IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20100727

05:28.49*** join/#sc2mapster purl (~purl@rikers.org)
05:28.49*** topic/#sc2mapster is #sc2mapster http://sc2mapster.com/ | Minigame Contest: http://bit.ly/cuuQSi | Patch 0 Undocumented Editor Notes: | Idle in #MWE for MilkyWayEditor!
05:28.49Corboblizzard's thing said 17
05:28.57Corboyep
05:28.57ShadowTiger_i was gonna make a retro map but if all the units aren't there then fail
05:29.02Corbogoing to use blizzard
05:29.03ekcolnovkolwhysomean q.q
05:29.06Corbothen get bitcomet
05:29.09Corboutorrent is crap
05:29.33TheLaughingManCorbo, you have to up the amount of connected peers
05:29.50Corbohow?
05:29.56RodOfNODi think these are cool new units..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJOY93jGicc
05:30.07CorboI never had to do anything with the other one but download crap
05:30.24TheLaughingManOptions -> Preferences -> Bandwidth ->Global Max # of Connections
05:30.36ekcolnovkollmao
05:30.45ekcolnovkoli can't believe he actaully added the wireframe
05:30.49ekcolnovkollmao
05:30.49RodOfNODhehe
05:30.52RodOfNODwhy not?
05:30.56Corboand set it to what?
05:31.00ekcolnovkolit's just wierd
05:31.01TheLaughingMan500
05:31.02RodOfNODhehe
05:31.04ekcolnovkolactually
05:31.04Skizotis the cd needed to play?
05:31.06RodOfNODi made the wireframe :>
05:31.10TheLaughingManSkizot, no
05:31.11ekcolnovkoli need to add wireframes for my antimarines too
05:31.18RodOfNODwas easy to do
05:31.23Corbomax per torrent too?
05:31.28TheLaughingMan500
05:31.37ekcolnovkoli hope they give us old models of units
05:31.44ekcolnovkoli would really like that old stalker model
05:31.52Corbostill not feeling it
05:32.14*** join/#sc2mapster mikelat1 (~mikelat@H10.C205.cci.switchworks.net)
05:32.51TheLaughingManSixen
05:34.44*** join/#sc2mapster xcorbo (~thecorbo@190.87.86.63)
05:35.30xcorboit even slowed down my conection enough to disconect me from irc
05:35.33xcorbothis sux
05:35.35*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
05:36.23devileskare you corbo
05:36.25ProzaicMuzewow this new patcher is retarded
05:36.44Skizotson of a BITCH
05:36.52Skizothow do i make it replay the intro video
05:36.52ShadowTigerwazzup?
05:36.52RodOfNOD?
05:36.59Skizoti missed it due to taking a shit :(
05:37.03RodOfNODlol
05:37.05ShadowTigergo into your install directory
05:37.08ShadowTigerlol
05:37.12ShadowTigerno you can view any cinematic
05:37.15ShadowTigerfrom the ship view
05:37.16ShadowTigerin game
05:37.18devilesku go into your time machine
05:37.19ShadowTigeri know that for sure
05:38.02devileskand set the date to 10 minutes earlier
05:38.02ShadowTigerits in the bridge
05:38.02TheLaughingManSixen
05:38.02ShadowTigerthere may be another way through the menus i dunno
05:38.07TheLaughingManThe intro isn't that interesting
05:38.14TheLaughingManIt's the marine getting suited up
05:38.23ShadowTigeryeah thats what i expected
05:38.49*** join/#sc2mapster Motive_ (~motive@c-68-39-176-236.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
05:40.05ProzaicMuzeonetwo, how did you patch the game?
05:40.24ProzaicMuzeAll downloaders are telling me there is nothing to patch while the game is requiring me to patch before I can use the editor OR even open the game to auto-patch
05:41.26*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
05:41.44MotiveI am so pumped
05:41.45Motive5-hour energy
05:41.47Motivehas me so
05:41.47xcorbotime still says 1 day
05:41.48Motivehuyper
05:41.48MotivexD
05:42.08ShadowTigerjust install it off the disc like me : D
05:42.23ProzaicMuzeWell gee, if only I had a disk
05:42.23xcorboat my top speed still says 18 hours
05:42.24xcorboD:
05:42.31ProzaicMuzeAnd this is just pathetic
05:42.38xcorbostupid 7GB game
05:42.49ShadowTigeri wasnt talking to you prozac
05:42.52ProzaicMuzethe patch just repeatedly opens the game/editor and pops up a "you must update/patch the game/editor"
05:42.53xcorboI remember when you could just save everything in a 1.44MB floppy
05:43.01ProzaicMuzelol, 7GB?  Mine was 12GB to install
05:43.11*** join/#sc2mapster etravex (4b8eef6c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.142.239.108)
05:43.13xcorboit's a 7GB download
05:43.22ShadowTigeryou can still keep your maps and profile info ona  floppy
05:43.28ShadowTigersmall maps that is : D
05:43.41xcorboand one map
05:43.53xcorbothat'd also be a cool way of distributing maps
05:43.58xcorborandomly shipping floppys
05:44.05Motiveminor problem
05:44.07ShadowTigeror drop them out of a helicopter
05:44.10Motivenone of my computers has a floppy drive
05:44.11Motivegg
05:44.12MotivexD
05:44.15etravexDoes anyone know what I must change to get a nuke to do its AOE damage even if the target dies?  I made a tower that shoots nukes automatically btw
05:44.19xcorboYEAH WELL
05:44.26ShadowTigersd cards are floppy 3.0
05:44.26xcorboTHEN MY MAP'S TOO GOOD FOR YOU
05:44.32MotivexD
05:44.56TheLaughingManxcorbo, I remeber you could save everything on an 8" 79.7kb floppy
05:44.58ShadowTigerwait if the target dies or the targeter dies?
05:45.01ProzaicMuzeblah
05:45.05ProzaicMuzeSC2 already sucks
05:45.07ProzaicMuzeIt can't patch :(
05:45.18ShadowTigertry rebooting?
05:45.19MotiveI can! :D
05:45.21ShadowTigeruninstalling reinstalling?
05:45.27TheLaughingManProzaicMuze, try the repair tool
05:45.35etravexwell the nuke takes awhile to get to taget sometimes other towers kill the target then the nuke drops but the AOE splash damage doesn't hurt units where the bomb lands
05:45.52ShadowTigersince when do nukes have targets anyways?
05:45.57ShadowTigerwhat ability is based off?
05:46.03ProzaicMuze@Shadow - I refuse to use logic to solve this problem.  Either it works NAOW or I boycott Blizzard.
05:46.07etravexi made a TD where a tower shoots nukes
05:46.12etravexso it targets
05:46.16ProzaicMuzebecause I know they'll fail as a company if my particular SC2 fails to install.
05:46.18ShadowTigerif you boycott blizzard can i have your cd key?
05:46.29ProzaicMuzelmao wtf?
05:46.54ProzaicMuze"Repair is unable to find the necessary data on our servers. Please reinstall the game to play Starcraft II."
05:46.58ProzaicMuzeWhat kinda lame repair tool is this!?
05:47.24Corbolol
05:47.25ShadowTigerits just a trick to make you feel better about reinstalling
05:47.37ProzaicMuze"There is no patch file to apply."
05:47.56ShadowTigeris there a validator on the nuke abliity?
05:47.57ProzaicMuze"There is nothing to download."
05:48.00ProzaicMuzelmao
05:48.06*** part/#sc2mapster TheLaughingMan (~TheLaughi@99-71-64-200.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net)
05:48.08ProzaicMuzeI'm being stonewalled by this bloody patching system Xp
05:48.34ShadowTigeryou might need to make the first effect that starts the nuke a persistent effect to make sure it lasts until the nuke falls
05:49.27LordAbysswell imma restard my computer to get my drivers going up to date
05:49.36LordAbyssprobalby not gonna pay attention to the irc at all until i get the game
05:49.37LordAbysshaha
05:49.38ShadowTigeroh good idea
05:49.54LordAbyssdon't wanna make myself any more depressed that i don't have it yet
05:50.24ProzaicMuzeDid you have any issues installing the patch?
05:50.32LordAbyssnope
05:50.39LordAbyssi also downloaded the game a week or 2 ago
05:51.00ProzaicMuzeI did the same.
05:51.04ProzaicMuzeI'm not talkin' about that part
05:51.11*** join/#sc2mapster Onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105)
05:51.12*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Onetwo] by ChanServ
05:51.16sixen-debugRawr.
05:51.17Onetwoah
05:51.19Onetwocomp crashed
05:51.26ProzaicMuzeAfter installing, there is no patch to download (says everythign that attempts to download), but the game/editor demands a patch
05:51.28Onetwoall my data
05:51.29Onetwoso i converted Predators to have campaign dependances
05:51.30Onetwogot unknown names
05:51.31Onetwolol
05:51.51LordAbyssprozaic
05:51.53LordAbysstry running teh game
05:51.56LordAbysssee what it says
05:51.58ProzaicMuzeBoth do that
05:52.01MotiveWoot
05:52.03MotiveI'm still Motive.866
05:52.07MotiveBeast, first Motive again.
05:52.12Onetwoill have to see tomorrow at 10am
05:52.14Onetwowhat i  get
05:52.14CorboYAY
05:52.17Corbo1%ยช
05:52.20Onetwoi might not get 212
05:52.20ProzaicMuzeThey infinitely loop through attempting to start the game/editor and then demanding a patch.  I say "okay, apply"
05:52.21LordAbyssonetwo.212
05:52.24Onetwobecause someone will get it before me
05:52.31ProzaicMuzeAt that point it closes everything and attempts to open again before prompting me to patch.
05:52.32LordAbysstry reinstalling
05:52.34LordAbyss?
05:52.37ProzaicMuzePsh
05:52.39Onetwooh nice
05:52.49LordAbyssrestarting comp now
05:53.05Onetwoso i added dependancies to my map
05:53.06*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (71174cc6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.113.23.76.198)
05:53.08Onetwobugged all my custom data
05:53.13Onetwobut comp crashed after i saved
05:53.15Onetwoand when i reloaded map
05:53.17Onetwoits all good now
05:53.19Onetwoand i got new depdnancies
05:53.21Onetwo2 in one deal
05:53.22Onetwohaha
05:53.32Onetwoooh
05:53.32Onetwofireworks
05:53.38ProzaicMuzewow, it took 5mins to install and 1sec to uninstall
05:53.40ProzaicMuzecrazy
05:54.09Onetwohaha shackled ultralisk
05:54.10Onetwoscary
05:54.26etravexwho here knows about morphing buidings that can help me out?
05:54.48Onetwoguys theres a bug in editor, if you place a terrain object and it modifies cliffs/terrain and then you ctrl+z
05:54.51allenmeloninstallation enabled?
05:54.52Onetwoit wont undo the cliff changes
05:54.55allenmelonan hour early?
05:55.15etravexcan anyone help me out on a quick question about morphing buildings?
05:55.27ShadowTigerwhat question?
05:55.27allenmelonand vjeux lives in eu?
05:55.35ShadowTigeryeah mon
05:56.03Corboshould I play paper mario, majora-s mask, mario 64 or guitar?
05:56.09ProzaicMuzelmao wtf?
05:56.15allenmelonnonw
05:56.20allenmelonplay sc2
05:56.20ProzaicMuzeNow the installer says a firewall is preventing me from installing the game
05:56.24ShadowTigerplay wave race
05:56.30ProzaicMuzeStupid. . . installer of crappiness. . .
05:56.42etravexi set the cost for morphing a building to 1200.  The tooltip says 1200 minerals yet when I click on it it only consumes 600 resources which is the original cost of the building
05:56.45Corbowave race?
05:57.07allenmelonplay sc2
05:57.10ShadowTigeris the cost part of the new building or the morph ability?
05:57.43ShadowTigeryou have a n64 but no wave race?
05:57.44etravexi oringally set it to the cost of the new building and that didn't work then i zeroed that out and put it in the ability morph cost and that didn't work either
05:57.45ShadowTigershame!
05:57.51CorboIs that really a good game?
05:57.52Corboand I don't have SC2 yet
05:57.52CorboI'm on mapster right now
05:57.52Corbocause I wanna see what that timer does
05:57.53Corbowhen it's over
05:58.11allenmelonwhat platform are you trying to play in?
05:58.13ShadowTigerits not blow your mind amazing but its a classic
05:58.16RodOfNODcost SHOULD be on the unit ShadowTiger
05:58.16allenmelonon*
05:58.26RodOfNODit was in beta 17-18
05:58.34RodOfNODpreviously it wasn in the ability
05:58.37RodOfNODwas
05:58.48ShadowTigerwell then i can't help muh
05:58.56ShadowTigeri havent touched the editor since phase 1
05:59.00allenmelonhow often does blizz do patches after the retail game is released?
