| 00:00.04 | AsaPhelps | why does water dripping on the ground form stalagtites? why not a hole |
| 00:00.32 | s3rius | the minerals in the water gather up |
| 00:00.37 | s3rius | and form a little hill |
| 00:00.39 | Dreathean | because when it passes through the roof section, it carries the particular minerals needed to form it |
| 00:00.41 | Dreathean | ^ |
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| 00:04.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster AxlYin (~axlyin@m355536d0.tmodns.net) |
| 00:05.16 | Mozared | Right, where was I? |
| 00:05.23 | Mozared | Still around, Goomb? |
| 00:05.42 | goomba_ | yeah |
| 00:05.49 | Mozared | So, when do we start? |
| 00:06.00 | goomba_ | as soon i get a decent lineup |
| 00:06.13 | Mozared | Fair enough... what have we got so far |
| 00:06.17 | Mozared | And d'you have any ideas going yet? |
| 00:06.23 | goomba_ | well i made that thread last night heh |
| 00:06.34 | goomba_ | some people said they might join but just you at the moment |
| 00:06.38 | RodOfNOD | so the spectre was an old ghost? |
| 00:06.45 | Mozared | Hmmm, fair enough |
| 00:06.58 | Mozared | Well, you've got my account 'n all, so I guess I'll hear from you once we can get going |
| 00:07.05 | Mozared | If you need a sparring partner for ideas, let me know |
| 00:07.12 | goomba_ | i was thinking once i got the people we could brainstorm general theme for everything |
| 00:07.21 | goomba_ | that everyone would agree on and feel comfortable working on |
| 00:07.34 | Mozared | Sounds like a good idea |
| 00:07.39 | Mozared | That's what I was planning to do for my own project |
| 00:08.00 | goomba_ | :P |
| 00:09.07 | goomba_ | so yeah any of you in the channel who are decent in the editor that want to be a part of an awesome campaign to be |
| 00:09.12 | goomba_ | go post in the thread :) |
| 00:09.18 | AsaPhelps | are you doing voice acting? |
| 00:09.21 | Unrea1 | Rod |
| 00:09.33 | Unrea1 | The Spectre was like a ghost just for the Domin |
| 00:09.41 | Unrea1 | A prototype ghost but better |
| 00:10.08 | goomba_ | i mean i could, i have plenty of recording hardware |
| 00:10.12 | goomba_ | access to at least |
| 00:10.30 | Unrea1 | Terrible Terrible Hardware |
| 00:10.53 | goomba_ | righteo |
| 00:10.55 | *** join/#sc2mapster rrowland (~Ryan.W.Ro@pool-71-103-175-254.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 00:11.13 | Unrea1 | Mindful u dar |
| 00:11.46 | Mindful` | just got back |
| 00:11.50 | Mindful` | why do you ask |
| 00:11.55 | Unrea1 | Played ur map |
| 00:12.00 | Mindful` | :O |
| 00:12.00 | Unrea1 | ^sick |
| 00:12.14 | Mindful` | thanks :D |
| 00:12.16 | Unrea1 | Is there a limit to the scans? |
| 00:12.24 | Mindful` | the security center's energy limits them |
| 00:12.30 | Mindful` | unless you mean the Gene Analyzer |
| 00:12.32 | Mindful` | in which case no |
| 00:12.34 | Mindful` | it just has to be repaired first |
| 00:12.38 | Unrea1 | Seems like we tested the whole time |
| 00:12.39 | Unrea1 | :| |
| 00:12.44 | Mindful` | also, i fixed the memory error |
| 00:12.56 | Mindful` | apparently, aliens having the Eat Food ability corrupted my entire map file |
| 00:12.58 | Unrea1 | That was the first time i played |
| 00:13.07 | Mindful` | yeah, i'm working on reducing the focus on the Gene Analyzer |
| 00:13.08 | AsaPhelps | is your map parasite? |
| 00:13.11 | Mindful` | um |
| 00:13.11 | Mindful` | yes |
| 00:13.11 | Unrea1 | ^ |
| 00:13.29 | Unrea1 | Either i part retard or something is fucked up |
| 00:13.36 | Mindful` | how so? |
| 00:13.48 | Unrea1 | Every time i create my map on Bnet its teams are set to 4v2 |
| 00:13.54 | Unrea1 | Eventhough i have it set to 3v3 |
| 00:13.56 | Unrea1 | Locked |
| 00:14.02 | Mindful` | make sure your custom game variant is not only locked, but default |
| 00:14.22 | Unrea1 | Its prolly not default |
| 00:14.25 | Unrea1 | Thanks :P |
| 00:14.41 | Unrea1 | Yeah i was able to switch it to a second custom |
| 00:14.47 | Unrea1 | Which locked the teams and the game speed |
| 00:15.21 | RodOfNOD | Unrea1: ty |
| 00:15.34 | RodOfNOD | Unrea1: i need a unit to represent some wc3 units |
| 00:15.48 | RodOfNOD | http://www.wc3c.net/rodofnod/risk.htm |
| 00:15.55 | RodOfNOD | trying to replace the rifleman |
| 00:16.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster SixTwo (~a@dhcp-077-251-255-225.chello.nl) |
| 00:16.41 | Unrea1 | You could just import the rifleman :P |
| 00:16.51 | RodOfNOD | nah gonna use all sc ones |
| 00:16.55 | RodOfNOD | cuz i would need to import them all |
| 00:16.58 | RodOfNOD | and i dont want to do that |
| 00:17.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster allenmellon (~allenmelo@97-93-62-207.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 00:17.29 | RodOfNOD | so i have some obvious choices for many of the units |
| 00:17.52 | RodOfNOD | but atm im leaning towards the spectre as the rifleman ie the army private |
| 00:17.59 | Unrea1 | Yea |
| 00:18.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster newbie (~kvirc@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net) |
| 00:18.38 | RodOfNOD | so marilne of coruse marine and medic is medic |
| 00:18.40 | newbie | i need someone to convince me to keep mapping |
| 00:18.47 | newbie | i want to do it but i've been scarred |
| 00:19.12 | Galois-evariste | i am hurt |
| 00:19.14 | Galois-evariste | my pride |
| 00:19.15 | Unrea1 | God damn pisses me off i cant use the single player models in my map >.> |
| 00:19.18 | Galois-evariste | my ingenuity |
| 00:19.20 | RedWraith | Stop being scared and be awesome instead. |
| 00:19.31 | Galois-evariste | you're ignorant |
| 00:19.31 | RedWraith | Unrea1, you can. |
| 00:19.33 | RedWraith | Just kidding. |
| 00:19.43 | Unrea1 | FFFFFFFFUUUUUUU- |
| 00:19.49 | RodOfNOD | why not? |
| 00:20.02 | RodOfNOD | they appear to be working for me |
| 00:20.10 | Reactorex | Unrea1, why can't you? |
| 00:20.10 | SixTwo | yo, anyone knows why I can't see any campaign units under the character list, as posted on sc2mapster ? |
| 00:20.22 | Unrea1 | Like i was workin on my map before the game came out |
| 00:20.24 | Vailreth | awesome i have the same CC |
| 00:20.27 | Reactorex | SixTwo, campaign dependency? |
| 00:20.27 | RodOfNOD | or do u mean the story ones? |
| 00:20.32 | Unrea1 | ^ |
| 00:20.48 | SixTwo | Reactorex how can I change dependency ? |
| 00:20.52 | Reactorex | Like which ones? |
| 00:20.58 | Reactorex | @Rod |
| 00:21.12 | Reactorex | Jimmy Raynor, for instance? |
| 00:22.00 | SixTwo | thanks Reactorex it were dependencies :) |
| 00:22.10 | Reactorex | Just what I heard elsewhere. |
| 00:22.18 | RodOfNOD | yes jimmy would be story |
| 00:22.29 | Reactorex | Rod, I've gotten Jimmy. |
| 00:22.43 | RodOfNOD | im not having issues Unrea1 is |
| 00:22.51 | Reactorex | I know. |
| 00:22.52 | Unrea1 | Basically |
| 00:22.58 | Unrea1 | I go to put the units in |
| 00:23.01 | Reactorex | But it sounded like you implied story units can't be used. |
| 00:23.02 | RodOfNOD | were u making a suggestion? |
| 00:23.03 | Unrea1 | And it deletes all my custom ones |
| 00:23.04 | goomba_ | errrrrrrrrrr zvz makes me want to stick my head in a blender |
| 00:23.08 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 00:23.08 | Reactorex | XD |
| 00:23.12 | Reactorex | But 'campaign' units are different or something. |
| 00:23.22 | Reactorex | That's what I got from "or do u mean the story ones?" |
| 00:23.25 | RodOfNOD | well they are in that most have team colors |
| 00:23.32 | Vailreth | yeah does the same thing to me Unrea1 |
| 00:23.35 | RodOfNOD | and therefore ueslesss to me |
| 00:23.52 | RodOfNOD | i need a super med unit |
| 00:23.55 | RodOfNOD | ideas? |
| 00:24.07 | Unrea1 | A medic with a scale of 2 |
| 00:24.17 | RodOfNOD | try again.... |
| 00:24.17 | AsaPhelps | how about 2.5 |
| 00:24.17 | goomba_ | i need more people for my campaign >:| so i can get to work |
| 00:24.22 | Unrea1 | lol |
| 00:24.29 | Reactorex | Make a black and green corrupted medic, like the corrupted protoss you saw on that one level of the campaign. |
| 00:24.46 | RodOfNOD | i havent seen that |
| 00:24.51 | RodOfNOD | but yes color changing might help |
| 00:24.51 | AsaPhelps | a medic that can heal multiple people at the same time, stimpack people, resurrect |
| 00:25.02 | Reactorex | I was trying to say that. |
| 00:25.04 | Reactorex | XD |
| 00:25.09 | Reactorex | Medivac upgrade to heal 2 units.. |
| 00:25.09 | goomba_ | rodofnod youre on my team |
| 00:25.11 | goomba_ | ok? |
| 00:25.13 | Reactorex | Make it heal up to 4. |
| 00:25.18 | AsaPhelps | what about |
| 00:25.18 | AsaPhelps | 5 |
| 00:25.18 | RodOfNOD | ok what does that get me? |
| 00:25.23 | Reactorex | And have the medic increased healing rate. |
| 00:25.26 | Reactorex | Pft. |
| 00:25.27 | Reactorex | 5 is too much. |
| 00:25.29 | Unrea1 | What about Stetmann |
| 00:25.33 | RodOfNOD | i dont need game play i have game play atm |
| 00:25.34 | goomba_ | being part of an awesome campaign |
| 00:25.37 | Unrea1 | He could be your super medic |
| 00:25.37 | RodOfNOD | just need the actual model |
| 00:25.41 | Reactorex | Stetmann? Nawh. |
| 00:25.42 | Mozared | And you get to work with me /flex |
| 00:25.45 | Reactorex | HAnson. |
| 00:25.46 | Reactorex | Hanson* |
| 00:25.46 | RodOfNOD | http://www.wc3c.net/rodofnod/risk.htm |
| 00:25.48 | AsaPhelps | make kerrigan your medic |
| 00:25.50 | goomba_ | also that |
| 00:25.53 | RodOfNOD | just transferring THAT to sc2 |
| 00:26.03 | Reactorex | Use infested Hanson as your supermedic XD |
| 00:26.32 | Unrea1 | Did you guys see Hanson in zerg form :P |
| 00:26.36 | RodOfNOD | hoping for productive answers :P |
| 00:27.07 | Reactorex | Go into campaign. |
| 00:27.12 | AsaPhelps | well what qualifies as a super medic |
| 00:27.14 | Reactorex | Play up to hte protoss stuff. |
| 00:27.16 | AsaPhelps | you mean just a model? |
| 00:27.23 | Mozared | Does anybody else hear "HMMMBOP... DI-DA HMMBOP" in his head whenever he sees the name 'hanson'? |
| 00:27.29 | Reactorex | Then do the first level where you have to fight enemy protoss. |
| 00:27.52 | Reactorex | No idea what you're talking about, Mozared. |
| 00:28.03 | AsaPhelps | ~hanson |
| 00:28.04 | purl | !lart hanson |
| 00:28.08 | tehwalrus | how do you make an ability autocast without stopping the unit using it? |
| 00:28.10 | AsaPhelps | !lart hanson |
| 00:28.17 | Reactorex | ~lart |
| 00:28.19 | RodOfNOD | im attempting to do it all with terran units |
| 00:28.22 | Reactorex | ~!lart hanson |
| 00:28.23 | AsaPhelps | make it transient |
| 00:28.26 | Mozared | You don't? Serious? Youtube "Hanson MMMBop" |
| 00:28.29 | Mozared | That's a damn classic man |
| 00:28.38 | tehwalrus | ty |
| 00:28.44 | Lasion | its a plague >_> |
| 00:28.59 | Mozared | Probably =P |
| 00:29.13 | Lasion | That song ruined highschool :P |
| 00:29.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster ckknight (~ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
| 00:29.28 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:29.30 | Mozared | Probably too =P Still a classic though =P |
| 00:29.44 | RodOfNOD | ok this is weird |
| 00:29.51 | RodOfNOD | i took a campaign model and duplicated it |
| 00:29.53 | Lasion | more like a one-hit-wonder |
| 00:29.55 | RodOfNOD | and now i cant see it to place it |
| 00:29.56 | tehwalrus | I agree with Lasion |
| 00:30.04 | Unrea1 | Someone needs to make the TF2 idea |
| 00:30.13 | Unrea1 | I rly want to play TF2 on SC2 :D |
| 00:30.17 | Lasion | classic(s) is more than one song imo ^^ |
| 00:30.18 | Reactorex | Frrrrk. |
| 00:30.19 | tehwalrus | tf2 dota-like? |
| 00:30.21 | Reactorex | JEEZ. |
| 00:30.24 | tehwalrus | or just f2 |
| 00:30.27 | RodOfNOD | is this a known bug? |
| 00:30.35 | Unrea1 | Point capture |
| 00:30.36 | Reactorex | That's like the twelfth time today that my screen has artifacted. |
| 00:30.57 | Reactorex | RodOfNOD, that happened the first time I tried to duplicate a marine. |
| 00:31.01 | Reactorex | Couldn't see it for shit. |
| 00:31.08 | tehwalrus | I dont think Blizzard would like you making a complete copy of TF2 |
| 00:31.11 | RodOfNOD | how did u resolve it? |
| 00:31.24 | Reactorex | I didn't, really. |
| 00:31.32 | Reactorex | Just deleted the crap and re-did it. |
| 00:31.33 | Lasion | why wouldn't they? |
| 00:32.08 | tehwalrus | whenever you upload a map it says "dont go stealing other peoples intelectual property" |
| 00:32.37 | Reactorex | You know all of your maps are the sole property of Activision Blizzard, yeah? |
| 00:33.05 | RodOfNOD | k i deleted it |
| 00:33.13 | RodOfNOD | and it still wont show |
| 00:33.21 | RodOfNOD | is it beacue i imported a beta map? |
| 00:33.35 | Reactorex | Can't say for sure. |
| 00:33.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster AxlYin (~axlyin@m355536d0.tmodns.net) |
| 00:33.57 | AxlYin | HAI |
| 00:34.06 | Reactorex | BAI. |
| 00:34.07 | Reactorex | :P |
| 00:34.14 | AxlYin | ONOZ |
| 00:34.18 | Reactorex | Btw, I says I can still whoop you in SotIS. XD |
| 00:34.25 | AxlYin | yeah I agree |
| 00:34.26 | AxlYin | lol |
| 00:34.41 | AxlYin | is the tauren marine in yet ekcolnovkol? |
| 00:34.48 | Reactorex | GAH |
| 00:34.49 | Reactorex | NOT AGAIN |
| 00:34.51 | RodOfNOD | why does blizzard have color on the model if it doesnt change the color :P |
| 00:34.56 | AxlYin | er ekcolnovkol |
| 00:35.14 | Unrea1 | Rod cause the units were made for single player |
| 00:35.21 | Reactorex | 'cuz it's easier, Rod? |
| 00:35.21 | Unrea1 | XO |
| 00:35.36 | RodOfNOD | huh? |
| 00:35.50 | AxlYin | but why is it there if it does nothing |
| 00:35.57 | Reactorex | I'm sure putting down a little bit of specific color is easier than interchangeable color. |
| 00:36.13 | AxlYin | but it does nothing >.> |
| 00:36.30 | Reactorex | So? It's the single player team color. |
| 00:36.32 | RodOfNOD | either ur having fun with me Reactorex or ur not undestanding |
| 00:36.40 | RodOfNOD | huh? |
| 00:36.45 | Reactorex | That's what you're talking about, isn't it? |
| 00:36.47 | RodOfNOD | talking about data editor |
| 00:36.48 | RodOfNOD | on the model |
| 00:36.50 | Reactorex | You haven't said hte unit yet :P |
| 00:36.52 | AxlYin | in model |
| 00:36.58 | AxlYin | there is a field |
| 00:37.00 | AxlYin | that says color |
| 00:37.03 | AxlYin | IT DOES NOTHING |
| 00:37.03 | Reactorex | Or unit's model it belongs to. |
| 00:37.05 | AxlYin | >.> |
| 00:37.07 | Reactorex | Ah. Hmph. |
| 00:37.11 | AxlYin | not actor, but model |
| 00:37.15 | RodOfNOD | correct |
| 00:37.18 | Reactorex | Fuzzy descriptions for thel ose. |
| 00:37.21 | AxlYin | i know exactly what he's talking about |
| 00:37.25 | RodOfNOD | to change tint u have to use unitbirth |
| 00:37.26 | Reactorex | I blame 4chan. |
| 00:37.28 | RodOfNOD | but im wondering WHY |
| 00:37.29 | AxlYin | lmao |
| 00:37.33 | Unrea1 | Rod if you really wanted to you could sit there for hours trying to perfect a color :O |
| 00:37.36 | Reactorex | To change tint? |
| 00:37.38 | goomba_ | guys good news |
| 00:37.39 | AxlYin | don't have to use unit birth |
| 00:37.46 | AxlYin | you can use actor creation :D |
| 00:37.59 | AxlYin | wut goomba_ |
| 00:38.02 | goomba_ | my editor found terrain_garage.dds |
| 00:38.05 | goomba_ | !!! |
| 00:38.10 | AxlYin | ZOMG |
| 00:38.11 | AxlYin | !!! |
| 00:38.14 | AxlYin | congrats! |
| 00:38.17 | AxlYin | :D |
| 00:38.18 | Reactorex | Wutz that supposed to be? |
| 00:38.26 | goomba_ | the legendary missing file |
| 00:38.26 | wOlfLinG | It's a miracle! |
| 00:38.36 | AxlYin | it means he has full version of starcraft 2 |
| 00:38.37 | RodOfNOD | AxlYin: good to know |
| 00:38.39 | Reactorex | Wut legendary missing file? |
| 00:38.41 | AxlYin | beta version failed |
| 00:38.43 | wOlfLinG | All hail the almighty goomba_! |
| 00:38.44 | goomba_ | the |
| 00:38.48 | goomba_ | missing file |
| 00:38.52 | AxlYin | ^ |
| 00:38.52 | goomba_ | the |
| 00:38.55 | Reactorex | Mine had sno such problem. XD |
| 00:38.56 | AxlYin | ^ |
| 00:39.02 | AxlYin | sno? |
| 00:39.07 | AxlYin | DEATH BY SNU SNU? |
| 00:39.11 | Reactorex | I'M ON A FIVE YEAR OLD COMPUTER. |
| 00:39.15 | Reactorex | Sue me for momentary lag |
| 00:39.19 | goomba_ | and blizzard said, let there be terrain_garage.dds, and it was so |
| 00:39.21 | Reactorex | . |
| 00:39.22 | goomba_ | and the people said: |
| 00:39.31 | Reactorex | And the people said: So what? |
| 00:39.35 | Reactorex | :P |
| 00:39.42 | goomba_ | now our garages have proper textures |
| 00:39.43 | goomba_ | amen |
| 00:39.50 | AxlYin | ^ |
| 00:39.53 | Reactorex | That's what the map makers said. x3 |
| 00:40.06 | Unrea1 | 0wn3d |
| 00:40.07 | Reactorex | The players are so heartless. T_T |
| 00:41.10 | tehwalrus | man, somehow i cant figure out how to make an ability to add one vespene gas to a player |
| 00:41.21 | Unrea1 | An ability :O |
| 00:41.33 | wOlfLinG | tehwalrus: Use a trigger :P |
| 00:41.42 | Reactorex | tehwalrus: do a reverse repair? |
| 00:41.50 | depthsofchaos | then blizzard said, let there be a working popularity system, and the world turned into chaos |
| 00:42.05 | RodOfNOD | sigh |
| 00:42.10 | RodOfNOD | just crashed the editor |
| 00:42.20 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 00:42.23 | Reactorex | depthsofchaos: moar like, then blizz said, "Let there be a working popularity system!", and the world was like, "wut?" |
| 00:42.44 | Kakera | Hey guys, have you seen Duran in the campaign yet? |
| 00:42.59 | Reactorex | Have you, Kakera? |
| 00:43.06 | wOlfLinG | Blizzard said: Let there be no DotA and the people said 'I hate starcraft now!' |
| 00:43.10 | depthsofchaos | you dont question a multinational company! tiny human, we know whats best for you! |
| 00:43.28 | Kakera | I think I have, without knowing it. |
| 00:43.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170) |
| 00:43.35 | wOlfLinG | Whos duran? |
| 00:43.36 | Reactorex | Orly? |
| 00:43.39 | Kakera | Samir Duran |
| 00:43.40 | Reactorex | ⦠|
| 00:43.41 | wOlfLinG | Oh, that secret level? |
| 00:43.43 | Reactorex | Wait. |
| 00:43.45 | Reactorex | You serious, Wolfling? |
| 00:43.45 | wOlfLinG | Nope, not yet |
| 00:43.50 | Kakera | No, not that secret level. |
| 00:43.52 | Reactorex | Samir Duran was on a lot of levels. |
| 00:43.52 | depthsofchaos | whos duran :p |
| 00:43.59 | tehwalrus | that reminds me, is there any chance blizzard is goign to update the wditor so heroes are easier to work with? |
| 00:44.04 | Kakera | He's been there pretty much from the beginning, I believe. |
| 00:44.05 | wOlfLinG | i didn't play the whole sc campaign, but i remembered as soon as i pressed enter -.- |
| 00:44.07 | depthsofchaos | i finished sc1 dont remember :p |
| 00:44.14 | Kakera | It might be a red herring though. |
| 00:44.16 | AsaPhelps | Some guy wanted a tutorial done so I'm making it, does anyone have a recommendation for formatting? |
| 00:44.18 | Kakera | It looks way too simple. |
| 00:44.26 | wOlfLinG | ? |
| 00:44.31 | wOlfLinG | how so? |
| 00:44.33 | Reactorex | What, Stetmann? |
| 00:44.37 | depthsofchaos | use left alignment |
| 00:44.46 | Kakera | Haha, Stetmann would make a very interesting Duran. |
| 00:44.54 | Reactorex | Yeahno. |
| 00:45.05 | depthsofchaos | and dustin browder as jim raynor |
| 00:45.05 | Kakera | But naw. |
| 00:45.10 | Reactorex | Stetmann sounds like Llyod from Tales of Symphonia. |
| 00:45.15 | Reactorex | PFT |
| 00:45.24 | Kakera | Remember the Moebius thing? |
| 00:45.26 | Reactorex | Dustin Browder is the merc Goliath. |
| 00:45.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster Pychnight (~war450@c-24-16-68-222.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 00:45.36 | depthsofchaos | i know and hes ugly |
| 00:45.37 | wOlfLinG | yeah |
| 00:45.39 | Pychnight | hey |
| 00:45.40 | Reactorex | Yeah. |
| 00:45.44 | Reactorex | ofc I do. |
| 00:45.56 | Pychnight | any one wanna help me on my map now? |
| 00:45.58 | Kakera | Find the name of its leader. I'm not talking about the son, but the other. |
| 00:46.23 | wOlfLinG | um... the leader is valerian menkst |
| 00:46.31 | Kakera | Not the son. |
| 00:46.31 | depthsofchaos | niiiiiiiceeeeeeeeeee |
| 00:46.32 | wOlfLinG | And i spelt that wrong -.- |
| 00:46.36 | Kakera | Well, he's not really the leader. |
| 00:46.38 | depthsofchaos | spoiled |
| 00:46.41 | Pychnight | ._> |
| 00:46.49 | Pychnight | an one? |
| 00:46.51 | Kakera | That's why I didn't explicitly said his name. /palm |
| 00:46.52 | depthsofchaos | that old guy is the leader |
| 00:46.59 | Reactorex | He owns Moebius, not necessarily is the leader. |
| 00:47.06 | depthsofchaos | when you have to kill the data storage before kerrigan gets it |
| 00:47.09 | Reactorex | (talking about Valerian) |
| 00:47.15 | Mozared | Did somebdoy just say Dustin Browder? |
| 00:47.21 | Mozared | TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGE |
| 00:47.21 | Reactorex | NO. |
| 00:47.24 | Reactorex | We said... |
| 00:47.32 | depthsofchaos | pychnight |
| 00:47.32 | wOlfLinG | Ok, so the guy who talks to you in the moebius mission? |
| 00:47.35 | Reactorex | Umm... |
| 00:47.37 | depthsofchaos | just tel your question |
| 00:47.48 | goomba_ | isnt that a cheat now |
| 00:47.51 | Reactorex | Must in Bowser? |
| 00:47.52 | Kakera | You see his face in the dialogue for the Moebius mission |
| 00:47.55 | goomba_ | terribleterribledamage |
| 00:48.07 | rrowland | Friend just got invite to hang out with day9 and qxc and didn't invite me |
| 00:48.10 | Mozared | Aye, it is |
| 00:48.13 | Mozared | It's godmode cheat |
| 00:48.18 | goomba_ | lol rrowland that sucks |
| 00:48.21 | wOlfLinG | rrowland... /palm |
| 00:48.22 | goomba_ | day9 is pretty awesome |
| 00:48.26 | Reactorex | I didn't find the cheat documentation anywhere. >_> |
| 00:48.31 | depthsofchaos | is day9 a superhuman or wut? |
| 00:48.32 | Mozared | I tried that out in the campaign |
| 00:48.36 | rrowland | We both met them at the launch party |
| 00:48.38 | Mozared | And disabled my achievements by trying it out |
| 00:48.43 | Mozared | Have to replay the last 4 missions >.> |
| 00:48.48 | rrowland | But we went with his friend, who happens to be female |
| 00:48.54 | rrowland | And of course they want to hang out with her |
| 00:48.57 | wOlfLinG | Cheat: Terribleterribledamage = every unit does 100000000 damage |
| 00:48.59 | Pychnight | well, the question is releated to custom attributes |
| 00:49.00 | rrowland | And she invited him, I've only met her twice |
| 00:49.08 | Kakera | You guys give up on finding the scientist's name? |
| 00:49.10 | AsaPhelps | ttd is god mode |
| 00:49.24 | goomba_ | it is a good day to die |
| 00:49.28 | goomba_ | power overwhelming |
| 00:49.30 | AsaPhelps | plaguuuuuuuuuuuuuuu is probably one |
| 00:49.35 | Unrea1 | If i wanted a unit to change models when upgrade how could i |
| 00:49.43 | Pychnight | i did not see any where you can actually make a custom atribute do something if it has +1 to it |
| 00:49.44 | AsaPhelps | morphing animation |
| 00:49.46 | Unrea1 | Cause apparently im doing it wrong |
| 00:49.48 | Unrea1 | I just tried that |
| 00:49.50 | Reactorex | Plaguuuuu? |
| 00:49.58 | Vailreth | give me a second unlrea1 |
| 00:49.59 | Mozared | Plaguuuuu.... how many u's would it be with tho? |
| 00:50.02 | Unrea1 | kk |
| 00:50.06 | Kakera | Well anyway, his name is Emil Narud |
| 00:50.12 | wOlfLinG | Plaguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu is more like it ^^ |
| 00:50.13 | AsaPhelps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpuv7VPb2rA |
| 00:50.19 | depthsofchaos | psychnight i dont get what you want |
| 00:50.54 | Pychnight | i want custom attributes to unlock tech depending on the number even abilitys... |
| 00:50.55 | Reactorex | You're saying it's Duran? |
| 00:51.02 | Kakera | The scientist contact with you from Moebius is named Emil Narud. |
| 00:51.06 | rrowland | Wow poster contest was a fucking joke |
| 00:51.09 | Vailreth | well while my browser is lagging i have an idea to do what you want Unrea1 |
| 00:51.11 | Reactorex | Emil != Samir. |
| 00:51.12 | Reactorex | >_> |
| 00:51.13 | Kakera | Emil -Narud- |
| 00:51.18 | wOlfLinG | That plagu vid was epic lol |
| 00:51.20 | Reactorex | I know. |
| 00:51.22 | Reactorex | I saw it. |
| 00:51.23 | Unrea1 | Browser lag ftl :X |
| 00:51.24 | AsaPhelps | did they determine the winner by number of likes rrow? |
| 00:51.26 | Vailreth | editor not browser age |
| 00:51.45 | Mozared | In regards to Narud tho |
| 00:51.50 | Kakera | In a way I'm tempted to believe that his name is a red herring |
| 00:51.50 | Mozared | isn't he white? And isn't Duran black? |
| 00:52.05 | Kakera | I'm pretty sure Duran is stronger than that. |
| 00:52.10 | depthsofchaos | psychnight dont think thats possible |
| 00:52.13 | Galois-evariste | duran is like omniracial i think |
| 00:52.14 | Galois-evariste | he's black |
| 00:52.15 | depthsofchaos | youd have to use triggers |
| 00:52.18 | Galois-evariste | but he has a white-middle eastern accent |
| 00:52.20 | wOlfLinG | Duran is a xel'naga -.- |
| 00:52.25 | Kakera | Duran is not |
| 00:52.25 | Galois-evariste | duran never said he was |
| 00:52.29 | Kakera | Duran is working for a much higher power |
| 00:52.31 | Galois-evariste | duran hinted at his association with them though |
| 00:52.31 | wOlfLinG | he could be though |
| 00:52.34 | Galois-evariste | yeah he could be |
| 00:52.36 | Kakera | Probably the Dark Voice |
| 00:52.36 | Galois-evariste | but you said he is |
| 00:52.39 | Reactorex | AKA: The Dark One. |
| 00:52.42 | wOlfLinG | ^^ |
| 00:52.43 | Pychnight | i will tell you my threoy |
| 00:52.48 | Reactorex | Just like the Protoss said. |
| 00:53.00 | Reactorex | "The Preservers serve a far higher power now" |
| 00:53.04 | wOlfLinG | hmm... a protoss zerg duran hybrid |
| 00:53.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster deathnight114_ (~chatzilla@c-24-19-236-254.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 00:53.14 | AsaPhelps | spoilerssssssssss |
| 00:53.20 | Unrea1 | I see the animation starting then it just goes back to normal :| |
| 00:53.20 | wOlfLinG | Noes! |
| 00:53.26 | wOlfLinG | Play teh campaign then >:( |
| 00:53.32 | goomba_ | yall need to go play the damn campaign already lol |
| 00:53.41 | Reactorex | nubz. |
| 00:53.41 | Unrea1 | Oh you know what hold on |
| 00:53.47 | Unrea1 | I dont think i added finish >.> |
| 00:53.51 | Reactorex | I haven't been mapping for the last few days 'cause I've been campaigning. |
| 00:53.54 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:53.56 | Kakera | I finished it in two days. >.> I'd have been done in 1 if I didn't grab achievements as I went by. |
| 00:54.01 | AsaPhelps | i've been campaigning for obama |
| 00:54.02 | RodOfNOD | so i preplaced a campaign unit into a new map |
| 00:54.04 | RodOfNOD | closed the map |
| 00:54.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster Acolyte1 (615ee007@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.94.224.7) |
| 00:54.08 | RodOfNOD | and then when i open the map its gone |
| 00:54.11 | RodOfNOD | how lovely |
| 00:54.13 | Reactorex | KAkera: I'm still working on it. |
| 00:54.15 | Reactorex | I've been playing since the first day. |
| 00:54.20 | Acolyte1 | rodofnod |
| 00:54.21 | goomba_ | rod the editor is just proteting |
| 00:54.23 | Acolyte1 | what is wrong? |
| 00:54.23 | AsaPhelps | I started doing campaign on brutal |
| 00:54.26 | Reactorex | My comp keeps f***ing crashing. |
| 00:54.26 | Mozared | Anyone else thinks the 'Dark voice' is Jigsaw from Saw? |
| 00:54.27 | goomba_ | it wants you to make maps for the campaign anyway |
| 00:54.28 | AsaPhelps | but it was brutal |
| 00:54.31 | Galois-evariste | i think duran works for obama |
| 00:54.33 | Mozared | Who's ejust playing a cruel cruel game with the world? |
| 00:54.39 | AsaPhelps | ~obama |
| 00:54.42 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, obama is a communist |
| 00:54.45 | Kakera | Duran for presidency... |
| 00:54.46 | Mozared | ~seen obama |
| 00:54.48 | purl | obama <n=chatzill@208-58-24-202.c3-0.smt-ubr1.atw-smt.pa.cable.rcn.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 614d 18h 1m 56s ago, saying: 'Ha ha ha.'. |
| 00:54.48 | RodOfNOD | proteting? |
| 00:54.50 | Reactorex | Galois-evariste: I think Duran IS obama.... |
| 00:54.51 | Galois-evariste | obama = duran |
| 00:54.52 | AsaPhelps | hahaha |
| 00:54.55 | Galois-evariste | yeah reactor |
| 00:54.56 | Acolyte1 | RodofNOD: What is going on? |
| 00:54.56 | Galois-evariste | i just got it too |
| 00:54.58 | Mozared | omg, Obama's a WoW player |
| 00:55.03 | Acolyte1 | I might have the same problem :\ |
| 00:55.05 | Kakera | Obama laughs. |
| 00:55.08 | Galois-evariste | mozared PROOF |
| 00:55.15 | AsaPhelps | ~seen cheney |
| 00:55.16 | purl | cheney <n=Webchat@h44-41.reznet.ucalgary.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 873d 16h 36m 11s ago, saying: 'karsten, the iq in those channels are lower.'. |
| 00:55.20 | Galois-evariste | obama is not a secret wow player |
| 00:55.24 | RodOfNOD | Acolyte1: i made a new map, added dependancy of campaign, added ONE unit to the middle of the map that was campaign, then closed editor reopened and its not there |
| 00:55.36 | AsaPhelps | people are having a lot of problems like that rod |
| 00:55.47 | Acolyte1 | that is *exactly* what happened to me |
| 00:55.47 | RodOfNOD | im on a mac |
| 00:55.48 | Acolyte1 | it's gone. |
| 00:55.52 | Acolyte1 | I'm on a PC |
| 00:55.54 | AsaPhelps | there was a thread about a fix, like adding the dependecies again or somthing |
| 00:55.55 | RodOfNOD | lovely |
| 00:56.00 | Acolyte1 | and I can't place my beloved colonists |
| 00:56.03 | Acolyte1 | :[ |
| 00:56.04 | Reactorex | Hi. I'm a Mac. -- and I'm a PC. -- |
| 00:56.10 | wOlfLinG | Move the dependancy to the top of the list |
| 00:56.17 | RodOfNOD | so for now i guess i add all the uinits i want as imported units eh> |
| 00:56.19 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 00:56.19 | wOlfLinG | and it will wok |
| 00:56.20 | Acolyte1 | the campaign one? |
| 00:56.21 | wOlfLinG | work* |
| 00:56.24 | wOlfLinG | yeah |
| 00:56.30 | wOlfLinG | any campign ones you have |
| 00:56.53 | Acolyte1 | heh |
| 00:56.54 | Acolyte1 | worked |
| 00:56.56 | Mozared | How long does IRC actually remember that shit? 614 days ago? |
| 00:56.57 | Acolyte1 | thank you :D |
| 00:57.21 | Acolyte1 | look above |
| 00:57.23 | Acolyte1 | 873 days |
| 00:57.24 | Acolyte1 | :O |
| 00:57.30 | Mozared | Aye, even worse |
| 00:57.32 | Mozared | IRC is weird |
| 00:57.37 | Mozared | It's like this scary sea of text |
| 00:57.39 | Acolyte1 | A computer: It never forgives..it never forgets |
| 00:57.39 | Mozared | And people are cool |
| 00:57.42 | Mozared | But I don't understand it |
| 00:58.42 | RodOfNOD | lol ty that worked wOlfLinG |
| 00:59.11 | wOlfLinG | np ^^ |
| 00:59.22 | Acolyte1 | How interesting.. |
| 00:59.30 | Acolyte1 | I placed a Prisoner (civilian) on the map |
| 00:59.33 | Acolyte1 | and his arm appears to be shaking |
| 00:59.36 | Acolyte1 | or vibrating |
| 00:59.40 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 00:59.59 | RodOfNOD | wtf did they not team colore the damn civilians etc |
| 01:00.10 | RodOfNOD | even sc1 had them team coored |
| 01:00.13 | RodOfNOD | collored |
| 01:00.16 | RodOfNOD | grrr |
| 01:00.17 | RodOfNOD | colored |
| 01:00.17 | Unrea1 | Rod theres black or white |
| 01:00.18 | Unrea1 | Pic |
| 01:00.29 | RodOfNOD | huh? |
| 01:00.42 | Unrea1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.09 | RodOfNOD | shit |
| 01:03.11 | Reactorex | Mozared, it's not IRC remembering it. |
| 01:03.13 | Reactorex | It's a bot. |
| 01:03.16 | RodOfNOD | why cant i change the scale of this actor? |
| 01:03.22 | Mozared | smart bot still tho |
| 01:03.22 | Acolyte1 | Oh no |
| 01:03.25 | Acolyte1 | I hate when I do that |
| 01:03.33 | Reactorex | ~seen barack |
| 01:03.34 | purl | barack <n=MyName@cpe-68-175-119-32.nyc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 632d 20h 28m 1s ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 01:03.34 | Acolyte1 | I forget to change the "fill all" brush |
| 01:03.36 | tehwalrus | my custom abilities aren't showing up in the list of abilities in the trigger editor :/ |
| 01:03.40 | Reactorex | ~seen mario |
| 01:03.41 | purl | mario <~mario@orion.slackverse.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 50d 5h 20m 39s ago, saying: 'im ocasionaly missing "chunks of display", windows partialy dissapear and theres background on its place, any idea what is wrong? i run kde 4.4.3 on Slackware 13.1'. |
| 01:03.44 | Acolyte1 | to normal "add texture" brush |
| 01:04.07 | goomba_ | marios lame :\ |
| 01:04.17 | Reactorex | ~seen auron |
| 01:04.18 | purl | auron <~Mowsey@adsl-99-64-83-125.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 139d 22h 38m 41s ago, saying: 'fuck it's registered'. |
| 01:04.30 | Reactorex | ~seen blizzard |
| 01:04.31 | purl | i haven't seen 'blizzard', Reactorex |
| 01:04.39 | Reactorex | ~seen net_creator |
| 01:04.40 | purl | i haven't seen 'net_creator', Reactorex |
| 01:04.44 | Reactorex | 0.o |
| 01:05.08 | Vailreth | ~seen ProzaicMuze |
| 01:05.09 | purl | prozaicmuze <~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 41m 22s ago, saying: 'rrowland was likely on crack for whatever bug he encountered'. |
| 01:05.15 | Reactorex | ~seen bush |
| 01:05.16 | purl | bush <~Brad@c-174-60-92-91.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 40d 1h 32m ago, saying: 'whats wrong with you guys, that makes perfect sense'. |
| 01:05.22 | mahashiro | is there a way to make a trigger keep track of its own timers? |
| 01:05.27 | mahashiro | or do I have to have global ones? |
| 01:05.29 | Reactorex | ~seen clinton |
| 01:05.30 | purl | clinton <n=clinton@c-68-61-79-1.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 859d 21h 56m 50s ago, saying: 'Shadow_mil, dpkg -i filename.deb'. |
| 01:05.35 | ubdead | ok time for bed y'all |
| 01:05.39 | ubdead | cya laters |
| 01:05.42 | RodOfNOD | nite |
| 01:05.43 | mahashiro | gnight |
| 01:05.53 | Reactorex | Bush and Clinton... both Debian users. |
| 01:06.04 | Reactorex | What is the US coming to? XD |
| 01:06.23 | RodOfNOD | well theres a fun bug |
| 01:06.29 | Reactorex | And unheralded era of security and hard times? |
| 01:06.33 | RodOfNOD | scale doesnt work in editor on a mac :P |
| 01:06.38 | Vailreth | ouch.. |
| 01:06.47 | Reactorex | WUT? |
| 01:06.47 | RodOfNOD | in game yes |
| 01:06.50 | AsaPhelps | ~seen penis |
| 01:06.50 | purl | AsaPhelps: i haven't seen 'penis' |
| 01:06.53 | Reactorex | Scale from what? |
| 01:06.55 | Reactorex | trigger editor? |
| 01:06.59 | RodOfNOD | no data |
| 01:07.04 | RodOfNOD | on the actor |
| 01:07.07 | Reactorex | ~seen your mom |
| 01:07.07 | purl | i haven't seen 'your mom', Reactorex |
| 01:07.15 | AsaPhelps | ~seen seen |
| 01:07.16 | purl | AsaPhelps: i haven't seen 'seen' |
| 01:07.28 | Mozared | ~seen purl |
| 01:07.29 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (4h 57m 27s) #botpark (4h 57m 27s) #linuxfund (4h 57m 27s) #waruidev (4h 57m 27s) #how (4h 57m 27s) #sc2mapster (4h 57m 27s) #edev (4h 57m 27s) #fossfund (4h 57m 27s) #hosernet (4h 57m 27s) #norganna (4h 57m 27s) #ud (4h 57m 27s) ##ducleague (4h 57m 27s) ##kierra (4h 57m 27s) #dub (4h 57m 27s) #teleconf (4h 57m 27s) #openezx (4h ... |
| 01:07.29 | AsaPhelps | ~seen Charlie St. Cloud |
| 01:07.29 | purl | AsaPhelps: i haven't seen 'charlie st. cloud' |
| 01:07.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster WhiteBomber (~WhiteBomb@adsl-074-171-206-222.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) |
| 01:07.54 | Mozared | ~seen the rain |
| 01:07.55 | purl | Mozared: i haven't seen 'the rain' |
| 01:08.00 | Vailreth | ~seen Reactorex|cut|it|out |
| 01:08.01 | purl | Vailreth: i haven't seen 'reactorex|cut|it|out' |
| 01:08.03 | Mozared | Alright enough with the lame joke |
| 01:08.10 | WhiteBomber | ~Seen your mom |
| 01:08.11 | purl | WhiteBomber: i haven't seen 'your mom' |
| 01:08.39 | RodOfNOD | purl gets around |
| 01:08.43 | WhiteBomber | ~WTF |
| 01:09.21 | WhiteBomber | ~sixen |
| 01:09.22 | purl | i guess sixen is wanting a name |
| 01:09.29 | wOlfLinG | ~seen my soul |
| 01:09.30 | purl | i haven't seen 'my soul', wOlfLinG |
| 01:09.39 | WhiteBomber | Why am I doing this? |
| 01:09.44 | Reactorex | ~zero |
| 01:09.45 | purl | [zero] like the black hole of sanity that makes up Mowsey. |
| 01:09.53 | wOlfLinG | ~wOlfLinG |
| 01:09.59 | wOlfLinG | :( |
| 01:10.04 | Reactorex | ~mario |
| 01:10.20 | Reactorex | Bawh. BOWSER. |
| 01:10.23 | Reactorex | ~bowser |
| 01:10.24 | Vailreth | ~Luigi |
| 01:10.25 | WhiteBomber | ~seen the campaign |
| 01:10.26 | purl | i haven't seen 'the campaign', WhiteBomber |
| 01:10.33 | Reactorex | >_> Clever... |
| 01:10.33 | wOlfLinG | ~seen Starcraft |
| 01:10.34 | purl | wOlfLinG: i haven't seen 'starcraft' |
| 01:10.42 | wOlfLinG | ~seen a movie |
| 01:10.42 | purl | i haven't seen 'a movie', wOlfLinG |
| 01:10.45 | Reactorex | ~seen the light |
| 01:10.45 | purl | i haven't seen 'the light', Reactorex |
| 01:10.57 | wOlfLinG | Really doesn't get out much does he? :/ |
| 01:10.58 | WhiteBomber | ~seen Avatar: The Last Airbender |
| 01:10.58 | purl | i haven't seen 'avatar: the last airbender', WhiteBomber |
| 01:11.00 | WhiteBomber | GOOD FOR YOU, PURL! |
| 01:11.04 | Reactorex | Nope. |
| 01:11.04 | Vailreth | ~question |
| 01:11.05 | purl | methinks question is If you have a question and want people to give useful answers, make sure you have read this first: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 01:11.11 | wOlfLinG | ~seen the power of zerg |
| 01:11.11 | purl | wOlfLinG: i haven't seen 'the power of zerg' |
| 01:11.14 | Reactorex | ~avatar |
| 01:11.15 | purl | i guess avatar is an incarnation of a god |
| 01:11.15 | wOlfLinG | ~zerg is cool :D |
| 01:11.16 | purl | ...but zerg is already something else... |
| 01:11.28 | wOlfLinG | ^^ |
| 01:11.38 | WhiteBomber | ;( |
| 01:11.40 | Reactorex | ~protoss |
| 01:11.41 | purl | En'taro adun. |
| 01:11.43 | wOlfLinG | That was good timing :D |
| 01:11.47 | WhiteBomber | Avatar was a baaaad movie. |
| 01:11.50 | Reactorex | THE WAY THEY PRONOUNCE PROTOSS IN THAT ONE SONG IS WEIRD. |
| 01:11.52 | WhiteBomber | (Both of them.) |
| 01:11.56 | wOlfLinG | ~Zeratul |
| 01:11.57 | Reactorex | Don't they say En'taro Tassadar now? |
| 01:12.03 | Reactorex | If so, who's Adun? |
| 01:12.04 | wOlfLinG | yeah >:( |
| 01:12.07 | WhiteBomber | They do. |
| 01:12.16 | wOlfLinG | Adun was their god i think |
| 01:12.17 | Reactorex | The former executor? |
| 01:12.28 | wOlfLinG | ~say E.taro Tassadar foolish mortals! |
| 01:12.29 | purl | E.taro Tassadar foolish mortals! |
| 01:12.33 | Reactorex | Why would they replace Adun's name with Tassadar, then? |
| 01:12.34 | wOlfLinG | dammit! |
| 01:12.35 | Mozared | I thought "En'taro" basically means "Long live" |
| 01:12.38 | Reactorex | Also, Tassadar can't die. |
| 01:12.45 | Mozared | And they use the name of their latest 'hero of the week' |
| 01:12.52 | Reactorex | XD |
| 01:12.54 | Mozared | Not really based on anything, but that seemed logical to me |
| 01:12.59 | Reactorex | You mean dead hero of the week. |
| 01:13.01 | wOlfLinG | Tassadar is actually a ghost now |
| 01:13.04 | WhiteBomber | I'm not liking having to replay the whole campaign multiple times >_>' |
| 01:13.09 | Mozared | Not necissarily dead |
| 01:13.13 | Mozared | But in most cases, I guess so |
| 01:13.14 | WhiteBomber | Is there any better way to finish all the tech achievements? |
| 01:13.22 | Reactorex | They say En'taro Tassadar, but believe him to be dead. |
| 01:13.23 | Mozared | I was wondering that myself White |
| 01:13.27 | Reactorex | Long live the dead panzy king! :D |
| 01:13.32 | WhiteBomber | The Rory Swann portrait will be a RARE SIGHT INDEED |
| 01:13.43 | wOlfLinG | Long live a dead guy! |
| 01:13.46 | Reactorex | SO THAT'S WHY YOU WANT SWANN. |
| 01:13.49 | Mozared | What do you need for that anyway? All upgrades? |
| 01:13.52 | WhiteBomber | 'Cause nobody wants to play the whole thing three times. It's tedious. |
| 01:13.52 | Mozared | I thought it'd be that |
| 01:13.58 | Mozared | But the achieve text is rather inconclusive |
| 01:14.01 | WhiteBomber | All tech achievements. |
| 01:14.03 | Reactorex | Yup. |
| 01:14.07 | Reactorex | All tech achievements. |
| 01:14.10 | Reactorex | Dominion Master, etc. |
| 01:14.11 | WhiteBomber | Each tech achievement is gained by getting all upgrades in a certain tree. |
| 01:14.14 | Mozared | So that's all upgrades? |
| 01:14.17 | Reactorex | Yeah. |
| 01:14.18 | Reactorex | Every. |
| 01:14.19 | Mozared | Fair nuff |
| 01:14.21 | WhiteBomber | Well |
| 01:14.22 | Reactorex | Single. |
| 01:14.24 | Reactorex | One. |
| 01:14.29 | WhiteBomber | I think it could be done in two runs of the campaign |
| 01:14.32 | Mozared | Well if you really wanted to |
| 01:14.33 | Mozared | bdjabhj |
| 01:14.35 | Mozared | what he said |
| 01:14.36 | WhiteBomber | Get dominion/base/infantry in one run |
| 01:14.41 | WhiteBomber | And vehicle/starship the other. |
| 01:14.45 | Reactorex | Or do it on brutal. |
| 01:14.47 | Mozared | if you don't get mercenaries |
| 01:14.49 | WhiteBomber | Dominion and base are the smallest. |
| 01:14.50 | Reactorex | XP |
| 01:14.51 | Mozared | you could get a far end |
| 01:14.55 | WhiteBomber | I didn't buy mercenaries this game. |
| 01:14.55 | Mozared | and do you get more money on brutal? |
| 01:14.58 | WhiteBomber | ... But yeah |
| 01:15.07 | wOlfLinG | base has 4 :/ |
| 01:15.16 | WhiteBomber | It would take three playthroughs to get every achievement for the campaign. At least, anyways. |
| 01:15.19 | wOlfLinG | i thought starship or vehicles was 3 |
| 01:15.20 | WhiteBomber | Nah. |
| 01:15.22 | Mozared | most of those are rather cheap though |
| 01:15.23 | Reactorex | Ask that one dude who did it on brutal. |
| 01:15.25 | Reactorex | XD |
| 01:15.30 | Reactorex | Starship? |
| 01:15.32 | Reactorex | Nope. |
| 01:15.35 | WhiteBomber | You don't get anything but achievements for doing it on those difficulties. >_>' |
| 01:15.36 | Mozared | base is all stuff like... multiple SCvs building |
| 01:15.38 | Reactorex | Vehicles and Starship are maxxed out. |
| 01:15.40 | Mozared | which is like what, 60K? |
| 01:15.47 | wOlfLinG | Well, i'm planning on getting every single campaign ach ^^ |
| 01:15.48 | WhiteBomber | People who play on Brutal just want the Kerrigan portrait or are masochists. |
| 01:15.50 | Reactorex | 60K? |
| 01:15.51 | Reactorex | Cheap. |
| 01:15.53 | Reactorex | XD |
| 01:15.56 | Mozared | is it that hard on brutal? |
| 01:16.02 | Reactorex | Kerrigan? |
| 01:16.03 | Mozared | yeah, that's cheap compared to the Thor's immortality protocol |
| 01:16.07 | Reactorex | Is htat Sarah Kerrigan? |
| 01:16.07 | Mozared | which is what, 175K? |
| 01:16.07 | wOlfLinG | I wantz teh kerriganz! >:( |
| 01:16.11 | Reactorex | Or Nova? |
| 01:16.19 | WhiteBomber | Brutal is the Hard AI, isn't it? |
| 01:16.28 | WhiteBomber | Very Hard* |
| 01:16.35 | wOlfLinG | I want the queen of blades more though :/. 1000 wins! Improbable! |
| 01:16.42 | Mozared | I reckon it'd be doable though |
| 01:16.46 | Mozared | I mean, I did it on normal and found it piss easy |
| 01:16.48 | wOlfLinG | Very hard and fastest speed i think |
| 01:16.54 | Mozared | Could probably do it on hard pretty well |
| 01:16.54 | WhiteBomber | Oh |
| 01:17.03 | WhiteBomber | I have this weird bug in my achievements list |
| 01:17.10 | depthsofchaos | 1000 win is like 5 years of gaming :o |
| 01:17.13 | WhiteBomber | I got the bronze medal achievement for Lost Viking |
| 01:17.17 | WhiteBomber | But it's grayed out. |
| 01:17.26 | wOlfLinG | Btw, the Tosh level, where you have that orb thing, cooldown is in gametime, actual defence is in real-time :D |
| 01:17.40 | WhiteBomber | Should it be? >_>' |
| 01:17.45 | goomba_ | 1000 wins could be done in less than a year |
| 01:17.49 | goomba_ | if you avgd 3 wins a day |
| 01:17.51 | goomba_ | which is nothing |
| 01:17.52 | WhiteBomber | (There are two other parts to the achievementâsilver and gold medals.) |
| 01:17.57 | Mozared | What goomba said |
| 01:18.00 | Reactorex | I like the one scene with Swann, "Hope ya' brought credits this time," "This'll solve everything." "I've heard that one before," "It's different this time." "Yeah, I've heard that one, too." |
| 01:18.01 | Mozared | I just calculated that |
| 01:18.03 | Mozared | half a year |
| 01:18.05 | WhiteBomber | The Tosh level is so much easier than the Nova one.. |
| 01:18.05 | Mozared | with 3 wins a day |
| 01:18.12 | depthsofchaos | but i play 1 melee a week :p |
| 01:18.17 | WhiteBomber | I chose purification and Nova the first time. |
| 01:18.18 | Mozared | so do I =P |
| 01:18.20 | WhiteBomber | They were harder. -.-' |
| 01:18.21 | goomba_ | well then that cheev isnt for you :P |
| 01:18.22 | Mozared | We're not meant to get it =P |
