| 00:00.03 | goomba_ | yeah xD |
| 00:00.18 | goomba_ | maybe its to reflect its specified dmg |
| 00:00.22 | goomba_ | 20/40armored |
| 00:00.41 | goomba_ | less marine on a stick more poke a hole in a tank? |
| 00:01.11 | AsaPhelps | lurkers were great in sc |
| 00:02.08 | goomba_ | i konw |
| 00:02.08 | goomba_ | know |
| 00:02.09 | goomba_ | zerg needs it |
| 00:02.11 | m50 | there were lurkers in All In |
| 00:02.21 | goomba_ | oh well |
| 00:02.25 | goomba_ | did yall kill the air thing? |
| 00:02.28 | goomba_ | i went into the tunnelz |
| 00:02.32 | m50 | i killed air |
| 00:02.36 | AsaPhelps | i killed air |
| 00:02.37 | m50 | made the last mission SO much easier |
| 00:02.39 | goomba_ | so i guess if i killed ze tunnelz there wouldnt be lurkers in ze tunnelz |
| 00:02.52 | goomba_ | nah the last mission was easy for me lol |
| 00:02.54 | AsaPhelps | i didn't get lurkers in mine |
| 00:03.03 | goomba_ | all that came at me was mutas and brood lords |
| 00:03.06 | goomba_ | + 1 leviathan |
| 00:03.12 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/ by OneTwoSC |
| 00:03.15 | goomba_ | and i had 200/200 of goliaths and vikings |
| 00:03.30 | AsaPhelps | what upgrades did you get |
| 00:03.32 | m50 | kerigan kept killing ALL my units |
| 00:03.33 | m50 | >.> |
| 00:03.35 | Fromethius | can someone help me with this validator problem? i am trying to create a validator that determines whether or not the target structure is a nydus canal. if it is, the effect should not run. however, it is not working. i am using the Not Lair validator as a basis and have exactly the same fields except i changed the unit to a nydus canal but the effect is still running even when the building is the target.. |
| 00:03.35 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5525-video-zergling-attack-ai-tutorial/ |
| 00:03.37 | onetwo | new tutorial |
| 00:03.37 | AsaPhelps | auto-gathering gas is the best thing evr |
| 00:03.41 | m50 | then like 300 broodlords came in and killed me |
| 00:03.47 | goomba_ | autogather gas is awesome |
| 00:03.59 | goomba_ | allows for so much more minerals :P |
| 00:04.01 | AsaPhelps | from you could give nydus cancals a behavior and then validate if that unit has the behavior |
| 00:04.05 | goomba_ | i had fully teched by the end of the map |
| 00:04.10 | goomba_ | 3/3 infantry air and vehicles |
| 00:04.11 | Fromethius | good idea phelps |
| 00:04.16 | AsaPhelps | i had like 4000 minerals and 50 gas |
| 00:04.17 | goomba_ | @onetwo, hi |
| 00:04.18 | AsaPhelps | so i was like |
| 00:04.20 | AsaPhelps | FLAME TURRETS |
| 00:04.37 | onetwo | hi |
| 00:04.44 | AsaPhelps | hi onetwo |
| 00:04.46 | goomba_ | because of you |
| 00:04.57 | goomba_ | one of the few guys that pmed me about the campaign |
| 00:05.01 | goomba_ | sent me ultralisk porn xD |
| 00:05.06 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:05.29 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:05.44 | goomba_ | but ive now got 4 people including myself |
| 00:05.48 | m50 | wtf? I am reimporting my model, and it imports just fine, but when i save, the model turns into a white ball... |
| 00:06.01 | goomba_ | reload the editor m50 |
| 00:06.24 | goomba_ | pain in the ass, but it usually fixes it |
| 00:06.36 | m50 | mmk |
| 00:06.38 | m50 | gonna try it |
| 00:06.49 | m50 | i just wish i could figure out how to make it turn it's turret |
| 00:07.01 | m50 | yay fixed |
| 00:07.02 | m50 | thanks :D |
| 00:07.06 | AsaPhelps | do immortals use turrets |
| 00:07.10 | goomba_ | np lol had same problem myself |
| 00:07.10 | goomba_ | no |
| 00:07.15 | goomba_ | immortals just have like 19 animations |
| 00:07.25 | goomba_ | same with colossus |
| 00:08.16 | RodOfNOD | has NIN gotten visual effects and emitters to import yet? |
| 00:08.23 | goomba_ | what kind of emitters would you want |
| 00:08.24 | m50 | hey goomba, any idea why my tank is coming in bright green instead of the dull green that i made it's texture, and bright grey instead of the dark gray that i made its texture? |
| 00:08.47 | goomba_ | ehh |
| 00:08.59 | goomba_ | not really unless you added something other than a diffuse map |
| 00:09.15 | m50 | nope, just a diffure map |
| 00:09.17 | goomba_ | @rod theres a decent headlight emitter by default |
| 00:09.25 | m50 | its a flat green and flat grey diffuse maps |
| 00:10.02 | goomba_ | idk, hit the view thing |
| 00:10.02 | goomba_ | 1 sec |
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| 00:10.37 | RodOfNOD | i want to take the splash water effects from wc3 that allow a boat to look like its sailing |
| 00:10.58 | goomba_ | view -> show shader mode -> diffuse only |
| 00:11.10 | goomba_ | or full bright diffuse |
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| 00:11.37 | m50 | in max or SC2? |
| 00:11.42 | goomba_ | editor |
| 00:11.42 | m50 | sc2 editor* |
| 00:12.43 | m50 | so i did that, and it didn't change the brightness of it... it is still really bright |
| 00:12.51 | goomba_ | oh well |
| 00:12.57 | goomba_ | then it didnt import properly |
| 00:13.03 | goomba_ | or something |
| 00:13.14 | goomba_ | out of curiosity how big is your texture resolution |
| 00:13.41 | goomba_ | textures* |
| 00:13.41 | m50 | 32x32 |
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| 00:13.47 | m50 | since they are only one color |
| 00:13.57 | m50 | just trying to get a model working in SC2 xD |
| 00:14.19 | RodOfNOD | i just somehow made a broodling from a broodlord that had no life duration bar |
| 00:15.07 | RodOfNOD | im talking in a game just playing with units |
| 00:15.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster Corbo (~thecorbo@190.87.73.174) |
| 00:15.13 | Corbo | hai |
| 00:15.16 | goomba_ | sup |
| 00:15.29 | RodOfNOD | hi corbo |
| 00:15.35 | Corbo | hey |
| 00:15.39 | m50 | hello |
| 00:15.41 | RodOfNOD | did NiN make it so we can import effects and emitters yet? |
| 00:15.48 | Corbo | Does anyone know how do you add new attachment points? |
| 00:15.50 | Corbo | not yet. |
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| 00:15.58 | RodOfNOD | in the game or in an editor? |
| 00:16.02 | Corbo | err |
| 00:16.03 | RodOfNOD | grr 3ds |
| 00:16.04 | Corbo | to a model |
| 00:16.10 | goomba_ | im pretty sure you have to designate bones or something to that effect |
| 00:16.13 | m50 | go to helper |
| 00:16.15 | RodOfNOD | but in the game/editor or in max |
| 00:16.19 | m50 | and switch down to SC2 objects |
| 00:16.27 | m50 | should be an attachment point object |
| 00:16.32 | Corbo | oh |
| 00:16.33 | Corbo | that's right |
| 00:16.39 | Corbo | thanks |
| 00:16.44 | Corbo | what about the naming, though? |
| 00:16.45 | m50 | np |
| 00:16.54 | goomba_ | corbo doesnt come in here to chat, just to use us |
| 00:16.57 | goomba_ | for personal gain |
| 00:16.59 | goomba_ | asshole :( |
| 00:16.59 | Corbo | YES |
| 00:17.00 | m50 | no need to name, it has a drop down with different types of attachements |
| 00:17.04 | AsaPhelps | what type of actor/model do you use to create it at a point and not be attached to the actor? |
| 00:18.25 | onetwo | time to work on my rpg again |
| 00:18.27 | onetwo | :D |
| 00:18.36 | goomba_ | how far along are you onetwo? |
| 00:18.41 | onetwo | >< |
| 00:18.48 | onetwo | finishing hero abilities |
| 00:18.51 | onetwo | its super time consuming |
| 00:18.53 | onetwo | but when thats done |
| 00:18.56 | onetwo | ill be able to make huge progress |
| 00:19.06 | AsaPhelps | do you need any help |
| 00:19.08 | onetwo | the rpg right now has probably enough cointent for 1-2 hours |
| 00:19.10 | onetwo | of gameplay |
| 00:19.15 | AsaPhelps | thats pretty good |
| 00:19.23 | AsaPhelps | multiplayer? |
| 00:19.26 | onetwo | yes |
| 00:19.32 | onetwo | i can send you it and you can try it out |
| 00:19.34 | onetwo | and give feedback |
| 00:19.37 | AsaPhelps | sure |
| 00:19.37 | goomba_ | when its done |
| 00:19.54 | goomba_ | you should use all that leet knowlege to work on my epic campaign :D |
| 00:19.56 | AsaPhelps | i made a chronosphere ability, because I am so creative |
| 00:20.06 | AsaPhelps | makes a bubble and stops units inside |
| 00:20.21 | onetwo | wow cool |
| 00:21.18 | m50 | thats awesome Asa |
| 00:21.25 | goomba_ | corbo you still here? |
| 00:21.50 | AsaPhelps | well i mostly done it |
| 00:21.55 | AsaPhelps | its actually very easy to make |
| 00:22.23 | goomba_ | with triggers id imagine it would be |
| 00:22.50 | goomba_ | still a cool concept though :P |
| 00:23.01 | m50 | finally they are darker! but not right saturation value :/ |
| 00:23.32 | goomba_ | you should just be glad your damn textures imported |
| 00:23.38 | goomba_ | mine always get fucked in the works somehow |
| 00:23.51 | m50 | i used Starcraft 2 Bitmaps in the material, and set their brightness to 0.5 but that doesn't make it the right color in any way for some reason >.> |
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| 00:25.26 | m50 | shading is also fairly borked... guess he hasn't fixed shading groups yet, huh? |
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| 00:26.45 | Corbo | k back |
| 00:27.01 | Vailreth | hello every one |
| 00:27.05 | Corbo | hai |
| 00:27.06 | goomba_ | hi corbo+vailreth |
| 00:28.26 | Corbo | m50 |
| 00:28.29 | m50 | ? |
| 00:28.30 | Corbo | you need normal maps |
| 00:28.34 | Corbo | if you don't have them |
| 00:28.35 | Corbo | >.> |
| 00:28.38 | m50 | ahh... mmk |
| 00:28.45 | Corbo | To fix the shading errors or whatever |
| 00:28.57 | m50 | i don't, and i really don't care about the shading since i am just trying to get a unit in the editor |
| 00:29.01 | m50 | and it works yay :) |
| 00:29.06 | Corbo | :P |
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| 00:29.38 | m50 | doesn't even have real textures, let alone layed out UV's xD |
| 00:29.40 | Corbo | k so I'm still missing like 15 more missions |
| 00:29.43 | m50 | it is just a tank model |
| 00:30.04 | onetwo | weird |
| 00:30.07 | onetwo | why cant i have everyone on the same team |
| 00:30.10 | onetwo | in my game variant |
| 00:30.20 | Corbo | cause sc2 hates you |
| 00:30.55 | Vailreth | becuase you need er ...some one to fight with ? |
| 00:31.21 | LordAbyss | so i beat teh campaign and got my zeratul portrait |
| 00:31.23 | LordAbyss | :) |
| 00:31.32 | Corbo | psh |
| 00:31.35 | m50 | onetwo, make a computer enemy |
| 00:31.41 | Corbo | kate's portrait > all |
| 00:31.45 | onetwo | :/ |
| 00:31.45 | rrowland | You don't get the zeratul portrait from beating the game |
| 00:31.47 | LordAbyss | i got it yesterday |
| 00:31.51 | LordAbyss | i know rrow |
| 00:31.57 | goomba_ | you get raynor :PP |
| 00:31.58 | LordAbyss | but i still went back and got it |
| 00:31.59 | m50 | or, set them up so they are on different teams, and then set their teams at the beginning |
| 00:32.02 | rrowland | I'm using the zeratul portrait too :P |
| 00:32.09 | LordAbyss | hardest part was keeping his health from not getting damaged |
| 00:32.11 | LordAbyss | haha |
| 00:32.15 | LordAbyss | i saved like 5 times that map |
| 00:32.24 | Corbo | it's easy |
| 00:32.29 | Corbo | let the stalkers do everything |
| 00:32.37 | Vailreth | i am needing to replay the first zeratul mission ... |
| 00:32.40 | LordAbyss | i was trying to do stalker achieve and health at the same time |
| 00:32.52 | Corbo | ah |
| 00:33.00 | LordAbyss | i ended up not getting the health right at the end |
| 00:33.01 | Corbo | the stalker one seems pretty hard. |
| 00:33.04 | m50 | it is possible to do cloth on custom models yet? |
| 00:33.06 | LordAbyss | but i saved like 10 seconds before the end of it |
| 00:33.09 | AsaPhelps | whats the secret mission like |
| 00:33.13 | LordAbyss | so i just loaded it and sacrificed |
| 00:33.20 | Corbo | cloth? |
| 00:33.21 | RedWraith | hey guys |
| 00:33.23 | Corbo | I don't think so. |
| 00:33.27 | onetwo | interesting |
| 00:33.31 | allenmelon | botv2 or yabot? |
| 00:33.33 | Corbo | unless it's part of the mesh and treated like the same mesh |
| 00:33.33 | m50 | mmk... dang |
| 00:33.34 | onetwo | in infection i made all 12 players be on Team 1[1] |
| 00:33.38 | onetwo | and it didnt bug out |
| 00:33.40 | onetwo | nice |
| 00:33.58 | m50 | well, look at zeratul in the campaign, look at his cloack |
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| 00:34.04 | m50 | something like that is what i want |
| 00:34.11 | WildFire | hi all |
| 00:34.13 | Corbo | oh |
| 00:34.26 | Corbo | there's a model just for the cloack |
| 00:34.51 | m50 | ahh |
| 00:34.53 | goomba_ | 1 c in cloak :P |
| 00:34.58 | m50 | err... wow... cloak*** |
| 00:35.05 | m50 | i always mispell that xD |
| 00:35.11 | Corbo | either way you can get around that |
| 00:35.17 | Vailreth | i regret not goingt for micro filtering |
| 00:35.20 | Corbo | just animate the clothing yourself |
| 00:35.28 | RedWraith | What problems do you have with the popularity system? Before responding, read this: http://pastebin.com/Hqr3FMZY |
| 00:35.31 | goomba_ | corbo you should join the team |
| 00:35.33 | RedWraith | also, I'd like suggestions for filters |
| 00:35.35 | goomba_ | to work on my campaign |
| 00:35.39 | goomba_ | that im startin |
| 00:35.40 | goomba_ | g |
| 00:35.45 | goomba_ | ^_^ |
| 00:35.47 | RedWraith | send response to me via query or say my name |
| 00:35.50 | RedWraith | in your response |
| 00:35.51 | RedWraith | so I notice |
| 00:35.52 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 00:36.05 | RedWraith | I'm making a 'big post' about it in the official forums. |
| 00:38.26 | WildFire | so hey does anyone in here know how to set up a timer? |
| 00:39.09 | allenmelon | botv2 or yabot? |
| 00:39.26 | WildFire | ? |
| 00:39.52 | Lisk | what exactly is a unit type? is it an integer, or a string, for example? |
| 00:39.55 | allenmelon | which is better, botv2 or yabot? |
| 00:41.13 | AsaPhelps | ~seen prozaicmule |
| 00:41.15 | purl | i haven't seen 'prozaicmule', AsaPhelps |
| 00:41.28 | allenmelon | lol |
| 00:41.30 | allenmelon | mule |
| 00:41.38 | AsaPhelps | whats his name i forgot |
| 00:41.41 | AsaPhelps | muze |
| 00:41.41 | allenmelon | muze |
| 00:41.46 | AsaPhelps | ~seen prozaicmuze |
| 00:41.47 | purl | prozaicmuze <~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 18m ago, saying: 'rrowland was likely on crack for whatever bug he encountered'. |
| 00:41.48 | AsaPhelps | i was close |
| 00:41.51 | onetwo | hahahaha |
| 00:41.55 | onetwo | so true |
| 00:41.57 | allenmelon | still, z and l are far apart |
| 00:42.05 | AsaPhelps | they're not that far apart |
| 00:42.09 | AsaPhelps | p is farther |
| 00:42.12 | allenmelon | -__- |
| 00:42.24 | AsaPhelps | ~seen azzenmezon |
| 00:42.24 | purl | i haven't seen 'azzenmezon', AsaPhelps |
| 00:42.29 | allenmelon | lol |
| 00:43.10 | m4ng3 | pie? |
| 00:43.14 | onetwo | i know ive mentioned this before... but it's brilliant how they made the data editor. Spells and regular weapons all use damage effects, so if you give your hero items that buff +ranged damage, itll affect the spell and his weapon |
| 00:43.16 | onetwo | like in real RPGs |
| 00:43.25 | onetwo | whereas in war3 you couldnt dynamically affect spell dmg |
| 00:44.05 | goomba_ | if your spells were triggers you could :P |
| 00:44.08 | ShadowTiger | does anybody know if the motherships obsolete ability that slows missles in an area is in the game? |
| 00:44.09 | onetwo | true |
| 00:44.40 | WildFire | no I dont think it is shadow |
| 00:44.46 | WildFire | but I'm sure you can find it and add it |
| 00:45.44 | Sixen | Isnt' it Chrono rigt? |
| 00:45.46 | Sixen | rift* |
| 00:47.40 | RedWraith | hey guys |
| 00:47.46 | RedWraith | what filters would you like |
| 00:47.48 | RedWraith | for maps? |
| 00:48.07 | RedWraith | tug, tower, team hero, ffa, fighting ais, rpgs |
| 00:48.11 | RedWraith | What else is there? |
| 00:48.27 | WildFire | what you mean filters? |
| 00:48.30 | WildFire | theres rps |
| 00:48.33 | WildFire | rp's |
| 00:48.36 | m4ng3 | tower wars |
| 00:48.44 | WildFire | diplomacys |
| 00:49.06 | onetwo | survival |
| 00:49.12 | RedWraith | diplomacy is an ffa |
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| 00:49.18 | RedWraith | survival is fighting ais |
| 00:49.23 | onetwo | not my map |
| 00:49.26 | onetwo | infection is a survival map |
| 00:49.28 | onetwo | no heroes |
| 00:49.30 | onetwo | player vs player |
| 00:49.34 | RedWraith | that's ffa |
| 00:49.37 | onetwo | really? |
| 00:49.39 | RedWraith | hmm |
| 00:49.39 | onetwo | its teambased |
| 00:49.41 | RedWraith | maybe not |
| 00:49.46 | RedWraith | oh, forgot |
| 00:49.47 | RedWraith | team general |
| 00:49.48 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 00:50.03 | onetwo | make a category called lame |
| 00:50.05 | onetwo | and just put page 1 maps in there |
| 00:50.05 | RedWraith | lol |
| 00:50.06 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:50.58 | WildFire | so red do you know how to set up a timer? |
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| 00:52.01 | RedWraith | Yes. |
| 00:52.18 | RedWraith | Why do you need a timer? |
| 00:52.34 | WildFire | making a diplo map |
| 00:53.33 | RedWraith | It's better to just record the time |
| 00:53.36 | RedWraith | and use it later |
| 00:53.41 | RedWraith | If you want to display it though |
| 00:53.50 | WildFire | thats what I want :S |
| 00:53.54 | RedWraith | that's a bad choice |
| 00:53.59 | RedWraith | you should put it in a dialog or leaderboard |
| 00:53.59 | WildFire | ol |
| 00:54.05 | RedWraith | which means |
| 00:54.09 | RedWraith | save time -> use later |
| 00:54.18 | RedWraith | Timers are big and bulky. |
| 00:54.22 | RedWraith | They look ugly. |
| 00:54.31 | RedWraith | They're good for buffs in RPGs. |
| 00:54.32 | RedWraith | That's about it. |
| 00:54.53 | WildFire | :S |
| 00:55.51 | WildFire | how will it look if its in leaderboard? |
| 00:56.21 | WildFire | I dont think I have played a map with the time in it yet |
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| 01:01.42 | onetwo | ah my editor still crashes on my heroes |
| 01:01.48 | onetwo | because of like 150 effects |
| 01:01.51 | onetwo | in the object explorer |
| 01:01.52 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:02.06 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 01:02.15 | Vailreth | i cant even run sc3 now |
| 01:02.25 | Vailreth | sc2 |
| 01:02.27 | Vailreth | ahem |
| 01:02.34 | WildFire | what did you do lol? |
| 01:02.58 | Vailreth | nothing all of a sudden it started taking 10 minutes to load up and run |
| 01:03.10 | WildFire | eh not cool |
| 01:03.33 | Vailreth | i think it has something to do with my firewall |
| 01:05.07 | WildFire | it shouldnt be |
| 01:05.15 | WildFire | loading has to do with cpu |
| 01:05.25 | WildFire | and memory |
| 01:05.42 | Vailreth | when ever i run the editor i get six pop ups from my firewall asking permision to run the editor |
| 01:05.52 | WildFire | wow |
| 01:05.59 | WildFire | yeah well it updates from blizzard |
| 01:06.03 | WildFire | its gay like that |
| 01:06.04 | onetwo | omg |
| 01:06.09 | onetwo | i clicked on my hero again with object explorer by accident |
| 01:06.11 | Vailreth | so i have to click yes on all of them before the editor loads or it crashes the editor |
| 01:06.11 | onetwo | yay another crash |
| 01:06.11 | RedWraith | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248105532#new-post |
| 01:06.14 | RedWraith | enjoy |
| 01:06.14 | WildFire | blizzard is constantly commected to it |
| 01:06.32 | onetwo | haha another post |
| 01:06.58 | onetwo | Search can be a bad idea |
| 01:07.00 | onetwo | for joining games |
| 01:07.05 | onetwo | it might mean 5000 lobbies that dont fill |
| 01:07.09 | onetwo | since everyone is in their random fav map |
| 01:07.11 | Lisk | is it possible to make a unit (semi) transparent? |
| 01:08.31 | RedWraith | onetwo, that's why I want sorts |
| 01:08.38 | onetwo | ah |
| 01:08.39 | RedWraith | three kinds of sorts = lots of choices |
| 01:08.44 | onetwo | well i responded |
| 01:08.48 | RedWraith | 125 combinations, actually |
| 01:08.50 | WildFire | was first to comment :D |
| 01:08.53 | WildFire | I own :D |
| 01:09.15 | onetwo | honestly, switching to the old system with map names instead of lobby names, then just make each map expand to show last 10 lobbies |
| 01:09.17 | onetwo | would be ideal |
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| 01:09.19 | onetwo | prevents DOTA issue |
| 01:09.23 | onetwo | and its basically the old system |
| 01:09.35 | onetwo | but new sorting |
| 01:09.36 | onetwo | would be cool |
| 01:09.44 | onetwo | and popularity is good if its not the only system |
| 01:09.48 | onetwo | it should be 2ndary |
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| 01:10.03 | WildFire | popularity should be an option to see |
| 01:10.12 | WildFire | otherwise they shoudl of kept old system |
| 01:10.20 | onetwo | yep |
| 01:10.41 | Threepwood | hey guys, i got a question on something simple i'm probably just overlooking |
| 01:10.44 | WildFire | just keep the old one and add a button "whats popular today" and show each map and how many times it was hosted in the day |
| 01:10.55 | Threepwood | how do i remove player unit-order-giving control, making units ignore player orders? |
| 01:11.14 | WildFire | turn it to neutral? |
| 01:11.26 | Lisk | make unit uncommandable ? |
| 01:11.31 | Threepwood | no, i want the unit to remain under the players color and still be their unit, but not take commands |
| 01:11.44 | Threepwood | there's probably an ability or trigger i can apply like locust in wc3's editor isn't there? |
| 01:11.45 | WildFire | deleate the commands |
| 01:11.45 | WildFire | for that unit |
| 01:11.52 | WildFire | go in data editor |
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| 01:11.55 | WildFire | and deleate the buttons |
| 01:11.57 | Lisk | i came across something called "Make Unit Uncommandable" |
| 01:12.00 | Lisk | could try messing around with that |
| 01:12.09 | Unrea1|NA | Yo |
| 01:12.10 | Threepwood | i'll look around thanks. |
| 01:12.29 | Lisk | if anyone knows how to make a unit (semi)transparent, that'd be really helpful to me |
| 01:12.31 | Unrea1|NA | Some Motherfucker is fucking with my internet cause he got my IP through steam |
| 01:12.36 | Unrea1|NA | What should i do :| |
| 01:12.52 | WildFire | report it to your isp and ask for change of ip |
| 01:12.52 | WildFire | :P |
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| 01:14.28 | Unrea1|NA | Thats it |
| 01:14.34 | Unrea1|NA | Ask for an IP change |
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| 01:15.08 | ShadowTiger | does anyone know if you can make a search effect target missles? |
| 01:16.09 | onetwo | probably |
| 01:16.11 | onetwo | just change search filters |
| 01:16.17 | ShadowTiger | i did |
| 01:16.32 | ShadowTiger | it only seems to work on units, changing it to only hit missles makes it hit nothing |
| 01:16.56 | AsaPhelps | yes shadow |
| 01:17.04 | AsaPhelps | just filter it to require missiles |
| 01:17.11 | AsaPhelps | what missiles are you testing it on? |
| 01:17.19 | ShadowTiger | The lost viking |
| 01:17.31 | AsaPhelps | look at the point drone defense its weapon requires a missile |
| 01:17.38 | AsaPhelps | hmm thats not a search though |
| 01:17.52 | AsaPhelps | do you have the search require it or the effect |
| 01:17.59 | AsaPhelps | do you have the effect to affect missiles? |
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| 01:19.04 | ShadowTiger | i have a search effect that requires missles |
| 01:19.09 | ShadowTiger | ohhh |
| 01:19.11 | ShadowTiger | oops |
| 01:20.34 | ShadowTiger | hmm |
| 01:21.05 | ShadowTiger | i do a search, then i apply a damage effect that has no restrictions |
| 01:27.44 | AsaPhelps | sure is quiet in here |
| 01:29.15 | RedWraith | onetwo, I love how no one outside the IRC ever responds to positive threads |
| 01:29.16 | RedWraith | lol |
| 01:29.47 | AsaPhelps | onetwo is gone |
| 01:29.54 | AsaPhelps | he'll be missed |
| 01:30.28 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 01:30.47 | ShadowTiger | damn |
| 01:30.55 | ShadowTiger | i guess i will just make the whole game slow down : / |
| 01:31.06 | ShadowTiger | i just wanted to make a search effect that slows missles |
| 01:34.09 | AsaPhelps | thats easy |
| 01:34.15 | AsaPhelps | its already in the game |
| 01:34.28 | AsaPhelps | raynor has that ability in his commando? I think |
| 01:34.48 | AsaPhelps | well its kinda like that |
| 01:34.51 | ShadowTiger | oh cool |
| 01:34.58 | AsaPhelps | how do you slow them, modifying time scale? |
| 01:35.09 | ShadowTiger | i was gonna apply a behavior |
| 01:35.17 | ShadowTiger | im not sure how time scale works |
| 01:35.34 | AsaPhelps | i tried to make a behavior that changes a missile's movement speed but it didn't work |
| 01:35.37 | ShadowTiger | i know there is a "global timescale" but i dont know what "global" means in that context |
| 01:35.48 | AsaPhelps | well if a unit moves 100 units/s |
| 01:35.52 | AsaPhelps | and you set the time scale to .2 |
| 01:35.56 | AsaPhelps | it moves at 20 |
| 01:36.03 | ShadowTiger | thats what i figured |
| 01:36.18 | AsaPhelps | its good for missiles since they just move, units will have their attacks and animations slowed too |
| 01:36.24 | ShadowTiger | so if i can apply a behavior to the missle I can have an actor event that changes the timescale |
| 01:36.39 | AsaPhelps | you don't need an actor event |
| 01:36.45 | AsaPhelps | under behavior go to modifcation |
| 01:36.52 | AsaPhelps | then.... i want to say unit |
| 01:36.55 | AsaPhelps | and look for time scale |
| 01:37.09 | ShadowTiger | yeah but i still need an effect search area that applies the behavior |
| 01:37.23 | ShadowTiger | which is where i am stuck |
| 01:37.24 | AsaPhelps | well you can just make a search area called slow missiles |
| 01:37.35 | ShadowTiger | yeah except searches ignore missles |
| 01:37.44 | AsaPhelps | it shouldn't |
| 01:37.45 | ShadowTiger | regardless of the filter |
| 01:38.01 | ShadowTiger | it might be that these missles in The lost viking are special but i doubt it |
| 01:38.12 | ShadowTiger | created using "launch missle" events with an ammo unit |
| 01:38.15 | AsaPhelps | i'm compressing a video after i'll open my editor |
| 01:38.29 | ShadowTiger | what res do you cast at? |
| 01:38.36 | AsaPhelps | cast? |
| 01:38.44 | ShadowTiger | yeah upload vids |
| 01:38.49 | AsaPhelps | 720 |
| 01:38.58 | AsaPhelps | i can't get 1080 for some reason |
| 01:39.03 | AsaPhelps | i can only go as high as 1600x1050 |
| 01:39.07 | ShadowTiger | i tried uploading 1080 p stuff but you cant read the text |
| 01:39.19 | ShadowTiger | actually no matter what resolution i make you cant read it on youtube |
| 01:39.21 | AsaPhelps | even in full screen? |
| 01:39.24 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 01:39.33 | AsaPhelps | did you make sure you were viewing the hd quality? |
| 01:39.38 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 01:39.47 | ShadowTiger | i have sample vids you can see for yourself |
| 01:40.28 | ShadowTiger | http://www.youtube.com/user/StarcraftScientist#p/u/5/VW-DMbsp4cw |
| 01:41.20 | AsaPhelps | pretty sure i subscribed to you |
| 01:41.21 | RedWraith | You sound like onetwo's robot clone |
| 01:41.34 | RedWraith | I am onetwo. This is my tutorial. Beep beep boop boop |
| 01:42.13 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 01:42.20 | Sixen | Anyone know if I make a "New Campaign", will I be able to load my missions from the Mission Archive still? |
| 01:42.22 | ShadowTiger | i have alot on my mind when i voice those |
| 01:43.10 | AsaPhelps | No idea Sixen |
| 01:43.17 | AsaPhelps | what do you use to record tiger, fraps? |
| 01:43.23 | ShadowTiger | fraps |
| 01:43.27 | ShadowTiger | i just bought it |
| 01:43.28 | ShadowTiger | : D |
| 01:43.30 | AsaPhelps | do you record at full screen |
| 01:43.33 | AsaPhelps | also lol buying fraps |
| 01:43.35 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 01:43.46 | AsaPhelps | hmm not sure why your text is bad then |
| 01:43.49 | AsaPhelps | whats your video card? |
| 01:43.56 | ShadowTiger | nvidia 8800gt |
| 01:44.02 | ShadowTiger | x2 |
| 01:44.12 | ShadowTiger | my video is fine |
| 01:44.19 | ShadowTiger | its just that youtube butchers it with compression |
| 01:44.30 | AsaPhelps | my videos don't have much text |
| 01:44.35 | ShadowTiger | so i have to figure out what codec it wants me to use so it doesnt butcher it |
| 01:44.42 | ShadowTiger | other people seem to have no prob with editor footage |
| 01:44.59 | deathnight114 | hey shadowtiger, i got a question |
| 01:45.09 | ShadowTiger | i got a answer |
| 01:45.35 | deathnight114 | in the map editor, i'm trying to make a map where if i build a unit, i want that unit to die instantly, then five of them will be added to a wave |
| 01:46.08 | ShadowTiger | define "wave" |
| 01:46.49 | deathnight114 | every 20 seconds a group of 10 zealots spawn at one point, and try to attack another group, of 43 zerglings which spawned at another point |
| 01:47.05 | deathnight114 | I want it so when i build a zealot, five more zealots will be added to the zealot wave |
| 01:47.12 | slightlyrandomEU | deathnight114: Is there build time on the purchase ? |
| 01:47.14 | slightlyrandomEU | Or instant |
| 01:47.15 | deathnight114 | or when i build a stalker five stalkers will be added to the wave |
| 01:47.19 | deathnight114 | no |
| 01:47.26 | slightlyrandomEU | no build time? |
| 01:47.29 | deathnight114 | well. it's about five seconds |
| 01:47.31 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 01:47.31 | ShadowTiger | event - unit enters region. Condition unit type of (triggering unit) == XXX. Action kill triggering unit. create 5 unit of type ( unit type of (triggering unit) in region. |
| 01:47.41 | slightlyrandomEU | Then instead of training units, make dummy abilities |
| 01:47.45 | ShadowTiger | sorrying event unit enters region (entire map) |
| 01:47.52 | slightlyrandomEU | Ah, wait |
| 01:48.05 | deathnight114 | why would it be the entire map? |
| 01:48.07 | slightlyrandomEU | ShadowTiger: That's infinite |
| 01:48.19 | ShadowTiger | dont make them the same unit silly |
| 01:48.27 | ShadowTiger | yeah i know its wrong |
| 01:48.28 | deathnight114 | what? |
| 01:48.33 | ShadowTiger | but i made it up as i went |
| 01:48.39 | slightlyrandomEU | Or place the building in an area where you can't run your stuff |
| 01:48.50 | slightlyrandomEU | and make a region there :P |
| 01:48.57 | deathnight114 | well... |
| 01:49.03 | deathnight114 | i will have a probe that is able to tech up |
| 01:49.11 | deathnight114 | my buildings and stuff |
| 01:49.15 | ShadowTiger | yeah you need to change the action to create 5 unit of type ( unit type copy) |
| 01:49.17 | deathnight114 | But when he enters the region i dont want him to die |
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| 01:49.25 | ShadowTiger | otherwise it will be an infinite loop |
| 01:49.26 | slightlyrandomEU | Then add a condition |
| 01:49.29 | slightlyrandomEU | easily fixable |
| 01:49.35 | deathnight114 | Will this add it to each wave? |
| 01:49.35 | slightlyrandomEU | Is the build area the same as the fighting area? |
| 01:49.41 | deathnight114 | no |
| 01:49.43 | deathnight114 | hold on |
| 01:49.46 | deathnight114 | i'll send you what i got |
| 01:49.50 | slightlyrandomEU | now again :P |
| 01:49.53 | ShadowTiger | hold on |
| 01:50.03 | ShadowTiger | take this map and fix it for me... then give it back |
| 01:50.06 | slightlyrandomEU | :D |
| 01:50.13 | CocoaMac | I've been looking around in the trigger editor, and I don't seem to be able to find something that'll get me a count of all of a player's units. |
| 01:50.20 | slightlyrandomEU | deathnight114: What you want is to make a region in your building area |
| 01:50.29 | deathnight114 | i've done that |
| 01:50.34 | slightlyrandomEU | Then, as ShadowTiger said, do an event "Any unit enters region" |
| 01:50.43 | slightlyrandomEU | condition, not the probe |
| 01:50.48 | deathnight114 | okay. |
| 01:50.56 | slightlyrandomEU | then remove that unit, and spawn five of them where you want them |
| 01:51.02 | deathnight114 | what about the buildings and regions? |
| 01:51.05 | deathnight114 | But... |
| 01:51.10 | deathnight114 | I dont want it to spawn five only once |
| 01:51.13 | deathnight114 | I want it to spawn five each time |
| 01:51.20 | deathnight114 | and only on the 20 seconds wave. |
| 01:51.22 | deathnight114 | :| |
| 01:51.23 | slightlyrandomEU | Then make it add five to your spawn counter |
| 01:51.32 | deathnight114 | but then if i build a stalker |
| 01:51.35 | deathnight114 | it will make it zealots |
| 01:51.35 | slightlyrandomEU | ehm, spawn wave size variable |
| 01:52.06 | slightlyrandomEU | Then you need a variable to hold how many of each type of unit you spawn each wave |
| 01:52.16 | slightlyrandomEU | and add 5 to the appropriate one |
| 01:52.19 | Mindful | uh, coco, you want number of units in unit group |
| 01:52.38 | Mindful | and then just have the unit group be units owned by player (it might have to be units in region owned by player) |
| 01:52.41 | slightlyrandomEU | Number of units in unit group (units in region matching condition, owned by player) |
| 01:52.47 | Mindful | ^^ |
| 01:52.49 | slightlyrandomEU | :P |
| 01:52.52 | deathnight114 | uhh |
| 01:52.55 | deathnight114 | I have no idea |
| 01:52.57 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 01:53.02 | slightlyrandomEU | That was to CocoaMac |
| 01:53.12 | ShadowTiger | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:53.12 | deathnight114 | i know |
| 01:53.18 | ShadowTiger | yeah its pretty simple |
| 01:53.21 | CocoaMac | I'll check that out, thanks. |
| 01:53.26 | deathnight114 | i've managed to get a resource system going |
| 01:53.27 | Mindful | anyone want to test something for me? |
| 01:53.33 | slightlyrandomEU | Wussat Mindful ? |
| 01:53.39 | ShadowTiger | will you give me a cookie mind? |
| 01:53.47 | Mindful | give like 15 different units the ability to all morph into each other |
| 01:53.55 | Mindful | and see if your game crashes when you try to test the map |
| 01:54.01 | slightlyrandomEU | hah |
| 01:54.03 | ShadowTiger | like chain morphing? |
| 01:54.06 | Mindful | yes |
| 01:54.26 | Threepwood | that would be an interesting map concept |
| 01:54.30 | ShadowTiger | cant you just copy paste banelings 10 times to test that |
| 01:54.39 | Threepwood | have a whole bunch of units that morph into others with a 3-10 second ability |
| 01:54.39 | Mindful | i don't fully understand why, but when i chain enough morphs, my map has a memory access error on load and it crashes |
| 01:54.40 | ShadowTiger | and why do we have to test it just make a new map... |
| 01:54.43 | AsaPhelps | shadow did you figure out your thing yet |
| 01:54.46 | Threepwood | sort of like turning every unit into a viking |
| 01:54.56 | ShadowTiger | i looked at raynors time bomb |
| 01:54.58 | Mindful | becuase shadow it might be something local to me |
| 01:55.02 | Mindful | and i'd like to know if it is |
| 01:55.02 | ShadowTiger | it doesnt look like it effects missles |
| 01:55.18 | slightlyrandomEU | well, Imma go get some sleep |
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| 01:55.27 | deathnight114 | http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0h9l2lpf0cummx6 |
| 01:55.29 | deathnight114 | that's my map |
| 01:55.31 | deathnight114 | god damnit... |
| 01:55.41 | deathnight114 | and i dont have any idea how to do this |
| 01:55.51 | deathnight114 | it's my first map though, and i think it's pretty good for my first |
| 01:55.53 | deathnight114 | :P |
| 01:56.04 | ShadowTiger | ive been making maps since before you were born |
| 01:56.13 | deathnight114 | srsly? |
| 01:56.16 | deathnight114 | When lol |
| 01:56.21 | ShadowTiger | no unless you are 12 years old |
| 01:56.29 | deathnight114 | im 14 |
| 01:56.31 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 01:56.32 | ShadowTiger | close |
| 01:56.37 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 01:56.44 | deathnight114 | fun fact |
| 01:56.49 | deathnight114 | i've had starcraft since 98 cuz of my bro |
| 01:56.51 | deathnight114 | :P |
| 01:57.23 | ShadowTiger | theres nothing in the editor i cant do |
| 01:57.25 | Lisk | hmm.. is it still necessary to null any variables we use (i.e. locals) ? |
| 01:57.28 | ShadowTiger | that is do-able |
| 01:57.32 | Mindful | damnit |
| 01:57.35 | Mindful | i was about to ask you to fix this |
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| 01:57.46 | Mindful | but tbh i dont think its doable =/ |
| 01:57.50 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 01:58.00 | ShadowTiger | ill help you if you can make my td not crash anymore |
| 01:58.15 | Mindful | when does it crash? |
| 01:58.25 | ShadowTiger | when it does the spawn units trigger |
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| 01:58.38 | Mindful | :O can i see the trigger? |
| 01:58.40 | ShadowTiger | i tried making a new spawn units trigger with less junk and it works fine |
| 02:00.38 | Mindful | so then what's the problem? |
| 02:00.51 | Fatal51011 | so how am i suppose to get back on my ship to fulfill some of the achievements i didnt do the first run through? |
| 02:01.07 | Mindful | start a new campaign or load a save i assume |
| 02:01.31 | Fatal51011 | This is my first complaint about this game then! |
| 02:01.45 | Fatal51011 | they should stick you back on your ship after you beat it. not this crappy mission list |
| 02:02.37 | Mindful | anyone know the max number of abilities on a unit? |
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| 02:02.53 | AsaPhelps | a billion? |
| 02:03.10 | AsaPhelps | do you mean for the command cards? |
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| 02:03.22 | Mindful | nope, abilities period |
| 02:03.28 | Mindful | just mashed the button though, its lower than i thought |
| 02:03.30 | Mindful | appears to be 31 |
| 02:03.33 | Threepwood | command cards, buttons that you can see, should be 15. |
| 02:03.42 | Fatal51011 | 15 per page |
| 02:03.43 | AsaPhelps | that is rather low |
| 02:03.43 | Fatal51011 | 4 pages |
| 02:03.48 | Threepwood | 4 pages? |
| 02:03.51 | Fatal51011 | yes? |
| 02:03.57 | AsaPhelps | *gets a calculator* |
| 02:03.59 | Threepwood | you mean like build menus? |
| 02:04.03 | Fatal51011 | yes? |
| 02:04.04 | Mindful | yeah, but i dont think you can fit enough abilities on a unit to fill those 4 pages |
| 02:04.07 | AsaPhelps | 5 pages? |
| 02:04.12 | Fatal51011 | 4? |
| 02:04.13 | Threepwood | nah then it'd be 31 |
| 02:04.17 | Mindful | unless you used abilities with multiple commands like build or something |
| 02:04.18 | ShadowTiger | lol i just figured out where my td was crashing : / |
| 02:04.22 | AsaPhelps | is there 4 submenus |
| 02:04.58 | AsaPhelps | was it because you made a wave of jukeboxes? |
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| 02:05.27 | ShadowTiger | i think its the create tip function that crashes it maybe |
| 02:05.51 | Threepwood | yeah don't use any of those SS prefix'd units/specials |
| 02:06.00 | ShadowTiger | why not? |
| 02:06.04 | Threepwood | the poly count is so high i can't even count it. |
| 02:06.17 | ShadowTiger | how many fingers do you have? |
| 02:06.24 | Mindful | holy crap |
| 02:06.25 | Threepwood | put like 10 of them together on a map with high settings and you'll see, it eats processing like mad |
| 02:06.29 | Mindful | i might actually have figured this problem out |
| 02:06.43 | ShadowTiger | nice hopefully we will all succeed |
| 02:07.06 | Mindful | not nice; its unsolvable |
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| 02:07.16 | Threepwood | nothing is unsolvable! |
| 02:07.25 | Mindful | increase the max number of unit abilities |
| 02:07.29 | Mindful | then |
| 02:07.39 | Threepwood | how many abilities can you possibly need |
| 02:07.44 | Mindful | not that many, but |
| 02:07.46 | Threepwood | can't you just attach a locust unit to it with another 31? |
| 02:07.54 | Mindful | it appears that units that can morph into each other share a maximum number of abilities |
| 02:08.02 | Threepwood | ohhhh man that blows |
| 02:08.04 | Mindful | yes |
| 02:08.06 | Mindful | it really blows |
| 02:08.18 | Mindful | going to try and confirm it real fast |
| 02:08.25 | Threepwood | you can fix it with a trigger. |
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| 02:08.31 | deathnight114 | shadowtiger, any luck on my map? |
| 02:08.44 | ShadowTiger | what... was i supposed to do something? |
| 02:08.45 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 02:08.47 | deathnight114 | I want to see what you do with it too because that will help me learn how to do this stuff |
| 02:08.50 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 02:08.54 | ShadowTiger | i have an sc1 map that does what you want |
| 02:08.55 | deathnight114 | I asked you to take a look @ It |
| 02:09.05 | deathnight114 | huh? but i want starcraft 2 |
| 02:09.07 | deathnight114 | lol... |
| 02:09.08 | deathnight114 | http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0h9l2lpf0cummx6 |
| 02:09.10 | deathnight114 | theres the map file |
| 02:09.37 | Threepwood | are any of you familiar with castlefight? |
| 02:09.54 | ShadowTiger | is that the famous youtube video? |
| 02:10.20 | ShadowTiger | where the castle comes home one day and his wife finds out he was cheating on her |
| 02:10.22 | Threepwood | no, it's a map for warcraft 3 where you construct buildings that auto-train units |
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| 02:10.34 | ShadowTiger | and all the kings horses and all the kings men couldnt make things right again |
| 02:10.37 | Threepwood | and theres hard and soft counters, special buildings, custom unit AI etc. |
| 02:11.03 | ShadowTiger | meh whats the point of playing a game where you dont micro |
| 02:11.13 | Threepwood | i don't know enough about sc2's editor yet to determine whether or not some events should be triggered or ability based |
| 02:11.22 | ShadowTiger | actually thats a good point |
| 02:11.25 | Threepwood | i'm not sure which puts a larger strain on the processors, i'm assuming triggered will |
| 02:11.32 | Threepwood | the point shadow is that you have to think macro |
| 02:11.32 | ShadowTiger | in sc2 it is equally viable to do either one |
| 02:11.40 | ShadowTiger | you shuold put it in data whenever possible |
| 02:11.42 | Threepwood | and theres some elements of micro i'd like to add, builder spells and such |
| 02:11.49 | Threepwood | so data has a smaller cpu footprint? |
| 02:11.51 | ShadowTiger | i think 95% of stuff can/should be data only |
| 02:11.53 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 02:12.11 | Threepwood | what about one time triggers, are they still heavy? |
| 02:12.13 | ShadowTiger | if you have to many triggers it will start saying "thread limit reached" |
| 02:12.20 | ShadowTiger | one time triggers are fine |
| 02:12.29 | Mindful | yup |
| 02:12.30 | Mindful | wow |
| 02:12.30 | ShadowTiger | its just stuff that triggers on ability use and stuff like that |
| 02:12.35 | Mindful | this screws half my map concept |
| 02:12.36 | Mindful | awsome |
| 02:12.40 | Threepwood | good segue, sir mindful |
| 02:12.45 | Threepwood | use a triggered dummy ability |
| 02:12.47 | ShadowTiger | wait is that sarcastic? |
| 02:12.59 | Mindful | going to have to trigger a ton of my abilities |
| 02:12.59 | Threepwood | no, seriously that was exactly what i was leading into |
| 02:13.03 | Mindful | like you said threep |
| 02:13.08 | Threepwood | mindful, just trigger like 5 or 6 |
| 02:13.16 | Mindful | going to take a lot more than that |
| 02:13.19 | Threepwood | they won't go off like crazy, only when that particular morph is used |
| 02:13.24 | Threepwood | well how many abilities do you need per unit? |
| 02:13.31 | Eagl3s1ght | Is there anyway to regenerate energy on SC2? Not editor wise but ingame |
| 02:13.33 | RedWraith | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248105532 |
| 02:13.35 | RedWraith | fell right down |
| 02:13.35 | RedWraith | :( |
| 02:13.36 | Threepwood | if you wanted, not counting attack, move stop etc, like 4 per unit |
| 02:13.42 | Threepwood | you'd only have to trigger once every 7 units in the chain |
| 02:13.56 | Mindful | oh |
| 02:13.59 | Mindful | you mean trigger some of the morphs |
| 02:14.01 | Mindful | at key points |
| 02:14.02 | Threepwood | yes |
| 02:14.08 | Threepwood | like have 7 units that all morph into each other |
| 02:14.10 | Mindful | that's going to suck, but it's a really good idea |
| 02:14.12 | Threepwood | that brings the cap near 28-31 |
| 02:14.20 | Mindful | it's much better than me having to redo 90% of it |
| 02:14.21 | Threepwood | then make just one morph that moves you into a new chain of 7-8 units |
| 02:14.55 | Mindful | ok, someone try just one thing for me |
| 02:14.58 | Threepwood | i don't know what your map is, but the idea of morphing/transforming in combat has always had some issues attached to it |
| 02:15.10 | Mindful | add 16 abilities to the assault mode viking |
| 02:15.11 | Threepwood | like if you morph for 10 seconds to make an archon, it can't do anything and takes damage for those 10 seconds |
| 02:15.19 | Mindful | and 16 different ones to the flying viking |
| 02:15.23 | Mindful | and tell me if your game crashes |
| 02:15.47 | Threepwood | you might consider changing the functionality of morphing, so that it can be both a powerful but costly spell and a morph |
| 02:15.57 | Mindful | this would be enormously helpful; I need to know it's not just me |
| 02:15.58 | Threepwood | like changing from a viking into assault which, upon landing, sends out a ground aoe shockwave |
| 02:16.08 | Mindful | and threep most of the morphs aren't intended to be used in combat |
| 02:16.13 | Threepwood | i would but i have a video rendering for another... 6 hours |
| 02:16.30 | Threepwood | ah i see, well i figured if you had morph be both a spell and a morph, it could be used for multiple tactical decisions |
| 02:17.27 | Mindful | anyone? |
| 02:17.35 | Mindful | all i need you to do is just add some abilities to a viking |
| 02:18.09 | RedWraith | Mindful, just give them a copy of your incomplete map |
| 02:18.12 | RedWraith | ask someone you trust |
| 02:18.21 | Mindful | i need to know it's not me/my map though :P |
| 02:18.25 | Mindful | it could be either |
| 02:18.29 | Vailreth | ok ill try it |
| 02:18.45 | Mindful | just add 16 abilities to the flying viking, and 16 different ones to the ground viking, and then test the map |
| 02:19.00 | Mindful | thank you tons |
| 02:19.09 | Vailreth | ok i see the problem already i think... but i will try it |
| 02:19.18 | Technomancer | how do I change the tint of a weapon? |
| 02:19.19 | Threepwood | were the abilities you were using passives and actives? |
| 02:19.27 | Threepwood | because i assume they all had an icon |
| 02:19.29 | Mindful | the problem appears to be that units that morph into each other share a max abilities |
| 02:19.30 | Technomancer | like a laser blast for instance |
| 02:19.48 | Mindful | well, considering there aren't passive abilities, they were all actives |
| 02:19.53 | Mindful | i had some icons there for passives though |
| 02:19.59 | Mindful | representing behaviors |
| 02:20.00 | Threepwood | there are no passive abilities? |
| 02:20.02 | RedWraith | Mindful, you could always use train I think. |
| 02:20.37 | Mindful | i'll go look at train real fast |
| 02:20.43 | Threepwood | i think red's right |
| 02:20.50 | Mindful | threep there are passives, but they're handled as behaviors instead ofa bilities |
| 02:20.52 | Threepwood | you could just train it into the next unit and kill the first upon completion |
| 02:20.56 | Threepwood | ahh |
| 02:21.51 | Mindful | well the main reason i'm so torn up about this is that alot ofm y script goes off a unit already on the map (the unit with all the morphs) |
| 02:22.00 | Mindful | i did this becuase of all the events that don't work with variables :P |
| 02:22.15 | Mindful | if i HAVE to, i can circumvent it by adding events to triggers, it's just going to be a lot of extra work |
| 02:22.29 | Mindful | (or adding a ton of conditions, but that's really inefficient) |