05:59.12ShadowTigerevery few hours
05:59.15allenmelonwow
05:59.33ShadowTigerno seriously though, traditionally its pretty often after launch
05:59.35Corbo30 seconds yay
05:59.37ShadowTigermaybe once or twice a month
05:59.41Corbo20
05:59.48Corbo10
05:59.49ShadowTigerand then slows down to once every 3-6 months
05:59.53allenmelonahh i see
05:59.56ShadowTigerim no expert though
06:00.07Corbolol wtf
06:00.07allenmelonmkay, at least its an estimate
06:00.13Corbo"It's finally here"
06:00.17ProzaicMuzeIf they are smart hey'll patch it weekly
06:00.17CorboI expected more.
06:00.20ProzaicMuzeOtherwise they're stupid
06:00.34ShadowTigerits not a game that requires constant updates
06:00.40ProzaicMuzeRight now it is
06:00.47ProzaicMuzeB-Net needs an overhaul
06:00.48ShadowTigerfor balance patches you want to change multiple things at once, not one at a time
06:00.52AckisSC2 sucks!!11!!! :D
06:00.58RodOfNODhas anyone tried to write a bank > 817 chars :P ?
06:00.59ProzaicMuzeSo they better be patching it frequently until they have it where they promised it will be.
06:01.02Onetwoooh blood splats doodad
06:01.03Onetwonice
06:01.08ShadowTigerevery patch has to go through quality assurance
06:01.15ProzaicMuzeI'm not talkin' about balance patches
06:01.17Onetwowhatever happened to alpha vst
06:01.19ShadowTigerit takes a lot of effort to put out a patch
06:01.23ShadowTigerespecially for new code
06:01.31ProzaicMuzeI don't care about balance because I'll probably never play vanilla MP again after the SP campaign
06:01.32ShadowTigertrust me im a video game programmer
06:01.46ProzaicMuzeIVanilla MP is going to be pathetic after being able to use all the units
06:02.14ProzaicMuzeSaying you're such and such won't make me trust you
06:02.16ShadowTigerthats why someone is gonna make vanilla-chocolate swirl MP that has single player stuff added on
06:02.28ProzaicMuzeI wouldn't trust the Blizz CEO if he came in here and told me what was up.
06:02.34ShadowTigertrust me, I am hiding in your closet with a big knife
06:02.41ProzaicMuzeI don't have a closet
06:02.42ProzaicMuzeSo you're lying
06:02.47ShadowTigerthat you know of...
06:02.59RodOfNODTrust me ProzaicMuze u wont get it working till i do and i wont be dling till tomorrow evening mwhahahaha
06:02.59ProzaicMuzeYou must be in the wrong house then. . . how embarrasing
06:03.04Onetwolol queen chamber is huge
06:03.10ProzaicMuzepsh
06:03.13ProzaicMuzeOnetwo is my timezone
06:03.14ShadowTigeri know you thought the house was a good deal, but its actually built on top of a native american burial ground
06:03.18ProzaicMuzeso if he has it working I should be able to as well
06:03.24Onetwoyep
06:03.24ProzaicMuzerofl
06:03.27RodOfNODUS working?
06:03.30Onetwoyes
06:03.31Onetwoim in editor
06:03.31Onetwoin US
06:03.32ProzaicMuzeExcept it's not because it's right next to a school
06:03.33RodOfNODhmmm
06:03.34Onetwoi havent activated
06:03.40RodOfNODu havent activated?
06:03.44RodOfNODand u can insall?
06:03.46RodOfNODinstall?
06:04.09Onetwoyes
06:04.14Onetwothey opened install
06:04.23RodOfNODlol ok damn now i might have to do it
06:04.28Onetwoi love Haven trees
06:04.30RodOfNODdamn i have to work tomorrow damn!
06:04.32Onetwonice coniferous stuff
06:04.39RodOfNODnah i can have aptience
06:04.42RodOfNODi can do it!
06:04.45Onetwotyphon trees too
06:05.02RodOfNODany snow trees>?
06:05.22moshewecan anyone upload the native lib and post it on the forums somewhere?
06:05.33Onetwonope
06:06.02Corbok so
06:06.06Corbogoing to leave this download there
06:06.12Corbobai gais
06:06.14mosheweok, so how do i get it myself?
06:06.15Corbosee ya in
06:06.19Corbo17:53
06:06.35Onetwoonly few new trees
06:06.41Onetwoagria trees, haven, and typhon
06:06.44Onetwonice ones though
06:07.38Onetwocool
06:07.40Onetwoall kinds of trucks
06:07.41Onetwodoodads
06:08.48Onetwowoo
06:08.50Onetwosniper gun
06:08.52Onetwomarine
06:09.21Onetwosome really cool ships
06:09.34ShadowTigerhaunted house?
06:09.54Onetwoooh items
06:09.56Onetwobuilt in item models
06:09.56Onetwonow
06:10.06Onetwoanyone want an image?
06:11.11*** join/#sc2mapster Furyhunter (~Furyhunte@cpe-70-112-108-97.austin.res.rr.com)
06:11.25Onetwowhen making a new map, make sure to check custom dependancies
06:11.29Onetwoand select campaign stuff
06:12.24ProzaicMuzelol
06:12.25ProzaicMuzewtf
06:12.32ProzaicMuzeSame thign
06:12.34ProzaicMuzepointless
06:12.35*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
06:12.52Onetwoi deleted my beta (but backed up my beta maps folder)
06:12.55Onetwobefore installing
06:12.58ProzaicMuzeMy patcher refuses to see anything
06:13.03ProzaicMuzeI made a dupe install
06:13.07ProzaicMuzeon a completely different drive
06:13.35ProzaicMuzeYeah, I can't do anything
06:13.37ProzaicMuzeIt won't patch
06:13.50ProzaicMuzeI'll need to find a place to manully download this piece of crap
06:13.53Onetwomine auto patched
06:13.55Onetworight after install
06:13.57Onetworestart your comp
06:13.58Onetwomaybe
06:14.25ProzaicMuzei'll restart it later
06:14.33TehwildcardAlright beat SP in 2hrs 14mins
06:14.34Tehwildcardkinda sad
06:14.56Tehwildcardgonna go cry myself to sleep
06:15.01Onetwonew bug
06:15.09Onetwoif you make a new map with campaign dependancies
06:15.14Onetwowont show campaign units
06:15.15Onetwoin unit tab
06:15.18ShadowTiger<PROTECTED>
06:15.19Onetwohave to remove and readd
06:15.20Onetwothem
06:15.31ShadowTigerthat one mission takes at least 15 minutes
06:15.44Tehwildcardyeah just busting everyones balls
06:15.48Tehwildcardonly like 6 missions in
06:15.58ShadowTigerhah im farther than you and i dont even have the game
06:16.03TehwildcardNice
06:16.15ShadowTigerthe zaratuel mission is realy fun
06:16.34TehwildcardI spent like an hour playing lost vikings
06:16.36Tehwildcardjust sayin
06:16.42ShadowTigerlol
06:16.44ProzaicMuzeWait, Shadow, how are you playing the missions without the game?
06:16.47ProzaicMuzeAre you using the editor?
06:16.58ShadowTigerno i played them months ago at blizz press event
06:17.09ProzaicMuzeah
06:17.09ShadowTigeri think we had up to mission 8 or 9 available
06:17.57TehwildcardMake sure to turn your options to faster when you start it up x.x
06:19.53ShadowTigerwait the campaign is fast by default?
06:19.59ShadowTigerfail
06:20.00Tehwildcardyeah
06:20.18Onetwolooks like i can place stuff from blizz cinematics
06:20.23Onetwowhich confirms that they did use the sc2 engine
06:20.24ShadowTigerdid you do any challenges?
06:20.26Onetwofor the cines i saw
06:20.31TehwildcardNot yet
06:20.45ShadowTigerthere is one mission where you get sentries and templar
06:21.08ShadowTigerits rediculosly hard to get the highest score
06:21.40ShadowTigerthey are pretty fun though
06:21.44ShadowTigeri wish there were more
06:21.48Onetwolurker den
06:21.49Onetwol;ol
06:21.51ShadowTigerbut i dont think they will patch any new ones in
06:22.32*** join/#sc2mapster Cronos (~mattb@network173-210.wctc.net)
06:23.02deathnight114sup cronos
06:23.13deathnight114Hey anyone know what the cheat codes are for starcraft II?
06:23.28deathnight114I couldn't find any on google
06:23.55ShadowTigerdid you try the sc1 cheats?
06:24.37allenmelontype
06:24.42allenmelon"there is no cow level"
06:24.45Onetwoyou guys are gonna love me
06:24.47Onetwofor what i just found
06:24.51deathnight114....
06:24.56deathnight114starcraft 2 cheats
06:24.58allenmeloni already do Onetwo
06:24.58deathnight114not 1
06:25.06allenmelonlol jk
06:25.15allenmelondeathnight114: but did you try the sc1 cheats?
06:25.16OnetwoTHIS FIND IS GONNA BLOW YOUR MIND
06:25.21deathnight114dude
06:25.25deathnight114i dont have retail installed yet
06:25.31deathnight114It's not midnight here yet
06:25.35allenmelonits almost
06:25.36ShadowTigerthe only thing thats gonna blow my mind is that the 2 expansions are included in the game
06:25.38allenmelonjust 25 more mintes!
06:25.45ShadowTigerwhich obviously not gonna happen : D
06:25.55ShadowTigerinfested nova?
06:25.57ShadowTigerlol
06:26.02Onetwono
06:26.03allenmelonwhat if it is, it just needs an activation key to be unlocked
06:26.04deathnight114Yeah
06:26.06Onetwothis is something people thought wasnt in the game
06:26.09Onetwoand i found it
06:26.11deathnight114But i have no transportation
06:26.15deathnight114:(
06:26.18ShadowTigeryou found the reaver?
06:26.19deathnight114what is it?
06:26.20RodOfNODwell?
06:26.20hyarionOnetwo: may i guess, you found your pants? (since yo uwont tell what you found)
06:26.21RodOfNODdo tell
06:26.31RodOfNODcuz i have to go zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
06:26.34Onetwohad to zoom out to see it all
06:26.35ShadowTigertell me now im about to leave to wait in line
06:27.06TehwildcardNude picture of me?
06:27.09TehwildcardSweet
06:27.17RodOfNODzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
06:27.20TehwildcardBlizzard has bridges working
06:27.22allenmeloncmon Onetwo! spit it out!
06:27.23Tehwildcardover and under
06:27.26ShadowTigeromg
06:27.27Onetwouploading
06:27.30ShadowTigeramazing
06:27.31RodOfNODzug zug
06:27.35allenmelonoh uploading
06:27.36allenmelonk
06:27.38Onetwofucking comp is going so slow
06:27.50ShadowTigertoo late gtg
06:27.55Tehwildcardyup
06:27.57Tehwildcardim out
06:27.58Tehwildcardlaters
06:28.00Onetwowait
06:28.03Onetwocoolest thing
06:28.04Onetwoabout to show up
06:28.11Onetwohttp://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3359/tronr.jpg
06:28.13Onetwoenjoy
06:28.15Tehwildcard12 unless its boobs
06:28.15Onetwo:D
06:28.30Tehwildcardrofl you fight him in lost vikings
06:28.32deathnight114OMG
06:28.34deathnight114THATS EPIC
06:28.34Tehwildcardthe arcade game
06:28.41RodOfNODi already saw that on the youtube ::P
06:28.57Onetwobut it was unconfirmed
06:28.58Onetwofor the editor
06:29.04Onetwosomeone earlier said we didnt get it
06:29.07Onetwowell i proved them wrong
06:29.07RodOfNODshow me the sci vessel
06:29.08allenmelonso
06:29.11Onetwoits there
06:29.12RodOfNODand what does the SS mean?
06:29.12allenmelonwhats the big news?
06:29.13Onetwoi just went by it
06:29.15Onetwono idea
06:29.18RodOfNODi know
06:29.20RodOfNODtake a pic
06:29.33allenmelonOnetwo: i dont see the cool thing
06:29.36TehwildcardSS = Space shooter, my guess
06:29.39Onetwoterra tron?
06:29.43Onetwothe thing people said wasnt in the editor
06:29.46allenmelonoh
06:29.49allenmelonthat...
06:29.53Onetwoalso ill link a ton of items
06:29.56allenmeloni already saw it on pkol'
06:29.59allenmelons stream
06:30.10RodOfNODok well im off tozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
06:30.18RodOfNODnite nite lads have fun :P
06:30.27Onetwonight
06:30.31Onetwohttp://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1350/scienced.jpg
06:30.32Onetwoscience vessel
06:30.52RodOfNODthats horrible
06:30.59TehwildcardYeah all those units are in the shooter game
06:31.04TehwildcardIm out though
06:31.05Tehwildcardlater
06:31.05RodOfNODah
06:31.07RodOfNODnite
06:31.10allenmelonyeah, i thought the science vessel wasnt that great looking
06:32.00Onetwok incoming items
06:32.02Onetwotheyre awesome :D
06:32.30*** join/#sc2mapster monoframe (monoframe@ctv-213-164-103-252.vinita.lt)
06:33.17Onetwofeatures some new critters too
06:33.27monoframeDO THEY EXPLODE?!