| 01:18.24 | Reactorex | GAHHHHHHH |
| 01:18.26 | Reactorex | EVERY |
| 01:18.27 | Reactorex | TIME |
| 01:18.28 | Reactorex | I |
| 01:18.30 | Reactorex | GO |
| 01:18.31 | Reactorex | THERe. |
| 01:18.33 | Reactorex | D: |
| 01:18.34 | Mozared | Every time we touch? |
| 01:18.36 | depthsofchaos | + i loose 99% of the time |
| 01:18.44 | Reactorex | Every time I've gone to the Armory, my comp's crashed. |
| 01:18.45 | Reactorex | >:( |
| 01:18.57 | Mozared | I haven't really had any crashes or bugs |
| 01:18.58 | Reactorex | SIX TIMES IN A ROW. |
| 01:18.59 | WhiteBomber | If you were to win 1000 matches |
| 01:19.00 | Mozared | only one in level... 23 |
| 01:19.05 | Mozared | when my siege tanks turned green with yellow |
| 01:19.06 | WhiteBomber | You'd have to honestly get leet. |
| 01:19.19 | WhiteBomber | 'Cause the system would kick you into gold/platinum... |
| 01:19.23 | Reactorex | Is it 1k 1v1s? |
| 01:19.31 | WhiteBomber | There are two of them. |
| 01:19.35 | Reactorex | Or 1k 2v2s? |
| 01:19.38 | WhiteBomber | 1000 1v1 and 1000 team matches. |
| 01:19.46 | wOlfLinG | 16 ghosts on the purge level of the infestation on haven pwns EVERYTHING! |
| 01:19.52 | Reactorex | Both required to get Kerrigan? |
| 01:19.54 | WhiteBomber | I don't think it separates team matches. |
| 01:19.57 | Reactorex | Queen of Blades. |
| 01:20.01 | WhiteBomber | 2v2 and 4v4 are the same to it, I think. |
| 01:20.04 | wOlfLinG | i lost only 1 town on brutal cause i couldn't take out the overseer in time :/ |
| 01:20.05 | Mozared | You actually used ghosts? |
| 01:20.06 | WhiteBomber | But I haven't looked closely... |
| 01:20.12 | Mozared | Ghosts are like the one unit I NEVER used |
| 01:20.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170) |
| 01:20.17 | WhiteBomber | I used Ghosts for nukes. |
| 01:20.26 | WhiteBomber | I also used them to snipe Kerrigan. |
| 01:20.32 | Mozared | I went mass-infantry at the start levels |
| 01:20.34 | Reactorex | Wolfling, I used viking and science vessels. |
| 01:20.36 | Reactorex | Never lost a unit. |
| 01:20.37 | Vailreth | every fecking patch im getting damn tired of this |
| 01:20.41 | wOlfLinG | Ghosts with the perma-cloak upgrade are awesome |
| 01:20.44 | Mozared | later mass-infantry with mech |
| 01:20.45 | WhiteBomber | Nukes are VERY cost efficient. |
| 01:20.52 | Mozared | then mass mech, then mass all-air-units |
| 01:20.53 | WhiteBomber | Let me repeat: VERY cost efficient. |
| 01:20.57 | WhiteBomber | Though |
| 01:21.00 | Reactorex | What, vailreth? |
| 01:21.04 | WhiteBomber | I think I like the Specters more. |
| 01:21.08 | goomba_ | sci vessels were so good :> |
| 01:21.20 | Reactorex | Hell yeah. |
| 01:21.20 | Mozared | Science vessels + any combination of air units = win |
| 01:21.25 | Reactorex | 2 science vessels, 9 battle cruisers... |
| 01:21.28 | Reactorex | You're set for ANYTHING. |
| 01:21.29 | Vailreth | after every patch i have to go to my firewall and redo the permisissons for starcraft 2 and the editor |
| 01:21.32 | AsaPhelps | anyone know how to make it so you only play the first part of a model animation |
| 01:21.39 | WhiteBomber | Except Kerrigan. |
| 01:21.42 | WhiteBomber | No wait |
| 01:21.47 | WhiteBomber | She'd kill two, but still die. |
| 01:21.50 | Mozared | Mass yamato cannon ftw |
| 01:21.58 | Reactorex | >:3 |
| 01:22.01 | Reactorex | PEW PEW. |
| 01:22.02 | AsaPhelps | i used ghosts on that odin mission |
| 01:22.06 | WhiteBomber | Kerrigan is beast on that last level. >_>' |
| 01:22.10 | AsaPhelps | because they had 0 detection |
| 01:22.11 | Reactorex | Less QQ, moar pew pew. |
| 01:22.14 | Mozared | She was... annoying there |
| 01:22.18 | WhiteBomber | Killed a total of four of my BCs with her one-hit-kill ability... |
| 01:22.20 | Reactorex | HUSH. I haven't finished hte last level D: |
| 01:22.23 | Reactorex | I can't get to it. |
| 01:22.25 | WhiteBomber | I know, I know... |
| 01:22.26 | Reactorex | My comp keeps crashing. |
| 01:22.27 | Mozared | killed like my 3 front most siege tanks EVERY assault |
| 01:22.29 | Mozared | so annoying |
| 01:22.30 | Reactorex | D: |
| 01:22.33 | AsaPhelps | i can't believe kerrigan was raynor's mother |
| 01:22.33 | Reactorex | NNUUUUUU |
| 01:22.36 | WhiteBomber | That Mac bug SUCKS. |
| 01:22.40 | wOlfLinG | I had to power down that ability for my map D: |
| 01:22.41 | Mozared | aye Asa, that was a shocker |
| 01:22.49 | Reactorex | WB, cmere. |
| 01:22.50 | WhiteBomber | Asa... Isn't she younger? |
| 01:22.51 | wOlfLinG | Killing another hero with 1 hit... Not good -.- |
| 01:23.00 | AsaPhelps | now you would think that |
| 01:23.06 | WhiteBomber | No, really |
| 01:23.17 | WhiteBomber | Didn't it say that in the Starcraft handbook that came with your boxed copy? |
| 01:23.21 | WhiteBomber | I mean SC1, that is. |
| 01:23.34 | AsaPhelps | anyway, i have a model animation i want to use but its like 10s long and I want to repeat the first 1s, anyone have a suggestion? |
| 01:23.42 | slightlyrandom | So, do we still have to localize the maps using Hati's excellent tool? |
| 01:23.48 | AsaPhelps | was kerrigan a redhead in sc1? |
| 01:23.49 | slightlyrandom | Or does the editor handle it for us |
| 01:23.52 | slightlyrandom | Yes AsaPhelps |
| 01:23.55 | WhiteBomber | I think so. |
| 01:24.01 | WhiteBomber | Kerrigan is a redhead. |
| 01:24.06 | goomba_ | slightlyrandom |
| 01:24.12 | WhiteBomber | One thing confuses me, but I won't discuss it because it's a spoiler. >_>' |
| 01:24.13 | AsaPhelps | i wonder if her curtains match the drapes |
| 01:24.20 | goomba_ | wanna hear what me and mozared have worked out for the campaign so far :> |
| 01:24.22 | WhiteBomber | Pervert. |
| 01:24.36 | slightlyrandom | I wanna hear whether I need to localize this thingie |
| 01:24.45 | slightlyrandom | Once I get that cleared up, I can focus on other stuff |
| 01:24.45 | Mozared | I wonder if she HAS drapes tbh |
| 01:24.55 | Mozared | where are you from Slightly? |
| 01:24.57 | Mozared | America? |
| 01:25.01 | slightlyrandom | Nopes |
| 01:25.07 | Mozared | Europe? |
| 01:25.09 | WhiteBomber | ~seen what it looks like when twenty-four Reapers throw detonation charges |
| 01:25.10 | purl | i haven't seen 'what it looks like when twenty-four reapers throw detonation charges', WhiteBomber |
| 01:25.11 | slightlyrandom | Indeeedy |
| 01:25.23 | Mozared | Ok, then you can't send me your map so I could see if it needed to be localized =P |
| 01:25.25 | WhiteBomber | I'll tell you what it's like, Purl. It's GLORIOUS. |
| 01:25.40 | slightlyrandom | Instagib buildings |
| 01:25.43 | WhiteBomber | But not nearly as awesome as dropping nine fully upgraded Thors in the enemy base. |
| 01:25.53 | slightlyrandom | Seen LZgamers Reaper matches ? |
| 01:25.53 | WhiteBomber | With those gigantic transports. |
| 01:26.00 | Reactorex | >:3 |
| 01:26.08 | slightlyrandom | Where he raped 3 zergs in a row |
| 01:26.14 | Mozared | I went for the doggies instead |
| 01:26.17 | Mozared | Horrible choice |
| 01:26.20 | AsaPhelps | those transports are insane |
| 01:26.34 | WhiteBomber | There is nothing better than "dispensing righteous fury" on your enemies with Thors. |
| 01:26.41 | Mozared | ... |
| 01:26.44 | Mozared | doing it with tanks? |
| 01:26.49 | AsaPhelps | what about with marines |
| 01:26.51 | wOlfLinG | Btw, *SPOILER ALERT* Why did kerrigan keep her zergish hair at the end? Unless she is still part zerg :O |
| 01:26.57 | AsaPhelps | omg spoiler |
| 01:27.00 | AsaPhelps | MY EYES |
| 01:27.03 | slightlyrandom | Seriously Colossus is the proper smackdown unit |
| 01:27.03 | WhiteBomber | Tanks can't wipe out Mutalisks like they don't exist. |
| 01:27.11 | WhiteBomber | And they're BL food. |
| 01:27.20 | WhiteBomber | That's what I was going to ask... |
| 01:27.24 | WhiteBomber | But don't ask it again. >_>' |
| 01:27.27 | WhiteBomber | It's spoilerish. |
| 01:27.34 | WhiteBomber | ~seen the ending |
| 01:27.35 | purl | i haven't seen 'the ending', WhiteBomber |
| 01:27.43 | WhiteBomber | ~seen the patch notes |
| 01:27.44 | purl | WhiteBomber: i haven't seen 'the patch notes' |
| 01:27.46 | wOlfLinG | Well purls a bot >:( |
| 01:27.51 | AsaPhelps | the patch notes are up |
| 01:27.55 | slightlyrandom | I haven't seen the ending |
| 01:27.56 | Mozared | how dare you talk to purl that way =( |
| 01:28.05 | Mozared | the ending is epic |
| 01:28.05 | WhiteBomber | ~seen the popularity list lately |
| 01:28.05 | purl | WhiteBomber: i haven't seen 'the popularity list lately' |
| 01:28.07 | wOlfLinG | :O link to patch notes plz? |
| 01:28.07 | slightlyrandom | But I must say, it doesn't come as a huge surprise |
| 01:28.17 | Mozared | every level in the campaign |
| 01:28.20 | Mozared | is more epic than the one before it |
| 01:28.22 | AsaPhelps | i have like 3 missions left |
| 01:28.25 | Mozared | and the first one is already pretty epic |
| 01:28.27 | AsaPhelps | but now i have no reason to finish :( |
| 01:28.28 | goomba_ | i totally predicted it |
| 01:28.34 | goomba_ | for the wrong reasons but |
| 01:28.35 | WhiteBomber | ~seen every character conversation in the campaign |
| 01:28.36 | purl | i haven't seen 'every character conversation in the campaign', WhiteBomber |
| 01:28.38 | goomba_ | i did nonehteless |
| 01:28.39 | Mozared | Last 3 missions are the most awesome one |
| 01:28.43 | Reactorex | NOOOOO |
| 01:28.45 | Reactorex | NOT AGAIN D: |
| 01:28.46 | *** part/#sc2mapster slightlyrandom (~random@port451.ds1-ba.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 01:28.46 | WhiteBomber | I made a mistake when I first played the campaign. >_>' |
| 01:28.52 | Reactorex | I can't go in the Armory without my computer crashing. |
| 01:28.55 | Mozared | You used a cheat? |
| 01:28.57 | Reactorex | That makes eight times in a row now. >:( |
| 01:28.59 | Mozared | oh |
| 01:29.02 | AsaPhelps | but the armory has all the good upgrades |
| 01:29.06 | WhiteBomber | I finished the Tosh/Hanson mission branches too soon. |
| 01:29.14 | WhiteBomber | Meaning they didn't get to stay in my group as long as possible. |
| 01:29.20 | WhiteBomber | Thus, I didn't see every bit of conversation. |
| 01:29.22 | AsaPhelps | i killed the black guy as soon as I could |
| 01:29.26 | WhiteBomber | Lol. |
| 01:29.27 | Mozared | =') |
| 01:29.31 | Mozared | You're trolling Asa |
| 01:29.31 | WhiteBomber | That's what I did... |
| 01:29.38 | AsaPhelps | no actually i did but it was ona ccident |
| 01:29.55 | AsaPhelps | so i have to do campaign all over for the maps i missed |
| 01:30.02 | goomba_ | nova was cute |
| 01:30.02 | WhiteBomber | Do you mean you died by accident on the Tosh mission, or you beat Nova's ASAP? |
| 01:30.04 | goomba_ | it was tempting |
| 01:30.07 | AsaPhelps | she was cute |
| 01:30.09 | AsaPhelps | thats why I chose her |
| 01:30.21 | WhiteBomber | But wait |
| 01:30.22 | goomba_ | but tosh was such a nice fellow ^_____________^ |
| 01:30.26 | WhiteBomber | WHO WAS THAT DYING MARINE!? |
| 01:30.29 | Mozared | I just wanted to make 'the right choice' |
| 01:30.30 | RedWraith | ugh |
| 01:30.32 | Reactorex | I say, Tosh looked so much like a freaking PRotoss. |
| 01:30.34 | Reactorex | AND YAEH. |
| 01:30.34 | RedWraith | I just looked for cardcraft |
| 01:30.37 | WhiteBomber | Y'know, the one Tosh played with. |
| 01:30.38 | RedWraith | and I couldn't find it |
| 01:30.39 | AsaPhelps | wasn't that marine tydus? |
| 01:30.39 | Mozared | but I feel more like choosing Tosh is 'the right choice' |
| 01:30.39 | RedWraith | sadface |
| 01:30.41 | Mozared | now that I tried 'm both |
| 01:30.45 | Reactorex | I WANT TO KNOW WHO TAHT MARINE WAS. |
| 01:30.46 | WhiteBomber | It obviously wasn't Tychus. |
| 01:30.54 | Mozared | Aye! I was wondering about that |
| 01:30.58 | WhiteBomber | Tychus wouldn't scream like a panzy. |
| 01:31.03 | Mozared | That marine the voodoo dollw orked on was DEFINITELY tychus |
| 01:31.07 | Mozared | but he was a-ok afterwards |
| 01:31.09 | Mozared | so I was confused |
| 01:31.11 | Reactorex | And he would be dead afterwards. |
| 01:31.11 | s3rius | it was tychus, |
| 01:31.14 | AsaPhelps | they have medics |
| 01:31.16 | s3rius | I think it was a comedic interlude |
| 01:31.18 | Reactorex | But he wasn't. |
| 01:31.19 | AsaPhelps | also what bothers me |
| 01:31.22 | AsaPhelps | how does he pee in that suit |
| 01:31.25 | goomba_ | i dont remember that part at all |
| 01:31.28 | s3rius | they wanted to show Tosh's "voodoo" powers |
| 01:31.30 | AsaPhelps | since its welded together |
| 01:31.35 | Mozared | what do you think he shoots, Asa? |
| 01:31.35 | WhiteBomber | A better question, Asa |
| 01:31.35 | goomba_ | excretion management systems |
| 01:31.38 | WhiteBomber | How did he do it in the Odin? |
| 01:31.40 | Reactorex | AsaPhelps, seen him grab that one piece? |
| 01:31.50 | AsaPhelps | one piece? |
| 01:31.59 | WhiteBomber | The groin guard. |
| 01:32.03 | Reactorex | Grabs it and pulls it up during one of the scenes. |
| 01:32.05 | Reactorex | XD |
| 01:32.08 | AsaPhelps | must've missed it |
| 01:32.11 | AsaPhelps | SPOILED |
| 01:32.14 | s3rius | nice euphemisms |
| 01:32.15 | WhiteBomber | It was subtle. |
| 01:32.17 | Reactorex | When Matt questions him being there. |
| 01:32.27 | AsaPhelps | i'll have to watch it again |
| 01:32.30 | s3rius | t'was when Horner said he doesn't want tyhcus to be there |
| 01:32.35 | AsaPhelps | also that thor construction animation, is that a model? |
| 01:32.39 | s3rius | yea |
| 01:32.41 | Reactorex | Exact;y/ |
| 01:32.42 | WhiteBomber | It looked like it. |
| 01:32.44 | Reactorex | Dude, s3rius. |
| 01:32.50 | Reactorex | On my copm, it looks like you said Homer. |
| 01:32.52 | Reactorex | XD |
| 01:32.54 | WhiteBomber | It was an in-game cutscene. |
| 01:32.59 | WhiteBomber | Everything there is probably in the editor. |
| 01:33.02 | Mozared | ... D'oh? |
| 01:33.04 | s3rius | lol |
| 01:33.09 | AsaPhelps | i need ideas for my jukebox hero |
| 01:33.12 | goomba_ | when the odin self-constructed? |
| 01:33.16 | goomba_ | its a combination of 4 models |
| 01:33.17 | AsaPhelps | yes goomba |
| 01:33.20 | Reactorex | SAPHELOPS |
| 01:33.20 | AsaPhelps | 4, ugh |
| 01:33.22 | goomba_ | they were in the beta files |
| 01:33.23 | goomba_ | actually |
| 01:33.24 | goomba_ | :P |
| 01:33.28 | Reactorex | ASAPHELPS. |
| 01:33.30 | Reactorex | I HAVE SOME. |
| 01:33.31 | Reactorex | XD |
| 01:33.33 | goomba_ | just no textures, so you couldnt use em |
| 01:33.36 | WhiteBomber | Oh |
| 01:33.37 | AsaPhelps | DO YOU |
| 01:33.39 | Reactorex | MELODY OF DISCHORDS. |
| 01:33.41 | Reactorex | DISCHORD |
| 01:33.44 | WhiteBomber | Did anyone manage to get a really high score in Lost Viking? |
| 01:33.47 | AsaPhelps | I have an aoe dance ability |
| 01:33.51 | Mozared | I died to the first boss |
| 01:33.52 | Reactorex | I got like... |
| 01:33.53 | AsaPhelps | causes nearby enemies to burst into dance |
| 01:33.55 | Reactorex | 200,000. |
| 01:33.56 | goomba_ | i spoiled myself on a few things lookin through the hidden files |
| 01:33.56 | Mozared | couldn't be arsed after that |
| 01:34.01 | WhiteBomber | I died to the first boss A LOT |
| 01:34.08 | AsaPhelps | what was the first boss |
| 01:34.10 | Reactorex | Mozared: |
| 01:34.12 | Reactorex | Use WAD |
| 01:34.12 | AsaPhelps | oh that |
| 01:34.13 | WhiteBomber | Until I realized I could spasm on the space bar and use WASD movement. |
| 01:34.15 | AsaPhelps | i just cheated |
| 01:34.18 | Reactorex | WASD |
| 01:34.19 | AsaPhelps | terribleterribledamage |
| 01:34.21 | Reactorex | ASaphelps |
| 01:34.22 | Reactorex | It wjas a carrioer |
| 01:34.27 | AsaPhelps | reactor |
| 01:34.29 | Reactorex | Dude. |
| 01:34.29 | AsaPhelps | CALM DOWN SIR |
| 01:34.29 | WhiteBomber | I didn't know there were any cheats in the campaign. |
| 01:34.30 | Mozared | uh? |
| 01:34.35 | Mozared | What's the benefit of using WASD? |
| 01:34.37 | Reactorex | Phelops. |
| 01:34.39 | Reactorex | There's things for completing it. |
| 01:34.39 | Mozared | over arrow keys anyway |
| 01:34.42 | WhiteBomber | It lets you use your right hand on the space bar. |
| 01:34.44 | Reactorex | You can get achievements. |
| 01:34.50 | Reactorex | The comp's screwing up. |
| 01:34.53 | AsaPhelps | but i was bad at it |
| 01:34.55 | AsaPhelps | so i cheated |
| 01:34.56 | WhiteBomber | If you're right handed, your right hand probably taps faster. |
| 01:34.56 | Mozared | Well, I've got two hands? |
| 01:34.59 | Reactorex | So my typing's going all weird. |
| 01:35.01 | Reactorex | I can't see my mistakes as I'm typing it. |
| 01:35.02 | AsaPhelps | also why do plasma missiles suck |
| 01:35.05 | Mozared | I can mash space with one and fly with the other =P |
| 01:35.06 | AsaPhelps | i liked the other ones way better |
| 01:35.10 | WhiteBomber | And for longer periods of time. >_>' |
| 01:35.17 | AsaPhelps | i just held down space |
| 01:35.20 | Reactorex | Mozared, jsut try it. |
| 01:35.21 | WhiteBomber | Eh. |
| 01:35.23 | Reactorex | xD |
| 01:35.24 | Reactorex | I found it easier. |
| 01:35.26 | Mozared | I am left handed tho |
| 01:35.29 | Reactorex | I lived longer using WASD over arrow keys. |
| 01:35.30 | WhiteBomber | Plasma Missiles were stronger. |
| 01:35.36 | Reactorex | IT's worth a try. >:3 |
| 01:35.40 | WhiteBomber | But level 2 Side Missiles were better in general. |
| 01:35.43 | Mozared | true, if I get around to it again |
| 01:35.45 | WhiteBomber | They let you kill FAR more enemies. |
| 01:35.45 | Mozared | atm I'm stuck on char |
| 01:35.50 | Reactorex | It's always ther :P |
| 01:35.52 | Reactorex | FFF |
| 01:35.54 | AsaPhelps | isn't there an achievement to get 500k points |
| 01:35.56 | Reactorex | I can't get to Char |
| 01:35.56 | WhiteBomber | Just finish Char |
| 01:36.00 | Reactorex | D: |
| 01:36.01 | Reactorex | I'ts my next level. |
| 01:36.04 | Reactorex | My SC2 won't let me get to Armory. |
| 01:36.12 | Reactorex | I NEED TO GET TO THE CONSOLE BEFORE I LEAVE TO CHAR D: |
| 01:36.12 | WhiteBomber | Did you finish everything else first? |
| 01:36.16 | WhiteBomber | Reactorex |
| 01:36.20 | Reactorex | YESSS. |
| 01:36.21 | WhiteBomber | There's an armory on Char. :P |
| 01:36.23 | Reactorex | Everything else. |
| 01:36.25 | Reactorex | Is done. |
| 01:36.26 | WhiteBomber | And a laboratory. |
| 01:36.33 | Reactorex | I CAN'T GO IN. |
| 01:36.34 | Reactorex | T)T |
| 01:36.34 | WhiteBomber | Sort of. |
| 01:36.37 | Reactorex | Come in here. |
| 01:36.39 | Reactorex | Nao. |
| 01:36.41 | WhiteBomber | You still need to talk to everyone first. |
| 01:36.45 | AsaPhelps | whats the name of that phoenix flame animation you get for getting an extra life? |
| 01:38.50 | AsaPhelps | wow did that kill chat |
| 01:39.04 | Mozared | Haha, true |
| 01:39.07 | Mozared | I'm about to head off anyway tho |
| 01:39.18 | AsaPhelps | i'll beat campaign since i know the ending anyway |
| 01:39.35 | Mozared | Aye |
| 01:39.41 | Mozared | Want to finish the mission I was replaying |
| 01:39.45 | Mozared | and then watch more House |
| 01:40.55 | Mozared | Night then folks |
| 01:41.00 | Mozared | And let me try that fancy /exit thing |
| 01:43.30 | Kakera | Whoa, the second mission on brutal has a siege tank. Didn't see that one coming. |
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| 01:44.58 | Kakera | Guess it's a preview of what's to come on later missions. |
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| 02:08.58 | slightlyrandom | Oooh, nice |
| 02:09.23 | slightlyrandom | I uploaded Cube TD as Cube Defense, and it is controlled by Arice |
| 02:10.02 | tehwalrus | you overrode someone elses map? |
| 02:10.29 | slightlyrandom | No, he overwrote mine |
| 02:10.50 | slightlyrandom | Got some weird lobby behaviour, too |
| 02:10.56 | tehwalrus | well, thats a bad bug either way |
| 02:11.25 | slightlyrandom | He published the map first |
| 02:11.32 | slightlyrandom | Which is alright |
| 02:11.42 | slightlyrandom | I just want to be able to update the bloody thing |
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| 02:12.43 | onetwo | lol iskatasuemsks voice is awesome |
| 02:12.54 | onetwo | i was gonna post "This reminds me of when I was a young boy." to his video |
| 02:13.02 | onetwo | but it has to be approved :( |
| 02:13.02 | slightlyrandom | Make more sense |
| 02:13.27 | slightlyrandom | "And then this one time, the guy did this thing with the item" |
| 02:13.31 | slightlyrandom | "It was HILARIOUS!" |
| 02:14.08 | tehwalrus | i keep forgetting to disable my testing triggers when I publish : ( |
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| 02:14.43 | Technomancer | hi, so who's in the now? |
| 02:16.52 | goomba_ | me |
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| 02:17.58 | tehwalrus | anyone up for a round of zergling broods? |
| 02:18.44 | wOlfLinG | So how do i make a drop-pod? |
| 02:19.49 | slightlyrandom | "Not enough space remains on this account" |
| 02:19.56 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 02:19.56 | slightlyrandom | This is strange |
| 02:20.07 | onetwo | man |
| 02:20.08 | slightlyrandom | I have 0/5 maps, 0/21 mb used |
| 02:20.22 | onetwo | my videos went up 18000 views today |
| 02:20.26 | onetwo | nearly a 5th of my entire views |
| 02:20.31 | onetwo | since beta mapping began |
| 02:20.38 | onetwo | sc2 release has exploded my viewers |
| 02:20.40 | Saeris | damn onetwo |
| 02:20.50 | onetwo | ridiculous amount of new people |
| 02:20.55 | onetwo | i didnt realize itd be such a large change |
| 02:21.06 | Saeris | i need to record a video of my map this weekend |
| 02:21.21 | goomba_ | grats lol |
| 02:21.26 | tehwalrus | what videoes do you have onetwo? tutorials? |
| 02:21.36 | Saeris | gonna get to work now on writing down all the new combo golems |
| 02:21.44 | Saeris | i have 144 golems to make >.< |
| 02:21.52 | tehwalrus | ... wow |
| 02:22.00 | tehwalrus | thats a time sink |
| 02:22.04 | Saeris | yea |
| 02:22.17 | Saeris | glad i'm done with the campaign now, no spoilers while doing it |
| 02:22.23 | tehwalrus | you're the golem wars editor? |
| 02:22.26 | Saeris | yea |
| 02:22.39 | tehwalrus | are you gonna reskin the base units so they look like golems? |
| 02:22.46 | Saeris | no |
| 02:23.00 | Saeris | that was never my intention |
| 02:23.20 | tehwalrus | lol, okay |
| 02:23.33 | tehwalrus | i played it and thought "these dont look like golems" |
| 02:23.50 | tehwalrus | except for the one using the strider model |
| 02:24.12 | slightlyrandom | So |
| 02:24.30 | slightlyrandom | Anyone else run into "Not enough space on this account" when publishing maps ? |
| 02:24.35 | Saeris | the original never changed the unit models, and my map is a remake of the original |
| 02:24.42 | Saeris | so i don't plan on changing the format |
| 02:24.49 | Saeris | sorry, can't say i have |
| 02:25.23 | Saeris | actually, before i get started on this, i need to go buy some new reading glasses >.< |
| 02:25.26 | Saeris | mine broke this week |
| 02:26.07 | tehwalrus | could i suggest you turn the countdown for the map something less than 30 seconds? |
| 02:26.20 | slightlyrandom | That's a good idea |
| 02:26.33 | slightlyrandom | "Lobby Delay" |
| 02:26.37 | slightlyrandom | Set to something low, or 0 |
| 02:26.50 | slightlyrandom | Now why the hell can't I publish this fucker |
| 02:27.48 | slightlyrandom | fuckers |
| 02:28.56 | tehwalrus | also Saeris, did you intentionally take patrol off the unit selector so that I couldn't make equal numbers of sword and rifle golems? |
| 02:29.17 | Dogmai | @ onetwo i love your videos mate |
| 02:29.26 | Dogmai | its obvious why the hit count has exploded |
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| 02:30.24 | onetwo | thx dogmai |
| 02:30.31 | onetwo | well i dont mind that |
| 02:30.37 | Dogmai | I always wanted to make videos, but my voice sucks |
| 02:30.39 | onetwo | but i respodn to every comment and message |
| 02:30.40 | Dogmai | At least you sound awesome |
| 02:30.41 | onetwo | respond* |
| 02:30.43 | onetwo | and now |
| 02:30.46 | onetwo | its 30 emails every 6 hours |
| 02:30.49 | onetwo | to respond to |
| 02:30.50 | Dogmai | ha |
| 02:30.56 | onetwo | i need to do more tutorials |
| 02:30.58 | onetwo | about things so people |
| 02:31.02 | onetwo | dont have to ask me |
| 02:31.09 | onetwo | i think ill do a zombie tutorial tonight |
| 02:31.10 | Dogmai | dialogs |
| 02:31.12 | Dogmai | custom UI |
| 02:31.17 | onetwo | how to make a bunch of AI zombies attack you |
| 02:31.19 | onetwo | and your team |
| 02:31.21 | onetwo | hmm yeah |
| 02:31.24 | onetwo | that too one day |
| 02:31.35 | Dogmai | that is what i am working on atm |
| 02:31.44 | Dogmai | its pretty easy coming from wc3 |
| 02:32.29 | Dogmai | what do you get asked most about |
| 02:32.44 | slightlyrandom | "omg, my map is broken, please help" |
| 02:33.11 | Dogmai | ha |
| 02:33.18 | Dogmai | well if you keep testing it |
| 02:33.23 | Dogmai | then it breaks |
| 02:33.30 | slightlyrandom | ^^ |
| 02:33.31 | Dogmai | its obvious its the last thing you did |
| 02:33.37 | onetwo | you wouldnt believe how many people came from sc1 |
| 02:33.38 | Dogmai | bit of common sense |
| 02:33.40 | slightlyrandom | My editor is broken and won't publish |
| 02:33.42 | onetwo | if htey came from war3 they would have 0 questions |
| 02:33.44 | slightlyrandom | That's whats wrong |
| 02:33.48 | Dogmai | yea |
| 02:33.56 | onetwo | mostly related to pick each unit in unit group |
| 02:33.57 | onetwo | that action |
| 02:33.59 | onetwo | is a godsend |
| 02:34.01 | onetwo | and people dont know about it |
| 02:34.06 | Dogmai | lol |
| 02:34.10 | Dogmai | mate, srsly |
| 02:34.14 | Dogmai | this editor is bloody amazing |
| 02:34.18 | Dogmai | a few quirks i dont like |
| 02:34.24 | Dogmai | but its bloody powerful compared to wc3 |
| 02:35.15 | Dogmai | you could tell them to read up on some of the wc3 documentation |
| 02:35.26 | Dogmai | because if you know the basics of wc3 scripting |
| 02:35.32 | Dogmai | then the basics of sc2 scripting is the same |
| 02:35.38 | Dogmai | its the more advance options that have changed |
| 02:36.09 | onetwo | yeah |
| 02:36.12 | onetwo | so awesome |
| 02:36.31 | onetwo | Lylirra: No current plans, but we're aware that there are concerns regarding the current limits for publishing and sharing player-made maps. The feedback we've received so far is good, and we're keeping a very close eye on how the system is being used. This in turn will help us determine how best to accommodate our players and the mapmaking community-at-large. |
| 02:36.32 | onetwo | nice |
| 02:36.43 | Dogmai | one thing i would like is that it doesn't minimize when you test a map |
| 02:36.58 | onetwo | lol the editor+game maxes my 2 gigs of rams |
| 02:36.58 | Dogmai | and an easy way to add the minimap to a dialog |
| 02:37.00 | onetwo | kind of scary |
| 02:37.19 | Dogmai | im on a 2.4gig single core amd |
| 02:37.21 | Dogmai | =\ |
| 02:37.28 | Technomancer | first off, is it just me or does NO ONE ELSE have the firebat in map editor? Did blizzard not say they would keep firebats in the editor? |
| 02:37.29 | slightlyrandom | Can you have the Loading bars on a custom loading screen ? |
| 02:37.43 | slightlyrandom | Technomancer: Add the campaign dependencies |
| 02:37.58 | Technomancer | how? |
| 02:38.10 | Lilianna | File Dependencies |
| 02:38.12 | Technomancer | sorry there's no help guide I could find |
| 02:38.13 | Technomancer | ah |
| 02:38.18 | Lilianna | or make a new map, there should be a dependencies button |
| 02:39.14 | Technomancer | I see Liberty and Liberty Multi |
| 02:39.19 | Technomancer | tried Liberty, still no firebat |
| 02:40.09 | goomba_ | im going to put giant rockets on this troop transport model |
| 02:40.09 | Fromethius | technomancer |
| 02:40.14 | Fromethius | just put story at the top of the list of dependencies |
| 02:40.15 | goomba_ | and its going to be awesome |
| 02:40.18 | Fromethius | problem solved wooh |
| 02:40.59 | Lilianna | there should be four dependency libraries |
| 02:41.05 | Technomancer | is there a help guide or wiki? the link doesnt work |
| 02:41.07 | Lilianna | you have two, Liberty and Liberty Multi |
| 02:41.12 | Lilianna | you need to add the Campaign ones |
| 02:41.16 | Technomancer | I see it now |
| 02:41.17 | Lilianna | the Story ones is just story mode models |
| 02:41.20 | Technomancer | yeah yeah I got it |
| 02:41.26 | Lilianna | they are the high res stuff |
| 02:41.29 | Lilianna | that have no normal anims |
| 02:41.39 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/blood-bath-remake/. Blood Bath. apriores (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 02:41.44 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/ltw/. Line Tower Wars. Sevenation (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 02:41.48 | Fromethius | make sure to have it first on the list though |
| 02:41.58 | Technomancer | It worked |
| 02:42.05 | goomba_ | what unit has really fucking awesome rockets |
| 02:42.11 | Fromethius | goomba_ |
| 02:42.15 | Technomancer | The planetary fortress? :P |
| 02:42.16 | goomba_ | sup |
| 02:42.36 | Fromethius | loki's missile barrage |
| 02:42.41 | Lilianna | the best rockets are Flying Tycus' |
| 02:42.50 | goomba_ | i mean |
| 02:42.57 | goomba_ | not rockets like a missile |
| 02:43.01 | goomba_ | more of a propulsion system |
| 02:43.11 | Fromethius | did you look at loki's missile barrage? |
| 02:43.17 | goomba_ | no but i can xD |
| 02:43.24 | Fromethius | probably just what you are looking for |
| 02:44.38 | goomba_ | while model |
| 02:44.39 | goomba_ | which |
| 02:44.45 | goomba_ | all its animations are separate |
| 02:46.01 | goomba_ | armageddon launch? |
| 02:46.07 | goomba_ | cannon |
| 02:46.49 | Technomancer | okay I do have a real question now |
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| 02:47.38 | Technomancer | I changed the particle effect for the Marauder from the grenades to the prismatic beam of the void ray, and I see the ray, but the marauders dont make the animation like they're firing, it just comes out their torso as they stand there |
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| 02:52.39 | Technomancer | no answer? ;_; |
| 02:53.07 | wOlfLinG | So, how do i create a drop-pod to drop some units? |
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| 02:53.41 | DeadLeaves | Anyone online? |
| 02:53.52 | DeadLeaves | or rather, awake. |
| 02:53.55 | wOlfLinG | me |
| 02:54.02 | goomba_ | hi |
| 02:54.07 | wOlfLinG | Trying to find a drop pod tutorial :( |
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| 02:54.22 | DeadLeaves | Anyone could give me a little hint for the trigger editor? |
| 02:54.42 | goomba_ | its possible |
| 02:54.49 | DeadLeaves | It whines when I try to use this linke "SetVariable(up, false);" for my global variable "up" |
| 02:55.29 | DeadLeaves | And that god damn compilator refuses to tell me what is actually wrong. |
| 02:56.17 | onetwo | hey is the maker of the Left 4 Dead map in this channel |
| 02:56.59 | DeadLeaves | Anyone has a clue what the problem might be? |
| 02:57.51 | onetwo | k |
| 02:57.56 | onetwo | well the left 4 dead map was pretty bad |
| 02:58.08 | onetwo | incase anyone wants to know |
| 02:58.20 | DeadLeaves | Fuck me! I messed up. I though ctrl + d made me look at things as if they were scripts instead of gui shit. but no. |
| 02:58.30 | DeadLeaves | you use gv_up = false; |
| 02:59.01 | AsaPhelps | some people have that problem techno |
| 02:59.01 | goomba_ | jeez why does this model have its textures in separate mpqs |
| 03:00.05 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:00.20 | DeadLeaves | The code editor really needs so reworking, basic indenting doesn't work as you'd expect it. |
| 03:00.24 | Fromethius | goomba_ it's the loki's first ability |
| 03:00.31 | Fromethius | i think |
| 03:00.45 | Technomancer | Alt+F4 |
| 03:01.43 | DeadLeaves | Dude, thanks for that. That was the solution I was looking for in the pice of crap. |
| 03:01.55 | DeadLeaves | I was looking for the exit button for hours. |
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| 03:02.21 | DeadLeaves | Can you use switch case? |
| 03:04.25 | Technomancer | lol |
| 03:04.28 | Technomancer | alt+f4 |
| 03:05.43 | Technomancer | Question: I changed the particle effect for the Marauder from the grenades to the prismatic beam of the void ray, and I see the ray, but the marauders dont make the animation like they're firing, it just comes out their torso as they stand there |
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| 03:07.08 | onetwo | actor events i think |
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| 03:08.57 | Fromethius | technomancer that's funny |
| 03:09.05 | Fromethius | i just made my units an attack animation |
| 03:09.11 | Technomancer | did you guys use it alot in the beta phase? its amazing some know this much already about its mechanics... I find it not very user family |
| 03:09.14 | Technomancer | oh? |
| 03:09.18 | Fromethius | want me to teach you |
| 03:09.20 | Technomancer | how? TELL ME NAO! |
| 03:09.34 | Fromethius | ok so you go to the actor for the unit and then go to events - events |
| 03:09.37 | Fromethius | tell me when you get that far |
| 03:10.57 | Technomancer | Sorry Im a noob where it comes to SC2 editor |
| 03:11.13 | Technomancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.13 | Fromethius | need further explanation? |
| 03:11.17 | Fromethius | yeah |
| 03:11.19 | Technomancer | well I see the actors dropdown |
| 03:11.23 | Technomancer | but where's events-events? |
| 03:11.23 | Fromethius | then search for marauder |
| 03:11.30 | Fromethius | find it and click it |
| 03:11.44 | Mindful` | so |
| 03:11.46 | Technomancer | right |
| 03:11.47 | Mindful` | after hours of experimenting |
| 03:11.49 | Mindful` | i have realized |
| 03:11.58 | Fromethius | alright now you see Events - Events+ on the list of fields? |
| 03:12.04 | Mindful` | that my game causes a critical error whenever it loads as long as this specific unit has an Effect - Target type ability |
| 03:12.15 | Mindful` | it's reasonably annoying |
| 03:12.31 | Fromethius | only reasonably well that's not too bad i guess |
| 03:12.35 | Fromethius | xp |
| 03:12.35 | Technomancer | I do not |
| 03:12.43 | Fromethius | ok technomancer |
| 03:12.51 | Fromethius | do me a favor and start using the pro way of data editing |
| 03:12.57 | Technomancer | all the Fields say begin with CActor_ |
| 03:12.59 | Fromethius | see those 5 buttons at the top |
| 03:13.02 | Fromethius | click all of them |
| 03:13.12 | Technomancer | ahhh |
| 03:13.15 | Fromethius | show table view, show default, etc. |
| 03:13.19 | Technomancer | I wasnt able to see the mose over |
| 03:13.26 | Technomancer | well for me the mouse over doesnt show |
| 03:13.31 | Technomancer | its weird that way on some things |
| 03:13.32 | Technomancer | anyway |
| 03:13.33 | Technomancer | yes |
| 03:13.35 | Technomancer | one sec |
| 03:13.53 | Mindful` | but in all seriousness |
| 03:14.00 | Mindful` | does anyone have even the faintest idea what could cause something like this?} |
| 03:14.07 | Mindful` | i'd really like to be able to add abilities to this unit >.> |
| 03:14.10 | Fromethius | mindful i am having problems like that too |
| 03:14.14 | Fromethius | with the game release |
| 03:14.29 | Fromethius | i have random abiltiies show up on my unit that i cannot remove because they're not on the command card in the DE |
| 03:14.45 | Fromethius | what i found that works is by duplicating the ability, renaming the ID, and rereferencing everything to that new ability |
| 03:14.49 | Technomancer | Fromethius: would it be under "Field" column? |
| 03:14.49 | Fromethius | it fixed some of my problems |
| 03:15.00 | Mindful` | problem is |
| 03:15.04 | Fromethius | technomancer i'm going to make you pretty picture |
| 03:15.06 | Mindful` | this seems to be the case with all abilities of the type |
| 03:15.10 | Mindful` | Effect - Target |
| 03:15.16 | Technomancer | waaaiiit |
| 03:15.17 | Technomancer | I see it |
| 03:15.23 | Technomancer | the problem was |
| 03:15.27 | Technomancer | I had View raw data on |
| 03:15.40 | Technomancer | I see Event - Events + |
| 03:15.47 | Technomancer | in the field column |
| 03:15.55 | Fromethius | technomancer: http://imgur.com/BRtz1.png |
| 03:16.32 | Fromethius | mindful` |
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| 03:16.40 | Fromethius | have you tried making a new map and copying over the xml data from your old one |
| 03:16.45 | Fromethius | sounds like a corrupt map |
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| 03:16.56 | Technomancer | yes From, thanks |
| 03:17.03 | Fromethius | you got it working? |
| 03:18.34 | Technomancer | lemme get back to you :P |
| 03:18.40 | Technomancer | I know what to do now |
| 03:18.54 | Mindful` | you know what fromethius |
| 03:18.57 | Mindful` | that's a really good idea |
| 03:19.01 | Technomancer | but the events thing disappeared when I pressed something tabbing out so i gotta go thru it again |
| 03:19.06 | Fromethius | i'm full of them |
| 03:19.11 | Mindful` | :P |
| 03:19.24 | Mindful` | unfortunately, i have no experience with any of the XML stuff |
| 03:19.27 | Fromethius | ok |
| 03:19.30 | Fromethius | i will teach you |
| 03:19.34 | Mindful` | sec |
| 03:19.34 | Fromethius | go to file save as |
| 03:19.37 | Mindful` | let my sc2 crash first |
| 03:19.40 | Fromethius | and save as components instead of a sc2map |
| 03:19.46 | Mindful` | i tried changing it in raw data |
| 03:19.50 | Mindful` | lets see if it fixes it |
| 03:19.59 | Fromethius | alright |
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| 03:20.19 | Mindful` | boo |
| 03:20.21 | Mindful` | ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xC0000005) |
| 03:20.21 | Mindful` | occurred at 001B:0099A3F3. The memory at '0x00000000' could not be read. |
| 03:20.21 | Technomancer | okay I got it right now |
| 03:20.22 | Mindful` | returns |
| 03:20.29 | Mindful` | anyway, let me go save my map normally so i can save it as something else |
| 03:20.30 | Technomancer | im at the step you outlined |
| 03:22.27 | Mindful` | file |
| 03:22.28 | Mindful` | save as |
| 03:22.31 | Mindful` | editor map components? |
| 03:22.42 | Fromethius | yup |
| 03:23.26 | Mindful` | and then i open a new map? |
| 03:23.53 | Fromethius | yeah make a new one and save that as components too |
| 03:23.53 | eldragon0 | hello home dog's |
| 03:24.06 | Mindful` | it should be totally blank |
| 03:24.10 | Mindful` | and its size/tileset dont matter? |
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| 03:24.24 | eldragon0 | sup onetwo how's it goin? |
| 03:24.26 | Fromethius | nothing matters make it whatever you want |
| 03:24.29 | onetwo | hi! |
| 03:24.29 | Mindful` | kk |
| 03:24.32 | Fromethius | you're just copying over the data |
| 03:24.42 | Mindful` | i figured it was something like that |
| 03:24.49 | Mindful` | i just wasnt sure if any of the data didn't get copied |
| 03:24.49 | eldragon0 | :3 |
| 03:25.06 | eldragon0 | hows you morning/evening/afternoon going? |
| 03:25.15 | onetwo | good, working on a tutorial atm :D |
| 03:25.18 | Mindful` | kk, i saved both |
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| 03:25.28 | eldragon0 | ohhh goody :) |
| 03:25.29 | Fromethius | alright |
| 03:25.39 | Fromethius | now open the components folder of your own map |
| 03:25.47 | Mindful` | close down the editor? |
| 03:25.55 | Fromethius | yeah sure |
| 03:26.10 | Mindful` | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:26.18 | Fromethius | good old copy pasta |
| 03:26.20 | Fromethius | omnonmonmnnomn |
| 03:26.24 | Mindful` | haha |
| 03:26.50 | Fromethius | alright |
| 03:26.51 | Mindful` | and now i open it |
| 03:26.54 | Mindful` | and then save it as a normal map file? |
| 03:27.09 | Fromethius | well, did you copy over your data first? |
| 03:27.12 | Mindful` | yeah |
| 03:27.18 | Fromethius | oh then yeah open it in the editor |
| 03:27.52 | Mindful` | here i was expecting you to ask me to DL an XML editor :P |
| 03:29.01 | rrowland | windows comes with an xml editor |
| 03:29.04 | rrowland | its called notepad |
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| 03:29.42 | wOlfLinG | I prefer Notepad++ :) |
| 03:29.46 | Dogmai | notepad++ |
| 03:29.50 | Dogmai | damn it wOlfLinG |
| 03:29.59 | TriSilver | Anyone have any insight on why a minimap would look black except for water, minerals, gas,and naga towers? |
| 03:30.00 | Dogmai | beat me by a sec mate |
| 03:30.06 | Mindful` | well |
| 03:30.10 | Mindful` | despite that being an excellent idea |
| 03:30.11 | Dogmai | because you turned off the terrain |
| 03:30.13 | Mindful` | the map still crashes |
| 03:30.14 | Mindful` | D: |
| 03:30.14 | Dogmai | TriSilver |
| 03:30.29 | wOlfLinG | A sec is all it takes ^^ |
| 03:30.32 | TriSilver | Ah, how might i turn that back on? |
| 03:30.34 | Mindful` | i think the editor doesn't want me to do this |
| 03:30.36 | Dogmai | there is a button near the minimap |
| 03:30.40 | Mindful` | it's working against me |
| 03:30.45 | Dogmai | just click until it comes back on |
| 03:30.51 | Fromethius | you're stronger than it |
| 03:30.57 | Mindful` | i'm not sure man |
| 03:30.58 | Fromethius | make yourself larger it will back down |
| 03:30.59 | Mindful` | i'm out of ideas |
| 03:31.05 | Fromethius | what's the problem |
| 03:31.05 | Mindful` | its pretty big |
| 03:31.17 | Fromethius | bloated != strong |
| 03:31.23 | Mindful` | as long as the Alien Parasite unit has an Effect - Target type ability |
| 03:31.26 | Mindful` | the game will crash on startup |
| 03:31.29 | TriSilver | Well even the preview in the editor (before i open the map) is coming up black |
| 03:31.48 | Fromethius | oh no i know that problem |
| 03:31.56 | Fromethius | i meant is it still occuring after you did the xml |
| 03:31.59 | Dogmai | not sure then |
| 03:32.01 | Mindful` | yeah from |
| 03:32.02 | Mindful` | it is |
| 03:32.04 | Fromethius | oh |
| 03:32.06 | Mindful` | =/ |
| 03:32.08 | Fromethius | well then you isolated the problem! |
| 03:32.09 | Fromethius | congrats |
| 03:32.12 | Mindful` | LOL |
| 03:32.15 | Mindful` | isolated it to what? |
| 03:32.17 | Fromethius | data |
| 03:32.22 | Fromethius | not map corruption |
| 03:32.27 | Mindful` | what data could possibly be causing this? |
| 03:32.30 | Fromethius | something you made or did that you are now importing is corrupting |
| 03:32.38 | Fromethius | how much custom data do you have on your map? |
| 03:32.43 | Mindful` | uh |
| 03:32.49 | Mindful` | a sound i jacked from HoN and 2 custom images |
| 03:32.54 | Mindful` | everything else is starcraft 2 stuff |
| 03:33.02 | Mindful` | however, none of them are used in the ability's i'm adding |
| 03:33.03 | Fromethius | you could just open them all in notepad and go line by line |
| 03:33.13 | Fromethius | honestly |
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| 03:33.20 | Fromethius | i would just try to further narrow it down |
| 03:33.26 | Fromethius | make a new blank map and only import the units |
| 03:33.34 | Fromethius | works? ok now only import the abilities |
| 03:33.44 | Fromethius | doesn't work? ok it's a problem with one of your abilities, etc. |
| 03:33.56 | Mindful` | well, if i start the map with the unit not having an effect-target ability, it runs perfectly |
| 03:34.05 | Mindful` | i mean, the funny thing is that he has one already. it just errors if i add another |
| 03:34.15 | Fromethius | wait |
| 03:34.19 | TriSilver | The Alt+T toggle has nothing to with whats happening to the map. Everything is black no matter what. |
| 03:34.19 | Fromethius | is it just this unit? |
| 03:34.25 | Fromethius | can other units have effect target abilities? |
| 03:34.30 | Mindful` | let me check |
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| 03:35.31 | Mindful` | oh you know what |
| 03:35.35 | Mindful` | let me check something real quick |
| 03:35.43 | wOlfLinG | Guys, why doesn't my drop-pod work? It works if i set it to be the mule drop, but with the firebat unit, but not if i set it to an exact clone of the mule ability but pointing to differant paths :/ |
| 03:36.11 | WildFire_ | :O |
| 03:36.17 | WildFire_ | so whats everyone up to? |
| 03:36.22 | Fromethius | fixing people's problems |
| 03:36.28 | WildFire_ | lol |
| 03:36.55 | wOlfLinG | Talking of problems: Help me! *cry* |
| 03:37.00 | Fromethius | what isn't working about it |
| 03:37.10 | WildFire_ | lol |
| 03:37.16 | wOlfLinG | Well the unit spawns after 4 seconds like the mule |
| 03:37.30 | wOlfLinG | But the pod doesn't show, and the sound doesn't play |
| 03:37.33 | rrowland | http://star2pros.com/?hop=lucidpsimc lol |
| 03:37.40 | Mindful` | hah |
| 03:37.42 | Mindful` | ok |
| 03:37.46 | wOlfLinG | So they just spawn at the target point |
| 03:37.50 | Fromethius | oh |
| 03:37.51 | rrowland | "My name is Wesley and I've been playing Starcraft 2 online since I got invited into the beta in January 2010." |