| 02:24.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (516f48df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.72.223) |
| 02:25.00 | wOlfLinG | So, can anyone help me with something? |
| 02:25.13 | Mindful | what is it? |
| 02:25.30 | wOlfLinG | I want to make a 'Base in a box'. ie. an item that becomes an 'all in 1' structure |
| 02:25.40 | Vailreth | ok mindful i have given the viking in both forms 16 diffrent abilities |
| 02:25.41 | wOlfLinG | And can be repacked |
| 02:25.46 | Mindful | are you familiar with how to create items? |
| 02:25.48 | Mindful | 16 in each form? |
| 02:25.58 | Vailreth | yep |
| 02:26.02 | Mindful | k |
| 02:26.07 | Mindful | keep in mind share abilities don't count twice |
| 02:26.09 | wOlfLinG | I want it to upgrade. Eg. You have the base, and upgrade it with 1 barracks |
| 02:26.16 | Mindful | try and run the map |
| 02:26.29 | wOlfLinG | Then when you repack and unpack elsewhere, the barracks will still be in it |
| 02:26.30 | Vailreth | let me add some more just to be safe |
| 02:26.36 | Mindful | alright |
| 02:26.43 | Mindful | wolf you're probably going to have to use script for that |
| 02:26.44 | Threepwood | what you could do wolf is use a morph |
| 02:26.59 | Mindful | i would suggest a morph except that the unit he's changing into is changing |
| 02:27.00 | Threepwood | nahh, have the command center 'morph' into a command center with a barracks near it |
| 02:27.01 | wOlfLinG | yeah. But do behaviours carry on through morphs? |
| 02:27.12 | Threepwood | if they don't, apply the old to the new |
| 02:27.15 | Mindful | if the behaviors are NOT part of the morphing unit, then yes |
| 02:27.32 | Mindful | if you want a behavior that is part of the unit to carry through a morph just give it to both units |
| 02:27.36 | wOlfLinG | Tbh, rather than changing the model, it will just affect how much can be trained at once |
| 02:27.48 | Threepwood | if theres no model change its easy |
| 02:28.06 | wOlfLinG | So building a barracks means you can train marines, adding a marauder hub lets you train 1 marauder and 1 marine at once etc |
| 02:28.06 | Threepwood | just use research to 'discover' the barracks, then unlock all the unit training in that one page |
| 02:28.34 | Threepwood | you won't even need a trigger, just the ability to 'pack' and then 'unpack' the same building |
| 02:28.57 | Threepwood | i don't know much about the way reactors work in the editor |
| 02:29.04 | Threepwood | you might not be able to train more than 2 at the same time from the same structure |
| 02:29.07 | Vailreth | yep she crashes |
| 02:29.10 | wOlfLinG | :/ |
| 02:29.16 | Mindful | well |
| 02:29.20 | Mindful | i am sad to know this is an editor limitation |
| 02:29.25 | Mindful | but i am happy to know that it's not just me |
| 02:29.27 | Threepwood | it isn't a very crippling one |
| 02:29.37 | wOlfLinG | Maybe i could just do upgrades. So build a barracks lets you train a marine from the base |
| 02:29.38 | Mindful | no, but it's pretty annoying |
| 02:29.40 | Threepwood | just use a trigger every so often, one trigger with 4 or 5 conditionals should do it |
| 02:29.44 | Threepwood | yeah it is kinda irritating |
| 02:29.53 | wOlfLinG | and a marauder hub and a rax lets you train a marine OR a marauder |
| 02:29.59 | Mindful | it wouldn't be bad if it didn't extend beyond just one morph but like |
| 02:30.08 | Mindful | i have one unit that can morph into 3 other units, who can morph into 3 other units... |
| 02:30.20 | Threepwood | you need a morph tree |
| 02:30.33 | Threepwood | sit down and write it all out so you know which units to give the dummy ability to |
| 02:30.40 | Mindful | i have the tree planned out |
| 02:30.47 | Mindful | i just wasn't planning to have to work around something like this :P |
| 02:30.52 | Vailreth | wait with only the four command cards how are you going to do a proper base in a box? |
| 02:30.56 | Threepwood | it is quite a bit of additional work |
| 02:31.00 | Mindful | i'm going to test the drone's build ability though |
| 02:31.10 | Mindful | it's not a morph, but it might work for something like this |
| 02:31.31 | Vailreth | maybe the larvas ability instead? |
| 02:31.56 | Threepwood | thats just a morph |
| 02:32.11 | Vailreth | i thought it was a train .. eh well |
| 02:32.35 | Mindful | i think it is actually |
| 02:32.36 | Mindful | one moment |
| 02:32.46 | Mindful | it is in fact a drain |
| 02:32.47 | Mindful | train* |
| 02:32.52 | Threepwood | wow really? |
| 02:33.02 | Vailreth | yep |
| 02:33.05 | Threepwood | it consumes the larva and all huh |
| 02:33.20 | Technomancer | okay question |
| 02:33.24 | Mindful | well, here's question of truth |
| 02:33.28 | Mindful | does it count as the same unit? |
| 02:33.36 | Mindful | (for the purpose of variables) |
| 02:33.37 | Technomancer | how do I change the tint of say, the archon psionic blast, or the void ray prismatic beam? |
| 02:33.39 | Vailreth | no i dont think so .. |
| 02:33.44 | Threepwood | seems like the bug isn't just you so try it out |
| 02:33.53 | Threepwood | i know you could do it in photoshop techno |
| 02:34.01 | Threepwood | or a 3d model file editing program |
| 02:34.09 | Technomancer | no its a light effect.... no no no there IS an actor for it |
| 02:34.11 | Threepwood | in the editor i haven't found anything that does that yet |
| 02:34.13 | Technomancer | im just not sure how to apply it |
| 02:34.14 | Threepwood | ahh |
| 02:34.19 | Technomancer | there is a set tint actor |
| 02:34.22 | Technomancer | but I tried it |
| 02:34.22 | Vailreth | i wish they had team colored those beams |
| 02:34.37 | Technomancer | and it hasnt worked, because... not sure, its under the beam actor |
| 02:34.57 | Threepwood | didn't work tech? |
| 02:35.11 | Vailreth | no tint beams doesnt work as far as i know |
| 02:35.12 | AsaPhelps | techno, go to the actor and add an events+ with set tint |
| 02:35.20 | AsaPhelps | so event, actor creation |
| 02:35.27 | AsaPhelps | set tint 123456FF |
| 02:35.42 | Threepwood | incidentally, does anyone know of a website similar to the wc3 modding community, with repositories and tutorials and all that jazz? |
| 02:35.51 | Mindful | um |
| 02:35.53 | Mindful | sc2mapster |
| 02:36.02 | Threepwood | i'm trying to figure out if anyone has uploaded model files or even started working on some |
| 02:36.12 | Threepwood | and i can't find anywhere that explicitly hosts stuff like that |
| 02:36.22 | Threepwood | i've been around mapster, maybe it's just too early yet |
| 02:36.46 | Vailreth | yeah the retail hasnt even been out a full week yet ,, |
| 02:37.10 | AsaPhelps | techno any luck? |
| 02:37.23 | AsaPhelps | http://i49.tinypic.com/2e3ddvl.jpg thats what I did to a void ray beam, he rapes. |
| 02:37.45 | Threepwood | the hell did you do? |
| 02:37.50 | Technomancer | oh you add the events? |
| 02:38.00 | AsaPhelps | yes, the field doesn't seem to work |
| 02:38.06 | AsaPhelps | but events+ do |
| 02:38.16 | Vailreth | the events didnt when i tried |
| 02:38.27 | AsaPhelps | actor creation |
| 02:38.32 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 02:38.32 | Technomancer | AsaPhelps, obscure simpsons reference :P Abe's old 2nd WW2 buddy :P |
| 02:38.33 | AsaPhelps | set tint hotpink |
| 02:38.55 | AsaPhelps | techomancer, someone who likes to set people on techno |
| 02:39.12 | Technomancer | actually it refers to a form of magic that is technologically-based |
| 02:39.12 | Threepwood | mancer is more like one who practices the art of |
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| 02:39.22 | AsaPhelps | if you look at that pic i made his little beams a difference color too because voids have like 300 beams |
| 02:39.27 | Threepwood | necromancy is the art of necrolitic stuff, etc. |
| 02:39.33 | ProzaicMuze | go go gadget data editor! |
| 02:39.36 | Threepwood | ohh, speaking of beams! |
| 02:39.41 | Technomancer | HOW THE FUCK DID YOU DO THAT?!?!?! |
| 02:39.42 | Threepwood | you guys know the drill in that one mission |
| 02:39.49 | AsaPhelps | muze i need your assistance |
| 02:39.53 | Threepwood | with the colossal targetting thing on its target before it fires? |
| 02:39.58 | ProzaicMuze | What with? |
| 02:40.11 | Technomancer | Well I mean that is the void ray beam, and why is it so spread out and wavy?!?!?! |
| 02:40.17 | Threepwood | i'm trying to figure out how to make that particular beam just keep going through the unit, doing varying damage depending on distance |
| 02:40.22 | Technomancer | I MUST know how u do that |
| 02:40.34 | AsaPhelps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVDxxJaBmKs at the end the missiles fall to the ground with physics, any idea how that is? |
| 02:40.34 | ProzaicMuze | It's not the void ray beam |
| 02:40.38 | Threepwood | i expect i'll need to use triggers.. |
| 02:40.40 | ProzaicMuze | Just FYI |
| 02:40.42 | AsaPhelps | i changed its scale |
| 02:40.49 | Technomancer | it's not? |
| 02:40.50 | ProzaicMuze | And it's not done with triggers |
| 02:40.51 | ProzaicMuze | No |
| 02:41.02 | ProzaicMuze | Wait |
| 02:41.07 | Technomancer | you're talking about the picture Asa linked? |
| 02:41.08 | ProzaicMuze | Techno, what are you talking about? |
| 02:41.08 | AsaPhelps | he's talking about the distance of a beam not what I linked |
| 02:41.17 | Threepwood | i mean distance specific damage |
| 02:41.18 | Technomancer | well I mean the picture of the void ray |
| 02:41.22 | ProzaicMuze | My comment is directed to Threep lol |
| 02:41.22 | AsaPhelps | http://i49.tinypic.com/2e3ddvl.jpg thats just with the data editor |
| 02:41.26 | Threepwood | like laser falloff |
| 02:41.42 | Threepwood | can that be done without using triggers to run algorithms to check distance? |
| 02:41.43 | ProzaicMuze | and Threepwood, you do that with Data Editor only |
| 02:41.46 | AsaPhelps | you could maybe add a behavior based on distance that multiplies damage |
| 02:41.48 | Threepwood | really! |
| 02:41.53 | Technomancer | Right |
| 02:41.56 | Technomancer | How do you do that?!? |
| 02:41.59 | AsaPhelps | like 10 units of the laer take 10x damage, 20 away take 5x |
| 02:42.00 | ProzaicMuze | using a dummy damage effect at the end of a persistent with periodic offsets |
| 02:42.08 | Technomancer | Asa You must tell me |
| 02:42.12 | Threepwood | yes asa, thats exactly what i want to use |
| 02:42.12 | AsaPhelps | you change the scale |
| 02:42.42 | AsaPhelps | to tint it just go to events+; actor creation, set tint redredredredred |
| 02:42.59 | AsaPhelps | make sure its the right beam |
| 02:43.05 | AsaPhelps | voids have so many |
| 02:43.09 | Technomancer | what Data type tab? |
| 02:43.25 | Mindful | nvm |
| 02:43.26 | AsaPhelps | go to the actor |
| 02:43.28 | Mindful | definitely not the same unit |
| 02:43.32 | AsaPhelps | of the beam |
| 02:43.32 | Mindful | ability has a flag "kill on complete" |
| 02:43.39 | AsaPhelps | i don't know which one it is |
| 02:43.41 | ProzaicMuze | @Asa - you can give missiles gravity with movers |
| 02:43.58 | AsaPhelps | oh good idea |
| 02:44.10 | AsaPhelps | can you have a unit change its mover |
| 02:44.12 | Vailreth | heya Prozaic |
| 02:44.13 | ProzaicMuze | I "think" you can change a missile's mover |
| 02:44.20 | ProzaicMuze | But I haven't looked into it |
| 02:44.27 | ProzaicMuze | It would probably depend on what you're using to change it |
| 02:44.30 | AsaPhelps | did you find it techno? |
| 02:44.51 | ProzaicMuze | Hey Vail |
| 02:44.54 | Vailreth | the editor and everything still working for you? |
| 02:44.54 | AsaPhelps | well I wonder if you can make a behavior change a mover |
| 02:44.57 | ProzaicMuze | yep |
| 02:45.02 | ProzaicMuze | So I think I'm golden :) |
| 02:45.02 | Vailreth | sweet |
| 02:45.12 | Mindful | btw prozaic |
| 02:45.16 | Technomancer | wait |
| 02:45.17 | ProzaicMuze | Asa, are you wanting just one particular missile to be changing? or all missiles? |
| 02:45.20 | Mindful | were you aware that morphing units shared a max number of abilities? |
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| 02:45.39 | Technomancer | well im using Archon psionic blast so im unsure if its Archon Attack or Archon Attack Beam im changing |
| 02:45.40 | ProzaicMuze | @Mindful - despite being two different units? |
| 02:45.46 | AsaPhelps | well I'm trying to mimic that effect in the video, I just want the missiles to drop to the ground because it looks cool |
| 02:45.48 | Vailreth | i figured out why my game was using an old dependency that it wasnt even set to use... |
| 02:45.55 | Mindful | well, i should've seen it coming earlier, but they aren't really two different units |
| 02:46.00 | Mindful | morphing doesn't reset a unit variable |
| 02:46.02 | AsaPhelps | hmm, maybe I could make them morph to change movers |
| 02:46.15 | Mindful | but yeah, try adding 16 abilities to a ground viking, and 16 different ones to an air viking |
| 02:46.16 | ProzaicMuze | It does if you physically make a 2nd unit and have the 1st morph into the 2nd |
| 02:46.24 | Mindful | editor crashes on startup |
| 02:46.36 | Mindful | erm |
| 02:46.45 | Mindful | i have a trigger for when a specific unit takes damage |
| 02:46.53 | Mindful | even if the unit morphs, it still fires off of the unit that unit morphed into |
| 02:47.00 | Vailreth | have you given one unit more than 15 abilities? other than the vikings? |
| 02:47.01 | Technomancer | Asa: So im in Event - Events+... |
| 02:47.01 | AsaPhelps | does he take terrible terrible damage |
| 02:47.07 | Mindful | yeah vail |
| 02:47.08 | Technomancer | what kind of event do I add? what is the message time? |
| 02:47.23 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 02:47.23 | AsaPhelps | right click add event |
| 02:47.27 | AsaPhelps | then pick actor creation |
| 02:47.29 | Mindful | not two units, but i discovered this problem becuase i was trying to link ~19 units together |
| 02:47.30 | Technomancer | right and |
| 02:47.32 | AsaPhelps | and thats it for that line |
| 02:47.48 | AsaPhelps | then on the thing under it |
| 02:47.48 | Technomancer | and then for Source Name? |
| 02:48.08 | Vailreth | wasnt some one else having a problem with the game using dependancies other than those specified? |
| 02:48.12 | AsaPhelps | you don't need a source name |
| 02:48.18 | AsaPhelps | click the movie thing |
| 02:48.24 | AsaPhelps | so the first line is just actor cration |
| 02:48.25 | Mindful | uh, idk, but i don't think it's related :P |
| 02:48.32 | Technomancer | right |
| 02:48.33 | AsaPhelps | and then under that click whatever is there |
| 02:48.36 | Mindful | anyway, @Prozaic, i was just trying to give back for all the help you've given me |
| 02:48.37 | Technomancer | Msg Type is Actor Creation |
| 02:48.41 | Technomancer | ohhhh |
| 02:48.42 | Technomancer | Action |
| 02:48.43 | AsaPhelps | actionimpact |
| 02:48.45 | Technomancer | Action Impact |
| 02:48.46 | Technomancer | RIGHT |
| 02:48.48 | Mindful | i figured this might be the one time ever that I knew something you hadn't figured out yet :P |
| 02:48.49 | AsaPhelps | change that to set tint color |
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| 02:48.53 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 02:48.57 | ProzaicMuze | Well I'll have to look into it |
| 02:49.01 | AsaPhelps | right so the action is actorcreation |
| 02:49.09 | ProzaicMuze | You may very well be correct :) I havent' tried more than 3-4 abilities on a morphing unit |
| 02:49.09 | AsaPhelps | action impact is set tint color |
| 02:49.14 | Mindful | if you prove me wrong, i will be insanely happy |
| 02:49.24 | ProzaicMuze | I'll be sure to let you know :) |
| 02:49.27 | Mindful | alright |
| 02:49.27 | Technomancer | cheers m8 |
| 02:49.28 | Mindful | :P |
| 02:49.29 | AsaPhelps | then click the color and pick hot pink |
| 02:49.29 | Technomancer | I did it |
| 02:49.43 | Technomancer | lol I made it yellow-orange, thanks ^_^ |
| 02:49.44 | AsaPhelps | did you test it |
| 02:49.47 | Technomancer | im not doing void beam |
| 02:49.53 | ProzaicMuze | I think the Morphing tutorial is going to win, so I'll likely try getting it to work when I do that next week. |
| 02:49.53 | Technomancer | im doing archon blast |
| 02:50.01 | AsaPhelps | you should make a seizure beam |
| 02:50.06 | AsaPhelps | changes color rapidly |
| 02:50.08 | Technomancer | who me? |
| 02:50.15 | Technomancer | how do you do that? |
| 02:50.20 | AsaPhelps | your tutorials rock just like you do proziac |
| 02:50.24 | Lisk | is there any way to display a message to players, but control how long it is displayed? |
| 02:50.29 | AsaPhelps | well that would require timers probably |
| 02:50.31 | ProzaicMuze | lol I do what I can :) |
| 02:50.39 | ProzaicMuze | I'm gonna try to pump out 6 this weekend since I'm behind. |
| 02:50.42 | ProzaicMuze | We'll see how it goes Xp |
| 02:50.52 | Lisk | there's no simple equivalent of DisplayTimedTextToForce from WC3, then? |
| 02:51.01 | AsaPhelps | i might start making some basic tutorials |
| 02:51.42 | Technomancer | testing Asa |
| 02:51.45 | Technomancer | you oughta |
| 02:51.50 | Technomancer | if you can get me to do something right |
| 02:51.54 | Technomancer | you're a fuckin good teacher XD |
| 02:51.57 | AsaPhelps | what are you testing |
| 02:52.20 | AsaPhelps | you can set a blend time on the color too |
| 02:52.51 | AsaPhelps | hmm i wonder what a cycle blend does |
| 02:53.03 | AsaPhelps | i wonder if that just makes it go from default to the color and back |
| 02:53.11 | ProzaicMuze | Cycle is 0 > 1, 0 > 1 |
| 02:53.21 | ProzaicMuze | Bounce is 0 > 1 > 0, 0 > 1 > 0 |
| 02:53.38 | AsaPhelps | how would you have it go from yellow to red to yellow etc instead of white to red white to red |
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| 02:53.49 | ProzaicMuze | Bounce |
| 02:54.25 | Threepwood | how do i figure out which spells and abilities cancel orders? |
| 02:54.44 | AsaPhelps | I think there's a flag for that |
| 02:54.45 | Threepwood | like if i set a marine to attack move to a point 60 seconds away and he gets.. i dunno, void prison'd half way there |
| 02:54.55 | Threepwood | do i need a conditional trigger to re-order him when he un stuns? |
| 02:55.12 | Threepwood | you say theres a flag to set so that his order doesn't get lost? |
| 02:55.54 | Technomancer | Was testing changed archon beam colour |
| 02:57.30 | AsaPhelps | i'm not sure three |
| 02:57.42 | AsaPhelps | there's probably a way since tds have stuns and what not |
| 02:57.53 | Threepwood | well i suppose i'll cross that bridge when i come to it |
| 02:57.59 | ShadowTiger | wait what... td stuns... can i help? |
| 02:58.03 | Threepwood | yeah but i'm assuming thats just an 'always' 'order units at this position to move to that position' |
| 02:58.18 | Threepwood | so it would require a region based constantly active trigger |
| 02:58.22 | AsaPhelps | he wants to know how when you have a unit who has a move order and gets stopped to continue when he can move again |
| 02:58.25 | Threepwood | or maybe there is a way |
| 02:58.50 | ShadowTiger | i think you use behaviors for that |
| 02:59.01 | Threepwood | with the few days i've spent screwing around in the editor i can safely say i doubt we'll find anything we can't eventually do |
| 02:59.10 | m50 | threep, you could just have a periodic event (like every 3 seconds) to give the unit an order to move to a location |
| 02:59.11 | AsaPhelps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QVBHq4PnAY what do you guys think of that? quality sucks because youtube is so slow |
| 02:59.11 | ShadowTiger | my solution was to make the unit have 0.01% move speed |
| 02:59.15 | Threepwood | i'll look into behaviors |
| 02:59.22 | ShadowTiger | since if you make the unit not able to move it will lose its orders |
| 02:59.25 | Threepwood | yeah but that would cause a potential 3 second delay where he just sits there doing nothing |
| 02:59.35 | Threepwood | yeah but that probably doesn't trigger standing animation |
| 02:59.40 | Threepwood | you'd have a slow motion michael jackson unit |
| 02:59.41 | m50 | then check if he is idle, and give him the order |
| 02:59.43 | Threepwood | doing that super slow walk |
| 02:59.52 | ShadowTiger | no you cant tell that he is moving |
| 03:00.07 | m50 | you can check if they are idle however |
| 03:00.08 | ShadowTiger | if the stun is only a few seconds |
| 03:00.08 | Threepwood | you could with an algorithm but that'd defeat the point |
| 03:00.23 | m50 | go check out onetwo's new tutorial series |
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| 03:00.28 | m50 | the zergling attack one |
| 03:00.32 | Threepwood | yeah i'm going to do that m50 |
| 03:00.36 | m50 | he shows you how to check if they are idle |
| 03:00.42 | Slake_ | loading campaign dependencies doesn't work. what do. |
| 03:00.44 | Threepwood | i need to sit down and cram it, i'm too tired to really learn anything right now from a tutorial |
| 03:00.49 | Threepwood | what dependencies? |
| 03:00.51 | AsaPhelps | lol there's a mover called Drunken Missile |
| 03:01.06 | Threepwood | lol, randomly wanders towards a general area? |
| 03:01.16 | m50 | asa, that is AWESOME! is that done with triggers or data? |
| 03:01.39 | ShadowTiger | drunken missle is awesome! |
| 03:01.56 | Slake_ | so yeah. |
| 03:02.02 | Threepwood | ASA! |
| 03:02.06 | Threepwood | you got timebomb back! |
| 03:02.06 | Slake_ | campaign dependencies don't work. |
| 03:02.14 | Threepwood | did you find it somewhere in the editor or did you build it yourself? |
| 03:02.23 | Threepwood | slake did you go and set the dependencies after creating the map? |
| 03:02.32 | Slake_ | yes, afterwards |
| 03:02.35 | goomba_ | hi everyone |
| 03:02.38 | AsaPhelps | its not the full time bomb |
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| 03:02.44 | Threepwood | its very resemblant |
| 03:02.46 | Threepwood | and it is very awesome |
| 03:02.48 | AsaPhelps | the missiles hit you after it ends |
| 03:02.49 | Slake_ | but the map was created recently. |
| 03:02.50 | Threepwood | such a cool ability |
| 03:02.53 | AsaPhelps | but i could kill them too |
| 03:02.56 | Threepwood | well yeah, but you know what |
| 03:02.58 | AsaPhelps | lol the zealot got raped |
| 03:02.59 | Threepwood | you could have them be taken out slowly |
| 03:03.03 | Threepwood | by some kind of point defense drone |
| 03:03.03 | ShadowTiger | asaphelps thats exactly what i wanted in my map! |
| 03:03.05 | AsaPhelps | because there were like 300 spires |
| 03:03.09 | Threepwood | so time bomb aids the ship in dealing with LOTS of missiles |
| 03:03.17 | Threepwood | as it'd allow your PD drone to shoot down more of them |
| 03:03.28 | Threepwood | i assume they're still shootable while suspended like that |
| 03:03.28 | AsaPhelps | pd drones have instant shots though |
| 03:03.34 | Threepwood | they don't have to |
| 03:03.42 | Threepwood | and you can have them with infinite ammo and a 1-2 second reload |
| 03:03.47 | AsaPhelps | i want to figure out how to make the missiles fall down |
| 03:03.50 | Threepwood | making the mothership unkillable by a single slow firing projectile unit |
| 03:03.50 | AsaPhelps | because thats op |
| 03:03.53 | Threepwood | ohhh yeah that'd be AWESOME |
| 03:03.57 | Threepwood | slake go to file |
| 03:04.04 | Threepwood | go to dependencies... |
| 03:04.12 | Threepwood | and go to add standard, add both campaign and the other one |
| 03:04.19 | Threepwood | then save the map, close the editor and reload it |
| 03:04.26 | Vailreth | does any one know why the game can only load form the starcraft programfiles directory for mod files? |
| 03:04.40 | Threepwood | might be registry written when you install the game |
| 03:05.41 | Saeris1 | hmmmm |
| 03:05.45 | m50 | asaphelps, was that done using trigger or data editor? |
| 03:06.09 | Saeris1 | anybody have an idea how I would add multiple targets to a heal? such as the medivac upgrade from the campaign |
| 03:06.22 | Vailreth | if i put my custom mods back in that folder the game will get stucking using the same one over and over again |
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| 03:06.45 | Vailreth | but if i dont i cant use them at all |
| 03:07.08 | ShadowTiger | 26 min to upload my video : / |
| 03:07.26 | Lisk | is there a way to export/import data from the data editor? |
| 03:07.31 | ShadowTiger | saeris use a search effect |
| 03:07.47 | ShadowTiger | yes you can import/export data |
| 03:08.21 | ProzaicMuze | oh oh. . . |
| 03:08.26 | Vailreth | how can you import and export data ? |
| 03:08.26 | ProzaicMuze | editor crashing when loading maps is back |
| 03:08.31 | ProzaicMuze | I thougth they fixed that with the last patch rofl |
| 03:08.35 | m50 | Saeris1, just use an effect set, and have 2 of the search+heal effect |
| 03:08.50 | Vailreth | is it your editor or your maps i wonder |
| 03:09.28 | AsaPhelps | muze, did you covery gravity in your mover tutorial? |
| 03:09.36 | AsaPhelps | cover |
| 03:09.57 | Lisk | where do you import/export data? |
| 03:10.03 | AsaPhelps | m50 it was just the data editor |
| 03:10.03 | Saeris1 | hmmm |
| 03:10.28 | Lisk | say, a friend is working on data, while you are working on triggers. and we want to merge the two |
| 03:10.31 | Saeris1 | alright i'll try that, copying the field values from the double heal ability changed things too much |
| 03:10.57 | ShadowTiger | yeah what you do is save your maps as editor components |
| 03:11.04 | ShadowTiger | if its the same name they should be combinable |
| 03:11.30 | ShadowTiger | look online for more details about editor component format |
| 03:11.44 | m50 | awesome asaphelps |
| 03:12.03 | AsaPhelps | i just need a way to destroy the missiles in amusing or cool fashion |
| 03:12.26 | ShadowTiger | lower their height to the ground and suspend their forward motion : D |
| 03:12.33 | ProzaicMuze | @Asa - Yes, the release fire mover uses gravity. |
| 03:12.57 | AsaPhelps | did you see my video prozaic, any comments on it? |
| 03:13.09 | ProzaicMuze | The one with gravity, right? |
| 03:13.32 | ProzaicMuze | oh wait, a 2nd one |
| 03:13.34 | ProzaicMuze | gimme a sec to watch |
| 03:14.14 | Lisk | Okay, I see how you export the data, then. How would you import it back in? |
| 03:14.37 | AsaPhelps | I was using a small value for gravity, didn't know how high you needed it for it to be effective |
| 03:15.13 | wOlfLinG | hmm... My morph doesn't change the actor when complete |
| 03:15.30 | ShadowTiger | you either just open the map |
| 03:15.42 | ShadowTiger | or use the import editor... but i think you just open it and editor does it for you |
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| 03:16.11 | AsaPhelps | what does gravity do to movers exactly? release fire looks like the default one |
| 03:16.11 | ProzaicMuze | Asa, just fiddle around with it until you find what you like. Either high gravity with short outro or low gravity with long outro |
| 03:16.30 | ProzaicMuze | Download the test map and try it out |
| 03:16.30 | ShadowTiger | lisk how much data have you done so far? |
| 03:16.35 | AsaPhelps | i did :/ |
| 03:16.37 | ProzaicMuze | It causes the missiles to drop before firing. |
| 03:16.51 | ProzaicMuze | Much like how a fighter jet "releases" missiles before the ignition fires |
| 03:16.51 | Dreathean | Quick question guys, when you do placement matches, is it against literally anyone (meaning you can play people already within leagues) or strictly with other people doing their own placements matches? I'm assuming both, but I am curious as to what it really is =P |
| 03:16.53 | Lisk | ah, so you can switch back and forth between SC2map and SC2components |
| 03:17.00 | ShadowTiger | make the gravity only happen when the effect ends |
| 03:17.09 | AsaPhelps | ah |
| 03:17.23 | AsaPhelps | want to help with that shadow? :) |
| 03:17.32 | Lisk | thanks ShadowTiger |
| 03:17.46 | ShadowTiger | just put it in the "final effect" or whatever of the slowing behavior |
| 03:17.58 | wOlfLinG | So how do i make a morph change the units actor to the new unit? Right now it stays as the old one :/ |
| 03:18.15 | ShadowTiger | actor events |
| 03:18.36 | AsaPhelps | what would the effect be then |
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| 03:18.50 | ShadowTiger | whatever gravity thing you have |
| 03:18.59 | AsaPhelps | but thats a mover |
| 03:19.09 | ShadowTiger | so do the effect that changes the mover |
| 03:19.11 | ShadowTiger | or whatever |
| 03:19.22 | Kakera | Hey guys, I got It's So Easy. :D I just flew my command center to the last terrazine gather point and I ignored the attack on my base. :D |
| 03:19.23 | ShadowTiger | if there is one : D |
| 03:20.04 | Kakera | I'm gonna feel hell once I do Welcome to the Jungle on Brutal... |
| 03:20.14 | AsaPhelps | what difficulty did you do hard? |
| 03:20.20 | Kakera | Hard, yeah. |
| 03:20.35 | Kakera | At first I tried to do both the achievement and the feat of strength |
| 03:20.45 | Kakera | I told myself this wouldn't work after my army got decimated. |
| 03:21.15 | Phaos | lol that mission is easy in general, just build a second command center and plonk it down next to each altar |
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| 03:22.04 | Threepwood | you know what achievement i can't figure out how to get? |
| 03:22.09 | Threepwood | zero hour's best defense thing |
| 03:22.14 | Threepwood | where you gotta kill 4 zerg hatcheries on hard? |
| 03:22.21 | Kakera | I didn't want to build a second factory. >.> |
| 03:22.23 | Threepwood | i barely even survived on hard, that wave at the last minute was ridiculous |
| 03:22.25 | Kakera | So I did it with just one, too. |
| 03:22.45 | Kakera | Well Three, best way is to make three bunkers at each entrance, post scv's to repair them, so your defense holds |
| 03:22.53 | Zanam00 | Simple question I can't seem to find the answer to... how do you access FontStyles.SC2styles to look at options for dialog text? |
| 03:23.00 | Threepwood | yeah that much i can handle kak atleast for the first bit |
| 03:23.02 | Kakera | And mass maybe 50 marines + 10-20 medics |
| 03:23.05 | Threepwood | but by the time you're secure |
| 03:23.07 | Threepwood | jesus |
| 03:23.09 | ShadowTiger | asaphelps i dont think you should do gravity with a mover... i think you should do it with a buff and actor events : D |
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| 03:23.14 | Threepwood | i don't even know if that would be enough |
| 03:23.15 | Rodrigo | Hey guyz |
| 03:23.15 | Kakera | Use those marines you mass up to defend too |
| 03:23.17 | Threepwood | but i'll give that a shot |
| 03:23.18 | Threepwood | yeah |
| 03:23.20 | Kakera | I did it with 43 |
| 03:23.24 | Threepwood | i was thinking of having them hold pos behind the bunkers |
| 03:23.25 | Rodrigo | I need more people to start my game right now |
| 03:23.26 | Kakera | And I still had a large portion left after |
| 03:23.30 | Threepwood | and then go out, attack, then pull them back |
| 03:23.40 | Rodrigo | heyy!!!! |
| 03:23.42 | Kakera | Also, don't bother with the survivors calling out to you |
| 03:23.46 | Kakera | Except the first group |
| 03:23.50 | Rodrigo | I need more people to start the game right now |
| 03:23.51 | Threepwood | yeah fuck those guys |
| 03:23.55 | Rodrigo | someone wants to join it? |
| 03:23.56 | ShadowTiger | wait which ones is welcome to the jungle again? |
| 03:24.04 | Kakera | The first group is easy to get and you get free ressources |
| 03:24.04 | ShadowTiger | oh that one |
| 03:24.16 | Threepwood | gotta love them resources |
| 03:24.21 | ShadowTiger | how many marines do you need to kill the hatcheries? |
| 03:24.22 | Rodrigo | Please, if you want to join "Debates" add me right now. Rodrigo id: 881 |
| 03:24.33 | Kakera | I made 43, with 14 medics |
| 03:24.36 | Threepwood | the hell is debates |
| 03:24.37 | Rodrigo | its sad that I have to use irc to play a custom map |
| 03:24.41 | Kakera | Probably need a bit less. |
| 03:24.43 | Rodrigo | its a custom map |
| 03:24.45 | Threepwood | the custom map system blizz has is awful |
| 03:25.00 | ShadowTiger | on brutal theres an ultralisk in one base o_0 |
| 03:25.03 | Threepwood | the only thing i fear is after creating my amazing castlefight vision, will i even be able to get it hosted properly? |
| 03:25.04 | goomba_ | @rodrigo i still lol at your debates map vid xD |
| 03:25.06 | Threepwood | hahaha |
| 03:25.11 | Threepwood | i remember that shadow |
| 03:25.16 | Threepwood | on my first hard playthrough theres one too |
| 03:25.28 | ShadowTiger | yeah its the lower left base |
| 03:25.30 | Threepwood | that was the point at which i stopped attempting to kill them so they couldn't kill me |
| 03:25.31 | Threepwood | yeah |
| 03:25.35 | Kakera | I blinked at the siege tank on the second mission on Brutal. |
| 03:25.36 | Threepwood | that was not a fun encounter at all. |
| 03:25.53 | Kakera | I know it's brutal, but it's the first time I see a siege tank so early. |
| 03:26.07 | ShadowTiger | its stupid that youhave to kill mutas, hydras, roaches, and zerglings AND spinecrawlers all with just marines and no stim |
| 03:26.08 | Rodrigo | thanks |
| 03:26.09 | Kakera | Didn't stand a chance against my 40 marines |
| 03:26.12 | Rodrigo | if you want to play add me. |
| 03:26.15 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo 881 |
| 03:26.18 | AsaPhelps | Prozaic are you still around? |
| 03:26.28 | ProzaicMuze | Yep |
| 03:26.36 | goomba_ | i would but im busy doing lots of other things |
| 03:26.38 | goomba_ | xD |
| 03:26.42 | Kakera | I found the third mission on Brutal easier than the first. |
| 03:26.46 | goomba_ | having been playing much sc at all since launch |
| 03:26.48 | Rodrigo | add me to play another day though |
| 03:27.03 | goomba_ | sure, im not on atm you can add me if you want goomba 275 |
| 03:27.04 | Threepwood | i seem to have lost the desire to play custom maps, and gained some horrifying fervor to create my ultimate castlefight |
| 03:27.09 | Rodrigo | ok |
| 03:27.23 | Rodrigo | added |
| 03:27.28 | Threepwood | i played the current attempt at it on bnet, 'nexus wars', man that map is an awful bastardization, made me sad. |
| 03:27.38 | AsaPhelps | I set the gravity to 1000 so the missile shot goes to the ground almost instantly, what determines the blend time? |
| 03:28.04 | Kakera | I haven't played a lot of custom maps, mainly because I try to stay away from all those tower defenses... what's a castlefight? |
| 03:28.05 | ShadowTiger | the amount of gravity? |
| 03:28.48 | AsaPhelps | well it switches to the next mover once it reaches a certain gravity |
| 03:29.09 | Dreathean | Guys has anyone gotten their mics and stuff to work w/ b.net???? |
| 03:29.17 | AsaPhelps | yes i've heard people speak |
| 03:29.19 | ShadowTiger | ventrillo |
| 03:29.44 | Rodrigo | someone wants to play "Debates" right now? |
| 03:29.44 | Dreathean | lol i'd rather not have to use vent but suppose we'll have to sometime |
| 03:29.48 | ProzaicMuze | @Asa - the outra is blend |
| 03:29.49 | Rodrigo | I need people to join my custom map |
| 03:29.51 | ProzaicMuze | outro* |
| 03:29.53 | wOlfLinG | what server rodrigo? |
| 03:29.58 | Rodrigo | US |
| 03:30.02 | wOlfLinG | :( |
| 03:30.03 | ProzaicMuze | cut the gravity in half and double the outro range |
| 03:30.04 | ShadowTiger | if you need people to join your map call it "dota" |
| 03:30.06 | ShadowTiger | : P |
| 03:30.08 | wOlfLinG | I'm on EU, sorry |
| 03:30.08 | Rodrigo | :/ |
| 03:30.17 | wOlfLinG | looks a great map though |
| 03:30.21 | Rodrigo | :/ |
| 03:30.32 | Rodrigo | I have not enough people to play :( |
| 03:30.44 | ShadowTiger | construct additional players |
| 03:31.06 | Threepwood | kak, a castlefight is a map where your units fight automatically |
| 03:31.23 | Threepwood | and generally the goal is to increase income to build more units, building the right counters, using spells optimally etc. |
| 03:31.28 | ShadowTiger | yeah you just press start and whoever bet on the strongest castle wins |
| 03:31.30 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 03:31.31 | Threepwood | the one on warcraft 3 is the best iteration |
| 03:31.44 | Threepwood | it isn't balanced and lacks adaptability but it's as close as i've ever seen |
| 03:31.59 | Threepwood | the one in my head is infinitely better, and the sc2 editor can actually bring it to life, so i'm spending most of my time on it |
| 03:32.01 | ShadowTiger | is it going to be mirror or different races |
| 03:32.07 | Mindful | Fromethius |
| 03:32.10 | AsaPhelps | it still seems to go to the gravity instantly |
| 03:32.10 | Mindful | you afk? |
| 03:32.16 | Threepwood | right now i only have 4 races, there just isn't enough variety for a 5th |
| 03:32.20 | Fromethius | nope |
| 03:32.22 | Fromethius | just mapping |
| 03:32.28 | ShadowTiger | 4 races? terran variant? |
| 03:32.46 | Threepwood | terran with a lot of upgrades and adaptability, psionic which is the protoss minus the void guys |
| 03:32.53 | Threepwood | the zerg swarm which is self explanatory and then the corrupted |
| 03:33.05 | ProzaicMuze | @Asa - then keep reducing the gravity. If you noticed, I had 50-100 for my gravity |
| 03:33.10 | Threepwood | which are basically infested terrans, abominations, hybrids, dark templar etc. |
| 03:33.12 | ProzaicMuze | You have 500 now, right? |
| 03:33.30 | wOlfLinG | Three: Add Hybrids |
| 03:33.35 | Rodrigo | if someone wants to play add me. Rodrigo 881. Sorry for saying this again |
| 03:33.41 | wOlfLinG | Powerful, expensive units :) |
| 03:33.44 | Threepwood | there are a few units i could squeeze in there but it isn't enough for 5 races, i want variety throughout the game every time instead of the same build orders |
| 03:33.47 | Threepwood | yeah wolf i got those in corrupted |
| 03:33.50 | Threepwood | they're the heavy hitters |
| 03:33.51 | wOlfLinG | ok |
| 03:33.56 | AsaPhelps | well when I set it to 1000 it goes to the ground |
| 03:33.58 | wOlfLinG | love the hybrids xD |
| 03:34.06 | Threepwood | its supplemented with stalkers, DT's, that prisoner zealot, a few of the zerg things |
| 03:34.14 | AsaPhelps | but even when I change the outro is still seems to drop instantly instead of slowly |
| 03:34.18 | Threepwood | and some marines i've deemed 'corrupt', like marauders and firebats heh |
| 03:34.38 | ProzaicMuze | @Asa - because you have a speed 10x that of what I used in my example rofl |
| 03:34.41 | Threepwood | i expect when the zerg expansion hits we'll get a lot more zerg-specific campaign units and probably a few more toss and terrans too |
| 03:34.44 | ProzaicMuze | Gravity is the speed |
| 03:34.48 | Vailreth | i am pretty sure we will be seeing the Xel'Naga as a race by the thrid expansions |
| 03:34.52 | wOlfLinG | Hmm... I think i'll add hybrids to my map :D |
| 03:34.54 | Threepwood | oh i'd bet on it |
| 03:34.57 | ProzaicMuze | So you have it going a speed of 1000 into the ground. It's not surprising it gets there instantly ;) |
| 03:34.57 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 03:35.03 | ProzaicMuze | Even with blend |
| 03:35.10 | ProzaicMuze | Set it to 10-50 and that will fix the problem |
| 03:35.24 | AsaPhelps | well when I have say 100, it'll go down like .5 a unit then ignite instead of continuin to go down |
| 03:35.40 | Kakera | I really don't want to see the Xel'Naga as a race by the third expansion. |
| 03:35.48 | Kakera | That's the lore-myself speaking. |
| 03:35.52 | Threepwood | i dont think a playable race kak |
| 03:35.59 | Threepwood | more likely a bunch of xel'naga units in the campaign |
| 03:36.00 | Kakera | Even as a non-playable race. |
| 03:36.00 | ProzaicMuze | Then that means you need a longer outro |
| 03:36.08 | wOlfLinG | LotV would be the one to add a 4th race |
| 03:36.13 | ProzaicMuze | There isn't a "blend" feature for movers |
| 03:36.21 | Threepwood | nah LotV is the protoss one |
| 03:36.26 | ProzaicMuze | Outro mimics it, but what it really means is how long the motion phase lasts |
| 03:36.27 | Kakera | Xel'Naga are a peaceful race |
| 03:36.29 | Threepwood | in which i expect a good chunk of protoss units and a SWEET campaign |
| 03:36.29 | Technomancer | ugh |
| 03:36.45 | ProzaicMuze | So take the 100 and keep increasing the outro until it hits the ground before igniting |
| 03:36.46 | AsaPhelps | what about adding physics to when it hits the ground proziac, can that be done in movers? like when it reaches the ground it bounces |
| 03:37.02 | Kakera | I am so looking forward to the Heart of the Swarm campaign, though. |
| 03:37.03 | m4ng3 | anyone wanna make a starship trooper like terrain for me? |
| 03:37.10 | Kakera | A campaign with a levelable hero. |
| 03:37.14 | Threepwood | i don't understand the swarm campaign |
| 03:37.28 | Kakera | Basically you got Kerrigan and you gotta get her levels up. |
| 03:37.29 | Threepwood | spoilers dictate that i can't continue, but i don't see how it would work. |
| 03:37.30 | wOlfLinG | Thing about legacy is that it will finish the campaign :/ |
| 03:37.35 | Kakera | That's what I read. |
| 03:37.46 | Threepwood | i'm fine with that kak but that doesn't fit with WoL's ending |
| 03:38.07 | Kakera | I'm sure it will fit when the time comes. |
| 03:38.15 | m50 | yeah, after seeing that ending, i became REALLY confused |
| 03:38.18 | Threepwood | probably, blizz has a way of writing things with brute force |
| 03:38.27 | ShadowTiger | they can always patch the terran campaign if the story doesn't make sense |
| 03:38.28 | Threepwood | it might be, m50, that she's sent back in |
| 03:38.30 | Kakera | Or maybe a special mini-campaign will be released, much like WoW pre-events leading to expansions. |
| 03:38.31 | ShadowTiger | rofl |
| 03:38.34 | Technomancer | I tried puttin in the actor creation - set tint for the archon attack |
| 03:38.40 | m50 | yeah, was just about to say that threepwood |
| 03:38.42 | AsaPhelps | pre-starcraft 2 |
| 03:38.43 | Technomancer | now the attack dont show up |
| 03:38.46 | AsaPhelps | they could call it... starcraft |
| 03:38.51 | Threepwood | like some kind of anti-overmind m |
| 03:39.03 | Threepwood | i remember back in brood wars, she basically manipulated everyone to help her kill off the competition |
| 03:39.16 | AsaPhelps | did you change the actor creation impact event |
| 03:39.19 | Threepwood | i could see her allying with raynor and using some of the swarm against the rest, or preventing something from taking control |
| 03:39.20 | AsaPhelps | instead of making a new one |
| 03:39.23 | Kakera | Yup. RIP Fenix, Duke |
| 03:39.25 | Kakera | Though Fenix might come back again |
| 03:39.27 | ShadowTiger | dide you replace the "create" actor event technomancer? |
| 03:39.31 | AsaPhelps | was fenix a dragoon |
| 03:39.40 | Kakera | He was a zealot, then a dragoon |
| 03:39.41 | Threepwood | at one point, yes. |
| 03:39.46 | Kakera | And then a puddle of mechanical parts |
| 03:39.58 | ShadowTiger | a delicious puddle |
| 03:40.00 | m50 | what i think, is that zeratul may come back to raynor at the beginning, and tell him that the only way to save the terran is to turn her back into a zerg, so you have to... |
| 03:40.15 | ProzaicMuze | @Asa - I'm actually not entirely sure about physics. Ihaven't looked into that much. |
| 03:40.19 | Threepwood | unlikely m50 |
| 03:40.20 | wOlfLinG | Also, WoLs campaign was the sorta thing you get from an entire game |
| 03:40.24 | Threepwood | undoing everything in wol would be silly |
| 03:40.27 | AsaPhelps | okay prozaic I got it working close enough |
| 03:40.30 | AsaPhelps | thank you for your help |
| 03:40.32 | ShadowTiger | thansk for spoiling it |
| 03:40.32 | Kakera | Naw, Zeratul is gonna become the prophet of Starcraft. |
| 03:40.33 | ProzaicMuze | np :) |
| 03:40.35 | AsaPhelps | now to just figure a way to change movers |
| 03:40.36 | ShadowTiger | <_< |
| 03:40.39 | AsaPhelps | and kill the missiles |
| 03:40.39 | m50 | true true... |
| 03:40.42 | m50 | o dimmp |
| 03:40.53 | Threepwood | also, i can not wait for the fight with mengsk |
| 03:40.54 | wOlfLinG | I reckon kerrigans gonna become zerg again in the expansion |
| 03:40.59 | Threepwood | oh man it is going to be so awesome to see him get his ass kicked |
| 03:41.00 | AsaPhelps | is there a way to make a missile die before it reaches a target without it being a timed unit? |
| 03:41.03 | wOlfLinG | Cause she still has the zergy hair |
| 03:41.07 | ShadowTiger | stop with the spoilers >_> |
| 03:41.08 | Threepwood | wolf i expect, instead, she'll be able to choose |
| 03:41.11 | Kakera | I'm pretty sure we'll get to deal with Mengsk in the Zerg campaign |
| 03:41.18 | Threepwood | i hope so |
| 03:41.22 | ShadowTiger | spoilers are bad <_< |
| 03:41.24 | Threepwood | possibly with a kerrigan/raynor team |
| 03:41.26 | Threepwood | go beat the campaign man! |
| 03:41.34 | AsaPhelps | I don't understand how kerrigan was raynor's father if she's younger |
| 03:41.36 | Threepwood | soon as i got the game, the first thing i did was play it for 12 hours |
| 03:41.38 | m50 | should already beaten it by now |
| 03:41.38 | Kakera | In the Protoss campaign you'll be going around and rallying tribes |
| 03:41.42 | ShadowTiger | spoilers should not be flooding the chat >_> |
| 03:41.43 | Threepwood | then pass out from exhaustion, wake up, and beat it |
| 03:41.44 | m50 | same threepwood |
| 03:41.47 | ShadowTiger | sorry if i have to work during the week |
| 03:41.48 | wOlfLinG | Part of the zerg campaign will be a cerebrate trying to recapture kerrigan, and/or kill raynor |
| 03:41.53 | Kakera | Snape kills Kerrigan page 652 |
| 03:41.59 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 03:42.04 | rrowland | I'd be pretty pissed if I hadn't beaten the campaign already and you came in here giving shit away |
| 03:42.22 | AsaPhelps | rrow do you know much about movers |
| 03:42.28 | wOlfLinG | S-S-S-SPOILERSSSSSSSSSSS |
| 03:42.28 | AsaPhelps | i mean, physics |
| 03:42.40 | mahashiro | hey everyone, does anyone know how to get rally points back to how they used to be? |
| 03:42.44 | mahashiro | like attack move |
| 03:42.46 | mahashiro | instead of just move |
| 03:42.50 | Rodrigo | hey everyone |
| 03:42.55 | Rodrigo | I HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO START DEBATES |
| 03:42.58 | Rodrigo | last call |
| 03:43.00 | Rodrigo | if you want to join |
| 03:43.00 | Threepwood | i don't think it can be done in melee maha |
| 03:43.02 | Rodrigo | add me now |
| 03:43.06 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo 881 |
| 03:43.09 | wOlfLinG | Could you move it to the EU servers? ^^ |
| 03:43.12 | mahashiro | yea not in melee |
| 03:43.13 | Threepwood | you could do it easily enough with a trigger though |
| 03:43.13 | mahashiro | custom map |
| 03:43.21 | Rodrigo | I would love it, lol, but i cant access EU |
| 03:43.26 | Threepwood | just set a point to be manipulated by each building that's created |
| 03:43.26 | wOlfLinG | :( |
| 03:43.30 | wOlfLinG | *sadface* |
| 03:43.33 | Rodrigo | yeah |
| 03:43.37 | Threepwood | then set the trigger to order the last created unit to move to the rally point associated with the building |
| 03:43.44 | Threepwood | would be sufficient. |
| 03:43.49 | mahashiro | ok that makes sense |
| 03:43.55 | Rodrigo | we have 6 people already |
| 03:43.58 | Rodrigo | starting game with 8 |
| 03:43.59 | Rodrigo | add me |
| 03:44.01 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo 881 |
| 03:44.05 | Rodrigo | see ya |
| 03:44.09 | mahashiro | I don't like to use triggers if I can help it though |
| 03:44.13 | mahashiro | but I'll use this for now |
| 03:44.13 | ShadowTiger | if your map cant be played with less than 8 people that sucks |
| 03:44.13 | Threepwood | neither do i. |
| 03:44.33 | mahashiro | oh btw |
| 03:44.40 | mahashiro | does anyone else get a bug w/ nydus unloads |
| 03:44.46 | mahashiro | if there's no rally point? |
| 03:44.53 | mahashiro | it used to just put them around the worm |
| 03:45.03 | mahashiro | but now they float around |
| 03:45.10 | mahashiro | in scrunched up models |
| 03:45.25 | mahashiro | looks sort of weird, idk if it's a bug |
| 03:45.30 | Threepwood | i'm out fellas, gotta figure out my income system and let my brain recover from all this creation |
| 03:45.39 | Threepwood | good talkin to ya, back sometime durin the week. |
