| 00:00.09 | slightlyrandom | ah, clever |
| 00:00.46 | Mittsies | yeah, good idea walrus. |
| 00:00.57 | Mittsies | make the button still display the 10 life cost |
| 00:01.02 | Mittsies | but just deal 10 damage instead. |
| 00:01.05 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/script/errors/ by sixen |
| 00:01.13 | Motive | You'd have to add a validator, too, for the 10 hp |
| 00:01.21 | sugoi | tehwalrus: oh hey |
| 00:01.22 | Motive | so you couldn't use it with 9hp, but you could with 10hp (even if it did end up killing you) |
| 00:01.29 | sugoi | i bet that's why you can't, it's a cost, not an effect |
| 00:01.31 | sugoi | to lose 10 |
| 00:01.35 | sugoi | thus, you can't afford it |
| 00:02.16 | Mittsies | yep. |
| 00:02.20 | Mittsies | I'm trying to get an infestor to look like it's attacking something, but it has no animation. what do? |
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| 00:02.38 | slightlyrandom | It has some casting animations Mittsies |
| 00:02.53 | slightlyrandom | Use those |
| 00:02.57 | Mittsies | is there anyway to rip off the queens claws and slap them on the infestor? |
| 00:03.21 | slightlyrandom | Heh, not unless you're a modeller |
| 00:03.27 | Mittsies | damn. |
| 00:03.38 | slightlyrandom | You can stick a spine crawler on it, though |
| 00:03.53 | tehwalrus | how complicated is that? |
| 00:04.01 | slightlyrandom | No idea, never done it myself |
| 00:04.06 | slightlyrandom | But there is a tutorial for it |
| 00:04.11 | slightlyrandom | Uberlisk, or something |
| 00:04.37 | slightlyrandom | But Mittsies, it has attacklike animations |
| 00:04.44 | Kakera | I found how to do it, but the actor type is ability, yet it is an item... when you pick up the grenade in-game, it treats it as an ability in the campaign |
| 00:04.45 | slightlyrandom | It does shit when it casts spells |
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| 00:06.54 | Kakera | My real challenge now is to transfer the ability's properties to the item |
| 00:07.03 | Kakera | Which... isn't really possible, at least from my skills. :| |
| 00:07.13 | Rodrigo | Hey, you guyz watched the new Debates video? |
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| 00:07.22 | sugoi | tehwalrus: i expected to see a -10 effect in data->units->marine->effects->stimpack |
| 00:07.27 | Rodrigo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTU__w-Eyt4 |
| 00:07.35 | sugoi | tehwalrus: no i didn't, i mean: |
| 00:08.09 | sugoi | i thought i would see a box there (on the right) which lists the cost types where i could put a -10 |
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| 00:09.55 | slightlyrandom | It's on the ability |
| 00:09.57 | sugoi | tehwalrus: found it |
| 00:10.10 | sugoi | view linked object |
| 00:10.15 | slightlyrandom | But you want to remove that, and give it an effect that deals damage |
| 00:10.35 | sugoi | slightlyrandom: i removed that already, now i'm trying to find the 'vitals' array in the effect |
| 00:10.40 | sugoi | the question is...where is the 'effect' |
| 00:10.50 | slightlyrandom | You want one more effect |
| 00:10.53 | sugoi | so, view linked object takes you there |
| 00:11.23 | tehwalrus | where did you find it? |
| 00:11.24 | slightlyrandom | The stimpack ability currently applies a stimpack effect and costs 10 hp |
| 00:11.27 | sugoi | slightlyrandom: that could do it, but it works as well to go to the cost |
| 00:11.46 | slightlyrandom | You want to remove the cost, make the stimpack fire a Set of effects, one being the stim, the other being 10 damage dealt to caster |
| 00:11.51 | sugoi | tehwalrus: wish i had a how to vid, but i'll redo it to explain it |
| 00:12.02 | slightlyrandom | Well, don't listen to me :) |
| 00:12.08 | slightlyrandom | I'm a noob with abilities anyway |
| 00:12.14 | got_Ammo | anyone want to play SpaceBound (map I recently made - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/spacebound )? - I could use people playing it to help game the stupid popularity system |
| 00:12.38 | tehwalrus | is it good? lol, no offense |
| 00:13.07 | got_Ammo | I don't have many opinions other than my own to judge that |
| 00:13.17 | got_Ammo | if you like bound maps, it's good |
| 00:13.24 | sugoi | tehwalrus: from the marine unit, right click the Effect->Stimpack |
| 00:13.27 | tehwalrus | whats bound? |
| 00:13.43 | got_Ammo | maps where you control a unit through a series of difficult obstacle courses |
| 00:14.08 | sugoi | then...you know, i'm not sure what even works, i'll test it then report |
| 00:14.23 | got_Ammo | there's a short video on the page I linked of the first level |
| 00:14.23 | sugoi | slightlyrandom: i'm taking all your comments in :) just trying to consider the multiplicity of options |
| 00:14.28 | tehwalrus | sugoi: sure. i'm there, but can't see the cost still |
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| 00:14.40 | sugoi | tehwalrus: yeah, got lost when i back tracked |
| 00:14.40 | sugoi | haha |
| 00:14.49 | sugoi | i'll get it working, then report |
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| 00:15.48 | Bambi | hi'ya :o |
| 00:16.20 | Bambi | whats this ircs inf--- |
| 00:16.26 | Bambi | ./statusftw |
| 00:16.34 | Bambi | D: |
| 00:18.34 | tehwalrus | yeah, so i'm looking at stimpack and cant even find the part where it applies the bonus to attack speed :/ |
| 00:19.10 | Bambi | its part of the behavior of... uhm... i think an actor that is applied when the skill is activated |
| 00:19.18 | Bambi | its a layer-down in there somewhere |
| 00:19.21 | sugoi | tehwalrus: yeah...i was going down that path too |
| 00:19.32 | sugoi | but, 2muchdew, afk2p |
| 00:19.37 | AsaPhelps | its probably under modification in the behavior |
| 00:19.44 | AsaPhelps | dew does make you pee a lot |
| 00:19.56 | SD|GhosT | lol |
| 00:20.12 | tehwalrus | asap: modification seems to be empty |
| 00:20.20 | AsaPhelps | look under combat |
| 00:20.26 | AsaPhelps | attack speed modification: 1.5 |
| 00:21.12 | AsaPhelps | find it? |
| 00:21.29 | tehwalrus | nope |
| 00:21.38 | tehwalrus | i dont think you can up attack speed form in here |
| 00:21.38 | AsaPhelps | go to stimpack behavior |
| 00:21.46 | Fromethius | ? it is definitely 100% in the behavior modification |
| 00:21.56 | Fromethius | attack speed multiplier 1.5 |
| 00:22.20 | Fromethius | combat tab |
| 00:22.21 | AsaPhelps | modifcation, combat tag, very first line |
| 00:22.24 | AsaPhelps | tab* |
| 00:22.30 | tehwalrus | lol, apparently im blind - somehow i missed it |
| 00:22.52 | tehwalrus | kwell, i'll be quiet now |
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| 00:25.16 | tehwalrus | the cost of 10 health is right there in abilities-> stimpack -> cost -> 10 life |
| 00:25.26 | tehwalrus | i forget who was asking what |
| 00:25.31 | sugoi | tehwalrus: ok back (got toast too) |
| 00:25.34 | sugoi | i was :) |
| 00:25.51 | Phaos | anyone know how to make ramps not look strange on "man made" cliffs. the ramps tend to push too far into the terrain on the upper cliff. when I look at levels made by blizzard the ramps don't seem to do that :S |
| 00:25.53 | sugoi | yes, that's the cost, not to add cost to behavior, rather than right on the ability |
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| 00:26.06 | sugoi | s/not to add/now to add/ |
| 00:26.30 | Bambi | Rawr. |
| 00:27.08 | Phaos | never mind. I worked it out. ramps only behave on diagonals -_ |
| 00:27.10 | Phaos | -_- |
| 00:27.33 | sugoi | holy awesome purl! |
| 00:27.36 | Kakera | Hey, I thought about it |
| 00:27.45 | sugoi | i never knew of such a bot |
| 00:27.49 | Sevenation | woot! |
| 00:27.50 | sugoi | is in love with purl |
| 00:27.50 | Kakera | Is it possible to make an item use an ability? |
| 00:27.55 | Sevenation | I got frontpaged! |
| 00:28.06 | sugoi | woot! :) |
| 00:28.13 | AsaPhelps | probably kakera |
| 00:28.33 | Kakera | If that's the case, then all our range and aoe target problems are solved |
| 00:28.49 | AsaPhelps | and if its not? |
| 00:29.08 | Kakera | Then I'm screwed and I will have to forget about using items with AoE effects like grenades |
| 00:29.28 | tehwalrus | stimpakc behavior effect ->initial link to a new effect that deals ten damage to the caster |
| 00:29.42 | Rodrigo | Hey, check the new debates video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTU__w-Eyt4 |
| 00:29.43 | Rodrigo | im going |
| 00:29.45 | Rodrigo | see ya :) |
| 00:29.55 | AsaPhelps | kakera/anyone, do you have any idea about how to change a missile's mover, or to make it change height but not be able to move? |
| 00:29.56 | tehwalrus | from the 'stimpack behavior'-> 'effect ->initial' add to a new effect that deals ten damage to the caster |
| 00:30.33 | Kakera | I've no idea... I'm pretty bad with the editor, most of what I've done so far (that is an hero and about 7 items) were made from following guides |
| 00:31.03 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 00:31.15 | Kakera | I've no idea if I ever will finish this. I just really want to see an rpg like it done so bad, while I'm waiting I can't help but try my hand at it |
| 00:31.32 | Kakera | If I finish it it's gonna be full of bugs and unplayable. |
| 00:31.38 | AsaPhelps | I made this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QVBHq4PnAY, but I want the missiles to "drop" like in the alpha/beta mothership |
| 00:34.12 | Kakera | I think |
| 00:34.29 | Kakera | You're gonna have to make a custom unit from every unit that uses missile attacks |
| 00:34.37 | Kakera | And a custom of their missile attack too |
| 00:34.47 | Kakera | So they get affected by an effect from the shield |
| 00:34.59 | AsaPhelps | I was thinking about that |
| 00:35.10 | AsaPhelps | where it makes a dummy unit at the end |
| 00:35.13 | AsaPhelps | but it froze my editor |
| 00:35.33 | Kakera | See what I mean about my skillless self; I can think of it, but I couldn't possibly script it |
| 00:36.31 | AsaPhelps | everyone starts somewhere |
| 00:39.14 | Kakera | I don't wanna start somewhere. >.> If I finish my map, I won't make another; I already don't really have the time to make a map as it stands. In about three weeks college restarts, and then I still wanna play Starcraft 2 and I'll probably play WoW too and all |
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| 00:40.03 | wOlfLinG | I am SO entering the popukarity contest :D |
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| 00:40.06 | m50 | do like me, don't make a full map, just play around |
| 00:40.07 | wOlfLinG | popularity* |
| 00:40.11 | m50 | and make amusing stuff |
| 00:41.21 | Kakera | With work, college, SC2, WoW, I probably won't even have the time to do anything else. |
| 00:42.16 | wOlfLinG | Also, why is my map in the same vote as bumper cars on the minigame contest? D: I have no chance! |
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| 00:45.50 | Nesetalis | how can you create a spotlight? |
| 00:45.51 | wOlfLinG | Also, it's gonna be really funny to see all the maps on the first page as ones made for the contest :D |
| 00:46.05 | Nesetalis | i swear i recall seeing them in game.. but the only lights i can find are whole map lights |
| 00:47.27 | AsaPhelps | doesn't raynor have a flashlight effect or behavior |
| 00:47.41 | SD|GhosT | the sniper varient does |
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| 00:48.02 | wOlfLinG | theres like 5 raynors |
| 00:48.03 | Nesetalis | looking to do something like a bright flash around an explosion, to light up the terrain |
| 00:48.07 | AsaPhelps | kakera, quit wow for sc2 imo |
| 00:48.10 | wOlfLinG | Raynor arena xD |
| 00:48.17 | Kakera | Naw |
| 00:48.36 | Kakera | Some might say I'm in the wrong mindset, but I bought SC for the single player |
| 00:48.40 | Kakera | Same for SC2 |
| 00:48.59 | AsaPhelps | i bought wow for the single player |
| 00:49.08 | Phaos | yah |
| 00:49.11 | `MindWorX | lol |
| 00:49.11 | Kakera | SC2 won't last forever, once I'm done with single player achievements and maybe my map, I'll play some fun maps and then probably stop until the xpac |
| 00:49.20 | AsaPhelps | on my server it was pretty much single player |
| 00:49.35 | AsaPhelps | sc2 won't last forever, but sc lasted 10 years |
| 00:49.45 | AsaPhelps | at least for koreans |
| 00:49.49 | Kakera | Kind of the same reason why I bought WoW; pve and not pvp. |
| 00:49.49 | Phaos | sc lasted 12 years |
| 00:50.11 | AsaPhelps | even war3 is alive thanks to some map called dot... something |
| 00:50.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Kakera, that proves very little, you are just saying you arn't the type to really get into a game like Starcraft, that is like saying Starcraft 1 would never work because of the same reasons. |
| 00:51.17 | Kakera | I -never- said the game would never work. |
| 00:51.23 | Kakera | I just said I don't like pvp. |
| 00:51.29 | P_R_Deltoid | SC2 won't last forever |
| 00:51.30 | P_R_Deltoid | " |
| 00:51.36 | P_R_Deltoid | you mean for yourself? |
| 00:51.42 | Kakera | For myself, yes. |
| 00:51.44 | P_R_Deltoid | Aw |
| 00:51.46 | P_R_Deltoid | nevermind then! |
| 00:51.52 | Phaos | some people just like RTS more than they do RPG. therefore people like RTS will probably make sc2 last for a very long time. you might not be one to stick around because your obviously not one of those people. but point made |
| 00:52.07 | Phaos | that like* |
| 00:52.09 | P_R_Deltoid | what was the point? |
| 00:52.10 | P_R_Deltoid | :| |
| 00:52.18 | P_R_Deltoid | "some people don't like some types of videogames" ? |
| 00:52.30 | Phaos | that a tree makes a sound when falling in the forest with no one around to hear it |
| 00:52.37 | P_R_Deltoid | Not really. |
| 00:52.43 | Phaos | as in, sc2 will be around long after Kakera leaves |
| 00:52.46 | Kakera | It was in reply to Asa who suggested I quit WoW for SC2, but I explained why I wouldn't |
| 00:52.48 | Bambi | That hasn't been proven, Phaos. :D |
| 00:52.52 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 00:52.54 | Phaos | pffft |
| 00:52.55 | SD|GhosT | i finally have a working hero, woo |
| 00:52.56 | P_R_Deltoid | it's a simple order of semantics |
| 00:52.58 | athaudia | i usually don't like RTSs, the exceptions were wc2, sc and red alert2... ^^ |
| 00:53.00 | SD|GhosT | now to figure out items :-( |
| 00:53.06 | P_R_Deltoid | sounds is interpretation of vibration in the air |
| 00:53.06 | Kakera | That's the entire point of this conversation and then it rolled into a giant snowball down the hill |
| 00:53.11 | P_R_Deltoid | a tree will make vibration |
| 00:53.13 | P_R_Deltoid | but with no one around |
| 00:53.16 | P_R_Deltoid | there is no "sound" |
| 00:53.25 | tehwalrus | how do i copy an actor and add it to a unit? |
| 00:53.25 | P_R_Deltoid | there are just waves that can be interpreted as sound |
| 00:53.26 | Phaos | now /that/ is semantics |
| 00:53.36 | P_R_Deltoid | well it's the only real way to answer that silly question |
| 00:53.43 | Bambi | :O I stand by my claim that faries negate the vibrations in their entirity. |
| 00:53.47 | P_R_Deltoid | and it's a legitimate answer |
| 00:53.50 | Bambi | Infact, trees never fall, they lay down. |
| 00:53.59 | Kakera | I liked Red Alert and its sequel (But not the third, it was horrible), though I kinda wished Westwood still had the franchise. |
| 00:54.01 | Phaos | it's metaphorical. it's logical answer isn't the point |
| 00:54.11 | SD|GhosT | kinda wish westwood wasnt bought by ea |
| 00:54.12 | Bambi | We are making it the point. |
| 00:54.16 | P_R_Deltoid | There are better questions for that kind of thing |
| 00:54.23 | P_R_Deltoid | the point is moot because there is now an answer |
| 00:54.30 | P_R_Deltoid | a definitive answer that makes complete sense |
| 00:54.34 | P_R_Deltoid | chicken and the egg, same deal. |
| 00:54.36 | P_R_Deltoid | egg |
| 00:54.44 | Kakera | Actually |
| 00:54.46 | P_R_Deltoid | there have to be plenty others |
| 00:54.49 | Phaos | alright well forget I made homage to a old addage. and just consider my overall point "sc2 will be around long after kakera leaves" |
| 00:54.56 | P_R_Deltoid | aw |
| 00:54.57 | P_R_Deltoid | okay |
| 00:54.58 | ekcolnvkol | hey phaos |
| 00:54.59 | ekcolnvkol | it feels like |
| 00:55.00 | P_R_Deltoid | well then I agree with you |
| 00:55.07 | P_R_Deltoid | counter point: kakera is dumb |
| 00:55.11 | ekcolnvkol | "convert circle to region" reads your value as diameter instead of radius |
| 00:55.21 | Kakera | >:| Stop bringing my name in all this. |
| 00:55.24 | ekcolnvkol | i just tested and it's wierd |
| 00:55.24 | P_R_Deltoid | :> |
| 00:55.31 | P_R_Deltoid | ekcolnvkol, that isn't what I found |
| 00:55.35 | Phaos | oh heya Ek |
| 00:55.42 | Kakera | The definition of dumb isn't made by disliking something. |
| 00:55.51 | P_R_Deltoid | just being dumb |
| 00:55.58 | Kakera | Not even. |
| 00:56.07 | P_R_Deltoid | pretty sure being dumb is being dumb |
| 00:56.19 | Kakera | I'm not being dumb. |
| 00:56.47 | ekcolnvkol | i'm fairly confident that is reads as diameter |
| 00:56.51 | ekcolnvkol | not radius |
| 00:57.10 | ekcolnvkol | i'm using a weapon range to gage how far an effect should reach |
| 00:57.19 | ekcolnvkol | offset of 2 with radius of 2 doesn't quite reach |
| 00:57.41 | Sixen | evekovkeovkoel, I noticed the Twin Archons have no names. |
| 00:57.42 | Phaos | ungh I just have no motivation to do terrain editing on my zombie map >: | but I need something to play around with my mechanics in. arrrg motivation fail |
| 00:57.42 | Sixen | :) |
| 00:58.21 | ekcolnvkol | they don't |
| 00:58.21 | ekcolnvkol | yet |
| 00:58.28 | ekcolnvkol | lawd |
| 00:58.29 | tehwalrus | has anyone found out how to make buildings drop mineral resources when they get destroyed? |
| 00:58.38 | ekcolnvkol | wait for me to flesh out the twin |
| 00:58.39 | `MindWorX | It's Sexen! :D |
| 00:58.40 | Sixen | Sycke and Ssen |
| 00:58.41 | ekcolnvkol | then i'll think about it |
| 00:58.44 | Sixen | ITS MIND WARCKZ |
| 00:59.08 | ekcolnvkol | i might change the archons to a stone zealot |
| 00:59.10 | ekcolnvkol | just maybe |
| 00:59.34 | `MindWorX | xD |
| 00:59.41 | Phaos | tehwalrus. blizzard do it by triggers. the buildings useually have hidden supplies placed on them that are hidden at map initialisation. when the building is destroyed they are revealed |
| 00:59.48 | P_R_Deltoid | tehwalrus, plant them under the building using no-collide? |
| 00:59.49 | P_R_Deltoid | :| |
| 00:59.51 | Sixen | Stone Zealot would make more sense. |
| 01:00.19 | Phaos | if you wanna do it by data editor. the way I'm immediately thinking of is that you make the building have that as "loot" so that when you destroy it it drops |
| 01:00.26 | tehwalrus | the refinery does it somehow using actors, but I'm not sure what I'm looking at, lol |
| 01:00.42 | Phaos | refinery doesn't drop vespene O.o |
| 01:00.50 | tehwalrus | yeah, it drops a geyser |
| 01:00.56 | Dogmai | ekcolnvkol, do we have access to tables in sc2? |
| 01:00.58 | Phaos | you mean little mineral/vespene drops like in the campaign right ? |
| 01:01.05 | Phaos | oh no no it doesn't drop the geyser! |
| 01:01.12 | Phaos | the geyser is already there |
| 01:01.29 | Phaos | the geyser is just hidden when the refinery is built ontop |
| 01:01.42 | ekcolnvkol | tables? |
| 01:01.44 | ekcolnvkol | what tables |
| 01:01.53 | tehwalrus | nah, it drops it. refinery - actors - carry harvestable vespene geyser |
| 01:02.08 | Phaos | no it really doesn't tehwalrus I have done built on units before |
| 01:02.09 | tehwalrus | and if you place a refinery at a random spot on your map then kill it, it has a geyser underneath |
| 01:02.11 | `MindWorX | "I am making a 3rd person hero fighting map with WAS movement." Heh, no way to turn right xD |
| 01:02.16 | Phaos | yes |
| 01:02.32 | m50 | GAH! I still can't get this stupid projectile to fire from the weapon attachement point! It still is shooting from the origin, and i have changed it as far as i can figure... |
| 01:02.38 | Phaos | thats because if you place a"built on" unit like a refinery, it creates both the refinery AND it's parent. in this case the geyser |
| 01:03.12 | tehwalrus | but when i place a custom hive built on a rich mineral field, it doesn't have one inside it |
| 01:03.14 | AsaPhelps | you could just turn left until you're facing right |
| 01:03.19 | Phaos | take harder look at the geyser it's self as an actor, it has hide flags |
| 01:03.31 | Dogmai | database tables |
| 01:04.06 | Phaos | when I place an assimilator on the map and then delete it, there is no geyser inside |
| 01:04.10 | Phaos | thats normal |
| 01:04.19 | Phaos | go into your game and destroy your custome hive |
| 01:04.30 | tehwalrus | no, i mean when i go into the game and kill it theres no resource |
| 01:04.45 | Phaos | then that is very odd behavior |
| 01:04.50 | Phaos | go to your hive |
| 01:04.59 | Phaos | and check that it has "built on" set to mineral field |
| 01:05.15 | Phaos | your hive unit that is |
| 01:05.30 | wOlfLinG | How do you spell inconviniance? |
| 01:05.30 | *** part/#sc2mapster m50 (~m50@adsl-99-49-34-167.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:06.13 | sugoi | spells are basically abilities, go to the "Data" windows (f7) |
| 01:06.13 | tehwalrus | it is |
| 01:06.32 | tehwalrus | i can build on the mineral field in the game |
| 01:06.47 | Phaos | right. and can you build anywhere BUT the mineral field ? |
| 01:06.56 | tehwalrus | nope |
| 01:07.08 | Phaos | ok thats good |
| 01:07.32 | Phaos | lemme have a look |
| 01:07.36 | Phaos | brb |
| 01:07.47 | Dogmai | inconvenience |
| 01:09.52 | Fromethius | how do you put a ! behind a term in the actor events dialog? |
| 01:10.08 | Fromethius | a not sign |
| 01:11.40 | Fromethius | anyone know? |
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| 01:12.07 | Fromethius | i just realized the difference between two of my actor actions is one is !ValidateUnit InfestorBurrow and one is Validate Unit InfestorBurrow |
| 01:12.11 | Bambi | D: |
| 01:12.11 | Phaos | tehwalrus |
| 01:12.12 | Fromethius | but i cannot see how to add a Not |
| 01:12.16 | Bambi | how can i define a new resource type? |
| 01:12.19 | tehwalrus | yes |
| 01:12.23 | Phaos | have you added the hide/unhide behavior to the minerals ? |
| 01:12.30 | Phaos | take a look at the vespene geyser actor |
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| 01:12.39 | Phaos | particularly at the "flags" |
| 01:13.01 | Phaos | sorry. the "singals" |
| 01:14.00 | tehwalrus | the actor in the refinery or on the geyser unit? |
| 01:14.15 | Phaos | the vespene geyser it's self. no refineries. |
| 01:14.23 | Phaos | the raw resource building |
| 01:14.56 | Phaos | i mean a refinery isn't exactly called a "refinery" |
| 01:15.01 | Phaos | durp |
| 01:15.03 | Bambi | Waitasecond |
| 01:15.10 | Bambi | The resources are behaviors? |
| 01:15.14 | Bambi | whaaaaaaat... |
| 01:15.17 | Phaos | I mean a "vespene geyser" insn't exactly called a "refinery" >.> |
| 01:15.47 | Phaos | the resource behaviours are behaviours .. yes |
| 01:15.55 | Phaos | the resources them selves arn't |
| 01:16.22 | Bambi | By resources i don't mean the in-game minables, i mean the... well... class of... usable thing... editor... stuff... thing... |
| 01:16.34 | Phaos | eh |
| 01:16.38 | Phaos | no sense you am make |
| 01:16.39 | Bambi | OH |
| 01:16.41 | Bambi | I KNOW WHY |
| 01:16.45 | Bambi | I had my filter set to behaviors |
| 01:16.46 | Bambi | durp |
| 01:16.51 | tehwalrus | so my resource is staying invisible, but its there? |
| 01:16.51 | Phaos | xD |
| 01:16.57 | Phaos | yes |
| 01:17.04 | Fromethius | how do you get an Not sign (exclamation) to appear before a Term in the Actor Events dialog window? there is probably a hotkey for it but i cannot find it |
| 01:17.11 | Phaos | because you have no singal.*uncovered |
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| 01:17.47 | tehwalrus | okay. how do i send that signal when the hive dies? |
| 01:18.03 | Phaos | the same way a vespene geyser and a refinery interact |
| 01:18.08 | Phaos | take a look at both their actors |
| 01:18.22 | Kakera | Hm |
| 01:18.27 | Kakera | The last blue post was from almost 2 days ago |
| 01:18.44 | Kakera | I see the custom map forums filled with complain threads |
| 01:18.56 | Kakera | Is it just me or Blizzard just doesn't care anymore? |
| 01:19.03 | athaudia | lets hope that means they work on a surprise fix |
| 01:19.05 | Phaos | -_- |
| 01:19.18 | Kakera | I know they can't always answer |
| 01:19.27 | Phaos | 2 days have gone past and blizzard havn't said anything ?! OMG the world is ending D: |
| 01:19.43 | Kakera | Well the game is about a week old and the other days have had their blue posts |
| 01:19.52 | Phaos | to be honest |
| 01:19.58 | wOlfLinG | Not said anything about what? |
| 01:20.03 | Phaos | fixing the game bugs are probably more urgent than the editor |
| 01:20.27 | Kakera | And by bug you mean popularity system? |
| 01:20.36 | Lisk | is there any way to force the completion of a morph? |
| 01:20.36 | wOlfLinG | That is urgent |
| 01:20.42 | Phaos | no i mean all the graphics and sound glitches peopel are getting |
| 01:20.53 | Lisk | or if not, detect whether a unit is morphing or not? |
| 01:20.55 | Kakera | What kinda glitches? |
| 01:20.57 | Bambi | This doesn't make sense to me. |
| 01:20.57 | Phaos | the updater problems |
| 01:21.02 | Phaos | e.t.c |
| 01:21.07 | Bambi | Why is it that resources has to be so confuzzling? |
| 01:21.20 | Bambi | The game-base defines what resources are visable, right? |
| 01:21.21 | wOlfLinG | Resources are easy Bambi xD |
| 01:21.23 | athaudia | i had a small glitch for some smoke textures looking wonky ^^ |
| 01:21.29 | Bambi | Shush w0lf D: |
| 01:21.30 | Phaos | oh I dunno. just the fact that some people get nothing but a black screen. |
| 01:21.36 | Phaos | oh and some people get no sound what so ever |
| 01:21.41 | wOlfLinG | Its an O you noob, not an 0 >:( |
| 01:21.44 | Kakera | Well, apparently Blizzard still has the time to delete random good maps while they work on a fix |
| 01:21.47 | Bambi | It looks like there is a category of stuff that i can't find. |
| 01:22.51 | Phaos | blizzard isn't a single person you know. it's many departments. they probably have a team of moderators who delete inappropriate maps. doesn't mean the moderators have the coding knowledge to fix what you perseve as urgent |
| 01:23.30 | AsaPhelps | anyone know why a missile won't show up under units to be placed on the map? trying to place a weapon - longbolt missile but it doesn't appear to be placed |
| 01:24.10 | Phaos | be patient the game is offically a week old. there will be MANY patches in the future |
| 01:24.18 | Phaos | as they un-break and re-break things |
| 01:24.27 | Phaos | it's how software works |
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| 01:24.46 | volte | mon deu! |
| 01:25.27 | Bambi | is there a max of four resources? D: |
| 01:25.30 | volte | tres beaucoup de personnes |
| 01:25.42 | Bambi | whar can I find the entry for 'custom resouce' |
| 01:25.54 | Phaos | hehe |
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| 01:26.01 | Bambi | >O< or do i just need to add a new behavior with a resource behavior base? |
| 01:26.05 | Phaos | go into the text editor bambi |
| 01:26.12 | Kakera | I understand deleting the maps, but if there's like... not even any warning, it's frustrating; Like this guy who lost his map for like one swear word |
| 01:26.19 | Phaos | look for "custom resource" |
| 01:26.28 | Phaos | and replace them all with the name of your resource |
| 01:26.47 | Phaos | well he obviously didn't read the map posting rules did he ? |
| 01:26.55 | volte | I feel like I saw a place where you could define ustom resources... :/ |
| 01:27.19 | Phaos | they arn't going to edit his map for him. |
| 01:27.22 | Bambi | It looks like there is a max of four resource types. :[ |
| 01:27.25 | Phaos | he can put his map back up |
| 01:27.42 | Phaos | just without the swear word |
| 01:27.54 | volte | oh yea... in behaviors... |
| 01:27.58 | Kakera | Everyone who had played his map and himself pretty much said there wasn't anything more inappropriate than what Blizzard had sold us as a single player package, as in, in the campaign |
| 01:28.02 | volte | looks like you can add a resource object |
| 01:28.09 | Kakera | And he can't reupload his map, he lost upload rights for that map |
| 01:28.23 | AsaPhelps | hmm, I can't figure out why I can't place projectile units on the map |
| 01:28.32 | Kakera | What they should have done is lock the map, tell him what was wrong, let him edit it, and then unlock after the fix |
| 01:28.33 | volte | Bambi: but... I have no idea how it affects gameplay |
| 01:28.47 | Kakera | That is how things should be handled with an enthusiast community, not "loldeletedforever" |
| 01:28.54 | volte | Kakera: or have the upload overwrite the old map, thus unlocking it :) |
| 01:29.02 | volte | although then he could just keep uloading the same map :/ :P |
| 01:29.03 | Phaos | there is probably something worse than just a sear word then |
| 01:29.03 | Bambi | oooh well |
| 01:29.16 | tehwalrus | Okay, I am not liking actors. Is there a way for me to just hide resource units under the hives in the terrain editor? |
| 01:29.27 | Kakera | Like that? Violence? |
| 01:29.29 | Phaos | nope |
| 01:29.52 | Phaos | data editor is the way it is unfortunate;y |
| 01:29.59 | Phaos | well fortunately really |
| 01:30.14 | Phaos | you will get used to it once you accept how damn powerful it is |
| 01:30.16 | depthsofchaos | Phaosss, you gona do those textures ?:o |
| 01:30.28 | Phaos | I'm gonna give you the models deapths |
| 01:30.48 | depthsofchaos | :o well k |
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| 01:30.54 | Phaos | S: |
| 01:30.56 | Phaos | soz |
| 01:31.19 | Phaos | shouldn't be too bad from where I have left it. |
| 01:31.38 | volte | Man... this editor is sooooo intense |
| 01:31.42 | depthsofchaos | well i dont know how to do it:o |
| 01:31.45 | Phaos | you need to make the UVs your self . but then it should just be a cut and past job from the original texture |
| 01:31.52 | volte | kinda buggy, but once you get the hang of it, it's ok |
| 01:31.57 | depthsofchaos | did you do 1 bridge? |
| 01:32.02 | depthsofchaos | thats not 1x1 |
| 01:32.04 | volte | can't wait until they polish it up a bit (hopeful thinking?) |
| 01:32.14 | wOlfLinG | What percentage of gamers would be fooled by a fake error? |
| 01:32.34 | Phaos | oh uh no , unfortuntely. after that bunch of work I did and finished the 1x1 a whole buncha stuff came up |
| 01:32.44 | volte | depends, wOlfLinG, what would the error "do"? |
| 01:33.00 | wOlfLinG | Well, says the map needs to be closed :) |
| 01:33.02 | volte | if it's just text, probably would just ignore it |
| 01:33.04 | Phaos | I mean I could still do them if you want. but I just can't promise you when I will have them done by |
| 01:33.05 | depthsofchaos | ok np well gona try to di it somehow |
| 01:33.20 | wOlfLinG | Well, it makes you leave the game :D |
| 01:33.31 | volte | oh... then it might as well be legit :P |
| 01:33.33 | Phaos | yeah it would be a good lesson for you in UVs and stuff :D since they are nice an easy models to work with |
| 01:33.35 | Kakera | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248295635 Just stumbled on this, mayhap ya'll already saw it, it's a thread on how Blizzard defines their 'unnacceptable words' in a custom map. |
| 01:33.41 | volte | is there anything a gamer could do about it? |
| 01:33.53 | depthsofchaos | but you know the problem with the ratios |
| 01:33.57 | depthsofchaos | of different bridges |
| 01:34.14 | depthsofchaos | well gona try 1 big texture |
| 01:34.15 | Phaos | hang on I figured out how to fix that and I will query it to you |
| 01:34.56 | volte | omg this is ridiculous |
| 01:35.04 | wOlfLinG | Also, the errors are: Zeratul spontaneously combusting, A bad building placement and Player 3 is using cheats. When theres no player 3 ^^ |
| 01:35.10 | volte | re: bad-words |
| 01:35.12 | sugoi | ok guys |
| 01:35.14 | sugoi | update on stimpack |
| 01:35.16 | sugoi | ready? |
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| 01:35.33 | AsaPhelps | is your marine now addicted? |
| 01:35.41 | sugoi | basically...the fields available are not sufficient to say the stimpack's take 10 life |
| 01:35.51 | wOlfLinG | Someone should make an addictive stim O_o |
| 01:36.00 | sugoi | because of the type of effect it is |
| 01:36.11 | wOlfLinG | sugoi, it's in the cost field |
| 01:36.15 | AsaPhelps | you have the cost as 10 life? |
| 01:36.16 | sugoi | it's a buff...so it can 'modify' for the duration of the effect |
| 01:36.21 | wOlfLinG | in the ability |
| 01:36.30 | AsaPhelps | You can't make a Godzilla map because it has the word God. |
| 01:36.30 | AsaPhelps | You also can't have abilities that have the word 'suicide' INCLUDING an ability such as... Baneling Suicide Copy. |
| 01:36.34 | AsaPhelps | Thats so dumb |
| 01:36.51 | sugoi | wOlfLinG: what we're talking about is making the stimpack effect -10 life, not cost 10 life |
| 01:36.56 | slightlyrandom | sugoi: You need to make a seperate effect |
| 01:37.02 | slightlyrandom | one that causes 10 damage |
| 01:37.04 | AsaPhelps | effect damage, 10 |
| 01:37.10 | sugoi | subtle diff: you can kill yourself from the effect, whereas default is you can't "afford" a stimpack at <= 10 life |
| 01:37.16 | sugoi | slightlyrandom: correct :) |
| 01:37.26 | athaudia | oh, that's the whole difference? |
| 01:37.27 | slightlyrandom | and then call both it, and the stim effect using a Set effect |
| 01:37.27 | sugoi | but the reason the effect 'stimpack' can't do it is because it's a buff |
| 01:37.30 | AsaPhelps | i was reading the post thats not fair |
| 01:37.38 | volte | AsaPhelps: I agree |
| 01:37.48 | wOlfLinG | ah, k |
| 01:37.49 | volte | totally retarded |
| 01:37.51 | wOlfLinG | i get it |
| 01:38.00 | Fromethius | how do you make !'s in the actor events dialog windowwwwww |
| 01:38.17 | slightlyrandom | Why do you want !'s ? |
| 01:38.19 | wOlfLinG | Isn't there a flag that means you can use it if you don't have enough to use it? |
| 01:38.26 | volte | he's probably making an RPG :P |
| 01:38.29 | Fromethius | slightlyrandom |
| 01:38.33 | AsaPhelps | did you try right click, add term, not |
| 01:38.33 | sugoi | wOlfLinG: yes - validators |
| 01:38.33 | slightlyrandom | oh |
| 01:38.40 | sugoi | but the stimpack works on cost, not validators |
| 01:38.47 | slightlyrandom | Quest signs ? |
| 01:38.48 | Fromethius | on my infestor unit there is a term that says ValidateUnit burrowed |
| 01:38.52 | slightlyrandom | ah |
| 01:38.53 | Fromethius | but it has a ! before it that means Not |
| 01:38.58 | Fromethius | i want !ValidateUnit |
| 01:39.05 | Fromethius | but i don't know how to make the exclamation before it |
| 01:39.15 | slightlyrandom | Well, double click the term and see which item it has picked on the dropdown, then |
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| 01:39.23 | slightlyrandom | It's probably called something else |
| 01:39.25 | sugoi | tehwalrus: did you see my update? ^^ |
| 01:39.27 | Fromethius | i've been trying to figure this out |
| 01:39.31 | Fromethius | for 30 minutes |
| 01:39.34 | Fromethius | i have tried double clicking it |
| 01:39.36 | AsaPhelps | where's an example of this ! from? |
| 01:39.45 | Fromethius | the item on the dropdown is ValidateUnit |
| 01:39.52 | Fromethius | it's used on terms in the actor events dialog window |
| 01:39.52 | volte | has anyone considered or been successful in creating a "miss" ability/buff? |
| 01:40.02 | sugoi | volte: do you mean debuff? |
| 01:40.03 | Fromethius | you can find it in most actors |
| 01:40.07 | wOlfLinG | sugoi: Make it a set and add a 10 damage damage effect |
| 01:40.09 | tehwalrus | about what sugoi? i was afw |
| 01:40.12 | volte | sugoi: :/ maybe? |
| 01:40.16 | AsaPhelps | give an example of one |
| 01:40.28 | Fromethius | infestor |
| 01:40.33 | sugoi | wOlfLinG: are you saying create a new effect and link it? |
| 01:40.35 | AsaPhelps | infestor actor? |
| 01:40.37 | Fromethius | yes |
| 01:40.55 | AsaPhelps | its validators? |
| 01:40.59 | slightlyrandom | Create two new effects sugoi |
| 01:41.01 | Fromethius | its actors |
| 01:41.06 | Fromethius | open up the Infestor actor |
| 01:41.08 | AsaPhelps | done |
| 01:41.11 | Fromethius | scroll down until you find validateunit |
| 01:41.15 | Fromethius | some has !'s before them |
| 01:41.16 | slightlyrandom | One a damage effect applied to the marine, one a set that calls both the damage and the stim |
| 01:41.18 | Fromethius | i need to make those. |
| 01:41.24 | sugoi | slightlyrandom: yes yes, we're all on the same page, i'm just saying you can't make the current stimpack effect do it because it is the wrong type of effect |
| 01:41.31 | slightlyrandom | Indeed |
| 01:41.41 | slightlyrandom | This is how effects are done |
| 01:41.43 | sugoi | tehwalrus: i figured out how to give the -10 life (or rather, why it can't be done on stimpack) |
| 01:41.54 | slightlyrandom | They do one thing, if you want them to do more, you make more effects and call em at the same time |
| 01:42.17 | wOlfLinG | sugoi, i'm meaning create a 'set' effect, add the stim effect and a 10 damage damage effect and give that set to the stimpack |
| 01:42.19 | slightlyrandom | Makes editing far easier, too, incidentally. Bug fixing, at least |
| 01:42.28 | wOlfLinG | and make the stim not require a cost |
| 01:42.35 | volte | sugoi: is there an important difference between buff and debuff (as far as the editor is concerned?) |
| 01:42.40 | slightlyrandom | I think we've stomped around in that quite enough |
| 01:42.45 | sugoi | wOlfLinG: understood |
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| 01:42.53 | wOlfLinG | then it will damage itself via the damage effect and then use stim :) |
| 01:43.06 | sugoi | volte: i don't think there is a diff in the editor, just lingo |
| 01:43.07 | wOlfLinG | volte: there isn't debuffs in SC2 |
| 01:43.11 | sugoi | lingo here/forums/etc |
| 01:43.22 | volte | ok, so irrelevant :P |
| 01:43.29 | sugoi | volte: you'd just make a buff with negative effects |
| 01:43.32 | volte | anyway, miss ability? |
| 01:43.33 | wOlfLinG | It's just a buff with a negative alignment |
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| 01:43.53 | sugoi | volte: i'm just saying it's not called a "miss ability" |
| 01:43.54 | volte | I cant find any settings in the data manager |
| 01:43.55 | sugoi | hehe :) |
| 01:43.59 | Cyrileo | Hey. |
| 01:44.00 | volte | sugoi: ah :) |
| 01:44.20 | sugoi | volte: think of it as an ability, or an effect (buff) |
| 01:44.25 | sugoi | then, set the values negative |
| 01:44.28 | sugoi | thus: debuff! |
| 01:44.31 | AsaPhelps | does the ! do anything? |
| 01:44.35 | slightlyrandom | Not |
| 01:44.35 | volte | right |
| 01:44.37 | slightlyrandom | == vs != |
| 01:44.38 | sugoi | AsaPhelps: means not |
| 01:44.42 | Fromethius | means not |
| 01:44.43 | Fromethius | yes |
| 01:44.45 | Fromethius | it is very important |
| 01:44.51 | AsaPhelps | well then couldn't you do validate unit, is infestor |
| 01:44.53 | Fromethius | i have been trying to figure this bug out for hours |
| 01:44.57 | slightlyrandom | Hehe |
| 01:44.58 | Fromethius | and i finally found out |
| 01:44.58 | AsaPhelps | instead of not not an infestor |
| 01:45.06 | Fromethius | the only difference was a ! |
| 01:45.15 | slightlyrandom | Well, make a new validator |
| 01:45.18 | Fromethius | no |
| 01:45.20 | slightlyrandom | the reverse one |
| 01:45.21 | volte | and triggers won't work either, cuz the only events that are applicable to latch onto (Unit attacks, Unit is attacked) fire *after* the damage has been dealt |
| 01:45.22 | Fromethius | that is not the problem |
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| 01:45.38 | slightlyrandom | Bang your head against that particular wall a bit more, then |
| 01:45.45 | Fromethius | sigh. |
| 01:45.49 | Fromethius | maybe raw view will fix it |
| 01:46.11 | sugoi | volte: don't use triggers with that, improve the attack/ability to invoke an effect (buff) which has negative results on the target (debuff) |
| 01:46.13 | slightlyrandom | That's quite a good idea, since raw means you can just copy/paste |
| 01:46.29 | volte | sugoi: right, but how do I apply a "chance" ? |
| 01:46.50 | sugoi | volte: good question (new here myself) - i believe i saw chance in the effect values |
| 01:47.01 | sugoi | there are many types of effects |
| 01:47.06 | sugoi | you might have to link a couple of them |
| 01:47.13 | sugoi | one with chance, the next with the debuff |
| 01:47.48 | volte | hrrrumph |
| 01:47.54 | sugoi | haha :) |
| 01:47.59 | sugoi | triggers aren't enough |
| 01:47.59 | volte | I feel like I get lost in this editor! |
| 01:48.03 | sugoi | branch out ! :) |
| 01:48.16 | volte | I've got my fingers quite deep in all parts of the editor |
| 01:48.21 | volte | but it's just so much! |
| 01:48.21 | sugoi | true, it's kinda...in your face |
| 01:48.22 | slightlyrandom | I feel like a scrub when I see some of the stuff people do with the editor |
| 01:48.37 | Fromethius | nope, raw view doesn't work |
| 01:48.42 | slightlyrandom | But then again, their maps always turn out to be fairly poor gameplay and replayability wise :P |
| 01:48.50 | sugoi | slightlyrandom: :) |
| 01:49.07 | slightlyrandom | Looks great, though |
| 01:49.13 | Fromethius | asaphelps you figure it out? |
| 01:49.20 | volte | do we know of *anything* that has some sort of chance associated with it? I could look there to start... |
| 01:49.31 | slightlyrandom | SC2 isn't big on chance |
| 01:50.06 | slightlyrandom | Only sort of chance I can think of is which model your Dark Templars spawn with |
| 01:50.42 | tehwalrus | anyone want to test my map? i've got it into alpha shape |
| 01:50.56 | slightlyrandom | wut is it? |
| 01:51.47 | tehwalrus | We Require More Minerals - you send waves of serg against your enemies, and when you kill their units you get the resources they cost - goal is to amass 1000 |
| 01:51.55 | `MindWorX | serg? |
| 01:51.57 | AsaPhelps | no idea from |
| 01:52.00 | AsaPhelps | quite perplexing |
| 01:52.04 | volte | slightlyrandom: seems that way, but you'd think that the basic ability would be present in the editor/engine |
| 01:52.40 | slightlyrandom | Well, it probably is |
| 01:52.51 | slightlyrandom | There's chance arrays for a couple of other things |
| 01:52.56 | volte | continues searching |
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| 01:52.59 | slightlyrandom | Which sounds to play, and so on |
| 01:53.02 | AsaPhelps | i'd think maybe you could add message not |
| 01:53.08 | AsaPhelps | but i can't seem to ever be able to add a message |
| 01:53.29 | slightlyrandom | Fidget animations |
| 01:54.18 | slightlyrandom | Also, playing the Terran campaign has made me realize just how much I hate the Terran army |
| 01:54.29 | AsaPhelps | most times I had like 3000 minerals |
| 01:54.31 | AsaPhelps | so i was like |
| 01:54.33 | slightlyrandom | Apart from Medic/Marine, there's just too much micro going on |
| 01:54.36 | AsaPhelps | marines marines marines marines marines marines marines |
| 01:54.41 | AsaPhelps | flame turret flame turret flame turret flame turret flame turret flame turret |
| 01:55.01 | slightlyrandom | Well, I haven't gotten far enough to have that much money |
| 01:55.07 | slightlyrandom | Got a bit swamped on the Dig |
| 01:55.16 | slightlyrandom | too much shit happening |
| 01:55.17 | AsaPhelps | three words |
| 01:55.23 | AsaPhelps | auto-gather vespene refinery |
| 01:55.33 | slightlyrandom | I think I picked the other one |
| 01:55.36 | slightlyrandom | create 2 scvs |
| 01:55.38 | AsaPhelps | then you sir fail |
| 01:55.38 | depthsofchaos | double scv was better :o |
| 01:55.51 | slightlyrandom | Well, I want to have 20 scvs on minerals asap |
| 01:55.56 | slightlyrandom | fuck the gas |
| 01:56.15 | slightlyrandom | I'll make do with marines and bunkers until then :P |
| 01:56.33 | depthsofchaos | the best one was tho the transport pod delivery of bunker |
| 01:56.41 | slightlyrandom | We'll see how it turns out, though, haven't actually played with it |
| 01:56.44 | depthsofchaos | not bunker, barrack-.- |
| 01:56.52 | AsaPhelps | i chose the other one for that |
| 01:57.02 | slightlyrandom | You still have to build the unit, right? |
| 01:57.06 | slightlyrandom | Build time ? |
| 01:57.08 | depthsofchaos | ye |
| 01:57.17 | slightlyrandom | Bloody hard to control, then |
| 01:57.23 | AsaPhelps | i went, flame turret, auto-gather vespene |
| 01:57.26 | ekcolnvkol | i want a copy of tank wars |
| 01:57.28 | AsaPhelps | i forget what else |
| 01:57.31 | ekcolnvkol | i really want to know why his game was removed |
| 01:57.42 | depthsofchaos | removed? |
| 01:57.44 | depthsofchaos | by who |
| 01:57.57 | AsaPhelps | maybe because "wars" is probably filtered by blizzard |
| 01:58.01 | slightlyrandom | Not just republished and dropped off of the popularity list ? |
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| 01:58.23 | slightlyrandom | Seriously, this padding the world nonsense has to fucking stop |
| 01:58.26 | AsaPhelps | did anyone remember the map missile wars? |
| 01:58.30 | AsaPhelps | from the beta |
| 01:58.50 | depthsofchaos | how to fix language filter - > use encryption xD |
| 01:58.58 | AsaPhelps | or like |
| 01:59.08 | AsaPhelps | Blizzard su[b][/b]cks |
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| 02:01.40 | slightlyrandom | Rocket Arena needs to be bumped on EU |
| 02:01.54 | slightlyrandom | That game being so low is a disgrace |
| 02:03.30 | Cyrileo | I haven't had a chance to play that yet, looks fun though |
| 02:03.33 | wOlfLinG | So, my contest map has been finished :) |
| 02:03.40 | wOlfLinG | Now to get it to slot 1 xD |
| 02:04.43 | volte | btw, how come the link to the wiki when SC2 editor opens up is non-existant? :P |
| 02:05.02 | depthsofchaos | im just hoping one day people will get bored of TD |
| 02:05.05 | depthsofchaos | is that possible? |
| 02:05.20 | sugoi | td? |
| 02:05.23 | wOlfLinG | DOTA |
| 02:05.35 | depthsofchaos | tower defense |
| 02:05.39 | sugoi | ah |
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| 02:05.41 | sugoi | heh |
| 02:06.53 | Kakera | This is frustrating. How can I give an ability to my item so it can properly target an AoE region with a range thing? |
| 02:06.57 | wOlfLinG | When DOTA for SC2 comes out, ppl will be 'Zomgz! DOTA!11!!!1! |
| 02:07.12 | volte | DIS EDITOR IZ CHAFING MAH EYEBROWS |
| 02:07.25 | volte | dispises dota :( |
| 02:07.26 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 02:07.44 | tehwalrus | im bored of TD and DOTA |
| 02:07.49 | volte | mostly cuz that's all anybody plays on WC3 |
| 02:07.54 | Kakera | I got everything set up except the link between the ability and the item |
| 02:07.59 | Kakera | But I can't find anything that links them |
| 02:08.04 | RodOfNOD | there are already a couple dotas out |
| 02:08.19 | AsaPhelps | whats that debate map called, jsut debate? |
| 02:08.35 | Fromethius | how do you get an ability to display its energy cost |
| 02:08.45 | RodOfNOD | i like tds :P |
| 02:08.59 | RodOfNOD | there is a display thing |
| 02:09.02 | RodOfNOD | let me look |
| 02:09.46 | volte | Kakera: it should be like "Carry Behavior" |
| 02:09.51 | volte | or "Equip Behavior" |
| 02:10.05 | volte | (both do different things) but I think that should work... |
| 02:10.18 | Kakera | Yeah, checked that |
| 02:10.21 | volte | hmmm |
| 02:10.24 | Kakera | Problem is: behaviors, not abilities |
| 02:10.32 | RodOfNOD | Fromethius: i think its ON the command card itself |
| 02:10.39 | volte | shouldn't the ability have a behavior? |
| 02:10.40 | RodOfNOD | for the unit |
| 02:10.44 | Fromethius | rodofnod |
| 02:10.53 | Fromethius | i have 3 abilities |
| 02:11.01 | Fromethius | all have the same effect |
| 02:11.01 | Kakera | Nope, this one has no behaviors |
| 02:11.08 | Fromethius | only the level 1 version has the mana display |
| 02:11.18 | Kakera | What I want to ultimately link is an Actor |
| 02:11.24 | Kakera | But the Actor type doesn't match items |
| 02:11.27 | Kakera | It matches abilities |
| 02:11.49 | Fromethius | i notice that if the ability has a requirement it does not display the mana cost.. |
| 02:11.51 | Kakera | Which is entirely stupid, since it makes it impossible to make us have the range thing for items instead of abilities you can use alone |
| 02:11.53 | RodOfNOD | k well regardless i believe it is on the CC |
| 02:12.21 | Kakera | Basically if I want AoE items, I need to put them on the command card and have them greyed out until the character has some equipped |
| 02:12.53 | Fromethius | where on the cc?.. |
| 02:12.59 | Kakera | But I don't wanna put items on the command card, I wanna put abilities. :| |
| 02:13.04 | volte | anybody know what Buff Categories mean? (Permanent, Restorable, Temporary) |
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| 02:13.16 | Kakera | Your character is affected by them |
| 02:13.23 | volte | Kakera: I think he might be talking to AsaPhelps |
| 02:13.31 | Kakera | Permanent is permanent, temporary goes away after some time, and Restorable ... dunno |
| 02:13.32 | RodOfNOD | actually i see display flags on the behavior but i THINk those are on the unit itself not on the console |
| 02:13.35 | Kakera | I know, I'm not talking to him |
| 02:13.43 | Chainclaw | Does anyone know how to set pre-game settings in the editor? Teams and # of player slots? |
| 02:13.52 | AsaPhelps | who's talking to me |
| 02:13.59 | volte | AsaPhelps: I meant Fromethius sorry |
| 02:14.06 | Kakera | Basically my problem also comes over to the command card because if I want to have aoe items I need to put them on the command card but I don't want cause that's for abilities and not items |
| 02:14.14 | volte | Chainclaw: Map -> Player Properties |
| 02:14.19 | Chainclaw | Thanks |
| 02:14.19 | RodOfNOD | Chainclaw: Map menu / player properties |
| 02:14.20 | RodOfNOD | grr |
| 02:14.23 | volte | and then I think you set alliances in the triggers |
| 02:14.24 | RodOfNOD | bastar |
| 02:14.25 | RodOfNOD | d |
| 02:14.34 | volte | pats RodOfNOD |
| 02:14.35 | slightlyrandom | Well, I like games with decent replay value |
| 02:14.41 | slightlyrandom | Not a lot of them on the list right now, I find |
| 02:14.41 | volte | its just the internet :) |
| 02:14.42 | RodOfNOD | wacks volte |
| 02:14.46 | Chainclaw | This might be that I'm not sober, but what is going on in this menu? Anyone have a link to a tutorial on it? |
| 02:14.48 | slightlyrandom | They are all quite easily solved |
| 02:14.55 | Corbo | hai gais |
| 02:15.00 | RodOfNOD | hi |
| 02:15.14 | RodOfNOD | if ur not gonna be sober then im not gonna help |
| 02:15.28 | Corbo | It's time to make a POKEMON! |
| 02:15.39 | RodOfNOD | u so funny corbo |
| 02:15.40 | Kakera | Starcraftmon |
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| 02:15.45 | Chainclaw | I'll figure it out then |
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| 02:15.49 | RodOfNOD | make me an effect/emitter |
| 02:15.51 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 02:15.52 | Corbo | What pokemon should I do right now! |
| 02:16.01 | RodOfNOD | the one that requires effects and emiiters |
| 02:16.02 | slightlyrandom | Hobomon |
| 02:16.06 | Corbo | D: |
| 02:16.07 | Corbo | but |
| 02:16.07 | Kakera | Overlordmon |
| 02:16.08 | RodOfNOD | lol slightlyrandom |
| 02:16.08 | slightlyrandom | Junkiemon |
| 02:16.14 | RodOfNOD | VDmon |
| 02:16.15 | Kakera | Spawn more Overlordmons |
| 02:16.26 | Corbo | I was thinking of attempting charizard or something |
| 02:16.32 | slightlyrandom | That one might actually make it through the Blizzard filter |
| 02:16.36 | RodOfNOD | IHadSexWithYoMon |
| 02:16.38 | slightlyrandom | VCmon |
| 02:16.41 | slightlyrandom | VD* |
| 02:16.43 | Corbo | and pretend that the flame part is just an emissive |
| 02:16.47 | Corbo | still not particles |
| 02:16.49 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 02:16.51 | RodOfNOD | filter? |
| 02:16.56 | RodOfNOD | what filter |
| 02:16.57 | slightlyrandom | Word filter |
| 02:16.59 | Corbo | and I'd have to spike up the emissive.... emittance |
| 02:17.03 | slightlyrandom | God, War, Death |
| 02:17.04 | RodOfNOD | what word filter |
| 02:17.06 | slightlyrandom | Not allowed, man |
| 02:17.10 | Kakera | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248295635 |
| 02:17.27 | Kakera | I got it under ctrl+v :T |
| 02:17.38 | RodOfNOD | where are those not allowed? |
| 02:17.41 | RodOfNOD | in the game name? |
| 02:17.41 | slightlyrandom | Well, you got it there faster than I could scroll up and find the link |
