath | anyone want to help test Super Baneling Tag (Sheep Tag)??? We need a full house! USA only please |
| 01:24.07 | AsaPhelps | i told you it was negative vital regeneration |
| 01:24.09 | wOlfLinG | sorry, wasn't in the IRC page |
| 01:24.23 | ProzaicMuze | So you want to know how Cloak drains energy over time? |
| 01:24.30 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 01:24.36 | ProzaicMuze | [18:24] <AsaPhelps> i told you it was negative vital regeneration |
| 01:24.37 | RodOfNOD | Chainclaw: does that is |
| 01:24.38 | AsaPhelps | the cloak behavior has a modifcation for negative energy vital regeneration |
| 01:24.42 | ProzaicMuze | From the buff that cloaks the unit |
| 01:24.50 | slightlyrandom | Would someone listen to AsaPhelps? |
| 01:24.58 | AsaPhelps | PM overshadows me |
| 01:25.14 | RodOfNOD | what field :P |
| 01:25.20 | AsaPhelps | modifcation of the behavior |
| 01:25.22 | RodOfNOD | ive been looking ther i must be blind |
| 01:25.23 | AsaPhelps | unit |
| 01:25.28 | AsaPhelps | vital regeneration |
| 01:25.30 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 01:25.33 | Chainclaw | so it's not in the behavior? |
| 01:25.33 | AsaPhelps | should say -1 for energy or something |
| 01:25.45 | ProzaicMuze | I don't overshadow, I just answer questions :) |
| 01:25.49 | ProzaicMuze | Also, slighlty |
| 01:25.53 | ProzaicMuze | slightly* |
| 01:26.01 | RodOfNOD | i dont see it on the behavior |
| 01:26.01 | ProzaicMuze | where teh eff are mah 5 heerooz!? |
| 01:26.25 | ProzaicMuze | How you expect to make MDotA if you don't have heroes? |
| 01:26.31 | slightlyrandom | I'm busy! |
| 01:26.32 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 01:26.34 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 01:26.36 | ProzaicMuze | Dun care! |
| 01:26.38 | slightlyrandom | Wanking and stuff |
| 01:26.42 | ProzaicMuze | I want 5 heroes |
| 01:26.44 | ProzaicMuze | in my query |
| 01:26.46 | ProzaicMuze | ASAP |
| 01:26.47 | ProzaicMuze | Or |
| 01:26.48 | ProzaicMuze | or |
| 01:26.49 | ProzaicMuze | you're fired |
| 01:26.56 | RodOfNOD | where exactly give me the path AsaPhelps or ProzaicMuze :P |
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| 01:27.47 | ProzaicMuze | You're on the clock Asa |
| 01:27.51 | ProzaicMuze | give Rod an exact path! |
| 01:27.55 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 01:27.55 | ProzaicMuze | Go go go! |
| 01:27.56 | AsaPhelps | http://i33.tinypic.com/167qsgo.png |
| 01:28.24 | MrDeath | anyone want to help test Super Baneling Tag (Sheep Tag)??? We need a full house! USA only please |
| 01:28.24 | AsaPhelps | It even has go in the title |
| 01:28.28 | Chainclaw | It would be tempted to make a basic melee map, but replace all the voices with auto-tuned versions |
| 01:28.50 | vxcriss | is there any ready-made action to check if a region is free of any units |
| 01:29.19 | AsaPhelps | did you find it rod |
| 01:29.21 | AsaPhelps | DID YOU |
| 01:29.21 | MrDeath | hahaha |
| 01:29.26 | AsaPhelps | ~8ball Did he find it? |
| 01:29.27 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 01:29.29 | RodOfNOD | ty |
| 01:29.30 | MrDeath | chainclaw.. do it |
| 01:29.35 | AsaPhelps | even purl agrees |
| 01:29.36 | RodOfNOD | Chainclaw: u find it ? |
| 01:29.42 | Chainclaw | that screenshot has it |
| 01:29.49 | Chainclaw | I just don't know how to get to that 'Object Values" window |
| 01:29.50 | RodOfNOD | behavior - modification + then UNIT tab |
| 01:30.04 | RodOfNOD | ty AsaPhelps |
| 01:30.09 | RodOfNOD | forgot about the stupid tabs |
| 01:30.13 | Chainclaw | gotcha |
| 01:30.16 | AsaPhelps | now test my map |
| 01:30.20 | RodOfNOD | ok |
| 01:30.23 | RodOfNOD | let me get on |
| 01:30.25 | RodOfNOD | 905 |
| 01:30.25 | Chainclaw | I thought that was how you set what kind of behavior it was, I didn't know they were tabs |
| 01:30.51 | Eiviyn | I think you'll learn to hate behaviours soon enough if you're working with the data editor for very long |
| 01:31.28 | RodOfNOD | force quits SC2 |
| 01:32.02 | AsaPhelps | I don't think behaviors are as bad as actors |
| 01:32.17 | waterfoul | attepmts so force quit life |
| 01:32.34 | waterfoul | *so=to |
| 01:32.35 | slightlyrandom | vxcriss: Count the amount of units in the region and check against 0 |
| 01:32.38 | Chainclaw | how do you set what HUD type each player gets? Terran/Protoss/Zerg? |
| 01:32.46 | slightlyrandom | Set their race Chainclaw |
| 01:33.05 | Chainclaw | thanks |
| 01:33.11 | Unrea1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG8zNSf0c9k&feature=related |
| 01:33.47 | vxcriss | slightly, any name for that action? |
| 01:34.09 | slightlyrandom | Number of Units in Unit Group (Units in region matching condition) |
| 01:34.31 | waterfoul | how do you get an ability to auto fire |
| 01:34.36 | vxcriss | ah, thanks, that would have never occured to me |
| 01:34.41 | slightlyrandom | add some auto fire stuff on the ability |
| 01:34.56 | slightlyrandom | It's all listed under Auto Fire if you sort the fields with Tags |
| 01:35.25 | waterfoul | Auto Cast? |
| 01:35.29 | slightlyrandom | yeah |
| 01:35.33 | slightlyrandom | That's the bunny |
| 01:36.04 | Tinman | sighs |
| 01:36.10 | slightlyrandom | giggles |
| 01:36.22 | Tinman | blows up |
| 01:36.47 | slightlyrandom | whats wrong with you, being all down |
| 01:37.03 | vailreth | behaviors are cool |
| 01:37.06 | Tinman | Who put that bomb in there! |
| 01:37.27 | Eiviyn | Actors feel more like tax on your time |
| 01:37.43 | Eiviyn | Like for everything you do, you have to change 1-2 values in seemingly pointless actors |
| 01:37.45 | waterfoul | actors don;t like triggers either |
| 01:37.54 | wOlfLinG | I like triggers ^^ |
| 01:38.02 | wOlfLinG | Although i'm not an actor :/ |
| 01:38.02 | waterfoul | me too |
| 01:38.13 | Eiviyn | I feel dirty when I make triggers, like I could've made the trigger better every time |
| 01:38.15 | slightlyrandom | Got it fixed wOlfLinG? |
| 01:38.23 | Tinman | Im more of an artist then a actor |
| 01:38.31 | slightlyrandom | actors are artists |
| 01:38.35 | waterfoul | is more of a programmer than an artist |
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| 01:39.58 | Tinman | not really, artists make things, actors lie |
| 01:40.17 | Lasion | Mornin' everyone \o |
| 01:40.27 | slightlyrandom | Actors show a different version of reality, just like every other artist |
| 01:41.29 | rrowland | So can we add animations to models now? |
| 01:41.34 | rrowland | with the importer |
| 01:41.39 | Tinman | YES! |
| 01:42.27 | rrowland | Guess I need to work on that then cause my main unit has very limited animations |
| 01:42.40 | waterfoul | ROFL I think I did something wrong... my ability says it requires 1000% :D |
| 01:43.02 | Tinman | Wait a minute... I might be saying things I don't mean, I have been up for 83 hours and I am running on caffeine... |
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| 01:45.05 | waterfoul | I accedentlly put the cost in fraction instead of amount... so it was doing 10*100% instead of 10 |
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| 01:45.51 | Chainclaw | bleh, got the validation error "VALIDATION_WORKING_SET_SCORE_SCREEN_FAIL" what does that mean? |
| 01:45.58 | AsaPhelps | rod is such a mean tester |
| 01:46.01 | RedWraith | yay |
| 01:46.02 | RedWraith | By submitting the map you grant licensing rights to Blizzard Entertainment, and will not display, post, or share it until after the contest closes on September 11, 2010. |
| 01:46.09 | Reactorex | tinman: nice rhyme. |
| 01:46.10 | slightlyrandom | I think maybe it failed when trying to set the score screen |
| 01:46.12 | RedWraith | That made my life so much easier |
| 01:46.13 | RedWraith | ;D |
| 01:46.24 | AsaPhelps | reacorex |
| 01:46.24 | RedWraith | Now I wont have to compete with maps that have already started in development. |
| 01:46.25 | AsaPhelps | oh oh |
| 01:46.27 | AsaPhelps | reactor |
| 01:46.31 | Reactorex | hai? |
| 01:47.05 | Lasion | Any of the moderators around? |
| 01:47.16 | Tinman | I will take tis opportunity of silence to do some shameless self promotion: |
| 01:47.16 | Tinman | I am setting up a YouTube channel to do commentaries on custom maps, so if you have any cool replays don't be shy and send them to me at |
| 01:47.16 | Tinman | SC2Tinman@Gmail.com |
| 01:47.25 | Tinman | puh |
| 01:47.37 | Lasion | Tinman, is that only UMS replays or melee ones aswell? ;) |
| 01:47.46 | Reactorex | Tinman, was that a quote from somewhere or did you mean to make that rhyme...? |
| 01:47.52 | Reactorex | I'm seriously curious! |
| 01:47.53 | Tinman | It did not end up that bad really, I was going for a few more spelling errors |
| 01:47.53 | Lasion | I had an awesome 1h20min game today which was pretty epic |
| 01:47.59 | slightlyrandom | Tinman: Shouldn't you play the game yourself so you know what the hell is going on? :P |
| 01:48.06 | Tinman | Reactorex that was pure random... |
| 01:48.14 | Reactorex | Epic. >:3 |
| 01:48.16 | AsaPhelps | reactor want to help me with a test? you seem to like my map for some reason |
| 01:48.38 | Tinman | Reactorex I did not actually intend for it to rhyme, I noticed it when you mentioned it |
| 01:48.44 | Reactorex | I seem to like everyone's maps. :3 |
| 01:48.54 | Reactorex | Tinman, I'm taking a screenhsot of that and putting it on my wall. |
| 01:48.54 | Reactorex | XD |
| 01:48.56 | Tinman | slightlyrandom I should... shame on me |
| 01:49.18 | Reactorex | Or hacking it into my ROM. |
| 01:49.43 | Lasion | slightlyrandom, shouldn't you be looking at yourself before you pick at others? ;) |
| 01:49.47 | AsaPhelps | reactorex, want to help me test a few changes I made? |
| 01:49.55 | Reactorex | AsaPhelps, sure! |
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| 01:49.57 | Tinman | I think I become a unintentional white rapper when I am running on my spare batteries :s |
| 01:50.02 | slightlyrandom | Well, I was just wondering how you're gonna commentate on a game you haven't played |
| 01:50.12 | slightlyrandom | Seems tricky to me |
| 01:50.16 | Reactorex | Let me add my library to my test map right quick. ~120 seconds - ~180 seconds. |
| 01:50.30 | KiwiWarrior | hey guys you know the larva spawn behavior |
| 01:50.31 | waterfoul | I have Ability - Autocast Aquire Level set to Offensive, Ability - Autocast Filters set to Visible Enemy or Neureal, Ability - Autocast Range set to 20, Ability - Autocast Validators set to Can spend energy and it won't autocast... what did I do wrong? |
| 01:50.31 | Lasion | Surely you can get knowlenge by just watching reviews >_> |
| 01:50.33 | Lasion | *cough* |
| 01:50.45 | Tinman | slightlyrandom Its possible, I see HD and Husky do it all the time! |
| 01:50.47 | AsaPhelps | the larva spawn behavior of the queen? |
| 01:50.52 | KiwiWarrior | no |
| 01:50.53 | AsaPhelps | or the wander behavior of larva |
| 01:50.55 | slightlyrandom | ^^ |
| 01:50.56 | KiwiWarrior | main building |
| 01:51.00 | KiwiWarrior | lair |
| 01:51.02 | Lasion | @tinman! is that both UMS and Melee replays? |
| 01:51.07 | AsaPhelps | yeah what about it |
| 01:51.16 | Chainclaw | I can't figure out what "VALIDATION_WORKING_SET_SCORE_SCREEN_FAIL" means |
| 01:51.20 | MrDeath | is there any way to reference a player's team with triggers |
| 01:51.20 | KiwiWarrior | im trying to make dat behavior spawn marines |
| 01:51.33 | KiwiWarrior | but when i do it, it swpans 20 marines |
| 01:51.37 | slightlyrandom | Yes MrDeath |
| 01:51.40 | Lasion | If you can be arsed to make a commentary on a 1h20min game then I've got just the thing :D |
| 01:51.49 | Tinman | Lasion I am going for a pure UMS as there are so many others covering Melee maps, but if its a cool custom Melee map, SURE! |
| 01:51.54 | KiwiWarrior | and no more it dont spawn for ever and ever |
| 01:52.04 | RaydenUni | hmm. i just did bifuus hero tutorial and he adds attributes, but the attributes don't level |
| 01:52.07 | RaydenUni | annoying tutorial |
| 01:52.08 | Lasion | I'm afraid it's the standard one :( |
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| 01:52.12 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: Are you sure it doesn't spawn 19 marines ? |
| 01:52.19 | MrDeath | idk how to whisper slightlyrandom, but how would you do it? |
| 01:52.22 | Tinman | Lasion Like fastest possible, or unlimited resources |
| 01:52.26 | KiwiWarrior | yea |
| 01:52.30 | KiwiWarrior | some number |
| 01:52.31 | slightlyrandom | What are you trying to do MrDeath? |
| 01:52.43 | KiwiWarrior | it will not just spawn one at a time |
| 01:52.47 | KiwiWarrior | and forever |
| 01:52.51 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: 19 is the max amount of marines the hatchery can support |
| 01:52.54 | Tinman | Lasion if you want to you can still send it, you can me the first to see if my e-mail works :p |
| 01:53.02 | Lasion | haha |
| 01:53.05 | Lasion | what was it? ;) |
| 01:53.15 | MrDeath | i want to have a lobby with no teams, and set the teams at map initialization with triggers |
| 01:53.16 | slightlyrandom | ehm, Larva |
| 01:53.17 | Tinman | SC2Tinman@Gmail.com |
| 01:53.27 | KiwiWarrior | so how do i make a larva spawn thing work for a footies type map |
| 01:53.28 | KiwiWarrior | ? |
| 01:53.49 | AsaPhelps | Periodic create unit? |
| 01:53.50 | slightlyrandom | MrDeath: Do a search in the Trigger Actions for alliance |
| 01:53.52 | AsaPhelps | is that all you want |
| 01:53.59 | KiwiWarrior | cos i was told dat was the best way to do when the build upgrades it changes unit |
| 01:54.04 | slightlyrandom | I'd make it a trigger based action KiwiWarrior |
| 01:54.07 | waterfoul | any good tutorial;s on getting abilities to auto cast? |
| 01:54.21 | KiwiWarrior | the peridoic create unit dont change the unit when the build upgarded |
| 01:54.34 | RaydenUni | waterfoul, i got weapons to auto cast... |
| 01:54.35 | slightlyrandom | waterfoul: I think there are some flags you need to set on the ability, too |
| 01:54.36 | slightlyrandom | maybe |
| 01:54.40 | Chainclaw | ok, figured it out |
| 01:54.40 | RaydenUni | what kind of ability? |
| 01:54.43 | RaydenUni | look at the medic heal |
| 01:54.49 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: But it can, but it can |
| 01:54.49 | RaydenUni | right? |
| 01:54.50 | Chainclaw | I was setting the player's race in the game variants and in the player properties |
| 01:54.50 | MrDeath | okay, i'll check it out. thanks |
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| 01:56.12 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: Make the periodic create unit use a variable instead of directly referencing a unit |
| 01:56.20 | slightlyrandom | and then change that variable when you upgrade to a new unit type |
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| 01:56.35 | KiwiWarrior | i see |
| 01:56.38 | Lasion | sendt |
| 01:57.01 | AsaPhelps | reactor, almost ready sir? |
| 01:57.33 | Tinman | Lasion got it |
| 01:57.38 | Reactorex | Yep. |
| 01:57.53 | Reactorex | I've got it down and will double check my work after the test. :) |
| 01:57.54 | Tinman | grabs his popcorn and watches the replay. |
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| 01:58.06 | Reactorex | Did I take longer than estimated? I lost count. |
| 01:58.18 | Lasion | thinking of it, you're probably going to crince in agony and go like "OH MY GOD WHY DID YOU DO THAT?!" but in the heat of the battle it was the most thrilling fight i've had ;) |
| 01:58.32 | AsaPhelps | I didn't count either |
| 01:58.35 | Reactorex | xD |
| 01:58.47 | Reactorex | Oh, hee. |
| 01:58.48 | Reactorex | jee* |
| 01:58.54 | Reactorex | I checked chat logs. |
| 01:58.57 | Reactorex | I said it eight minutes ago. XD |
| 02:00.17 | MrDeath | Galois-evariste: you there? |
| 02:00.18 | Chainclaw | my map is ready for testing if anyone wants to help + I can figure out how to host it |
| 02:00.31 | slightlyrandom | publish it to b.net |
| 02:00.36 | Chainclaw | it's published |
| 02:00.40 | RaydenUni | can you make missiles die after a time? |
| 02:00.43 | slightlyrandom | then create a game |
| 02:00.43 | RaydenUni | so you can outrun them? |
| 02:00.43 | Chainclaw | I meant the in-game interface. Inviting people to a private game |
| 02:00.50 | slightlyrandom | Click the + Player button |
| 02:00.53 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 02:01.06 | AsaPhelps | omg reactor won't press any key |
| 02:01.17 | slightlyrandom | RaydenUni: Yes |
| 02:01.18 | Chainclaw | well anyone want to give me a hand? It's 3v3 king of the hill, each player gets 1 infantry |
| 02:01.23 | slightlyrandom | Check the Hunter Seeker Missile |
| 02:01.26 | RaydenUni | k |
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| 02:03.48 | bdbandit | hey i was wondering how do u make a building usable by all players |
| 02:03.50 | bdbandit | like in dota |
| 02:03.51 | RaydenUni | missiles are units? |
| 02:03.54 | RaydenUni | they can die? |
| 02:03.58 | slightlyrandom | yes |
| 02:04.09 | slightlyrandom | But most things cannot attack missiles |
| 02:04.10 | RaydenUni | so i could just make a missile with 5 health, lose 1hps |
| 02:04.14 | slightlyrandom | You'll see that on their target filters |
| 02:04.17 | RaydenUni | and it will seek for 5 seconds |
| 02:04.25 | RaydenUni | but that means i can make anti missile weapons |
| 02:04.27 | KiwiWarrior | so slightlyrandom, i create a timer and make a varible, and then use the create unit to use the varable to tell what unit to spawm at what building |
| 02:04.27 | RaydenUni | interesting |
| 02:04.28 | slightlyrandom | If you make it lose 1hp every 1 sec, yeah |
| 02:04.31 | RaydenUni | that opens so many more options |
| 02:04.42 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: Something like that |
| 02:04.53 | slightlyrandom | depends what exactly you're trying to do |
| 02:05.10 | RaydenUni | well i might make a missile weapon and then a laser weapon that shoots downmissiles |
| 02:05.13 | Chainclaw | there are anti-missile weapons in the game already |
| 02:05.20 | RaydenUni | the raven thing? |
| 02:05.21 | slightlyrandom | Point Defense Drone |
| 02:05.25 | RaydenUni | defence drone? |
| 02:05.26 | KiwiWarrior | make it look a footie when the player upgardes a building, a new unit type spawns there |
| 02:05.45 | RaydenUni | mmmmm |
| 02:05.47 | RaydenUni | i like this very much |
| 02:06.12 | slightlyrandom | Well, you make a trigger that updates the unit type when it detects a new building being upgraded |
| 02:06.23 | slightlyrandom | and just do your standard spawn unit on a timer thing |
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| 02:06.51 | KiwiWarrior | ok |
| 02:06.54 | vailreth | ~seen ProzaicMuze |
| 02:06.56 | purl | prozaicmuze is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 325 messages. Is idling for 39m 1s, last said: 'Go go go!'. |
| 02:07.03 | ProzaicMuze | hrm |
| 02:07.04 | ProzaicMuze | ? |
| 02:07.44 | vailreth | sorry i need your advice i need to add an attack actor to a units weapon .. |
| 02:07.50 | ProzaicMuze | Mmk, what's the problem? |
| 02:08.07 | Chainclaw | so no one wants to help me test? |
| 02:08.52 | vailreth | i dont have any clue how to begin i have a unit like a broodling being fired from another and when it gets to the target i want it to explode like a backlash rocket missle effect |
| 02:09.04 | Chainclaw | http://yfrog.com/0hinfantrydeathmatchviewsp |
| 02:09.25 | RedWraith | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374941318#new-post |
| 02:09.31 | RedWraith | I felt like askin' |
| 02:09.58 | Cornelius | anyone bored feel like helping me test the alpha version of my new map? |
| 02:10.04 | Cornelius | kinda "defend the base"ish |
| 02:10.07 | Chainclaw | It'll be messed up if you can't test it privately, but I wouldn't be surprised, Activision is a fucked up company |
| 02:10.20 | Tinman | Cornelius what region? |
| 02:10.24 | Cornelius | US |
| 02:10.28 | vailreth | as the unit its self is a missile unit but its not spawned through a launch missile its instead created with the broodlords spawn broodling sets |
| 02:10.32 | RedWraith | Cornelius, name/number? |
| 02:10.33 | Tinman | Cornelius sorry, cant help you then |
| 02:10.47 | Lasion | Tinman, what'd you think? ;) |
| 02:10.57 | Cornelius | name: cornelius number: 862 |
| 02:11.15 | Lasion | also, ProzaicMuze, can you make a thread sticky on the forums? (or is there a way that i can suggest one that I haven't seen yet?) |
| 02:11.30 | Tinman | Lasion I played it off at Faster x8 then I fell asleep and hurt myself on the floor :p J/K |
| 02:11.39 | Lasion | ;P |
| 02:11.44 | Lasion | You make me a sad panda! |
| 02:11.53 | Tinman | Lasion Im tiered ok! |
| 02:12.00 | Lasion | its 04:11 here, you? |
| 02:12.07 | ProzaicMuze | @Vailreth - so you want your missile to be a broodling and the impact to be an explosion? |
| 02:12.10 | Lasion | wait.. you're german.. its the same for you. |
| 02:12.16 | Lasion | Neeevurhmind |
| 02:12.19 | slightlyrandom | (04:12:00) Lasion: its 04:11 here, you? |
| 02:12.21 | Tinman | Lasion Im not german! |
| 02:12.24 | ProzaicMuze | @Lasion - I, personally, can sticky stuff, yes. Or are you asking if YOU can sticky? |
| 02:12.31 | Tinman | 04:11 |
| 02:12.41 | Lasion | Well, is there a "report for sticky" button? |
| 02:12.50 | Tinman | Norway if you wanted to know. |
| 02:12.59 | Lasion | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/7253-the-map-testers-list/ <- I'd like to report that for sticky |
| 02:13.19 | Lasion | Norway? Same here ;P But I thought you and your League of Legends clan sounded awfully germanish |
| 02:13.20 | Lasion | :D |
| 02:13.20 | vailreth | i want it to be the backlash rocket ammo unit and explode on death but i am going to test some things |
| 02:13.26 | RedWraith | Cornelius, you've been added. |
| 02:13.46 | Tinman | Im not in a clan >.> |
| 02:13.47 | Cornelius | alright 1 sec, will inv u after this game |
| 02:13.56 | Lasion | huh.. |
| 02:14.00 | Lasion | I 'might' be mixing names |
| 02:14.18 | Tinman | You might be mixing with one of the other billion Tinmen |
| 02:14.29 | Lasion | Probably -.^ |
| 02:14.44 | Tinman | We are legion! |
| 02:14.50 | Lasion | .. |
| 02:15.21 | Lasion | You're not very anonymus, are you? :P |
| 02:16.26 | Tinman | I am not, I run a community and some other stuff, my name is out there |
| 02:16.55 | Lasion | Isn't the point of "we are many; we are legion!" that you remain anonymus even if you do shitz? ;) |
| 02:17.12 | Chainclaw | first test was a titanic failure. Apparently my UI dialog closes windows for all players when it should only close it for one |
| 02:17.31 | Tinman | No, it means that I can eat my cake with friends that also like the same cake as myslef |
| 02:17.36 | slightlyrandom | That, or that killing/shutting down one won't stop the legion |
| 02:17.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Kalekin (~nnscript@41-132-249-102.dsl.mweb.co.za) |
| 02:18.03 | ProzaicMuze | Thread stickied |
| 02:18.08 | Lasion | heeh... "titanic failure" ^^ |
| 02:18.13 | Lasion | And cheers \o |
| 02:18.15 | ProzaicMuze | However, if it veers off course, I'll unsticky it :) |
| 02:18.25 | deathnight114 | I know this isn't starcraft related, but can anyone help me? I can't get volume to work and my task manager wont start -_- |
| 02:18.29 | Lasion | Not my thread, but I saw the use in it :) |
| 02:18.37 | slightlyrandom | deathnight114: www.ubuntu.com |
| 02:18.44 | deathnight114 | I'm running windows |
| 02:18.48 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 02:18.52 | slightlyrandom | That's your problem |
| 02:18.53 | Tinman | deathnight114 Stop and Start your computer. |
| 02:18.54 | deathnight114 | I have linux on my comp tho, but i'm too lazy to run it |
| 02:19.04 | deathnight114 | Already got it installed |
| 02:19.07 | deathnight114 | Alright, i'll try |
| 02:19.16 | Lasion | deathnight114, did you shut down some fancy processes? |
| 02:19.23 | deathnight114 | Nope |
| 02:19.29 | deathnight114 | I got an error saying that one stopped working |
| 02:19.32 | Lasion | it just randomly stopped? |
| 02:19.34 | deathnight114 | But i forgot what it was... |
| 02:19.37 | deathnight114 | Yeah |
| 02:19.45 | Lasion | Yeah I'd just reboot in that case. |
| 02:19.47 | ProzaicMuze | @Vail - let me know when you need my help after testing. Assuming I understand what you are asking, it's pretty easy to do. |
| 02:19.51 | deathnight114 | aight |
| 02:19.52 | Tinman | deathnight114 can you right click your clock and open the process manager from there? |
| 02:19.53 | deathnight114 | brb then |
| 02:19.59 | slightlyrandom | Find your system log deathnight114 |
| 02:20.03 | slightlyrandom | and figure out what happened |
| 02:20.12 | deathnight114 | lawl i can't |
| 02:20.16 | Lasion | if it repeats itself then you should look into it |
| 02:20.17 | deathnight114 | The search thing isn't working either |
| 02:20.18 | deathnight114 | -_- |
| 02:20.20 | slightlyrandom | dmesg | grep tail |
| 02:20.24 | deathnight114 | I'll just try to reboot for now |
| 02:20.24 | slightlyrandom | ehm |
| 02:20.29 | slightlyrandom | dmesg | tail |
| 02:20.30 | Tinman | deathnight114 Pull the plug and see if it works without it in, if so, your haunted |
| 02:20.49 | Lasion | hehe |
| 02:20.57 | Lasion | would be funny if he did try that ^^ |
| 02:21.03 | slightlyrandom | Heh did |
| 02:21.04 | Tinman | Alt + F4 shows a nude medic! |
| 02:21.12 | Lasion | "OMG I'M HAUNTED!" *sits on a laptop* |
| 02:22.02 | Lasion | I saw a forum post from 4chan where some people convinced a guy that deleting system32.bat was a good idea, and furthermore he would recover his computer if only he sweeped a magnet several times physically over the harddrive. |
| 02:22.14 | Lasion | Poor kid did everything flawlessly. |
| 02:22.19 | slightlyrandom | amazing |
| 02:22.20 | Lasion | "Enjoy your paperweight" |
| 02:22.27 | Tinman | I remember that on Broodwars, telling people if you hit Alt+F4 a picture of a nude medic pops up, suddenly you see all players leave and you win the game >_> Old School Cheese |
| 02:22.35 | Lasion | hehe |
| 02:23.55 | vjeux | alt q q :) |
| 02:24.01 | Lasion | http://i35.tinypic.com/21n3xgm.png <- that one is lawl |
| 02:24.07 | ProzaicMuze | Reminds me of Diablo item scams |
| 02:24.16 | Tinman | Does that still work or was that only warcarft? |
| 02:24.17 | ProzaicMuze | "You can dupe your item by dropping it in the corner over here whiel I'm waaaay ove rhere" |
| 02:24.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster deathnight114 (~chatzilla@c-24-19-236-254.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 02:25.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net) |
| 02:25.31 | Tinman | deathnight114 did it work!?! |
| 02:25.36 | deathnight114 | Yeah I got volume |
| 02:25.39 | deathnight114 | But on shut-down |
| 02:25.42 | deathnight114 | I got a BSOD |
| 02:25.45 | Lasion | haha |
| 02:25.46 | Lasion | ouch |
| 02:25.47 | Tinman | Im overly exited today |
| 02:26.12 | deathnight114 | Then when i started up, I got an error saying _____.dll was unable to start.... I wasn't able to remember it though |
| 02:26.14 | deathnight114 | -_- |
| 02:26.27 | Lasion | that's the kinda things you need to take note to :/ |
| 02:26.28 | deathnight114 | It forced me to close windows before I could do anything else |
| 02:26.32 | Tinman | Get TuneUp Utilities, it fixes everything! |
| 02:26.33 | deathnight114 | Yeha |
| 02:26.34 | deathnight114 | Yeah* |
| 02:26.34 | slightlyrandom | write that sort of shit down :P |
| 02:26.50 | slightlyrandom | Well, the only way to fix windows is to reinstall |
| 02:27.07 | slightlyrandom | (or uninstall, that gets rid of the problem for good) |
| 02:27.19 | Tinman | Not true, this tool is epic: http://www.tune-up.com/download/ |
| 02:27.27 | ProzaicMuze | Gah, I hate how blizz put so many models that can't be 3d scaled or timescaled |
| 02:27.31 | deathnight114 | already downloading |
| 02:27.33 | deathnight114 | :P |
| 02:27.35 | deathnight114 | @tinman |
| 02:28.11 | jorgenpt | ProzaicMuze: What does timescaled? And by 3d scaled, do you mean scaled in xyz? |
| 02:28.19 | jorgenpt | s/scaled/& mean/ |
| 02:28.22 | Tinman | You just need to click the "One click maintenance" and poof, your computer is 100003034 problems lighter |
| 02:28.24 | jorgenpt | Dumb purl |
| 02:28.34 | ProzaicMuze | wtf? |
| 02:28.38 | deathnight114 | But the thing is @Slightlyrandom, My windows was just reinstalled 2 weeks ago |
| 02:28.40 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 02:28.47 | slightlyrandom | Tinman: That's what my solution does, too |
| 02:28.56 | jorgenpt | & is PCRE for "the stuff you just matched" |
| 02:28.57 | ProzaicMuze | 3dscaled is size |
| 02:29.02 | slightlyrandom | removes all of your problems |
| 02:29.03 | ProzaicMuze | timescaled is animation duration |
| 02:29.04 | Tinman | But does Blizzard like linux? |
| 02:29.10 | deathnight114 | No it doesn't |
| 02:29.11 | slightlyrandom | Generally, yeah |
| 02:29.14 | ProzaicMuze | In the Animation Play (Animation Properties) |
| 02:29.16 | slightlyrandom | Not the editor, though |
| 02:29.18 | jorgenpt | Aha |
| 02:29.19 | deathnight114 | SCII Crashes my computer every time i run it on linux |
| 02:29.21 | slightlyrandom | The editor hates linux |
| 02:29.24 | jorgenpt | Why aren't they size scaled? |
| 02:29.28 | MrDeath | Galois-evariste: you there? |
| 02:29.44 | slightlyrandom | SC2 works pretty much flawlessly on linux |
| 02:29.57 | slightlyrandom | Not quite, but its close |
| 02:30.06 | Tinman | I don't want to play, I just want to map! |
| 02:30.11 | Tinman | well, thats a lie |
| 02:30.17 | deathnight114 | It screws up everytime i try to run it |
| 02:30.17 | Tinman | But I can pretend! |
| 02:30.27 | vjeux | it works well on windows :p |
| 02:30.36 | slightlyrandom | Nothing works well on windows |
| 02:30.47 | Lasion | Oh really? ;) |
| 02:30.52 | Tinman | Windows does unfortunately not work well on Windows... |
| 02:31.04 | Lasion | I've had near 0 problems with Win7 |
| 02:31.26 | Tinman | Same, but its that occasional issue that tears your mind appart |
| 02:31.48 | jorgenpt | Works well on OS X |
| 02:31.56 | AsaPhelps | reactoreeeeeeeex |
| 02:32.32 | Tinman | still, its better to get a problem with windows then with mac... sigh mac just dies completely and then it says its not a issue its a feature and laughs at you and your empty wallet for not being able to buy Apple Super Scam Insurance |
| 02:32.44 | slightlyrandom | Mac is, if anything, worse than windows |
| 02:32.58 | slightlyrandom | Looks prettier, though |
| 02:33.14 | deathnight114 | omfg |
| 02:33.16 | slightlyrandom | And if you can afford to buy a new one every time something goes wrong, has better functionality as well |
| 02:33.17 | deathnight114 | This program crashes |
| 02:33.22 | deathnight114 | every time i try to fix a problem... |
| 02:33.24 | Tinman | W7 Is not that bad though, looks cool if you modify it a tad bit |
| 02:33.30 | ProzaicMuze | Oh no! Daniel is a Prior! We're all doomed! |
| 02:34.14 | Tinman | Then you need to go to the final destination! REFORMAT! |
| 02:34.30 | Lasion | btw Tinman, where in norw are you from? :P |
| 02:35.02 | Tinman | I am from a can factory that went horribly wrong |
| 02:35.24 | deathnight114 | lawl |
| 02:35.31 | deathnight114 | If i reformated I would lose Ubuntu too |
| 02:35.32 | MrDeath | does anyone have or want to make a UI menu thing to use at the beginning of a Sheep Tag map that allows one to choose a team and a hero? everything in the game is done and tested except for a proper way to choose teams. the lobby configuration in this game is bullshit and i want to just use a custom menu within the game.. i'd do it myself if it didn't require hours of work |
| 02:35.35 | Tinman | Its not funny! |
| 02:35.44 | deathnight114 | Wait i think i got it working |
| 02:35.52 | slightlyrandom | MrDeath: Why do you think someone will do hours of work for you? |
| 02:36.16 | MrDeath | slightlyrandom: i was just seeing if anyone had anything done already, of course they would be fully credited |
| 02:36.17 | slightlyrandom | Try to find a library that does what you need, find a map that has that functionality and, if the map allows it, copy that code |
| 02:36.39 | AsaPhelps | there's a tutorial on the forums for that mrdeath |
| 02:36.53 | Tinman | Copy is not the same as Stealing! |
| 02:36.55 | deathnight114 | Oh i thought he was talking to me LOL |
| 02:37.35 | MrDeath | the issue is, it would need to be set up a particular way.. i already went down the UI menu road trying to make an item shop |
| 02:38.18 | MrDeath | i ended up just using a modified merc compound |
| 02:38.27 | Tinman | I made a UI for my **** map, where it sent all your **** up the **** when you clicked the **** button. |
| 02:38.51 | deathnight114 | defragmenting hard-disks |
| 02:39.01 | Tinman | The * Represents words that Blizzard did not allow me to put on my map |
| 02:39.04 | jorgenpt | Tinman: I'm not sure where your statement comes from, I've had no troubles I couldn't fix. ;-) |
| 02:39.33 | Tinman | jorgenpt what where? |
| 02:39.39 | jorgenpt | Mac |
| 02:39.57 | jorgenpt | MrDeath: Use SweetZombieJesus's Circle Hero Selection? :) |
| 02:40.04 | waterfoul | if you put two buttons on the same position of the command card how do you switch between them? |
| 02:40.06 | Reactorex | AsaPhelps: Sorry! I'm back. XD |
| 02:40.13 | Tinman | aww, well they might not have alot of problems, but when they first have a problem is a shit load |
| 02:40.15 | Reactorex | I started watching WhiteBomber play Parasite... |
| 02:40.59 | MrDeath | jorgenpt: i'll try it out |
| 02:41.11 | AsaPhelps | okay I think I fixed it |
| 02:41.50 | Tinman | waterfoul I think one is on top of the other, like the Cloak ability and De Cloak and be on top of each other as cloaking removes the button |
| 02:43.00 | vailreth | the hell?? |
| 02:43.06 | Chainclaw | anyone up for testing my map? |
| 02:43.09 | vailreth | my banshees are turning into broodling |
| 02:43.16 | vxcriss | anyone know how to get the name of a player from actions? |
| 02:43.17 | P_R_Deltoid | don't let them! |
| 02:43.19 | P_R_Deltoid | stop them before it's too late |
| 02:44.00 | Unrea1 | How could i spawn a doodad through triggers :| |
| 02:44.18 | slightlyrandom | Unrea1: Spawn unit |
| 02:44.22 | slightlyrandom | create unit |
| 02:44.24 | slightlyrandom | create actor |
| 02:44.25 | slightlyrandom | SOMETHIN! |
| 02:44.28 | Tinman | Not sure, I know you can hide and reveal them |
| 02:44.32 | Unrea1 | DONT CAPS ME! |
| 02:44.40 | slightlyrandom | vailreth: You clearly have some bugged actor events |
| 02:44.49 | Tinman | eats the CAPSLOCK |
| 02:44.50 | Unrea1 | Or maybe i could make the doodad a unit 0.o |
| 02:44.56 | vxcriss | how do I get the name of a player? |
| 02:44.59 | Unrea1 | Shits Unreal |
| 02:45.01 | slightlyrandom | waterfoul: With a validator on the button, some how |
| 02:45.02 | Unrea1 | Read? |
| 02:45.15 | Lasion | I'm gone for 5 minutes and you all go capslock? What's this? ;o |
| 02:45.20 | slightlyrandom | vxcriss: Use the "Name of Player" action |
| 02:45.24 | Unrea1 | THIS IS SPARTA |
| 02:45.31 | Lasion | *kicks* |
| 02:45.31 | vailreth | its not the actor ithink its something to do with a carriers that spawn broodlords |
| 02:45.35 | Unrea1 | Haha |
| 02:45.41 | Tinman | All your CAPS are belong to us! |
| 02:45.42 | Lasion | hehe |
| 02:45.47 | vxcriss | ah, nvm I had my variable in string instead of text :| |
| 02:45.51 | Lasion | All your sleep is belong to IRC |
| 02:45.53 | vxcriss | thanks anyway |
| 02:45.54 | deathnight114 | Damn |
| 02:46.05 | deathnight114 | That defragmenting hard-disks is taking forever |
| 02:46.06 | deathnight114 | :( |
| 02:46.34 | Tinman | No shit, I have a disk thats been defragging since 1984 |
| 02:46.42 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 02:46.44 | vjeux | defragging? |
| 02:46.51 | deathnight114 | My hard drive |
| 02:46.55 | deathnight114 | One of the problems |
| 02:46.57 | vjeux | we are no more in the 90' |
| 02:46.57 | slightlyrandom | defragmentation is so windows |
| 02:46.58 | vxcriss | omg there's no way of converting text to string :| |
| 02:47.00 | vxcriss | jesus |
| 02:47.25 | Tinman | vjeux what can I say, Im old |
| 02:47.29 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, it's a bit of a pain vxcriss |
| 02:47.38 | vjeux | :p |
| 02:47.59 | deathnight114 | but... i've only had my computer for two weeks (last time it was re-formated) |
| 02:48.05 | Chainclaw | there needs to be a SC2MapTesters IRC channel |
| 02:48.06 | vailreth | hmm when ever my banshees try to refresh their cache of broodling the Turn into broodlings and attack the target them selves |
| 02:48.17 | Tinman | vjeux Shhh don't tell anyone but I am actually 21 years old and was not even born in 1984 >_> |
| 02:48.35 | vjeux | btw you should expected some changes on mapster, i'm starting to code on it from now |
| 02:48.46 | vjeux | (well, as soon as i manage to install it on my computer :P) |
| 02:48.56 | Lasion | Why would you even defrag your HD? Just pick up your PC and shake it untill things stop making noise ;D |
| 02:49.07 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 02:49.08 | Tinman | vjeux Does that change involve me in anyway, if not I will go make a burger |
| 02:49.15 | deathnight114 | It doesn't make noise anyways :| |
| 02:49.16 | vjeux | nop |
| 02:49.20 | vjeux | but i'm going to sleep :p |
| 02:49.22 | vjeux | 5am -_- |
| 02:49.38 | vxcriss | Lasion I used to punch my work computer when it was making noises, and it used to stop |
| 02:49.39 | Tinman | Not yet! its only 4:49 |
| 02:49.52 | Lasion | vxcriss, good old times, eh? |
| 02:49.54 | slightlyrandom | That works if the noice is a fan that is messing up |
| 02:50.05 | slightlyrandom | Just counter-rattle it a bit and all is well |
| 02:50.05 | vxcriss | until one day the cpu cooler ultimately detached and fell off inside of it |
| 02:50.10 | vxcriss | :D |
| 02:50.13 | Lasion | hahaha |
| 02:50.13 | Tinman | It sux if a HDD plate is broken... |
| 02:50.16 | Lasion | Ouch! |
| 02:50.24 | vxcriss | ofc I didn't tell the service guys I was punch-fixing it |
| 02:50.32 | Tinman | Those plates are SHINY! |
| 02:50.37 | Lasion | THAT would be a silly thing to do. |
| 02:50.43 | slightlyrandom | "What, these dents? Must be the cleaning lady bumping into it!" |
| 02:50.48 | Lasion | However the bulge on the side of the cabinet might reveal you.. |
| 02:50.49 | vxcriss | lol |
| 02:51.04 | Unrea1 | 0.o |
| 02:51.10 | Lasion | "I have a pet rat which repeatidly slams himself into the PC. Not my fault" |
| 02:51.23 | slightlyrandom | "NINJAS! IT WAS FRIGGIN NINJAS! |
| 02:51.49 | Tinman | Mutated Ghost Robot Ninja Turtles! |
| 02:51.59 | Lasion | Anoyone else starting to get overly tired? -.^ |
| 02:52.09 | Unrea1 | Fuck nooooooo |
| 02:52.10 | slightlyrandom | Heh, closing in |
| 02:52.18 | Tinman | I need more Monster, then I am good to go another 10 hours |
| 02:52.29 | ProzaicMuze | Energy drinks are ghey |
| 02:52.31 | slightlyrandom | I'm thinking I am just about ready to start coding, now |
| 02:52.37 | Lasion | haha |
| 02:52.55 | Lasion | You're going to wake up and go like "Worst. Coding. Ever!" |
| 02:53.18 | slightlyrandom | Or, more likely, "Omg, that's brilliant! How does it work... ?" |
| 02:53.37 | Tinman | I remember when I re-coded my vBulletin... I was so tiered I had no idea what I was doing |
| 02:53.43 | Lasion | It's like that time I woke up after a good night's party with 2 new outlets (I'm an electrician) and a halfway finished lamp on my kitchen |
| 02:54.00 | Chainclaw | did anyone here end up buying multiple copies of SC2 to easily test their own maps? |
| 02:54.19 | slightlyrandom | You can use the guest passes for a bit of testing Chainclaw |
| 02:54.27 | P_R_Deltoid | hey uhm |
| 02:54.30 | P_R_Deltoid | getting a weird error |
| 02:54.30 | Tinman | I like it when I wake up and there are hot chicks in my bed... then I wake up again... |
| 02:54.39 | P_R_Deltoid | something is showing up in galaxy script that isn't showing up in the gui |
| 02:54.45 | Chainclaw | I only have 1 PC that can run SC2, and my girlfriend is busy using her laptop |
| 02:54.47 | P_R_Deltoid | It's an Execute Trigger function call |
| 02:54.52 | P_R_Deltoid | but it isn't thgere in-game |
| 02:54.53 | P_R_Deltoid | erm |
| 02:54.55 | P_R_Deltoid | in the gui |
| 02:55.00 | slightlyrandom | You can run multiple instances of SC2 on one comp |
| 02:55.09 | Chainclaw | oh man, that's crazy |
| 02:55.13 | P_R_Deltoid | I can't exit because I can't save my progress because it's got script errors |
| 02:55.17 | P_R_Deltoid | script errors that I cannot fix |
| 02:55.20 | slightlyrandom | Crazy COOL! |
| 02:55.21 | P_R_Deltoid | because they are not showing up! |
| 02:55.30 | Chainclaw | yeah |
| 02:55.32 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, you're boned P_R_Deltoid |
| 02:55.35 | Chainclaw | I'm really tempted to buy a second copy now |
| 02:55.38 | P_R_Deltoid | fucking blizzard |
| 02:55.41 | P_R_Deltoid | how do I directly edit galaxy c ode |
| 02:55.44 | P_R_Deltoid | gonna rip this shit out |
| 02:55.49 | Tinman | P_R_Deltoid Mutated Ghost Robot Ninja Turtle is on the loose to me |
| 02:55.50 | Chainclaw | the limited edition didn't come with that paper pad |
| 02:56.11 | slightlyrandom | Chainclaw: You have two guest passes you can use, first |
| 02:56.19 | slightlyrandom | That'll last you 14 hours of testing |
| 02:56.27 | Chainclaw | yeah |
| 02:56.46 | slightlyrandom | Then you can buy a copy, sell the key and use the new guest passes |
| 02:56.49 | Chainclaw | although I know some people who want my guest passes. I think I'll hold off on any crazy multiple-copies of SC2 for a while |
| 02:56.51 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 02:56.52 | Tinman | I bought the game dirt cheap here, also had it 4 days before launch... got very sad when there was a time lock on the installer |
| 02:57.22 | slightlyrandom | Chainclaw: You don't need guest passes to play the campaign |
| 02:57.31 | Chainclaw | yeah |
| 02:57.42 | slightlyrandom | I just gave a guy my install folder on an external HD and told him to press "Play as Guest" when he got home |
| 02:58.12 | Chainclaw | crazy |
| 02:58.32 | slightlyrandom | You don't get Achievements, but, well... |
| 02:58.37 | slightlyrandom | Honestly now |
| 02:59.07 | slightlyrandom | I think achievements are one of the worst things to happen to video games since the third person shooter |
| 02:59.23 | SweetZombieJesus | why does this not work? |
| 02:59.24 | SweetZombieJesus | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:59.31 | SweetZombieJesus | the first 6 words |
| 02:59.40 | SweetZombieJesus | do i need to clear current animation or something? |
| 02:59.55 | SweetZombieJesus | or how do i make an actor play a different animation? |
| 03:00.05 | P_R_Deltoid | does galaxy script not use actual Fors? |
| 03:00.08 | slightlyrandom | Black magic and voodoo |
| 03:00.18 | SweetZombieJesus | well obviously |
| 03:00.21 | SweetZombieJesus | but im fresh out of that |
| 03:00.22 | slightlyrandom | P_R_Deltoid: There is something about Ctrl + F11 or Ctrl + D or something |
| 03:00.24 | SweetZombieJesus | so this way then |
| 03:00.29 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, slightlyrandom |
| 03:00.30 | P_R_Deltoid | for some reaosn |
| 03:00.32 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 03:00.34 | P_R_Deltoid | I remember the reason |
| 03:00.37 | P_R_Deltoid | all my f keys are broken |
| 03:00.39 | P_R_Deltoid | so I can't view script |
| 03:00.41 | P_R_Deltoid | thanks blizz |
| 03:00.44 | slightlyrandom | Then press the View key? |
| 03:00.47 | slightlyrandom | ehm, meny |
| 03:00.49 | slightlyrandom | menu* |
| 03:00.49 | P_R_Deltoid | where is that |
| 03:00.54 | slightlyrandom | Top of the screen |
| 03:01.00 | slightlyrandom | Next to File and Map and that |
| 03:01.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster Technomancer (60ff9e61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.255.158.97) |
| 03:01.14 | slightlyrandom | I dont know, but there is a button for the shortcut somewhere |
| 03:01.21 | P_R_Deltoid | do you see it in View? I don't. |
| 03:01.26 | slightlyrandom | How do you think I learned of the keyboard shortcut ? |
| 03:01.34 | slightlyrandom | Don't make me start up the editor, now |
| 03:01.49 | Technomancer | Quick question: how do I change the target effect of a weapon? (IE from fire to freeze or the like?) |
| 03:01.51 | P_R_Deltoid | there are only 12 f keys... |
| 03:01.54 | P_R_Deltoid | not hard to try them all |
| 03:02.12 | P_R_Deltoid | Found it |
| 03:02.13 | P_R_Deltoid | Phew |
| 03:02.17 | slightlyrandom | It is when yours are broken |
| 03:02.38 | slightlyrandom | Technomancer: It's on the... damage effect ? |
| 03:02.49 | slightlyrandom | Shit, can't recall :P |
| 03:02.52 | Technomancer | is that under the weapons actor or what? forgot |
| 03:02.59 | slightlyrandom | It's an effect |
| 03:03.04 | slightlyrandom | Not a weapon or an actor |
| 03:03.08 | slightlyrandom | But, well |
| 03:03.18 | slightlyrandom | Click the weapon, use the tree view in the bottom left side |
| 03:03.21 | slightlyrandom | click stuff one at a time |
| 03:03.27 | slightlyrandom | and search the lists for "Fire" |
| 03:03.29 | Technomancer | lol cheers that helps |
| 03:03.34 | P_R_Deltoid | fucking |
| 03:03.35 | P_R_Deltoid | finally |
| 03:03.38 | P_R_Deltoid | gonna restart the editor now |
| 03:03.57 | slightlyrandom | What do we say when someone helps us clean up our messes P_R_Deltoid ? |
| 03:03.58 | Lasion | Going to head to bed now.. |
| 03:04.02 | P_R_Deltoid | wait wha thte fuck is going on |
| 03:04.02 | slightlyrandom | WUSS! |
| 03:04.04 | P_R_Deltoid | it didn't edit it |
| 03:04.05 | Lasion | :P |
| 03:04.06 | P_R_Deltoid | I pressed compile |
| 03:04.12 | P_R_Deltoid | and it didn't actually edit the GUI |
| 03:04.12 | Lasion | don't make me slap you silly slightlyrandom |
| 03:04.13 | P_R_Deltoid | fuck jesus |
| 03:04.16 | P_R_Deltoid | what do I do |
| 03:04.19 | slightlyrandom | You couldn't |
| 03:04.20 | Lasion | feels the love |
| 03:04.21 | slightlyrandom | Not strong enough |
| 03:04.22 | Technomancer | you're right it was Effects - Death or somethin to that effect |
| 03:04.32 | P_R_Deltoid | thank you mr slightlyrandom :< |
| 03:04.33 | slightlyrandom | That sounds wrong Technomancer |
| 03:04.38 | slightlyrandom | That sounds like a very general effect |
| 03:04.39 | Technomancer | does it? |
| 03:04.40 | Technomancer | hmm |
| 03:04.44 | Lasion | I will make you fall in love with me and then break your heart <3 |
| 03:04.49 | slightlyrandom | Fuck |
| 03:04.51 | slightlyrandom | That's cruel |
| 03:04.53 | slightlyrandom | And it'll work, too |
| 03:04.55 | Technomancer | is it an event? |
| 03:04.55 | Lasion | Moahaha! |
| 03:04.59 | Lasion | Anyway |
| 03:05.03 | Lasion | goodnight ;) Cya tomorrow |
| 03:05.04 | slightlyrandom | No, it's definately on an effect somewhere |
| 03:05.10 | slightlyrandom | I'm pretty sure it's on the damage one |
| 03:05.29 | slightlyrandom | That's better P_R_Deltoid. That wasn't so hard now, was it? |
| 03:05.31 | Unrea1 | What kind of bullcrap is this |
| 03:05.42 | slightlyrandom | Now run along and play with the other kids |
| 03:05.45 | Unrea1 | Theres flags on units, Cannot be clicked |
| 03:05.48 | Unrea1 | But does nothing |
| 03:05.50 | Unrea1 | when checked |
| 03:05.56 | P_R_Deltoid | I dunno |
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| 03:05.57 | slightlyrandom | Well, it doesn't do what you think it does |
| 03:05.58 | P_R_Deltoid | WAS IT? |
| 03:05.59 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 03:06.06 | P_R_Deltoid | the problem isn't the function, it's the function definition |
| 03:06.07 | Unrea1 | 0.o |
| 03:06.13 | P_R_Deltoid | How triggers work in Galaxy is quite confusing |
| 03:06.14 | P_R_Deltoid | err, functions |
| 03:06.27 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, I just save myself the headache and don't use em :P |
| 03:06.31 | P_R_Deltoid | there is this function to define the function or something, and then the actual function, which has this gigantic extra part. |
| 03:06.34 | SweetZombieJesus | how do i get my Stand Unpowered animation to loop? |
| 03:06.38 | Unrea1 | So how could i make it unclickable :O |
| 03:06.39 | P_R_Deltoid | in the name |
| 03:06.39 | SweetZombieJesus | when i do Loop Forever it well.. doesnt |
| 03:06.40 | P_R_Deltoid | like |
| 03:06.43 | P_R_Deltoid | 10 more parts |
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| 03:07.06 | P_R_Deltoid | Unrea1, |
| 03:07.08 | P_R_Deltoid | unselectable |
| 03:07.14 | P_R_Deltoid | I click all the Uns, basically |
| 03:07.20 | P_R_Deltoid | for units that I want to be passive |
| 03:07.25 | P_R_Deltoid | like follow another unit or something |
| 03:07.30 | slightlyrandom | Go look at what stats a tree has |
| 03:07.33 | slightlyrandom | And copy that |
| 03:07.56 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 03:07.59 | P_R_Deltoid | I found what was causing the problem |
| 03:08.02 | P_R_Deltoid | I said Create Thread |
| 03:08.03 | slightlyrandom | That's generally how I work with the editor. Find something that works the way I want, then copy, steal and pirate those settings |
| 03:08.06 | P_R_Deltoid | but it can't do that for some reasoin |
| 03:08.09 | P_R_Deltoid | it throws errors |
| 03:08.16 | P_R_Deltoid | Wasn' |
| 03:08.20 | P_R_Deltoid | t there a tutorial on threading |
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| 03:16.22 | Tinman | With that done, ( http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/7415-ums-commentaries-sc2tinman/ ) I will go take a nap, then do some UMS Commentaries tomorrow, check the link out if you got some map recommendations or got crazy YouTube skinning skills. |
| 03:16.55 | Demo | I want to save a region to a variable, but I want to find the region that a specific unit is in. I.e. Set Region to Region Unit "" is in. Is there any way to do this? |
| 03:19.25 | Unrea1 | When Minerals run out of Minerals to Harvest does it count as a unit dying? |
| 03:22.03 | Unrea1 | ^ |
| 03:23.31 | Demo | I have no clue! |
| 03:23.58 | Demo | Could probably just do a when unit leaves region and put a region over that set of minerals |
| 03:24.04 | Demo | doubt you are killing it though |
| 03:24.21 | vailreth | i think its just removed .. |
| 03:24.27 | RodOfNOD | im not a big u2 fan but i love this song and the fact its live is awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V8nu6e8eFY&feature=related |
| 03:24.54 | Demo | I really just want to find the region a unit is in :( so I don't have to make 140 variables. |
| 03:25.23 | RodOfNOD | does the unit move demo? |
| 03:25.35 | P_R_Deltoid | bunker full of 40 helions owns |
| 03:25.42 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:25.43 | P_R_Deltoid | I want to see how it does vs like 100000 zerglins |
| 03:25.51 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:26.31 | Demo | the unit does not move |
| 03:26.40 | RodOfNOD | how is it placed? |
| 03:26.49 | Demo | before map initialization |
| 03:26.56 | RodOfNOD | how many regions |
| 03:26.56 | Demo | It already exists |
| 03:27.04 | RodOfNOD | and re they all editor generated? |
| 03:27.06 | Demo | 121 at least |
| 03:27.10 | Demo | yes |
| 03:27.18 | RodOfNOD | k what u making btw? |
| 03:27.30 | Demo | turn based strategy |
| 03:27.38 | RodOfNOD | like risk? |
| 03:27.39 | Demo | kind of like chess |
| 03:27.44 | Demo | more like chess |
| 03:27.46 | RodOfNOD | k |
| 03:27.54 | RodOfNOD | so i had a great way to do this in wc3 |
| 03:28.02 | RodOfNOD | but for some dumb reason they removed it |
| 03:28.15 | Demo | yeah I did it in sc1 without any real problem |
| 03:28.29 | RodOfNOD | are these units or buildings? |
| 03:28.34 | Demo | I mean if I have to I will save all the regions to be attached to a unit |
| 03:28.46 | Demo | They are units that are basically the checkerboard |
| 03:28.54 | RodOfNOD | k well one way to do this is |
| 03:29.03 | RodOfNOD | u set the rotation of the unit to the region # in ur array |
| 03:29.05 | Demo | the units will change color, but will not move, and there are units for every slot |
| 03:29.25 | RodOfNOD | then u make a unit group and set the CUSTOMVALUE for the unit to this same number |
| 03:29.36 | RodOfNOD | now u can get the units region number in your region index |
| 03:29.53 | RodOfNOD | of coures u have to hand create this array of regions but thats unavoidable |
| 03:30.07 | RodOfNOD | would that work? |
| 03:30.12 | Demo | If I attach a region to a unit, is there any way to get the region that is attached to the unit? |
| 03:30.36 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah, 40 helions ina bunker def owns vs zerg |
| 03:30.44 | Demo | lol Deltoid |
| 03:30.45 | AsaPhelps | reactorex spamed me with nukes so hard |
| 03:30.47 | RodOfNOD | well im not a aware of a way to get ALL regions in a map via trigger |
| 03:30.49 | RodOfNOD | but let me see |
| 03:30.50 | AsaPhelps | an invulernable unit died |
| 03:30.51 | P_R_Deltoid | I love watching zerg burn |
| 03:31.01 | Demo | I think it could work, but I'm a very novice mapper. |
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| 03:31.14 | Technomancer | question: is there any weapon that is cold based (has freezing effects and the whole shebang? |
| 03:31.51 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 03:31.57 | P_R_Deltoid | there is a freeze death ani |
| 03:31.58 | P_R_Deltoid | I think |
| 03:31.59 | P_R_Deltoid | also |
| 03:32.12 | RodOfNOD | lol reactorex |
| 03:32.13 | P_R_Deltoid | there is a slowing ability similar to what would happen with freezing weapons on the rauder |
| 03:32.15 | P_R_Deltoid | as you probably know |
| 03:32.16 | P_R_Deltoid | so |
| 03:32.20 | P_R_Deltoid | I don't know, nothing inately has it |
| 03:32.22 | P_R_Deltoid | or |
| 03:32.23 | P_R_Deltoid | innate |
| 03:32.33 | RodOfNOD | i dont see a way to get the preset regions via trigger you will have to hand assign them |
| 03:32.57 | RodOfNOD | the real question ur asking is how do we tag a region with an integer value |
| 03:33.15 | RodOfNOD | which is the same problem for every data type we have |
| 03:33.19 | RodOfNOD | i havent found a way yet |
| 03:33.20 | Demo | Yep |
| 03:33.22 | RodOfNOD | anyone else? |
| 03:33.36 | P_R_Deltoid | what are you trying to do? |
| 03:33.39 | P_R_Deltoid | oih |
| 03:33.40 | RodOfNOD | i want to atach a region to a unit or a timer to a unit |
| 03:33.41 | P_R_Deltoid | get all regions? |
| 03:33.43 | Demo | I want to go look at the guy that made the chess map, but I kind of want to figure it out on my own as well |
| 03:33.46 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 03:33.55 | P_R_Deltoid | attaching regions to units is simple |
| 03:34.05 | RodOfNOD | a unit to a region |
| 03:34.07 | Demo | right, but recalling that region that is attached to him |
| 03:34.11 | RodOfNOD | depends on how u look at it |
| 03:34.14 | Saeris | so guys, how many of you will I be competing against in the custom map contest? |
| 03:34.21 | RodOfNOD | not i |
| 03:34.28 | RodOfNOD | bliz does not drive my schedule |
| 03:34.32 | Demo | Me at least |
| 03:34.44 | Demo | this whole 1 month to finish is kind of BS but it's w/e |
| 03:34.53 | RodOfNOD | maybe if they gave me the beta in feb i would have |
| 03:35.01 | Saeris | 1 month should be plenty of time for me |
| 03:35.01 | Demo | well it's not even that |
| 03:35.47 | Saeris | I'm hoping I'll get my map working in 2 weeks, and spend the rest of the time tweaking it and making it fancy |
| 03:35.47 | Demo | Unless you have a project you've been working on without publishing or releasing it, you have to start over, so I had to put aside my other map. |
| 03:35.55 | Demo | That's what I'm doing |
| 03:36.13 | RodOfNOD | without a data table or an array how would u attach an region to a unit P? |
| 03:36.19 | RodOfNOD | P_R_Deltoid: ? |
| 03:36.27 | Demo | A lot of self made stuff, get the engine running, then balance and flashy time |
| 03:36.34 | P_R_Deltoid | what |
| 03:36.34 | Saeris | i'm glad that i've been writing down tons of ideas along the way, so I've already got a bunch of stuff going |
| 03:36.39 | P_R_Deltoid | What do you mean |
| 03:36.41 | P_R_Deltoid | "attach" |
| 03:36.42 | P_R_Deltoid | like |
| 03:36.43 | P_R_Deltoid | when he moves |
| 03:36.47 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 03:36.47 | P_R_Deltoid | the region moves with him? |
| 03:36.52 | RodOfNOD | i mean so i get an event |
| 03:36.55 | RodOfNOD | unit does x |
| 03:36.58 | P_R_Deltoid | Well problem number 1: error in communication |
| 03:37.02 | RodOfNOD | i want to know what region he is attached to |
| 03:37.09 | RodOfNOD | he is tagged to |
| 03:37.09 | P_R_Deltoid | Attached to... |
| 03:37.12 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 03:37.16 | Unrea1 | http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6404/treeb.png |
| 03:37.19 | Unrea1 | :| |
| 03:37.23 | RodOfNOD | not what one he is in |
| 03:37.27 | P_R_Deltoid | tagged to...? How about this, what is the use of this |
| 03:37.28 | RodOfNOD | but the one i have tagged him at init to |
| 03:37.37 | RodOfNOD | ok let me give u another idea |
| 03:37.40 | RodOfNOD | u have a timer |
| 03:37.44 | RodOfNOD | it involves a unit |
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| 03:37.54 | RodOfNOD | how do i tag the timer to the unit once the event quits |
| 03:37.55 | P_R_Deltoid | Why not just use a holder for regions and a holder for units initialized using the same number |
| 03:37.55 | P_R_Deltoid | ie |
| 03:38.04 | P_R_Deltoid | unit[1] = region[1] |
| 03:38.08 | P_R_Deltoid | would work fine |
| 03:38.10 | RodOfNOD | how do u get the number from the region |
| 03:38.16 | P_R_Deltoid | what |
| 03:38.16 | RodOfNOD | i can use customvalue for unit |
| 03:38.19 | RodOfNOD | but not for region |
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| 03:38.29 | P_R_Deltoid | compare custom value to region holder variable |
| 03:38.39 | P_R_Deltoid | what are you trying to do? Respawn units ? |
| 03:38.41 | P_R_Deltoid | or something? |
| 03:38.43 | RodOfNOD | regions dont have custom values |
| 03:38.47 | RodOfNOD | its for anyuthing |
| 03:38.53 | RodOfNOD | i can think of hundreds of reasons |
| 03:38.57 | RodOfNOD | ther eason does not matter |
| 03:39.13 | RodOfNOD | units have custom values so i can get the region |
| 03:39.21 | RodOfNOD | but regions dont have custom values |
| 03:39.27 | ElemenoSC | how do you create a loading screen tip and remove blizzards ones? |
| 03:39.28 | RodOfNOD | neither do most data types |
| 03:39.33 | slightlyrandom | "Don't ask PERMISSION to ask, just ask" would probably be a better MOTD |
| 03:39.41 | slightlyrandom | topic |
| 03:39.43 | slightlyrandom | something |
| 03:39.50 | RodOfNOD | hehe slightlyrandom |
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| 03:40.06 | RodOfNOD | in wc3 we had the return bug |
| 03:40.09 | RodOfNOD | so it wasnt a problem |
| 03:40.12 | RodOfNOD | but we dont have that here |
| 03:40.15 | Unrea1 | I cant figure dis shit out |
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| 03:40.27 | slightlyrandom | ElemenoSC: You're not looking to make a custom loading screen ? |
| 03:40.34 | prodiG | hey, has anyone seen this bug before? miners circle around the gesyer before entering: http://livestre.am/i1hf |
| 03:40.59 | Unrea1 | Looks like a great link to click |
| 03:41.01 | ElemenoSC | nah i just want to modify the help tip at the start |
| 03:41.17 | slightlyrandom | Come on, don't be a wuss |
| 03:41.18 | slightlyrandom | Click it! |
| 03:41.23 | slightlyrandom | It has boobies! |
| 03:41.35 | Unrea1 | Great now i have a virus |
| 03:41.39 | RodOfNOD | lol is that ur map? |
| 03:41.39 | Unrea1 | LIES |
| 03:41.41 | slightlyrandom | ElemenoSC: Poke around in the Text Editor, then, that place has all the text in the game |
| 03:41.43 | RodOfNOD | prodiG: |
| 03:42.03 | prodiG | :o |
| 03:42.04 | RodOfNOD | do u follow the problem or not P_R_Deltoid |
| 03:42.14 | P_R_Deltoid | oh, sorry, was looking at something else, 1 sec |
| 03:42.28 | RodOfNOD | i assume u dont have invisible pathing blockers there prodiG |
| 03:42.31 | prodiG | no |
| 03:42.34 | P_R_Deltoid | you need to think of something because apparently I don't really understand why you'd do this and why my solution doesn't work |
| 03:42.41 | P_R_Deltoid | an example, I mean |
| 03:42.45 | RodOfNOD | ok |
| 03:42.48 | prodiG | it only happens when i use the natural vespene geyser, not the space platform vespene geyser |
| 03:42.54 | RodOfNOD | unit enters region |
| 03:42.54 | P_R_Deltoid | custom value on unit to region holder array variable |
| 03:43.10 | RodOfNOD | i want to get the timer that is tagged to my region |
| 03:43.17 | RodOfNOD | now what do u do |
| 03:44.15 | Unrea1 | ARG |
| 03:44.22 | prodiG | any ideas o_o |
| 03:44.30 | RodOfNOD | none sorry prodiG |
| 03:44.34 | slightlyrandom | Use the space platform geyser |
| 03:44.34 | Unrea1 | My Runling Run file got deleted >.> |
| 03:44.36 | prodiG | frak |
| 03:44.38 | RodOfNOD | i have seen people ask about weird pathing |
| 03:44.43 | RodOfNOD | on miners |
| 03:44.54 | prodiG | it happens on any map i use that geyser on |
| 03:45.00 | prodiG | so it's something with the actor or it's behavior |
| 03:45.04 | slightlyrandom | prodiG: Does it do the same if you place it on a blank map ? |
| 03:45.11 | prodiG | slightlyrandom, yes |
| 03:45.15 | slightlyrandom | and no matter which side the command center is on ? |
| 03:45.23 | RodOfNOD | dont put the gas above and below |
| 03:45.25 | prodiG | it happens whenever the geyser is parallel to any side of the CC |
| 03:45.31 | prodiG | if it's diagonal to the CC it's oaky |
| 03:45.32 | RodOfNOD | is all i can suggest |
| 03:45.33 | Unrea1 | Someone HALP |
| 03:45.48 | slightlyrandom | Unrea1: Find your backup |
| 03:45.54 | Unrea1 | I cant figure out this shit with the minerals |
| 03:46.04 | RodOfNOD | what shit? |
| 03:46.23 | P_R_Deltoid | Timer...? |
| 03:46.23 | Unrea1 | When Minerals are depleted and go away |
| 03:46.28 | P_R_Deltoid | What is this timer shit? |
| 03:46.29 | AsaPhelps | anyone know the name of the icon thats money |
| 03:46.32 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:46.36 | Unrea1 | I want something to spawn off of that |
| 03:46.36 | P_R_Deltoid | Attaching a unit to a region is easy, I have no idea about timers |
| 03:46.44 | RodOfNOD | attach a region to a unit |
| 03:46.47 | RodOfNOD | is what im asking |
| 03:46.54 | P_R_Deltoid | Then your example included a timer? |
| 03:46.58 | P_R_Deltoid | What the shit is going on |
| 03:47.00 | RodOfNOD | it doesnt matter |
| 03:47.03 | RodOfNOD | ur not getting it |
| 03:47.05 | Unrea1 | The minerals dont count as a death or getting removed |
| 03:47.07 | P_R_Deltoid | Yes it does. I want to make what you are asking |
| 03:47.10 | RodOfNOD | there is a huge hole |
| 03:47.15 | P_R_Deltoid | So I can prove it's possible |
| 03:47.17 | P_R_Deltoid | soooo |
| 03:47.18 | Demo | I found a work around regardless, but it doesn't make it easier |
| 03:47.23 | P_R_Deltoid | I can't do that unless I have a practical way to do it |
| 03:47.24 | P_R_Deltoid | ie |
| 03:47.24 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:47.26 | P_R_Deltoid | something to aim for |
| 03:47.26 | RodOfNOD | ok |
| 03:47.30 | P_R_Deltoid | so give me an example, simple as can be |
| 03:47.32 | P_R_Deltoid | with no timers |
| 03:47.33 | RodOfNOD | lets give a specif ample |
| 03:47.34 | Demo | I appreciate the help though of course :) |
| 03:47.40 | P_R_Deltoid | That is what I asked for before :p |
| 03:47.47 | RodOfNOD | lets pretend im making my risk map |
| 03:47.58 | P_R_Deltoid | risk, alright |
| 03:48.00 | RodOfNOD | i have a region that has say 2 cities |
| 03:48.07 | RodOfNOD | each region has from 2-13 cities |
| 03:48.16 | RodOfNOD | but this one say solvenia = 2 cities |
| 03:48.21 | P_R_Deltoid | alright |
| 03:48.24 | RodOfNOD | each city has various things atached |
| 03:48.25 | Fromethius | unreal you lost made run ling run? |
| 03:48.29 | RodOfNOD | for example a unit |
| 03:48.35 | Fromethius | uh not sure why i typed lost there |
| 03:48.48 | P_R_Deltoid | like |
| 03:48.50 | P_R_Deltoid | a military unit |
| 03:48.50 | P_R_Deltoid | ? |
| 03:48.54 | RodOfNOD | so when a unit enters within a certain range of my barracks |
| 03:48.58 | P_R_Deltoid | is this real time risk or turn base? |
| 03:48.59 | P_R_Deltoid | d |
| 03:49.00 | P_R_Deltoid | based* |
| 03:49.02 | RodOfNOD | i want to do do soemthing |
| 03:49.04 | RodOfNOD | real time |
| 03:49.04 | Chainclaw | anyone want to give me a hand testing a map? |
| 03:49.11 | Fromethius | chainclaw what server |
| 03:49.12 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 03:49.16 | Chainclaw | US |
| 03:49.18 | P_R_Deltoid | you can do "unit comes without range" you know? |
| 03:49.19 | RodOfNOD | so event = unit enters within range of barracks |
| 03:49.20 | Fromethius | yeah i'll come |
| 03:49.20 | P_R_Deltoid | Quite easily |
| 03:49.27 | P_R_Deltoid | erm, within range |
| 03:49.28 | P_R_Deltoid | ie |
| 03:49.31 | Fromethius | fromethius.477 |
| 03:49.33 | P_R_Deltoid | doesn't use regions |
| 03:49.35 | P_R_Deltoid | and it works fine |
| 03:49.36 | RodOfNOD | so the event fires |
| 03:49.40 | RodOfNOD | however |
| 03:49.50 | P_R_Deltoid | oh, I see, that isn't the problem? |
| 03:49.53 | RodOfNOD | my barracks has a region that is used for other things |
| 03:50.00 | AsaPhelps | i'll come chain, asaphelps.371 |
| 03:50.02 | RodOfNOD | so i want to get the region that barrack has |
| 03:50.07 | Chainclaw | ok, cool |
| 03:50.08 | RodOfNOD | now this is easy |
| 03:50.12 | P_R_Deltoid | You know, RodOfNOD, when I asked for a simple example, I didn't really expect this :p |
| 03:50.15 | RodOfNOD | cuz i can tag the barracks using custom value |
| 03:50.17 | Chainclaw | I'm Chainclaw.560 |
| 03:50.30 | RodOfNOD | so i can look at custom value 1 and see it return 50 say |
| 03:50.37 | P_R_Deltoid | 50 say, sure |
| 03:50.37 | Chainclaw | SC2 doesn't play nice with being alt-tabbed a long time, have to reboot it |
| 03:50.40 | RodOfNOD | and then i can go look in a table ie an array of barracks |
| 03:50.43 | P_R_Deltoid | that is the region is belongs, to? |
| 03:50.45 | RodOfNOD | and see that the region is 50 |
| 03:50.49 | RodOfNOD | no problem |
| 03:50.54 | RodOfNOD | now heres the problem |
| 03:51.05 | RodOfNOD | i create an event that says unit enters x region |
| 03:51.13 | RodOfNOD | so one trigger with 200 events |
| 03:51.18 | RodOfNOD | one for each city region |
| 03:51.24 | RodOfNOD | cuz thats HOW i actually do it |
| 03:51.28 | RodOfNOD | i dont use within distance |
| 03:51.29 | AsaPhelps | chain are you us? |
| 03:51.33 | RodOfNOD | so now unit enters the region |
| 03:51.39 | Fromethius | yeah he is asaphelps |
| 03:51.47 | RodOfNOD | i want to find the barracks that isatached TO this region |
| 03:51.50 | RodOfNOD | how do i do this |
| 03:51.55 | RodOfNOD | there is no CUSTOM VALUE for regions |
| 03:51.56 | Chainclaw | yeah |
| 03:52.00 | RodOfNOD | like there is for units |
| 03:52.04 | Chainclaw | ok, I'm going to create the party now |
| 03:52.06 | RodOfNOD | so how do i get that value from ONLY the region |
| 03:52.06 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 03:52.16 | RodOfNOD | there is only one way i know |
| 03:52.25 | RodOfNOD | and that is to look and compare every region in my array |
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| 03:52.33 | RodOfNOD | once i find it i can then use that index just like before |
| 03:52.41 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 03:52.42 | RodOfNOD | but this is time consuming and very inelegant |
| 03:52.45 | P_R_Deltoid | I can think of one way |
| 03:52.47 | Unrea1_ | Love lagging out |
| 03:52.48 | RodOfNOD | please |