| 03:46.08 | AsaPhelps | so i played a map where they changed the mineral and vespene icons, now my maps all seem to have the same icons |
| 03:46.11 | wOlfLinG | hmm... 5 player map, 4v1, one guy is Xel'naga / hybrids, other team gets heros and campaign stuff ^^ |
| 03:46.22 | mahashiro | cya |
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| 03:49.44 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/science-and-industry/. Science and Industry. SCMapper (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
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| 03:50.31 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/line-tower-wars-korhal/. Line Tower Wars Korhal. Fropper (Manager/Author), Nashoa (Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 03:50.34 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/planetary-boss-minis-zladicar-de/. Planetary Boss Minis - Zladicar the Deceiver (3 Player Online). Bounty_98 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 03:51.14 | AsaPhelps | Prozaic, one more question if you're still around |
| 03:51.52 | ProzaicMuze | shoot |
| 03:52.00 | ProzaicMuze | And I'll be around for a while |
| 03:52.02 | ProzaicMuze | I'm makin' tutorials |
| 03:52.11 | AsaPhelps | What determines the timeout of the missile, I changed it to 1 but it takes 5 seconds for it to disappear |
| 03:52.31 | ProzaicMuze | Did you do this in the mover itself? |
| 03:52.45 | LordAbyss | hey proz, whats your name/id |
| 03:52.54 | AsaPhelps | yes |
| 03:52.54 | ProzaicMuze | ProzaicMuze.749 |
| 03:52.56 | ProzaicMuze | same as before |
| 03:53.05 | ProzaicMuze | mmk, and how long is your outro? |
| 03:53.47 | AsaPhelps | 100 |
| 03:53.59 | ProzaicMuze | lol hrm |
| 03:54.23 | ProzaicMuze | Well, the timeout is typicalyl exactly the time you set |
| 03:54.33 | LordAbyss | btw, i am Tyrannical.801 |
| 03:54.39 | ProzaicMuze | however with an outro that long, perhaps it's adding a few seconds of overhang? |
| 03:54.45 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 03:54.55 | ProzaicMuze | What you could do is make a behavior for the missiles |
| 03:54.57 | AsaPhelps | well its weird that its exactly 5 seconds as far as I can tell |
| 03:55.01 | ProzaicMuze | and have it apply when the gravity effect happens |
| 03:55.08 | ProzaicMuze | then that will allow you to set an exact time before they die |
| 03:55.09 | AsaPhelps | yeah probably easier |
| 03:55.21 | AsaPhelps | but will that still kill the missiles? |
| 03:55.36 | wOlfLinG | So, what should i add for my OP Xel'Naga race? :) |
| 03:55.44 | AsaPhelps | auto attack nukes |
| 03:55.56 | AsaPhelps | aoe passive mind control |
| 03:56.14 | AsaPhelps | 12 health |
| 03:56.20 | wOlfLinG | nice ones |
| 03:56.30 | AsaPhelps | oh i know why proziac |
| 03:56.33 | AsaPhelps | i have the flight time of 5 |
| 03:56.46 | wOlfLinG | An ability that provives vision around any unit on the field :D |
| 03:57.01 | ProzaicMuze | ahhh |
| 03:57.03 | ProzaicMuze | that would do it ;) |
| 03:57.15 | ProzaicMuze | And yes,m that will kill the missiles |
| 03:57.18 | ProzaicMuze | missiles are units |
| 03:57.23 | ProzaicMuze | so if the unit dies, the missiles dies too |
| 03:57.45 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
| 03:57.49 | AsaPhelps | well I changed it still didn't work |
| 03:59.05 | AsaPhelps | it seems to work when it switches movers |
| 03:59.16 | AsaPhelps | hmm |
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| 03:59.57 | AsaPhelps | setting a higher gravity seems to work but it drops less |
| 04:00.01 | Ashamed | hey i can't create a new unit?? For some reason the new units name is not showing up for my actor?? |
| 04:00.10 | P_R_Smelltoid | what |
| 04:00.12 | P_R_Smelltoid | what does that mean |
| 04:00.23 | P_R_Smelltoid | like the token? |
| 04:00.34 | P_R_Smelltoid | you can't browse for it in the Token field of the actor? |
| 04:01.33 | Ashamed | no |
| 04:01.35 | Ashamed | its not showing up |
| 04:01.38 | ShadowTiger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhUvMWgsfhw check out what i'm working on |
| 04:01.45 | Ashamed | i have tried like 4 times now |
| 04:02.43 | AsaPhelps | how do you switch weapons |
| 04:03.00 | AsaPhelps | did you get powerups I wasn't watching |
| 04:04.42 | Mindful | how do you set games to auto start when the lobby is full? |
| 04:04.52 | AsaPhelps | I thought bnet did that |
| 04:05.13 | Mindful | :O idk |
| 04:05.15 | Mindful | it doesn't for my map |
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| 04:06.27 | Mindful | anyone know if it's something specific? |
| 04:06.29 | ProzaicMuze | Shadow, I can help you get those custom weapons to fire from the unit's weapon ports rather than inside the shiplol |
| 04:07.08 | Ashamed | hey is creating a building differnt then a unit? |
| 04:07.18 | ShadowTiger | i put in trigers to switch weapons |
| 04:07.28 | Ashamed | because the token ID is not populating with my new building i created |
| 04:07.38 | AsaPhelps | so anyone know how to change a unit's mover, is morphing the way to go? |
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| 04:13.04 | Vailreth | ProzaicMuze do you know if movers have any control over where the missle fires from? |
| 04:13.19 | ProzaicMuze | no |
| 04:13.34 | ProzaicMuze | Movers just control how it travels to its target |
| 04:13.59 | ProzaicMuze | The Effect - Launch Missile, Missile Actor and Missile Attack Actor controls origin and impact points |
| 04:14.07 | Vailreth | i thought so i just cant understand why my acid attack doesnt fire from the units weapons. |
| 04:14.39 | ProzaicMuze | Missiles are touchy lol |
| 04:14.44 | AsaPhelps | hmm how do you lower a unit's height in the data editor, modifcation doesn't allow negative height it seems |
| 04:17.18 | ProzaicMuze | On the unit itself |
| 04:17.32 | AsaPhelps | oh i mean from a behavior |
| 04:18.04 | ProzaicMuze | Ah |
| 04:18.15 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, I haven't figured out how to apply negative height changes either |
| 04:18.29 | AsaPhelps | i did it once I think that was in actor events though |
| 04:18.30 | ProzaicMuze | gimme a sec |
| 04:18.49 | AsaPhelps | and also does supress movement prevent height modification? |
| 04:19.14 | ProzaicMuze | Where are you doing this? |
| 04:19.18 | Vailreth | how are you trying to change the height field? |
| 04:19.26 | ProzaicMuze | (The Suppress part) |
| 04:19.54 | AsaPhelps | well I have it so the missiles stop in air, I want them to drop to the ground when the effect ends until I can figure out a good way to change its mover |
| 04:20.01 | AsaPhelps | so I have supress movement and change height |
| 04:20.11 | AsaPhelps | but it seems supress movement supresses height change |
| 04:21.12 | Mindful | hmmm |
| 04:21.25 | Mindful | you sure battle.net is supposed to auto-start the lobby? |
| 04:21.39 | AsaPhelps | and I can't seem to change the missile speed even with modify movement enabled |
| 04:24.21 | AsaPhelps | *strokes his invisible beard* |
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| 04:24.34 | Rodrigo | WE JUST PLAYED "DEBATES" RIGHT KNOW |
| 04:24.41 | Rodrigo | the game was AWESOME |
| 04:24.42 | Rodrigo | everyone enjoyed |
| 04:24.47 | Rodrigo | we are starting a new one |
| 04:24.51 | Rodrigo | this one goes to youtube |
| 04:24.55 | wOlfLinG | EU plsplspls? |
| 04:24.56 | Rodrigo | theres 5 people in the lobby already |
| 04:25.00 | Rodrigo | please, join us. US |
| 04:25.03 | Rodrigo | sorry |
| 04:25.06 | wOlfLinG | I WANTZ TA PLAY! ;_; |
| 04:25.07 | Rodrigo | add me right now |
| 04:25.08 | Kakera | Insane AI can actually defend against a cannon rush, impressive. |
| 04:25.10 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo 881 |
| 04:25.15 | Rodrigo | the game was AWESOME!! |
| 04:25.38 | Rodrigo | the random thought was |
| 04:25.46 | Rodrigo | "Asians are the best starcraft players" |
| 04:25.50 | Rodrigo | the debate was epic |
| 04:25.58 | wOlfLinG | lol, how can you ague against that? xD |
| 04:26.00 | AsaPhelps | how could you debate against that |
| 04:26.01 | Rodrigo | i should have recorded |
| 04:26.10 | Rodrigo | anyway |
| 04:26.12 | Rodrigo | join this time |
| 04:26.16 | Rodrigo | add me now Rodrigo 881 |
| 04:26.21 | Rodrigo | we are about to start another match |
| 04:26.44 | wOlfLinG | lol. 1 million minerals and climbing xD |
| 04:28.45 | mahashiro | hey is the person who wanted to know about changing icons still here? |
| 04:29.10 | mahashiro | well I figured it out |
| 04:29.16 | mahashiro | message and I'll teach |
| 04:29.45 | Vailreth | i do not get this what is overriding my missle lauch point |
| 04:31.08 | wOlfLinG | So... Much... Money... OPness! |
| 04:32.15 | Rodrigo | HEY |
| 04:32.19 | Rodrigo | "DEBATES" one player left!! |
| 04:32.21 | Rodrigo | US SERVER |
| 04:32.23 | Rodrigo | add me now |
| 04:32.25 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo 881 |
| 04:32.27 | Rodrigo | its the last call |
| 04:33.56 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo 881 |
| 04:33.58 | Rodrigo | buy |
| 04:33.59 | Rodrigo | bye |
| 04:34.01 | Rodrigo | ;) |
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| 04:36.10 | ProzaicMuze | @Asa - The only way to change a missile's speed is with its mover. |
| 04:37.29 | wOlfLinG | lol, i had 3 million minerals just then xD |
| 04:39.54 | Vailreth | grah Driving me crazy... |
| 04:42.01 | Mindful | so, someone is camping in an empty lobby for my game and tanking my popularity |
| 04:42.07 | Mindful | the game won't auto-start, god only knows why |
| 04:42.10 | Mindful | is there anything i can do about this? |
| 04:42.46 | Mindful | and/or is there a setting to make my map auto-start in the future? |
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| 04:44.47 | TheLaughingMan | http://us.akinator.com/ Think of a character from any game/comic book/tv show/movie and play |
| 04:46.14 | TheLaughingMan | Damn it, I can't beat it |
| 04:47.39 | TheLaughingMan | Hmm, think I beat it have to try again |
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| 04:50.14 | TheLaughingMan | nvm I must of answered wrong |
| 04:50.22 | `MindWorX | lol |
| 04:50.36 | `MindWorX | You have to remember TLM, that a bot like that learns from every defeat |
| 04:50.39 | TheLaughingMan | I don't know much about Sarah Kerrigon |
| 04:50.48 | TheLaughingMan | Hmm |
| 04:50.50 | `MindWorX | You might've beaten it when it was new |
| 04:50.58 | `MindWorX | But not when it has so much information to work from |
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| 04:54.06 | `MindWorX | Hah, i defeated it |
| 04:54.31 | TheLaughingMan | ? |
| 04:54.31 | `MindWorX | Unless it too made some wrong answers |
| 04:54.37 | Fromethius | lol thelaughingman that's pretty funny |
| 04:54.51 | Fromethius | i used TETSUOOOOOOOOO and it guessed it |
| 04:54.53 | Mindful | this is getting a little bit out of hand |
| 04:54.57 | Fromethius | fancy fancy |
| 04:54.59 | Mindful | does anyone have any idea how to make your game auto-start? |
| 04:55.09 | Fromethius | yours doesn't? |
| 04:55.10 | Fromethius | lucky |
| 04:55.13 | Mindful | unlucky |
| 04:55.16 | Fromethius | that 30 second countdown is so annoying |
| 04:55.20 | Mindful | someone is abusing the fact that it doesn't to tank my popularity |
| 04:55.23 | Fromethius | if your map doesn't have that keep it like that |
| 04:55.24 | ShadowTiger | omg thelaughingman that thing is awesome |
| 04:55.26 | Mindful | by sitting afk in an empty lobby |
| 04:55.42 | Fromethius | =O |
| 04:55.47 | Fromethius | that's not very nice of him |
| 04:56.09 | Fromethius | have you tried asking him nicely |
| 04:57.45 | m4ng3 | http://en.akinator.com/ do > http://tinyurl.com/38y8eog |
| 04:58.27 | Technomancer | Hey From, I know im sucha bothering spaz.. I tried what you suggested, in the actors that the weapon reference... unfortunately instead of changing the tint, it made the visual of the archon blast disappear ;_; |
| 04:58.35 | Technomancer | can I send the map? |
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| 04:58.45 | ShadowTiger | yeah i beat it too |
| 04:59.28 | Fromethius | sure |
| 04:59.30 | Fromethius | and say fromethius |
| 04:59.36 | Fromethius | it makes my client go BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP |
| 04:59.43 | Technomancer | yes sir ^_^ you got it |
| 05:00.06 | Fromethius | please, sir is my dad's name! err.. |
| 05:00.10 | goomba_ | lol the debates map is actually pretty entertaining |
| 05:00.14 | Technomancer | lol |
| 05:00.15 | Fromethius | what is it? |
| 05:00.21 | goomba_ | it puts up a random thought |
| 05:00.23 | goomba_ | totally random |
| 05:00.29 | goomba_ | "milk is good to drink in casinos" |
| 05:00.36 | goomba_ | and 2 players choose to defend the thought or argue against it |
| 05:00.44 | goomba_ | everyone else votes who had a better argument |
| 05:00.45 | Fromethius | noun is adjective to verb in noun(plural) |
| 05:00.46 | Technomancer | wish I could say the same, my dad's a total fucking loser |
| 05:00.58 | Fromethius | lol |
| 05:01.02 | goomba_ | i mean its not that random |
| 05:01.03 | Fromethius | that does sound pretty fun actually |
| 05:01.06 | goomba_ | like one was |
| 05:01.14 | Technomancer | Alright Fromethius http://www.2shared.com/file/ZlsZ2gUT/Starlighter2b.html |
| 05:01.15 | goomba_ | windows is a total rip off of mac |
| 05:01.17 | goomba_ | or something like that |
| 05:01.25 | Technomancer | at the end of my fucking rope on this one |
| 05:01.58 | *** join/#sc2mapster Penguinator36 (473f74fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.63.116.254) |
| 05:02.03 | Fromethius | it gets better |
| 05:02.07 | Penguinator36 | hello |
| 05:02.16 | Fromethius | eventually everything just clicks and data editing becomes a bore |
| 05:02.30 | Fromethius | so you're watching youtube videos on another monitor while data editing... yeup |
| 05:02.38 | Fromethius | alright looking at it now |
| 05:02.50 | goomba_ | its not a bore if youre working on an epic campaign |
| 05:02.53 | goomba_ | just saying |
| 05:02.54 | Technomancer | ok |
| 05:02.57 | Fromethius | heh |
| 05:03.14 | Fromethius | ok |
| 05:03.18 | Fromethius | so what are you trying to do |
| 05:03.21 | Fromethius | and what is it doing instead |
| 05:04.00 | Mindful | was alt tabbed |
| 05:04.04 | Mindful | he's been at it for close to 2 hours |
| 05:04.16 | Mindful | managed to get the game mostly full now, but i'd like to figure out how to prevent this in the future |
| 05:04.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rodrigo (cf06e61b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.6.230.27) |
| 05:04.27 | Rodrigo | WE JUST HAD ANOTHER "DEBATES" epic game right now |
| 05:04.40 | Rodrigo | an awesome debate about cassinos being the best place to drink milk |
| 05:04.45 | goomba_ | xD |
| 05:04.50 | Rodrigo | we are playing another one right now |
| 05:04.54 | Rodrigo | 2 players left |
| 05:05.00 | Rodrigo | please join us, now |
| 05:05.01 | Fromethius | technomancer? |
| 05:05.03 | Rodrigo | add me right now |
| 05:05.05 | Technomancer | yes |
| 05:05.05 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 05:05.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster Froznic (Froznic@174-126-93-197.cpe.cableone.net) |
| 05:05.09 | Fromethius | respond? |
| 05:05.15 | Technomancer | im here |
| 05:05.16 | ekcolnvkol | ZA WARUDO |
| 05:05.19 | Rodrigo | if you want to join this match, add me right now |
| 05:05.21 | Fromethius | yeah i asked 2 questions |
| 05:05.21 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 05:05.25 | Rodrigo | starting in 5 minutes |
| 05:05.25 | Technomancer | ohhh |
| 05:05.31 | goomba_ | you guys should join :P |
| 05:05.33 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo 881. see you there |
| 05:05.43 | Fromethius | i'll join |
| 05:05.45 | Technomancer | what im trying to do is change the tint, if you check the waepon I added to the Starlighter and the actors it references, you'll see the set tint |
| 05:05.47 | Rodrigo | add me |
| 05:05.49 | ekcolnovkol | goomba, where's that custom model of jesus i asked for |
| 05:05.49 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo 881 |
| 05:05.53 | Rodrigo | im waiting you |
| 05:05.58 | Rodrigo | goomba was in the game |
| 05:05.59 | goomba_ | o :< |
| 05:06.03 | ekcolnovkol | must add black jesus hero |
| 05:06.05 | Technomancer | but the set tint change only makes it disappear |
| 05:06.07 | *** part/#sc2mapster TheLaughingMan (~TheLaughi@99-71-64-200.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:06.08 | Rodrigo | by the way, nice debate goomba |
| 05:06.14 | goomba_ | im a champion |
| 05:06.26 | goomba_ | apparently i need to model black jesus after this game though |
| 05:06.28 | ekcolnovkol | did you guys just debate? |
| 05:06.33 | Froznic | Hey, is there a model viewer, like an mpq viewer like there was for other blizzard games? |
| 05:06.37 | goomba_ | yea xD |
| 05:06.44 | ekcolnovkol | like |
| 05:06.45 | ekcolnovkol | as in |
| 05:06.47 | ekcolnovkol | really debate |
| 05:06.47 | ekcolnovkol | or |
| 05:06.49 | goomba_ | @froznic theres mpq browsers |
| 05:06.50 | ekcolnovkol | that sc2 map |
| 05:06.52 | ekcolnovkol | debats?> |
| 05:06.54 | goomba_ | debates |
| 05:06.57 | Rodrigo | yes |
| 05:06.58 | goomba_ | thats rodrigos map |
| 05:06.59 | goomba_ | xD |
| 05:07.01 | Rodrigo | join us |
| 05:07.03 | Rodrigo | add me right now |
| 05:07.04 | ekcolnovkol | invite me, i wanna try it too |
| 05:07.05 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo 882 |
| 05:07.06 | goomba_ | its fun try it :P |
| 05:07.08 | Rodrigo | we are in the host |
| 05:07.11 | Rodrigo | waiting for players |
| 05:07.11 | Froznic | got room for 1 more? |
| 05:07.14 | goomba_ | 881 |
| 05:07.15 | Rodrigo | yes |
| 05:07.18 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo 881 |
| 05:07.26 | ekcolnovkol | invite me |
| 05:07.26 | Fromethius | i added you |
| 05:07.28 | ekcolnovkol | nikka |
| 05:07.32 | Froznic | k starting up the game |
| 05:07.35 | Rodrigo | nikka what |
| 05:07.40 | Rodrigo | give me your identifier |
| 05:07.45 | ekcolnovkol | 941 |
| 05:07.48 | Rodrigo | ok |
| 05:07.48 | `MindWorX | "Event: Unit is highlighted by player", that happens when you hover your mouse over a unit? |
| 05:08.07 | Fromethius | fromethius 477 |
| 05:08.27 | Rodrigo | couldnt add you |
| 05:08.33 | Rodrigo | nikka 941 does not work |
| 05:08.34 | Rodrigo | add me |
| 05:08.36 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 05:08.49 | Fromethius | i added you |
| 05:09.04 | ekcolnovkol | by the way goomba |
| 05:09.05 | Fromethius | now add me: fromethius 477 |
| 05:09.09 | goomba_ | herro |
| 05:09.09 | ekcolnovkol | if you make a rick astley head |
| 05:09.15 | ekcolnovkol | 100% i will add it into the game |
| 05:09.17 | goomba_ | :P |
| 05:09.22 | ekcolnovkol | it will be a cheat code |
| 05:09.27 | ekcolnovkol | that puts his head on all creeps |
| 05:09.37 | goomba_ | i could try |
| 05:09.44 | goomba_ | well |
| 05:09.44 | ekcolnovkol | and when the game ends, his song is played |
| 05:09.46 | goomba_ | i could do it |
| 05:09.49 | goomba_ | and it would take some time |
| 05:09.51 | goomba_ | but* |
| 05:09.51 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 05:10.01 | ekcolnovkol | if ANYONE makes me a Rick Astley head |
| 05:10.02 | ekcolnovkol | i will use it |
| 05:10.12 | ekcolnovkol | 999% |
| 05:10.18 | ekcolnovkol | rodrigo have you invited yet |
| 05:10.31 | Fromethius | ok technomancer |
| 05:10.38 | ekcolnovkol | i will crush you like grape |
| 05:10.41 | Rodrigo | ok full house |
| 05:10.43 | Fromethius | first of all, just use ActorCreation.*.* |
| 05:10.43 | ekcolnovkol | what |
| 05:10.46 | ekcolnovkol | you didn't invite me |
| 05:10.48 | ekcolnovkol | >:(((( |
| 05:10.49 | Rodrigo | give me your id |
| 05:10.51 | ekcolnovkol | weeps |
| 05:10.51 | Rodrigo | name and id |
| 05:10.56 | ekcolnovkol | <- name |
| 05:10.57 | Vailreth | * grabs the editor by the neck and punches it in the face * WHY DAMN YOU |
| 05:10.57 | goomba_ | kick dirty devious out lol |
| 05:11.01 | ekcolnovkol | and i told you my id |
| 05:11.02 | goomba_ | 741 doesnt work |
| 05:11.04 | goomba_ | ekco |
| 05:11.06 | ekcolnovkol | 941 |
| 05:11.07 | ekcolnovkol | l2read |
| 05:11.08 | goomba_ | 941 |
| 05:11.09 | goomba_ | * |
| 05:11.10 | goomba_ | doesnt work |
| 05:11.11 | ekcolnovkol | wat |
| 05:11.20 | ekcolnovkol | 914 |
| 05:11.21 | ekcolnovkol | my fail |
| 05:11.27 | Rodrigo | ok |
| 05:11.40 | Fromethius | technomancer: secondly, remove the 2 from the Art - Beam and Art - Missile field |
| 05:11.51 | Fromethius | tell me when you've done that |
| 05:12.10 | Technomancer | I think I did Actor Creation - Set Tint |
| 05:12.22 | Froznic | lol i watched a video on youtube about this game earlier today |
| 05:12.26 | Froznic | did you make it? |
| 05:12.36 | Mindful | so, there's no map setting to get your game to auto-start? |
| 05:12.45 | Rodrigo | full house |
| 05:12.48 | Rodrigo | rodrigo 881 |
| 05:12.50 | Rodrigo | starting game.... |
| 05:12.52 | Rodrigo | bye |
| 05:13.04 | Fromethius | yeah but you did actorcreation.firebat |
| 05:13.07 | Fromethius | just do actorcreation |
| 05:13.08 | Penguinator36 | What's a good youtube channel that has helpful map editor guides for someone that has like no experience? |
| 05:13.10 | Fromethius | big difference.. |
| 05:13.14 | Fromethius | one works one doesn't ;) |
| 05:13.29 | Technomancer | was this in the actor for the weapon? |
| 05:15.24 | Froznic | I'd be interested in a youtube channel for that as well |
| 05:15.25 | goomba_ | eek im stuck |
| 05:15.51 | Froznic | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5007-misc-galaxy-editor-overview/ |
| 05:15.57 | Froznic | there's some ideas for maps but there not tutorials |
| 05:16.02 | goomba_ | ekcol i know youre reading this are you stuck/ |
| 05:16.06 | Froznic | ya i'm stuck too :( |
| 05:16.06 | ekcolnovkol | yes |
| 05:16.11 | ekcolnovkol | i have quad screen |
| 05:16.13 | ekcolnovkol | so i'm always reading |
| 05:16.16 | goomba_ | 4? |
| 05:16.19 | goomba_ | o.O |
| 05:16.20 | Froznic | i just have 2 lol |
| 05:16.22 | goomba_ | me too |
| 05:16.24 | Froznic | 3 would be plenty tho for me |
| 05:16.26 | ekcolnovkol | 1 is a 52" |
| 05:16.26 | goomba_ | wtf do you do with 4 monitors |
| 05:16.27 | goomba_ | jesus |
| 05:16.30 | goomba_ | good lord |
| 05:16.30 | Froznic | wow |
| 05:16.30 | ekcolnovkol | porn |
| 05:16.36 | ekcolnovkol | on all 4 screens at once |
| 05:16.40 | goomba_ | is your pc at best buy? |
| 05:16.41 | Froznic | porn + a movie + make a map + play a map? lol |
| 05:16.48 | ekcolnovkol | no |
| 05:16.48 | ekcolnovkol | lmao |
| 05:17.07 | Froznic | hm still stucker |
| 05:17.13 | ekcolnovkol | yeah i'm |
| 05:17.14 | ekcolnovkol | waiting |
| 05:17.16 | Fromethius | technomancer: the actor archon attack copy |
| 05:17.17 | goomba_ | whats an appropriate shortening of your name |
| 05:17.19 | Penguinator36 | porn AND a movie? |
| 05:17.19 | goomba_ | ekco |
| 05:17.20 | goomba_ | ekcol |
| 05:17.24 | goomba_ | ekc |
| 05:17.25 | goomba_ | ek |
| 05:17.25 | goomba_ | c |
| 05:17.26 | goomba_ | e |
| 05:17.26 | ekcolnovkol | e |
| 05:17.31 | Froznic | lol |
| 05:17.32 | goomba_ | sup e |
| 05:17.38 | Technomancer | kk |
| 05:17.43 | ekcolnovkol | i hope that doesn't stick |
| 05:17.44 | goomba_ | ill just call you what everone else does, |
| 05:17.48 | Fromethius | long load..? |
| 05:17.49 | ekcolnovkol | ekca;sdklfjas;fklj |
| 05:17.50 | goomba_ | sup ecklkjoiwejlkelemcovlekolekokveovl |
| 05:17.51 | Fromethius | seems like a simple map |
| 05:17.56 | Froznic | just call him ek :P |
| 05:18.01 | ekcolnovkol | OH YES |
| 05:18.03 | ekcolnovkol | I GOTIN |
| 05:18.10 | ekcolnovkol | and i got dropped. |
| 05:18.13 | Froznic | lawl |
| 05:18.15 | Fromethius | dorped |
| 05:18.43 | `MindWorX | "Event: Unit is highlighted by player", that happens when you hover your mouse over a unit? |
| 05:19.07 | ekcolnovkol | i can legitimately say "i am called many things" |
| 05:20.11 | ekcolnovkol | bar is mid-screen this time |
| 05:20.14 | ekcolnovkol | o .o |
| 05:20.15 | Froznic | that or selected, mouseover sounds more of what it might be |
| 05:20.19 | goomba_ | yeah same spot |
| 05:20.20 | goomba_ | x.x |
| 05:20.24 | goomba_ | someone like |
| 05:20.25 | ekcolnovkol | shennanigans |
| 05:20.28 | goomba_ | didnt finish dling the map or soemthing |
| 05:20.31 | ekcolnovkol | lmao |
| 05:20.36 | Fromethius | does it not work with a full house? |
| 05:20.40 | ekcolnovkol | no idea |
| 05:20.45 | goomba_ | it was full house last game |
| 05:21.05 | Technomancer | okay Fromethius I understood and made the changes accordingly, I will test it now |
| 05:21.34 | Froznic | are there any other irc channels for sc2? |
| 05:21.47 | Froznic | i mean like on this server that are mapsters |
| 05:21.58 | goomba_ | traitor |
| 05:22.08 | goomba_ | you know what we do with traitors? |
| 05:22.09 | Froznic | lol |
| 05:22.10 | ekcolnovkol | STUCK GAME |
| 05:22.16 | ekcolnovkol | we get their game stuck |
| 05:22.19 | Fromethius | boooooooooooh |
| 05:22.22 | Froznic | lawl, so true |
| 05:22.24 | ekcolnovkol | weeps |
| 05:22.27 | Fromethius | who are we waiting on |
| 05:22.31 | goomba_ | feed em to prozaicmuze |
| 05:22.34 | ekcolnovkol | jesus' second coming |
| 05:22.36 | Fromethius | someone not loaded half way yet? |
| 05:22.47 | Froznic | jesus already had a 2nd coming, his name is raynor |
| 05:22.50 | Froznic | k that was a dumb joke -.- |
| 05:22.52 | goomba_ | im stuck at the same spot |
| 05:22.55 | goomba_ | as last time |
| 05:22.58 | goomba_ | right in the middle |
| 05:22.58 | ekcolnovkol | ditto |
| 05:23.00 | Froznic | i'm stuck int he mid not the end |
| 05:23.04 | Fromethius | middle <-- |
| 05:23.12 | ekcolnovkol | middle |
| 05:23.14 | Froznic | just wait? or alt f4? |
| 05:23.23 | goomba_ | doesnt really matter |
| 05:23.30 | ekcolnovkol | yeah it doesn't matter |
| 05:23.33 | ekcolnovkol | get a second screen |
| 05:23.35 | ekcolnovkol | do something while you wait |
| 05:23.39 | ekcolnovkol | YAY DROPPED |
| 05:23.53 | Fromethius | back to mapping i go |
| 05:24.40 | Technomancer | okay Fromethius, but im back to square one, the beam is still bluish white |
| 05:25.06 | Fromethius | that's because it's using the art model for the old beam |
| 05:25.14 | Fromethius | now set the tint |
| 05:25.32 | Fromethius | you know what the world needs |
| 05:25.34 | Fromethius | faster internet |
| 05:25.37 | ekcolnovkol | move to korea |
| 05:25.40 | Fromethius | so i can just do screen sharing with you real time |
| 05:25.42 | Fromethius | and fix it for you |
| 05:25.42 | ekcolnovkol | you get 120 mb/s |
| 05:25.44 | Fromethius | and go back to mapping |
| 05:25.49 | ekcolnovkol | ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY |
| 05:25.51 | Fromethius | yeah well america needs to catch up |
| 05:26.06 | Fromethius | i got 10. |
| 05:26.09 | Fromethius | on a good day |
| 05:26.11 | Fromethius | usually just 5 |
| 05:26.16 | ekcolnovkol | all you have to do is put up with your lunchlady dictator |
| 05:26.26 | Fromethius | sometimes the internet is slow for days and i get <1 |
| 05:26.34 | Fromethius | meanwhile koreans get 200x that |
| 05:26.38 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 05:26.46 | Froznic | ya but u have to worry about ur house getting nuked |
| 05:26.53 | Fromethius | oh yeah good point |
| 05:27.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rodrigo (cf06e61b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.6.230.27) |
| 05:27.40 | Rodrigo | ANOTHER MATCH |
| 05:27.44 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 05:27.44 | Rodrigo | STARTING IN 1 MINUTE |
| 05:27.46 | Rodrigo | 1 SLOT FREE |
| 05:27.55 | Rodrigo | 7 players in lobby waiting |
| 05:27.58 | Rodrigo | JUST 1 SLOT FREE |
| 05:28.06 | Rodrigo | ig you want to play, add me |
| 05:28.07 | Rodrigo | Rodrigo 881 |
| 05:28.09 | ekcolnovkol | rodrigo, get off your fisher-price pc |
| 05:28.14 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 05:28.18 | Rodrigo | im playing in ULTRA |
| 05:28.23 | Rodrigo | i dont know why it crashed |
| 05:28.33 | Rodrigo | my pc is crashing some games sometimes |
| 05:28.36 | Rodrigo | anyway |
| 05:28.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster kruno (724c85a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.114.76.133.161) |
| 05:28.43 | Rodrigo | IF SOMEONE WANT TO PLAY |
| 05:28.45 | Rodrigo | ADD ME NOW |
| 05:28.48 | Rodrigo | 1 SLOT FREE |
| 05:28.51 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 05:28.59 | goomba_ | the game will generate a controversial thought |
| 05:29.14 | goomba_ | everything this map has is inside a terran command center |
| 05:29.16 | goomba_ | xD |
| 05:29.19 | goomba_ | i love your vid |
| 05:29.20 | goomba_ | xD |
| 05:29.22 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 05:29.28 | Froznic | assuming the game actually loads |
| 05:29.30 | Rodrigo | are in game, right? |
| 05:29.33 | goomba_ | i am yeah |
| 05:29.38 | Rodrigo | .) |
| 05:29.39 | Rodrigo | ;) |
| 05:29.43 | Rodrigo | one more player........................................... |
| 05:29.49 | Rodrigo | heyyyyyyyyyy, we need one more player |
| 05:29.50 | ekcolnovkol | skibeladidota |
| 05:29.57 | Rodrigo | id |
| 05:30.04 | goomba_ | make suusuusuurure |
| 05:30.15 | Rodrigo | give me ur name and id if you want to join |
| 05:30.22 | Rodrigo | 1 more player left |
| 05:30.32 | PM|away | eats them traitorous types for breffast! |
| 05:30.35 | Rodrigo | im recording the match |
| 05:30.40 | Rodrigo | its going to be on youtube |
| 05:30.42 | goomba_ | ^ |
| 05:30.46 | Rodrigo | please, join us |
| 05:30.49 | goomba_ | once you mapster |
| 05:30.51 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 05:30.52 | ekcolnovkol | puts on his trollface |
| 05:31.00 | goomba_ | you dont go back |
| 05:31.01 | goomba_ | ster |
| 05:31.03 | goomba_ | ? |
| 05:31.07 | goomba_ | couldnt think of anything witty :\ |
| 05:31.25 | goomba_ | PM join us |
| 05:31.26 | ekcolnovkol | once you mapster, you eat plaster |
| 05:31.29 | ekcolnovkol | o .o |
| 05:31.34 | goomba_ | xD that doesnt make sense |
| 05:31.37 | Rodrigo | 1 player left |
| 05:31.40 | Rodrigo | join us |
| 05:31.47 | ekcolnovkol | learn to raster, log on mapster |
| 05:31.48 | goomba_ | JOOOIINNN USSSSsssSS |
| 05:31.52 | Rodrigo | 1 player left to start game with 8 players |
| 05:32.01 | Rodrigo | JOIN US!!! |
| 05:32.04 | ekcolnovkol | once you mapster, you turn gangster |
| 05:32.07 | goomba_ | use sc2mapster, its recommended by pastors |
| 05:32.11 | ekcolnovkol | lawl |
| 05:32.14 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 05:32.29 | Rodrigo | "debates" starting in 2 min. 7 players in the host. 1 player left |
| 05:32.42 | Rodrigo | send me your id and name now |
| 05:33.01 | Rodrigo | or add me now |
| 05:33.02 | ekcolnovkol | once you pop, get picked up by cops |
| 05:33.03 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 05:33.12 | ekcolnovkol | once you jesus, you eat reses |
| 05:33.18 | goomba_ | lol what |
| 05:33.23 | ekcolnovkol | buy a car, run a light |
| 05:33.49 | ekcolnovkol | once you eat, you lose your feet |
| 05:33.53 | Froznic | Wanna develop maps faster? Get mapster! |
| 05:34.06 | ekcolnovkol | drink a slurpee, get herpes |
| 05:34.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster hyarion (c05ben@peppar.cs.umu.se) |
| 05:34.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster HP-X|Arthas (dv07lfk@salt.cs.umu.se) |
| 05:34.24 | goomba_ | cheesy one liners? id rather sit in recliners |
| 05:34.40 | ekcolnovkol | i guess he, wasn't dead |
| 05:34.44 | ekcolnovkol | YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 05:34.53 | ekcolnovkol | puts on sunglasses |
| 05:35.04 | Rodrigo | 1 player left |
| 05:35.10 | Rodrigo | we are starting the game right now |
| 05:35.12 | Rodrigo | last call |
| 05:35.12 | Fromethius | ekco you a redditor? |
| 05:35.20 | ekcolnovkol | 1 player left, his lip is cleft |
| 05:35.24 | Rodrigo | PLEASE, JOIN US |
| 05:35.28 | ekcolnovkol | why? |
| 05:35.33 | ekcolnovkol | @ From |
| 05:35.37 | Rodrigo | its going to be on youtube |
| 05:35.40 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 882 |
| 05:35.40 | Fromethius | they use that meme a lot on that website |
| 05:35.44 | Rodrigo | add me or send me ur id |
| 05:35.45 | ekcolnovkol | oh lol |
| 05:35.46 | ekcolnovkol | xD |
| 05:35.50 | ekcolnovkol | it's funny |
| 05:35.51 | goomba_ | 881 newb |
| 05:36.03 | Rodrigo | ok |
| 05:36.08 | Rodrigo | full house. I will add you |
| 05:36.23 | Rodrigo | wait |
| 05:36.25 | Rodrigo | this is my id |
| 05:36.32 | ekcolnovkol | don't do the crime, if you can't do the time |
| 05:36.33 | Rodrigo | :( |
| 05:36.35 | goomba_ | rofl |
| 05:36.49 | Rodrigo | come on, just one more player |
| 05:36.56 | Rodrigo | I guess we will have to start with 7 players |
| 05:37.07 | ekcolnovkol | one more player, don't be a hater |
| 05:37.17 | Rodrigo | JOIN OUR GAME!!! |
| 05:37.24 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 882 |
| 05:37.40 | ekcolnovkol | is there a reason we can do 7? |
| 05:37.56 | ekcolnovkol | ooh |
| 05:38.01 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 05:38.28 | Rodrigo | ok full house |
| 05:38.32 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 05:38.33 | Rodrigo | bye |
| 05:39.23 | mahashiro | hey guys, how do I change the attack range of a unit? |
| 05:39.28 | mahashiro | lurker specifically |
| 05:39.52 | ekcolnovkol | IT LOADED |
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| 05:53.55 | Technomancer | is Stats - Damage Point the modifier you use for effecting damage? |
| 05:59.55 | ekcolnovkol | ah my gawd |
| 05:59.56 | ekcolnovkol | that was |
| 05:59.58 | ekcolnovkol | hillarious |
| 06:00.03 | goomba_ | im lolin at myself |
| 06:00.06 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 06:00.06 | goomba_ | that was pretty good no lie |
| 06:00.07 | goomba_ | xD |
| 06:00.09 | ekcolnovkol | flawless victory |
| 06:00.09 | ekcolnovkol | XD |
| 06:00.16 | ekcolnovkol | what do monkeys do with poop? |
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| 06:01.25 | Froznic | rub it on their balls and masturbate |
| 06:01.38 | Froznic | gives a slight tingly feeling |
| 06:01.50 | Froznic | you should deff try it :D |
| 06:01.57 | ekcolnovkol | gah |
| 06:01.58 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rodrigo (cf06e61b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.6.230.27) |
| 06:02.00 | Rodrigo | EPIC DEBATES!!!! |
| 06:02.03 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 06:02.05 | Rodrigo | LMAO! |
| 06:02.12 | Rodrigo | what monkeys do with poopoo? |
| 06:02.17 | Rodrigo | LMAO!!!!! |
| 06:02.36 | Rodrigo | WE ARE STARTING ANOTHER GAME |
| 06:02.38 | Rodrigo | 2 PLAYERS LEFT |
| 06:02.45 | Rodrigo | join us right now!!!! |
| 06:02.47 | Rodrigo | add me |
| 06:02.50 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 06:02.56 | Rodrigo | STARTING "DEBATES" in 3 minutes!!! |
| 06:03.09 | Froznic | k brb in 3 gunna find something to eat |
| 06:03.11 | ekcolnovkol | rodrigo, i'm suprised how spot-on the timing is for each event |
| 06:03.20 | ekcolnovkol | it gets people to think on their feet |
| 06:03.22 | Rodrigo | :p |
| 06:03.27 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 06:03.32 | ekcolnovkol | which i am terrible at, apparently |
| 06:03.34 | Rodrigo | did you see the sorting system? |
| 06:03.36 | Rodrigo | it never fails |
| 06:03.40 | ekcolnovkol | sorting system? |
| 06:03.50 | ekcolnovkol | i have not |
| 06:03.59 | Rodrigo | it always sort by the players who havent played and making sure everyone plays and theres the max number of judges possible |
| 06:04.10 | ekcolnovkol | ah i see |
| 06:04.13 | Rodrigo | the game never starts with less then 3 judges |
| 06:04.29 | Rodrigo | and the player who plays is always the guy who wants to play and havent played |
| 06:04.49 | Rodrigo | you only play twice if theres people that does not want to play |
| 06:04.56 | ekcolnovkol | i need to see your banking system, my banks are AWOL |
| 06:05.06 | ekcolnovkol | can't even keep track of a damn integer |
| 06:05.09 | goomba_ | ill need one too for my campaign lol |
| 06:05.11 | Rodrigo | I will show you, but you will see missing a code for the crypt |
| 06:05.16 | Rodrigo | and the crypt is crucial to the bank |
| 06:05.26 | goomba_ | you should start uploading that last one lol |
| 06:05.30 | ekcolnovkol | it's cool, just keep the bank-related parts intact, you can delete the parts that alter variables |
| 06:05.36 | Rodrigo | I will delete some parts to the bank too, some parts that are important to preserve the online ranking |
| 06:05.43 | ekcolnovkol | mm |
| 06:05.47 | Rodrigo | just some keys |
| 06:05.53 | Rodrigo | theres some special keys |
| 06:06.02 | Rodrigo | that check many stuffs that are secret to protect the ranking |
| 06:06.20 | Rodrigo | the criptography cannot be broken |
| 06:06.31 | Rodrigo | anyway |
| 06:06.33 | Rodrigo | 2 PLAYERS LEFT |
| 06:06.34 | Rodrigo | JOIN US |
| 06:06.38 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 882 |
| 06:06.44 | Rodrigo | 881 |
| 06:06.45 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 06:06.46 | Rodrigo | JOIN US!!!!! |
| 06:06.54 | Rodrigo | 2 PLAYERS LEFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 06:07.22 | goomba_ | start uploading that last one |
| 06:07.23 | goomba_ | ! |
| 06:08.01 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 06:08.04 | Rodrigo | I will make a video |
| 06:08.09 | Rodrigo | one youtube video with all the game |
| 06:08.12 | Rodrigo | games |
| 06:08.16 | Rodrigo | I will choose just the best debates |
| 06:08.21 | goomba_ | o |
| 06:08.30 | Rodrigo | and edit a video |
| 06:08.32 | Rodrigo | today |
| 06:08.44 | Rodrigo | we NEED 2 PLAYERS LEFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 06:08.48 | goomba_ | where do you live , out of curiousity |
| 06:08.50 | Rodrigo | 2 PLAYERS LEFT |
| 06:08.56 | ekcolnovkol | rodrigo, does th defender Always have the last wor? |
| 06:08.58 | Rodrigo | vancouver canada |
| 06:08.58 | ekcolnovkol | *word |
| 06:09.08 | Rodrigo | no |
| 06:09.13 | ekcolnovkol | it's randomized? |
| 06:09.14 | Rodrigo | attacker and defender are random |
| 06:09.16 | Rodrigo | yes |
| 06:09.17 | ekcolnovkol | mm |
| 06:09.27 | ekcolnovkol | the last word is usually pretty powerful |
| 06:09.32 | Rodrigo | I know |
| 06:09.37 | Rodrigo | thats why is random |
| 06:09.45 | goomba_ | i submitted a thought :P |
| 06:09.46 | ekcolnovkol | fortunately, my battle ran a tie xD |
| 06:09.48 | goomba_ | to the youtube |
| 06:09.49 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 06:09.54 | Rodrigo | I might add |
| 06:09.59 | Rodrigo | we still need 2 players left |
| 06:10.06 | Rodrigo | JOIN US!!!! RODRIGO 881 |
| 06:10.13 | Rodrigo | 2 players left!!!!! |
| 06:10.29 | goomba_ | "goombas should not be jumped on" |
| 06:10.39 | goomba_ | would generate some interesting arguments |
| 06:10.45 | ekcolnovkol | is the game automatically updated? |
| 06:10.59 | ekcolnovkol | by submitted thoughts? |
| 06:11.03 | Froznic | where do you find things like big city buildings in the map editor? or can you? |
| 06:11.50 | Rodrigo | sort of |
| 06:11.58 | Rodrigo | I made the triggers in a easy way to add thoughts |
| 06:12.04 | Rodrigo | I just have to add in the end of the list |
| 06:12.15 | goomba_ | cool |
| 06:12.29 | Rodrigo | thats another think I will have to delete because I want the thoughts to be surprise |
| 06:12.42 | Rodrigo | I cant show you all the thoughts, lol. It will spoil the game |
| 06:12.55 | Rodrigo | I will have to delete 95% of them |
| 06:13.05 | ekcolnovkol | wait |
| 06:13.06 | ekcolnovkol | so |
| 06:13.11 | Rodrigo | I will leave just 5 to you see how I add thoughts |
| 06:13.11 | ekcolnovkol | people can add thoughts via banks |
| 06:13.12 | goomba_ | o and some of the english is slightly broken on the load screen btw |
| 06:13.12 | goomba_ | xD |
| 06:13.23 | Rodrigo | yes, but I dont add thoughts via banks |
| 06:13.29 | Rodrigo | bank has a 4kb limit |
| 06:13.32 | ekcolnovkol | ah |
| 06:13.35 | ekcolnovkol | how do you add them? |
| 06:13.35 | Rodrigo | just my crypt uses 2kb |
| 06:13.45 | ekcolnovkol | does your game connect to a site or something? |
| 06:13.45 | Rodrigo | I have all inside the map |
| 06:13.51 | Rodrigo | in a custom script |
| 06:13.57 | Rodrigo | is a custom script |
| 06:14.01 | Rodrigo | with a list of thoughts |
| 06:14.10 | ekcolnovkol | i thought you were updating the game with a server |
| 06:14.14 | ekcolnovkol | nvm then |
| 06:14.16 | Rodrigo | nope |
| 06:14.20 | Rodrigo | I just open the map editor |
| 06:14.24 | Rodrigo | and add a thought |
| 06:14.24 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 06:14.31 | Rodrigo | but now the ranking is another story :D |
| 06:14.48 | Rodrigo | the players update the ranking |
| 06:15.18 | Rodrigo | 2 PLAYERS LEFT!!!!!!!!!!! JOIN US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RODRIGO 881 |
| 06:18.49 | Rodrigo | 1 MORE PLAYER!!! RODRIGO 881 |
| 06:19.00 | Rodrigo | give me your NAME AND ID |
| 06:19.06 | Rodrigo | I will call you to the game |
| 06:19.12 | Rodrigo | game starting in 5 minutes |
| 06:20.28 | goomba_ | anyone home? |
| 06:22.12 | Froznic | just waitin, workin on a map |
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| 06:27.53 | Sevenation | Sup IRC |
| 06:28.15 | Vailreth | im here i am just hoping Prozaic gets back soon iw ant some help |
| 06:29.46 | Sevenation | Is the IRC dead? |
| 06:29.46 | Sevenation | lol |
| 06:29.52 | goomba_ | atm it is |
| 06:29.58 | goomba_ | hi sevennation army |
| 06:30.01 | goomba_ | you cant hold me back |
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| 06:35.16 | Rodrigo | hey |
| 06:35.18 | Rodrigo | goomba |
| 06:35.19 | Rodrigo | they me |
| 06:35.24 | goomba_ | hmm? |
| 06:35.26 | Rodrigo | whats the problem in the loading screen |
| 06:35.29 | goomba_ | oh |
| 06:35.29 | Rodrigo | tell me |
| 06:35.30 | Rodrigo | * |
| 06:35.32 | goomba_ | i sent em to you lol |
| 06:35.37 | goomba_ | just a few little ocd things |
| 06:35.41 | goomba_ | grammar police |
| 06:35.45 | Rodrigo | like what |
| 06:35.49 | goomba_ | in the query |
| 06:35.53 | Rodrigo | im updating the map right now |
| 06:36.05 | goomba_ | [02:30] <goomba_> >This map is still being tested. If you see any bugs, please report them to the youtube channel or to my e-mail. |
| 06:36.05 | goomba_ | [02:31] <goomba_> >Discuss this game at sc2Mapster.com |
| 06:36.05 | goomba_ | [02:33] <goomba_> the other things would make more sense if they said this: |
| 06:36.05 | goomba_ | [02:33] <goomba_> >Players sorted by AI |
| 06:36.06 | goomba_ | [02:33] <goomba_> > Exclusive thoughts every week (read the tips to learn more). |
| 06:36.16 | goomba_ | dont feel like retyping :P |
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| 06:36.29 | Rodrigo | hmmm |
| 06:36.35 | Rodrigo | tahnks |
| 06:36.39 | Rodrigo | thanks |
| 06:36.41 | Rodrigo | I will check |
| 06:36.59 | goomba_ | xD |
| 06:38.51 | Froznic | i duno if it's possible to do.. i noticed you pass on the score values for each game, maybe it's possible to pass on ideas that people have that they can submit during a game, and have other people able to view those tips as well as take them out of the game by copying or something |
| 06:39.14 | goomba_ | you should put my thought in too :> |
| 06:40.08 | Rodrigo | goomga. I just added your suggestion :) |
| 06:40.16 | Rodrigo | thanks. Im terrible with preposition |
| 06:40.21 | Rodrigo | it was all preposition problems |
| 06:40.27 | Rodrigo | or idiomatic expressions |
| 06:40.31 | Rodrigo | my nightmare |
| 06:40.49 | Froznic | hey, you know how when you add some doodads to your game, they randomly select from like 5 of that same doodad what to place. is there a way to go through which ones are available before actually adding one? |
| 06:40.51 | Vailreth | who ever was doing the Tiberian Mod if you are here i think i have figured out how to make a working mcv |
| 06:41.00 | goomba_ | lol im native speaker so meh |
| 06:41.17 | Vailreth | well atleast a conyard |
| 06:41.31 | goomba_ | whos workong on a tiberian sun modD?????????? |
| 06:41.57 | Vailreth | tiberium agem |
| 06:42.04 | goomba_ | oh |
| 06:42.15 | goomba_ | @rodrigo what other maps are you currently developing |
| 06:42.22 | Vailreth | not sure whos doing the mod but ... i figured out the conyard |
| 06:42.42 | Rodrigo | none |
| 06:42.49 | Rodrigo | I got unmotivated to develop |
| 06:42.49 | goomba_ | :> |
| 06:42.52 | Rodrigo | because of the popularity system |
| 06:42.58 | Rodrigo | theres just no point is developing |
| 06:43.04 | Froznic | ya i thought that was pretty gay too |
| 06:43.09 | goomba_ | thats fairly true |
| 06:43.15 | goomba_ | althought |
| 06:43.20 | Rodrigo | I would I develop if I spend 2 days to gather 8 people to play my map? |
| 06:43.23 | goomba_ | you should still join my campaign team xD |
| 06:43.26 | Rodrigo | why |
| 06:43.37 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 06:43.38 | goomba_ | it would be fun |
| 06:43.39 | goomba_ | and epic |
| 06:43.42 | Rodrigo | i have no motivation to develop maps |
| 06:43.44 | goomba_ | ive got 4 people |
| 06:43.48 | Rodrigo | until they fix that broken system |
| 06:44.00 | Rodrigo | I will just keep improving debates |
| 06:44.09 | Rodrigo | adding more thoughts, youtube videos, etc |
| 06:44.11 | Rodrigo | by the way |
| 06:44.15 | Rodrigo | I need a new thought of the week |
| 06:44.21 | Rodrigo | hmmm... maybe next week |
| 06:44.31 | Lilianna | http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6dh6mC64s1qcajtro1_500.jpg |
| 06:44.33 | Lilianna | >.> |
| 06:45.47 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 06:46.01 | Froznic | lol |
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| 06:49.37 | PM|away | what do you need Vail? |
| 06:49.51 | PM|away | query me |
| 06:49.59 | PM|away | i'm goin' afk again, but when i get back I can help |
| 06:50.16 | goomba_ | feeds pm more traitors |
| 06:50.24 | PM|away | nom nom noms |
| 06:50.48 | goomba_ | prozaicmuze, helper of noobs, devourer of traitors |
| 06:51.09 | PM|away | afk ;) |
| 06:51.15 | PM|away | query me if you need something (everyone) |
| 06:51.25 | Vailreth | later muze |
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| 06:53.01 | Mindful | rodrigo |
| 06:53.07 | Mindful | i have a thought of the week :P |
| 06:53.11 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 06:53.14 | Mindful | "Real Names would stop trolls" |
| 06:53.15 | Rodrigo | say it |
| 06:53.23 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 06:53.33 | Rodrigo | that's hard |
| 06:53.34 | Mindful | you'd be surprised how many people are willing to debate that |
| 06:53.39 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 06:53.42 | Rodrigo | ok I will add |
| 06:53.45 | Mindful | <3 |
| 06:53.57 | Rodrigo | what name should I put |
| 06:54.04 | Mindful | uh, Mindful |
| 06:54.07 | Mindful | but you don't have to credit me |
| 06:55.09 | Rodrigo | the system was made to credit |
| 06:55.18 | Rodrigo | all thought of the weeks have already a variable called NAME |
| 06:55.19 | Mindful | well, if you want to credit me, use the name Mindful |
| 06:55.21 | Mindful | rofl |
| 06:55.22 | Mindful | fair enough |
| 06:55.27 | ekcolnovkol | but |
| 06:55.30 | Rodrigo | name and where |
| 06:55.36 | Rodrigo | where do you suggested |
| 06:55.38 | ekcolnovkol | you have to make sure that your thoughts are quickly debatable |
| 06:55.43 | Rodrigo | I will put sc2mapster |
| 06:55.47 | ekcolnovkol | like imagine if you had the thought "abortion is a woman's right" |
| 06:55.59 | ekcolnovkol | or "god is real" |
| 06:55.59 | ekcolnovkol | or |
| 06:56.02 | Rodrigo | i have |
| 06:56.03 | Rodrigo | both |
| 06:56.09 | ekcolnovkol | "bush was a terrible president" |
| 06:56.13 | Rodrigo | yes |
| 06:56.14 | ekcolnovkol | but that's the thing |
| 06:56.21 | Rodrigo | "Obama is better than bush" |
| 06:56.25 | ekcolnovkol | these take way longer than 45 seconsd :I |
| 06:56.30 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 06:56.34 | Rodrigo | now is 50 seconds |