| 02:17.43 | Kakera | See thread |
| 02:17.48 | slightlyrandom | In the map |
| 02:17.53 | slightlyrandom | Unit names, text strings |
| 02:17.58 | RodOfNOD | they cant detect that shit |
| 02:18.03 | RodOfNOD | so easy to get around that |
| 02:18.07 | Kakera | Apparently they can |
| 02:18.08 | RodOfNOD | just encrypt it |
| 02:18.09 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, reading text is arcane biz |
| 02:18.18 | RodOfNOD | i mean that is retarded |
| 02:18.26 | Kakera | inorite |
| 02:18.29 | Corbo | wow |
| 02:18.32 | RodOfNOD | if they censor shit like that then people will really make makes to piss them off |
| 02:18.35 | Corbo | those people have a lot of score |
| 02:18.38 | Corbo | mine's like 360 |
| 02:18.44 | Corbo | and they all have 1k + |
| 02:18.54 | RodOfNOD | when do i know i have a bad word slightlyrandom ? |
| 02:18.59 | Corbo | Where does score come from anyway? |
| 02:18.59 | RodOfNOD | when i upload? |
| 02:19.05 | slightlyrandom | When your map gets deleted from the server |
| 02:19.25 | Corbo | lol |
| 02:19.26 | RodOfNOD | they gonna get their asses sued |
| 02:19.28 | slightlyrandom | Achievements Corbo |
| 02:19.35 | Corbo | really? |
| 02:19.35 | RodOfNOD | IDK what the eula says |
| 02:19.42 | slightlyrandom | It's an achievement counter |
| 02:19.44 | Corbo | D: |
| 02:19.45 | RodOfNOD | if they stopped my map for that i will take them to court |
| 02:19.51 | RodOfNOD | spend the 100k i have in the bank |
| 02:19.52 | Corbo | how'd they get so many |
| 02:19.53 | Corbo | ;o |
| 02:20.02 | volte | it would take more than 100k |
| 02:20.07 | volte | they could easily outlast you |
| 02:20.08 | slightlyrandom | They played through the campaign and did the optional objectives |
| 02:20.14 | Corbo | I did too |
| 02:20.15 | volte | (i have no clue what you're talking about :P) |
| 02:20.16 | Corbo | QQ |
| 02:20.26 | Kakera | Wait wait |
| 02:20.31 | slightlyrandom | I have 400 points, I dont think I am more than a third through the campaign |
| 02:20.31 | RodOfNOD | i dont need laywers |
| 02:20.33 | Kakera | Starcraft, Warcraft and Diablo are bad words |
| 02:20.34 | RodOfNOD | lawyers |
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| 02:20.40 | RodOfNOD | i will fight them myselves |
| 02:20.44 | Corbo | wait WHAT? |
| 02:20.45 | RodOfNOD | myself |
| 02:20.47 | Corbo | I have like 260 |
| 02:20.50 | Corbo | 360* |
| 02:20.51 | volte | whoa there is a "Convert Legacy Map..." |
| 02:20.52 | Corbo | and I'm done |
| 02:20.54 | Kakera | STARCRAFT, the game's name, is a bad word you can't have anywhere on any custom unit or map text. |
| 02:20.56 | volte | anyone ever played with that? |
| 02:20.57 | Corbo | brb let me check |
| 02:21.05 | AsaPhelps | http://i37.tinypic.com/1zdlok0.jpg I never thought of that |
| 02:21.10 | slightlyrandom | volte: It is fairly limited |
| 02:21.17 | volte | I figured as much :( |
| 02:21.21 | Mindful | anyone know if there's a way to hide an item container and/or specific inventory slot from a player? |
| 02:21.21 | Chainclaw | Anyone have a link to a tutorial on what game attributes / game variants are? |
| 02:21.23 | slightlyrandom | Clever AsaPhelps :D |
| 02:21.36 | AsaPhelps | seems a bit small though |
| 02:21.39 | slightlyrandom | Someone just wrote one Chainclaw |
| 02:21.53 | Chainclaw | I just tried googling it and got nothing, have a link? |
| 02:22.07 | AsaPhelps | so does anyone know why I can't place projectile units on the map? like missiles etc |
| 02:22.14 | slightlyrandom | No, but maybe my google fu is better than yours |
| 02:22.24 | Mindful | probably because they're projectiles :P |
| 02:22.25 | RodOfNOD | can u have those words in the tooltip? |
| 02:22.33 | Mindful | i suspect the editor doesn't allow you to place projectiles |
| 02:22.37 | Corbo | I have 420 |
| 02:22.41 | Mindful | or any unit with the projectile flag |
| 02:22.54 | AsaPhelps | why is that :( |
| 02:22.57 | Mindful | why is that? if i had to guess, i would say it's becuase their movers are intended to take them from point A to B |
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| 02:22.58 | slightlyrandom | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/#p2 |
| 02:23.02 | Corbo | I'm happy with my kate portrait so I don't care anyway LUL |
| 02:23.05 | volte | AsaPhelps: my instinct would be to make a unit attach the projectile actor |
| 02:23.06 | Mindful | if you place them on the map, there's no A or B |
| 02:23.10 | RodOfNOD | lol AsaPhelps hilarious link |
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| 02:23.21 | Chainclaw | awesome, thanks! |
| 02:23.42 | Mindful | you can just make the unit not a missile though, and i bet you could place it |
| 02:23.47 | slightlyrandom | Corbo: Well, I did work a bit on the early achievements once I saw I could get the adjutant as a portrait |
| 02:23.49 | RodOfNOD | man they might sensor my name |
| 02:23.54 | RodOfNOD | id love it if they did |
| 02:24.03 | AsaPhelps | even when I remove all the flags I still can't place it |
| 02:24.04 | RodOfNOD | love to go to court over that |
| 02:24.11 | Mindful | asa, try changing the mover |
| 02:24.13 | Mindful | and/or the unit parent |
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| 02:24.34 | slightlyrandom | Anyone found a neat custom game they'd like to recommend? |
| 02:24.38 | volte | RodOfNOD: if they let you register your name to begin with, you're safe |
| 02:24.40 | Mindful | i lied |
| 02:24.42 | Mindful | you probably want |
| 02:24.49 | Mindful | editor flags: no placement |
| 02:24.53 | Mindful | that might, you know, prevent placement |
| 02:25.06 | slightlyrandom | If it's obscure, it'll have to be playable in single player |
| 02:25.07 | AsaPhelps | it might |
| 02:25.19 | AsaPhelps | mindful |
| 02:25.22 | Mindful | wat |
| 02:25.22 | AsaPhelps | how are you a genius |
| 02:25.28 | Mindful | um |
| 02:25.32 | Mindful | idk |
| 02:25.32 | slightlyrandom | I am, of course, using the blizzard definition of obscure here |
| 02:25.35 | volte | holy crap what is it doing!? |
| 02:25.39 | RodOfNOD | are you saying i couldnt have godisgreat as a name? |
| 02:25.42 | Mindful | if i was really a genius i could figure out how to hide a unit's inventory :( |
| 02:25.47 | volte | SC2 editor just scanned my entire HDD I think |
| 02:25.53 | RodOfNOD | they are so gonna get their asses pwned in court |
| 02:26.07 | wOlfLinG | slightlyrandom, i've invited you to a gme :) |
| 02:26.11 | RodOfNOD | when did they become the PC police |
| 02:26.28 | RodOfNOD | i get things like STARCRAFT |
| 02:26.35 | AsaPhelps | they allow you to make units explode into pools of blood |
| 02:26.40 | RodOfNOD | cuz then u could have a map called Starcraft Sucks |
| 02:26.42 | AsaPhelps | the word ass is not okay though |
| 02:27.03 | AsaPhelps | what if you wanted to make a map called Starcraft is AWESOME |
| 02:27.13 | RodOfNOD | then ud have to do SC2 is Awesome |
| 02:27.26 | wOlfLinG | lol, why'd ya leave the game random? xD |
| 02:27.28 | AsaPhelps | but I don't want to say sc2 is awesome |
| 02:27.41 | RodOfNOD | then u are out of luck it appears |
| 02:28.00 | AsaPhelps | do you think if I name a map called "don't join", people will join it? |
| 02:28.02 | RodOfNOD | what if u want to make an anatomically correct sex education game? |
| 02:28.03 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 02:28.22 | AsaPhelps | then you're going to need a bigger carrier |
| 02:28.29 | AsaPhelps | the interceptors can be sperm |
| 02:28.38 | RodOfNOD | Captain Penis meet Queen Vagina! |
| 02:28.39 | AsaPhelps | and eggs can be |
| 02:28.47 | AsaPhelps | the silia |
| 02:28.53 | AsaPhelps | OR the egg |
| 02:29.01 | Corbo | you guys should try things like |
| 02:29.04 | RodOfNOD | ok time for me to go for a RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN |
| 02:29.06 | Corbo | dea7h |
| 02:29.15 | RodOfNOD | corbo did u make my model for me? |
| 02:29.17 | Corbo | a$$ |
| 02:29.21 | Corbo | what model? |
| 02:29.23 | RodOfNOD | VDmon of course! |
| 02:29.30 | Corbo | what's that o.O |
| 02:29.36 | AsaPhelps | he wants an anatomical model of a penis |
| 02:29.40 | RodOfNOD | a pokemon that not many have heard of |
| 02:29.58 | RodOfNOD | but once u experience vdmon u never forget it |
| 02:30.05 | Corbo | D: |
| 02:30.11 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 02:30.12 | Corbo | it does sound like something sexual now |
| 02:30.17 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 02:30.32 | RodOfNOD | corbo is a bit slow tonight |
| 02:30.34 | AsaPhelps | apparently vdmon is the name of a virus |
| 02:31.14 | Corbo | try image search vdmon |
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| 02:32.43 | Chainclaw | Is there a way I can host a local multiplayer game just to test to see if my lobby settings are correct? |
| 02:33.07 | slightlyrandom | No |
| 02:33.20 | slightlyrandom | Upload it using the name "Testicles" |
| 02:33.25 | slightlyrandom | or some other test name |
| 02:33.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170) |
| 02:33.36 | slightlyrandom | Or just make a private release |
| 02:33.53 | AsaPhelps | I'd join testicles |
| 02:34.58 | Mittsies | where in the editor determines you must place zerg buildings on creep or not? |
| 02:35.09 | slightlyrandom | Its on the building |
| 02:35.13 | slightlyrandom | wait |
| 02:35.19 | slightlyrandom | maybe? |
| 02:35.19 | Mindful | well, that's unfortunate |
| 02:35.23 | Mindful | requirements don't hide inventory slots |
| 02:35.23 | Mindful | D: |
| 02:35.48 | Kakera | I just realised |
| 02:35.52 | slightlyrandom | Mittsies: I know where I'd start looking, but I dont know for sure :P |
| 02:36.00 | Mittsies | ah |
| 02:36.03 | Kakera | I can't get players to beta test my map if I ever get to that point |
| 02:36.04 | Mittsies | I'll keep looking then |
| 02:36.10 | slightlyrandom | The building, Flags |
| 02:36.20 | slightlyrandom | The building, Footprint thingie |
| 02:36.27 | slightlyrandom | the build ability |
| 02:36.32 | AsaPhelps | maybe validators |
| 02:36.44 | AsaPhelps | but I believe its the footprint |
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| 02:37.09 | wOlfLinG | Ok, why isn't my map gaining spots in the popularity list? I've started at least 10 games of it, and it's still on page 15 with 1 play :( |
| 02:37.23 | AsaPhelps | they fixed that in the second phase |
| 02:37.23 | slightlyrandom | You need at least two players for it to count, I think ? |
| 02:37.32 | wOlfLinG | Does an AI count? |
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| 02:37.47 | AsaPhelps | popularity is determined by play length |
| 02:37.51 | AsaPhelps | or something |
| 02:38.06 | wOlfLinG | It says 'plays in the last hour' :/ |
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| 02:39.22 | sugoi | got it working awesome! create damage effect, create set effect, add stimpack and stimpack damage to set, assign set as the effect for stimapck ability, remove ability cost[, remove tech req for testing], and TADA! |
| 02:39.27 | sugoi | stimpacks can kill you :) |
| 02:39.46 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 02:39.47 | sugoi | i think i'm starting to get this :) |
| 02:39.55 | sugoi | slightlyrandom: it's a good day :) |
| 02:40.31 | sugoi | how long did that take me? :) |
| 02:40.36 | ekcolnovkol | Asaphelps, are you the guy did epic? :u |
| 02:40.44 | ekcolnovkol | *who |
| 02:40.54 | volte | hmpg |
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| 02:41.04 | volte | it seems like I found what should be it... but it's not working |
| 02:41.29 | volte | the editor needs more tooltips :P |
| 02:41.42 | sugoi | volte: heh, to say the least |
| 02:41.47 | volte | :) |
| 02:42.24 | volte | so... I made a Behavior:Buff, set it to negative, and then edited the Combat - Damage Response + |
| 02:42.33 | volte | it seems like that is exactly what I want... |
| 02:42.43 | volte | but it aint werrrkin' |
| 02:43.25 | volte | lol... I just googled images "Miss" for an icon... |
| 02:43.30 | volte | can't say I regret it |
| 02:43.55 | slightlyrandom | hahaha |
| 02:45.38 | Sixen | Overload119... |
| 02:46.19 | `MindWorX | Sixen |
| 02:46.21 | `MindWorX | ... |
| 02:46.33 | Sixen | Yeah? |
| 02:46.46 | `MindWorX | Oh, we aren't just saying names? :D |
| 02:46.52 | RodOfNOD | hey Sixen |
| 02:46.57 | `MindWorX | RodOfNOD :D |
| 02:47.02 | Nesetalis | argh.. getting so confused.. i have two grenades.. stun and frag.. frag works fine, everythings perfect.. stun.. its tooltip is wrong. its tooltip is the tooltip from the blizzard Grenade.. except every place that references a tool tip that i can find, i changed to display mine D: |
| 02:47.05 | `MindWorX | You should really get me on MSN instead of here :P |
| 02:47.05 | RodOfNOD | i was gonna tell you your house was burning down earlier but |
| 02:47.10 | `MindWorX | :( |
| 02:47.16 | RodOfNOD | but i guess its too late now |
| 02:47.17 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 02:47.22 | `MindWorX | That's why it smells so burnt around here now? |
| 02:47.38 | `MindWorX | Heeey wait a minute, this isn't a keyboard, this is ashes! |
| 02:47.41 | `MindWorX | Damn this! |
| 02:48.21 | Sixen | hai rod |
| 02:49.11 | slightlyrandom | Can you add a friend to your list if he is offline ? |
| 02:49.25 | Sixen | yes |
| 02:49.35 | slightlyrandom | Thank god |
| 02:50.02 | slightlyrandom | I have tested <Name>.100-550, and I just now realized what an epic fail that would have been |
| 02:50.39 | Sixen | O_O |
| 02:50.45 | Nesetalis | anyone know where the tooltip might be getting confused? i dont even know how it could have gotten the grenade tooltip, i made it completely from scratch D: |
| 02:50.48 | `MindWorX | So kids, to anyone whome it may concern, datatables work outside the 2mb memory limit |
| 02:51.29 | `MindWorX | So if we can test the pseed of those natives, we can cook up an easy system for dynamic structs |
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| 02:51.59 | Chainclaw_ | Anyone know anything about the "VALIDATION_WORKING_SET_SCORE_SCREEN_FAIL" error? |
| 02:52.02 | AsaPhelps | anyone know how to make a unit spawn at the same height as the unit? |
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| 02:52.25 | `MindWorX | It saddens me noone even comments on what i just said |
| 02:52.31 | onetwo | Sixen can you rig it so justin bieber plays when i enter the channel |
| 02:52.42 | onetwo | baby oooooooooooooh |
| 02:52.44 | Sixen | lmao |
| 02:52.45 | `MindWorX | This place needs more... "pro" people, people that care about furthering the game mechanics |
| 02:52.53 | RodOfNOD | i CARE |
| 02:52.54 | Sixen | :( |
| 02:52.58 | RodOfNOD | i want to further the game |
| 02:53.00 | slightlyrandom | I don't |
| 02:53.00 | RodOfNOD | ! |
| 02:53.02 | onetwo | ill go pro after 50000 effects are done for my rpg |
| 02:53.03 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:53.03 | slightlyrandom | Fuck the game |
| 02:53.04 | Sysmatix | Its been 4-7 days since SC2 came out |
| 02:53.12 | Sysmatix | They will come |
| 02:53.15 | slightlyrandom | Pro is an achievement |
| 02:53.16 | Sixen | truth |
| 02:53.20 | Chainclaw_ | I tried following this thread, but there was no solution besides "delete your game variants" http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/4609-trouble-publishing-error-message/ |
| 02:53.23 | slightlyrandom | "Has wasted way too much time on this game" |
| 02:53.30 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 02:53.35 | RodOfNOD | if by this game u mean SC then yes |
| 02:53.37 | RodOfNOD | i have done that |
| 02:53.42 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 02:53.55 | RodOfNOD | if by this game u mean sc2 then i havent wasted enough ytet |
| 02:53.56 | RodOfNOD | yet |
| 02:54.08 | onetwo | Chainclaw |
| 02:54.27 | onetwo | try making sure your players in map->Player properties, all Races are set to Any |
| 02:54.28 | onetwo | for your players |
| 02:54.36 | onetwo | and then instead, set their races through the game variant |
| 02:54.36 | RodOfNOD | ok so it appears with some help from prozaic have made a fairly sophisticated yet duplicatable way of doing dynamic Command cards weeeeee |
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| 02:54.47 | onetwo | where is that SOB btw |
| 02:54.55 | Rodrigo | im soo tired :P |
| 02:54.59 | Chainclaw | ok, I'll try that, thanks |
| 02:54.59 | RodOfNOD | proz? |
| 02:55.04 | onetwo | yeah |
| 02:55.09 | Rodrigo | wasup |
| 02:55.12 | RodOfNOD | idk he and i were up last night |
| 02:55.16 | onetwo | oh |
| 02:55.18 | onetwo | i didnt see him on |
| 02:55.18 | RodOfNOD | then he went gaming |
| 02:55.19 | Rodrigo | I barely slept |
| 02:55.22 | Chainclaw | awesome, that worked, thanks |
| 02:55.25 | RodOfNOD | cuz he was helping me |
| 02:55.25 | onetwo | :D |
| 02:55.26 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 02:55.29 | onetwo | son of a |
| 02:55.32 | onetwo | he agreed to work on my map |
| 02:55.33 | onetwo | haha |
| 02:55.35 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 02:55.41 | RodOfNOD | what map ur rpg? |
| 02:55.42 | onetwo | hes making my predator |
| 02:55.43 | onetwo | na |
| 02:55.46 | onetwo | im doing a mini one in between rpg |
| 02:55.49 | RodOfNOD | ah |
| 02:55.49 | onetwo | 'Predators' |
| 02:55.52 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 02:55.54 | onetwo | i need him to rig a zealot with jets |
| 02:55.58 | onetwo | give it a shoulder gun |
| 02:56.00 | RodOfNOD | u mean like the predator from predator? |
| 02:56.00 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:56.03 | onetwo | yeah |
| 02:56.06 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 02:56.12 | slightlyrandom | the predator from predator in predator ? |
| 02:56.20 | onetwo | im thinking a fun map might be civilian stomp |
| 02:56.21 | RodOfNOD | say that fast 10 times |
| 02:56.25 | slightlyrandom | by predator, for predator |
| 02:56.27 | onetwo | just have like 50000 civilians running around the map |
| 02:56.29 | onetwo | and you have to crush them |
| 02:56.29 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 02:56.33 | onetwo | as ultralisk |
| 02:56.46 | Chainclaw | ok, it published, but now when I try and host a game I get S2GAME_INTERNAL_ERROR |
| 02:56.52 | onetwo | :/ |
| 02:56.55 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 02:56.56 | onetwo | google that |
| 02:56.58 | slightlyrandom | You broke the system! |
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| 02:57.01 | Rodrigo | I just updated my graphic card right now |
| 02:57.06 | onetwo | in realtime HD? |
| 02:57.08 | slightlyrandom | The matrix is unraveling |
| 02:57.09 | RodOfNOD | did u have the word, war, death or starcraft in the name perhaps? |
| 02:57.21 | RAW-BERRY | Anyone here working on any bound maps? |
| 02:57.26 | slightlyrandom | yeah |
| 02:57.32 | slightlyrandom | Rodrigo was |
| 02:57.32 | RodOfNOD | i prefer no bounds in my maps |
| 02:57.34 | slightlyrandom | is |
| 02:57.37 | onetwo | bound? |
| 02:57.38 | RodOfNOD | i want unlimted power |
| 02:57.39 | onetwo | reminds me of my exwife |
| 02:57.40 | onetwo | ZINGGGGGGGGGGGGG |
| 02:57.42 | onetwo | thx guys |
| 02:57.42 | slightlyrandom | Isn't that true ? |
| 02:57.43 | RodOfNOD | ;p; |
| 02:57.47 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 02:57.50 | slightlyrandom | Oh cram a sock in it |
| 02:57.55 | Corbo | D: |
| 02:57.57 | slightlyrandom | Thats what she said? |
| 02:58.05 | RAW-BERRY | I'm just trying to explore other SC2 bounds and see the methods that are being used. |
| 02:58.07 | Corbo | whatever happened to my +Corbo |
| 02:58.09 | onetwo | just like you morally crammed a sock in this channel mr random? |
| 02:58.10 | slightlyrandom | Dunno, never made one of those before |
| 02:58.15 | Corbo | I feel inferior to onetwo again now |
| 02:58.16 | Corbo | D: |
| 02:58.23 | RAW-BERRY | I have only found a few that have been uploaded thus far |
| 02:58.23 | RodOfNOD | whatever happened to my + |
| 02:58.29 | `MindWorX | I ate it |
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| 02:58.39 | Chainclaw | This is all that really came up on my google, and didn't really answer my question yet http://www.jx3.net/tdg/forum/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=3526 |
| 02:58.39 | RodOfNOD | with ur ` |
| 02:58.43 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 02:58.46 | `MindWorX | Yup |
| 02:58.46 | onetwo | drake featuring corbo - inferior |
| 02:58.50 | RodOfNOD | bastad |
| 02:58.59 | Corbo | D: |
| 02:59.02 | Corbo | just because of that |
| 02:59.09 | AsaPhelps | so, under behavior modification, I set max movement to 0, and made it modify movement, but it doesn't seem to work? :( |
| 02:59.13 | Corbo | no more walking cinematics for you! |
| 02:59.20 | RodOfNOD | i have to RUN |
| 02:59.25 | RodOfNOD | or else i will get fat |
| 02:59.32 | Sixen | lol |
| 02:59.38 | RodOfNOD | and if i get fat then no sc2 mod girl fans will like me |
| 02:59.43 | RodOfNOD | and we cant have that can we? |
| 02:59.54 | slightlyrandom | RAW-BERRY: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/spacebound/ <-- that sorta thing? |
| 02:59.57 | wOlfLinG | So i may make a map where you get a certain unit spawning and a hero that levels. You can buy upgrades for units and your hero, so you can get either an uber-hero or uber-units. |
| 03:00.07 | Corbo | you assume that there's girls playing sc2 |
| 03:00.11 | RodOfNOD | so seriously if i setup a SC2 Cruise who will come, you must be over 18 |
| 03:00.24 | Corbo | sc2 cruise? |
| 03:00.25 | RodOfNOD | and no it wont be called IBC |
| 03:00.28 | RodOfNOD | ya |
| 03:00.33 | RodOfNOD | a cruise for modders and gamer |
| 03:00.33 | RodOfNOD | s |
| 03:00.35 | RAW-BERRY | Yeah, but Space Bound is more like a maze from WC3 if you know what that is |
| 03:00.43 | RAW-BERRY | Not like the classic starcraft bound maps |
| 03:00.44 | Corbo | in |
| 03:00.46 | RodOfNOD | like a big boat u know |
| 03:00.51 | Sixen | Space Bound was based off an SC1 Map |
| 03:00.55 | Sixen | It was called Asteroid Race |
| 03:01.12 | Corbo | people making bounds? |
| 03:01.18 | RAW-BERRY | Yeah |
| 03:01.19 | RodOfNOD | pina coldas |
| 03:01.24 | RAW-BERRY | My terraining is awful though |
| 03:01.24 | RAW-BERRY | lol; |
| 03:01.24 | RodOfNOD | mai tais |
| 03:01.28 | onetwo | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6658429&id=178337772456&ref=album |
| 03:01.28 | Corbo | Piña colada |
| 03:01.31 | slightlyrandom | Dude, Rod, gamers are fucking poor |
| 03:01.32 | onetwo | you can play with them rod |
| 03:01.33 | RodOfNOD | naked poker |
| 03:01.36 | Corbo | HA! no ñ for you |
| 03:01.38 | slightlyrandom | Where is the money gonna come from ? |
| 03:01.40 | RodOfNOD | well im not dammit |
| 03:01.40 | wOlfLinG | Rod, make the dan cruise then -.- |
| 03:01.44 | wOlfLinG | damn* |
| 03:01.45 | onetwo | hAHAHHA ROD |
| 03:01.45 | onetwo | IBC |
| 03:01.46 | onetwo | hAHAHAH |
| 03:01.47 | slightlyrandom | If you're paying, I'm coming |
| 03:01.48 | onetwo | i remember that |
| 03:01.52 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:01.56 | RodOfNOD | i knew u would 12 |
| 03:02.02 | Sixen | I'm down |
| 03:02.03 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 03:02.04 | onetwo | man |
| 03:02.06 | onetwo | why ibc |
| 03:02.07 | onetwo | hahahaha |
| 03:02.08 | RodOfNOD | im serious |
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| 03:02.11 | wOlfLinG | :P |
| 03:02.13 | Corbo | I'll take the right one |
| 03:02.14 | RodOfNOD | get like 200 people that love to mod |
| 03:02.16 | onetwo | we'll confuse so many people |
| 03:02.19 | RodOfNOD | have classes |
| 03:02.20 | onetwo | itll be this huge mystery |
| 03:02.22 | onetwo | of why its called ibc |
| 03:02.27 | RodOfNOD | get some big wigs from bliz there |
| 03:02.28 | Sixen | what's ibc |
| 03:02.32 | wOlfLinG | I would, but only if: 1) You're paying and 2) 15 year olds are allowed ^^ |
| 03:02.32 | onetwo | so will their be a VIP room at this cruise for people with @'s and +'s |
| 03:02.41 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:02.44 | onetwo | there* |
| 03:02.49 | RodOfNOD | wolfling if u parents come sure :> |
| 03:02.56 | RodOfNOD | lol 12 |
| 03:02.58 | wOlfLinG | They won't :( |
| 03:03.01 | wOlfLinG | ;_; |
| 03:03.04 | RAW-BERRY | If anyone here is displeased with the current state of custom map publishing, and the game list etc. up vote this reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/cw8o8/the_real_problem_with_starcraft_2_custom_maps/ |
| 03:03.09 | Corbo | There'll be a VIP rom |
| 03:03.19 | onetwo | how do i upchuck it |
| 03:03.20 | Sixen | Raw-berry, did you write that? |
| 03:03.22 | RodOfNOD | yes but in the end the ones in the room with @ and +s will be killed MWHAHAHAH think lots of blood like ohhh in sc2? |
| 03:03.22 | Corbo | where we talk crap about +s and @s |
| 03:03.29 | RAW-BERRY | linked to the teamliquid one |
| 03:03.30 | Corbo | no @s and +s allowed |
| 03:03.30 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:03.31 | RAW-BERRY | but yes |
| 03:03.35 | RodOfNOD | good idea |
| 03:03.36 | Sixen | Saw it. Good stuff. |
| 03:03.37 | slightlyrandom | I can't focus on the text, that page has Felicia Day staring at me |
| 03:03.46 | RAW-BERRY | Thank you |
| 03:03.52 | onetwo | i hate that TL split into 5 subforums |
| 03:03.53 | onetwo | for sc2 now |
| 03:04.00 | onetwo | it was awesome having one area |
| 03:04.01 | onetwo | to discuss all |
| 03:04.15 | Sixen | I agree. |
| 03:04.28 | onetwo | we need to slap their management |
| 03:04.36 | onetwo | and meanwhile get popuilarity changed |
| 03:04.45 | wOlfLinG | slaps onetwo |
| 03:04.47 | onetwo | Sixen |
| 03:04.49 | Sixen | 12 |
| 03:04.51 | onetwo | i love vjeux's posts |
| 03:04.52 | onetwo | now |
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| 03:04.56 | onetwo | he just blatanly middle fingers |
| 03:04.58 | onetwo | popularity system |
| 03:04.59 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 03:05.02 | wOlfLinG | ya ^^ |
| 03:05.15 | Corbo | k |
| 03:05.18 | RodOfNOD | ill have to read that when i get back |
| 03:05.21 | wOlfLinG | If a map isn't popular, it won't be played |
| 03:05.24 | Corbo | time to open up the editor for the first time |
| 03:05.24 | wOlfLinG | It's simple |
| 03:05.29 | Sixen | Yeah... |
| 03:05.30 | RodOfNOD | while you guys drink jack on rocks i will running.... |
| 03:05.31 | Sixen | That's not good. |
| 03:05.39 | Sixen | It'll get us in trouble. no diea why he did that. |
| 03:05.40 | Lyrrad | Having a game where half the people don't bail the second it looks like they might not win is pretty challenging too |
| 03:05.54 | RodOfNOD | opens up a cask of Jack Daniels and hands out glasses of said spirit! |
| 03:05.56 | onetwo | meh i applaud his bravery |
| 03:05.57 | oldschool01 | hey guys, does anyone know how to export a "terrain texture set" from one map file to another? |
| 03:06.06 | Corbo | jack daniel sucks |
| 03:06.10 | onetwo | i think he was personally affected by the system |
| 03:06.11 | onetwo | maybe |
| 03:06.18 | Corbo | try walker |
| 03:06.18 | Corbo | ;o |
| 03:06.22 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 03:06.24 | wOlfLinG | drinks the spirit and then laughs cause wOlfLinG is only 15 >:D |
| 03:06.39 | RodOfNOD | hands Corbo some johnny walker blue on the rocks |
| 03:06.45 | Corbo | ;o |
| 03:06.49 | Corbo | thanks |
| 03:06.54 | wOlfLinG | drinks all of that too |
| 03:06.58 | RodOfNOD | its $200 a bottle but your worth it |
| 03:07.21 | Corbo | that actually makes me feel cheap |
| 03:07.23 | RodOfNOD | ok seriouly goes to run.....have that killer boat done when i get back corbo ? hehe |
| 03:07.40 | onetwo | you know, with the whole Category/Mode thing for maps |
| 03:07.42 | Corbo | but I don't even have max installed right now |
| 03:07.46 | Corbo | I just formatted my comp |
| 03:07.48 | onetwo | itll actually make DOTA just as bad on the popularity list |
| 03:07.48 | Corbo | just for sc |
| 03:07.49 | Corbo | 2 |
| 03:07.51 | onetwo | if there was an APEM dota |
| 03:07.53 | onetwo | -apem |
| 03:07.54 | onetwo | or w/e |
| 03:07.57 | onetwo | and all the other modes |
| 03:07.59 | onetwo | taking up half of page 1 |
| 03:08.03 | Sixen | lol |
| 03:08.06 | Chainclaw | awesome, first thing that I notice when I try hosting a private game is the buttons don't work the same as offline and I can double or triple click |
| 03:08.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 03:08.24 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:08.26 | onetwo | welcome to net coding |
| 03:08.30 | onetwo | of which i know nothing |
| 03:09.08 | Chainclaw | I have a few ideas of how to maybe handle this, but who knows what will work |
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| 03:10.06 | Dogmai | so |
| 03:10.14 | Dogmai | i thought of an idea how to improve the popularity system |
| 03:10.19 | onetwo | Win Percent IdrA.US 87.01% roxkisBratOK.EU 83.08% CheAse.US 79.59% |
| 03:10.20 | onetwo | nice |
| 03:10.23 | Lyrrad | get rid of it? |
| 03:10.24 | Dogmai | that I was going to post yesterday but the forums were down |
| 03:10.30 | onetwo | dont bother |
| 03:10.32 | Dogmai | yeah obvsly that is the first part |
| 03:10.33 | onetwo | itll just fall off page 1 |
| 03:10.35 | Dogmai | but if they dont |
| 03:10.37 | onetwo | JUST LIKE THE POPULARITY SSYTEM |
| 03:10.39 | onetwo | wooooooo |
| 03:10.41 | onetwo | what a great joke |
| 03:10.44 | Sixen | burned |
| 03:10.47 | Dogmai | insteaad of games started per hour |
| 03:10.50 | Dogmai | total time played per hour |
| 03:10.56 | Dogmai | so if a dota/rpg game goes for 50 mins |
| 03:11.06 | Dogmai | it will beat a td that lasts for 5 minutes that is played 7 times |
| 03:11.15 | onetwo | that wont work |
| 03:11.25 | onetwo | war3: I go host my map, lobby fills, i go play |
| 03:11.27 | AsaPhelps | if a unit has a changed time scale, does that make behaviors last longer/shorter? |
| 03:11.31 | onetwo | sc2: publish, host, wait 10 years |
| 03:11.38 | onetwo | or publish on day 1 and get lucky |
| 03:11.40 | Lyrrad | you still end up with a limited number of played maps because its a pain in the assz to look more then a few pages down |
| 03:11.40 | onetwo | which i did |
| 03:11.52 | Chainclaw | This publishing step is kind of a pain in the ass, I liked the Sc1 method of map hosting more |
| 03:11.58 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 03:12.09 | onetwo | popularity isnt bad but there needs to be randomness |
| 03:12.11 | onetwo | like sc1/war3 had |
| 03:12.17 | Corbo | the only system that would work is |
| 03:12.18 | onetwo | to seed our maps |
| 03:12.22 | Corbo | battle.net 1.0 |
| 03:12.29 | onetwo | but keep popularity |
| 03:12.30 | onetwo | as a side thing |
| 03:12.33 | onetwo | why not/. |
| 03:12.37 | Kakera | I just took a look at the Requirements tab to make a requirement for my hero to use Cloak |
| 03:12.46 | wOlfLinG | Proof that it sucks: Shrink TD, which was one page 1 in phase 1, is now on page 13 |
| 03:12.55 | Kakera | After I created the requirement and checked how to code it, I deleted it |
| 03:13.09 | Kakera | That looks complicated, like you need to write lines of coding and all |
| 03:13.14 | onetwo | and if you look |
| 03:13.16 | onetwo | most of the page 1 maps |
| 03:13.17 | onetwo | are 4 players |
| 03:13.19 | onetwo | coincidence? |
| 03:13.22 | wOlfLinG | nope |
| 03:13.23 | onetwo | or are 4 player maps really just better? |
| 03:13.40 | onetwo | Kakera i have no idea |
| 03:13.46 | onetwo | sometimes |
| 03:13.49 | onetwo | with the requirement editor |
| 03:13.51 | onetwo | but once you get it |
| 03:13.52 | onetwo | its awesome |
| 03:13.53 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:13.53 | wOlfLinG | I had to halve the amount of players in one of my maps just to improve the chances of it being played when it's eventually uploaded |
| 03:13.59 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:14.03 | Chainclaw | ok, looks like I fixed my extra button clicking problem, just put a check in the condition to make sure the relevant dialog was visible |
| 03:14.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster PoC (~PoC@173.216.89.117) |
| 03:14.12 | PoC | so I just beat campaign |
| 03:14.15 | wOlfLinG | from 14 players down to around 6 (7v7 -> 3v3 :() |
| 03:14.18 | Kakera | I can't do this, I knew I could do other things but I can't make a hero with spendable skill points |
| 03:14.22 | Corbo | PoC |
| 03:14.22 | PoC | looking at maps now to try and learn triggers a bit more |
| 03:14.32 | onetwo | gl |
| 03:14.35 | Corbo | nevermind |
| 03:14.38 | Kakera | It's complicated so we can do almost anything with it, but it's too complicated for me :| |
| 03:14.43 | Corbo | what to do what to do... |
| 03:15.05 | Kakera | Someone needs to invent the thought transmitter already. You place it on your head and what you imagine gets created. >:| |
| 03:15.12 | wOlfLinG | ya :D |
| 03:15.25 | Chainclaw | Kakera, I built a spendable skill point system, let me see if I can find a good way to show how |
| 03:16.39 | Dogmai | Chainclaw, i just built that last night |
| 03:16.40 | Dogmai | :P |
| 03:16.40 | Chainclaw | here's my map init for building a dialog for the skill points: http://yfrog.com/7dspendablepointsmapinitj |
| 03:17.08 | AsaPhelps | thats a lot of words |
| 03:17.28 | AsaPhelps | so i've been stuck on this for 2 days |
| 03:17.37 | PoC | is ther ea way to make like a multiplayer campaign? |
| 03:17.42 | Sixen | Sure, poC. |
| 03:17.47 | PoC | okay, has anyoen played the bloodbowl pc? |
| 03:17.50 | PoC | game? |
| 03:18.00 | Chainclaw | I built a dialog window with an array of type "-Game Link" with link type set to "Upgrade". |
| 03:18.02 | Chainclaw | Then I did this... |
| 03:18.03 | *** join/#sc2mapster SCMapper (6377c641@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.119.198.65) |
| 03:18.07 | AsaPhelps | i have an ability that stops missiles by suppressing their movement, and once the effect wears off i want them to "drop", i made a mover that drops them but I can't figure out how to change movers, and changing height doesn't seem to work since they have a target |
| 03:18.54 | Chainclaw | http://yfrog.com/misc2upgradestatj |
| 03:20.03 | Kakera | Integer... loop... if (condition)... argh, this is pure scripting. I can't code for my life. :| Guess I can always just make the abillities available at certain levels. |
| 03:20.06 | PoC | sixen, sure multiplayer campaign? |
| 03:20.24 | PoC | so is blizzard really doing the ability to sell maps on bnet? |
| 03:20.25 | Chainclaw | I built it to be flexible so I could easily add more upgrades later |
| 03:20.31 | Kakera | Nope PoC |
| 03:20.40 | Dogmai | Chainclaw |
| 03:20.44 | Dogmai | you should be using loops |
| 03:20.44 | Chainclaw | yeah? |
| 03:20.54 | nicoli_s | kakera:yes they are |
| 03:20.58 | Dogmai | your code is too long |
| 03:20.59 | Kakera | Blizzard owns all the maps you make, and they can delete them without warning and take down your ability to upload that map if it didn't fit their criterias the first time |
| 03:21.02 | Chainclaw | I used loops in the second one, not the first one |
| 03:21.08 | nicoli_s | they have said they will allow premium maps |
| 03:21.08 | Dogmai | oh |
| 03:21.12 | Dogmai | didnt look at that one yet |
| 03:21.17 | Chainclaw | the first one is all initialization, I was building a dialog window, and I couldn't figure out how to loop the initialization of it |
| 03:21.26 | Dogmai | thats neater |
| 03:21.32 | PoC | I had heard they were going to do a market place |
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| 03:21.47 | SCMapper | They were talking about a marketplace a year out of release |
| 03:22.28 | Chainclaw | When I have an array, how can I set the initial value for each value of the array? I was doing it manually in that first screenshot |
| 03:22.49 | Kakera | Well, there's a beta DotA map out there. I downloaded it and tried it out; each level like the other DotA you can spend points you earn every level and that's what I'm trying to make |
| 03:23.07 | Kakera | Not DotA, but a point spending system so the player has choices |
| 03:23.33 | PoC | when teh game load, it loads story.map, right? |
| 03:23.42 | Dogmai | easy |
| 03:23.46 | Dogmai | use a $x |
| 03:23.47 | Kakera | In the end if I can't code that, having a set skill tree isn't so bad, but it'd be much better if the player could choose what they wanted |
| 03:23.52 | Dogmai | local integer variable |
| 03:23.56 | PoC | are tehy still planning on a market place |
| 03:24.01 | Dogmai | set $x = $x+30 |
| 03:24.04 | Dogmai | ugh |
| 03:24.06 | Dogmai | +60 |
| 03:24.14 | Dogmai | include that in the loop |
| 03:24.51 | SCMapper | PoC: When they were talking about a marketplace, they were saying something like it would be implemented months after SCII's release. But they haven't talked much about any publishing features lately. |
| 03:24.55 | Dogmai | setting your first one is 30, you can either set $x to be -30, or do if $loop==1 then $x=30 |
| 03:25.15 | Dogmai | else, $x=$x+60 |
| 03:25.32 | PoC | yeah, you gotta think though, htey are still working on the other two expansions at the moment |
| 03:25.36 | PoC | and chat rooms, rgiht? |
| 03:25.37 | Chainclaw | my first one is "Terran Infantry Weapons Level 1", then "Terran Infantry Ranged" then "Terran Infantry Health" |
| 03:25.48 | Dogmai | have a text array |
| 03:25.58 | Dogmai | text[$loop] |
| 03:26.08 | PoC | so has anyone played blood bowl? |
| 03:26.32 | Chainclaw | do I do that in custom script? |
| 03:26.52 | Dogmai | no |
| 03:26.59 | Dogmai | sorry for the spam |
| 03:27.05 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.06 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.06 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.06 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.06 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.06 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:27.07 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:27.08 | Sixen | Yeah, SCMapper is correct. |
| 03:27.11 | Dogmai | that is from my map |
| 03:27.13 | rrowland | ok 2v2 |
| 03:27.14 | Sixen | Marketplace will be out around a year from now. |
| 03:27.48 | Chainclaw | Where are you doing that at? |
| 03:28.54 | Dogmai | those are variables |
| 03:29.19 | Chainclaw | I guess I'm lost at where you are doing that in the editor. |
| 03:29.24 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 03:29.32 | Dogmai | left hand side |
| 03:29.35 | rrowland | sixen remember that one time raptor jesus said children of the rex it is time to 2v2 |
| 03:29.35 | Dogmai | you have variables too |
| 03:29.40 | Chainclaw | yeah |
| 03:29.40 | rrowland | about 2 minutes ago |
| 03:29.45 | Sevenation | I hope the marketplace never comes out |
| 03:29.51 | Chainclaw | oh yeah, I have that |
| 03:29.55 | Dogmai | joe |
| 03:30.10 | Chainclaw | I mean, how do I initialize those from there, without hand-initializing them in the init script? |
| 03:30.12 | Dogmai | so, then you would basically set say |
| 03:30.23 | SCMapper | I won't mind paying some money for a marketplace if it means all these restrictions will be lifted. |
| 03:30.37 | SCMapper | since it doesn't look like they will be budging for free. |
| 03:30.40 | Dogmai | well everywhere you have 1,2,3,4,5 |
| 03:30.42 | Dogmai | you can do $x |
| 03:31.18 | Dogmai | so i would do one script that would be define variables |
| 03:31.18 | Sixen | yes, rrowland |
| 03:31.19 | Sixen | :) |
| 03:31.29 | Sixen | I'm finishing up one last mission in the campaign, if you wanna 2s. |
| 03:31.35 | rrowland | k |
| 03:31.39 | rrowland | You on the last mission? |
| 03:31.53 | Dogmai | $x=$x+1 ; variable set upgrade [$x] terrain armor level 1 |
| 03:31.54 | Dogmai | $x=$x+1 ; variable set upgrade [$x] terrain armor level 2 |
| 03:31.57 | Dogmai | etc |
| 03:31.58 | Corbo | you told me you had already finished |
| 03:32.04 | Sixen | nah, replaying one I didn't do |
| 03:32.11 | Sixen | Sky something |
| 03:32.13 | Sixen | I did the ground one |
| 03:32.15 | Dogmai | then, $amountofupgrade==$x |
| 03:32.15 | Chainclaw | gotcha |
| 03:32.27 | Dogmai | then loop it through the init script |
| 03:32.40 | Dogmai | for each integer $loopa from 1 to $amountofupgrade do |
| 03:32.41 | rrowland | Ah |
| 03:32.52 | rrowland | Ground one is more fun, sky one makes the last mission way easier though |
| 03:33.00 | Chainclaw | I don't know how that would clean up my variable initialization much. |
| 03:33.05 | rrowland | Not that I would know since I never did the last mission with air |
| 03:33.23 | rrowland | I just assume that it's a lot easier to blow up some nydus worms than deal with constant mutas and brood lords |
| 03:34.15 | Sixen | Sky was easier, definitely. |
| 03:34.15 | Dogmai | think ahead to the future |
| 03:34.21 | Sixen | I did Air, my bro did ground. Ground was hella harder. |
| 03:34.33 | Dogmai | you can easily add another button later just by adding a single line in the variable trigger and it will auto update your game |
| 03:34.49 | Dogmai | you wont have to copy paste all your stuff and fill it out manually, but thats just me :P |
| 03:34.59 | rrowland | You mean taking air out was easier right? |
| 03:35.10 | Dogmai | basically, variables should be independent from the engine whenever possible |
| 03:35.12 | Sixen | No, I took out ground. Fighting air was easier. |
| 03:35.19 | rrowland | oO |
| 03:35.27 | Chainclaw | let me post another screenshot to see if I have it right |
| 03:35.32 | Sixen | I just massed Goliath's and BC's, :p |
| 03:35.35 | rrowland | lol |
| 03:35.40 | Dogmai | in my map, it is limited to 5 abilities, i can never add more without rewriting the engine, but I did that because I knew I would never add more than 5 abilities |
| 03:35.44 | rrowland | On brutal? |
| 03:35.58 | Dogmai | as everything is based on having 5 abilities |
| 03:36.09 | Dogmai | but everything else can be easily changed |
| 03:36.12 | Sixen | Normal :x |
| 03:36.39 | Chainclaw | http://yfrog.com/06variablesettingj |
| 03:36.43 | Chainclaw | is that what you were talking about? |
| 03:36.54 | rrowland | Oh lol |
| 03:37.15 | rrowland | How can anything be hard on normal? :P |
| 03:37.21 | onetwo | i play on casual |
| 03:37.30 | onetwo | cause i want it to be super easy |
| 03:37.33 | onetwo | so i can enjoy story |
| 03:37.35 | onetwo | but its too slow |
| 03:37.39 | onetwo | needs faster game mode |
| 03:37.42 | rrowland | I recently got 100% campaign achievements 8) |
| 03:37.58 | Chainclaw | doesn't a more challenging experience make the story more rewarding? When you worked your ass off to beat that map, the consequences of your actions have more weight |
| 03:38.01 | rrowland | Also you can change your game mode to faster |
| 03:38.06 | onetwo | ? |
| 03:38.11 | Corbo | nope |
| 03:38.12 | onetwo | and is it a lot of work getting 100%? |
| 03:38.18 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 03:38.26 | onetwo | faster? |
| 03:38.27 | onetwo | how? |
| 03:38.35 | rrowland | Game options |
| 03:38.36 | Dogmai | you can modify variable O_O |
| 03:38.37 | Sixen | Menu > options > Gameplay > Speed |
| 03:38.38 | rrowland | under gameplay |
| 03:38.43 | Dogmai | i always did variable==variable+1 |
| 03:38.45 | Dogmai | god damnit |
| 03:38.47 | Dogmai | yes |
| 03:38.58 | Dogmai | thats correct, then throw it in a loop |
| 03:39.12 | Chainclaw | I guess I'm confused as to how the loop would help at that point |
| 03:39.13 | onetwo | ooh |
| 03:39.13 | Dogmai | remove techtype have that in its own trigger, or above the loop in that trigger |
| 03:39.14 | onetwo | awesome |
| 03:39.21 | rrowland | I did all missions on brutal, did all 3 achievements per mission, got 500k on lost vikings, got all the tech achievements, etc |
| 03:39.25 | Dogmai | everything else would be in the loop |
| 03:39.36 | rrowland | Beat the whole game on normal in 4 and a half hours |
| 03:39.36 | onetwo | do you get portraits for it |
| 03:39.37 | onetwo | rrowland? |
| 03:39.42 | rrowland | The achievement is 8 hours lol |
| 03:39.59 | rrowland | You get a portrait for beating it all on brutal |
| 03:40.04 | rrowland | Nothing for 100% (yet) |
| 03:40.18 | Chainclaw | oh, I think I see what you mean. |
| 03:40.19 | onetwo | its be nice to have one |
| 03:40.25 | onetwo | considering theres liek 50000 portraits already |
| 03:40.26 | Kakera | Human Kerrigan for Brutal |
| 03:40.30 | Kakera | Mengsk for Hard |
| 03:40.32 | Kakera | Jim for Normal |
| 03:40.38 | onetwo | id like some portraits for if your map had 5000 DLs |
| 03:40.40 | onetwo | or something |
| 03:40.41 | onetwo | thatd be awesome |
| 03:40.57 | rrowland | Maps could get awards |
| 03:41.03 | onetwo | :D |
| 03:41.04 | rrowland | Like league placements |
| 03:41.06 | onetwo | haha |
| 03:41.07 | rrowland | Top maps are diamond |
| 03:41.10 | rrowland | Like platinum records |
| 03:41.16 | onetwo | my map is 41-7 and is facing off idrA |
| 03:41.30 | onetwo | against* |
| 03:41.30 | Dogmai | once you understand what i mean, it becomes very fast to write scripts, its hard to explain and i dont have an example script to show you |
| 03:41.53 | Dogmai | you'll have an eureka moment :P |
| 03:42.03 | onetwo | its weird that you say a eureka |
| 03:42.06 | rrowland | a eureka* |
| 03:42.07 | Kakera | I remember so much shit from the achievements and it's only been like a week |
| 03:42.08 | onetwo | yet correctly it is an eureka |
| 03:42.09 | rrowland | mega grammar nazi |
| 03:42.20 | rrowland | nah it's a |
| 03:42.23 | onetwo | oh |
| 03:42.24 | onetwo | weird |
| 03:42.27 | onetwo | F english |
| 03:42.30 | rrowland | It's not the letter, it's the beginning sound |
| 03:42.33 | onetwo | oh |
| 03:42.34 | sugoi | rrowland: hey! i was just reading your tutorial on tracelines, i feel like i'm meeting a celeb :) |
| 03:42.34 | Corbo | screw english |
| 03:42.36 | rrowland | It begins with a soft "y" sound |
| 03:42.39 | Corbo | let's talk in spanish |
| 03:42.41 | Corbo | hola |
| 03:42.44 | onetwo | dont fuck with rrowland |
| 03:42.48 | sugoi | :( |
| 03:42.50 | onetwo | hes the fitty cent of the mapping world |
| 03:42.52 | sugoi | i wasn't |
| 03:42.52 | rrowland | lol |
| 03:42.54 | SCMapper | lol |
| 03:42.59 | rrowland | I've been e-shot 6 times |
| 03:43.02 | rrowland | And I'm still not dead |
| 03:43.07 | onetwo | he came back and built a traceline tutorial |
| 03:43.08 | rrowland | My new game comes out next week |
| 03:43.12 | onetwo | and exploded on the mapping scene |
| 03:43.19 | onetwo | hes also getting into gaming water |
| 03:43.22 | onetwo | with mountain dew |
| 03:43.23 | onetwo | deal |
| 03:43.40 | AsaPhelps | is there a way to force a unit to morph without an ability? like with an effect |
| 03:43.42 | rrowland | rrowland: flamerproof |
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| 03:44.32 | AsaPhelps | rrow, do you know how to change movers of a unit? |
| 03:44.40 | rrowland | Yes |
| 03:44.46 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccG0XI2NKKo#t=0m20s = rrowland |
| 03:44.49 | rrowland | You go to where it says "Movers" and then you change it |
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| 03:45.14 | AsaPhelps | i mean after its created |
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| 03:45.42 | AsaPhelps | like a zergling is walking along then decides he wants to fly |
| 03:46.19 | rrowland | You can't |
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| 03:46.37 | rrowland | Vikings use a morph |
| 03:46.43 | rrowland | It's 2 units |
| 03:46.52 | rrowland | One with a flying mover and one with a ground mover |
| 03:47.39 | AsaPhelps | is there any way to morph a unit without an ability, like wit ha behavior or effect? |
| 03:47.39 | volte | what the heck does "Death Response" mean inside a Behavior:Buff Behavior - Modification + ? |
| 03:47.49 | rrowland | Not sure about that one |
| 03:48.10 | onetwo | if you die |
| 03:48.20 | onetwo | you can do certain things |
| 03:48.23 | onetwo | or apply an affect |
| 03:48.29 | onetwo | effect* |
| 03:48.53 | volte | onetwo! |
| 03:49.11 | volte | I totally watched your tutorials :) |
| 03:49.11 | onetwo | professor volte! |
| 03:49.20 | volte | and I also emailed you haha :) |
| 03:49.23 | onetwo | am i better than rrowland as a person and at arts and crafts? |
| 03:49.26 | volte | (No, we've never met) |
| 03:49.32 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:50.05 | rrowland | of course not, that's not possible |
| 03:50.06 | volte | how much email spam do you get from noobs asking you how to do something in SC2? |
| 03:50.09 | rrowland | unless..... |
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| 03:50.26 | Lyrrad | Volte - I believe death response is what happens when the unit dies |
| 03:50.37 | rrowland | <russian spy link> |
| 03:51.59 | volte | oh... you emailed me back :) |
| 03:52.08 | onetwo | LOL |
| 03:52.08 | onetwo | russian spyu |
| 03:52.14 | onetwo | uh i got quite a bit volte |
| 03:52.17 | onetwo | in beta phase 1 |
| 03:52.20 | onetwo | then it tailored |
| 03:52.21 | onetwo | off |
| 03:52.24 | onetwo | then 1 day after sc2 release |
| 03:52.27 | onetwo | it skyrocketed |
| 03:52.36 | onetwo | my yyoutube views went up like 30% in one day |
| 03:52.42 | onetwo | from all of beta |
| 03:52.57 | volte | crazy |
| 03:53.00 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:53.46 | volte | right now... I'm trying to create a "miss" behavior |
| 03:54.04 | Dogmai | sixen |
| 03:54.07 | AsaPhelps | does anyone know how to make a missile lose its target? |
| 03:54.26 | volte | and then I want to create an "Accuracy" ability which can be upgraded, which will reduce the % of miss |
| 03:54.31 | volte | sighs |
| 03:54.49 | AsaPhelps | miss is easy to make |
| 03:54.51 | volte | I can easily make evasion... |
| 03:55.04 | volte | but miss is totally different |
| 03:55.07 | volte | AsaPhelps: do tell :) |
| 03:55.12 | Sixen | Yeah, Dogmai? |
| 03:55.14 | AsaPhelps | can't you just make a chance to do 0 damage? |
| 03:55.55 | volte | "make a chance to do 0 damage" |
| 03:56.07 | volte | is like saying, "just build the spacecraft, and then you're done" |
| 03:56.26 | AsaPhelps | well there's a tutorial on hit miss crit here http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5173-data-hit-crit-miss/#p10 |
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| 03:57.18 | Chainclaw | ok, how does this look for rolling my dialog initialization into a loop? http://yfrog.com/bhfinalloopingp |
| 03:57.33 | volte | yea I read that, but it doesn't do it very... prettily |
| 03:58.14 | volte | aka, no easy way to modify the miss % |
| 03:58.28 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 03:58.36 | AsaPhelps | you could apply evade to other units |
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| 03:59.12 | Dogmai | I was wondering, if you would be so kind, to take a look at this: http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/26752891 and perhaps post a news item on the site about the first two things |
| 03:59.31 | Dogmai | Because as they have said in interviews, they read sc2mapster, and those two issues are a major problem |
| 03:59.47 | Dogmai | And perhaps try and get some community support behind them |
| 04:00.33 | Sixen | I can pass it on to the devs |
| 04:00.48 | Dogmai | pass on the other two as well then :) |
| 04:01.01 | AsaPhelps | what if you made a response that made you get a behavior that caused you to do 0 damage |
| 04:01.15 | Dogmai | they should be an easy fix, just a change of variable within the games engine |
| 04:01.39 | Dogmai | thanks mate |
| 04:01.54 | PoC | oh my god, the story01.sc2map1 si so complicated with triggers |
| 04:02.30 | Sysmatix | Hey, I was wondering if I could make custom models in 3DS Studio MAx and import them into Galaxy editor. Most likely a noobie question just having difficulty finding an answer on forums. |
| 04:02.49 | Diggermoth | saw a link for that in the faq I thought |
| 04:02.54 | volte | I think you can |
| 04:03.39 | Diggermoth | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/m3-export-plugin-3ds-max/ |
| 04:03.39 | Diggermoth | that's the one they give |
| 04:03.57 | Sysmatix | I litterally just found that when you sent it :D |
| 04:03.59 | Sysmatix | Thanks |
| 04:04.12 | volte | Dogmai: yea I hate it when it minimizes all my windows |
| 04:04.14 | volte | >.< |
| 04:04.37 | Sixen | Diggermoth, the FAQ in the Custom Map forums? :) |
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| 04:07.05 | Sysmatix | They wouldn't happen to have an Exporter for maya too? |
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| 04:07.51 | Sixen | Sysmatix, I don't think NiN was working on a Maya one. |