| 03:37.52 | Mindful` | so, things go badly if i add an effect - target ability to a Biological unit |
| 03:37.53 | Fromethius | it's an actor problem |
| 03:38.06 | Fromethius | you need to go to the actor for the mule drop |
| 03:38.09 | Mindful` | however, this makes some level of sense considering i've changed the Biological flag text to "" (blank) |
| 03:38.10 | rrowland | I got invited to the beta before the beta began |
| 03:38.12 | rrowland | hur durr |
| 03:38.21 | onetwo | LOL |
| 03:38.23 | onetwo | hAHAHA |
| 03:38.29 | Technomancer | I woulda beta'd but had uni the whole time |
| 03:39.16 | rrowland | For all the work he put into this pile of shit he didn't do much research |
| 03:39.18 | TriSilver | Screw it. Time for the good ol C+P on a new map treatment. I hope the additional textures are cool with Kohal. |
| 03:39.20 | rrowland | Oh and on his chart |
| 03:39.26 | rrowland | He compares his guide to "joanas guide" |
| 03:39.29 | rrowland | which is a WoW leveling guide |
| 03:39.32 | wOlfLinG | He's not even a top diamond xD |
| 03:39.39 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 03:39.46 | onetwo | still |
| 03:39.46 | Kakera | I found the second and third missions easier on brutal than the first one. |
| 03:39.51 | wOlfLinG | 74/108 games isn't good compared to pros like dimaga and pplz |
| 03:39.52 | Kakera | Surprisingly. |
| 03:39.54 | onetwo | he'll be the one making $1000 on fools |
| 03:39.58 | rrowland | Apparently joanas guide teaches 1v1, build orders, has 24 hour support and is updated weekly |
| 03:40.15 | wOlfLinG | Sounds good. If you hate money :D |
| 03:41.19 | Fromethius | wolfing you get it working? |
| 03:41.30 | wOlfLinG | not yet |
| 03:41.37 | Fromethius | do you know what to do? |
| 03:41.38 | wOlfLinG | still looking for the correct actor :/ |
| 03:41.42 | rrowland | This guy was in beta before it even existed and he knows of joana's secret starcraft guide, and you can get all his knowledge for only $27 |
| 03:41.51 | Mindful` | sounds legit |
| 03:41.58 | Mindful` | you should prob get some candy from his van, too |
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| 03:42.14 | ShadowTiger | okay so can anybody help me figure out why my map crashes? |
| 03:42.16 | rrowland | regular price: 54 |
| 03:42.18 | Fromethius | wolfing |
| 03:42.19 | rrowland | if you buy today: 27 |
| 03:42.21 | Fromethius | here's a hint |
| 03:42.27 | Fromethius | merc drop model |
| 03:43.08 | Fromethius | er, wolfling |
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| 03:43.25 | ShadowTiger | anyboyd? |
| 03:43.41 | Vailreth | any one here go with nova ? |
| 03:43.51 | Vailreth | or did they side with tosh? |
| 03:43.53 | ShadowTiger | not that far yet : / |
| 03:43.53 | Lilianna | I played the nova mission afterwards |
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| 03:44.07 | wOlfLinG | yeah, found it :) |
| 03:44.14 | kruno | yo |
| 03:44.23 | Technomancer | ok, Fromethius, so... im at the step u sent the picture in |
| 03:44.30 | Fromethius | alright |
| 03:44.30 | wOlfLinG | I did novas, but liked tosh's a lot better when i redid it :) |
| 03:45.00 | Kakera | Hey, in his guide |
| 03:45.00 | Mindful` | ok, i lied |
| 03:45.05 | Mindful` | i have absolutely no idea what's causing this |
| 03:45.14 | Kakera | If you scroll down the page there's a preview of the build order for best start up |
| 03:45.34 | Kakera | If you use that order, you probably won't make gold on the Opening Gambit challenge |
| 03:46.00 | Kakera | It's not bad, but it's far from 'the best' like they say |
| 03:46.24 | onetwo | man |
| 03:46.27 | onetwo | unit becomes idle |
| 03:46.28 | onetwo | event |
| 03:46.31 | onetwo | doesnt seem to work |
| 03:46.38 | Fromethius | technomancer if you send me a picture of what you have so far maybe i can figure out what's wrong |
| 03:46.58 | Kakera | Their sell page really looks like an info-commercial on AbKingsPro or something like that. |
| 03:47.19 | Technomancer | how do you send a private message to someone? been so long >.< |
| 03:47.29 | Kakera | I bet you can easily put the guide under your bed while not in usage too. |
| 03:47.35 | onetwo | gl technomancer |
| 03:47.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:48.14 | Fromethius | depends on your client |
| 03:48.26 | Fromethius | i'm using the web client and i just click someone's name on the right and hit query |
| 03:48.42 | Kakera | "Many guides on begin sold today are just straight junk" Says so right on their page. |
| 03:49.12 | onetwo | oh |
| 03:49.15 | onetwo | do you mean in bnet |
| 03:49.17 | onetwo | or in irc |
| 03:49.51 | Fromethius | lol probably irc |
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| 03:50.24 | Fromethius | woops |
| 03:50.42 | Fromethius | but yeah technomancer just type /query name |
| 03:51.08 | Saeris | fucking hell i hate using excel |
| 03:51.17 | Fromethius | m$ |
| 03:51.18 | Saeris | crashes on me every time |
| 03:51.25 | wOlfLinG | lol, that has so gotta be a joke xD |
| 03:51.36 | Technomancer | http://imgur.com/tx73v.png |
| 03:51.42 | Kakera | Wow, they even offer a refund anytime for 56 days, but at the very bottom of the page it's written their third party for handling cash can change its policies anytime for any reason. |
| 03:52.00 | Technomancer | I am where u were, From, the effects for actor appear identical to me |
| 03:52.09 | Technomancer | but I did set the weapon to void ray |
| 03:52.19 | Technomancer | well no |
| 03:52.20 | Kakera | I don't know much in law, but that looks like "Hey, buy our stuff. Not satisfied? Whoops, we suddenly can't reimburse you anymore. Sorry!" |
| 03:52.29 | Technomancer | I didnt change the weapon itself, I went in and changed the appearance |
| 03:52.42 | wOlfLinG | Btw, what 2 good looking buildings from the starcraft campaign i can use for a 'main building' |
| 03:52.44 | Technomancer | my reason for this was not wanting to lose the engineering bay upgrades |
| 03:52.59 | Kakera | What are you trying to do, wolfling? |
| 03:53.02 | Technomancer | as apparently when u do the switch, only protoss air upgrades affect that terran infantry unit X( |
| 03:53.26 | Technomancer | and i've seen no way around that auto-assignment so far.. pisses me off |
| 03:53.28 | Fromethius | ok what you're doing at the moment sounds complicated and wrong |
| 03:53.29 | Technomancer | but one thign at a time |
| 03:53.29 | wOlfLinG | create a map, which is slightly like dota, but also completly differant |
| 03:53.36 | Kakera | Oh, I see. |
| 03:53.48 | wOlfLinG | So i have heros, but adding things like drop-pods, etc |
| 03:53.48 | Fromethius | i'd just do it the way i told you and then just make ground upgrades affect the void ray weapon |
| 03:53.49 | Technomancer | that's me in a nutshell XD |
| 03:53.52 | onetwo | LOL wtf |
| 03:53.57 | onetwo | that website has the HDH bracket image i made |
| 03:53.57 | Technomancer | well |
| 03:53.59 | onetwo | how the hell |
| 03:54.00 | wOlfLinG | Need a cool-looking building to protect :) |
| 03:54.07 | Technomancer | I dont know how to make terran ground upgrades affect it, |
| 03:54.07 | Kakera | I personally like the big Xel'naga temple with the doors you gotta dig through using the lazer, but that might not be in the editor |
| 03:54.12 | Technomancer | that's the real issue |
| 03:54.12 | Fromethius | that's easy |
| 03:54.17 | wOlfLinG | O_o you made that image ontwo? |
| 03:54.21 | wOlfLinG | onetwo* |
| 03:54.25 | Fromethius | well, i mean, i assume it's easy |
| 03:54.28 | Fromethius | lemme go figure it out real quick |
| 03:54.29 | Kakera | It was designed to be on the north-east side, too. |
| 03:54.30 | Fromethius | brb |
| 03:54.32 | Technomancer | errr.. |
| 03:54.33 | Mindful` | well fromethius |
| 03:54.36 | Technomancer | well lets leave that to later |
| 03:54.38 | Mindful` | nvm he went afk |
| 03:54.44 | Technomancer | can we get the attack animation down first? |
| 03:54.52 | Fromethius | ok |
| 03:54.54 | Fromethius | figured it out |
| 03:54.55 | Technomancer | im not 100% the two are connected issues |
| 03:54.58 | Fromethius | it is really easy |
| 03:55.03 | Fromethius | just go to the upgrades tab |
| 03:55.05 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:55.15 | Fromethius | and go to ground weapons |
| 03:55.19 | Fromethius | and add the unit in the unit array |
| 03:55.45 | Technomancer | data type upgrades? |
| 03:55.46 | onetwo | i like how they blacked out # 1 |
| 03:55.48 | onetwo | in HDH invitational title |
| 03:55.52 | onetwo | for some reason |
| 03:55.52 | Fromethius | er not the unit |
| 03:55.56 | Fromethius | yeah data type upgrades |
| 03:55.57 | onetwo | a lot of photoshopping is going on, on this site |
| 03:56.00 | Technomancer | cheers, I understand |
| 03:56.06 | Mindful` | this is absurd |
| 03:56.10 | Mindful` | it just refuses to work |
| 03:56.24 | Fromethius | tell me about it |
| 03:56.28 | Mindful` | same thing |
| 03:56.45 | Fromethius | have you tried importing things one at a time to further isolate the problem? |
| 03:56.48 | Fromethius | er |
| 03:56.49 | Fromethius | wait |
| 03:56.54 | Fromethius | no you said you figured it out? |
| 03:56.57 | Mindful` | i thought i did |
| 03:57.00 | Mindful` | but i didn't |
| 03:57.05 | Fromethius | it was only happening to biological units and taht was because you removed the name? |
| 03:57.07 | Fromethius | or something like that |
| 03:57.16 | Mindful` | i thought that was the problem, but it wasn't |
| 03:57.19 | Fromethius | oh |
| 03:57.21 | RodOfNOD | theres some units that are baddass now |
| 03:57.47 | Fromethius | well then mindful`. can you add ability target abilities to other units? |
| 03:57.56 | Mindful` | my human heroes, yeah |
| 03:58.14 | Fromethius | ok so doesn't that pretty much tell you what the problem is right there? |
| 03:58.20 | got_Ammo | is there any trick to getting teams to show up properly in the loading screen on b.net? |
| 03:58.26 | Mindful` | no D: |
| 03:58.32 | Mindful` | the alien parasite unit is a hero too |
| 03:58.41 | Fromethius | are you remaking parasite? |
| 03:58.45 | Mindful` | yes |
| 03:58.47 | Mindful` | haha |
| 03:58.51 | Fromethius | i played that quite a bit in wc3 |
| 03:58.55 | Mindful` | the game's up on b.net right now, i'm trying to get a patch out for it |
| 03:59.00 | Fromethius | wait |
| 03:59.06 | Fromethius | is that the one that is top down? |
| 03:59.13 | Mindful` | its like ~570 games per hour |
| 03:59.20 | Mindful` | er |
| 03:59.22 | Fromethius | top-down view perspective? |
| 03:59.25 | Mindful` | yeah |
| 03:59.31 | Fromethius | hah i played that last night with friends |
| 03:59.39 | Mindful` | :D |
| 03:59.41 | Fromethius | "friend: OMG FROMETHIUS THEY MADE PARASITE!!" |
| 03:59.55 | Fromethius | then he didn't feel like reading tooltips and started tking everyone |
| 03:59.58 | Mindful` | hahaha |
| 04:00.06 | Fromethius | i was a cook |
| 04:00.11 | Fromethius | because i was hungry at the time |
| 04:00.13 | Fromethius | didn't help |
| 04:00.30 | Mindful` | well |
| 04:00.41 | Mindful` | i can't add effect - target abilities to parasites |
| 04:00.44 | Mindful` | for some reason |
| 04:00.45 | WhiteBomber | Aw darnit. |
| 04:00.49 | Mindful` | even if they have one of that type already |
| 04:00.50 | WhiteBomber | I wish I had thought of that earlier... |
| 04:01.04 | WhiteBomber | I could have gone through the campaign without spending any credits |
| 04:01.13 | Fromethius | hm? |
| 04:01.27 | WhiteBomber | Then, after saving, buy all the upgrades from a certain tech tree |
| 04:01.38 | WhiteBomber | And load the save file with full credits... and so on. |
| 04:01.43 | Fromethius | heh |
| 04:01.46 | WhiteBomber | Heck |
| 04:01.53 | WhiteBomber | It doesn't even need to be the full campaign. |
| 04:02.02 | WhiteBomber | Just enough to afford the upgrades. |
| 04:02.12 | WhiteBomber | Once you have the achievement, it doesn't matter. |
| 04:02.12 | Mindful` | well, i'm glad to hear you like the game |
| 04:02.17 | WhiteBomber | Oh yeah, I love it. |
| 04:02.23 | WhiteBomber | I hate myself for being so stupid -.-' |
| 04:02.24 | Mindful` | that was aimed at fromethius :P |
| 04:02.29 | Fromethius | mindful' did you add custom unit - attributes? |
| 04:02.31 | WhiteBomber | Oh, sorry. |
| 04:02.34 | Mindful` | haha |
| 04:02.34 | Mindful` | it's fine |
| 04:02.43 | Mindful` | i didn't add any |
| 04:02.53 | Mindful` | but they do have different attributes |
| 04:02.53 | Kakera | So what's the purpose to those gold stars you earn with meta achievements, and from some of the harder achievements too? |
| 04:03.03 | Mindful` | and i did change the text of Biological, Light, and Heroic to blank |
| 04:03.12 | Fromethius | uhm |
| 04:03.14 | Fromethius | is that a good idea? |
| 04:03.18 | Mindful` | well, i kind of had to |
| 04:03.22 | Fromethius | why |
| 04:03.26 | WhiteBomber | Gold stars? Meta achievements? |
| 04:03.28 | Mindful` | otherwise Telepathic Projection won't work |
| 04:03.34 | WhiteBomber | I'm confused, Kakera. |
| 04:03.37 | Kakera | Meta achievements like the one for the Mar Sara missions |
| 04:03.37 | Fromethius | bandages on problems are not good! |
| 04:03.50 | Kakera | There's a little gold star at the bottom right of it |
| 04:03.54 | Mindful` | upgrades can't change classifications per unit D: |
| 04:03.55 | WhiteBomber | I'm not sure what you mean. |
| 04:03.56 | Mindful` | attributes, sorry |
| 04:03.57 | Kakera | With the number 1 nexrt to it |
| 04:04.02 | WhiteBomber | The gold star means it has a reward. |
| 04:04.04 | WhiteBomber | I think. |
| 04:04.14 | Kakera | I know some has 11, or maybe it was a bug. |
| 04:04.19 | Fromethius | what does telepathic projection do? |
| 04:04.23 | Kakera | I'll check, be right back.) |
| 04:04.27 | WhiteBomber | I'll go look, too. >_>' |
| 04:04.27 | Mindful` | makes your target look exactly like the parasite |
| 04:04.42 | Mindful` | i can change weapons, icons, stats, etc through behaviors/upgrades, but i couldn't change attributes |
| 04:04.46 | Mindful` | so i just killed them >.> |
| 04:04.52 | Fromethius | uhm |
| 04:04.56 | Fromethius | sounds like you'er doing it the hard way |
| 04:05.09 | Mindful` | how's that? |
| 04:05.15 | Fromethius | what's a hallucination |
| 04:05.24 | Mindful` | telepathic projection makes your target |
| 04:05.27 | Mindful` | as in, target player |
| 04:05.34 | Mindful` | morph into, and then look like, the parasite :P |
| 04:05.34 | Kakera | The Quick Match achievements have 11, but I guess it's because there's 11 'ranks'. |
| 04:05.42 | Fromethius | yeah i know it was a joke |
| 04:05.49 | Mindful` | sorry D: |
| 04:05.49 | Fromethius | i was saying you should look at hallucinations |
| 04:05.57 | Fromethius | for a better way to do what you're trying to do |
| 04:06.04 | Mindful` | it wouldn't have enough |
| 04:06.08 | Kakera | Well maybe it has no purpose. I thought the gold stars might be some form of currency for cool stuff you can buy later on. Like more decals for 2 stars, etc. |
| 04:06.10 | Mindful` | they can do a lot of it |
| 04:06.14 | Mindful` | but too much has to do with altering actors |
| 04:06.32 | Mindful` | and/or unit icons |
| 04:06.43 | Fromethius | can't you just morph the target unit in to the parasite? |
| 04:07.00 | Mindful` | that would be ideal, but can have weird side effects |
| 04:07.05 | Fromethius | likeee |
| 04:07.06 | Mindful` | like the ability not working if the target is stunned :P |
| 04:07.10 | kruno | YAY sc2 has a new patched |
| 04:07.16 | ShadowTiger | does anyone know why the phase2/release patch might make my map crash? |
| 04:07.27 | Fromethius | why would the ability not work if the target is stunned? |
| 04:07.34 | Mindful` | when you say morphing |
| 04:07.36 | Mindful` | you mean using a morph ability? |
| 04:07.44 | Fromethius | i suppose |
| 04:07.54 | Mindful` | if they're stunned, they won't exactly be able to use the morph ability |
| 04:08.20 | Mindful` | this is kind of a tangent though, do you really think unit attributes being empty text would cause a problem like this? |
| 04:08.20 | Fromethius | isn't it forced? |
| 04:08.29 | Mindful` | ...can you force things even if they're disabled? |
| 04:08.46 | Fromethius | not sure |
| 04:08.49 | Fromethius | but |
| 04:08.50 | Fromethius | you should do this: |
| 04:09.08 | Fromethius | make them not empty text (revert them) and see if your map crashes still |
| 04:09.20 | Fromethius | figure out the problem before you try to find the solution |
| 04:09.22 | Mindful` | well, one of the units i was adding abilities to had 0 classifications |
| 04:09.29 | Mindful` | and the map still crashed when i gave him an ability |
| 04:09.37 | Mindful` | er, attributes, sorry |
| 04:09.46 | Fromethius | sc2 works in mysterious ways? i'd still try to find the problem first |
| 04:10.06 | Mindful` | ug |
| 04:10.07 | Mindful` | alright |
| 04:10.12 | Mindful` | time to scroll through the text editor |
| 04:10.18 | Fromethius | well i mean think about it |
| 04:10.21 | Fromethius | you're trying to fix this bug |
| 04:10.25 | Fromethius | and you don't even know what's causing it |
| 04:10.33 | WhiteBomber | 'Ya still there, Kakera? |
| 04:10.35 | Fromethius | sounds kinda difficult |
| 04:10.47 | Mindful` | yeah, but like |
| 04:10.56 | Mindful` | i have no idea where to even start |
| 04:11.12 | Fromethius | that's why i said start on a blank map |
| 04:11.17 | Fromethius | and start importing things one at a time till it braks |
| 04:11.19 | WhiteBomber | The gold stars are rewards. |
| 04:11.19 | Fromethius | breaks |
| 04:11.24 | Mindful` | hmm |
| 04:11.30 | Mindful` | can i copy more than one unit at a time? |
| 04:11.36 | Fromethius | you can do whatever you want |
| 04:11.39 | Fromethius | open it up in notepad |
| 04:11.41 | WhiteBomber | There aren't eleven ranksâsome of the ranks to those quick match achievements have multiple rewards. |
| 04:11.43 | Fromethius | copy and paste the text |
| 04:11.46 | Mindful` | oh, derp, notepad |
| 04:11.57 | Technomancer | From:extremely noob question: is it possible to rotate units you place or rotate it before you place with the cursor? |
| 04:11.58 | WhiteBomber | So, for each gold star the achievement has a reward. |
| 04:12.04 | Fromethius | double click them |
| 04:12.16 | WhiteBomber | I think you can use a modifier key..? |
| 04:12.19 | Technomancer | I see it |
| 04:12.22 | Fromethius | ;) |
| 04:12.24 | Technomancer | man that's convluted |
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| 04:13.51 | WhiteBomber | By the way, are all Terrans who live on outer planets southerners or somethin'? I mean, there's a rare few who don't sound like they came from Texas, but... |
| 04:14.11 | Technomancer | Tychus sounds like he's from Alabama or somethin lol |
| 04:14.23 | Dimmondback | the south? |
| 04:14.25 | WhiteBomber | Mengsk doesn't sound foreign. |
| 04:14.46 | WhiteBomber | The south, Dimmondback. |
| 04:14.48 | Dimmondback | I want a korean voice actor in SC2 |
| 04:14.54 | WhiteBomber | As in, southern United States. |
| 04:14.58 | Dimmondback | to just speak korean |
| 04:15.02 | Technomancer | they all have a southern/cowboy accent, they're going for a sorta cybercowboy diplomacy thing |
| 04:15.07 | Dimmondback | maybe the fast ass korean rapper |
| 04:15.16 | Technomancer | Dimmondback: i'm goin out on a limb here, but are you korean? :P |
| 04:15.24 | Dimmondback | nope, im white |
| 04:15.27 | Technomancer | lol |
| 04:15.34 | WhiteBomber | No, I think he's got a complex of some sort. |
| 04:16.00 | Technomancer | im actually Scottish.. kinda glad they dont have a scottish character, it'd probably sound stereotyped :P |
| 04:16.18 | Dimmondback | WOW |
| 04:16.21 | Dimmondback | everyone today |
| 04:16.24 | Dimmondback | is on my ass |
| 04:16.26 | WhiteBomber | Aww, but the stereotyped voices are so badass. |
| 04:16.28 | Mindful` | LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
| 04:16.33 | Dimmondback | just ask mindful |
| 04:16.35 | Dimmondback | seriously... |
| 04:16.39 | Technomancer | im not on your back |
| 04:16.40 | Mindful` | this channel abuses dimmondback |
| 04:16.42 | Mindful` | i love you all even more now |
| 04:17.09 | Dimmondback | Mindful is a jerk... QQ |
| 04:17.24 | Dimmondback | Even though I helped you save your map... |
| 04:17.27 | Vailreth | er ive been wonderinging what does QQ even mean? |
| 04:17.36 | Dimmondback | Its a crying face |
| 04:17.38 | WhiteBomber | ;( I'm sad... I went through the campaign times only now to learn that I didn't have to. |
| 04:17.44 | WhiteBomber | Two times* |
| 04:17.45 | Dimmondback | see the tears running out of the eyes? |
| 04:18.03 | WhiteBomber | QQ: Quick question (In my case). |
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| 04:18.21 | WhiteBomber | But as a smiley, it's teary eyes. |
| 04:18.25 | Vailreth | .... not particularyly i would do crying like p.q |
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| 04:18.39 | Mindful` | yes but vail, that makes sense |
| 04:18.41 | Mindful` | and this is the internet |
| 04:18.43 | Mindful` | thinkg about it |
| 04:18.46 | Mindful` | think* |
| 04:19.05 | Vailreth | i dont like to think it makes my head hot and my brain hurt |
| 04:19.12 | Dimmondback | Mindful... fix the stupid bomb defuser... |
| 04:19.20 | WhiteBomber | I need to take that word off my list. |
| 04:19.24 | WildFire_ | hey how do I found the trigger for setting starting resorces? |
| 04:19.29 | WhiteBomber | "Bomb" is more common that I ever thought it was. |
| 04:19.40 | Vailreth | fail bomb |
| 04:19.42 | Dimmondback | bomb bomb bomb? |
| 04:19.46 | WhiteBomber | I'm watchin' something on my browser and suddenly "BEEP". |
| 04:19.47 | ShadowTiger | does anyone know if lots of maps stopped working after phase 2? |
| 04:19.58 | Technomancer | Can't seem to find firebat on the units tab in the data module, and yes I have the dependencies enabled (I have one on the map now) |
| 04:20.14 | ShadowTiger | wildfire starting resources is a melee - set starting resources trigger in initialization |
| 04:20.15 | Fromethius | open up dependencies |
| 04:20.15 | WhiteBomber | I'm sad that I can't find one of my favorite maps after phase 1. |
| 04:20.15 | onetwo | yeah shadow |
| 04:20.16 | WildFire_ | maybe you need to make it? |
| 04:20.16 | Fromethius | put story first |
| 04:20.19 | Fromethius | win internet |
| 04:20.24 | WildFire_ | ok shadow |
| 04:20.25 | ShadowTiger | you need to delete it and make your own |
| 04:20.26 | WildFire_ | I found that |
| 04:20.31 | WildFire_ | ah |
| 04:20.36 | WildFire_ | how I make my own? |
| 04:20.42 | ShadowTiger | or you can edit the data editor to change the race's starting values but thats a bad idea |
| 04:20.48 | ShadowTiger | just do player - set resources |
| 04:20.55 | Technomancer | From, you are the man :D |
| 04:20.58 | Fromethius | lol |
| 04:21.00 | ShadowTiger | in the same initialization trigger |
| 04:21.13 | ShadowTiger | so is there a thread that talks abou how to fix your map after phase 2 |
| 04:21.22 | ShadowTiger | because i disabled 90% of my triggers still crashes |
| 04:21.35 | WhiteBomber | Create a custom melee where Terran players start with 2000/2000 and 200 supply max. Then watch the LOLs/complaints. |
| 04:21.59 | Dimmondback | LLOLOL |
| 04:23.18 | WildFire_ | shadow I cant find it |
| 04:23.18 | WhiteBomber | I don't know what to do now... Finish this campaign or start an entirely new one? |
| 04:23.39 | Dimmondback | WhiteBomber : you could always tell Mindful to stop being a meanie |
| 04:23.41 | ShadowTiger | player - set player property |
| 04:23.44 | WhiteBomber | Actually, I might as well start a new one -.-' I already got the achievements in this one I wanted... |
| 04:24.01 | WhiteBomber | And I went through 3/4ths of the campaign the first time without spending any credits (except for mercenaries). |
| 04:24.24 | WhiteBomber | Trying to get 100% completion is a pain. >_>' |
| 04:24.31 | ShadowTiger | yeah it is |
| 04:24.40 | ShadowTiger | i wish they let you use your new upgrades on older missions |
| 04:24.48 | WhiteBomber | Also, after you FINISH the campaign, you can't upgrade anymore. |
| 04:24.48 | ShadowTiger | that was so fun when i did it at blizz hq |
| 04:24.57 | WildFire_ | thanks shadow |
| 04:25.14 | WildFire_ | now can I do that for all playeers or do I gotta do each player a new trigger? |
| 04:25.27 | ShadowTiger | use a for loop |
| 04:25.33 | WildFire_ | a? |
| 04:25.35 | WildFire_ | lol |
| 04:25.44 | WhiteBomber | So I think what I'll do is play all the way to the last mission without spending credits, save, then spend credits and beat levels for the achievements with planned out upgrades. Then, after getting the achievements, loading the save file and doing it to another..? |
| 04:25.58 | ShadowTiger | for integera a 1 to 10, set player ( a) property (50 minerals) |
| 04:26.03 | ShadowTiger | something like that |
| 04:26.17 | WildFire_ | ok so a is all? |
| 04:26.21 | WhiteBomber | But then I have to somehow beat that final level on Hard... :( |
| 04:26.31 | Vailreth | man i was hoping to replay old missions with new tech |
| 04:27.05 | WhiteBomber | Yeah... If we could do that, I wouldn't be replaying the campaign. >_>' |
| 04:27.30 | WhiteBomber | I guess I better cut my losses and start over... Darn. |
| 04:28.37 | wOlfLinG | How long does a harvest take? |
| 04:28.51 | Technomancer | From: Another obviously noob question; when I copy and paste a unit, I lose the model, textures and unit displays |
| 04:28.58 | ShadowTiger | well to harves 100 square acres of corn |
| 04:29.01 | ShadowTiger | that takes a few days |
| 04:29.07 | ShadowTiger | depending on how many machines and workers you have |
| 04:29.32 | wOlfLinG | -.- As in an SCV harvesting some minerals |
| 04:29.39 | ShadowTiger | technomancer, you need to copy paste the actor and make it point to your new unit |
| 04:29.40 | WhiteBomber | A few seconds. |
| 04:29.46 | wOlfLinG | How many though? |
| 04:29.53 | ShadowTiger | doesnt it say in the ability |
| 04:29.55 | ShadowTiger | : D |
| 04:29.57 | WhiteBomber | I hope you have a stopwatch. |
| 04:30.00 | wOlfLinG | Can't see it :( |
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| 04:30.23 | Technomancer | found it not working when I tried to paste aspects in the dropdown from one unit to another.. ill try it and let u know |
| 04:31.26 | ShadowTiger | http://www.youtube.com/starcraftscientist#p/u/5/VW-DMbsp4cw technomancer |
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| 04:34.59 | Fromethius | technomancer: when you duplicate something duplicate the actor too |
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| 04:36.47 | ShadowTiger | wOlfLinG its a behavior called minerals |
| 04:37.08 | ShadowTiger | it takes 2.786 seconds |
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| 04:40.33 | wOlfLinG | lol, i love the tauren marine sounds xD |
| 04:40.43 | Fromethius | =O |
| 04:40.49 | Fromethius | funny, i'm listening to sounds atm too |
| 04:40.53 | wOlfLinG | ^^ |
| 04:40.55 | Fromethius | zealots are such tryhards |
| 04:41.12 | Fromethius | they need to be more like scvs |
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| 04:41.14 | Fromethius | and reeeelax |
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| 04:42.30 | AsaPhelps | damn i failed on the last mission |
| 04:42.31 | AsaPhelps | i suck |
| 04:42.34 | wOlfLinG | ^^ |
| 04:42.55 | AsaPhelps | those worms are more annoying than i thought they'd be |
| 04:43.05 | Mindful` | well fromethius |
| 04:43.07 | Mindful` | i've found the root |
| 04:43.08 | Fromethius | well mindful |
| 04:43.12 | Fromethius | yay |
| 04:43.15 | Mindful` | apparently, if a unit has a morph ability |
| 04:43.19 | Mindful` | and more than one effect - target ability |
| 04:43.22 | Mindful` | the game explodes |
| 04:43.26 | Fromethius | =OOOOOOOO |
| 04:43.31 | Fromethius | that doesn't sound like the root |
| 04:43.34 | Fromethius | lol |
| 04:43.37 | Fromethius | why does THAT happen |
| 04:43.41 | wOlfLinG | Lol, my tauren miners are funny xD |
| 04:43.44 | Mindful` | well, i've no idea |
| 04:43.46 | Fromethius | must venture further down the rabbit hole! |
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| 04:43.55 | Mindful` | but at a certain point |
| 04:44.02 | Fromethius | you might want to stop before you get to the universe though |
| 04:44.05 | Fromethius | try to keep it in the editor |
| 04:44.08 | Mindful` | :P |
| 04:44.41 | Fromethius | mm pineapples are like candy |
| 04:44.52 | Fromethius | technomancer you get it working? |
| 04:45.02 | Mindful` | i lied |
| 04:45.13 | Mindful` | apparently a unit can have blizzard's morph abilities and multiple effect - target abilities |
| 04:45.15 | Mindful` | just not mine :( |
| 04:45.21 | Fromethius | racism |
| 04:45.31 | Mindful` | indeed |
| 04:45.33 | Mindful` | so now the question |
| 04:46.01 | Fromethius | is blizzard's crash reporter useful at all? |
| 04:46.04 | Fromethius | never really looked at it |
| 04:46.06 | Mindful` | no |
| 04:46.08 | Mindful` | same error every time |
| 04:46.12 | Fromethius | what is it |
| 04:46.19 | Mindful` | D: |
| 04:46.22 | Mindful` | i pasted it earlier |
| 04:46.23 | Mindful` | sec |
| 04:46.41 | Mindful` | crashing game again so i can copy paste error |
| 04:46.42 | Mindful` | lololol |
| 04:46.45 | Fromethius | lol |
| 04:46.59 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 04:47.10 | Fromethius | watch now it won't crash just to spite you |
| 04:47.15 | ekcolnovkol | love taps wOlfLinG |
| 04:47.16 | Mindful` | the thought had crossed my mind |
| 04:47.21 | Fromethius | hah |
| 04:47.21 | Mindful` | unfortunately, |
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| 04:47.27 | Mindful` | ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xC0000005) |
| 04:47.27 | wOlfLinG | screams |
| 04:47.27 | Mindful` | occurred at 001B:0099A3F3. The memory at '0x00000000' could not be read. |
| 04:47.37 | Fromethius | wtf does that mean |
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| 04:47.46 | Mindful` | you wanted me to paste it |
| 04:47.54 | wOlfLinG | ekcol tried to rape me :( |
| 04:47.56 | Fromethius | why do they even give you an error |
| 04:48.00 | Fromethius | that's useless |
| 04:48.01 | Fromethius | rofl |
| 04:48.04 | Mindful` | the only time people have gotten similar errors is when they crash getting onto battle.net |
| 04:48.15 | Mindful` | and then it's becuase of a firewall or something |
| 04:48.16 | Mindful` | idk |
| 04:48.27 | Fromethius | yeah i don't think that's it |
| 04:48.33 | Mindful` | yeah |
| 04:48.35 | Mindful` | well |
| 04:48.41 | Mindful` | not sure where to go from here |
| 04:48.49 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/point-with-offset-polar/ by gerikes |
| 04:48.50 | Mindful` | a unit can't have more than one effect target ability and a custom morph at the same time, apparently |
| 04:49.02 | Fromethius | any unit? |
| 04:49.24 | Mindful` | let me try a different one |
| 04:49.25 | Mindful` | but i think so |
| 04:50.25 | Fromethius | anyone else go through the all the pissed sounds and listen to all of them? |
| 04:50.36 | Mindful` | i do sometimes |
| 04:50.49 | Mindful` | however, it appears to be the case that this crash does occur with any unit |
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| 04:50.51 | Fromethius | "zealot: how peaceful it must be for you, to have a mind unburnded by thought" |
| 04:50.51 | Mindful` | at least any of my custom ones |
| 04:50.51 | Fromethius | OUCH |
| 04:50.55 | Mindful` | LOL |
| 04:51.13 | Fromethius | unburdened* |
| 04:51.14 | Mindful` | unfortunately |
| 04:51.19 | Mindful` | idk what to do now |
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| 04:51.32 | Fromethius | hmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 04:52.00 | Mindful` | if this problem made half an ounce of sense, i could try different things |
| 04:52.02 | jokeR_ | ok this is really getting on my nerves. |
| 04:52.02 | Mindful` | but it doesn't seem to |
| 04:52.30 | Fromethius | can it have 2 effect target abilities |
| 04:52.32 | Fromethius | if there is no morph |
| 04:52.34 | Mindful` | i mean, could you try giving a unit 2 effect - target abilities and a custom morph ability? if it didn't crash for you, |
| 04:52.35 | Mindful` | yes |
| 04:52.39 | Fromethius | =O |
| 04:52.41 | Mindful` | the cook has had two forever |
| 04:52.43 | Fromethius | so it's the morph ability |
| 04:52.55 | wOlfLinG | Can anyone link me to a hero revive tutorial? |
| 04:52.58 | Mindful` | well, blizzard's morph abilities don't screw it up |
| 04:53.04 | Mindful` | unsure what's different about them from mine though |
| 04:53.11 | Fromethius | control click? |
| 04:53.26 | Mindful` | wat? |
| 04:53.31 | Mindful` | oh |
| 04:53.43 | Mindful` | it's nothing that obvious |
| 04:53.51 | Fromethius | ok |
| 04:53.52 | Fromethius | how about |
| 04:53.56 | Fromethius | you give it blizzard's morph ability |
| 04:53.57 | jokeR_ | can someone help me figure out why my trigger isnt working? |
| 04:54.01 | Fromethius | and see if it still happens |
| 04:54.29 | Mindful` | i did |
| 04:54.31 | Mindful` | and it didn't |
| 04:55.07 | Fromethius | joker_ we're going to need more than that lol |
| 04:55.07 | ShadowTiger | yeah i can help you joker |
| 04:55.08 | Mindful` | hmmm |
| 04:55.09 | jokeR_ | lol sorry |
| 04:55.09 | jokeR_ | ok |
| 04:55.10 | ShadowTiger | this is so stupid, about 75% of my map doesnt work anymore since phase 2 |
| 04:55.15 | Fromethius | my map worked almost flawlessly i was so thankful lol |
| 04:55.26 | jokeR_ | to whoever who wants\can help me |
| 04:56.00 | ShadowTiger | none of my attacks that use sets dont work... i have to look into this |
| 04:56.05 | Mindful` | there is ONE difference |
| 04:56.06 | Mindful` | let me try this |
| 04:56.08 | jokeR_ | im trying to re-create the map "Can You Stop 1 Unit" from SC\BW. Basically, i've got mostly everything down, except the minor details and the move trigger for the enemy unit. It spawns, and just sits there. |
| 04:56.24 | Mindful` | nvm |
| 04:56.25 | Mindful` | i lied |
| 04:56.27 | ShadowTiger | unit - issue order? |
| 04:56.29 | jokeR_ | yes |
| 04:56.37 | jokeR_ | got that. |
| 04:56.44 | jokeR_ | then i choose Last Created Unit |
| 04:56.49 | Mindful` | i don't see any big differences |
| 04:56.49 | ShadowTiger | um |
| 04:56.56 | ShadowTiger | when did you create the "last created unit" |
| 04:57.09 | jokeR_ | it spawns... |
| 04:57.17 | jokeR_ | on the left-hand side. |
| 04:57.19 | ShadowTiger | with unit - create unit facing angle? |
| 04:57.29 | jokeR_ | im using a point |
| 04:57.33 | jokeR_ | facing point 2 |
| 04:57.36 | ShadowTiger | okay |
| 04:57.47 | ShadowTiger | are you issuing the order immediatly the next step after creating the unit? |
| 04:57.54 | jokeR_ | yes |
| 04:58.03 | jokeR_ | its the second trigger in actions |
| 04:58.06 | ShadowTiger | then either your order is wrong the the target location of the order is bad |
| 04:58.06 | jokeR_ | right after create unit |
| 04:58.36 | Bifuu | anyone going to that MLG thing in raliegh? |
| 04:58.43 | jokeR_ | i dont live in NC :( |
| 04:59.09 | jokeR_ | and i dont have a vehicle atm |
| 04:59.25 | jokeR_ | ShadowTiger, both points on the map are valid |
| 04:59.30 | jokeR_ | i just made it spawn on the other side., |
| 04:59.34 | ShadowTiger | what is your order |
| 04:59.37 | ShadowTiger | "move" ? |
| 04:59.40 | jokeR_ | yep |
| 05:00.04 | Mindful` | ok well fromethius |
| 05:00.10 | Fromethius | lol |
| 05:00.19 | jokeR_ | well ill be.. |
| 05:00.21 | Mindful` | i made an exact copy of blizzard's ability |
| 05:00.31 | Mindful` | and it worked with 2 effect target abilities |
| 05:00.36 | jokeR_ | its working now.. |
| 05:00.39 | Fromethius | !!!!!!!!! |
| 05:00.48 | Fromethius | hallelujah! |
| 05:01.28 | Mindful` | unfortunately i still dont know what it is about blizzard's abilities |
| 05:01.31 | Mindful` | that allows them to coexist |
| 05:01.32 | Mindful` | D: |
| 05:01.43 | Fromethius | control click!!!! |
| 05:01.49 | Fromethius | you can do it |
| 05:01.57 | Mindful` | i did |
| 05:02.01 | Mindful` | it's nothing obvious |
| 05:02.04 | RodOfNOD | what is going wrong Mindful` ? |
| 05:02.05 | ShadowTiger | there isnt a move command that shows up in my editor : / |
| 05:02.07 | Mindful` | i think i'm going to have to go by field by field |
| 05:02.18 | jokeR_ | ShadowTiger, you chose the wrong action iirc |
| 05:02.58 | ShadowTiger | no i just forgot you have to click on the " ( " |
| 05:03.03 | Mindful` | rod, if a unit has two effect -target abilities and one of my custom morph and i try to run the game, it crashes :P |
| 05:03.24 | jokeR_ | hmm |
| 05:03.33 | jokeR_ | now i gotta figure out how to alternate the spawn locations |
| 05:03.42 | ShadowTiger | well you must be doing something wrong because thats what i do in my map and it works fine : D |
| 05:03.50 | Mindful` | wait, shadow, really? |
| 05:03.53 | jokeR_ | ShadowTiger, yeah i just did it, and it works |
| 05:03.58 | jokeR_ | wait |
| 05:04.03 | jokeR_ | who are you talking to :P |
| 05:04.05 | Mindful` | was that direct |
| 05:04.06 | ShadowTiger | i meant the issue order |
| 05:04.06 | Mindful` | yeah |
| 05:04.07 | Mindful` | rofl |
| 05:04.08 | jokeR_ | yeah |
| 05:04.12 | jokeR_ | i had to re-do it |
| 05:04.15 | jokeR_ | i messed something up. |
| 05:04.17 | jokeR_ | dunno what it was |
| 05:04.22 | jokeR_ | works now. |
| 05:04.27 | RodOfNOD | can u be a bit more specific Mindful` ? |
| 05:04.34 | ShadowTiger | that doesnt help me with my crippled map |
| 05:04.40 | ShadowTiger | im trying to decide if its even worth salvaging |
| 05:04.41 | jokeR_ | what are you working on? |
| 05:04.55 | ShadowTiger | i have a td with 10 towers and each tower has 6 upgrades |
| 05:05.08 | Mindful` | rod, you have all the information that i do |
| 05:05.14 | ShadowTiger | and now only 3 towers actually shoot |
| 05:05.23 | RodOfNOD | do u have a sample map? |
| 05:05.24 | ShadowTiger | and my hunter seeker missles dont fire |
| 05:05.37 | ShadowTiger | and my map crashes when i spawn units with a trigger |
| 05:05.59 | ShadowTiger | >_> all because i decided to make a map with the beta |
| 05:05.59 | Mindful` | actually |
| 05:06.02 | RodOfNOD | i dont get what u mean by custom morph |
| 05:06.05 | Mindful` | you could try it for yourself |
| 05:06.07 | Mindful` | and then |
| 05:06.08 | RodOfNOD | ok |
| 05:06.09 | Mindful` | i would know if it was just me |
| 05:06.12 | RodOfNOD | tell me exactly waht u did |
| 05:06.18 | jokeR_ | Shadow, that sucks man |
| 05:06.25 | Mindful` | ad 2 or more effect - target type abilities to a unit, both custom |
| 05:06.35 | Mindful` | now ad 1 or more custom morph abilities to the unit |
| 05:06.39 | Mindful` | a custom unit |
| 05:06.41 | Mindful` | see if your game crashes |
| 05:06.48 | ShadowTiger | even my marines dont shoot anymore its rediculous |
| 05:06.59 | jokeR_ | honestly, i'd say start over |
| 05:07.58 | Fromethius | ow |
| 05:08.11 | RodOfNOD | what did u base ur unit off of Mindful` ? |
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| 05:08.45 | rrowland | Anybody know how to make a keyboard press the same button rapidly when you hold it down? |
| 05:08.54 | Mindful` | uh |
| 05:08.58 | Mindful` | i recently changed its parent |
| 05:09.00 | RodOfNOD | what do mean exactly rrowland ? |
| 05:09.11 | Mindful` | it was originally based off of the ground unit spawned by the brood lord's launch attack |
| 05:09.16 | Mindful` | but i'm not sure the unit matters too much |
| 05:09.24 | rrowland | Like if I held space down, instead of sending keydown and waiting until I sent keyup |
| 05:09.34 | rrowland | It would send keydown/keyup rapidly while it was held down |
| 05:09.35 | RodOfNOD | do u mean u want to detect that? |
| 05:09.43 | rrowland | No I want it to do that |
| 05:09.47 | rrowland | Nothing to do with GE |
| 05:10.02 | RodOfNOD | u want to make a program that types for u? |
| 05:10.16 | ShadowTiger | does anyone know why all of my "set" effects have their "target - marker - link" set to "effect/MutaliskS1" and if thats causing a problem? |
| 05:10.54 | rrowland | I want to know how to set it up so when I hold down the space bar it acts like I'm tapping the spacebar really fast |
| 05:10.57 | rrowland | Instead of holding it down |
| 05:11.12 | mahashiro | hi everyone |
| 05:11.21 | mahashiro | do you guys know how to change rally points back to attack move |
| 05:11.23 | mahashiro | instead of move? |
| 05:11.31 | mahashiro | like it was before one of the patches |
| 05:11.40 | mahashiro | a map I was working on doesn't work now |
| 05:12.13 | RodOfNOD | it should do that automatically rrowland |
| 05:12.21 | rrowland | ? No |
| 05:12.28 | rrowland | When you hold down a key, it's held down |
| 05:12.37 | RodOfNOD | this is a space test see |
| 05:13.03 | rrowland | ... |
| 05:13.15 | rrowland | You don't get what I'm asking |
| 05:13.15 | RodOfNOD | Mindful`: i added a custom unit based on marine. i removed stimm and added the 2 abilities based opn efffect target and the 1 on morph i didnt add any cc stuff |
| 05:13.18 | RodOfNOD | no crash |
| 05:13.20 | RodOfNOD | i know :P |
| 05:13.30 | rrowland | Ever heard of a turbo key? |
| 05:13.34 | Mindful` | well |
| 05:13.38 | RodOfNOD | nope |
| 05:13.40 | Mindful` | i suppose that's comforting in that it means it's possible |
| 05:13.42 | ShadowTiger | yeah you can make that |
| 05:13.43 | Mindful` | for this to work |
| 05:13.59 | RodOfNOD | try making the stuff from scratch |
| 05:14.04 | RodOfNOD | or else remove one ability |
| 05:14.04 | ShadowTiger | you just set a global state flag to true when spacebar is pressed, set it to false when released |
| 05:14.07 | RodOfNOD | till it stops crashing |
| 05:14.16 | RodOfNOD | hes not talking GE |
| 05:14.24 | ShadowTiger | oh lol |
| 05:14.26 | RodOfNOD | at least he said he wasnt |
| 05:14.30 | Mindful` | i've tried removing/adding abilities, that's how i came up with the 2 effect - target and one morpjh |
| 05:14.32 | ShadowTiger | it doesnt matter |
| 05:14.37 | ShadowTiger | its the same thing either way : D |
| 05:14.48 | RodOfNOD | there is another issue shadow |
| 05:14.53 | RodOfNOD | u have to set a wait or a timer |
| 05:15.04 | RodOfNOD | or else u will cause issues |
| 05:15.12 | ShadowTiger | well yeah |
| 05:15.17 | ShadowTiger | that was what i was going to say next |
| 05:15.21 | RodOfNOD | ie wait 0.01 and then check for the down flag |
| 05:15.52 | RodOfNOD | i also added a wait of .03 before the first loop |
| 05:15.58 | RodOfNOD | so u didnt get too much of thissssss |
| 05:17.13 | rrowland | It's not the same thing at all |
| 05:17.19 | rrowland | It's used for games |
| 05:17.28 | Mindful` | mmm, rod, did your abilities have effects and/or units that they morphed into, and were they all custom? |
| 05:17.30 | rrowland | Games know when you hold buttons down and when you press them rapidly |
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| 05:17.37 | rrowland | There's a big diff |
| 05:17.40 | wOlfLinG | Is there a way to make an ability on a structure be able to be used by all allys of the owners? |
| 05:17.55 | RodOfNOD | all custom |
| 05:18.01 | RodOfNOD | i didnt pick any uynits |
| 05:18.06 | RodOfNOD | i just created off base templates |
| 05:18.15 | wOlfLinG | ie. I have 1 structure owned by player 1, but i want player 2 to be able to revive his heros from there |
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| 05:18.39 | rrowland | Have you played the lost vikings minigame in sc2 campaign? |
| 05:18.53 | Mindful` | try it with units |
| 05:19.27 | Mindful` | just in case it has any effect |
| 05:19.32 | Mindful` | idk at this point man, i'm desperate |
| 05:19.37 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:19.45 | RodOfNOD | send me the map if u can |
| 05:19.48 | ShadowTiger | wolfing look at the tower capture ability |
| 05:19.50 | RodOfNOD | ill be happy to try and help |
| 05:19.55 | ShadowTiger | its for xel naga watchtowers |
| 05:20.03 | wOlfLinG | I don't want it all to be able to be used |
| 05:20.15 | Mindful` | maybe rod |
| 05:20.21 | RodOfNOD | wOlfLinG: u can do anything with triggers |
| 05:20.22 | Mindful` | give me a little bit more time to ram my face into the wall |
| 05:20.26 | wOlfLinG | I want to have player 1 be able to revive only player 1's hero, player 2 to revive player 2's etc |
| 05:20.30 | RodOfNOD | k |
| 05:20.34 | Dimmondback | can I help you with that? Mindful? |
| 05:20.35 | Mindful` | i appreciate the offer though, and i might take you up on it later :P |
| 05:20.35 | wOlfLinG | I'm doing it via data >:( |
| 05:20.36 | ShadowTiger | you can just make it so it only works for allies |
| 05:20.41 | ShadowTiger | it will do what you want it to do |