| 03:52.49 | P_R_Deltoid | you have a container of all the regions |
| 03:52.52 | P_R_Deltoid | alright? |
| 03:52.55 | P_R_Deltoid | is that too much? |
| 03:52.55 | RodOfNOD | such ass? |
| 03:53.00 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 03:53.03 | RodOfNOD | what kind of container |
| 03:53.08 | RodOfNOD | there is no region group |
| 03:53.09 | P_R_Deltoid | a region array |
| 03:53.14 | RodOfNOD | ok thats what i have |
| 03:53.14 | P_R_Deltoid | what? |
| 03:53.18 | P_R_Deltoid | alright |
| 03:53.20 | RodOfNOD | now what |
| 03:53.23 | P_R_Deltoid | then just do a for loop |
| 03:53.28 | P_R_Deltoid | region array i |
| 03:53.28 | RodOfNOD | thats what i just said |
| 03:53.29 | P_R_Deltoid | right? |
| 03:53.33 | P_R_Deltoid | and see if it's the triggering region of the vent |
| 03:53.33 | RodOfNOD | %% |
| 03:53.35 | RodOfNOD | ^^ |
| 03:53.35 | P_R_Deltoid | erm, event. |
| 03:53.43 | RodOfNOD | read what i just wrote |
| 03:53.50 | P_R_Deltoid | aw |
| 03:53.52 | RodOfNOD | thats time consuming |
| 03:54.00 | RodOfNOD | what if i have 2000 doodads |
| 03:54.01 | P_R_Deltoid | is it time consuming? |
| 03:54.06 | RodOfNOD | and i want te what region they are in |
| 03:54.18 | RodOfNOD | i have to look through 2000 doodads every time? |
| 03:54.20 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 03:54.35 | P_R_Deltoid | I suppose it is confusing in that case, although I still don't quite understand |
| 03:54.37 | RodOfNOD | in wc3 we can attach ANY data to ANY data because of return bug and then later gamecache shit |
| 03:54.41 | P_R_Deltoid | because that example was really really complex |
| 03:54.50 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 03:54.51 | RodOfNOD | well u wanted Real example |
| 03:54.52 | P_R_Deltoid | complex |
| 03:54.58 | P_R_Deltoid | I wanted a simple example |
| 03:55.03 | P_R_Deltoid | "as simple as you can make it" I said |
| 03:55.07 | P_R_Deltoid | an example I can demonstrate |
| 03:55.11 | P_R_Deltoid | but then again |
| 03:55.14 | RodOfNOD | do u get it now or do i have to come up with another? |
| 03:55.21 | P_R_Deltoid | my solution would probably not be very elegant |
| 03:55.43 | RodOfNOD | see in wc3 we could convert ANy data type handle to an integer |
| 03:56.00 | RodOfNOD | we could then take this integer and store data of any kind into a game cache think datatable |
| 03:56.08 | P_R_Deltoid | welp |
| 03:56.14 | RodOfNOD | then when the data was needed we just got that integer and voila we had our data |
| 03:56.21 | P_R_Deltoid | doesn't seem like you can at the moment in Starcraft 2, so it indeed requires a different solution |
| 03:56.37 | RodOfNOD | i believe it was in sc2 with pointers |
| 03:56.41 | RodOfNOD | but they took them out |
| 03:56.53 | RodOfNOD | thing is it would be CAKE for them to offer this too us |
| 03:57.02 | RodOfNOD | i dont get why they didnt |
| 03:57.05 | Unrea1_ | Ok back on topic from when i lagged out |
| 03:57.09 | RodOfNOD | or i HOPE im missing something |
| 03:57.14 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 03:57.18 | Unrea1_ | When a Mineral Field dies out i want a unit to spawn |
| 03:57.27 | RodOfNOD | k let me test something |
| 03:57.29 | RodOfNOD | Unrea1_: |
| 03:57.35 | P_R_Deltoid | Unit Dies: Mineral field |
| 03:57.35 | P_R_Deltoid | easy |
| 03:57.41 | P_R_Deltoid | you can even specifically point to it |
| 03:57.42 | Unrea1_ | I tried that |
| 03:57.44 | Technomancer | what does the HDR in the Actor Creation - Set Tint Color do? |
| 03:57.46 | P_R_Deltoid | DOesn't work? |
| 03:57.58 | P_R_Deltoid | Technomancer, makes it glow, I think |
| 03:57.59 | Unrea1_ | When a mineral field is removed from the game it isnt removed or dying |
| 03:58.01 | P_R_Deltoid | that is what I was told |
| 03:58.02 | Unrea1_ | >.> |
| 03:58.05 | P_R_Deltoid | weird |
| 03:58.09 | P_R_Deltoid | minerals are an odd thing |
| 03:58.11 | Technomancer | I tried doing that actor for the hellion beam |
| 03:58.15 | Technomancer | it is NOT tinting the beam D: |
| 03:58.15 | P_R_Deltoid | I tried seeing how they work, they are quite confusing |
| 03:58.20 | Demo | It tints the color of the unit to whatever color you want, HDR increases how much color you are adding. |
| 03:58.27 | P_R_Deltoid | I don't think it works quite the same on effects. |
| 03:58.42 | SweetZombieJesus | Technomancer: i couldnt get particles to tint either |
| 03:58.44 | P_R_Deltoid | I'd trust demo, I am basically talking out my ass ! |
| 03:58.51 | SweetZombieJesus | but i didnt try very long :P |
| 03:58.55 | RodOfNOD | im testing now |
| 03:59.00 | Technomancer | does Prozaicmuze have a say or is he not here the now? |
| 03:59.02 | SweetZombieJesus | the rest of the model did tint |
| 03:59.04 | Demo | Yeah particles are hard to tint, with lower settings it's not visible |
| 03:59.50 | RodOfNOD | particles are generally not part of the same tinting process |
| 03:59.55 | RodOfNOD | so i doubt u can even tint them |
| 04:00.06 | Demo | Well if you really want to take the time, change the weapon on the hellion to fire an actor, change the actors tint and win maybe :/ |
| 04:00.31 | Fromethius | chainclaw that is pretty fun |
| 04:00.34 | Fromethius | you should add more people though |
| 04:00.37 | RodOfNOD | k wellwhen the mineral died it didnt show an event so... |
| 04:00.40 | Fromethius | with like 12 people that'd be crazy |
| 04:00.42 | Chainclaw | thanks for the help, guys |
| 04:00.54 | RodOfNOD | np |
| 04:00.56 | Chainclaw | my fear with updating it to more people is a game would never start |
| 04:01.00 | RodOfNOD | glad ProzaicMuze could help |
| 04:01.31 | Chainclaw | I went with 3v3 because that would fill up more often. When I finish the map I'll probably put out a patch with more players then |
| 04:01.44 | Fromethius | yeah |
| 04:01.47 | Fromethius | i suppose |
| 04:01.56 | Fromethius | technomancer what's up? you still having problems? |
| 04:01.56 | AsaPhelps | from or chain or anyone want to help me test my map in a couple minutes? |
| 04:02.01 | Chainclaw | I'm going to fix the spawn points now, fix the starting ability points, and what else was wrong |
| 04:02.03 | Fromethius | yeah asaphelps i do |
| 04:02.04 | Chainclaw | sure, I can give you a hand |
| 04:02.12 | Fromethius | does anyone else have like.. this window when they are tired? |
| 04:02.14 | AsaPhelps | I just need to add a couple things |
| 04:02.18 | Fromethius | i was dead tired from 8 to 10 pm |
| 04:02.18 | Technomancer | no no I got the beam to show up lol |
| 04:02.24 | Fromethius | but now i'm going to be up for the next 8 hours |
| 04:02.25 | Technomancer | I am just referring to tinting the beam |
| 04:02.46 | Fromethius | technomancer you still didn't tint the beam ?? |
| 04:02.50 | Fromethius | send me your map i will fix it in 5 seconds |
| 04:02.52 | Chainclaw | ah, ok |
| 04:03.01 | Technomancer | SweetZombieJesus said he couldnt either! |
| 04:03.10 | Fromethius | sweetzombiejesus don't know shit |
| 04:03.12 | Technomancer | I did events -actorcreation - set tint color |
| 04:03.12 | Fromethius | lol jk |
| 04:03.16 | Technomancer | well it didnt work |
| 04:03.17 | SweetZombieJesus | not nice |
| 04:03.17 | SweetZombieJesus | :< |
| 04:03.19 | Fromethius | hahaha |
| 04:03.20 | SweetZombieJesus | its true though |
| 04:03.21 | Fromethius | <3 |
| 04:03.26 | AsaPhelps | does anyone know what button is like coins? |
| 04:03.28 | AsaPhelps | the icon |
| 04:03.30 | AsaPhelps | I forgot its name |
| 04:03.35 | Fromethius | yeah asaphelps i'll find it for you |
| 04:03.37 | Fromethius | gimmie a sec |
| 04:03.39 | Fromethius | i see it all the time |
| 04:03.41 | SweetZombieJesus | i knows |
| 04:03.46 | AsaPhelps | tells |
| 04:03.54 | SweetZombieJesus | chronoboost maybe? |
| 04:04.07 | Chainclaw | Let me know when you guys are ready to test. Throw out a "Chainclaw" so my IRC beeps at me |
| 04:04.57 | Fromethius | asaphelps: btn-tips-credit.dds ? |
| 04:05.09 | AsaPhelps | yeah thats it thanks |
| 04:05.12 | SweetZombieJesus | hey coins |
| 04:05.16 | SweetZombieJesus | never noticed that one |
| 04:05.24 | SweetZombieJesus | and ive been browsing through icons for the last hour |
| 04:05.31 | SweetZombieJesus | finding that perfect one for secret hero icon! |
| 04:05.34 | SweetZombieJesus | overlay |
| 04:05.40 | Fromethius | let me tell you |
| 04:05.44 | Fromethius | i have all the icons memorized pretty much |
| 04:05.56 | Fromethius | i have scrolled through every btn icon almost a hundred times now |
| 04:06.03 | Fromethius | so many custom abilities on my map |
| 04:06.07 | SweetZombieJesus | ok give me an icon that is mostly on the edges |
| 04:06.12 | SweetZombieJesus | black on the middle |
| 04:06.25 | SweetZombieJesus | cause you need to be able to see the hero icon behind it |
| 04:07.20 | Atlos | arrg wtf |
| 04:07.29 | Atlos | how is it possible that all units in a unit group die twice? |
| 04:07.39 | SweetZombieJesus | are they changeling? |
| 04:07.40 | Atlos | without units being added to it? |
| 04:07.43 | Atlos | no |
| 04:07.47 | SweetZombieJesus | infested? |
| 04:07.54 | Atlos | just overlords |
| 04:08.01 | SweetZombieJesus | then your code sucks |
| 04:08.01 | SweetZombieJesus | :P |
| 04:08.05 | Atlos | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:08.07 | Atlos | lulz |
| 04:08.16 | Atlos | it prints 2 "Test" in-game |
| 04:08.24 | Atlos | which means it's running twice |
| 04:08.29 | Fromethius | sweetzombiejesus: why not just use a blank button? completely black? i have that for one of the abilities on my map |
| 04:08.33 | Atlos | and no other unit is dieing afterwards... |
| 04:08.37 | RodOfNOD | Unrea1_: shit i thouht i had it |
| 04:08.47 | SweetZombieJesus | nah its an icon of a hero, theres a grid of hero icons |
| 04:08.51 | SweetZombieJesus | some are secret heroes |
| 04:08.51 | Unrea1_ | What? |
| 04:08.56 | RodOfNOD | i was betting there was a flag that said no death event and sure enought there was howver the mineral doesnt have that checked so.... |
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| 04:09.02 | SweetZombieJesus | and need a good indicator |
| 04:09.05 | SweetZombieJesus | but still recognizable |
| 04:09.07 | Unrea1_ | Arg.. |
| 04:09.17 | SweetZombieJesus | so gimme one mr icon expert |
| 04:09.22 | Fromethius | lol there aren't any |
| 04:09.25 | Fromethius | blizz doesn't make icons like that |
| 04:09.28 | RodOfNOD | so i have proven that the miineral indeed does die |
| 04:09.33 | SweetZombieJesus | then sir, i submit to you, that you infact dont know shit |
| 04:09.34 | RodOfNOD | so i have an idea |
| 04:09.38 | RodOfNOD | its horrid but |
| 04:09.40 | Fromethius | whatchu talking about |
| 04:09.44 | RodOfNOD | its what u could do |
| 04:09.48 | SweetZombieJesus | what use are you! |
| 04:09.50 | Fromethius | if there are none and i can't find any what do you expect me to do |
| 04:09.53 | RodOfNOD | what do u want to do when it dies again? Unrea1_ |
| 04:09.58 | SweetZombieJesus | search harder |
| 04:10.00 | Unrea1_ | Spawn a unit |
| 04:10.03 | Fromethius | it's not there! |
| 04:10.07 | SweetZombieJesus | i better not find one |
| 04:10.09 | RodOfNOD | can it spawn a second after? |
| 04:10.11 | SweetZombieJesus | or its trouble for you |
| 04:10.12 | Fromethius | oh god |
| 04:10.14 | Fromethius | no dad no! |
| 04:10.21 | Unrea1_ | It would be better if it was instant |
| 04:10.21 | SweetZombieJesus | thats right |
| 04:10.22 | Unrea1_ | But sure |
| 04:10.25 | Fromethius | IT'S GOOFY TIME! |
| 04:10.40 | RodOfNOD | well u could have a periodic that checked for all dead mineral units |
| 04:10.45 | RodOfNOD | and then spawn from there |
| 04:10.47 | SweetZombieJesus | WHAT IS THIS THEN |
| 04:10.57 | RodOfNOD | depending on what elese u have it might be ok to make it every .1 secs |
| 04:11.01 | AsaPhelps | what about the name of the doodad thats like minerals going in and being crushed on a conveyor belt, I think maybe it was the merc mission |
| 04:11.02 | SweetZombieJesus | why did you not inform me of wireframe-shields-small03 |
| 04:11.03 | SweetZombieJesus | ?????? |
| 04:11.04 | SweetZombieJesus | well |
| 04:11.17 | Unrea1_ | How would i do that :| |
| 04:11.24 | RodOfNOD | give me asec |
| 04:11.38 | Unrea1_ | kk |
| 04:11.54 | Fromethius | sweetzombiejesus i said i was an expert on btn icons |
| 04:11.57 | Fromethius | i never go past that |
| 04:12.03 | Fromethius | i have a thing for 76x76 |
| 04:12.05 | Fromethius | it's personal |
| 04:12.21 | SweetZombieJesus | you said all icons |
| 04:12.30 | SweetZombieJesus | is wireframe not an icon? |
| 04:12.39 | Fromethius | i'm sorry it won't happen again |
| 04:12.40 | Chainclaw | how can I change the pop-up description for an ability? |
| 04:12.47 | SweetZombieJesus | alright then |
| 04:13.07 | Fromethius | chainclaw what do you mean pop-up? |
| 04:13.15 | Chainclaw | when you hold the mouse over it |
| 04:13.21 | Fromethius | yeah |
| 04:13.22 | Chainclaw | when you have a character selected, like a ghost, and they have cloaking |
| 04:13.29 | SweetZombieJesus | bah its ugly |
| 04:13.31 | SweetZombieJesus | fine no icon!! |
| 04:13.31 | Chainclaw | I want those to say "Requires Abilites Level 5" |
| 04:13.38 | SweetZombieJesus | no icon overlay is pretty here i think |
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| 04:13.52 | Fromethius | chainclaw just make a requirement? |
| 04:14.00 | Chainclaw | it has the requirement |
| 04:14.01 | Fromethius | er. maybe not |
| 04:14.04 | Fromethius | yeah |
| 04:14.11 | Fromethius | just go to the button for it and change it there |
| 04:14.12 | Chainclaw | it doesn't unlock until abilities level 5, but you guys were confused about why it wasn't unlocking |
| 04:14.25 | Fromethius | the button data types and search for it |
| 04:14.34 | Chainclaw | ok, thanks |
| 04:16.00 | SweetZombieJesus | Fromethius you also a model expert? |
| 04:16.18 | SweetZombieJesus | i need something that looks like old fashioned prison bars |
| 04:16.33 | SweetZombieJesus | to put infront of my model, indicating he is unavailable |
| 04:16.46 | SweetZombieJesus | would be totally hawt |
| 04:16.50 | Fromethius | back |
| 04:16.55 | Fromethius | yeah i think i do |
| 04:16.56 | Fromethius | let me check |
| 04:17.31 | Fromethius | there was a good one in probert the probe |
| 04:17.49 | Fromethius | sc2 terran campaign introduced a lot of "old fasioned prison bars" |
| 04:18.26 | SweetZombieJesus | cant use campaign though... |
| 04:18.35 | SweetZombieJesus | only default dependencies |
| 04:18.38 | Fromethius | why not? |
| 04:18.42 | SweetZombieJesus | cause its a library |
| 04:18.48 | Fromethius | ..and? |
| 04:19.04 | SweetZombieJesus | and i dont want people to have to add a big dependency that they dont use |
| 04:19.09 | Fromethius | lol |
| 04:19.12 | Fromethius | everyone has the campaign |
| 04:19.20 | Fromethius | almost all maps on b.net have been updated with the campaign files |
| 04:19.25 | SweetZombieJesus | still |
| 04:19.28 | Fromethius | no, really |
| 04:19.32 | Fromethius | it doesn't add anything to your map |
| 04:19.35 | Fromethius | there's no reason not to add them |
| 04:19.46 | Fromethius | nexus wars, desert strike, income wars |
| 04:19.49 | Fromethius | all have campaign untis |
| 04:19.55 | waterfoul | what trigger should you use to detetct when a player creates a building |
| 04:19.56 | SweetZombieJesus | thats not the point |
| 04:20.12 | SweetZombieJesus | someone shouldnt have to add a dependency for a library |
| 04:20.33 | vailreth | i dont understand your illogic Zombie |
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| 04:20.39 | Fromethius | yeah me neither |
| 04:20.42 | Fromethius | what are you talking about |
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| 04:20.45 | Bifuu | hai |
| 04:20.49 | Fromethius | there is no adding dependencies for them to play. they just play |
| 04:20.52 | Fromethius | right bifuu? |
| 04:21.04 | Bifuu | Saeris: did you fix your aura? |
| 04:21.07 | LordAbyss | can someone explain this? i have the pokemon theme song stuck in my head |
| 04:21.08 | Bifuu | Fromethius: ? |
| 04:21.10 | LordAbyss | and i didn't listen to it |
| 04:21.13 | Fromethius | see? bifuu agrees |
| 04:21.13 | SweetZombieJesus | just find prison bars in liberty already :P |
| 04:21.26 | Fromethius | i shall not work under these extreme conditions! |
| 04:21.30 | Fromethius | fromethius! you're fired! |
| 04:21.31 | SweetZombieJesus | wuss |
| 04:21.34 | Fromethius | ok back to mapping |
| 04:21.39 | SweetZombieJesus | bah |
| 04:21.59 | waterfoul | what trigger should you use to detetct when a player creates a building\ |
| 04:22.31 | Saeris | bifuu: i'm working on it right now actually |
| 04:22.37 | Bifuu | still? lol |
| 04:22.39 | Saeris | i was out most of the day |
| 04:22.47 | Saeris | so |
| 04:22.50 | Saeris | i've gotten it to spread |
| 04:22.52 | Saeris | but |
| 04:23.11 | Bifuu | me too, i just got home from work |
| 04:23.19 | Saeris | now the problem is i need it to fall off if no units are within range of the source |
| 04:23.22 | Saeris | cuz |
| 04:23.23 | Bifuu | 10 hour work days ftw |
| 04:23.32 | Saeris | i don't want the units to get the aura, then refresh it for themselves |
| 04:23.38 | slightlyrandom | waterfoul: Unit is created |
| 04:23.42 | Saeris | it needs to fall off if the source unit isn't connected to any of them |
| 04:23.53 | Saeris | so i'm currently working on that |
| 04:24.12 | Saeris | here's kinda how it goes now |
| 04:24.29 | slightlyrandom | So, how do I make a smooth progress bar when I can't do waits smaller than 0.3 seconds ? |
| 04:25.00 | RodOfNOD | did we know this: when a unit dies and its in a unit group it is automatically removed? |
| 04:25.07 | Saeris | actually |
| 04:25.14 | RodOfNOD | a unit group variable that is? |
| 04:25.15 | Saeris | i needa look at it more to get it all straight |
| 04:25.23 | Saeris | i'm not exactly sure how i got it working |
| 04:25.24 | Saeris | lol |
| 04:25.27 | Chainclaw | brb, gonna get some more wine |
| 04:25.41 | Saeris | i'll let you know once i make some more progress |
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| 04:25.47 | Bifuu | k |
| 04:25.53 | waterfoul | slightlyrandom:thanks |
| 04:25.59 | RodOfNOD | did u know that slightlyrandom ? |
| 04:26.01 | slightlyrandom | RodOfNOD: After a wee bit, yes |
| 04:26.09 | RodOfNOD | a wee bit? |
| 04:26.14 | RodOfNOD | like how much is a swee? |
| 04:26.19 | slightlyrandom | A unit still exists while dead |
| 04:26.33 | RodOfNOD | if i make its death animation last longer? |
| 04:26.40 | slightlyrandom | Unit From Unit Group Matching condition excluding DEAD |
| 04:26.49 | slightlyrandom | That does the trick |
| 04:26.51 | RodOfNOD | no i didnt do that |
| 04:26.55 | slightlyrandom | Do that, then |
| 04:26.57 | RodOfNOD | i want it to not remove the unit |
| 04:27.04 | slightlyrandom | Aha |
| 04:27.08 | slightlyrandom | Then dont let it die |
| 04:27.13 | RodOfNOD | its a mineral |
| 04:27.17 | slightlyrandom | So ? |
| 04:27.18 | RodOfNOD | it gets mined |
| 04:27.20 | RodOfNOD | its gonna die |
| 04:27.29 | slightlyrandom | Move it when it was gonna die |
| 04:27.35 | RodOfNOD | how do i know that |
| 04:27.47 | slightlyrandom | Event Unit Dies |
| 04:27.49 | slightlyrandom | Or something |
| 04:27.51 | RodOfNOD | doesnt work |
| 04:27.59 | *** join/#sc2mapster Gao (62d3ad06@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.211.173.6) |
| 04:28.08 | RodOfNOD | if i could do that i wouldnt need to do all this other shit |
| 04:28.11 | Chainclaw | how do I disable friendly fire? |
| 04:28.23 | slightlyrandom | Well, then Event Unit is Being Removed |
| 04:28.33 | RodOfNOD | let me check that one |
| 04:28.56 | slightlyrandom | Chainclaw: Disallow their weapons to hit friendly targets |
| 04:29.01 | Gao | I need help with a SC2 map editor problem I'm having, if anyone here would know how to help me? |
| 04:29.12 | slightlyrandom | Gao: Don't ask permission to ask, just ask |
| 04:29.16 | Chainclaw | is there an easier way to do it than that? I have a lot of skills with AOEs |
| 04:29.28 | RodOfNOD | sweet slightlyrandom it works |
| 04:29.33 | slightlyrandom | You can trigger your way out of it, but that's messy |
| 04:29.38 | RodOfNOD | Unrea1_: did u read that just use unit is removed instead of dies |
| 04:29.40 | slightlyrandom | Nice |
| 04:29.46 | slightlyrandom | Now it's your turn to help me |
| 04:29.48 | Chainclaw | Also, unrelated to anything except some frustration, can someone tell me if www.lynda.com is loading for them? |
| 04:30.04 | RodOfNOD | do i really want to click on that? |
| 04:30.08 | Unrea1_ | Idk |
| 04:30.09 | Gao | Alright, just making sure I'm in the right place. I want to use the campaign units in my map, so I loaded the dependencies, right? Everything's all fine and dandy, but then I get to working on Terrain, Doodads, and Pathing, and suddenly all the campaign units are missing from the unit list. |
| 04:30.22 | RodOfNOD | no its not Chainclaw |
| 04:30.25 | Gao | It says the dependencies are loaded, so I'm really not sure what's wrong. |
| 04:30.34 | RodOfNOD | so that will work for u right Unrea1_ ? |
| 04:30.37 | Chainclaw | that sucks, my GF is trying to run through some HTML / CSS tutorials on that site and it stopped working |
| 04:30.43 | RodOfNOD | i just wrote all this code and i dont need it now for u lol |
| 04:30.51 | Unrea1_ | Tried that |
| 04:30.51 | slightlyrandom | Gao: There's a post on SC2mapster that tells you what to do, can't remember the details |
| 04:30.54 | Unrea1_ | unit is removed? |
| 04:30.58 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 04:30.59 | RodOfNOD | works |
| 04:31.01 | RodOfNOD | i just tested it |
| 04:31.14 | Gao | Oh...I looked around and couldn't find anything about my problem. I'll go check again. Thank you. |
| 04:31.21 | RodOfNOD | now of course i didnt test if u can still get the x and y values for the unit |
| 04:31.27 | slightlyrandom | Chainclaw: standard text or flash gibberish? |
| 04:31.27 | RodOfNOD | but if u cant u can prestore those in an array |
| 04:31.33 | Unrea1_ | Rod take a pic of the trigger |
| 04:31.36 | Currydevil | Ok, Arturus, if you're there... i've looked just about everywhere now and I can't seem to find a field i'm missing to get the laser beam model to show up when I attack :( |
| 04:31.36 | Unrea1_ | Im lagging so bad |
| 04:31.39 | RodOfNOD | its an event |
| 04:31.41 | slightlyrandom | Chainclaw: Because she can do google searches and get the cached sites |
| 04:31.43 | RodOfNOD | unit is removed |
| 04:31.48 | Chainclaw | HTML and CSS, so standard text. It's a site with video tutorials |
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| 04:31.53 | Unrea1_ | I get ur messaging like 20 minutes later |
| 04:32.03 | P_R_Deltoid | would a For loop that has a range of 1 to 1 not fire? |
| 04:32.07 | P_R_Deltoid | or would it fire once? |
| 04:32.09 | RodOfNOD | 1 |
| 04:32.10 | RodOfNOD | time |
| 04:32.13 | P_R_Deltoid | sweet |
| 04:32.14 | P_R_Deltoid | just as planned |
| 04:32.18 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:32.20 | P_R_Deltoid | justmaking sure I am not fucking up on computer logic |
| 04:32.24 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 04:32.49 | RodOfNOD | it always takes the first value first THEN it increments or decrements |
| 04:32.56 | slightlyrandom | Gao: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/mapping-utilities/editor-bugs-and-feedback/5275-possible-fix-for-campaign-dependency-bug/ |
| 04:33.01 | Unrea1_ | I dont see Unit is Removed |
| 04:33.06 | Gao | Thank you. |
| 04:33.07 | RodOfNOD | its there |
| 04:33.13 | slightlyrandom | Unrea1_: Open your eyes |
| 04:33.13 | Unrea1_ | I see Unit is Being Removed if that the same thing\ |
| 04:33.16 | slightlyrandom | Yes |
| 04:33.20 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 04:33.28 | slightlyrandom | Don't doubt yourself so much |
| 04:33.45 | slightlyrandom | RodOfNOD! |
| 04:33.47 | slightlyrandom | I need helpz |
| 04:34.02 | RodOfNOD | yes? |
| 04:34.08 | RodOfNOD | i was waiting for u to say what |
| 04:34.09 | Unrea1_ | Ok so then I get in game |
| 04:34.17 | slightlyrandom | I want a smoothly increasing bar, but I can't do stuff in smaller increments than 0.3 seconds |
| 04:34.18 | Unrea1_ | Use my harvesters to get it to 0 |
| 04:34.25 | Unrea1_ | And it disapears |
| 04:34.27 | RodOfNOD | what is the bar tracking |
| 04:34.28 | Unrea1_ | and nothing |
| 04:34.32 | slightlyrandom | I guess I need to move into the data editor, huh? |
| 04:34.44 | RodOfNOD | i guarantee that event fires Unrea1_ |
| 04:34.48 | RodOfNOD | i just did it |
| 04:34.57 | Currydevil | Ahahaha I fixed it,, Arturus if you see this you'll laugh at me for what I had wrong with my laser gun |
| 04:35.02 | Unrea1_ | SS |
| 04:35.05 | Chainclaw | good idea on the cached site, but unfortunately the stuff she is doing is video, and it's paid access only |
| 04:35.10 | RodOfNOD | ss what |
| 04:35.17 | Unrea1_ | The trigger |
| 04:35.24 | Unrea1_ | Either iam 100% retard |
| 04:35.27 | slightlyrandom | yes |
| 04:35.30 | Unrea1_ | fuck u |
| 04:35.31 | Unrea1_ | twice |
| 04:35.35 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:35.48 | slightlyrandom | Well, and here we sit around helping the guy |
| 04:36.08 | RodOfNOD | http://pastebin.com/SNYCji7b |
| 04:36.09 | Unrea1_ | Rod so you use the harvesters to get down the minerals and when its depleted it spawns? |
| 04:36.20 | RodOfNOD | i didnt spawn anything |
| 04:36.23 | slightlyrandom | Chainclaw: That was why I was asking whether it was text or flash/video gibberish :P |
| 04:36.25 | RodOfNOD | u have to figure that out |
| 04:36.32 | Chainclaw | yeah |
| 04:36.36 | RodOfNOD | u just take the units x and y and make a new unit in the same spot |
| 04:36.45 | RodOfNOD | triggering units x and y |
| 04:36.47 | Unrea1_ | ARG |
| 04:37.02 | Gao | It worked, thank you! I have a second question if it isn't bothering anyone...there's a unit in the editor, namely "SS_Swarm_Guardian". The model looks very nice. I assume it's one from the Lost Viking arcade game in the campaign. I wanted to see if I could use it in a map, but it turns out that I can't even select it! Is there a way to make that unit selectable? |
| 04:37.07 | RodOfNOD | slightlyrandom: what are u tracking |
| 04:37.16 | slightlyrandom | Yeah Gao |
| 04:37.22 | slightlyrandom | Compare it to a regular unit |
| 04:37.32 | slightlyrandom | (ctrl + click) |
| 04:37.34 | Chainclaw | it's back up, thanks for double checking for me. DownForEveryoneOrJustMe.com said it was up, which is weird. It's lame an expensive site like that would go down |
| 04:37.46 | slightlyrandom | Near the bottom of the attribute list, there are some flags |
| 04:37.48 | slightlyrandom | Make sure they're the same |
| 04:37.55 | RodOfNOD | there is a flag on the unit gao |
| 04:37.56 | slightlyrandom | Or, well, just copy / paste it |
| 04:37.59 | RodOfNOD | that makes it that way however |
| 04:38.24 | Gao | Oh, flags. Alright. I was a bit confused as to why it wasn't showing up in the Data Editor. |
| 04:38.24 | slightlyrandom | Chainclaw: Expensive != good, well supported or stable |
| 04:38.29 | slightlyrandom | Just look at windows |
| 04:38.32 | slightlyrandom | LOL I MADE A JOKE! |
| 04:38.33 | RodOfNOD | well no |
| 04:38.36 | Chainclaw | yeah, it's just frustrating |
| 04:38.49 | RodOfNOD | did u dependency add gao the campaign shit? |
| 04:38.54 | Gao | Yes. |
| 04:39.01 | RodOfNOD | then u should see it |
| 04:39.02 | P_R_Deltoid | what does "Active Players" mean? |
| 04:39.05 | P_R_Deltoid | Players in game? |
| 04:39.06 | RodOfNOD | if its there lol |
| 04:39.09 | P_R_Deltoid | As opposed to All PLayers |
| 04:39.10 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 04:39.11 | slightlyrandom | P_R_Deltoid: Yeah |
| 04:39.15 | P_R_Deltoid | so |
| 04:39.16 | slightlyrandom | And not neutral and not hostile |
| 04:39.17 | P_R_Deltoid | okay |
| 04:39.18 | RodOfNOD | so slightlyrandom back to ur issue |
| 04:39.23 | P_R_Deltoid | well that is kinda weird |
| 04:39.26 | RodOfNOD | wtf are u showing? |
| 04:39.28 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, I'm thinking I need to move to data land |
| 04:39.30 | AsaPhelps | chain are you available to help me test? |
| 04:39.31 | RodOfNOD | with ur bar |
| 04:39.33 | Gao | I see the unit and I can place it on the map. It's that in an actual map, I can't select the unit. |
| 04:39.36 | Gao | Like, during gameplay. |
| 04:39.40 | slightlyrandom | Power for the lauch ability thing |
| 04:39.44 | slightlyrandom | Like, Worms |
| 04:39.48 | slightlyrandom | Press a button, hold it down |
| 04:39.48 | P_R_Deltoid | RodOfNOD, you sure 1 to 1 will fire once? |
| 04:39.53 | slightlyrandom | Longer you press, further things fly |
| 04:39.55 | Chainclaw | yeah I can help test, Asa |
| 04:39.57 | RodOfNOD | yes P_R_Deltoid |
| 04:40.02 | AsaPhelps | k give me one sec to test myself |
| 04:40.05 | Chainclaw | k |
| 04:40.14 | Unrea1_ | This unit will not spawn to save my life |
| 04:40.28 | slightlyrandom | Gao: that's set in Unit - Flags in the Unit tab in the Data editor |
| 04:40.32 | RodOfNOD | how are u detecing a button is being held? |
| 04:40.47 | RodOfNOD | Unrea1_: pastebin.com your trigger |
| 04:40.48 | Gao | It's not IN the data editor, though. At least it's not when I search for it. |
| 04:40.50 | slightlyrandom | I'm spotting a click in a region, and waiting for the button to go up |
| 04:41.00 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 04:41.03 | slightlyrandom | Sure it is |
| 04:41.06 | RodOfNOD | if u can place it in the terrain it has to be |
| 04:41.10 | Gao | Oh, ha, nevermind. |
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| 04:41.17 | Gao | I was in the turrets tab this whole time... |
| 04:41.19 | Gao | Sorry, and thank you. |
| 04:41.21 | RodOfNOD | ah so not a button |
| 04:41.24 | slightlyrandom | Naw |
| 04:41.25 | RodOfNOD | just a click there? |
| 04:41.29 | slightlyrandom | Buttons only click when going up |
| 04:41.36 | slightlyrandom | Can't detect down presses |
| 04:41.39 | Saeris | alright bifuu here's what i'm thinking |
| 04:41.46 | Unrea1_ | No it spawned this time |
| 04:41.55 | RodOfNOD | so how do u dtect how longs its being held? |
| 04:41.57 | Unrea1_ | BUT IM LAGGING OUT THE BOOTY HOLE |
| 04:42.01 | Unrea1_ | I think someone is DDOSin me |
| 04:42.03 | RodOfNOD | reboot ur comp |
| 04:42.05 | waterfoul | how do I get "AI Pathing Cost Map" to be obstructed by buildings |
| 04:42.10 | Unrea1_ | FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU- |
| 04:42.12 | slightlyrandom | I do a periodic increase of a variable and stop that when the button goes up |
| 04:42.26 | Unrea1_ | And had it disabled |
| 04:42.27 | Saeris | only the source unit will have a periodic effect. all the links in the chain will only look for additional links initially and when their buff is refreshed |
| 04:42.29 | RodOfNOD | but how did u detect it went down in the first place |
| 04:42.29 | Unrea1_ | Fuck you all |
| 04:42.33 | Unrea1_ | Btw its working im just retarded |
| 04:42.39 | slightlyrandom | Key press down |
| 04:42.39 | Unrea1_ | twice |
| 04:42.41 | RodOfNOD | obviously |
| 04:42.42 | Saeris | that way they can't refresh themselves |
| 04:42.59 | Bifuu | hmm |
| 04:43.01 | RodOfNOD | so they hold down key and then what they click somewhere ? |
| 04:43.02 | Bifuu | that would work |
| 04:43.04 | slightlyrandom | Key press down, condition cursor within X,Y values, start periodic |
| 04:43.05 | Bifuu | in theory] |
| 04:43.14 | Saeris | now the problem is just getting it to work again |
| 04:43.16 | Saeris | cuz i broke it |
| 04:43.16 | slightlyrandom | Key go up, stop periodic, do shit |
| 04:43.25 | RodOfNOD | ok but u said button not key |
| 04:43.36 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, mouse "key" 1 :P |
| 04:43.44 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:43.47 | Bifuu | haha |
| 04:43.57 | RodOfNOD | well button meant dialog bud |
| 04:44.02 | RodOfNOD | or Command card shit |
| 04:44.17 | RodOfNOD | how long is the max they can hold it for? |
| 04:44.31 | slightlyrandom | 4-5 secs ? |
| 04:44.35 | slightlyrandom | Something like that |
| 04:44.43 | slightlyrandom | Haven't started tweaking values |
| 04:45.17 | slightlyrandom | I was thinking about using the Energy Bar as a power meter, though |
| 04:45.24 | RodOfNOD | can u show me a SS of ur bar? |
| 04:45.27 | slightlyrandom | and giving the unit some energy regen instead of this shizzle |
| 04:45.42 | Currydevil | Arturus, you there? |
| 04:46.05 | slightlyrandom | Sure RodOfNOD |
| 04:46.52 | RodOfNOD | so we have been told that we cant do less than .03 secs or whaever it is |
| 04:46.57 | AsaPhelps | chain can you help test now? |
| 04:47.05 | Chainclaw | yeah |
| 04:47.10 | AsaPhelps | are you online? |
| 04:47.13 | RodOfNOD | what if u made several events that all started at a random time from the initial |
| 04:47.24 | RodOfNOD | maybe they wouldnt fire exactly the same time |
| 04:47.26 | slightlyrandom | I think it's 0.3 |
| 04:47.29 | RodOfNOD | and then u could fake it |
| 04:47.34 | RodOfNOD | whatever it is |
| 04:48.01 | RodOfNOD | did u try setting timer to 0.0 ? |
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| 04:48.05 | RodOfNOD | 0 . 0 |
| 04:48.08 | P_R_Deltoid | Hmm |
| 04:48.14 | P_R_Deltoid | where is the debug stuff put |
| 04:48.18 | P_R_Deltoid | can I view it after a game? |
| 04:48.21 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 04:48.21 | P_R_Deltoid | after a test |
| 04:48.24 | P_R_Deltoid | where |
| 04:48.29 | RodOfNOD | u need to turn on ur debugger |
| 04:48.33 | RodOfNOD | under preferences |
| 04:48.38 | P_R_Deltoid | Where it saved to, though |
| 04:48.40 | P_R_Deltoid | I have the debugger on |
| 04:49.00 | P_R_Deltoid | my game is breaking and it's hard to look at when it lags so bad, I want to see it when it's not lagging so bad |
| 04:49.03 | RodOfNOD | u have the window open? |
| 04:49.07 | slightlyrandom | <img src="http://imgur.com/P1P0o.jpg" alt="" title="Hosted by imgur.com" /> |
| 04:49.11 | P_R_Deltoid | Not anymore, because the game is lagging badly |
| 04:49.24 | RodOfNOD | no i mean u have the debugger window open when running? |
| 04:49.27 | slightlyrandom | heh |
| 04:49.35 | P_R_Deltoid | Yes? |
| 04:49.40 | P_R_Deltoid | The output and all that business? |
| 04:49.43 | RodOfNOD | so it should be there unless u close |
| 04:49.44 | slightlyrandom | Just click the thing, and start scrolling |
| 04:49.48 | P_R_Deltoid | I told you |
| 04:49.50 | slightlyrandom | That'll pause your game |
| 04:49.51 | P_R_Deltoid | when you close the game |
| 04:49.53 | Coolflip | Is there any reason why my editor takes like 20 seconds to do anything simple |
| 04:49.58 | RodOfNOD | run ur game in a window |
| 04:49.58 | P_R_Deltoid | it goes away |
| 04:50.03 | P_R_Deltoid | Okay |
| 04:50.06 | P_R_Deltoid | You are not understanding |
| 04:50.06 | slightlyrandom | Coolflip: How big is your map ? |
| 04:50.07 | P_R_Deltoid | there are literallyt |
| 04:50.12 | P_R_Deltoid | like 20000 zerglings on screen |
| 04:50.13 | P_R_Deltoid | because of a bug |
| 04:50.16 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:50.18 | P_R_Deltoid | and I can't debug when everything is laggy |
| 04:50.20 | P_R_Deltoid | at all |
| 04:50.24 | P_R_Deltoid | I can't evne see what is going on |
| 04:50.27 | slightlyrandom | P_R_Deltoid: Start scrolling in the debug window |
| 04:50.29 | RodOfNOD | so u want to save it |
| 04:50.29 | P_R_Deltoid | and it keeps adding more shit to the list |
| 04:50.33 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 04:50.33 | RodOfNOD | not sure u can save it |
| 04:50.37 | slightlyrandom | It'll pause your game |
| 04:50.39 | slightlyrandom | PAUSE THE FUCKING GAME! |
| 04:50.42 | P_R_Deltoid | slightlyrandom, too laggy, it'll zoom paste what I want |
| 04:50.48 | slightlyrandom | F10 |
| 04:50.52 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec, might still be too laggy |
| 04:50.54 | P_R_Deltoid | f keys are broken |
| 04:50.55 | P_R_Deltoid | fyi |
| 04:51.01 | P_R_Deltoid | but I will try just pausing |
| 04:51.01 | slightlyrandom | Click Menu, then |
| 04:51.06 | P_R_Deltoid | I still think it'll lag |
| 04:51.07 | P_R_Deltoid | I know how to pause dude |
| 04:51.12 | slightlyrandom | Awesome |
| 04:51.23 | Unrea1 | Rod |
| 04:51.37 | Unrea1 | How could i specify 1 unit out of those |
| 04:51.45 | slightlyrandom | Do something fancy with regions |
| 04:52.04 | RodOfNOD | ok so u are using the dialog progress bar slightlyrandom ? |
| 04:52.28 | RodOfNOD | out of what Unrea1 ? |
| 04:52.39 | Unrea1 | So say i have 3 minerals |
| 04:52.39 | P_R_Deltoid | man |
| 04:52.44 | slightlyrandom | Well, I was until I saw how poor the updating wa |
| 04:52.45 | slightlyrandom | s |
| 04:52.46 | Unrea1 | And i have Unit is being removed |
| 04:52.50 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 04:52.53 | slightlyrandom | Triggering Unit |
| 04:52.54 | Unrea1 | And then i want something to spawn |
| 04:52.55 | P_R_Deltoid | fuck |
| 04:52.58 | slightlyrandom | Location of Trriggering Unit |
| 04:52.59 | P_R_Deltoid | what the shit is going on with this trigger |
| 04:53.08 | slightlyrandom | Paste it P_R_Deltoid |
| 04:53.09 | RodOfNOD | what slightlyrandom said |
| 04:53.26 | Unrea1 | Condition? |
| 04:53.38 | P_R_Deltoid | http://pastebin.com/j10xsbkK |
| 04:53.46 | P_R_Deltoid | Just assume UnitTypeSpawned is a zergling |
| 04:53.59 | P_R_Deltoid | and the ranges are like 1 to 15 |
| 04:54.02 | slightlyrandom | No Unrea1 |
| 04:54.05 | slightlyrandom | Grab the location of the triggering unit |
| 04:54.13 | slightlyrandom | triggering unit is the one being removed, in your case |
| 04:54.23 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh, and number of players is 1 |
| 04:54.29 | P_R_Deltoid | Number of Players, the variable on the Fore loop. |
| 04:54.32 | P_R_Deltoid | erm, For |
| 04:54.35 | P_R_Deltoid | it creates literally like |
| 04:54.41 | P_R_Deltoid | 1000 zerglings |
| 04:54.46 | P_R_Deltoid | when it should create... |
| 04:54.47 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:54.47 | P_R_Deltoid | like 3? |
| 04:54.47 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:55.13 | Unrea1 | I tried Position of Triggering Unit |
| 04:55.19 | RodOfNOD | whats the event P_R_Deltoid |
| 04:55.31 | P_R_Deltoid | It's a function, the event is a periodic timer |
| 04:55.35 | RodOfNOD | ok unreal i wil have to test |
| 04:55.35 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 04:55.38 | RodOfNOD | k |
| 04:55.50 | P_R_Deltoid | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:56.05 | slightlyrandom | P_R_Deltoid: Was gonna ask how you call this thing |
| 04:56.15 | slightlyrandom | Are you getting spammed with text as well as zerglings ? |
| 04:56.21 | P_R_Deltoid | I would respond "periodically" |
| 04:56.22 | P_R_Deltoid | no |
| 04:56.25 | P_R_Deltoid | surprisingly |
| 04:56.26 | P_R_Deltoid | no text |
| 04:56.33 | P_R_Deltoid | it is not looping infinitely |
| 04:56.35 | slightlyrandom | at all ? |
| 04:56.39 | P_R_Deltoid | at least, not where I put debug messages |
| 04:56.41 | P_R_Deltoid | Nothing |
| 04:56.42 | slightlyrandom | Or not text beyond what you'd expect |
| 04:56.47 | P_R_Deltoid | 00:00:28.69 Zerglings |
| 04:56.47 | P_R_Deltoid | 00:00:28.69 Spawn Function Starting |
| 04:56.47 | P_R_Deltoid | 00:00:28.69 1 |
| 04:56.47 | P_R_Deltoid | 00:00:28.69 Spawn Function Loop |
| 04:56.56 | P_R_Deltoid | that is the entire function firing that created those 1000 zerglings |
| 04:56.59 | P_R_Deltoid | those are the debug messages |
| 04:57.05 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 04:57.11 | P_R_Deltoid | the game freezes for a good 30 seconds |
| 04:57.15 | P_R_Deltoid | could be that error codes are getting by |
| 04:57.42 | P_R_Deltoid | "Average Run Time: 51467ms" |
| 04:57.44 | slightlyrandom | Have you tried removing the loop in there? |
| 04:57.48 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 04:57.48 | slightlyrandom | Just spawning one zergling |
| 04:57.49 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec |
| 04:57.56 | slightlyrandom | Do some simple shit |
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| 04:58.09 | tordecybombo | anyone actually use the turn off trigger action before? |
| 04:58.24 | P_R_Deltoid | good idea |
| 04:58.27 | P_R_Deltoid | but damn |
| 04:58.28 | RodOfNOD | wow |
| 04:58.29 | slightlyrandom | RodOfNOD: Well, I think the Energy Bar and Energy Regen might be the way to go, assuming I can customize the bar a bit |
| 04:58.30 | P_R_Deltoid | it seems so straight forward |
| 04:58.34 | slightlyrandom | tordecybombo: Yes |
| 04:58.44 | P_R_Deltoid | can't think of where it went wrong |
| 04:58.46 | RodOfNOD | it appears that unit is removed doesnt actually give the triggering unit |
| 04:58.49 | tordecybombo | it's the best action ever, why didnt i use them sooner |
| 04:58.54 | RodOfNOD | so wtf good is it |
| 04:59.10 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 04:59.11 | P_R_Deltoid | still does it |
| 04:59.11 | slightlyrandom | That's bloody annoying |
| 04:59.18 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 04:59.19 | P_R_Deltoid | ohhh |
| 04:59.20 | P_R_Deltoid | hmmm |
| 04:59.25 | P_R_Deltoid | still does it without the loop |
| 04:59.28 | slightlyrandom | P_R_Deltoid: You arent running a different trigger that does this, are you? |
| 04:59.30 | P_R_Deltoid | it's the range, I think |
| 04:59.47 | P_R_Deltoid | What, slightlyrandom ? |
| 04:59.50 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 04:59.52 | P_R_Deltoid | For the test? |
| 05:00.07 | slightlyrandom | But yeah, remove all the fancy stuff, make it spawn 1 zergling |
| 05:00.20 | P_R_Deltoid | Why would that cause any problems...? |
| 05:00.21 | P_R_Deltoid | :| |
| 05:00.22 | slightlyrandom | If it can't do that right, send it to the naughty corner |
| 05:00.28 | P_R_Deltoid | hmmm |
| 05:00.28 | RodOfNOD | wow i cant believe that blizzard is so stupid |
| 05:00.31 | slightlyrandom | and stop using functions |
| 05:01.04 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah, that is probably a good idea |
| 05:01.13 | Unrea1 | http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_514&products_id=23820 |
| 05:01.15 | Unrea1 | Gawd damn |
| 05:01.44 | RodOfNOD | http://pastebin.com/BiHg0sWP |
| 05:01.50 | RodOfNOD | so thats what i did |
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| 05:01.52 | RodOfNOD | and i see removed |
| 05:01.57 | P_R_Deltoid | welp, it isn't the Spawn Unit function that is causing the problem |
| 05:01.57 | Coolflip | Herro again |
| 05:02.02 | RodOfNOD | but i see no unit type and i dont even see the damn ling |
| 05:02.05 | tordecybombo | so what's the best alternative for checking if a player left? besides checking every second |
| 05:02.06 | Coolflip | Is there a way to call an imported sound? |
| 05:02.08 | Unrea1 | Yea |
| 05:02.25 | slightlyrandom | Coolflip: Make a sound in the data editor |
| 05:02.31 | slightlyrandom | And use your imported sound |
| 05:02.34 | RodOfNOD | oh wait i see the ling |
| 05:02.38 | RodOfNOD | its bottom left 0.0 of course |
| 05:02.41 | Coolflip | Wait what? |
| 05:02.45 | slightlyrandom | tordecybombo: Nothing |
| 05:02.51 | tordecybombo | damn :/ |
| 05:02.53 | Coolflip | I imported a sound called VictoryLoss.mp5 |
| 05:02.56 | RodOfNOD | add ur own sound |
| 05:02.59 | Coolflip | .mp3 |
| 05:03.01 | RodOfNOD | into the data part |
| 05:03.05 | Coolflip | How |
| 05:03.08 | slightlyrandom | Coolflip: Data Editor -> Sound |
| 05:03.10 | Unrea1 | Rod |
| 05:03.10 | Unrea1 | http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1324/97474503.jpg |
| 05:03.11 | slightlyrandom | New Object |
| 05:03.13 | Coolflip | Wow |
| 05:03.14 | Unrea1 | Managed to get something |
| 05:03.15 | Coolflip | Thanks |
| 05:03.20 | tordecybombo | are there any limitations for sounds? |
| 05:03.27 | tordecybombo | like max file sizes |
| 05:03.33 | tordecybombo | ignoring the publication limits |
| 05:03.37 | RodOfNOD | yes that will work but of course not what u want Unrea1 |
| 05:03.38 | AsaPhelps | is there a way to make a requirement this or that |
| 05:03.44 | AsaPhelps | like requires: barracks or commander center |
| 05:03.59 | Unrea1 | I cant figure out any other decent way |
| 05:04.00 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 05:04.10 | P_R_Deltoid | wait |
| 05:04.11 | RodOfNOD | COUNT of said unit = 1 or > 1 |
| 05:04.11 | P_R_Deltoid | wait |
| 05:04.12 | P_R_Deltoid | whoa |
| 05:04.14 | slightlyrandom | Unrea1: Well, you may have to fall back to Unit Property Changes |
| 05:04.15 | P_R_Deltoid | I think... |
| 05:04.16 | RodOfNOD | depending on what u want |
| 05:04.18 | P_R_Deltoid | I think I just fucked myself |
| 05:04.23 | P_R_Deltoid | in the similest way possible |
| 05:04.28 | P_R_Deltoid | I think I switched the high and low range |
| 05:04.36 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 05:04.38 | slightlyrandom | Awesome |
| 05:04.54 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 05:04.54 | P_R_Deltoid | I did |
| 05:04.57 | P_R_Deltoid | let me see if this fixes it |
| 05:04.58 | P_R_Deltoid | ugh |
| 05:05.53 | RodOfNOD | wtf is blizzard removing dead units |
| 05:05.58 | RodOfNOD | from my unit group |
| 05:06.07 | slightlyrandom | Bah, now I need to customize the UI bars on the units a fair bit |
| 05:06.16 | slightlyrandom | Yes they are RodOfNOD |
| 05:06.29 | RodOfNOD | theya re what/ |
| 05:06.41 | slightlyrandom | removing dead units from your unit group |
| 05:06.49 | RodOfNOD | i know im asking WHY |
| 05:07.00 | slightlyrandom | wtf = what the fuck |
| 05:07.05 | slightlyrandom | not why the fuck |
| 05:07.10 | RodOfNOD | not to me |
| 05:07.27 | slightlyrandom | Streetlingo is useless if we don't agree on what it means |
| 05:07.41 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 05:07.43 | Nesetalis | and FTW means Fuck the world and for the win |
| 05:07.50 | Currydevil | Arturus, are ya there? |
| 05:07.54 | slightlyrandom | Anyway, I think it's to help you out so you don't issue attack orders to dead stuff |
| 05:08.17 | RodOfNOD | lol yes but a good coder just removes them |
| 05:08.19 | slightlyrandom | Our count the amount of units still in a group, and go WTF when you see 1000 and have none |
| 05:08.25 | slightlyrandom | -u |
| 05:08.47 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 05:08.50 | slightlyrandom | RodOfNOD: the Unit Dies event is not to be over used |
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| 05:09.04 | RodOfNOD | why not? |
| 05:09.07 | slightlyrandom | Lag |
| 05:09.29 | RodOfNOD | either it lags for one event or it lags for hundreds |
| 05:09.31 | slightlyrandom | Grrr, can't customize these at all |
| 05:09.46 | slightlyrandom | Silly bars |
| 05:09.53 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 05:10.03 | Chainclaw | AsaPhelps, check out Galaxy Trucker the board game. Let me find a youtube |
| 05:10.10 | slightlyrandom | I could use Cargo Bars, but then I am basically back to square one |
| 05:10.11 | SweetZombieJesus | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.13 | RodOfNOD | how bout a reverse death timer on the unit slightlyrandom |
| 05:10.14 | SweetZombieJesus | how does this work =/ |
| 05:10.21 | slightlyrandom | Hmmmmm |
| 05:10.24 | SweetZombieJesus | as soon as i use setheight |
| 05:10.26 | SweetZombieJesus | the actor is gone |
| 05:10.37 | SweetZombieJesus | even when i use setheight 0, its relative height |
| 05:10.38 | slightlyrandom | Well, problem is I want some markers to show when to release the button |
| 05:10.52 | slightlyrandom | You know, 15 lines to determine that from |
| 05:11.03 | Chainclaw | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Aa0xHn9II |
| 05:11.11 | Chainclaw | someone should make a map based on that youtube |
| 05:11.16 | RodOfNOD | u could put up a tempory dialog above the unit as long as its selected inside the actual console? |
| 05:11.22 | slightlyrandom | SweetZombieJesus: Set Height is absolute, not relative |
| 05:11.29 | SweetZombieJesus | it says specfically relative |
| 05:11.36 | SweetZombieJesus | theres like 4 different set heights |
| 05:11.39 | SweetZombieJesus | some absolute and some rela |
| 05:11.47 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 05:11.49 | slightlyrandom | fair |
| 05:11.59 | RodOfNOD | i have a problem with ur theory slightlyrandom |
| 05:12.11 | RodOfNOD | if unit groups cant contain dead units then why do they have that as an exclusion |
| 05:12.42 | SweetZombieJesus | Chainclaw i just might :o |
| 05:12.43 | slightlyrandom | Unit Group (Units Within Region) |
| 05:12.48 | SweetZombieJesus | looks cool and very triggery |
| 05:12.52 | SweetZombieJesus | which i likes |
| 05:12.55 | slightlyrandom | Unit Groups are more than variables |
| 05:13.07 | RodOfNOD | ok but we just said |
| 05:13.08 | Chainclaw | I always like games where you build something, then send it through an obstacle course to see what happens |
| 05:13.15 | RodOfNOD | a dead unit gets removed from a group right? |
| 05:13.27 | slightlyrandom | A variable group, yes |
| 05:13.28 | RodOfNOD | so then why do we have an exclusion option when creating a unitgroup? |
| 05:13.35 | RodOfNOD | for dead units |
| 05:13.45 | RodOfNOD | why exclude something that cant be in the group? |
| 05:13.46 | slightlyrandom | Why am I discussing this with you? |
| 05:13.57 | RodOfNOD | idk im trying to figure this out |
| 05:13.59 | RodOfNOD | ::P |
| 05:14.00 | slightlyrandom | I don't know what the hell they were smoking when they made this program |
| 05:14.06 | RodOfNOD | ok good |
| 05:14.10 | RodOfNOD | we on the same page |
| 05:14.31 | slightlyrandom | I know how that particular bit of code works, though, and I've used it to great effect |
| 05:14.47 | slightlyrandom | So, I am not mad about it working that way |
| 05:15.15 | slightlyrandom | RodOfNOD: You could make a trigger that adds dying units to their group again |
| 05:15.22 | RodOfNOD | i cant |
| 05:15.28 | RodOfNOD | it literally doesnt see them |
| 05:15.35 | RodOfNOD | i guess i could TRY an array |
| 05:15.36 | slightlyrandom | What? |
| 05:15.43 | slightlyrandom | Event Unit Dies, triggering unit |
| 05:15.45 | RodOfNOD | thats the option |
| 05:15.54 | RodOfNOD | it doesnt SEE that event |
| 05:15.55 | RodOfNOD | remember? |
| 05:15.57 | SweetZombieJesus | HALP |
| 05:15.59 | RodOfNOD | for minerals |
| 05:15.59 | slightlyrandom | no |
| 05:16.02 | SweetZombieJesus | how do i set a actors height |
| 05:16.05 | slightlyrandom | Oh, that problem |
| 05:16.08 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:16.09 | SweetZombieJesus | i cant do it |
| 05:16.13 | SweetZombieJesus | without trigger only! |
| 05:16.14 | SweetZombieJesus | wityh |
| 05:16.17 | SweetZombieJesus | with*** |
| 05:16.17 | slightlyrandom | How about Unit Property Changes |
| 05:16.20 | SweetZombieJesus | fuck im too tired |
| 05:16.24 | RodOfNOD | yes thats what u do |
| 05:16.27 | SweetZombieJesus | actor |
| 05:16.28 | SweetZombieJesus | not unit |
| 05:16.28 | RodOfNOD | unit property |
| 05:16.43 | slightlyrandom | I was adressing Rod's problem |
| 05:16.48 | SweetZombieJesus | =/ |
| 05:16.52 | slightlyrandom | Fuck you SweetZombieJesus |
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| 05:17.05 | SweetZombieJesus | why would you say that |
| 05:17.19 | RodOfNOD | when then it would fire on every time a mineral was eaten for pickup right? |
| 05:18.34 | Saeris | man, now i can't get this working again |
| 05:18.35 | Saeris | fuck |
| 05:18.37 | Saeris | >.< |
| 05:18.40 | slightlyrandom | Condition, changes to below 0 |
| 05:18.50 | RodOfNOD | still fires |
| 05:18.53 | slightlyrandom | Yes |
| 05:18.57 | RodOfNOD | but yes it looks like only issue |
| 05:19.01 | RodOfNOD | only way to solve it |
| 05:19.01 | slightlyrandom | Fires, checks and fails |
| 05:19.39 | slightlyrandom | SweetZombieJesus: So, the actor message doesn't work at all? |
| 05:19.50 | slightlyrandom | Tried silly values ? |
| 05:19.55 | SweetZombieJesus | im trying this one now |
| 05:19.56 | slightlyrandom | -100, +100 ? |
| 05:20.05 | SweetZombieJesus | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:20.12 | SweetZombieJesus | its also relative height |
| 05:20.15 | SweetZombieJesus | but with 2 values |
| 05:20.17 | SweetZombieJesus | so im confused |
| 05:20.20 | slightlyrandom | heh |
| 05:20.42 | SweetZombieJesus | and when i set them both to 1 they x,y get changes |
| 05:20.43 | SweetZombieJesus | not z |
| 05:20.43 | slightlyrandom | Set to value 1, relative to value 2 |
| 05:20.43 | SweetZombieJesus | O_O |
| 05:20.43 | slightlyrandom | :D |
| 05:20.44 | SweetZombieJesus | this thing is lying |
| 05:20.48 | SweetZombieJesus | its not height at all |
| 05:21.17 | SweetZombieJesus | i can set absolute height just fine |
| 05:21.22 | SweetZombieJesus | but that doesnt help me >_< |
| 05:21.26 | slightlyrandom | How about removing the actor and making a new one ? |
| 05:21.28 | SweetZombieJesus | it needs to be the same height as a point |
| 05:21.37 | SweetZombieJesus | nah the actor is set on the position of a unit |
| 05:21.41 | SweetZombieJesus | wait |
| 05:21.42 | slightlyrandom | What are you trying to do here ? |
| 05:21.50 | SweetZombieJesus | i can attach the actor to the unit's head |
| 05:21.59 | tordecybombo | hi |
| 05:22.08 | SweetZombieJesus | im making a big fat red neon sign infront of a unit that is flagged as unavailable |
| 05:22.10 | slightlyrandom | That's probably the right way to do it |
| 05:22.20 | SweetZombieJesus | but 0 height of the sign means its half in the ground |
| 05:22.40 | SweetZombieJesus | attaching stuff owns |
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| 05:22.45 | SweetZombieJesus | crazy shit you can make |
| 05:22.47 | SweetZombieJesus | so easely |
| 05:23.05 | slightlyrandom | I guess I need to attack a proper progress bar, then |
| 05:23.09 | slightlyrandom | attach* |
| 05:23.20 | SweetZombieJesus | you know i think i am going to make something like that youtube vid that was just linked |
| 05:23.26 | SweetZombieJesus | custom space ship + site operations |
| 05:23.29 | SweetZombieJesus | = win? |
| 05:23.53 | Chainclaw | AsaPhelps is working on a map kind of like that |
| 05:24.10 | SweetZombieJesus | competition is healthy |
| 05:24.27 | SweetZombieJesus | but i wont start any time soon :P |
| 05:24.30 | SweetZombieJesus | no time |
| 05:24.42 | Chainclaw | have you ever played that board game? It's amazing for a few games |
| 05:25.39 | RodOfNOD | wow |
| 05:25.45 | RodOfNOD | ur not gonna believe this slightlyrandom |
| 05:25.53 | slightlyrandom | I will, I will |
| 05:26.05 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.05 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.07 | RodOfNOD | do not fire |
| 05:26.10 | RodOfNOD | with minerals |
| 05:26.16 | slightlyrandom | Sounds reasonable |
| 05:26.22 | RodOfNOD | why? |
| 05:26.49 | RodOfNOD | sounds reasonable that blizzard is still trying to fuck me |
| 05:26.56 | slightlyrandom | So, we're down to Unit Uses Ability, now ? |
| 05:27.01 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:27.06 | slightlyrandom | This is pretty sad |
| 05:27.09 | RodOfNOD | god that is so bad |
| 05:27.12 | slightlyrandom | hahaha |
| 05:27.20 | SweetZombieJesus | uhm where are model variations hidden? |
| 05:27.20 | slightlyrandom | That's the most retarded hack ever |
| 05:27.22 | RodOfNOD | we could also do |
| 05:27.28 | SweetZombieJesus | i know there are 4 variations but i cant find where they are |
| 05:27.31 | RodOfNOD | unit is gone cuz its GONE |
| 05:27.37 | slightlyrandom | Unit Uses Ability Gather, then adjust an integer array |
| 05:27.41 | RodOfNOD | however we checked before hand and saved all the xy positions |
| 05:27.49 | RodOfNOD | and then we have a boolean to flag it |
| 05:27.50 | slightlyrandom | and check for the array reaching 0 |
| 05:27.54 | RodOfNOD | once we remove it |
| 05:28.07 | Fromethius | anyone creative on? i need some adjectives for my siege tanks upgrades. it needs to be Siege Tank -> ADJECTIVE Siege Tank -> ADJECTIVE Siege Tank -> Siege Breaker |
| 05:28.10 | RodOfNOD | i think that would be way more intensive |
| 05:28.16 | RodOfNOD | than what im suggesting |
| 05:28.18 | slightlyrandom | MASSIVE, AWESOME, UBER |
| 05:28.23 | slightlyrandom | Imperial |
| 05:28.28 | slightlyrandom | Brutal |
| 05:28.33 | Fromethius | imperial sounds good |
| 05:28.35 | slightlyrandom | What kind of words we looking for here ? |
| 05:28.52 | RodOfNOD | why all those tanks |
| 05:28.53 | Fromethius | siege tank -> adjective siege tank -> imperial siege tank -> siege breaker |
| 05:28.55 | RodOfNOD | and then breaker |
| 05:28.55 | slightlyrandom | It's easier if you pick a class, and run with it |
| 05:28.57 | Fromethius | they're upgrades |
| 05:29.09 | RodOfNOD | why not siege tank breaker |
| 05:29.17 | Fromethius | lol.. |
| 05:29.21 | RodOfNOD | or siege juggernaught |
| 05:29.25 | slightlyrandom | Like, my towers go from Rickety to Shoddy to Sturdy to Reinforced to Indomitable :P |
| 05:29.25 | Fromethius | that's ok |
| 05:29.26 | tordecybombo | siege sieger |
| 05:29.28 | RodOfNOD | and siege imperial |
| 05:29.39 | Fromethius | that doesn't sound good |
| 05:29.43 | RodOfNOD | ur towers? u cube td theif???? :P hehe |
| 05:29.43 | Fromethius | adjectives are better |
| 05:29.49 | slightlyrandom | Hey! |
| 05:29.50 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 05:29.50 | RodOfNOD | thief |
| 05:29.54 | slightlyrandom | Yeah yeah |
| 05:29.58 | RodOfNOD | well done btw |
| 05:30.01 | slightlyrandom | I'm thieving another game, now |
| 05:30.04 | RodOfNOD | except for that probbly blizzards bug |
| 05:30.08 | slightlyrandom | Moonbase Commander |
| 05:30.11 | RodOfNOD | ooh |
| 05:30.14 | RodOfNOD | never played it |
| 05:30.18 | RodOfNOD | but its has a good adjective |
| 05:30.19 | slightlyrandom | It's pretty awesome |
| 05:30.20 | RodOfNOD | :> |
| 05:30.27 | slightlyrandom | Starbase Commander, I'm thinking |
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| 05:30.32 | slightlyrandom | I'm so creative! |
| 05:30.35 | RodOfNOD | moonbase alpha |
| 05:30.43 | Fromethius | slightlyrandom moar adjectives gogo |
| 05:30.43 | RodOfNOD | then u could do this space 1999 theme |
| 05:30.48 | slightlyrandom | ^^ |
| 05:30.48 | RodOfNOD | ive always wanted to do that |
| 05:30.53 | ElemenoSC | how long does it take for a map to show up in create/join once you upload it |
| 05:30.59 | RedWraith | How hard is it to make cinematics, guys? |
| 05:31.00 | RodOfNOD | 5 seconds |
| 05:31.19 | slightlyrandom | Well, if you like Imperial, run with Royal, King's, stuff like that |
| 05:31.19 | RodOfNOD | thats a tough question |
| 05:31.31 | RodOfNOD | are u shooting porn or a full length feature film? |
| 05:31.37 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 05:31.42 | RodOfNOD | jack queen king siege |
| 05:31.50 | slightlyrandom | Hey, full length feature porn! |
| 05:31.55 | RodOfNOD | and of course ace siege |
| 05:31.57 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 05:32.02 | slightlyrandom | Poker TD |
| 05:32.03 | RodOfNOD | ah the best kind slightlyrandom |
| 05:32.07 | ElemenoSC | 5seconds to show up? mines been up for over an hour still nothing.. i can search for it but its not showing up in the custom list |
| 05:32.17 | slightlyrandom | ElemenoSC: Gone down far enough? |
| 05:32.18 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:32.22 | ElemenoSC | yes |
| 05:32.25 | RodOfNOD | u mean in THE list? |
| 05:32.26 | RodOfNOD | dream on |
| 05:32.30 | slightlyrandom | It's probably somewhere on page 80 |
| 05:32.32 | RodOfNOD | its there |
| 05:32.33 | Unrea1 | Just got back |
| 05:32.35 | RodOfNOD | but gl |
| 05:32.36 | RedWraith | RodOFN0D, a full length feature porn. |
| 05:32.39 | slightlyrandom | Did you publish it as Public of Private ? |
| 05:32.40 | Unrea1 | I want to ram my head into a wall |
| 05:32.49 | RodOfNOD | well Unrea1 |
| 05:32.52 | RodOfNOD | we are with u |
| 05:32.55 | slightlyrandom | Because Private won't get on that list |
| 05:32.57 | RodOfNOD | bliz has made it really tough |
| 05:33.03 | slightlyrandom | Wait, was all this to help out Unrea1 ? |
| 05:33.03 | ElemenoSC | public |
| 05:33.05 | RodOfNOD | so tough idk if u can code it lol |
| 05:33.07 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 05:33.08 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:33.10 | slightlyrandom | Fuck |
| 05:33.13 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:33.16 | slightlyrandom | Wasted my time, didn't I ? |
| 05:33.19 | RodOfNOD | no no |
| 05:33.21 | RodOfNOD | we learn |
| 05:33.22 | Unrea1 | Slightly |
| 05:33.29 | Unrea1 | Iam not time wasted |
| 05:33.31 | RodOfNOD | we learn that bliz is even stupider than i already thought they were |
| 05:33.33 | slightlyrandom | :D |
| 05:33.42 | slightlyrandom | I'm pulling legs, I'm pulling legs |
| 05:33.47 | RodOfNOD | they have events are completely useless |
| 05:33.52 | Unrea1 | Thats funny cause i cant walk |
| 05:33.56 | slightlyrandom | Haha |
| 05:33.57 | RodOfNOD | they do shit to my variables and dont tell me |
| 05:34.01 | slightlyrandom | You're a cripple! |
| 05:34.05 | slightlyrandom | Amputee, too? |
| 05:34.07 | RodOfNOD | u bastards! |
| 05:34.14 | Unrea1 | xD |
| 05:34.40 | RodOfNOD | ok so whats wrong with what i said using a death timer that u somehow increse.. and then placing a fake | | | | with a dialog over the units console? |
| 05:34.41 | slightlyrandom | Well, we fucking tried Unrea1 |
| 05:34.49 | slightlyrandom | We're down to really really REALLY shitty solutions |
| 05:34.51 | RodOfNOD | we have 2 suggestions Unrea1 |
| 05:35.01 | RodOfNOD | one is u presave all mineral locationsinto an array |
| 05:35.10 | RodOfNOD | create another array tht contains a boolean |
| 05:35.23 | RodOfNOD | then every so often check if that unit still exists |
| 05:35.31 | RodOfNOD | if it does then do ur thing |
| 05:35.40 | RodOfNOD | if it doesnt |
| 05:35.44 | slightlyrandom | wank |
| 05:35.45 | RodOfNOD | then do ur thing and turn off the flag |
| 05:36.01 | RodOfNOD | or just clearn the array unit to no unit |
| 05:36.04 | RodOfNOD | that would also work |
| 05:36.10 | RodOfNOD | how many mins u have on ur map |
| 05:36.11 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 05:36.14 | Unrea1 | 3 |
| 05:36.18 | RodOfNOD | 3 minerals? |
| 05:36.25 | Unrea1 | This is a test map |
| 05:36.26 | RodOfNOD | all this for 3? |
| 05:36.29 | slightlyrandom | hah |
| 05:36.30 | Unrea1 | So 3 currently |
| 05:36.31 | RodOfNOD | well i mean in the final |
| 05:36.35 | Unrea1 | Oh idk |
| 05:36.38 | Unrea1 | Prolly a lot |
| 05:36.40 | RodOfNOD | like what estimate |
| 05:36.42 | RodOfNOD | 1000 |
| 05:36.44 | RodOfNOD | 200 |
| 05:36.45 | RodOfNOD | 30 |
| 05:36.49 | Unrea1 | 150 |
| 05:36.55 | slightlyrandom | That's a lot of bases |
| 05:37.01 | slightlyrandom | There's what, 8 in a base ? |
| 05:37.16 | Unrea1 | O lawd... |
| 05:37.21 | RodOfNOD | ok so on map init create an array of units that are ur minerals can u do that? |
| 05:37.25 | slightlyrandom | Or are you doing funky stuff and I need to go away ? |
| 05:37.45 | RodOfNOD | hes making a super fastest map with 200 mins per stack |
| 05:37.55 | Unrea1 | Idk if its worth the trouble |
| 05:38.01 | Unrea1 | But what im trying to do is |
| 05:38.03 | RodOfNOD | idk if it is either |
| 05:38.11 | Unrea1 | I changed the minerals to look like trees |
| 05:38.18 | Unrea1 | And when the trees run out of minerals |
| 05:38.25 | Unrea1 | A tree stump appears |
| 05:38.33 | RodOfNOD | thats it? |
| 05:38.36 | Unrea1 | And then the tree respawns after awhile |
| 05:38.41 | Unrea1 | ^That is it |
| 05:38.42 | RodOfNOD | oh well |
| 05:38.48 | Unrea1 | For multiple minerals |
| 05:38.51 | RodOfNOD | i would suggest u never let the tree die |
| 05:38.57 | Unrea1 | LOL |
| 05:38.59 | RodOfNOD | and when it gets to say 20 minerals |
| 05:39.03 | RodOfNOD | u repalce it with a stump |
| 05:39.15 | RodOfNOD | then set a timer and replace it back |
| 05:39.26 | Unrea1 | Is there a way when it gets to 20 |
| 05:39.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster Colawaffle (~colawaffl@ppp118-209-64-156.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) |
| 05:39.34 | Unrea1 | Stop the player from gathering |
| 05:39.38 | Unrea1 | And wait till it regens |
| 05:39.49 | RodOfNOD | idk vailreth would know |
| 05:40.00 | RodOfNOD | cuz hes been experimenting with that shit but hes not on |
| 05:40.05 | RodOfNOD | he has regenerating mins |
| 05:40.09 | Unrea1 | Always helpful |
| 05:40.23 | RodOfNOD | anyways just have a periodic |
| 05:40.27 | RodOfNOD | that checks all ur trees |
| 05:40.32 | Unrea1 | kk |
| 05:40.33 | RodOfNOD | and if they get below 20 |
| 05:40.38 | RodOfNOD | kill em with a stump |
| 05:40.43 | MrDeath | SweetZombieJesus: thank you for your kickass unit selector! i'm planning on using it in my upcoming release of Super Baneling Tag (Sheep Tag on SC2) |
| 05:40.46 | RodOfNOD | then reload the unit |
| 05:40.52 | RodOfNOD | and bring it back to life |
| 05:40.59 | RodOfNOD | reload = reset mineral count |
| 05:41.00 | SweetZombieJesus | my pleasure :) glad to see its being put to use |
| 05:41.30 | SweetZombieJesus | working on it right now actually, many more features planned |
| 05:41.41 | RodOfNOD | what did u end up for a release requirement SweetZombieJesus ? did u go with salma? |
| 05:41.50 | MrDeath | sweet, thanks man i'll be sure to update |
| 05:42.09 | SweetZombieJesus | what release requirement RodOfNOD ? |
| 05:42.13 | SweetZombieJesus | license? |
| 05:42.17 | RodOfNOD | yea |
| 05:42.20 | SweetZombieJesus | oh i made my own |
| 05:42.23 | RodOfNOD | i coudlnt remember what it was called |
| 05:42.25 | RodOfNOD | yes i know |
| 05:42.29 | SweetZombieJesus | its called FreeToUseButCredit |
| 05:42.33 | SweetZombieJesus | :D |
| 05:42.40 | RodOfNOD | did u include a requirement for salmas picture like i said? |
| 05:42.41 | slightlyrandom | Public Domain, baby, the only license you'll ever need |
| 05:42.42 | Saeris | alright bifuu |
| 05:42.46 | SweetZombieJesus | oh salmas |
| 05:42.46 | Saeris | i got it working again |
| 05:42.47 | SweetZombieJesus | as in the girl |
| 05:42.51 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 05:42.52 | SweetZombieJesus | i wasnt sure what salmas was :P |
| 05:42.53 | RodOfNOD | hayack |
| 05:42.54 | Bifuu | nice |
| 05:42.55 | RodOfNOD | the beauty |
| 05:42.57 | Saeris | to the point where they all refresh each other |
| 05:42.58 | Saeris | but |
| 05:42.58 | RodOfNOD | tha she is |
| 05:42.58 | SweetZombieJesus | who is that anyway |
| 05:43.01 | SweetZombieJesus | link already |
| 05:43.05 | RodOfNOD | are u kidding me? |
| 05:43.09 | SweetZombieJesus | nah |
| 05:43.11 | SweetZombieJesus | now link |
| 05:43.18 | Saeris | problem is, i can only get it to spread the aura when the buff has a periodic |
| 05:43.29 | Bablo | http://www.nrj.fi/service.cntum?serviceType=picture&documentName=150529/salmahayek.jpg |
| 05:43.31 | Saeris | so i can't have it do an initial search only |
| 05:43.34 | RodOfNOD | http://www.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=salma%20hayek&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1542&bih=801 |
| 05:43.47 | Saeris | one thing i can do |
| 05:43.49 | SweetZombieJesus | ive seen her before |
| 05:43.49 | RodOfNOD | hoiw can u not know what one of the 10 most beautiful woman on the planet is |
| 05:43.56 | Saeris | is make it so it only does the periodic effect once |
| 05:44.01 | Saeris | but |
| 05:44.10 | SweetZombieJesus | hardly |
| 05:44.16 | Saeris | i need to make it so it doesn't refresh the buff on units that already have it |
| 05:44.30 | Saeris | i guess i would use a validator for that? |
| 05:44.31 | Bifuu | hmm |
| 05:44.36 | Bifuu | prolly |
| 05:44.42 | Saeris | i'll give it a shot |