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| 04:08.02 | Sixen | Shoot him a PM on Mapster, he can probably whip something up. |
| 04:08.07 | Sixen | NiNToxiacted01 |
| 04:08.11 | Sixen | NiNToxicated01 * |
| 04:08.26 | Sysmatix | Alright |
| 04:08.31 | ShadowTiger | yeah dogmai i think there are work-arounds for 1 & 2 |
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| 04:08.47 | Sixen | orly? |
| 04:09.27 | Dgm | twice in a row I close IRC trying to minimise it... =/ |
| 04:09.27 | Motive | Has anyone written a brief tutorial on Dialogs? |
| 04:09.37 | ShadowTiger | i think the key word in that sentence is brief? |
| 04:09.49 | Motive | Well, a tutorial on dialogs at all |
| 04:09.55 | ShadowTiger | yeah there must be some |
| 04:10.05 | Motive | A brief search doesn't seem to find any |
| 04:10.13 | RodOfNOD | ok to all my fat cells FUCK U YEA U JUST DIED A LITTLE BITCHES lol :> |
| 04:10.17 | ShadowTiger | did you search youtube as well? |
| 04:10.50 | Motive | No, I hate youtube tutorials. |
| 04:10.59 | RodOfNOD | nin is supposed to be working on an emitter effect import/exporter |
| 04:10.59 | ShadowTiger | fyi i don't think fat celss are "living" cells in your body |
| 04:11.05 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:11.09 | Sixen | NiN's a beast. |
| 04:11.14 | RodOfNOD | OMG i have undead fat cells ur right |
| 04:11.15 | Motive | Guess I'll just figure it out on my own. Lol |
| 04:11.25 | RodOfNOD | DIE U BRAIN EATING bastads! |
| 04:11.44 | RodOfNOD | or crap maybe they are vampires! |
| 04:11.55 | RodOfNOD | or i guess even werecells! |
| 04:12.02 | ShadowTiger | generally a living cell has a nucleus and a cell membrane etc... fat is just a chain of carbons and stuff |
| 04:12.13 | Mindful | ok, i can't figure this one out |
| 04:12.13 | RodOfNOD | is that really true? |
| 04:12.23 | Mindful | is there any way to give a unit a hidden inventory slot? |
| 04:12.38 | Mindful | the "hide" section under requirements won't actually hide an inventory D: |
| 04:12.38 | ShadowTiger | yeah i forget the exact compound but fat & sugars are simple bio-chemicals, not as complex as a cell |
| 04:12.40 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/so-you-think-youre-hybrid/. So you think you're a Hybrid?. acidragoon (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 04:12.40 | RodOfNOD | hidden how? |
| 04:12.46 | Mindful | just like the player can't see it |
| 04:12.52 | Mindful | but they can still pick up items and the items would go there |
| 04:13.09 | ShadowTiger | when in doubt... duge it |
| 04:13.12 | ShadowTiger | *fudge |
| 04:13.50 | RodOfNOD | ShadowTiger: ur wrong i have living proof: http://www.stepsweightloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/fat-baby-mouse.jpg |
| 04:13.56 | RodOfNOD | a LIVING FAT CELL!!!! |
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| 04:14.09 | Mindful | anyone have any ideas? |
| 04:14.11 | RodOfNOD | ah interesting idea mind |
| 04:14.15 | RodOfNOD | i have yet to make one item |
| 04:14.19 | Dogmai | yeah, the minimizing is a pain, but seeing that I am only using one window atm, trigger, it is not that bad |
| 04:14.25 | RodOfNOD | but let me dig in the editor mwhahaa |
| 04:14.41 | Mindful | alright |
| 04:14.51 | RodOfNOD | no comments on my fat cell picture? |
| 04:15.23 | Mindful | letm e look at this |
| 04:15.39 | ShadowTiger | comments... not hungry right now? |
| 04:15.39 | Mindful | X_X |
| 04:15.53 | RodOfNOD | that is the cutest pic u have ever seen now come on |
| 04:16.15 | RodOfNOD | lol a 24 slot bag |
| 04:16.19 | RodOfNOD | hillarious |
| 04:16.26 | RodOfNOD | so what do u do in ur game? |
| 04:16.29 | RodOfNOD | oh i pick up shit |
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| 04:16.38 | RodOfNOD | anything else? |
| 04:16.49 | RodOfNOD | nope just collect garbage some zergling left |
| 04:16.53 | Sixen | lol |
| 04:17.11 | Mindful | what? |
| 04:17.14 | RodOfNOD | im glad i can amuse u sixen |
| 04:17.15 | volte | ok lets try something a little more simple. I'm sure someone here knows how to do this. I've got an item which when "equipped" I'd like to increase the sight of the carrier. |
| 04:17.19 | Sixen | "_ |
| 04:17.21 | Sixen | :)* |
| 04:17.23 | RodOfNOD | u seem to laugh at my jokes alot u must be old |
| 04:17.32 | Sixen | Or tired. |
| 04:17.34 | RodOfNOD | or should i say... sophisticated |
| 04:17.37 | ShadowTiger | more cute http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/51136-XBOX_360_Plush_Edition_V2_by_kickass_peanut.jpg |
| 04:17.39 | rrowland | sqrueeeeeeeeawkk |
| 04:17.40 | Sixen | Complex. |
| 04:17.52 | rrowland | The blood curdling cry of a hungry raptor jesus |
| 04:17.54 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:18.27 | mahashiro | hey guys, I'm trying to remove the siege mode research requirement |
| 04:18.39 | RodOfNOD | be careful it might be rigged for a boom mahashiro |
| 04:18.40 | mahashiro | I just go to the ability information |
| 04:18.50 | mahashiro | for a boom? |
| 04:19.01 | ShadowTiger | there is a behavior that increases unit sight |
| 04:19.06 | RodOfNOD | explosion? |
| 04:19.14 | ShadowTiger | *behavior field |
| 04:19.42 | ShadowTiger | isnt there a tutorial on requirements |
| 04:19.45 | mahashiro | I'm supposed to just remove the count upgrade siegetech research node right? |
| 04:19.51 | mahashiro | yea that's what I read |
| 04:19.52 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 04:19.59 | mahashiro | well it keeps on getting reset |
| 04:20.02 | mahashiro | for some reason |
| 04:20.04 | mahashiro | idk what it is |
| 04:20.13 | ShadowTiger | as in you close the editor and it changes back? |
| 04:20.21 | mahashiro | well not even closing it |
| 04:20.25 | mahashiro | whenever I go to different info pane |
| 04:20.29 | mahashiro | it resets |
| 04:20.40 | Keen| | can you spot Bill Roper?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu2nmeKvN1I |
| 04:20.40 | RodOfNOD | let me try |
| 04:20.43 | RodOfNOD | making new map///// |
| 04:20.58 | ShadowTiger | alot of people complain about stuff like this |
| 04:21.00 | Keen| | he wears no pants |
| 04:21.18 | ShadowTiger | one easy solution is to: NEVER modify base items in the editor |
| 04:21.27 | ShadowTiger | always copy paste and make your own : D |
| 04:21.34 | mahashiro | is that better? |
| 04:21.40 | mahashiro | I thought if you make your own objects |
| 04:21.42 | RodOfNOD | so based on that thinking shadow i have a ? |
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| 04:21.47 | mahashiro | other people have to dl them |
| 04:22.06 | mahashiro | like in the component files |
| 04:22.09 | RodOfNOD | if i want to have a unit that is like a marine but with one minor change but i want it to get all of blizzards upgrades if they ever upgrade it what should i do? |
| 04:22.16 | mahashiro | it's a lot smaller to have modified values |
| 04:22.22 | ShadowTiger | no |
| 04:22.24 | ShadowTiger | not true |
| 04:22.26 | ShadowTiger | its identical |
| 04:22.38 | mahashiro | is it? |
| 04:22.42 | ShadowTiger | the only difference is whether or not you can compare your custom stuff to the original stuff without opening another map |
| 04:23.01 | ShadowTiger | yeah if you modify the core values, it has to send those to everyone, just like it would send your custom stuff over |
| 04:23.14 | volte | ShadowTiger: yea I've set that, but it doesn't seem to work |
| 04:23.26 | mahashiro | yea I know that |
| 04:23.35 | mahashiro | maybe we're talking about different things |
| 04:23.41 | mahashiro | or maybe I'm not reading the right stuff |
| 04:23.46 | mahashiro | int the comp files |
| 04:23.47 | mahashiro | h/o brb |
| 04:23.49 | ShadowTiger | okay sorry |
| 04:24.04 | ShadowTiger | um what are you talking about volte? |
| 04:25.28 | onetwo | yeah volte |
| 04:25.31 | ShadowTiger | also to answer Rod.. you can just copy paste only the marine unit and have it link to all the other stuff just fine |
| 04:25.32 | onetwo | what the hell are you talking about |
| 04:25.46 | onetwo | shadow dont you need the actor though? |
| 04:25.51 | RodOfNOD | mahashiro: i just made a new map, i removed the node and all is well when i run the map |
| 04:25.53 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 04:26.00 | ShadowTiger | you always need to make a new actor |
| 04:26.01 | RodOfNOD | ie i didnt need to upgrade to siege |
| 04:26.23 | volte | ShadowTiger: I'm just trying to get an item to increase the sight range of the carrier |
| 04:26.23 | mahashiro | I did it before on another map |
| 04:26.30 | ShadowTiger | oh i see |
| 04:26.31 | mahashiro | but it's not working on this one |
| 04:26.42 | mahashiro | I can change it to use some other requirement |
| 04:26.49 | mahashiro | but I can't get rid of it altogether it seems |
| 04:26.58 | ShadowTiger | are you sure that your behavior is on the unit, do you see the icon |
| 04:27.08 | RodOfNOD | but if i copy and paste am i not making it seperate from any blizzard upgrades? ShadowTiger ? |
| 04:27.13 | mahashiro | shadowtiger, I was talking about the unitdata.xml file |
| 04:27.19 | ShadowTiger | sorry i ment duplicate |
| 04:27.32 | ShadowTiger | i havent messed with component stuff |
| 04:27.50 | mahashiro | well it looks like if you just modify something |
| 04:27.56 | mahashiro | it inherits all the parent unit's fields |
| 04:28.01 | RodOfNOD | mahashiro: i removed the node on the requirment itself |
| 04:28.04 | mahashiro | otherwise it copies them over |
| 04:28.36 | volte | ShadowTiger: were you talking to me? |
| 04:28.39 | ShadowTiger | well it shouldn't effect performance and map size in a significant way... its mostly about how much time you want to spend in the editor |
| 04:28.53 | ShadowTiger | volte im looking at it in the editor |
| 04:29.01 | volte | :/ |
| 04:29.24 | RodOfNOD | ShadowTiger: if u cnp or u duplicate it does same thing but if u just modify say the marine it will then make a new marine but same id ie MARINE |
| 04:29.25 | ShadowTiger | did you increase the sight minium? |
| 04:29.47 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 04:30.00 | RodOfNOD | ie i believe cnp or duplciate will not make future unit changes by blizzard be part of ur unit |
| 04:30.03 | ShadowTiger | if you are only going to modify a few units and thats it in the data editor... sure just modify the base unit |
| 04:30.10 | ShadowTiger | but if you are going to make 50 new units |
| 04:30.17 | ShadowTiger | then make coppies |
| 04:30.19 | RodOfNOD | well i believe there is an issue with modifying the base unit |
| 04:30.22 | volte | why would I increase sight-min? |
| 04:30.24 | onetwo | volte what the hell are you talking about |
| 04:30.30 | ShadowTiger | just to see if that does anything : D |
| 04:30.33 | volte | onetwo: !!? |
| 04:30.40 | ShadowTiger | threefour: !!? |
| 04:30.42 | mahashiro | nice, I got it to be erased |
| 04:30.48 | RodOfNOD | if u modify the base unit then blizzard changes something that u have also changed there could be an issue if blizzard say did a REMOVE command on the item |
| 04:30.50 | mahashiro | I deleted the actual expression |
| 04:30.59 | mahashiro | instead of remove requirement node |
| 04:31.02 | RodOfNOD | because the REMOVE might not really be the same item if blizzard updates the melee file for example |
| 04:31.13 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 04:31.15 | mahashiro | hmm |
| 04:31.16 | RodOfNOD | cool |
| 04:31.20 | mahashiro | that might be right |
| 04:31.26 | mahashiro | I thought everyone had the same core |
| 04:31.28 | mahashiro | by default though |
| 04:31.34 | ShadowTiger | well all i knows is that blizz's patches ruined my TD |
| 04:31.38 | RodOfNOD | and i think this is why some people have issues when blizzard upgrades patches |
| 04:31.39 | ShadowTiger | and brok a few dozen links |
| 04:31.44 | mahashiro | it ruined my masser T_T |
| 04:31.56 | volte | onetwo: what did I say? |
| 04:31.57 | mahashiro | I was trying to get the old attack move rally points |
| 04:32.00 | RodOfNOD | and were ur links on units that were modified base units or NEW units? |
| 04:32.00 | onetwo | i was jking |
| 04:32.23 | RodOfNOD | i saw a sixtwo the otherday |
| 04:32.24 | ShadowTiger | moslty new units, some modified base units |
| 04:32.25 | volte | oh haha |
| 04:32.30 | RodOfNOD | and it broke both? |
| 04:32.30 | volte | totally threw me off guard |
| 04:32.35 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 04:32.43 | RodOfNOD | ur 100% sure |
| 04:32.51 | RodOfNOD | cuz i thought i had a great theory :P |
| 04:32.56 | ShadowTiger | for example they renamed the ID for hunter seekers, so that got broken had to change it to the knew one |
| 04:33.10 | RodOfNOD | well hold on |
| 04:33.13 | ShadowTiger | even though i was using the base raven |
| 04:33.17 | ShadowTiger | modified |
| 04:33.30 | onetwo | wait |
| 04:33.31 | onetwo | volte |
| 04:33.34 | onetwo | what the hell |
| 04:33.37 | volte | :) |
| 04:33.37 | RodOfNOD | is the hunterseeker a blizzard unit? |
| 04:33.44 | ShadowTiger | ability yes |
| 04:33.46 | volte | what YOUR HELL |
| 04:34.03 | RodOfNOD | well that was based off an existing ability |
| 04:34.03 | onetwo | as opposed to whos unit |
| 04:34.04 | onetwo | rodofnod |
| 04:34.15 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 04:34.15 | RodOfNOD | tell me wherere it broke a link on a non based ability unit etc |
| 04:34.17 | RodOfNOD | yes? |
| 04:34.25 | ShadowTiger | oh |
| 04:34.29 | RodOfNOD | oh a shadowtiger unit |
| 04:34.36 | RodOfNOD | ie a new only on his map unit |
| 04:34.40 | RodOfNOD | i dont know all the units yet |
| 04:34.41 | ShadowTiger | ? |
| 04:34.48 | ShadowTiger | im confused |
| 04:34.51 | RodOfNOD | so i didnt know if he made a new id |
| 04:35.00 | RodOfNOD | ok there are 2 ways to make data items |
| 04:35.06 | RodOfNOD | from scratch and based off an existing |
| 04:35.16 | ShadowTiger | yes though there isn't much difference |
| 04:35.23 | RodOfNOD | ok but |
| 04:35.33 | RodOfNOD | in the case of units lets say that blizz updates damage oif a marine |
| 04:35.35 | RodOfNOD | from x to y ok? |
| 04:35.55 | RodOfNOD | if i used based then my new unit will also get the update UNLESS i happen to also alter that value yes? |
| 04:36.07 | ShadowTiger | yes |
| 04:36.09 | RodOfNOD | whereass if i do it from scratch OR do a cnp OR do a duplicate it wont correct? |
| 04:36.27 | ShadowTiger | if when you duplicate, you set the parent unit to marine, you will get the update |
| 04:36.32 | ShadowTiger | its an extra step |
| 04:36.45 | RodOfNOD | so if i dont modify the field it will auto update? |
| 04:36.55 | ShadowTiger | i'm guessing yes |
| 04:36.56 | RodOfNOD | what if i add an ability and blizzard adds an ability |
| 04:36.58 | RodOfNOD | what will happen? |
| 04:37.02 | ShadowTiger | same id? |
| 04:37.07 | RodOfNOD | yes say both marine |
| 04:37.52 | ShadowTiger | well if you both add an aibilty to the marine, yours will show up since yours is a modified unit |
| 04:38.17 | RodOfNOD | ok so if blizzard upgrades cost of marine from say 50 to 75 |
| 04:38.22 | sugoi | ok guys i've a good one |
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| 04:38.30 | sugoi | how does thor req for 250mm work? |
| 04:38.31 | RodOfNOD | and i change the marine to be 50 + 50 of vespene |
| 04:38.33 | RodOfNOD | what will happen? |
| 04:38.39 | sugoi | there is a req that says 'not upgraded to 330' |
| 04:38.41 | RodOfNOD | when bliz upgrades |
| 04:38.44 | sugoi | but that's it |
| 04:38.47 | ShadowTiger | yeah your changes will appear |
| 04:38.51 | ShadowTiger | blizzards wont |
| 04:38.57 | sugoi | i can't find what says you need the 250mm upgrade in the tech lab |
| 04:39.05 | RodOfNOD | will the 75 change occur remember i didnt change the mineral only the vespene?" |
| 04:39.16 | RodOfNOD | let me dig sugoi |
| 04:39.19 | onetwo | andre agassi |
| 04:39.54 | onetwo | LOL |
| 04:39.55 | onetwo | "Battle.Net 2.0? More like Battle.Net -2.0" |
| 04:39.56 | onetwo | ah |
| 04:39.59 | mahashiro | yea if you overwrite anything |
| 04:40.01 | onetwo | good ole forum thread titles |
| 04:40.02 | mahashiro | your changes will show |
| 04:40.09 | mahashiro | because it's in the unitdata.xml file |
| 04:40.15 | mahashiro | which overwrites blizzards |
| 04:40.18 | RodOfNOD | i know but i DIDNT upgrade the minerals |
| 04:40.20 | mahashiro | at map loading time |
| 04:40.23 | ShadowTiger | yeah apparently it used to be called 330mm cannons, just delete that requirement to remove the requirement |
| 04:40.33 | ShadowTiger | basically it hides the button until you research the upgrade |
| 04:40.38 | mahashiro | it's in the cost tab? |
| 04:40.42 | mahashiro | I thought it was |
| 04:40.50 | RodOfNOD | yes both are in the same tab |
| 04:40.55 | RodOfNOD | but both have seperate catalog values |
| 04:40.59 | mahashiro | yea it's in the unitdata.xml |
| 04:41.05 | RodOfNOD | as well as sepeate xml entries |
| 04:41.08 | mahashiro | <costresource index="minerals" |
| 04:41.10 | mahashiro | like that |
| 04:41.14 | RodOfNOD | of course |
| 04:41.21 | mahashiro | what's your question? |
| 04:41.33 | RodOfNOD | so if if i change the vespene but not the mineral it will update the mineral? |
| 04:41.43 | Fatal5101 | http://www.speedtest.net/result/899997876.png |
| 04:41.44 | mahashiro | yea I think so |
| 04:41.45 | ShadowTiger | probably not... |
| 04:41.47 | Fatal5101 | awesome speeds! |
| 04:41.50 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:41.55 | mahashiro | well it's a different entry |
| 04:42.00 | RodOfNOD | well the issue is huge difference from the mxl file |
| 04:42.01 | mahashiro | it should I think |
| 04:42.01 | RodOfNOD | xml |
| 04:42.02 | ShadowTiger | its possible... you would have to test to be sure |
| 04:42.18 | RodOfNOD | IF i duplicate a unit, or cnp it it will create a completey NEW all inclusive xml file |
| 04:42.31 | RodOfNOD | if however i just change an existing unit it will ONLY add that item to the xml |
| 04:42.41 | RodOfNOD | so based on that i would say that it wont update a duplicate or cnp unit |
| 04:42.48 | RodOfNOD | and thats why im unsure |
| 04:42.58 | RodOfNOD | i guess we will need to test next upgrade :> |
| 04:43.07 | volte | this is ridiculous that such a simple effect is not working :/ |
| 04:43.14 | RodOfNOD | volte whats wrong? |
| 04:43.18 | ShadowTiger | like i said, if you assign a parent value then it will be the same as modifying the base in terms of update |
| 04:43.34 | RodOfNOD | but its exporting the entire xml file |
| 04:43.42 | RodOfNOD | how would it know what i had changed and what i hadnt? |
| 04:43.56 | volte | RodOfNOD: I just want an item that increases the sight of the holder |
| 04:44.07 | volte | I must be doing something stupid... |
| 04:44.09 | RodOfNOD | pick up item and sight increase should be easy |
| 04:44.22 | RodOfNOD | first off is their an ability that already does this? |
| 04:44.27 | sugoi | RodOfNOD: find anything? |
| 04:44.51 | volte | RodOfNOD: I was thinking Ocular Implants, but I can't find it anywhere |
| 04:44.55 | RodOfNOD | shit sugoi 14 things at once what was i lokiong at |
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| 04:45.00 | RodOfNOD | for u |
| 04:45.02 | RedWraith | goddamnit vjeux |
| 04:45.08 | RedWraith | You're kidding, right? |
| 04:45.40 | ShadowTiger | volte it works |
| 04:45.43 | ShadowTiger | but its a % |
| 04:46.01 | RedWraith | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/5516-wip-line-tower-wars/ |
| 04:46.05 | RedWraith | What the hell. |
| 04:46.10 | Motive | Why on Earth does "Display Custom Dialog" require "authorization"? |
| 04:46.10 | Motive | o_o |
| 04:46.12 | RedWraith | That's not an anti-walling algorithm. |
| 04:46.14 | RedWraith | Not even close. |
| 04:46.25 | RedWraith | I'll publish mine. :P |
| 04:46.29 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 04:46.31 | ShadowTiger | mine is better |
| 04:46.34 | volte | ShadowTiger: what works? |
| 04:46.44 | ShadowTiger | the behavior sight modification... but its a % |
| 04:46.48 | ShadowTiger | so 100 = double sight |
| 04:47.01 | volte | I put it at 1000 and it didn't do anything |
| 04:47.07 | Motive | Isn't an anti-walling algorithm really easy in SC2 with the functions dedicated to checking pathing anyways? |
| 04:47.09 | ShadowTiger | works for me |
| 04:47.14 | volte | what window are you in? |
| 04:47.16 | ShadowTiger | are you sure your behavior is active on the unit |
| 04:47.24 | volte | yea the little icon shows up |
| 04:47.27 | ShadowTiger | okay |
| 04:47.29 | onetwo | switch over to input and channel 3 as well |
| 04:47.34 | ShadowTiger | window? behavior -> unit |
| 04:47.43 | ShadowTiger | behavior -> modification -> unt |
| 04:47.50 | RedWraith | Motive, his is shit tier. |
| 04:47.54 | RedWraith | He didn't even publish the code. |
| 04:47.56 | Motive | Lol |
| 04:48.01 | Motive | He acted like an ass when someone pointed out the pathing code |
| 04:48.17 | ShadowTiger | his algorithm assumes all buildings are uniform size... |
| 04:48.23 | volte | ShadowTiger: yea... that's where I am too |
| 04:48.25 | Sixen | Who're we talking about? |
| 04:48.25 | onetwo | be nice :D |
| 04:48.27 | Motive | Very simple anti-wall |
| 04:48.31 | Motive | use the point where units spawn |
| 04:48.34 | Motive | and when buildings areb eing built |
| 04:48.37 | RodOfNOD | ShadowTiger: when u say that path beh > mod > unit what do u mean |
| 04:48.42 | Motive | recheck pathing: if result = -1, destroy the building "Detected block" |
| 04:48.43 | Motive | problem solved. |
| 04:48.43 | RodOfNOD | im in behavior |
| 04:48.46 | RodOfNOD | but i dont see mod |
| 04:48.46 | Motive | no algorithm needed. |
| 04:48.47 | Motive | xD |
| 04:49.13 | ShadowTiger | behavior - modifaction + (press ctrl -t to turn off table view) |
| 04:49.28 | RodOfNOD | k i see its a field |
| 04:49.36 | RodOfNOD | i was expecting u to say waht kind of behavior first |
| 04:49.47 | ShadowTiger | its generic : D |
| 04:50.35 | RodOfNOD | i see sight min and max |
| 04:50.38 | RodOfNOD | plus a bonus |
| 04:50.41 | volte | whoa that looks better :) |
| 04:50.42 | RodOfNOD | which are u changing |
| 04:51.19 | volte | I changed them all! |
| 04:51.24 | volte | lol... except min |
| 04:51.27 | RodOfNOD | and did it work? |
| 04:51.29 | volte | well, I changed that too, but its back now |
| 04:51.32 | volte | no nothing is working |
| 04:51.33 | volte | >.< |
| 04:51.39 | ShadowTiger | hmmm volte it looks like its capped at double |
| 04:51.41 | ShadowTiger | it works for me |
| 04:51.58 | volte | do I need to change the durration of the behavior? |
| 04:52.02 | volte | it's at 0.0 right now |
| 04:52.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rodrigo (cf06e61b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.6.230.27) |
| 04:52.04 | ShadowTiger | should be 0 |
| 04:52.06 | ShadowTiger | thats infinite |
| 04:52.08 | volte | ok |
| 04:52.18 | volte | I thought -1.0 was infinite... |
| 04:52.31 | Rodrigo | hey |
| 04:52.36 | Rodrigo | Im starting a debates match soon |
| 04:52.39 | volte | although I guess a 0.0 durration on a buff wouldn't make sense |
| 04:52.41 | RodOfNOD | so did i volte |
| 04:52.46 | Rodrigo | if you guyz want to play, add me: RODRIGO 881 |
| 04:53.07 | ShadowTiger | rodrigo, give up, you are not going to win this weeks contest |
| 04:53.12 | volte | we're on IRC, I think we get enough debates as it is |
| 04:53.30 | volte | ;-) |
| 04:53.55 | Rodrigo | LMAO |
| 04:54.48 | RodOfNOD | no we dont volte ur wrong !! |
| 04:55.01 | RodOfNOD | ill debate u on that now! |
| 04:55.06 | Rodrigo | I just hope blizzard does not delete my map Lmao |
| 04:55.20 | volte | RodOfNOD: LETS FIGHT!111 |
| 04:55.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zanam (603c0a44@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.60.10.68) |
| 04:55.21 | RodOfNOD | is ur map evil |
| 04:55.25 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 04:55.27 | Rodrigo | i know |
| 04:55.28 | Rodrigo | hahaha |
| 04:55.30 | RodOfNOD | slams volte with a big salami |
| 04:55.35 | volte | damn |
| 04:55.35 | Rodrigo | "Map deleted. Reason: evilness" |
| 04:55.38 | volte | my weakness |
| 04:55.48 | RodOfNOD | hungry? i know i am |
| 04:55.53 | RodOfNOD | goes to eat something |
| 04:56.09 | Rodrigo | we should all report all crappy popular maps |
| 04:56.17 | ShadowTiger | volte yeah it looks like its not a %, but its capped at +5 sight or somethign |
| 04:56.17 | Zanam | quick question that hopefuly has a simple answer... the map editor's 'generate terrain foliage' function. is there any way to undo that well after it's left the undo history |
| 04:56.28 | Rodrigo | and give a reason: "Theres one secret level in which they say the word starcraft" |
| 04:56.29 | volte | ShadowTiger: wwwww....whaaat? |
| 04:56.33 | volte | that is reTARDED |
| 04:56.37 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 04:56.39 | ShadowTiger | yeah srsly |
| 04:56.40 | Rodrigo | im kidding |
| 04:56.41 | RedWraith | ~seen vjeux |
| 04:56.43 | purl | vjeux <52e9ed5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.233.237.91> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 7h 29m 4s ago, saying: 'if you are working in two different triggers'. |
| 04:56.46 | RedWraith | boohoo |
| 04:56.48 | ShadowTiger | you can probably get higher with upgrades but thats really limiting |
| 04:56.49 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 04:57.00 | Rodrigo | of course I will not do that |
| 04:57.02 | ShadowTiger | in that its a pain to enter in EVERY unit that can get that item into the upgrade list |
| 04:57.05 | volte | how does Blizzard expect me to do stuff when they go capping things behind my back |
| 04:57.09 | volte | I have hitmen for that |
| 04:57.15 | Rodrigo | haha |
| 04:57.48 | Motive | Anyone know if it's possible to customize the Help menu? |
| 04:57.50 | ShadowTiger | if you have hitmen killing people behind your back... thats a pretty unstable situation |
| 04:57.55 | Motive | Like, add your own help pages |
| 04:58.01 | ShadowTiger | yes |
| 04:58.04 | ShadowTiger | check my map yo |
| 04:58.07 | Rodrigo | hey |
| 04:58.13 | Rodrigo | did u guyz watch the new debates video? |
| 04:58.19 | Rodrigo | our matches from yesterday |
| 04:58.20 | Motive | What map is that? |
| 04:58.22 | Rodrigo | ;) |
| 04:58.26 | Rodrigo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTU__w-Eyt4 |
| 04:58.27 | ShadowTiger | ShadowTD |
| 04:58.40 | ShadowTiger | currently discontinuarse |
| 04:59.10 | RedWraith | hey guys |
| 04:59.13 | RedWraith | does anyone want to do a video |
| 04:59.20 | Rodrigo | about what |
| 04:59.20 | RedWraith | of my anti-walling algorithm in action? |
| 04:59.25 | RedWraith | so I can put the other guy to shame? |
| 04:59.25 | Rodrigo | :S |
| 04:59.27 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 04:59.32 | Motive | Thanks |
| 04:59.42 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 04:59.44 | volte | can haz moar tooltips in editor plz! |
| 04:59.46 | volte | ktnxbai |
| 05:00.29 | ShadowTiger | btw i dunno what mouse you use to play starcraft, but if you need more apm there is no substitute for this L33t gaming mouse http://www.geekologie.com/2007/04/mouse-mouse.jpg |
| 05:00.37 | Rodrigo | hahhah |
| 05:00.54 | volte | wtf... |
| 05:01.01 | Motive | Hm, yeah, that's just Tips |
| 05:01.07 | Rodrigo | can I have a cat keyboard? |
| 05:01.10 | Motive | I was hoping to add a whole new menu, or populate Tutorials like tips with hide/show stuff |
| 05:01.20 | volte | caresses his Razer |
| 05:01.27 | ShadowTiger | oh... is that why you wanted a dialogue tutorial? |
| 05:01.45 | ShadowTiger | throws his Razer at the wall |
| 05:01.59 | Motive | Yeah xD |
| 05:02.27 | ShadowTiger | well then don't take shortcuts... figure out dialogues |
| 05:02.37 | Rodrigo | theres SO LONG TIME I dont use irc |
| 05:02.39 | volte | Rodrigo: is that your map? |
| 05:02.42 | Rodrigo | since I was a kid |
| 05:02.51 | Rodrigo | volte, yes |
| 05:02.53 | Rodrigo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTU__w-Eyt4 |
| 05:02.56 | Rodrigo | this is the game |
| 05:02.58 | Rodrigo | from yesteday |
| 05:03.03 | Motive | I looked at 'em. Just too much of a pain in the ass to bother. |
| 05:03.03 | ShadowTiger | and the day before |
| 05:03.03 | volte | how did you get to enter text without it showing up in the chatlog? |
| 05:03.22 | Rodrigo | its a script |
| 05:03.26 | Rodrigo | it gets the keys |
| 05:03.33 | ShadowTiger | the nice thing about built in tips is that the button pops up and links to them |
| 05:03.35 | volte | interesting :/ |
| 05:03.36 | Rodrigo | theres a function do get the key pressed |
| 05:03.42 | Rodrigo | then, it adds the key into the string |
| 05:03.59 | ShadowTiger | then you take the string and tie it around a unit |
| 05:03.59 | volte | I can't wait until the dialog edit field thingy gets implimented |
| 05:04.04 | Rodrigo | then, it updates the label inside the dialog box with the string content |
| 05:04.07 | ShadowTiger | and you have the unit run around some zerg |
| 05:04.12 | ShadowTiger | and he clotheslines them |
| 05:04.22 | volte | lol |
| 05:04.31 | Rodrigo | this is something blizzard is not liking |
| 05:04.36 | Rodrigo | because the chat box is filtered |
| 05:04.42 | Rodrigo | but not my dialog text box |
| 05:04.44 | volte | where did you get that brain pic? |
| 05:04.46 | Rodrigo | its not filtered |
| 05:04.56 | Motive | Hm |
| 05:04.59 | Motive | the thoughts on your map are kind of boring |
| 05:05.01 | ShadowTiger | its also not unlaggy |
| 05:05.02 | Motive | "Life is perfect" |
| 05:05.05 | Motive | Well I can disprove that one quick... |
| 05:05.12 | Rodrigo | the brain pic I got from the clip-art. Then I changed a lot on photoshop |
| 05:05.24 | Motive | You need more thought-provoking topics. :P |
| 05:05.34 | ShadowTiger | yeah like why did the zergling cross the road |
| 05:05.49 | Sysmatix | Im thinking of making a firebat for SC2 |
| 05:05.49 | Rodrigo | the dialog text box does not lag with good conections or playing local |
| 05:06.02 | Fromethius | anyone around that knows why for levels 2 and 3 of my neural parasite ability the animation for the tentacle extending from the infestor to the target is bugged? |
| 05:06.06 | Motive | "chickens are more important than pigs" |
| 05:06.07 | ShadowTiger | as opposed to the firebat already in sc2? |
| 05:06.08 | Motive | jesus christ |
| 05:06.08 | Rodrigo | but you can still type without reading it |
| 05:06.11 | Motive | some up some some interesting debates |
| 05:06.12 | Sysmatix | Yup |
| 05:06.12 | Motive | xD |
| 05:06.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster }xx{ (~vgvg@c-98-192-26-146.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 05:06.16 | Sysmatix | Like orginial SC1 model |
| 05:06.17 | Rodrigo | and you can type using chat box |
| 05:06.25 | mahashiro | make a goon instead! |
| 05:06.33 | mahashiro | I want a goon lol |
| 05:06.36 | Sysmatix | I would rape the polylimit |
| 05:06.40 | }xx{ | SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS |
| 05:06.50 | }xx{ | wats up |
| 05:06.50 | onetwo | just like you morally raped this channel |
| 05:06.53 | Sysmatix | Yes |
| 05:06.53 | Rodrigo | im playing debates today. If you guyz want to join, give me ur name and characters code |
| 05:06.57 | Sysmatix | Just like I morally raped this channel |
| 05:06.59 | ShadowTiger | its probably because your actor events are linked to level 1 only |
| 05:07.04 | Sysmatix | I watched your tutorials onetwo |
| 05:07.05 | Fromethius | nah |
| 05:07.10 | Sysmatix | They made me wet |
| 05:07.11 | Fromethius | they're all linked it seems |
| 05:07.12 | Sysmatix | alittle bit |
| 05:07.13 | volte | stealzorz |
| 05:07.14 | Fromethius | everything else works perfect |
| 05:07.16 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 05:07.23 | ShadowTiger | well then i dunno why they wouldn't work |
| 05:07.30 | Fromethius | well, i mean, it extends to the target |
| 05:07.37 | Fromethius | but the animation before that is bugged |
| 05:07.38 | Rodrigo | you can also add me on battle.net (US) |
| 05:07.41 | onetwo | haha |
| 05:07.41 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 05:07.43 | onetwo | thanks |
| 05:07.45 | Fromethius | when it goes from the infestor body to up in the air |
| 05:08.00 | Fromethius | just one part of the animation is not working properly |
| 05:08.01 | Sysmatix | The simple tower defense |
| 05:08.02 | Sysmatix | Hit the spot |
| 05:08.18 | Rodrigo | I have no classs tomorrow \o/ |
| 05:08.25 | ShadowTiger | my TD will hit the spot if you have a craving for sc2 crashes |
| 05:08.34 | Sysmatix | lol |
| 05:08.43 | }xx{ | lol |
| 05:08.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@2002:4406:65f3:0:21f:5bff:fecf:375) |
| 05:09.17 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:09.22 | Rodrigo | do you remember the REFRESH sotfware for Warcraft 3??? |
| 05:09.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Threepwood (18b9d4b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.185.212.185) |
| 05:09.35 | Threepwood | evening fellas. |
| 05:09.35 | }{ | ha |
| 05:09.36 | Rodrigo | they should do a Refresh popularity software for Starcraft 2 |
| 05:09.39 | onetwo | investment and RRSP |
| 05:09.53 | ShadowTiger | has changed his nick to { }{ } |
| 05:09.56 | Rodrigo | something that keeps creating your map |
| 05:09.57 | onetwo | guys |
| 05:10.01 | onetwo | pay me 100$ an hour |
| 05:10.03 | Rodrigo | during the whole night |
| 05:10.04 | onetwo | and ill have a team of people |
| 05:10.05 | onetwo | bump your map |
| 05:10.08 | onetwo | to number 1! |
| 05:10.12 | Rodrigo | LMAO |
| 05:10.15 | Threepwood | I just opened up my spacefight map, on which i laid out every unit for each race, and for some reason all the campaign dependant resources missing |
| 05:10.26 | ShadowTiger | i already came up with a great idea |
| 05:10.33 | Threepwood | I then checked to make sure it was still dependant on those resources, and they're still missing, and I can't place any units from the campaign at all |
| 05:10.39 | Threepwood | can someone tell me what the hell happened? |
| 05:10.41 | Rodrigo | hey, Im really worried about someone breaking the crypt of my ranking |
| 05:10.47 | ShadowTiger | we just need 1000 gues passes and we can bump all of our maps up in one night |
| 05:10.48 | {} | can't find a unregistered name |
| 05:10.49 | Rodrigo | its very possible to open private maps |
| 05:10.53 | Rodrigo | very easy |
| 05:11.14 | Rodrigo | its very easy to steal a private map |
| 05:11.21 | Rodrigo | :( |
| 05:11.24 | SageX | how? |
| 05:11.31 | Threepwood | nobody knows what happened to me huh. |
| 05:11.31 | Rodrigo | they are inside your pc when you download |
| 05:11.37 | Rodrigo | you just have to find and rename it |
| 05:11.54 | Rodrigo | and you can open with the galaxy script |
| 05:11.55 | SageX | >>best software protection ever |
| 05:12.01 | Rodrigo | copy the code and paste in a new map |
| 05:12.11 | Rodrigo | that's it |
| 05:12.14 | Rodrigo | you stole a map |
| 05:12.15 | Motive | Or you can just open a Battle.net map |
| 05:12.17 | SageX | wow sweet |
| 05:12.18 | Motive | and skip the whole file finding part entirely |
| 05:12.19 | Motive | Lol |
| 05:12.34 | AsaPhelps | can you publish campaign maps? |
| 05:12.38 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 05:12.46 | Sysmatix | Can I steal the whole campaign? |
| 05:12.46 | Rodrigo | I think so |
| 05:12.47 | ShadowTiger | i dont see why not |
| 05:12.52 | Rodrigo | yeah |
| 05:12.53 | Rodrigo | you can |
| 05:12.53 | Sysmatix | and then republish it as my own |
| 05:12.57 | AsaPhelps | that protoss one might be fun for multiplayer |
| 05:13.00 | AsaPhelps | the final one |
| 05:13.14 | Rodrigo | publish the whole campaign and report as inappropriate content |
| 05:13.16 | Motive | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248416086 |
| 05:13.24 | ShadowTiger | how long do you think an XXX map will last on bnet? |
| 05:13.25 | SageX | I want to play the lava map from campaign in 1v1 |
| 05:13.25 | Sixen | I wsa going to publish Lsot Viking |
| 05:13.28 | Motive | Sometimes I wonder if it was even tested... |
| 05:13.33 | Threepwood | oy guys, my map got obliterated by something i don't understand, help would be appreciated |
| 05:13.39 | SageX | ZERG rush offf lava |
| 05:13.53 | Sixen | Motive, the guys that developed GE didnt' make the Mac versio |
| 05:13.56 | Sixen | a different team did :( |
| 05:13.58 | RedWraith | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/anti-walling-algorithm/files/1-anti-walling-algorithm/ |
| 05:13.59 | RedWraith | THERE |
| 05:14.01 | Motive | Well, that explains it. Haha |
| 05:14.01 | RedWraith | I POSTED IT |
| 05:14.05 | RedWraith | I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY FATAL |
| 05:14.08 | Motive | In any case, a bug report is needed. |
| 05:14.11 | RedWraith | inb4 prevented for not having a picture |
| 05:14.14 | Motive | I assume the different team is responsible for fixing it still. |
| 05:14.17 | SageX | lol |
| 05:14.27 | Sixen | Yar |
| 05:14.27 | SageX | Anti-Walling Algorithm |
| 05:14.27 | Motive | Why do we even need anti-walling algorithms? >< |
| 05:14.32 | Motive | There's one built in to SC2 |
| 05:14.32 | Motive | Lol |
| 05:14.33 | AsaPhelps | incase someone walls |
| 05:14.37 | ShadowTiger | I assume a diferent team is in charge of reading the complaints as well |
| 05:15.00 | ShadowTiger | waz it called oh motivational one |
| 05:15.06 | RedWraith | SageX, what of it? |
| 05:15.13 | SageX | yes |
| 05:15.13 | RedWraith | Somebody posted a crappy one |
| 05:15.16 | RedWraith | and vjeux newsed it |
| 05:15.26 | RedWraith | The guy didn't even share it with the world. |
| 05:15.31 | Threepwood | well, i guess you can't actually use stuff from the campaign |
| 05:15.32 | SageX | its only a matter of time before steps to bypass bnet 2.0 |
| 05:15.36 | SageX | happan |
| 05:15.37 | Motive | Sec I'll give you an awesome walling algo :P |
| 05:15.43 | ShadowTiger | yes you can threepwood |
| 05:15.44 | SageX | happen** |
| 05:15.44 | Threepwood | you can play around with it in the editor, but it doesn't save, and then it immunes the map to that dependency, fascinating. |
| 05:15.55 | SageX | sweet |
| 05:15.56 | Motive | Event: On Build |
| 05:16.09 | Motive | if( Points Connected By Pathing( spawn Point, destination point) == false ) { |
| 05:16.11 | Motive | WALLING OMG |
| 05:16.12 | Motive | } |
| 05:16.13 | Motive | done. |
| 05:16.13 | Threepwood | if you can shadow, and save the map and re-open it without the units vanishing, i'd love to know how. |
| 05:16.14 | Motive | xD |
| 05:16.20 | SageX | oh shit lol |
| 05:16.40 | SageX | hacks == true |
| 05:16.50 | ShadowTiger | the easies way is to base your map off one of the campaign maps |
| 05:17.01 | ShadowTiger | but i assume other ways work too |
| 05:17.18 | Threepwood | i already made a good chunk of my map, and had a sort of reference set up with all the units from the campaign |
| 05:17.25 | RedWraith | Hey Motiv |
| 05:17.27 | RedWraith | Motive* |
| 05:17.28 | Threepwood | then i saved it, closed it for the night, and opened it today |
| 05:17.32 | RedWraith | That's a terrible way |
| 05:17.33 | RedWraith | to do it |
| 05:17.34 | RedWraith | :[ |
| 05:17.34 | Threepwood | everything is fine except campaign dependant stuff |
| 05:17.37 | Motive | Why? |
| 05:17.38 | RedWraith | In theory anyway |
| 05:17.43 | Motive | You can order the structure to cancel once that happens |
| 05:17.46 | Threepwood | which is all gone, and re-setting the dependencies does nothing |
| 05:17.49 | RedWraith | Well, you'd have to check every wall separately. |
| 05:17.49 | SageX | have they patched epic yet |
| 05:17.54 | RedWraith | What if I have fifteen walls? |
| 05:17.58 | Motive | No, you wouldn't. |
| 05:18.00 | SageX | E.P.I.C |
| 05:18.07 | Motive | You only need two points: |
| 05:18.14 | Motive | a) The point the units spawn at (can be automated into your spawn system) |
| 05:18.14 | Motive | b |
| 05:18.16 | Sysmatix | Oh look maphacks for Sc2 |
| 05:18.23 | Motive | b) The destination they're going to be reaching |
| 05:18.25 | RedWraith | okay, then. What if units take up space? |
| 05:18.28 | RedWraith | :P |
| 05:18.37 | RedWraith | do they count for pathing? |
| 05:18.37 | sugoi | RodOfNOD: ....is it safe now? :) |
| 05:18.39 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 05:18.41 | Motive | You're using structures though |
| 05:18.47 | ShadowTiger | well you would need to call the trigger every second |
| 05:18.47 | RedWraith | Do units count for pathing? |
| 05:18.52 | RedWraith | Does it go around them or through them? |
| 05:18.53 | ShadowTiger | oh i see build event |
| 05:18.54 | RodOfNOD | is what safe? |
| 05:18.54 | Motive | Fairly sure they do |
| 05:18.55 | Motive | if not you can use |
| 05:18.57 | ShadowTiger | that worksssssssssss |
| 05:18.59 | Motive | Pathing Cost Between Points == -1 |
| 05:19.03 | Motive | that one definitely does units |
| 05:19.07 | RedWraith | well, either way |
| 05:19.09 | RedWraith | mine's cool |
| 05:19.12 | RedWraith | and has information |
| 05:19.13 | Motive | xD |
| 05:19.14 | RedWraith | that's useful |
| 05:19.15 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 05:19.18 | RedWraith | about how to code |
| 05:19.29 | ShadowTiger | my algorithm is nice because it allows you to block with units as well as buildings |
| 05:19.34 | sugoi | i was curious how 250mm in game has a req, but in the data looks like it doesn't |
| 05:19.43 | sugoi | on thor |
| 05:19.50 | volte | sighs and goes back to editor |
| 05:20.06 | Dogmai | if anyone was wondering, [soundlink] editor default sound - is the blank one |
| 05:20.10 | Threepwood | i was curious about how the campaign dependencies stopped functioning |
| 05:20.12 | Motive | afaik, all 3 algos do the same thing |
| 05:20.14 | ShadowTiger | sugoi just delte the requirement... |
| 05:20.21 | sugoi | ShadowTiger: it doesn't have one |
| 05:20.40 | sugoi | it has req that says ~350mm upgrade not done |
| 05:20.49 | sugoi | but that is to hide it when it upgrades |
| 05:20.59 | sugoi | i can't find anything that stops it before that |
| 05:21.21 | ShadowTiger | Requirement NameSourceRaceTech Type Use Strike CannonsLiberty.SC2ModProtossAbility |
| 05:21.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Corbo (~thecorbo@190.87.68.244) |
| 05:21.31 | ShadowTiger | looks suspicious |
| 05:21.42 | ShadowTiger | "use strike cannons" |
| 05:21.56 | sugoi | haha, i'm not sure where you pulled that from, i'll look again |
| 05:22.11 | ShadowTiger | i like how its a protoss requirement |
| 05:22.32 | ShadowTiger | apparently the protoss invented the thor and the terrans stole the design from them |
| 05:23.02 | ShadowTiger | then the protoss were all "oh noo you di'nt" and made the collossus as sort of a thor 2.0 |
| 05:23.30 | ShadowTiger | btw i have a mental block for spelling the colossus correctly |
| 05:23.41 | Threepwood | shadow, how do you save a map with campaign dependencies |
| 05:23.46 | Threepwood | i keep asking but apparently nobody knows. |
| 05:24.07 | ShadowTiger | so did you go to file-> dependencies |
| 05:24.35 | Threepwood | yes |
| 05:24.37 | Threepwood | they're all there |
| 05:24.45 | Threepwood | then i cleared the local file and redownloaded the bnet one, still nothing |
| 05:24.54 | Threepwood | then i deleted all the dependencies, re-added and redownloaded them all |
| 05:25.02 | Motive | Must be a Windows bug. |
| 05:25.03 | Threepwood | saved the map closed the editor re-opened, still no campaign units |
| 05:25.05 | Motive | Works fine on my Mac editor. |
| 05:25.16 | Motive | I just add a dependency and it works. |
| 05:25.19 | Threepwood | which is quite infuriating, as i already know i can use them |
| 05:25.21 | Motive | Be it campaign or otherwise. |
| 05:25.25 | Threepwood | and i already HAD the dependencies added in |
| 05:25.27 | Threepwood | and placed all the units |
| 05:25.29 | ShadowTiger | did you try re-arranging them? |
| 05:25.31 | Threepwood | and saved the map, many times |
| 05:25.33 | Threepwood | re-arranging what? |
| 05:25.39 | ShadowTiger | the dependencies |
| 05:26.07 | Threepwood | i just did |
| 05:26.09 | Threepwood | and it crashed. |
| 05:26.28 | SageX | is this all in Java? |
| 05:26.33 | ShadowTiger | well then, maybe that fixed the problem of not loading the campaign units |
| 05:26.35 | ShadowTiger | rofl |
| 05:26.53 | mahashiro | ok, gnight guys |
| 05:26.56 | SageX | I am confused |
| 05:26.56 | onetwo | night |
| 05:26.58 | onetwo | i win |
| 05:26.59 | onetwo | im the best |
| 05:27.00 | ShadowTiger | by marashino |
| 05:27.27 | RedWraith | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/anti-walling-algorithm/ |
| 05:27.28 | ShadowTiger | why are you the best? did you finally beat the campaign on casual difficulty? |
| 05:27.32 | RedWraith | Alright, now you guys can suck it. |
| 05:27.39 | RedWraith | It has a picture, a test map and a mod. |
| 05:28.16 | Threepwood | nope shadow |
| 05:28.26 | Threepwood | still broken, still says the dependencies are there, it even activates them now |
| 05:28.27 | onetwo | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/anti-walling-algorithm/ i dont understand |
| 05:28.28 | onetwo | what is this |
| 05:28.31 | onetwo | where can i DL |
| 05:28.33 | Threepwood | but there are still no campaign units there, and i still can't create them. |
| 05:28.37 | ShadowTiger | that was a joke |
| 05:28.38 | onetwo | wa |
| 05:28.43 | Threepwood | yeah really |
| 05:28.44 | ShadowTiger | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/tig_ol_bitties/ you suck it |
| 05:28.49 | RedWraith | This project is awaiting approval. |
| 05:28.50 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 05:28.58 | volte | I remember when WC3 came out... the editor was pretty good, but then when WC3:TFT came out, the editor was amazing |
| 05:29.02 | sugoi | ShadowTiger: so - i see the req "use strike cannon", if i go directly to it. im dont know how you found it. also, when i go to the 250mm ability, i have such req, the only req i see is "hide250mmStrikeCannnon" - used for when the 330mm comes in to play |
| 05:29.05 | volte | I wonder if that is going to happen with SC2 :/ |
| 05:29.24 | ShadowTiger | thats because you are in the campaign |
| 05:29.30 | sugoi | s/i have such req/i have no such req/ |
| 05:29.36 | Threepwood | so i guess my map is completely destroyed and maps can't be saved with campaign units |
| 05:29.47 | Threepwood | good to know, guess i can stop using the editor until they make it useable. |
| 05:30.17 | ShadowTiger | yeah so delte use strike cannons : D |
| 05:31.24 | sugoi | i suddenly have so many questions. ... i'd be very happy to read something explaining what it means to have a camp-map vs melee-map ... is there a trigger on the camp map that adds this req? |
| 05:31.32 | ShadowTiger | *delete |
| 05:31.44 | sugoi | truly i want to learn, bare with me |
| 05:31.52 | Dogmai | Battle net hosts custom games right? Server load is on Bnet's servers? |
| 05:31.53 | Threepwood | bear* |
| 05:31.55 | sugoi | i have no req on the ability to delete |
| 05:31.58 | Threepwood | correct dog |
| 05:31.59 | sugoi | Threepwood: i was debating...i lost |
| 05:32.14 | *** join/#sc2mapster annoyed (4b198235@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.25.130.53) |
| 05:32.16 | Dogmai | huge loops here i come >:) |
| 05:32.25 | annoyed | is ShadowTiger |
| 05:32.29 | sugoi | dang |
| 05:32.55 | annoyed | huge loops =?= fruit loops |
| 05:32.57 | Motive | huge loops are bad still, fyi. :P |
| 05:33.02 | Motive | they run on the battle.net server, and the clients |
| 05:33.12 | annoyed | and the wow servers too |
| 05:33.13 | Dogmai | its not too big |
| 05:33.16 | Motive | and there is a timer, too, so if your loop takes too long, gg. |
| 05:33.27 | Dogmai | well |
| 05:33.32 | Dogmai | it is not really that |
| 05:33.42 | Dogmai | its more like every 0.1 seconds of the game it runs a shitload of loops |
| 05:33.46 | Dogmai | but they are not too bad |
| 05:33.48 | Motive | o-o |
| 05:33.50 | Motive | What are you trying to do? |
| 05:33.58 | Motive | There's almost always an easier way to do that stuff. |
| 05:33.59 | Dogmai | update the UI |
| 05:34.08 | Motive | Ah making your own UI? |
| 05:34.10 | Dogmai | yes |
| 05:34.14 | Dogmai | its nearly done :D |
| 05:34.16 | Motive | Yeah you're screwed. xD |
| 05:34.21 | annoyed | whats wrong with updating every 1 second |
| 05:34.24 | Dogmai | O_O |
| 05:34.26 | volte | lol |
| 05:34.31 | Dogmai | I was going to say, if its every 1 second |
| 05:34.34 | Dogmai | Its not fast enough |
| 05:34.42 | Motive | I'd do every 0.5 seconds, and see if it's advantageous to determine if the core unit has moved to update at all. |
| 05:34.43 | annoyed | what is your ui displaying |
| 05:34.59 | Dogmai | Life, Energy, Exp, Ability Cooldowns |
| 05:35.09 | Dogmai | Custom Ability buttons with custom cooldown graphics |
| 05:35.15 | Dogmai | that is what i am scripting at the moment |
| 05:35.21 | Dogmai | thats the need for 0.1 |
| 05:35.26 | annoyed | okay su update life energy exp when they change |
| 05:35.30 | annoyed | cooldowns 1/sec |
| 05:35.35 | annoyed | all other stuff 1/sec |
| 05:36.05 | Dogmai | I thought of that |
| 05:36.13 | annoyed | what do you have that is absolutley critical that needs to be monitored 10 times /second |
| 05:36.28 | onetwo | the fate of humanity |
| 05:36.29 | Dogmai | cooldowns |
| 05:36.37 | Dogmai | especially when they can be 1.5 secs etc |
| 05:36.44 | annoyed | cooldowns do not need to be updated more than 1 time / second |
| 05:36.52 | Motive | Ehh |
| 05:36.57 | annoyed | you can see that there is fractions, but you dont need to update more than once every second |
| 05:36.57 | Motive | You could do 0.2 seconds |
| 05:36.59 | Dogmai | it does with my cooldown graphics |
| 05:37.01 | Motive | or 0.5 |
| 05:37.05 | Dogmai | otherwise its not seemless |
| 05:37.09 | annoyed | you dont *need* cooldown graphics |
| 05:37.10 | Dogmai | it gets jaggered |
| 05:37.14 | Dogmai | well I do |
| 05:37.17 | Threepwood | who the hell needs cooldown graphics |
| 05:37.21 | Threepwood | who even looks at a cooldown |
| 05:37.24 | Motive | Me |
| 05:37.24 | Motive | xD |
| 05:37.25 | Threepwood | spam the button, spam it, then spam it some more |
| 05:37.26 | Dogmai | because blizzard doesnt let you put ability buttons into custom UI |
| 05:37.29 | Threepwood | if your cursor changes, the cooldown is done. |
| 05:37.30 | Dogmai | lawl |
| 05:37.33 | Threepwood | if it doesn't, its still cooling down |
| 05:37.37 | Threepwood | thats all you ever need |
| 05:37.42 | annoyed | so what you are saying is... that your map is title "cool down: the game" |
| 05:37.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105) |
| 05:37.43 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 05:37.49 | Threepwood | and fyi, i don't think anyone even glances at the bottom right side or clicks actions |
| 05:37.51 | onetwo | hey guys can anyone link me some cooldown graphics |
| 05:37.53 | Threepwood | or cares what they look like. |
| 05:37.54 | onetwo | i heard about this irc |
| 05:37.58 | onetwo | i need cooldown graphics badly |
| 05:38.06 | SageX | 2 512mb gfx cards = ability to turn the gfx up to 1024mb textures |
| 05:38.10 | SageX | hell yea |
| 05:38.23 | Threepwood | so fellas |
| 05:38.27 | Threepwood | GATHER AROUND ALL YE FAITHFUL |
| 05:38.29 | annoyed | sagex stop spreading lies |
| 05:38.30 | onetwo | no thx |
| 05:38.33 | Threepwood | FOR THREEPWOOD HAS A TALE TO TELL |
| 05:38.41 | SageX | turf I speakith |
| 05:38.47 | Threepwood | about how he almost went through map-maker hell |
| 05:38.50 | annoyed | turf needeth mowing |
| 05:38.55 | Rodrigo | hey |
| 05:38.55 | Threepwood | unfortunately the rest of it doesn't rhyme. |
| 05:38.57 | Zanam | terrain foliage... what is that represented as in the editor? I notice they arent selectable in the unit, terrain, or doodad layers |
| 05:39.05 | Rodrigo | DEBATES MATCH STARTING IN 15 minutes |
| 05:39.06 | SageX | turf not needith ye mower |
| 05:39.13 | Threepwood | in the event that you use custom maps and set campaign dependencies for your map |
| 05:39.17 | Rodrigo | if you want to join, add me: RODRIGO 881 |
| 05:39.23 | Dogmai | haha |
| 05:39.23 | Threepwood | and then place units, save the map, open it the next day and go where the fuck are all of my campaign based units |
| 05:39.23 | SageX | sweet |
| 05:39.27 | Dogmai | well its a fast paced game |
| 05:39.31 | Threepwood | fear not, for the problem has been solved. |
| 05:39.33 | Dogmai | critical decisions will win it |