| 05:21.14 | RodOfNOD | is therre a way to revive now without uysing triggers? |
| 05:21.18 | ShadowTiger | i think.... |
| 05:21.23 | wOlfLinG | yeah |
| 05:21.27 | wOlfLinG | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4705-data-editor-revive-heroes/#reply |
| 05:21.43 | Mindful` | wait |
| 05:21.47 | Mindful` | is there a way to revive using triggers? |
| 05:22.03 | Mindful` | (other than create unit and transfer stuff) |
| 05:22.46 | ShadowTiger | i don't think there is a place where dead units are stored... that seems inefficient |
| 05:23.04 | RodOfNOD | tthere is a reviveunit function |
| 05:23.31 | Mindful` | is it only available through galaxy? |
| 05:23.33 | Mindful` | i don't see it in GUI |
| 05:24.50 | WildFire_ | hey I need help with setting up a timer |
| 05:25.08 | RodOfNOD | UnitRevive ( unit ) |
| 05:25.24 | RodOfNOD | its not in gui |
| 05:25.31 | ShadowTiger | interesting |
| 05:25.33 | Mindful` | oho |
| 05:25.36 | ShadowTiger | where did you find this? |
| 05:25.36 | Mindful` | very interesting |
| 05:25.41 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/legend-zealot/. Legend of Zealot. BillyMays (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 05:25.47 | RodOfNOD | its been known for a month or 2 i think |
| 05:25.54 | RodOfNOD | its in the natives |
| 05:26.00 | ShadowTiger | are you sure he didnt define a function called "unitRevive" |
| 05:26.05 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 05:26.07 | ShadowTiger | k |
| 05:26.43 | Mindful` | yeh, just checked |
| 05:26.47 | Mindful` | its definitely a function |
| 05:26.51 | RodOfNOD | :> |
| 05:26.51 | ShadowTiger | cool |
| 05:27.11 | ShadowTiger | so that does everything you could want for reviving units? |
| 05:27.45 | RodOfNOD | ik about everything |
| 05:27.51 | RodOfNOD | but it brings back the same dead unit |
| 05:27.58 | RodOfNOD | u have to oad items back on |
| 05:27.59 | RodOfNOD | load |
| 05:28.04 | RodOfNOD | cuz those drop |
| 05:28.06 | Mindful` | will it keep variable assignments? |
| 05:28.07 | RodOfNOD | at least they did before gold |
| 05:28.13 | RodOfNOD | i THINK so |
| 05:28.16 | RodOfNOD | i havent tested |
| 05:28.23 | RodOfNOD | things like control 1 should stay on it |
| 05:28.33 | RodOfNOD | thats what really matters |
| 05:29.45 | Mindful` | ok so |
| 05:29.50 | Mindful` | 2 effect - target abilities and morph work |
| 05:29.56 | Mindful` | up until i make the morph morph into my unit |
| 05:29.56 | Mindful` | D: |
| 05:29.57 | RodOfNOD | :> |
| 05:30.09 | RodOfNOD | so remove the target abilkities |
| 05:30.11 | RodOfNOD | and see what happens |
| 05:30.28 | Mindful` | well, then it works |
| 05:30.36 | Mindful` | but i need it to be able to have both of them D: |
| 05:30.36 | RodOfNOD | if u remove either one>? |
| 05:30.51 | Technomancer | hey im here now. was in a call |
| 05:30.55 | RodOfNOD | or just both or what? |
| 05:31.01 | Mindful` | either one |
| 05:31.12 | RodOfNOD | interesting |
| 05:31.18 | RodOfNOD | how bout u add those abilities to the morphed unit |
| 05:31.27 | Mindful` | the effect - target abilities? |
| 05:31.31 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 05:31.40 | RodOfNOD | make sure both the morph original and target are the same |
| 05:31.46 | RodOfNOD | as far as those abilities |
| 05:31.52 | Mindful` | ok |
| 05:31.55 | RodOfNOD | did u add a morph back ability? |
| 05:31.56 | Mindful` | will try that |
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| 05:31.58 | Mindful` | though it seems like |
| 05:31.59 | Mindful` | no |
| 05:32.06 | Mindful` | it's evolution - you go forward, and don't go back :P |
| 05:32.08 | RodOfNOD | try that too |
| 05:32.12 | RodOfNOD | just in case its required |
| 05:32.17 | RodOfNOD | then u can remove it off the cc |
| 05:32.27 | Mindful` | hrm |
| 05:32.32 | RodOfNOD | or remove it after he upgrades |
| 05:32.36 | RodOfNOD | via trigger |
| 05:32.53 | Sixen | Anyone have any idea where the cheat code constants are in the game files? |
| 05:32.58 | RodOfNOD | these are the types of bugs that we run into when we deal with this shit |
| 05:33.10 | RodOfNOD | sizen if u can export |
| 05:33.14 | RodOfNOD | sixen |
| 05:33.19 | RodOfNOD | export using winpq |
| 05:33.23 | RodOfNOD | winmpq |
| 05:33.27 | RodOfNOD | then u can search for the word cheat |
| 05:33.33 | RodOfNOD | and i beat u will find it in the gamestrings |
| 05:33.37 | RodOfNOD | or one of those text files |
| 05:33.43 | RodOfNOD | i cant cuz im on my mac |
| 05:33.45 | Technomancer | "[00:28] <Technomancer> From: Another obviously noob question; when I copy and paste a unit, I lose the model, textures and unit displays [00:29] <ShadowTiger> technomancer, you need to copy paste the actor and make it point to your new unit" |
| 05:33.50 | Sixen | winmpq searches within fles? |
| 05:33.55 | Technomancer | im unable to copy the Actor field |
| 05:33.59 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 05:34.04 | RodOfNOD | but u extract the files to a folder |
| 05:34.10 | RodOfNOD | and then use ur OS to search |
| 05:34.21 | RodOfNOD | why cant u copy the actor? |
| 05:34.31 | ekcolnovkol | hey sixen |
| 05:34.37 | ekcolnovkol | did you talk to the folks at curse :U |
| 05:34.41 | ShadowTiger | i think i need to add some dependencies to my map |
| 05:34.59 | rrowland | pretty sure windows doesnt search through files |
| 05:34.59 | ShadowTiger | the marine combat shield ability doesn't show up anymore... |
| 05:35.02 | rrowland | like unix does |
| 05:35.03 | RodOfNOD | if u do make sure u put them FIRST not 3rd or ull have issues |
| 05:35.09 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:35.11 | RodOfNOD | it does |
| 05:35.15 | RodOfNOD | u just hae to have it set right |
| 05:35.18 | RodOfNOD | i use it all the time |
| 05:35.26 | Technomancer | RodofNOD, if I knew I wouldnt be asking :P |
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| 05:35.40 | RodOfNOD | no i mean |
| 05:35.44 | RodOfNOD | tell me exactly what u do |
| 05:36.01 | Sixen | rodofnod, which do I extract? :( |
| 05:36.04 | RodOfNOD | pick a unit and right click and hit add object then what |
| 05:36.10 | RodOfNOD | thats the tricky part sixen |
| 05:36.19 | RodOfNOD | im still working on that i extracted every mpq i could find |
| 05:36.22 | Sixen | I checked in... both .SC2Campaign data packs and the Core |
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| 05:36.39 | Lightning | hellooo~ :D |
| 05:37.07 | Fromethius | hi |
| 05:37.27 | Lightning | anyone here from australia? |
| 05:37.31 | RodOfNOD | did u go into the MOD folder Sixen ? |
| 05:37.42 | Sixen | yse |
| 05:37.52 | RodOfNOD | and u extracted every mpq u could find? |
| 05:37.57 | Fromethius | ~seen prozaicmuze |
| 05:37.59 | purl | prozaicmuze <~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 5h 14m 12s ago, saying: 'rrowland was likely on crack for whatever bug he encountered'. |
| 05:38.19 | RodOfNOD | including files like sc2assests and data? |
| 05:38.20 | Fromethius | blargh |
| 05:38.22 | Fromethius | i have actor troubles! |
| 05:38.35 | RodOfNOD | i want to make a calvin and hobbes game |
| 05:38.40 | RodOfNOD | and not some cheesy td |
| 05:38.50 | RodOfNOD | but a game that would be in the spirit of c and h |
| 05:38.54 | Sixen | mhmm |
| 05:38.54 | Fromethius | anyone know how to make an actor only work for a specific unit? (soundoneshot) |
| 05:38.58 | Sixen | checked for .galaxy fies |
| 05:39.10 | RodOfNOD | im pretty sure what ur looking for isnt galaxy |
| 05:39.26 | Sixen | hrm? Don't think so? |
| 05:39.31 | Sixen | There are other constants within galaxy files. |
| 05:39.36 | RodOfNOD | nope cuz those are langauge files |
| 05:39.47 | RodOfNOD | yes but cheats in wc3 were not part of the compiler |
| 05:39.55 | RodOfNOD | they were in gamestrings if i recall |
| 05:39.58 | RodOfNOD | a text file |
| 05:39.59 | RodOfNOD | basically |
| 05:40.07 | Fromethius | i have 3 different actors, all of which play a zergling, zealot, and marine attack sound effect, respectively. however, they all play from the same ability being used (they all share this ability) so all 3 sound effects are played at once when a unit uses this ability. any ideas? |
| 05:40.21 | rrowland | Are they actually translated to different languages? |
| 05:40.26 | Sixen | I dunno |
| 05:40.30 | Technomancer | well I extracted n othing, I didnt go into raw or anything, just in the dropdown section, I tried copying the actors section |
| 05:40.37 | WildFire_ | hey I need help figuring out how to get my timer to work I get the timer box to show up but I can not get it to count |
| 05:40.41 | rrowland | Like in some country the terribleterribledamage cheat is durkadurkamuhammadjihad? |
| 05:40.44 | Lightning | anyone here from australia and wants to help me with a map :D |
| 05:40.55 | Mindful` | fromethius what do you want to happen? only one to play? |
| 05:40.59 | RodOfNOD | add a new sound actor maybe? |
| 05:41.00 | Fromethius | yes |
| 05:41.08 | Mindful` | make it one sound actor |
| 05:41.12 | Mindful` | make a custom sound |
| 05:41.14 | RodOfNOD | good ? rrowland i dont think they were in wc3 not sure |
| 05:41.19 | Mindful` | add the sound files to the custom sound |
| 05:41.26 | RodOfNOD | but if they are then they will be in local files |
| 05:41.33 | Mindful` | either use 1 of each or an equal number, it will automatically balance the chance out |
| 05:41.44 | Fromethius | lol that's not what i mean |
| 05:41.58 | Fromethius | the zergling, zealot, and marine all share an ability (gather) |
| 05:42.10 | Mindful` | you want a different sound to play per unit? |
| 05:42.13 | Fromethius | when the zergling gathers i want it to play the zergling attack sound |
| 05:42.16 | Mindful` | ah |
| 05:42.19 | Fromethius | etc. |
| 05:42.20 | Mindful` | you want the actor event |
| 05:42.21 | Sixen | I doubt they'll be localized. |
| 05:42.21 | Mindful` | validate unit |
| 05:42.25 | Mindful` | er |
| 05:42.26 | Mindful` | actor term |
| 05:42.29 | Mindful` | sorry, i'm tired |
| 05:42.29 | RodOfNOD | i agree sixen but idk |
| 05:42.33 | Fromethius | yeah i saw that |
| 05:42.33 | Sixen | They're written like this: const int c_gameCheatEventAny = -1; |
| 05:42.44 | Fromethius | you have to write a custom validator? |
| 05:42.53 | Mindful` | i would |
| 05:42.56 | Fromethius | bleh figured. i already had this much figured out =p |
| 05:43.03 | Fromethius | was wondering if there was a better way |
| 05:43.04 | Mindful` | there's also a validate unit actor term, but idk how that really works |
| 05:43.04 | Fromethius | alright thanks |
| 05:43.10 | Mindful` | so, i've figured out that |
| 05:43.26 | Mindful` | the limitation on morph abilities only seems to occur if the unit you can morph into, can morph into other units |
| 05:43.37 | Fromethius | while true loop |
| 05:43.54 | Fromethius | oh |
| 05:43.55 | Fromethius | damn |
| 05:43.59 | Fromethius | i think i just realized your problem |
| 05:44.07 | Mindful` | i am beginning to suspect that there is a maximum amount of information per unit, and that any morph abilities merge all the info from all those units |
| 05:44.09 | Mindful` | :OO |
| 05:44.11 | Mindful` | what? |
| 05:44.18 | Fromethius | ok well |
| 05:44.23 | Fromethius | i had this problem too with morphs |
| 05:44.27 | Mindful` | wait, really? |
| 05:44.28 | Fromethius | i probably should have brought this up earlier |
| 05:44.29 | Mindful` | with crashes? |
| 05:44.33 | Fromethius | no, it didn't crash |
| 05:44.36 | Mindful` | D: |
| 05:44.37 | RodOfNOD | maybe this will help Sixen : http://blizzard-gaming.blogspot.com/2010/07/starcraft-2-single-player-cheat-codes.html |
| 05:44.39 | Fromethius | but i think your problem might have to do with actors |
| 05:44.46 | Mindful` | what was the problem? |
| 05:45.01 | Fromethius | my supply depot was borked because the initial actors assumed there would only be one supply depot morph ability |
| 05:45.09 | Fromethius | so it used abilmorph.*.start |
| 05:45.12 | Fromethius | notice the asterick |
| 05:45.24 | Mindful` | all of my actor events have morphfrom or morphto terms |
| 05:45.27 | Fromethius | hwoever, when i introduced another morph (morph to advanced supply depot) |
| 05:45.40 | Mindful` | sorry |
| 05:45.40 | Mindful` | D: |
| 05:45.41 | RodOfNOD | i dont think those are actually the same cheats as the link i just game u with the constants |
| 05:45.42 | Fromethius | then the asterick conflicted with morph to advanced supply depot and the morph to supply depot burrowed |
| 05:45.58 | Sixen | they are |
| 05:46.03 | Sixen | but they have constants |
| 05:46.04 | Fromethius | i don't know if that helps you at all |
| 05:46.08 | Mindful` | * means anything, but i've got terms to prevent weird stuff from happening |
| 05:46.15 | Fromethius | maybe |
| 05:46.21 | Fromethius | but it seems like an infinite loop is occuring? |
| 05:46.21 | Technomancer | no way |
| 05:46.25 | Fromethius | why else a crash? |
| 05:46.27 | Mindful` | nah, it was a good idea, but the terms i have on actor events are preventing that from happening |
| 05:46.29 | Fromethius | maybe it runs out of memory? |
| 05:46.29 | Mindful` | well, i'm not sure |
| 05:46.34 | Mindful` | but it seems like if that were the problem |
| 05:46.36 | Mindful` | it would occur post-morph |
| 05:46.37 | Fromethius | is it a delayed crash? |
| 05:46.40 | Fromethius | or does it happen immediately? |
| 05:46.40 | RodOfNOD | did that link i gave u help Sixen ? |
| 05:46.41 | Mindful` | no, it crashes while loading |
| 05:46.45 | Mindful` | like, before the game even finishes loading |
| 05:46.50 | Fromethius | hm |
| 05:47.04 | Fromethius | wait |
| 05:47.06 | Sixen | no, :P. |
| 05:47.08 | Fromethius | the unit that the unit morphs in to |
| 05:47.09 | RodOfNOD | mindful change ur MORPH to happen 10 seconds into the game |
| 05:47.14 | RodOfNOD | thats not what u wanted>? |
| 05:47.14 | Sixen | I need to find the cheat code constants within the files |
| 05:47.16 | Fromethius | does that unit have a morph that morphs in to another unit that has a morph? |
| 05:47.21 | Fromethius | (lol) |
| 05:47.23 | Mindful` | yes |
| 05:47.24 | Sixen | I want to know which file has the constants in it |
| 05:47.28 | Fromethius | so it goes on forever |
| 05:47.34 | Mindful` | and rod, the morph doesn't happen at map init |
| 05:47.35 | Fromethius | you probably confused the game |
| 05:47.40 | Fromethius | might be an editor bug |
| 05:47.41 | Mindful` | well |
| 05:47.42 | Mindful` | it goes |
| 05:47.48 | Mindful` | unit-->unit-->unit |
| 05:47.52 | Fromethius | oh. |
| 05:47.53 | Mindful` | there is a finite number of units |
| 05:48.01 | Fromethius | the 3rd unit cannot morph? |
| 05:48.08 | Mindful` | eventually it will be unit-->unit-->unit-->unit, but right now, the 3rd one can't morph |
| 05:48.13 | RodOfNOD | ur saying it rcrashes at melee init and yet ur not morphing at init? |
| 05:48.20 | Mindful` | at loadscreen, yes |
| 05:48.26 | RodOfNOD | i find that hard to believe |
| 05:48.30 | Fromethius | ..? |
| 05:48.31 | RodOfNOD | but if true |
| 05:48.33 | Mindful` | you want me to stream it? |
| 05:48.36 | RodOfNOD | then that means its the actual data |
| 05:48.37 | RodOfNOD | sure |
| 05:48.45 | RodOfNOD | just send me the damn map |
| 05:48.45 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 05:48.48 | Fromethius | you think he's lying about his game crashing on the loading screen? |
| 05:48.51 | Mindful` | i'm paranoid |
| 05:48.55 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:48.55 | Mindful` | let me stream it |
| 05:48.57 | RodOfNOD | lying no |
| 05:49.05 | RodOfNOD | ive looked at lots of maps |
| 05:49.12 | RodOfNOD | hell i had dota allstars unprogected |
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| 05:49.15 | RodOfNOD | from icefrog |
| 05:49.21 | RodOfNOD | u can trust me not to give it out |
| 05:49.23 | RodOfNOD | but up to u |
| 05:49.26 | Mindful` | eh |
| 05:49.27 | Mindful` | alright |
| 05:49.28 | Mindful` | sec |
| 05:49.38 | Fromethius | i have some candy in my van mindful |
| 05:49.42 | Fromethius | you're free to come get some |
| 05:49.45 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:49.46 | Mindful` | D: |
| 05:49.49 | Mindful` | you would make this harder |
| 05:49.52 | Mindful` | :( |
| 05:49.53 | Fromethius | i've given candy to tons of young kids before |
| 05:49.55 | RodOfNOD | hes not interested in ur candy canes |
| 05:50.04 | Fromethius | i've even given candy to barack obama |
| 05:50.06 | Mittsies | this trigger is activating itself. how to fix. http://pastebin.com/QSawHhRb (it's a trigger to uncheck all other checkboxes in its horizontal row) |
| 05:50.07 | Fromethius | you can trust me |
| 05:50.18 | Fromethius | haha jp |
| 05:50.51 | RodOfNOD | mittsies |
| 05:50.56 | Mittsies | yeah? |
| 05:50.56 | RodOfNOD | i dont even have to look at ur code |
| 05:51.03 | RodOfNOD | u need to use customvalue |
| 05:51.10 | RodOfNOD | and assign that to a value from 1-48 |
| 05:51.20 | Mittsies | wat |
| 05:51.21 | RodOfNOD | then u dont have to search for which one it is |
| 05:51.35 | Mittsies | the first part (the two loops) works fine for searching |
| 05:51.43 | Mittsies | the Z loop is what is messing up |
| 05:52.09 | RodOfNOD | yes but im making ur code better |
| 05:52.11 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:52.12 | Mittsies | (Also what you just said makes absolutely no sense. just saying) |
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| 05:52.20 | RodOfNOD | if u assign the current value right when u make the items |
| 05:52.23 | RodOfNOD | then u dont have to earch |
| 05:52.30 | Mittsies | ...that makes no sense but okay |
| 05:52.35 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:52.42 | Mittsies | so about the z-loop |
| 05:52.48 | RodOfNOD | when u make the dialog item for item 1-1 |
| 05:53.12 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.15 | RodOfNOD | right after that |
| 05:53.20 | Lightning | how do i import librarys? |
| 05:53.21 | RodOfNOD | assign the first one to= 1.0 |
| 05:53.23 | RodOfNOD | then 2.0 |
| 05:53.25 | Mindful` | rod, the error it gives on loadscreen is this: |
| 05:53.26 | Mindful` | ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xC0000005) |
| 05:53.26 | Mindful` | occurred at 001B:0099A3F3. The memory at '0x00000000' could not be read. |
| 05:53.29 | RodOfNOD | then all th eway iup to 48 |
| 05:53.30 | Mittsies | no. then I lose my row/column information. |
| 05:53.36 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:53.40 | RodOfNOD | no u dont |
| 05:53.52 | Mittsies | yeah, I do. |
| 05:53.53 | Mindful` | er, on the error after the loadscreen |
| 05:53.57 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:54.02 | RodOfNOD | take the value u get say 5 |
| 05:54.07 | RodOfNOD | 5/4 = 1 |
| 05:54.11 | RodOfNOD | and u have 5 mod 4 = 1 |
| 05:54.12 | RodOfNOD | ie 1,1 |
| 05:54.16 | RodOfNOD | trust me |
| 05:54.20 | RodOfNOD | way bettter than what ur doing |
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| 05:55.30 | RodOfNOD | Mittsies: what is the goal of ur trigger |
| 05:55.36 | Mindful` | rod, how do you want me to send you this map? |
| 05:55.45 | Mittsies | I already said that (it's a trigger to uncheck all other checkboxes in its horizontal row) |
| 05:55.47 | RodOfNOD | just post it on a file upload site |
| 05:55.51 | RodOfNOD | and pm me the link |
| 05:55.52 | Mindful` | aight |
| 05:56.16 | RodOfNOD | so is it 4 acrosss or 12 across? |
| 05:56.17 | eldragon0 | yay my sunk D's playable in one player :3 |
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| 05:56.24 | RodOfNOD | congrats |
| 05:56.52 | RodOfNOD | Mittsies: ? |
| 05:57.51 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 05:57.52 | Mittsies | Are you trolling me or what |
| 05:57.55 | RodOfNOD | i know ur problem |
| 05:57.57 | RodOfNOD | dear god |
| 05:58.05 | RodOfNOD | why do people think i am trolling when im helping |
| 05:58.09 | RodOfNOD | NO I M NOT TROLLING |
| 05:58.12 | RodOfNOD | and i know ur problem |
| 05:58.15 | RodOfNOD | but i need to KNOW what u want |
| 05:58.16 | Mittsies | Okay, what's the problem |
| 05:58.19 | RodOfNOD | to properly answer |
| 05:58.20 | RodOfNOD | im asking |
| 05:58.24 | RodOfNOD | is it 4 wide or 12 wide |
| 05:58.34 | Mittsies | 4 wide 12 wide |
| 05:58.38 | Mittsies | 12 tall* |
| 05:58.49 | RodOfNOD | k well |
| 05:58.52 | Mittsies | you'd know if you read the code. |
| 05:59.08 | Mittsies | (eg. glanced) |
| 05:59.15 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 05:59.22 | RodOfNOD | i learned a long time ago not to assume |
| 05:59.36 | eldragon0 | +1 @ rod |
| 05:59.46 | RodOfNOD | so lets pretend u have this |
| 05:59.55 | RodOfNOD | 0000 |
| 05:59.57 | RodOfNOD | top row |
| 06:00.04 | RodOfNOD | and the player clicks on top left |
| 06:00.10 | RodOfNOD | so u want to se 1000 is that correct? |
| 06:00.17 | RodOfNOD | 1 = checked |
| 06:00.21 | RodOfNOD | 0 = not checked |
| 06:00.23 | Mittsies | yes |
| 06:00.32 | RodOfNOD | ok now player number 2 clicks top right |
| 06:00.37 | RodOfNOD | do u want it to now be 0001 |
| 06:00.46 | Mittsies | yep. |
| 06:01.58 | RodOfNOD | are u 100% sjure u dont have any other events : Dialog - Any Dialog Item is used by Player Any Player with event type Checked |
| 06:02.18 | wOlfLinG | Woot! Working revival! |
| 06:02.18 | Mittsies | 100%. |
| 06:02.24 | wOlfLinG | Half triggers, half data ^^ |
| 06:02.33 | RodOfNOD | cuz what u have appears to work |
| 06:02.51 | Mittsies | Uh, yeah, I know. |
| 06:02.52 | RodOfNOD | and ur saying ur issue is u are having it check automagically? |
| 06:03.03 | RodOfNOD | with 1 player or more than 1 player or both? |
| 06:03.22 | Mittsies | it basically runs 3 additional times |
| 06:03.26 | Mittsies | effectively unchecking everything |
| 06:03.49 | RodOfNOD | but u wanted it to uncheck everything |
| 06:03.56 | RodOfNOD | do u mean vertically it unchecks shit? |
| 06:03.59 | Mittsies | No |
| 06:04.02 | Mittsies | only Horizontally |
| 06:04.17 | RodOfNOD | show me in 0001 |
| 06:04.18 | RodOfNOD | what it does |
| 06:04.22 | RodOfNOD | lets say u have 1000 |
| 06:04.24 | RodOfNOD | and u click top right |
| 06:04.27 | RodOfNOD | what will it show |
| 06:04.28 | Lightning | anyone intrested in helping me make a map? |
| 06:05.07 | Mittsies | all situations will end up in 0000 |
| 06:05.19 | RodOfNOD | so u never get to 1000 then? |
| 06:05.55 | RodOfNOD | ok try this |
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| 06:06.19 | RodOfNOD | debug text the values for q and w Mittsies |
| 06:06.25 | RodOfNOD | after u do the first loop |
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| 06:07.02 | RodOfNOD | also put a debug message at the very beginning of the trigger |
| 06:07.09 | RodOfNOD | to see if this trigger is truely running 4 times |
| 06:07.12 | RodOfNOD | for everytime u hit it |
| 06:08.21 | RodOfNOD | ah ha i see a problem for sure Mittsies |
| 06:08.29 | RodOfNOD | that event detects both checking and unchecking |
| 06:08.41 | RodOfNOD | atm u are only treating it as if it only detects checking |
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| 06:08.53 | mittsies_ | huh |
| 06:09.15 | RodOfNOD | Dialog - Any Dialog Item is used by Player Any Player with event type Checked - fires both if u click it and there is a check or if its not checked |
| 06:09.38 | RodOfNOD | at least im prettyu sure it would as there is no uncheck event option |
| 06:09.45 | RodOfNOD | :P{ |
| 06:09.48 | mittsies_ | right |
| 06:09.59 | mittsies_ | that's what I had already came to for a conclusion |
| 06:10.13 | RodOfNOD | that however should let u check it the first time |
| 06:10.25 | mittsies_ | it does let it check for the first time |
| 06:10.32 | RodOfNOD | well u didnt say that |
| 06:10.35 | RodOfNOD | sigh |
| 06:10.49 | RodOfNOD | well there is ur problem |
| 06:10.51 | mittsies_ | you click again anywhere and it unchecks everything |
| 06:11.24 | RodOfNOD | first off get rid of this dumb for loop u dont need it |
| 06:11.33 | RodOfNOD | its just clogging up the brain cells |
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| 06:11.53 | mittsies_ | Yes, I do need it. |
| 06:11.59 | RodOfNOD | the 2nd one |
| 06:12.02 | RodOfNOD | not the first one |
| 06:12.07 | mittsies_ | stop pestering me about a part of the code that isn't even relevant. |
| 06:12.13 | RodOfNOD | but fine dont learn how to write better code |
| 06:12.21 | mittsies_ | great, I won't. |
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| 06:17.49 | mittsies_ | Done trolling? alright, I'll figure this out myself then. |
| 06:18.14 | RodOfNOD | mittsies_: u realize im WRITING the code for u |
| 06:18.18 | RodOfNOD | but since u want to be 12 |
| 06:18.23 | RodOfNOD | and think that people dont want to help |
| 06:18.25 | RodOfNOD | then bite me |
| 06:19.02 | mittsies_ | if you're gonna try to unnecessarily rewrite irrelevant parts of the code then you're not helping |
| 06:19.24 | RodOfNOD | since u wont give me ur code i have to rewrite it |
| 06:19.32 | mittsies_ | I already gave it to you |
| 06:19.37 | mittsies_ | what the hell are you talking about |
| 06:19.38 | RodOfNOD | and if im gonna rewrite it i will fix it |
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| 06:28.37 | got_Ammo | is there some kind of trick to getting custom loading screen tips to work? I've changed the Loading Screen Help+ field in the Game UI Data part of the object editor, but it isn't working |
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| 06:41.38 | Grum | i'm getting the feeling that making some sort of 'cookbook' page and sample maps would be useful :p |
| 06:43.20 | mittsies_ | Yeah. |
| 06:43.28 | mittsies_ | I can see that being really helpful |
| 06:44.40 | RodOfNOD | how old are u mittsies>? |
| 06:45.03 | mittsies_ | That's a totally irrelevant question -- as usual |
| 06:45.12 | RodOfNOD | well ur acting12 |
| 06:45.14 | ekcolnovkol | how old is your mother |
| 06:45.18 | ekcolnovkol | o .o |
| 06:45.29 | RodOfNOD | my mom is 76 |
| 06:45.40 | RodOfNOD | omg no shes 78 now |
| 06:46.04 | RodOfNOD | it appears tht we have an old wc3 bug |
| 06:46.19 | mittsies_ | the only issue is that the script refires off of itself due to unchecking |
| 06:46.29 | kruno | guys, I have a little rule, when I work with people, I make sure I am able to speak with them overr a phone, skype or something more personal than IRC. When you know someone personally, you behave differently towards them. ;) |
| 06:46.58 | mittsies_ | I've fixed half the problem by adding a condition that checks if the used check button is unchecked or not. |
| 06:46.58 | RodOfNOD | that is the only issue u have |
| 06:47.20 | RodOfNOD | the issue is u refuse to lisen to people that have been coding for 30 years and are trying to help u |
| 06:47.25 | RodOfNOD | anyways i resolved ur issue |
| 06:47.37 | mittsies_ | Enlighten me |
| 06:47.51 | RodOfNOD | uploading file |
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| 06:49.35 | RodOfNOD | http://www.mediafire.com/file/vba8wzpn0x4zu1l/dialog.SC2Map |
| 06:49.57 | RodOfNOD | sometimes there are bugs where it will refire the trigger when u turn the trigger back on |
| 06:50.11 | RodOfNOD | usually you can resolve these with a small wait before u turn it on |
| 06:50.19 | mittsies_ | oh cool, thanks. |
| 06:50.25 | RodOfNOD | however if u want to learn to write better code then look at the map i made |
| 06:50.45 | RodOfNOD | .4 secs seemed to work |
| 06:50.48 | RodOfNOD | .04 |
| 06:50.55 | RodOfNOD | damn no .4 |
| 06:51.07 | RodOfNOD | Mindful`: wtf are u? |
| 06:51.52 | mittsies_ | 0.1 works fine |
| 06:52.00 | mittsies_ | you could have just told me that instead of rewriting the code |
| 06:52.04 | RodOfNOD | when i wacked on it fast |
| 06:52.06 | RodOfNOD | i could fuck it |
| 06:52.08 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 06:52.10 | RodOfNOD | well no i couldnt |
| 06:52.14 | RodOfNOD | cuz i had to test it |
| 06:52.17 | RodOfNOD | and since i didnt have ur code |
| 06:52.19 | RodOfNOD | i had to write it |
| 06:52.23 | mittsies_ | yeah |
| 06:52.24 | mittsies_ | thanks |
| 06:52.26 | RodOfNOD | and im not gonna waste my time writing shit code |
| 06:52.27 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 06:52.29 | RodOfNOD | yw |
| 06:52.33 | mittsies_ | since you took your time to write it I'll have a look |
| 06:53.08 | RodOfNOD | Mindful`: are y alive? |
| 06:53.16 | RodOfNOD | cuz i want to zzzzzzzzzz |
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| 07:00.10 | ShadowTiger | okay i officially give up on my map : / |
| 07:00.45 | ShadowTiger | f*** blizzard for wasting my time |
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| 07:08.15 | kruno | good news everyone, valve are re-releasing starcraft 2 |
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| 07:13.33 | mittsies_ | shadowtiger |
| 07:13.36 | mittsies_ | what kind of map is it? |
| 07:14.05 | ShadowTiger | td |
| 07:14.58 | ShadowTiger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn3DQvu5M54 |
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| 07:36.37 | Dogmai | does anyone know if it is possible to do, on key event (pressed key) press dialog button |
| 07:36.41 | Dogmai | like hotkey for dialog buttons |
| 07:37.38 | Lilianna | I did it |
| 07:37.44 | Lilianna | I had the dialogue event |
| 07:37.47 | Lilianna | that ran when pressed |
| 07:37.53 | Lilianna | and I had a key even trigger |
| 07:37.59 | Lilianna | that ran the dialogue event also |
| 07:38.01 | Lilianna | as a redirect |
| 07:38.07 | Lilianna | event* |
| 07:39.37 | Dogmai | I meant as when you press a key it presses a dialog button, not as a redirect, but physically pushes down the botton |
| 07:39.47 | Dogmai | button |
| 07:39.57 | Lilianna | I would say to that, nope |
| 07:40.26 | Dogmai | Thats a shame, i thought of a work around that similar to what you said, that would also change the image of the dialog to fake a mouse click |
| 07:40.37 | Dogmai | But I was hoping there would be a simplier way to do it |
| 07:42.08 | Lilianna | as far as Ive heard, there is no hotkey settings for dialogue menus, which is something people want |
| 07:43.19 | Dogmai | yeah |
| 07:44.06 | Dogmai | That and the ability to add the minimap into a dialogue |
| 07:44.16 | Dogmai | Without the screenshot workaround |
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| 07:45.10 | Rodrigo | Hey guyz |
| 07:45.33 | Rodrigo | I'm hosting "Debates" 8pm tomorrow (pacific time). If someone wants to play... |
| 07:45.55 | Rodrigo | just add me and I call you to the game. char: Rodrigo Id: 881 |
| 07:46.19 | Rodrigo | ;) |
| 07:46.20 | Dogmai | Its kind of sad we have to use IRC to organise games |
| 07:46.28 | Rodrigo | yeah |
| 07:46.30 | Rodrigo | I know |
| 07:46.33 | Dogmai | Like srsly |
| 07:46.36 | Rodrigo | stupid popularity system |
| 07:46.37 | Dogmai | 1995 ftw |
| 07:46.40 | Rodrigo | no chat rooms |
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| 07:47.14 | Rodrigo | I will record the game and put on youtube. |
| 07:47.24 | Rodrigo | if someone wants to play, add me. Rodrigo. Id: 881 |
| 07:47.31 | Rodrigo | :) |
| 07:49.43 | Lilianna | A nice alphabetical list would be nice |
| 07:51.00 | Rodrigo | I'm still trying to understand the mind of the creators of battle.net 0.2 |
| 07:51.12 | Rodrigo | what the f**** they had in mind |
| 07:51.51 | Rodrigo | I just can't believe they tought that the popularity system would work. And the worse is that the first version you could just bump your maps. |
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| 07:52.04 | ShadowTiger | rofl battle.net 0.2 |
| 07:52.31 | Rodrigo | I still like the first version, though. Half hour bumping your map and it is popular forever |
| 07:52.54 | Rodrigo | most of the maps that were popular by bumping during beta is popular today |
| 07:53.07 | ShadowTiger | we need to organize 1000 guest passes |
| 07:53.15 | ShadowTiger | and bump our maps over a 5 hour period |
| 07:53.23 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 07:53.36 | Rodrigo | you could even charge for publicity |
| 07:53.41 | ShadowTiger | yeah |
| 07:54.06 | Rodrigo | people would pay $200/hour for you to bump sponsor videos every day |
| 07:54.42 | Rodrigo | and still possible |
| 07:54.59 | Rodrigo | if you buy 200 starcrafts, you can bump anything, even videos inside maps |
| 07:55.20 | Rodrigo | and you can charge for it. In 5 months you pay the 200 starcrafts |
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| 07:56.05 | Rodrigo | but still, the guys who made battle.net 0.2 are retarded |
| 07:56.26 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/desert-station/. The Desert Station. TheAhlias (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by xhatix. |
| 07:56.40 | Rodrigo | I bet they thought no one would play custom games. |
| 07:56.44 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/spacebound/. SpaceBound. AzothHyjal (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by xhatix. |
| 07:57.12 | Phaos | how is it even possible they thought that, custom games are what ruled warcraft 3 |
| 07:57.48 | Rodrigo | well, they are not very concerned about custom games. They think chat rooms are more important now |
| 07:58.27 | Phaos | thats because there was a gigantic stinck over the fact they said there would be chatrooms and then didn't follow through |
| 07:58.43 | Rodrigo | but that popularity system by number of people is really retarded. I don't believe someone could plan that in a big company |
| 07:59.05 | Rodrigo | I'm trying to imagine the reunion for battle.net 0.2 |
| 07:59.22 | Rodrigo | "Well, my project is a popularity system!" |
| 07:59.31 | Rodrigo | "hmm! excelent idea, let's do it" |
| 08:00.18 | Rodrigo | I can't understand how come no one inside Blizzard realised that the same maps would get stucked in the top forever |
| 08:00.48 | Rodrigo | there are new people buying starcraft every day and the first game they click is ALWAYS in the top. |
| 08:01.14 | Rodrigo | so, the popular maps are every time more popular and the less popular maps are every time less popular |
| 08:01.33 | Rodrigo | this is SO OBVIOUS and still they spend months implementing it, and testing it, and making reunions to discuss it |
| 08:01.45 | Rodrigo | OMG! That's so surreal. That's so impossible |
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| 08:01.58 | Hati | they should make achievments for playing unpopular maps :o |
| 08:02.09 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 08:02.22 | Rodrigo | I would love to see the name of the achievments |
| 08:03.18 | Rodrigo | "Achievment unlocked: The seeker" |
| 08:03.33 | rrowland | 86% through campaign achievements 8) |
| 08:04.01 | Rodrigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:05.01 | Rodrigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:05.31 | Rodrigo | they should reward achievments for popular maps, too |
| 08:05.43 | Rodrigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:05.45 | Dashkal | aha, you can too use triggers to grant exp |
| 08:06.40 | Dashkal | A little clunky, but it works: Create a modify unit effect that grants some constant amount and apply it. |
| 08:06.52 | Rodrigo | I know |
| 08:07.09 | Rodrigo | They fixed the "player has left the game" event in this new patch? |
| 08:08.14 | Hati | i might should have done protoss side-campaign before doing last battle :x |
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| 08:18.05 | Fatal5101 | i beat it! |
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| 08:27.50 | Phaos | someone said the new patch brang new units to the editor |
| 08:28.10 | Phaos | are they just insane and didn't know about the campagin dependency ? |
| 08:29.15 | Phaos | it was posted by bibendus so I'm not sure what to habeeb |
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| 08:39.06 | LordAbyss | hmm |
| 08:39.11 | LordAbyss | apperently its my birthday now |
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| 08:41.14 | Hati | done with campaign |
| 08:42.51 | Pychnight | any one remember how to modify or alter models with Buff? or attribute behaviours? |
| 08:45.03 | Hati | meh ... |
| 08:45.15 | Hati | unable to do protoss side campaign after i finished oO? |
| 08:45.33 | Pychnight | i realy don't remember ._. |
| 08:45.49 | Pychnight | i need to modify a model to anther model using behaviors... |
| 08:45.51 | ShadowTiger | actor events |
| 08:45.51 | Hati | you mean increasing the size etc. ? |
| 08:46.10 | Hati | create the new actor if the behavior happens |
| 08:46.31 | Hati | or ModelSwap if it works correctly |
| 08:46.33 | Hati | :x |
| 08:46.34 | ShadowTiger | yeah the campaign is actually dissapointing me a bit |
| 08:46.47 | ShadowTiger | i think i might just set it to normal and breeze through it and never go back |
| 08:46.51 | Hati | nah not disappointed ... just you can't do the missions anymore if you're done :( |
| 08:46.54 | Pychnight | model swap been trying to do that. |
| 08:47.11 | Pychnight | but can't find the right way... |
| 08:47.23 | ShadowTiger | actor events |
| 08:48.26 | Dashkal | I'm trying to follow a WASD tutorial and I hit a snag. I can't find this unit ability command: Move targeting ((Position of Player) offset by 1.0 towards (Camera Yaw of Player(1)) degrees) . When I look all I see under Move is Hold Position |
| 08:48.57 | Pychnight | actor events....... right >_< now time to go look for something like that... |
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| 08:50.56 | Pychnight | ... |
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| 08:52.27 | Dashkal | hmm, target type is greyed out. Did I pick the wrong action? (I used Issue Order) |
| 08:53.10 | Dashkal | aha, click the ( |
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| 08:54.43 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/diplomacymadeup/. Diplomacy(madeup). APPLESAUCEr (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 08:56.24 | Rodrigo | hey guyz, check this thread: |
| 08:56.25 | Rodrigo | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248105169 |
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| 08:57.37 | deathnight114 | hm |
| 08:57.48 | deathnight114 | is there any way to switch back to the old theme on sc2mapster? |
| 08:57.54 | deathnight114 | I dont like the new one :| |
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| 08:59.21 | Sixen | http://www.sc2mapster.com/themes/ |
| 08:59.38 | Sixen | pick the normal SC2Mapster and click... switch |
| 09:01.15 | deathnight114 | thanks sixen |
| 09:01.17 | deathnight114 | :) |
| 09:01.28 | Sixen | =] |
| 09:02.58 | Fisker | slaps Sixen around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:03.07 | deathnight114 | uhh.... so i click on the theme |
| 09:03.12 | deathnight114 | then as soon as i click on something else |
| 09:03.15 | Rodrigo | hey sixen, check this thread out: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248105169 |
| 09:03.15 | Fisker | you just got slapd |
| 09:03.18 | deathnight114 | the whole thing dissappears |
| 09:04.18 | deathnight114 | owait |
| 09:04.20 | deathnight114 | i have to click use |
| 09:04.23 | deathnight114 | sorry, i got it working |
| 09:05.08 | Sixen | lol rodrigo.. |
| 09:05.14 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 09:05.49 | Rodrigo | that's the truth |
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| 09:08.42 | Fisker | hey Sixen |
| 09:10.27 | Paras1te | CAn I have installed two versions of SC2 ;p? |
| 09:10.32 | Paras1te | I mean localizations |
| 09:10.50 | Sixen | yes, paras1te |
| 09:10.57 | Rodrigo | It's so unfair that different continents will play different custom maps |
| 09:11.06 | Sixen | I agree |
| 09:11.22 | Rodrigo | there will be a Dota Europe and Dota US |
| 09:11.31 | Rodrigo | made by different people |
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| 09:11.50 | Rodrigo | this is so against globalization |
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| 09:12.46 | Rodrigo | what is the most popular map in europe right now? It's another TD? |
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| 09:20.00 | onetwo | lol im in silver league |
| 09:20.04 | onetwo | but i just played 2 gold players |
| 09:20.06 | onetwo | annihilated them |
| 09:20.07 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 09:20.17 | onetwo | i did my placement matches during the pro-time |
| 09:20.21 | deathnight114 | i'm in gold, and won 4/5 of my placement matches |
| 09:20.21 | onetwo | that was a mistake |
| 09:20.22 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:20.28 | deathnight114 | and the one i lost to was a diamond player |
| 09:20.29 | deathnight114 | :| |
| 09:20.32 | onetwo | ah |
| 09:20.35 | deathnight114 | should have been in plat |
| 09:20.38 | onetwo | and i played a round of nexus wars |
| 09:20.42 | onetwo | it was okay |
| 09:20.44 | onetwo | wont play it again |
| 09:20.47 | onetwo | but was interesting once |
| 09:20.58 | deathnight114 | "it was good but i wont play it again" |
| 09:21.05 | onetwo | k ill be honest |
| 09:21.08 | onetwo | i was bored out of my mind |
| 09:21.14 | onetwo | the terrain job annoyed me |
| 09:21.17 | onetwo | there |
| 09:21.18 | onetwo | :D |
| 09:21.36 | deathnight114 | damnit |
| 09:21.43 | deathnight114 | How do i make a wave of units? |
| 09:21.44 | onetwo | <3 |
| 09:22.06 | deathnight114 | I've figured out how to create an army, but i dont know how to make them move to a certain point |
| 09:22.08 | deathnight114 | :| |
| 09:22.15 | onetwo | Unit - Issue order to unit group |
| 09:22.21 | onetwo | also, ill be releasing a tutorial that does this stuff |
| 09:22.22 | onetwo | tomorrow or sunday |
| 09:22.29 | onetwo | its a zombie AI tutorial |
| 09:22.32 | onetwo | like resident evil maps |
| 09:22.59 | deathnight114 | hm |
| 09:23.10 | deathnight114 | I'm having them be created from a point |
| 09:23.48 | deathnight114 | every 20 seconds of game time i spawn 100 zerglings at point 01 |
| 09:23.59 | onetwo | yeah thats basically exactly what my tutorial will cover |
| 09:24.07 | onetwo | and autotargeting hero units |
| 09:24.44 | deathnight114 | k |
| 09:27.02 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.04 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.05 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.07 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.09 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.10 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.22 | deathnight114 | how do i make them move from point 001 to point 002? |
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| 09:29.08 | Fisker | republishing blizzard maps is the cancer killing map publishing |
| 09:29.22 | Sixen | LOL |
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| 09:30.32 | onetwo | ugh |
| 09:30.34 | onetwo | comp frozew |
| 09:30.36 | Sixen | unodos! |
| 09:30.36 | onetwo | did i miss anything |
| 09:30.41 | deathnight114 | uhh |
| 09:30.55 | Rodrigo | Blizzard will fix the popularity system the day they make a new custom map. |
| 09:30.55 | deathnight114 | did you miss my script for creating units? |
| 09:31.18 | deathnight114 | <deathnight114>Timer - Every 20.0 seconds of Game Time |
| 09:31.19 | deathnight114 | <deathnight114>Unit - Create 100 Zergling for player 2 at Point 001 using point facing (No Options) |
| 09:31.24 | deathnight114 | timer is event |
| 09:31.27 | deathnight114 | unit is action |
| 09:31.49 | onetwo | ah |
| 09:31.51 | onetwo | yeah |
| 09:32.12 | deathnight114 | so what will i have to do to move those zerglings from point A To point B |
| 09:32.14 | deathnight114 | ? |
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| 09:32.28 | onetwo | make an action right after the unit create |
| 09:32.33 | onetwo | of Unit - Issue Order |
| 09:32.42 | onetwo | err |
| 09:32.45 | onetwo | unit - issue order to unit group |
| 09:32.50 | onetwo | then make it order last created units |
| 09:32.52 | onetwo | to |
| 09:32.57 | onetwo | click left bracket beside ability command |
| 09:33.01 | onetwo | change it to be order targeting point |
| 09:33.08 | onetwo | then make ability command be move move now |
| 09:33.12 | deathnight114 | wait... |
| 09:33.15 | onetwo | and then point be w/e you want |
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| 09:33.32 | deathnight114 | order all units in unit group |
| 09:33.37 | deathnight114 | what do i want unit group to be? |
| 09:33.48 | deathnight114 | last created units |
| 09:33.50 | deathnight114 | that was stupid |
| 09:33.51 | onetwo | last created units |
| 09:33.52 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 09:34.01 | Paras1te | bnet lags hard for me right now ;/ |
| 09:35.00 | deathnight114 | umm |
| 09:35.02 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 09:35.03 | deathnight114 | i click on it |