| 05:44.45 | SweetZombieJesus | http://www.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fusedfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/agron.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fusedfilm.com/2010/04/glee-actress-dianna-agron-joins-i-am-number-four/&usg=__E3A-X3CjxPnAKAey1JvX8En-fT4=&h=382&w=300&sz=49&hl=nl&start=1&tbnid=HjIRpOZUROmsKM:&tbnh=123&tbnw=97&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddianna%2Bagron%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dnl%26sa%3DX%26biw%3D1299%26bih%3D760%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1 |
| 05:44.50 | SweetZombieJesus | now SHE is beautiful |
| 05:45.03 | Coolflip | Is there some special way to update the leaderboard |
| 05:45.06 | Coolflip | that im just missing |
| 05:45.17 | RodOfNOD | shes ok |
| 05:45.22 | SweetZombieJesus | pfffffffff |
| 05:45.35 | slightlyrandom | nono |
| 05:45.37 | slightlyrandom | http://www.google.dk/images?q=beautiful&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=da&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=736 <-- she is |
| 05:45.40 | RodOfNOD | shes no salma |
| 05:45.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster Corbo (~thecorbo@190.87.81.82) |
| 05:45.45 | slightlyrandom | Coolflip: Special ? |
| 05:45.51 | slightlyrandom | What wrong with the regular one ? |
| 05:45.58 | Saeris | and doing that prevents it from spreading again |
| 05:45.59 | Saeris | sigh |
| 05:46.09 | Technomancer | still trying to find out what effect from a beam displays on the target. like for instance the target catching on fire after a hellion flamethrower. I dont wanna change the flame, but I wanna change the way the target looks when it gets hit (IE not catch fire) |
| 05:46.18 | Saeris | this is far more complicated than it should be |
| 05:46.39 | RodOfNOD | utter perfection: http://www.chicagobachelor.com/albums/salma-hayek-pictures/salma_hayek_21.jpg |
| 05:46.54 | Coolflip | now here is a perfect women |
| 05:46.55 | Coolflip | http://images.yuku.com/image/bmp/d3d26bd487e1f1576eacd07ccc9b9e7638b4e602.bmp |
| 05:46.56 | slightlyrandom | "Utter" |
| 05:47.00 | slightlyrandom | I like that word choice |
| 05:47.07 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:47.13 | RodOfNOD | its an "adjective" |
| 05:47.19 | RodOfNOD | utter siege tank! |
| 05:47.28 | SweetZombieJesus | udder perfection? |
| 05:47.32 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 05:47.36 | RodOfNOD | she is a fine looking gals Coolflip that ur gf? |
| 05:47.46 | Corbo | wtf |
| 05:47.46 | slightlyrandom | his sister, too! |
| 05:47.49 | SweetZombieJesus | she does have nice udders |
| 05:47.50 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:47.51 | Coolflip | Well whats the regular one slight |
| 05:47.52 | SweetZombieJesus | but the rest is meh |
| 05:48.03 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:48.13 | RodOfNOD | dude show me what u think is gorgeous cuz |
| 05:48.23 | slightlyrandom | Dunno, I've been using Set Leaderboard Item Text |
| 05:48.23 | RodOfNOD | ur dreaming |
| 05:48.32 | SweetZombieJesus | gorgeous is big boobed in my book :P |
| 05:48.34 | SweetZombieJesus | isnt |
| 05:48.35 | SweetZombieJesus | doh |
| 05:48.36 | SweetZombieJesus | lol |
| 05:48.37 | slightlyrandom | hah |
| 05:48.43 | slightlyrandom | Freudian Slip much ? |
| 05:48.47 | SweetZombieJesus | >_> |
| 05:48.49 | SweetZombieJesus | almost! |
| 05:48.53 | SweetZombieJesus | i corrected fast enough |
| 05:48.55 | Unrea1 | Rod |
| 05:49.20 | Unrea1 | Would i need a condition to check if they are below 20 minerals or would it be an action |
| 05:49.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (516f48df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.72.223) |
| 05:50.04 | SweetZombieJesus | http://www.google.nl/images?q=jayma+mays&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=639nTN64LseQjAeE-KDUBA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CDQQsAQwAA&biw=1299&bih=760 |
| 05:50.10 | SweetZombieJesus | now thats beautiful |
| 05:50.14 | SweetZombieJesus | in the way i like it |
| 05:50.19 | SweetZombieJesus | not HOT beautiful |
| 05:50.24 | RodOfNOD | would be part of a for loop through ur array and then be an IF then |
| 05:50.26 | SweetZombieJesus | just beautiful |
| 05:50.50 | RodOfNOD | shes ok |
| 05:51.19 | SweetZombieJesus | yeye thats what you said last time too :P |
| 05:51.32 | SweetZombieJesus | now lemme work on my trigs |
| 05:51.34 | slightlyrandom | http://www.google.com/search?q=Christina+Hendricks&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a |
| 05:51.35 | SweetZombieJesus | so i can go to bed |
| 05:51.39 | SweetZombieJesus | its goddamn 8 in the morning |
| 05:51.57 | slightlyrandom | Sleep is for the week and the wicked |
| 05:52.00 | slightlyrandom | weak* |
| 05:52.08 | slightlyrandom | Bugger, I'm getting tired too, it seems |
| 05:52.09 | SweetZombieJesus | yes i would like to sleep for a week |
| 05:52.39 | SweetZombieJesus | ok im ALMOST done for today |
| 05:52.46 | SweetZombieJesus | now how can i force an anitmation to play 1 variation |
| 05:53.04 | SweetZombieJesus | this thing has 3 ugly variations |
| 05:54.02 | Corbo | hey |
| 05:54.10 | Corbo | is there a way to |
| 05:54.23 | Corbo | ...randomly generate terrain? |
| 05:54.24 | Corbo | cliffs |
| 05:54.29 | Corbo | and displacement too |
| 05:54.37 | wOlfLinG | Need... sleep... can't... sleep... Zombie wOlfLinG.... |
| 05:54.38 | slightlyrandom | height, yes, cliffs, no |
| 05:55.27 | RodOfNOD | can we agree on megan fox slightlyrandom ? |
| 05:55.39 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, she's hot |
| 05:55.55 | goomba_ | so hot |
| 05:56.02 | RodOfNOD | http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/13/2009-hot-100-100-91/7_Adriana_Lima_Hot100_l.jpg |
| 05:56.04 | RodOfNOD | how bout her |
| 05:56.09 | slightlyrandom | Although I'm more into Felicia Day |
| 05:56.13 | SweetZombieJesus | ugh no |
| 05:56.16 | goomba_ | not hot |
| 05:56.16 | SweetZombieJesus | that pic |
| 05:56.48 | RodOfNOD | not hot? |
| 05:56.54 | RodOfNOD | shes the top victoria secrets model |
| 05:56.55 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:56.56 | RodOfNOD | http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/13/2009-hot-100-100-91/10-jenniferlovehewit_Hot100_l.jpg |
| 05:57.01 | RodOfNOD | how bout her? |
| 05:57.08 | Corbo | I like jennifer |
| 05:57.10 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, she's cute too |
| 05:57.13 | Corbo | I can agree with that |
| 05:57.33 | Furyhunter | dayumn |
| 05:57.36 | RodOfNOD | not a great pic but: http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/12/2009-hot-100-100-91/11-Jessica_Biel_Hot100_l.jpg |
| 05:57.54 | Corbo | eh nah |
| 05:58.10 | Unrea1 | http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/13/gaymenswordfightingwithdickswith3donuts |
| 05:58.16 | RodOfNOD | http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/12/2009-hot-100-100-91/13-Jessica_Alba_Hot100_l.jpg - i know that u like her |
| 05:58.19 | Unrea1 | What about that |
| 05:58.28 | RodOfNOD | dont think i have to even click on that |
| 05:58.40 | Unrea1 | I dont like jessica that much |
| 05:58.59 | Corbo | I think she's fun |
| 05:59.05 | Corbo | but idk the fuzz about her |
| 05:59.50 | RodOfNOD | this gal is smoking: http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/11/2009-hot-100-100-91/24-Eva_Mendes_Hot100_l.jpg |
| 06:00.16 | wOlfLinG | That's true mr. GDI |
| 06:00.24 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 06:00.39 | goomba_ | eva mendes is uber hot |
| 06:00.51 | RodOfNOD | well at least we agree on something |
| 06:01.09 | RodOfNOD | how bout hilary duff and lyndsey lohan? |
| 06:01.15 | wOlfLinG | ya |
| 06:01.17 | goomba_ | hittable |
| 06:01.29 | goomba_ | though im used to them being like 12 |
| 06:01.34 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 06:01.39 | wOlfLinG | lmao |
| 06:01.40 | goomba_ | and lindsey lohan does crack |
| 06:01.43 | RodOfNOD | scarlett johansson :> |
| 06:01.47 | Unrea1 | [22:50] <RodOfNOD> would be part of a for loop through ur array and then be an IF then |
| 06:01.47 | goomba_ | ++++++++++ |
| 06:01.48 | goomba_ | super hot |
| 06:01.50 | Unrea1 | Was that to me? |
| 06:01.50 | RodOfNOD | so that just makes her easier |
| 06:01.51 | Unrea1 | Rod |
| 06:01.51 | goomba_ | ever seen the island? |
| 06:01.54 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 06:01.56 | RodOfNOD | Unrea1: |
| 06:02.01 | Unrea1 | kk makin sure |
| 06:02.06 | Coolflip | Coolflip: |
| 06:02.17 | Unrea1 | Failflip: |
| 06:02.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster Oldschool01 (62a4fa8f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.164.250.143) |
| 06:02.27 | Coolflip | !slap unrea |
| 06:02.31 | Coolflip | ~slap unrea |
| 06:02.38 | purl | ACTION slaps unrea, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 06:02.38 | Coolflip | wtffff |
| 06:02.42 | Unrea1 | xO |
| 06:02.55 | Coolflip | ~prod unrea |
| 06:02.56 | purl | ACTION zaps unrea with a high voltage cattle prod |
| 06:03.01 | Coolflip | ~stab unrea |
| 06:03.02 | purl | ACTION runs at unrea with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 06:03.04 | Currydevil | anyone know if you can flag items for each player so only they can pick them up? think there was something like that in wc3 |
| 06:03.14 | Corbo | <3 scarlett |
| 06:03.24 | RodOfNOD | u like scarlett? |
| 06:03.34 | RodOfNOD | this gal cant sing but she is smokin in this pic: http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/05/07/2009-hot-100-100-91/46-Nicole_Scherzinger_Hot100_l.jpg |
| 06:04.04 | Corbo | so |
| 06:04.12 | Corbo | how to randomly generate terrain? |
| 06:04.13 | Coolflip | ok |
| 06:04.16 | Coolflip | you dont |
| 06:04.28 | Coolflip | anyways, anyone know why this might give an error |
| 06:04.29 | Coolflip | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.29 | Coolflip | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.29 | Coolflip | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.40 | RodOfNOD | pastebin.com |
| 06:04.41 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 06:04.50 | Coolflip | it was only 3 lines in the editor D; |
| 06:04.53 | RodOfNOD | need the full trigger |
| 06:05.01 | RodOfNOD | what error does it give? |
| 06:05.04 | slightlyrandom | Bubba, what error is it giving ? |
| 06:05.10 | Coolflip | Uh let me check again |
| 06:05.10 | RodOfNOD | too slow |
| 06:05.52 | Coolflip | Array index underflow |
| 06:06.38 | RodOfNOD | whats the event |
| 06:06.45 | RodOfNOD | paste the whole trigger on pastebin.com |
| 06:06.47 | slightlyrandom | You have an array error |
| 06:06.48 | RodOfNOD | just saves time |
| 06:06.50 | slightlyrandom | Is your array big enough ? |
| 06:07.03 | RodOfNOD | he said underflow |
| 06:07.08 | slightlyrandom | Is it small enough? |
| 06:07.12 | RodOfNOD | wouldnt that be an overflow? |
| 06:07.13 | Coolflip | Wait, i think i may see the problem |
| 06:07.34 | Coolflip | Is a player type ok to put into an interger place |
| 06:07.50 | slightlyrandom | Player type? |
| 06:08.02 | Coolflip | Like im using (Kills)[triggering player] with triggering player as the index # |
| 06:08.03 | slightlyrandom | What is the event ? |
| 06:08.05 | RodOfNOD | player number = integer |
| 06:08.08 | Coolflip | Every time a unit dies |
| 06:08.14 | slightlyrandom | Coolflip: Whats your event |
| 06:08.18 | Coolflip | Every time a unit dies |
| 06:08.28 | slightlyrandom | There is no triggering player for that |
| 06:08.35 | slightlyrandom | THere is a killing player |
| 06:08.37 | RodOfNOD | yes there is |
| 06:08.42 | RodOfNOD | triggering = unit died |
| 06:08.43 | slightlyrandom | Oh, right |
| 06:08.48 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 06:08.50 | slightlyrandom | Owner of triggering unit |
| 06:08.56 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 06:09.02 | RodOfNOD | u want owner of triggering unit |
| 06:09.05 | RodOfNOD | instead of player |
| 06:09.09 | RodOfNOD | cuz the event is UNIT based |
| 06:09.09 | Coolflip | Owner of triggring unit outputs a unit |
| 06:09.11 | RodOfNOD | not player based |
| 06:09.11 | Coolflip | for whatever reason |
| 06:09.19 | slightlyrandom | It does not :P |
| 06:09.24 | Coolflip | It says it does |
| 06:09.24 | RodOfNOD | no it doesnt |
| 06:09.28 | slightlyrandom | No it doesnt |
| 06:09.28 | RodOfNOD | it outputs an intger |
| 06:09.38 | slightlyrandom | Doesn't triggering player default to owner of triggering unit ? |
| 06:09.40 | RodOfNOD | cool go to the very top and pick the TYPE to integer |
| 06:09.45 | RodOfNOD | nm ur on an output |
| 06:10.01 | goomba_ | triggering player is for player events |
| 06:10.05 | goomba_ | ie player leaves game |
| 06:10.21 | Coolflip | Well, killing player seems like it should be the right fit |
| 06:10.37 | goomba_ | theres owner of killing unit :P |
| 06:10.45 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.45 | Coolflip | But, as before, killing player, for whatever reason says it outputs a unit |
| 06:10.50 | RodOfNOD | is what u want Coolflip |
| 06:11.09 | RodOfNOD | that will return INTEGER cuz i convertred intger to text |
| 06:11.41 | Coolflip | There we go |
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| 06:12.11 | jorgenpt | irc |
| 06:12.15 | jorgenpt | Oh whoops. |
| 06:12.38 | slightlyrandom | I really see ? |
| 06:12.45 | slightlyrandom | I rarely see |
| 06:12.53 | slightlyrandom | I are sea |
| 06:13.30 | slightlyrandom | Hey! Who wants to try the very first beta version of Moonbase Commander for SC2 ? |
| 06:13.36 | RodOfNOD | this gal kinda bugs me but i have to say a hot pic: http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2008/05/15/2008-hot-100/hot100_08_100tilaTequila_l1.jpg |
| 06:13.44 | RodOfNOD | oh i do i do:P |
| 06:13.58 | goomba_ | if i wasnt stoned beyond functionality |
| 06:13.59 | goomba_ | i would |
| 06:14.06 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 06:14.10 | RodOfNOD | u can still type |
| 06:14.13 | RodOfNOD | u are not beyond anything |
| 06:14.25 | goomba_ | typing is natural lol |
| 06:14.47 | slightlyrandom | http://www.mediafire.com/?jjndxb1oe1cv3xd |
| 06:14.49 | RodOfNOD | yes the apes did it the moment they stood up and came out of the jungle |
| 06:14.55 | Corbo | can you have more than 2 cliff levels? |
| 06:15.01 | goomba_ | zzz dont b trollin |
| 06:15.01 | slightlyrandom | You'll be good goomba_, it isn't that complicated yet |
| 06:15.44 | RodOfNOD | im just having fun with u goomba_ |
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| 06:15.53 | RodOfNOD | i thought it was 3 levels Corbo but i dk |
| 06:16.05 | goomba_ | im just watchin thse husky replays and passin out lol |
| 06:16.09 | RodOfNOD | fix ur events slightlyrandom :P |
| 06:16.16 | slightlyrandom | You can hack some with Heights Corbo, but not really |
| 06:16.20 | RodOfNOD | uw huskys? |
| 06:16.30 | slightlyrandom | ultra wiolet ? |
| 06:16.39 | goomba_ | tlo madfog game 5 |
| 06:16.42 | RodOfNOD | university of washington |
| 06:16.42 | slightlyrandom | What are you complaining about now RodOfNOD ? |
| 06:16.48 | slightlyrandom | Which events ? |
| 06:17.19 | Corbo | hack heights? |
| 06:17.19 | RodOfNOD | err what does this map do? |
| 06:17.20 | Corbo | explain |
| 06:17.28 | RodOfNOD | the events that show ur moon lander feet |
| 06:17.28 | slightlyrandom | Pretty much nothing :D |
| 06:17.37 | RodOfNOD | lol ok |
| 06:17.46 | RodOfNOD | now i know what kind of game u playing:P |
| 06:17.51 | slightlyrandom | You can press launch and get a number out depending on how long you keep it pressed |
| 06:17.53 | RodOfNOD | i will rickroll u sometime my friend |
| 06:18.11 | slightlyrandom | and an SCV will spawn too, just to mindfuck you a bit |
| 06:19.04 | Corbo | explain D: |
| 06:19.11 | slightlyrandom | Don't you love the smoothness of that bar, though? |
| 06:19.13 | slightlyrandom | Mmmm, smooth |
| 06:19.19 | RodOfNOD | i dont see anythinglol |
| 06:19.29 | slightlyrandom | Move on top of the damn command center |
| 06:19.53 | RodOfNOD | k and then? |
| 06:19.57 | slightlyrandom | press launch |
| 06:20.11 | slightlyrandom | press and hold launch |
| 06:20.55 | Unrea1 | Rod ur english hurts me |
| 06:21.01 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 06:21.20 | RodOfNOD | well i got tthe scv to pop one time but i cant do it again |
| 06:21.33 | RodOfNOD | sorry being very lazy today Unrea1 |
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| 06:21.50 | Unrea1 | Same here |
| 06:21.53 | Unrea1 | I havent done anything |
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| 06:21.56 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Hati] by ChanServ |
| 06:22.02 | wOlfLinG | So what's the easiest way to make a custom alliance menu? |
| 06:22.04 | Galois-evariste | yo |
| 06:22.05 | Unrea1 | Youtube FTL |
| 06:22.05 | slightlyrandom | RodOfNOD: Hmm? |
| 06:22.10 | Galois-evariste | does anyone here know irninja? |
| 06:22.15 | RodOfNOD | i cant get the scv to pop |
| 06:22.22 | RodOfNOD | where do i click xactly |
| 06:22.27 | slightlyrandom | On the launch dialog |
| 06:22.56 | RodOfNOD | k then what i held and nothing |
| 06:23.13 | slightlyrandom | Doesn't the purple bar go up ? |
| 06:23.21 | slightlyrandom | Enable unit bars or select the command center |
| 06:23.23 | slightlyrandom | sheeesh |
| 06:23.34 | RodOfNOD | how do i tell i cant click on the button and see the bar same time |
| 06:23.42 | slightlyrandom | What? |
| 06:23.45 | slightlyrandom | Of course you can |
| 06:24.46 | slightlyrandom | It is fairly fucking far from optimal, though |
| 06:24.50 | RodOfNOD | i see nothing |
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| 06:25.48 | slightlyrandom | [IMG]http://imgur.com/VoP8D.jpg[/IMG] |
| 06:25.48 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/traders-academy/. Traders academy. SuperAr (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by xhatix. |
| 06:26.00 | Bablo | anyone ever had the SC2_Internal_Error ? |
| 06:26.09 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 06:26.12 | Bablo | when trying to create their custom map in bnet |
| 06:26.13 | RodOfNOD | i cant duplicate that slightlyrandom |
| 06:26.21 | slightlyrandom | What the hell are you doing, man ? |
| 06:26.31 | RodOfNOD | im asking u the same thing |
| 06:26.48 | slightlyrandom | I'm holding down the mouse button |
| 06:26.49 | slightlyrandom | are you? |
| 06:27.00 | Guest5766 | I made a melee map, but the teams are always top 5 vs bottom 3, instead of top 3 (Users) vs bottom 5(computers) when you start the game in multiplayer.... how do you make specefic teams? |
| 06:27.10 | slightlyrandom | Game Variants |
| 06:27.12 | RodOfNOD | but of course |
| 06:27.41 | Bablo | Guest5766: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/#posts |
| 06:28.04 | Guest5766 | thanks bablo |
| 06:28.10 | Bablo | no problem |
| 06:30.21 | RodOfNOD | lol slightlyrandom i know what the problem is bud |
| 06:30.28 | RodOfNOD | im using a different resolution than u |
| 06:30.35 | slightlyrandom | Hm |
| 06:30.38 | RodOfNOD | so ur fake button isnt being seen |
| 06:30.45 | RodOfNOD | by my clicks |
| 06:30.55 | slightlyrandom | I thought the UI stuff was resolution agnostic |
| 06:31.04 | Unrea1 | Rod |
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| 06:31.09 | Unrea1 | I cant find anything on minerals |
| 06:31.15 | Unrea1 | To check if it has 20 |
| 06:31.23 | Unrea1 | Its like a mindfuck |
| 06:31.27 | Unrea1 | In wall of text form |
| 06:31.35 | slightlyrandom | try enabling the untitled trigger, reloading and clicking top right and bottom left corners of the button |
| 06:31.38 | slightlyrandom | tell me what values you get |
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| 06:31.43 | Hati | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/John-Carmack-ports-Rage-engine-to-iPhone-1058844.html |
| 06:31.45 | Hati | zomg |
| 06:32.40 | RodOfNOD | well it doesnt matter |
| 06:32.49 | RodOfNOD | u dont want to have users calibrate to use ur button |
| 06:33.00 | RodOfNOD | plus u cant see the purple bar unless u hover over the cc |
| 06:33.42 | RodOfNOD | why dont u use this: UI - Player Any Player clicks Any mouse button Down. |
| 06:33.43 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.45 | Unrea1 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 06:33.47 | Bablo | Hati, nice |
| 06:33.48 | RodOfNOD | to start the trigger? |
| 06:34.10 | RodOfNOD | should be unit properties resource |
| 06:34.13 | RodOfNOD | Unrea1: |
| 06:34.33 | Unrea1 | That would make sense << |
| 06:34.39 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 06:34.52 | RodOfNOD | slightlyrandom: ?? i gotta go to zzzzzzzzz |
| 06:35.01 | RodOfNOD | why dont u use button down? |
| 06:35.17 | Unrea1 | Hold up |
| 06:35.21 | Unrea1 | Unit properties? |
| 06:35.26 | Unrea1 | Isnt there only player |
| 06:35.36 | slightlyrandom | There was a reason |
| 06:36.07 | RodOfNOD | nm |
| 06:36.07 | slightlyrandom | I am using that Event RodOfNOD |
| 06:36.09 | RodOfNOD | im an idiot |
| 06:36.36 | slightlyrandom | But, I thought the Dialog stuff was placed the same irrelevant of resolution |
| 06:36.51 | RodOfNOD | nope |
| 06:36.53 | RodOfNOD | its not |
| 06:36.57 | RodOfNOD | thats the sad truth |
| 06:36.58 | slightlyrandom | Tits |
| 06:37.13 | Bablo | btw, can you test the lobby of a custom map without publishing the map and going to bnet to test it? |
| 06:37.19 | slightlyrandom | no Bablo |
| 06:37.23 | Bablo | that sucks :/ |
| 06:37.42 | slightlyrandom | Back to the drawing board, I guess |
| 06:37.46 | RodOfNOD | Unrea1: Variable - Set Power = (Integer(((Triggering unit) Life (Current)))) |
| 06:37.46 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.23 | RodOfNOD | u could have 2 ability buttons on starts one stops? |
| 06:38.34 | RodOfNOD | and then they can use keyboard commands |
| 06:38.43 | jorgenpt | Wish there was a way to /hide/ race selection in lobby. :) |
| 06:38.47 | RodOfNOD | slightlyrandom: |
| 06:38.48 | Bablo | my Game Variant is giving me the SC2_INTERNAL_ERROR :F When I delete it, it will launch normally, shucks aaaassss |
| 06:39.02 | RodOfNOD | u can jorgenpt kinda |
| 06:39.05 | slightlyrandom | RodOfNOD: Feels wrong |
| 06:39.08 | RodOfNOD | just force a certain race onto the player |
| 06:39.18 | jorgenpt | RodOfNOD: Well, yeah, but the dropdown is still there, just disabled? |
| 06:39.22 | slightlyrandom | yes |
| 06:39.24 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 06:39.30 | jorgenpt | Exactly :) |
| 06:39.37 | RodOfNOD | what does it matter |
| 06:39.47 | RodOfNOD | lots of shit like that i wish i could remove :P |
| 06:39.53 | jorgenpt | Hehe, yeah. |
| 06:39.56 | RodOfNOD | but in the end u do what u can |
| 06:40.26 | Bablo | you gotta have some limits, otherwise I dont think its modding, its just creating a game |
| 06:41.17 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:41.33 | deathnight114 | My defragmentor is STILL defragmenting..... |
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| 06:42.19 | KiwiWarrior | hello |
| 06:42.20 | KiwiWarrior | xD |
| 06:42.31 | deathnight114 | Hello, KiwiWarrior! |
| 06:42.48 | KiwiWarrior | some help me with my spawns i still can't get the dam things to work |
| 06:42.59 | deathnight114 | What are you trying to do? |
| 06:42.59 | KiwiWarrior | i'm trying to do a footman like spawn |
| 06:43.09 | KiwiWarrior | it changes when the building upgrades |
| 06:43.19 | deathnight114 | Okay |
| 06:43.35 | deathnight114 | Can you copy-Paste your spawn triggers? |
| 06:43.38 | deathnight114 | pastebin.com |
| 06:43.57 | KiwiWarrior | i have been using the data editor |
| 06:44.04 | deathnight114 | Hm |
| 06:44.05 | KiwiWarrior | as i beentold dat was the best way to do xD |
| 06:44.17 | slightlyrandom | aspect ratios are fucking with me |
| 06:44.18 | deathnight114 | I only know how to make spawns with triggers |
| 06:44.24 | RodOfNOD | data editing is evil come over to the right side of triggers! |
| 06:44.31 | KiwiWarrior | lol |
| 06:44.32 | deathnight114 | yup |
| 06:44.44 | KiwiWarrior | well i only know basic trigger spawns |
| 06:44.45 | deathnight114 | Data editing is better if you are much more advanced |
| 06:44.54 | slightlyrandom | for dynamic spawning, triggers are the way to go imo |
| 06:44.56 | KiwiWarrior | like one unit dat dont change when the buiding upgraded |
| 06:45.08 | deathnight114 | one unit dat? |
| 06:45.10 | deathnight114 | That? |
| 06:45.13 | deathnight114 | lol. |
| 06:45.16 | KiwiWarrior | lol |
| 06:45.19 | KiwiWarrior | every 4 |
| 06:45.22 | slightlyrandom | laughing out loud |
| 06:45.23 | KiwiWarrior | secs of real time |
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| 06:45.31 | Unrea1 | Ight Rod |
| 06:45.31 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: www.pastebin.com |
| 06:45.38 | Unrea1 | I copied everything you typed |
| 06:45.43 | Unrea1 | And im going to sleep |
| 06:45.46 | KiwiWarrior | well its just a basic trigger xD |
| 06:45.55 | Unrea1 | Shits hurting my head and i got almost nothing done |
| 06:46.01 | Unrea1 | Good night /sigh |
| 06:46.02 | KiwiWarrior | lol |
| 06:46.05 | KiwiWarrior | night |
| 06:46.06 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: So, what you need is this |
| 06:46.08 | deathnight114 | Paste the trigger? |
| 06:46.11 | KiwiWarrior | yes |
| 06:46.14 | KiwiWarrior | just open galaxy |
| 06:46.27 | slightlyrandom | A variable array with the unit type you want to be able to spawn |
| 06:46.30 | RodOfNOD | ok well its nite nite time for me |
| 06:46.36 | slightlyrandom | types* |
| 06:46.52 | RodOfNOD | bed time for bonzo.. 50 points if u can tell me who or what bonzo was? |
| 06:46.57 | slightlyrandom | muppet |
| 06:47.09 | slightlyrandom | Or was that Gonzo ? |
| 06:47.15 | RaydenUni | my mom says that |
| 06:47.18 | RaydenUni | so it's probably really old |
| 06:47.21 | RodOfNOD | yes that was gonzo |
| 06:47.23 | RaydenUni | sounds like a clown though |
| 06:47.36 | slightlyrandom | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bonham |
| 06:47.40 | RaydenUni | ah yeah |
| 06:47.41 | KiwiWarrior | lol i cant copy and paste xD |
| 06:47.43 | RaydenUni | that's way too old for me |
| 06:47.46 | RaydenUni | too old for my mom too |
| 06:47.49 | RaydenUni | but she does like old stuff |
| 06:47.54 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: Right click, Copy as Text |
| 06:47.55 | RaydenUni | not a clown though |
| 06:47.58 | deathnight114 | Why can't you copy-paste... |
| 06:47.59 | slightlyrandom | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043325/ |
| 06:48.01 | deathnight114 | You running a mac? |
| 06:48.12 | RodOfNOD | bonzo was a chimp |
| 06:48.13 | deathnight114 | He can't right click if he's running a mac XD |
| 06:48.21 | RodOfNOD | with ronald regan as the actor |
| 06:48.24 | RodOfNOD | have a gnite |
| 06:48.26 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 06:48.37 | KiwiWarrior | lol its there |
| 06:48.37 | KiwiWarrior | http://pastebin.com/i84eXKrj |
| 06:48.59 | KiwiWarrior | see its basic dats the only one i know with triggers xD |
| 06:49.03 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 06:49.17 | slightlyrandom | You gonna walk him through this or should I deathnight114 ? |
| 06:49.19 | KiwiWarrior | and it dont change when building changes xD |
| 06:49.22 | deathnight114 | Hm |
| 06:49.24 | deathnight114 | Okay. |
| 06:49.31 | deathnight114 | So... what are you trying to change with the buildings? |
| 06:49.38 | slightlyrandom | which unit type that spawns |
| 06:49.40 | slightlyrandom | Unit Array |
| 06:49.42 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 06:49.43 | KiwiWarrior | morph a building to a new one |
| 06:49.46 | deathnight114 | So.... |
| 06:50.03 | deathnight114 | Hm..... well will you be adding more units to the spawn? |
| 06:50.08 | KiwiWarrior | yes |
| 06:50.11 | KiwiWarrior | better units |
| 06:50.15 | deathnight114 | Because what i've noticed is that you just have a standard unit on there |
| 06:50.21 | KiwiWarrior | when the build has morph |
| 06:50.23 | deathnight114 | Will it just upgrade the marine? and replace it? |
| 06:50.32 | KiwiWarrior | yes |
| 06:50.33 | Bablo | slightlyrandom, do you know whats the difference in the map variants options in Teams and Teams[premade]? |
| 06:50.36 | deathnight114 | replace the marine. |
| 06:50.38 | deathnight114 | Okay. |
| 06:50.39 | KiwiWarrior | with a tank or a plane |
| 06:50.43 | deathnight114 | So.... |
| 06:50.51 | slightlyrandom | If it ain't on the Game Variants tutorial thing, I have no clue |
| 06:50.55 | deathnight114 | hmm.... i've never done this so it replaces unit |
| 06:51.03 | deathnight114 | I think you should get this one slightlyrandom |
| 06:51.05 | slightlyrandom | Aight |
| 06:51.09 | deathnight114 | :P |
| 06:51.13 | KiwiWarrior | lol |
| 06:51.14 | KiwiWarrior | xD |
| 06:51.16 | deathnight114 | I'll do it with him because i want to learn how to do this |
| 06:51.22 | slightlyrandom | I dont think he means on the entire map, though :) |
| 06:51.32 | deathnight114 | so.... |
| 06:51.40 | slightlyrandom | So, we'll start off making a variable or two we'll need Kiwi |
| 06:51.40 | Bablo | because if you generate the default game variants, you can see that all those use the [premade] ones but in the tutorial he uses the normal Teams, one |
| 06:51.41 | deathnight114 | When (unit) Enters (region) |
| 06:51.49 | deathnight114 | I'm pretty sure |
| 06:51.55 | deathnight114 | hold on lemme catch up to where he is so far |
| 06:52.05 | KiwiWarrior | xD |
| 06:52.06 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 06:52.07 | RaydenUni | is there an easy way to visualize distances in the map editor? |
| 06:52.22 | RaydenUni | is the fine grid 1 unit? |
| 06:52.26 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: Create a new global variable |
| 06:52.35 | slightlyrandom | Make it a Unit Type variable |
| 06:52.39 | slightlyrandom | and click the Array button |
| 06:52.41 | RaydenUni | or placement grid |
| 06:52.43 | RaydenUni | is that 1 unit? |
| 06:53.17 | KiwiWarrior | yep |
| 06:53.19 | slightlyrandom | Then make the size however many unit types you're gonna have |
| 06:53.41 | deathnight114 | Okay i'm caught up |
| 06:53.59 | slightlyrandom | Now, make a new trigger |
| 06:54.09 | slightlyrandom | Event - Map Initialization |
| 06:54.16 | slightlyrandom | Action - Set Variable |
| 06:54.36 | slightlyrandom | and Set the variable you just made, UnitType[1] to Marine |
| 06:54.37 | deathnight114 | What was the array size supposed to be? |
| 06:54.54 | slightlyrandom | Replace UnitType with what ever you called it |
| 06:55.52 | slightlyrandom | You make a new Action, Set Variable UnitType[2, 3, 4 and so on] for all the unit types you want the player to hav |
| 06:55.57 | slightlyrandom | That's the boring part, you can do that later |
| 06:56.06 | KiwiWarrior | lol |
| 06:56.12 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 06:56.27 | slightlyrandom | Now, I assume the players are gonna be getting different units ? |
| 06:56.34 | KiwiWarrior | yes |
| 06:56.34 | slightlyrandom | Depending on what level their building is at |
| 06:56.38 | KiwiWarrior | yep |
| 06:56.42 | slightlyrandom | Then create a new global variable |
| 06:56.53 | slightlyrandom | To store which level the players are on |
| 06:57.10 | slightlyrandom | How far they've evolved their building, so to speak |
| 06:57.21 | deathnight114 | PlayerLevel |
| 06:57.25 | deathnight114 | :> |
| 06:57.29 | slightlyrandom | Type Integer, Array, size = number of players on the map |
| 06:57.31 | RaydenUni | does anyone here actually know how long the distance unit is? |
| 06:57.33 | deathnight114 | I'll brb need something to drink really fast |
| 06:57.52 | KiwiWarrior | lol |
| 06:58.00 | slightlyrandom | RaydenUni: Use supply depots :P |
| 06:58.06 | RaydenUni | what do you mean? |
| 06:58.08 | KiwiWarrior | death get back to class fast xD |
| 06:58.16 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: What we're gonna do is this |
| 06:58.21 | RaydenUni | how do supply depots help? |
| 06:58.29 | slightlyrandom | They are used for measuring |
| 06:58.35 | RaydenUni | how so? |
| 06:58.37 | slightlyrandom | Place one |
| 06:58.39 | slightlyrandom | You'll see |
| 06:58.50 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: What we're gonan do is this: |
| 06:59.05 | RaydenUni | i do'nt think i will |
| 06:59.08 | RaydenUni | please explain |
| 06:59.17 | slightlyrandom | We're gonna make a trigger that detects when a player upgrades his building, and then increase the Integer value for him |
| 06:59.20 | deathnight114 | Back |
| 06:59.29 | deathnight114 | Hm |
| 06:59.33 | deathnight114 | kk |
| 06:59.35 | RaydenUni | are you saying the size of a supply depot is known? |
| 06:59.36 | slightlyrandom | And then we're gonna use that integer when we spawn units for him |
| 06:59.38 | deathnight114 | So i've gotten all the stuff down |
| 06:59.40 | RaydenUni | what is the size of it? |
| 06:59.43 | slightlyrandom | 2x2 |
| 06:59.46 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 06:59.48 | RaydenUni | that's all i needed |
| 06:59.52 | slightlyrandom | Yes, it is |
| 06:59.55 | RaydenUni | so this means that the small grid in the editor is size 1 |
| 07:00.09 | RaydenUni | so if you want a unit to be able to shoot over a supply depot it has to have range 3? |
| 07:00.15 | deathnight114 | Should the innitial value be 1 or 0? |
| 07:00.20 | deathnight114 | initial* |
| 07:00.29 | slightlyrandom | Doesn't matter as long as you remember what you did :P |
| 07:00.29 | RaydenUni | arrays start at 0 |
| 07:00.38 | RaydenUni | if you want to not waste space |
| 07:00.41 | slightlyrandom | arrays start at 1 |
| 07:00.42 | RaydenUni | if it's easier to do 1, then do that |
| 07:00.46 | RaydenUni | what? |
| 07:00.46 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 07:00.50 | RaydenUni | indices start at 0 |
| 07:01.08 | slightlyrandom | array[8] is made the size array[9] |
| 07:01.19 | RaydenUni | what? |
| 07:01.27 | slightlyrandom | And, RaydenUni, please don't confuse KiwiWarrior, 'kay? |
| 07:01.42 | slightlyrandom | Look at the code RaydenUni |
| 07:01.43 | KiwiWarrior | lol im good i just wait to get back on topic |
| 07:01.43 | KiwiWarrior | xD |
| 07:01.46 | RaydenUni | being correct shouldn't be confusing |
| 07:01.57 | got_Ammo | does anyone have experience with CatalogFieldValueSet()? |
| 07:02.00 | slightlyrandom | Blizzard is kind enough to make arrays you specify as size 8 to be size 9 |
| 07:02.05 | Clord | lol even in my card game.. cards are arrayed in variables 1-5 ^^ |
| 07:02.07 | RaydenUni | wtf? |
| 07:02.09 | Clord | I just ignore zero |
| 07:02.10 | slightlyrandom | Because starting arrays at 0 is silly |
| 07:02.10 | RaydenUni | seriously? |
| 07:02.14 | slightlyrandom | yes |
| 07:02.16 | RaydenUni | no it's not |
| 07:02.19 | slightlyrandom | Yes it fucking is |
| 07:02.21 | slightlyrandom | No go away |
| 07:02.25 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: Right |
| 07:02.26 | KiwiWarrior | omg its clord, CLORD i love your card game xD |
| 07:02.27 | RaydenUni | there is a reason that all non-retarded languages are 0 based |
| 07:02.40 | got_Ammo | let's all make fun of matlab for being 1 based |
| 07:02.54 | RaydenUni | the reason may not be based on how people think, but there is a reason |
| 07:02.54 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: Did you sort of understand what my plan is here? |
| 07:02.57 | RaydenUni | and it's not silly |
| 07:02.58 | RaydenUni | :/ |
| 07:03.02 | KiwiWarrior | yes |
| 07:03.11 | slightlyrandom | Aight, the simplest part first |
| 07:03.12 | Clord | 0101010101010101012 |
| 07:03.13 | Clord | XD |
| 07:03.16 | slightlyrandom | The spawning trigger |
| 07:03.18 | RaydenUni | so if you ask for a size 10 array you can acces array[10]? |
| 07:03.19 | slightlyrandom | So, go to the one you have |
| 07:03.28 | slightlyrandom | Thats what I said RaydenUni |
| 07:03.35 | RaydenUni | ugh |
| 07:03.44 | slightlyrandom | and, instead of Unit - Create 1 Marine |
| 07:03.48 | RaydenUni | i'm going to stab my friend who works at blizzard |
| 07:03.56 | deathnight114 | I dont think it should be real-time, i think it should be game-time |
| 07:04.01 | deathnight114 | Yeah... Suuuuure he does... |
| 07:04.06 | slightlyrandom | Change it to Unit - Create 1 UnitType[1] |
| 07:04.14 | KiwiWarrior | ok ok |
| 07:04.25 | Clord | lol "working for blizzard" can range from cleaning their floors to actual "working for them" |
| 07:04.26 | Clord | XD |
| 07:04.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ka[L]ekin (~Ka_L_ekin@dsl-240-72-160.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 07:04.33 | RaydenUni | Clord, his name is in the credit |
| 07:04.39 | Clord | nice |
| 07:04.41 | RaydenUni | he's on the tools team |
| 07:04.48 | slightlyrandom | You can go ahead and test that this works, it'd be nifty if it did |
| 07:05.10 | Clord | aka one of members constructing this piece of monster |
| 07:05.12 | Clord | called data editor |
| 07:05.13 | Clord | lol |
| 07:05.18 | RaydenUni | well, he did cinematics |
| 07:05.20 | RaydenUni | tools |
| 07:05.21 | RaydenUni | so not directly |
| 07:05.22 | Clord | oh |
| 07:05.24 | RaydenUni | but i can still bitch at him |
| 07:05.25 | KiwiWarrior | lol is dat it slightly xD |
| 07:05.32 | slightlyrandom | Naw, we got a bit to go |
| 07:05.35 | KiwiWarrior | oo |
| 07:05.36 | RaydenUni | i know someone who is QA for the mac editor |
| 07:05.49 | RaydenUni | also people on other teams, but that's not helpful here |
| 07:06.13 | Clord | but honestly... blizzard probably went tons of extra effort just for make game ground up to be moddable even thought their campaign would not really need such thing |
| 07:06.15 | slightlyrandom | Can you ask someone why the data editor craps out on Linux ? |
| 07:06.18 | slightlyrandom | That's really annoying |
| 07:06.22 | KiwiWarrior | sligthly do you mind if i copy all what u say into notepad so i dont forget |
| 07:06.23 | KiwiWarrior | xD |
| 07:06.27 | slightlyrandom | Not at all |
| 07:06.34 | slightlyrandom | All my actions are in the public domain, baby |
| 07:06.46 | KiwiWarrior | give me abit just going up top to copy the start xD |
| 07:06.54 | deathnight114 | Lol |
| 07:07.09 | deathnight114 | I've been keeping up with him, but i remember i didn't understand anything of what he said the first time i came here for help |
| 07:07.19 | RaydenUni | the editor runs on linux? |
| 07:07.23 | deathnight114 | What was i trying to do, figure out how to increase the amount of units that spawns right? |
| 07:08.17 | slightlyrandom | Terrain and Trigger does, sorta |
| 07:08.22 | slightlyrandom | Not awesomely, but it runs |
| 07:08.31 | slightlyrandom | Icon errors and slowdowns |
| 07:08.36 | deathnight114 | Why dont you just run linux and windows on seporate partitions? |
| 07:08.42 | slightlyrandom | Data though, fucks up and crashes as soon as you start it |
| 07:08.45 | slightlyrandom | I do :( |
| 07:08.55 | slightlyrandom | But I fucking hate windows |
| 07:08.56 | deathnight114 | WELL THEN WHY NOT JUST RUN IT ON WINDOWS LOL |
| 07:09.01 | deathnight114 | lol... why? |
| 07:09.06 | deathnight114 | Windows isn't as good as linux |
| 07:09.09 | Ka[L]ekin | Because stuff works on it |
| 07:09.10 | deathnight114 | But it has it's uses |
| 07:09.13 | slightlyrandom | It's the most useless OS since... well, since ever |
| 07:09.14 | Ka[L]ekin | and not his precious linux |
| 07:09.14 | Ka[L]ekin | :D |
| 07:09.16 | deathnight114 | Like using the full editor |
| 07:09.24 | deathnight114 | Uhh, I disagree with that |
| 07:09.27 | deathnight114 | I hate macs |
| 07:09.30 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, true |
| 07:09.32 | Ka[L]ekin | I don't get how linux people can say they |
| 07:09.43 | deathnight114 | hm? |
| 07:09.53 | Ka[L]ekin | *that |
| 07:09.55 | deathnight114 | Im a linux person, but i also use windows lol |
| 07:10.00 | Ka[L]ekin | every time you hear "I don't run it there because I hate windows" |
| 07:10.09 | slightlyrandom | I feel limited on Windows |
| 07:10.12 | Ka[L]ekin | IT's followed by "why?" and "It's the most useless OS" |
| 07:10.14 | Ka[L]ekin | But it works on that OS! |
| 07:10.15 | KiwiWarrior | ok im back |
| 07:10.17 | deathnight114 | I feel limited on linux |
| 07:10.18 | slightlyrandom | I have half the tools, and half the flexibility |
| 07:10.20 | Ka[L]ekin | How can it be useless >_< |
| 07:10.21 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 07:10.22 | slightlyrandom | Linux is just more... powerful |
| 07:10.23 | KiwiWarrior | and copyed it all so far into notepad |
| 07:10.24 | KiwiWarrior | xD |
| 07:10.26 | deathnight114 | Because stuff works on linux |
| 07:10.30 | Clord | mac double cheese |
| 07:10.30 | deathnight114 | I mean... |
| 07:10.33 | deathnight114 | Windows |
| 07:10.33 | Clord | what overpriced piece of crap |
| 07:10.34 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:10.35 | deathnight114 | But linux can run it |
| 07:10.38 | deathnight114 | But it requires more work |
| 07:10.49 | Ka[L]ekin | The OS itself may not be better, I dreally don't know |
| 07:10.51 | slightlyrandom | Aight KiwiWarrior, lets see if we can squeeze this inbetween the ranting I just kicked off :P |
| 07:10.53 | Ka[L]ekin | But it has far better support. |
| 07:10.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105) |
| 07:10.54 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 07:10.57 | onetwo | hi |
| 07:11.01 | KiwiWarrior | lol |
| 07:11.02 | Ka[L]ekin | Which makes shit... |
| 07:11.02 | Ka[L]ekin | work |
| 07:11.06 | deathnight114 | Hello, onetwo! |
| 07:11.11 | Ka[L]ekin | Morning. |
| 07:11.13 | deathnight114 | Why do some people get +V |
| 07:11.14 | ekcolnovkol|zzz | windows? macs? linuxes? man you guys are noobs, i access the internet using a chalkboard |
| 07:11.17 | deathnight114 | It doesn't do anything |
| 07:11.19 | slightlyrandom | So, first off we want the spawn trigger to work for all the players |
| 07:11.22 | Ka[L]ekin | Because they are better human beings. |
| 07:11.39 | slightlyrandom | KiwiWarrior: So, in the trigger, New Action, Pick Each Player |
| 07:11.44 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:11.49 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:11.59 | slightlyrandom | deathnight114: It's a status thing |
| 07:12.06 | deathnight114 | Wouldn't we want to spawn them @ Different points? |
| 07:12.10 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, we'll get to that |
| 07:12.12 | slightlyrandom | Patience |
| 07:12.15 | KiwiWarrior | lol |
| 07:12.16 | deathnight114 | And have them run to eachother? |
| 07:12.16 | Ka[L]ekin | Lol. |
| 07:12.18 | deathnight114 | Alright... |
| 07:12.20 | deathnight114 | Fine1 |
| 07:12.20 | slightlyrandom | Gotta do one thing at a time here |
| 07:12.25 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 07:12.27 | deathnight114 | Fine :D |
| 07:12.33 | Clord | you can't multitask? |
| 07:12.33 | slightlyrandom | So, pick each player in (Active Players) |
| 07:12.34 | Clord | XD |
| 07:12.37 | KiwiWarrior | is slightlylike the god of galaxy editor? |
| 07:12.42 | slightlyrandom | Hah, far from it |
| 07:12.56 | slightlyrandom | I seem to be the guy that has the patience to help new people out, though |
| 07:13.04 | onetwo | <-- |
| 07:13.05 | KiwiWarrior | i see |
| 07:13.08 | slightlyrandom | onetwo: Is too busy spending his time making tutorials |
| 07:13.11 | slightlyrandom | and he is never here, anyway |
| 07:13.13 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 07:13.14 | deathnight114 | He's been using it longer than all of us |
| 07:13.21 | deathnight114 | In otherwords: Yes |
| 07:13.24 | deathnight114 | XD |
| 07:13.43 | slightlyrandom | Pick Each Player in Active Players and do Action, Copy your Create Unit action in there |
| 07:14.08 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:14.11 | slightlyrandom | Then change the For Player 1 to For Player (Picked Player) |
| 07:14.17 | slightlyrandom | yees |
| 07:14.27 | deathnight114 | But.... That one is already there... |
| 07:14.29 | deathnight114 | OH |
| 07:14.33 | deathnight114 | We'll change point right? |
| 07:14.40 | slightlyrandom | Copy -> cut |
| 07:14.41 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 07:14.48 | deathnight114 | ....? |
| 07:14.49 | onetwo | this is where i spend my time now: hotmail inbox: http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3489/inbox.jpg |
| 07:14.53 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:15.03 | slightlyrandom | :D |
| 07:15.03 | deathnight114 | YAY!!!!! |
| 07:15.05 | deathnight114 | SAMe |
| 07:15.09 | deathnight114 | ACCEPT THEY NEVER EMAIL ME LOL |
| 07:15.09 | allenmelon | nice |
| 07:15.16 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:15.20 | deathnight114 | youtube.com/user/deathnight114 I prolly got more subs though XD |
| 07:15.28 | LordAbyss | lol onetwo |
| 07:15.35 | LordAbyss | i don't nearly have that much |
| 07:15.36 | LordAbyss | haha |
| 07:15.37 | slightlyrandom | You with me KiwiWarrior? |
| 07:15.39 | onetwo | almost 1k :D |
| 07:15.40 | deathnight114 | I have like |
| 07:15.42 | deathnight114 | 10x more |
| 07:15.44 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 07:15.46 | deathnight114 | oh |
| 07:15.48 | deathnight114 | nvm |
| 07:15.49 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 07:15.51 | deathnight114 | Whats ur YT Acc? |
| 07:15.55 | onetwo | youtube.com/onetwosc |
| 07:15.56 | KiwiWarrior | yes |
| 07:16.05 | KiwiWarrior | just went and looked at onetwos picture |
| 07:16.06 | KiwiWarrior | xD |
| 07:16.10 | deathnight114 | noice |
| 07:16.13 | deathnight114 | Gj |
| 07:16.16 | slightlyrandom | heh |
| 07:16.19 | onetwo | it litereally trippled since release |
| 07:16.20 | deathnight114 | I'm only @ 369 subs atm |
| 07:16.37 | Clord | as I really would do much with knowing what is behind those blacked things |
| 07:16.40 | Clord | aka nothing |
| 07:16.44 | onetwo | peoples names |
| 07:16.44 | deathnight114 | GJ On your success onetwo |
| 07:16.46 | deathnight114 | :) |
| 07:16.46 | onetwo | its for them |
| 07:16.47 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:16.48 | onetwo | not me |
| 07:16.51 | onetwo | thx deathknight |
| 07:16.54 | onetwo | i wish you subs too :) |
| 07:16.58 | KiwiWarrior | omg its dat cord guy the guy dat made the best map EVER |
| 07:17.04 | deathnight114 | MY NAME IS DEATHNIGHT auoklhfdoklaudfghjloiaernolaqeigoraqtihngoauirghjoJIRGA SPELL IT RIGHT |
| 07:17.12 | onetwo | i type too fast |
| 07:17.13 | onetwo | to read |
| 07:17.19 | onetwo | think later |
| 07:17.20 | onetwo | do now |
| 07:17.26 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.28 | slightlyrandom | Clord, your fanclub has arrived |
| 07:17.28 | deathnight114 | Done |
| 07:17.33 | onetwo | Clord |
| 07:17.35 | onetwo | <3 |
| 07:17.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:17.36 | KiwiWarrior | lol |
| 07:17.40 | Clord | lol |
| 07:17.44 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 07:17.47 | slightlyrandom | lol |
| 07:17.48 | deathnight114 | C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER |
| 07:17.54 | Clord | lame |
| 07:18.00 | KiwiWarrior | any way back on to it slight xD |
| 07:18.01 | Clord | don't break awesome combos |
| 07:18.01 | onetwo | is it See-lord, Klord, or what? |
| 07:18.04 | slightlyrandom | Right |
| 07:18.05 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:18.24 | Clord | matter of what language you try to say this nickname |
| 07:18.25 | Clord | lol |
| 07:18.26 | slightlyrandom | That'll make it pick all the players that are playing, and spawn a unit for each of them |
| 07:18.33 | onetwo | its funny though, my youtube channel basically died |
| 07:18.35 | onetwo | before sc2 release |
| 07:18.37 | onetwo | then one night |
| 07:18.41 | onetwo | tuesday or wednesdany |
| 07:18.41 | Saeris | hmmm |
| 07:18.44 | onetwo | BOOM |
| 07:18.46 | onetwo | 30 emails |
| 07:18.49 | onetwo | every day |
| 07:18.55 | Saeris | is there a type of validator i can use to check the range between 2 units? |
| 07:18.56 | Clord | lol same can be said of my site |
| 07:18.56 | deathnight114 | Dude |
| 07:18.58 | deathnight114 | Turn it off |
| 07:19.02 | Clord | I kept huge tournament with one other guy |
| 07:19.03 | slightlyrandom | But they all get marines currently, so you need to change the UnitType[1] to [UnitType[PlayerLevel] |
| 07:19.05 | deathnight114 | You can disable email notifications |
| 07:19.05 | Clord | tons of teams and more |
| 07:19.08 | deathnight114 | Just check it on Youtube |
| 07:19.10 | Clord | then after it... site just died |
| 07:19.11 | onetwo | i need to respond to my old broken tuts |
| 07:19.15 | Clord | starcraft 2 revived it |
| 07:19.19 | onetwo | yeah |
| 07:19.20 | onetwo | Clord |
| 07:19.21 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:19.21 | Saeris | such as a unit with an aura and the unit receiving the buff? |
| 07:19.27 | deathnight114 | onetwo, you can check on Youtube |
| 07:19.30 | onetwo | yeah? |
| 07:19.34 | deathnight114 | You dont need YT To flood your emails |
| 07:19.39 | deathnight114 | yeah... just go to youtube.com homepage |
| 07:19.43 | onetwo | kk |
| 07:19.43 | KiwiWarrior | *licks clord* |
| 07:19.45 | deathnight114 | And it will list all your pm's and everything |
| 07:19.56 | deathnight114 | There you go http://www.youtube.com/inbox?folder=messages&action_message=1 |
| 07:19.57 | onetwo | oh wow |
| 07:19.58 | onetwo | not just pms |
| 07:20.00 | onetwo | but comments too |
| 07:20.07 | deathnight114 | Exactly |
| 07:20.10 | deathnight114 | Shows everything |
| 07:20.12 | onetwo | interesting |
| 07:20.12 | deathnight114 | Right there |
| 07:20.14 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 07:20.22 | onetwo | thats good they did that |
| 07:20.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster Gank_ (~Gank@c-98-238-182-253.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:20.25 | Clord | now that my site finally after two years has popular project |
| 07:20.25 | onetwo | i thought it was only a PM system |
| 07:20.27 | Clord | I feel great |
| 07:20.28 | Clord | lol |
| 07:20.28 | deathnight114 | Amazing, it took you, till 930 subscribers to realize LOL |
| 07:20.32 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:20.37 | onetwo | i just do my thing |
| 07:20.38 | deathnight114 | It took me till 74 |
| 07:20.38 | onetwo | and leave |
| 07:20.38 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:21.08 | Clord | let's "read" suggestions and whine on my site... sight |
| 07:21.09 | Clord | XD |
| 07:21.14 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:21.37 | Clord | oh I think correct term is "sigh" |
| 07:21.39 | Clord | whateva |
| 07:22.11 | Clord | http://www.revolutionalarts.com/showthread.php?t=410&page=3 |
| 07:22.14 | deathnight114 | slightlyrandom, kiwiwarrier, you guys gonna finish? |
| 07:22.23 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, in a private chat |
| 07:22.26 | slightlyrandom | This one got a bit hectic |
| 07:22.27 | deathnight114 | My site is dead :( usermusic.webs.com |
| 07:22.29 | deathnight114 | Ahh, kk |
| 07:22.30 | onetwo | k gotta go work on campaign |
| 07:22.31 | slightlyrandom | wanna join ? |
| 07:22.33 | onetwo | afk |
| 07:22.35 | deathnight114 | Guess im just.... not gonna finish then |
| 07:22.37 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 07:22.45 | deathnight114 | naw, i'm fine, having fun in this chat for now |
| 07:23.15 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 07:23.53 | Clord | http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1528/countersz.jpg |
| 07:24.48 | deathnight114 | Rock-Paper-Scissors |
| 07:25.06 | Clord | yeah |
| 07:25.24 | Clord | it can be translated also as: don't send immortal against hydralisk you idiot |
| 07:25.25 | Clord | XD |
| 07:25.25 | deathnight114 | Dont think i could kill a stalker with a medivak |
| 07:25.35 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:25.45 | jorgenpt | Clord: Is your map on US too? |
| 07:25.49 | Clord | that is card game map screenshot of rock paper scissors |
| 07:25.55 | Clord | yeah |
| 07:25.58 | Clord | it should be in US too |
| 07:26.01 | deathnight114 | Yeah |
| 07:26.03 | slightlyrandom | Clord: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://weng.ikm04.dk/pic/therules.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.slurpy.org/s/th6sqz/interesting/End_construction/&h=668&w=658&sz=178&tbnid=qAip_uj1VtC-0M:&tbnh=138&tbnw=136&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dultimate%2Brock%2Bpaper%2Bscissors&hl=en&usg=__DDnEecpmBs-wjayRbRoxUzNROEI=&sa=X&ei=d5ZnTJPQDMKZONW9uLgF&ved=0CCgQ9QEwBg |
| 07:26.06 | deathnight114 | But it's pretty far down |
| 07:26.14 | jorgenpt | I wanna try it some day. |
| 07:26.15 | deathnight114 | Long link much? |
| 07:26.25 | jorgenpt | Wish you could /search/ maps. |
| 07:26.39 | deathnight114 | You can in create |
| 07:26.41 | deathnight114 | :( |
| 07:26.44 | Clord | you can search maps... people just usually not realize to go "create game" place |
| 07:26.55 | deathnight114 | it is possible to play it with two players? |
| 07:26.55 | jorgenpt | Don't I need to download it first? |
| 07:27.00 | deathnight114 | Nope |
| 07:27.02 | deathnight114 | You don't |
| 07:27.13 | Sixen | whoa |
| 07:27.15 | Sixen | fullhouse right now |
| 07:27.20 | Sixen | we're just missing vjeux |
| 07:27.22 | KiwiWarrior | clord your map is 2nd from top is most played in the SEA server xD |
| 07:27.38 | Sixen | nice |
| 07:27.41 | Clord | that is super fictional counter system... lol dragon beats devil? |
| 07:27.41 | Sixen | what map is it, Kiwi? |
| 07:27.41 | Clord | XD |
| 07:27.49 | KiwiWarrior | we all love clord and his card game |
| 07:27.54 | jorgenpt | Category: Featured by? |
| 07:28.09 | Clord | I forgot to set category before it was too late to change |
| 07:28.16 | Clord | now always on top there is wrong category as most played |
| 07:28.17 | Clord | of my map |
| 07:28.18 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:28.29 | jorgenpt | :-p |
| 07:28.32 | deathnight114 | HOW DOES A SPONGE BEAT PAPER |
| 07:28.36 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 07:28.44 | jorgenpt | What's newest version? 0.1? |
| 07:29.02 | deathnight114 | fcvffffffff |
| 07:29.40 | jorgenpt | Clord: Newest on US is 0.1. |
| 07:29.56 | Clord | water beats fire.... fire beats wind... wind beats lighting.... lighting beats water |
| 07:30.09 | deathnight114 | Why |
| 07:30.11 | deathnight114 | The fuck |
| 07:30.15 | deathnight114 | Is nexus wars |
| 07:30.15 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:30.18 | deathnight114 | Still @ The top |
| 07:30.23 | deathnight114 | I HATE NEXUS WARS -_- |
| 07:30.34 | Clord | my online friend found way quite quickly to abuse nexus wars balance |
| 07:30.38 | Clord | it is about spam just marine |
| 07:30.40 | Clord | do nothing else |
| 07:30.42 | Clord | and win |
| 07:30.44 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 07:30.47 | deathnight114 | Collosi much? |
| 07:30.55 | jorgenpt | Clord: So is 0.1 the newest version? |
| 07:31.15 | Clord | only EU version has right version number.... but yeah it can be quite new version in other regions |
| 07:31.16 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:31.29 | Clord | in EU it is 1.66 |
| 07:31.30 | Clord | lol |
| 07:31.33 | jorgenpt | You should get your publisher person to republish until it hits right version. :-p |
| 07:31.43 | jorgenpt | Oh wow, that'll take a bit of time. ^_^ |
| 07:32.00 | jorgenpt | Man, Blizzard needs to make a cross-regional publishing system. |
| 07:32.11 | Clord | yeah |
| 07:32.50 | jorgenpt | Anyway, good night. :-) |
| 07:33.01 | KiwiWarrior | no no blizzards need to kill SEA and make it just the usa servers |
| 07:33.02 | KiwiWarrior | xD |
| 07:33.08 | Clord | good morning |
| 07:33.09 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:33.59 | Clord | yeah.... EU version already has more cards... etc |
| 07:34.12 | Clord | I think |
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| 07:34.56 | Clord | map is quite damn tactical in 1v1 lol >_> |
| 07:35.56 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rodrigo (cf06e61b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.6.230.27) |
| 07:36.08 | Rodrigo | DEBATES - PRIVATE MATCH NOW - ADD ME: Rodrigo.881 |
| 07:37.22 | allenmelon | lol |
| 07:37.29 | allenmelon | is it fun?? even though i suck at debating? |
| 07:37.41 | Clord | I still have no idea why such map like DEBATES is not banned yet |
| 07:38.18 | Clord | lol |
| 07:38.25 | allenmelon | i needa make a map... |
| 07:38.55 | Rodrigo | yes |
| 07:39.01 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 07:39.28 | Rodrigo | Blizzard doesn't want to ban the only map that shows the power of map editor |
| 07:40.00 | Rodrigo | text boxes, online crypted ranking.... |
| 07:40.06 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 07:40.19 | Clord | better treat still carefully |
| 07:40.25 | Rodrigo | the first non-popular map that does not load terrain |
| 07:40.27 | Clord | you don't want put thread about anything WWII related |
| 07:40.30 | Clord | or hell break loose |
| 07:40.30 | Clord | XD |
| 07:40.33 | Rodrigo | I mean |
| 07:40.39 | Rodrigo | the first popular map that does not load terrain |
| 07:40.50 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 07:40.57 | Rodrigo | I know... I am careful |
| 07:41.08 | Rodrigo | I was going to add the thought of the week "Penis is better than Vagina" |
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| 07:41.12 | Rodrigo | but I dont want my map banned |
| 07:41.14 | Clord | lol... for example "was hither good guy?" BANHAMMER |
| 07:41.14 | Clord | XD |
| 07:41.20 | Rodrigo | hey |
| 07:41.23 | Clord | map dissappears from realms |
| 07:41.24 | Clord | ^^ |
| 07:41.28 | Rodrigo | theres this one |
| 07:41.33 | Rodrigo | hittler is a good guy |
| 07:41.41 | Rodrigo | theres this one from more than 3 weeks |
| 07:41.52 | Rodrigo | and there was a rage on this thought once |
| 07:41.53 | Bablo | does anyone know, where you can modify that if a damage effect does extra damage to certain types of units? |
| 07:42.04 | Rodrigo | anyway |
| 07:42.08 | Rodrigo | Debates - private match NOWWWWWW |
| 07:42.12 | Rodrigo | ADD ME: RODRIGO.881 |
| 07:42.16 | Rodrigo | video --> youtube |
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| 07:44.07 | Rodrigo | 2 players left |
| 07:44.13 | Rodrigo | DEBATES - PRIVATE MATCH - 2 PLAYERS LEFT |
| 07:44.21 | Rodrigo | add me: Rodrigo.881 |
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| 07:44.48 | slightlyrandom | So, people |
| 07:44.59 | slightlyrandom | What's the event for detecting when a morph finishes ? |
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| 07:45.24 | deathnight114 | noidea |
| 07:45.45 | deathnight114 | Anyone remember good ole starcraft 1 unit AI? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCpUsmuQG3E&feature=related XD |
| 07:47.06 | deathnight114 | Night all |
| 07:47.07 | Rayden | interesting |
| 07:47.19 | Rayden | different resolution ratios allow for different sizes of the map to be shown |
| 07:47.30 | Rayden | but the game does restrict how skewed you can do in windowed mod |
| 07:50.19 | Rayden | hmm |
| 07:50.28 | Rayden | i should probably not make any of my weapons farther than screen distance |
| 07:50.40 | Rayden | although i might be pulling the camera out some... |
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| 07:52.39 | Rodrigo | DEBATES - PRIVATE MATCH - 1 PLAYER LEFT |
| 07:52.53 | Rodrigo | 2 players from the top ranking is in game |
| 07:53.01 | Rodrigo | video will be recorded |
| 07:53.22 | Rayden | does anyone know the trigger to set camera height off the top of their head? |
| 07:53.24 | Rodrigo | add me: Rodrigo.881 |
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| 08:00.46 | Rayden | can you put triggers in a mod? |
| 08:00.49 | Rayden | or just data? |
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| 08:02.02 | Rayden | apparently you can't make triggers |
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| 08:05.54 | Ka[L]ekin | Anyone know if it is possible to prevent a unit from instantly changing velocity when ordering it to move in an opposite direction? |
| 08:06.02 | Ka[L]ekin | Without forcing it through triggers |
| 08:06.15 | slightlyrandom | Well |
| 08:06.24 | Ka[L]ekin | If a unit starts moving it takes 4 seconds to reach a velocity of 10 units |
| 08:06.25 | slightlyrandom | There's a flag for Turn Before Move |
| 08:06.28 | slightlyrandom | That'd do it :P |
| 08:06.43 | slightlyrandom | But it might have some other effects you don't want |
| 08:06.44 | Ka[L]ekin | Unfortunately I don't want the unit to turn :( |
| 08:06.57 | Ka[L]ekin | The unit moves independent of facing direction |
| 08:07.46 | slightlyrandom | Have you played around with deceleration and lateral acceleration ? |
| 08:09.24 | Ka[L]ekin | Well the unit has a deceleration of 0 |
| 08:09.26 | slightlyrandom | Lateral Acceleration makes the unit turn in less tight corners |
| 08:09.27 | slightlyrandom | But |
| 08:09.33 | Ka[L]ekin | which causes the deceleration to depend on it's acceleration |
| 08:09.41 | slightlyrandom | I still think you can make it flip direction 180 instantly |
| 08:09.41 | Ka[L]ekin | but I can fidle with altteral accel |
| 08:09.43 | Rayden | you mean give units inertia? |
| 08:09.52 | Ka[L]ekin | Rayden, yes |
| 08:09.56 | Ka[L]ekin | think of a hellicopter |
| 08:10.01 | Rayden | rotationally or linearly? |
| 08:10.01 | Ka[L]ekin | which is basically what my unit is at the moment |
| 08:10.06 | Ka[L]ekin | As it changes direction |
| 08:10.08 | Ka[L]ekin | it slides |
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| 08:10.17 | Rayden | you can prevent units from rotating |
| 08:10.19 | Ka[L]ekin | but if your change in direction is great enough (ie 180) |
| 08:10.24 | Ka[L]ekin | the velocity changes instantly |
| 08:10.30 | Rayden | yeah i know what you mean |
| 08:10.37 | Rayden | it turns 180 faster than it turns 90 |
| 08:11.13 | Rayden | is there a page that shows the various texture for the various texture sets? |
| 08:11.18 | Rayden | to help me pick which one i want to use |
| 08:11.32 | slightlyrandom | No, but great idea, make one :P |
| 08:11.40 | Rayden | i also want a button one |
| 08:11.51 | Rayden | first thing i do is make a map with one of each unit to look at |
| 08:12.13 | Ka[L]ekin | I already have it prevented from rotating |
| 08:12.18 | Ka[L]ekin | doesn't fix the velocity issue :/ |
| 08:12.42 | Rayden | how big should i make my dota'ish map |
| 08:12.45 | Ka[L]ekin | The answere may be to simply track it through the movement trigger |
| 08:12.45 | Rayden | 128128 seems small |
| 08:12.48 | Rayden | 256x246? |
| 08:12.52 | Ka[L]ekin | and compensate |
| 08:12.52 | Rayden | eh |
| 08:12.53 | Rayden | that sucks |
| 08:12.57 | Rayden | should be able to do it via data |
| 08:13.06 | Ka[L]ekin | That would be my ideal solution, yes. :/ |
| 08:13.07 | Coolflip | How would you pick every enemy unit? |
| 08:13.55 | slightlyrandom | Pick Each Unit in Unit Group |
| 08:14.01 | slightlyrandom | Units Matching Condition |
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| 08:14.25 | Rayden | so even if you mess with Turning Rate it doesn't change it? |
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| 08:14.41 | slightlyrandom | Sadly, SC2 always allows flipping direction |
| 08:14.48 | slightlyrandom | presumably for micro purposes |
| 08:15.02 | slightlyrandom | "always" |
| 08:15.03 | Ka[L]ekin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.08 | slightlyrandom | I haven't found the thing that turns it off |
| 08:15.08 | Ka[L]ekin | see if anything helps |
| 08:15.17 | slightlyrandom | If you figure that one out, please share :) |
| 08:15.22 | Rayden | it would feel very unresponsible without the flipping |
| 08:15.34 | slightlyrandom | responsive? Yeah |
| 08:15.37 | Ka[L]ekin | It's meant to feel a little cumbersome though |
| 08:15.39 | Rayden | i need to turn on collision for my air units... |
| 08:15.52 | Ka[L]ekin | If you see the context it is controlled in |
| 08:15.52 | Rayden | you stil have the same lateral acceleration |
| 08:15.56 | Rayden | it just doesn't take forever to rotate |
| 08:15.58 | Ka[L]ekin | you would understand why |
| 08:16.08 | Ka[L]ekin | But having it flip like that feels very unatural |
| 08:16.15 | Ka[L]ekin | You expected it to slide |
| 08:16.23 | Rayden | yeah |
| 08:16.34 | slightlyrandom | Does it stop instantly ? |
| 08:16.38 | slightlyrandom | if you press stop |
| 08:16.42 | Rayden | there is a deceleration setting |
| 08:16.47 | Ka[L]ekin | If you press stop yes it stops instantly |
| 08:16.51 | Ka[L]ekin | but I stop it by ordering it to a point |
| 08:16.59 | Ka[L]ekin | So it decelerates smoothly |
| 08:17.15 | slightlyrandom | Well, thats one solution |
| 08:17.25 | Ka[L]ekin | Well that is my last resort |
| 08:17.36 | Ka[L]ekin | instead of ordering it to point on the opposite side when the movement direction is changed |
| 08:17.39 | slightlyrandom | Order to point, then waypoint to ordered location |
| 08:17.41 | Ka[L]ekin | it slowly shifts the ordered movement point |
| 08:17.48 | Ka[L]ekin | or that... |
| 08:17.49 | Rayden | do you need to be able to stop it? |
| 08:17.54 | Rayden | you could remove that from command card |
| 08:17.57 | Ka[L]ekin | No, I don't want instant stopping |
| 08:18.00 | Ka[L]ekin | it has no command cards |
| 08:18.05 | Ka[L]ekin | doesn't use the normal interface |
| 08:18.05 | Rayden | then how are you stopping it? |
| 08:18.20 | Ka[L]ekin | It stops naturally once it has reached it's destination |
| 08:18.45 | Ka[L]ekin | the movement trigger only orders it a specific distance ahead depending on input |
| 08:18.45 | Rayden | <Ka[L]ekin> If you press stop yes it stops instantly |
| 08:18.57 | Ka[L]ekin | I should say |
| 08:19.01 | Ka[L]ekin | If you *were* to press stop |
| 08:19.03 | Ka[L]ekin | it would stop instantly |
| 08:19.28 | Ka[L]ekin | But in it's current form it is not able to. |
| 08:19.48 | Chainclaw | How do you do ceilings? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joNPrnY4K_4#t=3m30s |
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| 08:21.00 | Rayden | are there any terrain/doodad things that would make sense to block air units? |
| 08:21.08 | Rayden | i don't recall seeing anything that blocks air in the campaign |
| 08:21.09 | Rodrigo | DEBATES - PRIVATE MATCH REMAKE - 2 PLAYERS LEFT - ADD ME: Rodrigo.881 |
| 08:21.11 | Ka[L]ekin | There are some |
| 08:21.15 | Ka[L]ekin | there are a few in the campaign actually |
| 08:21.31 | Rodrigo | DEBATES - PRIVATE MATCH REMAKE - 2 PLAYERS LEFT - ADD ME: Rodrigo.881 (recording the game) |
| 08:21.51 | Rayden | like what? |
| 08:21.58 | Rayden | my map is all spaceships |
| 08:22.00 | Rayden | but i want paths |
| 08:22.02 | Rayden | :( |
| 08:22.06 | Ka[L]ekin | Remember the map where you have your battlecruisers and need to destroy those things that generate the field that destroys units |
| 08:22.12 | Ka[L]ekin | I know there are some there |
| 08:22.18 | Rayden | really? |
| 08:22.21 | Ka[L]ekin | Just look for the very tall doodads |
| 08:22.24 | Rayden | i do'nt remember anything that blocked me |
| 08:22.24 | Ka[L]ekin | ye |
| 08:22.29 | Rayden | very tall stuff... |
| 08:22.35 | Ka[L]ekin | There was that one |
| 08:22.37 | Rayden | unfortunately i think that would look hideous |
| 08:22.39 | Rayden | all cluttered |
| 08:22.43 | Rayden | i may just make them ground units |
| 08:22.43 | Ka[L]ekin | and the one with the firewall I remember getting blocked |
| 08:22.51 | slightlyrandom | Chainclaw: I'd just either do doodads with overhang, or flip some and plant em with a height |
| 08:23.00 | Chainclaw | cool |