| 05:39.38 | annoyed | terrain folliage is basically static art i believe |
| 05:39.43 | Threepwood | you have to go to preferences to set the general preference of saving favoring small files |
| 05:39.44 | annoyed | i forget can you burn/destroy folliage? |
| 05:39.54 | onetwo | yes |
| 05:40.01 | Threepwood | otherwise, it apparently ignores all of your campaign units, and prevents you from ever using them in the future, completely ruining everything else you did on that map and forcing you to start a new one. |
| 05:40.17 | Threepwood | it does, however, cause saving to take my incredibly fast computer approximately 40 frozen seconds. |
| 05:40.27 | Threepwood | but for using campaign units, that is a price i am willing to pay. |
| 05:40.37 | Threepwood | SO TAKE HEED, you have been warned. |
| 05:40.43 | annoyed | yeah the editor is alot slower since beta |
| 05:40.45 | sugoi | ? how is requirement "Use Strike Cannon" tied to ability "250mm Strike Cannons" i don't see a link |
| 05:40.50 | annoyed | and that doesnt apply to everyone... |
| 05:41.17 | Zanam | annoyed, static art you say? how do you remove it then, in what layer? i did the 'generate terrain foliage' in the editor just to see what it did and it looked nice at the time, but now i'm trying to undo it all and can't figure out a way to |
| 05:41.25 | ShadowTiger | requirements dont have links do they? |
| 05:41.29 | Zanam | brb |
| 05:41.42 | sugoi | no, i mean from the ability, i see no link to that requirement |
| 05:41.56 | ShadowTiger | i do |
| 05:42.01 | sugoi | really... |
| 05:42.06 | ShadowTiger | but you have to be in multiplayer dependencies |
| 05:42.11 | ShadowTiger | in the campaign its given by default |
| 05:42.14 | ShadowTiger | hence no requirement link |
| 05:43.04 | ShadowTiger | : / i feel like if i stick around this chat i get no work done on my maps |
| 05:45.04 | sugoi | although, i will be so happy when i understand what you're saying! :) i think you're saying that if i add the multiplayer dep when choosing the map (can be added after the fact i think), then i see the link. else (w/o the multiplayer dep) i am in 'camp mode'...and it is default |
| 05:45.31 | sugoi | if that is all correct.....that is to say that a 'camp' map has links that are not seen...perhaps many objects that are not seen but preloaded |
| 05:46.28 | Threepwood | well time to recreate what was lost |
| 05:46.41 | Threepwood | i'll be back sometime in the future. |
| 05:46.54 | Sysmatix | ); |
| 05:47.20 | onetwo | guys |
| 05:47.26 | onetwo | i think Sixen murdered the other admins |
| 05:47.31 | onetwo | for his own dominance |
| 05:47.33 | onetwo | over sc2mapster |
| 05:47.36 | onetwo | look at @ symbols |
| 05:47.37 | onetwo | only 1 person |
| 05:48.25 | onetwo | and me and Grum are next... |
| 05:48.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170) |
| 05:49.24 | Sixen | om nom nom |
| 05:49.46 | Lilianna | Youve awakened him, RUN AWAY! |
| 05:50.00 | onetwo | we need someone to be the gordon ramsey of our channel |
| 05:50.03 | onetwo | were all too nice |
| 05:50.47 | Dogmai | sixen, the game |
| 05:50.56 | Motive | HE'S GOING TO EAT US ALL. |
| 05:50.58 | Motive | Nom. |
| 05:51.30 | Corbo | hi |
| 05:53.56 | volte | somehow I managed to change the name of a unit in the Liberty.SC2Mod |
| 05:53.58 | volte | O.o |
| 05:54.15 | onetwo | *bans your map from sc2 permanently* |
| 05:54.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster Corbo (~thecorbo@190.87.68.244) |
| 05:54.25 | Corbo | hai gais |
| 05:54.25 | RAW-BERRY | lmao |
| 05:54.34 | Corbo | WHO WANTS TO ADD ME AS A FRIEND? |
| 05:54.56 | SageX | add me: SageX Code: 719 |
| 05:54.58 | onetwo | sure |
| 05:54.59 | onetwo | wait |
| 05:55.01 | onetwo | no + infront of your name |
| 05:55.02 | onetwo | no thx |
| 05:55.06 | RAW-BERRY | Does anyone know why exactly that map got banned? |
| 05:55.07 | onetwo | i only associate with + people |
| 05:55.10 | Corbo | :( |
| 05:55.11 | sugoi | ShadowTiger: ok, i've learned a couple things - i had been adding all for deps and moving the camp story to the top bc i read that is how to fix the icons. i now see that adding all 4 deps and not moving story up to the top fixes the icons still ... and leaves the ability->req link we were talking about. i'll not move that item up..hoping the icons work fine. my final concern (rhetorical) is that the camp has 'default' actions...i fe |
| 05:55.15 | Corbo | WELL |
| 05:55.17 | Corbo | TOO BAD |
| 05:55.24 | sugoi | and i'm done bugging you now :) |
| 05:55.27 | Corbo | CAUSE I DON'T WANNA BE FRIENDS WITH + |
| 05:55.50 | Corbo | I ONLY MAKE FRIENDS WITH @ |
| 05:55.52 | SageX | I am bad |
| 05:55.57 | SageX | add me: SageX Code: 719 |
| 05:55.57 | onetwo | young money baby |
| 05:56.02 | SageX | 1v1 |
| 05:56.03 | Corbo | how do I add? |
| 05:56.04 | Corbo | ;o |
| 05:56.09 | SageX | ;o |
| 05:56.12 | Corbo | let me figure out bnet |
| 05:56.21 | onetwo | wow |
| 05:56.21 | volte | onetwo did you make friends with me? |
| 05:56.26 | onetwo | i didnt know they let non + people play on bnet |
| 05:56.31 | sugoi | haha |
| 05:56.53 | onetwo | volte? wha? |
| 05:56.59 | volte | WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA? |
| 05:57.06 | Corbo | lol onetwo |
| 05:57.13 | volte | You have been disconnected from battle.net because another computer connected using your account |
| 05:57.17 | volte | I"VE BEEN HACKED! |
| 05:57.28 | Corbo | lol gg |
| 05:57.40 | SageX | nice password1 |
| 05:57.41 | onetwo | gg |
| 05:57.44 | onetwo | gg guys |
| 05:57.50 | SageX | sevensuns32 |
| 05:57.57 | Corbo | pass12345 |
| 05:58.06 | SageX | sevenbruns63 |
| 05:58.16 | volte | onetwo: I added you, cuz I stalked you down |
| 05:58.16 | Corbo | I think I added you |
| 05:58.21 | Corbo | but |
| 05:58.27 | Corbo | you haven't accepted |
| 05:58.28 | Corbo | QQ |
| 05:58.29 | SageX | lol worst pasword has to be password |
| 05:58.30 | onetwo | i have no friends |
| 05:58.31 | onetwo | on bnet |
| 05:58.52 | Corbo | psh onetwo |
| 05:58.55 | Corbo | who are you kidding |
| 05:58.59 | Corbo | you don't even have sc2 |
| 05:59.11 | onetwo | im actually a bot thats been slowly adapting to human ways |
| 05:59.15 | Corbo | yep |
| 05:59.15 | onetwo | irc is the first test |
| 05:59.16 | onetwo | oh no |
| 05:59.18 | onetwo | hes here |
| 05:59.19 | Corbo | VERY SLOWLY |
| 05:59.19 | SageX | add me: SageX Code: 719 |
| 05:59.29 | Corbo | cause you're an old bot |
| 05:59.29 | volte | has considered writing a bot for IRC many times |
| 05:59.35 | onetwo | adjutant |
| 05:59.45 | onetwo | lol one of my friends in high school had a bot for msn |
| 05:59.50 | onetwo | and several people were tricked |
| 05:59.51 | onetwo | that night |
| 05:59.57 | onetwo | ah good ole memories |
| 06:00.08 | onetwo | he came back to a bunch of convos |
| 06:00.10 | onetwo | his bot had had |
| 06:00.12 | onetwo | with people |
| 06:00.13 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:00.16 | Corbo | I'm still on placement matches |
| 06:00.19 | Corbo | isn't that sad? |
| 06:00.27 | volte | is there an easier way to duplicate a unit? |
| 06:00.28 | onetwo | i play campaign on casual |
| 06:00.31 | ShadowTiger | what are placement matches? : D |
| 06:00.33 | SageX | sad |
| 06:00.40 | volte | without makeing a crap load of ridiculous actors and shit? |
| 06:00.45 | SageX | somebody fucking add me |
| 06:00.46 | ShadowTiger | what do you mean easier way volte |
| 06:00.47 | onetwo | nope volte |
| 06:00.52 | Corbo | I added you |
| 06:00.53 | volte | fuuuuuudge |
| 06:00.53 | Corbo | D: |
| 06:00.57 | SageX | fuuu |
| 06:01.02 | ShadowTiger | uncheck the stuff you dont want to change |
| 06:01.07 | Corbo | hey onetwo |
| 06:01.08 | ShadowTiger | dont duplicate everything attached to the unit |
| 06:01.09 | Corbo | you |
| 06:01.09 | Corbo | me |
| 06:01.11 | Corbo | 1vs1 |
| 06:01.12 | Corbo | NOWW |
| 06:01.17 | onetwo | im sorry i cant go any further in this convo |
| 06:01.18 | SageX | 0 friend requests |
| 06:01.19 | volte | I wanna watch |
| 06:01.19 | onetwo | without linking |
| 06:01.19 | onetwo | this |
| 06:01.21 | onetwo | http://www.gm.ca/gm/english/vehicles/chevrolet/volt/feature-volt |
| 06:01.23 | onetwo | okay |
| 06:01.26 | onetwo | grudge match corbo |
| 06:01.31 | Corbo | GRUDGEEE |
| 06:01.32 | Fromethius | anyone ever find a solution to this? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/mapping-utilities/editor-bugs-and-feedback/965-bug/ |
| 06:01.36 | SageX | corbo pm me your info |
| 06:01.44 | Corbo | Corbo.919 |
| 06:01.45 | Corbo | wait |
| 06:01.55 | onetwo | corbo lets play later |
| 06:02.00 | onetwo | im waiting for a phone call from barack |
| 06:02.01 | onetwo | atm |
| 06:02.04 | Corbo | nvm you added me already |
| 06:02.05 | Corbo | PSH |
| 06:02.06 | Corbo | I SMELL |
| 06:02.08 | onetwo | do your game with him |
| 06:02.09 | Corbo | FEAAAR |
| 06:02.10 | SageX | unable to find friend |
| 06:02.11 | onetwo | for a couple mins |
| 06:02.14 | onetwo | ill let you know when ready |
| 06:02.16 | SageX | FUUU |
| 06:02.16 | Corbo | FEAAAAAAAAAAAAAR |
| 06:02.27 | volte | OBAMA? |
| 06:02.34 | Corbo | k |
| 06:02.40 | Corbo | going to go finish my placement matches |
| 06:02.48 | SageX | 2v2? |
| 06:03.02 | volte | should I duplicate Liberty or LibertyMulti? |
| 06:03.05 | SageX | has sc2 windowed for friends |
| 06:04.20 | volte | passes out |
| 06:04.50 | SageX | add me ppls |
| 06:04.57 | ShadowTiger | why would you dup a dependency? |
| 06:04.58 | SageX | add me: SageX Code: 719 |
| 06:06.28 | volte | ShadowTiger: I meant should I duplicate a unit from the Liberty or LibertyMulti mod |
| 06:06.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170) |
| 06:06.49 | ShadowTiger | well do you want the multi version of it? |
| 06:07.11 | ShadowTiger | i dunno why you are asking me -_- |
| 06:07.57 | volte | why does Ghost have it's own Hold Fire ability? |
| 06:08.11 | volte | ShadowTiger: idk what the difference is :P (Liberty vs Multi) |
| 06:08.42 | ShadowTiger | i dunno about "liberty" but i would assume liberty is single player, multi is multiplayer |
| 06:09.12 | volte | yes |
| 06:09.55 | onetwo | wow cool |
| 06:09.59 | onetwo | new tv show on canadian tv |
| 06:10.04 | onetwo | following cops of my city |
| 06:10.05 | onetwo | vancouver |
| 06:10.07 | onetwo | in drug area |
| 06:10.19 | onetwo | of which i drive through almost every day |
| 06:10.31 | volte | onetwo: which should I duplicate a unit from? and what is the difference? |
| 06:10.40 | onetwo | multi |
| 06:10.50 | onetwo | i think? |
| 06:11.43 | volte | lol... |
| 06:11.51 | Dogmai | For REAL numbers, is there a way to round them to 1 decimal place |
| 06:12.14 | volte | somehow I managed to "duplicate" the ghost way back when I started this map, and it didn't come with all kinds of crazy extra stuff |
| 06:12.21 | onetwo | do a conversion |
| 06:12.31 | onetwo | or if you want proper rounding |
| 06:12.33 | onetwo | do an if statement |
| 06:12.53 | Dogmai | conversion to integer? |
| 06:12.55 | onetwo | wait nvm that |
| 06:12.56 | onetwo | yeah |
| 06:13.00 | onetwo | do conversion to integer |
| 06:13.01 | Dogmai | integers dont have decimal places |
| 06:13.09 | Dogmai | you could theoritcally though |
| 06:13.25 | Dogmai | Real * 10 convertinteger convert real/10 |
| 06:13.27 | onetwo | oh |
| 06:13.28 | Dogmai | that should work |
| 06:13.30 | Dogmai | let me test it |
| 06:13.31 | onetwo | you mean 1 decimal place |
| 06:13.32 | onetwo | hmm |
| 06:13.44 | onetwo | i read 0 for some reason |
| 06:13.46 | sugoi | k, learned something new, tell me if i'm wrong: it seems that if an ability cost is "life" and your hp == cost, you cannot cast it - i've tested this to make sure there wasn't some hidden setting i couldn't find |
| 06:13.57 | onetwo | ? |
| 06:13.59 | Dogmai | onetwo, are you US |
| 06:14.01 | onetwo | look at stimpack |
| 06:14.01 | onetwo | yes |
| 06:14.30 | Dogmai | alright, if I get my map finished before I have access to the US server I will get you a SEA account you can borrow if you want |
| 06:14.46 | onetwo | get access to US :D |
| 06:14.52 | Dogmai | up to blizz |
| 06:14.53 | Dogmai | :P |
| 06:15.29 | LordAbyss | so i just saw the contest |
| 06:15.33 | LordAbyss | lol... |
| 06:16.21 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:16.49 | LordAbyss | im soo uploading my map right now |
| 06:16.52 | LordAbyss | lawlsauce |
| 06:17.24 | Nesetalis | grr where exactly is the unit collision method in the editor? |
| 06:17.34 | Nesetalis | ive got something with no collision, so they just stack up on a single spot |
| 06:17.47 | onetwo | movemet |
| 06:17.48 | onetwo | movement |
| 06:17.50 | onetwo | -radius |
| 06:17.53 | onetwo | and seperation radius |
| 06:18.00 | onetwo | and choose collision with ground in movement fields too |
| 06:19.06 | Nesetalis | there we go |
| 06:19.07 | Nesetalis | thanks |
| 06:20.44 | Dogmai | bah fuck it |
| 06:20.48 | Dogmai | it still wont work |
| 06:20.53 | Dogmai | the value comes back as 1.0005 |
| 06:21.06 | Dogmai | i think the best way is to just work with integers |
| 06:21.15 | Dogmai | 10 = 1 |
| 06:21.28 | LordAbyss | hey onetwo |
| 06:21.34 | LordAbyss | remember my initial cinematic for my map |
| 06:21.39 | LordAbyss | endless loopftw |
| 06:22.03 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:22.05 | Nesetalis | float hell, Dogmai? :p |
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| 06:25.06 | sugoi | say i have a multiplayer map, two people, have do i set a triggle that says 'if current player...' |
| 06:25.24 | sugoi | as if to say "if _you_ do this, you see" [eg] |
| 06:25.59 | Mindful | so, is there any way to detect if a player has left/when a player leaves the game? "Player Leaves Game" doesn't want to work for me |
| 06:25.59 | sugoi | perhaps i'm over complicating this... |
| 06:26.05 | onetwo | Mindful |
| 06:26.10 | onetwo | player leaves game only detects victory |
| 06:26.13 | onetwo | defeat |
| 06:26.13 | onetwo | and tie |
| 06:26.14 | onetwo | not disconnect |
| 06:26.15 | onetwo | or quit |
| 06:26.16 | Mindful | that's what i thought |
| 06:26.21 | Mindful | any way i can detect quit? |
| 06:26.26 | onetwo | youll need to make a boolean variable |
| 06:26.31 | onetwo | like size 16 |
| 06:26.35 | onetwo | array |
| 06:26.39 | onetwo | and run a periodic trigger |
| 06:26.49 | onetwo | checks for each player |
| 06:26.52 | onetwo | if status == left the game |
| 06:26.55 | Mindful | kk |
| 06:26.55 | onetwo | set that variable to true |
| 06:26.57 | onetwo | and do w/e |
| 06:27.06 | onetwo | and if its true already, dont keep going |
| 06:27.09 | onetwo | since player already left |
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| 06:28.21 | Rodrigo | STARTING DEBATES MATCH |
| 06:28.24 | Rodrigo | ADD ME |
| 06:28.33 | Rodrigo | STARTING IN 5 MIN |
| 06:28.35 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
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| 06:34.55 | Corbo | this sucks |
| 06:35.04 | Corbo | I got into bronzee |
| 06:35.27 | sugoi | can someone dif: "For Each Unit In Unit Group" vs "Pick Each Unit In Unit Group" ? |
| 06:36.02 | sugoi | and...i'm really just looking for "player.AllUnits()[0]" bc my player will only have one unit :) |
| 06:36.06 | sugoi | suggestions? |
| 06:36.17 | LordAbyss | muahaha i published my endless looping cinematic |
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| 06:37.29 | onetwo | k Corbo |
| 06:37.33 | onetwo | time for our grudge match |
| 06:37.58 | LordAbyss | hmm |
| 06:38.03 | LordAbyss | constructing header file |
| 06:38.04 | LordAbyss | error |
| 06:38.45 | onetwo | Corbo |
| 06:38.46 | onetwo | ? |
| 06:40.53 | onetwo | Corbo.919 does not exist |
| 06:42.05 | onetwo | Corbo |
| 06:42.08 | onetwo | come on |
| 06:42.10 | onetwo | where are you now |
| 06:42.30 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/anti-walling-algorithm/. Anti-Walling Algorithm. RedWraithSC (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 06:42.34 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/rhino-apc/. Rhino APC. AlexO6 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 06:43.24 | Sevenation | grudge match? |
| 06:43.51 | onetwo | [23:01] <Corbo> hey onetwo [23:01] <ShadowTiger> dont duplicate everything attached to the unit [23:01] <Corbo> you [23:01] <Corbo> me [23:01] <Corbo> 1vs1 [23:01] <Corbo> NOWW |
| 06:44.00 | onetwo | i accepted |
| 06:44.01 | Sevenation | LOL |
| 06:44.02 | onetwo | but now hes missing |
| 06:44.04 | Sevenation | I want to spectate! |
| 06:44.08 | onetwo | yah :D |
| 06:44.11 | onetwo | if he wasnt be a scared bum |
| 06:44.14 | Sevenation | Sevenation 105 |
| 06:44.18 | onetwo | k |
| 06:44.20 | Sevenation | plz |
| 06:44.23 | Sevenation | lol |
| 06:44.29 | onetwo | added |
| 06:45.00 | Sevenation | I didn't get anything |
| 06:45.27 | onetwo | its one way |
| 06:45.35 | LordAbyss | how do you view how many times your map was played |
| 06:45.40 | onetwo | you cant |
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| 06:45.42 | onetwo | right? |
| 06:46.07 | onetwo | man the dam character codes |
| 06:46.08 | Sevenation | uh |
| 06:46.12 | Sevenation | iunno |
| 06:46.15 | Sevenation | What's yours? |
| 06:46.21 | Aussie123 | hey ppl, my custom zerglings are coming up as mushrooms in game how do i fix this?\ |
| 06:46.22 | onetwo | i PMed you |
| 06:46.36 | onetwo | Actor for your custom zerglings 'art - model' field |
| 06:46.46 | Aussie123 | onetwo? i was just watching ur vids :p\ |
| 06:47.13 | onetwo | :D |
| 06:47.29 | Mindful | youi know |
| 06:47.32 | Mindful | every time i have some huge problem |
| 06:47.32 | onetwo | Does anyone know Corbo's code? |
| 06:47.35 | Mindful | and i ask you onetwo |
| 06:47.38 | Mindful | you solve it in like 0.2 seconds |
| 06:47.44 | Mindful | it's kind of embaressing |
| 06:47.45 | Aussie123 | dont mind the \ at the end of my messages i spilt water on my keyboard :P\ |
| 06:47.52 | onetwo | lol cause ive gone through every problem |
| 06:47.53 | Aussie123 | enter key is broken\ |
| 06:47.54 | onetwo | with my rpg |
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| 06:49.10 | onetwo | man what a lie |
| 06:49.15 | onetwo | Sixen said i could change game speed to faster |
| 06:49.16 | onetwo | in options |
| 06:49.17 | onetwo | for campaign |
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| 06:49.20 | onetwo | i see no option |
| 06:49.21 | onetwo | for it |
| 06:49.21 | onetwo | ! |
| 06:49.23 | Sixen | you can nub |
| 06:49.32 | Sixen | Menu > Options > Gameplay options |
| 06:49.33 | onetwo | where!!! |
| 06:49.35 | onetwo | k |
| 06:49.37 | Sixen | I changed it =O |
| 06:49.40 | Sevenation | lol I found that in the first 2 seconds |
| 06:49.42 | Sevenation | :P |
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| 06:49.56 | Sevenation | Campaign was defaulted to slow :| |
| 06:50.01 | Sevenation | or something |
| 06:50.01 | onetwo | where is this option |
| 06:50.06 | onetwo | i know mine is way too slow |
| 06:50.07 | onetwo | for me |
| 06:50.09 | LordAbyss | hey onetwo, i wanna play with or against you |
| 06:50.09 | LordAbyss | haha |
| 06:50.13 | onetwo | what does the option look like |
| 06:50.18 | onetwo | one sec i have to grudge match corbo |
| 06:50.21 | LordAbyss | kk |
| 06:50.22 | Sevenation | It looks pretty |
| 06:50.24 | onetwo | its like a fifty cent vs kanye thing |
| 06:50.56 | Aussie123 | where is "art - model" i am looking in advanced tables but only energy life and shield starting amount comes up when i search for art\ |
| 06:51.37 | onetwo | in the units actor |
| 06:51.39 | onetwo | Zergling unit |
| 06:51.43 | onetwo | has a Zergling actor in actors tab |
| 06:51.50 | onetwo | when you duplicated zergling |
| 06:51.55 | onetwo | it should have made an actor |
| 06:51.57 | onetwo | copy |
| 06:52.00 | onetwo | which you should have renamed |
| 06:52.11 | onetwo | Sixen |
| 06:52.12 | onetwo | http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6475/optionsd.jpg |
| 06:52.14 | onetwo | my options screen |
| 06:52.15 | onetwo | where is it |
| 06:52.23 | Aussie123 | zergling copy?\ |
| 06:52.29 | Sixen | eh? |
| 06:52.31 | onetwo | sure aussie |
| 06:52.33 | onetwo | thatll be it |
| 06:52.52 | Sixen | are you doing a challnege or campaign? |
| 06:52.57 | onetwo | im in bnet options |
| 06:53.01 | onetwo | campaign |
| 06:53.30 | Sevenation | um |
| 06:53.36 | Sevenation | I think you need to be in the campaign |
| 06:53.39 | Sevenation | in a mission |
| 06:53.40 | onetwo | ? |
| 06:53.41 | onetwo | really? |
| 06:53.45 | Sevenation | yarly! |
| 06:53.48 | onetwo | oh man |
| 06:53.49 | onetwo | . |
| 06:53.56 | onetwo | man |
| 06:53.59 | onetwo | where the hell is corbo |
| 06:54.01 | onetwo | Corbo ! |
| 06:54.07 | LordAbyss | so how are we suppose to provide a screenshot of our map play count if we can't find it |
| 06:54.21 | onetwo | itll have to be on popularity |
| 06:54.22 | onetwo | lordabyss |
| 06:54.43 | Corbo | I'm here |
| 06:54.47 | onetwo | FINALLY |
| 06:54.50 | onetwo | grudge match |
| 06:54.51 | onetwo | we got specs |
| 06:54.54 | Sevenation | haha |
| 06:54.59 | Corbo | GRUDGEEE |
| 06:55.03 | onetwo | whats your id? |
| 06:55.04 | Aussie123 | mmm it shows a big mushroom thing in the model it has\ |
| 06:55.05 | Corbo | I was playing starship troopers |
| 06:55.06 | onetwo | Corbo.919 |
| 06:55.07 | onetwo | doesnt work |
| 06:55.12 | Corbo | hold on |
| 06:55.21 | Sevenation | maybe it's 191 |
| 06:55.23 | Sevenation | or 991 |
| 06:55.24 | Sevenation | 119 |
| 06:55.27 | Corbo | 909 |
| 06:55.30 | Sevenation | ah |
| 06:55.31 | Sevenation | 909 |
| 06:55.37 | onetwo | ah |
| 06:55.42 | Aussie123 | FieldZergling Copy 2 |
| 06:55.42 | Aussie123 | ModelAssets\Units\Zerg\Zergling2\Zergling2.m3 |
| 06:55.42 | Aussie123 | \ |
| 06:56.00 | onetwo | anyone else want to watch grudge match between me and corbo |
| 06:56.03 | onetwo | egos will clash |
| 06:56.04 | onetwo | on US |
| 06:56.12 | onetwo | aussie theres your errror bud |
| 06:56.14 | onetwo | :D |
| 06:56.35 | Aussie123 | so what do i do lol?\ |
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| 06:57.06 | onetwo | change that fied |
| 06:57.07 | onetwo | field |
| 06:57.08 | onetwo | to be zergling |
| 06:57.10 | onetwo | not zergling2 |
| 06:57.29 | onetwo | k |
| 06:57.33 | onetwo | going into grudge match now |
| 06:57.34 | onetwo | brb |
| 06:57.41 | Aussie123 | think it fixed it\ |
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| 07:00.10 | Sixen | rrowland! let's go |
| 07:02.44 | Aussie123 | what kind of triggers would i need if i wanted to make a zergling respawn as an ultralisk once its been killed? and make units invulnerable while in "Region 001" or w/e it is\ |
| 07:03.23 | Aussie123 | any tutorials on those kinds of triggers anywhere?\ |
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| 07:04.14 | Aussie123 | anyone?\ |
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| 07:06.28 | Mindful | you probably want a basic trigger tutorial |
| 07:06.36 | Mindful | SC2Mapster had a post listing tutorials a while back, you should check that |
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| 07:10.34 | Rodrigo | starting another DEBATES MATCH |
| 07:10.40 | Rodrigo | if you want to join us, ADD ME |
| 07:10.42 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 07:27.59 | sugoi | can someone dif: "For Each Unit In Unit Group" vs "Pick Each Unit In Unit Group" ? |
| 07:29.28 | onetwo | pick each unit in unit group can reference each unit |
| 07:29.30 | onetwo | using "picked unit" |
| 07:29.34 | onetwo | inside the loop |
| 07:29.46 | onetwo | not sure whats the point of for each |
| 07:29.48 | onetwo | lol ekcolnovkol |
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| 07:29.54 | onetwo | DOTA in category and map descrip |
| 07:29.55 | onetwo | = page 1 |
| 07:31.10 | Sixen | lol |
| 07:31.11 | Sixen | it's true |
| 07:31.21 | Nesetalis | hum, are structures limited to 1 per grid? or can you build them on top of each other. if you push the radius? |
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| 07:33.17 | volte | man... Units, Actors... Models... |
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| 07:33.44 | volte | fhqwhgads!!! |
| 07:33.57 | Aussie123 | whats the opposite of invulernable in the trigger editor?\ |
| 07:34.11 | AxlYin | question for the masses, I'm painting my friends little brothers room in SCII and I'm trying to make stencils for spraypainting the logos you can pick from in battle.net to apply to your units, is there any way I can get to those files? |
| 07:34.17 | sugoi | is there a way to keep the windows up when starting testing a map? |
| 07:34.33 | sugoi | windows,modules, i.e.: triggers/data/editor...etc |
| 07:35.07 | AxlYin | onetwo |
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| 07:36.41 | Aussie123 | omg LOL i really asked that question wow im stupid :p\ |
| 07:37.32 | Aussie123 | i should have to go back to school for that\ |
| 07:37.50 | Aussie123 | "whats the opposite of invulernable?"\ |
| 07:38.10 | sugoi | Aussie123: noninvulnerable |
| 07:38.23 | Aussie123 | no :p vulnerable is the opposite\ |
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| 07:40.28 | volte | I kinda wish I could just sitdown with a blizzard map maker so I can ask all kinds of dumb questions at them |
| 07:41.49 | Aussie123 | after watching that basic trigger tutorial video things dont seem so hard now\ |
| 07:42.04 | Aussie123 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0KFo_S3C-8 this 1\ |
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| 07:42.55 | Aussie123 | anyone know how to fix enter keys typing \ at the end of every thing i type?\ |
| 07:43.01 | rrowland | http://news.yahoo.com/video/odd-15749658/cruel-joke-pilot-fakes-fainting-spell-21135715 |
| 07:44.14 | volte | Aussie123: triggers aren't the hard part |
| 07:44.44 | Aussie123 | whats the hard part then?\ |
| 07:45.02 | volte | Managing/Making units etc |
| 07:45.13 | volte | and items and abilities etc etc |
| 07:45.22 | Aussie123 | i found that quite easy :p\ |
| 07:45.37 | volte | hrrmph |
| 07:45.53 | Aussie123 | tho i only made 2 units lol\ |
| 07:45.58 | volte | heh |
| 07:46.04 | volte | Imanaged to make one unit just fine... |
| 07:46.13 | volte | my second unit is completely botched idk what is going on |
| 07:46.21 | volte | watches onetwo tutorials again |
| 07:46.21 | Aussie123 | mushroom model?\ |
| 07:46.25 | volte | ya |
| 07:46.31 | volte | blackblob? |
| 07:46.43 | Aussie123 | i just had that problem onetwo told me the fix\ |
| 07:46.53 | volte | leans in eagerly |
| 07:47.01 | Aussie123 | well not a blackblob it was a round ball looked like a mushroom \ |
| 07:47.12 | volte | shrugs |
| 07:47.45 | Aussie123 | "<onetwo> Actor for your custom zerglings 'art - model' field"\ |
| 07:49.22 | Aussie123 | if ur custom unit doesnt have a proper model set it will look like a round ball in game and not show up at all in the editor\ |
| 07:50.16 | monoframe | Well some things are only previewable in the game itself |
| 07:50.27 | monoframe | Especially when talking about chains effects |
| 07:50.56 | monoframe | and the ball signifies a "missing link" or an "error" |
| 07:51.13 | monoframe | it's a placeholder so you would know what's exactly wrong |
| 07:51.21 | monoframe | WC3 had a cube |
| 07:52.25 | Aussie123 | oh and can u map makers please upload your great maps to SEA we have no good maps here only Nexus wars\ |
| 07:52.44 | Motive | LOL |
| 07:52.48 | Motive | That's one way to lock a map... |
| 07:52.56 | Motive | publishing as "Locked" on Mac Editors results in the editor crashing |
| 07:52.57 | Motive | Nice. |
| 07:54.27 | sugoi | Aussie123: what's your irc client? |
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| 07:55.05 | Pierrot | Hi all |
| 07:55.43 | monoframe | What's "SEA"? k: |
| 07:56.10 | sugoi | for multiplayer...does everyone share variables? |
| 07:56.20 | sugoi | would i have to have an array of vars for each player?! |
| 07:56.32 | sugoi | yikes...i think so |
| 07:59.08 | Pierrot | monoframe :SEA south east Asia ? |
| 07:59.19 | monoframe | OH SNAPS! |
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| 08:03.22 | Aussie123 | sugoi i use Xchat\ |
| 08:05.27 | sugoi | can i turn picked player into an index? |
| 08:05.49 | sugoi | Aussie123: don't know why you're getting \'s ... i used xchat ages ago (pre 2.0), didn't do it then |
| 08:06.10 | Aussie123 | no no its the keyboard itself it does it on all computers :P\ |
| 08:06.30 | Aussie123 | i take it water isn't healthy for keyboards\ |
| 08:08.43 | sugoi | heh...i think 'picked player' IS an index |
| 08:08.45 | sugoi | funny |
| 08:09.31 | onetwo | back |
| 08:09.31 | Sevenation | Hello friends |
| 08:09.31 | LordAbyss | ouch |
| 08:09.31 | onetwo | lol LordAbyss |
| 08:09.31 | onetwo | your marine come back owned me |
| 08:09.31 | onetwo | all like 40 phoenixes |
| 08:09.31 | onetwo | gone |
| 08:09.31 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:09.31 | LordAbyss | i don't care how good you are |
| 08:09.31 | Sevenation | I'd like to inform you that I beat Onetwo, Tyrannical, and Corbo in a 3v1 match |
| 08:09.31 | LordAbyss | when you get unlucky with 3 people targting you |
| 08:09.32 | Sevenation | Anything they say is a lie. |
| 08:09.34 | Sevenation | I won. |
| 08:09.38 | LordAbyss | you can't win |
| 08:09.39 | onetwo | haha yeah i won cause no one targeted me |
| 08:09.40 | LordAbyss | seven |
| 08:09.42 | LordAbyss | lolol |
| 08:09.42 | Sevenation | brb debates :D |
| 08:09.48 | onetwo | but your marine strat was pretty good |
| 08:09.55 | onetwo | its good against all our air |
| 08:10.01 | LordAbyss | yea next time |
| 08:10.02 | onetwo | cause on a huge map |
| 08:10.03 | LordAbyss | 100 marines |
| 08:10.04 | onetwo | ground force is too slow |
| 08:10.07 | LordAbyss | fully maxed out |
| 08:10.13 | onetwo | i think thats honestly he best way to go |
| 08:10.13 | Sevenation | I would've wtfpwnt if it weren't for those fucking phoenixes |
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| 08:10.15 | onetwo | fast moving |
| 08:10.17 | onetwo | upgraded marines |
| 08:10.18 | Sevenation | Broodlords |
| 08:10.21 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 08:10.21 | Sevenation | and mutas |
| 08:10.23 | Sevenation | and corrupters |
| 08:10.25 | Sevenation | FFS |
| 08:10.26 | LordAbyss | marines > mutas |
| 08:10.27 | onetwo | cause you Fed my void rays |
| 08:10.28 | onetwo | i was like crap |
| 08:10.32 | Sevenation | I had broodlords |
| 08:10.35 | onetwo | i need phoenixes |
| 08:10.37 | Sevenation | broodlords > marines x1000 |
| 08:10.45 | LordAbyss | shhh |
| 08:10.57 | Sevenation | I believe my game froze. |
| 08:10.58 | onetwo | but big maps need mobility |
| 08:11.01 | onetwo | kind of makes phoenix OP |
| 08:11.02 | Sevenation | Dammit. |
| 08:11.11 | onetwo | fastest unit |
| 08:11.19 | LordAbyss | i wanna 1v1 onetwo sometime |
| 08:11.19 | LordAbyss | haha |
| 08:11.27 | Sevenation | onetwo |
| 08:11.32 | Sevenation | Why didn't you let me own you? :( |
| 08:11.35 | Corbo | you guys sux |
| 08:11.35 | Corbo | QQ |
| 08:11.42 | Sevenation | lol you lost first :P |
| 08:11.44 | Sevenation | QQ |
| 08:11.44 | LordAbyss | you liked my 20 dt warp in |
| 08:11.54 | Sevenation | LOL |
| 08:11.55 | Corbo | That's because you teamed |
| 08:11.56 | Sevenation | that was funny |
| 08:11.59 | Corbo | I SWEAR YOU GUYS TEAMED |
| 08:12.02 | onetwo | yeah rememberfirst game |
| 08:12.06 | onetwo | i lost so bad |
| 08:12.10 | Sevenation | I OWNED YOU :D |
| 08:12.11 | onetwo | i wasnt going to let it happen again |
| 08:12.15 | onetwo | so i built 2 gateways this time |
| 08:12.15 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:12.21 | Sevenation | I'm so proud |
| 08:12.23 | onetwo | lordabyss we'll have a grudge match soon |
| 08:12.24 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:12.24 | Sevenation | I suck at regular games |
| 08:12.25 | Sevenation | like |
| 08:12.26 | Sevenation | suck suck |
| 08:12.45 | Sevenation | I forgot to set my rallies i nthe first game |
| 08:12.52 | onetwo | FFA always sounds super fun in theory |
| 08:12.55 | onetwo | until you realize |
| 08:12.56 | onetwo | youre fucked |
| 08:12.58 | onetwo | from all angles |
| 08:13.00 | Sevenation | LOL |
| 08:13.01 | onetwo | like britney spears |
| 08:13.08 | onetwo | thx guys |
| 08:13.15 | Corbo | lol |
| 08:13.29 | Corbo | I should've turtled |
| 08:13.47 | LordAbyss | i shouldn't have expanded 3 times |
| 08:13.49 | LordAbyss | that early |
| 08:14.00 | Sevenation | LA = tyrannical right? |
| 08:14.04 | LordAbyss | yea |
| 08:14.06 | Sevenation | lol k |
| 08:14.15 | LordAbyss | you and your stupid mutas |
| 08:14.17 | Sevenation | I think I could have won |
| 08:14.26 | Sevenation | After you destroyed my main army |
| 08:14.27 | Sevenation | I got lazy |
| 08:14.32 | Sevenation | Didn't expand or build drones |
| 08:14.39 | LordAbyss | after i lost my main base |
| 08:14.40 | Sevenation | just massed some lings and expected to lose LOL |
| 08:14.41 | Clord | played 4 player FFA during beta and in one of matches |
| 08:14.44 | LordAbyss | i took 4 bases |
| 08:14.44 | Clord | I turtled and |
| 08:14.48 | Clord | went to carrier + mothership spam |
| 08:14.49 | Clord | ^^ |
| 08:14.52 | Sevenation | haha |
| 08:14.55 | Corbo | of course you could've won |
| 08:14.58 | Clord | but my last enemy to take down... got mass roaches |
| 08:15.00 | sugoi | looking for 'show trigger debug window' ... when running |
| 08:15.02 | sugoi | hints? |
| 08:15.05 | Corbo | you kept attacking people while they had nothing in bases |
| 08:15.20 | Clord | or was it hydras |
| 08:15.28 | onetwo | my strat for the last game was mass expand |
| 08:15.29 | Clord | I don't think roaches was able to ever attack air in official beta balance |
| 08:15.32 | onetwo | cause no one checked |
| 08:15.34 | onetwo | all these random spawns |
| 08:15.40 | LordAbyss | i checked |
| 08:15.44 | LordAbyss | since my scv was on follow |
| 08:15.44 | sugoi | ah, file->prefs |
| 08:15.45 | LordAbyss | :) |
| 08:15.50 | LordAbyss | or attacking yours |
| 08:15.50 | onetwo | oh |
| 08:15.52 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:15.55 | LordAbyss | but followed it the whole time |
| 08:16.02 | Clord | it is good idea to assume that enemy is not so stupid that expand closest place of their base unless it is covered well ;) |
| 08:16.21 | LordAbyss | my first expand was one of the bottem left bases |
| 08:16.49 | onetwo | haha yours was out of distress |
| 08:16.50 | onetwo | wasnt it |
| 08:16.55 | LordAbyss | not my first one |
| 08:16.59 | onetwo | i had the bottom right area |
| 08:17.00 | LordAbyss | after i lost my main base and second expand |
| 08:17.05 | onetwo | and then one base just west of your expansion |
| 08:17.07 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:17.08 | LordAbyss | i just went crazy on bot left |
| 08:17.11 | sugoi | k i need some debug help -: i'm thinking i'll just push text to the screen |
| 08:17.18 | sugoi | what's the action for that? |
| 08:17.18 | onetwo | thats what i do |
| 08:17.19 | onetwo | sugio |
| 08:17.23 | onetwo | ui - text message |
| 08:17.25 | sugoi | thanks |
| 08:17.37 | onetwo | imagine if we did 8 person FFA |
| 08:17.38 | onetwo | on that map |
| 08:17.40 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:17.40 | Corbo | THE POINT IS |
| 08:17.42 | Corbo | THAT |
| 08:17.44 | Corbo | YOU PEOPLE SUX |
| 08:17.47 | Corbo | NOW I GO QQ TO BED |
| 08:17.49 | Corbo | QQ |
| 08:17.53 | LordAbyss | lol |
| 08:17.53 | onetwo | FFA |
| 08:17.56 | onetwo | is purely random |
| 08:18.00 | LordAbyss | yea |
| 08:18.04 | LordAbyss | i got screwed that time |
| 08:18.08 | onetwo | yep |
| 08:18.10 | onetwo | lol |
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| 08:18.17 | onetwo | im still pretty in shock of your marine comeback though |
| 08:18.19 | onetwo | i was like meh |
| 08:18.20 | onetwo | hes done for |
| 08:18.22 | onetwo | ill leave him |
| 08:18.23 | LordAbyss | i probably had higher income rate then everyone until i lost my main base |
| 08:18.24 | onetwo | i come back home |
| 08:18.24 | Sevenation | oh my god |
| 08:18.24 | onetwo | see |
| 08:18.26 | onetwo | 50000 marines |
| 08:18.28 | LordAbyss | 90 |
| 08:18.32 | Sevenation | we need to do an 8 person FFA |
| 08:18.32 | LordAbyss | i had like 4k |
| 08:18.51 | LordAbyss | just build like 5 barracks with reactors |
| 08:18.54 | Sevenation | Was I the first to attack you? |
| 08:18.56 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:18.57 | LordAbyss | yes |
| 08:18.58 | LordAbyss | sev |
| 08:19.02 | Sevenation | Owned. :) |
| 08:19.03 | LordAbyss | then someone else or soemthing |
| 08:19.14 | LordAbyss | then corbo hit my new base with carriers |
| 08:19.14 | Sevenation | lol |
| 08:19.16 | Sevenation | LOL |
| 08:19.17 | onetwo | hey so |
| 08:19.19 | onetwo | when you die |
| 08:19.22 | onetwo | you become a spectator? |
| 08:19.24 | LordAbyss | nope |
| 08:19.27 | onetwo | ? |
| 08:19.29 | LordAbyss | it sucks |
| 08:19.29 | Sevenation | I think you just die |
| 08:19.33 | sugoi | onetwo: i want to display "Picked Player", not sure how to do that. perhaps {Picked Player}... |
| 08:19.34 | LordAbyss | you go to score screne |
| 08:19.41 | onetwo | ui text message |
| 08:19.44 | LordAbyss | sugoi |
| 08:19.44 | onetwo | make the message be |
| 08:19.46 | onetwo | conversion |
| 08:19.48 | LordAbyss | do a combine |
| 08:19.48 | onetwo | convert int to string |
| 08:19.51 | LordAbyss | then convert in to string |
| 08:19.52 | onetwo | then pick that |
| 08:19.58 | sugoi | ah, makes sense |
| 08:19.59 | onetwo | cause i left the first FFA |
| 08:20.02 | LordAbyss | make surey ou do combine |
| 08:20.05 | onetwo | i didnt know i could watch |
| 08:20.10 | LordAbyss | so you can add other stuff infront or behind |
| 08:20.14 | sugoi | thanks :) |
| 08:20.19 | LordAbyss | you can't watch it sucks |
| 08:20.25 | LordAbyss | wonder why blizzard didn't add that |
| 08:20.25 | onetwo | :( |
| 08:20.30 | LordAbyss | they did it for wc3 |
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| 08:20.36 | onetwo | ah |
| 08:20.51 | Sevenation | Onetwo, are you a mod? |
| 08:20.57 | onetwo | not really |
| 08:21.06 | Sevenation | What's the a little bit part? |
| 08:21.16 | onetwo | i turned it down cause not much more pay for a lot more work |
| 08:21.17 | onetwo | jk lol |
| 08:21.25 | Sevenation | lol |
| 08:21.37 | onetwo | the little what? |
| 08:21.55 | sugoi | LordAbyss: combine multiple? having trouble seeing how to list |
| 08:22.04 | LordAbyss | i haven't figured that one |
| 08:22.06 | onetwo | not multiple |
| 08:22.07 | sugoi | i kinda expected a comma seperated list |
| 08:22.07 | LordAbyss | i just used combine |
| 08:22.13 | sugoi | k |
| 08:22.15 | LordAbyss | then do another comine in one of the things |
| 08:22.21 | LordAbyss | its a bit clustered |
| 08:22.25 | sugoi | i see |
| 08:22.26 | LordAbyss | but once you understand it |
| 08:22.28 | LordAbyss | it comes together |
| 08:22.32 | sugoi | does multiple suck or sth? |
| 08:22.41 | onetwo | dont know how to use it |
| 08:22.42 | onetwo | tbh |
| 08:22.44 | LordAbyss | same |
| 08:22.46 | sugoi | heh |
| 08:22.48 | sugoi | ok, not just me |
| 08:22.49 | sugoi | thanks :) |
| 08:24.16 | sugoi | aaahhhhh |
| 08:24.19 | sugoi | there are 16 players |
| 08:24.29 | sugoi | duh! |
| 08:24.34 | Sevenation | doy |
| 08:24.42 | sugoi | for some reason i've been thinking 12 .. multi max? |
| 08:24.45 | LordAbyss | gonna go to sc2 now |
| 08:24.55 | LordAbyss | query me if you have any more questions that i could answer |
| 08:24.56 | sugoi | but there are 16 players .. to the editor |
| 08:25.01 | sugoi | k thanks :D |
| 08:25.03 | Sevenation | test |
| 08:25.06 | Sevenation | huh. |
| 08:25.07 | Sevenation | weird |
| 08:25.36 | sugoi | methinks there should be an engine constant for that |
| 08:25.51 | onetwo | 0 is neutral |
| 08:25.54 | onetwo | 15 is hostile |
| 08:25.57 | onetwo | 1-14 is your grounds |
| 08:25.59 | onetwo | to play |
| 08:26.05 | Aussie123 | is there a Stun ability in sc2?\ |
| 08:26.33 | Sevenation | Anyone want to be my battlecraft partner? :D |
| 08:27.02 | Aussie123 | charged zealots are OP\ |
| 08:27.07 | Aussie123 | in that\ |
| 08:28.10 | Clord | marine,zealot and zergling... they have common thing that they are fillers for army |
| 08:28.14 | Clord | so you don't overproduce minerals |
| 08:28.14 | Clord | XD |
| 08:28.18 | Sevenation | :( |
| 08:28.25 | Nesetalis | -starts bashing face against keyboard- i made the building so very tiny, that i can place them overlapping... 3 of them work, but once i get to the fourth, it requires to be atleast 1 spaces away D: |
| 08:28.33 | LordAbyss | ill do it seven |
| 08:28.46 | Aussie123 | is there a stun ability in sc2?\ |
| 08:28.48 | Aussie123 | like in wc3\ |
| 08:29.02 | Nesetalis | its easy to make one aussie |
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| 08:29.05 | Dogmai | you can make it |
| 08:29.14 | Dogmai | issue target with "stop" |
| 08:29.23 | Sixen | rrowland, you here? |
| 08:29.36 | Aussie123 | so there are no already made stuns.. thats silly\ |
| 08:29.48 | Nesetalis | :p |
| 08:29.56 | Sixen | there are, Aussie123. |
| 08:29.56 | Nesetalis | why is that silly? |
| 08:30.00 | Sixen | It's in the campaign |
| 08:30.02 | sugoi | i want to define an action that can be called by multiple triggers. i have a defined action, my two triggers, but i can't find my action in the list when i try to add the action |
| 08:30.08 | Sixen | Specter's have it, I forgot what it was called. |
| 08:30.10 | sugoi | what am i assuming? |
| 08:30.11 | Aussie123 | wats it called in the editor then?\ |
| 08:30.37 | Sixen | Not sure. It's a Specter ability, go check |
| 08:30.38 | Sixen | :P |
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| 08:31.52 | Dogmai | sixen, do you make maps? |
| 08:31.56 | Sixen | Of course~ |
| 08:31.59 | sugoi | oh sheesh...it was there |
| 08:32.01 | Sixen | I just haven't released anything :) |
| 08:32.01 | sugoi | i just can't spell |
| 08:32.01 | Dogmai | what type? |
| 08:32.04 | Dogmai | haha |
| 08:32.08 | Sixen | Depends, really. |
| 08:32.10 | Dogmai | you are a true map maker then |
| 08:32.12 | Sixen | I used to make bounds a lot in SC1. |
| 08:32.13 | Sixen | haha |
| 08:32.23 | Dogmai | Did you ever make maps in wc3? |
| 08:32.28 | Aussie123 | someone make pictionary!\ |
| 08:32.29 | Sixen | Nah, I never got into War3 mapping. |
| 08:32.40 | Sixen | I played War3 a lot... But I stuck with SC1 mapping. |
| 08:32.49 | Aussie123 | pictionary was the bomb in wc3\ |
| 08:32.55 | Sixen | I had more fun trying to figure out awesome things with a limited toolset |
| 08:32.56 | Sixen | :) |
| 08:33.01 | Dogmai | lol |
| 08:33.05 | Dogmai | And I thought wc3 was limited :P |
| 08:33.11 | Sixen | pfft, |
| 08:33.19 | Sixen | I used to make War2 maps, that thing didn't even have anmy triggers :P |
| 08:33.20 | Dogmai | I never played starcraft I |
| 08:33.25 | Dogmai | lynch me |
| 08:33.28 | Sixen | lol |
| 08:33.48 | Dogmai | I played Dark Reign |
| 08:33.53 | Sixen | =o |
| 08:33.57 | Dogmai | Then Wc3 and now Starcraft II |
| 08:34.04 | Dogmai | for my RTSes |
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| 08:35.44 | Dogmai | So what projects are you working on atm mate? |
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| 08:36.03 | Sixen | Secrets, :) |
| 08:36.22 | Sixen | Well, I was going to publish a melee map within the week. |
| 08:36.37 | Aussie123 | god damn thers so many threads on "stun" but they are all on the old battle net forums\ |
| 08:36.41 | Sixen | I noticed there aren't any really, so i figured I can get to the top of the popularity there easily |
| 08:36.47 | sugoi | any one know how to use the if else if? |
| 08:36.51 | Sixen | Aussie, check the Specter ability, :(. |
| 08:36.56 | Aussie123 | wats that\ |
| 08:37.03 | Aussie123 | in abilities?\ |
| 08:37.06 | Sixen | should be, yeah |
| 08:37.13 | Sixen | or go to the Specter unit and see what's linked to it |
| 08:37.23 | Sixen | sugoi: If <this happens> {do something}, else if {do something}, else {do this} |
| 08:37.23 | sugoi | Aussie123: might be easier to go to units specter, then find the ability in its list |
| 08:37.33 | sugoi | Sixen: well yes... |
| 08:37.39 | Sixen | heh |
| 08:37.45 | sugoi | what i mean is..the UI is not cooperating |
| 08:37.50 | sugoi | Sixen: but thanks :) |
| 08:37.54 | Sixen | Oh :P |
| 08:38.05 | sugoi | chuckles about elementary logic statements |
| 08:38.14 | onetwo | ill play your melee map |
| 08:38.15 | onetwo | when its out |
| 08:38.17 | Sixen | <3 |
| 08:38.17 | onetwo | on bluray |
| 08:38.21 | Sixen | orly |
| 08:38.23 | Sixen | and dvd? |
| 08:38.23 | onetwo | jk |
| 08:38.24 | onetwo | jk guys |
| 08:38.33 | onetwo | but i hear your production values are amazing sixen |
| 08:38.43 | Sixen | They are. One map every 10 years.. |
| 08:38.46 | Sixen | I work like Blizzard. |
| 08:38.59 | Sevenation | Or James Cameron |
| 08:39.03 | Aussie123 | are those Soccer/Basket/Tennisball models real? as in are they really soccerballs..\ |
| 08:39.13 | Sevenation | What else would they be? |
| 08:39.13 | Aussie123 | in game\ |
| 08:39.23 | Aussie123 | didnt want to get my hopes up :p\ |
| 08:39.27 | Sevenation | lol |
| 08:39.43 | Aussie123 | someone has to make a soccer mod or basketball mod now\ |
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| 08:39.59 | Sixen | Yeah, heh |
| 08:40.04 | Sixen | There's all the fruits to Pac man too |
| 08:40.30 | Aussie123 | or dodge the soccer ball! with a cannon shooting out lots of soccer balls\ |
| 08:40.47 | Aussie123 | as in dodgeball\ |
| 08:40.53 | Sixen | brb. |
| 08:41.43 | Aussie123 | ive got all these great ideas for maps pity i am so crap at it :(\ |
| 08:42.18 | Sevenation | omg |
| 08:42.27 | Sevenation | I'm going to make another dodgeball arena :O |
| 08:42.43 | Aussie123 | like the wc3 ones?\ |
| 08:42.51 | Sevenation | actually I'm bored of the idea already lol |
| 08:42.52 | monoframe | Aussie, so team up with other map makers :P |
| 08:43.06 | monoframe | Or just present those ideas in forums |
| 08:43.13 | monoframe | share with them |
| 08:43.37 | monoframe | And whoever likes them will probably try to recreate those |
| 08:43.38 | Aussie123 | i would like to TRY and make them my self if that fails i could do that i guess \ |
| 08:44.15 | Aussie123 | i already attempted a TD from onetwo's channel like months ago 1 bug made me quit :p\ |
| 08:44.45 | Aussie123 | i couldn't fix it then i forgot about it then i formatted my computer\ |
| 08:44.48 | Dogmai | YES OMFG YES |
| 08:45.11 | Dogmai | cooldown is now working |
| 08:45.13 | Dogmai | muhahaha :D |
| 08:45.58 | onetwo | im actually a bit ashamed |
| 08:46.00 | onetwo | of our popular maps |
| 08:46.03 | onetwo | considering all the cool models |
| 08:46.05 | onetwo | and data editor |
| 08:46.06 | onetwo | and so on |
| 08:46.15 | Dogmai | onetwo, you cant expect something amazing so soon |
| 08:46.16 | Dogmai | give it time |
| 08:46.18 | Dogmai | seriously |
| 08:46.21 | onetwo | nope |
| 08:46.22 | onetwo | i can |
| 08:46.29 | onetwo | i spent months working on my rpg |
| 08:46.31 | onetwo | a simple soccer game |
| 08:46.36 | onetwo | should be out by now |
| 08:46.37 | onetwo | :D |
| 08:46.40 | Dogmai | lol |
| 08:46.48 | Dogmai | just remember, most people didn't get beta |
| 08:46.55 | Dogmai | I didn't, so I am months behind you guys |
| 08:46.56 | onetwo | is that true? |
| 08:46.58 | onetwo | it felt like everyone had it |
| 08:47.57 | Dogmai | nah |
| 08:48.01 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:48.03 | Motive | Blah |
| 08:48.10 | monoframe | Because the chat was usually flowing with more than 80 people at a time during beta <.< |
| 08:48.12 | Dogmai | I probably didn't get it because my comp is under minimum specs |
| 08:48.16 | Dogmai | But it plays just fine |
| 08:48.17 | Motive | There a way to "Lock Camera Mouse Relative Mode On" without actually hiding the mouse? |
| 08:48.22 | Motive | I'd like an FPS-style camera with click movement. |
| 08:48.25 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 08:48.27 | Fisker | i will stop you |
| 08:48.35 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:49.44 | Nesetalis | grr.. does anyone know a way to make it so you can build buildings on top of each other, yet units cant pass through them? |
| 08:50.46 | monoframe | As in, flying units can't fly "over" them? |
| 08:50.48 | monoframe | or wha |
| 08:50.53 | Nesetalis | cant walk over them |
| 08:50.57 | sugoi | HOLY CRAP i'm liking this editor.... |
| 08:51.06 | sugoi | plans to take the next 2 weeks off work... |
| 08:51.08 | monoframe | Make sure you have the "bottom" building non-passable |
| 08:51.15 | Nesetalis | ? |
| 08:51.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster Silver (ad33fe91@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.51.254.145) |
| 08:51.29 | monoframe | Ground units use ground pathing |
| 08:51.31 | Nesetalis | i can make them not walk over.. thats the easy part :p |
| 08:51.37 | monoframe | ground pathing can be obstructed |
| 08:51.39 | monoframe | by buildings |
| 08:51.40 | monoframe | SEE |
| 08:51.43 | Nesetalis | the problem is making it so i can build them on top of each other.. yet cant walk over |
| 08:52.00 | Silver | I have a map that I want to publish as Melee. How do i prevent it from being just custom when i publish it? |
| 08:52.04 | Nesetalis | or atleast close enough to line up |
| 08:52.18 | monoframe | So you want to "unite" those separate "floors"? |
| 08:52.30 | monoframe | Into one, as in an expansion? |
| 08:52.43 | Nesetalis | when i build in game... it does weird things. some times i cant build for 2 building lengths or more. |
| 08:52.50 | Nesetalis | yet i can walk between them |
| 08:53.01 | Nesetalis | other times the edges of the buildings are touching |
| 08:53.12 | monoframe | I don't understand D: |
| 08:53.18 | Nesetalis | :p |
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| 08:53.28 | Nesetalis | im essentially making a drawbridge/wall :p |
| 08:53.33 | Nesetalis | using supply depos |
| 08:53.39 | monoframe | Could you fetch us up with some screenshots? S: |
| 08:53.39 | Aussie123 | oh wow theres sheeps in this, sheep tag ftw!\ |
| 08:53.40 | Nesetalis | each one about 0.15 scale |
| 08:53.42 | Clord | I have tons map ideas but no slots to upload them on |
| 08:53.43 | monoframe | I can't really imagine |
| 08:53.44 | Clord | lol |
| 08:53.53 | Nesetalis | i tried, but all screenshots came out black D: |
| 08:53.56 | Silver | Anyone? |
| 08:53.56 | Aussie123 | someone go make sheep tag\ |
| 08:54.09 | Aussie123 | someone go make Volcano run!\ |
| 08:54.11 | Clord | five slot limit |
| 08:54.12 | monoframe | :| |
| 08:54.15 | Clord | so no more maps for while |
| 08:54.16 | Clord | XD |
| 08:54.21 | monoframe | You tried making screenshots in windowed mode? |
| 08:54.26 | Nesetalis | aye |
| 08:54.49 | monoframe | How many CPU cores are you running for sc2? |
| 08:54.51 | Aussie123 | u guys remember that volcano run map in starcraft? where u gotta escape before the zerglings / lava gets u?\ |
| 08:55.13 | Nesetalis | sc2 is taking up 60% of my cpu, so just over 2 cores |
| 08:55.18 | Nesetalis | er scratch that |
| 08:55.23 | Nesetalis | 19% XD |
| 08:55.34 | Nesetalis | read 60 threads and thought cpu % |
| 08:55.35 | monoframe | wait, you sit on a duo-core? or a quady :3? |
| 08:55.39 | Nesetalis | quad |
| 08:55.47 | Silver | Can someone help me out? The map's im publishing aren't showing up as melee, just custom but the editor says the map type is melee and all requirements are met. |
| 08:55.49 | monoframe | Try disabling first two cores |
| 08:55.55 | monoframe | and then do some screenshots |
| 08:55.57 | Aussie123 | sc2 is using 528,000 memory usage is that normal?\ |
| 08:55.58 | Nesetalis | ... |
| 08:56.02 | monoframe | :D |
| 08:56.09 | Nesetalis | you really dont know anything about computers do you. |
| 08:56.12 | Nesetalis | -facepalms- |
| 08:56.19 | monoframe | no, really, it can help |
| 08:56.24 | monoframe | there was such a problem with tf2 |
| 08:56.32 | monoframe | when screenshots would come out black |
| 08:56.40 | Nesetalis | black screenshots are a driver issue |
| 08:56.50 | monoframe | so the only way to fix it was to disable core support to a one-core S: |
| 08:56.57 | Dashkal | Silver: Look under Map -> Map Status and it iwll tell you why you're stuck in custom |
| 08:57.19 | Nesetalis | anyway.. imagine really tiny supply depos.. a knee high wall. |
| 08:57.47 | Silver | Well i am doing that and its saying " map type: melee" followed by " All melee requirements have been met. |