| 06:56.40 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 06:56.42 | Rodrigo | I increased the time |
| 06:56.46 | Vailreth | hmm any one know how the protoss build in powerfield works? |
| 06:56.49 | Rodrigo | the second round is 45 |
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| 06:58.43 | Rodrigo | damn galaxy editor |
| 06:58.47 | Rodrigo | I cant update the map |
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| 07:00.07 | Rodrigo | finally |
| 07:00.10 | Rodrigo | publishing....... |
| 07:01.14 | Rodrigo | ok Mindful. Your suggestion for a thought of the week is now online. "Real Names would stop trolls" by Mindful (on Sc2Mapsters.com) |
| 07:03.34 | Rodrigo | ANOTHER DEBATES MATCH WILL START IN 10 MINUTES |
| 07:06.53 | Rodrigo | PLEASE, JOIN US IN THIS MATCH |
| 07:06.55 | Rodrigo | ADD ME |
| 07:06.58 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 07:07.03 | allenmelon | debates |
| 07:07.05 | Rodrigo | the video is going to be on youtube |
| 07:07.07 | allenmelon | i saw the video of that |
| 07:07.14 | Rodrigo | im making a new one |
| 07:07.16 | Rodrigo | join us |
| 07:07.18 | allenmelon | its like a lawyers game |
| 07:07.21 | allenmelon | i suck at debating |
| 07:07.24 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 07:07.27 | Rodrigo | it does not matter |
| 07:07.31 | Rodrigo | most of people suck |
| 07:07.36 | Rodrigo | join us |
| 07:07.39 | Rodrigo | give me ur name and identifier |
| 07:07.47 | goomba_ | invite me |
| 07:07.52 | Rodrigo | ok |
| 07:07.54 | Rodrigo | I will |
| 07:07.57 | Rodrigo | allenmelon |
| 07:08.02 | Rodrigo | give me ur name and id |
| 07:08.04 | Rodrigo | I add u |
| 07:08.53 | goomba_ | we playin now? |
| 07:08.57 | Rodrigo | 10 min |
| 07:09.06 | Rodrigo | allenmelon |
| 07:09.07 | Rodrigo | add me |
| 07:09.07 | Froznic | have u started the invites? or doing that in 10? |
| 07:09.09 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 07:09.20 | Rodrigo | I have started calling people |
| 07:09.26 | Rodrigo | theres many people online |
| 07:09.31 | Froznic | k |
| 07:09.32 | Rodrigo | lets see if this time theres another game |
| 07:09.41 | Rodrigo | I will be there right now calling more |
| 07:12.13 | Sevenation | lol anyone on? |
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| 07:14.48 | Dashkal | yay, finally finished the campaign. On easy. time to do it again. |
| 07:15.22 | Froznic | anyone know the hotkey to move a doodad with the keyboard? |
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| 07:19.37 | Rodrigo | hey |
| 07:19.41 | Rodrigo | DEBATES STARTING SOON!!! |
| 07:19.45 | Rodrigo | PLEASE, ADD ME |
| 07:19.45 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 07:19.50 | Rodrigo | NEW MATCH STARTING IN 10 MINUTES |
| 07:19.57 | Rodrigo | theres almost full house already |
| 07:20.02 | Rodrigo | add me |
| 07:20.03 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 07:20.08 | rrowland | I'll play |
| 07:20.10 | rrowland | (I'll win) |
| 07:20.12 | Rodrigo | cool |
| 07:20.14 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 07:20.17 | rrowland | rrowland 925 |
| 07:20.18 | Rodrigo | add me |
| 07:20.21 | rrowland | you're added |
| 07:20.45 | Rodrigo | k |
| 07:20.48 | Rodrigo | im going there |
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| 07:21.55 | Froznic | invite? |
| 07:22.31 | Penguinator36 | Where do you change the size of a unit, and where do you change attack speed? |
| 07:26.04 | goomba_ | oo we got rrowland |
| 07:26.16 | rrowland | If I get invited |
| 07:26.30 | Fromethius | anyone know how to get auto cast abilities to not interupt movement? |
| 07:26.57 | *** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170) |
| 07:26.58 | Fromethius | i have an auto cast ability which causes an aoe nuke explosion to trigger around the caster every 3 seconds |
| 07:27.10 | Fromethius | unfortunately, though, it interupts the caster's movement and attacking |
| 07:27.17 | Fromethius | i want the two to be completely independent |
| 07:28.42 | Rodrigo | 7 PLAYERS IN LOBBY |
| 07:28.45 | Rodrigo | 1 PLAYER LEFT!!!! |
| 07:28.48 | Rodrigo | LAST CALL!!! |
| 07:28.52 | Rodrigo | THE VIDEO GOES TO YOUTUBE |
| 07:28.54 | Rodrigo | JOIN US |
| 07:28.59 | Rodrigo | ADD ME RIGHT NOW |
| 07:29.00 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 07:29.09 | Rodrigo | LAST CALL - "DEBATES" starting in 3 minutes! |
| 07:29.31 | Penguinator36 | I WANT TO JOIN |
| 07:29.33 | Penguinator36 | hold on one second |
| 07:29.37 | Rodrigo | give me your id |
| 07:29.43 | Rodrigo | thers just one spot left |
| 07:30.18 | Rodrigo | sorry |
| 07:30.19 | Rodrigo | full house |
| 07:30.21 | Rodrigo | add me later |
| 07:30.23 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 07:30.24 | Rodrigo | bye |
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| 07:48.19 | Zanam00 | Anyone awake still? |
| 07:51.15 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tauren-space-marine-3rd-person-s/. Tauren Space Marine 3rd Person Shooter. eisnerguy1 (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
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| 07:53.31 | Fromethius | yeah |
| 07:53.49 | Zanam00 | well hopefully someone is that can give me a hand... trying to get a projectile in the air instead of skimming on the surface. have tried using an actor to increase height, increasing height on the unit, and triggering the effect from a 3d point with a Z coordinate... none have worked. feels like i'm overlooking something simple |
| 07:53.52 | Fromethius | btw, does anyone know how to make an ability not interupt the unit's current command? |
| 07:54.28 | Fromethius | zanam00 don't you use movers for that |
| 07:54.41 | Saeris1 | so, i really hate trying to copy the medivac double heal ability >.< so many effects and validators to make |
| 07:55.06 | Zanam00 | I tried a mover, on unitbirth, increase height. still remained on the ground |
| 07:55.10 | Zanam00 | er |
| 07:55.25 | Zanam00 | right, mover not actor. tried three different base movers from things normally in the air |
| 07:55.43 | Zanam00 | havent tried making one from scratch yet though |
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| 07:56.26 | Rodrigo | ANOTHER DEBATES MATCH STARTING In 3 MINUTES |
| 07:56.30 | Rodrigo | 3 PLAYERS LEFT |
| 07:56.37 | Rodrigo | JOIN US. ADD ME RIGHT NOW |
| 07:56.39 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 07:56.57 | Rodrigo | last one "Pokemons are evil" was epic |
| 07:57.13 | Rodrigo | please, if you want to join this debate, ADD ME RIGHT NOW |
| 07:57.14 | Zanam00 | hrm... did just notice the height map is set to ground on my mover. gonna try some things. wish i knew anything bout your abilities, haven't played with them yet |
| 07:57.16 | Rodrigo | 3 PLAYERS LEFT |
| 07:57.19 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 07:58.15 | Fromethius | how do you make a medivac heal while moving? |
| 07:58.18 | Fromethius | tia |
| 07:59.56 | Rodrigo | ok STARTING GAME |
| 07:59.59 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 08:00.00 | Rodrigo | bye |
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| 08:06.44 | Rodrigo | DEBATES MATCH STARTING IN 4 MINUTES |
| 08:06.51 | Rodrigo | PLEASE, JOIN US |
| 08:06.53 | Rodrigo | 3 PLAYERS LEFT |
| 08:07.24 | Rodrigo | PLEASE, JOIN US IN "DEBATES". ADD ME RIGHT NOW: RODRIGO 881 |
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| 08:10.46 | Rodrigo | JOIN DEBATES RIGHT NOW! |
| 08:10.51 | Rodrigo | ADD ME |
| 08:10.55 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 08:11.00 | Rodrigo | 2 PLAYERS LEFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 08:11.06 | Rodrigo | THE VIDEO IS GOING TO BE ON YOUTUBE |
| 08:11.08 | Rodrigo | LAST CALL |
| 08:11.15 | Rodrigo | 2 players left. add me |
| 08:11.17 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
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| 08:15.24 | hakowy | hello, how much people are actually on bnet on US server? |
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| 08:17.24 | FrozenFirebat | hello irc |
| 08:17.37 | Froznic | still lookin for 2m? |
| 08:17.38 | hakowy | anyone from US? |
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| 08:19.38 | goomba_ | stuck >:| |
| 08:19.56 | goomba_ | ekcol youre bad luck |
| 08:24.26 | Froznic | hm, so i removed "Start the melee Ai for all computers players" and "Create melee starting units for all players" and everytime i run my map it says player 2 won etc. I can't figure out how to make the game not end right after it starts without having a command center and scv's even then if i manually place them on there that doesn't even work. any ideas? |
| 08:25.05 | FrozenFirebat | Default melee options, Froznic |
| 08:25.17 | Froznic | do you know what that does exactly? |
| 08:25.20 | FrozenFirebat | that enables melee vic and defeat |
| 08:25.31 | FrozenFirebat | and reveal |
| 08:25.41 | Froznic | k |
| 08:26.30 | Froznic | bah i lied i did h ave that one in there |
| 08:26.44 | Froznic | there's 2 i took out that are automatically there, i guess that one wasn't one of them |
| 08:27.29 | FrozenFirebat | the 4 melee actions set 50mins for all players, victory conditions, AI control, and your starting units |
| 08:27.43 | Froznic | you have to have all 4 of them? |
| 08:27.49 | FrozenFirebat | if you want to play melee |
| 08:27.54 | FrozenFirebat | otherwise you need none of them |
| 08:28.05 | Froznic | nah it's a custom map |
| 08:28.13 | Froznic | by melee do you mean like a 2v2 sorta thing? |
| 08:28.15 | FrozenFirebat | Normally, you just delete that trigger |
| 08:28.31 | Froznic | well i've left melee-set the starting resources and set default melee options for all players |
| 08:28.36 | Froznic | is one of those causing it to end the game? |
| 08:28.47 | FrozenFirebat | default melee options |
| 08:29.35 | Froznic | awesome, there we go |
| 08:30.07 | hakowy | anyone from US? |
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| 08:38.09 | Rodrigo | hey. NEW DEBATES ROUND STARTING IN HALF HOUR |
| 08:38.20 | Rodrigo | if you want to play with us, give me your name and id |
| 08:38.26 | Rodrigo | and I add you to the game |
| 08:38.31 | Rodrigo | the video is going to be on youtube today |
| 08:38.44 | Sevenation | yo |
| 08:38.46 | Rodrigo | play "DEBATES" WITH US!!! |
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| 08:38.49 | Sevenation | Rodrigo |
| 08:38.51 | Rodrigo | yes |
| 08:38.52 | Sevenation | Invite me when you're playing |
| 08:38.54 | Sevenation | :D |
| 08:39.07 | onetwo | hi guys |
| 08:39.22 | Rodrigo | ok |
| 08:39.34 | Rodrigo | WHO WANTS TO JOIN??? |
| 08:39.38 | Rodrigo | DEBATES in HALF HOUR |
| 08:39.44 | Rodrigo | ADD ME RODRIGO 881 |
| 08:39.47 | Rodrigo | or give me your id |
| 08:39.47 | Sevenation | Anyone see my perfect antiblock? :D |
| 08:39.48 | Sevenation | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo3e8zKLXEM&feature=player_embedded |
| 08:40.28 | Rodrigo | excellent antiblock |
| 08:40.35 | Sevenation | :D |
| 08:40.40 | Rodrigo | is this an invisible unit trying to reach the other side? |
| 08:40.43 | Sevenation | nope |
| 08:40.44 | Rodrigo | a very fast unit? |
| 08:41.00 | Rodrigo | hmm |
| 08:41.05 | Rodrigo | so how do you check? |
| 08:41.08 | Fromethius | sevenation that is really impressive |
| 08:41.11 | Rodrigo | I would make an invisible unit |
| 08:41.16 | Rodrigo | runinng in miliseconds |
| 08:41.21 | Sevenation | I take the X coordinate of each tower connected to each other, and find the maximum X coordinate and the minimum X coordinate. If the difference of the coordinates is equal to the size of the lane, then the lane must be blocked. Probably not a good explanation for now, but I'll release a better worded tutorial later lol. |
| 08:41.26 | Sevenation | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/5516-line-tower-wars/#p3 |
| 08:41.45 | Sevenation | Original concept credit to Pender. |
| 08:41.52 | Rodrigo | but what happens when you block in diagonal? |
| 08:41.56 | Sevenation | Same thing |
| 08:42.09 | Rodrigo | hmmm |
| 08:42.13 | Rodrigo | nice job |
| 08:42.22 | Sevenation | thanks |
| 08:42.32 | onetwo | fatal5101 has been doing one too |
| 08:42.37 | onetwo | his was getting near completein beta |
| 08:42.41 | onetwo | but havent seen it lately |
| 08:42.48 | onetwo | but i welcome any line tower wars |
| 08:42.49 | onetwo | it was one of my favs |
| 08:42.52 | onetwo | plz get it popular |
| 08:42.52 | Sevenation | haha yeah |
| 08:42.53 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:43.04 | Sevenation | I can't wait to play my own map LOL |
| 08:43.09 | onetwo | were these nexus wars/battlecraft type maps popular in sc1? |
| 08:43.11 | onetwo | because i find them so boring |
| 08:43.14 | onetwo | and they werent ever really in war3 |
| 08:43.17 | onetwo | but somehow in sc2 |
| 08:43.20 | onetwo | theyre mega popular |
| 08:43.21 | Sevenation | they were in wc3 |
| 08:43.25 | Sevenation | castle wars |
| 08:43.28 | Sevenation | and something else |
| 08:43.31 | onetwo | i never even heard of that for some reason |
| 08:43.34 | Sevenation | lol |
| 08:43.34 | onetwo | and i played war3 for yeares |
| 08:43.37 | onetwo | years* |
| 08:43.37 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:43.53 | onetwo | it just bums me out that those maps are taking spots that maps like line tower wars |
| 08:43.55 | onetwo | or awesome ones like that |
| 08:43.56 | onetwo | could be |
| 08:43.57 | onetwo | in |
| 08:44.16 | onetwo | my advice to you sevenation: make it simple and awesome |
| 08:44.20 | onetwo | dont bog it down with mechanics |
| 08:44.34 | Sevenation | It's just going to be the same as the original LTW |
| 08:44.40 | Sevenation | The one I played anyway |
| 08:44.45 | Sevenation | send units, defend your line |
| 08:45.11 | onetwo | nice |
| 08:45.17 | onetwo | id suggest changing the system of getting a wisp though |
| 08:45.24 | onetwo | it was annoying |
| 08:45.26 | onetwo | picking the wrong one |
| 08:45.27 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:45.33 | Sevenation | You mean elemental tower stuff? |
| 08:45.34 | onetwo | and you never know what the hell each race does |
| 08:45.35 | onetwo | yeah |
| 08:45.39 | Sevenation | Screw that lol |
| 08:45.47 | Sevenation | I might do it |
| 08:45.48 | onetwo | maybe make it so if you start building in certain tech paths |
| 08:45.50 | Sevenation | But a lot cleaner |
| 08:45.50 | onetwo | it unlocks more |
| 08:45.56 | onetwo | like if you start building a basic fire tower |
| 08:45.59 | onetwo | itll unlock super fire tower |
| 08:46.00 | onetwo | and so on |
| 08:46.04 | onetwo | so you define your own tech path |
| 08:46.11 | Sevenation | that's a good idea |
| 08:46.12 | onetwo | anyway |
| 08:46.13 | onetwo | its your map |
| 08:46.14 | onetwo | :D |
| 08:46.16 | Sevenation | lol |
| 08:46.17 | Sevenation | na |
| 08:46.26 | Sevenation | I'm just making the map because nobody else will |
| 08:46.31 | Sevenation | I want to play LTW :( |
| 08:46.56 | onetwo | same |
| 08:46.57 | onetwo | gj |
| 08:47.07 | onetwo | im trying to get my rpg going |
| 08:47.09 | onetwo | its a lot of work |
| 08:47.11 | onetwo | if you want to do one right |
| 08:47.15 | onetwo | and theres no competition atm |
| 08:47.17 | onetwo | basically |
| 08:47.22 | onetwo | most mappers are scared of data editor |
| 08:47.36 | Sevenation | I want to make towers have a base though |
| 08:47.38 | onetwo | including myself |
| 08:47.40 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:47.41 | Sevenation | Can't figure it out =\ |
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| 08:55.07 | Froznic | so i'm trying to move my timer window from the top right corner to the bottom left, it lets you chose the coordinates so i changed it from 0,0 to -5,-5 and it's not on the screen, 5,5 and it's not on the screen. Any ideas on how to make this happen? |
| 08:58.14 | onetwo | uh |
| 08:58.19 | onetwo | i think its positive values goes away from the screen |
| 08:58.22 | onetwo | so if youre in top right |
| 08:58.23 | onetwo | anchor |
| 08:58.28 | onetwo | 5,5 would move it towards center |
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| 08:58.33 | onetwo | -5,-5 towards north east |
| 08:58.35 | onetwo | aka off screen |
| 08:58.38 | onetwo | i THINK |
| 08:58.51 | Rodrigo | hey |
| 08:58.57 | Rodrigo | who wants to join DEBATES in about half hour?? |
| 08:59.04 | Rodrigo | please, join us :) |
| 08:59.09 | hakowy | Rodrigo? |
| 08:59.13 | Rodrigo | just give me your id and name and I add you |
| 08:59.14 | hakowy | its eu server? |
| 08:59.18 | Rodrigo | US sorry |
| 08:59.22 | hakowy | .. |
| 08:59.34 | hakowy | how many players are actually on us server? |
| 08:59.43 | Sixen | all of north america |
| 08:59.58 | Rodrigo | theres 10 players waiting to play debates, but I know just half of them will actually be there to play at any time |
| 08:59.59 | hakowy | click on home page |
| 09:00.02 | hakowy | and you will see |
| 09:00.14 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 09:00.18 | Fisker | Blizzard set my world on fire |
| 09:00.29 | hakowy | Sixen click on home page |
| 09:00.38 | hakowy | and there you will see how many players |
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| 09:00.55 | Sixen | Orly? |
| 09:00.59 | Penguinator36 | hey guys |
| 09:01.01 | hakowy | yes really! |
| 09:01.02 | Sixen | hai2u |
| 09:01.34 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 09:01.40 | Fisker | BLIZZARD SET MY WORLD ON FIRE :( |
| 09:02.36 | ShadowTiger | check out what im working on : D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhUvMWgsfhw |
| 09:02.40 | Fisker | :( |
| 09:03.19 | ekcolnovkol | hey sixen |
| 09:03.21 | ekcolnovkol | where's vj |
| 09:03.48 | Sixen | dunno |
| 09:03.50 | Sixen | why, what's u |
| 09:03.57 | Sixen | btw, going to poist on curse in a bit |
| 09:03.58 | ekcolnovkol | he's helping me with distributions |
| 09:04.00 | ekcolnovkol | cool |
| 09:04.01 | ekcolnovkol | also |
| 09:04.01 | ekcolnovkol | http://www.youtube.com/user/TacticMove |
| 09:04.06 | ekcolnovkol | new vid |
| 09:04.11 | Sixen | k :) |
| 09:04.21 | ekcolnovkol | see how thoughtful i am? |
| 09:04.24 | ekcolnovkol | :D |
| 09:04.25 | Rodrigo | I'm posting today on sc2mapster a new debates video with EPIC DEBATES we had today |
| 09:04.34 | Rodrigo | lol. I played 4 matches with the mapsters from this site |
| 09:04.42 | onetwo | hi Sixen of sc2mapster.com, subscribe me and my awesome channel see hd videos and check out my blog and stuff |
| 09:04.42 | Rodrigo | we had som much epic debates |
| 09:04.45 | onetwo | :D |
| 09:04.55 | Froznic | onetwo ya that's what i thought too, but no matter what value i use it's just simply gone =/ not sure what's happening to it |
| 09:05.09 | onetwo | wha |
| 09:05.15 | Rodrigo | another debates match starting in half hour. If you want to play with us, add me. RODRIGO 881 |
| 09:05.39 | FrozenFirebat | Nice plug for yourself ShadowTiger |
| 09:05.55 | ShadowTiger | i was really just showing off my mods to the lost viking |
| 09:06.03 | onetwo | HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH |
| 09:06.04 | onetwo | HAHAHAHAHHAHA |
| 09:06.05 | onetwo | hAHAHAH |
| 09:06.05 | Fisker | what's a poist Sixen ? |
| 09:06.07 | onetwo | ah |
| 09:06.08 | FrozenFirebat | I liked how you had to throw your RL project in there XD |
| 09:06.09 | onetwo | eckolnovkol |
| 09:06.11 | ShadowTiger | not much yet but i was wondering if anyone else was interested in the idea |
| 09:06.13 | onetwo | you put the basshunter DOTA song |
| 09:06.14 | onetwo | thats fucking awesome |
| 09:06.16 | onetwo | and hilarious |
| 09:06.40 | ShadowTiger | ideally someone else could design the enemies and I would put in weapons/powerups and stuff |
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| 09:06.51 | onetwo | Sixen |
| 09:06.54 | onetwo | what are you going to post on curse |
| 09:07.00 | onetwo | any details on your upcoming album with drake? |
| 09:08.09 | Fisker | poist onetwo |
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| 09:09.30 | onetwo | ? |
| 09:10.43 | onetwo | I think our forums are bugged too |
| 09:10.44 | Fisker | he said poist |
| 09:10.46 | onetwo | new posts dont show any views |
| 09:10.48 | Fisker | not post |
| 09:10.48 | onetwo | still 0 |
| 09:10.52 | onetwo | oh |
| 09:10.55 | onetwo | ok hes poisting |
| 09:10.57 | onetwo | oh thats fine |
| 09:11.30 | Fisker | yarr |
| 09:12.59 | Fisker | i just wish Blizzard would stop setting my world on fire |
| 09:13.13 | LordAbyss | man i almost have all gold on the challenges |
| 09:13.14 | LordAbyss | haha |
| 09:13.20 | LordAbyss | last 2 are at silver |
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| 09:15.19 | Fisker | haha Sixen |
| 09:15.20 | FrozenFirebat | I'm almost done with getting all the mission achievements, LordAbyss XD |
| 09:15.23 | Fisker | tech support. |
| 09:15.24 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/169348287 |
| 09:15.25 | Fisker | lold |
| 09:15.30 | LordAbyss | eh i haven't attempted that yet |
| 09:15.39 | LordAbyss | thats more endurence crap i don't want to do |
| 09:15.44 | LordAbyss | you playing them on brutal? |
| 09:16.29 | FrozenFirebat | none of the achievments I believe require brutal... played through the game first time on brutal |
| 09:16.40 | LordAbyss | ahh |
| 09:16.40 | FrozenFirebat | so I'm just going back and cleaning up the achivements and feats of strength |
| 09:16.53 | LordAbyss | man i played it on normal and i thought the last mission was a pain |
| 09:17.05 | LordAbyss | but i never once lost a mission |
| 09:17.07 | LordAbyss | soo haha |
| 09:17.07 | FrozenFirebat | Lmao... I had to restart the last mission 7 times on brutal |
| 09:17.18 | FrozenFirebat | Nydus worms every 15 seconds on brutal |
| 09:17.30 | LordAbyss | i killed the nydus worms |
| 09:17.37 | LordAbyss | so i ended up massing vikings and bcs |
| 09:17.40 | FrozenFirebat | ahh... I took out the air, cause that shit is annoying. |
| 09:17.45 | LordAbyss | but kerrigan was 1 shotting my bcs |
| 09:17.46 | LordAbyss | :( |
| 09:17.52 | FrozenFirebat | She does that unless you EMP her |
| 09:17.59 | LordAbyss | ooo |
| 09:18.03 | LordAbyss | now i know |
| 09:18.10 | LordAbyss | i can yamato spam her now |
| 09:18.12 | LordAbyss | :) |
| 09:18.39 | FrozenFirebat | yeah... that's what I did... had 4 BCs out, hit her with spamm yamato |
| 09:18.46 | onetwo | <--- plays on casual |
| 09:18.51 | ekcolnovkol | lol my brother made that video |
| 09:18.56 | FrozenFirebat | between that and my dozen tanks on cliffs.. |
| 09:18.58 | LordAbyss | dude i had like 6 bcs all yamato |
| 09:18.59 | ekcolnovkol | he put it together in like 28 mins |
| 09:19.03 | onetwo | its awesome |
| 09:19.04 | LordAbyss | didn't kill her |
| 09:19.05 | onetwo | i love the song choice |
| 09:19.06 | onetwo | too funny |
| 09:19.07 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 09:19.11 | FrozenFirebat | she takes reduced spell dmg |
| 09:19.12 | ekcolnovkol | skibeladedota |
| 09:19.16 | LordAbyss | but those science vessals are a life saver |
| 09:19.18 | onetwo | have you seen the music vid |
| 09:19.21 | LordAbyss | repair :) |
| 09:19.24 | ekcolnovkol | for basshunter? |
| 09:19.24 | onetwo | its him playing dota |
| 09:19.27 | onetwo | with a bunch of hot girls wathcing |
| 09:19.27 | onetwo | yeah |
| 09:19.28 | ekcolnovkol | oh yeah it's lol |
| 09:19.31 | FrozenFirebat | I didn't get them my first time through |
| 09:19.38 | ekcolnovkol | i think he was using tiny |
| 09:19.39 | LordAbyss | i love them |
| 09:19.39 | onetwo | the girls are probably like wtf cant we jsut get money thrown at us like regular videos |
| 09:19.45 | LordAbyss | get like 3 of them backing up mech |
| 09:19.46 | onetwo | europeans love war3 |
| 09:19.49 | onetwo | and koreans love sc1 |
| 09:19.49 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 09:19.51 | LordAbyss | so much safer then scvs |
| 09:20.09 | FrozenFirebat | I wasn't a mech build either... I love my infantry |
| 09:20.25 | LordAbyss | i did until i get merc tanks and goliaths |
| 09:20.26 | LordAbyss | rawr |
| 09:20.29 | FrozenFirebat | Throw on some Merc Gols and Vikings for AA |
| 09:20.44 | LordAbyss | that super transport was sexy also |
| 09:20.53 | FrozenFirebat | Predator was pretty awesome tho |
| 09:21.09 | LordAbyss | was that the anti infantry unit that looks like a dog or something? |
| 09:21.15 | FrozenFirebat | yeah |
| 09:21.21 | LordAbyss | i got the other thing |
| 09:21.24 | FrozenFirebat | every time it attacks, it does AE dmg |
| 09:21.46 | FrozenFirebat | 3-4 of those could tear through a zerg wave |
| 09:22.01 | FrozenFirebat | I favored the MC tower over the slowing one |
| 09:22.08 | LordAbyss | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:22.10 | FrozenFirebat | I always ended missions with tons of extra zerg units |
| 09:22.10 | LordAbyss | its amazing |
| 09:22.13 | LordAbyss | haha |
| 09:22.38 | FrozenFirebat | It's how you get the 10 droppod achievement on the First char mission |
| 09:22.48 | FrozenFirebat | I used a bunch of those towers to defend my base |
| 09:22.57 | FrozenFirebat | MCing Mutas, Hydras, and Ultras |
| 09:23.06 | LordAbyss | they auto MC? |
| 09:23.09 | FrozenFirebat | nope |
| 09:23.12 | FrozenFirebat | Manual Cast |
| 09:23.23 | FrozenFirebat | but they can MC for 50engy |
| 09:23.27 | LordAbyss | im more a fire and forget kind of guy |
| 09:23.40 | LordAbyss | i like to build a line that i can have it be self sustaining |
| 09:24.00 | LordAbyss | like an scv for repair with medic backing him up with a couple bunkers with turrets and the perdition towers |
| 09:24.14 | Froznic | does it matter where you put actions? Like, lets say you wanted a sound to play after the game creates a timer and counts down but you want the sound to start at 5 seconds left.. any ideas how to make that happen? |
| 09:24.15 | FrozenFirebat | perd towers were awesome |
| 09:24.32 | FrozenFirebat | Froznic: A trigger plays actions in order |
| 09:25.06 | Motive | has anyone been able to alter the SC2Layout files yet? |
| 09:26.50 | LordAbyss | cya guys |
| 09:26.52 | FrozenFirebat | sooo annoying... I can't get a "click response" to fire |
| 09:26.58 | Sixen | later abyss |
| 09:27.41 | Rodrigo | another debates match starting soon |
| 09:27.45 | Rodrigo | if you want to join us add me |
| 09:27.48 | onetwo | Sixen |
| 09:27.48 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 09:27.49 | onetwo | what post on curse? |
| 09:27.50 | Rodrigo | ;) |
| 09:30.37 | Fisker | anyone recall how many probs you should have on mineral lines? |
| 09:31.09 | onetwo | 2 full rows on your command bar |
| 09:31.13 | onetwo | at minimum |
| 09:31.19 | onetwo | in a melee game |
| 09:35.03 | Fisker | *giggles* |
| 09:35.05 | Fisker | i'm a huge jerk |
| 09:35.06 | Motive | Lol |
| 09:35.08 | Motive | someone stole my map |
| 09:35.48 | Sixen | what map? :O |
| 09:36.07 | Motive | Cortex |
| 09:36.14 | Motive | some asshole just took two of the maps and republished them |
| 09:36.23 | Motive | I'm debating filing the DMCA takedown request just to see if it works |
| 09:36.24 | Motive | Lol |
| 09:36.32 | Motive | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/infringementnotice.html |
| 09:36.49 | onetwo | ahha |
| 09:36.53 | onetwo | sixen can you see what im typing |
| 09:36.56 | Sixen | huh, interesting |
| 09:36.59 | Sixen | yes, onetwo |
| 09:37.02 | onetwo | whats the post! |
| 09:37.02 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 09:37.31 | Sixen | what post? :O |
| 09:37.37 | onetwo | you said you were making a post to curse |
| 09:37.38 | onetwo | earlier |
| 09:37.41 | Sixen | oh right |
| 09:37.45 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/vykpx.jpg <-jerk move or jerk move? |
| 09:37.45 | ekcolnovkol | :O |
| 09:37.47 | Sixen | I told eckoevnoeveovneol i'd put SotiS up there |
| 09:37.58 | Penguinator36 | onetwo, are you onetwosc on youtube? |
| 09:37.59 | Sixen | cheese ftw |
| 09:38.01 | onetwo | yes |
| 09:38.02 | onetwo | and cool |
| 09:38.13 | FrozenFirebat | Fisker: if you let somebody do that... you deserve it |
| 09:38.17 | ekcolnovkol | i'm being pummeled with localization requests |
| 09:38.18 | Penguinator36 | cool I watched all your tutorials |
| 09:38.22 | onetwo | awesome :D |
| 09:38.26 | Fisker | FrozenFirebat i'm the one doing it |
| 09:38.33 | Fisker | i wonder why he didn't go for the pylon instead of my cannon |
| 09:38.34 | FrozenFirebat | well then he deserves it |
| 09:38.49 | Fisker | cannon wouldn't have warped in before the pylon would've gone down |
| 09:38.51 | FrozenFirebat | I wonder why he didn't scout the pylon when it was being built |
| 09:38.58 | Fisker | idk |
| 09:39.08 | Fisker | For some reason he kept all his overlords over the hatchery |
| 09:39.13 | Fisker | one was juuuust about to discover it |
| 09:39.16 | Fisker | then he called it back |
| 09:39.25 | FrozenFirebat | lol picking on noobs |
| 09:40.10 | Fisker | they're placement matches |
| 09:40.14 | Fisker | btw |
| 09:40.19 | onetwo | lol so im gonna have to work my way up from silver |
| 09:40.21 | Fisker | why would he build an evo chamber before spawning pool? |
| 09:40.26 | onetwo | i was stupid and played my placement matches on tuesday night |
| 09:40.31 | onetwo | and was basically only pros playing |
| 09:40.35 | FrozenFirebat | lol |
| 09:40.38 | onetwo | then yesterday i play 2 games in silver |
| 09:40.41 | onetwo | matched me against golds |
| 09:40.44 | onetwo | i had about double their score |
| 09:40.47 | onetwo | so wacko |
| 09:40.56 | onetwo | with 2 wins ^ |
| 09:41.05 | onetwo | oops sorry didnt mean to PM your wacko |
| 09:41.06 | onetwo | haha |
| 09:41.10 | onetwo | you* |
| 09:41.19 | onetwo | i dont know where to gauge my skill level |
| 09:41.21 | onetwo | at all yet |
| 09:41.27 | onetwo | editing has made me a lot worse |
| 09:41.31 | Fisker | can you share replays in any other meaningful way than by manually transfering the file? |
| 09:41.32 | onetwo | since editor came out basically |
| 09:41.33 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:41.41 | FrozenFirebat | when I played my first placement match I thought it would be an easy win... Almost... managed to get into his (protoss) base with lings and roaches early on, but he managed to micro just enough to keep me from destroying him... Eventually came down to a macro game, which I won |
| 09:41.49 | onetwo | nice |
| 09:41.50 | onetwo | haha |
| 09:42.31 | Motive | http://pastebin.com/kpGJnh8h |
| 09:42.33 | Motive | To send or not to send... |
| 09:43.21 | Sixen | I'd go for it |
| 09:43.23 | Sixen | This would be huge. |
| 09:43.38 | Motive | Well it wouldn't really be huge. But if it works it's a huge step in the right direction for map makers. |
| 09:43.49 | Sixen | that's what I said |
| 09:43.50 | Sixen | -_- |
| 09:43.58 | Motive | Meh, sent. |
| 09:44.01 | Motive | I'll let you know how it goes. |
| 09:44.06 | Sixen | Who'd you send it to? pr@blizz? |
| 09:44.09 | Motive | nah |
| 09:44.11 | Motive | copyright@blizzard.com |
| 09:44.15 | Sixen | fasho |
| 09:44.47 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 09:44.49 | Fisker | i r big jerk? |
| 09:45.12 | Fisker | You're forgetting something Motive!1 |
| 09:45.17 | Motive | What? :O |
| 09:45.23 | Fisker | you're not the copyright holder since the license says you aren't !1111 |
| 09:45.28 | Motive | Well |
| 09:45.28 | onetwo | threaten to pursue legal action with lawyers funded by your oh henry bar family fortune |
| 09:45.29 | onetwo | haha |
| 09:45.31 | Motive | lucky for me |
| 09:45.36 | Motive | I made the code for Cortex in TextEdit |
| 09:45.37 | Motive | :) |
| 09:45.39 | Motive | So it's mine |
| 09:45.39 | Motive | B |
| 09:45.50 | onetwo | textedit.exe? |
| 09:45.53 | Motive | TextEdit.app |
| 09:45.54 | Motive | Mac ftw. |
| 09:45.54 | Fisker | you don't need legal action anyway |
| 09:45.57 | onetwo | hAHAHa |
| 09:45.58 | onetwo | i got owned |
| 09:46.08 | Motive | It won't resort to a lawsuit, lol |
| 09:46.10 | Fisker | Blizzard is required to act on a DMCA request |
| 09:46.13 | Motive | exactly |
| 09:46.28 | Motive | Isaac could countersue but he's not going to because it's a SC2 map |
| 09:46.36 | Motive | and technically, it's mine anyways |
| 09:47.36 | Motive | and even if that did happen |
| 09:47.41 | Motive | what would be the damages in a court of law? |
| 09:47.44 | Motive | $0, it's a free Sc2 map |
| 09:47.44 | Motive | xD |
| 09:48.35 | Fisker | well you'd pay his legal fees :P |
| 09:48.54 | Motive | $20 |
| 09:48.55 | Motive | xD |
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| 09:51.22 | Motive | But yeah, if this does work, I'll let you guys know. Cause I'm sure I'm not the only one who's had a map stolen. |
| 09:51.29 | Motive | And it's very easy to file a DMCA takedown notice. |
| 09:51.48 | Fisker | so |
| 09:51.48 | ShadowTiger | nobody will steal my map since the patches broke it |
| 09:51.52 | ShadowTiger | : D |
| 09:52.03 | Fisker | lets see if they place me with some sick diamond league jerk since i just totally raped some n00b :P |
| 09:52.45 | Fisker | it's been at expanding search for a minute now |
| 09:53.02 | Motive | I raped newbs and got into Gold. Lol |
| 09:53.03 | Motive | I was shocked. |
| 09:53.05 | Motive | I suck at melee. |
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| 09:56.26 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/ by Beider |
| 09:58.23 | Fisker | lol |
| 09:59.13 | onetwo | one of my placements was against diamond |
| 09:59.18 | Fisker | i can't keep in my giggling Sixen |
| 09:59.29 | onetwo | i made the mistake of attempting an early toss expansion |
| 09:59.30 | onetwo | while he teched |
| 09:59.33 | onetwo | wasnt able to hold |
| 09:59.37 | onetwo | mutas+hydras = bane of my life |
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| 10:02.40 | Fisker | hurr hurr |
| 10:02.41 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/Qt97n.jpg |
| 10:02.49 | onetwo | oops i missed a pun there |
| 10:02.52 | onetwo | the baneling of my life* |
| 10:03.01 | onetwo | haha 2 gate |
| 10:03.04 | onetwo | i worry too much with that |
| 10:03.16 | onetwo | cause i know i can probably win over time |
| 10:03.20 | onetwo | but if your rush fails |
| 10:03.23 | onetwo | its demoralizing |
| 10:08.07 | Sevenation | LOL |
| 10:08.22 | onetwo | man so weird |
| 10:08.26 | onetwo | point defense drone's laser beam |
| 10:08.27 | onetwo | just wont work |
| 10:08.33 | onetwo | unless its set to target missile |
| 10:08.36 | onetwo | in actor |
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| 10:11.34 | Sixen | Motive, where'd you find that DMCA? |
| 10:11.36 | Rodrigo_ | STARTING A DEBATES MATCH in the next 10 minutes |
| 10:11.37 | Sixen | How'd youget to it? |
| 10:11.42 | Rodrigo_ | please, if you want to play, add me |
| 10:11.44 | Rodrigo_ | RODRIGO 881 |
| 10:11.45 | Motive | I googled for a DMCA example |
| 10:11.48 | Rodrigo_ | or give me ur character code |
| 10:11.50 | Motive | It's pretty standard |
| 10:11.55 | Rodrigo_ | Starting game soon!!!! |
| 10:12.12 | Sixen | I mean, how'd you get to it on Blizzard's website? |
| 10:12.35 | onetwo | nvm got it |
| 10:13.55 | Sevenation | Sixen, did you see my antiblock? :D |
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| 10:14.32 | Pierrot | Hi !! |
| 10:14.37 | Sixen | wut |
| 10:14.41 | Sixen | antiblock? |
| 10:14.42 | Sixen | Hai pierrot |
| 10:14.54 | Sevenation | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/5516-line-tower-wars/#p3 |
| 10:15.01 | Sixen | ooooooh |
| 10:15.07 | Sixen | antiblock. got it :) |
| 10:15.10 | Sevenation | haha |
| 10:15.20 | Sevenation | youtube video in the first post :P |
| 10:15.37 | Sevenation | Rodrigo did the game start already? |
| 10:15.38 | onetwo | lets hope you have anti block for gay youtube comments |
| 10:15.41 | onetwo | i get lots on my channel |
| 10:15.42 | onetwo | haha |
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| 10:15.54 | Sixen | that's sick |
| 10:15.59 | Sixen | lol |
| 10:16.02 | Sevenation | ? |
| 10:16.25 | Sevenation | gay youtube comments are comments too you know |
| 10:16.33 | onetwo | lol |
| 10:16.51 | onetwo | youtube comments are the lowest denominator of humanity atm |
| 10:17.22 | onetwo | picking random youtube vids right now |
| 10:17.24 | onetwo | "Screw hugs i have synthetic moose meat" |
| 10:17.29 | onetwo | "no but can you f*** me insted :D" |
| 10:17.52 | onetwo | "This is going to sound really emo, but my eyes are really pretty when I'm crying :L at least if I'm upset, there is something positive to remember :)" |
| 10:18.09 | Sevenation | I hate the "xx people missed the like button" |
| 10:18.10 | onetwo | "The worst drivers are black people because they're trying to outrun the cops AND the person whose car they stole." |
| 10:18.36 | Motive | Oh |
| 10:18.39 | Motive | I was browsing the map list |
| 10:18.45 | Motive | hit the iinspector thing on a map |
| 10:18.46 | Motive | for info |
| 10:18.50 | Motive | and it has "for copyright issues click here" |
| 10:18.52 | Motive | or something |
| 10:18.55 | onetwo | ooh |
| 10:19.46 | Pierrot | hey all i am looking for a tutorial teaching how we can set a Scroll combat text effect ? |
| 10:20.17 | Fisker | Sixen is a jeeeeeeeeerk |
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| 10:23.06 | Fisker | so Sixen |
| 10:23.07 | Penguinator36 | Is there a lava terrain somewhere? |
| 10:23.36 | Fisker | redstone |
| 10:24.05 | Fisker | or char |
| 10:34.55 | Froznic | how hard is it to make a dialog box option set a boolean to true? |
| 10:36.27 | Fisker | the hardest in the history of mankind? |
| 10:37.32 | Fisker | man |
| 10:37.37 | Fisker | so small that SC2 replays are |
| 10:37.42 | Fisker | give cloud storage |
| 10:37.43 | Fisker | nao |
| 10:38.03 | monoframe | Microsoft steps up: "Here you go *trollface*" |
| 10:38.09 | Fisker | :3? |
| 10:38.56 | monoframe | I thik it could be possible to create an application that would "link" your hdd folder with a server one |
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| 10:39.28 | monoframe | So that when you "paste" a file to a selected folder, it in fact would "paste", thus upload, the file to the server |
| 10:39.37 | Fisker | yeah |
| 10:39.42 | Fisker | they already have something like that |
| 10:39.45 | onetwo | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248295521 |
| 10:39.52 | Fisker | not sure how it would work with a 3rd party app though |
| 10:39.53 | monoframe | It steps out of normal linking across separate hdd parts |
| 10:40.02 | monoframe | Well, the app "would spot" |
| 10:40.07 | monoframe | or not |
| 10:40.25 | monoframe | there is an OS feature called "linking" |
| 10:40.36 | monoframe | by which you can link a folder to another one |
| 10:40.47 | monoframe | say you have a folder named "portals" on your C: drive |
| 10:41.05 | monoframe | you can make it so the folder "portal" on E: takes the files |
| 10:41.11 | monoframe | hard to explain s: |
| 10:41.44 | monoframe | So while the files are on the C: drive, you, and the system, see them to be on E: |
| 10:42.22 | monoframe | So with the net-linking, the files are seen on the drive, while, in fact, they are on the server |
| 10:42.27 | Fisker | when the psionic blades on a zealot says "Damage: 8 Attacks: 2" is it then 2 attacks for 8 damage(16 total) or 2 attacks for a total of 8 damage(4 each)? |
| 10:42.46 | monoframe | TO THE STARWIKIA |
| 10:42.47 | monoframe | ! |
| 10:42.51 | Fisker | NAW! |
| 10:43.48 | monoframe | I think it's 16 |
| 10:44.44 | Dogmai | lol @ onetwo's link |
| 10:45.34 | Sevenation | Debates is fun as hell lol |
| 10:47.21 | Dogmai | oh wow |
| 10:47.32 | Dogmai | now this is awesome |
| 10:47.49 | Dogmai | i just downloaded and looked at an rpg map that had custom experience |
| 10:47.55 | Dogmai | we wrote our scripts nearly exactly the same |
| 10:48.01 | Dogmai | except for the experience equation |
| 10:48.47 | vz | more equations, less invasions! |
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| 10:48.58 | Dogmai | lawl |
| 10:49.38 | Dogmai | his was simple, *2.25 mine was *2 +50 |
| 10:49.49 | Rodrigo | IM STARTING A DEBATES MATCH RIGHT NOW!!!! FULL HOUSE!!! |
| 10:49.55 | Rodrigo | IF YOU WANT TO JOIN ADD ME NOW |
| 10:49.58 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 10:50.03 | Rodrigo | STARTING RIGHT NOW |
| 10:50.06 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
| 10:50.08 | Rodrigo | bye |
| 10:50.20 | Froznic | must be full? |
| 10:50.21 | vz | o.o |
| 10:50.27 | Sevenation | started |
| 10:50.31 | Sevenation | stuck at loading though |
| 10:50.32 | Sevenation | :| |
| 10:50.36 | Froznic | lol k |
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| 10:52.18 | Sevenation | yup |
| 10:52.19 | Sevenation | still stuck |
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| 10:57.34 | Sevenation | anyone for debates? |
| 10:57.38 | Sevenation | add Sevenation, 105 |
| 10:59.50 | Dogmai | Are any other SEA users unable to post on the SEA forums? |
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| 11:09.48 | Penguinator36 | How do I make an upgrade effective automatically without having to research anything? Like say I want a marine to be able to use stim pack without researching it, how do I do that? |
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| 11:16.36 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Hati] by ChanServ |
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| 11:18.53 | Sixen | Motive, did you try reporting it? |
| 11:19.52 | Fisker | why should he report it? |
| 11:22.44 | Sixen | The map that someone stole. |
| 11:23.12 | Sevenation | Anyone know whwere maps are saved? |
| 11:23.16 | Sevenation | When you download them from bnet |
| 11:23.16 | monoframe | penguin, by removing dependencies |
| 11:23.30 | monoframe | Now StimPacks depend on the upgrade |
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| 11:24.07 | monoframe | Seven, in a very inconventional place |
| 11:24.31 | Sevenation | Which would be? |
| 11:24.36 | Fisker | Sixen the ticket system isn't the place to report copyright infringement, it even tells you that yourself |
| 11:24.39 | Megalon | documents ;x |
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| 11:25.33 | Sevenation | Documents? |
| 11:25.34 | Paras1te | o hai |
| 11:25.44 | monoframe | seven, what OS are you running? |
| 11:25.47 | Sevenation | 7 |
| 11:25.49 | Sevenation | lol |
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| 11:27.22 | Darkarbiter | hey guys |
| 11:27.28 | Darkarbiter | wow there's a lot of people here |
| 11:27.30 | Darkarbiter | I'm new |
| 11:27.33 | Sevenation | Welcome |
| 11:27.37 | Darkarbiter | I'm guessing I might be able to get editor help |
| 11:27.42 | Sevenation | @Mono: where? :P |
| 11:27.45 | Darkarbiter | cos there's a lot of stuff that really just isn't straightforward |
| 11:27.47 | Sevenation | probably |
| 11:27.56 | Darkarbiter | like, it took me 30 minutes to work out how to delete a unit |
| 11:28.21 | Sevenation | ...? |
| 11:28.25 | Sevenation | the delete key? |
| 11:28.26 | Fisker | i'm almost there Sixen |
| 11:28.30 | Fisker | omg i'm going to cum and what not |
| 11:28.34 | Dogmai | besy way is to just stuff around with the editor |
| 11:28.34 | Sevenation | LOL |
| 11:28.44 | Fisker | 2 matches to go |
| 11:28.48 | Darkarbiter | yeh |
| 11:28.49 | Darkarbiter | I guess |
| 11:28.52 | Dogmai | when i first looked at the editor i was like omg ... |
| 11:28.55 | Darkarbiter | triggers... confuse me a lot though |
| 11:28.56 | Dogmai | and now, its simple as pie |
| 11:29.00 | Dogmai | when your head gets around it |
| 11:29.05 | Darkarbiter | like I can't work out how to plain old give everyone full view of the map |
| 11:29.18 | Darkarbiter | I even tried giving a unit 999 vision but it didn't work |
| 11:30.38 | Darkarbiter | well if someone could walk me through how to do a TD at some stage that'd be good |
| 11:30.42 | Sixen | =X. |
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| 11:30.46 | Sixen | Acutally |
| 11:30.48 | Darkarbiter | as mentioned, triggers is confusing in some ways |
| 11:30.53 | Sixen | I think OneTwo made a "How to make a TD" tutorial, haha. |
| 11:31.00 | Darkarbiter | linkage? |
| 11:31.03 | Sixen | Sec. |
| 11:31.27 | Dogmai | okay |
| 11:31.30 | Dogmai | dark |
| 11:31.33 | Dogmai | i just found it |
| 11:31.34 | Dogmai | very easy |
| 11:31.34 | Sixen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBQjnT_96hQ |
| 11:31.36 | Dogmai | ready? |
| 11:31.44 | Dogmai | player group: for each player in all players |
| 11:31.55 | Darkarbiter | I actually can't watch it yet |
| 11:32.01 | Darkarbiter | cos I'm 200mb away from being capped |
| 11:32.02 | Fisker | omg omgo mgomgomg Sixen |
| 11:32.04 | Fisker | 1 match to go |
| 11:32.04 | Darkarbiter | but can watch tomorrow |
| 11:32.06 | Dogmai | visibility: auto-reveal entire map for player picked player when units are in entire map |
| 11:32.07 | Sixen | :( |
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| 11:32.12 | Sixen | ecevievbievbol |
| 11:32.13 | ekcolnvkol | ahahahahaha |
| 11:32.16 | Fisker | oh oh |
| 11:32.18 | ekcolnvkol | have you seen the listings |
| 11:32.19 | Sixen | My bro said he really hates having to hit esc :P |
| 11:32.23 | ekcolnvkol | wat |
| 11:32.26 | Fisker | the one i beat was silver league :D |
| 11:32.28 | Sixen | to close the shop |
| 11:32.33 | ekcolnvkol | why? |
| 11:32.38 | Darkarbiter | I know I can auto reveal the whole map if I put a region that's on the whole map |
| 11:32.41 | Darkarbiter | but that'd be messy |
| 11:32.41 | ekcolnvkol | it's driving me insane that people don't think hitting esc is a good idea |
| 11:32.53 | FrozenFirebat | I do, ekcolnvkol |
| 11:32.55 | Sixen | he was like, "why would I want half my screen to be covered while i'm trying to play?" |
| 11:32.57 | Dogmai | no |
| 11:33.02 | Dogmai | entire map as a region |
| 11:33.04 | Fisker | do not want gold league Sixen |
| 11:33.04 | Dogmai | not a region |
| 11:33.05 | ekcolnvkol | wat |
| 11:33.06 | Fisker | or diamond league |
| 11:33.07 | ekcolnvkol | so hit esc |
| 11:33.13 | ekcolnvkol | and it won't be covered |
| 11:33.28 | FrozenFirebat | lmao... Perhaps for "polish", make it so either Esc or Distance closes the shop? |
| 11:33.31 | Sixen | I suggest adding a "Close Shop" button |
| 11:33.36 | Sixen | I woudln't have thought to his close |
| 11:33.43 | Sixen | esc* |
| 11:33.47 | Sixen | Right, after you hit a certain distance, it should auto-close |
| 11:33.56 | ekcolnvkol | some people want to see the shop |
| 11:34.04 | ekcolnvkol | ugh i guess it was inevitable |
| 11:34.05 | ekcolnvkol | but jesus christ |
| 11:34.11 | Dogmai | Darkarbiter:: Visibility - Create a visibility revealer for player (Picked player) within (Entire map) |
| 11:34.15 | ekcolnvkol | oh by the way |
| 11:34.18 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tma-classic/. Team Micro Arena: Classic. Jackolas (Manager/Author), VeNoM5 (Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 11:34.22 | ekcolnvkol | we're right under EPIC ;) |
| 11:34.27 | ekcolnvkol | sneaking up on it |
| 11:34.30 | FrozenFirebat | ekcolnvkol: can't you put the shop details in the Help menu, so they can view it whenever, even if they can't interact? |
| 11:34.44 | ekcolnvkol | i guess i could do that |
| 11:34.53 | ekcolnvkol | but |
| 11:34.57 | FrozenFirebat | I haven't played your map, but that just sounds more polished |
| 11:35.02 | ekcolnvkol | esc |
| 11:35.03 | ekcolnvkol | ;( |
| 11:35.09 | Sevenation | Anyone know where maps that you download from bnet are saved? |
| 11:35.21 | Sixen | Sevenation: It's in my sticky in Custom Maps bnet forum |
| 11:35.21 | Sixen | ;) |
| 11:35.24 | Darkarbiter | Oh I see dogmai |
| 11:35.26 | Sevenation | haha thanks mate |
| 11:35.30 | Sixen | or... file > open > battle.net! |
| 11:35.32 | Darkarbiter | I didn't see entire map as an option |
| 11:35.32 | Sixen | in GE |
| 11:35.36 | Darkarbiter | only regions |
| 11:35.42 | Dogmai | i want to hit you on the head with something |
| 11:35.42 | Darkarbiter | although maybe it's like a submenu of region |