| 08:23.14 | Dashkal | Couldn't you just look up that doodad and see how they block things, then set that flag on something else? |
| 08:23.17 | Ka[L]ekin | I am sure there are more on most maps |
| 08:23.27 | Ka[L]ekin | but those are the ones you were pretty focused on air units |
| 08:24.02 | slightlyrandom | Dashkal: The actual Path blocking is fairly easy |
| 08:24.07 | slightlyrandom | There's a No Fly path blocker |
| 08:24.09 | Rayden | yeah, you can just draw it |
| 08:24.23 | Ka[L]ekin | Rayden, aren't there air path blockers thogh? |
| 08:24.24 | Rayden | oh |
| 08:24.26 | Galois-evariste | can anyone explain for me what "Pathing Cost" is? |
| 08:24.26 | Rayden | no you can't |
| 08:24.38 | Rayden | you just have to play no fly zone doodads |
| 08:24.39 | Rayden | weird |
| 08:24.39 | Ka[L]ekin | Or are you just looking for doodads |
| 08:24.47 | Ka[L]ekin | mmm |
| 08:24.48 | Ka[L]ekin | >_< |
| 08:24.51 | slightlyrandom | Yes Galois-evariste |
| 08:24.54 | Dashkal | Drag the terrain really high and use the no fly blocker? |
| 08:24.59 | slightlyrandom | How far a unit has to travel to get somewhere |
| 08:25.14 | Ka[L]ekin | slightlyrandom, silly question because I am sure I have fiddled with this before, but where the heck is latteral acceleration? |
| 08:25.21 | Ka[L]ekin | I don't see it in my unit's data table |
| 08:25.24 | slightlyrandom | Unit - Movement |
| 08:25.37 | Galois-evariste | so its just distance |
| 08:25.38 | Ka[L]ekin | Nope |
| 08:25.39 | Ka[L]ekin | o.o |
| 08:25.45 | Galois-evariste | of the path the game lets the unit take |
| 08:25.47 | Rayden | Kalekin, lateral acceleration is how fast it moves laterally |
| 08:25.50 | slightlyrandom | Yes |
| 08:25.52 | Galois-evariste | right on |
| 08:25.54 | Rayden | that is normal acceleration |
| 08:25.54 | Ka[L]ekin | I figured. |
| 08:26.01 | slightlyrandom | Movement - Lateral Acceleration |
| 08:26.02 | Rayden | as opposed to rotational acceleration |
| 08:26.14 | Ka[L]ekin | Oh, just Movement-Acceleration then? |
| 08:26.25 | slightlyrandom | Well, it's used to determine turn radii, as far as I can tell |
| 08:26.37 | Ka[L]ekin | slightlyrandom, I think they may have removed it |
| 08:26.40 | Ka[L]ekin | I also remember it being there... |
| 08:26.42 | Rayden | oh |
| 08:26.48 | Rayden | maybe lateral is when it's still rotating |
| 08:26.54 | slightlyrandom | It exists in my editor Ka[L]ekin :) |
| 08:27.02 | Ka[L]ekin | Wuuuuut. |
| 08:27.03 | Rayden | how much the unit accelerates sideways when turning |
| 08:27.03 | tehpanda | why doesnt using flash animations work |
| 08:27.06 | Rayden | that sounds better |
| 08:27.08 | Rayden | test it |
| 08:27.11 | slightlyrandom | Movement - Lateral Acceleration0 |
| 08:27.17 | Ka[L]ekin | Aaaah |
| 08:27.19 | Ka[L]ekin | Show advanced fields. |
| 08:27.21 | Ka[L]ekin | Silly editor. |
| 08:28.04 | Rayden | there isn't actually a no fly pathing |
| 08:28.06 | Rayden | stupid |
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| 08:28.11 | Rayden | so i'm going to have to make these ground units |
| 08:28.13 | slightlyrandom | Has anyone got any awesome ideas for creating a button that'll detect Mouse Button Down ? |
| 08:28.21 | Dashkal | Wait what? I've seen no fly zones on campaign maps |
| 08:28.28 | Rayden | there is a no fly doodad |
| 08:28.31 | Rayden | but you can't paid it |
| 08:28.33 | Rayden | paint* |
| 08:28.55 | Ka[L]ekin | Well |
| 08:29.01 | Ka[L]ekin | that works awesomely for the lateral slide |
| 08:29.03 | onetwo | is there any point to the zeratul missions aside from extra knowledge |
| 08:29.05 | Ka[L]ekin | when turning a little bit |
| 08:29.08 | slightlyrandom | My attempts to detect it anywhere with condition, within boundary has been thwarted by aspect ratios |
| 08:29.12 | Rayden | what does it do ka? |
| 08:29.12 | Ka[L]ekin | but anything over 90 degrees is still yucky |
| 08:29.19 | Dashkal | onetwo: lots of research points |
| 08:29.22 | slightlyrandom | onetwo: Yeah, plot :P |
| 08:29.24 | onetwo | damn that sucks |
| 08:29.29 | Rayden | why onetwo ? |
| 08:29.35 | onetwo | im finding so far that the sc plot is much less interesting than war3's was |
| 08:29.41 | onetwo | i remember being way more engaged back then |
| 08:29.47 | Rayden | how far are you? |
| 08:29.50 | Rayden | i never finished war3 |
| 08:29.52 | onetwo | maybe it was the heroes i dont know |
| 08:29.56 | Rayden | i love the orcs, but the orc campaign beat me |
| 08:29.56 | Dashkal | I disagree. I found SC2s far more compelling |
| 08:30.03 | Rayden | it got so boring |
| 08:30.07 | onetwo | i find it too simple maybe |
| 08:30.15 | onetwo | sc basically doesnt have heroes |
| 08:30.17 | Rayden | there is no clear main plot to sc2 |
| 08:30.17 | slightlyrandom | I like the variety in the maps, though |
| 08:30.18 | onetwo | so that takes out huge work |
| 08:30.20 | Rayden | not until the end |
| 08:30.22 | onetwo | ah |
| 08:30.22 | onetwo | k |
| 08:30.27 | onetwo | i kind of dont like that |
| 08:30.32 | Rayden | it's all mini plots right? |
| 08:30.35 | onetwo | its not bad im just saying i think i preferred |
| 08:30.36 | Dashkal | You prefer your plots linier? |
| 08:30.37 | onetwo | one linear plot |
| 08:30.45 | onetwo | i feel like im just milling about |
| 08:30.45 | Rayden | you got the tosh ones, the scientist one, the tychus one |
| 08:30.46 | Dashkal | I liked the substories. |
| 08:30.47 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:30.52 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 08:30.54 | Galois-evariste | sc2's plot is retarded |
| 08:30.55 | Rayden | it's cool you can switch between them |
| 08:30.56 | slightlyrandom | onetwo ! |
| 08:30.57 | Sixen | onetwo is a beast. |
| 08:30.59 | Dashkal | Do a set in order if you want a more cohesive story. |
| 08:31.00 | Rayden | but it's not as focused |
| 08:31.01 | Galois-evariste | its a cliche 80s movie |
| 08:31.02 | slightlyrandom | Help me with this damned button |
| 08:31.07 | Galois-evariste | and its got nothing on the first two plots |
| 08:31.20 | Galois-evariste | in sc and bw there was all kinds of backstabbing, trickery, deceit, and subplots |
| 08:31.22 | Galois-evariste | in this game |
| 08:31.24 | onetwo | ah |
| 08:31.37 | Galois-evariste | its like "lol im gonna ignore that ive been backstabbed constantly in the past 8 games and trust tychus even though he's being suspicious as fuck" |
| 08:31.38 | Rayden | what is Vision Height? |
| 08:31.39 | onetwo | well i cant really tell you where i am |
| 08:31.45 | onetwo | since ive been randomly clicking on planets |
| 08:31.48 | Dashkal | backstabbing? check. trickery? check. deceit? check. |
| 08:31.48 | Galois-evariste | there are way too many holes in this |
| 08:31.54 | Dashkal | Have you finished the story? O.o |
| 08:31.54 | onetwo | i just got a game freeze on the kerrigan data core city one |
| 08:31.57 | Galois-evariste | oh please dashkal |
| 08:32.04 | Galois-evariste | you can see that shit coming a mile away |
| 08:32.06 | Galois-evariste | they give you hints and shit |
| 08:32.08 | Galois-evariste | its obvious and cliche |
| 08:32.10 | Galois-evariste | in brood war and sc |
| 08:32.13 | Galois-evariste | you never saw it coming |
| 08:32.14 | onetwo | Pulsar |
| 08:32.15 | onetwo | wait |
| 08:32.17 | Galois-evariste | you had no hints |
| 08:32.17 | onetwo | i wonder who that guy is |
| 08:32.22 | onetwo | i knew a Pulsar in WoW |
| 08:32.23 | Rayden | when the game does actually branch, it mostly bugs me because i feel like missing out |
| 08:32.24 | onetwo | hmmm |
| 08:32.28 | Rayden | you don't know who who is? |
| 08:32.28 | Dashkal | Duran? Sorry, saw that coming from the moment he was introduced |
| 08:32.29 | Galois-evariste | you had no idea that duran was evil until he turned on you |
| 08:32.36 | Galois-evariste | oh please |
| 08:32.44 | Galois-evariste | bullshit |
| 08:32.53 | Galois-evariste | duran's introduction was "hey i'm from this planet and i can help you out" |
| 08:32.53 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:32.57 | Galois-evariste | no hint at all |
| 08:32.58 | onetwo | you guys are hilarious |
| 08:33.01 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 08:33.02 | Galois-evariste | don't lie |
| 08:33.22 | Galois-evariste | in sc2's plot |
| 08:33.25 | Dashkal | Dude just happens to be willing to help an invading earth force that sure as hell won't bring back the government his group is fighting for? Bullshit all over that |
| 08:33.26 | Galois-evariste | everything is given to you early |
| 08:33.26 | Rayden | just do the viking mission super early and then blast through all themissions |
| 08:33.28 | Galois-evariste | its very transparent |
| 08:33.36 | Rodrigo | PRIVATE MATCH - RECORDING MATCH TO DISPLAY IN MY VIDEO ABOUT TROLLS NEXT WEEK |
| 08:33.37 | onetwo | i think its just that i like fantasy more than sci fi |
| 08:33.40 | onetwo | and hero gameplay appealed to me more |
| 08:33.44 | Rodrigo | DEbates - private match - 2 players left |
| 08:33.44 | Rayden | i dunno |
| 08:33.52 | Rayden | the starcraft universe is awesome |
| 08:33.54 | Rodrigo | add me: Rodrigo.881 |
| 08:33.57 | Rayden | but i don't really care about the people very much |
| 08:34.01 | onetwo | same |
| 08:34.05 | Galois-evariste | hey dashkal |
| 08:34.05 | onetwo | whereas in war3 i found i did |
| 08:34.08 | Rayden | it seems like next to WH40K, it's kind of shallow |
| 08:34.10 | Galois-evariste | enemy of my enemy is my friend |
| 08:34.11 | Dashkal | onetwo: That's fair enough there. SC2 is much more about the massive army than the tight groups of wc3 |
| 08:34.14 | Otixa | Pikachu |
| 08:34.16 | onetwo | yeah |
| 08:34.16 | onetwo | true |
| 08:34.20 | Otixa | PICK@U |
| 08:34.24 | Rayden | yes, war3 was more compelling |
| 08:34.35 | Rayden | the problem in sc2 from what i can see, is there's no bad guy |
| 08:34.35 | Otixa | kicks onetwo in the nuts |
| 08:34.36 | Dashkal | Galois-evariste: *shrugs* Just because you accepted his story doesn't mean everybody else did. |
| 08:34.36 | Otixa | :D |
| 08:34.40 | Rayden | there's no bad guy you fight |
| 08:34.50 | Rayden | how can a wargame be compelling without an antagonist? |
| 08:34.55 | Dashkal | sc2's story is definitely incomplete. |
| 08:35.07 | Dashkal | But that's more or less the point |
| 08:35.13 | onetwo | i think what bugs me most is the planet system, the fact that it's not linear makes me feel like I have to do work |
| 08:35.14 | Rayden | Fellowship of the Ring is incomplete |
| 08:35.16 | onetwo | and clear all the planets |
| 08:35.18 | Rayden | but you damn well know who the bad guy is |
| 08:35.20 | Dashkal | That said, the primary antogonish is revealed |
| 08:35.30 | Rayden | onetwo, at least it's not branching |
| 08:35.34 | onetwo | true |
| 08:35.43 | Rayden | then i'd feel like i was missing out on story |
| 08:35.46 | Rayden | i hate that |
| 08:35.48 | onetwo | yes |
| 08:35.52 | Rayden | plotlines, gotta catch them all |
| 08:35.54 | slightlyrandom | I'd prefer it to take the missions in order, too |
| 08:35.58 | onetwo | i did 3 of the zeratul missions |
| 08:35.58 | Galois-evariste | oh come on dashkal wtf |
| 08:36.01 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 08:36.03 | onetwo | and the next one was kill 1500 zerg |
| 08:36.04 | onetwo | i was like meh |
| 08:36.05 | Rayden | i like being able to pick which unit i want next |
| 08:36.06 | onetwo | whats the point |
| 08:36.07 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:36.09 | Dashkal | Even before the primary is revealed, you have Mengsk as a target, and Kerrigan as a target. |
| 08:36.10 | Galois-evariste | you can't tell me that sc2's plots were not even at least FAR more transparent than sc and bw |
| 08:36.13 | Rayden | and be able to take a break and do some protoss missions |
| 08:36.17 | Rayden | onetwo, try that one on hard |
| 08:36.18 | Rayden | 2000 zerg |
| 08:36.21 | Rayden | i died at like 900 |
| 08:36.25 | slightlyrandom | Heh |
| 08:36.29 | slightlyrandom | I got 1800 :( |
| 08:36.34 | Rayden | got owned twice and then did normal |
| 08:36.37 | Rayden | got super bored |
| 08:36.43 | onetwo | whats after it? |
| 08:36.44 | onetwo | anything good? |
| 08:36.46 | Galois-evariste | sc2 was straight out of the 1980s in terms of story |
| 08:36.49 | Rayden | 200/200 death squad of doom killing everything! |
| 08:36.52 | Rayden | onetwo, mission wise? |
| 08:36.52 | slightlyrandom | End of that line onetwo |
| 08:36.55 | Galois-evariste | and on top of that |
| 08:36.56 | onetwo | yes |
| 08:36.56 | Dashkal | Galois-evariste: I'm still reserving overall judgement on SC2's plot. With that said, I found it compelling and I had to power through the missions just to see how the story went. The plot was the whole reason I bought the game and I did not walk away disapointed. |
| 08:36.57 | onetwo | oh |
| 08:37.00 | Rayden | everyone dies |
| 08:37.03 | Rayden | what's after that? |
| 08:37.13 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 08:37.14 | onetwo | lo |
| 08:37.15 | Galois-evariste | ugh what kind of fucking argument is that |
| 08:37.16 | onetwo | i didnt play it yet |
| 08:37.19 | Rayden | you do know there is a gold expo right? |
| 08:37.23 | Rayden | i didn't see that till my normal game |
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| 08:37.28 | Galois-evariste | "i'm not judging sc2 but i'm going to argue against your judgement with my own" |
| 08:37.30 | Galois-evariste | bullshit |
| 08:37.37 | onetwo | hug and kiss guys |
| 08:37.39 | onetwo | :d |
| 08:37.42 | Galois-evariste | suck my dick instead |
| 08:37.43 | Dashkal | Ugh, I do dislike that mission. I hate being stomped (tis why I'll never do multiplayer). Doing a mission where you have to be stomped just depresses me. |
| 08:37.46 | Rayden | what RTS has had a good story though? |
| 08:37.51 | Rayden | at least SC2 is told well |
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| 08:37.55 | Rayden | the storytelling is polished |
| 08:37.57 | Rayden | even if the story sucks |
| 08:37.58 | onetwo | k well back to campaign |
| 08:38.00 | onetwo | afk |
| 08:38.05 | deathnight114 | hm... |
| 08:38.06 | Galois-evariste | well of course its polish |
| 08:38.07 | slightlyrandom | onetwo: got any interfac... nooo |
| 08:38.08 | Galois-evariste | ed |
| 08:38.12 | Dashkal | Galois-evariste: You obviously aren't understanding me. What lost you? |
| 08:38.14 | Galois-evariste | its fucking blizzar |
| 08:38.19 | Galois-evariste | what a dumb talking point |
| 08:38.20 | Rayden | i have homemade beef jerky stuck in my teeth |
| 08:38.27 | Dashkal | ohh, trool. gotcha |
| 08:38.30 | Dashkal | troll* |
| 08:38.30 | slightlyrandom | And to think this placed used to be so fucking nice until release |
| 08:38.35 | Galois-evariste | my god so many assholes in here |
| 08:38.38 | slightlyrandom | What the hell happened |
| 08:38.39 | Rayden | data editor question |
| 08:38.42 | Rayden | what is vision height? |
| 08:38.48 | Rayden | does that actually relate to terrain? |
| 08:38.51 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 08:38.58 | Rayden | terrain is at 0, 1, 2, 3? |
| 08:39.01 | slightlyrandom | Whether it can view over cliffs and that |
| 08:39.38 | Rayden | air units are at 4 and can see everything? |
| 08:40.01 | Rayden | so if i make something 3, can it see high terrain or no? |
| 08:40.07 | slightlyrandom | try it out :P |
| 08:40.11 | Rayden | yeah i am |
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| 08:40.53 | Rayden | um |
| 08:40.56 | Rayden | space is not toggling mode |
| 08:41.03 | Rayden | how do i stop making banshees?! |
| 08:41.10 | slightlyrandom | press T |
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| 08:42.22 | RaydenUnic | but saving from the data editor, so i could still use the terrain editor |
| 08:43.19 | slightlyrandom | Ugh, trying to make a button detect a mouse button press has me seriously stumped. |
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| 08:44.16 | slightlyrandom | All the builtin buttons detect button release |
| 08:44.31 | slightlyrandom | Argh |
| 08:44.52 | RaydenUnic | i thought trigger stuff used that? |
| 08:44.54 | Ka[L]ekin | What does the number in Movement - Turn Rate mean? |
| 08:44.56 | RaydenUnic | down and up |
| 08:45.01 | Ka[L]ekin | The number of degrees it can rotate in 1 game second? |
| 08:45.16 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, I was used a trigger to detect button down |
| 08:45.27 | RaydenUnic | i hate unitless numbers |
| 08:45.28 | slightlyrandom | and then constrained it to be within the button |
| 08:45.36 | Ka[L]ekin | Tell me about it :D |
| 08:45.41 | RaydenUnic | battlecruiser is 720 |
| 08:45.43 | slightlyrandom | But the button moves to different locations with aspect ratio changes |
| 08:45.44 | Hati | grml |
| 08:45.50 | RaydenUnic | think it can do 2 circles in a second? |
| 08:45.52 | Ka[L]ekin | Must be rotation per second then |
| 08:45.57 | Ka[L]ekin | Sounds like it. |
| 08:46.02 | RaydenUnic | so it's degrees |
| 08:46.09 | slightlyrandom | 720 rotations per second? |
| 08:46.15 | Ka[L]ekin | 720 degrees per second |
| 08:46.15 | Ka[L]ekin | :P |
| 08:46.16 | RaydenUnic | he means degrees |
| 08:46.17 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 08:46.23 | RaydenUnic | raven is like 1500 though |
| 08:46.26 | RaydenUnic | that's damn fast |
| 08:46.27 | Ka[L]ekin | Yep |
| 08:46.32 | slightlyrandom | That's wrong |
| 08:46.34 | slightlyrandom | Raven turns slower |
| 08:47.16 | RaydenUnic | yeah |
| 08:47.21 | RaydenUnic | it can't do 5 rotations in one second |
| 08:47.24 | RaydenUnic | unless it's flipping |
| 08:48.10 | RaydenUnic | so vision height doesn't seem to do anything |
| 08:48.14 | RaydenUnic | i set it to 0 but it still sees |
| 08:49.16 | slightlyrandom | There a way to detect a players aspect ratio ? |
| 08:49.33 | Dashkal | RaydenUnic: Sounds like you really do want ground units. Though you could almost certainly just use flier models on a ground unit with a little actor work. |
| 08:49.43 | RaydenUnic | yeah |
| 08:49.45 | RaydenUnic | mm |
| 08:49.49 | RaydenUnic | i need to use air actors though |
| 08:49.57 | RaydenUnic | because air units rotate when they turn |
| 08:49.58 | RaydenUnic | they bank |
| 08:50.05 | RaydenUnic | i made this guy ground pathing |
| 08:50.09 | RaydenUnic | vision height 0 |
| 08:50.28 | RaydenUnic | UI height has no gameplay influence does it? |
| 08:50.31 | RaydenUnic | only visuals? |
| 08:50.33 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 08:50.43 | slightlyrandom | The important bit is the pathing and the plane |
| 08:50.52 | Galois-evariste | question |
| 08:50.52 | RaydenUnic | plane is where it can be attacked |
| 08:51.09 | Galois-evariste | does a local trigger variable reset itself to default every time a trigger is called? |
| 08:51.09 | RaydenUnic | collide is another one |
| 08:51.27 | slightlyrandom | yes and no |
| 08:51.34 | Galois-evariste | ill rephrase |
| 08:51.44 | Galois-evariste | do i need to manually tell a variable to set itself to default at the beginning of a trigger's actions? |
| 08:51.45 | RaydenUnic | what is the scope of a local trigger variable? |
| 08:51.54 | Galois-evariste | its just a counting variable |
| 08:51.59 | Galois-evariste | an integer |
| 08:52.04 | RaydenUnic | i'm not asking you :P |
| 08:52.10 | Galois-evariste | >_> |
| 08:52.11 | RaydenUnic | i want to know what you want to know |
| 08:52.13 | slightlyrandom | counter variables are set in the loop |
| 08:52.22 | Galois-evariste | when you click on a trigger |
| 08:52.24 | slightlyrandom | and local variables are made on trigger create |
| 08:52.30 | Galois-evariste | you press ctrl+b and you have a local trigger variable |
| 08:52.40 | RaydenUnic | essentially, when is trigger scope created and destroyed? |
| 08:52.40 | slightlyrandom | trigger run, that is |
| 08:52.48 | RaydenUnic | are they popped ont he stack when called? |
| 08:52.54 | RaydenUnic | or "triggered" |
| 08:52.59 | Galois-evariste | so when the trigger is done going about its business, the local trigger variable is reset to default or destroyed? |
| 08:53.12 | slightlyrandom | It only exists for that particular instance of that particular trigger |
| 08:53.22 | Galois-evariste | then i don't need to set it to 0 at the beginning |
| 08:53.24 | Galois-evariste | gg |
| 08:53.45 | RaydenUnic | so after a trigger has resolved it's popped off the stack? assuming the scripting language is stack based |
| 08:53.51 | slightlyrandom | Something about that guy makes me hate his guts |
| 08:53.53 | RaydenUnic | Galois-evariste, you should set it to 0 |
| 08:54.01 | slightlyrandom | and yet I still answer his questions |
| 08:54.01 | RaydenUnic | who? |
| 08:54.03 | slightlyrandom | Galois-evariste: |
| 08:54.14 | Galois-evariste | alright |
| 08:54.17 | Dashkal | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.25 | RaydenUnic | his questions are valid |
| 08:54.28 | Galois-evariste | i'll remind it to be 0 - its not a problem, justfor safety sake |
| 08:54.28 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, been putting it off for... dunno why |
| 08:54.29 | RaydenUnic | at least this one |
| 08:54.33 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, but his attitude is hit |
| 08:54.34 | slightlyrandom | shit* |
| 08:54.45 | RaydenUnic | Galois-evariste, it is good practice to always initialize variables |
| 08:54.54 | RaydenUnic | assuming the compiler will do it for you is bad practice |
| 08:54.55 | Galois-evariste | derp |
| 08:55.03 | RaydenUnic | although i suppose within an editor, that's less important |
| 08:55.06 | Galois-evariste | aren't they initialized when i declare them at the beginning of a trigger? |
| 08:55.08 | RaydenUnic | since you will *never* use a different compiler |
| 08:55.14 | RaydenUnic | initialized to what? |
| 08:55.22 | slightlyrandom | to initial value |
| 08:55.23 | RaydenUnic | can you show me the api that says they are set to 0? :P |
| 08:55.42 | Galois-evariste | sure - ctrl+b |
| 08:55.51 | slightlyrandom | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.51 | slightlyrandom | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.01 | raydenuni | that's in the script produced? |
| 08:56.18 | raydenuni | so the editor is initializing it for you |
| 08:56.20 | raydenuni | that's nice |
| 08:57.08 | raydenuni | why does vision height not work? |
| 08:57.08 | raydenuni | grr |
| 08:57.27 | raydenuni | does anything use vision height that isn't 0 or 4? |
| 08:58.30 | Dashkal | Check the colossus |
| 08:58.57 | raydenuni | 4 |
| 08:59.04 | raydenuni | that was my first thought |
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| 08:59.21 | DarkPrince | raydenuni I confirmed vision height just a minute ago. |
| 08:59.24 | Dashkal | That was the only one I could think of that does something odd with sighting. I'm curious if he can see up a double cliff... |
| 08:59.34 | raydenuni | DarkPrince, confirmed what exactly? |
| 08:59.52 | Galois-evariste | just use a revealer to see up any number of cliffs |
| 08:59.55 | DarkPrince | That vision height represents how many clifs high a unit can see... |
| 09:00.00 | raydenuni | it works for you? |
| 09:00.10 | Galois-evariste | set unit sight radius to 1 and have a revealer follow - that way you dont have to worry about vision height |
| 09:00.11 | raydenuni | if you take a banshee and set it's vision to 0, it can't see up cliffs? |
| 09:00.29 | raydenuni | what did you test exactly? |
| 09:00.43 | DarkPrince | Oh. I thought it'd be unit independent. Just a rine. :P |
| 09:00.48 | raydenuni | setting a marine to 4 let's him see up |
| 09:00.56 | raydenuni | but setting banshee to 0 doesn't seem to do anything |
| 09:01.09 | DarkPrince | Oh okay sorry, nevermind. :D |
| 09:01.23 | raydenuni | 3 seems to be the same as 4 |
| 09:01.34 | Dashkal | Yeah, the colossus can see all the way up, but can only walk up one at a time |
| 09:01.37 | DarkPrince | Try negative numbers? O.o |
| 09:01.47 | DarkPrince | Hehe, anyway bye. |
| 09:01.52 | Hati | Nana na |
| 09:02.12 | raydenuni | ok |
| 09:02.20 | raydenuni | i have to set the marine to 1 in order to make him see 1 above him |
| 09:02.25 | raydenuni | which makes sense |
| 09:02.39 | raydenuni | oh |
| 09:02.45 | raydenuni | yeah i wonder if it's a +- thing |
| 09:02.46 | god | Than i killed everyone and i was like lol |
| 09:02.48 | raydenuni | that would make sense |
| 09:02.54 | Coolflip | ~seen god |
| 09:02.55 | purl | god <~coolflips@c-71-56-255-247.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 9s ago, saying: 'Than i killed everyone and i was like lol'. |
| 09:04.00 | slightlyrandom | raydenuni: Yeah. And 4 because they can view up the tallest cliffs when they are in the lower (no terrain) zone |
| 09:04.06 | Dashkal | raydenuni: I just set a viking (figherr mode) to 0 and he couldn't see up anymore |
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| 09:04.12 | WaterKnight | hi |
| 09:04.16 | raydenuni | isn't that still 3 up? |
| 09:04.27 | raydenuni | you have no terrain, then level 1, 2, 3 |
| 09:04.31 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, guess it is :P |
| 09:04.34 | raydenuni | really? |
| 09:04.37 | slightlyrandom | Better safe than sorry, eh? |
| 09:04.40 | raydenuni | i guess |
| 09:04.46 | raydenuni | wtf, my banshee is at 0 and he can still se up |
| 09:05.14 | raydenuni | wait wtf |
| 09:05.17 | raydenuni | he's at 2 |
| 09:05.20 | raydenuni | pebkac |
| 09:05.25 | Dashkal | I set him to 1 and it worked ... heh, nice |
| 09:05.32 | raydenuni | was editing raven |
| 09:05.36 | Dashkal | nice :P |
| 09:05.44 | slightlyrandom | hah |
| 09:06.02 | slightlyrandom | Meh, this blows |
| 09:06.04 | raydenuni | hmm |
| 09:06.09 | raydenuni | oh right, smoke doodads |
| 09:06.20 | slightlyrandom | +1 |
| 09:07.00 | raydenuni | wonder if -1 works |
| 09:07.18 | Dashkal | Can only see down a cliff level? That'd be amusing |
| 09:07.33 | raydenuni | yeah |
| 09:07.35 | slightlyrandom | burrowed unit moving in a cliff with windows |
| 09:07.38 | slightlyrandom | Makes sense |
| 09:07.43 | raydenuni | i'm going to have to make them ground units so that i can use smoke |
| 09:08.53 | raydenuni | looks like a crash... |
| 09:09.00 | raydenuni | oh the window greyed over |
| 09:09.01 | allenmelon | whats with poker defence? |
| 09:09.08 | allenmelon | its the stupidest boringest game ever |
| 09:09.12 | slightlyrandom | Heh |
| 09:09.14 | allenmelon | how the heck did it get on page one? |
| 09:09.16 | slightlyrandom | Used to be quite fun |
| 09:09.24 | raydenuni | crash |
| 09:09.28 | slightlyrandom | Is the remake shit? :D |
| 09:09.31 | raydenuni | i didn't get a blizzard eror message though |
| 09:09.34 | raydenuni | general windows crash |
| 09:09.36 | allenmelon | yeah, but the sc2 version, supposedly v1.0, is crappy |
| 09:09.43 | allenmelon | more like v .001 |
| 09:09.50 | raydenuni | what is the premise behind poker defense? |
| 09:09.51 | slightlyrandom | Hey, cut the guy some slack, eh? |
| 09:09.53 | allenmelon | really, its extremely stupid |
| 09:09.58 | slightlyrandom | You build five towers |
| 09:10.00 | Galois-evariste | lol |
| 09:10.07 | allenmelon | u get a hand |
| 09:10.09 | Galois-evariste | poker defense is like the most popular brood war map of the past 2 years |
| 09:10.09 | slightlyrandom | and if you get a pair or better, you can combine em into that |
| 09:10.12 | Galois-evariste | apart from diplomacy |
| 09:10.13 | allenmelon | and then you get units depending on your hand |
| 09:10.21 | allenmelon | and not all the units can attack |
| 09:10.29 | allenmelon | and the ones that can attack have like 3k dmg |
| 09:10.37 | slightlyrandom | sounds balanced |
| 09:10.37 | allenmelon | while the waves of enemies have normal health... |
| 09:10.41 | Galois-evariste | i really hate it when all of you wc3fags trash talk the stuff that we loved in brood war |
| 09:10.52 | Galois-evariste | and still do btw |
| 09:10.53 | slightlyrandom | Good bye Galois-evariste |
| 09:10.58 | Galois-evariste | oh suck a dick random |
| 09:11.13 | allenmelon | wc3fags? |
| 09:11.32 | allenmelon | im just talking about the poker defense version that got to the first page in us servers |
| 09:11.42 | allenmelon | that its extremely bad... |
| 09:11.45 | Galois-evariste | allenmelon>really, its extremely stupid |
| 09:12.00 | allenmelon | yeah, the version i just played |
| 09:12.04 | slightlyrandom | Well, I don't even know where he got the WC3 thing from |
| 09:12.05 | Galois-evariste | it has all the features the brood war version had |
| 09:12.15 | Galois-evariste | where's my squelch command |
| 09:12.19 | allenmelon | did you play the sc2 version im talking about? |
| 09:12.22 | Galois-evariste | there |
| 09:12.30 | Galois-evariste | of course ihave played it |
| 09:12.34 | allenmelon | oh really? |
| 09:12.35 | Galois-evariste | what the hell |
| 09:12.37 | Galois-evariste | how is that even in doubt |
| 09:12.38 | allenmelon | and you thought it was fun??? |
| 09:12.43 | Galois-evariste | of course i did |
| 09:12.45 | Galois-evariste | wtf |
| 09:12.52 | allenmelon | oh wow... |
| 09:13.07 | allenmelon | im surprised... |
| 09:13.19 | Galois-evariste | fuck this conversation im going back to the editor |
| 09:13.53 | Dashkal | Outright hostility to the people he's asking help of... *boggle* |
| 09:14.08 | allenmelon | lol, i cannot imagine someone enjoy that version of poker defense... |
| 09:14.17 | allenmelon | enjoying* |
| 09:14.32 | slightlyrandom | Well, it does make you wonder how he expects to be able to keep coming here for advice |
| 09:15.14 | allenmelon | slightlyrandom: did you play it? |
| 09:15.22 | slightlyrandom | There are only ~10-20 people actively helping here |
| 09:15.32 | allenmelon | and ur one of them |
| 09:15.35 | Bablo | wow, arrived after a storm, it seems |
| 09:15.37 | slightlyrandom | Heh, quite so |
| 09:15.55 | allenmelon | ive gotten a lot of help from you slightlyrandom |
| 09:15.56 | slightlyrandom | No, I didn't play it allenmelon |
| 09:16.02 | Sixen | Play nice. |
| 09:16.08 | slightlyrandom | been quite busy trying to beat this fucking button into submission |
| 09:16.13 | allenmelon | lol |
| 09:16.14 | Dashkal | Nah, just someone who doesn't seem to quite grasp the normal rules of interaction still apply online. |
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| 09:17.00 | slightlyrandom | And just as I thought I had a solution, RodOfNOD sticks a huge pole in my wheel |
| 09:17.10 | Sixen | Rod is the shit. |
| 09:17.12 | slightlyrandom | Aspect Ratios my bare, naked, thigh |
| 09:17.34 | slightlyrandom | Well, he could have fixed the solution he broke, at least |
| 09:17.58 | allenmelon | ugh, whats with the games on the us servers |
| 09:18.11 | allenmelon | a lot of them suck so much, i seriously wonder how they got so high up in the list |
| 09:18.18 | slightlyrandom | Hah |
| 09:18.30 | slightlyrandom | Well, Cube Defense did better when it was broken than it does now |
| 09:18.34 | slightlyrandom | Goes to show, I guess |
| 09:18.42 | allenmelon | lets see, poker defense is one, |
| 09:18.50 | allenmelon | 1,000,000 zerglings is another |
| 09:18.56 | Otixa | Mornin guise |
| 09:18.59 | allenmelon | hungry hungry baneling |
| 09:19.22 | allenmelon | zombie survival map |
| 09:19.24 | Dashkal | I'm tempted sometimes to write checkers |
| 09:19.43 | allenmelon | sanctuary rpg, etc... |
| 09:19.43 | slightlyrandom | Heh, I've thought about doing tic-tac-toe |
| 09:19.50 | allenmelon | lol, simple but classic game slightlyrandom |
| 09:20.02 | Otixa | slightlyrandom, a funny game. The only winning move is not to play |
| 09:20.10 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 09:20.17 | Dashkal | Thermonuclear war! |
| 09:20.22 | Otixa | Good evening, professor Falken |
| 09:20.22 | slightlyrandom | Next game to make is obvious |
| 09:20.53 | raydenuni | chess |
| 09:20.53 | slightlyrandom | Has been done |
| 09:20.53 | Otixa | Dashkal, the original movie was better >:| |
| 09:20.53 | Dashkal | Didn't someone do chess already? |
| 09:20.53 | allenmelon | chess was already made |
| 09:20.53 | raydenuni | let's discuss which unit would be which chess unit |
| 09:20.58 | Dashkal | Otixa: I've only seen the original movie :P |
| 09:21.03 | allenmelon | marine - pond |
| 09:21.07 | allenmelon | or zergling |
| 09:21.10 | allenmelon | or zealot |
| 09:21.16 | raydenuni | yeah |
| 09:21.17 | allenmelon | basically the first tier one untis |
| 09:21.24 | Otixa | pats Dashkal |
| 09:21.25 | Otixa | ;D |
| 09:21.26 | allenmelon | i guess different players can be diff races |
| 09:21.32 | allenmelon | mothership as king |
| 09:21.33 | raydenuni | yeah, one race per each set |
| 09:21.36 | raydenuni | who as queen? |
| 09:21.39 | allenmelon | umm |
| 09:21.40 | raydenuni | carrier? |
| 09:21.44 | Otixa | Queen is queen! |
| 09:21.46 | Otixa | ;D |
| 09:21.50 | raydenuni | queen would be queen |
| 09:21.50 | allenmelon | void? |
| 09:21.51 | slightlyrandom | Mothership is queen |
| 09:21.53 | raydenuni | overlord as king? |
| 09:21.58 | slightlyrandom | Can't have a fucking MOTHERship as king |
| 09:22.02 | allenmelon | but still |
| 09:22.06 | allenmelon | its slowmoving and big |
| 09:22.13 | Otixa | slightlyrandom, hermophrodite, k |
| 09:22.16 | Dashkal | Mothership and Overlord as the monarchs? The prince would be fugly |
| 09:22.21 | raydenuni | yeah but mothership plays more the role of king |
| 09:22.24 | allenmelon | yeah |
| 09:22.25 | raydenuni | mothership sits back and watches |
| 09:22.26 | Sixen | lol dash |
| 09:22.31 | allenmelon | void for queen? |
| 09:22.40 | allenmelon | hellion for rook |
| 09:22.44 | slightlyrandom | Colossus imo |
| 09:22.46 | raydenuni | void ray? nah |
| 09:22.52 | raydenuni | siege tank for knight |
| 09:22.52 | allenmelon | colossus for knight! |
| 09:22.53 | slightlyrandom | Colossus queen |
| 09:22.58 | slightlyrandom | Hm, point |
| 09:23.01 | allenmelon | colossus can move around |
| 09:23.03 | raydenuni | how about we pck one race for now? |
| 09:23.07 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 09:23.07 | raydenuni | and then move on |
| 09:23.08 | slightlyrandom | Terran |
| 09:23.10 | raydenuni | doing 3 at once is confusing |
| 09:23.13 | allenmelon | terran |
| 09:23.19 | raydenuni | pawn: marine |
| 09:23.23 | raydenuni | agreed? |
| 09:23.27 | allenmelon | marine - pond |
| 09:23.29 | raydenuni | knight: siege tank? |
| 09:23.34 | allenmelon | nono |
| 09:23.39 | slightlyrandom | Viking |
| 09:23.40 | Dashkal | Colossus would make an excelent knight since he can just walk over things |
| 09:23.47 | raydenuni | we're doing terran |
| 09:23.47 | allenmelon | yeah thats what i suggested |
| 09:23.53 | allenmelon | ok, rook |
| 09:23.55 | slightlyrandom | viking as knight |
| 09:23.57 | allenmelon | hellion? |
| 09:23.58 | raydenuni | viking for bishop |
| 09:24.00 | Clord | rook.. marine... horse goliath king battlecruiser............... XD |
| 09:24.06 | slightlyrandom | hellion can be bishop |
| 09:24.08 | raydenuni | knight hits from behind friendly lines |
| 09:24.12 | raydenuni | that's the siege tank |
| 09:24.12 | Clord | lol these hardly fits ^^ |
| 09:24.18 | raydenuni | although i can see your point with viking |
| 09:24.20 | raydenuni | fly over, drop in |
| 09:24.26 | allenmelon | reaper rook? |
| 09:24.32 | raydenuni | no |
| 09:24.34 | Otixa | Clord, rook should be stalker tbh ;o |
| 09:24.38 | raydenuni | rook is a strong and sturdy unit |
| 09:24.47 | raydenuni | could be siege |
| 09:24.50 | allenmelon | then bishop rook? |
| 09:24.52 | Dashkal | Wouldn't marines have to be pawns? |
| 09:24.56 | raydenuni | they are |
| 09:25.02 | allenmelon | yes, we already established that... |
| 09:25.03 | Dashkal | *looks up* so they are |
| 09:25.09 | Clord | damn I meant pawn is marine |
| 09:25.10 | allenmelon | rook marauder? |
| 09:25.10 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:25.16 | raydenuni | bishop would be hellion or viking, imo |
| 09:25.18 | raydenuni | for mobility |
| 09:25.19 | Dashkal | Glance away for a moment and it scrolls right by :P |
| 09:25.31 | allenmelon | but bishop and rook ahve same amount of mobility |
| 09:25.33 | slightlyrandom | Hellion, since I vote Viking for Knight |
| 09:25.42 | Dashkal | Rook: Tank or Thor |
| 09:25.50 | raydenuni | oh man the thor |
| 09:25.53 | slightlyrandom | Thor can be King |
| 09:26.01 | Dashkal | Thor as King would work. |
| 09:26.05 | allenmelon | yeah |
| 09:26.09 | slightlyrandom | BC... Rook ? |
| 09:26.10 | raydenuni | queen? |
| 09:26.19 | raydenuni | BC? |
| 09:26.22 | slightlyrandom | Banshee Queen |
| 09:26.28 | Dashkal | heh |
| 09:26.30 | allenmelon | viking bishop banshee rook? |
| 09:26.33 | Ka[L]ekin | Don't you just hate it when things seem to almost spontaniously stop working. ;/ |
| 09:26.36 | raydenuni | banshee is too weak to be queen imo |
| 09:26.41 | raydenuni | terran doesn't have a good queen |
| 09:26.51 | Dashkal | Banshee, Medic, Medivac are about it for female portraits |
| 09:26.57 | raydenuni | banshee works as rook |
| 09:26.57 | allenmelon | queen raven? |
| 09:27.00 | slightlyrandom | Well, we ain't going gender |
| 09:27.11 | slightlyrandom | Banshee for Rook, then |
| 09:27.26 | slightlyrandom | I don't like BC as Queen |
| 09:27.31 | allenmelon | whats knight? |
| 09:27.33 | slightlyrandom | Too slow |
| 09:27.36 | slightlyrandom | Viking |
| 09:27.42 | allenmelon | whats bishop? |
| 09:27.42 | raydenuni | knight is viking, although i argue for tank |
| 09:27.46 | raydenuni | hellion |
| 09:27.46 | slightlyrandom | Hellion ? |
| 09:27.57 | allenmelon | mk |
| 09:28.06 | raydenuni | thor could be queen |
| 09:28.09 | raydenuni | and then like raven for king |
| 09:28.17 | raydenuni | although that doesn't work thematically |
| 09:28.18 | slightlyrandom | Thor is sooo slow though |
| 09:28.20 | allenmelon | possible |
| 09:28.22 | raydenuni | oh that's true |
| 09:28.30 | raydenuni | terran doesn't have powerful+fast |
| 09:28.35 | slightlyrandom | Stimmed Marauder as Queen? :P |
| 09:28.40 | allenmelon | rofl |
| 09:28.42 | Dashkal | Speed up a battlecruiser? |
| 09:29.00 | slightlyrandom | BC is a hulking unit, though |
| 09:29.05 | Dashkal | Thor would just look like a hamster on coffee at that speed, but a BC could be accelerated |
| 09:29.09 | slightlyrandom | That's why I liked Banshee as queen, fairly fast and hard hitting |
| 09:29.26 | allenmelon | teratron! |
| 09:29.28 | raydenuni | my only issue is that the banshee has severe blindsides |
| 09:29.29 | allenmelon | for king! |
| 09:29.38 | raydenuni | the queen has no blindside |
| 09:29.44 | allenmelon | jim raynor for queen! |
| 09:29.44 | raydenuni | we still have ghost |
| 09:29.45 | allenmelon | lol |
| 09:29.51 | Dashkal | Could use nova |
| 09:29.57 | slightlyrandom | Nova Queen? |
| 09:30.05 | raydenuni | precision kills |
| 09:30.06 | allenmelon | whats nova |
| 09:30.08 | raydenuni | that could work |
| 09:30.11 | raydenuni | nova is female hero ghost |
| 09:30.13 | slightlyrandom | Character Ghost |
| 09:30.20 | allenmelon | ah |
| 09:30.21 | Hati | nova = fake kerrigan |
| 09:30.24 | slightlyrandom | hehe |
| 09:30.27 | raydenuni | that works |
| 09:30.31 | raydenuni | and it fits with the terran theme |
| 09:30.35 | raydenuni | thor king, nova queen? |
| 09:30.40 | allenmelon | moving on to zerg? |
| 09:30.43 | raydenuni | banshee rook, viking knight |
| 09:30.45 | Dashkal | Nova was to be the main character of the scrapped (sorry, put on hiatus) StarCraft: Ghost. She makes an appearance in the campaign |
| 09:30.45 | raydenuni | no siege tank then? |
| 09:30.46 | raydenuni | :( |
| 09:30.50 | slightlyrandom | No tank |
| 09:30.59 | slightlyrandom | We no like tanks |
| 09:31.04 | slightlyrandom | Overused unit, anyway |
| 09:31.07 | raydenuni | i'd swap banshee to biship and tank as rook |
| 09:31.13 | Hati | SCV = king |
| 09:31.17 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 09:31.21 | raydenuni | but i think tank defines terran |
| 09:31.34 | raydenuni | but that's good enough |
| 09:31.35 | raydenuni | ZERG |
| 09:31.38 | raydenuni | pawn: zergling |
| 09:31.40 | deathnight114 | I wanted to play starcraft ghost, thanks for reminding me of it |
| 09:31.41 | raydenuni | queen: queen |
| 09:31.43 | raydenuni | overlord: king |
| 09:31.51 | slightlyrandom | Rook Ultra |
| 09:31.55 | Dashkal | I'm waiting for someone to remake it in map form :P |
| 09:31.57 | slightlyrandom | King Infestor? |
| 09:32.01 | deathnight114 | I still have a blizzard comic issue thing that says starcraft ghost is coming in 2002, with nova on the cover |
| 09:32.03 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 09:32.07 | raydenuni | overlord i say |
| 09:32.10 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 09:32.14 | raydenuni | slow moving, if it dies you lose |
| 09:32.18 | allenmelon | king ultra |
| 09:32.24 | Hati | you know - you could use Spire as Rook |
| 09:32.28 | Hati | or greater spire |
| 09:32.31 | slightlyrandom | Knight Hydra |
| 09:32.37 | raydenuni | we're not going for looks, going for role |
| 09:32.40 | Dashkal | I'm still mildly annoyed that the cheated with Sarah's human portrait. They just stole Nova's and dyed her hair. The two don't look all that much alike... |
| 09:32.40 | raydenuni | nydus worm for knight |
| 09:32.41 | raydenuni | :D |
| 09:32.44 | slightlyrandom | haha |
| 09:32.44 | allenmelon | rook baneling! |
| 09:33.04 | raydenuni | bishop has to be muta |
| 09:33.15 | raydenuni | ultra for rook |
| 09:33.18 | raydenuni | hydra for knight |
| 09:33.20 | slightlyrandom | Could stick a broodlord on rook |
| 09:33.24 | raydenuni | true |
| 09:33.29 | raydenuni | broodlord is better |
| 09:33.36 | allenmelon | ultra king? |
| 09:33.44 | raydenuni | i still like overlord |
| 09:33.51 | slightlyrandom | also, queen doesn't work as queen |
| 09:33.52 | raydenuni | he plays the role of "protect me so we don't lose" better than the ultra |
| 09:33.55 | Dashkal | Ultra/Queen would look reasonably balanced |
| 09:33.59 | raydenuni | if my king was an ultralisk, i'd want him to be on the front line |
| 09:34.06 | slightlyrandom | Ultra queen |
| 09:34.08 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 09:34.11 | raydenuni | if my king is an overlord, i'd want to protect him |
| 09:34.26 | raydenuni | you guys vote ultra then? |
| 09:34.27 | raydenuni | :( |
| 09:34.36 | slightlyrandom | The queen isn't an offensive unit |
| 09:34.43 | raydenuni | but she's the queen |
| 09:34.50 | raydenuni | only other options is infestor i think |
| 09:34.51 | slightlyrandom | I thought we were going theme, here |
| 09:34.56 | Dashkal | She is when you need to fend off some early air assult |
| 09:34.57 | raydenuni | didn't you see day9's mass queen video? |
| 09:35.01 | slightlyrandom | hehe |
| 09:35.04 | raydenuni | offensive queens! |
| 09:35.07 | slightlyrandom | You don't get 14 queens |
| 09:35.13 | Dashkal | A couple queens will save your bacon when you get a VR harass |
| 09:35.29 | raydenuni | so queen:queen, ultra:king? |
| 09:35.35 | slightlyrandom | Ultra queen |
| 09:35.39 | raydenuni | my version will secretly be overlord |
| 09:35.48 | slightlyrandom | I can go with overlord as king |
| 09:35.59 | Dashkal | Drone king :P |
| 09:36.01 | raydenuni | overlord plays the role of king better than any other unit in the game |
| 09:36.02 | allenmelon | wait why are we naming chess pieces in sc2? |
| 09:36.06 | raydenuni | for fun |
| 09:36.19 | allenmelon | who was terran king? |
| 09:36.23 | raydenuni | thor |
| 09:36.34 | allenmelon | if you put the logic like that |
| 09:36.39 | allenmelon | then thor shouldnt be king either |
| 09:36.43 | raydenuni | should be BC |
| 09:36.47 | raydenuni | either is fine with me |
| 09:36.54 | slightlyrandom | Thor is cooler :P |
| 09:37.04 | raydenuni | so we done with zerg? |
| 09:37.09 | slightlyrandom | sounds like |
| 09:37.11 | allenmelon | protoss is easy |
| 09:37.13 | raydenuni | PROTOSS |
| 09:37.15 | allenmelon | straightforward |
| 09:37.21 | allenmelon | pawn zealot |
| 09:37.22 | raydenuni | pawn:zealot |
| 09:37.24 | allenmelon | mothership king |
| 09:37.27 | raydenuni | rook: colossus |
| 09:37.34 | raydenuni | knight:stalker |
| 09:37.36 | allenmelon | yeah |
| 09:37.38 | allenmelon | with blink |
| 09:37.41 | allenmelon | lol |
| 09:37.48 | slightlyrandom | bishop pheonix |
| 09:37.51 | allenmelon | bishop |
| 09:37.51 | slightlyrandom | hm, or void ray |
| 09:37.57 | raydenuni | what about high templar? |
| 09:37.59 | allenmelon | queen has to be void or pheonix |
| 09:38.07 | allenmelon | bishop dt? |
| 09:38.12 | raydenuni | you wouldn't make queen the carrier? |
| 09:38.18 | allenmelon | cause its slow? |
| 09:38.27 | slightlyrandom | queen DT, then |
| 09:38.33 | allenmelon | lol |
| 09:38.34 | raydenuni | it's a greater presence on the field |
| 09:38.45 | slightlyrandom | But yeah, Carrier carries weight |
| 09:38.47 | Dashkal | I don't think the DT really fits any chess piece. There's no stealth in that game |
| 09:38.56 | raydenuni | agreed |
| 09:39.08 | raydenuni | nor does high templar |
| 09:39.13 | allenmelon | so bishop and queen |
| 09:39.14 | raydenuni | but part of me wants to make him the bishop |
| 09:39.15 | slightlyrandom | as king, maybe |
| 09:39.23 | slightlyrandom | High Templar King |
| 09:39.25 | Dashkal | I could make a case for the HT being the king or the bishiop |
| 09:39.27 | raydenuni | archon could be king |
| 09:39.36 | Dashkal | Archon: King or Rook |
| 09:39.36 | allenmelon | isnt mothership king already? |
| 09:39.51 | slightlyrandom | I dont like the mothership |
| 09:39.52 | slightlyrandom | Silly unit |
| 09:39.56 | allenmelon | lol ok |
| 09:39.58 | raydenuni | i agree with that statement |
| 09:40.00 | Dashkal | The mothership is a tad too big. She's badly out of scale with the rest |
| 09:40.06 | raydenuni | ^ |
| 09:40.11 | allenmelon | void queen? |
| 09:40.19 | allenmelon | archon king? |
| 09:40.25 | raydenuni | i still think carrier is a better queen |
| 09:40.31 | raydenuni | void ray is a decent bishop |
| 09:40.47 | slightlyrandom | I could go with Void Ray as Knight |
| 09:40.48 | raydenuni | poor immortal |
| 09:40.53 | slightlyrandom | for the stupid rushes |
| 09:40.55 | raydenuni | we already got stalker with blink for that |
| 09:40.56 | Dashkal | Void ray works for biship in more than one way. Not the least of which is that it kinda looks like the actual piece |
| 09:40.58 | allenmelon | immortal rook would be nice |
| 09:41.02 | slightlyrandom | Stalker bishop |
| 09:41.07 | raydenuni | true |
| 09:41.12 | raydenuni | knights blink |
| 09:41.14 | raydenuni | stalkers blink |
| 09:41.18 | raydenuni | :P |
| 09:41.19 | slightlyrandom | Void Ray feels more like a surprise unit than stalker |
| 09:41.26 | allenmelon | knight could be stalkers or colossus |
| 09:41.33 | raydenuni | nooo |
| 09:41.36 | raydenuni | colossus isnt a knight |
| 09:41.52 | raydenuni | who said protoss was straightforward? |
| 09:41.56 | allenmelon | then immortal for rook? |
| 09:41.57 | allenmelon | me lol |
| 09:42.03 | allenmelon | well most of em were.... |
| 09:42.05 | raydenuni | floggings all around |
| 09:42.10 | raydenuni | most of them being the pawn? |
| 09:42.16 | slightlyrandom | :D |
| 09:42.20 | raydenuni | i don't even know who king and queen are |
| 09:42.21 | allenmelon | and rook and knight |
| 09:42.37 | raydenuni | for some there's no clear choice, for others we have 2 or 3 |
| 09:43.01 | allenmelon | so rook immortal?? |
| 09:43.08 | raydenuni | HT for king, carrier for queen, colossus for rook, stalker for knight, voidray for bishop |
| 09:43.09 | raydenuni | :D |
| 09:43.18 | slightlyrandom | I'd sign that |
| 09:43.19 | Dashkal | King/Queen: Archon/Dark Archon (can just tint the actor red to get that back) |
| 09:44.27 | raydenuni | man, zerg knight was easy |
| 09:45.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net) |
| 09:45.08 | allenmelon | lol nydus? |
| 09:45.08 | slightlyrandom | Can I trigger my way to information on screen resolution ? |
| 09:45.13 | raydenuni | zerg feels like it doesn't have many units |
| 09:45.15 | raydenuni | we decided hydra |
| 09:45.19 | allenmelon | oh |
| 09:45.25 | allenmelon | why? |
| 09:45.31 | slightlyrandom | Lack of options |
| 09:45.35 | allenmelon | roach burrow |
| 09:45.45 | slightlyrandom | heh, good point |
| 09:45.48 | slightlyrandom | infestor, too |
| 09:45.52 | allenmelon | yeah |
| 09:46.05 | raydenuni | hydra is a more iconic unit though |
| 09:46.07 | raydenuni | i'd use that |
| 09:46.08 | slightlyrandom | I like Mutalisk as knight, too |
| 09:46.14 | slightlyrandom | Argh, stop it |
| 09:46.20 | raydenuni | baneling doesn't feel like a full unit, since it explodes |
| 09:46.21 | allenmelon | now lets move onto another classic game |
| 09:46.29 | raydenuni | overlord/overseer coutn as 1.5 |
| 09:46.35 | raydenuni | corruptor/broodlord ar esimilar |
| 09:46.40 | raydenuni | broodling doesn't count |
| 09:46.46 | raydenuni | changeling is just lawl |
| 09:46.54 | raydenuni | infested terran is the same |
| 09:47.14 | raydenuni | another classic game? |
| 09:47.15 | raydenuni | checkers, go |
| 09:47.27 | allenmelon | lol |
| 09:47.33 | raydenuni | what classic games have different kinds of units like that? |
| 09:48.03 | raydenuni | maybe zerg more than other races feels like a build only incorporates a few types of units |
| 09:48.08 | slightlyrandom | Axis and Allies |
| 09:48.10 | raydenuni | how many zerg players get all types of units in a game? |
| 09:48.17 | raydenuni | yeah that's the only one i can think of, but it's kind of lame |
| 09:48.25 | allenmelon | idk what that is... |
| 09:48.32 | raydenuni | are you not american? |
| 09:48.46 | raydenuni | http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/98/axis-allies |
| 09:49.03 | raydenuni | http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22827/ <-- let's do this one |
| 09:49.28 | allenmelon | never saw that game b4, wasnt alive then i guess |
| 09:49.34 | onetwo | haha the doctor got infested |
| 09:49.35 | onetwo | what a nub |
| 09:49.40 | raydenuni | it's the classic american casual wargame |
| 09:49.41 | onetwo | did my choice affect that? |
| 09:49.50 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 09:49.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster JamesObscura_ (~James@ip98-171-168-128.sb.sd.cox.net) |
| 09:49.51 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 09:49.58 | raydenuni | onetwo, yes |
| 09:50.00 | raydenuni | i didn't get that |
| 09:50.06 | onetwo | meh i wanted the zombie mission |
| 09:50.10 | onetwo | not some kill toss mission |
| 09:50.10 | raydenuni | THANKS FOR RUINING IT |
| 09:50.11 | slightlyrandom | You can play the other mission right about NOW |
| 09:50.13 | onetwo | and she wasnt that hot |
| 09:50.16 | onetwo | im shallow |
| 09:50.25 | raydenuni | but she was the only piece of ass in the vicinity |
| 09:50.28 | slightlyrandom | Go to the mission archive and pick the other mission |
| 09:50.50 | onetwo | oh |
| 09:50.56 | slightlyrandom | But first |
| 09:50.57 | onetwo | kk |
| 09:51.01 | slightlyrandom | Help me out here onetwo :( |
| 09:51.05 | onetwo | what? |
| 09:51.06 | onetwo | im about to sleep |
| 09:51.07 | onetwo | what ya need |
| 09:51.09 | raydenuni | onetwo, while you were gone we picked chess pieces for all races |
| 09:51.13 | slightlyrandom | A button |
| 09:51.20 | slightlyrandom | Press the mouse down, bar starts going up |
| 09:51.28 | slightlyrandom | Release mouse button, stuff fires |
| 09:51.41 | onetwo | i take it this is not for bnet |
| 09:51.44 | slightlyrandom | It is :P |
| 09:51.53 | onetwo | well then you have to use what you have to use |
| 09:51.55 | raydenuni | sleep for me to |
| 09:51.56 | onetwo | player presses a key down |
| 09:51.56 | raydenuni | too |
| 09:52.01 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, I did that |
| 09:52.04 | onetwo | run a fast-firing loop |
| 09:52.07 | onetwo | that ups a boss bar |
| 09:52.18 | onetwo | mouse release |
| 09:52.19 | onetwo | do w/e |
| 09:52.20 | slightlyrandom | Naw, I want a Launch button |
| 09:52.23 | onetwo | err button |
| 09:52.29 | slightlyrandom | Wait a minute here |
| 09:52.32 | slightlyrandom | let me explain the problem |
| 09:52.50 | slightlyrandom | I want this to happen when you click a button, not anywhere |
| 09:52.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~IceChat7@ip-114-201.static.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 09:53.03 | slightlyrandom | I fixed this with a dialog and a condition on mouse location on button press |
| 09:53.11 | slightlyrandom | But, aspect ratios change location of dialog :( |
| 09:53.54 | slightlyrandom | So, my pseudo button isn't where my condition checks for on, well, two of three aspect ratios |
| 09:53.58 | onetwo | you know you can do |
| 09:54.01 | onetwo | dialog item variable |
| 09:54.04 | onetwo | to store the exact button |
| 09:54.11 | slightlyrandom | I didnt use a button |
| 09:54.20 | slightlyrandom | Buttons only trigger on mouse button up |
| 09:54.40 | onetwo | im too confused at this point |
| 09:54.42 | onetwo | no button |
| 09:54.43 | onetwo | button |
| 09:54.44 | onetwo | which is it |
| 09:54.45 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:54.45 | slightlyrandom | Hehe |
| 09:54.48 | slightlyrandom | An empty dialog |
| 09:54.48 | Bibendus | HOLY FUCK |
| 09:54.51 | onetwo | why? |
| 09:54.53 | Bibendus | MEMORY LEAKSSSSSSSSSSS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 09:54.53 | slightlyrandom | acting as a pseudo button |
| 09:54.54 | onetwo | make it use a button |
| 09:55.00 | Bibendus | they are back :| |
| 09:55.06 | onetwo | i dont see why youre doing so much work |
| 09:55.07 | slightlyrandom | Buttons only work when you release the mouse, not when you press it |
| 09:55.08 | onetwo | with an empty oen |
| 09:55.26 | onetwo | oh |
| 09:55.27 | onetwo | interesting |
| 09:56.07 | onetwo | maybe consider not doing a button |
| 09:56.09 | onetwo | and go to key press |
| 09:56.14 | onetwo | like lost vikings arcade game |
| 09:56.21 | onetwo | and just put controls as tips |
| 09:56.31 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, well |
| 09:56.34 | onetwo | you CANT really factor in aspect ratios |
| 09:56.38 | onetwo | someone in windowed could have anything |
| 09:56.45 | slightlyrandom | I could do something like press button to enable launch, then just launch anywhere |
| 09:56.52 | onetwo | perfect |
| 09:56.54 | onetwo | sounds good |
| 09:56.56 | slightlyrandom | Naw, windowed snaps to aspects |
| 09:57.16 | onetwo | anyway, night! |
| 09:57.21 | slightlyrandom | Good night |
| 10:00.32 | allenmelon | party games is pretty fun |
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| 10:03.06 | Galois-evariste | question |
| 10:03.21 | Galois-evariste | is it possible to enable observer mode with a trigger |
| 10:03.30 | Galois-evariste | becuase i don't see anything with the word observer in the action list |
| 10:03.41 | Ka[L]ekin | Nope |
| 10:03.43 | Galois-evariste | do i have to actually recreate it or can i just turn it on |
| 10:03.45 | Galois-evariste | fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck |
| 10:03.46 | Ka[L]ekin | I wouldn't think so |
| 10:03.52 | Ka[L]ekin | Should be easy enough to emulate though |
| 10:03.56 | Galois-evariste | yes of course |
| 10:04.46 | Galois-evariste | daaaamn |
| 10:04.51 | Galois-evariste | my map is 900kb |
| 10:04.57 | Galois-evariste | i got code out the ass |
| 10:05.29 | Clord | http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5696/thecardgamezergling.jpg |
| 10:05.30 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:05.34 | Galois-evariste | i'm a one man studio, brah |
| 10:05.46 | Galois-evariste | i believe it |
| 10:05.58 | Galois-evariste | what about it clord |
| 10:06.07 | Galois-evariste | i think it serves its purpose - i believe its a trading card |
| 10:06.23 | Dashkal | Clord: Nice artwork there |
| 10:06.37 | Dashkal | Though why you'd be paying gas for a zergling I don't get :P |
| 10:06.43 | Galois-evariste | that's gas? |
| 10:06.46 | Galois-evariste | i thought it was a planet card |
| 10:06.49 | Galois-evariste | like land in magic |
| 10:07.46 | Clord | lol |
| 10:08.32 | Dashkal | Well, it's in the standard 'cost' position for most games. ANd paying 10 planets is even more excessive |
| 10:08.44 | Dashkal | But the 9/9 also looks odd on such a weak thing |
| 10:09.03 | Galois-evariste | well yeah but what is 9 exactly |
| 10:09.06 | Galois-evariste | is it a lot? |
| 10:09.22 | Dashkal | More to the point: what is one ninth the power of a zergling? |
| 10:09.41 | Dashkal | If there's no answer to that, 9/9 is odd |
| 10:09.52 | Galois-evariste | yes 9/9 is odd |
| 10:09.56 | Galois-evariste | because its equal to 1 |
| 10:09.58 | Galois-evariste | lorlrodrflofrrlfl |
| 10:10.09 | Galois-evariste | but really |
| 10:10.20 | Galois-evariste | if nothing is one ninth the power of a zergling |
| 10:10.23 | Galois-evariste | its not bizarre |
| 10:10.24 | Clord | it is magic the gathering style |
| 10:10.33 | Hati | Clord: nice art |
| 10:10.52 | Galois-evariste | really? no lols at the 9/9 joke? |
| 10:10.53 | Hati | or layout |
| 10:10.54 | Galois-evariste | my god people |
| 10:11.59 | Dashkal | Clord: Well, I assume the stats are all placeholders, so ignoring that. Very cool artwork :P I'd considering playing such a game. Ahh, memories of M:tG. I played wayyyyy back in 4th edition and ice age |
| 10:12.10 | Galois-evariste | ugh |
| 10:12.36 | Bablo | Anyone know how I can disable the ghosts attack boost against light targets? |
| 10:12.50 | Bibendus | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/7445-memory-leaks-they-are-back/ |
| 10:12.54 | Bibendus | :| |
| 10:13.11 | Bibendus | bablo |
| 10:13.19 | Bibendus | search the ghost |
| 10:13.36 | Bibendus | look on the bottom left square |
| 10:13.50 | Bibendus | search for the damage effect of his weapon |
| 10:14.07 | Dashkal | Bablo: Have a look at the effect "Ghost - C-10 Canister RIgle (Damage)" |
| 10:14.13 | Bibendus | in this case |
| 10:14.22 | Bibendus | ghost - canister rifle (damage) |
| 10:14.23 | Dashkal | Bablo: Under Combat: Attribute bonus. Set "Light" back to 0 |
| 10:14.26 | Galois-evariste | btw |
| 10:14.26 | Bablo | I've been looking at the damage effect for a while but cant figure it out |
| 10:14.32 | Dashkal | too slow, sorry Bibendus |
| 10:14.34 | Bibendus | lolz |
| 10:14.35 | Bibendus | :D |
| 10:14.36 | Galois-evariste | have you guys noticed that the modutilityvoice can make anything sound epic? |
| 10:14.51 | Bibendus | lol |
| 10:14.55 | Bibendus | i don't like it too much |
| 10:14.59 | Galois-evariste | even when he says the names of letters of the alphabet he's like "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY" |
| 10:15.02 | Bibendus | i prefer the unreal voice |
| 10:15.02 | Bablo | thanks, Dashkal |
| 10:15.03 | Galois-evariste | and you're like "HLY SHIT" |
| 10:15.03 | Bibendus | :V |
| 10:15.18 | Bablo | and Bibendus :P that was really a.. throughout way of explaining it <: |
| 10:15.36 | Bibendus | :| |
| 10:15.41 | Ka[L]ekin | you could have something 2/9th and 7/9th and still have a purpose for it being 9/9 |
| 10:15.42 | Dashkal | Bablo: I'd say he did a better job. That helps you find similar things than my way :P |
| 10:15.53 | Bibendus | i said you the procedure |
| 10:15.58 | Bibendus | so you can do it on other units |
| 10:16.05 | Bablo | yeah he did, but I didnt need that comprehensive answer :P |
| 10:16.09 | Bibendus | so you can learn something |
| 10:16.11 | Bablo | yeah, thanks anyway :P |
| 10:16.15 | Bibendus | :( |
| 10:16.15 | Dashkal | Ka[L]ekin: You could, but it gets a little messy for a TGC. Since all the math is intended to be done in your head, small numbers are better. |
| 10:16.53 | Ka[L]ekin | true enough |
| 10:16.55 | Bablo | no no, I didnt mean it any bad way, Bibendus :P thats exactly the way you should answer, but its just I know my way around data editor, just didnt know where that info was hiding :) |
| 10:17.45 | Galois-evariste | dont listen to dashkal he's a dumbass |
| 10:18.40 | Dashkal | Galois-evariste: Yes, I know this is the internet, but damnit, hold yourself to at least a minimal standard of civility if you want to actually get help from people. Yes? |
| 10:18.47 | Galois-evariste | oh please |
| 10:19.02 | Bablo | What's with all the hate today? :o |
| 10:19.32 | Galois-evariste | there is nothing wrong with working in sets of 9 |
| 10:19.49 | Galois-evariste | for the same reason that there's nothing wrong with blizzard working with starcraft2 minerals/gas in sets of 5 or 8 in brood war |
| 10:20.00 | Galois-evariste | its completely stupid to argue that it should be changed |
| 10:20.26 | Galois-evariste | to say that they should do it because "small numbers dont hurt my head" is idiotic |
| 10:20.41 | Galois-evariste | excuse me i've been playing debates nonstop for the past few days |
| 10:20.46 | Dashkal | Galois-evariste: At some point you are going to realize that diagree != stupid. When that day finally comes it will blow your mind. |
| 10:20.48 | Galois-evariste | fucking rodrigo, man |
| 10:20.53 | Galois-evariste | oh my god |
| 10:21.05 | Galois-evariste | tell that to fucking prozaicmuze and whats that other dude's face that i muted earlier |
| 10:21.16 | Bablo | :D |
| 10:21.18 | Galois-evariste | dumbdumbdumbdumb |
| 10:25.59 | Sixen | .. |
| 10:26.22 | Sixen | Can we play nice before I start banning people? |
| 10:26.43 | Sixen | I'd rather not have to drop the hammer. |
| 10:27.25 | Bablo | <3 |
| 10:27.58 | Ka[L]ekin | This editor is a bloody balancing act |
| 10:28.07 | Ka[L]ekin | If you want it to get to do anything it wasn't intended to |
| 10:28.08 | Ka[L]ekin | >_> |
| 10:28.27 | Bibendus | ,mm |
| 10:28.28 | Sixen | I have to admit, having GE make me coffee was semi-difficult. |
| 10:28.29 | Bibendus | how can i post code |
| 10:28.30 | Sixen | But it worked in the end. |
| 10:28.33 | Bibendus | in the mapster forum? |
| 10:28.36 | Ka[L]ekin | :P |
| 10:28.39 | Bibendus | to keep tabulations? |
| 10:28.46 | Sixen | It's... |
| 10:28.49 | Sixen | <<code galaxy>> I think |
| 10:28.52 | Galois-evariste | question |
| 10:28.57 | Bibendus | in what kind |
| 10:28.59 | Bibendus | of board language? |
| 10:29.11 | Sixen | WikiCreole |
| 10:29.21 | Galois-evariste | does anyone know how to turn off the air unit guide things that they put underneath units that are airborne with triggers? |
| 10:29.40 | Galois-evariste | the "Set Unit State" action doesn't have that state available |
| 10:29.46 | Bibendus | got it |
| 10:29.47 | Bibendus | code |
| 10:29.49 | Ka[L]ekin | Guide? |
| 10:29.51 | Bibendus | in bb |
| 10:29.54 | Bibendus | [code] |
| 10:29.55 | Galois-evariste | you can turn on a thing |
| 10:30.01 | Galois-evariste | where underneath air units there is a little line and circle |
| 10:30.05 | Ka[L]ekin | Ah |
| 10:30.09 | Ka[L]ekin | to show it's relative ground position |
| 10:30.10 | Galois-evariste | to let you know where they raeally are on the map |
| 10:30.18 | Galois-evariste | that's what the editor calls it? okay that helps |
| 10:30.37 | Ka[L]ekin | wait what :0 |
| 10:30.39 | Ka[L]ekin | That's whta I call it |
| 10:30.43 | Galois-evariste | >:/ |
| 10:30.52 | Galois-evariste | anybody know how to turn it off? |
| 10:30.54 | Ka[L]ekin | I know what you're talking about, not sure how it may be toggled |
| 10:30.55 | Ka[L]ekin | Lemme see |
| 10:30.58 | Galois-evariste | right on |
| 10:31.06 | Galois-evariste | its not set unit state i'm looking at it now and id ont see anything like it there |
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| 10:37.28 | Galois-evariste | any luck? |
| 10:40.47 | Bablo | umm, anyone know where the models attack animation is configured? |
| 10:41.02 | Bablo | is it in actors or models? |
| 10:41.27 | Bablo | nope, not in models, so it must be actors |
| 10:49.40 | Hati | 00:00:02.75 Trigger Error in 'gt_UnitReachsCPE_Func': An error occurred starting StarCraft II. Please try again.e_arrayIndexOverflow |
| 10:49.42 | Hati | meh |
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| 10:57.29 | Galois-evariste | =( |
| 10:57.44 | Galois-evariste | i'm sad |
| 10:57.46 | Galois-evariste | http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=144261 |
| 10:59.54 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 11:04.44 | fietstas | need 2 people to help me test a new map i made |
| 11:04.50 | fietstas | (europe) |
| 11:05.04 | Hati | here |
| 11:05.13 | fietstas | please add me on sc2 |
| 11:05.16 | fietstas | fietstas.277 |
| 11:05.24 | fietstas | just msg me and i'l invite you |
| 11:07.49 | Bablo | I can test, if you wanna test my map after that? |
| 11:07.57 | fietstas | sure bablo |
| 11:08.00 | Bablo | great |
| 11:08.36 | Bablo | Bablo.376 |
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| 11:20.43 | Galois-evariste | d |
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| 11:41.31 | Bablo | yeah, thanks for the feedback and your time, fietstas and Hati |
| 11:41.42 | fietstas | thanks for yours aswell :)\ |
| 11:42.48 | Bablo | :) |
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| 12:04.19 | Bibendus|AFK | wow |
| 12:04.20 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 34 minutes 26 seconds |
| 12:04.30 | Bibendus | it's so easy to block popularity of other maps |
| 12:04.31 | Bibendus | ... |
| 12:04.46 | Bibendus | a fucking bastard started a lobby of corpses |
| 12:04.48 | Bibendus | and never starts |
| 12:04.53 | Bibendus | forcing other players to leave |
| 12:04.58 | Bibendus | so popularity goes down |
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| 12:06.08 | Tinman | I liked the old system from SC, the popularity was a good idea though... if it worked. |
| 12:06.57 | Bibendus | shit |
| 12:07.03 | Bibendus | this bastard is decreasing my map popularity |
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| 12:07.04 | Bibendus | as hell |
| 12:07.30 | Etherimp | Is SC2 out yet? |
| 12:07.38 | Etherimp | (Bad question, I know.) |
| 12:07.42 | Tinman | lol |
| 12:07.47 | Hati | seriously? |
| 12:07.49 | Bibendus | i hope he dies in terrible pain |
| 12:08.02 | Bibendus | do someone know a guy called "thesoul" ? |
| 12:08.03 | Hati | yes it is ethe |
| 12:08.04 | Hati | r |
| 12:08.04 | Bibendus | on EU |
| 12:08.05 | Etherimp | I just saw the channel. Haven't been keeping up on recently released games lately. |
| 12:08.07 | Etherimp | Thanks, Hati. |
| 12:08.13 | Etherimp | How is it? |
| 12:08.29 | Etherimp | In fact this is the first time I've connected to IRC in probably 5 years. |
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| 12:08.41 | kowz | hellllllllo ;p |
| 12:09.13 | Hati | well haven't played such a good campaign for a while |
| 12:09.19 | Etherimp | How's the MP? |
| 12:09.21 | Hati | but havent played much MP yet |
| 12:09.24 | Hati | just in beta |
| 12:09.47 | Etherimp | And am I going to have to upgrade my GFX card and all that shit to play it? |
| 12:10.13 | Tinman | You can tune it way down |
| 12:10.29 | Etherimp | I have a decent box... But haven't upgraded in a while. |
| 12:10.38 | Tinman | I think on low it only needs 256 in GFX Mem |
| 12:12.00 | Tinman | I did try the corpses map out once a day or so ago, it was fun |
| 12:12.30 | Tinman | I played as Swan and placed the flaming turret all over the place roasting some infested butt |
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| 12:13.36 | Etherimp | AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core 6000+ 3000mhz, 4GB Mem, GeForce 8600 GT |
| 12:13.40 | Etherimp | Is it going to be a laggy POS? |
| 12:14.00 | Tinman | I think your fine |
| 12:14.04 | Etherimp | Thanks. |
| 12:14.17 | Etherimp | Have to check it out when I have some cash to sling around. |
| 12:14.53 | Etherimp | Is the official SC2 channel on this network as well? |
| 12:15.04 | Sixen | There is no official SC2 channel =| |
| 12:15.17 | Tinman | If anything this is it :p |