06:33.35allenmelonyeah
06:33.38Onetwointeresting
06:33.40Onetwoand theres a monk-looking model
06:33.44allenmeloni actually clicked on them like crazy ingame
06:33.48monoframeProbably Kain
06:33.53monoframeor what
06:33.54allenmelonand they really did explode
06:34.00Onetwohttp://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8775/itemshl.png
06:34.15Onetwobig gun item model
06:34.16Onetwoill be using that
06:34.19Onetwo:D
06:35.06monoframeseems like that marine guy without his armor
06:35.13monoframeThe one from the cinematic
06:35.18monoframePlus he has his pants on
06:35.22Furyhuntertychus**
06:35.24monoframeAnd big hobbit feet
06:35.27monoframeFONDLAY!
06:35.28zeergi like the skeleton
06:35.29zeergin the back
06:35.44monoframethat one, hunter
06:35.57monoframefindlay*
06:36.13zeergand the helth cube
06:36.16zeergis cool
06:36.44monoframeSo we should guess the items are swirling in air?
06:37.28deathnight114Not a single person has the starcraft 2 manual?
06:37.31allenmelononetwo, are you on east coast?
06:37.53deathnight114ahh fuckit im going to sleep
06:37.58deathnight114night all
06:38.35Onetwowest coast
06:38.42Onetwoyes
06:38.43allenmelonhowd you get ur hands on editor?
06:38.44Onetwomonoframe
06:38.47Onetwoinstalled game
06:38.49Onetwoopened editor
06:38.51allenmelondigital?
06:38.54Onetwoyes
06:38.57allenmelonoh cool
06:39.03allenmelonmy bro's goin right now to get sc2
06:39.04allenmelonyay
06:40.09*** join/#sc2mapster Gohla (~user@53543F60.cable.casema.nl)
06:40.40scvroryi'm curious what happens i preordered on amazon
06:40.51etravexwhere do you set the refund amount for a structure?
06:41.21*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
06:41.35monoframeEasy way=using triggerEditor, the hard way=dataEditor
06:41.38monoframeGO FOR THE TRIGGERS
06:41.59etravexwhere in the data editor do you do it?
06:42.33*** join/#sc2mapster Motive (~motive@c-68-39-176-236.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
06:43.11OnetwoWoW
06:43.13OnetwoProzaicMuze
06:43.18Onetwoyoull love new actor
06:43.19Onetwoview
06:43.43ProzaicMuzeNot if I boycott Starcraft II
06:43.44Onetwooh wait nvm
06:43.50Onetwonvm ignore me
06:43.51Onetwohaha
06:45.45etravexdoes anyone know where i set the refund amount in teh data editor? when I morph a bujilding its refunding me
06:49.23Onetwostill cant have multiple levels of augment abilities
06:51.20GrumOnetwo: screenshot or fake :(
06:51.28Onetwoscreenshot of what?
06:51.34Grumthe new actor screen
06:51.41Onetwo[23:43] <+Onetwo> nvm ignore me
06:51.51*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
06:52.06Grum:(
06:52.08Grumbad lies
06:52.12Onetwolol
06:54.15allenmelontime to play spore in the meantime
06:58.41zeergspore is ok
06:58.52allenmelon1 minute countdown!
06:59.48allenmelon10 seconds!
07:00.12allenmelonIt is finally here!
07:00.29zeergyeah
07:00.42allenmelonnow back to spore
07:00.43zeergnow i just have to wait for mine to get here in the mail
07:01.47allenmelonactually ill just play puzzle dimension
07:06.29*** join/#sc2mapster Clord (~Clord@62-165-184-94.bb.dnainternet.fi)
07:07.22Clorddependencies are somewhat broken right now but no problem XD
07:07.50*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
07:09.33Fatal5101i got it!!!!!!!!!!
07:09.36Fatal5101i feel late
07:09.39Fatal5101mr west coast me
07:09.45Clordmy kerrigan hero does not get veterancy behaviors as long I need to use workaround to make campaign stuff load right
07:13.46Onetwonew stuff in triggers
07:13.48Onetwocalled chat bubble
07:13.53Onetwoprobably for quests
07:14.08Onetwowe can store text and strings to banks
07:14.10Onetwoso could save player names
07:14.13Onetwonot sure if we can do that before
07:15.19*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
07:18.25Clordit was already possible to save strings lol
07:19.21Clord41 minutes until I can pay from copy
07:19.23*** join/#sc2mapster Adamanthar (c2b94fc1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.185.79.193)
07:19.29ClordXD
07:19.35Onetwostrings and text?
07:19.37Clordtoying with retail editor :)
07:19.55ShadowTigerwoot i gots mine
07:20.00AdamantharGoood morning guys, how's the ladder going?
07:20.08ShadowTigerthere were over 100 people in line : |
07:20.25Clordnot sure if it was strings and text
07:20.31ClordI mostly saved integers
07:21.31*** join/#sc2mapster sixen-debug (~Sixen@246.sub-97-213-88.myvzw.com)
07:23.30Clordtechnically tauren space marine would become canon as it is in campaign ;) and as for easter egg it is too alive
07:23.31ClordXD
07:23.52Clordit is way different from typical easter eggs like some painting
07:24.06Clordthose easter eggs don't talk or have clue of their surroundings
07:25.55*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
07:26.43Onetwolol fricking weird
07:26.46Onetwoone of my custom units in my map
07:26.51Onetwohas an ability called lightning field
07:26.53Onetwowtf
07:26.56Onetwoi never added that
07:27.01Onetwoit even has the right button tooltip
07:27.03Liliannalol
07:27.04Onetwoto his name
07:27.05Onetwolol
07:28.56*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (71174cc6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.113.23.76.198)
07:29.20*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
07:36.31*** join/#sc2mapster progammer_ (71174cc6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.113.23.76.198)
07:37.46ShadowTigergo patch go
07:39.27*** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (516f48df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.72.223)
07:40.21wOlfLinGSo, right now i'm just waiting (im)patiently for the mail so i can play SC2
07:42.43Onetwocan anyone on EU who can publish
07:42.44Onetwoor even US
07:42.50Onetwoconfirm if player leaves game with Any
07:42.51Onetwoevent
07:42.56Onetwotriggers when people quit manually
07:42.58Onetwoor disconnect
07:43.21*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
07:43.55*** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (6d29bf88@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.41.191.136)
07:45.03*** join/#sc2mapster Jamash (~chatzilla@99-92-174-69.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net)
07:46.10*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
07:52.11*** join/#sc2mapster Banshee_ (4e611bc4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.97.27.196)
07:53.19*** join/#sc2mapster Xmas (~majd@cpe-76-93-13-216.socal.res.rr.com)
07:53.30*** join/#sc2mapster Lasion (~las@44.84-48-192.nextgentel.com)
07:53.36Xmashow do you download sc2
07:53.39Xmasmapster
07:54.00etravexwhy does the voidray beam not appear if your initial damage kills the unit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
07:54.01*** join/#sc2mapster davidcramer (~dcramer@c-67-169-69-95.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
07:54.02davidcramerffffff all you sc2 guys
07:54.06davidcramerget off my site so i can go to bed :)
07:54.36davidcramerim sure vjeux put you up to this
07:54.53*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
07:58.23Saerishmmmmm, 50% left on my install
07:58.38Saerisloving my dogtag usb key =)
07:59.24*** join/#sc2mapster Bifuu (~kvirc@cpe-071-077-145-012.nc.res.rr.com)
07:59.54*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Bifuu] by ChanServ
08:00.19Bifuunever seen irc so quiet
08:00.22Bifuui wonder why
08:01.48*** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net)
08:03.02Sixenlol
08:03.22*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
08:04.10monoframeSo the USB has the original StarCraft pre-written in it?
08:05.44ShadowTigeryeah
08:05.46Saerisyea, it's an installer though
08:05.47Saerisnot preinstalled
08:06.13Saerisif it was a portable version, i'd be really happy, but it's just as if you had it on cd or downloaded it from blizz
08:06.21ShadowTigeri like how they put that girl on tychus's suit
08:06.34ShadowTigerits a piece of art from the blizzard museum
08:06.44Onetwoim working hard on Predators
08:06.51Onetwoi need prozaic soon
08:06.56Onetwowe can have the map done very fast
08:06.57Onetwodepending on him
08:07.12Saeristhe usb stick itself is great though. it's pretty thick metal and the orange part lights up like the screens from the teaser trailer
08:09.49*** join/#sc2mapster Mindful` (~Something@c-67-169-116-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
08:09.59Mindful`need people to playtest my map :D
08:10.13*** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net)
08:11.20*** join/#sc2mapster art[] (~art@adsl-99-35-13-157.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net)
08:11.40Mindful`any midnight releasers free?
08:12.28*** join/#sc2mapster Computerpunk (~Computerp@95.76.177.207)
08:13.07*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
08:18.49allenmeloneveryone having fun with sc2?
08:19.05allenmelon:( cause i dont have it yet...
08:19.42ShadowTigeryeah lozta funz
08:26.02*** join/#sc2mapster Megalon (~Megalon@d86-32-171-168.cust.tele2.at)
08:26.31ClordVALIDATION_WORKING_SET_LOADING_SCREEN_FAIL
08:26.31ClordXD
08:26.39Clordmy card  game map is unpublishable lol
08:27.00*** join/#sc2mapster legyndir (~Legyndir@88.255.168.160)
08:27.48SixenWas there an opening cinematic..?
08:30.00*** part/#sc2mapster legyndir (~Legyndir@88.255.168.160)
08:30.02*** join/#sc2mapster legyndir (~Legyndir@88.255.168.160)
08:30.08Clordoh right.. score screen
08:30.10Clordnot loading screen
08:30.17ClordVALIDATION_WORKING_SET_SCORE_SCREEN_FAIL
08:30.26wOlfLinGStill no SC2 :(
08:30.30SixenClord, was there an opening cinematic?
08:30.40Clordmy map has no opening cinematic
08:30.46Clordit is just multiplayer card game :)
08:30.54SixenOn SC2.
08:31.02Clordyeah
08:31.07Clordopening cinematic was there first time
08:31.09*** join/#sc2mapster DarkPrince (~DarkPrinc@adsl-76-241-81-242.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net)
08:31.10Clordwhen launched
08:31.10Sixenwhy can't I watch it, -_-;
08:31.20SixenThere's no way to get back to it?
08:33.27Clordlol don't worry.. I skipped it too
08:33.28ClordXD
08:33.40*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
08:33.48Fatal5101EPIC FUN
08:34.52Fatal5101im getting every achievement along the way!
08:35.37*** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105)
08:35.37*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ
08:36.41SixenI want to watch the opening cinematic, wtf
08:36.52*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
08:37.17onetwoit was okay
08:37.18onetwomeh
08:37.19onetwohey
08:37.26onetwohow do i drop an item from a unit
08:37.28onetwoi see move item
08:37.36onetwoi guess ill have to remove the item
08:37.40onetwoand recreate it on the ground
08:38.21devileskcan you like remake your bnet account and stuff?
08:38.24devilesklike change your name
08:38.27devileskor make more than one
08:38.30devileskfor bnet 2.0?
08:43.17SaerisGolem Wars Classic is now live =) go check it out when you get a chance
08:43.38SixenNope, devilesk.
08:43.47SixenChoose your name once, that's is. Only one account per key.
08:45.11*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
08:46.08ShadowTigeryeah sixen you can view teh cinematics from the ship bridge after mission 3 is completed
08:48.42SixenGotcha. I just reset it in the variables file, hehe.
08:48.49SixenI don't have it yet, just the Digital Download, =|
08:51.01onetwosame for me
08:51.05onetwo8 more hours :D
08:51.12onetwowell i get to use the editor now so im fine
08:52.42devileskiw as gonna take
08:52.44devilesksc2mapster
08:52.46devileskor something like that
08:52.47devilesk;o
08:52.59devileskaren't account names not unique or something
08:54.45*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
08:57.16wOlfLinGBOOYA! SC2 is here :D
08:59.41*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
09:00.51Sixenright, devilesk
09:00.56Sixenso we can all be sc2mapster
09:00.57Sixenlol
09:01.39*** join/#sc2mapster Wihl[ (~W@79.136.98.17)
09:01.42RepoNew map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/emerald-dream-rpg/. Emerald dream rpg. Sharicasmi (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen.
09:02.28*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
09:09.14davidcramerphew
09:17.26BifuuSixen: Opening cinematic is the same video they used to announce SC2 just dif audio
09:17.27Bifuulol
09:18.57BifuuSo Blizzard is making an official Editor Wiki? O.o
09:20.15*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
09:28.06wOlfLinGSo i'll be casting the campaign on the hardest difficulty on quite a decent quality soon
09:28.13wOlfLinGIf anyone would like to see
09:28.31wOlfLinGThat is, however, that 1) Xfire detects SC2 and 2) My broadcast works
09:32.17*** join/#sc2mapster zrbecker (~zrbecker@ip98-164-222-246.oc.oc.cox.net)
09:32.39Clordhttp://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/4555-validation_working_score_set_screen_fail/#p2
09:32.54ClordI recreated map again from scratch and it happened then too XD
09:35.43devileskhttp://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/off-topic/5159-devilesks-signature-avatar-shop/
09:38.14*** join/#sc2mapster Furyhunter (~Furyhunte@cpe-70-112-108-97.austin.res.rr.com)
09:39.08FuryhunterAww cool, an official wik-
09:39.10Furyhunteraww.