| 11:35.46 | Dogmai | go buy me a mallet |
| 11:35.46 | Darkarbiter | anyway |
| 11:35.51 | Dogmai | rubber or sledge, your choice :) |
| 11:36.03 | Darkarbiter | as in me? |
| 11:36.07 | Dogmai | yessssssss |
| 11:36.09 | Dogmai | cause i wuv u |
| 11:36.13 | Dogmai | and want to hit you :) |
| 11:36.15 | Darkarbiter | lol ok |
| 11:36.22 | Darkarbiter | wifebeater |
| 11:36.31 | FrozenFirebat | LOL... somebody link darkarbitor the "basic" tutorial on GE =P |
| 11:36.44 | Dogmai | hey, what happens in the bedroom stays in the bedroom |
| 11:36.47 | rrowland | huzzah |
| 11:36.49 | Dogmai | dont you go be sharing all our secrets in the open |
| 11:36.54 | rrowland | human kerrigan portrait |
| 11:37.01 | rrowland | all levels completed on brutal |
| 11:37.03 | Sixen | rrowlandmeister! |
| 11:37.04 | FrozenFirebat | lol... that was a well placed huzzah |
| 11:37.11 | Darkarbiter | anyone else on the realm with the annoying thai people |
| 11:37.11 | rrowland | in other news, 1 more achievement and I have 100% |
| 11:37.13 | Darkarbiter | aka SEA |
| 11:37.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster ubdead (~kvirc@5ee53e4e.dsl.concepts.nl) |
| 11:37.18 | rrowland | for campaign |
| 11:37.23 | FrozenFirebat | I got that too rrowland, working on getting the rest of the achievements and feats of strength done |
| 11:37.25 | Dogmai | not really mate |
| 11:37.26 | ubdead | miauw |
| 11:37.27 | Dogmai | the SEA forums are down |
| 11:37.32 | FrozenFirebat | ohh nice |
| 11:37.36 | Dogmai | cant post my complaint for blizzard |
| 11:37.38 | FrozenFirebat | I'm like 6 or 7 away from done |
| 11:37.39 | Darkarbiter | there's so few people playing custom maps here |
| 11:37.42 | rrowland | I just need to do the 8 hour normal campaign |
| 11:37.43 | Dogmai | i know |
| 11:37.47 | Dogmai | im working on my map |
| 11:37.50 | rrowland | And that's my last achievement |
| 11:37.51 | rrowland | 8) |
| 11:37.52 | Dogmai | but blizzard needs to fix something |
| 11:37.54 | Dogmai | before i can finish it |
| 11:38.02 | Dogmai | for the custom UI |
| 11:38.05 | rrowland | sup sixen |
| 11:38.09 | Dogmai | cause i spent 8 years scripting in wc3 |
| 11:38.21 | Dogmai | it was only a small learning curve for stareditor |
| 11:38.32 | Dogmai | but they messed up a part of the dialog ui |
| 11:38.38 | Darkarbiter | yeh... I really should've started with warcraft 3 |
| 11:38.43 | ekcolnvkol | lol sixen |
| 11:38.47 | ekcolnvkol | someone in one of my games |
| 11:38.52 | Darkarbiter | Yeh, what was with the campaign |
| 11:38.53 | ekcolnvkol | accused me of stealing code from Eul |
| 11:38.55 | Sixen | lol |
| 11:38.57 | rrowland | Achievements: 98% |
| 11:38.58 | Darkarbiter | 30 hours my asss |
| 11:38.58 | rrowland | :P |
| 11:38.59 | FrozenFirebat | I skipped Worldedit and I "grasp" GE fine |
| 11:39.02 | ekcolnvkol | i'm like |
| 11:39.05 | Sixen | rrowland, we should 2's |
| 11:39.07 | ekcolnvkol | how do i do that |
| 11:39.14 | Darkarbiter | GE? |
| 11:39.14 | Dogmai | hey ekcolnovkol |
| 11:39.15 | rrowland | Hmmmmm |
| 11:39.15 | Sixen | Because Eul made SOTIS, dur. |
| 11:39.16 | ubdead | lol |
| 11:39.19 | Sixen | GE == GalaxyEdit |
| 11:39.20 | ekcolnovkol | derp |
| 11:39.24 | Dogmai | be scared of when i come to the NA server |
| 11:39.24 | Darkarbiter | oh, right |
| 11:39.29 | rrowland | you mean lokvonlocke |
| 11:39.31 | Dogmai | i might give your map a run for it's money :P |
| 11:39.33 | Darkarbiter | I thought it was global events or something |
| 11:39.33 | ekcolnovkol | WE data doesn't port to GE |
| 11:39.34 | Fisker | HOLY FUCKING SHIT |
| 11:39.42 | Darkarbiter | dogmai is australian? |
| 11:39.46 | Dogmai | yeah mate |
| 11:39.50 | ubdead | OI |
| 11:39.52 | Dogmai | stuck on sea |
| 11:39.52 | ubdead | MATE |
| 11:39.55 | ubdead | CRICKEY |
| 11:39.56 | Dogmai | MATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 11:39.58 | ekcolnovkol | lol dogmai |
| 11:39.59 | Dogmai | hey |
| 11:40.01 | Dogmai | dont crikey me |
| 11:40.01 | Darkarbiter | has anyone tried |
| 11:40.01 | Fisker | ahahah |
| 11:40.03 | FrozenFirebat | Shrimps on the Barbey!!! |
| 11:40.04 | Fisker | this shit is bananas |
| 11:40.04 | ekcolnovkol | what map are you talking about |
| 11:40.05 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/1NFGo.jpg |
| 11:40.11 | Dogmai | the map im scripting |
| 11:40.14 | Darkarbiter | playing on the north american server (with a SEA install) with a north american guest pass |
| 11:40.17 | Dogmai | its not a dota clone |
| 11:40.18 | ekcolnovkol | specifically? |
| 11:40.20 | Sixen | lol fisker. |
| 11:40.20 | Dogmai | but something similar |
| 11:40.29 | ubdead | i think the australian accent is the worst accent in the world |
| 11:40.30 | ekcolnovkol | lol bring it on ;) |
| 11:40.31 | Fisker | i don't even dare playing now :D |
| 11:40.36 | Fisker | i'm going to get raped in platinum |
| 11:40.39 | Sixen | :P |
| 11:40.41 | Darkarbiter | ok seriously |
| 11:40.41 | Darkarbiter | that sortof accent |
| 11:40.43 | Fisker | but i got the damn achievement |
| 11:40.45 | Darkarbiter | is northern australian accent |
| 11:40.49 | Darkarbiter | no one likes queenslanders |
| 11:40.57 | Dogmai | hey ekcolnovkol, at least I can brag icefrog stole my ideas for dota when he beta tested my engine i wrote in 05 :P |
| 11:41.01 | ubdead | you're all queens |
| 11:41.09 | Darkarbiter | here in the civilised part of australia (melbourne) we have good accents |
| 11:41.12 | Fisker | wait what? |
| 11:41.15 | Dogmai | <<< sandgroper |
| 11:41.20 | Fisker | wasn't there an achievement for winning all 5 placement matches? |
| 11:41.24 | Dogmai | we think all you guys are kiwis |
| 11:41.27 | Dogmai | your close enough to them |
| 11:41.41 | Darkarbiter | I doubt it fisker |
| 11:41.47 | Sixen | ekcoeckoevjeol what was the link to the new sotis vid? |
| 11:41.51 | Darkarbiter | because that'd be impossible to ever achieve |
| 11:41.51 | FrozenFirebat | Dogmai: that's like bragging you got mugged and stabbed, but you're still alive as long as you stay plugged into a machine... |
| 11:41.54 | Darkarbiter | if you didn't |
| 11:41.55 | ekcolnovkol | uh |
| 11:41.55 | ekcolnovkol | sec |
| 11:41.56 | Darkarbiter | the first time round |
| 11:41.59 | ubdead | what do you call asains dogmai |
| 11:42.06 | Darkarbiter | there's a winning 5 times in a row achievement though |
| 11:42.08 | Sixen | got it, nvm |
| 11:42.19 | ekcolnovkol | http://www.youtube.com/user/TacticMove |
| 11:42.22 | Sixen | lol@basshunter |
| 11:42.27 | ekcolnovkol | yeah |
| 11:42.30 | ekcolnovkol | skibeladedota |
| 11:42.38 | Darkarbiter | ok I have 200mb left |
| 11:42.39 | Fisker | exactly Dark`Work |
| 11:42.44 | Fisker | but it was a feat of strength |
| 11:42.46 | Darkarbiter | if I use it up I'm capped for the next 2 hours |
| 11:42.47 | Fisker | or Darkarbiter * |
| 11:42.55 | Darkarbiter | so meh |
| 11:43.02 | ubdead | lol basshunter FAIl |
| 11:43.05 | Darkarbiter | what's some good tutorials to get started with the galaxy editor with? |
| 11:43.12 | Darkarbiter | I know how to make units, that's pretty much all |
| 11:43.13 | FrozenFirebat | Got Bassrolled? |
| 11:43.17 | rrowland | Mission one completed in 2:37 |
| 11:43.29 | ekcolnovkol | i keep getting raepd by pros playing my game q.q |
| 11:43.32 | Sixen | personally ecoekvoevekvoekool, you should get rid of the "other" forums on your site |
| 11:43.35 | ekcolnovkol | then people look at me funny |
| 11:43.47 | ekcolnovkol | it's just there to make the forum look bigger for now |
| 11:43.50 | Sixen | it's a new forum, looks like it's spread too thin |
| 11:43.52 | ubdead | lol |
| 11:43.53 | Sixen | don't want it to look big :P |
| 11:43.53 | ekcolnovkol | we're waiting on the foreign language seconds |
| 11:43.57 | Darkarbiter | watching the simple tower defence video |
| 11:44.03 | ekcolnovkol | *sections |
| 11:44.05 | ekcolnovkol | i have like |
| 11:44.06 | monoframe | I bet he also stuffs cotton into his undies P: |
| 11:44.12 | ekcolnovkol | 3 applicants for german, korean and chinese |
| 11:44.13 | monoframe | just to make it look "bigger" for now |
| 11:44.19 | Sixen | Nice |
| 11:44.20 | ubdead | btw, small note |
| 11:44.22 | Sixen | Do you have people who work on it? |
| 11:44.24 | ubdead | the level up animation |
| 11:44.25 | Sixen | Or it it just you? |
| 11:44.26 | ubdead | is kind of short |
| 11:44.33 | ekcolnovkol | still just me |
| 11:44.35 | Darkarbiter | brb |
| 11:44.37 | Sixen | I thought it was just you, but you keep saying... "us" and such |
| 11:44.38 | Sixen | :P |
| 11:44.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dogmai_ (~Ska@dsl-58-7-155-145.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 11:44.42 | Sixen | "we;re |
| 11:44.51 | ekcolnovkol | it's a marketing ploy ;) |
| 11:44.51 | ubdead | in the heat of action you'll miss getting a lvl up |
| 11:44.51 | Dogmai_ | did someone just dos me for those comments -_- |
| 11:45.02 | ekcolnovkol | but we do have people help in the form of bug reporting |
| 11:45.06 | ekcolnovkol | so i can adequately say "we" |
| 11:45.12 | Sixen | :P |
| 11:45.18 | ubdead | lol |
| 11:45.20 | ekcolnovkol | bug reporting, localization, forum and site management, translations |
| 11:45.24 | Dogmai_ | anyways, as I was gonna say |
| 11:45.29 | ubdead | no no it's like the royal plurar |
| 11:45.34 | ekcolnovkol | i pull it all together, but i have some people take care of this and that |
| 11:45.34 | ubdead | plural* |
| 11:45.36 | Dogmai_ | it would be pretty awesome if there was non-identical dota clones on each server |
| 11:45.43 | ekcolnovkol | dogmai |
| 11:45.48 | Dogmai | yea mate |
| 11:45.49 | kruno | after taking away my dark templar's perma-cloak from his command card, why is he still perma-cloaked? |
| 11:45.49 | ekcolnovkol | sotis goes international in 3 days |
| 11:45.52 | ekcolnovkol | :D |
| 11:45.55 | Dogmai | haha |
| 11:45.57 | Dogmai | dont worry |
| 11:46.00 | Dogmai | im in no rush |
| 11:46.05 | Dogmai | as i said, im only doing UI |
| 11:46.12 | Dogmai | thats why i said i can be help to you if you want it |
| 11:46.15 | Dogmai | i would rather work in a team |
| 11:46.17 | Dogmai | cause i got my girl |
| 11:46.18 | ekcolnovkol | let me know when you finish |
| 11:46.20 | ekcolnovkol | i need |
| 11:46.23 | ekcolnovkol | some UI improvements |
| 11:46.26 | ekcolnovkol | namely for the inventory |
| 11:46.27 | Dogmai | no mate |
| 11:46.31 | Dogmai | you really have no fucken idea |
| 11:46.33 | Dogmai | how good my UI is |
| 11:46.39 | ubdead | rofl |
| 11:46.43 | ekcolnovkol | :o |
| 11:46.46 | ubdead | screenshots or it didnt happen |
| 11:46.47 | Dogmai | im working for a company that is under contract with activision |
| 11:46.56 | Dogmai | < lead designer |
| 11:46.57 | Dogmai | :P |
| 11:47.00 | ubdead | son of a |
| 11:47.03 | Fisker | btw Sixen |
| 11:47.06 | ekcolnovkol | oh rally |
| 11:47.06 | Fisker | that guy was pretty stupid |
| 11:47.08 | ekcolnovkol | hm |
| 11:47.11 | ekcolnovkol | site? |
| 11:47.13 | Fisker | he blocked his way with like 5 gateways |
| 11:47.17 | ubdead | dogmai, ill hunt you down and force you to work on my maps |
| 11:47.19 | Dogmai | ... nda |
| 11:47.26 | Dogmai | non-disclosure agreement |
| 11:47.26 | rrowland | Mission 2 complete in 2:10 |
| 11:47.33 | ubdead | pfff sissy |
| 11:47.39 | ekcolnovkol | yeah but your company at least should have a site.. x .x |
| 11:47.41 | Paras1te | OMG!! "Tracker is not responding"! 7.07/7.08 GB... |
| 11:47.41 | Dogmai | the project isnt even announced yet |
| 11:47.54 | Dogmai | but its not anything revolutionary |
| 11:47.57 | ubdead | lol downloading the game? |
| 11:48.01 | ubdead | turn off P2P |
| 11:48.03 | Paras1te | yup... |
| 11:48.08 | ubdead | you'll get a direct HTTP |
| 11:48.11 | Dogmai | the thing is, its kind of a double edge sword |
| 11:48.16 | Dogmai | if i post a screenshot or video of my UI |
| 11:48.29 | Paras1te | gonna try that |
| 11:48.30 | ubdead | im just screwing with ya |
| 11:48.35 | Dogmai | it will be duplicated like a bangkok hooker not on the pill |
| 11:48.39 | ekcolnovkol | which only goes to show that it takes a company to take me down >:B |
| 11:48.43 | ubdead | ME LOVE YOU LONG TIME |
| 11:48.45 | Dogmai | if i dont, i cant say anything :) |
| 11:48.47 | ekcolnovkol | cackles |
| 11:48.56 | Dogmai | lawl |
| 11:49.02 | Darkarbiter | so what's the difference between when a bankok hooker duplicates and replicates? |
| 11:49.05 | Dogmai | but there is a flaw with my UI |
| 11:49.13 | ubdead | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOGm0P8VqPI |
| 11:49.16 | Dogmai | because starcraft doesnt let you assign hotkeys to buttons |
| 11:49.16 | ubdead | i loved that song |
| 11:49.25 | Dogmai | and because when you hide the game UI |
| 11:49.29 | Dogmai | it disables abilities |
| 11:49.36 | Dogmai | (hotkeys) |
| 11:49.42 | ubdead | movie* |
| 11:49.49 | Dogmai | theres no point, it cannot be successfullly implemented into a map |
| 11:49.53 | Dogmai | the A hotkey, S |
| 11:49.56 | Dogmai | all stops working |
| 11:50.08 | ekcolnovkol | mm |
| 11:50.16 | Dogmai | now, there is a work around |
| 11:50.20 | Dogmai | for instance, when player presses S |
| 11:50.31 | Dogmai | unit selected by player owned by player issue stop |
| 11:50.33 | Dogmai | right |
| 11:50.38 | Dogmai | but attack is a bigger problem |
| 11:50.55 | ekcolnovkol | because of auto-acquisition? |
| 11:51.12 | Dogmai | no, because of targeting |
| 11:51.12 | ubdead | dogmai |
| 11:51.16 | ekcolnovkol | ah |
| 11:51.19 | Dogmai | like press A then get that attack curser |
| 11:51.21 | Dogmai | cursor |
| 11:51.23 | Dogmai | yea mate |
| 11:51.29 | ubdead | you might want to hide each individual part of the UI one by one |
| 11:51.30 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/NFr4h.jpg <-he should've built a forge and put like 2-3 cannons behind the gateway instead |
| 11:51.34 | ubdead | that doesnt disable the hotkeys |
| 11:51.34 | Dogmai | it cant be done |
| 11:51.40 | Dogmai | you cant hide the bar |
| 11:51.44 | ubdead | oh |
| 11:51.47 | ubdead | ma bad |
| 11:51.50 | Dogmai | without hiding the whole thing |
| 11:51.52 | Dogmai | its all good mate |
| 11:51.56 | Dogmai | ive spent 4 days with the UI |
| 11:52.13 | ubdead | hey |
| 11:52.15 | Dogmai | and then there is the minimap |
| 11:52.24 | Dogmai | so at the moment, i have an ugly beast of a map |
| 11:52.26 | Dogmai | which technically works |
| 11:52.27 | ubdead | i can do a lobby hero selection depending on mode kind of thing |
| 11:52.29 | Dogmai | but looks like shit |
| 11:52.39 | Dogmai | whats that |
| 11:52.43 | Dogmai | @ ubdead |
| 11:52.43 | ubdead | well |
| 11:52.50 | ubdead | thinking about it |
| 11:52.55 | ubdead | it's a bad idea anyway |
| 11:52.59 | Paras1te | So nothing wrong happens if I install another StarCraft 2 in different directory? |
| 11:53.09 | ubdead | because you cant see any info about the hero you would pick |
| 11:53.15 | ubdead | my idea was |
| 11:53.31 | Dogmai | why is divide by zero a bloody trigger error damnit |
| 11:53.48 | ubdead | you how you can set the AI difficulty in the lobby? well in the same way you could choose your hero |
| 11:54.20 | ubdead | just like the mode and such, like APEM AREM, WTFMODE etc. |
| 11:54.34 | ubdead | basicly game/player attributes |
| 11:54.42 | ubdead | i think they're awesome |
| 11:54.44 | Dogmai | yeah |
| 11:54.58 | Dogmai | but i think that would be better handled in game |
| 11:54.59 | ubdead | because thats how BNET2.0 was designed |
| 11:55.10 | Dogmai | using dialogs, in reference to hero selection |
| 11:55.15 | Dogmai | but modes could be done |
| 11:55.28 | ubdead | i liked the tavern system from dota tbh |
| 11:55.30 | Dogmai | but what happens if i want to do dummaremidsc |
| 11:55.56 | ubdead | come again |
| 11:56.52 | Dogmai | if i want to do a large combination of game modes |
| 11:56.59 | Dogmai | not just ar or ap or arem or apem |
| 11:57.06 | Wihl | I know pretty much nothing about maps but I have a question anyway, is there anything that stops maps from being able to "restart" |
| 11:57.08 | ubdead | oh right, thats no problem |
| 11:57.11 | Wihl | say you play an rpg to the end |
| 11:57.17 | ubdead | you could add multiple game fields |
| 11:57.23 | Wihl | and you being able to type -reset and it would clear everything |
| 11:57.24 | ubdead | so Mode1: mode2: mode3: |
| 11:57.28 | ubdead | and it would combine them |
| 11:57.28 | Wihl | just as if you had just started the map |
| 11:57.46 | ubdead | well wihl |
| 11:57.49 | Wihl | I've seen some be like that but i've always wondered why they're not all like that |
| 11:57.52 | ubdead | that's possible |
| 11:57.59 | ubdead | but you can pre-place anything |
| 11:58.06 | ubdead | you'd have to place everything using triggers |
| 11:58.21 | Dogmai | no point to use commands now |
| 11:58.24 | Dogmai | like -reset |
| 11:58.29 | Dogmai | do everything via UI |
| 11:58.38 | Wihl | Dogmai - yeah was just an example |
| 11:58.49 | ubdead | so wihl |
| 11:58.53 | ubdead | you would have a big trigger |
| 11:58.57 | ubdead | placing EVERYTHING |
| 11:58.58 | Dogmai | mate |
| 11:59.03 | ubdead | and then when you finish |
| 11:59.07 | Dogmai | ive just done basic UI without any menus or anything |
| 11:59.11 | Dogmai | and the triggers are half a meg |
| 11:59.11 | Dogmai | :P |
| 11:59.21 | ubdead | you'd remove every1 object |
| 11:59.22 | Dogmai | dont talk to me about long scripts :) |
| 11:59.33 | ubdead | and then fire the place everything trigger again |
| 11:59.37 | ubdead | and reset all the vars |
| 11:59.52 | Wihl | ubdead - guess it would be easier if the map was designed with the ground up with that feature in mind then |
| 12:00.00 | ubdead | thats for sure |
| 12:00.24 | Dogmai | that is simple common sense |
| 12:00.28 | Dogmai | always plan in advance |
| 12:00.31 | Dogmai | do everything on paper |
| 12:00.36 | Dogmai | so you dont rewrite code later on |
| 12:01.31 | Dogmai | @ ekcolnovkol, dont expect my map to take on yours any time soon, its all just UI design etc, I am just writing an engine that could be dropped into any other map |
| 12:01.36 | Fisker | so |
| 12:01.41 | Fisker | how long will you keep being in platinum? :D |
| 12:02.26 | ubdead | i joined 5 games |
| 12:02.28 | ubdead | 4vs4 |
| 12:02.34 | ubdead | and all my team mates instantly quit |
| 12:02.42 | ubdead | so now im in bronze |
| 12:02.46 | ubdead | ffffuuuuu.gif |
| 12:03.09 | Fisker | xD |
| 12:03.33 | ubdead | well, i guess i could have some fun in bronze :D |
| 12:03.44 | ubdead | thor drop and what not |
| 12:03.52 | ubdead | planetary rush |
| 12:03.54 | ubdead | lol |
| 12:04.16 | Dogmai | ubdead |
| 12:04.18 | ubdead | i think it would be very healthy to have 2 dota-style maps compete |
| 12:04.19 | Dogmai | what server are you on |
| 12:04.21 | ubdead | EU |
| 12:04.27 | Dogmai | ah shitcake |
| 12:04.28 | Dogmai | s |
| 12:04.33 | ubdead | CRICKEY| |
| 12:05.48 | Dogmai | i dont want to be a dota rip off |
| 12:05.55 | Dogmai | i think that is a mistake a lot of people are making |
| 12:06.00 | Dogmai | is that they are just trying to clone dota |
| 12:06.05 | Dogmai | things will be different on starcraft |
| 12:06.08 | Dogmai | each should be unique |
| 12:06.12 | ubdead | sigh thats what im telling you, a dota STYLE map :P |
| 12:06.30 | Dogmai | yeah, but styled how much :P |
| 12:06.32 | monoframe | just state an AoS map |
| 12:06.33 | Dogmai | just hero siege? |
| 12:06.38 | Dogmai | there you go |
| 12:06.38 | Dogmai | ha |
| 12:06.39 | ubdead | ya bloody jumbuck |
| 12:06.55 | Dogmai | yousa sound half aussie |
| 12:07.30 | ubdead | dont make me liquid laugh calling me that |
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| 12:08.57 | ubdead | so what's your idea for a ridgy-didge dota |
| 12:09.18 | Dogmai | nothing |
| 12:09.27 | Dogmai | just what i would want that type of game to be like |
| 12:09.32 | Dogmai | similar style gameplay |
| 12:09.39 | Dogmai | a few more features that i would like in there |
| 12:09.44 | Dogmai | and bloody good design |
| 12:09.53 | ubdead | too right |
| 12:10.25 | Dogmai | im not trying to reinvent the wheel, or say my map is best |
| 12:10.27 | ubdead | map without a good design isn't worth a zack |
| 12:10.33 | Dogmai | i would just like to make something i would like to play |
| 12:10.52 | ubdead | (can you actually understand what i'm saying) |
| 12:11.12 | Dogmai | i do speak swine |
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| 12:11.21 | ubdead | http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html |
| 12:11.23 | ubdead | lol |
| 12:11.42 | Dogmai | as i said |
| 12:11.44 | Dogmai | i speak swine |
| 12:12.00 | ubdead | nice ^_^ |
| 12:12.11 | Dogmai | not as good as my dad though |
| 12:12.15 | ubdead | i gotta hand it to the australians they can make up some funny words |
| 12:12.19 | Dogmai | he can speak with his mates in swine so thick |
| 12:12.22 | Dogmai | i cant even understand it |
| 12:12.24 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 12:12.32 | ubdead | Technicolor yawn : vomit |
| 12:12.36 | ubdead | im going to use that |
| 12:12.42 | ubdead | thats frikkin awesome |
| 12:13.15 | ubdead | ohhh i remember a friend of mine |
| 12:13.20 | ubdead | he's from australia |
| 12:13.23 | ubdead | and he's like |
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| 12:13.28 | ubdead | have you seen my thongs |
| 12:13.35 | ubdead | im like "YOUR WHAT?" |
| 12:13.39 | ubdead | my thongs mate |
| 12:13.46 | Dogmai | flipflops eh] |
| 12:13.49 | ubdead | turn out, thongs are slippers |
| 12:13.50 | ubdead | right lol |
| 12:13.54 | Dogmai | oh my god |
| 12:13.58 | Dogmai | your worst than the yanks |
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| 12:14.19 | ubdead | xD |
| 12:16.23 | ubdead | brb food |
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| 12:27.14 | Darkarbiter | well personally |
| 12:27.20 | Darkarbiter | I wanna make maps for the credit |
| 12:27.22 | Darkarbiter | lets be honest here |
| 12:28.09 | Dogmai | why |
| 12:28.22 | Dogmai | i was probably the greatest map maker that never released a map on wc3 |
| 12:28.24 | monoframe | You don't make "maps for credit", you make MODS for credits |
| 12:28.29 | Dogmai | all my maps stayed in alpha and beta |
| 12:28.37 | monoframe | ja ja ja |
| 12:28.46 | Dogmai | the same as every other map maker in wc3 |
| 12:28.46 | Dogmai | :P |
| 12:29.05 | monoframe | so, in reality, every wc3 mapper is a great and awesome mapper? |
| 12:29.06 | monoframe | :P |
| 12:29.11 | Dogmai | something like that |
| 12:29.16 | Dogmai | i just did it because i like scripting |
| 12:29.23 | Darkarbiter | no, credit, not credits |
| 12:29.24 | Dogmai | i like figuring out the equations to make maps work |
| 12:29.25 | monoframe | While SC2 mapper is a snazzy credit seeker? |
| 12:29.26 | Dogmai | its relaxing |
| 12:29.39 | Darkarbiter | well personally I like being obsessive and the finer details |
| 12:29.43 | Darkarbiter | so hopefully that involves finishing things |
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| 12:30.00 | Dogmai | you know |
| 12:30.04 | Dogmai | most people start with heros right |
| 12:30.08 | Dogmai | they think that heros make a game |
| 12:30.23 | Darkarbiter | was not a fan of heroes in warcraft 3 |
| 12:30.24 | Dogmai | if they make an awesome hero people will play their game |
| 12:30.33 | Darkarbiter | it's funny |
| 12:30.34 | Dogmai | its the gameplay, the uniqueness of it |
| 12:30.36 | Dogmai | that captures people |
| 12:30.37 | Darkarbiter | warcraft 3 melee was just like |
| 12:30.42 | Dogmai | see dota-allstars won because it had sound |
| 12:30.44 | monoframe | awesome heroes don't make a game |
| 12:30.44 | Dogmai | srsly |
| 12:30.56 | Dogmai | exactly mono |
| 12:31.02 | Dogmai | its the size of your epenor that makes a game |
| 12:31.05 | Dogmai | O_O |
| 12:31.09 | Darkarbiter | spam some strategy that noobs don't know how to counter (druid of claw spam vs orcs, or secret raiders v.s. nelfs) |
| 12:31.15 | monoframe | chat!=map |
| 12:31.15 | Darkarbiter | and expand, take enemy expansions |
| 12:31.17 | monoframe | so no |
| 12:31.24 | Darkarbiter | enemies don't care about expansions... just their heroes lol |
| 12:31.35 | Darkarbiter | it's like... oh you have 3 expansions meh |
| 12:31.39 | Darkarbiter | HAHA I JUST KILLED UR HERO |
| 12:31.59 | Darkarbiter | I hate dota, but I don't mind battle tanks |
| 12:32.04 | Darkarbiter | even though it's basically the same idea |
| 12:32.34 | Darkarbiter | dota won cos all the asians played it |
| 12:32.40 | Darkarbiter | seriously, it's like the second opium |
| 12:33.19 | monoframe | well, mostly cause of constant updates |
| 12:34.09 | ubdead | lol |
| 12:34.13 | Darkarbiter | why did constant updates help? |
| 12:34.15 | ubdead | anyway |
| 12:34.18 | Darkarbiter | doesn't that just mean even more downloading |
| 12:34.20 | Dogmai | yeah |
| 12:34.21 | ubdead | i dont make maps for the credits |
| 12:34.22 | Dogmai | people get bored |
| 12:34.30 | monoframe | Other maps, not having a large playerbase which in terms contributing ideas/possible changes, are left out by their makers |
| 12:34.30 | Dogmai | maps like dota continually need to be refined |
| 12:34.32 | Darkarbiter | so how does the starcraft 2 map system work |
| 12:34.36 | Dogmai | that is why no one can take on dota |
| 12:34.40 | Dogmai | they have 7 years of balancing |
| 12:34.48 | ubdead | i just enjoy seeing people enjoying my map |
| 12:34.49 | Darkarbiter | you make map, upload it (does it need approval)? |
| 12:35.09 | Darkarbiter | spend 45435645 years trying to make it popular which is based on unique players per day or is it per week |
| 12:35.32 | Darkarbiter | how easy is it to get out a new version? |
| 12:36.09 | ubdead | i hope the popularity system changes real soon :( |
| 12:36.18 | Darkarbiter | the way it should be is |
| 12:36.19 | ubdead | people wont go past the first 2 pages |
| 12:36.27 | Darkarbiter | 3 options |
| 12:36.27 | Lasion | does a massive facepalm |
| 12:36.30 | Darkarbiter | Maps you have downloaded |
| 12:36.34 | Darkarbiter | New maps |
| 12:36.35 | Darkarbiter | and Both |
| 12:36.37 | Lasion | I have a typo in my project D: |
| 12:36.58 | ubdead | well done |
| 12:36.59 | Darkarbiter | (New maps being maps you don't have) |
| 12:37.07 | Darkarbiter | What's with the no chat channels in bnet as well |
| 12:37.13 | Darkarbiter | like... ok no default ones maybe |
| 12:37.18 | Darkarbiter | but there should definitely be clan chat |
| 12:37.19 | Darkarbiter | and clans |
| 12:37.26 | ubdead | well they are still working on it i guess |
| 12:37.32 | ubdead | atleast thats what their saying |
| 12:37.34 | Darkarbiter | means things MUST be done out of game |
| 12:37.40 | Darkarbiter | oh ok, I thought it was deliberate |
| 12:38.06 | Darkarbiter | I can understand not releasing a basic clan system then switching I guess |
| 12:38.09 | Darkarbiter | well it better be good |
| 12:38.25 | ubdead | well they did do it deliberatly i guess, but then the entire community was like "whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?" |
| 12:38.46 | ubdead | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad3Hzsy1-20 |
| 12:38.49 | ubdead | like that |
| 12:39.25 | Dogmai | im wearing a stewie shirt right now |
| 12:39.31 | Dogmai | being bad is part of my charm |
| 12:39.33 | Dogmai | <3 |
| 12:39.48 | ubdead | *coughnerdcough* |
| 12:39.57 | Dogmai | ha |
| 12:40.01 | Dogmai | i love my stewie shirt |
| 12:40.10 | Dogmai | its the only shirt i have that actually has a picture on it |
| 12:40.21 | Dogmai | all the rest are just designs or blank |
| 12:40.22 | Darkarbiter | so basically atm |
| 12:40.27 | Darkarbiter | making maps involves |
| 12:40.30 | Darkarbiter | having giant friends list |
| 12:40.32 | Darkarbiter | or death |
| 12:41.04 | ubdead | no chat, community was like : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NefM2gVo9mw |
| 12:42.52 | Darkarbiter | so does blizzard approve maps first or are they up right away when you publish them? |
| 12:43.24 | Fisker | i won a 2v2 as well :( |
| 12:43.29 | Fisker | i'm apparently better than i think |
| 12:43.46 | Dogmai | haha |
| 12:43.47 | Dogmai | finally |
| 12:43.53 | Dogmai | got rid of that stupid divide by zero error |
| 12:43.59 | Dogmai | why is that even an error |
| 12:44.16 | Dogmai | if X != 0 do it otherwise, stfu error |
| 12:44.26 | Darkarbiter | lol |
| 12:44.26 | Fisker | because you attempted to divide by zero? |
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| 12:44.28 | ubdead | well |
| 12:44.35 | ubdead | because it's mathmatical incorrect |
| 12:44.40 | ubdead | it's an error |
| 12:44.45 | Darkarbiter | it's not error |
| 12:44.48 | Darkarbiter | it's undefined |
| 12:45.07 | Dogmai | it comes up as an error |
| 12:45.11 | Dogmai | when you are in game |
| 12:45.15 | Dogmai | trigger error divide by zero |
| 12:45.27 | Dogmai | divide by zero is zero |
| 12:45.28 | Dogmai | duh |
| 12:45.36 | Darkarbiter | uh... no |
| 12:45.44 | Dogmai | no? |
| 12:45.47 | Darkarbiter | generally if you divide a number by itself it's 1 |
| 12:45.51 | Penguinator36 | did you really just say that dogmai? |
| 12:45.53 | Dogmai | 5x0 = 0 |
| 12:45.57 | Penguinator36 | LOL |
| 12:45.58 | Penguinator36 | no |
| 12:46.00 | Penguinator36 | it is not |
| 12:46.01 | Dogmai | oh wait |
| 12:46.02 | Dogmai | wtf |
| 12:46.04 | Darkarbiter | but... division can also be seen as how many times you can put a number into itself before going over it |
| 12:46.07 | Dogmai | what the fuck did i just say |
| 12:46.12 | Darkarbiter | so therefore dividing 0 by 0 =infinity |
| 12:46.18 | Dogmai | yeah |
| 12:46.19 | Dogmai | um |
| 12:46.24 | Dogmai | you can use that mallet to hit me now |
| 12:46.24 | Darkarbiter | but... it can also be seen as how many you need to reach that number |
| 12:46.34 | Darkarbiter | which is 1... but you don't need that at all so it's 0 |
| 12:46.35 | Dogmai | ive had 5 hours sleep a night since sc was released |
| 12:46.39 | ubdead | you guys are silly |
| 12:46.42 | Darkarbiter | so its 0, 1 and infinity all at the same time |
| 12:46.49 | Dogmai | yeah i know |
| 12:46.50 | ubdead | zero isnt a number |
| 12:46.52 | Dogmai | end of the universe |
| 12:46.54 | ubdead | it the lack of value |
| 12:46.56 | Darkarbiter | zero is a number |
| 12:46.59 | ubdead | it's not |
| 12:47.05 | Dogmai | my mother is a number |
| 12:47.06 | Darkarbiter | undefined is not a number |
| 12:47.09 | Darkarbiter | 0 is a number |
| 12:47.11 | ubdead | it's not |
| 12:47.29 | Darkarbiter | look at other things that aren't numbers |
| 12:47.34 | Darkarbiter | 0 definitely is a number |
| 12:48.16 | ubdead | well you might think it is |
| 12:48.17 | Dogmai | fuck |
| 12:48.19 | ubdead | but it's not |
| 12:48.20 | Dogmai | i hate it when im a dumbass |
| 12:48.33 | Dogmai | ive been sitting here for the last 2 minutes wondering why part of my UI isnt showing up |
| 12:48.37 | Darkarbiter | how is it not a number? |
| 12:48.45 | Dogmai | before i realise i left the bool value to false |
| 12:48.45 | Darkarbiter | even look on a calculator |
| 12:48.47 | Dogmai | for it to show |
| 12:48.50 | Darkarbiter | 0/0 =not a number |
| 12:48.54 | Darkarbiter | not a number does not equal 0 |
| 12:48.57 | ubdead | well thats because you need the 0 to make 10 |
| 12:49.25 | Darkarbiter | depends on what base you're working with |
| 12:49.27 | deathnight114 | damnit. |
| 12:49.29 | ubdead | give me a sum where the 0 actually does something |
| 12:49.30 | Darkarbiter | you don't need a 0 to make ten in hex |
| 12:49.36 | deathnight114 | I cant figure out how to get this done :\ |
| 12:49.52 | deathnight114 | I want it so that when i build a zealot in region 3, it kills the zealot then modifies a variable |
| 12:49.55 | Darkarbiter | 5x0=0 |
| 12:49.58 | Darkarbiter | it does something |
| 12:49.59 | monoframe | hmm |
| 12:50.04 | deathnight114 | However i dont want it to kill my gateway my pylon or my probe |
| 12:50.10 | ubdead | no thats just saying, 5 times nothing is still nothing |
| 12:50.12 | Darkarbiter | if it wasn't there it'd be 1 and it'd be 5X x = 5x |
| 12:50.32 | Darkarbiter | 5 times x = 5x |
| 12:50.37 | Darkarbiter | insert 0, makes it 0 |
| 12:50.41 | Darkarbiter | insert 1, makes it 5 |
| 12:51.11 | Darkarbiter | Not only does it do something |
| 12:51.17 | depthsofchaos | ubdead are you retarded ?:o |
| 12:51.24 | depthsofchaos | did you skip high school? |
| 12:51.25 | Darkarbiter | but I'm pretty sure you don't define what is and isn't a number by whether it does something or not |
| 12:51.29 | ubdead | just having an argument for arguments sake lol |
| 12:51.31 | Penguinator36 | ZERO IS A NUMBER |
| 12:51.31 | Penguinator36 | http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/63315.html |
| 12:51.47 | deathnight114 | hello? |
| 12:51.50 | deathnight114 | Can anyone help me? |
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| 12:51.51 | depthsofchaos | a number isnt something you define |
| 12:51.52 | Dogmai | ... |
| 12:51.54 | Dogmai | well |
| 12:51.54 | depthsofchaos | theres no arguement |
| 12:51.56 | Darkarbiter | zero isn't a number... if you live in the medieval age |
| 12:52.05 | Darkarbiter | the dirty arabs invented it |
| 12:52.07 | monoframe | Zero defines an amount |
| 12:52.18 | ubdead | no |
| 12:52.23 | monoframe | like all other numbers |
| 12:52.24 | Dogmai | As I saw on an internet image 13 years ago |
| 12:52.24 | Penguinator36 | yes |
| 12:52.25 | ubdead | zero defines there's no amount |
| 12:52.25 | monoframe | OH YES IT DOES |
| 12:52.39 | monoframe | so it defines a variable of amount |
| 12:52.41 | monoframe | no amount |
| 12:52.42 | Dogmai | Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win your still retarded. |
| 12:52.46 | monoframe | still of same |
| 12:52.49 | depthsofchaos | 0 defines 0 amount O.o |
| 12:52.51 | Penguinator36 | yes, zero defines a lack of amount, which is still defining something |
| 12:52.52 | monoframe | amount is no amount |
| 12:53.00 | monoframe | How hard is it to grasp? |
| 12:53.06 | ubdead | guys ima finish trolling now and start mapping again lol |
| 12:53.08 | Darkarbiter | 0 does not equal nothing |
| 12:53.20 | depthsofchaos | do better trolling next time :o |
| 12:53.24 | Dogmai | Zero is actually both a number and not a number at the same time. Kind of like having sex with your best friend's mum. |
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| 12:53.31 | Darkarbiter | well how much of something |
| 12:53.33 | Penguinator36 | ...what? |
| 12:53.35 | Darkarbiter | is the square root of negative 2 |
| 12:53.48 | ubdead | you cant square negatives |
| 12:53.54 | depthsofchaos | you can :o |
| 12:53.54 | monoframe | ohlol |
| 12:53.57 | rrowland | Yes you can |
| 12:53.58 | Penguinator36 | yes you can... |
| 12:54.00 | monoframe | l2math |
| 12:54.09 | Dogmai | Base 12 maths |
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| 12:54.18 | Dogmai | Is so much better than base 10 |
| 12:54.20 | ubdead | learn2stop getting trolled lol |
| 12:54.23 | saphion | hi |
| 12:54.24 | Dogmai | it is what allows stargates to function |
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| 12:54.31 | Dogmai | YOUSE TROLLING |
| 12:54.31 | Darkarbiter | base preteen maths is so much better than base 12 maths |
| 12:54.40 | monoframe | Dogmai, that was "l" not "1" |
| 12:54.42 | ubdead | i learned from my queen |
| 12:54.42 | monoframe | :P |
| 12:54.43 | saphion | can i know how to add custom maps to starcraft 2?? |
| 12:54.51 | Darkarbiter | no |
| 12:54.52 | Dogmai | the game |
| 12:54.59 | Darkarbiter | lolnah |
| 12:55.07 | Dogmai | you just lost it |
| 12:55.07 | monoframe | You can add them |
| 12:55.14 | Darkarbiter | you know what isn't a number |
| 12:55.14 | ubdead | i won the game about a year back |
| 12:55.19 | Darkarbiter | the square root of a negative cube |
| 12:55.20 | saphion | cant find the map folder |
| 12:55.22 | monoframe | but surely you can only play them through b.net, and furtherly select them |
| 12:55.27 | Darkarbiter | I mean |
| 12:55.33 | Darkarbiter | the cube root of a negative number |
| 12:55.44 | rrowland | wut |
| 12:55.45 | monoframe | equals a negative number |
| 12:55.47 | rrowland | still exists |
| 12:55.52 | Darkarbiter | YOU DONT EXIST |
| 12:55.52 | Darkarbiter | STFU |
| 12:56.13 | Dogmai | Tell me, am I a bad boy for having a loop within a loop |
| 12:56.14 | Darkarbiter | pie to a 100 billion trillion digits doesn't exist ok |
| 12:56.16 | rrowland | darkarbiter, name the first prime number |
| 12:56.17 | ubdead | guys, i have proof that 0.999 = 1 |
| 12:56.19 | Darkarbiter | if you think otherwise prove it |
| 12:56.24 | Darkarbiter | 2 |
| 12:56.25 | ubdead | look look |
| 12:56.27 | Penguinator36 | I just realized that my keyboard doesn't have a square root sign. That's disappointing |
| 12:56.31 | Darkarbiter | 2 is the first prime number |
| 12:56.33 | rrowland | buzz |
| 12:56.38 | ubdead | 1/3 = 0.333~ repeating right |
| 12:56.38 | Darkarbiter | neither does mine |
| 12:56.39 | rrowland | the correct answer was "two" |
| 12:56.45 | ubdead | so |
| 12:56.46 | Dogmai | yea |
| 12:56.47 | Darkarbiter | yeh, I've seen that wiki article |
| 12:56.50 | ubdead | 2/3 = 0.666666 |
| 12:56.54 | Darkarbiter | I believe 0.9999.... is 1 |
| 12:56.58 | Darkarbiter | my maths teacher doesn't though |
| 12:57.00 | Darkarbiter | she's probably wrong though |
| 12:57.01 | ubdead | AND 3/3 = 0.999999999999 |
| 12:57.06 | ubdead | 1 = 0.9999999 |
| 12:57.11 | ubdead | where's your god now |
| 12:57.18 | rrowland | That's a flawed argument |
| 12:57.21 | Dogmai | something like that |
| 12:57.24 | Dogmai | its actually 0.9* |
| 12:57.30 | Darkarbiter | god was busy making americans who can actually think |
| 12:57.34 | ubdead | thats what i said, repeating |
| 12:57.35 | Darkarbiter | when he tried to divide by 0 |
| 12:57.37 | rrowland | 1/3 isn't 0.3333 repeating, the problem is 0.333 repeating is the CLOSEST we can get with our mathematics system |
| 12:57.38 | Dogmai | its like the old saying |
| 12:57.38 | Darkarbiter | and promptly vanished |
| 12:57.42 | Dogmai | walk half the distance between us |
| 12:57.44 | Dogmai | then do it again |
| 12:57.50 | Dogmai | theortically you will never reach me |
| 12:57.54 | ubdead | i know rrowland |
| 12:57.55 | Dogmai | but i can still punch you in the face |
| 12:58.02 | Dogmai | diminishing returns |
| 12:58.06 | ubdead | infinity is fun to mess around with |
| 12:58.14 | Darkarbiter | 0.3333 repeating = 1/3 though |
| 12:58.20 | rrowland | No it's not |
| 12:58.21 | Darkarbiter | it is equal |
| 12:58.25 | Darkarbiter | because it repeats infinitely |
| 12:58.30 | rrowland | You are stupid |
| 12:58.35 | Darkarbiter | why? |
| 12:58.39 | rrowland | It's not equal, it's the closest we can get to defining it |
| 12:58.46 | rrowland | It's not possible to define 1/3 in decimal |
| 12:58.48 | ubdead | becvause we cant use inifinity in math |
| 12:58.56 | ubdead | well we can |
| 12:58.59 | ubdead | but not accurate |
| 12:59.00 | Penguinator36 | 1/3 = ~0.33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 |
| 12:59.09 | Darkarbiter | no it doesn't penguin |
| 12:59.11 | Demonette | 0.3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333.... (infinite fillowing 3's) is 1/3.... |
| 12:59.12 | rrowland | notice the ~ |
| 12:59.14 | deathnight114 | seriously |
| 12:59.19 | deathnight114 | can anyone help me? |
| 12:59.20 | rrowland | 1 isnt 0.333 |
| 12:59.24 | rrowland | 1 = ~0.333 |
| 12:59.26 | Darkarbiter | 1/3 - ~ 0.3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 |
| 12:59.28 | rrowland | ~ means "about" |
| 12:59.37 | monoframe | 1/3 = 0.(3) |
| 12:59.38 | monoframe | here |
| 12:59.41 | monoframe | happy? |
| 12:59.52 | monoframe | adding more 3s won't help |
| 12:59.58 | ubdead | gotta love starting arguments over the internet |
| 13:00.02 | Darkarbiter | oh yeh, watch me |
| 13:00.13 | Demonette | Blubb |
| 13:00.20 | Dogmai | rowland is right |
| 13:00.28 | ubdead | obv |
| 13:00.28 | rrowland | I'm not arguing, I'm educating |
| 13:00.31 | Demonette | 0 => 1 =) |
| 13:00.32 | rrowland | And also calling people stupid |
| 13:00.35 | Darkarbiter | 1/3 = ~0.3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 |
| 13:00.42 | Darkarbiter | that definitely helped |
| 13:00.46 | Dogmai | you cannot convert two different systems to each other |
| 13:00.46 | ubdead | lol |
| 13:00.56 | Dogmai | its why you have the * sign |
| 13:00.58 | Dogmai | and ~ |
| 13:00.59 | ubdead | we all agreed lol |
| 13:01.13 | ubdead | ok new material |
| 13:01.18 | rrowland | Anybody know which missions I have to do to continue the main plotline? |
| 13:01.20 | rrowland | In campaign |
| 13:01.22 | Darkarbiter | that's wrong isn't it dogmai |
| 13:01.27 | rrowland | I'm trying to do this 8 hour achievement |
| 13:01.29 | ubdead | the universe is slowing down |
| 13:01.30 | Penguinator36 | you have to do them all |
| 13:01.31 | Darkarbiter | binary and decimal can definitely be converted |
| 13:01.32 | ubdead | or speeding up |
| 13:01.33 | rrowland | But I can't seem to guess the right one |
| 13:01.40 | Darkarbiter | binary to trinary maybe not |
| 13:01.53 | Darkarbiter | rrowland... the artifacts one |
| 13:01.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 13:02.02 | rrowland | The artifacts one aren't there |
| 13:02.03 | Darkarbiter | the one the like sensible guy gives you |
| 13:02.05 | Demonette | the tychus missions |
| 13:02.12 | Darkarbiter | them too |
| 13:02.16 | rrowland | There are no tychus missions available |
| 13:02.21 | rrowland | I've done the first of each of the other 3 |
| 13:02.28 | rrowland | And none of them opened another tychus mission |
| 13:02.33 | Darkarbiter | maybe it needs multiple? |
| 13:02.36 | ubdead | guys can you still play the archive mission after the finish the mission? |
| 13:02.37 | Sixen | Doesn't tychus need a certain amount? |
| 13:02.38 | rrowland | Well yeah |
| 13:02.42 | ubdead | or does it just 'end' |
| 13:02.44 | rrowland | I'm just trying to figure out which |
| 13:02.49 | Sixen | you can play mission archives, ubdead. |
| 13:02.52 | ubdead | good |
| 13:02.58 | Sixen | @rrowland: If I click "new Campaign", can I still go back to my mission archives? |
| 13:02.58 | rrowland | So I basically just have to do all of the missions? |
| 13:02.58 | ubdead | and no spoilers please |
| 13:03.10 | rrowland | Only if you save sixen |
| 13:03.14 | rrowland | If you don't save you're fucked |
| 13:03.22 | Sixen | So if I click "New Campaign", it won't let me use the mission archives? |
| 13:03.33 | Sixen | so there's no way to get back to the lost viking? :( |
| 13:03.33 | rrowland | No it starts a new campaign |
| 13:03.34 | Darkarbiter | I have proof |
| 13:03.37 | rrowland | Yeah there is |
| 13:03.40 | rrowland | If you saved |
| 13:03.40 | Darkarbiter | that fish does not infact come out of the sea |
| 13:03.45 | Sixen | yeah, but will I get the achievements? |
| 13:03.47 | depthsofchaos | autosaves are stored on your pc |
| 13:03.48 | Darkarbiter | but from a can |
| 13:03.51 | Sixen | and will the save overwrite my campaign status? |
| 13:03.51 | rrowland | Achievements for what |
| 13:03.52 | depthsofchaos | its just hidden sixen |
| 13:03.58 | rrowland | lost viking? |
| 13:04.00 | Sixen | yes |
| 13:04.03 | ubdead | fish are devolved mammels |
| 13:04.03 | rrowland | You will get achievements for it |
| 13:04.03 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 13:04.08 | deathnight114 | sixen |
| 13:04.10 | Fisker | you can just load it through the editor |
| 13:04.10 | deathnight114 | can you help me out? |
| 13:04.11 | depthsofchaos | go to your documents nad find your account |
| 13:04.11 | Sixen | Will it overwrite my campaign progress? |
| 13:04.13 | Sixen | I know, Fisker. |
| 13:04.15 | depthsofchaos | saves will be there |
| 13:04.23 | Sixen | with what, death? |
| 13:04.23 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.23 | ubdead | sixen you could try "play as guest" |
| 13:04.25 | Fisker | and you can start a new campaign and then load the old one |
| 13:04.30 | rrowland | No just make sure to save where you are, name it something like "This is where I am" |
| 13:04.30 | ubdead | for a new campagn slot |
| 13:04.32 | Dogmai | omfg this is looking so sexy |
| 13:04.34 | Fisker | just make sure you save it |
| 13:04.35 | deathnight114 | Is there any way to change that to a zealot |
| 13:04.37 | Dogmai | my ui is running nicely |
| 13:04.37 | rrowland | Then when you want to go back to your campaign, load that |
| 13:04.42 | deathnight114 | so if a zealot enters region 003 |
| 13:04.44 | Dogmai | everythings updating |
| 13:04.49 | Darkarbiter | I'll help test with you if you want dogmai |
| 13:04.49 | Sixen | Sure. "Unit - Zealot" hehe |
| 13:04.52 | Darkarbiter | what's your character name |
| 13:04.56 | ubdead | doigmai you cant keep saying that without screenshots lol |
| 13:05.15 | Darkarbiter | tr00f |
| 13:05.17 | Sixen | oh shit |
| 13:05.19 | Sixen | the sun is up |
| 13:05.20 | Sixen | i should sleep |
| 13:05.22 | ubdead | loll |
| 13:05.26 | ubdead | sleep well |
| 13:05.29 | Penguinator36 | anybody need someone to help test out a map? |
| 13:05.32 | ubdead | i know how you feel lol |
| 13:05.34 | Sixen | night guys :) |
| 13:05.36 | ubdead | cya |
| 13:05.37 | Fisker | night Sixen |
| 13:05.40 | Fisker | and you can't beat me |
| 13:05.40 | Penguinator36 | night |
| 13:05.41 | Fisker | i'm platinum |
| 13:05.42 | deathnight114 | wait what? |
| 13:05.45 | deathnight114 | I dont know how to do that |
| 13:05.47 | deathnight114 | : |
| 13:05.48 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/dragonball-z/. DragonBall Z. UnSouless (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 13:05.49 | deathnight114 | D: |
| 13:05.52 | Sixen | sec death, i'll check |
| 13:06.04 | deathnight114 | what i want it to do |
| 13:06.06 | deathnight114 | is when i build a zealot |
| 13:06.24 | deathnight114 | It will kill the zealot and then add that zealot to my periodic waves |
| 13:06.30 | deathnight114 | five of them |
| 13:06.36 | ubdead | oh god dragonball-z |
| 13:06.51 | monoframe | IT BEGINS |
| 13:06.56 | monoframe | HIDE YESELVES! |
| 13:07.22 | Dogmai | ubdead haha |
| 13:07.31 | Dogmai | well you have 7 weeks |
| 13:07.36 | Dogmai | until i have access to the NA servers |
| 13:07.40 | Dogmai | then ill post screenshots :P |
| 13:07.48 | Darkarbiter | it could be less than 7 |
| 13:07.58 | Dogmai | i want the extra time |
| 13:07.58 | Darkarbiter | well i'm SEA |
| 13:07.59 | ubdead | ill upload it for you to EU hehe (A) |
| 13:08.01 | Darkarbiter | do I get screenshots? |
| 13:08.07 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.13 | deathnight114 | How do i change any unit to zealot |
| 13:08.14 | Dogmai | no :P |
| 13:08.19 | Dogmai | but ill let you be one of the first to test |
| 13:08.27 | Dogmai | if not the first |
| 13:08.27 | deathnight114 | i click it |
| 13:08.29 | deathnight114 | go to variable |
| 13:08.32 | deathnight114 | and nothing shows up |
| 13:08.34 | Darkarbiter | cool |
| 13:08.38 | Sixen | hum |
| 13:08.39 | Darkarbiter | know any other australians here? |
| 13:08.40 | Dogmai | cause i dont know anyone on starcraft except some peeps that added me through facebook |
| 13:08.48 | Dogmai | nope |
| 13:08.49 | Sixen | it's really easy.. .but I can't find it either. |
| 13:08.53 | Sixen | I know it's easy, i've done it before. |
| 13:08.55 | Darkarbiter | I'm just adding people who seem nice |
| 13:08.56 | ubdead | Sixen go to bed lol |
| 13:09.01 | Darkarbiter | then inviting them to games and stuff |
| 13:09.11 | Darkarbiter | got a couple of irl friends who play too |
| 13:09.16 | Sixen | someone help deathnight |
| 13:09.24 | ubdead | i'll help |
| 13:09.30 | ubdead | what do you need darkarbiter? |
| 13:09.43 | Dogmai | wow thats funny |
| 13:09.48 | deathnight114 | really... |
| 13:09.49 | Dogmai | a unit just died and its health is 1 |
| 13:10.10 | Dogmai | yeah, so far ive played 2 games, neither person wanted to talk to me |
| 13:10.13 | Dogmai | T_T |
| 13:10.34 | deathnight114 | I need some help, i'm trying to make it so that when a zealot is created in region 003, then it will immediatly die, and a variable will be modified |