| 12:15.19 | Etherimp | scratches his head in confusion. |
| 12:15.21 | Sixen | :) |
| 12:15.22 | Etherimp | That works. |
| 12:15.53 | Etherimp | #sc2 is the StarControl2 channel.. also a badass game. :D |
| 12:16.02 | Etherimp | IF you're into classic gaming. |
| 12:16.33 | Hati | hmm |
| 12:16.37 | Tinman | Another shameless self promotion coming up. Custom map Commentaries! |
| 12:16.38 | Tinman | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/7415-ums-commentaries-sc2tinman/#p4 |
| 12:16.58 | Tinman | is a bad little robot |
| 12:17.32 | kowz | any1 here got some sweet ambient/progressive trance tracks they want to share? I can offer some sweet tracks of pmuch any genre in return - looking for something new tonight :) |
| 12:17.46 | Etherimp | The GFX are pretty badass. |
| 12:17.54 | Etherimp | Kowz, I'm listening to house music right now. |
| 12:17.58 | Etherimp | Richard Humpty Vission |
| 12:18.05 | Etherimp | Album is called "Automatic" |
| 12:18.25 | Etherimp | I dig Juno Reactor, also. |
| 12:18.29 | Etherimp | Among other things. |
| 12:19.21 | Etherimp | Hybrid - Finished Theory |
| 12:19.27 | Etherimp | I think that may be along the lines you're looking for..? |
| 12:19.32 | Etherimp | Sure you've probably heard it. |
| 12:19.39 | fietstas | guys i just got a weird error while trying to upload my map.. |
| 12:19.57 | kowz | back |
| 12:20.07 | kowz | hit u up with a quer, but guess its quiet enough here to chat lol |
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| 12:20.46 | fietstas | validation_working_set_score_screen_fail (C:\documents\files\temp files\publish\mapname |
| 12:20.52 | fietstas | any idea how to fix that error? |
| 12:22.04 | Bibendus | omg i hate this guy |
| 12:22.10 | Bibendus | hes fully locking my map |
| 12:22.21 | Bibendus | bnet sucks more every day |
| 12:22.26 | Sixen | lol |
| 12:22.29 | Sixen | your map? |
| 12:22.32 | Bibendus | ye |
| 12:22.33 | Etherimp | hax? |
| 12:22.35 | Bibendus | he started a lobby |
| 12:22.36 | Bibendus | and gone afk |
| 12:22.40 | Sixen | oh... |
| 12:22.41 | Sixen | =\ |
| 12:22.42 | Bibendus | s all join his lobby |
| 12:22.47 | Bibendus | and noone can start |
| 12:22.55 | Bibendus | because bnet joins automatically the older lobby |
| 12:23.10 | Bibendus | the popularity of my map is gone -80% |
| 12:23.14 | Bibendus | ... |
| 12:23.21 | Phaos | when the map fills up it auto starts doesn't it ? |
| 12:23.25 | Bibendus | nope |
| 12:23.35 | Bibendus | the host must start it |
| 12:24.05 | Phaos | I'v hosted a bunch of UMS maps and they all start auto on me when it fills up |
| 12:24.57 | Tinman | Bibendus I will try get a commentary for Corpses out. That would show that butt hole! |
| 12:25.25 | Bibendus | ok :D |
| 12:25.42 | Bibendus | so you are doin the commentary as? |
| 12:25.51 | Bibendus | phaos |
| 12:25.55 | Bibendus | i dont think they auto start |
| 12:26.00 | Bibendus | but simply the host press start when its fulòl |
| 12:26.01 | Bibendus | :V |
| 12:26.14 | Phaos | nu I mean when I host |
| 12:26.19 | Phaos | it just starts on me when it fills up |
| 12:26.34 | Tinman | Depends if there are A.I or not |
| 12:28.40 | fietstas | anyone can help me out with this error? |
| 12:29.18 | Tinman | Sorry, I have never seen that error |
| 12:31.03 | fietstas | i'l post it on the forums and see if anyone can find out how to fix it.. |
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| 12:34.59 | Galois-evariste | ~ |
| 12:36.30 | Tinman | I will start playing a shit load of custom games in a hour or so (need to fill the grubler first) hopefully I get some great games down. |
| 12:37.39 | fietstas | http://img821.imageshack.us/f/errorhelppls.png/ |
| 12:37.44 | fietstas | if you have any idea how to fix that error |
| 12:37.46 | fietstas | please tell me |
| 12:39.16 | Phaos | you might want to expand the info line so we can read the entire error :3 |
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| 12:41.37 | Acemore | is it possible to log on to US bnet with an EU client? |
| 12:41.45 | Acemore | if you have a US account |
| 12:41.49 | Acemore | just not the US client |
| 12:41.58 | Phaos | we wish! |
| 12:42.09 | Acemore | so you need both clients |
| 12:42.09 | Acemore | :\ |
| 12:42.18 | Phaos | essentially |
| 12:43.30 | Tinman | We need to start up a crew, like OperationCWAL to get battle.net region free! |
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| 12:47.19 | Galois-evariste | question |
| 12:47.23 | Galois-evariste | i have a problem here |
| 12:47.30 | Galois-evariste | i have a dialog window that i create and show |
| 12:47.37 | Galois-evariste | and i have it check when a button on it is clicked |
| 12:47.40 | Galois-evariste | it works fine at first |
| 12:47.50 | Galois-evariste | however when i close it out and bring it up again later, the buttons no longer work |
| 12:47.54 | Galois-evariste | wtf? |
| 12:48.42 | Galois-evariste | everything looks the same in the window - its just that the trigger i use for "if a dialog item is checked" doesn't somehow doesn't work |
| 12:49.28 | Galois-evariste | interesting |
| 12:49.31 | Galois-evariste | i just checked and the event is firing |
| 12:49.40 | Galois-evariste | but for some reason the dialog items in the window |
| 12:49.43 | Galois-evariste | specifically the buttons anyway |
| 12:49.49 | Galois-evariste | are for some reason not the same.. |
| 12:51.13 | Galois-evariste | i take it back i apologize |
| 12:51.18 | Galois-evariste | i forgot to reset something |
| 12:51.20 | Galois-evariste | ggyo |
| 12:56.01 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 12:58.51 | ProzaicMuze | Hey Sixen? You around? |
| 13:09.27 | Galois-evariste | question |
| 13:09.32 | Galois-evariste | is it okay to have two images with the same image id |
| 13:09.38 | Galois-evariste | if i want them to be shown and hidden at the same time? |
| 13:10.27 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/armagetron/. Troncraft. rayquaza11 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Sixen. |
| 13:10.32 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/paczerg/. Paczerg. rayquaza11 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Sixen. |
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| 13:14.10 | molsterr | morning |
| 13:14.56 | molsterr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:27.41 | Galois-evariste | ~ |
| 13:36.54 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/valve-dot-a-ingame-cinematic-income-wars-shoutcast/ |
| 13:40.56 | Galois-evariste | i've got it! |
| 13:41.00 | Galois-evariste | to get a map into the contest |
| 13:41.09 | Galois-evariste | just recycle a map you've already made and do something to it |
| 13:41.12 | Galois-evariste | that way its not the same! |
| 13:41.16 | Galois-evariste | its so simple it cannot fail! |
| 13:46.20 | Galois-evariste | question |
| 13:46.28 | Galois-evariste | what's the difference between active players and all players? |
| 13:46.45 | Galois-evariste | and how are they not the same |
| 13:46.53 | Galois-evariste | or* |
| 13:49.19 | Bibendus|AFK | grrrrrrr |
| 13:49.19 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 23 minutes 18 seconds |
| 13:49.27 | Bibendus | this sucker is still here blocking the lobby |
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| 13:50.07 | vjeux | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/5/190/Terreno_009.jpg |
| 13:50.09 | vjeux | this is sc2 :p |
| 13:50.55 | Bibendus | no more wow plz :V |
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| 13:51.59 | Galois-evariste | vjeux |
| 13:52.03 | Galois-evariste | is this with the sc2 editor? |
| 13:52.05 | vjeux | yes |
| 13:52.06 | WaterKnight | http://peeeq.de/uploads/Water/dotaCover.jpg |
| 13:52.15 | Clord | regions are kinda giveaway |
| 13:52.18 | Clord | XD |
| 13:52.24 | Clord | circle region :) |
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| 13:52.55 | Clord | I made sudden death to be also in standard the card game map |
| 13:53.01 | Clord | I just got again match what dragged on |
| 13:53.03 | Clord | 56 minutes |
| 13:53.13 | Bablo | Can I rotate a model in data editor somehow? |
| 13:54.21 | Hati | meh need bigger memstick for my psp :( |
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| 13:55.16 | Bablo | nevermind, found it |
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| 14:19.41 | Clord | Nova could use attack called SUper Nova |
| 14:19.42 | Clord | XD |
| 14:20.55 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 14:21.26 | currydevil | Arturus, are ya there? |
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| 14:36.01 | Lasion | Mornin' |
| 14:38.06 | SweetZombieJesus | morning |
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| 14:40.29 | Technomancer | mornin |
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| 14:44.47 | Bablo | how can I set the UI-Text to appear only to a certain player? |
| 14:44.47 | Lasion | Anything exciting going on? |
| 14:48.58 | Galois-evariste | hell yeah |
| 14:49.01 | Galois-evariste | i'm mappin like a pro son |
| 14:49.08 | Galois-evariste | i'm all like "WHATS UP EIDTOR" |
| 14:49.15 | Galois-evariste | and the editor is like "OH SHIT ITS YOU I LOVE YOU MAN" |
| 14:49.17 | Galois-evariste | and then we high five |
| 14:50.11 | Bablo | http://www.concentratedawesome.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/gorilla_shark_nice_high_five.jpg <- like this, Galois-evariste? |
| 14:50.21 | Galois-evariste | fuck yeah son |
| 14:50.32 | Bablo | awesome |
| 14:56.04 | Galois-evariste | how much do you guys want to bet that ac130k will be entered into the $5000 contest? |
| 14:56.20 | Galois-evariste | because if so we might as well just say f it and quit |
| 15:01.09 | Bablo | I was thinking the same thing yesterday :P |
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| 15:03.02 | SweetZombieJesus | anyone familair with Set Bearings? |
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| 15:03.10 | SweetZombieJesus | need to set Forward XYZ and Up XYZ |
| 15:03.14 | SweetZombieJesus | and i have no idea how that works |
| 15:03.29 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 15:03.32 | P_R_Deltoid | they set bearings |
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| 15:03.33 | P_R_Deltoid | I know that much |
| 15:03.38 | P_R_Deltoid | Hope this helps! |
| 15:03.41 | SweetZombieJesus | thx |
| 15:03.43 | SweetZombieJesus | .. |
| 15:03.48 | Guest32124 | I have a problem in the lobby with a coop vs AI map I made... I have 4v4, 8 start locations and I have the map variants setup correctly, yet when i create a game in lobby, there are 4 comps on bottom, and a 5th in top with the users... where is this comp comming from? |
| 15:04.08 | P_R_Deltoid | You set it wrong. |
| 15:04.41 | nitroball | waz new in Mapster land? |
| 15:04.51 | Guest32124 | I have checked several times and i cant find it, i have 2 teams, 4 users vs 4 comps in variants |
| 15:05.21 | P_R_Deltoid | Welp |
| 15:05.25 | P_R_Deltoid | sorry to tell you this |
| 15:05.29 | P_R_Deltoid | but you checked incorrectly |
| 15:05.32 | P_R_Deltoid | and something is set wrong |
| 15:05.45 | Guest32124 | any idea what it would be or where? |
| 15:06.25 | P_R_Deltoid | game variants |
| 15:06.28 | P_R_Deltoid | it is a melee map? |
| 15:06.35 | P_R_Deltoid | you don't have any triggers that could be fucki8ng it up? |
| 15:06.47 | Guest32124 | melee map, no triggers |
| 15:07.04 | P_R_Deltoid | then it is set wrong in the game variants |
| 15:07.12 | P_R_Deltoid | possibly, are you including player 0 as a player character? |
| 15:07.23 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec, gonna open the editor |
| 15:07.30 | Guest32124 | ok |
| 15:07.50 | Bablo | asking again, if someone would know it now.. How can I set the UI - Text message to appear only to a certain player? |
| 15:08.03 | SweetZombieJesus | it says |
| 15:08.05 | SweetZombieJesus | player number |
| 15:08.39 | Galois-evariste | question |
| 15:08.55 | Bablo | was that for me SweetZombieJesus? |
| 15:08.57 | Galois-evariste | for some reason my fog of war is not put back into place when i disable a revealer and then set its area to unexplored |
| 15:08.59 | Galois-evariste | wtf |
| 15:09.00 | SweetZombieJesus | yes |
| 15:09.06 | Bablo | no it doesnt say |
| 15:09.07 | P_R_Deltoid | Guest32124, you set players 4-8 to computer in Player Properties |
| 15:09.12 | Bablo | in UI -> Text Message |
| 15:09.19 | P_R_Deltoid | right? |
| 15:09.23 | Guest32124 | Yep |
| 15:09.24 | SweetZombieJesus | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.27 | P_R_Deltoid | wrong |
| 15:09.29 | SweetZombieJesus | says All Players for me |
| 15:09.38 | P_R_Deltoid | 5-9 need to be set to computer! |
| 15:09.40 | Guest32124 | wait no, its all users |
| 15:09.44 | P_R_Deltoid | 4-8 is 5 people. |
| 15:09.50 | P_R_Deltoid | you said... computers... |
| 15:09.51 | P_R_Deltoid | what |
| 15:10.00 | Bablo | yeah All Players |
| 15:10.03 | Guest32124 | but if i change it in player properties, the map changes to custom instead of melee |
| 15:10.05 | Bablo | how can I set it to a certain player |
| 15:10.23 | Guest32124 | you set computers in the Variants |
| 15:10.23 | SweetZombieJesus | click onit |
| 15:10.25 | SweetZombieJesus | enter number |
| 15:10.30 | Bablo | just a number? |
| 15:10.33 | Bablo | and it works? |
| 15:10.35 | SweetZombieJesus | 1 = player 1 |
| 15:10.36 | SweetZombieJesus | etc |
| 15:10.48 | P_R_Deltoid | You linked them in Team Basics, Guest32124 ? |
| 15:10.51 | Bablo | theres only a chance for a custom script.. does it work with just a number? |
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| 15:10.55 | P_R_Deltoid | Wait |
| 15:11.05 | SweetZombieJesus | there is Value |
| 15:11.05 | P_R_Deltoid | so the problem isn't the placement, it's there there a computer where a player should be |
| 15:11.12 | Bablo | No there isnt :F |
| 15:11.23 | Guest32124 | right, theres an extra computer appearing |
| 15:11.26 | Bablo | Function, Preset, Variable and Custom Script |
| 15:11.34 | SweetZombieJesus | go to function |
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| 15:11.36 | P_R_Deltoid | so 8 total, 5 computer |
| 15:11.37 | P_R_Deltoid | s |
| 15:11.41 | Bablo | yeah |
| 15:11.41 | Galois-evariste | yoyo |
| 15:11.41 | SweetZombieJesus | Convert Player to Player Group |
| 15:11.43 | Galois-evariste | the problem si this |
| 15:11.45 | Galois-evariste | there you go |
| 15:11.46 | P_R_Deltoid | well, is he hostile? |
| 15:11.47 | SweetZombieJesus | now you can enter a value |
| 15:11.47 | Galois-evariste | now he's got it |
| 15:11.48 | Guest32124 | right, but i only want 4 computer |
| 15:11.50 | P_R_Deltoid | aka is he on the other team |
| 15:11.51 | Bablo | ok, thanks |
| 15:11.58 | P_R_Deltoid | or is he on your team |
| 15:11.59 | Galois-evariste | okay my turn |
| 15:12.02 | Galois-evariste | question |
| 15:12.08 | Guest32124 | no the 5th is showing up on the users team, taking up a user slot |
| 15:12.16 | Galois-evariste | my fog of war is not reinstated when i enable black mask again and then set the region as unexplored |
| 15:12.18 | Galois-evariste | wtf? |
| 15:12.19 | P_R_Deltoid | and how are you testing this? |
| 15:12.25 | Guest32124 | online |
| 15:12.29 | Guest32124 | publishing it |
| 15:12.34 | Galois-evariste | and disable the revealer |
| 15:13.26 | Galois-evariste | =( |
| 15:13.29 | P_R_Deltoid | and you are sure you didn't set that player to be a computer?> |
| 15:13.46 | Guest32124 | no |
| 15:13.50 | Guest32124 | just checked |
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| 15:14.32 | P_R_Deltoid | and you are using the correct Variant in-game? |
| 15:14.44 | Guest32124 | yes |
| 15:15.12 | P_R_Deltoid | weird |
| 15:15.14 | P_R_Deltoid | welp |
| 15:15.18 | P_R_Deltoid | I know very little about this |
| 15:15.19 | P_R_Deltoid | but |
| 15:15.23 | P_R_Deltoid | apparently something is wrong! |
| 15:15.30 | Guest32124 | lol |
| 15:16.49 | P_R_Deltoid | also, you should probably change your name |
| 15:16.56 | P_R_Deltoid | Most people don't like Guest names. |
| 15:17.04 | Guest32124 | I try but it doesnt let me |
| 15:17.08 | Galois-evariste | what's wrong with a guest nam |
| 15:17.09 | P_R_Deltoid | doesn't let you how? |
| 15:17.10 | Galois-evariste | e |
| 15:17.12 | Guest32124 | cause im using like a web browser IRC and not a client |
| 15:17.13 | Galois-evariste | nothing's wrong with a gust name |
| 15:17.21 | Galois-evariste | guest* - don't listen to him |
| 15:17.21 | P_R_Deltoid | More than 1 and it because a very confusing ordeal |
| 15:17.26 | P_R_Deltoid | Alright |
| 15:17.34 | Guest32124 | whats the command to change name again? |
| 15:17.35 | P_R_Deltoid | I mean I ain't forcing you, but most other channels I go to kick for it |
| 15:17.36 | Galois-evariste | boo hoo i have to memorize numbers when i argue with someone |
| 15:17.36 | P_R_Deltoid | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:17.49 | P_R_Deltoid | I would never memorize the numbers, I'd just ignore them |
| 15:17.54 | P_R_Deltoid | and I am sure most others would too |
| 15:17.58 | P_R_Deltoid | because no one cares enough |
| 15:17.59 | P_R_Deltoid | See |
| 15:18.01 | Sagacious7165 | ah it worked this time |
| 15:18.07 | Galois-evariste | somehow i think you're full of shit there |
| 15:18.09 | P_R_Deltoid | Now he is Sagacious7165 and no one has to read those silly numbers. |
| 15:18.14 | Galois-evariste | AW |
| 15:18.33 | P_R_Deltoid | that people would bother memorizing 5 numbers at the end of a name because the person is too lazy/confused to change their name? |
| 15:18.35 | Sagacious7615 | what now son |
| 15:18.36 | P_R_Deltoid | Funny. |
| 15:18.37 | Sagacious7165 | whenever i join, it says -NickServ- You failed to identify in time for the nickname Sagacious_ |
| 15:18.40 | Sagacious7615 | what's up |
| 15:18.41 | Sagacious7165 | how do i identify? |
| 15:18.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Gonna ignore you for the time being! |
| 15:18.52 | Sagacious7615 | have fun with that |
| 15:18.53 | P_R_Deltoid | The easy solution |
| 15:19.02 | Sagacious7615 | but its easy for you to do it because we're not arguing |
| 15:19.37 | P_R_Deltoid | When I have to type like 5 numbers after an autocomplete, it ain't worth it to talk to someone who wants to be a smartass |
| 15:19.47 | P_R_Deltoid | in any case |
| 15:19.49 | P_R_Deltoid | Thanks, Sagacious7165 |
| 15:20.01 | P_R_Deltoid | Just a good idea when on IRC< a lot of channels dislike the username 'Guest' |
| 15:20.32 | Sagacious7165 | ok this 5th computer is driving me crazy |
| 15:20.50 | P_R_Deltoid | vOv |
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| 15:24.28 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/map-review/ |
| 15:24.34 | vjeux | i've just opened a new forum |
| 15:24.42 | P_R_Deltoid | I don't like it. |
| 15:24.45 | vjeux | if you played a map and liked it (or not) |
| 15:24.48 | P_R_Deltoid | Crossing my arms irl. |
| 15:24.58 | vjeux | just comment it there :) |
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| 15:25.50 | SweetZombieJesus | how can i set Is Local with a trigger? |
| 15:25.57 | SweetZombieJesus | i think thats why rotation wont work |
| 15:26.38 | nitroball | oh yeah! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Xwe8F6WM0 |
| 15:27.39 | pkol | um |
| 15:27.47 | Unrea1 | Sup bros |
| 15:27.52 | Unrea1 | Just wakin up :| |
| 15:28.16 | nitroball | sup |
| 15:28.49 | nitroball | animating a fully custom unit |
| 15:29.05 | vjeux | MindWorX`: here? |
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| 15:29.15 | Unrea1 | Oh gawd |
| 15:30.01 | nitroball | http://yfrog.com/8bbearyj |
| 15:30.21 | Unrea1 | Random bear is random |
| 15:30.23 | vjeux | lol nice |
| 15:30.36 | nitroball | pedobear |
| 15:30.44 | Unrea1 | lol |
| 15:30.46 | nitroball | jk |
| 15:31.18 | Galois-evariste | question |
| 15:31.35 | Galois-evariste | how do i reinstate the black mask? |
| 15:31.44 | Galois-evariste | because the whole "unexplore area" thing doesn't do that |
| 15:31.48 | Galois-evariste | in fact i don't think it does anything really |
| 15:31.54 | P_R_Deltoid | reinstate? |
| 15:31.58 | P_R_Deltoid | make the entire map black again? |
| 15:32.02 | P_R_Deltoid | Or change fog of war consistancy? |
| 15:32.09 | Galois-evariste | yes |
| 15:32.12 | Galois-evariste | make the entire map black again |
| 15:32.15 | P_R_Deltoid | okay |
| 15:32.28 | P_R_Deltoid | you are doing something already for it? |
| 15:32.45 | Galois-evariste | none of the visibility actions apparently get it done |
| 15:32.50 | Galois-evariste | i've been fucking with it for half an hour |
| 15:33.24 | Galois-evariste | disable revealer makes it gray mask |
| 15:33.28 | Galois-evariste | unexplore area makes it gray mask |
| 15:33.55 | Galois-evariste | explore area makes it gray mask |
| 15:33.58 | Galois-evariste | it makes no sense to me |
| 15:34.01 | nitroball | I'll should try and convert a units bone animations into biped (.bip) animations, so I can easily map it onto mine... I read that there's a way to do it |
| 15:34.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Aw okay, so you set it to black mask, and doing the "Make Map Unexplored for Player" makes it grey |
| 15:34.45 | P_R_Deltoid | that is the problem? |
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| 15:36.10 | Galois-evariste | yes |
| 15:36.22 | Galois-evariste | none of the visibility actions reinstate the black mask |
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| 15:36.26 | Galois-evariste | black mask is the default fog of war |
| 15:36.27 | P_R_Deltoid | Does for me... |
| 15:36.32 | Galois-evariste | wtfuu |
| 15:36.39 | P_R_Deltoid | It was the default in SC2. |
| 15:36.40 | P_R_Deltoid | erm |
| 15:36.41 | P_R_Deltoid | SC1 |
| 15:36.44 | P_R_Deltoid | but not SC2, greymask is |
| 15:36.52 | Galois-evariste | >_> |
| 15:36.52 | P_R_Deltoid | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.55 | P_R_Deltoid | this works just fine |
| 15:36.57 | Galois-evariste | YES |
| 15:36.59 | Galois-evariste | look |
| 15:37.01 | Galois-evariste | let me copy paste |
| 15:37.08 | Galois-evariste | i have the exact same fucking thing and it takes it to gray |
| 15:37.20 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.24 | Galois-evariste | EXACT SAME THING |
| 15:37.28 | Galois-evariste | and yet it turns everything gray |
| 15:37.32 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 15:37.34 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 15:37.41 | Galois-evariste | hang on |
| 15:37.44 | Galois-evariste | i take that back |
| 15:37.48 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 15:37.49 | Galois-evariste | the black areas are left alone |
| 15:37.49 | P_R_Deltoid | ? |
| 15:37.55 | Galois-evariste | but the explored areas are not set to be unexplored |
| 15:37.59 | Galois-evariste | the explored areas are not black |
| 15:38.01 | Galois-evariste | they turn gray |
| 15:38.04 | Galois-evariste | so there's no change |
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| 15:38.18 | Galois-evariste | if i set it all to explored, the black areas turn grey |
| 15:38.21 | P_R_Deltoid | how did you put blaskmask on? Map Options or a trigger? |
| 15:38.26 | Galois-evariste | but if i set it to unexplored, the gray areas don't turn black |
| 15:38.29 | Galois-evariste | map options and trigger |
| 15:38.33 | P_R_Deltoid | AND a trigger? |
| 15:38.34 | Galois-evariste | i've been fucking with this for half an hour |
| 15:38.38 | P_R_Deltoid | WHy did you bother doing both? |
| 15:38.40 | Galois-evariste | i didn't originally |
| 15:38.42 | Galois-evariste | BECAUSE IT DOESNT WORK |
| 15:38.46 | Galois-evariste | so i try to emphasize |
| 15:38.47 | P_R_Deltoid | What didn't work.. |
| 15:38.49 | Galois-evariste | by repeating the trigger |
| 15:38.52 | Galois-evariste | ugh |
| 15:38.53 | P_R_Deltoid | What? |
| 15:38.54 | Galois-evariste | oh my god |
| 15:38.56 | P_R_Deltoid | Dude |
| 15:38.58 | P_R_Deltoid | Settle down |
| 15:39.04 | P_R_Deltoid | I have it working perfectly |
| 15:39.12 | Galois-evariste | i have explored territory |
| 15:39.12 | P_R_Deltoid | so bare with me while I try to figure out where yours isn't working |
| 15:39.13 | Galois-evariste | it is gray |
| 15:39.20 | Galois-evariste | not all of the map is gray - some of it is black |
| 15:39.24 | Galois-evariste | i tell the game |
| 15:39.27 | Galois-evariste | to u nexplore the whole map |
| 15:39.32 | Galois-evariste | and it does nothing |
| 15:39.37 | Galois-evariste | the gray area does not turn black |
| 15:39.47 | Galois-evariste | it stays the same |
| 15:39.51 | Constant_ | hi |
| 15:39.53 | Constant_ | i can |
| 15:39.53 | Constant_ | type |
| 15:39.55 | Constant_ | several |
| 15:39.55 | P_R_Deltoid | Okay |
| 15:39.56 | Constant_ | lines |
| 15:39.56 | Constant_ | too |
| 15:39.58 | P_R_Deltoid | I understand the problem |
| 15:39.58 | Galois-evariste | that is the situation and the problem |
| 15:40.04 | P_R_Deltoid | Now |
| 15:40.05 | P_R_Deltoid | Tell me |
| 15:40.11 | P_R_Deltoid | How did you set the Fog of W ar to be blackmask |
| 15:40.14 | P_R_Deltoid | Originally |
| 15:40.20 | P_R_Deltoid | How does the fog of war become blackmask on your map |
| 15:40.25 | Galois-evariste | ffs its been black mask (reduced radius) and then black mask |
| 15:40.29 | Galois-evariste | i've been siwtching everything here |
| 15:40.37 | Galois-evariste | when it doesn't work i try to reset it to black mask via a trigger for emphasis |
| 15:40.40 | P_R_Deltoid | Not what I asked. |
| 15:40.42 | P_R_Deltoid | OKay |
| 15:40.43 | P_R_Deltoid | So |
| 15:40.43 | Galois-evariste | and yet it doesn't change the result |
| 15:40.48 | P_R_Deltoid | You set it with Game Properties |
| 15:40.51 | P_R_Deltoid | correct? |
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| 15:40.57 | Galois-evariste | map properties |
| 15:41.02 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah, that |
| 15:41.03 | P_R_Deltoid | alright |
| 15:41.06 | Galois-evariste | and yes it was what you asked |
| 15:41.15 | Galois-evariste | you asked two questions |
| 15:41.18 | Galois-evariste | i gave you the answer to one |
| 15:41.18 | P_R_Deltoid | Have you tried restarting the editor?> |
| 15:41.28 | Galois-evariste | i don't have any idea how that would affect things but no |
| 15:41.36 | P_R_Deltoid | the editor has a lot of graphical glitches |
| 15:41.45 | P_R_Deltoid | often remedied by restarting. |
| 15:41.47 | Galois-evariste | and those graphical glitches affect the game when you run it? |
| 15:41.52 | P_R_Deltoid | Man |
| 15:42.00 | P_R_Deltoid | you just don't want help do you? |
| 15:42.01 | P_R_Deltoid | It's cool |
| 15:42.07 | P_R_Deltoid | Gonna go ladder, maybe you will cool off |
| 15:42.13 | Galois-evariste | ffs you're not giving me help you'r ejust sitting there saying shit |
| 15:42.13 | P_R_Deltoid | and stop trying to attack the one person trying to help. |
| 15:42.16 | Constant_ | lol |
| 15:42.17 | Galois-evariste | and giving me suggestions that have nothing to do with the problem |
| 15:42.25 | P_R_Deltoid | Settle down |
| 15:42.28 | P_R_Deltoid | It's a map editor |
| 15:42.31 | P_R_Deltoid | it isn't even a videogame |
| 15:42.33 | P_R_Deltoid | settle down |
| 15:42.48 | Galois-evariste | then when i question you, you just tell me i'm stupid or that i need to settle down |
| 15:42.54 | Galois-evariste | how silly is that |
| 15:43.00 | P_R_Deltoid | Not very silly, considering you |
| 15:43.05 | P_R_Deltoid | re are literally freaking the fuck out right now |
| 15:43.09 | Galois-evariste | look who's talking |
| 15:43.22 | P_R_Deltoid | Can we get a third opinion? WHo is the one freaking the fuck out here? |
| 15:43.24 | Galois-evariste | the image of my in your head is freaking the fuck out |
| 15:43.32 | Galois-evariste | don't confuse the two |
| 15:43.58 | Constant_ | I think Galois needs to stop talking about what he's done and just say what he needs to be done |
| 15:44.07 | Galois-evariste | scroll up then douchebag |
| 15:44.11 | Galois-evariste | it was the first thing i said |
| 15:44.22 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 15:44.27 | P_R_Deltoid | All I can say is |
| 15:44.30 | Galois-evariste | anyway - on the off chance that a graphical error of the editor can affect the game, i restarted the editor and there's no change |
| 15:44.30 | Constant_ | Sorry, I don't read sentences split up in 10 rows, douchebag. |
| 15:44.32 | P_R_Deltoid | It works for me, you fucked up |
| 15:44.37 | P_R_Deltoid | End of story |
| 15:44.42 | P_R_Deltoid | if you don't want help figuring out WHAT you did wrong |
| 15:44.47 | P_R_Deltoid | then by all means, I won't help |
| 15:44.48 | Galois-evariste | what the fuck |
| 15:44.52 | P_R_Deltoid | Works for me |
| 15:44.53 | P_R_Deltoid | you fucked up |
| 15:44.54 | Galois-evariste | the entire reason i'm chatting here is because i want help |
| 15:44.55 | P_R_Deltoid | works |
| 15:44.56 | P_R_Deltoid | for |
| 15:44.56 | P_R_Deltoid | me |
| 15:44.56 | P_R_Deltoid | you |
| 15:44.57 | P_R_Deltoid | fucked |
| 15:44.58 | Galois-evariste | and you're saying i don't |
| 15:44.58 | P_R_Deltoid | up |
| 15:45.00 | P_R_Deltoid | hope this helps. |
| 15:45.03 | Galois-evariste | how retarded is that |
| 15:45.09 | Galois-evariste | what an asshole |
| 15:45.12 | P_R_Deltoid | You definitely don't |
| 15:45.19 | Galois-evariste | what the fuck is this |
| 15:45.26 | Constant_ | how about you repeat what you need to be done so someone can really help you? :p |
| 15:45.30 | P_R_Deltoid | <Galois-evariste> ffs you're not giving me help you'r ejust sitting there saying shit |
| 15:45.34 | P_R_Deltoid | this is you. |
| 15:45.36 | Galois-evariste | which is what you're doing |
| 15:45.37 | P_R_Deltoid | this is you being angry |
| 15:45.38 | Galois-evariste | right now |
| 15:45.44 | Galois-evariste | oh my god |
| 15:45.55 | P_R_Deltoid | Should I use... hand signals or something? |
| 15:46.01 | P_R_Deltoid | help through sign language? |
| 15:46.03 | Galois-evariste | constant: |
| 15:46.06 | Galois-evariste | <Galois-evariste>question |
| 15:46.08 | P_R_Deltoid | telepathically help you? |
| 15:46.08 | Galois-evariste | <Galois-evariste>how do i reinstate the black mask? |
| 15:46.10 | Galois-evariste | <Galois-evariste>because the whole "unexplore area" thing doesn't do that |
| 15:46.11 | Galois-evariste | <Galois-evariste>in fact i don't think it does anything really |
| 15:46.13 | Galois-evariste | that's the start |
| 15:46.16 | Galois-evariste | go fuck yourself deltoid |
| 15:46.19 | Galois-evariste | you're being an asshole |
| 15:46.19 | P_R_Deltoid | Answer: It does do that, you fucked up |
| 15:46.26 | P_R_Deltoid | The pot calling the kettle black |
| 15:46.40 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.43 | Galois-evariste | same thing |
| 15:46.45 | P_R_Deltoid | Works just fine for me |
| 15:46.47 | Galois-evariste | different result |
| 15:46.49 | ProzaicMuze | PR, don't bother |
| 15:46.49 | P_R_Deltoid | Exactly |
| 15:46.49 | Galois-evariste | don't tell me i fucked up |
| 15:46.50 | P_R_Deltoid | so |
| 15:46.51 | ProzaicMuze | Galois is an idiot |
| 15:46.51 | Constant_ | galois-evariste: so in other words you want a grey mask over whole your map, and not black mask? |
| 15:46.51 | P_R_Deltoid | you fucked up |
| 15:46.53 | Galois-evariste | when its the same damn trigger |
| 15:46.53 | P_R_Deltoid | jesus christ |
| 15:46.55 | ProzaicMuze | He just yells at people |
| 15:47.02 | ProzaicMuze | And then mutes then when they don't listen |
| 15:47.02 | P_R_Deltoid | thanks for the second opinion |
| 15:47.03 | Galois-evariste | consatnt you misread |
| 15:47.04 | P_R_Deltoid | gonna ignore him now |
| 15:47.06 | ProzaicMuze | He has me and OneTwo on mute |
| 15:47.06 | Galois-evariste | i want to reinstate the black mask |
| 15:47.08 | P_R_Deltoid | perhaps he a troll |
| 15:47.10 | Galois-evariste | i'll do the same deltoid |
| 15:47.12 | Galois-evariste | go suck a dick |
| 15:47.15 | ProzaicMuze | He is a troll |
| 15:47.19 | ProzaicMuze | I've already spoken with Sixen |
| 15:47.20 | Galois-evariste | anyway |
| 15:47.21 | Constant_ | so then you want unexplored = black mask? |
| 15:47.23 | ProzaicMuze | Vjeux |
| 15:47.26 | ProzaicMuze | if you're here |
| 15:47.28 | Galois-evariste | the unexplored is already black mask |
| 15:47.33 | ProzaicMuze | please kick Galois until Sixen has a chance to talk to him |
| 15:47.33 | Galois-evariste | i want to change the gray to the black mask |
| 15:47.35 | vjeux | yes |
| 15:47.37 | Galois-evariste | back to what it originally was |
| 15:47.47 | ProzaicMuze | Galois has been insulting people for the past 2 days |
| 15:47.56 | P_R_Deltoid | there we go |
| 15:47.57 | P_R_Deltoid | god damn |
| 15:48.00 | lawjeek | oooo |
| 15:48.00 | P_R_Deltoid | ignoring is complicated! |
| 15:48.04 | Constant_ | so in other words, you want explored to be black mask? |
| 15:48.13 | Galois-evariste | that's what i copy pasted for you |
| 15:48.20 | ProzaicMuze | Constant, don't bother helping Galois |
| 15:48.22 | ProzaicMuze | he doesn't listen |
| 15:48.24 | lawjeek | some 1 said you were an asshole over the internet |
| 15:48.28 | lawjeek | QQ |
| 15:48.31 | ProzaicMuze | and he'll just yell at you when you point out that he's not listening |
| 15:48.37 | Galois-evariste | is he talking? |
| 15:48.38 | Galois-evariste | i can't tell |
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| 15:48.41 | P_R_Deltoid | OHHH |
| 15:48.44 | P_R_Deltoid | it's the guy from the stream |
| 15:48.45 | Constant_ | XD |
| 15:48.47 | P_R_Deltoid | who didn't understand modulo |
| 15:48.49 | P_R_Deltoid | I remember now |
| 15:48.51 | Constant_ | so in other words, you want explored to be black mask? <-- galois |
| 15:48.53 | P_R_Deltoid | I thought his name looked familiar |
| 15:48.55 | P_R_Deltoid | hahah, this all makes sense |
| 15:49.08 | Galois-evariste | why are you repeating the same thing over and over in different ways |
| 15:49.13 | Galois-evariste | after i've answered you twice |
| 15:49.18 | Galois-evariste | are you trying to be a dick too? |
| 15:49.18 | Constant_ | im trying to figure out what the fuck you want to be done fuckface |
| 15:49.23 | ProzaicMuze | Constant |
| 15:49.25 | arturusfury | Because they are trying to understand exactly what you are looking to do |
| 15:49.25 | Constant_ | so how about you answer yes or no? |
| 15:49.26 | ProzaicMuze | I JUST told you |
| 15:49.26 | ProzaicMuze | ignore him |
| 15:49.28 | ProzaicMuze | He's a douche |
| 15:49.28 | Galois-evariste | i've already answered you twice and you're still asking |
| 15:49.35 | Constant_ | I know Prozaic |
| 15:49.38 | Galois-evariste | for god's sake i've said it so many times here |
| 15:49.38 | ProzaicMuze | He's just gonna put you on ignore as well |
| 15:49.53 | vjeux | omg :x |
| 15:49.54 | Constant_ | he cant even answer yes or no when he wants help XD |
| 15:49.55 | Constant_ | talk about thick |
| 15:49.59 | ProzaicMuze | Vjeux |
| 15:50.01 | ProzaicMuze | PLEASE kick him |
| 15:50.04 | Galois-evariste | now i'm just being harrassed |
| 15:50.19 | ProzaicMuze | We've been puttin' up with his childish antics for several days now :( |
| 15:50.30 | vjeux | don't you want both just ignore yourselves? |
| 15:50.40 | vjeux | as you can't obviously bear each other :x |
| 15:50.42 | Galois-evariste | i've already ignored several people in here |
| 15:50.48 | Galois-evariste | i got no problem ignoring constant too |
| 15:50.52 | Constant_ | XD |
| 15:50.54 | ProzaicMuze | Vjeux |
| 15:50.59 | Constant_ | trying to help here and this is what i get :( |
| 15:51.01 | ProzaicMuze | ignoring people doesn't solve the problem |
| 15:51.03 | Galois-evariste | oh my god |
| 15:51.05 | ProzaicMuze | Galois has 5+ people on ignore |
| 15:51.07 | Galois-evariste | how insensitive is that |
| 15:51.19 | ProzaicMuze | Then he gets upset when people don't tell him EXACTLY what he wanted to here |
| 15:51.23 | Constant_ | [17:50] <Galois-evariste> now i'm just being harrassed -> [17:51] <Galois-evariste> how insensitive is that -> EPIC! |
| 15:51.25 | P_R_Deltoid | I don't even know how to ignore people! |
| 15:51.26 | ProzaicMuze | If they disagree with him, they're arrogant assholes |
| 15:51.32 | P_R_Deltoid | it blocks like |
| 15:51.32 | Galois-evariste | what? |
| 15:51.34 | P_R_Deltoid | half of the messages |
| 15:51.35 | Galois-evariste | i don't even |
| 15:51.35 | ProzaicMuze | He's the worst kind of troll |
| 15:51.36 | P_R_Deltoid | what the shit is going on |
| 15:51.37 | ProzaicMuze | a serious troll |
| 15:52.00 | ProzaicMuze | Vjeux. . . I will give you sexual favors if you kick him >:D |
| 15:52.03 | ProzaicMuze | And cookies |
| 15:52.07 | ProzaicMuze | goooood yummy cookies |
| 15:52.11 | vjeux | lol |
| 15:52.18 | Constant_ | so in other words, you want explored to be black mask? <-- galois-evariste is it possible for you to answer yes or no to that question? |
| 15:52.34 | Galois-evariste | is it possible for you to scroll the fuck up and use context clues to figure out that the answer is yes? |
| 15:52.39 | Constant_ | ^^ |
| 15:52.42 | Constant_ | answer= no he cant |
| 15:52.46 | Galois-evariste | for god's sake why do you have to be a fucking computer |
| 15:52.51 | Galois-evariste | only accepting two answers here |
| 15:53.05 | Constant_ | [17:52] <Galois-evariste> is it possible for you to scroll the fuck up and use context clues to figure out that the answer is yes? <-- rather writes this than say yes o_O |
| 15:53.26 | lawjeek | well he kinda quite simply said that, and u were rewording it when other poeple were already being difficult so he thought u were trolling him and u never went on to help him whent hats quite clearly what he wantd |
| 15:53.33 | lawjeek | so you were pretty much trolling himc onstant |
| 15:53.38 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 15:53.39 | Galois-evariste | thank you lawjeek |
| 15:53.41 | ProzaicMuze | lawjeek |
| 15:53.41 | Constant_ | lol |
| 15:53.43 | lawjeek | and granted he is kinda dumb and bad at being helped |
| 15:53.44 | Galois-evariste | and i'm pretty sure he knows it too |
| 15:53.44 | ProzaicMuze | That's false |
| 15:53.50 | ProzaicMuze | The first part, that is |
| 15:53.52 | lawjeek | you cant act like u relaly tryed to help him |
| 15:53.53 | Galois-evariste | bad at being helped - what a riot |
| 15:53.53 | ProzaicMuze | Galois is just a troll |
| 15:54.13 | Constant_ | lawjeek: im trying to help him, to know what he means I must understand, I cant help him before understanding :) |
| 15:54.14 | vjeux | please stop! |
| 15:54.26 | vjeux | alright, i got it, you can't bear each other |
| 15:54.29 | vjeux | now seriously stop ... |
| 15:54.34 | ProzaicMuze | Galois can't bear anyone. . . |
| 15:54.38 | P_R_Deltoid | this isn't very good irc modding |
| 15:54.50 | P_R_Deltoid | need more punishment |
| 15:54.52 | molsterr | my first tie in the IRC.... this is looking kinda good o.0; |
| 15:54.53 | ProzaicMuze | Galois just needs to be kicked for a day so he cools off |
| 15:54.57 | ProzaicMuze | Hell, if you watn to kick me for a day too |
| 15:55.05 | ProzaicMuze | I'll gladly take a day off if it means he goes for a day too |
| 15:55.11 | P_R_Deltoid | No don't do that I need to ask questions to ProzaicMuze |
| 15:55.19 | ProzaicMuze | I can still answer via PM |
| 15:55.23 | P_R_Deltoid | Screw that |
| 15:55.26 | P_R_Deltoid | PMs can suck my dick |
| 15:55.28 | P_R_Deltoid | hate those things |
| 15:55.28 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 15:55.34 | ProzaicMuze | As in /query |
| 15:55.38 | P_R_Deltoid | still sucks |
| 15:55.40 | ProzaicMuze | exactly the same, only it's one on one |
| 15:55.43 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 15:55.45 | P_R_Deltoid | gay on gay |
| 15:55.47 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 15:55.54 | P_R_Deltoid | and I ain't gay, ProzaicMuze |
| 15:55.58 | P_R_Deltoid | I ain't gay :< |
| 15:56.03 | ProzaicMuze | Oh you know you're a lil' ghey |
| 15:56.16 | molsterr | o.0;; |
| 15:56.26 | P_R_Deltoid | ain't full gay |
| 15:56.29 | P_R_Deltoid | you never go full gay |
| 15:56.45 | ProzaicMuze | Try tellin' that to california "divas" |
| 15:58.22 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 15:58.27 | P_R_Deltoid | they are the example that proves the point. |
| 15:58.30 | Constant_ | :O |
| 15:58.31 | ProzaicMuze | cheers! |
| 15:58.35 | P_R_Deltoid | You never go full gay (or you end up like them) |
| 15:59.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster Galois-evariste (~wandererr@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net) |
| 15:59.15 | ProzaicMuze | doh |
| 15:59.16 | molsterr | oh proz, you seem ike the man to ask on actors, seems like a good time to ask, got a super quick sec? |
| 15:59.20 | ProzaicMuze | Sure |
| 15:59.52 | Constant_ | guys, how do I make this trigger in another way so it doesnt lag the game? http://localhostr.com/files/deb181/capture.png |
| 16:00.09 | molsterr | its a two parter, on Text actors, when I try to send a msg to it VIA a trigger, it can only hold so many characters, do you know away to get around that? for exmaple, send it a string var? |
| 16:00.35 | ProzaicMuze | Have you changed the Max size? |
| 16:00.46 | P_R_Deltoid | Constant_, it lags the game...? |
| 16:00.51 | ProzaicMuze | On the Text Actor, it's set to [3,1] |
| 16:00.52 | Constant_ | yea |
| 16:00.53 | Galois-evariste | constant are you joking? |
| 16:00.58 | P_R_Deltoid | How many units trigger it? |
| 16:01.06 | Constant_ | 5 in each region |
| 16:01.11 | molsterr | I mean like this |
| 16:01.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster Karn (54fadf79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.250.223.121) |
| 16:01.15 | P_R_Deltoid | That... shouldn't lag at all |
| 16:01.16 | P_R_Deltoid | but |
| 16:01.18 | P_R_Deltoid | even then |
| 16:01.32 | Galois-evariste | assuming that it actually does lag the game somehow - you can try putting a big "or" statement around all of that (which is probably redundant, though) |
| 16:01.42 | Galois-evariste | you can also try making triggers for each one of those events |
| 16:01.45 | P_R_Deltoid | You should convert currentWaveLifeMultiplyer once |
| 16:01.47 | P_R_Deltoid | not every time |
| 16:01.49 | P_R_Deltoid | that'd help |
| 16:01.53 | Galois-evariste | or divdiing them up into different triggers somehow |
| 16:01.54 | P_R_Deltoid | like, do it in some other event |
| 16:02.04 | P_R_Deltoid | Not exactly sure how you have it set up, and even then, it shouldn't lag with just that |
| 16:02.21 | P_R_Deltoid | is this something that creates waves? |
| 16:02.22 | molsterr | VIA a trigger, i want to send it the "Set text: msg |<IMG path="Assets\Textures\btn-ability-terran-snipe.dds" height="28" width="28"/>| however, the editbox in the editor will only hold |<IMG path="Assets\Textures\btn-ability-| |
| 16:02.32 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid yes |
| 16:02.41 | P_R_Deltoid | You do realize units craeted ina region arn |
| 16:02.45 | P_R_Deltoid | 't considered to be "entering" it |
| 16:02.49 | P_R_Deltoid | I don't... think |
| 16:02.53 | Constant_ | it works though |
| 16:02.56 | Constant_ | just lags alot |
| 16:02.57 | P_R_Deltoid | welll |
| 16:03.00 | P_R_Deltoid | weird |
| 16:03.02 | P_R_Deltoid | still shouldn't lag |
| 16:03.09 | Galois-evariste | consatnt |
| 16:03.10 | P_R_Deltoid | you are sure it's THAT trigge rdoing the lag? |
| 16:03.11 | Constant_ | also lags when i order them to move |
| 16:03.14 | Galois-evariste | is it really necessary to have it be "any unit"? |
| 16:03.23 | P_R_Deltoid | Not seeing why |
| 16:03.24 | Constant_ | yes i debugged it |
| 16:03.32 | Galois-evariste | so you can't narrow it down at all? |
| 16:03.47 | molsterr | I have solved this by simply haven that as the defualt text of the actor and just hiding it, but a "real" solution would be nice. |
| 16:03.47 | Constant_ | well i want to change all units that spawn gaois.. |
| 16:03.52 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 action triggers like that should never "lag" the game |
| 16:03.59 | P_R_Deltoid | gaois? |
| 16:04.02 | Galois-evariste | oh wait |
| 16:04.03 | Galois-evariste | y |
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| 16:04.06 | Galois-evariste | so units are not walking up into here |
| 16:04.09 | Galois-evariste | but rather they are spawning here? |
| 16:04.16 | Galois-evariste | that changes my suggestions earlier |
| 16:04.27 | Galois-evariste | those are regions |
| 16:04.27 | ProzaicMuze | @Molsterr - when are you wantign this text actor to show up? And is it s'posed to be something else before changing to the Bullseye? |
| 16:04.29 | Galois-evariste | if you want spawning points |
| 16:04.32 | Galois-evariste | make them actual points instead |
| 16:04.50 | Galois-evariste | if you do that though you'll have to rephrase the event |
| 16:04.55 | Galois-evariste | instead of saying "unit enters region" |
| 16:04.59 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid: its 18x5 zerglings every 30 sec |
| 16:05.05 | Galois-evariste | that's a lot |
| 16:05.24 | Galois-evariste | why can't you have the zerglings have that maximum life by default? |
| 16:05.35 | Galois-evariste | if you do that then this entire trigger won't be necessary |
| 16:05.38 | Constant_ | because i want to add hp depending on the wave Galois.. |
| 16:05.51 | Constant_ | many tds do that |
| 16:06.01 | Galois-evariste | do the units automatically heal when they're alive? |
| 16:06.29 | molsterr | Right now the defualt is <IMG path="Assets\Textures\btn-ability-terran-snipe.dds" height="28" width="28"/>, and its just hidden, (activate it via a msg) however, when I first tried this, default was blank. the problem isnt the actor itself |
| 16:06.32 | Constant_ | doesnt matter, the trigger works fine, the problem is the lag |
| 16:06.37 | Galois-evariste | right |
| 16:06.41 | Galois-evariste | so if you want to reduce the lag |
| 16:06.44 | Galois-evariste | you need to write it a different way |
| 16:06.49 | Galois-evariste | that means make it shorter |
| 16:06.51 | molsterr | it seems just to be a limitation in the editbox of the "send msg: trigger |
| 16:06.54 | Galois-evariste | so you need to rethink how you're doing this |
| 16:06.58 | Galois-evariste | if you want to reduce the lag |
| 16:07.00 | P_R_Deltoid | You keep saying Galois. |
| 16:07.07 | Galois-evariste | and that involves rethinking the point of the trigger |
| 16:07.07 | P_R_Deltoid | I assume you mean difficulty |
| 16:07.11 | P_R_Deltoid | or, wave number |
| 16:07.11 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid yes he is here trying to help me |
| 16:07.17 | P_R_Deltoid | OHHH |
| 16:07.18 | Galois-evariste | if its not really necessary, you can get rid of all of the lag its giving you |
| 16:07.20 | P_R_Deltoid | oh yes |
| 16:07.23 | P_R_Deltoid | nevermind! |
| 16:07.25 | Galois-evariste | which is the best case scenario |
| 16:07.33 | Galois-evariste | so |
| 16:07.43 | ProzaicMuze | @Molsterr - I'm asking WHEN you want the bullseye to show up. Since you might be able to eschew the trigger and do it in the Actor's Events |
| 16:07.52 | Galois-evariste | set the maximum life to the maximum possible result of that formula there for the zerglings |
| 16:07.58 | Galois-evariste | disable the natural zegling heal |
| 16:08.03 | Galois-evariste | which is one of its behaviors i think |
| 16:08.07 | ProzaicMuze | But if you're just wanting to do it with Triggers, I can't help much as I dont' know triggers at all. That being said, I wouldn't know why it limits the actor message size :( |
| 16:08.09 | Galois-evariste | don't quote me on that part |
| 16:08.23 | Galois-evariste | then at the beginning of each wave |
| 16:08.28 | Galois-evariste | set the starting health |
| 16:08.30 | ProzaicMuze | Zergling heal is not a behavior, it's the Unit's stats |
| 16:08.34 | Galois-evariste | for the unit type: zergling |
| 16:08.37 | Galois-evariste | to be that formula |
| 16:08.48 | Galois-evariste | that way it won't be necessary to change the maximum life everywhere |
| 16:08.55 | Galois-evariste | and you can reduce all of this bullshit to just one trigger per wave |
| 16:08.58 | Galois-evariste | bam |
| 16:09.00 | molsterr | That is how I have it set up right now, Everything is working how I want it, ( its all done via actor/events/beheaviours) I was just hoping if I wanted to change it via a script on the game, id have the information at hand, thank you tho =) |
| 16:09.10 | Galois-evariste | you're fucjking welcome mister "ur dumb because you can't say yes or fucking no" |
| 16:09.13 | molsterr | and yeah, I cant understand why the text limittion is there. its driving me nuts. |
| 16:09.24 | Galois-evariste | afk i deserve a drink |
| 16:09.29 | Constant_ | Galois sorry you didnt help at all |
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| 16:09.56 | jorgenpt | Hey guys. |
| 16:10.26 | Galois-evariste | my dick i didn't help |
| 16:10.32 | molsterr | anyway, lunch time, FYI: your beam tut is top notch proz, your an assist to the community |
| 16:10.41 | Galois-evariste | i just told you how to reduce this trigger to one per wave |
| 16:10.57 | Galois-evariste | if that doesn't help i suggest you get better at english |
| 16:11.02 | Constant_ | yes, by doing it everytime I spawn a zergling right? |
| 16:11.09 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 16:11.21 | ProzaicMuze | Galois, if only you could hear me so I could insult you to my heart's content. . . |
| 16:11.26 | ProzaicMuze | I'd have so much fun with that |
| 16:11.32 | SweetZombieJesus | ProzaicMuze can you help me understand this Set Rotation event on an actor? |
| 16:11.33 | ProzaicMuze | and eat somethin' good Molsterr ;) |
| 16:11.44 | ProzaicMuze | Glad I could help :D |
| 16:11.48 | SweetZombieJesus | I'm trying to make a model that faces upward by default, face forward |
| 16:11.55 | SweetZombieJesus | (trigger only) |
| 16:11.55 | Galois-evariste | someone's not reading |
| 16:12.14 | Galois-evariste | i say one trigger per wave and you read "every time you spawn a zergling" |
| 16:12.14 | ProzaicMuze | So you want to use triggers to send actor messages to rotate an actor? |
| 16:12.16 | Galois-evariste | how ridiculous |
| 16:12.19 | ProzaicMuze | And you watn to do it with Set Rotation? |
| 16:12.24 | SweetZombieJesus | yes |
| 16:12.28 | P_R_Deltoid | Constant_, the problem could be other places on your map, you realize? |
| 16:12.33 | SweetZombieJesus | so i got this here |
| 16:12.34 | SweetZombieJesus | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.41 | ProzaicMuze | Can you give me some context? Since that particular Actor Event might not be the one you need. |
| 16:12.43 | Constant_ | what do you mean P_R_Deltoid? |
| 16:12.44 | SweetZombieJesus | but it doesnt seem to do anything to the actor |
| 16:12.49 | P_R_Deltoid | Constant_, the actual spawning part. |
| 16:12.51 | P_R_Deltoid | etc |
| 16:12.59 | P_R_Deltoid | how ar eyou certain that this it the part that hangs? |
| 16:13.07 | SweetZombieJesus | its an Actor model |
| 16:13.09 | P_R_Deltoid | You use the "Average Runtime in Ms" on the debug menu |
| 16:13.10 | P_R_Deltoid | ? |
| 16:13.11 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid, I have debugged by disabling triggers one at a time |
| 16:13.16 | P_R_Deltoid | aw, okay |
| 16:13.22 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 16:13.24 | P_R_Deltoid | that doesn't make much sens |
| 16:13.25 | P_R_Deltoid | e |
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| 16:13.36 | P_R_Deltoid | because you have to have 2 triggers on at once to make it work |
| 16:13.38 | P_R_Deltoid | to test it, I mean |
| 16:13.43 | P_R_Deltoid | you can never just have that trigger you posted on |
| 16:13.44 | ProzaicMuze | lol I got that part, SWJ. . . I meant what is happening in the game that should cause the unit to rotate? |
| 16:13.53 | P_R_Deltoid | so it could be a compound problem caused by more than 1 trigger |
| 16:13.58 | Constant_ | well i did like this: first i enabled only spawning the zerglings |
| 16:14.01 | SweetZombieJesus | ah well the unit is created, then right afterward it is rotated |
| 16:14.05 | SweetZombieJesus | the actor is created* |
| 16:14.07 | Constant_ | then i enabled setting the health - then it lagged |
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| 16:14.19 | Holden__ | Yo is sixen here? |
| 16:14.27 | SweetZombieJesus | just a one time thing |
| 16:14.38 | Galois-evariste | my irc client says that she's away holden |
| 16:14.38 | Constant_ | then i disabled setting the health - and enabled ordering the zerglings to move - and then it lagged too, then i enabled both and it lags double much |
| 16:14.44 | Galois-evariste | but sixen likes to keep afk mode on |
| 16:14.46 | Holden__ | ok. |
| 16:14.50 | ProzaicMuze | After being rotated, does it need to be able to move and change rotation? |
| 16:14.51 | Holden__ | o.O |
| 16:14.56 | SweetZombieJesus | no |
| 16:15.04 | ProzaicMuze | Is it a building? |
| 16:15.06 | P_R_Deltoid | But in all those examples, you also have the spawn zergling trigger on |
| 16:15.16 | P_R_Deltoid | Constant_, would you be willing to send me the map so I could lookat it? |
| 16:15.24 | SweetZombieJesus | its a model |
| 16:15.29 | SweetZombieJesus | Create Model At Point action |
| 16:15.36 | SweetZombieJesus | in this case ShapeX |
| 16:15.36 | ProzaicMuze | Well yeah, but is it a model of a building? or what? |
| 16:15.41 | Holden__ | Has anyone been able to play RAD on US? |
| 16:15.43 | SweetZombieJesus | so not doodad |
| 16:15.48 | ProzaicMuze | Ahh, so like an X marks the spot type deal? |
| 16:16.08 | SweetZombieJesus | well its to show a unit is not available |
| 16:16.15 | ProzaicMuze | mmk |
| 16:16.16 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid, I prefer not to, but do you mean the spawner would only lag if another trigger is on? doesnt make sense to me |
| 16:16.17 | SweetZombieJesus | by showing a giant X between the unit and camera |
| 16:16.41 | ProzaicMuze | If that's the case, you can use a SOp instead of a trigger |
| 16:16.43 | SweetZombieJesus | i create the model, set rotation, set tint, set scale, set opacity, make it face camera, set to variable |
| 16:16.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Constant_, well, that you arn't testing it very well. It could be caused by the spawning PLUS the other triggers |
| 16:16.48 | SweetZombieJesus | all that works except rotation |
| 16:16.49 | ProzaicMuze | Site Operation (Explicit Rotation) |
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| 16:16.53 | P_R_Deltoid | and I can't really help if you don't, but I understand why you'd be distrusting |
| 16:16.59 | P_R_Deltoid | considering the climate of WC3 custom maps |
| 16:17.01 | SweetZombieJesus | ok but i cant use site ops |
| 16:17.06 | SweetZombieJesus | cause its a trigger library |
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| 16:17.14 | SweetZombieJesus | or i would have done this ages ago :P |
| 16:17.27 | SweetZombieJesus | but now i found the Send Message (Set Rotation 3D) |
| 16:17.30 | SweetZombieJesus | i figured i can do it like this |
| 16:17.35 | ProzaicMuze | What about a trigger library prevents the use of SiteOps? (no idea what it is lol)_ |
| 16:17.40 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid, http://localhostr.com/files/0ad89f/capture.png |
| 16:17.49 | SweetZombieJesus | well if i export the library |
| 16:17.55 | SweetZombieJesus | the site ops isnt exported with it |
| 16:18.06 | ProzaicMuze | Ah |
| 16:18.10 | RedWraith | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 16:18.11 | purl | tehwildcard <~Jer@pool-96-252-135-143.tampfl.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 15h 51m 33s ago, saying: 'I want a cyber session all night'. |
| 16:18.11 | P_R_Deltoid | I dunno what these triggers are, Constant_ |
| 16:18.17 | ProzaicMuze | You can create a Site Op actor with triggers, right? |
| 16:18.19 | RedWraith | hey guys |
| 16:18.23 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid, spawner is initWave and restOfWaves |
| 16:18.29 | RedWraith | maybe... |
| 16:18.33 | P_R_Deltoid | Rest of Waves is what is lagging |
| 16:18.35 | P_R_Deltoid | apparently |
| 16:18.36 | SweetZombieJesus | maybe but i dont know how and havent tried yet :P |
| 16:18.38 | SweetZombieJesus | didnt think about that |
| 16:18.41 | ProzaicMuze | Hrm |
| 16:18.46 | ProzaicMuze | Well if the Rotate 3D doesn't work |
| 16:18.48 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid, I'll make a test without editHealth on then |
| 16:18.52 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 16:18.54 | P_R_Deltoid | just look at it |
| 16:18.57 | SweetZombieJesus | maybe it does work but my values are wrong |
| 16:18.58 | ProzaicMuze | You could make a Site Op actor with the Explicit Rotation you need |
| 16:19.01 | P_R_Deltoid | edit health takes .023 ms per fire |
| 16:19.03 | P_R_Deltoid | fired 1093 times |
| 16:19.07 | P_R_Deltoid | 25ms total |
| 16:19.11 | SweetZombieJesus | so what values should i put in there to see a definete change? |
| 16:19.14 | P_R_Deltoid | whereas one fire of restOfWaves is 43ms |
| 16:19.15 | ProzaicMuze | And then use an actor message to hook the SOp to it |
| 16:19.23 | P_R_Deltoid | nearly double what the total ms of the edit health function |
| 16:19.28 | ProzaicMuze | Gimme a sec, I need to make an actor and fiddle with it to let you know |
| 16:19.30 | P_R_Deltoid | and done 12 times, totalling 500ms |
| 16:19.34 | P_R_Deltoid | which is... |
| 16:19.38 | ProzaicMuze | I rarely use the Set Rotation events because of SOps |
| 16:19.42 | P_R_Deltoid | like 20 times more than the total of Edit Health? |
| 16:19.51 | SweetZombieJesus | but how do i make a site ops with a trigger |
| 16:20.08 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid, Here is with just the waves on, not editHealth: http://localhostr.com/files/b3f536/capture.png |
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| 16:20.40 | ProzaicMuze | SWJ, I have no clue lol |
| 16:20.45 | ProzaicMuze | I'm just tossin' ideas out there |
| 16:20.48 | P_R_Deltoid | Intereesting, rest of waves got less laggy |
| 16:20.50 | SweetZombieJesus | theres nothing when i search for site |
| 16:20.55 | P_R_Deltoid | but yeah |
| 16:21.06 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid, ok so editHealth increases spawners by 30ms AVG |
| 16:21.14 | Constant_ | how come? >< |
| 16:21.15 | P_R_Deltoid | indeed |
| 16:21.19 | P_R_Deltoid | Because you are doing it wrong |
| 16:21.21 | P_R_Deltoid | :P |
| 16:21.27 | SweetZombieJesus | but i read on the forums that a flag 'Is Local' needs to be enabled in order for rotation to work |
| 16:21.35 | SweetZombieJesus | but im not sure how i can set that flag with triggers |
| 16:22.05 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid, This is how my spawner looks like: http://localhostr.com/files/dbd4da/capture.png |
| 16:22.27 | P_R_Deltoid | man |
| 16:22.29 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 16:22.36 | P_R_Deltoid | Why is there a Wait there.. |
| 16:22.38 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah |
| 16:22.40 | P_R_Deltoid | it's the Wait, dude |
| 16:22.47 | P_R_Deltoid | Why is there a Wait there |
| 16:22.57 | Constant_ | I dont want them all to spawn at the same time |
| 16:23.01 | P_R_Deltoid | Why not? |
| 16:23.06 | ProzaicMuze | Hrm |
| 16:23.06 | Constant_ | i want like a train |
| 16:23.10 | Galois-evariste | oh my god constant |
| 16:23.11 | ProzaicMuze | so what is the message you're sending again? |
| 16:23.14 | Galois-evariste | dude what are you doing |
| 16:23.20 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 16:23.22 | SweetZombieJesus | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.23 | P_R_Deltoid | is this a TD? |
| 16:23.30 | Constant_ | otherwise they clunch up and make a blockade |
| 16:23.32 | P_R_Deltoid | how about this |
| 16:23.33 | Constant_ | yes Deltoid |
| 16:23.45 | P_R_Deltoid | Isn't there like... a TD template |
| 16:23.46 | P_R_Deltoid | ? |
| 16:23.47 | Galois-evariste | repeating the same trigger over and over while changing one thing should set off an alarm in your head |
| 16:23.50 | Galois-evariste | you can easily simplify that |
| 16:23.57 | Galois-evariste | you're breaking my heart |
| 16:24.01 | Unrea1 | Vailreth u dar |
| 16:24.04 | P_R_Deltoid | okay, how about this |
| 16:24.06 | P_R_Deltoid | for testing purposes |
| 16:24.09 | P_R_Deltoid | put edit health back on |
| 16:24.13 | Galois-evariste | all that trolling earlier made me think you actually knew what you were doing |
| 16:24.13 | P_R_Deltoid | and disable the Wait command |
| 16:24.18 | P_R_Deltoid | just to see if it is causing problems |
| 16:24.27 | P_R_Deltoid | then post the debug times again |
| 16:24.29 | Constant_ | ok |
| 16:24.34 | ProzaicMuze | Well, i think I know what your problem is SWJ |
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| 16:24.42 | Galois-evariste | sigh |
| 16:24.42 | P_R_Deltoid | YOU DID IT WRONG |
| 16:24.44 | ProzaicMuze | WhenI went to mess with the Set Rotation event, it's just an empty field. |
| 16:24.45 | P_R_Deltoid | that is what your problem is |
| 16:24.47 | Galois-evariste | i can't bear to see him talk |
| 16:24.48 | P_R_Deltoid | hope this helps! |
| 16:24.58 | SweetZombieJesus | what empty field? |
| 16:25.04 | Constant_ | wtf? :P |
| 16:25.14 | ProzaicMuze | Just says "Rotation:" |
| 16:25.22 | Komodo1138 | Hey Galois-evariste , hows your third person shooter coming? |
| 16:25.23 | ProzaicMuze | And I haven't managed to enter an accepted value yet |
| 16:25.26 | SweetZombieJesus | ah yea |
| 16:25.27 | SweetZombieJesus | but |
| 16:25.29 | Galois-evariste | i'm glad you asked komodo |
| 16:25.32 | SweetZombieJesus | do send message |
| 16:25.33 | Galois-evariste | i've actually been waiting to show you! |
| 16:25.35 | SweetZombieJesus | and go to function |
| 16:25.37 | Galois-evariste | want to test it with me? |
| 16:25.39 | SweetZombieJesus | youll see a nice list |
| 16:25.42 | Galois-evariste | i think you're going to be very surprised |
| 16:25.50 | Galois-evariste | its almost 1MB in size now |
| 16:25.51 | Komodo1138 | sure. let me save a couple things. and i will open SC2 |
| 16:25.52 | ProzaicMuze | lol, I'll have to dig through the triggers to find it :S |
| 16:25.54 | Galois-evariste | from all of the triggers and shit |
| 16:25.54 | ProzaicMuze | Gimme a sec |
| 16:26.03 | Galois-evariste | like 932kb to be exact |
| 16:26.14 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid, It's the same thing |
| 16:26.15 | SweetZombieJesus | where you get Rotation:, instead go to functions |
| 16:26.17 | Galois-evariste | i'll copy paste the player triggers to let you in on this |
| 16:26.19 | Komodo1138 | damn |
| 16:26.22 | P_R_Deltoid | Exact same? |
| 16:26.25 | P_R_Deltoid | Without the way command? |
| 16:26.36 | Galois-evariste | i've been on a mapping spree for the map ever since you last tested it with me |
| 16:26.58 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid, yup |
| 16:27.07 | P_R_Deltoid | Well, one way that might change the speed, for better or worse, is not using Enters Region, but instead Pick Units from Unit Group "Last Created Units" |
| 16:27.13 | Komodo1138 | cool. i have been messing around with importing models. i got the millenium falcon ingame. just got to texture it |
| 16:27.21 | P_R_Deltoid | did this for a similar map |
| 16:27.24 | P_R_Deltoid | and it didn't lag |
| 16:27.28 | P_R_Deltoid | but it was smaller numbers |
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| 16:27.47 | ProzaicMuze | lmao I found it, but it gives no clue as to what each of the values are :S |
| 16:27.58 | P_R_Deltoid | Is that the Star Trek ship, Komodo1138 ? |
| 16:27.59 | ProzaicMuze | I'm going to assume the -1 is the facing though |
| 16:28.02 | SweetZombieJesus | its Forward XYZ, Up XYZ |
| 16:28.02 | Clord | I show soon something cool |
| 16:28.04 | P_R_Deltoid | err |
| 16:28.05 | P_R_Deltoid | Star Wars |
| 16:28.06 | P_R_Deltoid | doh |
| 16:28.08 | Komodo1138 | no its from Star Wars |
| 16:28.10 | P_R_Deltoid | Nevermind, ignore me |
| 16:28.11 | SweetZombieJesus | it says in the hint text |
| 16:28.14 | P_R_Deltoid | Dunno how I forgot that |
| 16:28.27 | ProzaicMuze | Where do I find this hint text? |
| 16:28.30 | ProzaicMuze | Ooooh, I see |
| 16:28.34 | Clord | http://www.xfire.com/profile/clord/screenshots/?view#102680912 |
| 16:28.39 | ProzaicMuze | mmk |
| 16:28.39 | Komodo1138 | just for that you have to go watch Star Wars now :P |
| 16:28.49 | Clord | :) |
| 16:28.57 | P_R_Deltoid | Constant_, http://pastebin.com/z0iSURKj |
| 16:29.00 | P_R_Deltoid | something like that |
| 16:29.10 | P_R_Deltoid | instead of another trigger to change life when entering region |
| 16:29.12 | P_R_Deltoid | may work better |
| 16:29.13 | Komodo1138 | Galois-evariste: ready when you are |
| 16:29.21 | Galois-evariste | right on i'm publishing now |
| 16:29.25 | Komodo1138 | ok |
| 16:29.26 | ProzaicMuze | SWJ, what direction are you wanting it to change to? |
| 16:29.26 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid, thx ill try it |
| 16:29.31 | P_R_Deltoid | Komodo1138, hey man, I did realize it before you reminded me :p |
| 16:29.32 | SweetZombieJesus | forward |
| 16:29.35 | SweetZombieJesus | it looks up now |
| 16:29.49 | Komodo1138 | P_R_Deltoid: lol :P |
| 16:29.54 | SweetZombieJesus | anyway a 90 degrees Z turn i think |
| 16:29.58 | Clord | full graphic cards incoming to THE Card Game ^^ |
| 16:30.00 | Unrea1 | Variable - Set Power = (Integer(((Triggering unit) Life (Current)))) <--- Can some translate that to english |
| 16:30.03 | Galois-evariste | oh shit |
| 16:30.06 | Galois-evariste | i haven't checked in a while |
| 16:30.08 | Galois-evariste | my map is now 1.2 MB |
| 16:30.10 | Galois-evariste | in file size |
| 16:30.12 | Unrea1 | someone* |
| 16:30.16 | Galois-evariste | i am a fucking monster |
| 16:30.18 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 16:30.21 | Clord | my map will probably take more :) |
| 16:30.27 | P_R_Deltoid | Set Power To the Trigger Units Current Life? |
| 16:30.28 | Clord | these card images gonna tax |
| 16:30.30 | SweetZombieJesus | compressed? :D |
| 16:30.33 | P_R_Deltoid | It just has to be converted to int |
| 16:30.34 | ProzaicMuze | So rather than laying flat on the ground, you want to lift it up? |
| 16:30.34 | Galois-evariste | OH YEAH?! |
| 16:30.39 | Otixa | wut |
| 16:30.41 | Galois-evariste | well my penis is still bigger |
| 16:30.43 | P_R_Deltoid | hence hte "Integer(stuffhere)" part. |
| 16:30.51 | SweetZombieJesus | yea so it stands on its 'legs' kinda |
| 16:30.56 | Galois-evariste | oh shit |
| 16:30.57 | SweetZombieJesus | if you assume the X has legs :P |
| 16:30.57 | Galois-evariste | i just published it |
| 16:31.01 | Galois-evariste | and forgot to enable the second player |
| 16:31.02 | Unrea1 | So its a condition? |
| 16:31.04 | Galois-evariste | facepalm |
| 16:31.05 | P_R_Deltoid | No |
| 16:31.05 | Galois-evariste | just a minute |
| 16:31.08 | P_R_Deltoid | It sets a variable |
| 16:31.14 | P_R_Deltoid | it isn't comparing |
| 16:31.15 | Otixa | So what are you fags up to? ;p |
| 16:31.18 | Galois-evariste | i was just so excited to have someone to show it to again |
| 16:31.19 | Clord | http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/831/uniquenova.jpg |
| 16:31.20 | Galois-evariste | otixa |
| 16:31.20 | P_R_Deltoid | comparisons are done with two comparison symbols |
| 16:31.23 | P_R_Deltoid | so equals would "==" |
| 16:31.25 | Galois-evariste | you wanna see my map? |
| 16:31.28 | Galois-evariste | i can stream it for you |
| 16:31.32 | Otixa | notrly |
| 16:31.33 | P_R_Deltoid | greater than or equal to ">=" |
| 16:31.33 | Unrea1 | So how could i set it up |
| 16:31.38 | P_R_Deltoid | set it up? |