09:39.58FuryhunterAlso, 5 map limit and 21 megabyte cap... :|
09:40.07monoframe21 megabyte for one map, right?
09:40.20Furyhunter21MB for ALL maps.
09:40.32monoframeGOODNESS GRACIOUS
09:40.46FuryhunterYeah, one more megabyte Blizzard. Thanks.
09:41.25monoframeAnd how about mods? Can we direct the map to use outer content, thus lowering the map size and still being able to use more custom materials?
09:42.23FuryhunterMaps published to battle.net require that their dependencies also be on battle.net I think :\
09:42.25monoframeSo all of the materials are stored "outside", while the map only "unites" them in one single rendered map
09:42.42monoframeSo the map in a way acts as a script
09:42.46monoframenot material holder
09:42.53Furyhunterso while you can avoid the 10MB individual map limit, you still have to revolve around the 20MB total limit.
09:43.40monoframeOf course, sharing these outer-material-clusters could be a very hard task...How to direct them? How to assign them to maps and so on
09:43.51monoframeNo dedicated system, instead of building your own
09:43.56*** join/#sc2mapster Triceron (60313557@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.49.53.87)
09:44.02Furyhunteryes there is
09:44.04TriceronAnyone here?
09:44.06Triceronsweet
09:44.08Furyhuntermods are published to Bnet as well
09:44.20monoframebut have the file limit, right?
09:44.22monoframesize*
09:44.22Furyhunteryes.
09:44.36Triceronokay I installed, I don't have an activation key yet (gotta wait 8 hrs) so I need some quick answer
09:44.47Triceronwhere are the campaign units in the game files :S
09:44.48FuryhunterAsk away.
09:44.52Triceronare they in a patch or something?
09:45.02FuryhunterLibertyCampaign.mod
09:45.04monoframeSo you see, you could have mod materials "outside", while the maps and other gameplay materials remain on b.net
09:45.05Triceronchecking the MPQ, I see the new music
09:45.22FuryhunterI would say _maybe_ on that monoframe
09:45.35Triceronhmm, I odn't have a libertycampaign.sc2mod
09:45.42ShadowTigerwow
09:45.55ShadowTigerthis is the second time ive completed a mission 1 second under the time limit for an achievment
09:45.56FuryhunterTriceron, hold on
09:45.58*** join/#sc2mapster Jum-Jum (Jum-Jum@h85-8-27-245.dynamic.se.alltele.net)
09:45.58Triceronmaybe it'll get unlocked or downloaded through a patch?
09:46.07monoframeIf developed outside of blizzard's ring, wouldn't taht be content altering, which in a way disobeys EULA?
09:46.16FuryhunterRight
09:46.20FuryhunterLibertyStory.SC2Mod
09:46.24Furyhunterin the Campaigns folder
09:46.26Triceronbah I don't have that either
09:46.30Furyhunterrather
09:46.32FuryhunterLiberty.SC2Mod
09:46.33TriceronOH
09:46.34Triceroncampaigns
09:46.37Triceronthanks
09:47.22Furyhuntermonoframe, all maps published to battle.net must satisfy a valid published file
09:47.30Furyhunterso no, you can't have "external" assets
09:47.38monoframe:'(
09:47.45monoframeBlizzards not being handy
09:47.49FuryhunterI feel for ya
09:47.54monoframeblizzard makin profits
09:47.57FuryhunterBlizz said they wanted a great mod platform, but they're working backwards
09:48.09FuryhunterI hope they offer an expanded disk limit in the future
09:48.25FuryhunterIt would be foolish for them not to.
09:48.29monoframeOf course, they have something shelved for modders with the expansions
09:48.38monoframeBut will probably come as an update
09:48.52monoframefor those who don't buy further expansions
09:48.59TriceronI think it's part of plans with their store
09:49.02Triceronpremium
09:49.03monoframe'cept for materials
09:49.06*** join/#sc2mapster fgenesis (~fg@p4FDC2F6B.dip.t-dialin.net)
09:49.23Furyhunterand honestly I don't mind that Triceron
09:49.42FuryhunterI'd gladly pay more if I could put more assets in to my map and make it more popular because of that.
09:49.48*** join/#sc2mapster Syncness (~shadowstr@unaffiliated/syncness)
09:49.52Triceronya
09:49.56Triceronbut the dumb thing
09:49.59Triceronis we have to wait
09:50.02SyncnessUh, not sure if this is allowed here.
09:50.03Furyhunteris that right now it's not an option, yes
09:50.06*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
09:50.08FuryhunterWhat's not allowed?
09:50.10Triceronand it's still not a surefire deal
09:50.13SyncnessBut, friend said there was a crack for SC2 already.
09:50.16SyncnessI found this hard to believe.
09:50.19FuryhunterWe don't condone it
09:50.21SyncnessAnyone got wind of this?
09:50.22FuryhunterBut I wouldn't be surprised.
09:50.23Triceronthere prolly is
09:50.33SyncnessI'm not asking for the crack, but rather, if it's true.
09:50.34FuryhunterThe nature of the offline play means they've probably already got it done
09:50.48Triceronthe game's out.  There would be a crack for it days before if there was gonna be a crack.
09:50.55Furyhunternah Triceron
09:50.58SyncnessI checked my private tracker sources, none of them has anything on it, only the private tracker he hat (bitgamer or something)
09:50.59FuryhunterNobody's been able to install it yet
09:51.02Furyhunteruntil today
09:51.12Tricerontrue
09:51.17FuryhunterI'll check bitgamer
09:51.41FuryhunterYep.
09:51.46FuryhunterIt's true, as far as I can see.
09:52.07Syncnessscreenshot please
09:52.11Syncnessand how's the comments looking?
09:52.17SyncnessCould you please get an md5 hash
09:52.41Furyhunteran md5 hash would allow you to get it with peer searching...
09:52.51Syncnessgood point
09:52.53Syncnessfilesize then
09:52.55Mindful`hmm
09:52.56Syncnessto the nearest byte
09:52.59Mindful`why do i not see any of the new units in the editor
09:53.00Mindful`D:
09:53.10Furyhunter11.50MB.
09:53.20SyncnessI'm assuming the guy just uploaded the standard client, and got a ratio boost from that
09:53.24Syncness11.5mb crack?
09:53.24Syncnesswtf?/
09:53.47FuryhunterIt replaces a battle.net mpq, looks like the old hack to watch replays
09:53.51Furyhunterback in Beta
09:54.03wOlfLinGWell, no xfire sc2 update, so i can't stream :(
09:54.26FuryhunterSeems silly that they'd do this rather than exploit the Play as Guest feature
09:54.38SyncnessFuryhunter, what's there to be exploited?
09:54.57FuryhunterFinding the flag that says "this install is registered" and flicking it.
09:55.01SyncnessFuryhunter, care to send me a bitgamer invite?
09:55.17SyncnessWelcome, Syncness - Ratio: 24.754 Uploaded:79.377 GB - IPT
09:55.17FuryhunterIf you're looking to report the crack, then sure.
09:55.24monoframesyncness, carry this over to PRIVATE CHAT
09:55.28Syncnessmonoframe, will do.
09:55.47monoframeYou would not want the mods go bananas
09:55.50FuryhunterYeah
09:55.52FuryhunterI don't like this
09:57.52FuryhunterAnyways,
09:57.54*** join/#sc2mapster SanderBuruma (4da4ba76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.164.186.118)
09:57.55Demonettemhhh... where i can set that a unit is controlled by the owner of a unit? can't the value find anymore after patch 16 =(
09:58.00FuryhunterI'm REALLY liking battle.net
09:58.10*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
09:58.10Demonettea sry not owner of a unit... owner of a behaviour
10:03.12*** join/#sc2mapster `MindWorX (~Nikolaj.M@93.166.203.126)
10:06.15*** join/#sc2mapster Barter (~Bart@189.4.113.145)
10:11.25wOlfLinGSo: Who here likes SC2? :D
10:11.33Mindful`meh
10:11.33Mindful`:D
10:11.36wOlfLinG^^
10:11.55wOlfLinGabout to do teh campaign on brutal
10:16.00Furyhunterpfft
10:16.08Furyhuntersc2 sux wut r u talkn bout wOlfLinG
10:16.20Furyhunterima go bak 2 my xbox n play mw2
10:16.35Furyhunteraint gay shit commandin shit
10:16.50Furyhunterits just shootin wit good grfx
10:17.10Furyhunterwho wants my acct, fuk blzrd
10:17.24TriceronTerran campaign only?  What a disappointment.
10:17.47TriceronSC1 had 3 campaigns, so much better, worth my $60
10:18.00Phaosdong the second to last mission of the campagin'
10:18.02FuryhunterStop trolling, SC1 was $50.
10:18.09devileski never bought sc
10:18.10Phaoshooooo boy is this taking it's time
10:18.11Furyhunter[/irony]
10:18.12devileskmy friend copied it for me
10:18.15PhaosI'm on nromal difficulty
10:18.16devileskand gave me his key
10:18.25PhaosI played since 12:30 midnight, until 9 in the morning.
10:18.30devilesknever bought diablo 2 or its expansion either
10:18.34devileskpirated it and got a key
10:18.35Phaosgot up at 2 pm and played till 10 pm
10:18.50Phaosso all up I have put in 16 and a half hours of play time
10:18.55FuryhunterI "bought" both digitally, but only because I was too young to have purchased the games myself back when they came out :(
10:19.04devileskim becoming wasteful
10:19.05FuryhunterI did play them back in 1998 and 2000 respectively
10:19.07devileskactually buying a blizz game
10:19.10devilesk>_>
10:19.37devileskmoney doesn't grow on trees
10:19.55TriceronI have em
10:19.57Triceronbut my SC1 key is banned
10:20.03Triceronnot of my accord
10:20.06Triceronfucking hackers
10:20.13Triceronor just random key gens
10:20.44*** join/#sc2mapster Gwypaas (~I@90-227-187-161-no129.tbcn.telia.com)
10:22.02*** join/#sc2mapster FireryRage (~FireryRag@129-97-120-67.uwaterloo.ca)
10:28.10*** join/#sc2mapster Helral (~BenZegvel@84-245-39-229.dsl.cambrium.nl)
10:28.22`MindWorXYay finally
10:28.27Helralmeow?
10:28.28`MindWorXSC2 activated on my account
10:28.31HelralXD
10:30.06*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
10:32.07`MindWorXI like how they're out of beta now, but the editor is till pretty betaish
10:32.13*** join/#sc2mapster Witchsong|AFK (~Witchsong@120.252.202.84.customer.cdi.no)
10:34.39*** join/#sc2mapster alp82 (~alp82@drms-4d01424e.pool.mediaWays.net)
10:34.46*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
10:35.40*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (71174cc6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.113.23.76.198)
10:35.52*** join/#sc2mapster depthsofchaos (~depthsofc@adsl184.adsl.hungarnet.hu)
10:36.44depthsofchaosso whos playing?:o
10:36.50depthsofchaosanyone finished yet?
10:37.13progammerthey're all playing
10:37.18progammerdeath silent for the last hour
10:37.27depthsofchaosi bet xD
10:37.36depthsofchaoswell im installing too now
10:37.49progammeri still have to wait for digital release :(
10:38.10progammerbut you can launch challange mission in the editor
10:38.15depthsofchaosyou dont get to have an ugly plastic dvd cover then
10:38.17depthsofchaos:p
10:41.13*** join/#sc2mapster Dedo (50b20a10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.178.10.16)
10:45.32*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
10:48.34*** join/#sc2mapster AxlYin (~axlyin@m465536d0.tmodns.net)
10:48.37*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
10:49.12AxlYinok wtf how do I access all the other units in map editor?
10:50.05*** join/#sc2mapster Goateee (4e488882@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.72.136.130)
10:51.50AxlYinOIC
10:51.57AxlYinhas to be based off of campaign
10:51.58AxlYinnot melee
10:54.21`MindWorXWell, seeing as the new units are from the campaign, that would be obvious ;)
11:02.35ProzaicMuzeFYI, SC2 is ghey
11:02.38ProzaicMuzeJust puttin' that out there
11:03.22depthsofchaoscampaign is gay idd
11:03.58ProzaicMuzeNope, the whole shebang is ghey
11:04.00ProzaicMuzeit won't even work for me :(
11:04.16depthsofchaosmuhaha
11:04.20depthsofchaosim sad to hear that
11:05.07depthsofchaosyou cant log in or wut?
11:06.46Skizotand here i was about to fire up the op station and start the ban lasers!
11:09.19*** part/#sc2mapster legyndir (~Legyndir@88.255.168.160)
11:09.43ProzaicMuzeI can't patch
11:10.09ProzaicMuzeit endlessly loops between "You must patch this blahdy blah piece of trash" and booting the editor/game
11:10.22ProzaicMuzeThen the two patcher's either say "No patch to apply" or "No patch to download"
11:10.47depthsofchaosdid you delete the beta properly?