| 09:35.05 | deathnight114 | i search for move |
| 09:35.08 | deathnight114 | and the only option i see |
| 09:35.10 | deathnight114 | is hold position |
| 09:35.13 | onetwo | click on left most bracket |
| 09:35.17 | onetwo | beside ability command |
| 09:35.20 | onetwo | to change it to order targeting point |
| 09:36.12 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.29 | deathnight114 | so what do i want ability command to say, move right? |
| 09:36.37 | deathnight114 | Because when i search for move, it doesn't show up |
| 09:36.46 | onetwo | click left most bracket |
| 09:36.49 | onetwo | beside ability command |
| 09:36.52 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.56 | onetwo | o (A |
| 09:36.59 | onetwo | ( |
| 09:37.00 | onetwo | click that |
| 09:37.02 | Fisker | Sixen look at this shit |
| 09:37.04 | onetwo | see how i zoomed in |
| 09:37.05 | onetwo | :D |
| 09:37.11 | Sixen | what |
| 09:38.01 | deathnight114 | aight lets see if it works |
| 09:38.04 | onetwo | :D |
| 09:38.13 | Rodrigo | sc2mapsters is more organized than the blizzard forums. seriously. |
| 09:38.16 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/jwven.jpg |
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| 09:39.25 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 09:39.26 | deathnight114 | it worked |
| 09:39.28 | deathnight114 | now |
| 09:39.32 | Fisker | so Sixen |
| 09:39.35 | deathnight114 | how can i make them attack an enemy that they run into? |
| 09:39.38 | Fisker | when will Blizzard fix map publishing? |
| 09:39.54 | Fisker | So it doesn't feel like you're visiting a sick child that's about to die etc. |
| 09:40.28 | onetwo | change move |
| 09:40.29 | onetwo | to be attack |
| 09:40.34 | onetwo | so theyll attack move to that point |
| 09:41.50 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 09:42.33 | deathnight114 | worked |
| 09:43.49 | deathnight114 | how can i make it so it will add more zerglings each time? |
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| 09:44.45 | onetwo | what do you mean |
| 09:44.56 | onetwo | spawning 100 zergling every 20 secs is dangerous |
| 09:44.57 | deathnight114 | so the first time it spawns 100 zerglings |
| 09:44.58 | onetwo | you might wanna cap that |
| 09:44.59 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:45.04 | deathnight114 | next time it will spawn 150 |
| 09:45.12 | onetwo | make a variable in the left pane of tyep Integer |
| 09:45.19 | onetwo | type* |
| 09:45.21 | onetwo | initial value |
| 09:45.22 | onetwo | 100 |
| 09:45.42 | onetwo | then change the 100 in your spawn thing |
| 09:45.44 | onetwo | to be the variable |
| 09:45.58 | onetwo | and then make a new action after the order units thing |
| 09:46.09 | onetwo | "Variable - modify variable" |
| 09:46.15 | onetwo | pick your integer variable as the variable |
| 09:46.21 | onetwo | and modify it to add |
| 09:46.22 | onetwo | 50 |
| 09:46.27 | onetwo | so each time this runs itll be +50 |
| 09:46.54 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 09:46.59 | deathnight114 | changed zerglings to zeals |
| 09:47.04 | deathnight114 | gonna see how long my fleet of lurkers last |
| 09:47.06 | deathnight114 | XD |
| 09:47.08 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:47.25 | Rodrigo | if you want to talk about custom maps, better you post in the "custom maps" forum of the blizzard forum because all the other blizzard forums are filled with fans who thinks the game is perfect |
| 09:47.40 | onetwo | thats not what i saw |
| 09:47.45 | onetwo | i saw the other forums just whining about bnet |
| 09:47.48 | onetwo | which is basically what is |
| 09:47.51 | onetwo | the custom maps forum too |
| 09:47.55 | Rodrigo | but together with fans |
| 09:48.03 | Rodrigo | custom maps is the forum that most complains |
| 09:48.04 | onetwo | i cant wait till they add chat and change popularity |
| 09:48.11 | onetwo | then we can have real discussion |
| 09:48.12 | onetwo | in blizz forums |
| 09:48.39 | Rodrigo | if you complain about popularity system in the general chat, you are doomed |
| 09:49.02 | Rodrigo | most players will say that it's good because they can play a fast game and etc |
| 09:49.35 | ShadowTiger | does someone know if any units have a good fireball attack? |
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| 09:50.08 | Rodrigo | damn, I'm so mad with starcraft. I can't play the maps I want, I can't play with people I wan't, I can't make friends, I can't play with friends in europe, I can't make clans, I can't chat, i can't play campaign with zerg |
| 09:50.30 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:50.40 | onetwo | i dont know whether im disappointed at the people |
| 09:50.42 | onetwo | or the system |
| 09:50.43 | onetwo | i mean |
| 09:50.54 | onetwo | the maps that are staying at 11000 per hour |
| 09:51.01 | onetwo | (imo) suck |
| 09:51.02 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:51.04 | Rodrigo | worse than the system is the people defending it on the blizzard forums |
| 09:51.36 | onetwo | like i would expect a zoator's or skibi's type TD to be up there |
| 09:51.40 | onetwo | life of a peasent |
| 09:51.45 | onetwo | or just more professional maps |
| 09:51.51 | onetwo | its quite surprising :O |
| 09:51.56 | Rodrigo | I just made my map because I was confident that blizzard would change the popularity system after the fail during beta |
| 09:52.00 | onetwo | SOTIS, eckolnovkols map |
| 09:52.04 | onetwo | one of the most professional maps ive played |
| 09:52.08 | onetwo | within the 2 pages |
| 09:52.13 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 09:52.16 | onetwo | and its way below |
| 09:52.21 | Rodrigo | there's very good maps on page 35 |
| 09:52.24 | onetwo | :/ |
| 09:52.32 | onetwo | yeah theyll change system soon |
| 09:52.42 | onetwo | i would imagine some blizz employees who play the game |
| 09:52.45 | onetwo | and make maps themselves |
| 09:52.47 | onetwo | understand it |
| 09:52.54 | Rodrigo | the maps in the first pages are the first maps published, or bumped maps, or maps that bumped during beta. |
| 09:53.11 | Rodrigo | I can't imagine how someone approved the popularity system |
| 09:53.15 | Rodrigo | because before implementing there's a reunion |
| 09:53.22 | Rodrigo | where they discuss, test, approve |
| 09:53.35 | Rodrigo | in a reunion, with dozen talented programmers |
| 09:53.37 | Rodrigo | no one |
| 09:53.40 | Rodrigo | Not a SINGLE one |
| 09:53.50 | Rodrigo | realized that new maps would never be played |
| 09:54.09 | Rodrigo | jesus... thats so retarded |
| 09:54.21 | onetwo | totally |
| 09:54.23 | onetwo | thats what baffles me |
| 09:54.26 | onetwo | we recognized it instantly |
| 09:54.27 | Phaos | how do you know they had this reunion ? thats just standard practice, we have no idea how blizzard runs their departments |
| 09:54.30 | onetwo | sure, maybe we didnt see it coming before hand |
| 09:54.38 | onetwo | on paper none of us cared |
| 09:54.40 | onetwo | sure, new system sounds cool |
| 09:54.47 | onetwo | but within days of popularity coming out |
| 09:54.49 | onetwo | we all saw the problem |
| 09:55.05 | Rodrigo | they have reunion rooms, I saw pictures, its a huge company. Huge companies most of the time make reunions before implementing a system |
| 09:55.11 | onetwo | and its not like im whining cause my map isnt popular |
| 09:55.12 | onetwo | i have one |
| 09:55.15 | onetwo | so that gives cred |
| 09:55.18 | Rodrigo | specially a system that important! Its battle.net! |
| 09:56.13 | Rodrigo | i dont care about my map being popular |
| 09:56.19 | Rodrigo | I just want to play it |
| 09:56.23 | onetwo | exactly |
| 09:56.27 | Saeris1 | ekco needs to work on balance |
| 09:56.29 | Phaos | I agree popularity is the shittiesy mechanic ever. especially when they don't allow any other sorting mechanism |
| 09:56.37 | Saeris1 | earlier i was playing and ONE hero took us all out at lvl 1 |
| 09:56.38 | ShadowTiger | so nobody knows if there is a good fireball model in sc2? |
| 09:56.38 | onetwo | but i say KEEP publishing for sure |
| 09:56.42 | onetwo | i love being able to update my map |
| 09:56.44 | Saeris1 | with his fucking mini turrets |
| 09:56.45 | onetwo | and everyone gets the update |
| 09:56.48 | onetwo | no random versions floating around |
| 09:56.49 | onetwo | with bugs |
| 09:56.54 | Rodrigo | yes, I like this, too |
| 09:56.56 | onetwo | ahha saeris |
| 09:56.58 | onetwo | i played that hero |
| 09:57.00 | onetwo | that never happened |
| 09:57.07 | Saeris1 | it raped my team >.< |
| 09:57.09 | onetwo | it was an average her |
| 09:57.10 | onetwo | hero |
| 09:57.11 | onetwo | maybe he changed it |
| 09:57.13 | Saeris1 | we couldn't get near them |
| 09:57.15 | Saeris1 | did too much dmg |
| 09:57.21 | Rodrigo | I like the fact that I can publish my map and others can play while I'm not in the internet |
| 09:57.49 | Rodrigo | but whats the point of publishing it when it goes to the end of a list with all maps played in the world since the beggining of the time? |
| 09:58.11 | Saeris1 | but hey, i finally worked out every possible combination for my combo golems |
| 09:58.15 | Rodrigo | and you have to start the list by the beggining and load the name of all maps before reaching the end |
| 09:58.19 | Saeris1 | i have to make 300 units now |
| 09:58.58 | Saeris1 | i wonder if there's a way to make "squadron" units, like 2-3 models in one "unit" that move and fight together |
| 09:58.58 | onetwo | gl |
| 09:59.06 | Saeris1 | ie: see company of heroes |
| 09:59.36 | Paras1te | you can make a flag unit |
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| 10:03.55 | Phaos | yeah you can make a squadron saeris. take a look at the brood lord |
| 10:04.01 | ShadowTiger | night everyone |
| 10:04.05 | ShadowTiger | RIP ShadowTD |
| 10:04.07 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 10:04.45 | Saeris1 | hmmm, good point phaos |
| 10:05.12 | Saeris1 | i would just like to copy like... 50 things from company of heroes... but i'm no good at editing units |
| 10:05.23 | Saeris1 | someone needs to get on that, cuz that game has some great fucking mechanics |
| 10:05.58 | Phaos | so everyone says, but I have never seen company of heroes |
| 10:06.00 | Phaos | :P |
| 10:06.27 | Saeris1 | go try it, well worth your time. especially since they are coming out with a free mmo version of it soon |
| 10:06.37 | Saeris1 | and they are giving the campaign away for free |
| 10:07.30 | Saeris1 | i'm gonna be too busy making all these units and working on a TF2 style hero map |
| 10:08.32 | Paras1te | TF2? |
| 10:08.36 | Paras1te | you mean comic style? |
| 10:08.48 | Paras1te | or just classes |
| 10:09.05 | Saeris1 | classes and game mode, sorta |
| 10:09.11 | Saeris1 | it's a payload map |
| 10:09.22 | Saeris1 | but with each class from tf2 as a playable hero |
| 10:10.01 | onetwo | woo i might have found a codec |
| 10:10.05 | onetwo | that will save me lots of render time |
| 10:10.35 | Saeris1 | Swan as the Engi, Tosh as the Spy, Nova as the Sniper, Tychus as the HWG, Stetman as the Medic |
| 10:10.41 | Saeris1 | prolly Raynor as the Soldier |
| 10:11.00 | Saeris1 | not sure about the demoman and the scout yet |
| 10:11.53 | Paras1te | demo - marauder |
| 10:12.24 | Saeris1 | i might do that |
| 10:12.33 | Saeris1 | but i was hoping to use "hero" units for each |
| 10:12.41 | Saeris1 | so they have the more badass models |
| 10:13.16 | Paras1te | mercenary marauder then |
| 10:13.29 | Saeris1 | with so many humans, doesn't seem right to use zeratul at all |
| 10:16.26 | Dinoo | that mercenary girl as the scout |
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| 10:18.52 | Pychnight | alright anther silly question, how do you change the units sounds, picture, name and rank with data editor after a model swap? |
| 10:19.04 | Phaos | why is the only bridge terrain object for a space platform map -_- |
| 10:19.14 | Dinoo | (the one driving a vulture) |
| 10:19.29 | Pychnight | i was looking though actor events to see if anything like that showed up |
| 10:19.32 | Phaos | underneath the bridge is a gapping hole into nothing ness |
| 10:20.11 | Dinoo | lol |
| 10:22.50 | Pychnight | so, no idea? |
| 10:23.18 | Pychnight | is it even possible to do that after a model swap in the dataeditor with out restorting to triggers? |
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| 10:27.27 | slightlyrandom | Pychnight: You replace the actor |
| 10:28.10 | Pychnight | yeah, but with out a morph is it possible to replace the actor with actor events? like doing a swap between them? |
| 10:28.31 | slightlyrandom | Why arent you doing a morph ? |
| 10:29.20 | slightlyrandom | also, of course it is |
| 10:29.59 | Pychnight | i'm using a trait system i designed that allows you to alter unit this system requires you to be able to keep your traits at all times to effect the path... |
| 10:30.12 | slightlyrandom | Morphs retain kill count |
| 10:30.20 | slightlyrandom | I'm sure it'll retain other stuff as well |
| 10:30.25 | Pychnight | i did try morphing first but the traits tended to vanish after morphing back |
| 10:31.49 | Pychnight | i actually kept the old method incase this new method did not work 100% |
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| 10:32.14 | Pychnight | so, i got a few clones of the unit i'm woring on |
| 10:32.22 | Rodrigo | I'm surprised how different is the people inside the blizzard forums |
| 10:32.38 | Pychnight | it's 4 chan in there. |
| 10:33.06 | Rodrigo | I posted EXACTLY the same Thread in the "General" and in the "Custom maps" forum in the blizzard. In the "General" everyone is calling me a troll. In the "Custom maps" everyone is calling me awesome. |
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| 10:33.36 | Rodrigo | Its EXACTLY the same thread |
| 10:34.25 | Rodrigo | I can't believe. 2 different forums in the same website: 2 totally different group opinions |
| 10:35.26 | allenmelon | lol thers so many noobs on sc2 |
| 10:37.46 | Clord | people love my "THE Card Game" in european side |
| 10:37.47 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:39.54 | Clord | about forum posts replies... lead troll of thread makes other trolls to mimic him ;) |
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| 10:40.41 | DiNooo | re |
| 10:41.07 | Hati | :( |
| 10:41.09 | Hati | Aiur |
| 10:42.08 | Hati | Clord: its on EU servers ? |
| 10:44.30 | Rodrigo | about the forums, check this out: |
| 10:44.33 | Rodrigo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/5476-blizzard-forums-2-distinct-groups/ |
| 10:44.48 | Clord | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/5464-found-way-to-fix-campaign-stuff-dependencies-problem/ |
| 10:44.55 | Clord | XD |
| 10:45.03 | Clord | I found second way to fix this problem good :) |
| 10:45.16 | Clord | I noticed that campaign missions does not use liberty multi depedency |
| 10:45.28 | Clord | after removing it from list in map... everything just works |
| 10:45.30 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:45.47 | Clord | yeah |
| 10:45.53 | Clord | THE Card Game is published in EU side |
| 10:46.18 | Hati | yeah currently starting one |
| 10:46.56 | allenmelon | wow |
| 10:46.56 | Clord | yeah yeah |
| 10:46.59 | allenmelon | i got placed in gold |
| 10:47.05 | allenmelon | i should be in bronze or something |
| 10:47.12 | allenmelon | but there were so many noobs in the placement matches lol |
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| 10:47.33 | allenmelon | i swear, three of the noobs were really weird, they made every kind of buildig |
| 10:47.47 | allenmelon | and then when i killed their main base, they moved to another base and tried to rebuild... |
| 10:47.50 | Clord | it is kinda how AI works in most games |
| 10:47.57 | Clord | XD |
| 10:48.10 | allenmelon | now im gonna lose in ranked matches |
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| 10:55.33 | Clord | hehe... winning five matches in row during practice league or was it ten |
| 10:55.34 | Clord | XD |
| 10:55.38 | Clord | during beta |
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| 10:55.47 | Icecrowncitadel | Hi everyone, how are you ? |
| 10:55.48 | Clord | it made me happy to know there is way crappier people in that game than me |
| 10:55.49 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:56.10 | Icecrowncitadel | Do you know where to find units like Kerrigan, Zeratul or Jim Raynor in the Editor. |
| 10:56.21 | Clord | yea |
| 10:56.23 | Clord | yeah |
| 10:56.29 | Sixen | Icecrowncitdael, File > Dependencies > Add Standard |
| 10:56.36 | Clord | remove liberty multi from dependency list |
| 10:56.37 | Sixen | add Liberty (Campaign) and Liberty Story (Campaign) |
| 10:56.41 | Clord | and add both of campaign ones |
| 10:56.42 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:56.52 | Icecrowncitadel | Thanks, Clord. That's useful. |
| 10:56.58 | Clord | if they remove lbierty multi from list... it does not bug with campaign stuff |
| 10:56.59 | Clord | :) |
| 10:57.24 | Clord | I made my own "research" of the matter |
| 10:57.26 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:57.56 | Icecrowncitadel | It looks like the Hyperion when caca happens and shit like thatm akes Tychus win the chess game lol with Raynor's Kerrigan eye should be never like the gauss rifle in the arm of Horner :) ! |
| 10:58.32 | Clord | oh and.... there is another bonus with removing liberty multi from list more than just bug fix |
| 10:58.40 | Clord | when they make balance patch |
| 10:58.43 | Clord | your map stays immune |
| 10:58.43 | Icecrowncitadel | That's fine thanks Clord you're now my friend |
| 10:59.43 | Clord | no problem :) |
| 11:02.39 | Saeris1 | if only Mira actually had a model, she doesn't |
| 11:02.57 | Saeris1 | fucking lame |
| 11:05.13 | Dogmai | So when we disable the Game Interface, it disables the hotkeys for attack, stop etc |
| 11:05.50 | Dogmai | Is there anyway to reenable those hotkeys without creating an action that says, when player presses S stop unit in units current selected by player |
| 11:06.12 | Dogmai | that are owned by player as well |
| 11:06.27 | Dogmai | whilst stop is easy enough, replicating the attack button is a bit more of a pain in the ass |
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| 11:08.41 | Eagl3s1ght | hey im trying to remove doodad with action trigger but for some reason its not removing pathing blocker. anyone know why? |
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| 11:20.46 | slightlyrandom | Dogmai: Have you tried looking into hiding the UI instead of disabling it? |
| 11:21.18 | Keen| | hey, im trying to disable, or set really high the supply limit so debots arent needed |
| 11:21.19 | slightlyrandom | Or customizing it in some decent fashion |
| 11:21.30 | slightlyrandom | Go to the units, remove their supply cost |
| 11:21.43 | Keen| | but "modify play property" doesnt do it |
| 11:21.54 | slightlyrandom | (1:21:26 PM) slightlyrandom: Go to the units, remove their supply cost |
| 11:22.09 | Keen| | but then i would have to make a duplicate unit for every single unit? |
| 11:23.22 | slightlyrandom | Well, not if you edit the units |
| 11:23.43 | Keen| | thats still crazy work to do a simple thing |
| 11:25.30 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, that'd take at least 10 minutes to do |
| 11:25.51 | slightlyrandom | But if you want infinite units, thats the way to go |
| 11:26.00 | Keen| | and if i modify the units it would only take effect on this 1 map? |
| 11:26.08 | slightlyrandom | Since you can't raise the supply cap to more than 999, and even then you can't do it for all players |
| 11:26.17 | slightlyrandom | Of course Keen| |
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| 11:27.02 | Keen| | idealy i would like to be able to set the supply limit through code to raise it durring gameplay |
| 11:29.25 | slightlyrandom | And you don't have a building or unit you can give a massive amount of supplies ? |
| 11:29.39 | Keen| | hmm i guess that would work |
| 11:29.42 | slightlyrandom | Because there is a Modify Player Max Supplies |
| 11:29.48 | slightlyrandom | trigger |
| 11:30.43 | Keen| | action? |
| 11:30.57 | Fisker | Sixen my man |
| 11:31.02 | slightlyrandom | yeah |
| 11:31.06 | Keen| | ti dont see a max supply action |
| 11:31.16 | Rodrigo | omg where is vjeux |
| 11:31.20 | slightlyrandom | Modify Player Property - Supply Limit |
| 11:31.31 | Rodrigo | I dont get it how he called my last thread a troll! |
| 11:31.33 | Keen| | right, but that doesnt stick |
| 11:31.46 | Keen| | i think the game is overriding it based on your supply depot count |
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| 11:32.13 | Rodrigo | I was just warning that the blizzard forum gives to you different answers for the same thread if you post in different sessions. Since when this is trolling...... |
| 11:32.24 | slightlyrandom | Keen|: Yes, Supply LIMIT, not current Supply |
| 11:33.04 | Fisker | Sixen you are awesome |
| 11:33.07 | slightlyrandom | Rodrigo: Depends a lot on your language, my good sir |
| 11:33.33 | Rodrigo | well, in the sc2mapster forum, I was being polite |
| 11:33.39 | Rodrigo | and serious |
| 11:33.49 | Rodrigo | I wasn't trolling |
| 11:34.07 | Rodrigo | check for yourself |
| 11:34.11 | Rodrigo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/5476-blizzard-forums-2-distinct-groups/#p3 |
| 11:34.33 | Keen| | im setting "supplies limit" to 10000 every 1 second |
| 11:34.49 | Keen| | it still shows up as 11 or whatever when i start the game |
| 11:34.58 | Rodrigo | tell me, why is this thread a troll!?!??!?!?! |
| 11:34.59 | Keen| | whereas setting minirals works |
| 11:35.07 | Eagl3s1ght | maybe you are not triggering the action? |
| 11:35.28 | Keen| | setting minerals works so its being called |
| 11:35.44 | Dogmai | slightlyrandom: it is hidden, but it disables the hotkeys |
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| 11:36.01 | Bambi | Hey 'dere room. o/ |
| 11:36.04 | slightlyrandom | Keen|: You're not really reading what I am saying here |
| 11:36.06 | slightlyrandom | Supply LIMIT |
| 11:36.11 | slightlyrandom | Standard = 200 |
| 11:36.17 | slightlyrandom | Supply Current |
| 11:36.20 | slightlyrandom | Starts at 11 |
| 11:36.39 | Bambi | raises hand. |
| 11:36.42 | Bambi | Whats the issue? |
| 11:36.49 | Rodrigo | damn vjeux |
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| 11:36.54 | slightlyrandom | Try setting supply limit to 5, you'll see what it does |
| 11:37.03 | slightlyrandom | or 15 and build a supply depot, whichever works |
| 11:37.03 | Lasion | mornin' |
| 11:37.15 | Keen| | so then how do i set supply current? |
| 11:37.16 | Bambi | raises hand higher. "Mr random! Mr random! I has question!" |
| 11:37.39 | Eagl3s1ght | if i take away visibilty with action trigger will my pathing blocker not pathblock anymore? |
| 11:37.43 | Clord | I have a question |
| 11:37.47 | Clord | grammal nazi |
| 11:37.50 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:37.57 | Bambi | Grammal, !? :O |
| 11:38.04 | Clord | carry on :) |
| 11:38.05 | Bambi | Did you mean "Grammar"? |
| 11:38.10 | Bambi | (lul) |
| 11:38.26 | Eagl3s1ght | Keen| you will not need to set a supply current if your supply limit works. Try making loads of units and see if you can make more than 200, that way you have your solution |
| 11:38.30 | Clord | yes yes I did ^^ |
| 11:38.41 | Bambi | xD |
| 11:39.01 | hakowy | hey anyone remember i saw yesterday map on sc2mapster similar to supreme commander(zoom out) what thats name? |
| 11:39.43 | Clord | it could be done with some heavy triggering ^^ |
| 11:39.49 | Fisker | omg Sixen my man |
| 11:39.52 | Clord | some dummy units present as arrows etc |
| 11:40.05 | Keen| | Eagl3s1ght im setting supply limit to 10000 and i can only build 11 units |
| 11:40.05 | Bambi | So~ I'm a lamer nub who was too lazy durring my WCIII days to make custom content. I have minimum experience with any form of aformentioned making of custom content elsewhere, and I have almost no experience with scripting in its' entirity. Where should I start? |
| 11:40.06 | Bambi | :D |
| 11:40.24 | Keen| | ui shows 11/11 |
| 11:40.30 | slightlyrandom | Bambi: youtube.com/user/onetwosc |
| 11:40.46 | Bambi | Try something with 3 digits Keen; COULD help. if not, you could just... you know, make all your units NOT take ANY supply since 10000 is basically limitless, as far as standard units are concerned. |
| 11:40.51 | Bambi | If you /really/ wanted to go the extra mile, |
| 11:40.56 | Bambi | You could take low cost units like zerglings, |
| 11:41.03 | Bambi | and set a nice trigger to detect the amount of them you have, |
| 11:41.21 | slightlyrandom | Keen|: Either fix unit supply cost, or make a dummy unit somewhere that supplies 200 |
| 11:41.27 | Bambi | and if you have, say, 10, it spawns a static unit under your control which takes 1 supply; so, 5 zerg spawns costs 1, instead of 5. |
| 11:41.41 | Bambi | =o What are you trying to do? |
| 11:41.47 | Bambi | Just make an unlim map, or? |
| 11:41.49 | slightlyrandom | Why not just set the supply to 0.2, then? :) |
| 11:41.54 | Bambi | Wait you can do that? D: |
| 11:41.55 | Bambi | OMG |
| 11:41.56 | Bambi | NO WAY |
| 11:42.21 | slightlyrandom | Most certainly |
| 11:42.26 | slightlyrandom | Zerglings cost 0.5 |
| 11:42.34 | slightlyrandom | In the regular game, so, why not 0.2 ? |
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| 11:42.41 | Bambi | The unit itself has a .5 for its value? |
| 11:42.43 | Bambi | D: |
| 11:43.04 | slightlyrandom | Thats what I said |
| 11:43.25 | Bambi | Ffffffffffffffffff WELL THATS DIFFERENT FROM SCI |
| 11:43.29 | Eagl3s1ght | how do you set a timer variable to 0? someone please |
| 11:44.05 | Keen| | hmm |
| 11:44.13 | Fisker | Anyone else having issues accessing the story mode tech trees? |
| 11:44.15 | Keen| | ok setting supply on the command center works |
| 11:44.22 | Fisker | I add Campaign and storymode to dependencies |
| 11:44.28 | Fisker | I search for them under upgrades |
| 11:44.32 | Fisker | and then the editor crashes |
| 11:44.55 | Bambi | D: Oh no! Blizz you didn't do something that makes multiple dependencies crash your editor did you? Hmm... |
| 11:45.00 | Bambi | Lemme investigate that. |
| 11:45.01 | slightlyrandom | Remove the regular dependencies Fisker |
| 11:45.12 | slightlyrandom | The Multiplayer ones |
| 11:45.55 | Bambi | Only multi or liberty as well? (jw) |
| 11:46.20 | Sixen | rawr |
| 11:46.23 | Bambi | rawr. |
| 11:46.35 | Bambi | Did you mean "Roar"? |
| 11:46.40 | Sixen | Oh no. Rawr! |
| 11:46.45 | Bambi | :O |
| 11:46.53 | Fisker | won't that impede my attempt to make a multiplayer map slightlyrandom ? |
| 11:47.02 | slightlyrandom | Why would it ? |
| 11:47.08 | Bambi | RANDOM AS ALL GET OUT; and COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE, but did ASDF2 ruin the D: face for anyone else forever? |
| 11:47.26 | Fisker | i'd figure that there would be something the game needs to set it up as a multiplayer game in it |
| 11:47.53 | Bambi | Fisker, I don't think Multiplayer dependency actually is a necessity for multiplayer, it just has a few triggers, balance, etcetc in it for melee multi. (Like, no golis, or, all that fun stuff) |
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| 11:48.19 | Fisker | still crashes |
| 11:48.36 | slightlyrandom | Which dependencies do you have enabled now? |
| 11:48.38 | Bambi | I don't know for sure, but I'd assume that since the camp unit/tech tree has to have its own dependency, the same has to be said for the multiplayer one, right? The multiplayer one isn't a multiplayer dependent thing; just has the trees/etc for the vanilla multiplayer right now. |
| 11:48.40 | Lasion | runs off to fetch screen #2 |
| 11:48.48 | Fisker | core campaign and campaignstory |
| 11:48.55 | Keen| | how would i get a unit property like its supply cost? |
| 11:48.59 | Hati | Clord: for what are minerals .. ? |
| 11:49.05 | Fisker | or wait |
| 11:49.06 | Bambi | What do you mean, Keen? |
| 11:49.10 | Bambi | oh |
| 11:49.11 | slightlyrandom | Get Unit Property ? |
| 11:49.11 | Bambi | durp |
| 11:49.18 | Bambi | (i'm dumb, i read it wrong) |
| 11:49.20 | Fisker | Liberty (Mod) Liberty(Campaign) Liberty Story (Campaign) |
| 11:49.23 | slightlyrandom | The action editor has a search function |
| 11:49.24 | Bambi | uhmm~ i suppose if you... |
| 11:49.26 | Keen| | ifi have a reference to a unit i want to find how much supply it costs to build |
| 11:49.28 | Fisker | should i also remove liberty (mod)? |
| 11:49.31 | Bambi | points to random. |
| 11:49.50 | slightlyrandom | Well, try it out Fisker |
| 11:49.59 | slightlyrandom | It can't get any worse, right? |
| 11:50.05 | Bambi | :O Bluescreen? |
| 11:50.08 | Bambi | :D |
| 11:50.15 | Bambi | It /could/ get worse. :D |
| 11:50.16 | Fisker | i can't :P |
| 11:50.19 | Fisker | uses resources from there |
| 11:50.20 | Bambi | D:? |
| 11:50.20 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:50.22 | Bambi | ohlol |
| 11:50.30 | Keen| | slightlyrandom there is no "Get Unit Property" |
| 11:50.31 | Bambi | yeah, liberty is SCII's base one, I'd assume. |
| 11:50.41 | Eagl3s1ght | how do you set a timer variable to 0? someone please |
| 11:50.43 | Bambi | Keen, you search for the unit, most likely. |
| 11:51.04 | Fisker | it appears that just liberty (mod) and liberty story (campaign) fixes it |
| 11:51.09 | Fisker | infact it didn't |
| 11:51.10 | Fisker | rage |
| 11:51.11 | Fisker | raaaaage |
| 11:51.13 | Bambi | lol |
| 11:51.19 | kruno | MS Paint is an awesome map editor, you just have to plot contours with the airbrush :D |
| 11:51.21 | Bambi | Liberty is /probably/ ALL of the games resources |
| 11:51.38 | slightlyrandom | Keen: The unit properties are reals |
| 11:51.42 | Fisker | think i'll try to open a campaign map |
| 11:51.46 | Fisker | and see what it says |
| 11:51.56 | Keen| | hmm found it |
| 11:51.57 | slightlyrandom | So, either set a variable to the value, or use a comparison that can handle reals |
| 11:52.08 | Keen| | theres "unit type cost" |
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| 11:53.26 | vjeux | hey! |
| 11:53.31 | Fisker | ooooh |
| 11:53.35 | Fisker | that's why it crashed |
| 11:53.39 | Fisker | it's a specific upgrade that crashes it |
| 11:53.54 | slightlyrandom | awesomely awesome |
| 11:54.12 | Fisker | can't be bothered then |
| 11:54.43 | Bambi | Here, |
| 11:54.45 | Bambi | Keen |
| 11:54.57 | Bambi | ~~nvm |
| 11:55.07 | Bambi | what upgrade, fisker? :O |
| 11:55.36 | Bambi | by GOD |
| 11:55.49 | Bambi | zerglings legitimately have a cost of .5 |
| 11:55.49 | vjeux | hey Bambi :p |
| 11:55.53 | Bambi | is actually shocked. |
| 11:56.12 | Bambi | I thought that they had some silly workaround for a non-integer value like they did in SCI |
| 11:56.17 | Bambi | That is amazing to me. :o |
| 11:56.31 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, the possibilities are endless now! |
| 11:56.34 | Bambi | I NO RITE? |
| 11:56.43 | Bambi | I'm just thinking of the applications. |
| 11:56.56 | Bambi | OH YEAH system crashing masses of units that actually have a cap. :D |
| 11:57.39 | Bambi | It is going to be beautiful btw; the SCII custom content will get progressively better for the next three or four years thanks to the resource intensity of the game in and of itself... |
| 11:57.49 | Lasion | if you want system crashing from massive unit spawning just look at the map "Income wars" |
| 11:57.56 | Bambi | :3 follow the same pattern as WCIII.... more and more intens--- lol i no rite? |
| 11:57.56 | Lasion | 90% of the games ends in a tie |
| 11:57.59 | vjeux | income wars is so fucked up |
| 11:58.03 | Bambi | One of the worstest ones is uh.... |
| 11:58.07 | Bambi | Some of the Tug maps |
| 11:58.08 | vjeux | impossible to beat the enemy :p |
| 11:58.08 | Lasion | either that or the game of player X crashes |
| 11:58.13 | Lasion | hehe |
| 11:58.17 | vjeux | the first who lags too much quit |
| 11:58.20 | Lasion | vjeux, it's possible by rush :P |
| 11:58.21 | Bambi | have some /terrible/ triggers that are redonkulous |
| 11:58.30 | Keen| | now a stupid question, how do i set up a map for the standard melee gametype |
| 11:58.36 | Bambi | I am excite to see if the NOTD people come back xD |
| 11:58.41 | Keen| | is there just some node that represents player starts? |
| 11:58.43 | Lasion | acctually, I -have- won a map which seemed nigh impossible to end. |
| 11:58.54 | Bambi | Oh, Lasion? |
| 11:58.55 | Bambi | DO TELL |
| 11:58.58 | Eagl3s1ght | how do you set a timer variable to 0? someone please |
| 11:59.07 | Bambi | Okay, someone tell eagl3 how, please |
| 11:59.07 | Lasion | let's just say that a gazillion high templars plays with massive BC's. |
| 11:59.14 | Bambi | or, better yet, Eagl3, what is the application? |
| 11:59.23 | Bambi | Like; you want an instant trigger? |
| 11:59.29 | Bambi | Why do you need a 0 value timer? |
| 11:59.36 | Bambi | Isn't that redundent? |
| 11:59.38 | Eagl3s1ght | I have a timer that works well, I want a cheat that puts the timer variable of the timer to 0 |
| 11:59.41 | Bambi | ...redundant?...? |
| 11:59.48 | Bambi | put the timer to .01 |
| 11:59.49 | Bambi | lol |
| 11:59.52 | Eagl3s1ght | =how |
| 11:59.55 | Bambi | Oh.. |
| 11:59.55 | Bambi | uhm |
| 12:00.03 | Bambi | Well, whatever string has the value of the timer itself |
| 12:00.13 | Bambi | have a trigger trip something that modifies that? |
| 12:00.14 | Bambi | I guess? |
| 12:00.40 | Eagl3s1ght | You have no idea do you? :/ |
| 12:00.56 | Eagl3s1ght | Trying to be useful but have no idea what you are talking about.. |
| 12:01.03 | Bambi | D: I haven't done it personally, but I'd assume you could -- lol yeahyeahyeah~iknow |
| 12:01.09 | Bambi | Here, how do you have your timer setup? |
| 12:01.18 | Bambi | same as all the camp ones? |
| 12:01.54 | Bambi | ~~ffone sec~ gonna look at the stuffs... |
| 12:03.19 | Eagl3s1ght | Timer - Start WhenNovaDieTimer as a One Shot Timer that will expire in 60 sec. Variable - Set Nova Spawn Timer Window = Last created timer window.... WhenNovaDieTimer = (new Timer) <Timer> |
| 12:03.46 | Eagl3s1ght | It should be as simple as edit variable action trigger or edit timer but for some reason theres no such things |
| 12:03.57 | Bambi | Yeah~ |
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| 12:04.06 | Fisker | Bambi |
| 12:04.16 | Bambi | Can you set a trigger to remove that timer and, say, create another one with 1 second left? :P |
| 12:04.25 | slightlyrandom | Eagl3s1ght: Set Variable (Timer) = Value |
| 12:04.35 | Bambi | (thats bad coding, but...~ one sec, I'm looking into something in the camps. |
| 12:05.04 | Eagl3s1ght | slightlyrandom: I get this far, but Set WhenNovaDieTimer = value, what do i put in value? |
| 12:05.22 | Eagl3s1ght | cause I cant put an integer from the options: Function, Preset, Variable, Custom Script |
| 12:05.22 | Bambi | scripting... |
| 12:05.25 | Bambi | tiggering... |
| 12:05.35 | slightlyrandom | Well, you start by making a timer variable |
| 12:05.45 | slightlyrandom | Instead of just starting a new timer |
| 12:05.58 | slightlyrandom | That way you can reference the thing, since now it has a name, see? |
| 12:06.09 | Eagl3s1ght | i have a timer variable, WhenNovaDieTimer |
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| 12:06.24 | Fisker | dark templar tactics it was called Bambi |
| 12:06.33 | Bambi | ? |
| 12:06.36 | Bambi | oh |
| 12:06.57 | Bambi | 300s > acceptable load time for triggers in a camp map, rite? |
| 12:07.50 | slightlyrandom | Ugh |
| 12:07.55 | Unrea1 | YO |
| 12:08.06 | slightlyrandom | Well, why aren't you just removing the timer and running whatever it is you need to run at the end of the timer ? |
| 12:08.39 | Fisker | also seem to be others crashing maybe they're not in the game |
| 12:08.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster Gohla (~user@53543F60.cable.casema.nl) |
| 12:08.40 | Fisker | for example i don't know anything about "Dark templar tactics" |
| 12:08.45 | Bambi | @slightrandom, thats, kinda what i was trying to say. D: |
| 12:08.59 | Bambi | needs to work on thought articulation. |
| 12:09.03 | Lasion | hehe |
| 12:09.22 | slightlyrandom | Eagl3s1ght: Alternatively you make an additional timer, TimerFoo with duration 0.1 |
| 12:09.31 | Bambi | Also something i said. D: |
| 12:09.54 | slightlyrandom | Well, it'd be easier to figure that shit out if you weren't spamming so much I tune you out |
| 12:10.11 | Bambi | Fair enough. |
| 12:10.27 | slightlyrandom | Sorry, grumpy 'cause this bastard model won't scale properly |
| 12:10.55 | Bambi | D': No, i never shut the fuck up.. xD I deserve a widdle bit of uh~ whatchucallit... reprimand? |
| 12:11.58 | Lasion | btw slightlyrandom, thanks for the youtube link. works a charm for nubs like me :D |
| 12:12.09 | Bambi | seconded. o/ |
| 12:12.21 | slightlyrandom | Don't thank me, thank Onetwo |
| 12:12.28 | slightlyrandom | He's the bugger who took the time to make all that crap |
| 12:12.29 | Lasion | allready did |
| 12:12.36 | Lasion | but wouldnt know about it ^^ |
| 12:13.00 | slightlyrandom | That's what google is for |
| 12:13.05 | Bambi | lol |
| 12:13.08 | Bambi | lmgtfy? |
| 12:13.13 | Lasion | or in this case, IRC |
| 12:13.32 | Bambi | which you found through what, Lasion? |
| 12:13.44 | Lasion | uhm... highschool? |
| 12:13.49 | Lasion | :D |
| 12:13.50 | Bambi | This IRC? |
| 12:13.53 | Bambi | Specifically? |
| 12:13.57 | Bambi | sc2mapster? |
| 12:14.01 | Lasion | This one I found through the website? |
| 12:14.11 | Lasion | and the one before that from blizz forums :P |
| 12:14.11 | Bambi | which you found through? |
| 12:14.20 | Lasion | it doesn't boil down to google, Bambi |
| 12:14.23 | Lasion | ;) |
| 12:14.24 | Bambi | D:! So, google was never invol_-askdjflaksjdf;lak FUCK! |
| 12:14.27 | Bambi | D': |
| 12:14.34 | Lasion | pats Bambi |
| 12:14.38 | Bambi | pouts. |
| 12:14.40 | Lasion | there, there. |
| 12:14.43 | Bambi | D: nou |
| 12:14.47 | Lasion | (in yo face!) |
| 12:14.52 | Bambi | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU! |
| 12:14.53 | Lasion | <3 |
| 12:14.58 | Bambi | D': |
| 12:15.28 | Lasion | Btw, does OneTwo hang out here? |
| 12:15.30 | Eagl3s1ght | slightlyrandom: sry.. about TimerFoo, is that the variable or something i put in the cheat trigger and then edit other variable to be = timerFoo? |
| 12:15.41 | slightlyrandom | A new variable |
| 12:16.02 | slightlyrandom | I dunno mate, when I want a timer to end or something to happen before it ends, I just say screw the timer and call the function I want to happen |
| 12:16.09 | slightlyrandom | I never messed around with ending a timer, no point |
| 12:16.20 | Eagl3s1ght | ok >< |
| 12:16.59 | Bambi | anyone have tips, or, a good resource, or, something, for the process of ballancing units/games/stuff? |
| 12:17.00 | Eagl3s1ght | well i suppose i could just copy the thing that happends at end of timer, and remove the timer |
| 12:17.33 | Bambi | doesn't mention that that was something she tried to say earlier. |
| 12:17.45 | Lasion | come to think of tower defenses, any news on the Cube? |
| 12:17.45 | Bambi | they*... he*... them*..... >.>; |
| 12:17.57 | Lasion | Bambi; "Thy" |
| 12:18.08 | Bambi | Oh u, Lasion. |
| 12:18.09 | Lasion | No? ^^ |
| 12:18.20 | Eagl3s1ght | yeah.. i got stuck in wanting to change the variable, eager to learn how to do it you know ;P |
| 12:18.44 | slightlyrandom | Eagl3s1ght: Or just move the thing that happens at the end to a seperate trigger, then call it when either the timer ends or the code happens |
| 12:18.48 | Bambi | Well Eagle, isn't the persuit of knowledge like that best done by ones own? :o |
| 12:19.52 | Bambi | "Lets change the Builder [Build] command to Build ((builder))--which is a lot of build in one sentence." oh you, one two |
| 12:20.15 | Bambi | and lets change the prefix to builder* |
| 12:20.20 | slightlyrandom | This stupid thing worked in the beta |
| 12:20.26 | slightlyrandom | Why won't it scale now? Ugh |
| 12:20.43 | Bambi | Whats the issue? What Model? is it the BLIZZ CERTIFIED SCALING THING? |
| 12:21.10 | slightlyrandom | Trying to scale a placement model |
| 12:21.43 | Bambi | A placement model i--- thats th--- -shuffles to the wiki- (thats the shadow right?) |
| 12:21.58 | slightlyrandom | It's the wireframe model thing, yeah |
| 12:22.17 | Bambi | Sooo, its a building, rite? |
| 12:22.20 | slightlyrandom | Green bobby you see when you place buildings |
| 12:22.23 | Bambi | mhmmm |
| 12:22.33 | Bambi | does it scale properly when it finished constructing? |
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| 12:22.39 | Bambi | OH, uhm--- |
| 12:22.53 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, the actor model scales wonderfully |
| 12:23.06 | Bambi | Create a copy of the model's wireframe and then define the scaled placement copy as the placement model? |
| 12:23.12 | Bambi | errm.. |
| 12:23.44 | Bambi | define the actor model/unit/thingy's placement model variable/attribute as the copied, edited placement modle... |
| 12:23.51 | Bambi | I seriously fail at speaking english, why do I try? |
| 12:24.05 | Bambi | Sprechen Sie Deutsch? |
| 12:24.06 | Bambi | lol |
| 12:24.41 | Bambi | Do buildings have a attribute/variable to define its placement model? |
| 12:25.12 | Eagl3s1ght | I somehow made some units on the map disappear.. wtf <.< |
| 12:25.45 | Bambi | lol |
| 12:25.51 | slightlyrandom | That's a feature, not a bug Eagl3s1ght |
| 12:26.00 | slightlyrandom | Well, I've tried scaling every scale I know how to scale |
| 12:26.04 | Eagl3s1ght | how do i show them again plx :p |
| 12:26.16 | slightlyrandom | That's hard to say without knowing what you did |
| 12:26.27 | slightlyrandom | And what you mean by disappear |
| 12:26.32 | slightlyrandom | Is the actor set correctly ? |
| 12:26.42 | Bambi | OH |
| 12:26.46 | Bambi | view>actors/units? |
| 12:26.55 | Fisker | btw |
| 12:27.03 | Fisker | anyone here with the CE? |
| 12:27.18 | Sixen | <~ |
| 12:27.24 | Bambi | CE...? |
| 12:27.31 | Sixen | collector's edition |
| 12:27.33 | Fisker | What guest passes did you get? |
| 12:27.35 | Bambi | Oh, duh... |
| 12:27.40 | Sixen | SC2 and WoW |
| 12:27.40 | Lasion | calaxey Editor |
| 12:27.42 | Lasion | ^^ |
| 12:27.44 | Fisker | Yeah but how many |
| 12:27.47 | Eagl3s1ght | I have no idea how to set actors :S |
| 12:27.50 | Sixen | but i'm jealous, normal people got a jim raynor pad |
| 12:27.52 | Sixen | 2 of each |
| 12:27.56 | Bambi | I have two of both, and i don't have the CE |
| 12:27.57 | Fisker | hmm |
| 12:27.58 | Sixen | I didn't get a Raynor notepad |
| 12:27.59 | Sixen | :( |
| 12:28.01 | Bambi | I do have the notepad |
| 12:28.02 | Bambi | :D |
| 12:28.04 | Bambi | I love it |
| 12:28.09 | Eagl3s1ght | im on like my second hour with any blizzard editor :P |
| 12:28.11 | slightlyrandom | Sixen: Only in countries where they haven't started to ship games in DVD cases |
| 12:28.13 | Fisker | i heard on the internets that you were supposed to get 3 |
| 12:28.20 | Fisker | dvd cases? |
| 12:28.22 | Bambi | I've drawn 50 hitler mustaches nao, lul. |
| 12:28.25 | Fisker | you mean people still ship in boxes? |
| 12:28.26 | Fisker | LOL |
| 12:28.29 | Bambi | LOL |
| 12:28.50 | Bambi | anyone want my guest passes? :o |
| 12:28.50 | Sixen | btw, everyone go "like" my post: v |
| 12:28.52 | slightlyrandom | Well, I get a 20 page quick guide and fuckall else |
| 12:28.53 | Sixen | it's a list of cheat codes |
| 12:28.56 | Eagl3s1ght | yes Bambi :P |
| 12:29.20 | Bambi | WOW passes: 8XXYWZ-ECXY-P8MDMR-YGEE-MNNFYT |
| 12:29.20 | Sixen | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/218522336 |
| 12:29.25 | Bambi | and |
| 12:29.30 | Fisker | "yay bambi" |
| 12:29.34 | Fisker | that's just what i needed |
| 12:29.39 | Fisker | some useless PoS key i can get for free |
| 12:29.44 | Bambi | 2V99BB-FN78-29J6YR-D8ZY-WPMWEC |
| 12:29.46 | Fisker | no offense of course |
| 12:29.49 | Eagl3s1ght | on here? <.< then its like a lottery to get an account lol |
| 12:29.49 | Bambi | ;D |
| 12:29.52 | Bambi | I no rite! |
| 12:30.06 | Bambi | :D AND I NO GIVE YOU MY SC KEYS |
| 12:30.07 | Bambi | :DD |
| 12:30.15 | monoframe | eagl3, nothing much, there were people during beta days who were giving out beta keys on public chat :P |
| 12:30.20 | Bambi | lol |
| 12:30.41 | Fisker | stop using my diablo marine Sixen |
| 12:30.42 | Bambi | they already have a free 10 day trial on their fucking site. |
| 12:30.43 | Bambi | lol |
| 12:31.10 | Bambi | btw, where is my Pico/Bridget/Trap face marine icon? >:[ |
| 12:31.44 | Sixen | Since I run a diablo site and an sc site, I figure it makes the most sense. |
| 12:32.04 | slightlyrandom | Tell me, Loading Bars on a Custom Loading screen. It doable? |
| 12:32.17 | slightlyrandom | That is, the melee ones where you can see everyone |