| 08:57.51 | Nesetalis | 3 will line up nicely.. then suddenly, the 'you cant build here' radius, pushes me out 2 whole spaces away from my wall. |
| 08:58.09 | Aussie123 | btw Spector isn't in the editor, or its not showing up for me\ |
| 08:58.11 | Nesetalis | so what i want.. is a unit that can overlap with itself.. but blocks other units. |
| 08:58.38 | Dashkal | Is there a set number of qualifiers you have to do before you get placed in a league? |
| 08:59.13 | Silver | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:59.38 | Dashkal | Silver: Sadly, that's all I knew on the subject :( |
| 08:59.44 | Dashkal | I play mostly with very very custom maps. |
| 08:59.49 | Dashkal | mmm, particle weapons |
| 09:00.12 | Silver | Have you up'd anything that is called custom,melee on bnet? |
| 09:00.31 | Dashkal | No. I haven't publushed anything yet. Still doing tests and prototypes. |
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| 09:00.59 | Aussie123 | how are we supposed to test Player 2 / 3 /4 /5 so on.. without publishing?\ |
| 09:01.01 | Silver | Ah. My play testers are having a tiffy over having to drag people into the proper slots. |
| 09:01.51 | Silver | Aussie123, for melee stuff i've just been hitting restart to make sure my points work if thats what u mean. |
| 09:02.03 | Aussie123 | for custom maps\ |
| 09:02.11 | Aussie123 | like abilities\ |
| 09:03.29 | Dashkal | If they can be tested one at a time, rotate which player is user controlled. |
| 09:03.35 | Silver | Set the other points to neutral for the sake of testing? |
| 09:04.46 | Dashkal | If you need to test with multiple players at the same time, I believe you have to publish at that point. Be sure to append "- Test 1" and the like I guess... |
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| 09:09.56 | Aussie123 | oh good idea\ |
| 09:10.53 | Fisker | i will end you Sixen |
| 09:11.02 | Nesetalis | got a screen shot :O http://i.imgur.com/8HPeI.png |
| 09:11.26 | Sevenation | anyone make tron yet? |
| 09:11.58 | rrowland | I will begin you |
| 09:13.30 | Sevenation | ~seen onetwo |
| 09:13.31 | purl | onetwo <ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 24m 56s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 09:13.39 | Sevenation | Wise last words. |
| 09:13.48 | monoframe | finally |
| 09:13.58 | monoframe | ok, now begin explaining :P |
| 09:14.13 | rrowland | ~seen rrowland |
| 09:14.14 | purl | rrowland is currently on #sc2mapster (5h 47m 7s). Has said a total of 54 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen rrowland'. |
| 09:14.14 | Nesetalis | note the gap between the depos? |
| 09:14.18 | Nesetalis | i cant build in those gaps |
| 09:14.19 | monoframe | yesh |
| 09:14.24 | Nesetalis | i need a solution |
| 09:14.45 | monoframe | What unit using are you building? |
| 09:14.56 | Nesetalis | my unique marine. |
| 09:14.56 | monoframe | I mean |
| 09:15.03 | sugoi | can i convert triggering player to picked player? |
| 09:15.04 | monoframe | The one selected, right? |
| 09:15.07 | Nesetalis | yes |
| 09:15.18 | sugoi | howhow??! :) |
| 09:15.27 | monoframe | The pathing comes off as red in between the depos? |
| 09:15.34 | Nesetalis | yep |
| 09:15.38 | Nesetalis | yet i can walk through them |
| 09:15.40 | Nesetalis | er between them |
| 09:15.55 | monoframe | Well, units have their own pathing space |
| 09:16.06 | monoframe | so lets say, thor needs more space to pass than a zergling |
| 09:16.24 | Nesetalis | :p |
| 09:16.29 | Nesetalis | i know this |
| 09:16.39 | monoframe | You did not alter depo in data editor in any way? |
| 09:16.41 | Nesetalis | the depo's radius is 0.125 |
| 09:16.48 | Nesetalis | >.> |
| 09:16.50 | Nesetalis | yes i did. |
| 09:16.51 | Nesetalis | alot |
| 09:17.15 | monoframe | And you need to fill those "gaps" with additional depos, right? to make a full wall? |
| 09:17.16 | Nesetalis | the marines are half size, the depo is half the size of the marine :p |
| 09:17.20 | Nesetalis | yep |
| 09:17.57 | monoframe | You didn't try placing depos in a straight row? not by filling the "gaps"? |
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| 09:18.09 | Nesetalis | that was placing them in a straight row |
| 09:18.17 | monoframe | S: |
| 09:18.20 | Nesetalis | :p |
| 09:18.29 | RinArenna | Hello, everyone! |
| 09:18.40 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:18.43 | Nesetalis | anyway, what i need, is some method to make a depo buildable on top other depos.. but still not walkable. |
| 09:19.29 | monoframe | first you need to address the "additional floor" issue, walkability is a no-issue for now |
| 09:19.46 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/marine-tug-o-war/. Marine Tug-O-War. IgnusVanMule (Manager/Author). Approved by grum. |
| 09:19.51 | monoframe | so the additional floors are just a graphical change, or do they actually have some function? |
| 09:20.15 | Nesetalis | additional floors? |
| 09:20.24 | monoframe | depos built on top of each other <.< |
| 09:20.31 | Nesetalis | oh |
| 09:20.38 | Nesetalis | its just to keep the gaps between them |
| 09:20.39 | Nesetalis | :p |
| 09:20.43 | Nesetalis | and to make the wall look tidy |
| 09:20.48 | Nesetalis | not actually bu ilt on top, but end to end |
| 09:20.56 | Helral | sugoi: why would you want to convert triggering player to picked player? |
| 09:21.15 | monoframe | wait, so to build a "top" depo you need two "lower" depos? |
| 09:21.16 | monoframe | or what |
| 09:21.17 | monoframe | s: |
| 09:21.31 | Nesetalis | ... |
| 09:21.33 | monoframe | :P |
| 09:21.39 | Nesetalis | im simply making a wall. |
| 09:21.44 | Nesetalis | and i want the wall to be seamless :p |
| 09:21.52 | RinArenna | I'm attempting to make an installation map, are there still doors? Because, I've been wracking my mind trying to find doors. |
| 09:22.01 | monoframe | SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS FIRSTHAND ARGH- D: |
| 09:22.06 | Helral | Nesetalis: you'll need to play around with the footprint if you ask me. |
| 09:22.22 | Nesetalis | im using no footprint right now.. |
| 09:23.01 | Helral | then they can already be palced next to eachother if the player does it carefully, right? |
| 09:23.09 | Nesetalis | no |
| 09:23.20 | Nesetalis | there is a weird issue with the lack of footprint or something |
| 09:23.28 | Nesetalis | it like.. accumulates, the more depos next to each other, the larger it is.. at odd angles. |
| 09:23.30 | sugoi | Helral: because i had an action that assumed a picked player, and i'd like to reuse it via a trigger |
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| 09:23.35 | Helral | well it uses the unit radius then. |
| 09:23.56 | Nesetalis | aye, but im more concerned about how the depos place and look. |
| 09:24.02 | Helral | sugoi: those that action expect a player number? |
| 09:24.16 | Helral | sugoi: does* |
| 09:24.18 | sugoi | so now i have question: anyone know how to invoke a method? can i do that from an action. i was expecting to find an action close to "Invoke Functin" |
| 09:24.32 | Aussie123 | my map im making is Bullrush, 1 ultralisk that chases the zerglings trying to stop them getting to the other side. he has abilites like Stim pack / speed boost, 2 second cloak, will have other abilities if i can think of any good 1s. the lings will have Stim pack and cloak as well. plus others if i can think of any good 1s. once u die u turn into an ultralisk u now have to kill the other lings. there will be a leaderboard with points for who cames fi |
| 09:24.32 | Aussie123 | rst to last, 3 matches whoever has the most points after that wins. good idea? yey? ney?\ |
| 09:25.02 | sugoi | Helral: yeah, so now i made it a function, param int; per my last question, trying to figure out how to invoke said method from an action/trigger |
| 09:25.05 | Helral | sugoi: functions have return variables, so if you use set variable X = function Y. actions have no return value. so you can pick these from the list. |
| 09:25.52 | Helral | sugoi: Triggering Player is a player number, just like picked player. |
| 09:26.16 | sugoi | oh, actions can also take params..funny how func+action are the same in galaxy as in .net |
| 09:26.19 | sugoi | heh |
| 09:26.23 | sugoi | crazy i never thought of that |
| 09:26.27 | Helral | XD |
| 09:26.39 | Helral | the difference is the usage, that's it. |
| 09:26.44 | Aussie123 | i dont think its wise to tell everyone your idea is it\ |
| 09:27.39 | Helral | Nesetalis: playerplaced stuff won't look good unless you use footprints. |
| 09:27.55 | Helral | Nesetalis: you'll need to restrict the player somehow so that it will always look good. |
| 09:27.59 | Nesetalis | -nods- |
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| 09:28.12 | Nesetalis | there wernt any default footprints that worked, im trying to make one now that works. |
| 09:28.18 | Helral | XD |
| 09:28.27 | Helral | as I said play around with the footprints. |
| 09:28.58 | Saeris1 | man |
| 09:29.05 | Saeris1 | it's sure hard recording a video of my map |
| 09:29.10 | Saeris1 | when i get stomped every time |
| 09:29.30 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 09:29.35 | Fisker | you not /wave at us |
| 09:29.36 | monoframe | You could make a scripted cinematic Saeris |
| 09:29.39 | monoframe | then edit it |
| 09:29.52 | monoframe | and fit it under 1 minute to spectacularly present it :P |
| 09:30.37 | Saeris1 | meh |
| 09:30.40 | monoframe | Just look at blizzard, most surely they use rendered cinematics in their trailers, even though those they hardly speak of the game itself |
| 09:30.44 | Saeris1 | that's more work than i'd like to put in to it |
| 09:30.46 | monoframe | but they work indeed |
| 09:30.52 | Helral | Saeris you should see the recordings of my maps. I just simply start recording, and add the texts later in youtube XD |
| 09:31.19 | Saeris1 | naw, i'm not even recording myself, i'm just getting gameplay footage |
| 09:31.25 | Saeris1 | but it sucks when i lose early on |
| 09:31.29 | Helral | lol |
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| 09:31.37 | Helral | then you can't record further you mean? |
| 09:31.48 | Saeris1 | yea |
| 09:31.50 | Helral | you can always record the replays you want XD |
| 09:31.54 | Saeris1 | i'll get better luck |
| 09:32.01 | RinArenna | Hey, Helral. Doors still exist, right? |
| 09:32.10 | Helral | in my map? yeah. |
| 09:32.19 | Helral | but they're still walkthrough walls. |
| 09:32.26 | RinArenna | I uh... Can't seem to find them... |
| 09:32.29 | RinArenna | Oh. |
| 09:32.39 | Helral | I'll finally have some time to alter them in a few days. |
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| 09:32.51 | RinArenna | Well, what I mean is... |
| 09:33.00 | Aussie123 | can u resize regions without deleting them re doing them?\ |
| 09:33.19 | RinArenna | Do doors still exist for Installation maps, because I can't find anything that even looks like a door. |
| 09:33.33 | Helral | think it's in the Doodads list. |
| 09:33.40 | Saeris1 | i might just have to record one tomorrow, my player base has dropped a lot since i got pushed down a page |
| 09:33.41 | Helral | thought I saw some there... |
| 09:33.52 | Saeris1 | went overnight from 3000+ players an hour to less than 1000 |
| 09:33.57 | Saeris1 | just by going down one page |
| 09:34.17 | RinArenna | Well, I found something called "Metal Gate Straight", but it doesn't seem to do anything. |
| 09:34.47 | RinArenna | There's no object at all when attempting to place it. |
| 09:35.10 | Helral | did you try checking if it becomes available with other dependencies? |
| 09:35.28 | RinArenna | ...Say wa? |
| 09:35.38 | Saeris1 | i hope they fix dependencies soon |
| 09:35.43 | RinArenna | rubs her chin. "Dependencies?" |
| 09:35.56 | Saeris1 | i can't update my map yet, adding the campaign dependencies deletes all my data |
| 09:36.05 | RinArenna | Ah, those dependencies.. |
| 09:36.07 | Helral | :S |
| 09:36.16 | Helral | that sucks... |
| 09:36.19 | Sixen | What's wrong with Dependencies now? |
| 09:36.22 | Saeris1 | they really need to fix that shit |
| 09:36.49 | Saeris1 | for me sixen, it reset all my data if i load the campaign dependencies |
| 09:36.54 | Helral | Sixen: well if you include all 4 possible dependencies then you can't create working behaviors :P |
| 09:37.29 | sugoi | Helral: explain |
| 09:37.42 | RinArenna | Ah-hah~! Helral, you're awesome. |
| 09:37.44 | Fisker | Sixen ! |
| 09:37.47 | Sixen | Bah |
| 09:37.49 | Sixen | That's no good. |
| 09:37.56 | RinArenna | Wait, what? |
| 09:37.56 | Sixen | ekcolnovkol: you there? |
| 09:37.58 | Fisker | When will Blizzard create some kind of Battle.net account that's kind of like Steam |
| 09:38.01 | Helral | sugoi: the action/function bit? |
| 09:38.03 | Fisker | battle.net client* |
| 09:38.13 | RinArenna | So... Just remove one of the dependencies..? |
| 09:38.13 | Sixen | who knows |
| 09:38.15 | sugoi | Helral: no no, got that down just fine |
| 09:38.18 | sugoi | talking about the deps |
| 09:38.20 | Sixen | but they're making a chat bot, which is awesome |
| 09:38.20 | Fisker | you do! |
| 09:38.25 | Fisker | naw :( |
| 09:38.26 | Fisker | not awesome |
| 09:38.41 | Sixen | I'm hoping they include it in the Editor too |
| 09:38.51 | Fisker | also |
| 09:38.52 | Sixen | Since, logging into the editor shows your friends you're online. |
| 09:38.54 | Helral | sugoi: blizzard has split up the game in 4 dependencies: the base game, the campaign bit, another campaign bit, and the melee bit. |
| 09:38.59 | Fisker | said battle.net client should let me be logged in 24/7 :( |
| 09:39.05 | Sixen | Of course. |
| 09:39.29 | sugoi | yes [sorry i was so vague], why can't you make "working behaviors" if you have all 4? |
| 09:39.32 | Fisker | it's silly |
| 09:39.56 | Fisker | apparently if you have an authenticator and lose connection on SC2 you can't reconnect without quitting the game and logging in at the main screen |
| 09:40.04 | Fisker | however if you don't have one, it automatically logs in again |
| 09:40.06 | Helral | sugoi: no idea, my behaviors just didn't work if I included all 4, they didn't show up in the list of behaviors that can be applied to units. |
| 09:40.18 | sugoi | odd |
| 09:40.32 | sugoi | i'll keep that in mind (haven't messed with behaviors yet) |
| 09:40.41 | RinArenna | >Behaviors |
| 09:40.49 | RinArenna | Mind explaining a little bit..? |
| 09:41.11 | Helral | Data Editor --> Data Type: Behavior |
| 09:41.22 | Dogmai | out of curiosity, does blizzard have an inbuilt hero button system (that shows them in the top left corner) |
| 09:41.32 | Dogmai | before i start building my own? |
| 09:41.33 | Helral | bottom right. |
| 09:41.39 | Nesetalis | ok footprint is pointless, i cant get it smaller :p |
| 09:41.57 | Helral | Dogmai: they have in bottom right bit. |
| 09:42.07 | Dogmai | ah, can you drop items on them |
| 09:42.10 | Dogmai | or are they just static |
| 09:42.12 | Saeris1 | great |
| 09:42.18 | Saeris1 | i finally get a full game |
| 09:42.22 | Saeris1 | then my client crashes again |
| 09:42.23 | Dogmai | if they are static I will just make my own |
| 09:42.25 | Saeris1 | mother fucker |
| 09:42.26 | Helral | Dogmai: no idea. check the Hero checkbox on the Hero unit and check. |
| 09:42.42 | Dogmai | i havnt even opened the unit menu yet |
| 09:42.45 | Dogmai | im just in triggers |
| 09:42.47 | Dogmai | :P |
| 09:43.08 | vjeux | omg i've got the french client and 20% of the trigger names are not translated -_- |
| 09:43.08 | Helral | well just go to the data editor pick a unit, check the box, place the unit on the map, and test it :P |
| 09:43.15 | Helral | still??? |
| 09:43.18 | vjeux | this is just impossible to do anything, they are all blank |
| 09:43.28 | Helral | vjeux: hit ctrl+d and work like that. |
| 09:43.39 | vjeux | OH THANKS! |
| 09:43.39 | ekcolnovkol | vj |
| 09:43.45 | Helral | or go to battle.net website and download the english version. |
| 09:43.48 | ekcolnovkol | i removed the dependencies |
| 09:43.50 | ekcolnovkol | o .o |
| 09:43.52 | vjeux | ekcolnovkol: great |
| 09:43.55 | vjeux | Helral: doing it |
| 09:43.59 | ekcolnovkol | will send you a copy in 24 hours |
| 09:44.00 | vjeux | but it takes ages to download the 7gig :p |
| 09:44.02 | vjeux | ok great |
| 09:44.11 | ekcolnovkol | btw |
| 09:44.11 | vjeux | how did you do? |
| 09:44.24 | ekcolnovkol | i dunno it just happened |
| 09:44.33 | vjeux | ok lol |
| 09:45.44 | Aussie123 | what would be better for my map, ultras or colloussus?\ |
| 09:46.02 | Aussie123 | would u rather get chased by a ultra or collosus\ |
| 09:47.24 | Helral | hmmmm if I can fly, a Collosus XD |
| 09:47.30 | Helral | since it can't hit me :P |
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| 09:47.36 | Aussie123 | if u were a zergling\ |
| 09:47.48 | Helral | an Ultra, since I can use ramps then to escape. |
| 09:47.49 | Aussie123 | the collosus will be huge\ |
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| 09:48.37 | sugoi | i'm trying to mess with the camera, i've got it moving around great...not sure what the right method to get the cam to follow unit |
| 09:48.58 | Helral | Lock Camera to Unit. |
| 09:49.02 | Helral | or something like that. |
| 09:49.10 | Motive | Does anyone know what "Speed" is in SC2? |
| 09:49.12 | Motive | Like, for example |
| 09:49.15 | Motive | If I had a speed of 7 |
| 09:49.19 | Motive | does that mean 7 units of distance/second? |
| 09:49.29 | Helral | think so. |
| 09:49.44 | Clord | thay heve based stuff around tiles |
| 09:49.46 | Helral | 7 squares (see building squares) per second I think. |
| 09:49.49 | Clord | speed of 1.... 1 tiles per second |
| 09:49.50 | Clord | ^^ |
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| 09:50.11 | Motive | Alright |
| 09:50.12 | Motive | thanks |
| 09:50.22 | Helral | I played a bit with speed for my race map. :P |
| 09:50.58 | Helral | I actually change the speed of the Hellion in my raceminigame, based on how long you've had the throttle pressed. |
| 09:51.21 | RinArenna | I'm starting to think that Blizzard is going to put exploding critters in every strategy game they make. |
| 09:51.26 | Helral | XD |
| 09:51.34 | Helral | RinArenna: you like them? |
| 09:51.48 | RinArenna | Definitely. |
| 09:52.31 | RinArenna | I was playing the campaign and said to my brother, "Oh hey I wonder if critters explo-*Explosion sound* Yep, they do." |
| 09:52.34 | Helral | hmmm my click Defense (the one I made before I set it to take over units) used to explode units. |
| 09:52.50 | Helral | 30 mouseclicks = exploding critter atm. |
| 09:53.06 | RinArenna | Hmm... Is it possible to reduce that number..? |
| 09:53.12 | Helral | yeah in the editor. |
| 09:53.20 | RinArenna | grins. |
| 09:53.24 | Helral | Data Editor --> Behaviors --> Critter Explode |
| 09:53.48 | Helral | Click Response (Type of Critter Explode) |
| 09:55.31 | RinArenna | ...Where do you find that part? The Click Response part? Ohh, I see, it's in the tree on the left. |
| 09:55.49 | Nesetalis | so there is no way to have a footprint smaller than 1,1? |
| 09:56.48 | RinArenna | I'm falling in love with this editor... |
| 09:56.56 | Sixen | :) |
| 09:57.01 | Dogmai | I share your love mate |
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| 09:57.14 | Nesetalis | im beginning to hate it for its limitations :p |
| 09:57.21 | Dogmai | lawl |
| 09:57.25 | RinArenna | XD |
| 09:57.26 | Dogmai | I share your hate |
| 09:57.27 | Sixen | limitations? :O |
| 09:57.35 | RinArenna | What limitations? |
| 09:57.41 | Dogmai | Yeah, Hide GAME UI and it disables all the hotkeys, that is driving me insane |
| 09:57.43 | Nesetalis | overlapping blockers D: |
| 09:57.48 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/5677-change-editor-region/ |
| 09:57.49 | Sixen | pfft, that probably isn't intended. |
| 09:57.55 | RinArenna | Compared to the TFT editor this is barely limited. |
| 09:58.08 | Dogmai | But they still did it, I think its a conspiracy theory |
| 09:58.14 | Dogmai | Just to stop me finishing my map |
| 09:58.15 | Fisker | hey again Sixen |
| 09:58.17 | Dogmai | So I dont put you all to shame |
| 09:58.18 | Dogmai | :P |
| 09:58.24 | RinArenna | =p |
| 09:58.39 | RinArenna | Once I get used to this I'll attempt to make an intricate map. |
| 09:58.57 | Nesetalis | have you poked at creating units yet, RinArenna? |
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| 09:59.01 | RinArenna | But there are a LOT of new things that I need to figure out. |
| 09:59.13 | RinArenna | I've barely poked at designing terrain. =x |
| 09:59.28 | Nesetalis | save your praise until youve made your first unit with unique ability |
| 09:59.29 | Nesetalis | :p |
| 09:59.40 | Helral | Vjeux: Regedit --> Starcraft II Editor --> ....Host (not standardly listed) |
| 09:59.41 | Nesetalis | -stabs it in the face repeatedly with a spork- D: |
| 09:59.51 | Helral | can't remember the exact details, will look it up when I get home. |
| 10:00.00 | Sixen | Host is listed in the editor I thought |
| 10:00.07 | Helral|Work | not after beta ended. |
| 10:00.10 | Sixen | ah |
| 10:00.13 | RinArenna | I was going straight up bonkers trying to find a door for the installation maps... |
| 10:00.18 | Sixen | You can't actuAlly change it though |
| 10:00.24 | Sixen | It only publishes to another region if you have an account there. |
| 10:00.31 | Helral|Work | you can change the login region XD |
| 10:00.37 | Helral|Work | not the region of the editor itself. |
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| 10:00.42 | vjeux | Helral|Work: what's the exact name? |
| 10:00.50 | Helral|Work | uhm.... :P |
| 10:01.04 | Helral|Work | Starts the same as the user account one. that is listed there. |
| 10:01.11 | vjeux | i have only BattleNetAccount, BattleNetCharacterProfile and Locale |
| 10:01.13 | Helral|Work | BattleNetHost or something. |
| 10:01.17 | vjeux | Locale is frFR |
| 10:01.25 | Helral|Work | it just changes the login location though. |
| 10:01.45 | vjeux | can you publish on other realms? |
| 10:01.50 | vjeux | regions |
| 10:01.55 | Helral|Work | so if you set BattleNetHost to US, you can use that to publish. |
| 10:02.19 | Helral|Work | you'll need to use the correct login data. think it is us.login.battle.net :P |
| 10:02.38 | RinArenna | Holy... The Light Editor is sort of confusing... |
| 10:02.45 | Helral|Work | I haven't tested if you can publish correctly to us after release though. |
| 10:02.53 | Dogmai | I think its kind of ironic that we (Aus) are getting f'ed in the ass right now, but at the end of the day, we will be the only ones with access to two regions. |
| 10:02.56 | Helral|Work | it still is? :P |
| 10:03.12 | Dogmai | Just a matter of waiting ... |
| 10:03.33 | RinArenna | "Key" "Fill" "Back" ..? |
| 10:03.43 | Helral|Work | Dogmai: in the end there won't be region restrictions on the game anymore, just need to select the region you want. |
| 10:04.00 | Helral|Work | Dogmai: but that's at least 2 years away. |
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| 10:04.14 | Dogmai | Depends who has bigger balls |
| 10:04.17 | Dogmai | Acti side or Blizz side |
| 10:04.36 | Dogmai | or perhaps we should blame dota |
| 10:04.45 | Helral|Work | yeah blame dota XD |
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| 10:05.12 | Dogmai | As I believe region and lack of lan is completely attributed to easily hacking the game to A) add fake bnet emulator servers and B) garena virtual servers through lan |
| 10:06.02 | Helral|Work | they'll release a professional version (which will be available through your local hacking networks) for use on professional lan hosting locations. |
| 10:07.27 | RinArenna | Dota is to blame for everything. =| |
| 10:08.14 | Dogmai | probably |
| 10:08.20 | Helral|Work | so in other words, a hacked lan version will be available. just because they didn't add lan suport right away. |
| 10:08.28 | Dogmai | it could be as simple as changing your hosts file |
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| 10:08.41 | Dogmai | to a local network computer that is hosting an emulated server |
| 10:08.45 | Helral|Work | dogmai: it is XD |
| 10:09.29 | Dogmai | its the most obvious solution |
| 10:09.38 | Dogmai | same how cs4+cs5 has been hacked |
| 10:10.03 | Helral|Work | cs4? |
| 10:10.06 | Helral|Work | cs5? |
| 10:10.12 | Dogmai | adobe suite |
| 10:10.14 | Dogmai | photoshop |
| 10:10.16 | Helral|Work | ahhh |
| 10:10.18 | RinArenna | =/ How do you go about making the map darker..? And I mean, much darker. |
| 10:10.22 | Dogmai | just by hosts files |
| 10:10.23 | Dogmai | thats all |
| 10:10.29 | Dogmai | no activation hack or anything |
| 10:10.37 | Helral|Work | RinArenna: change the default light |
| 10:11.50 | RinArenna | ...Is it not supposed to change on the map editor screen? |
| 10:12.23 | Helral|Work | don't think I saw changes on the map editor screen itself, just ingame. |
| 10:12.48 | Helral|Work | or maybe it was the terrain lightning that needed altering. :S can't remember. |
| 10:14.15 | RinArenna | Terrain lighting..? |
| 10:14.21 | RinArenna | is definitely confused. |
| 10:14.50 | Helral|Work | in the light editor there are the different terrains listed with each their own lights. |
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| 10:15.34 | RinArenna | Default Light sends me to the same Light as my Terrain does, so it shouldn't be any different either way. |
| 10:15.41 | sugoi | well time for sleep |
| 10:15.43 | ubdead | herro |
| 10:15.45 | sugoi | i have work in 3 hours |
| 10:15.49 | ubdead | lol! |
| 10:15.52 | ubdead | good night |
| 10:15.56 | RinArenna | G'night |
| 10:15.57 | ubdead | or mornin';) |
| 10:18.32 | vjeux | http://www.millenium.org/home/accueil/actualites/sc2-nouveaux-cheat-codes-34054 |
| 10:18.35 | vjeux | they found cheat codes |
| 10:18.40 | vjeux | do you know where they are stored? |
| 10:18.55 | Helral|Work | prolly in a simple xml file. |
| 10:19.54 | RinArenna | http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenium.org%2Fhome%2Faccueil%2Factualites%2Fsc2-nouveaux-cheat-codes-34054&sl=fr&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8 |
| 10:22.48 | Sixen | vjeux, I have a bunch of codes listed |
| 10:22.55 | Sixen | hehe |
| 10:23.00 | vjeux | we need to make a news about it :) |
| 10:23.01 | Sixen | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/218522336 |
| 10:23.07 | Sixen | it's not a complete list though |
| 10:23.10 | Sixen | there's 24 cheats. |
| 10:23.18 | rrowland | Make a news about how I have 100% compaign completed 8) |
| 10:23.26 | Sixen | accept rrow |
| 10:23.32 | Sixen | dual-monitors are ftw. |
| 10:23.43 | rrowland | I need 3 monitors |
| 10:23.48 | Sixen | 3 would be awesome |
| 10:23.51 | rrowland | 1 for mirc, 1 for sc2 and 1 for chrome |
| 10:23.55 | Sixen | that'd be awesome. |
| 10:24.04 | Sixen | I was going to say IRC, SC2, and FF though. |
| 10:24.04 | vjeux | :) |
| 10:24.18 | vjeux | where did you find those? |
| 10:24.30 | Sixen | people just guess them, they're not in the files or anything |
| 10:24.38 | Sixen | I found the constants in Natives.galaxy though |
| 10:24.47 | vjeux | WhySoSerious - Gives 5,000,000 credits Reference to the Joker in the "Dark Knight." http://www.whysoserious.com/ |
| 10:24.53 | vjeux | seriously people guess that? |
| 10:24.56 | vjeux | i can't believe it :p |
| 10:25.05 | Sixen | It's the only way :P |
| 10:25.16 | vjeux | nah |
| 10:25.20 | vjeux | they are in the files somewhere |
| 10:25.47 | Sixen | if they were, someone would've found them alreday =o |
| 10:27.19 | vjeux | you just have to open maps in the editor and find cheat codes (like those I listed for lost viking) |
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| 10:27.31 | vjeux | and no one talked about it :P |
| 10:27.50 | Helral|Work | vjeux: the general cheat codes arent in the maps themselves :P |
| 10:27.56 | vjeux | yup |
| 10:28.15 | Sevenation | wait what |
| 10:28.24 | Sevenation | there's no way anyone guessed Tyuhasleftthegame |
| 10:29.05 | Helral|Work | someone might have been bored and tried stuff with hasleftthegame :P |
| 10:29.41 | vjeux | or blizz told few |
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| 10:31.40 | Sevenation | Sixen, what unlocks that portrait |
| 10:33.00 | Fisker | it's a fake Sixen |
| 10:33.14 | Fisker | collector's edition Sevenation |
| 10:33.19 | Sevenation | oh |
| 10:33.20 | Sevenation | damn |
| 10:33.27 | Sevenation | I got my Kerrigan portrait today :D |
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| 10:36.45 | vjeux | ok it's not on any of the gamedata files nor trigger libs |
| 10:38.26 | Aussie123 | can u make units jump in this?\ |
| 10:38.29 | Aussie123 | editor\ |
| 10:38.52 | Sevenation | You've gotta do it through triggers I think |
| 10:38.54 | Aussie123 | in an ability\ |
| 10:39.02 | Sevenation | oh |
| 10:39.16 | Sevenation | dunno :D |
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| 10:39.38 | Aussie123 | well u could jump in WC3\ |
| 10:39.46 | Aussie123 | isnt it the same editor + more\ |
| 10:40.10 | Sixen | Depends, Sevenation. |
| 10:40.12 | Sixen | There's a bunch of things. |
| 10:40.56 | Nesetalis | bleh, i found a size that /works/ mostly.. -shakes fist at the editor- but thats enough playing around for today. |
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| 10:41.45 | Dedo | morning |
| 10:43.44 | Fisker | you can't build on enemy pylon power can you? |
| 10:43.46 | Helral|Work | Sevenation: try sending the jump command to the actor and see if it jumps. then figure out a way to send that command using an ability. |
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| 10:46.16 | Aussie123 | the reaper jumps right\ |
| 10:46.22 | Aussie123 | wouldn't that be an ability\ |
| 10:46.27 | Aussie123 | inside of it\ |
| 10:48.09 | Sevenation | Thanks Helral |
| 10:48.36 | Sevenation | And @Aussie: I think it's just the reapers cliff jump animation |
| 10:48.49 | Sevenation | I guess you could make it do that on level ground, but I wouldn't know how |
| 10:48.56 | Fisker | does anyone know if you can or not? |
| 10:49.30 | Helral|Work | Fisker: you can't. |
| 10:49.44 | Fisker | thanks |
| 10:49.45 | Helral|Work | Fisker: maybe you can make it possible though. |
| 10:53.27 | Fisker | man |
| 10:53.31 | Fisker | this is not even possible :D |
| 10:53.40 | Fisker | trying to cannonrush 4 insane ai |
| 10:54.00 | Fisker | By the time i have like 3 cannons they have like 20 zealots |
| 10:54.18 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 10:58.32 | ubdead | oh man every day using the editor i atleast once think "whyyyyy blizzard, whhyyyyyyy" |
| 10:59.07 | ubdead | Fisker cannon rush worked for me on normal |
| 10:59.15 | ubdead | havent tried on hard yet |
| 10:59.38 | ubdead | oh wait you're on insane xD |
| 10:59.45 | ubdead | ye that should be a bit hard haha |
| 11:02.04 | Clord | blizzard gives quite much for game price when it comes to editor |
| 11:02.04 | Clord | lol |
| 11:02.13 | Sevenation | Anyone up for Debates? |
| 11:02.25 | Sevenation | New version, fixed major bnet bug! |
| 11:02.51 | Aussie123 | fix the no chat room bug\ |
| 11:03.17 | Clord | too bad that missing feature or wanted feature is not bug |
| 11:03.53 | Fisker | just did cannonrush on insane :P |
| 11:04.02 | Fisker | only 2 players this time though |
| 11:04.32 | Fisker | now i have to do it on very hard |
| 11:04.38 | Fisker | with 4 players |
| 11:04.40 | ubdead | debates is so funny lol |
| 11:04.50 | ubdead | my english isn't good enough :( |
| 11:05.36 | Fisker | anyone know what the difference between very hard and insane is? |
| 11:05.40 | Aussie123 | replace is with are and you could have fooled me\ |
| 11:06.29 | Aussie123 | insane is ..insane very hard is.. very hard\ |
| 11:08.05 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/jungle-myst/. Jungle-Myst. Molotow87 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 11:08.16 | Helral|Work | Sevenation: why is the world not flat? |
| 11:10.21 | athaudia | Helral|Work: it is! and it's carried on the shoulders of four elephants which themselves are standing on a giant turtle! |
| 11:10.38 | Helral|Work | athaudia: but what is the gender of the turtle? |
| 11:10.52 | athaudia | Helral|Work: they haven't found out :( |
| 11:11.03 | Helral|Work | they did send an expedition.... |
| 11:11.27 | athaudia | i know ^^ first or second book it was even xD |
| 11:11.41 | Helral|Work | (I really need to read those novels XD) |
| 11:11.56 | athaudia | :D |
| 11:12.06 | Helral|Work | I've seen 2 movies though XD |
| 11:12.33 | Helral|Work | the hogfather and the colors of magic? (not certain about second title) |
| 11:13.03 | athaudia | yeah ^^ colour of magic being the movie of the first book, hogfather of a much later book ^^ |
| 11:13.35 | Clord | god probably helped to make bible that people stop that nonsense about flat world and other stuff like that |
| 11:13.42 | Clord | XD |
| 11:13.45 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:14.07 | Helral|Work | hmmm let's ask him, Clord :P |
| 11:14.18 | Helral|Work | Dogmai: is what Clord said true? :P |
| 11:14.18 | Clord | it is called praying |
| 11:14.24 | Helral|Work | XD |
| 11:16.15 | Helral|Work | some people should really work on their nicknames :P |
| 11:16.24 | Helral|Work | not saying who :P |
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| 11:29.25 | Sixen | Helral|Work: I don't have a "Hosts" reg key. |
| 11:29.48 | Dogmai | what |
| 11:29.53 | Dogmai | your lucky i alt tabbed back |
| 11:29.58 | Dogmai | saw my name :P |
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| 11:30.57 | Dogmai | oh |
| 11:31.00 | Dogmai | my name ... |
| 11:31.07 | Dogmai | that one went over my head |
| 11:33.37 | Helral|Work | XD |
| 11:34.01 | Helral|Work | and Dogmai: did you create the bible for that reason XD |
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| 11:36.37 | Dogmai | I created the bible so that stupid people would have something to bitch about rather than talking to me |
| 11:36.38 | Dogmai | :P |
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| 11:39.32 | Helral | hmmm |
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| 11:40.40 | Clord | lol... kami or negami would be quite weird nickname choices |
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| 11:40.52 | Dogmai | I actually hate religion quite alot |
| 11:41.03 | Dogmai | So I do not think my sense of humour was as good as it should have been :) |
| 11:41.46 | Helral|Work | you should watch Dogma XD |
| 11:41.57 | Dogmai | I love dogma |
| 11:42.00 | Helral|Work | that movie with Jay and Silent Bob :P |
| 11:42.06 | Dogmai | Big fan of kevin smith |
| 11:42.21 | Dogmai | i just created hotkeys for dialogs |
| 11:42.30 | Helral|Work | doesn't know any actor names :P |
| 11:42.34 | Motive | So, question |
| 11:42.38 | Motive | how do you change the skybox of a map? |
| 11:42.42 | Dogmai | silent bob = kevin smith |
| 11:42.44 | Helral|Work | except the really famous ones ofcourse. |
| 11:42.46 | Dogmai | director |
| 11:42.47 | Motive | So that if you look up, it's not just a black abyss? |
| 11:43.14 | Helral|Work | Motive: no idea, did you check the Data Editor --> Gameplay Data? |
| 11:43.20 | Motive | Nope |
| 11:43.50 | Helral|Work | Clord: why would Kami be weird? |
| 11:44.03 | Clord | lol |
| 11:44.08 | Motive | A brief look through Gameplay data yields nothing |
| 11:44.36 | Helral|Work | Clord: it's a very old green dude (shorter version: That Namek on that watches over Earth in DBZ) |
| 11:44.59 | Helral|Work | hmmm I should stop changing my sentences while I'm typing.... |
| 11:45.00 | Phaos | try tilesets |
| 11:45.10 | Clord | yeah considering kami means paper, hair, god, delicious taste... etc |
| 11:45.12 | Phaos | you can change both background and background active |
| 11:45.12 | Clord | emperor |
| 11:45.23 | Helral|Work | XD |
| 11:45.28 | Helral|Work | you should try Fujin |
| 11:45.34 | Clord | it also means toilet paper =) |
| 11:45.41 | Clord | if want say it short |
| 11:45.42 | Clord | lol |
| 11:45.55 | Helral|Work | you know Wind God (Fujin) XD |
| 11:46.14 | Clord | fujin and raijin |
| 11:46.18 | Clord | gods of wind and thunder |
| 11:46.20 | Clord | or whatever |
| 11:46.20 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:46.34 | Helral|Work | Fujin --> Lady |
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| 11:46.51 | Motive | Got it |
| 11:46.53 | Motive | :D |
| 11:46.57 | Fisker | IS NOT POSSIBLE |
| 11:47.03 | Phaos | what was it Motive ? |
| 11:47.09 | Helral|Work | Clord: http://www.tao-of-tattoos.com/japanese-translation-for-kanji.html |
| 11:47.14 | Motive | Terrain Texture Sets |
| 11:47.20 | Phaos | good. thought so |
| 11:47.28 | Motive | CTerrain_FixedSkyboxModel |
| 11:47.28 | Motive | t |
| 11:47.33 | Motive | that begs the question why I don't see it |
| 11:47.38 | Clord | fujin and raijin are also names of gods |
| 11:47.45 | Motive | but that may be due to graphics settings |
| 11:47.54 | Helral|Work | I know :P you're missing one in the list though. |
| 11:48.00 | Phaos | try running the game |
| 11:48.03 | Helral|Work | Fujin, Raijin, and uhm... |
| 11:48.05 | Phaos | might not show in the editor |
| 11:48.13 | Helral|Work | Sujin or something |
| 11:48.25 | Helral|Work | Suijin even. |
| 11:49.48 | Motive | yeah |
| 11:49.50 | Motive | I'm testing in-game |
| 11:51.54 | Motive | Put it to Medium, this skybox will just not show up. :( |
| 11:52.00 | Clord | hi, kaze, rai, tsuchi, kinsoku.... XD |
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| 11:54.31 | Helral|Work | how many are you going to list, Clord? |
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| 11:57.33 | ubdead | hey is vjeux still here? |
| 11:57.49 | ubdead | or sixen? |
| 11:58.53 | Helral|Work | try slapping them with trouts |
| 11:58.53 | Sixen | what's up |
| 11:58.57 | ubdead | Clord isn't evil wind a cold :D? |
| 11:58.57 | ubdead | well |
| 11:58.57 | Sixen | = |
| 11:58.57 | Sixen | o |
| 11:59.05 | ubdead | do you have access to the site's css? |
| 11:59.13 | Sixen | yes |
| 11:59.22 | Sixen | for the most part |
| 11:59.24 | ubdead | how do you feel about adding 5px padding to <li> |
| 11:59.28 | vjeux | yes ubdead |
| 11:59.33 | ubdead | makes it so much better to read |
| 11:59.38 | vjeux | good idea |
| 11:59.42 | vjeux | finishing my td and will do |
| 11:59.51 | ubdead | thanks alot |
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| 11:59.56 | Sixen | There's no padding? |
| 11:59.58 | Sixen | Looks fine, :O. |
| 12:00.09 | Sixen | go for it ;p |
| 12:00.56 | ubdead | mnn 3px should do :P |
| 12:01.00 | ubdead | 5 might be a bit much |
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| 12:11.01 | Motive | What we really need is |
| 12:11.06 | Motive | a way to unbind events. |
| 12:11.13 | Motive | Like TriggerRemoveEvent... |
| 12:11.17 | Phaos | unbind O.o ? |
| 12:11.24 | Motive | I just realized that after writing some code that relies on key presses |
| 12:11.28 | Motive | but only while firstperson mode is active |
| 12:11.37 | Motive | I bind the keybinds only when firstperson is activated |
| 12:11.42 | Motive | it'd be real nice if I could unbind later |
| 12:12.07 | Eagl3s1ght | You can disable a trigger can't you? Should do the same thing |
| 12:12.35 | Motive | I can disable a trigger, yes |
| 12:12.39 | Motive | but I don't want to disable this trigger |
| 12:12.44 | Motive | as it responds to every single player's events. |
| 12:12.53 | Motive | I want to remove the one player's firstperson mode keybinds. |
| 12:12.55 | Motive | Not everyone's. |
| 12:13.10 | Eagl3s1ght | ah |
| 12:13.11 | Motive | Also disabling a trigger doesn't necessarily disable the events that point at it. |
| 12:13.11 | Helral|Work | Motive: you can bind a single players key presses? |
| 12:13.26 | Motive | TriggerAddEventKeyPressed( t, EventPlayer(), c_keyW, true, c_keyModifierStateIgnore, c_keyModifierStateIgnore, c_keyModifierStateIgnore ); |
| 12:13.28 | Motive | Yes :) |
| 12:13.41 | Helral|Work | nice. |
| 12:14.31 | Helral|Work | I'd use a condition to check whether or not to use the event. |
| 12:14.49 | Motive | Oh, no, that's not the problem. |
| 12:14.51 | Motive | The code is all written |
| 12:14.59 | Motive | it would just be nice if when switching back to thirdperson, I could also disable the keybinds |
| 12:15.04 | Motive | Just to save network bandwidth |
| 12:15.07 | Helral|Work | true |
| 12:15.27 | Helral|Work | post it on the blizzard forums as an idea for them to implement XD |
| 12:15.37 | Motive | Will do once I'm done with my map. :) |
| 12:16.22 | vjeux | Clord: omg i'm going to play your map! |
| 12:16.41 | ubdead | and which map is that? |
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| 12:16.48 | vjeux | THE card game |
| 12:16.49 | Rodrigo | hey |
| 12:16.50 | Rodrigo | Sixen |
| 12:16.58 | Rodrigo | I just posted a forum right now |
| 12:17.03 | ubdead | ohhh yea i think it sounds cool to |
| 12:17.06 | vjeux | posted a forum? :p |
| 12:17.07 | Rodrigo | talking about the solution to a huge bug |
| 12:17.10 | Rodrigo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/mapping-utilities/editor-bugs-and-feedback/5685-the-root-of-many-bugs-player-leaves-game/ |
| 12:17.13 | Rodrigo | sorry |
| 12:17.18 | Rodrigo | posted a thread in the forum |
| 12:17.31 | ubdead | reading |
| 12:17.32 | ubdead | it |
| 12:18.22 | Motive | Nice |
| 12:18.43 | Rodrigo | thats a huge bug |
| 12:18.50 | Rodrigo | it causes the game to freeze |
| 12:19.06 | Helral|Work | thank god I always pressed surrender :P |
| 12:19.11 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 12:19.19 | Helral|Work | and so did my opponents XD |
| 12:19.33 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 12:20.28 | ubdead | never crashed for me |
| 12:20.51 | Rodrigo | maybe because you never played a custom game with bank actions |
| 12:21.03 | ubdead | could be |
| 12:21.19 | Rodrigo | just one player remaking it |
| 12:21.20 | ubdead | btw Rodrigo your debates video is funny |
| 12:21.22 | Rodrigo | and it will crash everyone |
| 12:21.27 | Rodrigo | lol thanks |
| 12:21.30 | Rodrigo | I made a new one today |
| 12:21.39 | Rodrigo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTU__w-Eyt4 |
| 12:21.43 | Rodrigo | this one shows REAL GAMEPLAY |
| 12:21.46 | Rodrigo | epic debates lol |
| 12:21.53 | ubdead | wow lots of players |
| 12:22.06 | Rodrigo | yeah |
| 12:22.14 | Rodrigo | we played with more than 20 players |
| 12:22.22 | Rodrigo | different matches with 8 players |
| 12:22.28 | ubdead | UR MOM IS FLAWED |
| 12:22.29 | ubdead | lol |
| 12:22.30 | ubdead | wat |
| 12:22.34 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 12:23.22 | Rodrigo | if you want to play with us one day, add me: RODRIGO 881 |
| 12:23.50 | ubdead | nah im no good at debates |
| 12:23.54 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 12:23.55 | ubdead | im too much of a troll |
| 12:24.00 | Rodrigo | haha |
| 12:24.10 | Rodrigo | theres really good people playing |
| 12:24.21 | Rodrigo | Nesetalis owns |
| 12:24.44 | ubdead | i see, it would be awesome if an actual politician used this map to practise lol |
| 12:25.10 | ubdead | Pokemons are evil |
| 12:25.11 | ubdead | lol |
| 12:25.17 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 12:25.25 | ubdead | do you have a thread with Thought suggestions? |
| 12:26.04 | Rodrigo | not actually. You can post thought suggestion on the debates thread "[Video] My map is weird" or on youtube |
| 12:26.34 | Rodrigo | the thought of the week I got from here |
| 12:26.38 | ubdead | i see |
| 12:26.51 | Rodrigo | I gave credit to who suggested |
| 12:26.55 | Rodrigo | and to where |
| 12:26.59 | Rodrigo | Sc2mapsters.com |
| 12:27.14 | Rodrigo | if you press F12 you can see his name |
| 12:28.39 | Helral|Work | hmmmm |
| 12:28.54 | Helral|Work | just saw your debates movie |
| 12:29.05 | Helral|Work | I got just one thing to say about the last debate. |
| 12:29.23 | ubdead | oh i cant actually read them |
| 12:29.41 | vjeux | ubdead: www.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ |
| 12:30.04 | vjeux | it looks a lot better |
| 12:30.08 | ubdead | much better yea |
| 12:30.23 | vjeux | have to fix the h6 being black |
| 12:30.23 | Clord | http://static.sc2mapster.com/base/images/404kitten.jpg?r=650ba7347e |
| 12:30.34 | vjeux | Clord: i've been pwned on your map :( |
| 12:30.37 | ubdead | hehe IM SOWWWY |
| 12:30.46 | ubdead | i fucking love kittens |
| 12:30.52 | ubdead | wish i had one |
| 12:30.55 | Helral|Work | I got a comment on that image... |
| 12:31.04 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 12:31.06 | Clord | vjeux... card map? XD |
| 12:31.10 | vjeux | yes |
| 12:31.15 | Helral|Work | it should say: "I TWIED WEALLY HAWD TO FIND IT" |
| 12:31.31 | vjeux | :p |
| 12:31.35 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 12:31.42 | Clord | more combo cards incoming like |
| 12:31.44 | ubdead | ;) |
| 12:31.46 | Clord | turn all zerglings to banelings on field |
| 12:31.47 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:31.49 | vjeux | xD |
| 12:31.55 | ubdead | awesome |
| 12:32.04 | vjeux | btw, the middle card cost is being hidden by the chat :( |
| 12:32.07 | ubdead | i was thinking of making a yugioh rip-off lol |
| 12:32.33 | Rodrigo | Im going to start a debates match right now |
| 12:32.42 | Rodrigo | theres people wanting to play |
| 12:32.44 | ubdead | Star-Craft-Oh |
| 12:32.46 | ubdead | lol |
| 12:33.03 | ubdead | have fun Rodrigo, i have to finish my tutorial :( |
| 12:33.07 | Clord | oh btw.. there is new footage about card map |
| 12:33.08 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 12:33.12 | Rodrigo | k ty |
| 12:33.17 | rrowland | instead of yu gi oh, es si oh |
| 12:33.21 | rrowland | (SC-oh) |
| 12:33.22 | Rodrigo | if u want to play one day: ++ RODRIGO 881 |
| 12:33.24 | Rodrigo | bye |
| 12:33.34 | Helral|Work | wondering which realm XD |
| 12:33.41 | ubdead | lol indeed |
| 12:34.09 | Clord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeLNVvLDSv8&playnext=1&videos=A2c8l1TvUns |
| 12:34.14 | Helral|Work | hmmmm on which realms are goomba and rrowland? |
| 12:34.16 | vjeux | ok the h6 is not black anymore |
| 12:34.18 | Clord | unlisted footage :) |
| 12:34.59 | ubdead | (personaly i think 5px might be a little too much, 3px looks good imho) |
| 12:35.30 | Clord | oh yes I need friends to my friend list |
| 12:35.32 | Clord | other than one ude |
| 12:36.12 | Clord | Clord 438 Europe |
| 12:36.13 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:36.47 | ubdead | blizzard should add folder |
| 12:36.48 | ubdead | s |
| 12:36.54 | ubdead | to the friends list |
| 12:37.21 | Sevenation | Debates game going on right now! |
| 12:37.26 | Sevenation | Add Sevenation.105 to play! |
| 12:37.50 | ubdead | too busssy |
| 12:37.51 | ubdead | :( |
| 12:37.53 | Sevenation | :( |
| 12:37.57 | Sevenation | omg |
| 12:38.01 | Sevenation | I just got your name lol |
| 12:38.03 | Sevenation | ubdead |
| 12:38.04 | Helral|Work | Sevenation what realm? |
| 12:38.05 | Sevenation | u b dead |
| 12:38.06 | Sevenation | dammit |
| 12:38.08 | Sevenation | US |
| 12:38.13 | vjeux | ok 3px |
| 12:38.29 | ubdead | perfect ;) |
| 12:38.39 | Helral|Work | Clord you can add me if you feel like it :P Helral.454 |
| 12:38.45 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:38.48 | Clord | okay |
| 12:38.53 | Clord | I plan to add many there |
| 12:39.19 | Clord | added |
| 12:39.20 | Helral|Work | there's a topic with several of our nick+code mentioned. |
| 12:39.42 | ubdead | just a second i tested my map, and got this weird behavior |
| 12:39.44 | ubdead | and i was like wtf |
| 12:39.52 | Helral|Work | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/5253-release-usernames/ |
| 12:40.04 | ubdead | then i realised i failed to follow my own tutorial |
| 12:40.41 | Helral|Work | awards ubdead with the achievement "Tutorial following failure" |
| 12:41.01 | ubdead | cool does that come with a reward? |
| 12:41.23 | Helral|Work | you now owe me administration costs for registering the achievement XD |
| 12:41.42 | ubdead | here have 400 interwebz |
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| 12:42.05 | Helral|Work | here's the change, 12 interwebz XD |
| 12:42.51 | ubdead | droogheid |
| 12:43.08 | Helral|Work | XD |
| 12:43.14 | kruno | is map making really that bad? I am reading a thread created 8 hours ago and it is very large, on Blizzard's SC2 forums. |
| 12:43.24 | kruno | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248425983?page=1 |
| 12:43.38 | Helral|Work | ubdead: ofcourse, I'm dutch :P |
| 12:43.44 | ubdead | rofl you are? |
| 12:43.49 | Helral|Work | like you :P |
| 12:44.00 | ubdead | that was pure coincidence lol |
| 12:44.27 | Helral|Work | your IRC address gave it away actually. |
| 12:44.39 | ubdead | makes sense |
| 12:44.57 | ubdead | ah so cambrium huh :P |
| 12:45.17 | Helral|Work | seems so XD |
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| 12:46.05 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o vjeux_] by ChanServ |
| 12:46.23 | Helral|Work | is becoming blind. |
| 12:46.27 | Helral|Work | sees 2 vjeux's |
| 12:48.05 | Helral|Work | can see again. the vjeux is gone XD |
| 12:50.44 | vjeux | vjeux is back! |
| 12:50.47 | vjeux | bsod ftl |
| 12:50.52 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 12:50.55 | ubdead | wow really |
| 12:51.01 | Helral|Work | you got a bsod? |
| 12:51.04 | Helral|Work | what did you do? |
| 12:51.19 | ubdead | haven't had one of those since i tried to install a 1999 wireless card |
| 12:51.29 | vjeux | trying to quit sc2 :p |
| 12:51.34 | ubdead | driver? |
| 12:51.47 | vjeux | mac book pro (the old one) on windows xp |
| 12:51.51 | vjeux | i really need to go to seven |
| 12:51.55 | vjeux | but the install doesn't work ( |
| 12:52.07 | ubdead | i see |
| 12:52.13 | ubdead | seven is awesome |
| 12:52.15 | ubdead | best windows ever |
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| 12:52.53 | ubdead | driver_irql_not_less_or_equal is my favorite bsod |
| 12:55.32 | Clord | added tons of players to my friend list |
| 12:55.37 | Clord | and told what my friend list thing is too |
| 12:55.38 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:55.44 | Clord | yay... progress |
| 12:56.07 | ubdead | hehe awesome |
| 12:56.15 | ubdead | my tutorial is about fnished |
| 12:56.23 | ubdead | i forgot how much tutorial are lol |
| 12:57.26 | Sevenation | I love taking stuff out of context. :D |
| 12:57.29 | Sevenation | i.e. |
| 12:57.30 | Sevenation | [05:52] <ubdead> seven is awesome |
| 12:57.47 | ubdead | haha ;D |
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| 12:58.12 | Clord | you pedo! |
| 12:58.25 | Clord | ;) |
| 12:58.36 | ubdead | i have been a pedo for a year |
| 12:58.43 | ubdead | my gf was 17 when i was 18 |
| 12:58.52 | ubdead | so makes me a pedo |
| 12:59.07 | athaudia | how so? :P |
| 12:59.16 | ubdead | well my gf was underage |
| 12:59.26 | ubdead | and i was an adult |
| 12:59.37 | ubdead | so yea, according to the law, that makes me a pedo |
| 13:00.14 | Motive | Lol |
| 13:00.17 | Motive | No |
| 13:00.24 | athaudia | nope... pedophiles and sex with underages are different things :P |
| 13:00.30 | Motive | Most states by now have the underage thing, AND a gap of 2-3 years |
| 13:00.42 | Aussie123 | wouldnt that make everyone that has had a girlfriend under 18 a pedo |
| 13:00.42 | athaudia | if she was 7 then it would have been though ;P |
| 13:00.55 | ubdead | Aussie123 yep |
| 13:01.07 | Aussie123 | so im a pedo too? |
| 13:01.11 | ubdead | yep :D |
| 13:01.15 | athaudia | law here is 16 or over is fine, and 14-16 is fine if the gap is 2 years or less ^^ |
| 13:01.17 | Aussie123 | we are all pedo's |
| 13:01.35 | ubdead | xD |
| 13:01.36 | Aussie123 | f |
| 13:01.38 | Aussie123 | omg |
| 13:01.47 | Aussie123 | hurray! my enter key is working |
| 13:01.49 | Aussie123 | no more \ |
| 13:02.04 | ubdead | try holding your keyboard above you head |
| 13:02.06 | ubdead | and shake it |
| 13:02.12 | Aussie123 | why its working now |
| 13:02.20 | ubdead | really, try it |
| 13:02.23 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 13:02.36 | ubdead | my keyboard types way better now |
| 13:02.40 | Helral|Work | and did any keys fall off while shaking? XD |
| 13:03.03 | Helral|Work | ow wait you eat behind the pc? with plenty of cookie crumbles etc. in the keyboard? |
| 13:03.15 | ubdead | hihiih you just found out the hard way didn't you :D |
| 13:03.42 | Aussie123 | i spilt water on the enter key thats what broke it |
| 13:03.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster depthsofchaos (~depthsofc@adsl118.adsl.hungarnet.hu) |
| 13:03.54 | Aussie123 | now its unbroke |