11:10.58*** join/#sc2mapster ubdead (~kvirc@5ee53e4e.dsl.concepts.nl)
11:11.12depthsofchaosoddly it kept registry entries for me
11:11.19ubdeadellow
11:11.23depthsofchaosso it might be buging it :o
11:11.36ProzaicMuzeinstalled in two separate drives, but would that cause the issues from different drives?
11:11.50depthsofchaosdont think so
11:11.52ProzaicMuzeon*
11:12.11depthsofchaosthen it might be that you didnt instal it in the default directory, well im just guessing
11:12.15depthsofchaoslook at teamliquid
11:12.20depthsofchaosim sure someone had this problem
11:12.24ProzaicMuzeI never install in the default directory lol
11:12.33ubdeadsame lol
11:12.37ProzaicMuzeMy default drive is the OS and work related software
11:12.38ubdeadC:/games/ ftw
11:12.40depthsofchaosme either but this game is gay
11:12.43depthsofchaosand bugs
11:12.58ProzaicMuzethen my 2 spare drives have games/game tools and the other movie/movie tools
11:13.01ubdeadare you guys talking bout sc2?
11:13.05ProzaicMuzeyep
11:13.09ProzaicMuzeit's a douche and it hates me
11:13.12ProzaicMuzebecause it's a douche
11:13.20ubdeadwhats wrong
11:13.25ubdeadwont install?
11:15.20*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
11:15.23*** join/#sc2mapster hakowy (57cd2b7c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.205.43.124)
11:16.36ProzaicMuzewon't patch
11:17.17ubdeadwell thats a bitch
11:17.21ProzaicMuzeindeed
11:17.26ProzaicMuzeI installed it hours ago :(
11:17.28ubdeadwhat im wondering is
11:17.30monoframeSo does it connect to the patch servers, or not?
11:17.35ProzaicMuzenope
11:17.36ubdeadim still using the beta editor
11:17.46ubdeadwill the maps be able to open in the new editor
11:17.52ProzaicMuzeI believe so
11:17.59ubdeadthey better lol
11:18.09ProzaicMuzesome people have said you have to do some crazy hackery to make sure it ALL transfers, but that eventually you get all your stuff moved over.
11:18.21ubdeadoh god
11:18.22monoframeHmm..Had you experienced any connection problems during the beta?
11:18.49ubdeadprozaicMuze: you could try a manual patch
11:18.59ubdeadunpack the mpq's
11:19.03ubdeadcopy all in place
11:19.13ProzaicMuzejust checked the TL site, couldn't find anything that was similar to my problem :(
11:19.21ProzaicMuzeAnd I'd need to have a place to download the patch
11:19.29monoframefrom blizz support of course
11:19.31ProzaicMuzeI already have an MPQ editor, I just never found a patch mirror
11:19.46ubdeadit wont download?
11:19.48ubdeador wont install?
11:19.56ProzaicMuze@Mono - nope, I didn't have any issues during the beta connection-wise
11:19.58ProzaicMuzeWon't download
11:20.06ProzaicMuzeit both says I NEED  patch and that there is no patch to download.
11:20.19ubdeadoh let me see if i can find a link
11:20.39ProzaicMuzeI wound up with the only female version of the game in existence Xp
11:21.03ubdeadWOMANS
11:21.41ubdeadlol the battle.net CSS wont download
11:21.52ubdeadmakes the page look like its from 1995
11:22.13monoframeYou sure you have your router/firewall set correctly?
11:22.33monoframeAnd further more, from what location are you trying to connect? It's your private foundry, right?
11:23.58ubdeadi guess you should email blizzard for a link to the patch
11:25.23ubdeadalso check: http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/
11:25.27ubdeadonce in a while
11:25.33ubdeadthey might upload the patch there
11:25.50ProzaicMuzeI'm not sure how my router/firewall would be set incorrectly.
11:26.00monoframewell, ports not open
11:26.06ubdeadnah shouldn't be an issue
11:26.08ProzaicMuzeIf I'm able to download the patch and it doesn't pop up the default warning that it's blocking my program, it should be fine.
11:26.20ubdeadthey have a HTTP download
11:26.21ProzaicMuzeNot to mention it already has like 15 exceptions for Starcraft 2 listed.
11:26.24ubdeadport 80
11:26.25ubdeadso
11:26.36ubdeadthat would be very unlickely to be blocked
11:26.38monoframeupdate applications differs from the sc2.exe
11:26.43monoframeit's not the same one
11:26.54ProzaicMuzePlus I'm downloading from the US.
11:27.05*** join/#sc2mapster Griffith` (~Zeta@CPE002191074172-CM0013718d3546.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
11:27.09ProzaicMuzeIf previous batchers weren't blocked, why would this new one be blocked?
11:27.33ProzaicMuzepatchers*
11:28.20monoframeWho knows, it might as well be not router/friewall issue
11:28.34monoframeMaybe it can't download the list of seeders?
11:28.37ubdeadhttp://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=30785
11:28.42monoframebut that would be really off the wall
11:28.52ubdeadthey have a link for As a last resort, you can try downloading the patch manually from a mirror site *NEEDS UPDATE*.
11:29.01ubdeadbut it goes to WoW patches
11:29.04*** join/#sc2mapster slightlyrandom (~random@port451.ds1-ba.adsl.cybercity.dk)
11:29.07ubdeadshame on blizzard
11:29.29monoframe"Here have some WoW patches" "FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-"
11:29.37ProzaicMuze(Sidenote: my pop just flash freezed in my glas rofl)
11:29.40ubdeadlol indeed
11:29.53ubdeadhow does that work
11:30.47ProzaicMuzeif you get the container cold enough, upon pouring a class it begins to turn into a slushie
11:30.47*** join/#sc2mapster Ingela (~Ingela@90-230-169-130-no35.tbcn.telia.com)
11:30.48ProzaicMuzeBut it's more jelly-like than slushie
11:30.48monoframeProzaic, you don't have, lets say, GE open, right?
11:30.48ProzaicMuzeNope
11:30.48ProzaicMuzeall that is closed
11:30.50monoframeOther vile apllications?
11:30.54slightlyrandomTell me, why would I pay 60รขย‚ยฌ for a digital version of SC2 from the Blizzard store again?
11:30.59ProzaicMuzeFTP, CS4 and Hulu atm
11:31.00ubdeadlol how did you try that lol
11:31.11ProzaicMuzeBy attempting to drink it
11:31.13*** join/#sc2mapster ckknight (~ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight)
11:31.13*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
11:31.18ProzaicMuzeThenI realized it was jellyslush Xp
11:31.24monoframeWell, close those, S:
11:31.34ProzaicMuzeCan't close CS4 / FTP atm
11:31.37ProzaicMuzebut they wern't open before.
11:31.38ubdeadhttp://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/11815/?page=1
11:31.45ubdeadgogo post
11:32.16ubdeadfuck man i want to buy the game all the sudden
11:32.34ProzaicMuzePsh
11:32.35ProzaicMuzethat's EU
11:32.36ProzaicMuzeI'm US
11:32.46ubdeadoh right
11:32.55ubdeadthat explains it
11:34.16Saerisyawn
11:34.42Saeristhere are over a half million players online
11:34.43Saerisand my map is in the top 10
11:34.47Saerisyet i can't get anyone in my lobby
11:34.49Saerislame
11:35.02monoframeBecause most of those are there for the singleplayer
11:35.07monoframenot some skimmy custom maps pffff
11:35.36Saerishuzzah, map filled up finally
11:36.01Saerismost people still don't realize the empty slots are filled with computers
11:36.06Saerisoh well
11:36.31Skizotdigital doesn't get this AWESOME AS FUCK dogtag
11:36.34ubdeadwell i think it needs a month to 'settle in'
11:36.46ubdeadwhat dogtag
11:36.59*** part/#sc2mapster Syncness (~shadowstr@unaffiliated/syncness)
11:37.15*** join/#sc2mapster sjaak (~sjaak@cc1167589-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl)
11:37.24Saeriscollector's edition
11:37.25monoframethe one containing ORIGINAL STARCRAFT
11:37.31ubdeadi c
11:37.50SkizotAND broodwar.
11:38.18ubdeadbit too geeky for my taste
11:38.18Skizotfucker is made of some heavy metal.
11:38.18slightlyrandomhttp://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/91089139
11:38.18slightlyrandomThis is awesome
11:38.24ubdeadi cant fucking load the CSS in firefox
11:38.25slightlyrandomI think I'll wait a few weeks with buying this thing
11:38.57slightlyrandomSay wut?
11:39.20monoframeI won't buy until I get myself an additional ram bone S:
11:39.39monoframewith 1gb it wasn't a pleasant experience during the beta, won't be now
11:39.50ubdeadlol blizzards response: Please refrain from using foul / offensive language. This thread is now locked.
11:40.12monoframeLAN talking is dirty talkan
11:40.17ubdeadrofl
11:40.19ubdeadso true
11:40.25slightlyrandomThere are quite a few puzzled people on there
11:40.33*** join/#sc2mapster Barter (~Bart@189.4.113.145)
11:40.43slightlyrandomLike, "Why do I need an internet connection to play this game, even in single player?"
11:40.44ubdeadi dont blame them
11:40.47monoframeBlizzard Spokesperson: "HOW DARE YOU SQUEEL ABOUT LAN IMPLEMENTATION YOU LEETLE PIGGIES! OFF TO THE PEN!"
11:40.57ubdeadlol true
11:41.11monoframeubdead, they submitted themselves to the activision ringmasters
11:41.14ubdead"YOU DARE TO DEFY THE BLUE ONES?"
11:41.33monoframe;(
11:41.46ubdeadi just trew up a little when you said activision
11:42.41Helralhave you read this problem? http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/91609261
11:43.13ProzaicMuze<PROTECTED>
11:43.18ProzaicMuzeThat's the most offensive thign said in that thread
11:43.21ProzaicMuzeand it got locked rofl
11:43.30ProzaicMuzeBLIZZARD, IF YOU ARE READING WHAT I AM TYPING. . . .
11:43.40ProzaicMuzeI WILL RAPE AND MURDER EVERY ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES!
11:43.48ProzaicMuzewaits for people to suddenly D/C from the room in fear
11:44.04ProzaicMuzeAha!
11:44.06slightlyrandomheh
11:44.12ProzaicMuzeBlizzard spai dealt with.
11:44.44ubdeadlol
11:44.47*** join/#sc2mapster HaVoK- (HaVoK@105.70.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com)
11:44.52HaVoK-Heya
11:44.53slightlyrandomHm, now I just get xml errors when trying to load the forum
11:44.54monoframeThey might be closer than your think...
11:44.58monoframe*trollface*
11:45.02ubdeadsame here slightly
11:45.08ubdeadmy CSS doesnt load lol
11:45.14ubdeadso all the pages are fubar
11:45.22monoframegood thing IE works for the forums ehehehe
11:45.31ubdeadyea thats pretty weird
11:45.32SkizotL2Chrome nubs.
11:45.35slightlyrandomIt worked 1ร‚ยฝ minute ago
11:45.43slightlyrandomThis is quite clearly a server issue
11:45.49HaVoK-Is it possible to play from europe, but play in the US with Starcraft II? Would the battle.net account need to be US or is it the key that determines it?
11:45.59ubdeadnope
11:46.03slightlyrandomSome CD-keys were not locked
11:46.07slightlyrandomBut most are now H
11:46.09slightlyrandomHaVoK-:
11:46.16HaVoK-Hm
11:46.32slightlyrandomIn any event, the key would only be good for one region
11:46.38ProzaicMuzeYeah
11:46.39ProzaicMuzeit's stupid
11:46.40slightlyrandomSpent in one, can't be used in another
11:46.43ProzaicMuzeBlizzard wants more of your money
11:46.48HaVoK-Yeh, just have a friend in Europe that wants to play on US servers
11:46.50ProzaicMuzeThey're gigantic douchebags
11:46.58slightlyrandomNonono!
11:47.01HaVoK-but isn't sure how best to do it, if it's possible to do it digitally via battle.net
11:47.03slightlyrandomThey want to save you from the evil lag!
11:47.12ubdeadl
11:47.19slightlyrandomHaVoK-: Buying a digital version costs 60รขย‚ยฌ
11:47.22ubdeadlol like turks dont lag
11:47.23slightlyrandomThis can be done cheaper
11:47.31HaVoK-Huh O_o
11:47.37HaVoK-it's 59$ in retail too
11:47.46ubdeadlol i can buy it for 35 euro here
11:47.49ubdeadenter the key
11:47.51slightlyrandomWell, it was 48รขย‚ยฌ from play.com, box with freight
11:47.53ubdeadand download from blizz
11:47.58slightlyrandomand I saw it for 40รขย‚ยฌ from g2play.net
11:48.05HaVoK-yeh but, that'd be a European one wouldn't it?
11:48.33Helralyour battlenet account is region specific.
11:48.36ubdeadhttp://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/productpage.asp?productcode=RM03208&title=StarCraft_II:_Wings_Of_Liberty&P36=PPXNTU
11:48.37slightlyrandomI am european, I haven't checked the prices for the other regions; they don't concern me
11:48.40Helralnot the game that you buy.