| 16:31.40 | Galois-evariste | you'll hve to unzip your pants before watching though |
| 16:31.40 | P_R_Deltoid | Set what up? |
| 16:31.41 | ProzaicMuze | Try: (0, 0, -1 ... 0, 0, 1) |
| 16:31.44 | Galois-evariste | because you'll have an urge to masturbate |
| 16:31.46 | Unrea1 | Create it |
| 16:31.50 | P_R_Deltoid | Create... what |
| 16:31.51 | Unrea1 | Make it |
| 16:31.53 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh |
| 16:31.53 | ProzaicMuze | This should make it "face" into the ground |
| 16:31.55 | P_R_Deltoid | In your game? |
| 16:31.57 | ProzaicMuze | Which should lift it up |
| 16:31.57 | Unrea1 | Yes |
| 16:32.03 | P_R_Deltoid | New Action: Set Variable |
| 16:32.07 | Clord | thank you imageconverter plus |
| 16:32.08 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:32.15 | Clord | DDS mass converint no time |
| 16:32.20 | P_R_Deltoid | Variable 1 (On the left side of the equals): Set it to an Integer variable |
| 16:32.21 | SweetZombieJesus | nothing :( |
| 16:32.23 | P_R_Deltoid | Called "Power" perhaps |
| 16:32.35 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 16:32.37 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec |
| 16:32.45 | Otixa | So like, my 2v2 ladder partner sucks |
| 16:32.53 | P_R_Deltoid | Otixa, what rank |
| 16:32.59 | Otixa | We agreed that we'll spend time with our gfs until 19:00 |
| 16:33.02 | P_R_Deltoid | Unrea1, anyways, convert to Integer |
| 16:33.03 | Otixa | And he's still gone >:[ |
| 16:33.08 | Unrea1 | k |
| 16:33.09 | Otixa | P_R_Deltoid, silver 7 |
| 16:33.09 | P_R_Deltoid | and the variable inside that convert function should be |
| 16:33.11 | Otixa | :P |
| 16:33.17 | P_R_Deltoid | Unit Property |
| 16:33.24 | P_R_Deltoid | and change the property to "Life (Current)" |
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| 16:33.26 | P_R_Deltoid | and there you go! |
| 16:34.02 | Unrea1 | Instead of Life |
| 16:34.03 | Galois-evariste | okay komodo |
| 16:34.05 | Galois-evariste | lets do it |
| 16:34.07 | ProzaicMuze | Well, SWJ, if that didn't do anything, then I don't think that actor message is what yeh need. |
| 16:34.07 | SweetZombieJesus | did it work in your game ProzaicMuze ? |
| 16:34.10 | ProzaicMuze | And no |
| 16:34.11 | Unrea1 | How could i change it to current minerals |
| 16:34.15 | ProzaicMuze | I still can't get it to work through actor events |
| 16:34.17 | P_R_Deltoid | Player property |
| 16:34.18 | P_R_Deltoid | OKay |
| 16:34.19 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec |
| 16:34.19 | SweetZombieJesus | ok well there are some other options |
| 16:34.20 | ProzaicMuze | It doesn't accept any of the values I can think of |
| 16:34.24 | SweetZombieJesus | like Set Bearings |
| 16:34.25 | Otixa | guys |
| 16:34.25 | Otixa | guys |
| 16:34.30 | Otixa | What's the issue? |
| 16:34.31 | SweetZombieJesus | which is positon and rotation |
| 16:34.34 | Otixa | Maybe I can help :D |
| 16:34.41 | SweetZombieJesus | but i cant get that one to work at all |
| 16:34.42 | P_R_Deltoid | Okay, Unrea1 |
| 16:34.47 | P_R_Deltoid | take out the Convert Real to Int part |
| 16:34.48 | SweetZombieJesus | just gives me an error when i set it to normal values |
| 16:34.53 | P_R_Deltoid | so it's just Set Power = nothing |
| 16:34.54 | Unrea1 | k |
| 16:35.00 | P_R_Deltoid | and then set that nothing to "Player Property" |
| 16:35.03 | P_R_Deltoid | should be Minerals by default |
| 16:35.05 | P_R_Deltoid | but if it isn't |
| 16:35.10 | P_R_Deltoid | change "Property" to Minerals. |
| 16:35.19 | ProzaicMuze | Hvae you tried Set Rotation From? |
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| 16:35.38 | SweetZombieJesus | no but it would just rotate towards me, but not on the z axis |
| 16:35.46 | Constant_ | P_R_Deltoid, I did what you said but this one isnt working for some reason? http://pastebin.com/x02HZ1jd |
| 16:36.19 | Otixa | SweetZombieJesus, what are you doing? >:[ |
| 16:36.26 | SweetZombieJesus | breaking stuff |
| 16:36.30 | P_R_Deltoid | again, you should probably do that conversion once per wave |
| 16:36.32 | P_R_Deltoid | instead of... |
| 16:36.36 | P_R_Deltoid | like 1000 times per wave |
| 16:36.40 | P_R_Deltoid | buttttt |
| 16:36.40 | ProzaicMuze | well. . . try this |
| 16:36.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Hmm |
| 16:36.46 | Constant_ | you mean the Convert integer to Real? |
| 16:36.48 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, I dunno why it wouldn't. |
| 16:36.52 | P_R_Deltoid | COnvert it elsewhere |
| 16:36.52 | P_R_Deltoid | once |
| 16:36.55 | ProzaicMuze | (0, -1, 0 ... 0, -1, 0) |
| 16:36.57 | Constant_ | ok sure |
| 16:36.59 | P_R_Deltoid | and then use that converted variable instead |
| 16:37.00 | P_R_Deltoid | but |
| 16:37.04 | P_R_Deltoid | that isn't the main problem, I don't think |
| 16:37.06 | ProzaicMuze | That changes it's axis to face forward rather than up |
| 16:37.15 | ProzaicMuze | Perhaps the Forward vector is screwy |
| 16:37.19 | Clord | now to monkey job |
| 16:37.26 | Clord | change every icon like image to new card images |
| 16:37.27 | Clord | XD |
| 16:37.29 | SweetZombieJesus | nothing =/ |
| 16:37.36 | SweetZombieJesus | the whole thing is screwy |
| 16:37.37 | Otixa | Code monkey like soda... |
| 16:37.39 | Otixa | nanana |
| 16:37.47 | P_R_Deltoid | code monkey get up get going |
| 16:37.54 | P_R_Deltoid | blblblb |
| 16:38.00 | P_R_Deltoid | Love that guy |
| 16:38.01 | Otixa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqTaqVi9J8k |
| 16:38.05 | Otixa | :D |
| 16:38.10 | ProzaicMuze | Gah |
| 16:38.13 | ProzaicMuze | This is why I hate triggers lol |
| 16:38.14 | Otixa | code monkey have boring meeting |
| 16:38.17 | P_R_Deltoid | Is that show still on g4? |
| 16:38.17 | Otixa | with boring manager rob |
| 16:38.19 | Otixa | :> |
| 16:38.19 | Clord | battle.net gonna get surprised |
| 16:38.24 | Clord | they don't expect complete card redesign |
| 16:38.25 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:38.30 | Otixa | P_R_Deltoid, don't think so :/ |
| 16:38.32 | P_R_Deltoid | hah |
| 16:38.33 | P_R_Deltoid | I liked it |
| 16:38.34 | P_R_Deltoid | I think |
| 16:38.40 | P_R_Deltoid | Haven't watched g4 in like 5 years |
| 16:38.42 | P_R_Deltoid | soooo |
| 16:38.50 | P_R_Deltoid | code monkey had to be asian |
| 16:38.52 | P_R_Deltoid | racism. |
| 16:38.58 | Otixa | xD |
| 16:39.00 | Galois-evariste | MY BAD komodo |
| 16:39.05 | SweetZombieJesus | funny ProzaicMuze , this is why i hate the data editor :P |
| 16:39.05 | Otixa | I'm a code monkey >:| |
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| 16:39.06 | Komodo1138 | no problem |
| 16:39.08 | Galois-evariste | i was too excited that i just copy pasted and didnt anything |
| 16:39.18 | Komodo1138 | from what i saw it looks cool :P |
| 16:39.19 | P_R_Deltoid | Are you Asian? |
| 16:39.23 | Otixa | No :< |
| 16:39.23 | P_R_Deltoid | Is that asian guy YOU? |
| 16:39.27 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 16:39.29 | P_R_Deltoid | nevermind then |
| 16:39.49 | Otixa | So yeh |
| 16:39.52 | Otixa | In other news |
| 16:39.58 | Otixa | There's a dent in my fence |
| 16:40.03 | Galois-evariste | yeah |
| 16:40.05 | P_R_Deltoid | impossible |
| 16:40.06 | Galois-evariste | but you didnt see much |
| 16:40.07 | RingBearer | Can functions return an array? |
| 16:40.10 | Galois-evariste | marines have sight radius 1 |
| 16:40.43 | P_R_Deltoid | can they ever! |
| 16:40.45 | ProzaicMuze | ouch |
| 16:40.45 | P_R_Deltoid | lets see |
| 16:40.53 | ProzaicMuze | don't talk about the Data Editor that way |
| 16:41.06 | P_R_Deltoid | RingBearer, yes you can |
| 16:41.07 | ProzaicMuze | It'll break down, run around in an emotional rage. .. |
| 16:41.08 | P_R_Deltoid | at least |
| 16:41.10 | P_R_Deltoid | it's a return type |
| 16:41.21 | SweetZombieJesus | oh please |
| 16:41.27 | RingBearer | Because I am using the "Return" action and it looks like it is trying to Return Result[0] |
| 16:41.28 | SweetZombieJesus | my data editor is already dead from starvation |
| 16:41.32 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 16:41.34 | ProzaicMuze | Poor DE :( |
| 16:41.38 | SweetZombieJesus | NO! |
| 16:41.42 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 16:41.43 | SweetZombieJesus | it got whats coming |
| 16:41.43 | P_R_Deltoid | actually |
| 16:41.45 | ProzaicMuze | But you should talk to Red about your trigger |
| 16:41.48 | P_R_Deltoid | doesn't look like it can, RingBearer |
| 16:41.54 | ProzaicMuze | Since I bet he could solve your trigger issue |
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| 16:41.56 | P_R_Deltoid | you can set the return type to accept arrays |
| 16:41.57 | P_R_Deltoid | but |
| 16:42.04 | P_R_Deltoid | the actual return function doesn't allow them |
| 16:42.04 | SweetZombieJesus | ok then |
| 16:42.09 | SweetZombieJesus | as in RedWraith ? |
| 16:42.12 | RingBearer | You lied to me :D |
| 16:42.17 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 16:42.19 | P_R_Deltoid | I said it accepts it |
| 16:42.19 | Clord | 11 cards converted to new grapical ones.. time to do save that I don't blow up if editor crash |
| 16:42.21 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:42.21 | P_R_Deltoid | :p |
| 16:42.24 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, I dunno |
| 16:42.26 | P_R_Deltoid | there still might be a way |
| 16:42.32 | RingBearer | Unit Group then |
| 16:42.37 | RingBearer | meh |
| 16:42.49 | Ulti_ | If I may interject - I've got about 5-6 models ready for import (.m3), but sadly their textures aren't showing up in the previewer. What small, stupid checkbox did I forget to tick? |
| 16:43.39 | SweetZombieJesus | my super awesome, ahem, workaround for not having an X is not creating a red transparent box around the unavailable unit |
| 16:43.41 | SweetZombieJesus | its alright i guess |
| 16:43.44 | SweetZombieJesus | but not as sexy |
| 16:43.56 | SweetZombieJesus | is creating* >_> |
| 16:45.21 | Otixa | Ulti_, are you using the SC2 shader? |
| 16:45.22 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, RedWraith |
| 16:45.29 | Otixa | Also, show models |
| 16:45.36 | Ulti_ | Using both the Sc2 Bitmap and Sc2 Shader types, yes |
| 16:45.43 | Otixa | Also, if they're not normal mapped I'm sending you back to murloc school |
| 16:45.58 | Otixa | Are you using DDS? |
| 16:46.11 | Ulti_ | mhm, though I have a feeling I screwed up the alpha somewhere |
| 16:46.27 | Otixa | afaik, needs to be 32bpc |
| 16:46.43 | Ulti_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.16 | SweetZombieJesus | ok well thanks for the help, i think you learned a lil something too! :P |
| 16:47.41 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah. . that triggers suck |
| 16:47.51 | SweetZombieJesus | rtiggers own |
| 16:47.52 | SweetZombieJesus | this one |
| 16:47.53 | SweetZombieJesus | does not |
| 16:48.00 | SweetZombieJesus | its like |
| 16:48.07 | SweetZombieJesus | data editor is all touch and feel |
| 16:48.12 | SweetZombieJesus | where trigger editor is cold logic |
| 16:48.15 | P_R_Deltoid | triggers own |
| 16:48.17 | P_R_Deltoid | go go triggers |
| 16:48.30 | P_R_Deltoid | hey, ProzaicMuze |
| 16:48.37 | SweetZombieJesus | triggers are just logical, understandable |
| 16:48.43 | P_R_Deltoid | is there a way to make a behavior that makes idle scvs target the nearest open mineral field? |
| 16:48.44 | SweetZombieJesus | data editor is just vague and random :P |
| 16:48.46 | P_R_Deltoid | actually |
| 16:48.48 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 16:48.50 | P_R_Deltoid | god damn |
| 16:48.55 | ProzaicMuze | Yes, PR, there is |
| 16:49.08 | P_R_Deltoid | well, I think I may not understand "OPen minerals" |
| 16:49.09 | P_R_Deltoid | Okay |
| 16:49.18 | P_R_Deltoid | the situation is that I want 4 scvs to mine from 4 nodes |
| 16:49.20 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 on each node |
| 16:49.23 | P_R_Deltoid | and when one dies |
| 16:49.25 | molsterr | back with pizza! |
| 16:49.28 | P_R_Deltoid | a command center needs to queue another one |
| 16:49.30 | ProzaicMuze | It's kinda complicated, but it's possible |
| 16:49.32 | P_R_Deltoid | and send it back to the OPEN mineral field |
| 16:49.34 | ProzaicMuze | With Triggers? |
| 16:49.36 | ProzaicMuze | Or just DE? |
| 16:49.36 | Ulti_ | Well while I'm editting the alphas, do the dds need to be in a special format or can I leave them in dxt 1? |
| 16:49.37 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 16:49.40 | P_R_Deltoid | at the moment it's triggers |
| 16:49.41 | P_R_Deltoid | but the problem is |
| 16:49.43 | P_R_Deltoid | if 2 die |
| 16:49.48 | P_R_Deltoid | then the 2nd one to pop out idles |
| 16:49.48 | Clord | ifnally... unique card graphics |
| 16:49.49 | Clord | XD |
| 16:49.52 | Clord | finally... |
| 16:50.01 | Clord | THE Card Game will look leet after this |
| 16:50.10 | Otixa | Ulti_, not sure, just try a bunch of different things until it works |
| 16:50.17 | Clord | why they don't just let me manually type path |
| 16:50.18 | Clord | for images |
| 16:50.20 | Ulti_ | Heh, fair enough |
| 16:50.20 | P_R_Deltoid | so I need something that runs parrelel |
| 16:50.21 | P_R_Deltoid | although |
| 16:50.24 | P_R_Deltoid | I just had an idea |
| 16:50.25 | Otixa | also, does the model actually load in the previewer? |
| 16:50.33 | Ulti_ | Oh yeah, anims too |
| 16:50.36 | Ulti_ | Just not the textures |
| 16:50.37 | Otixa | ah |
| 16:50.47 | Otixa | So prolly just the settings on the DDS then |
| 16:50.51 | Ulti_ | mhm |
| 16:50.58 | Otixa | and gief screenshots |
| 16:52.14 | Ulti_ | >_> Not until Morgana's got a texture |
| 16:52.37 | Otixa | ;/ |
| 16:52.45 | Otixa | Well, I'm off to rape the ladder |
| 16:52.47 | Otixa | bai gaiz o/ |
| 16:53.08 | ProzaicMuze | ewww. . . this SG1 episode was really bloody :S |
| 16:53.15 | P_R_Deltoid | good |
| 16:53.28 | P_R_Deltoid | is it the one where MNacGyver gets pined to a wall |
| 16:53.32 | P_R_Deltoid | and then infected with nanobots |
| 16:53.42 | P_R_Deltoid | for literally the entire episode |
| 16:53.47 | P_R_Deltoid | and it slowly eats his insides |
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| 16:56.18 | ProzaicMuze | Nah |
| 16:56.20 | ProzaicMuze | later on |
| 16:56.24 | ProzaicMuze | when Teal'c Rapes Arkad |
| 16:56.29 | ProzaicMuze | with many sharp objects |
| 16:56.35 | P_R_Deltoid | RAPE? |
| 16:56.38 | P_R_Deltoid | weird |
| 16:56.39 | ProzaicMuze | Indeed |
| 16:56.42 | P_R_Deltoid | didn't think SciFi would allow that |
| 16:56.51 | ProzaicMuze | But, did you figure out your behaviro with your idea? |
| 16:56.56 | ProzaicMuze | Or do you need some suggestions still? |
| 16:56.58 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 16:57.01 | P_R_Deltoid | I am trying to localize the triggers |
| 16:57.07 | P_R_Deltoid | we will see how it works |
| 16:58.07 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, this won't work in it's current state |
| 16:58.11 | P_R_Deltoid | too big of a gap in time |
| 16:58.29 | P_R_Deltoid | okay |
| 16:58.52 | P_R_Deltoid | so lets say I did want to go the DE route, would it be able to determine what is open? |
| 16:58.56 | P_R_Deltoid | ie has absolutely no scvs on it |
| 16:59.06 | P_R_Deltoid | or even running back/forth from it |
| 16:59.10 | P_R_Deltoid | or is that impossible? |
| 16:59.17 | Ulti_ | Ok....so it's not the alphas.... Still getting untextured models :( |
| 16:59.49 | ProzaicMuze | I think so |
| 17:00.04 | P_R_Deltoid | Get on it, but cone vision first! |
| 17:00.07 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 17:00.15 | molsterr | You could make the mineral field give itsef a beheaver when its not being used, and your IDLE SCVs will look for this beheaver via a search effect? not sure if thats what you want, just got the alst half of what your trying to do |
| 17:00.34 | ProzaicMuze | Just give teh Minerals a behavior with a timer |
| 17:00.51 | ProzaicMuze | set it to something longer than the total length of mining plus travel |
| 17:00.56 | ProzaicMuze | so let's say 15s |
| 17:01.14 | ProzaicMuze | After 15s, if it behavior isn't renewed (via an SCV mining) it issues a search area effect |
| 17:01.23 | ProzaicMuze | If there is an Idle SCV, it issues orders to mine it |
| 17:01.41 | ProzaicMuze | You would need to modify the Harvest Ability |
| 17:01.41 | P_R_Deltoid | damn, I'd have to do this twice then because the minerals are 2 different distances |
| 17:01.58 | ProzaicMuze | The new ability would apply a set |
| 17:02.19 | ProzaicMuze | One behavior on the Minerals (renews the searching buff), opne behavior on the SCV (prevents it from being targeted by mineral search) and then the Harvest Ability |
| 17:02.43 | P_R_Deltoid | gettin complicated |
| 17:03.08 | ProzaicMuze | Only sorta |
| 17:03.15 | P_R_Deltoid | doesn't this mean there could potentially be big gaps where an scv has died and the buff on the minerals is still around? |
| 17:03.26 | P_R_Deltoid | so the scv search turns up nothing for like 8 seconds and just sits around |
| 17:03.31 | molsterr | well |
| 17:03.34 | P_R_Deltoid | until the minerals are considered "open" |
| 17:03.36 | ProzaicMuze | You need to make 2 Behavior - Buffs, 2 Effect - Apply Behaviors, 1 Effect - Issue Order and 1 Validator |
| 17:03.38 | molsterr | how long does it take to make an scv? |
| 17:03.41 | ProzaicMuze | Oh and an Effect - Set |
| 17:03.45 | P_R_Deltoid | 16 seconds? |
| 17:03.47 | P_R_Deltoid | I think |
| 17:03.51 | molsterr | by thetime the scv is made.. the beheaviour would be gone |
| 17:04.01 | molsterr | so perfect timein |
| 17:04.05 | P_R_Deltoid | If the behavior is 15 seconds, which depends on the mining/travel time |
| 17:04.07 | P_R_Deltoid | but |
| 17:04.15 | P_R_Deltoid | it does seem like it would time in pretty well |
| 17:04.20 | ProzaicMuze | Aye |
| 17:04.22 | P_R_Deltoid | damn that is a lot fhist |
| 17:04.24 | P_R_Deltoid | shit |
| 17:04.26 | P_R_Deltoid | oh well |
| 17:04.31 | ProzaicMuze | That's hardly anythign lol |
| 17:04.35 | molsterr | OR |
| 17:04.36 | P_R_Deltoid | mannnn |
| 17:04.38 | P_R_Deltoid | I use the data editor like |
| 17:04.39 | ProzaicMuze | Most abilities I make have 20+ effects at a minimum |
| 17:04.40 | P_R_Deltoid | once in a blue moon |
| 17:04.48 | molsterr | wait proz..pr easy solution |
| 17:04.48 | P_R_Deltoid | pshaw, not the blizz ones |
| 17:04.57 | P_R_Deltoid | molsterr, all ears |
| 17:05.15 | ProzaicMuze | afk for a sec |
| 17:05.20 | molsterr | wel nvm nvm, it would work flawless with no delay, but just released it would need a unique buff for each field |
| 17:05.59 | molsterr | when a SCV mines, it gain a buff (unique to that field) the fied would seach for that buff, if it cant find it, it knows its scv pair is dead |
| 17:06.08 | molsterr | field |
| 17:06.17 | P_R_Deltoid | field = mineral field? |
| 17:06.21 | molsterr | but that would be a lot of buffs (yes) |
| 17:06.36 | P_R_Deltoid | I think that is what Prozaic was suggesting |
| 17:06.39 | P_R_Deltoid | kinda |
| 17:06.42 | P_R_Deltoid | I dunno |
| 17:06.48 | P_R_Deltoid | gonna try my hardest to make it work with triggers |
| 17:06.59 | P_R_Deltoid | because it shouldn't be too big of a problem with speed, it happens not very often |
| 17:07.00 | molsterr | what is your current trigger setup and problem> |
| 17:07.05 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 17:07.09 | molsterr | Triggers is more my thing anyway lol |
| 17:07.09 | P_R_Deltoid | I have one trigger for SCV DIES |
| 17:07.12 | P_R_Deltoid | to queue up another |
| 17:07.27 | P_R_Deltoid | and another trigger on Unit Creation of Type SCV, then send it to matching mineral patch |
| 17:07.29 | P_R_Deltoid | problem is |
| 17:07.42 | P_R_Deltoid | the variable I use to transfer what scv died to the second trigger, to tell it what patch to go to, is global |
| 17:07.45 | P_R_Deltoid | and if 2 scvs die |
| 17:07.53 | P_R_Deltoid | it overrights that variable before the first one comes out |
| 17:07.58 | P_R_Deltoid | so |
| 17:08.03 | molsterr | easy fix |
| 17:08.06 | P_R_Deltoid | oh? |
| 17:08.20 | Aussie123 | i just thought of a very unusual idea for a map |
| 17:08.24 | ProzaicMuze | back |
| 17:08.29 | Aussie123 | im not going to tell anyone tho |
| 17:08.32 | molsterr | youll want to make an array |
| 17:08.33 | P_R_Deltoid | Good plan |
| 17:08.38 | P_R_Deltoid | Array, got it |
| 17:08.45 | molsterr | then |
| 17:08.50 | ProzaicMuze | Just to explain my idea so you know what it is (as a backup) |
| 17:08.53 | molsterr | theres 2 ways you can go about doing this |
| 17:09.09 | molsterr | You could do the sloppy way |
| 17:09.14 | molsterr | make the aray size massive like 200 |
| 17:09.22 | ProzaicMuze | When an SCV mines, it applies a buff to the field AND itself. |
| 17:09.48 | P_R_Deltoid | @_@ |
| 17:09.51 | ProzaicMuze | If the buff runs out on the mineral field, THEN it searches for minerals ever X sec (periodically) |
| 17:10.06 | ProzaicMuze | A validator prevents it from finding SCVs with the buff (meanign they already have a patch) |
| 17:10.09 | molsterr | and another var called "Num of dead" you add 1 to it each time an scv dies, then you add the minieral field to that array at the index of :Num Of Dead: |
| 17:10.12 | molsterr | and you would be fine |
| 17:10.16 | molsterr | it would never overwright it |
| 17:10.22 | ProzaicMuze | Once an SCV is found, it is issured the order to harvest, which would apply the buff againa nd stop the searching |
| 17:10.31 | molsterr | its a super simply fix... just that method is a little sloppy cuase of the big array size |
| 17:10.35 | molsterr | but it would work 100% |
| 17:10.42 | ProzaicMuze | (Hopefully that makes sense, but it's a good backup if you can't get your triggers workin' how you want) |
| 17:11.28 | molsterr | Understand what I mean? or should I explain it better. |
| 17:11.44 | molsterr | cuase that would fix your problem in less than 2 mins |
| 17:11.54 | P_R_Deltoid | molsterr, there are only 4 scvs ever, why does the array need to be so big? |
| 17:12.18 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, if push comes to shove, I'll just ask you if I get stuck while making it |
| 17:12.33 | molsterr | becuase theres two options, the easy fast way, you just keeping adding to the end of he array |
| 17:13.08 | ProzaicMuze | lol mmk |
| 17:13.18 | molsterr | if you dont do it thatway, you then have to keep "Cleaning" the array to not reused a used index |
| 17:13.40 | molsterr | Ill brb, ill script it in and paste it for you, im 100% sure it will work |
| 17:14.21 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 17:14.32 | P_R_Deltoid | I think I might have a solution that is a bit more elegant from how I was doing it before |
| 17:14.33 | P_R_Deltoid | but sure |
| 17:14.42 | molsterr | whats your solution? |
| 17:14.52 | molsterr | I was going to make it more elgant as well |
| 17:14.55 | molsterr | =P |
| 17:14.56 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 17:14.59 | P_R_Deltoid | it might not work |
| 17:15.05 | P_R_Deltoid | I see a slight problem, for some reason... |
| 17:15.05 | molsterr | I was just throwin out a quick sure fix fory ou with the massive array size |
| 17:15.09 | P_R_Deltoid | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.14 | P_R_Deltoid | this isn't working more than once |
| 17:15.35 | molsterr | does it ave something to do with "after exisiting orders" |
| 17:15.48 | P_R_Deltoid | well, it used to be "replace" |
| 17:15.51 | P_R_Deltoid | I thought that might be more suitable |
| 17:16.09 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 17:16.16 | P_R_Deltoid | looking at a working version someone else made, and it's Replace. |
| 17:16.19 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec |
| 17:17.06 | MindWorX` | vjeux, Am now |
| 17:17.15 | vjeux | ok |
| 17:17.15 | P_R_Deltoid | Quite odd. Doesn't work on my map at all |
| 17:18.09 | molsterr | did it work before? |
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| 17:19.02 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 17:19.14 | P_R_Deltoid | The situation is I am helping some guy with his map, but I made my own to test the concept |
| 17:19.17 | P_R_Deltoid | seperately |
| 17:19.19 | P_R_Deltoid | so |
| 17:19.21 | P_R_Deltoid | it works on his |
| 17:19.23 | P_R_Deltoid | but not mine |
| 17:19.30 | P_R_Deltoid | even though it;s the same command |
| 17:20.20 | molsterr | hmm, serious question, the target CC has enough minerals righ? |
| 17:20.43 | P_R_Deltoid | aw shit! |
| 17:20.46 | P_R_Deltoid | HAHA! |
| 17:20.49 | molsterr | =D |
| 17:21.35 | molsterr | the Simple things are always the hardest to find |
| 17:21.35 | P_R_Deltoid | indeed |
| 17:21.37 | molsterr | you dont think about them cuase there so simple =D real fast Im almost done with a working solution for you (elagently) but |
| 17:21.47 | molsterr | what is it your storing in your var? |
| 17:22.46 | Ulti_ | Alright, I'm stuck. The model's still not being textured in the previewer, even after converting every map to everything between dds dxt1na to dds dxt5 |
| 17:22.46 | P_R_Deltoid | for what? |
| 17:23.10 | molsterr | your script, you said its being replaced by the new unit thats put into the var |
| 17:23.19 | P_R_Deltoid | well, queueing was a sresource problem |
| 17:23.21 | molsterr | what is it thats being put in there.... lost thhe old text |
| 17:23.31 | molsterr | i mean for your porblem before |
| 17:23.35 | molsterr | the order to empty minerals |
| 17:23.37 | P_R_Deltoid | It was a global intiger that just determined what slot of the unit variable array of scvs died |
| 17:23.49 | molsterr | gotcha |
| 17:24.19 | molsterr | then brb =D |
| 17:24.23 | P_R_Deltoid | but I think that is the big problem |
| 17:24.27 | P_R_Deltoid | hence I am not doing it anymore |
| 17:24.35 | molsterr | nah thats fine |
| 17:24.47 | molsterr | easy fix, like I said, give me... 2 mins beofre you change anything |
| 17:24.50 | molsterr | and see what you think |
| 17:24.55 | Clord | http://www.xfire.com/profile/clord/screenshots/?view#102683723 |
| 17:24.56 | Clord | ^^ |
| 17:24.57 | Clord | yay |
| 17:25.00 | Clord | it is about finished |
| 17:25.08 | Clord | THE Card Game new UI |
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| 17:25.40 | Lasion | Ohh |
| 17:25.51 | P_R_Deltoid | why is that you always cap the THE |
| 17:26.17 | Lasion | Nice UI ;o |
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| 17:26.50 | Clord | because official name caps it |
| 17:27.13 | molsterr | bah |
| 17:27.23 | P_R_Deltoid | But why is that |
| 17:27.29 | P_R_Deltoid | problem, molsterr ? |
| 17:27.32 | P_R_Deltoid | :> |
| 17:27.36 | P_R_Deltoid | looks pretty cool, Clord |
| 17:27.40 | P_R_Deltoid | cards look like cards |
| 17:27.42 | P_R_Deltoid | that is a plus |
| 17:28.34 | molsterr | just got myself a little confused, but im good now =P |
| 17:28.45 | CloudMax | i have a problem.. I used Bifuus "WC3 Shop Emulation" video tutorial to make a shop.. But my items appears on the ground and not in the inventory like it is suppost to.. does anyone know how to solve this? |
| 17:28.59 | P_R_Deltoid | Pick them up! |
| 17:29.55 | CloudMax | .. |
| 17:30.47 | molsterr | ahHA! almost there now =D |
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| 17:31.44 | P_R_Deltoid | it's a race! |
| 17:31.46 | SweetZombieJesus | what the fuck |
| 17:32.04 | SweetZombieJesus | Preset Option is like completely random or something |
| 17:32.16 | SweetZombieJesus | bah |
| 17:32.21 | SweetZombieJesus | dont understand |
| 17:32.27 | Ulti_ | SUCCESS! Textured model ftw |
| 17:33.03 | P_R_Deltoid | hurray |
| 17:34.24 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh |
| 17:34.29 | P_R_Deltoid | I figured out why my solution wasn't working! |
| 17:34.32 | P_R_Deltoid | I was using the wrong variable |
| 17:35.19 | molsterr | oh? will that fix it 100% for you? |
| 17:35.26 | molsterr | even if it gets overwriteN? |
| 17:35.40 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 17:35.45 | P_R_Deltoid | apparently it doesn't fix it |
| 17:35.58 | molsterr | kk my solution is almost done =D |
| 17:36.04 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 17:36.05 | P_R_Deltoid | second problem |
| 17:36.10 | P_R_Deltoid | which I think... is the solution |
| 17:36.16 | molsterr | its just 2 functions ok |
| 17:36.17 | molsterr | shoot |
| 17:36.44 | P_R_Deltoid | the problem I was having with my solution was that the unit wasn't being ordered, but I was using the wrong Created Unit function |
| 17:36.48 | P_R_Deltoid | I was using Last Created Unit |
| 17:36.54 | P_R_Deltoid | which uses units created by the trigger Create Unit |
| 17:37.05 | P_R_Deltoid | instead of the event Unit is Created, which uses units created by structures/units |
| 17:37.07 | P_R_Deltoid | so |
| 17:37.09 | P_R_Deltoid | I think I fixed it |
| 17:37.29 | P_R_Deltoid | works with 1 dude, now to try 2. |
| 17:37.33 | P_R_Deltoid | first guys out |
| 17:37.41 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 17:37.43 | P_R_Deltoid | fixed it |
| 17:37.47 | molsterr | kk nice |
| 17:37.57 | P_R_Deltoid | but if you still wanna post your solution |
| 17:38.02 | P_R_Deltoid | we could see which one is better |
| 17:38.03 | P_R_Deltoid | ! |
| 17:38.20 | P_R_Deltoid | 4ms to do mine |
| 17:38.21 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 17:38.25 | P_R_Deltoid | 5ms |
| 17:38.34 | P_R_Deltoid | per death |
| 17:38.40 | P_R_Deltoid | which is pretty good, I can live with that |
| 17:39.05 | molsterr | well my solution was only going to fix the var getting overwritten, but that dosnt seem like it was the problem |
| 17:39.31 | P_R_Deltoid | well, it was, but I took that out and just found the next empty space in the scv array and assigned the created scv into that position |
| 17:39.49 | molsterr | but i just made anarray sorting function...so that will work for me anyway for some project in the futuer im sure haha |
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| 17:40.01 | molsterr | then |
| 17:40.04 | P_R_Deltoid | the variable was only used to determine which one died, but I did that locally in the second trigger now and skipped the whole global var issue |
| 17:40.11 | Ulti_ | ._. Now that's amusing... the model looks fine in the previewer and when placing... but testing the map makes it pink and blooming |
| 17:40.16 | molsterr | you ill need to still sort the array |
| 17:40.24 | molsterr | what happens when the array is filled? |
| 17:40.28 | P_R_Deltoid | filled? |
| 17:40.33 | P_R_Deltoid | I don't use any sort of array like that |
| 17:40.42 | molsterr | ? |
| 17:40.47 | P_R_Deltoid | it's purely 2 arrays, 1 full of scvs, 1 full of corrisponding mineral patches |
| 17:40.55 | P_R_Deltoid | so when 1 scv dies, I set it's spot in the array to "No Unit" |
| 17:41.01 | P_R_Deltoid | then queue up another |
| 17:41.02 | molsterr | GOTCHA |
| 17:41.06 | P_R_Deltoid | then the second trigger, on unit created, fires |
| 17:41.16 | P_R_Deltoid | and it cycles through that scv array and fines the first "no unit" array |
| 17:41.17 | molsterr | that was part of my solution so...there you go, =D |
| 17:41.26 | P_R_Deltoid | and then assigns the scv to that array slot and sends it off! |
| 17:41.30 | molsterr | yeah, that was my array sorting function |
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| 17:41.33 | P_R_Deltoid | so, no big bulky 200 part arrays. |
| 17:41.36 | P_R_Deltoid | sweet |
| 17:41.45 | molsterr | yeah no, like i said, the 200, was just a super fast get it out there for you |
| 17:41.45 | P_R_Deltoid | moderate minds think alike! |
| 17:41.49 | molsterr | i woudlnt have put that in a map hehhe |
| 17:41.53 | P_R_Deltoid | heh |
| 17:41.54 | P_R_Deltoid | alright |
| 17:42.00 | P_R_Deltoid | time to remake it completely in the actual map |
| 17:42.01 | P_R_Deltoid | ! |
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| 17:42.17 | P_R_Deltoid | or I could be lazy and try to make it a library |
| 17:42.18 | molsterr | woot AKA time for random problems that make no sense! |
| 17:43.14 | Clord | yeah deltoid... it looks good |
| 17:43.22 | Clord | first card game map to make cards look actual cards |
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| 17:45.27 | P_R_Deltoid | wll |
| 17:45.29 | P_R_Deltoid | what about card craft? |
| 17:45.33 | P_R_Deltoid | It even had a "dealing" animation |
| 17:45.41 | P_R_Deltoid | where the cards were drawn off a adeck and flipped |
| 17:46.52 | Clord | and manages to annoy great deal... ^^ |
| 17:46.53 | Clord | lol |
| 17:48.59 | Clord | as that effect looks like game laga |
| 17:49.01 | Clord | lags |
| 17:49.08 | Clord | it gives that weird feel what everyone almost hate |
| 17:50.41 | Unrea1 | http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4822/treeharvest.jpg |
| 17:50.50 | goomba_ | anyone wanna play tf2 lol |
| 17:51.17 | TheRingBearer | Make tf2 for sc2? |
| 17:51.27 | goomba_ | wsad denied |
| 17:51.45 | Unrea1 | How do i loop a trigger |
| 17:51.57 | TheRingBearer | Scout can jump out and down cliffs. Soldiers/demos can as well for a hp cost. Overheal is just a Shield which rapidly decreases |
| 17:51.59 | goomba_ | for |
| 17:52.03 | molsterr | for loop? while Loop both wor |
| 17:52.11 | molsterr | work |
| 17:52.33 | Unrea1 | ? |
| 17:52.36 | Komodo1138 | really hates when imported models turn into a sphere |
| 17:52.53 | TheRingBearer | But heres the real trouble with putting tf2 into sc2.... hats |
| 17:52.59 | P_R_Deltoid | there is also Loop Forever |
| 17:53.08 | P_R_Deltoid | which loops indefinitely until you return or break everything |
| 17:53.11 | P_R_Deltoid | or turn it off |
| 17:53.34 | molsterr | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.10 | molsterr | and General - Wait for (Conditions), checking every 1.0 Game Time seconds |
| 17:54.15 | molsterr | are the 3 best choices |
| 17:54.31 | molsterr | err |
| 17:54.37 | molsterr | wrong one on the wait |
| 17:54.44 | Tolkfan | Is there any way to use the story mode interface/functions (like research, mercenaries etc) in a custom map? |
| 17:55.29 | Tolkfan | Story Mode itself seems to be locked for non-blizz games :( |
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| 17:55.36 | Froznic | hey, is cataclysm in closed beta or open? |
| 17:55.43 | Tolkfan | closed |
| 17:56.00 | Froznic | interesting o.O i stopped playing wow and got an invite to closed beta lol |
| 17:56.13 | goomba_ | selll it |
| 17:56.19 | molsterr | you cant |
| 17:56.19 | Froznic | it's attached to my account |
| 17:56.23 | goomba_ | oh |
| 17:56.29 | goomba_ | well let me check mine :P |
| 17:56.39 | goomba_ | actually that kind of makes good business sense |
| 17:56.49 | Froznic | i've been gettin like 10 emails a day from spammers so i just sorta stopped looking at them looking for an invite |
| 17:56.49 | goomba_ | to send it to people who quit, to try and get them back |
| 17:56.53 | Froznic | ya |
| 17:57.02 | Tolkfan | I got a SC2 beta invite when I quit wow :P |
| 17:57.06 | Froznic | lol |
| 17:57.17 | goomba_ | i bought my sc2 beta :\ |
| 17:57.19 | Froznic | might be some truth to that, maybe they do invite like that |
| 17:57.38 | Froznic | i didn't cancel my account, just stopped logging in |
| 17:57.51 | goomba_ | o mines been cancelled |
| 17:58.15 | Froznic | not that there's anything special to look forward to anyway i don't think in cata, unless u can xfer ur chars over to the ptr and play em but even then i duno .. wow is so stale |
| 17:58.20 | molsterr | if your account is cancelled you dont get beta nivites...so I think it was a glitch in the system lol |
| 17:58.26 | goomba_ | it really is |
| 17:58.40 | molsterr | you can car copy and premade on the beta right now |
| 17:58.42 | goomba_ | took me a while to realize i was spending massive amounts of time doing nothing |
| 17:58.59 | Froznic | lol, well, i knew i was spending the time doing that.. i just didn't have anything better to do apparently |
| 17:59.10 | goomba_ | and not enjoying it as well |
| 17:59.34 | Tolkfan | noting to look forward to in cata? Did you miss the part where they're remaking the whole game? :P |
| 17:59.55 | goomba_ | itll be just more of the same |
| 18:00.01 | goomba_ | once the new stuff wares off |
| 18:00.04 | goomba_ | after 2-3 months |
| 18:00.24 | goomba_ | theyll put out content they stole from their previous expansions |
| 18:00.29 | Tolkfan | and I plan to play it for 1-2 months :P |
| 18:00.35 | P_R_Deltoid | welp |
| 18:00.43 | P_R_Deltoid | transferred it to another map and now it's not working! |
| 18:01.13 | Aussie123 | im making a basic map, whoever has the best macroing skill will win :p |
| 18:01.42 | Aussie123 | first to exhaust all their minerals |
| 18:02.09 | goomba_ | ez just pick terran |
| 18:02.23 | goomba_ | spend all minerals on orbital commands |
| 18:02.28 | goomba_ | mules everywhere |
| 18:02.48 | Aussie123 | hmm.. that could cause a few problems |
| 18:03.01 | Aussie123 | maybe remove the mules? |
| 18:03.06 | goomba_ | but wait goomba! spawn larva drones and chrono boost! |
| 18:03.26 | Aussie123 | will it really be even tho |
| 18:03.36 | goomba_ | maximum scvs, drones, or probes on 8 mineral patches = 24 |
| 18:03.49 | goomba_ | except mules dont collide with scvs |
| 18:04.00 | goomba_ | and can gather off a patch at the same time as an acv |
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| 18:04.13 | goomba_ | no mules are fairly imba :P |
| 18:04.15 | Aussie123 | well the mules wont make a dif if ur crap anyway :p |
| 18:04.29 | Aussie123 | it will be all about the apm |
| 18:04.33 | Unrea1 | If i want to loop the trigger how could i get it to check the event again |
| 18:04.42 | Unrea1 | It seems to skip the event |
| 18:04.52 | goomba_ | do you have to defend anything? |
| 18:05.13 | Aussie123 | should i do 8 mini bases for 1 player per team, or 4 islands and do 2v2v2v2 |
| 18:05.22 | Aussie123 | i mean 8 little islands |
| 18:05.33 | Tolkfan | Map Development forum is getting so overcrowded... |
| 18:05.35 | goomba_ | idk |
| 18:05.37 | Aussie123 | this is more of a macroing map not a TD |
| 18:05.45 | Aussie123 | so i doubt it |
| 18:06.13 | goomba_ | tolk they should get someone to move their threads around |
| 18:06.16 | Aussie123 | does it sound kinda... boring? |
| 18:06.21 | goomba_ | put em in the specific forums |
| 18:06.51 | Aussie123 | there are rich minerals at the middle of the map |
| 18:07.09 | Aussie123 | 3 mineral patches at the bottom middle and top 3 layers across |
| 18:07.13 | Aussie123 | if u get wat i mean |
| 18:07.34 | Aussie123 | i mean in the middle of each base |
| 18:07.38 | molsterr | I totally called that deltoid |
| 18:07.57 | P_R_Deltoid | molsterr, lol |
| 18:08.02 | P_R_Deltoid | I think i got now, though |
| 18:08.02 | P_R_Deltoid | phew |
| 18:08.08 | molsterr | lol |
| 18:08.12 | P_R_Deltoid | forgot 1 "return" |
| 18:08.14 | P_R_Deltoid | to break a loop |
| 18:08.50 | molsterr | how dare you break a loop! |
| 18:08.59 | Technomancer | nnnnnnnneeeeeeeeerrrrrrrdddddddd |
| 18:09.05 | P_R_Deltoid | I will break it |
| 18:09.14 | P_R_Deltoid | heh |
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| 18:09.28 | P_R_Deltoid | so if you killed more than 1 unit, it'd give the next spawned unit more than one place in the array |
| 18:09.28 | molsterr | o.0 |
| 18:09.47 | molsterr | ll |
| 18:09.47 | P_R_Deltoid | because it'd keep looping |
| 18:09.56 | P_R_Deltoid | and fill in every slot with "no unit" with that one spawned unit |
| 18:10.03 | P_R_Deltoid | but the return breaks the loop before that happens |
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| 18:10.09 | P_R_Deltoid | hence forgetting it created bugs |
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| 18:13.09 | Technomancer | ok lets say I want to increase the physical boundary of a unit (because its a scaled up unit and I wanna stop small stuff from passing through) what would I adjust? |
| 18:13.36 | Klishu | I'd adjust its Radius |
| 18:13.41 | Klishu | hi all by the way |
| 18:13.47 | Vailreth | hi all |
| 18:14.02 | Unrea1 | Yo vail |
| 18:14.16 | Vail | yes i blieve you adjust the radius |
| 18:14.24 | P_R_Deltoid | Radius is correct! |
| 18:16.16 | molsterr | ou might also want to change its footprint |
| 18:17.02 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm, the runtime for the scv thing has shot up on this other map |
| 18:17.08 | P_R_Deltoid | evne though it's the exact same set of triggers |
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| 18:20.00 | Klishu | anyone found a way of returning Record types in functions? |
| 18:20.09 | Technomancer | What field is the radius? |
| 18:20.12 | Technomancer | I saw it before |
| 18:20.16 | Technomancer | but I can't remember now |
| 18:20.20 | Alcoholix | someone cheer me up! |
| 18:20.34 | Cornelius | whats up P_R_Deltoid |
| 18:21.02 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 18:21.05 | P_R_Deltoid | doin map stuff |
| 18:21.07 | P_R_Deltoid | man |
| 18:21.12 | P_R_Deltoid | debug messages take up a lot of time |
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| 18:21.13 | P_R_Deltoid | like |
| 18:21.15 | P_R_Deltoid | A LOT |
| 18:21.21 | Technomancer | is it movement - radius, movement - seperation radius, etc? |
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| 18:21.30 | Cornelius | oh yea i cant figure out how to get them to go into a document |
| 18:21.35 | Cornelius | where is it saved? |
| 18:21.38 | Cornelius | i set a name for it |
| 18:21.38 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 18:21.57 | P_R_Deltoid | I dunno about that, but if you have Debug Window and Start in Windowed Mode on then it displays in the trigger debugging window |
| 18:22.02 | P_R_Deltoid | which is handy |
| 18:22.15 | P_R_Deltoid | you can also see the runtime of a lot of this stuff |
| 18:22.20 | Cornelius | didnt even know there was a debug window lol |
| 18:22.25 | P_R_Deltoid | I fixed the scv problem and put it into the map, fyi |
| 18:22.34 | Cornelius | the one i have? |
| 18:22.46 | Cornelius | or u havent sent it yet |
| 18:23.15 | Technomancer | Vali, which "Radius" field do I adjust? there are many |
| 18:24.31 | P_R_Deltoid | Cornelius, the edited one, but further edited |
| 18:24.43 | P_R_Deltoid | solved the issue of multiple dead scvs |
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| 18:25.33 | Cornelius | oh so u didnt send it? |
| 18:25.36 | Clord | I wonder how I would move chat area in THE Card Game map |
| 18:25.38 | Clord | ^^ |
| 18:25.45 | Cornelius | btw great job on the custom actions, super easy to make waves now |
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| 18:26.27 | P_R_Deltoid | Not this one, no, but I sent the one with the edited waves and stuff last night. |
| 18:26.28 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 18:26.29 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 18:26.30 | P_R_Deltoid | :> |
| 18:26.41 | Galois-evariste | okay guys |
| 18:26.42 | P_R_Deltoid | So |
| 18:26.43 | Galois-evariste | big problem |
| 18:26.51 | Galois-evariste | someone explain to me |
| 18:26.54 | Galois-evariste | how "pick each player in player group" works |
| 18:26.57 | Galois-evariste | because i apparently don't get it |
| 18:27.05 | Cornelius | what are u trying to do? |
| 18:27.15 | Galois-evariste | umm it doesn't really matter yet |
| 18:27.19 | P_R_Deltoid | Right now? Nothing, really. I fixed the scv thing and that's it |
| 18:27.23 | P_R_Deltoid | you have any more problems? |
| 18:27.23 | Galois-evariste | i want to make sure that i understand what that thing means first |
| 18:27.34 | Technomancer | Valireth, P_R_Deltoid, which radius would I adjust for physical collision boundaries? there are many |
| 18:27.41 | Cornelius | was talking to galois. but yea feel free to send that over so i can add it into the map |
| 18:27.47 | P_R_Deltoid | Just the regular "Radius" one, I think. |
| 18:27.48 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec |
| 18:28.00 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 18:28.02 | P_R_Deltoid | ohhh |
| 18:28.18 | Galois-evariste | hey techno - inner radius is for determining when units collide |
| 18:28.27 | Galois-evariste | outer radius is for determining when units collide wieh terrain |
| 18:28.30 | Galois-evariste | just have them be equal |
| 18:28.34 | Galois-evariste | that's how they are by default |
| 18:28.36 | Technomancer | certain? ok, ill try thanks |
| 18:28.38 | depthsofchaos | galois, youre calling others stupid, yet you dont get this simple function ?:o |
| 18:28.48 | P_R_Deltoid | sent indeed. |
| 18:28.52 | Galois-evariste | hey |
| 18:28.54 | Galois-evariste | you |
| 18:28.55 | Galois-evariste | guess what |
| 18:29.02 | Galois-evariste | just because i ask for someone to explain it to me |
| 18:29.08 | Galois-evariste | does not necessarily mean that i don't understand it |
| 18:29.17 | Galois-evariste | i might, i might not |
| 18:29.38 | Galois-evariste | now someone explain it to me so i can know if its the reason why my thing isn't working |
| 18:29.38 | devilesk | pick each player in group loops through a group and picks each player from it |
| 18:29.44 | depthsofchaos | doesnt change the fact that youre a hypocrite |
| 18:29.49 | Galois-evariste | now what does tha tmean exactly |
| 18:29.54 | P_R_Deltoid | heh |
| 18:29.57 | Galois-evariste | hypocr... dude i'm not even |
| 18:29.59 | devilesk | do you know what a loop does? |
| 18:30.00 | Galois-evariste | whatever |
| 18:30.03 | Galois-evariste | i don't have time for this |
| 18:30.06 | P_R_Deltoid | like the 5th time today this has happened. |
| 18:30.08 | Galois-evariste | devilsk yeah i do |
| 18:30.15 | Galois-evariste | what do you mean when you say it picks each player from it |
| 18:30.16 | devilesk | you use the picked player function within the loop |
| 18:30.22 | Galois-evariste | right |
| 18:30.28 | Galois-evariste | but what does it mean to pick each player from it |
| 18:30.38 | devilesk | it means if i have a group with players 1 2 3 in them |
| 18:30.46 | Galois-evariste | okay |
| 18:30.53 | devilesk | in the first iteration "picked player" will refer to player 1 |
| 18:30.57 | Galois-evariste | okay |
| 18:30.57 | devilesk | second iteration it will refer to player 2 |
| 18:31.02 | devilesk | third it will refer to player 3 |
| 18:31.03 | Galois-evariste | so it goes through one per player in the group |
| 18:31.05 | Galois-evariste | that's what i thought |
| 18:31.06 | Galois-evariste | okay |
| 18:31.15 | Galois-evariste | so its something else |
| 18:31.26 | Galois-evariste | now here's my next question |
| 18:32.23 | devilesk | although i don't know how players are stored in a group so the order might not be like that |
| 18:33.08 | Galois-evariste | its not that that i'm about to ask |
| 18:33.16 | Galois-evariste | let me get this link ready |
| 18:33.20 | Galois-evariste | i'm going to show you the part |
| 18:33.24 | Galois-evariste | and tell you what the output is because of it |
| 18:33.30 | Galois-evariste | and i want someone to explain why the fuck its like that |
| 18:33.32 | Galois-evariste | because its beyond me |
| 18:33.43 | Galois-evariste | i thought it was because i misunderstood what it "pick each player in player group" meant |
| 18:33.48 | Galois-evariste | but apparently i don't, so i'm out of ideas atm |
| 18:33.55 | Galois-evariste | http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1324/97253279.png |
| 18:34.03 | Galois-evariste | so fuck you jonny depths |
| 18:34.24 | Galois-evariste | the output of this script here |
| 18:34.27 | Galois-evariste | is that the created unit |
| 18:34.32 | Galois-evariste | gets added to both Character One |
| 18:34.34 | Galois-evariste | and Character One 2 |
| 18:34.43 | Galois-evariste | as well -- so i'm a bit clueless about why its doing that |
| 18:35.35 | Galois-evariste | so the question is: why is the created unit being added to both player 1 and player 2's groups? |
| 18:36.08 | devilesk | how many players are in team t |
| 18:36.14 | Galois-evariste | one |
| 18:36.16 | Galois-evariste | excuse me |
| 18:36.18 | Galois-evariste | i mean two |
| 18:36.31 | Galois-evariste | however |
| 18:36.33 | devilesk | are two marines created? |
| 18:36.34 | Galois-evariste | even when its just one |
| 18:36.37 | Galois-evariste | the same output happens |
| 18:36.41 | Galois-evariste | one marine per player is made |
| 18:36.49 | Galois-evariste | but we both control them |
| 18:37.03 | Galois-evariste | regardless of whether team t has one or two players in it |
| 18:37.14 | Galois-evariste | if team t has one player in it |
| 18:37.17 | Galois-evariste | one unit for both teams exist |
| 18:37.22 | Galois-evariste | however we both control them even in that case as well |
| 18:37.35 | Galois-evariste | that's what makes this bizarre |
| 18:37.40 | devilesk | if two marines are being created that means there's two people in the group |
| 18:37.47 | devilesk | are you sure you're creating team t correctly? |
| 18:38.00 | devilesk | either that or that whole thing is running twice |
| 18:38.17 | Galois-evariste | there is an identical version of this highlighted part |
| 18:38.21 | Galois-evariste | repeated for people in the other team |
| 18:38.28 | Galois-evariste | this is just the version for T |
| 18:38.43 | Galois-evariste | however team t is replaced with something else |
| 18:38.45 | devilesk | did you change it correctly for the other team? |
| 18:38.45 | Cornelius | P_R_Deltoid there a couple bugs. for instance, if more than 1 dies, only 1 respawns. and if you kill the same SCV twice, it doesnt respawn |
| 18:38.49 | Cornelius | just fyi |
| 18:38.52 | Galois-evariste | yes the actions are identical |
| 18:38.55 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 18:38.59 | P_R_Deltoid | if you kill the same scv twice |
| 18:39.03 | P_R_Deltoid | thought I tested that, 1 sec |
| 18:39.04 | Galois-evariste | everything in the actions part is identical to this |
| 18:39.11 | Galois-evariste | the only that's different is the player group |
| 18:39.16 | Galois-evariste | the team |
| 18:40.14 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 18:40.14 | Cornelius | actually they arent respawning at all for me now lol |
| 18:40.15 | P_R_Deltoid | Cornelius, |
| 18:40.18 | P_R_Deltoid | he doesn't have enough money |
| 18:40.22 | P_R_Deltoid | that is the problem |
| 18:40.25 | P_R_Deltoid | happened to me earlier |
| 18:40.29 | Cornelius | ahhh |
| 18:40.31 | P_R_Deltoid | He can't afford them |
| 18:40.38 | Cornelius | i feel silly |
| 18:40.53 | P_R_Deltoid | Did literally the same thing, molsterr had to remind me to check |
| 18:41.08 | Cornelius | lol, and the minerals are posted in top-right |
| 18:41.15 | P_R_Deltoid | also, why does the decloak button have a create siege tank button |
| 18:41.15 | molsterr | did you run out of minerals again? |
| 18:41.20 | P_R_Deltoid | molsterr, not me this time! |
| 18:41.24 | Cornelius | < |
| 18:41.29 | P_R_Deltoid | indeed |
| 18:41.39 | P_R_Deltoid | fyi, there should be a loss trigger for stuff like this |
| 18:41.48 | P_R_Deltoid | ie: 0 scvs on field and less than 50 resources |
| 18:41.50 | P_R_Deltoid | = failure |
| 18:41.55 | P_R_Deltoid | because you can never come back from it |
| 18:42.08 | P_R_Deltoid | granted, there are currently no loss triggers at all |
| 18:42.10 | Cornelius | oh yea i was trying to get a victory trigger and i was so sure it would work but it didnt |
| 18:42.11 | Cornelius | lol |
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| 18:43.16 | Helral | Galois-evariste: what's the exact problem? The amount of marines created is wrong or you can both control the same unit? |
| 18:43.18 | Cornelius | lemme see if i can recreate, 1 sec |
| 18:44.10 | P_R_Deltoid | alright |
| 18:44.13 | Helral | Galois-evariste: incase it is the last one --> check the alliance setting. you might have it set to shared control. |
| 18:44.18 | P_R_Deltoid | Working on a better look mineral counter atm |
| 18:44.55 | Cornelius | http://pastebin.com/J2aqdmZV |
| 18:44.56 | Galois-evariste | the second one |
| 18:44.59 | Galois-evariste | its not shared control |
| 18:45.05 | Galois-evariste | the alliances are correct |
| 18:45.10 | Galois-evariste | i know that for a fact |
| 18:45.14 | Galois-evariste | when i say shared control |
| 18:45.21 | Galois-evariste | it means that if i order a unit to do something, |
| 18:45.31 | Galois-evariste | the unit that is supposed to belong to the other player |
| 18:45.34 | Cornelius | what do you think of that P_R_Deltoid? |
| 18:45.35 | Galois-evariste | will mimic my orders |
| 18:45.40 | Galois-evariste | and vice versa |
| 18:45.41 | P_R_Deltoid | ALL WRONG |
| 18:45.41 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 18:45.44 | Cornelius | lol |
| 18:45.45 | Galois-evariste | but we can't actually select eachothers units |
| 18:45.48 | P_R_Deltoid | well, should be for all players |
| 18:45.50 | P_R_Deltoid | firstly |
| 18:45.53 | Cornelius | well yea |
| 18:45.54 | Galois-evariste | and manually give them commands |
| 18:45.54 | P_R_Deltoid | but it should work just fine |
| 18:45.56 | P_R_Deltoid | as a victory |
| 18:45.57 | Galois-evariste | that's why this is so crazy |
| 18:45.59 | P_R_Deltoid | but you also need defeat |
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| 18:46.00 | Cornelius | doesnt |
| 18:46.01 | Helral | Galois-evariste: then how do you have the unit movement triggered? |
| 18:46.01 | Cornelius | :[ |
| 18:46.06 | P_R_Deltoid | It doesn't? |
| 18:46.11 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 18:46.12 | Galois-evariste | the movements depend on the character groups |
| 18:46.16 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 18:46.17 | P_R_Deltoid | OHHH |
| 18:46.18 | Cornelius | oh wait a sec |
| 18:46.18 | Galois-evariste | and the trigger i showed you there |
| 18:46.19 | P_R_Deltoid | I see the problem |
| 18:46.20 | Cornelius | i have an idea |
| 18:46.23 | P_R_Deltoid | wait |
| 18:46.23 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec |
| 18:46.27 | Cornelius | i should make it = or greater |
| 18:46.27 | Galois-evariste | was the only place where units are assigned to character groups |
| 18:46.28 | P_R_Deltoid | use greater than or equal to |
| 18:46.30 | P_R_Deltoid | yes |
| 18:46.32 | Cornelius | lol |
| 18:46.36 | P_R_Deltoid | :> |
| 18:46.40 | Galois-evariste | so if units move its becausethey're in the unit group |
| 18:46.48 | Galois-evariste | so since both players can move both units |
| 18:46.53 | Helral | Galois-evariste: might the problem lie in the move trigger? |
| 18:46.56 | Galois-evariste | the units are in both unit groups at the same time |
| 18:46.58 | Galois-evariste | no |
| 18:47.03 | Galois-evariste | i've spent a lot of time looking at this |
| 18:47.07 | Galois-evariste | it has nothign to do with the movements |
| 18:47.12 | Galois-evariste | because the movements |
| 18:47.24 | Galois-evariste | depend SOLELY on the unit groups that are assigned in that picture i showed you |
| 18:48.11 | Galois-evariste | which is why this is so crazy for me |
| 18:48.12 | molsterr | galois |
| 18:48.15 | Helral | hmmmm could be. I don't know since I don't know how your movement trigger looks. the trigger that you posted looks ok. |
| 18:48.27 | Galois-evariste | i thought it looked okay too |
| 18:48.35 | Galois-evariste | but the movement triggers for both of those units |
| 18:48.37 | Galois-evariste | are mutually exclusive |
| 18:48.40 | Galois-evariste | there is no overlap |
| 18:48.42 | Galois-evariste | at all |
| 18:48.47 | Galois-evariste | if one player can control both units |
| 18:48.53 | Galois-evariste | its because both units are in each of the unit groups |
| 18:49.02 | molsterr | after you have finished maken the units, have you done a 'Pick each unit in unit group: and kill them, to see if both die? if they do, then you know they are in the same group if they dont, you know its a funky problem somewhere else |
| 18:49.09 | Cornelius | how do i easily end game in victory for all players? pick each player in player grp and do it that way? |
| 18:49.16 | Galois-evariste | i haven't tested that but i can do that now |
| 18:49.23 | Galois-evariste | yes cornelius |
| 18:49.23 | Unrea1 | http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6406/condition.jpg What condition could i use to make it so it doesnt keep going through the actions :| |
| 18:49.25 | Galois-evariste | that's how you do it |
| 18:49.28 | molsterr | id give that a test |
| 18:49.37 | molsterr | good place to start debugging |
| 18:49.40 | Helral | Galois-evariste: test it. create the 2 units groups with units already placed on the map. set 1 unit to group 1, the other unit to group 2. |
| 18:49.51 | Helral | and use your movement trigger to control them. |
| 18:50.03 | Galois-evariste | i already did that |
| 18:50.07 | Galois-evariste | what you just suggested |
| 18:50.11 | Helral | that works fine? |
| 18:50.11 | P_R_Deltoid | Unrea1, what |
| 18:50.16 | Galois-evariste | and it works fine when i manually assign each unit to the unit group |
| 18:50.20 | Galois-evariste | in that i can only control my unit |
| 18:50.29 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 18:50.29 | Galois-evariste | im going to try molsterr's idea |
| 18:50.35 | Unrea1 | Well, whats happens is i want it to Loop but it just keeps looping without a condition |
| 18:50.37 | P_R_Deltoid | you are running it again, why are you running it again? |
| 18:50.44 | Unrea1 | So it respawns |
| 18:51.05 | P_R_Deltoid | the point of this is to replace a unit with another unit when the first unit is... "removed from the game" |
| 18:51.07 | P_R_Deltoid | whatever that means |
| 18:51.10 | P_R_Deltoid | I assume it's like minerals |
| 18:51.12 | P_R_Deltoid | correct? |
| 18:51.15 | Unrea1 | Yea |
| 18:51.21 | P_R_Deltoid | okay |
| 18:51.26 | P_R_Deltoid | so why should it ever do it more than once? |
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| 18:51.53 | P_R_Deltoid | why would making the tree respawn loop be neccissary |
| 18:52.07 | Unrea1 | Running out of minerals |
| 18:52.19 | Unrea1 | Its limited then respawns over time |
| 18:52.23 | Helral | Unrea1: you should make it use any unit in the event and then an unit type condition. (Unit Type of (Triggering Unit)) == Oak Tree) |
| 18:52.37 | Helral | Unrea1: and get rid of the trigger at the end. |
| 18:52.50 | Kalekin | rerunning the trigger at the end of your trigger |
| 18:52.51 | Helral | Unrea1: the run tree death action. |
| 18:52.52 | P_R_Deltoid | but... why a loop then? |
| 18:52.52 | Kalekin | :0~~~ |
| 18:52.56 | Unrea1 | But i have multiple trees |
| 18:53.10 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, i still don't get this. The point of the event is to run when it runs out |
| 18:53.13 | P_R_Deltoid | and the trigger remakes the tree |
| 18:53.14 | P_R_Deltoid | so |
| 18:53.17 | P_R_Deltoid | why do you have to loop it? |
| 18:53.18 | Kalekin | It will work for any tree |
| 18:53.29 | Helral | Unrea1: you can use 1 trigger for all trees. |
| 18:53.32 | Kalekin | Do as Helral said, |
| 18:53.37 | Twinmold | Is it possible to change the format of the text converted in a convert x to text action? |
| 18:53.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Anyone know of a print screen application that uses an onscreen button instead of the keyboard button? |
| 18:53.52 | Helral | Unrea1: also use Point --> position of unit (Triggering Unit) |
| 18:54.01 | P_R_Deltoid | Twinmold, a dialog item? |
| 18:54.12 | Twinmold | Yes |
| 18:54.18 | P_R_Deltoid | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.24 | P_R_Deltoid | that? |
| 18:54.30 | P_R_Deltoid | it will stay that way forever, even if you update the value |
| 18:54.39 | P_R_Deltoid | unless you specifically overwrite it |
| 18:54.49 | Cornelius | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.06 | Helral | Controller of Player (Picked Player) != Computer |
| 18:55.08 | Helral | or |
| 18:55.10 | P_R_Deltoid | It's in there. |
| 18:55.18 | Helral | Controller of Player (Picked Player) == Computer |
| 18:55.23 | Twinmold | Thought changing styles would be done at the same place you change text, thank you. |
| 18:55.24 | Helral | User* |
| 18:55.39 | Helral | Cornelius: Controller of Player (Picked Player) == User* |
| 18:55.48 | Helral | think that one might work even better for you. |
| 18:55.56 | P_R_Deltoid | Cornelius, I think it's a preset, not a function |
| 18:55.59 | P_R_Deltoid | what you are looking for |
| 18:56.00 | Helral | unless you want it also to work for hostile, neutral stuff. |
| 18:56.03 | Helral | it's a function |
| 18:56.05 | Cornelius | got it i was looking for controller of player in the wrong spot |
| 18:56.10 | Galois-evariste | okay |
| 18:56.11 | P_R_Deltoid | No... |
| 18:56.13 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh |
| 18:56.13 | Galois-evariste | so i just finished testing it with a friend |
| 18:56.15 | P_R_Deltoid | Controller of Player |
| 18:56.15 | Galois-evariste | turns out |
| 18:56.18 | Galois-evariste | the unit groups are fine |
| 18:56.18 | P_R_Deltoid | naw |
| 18:56.21 | Galois-evariste | so its something else |
| 18:56.27 | P_R_Deltoid | What you were would have worked... |
| 18:56.28 | mahashiro | hey guys, I want to make my dark templar only use 1 of the models |
| 18:56.34 | Galois-evariste | which puts me back to the drawing borad |
| 18:56.36 | mahashiro | do any of you know what I should be looking at? |
| 18:56.38 | P_R_Deltoid | but instead of =1, you would use the preset Computer. |
| 18:56.46 | Helral | Galois-evariste: how do you combine the unit group with the movement trigger? |
| 18:56.46 | P_R_Deltoid | Don't need Controller of Player. |
| 18:56.54 | P_R_Deltoid | Completely unneccisary, tbh |
| 18:57.00 | Galois-evariste | the movement triggers |
| 18:57.02 | P_R_Deltoid | erm |
| 18:57.02 | Galois-evariste | depend solely |
| 18:57.04 | P_R_Deltoid | ohhh |
| 18:57.05 | P_R_Deltoid | I am an idiot |
| 18:57.06 | Galois-evariste | on the unit group corresponding to the player |
| 18:57.08 | P_R_Deltoid | nevermind, yeah, do that |
| 18:57.09 | P_R_Deltoid | :x |
| 18:57.12 | Galois-evariste | they are very simple and clean |
| 18:57.18 | molsterr | well |
| 18:57.19 | P_R_Deltoid | Had that already and didn't evne notice. |
| 18:57.23 | Galois-evariste | and everywhere a unit group is mentioned, it is the correct one |
| 18:57.25 | molsterr | you know it works when you add the units yourself |
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| 18:57.36 | P_R_Deltoid | sorry, Helral ! Did not mean to question you! |
| 18:57.36 | molsterr | but not when that script does it correct? |
| 18:57.39 | Cornelius | http://pastebin.com/gTAJWyvC |
| 18:57.40 | Galois-evariste | when i add the unites myself they work |
| 18:57.48 | Galois-evariste | the problem |
| 18:57.50 | Galois-evariste | is not that the movement is bad |
| 18:57.58 | P_R_Deltoid | Looks good |
| 18:58.05 | Galois-evariste | its that the computer takes both of our inputs and uses them for both characters |
| 18:58.13 | Helral | Galois-evariste: how did you try what molsterr suggested? |
| 18:58.24 | P_R_Deltoid | I always go for redudancy and instead of putting Triggering Player in the condition, I do the actual number of it's static |
| 18:58.25 | P_R_Deltoid | but |
| 18:58.29 | P_R_Deltoid | I think it's mostly irrelevant |
| 18:58.34 | Galois-evariste | molsterr suggested which one |
| 18:58.37 | Galois-evariste | i lost track let me scroll up |
| 18:58.44 | molsterr | ok if it works when you do it yourself, but not when that function does it, we need to move on to the next step |
| 18:58.48 | molsterr | (yes he did helral) |
| 18:58.57 | Galois-evariste | okay he suggested the thing i just did |
| 18:59.02 | Unrea1 | Ok so i changed the trigger |
| 18:59.02 | Unrea1 | http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6406/condition.jpg |
| 18:59.04 | Galois-evariste | i deleted the trigger let me ctrl+z it |
| 18:59.06 | Unrea1 | ^ not working |
| 18:59.13 | P_R_Deltoid | And does that work? |
| 18:59.13 | Helral | Galois-evariste: did you use eg. event: 5 seconds gametime passed orso? |
| 18:59.17 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 18:59.30 | Galois-evariste | no |
| 18:59.31 | P_R_Deltoid | How are you testing it, Unrea1 ? |
| 18:59.32 | Helral | make it trigger a few seconds after you've finished creating the units. |
| 18:59.33 | Galois-evariste | even better |
| 18:59.34 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.36 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.37 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.39 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.39 | Helral | ahhh |
| 18:59.40 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.40 | Helral | XD |
| 18:59.42 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.43 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.45 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.47 | Helral | ok that would also work. |
| 18:59.47 | Galois-evariste | it worked correctly |
| 18:59.53 | Galois-evariste | which is why it did |
| 18:59.56 | Unrea1 | What do you mean how am i testing it |
| 19:00.04 | P_R_Deltoid | How are you testing to see if it doesn't work? |
| 19:00.06 | Helral | so you first checked if the movement was still wrong, and then typed "a". |
| 19:00.07 | molsterr | now AFTER that function is done (the one that adds units to the groups" |
| 19:00.08 | P_R_Deltoid | Are you mining it out? |
| 19:00.09 | Unrea1 | I go in game and mine the minerals |
| 19:00.16 | P_R_Deltoid | How high do you set the minerals? |
| 19:00.19 | P_R_Deltoid | like 2 hits? |
| 19:00.20 | Unrea1 | 15 |
| 19:00.20 | molsterr | MANUALY add 2 new units (one to each group) |
| 19:00.22 | Helral | and the correct unit died. |
| 19:00.23 | P_R_Deltoid | alright |
| 19:00.24 | molsterr | and see what happens |
| 19:00.25 | P_R_Deltoid | just checking |
| 19:00.26 | Galois-evariste | yeah that's kind of obvious |
| 19:00.28 | molsterr | see if all 4 mimic |
| 19:00.30 | P_R_Deltoid | to see if you weren't doing anything weird |
| 19:00.31 | Unrea1 | And they get deleted |
| 19:00.33 | Unrea1 | And nothing |
| 19:00.33 | molsterr | or just the 2 that were auto made |
| 19:00.41 | P_R_Deltoid | Does the debug message display? |
| 19:00.42 | Galois-evariste | now, i'm going back and forth between the two movement triggers to find a similarity and i see absolutely none |
| 19:00.45 | Unrea1 | no |
| 19:00.47 | molsterr | if all 4 memic, someting happens during that function, if only the 2 do it...something else is up |
| 19:00.52 | Cornelius | http://pastebin.com/avQymrLu P_R_Deltoid |
| 19:00.55 | P_R_Deltoid | okay hmm |
| 19:01.00 | P_R_Deltoid | the condition is somehow failing |
| 19:01.18 | P_R_Deltoid | could be that triggering unit doesn't work because the unit is technically no longer in game. |
| 19:01.19 | P_R_Deltoid | but |
| 19:01.22 | molsterr | did you see my step? so much text scrolling |
| 19:01.26 | P_R_Deltoid | I used something similar with dying units and it works perfectly |
| 19:01.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Cornelius, whats up? |
| 19:01.44 | Unrea1 | Dying units? |
| 19:01.52 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, units that die instead of being removed |
| 19:01.59 | P_R_Deltoid | that kinda thing works for htem, but I am not sure about minerals |
| 19:02.04 | Clord | http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/102685730-3.jpg |
| 19:02.06 | Cornelius | doesnt work |
| 19:02.06 | P_R_Deltoid | because their "death" works on a different mechanic |
| 19:02.11 | Unrea1 | Minerals dont die though i dont think |
| 19:02.12 | Galois-evariste | now that makes no sense at all |
| 19:02.13 | Unrea1 | They get removed |
| 19:02.20 | Clord | nice nuke |
| 19:02.20 | Clord | ^^ |
| 19:02.23 | Galois-evariste | every line in the corresponding movement triggers |