| 12:32.26 | Bambi | Probably, they don't have documentation on that specifically, but, |
| 12:32.42 | Bambi | I think it is a default thing for when it isn't coded in~ so... |
| 12:33.11 | Bambi | so you can't /easily/ get to the 'display progress bar' script/code/variable/wetf. |
| 12:33.29 | Fisker | btw Sixen |
| 12:33.41 | Bambi | (my editor is having issues loading anything trigger related; so, i can't even check that. q.q) |
| 12:33.44 | Fisker | i'm guessing the debug cheats found in campaign maps need a special debug build? :( |
| 12:33.56 | Sixen | Debug Cheats? |
| 12:34.04 | Fisker | yeah |
| 12:34.13 | Fisker | a lot of campaign maps has various debug commands |
| 12:34.21 | slightlyrandom | Bambi: Triggers only start loading when the map is almost done loading |
| 12:34.31 | Bambi | I mean~ like... |
| 12:34.35 | slightlyrandom | So, I need to set it in a game variant or on the loading screen setup |
| 12:34.43 | Bambi | yeah, |
| 12:35.03 | Bambi | fff~ |
| 12:35.17 | deathnight114 | Okay |
| 12:35.26 | deathnight114 | i've imported a bunch of music into starcraft 2 |
| 12:35.40 | deathnight114 | And i'm in the triggers trying to set one of my songs |
| 12:35.44 | Lasion | heeehehehhe |
| 12:35.46 | deathnight114 | as the defult soundtrack |
| 12:35.52 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.54 | Lasion | Sixen; Not sure what "RealMenDrillDeep" is from, considering i'm sure they're taking it from an "appropriate" source. <- I laughed. |
| 12:36.12 | Bambi | lol |
| 12:36.15 | Sixen | ;) |
| 12:36.19 | deathnight114 | When i try to select the soundtrack i want none of mine show up |
| 12:36.22 | Lasion | it DOES lead to some rather.. pg18 thoughts :P |
| 12:36.23 | deathnight114 | and LOL |
| 12:36.28 | deathnight114 | @Lasion |
| 12:36.28 | Bambi | lol |
| 12:36.29 | Sixen | Very much so ;) |
| 12:36.36 | Bambi | D: nc17*? |
| 12:36.37 | deathnight114 | I have saved my map after i imported the music |
| 12:36.40 | deathnight114 | what do i do? |
| 12:36.41 | slightlyrandom | deathnight114: You need to set a Sound to the sound you imported |
| 12:36.45 | slightlyrandom | In the data editor |
| 12:36.49 | Sixen | Even google showed some interesting results for "REALMENDRILLDEEP" |
| 12:36.51 | Sixen | I lol'd. |
| 12:37.12 | Bambi | LOL! |
| 12:37.17 | Lasion | oh god.. |
| 12:37.18 | Sixen | @Fisker: You just need to right-click the debug commands and click "Enabled" |
| 12:37.24 | Sixen | They're disabled by default |
| 12:38.04 | Lasion | "Real men drilling deep for Shania's virginity! It's there somewhere!" |
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| 12:38.10 | Bambi | LOL |
| 12:38.12 | Bambi | WAT? |
| 12:38.15 | Sixen | lol |
| 12:38.22 | Bambi | screen shotted and posted to #chan |
| 12:38.35 | Sixen | There's a #chan? :O |
| 12:38.36 | deathnight114 | umm |
| 12:38.37 | Fisker | :o |
| 12:38.41 | deathnight114 | im in the data editor |
| 12:38.41 | Bambi | no? D: |
| 12:38.42 | deathnight114 | And |
| 12:38.48 | Bambi | Fff~ |
| 12:38.49 | deathnight114 | i dont know how to make one of them for my track |
| 12:38.57 | Lasion | You know.. if someone was to randomly join this chat and catch that comment.. I would doubble check what the hell kind of channel I joined. |
| 12:39.02 | devilesk | i got the kerrigan portrait |
| 12:39.03 | Bambi | lol |
| 12:39.04 | Sixen | Hahaha |
| 12:39.07 | slightlyrandom | deathnight114: make a new Sound |
| 12:39.08 | devilesk | i got the kerrigan portrait |
| 12:39.09 | Bambi | bullshit devil D: |
| 12:39.11 | deathnight114 | i did |
| 12:39.12 | Bambi | Liar |
| 12:39.13 | Bambi | Liar. |
| 12:39.16 | devilesk | i got the kerrigan portrait |
| 12:39.29 | slightlyrandom | Then set it's source file to be the one you imported |
| 12:40.04 | slightlyrandom | It'd probably be easier if you make a new Soundtrack instaed |
| 12:40.10 | slightlyrandom | Hm, didn't know that was there |
| 12:40.43 | Fisker | btw Sixen |
| 12:40.47 | Eagl3s1ght | is it possible to issue a command to an unit to move to a point? |
| 12:40.57 | Fisker | have you figured out what the point in projecting some kind of hud on your cheek is? |
| 12:41.02 | Fisker | i mean you can't actually see it |
| 12:41.05 | Bambi | why does an unit sound improper? |
| 12:41.06 | Fisker | so why even project it? |
| 12:41.12 | slightlyrandom | ah, the soundtrack is for something fancy |
| 12:41.16 | deathnight114 | wait what..... |
| 12:41.23 | Sixen | what? :O |
| 12:41.25 | deathnight114 | my sounds |
| 12:41.27 | deathnight114 | dont show up |
| 12:41.28 | Eagl3s1ght | cause when i look in action trigger i can only find move - hold position |
| 12:42.04 | monoframe | Fisker, maybe terrans can extend their necks? So when they don't need to look at the dazzling blue visual schematics they just longen their necks, and the projection comes only to the cheek area |
| 12:42.16 | Bambi | lol? |
| 12:42.24 | slightlyrandom | deathnight114: Data Editor -> Sounds -> Add Object -> File thing -> Add File |
| 12:42.36 | Lasion | hehe |
| 12:42.38 | Lasion | "File thing" |
| 12:42.58 | deathnight114 | file thing? |
| 12:43.00 | deathnight114 | really? |
| 12:43.01 | deathnight114 | That doesn't help |
| 12:43.03 | slightlyrandom | Alright, alright, Sound Asset - File |
| 12:43.07 | Fisker | monoframe if it actually hit your eye you'd likely go blind |
| 12:43.09 | Bambi | lol |
| 12:43.09 | slightlyrandom | Use your god damned heads for once |
| 12:43.17 | Lasion | But it hurts :( |
| 12:43.22 | monoframe | what |
| 12:43.24 | deathnight114 | WHERE THE HELL IS SOUND ASSET... |
| 12:43.24 | Fisker | oh i got it now |
| 12:43.32 | Fisker | know how marines carry mirrors to look around corners |
| 12:43.38 | Bambi | LOL |
| 12:43.39 | Fisker | they use a mirror to look at the hud |
| 12:43.44 | slightlyrandom | deathnight114: the data editor has a search function |
| 12:43.52 | deathnight114 | I know.... |
| 12:43.57 | slightlyrandom | Then search for file |
| 12:43.59 | deathnight114 | But i dont know what to search for |
| 12:44.08 | Bambi | the name of the file |
| 12:44.10 | deathnight114 | the file does not show up |
| 12:44.17 | slightlyrandom | No, he's trying to make a sound reference a file |
| 12:44.29 | slightlyrandom | So, he needs to go make a new sound object, and add the file to it |
| 12:45.07 | deathnight114 | does it have to have a certain file extention? |
| 12:45.09 | deathnight114 | ogg right? |
| 12:45.32 | slightlyrandom | Wav works too |
| 12:45.37 | slightlyrandom | Dunno if there are any real limitations |
| 12:46.05 | deathnight114 | if it's wav then that's not working |
| 12:46.08 | deathnight114 | -_- |
| 12:46.11 | deathnight114 | hm |
| 12:46.16 | deathnight114 | I'm gonna try .ogg |
| 12:46.18 | deathnight114 | hold on |
| 12:46.19 | deathnight114 | lemme convert |
| 12:46.30 | deathnight114 | fl studio = win ;) |
| 12:47.39 | slightlyrandom | http://imgur.com/74dCY.jpg |
| 12:47.44 | Bambi | i don't know what i should try to do. |
| 12:47.45 | Lasion | uuuugh |
| 12:48.14 | Lasion | watching these tutorials make me go "Oh sure, now I can make this EXTREMELY advanced tower defence with 15789132 upgrades and a gazillion special heroes. |
| 12:48.21 | Bambi | LOL |
| 12:48.27 | slightlyrandom | Then go ahead and do it |
| 12:48.28 | Lasion | I tend to make my projects fifteen times larger than they need be. |
| 12:48.30 | slightlyrandom | wuss |
| 12:48.32 | Bambi | lol |
| 12:48.32 | Lasion | ^^ |
| 12:48.45 | Bambi | sits and brainstorms. |
| 12:48.47 | Lasion | I'm going to watch the tutorials toroughly first :P |
| 12:48.52 | slightlyrandom | Well, it's a good idea to start with a decently simple map |
| 12:49.01 | Bambi | yeah~ i no rite? |
| 12:49.02 | slightlyrandom | Learning by doing, is what I say |
| 12:49.04 | Lasion | yeah I should do that ^^ |
| 12:49.08 | Bambi | ditto |
| 12:49.11 | slightlyrandom | Fuck tutorials, use them if you need them |
| 12:49.12 | Lasion | You played SC1, right? |
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| 12:49.13 | Bambi | thats kinda why i wanna mirror him~ |
| 12:49.19 | Bambi | hynn |
| 12:49.24 | Fisker | hahahaha |
| 12:49.28 | Lasion | Remember the lurker defence maps? ^^ |
| 12:49.32 | Lasion | I luuuved 'em |
| 12:49.32 | Fisker | the loki an experimental super battlecruiser |
| 12:49.35 | slightlyrandom | No point in vaguely knowing all sorts of stuff, you gotta use it to learn it |
| 12:49.40 | Fisker | the hyperion, standard terran shit, clearly superior |
| 12:50.07 | Lasion | slightlyrandom, true that, but it's a good idea to atleast have some basics down |
| 12:50.10 | Bambi | starts doodling. |
| 12:50.14 | Bambi | I HAS IDEA |
| 12:51.16 | slightlyrandom | I can't learn stuff by watching it, I have to dig in and learn how stuff ties together by using it |
| 12:51.36 | deathnight114 | damnit. |
| 12:51.39 | Bambi | i need to have exposure to the mechanics, but the only way to be able to do something is to ACTUALLY DO IT |
| 12:51.40 | Bambi | lol |
| 12:51.44 | slightlyrandom | Otherwise it's just vague knowledge that stuff is possible, but not knowing how to actually do it |
| 12:52.04 | slightlyrandom | deathnight114: http://imgur.com/74dCY.jpg |
| 12:52.10 | deathnight114 | saw it already |
| 12:52.20 | deathnight114 | hm. |
| 12:54.13 | deathnight114 | hm.... lets try this again |
| 12:54.15 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 12:54.20 | Bambi | humms. "Hey, hey...hey...ey.... anyone willing to let me bounce ideas off of you?" |
| 12:54.34 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 12:55.00 | Bambi | heyheyhey, Lasion! |
| 12:55.02 | Lasion | Bambi, just open a chat and brainstorm :P |
| 12:55.04 | Lasion | hahaha |
| 12:55.07 | Lasion | great minds think alike? :P |
| 12:55.23 | Bambi | >:3 |
| 12:55.38 | Lasion | ./block bambi |
| 12:55.41 | Lasion | ;D |
| 12:55.44 | Bambi | LOL |
| 12:55.45 | Bambi | you meanie |
| 12:57.39 | Lasion | *cough* I'd never. |
| 12:57.45 | Lasion | reports abuse |
| 12:58.50 | deathnight114 | damnit |
| 12:58.56 | deathnight114 | I got it added to the data editor |
| 12:58.59 | deathnight114 | saved the map |
| 12:59.03 | deathnight114 | went into triggers |
| 12:59.06 | deathnight114 | and it STILL... |
| 12:59.07 | deathnight114 | didn't show up |
| 12:59.34 | Fisker | omg i'm killing you Sixen |
| 12:59.37 | Fisker | *stab stab stab* |
| 13:01.30 | Bambi | rar |
| 13:04.09 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 13:04.17 | Fisker | i very much do not like having to use the authenticator all the time |
| 13:07.03 | deathnight114 | finally |
| 13:07.12 | deathnight114 | Are there any tutorials for how to do this with the editor? |
| 13:07.16 | deathnight114 | Because i just got it working |
| 13:07.50 | deathnight114 | I'm assuming theres no tutorials for it? |
| 13:07.56 | monoframe | Tutorials for whaT? |
| 13:10.14 | monoframe | And uhm, a rehashed yesterday's wallpaper: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9712/walp1440p.jpg |
| 13:10.14 | monoframe | :34 |
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| 13:10.39 | Lasion | autosave: on |
| 13:10.49 | Lasion | and the first thing I get |
| 13:10.51 | Lasion | "Warning: Autosave failed for 'C:\Users\Ezekiel\Documents\StarCraft II\Maps\Sunken defence 8-way.SC2Map'" |
| 13:11.02 | Lasion | well screw you GE! |
| 13:12.06 | monoframe | you must be sure that those folders are not write-protected |
| 13:12.25 | Lasion | it shouldn't be o_O |
| 13:12.51 | monoframe | then check it |
| 13:13.28 | monoframe | Considering autosave is an automated program process |
| 13:13.31 | monoframe | not directed by you |
| 13:13.39 | monoframe | so those properties of recordability apply |
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| 13:15.22 | Lasion | btw, how do you adjust the brush for the water brush? |
| 13:15.31 | Lasion | it seems to be different from the ground\dirt brush |
| 13:15.39 | monoframe | you do not ahaha |
| 13:15.50 | monoframe | seriously now, you cannot change the water texture's size |
| 13:16.11 | monoframe | well pathing, to be exact |
| 13:16.21 | Lasion | so the water is bound to be a set size? |
| 13:16.34 | monoframe | That is a water tile? |
| 13:16.42 | monoframe | a single water tile? |
| 13:17.14 | Lasion | when I go to the "add water" and choose one of the diff. water types, it always has a set size |
| 13:18.03 | monoframe | uh i don't know, I just use my not so fond memories of the beta water editing tools |
| 13:18.05 | monoframe | D: |
| 13:18.21 | Lasion | mkay >_> |
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| 13:31.03 | ubdead | hello |
| 13:31.17 | ubdead | quiet today i see |
| 13:31.31 | Lasion | was activity earlier today |
| 13:31.39 | ubdead | i see |
| 13:31.42 | Lasion | now I've gone over to mapping |
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| 13:31.57 | Lasion | gonna try to recreate the 8-way cannon defence |
| 13:32.06 | ubdead | i just got the panda avatar, because the 'noob' avatar was reallllly starting to annoy me |
| 13:32.11 | Lasion | hehe |
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| 13:32.24 | Lasion | in other words, you've played the tutorials? |
| 13:32.27 | ubdead | i think the panda avatar is the coolest of all and it's really easy to get |
| 13:32.39 | ubdead | mnnn no 6 challenges |
| 13:32.49 | ubdead | and 9 custom games against AI |
| 13:33.02 | Lasion | aha |
| 13:33.10 | ubdead | should take about an hour |
| 13:33.22 | ubdead | rushing the AI is harder then i tought tho lol |
| 13:33.46 | ubdead | i was going out with reapers, and i nearly lost that game against a Normal AI |
| 13:33.55 | ubdead | (i suck at terran lol) |
| 13:34.00 | ubdead | but still won in the end |
| 13:34.03 | ubdead | thank god |
| 13:34.10 | ubdead | losing to a normal AI |
| 13:34.35 | Hati | ptried co-op ? |
| 13:34.38 | Hati | ubdead |
| 13:34.41 | slightlyrandom | I got the Adjutant avatar, because that thing is plain cool |
| 13:35.01 | ubdead | haven't done coop yet |
| 13:35.31 | ubdead | i guess blizzard stole the piracy scene AI's btw lol |
| 13:35.38 | ubdead | they act almost the same |
| 13:35.56 | slightlyrandom | :D |
| 13:36.50 | ubdead | but my Panda avatar rules all |
| 13:36.58 | ubdead | i remember finding the giant panda in WC3 |
| 13:36.59 | Hati | panda avatar ? |
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| 13:37.06 | slightlyrandom | Panda Marine |
| 13:37.07 | ubdead | i laughed my ass off |
| 13:37.10 | Hati | ah |
| 13:37.36 | slightlyrandom | Pandas are a hideous bunch |
| 13:37.40 | slightlyrandom | Hate em |
| 13:37.44 | ubdead | i fucking love pandas |
| 13:37.49 | ubdead | i want my baby to be a panda |
| 13:37.53 | ubdead | wait- |
| 13:37.58 | Lasion | .. |
| 13:38.05 | Lasion | Bestiality! RAWR! |
| 13:38.21 | ubdead | fucking a panda would be kind of dangerous |
| 13:38.32 | slightlyrandom | http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip.aspx?id=175863d9-7b3a-4575-aef3-98ecec6b6753 |
| 13:38.46 | Lasion | hehe |
| 13:38.53 | Lasion | I love wulffmorgenthaler |
| 13:39.05 | ubdead | rofl wat |
| 13:39.15 | ubdead | that's disburbing lol |
| 13:39.16 | Lasion | http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/default.aspx?id=0ba410c4-a218-4d8b-84f1-93a5d1cb0148 |
| 13:39.25 | ubdead | also watch the nfsw links ;) |
| 13:39.28 | Hati | want to group regions :( |
| 13:39.34 | Hati | with folders and that |
| 13:39.40 | ubdead | ye thats should be good |
| 13:39.51 | ubdead | i think there's an contest for bugs/featues |
| 13:39.56 | ubdead | so post it on the forum |
| 13:40.03 | ubdead | blizzard will most likely read it |
| 13:41.42 | ubdead | nsfw: http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip.aspx?id=719dd566-923e-4b8d-a8b7-8110325c92bd |
| 13:41.45 | ubdead | facepalm.gif |
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| 13:51.06 | Bambi | Whats this about beastiality? |
| 13:51.08 | Bambi | :o |
| 13:51.13 | Unrea1 | Is it possible to Lock the Category of your game type? |
| 13:51.40 | slightlyrandom | Well |
| 13:51.43 | slightlyrandom | You can set it to default |
| 13:51.49 | Unrea1 | Yeah |
| 13:51.56 | Unrea1 | But you can still change it |
| 13:52.01 | slightlyrandom | But they can pick custom no matter what you do, I think |
| 13:52.10 | Unrea1 | >.> |
| 13:52.48 | ubdead | you can lock it |
| 13:52.54 | Unrea1 | How |
| 13:53.02 | ubdead | let me check real quick |
| 13:53.24 | Hati | Unrea1: you can lock some settings |
| 13:53.25 | ubdead | here we go |
| 13:53.28 | Unrea1 | Yeah |
| 13:53.41 | ubdead | map > game variants > attributes > game mode > locked |
| 13:54.09 | Unrea1 | Do i just leave the value as none? |
| 13:54.13 | ubdead | nope |
| 13:54.18 | Bambi | Hey! hey! |
| 13:54.20 | Bambi | Hey! |
| 13:54.20 | ubdead | put it to the game mode you want it to be |
| 13:54.21 | Bambi | Random? |
| 13:54.25 | Bambi | I has question Mr. Random? |
| 13:54.29 | Unrea1 | Private public? |
| 13:54.49 | ubdead | oh wait that aint right |
| 13:55.25 | Bambi | Hey, there was an achievement for attacking something and not being attacked back for 20 seconds right? |
| 13:55.40 | Bambi | So~ how long something has been attacking is trackable, and you can attach a trigger to it, right |
| 13:55.40 | ubdead | ah it's rules |
| 13:55.41 | Bambi | ? |
| 13:55.46 | ubdead | so attributes > rules |
| 13:55.57 | Unrea1 | Default locked |
| 13:56.06 | Unrea1 | I think its just broken |
| 13:56.09 | Unrea1 | Cause you can still change it |
| 13:56.44 | Bambi | raises hand. "Yes, hello? Question? I has?" |
| 13:57.09 | ubdead | well it worked in the beta i guess |
| 13:57.21 | ubdead | because i remember doing it back then |
| 13:57.23 | ubdead | and working |
| 13:57.51 | Unrea1 | Well is it possible, if a player selects a color thats where they spawn? |
| 14:00.05 | ubdead | you can trigger it |
| 14:00.38 | ubdead | if (playerproperty.color == blue) then { create unit at point1 } |
| 14:00.44 | ubdead | something along those lines |
| 14:04.08 | ubdead | im going to do a Game Lobby/Variants/Modes/Attributes tutorial |
| 14:04.51 | slightlyrandom | Nice ubdead |
| 14:04.54 | slightlyrandom | That'd be most handy |
| 14:05.04 | Unrea1 | I I havent even looked at the attributes tab |
| 14:05.07 | slightlyrandom | I can't for the life of me figure out why I can't lock the game speed to normal |
| 14:05.22 | depthsofchaos | random |
| 14:05.22 | ubdead | you can get the attributes you set at the lobby using triggers so |
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| 14:05.24 | slightlyrandom | It keeps setting it to Faster :P |
| 14:05.26 | depthsofchaos | if you use join game |
| 14:05.29 | ubdead | so taking dota for an example |
| 14:05.30 | depthsofchaos | it will be normal |
| 14:05.32 | depthsofchaos | its a bug |
| 14:05.34 | ubdead | you could make a AP mode |
| 14:05.35 | Unrea1 | I think it defaults to faster slighty |
| 14:05.36 | slightlyrandom | ah |
| 14:05.39 | ubdead | and set it in the lobby |
| 14:06.10 | Unrea1 | If you change the game type to custom then change it back it sets it to normal |
| 14:06.12 | ubdead | only problem is that 90% of all mappers still choose to pick a mode ingame |
| 14:06.18 | ubdead | and not in the lobby |
| 14:06.24 | depthsofchaos | cause the lobby is buged |
| 14:06.37 | ubdead | well or it's just not configured right |
| 14:06.42 | ubdead | aka user error |
| 14:06.46 | depthsofchaos | no, its buged |
| 14:06.51 | ubdead | lol xD k |
| 14:06.51 | depthsofchaos | it locks settings |
| 14:07.58 | ubdead | i see |
| 14:11.54 | slightlyrandom | ubdead: If you show me how I can allow players to pick either solo or duo from the lobby |
| 14:12.02 | slightlyrandom | And pick a difficulty, too |
| 14:12.11 | slightlyrandom | I'll gladly remove my dialog system |
| 14:12.57 | slightlyrandom | But, since games auto start now, they added a 30 sec timer before the map starts loading, and I removed that, I figure players are better off now |
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| 14:16.05 | Lasion | they are |
| 14:16.07 | Lasion | ^^ |
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| 14:25.09 | ubdead | nah |
| 14:25.13 | ubdead | put it to 10 secs |
| 14:25.17 | ubdead | imo |
| 14:25.38 | ubdead | but ill make a tutorial |
| 14:25.44 | ubdead | when i finish my testing |
| 14:25.53 | slightlyrandom | Lowest you can get is 3 secs |
| 14:26.27 | slightlyrandom | So, which of the "Jobs done" sounds is most iconic ? |
| 14:26.35 | slightlyrandom | Peasant from WC3 ? |
| 14:26.57 | ubdead | obv lol |
| 14:27.20 | ubdead | mnn seems my publish wont work |
| 14:27.33 | ubdead | validation_working_set_instance_fail |
| 14:27.39 | Unrea1 | Worked for me 5 mins ago |
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| 14:29.17 | Technomancer | thar we go |
| 14:29.50 | ubdead | son of a |
| 14:30.00 | Unrea1 | hmm? |
| 14:30.11 | ubdead | wont publish |
| 14:32.18 | Paras1te | For anyone who didnt see this ;p http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XduXCp91_IA |
| 14:32.37 | Unrea1 | Didnt i link that like 2 days ago :P |
| 14:32.46 | ubdead | indeed |
| 14:32.50 | Paras1te | I wasnt 2 days ago |
| 14:32.51 | ubdead | too much time |
| 14:33.04 | Paras1te | <Paras1te> For anyone who didnt see this ;p |
| 14:33.13 | Unrea1 | So much time |
| 14:33.49 | ubdead | can any of you guys on EU publish right now? |
| 14:33.53 | ubdead | because i cant T_T |
| 14:34.07 | Paras1te | i do |
| 14:34.19 | Unrea1 | Oh |
| 14:34.21 | Unrea1 | Im on NA |
| 14:34.25 | Unrea1 | Could be why :P |
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| 14:34.50 | Lasion | Uh.. |
| 14:35.07 | Lasion | When you upload a map.. license - whut? |
| 14:35.15 | Lasion | I don't know what any of these licenses does\says |
| 14:35.41 | ubdead | it means: "If you upload a map, Blizzard owns your soul for eternity" |
| 14:35.46 | Lasion | Hokay |
| 14:35.50 | ubdead | so np |
| 14:35.52 | Lasion | I'll just go with "all rights" |
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| 14:37.21 | Technomancer | Paras1te: THAT IS EPIC!!! Im a professional lego builder myself, I never conceived of doing in this scale.... I LOVE IT |
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| 14:38.11 | ubdead | lol a proffesional lego builder? |
| 14:38.14 | ubdead | how does that work |
| 14:39.33 | Technomancer | okay, so question |
| 14:39.45 | deathnight114 | hm? |
| 14:39.47 | Technomancer | [00:28] <Technomancer> From: Another obviously noob question; when I copy and paste a unit, I lose the model, textures and unit displays [00:29] <ShadowTiger> technomancer, you need to copy paste the actor and make it point to your new unit |
| 14:40.05 | Technomancer | I was doing it from the lower left drop down, trying to copy the actors.. can someone explain the correct way plz? |
| 14:40.26 | deathnight114 | is it a custom unit? |
| 14:40.28 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 14:40.42 | Technomancer | yes |
| 14:40.52 | deathnight114 | i cant help you with that |
| 14:40.54 | deathnight114 | :| |
| 14:41.03 | deathnight114 | Im only just learning triggers |
| 14:41.27 | Technomancer | hmmm |
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| 14:42.22 | deathnight114 | uhh... |
| 14:42.34 | deathnight114 | okay so i've gotten units spawning and attacking eathother |
| 14:42.57 | Lasion | any admin online atm that can approve my map-project? :D |
| 14:43.00 | deathnight114 | I want it so that if i build a zealot from a gateway, then it will add another five zealots to my current amount? |
| 14:43.13 | deathnight114 | any idea how i would go about that? |
| 14:43.30 | deathnight114 | wait... i think i know how... hold on |
| 14:44.27 | bttf | is there a channel for just general sc2 business |
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| 14:47.20 | monoframe | "sc2 business" |
| 14:47.24 | monoframe | WHATTA YA BUYIN? |
| 14:47.28 | monoframe | WHATTA YA SELLIN? |
| 14:47.53 | Lazbro | 20 games per hour - $10 |
| 14:47.58 | Lazbro | 50 games per hour - $30 |
| 14:48.02 | Lazbro | front page - $200 |
| 14:48.09 | ubdead | you get money for every game played? |
| 14:48.21 | ubdead | or for each unique player that downloads it? |
| 14:48.57 | Lazbro | [16:47]<monoframe>"sc2 business" |
| 14:49.20 | SixTwo | is there any easy way to export textures ? i'm struggling to find the texture browser in the editor |
| 14:49.58 | monoframe | SixTwo, try searching for WC3 Image Extractor |
| 14:49.59 | monoframe | or wait |
| 14:50.06 | Unrea1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYlAPq_Svtk |
| 14:50.21 | monoframe | I don't think it supports dds format S: |
| 14:50.30 | monoframe | no does not |
| 14:52.25 | SixTwo | hmm, there has to be a way, I can kinda see the images if i go to data then textures then browse on any of the textures, but when i want to export it says filename not valid |
| 14:52.40 | SixTwo | cant export them as .dds |
| 14:53.40 | monoframe | Well then use MPQ Editor |
| 14:54.23 | SixTwo | I have one from ladik or something I think, but it only opens .mpq files and .sc2map, not .sc2data |
| 14:55.13 | ubdead | sixTwo |
| 14:55.18 | ubdead | those are MPQ |
| 14:55.23 | ubdead | just rename the extension |
| 14:55.49 | ubdead | (and make sure you didnt saved them optimized for size, that might not work) |
| 14:56.14 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/return-fleet-i/. Return of the Fleet - I. ForgottenKane (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 14:56.25 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/cannon-defence-8-way/. Cannon Defence 8-way. Ezekiel1986 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 14:59.14 | SixTwo | so rename base,sc2data to .mpq ? |
| 14:59.33 | Unrea1 | ^ |
| 14:59.37 | Lasion | woot |
| 14:59.42 | Lasion | can upload my map now ^^ |
| 15:00.12 | Lasion | or well.. claim rights to it |
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| 15:01.55 | Fisker | why would you rename the extension? |
| 15:02.07 | Fisker | herp herp i need to rename all my files to .txt to open them in notepad |
| 15:02.09 | Fisker | >:3 |
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| 15:03.51 | Fisker | LOL |
| 15:03.54 | Fisker | battlefield 3 |
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| 15:06.21 | SixTwo | cheers ubdead renaming them worked great :) |
| 15:07.04 | ubdead | ;D |
| 15:07.20 | deathnight114 | hm. |
| 15:07.39 | deathnight114 | Is there any way we can be granted recources whenever we get a certain number of kills? |
| 15:09.07 | depthsofchaos | count unit kills ?:o |
| 15:09.19 | deathnight114 | i'm a noob alright |
| 15:09.21 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 15:09.36 | Lasion | ^^ |
| 15:09.39 | Lasion | in a way, we all are |
| 15:09.45 | deathnight114 | once player A Reaches 50 kills grand 25 minerals |
| 15:10.00 | deathnight114 | once player B Reaches 150 kills grant 25 minerals |
| 15:10.03 | deathnight114 | is pretty much what i want |
| 15:10.16 | monoframe | Nothing special, you just need to have an event that would check for kills |
| 15:10.18 | ubdead | battlecraft clone detected |
| 15:10.19 | deathnight114 | player B Is 50 |
| 15:10.26 | deathnight114 | uhh |
| 15:10.28 | deathnight114 | no... |
| 15:10.31 | ubdead | ;) |
| 15:10.36 | ubdead | there is an event |
| 15:10.39 | deathnight114 | pretty much it's zeals vs zerglings at start |
| 15:10.41 | ubdead | unit kills unit |
| 15:10.50 | ubdead | when the event triggers |
| 15:10.54 | ubdead | do something like |
| 15:11.08 | monoframe | On Condition (playerkills(player0) equals 50) give 24grandminerals to (owner of the (triggering unit)) |
| 15:11.10 | monoframe | something like this :P |
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| 15:11.22 | depthsofchaos | you could do it with data editor too if you made the units get 1 experience per kill |
| 15:11.26 | ubdead | right lol |
| 15:11.27 | depthsofchaos | level up on 10 exp :O |
| 15:11.29 | Pychnight | heys :P |
| 15:11.35 | Pychnight | awake? |
| 15:11.37 | depthsofchaos | hi |
| 15:11.53 | Pychnight | i completed the model swaping test. |
| 15:12.17 | depthsofchaos | and? |
| 15:12.38 | deathnight114 | wait... |
| 15:12.41 | deathnight114 | where is it? |
| 15:12.43 | deathnight114 | what's it called? |
| 15:12.51 | deathnight114 | and depth it's not experiance |
| 15:13.36 | Pychnight | it's interesting :) and it defently gives the transformation system a more unique presective but i still need to find some way to change the unit name, icon. |
| 15:13.46 | deathnight114 | wait |
| 15:13.49 | deathnight114 | I'm not getting this... |
| 15:14.01 | Technomancer | any experts on? |
| 15:14.20 | depthsofchaos | you get exp from kills |
| 15:14.27 | depthsofchaos | make 1 exp for 1 kill |
| 15:14.42 | Unrea1 | Seems like a small ammount :O |
| 15:14.52 | deathnight114 | anyone gonna answer me? |
| 15:15.00 | deathnight114 | :( |
| 15:15.07 | depthsofchaos | answer what |
| 15:15.08 | slightlyrandom | They have |
| 15:15.13 | slightlyrandom | Make a kill counter |
| 15:15.22 | deathnight114 | I dont know how |
| 15:15.22 | slightlyrandom | Increase it each time a unit matching a condition dies |
| 15:15.23 | deathnight114 | :| |
| 15:15.28 | depthsofchaos | pychnight well too bad, i dont know how to solve your morph bug :/ |
| 15:15.29 | slightlyrandom | Go watch a tutorial on trigger |
| 15:15.30 | slightlyrandom | ss |
| 15:15.52 | depthsofchaos | just use stacking buffs |
| 15:15.58 | depthsofchaos | buff level reaches 10 |
| 15:16.06 | depthsofchaos | reset buffs give mineral |
| 15:16.18 | slightlyrandom | depthsofchaos: That only works for a one on one scenario |
| 15:16.31 | slightlyrandom | Or, a one on many, rather |
| 15:16.46 | depthsofchaos | why |
| 15:17.22 | Lasion | is it bad to upload a completely unfinished map as "Alpha" just to show people a general idea of my map? |
| 15:18.00 | deathnight114 | where can i find a tutorial? |
| 15:18.16 | Pychnight | yeah, the morphing bug yeah i don't mind the model swaping it's cool :D but i still wanna give it a new unit name in the egg "state" |
| 15:18.22 | Pychnight | is this possible? |
| 15:18.32 | Pychnight | with out morph |
| 15:18.39 | depthsofchaos | well youd need triggers |
| 15:18.45 | slightlyrandom | Can you assign weights sounds ? |
| 15:18.58 | depthsofchaos | meh no its not possible even with triggers :O |
| 15:19.01 | depthsofchaos | realized |
| 15:19.16 | Pychnight | ._. |
| 15:19.43 | Pychnight | hmm let me check ^^; |
| 15:20.20 | slightlyrandom | There is a sound weight |
| 15:20.26 | slightlyrandom | But it's greyed out :( |
| 15:20.27 | ubdead | Lasion yes |
| 15:20.43 | ubdead | Lasion release when done, not ANY sooner |
| 15:20.51 | ubdead | people will give your map only one shot |
| 15:20.56 | ubdead | and it better be good |
| 15:21.02 | Lasion | righty'o |
| 15:21.17 | depthsofchaos | just rename it on release :o |
| 15:21.23 | ubdead | rofl fair enough |
| 15:21.36 | Lasion | 2'nd question - why can't I find the goliath\firebat\anything used in the campaign in the "units" section? |
| 15:22.11 | ubdead | add the correct dependicy |
| 15:22.26 | ubdead | file > dependicies |
| 15:22.35 | ubdead | ~spell dependicy |
| 15:22.53 | ubdead | sure that helped purl, nawt |
| 15:23.00 | Unrea1 | lol... |
| 15:23.17 | Megalon | dependency are the droids you're looking for |
| 15:23.22 | Lazbro | Lasion: don't add both dependencies or the map can't be internationalised |
| 15:23.35 | slightlyrandom | dependency <-- dependencies |
| 15:24.21 | Lasion | right |
| 15:24.39 | Lasion | so file - dependecies - liberty.sc2mod or libertymulti.sc2mod? |
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| 15:25.02 | Lasion | Acctually.. looks like it's crashing either way |
| 15:25.11 | ubdead | ah so you'll need a mod? |
| 15:25.46 | Lasion | What I want is to add the Goliath \ Firebat \ Medic units |
| 15:25.49 | Lasion | to my map |
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| 15:32.42 | Technomancer | that would be Campaign I think |
| 15:32.46 | Technomancer | add Liberty Campaign |
| 15:33.33 | Lasion | ah thanks! |
| 15:37.37 | ubdead | you need a mod Lasion |
| 15:37.44 | ubdead | or you cant publish it right |
| 15:37.52 | ubdead | (i think) |
| 15:38.20 | Lasion | I found it :) |
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| 15:45.46 | ubdead | any sc2mapster forum admin online? |
| 15:45.50 | ubdead | sixen |
| 15:45.51 | ubdead | vjeux |
| 15:45.54 | ubdead | grum |
| 15:45.56 | ubdead | hati |
| 15:46.04 | Hati | ? |
| 15:46.06 | ubdead | hi |
| 15:46.25 | ubdead | im looking to make a new tutorial, can i post it in the tutorial section while it's still under construction? |
| 15:46.40 | slightlyrandom | Why would you? |
| 15:46.50 | ubdead | because i need to type as i go |
| 15:46.58 | slightlyrandom | Text Editor? :) |
| 15:47.05 | Hati | why not - as long as you don't post "text comes here ..." |
| 15:47.16 | Hati | and update / finish quickly |
| 15:47.22 | ubdead | yea planning on today |
| 15:47.31 | ubdead | might be a very large tutorial lol |
| 15:47.34 | Hati | or you send yourself a pm/make a page in a project |
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| 15:48.17 | Dedo | hey all |
| 15:48.29 | goomba_ | sup |
| 15:48.46 | Dedo | all's good |
| 15:49.33 | ubdead | so where should i leave images? |
| 15:49.46 | ubdead | for using in the post |
| 15:49.52 | ubdead | cant seem to attach them? |
| 15:50.04 | goomba_ | i think if you put the direct link |
| 15:50.07 | goomba_ | it makes a thumbnail |
| 15:50.29 | ubdead | ah ill just put them on my own hosting |
| 15:50.47 | ubdead | imageshack may take them down some day |
| 15:51.48 | slightlyrandom | Silly sound cuts off before it's done |
| 15:51.55 | slightlyrandom | Run through triggers |
| 15:52.02 | goomba_ | 2 more people on board for the campaign |
| 15:52.04 | goomba_ | whos next??? |
| 15:52.18 | depthsofchaos | was armor type bonus damage fraction always in the editor?:o |
| 15:52.33 | RodOfNOD | ubdead: i would recommend agtainst typing in the web editor cuz if u fuck up and hit the wrong button or it crashes u will LOSE all ur work it happened to me, so make it in a text editor where u can spell check |
| 15:52.47 | RodOfNOD | let me look depth |
| 15:52.49 | ubdead | ye im using notepad lol |
| 15:52.51 | slightlyrandom | There is spell check in web browsers |
| 15:52.59 | slightlyrandom | But the rest is sound advice |
| 15:53.21 | RodOfNOD | can you add words to the spell checker? |
| 15:53.43 | slightlyrandom | Yes |
| 15:54.09 | slightlyrandom | Doesn't your operating system have a system wide spellchecker ? |
| 15:54.31 | RodOfNOD | idk |
| 15:54.34 | RodOfNOD | i have win 7 |
| 15:54.45 | slightlyrandom | It's a pretty nifty thing |
| 15:54.58 | goomba_ | wooooo time for more lego universe |
| 15:55.21 | goomba_ | closed beta bitches |
| 15:56.20 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 15:56.29 | depthsofchaos | i envy you so much :/ |
| 15:56.29 | RodOfNOD | goomba_: uh like u have sc2 |
| 15:56.29 | slightlyrandom | Some of us have SC2 to toy around with |
| 15:56.32 | depthsofchaos | not.. |
| 15:56.55 | RodOfNOD | goomba_: is a game slut |
| 15:56.57 | goomba_ | oh sc2 that game |
| 15:57.00 | goomba_ | meh |
| 15:57.04 | goomba_ | it was ok |
| 15:57.10 | goomba_ | now its all about the LU |
| 15:57.11 | RodOfNOD | doesnt care about sticking around after he had his fun |
| 15:57.13 | depthsofchaos | tho i wouldnt throw away a kotor invitation :o |
| 15:57.21 | slightlyrandom | SWTOR? |
| 15:57.27 | depthsofchaos | ye that |
| 15:57.28 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, that'd be alright |
| 15:57.30 | goomba_ | i apply to like every beta of everything |
| 15:57.33 | goomba_ | though i did buy into sc2 :P |
| 15:58.17 | depthsofchaos | i earned my key in a contest of epic talent |
| 15:59.03 | slightlyrandom | Didnt everyone that applied get in ? |
| 15:59.24 | slightlyrandom | I found out there was a beta, applied, and got in half a week later |
| 15:59.25 | depthsofchaos | no :pPP only 5 out of 100 :p |
| 15:59.32 | depthsofchaos | i mean in the contest |
| 15:59.38 | Fisker | can you add AI to a map when you need to test something? |
| 15:59.40 | slightlyrandom | yeah, right |
| 15:59.46 | slightlyrandom | Depends Fisker |
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| 16:00.02 | Fa7 | hey guys whats up |
| 16:00.05 | depthsofchaos | i dont know if everibody got in but definetly not in february |
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| 16:00.14 | depthsofchaos | maybe in june |
| 16:00.19 | goomba_ | april was when it went public |
| 16:00.20 | goomba_ | aka |
| 16:00.24 | goomba_ | you could get a key with preorder |
| 16:00.26 | goomba_ | 4/21 |
| 16:00.28 | Fa7 | whats up everyone. What is everyone doing today |
| 16:00.38 | goomba_ | hi |
| 16:00.43 | Fa7 | hey :) |
| 16:01.14 | slightlyrandom | Beating this sound system into submission |
| 16:01.23 | Fa7 | ive been working on a map but i dont own sc2. I have the 7 hour guest pass and was wondering how i can upload my map for others tot est for me |
| 16:01.25 | Fa7 | to test* |
| 16:01.29 | slightlyrandom | Is what I'd like to say, but so far I'm the one getting pummeled |
| 16:01.38 | Fa7 | lol nice |
| 16:01.47 | slightlyrandom | No idea if you can Fa7 |
| 16:01.56 | Fa7 | i cant publish it says |
| 16:02.03 | Fa7 | becasue i dont have the liscnesed version |
| 16:02.05 | slightlyrandom | Well, I can publish it for you, if you're on the EU side |
| 16:02.17 | slightlyrandom | But, then you lose the rights to that particular name |
| 16:02.22 | Fa7 | well its not complete yet i just wanted some testers and ideas |
| 16:02.42 | slightlyrandom | I'll upload it for you if you're on EU |
| 16:02.45 | Fa7 | im ion us west |
| 16:02.47 | Fa7 | btw |
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| 17:44.57 | ubdead | ye ok the custom mode thing cant be helped |
| 17:45.03 | ubdead | unless your map has one player |
| 17:45.11 | ubdead | which is nearly never |
| 17:45.41 | ubdead | pretty retarded imoi |
| 17:46.35 | got_Ammo | has anyone ever gotten "sc2game_internal_error" when trying to create a custom game on b.net? |
| 17:47.46 | slightlyrandomEU | :P |
| 17:48.07 | Unrea1|NA | Slightly it think its linked to Terran Infanty Armors |
| 17:49.37 | slightlyrandomEU | Hm? |
| 17:49.45 | Unrea1|NA | The armor on a unit |
| 17:49.51 | Unrea1|NA | For a marine |
| 17:49.59 | Unrea1|NA | Just using it as a test |
| 17:50.37 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/icons-reconnaissance-natives-tutorials/ |
| 17:51.02 | slightlyrandomEU | Not quite sure I follow |
| 17:51.51 | slightlyrandomEU | Unit/LifeArmorName/TerranInfantryArmor <-- that link what you mean ? |
| 17:52.47 | Unrea1|NA | No if you look in the upgrades tab for the marine theres something calle "Terran Infantry Armors" |
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| 17:58.46 | mahashiro | hi everyone |
| 17:58.50 | Unrea1|NA | Yo |
| 17:58.55 | mahashiro | does anyone know how to get armor not to display? |
| 17:58.59 | mahashiro | I have some units without it |
| 17:59.04 | mahashiro | and I don't want it to show as 0 |
| 17:59.17 | Unrea1|NA | Thats not random |
| 17:59.26 | Unrea1|NA | We were just talking about that |
| 17:59.33 | mahashiro | oh lol |
| 17:59.35 | mahashiro | I just logged on |
| 17:59.46 | mahashiro | hmm |
| 17:59.46 | Technomancer | hello laddies and lasses |
| 17:59.51 | Unrea1|NA | Yo |
| 17:59.55 | Technomancer | is From in? |
| 18:01.43 | slightlyrandomEU | Unrea1|NA: That upgrade place wouldn't explain why the Protoss Buildings have an icon |
| 18:01.53 | slightlyrandomEU | Since protoss buildings can't have their armor upgraded |
| 18:01.59 | Hati | http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1919/terrain001.jpg doing symmetrical terrain is pain ... |
| 18:02.15 | slightlyrandomEU | Tell me about it Hati |
| 18:02.33 | slightlyrandomEU | I ended up spending a good three hours measuring shit with supply depots |
| 18:03.19 | slightlyrandomEU | mahashiro: If you figure out how to remove Armor Icons, let me know, would ya? :) |
| 18:03.27 | Hati | i just used arrow keys for ways |
| 18:03.38 | Technomancer | So Fromethius isn't in right now... are there any other SC2 editor-savvy people in here now? |
| 18:03.44 | Fromethius | ? |
| 18:03.47 | Fromethius | hi |
| 18:03.48 | Technomancer | oh |
| 18:03.49 | slightlyrandomEU | Just ask Technomancer |
| 18:03.52 | Hati | ~seen Fromethius |
| 18:03.55 | purl | fromethius is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 8s, last said: 'hi'. |
| 18:03.55 | slightlyrandomEU | The channel is full of em |
| 18:03.59 | Technomancer | well earlier it wasnt |
| 18:04.03 | Technomancer | I asked and got no reply |
| 18:04.05 | Technomancer | twice |
| 18:04.06 | Technomancer | anyway |
| 18:04.08 | Technomancer | here we go |
| 18:04.08 | slightlyrandomEU | Ooooh |
| 18:04.10 | slightlyrandomEU | Scary |
| 18:04.25 | Fromethius | what's up technomancer |
| 18:04.26 | Technomancer | [00:28] <Technomancer> From: Another obviously noob question; when I copy and paste a unit, I lose the model, textures and unit displays [00:29] <ShadowTiger> technomancer, you need to copy paste the actor and make it point to your new unit |
| 18:04.31 | Technomancer | my question is |
| 18:04.47 | Technomancer | how do I get the actor info over so my new unit has a model, texture and unit UI |
| 18:04.52 | Fromethius | ok |
| 18:05.01 | Technomancer | this is froma copy/pasted unit that I renamed |
| 18:05.02 | Fromethius | do you know what an actor is? |
| 18:05.09 | Technomancer | I see it in the lower-left dropdown |
| 18:05.14 | Technomancer | but copy/pasting from there doesnt work |
| 18:05.20 | Fromethius | it's important that you understand actors |
| 18:05.24 | Fromethius | they are the visual link of the game |
| 18:05.37 | Technomancer | I assumed so, but im not sure how to work with em |
| 18:05.40 | Fromethius | when you duplicate a unit, you must also duplicate its actor |
| 18:05.56 | Technomancer | and that doesnt happen automatically, does it? |
| 18:05.56 | Fromethius | right click duplicate object |
| 18:06.07 | Technomancer | what do I right click on? |
| 18:06.14 | Fromethius | what unit are you duplicating? |
| 18:06.26 | Technomancer | Firebat I think |
| 18:06.28 | Fromethius | ok |
| 18:06.36 | Fromethius | so you go to the units tab and find firebat |
| 18:06.43 | Fromethius | right click on it, hit duplicate object |
| 18:06.50 | Fromethius | and check the actor for it |
| 18:06.56 | Technomancer | yes |
| 18:07.09 | Fromethius | you only need to check the main actor |
| 18:07.32 | Fromethius | no viralplasma or firebattreekiller stuff |
| 18:07.34 | Fromethius | that's not important |
| 18:07.44 | Fromethius | tell me when you get that far |
| 18:07.46 | Technomancer | you mean the one that contains the subdirectory |
| 18:07.52 | Technomancer | or the top of the list? |
| 18:07.58 | Fromethius | i'll just take a picture |
| 18:08.02 | Technomancer | no nono |
| 18:08.24 | Technomancer | is it the Actors one that contains the subgroup, or is tit the one called Firebat (Firebat) with the unit icon? |
| 18:08.32 | Technomancer | is it* lol |
| 18:08.41 | Fromethius | http://imgur.com/PVHde.png |
| 18:08.48 | Fromethius | do that |
| 18:09.46 | Technomancer | okay |
| 18:10.04 | Technomancer | I have to do a new map because now im seeing all the actors for Firebat and Firebat2 |
| 18:10.07 | Technomancer | but I know what you mean |
| 18:10.10 | Fromethius | yeah |
| 18:10.11 | Technomancer | so 2 sec |
| 18:10.26 | Unrea1|NA | slightlyrandomEU When you turn a building Invun the armor goes away |
| 18:10.38 | Technomancer | is there a help guide online? I wouldnt be buggin ya all so much if I had a resource to go off of |
| 18:10.39 | Unrea1|NA | so i would assume its linked to the unit flags some where |
| 18:10.51 | Fromethius | forums.sc2mapster.com has a lot of tutorials |
| 18:10.57 | Technomancer | oh |
| 18:11.01 | Fromethius | and if you go to youtube there are a lot of beginner tutorials as well |
| 18:11.10 | Fromethius | i don't mind helping though. i am not doing anything at the moment |
| 18:11.15 | Technomancer | saw one that was only one-faceted |
| 18:11.23 | Technomancer | did they get all this info from beta? |
| 18:11.56 | Fromethius | what do you mean by info? |
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| 18:12.09 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/niflheim-test-icesnow/. Niflheim Test (Ice,Snow). gurluas (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 18:12.11 | Technomancer | the how-tos for the map editor? |
| 18:12.23 | Technomancer | I mean u guys didnt just start tuesday right? |
| 18:12.27 | monoframe | Most were done back in beta |