| 13:03.58 | Aussie123 | must have taken 2 days to dry.. |
| 13:04.11 | ubdead | i tipped a cop of coffee last year |
| 13:04.17 | ubdead | it dripped off my table |
| 13:04.19 | Helral|Work | at least it wasn't cola XD |
| 13:04.21 | depthsofchaos | im sad for the "buzz me contest" :o got nice ideas :( |
| 13:04.24 | ubdead | right into my computer fan xDxDxD |
| 13:04.52 | Helral|Work | points and laughs. |
| 13:05.01 | Helral|Work | sry couldn't help myself. |
| 13:05.06 | ubdead | i bought untipple cups after that lol |
| 13:05.08 | Aussie123 | i didnt spill the water tho it was my cat, it jumped on to my desk not knowing there was a huge glass of water there. it headbutted it onto my keyboard :p |
| 13:05.19 | ubdead | hehe i love cats |
| 13:05.23 | ubdead | they cant do anything wrong |
| 13:05.25 | depthsofchaos | id kill that cat |
| 13:05.28 | depthsofchaos | in an instant |
| 13:05.29 | Aussie123 | it fell backwards onto its back |
| 13:05.30 | ubdead | because they look too cute looking like that |
| 13:05.35 | Helral|Work | My brother has had a ruined keyboard cause of a glass of cola. |
| 13:06.04 | ubdead | oh i spill shit all the time over my keyboard |
| 13:06.14 | ubdead | 3 or 4 keyboard a year for me lol |
| 13:06.15 | depthsofchaos | i only ruin keyboards when i rage, but hard to throw the laptop keyboard |
| 13:06.20 | Aussie123 | i was playing my 360 and the cat tried to take the controller off me once :P maybe it wanted a turn |
| 13:06.33 | ubdead | lol so cute |
| 13:06.35 | Aussie123 | used its paws to grab it |
| 13:07.03 | ubdead | i have an acrobate cat on my balcony sometimes |
| 13:07.10 | ubdead | it does this crazy stunts |
| 13:07.20 | ubdead | like stand on his hindleggs on a railing |
| 13:07.40 | depthsofchaos | it want you to kick it off |
| 13:07.40 | Aussie123 | did u have cat food on a long pole? |
| 13:08.08 | ubdead | no lol |
| 13:08.27 | Aussie123 | well then it was trying to go to the moon |
| 13:09.00 | ubdead | maybe he was on catnip lol |
| 13:09.30 | Aussie123 | did u give him alcahol lol? be honest |
| 13:09.38 | Aussie123 | my cats drank alcahol once |
| 13:09.51 | ubdead | nah i quit alcohol myself so no |
| 13:10.07 | Aussie123 | my cat will drink anything |
| 13:10.16 | Aussie123 | i caught him drinking old coffee on the table :p |
| 13:10.25 | ubdead | lol |
| 13:10.26 | depthsofchaos | good cat, easy to poison |
| 13:10.44 | ubdead | hahahaha depthsofchaos im guessing your a dog's person? |
| 13:10.49 | SC2MapsterKitten | stalks depthsofchaos. |
| 13:10.56 | depthsofchaos | I am :p |
| 13:10.59 | Aussie123 | hes always scratching me tho if i try and pet him |
| 13:11.10 | Aussie123 | or bite me |
| 13:11.12 | depthsofchaos | i just find cats useless :p |
| 13:11.23 | depthsofchaos | they just eat and nap all day |
| 13:11.29 | depthsofchaos | and die to my dogs bite |
| 13:11.35 | Aussie123 | my cat likes to stare at my turtles on my desk |
| 13:11.41 | Aussie123 | he will just sit there watching them |
| 13:11.58 | SC2MapsterKitten | someone I know has cats that prevent him from using the pc :P |
| 13:12.19 | depthsofchaos | did they eat the cable? |
| 13:12.30 | SC2MapsterKitten | o they lie down on his keyboard XD |
| 13:12.32 | SC2MapsterKitten | no* |
| 13:13.57 | SC2MapsterKitten | meows |
| 13:14.35 | ubdead | pets |
| 13:14.50 | SC2MapsterKitten | swipes at ubdead's hands thinking he wants to play. |
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| 13:16.38 | ubdead | ask depthsofchaos for poision advice |
| 13:17.07 | SC2MapsterKitten | watches ubdead closely |
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| 13:17.45 | depthsofchaos | suggests to use cian then slice the body and dump it in all continents |
| 13:17.51 | Aussie123 | anyone no how to make a dodgeball ability?? |
| 13:18.20 | depthsofchaos | like that you can catch? |
| 13:18.21 | Aussie123 | like u click D and a soccerball will shoot out of ur unit and bounce off walls and kill anything it touches |
| 13:18.40 | Aussie123 | but dissapears in 2 seconds |
| 13:18.48 | vjeux | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/s2ma-cache/ |
| 13:18.52 | depthsofchaos | that can only be done with ugly triggers |
| 13:19.06 | vjeux | the protection of blizzard isn't that great |
| 13:19.34 | *** join/#sc2mapster locutus_ (4681f05f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.129.240.95) |
| 13:19.52 | depthsofchaos | heh but still its time consuming to break :p |
| 13:20.17 | depthsofchaos | well i can always delete my cache folder |
| 13:20.27 | SC2MapsterKitten | vjeux: hehehe, maybe combine that program with a call to sc2 so you can play maps singleplayer :P |
| 13:20.47 | vjeux | if they guy copy all the maps renamed |
| 13:20.56 | vjeux | it's piece of shit to copy them |
| 13:21.42 | vjeux | when you protect the map, the trigger xml are being deleted |
| 13:22.49 | depthsofchaos | so this works for locked maps too? |
| 13:22.55 | depthsofchaos | O.o |
| 13:22.55 | vjeux | yes |
| 13:23.06 | depthsofchaos | hilarious |
| 13:23.12 | ubdead | ~spell self-expletory |
| 13:23.26 | ubdead | ~spell self expletory |
| 13:23.32 | vjeux | ~spell vjeux |
| 13:23.33 | ubdead | IT IS ONE WORD |
| 13:23.44 | ubdead | Jew's |
| 13:23.45 | SC2MapsterKitten | lol |
| 13:23.46 | ubdead | sure |
| 13:23.47 | depthsofchaos | Jew's Vega xD |
| 13:23.51 | vjeux | :p |
| 13:23.56 | ubdead | ~dict self-expletory |
| 13:24.04 | ubdead | well fuck you purl |
| 13:24.08 | SC2MapsterKitten | ~dict helral |
| 13:24.11 | SC2MapsterKitten | :P |
| 13:24.14 | depthsofchaos | ~dict self-explanatory |
| 13:24.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ambusher (5e923e10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.146.62.16) |
| 13:24.32 | Ambusher | hello all. |
| 13:24.42 | vjeux | hey |
| 13:24.43 | SC2MapsterKitten | runs away (like a scared cat) |
| 13:24.44 | Ambusher | Hmm got a pretty dum question...! |
| 13:24.54 | ubdead | amuse us |
| 13:24.57 | SC2MapsterKitten | doesn't want to get ambushed. |
| 13:25.00 | Ambusher | How the heck do i install maps to SCII? ^^ |
| 13:25.09 | ubdead | depthsofchaos also thanks lol |
| 13:25.13 | SC2MapsterKitten | to play single player? |
| 13:25.24 | Ambusher | Hmm well i want to play multiplayer with a friend |
| 13:25.30 | ubdead | Ambusher it's impossible for multiplayer |
| 13:25.37 | Ambusher | O_O |
| 13:25.41 | Ambusher | wtf`? |
| 13:25.43 | ubdead | well, you could upload the map yourself |
| 13:25.48 | ubdead | if it's not protected |
| 13:25.48 | SC2MapsterKitten | go find it in the published list. or ask the mapmaker to publish it in your region. |
| 13:26.11 | Clord | ~dict dick |
| 13:26.26 | Ambusher | i dont understand why they not just dident make the "Maps" folder -,- |
| 13:26.44 | SC2MapsterKitten | Ambusher: same reason why there is no lan support. |
| 13:27.02 | Clord | there is lan support but only for tournaments ;) lol |
| 13:27.04 | ubdead | and why there's no chat channels |
| 13:27.07 | Clord | I guess |
| 13:27.19 | Ambusher | yerh exactly. that's just lame |
| 13:27.24 | depthsofchaos | on a tournament id rather play with the ping im used to :o |
| 13:27.29 | Ambusher | you NEED internet in order to play lan -,- |
| 13:27.37 | vjeux | Clord: is your map locked? |
| 13:27.51 | SC2MapsterKitten | I'll be at a LAN in a few weeks where there is no internet. |
| 13:28.07 | depthsofchaos | your fault!!! |
| 13:28.33 | Clord | vjeux... take I guess... =) |
| 13:28.34 | Ambusher | that realy suck big time ass |
| 13:28.40 | Clord | a |
| 13:28.41 | Clord | XD |
| 13:28.54 | depthsofchaos | mines locked too |
| 13:29.02 | vjeux | what's yours depthsofchaos again? |
| 13:29.03 | depthsofchaos | but dont know why this guy released this |
| 13:29.08 | depthsofchaos | netstorm |
| 13:29.14 | vjeux | haven't played it yet |
| 13:29.20 | r9k | depthofchaos |
| 13:29.24 | depthsofchaos | you should delete this program from the site tbh :o |
| 13:29.27 | r9k | are you going to release on NA servers |
| 13:29.31 | Ambusher | Pretty ridicules that they dident make lan support and the maps folder! |
| 13:29.37 | Clord | my THE Card Game is indeed locked but that's only so not every stranger in Bnet open, edit and publish it |
| 13:29.48 | depthsofchaos | r9k yes i want to but its unbalanced right now |
| 13:29.52 | ubdead | i should actually make a map sometimes lol |
| 13:29.57 | depthsofchaos | gota do some testing before |
| 13:30.01 | r9k | ok |
| 13:30.09 | r9k | looking forward to it |
| 13:30.18 | depthsofchaos | but im on page 99 so no testing yet xD |
| 13:30.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Entos (62eb8c37@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.235.140.55) |
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| 13:30.56 | Clord | I wonder what that removed contest was |
| 13:31.14 | depthsofchaos | to make fake maps that gain popularity |
| 13:31.25 | r9k | Release it on Na and we will test it on a map night |
| 13:31.36 | Entos | Hello? |
| 13:31.48 | SC2MapsterKitten | ?olleH |
| 13:32.11 | Entos | I came here with need of help with the sc2 editor.. |
| 13:32.12 | depthsofchaos | hmm k nice ill consider |
| 13:32.27 | ubdead | Hello Entos |
| 13:32.33 | Entos | Hey, |
| 13:32.40 | ubdead | you might want to start asking questions then ;) |
| 13:32.40 | depthsofchaos | i wanted to make a map for the contest with metaphoras about blizzard :o |
| 13:32.46 | depthsofchaos | they couldnt have banned me |
| 13:32.57 | Entos | umm the data-triggers really confuse me at parts, |
| 13:33.02 | SC2MapsterKitten | "All our employees are currently busy, please hold". *roflol* |
| 13:33.15 | Clord | Revenge of the Michael Jackson, forces of the dancing damned |
| 13:33.17 | Clord | ^^ |
| 13:33.20 | ubdead | depthsofchaos blizzard will DEVOUR YOUR SOUL |
| 13:33.29 | depthsofchaos | i wanted to use the hybrids |
| 13:33.32 | SC2MapsterKitten | what you trying to do Entos? |
| 13:33.40 | depthsofchaos | hybrids = activision blizzard |
| 13:33.44 | depthsofchaos | evil abominations |
| 13:33.51 | Clord | btw |
| 13:33.52 | ubdead | lol |
| 13:33.53 | Entos | i try to even do stuff but sometimes a object isnt there, or i dont know what to do exactly. |
| 13:34.01 | Clord | real name of hybrids is.. Xel'naga Viper |
| 13:34.02 | Clord | ^^ |
| 13:34.14 | Clord | at least so files say |
| 13:34.38 | depthsofchaos | well the hybrids were created by humans |
| 13:34.44 | depthsofchaos | they cant be xel naga |
| 13:34.58 | depthsofchaos | spoiler :p |
| 13:35.11 | Entos | like i try to connect a camera to a area, but when i try i cant, how couldnt i? |
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| 13:35.17 | Entos | i tried everything |
| 13:35.22 | Clord | their dds files call them Xel'Naga Viper ^^ |
| 13:35.36 | Clord | also you guys gotta hurry to play that campaign if still unfinished |
| 13:35.56 | ubdead | Entos i have no clue about camera's |
| 13:35.56 | athaudia | i'm taking my time :( |
| 13:36.04 | depthsofchaos | Entos, what command are you using? |
| 13:36.07 | Entos | Seriously?? |
| 13:36.29 | ubdead | Entos well lots of people in here should have a big clue |
| 13:36.46 | ubdead | Clord spoilerssssssssssssssss |
| 13:36.57 | ubdead | im like at mission 8 lol |
| 13:36.59 | SC2MapsterKitten | Entos: there is a pan camera to location action I think you want to use that. |
| 13:37.07 | Clord | lol |
| 13:37.27 | depthsofchaos | anyone remembers jim raynors middle name ?xD |
| 13:37.28 | Entos | i aint talking about MOVING the camera. |
| 13:37.46 | SC2MapsterKitten | what then? |
| 13:37.47 | Entos | im saying how i connect a camera to a area, |
| 13:37.50 | depthsofchaos | then tell clearly what you want sir -.- |
| 13:38.00 | SC2MapsterKitten | go to the Terrain Editor |
| 13:38.02 | depthsofchaos | region? |
| 13:38.05 | SC2MapsterKitten | go to Camera layer. |
| 13:38.06 | Entos | that is the thing i REALLY dont know how to do |
| 13:38.07 | Clord | Jin "Hairdo" Raynor |
| 13:38.09 | Clord | ^^ |
| 13:38.11 | Clord | Jim |
| 13:38.14 | SC2MapsterKitten | create the camera when hovering over the area. |
| 13:38.24 | SC2MapsterKitten | you mean something like that? |
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| 13:38.28 | Clord | nah |
| 13:38.29 | Entos | not that, |
| 13:38.36 | Clord | more like Jim "Drunkard" Raynor |
| 13:38.46 | depthsofchaos | no he actually has one |
| 13:38.52 | Entos | its like connecting a camera to a region, |
| 13:38.52 | depthsofchaos | they tell it in the secret mission |
| 13:39.27 | SC2MapsterKitten | what are you using the region for |
| 13:39.27 | athaudia | James "Jim" Eugene[5] Raynor <-- says wiki |
| 13:39.29 | SC2MapsterKitten | ?* |
| 13:39.50 | Entos | to be the way the camera can move but not freely, |
| 13:40.00 | depthsofchaos | hehe i guess thats it |
| 13:40.10 | SC2MapsterKitten | you want to restrict the camera to a region? |
| 13:40.11 | Entos | heck i dont make sense, |
| 13:40.16 | Entos | yeah, |
| 13:40.27 | SC2MapsterKitten | set camera bounds to region |
| 13:40.36 | Entos | oh |
| 13:40.42 | SC2MapsterKitten | exclude minimap. or include, if needed. |
| 13:40.46 | Entos | but one last thing |
| 13:41.11 | Entos | how do i make the region MOVE, and change how a character move by hitting WSAD |
| 13:41.24 | Entos | both together, |
| 13:41.54 | Entos | i mean both of the region and character move exactly together without the camera going freely |
| 13:42.12 | Entos | i am sorry i dont make sence, |
| 13:42.17 | depthsofchaos | you dont :o |
| 13:42.24 | SC2MapsterKitten | Entos: you want the camera to be bound so you always follow an unit? |
| 13:42.31 | Entos | Yes, |
| 13:42.38 | SC2MapsterKitten | but still allow the camera to be moved around to view the unit from different directions? |
| 13:42.47 | Entos | YES |
| 13:42.52 | SC2MapsterKitten | make camera follow unit. |
| 13:43.01 | Entos | *facepalm* |
| 13:43.06 | Entos | oh |
| 13:43.17 | Entos | well one last thing before i leave |
| 13:43.17 | SC2MapsterKitten | there's an action that supports that. |
| 13:43.31 | SC2MapsterKitten | shoot. |
| 13:43.36 | Entos | how do i make a unit move with WSAD and shoot with Space? |
| 13:43.59 | SC2MapsterKitten | wasd movement, see libraries at sc2mapster, or tutorials there. plenty of info already listed. |
| 13:44.09 | SC2MapsterKitten | and shoot with space is something like: |
| 13:45.04 | SC2MapsterKitten | Event: key pressed event (key: space), Actions: Issue Order to Unit (Order = Shoot ability) (Unit = Unit being followed by the camera) |
| 13:45.20 | Entos | oh Thanks! |
| 13:45.33 | Entos | well seeya till i need another question |
| 13:46.00 | SC2MapsterKitten | [15:45] <Entos> well seeya till i need another question <-- next time he returns he wants questions, not answers. |
| 13:46.10 | SC2MapsterKitten | lol |
| 13:46.11 | Dinoo | <athaudia> James "Jim" Eugene[5] Raynor <-- says wiki << Matt in the campaign says that too |
| 13:46.22 | Dinoo | oops, says that in the campaign* ^^' |
| 13:46.42 | athaudia | i haven't yet played the campaign really ^^ |
| 13:46.53 | depthsofchaos | i love the editor you cant rename upgrades or your map crashes -.- |
| 13:47.11 | SC2MapsterKitten | love it how they listed that as a known bug. |
| 13:47.30 | depthsofchaos | that has been around since weeks :o |
| 13:48.19 | SC2MapsterKitten | Changing certain values in the Galaxy Editor is causing a crash while in detail view. <-- how it's listed in the known issues. |
| 13:48.57 | depthsofchaos | hehe way to warn the users |
| 13:48.57 | SC2MapsterKitten | *certain values* <-- that's really ........ specific.... |
| 13:49.08 | depthsofchaos | known solutions: dont change any values |
| 13:49.25 | SC2MapsterKitten | None at the moment. <-- they're honest. |
| 13:49.32 | Motive | Bahahaha |
| 13:49.39 | Motive | http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2169/screenshot2010080209382.jpg |
| 13:49.44 | Motive | RPG-style camera for Roleplaying maps. :) |
| 13:49.55 | Motive | Nothing new or gamechanging but meh |
| 13:50.29 | art[] | looks like somebody just zoomed in |
| 13:50.30 | SC2MapsterKitten | who made that map? |
| 13:50.49 | Motive | I rotated it a bit back |
| 13:50.57 | Motive | so the boss bar wouldn't cover the medivacs |
| 13:51.04 | SC2MapsterKitten | whoever made that map should remove the Hero Panel, it looks awful without the default game UI. |
| 13:51.16 | Motive | Yeah I'll remove the hero panel |
| 13:51.25 | Motive | it's not needed anyways |
| 13:51.26 | Motive | the mouse is disabled |
| 13:51.27 | Motive | xD |
| 13:52.37 | vjeux | k Clord i can open your map but can't see the triggers |
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| 13:54.15 | ubdead | vjeux you should consider have map cracking stuff on your site |
| 13:54.27 | vjeux | map cracking? |
| 13:54.31 | ubdead | because i can remember sc2mapster being conform to the blizzard policy stuff |
| 13:54.56 | Sevenation | ~seen Rodrigo |
| 13:54.58 | purl | rodrigo <cf06e61b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.6.230.27> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1h 21m 34s ago, saying: 'bye'. |
| 13:55.02 | ubdead | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/s2ma-cache/ |
| 13:55.05 | ubdead | this stuff |
| 13:55.21 | ubdead | is for anti-lock-map purpose is it not :P? |
| 13:55.27 | depthsofchaos | ye should be made private or something |
| 13:55.42 | ElemenoSC | anyone know a way to let AI control an allied players units? |
| 13:55.44 | depthsofchaos | dont think anyone want his locked map open |
| 13:56.11 | ubdead | About SC2Mapster |
| 13:56.11 | ubdead | (...) |
| 13:56.11 | ubdead | We operate strictly within Blizzard's Terms of Service. |
| 13:56.51 | ubdead | that would including map unlucking i guess (not trying to be a smart ass here) |
| 13:57.47 | vjeux | well, we host nin exporter stuff |
| 13:57.53 | vjeux | which breaks the tos |
| 13:58.23 | ubdead | oh well im just saying |
| 13:58.39 | vjeux | i don't know yet what to do with it |
| 13:58.40 | ubdead | also i love the anti-block td thing by sevenation! |
| 13:58.45 | ubdead | looks really good |
| 13:58.53 | vjeux | anyway, the map locking is a dream |
| 13:59.05 | vjeux | there won't ever be any that works |
| 13:59.13 | ubdead | ROFL @ pokemon |
| 13:59.27 | ubdead | HOW AWESOME IS THAT |
| 13:59.55 | ubdead | 38dedo is now my hero |
| 14:00.11 | depthsofchaos | still map locking is too simple to break like this |
| 14:00.28 | vjeux | well, all triggers are gone |
| 14:00.38 | vjeux | so it makes life harder to republish |
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| 14:00.54 | ubdead | yea it might keep the noobs off at least |
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| 14:00.55 | depthsofchaos | just the names, no? |
| 14:01.38 | Ashamed | yah |
| 14:02.01 | vjeux | well, the popularity system makes it harder to do that |
| 14:02.10 | vjeux | since the noob map is going to be all way at the bottom |
| 14:02.11 | Clord | people steal maps when they are bad mappers, so they highly unlikely figure out to break simple protection |
| 14:02.35 | Clord | anyways XD |
| 14:02.42 | depthsofchaos | well but anyone can run a program |
| 14:03.42 | Clord | I opened nexus wars EU version and triggers was gone ;) |
| 14:03.47 | Clord | and when I tried open script |
| 14:03.48 | Clord | lol |
| 14:03.50 | Clord | crash |
| 14:03.52 | Clord | and report to blizzard |
| 14:04.04 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/mapping-utilities/third-party-tools/963-m3-exporter/?post=333 |
| 14:04.13 | vjeux | yeah it crashed too :p |
| 14:04.56 | depthsofchaos | those are really coool:/ |
| 14:05.02 | vjeux | 5082 threads and 28862 posts on mapster forums |
| 14:05.05 | vjeux | that's huge |
| 14:05.19 | depthsofchaos | i guess ill install wow just for the models xd |
| 14:05.30 | depthsofchaos | nice |
| 14:05.33 | SD|GhosT | quick, probobly stupid question. i have start points placed, but when i start it up my camera is in the lower left corner. do i just need to script it to move the camera? |
| 14:05.45 | ubdead | sc2mapster is the biggest sc2 mapping community right right? |
| 14:05.53 | Sevenation | probably |
| 14:06.00 | ubdead | SD|GhosT is your map a melee map? |
| 14:06.06 | SD|GhosT | no |
| 14:06.16 | vjeux | ubdead: yeah |
| 14:06.24 | vjeux | and it's even one of the biggest sc2 website |
| 14:06.30 | ubdead | then i'd recommend using a For Each Player loop, together with a Pan Camera action SD|GhosT |
| 14:06.37 | ubdead | vjeux nice man ;) |
| 14:06.43 | SD|GhosT | ubdead: thanks |
| 14:07.15 | vjeux | http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=r&b=ffffff&n=666666&r=1m&u=sc2mapster.com&&u=sc2armory.com&u=sclegacy.com& |
| 14:07.25 | vjeux | teamliquid is WAY ahead of us |
| 14:07.32 | vjeux | if you know any other big sc website |
| 14:07.35 | vjeux | please let me know |
| 14:07.49 | ubdead | well yea, teamliquid is like as old as the dinosaurs |
| 14:07.57 | ubdead | and it's more then just starcraft |
| 14:08.12 | depthsofchaos | and its not for mappers :o |
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| 14:09.25 | ubdead | also |
| 14:09.29 | ubdead | this IRC channel |
| 14:09.32 | ubdead | is so valuable |
| 14:09.40 | ubdead | when i first joined |
| 14:09.40 | vjeux | omg sc2mapster is #5 for "Starcraft 2" |
| 14:09.47 | ubdead | when the map editor just got out |
| 14:09.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (~zoxc@ti0128a340-dhcp0032.bb.online.no) |
| 14:09.57 | ubdead | i was like, might as well join the channel |
| 14:10.02 | ubdead | but it's awesome |
| 14:10.14 | SD|GhosT | ubdead: i have to agree everyone has been very helpful! hope to give back soonish myself! |
| 14:10.40 | ubdead | hehe i try not to ignore the easy questions |
| 14:10.47 | ubdead | because i was a noob myself in the beginnning ;) |
| 14:10.57 | AsaPhelps | and you still are young padawan |
| 14:11.15 | ubdead | pfff is this a MAPDOWN? |
| 14:11.22 | ubdead | its ONN |
| 14:11.53 | depthsofchaos | hmm i think ill have to rename my map cause of copyright shit -.- |
| 14:11.59 | depthsofchaos | so i wont be baned |
| 14:12.01 | depthsofchaos | lame |
| 14:12.12 | ubdead | i put "shizzle" in the description |
| 14:12.15 | Ashamed | no way |
| 14:12.16 | ubdead | and it got denied lol |
| 14:12.23 | Ashamed | depth what is your maps name? |
| 14:12.29 | depthsofchaos | netstorm |
| 14:12.44 | depthsofchaos | its a remake |
| 14:12.47 | Ashamed | did you use models? |
| 14:12.55 | depthsofchaos | no |
| 14:13.00 | vjeux | http://star2pros.com/?hop=wmmedia |
| 14:13.01 | vjeux | lol |
| 14:13.04 | depthsofchaos | models from the game you mean? |
| 14:13.07 | Ashamed | you will be fine.... |
| 14:13.24 | ubdead | vjeux i saw one of those "HOW TO WIN YOUR EX BACK IN 3 DAYS" |
| 14:13.32 | Ashamed | lol |
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| 14:14.00 | depthsofchaos | Ashamed, they baned a guy for having badass in his map |
| 14:14.03 | ubdead | http://www.magicofmakingup.com/?hop=jryandales |
| 14:14.12 | Ashamed | badass is a bad word?? |
| 14:14.13 | depthsofchaos | well not baned but removed publishing rights |
| 14:14.16 | ubdead | Retail Price $99 SALE Only $39 |
| 14:14.21 | ubdead | THATS CHEAPER THEN A HOOKER |
| 14:14.39 | ubdead | those people really have no consience |
| 14:15.04 | Ashamed | and where did you find out about that depth?? |
| 14:15.05 | ubdead | taking advantage of hearthbroken people |
| 14:15.09 | Ashamed | in the grapevine????? |
| 14:15.24 | ubdead | lol stumbleupon gave it to me |
| 14:15.27 | depthsofchaos | Its newsed on mapster :o |
| 14:15.35 | Ashamed | link it |
| 14:15.56 | depthsofchaos | sc2mapster.com |
| 14:16.03 | Ashamed | lol |
| 14:16.07 | Ashamed | find the page -.- |
| 14:16.08 | depthsofchaos | first post :o |
| 14:16.12 | Ashamed | oh |
| 14:16.12 | Ashamed | ok |
| 14:16.14 | Ashamed | i will look |
| 14:16.17 | Ashamed | i have not been on the site today |
| 14:16.47 | depthsofchaos | now imdesperately renaming my map -.- |
| 14:17.21 | ubdead | hey |
| 14:17.30 | ubdead | i totaly missed out on the buzz me contest |
| 14:17.34 | ubdead | what was it about? |
| 14:17.53 | depthsofchaos | making a blizzard employee reply a bug report |
| 14:17.54 | vjeux | make a fake map |
| 14:18.10 | vjeux | and get it as high as possible in the populairty syste |
| 14:18.32 | depthsofchaos | vjeux it wouldnt have to mean that you post offensive stuff tho |
| 14:18.34 | ubdead | HAHA thats a bad idea yea |
| 14:18.40 | depthsofchaos | you cant be baned for having a bad map |
| 14:18.52 | vjeux | well, it was fun |
| 14:19.02 | vjeux | but still i don't want people to get in trouble because of that |
| 14:21.01 | SD|GhosT | so I'm working on that script, for each player (var) , how do I create an new var to hold the player number? |
| 14:21.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster Armikur (~Armikur@c-98-226-158-79.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 14:21.17 | ubdead | press ctrl+b |
| 14:21.27 | SD|GhosT | son of a. thanks |
| 14:21.32 | r9k | vjeux, views are broken on the forum |
| 14:21.42 | Armikur | Can someone point me to a very basic "making your first melee map" type tutorial? I haven't messed with mapping since early SC days |
| 14:22.16 | vjeux | r9k: yup, waiting for the devs to be up to bug them about that |
| 14:22.16 | vjeux | thanks |
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| 14:22.43 | ubdead | start here Armikur http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/ |
| 14:22.59 | Armikur | tyvm |
| 14:23.06 | ubdead | here's a nice overview: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/ |
| 14:23.59 | r9k | At the moment, is there a working editor, or trick, that allows me to completely code in galaxy ? |
| 14:24.31 | r9k | Sparsile Alpha 2 doesnt work with current GE |
| 14:24.35 | vjeux | there are some tricks |
| 14:24.40 | vjeux | but it is so painful to work with |
| 14:24.49 | r9k | Ok, Ill wait I guess |
| 14:25.06 | nicoli_s | r9k:we hope to release MWE soon for testing, and it can code in just galaxy |
| 14:25.20 | nicoli_s | also, check out moonlight, it might not be 100% working though, havent tested it myself |
| 14:25.27 | ubdead | oh fancy new editor? |
| 14:25.38 | r9k | I tried the version on sc2mapster and it didnt work, and repository was empty |
| 14:25.59 | r9k | (MWE) |
| 14:26.38 | nicoli_s | r9k:the repo isnt empty |
| 14:26.45 | nicoli_s | its just locked down to authenticated users |
| 14:26.49 | depthsofchaos | anyone got a good alternative name idea for 'netstorm'? |
| 14:26.49 | nicoli_s | and yeah the version up is oooold |
| 14:27.17 | ubdead | how about, linkwars |
| 14:27.25 | SD|GhosT | Ctrl+F11, now thats my kinda script editor lol |
| 14:27.28 | depthsofchaos | :o i said good |
| 14:27.41 | ubdead | FINE |
| 14:28.15 | r9k | ok, could you put read access to anonymous or you want the project private? |
| 14:28.32 | Clord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4mnmerKgds |
| 14:28.52 | nicoli_s | r9k:we have it private for now on purpouse |
| 14:28.53 | depthsofchaos | i brokeyour map clord |
| 14:29.07 | r9k | Ok no problem about that |
| 14:29.08 | nicoli_s | we will probably release the source once we make our first big after retail release |
| 14:29.28 | r9k | nicoli_s werent you on #sc2c |
| 14:29.34 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 14:29.40 | depthsofchaos | if i click fast enough on a card it performs the action twice, clord |
| 14:29.49 | depthsofchaos | or even 3 times |
| 14:30.03 | depthsofchaos | thats how i win every game xD |
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| 14:31.12 | ubdead | hahaha cheater |
| 14:31.57 | depthsofchaos | what? hwo should i know its not a feature :P |
| 14:32.14 | Clord | I guessed someone would find it sooner or later |
| 14:32.18 | Clord | thankfully I have easy fix for that |
| 14:32.27 | Clord | after card is clicked... it's vespene cost goes to 1000000 |
| 14:32.28 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:32.43 | depthsofchaos | dont fix it ffs |
| 14:33.07 | depthsofchaos | only i know it xD |
| 14:33.50 | Clord | lol |
| 14:33.53 | depthsofchaos | btw clord whats the bigest exp possible on your map ?:p |
| 14:34.08 | AsaPhelps | I just played like my first total fail map |
| 14:35.15 | depthsofchaos | ok lets try 9 billion |
| 14:36.29 | Clord | it has no cap other than how much integer allows |
| 14:36.30 | Clord | lol |
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| 14:37.07 | Clord | anyways |
| 14:37.11 | Clord | that bug is now stomped |
| 14:37.32 | depthsofchaos | what about free cards? |
| 14:37.36 | depthsofchaos | like the nuke and |
| 14:37.38 | depthsofchaos | stuff |
| 14:37.59 | depthsofchaos | or those cost is just 0?:o |
| 14:38.17 | Clord | no matter what card it is.... it makes it so expensive after used that you can't click many times anyways |
| 14:38.18 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:38.29 | Clord | no matter if card is originally free |
| 14:38.39 | depthsofchaos | k |
| 14:38.57 | Clord | yeah and about free cards.... lol... their vespene cost is just set to 0 ^^ |
| 14:39.01 | Clord | so map knows those are free |
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| 14:39.09 | ubdead | argh why are there so many pretty girls |
| 14:39.17 | ubdead | how am i supposed to date them all |
| 14:40.14 | Clord | I have also planned to add civilians as cards but oh well |
| 14:40.19 | Clord | they would have some special purpose |
| 14:40.43 | depthsofchaos | well i dont rly get why some units own the others |
| 14:40.49 | depthsofchaos | like the roach one hits some stuff |
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| 14:45.13 | AsaPhelps | whats the best way to give control of a unit to anyone |
| 14:45.24 | AsaPhelps | like everyone on a team shares control of one unit |
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| 14:47.08 | SD|GhosT | How do you make an AI Player allied to the Players? I have them set as allies in the Team Manager but they show up hostle in-game |
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| 14:47.10 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 14:49.16 | PoC | is TStory01.SC2Map rayjoe's bar and stuff? |
| 14:52.57 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o nicoli_s] by ChanServ |
| 14:55.08 | ubdead | AsaPhelps give a Interaction behavior |
| 14:55.15 | ubdead | and set the flag to "share control" |
| 14:55.23 | ubdead | oh wait |
| 14:55.27 | ubdead | it's not a behavior |
| 14:55.31 | ubdead | it's an ability |
| 14:55.36 | ubdead | also, put it on autocast |
| 14:58.09 | SC2MapsterKitten | waves paw at everyone |
| 14:58.12 | SC2MapsterKitten | cya later all |
| 14:58.20 | ubdead | cya |
| 14:59.00 | Vailreth | hello every one |
| 14:59.18 | ubdead | ello |
| 15:00.05 | ElemenoSC | is game variants still bugged or am i doing something wrong cause its always failing to transmit header when i publish unless i dont have a variants |
| 15:02.48 | ubdead | ElemenoSC im justabout to finish a 6000 word tutorial on it |
| 15:02.54 | ubdead | so hold on a second |
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| 15:07.25 | SD|GhosT | anyone know how to have a computer player allied with the humans? |
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| 15:10.43 | r9k | trigger |
| 15:10.54 | r9k | look for alliance |
| 15:10.57 | SD|GhosT | ok, i'm in it, but i dont see anything for ally |
| 15:11.05 | SD|GhosT | or alliance |
| 15:11.13 | r9k | Int in "Player" I think |
| 15:11.16 | r9k | its* |
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| 15:11.38 | SD|GhosT | so apparently i cant trust the find then |
| 15:11.42 | SD|GhosT | Set Alliance |
| 15:11.54 | SD|GhosT | yet no results for Alliance when i typed it in find -_- |
| 15:11.58 | SD|GhosT | Thanks 39k |
| 15:12.01 | AsaPhelps | is there an easy way to fix maps broken by phase 2 |
| 15:12.01 | SD|GhosT | err r9k |
| 15:12.04 | r9k | np |
| 15:13.17 | ubdead | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ ElemenoSC |
| 15:13.32 | ElemenoSC | thx |
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| 15:14.10 | Aussie123 | is vortex or wormhole the cool thing that sux units in |
| 15:14.19 | Aussie123 | wormhole? |
| 15:14.34 | Aussie123 | sucks* |
| 15:14.40 | ubdead | hey vjeux my tut is done |
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| 15:14.45 | ubdead | well for now |
| 15:14.52 | vjeux | woot! |
| 15:14.58 | SD|GhosT | anyone know if you can do a for loop, and if so the syntax? getting an error with for(int i = 1;i <8;i++) |
| 15:15.01 | vjeux | link plz |
| 15:15.03 | Aussie123 | wormhole? |
| 15:15.04 | ubdead | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ |
| 15:15.05 | Aussie123 | vortex? |
| 15:15.16 | vjeux | SD|GhosT: there is no for loop in galaxy :p |
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| 15:15.43 | SD|GhosT | noooo lol |
| 15:15.48 | vjeux | yes :p |
| 15:15.52 | SD|GhosT | vjeux: doh, thanks |
| 15:16.10 | SD|GhosT | was going to do a for loop with a for loop to init the alliances |
| 15:16.17 | ubdead | Aussie123 it's the vortex |
| 15:16.23 | Aussie123 | k |
| 15:16.24 | ubdead | mothership ability |
| 15:16.26 | SD|GhosT | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.26 | SD|GhosT | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.26 | SD|GhosT | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.26 | SD|GhosT | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.30 | SD|GhosT | so much cleaner that way :-( |
| 15:16.52 | ubdead | SD|GhosT use constants you ugly programmer |
| 15:17.03 | SD|GhosT | huh? |
| 15:17.15 | ubdead | CONST MAX_PLAYERS = 8 |
| 15:17.24 | ubdead | for(int i = 1;i < MAX_PLAYERS ;i++){ |
| 15:17.31 | SD|GhosT | considering for loops dont exist its moot. |
| 15:17.38 | SD|GhosT | step 1) get it to work :-p |
| 15:17.43 | ubdead | lol ^_^ |
| 15:17.44 | SD|GhosT | step 2) replace magic numbers |
| 15:17.59 | ubdead | nah i'ts step 1) replace magic numbers |
| 15:18.02 | SD|GhosT | lol |
| 15:20.35 | SD|GhosT | awww come on blizzard "Error: Operators ++ and -- are unsupported" |
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| 15:22.10 | Dogmai | you can do modify variable |
| 15:22.16 | Dogmai | i still do $x=$x+1 |
| 15:22.20 | Dogmai | cause they dont have $x++ |
| 15:22.27 | SD|GhosT | yeah i know :-( |
| 15:22.31 | SD|GhosT | just... annoying lol |
| 15:24.08 | Dogmai | at least blizzard had the sense to make Xcolor.dds |
| 15:25.46 | r9k | Use While |
| 15:26.00 | SD|GhosT | did, although i just lost it all |
| 15:26.08 | SD|GhosT | hit save, but when i re-oppened my code was gone |
| 15:26.13 | r9k | oh |
| 15:26.25 | r9k | create a trigger and use Custom Script Action |
| 15:26.29 | r9k | code editor is broken |
| 15:26.41 | SD|GhosT | oh, joy. |
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| 15:33.51 | Armikur | I have two different bodies of water, how do I select one vs the other to change its properties? |
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| 15:34.50 | ubdead | Armikur yea thats a bitch, tell me when you find out |
| 15:35.16 | Armikur | lol ok |
| 15:36.06 | Armikur | actually i found something under Data Viewer -> Data Type -> Water, I can mess with the parameters there but I can't delete one, or at least haven't figured out how to yet |
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| 15:41.51 | Aussie123 | where do you change the nukes damage? ive looked everywhere |
| 15:42.22 | AsaPhelps | in its damage? |
| 15:43.08 | AsaPhelps | ghost nuke damage, combat - amount |
| 15:45.51 | Armikur | how do i make water impassable? |
| 15:46.05 | ubdead | remove the pathing |
| 15:47.24 | Armikur | is there a way to maket he game be dynamic about it? how about letting things go into the water and having it damage them? (i.e. lava) |
| 15:47.38 | ubdead | that would be a region |
| 15:47.48 | ubdead | and check for units in that region with a trigger |
| 15:47.56 | ubdead | and give them a behavior |
| 15:48.01 | Armikur | so i can't just pain lava and be like... hey starcraft be smart about this ok? |
| 15:48.01 | ubdead | that damages them |
| 15:48.06 | Armikur | *paint |
| 15:48.07 | ubdead | nope lol |
| 15:48.15 | Armikur | heheh k |
| 15:48.21 | ubdead | but it shouldn't be that hard :) |
| 15:48.25 | AsaPhelps | look at the campaign map with lava rising |
| 15:48.36 | Aussie123 | still cant find it |
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| 15:49.52 | Dogmai | i think i just made a loop too long, wouldn't compile |
| 15:50.00 | ubdead | Aussie123 http://i31.tinypic.com/bfksjs.png |
| 15:50.45 | Armikur | will a melee map use all the pathing and triggers? |
| 15:50.49 | Armikur | i'm very new at this sorry |
| 15:51.05 | ubdead | well a melee map is basicly ONLY terrain |
| 15:51.12 | ubdead | you cant change triggers |
| 15:51.26 | ubdead | if you change triggers, it becomes a custom map |
| 15:52.04 | Jum-Jum | it says when you save the map |
| 15:52.10 | Jum-Jum | like "is a custom map because: " |
| 15:52.50 | Armikur | ok so the only way to limit the movement is to use cliffs then? |
| 15:53.07 | ubdead | i guess yea |
| 15:53.09 | AsaPhelps | anyone know how to change the model of creep? |
| 15:53.12 | ubdead | doodads |
| 15:53.24 | depthsofchaos | paint pathing |
| 15:53.25 | Armikur | I imported an old map and it took the open space background on the space platform tileset and just made it normal ground |
| 15:53.43 | Armikur | paint pathing works for melee maps? |
| 15:53.52 | depthsofchaos | try it? |
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| 15:55.51 | AsaPhelps | were you talking to me ub? |
| 15:55.57 | ubdead | AsaPhelps no |
| 15:56.27 | ubdead | you could try Gameplay Data -> Default SC2 Gameplay Settings |
| 15:56.33 | ubdead | i think that has some creep settings |
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| 16:00.18 | AsaPhelps | someone told me once, I think it relates to texture sets |
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| 16:00.54 | ubdead | oh thats Terrain Texture Sets |
| 16:01.00 | ubdead | ye i see it |
| 16:01.03 | ubdead | Creep Settings + |
| 16:01.08 | ubdead | Creep Texture |
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| 16:04.46 | Dogmai | sup sup ubdead |
| 16:04.51 | Dogmai | miss you baby <3 |
| 16:05.18 | ubdead | lolwat |
| 16:05.26 | AsaPhelps | wow i changed it and its all white, not what I wanted but it looks amazing for snow |
| 16:05.35 | ubdead | hehe :D |
| 16:05.47 | ubdead | add some Bloom to it |
| 16:05.53 | ubdead | that would be awesome snow |
| 16:06.00 | ubdead | or kinda misty |
| 16:06.04 | AsaPhelps | how do you add bloom |
| 16:06.17 | ubdead | lots of ways |
| 16:06.31 | ubdead | however i was planning on doing some actual work on my own map right now lol |
| 16:07.17 | AsaPhelps | well tell me 2 ways |
| 16:07.56 | ubdead | events/models |
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| 16:08.53 | Dogmai | what are you making |
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| 16:10.22 | SD|GhosT | should i be concerned if libLbrt_gt_MeleeSurrender_Surrender_Func keeps getting called? |
| 16:10.25 | ubdead | kind of space corporations war |
| 16:12.39 | AsaPhelps | can textures be anything |
| 16:12.43 | AsaPhelps | format |
| 16:12.47 | AsaPhelps | .dds .jpg etc etc |
| 16:13.47 | ubdead | no clue |
| 16:13.50 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/sc2-n-sc1-plus/. Sc2 n' Sc1 PLUS. DrPainZ (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 16:13.54 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/le-centre/. Le Centre. Shelkz (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
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| 16:14.10 | PoC | has anyone started digesting the sc2 campaign triggers? |
| 16:14.11 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/ludwigvango/. LudwigvanGo. Ludwigvan1 (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 16:14.12 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/midnight-action/. Midnight Action. Derandyx (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 16:15.00 | AsaPhelps | http://i25.tinypic.com/dr6v7o.jpg that looks pretty cool to me, like flaming oil or something |
| 16:19.15 | nicoli_s | btw, we are launching a new sc2 website today :) |
| 16:19.28 | AsaPhelps | who is "we" |
| 16:19.35 | nicoli_s | curse |
| 16:19.39 | nicoli_s | the owners of sc2mapster |
| 16:19.43 | nicoli_s | and your soul |
| 16:19.54 | ubdead | what do you need a new site for? |
| 16:20.12 | nicoli_s | its for something new :) |
| 16:20.21 | nicoli_s | i dont want to spoil the surprise |
| 16:20.31 | ubdead | you're such a tease |
| 16:20.42 | nicoli_s | thats the point :P |
| 16:20.45 | Megalon | you finally launch a pornsite |
| 16:20.48 | ubdead | rofl |
| 16:20.50 | nicoli_s | i am a hype machine! |
| 16:20.50 | Megalon | i waited so long |
| 16:20.51 | Megalon | oh man |
| 16:21.03 | ubdead | ultralisk porn again O_o? |
| 16:21.07 | nicoli_s | well technically our main site curse.com used to be a beastiality site |
| 16:21.15 | ubdead | xD |
| 16:21.18 | nicoli_s | so we've kinda already done the porn thing :P |
| 16:21.21 | Megalon | curse.com IS a bestiality site |
| 16:21.25 | ubdead | HAHA |
| 16:21.26 | Megalon | it rapes usability |
| 16:21.28 | Megalon | day by day |
| 16:21.29 | Megalon | :x |
| 16:21.34 | Megalon | :P |
| 16:21.46 | AsaPhelps | if you don't have all 4 dependecies enabled do you lose things? or does campaign give you everything |
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| 16:22.00 | Dogmai | and how exactly did you get that domain? |
| 16:22.20 | nicoli_s | we paid for it |
| 16:22.58 | ubdead | mnn does curse have an actual owner? |
| 16:23.02 | nicoli_s | yeah |
| 16:23.05 | AsaPhelps | is there a reason to get curse premium if you don't have wow |
| 16:23.11 | nicoli_s | AsaPhelps:yes |
| 16:23.20 | Dogmai | how much out of curiosity |
| 16:23.21 | AsaPhelps | continue |
| 16:23.21 | nicoli_s | for key giveaways, no ads, supporting us :) |
| 16:23.35 | AsaPhelps | so no good reasons :) |
| 16:23.41 | ubdead | zing |
| 16:24.06 | ubdead | it gives you an unique avatar frame |
| 16:24.07 | nicoli_s | though we will be adding more things to our premium program as time goes on |
| 16:24.11 | ubdead | so you can brag about it |
| 16:24.24 | nicoli_s | id assume we will eventually have some premium features on this new sc2 site for example |
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| 16:24.48 | ubdead | nicoli_s, it's a map/replay repository |
| 16:24.50 | ubdead | sixen just told me |
| 16:24.53 | Megalon | sc2machinimaporn.com ? |
| 16:25.07 | Megalon | awesum |
| 16:25.45 | Ackis | sc2 pr0n? |
| 16:26.10 | Blobfish | how can I access units and models from the campaign? |
| 16:26.18 | Blobfish | medics, civilians, etc. |
| 16:26.21 | athaudia | by adding dependencies |
| 16:26.29 | Ackis | so, what's the "best" TD out there right now? |
| 16:26.29 | ubdead | add the correct dependency yea |
| 16:26.34 | ubdead | file > dependecies |
| 16:26.36 | nicoli_s | ubdead:but its not |
| 16:26.44 | nicoli_s | its not a map respository :P |
| 16:26.44 | ubdead | darn i was bluffing |
| 16:26.45 | AsaPhelps | This is what'll be on the new site, http://i37.tinypic.com/1zdlok0.jpg |
| 16:27.00 | Froznic | lawl |
| 16:27.01 | Blobfish | oh. |
| 16:27.06 | ubdead | lolwat |
| 16:27.45 | AsaPhelps | I want to make a map where you have a carrier |
| 16:27.52 | AsaPhelps | And you're trying to kill a giant egg |
| 16:28.08 | AsaPhelps | And you have like 1000 interceptors |
| 16:28.13 | ubdead | lol |
| 16:28.13 | slightlyrandom | Ackis: Cube Defense, clearly |
| 16:28.16 | Froznic | sounds laggy |
| 16:28.21 | AsaPhelps | maybe 100 |
| 16:28.29 | AsaPhelps | And each one is a small corruptor |
| 16:28.37 | AsaPhelps | Or is there a better model? |
| 16:28.48 | ubdead | i want a map with a carrier where he's ambushed and he goes: "ITS A TARP" |
| 16:29.02 | AsaPhelps | A TARP |
| 16:29.06 | AsaPhelps | so anyway |
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| 16:29.22 | AsaPhelps | if I use the campaign dependecies and not the other 2, do I lose access to any models or whatnot? |
| 16:30.09 | ubdead | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/, am i suppost to be able to edit this with default rights? |
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| 16:32.44 | SD|GhosT | Working on a dialog, but the Label text is crazy small... is there a way to make it bigger? |
| 16:33.57 | ubdead | well anybody with access to http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/ please list my tutorial at http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ |
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| 16:34.27 | AsaPhelps | http://i25.tinypic.com/dr6v7o.jpg so am I the only one who think that looks kinda cool? |
| 16:34.35 | nicoli_s | AsaPhelps:if you rely on the campaign, i think it relies on core |
| 16:35.14 | AsaPhelps | well the issue I have is that I create a new behavior with all 4 dependecies enabled it causes it to become "(unnamed)" and I can't add it to units |
| 16:35.18 | ubdead | nicoli_s would you be so kind to add http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ to the tutorial listing? |
| 16:38.48 | ubdead | oh wait i can do it myself |
| 16:38.50 | ubdead | nevermind :D |
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| 16:41.20 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/ by ubdead |
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| 16:43.24 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/ by ubdead |
| 16:43.42 | Paras1te | Lurker and lurker den ;p? |
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| 16:53.02 | depthsofchaos | nice tut ubdead |
| 16:53.13 | ubdead | thank you |
| 16:54.05 | ubdead | i like the lobby reference part the best myself |
| 16:54.12 | AsaPhelps | i had a question but I just forgot it |
| 16:54.40 | AsaPhelps | where are battle.net downloaded maps saved to on windows 7? |
| 16:55.46 | depthsofchaos | btw if i maake multiple game modes will that be selectable by the host if he uses 'join game'? |
| 16:56.10 | depthsofchaos | cause the game seems to lock the settings |
| 16:56.42 | AsaPhelps | join game has locked settings |
| 16:56.57 | depthsofchaos | ye it shouldnt :o |
| 16:57.11 | AsaPhelps | learn to love the new system or die - Blizzard |
| 16:57.21 | goomba_ | new maps gtfo |
| 16:57.23 | goomba_ | old maps FOREVER |
| 16:57.47 | AsaPhelps | so where are maps downloaded to, I need to look at a map to figure out how they're so clever |
| 16:58.14 | depthsofchaos | cache folder |
| 16:58.34 | AsaPhelps | which one |
| 16:58.39 | depthsofchaos | tho theres no reference to what is what :o |
| 16:58.39 | ubdead | %appdata%/blizzard/battle.net/cachce |
| 16:58.41 | ubdead | or something |
| 16:59.04 | Fisker | not anymore ubdead |
| 16:59.05 | depthsofchaos | but a guy made a program that can fix that for you |
| 16:59.10 | Fisker | it's in c:\programdata now |
| 16:59.19 | ubdead | right that doesnt make sense :) |
| 16:59.25 | ubdead | blizzard...... |
| 16:59.26 | ubdead | lol |
| 16:59.54 | ubdead | well it should redundency for multiple user on one computer |
| 17:00.02 | ubdead | as they would be sharing a cache that way |
| 17:07.25 | Aussie123 | why does it say i need to buy a nuke in game... i deleted the requirements |
| 17:07.59 | nicoli_s | its in programdata |
| 17:08.03 | AsaPhelps | it requires ammo |
| 17:08.03 | nicoli_s | the maps i mean |
| 17:08.06 | nicoli_s | not in appdata anymore |
| 17:08.38 | AsaPhelps | program data, blizzard? or blizzard entertainment |
| 17:08.52 | AsaPhelps | be |
| 17:09.18 | AsaPhelps | theres so much crap in that cache, any easy way to find a map? |
| 17:09.40 | volte | wakes |
| 17:09.50 | volte | BACK TO STARCRAFT EDITOR WHICH I HATE SO MUCH |
| 17:09.54 | SD|GhosT | lol |
| 17:10.27 | SD|GhosT | anyone know where to find "Shield Hp" Tryingto make a Behavior that adds a percent/fixed amount ot shiled hp |
| 17:11.12 | AsaPhelps | find as in what way |
| 17:11.32 | AsaPhelps | like a vital fraction so you can give something 20% more shields? |
| 17:11.54 | volte | was there no LibertyMulti.SC2Mod back when beta:13 was out? |
| 17:12.40 | SD|GhosT | Asaphelps; yes |
| 17:12.51 | SD|GhosT | i'm under the Unit tab/section but i dont see anything for shields |
| 17:13.06 | SD|GhosT | for a Behavior --> Behavior - Modification |
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| 17:16.07 | Aussie123 | btw can u change hotkeys just for the map? |
| 17:16.12 | Aussie123 | i have 3 abilities which use R |
| 17:18.50 | AsaPhelps | you change hotkeys in their button |
| 17:19.35 | AsaPhelps | try modifcation+, unit, vital max fraction, shields 1.2 |
| 17:20.08 | SD|GhosT | Asaphelps; apparently i'm BLIND. |
| 17:20.09 | SD|GhosT | thanks |
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| 17:21.23 | PoC | anyone started reversve engneering on star craft 2 yet? |
| 17:21.49 | ubdead | there is a crack if thats what you're getting at |
| 17:22.10 | nicoli_s | PoC: in what way? |
| 17:22.19 | nicoli_s | ive been RE'ing on sc2 for months now :P |
| 17:24.14 | AsaPhelps | i reversed engineered starcraft 2 |
| 17:24.21 | AsaPhelps | I hold in my hand a copy of "starcraft" |
| 17:24.30 | PoC | like triggers for the ship and bar and stuff, upgrading units, etc. I opened TStory01.SC2Map and it blew my mind |
| 17:24.56 | AsaPhelps | Upgrading units you mean from the armory and lab? |
| 17:25.16 | AsaPhelps | That doesn't seem to bad, it looks like just dialog |
| 17:25.36 | Aussie123 | in their button? where? |
| 17:25.37 | PoC | yeah |
| 17:27.34 | AsaPhelps | go to buttons and find the button the ability uses |
| 17:28.13 | Aussie123 | im there.. where does it let me change the hotkey? |
| 17:29.15 | AsaPhelps | hotkey |
| 17:29.22 | AsaPhelps | double click it |
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| 17:29.50 | volte | ok... so I may have solved a lot of issues by loading LibertyCampaign mod :) |
| 17:29.51 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/lobby-space-bound-orbital-campaign-snow-cheat/ |
| 17:30.10 | vjeux | :) |
| 17:30.20 | Ashamed | ok |
| 17:30.22 | Ashamed | i need someones help! |
| 17:31.03 | `MindWorX | i need someones money! |
| 17:31.07 | `MindWorX | points with a gun |
| 17:31.11 | Ashamed | Ok models that have mutiple looking things.. how do you change it to one spacific model?? I Changed the model in the actual model, and went to the one i wanted.. but now its just a white spere displaying :( |
| 17:32.03 | Aussie123 | double clicking the button doesn't do anything |
| 17:34.08 | Aussie123 | found it |
| 17:34.15 | ubdead | w00t sweet im in the news |
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| 17:35.06 | Fromethius | how do you make an ability toggle off when it levels? |
| 17:35.07 | Ashamed | i think blizzard is messing up bad with their custom map area >< |
| 17:35.29 | Ashamed | its like they give us this awesome editor with barly nor restritctions.. but they still restrict us witht the way they are doing everything |
| 17:37.26 | SD|GhosT | i'm trying to create a button, when i click the icon, browse, the "Archive Browser" pops up, but I only have "Assets" or "Editor Data" to choose from, none of the standard icons are around. Data source is "All Data" in the main window... ideas? |
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| 17:37.43 | Zaratulius | yo everyone |
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| 17:37.59 | AsaPhelps | which dependecies do you have enabled |
| 17:38.29 | SD|GhosT | Liberty (mod) , Liberty (Campaign), LIberty Story (Campaign) |
| 17:38.51 | Zaratulius | i have a question. I made map in beta euGB and now i have original plPL version of game and i can't see names of triggers, variables and such things in data editor. Is there a way to fix it? |
| 17:40.28 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 17:40.28 | goomba_ | 11-4 zzz |
| 17:40.31 | SD|GhosT | AsaPhelps: got it, just re-opened and now they pop up |
| 17:40.37 | SD|GhosT | (the whole editor) |
| 17:41.36 | Zaratulius | anyone have any idea how i can make it work? |
| 17:42.39 | goomba_ | hey is infernal arena from sc2mapster? |
| 17:42.59 | AsaPhelps | ghost, if you create a new behavior, does it say blahblah (unnamed?) |
| 17:44.09 | SD|GhosT | one momento |
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| 17:44.46 | Ashamed | none can tell me how to load a single model in the models that have muitiple ones? |
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| 17:45.08 | Ashamed | everytime i change the model to just one of them.. it gives me a white sphere instead of the models |