| 19:02.25 | P_R_Deltoid | Cornelius, well, the computer never builds units, you create them through triggers, Cornelius |
| 19:02.25 | P_R_Deltoid | so |
| 19:02.29 | Galois-evariste | use the correct unit groups |
| 19:02.36 | Helral | Cornelius: the units hp isn't increased, is that the problem? |
| 19:02.39 | P_R_Deltoid | "Any Unit creates a Unit" and "Owner of Created Unit is Player 5" never fire. |
| 19:02.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Helral, it's okay |
| 19:02.44 | P_R_Deltoid | I got it |
| 19:02.46 | P_R_Deltoid | no problems |
| 19:02.58 | P_R_Deltoid | got the map and everything, I can see the problem pretty easily. |
| 19:03.02 | molsterr | galois |
| 19:03.06 | Helral | P_R_Deltoid: hehehe |
| 19:03.14 | molsterr | did you see my new debug step? |
| 19:03.14 | Cornelius | so.. |
| 19:03.20 | P_R_Deltoid | Helral, they are created through triggers, but he is using an event that triggers from building created units |
| 19:03.22 | P_R_Deltoid | so it never fires |
| 19:03.25 | Galois-evariste | no |
| 19:03.27 | Helral | P_R_Deltoid: another problem if it should be life increase is that he didn't use max life. |
| 19:03.27 | Unrea1 | Removing the condition just to see if it works |
| 19:03.31 | Cornelius | ok so how do i fix it |
| 19:03.50 | P_R_Deltoid | Helral, yeah, editing life always confuses me, but it isn't happening at all, I think |
| 19:03.53 | P_R_Deltoid | which makes it the main problem |
| 19:03.55 | P_R_Deltoid | Cornelius, |
| 19:03.57 | molsterr | ok what you need to do is after the function goes (the one that adds the units to the unit group) manualy add a unit to each group |
| 19:03.58 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec |
| 19:04.01 | molsterr | this way |
| 19:04.08 | molsterr | if all 4 players do the same thing |
| 19:04.20 | P_R_Deltoid | Here, gonna take this into a PM to clear this place a bit, I think it's getting a bit cluttered in here |
| 19:04.25 | molsterr | we know the function is screwed up at some point, if only 2 move |
| 19:04.37 | molsterr | then we know theres an issue with the units being made |
| 19:04.54 | P_R_Deltoid | Unrea1, exactly, hence my saying it's odd that it doesn't work, because for a similar mechanic (death) it works fine |
| 19:04.56 | P_R_Deltoid | so |
| 19:04.58 | Unrea1 | I removed the condition, and i see the debug message but nothing is happening |
| 19:05.01 | molsterr | would also be easier if youd be willing to show a pic of your movement script |
| 19:05.20 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec, Unrea1 |
| 19:07.46 | P_R_Deltoid | Alright, Unrea1, I am gonna try to make what you are talking about real quick |
| 19:07.49 | P_R_Deltoid | and if I get it working |
| 19:07.51 | P_R_Deltoid | I will tell you |
| 19:07.58 | Unrea1 | I can PM u my map |
| 19:08.05 | Unrea1 | If u want to build off of it |
| 19:10.24 | P_R_Deltoid | Unrea1, sure |
| 19:10.29 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 19:10.35 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec, can you email it? |
| 19:10.37 | P_R_Deltoid | DCC hates me |
| 19:10.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Unless you got a dropbox for it |
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| 19:11.48 | Unrea1 | Email |
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| 19:12.13 | Galois-evariste | so |
| 19:12.15 | Unrea1 | Whats ur email |
| 19:12.20 | Galois-evariste | i just finished renaming variables to things like WWAWARWEAEWFWFWF and whatnot |
| 19:12.29 | Galois-evariste | to make it more obvious if these two triggers are overlapping with their variables |
| 19:12.31 | Galois-evariste | and they're not at all |
| 19:12.37 | Galois-evariste | so thje problem cannot be the movement triggers |
| 19:12.42 | Galois-evariste | and its not the unit group declarations |
| 19:12.52 | Galois-evariste | i really don't get it |
| 19:13.37 | Galois-evariste | how could two keyboards |
| 19:13.47 | Galois-evariste | be controlling the same units |
| 19:13.56 | Galois-evariste | if they depend on input from two different users |
| 19:14.04 | Galois-evariste | if like the W key universal? |
| 19:14.17 | Galois-evariste | is there not a player 1 version of the W key? |
| 19:14.38 | Unrea1 | P_R_Deltoid whats ur email :| |
| 19:14.44 | P_R_Deltoid | oh, sorry, hah |
| 19:14.46 | P_R_Deltoid | 1 sec, gonna pm it |
| 19:14.50 | Unrea1 | kk |
| 19:14.54 | Helral | P_R_Deltoid: lol |
| 19:14.58 | P_R_Deltoid | Man |
| 19:15.05 | Helral | P_R_Deltoid: absentminded? XD |
| 19:15.12 | Unrea1 | Sent |
| 19:15.14 | P_R_Deltoid | Helral, still doing that other map, too |
| 19:15.15 | P_R_Deltoid | :> |
| 19:15.19 | P_R_Deltoid | lots of stuff going on! |
| 19:15.26 | P_R_Deltoid | AND absentminded, doesn't help! |
| 19:15.30 | Helral | Galois-evariste: Triggering player is the player who presses the key. |
| 19:15.35 | Helral | XD |
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| 19:15.40 | Helral | true. |
| 19:15.53 | Helral | but you're so eager to help them all :P |
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| 19:16.45 | Galois-evariste | i don't make things depend on a triggering player |
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| 19:17.03 | Demonette | Hi guys |
| 19:17.10 | Helral | meow |
| 19:17.36 | Galois-evariste | that might be it |
| 19:17.40 | P_R_Deltoid | Helral, !!!! what can I say! |
| 19:17.44 | Galois-evariste | maybe its because i didn't add checks to see if the triggering player was 1 or 2 |
| 19:17.47 | Galois-evariste | and so |
| 19:17.49 | Demonette | does anybody know if someone done a female version of an scientist, miner and/or prisioner so far? |
| 19:17.53 | P_R_Deltoid | I live through others imagination |
| 19:17.56 | Galois-evariste | if player 2 presses the W button, it also does ... |
| 19:17.59 | Galois-evariste | but no that can't make sense |
| 19:18.05 | Galois-evariste | the event is this |
| 19:18.07 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.11 | P_R_Deltoid | I have no real drive to do my own projects, but I like doing triggers, so I figure it's a win/win |
| 19:18.17 | Helral | Demonette: well I tried, but I couldn't get them to look like you XD *grins* |
| 19:18.21 | Galois-evariste | why would the owner of the other player's unit activate this event? |
| 19:18.21 | Galois-evariste | that doesn't make sense |
| 19:18.36 | Demonette | You really tried? show me =P |
| 19:18.56 | Helral | Galois-evariste: uhm because when the event is created the variable wasn't filled yet. |
| 19:19.12 | molsterr | yeah |
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| 19:19.15 | Helral | Demonette: I threw away the failure :P it wasn't worth it. |
| 19:19.22 | molsterr | its the same thing with region galois |
| 19:19.32 | Mattavich | Evening fellas |
| 19:19.34 | Demonette | You aren't able to model as far is i know |
| 19:19.34 | molsterr | if you try to make a dynamic region AKA one made by a var |
| 19:19.39 | molsterr | the check will fail |
| 19:19.43 | Demonette | evening! |
| 19:19.49 | molsterr | event calls cant be dynamic in any way |
| 19:19.50 | Helral | Demonette: damn you caught me... it was just a sketch on paper :P |
| 19:20.05 | Helral | use conditions to limit events. |
| 19:20.10 | Demonette | Oh come on someone really tried to do one of them... i'm sure |
| 19:20.20 | Helral | Demonette: someone prolly did. |
| 19:20.22 | Demonette | Haha ^^ paper stuff |
| 19:20.26 | Helral | XD |
| 19:20.32 | Demonette | yey but who? |
| 19:20.34 | molsterr | Galois-evariste you catch that? |
| 19:20.37 | Helral | I'm quite a bad artist. |
| 19:20.38 | Demonette | =P |
| 19:20.45 | Demonette | thats true =P |
| 19:20.48 | Demonette | XD |
| 19:20.53 | Helral | that's why I need you XD |
| 19:20.55 | Demonette | OMG |
| 19:21.10 | Demonette | you start to amuse me oO |
| 19:21.14 | Helral | turns the conversation into a drama story. |
| 19:22.17 | Demonette | how? |
| 19:22.52 | ProzaicMuze | turns the drama story into a comedy |
| 19:22.53 | Helral | XD *searches for his lines in this drama story.... damn where did I place the script* |
| 19:22.55 | ProzaicMuze | "You have a tiny penis, sir" |
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| 19:23.14 | Helral | uhm ProzaicMuze.... that's my little toe.... |
| 19:23.37 | ProzaicMuze | Ewww |
| 19:23.45 | Helral | learn the anatomy of a human body before saying stuff like that. |
| 19:23.53 | Galois-evariste | was in the bathroom |
| 19:23.54 | ProzaicMuze | I don't even want to know how you got your toe to your. . . your. . . |
| 19:23.56 | ProzaicMuze | ewww |
| 19:23.56 | Galois-evariste | plus i lagged out |
| 19:24.03 | Galois-evariste | when the event was created... |
| 19:24.12 | Galois-evariste | so i should turn the trigger on after the teams are sorted |
| 19:24.14 | Galois-evariste | ? |
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| 19:24.20 | Galois-evariste | is that what you're suggesting? |
| 19:24.26 | Helral | Galois-evariste: Events are initiated once at the start of loading the map. |
| 19:24.38 | Galois-evariste | even the ones that aren't map initialization? |
| 19:24.41 | Helral | Galois-evariste: so you need to use conditions if you want to limit the triggers using variables. |
| 19:24.43 | Galois-evariste | that doesn't make much sense to me but i can go with it |
| 19:24.58 | Helral | Galois-evariste: the game needs to know when to run the trigger. that's why. |
| 19:25.10 | Galois-evariste | hey now |
| 19:25.31 | Galois-evariste | are you saying that events are run, only if the initial conditions are met |
| 19:25.33 | Galois-evariste | ? |
| 19:25.46 | Helral | Galois-evariste: only if the initial event is met. |
| 19:26.03 | Galois-evariste | well duh i knew that - how does that help me? |
| 19:26.20 | Helral | the event state after map load is completed, before map init triggers are run. |
| 19:26.32 | Galois-evariste | so you're saying to me |
| 19:26.34 | Galois-evariste | that this event |
| 19:26.36 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.41 | Galois-evariste | is called at the beginning? |
| 19:27.23 | Helral | no what I say is that " UI - Player (Owner of (Unit 1 from Character One)) presses Any key Down with shift Allow, control Allow, alt Allow" becomes " UI - Player (Any Player) presses Any key Down with shift Allow, control Allow, alt Allow" because "Owner of (Unit 1 from Character One)" is invalid at map initialization. |
| 19:27.44 | Galois-evariste | okay that makes sense |
| 19:27.53 | Galois-evariste | but i don't think that it matters here becuase i have conditions on the event |
| 19:28.06 | Galois-evariste | and it is not satisfied by the intial variable values |
| 19:28.10 | Galois-evariste | but that's good to know |
| 19:28.16 | Motive | Hullo. |
| 19:29.24 | Helral | meow |
| 19:29.26 | molsterr | it is tho |
| 19:29.39 | Galois-evariste | i don't get it |
| 19:29.44 | molsterr | that event "confuses" the game, and forces it to go |
| 19:30.00 | molsterr | I Had a similar issue with a dynamic region |
| 19:30.02 | Galois-evariste | but the initial conditions on the event are not met |
| 19:30.16 | Mattavich | Ahhhhh, back to my SC2 editor at last |
| 19:30.16 | Helral | Galois-evariste: what are the conditions that you have then? |
| 19:30.18 | Galois-evariste | so even though it may be called, nothing happens |
| 19:30.27 | Mattavich | I NEED to get this map out of ym system so i can go back to living a normal life |
| 19:30.30 | Galois-evariste | the specific reason why |
| 19:30.33 | molsterr | yeah, what are the conditions |
| 19:30.38 | Galois-evariste | is because the conditions are in an "And" block |
| 19:30.42 | Galois-evariste | and this variable is not false by default: |
| 19:30.55 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.56 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.58 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.00 | Galois-evariste | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.02 | Mattavich | i've been working on my map 10-15 hours per day for 2 weeks now. Soemtimes not going to bed until 6am |
| 19:31.05 | Galois-evariste | by default, In Between Days is true |
| 19:31.13 | Galois-evariste | so the conditions cannot be met |
| 19:31.21 | Helral | Galois-evariste: uhm... those conditions are met when the game runs. |
| 19:31.29 | Galois-evariste | they can't be |
| 19:31.39 | Galois-evariste | because the initial conditions of in between days is true |
| 19:31.44 | Helral | Galois-evariste: the event is initialized (that doesn't mean that the trigger is run) at map creation. |
| 19:31.44 | Galois-evariste | initial value* |
| 19:31.56 | Helral | Galois-evariste: conditions are checked at runtime. |
| 19:32.12 | Helral | Galois-evariste: conditions use current values not initial. |
| 19:32.26 | Galois-evariste | well how silly is that |
| 19:32.35 | Galois-evariste | and even if this were true and the even is run |
| 19:32.47 | Galois-evariste | how would that make it so that any player can use the actions? |
| 19:33.04 | Galois-evariste | are you saying that even though i write that a certain player presses a key, it is now changed to any player? |
| 19:33.13 | Galois-evariste | just because it doesn't make sense at the start? |
| 19:33.19 | Helral | yup. because you used a variable. |
| 19:33.22 | molsterr | it throws it out |
| 19:33.31 | molsterr | it dosnt understand what you told it |
| 19:33.35 | molsterr | so it defualts it |
| 19:33.42 | Galois-evariste | well this fucking editor didn't even do me the courtesy of telling me it was going to throw out my shit on the street |
| 19:34.01 | Galois-evariste | so i'll just turn off the movement triggers and then when the teams are sorted and the units are spawned, i'll turn them back on |
| 19:34.03 | molsterr | its doing what you told it to tho |
| 19:34.06 | Galois-evariste | that should fix it |
| 19:34.17 | molsterr | you told it to check a group thats not there, so it gives a condition thats not there |
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| 19:34.18 | Galois-evariste | yeah yeah garbage in garbage out i know |
| 19:34.25 | molsterr | that wont work |
| 19:34.29 | Galois-evariste | just don't remind me that its garbage |
| 19:34.36 | Galois-evariste | how will that not work |
| 19:34.40 | molsterr | this happens when your script is compiled |
| 19:34.41 | Galois-evariste | the trigger isn't even turned on |
| 19:34.44 | molsterr | not when the trigger is run |
| 19:34.50 | Galois-evariste | wtfuuuuuuuuuuuuck |
| 19:35.00 | molsterr | lol triggers are just functions |
| 19:35.13 | molsterr | they arnt dynamic.. its just script, so events cant be dynamic |
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| 19:35.16 | Galois-evariste | then why bother distinguishing |
| 19:35.20 | Galois-evariste | forget i asked that |
| 19:35.23 | Galois-evariste | because i don't really care atm |
| 19:35.35 | Galois-evariste | i'll just change it to "any player" to be honest and then add player checks throughout |
| 19:35.38 | Galois-evariste | hopefully that will do it |
| 19:35.41 | molsterr | becuase you can do it to perm if you need to dynamicy distinguish you do it in conditions |
| 19:35.46 | molsterr | yeah |
| 19:35.50 | molsterr | thats how you should do it |
| 19:36.02 | RedWraith | Were there any sequences in the campaign |
| 19:36.02 | Galois-evariste | fucking counter-intuitive bullshit |
| 19:36.03 | P_R_Deltoid | Pro |
| 19:36.04 | RedWraith | where a bridge goes up |
| 19:36.05 | P_R_Deltoid | fuck |
| 19:36.06 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, |
| 19:36.09 | RedWraith | or cliffs fall away? |
| 19:36.13 | Galois-evariste | none that i can think of |
| 19:36.18 | Galois-evariste | but you can alter the terrain |
| 19:36.32 | Mattavich | Evening SZJ |
| 19:36.35 | RedWraith | I want to make a hex grid with cliffs and then put up bridges. |
| 19:36.41 | RedWraith | when I control an isalnd |
| 19:37.15 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, i DEMAND ATTTENTION |
| 19:37.16 | P_R_Deltoid | RIGHT NOW! |
| 19:37.30 | Helral | P_R_Deltoid: Access denied. |
| 19:37.33 | Helral | XD |
| 19:37.37 | P_R_Deltoid | NOOOOOO |
| 19:37.38 | P_R_Deltoid | :< |
| 19:37.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Helral, you like the data editor? |
| 19:37.58 | Helral | no, but I might know some stuff :P |
| 19:38.16 | Mattavich | I think if you udnerstand everything in the dataeditor then you could do some amazing things with it |
| 19:38.25 | Mattavich | Then it would be awesome to have |
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| 19:38.36 | Mattavich | Right now, simple stuff makes my head spin |
| 19:38.37 | ProzaicMuze | whhhat!? |
| 19:38.43 | Helral | it lives !!!! |
| 19:39.00 | ProzaicMuze | You're interrupting my Stargate goodness! |
| 19:39.04 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, do you know how one wo uld |
| 19:39.06 | P_R_Deltoid | sorry :< |
| 19:39.07 | P_R_Deltoid | anyways |
| 19:39.17 | Helral | lol |
| 19:39.27 | Mattavich | Fellas, please add me to your SC friend list Mattavich 377 - I will soon be testing a new map I'm creating |
| 19:39.33 | Mattavich | Obelisk Hellfire |
| 19:39.36 | P_R_Deltoid | do you know how one would make it so that when a mineral deposit is mind out, it is replaced with another unit (a non-minable stump) and then a few seconds later, replaced with the mineral node again |
| 19:39.40 | P_R_Deltoid | Think... a tree regrowing |
| 19:39.57 | P_R_Deltoid | That would be possible, correct? Can you detect when minerals are completely mined/removed |
| 19:40.23 | Mattavich | Cany uo detect when the square ti reside son becomes pathable? |
| 19:40.27 | molsterr | thheres a few ways you could do that deltoid. |
| 19:40.42 | ProzaicMuze | Are you wanting to do this with Triggers or Data Editor? |
| 19:40.45 | Vailreth | the mineral node is removed from the game when it has no resources |
| 19:40.45 | Mattavich | When it is pathable, add the new doodad or whatever |
| 19:41.00 | molsterr | doing it with the DE would be x10 easier |
| 19:41.13 | Mattavich | Actors? |
| 19:41.40 | Galois-evariste | just checking |
| 19:41.46 | Galois-evariste | did you guys get the In Between Days thing? |
| 19:41.46 | Unrea1 | http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6406/condition.jpg |
| 19:41.51 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, well |
| 19:41.58 | P_R_Deltoid | minerals are a fickle mistress with triggers |
| 19:42.01 | molsterr | in the actor, simply have it start an effect (creat unit) on the field when its being removed, have that unit (the stump) have a timed beheaver that respawns the field |
| 19:42.04 | P_R_Deltoid | bevcause you can't use "triggering unit" when one is removed |
| 19:42.05 | P_R_Deltoid | soooo |
| 19:42.08 | Galois-evariste | what's up mike |
| 19:42.11 | P_R_Deltoid | the data editor is the next best choice. |
| 19:42.34 | P_R_Deltoid | also, this is gonna be used like a few thousand times, so it'd be better if it was contained in the unit itself |
| 19:42.34 | molsterr | mineral field* |
| 19:42.37 | P_R_Deltoid | and perhaps faster! |
| 19:42.51 | Helral | P_R_Deltoid: shall I try to get a respawning min field to work? XD |
| 19:43.07 | P_R_Deltoid | Helral, it's for Unrea1, fyi, but yeah, if you wanna help |
| 19:43.15 | P_R_Deltoid | Just as an fyi |
| 19:43.26 | ProzaicMuze | I'd suggest unit morphs |
| 19:43.31 | P_R_Deltoid | You have to use "Unit is removed from game" for minerals, and "triggering unit" does not work with it at all |
| 19:43.34 | ProzaicMuze | So that when it dies, it morhps into a stump |
| 19:43.36 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh man, unit morphs |
| 19:43.37 | Helral | I know it's for Unrea1 XD I just wanted to make sure I didn't steal your spotlight XD |
| 19:43.45 | ProzaicMuze | Then morphs into a mineral again after a certain period of time |
| 19:43.46 | P_R_Deltoid | Helral, naw, it's all good |
| 19:43.48 | Vailreth | i would suggest against unit morphs |
| 19:43.49 | P_R_Deltoid | spotlight, pshhh |
| 19:43.51 | P_R_Deltoid | come on now |
| 19:43.54 | Unrea1 | xD |
| 19:43.57 | ProzaicMuze | lol what's wrong with unit morphs, Vail? |
| 19:44.02 | Vailreth | nothing |
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| 19:44.21 | Vailreth | but i think the resource behavoir has the stuff in it for this already |
| 19:44.31 | Mattavich | Can I ask a quick question guys. My map is quite intensive on the triggers. there's a lot f threads running and i've identified that the "unit dies" event becomes clogged when I kill a lot of units at the same time. Is there a better, less thread clogging method of setting up a kill counter and alternative for "unit dies event" |
| 19:44.39 | Mattavich | I'm currently using this script for kill counting |
| 19:44.49 | Mattavich | Unit dies - Kills counter Events Unit - Any Unit dies Local Variables Conditions 1 <= (Owner of (Triggering unit)) <= 8 Actions Variable - Modify Player Kill Counter[(Killing player)]: + 1 |
| 19:44.50 | Vailreth | i will make a quick test |
| 19:45.13 | ProzaicMuze | lol, well |
| 19:45.17 | ProzaicMuze | PR, you've got a lot of options |
| 19:45.33 | ProzaicMuze | That Trigger that was linked earlier, my unit morphs, molsterr's behavior buffs and whatever Vail is making |
| 19:45.34 | Mattavich | I've changed some unit dies events to periodic timers to which check conditions to even out the resource hogging |
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| 19:46.16 | Galois-evariste | fun fact: the modutility voice can say every color in the sc2 player color list except for purple |
| 19:46.20 | Galois-evariste | and voilet |
| 19:46.33 | molsterr | my beheavior idea is about the same as your moprh, but I like the moprh idea better tbh. |
| 19:46.55 | molsterr | but youd still need a beheavior to delay it so it goes to stump back to tree. |
| 19:47.05 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, Unrea1 has a lot of options, you mean. If you get any advances in it, tell him |
| 19:47.11 | P_R_Deltoid | Didn't expect such a response for this |
| 19:47.13 | P_R_Deltoid | woosh |
| 19:47.29 | ProzaicMuze | Oh, that was for him? |
| 19:47.33 | P_R_Deltoid | and it seems people are gonna help, so I am gonna switch gears to something else that I am good at |
| 19:47.34 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, ProzaicMuze |
| 19:47.53 | molsterr | ive done NOTHING today but help people in the forums today... holy crap need to work on m map |
| 19:47.55 | P_R_Deltoid | he was having trouble with triggers, because Triggering Unit doesn't work. Seems easier to do it the data editor route, I imagine. |
| 19:48.13 | ProzaicMuze | And you don't need the behavior's, actually |
| 19:48.15 | ProzaicMuze | Just a chain of morphs |
| 19:48.21 | ProzaicMuze | One morph to turn into stump |
| 19:48.26 | ProzaicMuze | and then immediately morph into minerals |
| 19:48.31 | ProzaicMuze | Since you can set the duration of the morph, that's your timer. |
| 19:48.33 | molsterr | OHH thats riht |
| 19:48.35 | molsterr | yeah |
| 19:48.40 | molsterr | I forgot about the duration on the morph |
| 19:48.43 | ProzaicMuze | :) |
| 19:48.53 | molsterr | I JUST did my first morph last night =D |
| 19:48.56 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 19:49.15 | molsterr | made a rather fun ability with it actully |
| 19:49.26 | Mattavich | The "pick each playe rin active players" trigger - if someone is defeated, will pick playe rin active players still include the dead player? |
| 19:49.28 | Unrea1 | So when the mineral is depleted then morph the unit into w/e |
| 19:49.57 | molsterr | if they are deafeated, and have the defeat box open, it should not include them |
| 19:50.02 | molsterr | err |
| 19:50.12 | molsterr | activate layers might, but there is a "player is playing |
| 19:50.31 | Mattavich | Ok, thanks. I have a playergroup so i may just change to playergroup variable instead |
| 19:50.37 | Mattavich | then remove them form playergroup when defeated |
| 19:50.38 | molsterr | so if it does inclide them, just do a Condition (if Picked player Is player == true_ |
| 19:50.54 | molsterr | playing* |
| 19:51.07 | Mattavich | Did anyone see my unit dies event question? |
| 19:51.13 | molsterr | i did not |
| 19:51.17 | molsterr | wait |
| 19:51.18 | molsterr | yes i did |
| 19:51.21 | molsterr | and no i dont know |
| 19:51.24 | molsterr | thats what I use |
| 19:52.00 | Mattavich | Right now I worked out that when a squd of unit sin my map (60) die, the unit dies event is triggered 660 times |
| 19:52.23 | Mattavich | this is because it is always "any unit" dies. Maybe if it was more specific it would work but unit type doesn't come into it |
| 19:52.25 | molsterr | wait, 60 die? and its fired 660 times? |
| 19:52.39 | Mattavich | I've cut back and there is still 11 unit dies event son my map |
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| 19:52.55 | ProzaicMuze | Oh no! Goa'Uld Adria! We're doomed! |
| 19:52.56 | Mattavich | some are only for observers yet they will trigger when i nuke marines |
| 19:53.06 | Mattavich | so inefficient |
| 19:53.20 | Mattavich | I'm now forced to make periodic timers to even out the load |
| 19:53.30 | Mattavich | and makes checks on units to see if they are there |
| 19:53.35 | molsterr | why dont you just make one big unit dies trigger? |
| 19:53.41 | molsterr | with if then else in them? |
| 19:53.42 | Mattavich | Too many complexities |
| 19:53.57 | molsterr | you can just use the - to condince i, and add comments |
| 19:54.02 | molsterr | it* |
| 19:54.13 | Mattavich | What do you mean "-"? |
| 19:54.57 | Mattavich | hmmm actually, so you mean any triggers, even if it is for a totally different mechanism/unit |
| 19:55.03 | Mattavich | if it uses the unit dies event |
| 19:55.08 | Mattavich | then place them all in a very long trigger? |
| 19:55.30 | Mattavich | Do you think that would work? |
| 19:55.45 | Mattavich | I guess it would since it only calls the unit dies once |
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| 19:56.06 | SweetZombieJesus | i need some input |
| 19:56.07 | SweetZombieJesus | http://picpaste.com/Screenshot2010-08-15_21_53_46.jpg |
| 19:56.09 | corbo | Hi |
| 19:56.11 | SweetZombieJesus | that red cube thing |
| 19:56.12 | Mattavich | How do I get the debug trigger screen up while im actually testing the map? is there a performance/threads counter or somehting? |
| 19:56.19 | SweetZombieJesus | is the idicator that the hero is unavailable |
| 19:56.23 | SweetZombieJesus | but its ugly |
| 19:56.33 | SweetZombieJesus | help me find a model that i can use instead |
| 19:56.41 | molsterr | mattavich |
| 19:56.49 | molsterr | under File>prefrenses |
| 19:56.54 | corbo | why don't you just change the tint of the model color? |
| 19:56.55 | corbo | to red |
| 19:56.57 | molsterr | click the "Play in wdinow" |
| 19:57.04 | SweetZombieJesus | to what? |
| 19:57.07 | corbo | to red? |
| 19:57.10 | molsterr | then a new check box option is there to how debug |
| 19:57.13 | SweetZombieJesus | it is red |
| 19:57.16 | SweetZombieJesus | oh themodel |
| 19:57.17 | corbo | no |
| 19:57.19 | corbo | I don't |
| 19:57.19 | corbo | ya |
| 19:57.22 | corbo | you get it now |
| 19:57.27 | P_R_Deltoid | Whoa, a red cube |
| 19:57.28 | SweetZombieJesus | well |
| 19:57.31 | P_R_Deltoid | jesus christ watch out |
| 19:57.35 | SweetZombieJesus | >_> |
| 19:57.37 | corbo | redish dark color |
| 19:57.38 | SweetZombieJesus | ill try |
| 19:57.41 | P_R_Deltoid | gelatinous cube is dissolving that poor immortal |
| 19:57.41 | corbo | would be awesome |
| 19:57.51 | P_R_Deltoid | his weapons... they are suffering durability damage |
| 19:57.53 | P_R_Deltoid | oh the humanity |
| 19:57.59 | SweetZombieJesus | you done? :P |
| 19:58.01 | P_R_Deltoid | Naw |
| 19:58.04 | P_R_Deltoid | never done ! |
| 19:58.05 | arturusfury | Why don't you use the ShapeX Model? |
| 19:58.19 | P_R_Deltoid | you should use a gigantic cross |
| 19:58.22 | SweetZombieJesus | because it faces up |
| 19:58.24 | P_R_Deltoid | the universal symbol for "No" |
| 19:58.30 | SweetZombieJesus | and i cant change rotation with only trigger |
| 19:58.34 | P_R_Deltoid | Doesn't need to be a model, make a dialog on-screen! |
| 19:58.36 | SweetZombieJesus | so what instead of a cross |
| 19:58.40 | SweetZombieJesus | i see a dash |
| 19:58.47 | P_R_Deltoid | a dash? |
| 19:58.48 | P_R_Deltoid | what? |
| 19:58.52 | SweetZombieJesus | no P_R_Deltoid thats super ugly cause it wouldnt be in the world |
| 19:58.54 | P_R_Deltoid | the circle cross |
| 19:58.55 | SweetZombieJesus | you know |
| 19:58.57 | SweetZombieJesus | the cross |
| 19:59.01 | SweetZombieJesus | you can only see the side of it |
| 19:59.07 | SweetZombieJesus | makes it look like a - |
| 19:59.07 | P_R_Deltoid | Naw, it's work quite well, even better because it's not in the world |
| 19:59.11 | P_R_Deltoid | it's just be straight over him |
| 19:59.12 | SweetZombieJesus | no |
| 19:59.14 | SweetZombieJesus | thats UGLY |
| 19:59.15 | SweetZombieJesus | because |
| 19:59.15 | P_R_Deltoid | YEP |
| 19:59.17 | SweetZombieJesus | if i rotate |
| 19:59.18 | P_R_Deltoid | COOL YOU MEAN |
| 19:59.19 | SweetZombieJesus | it would appear |
| 19:59.29 | SweetZombieJesus | no i refuse |
| 19:59.30 | P_R_Deltoid | well, you remove it when you start rotating |
| 19:59.31 | SweetZombieJesus | must be a model |
| 19:59.35 | P_R_Deltoid | until you get back to an unpickable unit |
| 19:59.38 | P_R_Deltoid | then you show the cross again |
| 19:59.50 | SweetZombieJesus | yes and isnt it prettier if that model would properly be there |
| 19:59.55 | SweetZombieJesus | when you rotate towards it you can see it |
| 20:00.30 | Mattavich | Performance wise, what is better. To use the "pick each player" function OR to use if-then-else statements for each player in the same trigger? |
| 20:01.21 | SweetZombieJesus | http://picpaste.com/Screenshot2010-08-15_22_00_58.jpg |
| 20:01.22 | SweetZombieJesus | hows that? |
| 20:01.31 | Mattavich | Better |
| 20:01.31 | Mattavich | but |
| 20:01.34 | P_R_Deltoid | that is cool |
| 20:01.36 | P_R_Deltoid | but uh |
| 20:01.38 | Mattavich | maybe just use a very black mask instead |
| 20:01.39 | P_R_Deltoid | needs a cross |
| 20:01.43 | SweetZombieJesus | you be quiet |
| 20:01.48 | P_R_Deltoid | sorry |
| 20:01.48 | Mattavich | So you cant quite see the model |
| 20:01.48 | P_R_Deltoid | :< |
| 20:01.51 | Mattavich | lol |
| 20:01.55 | P_R_Deltoid | keep em guesing |
| 20:01.57 | P_R_Deltoid | erm, guessing |
| 20:02.02 | P_R_Deltoid | you know what you could od? Make a gigantic cross model |
| 20:02.06 | P_R_Deltoid | that'd own |
| 20:02.07 | arturusfury | just set the model to cloak |
| 20:02.12 | SweetZombieJesus | lol i made it black |
| 20:02.21 | SweetZombieJesus | you cant see the part above the horizon |
| 20:02.24 | SweetZombieJesus | since the sky is black |
| 20:02.52 | Vailreth | well i am testing my theory for a regenerating |
| 20:02.58 | Vailreth | mineral field |
| 20:04.04 | Unrea1 | Regenerating Mineral field? |
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| 20:04.21 | Mattavich | Is there anyway to add a slight glow to the edge of the unit? lol |
| 20:04.32 | SweetZombieJesus | yes |
| 20:04.37 | SweetZombieJesus | http://picpaste.com/Screenshot2010-08-15_22_00_58.jpg |
| 20:04.39 | SweetZombieJesus | asegseh |
| 20:04.39 | SweetZombieJesus | no |
| 20:04.44 | SweetZombieJesus | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.44 | SweetZombieJesus | that |
| 20:04.47 | arturusfury | theres a halo effect |
| 20:05.01 | SweetZombieJesus | my 'secret' heroes get that effect |
| 20:05.06 | SweetZombieJesus | if you add a unit, set flag to secret |
| 20:05.08 | Mattavich | Put to marines guarding the hero haha |
| 20:05.13 | SweetZombieJesus | they cant be selected except with random |
| 20:05.15 | Mattavich | two* |
| 20:05.15 | Vailreth | yes a mineral field that once depleated will leave a husk and that husk will regenerate into a useable mineral field |
| 20:05.22 | Mattavich | oh that's cool |
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| 20:05.36 | Gao | Hello, and sorry to bother everyone, but I have a quick question: I accidentally made my map too small. Is there a way to change the playable bounds? |
| 20:05.44 | Unrea1 | That is what im attempting to do with trees |
| 20:05.52 | SweetZombieJesus | at Map -> Map Bounds |
| 20:05.57 | SweetZombieJesus | be careful though |
| 20:05.58 | SweetZombieJesus | save first |
| 20:06.25 | Gao | What can happen? |
| 20:06.32 | SweetZombieJesus | you can lose stuff |
| 20:06.35 | SweetZombieJesus | that you placed |
| 20:06.43 | Unrea1 | Vailreth did you getting working? |
| 20:07.06 | Vailreth | dont know yet im still mining out 1 mineral field |
| 20:07.35 | Gao | I tried that and nothing happened. |
| 20:07.44 | rrowland | What's an m3h file? |
| 20:07.49 | Gao | I clicked the arrows and made the diagram-thing bigger, but the actual map didn't change. |
| 20:07.57 | SweetZombieJesus | set it to increase map bounds |
| 20:07.58 | SweetZombieJesus | not camera |
| 20:08.30 | Gao | Oh, perfect! Thank you. |
| 20:08.35 | SweetZombieJesus | np |
| 20:08.50 | molsterr | the only thing I dont like about halostart is the white color |
| 20:08.52 | Mattavich | SZJ I narrowed the too many threads problem to my unit dies event triggers. I calculated 660 threads are created when a full group of 60 units gets nuked |
| 20:08.59 | Mattavich | i've worke dout how to break ti down a lot now |
| 20:09.10 | SweetZombieJesus | yea and now image 8 palyers |
| 20:09.11 | SweetZombieJesus | all nuking |
| 20:09.13 | SweetZombieJesus | at the same time |
| 20:09.37 | molsterr | OHH wait |
| 20:09.43 | SweetZombieJesus | ha got something cool |
| 20:09.44 | molsterr | wait on the wait |
| 20:09.47 | molsterr | nvm the wait |
| 20:10.04 | Mattavich | Ok, I won't wai ton the wait |
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| 20:10.17 | SweetZombieJesus | check it out |
| 20:10.22 | SweetZombieJesus | http://picpaste.com/Screenshot2010-08-15_22_09_56.jpg |
| 20:10.22 | SweetZombieJesus | :D |
| 20:10.35 | Mattavich | LOL place a note next to it "DEAD" |
| 20:10.39 | SweetZombieJesus | :D |
| 20:10.42 | Mattavich | This hero died in battle and can not be selected |
| 20:10.45 | SweetZombieJesus | yea mayeb i can do somehting with that |
| 20:11.11 | Mattavich | I just have an ephiphony |
| 20:11.25 | Unrea1 | http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3585/treesr.jpg |
| 20:11.33 | Mattavich | Is there anyway to add APIs to a map to collect stats on users of your map? |
| 20:11.35 | Unrea1 | I think that model looks better :D |
| 20:11.40 | Mattavich | submit them to your own server and record? |
| 20:11.50 | SweetZombieJesus | dunno |
| 20:11.54 | SweetZombieJesus | think you can use banks to save stuff |
| 20:12.17 | molsterr | you can do what debates does |
| 20:12.18 | Mattavich | For your hero lib can you image map makers being able to show stats on the most selected heros |
| 20:12.24 | Mattavich | now that's wouold be tkaing it to the next level |
| 20:12.27 | molsterr | you cant connect to any database which is horrabad |
| 20:12.40 | molsterr | debates uses banks, and when uses join the banks sync with all the scores |
| 20:12.45 | molsterr | the OTHER workaround |
| 20:12.57 | molsterr | is in dialogs, theres an option for flash files |
| 20:13.02 | vjeux | excellent Unrea1 :) |
| 20:13.04 | molsterr | if someone can figure out how to run those |
| 20:13.08 | molsterr | we ca connect to a database |
| 20:13.19 | molsterr | but as of riht now, it seems as if its a protected function even tho it dosnt say so |
| 20:13.20 | corbo | dear god... |
| 20:13.41 | vjeux | oh yeah |
| 20:13.46 | vjeux | maybe they doesn't protect their flash files |
| 20:13.48 | Mattavich | Would be a great update to be able to submit simple string data to a server and display it on your website |
| 20:14.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster lotharscm (45f4d0a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.244.208.160) |
| 20:14.19 | moshewe | matta |
| 20:14.31 | moshewe | there's no kind of web communication from within SC2 |
| 20:14.33 | moshewe | BUT |
| 20:14.38 | molsterr | well, the flash file function dosnt say its proetced like other blizzard functions, it even gives in great detial how to use it |
| 20:14.41 | moshewe | you can save things to bank fiels and upload them anywhere you want |
| 20:15.02 | molsterr | but theres a error it gives about one of the sub functions not being authorized or something of the sort |
| 20:15.10 | Mattavich | I will look into it ocne my map is complete and see what can be done |
| 20:15.16 | molsterr | theres even a function that calls a method within th flash file |
| 20:15.28 | molsterr | the possibilities would be endless |
| 20:15.28 | Mattavich | There's no point breaking protection though, blizz will jsut delete your map |
| 20:16.05 | Mattavich | what about map recordings |
| 20:16.11 | molsterr | Trigger error in 'gt_mapinit_Func: calling 'DialogControlSetPropertyAsString' is not authorized |
| 20:16.28 | Mattavich | dont they hold info like kills and things, scores? |
| 20:16.40 | molsterr | they do |
| 20:17.22 | molsterr | the best option rigt now, is just to do what debates does with the banks sadly =/ |
| 20:17.38 | moshewe | how do i create a library? |
| 20:17.44 | moshewe | i have a bunch of Galaxy code written |
| 20:17.47 | moshewe | and i wanna export it as a lib |
| 20:18.03 | SweetZombieJesus | fuck me |
| 20:18.05 | moshewe | i can't export it from a normal map project |
| 20:18.09 | SweetZombieJesus | my library is fucking sexy |
| 20:18.18 | moshewe | with a big rubber dildo? |
| 20:18.21 | SweetZombieJesus | i just made him red and freeze |
| 20:18.28 | SweetZombieJesus | and the light turned off |
| 20:18.30 | Mattavich | :p |
| 20:18.30 | SweetZombieJesus | looks great |
| 20:18.46 | SweetZombieJesus | now if only blizzard would get their act together and fix the editor |
| 20:18.47 | corbo | hey |
| 20:18.48 | SweetZombieJesus | too many bugs |
| 20:18.52 | SweetZombieJesus | so many things i cant do |
| 20:19.02 | SweetZombieJesus | no event no preset options no hint texts |
| 20:19.07 | molsterr | pff |
| 20:19.23 | molsterr | sweetzomvie, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IF YOU BELIEVE IN YOURSELF.....=/ |
| 20:19.28 | SweetZombieJesus | go away |
| 20:19.45 | molsterr | haha |
| 20:19.52 | Helral | Unrea1: do you still need that mineral reset stuff? |
| 20:19.56 | Unrea1 | Yes |
| 20:20.05 | Vailreth | ok P_R_Deltoid are you still here ? |
| 20:20.15 | Helral | Unrea1: ok I've got it working. |
| 20:20.23 | Unrea1 | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GE CRASHED |
| 20:20.40 | molsterr | o.0 |
| 20:20.41 | Unrea1 | Do you have a map you could send me |
| 20:20.45 | P_R_Deltoid | Vailreth, yeah |
| 20:20.47 | P_R_Deltoid | whjats up |
| 20:20.49 | Helral | Unrea1: yup. |
| 20:21.03 | Vailreth | do you still need that mineral restore stuff? |
| 20:21.09 | Unrea1 | PM me on mapster :) |
| 20:21.18 | P_R_Deltoid | Vailreth, it is for Unrea1, and apparently Helral has made an example that works. |
| 20:21.22 | Helral | I can pm you in here :P |
| 20:21.27 | P_R_Deltoid | sooo |
| 20:21.27 | Unrea1 | kk |
| 20:21.28 | P_R_Deltoid | I dunno |
| 20:21.35 | P_R_Deltoid | depends on if Helral is telling the truth! |
| 20:21.41 | Helral | or just list it in the chat if other people want to see it as well. |
| 20:21.52 | Vailreth | helral how did you achieve the effect? |
| 20:22.05 | P_R_Deltoid | If he posts it here, we'll all know! |
| 20:22.12 | Unrea1 | Dont question Helral hes god in mapster form |
| 20:22.16 | Helral | I let the mineral replace himself on depletion with another unit. (see mineral behavior) |
| 20:22.28 | Vailreth | ah |
| 20:22.42 | Helral | and the replaced unit has a buff that expires after x seconds that triggers an issue order to morph the other unit back into a mineral field. |
| 20:22.49 | ProzaicMuze | Gah |
| 20:22.55 | Unrea1 | Thats intense |
| 20:22.56 | ProzaicMuze | The one thing I hated about the SG1 series |
| 20:23.00 | ProzaicMuze | ALL of earth's allies died |
| 20:23.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster EternalWraith (c636cab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.54.202.182) |
| 20:23.14 | ProzaicMuze | Now teh Asgard get to die :( |
| 20:23.31 | Vailreth | i think i have an easier way |
| 20:23.49 | Helral | really? Mine is completely done in the data editor :P |
| 20:24.15 | Helral | http://www.4shared.com/file/_O0i_vPA/Mineral_Refill_test.html |
| 20:24.21 | Helral | there's the map I used. |
| 20:24.28 | Reactorex | Asgard? |
| 20:24.40 | Reactorex | They're taking the hobbits to Isengard! |
| 20:24.41 | Vailreth | create a buff with an effect that restores the mineral field and a validator so it only restores at full depeleation and the uncheck the remove on depletion |
| 20:24.56 | Unrea1 | This is probably the best 20 second wait ever |
| 20:25.12 | Helral | Vailreth: one problem that I found with that. |
| 20:25.29 | Helral | Vailreth: the mineral field looses the resource behavior. |
| 20:25.43 | Vailreth | i havent had that problem |
| 20:25.44 | molsterr | you can make it even easier than that tho, as proz potined out, just instanlty use the morph effect, as it has a duration built in |
| 20:25.48 | Bibendus|AFK | mmm |
| 20:25.48 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 6 hours 34 minutes 54 seconds |
| 20:25.55 | Helral | and how do you show the dead tree that Unrea1 wanted? |
| 20:26.00 | Galois-evariste | alright |
| 20:26.04 | Galois-evariste | so molsterr |
| 20:26.05 | Bibendus | is there somewere a good 3rd person camera tutorial |
| 20:26.07 | Galois-evariste | your idea was right |
| 20:26.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@c-76-126-227-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:26.10 | Galois-evariste | and now it works out fine |
| 20:26.10 | molsterr | hey galois |
| 20:26.15 | Unrea1 | Wait what |
| 20:26.17 | molsterr | thats great news |
| 20:26.19 | Galois-evariste | do you want to play the map with me? |
| 20:26.21 | Bibendus | that doesn't pan camera |
| 20:26.25 | Galois-evariste | i'd like to show you what you helped me with |
| 20:26.28 | P_R_Deltoid | Pan the camera..? |
| 20:26.32 | Bibendus | y |
| 20:26.35 | P_R_Deltoid | what do you mean |
| 20:26.38 | Bibendus | u see the laggy camera moving |
| 20:26.41 | molsterr | id love to, but my current computer does not have sc2 installed. |
| 20:26.46 | Galois-evariste | oh well |
| 20:26.46 | Bibendus | cause its moved |
| 20:26.49 | Galois-evariste | i can stream myself playing on it |
| 20:26.50 | Galois-evariste | and you can watch |
| 20:26.52 | Galois-evariste | that's the next best thing |
| 20:26.56 | Vailreth | what sort of dead tree? like stumps? |
| 20:27.01 | molsterr | haha, send a link |
| 20:27.06 | Unrea1 | Yeah stumps |
| 20:27.15 | Galois-evariste | my stream link: http://www.justin.tv/wandererr |
| 20:27.18 | Galois-evariste | i'll turn it on in a minute here |
| 20:27.22 | Galois-evariste | i need to find osmeone to play my map with |
| 20:27.24 | SweetZombieJesus | forums are odd |
| 20:27.29 | Galois-evariste | one man shows aren't fun |
| 20:27.30 | molsterr | what program do you use to stream / |
| 20:27.35 | SweetZombieJesus | why do signatures something appears and sometimes dont? |
| 20:27.37 | Galois-evariste | i use several |
| 20:27.40 | Galois-evariste | yo jesus |
| 20:27.40 | Vailreth | let me check something |
| 20:27.45 | SweetZombieJesus | hey |
| 20:27.46 | Galois-evariste | do you want to play my map with me to show molsterr what he helped me fix? |
| 20:27.47 | molsterr | They only appear the first time the user posts |
| 20:27.49 | molsterr | in that thread |
| 20:27.58 | molsterr | signatures that is |
| 20:28.03 | SweetZombieJesus | nah it appears randomly |
| 20:28.06 | Galois-evariste | it'll only take a minute or two |
| 20:28.06 | SweetZombieJesus | some do appear |
| 20:28.17 | Cornelius | where can i get a good free program to convert to .tga format for pics |
| 20:28.17 | Sixen | Nice libHero stuff, Zombie |
| 20:28.20 | SweetZombieJesus | oh the first time per page |
| 20:28.25 | SweetZombieJesus | thanks |
| 20:28.31 | molsterr | yeah |
| 20:28.32 | Helral | SweetZombieJesus: check your signature setting for when you see them. you can alter that in your settings on the site. |
| 20:28.37 | Galois-evariste | well jesus is busy |
| 20:28.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster Coolflip (~coolflips@c-71-56-255-247.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 20:28.43 | Coolflip | Herro |
| 20:28.44 | SweetZombieJesus | aalright |
| 20:28.45 | Galois-evariste | does anyone want to help me demonstrate the map molsterr helped me fix just now? |
| 20:29.04 | molsterr | howdy sixen |
| 20:29.18 | SweetZombieJesus | you mean beta test Galois-evariste ? ^^ |
| 20:29.19 | Coolflip | Is there a way to call the units current life in a trigger? |
| 20:29.22 | SweetZombieJesus | cause them in im |
| 20:29.26 | SweetZombieJesus | im in* |
| 20:29.28 | Galois-evariste | not really a test because everything works 100% |
| 20:29.35 | Helral | Coolflip: Real value --> Unit Property |
| 20:29.35 | Galois-evariste | i just haven't released it |
| 20:29.36 | Coolflip | Ill help anyone test whatever |
| 20:29.38 | Galois-evariste | because i want to find other stuff to add to it |
| 20:29.42 | SweetZombieJesus | ok well ill help |
| 20:29.43 | SweetZombieJesus | eu? |
| 20:29.48 | Coolflip | Isnt that how to set it? |
| 20:29.50 | Galois-evariste | us =( |
| 20:29.51 | Galois-evariste | are you only eu? |
| 20:29.52 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 20:29.53 | Coolflip | im US |
| 20:29.54 | P_R_Deltoid | "call it" |
| 20:29.56 | P_R_Deltoid | what does that mean |
| 20:29.59 | SweetZombieJesus | only? how can i be more? |
| 20:30.00 | Coolflip | oh durr |
| 20:30.01 | Galois-evariste | awesome flip we can do something |
| 20:30.05 | Coolflip | yeah |
| 20:30.08 | Coolflip | Coolflip.902 |
| 20:30.11 | Coolflip | Ill be on in a tic |
| 20:30.17 | Galois-evariste | right |
| 20:30.23 | P_R_Deltoid | Coolflip, what do you mean by "call it" |
| 20:30.24 | Helral | Coolflip: Set UnitLife (Real) = Unit Property (Triggering Unit) (Life) |
| 20:30.24 | P_R_Deltoid | :| |
| 20:30.49 | Helral | and I think there was another value there as well. |
| 20:30.55 | Coolflip | He fixed it for me |
| 20:30.56 | Helral | something like current or default. |
| 20:31.00 | Coolflip | i was just to dumb to think straight |
| 20:31.08 | Vailreth | do thet trees have a stump animation, if they do you could do with them like the mineral field does and have diffrent variations |
| 20:31.12 | Coolflip | I used the unit property in the first half of the trigger but forgot i could use it again |
| 20:31.13 | Coolflip | hah |
| 20:31.21 | Bibendus | sigh all those fps tutorials suckz |
| 20:31.31 | Galois-evariste | bibendus do what i did |
| 20:31.34 | P_R_Deltoid | Bibendus, there was one specifically for fps on mapster... I thought |
| 20:31.35 | Galois-evariste | just figure it out for yourself |
| 20:31.38 | Galois-evariste | i did and now i've got one done |
| 20:31.39 | Bibendus | oh thanks |
| 20:31.41 | Bibendus | for your help |
| 20:31.42 | Bibendus | lol :V |
| 20:31.45 | Galois-evariste | i'm serious man |
| 20:31.49 | Galois-evariste | i'm not trying to be a dick |
| 20:31.55 | Galois-evariste | i seriously sat down and tried to figure it out |
| 20:32.00 | Bibendus | so won't u say it? |
| 20:32.01 | Galois-evariste | you can watch on my stream what i just finished making |
| 20:32.08 | Galois-evariste | i started on it 3 days ago |
| 20:32.08 | Coolflip | Ok |
| 20:32.10 | P_R_Deltoid | one sec |
| 20:32.10 | Coolflip | Ima get on |
| 20:32.13 | Galois-evariste | bibendus go here |
| 20:32.15 | Galois-evariste | http://www.justin.tv/wandererr |
| 20:32.20 | Galois-evariste | wait for me to turn the stream on |
| 20:32.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster WAR (43b99d58@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.185.157.88) |
| 20:32.22 | Galois-evariste | i'll s how you |
| 20:32.33 | Bibendus | offline |
| 20:32.34 | Bibendus | :V |
| 20:32.36 | Bibendus | oh |
| 20:32.38 | Galois-evariste | thats why i said |
| 20:32.38 | Bibendus | k |
| 20:32.41 | Galois-evariste | yeah |
| 20:32.42 | Bibendus | i wasnt reading |
| 20:32.44 | Bibendus | but looking the site |
| 20:32.45 | Bibendus | :V |
| 20:33.21 | Helral | meow |
| 20:33.23 | P_R_Deltoid | Bibendus, why don't you just use a camera from one of the fps templates. |
| 20:33.28 | P_R_Deltoid | some of them were pretty non-jittery |
| 20:33.35 | Bibendus | what fps templates |
| 20:33.45 | P_R_Deltoid | there are quite a few but... |
| 20:33.49 | P_R_Deltoid | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/g-3pshooter/ |
| 20:33.53 | P_R_Deltoid | not sure how smooth this one is |
| 20:33.55 | P_R_Deltoid | but |
| 20:34.02 | P_R_Deltoid | it has an over the shoulder camera |
| 20:34.04 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/backlits-fps-engine-beta/. Backlit's FPS Engine [BETA]. BacklitAvenger (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Sixen. |
| 20:34.05 | molsterr | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/7277-third-person-shooter-tps-engine-download-if-you-need/#posts |
| 20:34.08 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/wheres-waldo/. Where's Waldo?. LordFelco (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Sixen. |
| 20:34.11 | Bibendus | letz download and test |
| 20:34.15 | molsterr | they jsut released that one.... its super nice |
| 20:34.16 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/post-apocoliptia/. Post Apocoliptia. Carsonjudd (Manager/Author). Approved by Sixen. |
| 20:34.27 | Helral | oooohhhh Where's Waldo XD |
| 20:34.36 | P_R_Deltoid | there are like 50 3rd person camera tutorials, what is wrong with the m? |
| 20:34.58 | P_R_Deltoid | Nice background story for that one |
| 20:35.02 | P_R_Deltoid | Cameron Waldo |
| 20:35.14 | P_R_Deltoid | World renowned spy |
| 20:35.30 | Galois-evariste | uploading now |
| 20:35.33 | Galois-evariste | i'll start my stream now |
| 20:35.34 | Galois-evariste | sec |
| 20:35.50 | Coolflip | I think your sc2 crashed |
| 20:35.51 | Coolflip | heh |
| 20:35.53 | Bibendus | not smooth |
| 20:36.04 | Bibendus | omg thousand of triggers run each second |
| 20:36.04 | Bibendus | :V |
| 20:36.08 | molsterr | bid http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/7277-third-person-shooter-tps-engine-download-if-you-need/#posts |
| 20:36.12 | Bibendus | deltoid |
| 20:36.13 | molsterr | that one is smooth |
| 20:36.14 | Bibendus | they are not smooth |
| 20:36.16 | Galois-evariste | ok |
| 20:36.17 | Galois-evariste | stream is live guys |
| 20:36.19 | Galois-evariste | http://www.justin.tv/wandererr |
| 20:36.23 | Galois-evariste | go there if you want to see the map molsterr helped me finish |
| 20:36.40 | Galois-evariste | are you watching molsterr? |
| 20:36.41 | Mattavich | Quick question. If I have 2 seperate triggers and I use "pick ehac player" in one trigger is there anyway I can get that "picked player" selection to work in another trigger? |
| 20:36.46 | Bibendus | y |
| 20:36.47 | Bibendus | watching |
| 20:37.10 | molsterr | what steaming program is that your using? |
| 20:37.15 | *** join/#sc2mapster oldschool01 (62a4fa8f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.164.250.143) |
| 20:37.23 | Galois-evariste | adobe fmle |
| 20:37.28 | Galois-evariste | so you're watching molsterr? |
| 20:37.35 | ProzaicMuze | streaming is for losers |
| 20:37.42 | P_R_Deltoid | Streaming... program? |
| 20:37.43 | P_R_Deltoid | oh |
| 20:37.44 | ProzaicMuze | Wait, why do I bother |
| 20:37.48 | molsterr | yeah, and im impressed with the text quaily of the stream lol |
| 20:37.48 | ProzaicMuze | You can't even see what I type rofl |
| 20:37.52 | P_R_Deltoid | you are talking to Galois-evariste ? |
| 20:37.55 | molsterr | he can |
| 20:37.59 | ProzaicMuze | He can't see what I type |
| 20:38.03 | Bibendus | molster |
| 20:38.05 | Galois-evariste | =) |
| 20:38.06 | Bibendus | watch the stream |
| 20:38.07 | P_R_Deltoid | yeahh, that guy |
| 20:38.07 | ProzaicMuze | he muted/ignored me a while ago |
| 20:38.08 | Bibendus | hes waiting for u |
| 20:38.09 | P_R_Deltoid | oh that guy |
| 20:38.10 | Galois-evariste | i stream myself using the editor |
| 20:38.18 | P_R_Deltoid | in any case |
| 20:38.19 | Galois-evariste | so people can read my triggers and learn |
| 20:38.20 | P_R_Deltoid | Flash Media Encoder |
| 20:38.21 | P_R_Deltoid | fyi |
| 20:38.21 | Galois-evariste | or whatever |
| 20:38.32 | P_R_Deltoid | the cli version is much less memory intense |
| 20:38.38 | P_R_Deltoid | so you can stream higher bitrates if your internet allows |
| 20:38.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster molster (6255092a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.85.9.42) |
| 20:38.42 | Coolflip | lets start |
| 20:38.53 | Bibendus | dust2 |
| 20:38.54 | Bibendus | lolz |
| 20:38.57 | molster | im ready |
| 20:38.58 | Galois-evariste | =) |
| 20:39.00 | molster | you dont gata wait for me |
| 20:39.01 | Galois-evariste | alright lets go |
| 20:39.04 | Galois-evariste | yes i do |
| 20:39.06 | Galois-evariste | you helped |
| 20:39.17 | molster | i mean im here lol so you ont lol |
| 20:39.25 | ProzaicMuze | CS is ghey |
| 20:39.38 | Helral | ProzaicMuze: grey? |
| 20:39.42 | ProzaicMuze | ghey |
| 20:39.44 | ProzaicMuze | ghey ghey ghey |
| 20:39.57 | Helral | ProzaicMuze that's what I typed.... grey... |
| 20:39.57 | corbo | I never could get flash media encoder |
| 20:40.01 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 20:40.03 | corbo | I used the windows encored thing |
| 20:40.13 | corbo | now I just use livestream + procaster |
| 20:40.29 | Bibendus | i dont understand |
| 20:40.30 | Tinman | livestream sucks though... |
| 20:40.33 | Bibendus | if it's laggy for triggers |
| 20:40.36 | Tinman | oh! I am here! |
| 20:40.38 | corbo | No it doesn't |
| 20:40.41 | corbo | you just can't use it |
| 20:40.42 | corbo | ;o |
| 20:40.48 | Bibendus | or for camera not smooth |
| 20:40.53 | Helral | my leather armor is swimming around on my map :P |
| 20:40.59 | Helral | I made it a fish as model. |
| 20:41.05 | Tinman | lol |
| 20:41.53 | corbo | there should be |
| 20:41.58 | corbo | an equivalent of a fish |
| 20:42.00 | corbo | but on lava |
| 20:42.17 | Bibendus | ah u didnt make the underground tunnel |
| 20:42.19 | Bibendus | ! |
| 20:42.26 | Bibendus | don't cheat on me with a fake dust2 :D |
| 20:43.24 | Gao | I have a quick question: The Void Seeker unit has an ability that increases its speed and gives it "afterimages" like the HTs from Brood War. If I were to assign this spell to another unit, would it retain the Void Keeper's afterimages or its own? |
| 20:43.42 | Galois-evariste | you can't make the underground tunnel >:G |
| 20:43.52 | Bibendus | maybe |
| 20:43.55 | Bibendus | make a bridge |
| 20:43.55 | SweetZombieJesus | Gao: the after images are animation events |
| 20:43.56 | Bibendus | on top |
| 20:44.01 | Bibendus | and i v seen a demo |
| 20:44.02 | SweetZombieJesus | there is a tutorial how to do that though |
| 20:44.07 | Bibendus | yye |
| 20:44.08 | Bibendus | :D |
| 20:44.19 | Bibendus | it needs triggering |
| 20:44.21 | Bibendus | but it can be done |
| 20:44.22 | molster | a very good tut at that |
| 20:44.22 | Gao | So the afterimages are the property of a Void Keeper itself, not the spell? |
| 20:44.29 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 20:44.32 | Bibendus | oh shit i don't know if its enough smooth |
| 20:44.34 | SweetZombieJesus | its the actor |
| 20:44.35 | P_R_Deltoid | what the fuck is a void keeper? |
| 20:44.36 | P_R_Deltoid | :| |
| 20:44.40 | SweetZombieJesus | but any actor can have it |
| 20:44.45 | SweetZombieJesus | if you set the events properly |
| 20:44.55 | Gao | Zeratul's ship. And alright, I'll go look for that tutorial. Thank you. |
| 20:44.58 | Bibendus | for smooth i mean the ac130k fps |
| 20:45.05 | P_R_Deltoid | zertul... ha da SHIP? |
| 20:45.19 | P_R_Deltoid | why did I have to run to get those fucking artifacts |
| 20:45.21 | arturusfury | Gao if you have trouble with it let me know |
| 20:45.22 | P_R_Deltoid | what the shit is going on |
| 20:45.33 | Coolflip | is the doppler level option in the sounds thing the volume? |
| 20:45.44 | Coolflip | Wow fuck im retarded |
| 20:45.46 | Coolflip | Nevermind |
| 20:46.09 | P_R_Deltoid | :p |
| 20:46.30 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ant4Wfc4b0 |
| 20:46.33 | Bibendus | this is a good camera |
| 20:46.36 | Bibendus | a perfect camera |
| 20:46.36 | Galois-evariste | its not good |
| 20:46.37 | Bibendus | sry |
| 20:46.38 | Galois-evariste | its just a good computer |
| 20:46.44 | Galois-evariste | a perfect computer |
| 20:46.49 | Galois-evariste | if you want to look like ac130k |
| 20:46.53 | P_R_Deltoid | There are quite a few |
| 20:46.55 | Galois-evariste | just make the map dark as shit so you can't see the imperfections |
| 20:46.58 | Bibendus | i have a fucking great comp |
| 20:46.58 | P_R_Deltoid | that is an old version |
| 20:47.01 | Bibendus | and i lag on each fps i got |
| 20:47.02 | Galois-evariste | and then add a bunch of doodads |
| 20:47.02 | P_R_Deltoid | really old |
| 20:47.07 | Bibendus | he just did a good work on triggers |
| 20:47.09 | Bibendus | they are efficient |
| 20:47.20 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah, but other people had, as well. All the RPG maps I played were pretty good at it |
| 20:47.21 | Bibendus | however |
| 20:47.25 | P_R_Deltoid | smooth |
| 20:47.27 | P_R_Deltoid | that kind of thing' |
| 20:47.27 | Bibendus | i don't get how to make a good smooth follow |
| 20:47.37 | Bibendus | withouth getting the camera rotating as shit |
| 20:47.38 | P_R_Deltoid | Who knows |
| 20:47.38 | Galois-evariste | coolflip |
| 20:47.41 | Galois-evariste | lets try this one more time |
| 20:47.43 | Galois-evariste | are you guys still watching? |
| 20:47.49 | P_R_Deltoid | Malu05 knows. |
| 20:47.51 | Bibendus | cooflip? |
| 20:47.53 | Coolflip | ? |
| 20:47.54 | Bibendus | coolflip |
| 20:48.00 | SweetZombieJesus | i think its in data editor default camera |
| 20:48.04 | Coolflip | ? |
| 20:48.06 | SweetZombieJesus | theres a settings to turn delay down |
| 20:48.13 | Bibendus | delay of what |
| 20:48.48 | SweetZombieJesus | accelaration period maybe |
| 20:48.53 | SweetZombieJesus | im not sure which settings |
| 20:48.56 | SweetZombieJesus | check it out |
| 20:49.12 | Bibendus | of what? :O |
| 20:49.16 | SweetZombieJesus | data editor |
| 20:49.18 | Bibendus | k |
| 20:49.19 | SweetZombieJesus | data type: camera |
| 20:49.19 | Bibendus | camera? |
| 20:49.21 | SweetZombieJesus | default camera |
| 20:49.28 | SweetZombieJesus | assuming you use default camera |
| 20:49.45 | Bibendus | mm yes |
| 20:49.46 | Bibendus | maybe |
| 20:49.47 | Bibendus | it is |
| 20:49.51 | Galois-evariste | brb on the stream fyi |
| 20:50.06 | Bibendus | i added a new camera |
| 20:50.09 | Bibendus | but where the hell is that |
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| 20:50.13 | SweetZombieJesus | idunno |
| 20:50.16 | SweetZombieJesus | i just told you all i know |
| 20:50.18 | Galois-evariste | bibendus |
| 20:50.21 | SweetZombieJesus | im a super data editor noob |
| 20:50.23 | Bibendus | ye |
| 20:50.28 | Galois-evariste | did you add a camera in the C thing |
| 20:50.31 | Galois-evariste | or did you make a camera variable |
| 20:50.35 | Bibendus | i made a new camera |
| 20:50.37 | Bibendus | in the terrain |
| 20:50.41 | SweetZombieJesus | galois you still editing on stream? |
| 20:50.42 | Galois-evariste | click on "view selected camera" |
| 20:50.44 | Galois-evariste | to see wher eit is |
| 20:50.47 | Bibendus | y |
| 20:50.48 | Galois-evariste | i turned it off for a second |
| 20:50.53 | Galois-evariste | so that the computer would load faster |
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| 20:50.55 | Bibendus | no i mean |
| 20:50.56 | Galois-evariste | i'll put it back on in a sec |
| 20:50.58 | Bibendus | where is it in the data editor |
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| 20:51.07 | SweetZombieJesus | but you are always on the stream when you edit? |
| 20:51.08 | onetwo | wow lot of people in here today |
| 20:51.14 | Galois-evariste | most of the time yes |
| 20:51.18 | Galois-evariste | for the past couple days i've not done that |
| 20:51.21 | Galois-evariste | because i wanted to focus on the map |
| 20:51.26 | nitroball | sup nubs? |
| 20:51.28 | Galois-evariste | and not worry about people watching |
| 20:51.34 | SweetZombieJesus | does anyone watch? :P |
| 20:51.38 | Galois-evariste | some people |
| 20:51.40 | Galois-evariste | i stream on teamliquid.net |
| 20:51.45 | Galois-evariste | so they know when i'm online there |
| 20:51.47 | Galois-evariste | and they watch and comment |
| 20:51.49 | Galois-evariste | from tiem to time |
| 20:52.02 | Galois-evariste | also vjeux told me he wanted to post ont he frontpage when i'm streaming |
| 20:52.03 | onetwo | hey so what was the bank limit |
| 20:52.08 | onetwo | in terms of string characters |
| 20:52.09 | Galois-evariste | which is actually now as a godo time so i should message him |
| 20:53.04 | SweetZombieJesus | was there a hd option? |
| 20:53.14 | SweetZombieJesus | cause i did look a few days ago for like 20 secs but i couldnt read any text |
| 20:53.26 | SweetZombieJesus | not that im gonna watch tbh :P but im wondering |
| 20:53.34 | Coolflip | Now is a bad time |
| 20:53.42 | Coolflip | When its fixed is a good time |
| 20:54.05 | Galois-evariste | fyi the stream is up: http://www.justin.tv/wandererr |
| 20:54.13 | Tinman | Getting on some more promotion here, I have been playing allot of games, though I am still waiting for that one epic game to start things out. |
| 20:54.13 | Tinman | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/map-review/7415-ums-commentaries-sc2tinman/ |
| 20:54.41 | SweetZombieJesus | wee another bug fixed |
| 20:54.44 | Galois-evariste | yo tinman |
| 20:54.48 | SweetZombieJesus | i dont like these editor bugs |
| 20:54.54 | Galois-evariste | check out that stream - here'es a new map for you to commentate |
| 20:54.56 | SweetZombieJesus | they make me waste so much time looking for a bug that doesnt excist |
| 20:55.11 | Galois-evariste | as soon as i figure out why adding a dialog refresh makes units spawn in doubles |
| 20:55.31 | Coolflip | Try takeing out the refresh see if it fixes it |
| 20:55.46 | Galois-evariste | i have no idea why that would work but okay |
| 20:55.52 | Galois-evariste | i'll just disable it |
| 20:55.58 | SweetZombieJesus | what is UMS ? |
| 20:56.01 | Coolflip | Well you changed it before it broke |
| 20:56.05 | Coolflip | User map settings |
| 20:56.10 | Galois-evariste | right |
| 20:56.10 | SweetZombieJesus | aha |
| 20:56.12 | Coolflip | Custom games basically |
| 20:56.17 | Galois-evariste | jesus are you serious? |
| 20:56.18 | Galois-evariste | really? |
| 20:56.23 | SweetZombieJesus | :o |
| 20:56.25 | SweetZombieJesus | wut |
| 20:56.33 | Galois-evariste | knowing what UMS means is kind of a prerequisite for being apart of the starcraft community |
| 20:56.39 | Atlos | hmm, any idea why my units would stop moving after a behavior is applied to them? |
| 20:56.39 | SweetZombieJesus | and yet i was in |
| 20:56.40 | Galois-evariste | I spent up until sc2 came out making UMS maps |
| 20:56.41 | onetwo | i always thought it meant user made scenario |
| 20:56.41 | SweetZombieJesus | muahaha |
| 20:56.44 | onetwo | i guess same meaning though |
| 20:56.45 | SweetZombieJesus | besieds |
| 20:56.47 | Galois-evariste | >_> |
| 20:56.48 | SweetZombieJesus | i call it custom maps |
| 20:56.54 | molsterr | LIES |
| 20:56.55 | onetwo | sc1 term = UMS, war3 term = custom game |
| 20:57.03 | Coolflip | If its not mele, its UMS |
| 20:57.03 | Galois-evariste | use map settings is the word you see every time you press alt+j in battlenet |
| 20:57.05 | SweetZombieJesus | see |
| 20:57.08 | corbo | is there a way to use the height tool |
| 20:57.08 | SweetZombieJesus | listen to the wise onetwo |
| 20:57.10 | onetwo | im always surprised how many people never mapped for war3, yet they mapped for sc1 a 12 year old game |
| 20:57.11 | Galois-evariste | that's right onetwo |
| 20:57.13 | corbo | to make more uniform cliffs? |
| 20:57.15 | onetwo | war3 mapping would help a ton |
| 20:57.18 | onetwo | to learn sc2 editor |
| 20:57.22 | onetwo | sc1 editor is crap |
| 20:57.23 | onetwo | haha |
| 20:57.25 | Galois-evariste | i've had the opposite experience actually onetwo |
| 20:57.28 | Atlos | I never bought WC3 |
| 20:57.29 | onetwo | its good for its time |
| 20:57.29 | onetwo | i mean |
| 20:57.30 | corbo | If I just keep brushing it just adds height |
| 20:57.31 | corbo | and more |
| 20:57.37 | Coolflip | My god i wish sc2 editor could be half as easy as wc3 editor |
| 20:57.41 | corbo | I want it to be gradual |
| 20:57.41 | onetwo | how can you call yourself a blizz gamer :( |
| 20:57.42 | onetwo | lol |
| 20:58.00 | SweetZombieJesus | Tinman MY EYES |
| 20:58.00 | Coolflip | Duplicate a unit, set a new model and you have yourself a new unit |
| 20:58.01 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 20:58.04 | Coolflip | No needing to link the actors |
| 20:58.06 | Coolflip | Or any of that BS |
| 20:58.07 | Atlos | so any idea why a behavior that just adds health to a unit would cause it to stop it's orders? |
| 20:58.11 | SweetZombieJesus | the youtube skin, its killing meeee |
| 20:58.11 | onetwo | yeah you need to duplicate any missile actors |
| 20:58.13 | onetwo | turret actor |
| 20:58.15 | Helral | guess I'm almost a blizz gamer :P I just missed 1 game. |
| 20:58.16 | Gao | Could someone help me find a tutorial that deals with changing a non-combat (the Port Junker, as an example) into a unit that can build buildings/attack? |
| 20:58.17 | Tinman | SweetZombieJesus Yes, your eyes are pretty |
| 20:58.24 | SweetZombieJesus | why thanks |
| 20:58.26 | Bibendus | oh YES! |
| 20:58.30 | Galois-evariste | okay guys are you watching? |
| 20:58.32 | Bibendus | IT IS! |
| 20:58.33 | Galois-evariste | we're going to try again |
| 20:58.36 | Galois-evariste | where i take out the thing i did earlier |
| 20:58.37 | onetwo | lol |
| 20:58.38 | onetwo | :D |
| 20:58.39 | Tehwildcard | Does WASD still suck in bnet? |
| 20:58.44 | Coolflip | Cao |
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| 20:58.53 | Galois-evariste | no card it doesn't |
| 20:58.54 | Coolflip | Give it some movement, some abilities and fix the command card |
| 20:58.55 | Galois-evariste | watch this stream to find out |
| 20:58.57 | Coolflip | and your good to go |
| 20:58.59 | Galois-evariste | because im about to start a wasd map |
| 20:59.00 | Galois-evariste | http://www.justin.tv/wandererr |
| 20:59.01 | Ashamed | supz |
| 20:59.01 | Bibendus | i love jesus |
| 20:59.01 | Helral | Tehwildcard: afaik, yeah. |
| 20:59.02 | Tinman | SweetZombieJesus Thats why I want some epic lulz man to make a nice one, I probably could do it myself, but I lack the lulz... |
| 20:59.05 | Bibendus | when he's a zombie! |
| 20:59.19 | Coolflip | Wildcard is back :D |
| 20:59.21 | Bibendus | so make camera follow |
| 20:59.21 | SweetZombieJesus | well it has to be teh lulz |
| 20:59.22 | SweetZombieJesus | and stuff |
| 20:59.31 | Gao | I would do that, Coolflip, but I'm really inexperienced with this editor! It's nothing like Brood War's editor. |
| 20:59.33 | Bibendus | and editing default camera max values |
| 20:59.36 | Galois-evariste | coolflip altab |
| 20:59.41 | Bibendus | seems to fix the camera that goes faaaaaar from unit |