| 18:12.28 | Fromethius | i never played the original starcraft but i'd assume most people learned about the new editor from having used that and just from intuition and trial and error |
| 18:12.30 | Technomancer | yeah |
| 18:12.32 | Unrea1|NA | Beta |
| 18:12.34 | monoframe | Doesn't matter really |
| 18:13.07 | Technomancer | never liked the old one.. was hoping they'd try to do more like WC3, anyway, ok im @ where ou highlighted on the png, do I just hit OK? |
| 18:13.18 | Fromethius | yes |
| 18:13.22 | Fromethius | if that's all you want to duplicate |
| 18:13.28 | Fromethius | do you want to change its damage at all? |
| 18:13.36 | Fromethius | do you know how duplication works? |
| 18:13.39 | monoframe | I think even some old tutorials pre-beta-GE on .xml files were done |
| 18:13.44 | monoframe | I mean, still are there |
| 18:13.46 | monoframe | in the repository |
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| 18:16.24 | Technomancer | not really |
| 18:16.28 | Technomancer | I mean |
| 18:16.32 | Fromethius | alright i am going to teach you now |
| 18:16.41 | Technomancer | I probably would want to change it |
| 18:17.06 | Fromethius | when duplicate something you are doing just that, duplicating it. but notice how by default only the unit is checked. this means that only the unit is being duplicated and everything else is just being referenced |
| 18:17.46 | Fromethius | so if you change the damage on the new unit, the damage on the old unit will change as well, because since you did not duplicate the Effect for damage (remember you only duplicated the unit) it is linking back to the original |
| 18:17.59 | Fromethius | so if you change one of them, they both change |
| 18:18.01 | Technomancer | so if I wanted to truly edit everything, i'd checke verthing |
| 18:18.04 | Fromethius | no |
| 18:18.11 | Fromethius | because some things you do not want to duplicate |
| 18:18.17 | Fromethius | why duplicate models and sounds? |
| 18:18.22 | Technomancer | well |
| 18:18.30 | Technomancer | what if I wantd to create a new model in maya, or edit the existing one? |
| 18:18.35 | Technomancer | i am a 3d artist |
| 18:18.45 | Fromethius | then you would |
| 18:18.45 | AsaPhelps | if you want a compeltely new unit you could make one from scratch |
| 18:18.49 | Technomancer | it's good to at least know you can lol |
| 18:18.51 | Fromethius | yeah that too |
| 18:19.05 | Technomancer | well slow down, not quite there yet :P |
| 18:19.13 | Fromethius | yeah but for the most part when duplicating a unit you want to duplicate its actor |
| 18:19.13 | AsaPhelps | when you edit stuff it usually says the original and makes yours green |
| 18:19.17 | AsaPhelps | saves |
| 18:19.22 | Fromethius | if you want to change the damage on something you want to duplicate the effect damage and its weapon |
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| 18:20.18 | Fromethius | rarely/never do you ever duplicate its validators, upgrades, sounds, models, requirements, movers, models, behaviors, or abilities |
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| 18:20.37 | Fromethius | for the most part it's check the main actor, and then check its weapon and effects if you want to change its damage |
| 18:20.41 | Fromethius | that will get you quite far |
| 18:20.47 | ekcolnvkol | WIIII-YAWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:20.54 | ekcolnvkol | karate kicks Fromethius in the throat |
| 18:20.59 | Fromethius | hi |
| 18:21.13 | ekcolnovkol | hai |
| 18:21.14 | ekcolnovkol | :o |
| 18:21.20 | ubdead | updated: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ |
| 18:21.23 | Fromethius | how's your dota clone coming along |
| 18:21.31 | ekcolnovkol | it's not a dota clone :( |
| 18:21.37 | ekcolnovkol | it's a dota-HNGGGHHHHHHHHH |
| 18:21.41 | Fromethius | oh, sorry, lol |
| 18:21.46 | ubdead | going to Mac. MAC DONALDS |
| 18:21.52 | ubdead | brb 45 mins |
| 18:21.59 | ekcolnovkol | IN CHINA |
| 18:22.07 | ekcolnovkol | they call it mac danalds |
| 18:22.43 | Fromethius | people people in china eat kfc with knives or something |
| 18:22.46 | Fromethius | don't people* |
| 18:22.58 | ekcolnovkol | lawl |
| 18:23.12 | ekcolnovkol | we get ramen at kfc :> |
| 18:23.18 | Fromethius | ooh |
| 18:23.20 | Fromethius | fancy |
| 18:23.23 | ekcolnovkol | hell |
| 18:23.26 | ekcolnovkol | we get ramen anywhere |
| 18:23.32 | ekcolnovkol | even burger king servers ramen |
| 18:23.41 | Fromethius | heh, didn't know that |
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| 18:26.46 | Technomancer | had a crash |
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| 18:27.31 | ekcolnovkol | sixen |
| 18:27.37 | ekcolnovkol | do you know a trustworthy relocalizer? |
| 18:27.49 | Fromethius | technomancer did you get my duplication explanation or did you crash before that? |
| 18:28.07 | ubdead|eating | also vjexu |
| 18:28.13 | ubdead|eating | <h5> is black |
| 18:28.16 | ubdead|eating | black on grey |
| 18:28.19 | ubdead|eating | is not so great |
| 18:28.33 | ubdead|eating | oh wait it's h6 |
| 18:28.44 | Technomancer | hmm I get to the point there are things you have to duplicate, some you probably dont want to, and some you can if you want to change, like damage, display, etc.... thats all really |
| 18:28.59 | Technomancer | can you copy/paste last thigns you said? |
| 18:29.11 | Fromethius | i'll pm you |
| 18:29.44 | ubdead|eating | also vjeux for readability you could space the <li> lines a but more |
| 18:30.40 | ubdead|eating | 3px padding on <li> fixes it |
| 18:30.51 | ubdead|eating | oh i missed the vjeux tag |
| 18:31.03 | ubdead|eating | ok afk for real now lol |
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| 18:34.17 | ekcolnovkol | i don't think he's here |
| 18:35.19 | RodOfNOD | has anyone figured out a good easy way to do dynamic command cards? |
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| 18:37.31 | Unrea1|NA | ubdead |
| 18:37.33 | Unrea1|NA | Quick fix |
| 18:37.47 | depthsofchaos | rod the ability limit is 32 |
| 18:37.49 | Unrea1|NA | 11.Go to the Attributes tab. is Variants tab |
| 18:37.55 | depthsofchaos | you can do semi dynamic :p |
| 18:38.10 | RodOfNOD | well that is one issue |
| 18:38.22 | RodOfNOD | what im talking about is having a unit be trained from any of the 15 slots |
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| 18:38.43 | depthsofchaos | youd have to put the button on every slot |
| 18:38.47 | depthsofchaos | and hide it |
| 18:38.50 | RodOfNOD | of course |
| 18:38.54 | depthsofchaos | depending on the requirements :o |
| 18:38.55 | RodOfNOD | but thats a major pain |
| 18:38.56 | RodOfNOD | in the arse |
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| 18:39.12 | RodOfNOD | i have 100s of units to choose from potentially |
| 18:39.15 | depthsofchaos | no other way :o |
| 18:39.21 | RodOfNOD | i dont accept that |
| 18:39.30 | RodOfNOD | there is a way if blizzard would fix the catalog routine |
| 18:39.45 | RodOfNOD | the upgrades shows we can change the ICON and name of a button |
| 18:39.50 | RodOfNOD | but for some reason it doesnt do it |
| 18:39.54 | ekcolnovkol | hey |
| 18:39.55 | depthsofchaos | how would that help |
| 18:39.57 | ekcolnovkol | does anyone know the list of regions |
| 18:40.00 | ekcolnovkol | for starcraft II |
| 18:40.01 | depthsofchaos | ah |
| 18:40.07 | RodOfNOD | it would completely solve the problem |
| 18:40.12 | ekcolnovkol | anyone? :I |
| 18:40.15 | RodOfNOD | cuz u can change the tooltip and pricing etc |
| 18:40.23 | depthsofchaos | well youd have to change the linked ability too |
| 18:40.29 | RodOfNOD | so? |
| 18:40.32 | RodOfNOD | that u can do |
| 18:40.37 | RodOfNOD | its just the damn icon u cant |
| 18:40.44 | RodOfNOD | and yet it says u can |
| 18:40.56 | RodOfNOD | im doing it all via trigger so |
| 18:41.57 | mahashiro | you can do it w/ the unit description |
| 18:42.00 | mahashiro | for the tooltip rod |
| 18:42.06 | RodOfNOD | yes so? |
| 18:42.08 | RodOfNOD | i need the icon |
| 18:42.15 | RodOfNOD | without the icons its wortlhless |
| 18:42.33 | mahashiro | sorry I didn't know what you were asking |
| 18:42.46 | RodOfNOD | np |
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| 18:44.40 | Saeris1 | hey ekco, you work on balance some more this patch? |
| 18:44.51 | ekcolnovkol | yes |
| 18:44.56 | ekcolnovkol | people were killing archon at level 6 |
| 18:45.01 | ekcolnovkol | with unix |
| 18:45.05 | Saeris1 | yea |
| 18:45.08 | ekcolnovkol | so it was more of an emergency patch |
| 18:45.15 | Saeris1 | i got raped one game by this hero that makes auto turrets |
| 18:45.19 | Saeris1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.27 | ekcolnovkol | eh darpa is really slow |
| 18:45.35 | Saeris1 | and by raped, i mean at lvl 1 he killed my entire team |
| 18:45.36 | ekcolnovkol | but his turrets attack slower and are reduced by armor now |
| 18:45.41 | ekcolnovkol | <.< wat? |
| 18:45.45 | Saeris1 | yea |
| 18:45.48 | ekcolnovkol | how is that possible |
| 18:45.52 | Saeris1 | we couldn't get near them |
| 18:45.56 | ekcolnovkol | ah |
| 18:45.57 | Saeris1 | they did too much dmg |
| 18:46.07 | ekcolnovkol | those were ignoring armor, that's why |
| 18:46.13 | Saeris1 | yea |
| 18:46.15 | ekcolnovkol | but it's been fixed since... two patches ago? |
| 18:46.22 | Saeris1 | alright, cool |
| 18:46.26 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 18:46.31 | ekcolnovkol | btw |
| 18:46.32 | Saeris1 | after that i was just like, yea fuck this |
| 18:46.34 | Saeris1 | not worth it atm |
| 18:46.35 | ekcolnovkol | do you know a list of the regions |
| 18:46.38 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 18:46.56 | Saeris1 | um |
| 18:47.17 | Saeris1 | well there is a regions list when you're on the regions layer |
| 18:47.24 | ekcolnovkol | .. |
| 18:47.25 | ekcolnovkol | like |
| 18:47.29 | ekcolnovkol | north ameria |
| 18:47.31 | ekcolnovkol | europe |
| 18:47.31 | ekcolnovkol | asia |
| 18:47.32 | ekcolnovkol | oceanic |
| 18:47.35 | ekcolnovkol | taiwan |
| 18:47.37 | ekcolnovkol | korea |
| 18:47.38 | ekcolnovkol | etc |
| 18:47.44 | Saeris1 | oh |
| 18:47.51 | Saeris1 | that |
| 18:47.52 | Saeris1 | um |
| 18:48.05 | Kakera | http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Planets |
| 18:48.17 | ekcolnovkol | .. |
| 18:48.18 | ekcolnovkol | wat |
| 18:48.22 | Kakera | There are a -lot- of planets. >.> |
| 18:48.24 | Saeris1 | no i don't really know of one like that, other than the Localization list in the publishing menu |
| 18:48.32 | Saeris1 | but i think it only lists the one you're in |
| 18:48.35 | Saeris1 | which is dumb |
| 18:49.01 | Kakera | Ever heard of Pho-Rekh? |
| 18:49.23 | Kakera | It's one of those obscure planets. |
| 18:49.58 | ubdead|eating | Unrea1|NA ehm no its attributes |
| 18:50.16 | Unrea1|NA | Yeah i gotcha |
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| 18:50.51 | Pierrot | Hi all |
| 18:50.54 | ubdead|eating | hi |
| 18:51.08 | Pierrot | I lost my scv fortress map ... |
| 18:51.13 | Kakera | Anyone here got good mapmaking skills and isn't working on any particular project at the moment? |
| 18:57.57 | RodOfNOD | what do u mean u lost it? |
| 19:00.46 | ubdead|eating | check your pockets |
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| 19:05.37 | AsaPhelps | what are you making kakera |
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| 19:09.00 | AsaPhelps | some type of map i'd imagine |
| 19:10.02 | Kakera | Well |
| 19:10.37 | Kakera | I'm really bad at making maps, but the solo-hero campaign is a project I'd like to see aboard on the custom map list. |
| 19:11.07 | Kakera | The only thing I'm good at is designing stuff. Like item ideas, storyline, and all that jazz. |
| 19:12.19 | RedWraith | Kakera, you'd be surprised |
| 19:12.24 | RedWraith | how many people here lack that skill. |
| 19:12.41 | Kakera | I'm kinda like just a half of a mapmaker. |
| 19:12.44 | RedWraith | That is, assuming you're more like a muse and less like a 'GET MY IDEA DONE OR IM GONNA COMPLAIN' |
| 19:13.01 | RedWraith | hate those people so much |
| 19:13.02 | RodOfNOD | whats a good color to indicate something has been changed |
| 19:13.02 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 19:13.08 | RedWraith | red |
| 19:13.11 | RedWraith | green too |
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| 19:13.39 | Triceron | Hey all |
| 19:13.43 | RodOfNOD | hi |
| 19:13.46 | RodOfNOD | where u been hiding |
| 19:13.47 | Kakera | I don't mind making compromises, but I research my stuff before suggesting it; for example, the hero of the campaign I tried to make was gonna be a Spectre, and its employers were the Kel-Morian Combine, who runs its own ghost program. |
| 19:13.53 | Triceron | SC2 campaign! |
| 19:14.08 | Triceron | achievement farming |
| 19:14.46 | Triceron | my comp sucks too much ram running sc2, can't have browsers or progs running while i play |
| 19:15.03 | AsaPhelps | i could help do some abilities kakera |
| 19:15.47 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 19:15.49 | AsaPhelps | i just beat campaign |
| 19:15.59 | AsaPhelps | ending was pretty meh |
| 19:16.11 | RedWraith | You'll find that only about 10% of the people here have a creative capacity above that of a newt. |
| 19:16.25 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 19:16.27 | AsaPhelps | i'm going to make a dota clone |
| 19:16.30 | RodOfNOD | as high as 10% eh? |
| 19:16.38 | RedWraith | Exactly, AsaPhelps, exactly. |
| 19:16.38 | RedWraith | ;) |
| 19:16.53 | Kakera | The only thing I've managed to make so far was the hero himself, a basic marine gun to start off (lack of supplies from the Kel-Morian camp, gotta start with marine gun) and an improved marine gun. After finding out that my C-141 AC did not do the gun shooting sound when it was shooting, I abandoned, since if I can't even fix a stupid sound, I can't make a hundred more weapons for sure. |
| 19:16.59 | RedWraith | My problem is that I'm nothing but creativity and problem solving. I can't do mundane things. >_> |
| 19:17.05 | RodOfNOD | well im gonna make a risk clone but since i made THE risk map on wc3 i guess its not a clone :P |
| 19:17.28 | RedWraith | Kakera, that's a dumb attitude. |
| 19:17.29 | RedWraith | DUMB |
| 19:17.33 | depthsofchaos | theres a risk map on eu its fun :o |
| 19:17.44 | RedWraith | Imagine if I had stopped when I realized I couldn't use the data editor to save my life. |
| 19:18.03 | RodOfNOD | yeah if its risk revulsion its my terrain basically :P |
| 19:18.16 | depthsofchaos | duno its an eu map |
| 19:18.17 | AsaPhelps | so if there was a bomb that required you to make a data editor ability to disarm, you'd die? |
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| 19:18.27 | depthsofchaos | map of europe |
| 19:18.35 | RodOfNOD | yes well whats it called? |
| 19:18.36 | Dashkal | Kakera: Don't cave when you fail with things like that, just set them aside and try again when you get a little more familiar. |
| 19:18.42 | Kakera | It took me 1 hour to make that gun and the rest of my day down the toilet fixing a stupid sound. Nobody would help me because I couldn't mind the damn attack sound in the actor list, and following their directives only further confused me because I couldn't even find where to start to follow their word of advice. |
| 19:18.43 | RedWraith | AsaPhelps, no. |
| 19:18.48 | RedWraith | I learned how to use it well enough. |
| 19:18.50 | depthsofchaos | hmm no clue :o |
| 19:18.52 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 19:18.59 | RodOfNOD | can u find out? |
| 19:19.09 | depthsofchaos | ye gona check |
| 19:19.28 | AsaPhelps | events are pretty confusing at first |
| 19:19.31 | RedWraith | Kakera,who helped you? |
| 19:19.37 | Kakera | I don't remember. |
| 19:19.42 | RedWraith | The only one who knows enough to help people with data editing is ProzaicMuze. |
| 19:20.07 | Kakera | All that data crap, it's all too complicated. |
| 19:20.27 | depthsofchaos | map is called risk unlimited |
| 19:20.27 | RedWraith | The data editor is designed to be 'good' for someone who's been working with it for hundreds of hours. |
| 19:20.35 | RodOfNOD | hmm |
| 19:20.40 | RedWraith | It's not designed to be easy to use. It's an in-house design too. |
| 19:20.44 | RedWraith | easy to learn* |
| 19:20.47 | Kakera | I was awesome with the SC1 map maker, but since WC3, I can't do shit on them. Too complicated; even the terrain is complicated, with the thousand doodads and map elevation/thingamajig settings. |
| 19:20.49 | RedWraith | tool* |
| 19:21.09 | RedWraith | Kakera, if you mean the cliffs, I feel your pain. |
| 19:21.13 | RedWraith | WHY CANT I CONNECT CLIFFS?! |
| 19:21.14 | RedWraith | :( |
| 19:21.24 | RedWraith | stupid Blizzard and their laziness |
| 19:21.34 | RedWraith | not making adequate cliff connections |
| 19:21.35 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 19:21.58 | RodOfNOD | i cant even find it by googling depthsofchaos :P |
| 19:21.58 | Kakera | In Starcraft, I remember, there was two kinds of elevations. Ground and +1. |
| 19:22.19 | Kakera | Sometimes +2 if you had enough space and wanted to make a second elevation. |
| 19:22.24 | depthsofchaos | ah i hosted it it says your name "risk devolution: rodofnod" |
| 19:22.34 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 19:22.38 | RodOfNOD | interesting |
| 19:22.38 | depthsofchaos | duno whats that :o |
| 19:22.39 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-language/ by admo |
| 19:22.47 | RodOfNOD | can u send me it somehow? |
| 19:22.53 | RedWraith | oh, btw guys |
| 19:22.59 | Dashkal | I'm terrified of the terrain editor. I don't think I can easily create in there. Gonna start with sketches first. |
| 19:23.03 | depthsofchaos | duno how to find custom maps in cache :o |
| 19:23.10 | RodOfNOD | ya me either |
| 19:23.15 | Dashkal | I liked the sc1 editor, you could play and prototype easily. |
| 19:23.19 | RedWraith | Wraith.852 |
| 19:23.21 | RedWraith | since I know |
| 19:23.25 | RedWraith | you all want to add me |
| 19:23.33 | RedWraith | US only, depthsofchaos |
| 19:23.34 | RedWraith | :( |
| 19:23.40 | Kakera | Anyway, my project is way too big. I think of the end product and I know it's gonna be awesome, but when I look at all I gotta do to get there, I just... it's gonna take me years... |
| 19:23.52 | RedWraith | Kakera, make something small first. |
| 19:24.02 | RedWraith | Make a map that tells the player HELLO WORLD when the game starts |
| 19:24.03 | RedWraith | ;) |
| 19:24.11 | depthsofchaos | :/ us has so much more maps :o |
| 19:24.31 | Dashkal | Kakera: Definitely the wrong attitude. Focusing on how long your dream project will take will burn you out. Just focus on small components. Proofs of concept. Test maps, etc. After awhile you'll find you're ready to take it on and it won't seem anywhere near as huge. |
| 19:24.36 | RodOfNOD | so is there no way to show people maps across domains? |
| 19:24.44 | RedWraith | :( |
| 19:24.53 | RedWraith | Well, you need someone to work with you on the other side |
| 19:25.21 | depthsofchaos | and guest passes are region limited:/ |
| 19:25.32 | AsaPhelps | aww adding a friend isn't an achievement anymore? |
| 19:25.38 | RedWraith | Sharing maps cross-server is like opening the dark portal: its requires two experienced warlocks and may or may not destroy the swamp of sorrows |
| 19:25.54 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 19:25.55 | RedWraith | AsaPhelps, probably not. |
| 19:25.57 | AsaPhelps | i thought lord kazzak opened the portal |
| 19:25.57 | RedWraith | No one added me |
| 19:26.00 | RedWraith | T_T |
| 19:26.03 | AsaPhelps | i added you |
| 19:26.04 | RedWraith | AsaPhelps, no. |
| 19:26.06 | AsaPhelps | mr raynor |
| 19:26.08 | Kakera | I know it's the wrong attitude, but even if I started now, when Cataclysm is gonna come out I'm just gonna switch games again until SC2 xpac is out. |
| 19:26.16 | RedWraith | Medivh did. |
| 19:26.17 | Kakera | I won't have the time for sure. |
| 19:26.21 | AsaPhelps | mine's asaphelps.371 |
| 19:26.23 | RedWraith | Also that wannabe orc |
| 19:26.24 | Dashkal | Kazzak opened it the second time |
| 19:26.29 | slightlyrandomEU | Medivh under the influence of Sargaras |
| 19:26.29 | Dashkal | (or was that the third) |
| 19:26.50 | RedWraith | Gul'dan and the shadow council |
| 19:26.52 | AsaPhelps | i liked protecting medivh and helping him assist in the slaughter or millions |
| 19:26.53 | Dashkal | Medivh opened it for the first time |
| 19:27.19 | slightlyrandomEU | Well, the Highborne open it the first time |
| 19:27.23 | slightlyrandomEU | opened* |
| 19:27.36 | RedWraith | slightlyrandomEU, no. |
| 19:27.39 | RedWraith | That was the summoning of |
| 19:27.48 | RedWraith | sargeras |
| 19:27.48 | slightlyrandomEU | Ah, wrong portal |
| 19:27.50 | slightlyrandomEU | Been too long |
| 19:27.51 | RedWraith | and they failed that |
| 19:28.07 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/ by admo |
| 19:28.42 | slightlyrandomEU | Anyway, SC2 editor question: I can set the armor icon and the name on a unit, but I can't remove the button short of making it invulnerable |
| 19:29.05 | AsaPhelps | I know critters don't have armor icons |
| 19:29.09 | slightlyrandomEU | Yeah |
| 19:29.12 | slightlyrandomEU | And it pisses me off |
| 19:29.23 | AsaPhelps | why do you hate animals so much |
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| 19:30.49 | slightlyrandomEU | I dont hate them, I dislike them for taunting me so |
| 19:31.30 | slightlyrandomEU | So, the real question is, why do they hate me so much |
| 19:33.06 | AsaPhelps | can you set a unit's time scale to 0? |
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| 19:33.29 | AsaPhelps | .01 seems so fast |
| 19:34.55 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/types/fixed/ by admo |
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| 19:35.59 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/ by admo |
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| 19:39.11 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/point-get-x/ by admo |
| 19:39.44 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/point-get-x/ by admo |
| 19:40.55 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/ by admo |
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| 19:41.34 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/point-get-y/ by admo |
| 19:41.40 | slightlyrandomEU | valkrail: Stop unplugging that thing! |
| 19:41.48 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/point-get-y/ by admo |
| 19:42.31 | AsaPhelps | hmmm |
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| 19:44.35 | Lisk | is there any way to align terrain textures to a grid? |
| 19:46.20 | Hati | press arrow keys :x |
| 19:46.37 | Hati | but something like in paint where you can hold shift and it will only allow 45° no |
| 19:48.01 | Lisk | hmm.. i was thinking more about the grid that appears when you press G |
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| 19:49.20 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/fixed/ by admo |
| 19:49.23 | Hati | nope |
| 19:49.36 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/fixed/ by admo |
| 19:51.36 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/real/ by admo |
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| 19:52.45 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/fixed/ by admo |
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| 19:57.59 | Fromethius | does anyone know how to create an experience point gain multiplier? |
| 19:58.29 | Vailreth | you maybe could do that with a buff? |
| 20:00.00 | Vailreth | gues not |
| 20:00.14 | Fromethius | yeah i don't see anything |
| 20:01.38 | slightlyrandomEU | Well |
| 20:01.54 | slightlyrandomEU | You can do something with an Modify Unit effect |
| 20:02.35 | Fisker | no |
| 20:02.54 | Vailreth | any one know what kill bonus or lost bonus do? |
| 20:03.41 | slightlyrandomEU | Curious; Unit - (Random Living unit from groupHostiles) Becomes idle <-- now pops up in the debug tool as a failed event if a unit not in groupHostiles becomes idle |
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| 20:04.43 | m4ng3 | anyone else has a problem with beta made maps? i can load the maps in the editor and game without problems... but when i edit anything, all the text gets f*cked up :S |
| 20:04.59 | Lisk | might be something to do with having a "Random unit" in an event? |
| 20:05.11 | slightlyrandomEU | Well, it used to interpret random as any |
| 20:05.22 | slightlyrandomEU | So "Any Unit in Unit Group" |
| 20:05.33 | slightlyrandomEU | and not trigger and check for units not in the group |
| 20:05.57 | Lisk | what do you mean it "used to" |
| 20:06.02 | slightlyrandomEU | Before retail |
| 20:06.11 | Lisk | m4ng3; have you tried saving & reopening? |
| 20:06.24 | Lisk | (after things get messed up) |
| 20:06.29 | slightlyrandomEU | m4ng3: You're gonna have to be a bit more specific than that if you want specific advice |
| 20:07.03 | slightlyrandomEU | "fucked up" is a poor description |
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| 20:08.18 | m4ng3 | if i create a leaderboard in a new map all the text is fine. but if i open a map that i made in the beta editor and then add a leaderboard all the terxt is like "JFIEJ32DIEK329JK" ... just all random...and all the triggers and shiits is correct... |
| 20:09.31 | slightlyrandomEU | So text as in trigger names and code ? |
| 20:09.39 | slightlyrandomEU | And all the old triggers are fine ? |
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| 20:10.36 | m4ng3 | all the triggers are correct and working if i just create a new map and add them there.... |
| 20:24.21 | Vailreth | damnit i cant test maps again |
| 20:24.41 | Vailreth | i may have to reinstall the game... shit i hate SC2 |
| 20:25.31 | slightlyrandomEU | Cant test maps how? |
| 20:25.38 | slightlyrandomEU | m4ng3: Is your stuff localized? |
| 20:26.00 | Vailreth | no matter what set of dependancies i use it loads up the same old obsolete set |
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| 20:28.05 | ubdead|eating | holy shit this tu |
| 20:28.13 | ubdead|eating | tutorial is getting huge lol |
| 20:28.16 | m4ng3 | what do you mean? |
| 20:28.40 | slightlyrandomEU | Text is stored in region specific folders in your map |
| 20:29.16 | Vailreth | any one have a GOOD fix for it doing this? |
| 20:29.26 | slightlyrandomEU | Only bad ones, sorry |
| 20:29.30 | m4ng3 | umm ok? |
| 20:29.58 | Vailreth | sorry i know you can restart the map abunch of times and it will eventually fix but this is not working any more |
| 20:30.39 | Hati | hmm |
| 20:31.36 | RodOfNOD | any idea on how to play the sound variation of something like a units what? |
| 20:31.54 | RedWraith | I just got the spectre portrait. |
| 20:31.59 | RedWraith | Is this badass? Y/N |
| 20:32.35 | RodOfNOD | Vailreth: did u put the campaign shit on top? |
| 20:32.47 | Hati | the collision is driving me crazy ... |
| 20:32.48 | Vailreth | no |
| 20:32.52 | RodOfNOD | do that |
| 20:32.53 | RodOfNOD | it works |
| 20:32.59 | RodOfNOD | whats ur problem hati? |
| 20:33.03 | Vailreth | i am not using the campaign dependancies |
| 20:33.14 | RodOfNOD | then what is ur issue |
| 20:33.14 | m4ng3 | Param/Value/83yhreh48h i just get this in the damn leaderboard :S |
| 20:33.14 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 20:33.29 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 20:33.34 | RodOfNOD | sounds like u have localized issues |
| 20:33.38 | slightlyrandomEU | m4ng3: You need to localize |
| 20:33.42 | m4ng3 | how? |
| 20:33.45 | Vailreth | the game is loading an obsolete modfile instead of the dependancies i have selected |
| 20:33.56 | slightlyrandomEU | search sc2mapster.com for a localizer |
| 20:34.01 | slightlyrandomEU | There is a tool that'll do it for you |
| 20:34.06 | RodOfNOD | well did u put the modfile u added at the top choice? |
| 20:34.13 | Vailreth | no |
| 20:34.16 | RodOfNOD | do that |
| 20:34.16 | m4ng3 | k, thanks |
| 20:34.26 | Vailreth | i dont want ANY Modfile |
| 20:34.37 | RodOfNOD | u have to have something there |
| 20:34.40 | slightlyrandomEU | No dependencies ? |
| 20:34.42 | Vailreth | i just want a plain map using the mutiplayer |
| 20:34.42 | Hati | RodOfNOD: ah i want my builder to be able to move about buildings |
| 20:34.50 | Hati | but not above cliffs |
| 20:34.52 | goomba_ | so you dont want any textures terrains |
| 20:34.52 | goomba_ | units |
| 20:34.53 | goomba_ | doodads |
| 20:34.58 | slightlyrandomEU | :D |
| 20:35.00 | slightlyrandomEU | Fuck all that |
| 20:35.07 | slightlyrandomEU | I'm making a text MUD |
| 20:35.12 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 20:35.21 | Vailreth | sorry i do not want any Extra stuff just the stuff from multiplayer |
| 20:35.29 | RodOfNOD | so did u add some dependencie and then remove it and save? |
| 20:35.34 | Vailreth | no |
| 20:35.41 | RodOfNOD | well then when did it stop working |
| 20:35.46 | Vailreth | beta |
| 20:36.06 | RodOfNOD | hmm can u start over and cut and paste all ur parts into a new map? |
| 20:36.13 | Vailreth | i have nothing |
| 20:36.20 | Vailreth | and all of the new maps do the same thing |
| 20:36.24 | RodOfNOD | ah |
| 20:36.29 | Hati | RodOfNOD: and it should work ... but it doesn't |
| 20:36.32 | RodOfNOD | what exactly do they do |
| 20:36.32 | Hati | and i have no clue why |
| 20:36.39 | RodOfNOD | what are u trying to do exactly hati |
| 20:36.42 | RodOfNOD | have no collision? |
| 20:36.48 | Hati | yea |
| 20:36.55 | RodOfNOD | radius = 0 |
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| 20:37.17 | Pierrot_ | hi |
| 20:37.19 | Vailreth | i have a mod called project unreal fortress and the game is loading this mod every time i test a melee map |
| 20:37.36 | RodOfNOD | interesting |
| 20:37.40 | Vailreth | even when its not set as a dependancy |
| 20:37.58 | Vailreth | so i am just going to reinstall and that will be that |
| 20:38.01 | RodOfNOD | k well close all maps |
| 20:38.05 | RodOfNOD | it might not |
| 20:38.11 | RodOfNOD | cuz if u had it in beta |
| 20:38.17 | RodOfNOD | its a registry or preernce file deal |
| 20:38.21 | RodOfNOD | preference |
| 20:38.24 | RodOfNOD | so close all maps |
| 20:38.27 | RodOfNOD | go to dependency |
| 20:38.32 | RodOfNOD | and hit clear shit |
| 20:38.53 | RodOfNOD | also where is it loading this mod from? |
| 20:38.56 | RodOfNOD | just remove the mod |
| 20:39.18 | Vailreth | if i move the mod the game wont start |
| 20:39.28 | RodOfNOD | gads |
| 20:39.32 | Vailreth | i get an error that the mod can not be found and the game crahses |
| 20:39.38 | m4ng3 | yupp it worked, thanks |
| 20:39.51 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 20:40.01 | Hati | RodOfNOD: hmm |
| 20:40.52 | Hati | not working |
| 20:41.06 | slightlyrandomEU | m4ng3: Next time, give your error message in a bit more detail. That Param stuff is an ancient and well known error |
| 20:41.17 | RodOfNOD | u set radius to 0 and it wont move through buildings? |
| 20:41.22 | Hati | yup |
| 20:41.36 | RodOfNOD | k there is another radius |
| 20:41.42 | Hati | all are 0 |
| 20:41.51 | RodOfNOD | k let me experiment |
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| 20:43.12 | slightlyrandomEU | Hati: Tried setting different movement thingies |
| 20:43.23 | Hati | yup |
| 20:43.35 | slightlyrandomEU | Movement - COllide |
| 20:44.13 | Hati | yeah.. |
| 20:44.17 | Hati | but its a mover thingie |
| 20:44.17 | slightlyrandomEU | That is funky |
| 20:44.20 | Zanam | Hello mapster's. could use some assistance, been learning this new editor through tutorials but I seem to have gotten stuck with these beams. Trying to do a non-unit oriented beam, generated through an effect called from a trigger. |
| 20:45.09 | Saeris1 | hmmm, i have a question. anyone know how i can make a sound alert? such as when a battlecruiser is attacked it says "Abandon Ship!" I don't know what type of alert to use to give an error, like, cannot build there or something like that |
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| 20:45.59 | slightlyrandomEU | Saeris1: If you're using triggers, that's fairly easy |
| 20:46.18 | Saeris1 | yes, i am |
| 20:46.35 | slightlyrandomEU | Well, then the event is Unit is Attack, stick a condition on there, and action Play Sound |
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| 20:47.02 | Saeris1 | i'm trying to create a kickback function for my golem combos, if a player enters a wrong combo, it moves their units back to the staging area and i want it to play a sound alert aswell |
| 20:47.16 | Saeris1 | i have the move function |
| 20:47.23 | Saeris1 | just need the sound and minimap alert |
| 20:47.44 | deathnight114 | How do i make a kill counter in starcraft 2? |
| 20:47.48 | Zanam | there's a ping in the trigger actions, and like slightlyrandom said, play sound |
| 20:47.54 | deathnight114 | starcraft 2 editor* |
| 20:48.15 | Vailreth | took about five minutes but i got the game to start reinstalling |
| 20:48.28 | slightlyrandomEU | deathnight114: Event - Unit Dies, Condition - Owned By Whoever, Action - Modify Variable "Counter" +1 |
| 20:48.58 | slightlyrandomEU | Saeris1: Go through the sound files and find something you want to use |
| 20:49.06 | slightlyrandomEU | Or find a file on the web and import it |
| 20:49.18 | slightlyrandomEU | Then play it for the relevant player with the trigger action I mentioned above |
| 20:50.14 | Zanam | slightly, worked with non-unit beams before? |
| 20:50.21 | slightlyrandomEU | Sorry, not a clue :) |
| 20:50.25 | Zanam | bah :P |
| 20:50.33 | deathnight114 | uhh |
| 20:50.41 | deathnight114 | I am not very smart with conditions yet |
| 20:50.44 | slightlyrandomEU | hehe |
| 20:50.47 | deathnight114 | How would i go about making the condition for that |
| 20:50.49 | deathnight114 | ? |
| 20:51.04 | slightlyrandomEU | Is there a counter per player ? |
| 20:51.08 | slightlyrandomEU | or per side |
| 20:51.08 | deathnight114 | Yes |
| 20:51.10 | Zanam | working on an arcade shooter, wsad movement, arrow keys for directional attack (think geometry wars)... got 6 weapons working great with behavior/effect for collision detection... but this beam is throwing me for a loop |
| 20:51.10 | slightlyrandomEU | or a general one |
| 20:51.27 | deathnight114 | It's a two player map, when player 1 kills 43 zerglings |
| 20:51.32 | deathnight114 | He will be granted five minerals |
| 20:51.35 | slightlyrandomEU | Ok, so two counters |
| 20:51.38 | deathnight114 | when player 2 kills ten lots |
| 20:51.44 | deathnight114 | He will be granted five minerals |
| 20:51.59 | deathnight114 | I think i know how to do the mineral granting, i just need to make them actually count it |
| 20:52.25 | slightlyrandomEU | Aight |
| 20:52.31 | slightlyrandomEU | Event - Unit Dies |
| 20:52.40 | slightlyrandomEU | forget about the condition |
| 20:52.46 | slightlyrandomEU | Oh, make a variable |
| 20:52.57 | slightlyrandomEU | Integer, and check the "array" box |
| 20:53.04 | slightlyrandomEU | set it to Size 2 |
| 20:53.22 | deathnight114 | akreadt dud tgat |
| 20:53.24 | deathnight114 | did that* |
| 20:53.28 | slightlyrandomEU | It's an array? |
| 20:53.34 | deathnight114 | yeah |
| 20:53.38 | slightlyrandomEU | Then do an if statement in the event |
| 20:53.51 | deathnight114 | huh? |
| 20:53.55 | slightlyrandomEU | If owner of killing unit == 1, modify killcount[1] +1 |
| 20:53.58 | ubdead|eating | updated, now with player attributes (picking your hero in the lobby): http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5486-lobby-game-modes-the-complete-guide-reference/ |
| 20:54.05 | slightlyrandomEU | else modify killcount[2] +1 |
| 20:54.07 | deathnight114 | No idea how to do that |
| 20:54.11 | slightlyrandomEU | It's an action |
| 20:54.22 | deathnight114 | kk |
| 20:54.27 | slightlyrandomEU | New Action, select If Then Else from the list |
| 20:55.07 | deathnight114 | it doesn't open in events |
| 20:55.38 | deathnight114 | i have the if then else statement created |
| 20:55.45 | deathnight114 | But i dont know how to create the statements |
| 20:56.46 | slightlyrandomEU | Ooook |
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| 20:56.52 | slightlyrandomEU | Then forget the if then else |
| 20:57.10 | slightlyrandomEU | Modify Variable "Kill Count" [Killing Player] |
| 20:58.22 | deathnight114 | okay. |
| 20:58.38 | deathnight114 | Then how will i have it grant me recources for every 43 kills |
| 20:58.59 | slightlyrandomEU | I'm afraid we'll need an if then else for that |
| 20:59.02 | RodOfNOD | Hati: thats a good one the collision one what are u doing with the non collision u nit? |
| 20:59.12 | deathnight114 | \facewall\ |
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| 20:59.26 | ubdead|eating | somebody needs to do a "how do i count kills" tutorial |
| 20:59.27 | deathnight114 | well explain to me how to do an if than else |
| 20:59.35 | slightlyrandomEU | You add the action |
| 20:59.45 | Hati | building |
| 20:59.57 | deathnight114 | i added the action last time... |
| 20:59.59 | deathnight114 | -_- |
| 21:00.09 | RodOfNOD | what do u mean building? |
| 21:00.10 | slightlyrandomEU | Right, so you have an if then else in your trigger? |
| 21:00.14 | RodOfNOD | are u trying to simulate a scv from sc1? |
| 21:00.16 | Hati | building buildings |
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| 21:00.23 | Hati | nahh |
| 21:00.58 | RodOfNOD | then please explain |
| 21:01.20 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.21 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.23 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.28 | deathnight114 | what do i want the if to seay |
| 21:01.30 | deathnight114 | say* |
| 21:01.48 | slightlyrandomEU | RIght click the if, add condition |
| 21:02.03 | deathnight114 | comparison? |
| 21:02.05 | slightlyrandomEU | new element |
| 21:02.06 | slightlyrandomEU | yeah |
| 21:02.08 | slightlyrandomEU | comparison |
| 21:02.35 | slightlyrandomEU | Then you click the left most bracket, change it into a variable |
| 21:02.39 | deathnight114 | new element |
| 21:02.45 | deathnight114 | that's the same as adding a condition |
| 21:02.48 | deathnight114 | so i'm adding 2? |
| 21:02.49 | slightlyrandomEU | Yup |
| 21:02.52 | slightlyrandomEU | Naw, just one |
| 21:02.59 | deathnight114 | LOL. |
| 21:03.01 | deathnight114 | ok |
| 21:03.18 | slightlyrandomEU | Trying to keep up with you, finding it hard without my mindreading device |
| 21:03.34 | slightlyrandomEU | Change the comparison from a function to a variable |
| 21:03.36 | uBdead | you assholes better read my tutorial that took me 6 hours |
| 21:03.47 | deathnight114 | what? |
| 21:03.56 | slightlyrandomEU | uBdead: I will, once I get these units to move properly |
| 21:04.01 | uBdead | aka never |
| 21:04.05 | slightlyrandomEU | Click the left most bracket deathnight114 |
| 21:04.31 | slightlyrandomEU | Or doubleclick Value 1: Owner of Unit |
| 21:04.34 | Kakera | Hm, when was the Activision-Blizzard merge done? |
| 21:04.47 | slightlyrandomEU | ~purl google activision-blizzard merger |
| 21:04.52 | deathnight114 | a LONG time ago |
| 21:04.54 | deathnight114 | like |
| 21:04.55 | deathnight114 | 3 years i think |
| 21:04.57 | slightlyrandomEU | ~google activision-blizzard merger |
| 21:04.57 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 21:04.58 | uBdead | perl left us |
| 21:05.01 | slightlyrandomEU | come on, you useless bot |
| 21:05.10 | uBdead | she timed out lol |
| 21:05.14 | slightlyrandomEU | Pfft |
| 21:05.15 | deathnight114 | win |
| 21:05.19 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 21:05.20 | uBdead | guess she finaly snapped lol |
| 21:05.23 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.30 | deathnight114 | That's what i have so far |
| 21:05.32 | slightlyrandomEU | Change the 0 to killing player |
| 21:05.42 | slightlyrandomEU | and set 1 to... 43 was it? |
| 21:05.53 | RodOfNOD | Hati: i dont know what to tell u :P |
| 21:05.55 | deathnight114 | yes |
| 21:05.57 | slightlyrandomEU | Oh wait, it was different per player |
| 21:06.06 | slightlyrandomEU | How many of these rewards are there ? |
| 21:06.07 | goomba_ | is onetwo here?? |
| 21:06.11 | goomba_ | ~seen onetwo |
| 21:06.13 | purl | onetwo <ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 10h 56m 8s ago, saying: 'that will save me lots of render time'. |
| 21:06.22 | slightlyrandomEU | Is it every 50 kills, or 50 then 150, then 300 ? |
| 21:06.23 | deathnight114 | yes it was different per player |
| 21:06.24 | uBdead | oh hi purl |
| 21:06.36 | deathnight114 | It grants you minerals |
| 21:06.41 | deathnight114 | I want it to be every time |
| 21:06.46 | slightlyrandomEU | every 50, then? |
| 21:06.51 | deathnight114 | every 43 |
| 21:06.54 | slightlyrandomEU | Fair enough |
| 21:07.00 | uBdead | what kind of number is 43 |
| 21:07.02 | deathnight114 | 43 zerglings match 10 zealots |
| 21:07.04 | slightlyrandomEU | :P |
| 21:07.05 | uBdead | i can understand 42 |
| 21:07.06 | deathnight114 | 42 falls |
| 21:07.14 | deathnight114 | 44 kills them |
| 21:07.23 | uBdead | lol |
| 21:07.35 | deathnight114 | That's what i found |
| 21:07.38 | uBdead | so basicly is 4,3 zerglins per zealot |
| 21:07.45 | slightlyrandomEU | Well, then its "If KillingPlayer[ZerglingPlayer] = 43 |
| 21:07.45 | deathnight114 | yeah |
| 21:08.03 | slightlyrandomEU | Then give the player minerals |
| 21:08.08 | goomba_ | one of the guys that sent me a pm about my campaign actually sent me ultralisk porn lol |
| 21:08.13 | slightlyrandomEU | Then set KillingPlayer[ZerglingPlayer] = 0 |
| 21:08.15 | deathnight114 | how do i add the {zerglingsplayer} |
| 21:08.19 | uBdead | rofl wat |
| 21:08.21 | slightlyrandomEU | Well, I figured you'd know |
| 21:08.27 | slightlyrandomEU | It's either 1 or 2 |
| 21:08.37 | uBdead | thats bad coding |
| 21:08.41 | uBdead | use a constant |
| 21:09.11 | slightlyrandomEU | Well, I don't know how your code is set up exactly deathnight114, so I am trying to be a bit general |
| 21:09.16 | slightlyrandomEU | Not going too well, admittedly |
| 21:09.21 | uBdead | xD |
| 21:10.02 | deathnight114 | hold on |
| 21:10.05 | deathnight114 | i'll send you the map |
| 21:10.06 | uBdead | http://www.google.com/trends?q=starcraft+porn&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all |
| 21:10.09 | slightlyrandomEU | :P |
| 21:10.15 | slightlyrandomEU | That's a bad idea |
| 21:10.18 | deathnight114 | why? |
| 21:10.27 | slightlyrandomEU | Because I don't want to be coding your map for you :D |
| 21:10.30 | uBdead | canadians are massively searching for "starcraft porn" |
| 21:10.30 | deathnight114 | http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?9xj7j5n2wn314i1 |
| 21:10.38 | deathnight114 | No i'm just showing you what i have |
| 21:10.40 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 21:10.46 | deathnight114 | I want to code this for myself |
| 21:11.21 | slightlyrandomEU | uBdead: Share this Ultrilist Porn. NOW! |
| 21:11.26 | slightlyrandomEU | Good :P |
| 21:11.38 | uBdead | i dont have it, goomba has |
| 21:12.26 | slightlyrandomEU | deathnight114: I see you have the important bit set up. The Soundtrack |
| 21:12.35 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 21:12.36 | slightlyrandomEU | :D |
| 21:12.45 | deathnight114 | That's not a finished version |
| 21:12.50 | deathnight114 | the current song in there is just a placeholder |
| 21:13.26 | slightlyrandomEU | Well, how do you intend to determine which player plays as zerg, and which as protoss ? |
| 21:13.56 | deathnight114 | protoss is player 1 |
| 21:13.59 | deathnight114 | zerg is player 2 |
| 21:14.01 | slightlyrandomEU | Aight |
| 21:14.16 | deathnight114 | sorry for being noob at coding |
| 21:14.19 | deathnight114 | >.< |
| 21:14.42 | slightlyrandomEU | In that case, you need to replace the KillingPlayer inside the KillingPlayer[ ] |
| 21:14.46 | slightlyrandomEU | with 2 |
| 21:15.05 | slightlyrandomEU | Since we're currently checking the killcounter for the zerg player |
| 21:15.11 | deathnight114 | you mean 1? |
| 21:15.13 | deathnight114 | No |
| 21:15.16 | slightlyrandomEU | Zerg was 1 ? |
| 21:15.18 | deathnight114 | I've been checking it for the toss |
| 21:15.19 | slightlyrandomEU | Ah |
| 21:15.20 | slightlyrandomEU | Sorry |
| 21:15.20 | deathnight114 | no |
| 21:15.22 | deathnight114 | zerg is 2 |
| 21:15.24 | slightlyrandomEU | My bad :) |
| 21:15.28 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 21:15.39 | slightlyrandomEU | I've gotten myself confused now |
| 21:15.46 | deathnight114 | zerglings would get over run if they had to kill 43 lots with ten lings |
| 21:15.48 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 21:15.51 | slightlyrandomEU | Well, why are you asking me if you know whats supposed to happen ? |