| 17:45.11 | QuaYeR | Hi all |
| 17:45.48 | AsaPhelps | what are you trying to ashamed |
| 17:45.50 | AsaPhelps | i don't follow |
| 17:45.59 | Zaratulius | does anyone had localization issues in trigger editor? |
| 17:45.59 | Ashamed | like dark templares = 2 differnt units |
| 17:46.04 | Ashamed | how do i make it so onlhy one shows up! |
| 17:46.09 | Lilianna | Ashamed, I just made a model with the single model, like make a new Model Object with model Rock_01.m3 |
| 17:46.11 | Lilianna | it worked for me |
| 17:46.22 | Ashamed | ok i will try to do that |
| 17:46.28 | Ashamed | yeah i have just been updating the current model |
| 17:46.30 | SD|GhosT | AsaPhelps: i just see the name, I dont see (unnamed?) |
| 17:46.31 | Ashamed | ... that might be why -.- |
| 17:46.53 | QuaYeR | can i test m map with friend on battle.net without publishing it in editor? |
| 17:46.53 | Lilianna | If you update the original model, you might have to change Variations to 1 |
| 17:46.57 | Lilianna | Not sure though |
| 17:47.59 | QuaYeR | ? |
| 17:49.16 | QuaYeR | is this possible?^^ |
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| 17:49.54 | Lilianna | Isnt there a Private publish? |
| 17:50.06 | Lilianna | where you can invite people to a party and play on that map with just you? |
| 17:50.26 | AsaPhelps | is it possible to apply effects or behaviors to beams? |
| 17:50.40 | QuaYeR | i cant open my map on battle.net |
| 17:50.47 | QuaYeR | its not on the list |
| 17:51.54 | Lilianna | If you upload it Private, isnt there a My Uploaded maps, on create game? |
| 17:52.49 | QuaYeR | found it, ty Lilianna |
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| 17:53.41 | Lilianna | np |
| 17:54.31 | depthsofchaos | any americans here who i know and would upload my map ?:o |
| 17:54.45 | AsaPhelps | why do you hate canadians |
| 17:54.58 | depthsofchaos | canada is fine too :p |
| 17:55.04 | AsaPhelps | mexicans I can understand |
| 17:55.08 | QuaYeR | mhh cant press ok... |
| 17:55.09 | depthsofchaos | !! |
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| 17:56.36 | Zarakk | ye there vjeux? :o |
| 17:56.39 | QuaYeR | Header file to examine the document function is not available: Liberty multiplayer (mod) |
| 17:56.52 | QuaYeR | ??? |
| 17:57.23 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 17:57.26 | Lilianna | No idea. :o |
| 17:57.34 | Lilianna | Ive not published anything yet. :x |
| 17:57.51 | QuaYeR | ahh i want test my map with friends... damn editor |
| 17:57.55 | AsaPhelps | does publishing require depenecies |
| 17:58.17 | Ashamed | lilianna that worked |
| 17:58.21 | Ashamed | i knew it was something simple |
| 17:58.24 | Ashamed | thank you so very much! |
| 17:58.58 | Lilianna | Your welcome :0 |
| 17:59.00 | Lilianna | :) |
| 17:59.10 | Ashamed | i knew it too |
| 17:59.17 | Ashamed | i was like i knwo its just something stupid i am missing |
| 17:59.17 | Ashamed | -.- |
| 17:59.25 | QuaYeR | mh lol closed and reopen the window and worked now... funny |
| 18:00.17 | AsaPhelps | anyone have a link to that thing that was about custom textures? |
| 18:03.15 | AsaPhelps | it was on the front page, can't find it |
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| 18:14.12 | monoframe | Is it possible to resize the image scale when posting on forums? |
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| 18:17.14 | AsaPhelps | anyone know much about beams? |
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| 18:18.27 | SD|GhosT | only if it involves sharks and lasers |
| 18:19.51 | RAW-BERRY | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/3939-data-working-with-beams-beginner-difficulty/#p6 |
| 18:20.06 | RAW-BERRY | Good tutorial on beams |
| 18:22.45 | Vailreth | hello fo;ls |
| 18:22.50 | Vailreth | folks |
| 18:23.12 | P_R_Deltoid | oh look |
| 18:23.18 | P_R_Deltoid | only the OP has a signature |
| 18:24.13 | Lasion | ohh.. map-night. Love the concept! Has it been arranged yet? |
| 18:24.32 | AsaPhelps | well the problem I have with beams is that it disappears if you move too far from the source, like if a void ray tries to shoot from 200 away it makes the beam invisible |
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| 18:27.11 | AsaPhelps | hello lyrrad, haven't seen you in a while |
| 18:27.13 | AsaPhelps | ~seen lyrrad |
| 18:27.15 | purl | lyrrad is currently on #sc2mapster (50s), last said: 'Volte - I believe death response is what happens when the unit dies'. |
| 18:27.35 | Lyrrad | I was on yesterday |
| 18:27.48 | AsaPhelps | so it would appear |
| 18:28.24 | P_R_Deltoid | he's a liar |
| 18:28.26 | P_R_Deltoid | he hacked the bot |
| 18:28.43 | Lyrrad | damnit, I have been found out |
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| 18:28.52 | volte | ok... this is a silly question, but I'll ask it anyway. When I duplicate a unit, I want to use the default actors, but it makes new actor duplicates and assigns them to my unit. How do I revert that? I can't find a place to edit the actors attached to a unit... |
| 18:29.14 | volte | also, weird that my name was just mentioned :P |
| 18:29.20 | Lasion | when you duplicate units, do you also duplicate the actors? |
| 18:29.37 | Lyrrad | You assign actors to units under the actor |
| 18:29.39 | nicoli_s | Lasion:there is a checkbox tree of what relationships to duplicate |
| 18:30.00 | Lasion | nicoli_s, that's why I asked if he also duplicated the actors |
| 18:30.13 | P_R_Deltoid | awww |
| 18:30.13 | volte | nicoli_s: yea... but if I dont select actors (and this is because I don'y know better) I have no possible way of adding actors to my unit |
| 18:30.17 | P_R_Deltoid | i didn't get to answerrrr |
| 18:30.19 | Lyrrad | if you want to use an actor with more then 1 unit, then you have to start editing the events |
| 18:30.23 | volte | Lyrrad: you mean the actors tab? |
| 18:30.33 | P_R_Deltoid | under the actual actor |
| 18:30.35 | P_R_Deltoid | is a field called Token |
| 18:30.39 | P_R_Deltoid | it is what the actor is assigned to |
| 18:30.41 | P_R_Deltoid | change it |
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| 18:31.29 | volte | P_R_Deltoid: when editing the unit? |
| 18:31.37 | volte | (sorry, there are so many sections, I just want to be clear) |
| 18:31.46 | Lyrrad | Actors are in the actor tab |
| 18:31.48 | Net_C | ~seen onetwo |
| 18:31.49 | purl | onetwo <ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 9h 43m 14s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 18:33.12 | P_R_Deltoid | volte, the actr. The actor you want to use |
| 18:33.14 | P_R_Deltoid | ACTOR |
| 18:33.26 | P_R_Deltoid | err |
| 18:33.27 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 18:33.28 | P_R_Deltoid | the actor |
| 18:33.41 | P_R_Deltoid | on the actor itself. Like, in t eh tree, click the actor and the token is at the top |
| 18:33.45 | P_R_Deltoid | if you have the table view |
| 18:34.06 | volte | ok, I selected Actors -> Pickup - Experimental Plasma Gun, and now I see tabs on the right (Event, Actor, Animation, Art, Combat, Editor, Hosting, Properties, Sound, UI, Unit) |
| 18:34.10 | Vailreth | i am looking for some ideas how to make minimeras spread like tiberium from the CnC universe |
| 18:34.22 | P_R_Deltoid | switch to table view |
| 18:35.12 | Lyrrad | Vail - maybe something with the "Spawn" behaviour type would do what you are looking for |
| 18:35.15 | volte | k |
| 18:35.53 | Vailreth | i was think of spawn and create unit as well. |
| 18:36.17 | P_R_Deltoid | Minimera? |
| 18:36.26 | SD|GhosT | been stuck on this for a while... Trying to create a button that when clicked will add a point to a behavior. Tried creating a "Abilities" with LearnAbility, but i cant seem to figure out how to make it add a Behavior Point, like you could do in a Veterancy Behavior Type |
| 18:36.47 | volte | I still can't find where to associate an actor with multiple units |
| 18:36.54 | P_R_Deltoid | oh wait, minerals? |
| 18:36.59 | P_R_Deltoid | copy the actor |
| 18:37.40 | Lyrrad | Volte you have to go in and start editing the events on the Actor, its much easier to just create a copy of the actor and use that |
| 18:37.53 | volte | ok |
| 18:37.58 | volte | so *do* copy actors then |
| 18:38.00 | P_R_Deltoid | aw yeah, that'd do it |
| 18:38.08 | P_R_Deltoid | Sorry, I must have misunderstood what you meant earlier |
| 18:38.15 | Lyrrad | yes, copy actors |
| 18:38.46 | Lyrrad | unless you are insane and want to make a new one from scratch |
| 18:38.57 | volte | O.o |
| 18:39.02 | volte | I like to think I'm not insane :D |
| 18:39.03 | P_R_Deltoid | I have a feeling tiberium wouldn't be hard to replicate |
| 18:39.22 | volte | but I have been using the SC editor for a few days, so i might as well be |
| 18:39.32 | P_R_Deltoid | duplicate it |
| 18:39.33 | Lyrrad | I'm with you on that one |
| 18:39.34 | P_R_Deltoid | or make a new one |
| 18:39.37 | P_R_Deltoid | making new ones is not hard |
| 18:39.41 | P_R_Deltoid | the editor does most of the leg work |
| 18:39.55 | P_R_Deltoid | you link it to a model and it makes all of the actor actions for you |
| 18:41.22 | Vailreth | do you think it would be Periodic event > search event > spawn unit minneral field? |
| 18:41.39 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 18:41.43 | P_R_Deltoid | i was thinking |
| 18:41.49 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 18:41.54 | P_R_Deltoid | should it be mineable? |
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| 18:41.59 | P_R_Deltoid | I never played any of the tiberium games |
| 18:42.03 | P_R_Deltoid | but isn't it dangerous |
| 18:42.04 | Lyrrad | why a search? |
| 18:42.13 | P_R_Deltoid | finding the area to spawn it |
| 18:42.21 | P_R_Deltoid | I assume |
| 18:42.25 | Vailreth | yes the tiberium is dangerous.. |
| 18:42.37 | P_R_Deltoid | so you wouldn't just spawn minerals would you? |
| 18:42.47 | P_R_Deltoid | Or are you just make it all laymans for us simple folk |
| 18:42.49 | Lyrrad | the spawn behaviour lets you set a number of offsets and I assume it looks through them all |
| 18:43.07 | Lyrrad | so an actually search is probably unneeded |
| 18:43.37 | P_R_Deltoid | hmm |
| 18:43.37 | volte | what does Stats - Mob mean in the Units tab? |
| 18:43.54 | P_R_Deltoid | is there no tooltip? |
| 18:44.13 | SageX | Yawns |
| 18:44.21 | SageX | sup |
| 18:44.22 | Lyrrad | The only fields that have tooltips are the ones that are obvious |
| 18:44.32 | volte | correct, no tooltims |
| 18:44.34 | Vailreth | i should also give the minerals a perodic>search>damage effect to mimik tiberium |
| 18:44.36 | Lyrrad | Name - This is the name of the unit |
| 18:44.37 | volte | Lyrrad: correct :P |
| 18:44.54 | volte | would love for more tooltips or an "official" wiki |
| 18:44.56 | Lyrrad | Weapons - These are the weapons |
| 18:45.01 | volte | like they link to on the loading screen >.< |
| 18:45.04 | allenmelon | yay new razer deathadder mouse! |
| 18:45.15 | volte | allenmelon: a new one released or you got a new one? |
| 18:45.21 | allenmelon | i got a new one! |
| 18:45.27 | volte | highfives allenmelon |
| 18:45.32 | allenmelon | went from those ordinary logitech ones... |
| 18:45.41 | volte | oh man, dude, deathadder is so nice |
| 18:45.49 | SageX | razer deathadder mouse! |
| 18:45.56 | allenmelon | i cant get used to the sensitivity yet though |
| 18:45.58 | SageX | 4000 dpi |
| 18:46.00 | SageX | HURR |
| 18:46.03 | allenmelon | 5 is too high, 1 is too low |
| 18:46.08 | allenmelon | 3 is around where i need to be |
| 18:46.19 | volte | yea it takes a while to calibrate |
| 18:46.21 | allenmelon | but that seems low... i guess its cause i am too used to the old logitech one |
| 18:46.29 | SageX | its easy to get used to the sensitivity |
| 18:46.46 | AsaPhelps | lyrrad/anyone, do you know what determines the visual range of beams? like if a void ray has 100 range, and the target is 100 away, the beam goes invisible as you move the camera way from the ray |
| 18:46.46 | allenmelon | ive been using the old logitech one since forever |
| 18:46.54 | SageX | lol |
| 18:46.55 | allenmelon | this is basically my first mouse |
| 18:47.16 | SageX | I am glad I own a g15 |
| 18:47.19 | allenmelon | do you guys have razer deathadders or any razer mouse? |
| 18:47.27 | volte | deathadder :) |
| 18:47.29 | SageX | I do |
| 18:47.30 | allenmelon | i have a logitech illuminated keyboard. |
| 18:47.38 | allenmelon | what is your sensitivity at? |
| 18:47.44 | SageX | lachesis |
| 18:47.47 | SageX | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.55 | depthsofchaos | i got copperhead :o |
| 18:48.03 | allenmelon | i heard copperhead was good |
| 18:48.05 | athaudia | allenmelon: diamondback here |
| 18:48.05 | SageX | 3200 dpi cause I don't like the drivers |
| 18:48.11 | volte | 7 |
| 18:48.17 | SageX | 4000 dpi if I had the drivers |
| 18:48.19 | volte | with master xy at 10 |
| 18:48.19 | allenmelon | whoah, 7 sensitivity?! |
| 18:48.31 | volte | accell at 3 |
| 18:48.33 | allenmelon | wow, i thought 5 was too high for me... |
| 18:48.35 | depthsofchaos | i got 5 sensitivity :o or whatever is the maximum |
| 18:48.40 | SageX | needs more nerds |
| 18:48.50 | SageX | 4000 dpi is insane |
| 18:48.52 | volte | 1800DPI |
| 18:48.56 | depthsofchaos | oh the max is 10 i got 10 xD |
| 18:49.01 | allenmelon | i heard that if the dpi is really high, it doesnt matter cause you cant even notice the difference |
| 18:49.02 | SageX | what |
| 18:49.13 | allenmelon | holy crap, 10 sensitivy?!?! |
| 18:49.15 | volte | after a certain point, sure |
| 18:49.24 | SageX | obvious troll |
| 18:49.33 | AsaPhelps | I use 11 sensitivity |
| 18:49.34 | allenmelon | 10 sensitivity is like moving your mouse a millimeter for half the monitor! |
| 18:49.44 | depthsofchaos | no |
| 18:49.57 | depthsofchaos | but 1 cm is across the sceen ye |
| 18:50.04 | allenmelon | wow... |
| 18:50.04 | SageX | deathadder is 3500 dpi |
| 18:50.10 | allenmelon | yes |
| 18:50.18 | SageX | <volte> 1800DPI |
| 18:50.21 | SageX | you troll |
| 18:50.26 | SageX | :< |
| 18:50.29 | P_R_Deltoid | wow |
| 18:50.36 | volte | thats what mine is :) |
| 18:50.39 | P_R_Deltoid | I just made the tiberium, Vailreth |
| 18:50.41 | P_R_Deltoid | that was really easy |
| 18:50.42 | SageX | oh |
| 18:50.42 | volte | I can take a screenshot of it if you'd like |
| 18:50.42 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 18:50.49 | P_R_Deltoid | spawn unit automatically chooses an open area |
| 18:50.58 | volte | er, not a screenshot, a picture |
| 18:51.05 | SageX | no i am good |
| 18:51.09 | volte | good |
| 18:51.10 | SageX | I made a mistake |
| 18:51.19 | SageX | calling you a troll |
| 18:51.21 | allenmelon | i got the logitech illuminated keyboard, i dont think its for gaming, but i think its still good |
| 18:51.22 | P_R_Deltoid | oh, but I see a problem. if it can't place it next to itself, it places it further out, instead of stopping, so it's growing exponentially |
| 18:51.35 | SageX | read 1800dpi as 11800dpi |
| 18:51.41 | SageX | damn glasses |
| 18:51.54 | P_R_Deltoid | dpi can suck my dick |
| 18:51.57 | P_R_Deltoid | no one needs that good of a mouse |
| 18:52.00 | P_R_Deltoid | especially for rts |
| 18:52.06 | SageX | yea |
| 18:52.09 | P_R_Deltoid | most progamers use fairly normal mouses, nothing fancy |
| 18:52.09 | allenmelon | lol yeah |
| 18:52.16 | P_R_Deltoid | People who are buying really high dpi are shmucks |
| 18:52.17 | SageX | 800dpi old school mouse is fine |
| 18:52.21 | depthsofchaos | most progamers use gaming mouse :o |
| 18:52.26 | P_R_Deltoid | Not really. |
| 18:52.29 | depthsofchaos | rly |
| 18:52.30 | P_R_Deltoid | Unless they are sponsored |
| 18:52.34 | P_R_Deltoid | by Razer or whatever |
| 18:52.34 | SageX | trackball |
| 18:52.41 | P_R_Deltoid | very little you gain from "gaming mouse" |
| 18:52.50 | Vailreth | i am trying a create persistant > Search> Spawn unit ... |
| 18:53.02 | P_R_Deltoid | why search? |
| 18:53.08 | allenmelon | i cant imagine using a trackball to play games |
| 18:53.15 | allenmelon | it would feel so weird... |
| 18:53.18 | depthsofchaos | its not little, well in an rts its smaller but any difference matters fro pros |
| 18:53.45 | SageX | http://www2.razerzone.com/sc2/spectre.php |
| 18:54.03 | depthsofchaos | thats rly ugly |
| 18:54.13 | SageX | 5600 DPI Laser Sensor |
| 18:54.17 | SageX | srs |
| 18:54.45 | depthsofchaos | it detects if an amoba moves |
| 18:54.46 | SageX | its too lightweight my cursor already bounces cause of my sound system |
| 18:55.11 | allenmelon | wow |
| 18:55.14 | allenmelon | that mouse looks |
| 18:55.17 | SageX | yep |
| 18:55.23 | allenmelon | not like razer mouses |
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| 18:55.33 | allenmelon | and its specially designed for sc2? lol |
| 18:55.36 | AsaPhelps | is there a version of kerrigan from the cinematics |
| 18:55.41 | AsaPhelps | particularly the spoiler one |
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| 18:55.57 | AsaPhelps | i don't see a character unit for her |
| 18:56.04 | Vailreth | i want to controll the range that the tiberium grows near.. |
| 18:56.17 | allenmelon | lol 80 bucks for that... |
| 18:56.17 | Fromethius | are there any versions of photoshop available without the bloat.. or would anyone recommend some good programs for editing tga files (sc2 textures) for win7 |
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| 18:56.34 | SageX | I think the mouse has the apm lighting system |
| 18:58.24 | allenmelon | yeah |
| 18:58.30 | allenmelon | but wont your hand cover it anyways? |
| 18:58.43 | allenmelon | what are credits? |
| 18:59.11 | allenmelon | "WhySoSerious - Gives 5,000,000 credits. (Joker in the "Dark Knight.")" |
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| 19:00.57 | AsaPhelps | thats interesting, |
| 19:01.16 | AsaPhelps | the shackled ultralisk plays sounds even on the editor, like in the game |
| 19:01.23 | AsaPhelps | can't think of any other placed units that does that |
| 19:02.02 | volte | is there a way to change the default size of a unit? |
| 19:03.20 | AsaPhelps | default size as in placement? |
| 19:03.28 | P_R_Deltoid | is a mineral node's size dependant on it's health? |
| 19:03.56 | volte | I think I found it |
| 19:03.57 | AsaPhelps | I know they get smaller when there's less |
| 19:04.05 | AsaPhelps | did you try changing the scale volte |
| 19:04.14 | volte | its under Actors -> Art |
| 19:04.16 | volte | btw |
| 19:04.22 | SageX | allenmelon, yeah your hand will cover it |
| 19:04.25 | RodOfNOD | yea i noticed that too AsaPhelps with the ultra |
| 19:04.27 | volte | perfect |
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| 19:06.01 | iCCup`prodiG | has anyone ever encountered a bug where the scv's glitch out and circle all the way aroudn a refinery before entering to mine some gas? i'm encountering this on almost all of the geysers on my map o_o |
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| 19:06.23 | AsaPhelps | I haven't seen that before |
| 19:06.46 | AsaPhelps | how did you replace refineries |
| 19:06.47 | RodOfNOD | that lego sc is da bomb |
| 19:06.48 | iCCup`prodiG | it's pretty goofie |
| 19:06.49 | AsaPhelps | pre-built? |
| 19:07.02 | iCCup`prodiG | no, they're geysers and i build the refinery in game |
| 19:08.04 | iCCup`prodiG | the geysers are open on all sides as well, it's really wierd |
| 19:08.17 | volte | wow and my editor has been crashing like crazy lately |
| 19:09.14 | SD|GhosT | Anyone know how to +1 point a behavior via an Ability (so you can click a button and it adds +1 to a Behavior) for the unit? |
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| 19:09.46 | SD|GhosT | an Attribute Behavior* |
| 19:10.13 | RodOfNOD | so what is that lego sc running in? |
| 19:10.54 | Vailreth | hm.. if i could only find away to regin minerals |
| 19:11.03 | Vailreth | regen* |
| 19:11.45 | Act | Hey all, I am currently creating a map, and I am trying to set up a sort of difficulty setting system. I planned on basing it off of life values, however I can't for the life of me figure out how to change the life (by percentage preferably) value of either creating units, or units that enter a region. Does anyone know of any work-arounds, or of an action that would suit this purpose? |
| 19:13.37 | RodOfNOD | its shit like this that makes me mod : http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/images/23/800/frozenhaven.png i know its not a mod but its so cool looking |
| 19:15.19 | Lilianna | Snowball fight! |
| 19:15.25 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 19:15.31 | RodOfNOD | makes me think of ground hogs day |
| 19:15.41 | Act | Does anyone know how to lower a units health by a certain percent? |
| 19:15.55 | Vailreth | bother if i cant figure out how to get mineral fields to regen their minerals my tiberium idea is sunk.. |
| 19:16.07 | SD|GhosT | i guess no-one knows |
| 19:16.20 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 19:16.31 | RodOfNOD | should be easy |
| 19:16.38 | RodOfNOD | for sure easy via trigger i think |
| 19:16.39 | Lilianna | Act: I would say a Behavior could do it |
| 19:16.58 | SD|GhosT | rodofNod: my issue? |
| 19:17.00 | Act | Thank you, i'll looko for it, i''l let you know if I make any progress. |
| 19:17.04 | Act | look* |
| 19:17.06 | Lilianna | Its in the data editor |
| 19:17.08 | Act | i'll, lol |
| 19:17.12 | Lilianna | You need a Behavior Buff I believe |
| 19:17.12 | RodOfNOD | no was talking to Vailreth :P |
| 19:17.18 | Lilianna | and you can apply behaviors vie tribbers |
| 19:17.20 | Lilianna | via* |
| 19:17.23 | Lilianna | triggers* |
| 19:17.24 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 19:17.25 | RodOfNOD | and triggers |
| 19:17.30 | Vailreth | id perfer data editor only |
| 19:17.32 | RodOfNOD | tribbers might be harder |
| 19:17.37 | RodOfNOD | but of course Vailreth |
| 19:17.42 | Lilianna | Tibbers is a fluffy firey bear of doom |
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| 19:17.47 | Lilianna | must be the cousin of Tribbers |
| 19:17.51 | Lilianna | but not related to Tribbles |
| 19:18.07 | SD|GhosT | heh, well i've thought about triggers, but how do I get a trigger to fire when they hit a specific button? from the small info, the "On button Press" fires on all buttons and will cause alot of network traffic |
| 19:18.13 | RodOfNOD | tribbles and bits ah good food |
| 19:18.47 | iCCup`prodiG | anyone have any idea why this is happening? (VOD) http://www.livestream.com/prodiG/video?clipId=pla_314ad646-088e-4971-8a8b-48c02cc93ac6&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb |
| 19:18.47 | AsaPhelps | you can make them take damage based on a percent act |
| 19:18.53 | AsaPhelps | don't use triggers, only silly people dotha |
| 19:18.55 | AsaPhelps | do that |
| 19:19.15 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 19:19.17 | SD|GhosT | any idea how to add +1 to an attribute via the command menu? |
| 19:19.35 | goomba_ | red circle td is |
| 19:19.38 | goomba_ | inevitibly |
| 19:19.39 | SD|GhosT | aka you get 1 point, and can choose to level up a one of a couple attributes, need to +1 that attribute |
| 19:19.41 | goomba_ | the best game ever made |
| 19:19.52 | AsaPhelps | i don't see whats so great about it |
| 19:19.58 | goomba_ | the free market has spoken |
| 19:19.59 | AsaPhelps | don't you just spam splash towers? |
| 19:20.01 | goomba_ | it is at the top |
| 19:20.03 | goomba_ | so shall it be |
| 19:20.05 | goomba_ | the greatest |
| 19:20.08 | goomba_ | of all time |
| 19:20.10 | AsaPhelps | so the most popular map means its the best |
| 19:20.18 | AsaPhelps | i guess that means thriller is better than starcraft 2 |
| 19:20.19 | goomba_ | clearly |
| 19:20.24 | AsaPhelps | which is true but |
| 19:20.32 | AsaPhelps | i don't think cod is |
| 19:20.46 | goomba_ | ive never played it |
| 19:20.47 | goomba_ | i justknow |
| 19:20.51 | goomba_ | that because its at the top |
| 19:20.55 | goomba_ | it is the best game available to me |
| 19:20.57 | goomba_ | clearly. |
| 19:21.04 | AsaPhelps | i need ideas for my map |
| 19:21.12 | goomba_ | what kind of map |
| 19:21.20 | Lilianna | Snow Ball fight |
| 19:21.21 | Lilianna | make it go |
| 19:21.22 | AsaPhelps | its a map I made in beta, then got mad because phase 2 broke it |
| 19:21.25 | Lilianna | with Candy Canes |
| 19:21.34 | AsaPhelps | didn't they just tint the textures in that picture? |
| 19:21.44 | Lisk | is there a tool to convert warcraft 3 models to starcraft 2 format? |
| 19:21.46 | Lilianna | picture? |
| 19:21.49 | RodOfNOD | Vailreth: the biggest issue i think is that the mineral can be exhaausted |
| 19:21.51 | AsaPhelps | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/images/23/800/frozenhaven.png |
| 19:22.06 | RodOfNOD | if i recall if all tiberium is mined it wont grow back |
| 19:22.17 | goomba_ | lisk |
| 19:22.19 | Lilianna | if they did then why would it be news worthy? |
| 19:22.21 | goomba_ | its a bit more complicated than that |
| 19:22.31 | goomba_ | but yes |
| 19:22.54 | goomba_ | rofl i love when people try to make like |
| 19:22.58 | goomba_ | helpful lists of internet terms |
| 19:23.10 | Lisk | got a link? |
| 19:23.23 | goomba_ | you need 3ds max |
| 19:23.27 | goomba_ | and multiple script files |
| 19:23.28 | Vailreth | that depnds on of there was a seed area in the fields or not especially in CnC3 with the Scrin who could place growth accelerators on the seed portions of fields and make the tiberium grow faster |
| 19:23.43 | goomba_ | and some basic knowlege of 3ds max lol |
| 19:23.49 | RodOfNOD | k well if it wasnt in cnc dawn idk or idc :> |
| 19:23.55 | Act | AsaPhelps,how would I go about doing that? I can't find a behavior (i'm new to the concept of behaviors) for this. |
| 19:24.05 | goomba_ | for example who the fuck calls engineering bay an ebay? |
| 19:24.09 | AsaPhelps | what are you trying to do |
| 19:24.10 | AsaPhelps | exactly |
| 19:24.33 | AsaPhelps | who calls zerglings lings? |
| 19:24.39 | AsaPhelps | i'd call them zerglies |
| 19:24.45 | goomba_ | no seriously |
| 19:24.49 | RodOfNOD | im gonna guess lisk that if u are asking that ? it is beyond ur abilities or time to do so :P |
| 19:24.52 | allenmellon | omg the plants vs zombies minigame is awesome |
| 19:24.54 | goomba_ | wtf is ebay |
| 19:24.55 | AsaPhelps | i'm making a zerglisk |
| 19:25.01 | AsaPhelps | copyrighted |
| 19:25.04 | RodOfNOD | there currently is no automagical program to suck them |
| 19:25.11 | AsaPhelps | allen have a link? |
| 19:25.13 | Lisk | the latter, haha |
| 19:25.28 | RodOfNOD | i guess my real ? is why would u want to :P |
| 19:25.29 | AsaPhelps | Act what do you want your ability to do? |
| 19:25.33 | Act | I am trying to set the life of a created unit to a percentage (based on a voting system) upon being created. If there is no way to do that, I would be happy with basing it on when a unit enters a region. |
| 19:25.34 | allenmellon | AsaPhelps, yeah hold on |
| 19:25.36 | Lisk | not enough models |
| 19:25.41 | Act | also, how do you whisper? |
| 19:25.42 | Lisk | warcraft 3 had much more variety |
| 19:25.52 | allenmellon | AsaPhelps, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anx6oD0l7nQ&feature=player_embedded |
| 19:25.54 | AsaPhelps | I think if yo udo |
| 19:25.56 | RodOfNOD | act be very veryt easy to do with triggers |
| 19:26.00 | allenmellon | i love pvz |
| 19:26.12 | AsaPhelps | behavior, modifcation, unit, vital max fraction |
| 19:26.13 | RodOfNOD | yes but if u put fantasy chars into a sci fi it will look horrid |
| 19:26.50 | RodOfNOD | not to mention u "might" get pwned by bliz |
| 19:27.08 | Lisk | i'm looking to convert "custom" wc3 models |
| 19:27.24 | Vailreth | what i was thinking was that the minerals would spawn new minerals only when their resource thing was full and that when they were not being mined they would regen their mineral count |
| 19:27.32 | Fromethius | how do you import custom button textures? i went to modules import and imported the file but now what do i do? it's still not showing up |
| 19:27.36 | AsaPhelps | and change it to 1.2 or whatever |
| 19:27.38 | Lisk | specifically, i could also use more creeps--they don't have to look fantastic |
| 19:27.45 | AsaPhelps | do you follow that act? |
| 19:28.11 | `MindWorX | You know, with all the customizability, i'm surprised they dind't include a way to make a custom lobby |
| 19:28.12 | AsaPhelps | from, did you push save after you imported? |
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| 19:28.18 | `MindWorX | I mean, to set settings for games before hand |
| 19:28.23 | Dedo | Hi |
| 19:28.28 | `MindWorX | liek -ar, -ap and all that other dota crap |
| 19:28.38 | AsaPhelps | well if you make a game variant you can set it when you make a game |
| 19:29.24 | `MindWorX | Did they add a native for finding out whos the host? |
| 19:29.40 | Act | AsaPhelps, how exactly can I go about doing that through an action? |
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| 19:31.15 | iCCup`prodiG | has anyone ever seen this patching glitch before? http://livestre.am/i1hf |
| 19:31.31 | P_R_Deltoid | okay |
| 19:31.31 | AsaPhelps | i'm not familiar with triggers |
| 19:31.34 | P_R_Deltoid | I have this effect |
| 19:31.36 | P_R_Deltoid | a damage effect |
| 19:31.39 | P_R_Deltoid | with amount 20 |
| 19:31.42 | P_R_Deltoid | and it is doing 1 damage |
| 19:31.45 | P_R_Deltoid | what the fuck is going on |
| 19:31.47 | AsaPhelps | does the target have armor |
| 19:31.52 | P_R_Deltoid | It's a marine |
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| 19:31.54 | P_R_Deltoid | MAYBE 1 |
| 19:31.57 | P_R_Deltoid | default marine |
| 19:31.59 | P_R_Deltoid | also |
| 19:32.02 | P_R_Deltoid | armor reduction is 0 |
| 19:32.05 | P_R_Deltoid | so it's irrelevant |
| 19:32.06 | Gralamin | Been a long time since I was in here >_> |
| 19:32.08 | AsaPhelps | how are you using the damage effect |
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| 19:32.31 | Act | how would I be able to trigger that after an integer is made (based on the average of x integers, like 50, 75, 100) if I would have to go through the data editor? |
| 19:32.42 | Act | After it is defined by a trigger. |
| 19:32.47 | AsaPhelps | i don't know act, i'm not that familiar with triggers |
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| 19:33.36 | Gralamin | So you guys are probably know more about the editor then I do. How many ways are there to alter terrain in game these days? |
| 19:33.38 | P_R_Deltoid | periodic buff |
| 19:33.40 | P_R_Deltoid | from another unit |
| 19:33.41 | P_R_Deltoid | an aoe buff |
| 19:34.02 | AsaPhelps | so is it periodic damage? |
| 19:34.04 | P_R_Deltoid | err |
| 19:34.05 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 19:34.07 | P_R_Deltoid | it goes on a period |
| 19:34.10 | P_R_Deltoid | indefinite |
| 19:34.12 | AsaPhelps | and the effect is a damage effect? |
| 19:34.34 | P_R_Deltoid | okay, one is a persistant buff that aplie a damage effect to an area around it every period of time |
| 19:34.35 | Net_C | ~seen onetwo |
| 19:34.39 | purl | onetwo <ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 10h 46m 4s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 19:36.32 | P_R_Deltoid | it also doesn't do the death animation I tell it to do |
| 19:36.37 | P_R_Deltoid | unless freeze isn't actually in the game |
| 19:36.40 | P_R_Deltoid | which I can't really think of |
| 19:36.54 | AsaPhelps | if you upload I can take a look |
| 19:37.09 | AsaPhelps | also this plant vs zombie map is awesome |
| 19:38.40 | Fromethius | anyone know why my texture has a black background instead of transparent in-game? i am 100% sure the background is transparent in paint.net |
| 19:38.43 | Fromethius | it has the checkboard and everything |
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| 19:38.55 | P_R_Deltoid | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7753676/TiberiumTest.SC2Map |
| 19:38.56 | P_R_Deltoid | there it is |
| 19:38.58 | Fromethius | and i'm saving it as a tga |
| 19:39.05 | Charmzz | is this a chat for custom game creation? |
| 19:39.11 | Charmzz | in SC2 |
| 19:39.12 | P_R_Deltoid | you sure that maintains alpha? |
| 19:39.20 | P_R_Deltoid | Charmzz, I think so |
| 19:39.23 | Fromethius | well, the rest of the files in the editor use tga? |
| 19:39.25 | P_R_Deltoid | er uhm |
| 19:39.27 | P_R_Deltoid | AsaPhelps, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7753676/TiberiumTest.SC2Map |
| 19:39.56 | Charmzz | im trying to make a custom thats like a clone of WC3's Battleship but have lots of questions |
| 19:40.03 | Fromethius | maybe i'll try dds |
| 19:40.30 | P_R_Deltoid | dds is nice |
| 19:40.41 | P_R_Deltoid | Charmzz, then you are probably in the right place |
| 19:40.48 | Charmzz | cool |
| 19:41.21 | Charmzz | well to start, were there any important settings i needed to choose before even creating the new map? |
| 19:41.33 | SD|GhosT | this attribute thing is going to be the death of me |
| 19:41.49 | Charmzz | cuz ive finished the basic terrain and am starting to try and figure out team stuff |
| 19:42.12 | Fromethius | yeah dds worked |
| 19:42.35 | Charmzz | i got rid of the melee initialization inthe triggers and made a trigger to spawn everyones starting ship |
| 19:43.43 | volte | wow Maya costs 3,495.00!? |
| 19:43.46 | volte | that is so ridic |
| 19:44.16 | r9k | Haha, the popular topics http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/ |
| 19:44.49 | AsaPhelps | whats maya |
| 19:46.07 | `MindWorX | It's a girls name |
| 19:46.09 | Charmzz | hey, how come when i make a new unit by making a copy of an existing one and changing the stats, the new unit doesnt have any unit model in game? |
| 19:46.27 | P_R_Deltoid | modeling program |
| 19:46.40 | Charmzz | is there a way to set a defaut model for the copy? |
| 19:47.18 | Vailreth | Charmzz: you have to duplicate the actor you want the unit to have and set the unit on the actor |
| 19:47.30 | Vailreth | actor duplicate rather |
| 19:47.53 | Charmzz | kk lemmie see if i can find that |
| 19:48.16 | Charmzz | its done under the "data" tab correct? |
| 19:48.23 | Charmzz | thats wherei made teh unit duplicate |
| 19:48.44 | AsaPhelps | whats suppose to be causing the damage deltoid |
| 19:49.02 | Vailreth | yes |
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| 19:49.59 | AsaPhelps | how are you applying the behavior for damage, I don't see anything |
| 19:50.06 | Charmzz | Vailreth: could me tell me what tab in the data section that the actor option is at? |
| 19:50.18 | Armikur | there a way to delete all water ? such as selecting it all and deleting it? |
| 19:50.31 | allenmellon | http://beider.org/gamereplays/competition/ |
| 19:50.36 | allenmellon | lol at the plague at the end |
| 19:50.38 | allenmellon | sounds hilarious |
| 19:50.45 | Vailreth | there is a drop down box on the editor that will open the actors tab when selected |
| 19:51.01 | Vailreth | its called data type |
| 19:51.29 | Charmzz | i see it |
| 19:51.40 | Charmzz | ahh |
| 19:51.42 | Charmzz | actors |
| 19:52.26 | Charmzz | so i need to duplicate the actor rather than the unit? |
| 19:52.55 | Vailreth | well if you want a new unit you should duplicate both and link then then edit them to what you want |
| 19:53.10 | Charmzz | how do i link them |
| 19:54.03 | Vailreth | there is a field on the actors information called Unit Name. that field links the actor to the unit |
| 19:54.26 | volte | need an m3 import/export for blender :/ |
| 19:54.32 | Vailreth | yes they do |
| 19:54.40 | Charmzz | ok im seeing the original unit i used to duplicate but not my copy |
| 19:55.17 | Vailreth | your copy should be have green text and say Copy unless you renamed it already |
| 19:55.18 | Charmzz | (im using a Starport as the main base and where players can buy new spaceships |
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| 19:55.19 | AsaPhelps | deltoid you there? |
| 19:55.37 | Charmzz | i did rename it |
| 19:56.11 | Vailreth | ok then you may need to change your search filter to the name of what you called it |
| 19:56.12 | Charmzz | right now im looking at the duplicate object actions screen |
| 19:56.15 | Charmzz | ok |
| 19:56.18 | Vailreth | ah |
| 19:56.25 | Vailreth | never mind |
| 19:56.34 | Vailreth | you are in a tabed view ? |
| 19:56.57 | Charmzz | no this is another window |
| 19:57.16 | Charmzz | like i clicked duplicate on teh starport under the actor tab |
| 19:57.33 | Charmzz | and this window popped up asking what properties i want to keep with it |
| 19:57.41 | Vailreth | ah |
| 19:58.12 | Vailreth | every thing you check will be copied everything you leave blank will be linked ... |
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| 19:58.51 | Charmzz | so should i be copying stuff or no? |
| 19:58.55 | Vailreth | its should be ok just to let everything be linked |
| 19:59.02 | Charmzz | ok |
| 19:59.14 | sugoi | does anyone know in what format (free y/n, protected y/n) egodbout is going to release his diablo game? |
| 20:00.14 | Charmzz | ok so how do i link that actor to the unit? |
| 20:00.16 | P_R_Deltoid | man |
| 20:00.27 | AsaPhelps | i don't think people are allowed to sell maps |
| 20:00.28 | P_R_Deltoid | never thought it'd be so hard to make a stupid damage effect work |
| 20:00.33 | P_R_Deltoid | Not yet. |
| 20:00.46 | AsaPhelps | for the search area in damage, try changing the fraction from 0 to 1 |
| 20:00.53 | Vailreth | are you in a tabbed view ore a table view on the right side of the editor? |
| 20:00.53 | allenmellon | cool snake game by pakaran |
| 20:00.57 | sugoi | AsaPhelps: i swear i read that bliz releases the rights so you can makes games from it |
| 20:01.03 | P_R_Deltoid | Actually, I changed that up. It now periodically doe sa search with the damage |
| 20:01.07 | P_R_Deltoid | so it's irrelevant |
| 20:01.09 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 20:01.10 | P_R_Deltoid | it's weird |
| 20:01.24 | AsaPhelps | well you had the fraction 0 |
| 20:01.24 | Charmzz | im in the data window |
| 20:01.25 | P_R_Deltoid | I excluded neutral |
| 20:01.26 | P_R_Deltoid | yet |
| 20:01.29 | P_R_Deltoid | they are killing each other |
| 20:01.31 | P_R_Deltoid | on team neutral |
| 20:01.51 | Charmzz | my starport copy is selected and there are more options on the right side of the window |
| 20:01.53 | sugoi | Sixen: do you know if egod is going to release diablo open or protected? |
| 20:02.05 | Vailreth | yes but the data window has two view modes table and tabbed |
| 20:02.18 | Charmzz | looks like tabbed |
| 20:02.22 | Charmzz | cuz theres tabs :P |
| 20:02.26 | Vailreth | ok |
| 20:03.06 | Vailreth | on top of the tabs do you see something that says unit name and on the right of that says starport? |
| 20:03.24 | P_R_Deltoid | man |
| 20:03.25 | Charmzz | yea token and starport copy |
| 20:03.49 | sugoi | AsaPhelps: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/blizzard-you-may-sell-your-starcraft-2-maps-on-battlenet-eventually/ |
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| 20:04.26 | Charmzz | btw thanks for your help vail :D |
| 20:04.43 | Vailreth | ok you should be good then.. i would go to the terrain editor and try placing the new structure to see if every thing is working... you may have to change the modles that the actor is referencing though |
| 20:04.49 | Demonette | Does someone know if there will come some more SC1 Models for SC2? |
| 20:05.01 | Demonette | like the dragooner and the defiler and stuff? |
| 20:05.08 | Demonette | or are they really gone? |
| 20:05.08 | P_R_Deltoid | fuck this, I know it has something to do with impact and launch locations but shit |
| 20:05.09 | Vailreth | glad to help, i am not perfect with the data either though so |
| 20:05.12 | P_R_Deltoid | too many variables |
| 20:05.14 | Charmzz | well i still havent linked it to the unit copy i made with the stat changes |
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| 20:05.28 | Corbo | hai |
| 20:05.45 | Vailreth | ah. |
| 20:06.14 | Vailreth | well then double click starport copy and select the name of your new unit from the dropdown. |
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| 20:06.45 | Demonette | mmmhh so no one knows or nobody is interessted in ^^ |
| 20:06.46 | Charmzz | k im on unit properties |
| 20:06.54 | Charmzz | object properties* |
| 20:07.13 | AsaPhelps | blizzard may sell your map, you won't be selling it |
| 20:07.33 | Vailreth | i dont use the tabbed view much ...i like the table view .. |
| 20:07.45 | Charmzz | how do u change to table view |
| 20:08.04 | Charmzz | ahh table view |
| 20:08.18 | Charmzz | :P |
| 20:09.01 | Charmzz | k well i double clicked starport copy on the left side and object properties came up |
| 20:09.17 | Charmzz | where in that window can i find my edited unit ? |
| 20:09.31 | AsaPhelps | more than half the threads on the blizz forums say they hate them |
| 20:09.35 | Vailreth | i think you clicked the wrong one |
| 20:09.41 | Charmzz | o |
| 20:10.30 | Vailreth | you want a window that says Token Value |
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| 20:10.30 | Charmzz | hm i found token properties |
| 20:10.37 | Charmzz | o got it |
| 20:10.41 | Vailreth | ok. |
| 20:11.21 | Vailreth | there are days i miss WC3 but the power of this editor is sow intoxicating .. |
| 20:12.16 | sugoi | anyone know the variable that .... when my camera is following a unit and he moves left to right, the camera 'slowly' pulls to catch up |
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| 20:12.24 | sugoi | i'd like to remove that 'follow' speed |
| 20:12.29 | Charmzz | ok |
| 20:12.39 | Charmzz | should they be linked now?. |
| 20:12.43 | Vailreth | yes |
| 20:12.45 | Charmzz | kk |
| 20:12.50 | Fromethius | does anyone know for levels 2 and 3 of my neural parasite the tentacle extends almost vertically in to the air and then flashes to the extending to the unit animation? this is as opposed to the level 1 version of the ability where it extends from the infestor to the unit normally without first going up in the air |
| 20:12.51 | Charmzz | ill spawn it real quick |
| 20:13.27 | Fromethius | i have checked, double checked, and triple checked the actors for the different effects and everything matches up |
| 20:13.41 | Fromethius | the animation extends to the unit, but for some reason the tentacle goes up in to the air first.. |
| 20:14.00 | sugoi | Fromethius: what if the unit is nearby? |
| 20:14.03 | Charmzz | hm |
| 20:14.07 | Fromethius | same thing |
| 20:14.11 | sugoi | are you testing this with the unit far away? maybe the up in the ... |
| 20:14.13 | Charmzz | now instead of nothing it gives me a black circle |
| 20:14.15 | sugoi | ok, nvm then :) |
| 20:14.16 | Charmzz | >.< |
| 20:14.16 | Vailreth | you will likely have to set the models its refrencing back to the starport model |
| 20:14.24 | Charmzz | ok |
| 20:14.27 | sugoi | perhaps the up length is a % of the total range |
| 20:14.32 | sugoi | would seem dumb |
| 20:14.33 | Fromethius | nope |
| 20:14.40 | Charmzz | so back to data screel and do it under the unit section? |
| 20:14.54 | Vailreth | back to actors under data |
| 20:15.00 | sugoi | Fromethius: maybe it's just broken :) |
| 20:15.05 | Charmzz | k actores |
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| 20:15.17 | overload119 | how do you get aknock back effect |
| 20:15.22 | overload119 | like the Utlralisk has in Left 4 Dead |
| 20:15.35 | SD|GhosT | there is an ultralisk in Left 4 dead? |
| 20:15.35 | overload119 | ive tried using the Apply Force, but it barely moves the target. |
| 20:15.46 | AsaPhelps | did you try using a big force? |
| 20:15.48 | overload119 | the SC2 Left 4 Dead. |
| 20:15.49 | overload119 | Yeah |
| 20:15.55 | overload119 | A huge force, a small fraction, i've tried everyone. |
| 20:15.58 | overload119 | everything |
| 20:16.06 | sugoi | didn't try me |
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| 20:16.38 | Charmzz | ok |
| 20:16.44 | Charmzz | i fixed the model |
| 20:17.12 | Charmzz | ok |
| 20:17.27 | Vailreth | so everything is looking good? |
| 20:17.30 | Charmzz | so vail i can use this to make all my other units? |
| 20:17.32 | Charmzz | yea |
| 20:17.58 | Charmzz | id kinda like to test it but i feel like the triggers are messed up and will just kick me out from the start |
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| 20:18.31 | AsaPhelps | what about effect - amount one, mass fraction .5 |
| 20:18.57 | overload119 | Um |
| 20:18.59 | overload119 | I'll try that now. |
| 20:19.11 | Vailreth | you can use the same steps to create your other units yes... but i am not good with triggers all i can advise you to do is disable the default trigger in the trigger editor. |
| 20:19.40 | Charmzz | yea |
| 20:19.59 | Charmzz | i removed that and put in one to spawn the inital unit |
| 20:20.09 | Charmzz | did u ever play battleships in WC3? |
| 20:20.15 | Vailreth | no. |
| 20:20.22 | Charmzz | oh |
| 20:20.39 | Vailreth | never heard of it really. |
| 20:20.43 | Charmzz | well basically u got a boat and there were 2 lanes running N&S |
| 20:20.53 | SD|GhosT | rename custom resource... how/where? |
| 20:20.55 | Charmzz | lanes pushed kinda liek dota |
| 20:21.15 | Charmzz | but in this u used the money to get weapons that shot based on proximity |
| 20:21.22 | Vailreth | SD|GhosT: Text editor |
| 20:21.35 | Charmzz | so you could have 6 weapons shooting on their own to the closest target |
| 20:21.44 | Vailreth | Charmzz: ah. |
| 20:21.48 | Charmzz | ya |
| 20:21.52 | SD|GhosT | Vailreth - and what am i opening? |
| 20:21.59 | Charmzz | so im tryin to do the same thing with spaceships |
| 20:22.36 | Charmzz | how do i set alliances? |
| 20:22.53 | LordAbyss | hmm |
| 20:22.58 | LordAbyss | i can't find what mission i missed |
| 20:23.00 | LordAbyss | im 25/26 |
| 20:23.04 | SD|GhosT | Charmzz: trigger |
| 20:23.07 | Charmzz | secret mission |
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| 20:23.19 | LordAbyss | how do you get to it? |
| 20:23.25 | Charmzz | in the level where u do the suprise attack with odin |
| 20:23.32 | Charmzz | below the right base |
| 20:23.39 | Charmzz | there is a science building |
| 20:23.43 | Charmzz | like in sc1 |
| 20:23.55 | Vailreth | SD|GhosT: you will need to go to the sc2core mod and edit the custom resource entries |
| 20:24.03 | LordAbyss | do i kill it or what? |
| 20:24.08 | Charmzz | u blow it up and it drops a data disk and tells u that u unlocked a secret mission |
| 20:24.08 | Charmzz | ya |
| 20:24.12 | LordAbyss | kk |
| 20:24.14 | LordAbyss | thanks |
| 20:24.22 | Charmzz | but u have to do it during the campaign |
| 20:24.32 | Charmzz | like idk if u can do it once u beat the game |
| 20:24.43 | SD|GhosT | Vailreth: i assume that means that if published others would not see the change? |
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| 20:25.10 | Vailreth | no when you edit them it creates entries in your mod or mapfile that override the defualt |
| 20:25.39 | Vailreth | but you will need to alter the custom resource tooltip as well |
| 20:25.58 | Vailreth | which is a little harder to find |
| 20:25.58 | SD|GhosT | Vailreth: i see you mean the in-editor text editor... ;-) |
| 20:26.04 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 20:26.27 | Vailreth | sorry if i wasnt clear, |
| 20:26.29 | Pierrot | Hi all! |
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| 20:26.45 | SD|GhosT | np i figured it out haha |
| 20:27.27 | AsaPhelps | anyone know if its possible to make a missile retarget if the thing it gets shot at dies |
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| 20:28.42 | Pierrot | Asaphelps : good question... might be doable |
| 20:28.48 | sugoi | AsaPhelps: brainstorming, trigger on death and retarget missles? |
| 20:28.48 | Pierrot | with a checking system |
| 20:29.11 | AsaPhelps | and what would that involve |
| 20:29.20 | Pierrot | Asaphelps : hook effect |
| 20:29.23 | Pierrot | search area |
| 20:29.30 | Pierrot | and behavior |
| 20:30.18 | AsaPhelps | hook effect hmm |
| 20:30.21 | Charmzz | Thx for the help ill be on some day :P |
| 20:30.27 | Pierrot | :) |
| 20:30.31 | Vailreth | np |
| 20:30.32 | Pierrot | you r welcome |
| 20:30.41 | Pierrot | right now i m working on a hero attack |
| 20:30.58 | sugoi | overload119: got the knock back working? |
| 20:30.58 | Pierrot | whose damage lower the farther the target is |
| 20:31.18 | overload119 | Um, still tinkering. |
| 20:31.18 | sugoi | Pierrot: what is your strategy? |
| 20:31.40 | Pierrot | well 2 parts : 1 is for the effect |
| 20:31.49 | Pierrot | with a timed life |
| 20:31.57 | Pierrot | or maybe behavior count |
| 20:32.12 | Pierrot | and then each sec a behavior is apply to the missile |
| 20:32.23 | sugoi | which reduces the dmg? |
| 20:32.25 | Pierrot | and the damages are done with a validator |
| 20:32.26 | overload119 | K, still not working. |
| 20:32.36 | Pierrot | no the behavior is just a hook |
| 20:32.48 | sugoi | i need to learn about behaviors |
| 20:32.54 | sugoi | that's tonight's reading :) |
| 20:33.02 | Pierrot | they are quite polyvalent |
| 20:33.11 | AsaPhelps | where do you modify hooks, movers? |
| 20:33.15 | Pierrot | I made a custom ressource a crafting system using them |
| 20:33.36 | overload119 | I figured out how to do it though |
| 20:33.41 | overload119 | You have to create a persistent effect. |
| 20:33.42 | sugoi | oh!? |
| 20:33.48 | overload119 | The Apply Force can only be used for very small movements. |
| 20:33.49 | sugoi | k |
| 20:33.55 | sugoi | ok |
| 20:34.06 | overload119 | You create a persistent effect that occurs say 10 periods, that'll move it "10" ticks of a force. |
| 20:34.09 | sugoi | overload119: apply force is from what? |
| 20:34.11 | sugoi | btw |
| 20:34.18 | overload119 | Apply Force is a Effect Type. |
| 20:34.23 | sugoi | k |
| 20:34.49 | sugoi | do you think the persistent-force is how bliz made the uberlisk? |
| 20:35.00 | sugoi | +deatch effect |
| 20:35.04 | sugoi | death* |
| 20:35.50 | sugoi | Pierrot: i'm not sure what you mean by 'crafting system' likely due to typos, can you clarify? |
| 20:36.13 | Vailreth | HOT DAMN there is a way |
| 20:36.14 | Pierrot | do you know the settlers or anno or Dwarf fortress games ? |
| 20:36.29 | sugoi | yes (df) |
| 20:36.33 | Pierrot | well |
| 20:36.39 | Pierrot | i made a system like it |
| 20:36.43 | Pierrot | a bed |
| 20:36.56 | sugoi | so game runtime tool that allows custom objects to be made? |
| 20:36.56 | Pierrot | wich require X resources |
| 20:37.17 | Pierrot | let say I want to make a rocket launcher |
| 20:37.36 | Pierrot | i splitted the rocket launcher into oparts |
| 20:38.10 | sugoi | Vailreth: way to do what? |
| 20:38.34 | Vailreth | to have minerals regen their resource amounts |
| 20:38.56 | Pierrot | it required a rocket (which is made from a metal tube, explosive , guidage system these items also need different item) |
| 20:39.08 | Pierrot | each item has a Item type aura |
| 20:39.20 | Pierrot | which i Used to trigger effect |
| 20:40.09 | sugoi | Pierrot: i see, and you're using a 'store/shop' in which you place these built/aquired items, which enables the store to build new items? |
| 20:40.27 | sugoi | Vailreth: triiger? data mod? |
| 20:40.33 | Vailreth | data |
| 20:41.01 | Pierrot | sugoi : no store are needed |
| 20:41.07 | sugoi | did you have to add something (e.g. effect) |
| 20:41.16 | AsaPhelps | vali what are you doing? |
| 20:41.20 | sugoi | Pierrot: who/what combines and builds the new items? |
| 20:41.29 | Pierrot | workshop |
| 20:41.35 | sugoi | well that's what i meant |
| 20:41.43 | Pierrot | yup |
| 20:41.45 | sugoi | store/shop (workshop) |
| 20:41.50 | Pierrot | the item were on the floor |
| 20:41.50 | sugoi | k, cool idea :D |
| 20:42.07 | Lyrrad | It can be done, its done in SotIS |
| 20:42.16 | wOlfLinG | I have a theory about why the JaynesTown cheat code isn't working. |
| 20:42.24 | sugoi | Vailreth: did you have to add something to the data? (like an effect) |
| 20:42.43 | sugoi | Jayne is a girl's name |
| 20:42.48 | Vailreth | yes i had to use a modify unit effect |
| 20:42.56 | wOlfLinG | Could it be the const int c_gameCheatEventResourceCustom = 11; code? ie. giving resources that isn't used ingame? |
| 20:43.03 | sugoi | Vailreth: the mineral is a unit? |
| 20:43.04 | Lyrrad | Say that again and I'll show you I have man parts |
| 20:43.04 | Vailreth | Asa I am working on a Tiberium style Map |
| 20:43.16 | Vailreth | and minerals are considered units yep |
| 20:43.43 | Vailreth | brb while i test |
| 20:44.01 | sugoi | Vailreth: what invokes the effect? |
| 20:44.08 | sugoi | or is it persistent |