11:48.49slightlyrandomAh, thanks Helral
11:48.53Helralthat is only localized for a certain region.
11:48.54ubdeadhttp://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/pc/starcraft-ii-2-wings-of-liberty/10082581.html?affil=BUYAT
11:49.05HaVoK-So, someone from europe who wanted to play in the US would need a US battle.net account Helral?
11:49.19HaVoK-But how's that achieved, they'd need to enter fake info wouldn't they when they register?
11:49.21Helralyup
11:49.31Helralyeah enter fake US info :P
11:49.33HaVoK-and put in seperate billing info?
11:49.39HaVoK-(are they even seperate)
11:49.40slightlyrandomYeah, exactly
11:49.42slightlyrandomThey are
11:49.45HaVoK-Ok
11:49.57slightlyrandom(You dont need billing to play SC2.. yet)
11:50.02Helralanyway that's how it worked in beta :P
11:50.06Helralassume they didn't change it.
11:50.43HaVoK-Okay ehe, Thanks
11:50.50Helralanyways I'm going off again, cya
11:50.50HaVoK-I'll let em' know
11:50.53HaVoK-Seeya Helral
11:51.53*** join/#sc2mapster warbio (53e3a0de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.227.160.222)
11:52.13warbioHow do you "zoom out" the camera for a player?
11:54.14slightlyrandomwarbio: Check the camera part of the trigger actions
11:54.15*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
11:54.32slightlyrandomMight even want to search for zoom or distance!
11:54.56*** join/#sc2mapster Barter (~Bart@189.4.113.145)
11:56.23ubdeadoh sweet
11:56.25ubdeadthis shop
11:56.28ubdeadsends you the key
11:56.32ubdeadas soon as you buy the game
11:56.37warbioI found it thanks for the help
11:56.43ubdeadguess ill start downloading it
11:58.33slightlyrandomWhich would that be ubdead? g2play?
11:58.49ubdeadnah a Dutch webshop
11:58.53ubdeadhttp://www.gamecardwinkel.nl/nl/products/details/id/47/StarCraft-2-Wings-of-Liberty
12:00.36slightlyrandomWell, this is why I was wondering why you'd pay รขย‚ยฌ60 for it on the battle.net store
12:00.51HaVoK-is g2play safe?
12:00.56slightlyrandomI've used it before
12:01.15HaVoK-I mean I've heard of people using it and other key stores say with CoD and getting their steam accounts banned
12:01.20slightlyrandomNo complaints from me, apart from the silly newsletter you have to unsubscribe from afterwards
12:01.49ubdeadlolwat HaVok
12:01.51slightlyrandomWouldn't know HaVoK-, I've only bought two games from em, Warhammer Online and Champions Online
12:01.53ubdeadthat seems like a bitch
12:01.56HaVoK-Yeh
12:02.09slightlyrandomWhat they do, I think, is tear open a box, scan the cd-key and mail that to you
12:02.10HaVoK-The batch that was sold was apparently stolen or from a bad supplier >_>
12:02.19HaVoK-Yeh they do
12:02.26HaVoK-but sometimes the suppliers they get it from steal them from stores :p
12:02.31slightlyrandomWouldn't know
12:02.36Skizoti'll take you champions acct if you don't want it XD
12:02.49slightlyrandomSure Skizot
12:02.52slightlyrandomNo game time on it
12:03.23Skizoti might be able to bug a dev friend to hook it up.
12:03.27slightlyrandomheh
12:03.42slightlyrandomBut you wont pony up รขย‚ยฌ20 for the game?
12:04.22Skizoti have no idea what caret a comma right wink 20 = in american monies.
12:04.53slightlyrandomEuroes
12:05.03Skizotรขย‚ยฌ20
12:05.07Skizotthat's what i see.
12:05.11slightlyrandomSo, ~$27-30
12:05.15Skizotso you see a euros icon thingy?
12:05.18slightlyrandomyup
12:05.24Skizotweird
12:05.32Skizotรข ย‚ ยฌ 20
12:05.34Skizotnow?
12:05.53ubdeadi dont
12:05.53ubdeadi see รก
12:06.35Phaoswell I have finished the campaign
12:06.39A1winyou can change your character encoding somewhere in your irc client settings
12:06.39ubdeadrofl
12:06.45ubdeadthats fast
12:07.04Phaosfast?
12:07.09Phaos20 hours :P
12:07.32ubdeadright lol
12:08.11ubdeadso what do you guys think
12:08.19ubdeadgive sc2 a month to settle?
12:08.23ubdeadbugfixes and stuff
12:08.27ubdeador buy now
12:08.41slightlyrandomI want to see if they reverse their policy on a number of issues before I give them any business
12:11.14*** join/#sc2mapster Unrea1 (47c56d5d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.197.109.93)
12:11.19Unrea1HOLY SHIT
12:11.23Unrea1Someone hold me
12:11.32ubdeadholds unreal
12:11.33Unrea1This shit is to real
12:11.40Unrea1My eyes
12:11.59ubdeadwell
12:13.08warbioHow do you turn around an doodad?
12:13.19slightlyrandomDouble click it, set facing
12:13.59*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
12:15.23ubdeadi think unreal passed out
12:16.27*** join/#sc2mapster vjeux (52e9ed5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.233.237.91)
12:16.28*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o vjeux] by ChanServ
12:16.31vjeuxhey
12:16.36slightlyrandomHEYO!
12:16.39vjeuxis the map publishing having problem in europe?
12:16.55vjeuxthere are only like 10 published maps
12:17.30*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
12:17.38slightlyrandomWell, perhaps we just all loathe Blizzard and want them to reverse their stance before paying them monaaah
12:17.41slightlyrandom*dances*
12:18.46ubdeadlol
12:20.45monoframewarbio, there's an easier way, while holding CTRL and leftmousebutton (or was it right) drag your mouse
12:21.41slightlyrandomYeah, but that ain't precise!
12:22.03*** part/#sc2mapster HaVoK- (HaVoK@105.70.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com)
12:22.38*** join/#sc2mapster Cismo (cismo@xob.kapsi.fi)
12:25.37ubdeaddont you just hate it when you spend way too much money
12:26.04*** join/#sc2mapster Advima (561e0bfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.30.11.252)
12:26.52ProzaicMuzeNope
12:26.55ProzaicMuzebecause I never spend money
12:27.00ProzaicMuzeEverything I own was stolen
12:27.11ubdeaddid you steal your house
12:27.14ProzaicMuzeIndeed
12:27.19ProzaicMuzeI killed the owners and now pay their bills
12:27.22ubdeadnice lol
12:27.23ProzaicMuzeWith their money >:D
12:27.27ubdeadrofl
12:27.52ubdeadstealing food isnt even worth the trouble i guess
12:27.57ProzaicMuzePsh
12:28.02slightlyrandomJust steal local kids
12:28.03ProzaicMuzeThat's what YOU think
12:28.06slightlyrandomcook em and eat em
12:28.20ubdeadi should go to a restaurant
12:28.29ubdeadand have a nice dinner
12:28.42ubdeadand tell them i pay already
12:28.44ubdeadand walk away
12:28.52Unrea1Took a break from the single player to check the editor out
12:28.58Unrea1I dont see any of the new units :O
12:29.14ProzaicMuzeit's because you're blind
12:29.20ubdeadu sure your not still using the old editor
12:29.25Unrea1FUCK
12:29.29AdvimaIt's here!! finally! Slow postman!
12:29.30Unrea1Shut up
12:29.42ubdeadlol gz
12:29.51Advimahaha :P
12:30.05ubdeadwhen you spot him down the street
12:30.11ubdeadyou go running
12:30.27ubdead"GIVEEEE MEEEEE MY PACKAAAAAAAAAAGE YOOOOOOU FAAAAAAAAAAAAG"
12:30.49AdvimaI was honestly about to send my DT's to his house to kill his family! stupid postman
12:31.29Unrea1I love seein the UI
12:31.36Unrea1Instead of a blue box of gayness
12:31.49ubdeadlol wat
12:32.08Unrea1The leaderboards
12:32.30ubdeadbrb getting some lunch
12:37.36ubdeadalso
12:37.41ubdeadeverbody thats stressed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae7h3S5eVJ0&feature=related
12:37.48*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
12:38.04Unrea1WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
12:38.16ProzaicMuzeWhy do people allow such ugly dogs to exist in the world. . .
12:38.20ubdeadrofl
12:38.31*** join/#sc2mapster AsaPhelps (~asaphelps@pool-151-203-246-75.bos.east.verizon.net)
12:39.52ProzaicMuzehttp://www.mydogbreed.com/images/boston-terrier.jpg
12:39.58ProzaicMuzeSomeone should tell that dog's owner:
12:40.04ProzaicMuze"Yo dog is ugly, put it down"
12:40.32ProzaicMuzeI once dated a gal who has some 5 dogs and 3 cats.
12:40.41ProzaicMuze3 of those dogs were these ugly terrier things
12:40.52ProzaicMuzeShe would always say "my dogs are teh cutest dogs ever!"
12:41.48ProzaicMuzeNo. . . your dogs are abominations upon this earth. . . I eventually dumped her because of said dogs.
12:41.48ubdeadgerman sheppard
12:41.48ubdeadis the only dog
12:41.48ubdeadworth having
12:41.48ProzaicMuzeNot true
12:41.48ProzaicMuzepoodle's are worth having
12:41.48ProzaicMuzeSo you can punt them in place of rich people.
12:41.51ubdeadlolwat
12:41.54ProzaicMuzeThey can't sue you after you punt them across a room in anger.
12:42.27ubdeadlol im not sure im seing your logic
12:44.37Phaosthe campaign was so awesome
12:44.42Phaoswhy did it have to end
12:44.52PhaosI only have one dissapointment since installing SC2
12:44.55monoframe| <-spoiler wall
12:44.56Unrea1Cause you put over 10 hrs into it
12:45.03Phaosthere is no reaver unit, not even in the editor
12:45.14vjeuxyou already finished it?
12:45.17Phaosyep
12:45.20vjeuxzomg :p
12:45.25PhaosI played till 9am, slept 5 hours
12:45.28ProzaicMuzeHe's had the game for 24hrs +
12:45.28*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
12:45.31Phaosgot up and played until finished
12:45.35ProzaicMuzeI still haven't even managed to patch mine :(
12:46.48Phaos:(
12:46.51*** join/#sc2mapster ekcolnvkol (ekcolnovko@pool-173-68-43-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
12:46.52ekcolnvkolwhee
12:46.53Phaosit's totally worth it
12:46.54monoframeyou mean this reaver?
12:46.54monoframehttp://starcraft.incgamers.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=463&cat=517
12:46.55ProzaicMuzeI need teh patch MPQ :(
12:46.58monoframethe low-poly one S:
12:47.19ProzaicMuzeThey likely pulled the reaver
12:47.26ProzaicMuzeand will only put it in the 3rd game
12:47.27*** join/#sc2mapster AsaPhelps (~asaphelps@pool-151-203-51-130.bos.east.verizon.net)
12:47.39ProzaicMuzeThat way they can "add new content" with each of these lame ex-pacs
12:47.47Phaosheh
12:47.48ProzaicMuzeWhen really they just add in stuff that should have been in the 1st game.
12:47.53Phaosthats what I figured as well
12:47.54*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
12:48.02monoframe"GET YOUR REAVERS! GET YOUR REAVERS! WE'RE BUNDLING REAVARARARAWS!"
12:48.40Phaoslike after playing through the campagin I can totally undersntad why it's broken into 3 parts
12:48.45Phaosyou will too when you get to playing
12:48.46monoframeThe one in the picture doesn't seem like hard to make
12:48.54ProzaicMuzeProbably because they split the story up
12:48.55monoframeourselves
12:48.57Phaosthe share amount of work they have put into it is mind boggling
12:49.13Phaosbut certain things being left out i just scratch my head at
12:49.15ProzaicMuzeIf it DIDN'T make sense to split it up after playing the campaign, I'd burn Blizzard to the ground.
12:49.18Phaoslike the raever
12:49.23Phaosreaver*
12:49.40monoframereaper riding reaver?
12:49.41ProzaicMuzeOh, and do you get to play Protoss or Zerg in any of the campaign missions? (IE do you get to play their units)
12:49.45monoframeSANDWORMS WARS!
12:50.30monoframePlease spoil it for yourself in private chat s:
12:50.44ProzaicMuzeIt's not a spoiler lol
12:50.47ProzaicMuzeIt's a simple question
12:50.53ProzaicMuzeIt doesn't reveal story or plot
12:51.05ProzaicMuzeJust whether or not the campaign is totally dedicated to one race
12:51.16monoframestill teasing you
12:51.16monoframeD:
12:51.21ProzaicMuzePsh
12:51.25ProzaicMuzeI'll gut you like a fish!
12:51.27Phaosyou get some protoss missions, nuff said
12:51.32ProzaicMuzemmk, good
12:51.34ProzaicMuzethat's all I wanted
12:51.36ProzaicMuzeI ABHOR Terran
12:51.42ubdeadhey prozaic
12:51.45ubdeadyou cant play right?