| 21:16.02 | deathnight114 | I know whats supposed to happen |
| 21:16.07 | deathnight114 | but i dont know how to go about creating it |
| 21:16.17 | slightlyrandomEU | You check the killcounter for the zerg player, determines if it is equal to 43 |
| 21:16.27 | deathnight114 | hm. |
| 21:16.36 | slightlyrandomEU | Wait, the killcounter for the protoss player |
| 21:16.41 | deathnight114 | how do i make the kill counter work though |
| 21:16.43 | slightlyrandomEU | Ugh |
| 21:16.45 | slightlyrandomEU | We just did |
| 21:16.48 | deathnight114 | the kill counter will be for both |
| 21:16.51 | deathnight114 | ohhh |
| 21:16.54 | slightlyrandomEU | Oh, you didnt code that |
| 21:16.56 | deathnight114 | but... |
| 21:16.59 | deathnight114 | yeah... |
| 21:17.16 | slightlyrandomEU | hehe |
| 21:17.20 | slightlyrandomEU | Aight, add a new action |
| 21:17.26 | slightlyrandomEU | Modify Variable |
| 21:17.35 | deathnight114 | in my playerakills trigger? |
| 21:17.39 | slightlyrandomEU | Yes |
| 21:17.43 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 21:17.50 | slightlyrandomEU | The Variable is Kill Count |
| 21:18.06 | slightlyrandomEU | and the array number is killing player |
| 21:18.32 | slightlyrandomEU | Killing Player is a function |
| 21:18.44 | deathnight114 | http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?9xj7j5n2wn314i1 |
| 21:18.46 | deathnight114 | owoops |
| 21:18.51 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.54 | deathnight114 | like htat? |
| 21:18.56 | deathnight114 | that* |
| 21:18.57 | slightlyrandomEU | Yup |
| 21:19.02 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 21:19.20 | deathnight114 | so i'm gonna have to add one to then to grant player A 5 minerals and reset that kill count |
| 21:19.22 | slightlyrandomEU | You need to put that above the if then |
| 21:19.31 | deathnight114 | it is above the if |
| 21:19.35 | slightlyrandomEU | Goodie |
| 21:19.41 | deathnight114 | i've gotten the above and below thing pretty much down by now |
| 21:19.43 | slightlyrandomEU | Now you need two actions in your if then |
| 21:20.03 | slightlyrandomEU | The two you just mentioned |
| 21:20.22 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.32 | deathnight114 | So i will need 2 in my then you mean? |
| 21:20.37 | slightlyrandomEU | Yup |
| 21:21.07 | slightlyrandomEU | And then you just make another one just like it, but with the zerg players values |
| 21:21.21 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.33 | deathnight114 | Adding the minerals. |
| 21:21.51 | deathnight114 | Now reseting the variable |
| 21:22.12 | slightlyrandomEU | Set Variable |
| 21:22.20 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.22 | deathnight114 | that? |
| 21:23.23 | slightlyrandomEU | [1] |
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| 21:24.01 | Darkfull | Help http://www.4security.com.br/2010/07/26/artigo-apache-com-mysql-e-monitoramento-com-bijk-no-debian-lenny/ |
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| 21:25.21 | Lisk | are conditions run *after* local variables are set? |
| 21:25.39 | slightlyrandomEU | Local Variables only exist for that specific trigger |
| 21:25.53 | slightlyrandomEU | So, it doesnt really matter |
| 21:26.02 | slightlyrandomEU | I'd say the variables are set after the conditions are met |
| 21:26.23 | slightlyrandomEU | Oh, you're trying to compare with a local variable in the condition ? |
| 21:26.24 | Lisk | well, say i want to use a local variable in the conditions, then it would matter |
| 21:26.27 | Lisk | yup |
| 21:26.28 | slightlyrandomEU | Hehe |
| 21:26.34 | slightlyrandomEU | You can try it |
| 21:26.58 | slightlyrandomEU | Local Variable Foo == true, condition Foo = true, action debug message Foo |
| 21:27.53 | slightlyrandomEU | I don't think it'll allow you to pick the local variable in your conditions, though |
| 21:29.00 | Darkfull | ??? http://www.4security.com.br/category/videos/hacking-videos/ |
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| 21:29.16 | Lisk | i didn't test it, but i think it should work |
| 21:29.24 | Lisk | i opened up the "View Script" |
| 21:29.41 | Lisk | and my local var is declared above the conditions check |
| 21:30.08 | slightlyrandomEU | Ah, nice |
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| 21:30.36 | Lisk | that's pretty cool. definitely couldn't do that in WC3 |
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| 21:31.19 | Ousnius | hey |
| 21:31.43 | Ousnius | can somebody explain me how to let a missile turrets turret face sth.? :( |
| 21:33.44 | RodOfNOD | reaper what: im bringing the pain and the pizza in 30 minutes or its free |
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| 21:34.41 | slightlyrandomEU | :D |
| 21:34.48 | slightlyrandomEU | There are some good ones in there afterall |
| 21:35.22 | Vailreth | i think i am going to have to edit my windows registry |
| 21:39.44 | Grum | sc2 is weird o.O - We have detected that your video driver may be incompatible with StarCraft II ... Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series |
| 21:40.58 | RedWraith | so get a new driver |
| 21:40.58 | RedWraith | duh |
| 21:40.59 | Lisk | Grum: I got that too, but it runs fine |
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| 21:43.28 | slightlyrandomEU | Bah, can't figure out how to hide this buggering icon thing |
| 21:43.46 | slightlyrandomEU | Go away Armor Button! Shoo! |
| 21:43.55 | Unrea1|NA | Back :O |
| 21:43.58 | Megalon | Grum: that just means sc2 is not able to overheat your card with those drivers ;/ |
| 21:44.05 | Unrea1|NA | Just got done owning in 2s |
| 21:44.24 | slightlyrandomEU | Awesomely awesome |
| 21:44.39 | Unrea1|NA | Obviously Obvious |
| 21:44.57 | slightlyrandomEU | This is starting to bug me a fair bit |
| 21:45.02 | Unrea1|NA | Hmm? |
| 21:45.10 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/s2ma-cache/. s2ma From Cache. theb0rg (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 21:45.11 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/s2ma-cache/. s2ma From Cache. theb0rg (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 21:45.15 | Unrea1|NA | Dont tell me youre still looking for the armor shit |
| 21:45.31 | Grum | yeah i know it works |
| 21:45.32 | slightlyrandomEU | Well, I took a bit of a glare at my movement stuff, fixed a few bugs |
| 21:45.34 | Grum | was just surprised :) |
| 21:45.37 | Grum | never complained in the beta :D |
| 21:45.40 | slightlyrandomEU | But yeah, I am still at the armor stage |
| 21:45.56 | Unrea1|NA | I know there was another dude trying to figure it out as well |
| 21:46.00 | slightlyrandomEU | mahashiro: |
| 21:46.03 | Unrea1|NA | ^ |
| 21:46.06 | Unrea1|NA | Did he find out how |
| 21:46.15 | slightlyrandomEU | If he did, he didn't tell me about it |
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| 21:46.22 | wacko | w00t w00t |
| 21:46.25 | Unrea1|NA | Find a gun and make him tell you |
| 21:46.34 | slightlyrandomEU | Actually, I saw that it was fixed in... was it Red Circle TD? |
| 21:46.46 | Unrea1|NA | Ill go check |
| 21:46.47 | slightlyrandomEU | But I couldn't spot what he had done |
| 21:46.55 | wacko | what are we talking about ? |
| 21:47.11 | slightlyrandomEU | Armor Icons |
| 21:47.18 | slightlyrandomEU | I want them to go away |
| 21:47.27 | Unrea1|NA | Im telling you bro |
| 21:47.31 | Unrea1|NA | Its something with the flags |
| 21:47.35 | Unrea1|NA | Cause invun takes it off |
| 21:47.57 | slightlyrandomEU | Well, I can't find the flag, and I've compared it to a number of units that don't have the icons shown |
| 21:48.07 | deathnight114 | How can i add perminent creep to half of my map? |
| 21:48.11 | Unrea1|NA | Testin red Circle |
| 21:48.13 | Unrea1|NA | hold up |
| 21:48.17 | rrowland | ugh last mission is so gay |
| 21:48.21 | rrowland | 99.3% |
| 21:48.22 | slightlyrandomEU | deathnight114: You need to add some creep tumor like things |
| 21:48.30 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 21:48.32 | slightlyrandomEU | The easy way is to add creep tumors for player 0 |
| 21:48.54 | deathnight114 | any way i can add just one creep tumor and extend it's creep really far |
| 21:48.59 | slightlyrandomEU | Yeah |
| 21:49.01 | slightlyrandomEU | You can |
| 21:49.03 | Unrea1|NA | Yeah on the building he just has atk |
| 21:49.06 | Unrea1|NA | Checkin |
| 21:49.28 | slightlyrandomEU | Then you'll have to go into the data editor and edit the creep tumors footprint |
| 21:50.48 | Grum | what the fuck o.O sc2 locked up so hard that i couldnt kill it ... pc refused to open the taskmanager, actually lost network connection |
| 21:51.00 | deathnight114 | yeah |
| 21:51.05 | deathnight114 | that happened to me earlier @ Grum |
| 21:51.05 | Unrea1|NA | BLIZZARDS ON TO YOU |
| 21:51.06 | Unrea1|NA | RUN |
| 21:51.17 | Grum | no seriously, what the fuck |
| 21:51.23 | Grum | i ran the beta without a hickup at all |
| 21:51.24 | Dashkal | I'm having trouble finding something. Where is the "Ability Class Disabled" section of a buff beheviour now? It doesn't seemt o be where this tutorial says it is. |
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| 21:53.37 | RodOfNOD | there is an icon called Mercenaryport does anyone have any ideas what the model is ? |
| 21:53.40 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:53.59 | deathnight114 | brb |
| 21:54.02 | Dashkal | Or is that handled by something else now? Perhaps an effect? |
| 21:54.03 | Grum | whenever i go into the options and to the 'voice options' it just forces me to reboot my pc o.O |
| 21:54.30 | RodOfNOD | well then i suggest u dont do that Grum :P |
| 21:55.32 | Grum | that is besides the bloody point :) |
| 21:55.32 | Fisker | slaps Grum around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:55.40 | Grum | it shouldnt happen ... piece of fail :( |
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| 21:56.01 | Dashkal | oh well, found another way to accomplish the same thing |
| 21:56.03 | slightlyrandomEU | submit a bugreport or two hundred |
| 21:56.12 | Grum | hummm why dont i have to select a number-suffix for my bnet id? |
| 21:56.16 | ShadowTiger | does anybody know if there is a good fireball model in the game? |
| 21:56.21 | slightlyrandomEU | It's auto assigned Grum |
| 21:56.25 | Triceron | the number suffix is automatic |
| 21:56.28 | slightlyrandomEU | Hover your portrait |
| 21:56.31 | Grum | where can you see it ? kk |
| 21:56.32 | Triceron | where do you find it tho? |
| 21:56.37 | Grum | 997 :( |
| 21:56.39 | Triceron | yeah, I wanted to know the same thing |
| 21:56.42 | Triceron | where do you see it? |
| 21:56.46 | Triceron | I've been looking for mine |
| 21:56.49 | Grum | hover over your portrait as said |
| 21:56.49 | slightlyrandomEU | 1:56:22 PM) slightlyrandomEU: Hover your portrait |
| 21:57.02 | Grum | Grum\nCharacter Code: 997 |
| 21:57.08 | slightlyrandomEU | :P |
| 21:57.10 | slightlyrandomEU | Could be worse |
| 21:57.10 | Grum | aka, Grum.997 |
| 21:57.27 | slightlyrandomEU | :( |
| 21:57.39 | Grum | lame poopieship |
| 21:57.39 | slightlyrandomEU | I just stabbed myself with a screwdriver trying to get this banana open |
| 21:57.44 | ShadowTiger | what happens if there are 1000 people with lets say... Nova as their identifier |
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| 21:57.55 | Grum | slightlyrandomEU: you know you should open a banana at the far end right? :) |
| 21:57.55 | RodOfNOD | allowing 1000 people to have the same name is just stupid |
| 21:58.02 | slightlyrandomEU | I guess it'll tell you to pick another name |
| 21:58.05 | Grum | just squeeze the end and then you can simply peel it open |
| 21:58.07 | ShadowTiger | will it just say... sorry... too many people for this character? |
| 21:58.15 | slightlyrandomEU | It didnt work, wasn't ripe enough |
| 21:58.38 | RodOfNOD | anyone know what the icon mercenaryport points to for a model? |
| 21:59.13 | ShadowTiger | you mean what is the corresponding model for that icon? |
| 21:59.20 | Grum | hmmm now voice works |
| 21:59.32 | Grum | when i've selected another output in my sound setup |
| 21:59.36 | ShadowTiger | maybe you just had to voice your concerns for it to work :P |
| 21:59.45 | RodOfNOD | yes ShadowTiger |
| 21:59.55 | Grum | ;D |
| 22:00.11 | ShadowTiger | use the search feature? |
| 22:00.17 | Grum | but now more important things! i have to get some pet-cookies to make my mini-thor not mini in wow ;) |
| 22:00.17 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 22:00.22 | RodOfNOD | there is nothing that has merc |
| 22:00.24 | RodOfNOD | or port |
| 22:00.28 | RodOfNOD | that appears to be the model |
| 22:00.38 | ShadowTiger | is that the place where you buy mercenaries? |
| 22:02.04 | RodOfNOD | ah shit |
| 22:02.10 | RodOfNOD | its the merc haven |
| 22:02.11 | RodOfNOD | ie the bar |
| 22:02.14 | RodOfNOD | which isnt what i wanted |
| 22:02.41 | ShadowTiger | okay... |
| 22:02.48 | RodOfNOD | i want a building that would represent a sea port |
| 22:02.53 | RodOfNOD | somewhere ud buy ships |
| 22:02.56 | RodOfNOD | water shiops |
| 22:03.19 | ShadowTiger | whats wrong with teh mercenary compound? |
| 22:03.22 | ShadowTiger | lol |
| 22:03.40 | goomba_ | merc compound was originally reaper tech structure |
| 22:03.42 | slightlyrandomEU | Add some piers to a hangar and you're golden :P |
| 22:04.11 | RodOfNOD | im using that for the land based building |
| 22:04.36 | RodOfNOD | the merc compound model caused ur editor to crash in beta |
| 22:04.40 | RodOfNOD | if u placed it in the map |
| 22:04.49 | slightlyrandomEU | Add some piers to some random building, then |
| 22:04.58 | RodOfNOD | like i can model :P |
| 22:05.06 | slightlyrandomEU | ^^ |
| 22:05.08 | RodOfNOD | im trying to avoid using new models when i can |
| 22:05.21 | RodOfNOD | i mean i would rather have real ships than grounded air units |
| 22:05.22 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 22:06.10 | ShadowTiger | Model NameSourceRaceParent Wall Docking BayLiberty.SC2ModNeutralDoodad |
| 22:06.20 | ShadowTiger | that should do it : D |
| 22:06.32 | ShadowTiger | "Wall Docking Bay" |
| 22:07.04 | RodOfNOD | k ill look |
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| 22:10.17 | Vailreth | hurray i fixed it for the momment |
| 22:10.22 | Kakera | So are there any hero-building map out there yet? |
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| 22:15.25 | RodOfNOD | ShadowTiger: do u know how to rotate a buildings actor? |
| 22:15.52 | slightlyrandomEU | Set Facing |
| 22:15.54 | slightlyrandomEU | :P |
| 22:16.06 | ShadowTiger | actor events |
| 22:16.21 | ShadowTiger | though i think in units there is a field for default facing |
| 22:16.24 | RodOfNOD | its in the data editor ty slightlyrandomEU |
| 22:16.30 | slightlyrandomEU | Yeah, actor events |
| 22:16.34 | slightlyrandomEU | as ShadowTiger says |
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| 22:16.42 | ShadowTiger | you can do it with triggers by sending an actor message |
| 22:17.00 | RodOfNOD | ya i just was looking for rotation not facing |
| 22:17.01 | ShadowTiger | so several ways to do it depending on what you want |
| 22:17.13 | ShadowTiger | facing == rotation |
| 22:17.28 | ShadowTiger | unless you want a unit to move one way while facing another : D |
| 22:17.44 | RodOfNOD | no just wanted to rotate ur dock |
| 22:18.08 | goomba_ | i read that as dick |
| 22:18.09 | goomba_ | i was like |
| 22:18.16 | goomba_ | why would you want to rotate your dick o.O |
| 22:18.25 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 22:18.27 | slightlyrandomEU | The real question is, why wouldnt you? |
| 22:18.52 | ShadowTiger | do you know how to use the events field of the actor editor rod? |
| 22:18.57 | RodOfNOD | i think im gonna use the biodome instead |
| 22:19.03 | RodOfNOD | a bit |
| 22:19.20 | ShadowTiger | yeah well you can make a new event on actor creation that rotates the unit |
| 22:19.33 | ShadowTiger | i dunno if that will show in the editor though |
| 22:19.33 | RodOfNOD | ya but i was trying to avoid that |
| 22:19.34 | RodOfNOD | :> |
| 22:19.43 | RodOfNOD | it should it works for other things |
| 22:19.46 | ShadowTiger | wait so is the actor attached to a unit? |
| 22:19.52 | RodOfNOD | any diff between actor creation or unit birth? |
| 22:20.07 | ShadowTiger | yeah sometimes there is no unit |
| 22:20.27 | ShadowTiger | otherwise i think you can use either one |
| 22:22.01 | m4ng3 | any1 wanna make a terrain for me? |
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| 22:23.42 | Demonette | OMG the old infestor is in the editor XD |
| 22:23.45 | Demonette | he is so ugly XD |
| 22:24.07 | Fisker | thank you for testing Starcraft 2 |
| 22:24.10 | Fisker | *ban* |
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| 22:26.49 | Jum-Jum | Demonette: Whats he called? |
| 22:27.07 | Demonette | Fatty XD |
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| 23:00.20 | deathnight114 | hm |
| 23:01.10 | deathnight114 | Is there any way so that when I build a certain unit from a gateway or warpgate, it will spawn five of that unit at a point? |
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| 23:01.18 | Ousnius | kill me |
| 23:01.20 | Ousnius | KILL ME! |
| 23:01.21 | Ousnius | NOW!! |
| 23:01.38 | Triceron | maybe later |
| 23:02.03 | Ousnius | kill me or help me to move my f*cking turret -.- |
| 23:02.20 | Mindful | what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 23:02.22 | deathnight114 | huh? |
| 23:02.24 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 23:02.34 | Mindful | was talking to ousnius |
| 23:02.38 | deathnight114 | your trying to move a unit but you can't? |
| 23:02.38 | Ousnius | I want to set the facing angle of my missileturret...turret |
| 23:02.47 | Mindful | EW |
| 23:03.00 | Ousnius | big problem all over the forums XD |
| 23:03.03 | Mindful | set it on the go, or change it permanently? |
| 23:03.16 | deathnight114 | place the turret |
| 23:03.18 | Ousnius | on the go when using A and D movement |
| 23:03.18 | deathnight114 | double click it |
| 23:03.20 | deathnight114 | go to general |
| 23:03.23 | Mindful | deathknight |
| 23:03.24 | deathnight114 | oh |
| 23:03.26 | deathnight114 | when there moving |
| 23:03.28 | Mindful | he means the turret |
| 23:03.29 | deathnight114 | it's deathnight btw |
| 23:03.31 | Mindful | not the uh |
| 23:03.32 | Mindful | unit |
| 23:03.42 | Mindful | sorry, used to play wow, habit never really died |
| 23:03.46 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 23:03.53 | deathnight114 | dea-tab |
| 23:03.54 | Mindful | anyway, he means the turret, as in the thing used to handle weapon angles |
| 23:03.56 | deathnight114 | should fill it in |
| 23:04.01 | deathnight114 | yeah |
| 23:04.05 | Ousnius | I tried EVERYTHING |
| 23:04.05 | deathnight114 | i got that now |
| 23:04.10 | Ousnius | actor messages... |
| 23:04.11 | deathnight114 | i'm a bit of a noobie so yeah... |
| 23:04.13 | deathnight114 | hm. |
| 23:04.15 | Ousnius | make actor face blabla... |
| 23:04.18 | Mindful | all good |
| 23:04.21 | Mindful | making actor face wouldn't work |
| 23:04.24 | Ousnius | everythign doesnt work |
| 23:04.26 | Mindful | but |
| 23:04.26 | Mindful | sec |
| 23:04.43 | deathnight114 | how can i make it so when i build a certain unit, it will spawn five of that unit every 20 seconds? |
| 23:05.14 | Ousnius | unit enters region |
| 23:05.15 | Ousnius | entire map |
| 23:05.18 | Mindful | do you just want to |
| 23:05.20 | Mindful | change it visually? |
| 23:05.22 | Ousnius | condition unit is type bla |
| 23:05.27 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 23:05.34 | deathnight114 | so when my unit spawns from a gateway |
| 23:05.41 | deathnight114 | I want it to die instantly |
| 23:05.47 | Ousnius | wtf |
| 23:05.47 | Mindful | ousnius, do you just want to change the way it's facing visually, or the way it is actually facing? |
| 23:05.48 | deathnight114 | then when my countdown for the next wave of units comes |
| 23:05.55 | deathnight114 | i want five of that unit to spawn |
| 23:05.57 | Ousnius | visually |
| 23:06.02 | Mindful | ok |
| 23:06.02 | Mindful | one moment |
| 23:06.04 | Ousnius | I'm doing the aiming via triggers |
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| 23:07.12 | deathnight114 | and how do i change the price? |
| 23:07.14 | Mindful | k |
| 23:07.14 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 23:07.15 | Mindful | ousnius |
| 23:07.20 | Ousnius | y |
| 23:07.21 | Mindful | you said you tried |
| 23:07.24 | Mindful | set facing |
| 23:07.26 | Mindful | did you try set rotation? |
| 23:07.27 | Ousnius | yep |
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| 23:07.34 | Ousnius | with actor name "MissileTurretTurret" |
| 23:07.37 | Ousnius | it's the turret actor ID |
| 23:07.39 | Mindful | so you tried both |
| 23:07.43 | Ousnius | y |
| 23:07.47 | Mindful | hrm |
| 23:07.47 | Mindful | k |
| 23:08.01 | Ousnius | like 5 threads on mapster about that |
| 23:08.02 | deathnight114 | hello? |
| 23:08.04 | deathnight114 | Can anyone help me? |
| 23:08.06 | Ousnius | but no solid solution |
| 23:08.10 | Mindful | deathknight |
| 23:08.11 | Mindful | go to the unit |
| 23:08.13 | Mindful | and change the cost field |
| 23:08.58 | Ousnius | thew funny thing about htis is |
| 23:09.04 | Ousnius | this* |
| 23:09.15 | deathnight114 | what? |
| 23:09.22 | deathnight114 | in the data editor? |
| 23:09.51 | Mindful | when you tried set rotation |
| 23:09.52 | deathnight114 | oh okay |
| 23:09.54 | deathnight114 | i got it |
| 23:09.58 | Mindful | nvm |
| 23:10.02 | Ousnius | make actor (actor of unit BLA) face BLA -> works |
| 23:10.13 | Ousnius | but make actor actor of actor) -> doesnt work |
| 23:10.26 | Mindful | oh |
| 23:10.32 | Mindful | are you sure its GETTING the message? |
| 23:10.46 | AsaPhelps | try breaking its legs |
| 23:10.48 | Mindful | like, have you tried just sending it destroy or something? you might need to set a reference for it |
| 23:10.57 | Ousnius | when I send the message to "MissileTurret" |
| 23:10.58 | Ousnius | it works |
| 23:11.03 | Ousnius | but to "missileTurretTurret" not |
| 23:11.07 | Ousnius | but thats the actor ID of the turret |
| 23:11.17 | Mindful | yeah, but actor ID just identifies types of data |
| 23:11.26 | Mindful | there could be 50 missileturretturrets |
| 23:11.31 | Ousnius | nope |
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| 23:11.38 | Mindful | there may not be for your map |
| 23:11.41 | Ousnius | MissileTurretTurret of UNTI vaRIABLE |
| 23:11.42 | Ousnius | :P |
| 23:11.47 | deathnight114 | the problem is i will have a probe that will be building |
| 23:11.47 | Mindful | oh |
| 23:11.48 | Mindful | hrm |
| 23:11.48 | Ousnius | unit* |
| 23:11.53 | deathnight114 | And i dont want him to get moved in |
| 23:11.59 | Mindful | get moved in where? |
| 23:12.13 | deathnight114 | Pretty much the probe will be able to make upgrades and stuff |
| 23:12.18 | deathnight114 | while i will have units fighting in the middle |
| 23:12.26 | Mindful | and does anyone know how to prevent a unit's death? unit takes fatal damage/set unit's health to 1+damage taken doesn't work =/ |
| 23:12.55 | Ousnius | you mean to let it stay at 1 life? |
| 23:13.51 | Mindful | yeah |
| 23:14.00 | Ousnius | hmm xD |
| 23:14.02 | Mindful | i mean |
| 23:14.07 | Mindful | preventing its death at all is all i need |
| 23:14.10 | Mindful | i can just set it to 1 life afterwards |
| 23:14.17 | Ousnius | you could make i invulnerable when it reaches 1 life |
| 23:14.32 | Mindful | i did that via behaviors |
| 23:14.34 | Mindful | still died |
| 23:14.36 | Ousnius | xD |
| 23:14.37 | Mindful | i could try it via triggers |
| 23:14.43 | Mindful | right now i'm using the unit takes fatal damage event |
| 23:15.03 | Ousnius | fatal damage? |
| 23:15.32 | Mindful | event, unit takes damage |
| 23:15.35 | Mindful | you can specify fatal |
| 23:15.52 | Mindful | its pretty awsome |
| 23:16.32 | Ousnius | maaan I'll just use another unit now XD |
| 23:16.41 | Ousnius | without turret |
| 23:16.56 | Ousnius | *sniff* |
| 23:16.56 | Mindful | no luck |
| 23:16.56 | Ousnius | xD |
| 23:17.05 | Mindful | making it invuln using triggers didn't save it D: |
| 23:17.16 | Mindful | and even if you are using missileturretturret of unit variable |
| 23:17.17 | Ousnius | use takes damage instead of fatal damage |
| 23:17.21 | Mindful | have you tested to make sure the actor's getting the message? |
| 23:17.26 | Ousnius | no wait |
| 23:17.29 | Ousnius | takes damage would be |
| 23:17.30 | Ousnius | too lat |
| 23:17.34 | Mindful | dies is too late |
| 23:17.38 | Mindful | i kind of assumed takes damage would be just in time |
| 23:17.43 | Mindful | like the way it worked in wc3 |
| 23:17.51 | deathnight114 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.00 | deathnight114 | Is there any way to make it exclude a probe? |
| 23:18.06 | Ousnius | nope I didnt test it |
| 23:18.10 | Mindful | yes, conditions |
| 23:18.12 | Mindful | ousnius, test it now |
| 23:18.17 | Ousnius | k |
| 23:18.18 | Mindful | if the actor isnt getting the message |
| 23:18.21 | Mindful | that could be your problem |
| 23:18.22 | m50 | Hello all, I am new here... So I was wondering if any of you could help me. I am importing a custom model into SC2 editor that has an animated turret, but when firing, i want it to turn the turret towards enemies. I got it ingame with animations, but can't figure out how to get it to rotate the turret towards its target. Can anyone help me? |
| 23:18.22 | Ousnius | MissilTurretTurret... |
| 23:18.25 | Ousnius | *thinkin* xD |
| 23:18.29 | Mindful | and deathknight you want |
| 23:18.32 | Mindful | just send it Destroy |
| 23:18.35 | Mindful | that's the really obvious one |
| 23:18.41 | deathnight114 | dea tab |
| 23:18.44 | deathnight114 | Just type dea tab |
| 23:18.44 | Mindful | actually idk what happens when you destroy a turret |
| 23:18.49 | deathnight114 | deathnight114: it will make that |
| 23:18.50 | Mindful | conditions |
| 23:18.53 | Mindful | unit type |
| 23:19.57 | deathnight114 | wait... |
| 23:20.01 | deathnight114 | uhh... |
| 23:20.03 | Ousnius | Mindful |
| 23:20.05 | Ousnius | destroy works |
| 23:20.10 | Mindful | that |
| 23:20.12 | Mindful | is unfortunate |
| 23:20.27 | Mindful | if it didn't work, the problem would be simpler :P |
| 23:20.42 | Mindful | i'm trying to figure out something real fast that might help you though |
| 23:20.43 | Mindful | one moment |
| 23:21.19 | Ousnius | bwahahaha a turning tower without a turning turret looks funny XD |
| 23:21.46 | Mindful | ousnius |
| 23:21.48 | Mindful | what if |
| 23:21.54 | Mindful | your turret didnt turn with your tower |
| 23:21.58 | Mindful | but it did turn with your triggers |
| 23:22.00 | Mindful | would that help you? |
| 23:22.14 | deathnight114 | god damnit |
| 23:22.18 | deathnight114 | it also kills the buildings |
| 23:22.20 | deathnight114 | :| |
| 23:22.42 | Mindful | oh, m50 |
| 23:22.47 | Mindful | that's really complicated D: |
| 23:22.56 | Mindful | i have no idea how to do that; all I know is that the model file needs some specific turret stuff |
| 23:23.22 | Mindful | ousnius, try something real fast |
| 23:23.32 | Ousnius | re |
| 23:23.42 | Mindful | go to your turret and set theu h |
| 23:23.53 | Mindful | pitch and yaw querys to null |
| 23:24.14 | Mindful | this will probably make the turret not turn with your tower, but it may make it turn with triggers |
| 23:24.33 | Mindful | my _guess_ is that the actor is getting the message, but just re-updating itself to the proper turret angle |
| 23:25.26 | m50 | hmmm, like what? I couldn't find anything in the exporter to help with it... :/ Do you have an idea of what I need to do? I tried googling it, but couldnt figure out how to phrase it without getting "Turret Wars" or real turrets... :/ |
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| 23:26.04 | Mindful | i have no idea man |
| 23:26.11 | m50 | mmk, no problem |
| 23:26.12 | onetwo | hi |
| 23:26.17 | Mindful | models and me |
| 23:26.22 | Mindful | don't go together :P |
| 23:26.29 | m50 | hehe |
| 23:26.39 | m50 | hello onetwo... |
| 23:26.44 | onetwo | hi |
| 23:27.19 | onetwo | man |
| 23:27.22 | Ousnius | *cry* *cry* |
| 23:27.26 | onetwo | so i found a codec i can directly batch render with for my tutorials |
| 23:27.27 | onetwo | over night |
| 23:27.32 | onetwo | but part 2 of this tutorial got borked |
| 23:27.32 | Ousnius | it doesnt turn :P |
| 23:27.36 | onetwo | super low quality for some reason |
| 23:27.39 | onetwo | so i have to re-render now |
| 23:27.41 | Mindful | does it not turn with the unit either? |
| 23:27.45 | onetwo | anyway, new tutorial will be up soon :D |
| 23:27.51 | onetwo | doing zombie-map type AI |
| 23:27.53 | Ousnius | the unit shouldn't turn |
| 23:27.54 | Ousnius | just hte turret |
| 23:27.57 | Ousnius | but nothing utrns |
| 23:27.59 | ShadowTiger | i still havent figured out how to make a video where you can read the text on youtube |
| 23:28.00 | Mindful | hrm |
| 23:28.00 | Ousnius | turns |
| 23:28.04 | Mindful | you tried both rotation and facing? |
| 23:28.11 | Ousnius | no jsut facing |
| 23:28.12 | Ousnius | ! |
| 23:28.23 | Mindful | don't get your hopes too high |
| 23:28.36 | Mindful | @onetwo how would you go about making a trigger that saves a dying unit and keeps it at 1 health? |
| 23:29.33 | onetwo | dont do it in triggers |
| 23:29.34 | onetwo | instead |
| 23:29.38 | onetwo | look at Jim Raynor (Sniper) |
| 23:29.42 | onetwo | he has a behavior that does what you want |
| 23:29.49 | onetwo | or Rory Swann |
| 23:29.50 | onetwo | any hero |
| 23:29.55 | Mindful | :O |
| 23:29.56 | Mindful | awsome |
| 23:29.57 | Mindful | brb |
| 23:30.16 | Ousnius | Mindful I have 6 values for rotation |
| 23:30.23 | Ousnius | I dotn get which stands for whut xD |
| 23:30.46 | Mindful | wow, that's um |
| 23:30.47 | Mindful | interesting |
| 23:30.47 | Mindful | sec |
| 23:31.27 | Mindful | well, i have no idea what any of those values might do |
| 23:31.32 | Mindful | i thought you said you'd try set rotation before though? |
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| 23:31.52 | wOlfLinG | So, i'm making a multi-player campaign map. Non-canon ofc |
| 23:32.00 | Ousnius | yes I tried it |
| 23:32.04 | Ousnius | with every value |
| 23:32.08 | Mindful | oh |
| 23:32.09 | Ousnius | but no solutions |
| 23:32.13 | Mindful | well, try some random values then |
| 23:32.15 | wOlfLinG | Gonna be the other version of the overminds vision, where kerrigan was saved |
| 23:32.17 | Mindful | with the turret not updating |
| 23:32.20 | Ousnius | I did :P |
| 23:32.23 | Mindful | oh D: |
| 23:32.39 | Mindful | well, removing the turret's automatic updating was my only idea |
| 23:32.40 | Mindful | sorry |
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| 23:33.29 | Mindful | onetwo |
| 23:33.31 | Mindful | you are amazing |
| 23:33.36 | onetwo | ? |
| 23:33.42 | onetwo | im not the father |
| 23:33.44 | Mindful | this was exactly what i needed |
| 23:33.48 | onetwo | oh |
| 23:33.49 | onetwo | :D |
| 23:34.28 | wOlfLinG | onetwo, i like your map tutorial vids ^^ |
| 23:34.49 | wOlfLinG | Whenever i need something, i always look at your channel first to see if you've posted one xD |
| 23:34.51 | onetwo | be careful if you have any triggers that dont have invulernable as exluded |
| 23:34.54 | onetwo | haha |
| 23:34.58 | onetwo | thanks |
| 23:35.08 | onetwo | one bug i found Mindful |
| 23:35.14 | onetwo | is that my zombie AI code |
| 23:35.19 | onetwo | would search for hero units |
| 23:35.27 | onetwo | but when your hero is 'dead' from that behavior |
| 23:35.29 | onetwo | hes not actually dead |
| 23:35.30 | onetwo | hes invulernable |
| 23:35.46 | onetwo | so i had to make the AI not search for invulnerable |
| 23:35.51 | Mindful | that's alright though |
| 23:35.51 | onetwo | (exclude it) |
| 23:35.54 | onetwo | kk |
| 23:35.55 | Mindful | since this is going to apply to structures |
| 23:35.59 | onetwo | ah |
| 23:36.37 | onetwo | guys |
| 23:36.39 | onetwo | some news to report |
| 23:36.42 | onetwo | just tried new skittles fizzles |
| 23:36.43 | onetwo | not that great |
| 23:36.47 | onetwo | sour skittles are better |
| 23:36.49 | onetwo | if you want texture |
| 23:37.01 | rrowland | lost vikings: gold wut |
| 23:37.06 | Mindful | :O |
| 23:37.08 | Mindful | i beat you to it |
| 23:37.17 | onetwo | oh yeah |
| 23:37.20 | Mindful | grats though |
| 23:37.22 | onetwo | ive completed 6 missions on casual |
| 23:37.25 | Mindful | rofl |
| 23:37.34 | rrowland | Once I figured out what to do |
| 23:37.36 | onetwo | i always play campaigns on casual because im just there for the story |
| 23:37.39 | rrowland | It was super easy |
| 23:37.40 | onetwo | although its extremely slow |
| 23:37.41 | Mindful | yeah |
| 23:37.44 | Mindful | its just getting it down |
| 23:37.47 | Mindful | you can basically go on forever |
| 23:37.53 | rrowland | I basically got to like 650k and then said fuck this and crashed |
| 23:37.57 | Mindful | although for some reason, i felt the need to die 3 times to my second terratron kill |
| 23:38.09 | Mindful | other than that it was a breeze |
| 23:38.12 | AsaPhelps | i cheated on viking |
| 23:38.14 | uBdead | hi |
| 23:38.17 | rrowland | Basically I just get the 2 spread fire missiles |
| 23:38.19 | rrowland | then 2 drones |
| 23:38.21 | Mindful | WHAT |
| 23:38.25 | uBdead | guys |
| 23:38.26 | Mindful | plasma missiles |
| 23:38.30 | uBdead | why are you spoiling so bad |
| 23:38.32 | rrowland | plasmas suck balls |
| 23:38.35 | AsaPhelps | Plasma missiles blow |
| 23:38.37 | Mindful | wtf you smoking |
| 23:38.40 | Mindful | get dual plasma |
| 23:38.45 | Mindful | bosses drop like logs |
| 23:38.45 | rrowland | Sucks |
| 23:38.45 | onetwo | spoiling what |
| 23:38.47 | Mindful | no |
| 23:38.51 | onetwo | teh epic viking campgin? |
| 23:38.52 | onetwo | campaign |
| 23:38.53 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:38.58 | Mindful | im going to plug my ears |
| 23:39.02 | Mindful | so i cant hear this heresy |
| 23:39.08 | onetwo | heresy? |
| 23:39.09 | onetwo | this |
| 23:39.10 | onetwo | is |
| 23:39.12 | m4ng3 | mm pie |
| 23:39.12 | onetwo | sc2mapster |
| 23:39.19 | Mindful | :O |
| 23:39.23 | uBdead | SC2MAPStAAHHHH? |
| 23:39.28 | Mindful | i think i butchered the spelling on that one |
| 23:39.30 | rrowland | I got the double aoe and double drones, then I'd wait for every powerup to cycle into a bomb |
| 23:39.43 | rrowland | Then use bombs pretty freely |
| 23:39.46 | Mindful | yeah, i go double drones double plasma missiles |
| 23:39.54 | onetwo | im guessing you can open vikings in the editor? |
| 23:39.57 | onetwo | as a campaign map? |
| 23:39.58 | Mindful | the normal sections are harder |
| 23:40.02 | Mindful | but the bosses are joke |
| 23:40.06 | onetwo | i think itll be good to see all the triggers |
| 23:40.07 | m50 | correct onetwo |
| 23:40.12 | rrowland | Terratron was pretty hard for me |
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| 23:40.31 | rrowland | I basically save up bombs and use like 5 on level 2 and 5 on level 3 for terratron |
| 23:40.41 | rrowland | But I get like 5 per level so it's a joke |
| 23:40.45 | m50 | onetwo, you know anything about making custom turreted models and bringing them into SC2? |
| 23:41.11 | rrowland | After the second runthrough level 2 is pretty hard |
| 23:41.14 | rrowland | With all the scourge |
| 23:41.19 | rrowland | If I get cornered I bomb |
| 23:41.20 | onetwo | not really; phaos or triceron might |
| 23:41.42 | rrowland | Getting hit sucks, it kills a drone and kill power goes way down |
| 23:41.44 | m50 | i die right at the beginning of level 2 :( |
| 23:41.49 | uBdead | wow this is kind of an achievement |
| 23:41.53 | uBdead | my tutorial |
| 23:41.56 | uBdead | got zero views |
| 23:41.58 | uBdead | lol |
| 23:42.22 | Sixen | lol.. |
| 23:42.36 | uBdead | time to go to bed now |
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| 23:42.40 | uBdead | cya all |
| 23:42.42 | rrowland | Is it a tutorial on how to make tutorials? |
| 23:42.44 | eggy | Sixen :-) |
| 23:42.46 | rrowland | If so I don't think I want to read it |
| 23:42.48 | uBdead | not really lol |
| 23:42.49 | Mindful | yeah, drone loss sucks |
| 23:43.03 | Mindful | though i actually have the most difficult with the terran levels |
| 23:43.23 | Mindful | probably becuase of our different weapon choices :P |
| 23:43.35 | rrowland | You probably don't have as much trouble with level 2 cause the aoe spread blows up every single scourge |
| 23:43.36 | rrowland | lol |
| 23:43.38 | Mindful | split shot ends up killing all the scourge at the same time, more green projectiles to dodge |
| 23:43.39 | Mindful | yeah |
| 23:43.40 | Mindful | exactly |
| 23:43.55 | Mindful | more trouble with terrans though since i can't down all of them |
| 23:44.08 | rrowland | I just sit at the bottom of the screen and pew pew |
| 23:44.08 | Mindful | but bosses die hilariously fast |
| 23:44.47 | rrowland | I was under the impression plasma cannons were just things I was supposed to dodge, considering how much they suck |
| 23:44.50 | rrowland | Compared to spread shot |
| 23:44.51 | rrowland | 8) |
| 23:45.41 | AsaPhelps | anyone know the name of the effect the viking uses when he gets an extra life, I think its the same mercs get when called |
| 23:45.43 | Mindful | try dual plasma on a boss |
| 23:45.45 | Mindful | then tell me they suck |
| 23:45.50 | AsaPhelps | they suck |
| 23:45.55 | Mindful | you guys are crazy |
| 23:46.07 | m50 | i actually do that every time i get to the first boss |
| 23:46.07 | rrowland | I'd rather spend like 1 minute more on a boss |
| 23:46.11 | rrowland | Knowing that they're easy |
| 23:46.12 | m50 | kicks ass against the boss |
| 23:46.17 | m50 | and against the pheonixes |
| 23:46.19 | rrowland | And I won't die anyway |
| 23:46.19 | m50 | but can |
| 23:46.24 | m50 | 't kill everythin else |
| 23:46.32 | rrowland | Whereas in an actual level it's much easier to die |
| 23:46.38 | goomba_ | LOL if you put 'girls' on your interests lists on facebook |
| 23:46.47 | goomba_ | it puts up a picture of these 2 little asian looking girls |
| 23:46.54 | Mindful | idk |
| 23:46.57 | goomba_ | so im on this guys profile like some 24 year old guy |
| 23:47.04 | Mindful | i cant even remember the last time i died on a protoss or zerg level |
| 23:47.05 | goomba_ | and his interests are 6 year old azn chicks |
| 23:47.17 | Mindful | the terran levels sometimes get me from sheer critical mass of ships and lasers |
| 23:47.52 | rrowland | bomb |
| 23:47.53 | rrowland | :P |
| 23:48.02 | rrowland | When I lost I had like |
| 23:48.06 | rrowland | 15 bombs |
| 23:48.15 | Mindful | yeah, i'm too conservative with bombs |
| 23:48.16 | rrowland | It went up every level despite me using t hem |
| 23:48.26 | Mindful | that and i use too many of them on the zerg boss, becuase for some reason, i suck at dodging tentacles |
| 23:48.27 | rrowland | Well think of it this way |
| 23:48.34 | rrowland | If you use a bomb you save yourself 1-2 drones |
| 23:48.37 | Mindful | yeah |
| 23:48.38 | goomba_ | what even are we talking about |
| 23:48.39 | rrowland | Which are 1-2 powerups |
| 23:48.45 | rrowland | Which could be 1-2 bombs |
| 23:48.51 | rrowland | Since they cycle |
| 23:48.59 | Dashkal | I'm having an issue with model actors with persistant effects. Following the Shockwave tutorial. Now I have a master effect that spawns a subeffect every 1s in a line with offsets at 1 unit further each time. The damage and buff effects work fine, but the model I associated with it via a model actor spawns on the caster or the target, never on the effect's location |
| 23:49.14 | rrowland | The tentacles are easy to dodge lol |
| 23:49.31 | rrowland | Whatever, stupid map |
| 23:49.48 | rrowland | I got to 99.5% on very last mission on hard with only using 1 charge |
| 23:49.49 | rrowland | That sucked |
| 23:50.00 | rrowland | For the achievement of course |
| 23:50.22 | Mindful | which achievement? |
| 23:50.23 | rrowland | That's the last in-mission achievement I haven't gotten |
| 23:50.36 | rrowland | The one for only using the thing once on the last mission on hard |
| 23:50.41 | goomba_ | i got to the end on hard |
| 23:50.44 | Mindful | ah |
| 23:50.54 | goomba_ | then i used the charge a second time to finsih her off faster |
| 23:51.00 | goomba_ | not realized there was an achievement |
| 23:51.11 | rrowland | Yeah I get to 99.5% and die |
| 23:51.14 | rrowland | It's so frustrating |
| 23:51.21 | goomba_ | just go mass goliath vikings |
| 23:51.22 | rrowland | I have a save at like 94% |
| 23:51.23 | AsaPhelps | did you make the correct model type dash |
| 23:51.28 | goomba_ | and start getting upgrades super mega early |
| 23:51.37 | goomba_ | well if you took out the canals |
| 23:51.53 | goomba_ | obviously you dont want vikings for ultras |
| 23:52.15 | rrowland | I need to do this achievement, do this mission on brutal, and do the last protoss mission on brutal |
| 23:52.21 | m50 | i played the campaign twice on normal, and the first time i took out the air, and omfg it was so much easier than when i took out the canals |
| 23:52.25 | rrowland | And I'll have 100% campaign achievements done |
| 23:52.44 | goomba_ | the last campaign mission on brutal shouldnt be too bad |
| 23:52.47 | AsaPhelps | i beat the last mission without using the spoiler but that was normal |
| 23:52.49 | goomba_ | just build like 8 gates |
| 23:53.09 | goomba_ | er |
| 23:53.10 | AsaPhelps | i built like 50 flame turrets |
| 23:53.12 | rrowland | the last protoss? |
| 23:53.13 | goomba_ | last protoss mission |
| 23:53.14 | goomba_ | yeah |
| 23:53.21 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 23:53.25 | AsaPhelps | oh the protoss one |
| 23:53.26 | goomba_ | when i did it on hard i got to 200/200 really really quickly |
| 23:53.30 | AsaPhelps | i was 10 kills short of the achievement |
| 23:53.31 | goomba_ | then anytime something died |
| 23:53.35 | goomba_ | it was instantly replaced |
| 23:53.44 | rrowland | I did it on normal and got both of the achievements |
| 23:53.49 | rrowland | Just need to do it on brutal |
| 23:53.53 | goomba_ | plus the earlier you get to 200/200 |
| 23:53.58 | goomba_ | the more overall units youll have |
| 23:54.04 | goomba_ | because the reinforcements dont use supply |
| 23:54.08 | Mindful | rowland, you've already done everything on brutal? o.0 |
| 23:54.21 | rrowland | everything except the last mission and the last protoss mission |
| 23:54.31 | Mindful | :O |
| 23:54.33 | rrowland | My initial playthrough was on brutal |
| 23:54.33 | AsaPhelps | are you korean? |
| 23:54.39 | Mindful | yeah, i'm doing the same thing |
| 23:54.42 | Mindful | first playthrough on brutal |
| 23:54.53 | Mindful | i just spend too much time on my map to get anywhere |
| 23:54.54 | Mindful | D: |
| 23:54.54 | AsaPhelps | i started brutal but it was taking so long that I just did normal to see the campaign |
| 23:55.08 | AsaPhelps | I like how they have so many units ending in lisk |
| 23:55.11 | AsaPhelps | brutalisk |
| 23:55.13 | AsaPhelps | uberlisk |
| 23:55.19 | goomba_ | hydralisk |
| 23:55.22 | goomba_ | mutalisk |
| 23:55.25 | AsaPhelps | I want to make a relentlisk |
| 23:55.35 | rrowland | omagealisk |
| 23:55.36 | rrowland | brutalisk |
| 23:55.39 | rrowland | zerglisk |
| 23:55.39 | AsaPhelps | omegalisk |
| 23:55.41 | rrowland | corruptlisk |
| 23:55.41 | m50 | i started with normal, because i wanted to see the campaign all the way through |
| 23:55.46 | rrowland | kerrilisk |
| 23:55.49 | AsaPhelps | kerriganlisk |
| 23:55.52 | m50 | pygolisk i think is the name of one |
| 23:55.58 | AsaPhelps | queen of blisk |
| 23:55.59 | rrowland | lol yeah |
| 23:56.00 | m50 | tiny little ultralisks xD |
| 23:56.09 | goomba_ | i never even saw those in the campaign |
| 23:56.11 | goomba_ | just in the editor |
| 23:56.15 | m50 | same |
| 23:56.28 | goomba_ | i was sad im like OOH ITS SO CUTE I WANT ONE ^___^ |
| 23:56.28 | m50 | i used to call lurkers lurkalisks xD |
| 23:56.46 | AsaPhelps | that reminds me |
| 23:57.26 | AsaPhelps | wow not a fan of the sc2 model for lurkers |
| 23:57.59 | goomba_ | i like the attack animation :P |
| 23:58.15 | goomba_ | but they look kind of chunky |
| 23:58.24 | AsaPhelps | are you into chunky women? |
| 23:58.33 | goomba_ | no, i was saying that negatively |
| 23:58.41 | goomba_ | im sure they didnt spend too much time on its model |
| 23:58.49 | goomba_ | it wasnt in campaign and was taken out of mp a loooooooong time ago |
| 23:59.11 | goomba_ | though it should be in mp >_> |
| 23:59.19 | AsaPhelps | well their lurker den was used in the last mission |
| 23:59.47 | AsaPhelps | their attacks are somewhat subtle compared to sc |
| 23:59.52 | AsaPhelps | it was like 30 feet tall in sc1 |