| 13:10.52 | ubdead | i see |
| 13:11.09 | ubdead | is he created in the region, or does the move in there? |
| 13:11.11 | Dogmai | oh i see what happens, when a unit dies it wont update the variable because there is basically nothing to update it to |
| 13:11.15 | ubdead | critical difference |
| 13:11.19 | Dogmai | so it will stay with how much hp it had left before it died |
| 13:11.38 | Dogmai | unless ... |
| 13:11.41 | Dogmai | give me 1 sec |
| 13:11.52 | deathnight114 | he's created there |
| 13:12.15 | ubdead | ok then you'll need a periodic check |
| 13:12.20 | deathnight114 | theres a gateway, a pylon and a probe in there from the start, once enough minerals are aquired from kills, then i build a zealot, it will add five more |
| 13:12.22 | Darkarbiter | you've only played 2 games? |
| 13:12.22 | Darkarbiter | wow |
| 13:12.29 | ubdead | do you have a trigger that triggers every few seconds? |
| 13:12.31 | Dogmai | yes |
| 13:12.33 | Darkarbiter | @ ubDead what do you mean by what do I need? |
| 13:12.42 | Dogmai | only 2 games |
| 13:12.44 | deathnight114 | I have a trigger that will create a wave every 20 seconds |
| 13:12.48 | Dogmai | because i dont like melee |
| 13:12.50 | Dogmai | and there were no customs |
| 13:12.54 | Dogmai | when i was last on a few days ago |
| 13:13.00 | Dogmai | so ive spent all this time in the editor |
| 13:13.02 | Darkarbiter | yeh... the custom maps made so far are pretty poor quality |
| 13:13.06 | Dogmai | cause i dont know anyone to play with |
| 13:13.19 | Darkarbiter | I know if I can get pathfinding right.... and all that business.... then I can make some interesting towers |
| 13:13.25 | Darkarbiter | and make a better map fairly quickly |
| 13:13.25 | ubdead | ok you will also need a trigger that checks if the unit is in the that region every 1 second or so |
| 13:13.46 | Darkarbiter | eventually I wanna try making an island troll tribes clone |
| 13:13.52 | Darkarbiter | but I'm not sure how it'd work |
| 13:13.57 | ubdead | so create a new trigger, and set the event to periodic check |
| 13:14.17 | Dogmai | pathfinding is easy |
| 13:14.27 | Dogmai | when user enters region move to next region |
| 13:14.32 | deathnight114 | you meam periodic event? |
| 13:14.35 | ubdead | yes |
| 13:14.38 | deathnight114 | ok |
| 13:14.42 | Dogmai | oh |
| 13:14.43 | Dogmai | dark |
| 13:14.46 | deathnight114 | set game time to 0.1 seconds? |
| 13:14.48 | ubdead | sure |
| 13:14.52 | Dogmai | you want me to send u a screenshot of the troll tribes i never finished |
| 13:14.57 | Dogmai | from wc3 |
| 13:14.58 | Darkarbiter | sure |
| 13:15.05 | Dogmai | 1 sec |
| 13:15.05 | deathnight114 | then for the action.. |
| 13:15.14 | ubdead | first lets create the variable |
| 13:15.25 | ubdead | do you know how to create a global variable? |
| 13:15.27 | deathnight114 | I already have the variable created i want to modify |
| 13:15.33 | ubdead | ok great |
| 13:15.37 | ubdead | then for actions |
| 13:15.42 | deathnight114 | 10 zealots spawn, i want it to add 5 when i build a lot |
| 13:16.08 | deathnight114 | thanks for helping me out btw |
| 13:16.10 | deathnight114 | :) |
| 13:16.19 | ubdead | sure that's why we're all here for |
| 13:16.21 | ubdead | well most of us |
| 13:16.25 | deathnight114 | hehe |
| 13:16.36 | deathnight114 | okay now, for the action |
| 13:16.44 | deathnight114 | if then else? |
| 13:16.49 | ubdead | ok so you want to check if any zealot is in the region? |
| 13:16.54 | deathnight114 | yeah |
| 13:17.18 | deathnight114 | if zealot is in region then modify zeals variable + 5 else dont do anything |
| 13:17.19 | Dogmai | 21st jan 2005 is when icefrog was beta testing my map, i just found the folder called 'for ice' |
| 13:17.23 | deathnight114 | that's the only thing i can think of |
| 13:17.27 | ubdead | ok try making a local var |
| 13:17.35 | ubdead | called units |
| 13:17.35 | deathnight114 | local? |
| 13:17.39 | ubdead | yes |
| 13:17.50 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 13:17.55 | deathnight114 | Seems a bit odd to me |
| 13:17.57 | deathnight114 | but k |
| 13:18.04 | ubdead | sec ill need to to do this in the editor for a sec |
| 13:18.07 | ubdead | to get it right |
| 13:18.10 | deathnight114 | hehe |
| 13:18.12 | deathnight114 | kk |
| 13:18.26 | ubdead | set the variable type to Unit Grouop |
| 13:18.29 | ubdead | group* |
| 13:18.35 | Darkarbiter | maybe like island troll tribes only in space |
| 13:18.36 | Darkarbiter | could work |
| 13:18.45 | deathnight114 | kk done |
| 13:18.58 | ubdead | now make a new action "Set Variable" |
| 13:19.11 | deathnight114 | k |
| 13:19.19 | ubdead | set the variable parameter to units |
| 13:19.40 | deathnight114 | kk done |
| 13:20.06 | ubdead | let me set up the parameters one sec |
| 13:20.34 | deathnight114 | set 9Units = 4Value |
| 13:20.41 | ubdead | Set Variable |
| 13:20.41 | ubdead | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.41 | ubdead | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.41 | ubdead | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.41 | ubdead | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.42 | ubdead | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.42 | ubdead | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.43 | ubdead | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.03 | ubdead | with the region, set to the region you want it to be |
| 13:21.14 | deathnight114 | okay... |
| 13:21.42 | ubdead | ok now we need a loop that goes trough the unit group |
| 13:21.54 | ubdead | so create a "for each" action |
| 13:21.55 | Dogmai | oh wow found an old screenshot of my icetrolls |
| 13:22.01 | ubdead | or whatever it's called |
| 13:22.06 | Dogmai | from 05 lawl |
| 13:22.24 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 13:22.25 | ubdead | for each unit in unit group |
| 13:22.28 | ubdead | that is |
| 13:22.28 | Darkarbiter | sendies |
| 13:22.33 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.44 | ubdead | thats right |
| 13:22.55 | ubdead | now create a new local var |
| 13:22.57 | ubdead | called unit |
| 13:23.01 | ubdead | type: unit |
| 13:23.03 | deathnight114 | i already did that? |
| 13:23.05 | deathnight114 | oh |
| 13:23.06 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 13:23.32 | deathnight114 | done |
| 13:23.35 | kruno | goodness the data editor is powerful. i have a whole new respect for it |
| 13:23.36 | deathnight114 | now.... |
| 13:23.46 | ubdead | now in the for each action set the unit parameter to the unit var |
| 13:24.01 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 13:24.04 | deathnight114 | but |
| 13:24.06 | ubdead | and the unit group to units var |
| 13:24.15 | Darkarbiter | is there a way to detect whether a player with a certain name is in the game? |
| 13:24.17 | Dogmai | Darkarbiter |
| 13:24.18 | Dogmai | http://kidi.ws/icetrolls.jpg |
| 13:24.25 | deathnight114 | but..... how am i gonna have it modify my zealots variable? |
| 13:24.36 | Darkarbiter | hmm cool |
| 13:24.43 | Darkarbiter | like, could you create a banlist for a map? |
| 13:24.51 | deathnight114 | wait |
| 13:24.55 | ubdead | we'll get to that |
| 13:24.56 | deathnight114 | so what other actions do i want? |
| 13:25.10 | Dogmai | yes |
| 13:25.12 | ubdead | inside the loop |
| 13:25.16 | ubdead | add a new action |
| 13:25.18 | Dogmai | you can add banlists |
| 13:25.25 | Darkarbiter | or a whitelist that overrides who's host and makes said player choose options |
| 13:25.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Pierrot (5a20ec55@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.32.236.85) |
| 13:25.33 | Dogmai | yes |
| 13:25.33 | ubdead | depending what do you want to with each zealot |
| 13:25.34 | Dogmai | very easily |
| 13:25.37 | deathnight114 | I want to modify my variable |
| 13:25.38 | Darkarbiter | ok good |
| 13:25.40 | Pierrot | Hi again |
| 13:25.41 | Dogmai | i like to put hidden codes in my maps |
| 13:25.41 | deathnight114 | For each zealot built |
| 13:25.46 | Dogmai | name + code |
| 13:25.47 | deathnight114 | I want the zealot built to immediatly die |
| 13:25.55 | Darkarbiter | so you need character code as well? |
| 13:25.56 | Dogmai | but only to take over hosting |
| 13:25.59 | Dogmai | cheating is badddddddd |
| 13:26.02 | Dogmai | no like a password |
| 13:26.02 | deathnight114 | then i want five zealots to be added to a seporate global variable |
| 13:26.15 | Darkarbiter | I mean like |
| 13:26.18 | ubdead | what type is the global variable? |
| 13:26.23 | ubdead | an integer? |
| 13:26.24 | Darkarbiter | if some douchebag deliberately slows down the game repeatedly |
| 13:26.27 | Darkarbiter | and then leaves |
| 13:26.39 | Darkarbiter | do I need his character name alone, or character name and code? |
| 13:26.40 | deathnight114 | yes |
| 13:27.02 | ubdead | ok so create a new ehm, whats it called |
| 13:27.05 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.08 | ubdead | modify variable |
| 13:27.11 | Darkarbiter | can you detect what realm the map is being played on? |
| 13:27.12 | ubdead | action |
| 13:27.13 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 13:27.20 | ubdead | inside the loop |
| 13:27.46 | ubdead | and set the Variable parameter to the global variable |
| 13:28.01 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.06 | deathnight114 | hold on |
| 13:28.15 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.17 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.19 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.20 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.22 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.23 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.25 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.26 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.28 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.37 | deathnight114 | like this? |
| 13:28.41 | ubdead | let me check |
| 13:28.44 | monoframe | http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=978911 |
| 13:28.45 | Dogmai | Darkarbiter, i dont think you can actually get the players name anymore |
| 13:28.47 | Dogmai | that sucks |
| 13:28.52 | Dogmai | you could in wc3, player - player name |
| 13:29.04 | Dogmai | you might have to write a custom script |
| 13:29.07 | ubdead | did you miss the for each action? |
| 13:29.09 | Darkarbiter | Yeh, that sucks |
| 13:29.14 | Darkarbiter | is that actually possible dogmai? |
| 13:29.20 | deathnight114 | I didn't know what you meant by that |
| 13:29.24 | ubdead | Unit Group - For each unit unit in units do (Actions) |
| 13:29.55 | ubdead | you'll need that |
| 13:30.11 | deathnight114 | whaaa? |
| 13:30.21 | ubdead | it's a For Each Unit in Unit Group action |
| 13:30.23 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.36 | deathnight114 | that's the closest i think i can get to that |
| 13:30.38 | deathnight114 | :| |
| 13:30.47 | ubdead | yes thats right |
| 13:30.55 | deathnight114 | ok |
| 13:31.01 | Darkarbiter | is there a way to say a code ingame |
| 13:31.02 | ubdead | ok so add the modify global var action inside the loop |
| 13:31.08 | Darkarbiter | that will be activated by the map but others can't see? |
| 13:31.11 | deathnight114 | done |
| 13:31.18 | ubdead | Darkarbiter talk to observers |
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| 13:31.28 | ubdead | ok so about this variable |
| 13:31.37 | deathnight114 | hm. |
| 13:31.38 | Darkarbiter | could always try that and make it so there's a different code at each second |
| 13:31.41 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.43 | ubdead | right now, when 1 zealot dies, the variable goes up by 5 |
| 13:31.45 | deathnight114 | that's the var i'm modifying |
| 13:31.58 | deathnight114 | only when the zealot dies in reagon 3 |
| 13:32.03 | ubdead | right |
| 13:32.04 | deathnight114 | Which is blocked off from the fight |
| 13:32.18 | ubdead | well ok i guess |
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| 13:32.19 | deathnight114 | so it shouldn't modify it for EACH Zealot that dies |
| 13:32.24 | deathnight114 | lemme test it first though |
| 13:32.33 | ubdead | well you still need to kill the unit |
| 13:32.37 | ubdead | inside the loop |
| 13:33.26 | ubdead | also you might want to set it to 0.5 seconds |
| 13:33.30 | ubdead | 0.1 is a bit overkill |
| 13:33.38 | Darkarbiter | how would you talk to observers though? |
| 13:33.46 | Darkarbiter | it doesn't normally come up when you press tab |
| 13:33.56 | ubdead | just guessing |
| 13:33.57 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 13:34.08 | deathnight114 | I forgot to have it kill the zealots |
| 13:34.12 | deathnight114 | huge mass of them just appeared |
| 13:34.13 | ubdead | ;) |
| 13:34.14 | deathnight114 | LOOL |
| 13:34.16 | Dogmai | no idea if it is possible or not |
| 13:34.23 | Dogmai | too busy to look into it |
| 13:38.17 | Darkarbiter | why are you guys so rascst |
| 13:38.19 | Darkarbiter | rascist* |
| 13:38.44 | ubdead | i hate all foreigners just the same |
| 13:38.48 | ubdead | so not racist at all |
| 13:39.13 | monoframe | Uhm, guys, any of you use F.lux? blatant adverstising: http://www.stereopsis.com/flux/ |
| 13:39.17 | monoframe | :X |
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| 13:39.57 | deathnight114 | wtf |
| 13:40.09 | deathnight114 | it wont kill the zealot? |
| 13:40.12 | Darkarbiter | just because you're a honky doesn't mean you aren't hung like a donkey |
| 13:40.14 | Darkarbiter | just sayin' |
| 13:40.20 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.22 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.23 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.25 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.27 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.43 | ubdead | monoframe |
| 13:40.44 | deathnight114 | it doesn't kill my zealot |
| 13:40.51 | ubdead | you're a dev or what? |
| 13:40.52 | monoframe | yesh |
| 13:40.56 | monoframe | no S: |
| 13:40.59 | monoframe | just saw a linky |
| 13:41.05 | ubdead | whats f.lux |
| 13:41.18 | monoframe | It sorta adjusts the colouring depending on the time of the day |
| 13:41.20 | deathnight114 | ubdead, help? |
| 13:41.25 | monoframe | and lightning used |
| 13:41.28 | ubdead | set last created unit to the local unit var |
| 13:41.58 | monoframe | Thus easining the eye strain when looking at monitor during the dark hours P: |
| 13:41.59 | monoframe | or so |
| 13:42.02 | monoframe | just installed it |
| 13:42.07 | ubdead | meh lets give it a shot then 8D monoframe |
| 13:42.09 | monoframe | can't say much, daytime's up |
| 13:42.32 | monoframe | Don't forget to select proper longitude and latitude |
| 13:42.41 | monoframe | the program has inbuilt feature to check it |
| 13:43.09 | ubdead | i just did |
| 13:43.14 | Darkarbiter | if you were a sheep |
| 13:43.18 | ubdead | pretty cool to see the sun move anyway lol |
| 13:43.20 | Darkarbiter | would you fuck another sheep? |
| 13:43.25 | deathnight114 | w00t |
| 13:43.27 | deathnight114 | now... |
| 13:43.31 | deathnight114 | probably a really easy one |
| 13:43.31 | monoframe | I like them shaved |
| 13:43.31 | ubdead | hell i'd fuck a sheep even when im a human |
| 13:43.32 | deathnight114 | but |
| 13:43.33 | monoframe | you know |
| 13:43.41 | deathnight114 | how do i give vision to a certaion area of the map? |
| 13:43.43 | Darkarbiter | by would |
| 13:43.49 | Darkarbiter | you mean you have repeatedly |
| 13:43.55 | ubdead | use create revealer deathnight |
| 13:43.58 | Darkarbiter | and I didn't know you were from new zealand ubdead |
| 13:44.04 | ubdead | KIWI |
| 13:44.13 | deathnight114 | i want to reviel region 6 |
| 13:44.13 | Darkarbiter | lol you actually are? |
| 13:44.20 | ubdead | no lol |
| 13:44.34 | ubdead | in exactly on the other side of the world |
| 13:44.43 | Darkarbiter | proof of exactly |
| 13:44.45 | Darkarbiter | what country you on? |
| 13:44.50 | ubdead | let me google it |
| 13:44.52 | ubdead | sec |
| 13:45.13 | Darkarbiter | where you from? |
| 13:45.20 | Penguinator36 | you have to google what country you live in? |
| 13:45.25 | kruno | lol |
| 13:45.36 | ubdead | http://www.antipodemap.com/ |
| 13:45.43 | ubdead | mnn no where to link the location |
| 13:45.54 | ubdead | put it on "the netherlands" |
| 13:45.56 | Darkarbiter | just tell me |
| 13:45.57 | ubdead | (next to germany) |
| 13:45.59 | Darkarbiter | and I'll go on google maps |
| 13:46.04 | Darkarbiter | I know where the netherlands are |
| 13:46.15 | Darkarbiter | it's where hippies are born |
| 13:46.19 | ubdead | true true |
| 13:46.58 | Dinoo | hmm damn |
| 13:47.10 | Dinoo | I downloaded my chain lightning map I made in the beta and it's not workign anymore >_< |
| 13:47.22 | ubdead | was it triggered |
| 13:47.25 | ubdead | or DE? |
| 13:47.30 | Dinoo | DE |
| 13:47.39 | ubdead | oh well, just rewrite it lol |
| 13:47.42 | Dinoo | D: |
| 13:47.51 | ubdead | it's not that hard anymore |
| 13:47.59 | Dinoo | oh ? what changed about it ? |
| 13:48.11 | ubdead | we know a lot more aobut the DE now then back then |
| 13:48.19 | ubdead | like it's really easy if you use markers |
| 13:48.32 | ubdead | search effect |
| 13:48.38 | ubdead | sort by distance |
| 13:48.39 | ubdead | done |
| 13:49.07 | Dinoo | Well, I used search effect and behavior |
| 13:49.18 | Dinoo | what's a marker ? Any tutorial on that ? |
| 13:49.39 | Darkarbiter | I would say |
| 13:49.44 | ubdead | no i should make one |
| 13:49.47 | Darkarbiter | opposite of new zealand would be a bit west of portugal |
| 13:49.56 | ubdead | fair enough dark |
| 13:50.00 | ubdead | but pretty close still |
| 13:50.36 | Darkarbiter | no |
| 13:50.39 | Darkarbiter | not good enough |
| 13:50.42 | ubdead | also dinoo, look at how the colossus uses markers |
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| 13:50.52 | ubdead | the sweeping attack can only hit each target once |
| 13:50.56 | ubdead | they use markers for that |
| 13:53.19 | Dinoo | thanks |
| 13:53.21 | deathnight114 | how do i modify the time it takes to build a unit? |
| 13:53.27 | Dinoo | mutalisk attack too right ? |
| 13:53.27 | Darkarbiter | what's some good |
| 13:53.31 | Darkarbiter | galaxy editor tutorials |
| 13:53.36 | Darkarbiter | the tower defence tutorial was good |
| 13:53.46 | deathnight114 | depends on what your trying to do |
| 13:53.57 | Darkarbiter | well I'm trying to learn |
| 13:54.07 | deathnight114 | same, i'm just starting |
| 13:54.13 | deathnight114 | making my first custom map right now |
| 13:54.15 | deathnight114 | :) |
| 13:54.27 | ubdead | lol btw monoframe |
| 13:54.32 | Darkarbiter | probably not something in detail on how to create a really specific unit though |
| 13:54.34 | ubdead | i did a 24 hour preview |
| 13:54.34 | Darkarbiter | like the uberlisk |
| 13:54.37 | ubdead | on that flux thing |
| 13:54.41 | monoframe | and? |
| 13:54.44 | ubdead | makes your screen turn orange what the fuck lol |
| 13:54.48 | Darkarbiter | but anything else |
| 13:54.49 | monoframe | P: |
| 13:54.55 | Darkarbiter | ok I wanna make a map |
| 13:54.59 | monoframe | I don't know how it would look during the nighttime |
| 13:55.01 | Darkarbiter | that just randomly changes the lighting |
| 13:55.06 | monoframe | So I'll just wait |
| 13:55.19 | Darkarbiter | Is it possible to use a the arithmatic function to create fractals? |
| 13:55.26 | ubdead | yea i think the change was a bit too fast |
| 13:55.30 | ubdead | with the preview |
| 13:55.38 | ubdead | might take some time getting used to |
| 13:55.47 | deathnight114 | hello? |
| 13:55.53 | deathnight114 | How do i modify the time it takes to build a unit? |
| 13:56.03 | monoframe | by modify unit properties? |
| 13:56.08 | Darkarbiter | wouldn't it be on the like |
| 13:56.10 | Darkarbiter | abilities |
| 13:56.11 | monoframe | modifying* |
| 13:56.15 | Darkarbiter | of the thing that makes the unit |
| 13:56.22 | ubdead | it's on the Train ability |
| 13:56.25 | Darkarbiter | like on the ability that is make unit or whatever |
| 13:56.33 | Darkarbiter | assumably that would have 0 cooldown, but a train time |
| 13:56.56 | Dinoo | hmm |
| 13:57.13 | Darkarbiter | ANYWAY SOMEONE ANSWER MY QUESTION |
| 13:57.18 | Dinoo | The mutalisk bounce use the "No Marker" validator but doesn't set any marker anywhere, strange |
| 13:57.19 | Darkarbiter | can you use the arithmatic function to create fractals |
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| 13:57.56 | ubdead | i think the mutas use behavior |
| 13:57.58 | ubdead | let me check |
| 13:59.16 | Darkarbiter | :'( |
| 13:59.35 | Darkarbiter | ima use iptracer to hack your computers cos you're all so unhelpful |
| 13:59.51 | Dinoo | It calls a GlaiveWurmM*TargetFilters validator but it doesn't exist |
| 14:00.02 | depthsofchaos | how do i open campaign maps ?:o |
| 14:00.08 | Dinoo | and also a No Markers validator |
| 14:00.14 | `MindWorX | Dinoo, some things are only visible if you open the XML |
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| 14:00.22 | ubdead | Dinoo thats normal |
| 14:00.31 | ubdead | the targetFilters validator is default |
| 14:00.36 | monoframe | darkarb, don't forget to developd a user interface in basic, so that you could EFFECTIVELY trace IPs to hack them |
| 14:00.37 | ubdead | it's inheritet |
| 14:00.50 | Dinoo | You can't edit them in the editor ? :( |
| 14:01.01 | Darkarbiter | don't you tell me about what's effective |
| 14:01.06 | ubdead | monoframe frikkin scriptkiddies |
| 14:01.06 | ubdead | lol |
| 14:01.10 | Darkarbiter | when your looking at bluescreen then we'll see effective |
| 14:01.13 | Penguinator36 | Where do I find units that aren't in regular sc2? Like the vultures, goliaths, science vessels, firebats, scourge, etc? |
| 14:01.25 | Darkarbiter | liberty campaign files |
| 14:01.31 | ubdead | and also Dinoo |
| 14:01.41 | ubdead | i think the default setting for each effect is to set 1 marker |
| 14:01.46 | ubdead | so the no marker |
| 14:02.09 | ubdead | will cause it to skip every unit that has already been hit |
| 14:02.21 | Darkarbiter | what's the dependencies bug? |
| 14:02.25 | Dinoo | hmm |
| 14:02.38 | ubdead | Penguinator36 File > Dependicies |
| 14:02.46 | ubdead | the bug is |
| 14:02.54 | ubdead | you need to put Story and Campagn on top |
| 14:02.58 | ubdead | or it will miss some units |
| 14:03.14 | ubdead | and sometimes the headers get fucked up |
| 14:03.20 | ubdead | and it corrupts your map |
| 14:03.35 | ubdead | also, sometimes setting a certain model, will cause all your links to break |
| 14:03.47 | ubdead | so save often |
| 14:03.47 | Penguinator36 | ok... so explain to me exactly what to do as if you were talking to a 6 year old |
| 14:03.49 | Darkarbiter | sounds |
| 14:03.50 | Darkarbiter | fun |
| 14:04.04 | ubdead | Penguinator36 go to File > dependecies |
| 14:04.05 | Darkarbiter | well i know if I was talking to a 6 year old |
| 14:04.06 | Darkarbiter | I'd be like |
| 14:04.10 | Darkarbiter | there's candy in the back of my van |
| 14:04.12 | ubdead | then click something like "Add" |
| 14:04.15 | Darkarbiter | get in |
| 14:04.24 | ubdead | and select the Campaign thiingy |
| 14:04.33 | ubdead | also, lolwat Darkarbiter |
| 14:05.02 | Darkarbiter | and what does red mean anyway? |
| 14:05.14 | ubdead | it's a color |
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| 14:05.49 | Darkarbiter | yeh but |
| 14:05.53 | Darkarbiter | how come your name went red? |
| 14:06.06 | ubdead | i don't know, depends on your client i guess |
| 14:06.21 | ubdead | or somebody made me an admin |
| 14:06.24 | ubdead | without me knowing |
| 14:07.05 | Darkarbiter | cos dogmai's goes red sometimes |
| 14:07.09 | AsaPhelps | my client doesn't have colors :( |
| 14:07.11 | Dinoo | :| |
| 14:07.22 | ubdead | Darkarbiter is it red now? |
| 14:07.29 | Darkarbiter | yes |
| 14:07.36 | ubdead | it's because i used your name |
| 14:07.47 | Darkarbiter | on, right |
| 14:08.30 | Darkarbiter | so how come the forums are no where near as active as IRC? |
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| 14:08.43 | ubdead | IRC -> instant anwsers |
| 14:09.10 | r9k | Hey |
| 14:09.15 | ubdead | hi |
| 14:09.27 | Darkarbiter | yeh but not necassarily quality answers |
| 14:09.38 | ubdead | thats true |
| 14:10.17 | r9k | I'm new to this channel, do you have any rules? Like can we organize maps showcase or is it considered advertising ? |
| 14:10.18 | kruno | I like it here on IRC because I can overhear much of what is spoken about, you guys have a lot of uselful information |
| 14:10.22 | ubdead | im watching full metal jacket |
| 14:10.27 | ubdead | it's so frikking awesome |
| 14:10.41 | ubdead | r9k you can do anything you'd like |
| 14:10.48 | kruno | I am finding the trigger editor virtually trivial ow :) |
| 14:10.58 | kruno | I mean data editor^ |
| 14:10.58 | ubdead | mods will ban you if they dont like it lol |
| 14:11.03 | Darkarbiter | data editor is easy |
| 14:11.07 | kruno | no |
| 14:11.07 | Darkarbiter | trigger editor though is hell |
| 14:11.15 | kruno | I disagree |
| 14:11.22 | r9k | Staredit.net used to organize Map Nights, it was awesome. But since there is no chat channels yet, irc could be a good way. |
| 14:11.22 | Darkarbiter | well you're wrong |
| 14:11.34 | kruno | how am I wrong? |
| 14:11.46 | AsaPhelps | I like the data editor myself |
| 14:11.50 | ubdead | well im not sure if the mods would like to advertise other websites |
| 14:11.51 | Darkarbiter | This is #sc2mapster IRC not #freedom_of_opinion |
| 14:12.09 | r9k | its a website for sc1 |
| 14:12.40 | kruno | I found the data editor duanting, but have now spent about 4-6 hours using it |
| 14:12.40 | r9k | I'm just saying, having map nights would be a good way to find new maps and help people out. |
| 14:13.34 | kruno | my first actions in the editor was to script everything, which wasn't hard when you picked up the templates such as filter -> group -> unit stuff |
| 14:13.51 | kruno | but the data editor went unused and today... |
| 14:14.29 | AsaPhelps | scripting is probably easier for people with computer programming knowledge |
| 14:14.31 | kruno | someone mentioned that the data editor can do 90% of things that we usually want to do, and at no performance cost and limitations such as memory, threadsm etc,, |
| 14:14.51 | AsaPhelps | true but some thing are 90% easier to do with triggers |
| 14:15.02 | Darkarbiter | map nights? |
| 14:15.03 | kruno | Asa: I have programmed Perl as a living, so it isn't hard for me to pick up a new language and learn it |
| 14:15.27 | AsaPhelps | like I don't know much programming so I like the data editor |
| 14:15.28 | r9k | kruno, maybe you could use http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/milkywayedit/ |
| 14:15.31 | Darkarbiter | lol... yeh |
| 14:15.32 | Darkarbiter | it's funny |
| 14:15.35 | Darkarbiter | we were learning javascript |
| 14:15.42 | Darkarbiter | and several games' scripts are very similar |
| 14:15.52 | Darkarbiter | infact some seemed to be harder then what we were doing |
| 14:16.03 | Darkarbiter | what do you mean map nights r9k? |
| 14:16.37 | Darkarbiter | What are the rules regarding maps btw? |
| 14:16.45 | kruno | no nudity |
| 14:16.49 | kruno | no vulgarity |
| 14:16.51 | Jum-Jum | then screw that |
| 14:16.53 | Darkarbiter | Like if I were to make a map called Nazi td where wave 1 is jews, 2 is homosexuals and 3 is gypsies |
| 14:16.58 | kruno | we do not wish to see penises plastered across every map |
| 14:17.12 | ubdead | Darkarbiter sounds like a solid map |
| 14:17.20 | Darkarbiter | 4 is the mentally retarded |
| 14:17.20 | Jum-Jum | I would so play that, it's funny when you go to far with stuff |
| 14:17.20 | r9k | Every nights, people come here and we choose n unpopular map and play it, try it. Or we can play a map someone here made to help him out. |
| 14:17.23 | Darkarbiter | 5 communists |
| 14:17.26 | r9k | that's what map nights used to be |
| 14:17.29 | Darkarbiter | true true |
| 14:17.33 | Darkarbiter | infact it'd be sorta educational |
| 14:17.39 | Darkarbiter | most people think the nazis only killed jews |
| 14:17.49 | Jum-Jum | make a huge moral cookie in it |
| 14:17.56 | Jum-Jum | so it would be like american history x |
| 14:17.59 | Darkarbiter | no screw that |
| 14:18.03 | Jum-Jum | and people would go all "awww so racism is bad ... :S" |
| 14:18.06 | kruno | don't forget jehova's witnesses, zeratul, etc... |
| 14:18.08 | Darkarbiter | I'll give a mineral bonus to whoever says WHITE POWER |
| 14:18.09 | Darkarbiter | first |
| 14:18.24 | monoframe | There's already a Nazi TD map for WarCraft 3 <.< |
| 14:18.42 | Darkarbiter | yeh I know I have it |
| 14:18.42 | monoframe | And it's terrained to resemble swastika |
| 14:18.43 | Darkarbiter | it's no good |
| 14:18.55 | Darkarbiter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-MBlxrVeP8 maybe have a few sound bytes from that |
| 14:19.47 | kruno | there is something I believe the data editor can not do, please correct me though |
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| 14:20.04 | kruno | you can not set commands, such as hero revival to be automated from the data editor? |
| 14:20.34 | kruno | however maybe I can use the ability as a buff and have it revive in a certain region? |
| 14:20.41 | Darkarbiter | can't you do detect unit death |
| 14:20.41 | Darkarbiter | then spawn it again? |
| 14:20.54 | kruno | via data editor? |
| 14:21.36 | Darkarbiter | with triggers |
| 14:21.41 | kruno | I am really exploring the data editor's limits with what I can do, before requiring to use scripts |
| 14:21.46 | Darkarbiter | have an event that says |
| 14:21.50 | Darkarbiter | when said unit dies |
| 14:21.52 | Darkarbiter | spawn said unit |
| 14:21.57 | kruno | dude, I already wrote one with triggers |
| 14:22.00 | Darkarbiter | and set the upgrade/ability/whatever as a condition |
| 14:22.03 | Darkarbiter | oic |
| 14:22.13 | Darkarbiter | can't actors do that? |
| 14:22.24 | kruno | that is what I would love to find out |
| 14:22.51 | Darkarbiter | cos apparently actors can have trigger like functions |
| 14:22.56 | Darkarbiter | WELL ACTUALLY |
| 14:23.00 | Darkarbiter | when hatcheries die |
| 14:23.02 | Darkarbiter | they spawn broodlings |
| 14:23.07 | Darkarbiter | so just copy that sortof function |
| 14:23.09 | kruno | ahh |
| 14:23.10 | Darkarbiter | only spawn the hero itself |
| 14:23.13 | kruno | thanks for that lead |
| 14:24.22 | kruno | got it :D |
| 14:24.28 | kruno | zerg building dies 9 |
| 14:24.39 | kruno | effects: zerg building spawn broodling |
| 14:24.57 | kruno | thanks for that |
| 14:25.15 | Darkarbiter | np |
| 14:25.47 | ubdead | sure you can detect death |
| 14:25.54 | ubdead | look at banelings |
| 14:26.09 | kruno | is so happy, turns on lady gaga |
| 14:26.30 | Darkarbiter | omfg |
| 14:26.30 | Darkarbiter | ban |
| 14:26.33 | Dinoo | ^^ |
| 14:26.40 | r9k | Sixen, any news on Sparsile ? |
| 14:30.12 | Darkarbiter | I heard you liek mudkipz |
| 14:30.46 | r9k | I gave up on memes 1 year ago. That is why my name is r9k. |
| 14:31.13 | Darkarbiter | what does r9k mean? |
| 14:31.38 | Fisker | Sixen is asleep |
| 14:31.41 | Fisker | robot 9000 |
| 14:31.43 | Fisker | ;3 |
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| 14:34.29 | Darkarbiter | do you reckon they are gonna increase map sizes with the expansions? |
| 14:35.22 | monoframe | Why would they? |
| 14:35.30 | Darkarbiter | so who here's penis gets harder because of my resistance |
| 14:35.32 | Darkarbiter | cos it's small |
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| 14:35.46 | Darkarbiter | it's smaller than the TFT borders |
| 14:36.51 | Falsus | Does anyone know of a good Unit Tester that's compatible with the latest version of SC2? |
| 14:37.04 | Penguinator36 | So I enabled the liberty campaign units and then i put a goliath in my map and saved it and now when i open my map up, he doesn't appear, but i still have the dependencies enabled |
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| 14:38.10 | Penguinator36 | anyone know how to fix that? |
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| 14:39.59 | Dinoo | strange |
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| 14:44.07 | Dinoo | hmmm |
| 14:45.31 | Dinoo | I'm giving an unit the Mutalisk - Glaive Wurm (Launch Missile) effect (that the first effect, the same one as the mutalisk weapon), but as an ability instead of as a weapon/attack |
| 14:45.51 | Darkarbiter | hmm |
| 14:45.56 | Dinoo | and just that is enough to break it : it bounce back to the original unit |
| 14:45.59 | Darkarbiter | a more damaging version? |
| 14:46.29 | Dinoo | later one yes, but for now I didn't change anything and it's already broken ^^' |
| 14:46.33 | Dinoo | on* |
| 14:47.01 | Darkarbiter | is there a way |
| 14:47.09 | Darkarbiter | to make it so it can't hit allied units? |
| 14:47.29 | kruno | anyone know the "search" function in the data editor on the left pane? Why does it not have a search function independent of each tab instead of a single universal thing? |
| 14:47.49 | Dinoo | to make it so what can't hit allied units ? |
| 14:48.11 | Dinoo | kruno : I have a search box in the left tab and in the right tab |
| 14:49.08 | kruno | we all do Dinoo, I would just like them to be context specific |
| 14:49.23 | kruno | units, actors, models, etc... |
| 14:50.01 | Dinoo | You'd like to be able to make a search in actors only, for exemple ? |
| 14:50.52 | kruno | if I hit "actors" and type "arse", aand then go into models and type "breasts", I want to return to tab "actors" and see my arse there |
| 14:51.09 | Dinoo | meh |
| 14:51.29 | Dinoo | yeah, would be better |
| 14:51.41 | Dogmai | omfg yes! |
| 14:51.45 | kruno | Blizzard's IDE feels a little clumsy |
| 14:51.58 | kruno | I paid $89 for a clumsy IDE |
| 14:54.15 | Dogmai | my ui gets sexier every minute |
| 14:54.26 | Dogmai | i just found a very nice new cooldown image |
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| 14:56.16 | Dinoo | so, where can I look at those hidden inherited validators ? |
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| 14:59.15 | Darkarbiter | hey |
| 14:59.20 | Dinoo | hey |
| 14:59.23 | kruno | imagine a map based on chatroulette? |
| 15:00.09 | ubdead | fuck me Full Metal Jacket is such an epic movie |
| 15:00.12 | ubdead | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Nf1MK7lts |
| 15:00.17 | Twiner | old news |
| 15:00.39 | kruno | is it like chatroulette? |
| 15:00.55 | ubdead | 10 dorrar |
| 15:01.00 | Twiner | I donno how you could possibly do a map like chatroulette |
| 15:01.15 | kruno | use your imagination ;) |
| 15:01.28 | kruno | guess what the banks will store? |
| 15:01.38 | kruno | preload texture ... |
| 15:02.32 | Darkarbiter | haha god |
| 15:02.34 | Demonette | Can is seens something from one acteur to an other? |
| 15:02.54 | Demonette | so that one acteur activates all acteurs of a typ or similar stuff? |
| 15:04.01 | kruno | no dude |
| 15:04.12 | kruno | just draw a texture of a penis across the whole terrain |
| 15:04.43 | kruno | make it random |
| 15:04.43 | Demonette | Sick people around there... |
| 15:05.00 | kruno | Australia has only sane and healtyh people |
| 15:05.02 | Markus3832 | Hey people! I'm trying to follow the tutorial of how to import a model to SC2, but I can't get the texture to show... The model works, but the texture isn't applied, and I've checked several times that the file paths are the same as in the tutorial |
| 15:05.10 | Markus3832 | Does anyone know what might be the problem? |
| 15:05.31 | Demonette | I don't have 3Dsmax -.- |
| 15:05.55 | Markus3832 | I'm doing the one with the already exported model by Skiz ^^ |
| 15:06.08 | kruno | no one uses Blender? |
| 15:06.22 | Demonette | ?? |
| 15:06.30 | kruno | for 3d models |
| 15:06.35 | Demonette | I use blender but there isn't a in/exporter already OR? |
| 15:06.36 | kruno | why must it be 3ds max? |
| 15:07.23 | Demonette | Yey cause blender can't handle m3 files =P |
| 15:11.15 | Dinoo | hey ubdead ? |
| 15:11.19 | Dinoo | about that mutalisk validator |
| 15:11.23 | ubdead | mnn |
| 15:11.29 | Dinoo | are you sure it exists ? It's not in the xml |
| 15:11.43 | ubdead | well i have no idea |
| 15:11.45 | Dinoo | Core ValidatorData.xml and Liberty ValidatorData.xml |
| 15:11.53 | Dinoo | is there any other file with validators ? |
| 15:11.58 | Demonette | ?? |
| 15:12.02 | Demonette | What for an validator? |
| 15:12.10 | ubdead | im watching a movie right now |
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| 15:12.17 | ubdead | check back with me in 1,5h |
| 15:12.20 | Dinoo | ok ^^ |
| 15:13.32 | deathnight114 | how can i make a spire build a mutalisk? |
| 15:13.34 | deathnight114 | lol |
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| 15:14.47 | kruno | what is a validator? please tell me it is a precondition. |
| 15:15.17 | r9k | Can you make |
| 15:15.26 | r9k | a transport unit enter another transport unit |
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| 15:15.40 | Demonette | They check if you got a valid target for something |
| 15:15.42 | ubdead | hehe thats sounds like fun to be honest |
| 15:15.58 | kruno | demonette: ta |
| 15:16.07 | Demonette | Yes you can make transported transporters |
| 15:16.16 | r9k | sweet |
| 15:16.27 | deathnight114 | hello? |
| 15:16.46 | deathnight114 | I need to make a spire build a mutalisk |
| 15:16.54 | Demonette | ubdead... do you know how to check which value a reference send to an acteur has? |
| 15:16.54 | deathnight114 | I can't figure out how |
| 15:16.56 | deathnight114 | :\ |
| 15:17.01 | SD|GhosT | I might be blind, but I can't seem to find any of the hero units in the Data editor, Ex: Nova . I can place her with the brush but cant seem to edit any data. probobly missing something stupid, anyone have any ideas? |
| 15:17.04 | Demonette | just make a new ability |
| 15:17.13 | Demonette | an effect ability |
| 15:17.15 | deathnight114 | click file, dependencies |
| 15:17.32 | ubdead | Demonette maybe later, watching movie now |
| 15:17.37 | deathnight114 | @SD|GhosT |
| 15:17.44 | SD|GhosT | yep i have all 4 |
| 15:17.51 | deathnight114 | hm. |
| 15:17.53 | Demonette | lol XD |
| 15:17.53 | deathnight114 | uhh |
| 15:17.57 | SD|GhosT | they are available to be placed |
| 15:18.03 | Demonette | maybe save and reopen? |
| 15:18.04 | SD|GhosT | but i wanted to edit the data (properties) |
| 15:18.10 | deathnight114 | yeah... |
| 15:18.15 | deathnight114 | try save-reopne |
| 15:18.18 | deathnight114 | reopen* |
| 15:18.20 | SD|GhosT | will give that a shot, one sec |
| 15:18.37 | deathnight114 | I can not figure out how to make a spire build a mutalisk |
| 15:18.39 | deathnight114 | :\ |
| 15:19.02 | Dinoo | you mean have a spire train a mutalisk ? |
| 15:19.04 | kruno | abilities + command cards? |
| 15:19.20 | deathnight114 | yeah |
| 15:19.21 | Penguinator36 | For some reason, when I edit the size of a model, it shows up in the actual game, but when I'm looking at my units in the editor, they don't change. Is there any way to fix that? |
| 15:19.30 | deathnight114 | im a bit of a noob |
| 15:19.46 | SD|GhosT | @deathnight - lol nova is gone and now not listed after reopen... let me check dependencies again |
| 15:19.54 | kruno | we all are when it comes to an undocumented editor lol |
| 15:20.04 | kruno | any eta on the wiki? |
| 15:20.06 | Dinoo | Make a Spire - Train ability (look at barracks - train ) |
| 15:20.07 | SD|GhosT | all 4 listed |
| 15:20.17 | Dinoo | and also edit the Spire unit command cart like the Barracks unit |
| 15:21.16 | Dogmai | Regarding Custom UI bugs >>> http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/26752891 |
| 15:21.49 | depthsofchaos | theres another cool lobby bug, when the host disconnects he sometimes stays in the lobby -.- |
| 15:22.00 | depthsofchaos | and it shalll never start |
| 15:22.21 | deathnight114 | how i edit the command card? |
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| 15:22.45 | Dinoo | On the Units tab, Spire |
| 15:22.48 | Demonette | Under unit |
| 15:22.57 | Dinoo | Ability - Command Tab + |
| 15:23.18 | Dogmai | Darkarbiter you still here mate? |
| 15:23.33 | Darkarbiter | back |
| 15:23.40 | Darkarbiter | well, I forgot about this window |
| 15:23.48 | Darkarbiter | but you just made it flash |
| 15:23.58 | Dinoo | wait, yuo need to edit Ability - Abilities + first |
| 15:24.15 | Dinoo | and add your Spire - Train, and also Queue (5) and Rally |
| 15:24.33 | deathnight114 | no |
| 15:24.36 | deathnight114 | i dont need rally |
| 15:24.41 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 15:24.48 | Dogmai | Darkarbiter whats your info on bnet |
| 15:24.48 | deathnight114 | the unit dies on creation |
| 15:24.49 | kruno | they have everything but IS DEAD in the validators, how retarded :/ |
| 15:24.50 | Dogmai | so i can add you |
| 15:24.52 | deathnight114 | but it will modify a variable |
| 15:25.01 | Darkarbiter | Darkarbiter 265 |
| 15:25.11 | Darkarbiter | and yeh, you don't play melee |
| 15:25.14 | Darkarbiter | I just got promoted to silver |
| 15:25.14 | Dinoo | then on command card, click a empty square, click add, choose any icon, choose command type ability command, ability : Spire - Train, Ability Command : Train Muta |
| 15:25.38 | SD|GhosT | @darknight so apparently my near-empty map is screwed up, as soon as i delete and re-add the dependency i crash the map editor! |
| 15:25.38 | deathnight114 | uhh |
| 15:25.42 | deathnight114 | I can't find command card |
| 15:25.44 | deathnight114 | :| |
| 15:25.52 | deathnight114 | darknight? |
| 15:25.55 | deathnight114 | i'm deathnight |
| 15:25.55 | Demonette | under the unit datas |
| 15:25.57 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 15:26.06 | deathnight114 | and i have no idea |
| 15:26.07 | Demonette | there is the command card |
| 15:26.08 | SD|GhosT | i like dark better lol my bad |
| 15:26.08 | deathnight114 | :\ |
| 15:26.12 | Dinoo | Ability - Command Card |
| 15:26.20 | kruno | Blizzard are the only developers I know that have made composition a difficult process |
| 15:26.56 | Darkarbiter | composition of what |
| 15:26.57 | Darkarbiter | maps? |
| 15:27.04 | kruno | objects |
| 15:27.09 | depthsofchaos | blizzard is the only developer that spend 100 million on a piece of crap :o |
| 15:27.22 | kruno | my issue is there is no documentation |
| 15:27.35 | kruno | not counting community based stuff |
| 15:27.36 | Dinoo | 100 million was actually the wow budget |
| 15:27.50 | SD|GhosT | i dont recall the first SCEditor having docs either |
| 15:27.52 | kruno | I am guessing WoW has lots of documentation? |
| 15:27.58 | SD|GhosT | they said the same thing "open up a already made map" |
| 15:28.04 | depthsofchaos | 100? i read an articel, it said its sc2 |
| 15:28.28 | Dinoo | yeah, everybody thought it was sc2 |
| 15:28.31 | depthsofchaos | still, took them 7 yeras to make this crap |
| 15:28.34 | kruno | ghost: I would have thought that times have changed, look at unreal ed, id engines, etc... |
| 15:28.37 | depthsofchaos | years* |
| 15:28.41 | Dinoo | but then Blizzard came out and said it was acutally a part of the wow budget |
| 15:28.56 | kruno | source engine is very well documented |
| 15:29.02 | kruno | by valve no less |
| 15:29.04 | SD|GhosT | @kruno true, but not suprising |
| 15:29.14 | Darkarbiter | I dunno |
| 15:29.19 | Darkarbiter | there seems to be lots of tutorials at least |
| 15:29.21 | Darkarbiter | unlike other games |
| 15:29.27 | depthsofchaos | the editor is not directly supported by blizzard yet thy sell the game by promoting custom maps xD |
| 15:29.31 | depthsofchaos | haha irony |
| 15:29.46 | kruno | dude, that "not supported" is purely for tech support reasons |
| 15:29.49 | ubdead | classic marketing |
| 15:29.56 | SD|GhosT | dang, i'm crashing the edior left and right, and all i wanted to do was look at Nova's stats and stuff |
| 15:29.57 | kruno | imagine the calls they'd get if everyone complained |
| 15:29.58 | depthsofchaos | tech reasons ? |
| 15:30.04 | depthsofchaos | i dont see it being supported :o |
| 15:30.04 | Darkarbiter | it's not directly supported |
| 15:30.05 | Darkarbiter | but they still fix bugs |
| 15:30.08 | Darkarbiter | so little else matters |
| 15:30.12 | kruno | tech support: my keyboard doesn't work |
| 15:30.16 | depthsofchaos | like the current bnet system?:o |
| 15:30.20 | depthsofchaos | when will that get ficex |
| 15:30.22 | depthsofchaos | fixed |
| 15:30.33 | Dinoo | what about the bnet system ? |
| 15:30.36 | Darkarbiter | you know what needs fixing |
| 15:30.39 | kruno | hopefully afte rthey releease the editor wikia |
| 15:30.40 | Darkarbiter | the current bnet 2.0 players |
| 15:30.45 | Darkarbiter | they're quite rude |
| 15:30.47 | Darkarbiter | FIX ASAP BLUE POST |
| 15:30.58 | Dinoo | btw, publishing is still down ? |
| 15:31.05 | Dinoo | (in europe) |
| 15:31.09 | depthsofchaos | the current bnet is a piece of crap 0 use for custom mpas |
| 15:31.14 | depthsofchaos | it never was down |
| 15:31.19 | kruno | honestly, I have spent at least 10 minutes trying to find a validator that sees dead people |
| 15:31.48 | Maul | name it bruce willis |
| 15:31.53 | kruno | lol |
| 15:31.57 | Darkarbiter | dead people? |
| 15:32.01 | kruno | I am creating one now |
| 15:32.06 | kruno | heroes that died |
| 15:32.25 | kruno | it sees "Is Alive" |
| 15:32.30 | kruno | but not "Is Dead" |
| 15:32.40 | kruno | and there is no "not" validator |
| 15:32.46 | Darkarbiter | how about |
| 15:32.48 | Darkarbiter | damn |
| 15:32.53 | Darkarbiter | is not alive |
| 15:32.57 | Darkarbiter | how about |
| 15:33.03 | Dinoo | there "Is Dead" and "Not Dead" |
| 15:33.03 | Darkarbiter | if is alive |
| 15:33.06 | Dinoo | as validators |
| 15:33.08 | Darkarbiter | set var isalive to 1 |
| 15:33.10 | ubdead | kruno sure there is |
| 15:33.25 | ubdead | you can choose the operator |
| 15:33.27 | Dinoo | actually IsDead and Not Dead |
| 15:34.10 | kruno | fuck, it is there, I didn't see it :/ |
| 15:34.32 | kruno | right below IsDarkProtossReached |
| 15:34.39 | SD|GhosT | i think i should give up... tried a blank map and i'm still crashing the editor when I try to go into it w/ Campaign Story Mode dependency |
| 15:34.54 | kruno | thanks guys |
| 15:35.49 | ubdead | SD|GhosT did you try putting the dependency at the top of the list? |
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| 15:36.01 | Ashamed | so guys guess what i did! |
| 15:36.33 | SD|GhosT | @ubdead; all dependencies, place nova on a blank new map, hit Data button, crash |
| 15:37.07 | Ashamed | Thats not normal just do it agian |
| 15:37.10 | Ashamed | No one here? |
| 15:37.11 | AsaPhelps | try moving your campaign dependicies to the top or just using campaign dependicies |
| 15:37.22 | AsaPhelps | and yes I spelled dependecies wrong |
| 15:37.34 | Ashamed | Asaphelps guess what i did |
| 15:37.45 | Ashamed | ... I finally deleted my beta folders!!! |
| 15:37.48 | Ashamed | and.... |
| 15:37.59 | Ashamed | I forogt my map folder was still in my beta folderf >< |
| 15:38.06 | Ashamed | I just los all of my data |
| 15:38.10 | Ashamed | lost* |
| 15:38.12 | Ashamed | :( |
| 15:38.29 | Ashamed | and i was up until like 3 am making so many tweaks! |
| 15:38.32 | SD|GhosT | ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xC0000005) |
| 15:38.32 | SD|GhosT | occurred at 0023:0123394F. The memory at '0x00000000' could not be read. |
| 15:38.35 | AsaPhelps | I kept my beta but I saved my maps on my desktop |
| 15:38.35 | SD|GhosT | always the same thing |
| 15:38.52 | AsaPhelps | which nova are you using |
| 15:38.56 | AsaPhelps | a cinematic one? |
| 15:38.58 | SD|GhosT | the one in the hero folder |
| 15:38.58 | Ashamed | just when you open data with nova on map? |
| 15:39.14 | SD|GhosT | new map, drop nova in the middle |
| 15:39.23 | SD|GhosT | open up data, eitehr crash or she doesnt show up, close data editor and crash |
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| 15:40.02 | Ashamed | i am going to try |
| 15:40.07 | kruno | when I get this done, I am throwing a party :/ |
| 15:40.16 | Ashamed | i know i put every hero on my map and everything worked fine |