12:51.48ProzaicMuzedespite having some cool units, they're still boring to play
12:51.49ProzaicMuzeNope
12:51.50ProzaicMuzeI can't do anything.
12:51.59ubdeadright, so hand over the account details
12:52.02ubdeadill have a look
12:52.34ekcolnvkolwait another 6-12 months lawd
12:52.42*** join/#sc2mapster Arthas-- (5ae166ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.225.102.237)
12:52.53ProzaicMuzelmao
12:53.03ubdeadD:
12:53.07Arthas--soooo, did anyone spend any time on checking how the ingame sequences were done yet
12:53.09ProzaicMuzeIn my mind, until my game works, the game hasn't actually been released yet and you're all hackers
12:53.12Phaosbut all being said, I am imensly proud to be a /blizzard/ fan
12:53.13Arthas--ie, hyperion ones
12:53.18ubdeadrofl
12:53.19*** join/#sc2mapster llama (4e611bc4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.97.27.196)
12:53.33Arthas--since my order is apparently stuck in swedens mail hell hole I cant check myself :(
12:53.39PhaosI watched the making of dvd arthas
12:53.42ubdeadbahhhh
12:53.48Arthas--phaos, at a technical point of view
12:53.52Arthas--can we do it ourselves
12:53.53Arthas--:p
12:54.00Phaosand the ingame cgi is done with something that looks like an expanded version of the previewer
12:54.11Arthas--ah
12:54.23Arthas--a tool not included i tae it
12:54.31Phaosso I think we just get to load the models at this point as eye candy
12:54.49Phaoslike the bar fly... lol
12:54.53ekcolnvkol:O arthas
12:54.55ekcolnvkolpokes
12:55.53ubdeadguys
12:55.59ubdeadsend me your account details
12:56.02vjeuxpoke ekcolnovkol
12:56.04ubdeadill make it worth it
12:56.09vjeuxyour map is #4!
12:56.17AsaPhelpsmine is ubdead.123
12:56.18ekcolnovkolgah! it went down
12:56.20ekcolnovkol./weep
12:56.23AsaPhelpspassword, password
12:56.24vjeuxnah
12:56.26ekcolnovkollol
12:56.27vjeux#4 overall :p
12:56.34ekcolnovkolwho's on top? red TD?
12:56.37vjeuxyup
12:56.44ekcolnovkolshakes fist
12:56.48vjeuxthen crush company thingy
12:56.50ekcolnovkoli don't understand that game ;(
12:56.52vjeuxthen a blizz map
12:56.53vjeuxthen you
12:56.58ekcolnovkola melee map?
12:56.59AsaPhelpsis red td that color td
12:57.06vjeuxyup a melee
12:57.09ekcolnovkolhm
12:57.11ekcolnovkoli can live with that
12:57.16vjeuxbut eu publishing is having trouble
12:57.16ubdeadwhy is it called melee anyway
12:57.22ekcolnovkolwhat kind of trouble
12:57.25Unrea1brb
12:57.26vjeuxpeople can not publish :p
12:57.33AsaPhelpspublication dysnfunction
12:57.36vjeuxso there are like only 15 published map atm
12:57.42vjeuxcan US publish?
12:57.50ekcolnovkoli'm getting my copy in about 4-5 hours
12:58.02monoframehmm, there's no map review, is there?
12:58.08AsaPhelps1 hour here
12:58.17slightlyrandomRed TD = Red Circle TD ?
12:58.20ekcolnovkolyeah
12:58.22vjeuxslightlyrandom: yes
12:58.26ProzaicMuzeDid they add any more MP melee maps?
12:58.27ekcolnovkolthe one with 4 squares
12:58.28ubdeadboooring
12:58.30*** join/#sc2mapster Dedo (50b20a10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.178.10.16)
12:58.31ProzaicMuzeOr is it still just the ones from the beta?
12:58.33slightlyrandomThat game is boring :S
12:58.36ekcolnovkollol
12:58.41monoframeWho checks if the map is both compatable and moreover playable? not just some terrain mix?
12:58.42Phaosyeah they added a whooooole bunch of new melee maps
12:58.53ProzaicMuzeCool beans.
12:59.05ProzaicMuzeBut I will say I'm still sad
12:59.06slightlyrandomCan we access the campaign missions in the editor?
12:59.09Phaosholy crimminy, you can open campagin maps O.O
12:59.10ekcolnovkolvj do you know if i can access multiple regions with one installation
12:59.16ubdeadslightlyrandom yes
12:59.16ekcolnovkolor do i need a unique localization per realm?
12:59.18slightlyrandomCheck out Blizzards Data and Trigger work
12:59.21slightlyrandomNice
12:59.29Phaosyeah thats exactly what I am going to do
12:59.30ProzaicMuzeTheir Data work sucks
12:59.36ProzaicMuzeBlizzard is HORRIBLE with organization in regards to the DE
12:59.37ubdeadwhy
12:59.38slightlyrandomYou need to change at least one file ekcolnovkol
12:59.39ProzaicMuzeJust horrible.
12:59.49ProzaicMuzeMispellings, non-uniform naming conventions
12:59.52ProzaicMuzeIt's just icky eww
13:00.03monoframeMake it better
13:00.03slightlyrandomIt WAS the work of multiple people ^^
13:00.07ProzaicMuzePsh
13:00.09ProzaicMuzeWho cares
13:00.10ekcolnovkolso i can access and publish to multiple regions provided that i have the proper localization, and a realm file pointing to the region?
13:00.12ProzaicMuzethey are a company
13:00.13Arthas--prozaic, thats exactly one of those things one would not expect :p
13:00.17ubdeadProzaicMuze: well it was bad in the beta allready so i believe you
13:00.17PhaosI bet you it's cos they made the maps quickly :P
13:00.22slightlyrandomAnd an account in each region
13:00.23Arthas--multiple ppl
13:00.25ekcolnovkoljust want to make sure each server gets it's fair shake
13:00.29ekcolnovkol:>
13:00.34Arthas--with weird naming conventions, i dont think they spent that much on organizing shit :p
13:00.35AsaPhelpsdo you need to worry about localization if you just use the data editor?
13:00.38ProzaicMuzeIt just takes one meeting that covers the basics:
13:00.42slightlyrandomekcolnovkol: You need to create an account in each region and register a CD key there
13:00.43ekcolnovkolyeah you do apparently
13:00.49ProzaicMuze"This is how you name crap. . . end"
13:00.55ubdeadlol so true
13:00.56ProzaicMuzeorganization solved
13:01.23slightlyrandomAsaPhelps: That depends what you do. If you change unit names and so on, yes
13:01.27slightlyrandomTool tips, etc
13:01.29Arthas--how long til we get the "Increased storage for maps, increased mapsize and ability to dist to different servers" -option from blizz store
13:01.37ubdeadblizzard was like: oh we have everything pretty good orginized, lets fuck with the community and make all the names fubar before release
13:01.42ekcolnovkollmao
13:01.50Arthas--ubdead
13:01.52Arthas--you know
13:01.56Arthas--not that unlikely!
13:01.58Arthas--they must hate us :)
13:02.07slightlyrandomI would
13:02.12ekcolnovkolimagine if they make the mapmakers pay to distribute to cross-region servers
13:02.14Arthas--also, everyone who defends blizzard in here clearly is a blizzard spoy!
13:02.17ekcolnovkolimagine the rage
13:02.17Arthas--spy*
13:02.19ekcolnovkolthe fury
13:02.23ekcolnovkolthe madness
13:02.26slightlyrandomYeah, and the cashflow
13:02.30ekcolnovkol:<
13:02.38Arthas--ekcolnovkol: I actually see it as a possible option :\
13:02.43ubdeadSPY SAPPING MA DATA EDITORS
13:03.05Arthas--I mean, increased space for individual maps + space is most likely to be an option so they can cash in on the peeps who do maps aswell
13:03.08slightlyrandomThey'll probably think of it as doing us a service, selling us publishing access
13:03.14Arthas--yup
13:03.25*** join/#sc2mapster Helral (~Helral@84.31.214.94)
13:03.28Helralmeow
13:03.29slightlyrandomAnd for less of what a new copy of the game would cost! What a bargain!
13:03.32Arthas--meow!
13:03.38ubdeadslightlyrandom lol
13:03.48Arthas--gives helral 2 laserpointers and throws a paperball at blizzard HQ
13:03.56Arthas--GO SUPERCAT GO!
13:04.10*** join/#sc2mapster Sholdak (Sholdak@ool-18b9bd8b.dyn.optonline.net)
13:04.11Helraltoys around with the laserpointers, ignoring the paperball.
13:04.19AsaPhelpssomeone is trying to sell a thor pet on ebay for $100
13:04.28ubdeadlol bet it sells too
13:04.34Arthas--Look sc2mapsterkitten, it's dustin browder, he stole your food!
13:04.36ekcolnovkolhey vjeux
13:04.37AsaPhelpswell most of them are under 20
13:04.43ekcolnovkolwho did the orange sc2 skin
13:04.44Unrea1Thor pets make you play better
13:04.46Arthas--100 usd?
13:04.48ekcolnovkoli mean the site skin
13:04.58AsaPhelpsif usd is american dollars then yes
13:05.10Arthas--the pets, anyone actually bidding on em?
13:05.16Arthas--and if so, whats the highest current bid
13:05.18AsaPhelpssomeone bid on a $10 one
13:05.20Unrea1Hell yes
13:05.28Unrea1The pet is a 1000 Dps increase
13:05.41ProzaicMuzelmao
13:05.42AsaPhelpslol one of them is like $41
13:05.43Arthas--listens to Flogging Molly: - Seven Deadly Sins
13:05.45AsaPhelpsand it says free shipping
13:05.46vjeuxekcolnovkol: profet
13:05.59ProzaicMuzeI could do a better skin
13:06.06AsaPhelpsHey dudes, buy this thor pet, it's pretty awesome. Rly
13:06.09ubdeadekcolnovkol is already giving up on me lol
13:06.13ProzaicMuzeNo clue what we're talking about, but whatever it is, I can do it better >:D
13:06.22ekcolnovkoli'm expanding my options ;)
13:06.28ekcolnovkoloptions are good
13:06.37AsaPhelpshighest bid so far is $51
13:06.39AsaPhelpslol
13:06.46AsaPhelps11 bids on that one too
13:06.51ubdeadsomeppl need to get laid so bad
13:06.52AsaPhelpsone of them is only 99 cents
13:07.04ekcolnovkolvjeux, does he have a portfolio or a site?
13:07.08Arthas--"It's like, the crappiest (but somehow most profitable) MMO combined with THE MIGHTY THOR (see, power rangers sc2 new units clip) from the most awesome franchise ever made!"
13:07.25ubdeadlol wat
13:07.31Arthas--Ill prolly wait a week or so with putting pet on auction :D
13:07.35Vail|Awayhello folks
13:07.40ubdeadhello away
13:07.49Helralhello here
13:07.50ubdeadlol
13:07.56Unrea1I see what you did there
13:07.57Helralxd
13:08.05HelralXD*
13:08.06Vail|hereheh
13:08.11Helraldamned keyboard :P
13:08.39vjeuxhe did http://www.nightsofkalimdor.com/ http://sc2galaxy.net/ ( http://imoutsidethebox.com/blog/ very alpha)
13:08.45Vail|heretwo hours away from picking up my copy
13:09.05Helralinstalling my copy (again)
13:09.14Unrea1lol
13:09.28ProzaicMuzeOooh, site design
13:09.49ProzaicMuzeIn that case I can definitely do better than whatever the link links to (too lazy to look)
13:10.39AsaPhelpsi need to be entertained for the next 50 minutes
13:10.52Vail|heretap dances
13:11.02Arthas--hehe
13:11.03AsaPhelpsnow strip
13:11.07Vail|hereer no...
13:11.09Arthas--ewwwwww
13:11.12Arthas--its a doooood
13:11.16Arthas--thats so wrong
13:11.27AsaPhelpssit on my map
13:11.28AsaPhelpslap
13:12.25ProzaicMuzeI'll strip your computer of all its parts
13:12.30ProzaicMuzestarts stripping
13:12.41Vail|herei want the harddrive...
13:12.53Unrea1I dont want your crappy parts :O
13:13.52Arthas--so
13:14.05Arthas--whos up for some starcraft 1 + bw ? :p
13:14.07monoframehdd control modules are expensive
13:14.13monoframemore than the plates
13:14.14monoframeS:
13:14.17Arthas--hdd control modules?
13:14.18Unrea1Arthas you dont got 2 yet?
13:14.30monoframewell that plastic thing with chipsets
13:14.37Arthas--Unrea1: noe, the postal service sent me faulty information telling me it would be here tomorrow :<
13:14.40Phaoswhy is mapster showing news from ages ago O.o\
13:14.46Arthas--I burnt both the motor and chip on my hdd :D
13:14.48Unrea1Screwwww tgat
13:14.55Unrea1h
13:15.22HelralPhaos: last news item I see is from: Posted by vjeux 3 hours ago
13:16.18AsaPhelpsstarcraft 2 beta announced!