| 20:44.32 | Vailreth | i am using a buff on the minerals that activates the effect periodicly |
| 20:44.50 | sugoi | what starts the buff? |
| 20:45.16 | sugoi | i'm just super interested in this idea |
| 20:45.24 | sugoi | might be faster if you explain the whole chain :) |
| 20:45.43 | sugoi | takes note of 'Vailreth's irc handle to give credit later |
| 20:46.39 | ubdead | hey guys |
| 20:46.51 | ubdead | anybody online with Marker experience? |
| 20:46.51 | Vailreth | i gave the mineral field unit two extra buffs one that creates more mineral fields when the resources are full and one that causes the resouces to regen every thrity seconds by ten percent |
| 20:47.28 | sugoi | any weed killer? |
| 20:47.37 | ubdead | Nukes ;D |
| 20:47.42 | sugoi | heh |
| 20:47.57 | sugoi | ubdead: marker? |
| 20:48.07 | ubdead | yes Markers |
| 20:48.12 | ubdead | they are used for effects |
| 20:48.32 | ubdead | for example |
| 20:48.38 | ubdead | they are used for the mutalisk attack |
| 20:48.43 | ubdead | so they hit each target only once |
| 20:49.00 | ubdead | a Marker can be read out during the chain |
| 20:49.03 | ubdead | of an event |
| 20:49.09 | ubdead | or even between effects |
| 20:49.28 | ubdead | it's really good stuff, only need to figure out how it REALLY works |
| 20:49.28 | r9k | Cool stuff |
| 20:49.42 | sugoi | ubdead: how would you contrast that to a validator |
| 20:50.17 | sugoi | Vailreth: so are these 2 buffs permanent? |
| 20:50.27 | sugoi | as in, passive |
| 20:50.28 | ubdead | well a validator could be used, but you'd have to create an extra behavior buff for each effect you'd have |
| 20:50.32 | Vailreth | yes but one has a validator |
| 20:50.37 | goomba_ | hi eveyrone |
| 20:50.38 | ubdead | so a marker is much more confinient |
| 20:50.49 | ubdead | and more dynamic |
| 20:51.10 | sugoi | again, need to read about behaviors (it's been in the topic for the last 5 conversations) |
| 20:51.29 | sugoi | this last weekend was my start, i'm trying to learn fast |
| 20:52.04 | ubdead | oh behaviors are like the triggers of data editor |
| 20:52.21 | sugoi | OH |
| 20:52.30 | ubdead | and one of the things i like most about the data editor |
| 20:52.36 | sugoi | i literally just looked up as i got that |
| 20:52.59 | ubdead | i made this map where this unit is fully automated (AI) with just behaviors |
| 20:53.00 | goomba_ | I SAID HI EVERYONE GODDAMNIT |
| 20:53.05 | `MindWorX | ubdead, Your tutorial rocks |
| 20:53.06 | ubdead | HELLO FUCKING GOOMBA |
| 20:53.10 | ubdead | haha thanks |
| 20:53.17 | goomba_ | sup |
| 20:53.19 | Vailreth | Yes IT WORKS |
| 20:53.21 | sugoi | so i wanna share something i learned! if life is an ability cost, it won't kill you |
| 20:53.25 | sugoi | that seems hard coded |
| 20:53.27 | `MindWorX | FUCKING HI GOOOOOOOOMBAAAAAA! How's bowser? |
| 20:53.33 | sugoi | hi goomba_ |
| 20:53.49 | ubdead | sugoi thats IS good to know |
| 20:53.49 | sugoi | Vailreth: nicely done :) |
| 20:54.04 | sugoi | ubdead: i was testing my knowledge by messing with the stimpack |
| 20:54.10 | sugoi | i wanted it to kill the marine |
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| 20:54.19 | ubdead | so stimpacks cant kill a marine? |
| 20:54.22 | Lyrrad | murderer |
| 20:54.25 | goomba_ | bowsers alright man |
| 20:54.34 | sugoi | ubdead: default its a abil cost |
| 20:54.38 | goomba_ | the union was up his ass the other day about payraises and working conditions and whatnot |
| 20:54.46 | goomba_ | so now he's looking for peach some more |
| 20:54.50 | ubdead | lol xD |
| 20:54.53 | sugoi | so, remove the abil cost, make a effect set, effect 1 default stimpack effect, new effect (damage effect) to remove 10 life |
| 20:54.56 | sugoi | done |
| 20:55.00 | goomba_ | you know, after she filed that restraining order |
| 20:55.07 | goomba_ | we all really figured he back off but |
| 20:55.08 | ubdead | when i was young, i wanted to become a plumber because of mario |
| 20:55.11 | ubdead | glad that didnt work out |
| 20:55.11 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/mission-1-landung-auf-new-eden/. Mission 1 Landung auf New Eden. Kyrillion (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 20:55.12 | goomba_ | i guess he really loves her... |
| 20:55.16 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/urban-control/. Urban-Control. Molotow87 (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 20:55.20 | AsaPhelps | if you want stimpack to kill you you can just make it cause damage |
| 20:55.27 | AsaPhelps | its the same as if you have no energy you can't cast |
| 20:55.38 | ubdead | ah right |
| 20:55.43 | ubdead | didn't know that |
| 20:55.50 | ubdead | (I don't play terran much hehe) |
| 20:55.51 | sugoi | AsaPhelps: are we saying different things? |
| 20:55.52 | Fromethius | does anyone know what the actor event action RefSet TentacleAttack ::Self does? i cannot find where TentacleAttack originates in the data editor |
| 20:55.57 | AsaPhelps | no but I read slow |
| 20:56.01 | sugoi | haha |
| 20:56.02 | sugoi | well |
| 20:56.13 | `MindWorX | lol goomba :P |
| 20:56.19 | sugoi | kindly: restatement often sounds like a correction |
| 20:56.30 | ubdead | Fromethius thats because the Tentacle is attached to the base unit |
| 20:56.30 | AsaPhelps | if you read the uberlisk guy they have tentacle attack or something like that, i have no idea how they add it in but it you follow it it does it |
| 20:56.34 | ubdead | it's quite complicated |
| 20:56.38 | Fromethius | oh, i know |
| 20:56.47 | Fromethius | i found out that if i delete that actor event |
| 20:56.53 | LordAbyss | so i unlocked the secret mission |
| 20:56.54 | Fromethius | it breaks my the level 1 version of my ability |
| 20:56.55 | LordAbyss | but i can't find it |
| 20:57.01 | sugoi | is the uberlisk in an open map!? |
| 20:57.01 | Fromethius | so it looks like the level 2 and 3 version |
| 20:57.01 | ubdead | spoiler alert |
| 20:57.04 | LordAbyss | in mission archive since i already beat the campaign |
| 20:57.08 | Fromethius | (trying to fix the level 2 and 3 version) |
| 20:57.30 | ubdead | sugoi well a fan-made one ye |
| 20:57.31 | ubdead | s |
| 20:57.32 | goomba_ | i really wanna go back and swap some tech upgrades |
| 20:57.34 | ubdead | not the orginal |
| 20:57.35 | goomba_ | like armory shit |
| 20:57.38 | goomba_ | and research |
| 20:57.40 | sugoi | ubdead: do you play with camera effects? |
| 20:57.45 | *** join/#sc2mapster RoyalFool (~royalfool@89-160-134-131.du.xdsl.is) |
| 20:57.47 | goomba_ | just to try some of the modfied units |
| 20:57.49 | sugoi | ubdead: does it have the death effect? |
| 20:57.50 | ubdead | no haven't yet |
| 20:58.08 | ubdead | sugoi if you are interested in death events |
| 20:58.09 | sugoi | which question? haha |
| 20:58.12 | ubdead | look up the banelings |
| 20:58.27 | ubdead | and no i haven't done anything with camera's yet |
| 20:58.28 | sugoi | ubdead: i was mostly interested in the explosion it causes |
| 20:58.34 | sugoi | but i'll check the banelings too |
| 20:58.43 | ubdead | the shockwave? |
| 20:58.47 | sugoi | yes |
| 20:58.57 | ubdead | look at the Vortex ability for the mothership |
| 20:58.59 | ubdead | and reverse it |
| 20:59.01 | ubdead | ;) |
| 20:59.03 | sugoi | ahah |
| 20:59.06 | sugoi | brilliant |
| 20:59.07 | Lyrrad | Death effects aren't that hard, I had zerglings that went nuclear when they died at one point |
| 20:59.16 | sugoi | i've learned more per minute here than in #c++ |
| 20:59.24 | ubdead | Lyrrad did they scream like terrorist too? |
| 20:59.25 | sugoi | well mostly there they just swear and whine |
| 20:59.39 | goomba_ | fun thread if youre into melee |
| 20:59.40 | goomba_ | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136010 |
| 20:59.47 | Lyrrad | do terrorists gurgle when they die? |
| 21:00.36 | sugoi | Lyrrad: i look forward to death effect mods myself, but it was the shockwave i wanted to test out first |
| 21:00.40 | sugoi | specifically |
| 21:00.41 | Vailreth | once i had something that shot zergling missles that exploded like nukes and healed everything around them |
| 21:01.01 | ubdead | lol you must have been bored |
| 21:01.03 | ubdead | or hi |
| 21:01.06 | ubdead | high* |
| 21:01.14 | Vailreth | who me? |
| 21:01.20 | madkipz | why is an accurate balance assessment thread funny ;D |
| 21:01.37 | AsaPhelps | anyone know how to apply physics to something? I thought I saw a flag or something somewhere |
| 21:01.37 | sugoi | sounds like someone got rick rolled |
| 21:01.50 | ubdead | Vailreth yes you :3 |
| 21:01.53 | goomba_ | the zvt poll is pretty crazy |
| 21:02.00 | goomba_ | 1605 votes |
| 21:02.03 | Lyrrad | I will be looking at a shockwave effect in my map in the not too far future |
| 21:02.03 | madkipz | but iz tru ;D |
| 21:02.04 | goomba_ | 72% say terran favored |
| 21:02.06 | Vailreth | i was bored ...and challenged to do it |
| 21:02.06 | ubdead | AsaPhelps physic is all fake |
| 21:02.10 | goomba_ | 20% say fairly balanced |
| 21:02.11 | sugoi | ubdead: what tutorial are people talking about in your credit |
| 21:02.14 | goomba_ | 7% say zerg favored |
| 21:02.17 | madkipz | and the rest cant play |
| 21:02.19 | goomba_ | i play zerg, so i know how it is |
| 21:02.24 | ubdead | sugoi http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ |
| 21:02.39 | madkipz | its not imbalance though |
| 21:02.42 | AsaPhelps | what do you mean fake? ub |
| 21:02.44 | madkipz | its just a matchup in favour of terran |
| 21:02.46 | Fromethius | ubdead did you get my pm? |
| 21:02.51 | goomba_ | also heres some food for thought of you play zerg in 1v1 |
| 21:02.52 | goomba_ | http://www.xfire.com/video/325a16/ |
| 21:02.53 | goomba_ | :D |
| 21:03.00 | ubdead | AsaPhelps it means it never got actually coded |
| 21:03.10 | ubdead | so you'd have to code it yourself |
| 21:03.12 | sugoi | ubdead: does that link for the sc2mapster tutorial list? |
| 21:03.15 | ubdead | Fromethius ill check |
| 21:03.15 | sugoi | because i'm reading all of those |
| 21:03.35 | ubdead | yes im in there |
| 21:03.45 | sugoi | coo, i'll get to it then soon :) |
| 21:03.50 | ubdead | great |
| 21:04.12 | AsaPhelps | whats the point of that video |
| 21:04.27 | ubdead | Fromethius i don't think i got a PM |
| 21:04.34 | Fromethius | i meant in irc |
| 21:04.41 | ubdead | oh right sorry i see it lol |
| 21:04.48 | goomba_ | people complain about thors killing invitely many mutas |
| 21:04.49 | madkipz | So i had to reduce my maps to 2 melee ones, and now im stuck improving the worst of them. I took the easy route and just made the edges water |
| 21:04.56 | madkipz | should i improve upon it |
| 21:04.57 | goomba_ | theres 50v5 only losing 4 muta |
| 21:05.02 | sugoi | invitely? |
| 21:05.07 | goomba_ | infinitely |
| 21:05.08 | goomba_ | rather |
| 21:05.28 | madkipz | 1a controlgroup would have yielded a larger loss ratio |
| 21:05.33 | madkipz | and +3 attack could have made a difference |
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| 21:05.43 | goomba_ | obviously but im tyring to prove a point :P |
| 21:05.50 | madkipz | regardless its not an accurate assessment of anything and proves nothing |
| 21:06.20 | goomba_ | it just goes to show |
| 21:06.27 | madkipz | close position thor drop comes out 30 seconds before 1onebase muta |
| 21:06.28 | madkipz | gl |
| 21:06.30 | goomba_ | if you split your mutas well you can kill thors ez |
| 21:06.52 | ubdead | hey kind of stupid question |
| 21:06.53 | goomba_ | obviously you cant split them into a perfect circle by yourself |
| 21:06.58 | ubdead | but how do i change my sc2mapster theme |
| 21:07.13 | goomba_ | im not sure i did it when it was on the news :P |
| 21:08.49 | madkipz | so what did you want to prove with 50 mutas against 5 thors? |
| 21:09.00 | madkipz | you could do the same with 10 mutas and 40 zerglings |
| 21:09.44 | goomba_ | that if you micro your mutas well they are good against thors |
| 21:10.21 | madkipz | nothing new though, sadly thors is not the only thing terran has at its disposal |
| 21:10.30 | ubdead | you know what works well against Thors? |
| 21:10.32 | ubdead | NUKES |
| 21:10.34 | ubdead | LOTS OF EM |
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| 21:10.52 | goomba_ | so if that was 50 nukes |
| 21:10.55 | goomba_ | in stead of 50 mutas |
| 21:10.57 | goomba_ | it would be better? |
| 21:11.00 | ubdead | much |
| 21:11.06 | goomba_ | i see. |
| 21:11.17 | madkipz | well its undenyable true |
| 21:11.23 | madkipz | with 50 nukes you could wipe out anyone |
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| 21:11.55 | ubdead | well you'd need ghosts |
| 21:11.55 | Blargity | Hows it going today guys |
| 21:11.59 | ubdead | peachy |
| 21:12.04 | Blargity | awesoem |
| 21:12.16 | Clord | played tons of matches "THE Card Game" custom map |
| 21:12.17 | Clord | ^^ |
| 21:12.22 | ubdead | :D |
| 21:12.27 | ubdead | did you lose a lot? |
| 21:12.33 | ubdead | i hate losing at my own maps lol |
| 21:12.33 | Clord | meh |
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| 21:14.01 | Ashamed | you know which unit blizzard left out of sc2 |
| 21:14.04 | Ashamed | i figured it out |
| 21:14.24 | ubdead | *drumroll* |
| 21:14.32 | goomba_ | reaver |
| 21:14.40 | Ashamed | besides reaver |
| 21:14.40 | sugoi | haha, yep |
| 21:14.40 | Ashamed | ! |
| 21:14.46 | ubdead | lurker |
| 21:14.50 | Ashamed | n=no |
| 21:14.52 | Armikur | valkyrie? |
| 21:14.54 | goomba_ | lurker in campaign |
| 21:14.55 | Ashamed | lurkz there |
| 21:14.56 | goomba_ | er |
| 21:14.56 | Ashamed | valk there |
| 21:14.58 | goomba_ | editor |
| 21:15.01 | ubdead | spoiler alert |
| 21:15.07 | goomba_ | its not campaign |
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| 21:15.09 | goomba_ | spoil that |
| 21:15.19 | Blargity | O_o |
| 21:15.22 | sugoi | dark archon? |
| 21:15.25 | Ashamed | everyone knows they re added the units |
| 21:15.25 | sugoi | no wait |
| 21:15.27 | sugoi | :/ |
| 21:15.31 | Ashamed | i have not checked for dark |
| 21:15.37 | Ashamed | ... but mine is corsair |
| 21:15.41 | sugoi | ah |
| 21:15.44 | sugoi | well |
| 21:15.46 | ubdead | *ba-dum-tss* |
| 21:15.53 | goomba_ | well played ubdead |
| 21:15.58 | sugoi | what about the heli-jet thing |
| 21:16.00 | sugoi | forgot the name |
| 21:16.05 | Ashamed | its there |
| 21:16.06 | Ashamed | wraith? |
| 21:16.11 | ubdead | it's in |
| 21:16.23 | sugoi | yeah but isn't it air only now..no it's groudn only |
| 21:16.26 | sugoi | unlike wraith |
| 21:16.33 | Ashamed | oh valk |
| 21:16.44 | sugoi | funny how litle i've played so little sc due to galaxy |
| 21:16.52 | Ashamed | me too |
| 21:16.55 | Ashamed | sugoi |
| 21:17.00 | Ashamed | i have only played 3 rounds of the rts |
| 21:17.06 | Ashamed | and the first level of campaign |
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| 21:17.20 | Ashamed | but i already played sc rts |
| 21:17.27 | Ashamed | i was good enough on the first one |
| 21:17.31 | Ashamed | no reason to play another one |
| 21:17.49 | Blargity | Im trying to make a 2v2/ffa map, what do you guys reccommend for the size? 128? |
| 21:18.00 | sugoi | 32x32 |
| 21:18.07 | goomba_ | 1x1 |
| 21:18.12 | Blargity | =| |
| 21:18.14 | Blargity | lol |
| 21:18.18 | goomba_ | whatever lost temple is |
| 21:18.19 | sugoi | no terrain!!1 |
| 21:18.23 | sugoi | call it "The Void" |
| 21:18.26 | sugoi | dun dun duunnnnn |
| 21:18.28 | Blargity | we just gotta think about who wins? |
| 21:18.54 | Blargity | hmm... im thinking im speedling rushing you... Oh, bunkers? naw, i skirt around them and kill all your scv's GG |
| 21:19.06 | Blargity | =D |
| 21:19.41 | goomba_ | whats a thor cost exaclty |
| 21:19.47 | goomba_ | 300/200? |
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| 21:22.19 | madkipz | yes something like that |
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| 21:23.24 | madkipz | i have evolved the 2 gate early agression against zerg ;D woootch |
| 21:23.33 | madkipz | LO AND BEHOLD THE 3 GATE ! |
| 21:25.01 | goomba_ | fear the early roach |
| 21:25.08 | AsaPhelps | you should spine crawler rush |
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| 21:25.26 | goomba_ | only works in zvz |
| 21:25.39 | Lyrrad | you could rush the lair too |
| 21:25.46 | AsaPhelps | can spine crawlers go into nydus cancals? |
| 21:25.48 | goomba_ | overlord creep :P |
| 21:25.49 | AsaPhelps | canals |
| 21:25.49 | Lyrrad | and use an overlord to crap in their base |
| 21:25.54 | goomba_ | i dont think so asa |
| 21:26.02 | AsaPhelps | that'd be awesome if they could |
| 21:26.54 | AsaPhelps | I saw a replay once |
| 21:27.02 | AsaPhelps | the guy just made queens and crawlers |
| 21:27.10 | AsaPhelps | like 300 spire/spore crawlers |
| 21:27.17 | madkipz | hahah |
| 21:27.24 | madkipz | phear mass voidrayzzz |
| 21:27.25 | AsaPhelps | it was awesome |
| 21:27.46 | madkipz | or even immortals would probably tear that up |
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| 21:28.34 | Lyrrad | the crawlers don't use supply, might be possible to just get so many... |
| 21:28.42 | AsaPhelps | ^ |
| 21:29.08 | AsaPhelps | or siege tanks |
| 21:29.20 | AsaPhelps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wry6Vu8oWqo&feature=related thats the last part of the replay, it was a ffa |
| 21:29.36 | AsaPhelps | the commenatator is no husky |
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| 21:31.22 | hakowy | hello, where is lurker in sc2 editor, i cant find him |
| 21:31.44 | hakowy | also cant add any 'character' its just blank |
| 21:31.58 | AsaPhelps | did you add the campaign dependecies? |
| 21:32.05 | InsaneElite | You need to activate the Campaign dependency. |
| 21:32.12 | InsaneElite | Go to File -> Dependencies. |
| 21:32.30 | hakowy | Liberty Mod ? |
| 21:32.35 | InsaneElite | If there's no Campaign options there, click Add Standard, and check both Campaign options. |
| 21:32.36 | hakowy | or Liberty Multi mod |
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| 21:32.50 | hakowy | ok thank you! |
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| 21:36.25 | QuaYeR | how can i copie an unit with model? |
| 21:36.30 | QuaYeR | *copy |
| 21:38.06 | InsaneElite | Anybody know how to make units load into a transport? |
| 21:38.32 | AsaPhelps | anyone know much about issuing orders? |
| 21:38.47 | InsaneElite | Can you be more specific on what you're trying to do, Asa? |
| 21:38.56 | AsaPhelps | want the short version or the long one? |
| 21:39.02 | InsaneElite | Either one works. |
| 21:39.06 | AsaPhelps | Long it is |
| 21:39.16 | AsaPhelps | did you ever see the time bomb the mothership used to have? |
| 21:39.29 | InsaneElite | Yes. |
| 21:39.35 | AsaPhelps | okay well i got most of it done, |
| 21:39.49 | hakowy | its possible to play a map when it isnt published? |
| 21:39.51 | AsaPhelps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QVBHq4PnAY |
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| 21:40.03 | AsaPhelps | but what I'm struggling with is making the missiles"drop" to the ground at the end |
| 21:40.24 | hakowy | are there any maps for 1 player i can download and play? |
| 21:40.30 | AsaPhelps | so I was thinking about making them morph into another unit with the same mover |
| 21:40.34 | AsaPhelps | i mean, different mover |
| 21:40.52 | AsaPhelps | I can't figure out how to change their heights, and creating a dummy unit doesn't create them at a precise location enough |
| 21:41.01 | AsaPhelps | so tldr, I want a unit to morph once an effect on them wears off |
| 21:41.31 | QuaYeR | hakowy |
| 21:41.39 | AsaPhelps | I have an issue order effect to use changling morph to zealot |
| 21:41.45 | AsaPhelps | but i dont think it works |
| 21:41.56 | hakowy | yes? |
| 21:42.26 | QuaYeR | u mean on battlenet? |
| 21:42.54 | AsaPhelps | so thats the situation insane :3 |
| 21:43.20 | hakowy | hm yes i think |
| 21:43.46 | QuaYeR | select "private" in that publish window |
| 21:44.06 | QuaYeR | u can open ur map on battl.net and invaite friends |
| 21:44.14 | Blargity | when placing units/buildings on a map, is there any way i can see the build grid? |
| 21:44.17 | InsaneElite | Well, hrm. |
| 21:44.36 | AsaPhelps | there's a grid blarg |
| 21:44.40 | AsaPhelps | i forget the hotkey |
| 21:44.48 | Blargity | ill tak e alook then |
| 21:44.48 | AsaPhelps | well its g |
| 21:44.51 | Vailreth | asa how did you get the missles to freeze in the air like that? |
| 21:44.51 | AsaPhelps | that was easy |
| 21:44.57 | AsaPhelps | movement supression |
| 21:45.03 | AsaPhelps | turn supression |
| 21:45.07 | Blargity | found it lol |
| 21:45.08 | hakowy | ok |
| 21:45.10 | AsaPhelps | I tried time scale but they still move fast |
| 21:45.19 | hakowy | and maybe you know are there any maps for 1 player i can play? |
| 21:45.28 | QuaYeR | strg +shift + h |
| 21:45.32 | hakowy | like lost vikings in campaing |
| 21:45.35 | AsaPhelps | planetary boss fortress? |
| 21:45.36 | QuaYeR | *ctrl |
| 21:45.40 | ubdead | AsaPhelps hey asa |
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| 21:45.47 | ubdead | you in trouble with the mover? |
| 21:46.04 | AsaPhelps | well i have 2 movers |
| 21:46.12 | ubdead | i got a trick for the missile to keep flying |
| 21:46.23 | AsaPhelps | flying how? |
| 21:46.35 | ubdead | well they don't hit the ground |
| 21:46.35 | ubdead | ever |
| 21:46.42 | goomba_ | hmm |
| 21:46.47 | AsaPhelps | but i want it to hit the ground :( |
| 21:46.53 | QuaYeR | i there any income tutorial? |
| 21:46.54 | goomba_ | with i tiny bit of micro i can get 15 mutas to kill 5 thors |
| 21:47.09 | AsaPhelps | thors blow for aa |
| 21:47.09 | hakowy | Quayer so to play any maps also on singleplayer(versus AI) i have to publish it before? |
| 21:47.19 | ubdead | oh nevermind then hehe |
| 21:47.21 | AsaPhelps | how many tier 3 units can attack air though |
| 21:47.24 | AsaPhelps | thor, carrier |
| 21:47.26 | AsaPhelps | is that it? |
| 21:47.37 | InsaneElite | BC. |
| 21:47.41 | goomba_ | missile turret |
| 21:47.43 | AsaPhelps | bc too |
| 21:47.45 | QuaYeR | u can test ur map with the test map button in the editor |
| 21:47.52 | AsaPhelps | well thats better aa than zerg tier 3 |
| 21:48.04 | goomba_ | zerg aa is fine |
| 21:48.06 | hakowy | so its the only way? |
| 21:48.09 | goomba_ | hydras rape almost all air |
| 21:48.14 | hakowy | ok thanks |
| 21:48.24 | goomba_ | mutas are good on vrs, vikings |
| 21:48.25 | QuaYeR | test map button or private publish |
| 21:48.34 | goomba_ | corrupters raaaape bcs and carriers |
| 21:48.48 | goomba_ | also colossus :P |
| 21:48.58 | ubdead | AsaPhelps ah i've seen the movie now |
| 21:49.00 | ubdead | looks nice |
| 21:49.09 | QuaYeR | need an income tutorial xD |
| 21:49.10 | ubdead | i like that the spines still kill him tbh :D |
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| 21:52.06 | RodOfNOD | weeeee |
| 21:52.09 | RodOfNOD | my pc lives |
| 21:55.04 | Lasion | Your PC has been dead? >_> |
| 21:55.16 | Lasion | Zombie-PC will feast on your brain tonight. |
| 21:55.38 | depthsofchaos | ok can someone tell me why does my custom texture appear black on ultra shader settings |
| 21:55.40 | depthsofchaos | ? |
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| 21:56.41 | Vailreth | hey RodOfNOD glad your pc is good...i figured out how to make minerals regen their resources and when at max spawn new mineral fields |
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| 22:00.03 | RodOfNOD | wee |
| 22:00.09 | goomba_ | ok heres part two, more convincing this time |
| 22:00.14 | goomba_ | 15 mutas vs 5 thors |
| 22:00.14 | goomba_ | http://www.xfire.com/video/325b9d/ |
| 22:01.00 | Vailreth | hey RodofNOD i have minerals that start snalll building up to a max anount and when at max spawn new small minerals |
| 22:01.26 | AsaPhelps | but what if you have 5 mutas vs 5 thors |
| 22:01.32 | Fromethius | anyone here good with actors? i have a problem with my neural parasite where the animation is not playing properly at levels 2 and 3 |
| 22:01.35 | RodOfNOD | lol sas |
| 22:01.54 | goomba_ | you would probably lose your mutas at that point |
| 22:02.14 | RodOfNOD | sas = asa |
| 22:04.00 | Fromethius | ~seen prozaicmuze |
| 22:04.06 | purl | prozaicmuze <~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 17h 27m 55s ago, saying: '@Asa - The only way to change a missile's speed is with its mover. '. |
| 22:04.06 | depthsofchaos | ok can someone tell me why does my custom texture appear black on ultra shader settings |
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| 22:04.40 | goomba_ | ~seen pm|afk |
| 22:04.40 | purl | i haven't seen 'pm|afk', goomba_ |
| 22:04.44 | goomba_ | oh |
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| 22:10.03 | mckay | Hey guys |
| 22:10.27 | AsaPhelps | the last thing he said was to me |
| 22:10.30 | AsaPhelps | i feel so special |
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| 22:13.30 | RodOfNOD | goomba make me a VDmon u goombafiend! |
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| 22:18.30 | slightlyrandom | Does updating a map reset it's popularity ? |
| 22:19.44 | allenmelon | is there a sandbox map where i can just practice some skills? |
| 22:19.51 | allenmelon | without a computer ai attacking me? |
| 22:22.50 | RodOfNOD | just make ur own map allenmelon |
| 22:22.51 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 22:22.58 | allenmelon | also |
| 22:23.14 | allenmelon | is there a game online, any kind, that would help practice your mouse/hand accuracy? |
| 22:23.25 | allenmelon | cause i just got a new mouse, and im trying to get used to the sensitivity and all |
| 22:23.39 | RodOfNOD | im sure there is |
| 22:23.50 | RodOfNOD | google |
| 22:23.54 | RodOfNOD | will be your friend |
| 22:23.54 | Grum | why not just set it as before allenmelon? O.o |
| 22:24.14 | RodOfNOD | google up "increase sc apm" |
| 22:24.18 | RodOfNOD | im sure u will find lots of shit |
| 22:24.46 | slightlyrandom | Well, why not just run through the challenge missions allenmelon ? |
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| 22:29.31 | Fromethius | anyone here good with actors |
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| 22:33.04 | QuaYeR | how can i creat a player group? |
| 22:33.26 | sugoi | QuaYeR: you could write a custom function |
| 22:33.45 | QuaYeR | how? |
| 22:33.49 | RodOfNOD | what do u mean how do u create a player gorup |
| 22:33.50 | RodOfNOD | group |
| 22:34.26 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.48 | QuaYeR | i want player 1-4 as allies |
| 22:35.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dashkal (~dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 22:35.08 | sugoi | you could say allies with player 1 |
| 22:35.10 | QuaYeR | but don want so many actions for player 1 and 2 allies and 3 and 4 |
| 22:35.23 | sugoi | what? |
| 22:35.28 | QuaYeR | sry xD |
| 22:35.42 | QuaYeR | i can find "player 1 and 2 as allies" only |
| 22:35.59 | RodOfNOD | u need to be more clear in what u want QuaYeR |
| 22:36.25 | sugoi | i thought there was a player group function that saying "Player [1] Allies" |
| 22:36.33 | sugoi | i'm not at home, so i can't check |
| 22:36.38 | QuaYeR | ok sry for my english.... i want player 1,2,3 and 4 as allies, and player 5,6,7 and 8 |
| 22:37.13 | RodOfNOD | every time u host the map u want this QuaYeR? |
| 22:37.24 | QuaYeR | yes automatically |
| 22:37.59 | RodOfNOD | go to menu - Map - Player properties should do what u want |
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| 22:38.11 | ekcolnvkol | anyone figure out why tank wars was taken down? |
| 22:38.21 | slightlyrandom | Bad language |
| 22:38.26 | ekcolnovkol | what kind of langauge |
| 22:38.33 | AsaPhelps | blizzard doesn't support wars |
| 22:38.35 | RodOfNOD | it had the word war in it |
| 22:38.38 | slightlyrandom | I think he mentioned War |
| 22:38.40 | ekcolnovkol | what? |
| 22:38.47 | RodOfNOD | we are serious |
| 22:38.49 | RodOfNOD | we are not joking |
| 22:38.51 | volte | this is ridic |
| 22:38.53 | ekcolnovkol | ... wat |
| 22:38.54 | slightlyrandom | Death, War, Suicide, God, Jesus |
| 22:38.57 | ekcolnovkol | was there a statement? |
| 22:39.01 | slightlyrandom | Those kinds of words are obviously forbidden |
| 22:39.02 | RodOfNOD | i assume FUCK YOU is ok |
| 22:39.05 | s3rius | No, I am serious! |
| 22:39.05 | ekcolnovkol | well i know there was a unit in there named "Puss Gobbler" |
| 22:39.22 | ekcolnovkol | since i looked through it |
| 22:39.24 | AsaPhelps | he should've named it tanks who don't necessarily get along with each other |
| 22:39.35 | RodOfNOD | is it getting taken down by hand or by a program is the real ? |
| 22:39.54 | RodOfNOD | since u can make players NAME their own units |
| 22:39.56 | volte | AsaPhelps: they don't like big words either, "necessarily" might confuse younger players |
| 22:40.10 | sugoi | haha |
| 22:40.11 | ekcolnovkol | but, even Tychus called himself a "badass" |
| 22:40.11 | RodOfNOD | its absolutely STUPID to restrict what shit iss called |
| 22:40.23 | AsaPhelps | if you upload campaign maps I bet they'd be deemed inapprpriate |
| 22:40.24 | RodOfNOD | hell in the books tychus swears |
| 22:40.37 | ekcolnovkol | also, both Raynor and Tycus are advertisements for smoking |
| 22:40.40 | RodOfNOD | and has sex |
| 22:40.41 | AsaPhelps | you mean heck, in the books |
| 22:40.42 | ekcolnovkol | *tychus |
| 22:40.43 | RodOfNOD | i know |
| 22:40.46 | volte | welcome to the wonderful world of red-tape |
| 22:40.51 | RodOfNOD | and drinking |
| 22:40.52 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 22:40.59 | ekcolnovkol | drinking solves all problems |
| 22:41.09 | AsaPhelps | do you think if I make a forum post that I started smoking because Raynor did i'd be banned for trolling? |
| 22:41.12 | volte | yea actually I found the amount of drinking borderline offensive |
| 22:41.18 | sugoi | ha |
| 22:41.21 | volte | like, what are you teaching the kids? |
| 22:41.34 | slightlyrandom | That drinking is just as OK as murdering |
| 22:41.35 | volte | I'd rather kids go around swearing than thinking drinking lots of booze is cool |
| 22:41.38 | QuaYeR | war in map will be deleted? |
| 22:41.47 | slightlyrandom | Map will be delete if it mentions war |
| 22:41.48 | QuaYeR | *in mapname |
| 22:41.50 | volte | but maybe I'm getting old |
| 22:42.01 | QuaYeR | my map is called Hero Line War -.- |
| 22:42.11 | slightlyrandom | Apparently if you copy the Baneling ability "Baneling Suicide" your map will get deleted |
| 22:42.13 | sugoi | is offended |
| 22:42.17 | AsaPhelps | better change it to hero line hugging |
| 22:42.17 | slightlyrandom | Since Suicide is inappropriate too |
| 22:42.31 | volte | did Blizzard expect us to use the map editor to make games like Mario Cart or something? |
| 22:42.39 | AsaPhelps | yes |
| 22:42.49 | sugoi | mario cart is racist |
| 22:42.53 | slightlyrandom | Hell, they didn't give us all these guns and explosions for us to USE them |
| 22:42.56 | AsaPhelps | they'll probably ban your map if you have any death animations |
| 22:43.01 | volte | hell, iirc, a custom map made by them for WC3 was WormWars |
| 22:43.04 | volte | sugoi: I lol'd |
| 22:43.11 | sugoi | :) |
| 22:43.19 | volte | actually, I col'd |
| 22:43.24 | sugoi | heh |
| 22:43.43 | AsaPhelps | god I hope someone emulates bnet servers so we don't have to deal with bs censorship |
| 22:43.50 | volte | I should make a map with rainbows and flowers |
| 22:43.52 | AsaPhelps | though I doubt it |
| 22:43.58 | sugoi | AsaPhelps: really? |
| 22:43.58 | AsaPhelps | i'd play it |
| 22:44.05 | volte | AsaPhelps: lets hope they just come to their senses first |
| 22:44.05 | AsaPhelps | a map where you have to hug the most people |
| 22:44.07 | AsaPhelps | in a certain time |
| 22:44.09 | sugoi | i'm surprised there aren't hacks out already |
| 22:44.09 | volte | it's only been a few days |
| 22:44.16 | AsaPhelps | well if we learned anything |
| 22:44.33 | AsaPhelps | the more we complain like about real ids the more people will complain even more |
| 22:44.47 | AsaPhelps | someone said there's a crash hack |
| 22:44.52 | AsaPhelps | causes your sc2 to crash |
| 22:44.59 | volte | we could just get a petition going saying we're not going to make maps and take down all the sites etc etc (and information about making maps and tutorials etc etc) if they don't do such and such |
| 22:45.21 | volte | its a bit improbable, but you'd be surprised how much influence we could bring if we stuck together |
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| 22:45.38 | RedWraith | HAH NOW IT REALLY EXISTS |
| 22:45.39 | RedWraith | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/anti-walling-algorithm/ |
| 22:45.40 | AsaPhelps | lets find a way to create zerg |
| 22:45.42 | RedWraith | vjeux take that! |
| 22:45.46 | AsaPhelps | then release it upon blizzard hq |
| 22:45.50 | AsaPhelps | so they become infested |
| 22:45.59 | volte | or we could just give them aids |
| 22:46.07 | AsaPhelps | i'll infect the females |
| 22:46.11 | AsaPhelps | you can get the males |
| 22:46.19 | volte | good thing I'm female |
| 22:46.28 | AsaPhelps | then let me infect you first |
| 22:46.58 | AsaPhelps | but its stuff like this that causes more people to pirate |
| 22:47.03 | AsaPhelps | look at ubisoft's fail for ac2 |
| 22:47.07 | sugoi | RedWraith: are wall algo's for td's? |
| 22:47.13 | AsaPhelps | yes |
| 22:47.16 | slightlyrandom | RedWraith: Does that work with odd shapes of maps ? |
| 22:47.17 | AsaPhelps | its so you don't block waves |
| 22:47.32 | RodOfNOD | u know the real problem with letting people hack in sc and not doling jack diddly? all those fuckers will come to sc2 with the same idc attitude and hack here |
| 22:47.55 | AsaPhelps | i wonder if koreans ever take real life action against hackers |
| 22:47.55 | RodOfNOD | and that is 100% on blizzards shoulders |
| 22:48.06 | AsaPhelps | like if they found out idra was hacking would they burn his house down |
| 22:48.06 | RodOfNOD | im for capital punishment myself |
| 22:48.27 | volte | I'm going to hold out hope that Blizzard is open to learning and will change its ways accordingly |
| 22:48.43 | sugoi | volte: won't happen man |
| 22:48.51 | AsaPhelps | well they changed real ids |
| 22:48.55 | sugoi | there is much more anti-wow ferver than sc will ever have |
| 22:48.56 | AsaPhelps | but the editor is unsupported |
| 22:49.14 | volte | AsaPhelps: yes but they still use it |
| 22:49.17 | sugoi | RodOfNOD: anti-hacker or something? |
| 22:49.28 | RodOfNOD | i am anti game hacking yes |
| 22:49.33 | RodOfNOD | cheating |
| 22:49.34 | RodOfNOD | is wrong |
| 22:49.38 | RodOfNOD | end of story |
| 22:49.44 | AsaPhelps | what if its fun |
| 22:49.52 | sugoi | meh, releasing a game with unreasonable use caes is wrong in my book :) |
| 22:49.54 | RodOfNOD | its not fun for the other side so |
| 22:49.56 | RodOfNOD | idc if its fun |
| 22:50.09 | RodOfNOD | sugoi with what? |
| 22:50.13 | sugoi | if i paid for the game, and all my friends did, i'd be happy to sim-bnet server for a lan (e.g.) |
| 22:50.31 | RodOfNOD | what is wrong? |
| 22:50.44 | sugoi | my example: forcing bnet use |
| 22:51.01 | sugoi | benefit: reduce piracy |
| 22:51.06 | sugoi | i'm all for less piracy |
| 22:51.12 | RodOfNOD | exactly |
| 22:51.16 | sugoi | but, when security removes features, that sucks |
| 22:51.27 | RodOfNOD | they will be back |
| 22:51.30 | RodOfNOD | features that is |
| 22:51.38 | RodOfNOD | but its smart |
| 22:51.42 | RodOfNOD | if u want to play melee |
| 22:51.45 | RodOfNOD | u cant hack it |
| 22:51.48 | RodOfNOD | u have to pay for it |
| 22:52.32 | Dashkal | mmm, aolbonics |
| 22:52.34 | RodOfNOD | of course if someone wanted to theyu would just make a server off shore and bliz couldnt do jack |
| 22:53.41 | volte | sugoi: I agree, but seriously, the game has only been out for a few days (right? or am I losing track of time) |
| 22:53.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rockj (rockj@rockj.net) |
| 22:54.05 | Rockj | I got a quick question, trying to search on sc2mapster on how to set player start location. |
| 22:54.23 | AsaPhelps | its under |
| 22:54.25 | volte | Rockj: you gotta put a point down |
| 22:54.31 | AsaPhelps | points yeah |
| 22:54.32 | volte | start location |
| 22:54.41 | AsaPhelps | what she said |
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| 22:54.50 | AsaPhelps | game has been out a week |
| 22:55.03 | Rockj | yeah, noticed about the point, just trying to figure out how |
| 22:55.10 | AsaPhelps | and the most popular maps are from the beta so far |
| 22:55.34 | Rockj | I'm not really a mapper, just trying to add 4 more spawnpoints on a 4vs4 map so we can play 6vs6 :D |
| 22:55.48 | AsaPhelps | did you add more players? |
| 22:56.04 | ekcolnovkol | hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiYAH |
| 22:56.05 | Lyrrad | not even a week yet |
| 22:56.11 | ekcolnovkol | kicks himself in the neck |
| 22:56.17 | AsaPhelps | 6 days |
| 22:56.20 | AsaPhelps | my apologies sir lyrrad |
| 22:56.31 | Lyrrad | I should think so |
| 22:56.42 | Lyrrad | Don't let it happen again |
| 22:56.54 | AsaPhelps | so to make a polymorph sheep |
| 22:57.01 | Rockj | AsaPhelps: I've been into Player properties and added the players. |
| 22:57.10 | AsaPhelps | can you force a model swap in behaviors or effects? |
| 22:57.13 | Lyrrad | Well first you find your warcraft 3 discs... |
| 22:57.23 | AsaPhelps | there's a sheep in sc2 |
| 22:57.30 | wOlfLinG | um... maybe |
| 22:57.38 | wOlfLinG | Theres a cow |
| 22:57.39 | AsaPhelps | actually it looks more like a ram |
| 22:57.42 | wOlfLinG | So why not a sheep? |
| 22:57.47 | Lyrrad | There are critters that might look sheepish |
| 22:57.56 | AsaPhelps | there's a actual sheep |
| 22:58.00 | Rockj | AsaPhelps: so now trying to figure out how to add those points for the start locations for the new players :-) |
| 22:58.01 | AsaPhelps | his name is sheep |
| 22:58.17 | AsaPhelps | go to layer, points |
| 22:58.21 | AsaPhelps | then click the second one |
| 22:58.23 | Lyrrad | I miss the old Mutton map |
| 22:58.25 | AsaPhelps | should be start location |
| 22:58.38 | Rockj | AsaPhelps: haha, I saw it now, the second icon was start location :O |
| 22:58.48 | Rockj | hehe, I was right clicking and looking for like "new point" etc. |
| 22:59.32 | AsaPhelps | so I know in actor events you can swap models |
| 22:59.47 | RodOfNOD | is there a way to find actions that are not completed ie there is an error ? |
| 23:00.01 | AsaPhelps | but it seems a bit much to add behavior.polymorph.on for each unit |
| 23:00.18 | volte | when I duplicate an actor, why can't I set the id? (Right click, modify object) |
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| 23:02.38 | AsaPhelps | I can when I modify |
| 23:02.42 | Rockj | AsaPhelps: seem I got it working now, fixed teams in Team Placement now - guess im ready to go |
| 23:03.02 | AsaPhelps | good luck and god's speed |
| 23:03.12 | volte | AsaPhelps: will you do me a favor and try duplicating the Marine actor? |
| 23:03.17 | AsaPhelps | how did you duplicate it |
| 23:03.19 | AsaPhelps | in units or actor? |
| 23:03.22 | volte | actor |
| 23:03.45 | AsaPhelps | I can modify it fine |
| 23:03.47 | volte | (first did unit, but didn't like what was happening, so did it semi-manually by duplicating the actor) |
| 23:03.50 | volte | wtFFFFFF |
| 23:03.51 | volte | zor |
| 23:04.07 | AsaPhelps | I right clicked |
| 23:04.10 | AsaPhelps | Duplicate |
| 23:04.18 | AsaPhelps | didnt check anything but I also did and both worked |
| 23:04.23 | volte | right |
| 23:04.32 | volte | ugh |
| 23:04.38 | volte | my id is greyed out and set to Marine2 |
| 23:04.47 | Rockj | AsaPhelps: another quick question, do you need to publish map when you only want it accessible for your friends? |
| 23:05.07 | Dashkal | oh my. I just found out how to open campaign maps. *does a little dance* |
| 23:06.01 | volte | lol Marine actor's parent is Marine O.o |
| 23:06.40 | volte | AsaPhelps: figured out a way around it :) |
| 23:07.07 | depthsofchaos | does someone know how to export model textures as dds in the eidtor? |
| 23:07.11 | depthsofchaos | seems to be buged for me |
| 23:07.25 | RodOfNOD | shouldnt be |
| 23:07.26 | RodOfNOD | works for me |
| 23:07.30 | RodOfNOD | i just use winmpq |
| 23:07.48 | AsaPhelps | all multiplayer maps need to be published on battle.net |
| 23:08.01 | AsaPhelps | period |
| 23:08.08 | AsaPhelps | exclamation mark |
| 23:08.12 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:08.18 | depthsofchaos | what should i extract with winmpq? |
| 23:08.26 | RodOfNOD | what if u want a map based on playboy how u gonna publish that eh? |
| 23:08.38 | RodOfNOD | well are these models u have imported or just dds from sc2? |
| 23:08.53 | depthsofchaos | dds from sc2 |
| 23:09.03 | RodOfNOD | create a folder on ur desktop |
| 23:09.08 | RodOfNOD | and go to the MODS folder |
| 23:09.11 | AsaPhelps | does this look like burning tar or something to anyone else? http://i25.tinypic.com/dr6v7o.jpg |
| 23:09.18 | RodOfNOD | and u will have to change winmpq to look for ALL file types |
| 23:09.22 | RodOfNOD | then dump everything u can |
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| 23:09.31 | Rockj | is it just me or doesnt blizzard allow me to use the same name on the map added with like 6vs6 after it? :O |
| 23:09.36 | Rockj | when trying to publish to private? |
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| 23:09.44 | Seyon | so the terran campaign is amazing... is anyone making custom campaigns? |
| 23:09.44 | RodOfNOD | looks great AsaPhelps |
| 23:09.54 | Jum-Jum | yes Seyon |
| 23:09.56 | depthsofchaos | ok thx |
| 23:09.56 | RodOfNOD | amazing? |
| 23:10.00 | depthsofchaos | well thats a few gigabytes |
| 23:10.02 | Seyon | the story |
| 23:10.04 | Seyon | is good... |
| 23:10.06 | Jum-Jum | but its still planning stages, its a lot of work... a looot of work :( |
| 23:10.10 | RodOfNOD | ive played one of the maps |
| 23:10.14 | RodOfNOD | so far its kinda lame |
| 23:10.14 | AsaPhelps | does anyone know how to tint textures? |
| 23:10.16 | Jum-Jum | if you want it to be atleast decent |
| 23:10.18 | RodOfNOD | maybe it will get better |
| 23:10.26 | Seyon | it gets good fast |
| 23:10.27 | RodOfNOD | do u mean in the game or using photoshop? |
| 23:10.38 | RodOfNOD | AsaPhelps?> |
| 23:10.42 | AsaPhelps | in game |
| 23:10.43 | Seyon | all the tech upgrades and special perks are unlocked at mission 4 |
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| 23:11.31 | AsaPhelps | looking at the editor there were quite a bit of campaign units I never saw, not sure if that sbecause I missed those missions |
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| 23:12.31 | Jum-Jum | Hm without spoiling... AsaPhelps... the second last mission... did you do "A" or "G"? |
| 23:12.32 | depthsofchaos | everything is titled "unknown" by win mpq |
| 23:12.42 | AsaPhelps | a |
| 23:12.52 | Jum-Jum | okey so you didnt spoil that one... unit |
| 23:12.56 | Jum-Jum | you know that one really cool |
| 23:12.56 | Jum-Jum | :D |
| 23:13.00 | RodOfNOD | ah thats cuz u dont have the proper list file depthsofchaos |
| 23:13.06 | RodOfNOD | not sure where i got mine |
| 23:13.07 | Jum-Jum | not spoil but uh... you didn't miss out on it! |
| 23:13.13 | AsaPhelps | you mean the thing with the things that shoot things? |
| 23:13.55 | AsaPhelps | but I mean, this probably doesn't spoil |
| 23:13.56 | Jum-Jum | ye! |
| 23:14.01 | AsaPhelps | there's a medic hero whom I never saw |
| 23:14.03 | volte | wow SC1 looks so lame lol |
| 23:14.24 | Jum-Jum | yeah a bunch of 'heroes' that were on the ship |
| 23:14.27 | `MindWorX | SC1 rocks |
| 23:14.29 | depthsofchaos | ok downloaded the new verison it works now |
| 23:14.29 | Jum-Jum | that was just never used in the game |
| 23:14.34 | AsaPhelps | but he has actual abilities |
| 23:14.40 | AsaPhelps | heal |
| 23:14.47 | AsaPhelps | and then he regens extra fast when not healing |
| 23:15.00 | volte | AsaPhelps: you mean Egon Stetmann? |
| 23:15.03 | AsaPhelps | yes |
| 23:15.10 | AsaPhelps | was he in any of the maps? |
| 23:15.39 | Jum-Jum | hes the lab guy in the campaign |
| 23:16.29 | AsaPhelps | but was he in any of the maps? |
| 23:16.32 | AsaPhelps | as a unit |
| 23:16.57 | volte | wow I'm really starting to get the hang of the editor |
| 23:17.02 | volte | but it's still very tedious |
| 23:17.18 | volte | AsaPhelps: I don't think so :) |
| 23:17.23 | volte | but could be cool in a custom map |
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| 23:17.32 | volte | kinda reminds me of Dr. Oct |
| 23:18.01 | AsaPhelps | attach 4 tentacles to him |
| 23:18.03 | AsaPhelps | make him a hero |
| 23:18.06 | AsaPhelps | OR villian |
| 23:18.53 | depthsofchaos | does someone know hwat dds settings does blizzard use? |
| 23:19.11 | RodOfNOD | what do u mean depth u mean for photoshop? |
| 23:19.18 | depthsofchaos | ye |
| 23:19.20 | RodOfNOD | give me a sec |
| 23:19.41 | depthsofchaos | cause for some reason my texture is black when the shader settings are on ultra |
| 23:19.54 | depthsofchaos | i set it to high and works fine |
| 23:19.56 | AsaPhelps | i don't remember seeing a shackled ultralisk either |
| 23:20.00 | AsaPhelps | was that in a map? |
| 23:20.10 | RodOfNOD | k well when u load pick load using default sizes depthsofchaos |
| 23:20.37 | depthsofchaos | i do that but this is a custom texture i made |
| 23:20.41 | RodOfNOD | DKT5 and 2d texture iswhat i ahve |
| 23:20.50 | depthsofchaos | gona try |
| 23:20.52 | AsaPhelps | can you have more than 8 textures? |
| 23:21.06 | depthsofchaos | DXT5? |
| 23:21.17 | volte | I use DXT5 as well |
| 23:21.33 | depthsofchaos | and mipmaps? |
| 23:21.33 | AsaPhelps | dxt5 |
| 23:21.44 | AsaPhelps | do you use gimp? |
| 23:21.51 | depthsofchaos | i use ps |
| 23:22.00 | RodOfNOD | all? |
| 23:22.04 | RodOfNOD | for mimaps |
| 23:22.07 | RodOfNOD | i didnt change anything else |
| 23:22.16 | Rockj | Guys, when I've opend a official blizzard map, and modified it, it says that "The published name 'Sand Canyon" is already in use. But i've changed the name on it to RockjSC. |
| 23:22.35 | Rockj | Is there any hidden place/locale name in another language that might be screwing it up for me? |
| 23:22.44 | got_Ammo | probably |
| 23:22.51 | Rockj | I'm blind |
| 23:23.01 | Rockj | Button right for "Change name", says "Use for All Locales" |
| 23:23.06 | Rockj | ;-( |
| 23:23.12 | got_Ammo | look in the import viewer, you'll see the locale data in there |
| 23:25.07 | Rockj | Yai, then I've made 6vs6 Sand Canyon, time to test it out with my friends. |
| 23:25.46 | Fromethius | anyone online good with actors |
| 23:28.34 | ubdead | dont you just love it when after 3 hours of fucking around the answer just sudden slap you in the face like YOUR STUPID MAN |
| 23:29.39 | ekcolnovkol | not particularly |
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| 23:31.06 | HP-X|Arthas | RodOfNOD |
| 23:31.20 | HP-X|Arthas | I dont know if ive sent you this / if youve seen this but its win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6mZvsWHs4M&playnext=1&videos=rdZdwEbVA-c |
| 23:33.41 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:33.54 | ubdead | pretty ok-ish :P |
| 23:34.12 | HP-X|Arthas | even funnier when drunk! |
| 23:34.18 | HP-X|Arthas | unless you are like my room mate |
| 23:34.24 | depthsofchaos | ok im going crazy cant get my custom skybox to work on high shader settings |
| 23:34.34 | ubdead | lol i stepped into dog shit once and thought it was funny |
| 23:34.39 | ubdead | my point is |
| 23:34.48 | ubdead | when your drunk everything is funny as shit |
| 23:34.49 | HP-X|Arthas | Favorite thing during partying w him is to tell him how much dickinson sucks (I know it aint true) but he seriously gets violent :D |
| 23:34.56 | HP-X|Arthas | it is not :p |
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| 23:35.07 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:35.29 | ubdead | god i miss drinking lol |
| 23:35.37 | ubdead | havent had a beer in about 5 months now |
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| 23:35.55 | volte | so... is there a way to add more "armor attributes"? |
| 23:35.58 | HP-X|Arthas | protip, take it easy next time |
| 23:36.03 | volte | like, Armored, Biological, Heroic, Hover |
| 23:36.25 | ubdead | volte don't think so? |
| 23:36.29 | HP-X|Arthas | ive taken a drink twice this year, now last time the weekend.... 7 beers and i was gone :p |
| 23:36.29 | volte | hmph |
| 23:36.37 | HP-X|Arthas | my tolerance level has dropped dead |
| 23:36.38 | volte | they pick the weirdest things to make modifiable or not |
| 23:36.50 | ubdead | HP-X|Arthas yea i know right |
| 23:37.17 | ubdead | evolution of dance was related video |
| 23:37.21 | ubdead | im so listening to that |
| 23:37.30 | HP-X|Arthas | lol |
| 23:37.31 | ubdead | it's like a mix-tape of my history lol |
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| 23:38.12 | ubdead | well first few are a bit tooo old i guess |
| 23:38.18 | HP-X|Arthas | evolution of dance is really good if i remember it correctly |
| 23:38.37 | Rockj | Is it possible to make a "Game mode", so I can use something else then MOde: Other? I want Mode: 6vs6 |
| 23:38.57 | AsaPhelps | volte, those are hardcoded I believe |
| 23:38.59 | slightlyrandom | Yes Rockj |
| 23:39.11 | slightlyrandom | Go find the lobby tutorial on sc2mapster.com |
| 23:40.07 | ubdead | it's on the front page accidentaly |
| 23:42.52 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.theonion.com/video/sony-releases-new-stupid-piece-of-shit-that-doesnt,14309/ |
| 23:42.56 | HP-X|Arthas | olde indeed |
| 23:43.00 | HP-X|Arthas | now back to game! |
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| 23:43.59 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/skullgrate.jpg |
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| 23:44.11 | ubdead | rofl at at that video HP-X|Arthas |
| 23:44.27 | HP-X|Arthas | its made of win :D |
| 23:44.33 | HP-X|Arthas | I laugh every time I watch it |
| 23:45.40 | HP-X|Arthas | "We want people to be screaming in unison in houses across the country: Work, work you cock sucking piece of shit! What is wrong with you, why can't you work like a normal machine?" |
| 23:45.48 | HP-X|Arthas | Yup, probably the best quote ever. |
| 23:46.16 | ubdead | i liked the first newsreader lol |
| 23:46.32 | HP-X|Arthas | :D |
| 23:46.50 | Rockj | slightlyrandom: this one? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ |
| 23:46.51 | HP-X|Arthas | ah well, time to play a few more games. later guys |
| 23:47.03 | slightlyrandom | Yeah Ro |
| 23:47.06 | slightlyrandom | Rockj: |
| 23:47.33 | ubdead | if you have any suggestions on the tutorial, you should talk to me i guess |
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| 23:53.57 | got_Ammo | is it possible for behavior to mark a unit with a different attribute (eg as a structure)? |
| 23:54.58 | ubdead | well you can define any unit with any attribute |
| 23:55.03 | ubdead | as long as it's existing already |
| 23:55.13 | Rockj | slightlyrandom: ok, I got to set up the teams etc thru Game variants, but under Game type tab , I need to add the Mode: 6v6 |
| 23:55.17 | got_Ammo | yes but what I'd like to do is to have a buff that marks a unit as something like a structure |
| 23:55.24 | ubdead | so you can have a marine have 'mechnical' but not 'animal' |
| 23:55.27 | got_Ammo | the way my map is set up it looks at those attributes and does different things |
| 23:55.37 | ubdead | ah i see |
| 23:55.47 | ubdead | you can give it a Behavior - Buff |
| 23:55.54 | ubdead | and then modify the attributes with that |
| 23:56.13 | got_Ammo | do you know where in the buff I could do that? |
| 23:56.15 | got_Ammo | that's what I'm not sure of |
| 23:57.40 | ubdead | yes let me look it up for you |
| 23:57.42 | ubdead | one moment |
| 23:57.43 | slightlyrandom | Rockj: Then do that? |
| 23:57.54 | slightlyrandom | Add a new game mode, right click, set as default, call it 6vs |
| 23:57.55 | slightlyrandom | 6 |
| 23:58.03 | r9k | #SC2MapsterMapNight starting in 3 minutes, first map is Rocket Arena |
| 23:59.28 | ubdead | mnnn i might have spoken too soon got_Ammo |
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| 23:59.36 | Rockj | slightlyrandom: so it doesn't matter it says Mode: 4v4 under Game Type tab under Game Variants aslong as I've added a new "Game Variant" named Melee 6vs6 which is default and went thru Attributes tab setting up the teams? |
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| 23:59.47 | RodOfNOD | has anybody played with making a new race in the data editor? |
| 23:59.56 | Technomancer | ooooh no but i'd love to learn how |