| 15:40.24 | Ashamed | so i don't think nova would be any differnt |
| 15:40.49 | SD|GhosT | finally not crashing but nova is not showing up in the data editor |
| 15:40.53 | Ashamed | are you useing both melee and campaign? |
| 15:40.58 | SD|GhosT | yeah |
| 15:41.01 | Ashamed | your depend is not loaded anymore |
| 15:41.08 | Ashamed | reload the campaign depend |
| 15:41.37 | SD|GhosT | Liberty (mod) -> Liberty Multi -> Liberty (Campaign) -> Liberty Story |
| 15:41.42 | SD|GhosT | thats the order |
| 15:42.52 | Ashamed | huh |
| 15:42.59 | Ashamed | and when you are adding it its loading it up right? |
| 15:43.03 | SD|GhosT | yeah |
| 15:43.12 | SD|GhosT | placed her down, but when i go into data screen nothing |
| 15:43.19 | Ashamed | wow |
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| 15:43.37 | Ashamed | are you creating the map with the depends or adding it? |
| 15:43.52 | SD|GhosT | new map w/ |
| 15:44.01 | Ashamed | lets try to add campaign on |
| 15:44.08 | Ashamed | so create a normal map and don't modify that part |
| 15:44.11 | SD|GhosT | k |
| 15:44.32 | Ashamed | then go to file depends > andd both campaigns at the bottom |
| 15:44.35 | Ashamed | and see if that works |
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| 15:45.20 | SD|GhosT | same behavior |
| 15:45.33 | SD|GhosT | placeable on map editor, nothing in data editor for nova |
| 15:45.34 | Ashamed | i think your broked it |
| 15:45.38 | SD|GhosT | :-( |
| 15:45.41 | Ashamed | you* |
| 15:45.49 | Ashamed | hmmm |
| 15:46.02 | Ashamed | what terrain are you using? |
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| 15:46.14 | SD|GhosT | Aiur |
| 15:46.15 | SD|GhosT | second one |
| 15:46.34 | Ashamed | size? |
| 15:46.42 | SD|GhosT | base height 8, random height 20% strength 60% variablity, 200x200 |
| 15:47.33 | SD|GhosT | type map, dependencies Melee (then added them) as you suggested |
| 15:47.40 | SD|GhosT | (them = campaign) |
| 15:48.51 | Ashamed | well ghost.. i think there is a good thing to this!! |
| 15:48.56 | Ashamed | Its the map thats doing it |
| 15:49.01 | SD|GhosT | huh? |
| 15:49.04 | Ashamed | created same map and nova is no longer there for me |
| 15:49.05 | Ashamed | :) |
| 15:49.08 | SD|GhosT | lol |
| 15:49.08 | Ashamed | so tis a glitch |
| 15:49.21 | SD|GhosT | well, i removed the Liberty Multiplayer dependency |
| 15:49.31 | SD|GhosT | and i've been able to go in and out of the data editor 2x now w/ nova there |
| 15:49.45 | Ashamed | yeah nova = not even there for me |
| 15:49.52 | SD|GhosT | fun |
| 15:50.16 | Fisker | i have nova |
| 15:50.22 | Ashamed | with same exact map? |
| 15:50.29 | Fisker | what map |
| 15:50.37 | Fisker | oh |
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| 15:51.45 | Darkarbiter_ | hey |
| 15:52.41 | Ashamed | i got nova to show too |
| 15:52.47 | Ashamed | but yeah data = gone |
| 15:53.03 | SD|GhosT | its very ... wierd |
| 15:53.10 | SD|GhosT | glad its not just me |
| 15:53.11 | Fisker | the hyperion is mad btw |
| 15:53.12 | Fisker | MAD |
| 15:53.36 | kruno | general duke still in sc2? |
| 15:54.20 | Ashamed | ghost yeah good find |
| 15:54.24 | Ashamed | I have no clue ^^ |
| 15:54.29 | kruno | anyone here actually play the game? lol |
| 15:55.37 | SD|GhosT | i do |
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| 15:57.52 | RodOfIPOD | playing the game is so 1998 |
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| 15:59.27 | Ashamed | so ghost |
| 15:59.36 | Ashamed | i manged to get nova loaded on map and it data |
| 15:59.45 | Ashamed | but.. her model is not showing up in the editor now lol |
| 15:59.56 | Ashamed | like its just a white sphere |
| 16:00.07 | Ashamed | try making the map without the randon height |
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| 16:00.42 | RedWraith | mmmm |
| 16:03.31 | rrowland | lolwut |
| 16:03.35 | rrowland | achievements: 99% |
| 16:05.14 | SD|GhosT | Ashamed; everything seems fine after i removed the the multiplayer depedency |
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| 16:07.24 | Locutus_ | . |
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| 16:08.37 | Locutus_ | anyone making a good Risk map? |
| 16:08.37 | Locutus_ | because I plan to do so soon |
| 16:08.59 | Ashamed | your reported it right ghost? |
| 16:10.45 | RedWraith | rrowland, what's missing? |
| 16:10.46 | RedWraith | ;) |
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| 16:11.01 | RedWraith | We should start a multiplayer group for playing maps that aren't in the top 30 |
| 16:11.01 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 16:11.16 | SD|GhosT | ashamed: reported it where? i sent in the crash reports |
| 16:11.16 | r9k | RedWraith, thats what I said earlier |
| 16:11.20 | r9k | Map Nights |
| 16:12.01 | r9k | Beside, if anyone needs help testing his map. Just tell me I'll help you |
| 16:13.02 | ubdead | wow |
| 16:13.17 | RedWraith | r9k |
| 16:13.20 | ubdead | i totally forgot that all the SCV quotes are from Full Metal Jacket |
| 16:13.22 | RedWraith | What's your name/tag? |
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| 16:13.43 | RedWraith | TheLaughingMan, what's your name/code if you do have one? >_> |
| 16:13.55 | TheLaughingMan | why |
| 16:14.02 | kruno | r9k: I noticed that myself |
| 16:14.07 | rrowland | so we can get your real id and hunt you |
| 16:14.11 | kruno | I mean ubdead |
| 16:14.21 | r9k | Toto 915 |
| 16:14.21 | RedWraith | because I want to add you >_> |
| 16:14.29 | RedWraith | and play custom games with you |
| 16:14.34 | RedWraith | and live in harmony harmony oh love |
| 16:14.34 | TheLaughingMan | I haven't bought SC2 yet |
| 16:14.38 | RedWraith | :( |
| 16:14.46 | kruno | why don't you two go on chatroulette? ;) |
| 16:15.10 | r9k | Anyone who needs help testing his map, just add Toto 915 |
| 16:16.22 | ubdead | brb groceries |
| 16:16.44 | Penguinator36 | 85% of chatroulette is either people masturbating or guys holding up signs for girls to show their boobs |
| 16:17.05 | TheLaughingMan | Penguinator36, not anymore |
| 16:18.26 | Locutus_ | so they got tired of masterbating on there? |
| 16:18.34 | kruno | I met my ex on chatroulette |
| 16:19.03 | TheLaughingMan | ? |
| 16:19.09 | kruno | ex girlfriend |
| 16:19.24 | TheLaughingMan | as in you met her and became gf/bf and broke up? |
| 16:19.32 | TheLaughingMan | or you met her after you broke up |
| 16:19.38 | kruno | former |
| 16:20.06 | kruno | take a guess the condition we met under? |
| 16:20.17 | kruno | on chatroulette |
| 16:20.26 | TheLaughingMan | you masterbatting |
| 16:20.34 | kruno | how did you know? |
| 16:20.40 | kruno | are you her? |
| 16:20.49 | AsaPhelps | does anyone have an idea on how to change movers of a unit? |
| 16:20.54 | kruno | ps: I am only kidding around |
| 16:21.31 | kruno | south park pretty much summed up chatroulette |
| 16:21.49 | kruno | units have movers? you mean wheels/legs? |
| 16:22.07 | AsaPhelps | i mean how they move |
| 16:22.25 | kruno | graphically or logically? |
| 16:22.30 | RedWraith | wraith.852 |
| 16:22.33 | RedWraith | everybody |
| 16:22.59 | AsaPhelps | I'm trying to make a missile that has supressed movement drop down |
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| 16:33.46 | r9k | I need some testers, anyone got time ? |
| 16:34.00 | RodOfNOD | are playernames case sensitive in game? |
| 16:34.24 | RodOfNOD | if i entered my name originally like this RodOfNOD will i see that or rodofnod on the leaderboard |
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| 16:41.51 | Nesetalis | hey, where is an up to date guide on creating units? |
| 16:47.28 | Vailreth | hello folks |
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| 16:47.58 | Vailreth | any one know who was going to work on a Tiberium Universe mod for sc2? |
| 16:50.05 | RodOfNOD | idk but i definately will be working on something related to cnc |
| 16:50.28 | RodOfNOD | so i have figured out somehting that people have been screaming for |
| 16:50.32 | Vailreth | ah i think i have figured out how to make a MCV |
| 16:50.40 | RodOfNOD | i can tell you if the player in slot has my name |
| 16:50.49 | RodOfNOD | cool |
| 16:51.05 | RodOfNOD | im still working on getting the players name |
| 16:51.31 | Ashamed | ok what do you have to do to add a unit to the token list for actors?? |
| 16:51.33 | RodOfNOD | but i can actual test if a player has Vailreth in player slot 1-14 |
| 16:51.35 | Ashamed | for some reason i cant seem to do it |
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| 16:55.21 | Vailreth | cool |
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| 17:04.03 | QuaYeR | Hi All |
| 17:04.22 | Petoj | i have a small question in new to the data editor.. but here is what i have done, i created a Item Class then i wanted to create an Item, but when im in the Create dialog the Item Class dropdown is empty why? |
| 17:04.56 | QuaYeR | Hi Lilianna ^^ |
| 17:05.48 | QuaYeR | is it possible to create units at random places in one region? not in the middle only? |
| 17:06.09 | Lilianna | dunno, never tried! |
| 17:06.11 | Fisker | just make multiple points >:3 |
| 17:06.21 | RodOfNOD | yes QuaYeR |
| 17:06.25 | QuaYeR | cant make multiple points for this map.. |
| 17:06.28 | QuaYeR | how? |
| 17:07.39 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.45 | RodOfNOD | ull have to run that through a loop |
| 17:07.55 | RodOfNOD | but every time it should make a new unit at a different point in the region |
| 17:08.03 | Petoj | QuaYeR: Use the Random Point In Region function |
| 17:08.16 | QuaYeR | omg thanks, didnt find that trigger.... |
| 17:08.19 | RodOfNOD | to slow |
| 17:08.33 | RodOfNOD | its not a trigger |
| 17:08.39 | RodOfNOD | its a function :> |
| 17:09.02 | QuaYeR | whatever^^ |
| 17:09.06 | RodOfNOD | blizzard u bastards |
| 17:09.08 | Lilianna | Trigger is just a shell for stuffs! |
| 17:09.13 | RodOfNOD | just trying to help the education :> |
| 17:09.29 | Zanam | I'm having some trouble getting a projectile in the air, instead of skimming on the ground. tried changing movers, projectile unit's height value, actors, can't seem to find the magic that makes the height matter |
| 17:09.33 | QuaYeR | any german speaking people here now? |
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| 17:09.54 | Markus3832 | Hey Rod :D Long time no see! |
| 17:10.21 | RodOfNOD | hi |
| 17:11.12 | Petoj | ok i had to restart the mapeditor to get the Item classes... wtf? |
| 17:12.33 | Ashamed | i feel like the editor got worse since the beta |
| 17:13.59 | RodOfNOD | in what way Ashamed ? |
| 17:14.11 | Ashamed | i cant make units any more!! |
| 17:14.22 | Ashamed | lsat night i was having the same problem.. but finally one just worked |
| 17:14.40 | Ashamed | The token on the actor is not finding the new unit i am creating |
| 17:14.54 | Ashamed | ... like when i create the units they are "created" nameless for somereason |
| 17:15.48 | QuaYeR | german editor is funny.... i cant find that "random point in region" funtion -.- |
| 17:15.54 | TheLaughingMan | www.facebook.com/profile.php?=742364506 |
| 17:16.07 | Vailreth | do you have the camoaign dependancies active Ashamed? |
| 17:16.28 | Ashamed | yeah.. i was just going to say its like the campaign depend fucks the data up |
| 17:16.40 | Vailreth | yeah it does. |
| 17:16.55 | Ashamed | so is there a fix? |
| 17:17.12 | Vailreth | not until blizzard makes a new patch i guess.. |
| 17:17.25 | Ashamed | so we still can't use any of their new shit >< lol |
| 17:17.31 | Ashamed | like i can't even duplicate units |
| 17:17.42 | TheLaughingMan | You have to make sure the campaign dependency is first |
| 17:17.54 | Vailreth | i have it beneath core |
| 17:18.04 | Vailreth | and it works just fine. |
| 17:18.18 | RodOfNOD | TheLaughingMan: have u played with this function? Text workName has been set |
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| 17:18.39 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 17:18.52 | RodOfNOD | ok has anyone played with this function: Text workName has been set |
| 17:19.20 | Vailreth | not me |
| 17:19.25 | Ashamed | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.31 | Ashamed | didn't change anything |
| 17:19.38 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 17:19.41 | Ashamed | ERG |
| 17:19.47 | RodOfNOD | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 17:19.53 | RodOfNOD | damn u blizzard why do u pain me so much |
| 17:20.40 | Zanam | Unit height, is there some magic trick to making it work properly |
| 17:21.18 | Ashamed | rod i feel you lol |
| 17:21.20 | RodOfNOD | explain Zanam |
| 17:21.29 | RodOfNOD | its like 2001 all over again :P |
| 17:21.41 | RodOfNOD | Ashamed: have u played with that function? |
| 17:21.45 | Ashamed | LAST night i decided to delete my beta to clear it off my computer > forgot my map folder was still in it :( |
| 17:21.54 | RodOfNOD | it says its supposed to return true if the text paarameter is not null |
| 17:22.00 | Ashamed | no i am just tired of teh editor messing up |
| 17:22.02 | RodOfNOD | ouch |
| 17:22.11 | QuaYeR | Get Data Back for NTFS is nice to get ur deleted files back |
| 17:22.17 | RodOfNOD | first thing i did was move mine hehe |
| 17:22.19 | Zanam | I have a projectile unit create from an effect, which is thus created from a trigger. it's all for a collision detection system that works perfectly right now. only problem is I can't get that projectile unit off the ground, with actors, triggers, movers... nothing seems to work |
| 17:22.33 | Ashamed | lol |
| 17:22.36 | Ashamed | i lost everything |
| 17:22.44 | RodOfNOD | no backup? |
| 17:22.44 | QuaYeR | use this app |
| 17:22.46 | RodOfNOD | are u serious? |
| 17:22.48 | Ashamed | i had just created two really cool towers and everything for my TD |
| 17:23.00 | Ashamed | My back up i thought was in my beta ! |
| 17:23.09 | Ashamed | I swear i remebered transfering it over |
| 17:23.10 | RodOfNOD | and it was :> |
| 17:23.14 | QuaYeR | use "Get Data Back", u wil lfind alot of deleted things |
| 17:23.22 | Ashamed | get data back?? from where |
| 17:23.25 | RodOfNOD | if he hasnt written over it |
| 17:24.00 | RodOfNOD | idk zanam i can tell u that there is a height field in the data editor for units |
| 17:24.49 | Zanam | yeah, that was the obvious first place to check, but it didnt do anything. i'll put this to the backburner then... work on something else. |
| 17:25.08 | QuaYeR | i cant find that function!! |
| 17:25.12 | Zanam | it's a cosmetic thing. |
| 17:25.32 | Ashamed | will that still work quayer if windows deleted it without sending to recycle?? |
| 17:25.46 | QuaYeR | yes |
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| 17:28.04 | QuaYeR | some month ago my harddrive crashed completely and i get all my data back (465 GB) |
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| 17:28.35 | QuaYeR | *got, get, got got get -.- |
| 17:29.42 | QuaYeR | mhh i can find "create units at point" but not in region... |
| 17:29.56 | Nesetalis | so, tutorial says give the Unit Type of CUnit.. but all i have is Generic and its greyed out.. am I missing something? |
| 17:31.50 | goomba_ | pretty sure those 2 are the same thing nesetalis |
| 17:32.01 | goomba_ | just cunit was the name used during the beta |
| 17:32.05 | goomba_ | or something to that effect |
| 17:32.23 | Nesetalis | ahh ok |
| 17:35.30 | Paras1te | where the hell in cmapaign was Mike Liberty ;p? |
| 17:38.16 | Nesetalis | wewt got it working right. |
| 17:40.53 | Vailreth | damit the editor chrashed and i was almost done with my conyard too.. |
| 17:45.11 | QuaYeR | wow 1 german word |
| 17:45.27 | QuaYeR | mh no 2 |
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| 17:50.06 | Lilianna | QuaYeR, I think you want Create Units at Point, then when you choose the point, you goto the function, Random point in region |
| 17:51.08 | goomba_ | theres also a center of region function |
| 17:51.15 | Lilianna | he wanted random point |
| 17:51.20 | goomba_ | o |
| 17:51.24 | goomba_ | well then yeah :P |
| 17:51.36 | Lilianna | hehe |
| 17:51.45 | QuaYeR | ahhh thank you |
| 17:51.51 | Lilianna | :) |
| 17:51.56 | QuaYeR | why i never find such things... |
| 17:52.07 | Lilianna | Its okay, you learn more and morea s you go |
| 17:52.21 | QuaYeR | want old starcraft editor back xD |
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| 17:53.43 | Lilianna | >.> |
| 17:56.19 | RodOfNOD | QuaYeR: i told u what to do |
| 17:56.31 | RodOfNOD | :P |
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| 17:57.35 | QuaYeR | but didnt find it^^ |
| 17:57.46 | QuaYeR | Lilianna explains better ^^ |
| 17:57.50 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 17:57.57 | RodOfNOD | yes perhaps so |
| 17:57.59 | Lilianna | Hehe |
| 18:00.04 | RodOfNOD | so im wondering..... if i take a standard unit like a marine. and i change one thing it creates a new data set with just that one change. Then blizzard comes by with patch #2 will the marine i made have all the changes except for the one thing i changed? |
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| 18:00.28 | RodOfNOD | but if i then duplicate the marine it will not be updated with any changes is that correct? |
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| 18:01.21 | Lilianna | no idea |
| 18:01.29 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 18:01.30 | Ashamed_ | Quayer i got them back thx |
| 18:01.33 | RodOfNOD | i think thats how it works |
| 18:01.35 | Lilianna | they could overwrite your change |
| 18:01.41 | QuaYeR | np |
| 18:01.42 | RodOfNOD | i dont think so |
| 18:01.53 | RodOfNOD | cuz the only thing that i have changed IS that field |
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| 18:04.41 | Dinoo | re |
| 18:06.32 | Ashamed_ | erg i wrote over my defense :( |
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| 18:09.14 | Kakera | I decided to give a second try at my rpg. >.> But I still need to fix the stupid C-141 AC gun sound. |
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| 18:11.52 | Zanam | it appears i need a partner with more experience than I to finish this small project. would anyone be interested in assisting me making... a gaem w1th z0mb1es in 1t (there's a reference here if anyone gets it) |
| 18:12.44 | Kakera | I think someone is making a zombie map already, you two should team up and combine what you're doing to make a greater map for the greater good. :D |
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| 18:13.07 | Zanam | it's an xbox live arcade game with that title, i'm simply trying to recreate it. |
| 18:13.27 | slightlyrandom | What are you having problems with ? |
| 18:14.51 | Zanam | three things seem to be my stump. a) a beam effect not related to a unit's weapon, summoned by an effect. b) all my projectiles work with the collision detection system, sfx, sounds, etc... but i can't them off the ground, no matter what i try. they skim along the surface. c) spawning the zombies in a 'burrowed' state, making them unburrow at a slower pace than what is currently in-game. |
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| 18:17.08 | Kakera | So where do I go to preview sounds? |
| 18:17.22 | slightlyrandom | Open the previewer :P |
| 18:17.46 | slightlyrandom | Zanam: Are you projectiles using a Fly mover ? |
| 18:17.58 | Kakera | I did that, and sounds don't play. |
| 18:18.11 | slightlyrandom | What are you previewing ? |
| 18:18.16 | slightlyrandom | The animations or the sounds? |
| 18:18.16 | Kakera | Sounds. |
| 18:18.25 | slightlyrandom | Well, it works for me, so you're doing something wrong |
| 18:18.38 | Zanam | slightlyrandom: I've tried a few different movers, each marked as an Air mover. Do you mean the actual mover called Fly? |
| 18:18.45 | Dedo | you need to add a normal model first, like an assimulator for sounds to play |
| 18:18.50 | slightlyrandom | Well, they gotta move on the Fly plane |
| 18:18.52 | Dedo | and you need to press "add" not "load" |
| 18:19.00 | slightlyrandom | Movement - Plane : Fly |
| 18:19.17 | Zanam | Yup, they do. And have a height set on the unit, and have also tried an actor event that sets the height on unitbirth |
| 18:19.26 | slightlyrandom | I think it'll auto set those things if you create the projectile as a Missile |
| 18:19.28 | Kakera | Having to use a model to hear sounds is stupid, but I'll try. If it really works, it's still a stupid system. >.> |
| 18:19.34 | slightlyrandom | Height has nothing to do with pathing |
| 18:19.41 | slightlyrandom | You don't Kakera |
| 18:20.13 | Dedo | you can always just make a vane action in a trigger "play sound" and you get a comfortable list of all sounds with a simple preview button, and when you'ew sonw, delete the action, thats what I do |
| 18:20.20 | RodOfNOD | is all u want is to hear the sounds Kakera ? |
| 18:20.27 | Kakera | I open the previewer. I go in the LocalizedData, then Sounds, and then the TerranUnitVO, then Marine, then Marrine_Attack01 |
| 18:20.30 | Kakera | It doesn't work |
| 18:20.38 | Dedo | you'ew sonw? you're done***** |
| 18:20.47 | Dedo | kakera read up |
| 18:21.15 | Zanam | slightlyrandom: The units were based off of a missile to begin with, the longbolt missile. They are marked as a projectile object type in the editor. |
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| 18:21.33 | slightlyrandom | Well, if something ain't working, compare it to something that does |
| 18:22.06 | slightlyrandom | (ctrl + click) |
| 18:22.37 | Zanam | Oh... didn't know that trick. Handy |
| 18:22.55 | Zanam | Any clue on the other two issues? |
| 18:23.08 | slightlyrandom | I have no idea on the beams, sorry |
| 18:23.11 | slightlyrandom | never toyed with em |
| 18:23.39 | Zanam | Doesn't seem many people have. I can do without it, it's a cosmetic thing, same with the height issue really. |
| 18:23.45 | slightlyrandom | As for the burrow, you might be able to slow down the burrowed actor |
| 18:24.02 | slightlyrandom | There's a speed thing, can't recall what its called |
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| 18:24.32 | Zanam | Hmm... I think I remember a speed one, but assumed it was related to unit speed, not animation. I'll tinker around with the actor |
| 18:24.59 | slightlyrandom | There's something on the actor that determines how fast the unit animates; walk, attack and so on animations |
| 18:25.20 | slightlyrandom | It won't work if the largest part of the animation happens on the regular unit, of course |
| 18:25.49 | Zanam | thanks, i'll take a look at it. And per your suggestion, changed my launchmissile effect to a standard projectile already in-game, still the same issue occurs. It must be a problem with my effects themselves |
| 18:25.55 | slightlyrandom | If that doesn't work, you'll need some help from someone who has more experience with actor events and that stuff |
| 18:27.01 | Kakera | How do I change the sound an item makes while attacking? I think I found the right sound, but I don't know how to replace the sound the item does (as in, nonexistant right now). |
| 18:27.23 | slightlyrandom | Pick a weapon that works, right click the sound it uses and click "Explain Link" |
| 18:29.03 | Rayden | ok |
| 18:29.09 | Rayden | where are all the campaign units in the editor? |
| 18:29.12 | Rayden | i don't see any |
| 18:29.16 | slightlyrandom | Add dependencies |
| 18:29.24 | slightlyrandom | Remove the melee ones, add the campaign ones |
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| 18:30.18 | Rayden | what's the difference between campaign and storymode? |
| 18:31.23 | Rayden | oh storymode is the cutscene stuff? |
| 18:31.29 | QuaYeR | yay, now i need a incomesystem |
| 18:31.45 | slightlyrandom | Pawn your stuff, fella |
| 18:33.41 | Zanam | Another quick question, more editor related, if I stay on the terrain editor for too long, it seems to leak memory and eventually need to be restarted. Is this common or do I have a setting wrong |
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| 18:38.30 | RodOfNOD | mac editor has a really annoying error where it clicks past the window for some reason |
| 18:39.20 | Kakera | It also does that to me, Zanam |
| 18:39.39 | Kakera | Stuff doesn't appear and I gotta restart to modify and add things. |
| 18:39.55 | Kakera | I can save first though, all fine and everything works after the restart. |
| 18:43.48 | depthsofchaos | hehe im so sure blizzard will sell cross realm play :o |
| 18:43.53 | Fromethius | slightlyrandom: any idea on how to make a medivac heal while moving? |
| 18:44.10 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, you need to set a flag on the ability to allow it to be cast while moving |
| 18:44.16 | Fromethius | Allow Movement |
| 18:44.19 | Fromethius | it's already checked |
| 18:44.22 | Fromethius | doesn't work still |
| 18:44.48 | slightlyrandom | Well, check the Pheonix, that bugger can use stuff while moving |
| 18:45.02 | slightlyrandom | So, clearly it's different in some important way :) |
| 18:45.03 | Fromethius | yeah the weapon has an option |
| 18:45.06 | Fromethius | for all movement |
| 18:45.09 | Fromethius | same thing with lolrays |
| 18:45.14 | Fromethius | but not abilities i suppose? |
| 18:45.17 | slightlyrandom | and this doesn't apply to abilities ? |
| 18:45.23 | Fromethius | nope, i don't think |
| 18:45.25 | Kakera | Oh my god, if I want the Terran Infantry Weapon upgrades to add to my hero's weapon damage, I have to set up every weapon level upgrade individually? |
| 18:46.00 | slightlyrandom | Well, that's me fresh out of ideas. And I can't access the data editor and have a poke around, sorry |
| 18:46.01 | Kakera | Screw upgrades, the upgrades will be a better gun, none of that +1 damage for 100 minerals and 100 gas. |
| 18:46.08 | slightlyrandom | :D |
| 18:46.43 | Kakera | What should I use for a weapon shop? I thought about engineering bay since it's kinda where you make your upgrades for infantry, but I also need an armor shop. |
| 18:46.59 | RodOfNOD | if ur gonna make heroes from wc3 in sc2 u will have lots of fun pain |
| 18:47.10 | Kakera | I know right |
| 18:47.17 | Kakera | I've got my hero all set up from level 1-10 |
| 18:47.26 | Kakera | But I need to make the items, and THAT is the royal pain. |
| 18:47.50 | Kakera | I'm not even to the point where I script quest, or quest rewards |
| 18:48.19 | Kakera | And certainly not even close to making cinematics to make the experience smoother |
| 18:49.27 | Rayden | there are lots of nice terran spaceships to use in custom maps |
| 18:49.36 | ubdead|afk | hey |
| 18:49.41 | RodOfNOD | yep |
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| 18:49.46 | RodOfNOD | but no floaty boats :P |
| 18:49.52 | ubdead | have you guys noticed that maximizing the game |
| 18:49.58 | ubdead | takes way longer then in beta? |
| 18:50.00 | ubdead | or is it just me |
| 18:50.07 | monoframe | well, because more content |
| 18:50.10 | Kakera | In order, I'm gonna have to script a few items, then the computer and how it will work (mostly 'stay there and wait for hero to kill you' but some events might require more), and then I make some terrain. Then I design some quests, some more items, some scripts for fun (like marines spawning to fight against recently spawned zerglings from a nearby indestructible zerg base) and more and more |
| 18:50.10 | Rayden | i dont play windowed |
| 18:50.17 | RodOfNOD | what do u mean by maximizing do u mean the save feature? |
| 18:50.18 | monoframe | which it has to center about |
| 18:50.31 | ubdead | i mean when you alt tab out of the game |
| 18:50.33 | ubdead | and then go back in |
| 18:50.38 | RodOfNOD | ah |
| 18:50.41 | ubdead | it used to be instantly |
| 18:50.44 | RodOfNOD | use windows :P |
| 18:50.47 | ubdead | but now its 10 secs for me :S |
| 18:50.55 | monoframe | Also it dpends on the system you're using |
| 18:50.56 | Kakera | Slow for me too |
| 18:51.02 | monoframe | ubdead, how much RAM do you have? |
| 18:51.18 | ubdead | 9gb triple channel lol |
| 18:51.23 | monoframe | ohlol |
| 18:51.41 | ubdead | around 1300mhz clockspeed i think |
| 18:51.45 | ubdead | so |
| 18:51.47 | monoframe | And for HDD? |
| 18:51.53 | ubdead | SSD |
| 18:51.56 | monoframe | :| |
| 18:51.59 | monoframe | srsly |
| 18:52.03 | ubdead | yep lol |
| 18:52.11 | monoframe | You're sitting on a server or whaT? |
| 18:52.12 | monoframe | :P |
| 18:52.15 | ubdead | nope lol |
| 18:52.25 | ubdead | i like having a fast computer lol |
| 18:52.26 | RodOfNOD | u have issues cuz i dont even have that problem on my mac ubdead |
| 18:52.31 | monoframe | Don't tell you have one of those two-CPU motherboards |
| 18:52.33 | monoframe | :P |
| 18:52.36 | RodOfNOD | and my mac is a dog |
| 18:52.47 | ubdead | no i have a meager intel i920 :P |
| 18:53.17 | monoframe | uhm, and how's F.lux? |
| 18:53.19 | monoframe | :) |
| 18:53.24 | ubdead | no i had it before |
| 18:53.37 | ubdead | also flux should be kicking in around now :D |
| 18:53.46 | ubdead | but i set it to 1 hour transition |
| 18:53.53 | monoframe | yeah, that one is better :P |
| 18:53.55 | ubdead | ill try maximized window mode |
| 18:53.58 | ubdead | that should work |
| 18:54.21 | monoframe | I just played TF2 in ctf_well, so it was really nice to see it sorta "change time of the day" :P |
| 18:54.56 | RodOfNOD | anyone here on a mac if so what are u using to extract mpq files? |
| 18:55.03 | monoframe | but really, with this the monitor doesn't just blatantly poke in, whenever it hits your view |
| 18:55.32 | monoframe | except maybe for the oh-so-obvious refresh rate |
| 18:55.55 | ubdead | hehe :D |
| 18:55.59 | ubdead | Tf2 rules :D |
| 18:56.01 | ubdead | MAGGOTS |
| 18:56.36 | ubdead | also fullscreen (windowed) kinda fixes it |
| 18:56.41 | ubdead | but cant see my desktop |
| 18:56.46 | ubdead | because now it wont minimize |
| 18:56.58 | ubdead | but doesnt really matter |
| 18:57.05 | ubdead | can still put other programs on top |
| 18:57.08 | depthsofchaos | ~seen Phaos |
| 18:57.10 | purl | phaos <~Rorax@203.160.116.94> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 15h 35m 55s ago, saying: 'lol that mission is easy in general, just build a second command center and plonk it down next to each altar'. |
| 18:57.22 | ubdead | spoiler alert |
| 18:57.28 | monoframe | GAWD DAMET |
| 18:57.29 | depthsofchaos | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu |
| 18:57.39 | monoframe | you had to |
| 18:57.40 | monoframe | REALLY |
| 18:57.41 | ubdead | phaos even spoils when he's offline lol |
| 18:58.25 | Nesetalis | woah.. the editor, looking at the model preview, just spammed video corruption all over my monitors, weird lines everywhere. even after shutting down the editor. |
| 18:58.37 | Kakera | Hey |
| 18:58.38 | ubdead | your GPU is too hot |
| 18:58.39 | Kakera | I remember that line |
| 18:58.44 | ubdead | turn off your pc |
| 18:58.45 | Kakera | It was when I asked about a particular level |
| 18:58.46 | ubdead | or cook it ;) |
| 18:58.52 | Kakera | It's my fault if he's spoiling even while offline. |
| 18:58.52 | monoframe | rodofnod, i think you might be looking for MPQ extractor |
| 18:58.58 | Nesetalis | its 42C :p |
| 18:58.59 | Nesetalis | its not too hot |
| 18:59.08 | ubdead | well then it's already fucked |
| 18:59.15 | ubdead | what you are seeing are called artifacs |
| 18:59.21 | monoframe | http://www.devklog.net/2007/02/09/mpq-extractor-10/ |
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| 18:59.39 | Kakera | Also, I fixed the C-141 AC's sound |
| 18:59.40 | ubdead | and it's means your gpu is fucked up |
| 18:59.45 | Kakera | Yay. |
| 18:59.45 | Nesetalis | aye. |
| 18:59.54 | monoframe | well, not gpu, memory modules |
| 18:59.56 | monoframe | to most part |
| 18:59.58 | Nesetalis | corrupted memory |
| 19:00.04 | Nesetalis | bad editor, bad D: |
| 19:00.48 | monoframe | I think it could be possible to "disable" several modules with hardware modifications and then assign the video card to alocate some space in RAM for use :P |
| 19:01.16 | monoframe | don't know how you would discern the bad modules from the good ones though |
| 19:01.24 | Nesetalis | how about i try restarting :p |
| 19:01.27 | Nesetalis | brb |
| 19:01.36 | monoframe | Anyways, try increasing spin cycles |
| 19:01.39 | monoframe | of your fan S: |
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| 19:01.51 | monoframe | It helped me with Oblivion |
| 19:01.55 | ubdead | well 42 degrees should be ok |
| 19:01.57 | Nesetalis | um, as i said, 42C |
| 19:01.59 | monoframe | oh |
| 19:02.01 | Nesetalis | it wasnt overheating |
| 19:02.03 | monoframe | then it's hardware problem |
| 19:02.05 | Nesetalis | just corrupted memory |
| 19:02.05 | monoframe | :P |
| 19:02.13 | Nesetalis | very unlikely |
| 19:02.20 | ubdead | you could try removing static electricity |
| 19:02.24 | monoframe | memory can't get corrupt |
| 19:02.27 | ubdead | remove your power cord |
| 19:02.27 | Nesetalis | yes it can |
| 19:02.30 | monoframe | Imean |
| 19:02.34 | ubdead | and press the on button for 10 seconds |
| 19:02.37 | monoframe | not in "your sense" |
| 19:02.53 | Nesetalis | yes in 'my sense' I program in OpenGL frequently, I know what a corrupted video memory state is like. |
| 19:03.11 | monoframe | herpderp I am a programmer herpderp |
| 19:03.21 | ubdead | flamewars |
| 19:03.23 | Nesetalis | my only point in mentioning it, was bad program design, corrupting memorystate. |
| 19:03.27 | Nesetalis | anyway brb |
| 19:03.49 | ubdead | lol ragequit |
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| 19:04.07 | monoframe | on other thought, I would also experience artifacts when using GE S: |
| 19:04.29 | ubdead | you would |
| 19:04.31 | ubdead | or you are |
| 19:04.32 | monoframe | I do |
| 19:04.35 | monoframe | well |
| 19:04.39 | monoframe | I did when using GE beta |
| 19:04.48 | ubdead | i see |
| 19:04.51 | ubdead | well i dont |
| 19:05.01 | monoframe | well, it's sorta missing pixels |
| 19:05.10 | ubdead | my motherboard was hanging one time in the game |
| 19:05.15 | monoframe | and could provoked |
| 19:05.17 | monoframe | be* |
| 19:05.17 | ubdead | like the music skipped |
| 19:05.33 | ubdead | and the game hanged for like miliseconds |
| 19:05.41 | ubdead | dunno where that came from |
| 19:06.25 | monoframe | Remember when I had to plunder with my 20 kilo computer across whole city just to get motherboard replaced <.< |
| 19:06.42 | ubdead | lol |
| 19:06.45 | ubdead | get a car |
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| 19:06.55 | monoframe | Not on my budget I don't :P |
| 19:07.06 | Nesetalis | there, back to normal :D |
| 19:07.24 | Kakera | If an additional pylon is constructed in the forest but nobody is around to see it, is it still an additional pylon? |
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| 19:07.46 | ubdead | not if it not connected to the power network |
| 19:07.52 | depthsofchaos | Wtf only 8 TD on page one, i am disappoint |
| 19:07.54 | Nesetalis | im not going to resize the damn model viewer window again D: |
| 19:08.16 | Kakera | I'm also flabbergasted that it's "construct" and not "warp in" since protoss structures are warped in. |
| 19:08.29 | ubdead | i found the problem with the slow restore |
| 19:08.33 | ubdead | it's the resolution |
| 19:08.43 | ubdead | for some reason its realllly slow on 1920x1200 |
| 19:08.52 | Kakera | It's also slow on 1440x900 |
| 19:08.54 | ubdead | but its fast on all the other resolutions |
| 19:08.55 | ubdead | for me |
| 19:09.20 | Kakera | The game did a bad job at determining my resolution at first |
| 19:09.26 | monoframe | Hmm, what video card are you using? |
| 19:09.28 | Kakera | Some of the buttons in the top-left corner didn't exist |
| 19:09.40 | ubdead | so 1920x1080 is fast for me |
| 19:09.51 | ubdead | and 1920x1200 takes like 15 seconds |
| 19:10.07 | monoframe | WHAT VGA CARD ARE YOU USING ARGH- |
| 19:10.08 | monoframe | S: |
| 19:10.10 | Kakera | That x120 is the difference between HD and Super-HD |
| 19:10.26 | ubdead | yep |
| 19:10.34 | ubdead | my native is 1200 |
| 19:10.39 | ubdead | but 1080 is way faster |
| 19:10.42 | ubdead | so ill use it |
| 19:10.50 | ubdead | strechy units |
| 19:10.52 | ubdead | hehe |
| 19:13.45 | Vailreth | any one know how to set up the actors for morphing? or if there is a tutorial ? |
| 19:13.51 | Kakera | Work your resolution so everyone's fat. |
| 19:13.59 | Kakera | Fat marines, fat Thors, fat Jim. |
| 19:14.17 | Kakera | FatCraft. |
| 19:14.26 | slightlyrandom | Vailreth: You make an actor event on each actor |
| 19:14.57 | Vailreth | i know that each actor needs events i just am unsure of what these events should consist of |
| 19:15.05 | slightlyrandom | Abil.*.Morph, Term From X, Term To Y, destroy/create as appropriate |
| 19:15.19 | slightlyrandom | MorphFrom and MorphTo, that is |
| 19:15.30 | Vailreth | yeah i was just wanting something to look at ...while i work on it |
| 19:15.39 | slightlyrandom | That line right there is it :P |
| 19:17.26 | Ashamed | guys real quick.. Triggers that have ( Over certain amount of time ) How do you defualt it to forever? |
| 19:17.41 | Ashamed | I know adding a bunch of time.. but is there a way to just make it forever? |
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| 19:18.05 | RodOfNOD | does anyone use a mac and use mpq draft? when i double click on it it launches but nothing happens..... |
| 19:18.26 | monoframe | DORFODON, USE MPQ EXTRACTOR D: |
| 19:18.26 | ubdead | Kakera Fatcraft xD |
| 19:18.52 | RodOfNOD | i want to insert files |
| 19:18.53 | ubdead | Ashamed do you mean periodic? |
| 19:18.54 | RodOfNOD | not extract them |
| 19:18.58 | ubdead | like every 5 minutes? |
| 19:19.08 | monoframe | Oh |
| 19:19.09 | Kakera | You know you want FatCraft now. |
| 19:19.14 | RodOfNOD | dumbass :> |
| 19:19.20 | monoframe | :3 |
| 19:19.26 | ubdead | :3 |
| 19:19.32 | Kakera | Every unit moves 90% slower. |
| 19:19.51 | Kakera | Your command center is now a McDonald's. |
| 19:19.54 | monoframe | And listens to music produced with 40 BPM in mind |
| 19:19.57 | ubdead | xD |
| 19:20.01 | Kakera | Flying McDonald's when it lifts off. |
| 19:20.03 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/gates-darkness/. Gates of Darkness. TheAlmaity (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 19:20.08 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zown-control-ultra/. Zown Control Ultra. DarkFireDragoon (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 19:20.12 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/micro-hunters-elite/. [8] Micro Hunters Elite!. stevehammon (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 19:20.17 | ubdead | Jim Raynor -> that clown guy? |
| 19:20.17 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/science-and-industry/. Science and Industry. SCMapper (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 19:20.21 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/micro-hunters-elite-12-players/. [12] Micro Hunters Elite!. stevehammon (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 19:20.26 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/incomewars-pro/. IncomeWars Pro. BlacKcuD (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 19:20.26 | ubdead | repo spam |
| 19:20.30 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/starcommando/. StarCommando. Decay (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 19:20.34 | ubdead | vjeux is such a spammer |
| 19:20.35 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/micro-hunters-elite-sml-12/. [12] Micro Hunters Elite Sml!. stevehammon (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 19:20.41 | Kakera | Naw, Jim is still Jim, but fat. |
| 19:20.45 | ubdead | right |
| 19:20.49 | Kakera | Kerrigan is Ronald |
| 19:21.18 | Kakera | It makes no sense but it's funny. |
| 19:21.58 | RodOfNOD | now kerrigan would be a NASTY clown |
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| 19:24.33 | monoframe | "Come here kids! I have plenty enough of creep to make ourselves bubbles!" |
| 19:24.33 | Kakera | My movement speed enhancer item is going to be named "Mecha Leg Enhancer" |
| 19:25.12 | Penguinator36 | Ok so how do I make kerrigan killable? "Invulnerable" is unchecked but she still won't die |
| 19:25.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster vjeux (52e9ed5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.233.237.91) |
| 19:25.40 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o vjeux] by ChanServ |
| 19:26.04 | ubdead | ohhh |
| 19:26.17 | ubdead | i think i see the flex thingy kicking in monoframe |
| 19:26.31 | ubdead | it's subtle |
| 19:26.32 | TheLaughingMan | vjeux, you spammer |
| 19:26.41 | vjeux | hey |
| 19:26.43 | vjeux | :p |
| 19:26.51 | monoframe | Over one hour time it should be fully active |
| 19:26.51 | ubdead | also vjeux |
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| 19:26.57 | monoframe | depending on your settings |
| 19:26.58 | ubdead | that tutorial |
| 19:26.59 | monoframe | S: |
| 19:27.01 | ubdead | is nearly done |
| 19:27.04 | vjeux | woot nice :) |
| 19:27.09 | ubdead | if you are still interested that is |
| 19:27.13 | vjeux | yeah |
| 19:27.16 | RodOfNOD | grrr |
| 19:27.23 | vjeux | done within the next 30min ? |
| 19:27.32 | vjeux | or i should wait tomorrow to news it |
| 19:27.36 | RodOfNOD | has anyone gotten mpq draft to work for the mac? |
| 19:27.38 | ubdead | oh no please wait |
| 19:27.48 | ubdead | it still needs multiple modes |
| 19:27.48 | vjeux | ok |
| 19:27.51 | monoframe | uhm and vjuex, what about the Chinese mod community, was there any interaction with them after beta GE was released? |
| 19:28.03 | ubdead | but im kind of tired |
| 19:28.06 | ubdead | so ill do it tomorrow |
| 19:28.30 | ubdead | fuck the chinese bring in the koreans |
| 19:28.56 | monoframe | koreans are to no use, expect fancy technologies and filling up blizzard's pockets with subscription based SC2 |
| 19:29.01 | monoframe | except* |
| 19:29.02 | monoframe | S: |
| 19:29.40 | vjeux | ok |
| 19:30.22 | ubdead | my computer is turning orangeeeee ahhhh |
| 19:30.34 | ubdead | still it's nice and easy on the eyes |
| 19:30.35 | Penguinator36 | ok seriously can someone tell me how to make kerrigan die... invulnerable isn't checked and i can't find anything else that prevents her from dying |
| 19:30.36 | ubdead | i do like it |
| 19:30.50 | ubdead | Penguinator36 did you try trowing nukes at it? |
| 19:30.59 | Penguinator36 | ... |
| 19:31.06 | ubdead | ok on a serious note |
| 19:31.18 | ubdead | are you sure that the unit you placed, is the same unit your editing |
| 19:31.22 | Penguinator36 | yes |
| 19:31.26 | ubdead | check again |
| 19:31.31 | ubdead | it's the only reason |
| 19:31.34 | monoframe | you sure she has "death" animation? |
| 19:31.47 | Penguinator36 | yes I am 100% sure, I've been editing multiple things for her |
| 19:31.54 | Penguinator36 | it's Kerrigan (Char) |
| 19:32.00 | ubdead | mn right |
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| 19:32.00 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 19:32.00 | monoframe | DON'T SPOIL FFS S: |
| 19:32.01 | monoframe | D: |
| 19:32.06 | ubdead | indeed |
| 19:32.08 | ubdead | not cool |
| 19:33.16 | Kakera | Are there any icons of 'healing' beside the standar white plus sign Heal and AdvancedHealing sign? |
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| 19:33.25 | Kakera | standard* |
| 19:37.27 | tehwalrus | so I have a map where 8 teams of zerg are fighting to be the first to amass 1000 minerals: anyone have ideas for a map name? I would call it Brood Wars, but then it sounds like some sort of remake of the expansion... |
| 19:38.13 | ubdead | i'd call Zerg Inc. |
| 19:38.26 | ubdead | Zerg Mining Inc. |
| 19:38.36 | Kakera | I'd call it Texas. |
| 19:38.45 | ubdead | xD ugly creatures mining? |
| 19:38.49 | ubdead | texas right :D |
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| 19:39.24 | tehwalrus | I was thinking Zerg Crystal Wars... but that sounds dumb |
| 19:39.42 | Kakera | Call it "We require more minerals" |
| 19:39.51 | ubdead | ok how about Queen of Minerals |
| 19:40.34 | ubdead | or |
| 19:40.38 | ubdead | if you want some glory |
| 19:40.51 | ubdead | wait |
| 19:40.59 | ubdead | how about Zergarals |
| 19:41.13 | tehwalrus | lol |
| 19:41.19 | monoframe | So why are they fighting to amass that amount of minerals? |
| 19:41.27 | ubdead | or or 1001 Minerals |
| 19:41.33 | tehwalrus | kakera's idea might be good |
| 19:41.42 | ubdead | xD |
| 19:41.47 | ubdead | Q_Q |
| 19:42.18 | monoframe | WEREMOMAL |
| 19:42.20 | monoframe | :| |
| 19:42.37 | ubdead | or you could call it: Zzmgmmgmggg (the sound the drones make when you tell them to mine) |
| 19:43.39 | tehwalrus | It's a new type of super mineral that lets them produce zerglings for just 1, hydras for 2, etc - each player is a fledgling cerebrate fighting to be in charge of mining it out |
| 19:44.00 | ubdead | wow it actually has a (pretty good) story |
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| 19:44.21 | ubdead | ok im going to see a movie now |
| 19:44.26 | ubdead | cya all have fun mapping |
| 19:47.43 | Tolkfan | why does blizz keep placing hidden starting location points for every player on the map? Aren't those needed only for melee maps? they did the same thing in SC1... |
| 19:47.55 | Kakera | Instant healing items 50, 100, 150 and 250 along with heals over 10 seconds for 500 and 1000 is good for healing items? |
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| 19:49.45 | vjeux | i'm pretty sure you will like the next contest |
| 19:50.10 | monoframe | uhm, vjeux, you didn't answer me last question directed to you S: |
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| 19:50.18 | vjeux | what was it? |
| 19:50.30 | monoframe | wait a sec |
| 19:50.53 | monoframe | uhm and vjuex, what about the Chinese mod community, was there any interaction with them after beta GE was released? |
| 19:51.09 | vjeux | not really |
| 19:51.22 | monoframe | :G |
| 19:51.26 | vjeux | they had someone copy & pasting all our news |
| 19:51.39 | monoframe | oh |
| 19:51.41 | vjeux | (and translating) |
| 19:51.49 | monoframe | sure you got me on that one |
| 19:52.02 | vjeux | i've been checking on them but there wasn't anything really cool done there |
| 19:52.06 | vjeux | i should recheck :p |
| 19:52.14 | r9k | vjeux, would be nice to have Map Nights |
| 19:52.45 | monoframe | That is whole community spam-playing only one map during evening? |
| 19:52.54 | r9k | nah |
| 19:53.00 | r9k | Just play interesting map |
| 19:53.00 | vjeux | r9k: if you want to organize some, go ahead :) |
| 19:53.03 | r9k | that are unpopular |
| 19:53.11 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/5610-contest-buzz-me/ |
| 19:53.42 | monoframe | ooh dirtyplay |
| 19:54.38 | m50 | to get a model for a missile effect, do i have to create an actor for it? |
| 19:55.25 | Vailreth | ok i need some help... |
| 19:56.10 | Vailreth | i almost have a Tiberium style conyard working but my unit i am using a an mcv is a flier and morphs to land... |
| 19:57.08 | Fisker | <This messages requires a 1v1 PLATINUM badge to view> |
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| 19:57.17 | vjeux | news |
| 19:57.28 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/buzz-me-roach-snake-anti-block-minigame-lego/ |
| 19:57.49 | Fisker | awful btw vjeux |
| 19:57.51 | P_R_Deltoid | newsss |
| 19:58.15 | P_R_Deltoid | aweful |
| 19:58.17 | P_R_Deltoid | "aweful" |
| 19:58.23 | P_R_Deltoid | fills you full of awe |
| 19:58.42 | Fisker | btw in b4 you get banned for abusing the publishing system etc. |
| 19:58.44 | P_R_Deltoid | how to get advantage of it? |
| 19:59.49 | monoframe | well, blizzard themselves made a system that is abusable |
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| 20:00.08 | monoframe | why should a player be punished for their thought of making it "better"? |
| 20:00.15 | monoframe | Oh wait |
| 20:00.20 | monoframe | he already was punished |
| 20:00.23 | monoframe | multiple times |
| 20:00.24 | monoframe | :| |
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| 20:02.18 | P_R_Deltoid | why did you just throw "leggo" in the title |