| 20:59.49 | Galois-evariste | bibendus |
| 20:59.50 | Coolflip | Its nothing like any editor, this editor is HAAAARDDDDD to use |
| 20:59.52 | Tehwildcard | 1 yes, 1 no for WASD sucking :P Galois-evariste, what video |
| 20:59.52 | Galois-evariste | here's the camera trick i learned |
| 20:59.57 | Galois-evariste | make the distance thing very small |
| 21:00.00 | Galois-evariste | and make the field of view very big |
| 21:00.02 | Bibendus | yy |
| 21:00.02 | Tinman | SweetZombieJesus Maybe I should switch to the pink skin :p |
| 21:00.12 | SweetZombieJesus | maybe a not uniform color? :P |
| 21:00.13 | Galois-evariste | card |
| 21:00.14 | Galois-evariste | watch this stream |
| 21:00.16 | Galois-evariste | i'm about to start |
| 21:00.18 | Galois-evariste | http://www.justin.tv/wandererr |
| 21:00.20 | Tehwildcard | kk |
| 21:00.25 | onetwo | damn my RPG's bank is 444 bytes for just me |
| 21:00.27 | onetwo | times that by 6 players |
| 21:00.30 | onetwo | 2.6 KB |
| 21:00.33 | onetwo | and bank limit is 4KB |
| 21:00.34 | onetwo | for bnet |
| 21:00.38 | SweetZombieJesus | lol 4? |
| 21:00.39 | SweetZombieJesus | why 4 kb |
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| 21:00.41 | corbo | onetwo |
| 21:00.42 | onetwo | i was hoping to double hero save slots |
| 21:00.42 | SweetZombieJesus | thats |
| 21:00.43 | SweetZombieJesus | nothing |
| 21:00.44 | SweetZombieJesus | at al |
| 21:00.45 | onetwo | hmm |
| 21:00.46 | molsterr | is it really1/ |
| 21:00.49 | onetwo | to prevent viruses? |
| 21:00.50 | corbo | read my question? |
| 21:00.51 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 21:00.53 | Bibendus | whats the angle of attack |
| 21:00.53 | onetwo | no |
| 21:00.54 | Bibendus | :| |
| 21:00.54 | onetwo | repeat it |
| 21:00.56 | molsterr | its 4kb per player |
| 21:01.06 | onetwo | "When you create Bank file check it's size. Multiply it by amount of players. And you can check if you will fit into 4kB limit." |
| 21:01.07 | SweetZombieJesus | onetwo there was a compression library for banks |
| 21:01.09 | SweetZombieJesus | or is being worked on |
| 21:01.13 | onetwo | "Bank Files: 4kB is limit for bank files of all player all together." |
| 21:01.23 | onetwo | im already using strings so its pretty compressed i think |
| 21:01.30 | onetwo | i need to store all like 36 inventory slots |
| 21:01.35 | onetwo | 2 letters each |
| 21:01.38 | onetwo | no way around that |
| 21:01.54 | SweetZombieJesus | havent tried banks yet but i'd try out the compression |
| 21:01.59 | SweetZombieJesus | might be something atleast |
| 21:02.02 | onetwo | hmm |
| 21:02.08 | Tinman | Yummy yummy waffles! |
| 21:02.14 | corbo | 2 letters each? |
| 21:02.19 | corbo | use 1 letter each! |
| 21:02.19 | Bibendus | it goes far |
| 21:02.23 | corbo | can you use symbols |
| 21:02.24 | corbo | ? |
| 21:02.27 | Bibendus | and then it goes near when stopped moving |
| 21:02.37 | onetwo | yes but i can get to about 95 syumbols/letters |
| 21:02.39 | onetwo | total |
| 21:02.41 | onetwo | so i need 2 |
| 21:02.46 | onetwo | ill definitely have more than 95 items |
| 21:02.49 | corbo | huh? |
| 21:02.49 | SweetZombieJesus | why 95? |
| 21:02.56 | onetwo | 0-9 |
| 21:02.59 | corbo | wouldn't you have at least 256 |
| 21:03.02 | onetwo | -=_+[]{}\":?><,. |
| 21:03.08 | onetwo | all letters |
| 21:03.08 | corbo | 256 ascii symbols, yeah |
| 21:03.09 | onetwo | and caps |
| 21:03.11 | SweetZombieJesus | ☺☻♥♦♣ |
| 21:03.18 | onetwo | i cant type em all easily lol |
| 21:03.21 | onetwo | 95 is fine for me |
| 21:03.23 | onetwo | 95x95 is 9000 |
| 21:03.25 | corbo | WELL |
| 21:03.25 | SweetZombieJesus | you want room or not ?:P |
| 21:03.27 | onetwo | i definitely wont surpass that |
| 21:03.30 | onetwo | no 256 is not enough |
| 21:03.34 | onetwo | so i have to use 2 anyway |
| 21:03.44 | Unrea1 | Helral you there? |
| 21:03.44 | corbo | 256 not enough? |
| 21:03.46 | corbo | MADNESS |
| 21:03.50 | onetwo | lol |
| 21:03.52 | Helral | Unrea1: yeah |
| 21:03.55 | corbo | And I' can't even make a cats vs mice map |
| 21:03.56 | corbo | :( |
| 21:04.00 | onetwo | 'do you guys really want more bank space?' |
| 21:04.08 | Unrea1 | Whats swappin the unit model in the ability |
| 21:04.24 | Unrea1 | I want to get the tree stump in there while its switching |
| 21:04.25 | Helral | the morph ability itself does that. |
| 21:04.30 | Helral | ahhh |
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| 21:04.48 | Helral | look at the mineral field resource behavior |
| 21:04.57 | Helral | it has a unit to use when depleted. |
| 21:05.48 | SmokeFX | What is the best way to do a capture the flag, I have it as a behavior right now, and it works flawlessly, The problem I have is I need to add a condition to unit dies to make sure he had the behavior. |
| 21:05.50 | corbo | damn |
| 21:05.57 | corbo | terraining this will be hard then |
| 21:05.57 | molsterr | re-reading about bank space... this is horrible, I was going to store, all 5 classes in the bank, each class has about 10 vars, and its a 14 player map... madness |
| 21:06.24 | onetwo | meh if you can fit everything in a string |
| 21:06.25 | onetwo | its fine |
| 21:06.33 | onetwo | theres a library out there to convert integers to characters |
| 21:06.46 | molsterr | yeah I saw that awhile ago, now I see the point of it. |
| 21:06.49 | onetwo | yeah |
| 21:06.52 | onetwo | so 100 isnt 3 digits |
| 21:06.54 | corbo | hey |
| 21:06.54 | onetwo | itll be a symbol |
| 21:06.55 | onetwo | or w/e |
| 21:06.56 | molsterr | didnt know the limitations was so bad |
| 21:06.57 | onetwo | up to ascii limit |
| 21:07.00 | corbo | how tall is a cliff? |
| 21:07.07 | corbo | 2 meters? |
| 21:07.10 | onetwo | 4.819 feet |
| 21:07.15 | molsterr | any idea why its between all players? |
| 21:07.17 | Coolflip | Convert it to a string? |
| 21:07.19 | corbo | anf that's...? |
| 21:07.20 | onetwo | no idea |
| 21:07.23 | Tinman | I need a library that can convert my shitty maps into a good map, anyone made one of those? |
| 21:07.26 | Coolflip | Than convert it back when needed |
| 21:07.28 | onetwo | 2.1511111 meters |
| 21:07.31 | corbo | k |
| 21:07.32 | onetwo | im lieing though |
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| 21:07.36 | onetwo | Tinman |
| 21:07.40 | corbo | does galaxy work with meters |
| 21:07.41 | onetwo | its called pay me 40$ an hour |
| 21:07.43 | corbo | random units |
| 21:07.43 | onetwo | and youll haev a page 1 map |
| 21:07.44 | onetwo | in no time |
| 21:08.02 | onetwo | notice i said page 1 map |
| 21:08.05 | onetwo | meaning itll probably be shit |
| 21:08.06 | onetwo | haha |
| 21:08.11 | onetwo | ah i ousted myself |
| 21:08.12 | onetwo | damn |
| 21:08.23 | Coolflip | Dont talking to yourself? |
| 21:08.27 | Coolflip | Done* |
| 21:08.31 | molsterr | hmm |
| 21:08.40 | Tinman | And I was about to pay you... |
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| 21:08.49 | corbo | cool flip's not cool |
| 21:08.55 | onetwo | nice |
| 21:08.58 | god | But god is |
| 21:09.00 | onetwo | got my bank down to 282 bytes |
| 21:09.02 | onetwo | for each player |
| 21:09.09 | onetwo | i had pointless text |
| 21:09.11 | onetwo | xml crap |
| 21:09.14 | Tinman | What is a god? |
| 21:09.14 | molsterr | how many bytes is a 4 digit number? |
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| 21:09.24 | corbo | 1 |
| 21:09.26 | onetwo | 111 digits is 282 bytes |
| 21:09.28 | onetwo | wait |
| 21:09.29 | TheLaughingMan | 2 |
| 21:09.31 | onetwo | my code is 111 |
| 21:09.33 | onetwo | plus the XML crap |
| 21:09.35 | onetwo | let me see |
| 21:09.47 | Coolflip | /msg NickServ identify coolio |
| 21:09.52 | Coolflip | Whoops |
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| 21:10.03 | corbo | mmm |
| 21:10.04 | Coolflip | wtf |
| 21:10.06 | VoNDaLv | hi all, im annoyed >< |
| 21:10.15 | SmokeFX | same |
| 21:10.18 | Unrea1 | Helral the model refuses to change |
| 21:10.19 | Coolflip | *does the annoying oragne laugh* |
| 21:10.20 | onetwo | im almost at about 150-160 characters |
| 21:10.21 | VoNDaLv | why did editor changed so much from beta? wasnt able to finish 1 tutorial |
| 21:10.22 | onetwo | that makes 282 bytes |
| 21:10.29 | onetwo | seriously i wish banks didnt store XML crap |
| 21:10.32 | onetwo | it wastes so much space |
| 21:10.34 | onetwo | for my simple string |
| 21:10.34 | Tehwildcard | Coolflip, now I know all your secrets |
| 21:10.36 | Tehwildcard | MUAHAHAHHA |
| 21:10.40 | RedWraith | Is there anyway |
| 21:10.42 | RedWraith | to make terrain |
| 21:10.43 | Coolflip | Too bad that doesnt work |
| 21:10.44 | Coolflip | D; |
| 21:10.50 | RedWraith | align to a hex grid? |
| 21:10.52 | Coolflip | It said god was a registered nickname |
| 21:10.57 | RedWraith | It's current all diagonals/squares. |
| 21:11.05 | RedWraith | I need it to be hexes. |
| 21:11.07 | VoNDaLv | could someone help me just how to create a simple box at the map init? I mean, a blank dialog!! Cant even do that >< |
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| 21:11.12 | molsterr | so |
| 21:11.17 | molsterr | if it counts XML crap |
| 21:11.21 | Helral | molsterr: you can fit a 4 digit number into 2 bytes if you want to. |
| 21:11.24 | molsterr | is it better to store everything under the same key |
| 21:11.29 | corbo | :( |
| 21:11.36 | Coolflip | Onetwo, try changing your nick for a second, i wana see somthing |
| 21:11.41 | corbo | I don't even have a proper mouse to terrain |
| 21:11.49 | corbo | I'm using a touchpad |
| 21:11.54 | corbo | I mean wtf right |
| 21:11.57 | VoNDaLv | oh come one, please u_u |
| 21:12.04 | Tehwildcard | VoN |
| 21:12.10 | Tehwildcard | Im sure theres a dialog guide out |
| 21:12.11 | Tehwildcard | by now |
| 21:12.17 | vjeux | bnet eu down? |
| 21:12.22 | Coolflip | There is |
| 21:12.23 | TheLaughingMan | BNET EU UP! |
| 21:12.26 | VoNDaLv | im sure im trying all the tutorials from the site and not working x_x |
| 21:12.37 | VoNDaLv | (btw sorry about English, im Spanish) |
| 21:12.41 | Helral | Unrea1: hmmm ok then use a morph ability like the one I used it to change it back into a working mineral field, on a dummy unit which you use as the mineral depleted replacement unit. |
| 21:12.42 | onetwo | what |
| 21:12.44 | Coolflip | Search youtube for "Advanced Tower Defense Tutorial" He covers dialogue there |
| 21:12.50 | corbo | Von |
| 21:12.50 | VoNDaLv | oh, ok, thanks ;) |
| 21:12.52 | VoNDaLv | gonna try that |
| 21:12.53 | corbo | I'll help you |
| 21:12.53 | VoNDaLv | ye? |
| 21:12.54 | Helral | Unrea1: only change that morph target into the treestump unit. |
| 21:12.59 | Coolflip | Like a 16 part movie with 9 minutes each |
| 21:13.02 | onetwo | what do i cover |
| 21:13.03 | VoNDaLv | I cant give u in exchange nothing but sex |
| 21:13.04 | onetwo | oh |
| 21:13.05 | corbo | you're doing "create dialog" |
| 21:13.08 | corbo | right? |
| 21:13.14 | corbo | and it doesn't work |
| 21:13.15 | corbo | right? |
| 21:13.15 | VoNDaLv | Yup, in map initialization |
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| 21:13.21 | VoNDaLv | right |
| 21:13.24 | onetwo | you have to show it too |
| 21:13.25 | onetwo | after |
| 21:13.27 | corbo | Did you also use "show/hide dialog" |
| 21:13.28 | onetwo | cant just create |
| 21:13.41 | VoNDaLv | nope :> |
| 21:13.46 | corbo | there you go |
| 21:13.49 | corbo | that's your problem. |
| 21:13.49 | VoNDaLv | doh! |
| 21:13.52 | Coolflip | Is there a way to mass produce upgrades yet? |
| 21:13.53 | corbo | You have to show |
| 21:13.58 | Coolflip | Or do you still have to do them one by one |
| 21:13.58 | corbo | and you have to hide them too. |
| 21:14.30 | VoNDaLv | gonna try that, thanks :) |
| 21:14.32 | Ulti_ | So where are all the terrain artists hiding? |
| 21:14.45 | Coolflip | What do you need terrain'd |
| 21:14.54 | P_R_Deltoid | mass... produce...? |
| 21:15.10 | Galois-evariste | yo flip |
| 21:15.13 | Coolflip | Yo |
| 21:15.14 | Galois-evariste | you want to go again? |
| 21:15.18 | Coolflip | Sure |
| 21:15.36 | Coolflip | invite me whenever |
| 21:16.02 | Galois-evariste | publishign now |
| 21:16.09 | Ulti_ | I need http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/images/lore/noxus.png converted to an RPG map-layout. Sadly I'm only good at 3d animation/models |
| 21:16.24 | Ulti_ | Otherwise I'd wip out the wacom and do it myself |
| 21:16.41 | VoNDaLv | im good at terraining at least |
| 21:16.48 | P_R_Deltoid | damn that is a big map |
| 21:16.50 | P_R_Deltoid | is that like |
| 21:16.52 | P_R_Deltoid | a marsh |
| 21:16.53 | P_R_Deltoid | ? |
| 21:16.55 | Ulti_ | mhm |
| 21:17.32 | Ulti_ | We're talking 248x256 in full glorious detail |
| 21:17.38 | Coolflip | Ugh |
| 21:17.39 | Galois-evariste | lets go flip |
| 21:18.34 | RedWraith | sigh |
| 21:18.39 | RedWraith | damnit Blizzard |
| 21:18.57 | RedWraith | why did you have to make it impossible to make cliffs at non-standard angles |
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| 21:20.57 | Coolflip | Is there a way to just texturize a whole level of terrain? |
| 21:21.05 | Coolflip | Instead of painting every square pixel of it |
| 21:22.16 | Bablo | yeah |
| 21:22.19 | Bablo | Fill |
| 21:22.28 | Bablo | the button on the far right |
| 21:22.31 | Bablo | in the terrain tools |
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| 21:23.22 | Galois-evariste | flip |
| 21:23.30 | Galois-evariste | did you ever notice a pattern to what it took to be able to slide and shoot? |
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| 21:23.37 | Fromethius | what is a better site for streaming? justin.tv or livestream? |
| 21:23.39 | Galois-evariste | or were you just spamming |
| 21:23.42 | Coolflip | well |
| 21:23.44 | Galois-evariste | justintv doesn't limit your quality |
| 21:23.49 | Galois-evariste | i go witht hat site |
| 21:23.52 | Coolflip | Yeah justin |
| 21:24.03 | Fromethius | ok thanks |
| 21:24.04 | Coolflip | If your interweb can handle it |
| 21:24.04 | Galois-evariste | people say that justintv has shitty service but i've never had a problem for the past 2 years |
| 21:24.31 | Coolflip | If it wasnt for this irc, i would still be making my first tower D; |
| 21:24.37 | Galois-evariste | so i think the'yre like those fags who 1 star'd Alan Wake becasue there were a few seconds where the game wasn't in 720p hd like they had promised |
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| 21:25.37 | Labmonkey1 | hey |
| 21:25.39 | Labmonkey1 | anybody here? |
| 21:25.42 | Galois-evariste | yo |
| 21:25.43 | corbo | what would be a fun game for a lava map? |
| 21:25.51 | Galois-evariste | for a lava map? |
| 21:25.53 | Labmonkey1 | I have an idea for a map, but im too busy to make |
| 21:25.54 | corbo | ya |
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| 21:25.58 | Galois-evariste | run ling run was fun in brood war |
| 21:26.00 | Gao | I cannot figure out how to get Port Junkers to build things like a SCV. |
| 21:26.02 | Galois-evariste | he had to run from a lava flow coming at him |
| 21:26.03 | Labmonkey1 | anyone up for making it? |
| 21:26.06 | Labmonkey1 | you get full credit |
| 21:26.11 | Gao | I mean, I know it uses the "Submenu" action for the button |
| 21:26.12 | SweetZombieJesus | make something like contact |
| 21:26.14 | corbo | that's what I'm doing pretty much |
| 21:26.20 | corbo | run away from the volcano |
| 21:26.21 | Gao | But where do I go from there? How do I set up the submenu? |
| 21:26.25 | corbo | but with more stuff |
| 21:26.27 | Labmonkey1 | if anyone is interested just private message me |
| 21:26.29 | corbo | I have the classic run away |
| 21:26.30 | Coolflip | Theres a little drop down nubmer |
| 21:26.31 | Labmonkey1 | and ill explain it |
| 21:26.34 | Gao | Oh, wait, nevermind |
| 21:26.37 | corbo | and I have a "last man standing" mode |
| 21:26.39 | Coolflip | Change the dropdown to another level |
| 21:26.43 | corbo | which is lava comes up |
| 21:26.49 | corbo | and you have to get into higher terrain |
| 21:26.52 | Coolflip | And make the button on the first one swap to the second one |
| 21:26.52 | corbo | and be the last to survive |
| 21:26.57 | Gao | Yeah, I just noticed the dropdown up there...I think I got it now .Thanks. |
| 21:27.02 | Coolflip | Mmhm |
| 21:27.03 | corbo | but I want one more game |
| 21:27.08 | Coolflip | Took me forever to notice it too heh |
| 21:27.15 | Gao | If I want a cancel button, I'll need to make one that links back to the main submenu, right? |
| 21:27.17 | corbo | So I have last man standing and run to survive |
| 21:27.21 | corbo | but what else could there be? |
| 21:27.23 | Coolflip | yeah |
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| 21:27.29 | Gao | Alright, thank you. |
| 21:27.31 | Coolflip | Otherwise your stuck in the other menu |
| 21:27.39 | Galois-evariste | protect bob is on my todo list for map remakes |
| 21:27.52 | Coolflip | Oh jesus |
| 21:27.52 | Gao | I can't have more than 4 menus? |
| 21:27.53 | Coolflip | I loved that |
| 21:27.56 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uelHwf8o7_U |
| 21:27.58 | ProzaicMuze | Oh no! |
| 21:27.59 | Galois-evariste | everyone did |
| 21:28.01 | Coolflip | No it cant |
| 21:28.02 | Coolflip | D: |
| 21:28.06 | ProzaicMuze | What have they done to my hobbit!?!? |
| 21:28.13 | Chainclaw | you could do a capture the flag dealie on a lava / volcano map. Each player controls some indigenous people who want to sacrifice virgins to the volcano god. Spawn virgins around the map, and let them compete to bring in the most |
| 21:28.17 | Coolflip | Im remakign Splash TD right now, and attempted to make a footmen's |
| 21:28.36 | Galois-evariste | lol |
| 21:28.38 | Coolflip | But my footmen map broke with the release version of editor |
| 21:29.01 | corbo | lol |
| 21:29.17 | corbo | well |
| 21:29.20 | corbo | That'd be nice |
| 21:29.21 | corbo | but |
| 21:29.33 | corbo | how would you be able to tell if they're virgins for real? |
| 21:29.34 | corbo | :P |
| 21:29.40 | Coolflip | ok, i need help with calling the number of players |
| 21:29.41 | Coolflip | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.47 | Galois-evariste | alright flip lets give it anotehr go |
| 21:29.47 | Coolflip | To lazy to pastebin |
| 21:29.49 | corbo | I mean, lots of things happen in barracks, man. |
| 21:29.54 | Coolflip | o |
| 21:29.55 | Chainclaw | use the nerdy guy from the science lab, you know he's gotta be one |
| 21:29.55 | Coolflip | k |
| 21:30.03 | corbo | lol |
| 21:30.22 | Fromethius | what software is best to use for streaming pc games with justin.tv? my friend wants to set up a livestream |
| 21:30.25 | Coolflip | Well invite me you hurr durr |
| 21:30.25 | Chainclaw | or have a witch doctor unit that can tell if guys are really virigns or not |
| 21:30.35 | Galois-evariste | i did |
| 21:30.37 | Galois-evariste | you're not looking |
| 21:30.43 | SmokeFX | What is the best way to feature a flag in a capture the flag? Behavior? |
| 21:30.45 | corbo | That'll be awesome |
| 21:30.50 | corbo | randomly training girls |
| 21:30.57 | corbo | and figuring out if they're virgins or not |
| 21:31.04 | corbo | and have others team "infest them" |
| 21:31.10 | corbo | and you know what I mean with that |
| 21:31.11 | corbo | >.> |
| 21:31.12 | corbo | <.< |
| 21:31.12 | Chainclaw | hah |
| 21:31.35 | corbo | I'd get sooooo banned if I publish anything like that |
| 21:31.45 | Chainclaw | finally, when someone shouts "rape" in a SC2 map, they are being literall |
| 21:31.55 | Atlos | hmm, does anybody know where the requirement for generate creep is? |
| 21:31.57 | Atlos | I can't find it |
| 21:32.27 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 21:32.28 | Chainclaw | just chain it to sacrificing "clean" civilians |
| 21:32.52 | Chainclaw | It would be cool if someone made a missile generate creep along its flight path |
| 21:33.00 | Coolflip | So did anyone have an answer for my question |
| 21:33.08 | Chainclaw | can you set up multiple colors / kinds of creep? You could build a map where players compete to cover the most surface area in creep |
| 21:33.24 | SmokeFX | sounds interesting |
| 21:33.28 | corbo | I don't think blizzard would accept a "sacrifice things to volcano god" at all |
| 21:33.28 | Coolflip | That does |
| 21:33.31 | SmokeFX | most likely have to duplicate the creep |
| 21:33.35 | SmokeFX | and alter each one |
| 21:33.43 | Atlos | nevermind I found it |
| 21:33.48 | Atlos | I had to remove Has Lair |
| 21:33.56 | SmokeFX | haha |
| 21:33.56 | SmokeFX | ya |
| 21:34.11 | SmokeFX | or else it just goes away |
| 21:34.18 | RedWraith | How do you open a door doodad? |
| 21:34.19 | Atlos | sweet my ability works perfectly |
| 21:34.28 | Coolflip | I had an idea |
| 21:34.30 | Chainclaw | this whole "blizzard needs to approve the map" nonsense sucks. What happened to all the retardedly dirty maps like in SC1. "BOOBS MC BOOBERSON NEEDS YOUR HELP TO SOLVE A BONER CRIME" |
| 21:34.30 | Atlos | the doors have an ability |
| 21:34.36 | Atlos | that you have to use |
| 21:34.39 | Coolflip | What if you give a creep tumor the ability to spawn creep tumors and made it autocast |
| 21:34.42 | Coolflip | Would your creep spread itself? |
| 21:34.48 | VoNDaLv | you should |
| 21:34.55 | VoNDaLv | with offset X / Y for spawning |
| 21:35.02 | Coolflip | Randomized |
| 21:35.03 | Coolflip | All the way |
| 21:35.12 | corbo | imagine |
| 21:35.16 | corbo | a zerg unit |
| 21:35.17 | Coolflip | Or X units away from another one |
| 21:35.22 | Chainclaw | you could make observers spawn creep while moving, then don't give shared vision |
| 21:35.23 | corbo | for "remotely shooting creep" |
| 21:35.24 | SmokeFX | How do I make a trigger identify a unit has a behavior if he dies (trigger event) |
| 21:35.29 | corbo | would completely screw up terrans |
| 21:35.44 | SmokeFX | conditions seem to just stop the trigger from working |
| 21:35.56 | Chainclaw | have there been any standard melee maps with crazy custom races yet? |
| 21:36.04 | Coolflip | Than your conditions are wrong |
| 21:36.09 | Coolflip | Hope i helped |
| 21:36.10 | Coolflip | :) |
| 21:36.13 | SmokeFX | lol |
| 21:36.18 | SmokeFX | ive done all the condition |
| 21:36.19 | SmokeFX | that made sense |
| 21:36.20 | corbo | lul |
| 21:36.29 | SmokeFX | im thinking global veriable |
| 21:36.33 | Chainclaw | someone was talking the other day about building Dawn of War 2 style squads, building marines gives you like 5, selecting one selects all five, and they all share orders |
| 21:36.38 | SmokeFX | but i dont know how to hold the behavior information after death |
| 21:37.00 | corbo | mapping sucks |
| 21:37.05 | SmokeFX | hahaha |
| 21:37.07 | corbo | I'm completely annoyed now |
| 21:37.08 | corbo | bye |
| 21:37.13 | SmokeFX | sirry |
| 21:37.15 | SmokeFX | sorry |
| 21:37.17 | arturusfury | lol |
| 21:37.17 | corbo | not you |
| 21:37.19 | corbo | it's this |
| 21:37.23 | corbo | stupid terrain height tool |
| 21:37.24 | SmokeFX | i understand |
| 21:37.25 | corbo | graaah |
| 21:37.55 | SmokeFX | Any takers on my pathetic problems? |
| 21:40.29 | Unrea1 | Helral the model doesnt seem to change it just changes the name, then again im semi retarded when it comes to DE |
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| 21:41.54 | Bibendus|AFK | mmmm now i got another problem on the camera |
| 21:41.54 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 39 minutes 26 seconds |
| 21:41.57 | Bibendus | when i move |
| 21:41.59 | Vailreth | whats going on Unrea1 |
| 21:42.03 | Bibendus | it slowly returns to an horizontal view |
| 21:42.09 | SweetZombieJesus | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/libchs/pages/main/ |
| 21:42.14 | SweetZombieJesus | v2.2 released |
| 21:42.15 | Unrea1 | Well it seems when the mineral depletes |
| 21:42.22 | Unrea1 | It doesnt want to swap models |
| 21:42.40 | Gao | When choose to test a map from the editor, is the map running at Fastest by default? |
| 21:42.46 | Unrea1 | The name of the unit just changes |
| 21:42.47 | Gao | When you choose* |
| 21:43.23 | Vailreth | i had that problem |
| 21:44.08 | Unrea1 | Did you fix it? |
| 21:46.14 | Helral | Unrea1: you could use another morph ability to make it alter the unit correctly. |
| 21:46.44 | Unrea1 | Well i had a second morph ability but like I said it was just changing the name |
| 21:46.58 | Vailreth | i dont think you would need to do that i think you can change it in the mineral field actor |
| 21:47.21 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 21:47.51 | Unrea1 | You would think changing the dummy unit actor would work :| |
| 21:48.02 | Vailreth | dummy unit? |
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| 21:50.15 | Unrea1 | The empty unit it uses |
| 21:51.49 | Bibendus | galois |
| 21:51.54 | Bibendus | DOh |
| 21:51.56 | Bibendus | rofl |
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| 21:52.06 | Bibendus | how the hell is possible |
| 21:52.07 | Bibendus | :V |
| 21:52.09 | rrowland | Anyone know about 3ds max and animations? |
| 21:52.22 | Bibendus | i call someone and after 1 second he leave |
| 21:52.25 | Bibendus | s |
| 21:52.31 | Bibendus | let's try again |
| 21:52.33 | Bibendus | bablo |
| 21:52.36 | Vailreth | oh i see i dont use a dummy unit |
| 21:52.38 | Bibendus | no it doesnt work |
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| 21:54.29 | rrowland | I want to switch between animations in 3ds max on a sc2 model |
| 21:56.05 | Vailreth | helral i notice you mineral refill causes the scvs to be unable to keep harversting on their own.. |
| 21:56.19 | Ulti_ | @rrow, which model/anim in particular |
| 21:56.26 | Helral | Vailreth: my mapsize is too small |
| 21:56.33 | Helral | Vailreth: the unit can't find the CC. |
| 21:56.36 | Unrea1 | Yeah they dont do it in mine |
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| 21:59.37 | Vailreth | i see ... |
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| 22:00.06 | Vailreth | all you have to do it move the command center a little in yours Helral |
| 22:00.20 | Unrea1 | Even with the second morph ability, nothing |
| 22:00.49 | Tinman | OMG 00:00 |
| 22:00.51 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/transition-alt/. Transition Alt. CaliberMengsk (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 22:01.37 | Helral | Vailreth: just noticed it was the morph ability that caused the problem. XD it's collision range was too large. |
| 22:01.58 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 22:02.23 | Helral | hmmm |
| 22:02.41 | Helral | during the morph my SCV can't find the dropoff point (I changed the morph) |
| 22:02.57 | Helral | trying to get it to show a mengsk statue or something else then a mineral patch. |
| 22:03.07 | Vailreth | take a look at mine and see what you think, just note it takes 20 seconds for the mineral filed to refresh |
| 22:03.12 | Vailreth | http://www.mediafire.com/?pa5cry8su8czaim |
| 22:03.49 | Bibendus | stupid auto camera pitch |
| 22:03.50 | Bibendus | i hate it |
| 22:04.05 | Vailreth | this is just a variation of my mineral regen and growth map |
| 22:04.08 | Bibendus | anyone knows how to disable it? |
| 22:05.44 | Unrea1 | Helral are you positive a second morph would change it |
| 22:05.45 | Helral | Vailreth: where is the other model :S the question was to display another model when the mineral field is depleted. and restore the original one when it is refreshed. |
| 22:05.58 | Vailreth | ah. |
| 22:06.08 | Helral | it seems that the mineral field itself bugs the unit swapping to another model. |
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| 22:06.22 | Vailreth | sorry i have an idea for that |
| 22:07.45 | MindWorX` | Funny, i wonder if this shit is happening in other countries aswell |
| 22:08.06 | MindWorX` | Apparently, here in denmark, the theftrate of 3gs iPhones has increased by 50% since the release of 4.g :P |
| 22:08.09 | MindWorX` | 4g.* |
| 22:08.25 | MindWorX` | Insurancefraud anyone? :P |
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| 22:09.15 | Gao | Is it possible to make a SCV build, for example, a Drakken Laser Drill? I'm not sure how to select a building that isn't in the dropdown. |
| 22:10.16 | Gao | Does it have something to do with the "SCV - Build ability? |
| 22:10.38 | Galois-evariste | hey coolflip |
| 22:10.43 | Galois-evariste | you still around? |
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| 22:12.04 | Tehwildcard | Galois |
| 22:12.08 | Tehwildcard | WASD movement |
| 22:12.08 | Tehwildcard | omg |
| 22:12.30 | Tinman | starts to eat onetwo's tutorials... |
| 22:12.35 | Galois-evariste | what |
| 22:12.37 | Galois-evariste | card |
| 22:12.46 | Galois-evariste | what are you trying to saw dog |
| 22:12.52 | Galois-evariste | you trying to saw my leg off |
| 22:13.06 | Galois-evariste | what are you saying?! |
| 22:13.08 | Tehwildcard | Just need to know if WASD still lags in multiplayer |
| 22:13.25 | Unrea1 | It does |
| 22:13.34 | Helral | Unrea1: hmmm I don't get it to work correctly for mineral fields :S |
| 22:13.43 | Galois-evariste | card |
| 22:13.48 | Galois-evariste | do you want to play my map with me |
| 22:13.50 | Galois-evariste | you can see for yourself |
| 22:13.53 | Tehwildcard | sure |
| 22:13.55 | Galois-evariste | ok |
| 22:14.13 | Unrea1 | Helral you think you could make the model invisible and have a replacement model until the original is back? |
| 22:14.14 | Galois-evariste | my map is bigger than i like though so if it laggs to much for you (due to fps on a shitty comp) i can have us play the small map version |
| 22:14.20 | Galois-evariste | give me your number |
| 22:14.22 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 22:14.49 | Tehwildcard | Tehwildcard.307 |
| 22:16.04 | *** part/#sc2mapster Petoj (~Petoj87@h-186-121.A185.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 22:16.11 | Helral | Unrea1: I think you can use a dummy ability to trigger the hiding and revealing of the unit. and also spawn a dead unit with it in it's place. |
| 22:16.49 | Unrea1 | Good thing im horrible at the date editor |
| 22:16.56 | Unrea1 | Should be able to pull that off in about a month |
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| 22:21.29 | Galois-evariste | card - give me a sec to publish the older map |
| 22:21.45 | Galois-evariste | and make sure that it'll still work |
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| 22:21.49 | Galois-evariste | i might've done something to it without noticing |
| 22:22.12 | Tehwildcard | kk |
| 22:24.24 | Galois-evariste | okay i think i got it - ill invite you in a minute |
| 22:24.56 | Fromethius | what is some good software for streaming pc games live to justin.tv? |
| 22:25.58 | Galois-evariste | i use |
| 22:26.01 | Galois-evariste | adobe FMLE to broadcast |
| 22:26.12 | Galois-evariste | and SCFH DFS to record |
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| 22:33.42 | Coolflip | anyone have a clue why this |
| 22:33.43 | Coolflip | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.47 | Coolflip | would stop a unit from moving |
| 22:34.08 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 22:34.23 | Unrea1 | Helral you think you can make an example i feel like im going no were |
| 22:34.53 | Coolflip | uh oh |
| 22:34.55 | Coolflip | i found out |
| 22:35.01 | Coolflip | i divided by 0 NOOOO |
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| 22:36.05 | Chainclaw | Anyone familiar with working with the pre-game menu? |
| 22:36.13 | slightlyrandom | Game Variants |
| 22:36.18 | Atlos | the universe is ready to implode on itself |
| 22:36.20 | slightlyrandom | There's a tutorial on SC2mapster.com |
| 22:36.39 | deathnight114 | There was a problem starting C:\Windows\system32\config\systemprofile\appdata\local\ebafahin.dll Access is denied. |
| 22:36.41 | Chainclaw | I mean, how do I properly use what teams players selected pre-game once they get in-game |
| 22:36.44 | deathnight114 | Anyone know what this means? |
| 22:37.00 | Chainclaw | Everyone ends up on crazy teams. Even Nexus Wars has this messed up, |
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| 22:39.48 | rrowland | animating this model is fucking ridiculous |
| 22:39.48 | rrowland | wtf |
| 22:41.09 | Atlos | hmm anybody know how to have a behavior kill the unit its on after its duration finishes? |
| 22:41.20 | Atlos | my ability is half working so far |
| 22:41.34 | deathnight114 | hm.... |
| 22:41.47 | deathnight114 | Is it a certain unit? |
| 22:41.57 | Atlos | basically when an overlord reaches a certain point |
| 22:42.03 | Atlos | it adds an 8 second timer to the overlord |
| 22:42.04 | Helral | Atlos: Effect - Suicide orso. |
| 22:42.10 | Atlos | if that timer finishes it creates a unit under it |
| 22:42.16 | Atlos | and when it does that I want the overlord to die as well |
| 22:42.23 | Helral | see the baneling suicide effect. since that kills the baneling. |
| 22:42.24 | deathnight114 | Hm, no idea |
| 22:42.41 | deathnight114 | I could figure out how to but i'm occupied atm :| |
| 22:42.53 | Atlos | Helral should I just add another 8 second behavior to apply a suicide as another effect final? |
| 22:42.55 | Technomancer | question: How do I change the dying effect on target my weapon has (for instance instead of them roasting up they freeze or something?) |
| 22:43.06 | Technomancer | im not talking about the impact from the attack itself |
| 22:43.15 | Technomancer | more like the way the target dies from it |
| 22:43.31 | slightlyrandom | Atlos: Make the effect applied by the behavior a set effect |
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| 22:43.35 | slightlyrandom | and put both your effects into the set |
| 22:43.36 | Helral | Atlos: use an effect set? |
| 22:43.44 | Helral | as slightlyrandom says :P |
| 22:43.45 | Vulfe | HI GUYS! |
| 22:43.46 | deathnight114 | Seriously, nobody can help me with this error..... There was a problem starting C:\Windows\system32\config\systemprofile\appdata\local\ebafahin.dll Access is denied. |
| 22:43.47 | Vulfe | :D |
| 22:43.55 | Atlos | I've no idea what that is but I'll look into it :P |
| 22:43.58 | slightlyrandom | Technomancer: It's the the damage. Death response or something similar |
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| 22:44.15 | Vulfe | I have a question about dependencies |
| 22:44.16 | Technomancer | actor, events? effect? |
| 22:44.18 | slightlyrandom | deathnight114: I can help. Get rid of Windows first, then I'll take it from there |
| 22:44.20 | Vailreth | hmm i know there used to be a field some where that you could set the depeletion level of minerals |
| 22:44.20 | corbo | hey |
| 22:44.26 | corbo | what kind of variable do I use |
| 22:44.31 | slightlyrandom | Boolean |
| 22:44.33 | Vulfe | Is there a way to make it so that my addition of dependencies to a map actually stays correctly when I save it? |
| 22:44.35 | deathnight114 | slightlyrandom, shut the fuck up, I can't get rid of windows alright? |
| 22:44.37 | corbo | if I wanna add values like |
| 22:44.39 | corbo | 0.2 |
| 22:44.39 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 22:44.40 | corbo | 0.2 |
| 22:44.41 | slightlyrandom | real |
| 22:44.41 | corbo | 0.2 |
| 22:44.43 | deathnight114 | I need windows for a bunch of stuff i do... |
| 22:44.43 | corbo | k |
| 22:44.44 | slightlyrandom | real |
| 22:44.52 | Vulfe | Right now everything that's based on an added dependency just disappears when I reopen the map |
| 22:44.57 | deathnight114 | like MAKING MUSIC FOR ONE... |
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| 22:45.21 | slightlyrandom | Technomancer: Effect - Death on the damage effect |
| 22:45.28 | slightlyrandom | Which one ? |
| 22:46.35 | deathnight114 | Fuck... fine... |
| 22:46.49 | Galois-evariste | deathnight |
| 22:46.52 | Galois-evariste | don't listen to that random bastard |
| 22:47.23 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.28 | Galois-evariste | i put him on my ignore list a long time ago |
| 22:47.31 | Vulfe | If anyone wants to answer my question |
| 22:47.32 | Atlos | yay that worked perfectly! |
| 22:47.33 | Galois-evariste | there are plenty of people around here who can help you |
| 22:47.33 | Vulfe | feel free |
| 22:47.35 | Atlos | set effect ftw |
| 22:47.47 | deathnight114 | That guy helped me out though when i was messin around with the editor |
| 22:48.02 | Galois-evariste | we've all helped out a lot of people when they were just messin around with the ditor |
| 22:48.05 | deathnight114 | But seriously, stop trying to get ppl to remove windows, I know someone else who thinks the same way |
| 22:48.07 | Galois-evariste | that's not a reason |
| 22:48.08 | Galois-evariste | its an excuse |
| 22:48.22 | deathnight114 | Windows has it's uses, and i have more uses for windows than linux |
| 22:48.26 | slightlyrandom | Well, it's the root cause of your problem |
| 22:48.37 | slightlyrandom | If you want specific windows help, might I suggest #windows ? |
| 22:48.50 | slightlyrandom | or www.microsoft.com |
| 22:48.52 | deathnight114 | well guess what, i NEED WINDOWS, removing windows is how i make my music |
| 22:48.57 | deathnight114 | and it's ##Windows |
| 22:49.00 | deathnight114 | Not #windows |
| 22:49.03 | Vailreth | darn i cantget it working ... eh well |
| 22:49.10 | slightlyrandom | I wouldn't know, was stabbingly blindly in the dark |
| 22:49.16 | Unrea1 | Vailreth |
| 22:49.17 | Chainclaw | this is #SC2Mapster, not #OSNERDS |
| 22:49.18 | Vailreth | it should just be a matter of changing the actor events .. |
| 22:49.23 | Unrea1 | Are you trying to change the model still? |
| 22:49.28 | deathnight114 | Chainlaw, stfu... |
| 22:49.35 | Vailreth | did you get it working? |
| 22:49.36 | slightlyrandom | Vailreth: Wouldn't it be a validator thing? |
| 22:49.44 | Unrea1 | No but we came up with an idea |
| 22:49.50 | Vailreth | whats the idea? |
| 22:50.07 | Unrea1 | Unrea1: I think you can use a dummy ability to trigger the hiding and revealing of the unit. and also spawn a dead unit with it in it's place. |
| 22:50.13 | Chainclaw | anyone have a link to the tutorial on game variants? |
| 22:50.48 | Vailreth | hmm. |
| 22:50.52 | Unrea1 | So hide the original Model or actor |
| 22:50.56 | Unrea1 | Replace it with another |
| 22:51.00 | Technomancer | slightlyrandom i've heard someone else contradict that effects - death is the proper one. Are you certain? |
| 22:51.02 | Unrea1 | Then hide that |
| 22:51.03 | slightlyrandom | Vailreth: Ah, it's a Behavior |
| 22:51.14 | slightlyrandom | Technomancer: Try to change it to Fire, and see what happens |
| 22:51.17 | Unrea1 | But like I said im not to good with Data editor |
| 22:51.24 | slightlyrandom | I'm pretty sure it works for me, using Blast |
| 22:51.25 | Vailreth | slightlyrandom: what do you mean? |
| 22:51.32 | Vulfe | Does anyone know how to keep the campaign dependency working!? This is so frustrating |
| 22:51.35 | slightlyrandom | Minerals (Mineral Field) |
| 22:51.40 | slightlyrandom | Linked from the Mineral Field actor |
| 22:51.50 | slightlyrandom | has some depletion thresholds as well as variants and that |
| 22:52.07 | Vailreth | where are the depetion thresholds? |
| 22:52.11 | slightlyrandom | That's what calls all the actor events on the actor, causing it to swap variants at the proper times |
| 22:52.20 | slightlyrandom | Behavior - Minerals (Mineral Field) |
| 22:52.34 | Vailreth | i am looking and i dont see them anywhere |
| 22:52.39 | slightlyrandom | then search :P |
| 22:52.42 | slightlyrandom | threshold |
| 22:52.59 | Vailreth | i see one field for it and its set to 750 |
| 22:54.27 | Unrea1 | I dont see it either :| |
| 22:54.47 | MindWorX` | FO REAL? |
| 22:55.09 | Unrea1 | MindworX |
| 22:55.14 | Unrea1 | Shits Unreal... |
| 22:55.21 | MindWorX` | :P |
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| 22:55.55 | slightlyrandom | Well, how many levels does it have ? |
| 22:56.07 | slightlyrandom | I don't recall more than two |
| 22:56.25 | Coolflip | Hmm |
| 22:56.33 | Vulfe | If anyone wants to talk about dependencies, PM me |
| 22:56.34 | Vulfe | :P |
| 22:56.36 | Coolflip | Whats the easiest way to call the number of players in a trigger |
| 22:56.50 | Unrea1 | Find its number |
| 22:56.56 | Coolflip | How so |
| 22:57.02 | Unrea1 | Phone book |
| 22:57.05 | corbo | D: |
| 22:57.15 | Vailreth | the minerals have four levels of depeltion |
| 22:57.21 | Vailreth | but its dinner so im gone |
| 22:57.23 | Vulfe | imo, just set a global variable to the number of players in the active players group |
| 22:57.25 | Unrea1 | kk |
| 22:57.27 | Vulfe | then call that global whenever you want |
| 22:57.28 | Helral | Coolflip: how do you mean? (Number of Players in Pllayergroup) ? |
| 22:59.49 | slightlyrandom | Vail|Dinner, Unrea1: well, since the actor uses the level of the behavior I mentioned, Behavior MineralFieldMinerals, I guess you just need to figure out how it gets four levels from three values |
| 23:00.19 | Unrea1 | Yeah... |
| 23:00.26 | nitroball | rrowland what do you need help animating? |
| 23:00.40 | Vulfe | Castanar Mesh is the coolest tile |
| 23:00.40 | Vulfe | ever |
| 23:01.06 | Chainclaw | anyone familiar with writing custom AI? |
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| 23:01.14 | corbo | is there a way |
| 23:01.18 | corbo | to text edit triggers? |
| 23:01.21 | Coolflip | I thought that was the way |
| 23:01.26 | Sixen | rrowland did custom AI! |
| 23:01.27 | Coolflip | forgot i had to convert some stuff thoug |
| 23:01.29 | Coolflip | coulcnt find it |
| 23:01.33 | Coolflip | OMG! |
| 23:01.35 | corbo | just load them all |
| 23:01.38 | Coolflip | Now learn how to code it |
| 23:01.39 | Coolflip | lol |
| 23:01.42 | corbo | into lines of text |
| 23:01.51 | corbo | so I can easily edit the values |
| 23:01.51 | corbo | D: |
| 23:02.02 | corbo | I'm not making this a hundred and thirty seven times this way |
| 23:02.34 | slightlyrandom | try Ctrl + D |
| 23:02.52 | slightlyrandom | and ctrl + F11 |
| 23:02.53 | Chainclaw | can I make AI that clicks on menu items? |
| 23:03.12 | corbo | actually |
| 23:03.14 | corbo | scratch that |
| 23:03.17 | corbo | I'm so stupid |
| 23:03.23 | corbo | there's no need to do it 137 times |
| 23:03.28 | corbo | I only need to do it two times |
| 23:03.29 | corbo | >.> |
| 23:04.15 | slightlyrandom | Chainclaw: You can probably fake it |
| 23:04.17 | slightlyrandom | Why ? |
| 23:04.38 | Chainclaw | I want to set my map up to have AI that automatically plays for missing players (if the game started without a full house, or someone quits) |
| 23:04.57 | slightlyrandom | Why do you need it to press buttons, though? Just call the action directly |
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| 23:05.04 | Chainclaw | Yeah, that's what I'm going to do now |
| 23:05.35 | Chainclaw | but now I have to split up my dialogue responses into Event: Dialogue Item Clicked -> Function Do Something |
| 23:06.54 | slightlyrandom | There a way to grab Aspect Ratio or Resolution info with triggers ? |
| 23:07.30 | MindWorX` | No |
| 23:07.38 | slightlyrandom | Bugger, that being possible would have been nice |
| 23:07.43 | MindWorX` | Yea |
| 23:08.02 | Chainclaw | where's the command to call a function from an event script? |
| 23:08.05 | MindWorX` | Especially since dialogs use a scale position, while mouse clicked use actual resolution coords |
| 23:08.14 | slightlyrandom | Now I'm down to plan E, and I really don't like this one |
| 23:08.29 | slightlyrandom | run trigger Chainclaw ? |
| 23:08.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster molster (6255092a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.85.9.42) |
| 23:09.02 | Chainclaw | That lets me select from other event scripts, I don't see the function in there |
| 23:09.17 | molster | any data editor pros on? |
| 23:09.29 | slightlyrandom | "Dont ask to ask, just ask!" |
| 23:10.29 | Chainclaw | can I have triggers that take in a variable? |
| 23:10.29 | Vulfe | Where is the castanar gate thing |
| 23:10.30 | Vulfe | like |
| 23:10.31 | molster | its to long to just ask if noone feels they are have mastered the DE =P |
| 23:10.32 | Vulfe | in the secret mission |
| 23:11.05 | molster | yes chainclow, called a "new even definition" |
| 23:11.13 | molster | event* |
| 23:11.15 | slightlyrandom | Well, I guess I could just stick my dialog relative to Top Let |
| 23:11.17 | slightlyrandom | left* |
| 23:11.26 | slightlyrandom | and have it flying somewhere in the middle if you use a shitty aspect ratio |
| 23:11.53 | Motive | Just curious, anyone here make Layfen RP? |
| 23:12.03 | Motive | Reactorex? :P |
| 23:12.37 | corbo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:12.43 | corbo | 10 seconds what? |
| 23:12.47 | corbo | game seconds? |
| 23:12.51 | corbo | real seconds? |
| 23:12.51 | Tordecybombo | How do you do exponentiation? |
| 23:12.53 | corbo | mango seconds? |
| 23:13.11 | Tordecybombo | Since there's no arithmetic operation |
| 23:13.17 | slightlyrandom | Time it and see |
| 23:13.19 | Tordecybombo | do i have to loop it? |
| 23:13.25 | Motive | I'm fairly sure there's a Power |
| 23:13.29 | antares- | corbo, i believe when it doesnt specify otherwise, it means game time |
| 23:13.31 | Tordecybombo | you sure? |
| 23:13.37 | Motive | Yup... |
| 23:13.37 | Motive | Pow |
| 23:13.43 | Tordecybombo | oh wow |
| 23:13.47 | corbo | bleh |
| 23:13.48 | Tordecybombo | let me check |
| 23:13.48 | Motive | Math -> Arithmetic -> Power |
| 23:13.49 | Motive | Lol |
| 23:13.49 | antares- | that's been the case in my testing, but i haven't tested that specific action so i can't be sure |
| 23:13.54 | corbo | how many seconds is a game second? |
| 23:13.58 | slightlyrandom | depends on speed |
| 23:14.00 | Motive | Depends. |
| 23:14.05 | corbo | oh screw you blizzard |
| 23:14.09 | Motive | Normal - Real time, Faster - faster than real time, etc. |
| 23:14.12 | corbo | on faster? |
| 23:14.16 | corbo | oh |
| 23:14.16 | slightlyrandom | faster is... 0.8 ? |
| 23:14.24 | slightlyrandom | Go find the value on the forums |
| 23:14.25 | corbo | so if I wanna do real time |
| 23:14.28 | corbo | should I just go normal? |
| 23:14.35 | slightlyrandom | That'd be the easiest |
| 23:14.37 | slightlyrandom | way |
| 23:14.43 | corbo | kay thanks |
| 23:14.45 | slightlyrandom | But, I don't think it's actually possible |
| 23:14.46 | molster | ProzaicMuze, you there |
| 23:14.49 | Tordecybombo | wait i dont see a Pow |
| 23:14.51 | corbo | why wouldn't it |
| 23:14.51 | corbo | be |
| 23:14.57 | Tordecybombo | is it a function? |
| 23:15.06 | slightlyrandom | Every time I've locked game speed to normal, it goes faster regardless :P |
| 23:15.18 | ProzaicMuze | hrm? |
| 23:15.31 | Motive | It's "Power" in GUI |
| 23:15.33 | Motive | "Pow" as Raw Data |
| 23:15.39 | Motive | libNtve_gf_Pow as Galaxy |
| 23:15.57 | slightlyrandom | Often times, the search function of the editor is useable |
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| 23:16.02 | slightlyrandom | To, you know, search |
| 23:16.02 | Motive | actually nvm |
| 23:16.04 | Motive | Pow() as Galaxy |
| 23:16.08 | Motive | didn't do what I think it did. Haha |
| 23:16.30 | Galois-evariste | yo yo yo |
| 23:16.31 | molster | got a question for you, can you send me a PM in this @prozaicmuze |
| 23:16.34 | Galois-evariste | are there any terrain artists here? |
| 23:16.46 | Galois-evariste | by that i mean people who are better at terrain making than anything else? |
| 23:17.07 | Helral | Sixen: you there? |
| 23:17.17 | Sixen | maybe |
| 23:17.22 | Helral | XD |
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| 23:17.43 | Chainclaw | figured out how to call my stupid function |
| 23:17.47 | Helral | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/dialog-based-inventory/ <-- like that asset? |
| 23:17.54 | slightlyrandom | ProzaicMuze: Dont do it! |
| 23:17.55 | Tordecybombo | i miss sixen, he always disappears on us :/ |
| 23:17.59 | slightlyrandom | I want to learn, too! |
| 23:18.21 | Chainclaw | I gave my function a return value (bool), then in the trigger I wanted to call it from, I created boolean variable. Then in the actions for that trigger, I called "Set Variable", setting the boolean variable to the return value of my function |
| 23:19.00 | Sixen | I haven't gone anywhere |
| 23:19.04 | MindWorX` | Helral, did you implement the targetting curser? |
| 23:19.42 | Helral | MindWorX`: nope. This is the first release version, known problem: you can't see the item that you're moving. you can't drop items. |
| 23:19.51 | MindWorX` | Ah |
| 23:20.15 | Helral | dropping will be added first, then something about fixing the moving. |
| 23:20.19 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah sixen |
| 23:20.23 | ProzaicMuze | You're never here! |
| 23:20.31 | ProzaicMuze | You don't talk to us anymore |
| 23:20.34 | ProzaicMuze | Or buy us flowers |
| 23:20.38 | Vulfe | This is so annoying. |
| 23:20.39 | Vulfe | PROZAIC |
| 23:20.40 | Vulfe | ITS YOU |
| 23:20.41 | corbo | yeah sixen |
| 23:20.42 | corbo | wtf |
| 23:20.42 | Vulfe | D: |
| 23:20.44 | ProzaicMuze | It's me |
| 23:20.47 | corbo | You're forgotten every single one of us |
| 23:20.48 | corbo | QQ |
| 23:20.52 | corbo | everyone let's QQ |
| 23:20.54 | Vulfe | Prozaic, I have a question for you |
| 23:20.58 | MindWorX` | Anyways, Helral, It rocks hard as it uses the builtin inventory for storing, which is awesome |
| 23:20.58 | Vulfe | since nobody else will listen |
| 23:21.10 | MindWorX` | And it reads items using Catalog natives i assume? |
| 23:21.13 | MindWorX` | Which is also awesome |
| 23:21.15 | Helral | yup |
| 23:21.18 | Vulfe | Is there a way to make it so that when I add a dependency to a map, it actually stays properly? |
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| 23:21.26 | Dakafall | Hey all |
| 23:21.33 | Helral | you can create items just using the data editor, no need to notify my inventory system what items you have. |
| 23:21.46 | wOlfLinG | So, seeing as i am bored right now, does anyone want me to attempt to write a trigger tutorial? |
| 23:21.50 | Helral | you can restrict the equipment panel using itemclasses. |
| 23:21.57 | Unrea1 | Helral that is pimp |
| 23:22.12 | Unrea1 | Some Diablo 2.5 action goin on there |
| 23:22.16 | Dakafall | I want to move the Equipment and Inventory buttons to the center of the screen. Is it possible to do that? |
| 23:22.58 | ProzaicMuze | @Vulfe - yes, you can add dependencies and have them stay. All my maps have the dependencies and work properly |
| 23:23.01 | wOlfLinG | Dunno. If it is, we havn't found it yet |
| 23:23.10 | Dakafall | w0lfLing if your bored, you should write a save/load tutorial :D |
| 23:23.32 | Dakafall | Dont know why I spelled your name with a 0 |
| 23:24.12 | Dakafall | Trying to write a system from the old WC3 one, but some of the actions are different |
| 23:24.22 | wOlfLinG | nor do i :/. Also, i have no idea about banks. So i'd have to look at a tutorial to write a tutorial xD |
| 23:24.58 | Helral | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/dialog-based-inventory/pages/preview/ingame-screenshots/ <-- ingame screenshots as it says of the inventory system. |
| 23:25.20 | wOlfLinG | So anyone want a library made for them or something? Something trigger related :/ |
| 23:25.26 | ProzaicMuze | lol Vulfe, you still there? |
| 23:26.19 | Saeris | hmmmm |
| 23:26.33 | Saeris | prozaic think you've got time to help me? |
| 23:27.49 | Vulfe | Vulfe here |
| 23:27.51 | Vulfe | sorry Prozaic |
| 23:27.52 | Vulfe | food |
| 23:28.09 | ProzaicMuze | What's up, Saeris? |
| 23:28.22 | Vulfe | My problem is that when I add the campaign map dependency to a map and close it and open it again, all the data and units on the map and everything will be totally gone |
| 23:28.24 | ProzaicMuze | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.34 | Vulfe | the ones that pertain to that dependency |
| 23:28.42 | Vulfe | order matters? |
| 23:28.44 | Vulfe | O_O |
| 23:28.44 | Saeris | well finish with vulfe first. i might take a while. still working on that aura that spreads the aura i was working on earlier this week |
| 23:28.48 | ProzaicMuze | Yes, it does |
| 23:28.52 | ProzaicMuze | It's fine |
| 23:28.56 | ProzaicMuze | I can do multiple at once :) |
| 23:28.56 | Vulfe | How does the order work |
| 23:29.00 | Saeris | alright |
| 23:29.02 | ProzaicMuze | I'm helping a couple of people via query as well lol |
| 23:29.03 | wOlfLinG | So what would be a reasonably complicated, yet useful library to make? |
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| 23:29.18 | Helral | Sixen: the thing I actually wanted to ask you I already figured out myself. :P I didn't notice that primary category dropdown box. only the secondary category checklists. so I had it listed as 3dmodel while it was a library.... |
| 23:29.33 | Sixen | oh |
| 23:29.35 | Sixen | you can change it |
| 23:29.46 | Sixen | sorry, playing with my boss |
| 23:29.50 | Helral | Sixen: yeah already fixed it at the library. |
| 23:29.50 | Sixen | I'll help if you need it |
| 23:29.54 | Vulfe | Prozaic, should I just move the campaign to the top, and that will fix everything? |
| 23:29.54 | Sixen | but? :P |
| 23:29.55 | Vulfe | XD |
| 23:29.56 | ProzaicMuze | You should tell your boss to give me money, because I'm cool |
| 23:30.00 | wOlfLinG | Zomg! Sixen has a boss? D: |
| 23:30.06 | Saeris | vufle basically if you want to include campaign units, put that at the top, melee below that, liberty mod at the bottom. works for all my maps, keeps everything included |
| 23:30.07 | Sixen | the big boss. CEO of curse. |
| 23:30.18 | Vulfe | all right Saeris |
| 23:30.20 | Helral | Sixen: btw, it sounds dirty Sixen... playing around with your boss.... |
| 23:30.25 | Saeris | anyways |
| 23:30.29 | Vulfe | I probably could have figured this out earlier if I had noticed the up/down button |
| 23:30.32 | Sixen | lol |
| 23:30.35 | ProzaicMuze | @Vulfe - my dependencies are Lib Story (Camp), Lib (Camp), Lib (Mod) |
| 23:30.37 | ProzaicMuze | In that order |
| 23:30.41 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 23:30.43 | Vulfe | that's mine |
| 23:30.43 | Vulfe | mmk |
| 23:30.45 | Vulfe | goodgood |
| 23:30.49 | Vulfe | thanks Proze. |
| 23:30.50 | Helral | Sixen: anyhow you should check out my newest library :P |
| 23:30.52 | ProzaicMuze | np |
| 23:31.02 | Tordecybombo | im gonna put an ELO rating in my map, just for fun |
| 23:31.08 | Saeris | prozaic my problem right now is i can't figure out a way to make sure the aura falls off all the linked units when the source unit is no longer within range of any of the linked units |
| 23:31.18 | Saeris | if you need i'll explain the whole system |
| 23:31.28 | ProzaicMuze | Validator - Enumerate Area |
| 23:31.34 | wOlfLinG | Sixen, you seen my scoreboard library yet? |
| 23:31.34 | ProzaicMuze | Put this in the Remove field of the behavior - buff |
| 23:31.42 | Dakafall | Im not sure if anyone has, but has anyone found a working save/load system? Id like to see if I could try to implement it into my mpa |
| 23:31.44 | Tordecybombo | can i see your scorebaord library ? ;3 |
| 23:31.47 | ProzaicMuze | I'm assuming that you have a buff with a duration |
| 23:31.58 | ProzaicMuze | And that you want it to be removed when the source unit is out of range? |
| 23:32.05 | wOlfLinG | Tordecybombo: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/scoreboard-library/ |
| 23:32.08 | Tordecybombo | im using banks to save ratings |
| 23:32.09 | Saeris | yes and no |
| 23:32.14 | Saeris | here it'd be better if i explained |
| 23:32.18 | Tordecybombo | still not exactly sure how to get banks to work yet |
| 23:32.24 | Tordecybombo | is there an indepth tutorial? |
| 23:32.26 | Dakafall | Bank are kind of odd |
| 23:32.29 | Dakafall | banks* |
| 23:32.41 | Tordecybombo | i found a vid but it doesnt help much since the map to download is EU |
| 23:32.52 | Tordecybombo | so i cant see any variable names |
| 23:32.56 | Dakafall | Tordecybombo, can you share me that link? |
| 23:32.58 | Saeris | so the effect i'm trying to achieve here is that when the Source unit comes within range of another unit, that unit gains the aura, then any units close to them get the aura and so on |
| 23:33.13 | Dakafall | Man, my sentences just dont make sense today |
| 23:33.14 | Saeris | if any of those linked units are not in range of the Source unit or connected via this chain |
| 23:33.19 | Saeris | they lose the aura |
| 23:33.28 | corbo | hmmm |
| 23:33.31 | Saeris | i don't want linked units keeping the aura up on each other |
| 23:33.37 | Saeris | so far i can get the aura to spread |
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| 23:33.41 | Saeris | but it won't fall off |
| 23:33.43 | corbo | how to damage units when lava raises? |
| 23:34.16 | ProzaicMuze | So it DOESN'T have a duration? It's just a perma-buff that is on when the unit is in range? |
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| 23:34.19 | Saeris | the only way i can get the aura to spread is to have the buff have a periodic effect |
| 23:34.30 | Saeris | no, the buff has no duration, it's validator buff does however |
| 23:34.31 | Colawaffle | hey guys |
| 23:34.42 | ProzaicMuze | Validator buff? |
| 23:34.47 | ProzaicMuze | lol what exactly is your effect chain? |
| 23:34.50 | Tordecybombo | we should make a standardized rating mod, that rates the skill rating of our players |
| 23:34.53 | Colawaffle | is there any way to set the skybox other than trigger? |
| 23:34.59 | Helral | night all |
| 23:35.08 | Saeris | it's hard to explain because the system doesn't work quite right |
| 23:35.08 | Dakafall | Tordecybombo, do you have a link to that bank vid? |
| 23:35.15 | Saeris | let me see if i can explain it |
| 23:35.45 | Tordecybombo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/2837-video-tutorial-banks/ |
| 23:35.49 | Tordecybombo | it might be outdated though |
| 23:35.57 | Dakafall | Thanks! |
| 23:36.05 | Saeris | So I have an aura, Armored Shell (Aura) that periodically checks for units to spread the behavior. so, Effect - Search Area - Apply Behavior > Armored Shell (Buff) |
| 23:36.10 | Tordecybombo | im currently looking at the triggers of another to map to help me figure out banks |
| 23:36.10 | corbo | This tutorial uses ground height = position of unit |
| 23:36.16 | corbo | where the hell is that? |
| 23:36.16 | corbo | D: |
| 23:36.18 | Saeris | actually |
| 23:36.22 | Saeris | i messed that up |
| 23:36.54 | ProzaicMuze | Buff > Search > Apply > Buff > Search > Apply > Buff etc? |
| 23:37.03 | Saeris | Effect Search Area - > Armored Shell (Set) > Apply Behavior Armored Shell (Buff) and Apply Behavior Armored Shell (Validator) |
| 23:37.35 | ProzaicMuze | Why are you applying 2 buffs? |
| 23:37.46 | Saeris | it's the only way i can get the buff to fall off |
| 23:37.49 | Saeris | duration won't do it |
| 23:38.02 | Saeris | and that only works if the linked unit is removed from the chain |
| 23:38.23 | Saeris | i've tried duration and it stays on there infinitely |
| 23:38.29 | ProzaicMuze | So in other words, the units need to be in range of at least one other unit in order to keep the buff? |
| 23:38.49 | ProzaicMuze | One other unit with the buff, that is |
| 23:39.05 | Saeris | the linked units have to be in range of each other and at least one linked unit has to be in range of the source. that's how it's suppsoed to work |
| 23:39.35 | ProzaicMuze | That might not be possible |
| 23:39.35 | Saeris | right now, if the source unit touches a unit, they all get the aura and they are able to keep it up on each other without the source unit touching any of them |
| 23:40.12 | ProzaicMuze | Essentially in order to have the buff remove, you can apply a Validator - Enumerate Area |
| 23:40.28 | ProzaicMuze | this searchs for units in a given range and then Validates - Compare Behavior Count |
| 23:40.43 | Saeris | hmmm |
| 23:40.46 | ProzaicMuze | If the validator can't find a unit in range with the behavior buff, it removes the behavior |
| 23:41.05 | Saeris | alright |
| 23:41.07 | ProzaicMuze | The problem, is I don't see a way to use this AND have it check for link connections without a VERY elaborate buff system |
| 23:41.14 | ProzaicMuze | essentially you'd have to have 2-3 buffs that stack |
| 23:41.21 | ProzaicMuze | The first buff applies the actual benefit |
| 23:41.32 | ProzaicMuze | You would then need to have the Source unit apply a secondary buff |
| 23:41.56 | Saeris | well here's another idea i had that i couldn't get working |
| 23:42.06 | ProzaicMuze | You'd have to prevent the secondary buff from spreading |
| 23:42.08 | ProzaicMuze | But |
| 23:42.17 | ProzaicMuze | It would allow you to make a validator that checks for the secondary buff as well |
| 23:42.23 | ProzaicMuze | No secondary buff, no primary buff |
| 23:42.26 | Saeris | i thought it might be possible for the source unit to spread the behavior, and the Buff would only search when it's initially applied and refreshed, instead of a periodic |
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| 23:42.39 | Saeris | but, i couldn't get the search area effect to fire |
| 23:42.43 | ProzaicMuze | Thus for each link you want to be able to validate is connected to the source, you'd need N-1 Buffs AND Validators |
| 23:42.46 | ProzaicMuze | If that makes sense at all |
| 23:42.47 | Saeris | like it does with a periodic |
| 23:43.11 | Saeris | kinda |
| 23:43.24 | ProzaicMuze | So your other idea is to have it search as the Effect - Initial? |
| 23:43.31 | Saeris | yea |
| 23:43.38 | ProzaicMuze | And allow buff stacks to refresh instead of stack? |
| 23:44.01 | ProzaicMuze | This would cause problems though |
| 23:44.05 | Saeris | so it only fires the search when it's applied, then it would fall off at the end of it's duration. but if the source unit is in range of any of the units, it would refresh the duration |
| 23:44.06 | ProzaicMuze | Mainly because it's an infinite loop |
| 23:44.14 | ProzaicMuze | 2 units in range would spam eachother since you can refresh |
| 23:44.35 | drspinaltap | hey hopefully this is an easy question...i imported a ghoul as a custom character everything works fine. however, on death i have set up an event just like a zergling where it gets the deathcustom of zerg small unit. it never displays even thought it looks setup correctly. is there something missing on the model maybe like a node inorder for the blood and guts to show up? |
| 23:44.58 | Saeris | buffs currently cannot stack, as they have a max count of 1 |
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| 23:45.20 | ProzaicMuze | Well, yeah, but with your alternative choice, rather than stacking they refresh whenever applied |
| 23:45.41 | ProzaicMuze | Thus if 2 units are in range of each other, A would refresh B which would refresh A ad nauseum |
| 23:45.51 | Saeris | well |
| 23:46.18 | Saeris | if then i could put a validator that says you can't spread the behavior to a unit that already has it |
| 23:46.37 | Saeris | then they would fall off and would only re-apply when the duration ends |
| 23:46.38 | Saeris | except |
| 23:46.42 | ProzaicMuze | Wouldn't that prevent chaining then? |
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| 23:46.43 | Saeris | for when the source unit is in range |
| 23:46.56 | drspinaltap | hey hopefully this is an easy question...i imported a ghoul as a custom character everything works fine. however, on death i have set up an event just like a zergling where it gets the deathcustom of zerg small unit. it never displays even thought it looks setup correctly. is there something missing on the model maybe like a node inorder for the blood and guts to show up? |
| 23:47.03 | ProzaicMuze | if that's the case, then just make a validator that checks for the source unit |
| 23:47.15 | ProzaicMuze | If you want the aura to chain, you need the N-1 buff/validator setup |
| 23:47.30 | Saeris | hmmm |
| 23:47.32 | ProzaicMuze | if you just want the aura to refresh when the source is in range, you just need the Source Buff, the Spreading Buff and a validator |
| 23:48.43 | Saeris | even then it still might not work, but i'll try it |
| 23:49.02 | ProzaicMuze | mmk |
| 23:49.06 | Saeris | would you like me to send you the test file so you can see how it works for yourself? |
| 23:49.06 | Dakafall | Whats the difference between picked player and triggering player? |
| 23:49.13 | ProzaicMuze | sure |
| 23:49.15 | Saeris | i've been struggling with this for days now |
| 23:49.25 | Saeris | alright, gimme a sec |
| 23:51.17 | Saeris | under effects behaviors and validators, if you just search Armored Shell it will show you all the things i've made |
| 23:51.18 | Chainclaw | how can I order a unit to attack move in a trigger? |
| 23:51.26 | Saeris | and you can run the map to test the current behavior |
| 23:51.33 | Chainclaw | Dakafall, picked player is used if you use the "pick players" loop |
| 23:51.33 | Saeris | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/golemwarsclassic/files/1-chain-aura-test/ |
| 23:51.46 | Chainclaw | triggering player is the player related to whatever caused your trigger to happen. |
| 23:52.00 | Saeris | fyi Prozaic, I'm trying to copy the behavior of Slivers, if you're familiar with magic the gathering |
| 23:52.02 | corbo | seriously |
| 23:52.12 | ProzaicMuze | I am, Saeris |
| 23:52.12 | corbo | where's this "add 1 lava damage to unit" behaviour |
| 23:52.13 | corbo | ... |
| 23:52.30 | rrowland | lol slivers |
| 23:52.46 | Gao | Okay! I have a serious problem here! |
| 23:53.13 | arturusfury | shoot Gao |
| 23:53.14 | Gao | I'm trying to get this Port Junker to build buildings like an SCV. I added the "SCV - Build Structures" thingummy to it, I gave it the buttons and everything, but it won't work! |
| 23:53.15 | Gao | MEANWHILE |
| 23:53.19 | Chainclaw | I tried using the "issue order" command, but I couldn't find attack in there. I want to have some units attack move to a specific location |
| 23:53.36 | Gao | I gave the new building to a regular SCV, and IT can build the building just fine! So the problem's the Port Junker! |
| 23:53.36 | Gao | SO! |
| 23:53.54 | Gao | I'm thinking that MAYBE it'd be easier to just replace the SCV's model with that of the Port Junker. Can I do that? |
| 23:54.10 | arturusfury | You could |
| 23:54.23 | Gao | No clue how to do that, though! |
| 23:54.40 | arturusfury | lol 1 second I wanna check out adding SCV abilities to another unit |
| 23:55.06 | Gao | Can you try doing it specifically to the Port Junker, arturusfury? That is, if it makes a difference. |
| 23:55.13 | arturusfury | yup |
| 23:55.15 | Chainclaw | figured out my problem |
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| 23:56.03 | Komodo1138 | Chainclaw, did you click the ( beside ability command ? |
| 23:56.37 | Dakafall | Well, I can get this stupid thing to show a dialog for the triggering player, but I cant get it to hide the UI... |
| 23:57.07 | Saeris | also prozaic, i intentionally only want allied units to receive the benefits. it's not just an apply to all creatures of type mechanic. only creatures within range of each other will get the buff, if a source unit is there. |
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| 23:58.06 | Chainclaw | I used the issue order action |
| 23:58.27 | Chainclaw | The available actions was missing what I was looking for. Then I clicked the (, and was able to change it from "unit order" to "order targetting poitn" |
| 23:58.45 | Chainclaw | then the attack ability showed up in the list of available abilities |
| 23:58.53 | Komodo1138 | ya, i was going to tell you that. that messed me up for hours. |
| 23:59.13 | Chainclaw | yeah, that was confusing |
| 23:59.27 | Tordecybombo | ratings weeeee |
| 23:59.30 | Saeris | bacl, net cut out |
| 23:59.36 | Tordecybombo | what |
| 23:59.36 | Komodo1138 | now whats pissing me off is when i import a model sometimes it shows up as a sphere |
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