| 20:02.29 | P_R_Deltoid | aw nevermind |
| 20:02.29 | goomba_ | LOL that lego video is awesome |
| 20:02.30 | P_R_Deltoid | found it |
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| 20:04.39 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen Sixen |
| 20:04.40 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster #wowuidev. Has said a total of 96 messages. Is idling for 6h 55m 24s, last said: 'someone help deathnight'. |
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| 20:05.27 | Ousnius | hey |
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| 20:05.30 | vjeux | hey Ousnius |
| 20:05.47 | Ousnius | how to fire a missile via triggers? :P |
| 20:05.58 | vjeux | r9k: i'm going to news your map night thread tomorrow :) |
| 20:06.01 | Ousnius | Environment - Create Effect at Point from Unti doesnt work with missiles |
| 20:06.58 | Vailreth | hmm dont know BUT i have a working space conyard! |
| 20:07.57 | RedWraith | ~seen motive |
| 20:07.58 | purl | motive is currently on #sc2mapster (14h 27m 56s). Has said a total of 47 messages. Is idling for 9h 49m 6s, last said: 'or something'. |
| 20:08.06 | goomba_ | anyone watch weeds? |
| 20:08.34 | *** topic/#sc2mapster by vjeux -> #sc2mapster http://sc2mapster.com/ | Play Custom Games at #SC2MapsterMapNight | Minigame Contest: http://bit.ly/cuuQSi | Patch 0-1.01 Undocumented Editor Notes: http://bit.ly/bPX11b | Idle in #MWE for MilkyWayEditor! |
| 20:09.07 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah, goomba_, why? |
| 20:09.10 | goomba_ | season 6 episode 1 is out |
| 20:09.15 | goomba_ | but doesnt air for like 2 weeks |
| 20:09.26 | P_R_Deltoid | aw |
| 20:09.27 | P_R_Deltoid | okay |
| 20:09.31 | goomba_ | you can dl it though |
| 20:09.33 | P_R_Deltoid | last season, the little kid killed the lady, right |
| 20:09.39 | goomba_ | yeah |
| 20:09.39 | goomba_ | xD |
| 20:09.41 | P_R_Deltoid | okay |
| 20:09.45 | P_R_Deltoid | just making sure I didn't miss one |
| 20:09.51 | goomba_ | thats the last one before this |
| 20:09.53 | P_R_Deltoid | gonna have to DL em all, we don't have Showtime anymore |
| 20:10.00 | P_R_Deltoid | :< |
| 20:10.01 | goomba_ | i never did |
| 20:10.02 | goomba_ | :P |
| 20:10.05 | P_R_Deltoid | oooo |
| 20:10.08 | P_R_Deltoid | I'm telllling |
| 20:10.10 | P_R_Deltoid | you watch Dexter? |
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| 20:10.13 | goomba_ | nah |
| 20:10.15 | P_R_Deltoid | aww |
| 20:10.17 | P_R_Deltoid | :< |
| 20:10.20 | P_R_Deltoid | poor dexter |
| 20:11.28 | Vailreth | any one know how to make it so that a unit can not be placed near resources like a command center cant? |
| 20:11.30 | goomba_ | only shows i really watch are weeds, community, the office, and scrubs |
| 20:11.42 | goomba_ | and scrubs is over xD |
| 20:12.30 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah |
| 20:12.31 | P_R_Deltoid | poor scrubs |
| 20:12.45 | P_R_Deltoid | anyone knpow wtf Green Tea AI system is? |
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| 20:12.51 | goomba_ | season 9 sucked ass |
| 20:13.06 | goomba_ | its just an ai that ppl would use to play bots when beta was down |
| 20:14.12 | P_R_Deltoid | okay |
| 20:14.18 | P_R_Deltoid | this custom map system sucks ass |
| 20:14.51 | goomba_ | indeed |
| 20:14.56 | Fromethius | does anyone know how to give a hero burrow that doesn't get his health and energy reset when he burrows? when you introduce attributes to a unit and make them burrow/unburrow, their life/energy gets reset each burrow to its default becasue of the attributes (like intelligence and life) |
| 20:15.55 | Fromethius | so if i have an infestor with 800 energy and he burrows, he has 800 energy still. however, once i give him leveling and attributes that increase his life, energy, armor per level, once he burrows his energy gets set back to 0 |
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| 20:16.25 | goomba_ | you could just use local variables |
| 20:16.29 | goomba_ | and do it with a short trigger |
| 20:16.31 | Fromethius | like, triggers? |
| 20:16.38 | Fromethius | yeah, i did that, and it is terrible. |
| 20:16.46 | goomba_ | why? |
| 20:17.15 | Fromethius | there is a 2 second delay where it goes 800 -> 0 -> 800 and there will be more than one burrowing hero in the game at once |
| 20:17.34 | Fromethius | so if there are 3 infestors and one burrows and then another burrows, the first one's variable gets fucked up |
| 20:17.36 | goomba_ | it shouldnt be noticable |
| 20:17.38 | Fromethius | it's just a terible, terrible way of doing it |
| 20:17.41 | goomba_ | the time it takes to run |
| 20:17.58 | Fromethius | (wants to do this without triggers) |
| 20:17.58 | RodOfNOD | i think i see why blizzard seems to fuck peoples files when they do upgrades |
| 20:18.27 | RodOfNOD | i THINK that wont happen IF you make a brand new unit instead of just modifying an existing one |
| 20:18.36 | Fromethius | it will, and does |
| 20:18.44 | RodOfNOD | i dont see how |
| 20:18.46 | Fromethius | it's the behaviors.. |
| 20:19.02 | RodOfNOD | explain wht u mean |
| 20:19.05 | RodOfNOD | what would fail |
| 20:19.08 | Fromethius | if you give it attributes and leveling that modify their energy, etc. on leveling, then the energy gets reset when you burrow |
| 20:19.17 | Fromethius | if you remove all the behaviors the energy does not get reset |
| 20:19.28 | RodOfNOD | iu talking to me Fromethius ? |
| 20:19.36 | Fromethius | yes |
| 20:19.47 | goomba_ | only way i can think of is triggers |
| 20:19.49 | Ousnius | how to make a flying missile via triggers? anyone? |
| 20:19.49 | goomba_ | i suck in de |
| 20:19.57 | Fromethius | well triggers are the wrong way of doing it |
| 20:19.59 | Fromethius | think about it |
| 20:20.01 | RodOfNOD | i thought that peoples units had gotten screwed up? |
| 20:20.12 | goomba_ | that may be but sitll :P |
| 20:20.13 | Fromethius | if one infestor burrows the variable is set to what energy the infestor has |
| 20:20.18 | Fromethius | meanwhile another infestor burrows |
| 20:20.22 | Fromethius | now that variable is overriden |
| 20:20.35 | RodOfNOD | i dont think we are talking about same thing Fromethius |
| 20:21.00 | Fromethius | meanwhile there is a second delay where the energy flashes because you can only set the energy of the infestor once he is done with his burrowing/unburrowing animation |
| 20:21.16 | Kakera | Dammit, I fixed my C-141 AC inventory icon the other day and since I abandoned the project I erased how to do it from my mind. Now I can't remember and I'm pissed since I can't fix the icon for the Mecha Leg Enhancer. |
| 20:21.18 | Fromethius | need to figure out a way to do it with the data editor |
| 20:21.24 | goomba_ | event unit casts burrow |
| 20:21.36 | Vailreth | woowhoo |
| 20:21.38 | goomba_ | idk |
| 20:21.39 | goomba_ | w/e |
| 20:21.49 | Fromethius | store it in a variable... |
| 20:21.54 | Fromethius | meanwhile another infestor uses burrow |
| 20:21.59 | Fromethius | whole thing goes to shit |
| 20:22.20 | Fromethius | triggers are not the right way of doing it and to get it working with them would be overly complicated, buggy, and unaesthetically pleasing |
| 20:22.39 | goomba_ | lol |
| 20:22.46 | goomba_ | i think youre a bit defensive for looking for help there |
| 20:22.57 | Fromethius | i agree |
| 20:23.03 | Fromethius | this thing has me quite frustrated |
| 20:25.45 | Vailreth | whats going on maybe i can lend a hand |
| 20:26.59 | Fromethius | if you add behaviors such as leveling and attributes to a unit (infestor) when they burrow their affected attributes (life, energy) get reset to their default value |
| 20:27.22 | Fromethius | so if the infestor starts with 200 energy and has 800, and then burrows, his energy will be reset to 200 |
| 20:27.33 | Fromethius | once you remove the behaviors this no longer happens |
| 20:28.27 | Vailreth | you are giving the behaviors to both of the infestor units? |
| 20:28.37 | Fromethius | yes |
| 20:29.05 | goomba_ | seems like a bug if you are |
| 20:29.07 | Vailreth | did you try editing the info sections effects |
| 20:29.18 | Fromethius | elaborate? |
| 20:30.09 | Vailreth | sorry in the borrow and unburrow abiliy there are fields named info Sections effects which i THINK may link the stats of the two units .. |
| 20:32.02 | Vailreth | saddly it doesnt have a section in it for behaviors |
| 20:33.16 | vjeux | http://www.z33k.com/ |
| 20:33.19 | vjeux | do you know this website |
| 20:33.19 | vjeux | ? |
| 20:34.45 | goomba_ | never heard of it |
| 20:35.24 | Maul | anyone else having trouble duplicating units? |
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| 20:35.40 | Maul | ie you can't find them in unit view |
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| 20:36.00 | Fromethius | restart editor |
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| 20:38.10 | Jcup | Hey guys |
| 20:38.12 | Jcup | :D |
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| 20:38.18 | Jcup | Its been forever :o |
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| 20:38.47 | overload119 | Anyone have a 7 hour guest pass I can burrow? |
| 20:38.55 | overload119 | Well, not burrow. |
| 20:38.59 | overload119 | Use. |
| 20:40.28 | vjeux | slightlyrandom: here? |
| 20:40.28 | slightlyrandom | Sort of |
| 20:40.28 | slightlyrandom | Whats up ? |
| 20:40.28 | Lisk | is it possible to pass an array to a function |
| 20:40.28 | vjeux | pm |
| 20:40.47 | Fatal5101 | terran = best race |
| 20:40.50 | Fatal5101 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.53 | Fatal5101 | discuss |
| 20:41.14 | Jum-Jum | yes |
| 20:41.25 | Jum-Jum | no need to discuss |
| 20:41.25 | RodOfNOD | kind of lisk |
| 20:41.37 | RodOfNOD | u cant have local arrays but u can treat it as local |
| 20:41.39 | Jum-Jum | its just a matter of time before the koreans pick it up and dominate the scene with terran |
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| 20:41.39 | slightlyrandom | That's not a discussion, that's a joke |
| 20:42.05 | Lisk | basically, i am unsatisfied with the Combine Text function provided (it is funky to use, and it is hard to follow) and i want to write my own |
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| 20:42.16 | Lisk | that will merge a string array to one string |
| 20:42.47 | RodOfNOD | well what kinda of data is in the array? where did u get the strings from? |
| 20:43.41 | Lisk | things like the name of a Unit, or the Level Number |
| 20:43.50 | Lisk | just temporary strings |
| 20:44.03 | RodOfNOD | we;; |
| 20:44.05 | RodOfNOD | well |
| 20:44.19 | RodOfNOD | just make ur own set of functions for the amount of strings u have |
| 20:44.22 | Lisk | it's easier for me to visualize something like, set t1 = something, set t2 = something else, etc. then "merge" them at the end, than have some huge nested thing with conversions |
| 20:44.32 | Lisk | hmmm |
| 20:44.41 | RodOfNOD | so if u want to pass 3 then call it using MERGE3( s1, s2,s3) |
| 20:44.46 | RodOfNOD | then u dont have to cast them |
| 20:44.49 | RodOfNOD | cuz the MERGE will do that |
| 20:44.55 | NakDotNak | Anyone around to answer a question for me on the new contest? |
| 20:45.09 | Lisk | i suppose i could do that, but i'd really prefer to generalize it for any case |
| 20:45.16 | RodOfNOD | ur out of luck |
| 20:45.21 | RodOfNOD | u cant pass arrays |
| 20:45.29 | RodOfNOD | best u could do is pass the beginning and end index |
| 20:45.36 | RodOfNOD | so MERGE( 3, 7) |
| 20:45.47 | RodOfNOD | and it would take ur global and merge strings from 3 to 7 |
| 20:46.01 | RodOfNOD | but i find doing this |
| 20:46.06 | RodOfNOD | set x[1] = "ouch" |
| 20:46.07 | m50 | how do i get an effect to spawn a projectile, that when it hits, does a damage effect? I thought I figured it out, but i didn't.... |
| 20:46.07 | m50 | What I have done so far is create a unit, that is the "Ammo" of the effect, and it creates that on the ground, but doesn't fly towards the enemy nor does it collide. The collision might have to do with the radius, but why can't I get it to fly? |
| 20:46.27 | RodOfNOD | vs MERGE( "Ouch", "this", "hurts") to be way better |
| 20:46.39 | RodOfNOD | MERGE3 |
| 20:48.42 | Vailreth | Fromethius: you still here? did you create diffrent veterancies for each form of the infestor or just one for both forms? |
| 20:48.58 | Fromethius | latter |
| 20:49.15 | Lisk | i'll try that. Thanks for the help, RodOfNod! |
| 20:49.37 | Vailreth | so just one for both forms? and it resest the engery for the infestor? |
| 20:49.45 | Fromethius | yeah |
| 20:49.55 | Vailreth | weird it doesnt do that when i test |
| 20:50.12 | Vailreth | is it a custom infestor unit? |
| 20:50.30 | Fromethius | nope |
| 20:50.33 | Fromethius | modified the original |
| 20:50.38 | RodOfNOD | u could of course just do this lisk: Debug - Display (Text((Combine ("", "", "")))) as debug output using Type 1, and Do display it in the game window |
| 20:50.38 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.49 | RodOfNOD | then all u have to do is plug in the strings u want |
| 20:50.59 | Fromethius | can you send me your test map? |
| 20:51.03 | Vailreth | weird |
| 20:51.08 | Vailreth | sure |
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| 20:51.49 | Unrea1|NA | Yo |
| 20:52.09 | Lisk | yeah, i thought about doing that |
| 20:52.14 | Lisk | it just seemed inelegant, haha |
| 20:53.38 | RodOfNOD | it is but its whate we have |
| 20:53.42 | RodOfNOD | GUI sometimes blows |
| 20:54.16 | Ousnius | does someone know how to create a missile effect from an unit to a point? with dmg? anybody? |
| 20:54.40 | Ousnius | with triggers |
| 20:54.50 | Lisk | indeed. string concatenation is always easier in text |
| 20:54.56 | Jum-Jum | been playing svencoop and it made me thinking if you could make a map in sc2 |
| 20:55.10 | Jum-Jum | that was like that, like 3 players thats suppose to help eachother and solve those funky puzzles lol |
| 20:55.25 | Lisk | you made wartego didn't you? |
| 20:55.34 | Jum-Jum | there arent any doors in sc2 is there? |
| 20:55.47 | Jum-Jum | talking to me Lisk? |
| 20:56.04 | Lisk | RodOfNOD |
| 20:56.24 | RodOfNOD | yes i did lisk |
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| 20:56.29 | RodOfNOD | and risk devolution |
| 20:56.34 | Lisk | right, right |
| 20:57.16 | Lisk | i played a bunch of risk revo, but never got around to playing devo |
| 20:57.29 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 20:57.44 | RodOfNOD | devo took the best of revo and made it better :> |
| 20:57.56 | Lisk | that's what i hear |
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| 21:02.36 | lotharscm | so I am setting up a spell immunity validator.. and it works fine for targeted spells.. but if I put it on an a search spell that doesnt require it to target a unit it can no longer cast if there is no unit in the search area.. i think it is the failure result "musttargetunit".. does anyone know what i need to tweak |
| 21:03.23 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5574-video-tutorial-cinematics-and-campaign/ |
| 21:03.36 | vjeux | open the campaign missions, they are really instructive :) |
| 21:05.20 | lotharscm | cool i was wondeering about the campaign missions |
| 21:05.48 | goomba_ | whole campaign done in editor -_- |
| 21:05.53 | Lisk | Actually, RodOfNod, i found a nice way of doing it. just use custom script, and use something like: lv_mergedTxt = lv_t1 + lv_t2 + lv_t3 ..... ; |
| 21:06.03 | Lisk | not sure why i didn't think of it earlier |
| 21:06.43 | RodOfNOD | of course u can always do that |
| 21:08.05 | vjeux | http://sclegacy.com/features/sc2beta/b.netconcerns/Join-Custom-Game.jpg |
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| 21:09.40 | sugoi | hello all - i'm exited about all the content sc2mapster.com has, i had no idea :D |
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| 21:10.20 | pluto | hello |
| 21:10.45 | sugoi | i debating using wasd movement in my game, a tutorial i was learning from (not on sc2mapster) was using short-interval timers to continually move the char .5 spaces forward if keys were down |
| 21:10.58 | Dinoo | vjeux what's this ? A suggestion to change the custom games interface ? |
| 21:11.04 | sugoi | i really didn't like the method - i would look for a event based movement, not timer based |
| 21:11.18 | Dinoo | Would be way betta than the current one ^^ |
| 21:11.26 | Dinoo | better* |
| 21:11.26 | sugoi | feedback? |
| 21:11.33 | pluto | hey does anyone here know anything about 3d modeling |
| 21:11.47 | pluto | even just a little bit |
| 21:11.55 | vjeux | it's a beta version of the map listing |
| 21:12.51 | vjeux | sugoi: there's no real possibility without timer |
| 21:12.56 | Dinoo | So they're changing to this, great :) |
| 21:13.01 | vjeux | you have to refresh the unit position everytime |
| 21:13.16 | r9k | Dinoo, no, this is how it was before. |
| 21:14.40 | vjeux | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?sid=5010&topicId=25170778573&pageNo=6#101 |
| 21:14.42 | sugoi | vjeux: wow...i was hoping you'd have a different opinion: what about something like this: 'w' is pressed, loop is started while (w_is_down) { move forward; sleep; }; another trigger 'w' is released, w_is_down := false |
| 21:14.46 | vjeux | cool, blizz poster tell us |
| 21:15.05 | vjeux | you can do that, but the "move forward" has to be refreshed |
| 21:15.13 | sugoi | i was hoping such a loop could exist, of course that would be threaded |
| 21:15.27 | vjeux | oh |
| 21:15.40 | vjeux | well, timer or sleep is the same |
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| 21:15.55 | vjeux | it will be run every once in a while |
| 21:16.04 | pluto | hey i got a problem on the map editor |
| 21:16.05 | vjeux | and have the same lag ingame |
| 21:16.12 | pluto | some model's textures wont show up |
| 21:16.15 | pluto | will reinstalling fix this |
| 21:16.23 | Dinoo | oh :( |
| 21:16.30 | pluto | the model isn't a custom model btw its one of those SM models |
| 21:16.37 | NakDotNak | That's a dependency issue I think |
| 21:16.43 | NakDotNak | I was having the same problem |
| 21:16.45 | sugoi | well...perhaps the effect is the same - but based on the runtime framework, using sleeps in threads vs timers are much less expensive |
| 21:16.52 | pluto | well i loaded the storymode dependency but it still wont show |
| 21:17.05 | NakDotNak | Put the storymode dependency at the top of the list and hit ok |
| 21:17.07 | sugoi | vjeux: pardon my naivity in context of galaxy, i'm an experienced programmer, but i have about 30 minutes experience with galaxy |
| 21:17.11 | pluto | alright lemme try that then |
| 21:18.06 | pluto | loading the map editor takes a while for me :/ |
| 21:18.30 | vjeux | the game synchronizes with all the players 16 times a second (don't remember the exact number) |
| 21:18.39 | pluto | i think it worked |
| 21:18.40 | pluto | sort of |
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| 21:18.59 | pluto | i cant really tell because it kinda fixed itself on its own |
| 21:19.06 | sugoi | vjeux: ah, so the timer is not really a timer...but a timeout+sleep |
| 21:19.30 | sugoi | vjeux: then perhaps a < 1/16s sleep is useless (or whatever the '16' is) |
| 21:19.37 | vjeux | well, it's a time but that cannot have a tick lesser than 1/16s :p |
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| 21:19.41 | vjeux | timer |
| 21:19.43 | Lazbro | ekcol isn't here? :( |
| 21:19.47 | pluto | alright now its all good and dandy |
| 21:19.49 | pluto | thx for the help |
| 21:19.58 | Lazbro | vjeux: may I ask what the problem was? :) |
| 21:20.13 | vjeux | now, it's up to you to use timers or sleep |
| 21:20.31 | vjeux | it depends on your coding preferences |
| 21:20.46 | vjeux | but will not have any impact on the performances |
| 21:20.56 | sugoi | makes sense |
| 21:21.06 | vjeux | Lazbro: using timers vs sleeps in a wasd movment |
| 21:21.18 | Lazbro | and which is best? :) |
| 21:21.23 | NakDotNak | np |
| 21:21.26 | vjeux | none :p |
| 21:21.28 | Lazbro | I tried sleep and it was terrible :p |
| 21:22.04 | Lazbro | so who were the other SotIs people besides ekcol? |
| 21:22.55 | vjeux | he is alone i guess |
| 21:23.17 | Lazbro | :( |
| 21:23.20 | Lazbro | poor guy |
| 21:24.36 | Ousnius | hey I looked at the Lost Viking Arcade map in the editor |
| 21:24.43 | Ousnius | blizz used an interesting movement system |
| 21:25.15 | Ousnius | the only action in the key press triggers were setting the keydown variable to true or not |
| 21:25.45 | Ousnius | and then a every 0.375 sec trigger which moves the unit instantly to the wanted position |
| 21:25.57 | Ousnius | that shoudlnt cause lag |
| 21:26.03 | Lazbro | ........................ |
| 21:26.07 | Lazbro | that's how everyone did it |
| 21:26.08 | Lazbro | noob |
| 21:26.10 | Lazbro | :p |
| 21:26.13 | Ousnius | erm |
| 21:26.14 | Ousnius | no |
| 21:26.29 | vjeux | it works fine in solo |
| 21:26.42 | vjeux | but the same thing on battle.net makes it unplayable |
| 21:26.52 | vjeux | the sync seems to cause too much lag |
| 21:26.54 | A1win | why doesn't my leaderboard show up o: do I need something else than the "create leaderbaord" action and then setting text to the items, and adding player 1 to it |
| 21:27.21 | Ousnius | show/hide lederboard |
| 21:27.22 | Ousnius | xD |
| 21:27.24 | vjeux | A1win: put "Last created leaderboard" inside a variable |
| 21:27.25 | Ousnius | leader* |
| 21:27.28 | vjeux | and then use that variable |
| 21:27.39 | vjeux | if you are working in two different triggers |
| 21:28.01 | A1win | they're all in the same, but is it really hidden at first? |
| 21:28.54 | Ousnius | did u even udnerstand what I said? |
| 21:29.07 | Ousnius | the unit shouldn't get an order for moving there |
| 21:29.16 | Ousnius | it should move INSTANTLY per triggers |
| 21:29.40 | Ousnius | via triggers* :p |
| 21:29.44 | A1win | added the action to show the leaderboard but it's still not showing :x |
| 21:29.51 | Ousnius | mhm |
| 21:31.35 | A1win | http://pastebin.com/APxcP0xc |
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| 21:32.02 | A1win | what's missing? :p |
| 21:32.17 | A1win | it's not showing up at all |
| 21:32.41 | Ousnius | mhm I didn't use the leaderboard actions before |
| 21:32.42 | A1win | bah |
| 21:32.42 | FrozenFirebat | I like the new contest... very Anon of us XD |
| 21:32.43 | A1win | nevermind |
| 21:32.44 | Ousnius | I used custom UI |
| 21:32.53 | A1win | it was because my screen was in fullscreen mode :< |
| 21:33.01 | Ousnius | huh? |
| 21:33.02 | A1win | so how do I create a leaderboard to fullscreen mode :P |
| 21:33.04 | A1win | I mean |
| 21:33.09 | A1win | not the game screen |
| 21:33.13 | A1win | the UI thingy |
| 21:33.17 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 21:33.19 | A1win | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.39 | Ousnius | I dont get what this should ahve to do with a leaderbaord... |
| 21:33.45 | RodOfNOD | i agree |
| 21:33.51 | A1win | well, it doesn't show if I have that |
| 21:33.52 | RodOfNOD | are u saying u made a leaderboard and it wont show? |
| 21:33.53 | A1win | and shows if I don't |
| 21:33.57 | RodOfNOD | u have to show it |
| 21:33.59 | Nesetalis | o.o damn its a chore to create just a single ability.. let alone a single unit with multiple abilities X.x |
| 21:34.15 | A1win | the leaderboard does show if I don't set the Fullscreen mode, and it doesn't show if I set the Fullscreen mode |
| 21:34.35 | A1win | so.. how do I disable the bottom of the UI while still being able to use a leaderboard :P |
| 21:34.47 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.47 | m50 | nesetalis, i can't even figure out how to make projectiles weapons... :/ let alone abilities |
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| 21:35.01 | A1win | RodOfNOD, yeah I have that |
| 21:35.01 | Nesetalis | im about to attempt to make the grenade i made.. a projectile (lobbed) |
| 21:35.08 | Ousnius | I cant even figure out how to fire a missile via triggers :D |
| 21:35.09 | Nesetalis | if i figure it out, i'll share with you m50 |
| 21:35.09 | A1win | actually hmm |
| 21:35.16 | A1win | maybe I have to set the fullscreen first |
| 21:35.20 | A1win | :P |
| 21:35.24 | A1win | they were in different triggers... |
| 21:35.35 | m50 | i got the projectile spawning on the ground under the unit, but then it just sits there |
| 21:35.37 | tehwalrus | abilities aren't so bad once you get used to making them |
| 21:35.39 | m50 | can't figure it out past that |
| 21:35.41 | A1win | nope still not working >_> |
| 21:35.49 | RodOfNOD | if not just make ur own leaderboard using dialogs :> |
| 21:35.53 | Nesetalis | how do we maked a lobbed projectile then tehwalrus? |
| 21:36.08 | Ousnius | use Dest1nyCP's |
| 21:36.13 | Ousnius | or look atit |
| 21:36.14 | Ousnius | at it |
| 21:36.18 | A1win | is there no way to disable the bottom of the UI without using the fullscreen mode? |
| 21:36.28 | sugoi | ? does anyone think bliz will release documentation on the editor? the guides on sc2mapster.com are fantastic [no doubt], but it'd be nice to get something official and complete |
| 21:36.31 | tehwalrus | i dunno, i've been mostly playing around with abilities |
| 21:36.47 | Nesetalis | doubtful sugoi |
| 21:36.49 | RodOfNOD | it will be under ONE of the ui settings if u can A1win |
| 21:36.49 | Ousnius | blizz doesnt officially supprot the editor :P |
| 21:36.57 | Nesetalis | blizzard loves to release tools, but tell you nothing about them |
| 21:37.04 | Nesetalis | Ousnius, was that to me? |
| 21:37.14 | sugoi | sad |
| 21:37.25 | Ousnius | what? the blizz support? |
| 21:37.29 | Nesetalis | i didnt even bother trying to figure out wc3's editor. |
| 21:37.46 | m50 | on the first time you open the editor, something pops up with a link to the official information on the editor, but that link is broken, and leads no where |
| 21:37.47 | Nesetalis | but i loves me some sc |
| 21:38.22 | A1win | meh I'll just leave the UI there :P |
| 21:38.31 | sugoi | Ousnius: sad i can't expect more support+docs from bliz on this stuff |
| 21:38.58 | Ousnius | supprot doesnt mean docs |
| 21:39.02 | Ousnius | damn support* |
| 21:39.12 | sugoi | it does to me |
| 21:39.15 | sugoi | i like to read :) |
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| 21:42.57 | Tivec | hiya! i've been looking for a way to make a dialog button based off of an image with a different hover and mouse down effect.. any suggestions for how I could go about doing this? |
| 21:44.08 | RodOfNOD | well the hover and mouse down is part of the button |
| 21:44.19 | RodOfNOD | by different what do u mean exactly |
| 21:44.26 | Tivec | well |
| 21:44.59 | Tivec | hover image is all fine, but the button won't have an image for its "normal" state that way.. |
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| 21:45.44 | RodOfNOD | well i think what i did was fake it |
| 21:45.46 | Tivec | hrm, can I overlay an image with a button and let that button have a hover image? |
| 21:45.48 | RodOfNOD | ie add an image |
| 21:45.52 | RodOfNOD | make the button have no image |
| 21:46.10 | RodOfNOD | all my routines are button first then image |
| 21:46.40 | Tivec | so you make the button without any text, then place the image within its "bounds"? |
| 21:46.43 | Kakera | How do item cooldown set up work? In the window of Object Values in Items, I see Time Start and Time Use; which one do I need to set up? |
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| 21:46.47 | NakDotNak | Is there a way whenever I would like to test my document, to make it run in a 800x600 window? It's running in a larger window and I do not need it that large. |
| 21:46.48 | WildFire_ | hiya everyone |
| 21:47.28 | NakDotNak | I see an "Addition Options" text box, maybe I can define window size there? But I'm not sure. |
| 21:47.31 | Kakera | I don't want the player to just buy 4 health packs and spam them when they need healing >.> |
| 21:47.46 | RodOfNOD | Tivec: http://pastebin.com/XPh6APEK |
| 21:48.22 | RodOfNOD | the hover is an old sc2 file that isnt there anymore at least it wasnt in beta |
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| 21:48.53 | RodOfNOD | nakdot run it in a window and then shrink the window by hand |
| 21:48.59 | Tivec | RodOfNOD: Alright, I'll give this a shot to see how it works! :) |
| 21:49.04 | RodOfNOD | although the smallest ive gotten so far is 1024x768 |
| 21:49.20 | RodOfNOD | however when i first ran it it was at 800x600 |
| 21:49.33 | RodOfNOD | but now i cant manually make it that size |
| 21:50.25 | RodOfNOD | btw Tivec i set the current value to 0 cuz i use that field to TAG my dialogs just like u would with a custom unit. The only dialog type that actually USES that field at least so far is the progress bar |
| 21:50.55 | NakDotNak | I can't shrink it like that, Rod |
| 21:51.40 | Tivec | RodOfNOD: "current value", you mean the x parameter? |
| 21:52.08 | Tivec | ohh wait, nevermind my bad |
| 21:52.18 | Tivec | alright, i see what you mean now |
| 21:54.05 | m50 | woot, got my projectile to work! but for some reason, it is shooting from the ground beneath my unit |
| 21:54.06 | m50 | :/ |
| 21:54.52 | m50 | Nesetalis: http://rileystarcraft.blogspot.com/2010/06/tutorial-create-missile-weapon.html |
| 21:56.23 | Lisk | it possible to save a record to the data table? |
| 21:59.51 | Nesetalis | thanks m50 |
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| 22:00.16 | m50 | np |
| 22:00.31 | m50 | you will have to figure out how to make parabolic movers for it though |
| 22:00.36 | m50 | everything else works though :) |
| 22:01.28 | Tivec | RodOfNOD: in the header button function you made, is there a reason why you do (10 + 7) in the y offset of the image? |
| 22:02.08 | Fromethius | i have a problem with my hero infestor. when it burrows, the energy is reset to 0 (the maximum energy). all of his energy is gained through attributes (intelligence) and the way blizzard has it set up is that if the current energy is greater than the maximum energy (also 0), then it resets the energy to the maximum energy when the unit burrows |
| 22:02.32 | Fromethius | for example, if an infestor has 150 energy and 200 max energy and it burrows, the energy is not reset |
| 22:02.57 | Fromethius | however, if the infestor has 250 energy (attributes increase max energy) and 200 max energy and it burrows, the energy is reset to the max (200) |
| 22:03.14 | Fromethius | any ideas for how to fix this? |
| 22:06.51 | m50 | have the max energy go up? |
| 22:07.01 | m50 | instead of just energy |
| 22:07.32 | Fromethius | that is what i'm doing |
| 22:07.43 | m50 | oh, then i misunderstood, sorry |
| 22:07.59 | Fromethius | the problem is that attributes don't change the maximum energy |
| 22:08.03 | Fromethius | they simply add to it |
| 22:08.10 | Fromethius | so the max energy is constant |
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| 22:09.10 | Fromethius | if attributes changed the maximum rather than adding to it, there would not be a problem |
| 22:09.18 | Fromethius | perhaps there is a way to simulate this? |
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| 22:10.58 | Kakera | What's the model for the in-game usable implemented item called "Medkit"? |
| 22:11.20 | Kakera | I see "Carry Harvestable Vespene Gas" or something like that and it's definitely not that, but it's in the Model field... |
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| 22:14.10 | Kakera | Ah, found it |
| 22:14.16 | Kakera | PickupMedicRecharge |
| 22:15.05 | SouLCarveR | can anybody tell me how to make a Difficutly Vote Screen |
| 22:15.21 | SouLCarveR | I cant get the click response from player clicking dialog button |
| 22:15.49 | Las|SCIIEU | o_O |
| 22:15.54 | Las|SCIIEU | that's the weirdest error i've had so far |
| 22:15.56 | SouLCarveR | any hint how to use dialog buttons would be great |
| 22:15.58 | Las|SCIIEU | "403 Forbidden: The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it." |
| 22:16.22 | Lasion | anyone know what I can do to fix that? |
| 22:16.32 | Lasion | (its in firefox) |
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| 22:19.51 | overload119 | Anyone got Sc2 guest passes key they can lend me |
| 22:20.06 | overload119 | ill trade it for a Brazzers account. |
| 22:20.09 | overload119 | =O |
| 22:23.45 | m50 | how do i get my custom projectile to shoot from the attack positions on my unit (in this case, the colossus) |
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| 22:25.19 | sugoi | m50: are there offsets you can use? |
| 22:25.44 | m50 | i dunno, where would i find them? |
| 22:25.57 | sugoi | perhaps in the actor properties |
| 22:25.59 | Lazbro | night |
| 22:26.07 | m50 | and that wouldn't help, because right now it is shooting from the bottom of my unit... i want it to shoot from its attack locations |
| 22:26.12 | m50 | where the lasers come out of |
| 22:26.33 | m50 | so offsets wouldn't help, because i want the weapon positions, right? |
| 22:27.55 | sugoi | "offset" just means differential from origin |
| 22:27.56 | Kakera | I've made the health packs for my hero, and I'm just enjoying blasting everything right now to properly continue to make my map. I should've started with the terrain. |
| 22:28.04 | m50 | ahh, mmk |
| 22:28.18 | sugoi | so, i was suggesting there might be an "offset" for the origin of the show |
| 22:28.32 | sugoi | shot* |
| 22:29.44 | m50 | looking atm sugoi |
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| 22:32.41 | s3rius | hmm overload119, still want one of these guest keys? |
| 22:33.19 | m50 | found where to find it :D |
| 22:33.26 | sugoi | what was it? |
| 22:35.41 | m50 | the Target - Launch Site |
| 22:35.42 | m50 | xD |
| 22:36.04 | m50 | or that is supposedly what it is |
| 22:36.08 | m50 | no luck for me though :( |
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| 22:39.05 | Fromethius | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/5627-energy-resets-when-infestor-burrows made a forum post.. hopefully someone can figure this out |
| 22:39.51 | Penguinator36 | overlord119 still want a guest pass? |
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| 22:44.20 | ekcolnvkol | hey vj |
| 22:44.21 | ekcolnvkol | guess wat |
| 22:44.32 | ekcolnvkol | vjeux HIGHLIGHTER GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 22:44.38 | ekcolnvkol | i removed the dependencies |
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| 22:48.59 | sugoi | speaking of dependencies, a bunch of the icons and such are missing in the editor, i heard that if you add some deps and reorder, it works better |
| 22:49.05 | sugoi | is there a 'best' solution for this? |
| 22:50.36 | Rodrigo | hi everyone |
| 22:50.47 | Rodrigo | I heard blizzard is now deleting maps |
| 22:50.58 | deathnight114 | whaaaA? |
| 22:51.04 | Rodrigo | thats sad. Its already a sacrifice to make the map popular |
| 22:51.05 | deathnight114 | l;khwdfljhartlkhalrghjalfkjgakrgBLIZZIMAKILLU... |
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| 22:51.45 | Rodrigo | and when u make the map popular, blizzard just delete it with a message "inappropriate content: no reasons. can't publish your map again. ban!" |
| 22:51.57 | ekcolnvkol | where are you reading this? |
| 22:52.05 | Rodrigo | first page of sc2mapster |
| 22:52.15 | Rodrigo | someone got the map banned |
| 22:52.20 | Rodrigo | and cant publish again |
| 22:52.36 | Lyrrad | I imagine they are not tell us the whole story |
| 22:52.36 | Rodrigo | after weeks struggling to make the map popular |
| 22:52.48 | Rodrigo | blizzard does not tell the reasons |
| 22:52.51 | Rodrigo | omg |
| 22:52.56 | Rodrigo | you spend months creating a map |
| 22:53.00 | Rodrigo | months making it popular |
| 22:53.12 | Rodrigo | and blizzard spend 1 day to delete it forever with no specific reasons |
| 22:53.31 | Rodrigo | that's just great |
| 22:53.32 | ekcolnvkol | yeah that seems pretty abrupt |
| 22:53.56 | ekcolnvkol | your map in particular is wading in some pretty dangerous waters |
| 22:54.06 | Rodrigo | yeah I know |
| 22:54.13 | Rodrigo | you can type whatever you want |
| 22:54.17 | Ousnius | lol my map concept is funny |
| 22:55.02 | Rodrigo | they should at MOST just lock the map |
| 22:55.09 | Rodrigo | and tell you the reasons |
| 22:55.13 | Rodrigo | so you can fix the problem |
| 22:55.18 | Rodrigo | and restore the map with the same popularity |
| 22:55.34 | Rodrigo | I will post this on blizzard forum |
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| 22:56.31 | Rodrigo | by the way |
| 22:56.35 | NakDotNak | Well, I don't think I'll be a part of the contest at SC2Mapster... I don't want to get banned for making inappropriate content :P |
| 22:56.38 | Rodrigo | I might play a match of "Debates" this night |
| 22:56.44 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 22:56.54 | Rodrigo | did u guyz watch the last video? |
| 22:56.59 | Rodrigo | from the matches yesterday? |
| 22:57.10 | Rodrigo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTU__w-Eyt4 |
| 22:58.58 | Kakera | Anyone knows how to modify the grenade from the campaign to use with a hero's inventory? |
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| 23:02.25 | madkipz | is there a way to get the old unally , ally screen that was in broodwar to appear? |
| 23:03.08 | madkipz | bgh just isnt bgh witout ally / vision ;P |
| 23:04.31 | m50 | awesome rodrigo, just... awesome |
| 23:04.32 | m50 | :D |
| 23:05.05 | Motive | Arr |
| 23:05.07 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 23:05.08 | Rodrigo | thanks |
| 23:05.17 | Rodrigo | if you want to play with us today |
| 23:05.19 | Rodrigo | add me |
| 23:05.21 | Rodrigo | RODRIGO 881 |
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| 23:07.40 | slightlyrandom | well, the bloke I am looking for isn't <Name>.100-400 |
| 23:07.50 | slightlyrandom | 600 possibilities to go :( |
| 23:08.10 | slightlyrandom | But! The odds are improving that the next one will be it, each time! |
| 23:08.28 | m50 | omfg... i still can't figure out how to get this projectile to shoot from the little laser spots on the colossus |
| 23:08.39 | m50 | anyone tried making a custom weapon for the colossus and got it shooting? |
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| 23:09.38 | m50 | mmk your added Rodrigo, what time y'all playing? |
| 23:09.45 | m50 | and what timezone? |
| 23:10.04 | Rodrigo | probably 10 pm (pacific time) |
| 23:10.06 | Rodrigo | or later |
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| 23:10.12 | Ashamed | ok noob question |
| 23:10.20 | m50 | oof.... that would be midnight my time :/ |
| 23:10.21 | Rodrigo | give me your name and characters code |
| 23:10.24 | m50 | oh well, i can stay up |
| 23:10.36 | Rodrigo | anyway, I call you another day maybe |
| 23:10.40 | Rodrigo | give me ur code |
| 23:10.47 | Ashamed | how would i make it so it always creates the same unit / out of the units that change slightly from each creation |
| 23:10.49 | m50 | gimme one sec while i log back in and figure out how to find it xD |
| 23:11.08 | slightlyrandom | it ? |
| 23:11.18 | Mittsies | When I move my Campaign Dependencies high enough to see the story units, all of my mod units break -- when the Campaign Dependencies aren't high enough I cannot see any of the story units. what do? |
| 23:11.22 | slightlyrandom | hover your portrait m50 |
| 23:11.30 | m50 | Ark 972 |
| 23:11.34 | m50 | and thank you very much |
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| 23:12.44 | slightlyrandom | Is there a clever way to find a person from their character name? Some online database of taken nick.code combinations, or something? |
| 23:12.44 | Rodrigo | ok |
| 23:12.47 | Rodrigo | I will add you |
| 23:13.54 | slightlyrandom | Or am I forced to check the rest of em as well? :P |
| 23:14.22 | Mittsies | anyone know how to fix this dependency issue? |
| 23:14.30 | slightlyrandom | redo your units? :) |
| 23:15.59 | Mittsies | uh, that's not an option |
| 23:16.02 | Mittsies | too much work :X |
| 23:16.15 | slightlyrandom | Of course it's an option :) |
| 23:16.38 | Mittsies | yeah but |
| 23:16.44 | Mittsies | isn't there a better way? |
| 23:17.02 | slightlyrandom | No idea |
| 23:17.08 | slightlyrandom | Searched the forum and google ? |
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| 23:19.34 | Mittsies | yeah. |
| 23:19.40 | Mittsies | all it does is tell me how to view campaign units |
| 23:19.49 | Mittsies | but not how to prevent my custom ones from breaking |
| 23:21.03 | ShadowTiger | whats the problem mittsies? |
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| 23:22.23 | Mittsies | when I put in the campaign dependencies my other units break |
| 23:23.52 | Mittsies | any idea? |
| 23:26.22 | Lasion | gnite folks \o |
| 23:27.38 | Lyrrad | Mittsies - I have just decided to not use the campaign dependancies atm and am waiting for them to fix it |
| 23:27.52 | Mittsies | seems like the way to go :( |
| 23:28.32 | Lyrrad | I will just use place holder models for anything from the campaign I want |
| 23:28.36 | Kakera | I managed to fix the grenade item so they can be used from a hero's inventory, but how do I make the white circle show up for range, and the area-of-effect red target zone appear while you choose where to launch it? |
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| 23:31.59 | sugoi | Kakera: when you find an answer to that, i'd love to know |
| 23:32.17 | Kakera | So far everything that is a target ability doesn't work fine with hero inventory |
| 23:32.22 | Kakera | It's a shame |
| 23:32.43 | Ousnius | OMG I've got the STRANGEST bug ever on my map |
| 23:32.49 | Ousnius | really NO possible reason |
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| 23:33.38 | Ousnius | can sb take a look at the triggers pls? the random spawn isn't working correctly |
| 23:33.42 | Ousnius | really strange |
| 23:34.22 | Ousnius | :( please? :P |
| 23:34.28 | GhosT-AFK | who's sb? |
| 23:34.39 | Ousnius | soembody |
| 23:34.40 | Ousnius | ... |
| 23:35.01 | SD|GhosT | just started playing with it today, i wont be any help yet, sorry |
| 23:35.15 | SD|GhosT | i was having trouble just not crashing out to place nova, and edit nova's stats in data |
| 23:36.57 | slightlyrandom | Kakera: For the search placement thing, take a look at Psi Storm |
| 23:37.20 | Ousnius | I need help plx |
| 23:37.36 | slightlyrandom | Whats up ? |
| 23:38.06 | Kakera | Do I need that many effects for grenade? I see Psi Storm has like 5... |
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| 23:38.15 | sugoi | anyone know hot to 'fix' the icons when you reload a map? (icons in the left hand view for units/doodads/etc) |
| 23:38.18 | slightlyrandom | Hehe |
| 23:38.36 | slightlyrandom | They take care of different parts of the ability |
| 23:38.43 | Kakera | What I don't understand is this |
| 23:38.56 | Kakera | I basically copied the grenade and kept every effect associated with the original |
| 23:39.17 | Ousnius | slightlyrandom that's up: random spawn doesn't work and units dont want to attack :O |
| 23:39.20 | Kakera | So it's essentially the same item, but able to be used by hero units |
| 23:39.34 | slightlyrandom | Fix your spawner and issue some attack move orders |
| 23:39.37 | Ousnius | but there is no possibl ereason why |
| 23:39.42 | slightlyrandom | Well, of course there is |
| 23:39.46 | Ousnius | I did issue attack order |
| 23:39.48 | slightlyrandom | You just haven't found the error |
| 23:39.55 | slightlyrandom | Does the units have the ability to attack ? |
| 23:39.56 | slightlyrandom | A weapon ? |
| 23:40.01 | Kakera | So all the effects needed for the search placement are there... so I don't understand why it doesn't work |
| 23:40.02 | Ousnius | it's a unmodified |
| 23:40.04 | Ousnius | zealot |
| 23:40.32 | slightlyrandom | Kakera: Have you checked that the links are the same ? |
| 23:40.57 | slightlyrandom | Ousnius: and the things you want them to attack aren't invulnerable or flying or something? |
| 23:40.58 | Kakera | Yes |
| 23:41.05 | Ousnius | nope |
| 23:41.12 | Kakera | I tried using the grenade from the game too |
| 23:41.15 | Ousnius | it worked when I placed the mdirectly beneath the unit |
| 23:41.22 | Kakera | Apparently it works, the Inventory one and not the Pickup one |
| 23:41.33 | Kakera | And there is no 'splash zone target' either |
| 23:41.38 | Kakera | But the splash damage works fine |
| 23:42.15 | slightlyrandom | Beneath the unit? So it does fly? |
| 23:42.25 | Ousnius | no |
| 23:42.29 | Ousnius | it's a siege tank |
| 23:42.31 | Ousnius | i nsieged mode |
| 23:42.34 | Ousnius | in* |
| 23:42.47 | slightlyrandom | Well, show me some code, then |
| 23:42.54 | Kakera | It's not such a big deal, I mean if the zone doesn't work it's not too bad, as long as the played knows there's a splash damage and it won't hurt friendly units. I just can't target ground; I must target a unit |
| 23:43.01 | Kakera | player* |
| 23:43.05 | Ousnius | lol i could jsut uplaod the map would be way easier |
| 23:43.12 | slightlyrandom | I dont have access to the editor |
| 23:43.20 | Ousnius | cause the reason are maybe not the triggers |
| 23:43.20 | slightlyrandom | Wait, I can open the trigger editor |
| 23:43.31 | slightlyrandom | Well, I can't open the data editor in any event |
| 23:43.51 | Ousnius | huh? |
| 23:43.53 | slightlyrandom | Kakera: Well, Psi Storm and Fungal Growth both have target zones, look at them to see how it's done |
| 23:43.56 | Ousnius | you can open trig edit but not data? |
| 23:43.57 | Ousnius | wtf |
| 23:44.01 | slightlyrandom | I know |
| 23:44.15 | slightlyrandom | Blizzard has some broken DXshit functionality going one that fucks Linux over |
| 23:44.17 | Kakera | I also can't seem to sell the grenade. Hm. |
| 23:45.17 | slightlyrandom | Kakera: As to the range indicators... You might be able to do that with an actor event |
| 23:45.33 | slightlyrandom | Are there range indicators when other units use their abilities? |
| 23:46.27 | slightlyrandom | Can't seem to recall if this is the case or not |
| 23:49.38 | m50 | can anyone help me?! I can't get a stupid projectile to shoot from the weapon location. I have the Launch Attachment Query set to (Direct) Weapon 1, but that doesn't do anything. It still shoots from the origin! |
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| 23:51.07 | Corbo | I just finished the campaign |
| 23:51.13 | Corbo | not going to say spoilers but |
| 23:51.21 | Corbo | worst ending ever |
| 23:52.01 | Kakera | I tested the high templar for the range indicator |
| 23:52.13 | Kakera | I couldn't do psi storm, but I could do Feedback and the white circle was there |
| 23:52.31 | slightlyrandom | Right, then look at the templars associated actors, should be a range indicator in there |
| 23:52.31 | Kakera | Also Corbo, it's still only a third of the whole story done for Starcraft 2 |
| 23:53.31 | Corbo | Well |
| 23:53.37 | Corbo | that's enough starcraft 2 for me |
| 23:53.56 | sugoi | any ideas on how to allow stimpacks to kill the marine? (i.e. enabled when hp <= 10) |
| 23:54.46 | slightlyrandom | sugoi: Is there a validator that takes care of it? |
| 23:55.02 | slightlyrandom | or a requirement, which one calls which, can't recall |
| 23:55.26 | sugoi | i've been examining both for some time |
| 23:55.32 | sugoi | wasn't finding anything, still looking |
| 23:56.05 | slightlyrandom | Well, there's a crude fix |
| 23:56.31 | slightlyrandom | Which we won't go into, because that's retardd |
| 23:56.39 | Mittsies | do it with triggers |
| 23:56.55 | slightlyrandom | That's a better option |
| 23:57.12 | slightlyrandom | If any unit uses ability stimpack and has 10 or less hp, kill it |
| 23:57.13 | sugoi | it seems advantageous to really understand the datatypes, and not just revert to triggers all the time |
| 23:57.22 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 23:57.24 | slightlyrandom | More work though |
| 23:57.31 | sugoi | i'm in the for the long haul |
| 23:59.46 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/script/language-overview/ by sixen |
| 23:59.58 | tehwalrus | you could change the stimpack ability from a cost of hp to applying a ten damage effect on the marine ontop of the stimpack effect |