13:16.24AsaPhelpsis that the first thing you see phaos?
13:17.39Phaosoh it's not old, it just has old items mixed in
13:17.42Phaoslike the waterworks demo
13:18.49vjeuxit's a big recap for new people
13:19.02Phaosright
13:19.16Phaossince the influx of new people will be huge now it's gone retail :D
13:19.18Phaosgood idea xD
13:19.34*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
13:21.23ProzaicMuzeSo because I haven't managed to get the game working yet
13:21.33ProzaicMuzeI'm banishing SC2 chat from this channel
13:21.37ProzaicMuzeVjeux will enforce this
13:21.38ProzaicMuzein the mean time
13:21.40Phaoshahahahahahahahaa
13:21.42ProzaicMuzelet's talk TV
13:21.47ProzaicMuzeWho watches Eureka?
13:21.50Phaosnot me
13:21.51Phaosso
13:21.55Phaosthat SC2 then
13:21.58ProzaicMuzeThen you are banished
13:21.58Arthas--STAR TREK
13:21.59Arthas--NUBS
13:22.02Arthas--And stargate
13:22.03Arthas--:D
13:22.05Phaoswith it's craaaaazzzzzzyyy protoss
13:22.17vjeuxwatched the first 10 episodes of eureka
13:22.28vjeuxit's missing the magic
13:22.32ProzaicMuzelol
13:22.36Arthas--jericho was ok
13:22.39AsaPhelpswhat does hdr multiplier do for colors?
13:22.39Arthas--then they cancelled it
13:22.42ProzaicMuzeWell, I started up again last season because they had some cool folks
13:22.45ProzaicMuzeBut I'm about to stop again
13:22.45Arthas--TSCC was ok too
13:22.46vjeuxyeah jericho was pretty cool
13:22.58ProzaicMuzebecause they had what's his face dump a wonderfully attractive woman
13:23.00Arthas--but just as TSCC was to become really interesting they cancelled too
13:23.05ProzaicMuzeso that he could go after the less attractive and more annoying woman
13:23.06Arthas--Firefly anyone?
13:23.12ProzaicMuzeYou shall not speak of that in here
13:23.21vjeuxi've heard a lot of good from firefly but didn't watch it yet
13:23.23ProzaicMuzelest I nerdrage all over interwebz
13:23.45Arthas--vjeux, once stuff calms down here, give it a shot
13:23.47ProzaicMuzeDamned idiots took that show from me once, I shan't be reminded of such troubling times Xp
13:23.48Arthas--You will enjoy it
13:23.51slightlyrandomAsaPhelps: the saturation of the color, as I understand it
13:23.56Arthas--Red Dwarf!
13:23.58slightlyrandomHigher multiplier gives more of the color
13:24.01ProzaicMuzeErm
13:24.02ProzaicMuzenot saturation
13:24.05ProzaicMuzethe brightness
13:24.12Arthas--anyway im off now
13:24.18ProzaicMuzeHigher HDR makes it "glow" brighter
13:24.20Arthas--cya tonight sometime :)
13:24.23slightlyrandomWell, low multiplier and the color is barely visible. High, it overwhelms the model
13:24.40ProzaicMuzeSo if you put a dark color tint and ramp up the HDR, it will actually appear to be a lighter color, but it will be much brighter.
13:24.56ProzaicMuzeA dark color plus high HDR on a model with low opacity can make it pop much better.
13:25.14ProzaicMuzeLike the "restoration" model effect.
13:27.04Phaoslololololol easter egg
13:27.17Phaosthere is a biotank doodad with a metroid inside
13:29.39ProzaicMuzeOh hey, speaking of Firefly
13:29.44ProzaicMuzewho watches Castle?
13:30.01Fiskerzomg nova
13:30.02Fiskerzomg
13:30.03Fiskerzoooooooomg
13:30.57monoframeNova has just become an asset
13:30.58monoframe:|
13:31.02*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
13:32.12ProzaicMuzehrm?
13:32.50vjeuxProzaicMuze: castle is really great :p
13:33.02ProzaicMuzeIndeed it is!
13:33.10ProzaicMuzeThat, Chuck and Bones are my favorite shows rigth now
13:33.11vjeuxdo you know when house starts again?
13:33.17ProzaicMuzeHrm
13:33.28ProzaicMuzeI assume sometime in September when everything else starts, I'd have to look it up though.
13:33.47AsaPhelpsanyone know what actor - filter does under actors? is that something that determines its visibility?
13:33.49vjeuxcool
13:33.51ProzaicMuzeI watch most of my shows through the internet so I don't always know when they are on/off lol
13:34.38ProzaicMuzeYeah, the last 5 season premieres have been in September, so it'll be this september.
13:34.42ubdeadi hate it how "follow" works in sc2
13:34.45*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
13:34.48ubdeadwhy cant it just match the speed of the target
13:35.00monoframeTry adding them to a group
13:35.02AsaPhelpsbecause that'd be way too easy
13:35.06monoframeand assigning same speed value
13:35.08monoframeon events
13:35.10monoframe^_______________^
13:35.22ubdeadit's retarded
13:35.39ProzaicMuzeI do love how most of the hot chics from house are in video games rofl
13:35.41monoframeOr do you like Kodos poking their snorts into your arse?
13:35.47ProzaicMuzeIn fact both 13 and cameron were in Red Alert games lol
13:36.04Unrea1LOL
13:36.04Unrea1The page you were looking for either doesnรขย€ย™t exist or some terrible, terrible error has occurred.
13:36.16Unrea1Sc2 website
13:36.22ubdeadim guessing the last lol
13:36.33vjeuxanyone from US here that have it installed?
13:36.43AsaPhelpsi will in 24 minutes
13:36.53AsaPhelpsif I can teleport and install instantly
13:37.01ProzaicMuzeNot I
13:37.04ProzaicMuzeWell,a ctually yes
13:37.07ProzaicMuzeinstalled, but unplayable
13:37.21AsaPhelpswhat do you need vjeux?
13:41.19warbioIs it possible to make a building add units to the trainingqueue by itself?
13:41.53vjeuxjust see the custom list :p
13:42.06*** join/#sc2mapster liq3 (~liquidman@ppp118-209-25-129.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net)
13:43.04Helralwardio: yes.
13:43.07Helralwarbio*
13:43.26Helralthink I posted it somewhere on the forums....
13:43.44Helrala tutorial or something on how to do that. check the tutorials section XD
13:44.45AsaPhelpsnexus wars does that
13:44.54warbioHelral: Yeah I found it on the mapster forums, thanks
13:45.44monoframeOn thought: queue could be replaced with a single barline which would fill up overtime and produce a unit
13:47.00*** join/#sc2mapster Clord (~Clord@62-165-184-94.bb.dnainternet.fi)
13:47.38Clordzzzzzz
13:47.57Clordabout half of even front page maps are played... join game list
13:48.13ClordI kinda assumed this would happen
13:48.14ClordXD
13:48.24ubdeadargh why wont my actor stay visible in fog of war
13:48.39ProzaicMuzeBecause you dont' have it's Visibility set to that
13:48.49ProzaicMuzethe field that originally says "Snapshot" is what you change.
13:49.08ubdeadFieldEarth Actor - Fog VisibilityVisible
13:50.07ubdeadoh wait
13:50.12ubdeadit's not the actor
13:50.20ubdeadi think it's set at the unit
13:50.49ubdeadsweet it worked
13:57.05*** join/#sc2mapster MyName_ (4f74d0fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.116.208.253)
13:57.30*** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~IceChat7@ip-114-201.static.adsl.cheapnet.it)
13:58.40Bibendusthis battle.net account does not include an associated copy of Starcraft II
13:58.43Bibendusand now?
13:59.39ubdeadcall support
13:59.51Bibendusmailing
13:59.58monoframeAre you sure you have registered the key?
14:02.58ProzaicMuzelol
14:03.06ProzaicMuzeYou havin' issues gettin' your SC2 to work as well?
14:03.50*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
14:04.24ProzaicMuze(Btw the correct answer is "Yes, I hate blizzard")
14:04.55Bibendussolved
14:04.58Bibendusneeded to change password
14:04.59BibendusO_O
14:05.26devileskblizzard hates you
14:05.36Vail|hereblizzard hates us all
14:05.45ProzaicMuzeBlizzard just hates me
14:05.55ProzaicMuzeBecause it doesn't want me to go out and teach its peoples the way of the Data Editor
14:06.08Vail|hereteach us oh wise one
14:06.13ProzaicMuzeit would rather we all suffer confusion and maladies wrought by the Data Editor's treacherous ways :(
14:06.31ProzaicMuzelol
14:06.42Vail|herewe are as clean slates before the library of you knowledge
14:07.21Vail|hereseriously though Thanks for your Tutorials they are a Huge help\
14:08.59Vail|herei still can not get the custom mover i am working on to  act the way i want  but i am starting to understand movers more thanks to your tut on them
14:11.01Bibenduscrush company is online on NA and EU servers
14:11.55ProzaicMuzelol good deal Vail :)
14:12.01ProzaicMuzeAnd Bibendus. . . your game sux
14:12.07ProzaicMuzeAnd will forever sux until my game works
14:12.14ProzaicMuzeSo if you want your game to not sux, fix my game! >:D
14:12.19*** join/#sc2mapster Chris_____ (4451d445@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.81.212.69)
14:12.33ProzaicMuzecrosses fingers
14:13.12Ackisso how is SC2 folks?
14:13.17ekcolnovkolproziac
14:13.21Chris_____mine is out for delivery.. lol
14:13.23ekcolnovkolhave you figured out how to ID players based on lobby position?
14:13.27slightlyrandomBy and large not working
14:13.50ProzaicMuzeEkco, can you explain what you are trying to achieve through the IDs?
14:14.26Ackisis there anyway to create a second persona?
14:14.33slightlyrandomBuy another game
14:15.01slightlyrandomEither of the interpretations will do. Get WC3 or get one more copy of SC2
14:15.31Ackisalready have WC3 added, wasn't aware that the personas were associated with game purchases
14:16.14slightlyrandomNo, Activision/Blizzard has decided to do quite a few things differently this time around
14:16.50AsaPhelpsI just got my copy of sc2, woohoo
14:16.58ubdeadgzgz
14:17.08Vail|herei am a mere hour away from getting mine
14:17.42AsaPhelpswhats the point of wow guest passes
14:17.49AsaPhelpscan't you just get one through the website
14:17.59RepoNew announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/read-me-lost-viking-l800etc-data-overview/
14:18.06AckisI was wondering that myself
14:18.15Ackiswas wondering what the SC2 guest passes were for as well
14:18.15slightlyrandomI guess they tie in to your WoW account, if you have one on the same account as your SC2 game
14:18.33slightlyrandomThat is, if you recruit a friend, and they buy a month, you get a month free
14:18.51AsaPhelpsmeh
14:18.58AsaPhelpshow does sc2 trial work, 10 days?
14:19.13Ackisyou get anything if they buy the game?
14:20.23depthsofchaosan achievement: "cows go moo"
14:20.33*** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (~zoxc@ti0128a340-dhcp0032.bb.online.no)
14:21.03AsaPhelpsspoil more
14:21.21AsaPhelpsi don't want to know cows are important
14:21.31Vail|herethere is a cow level
14:21.35depthsofchaosthe cows blizzard milks are
14:21.57AsaPhelpsthis installer is one of the most annoying ever
14:22.49Vail|NotHerelater all
14:23.51*** join/#sc2mapster FireryRage (~FireryRag@129-97-120-67.uwaterloo.ca)
14:23.56Bibendusprozaic
14:24.01Bibenduswhat does your game have
14:24.15ProzaicMuzelol
14:24.21ProzaicMuzeIt's SC2 itself
14:24.22Bibendusi was a bit afk
14:24.23ProzaicMuzeit won't patch :(
14:24.28Bibendusmm
14:24.34Bibendusreinstalled hundred of times?
14:24.37ProzaicMuzeLike 5
14:24.44ProzaicMuzethat = hundreds in my book lol
14:24.59Bibendusdid u run
14:25.00Bibendusthe exe
14:25.02Bibendusas administrator?
14:25.04*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
14:26.00ProzaicMuzeI disabled that crappy "administrator" stuff
14:26.04slightlyrandomWindows is broken if it requires administrator priviledges to install stuff
14:26.06ProzaicMuzeI can run it as any login account type.
14:26.15AsaPhelpsi think thats more on blizzard's end
14:26.56Bibendusi know the crappy administrator stuff
14:26.59Bibendusbut try
14:27.02BibendusRun as administrator
14:27.23AsaPhelpswhoa jon stewart grew a beard
14:27.24Bibendusif it doesnt patch
14:27.32Bibendusu have problems connecting to the patch server i suppose
14:27.35Bibendusfirewalls, dns problems, etc
14:27.51monoframedns has nothing to do with it lol
14:27.56ProzaicMuzeWhat I mean is, it no longer checks for administrator
14:28.04ProzaicMuzeFrom day one I have disabled that part of my OS entirely.
14:28.18slightlyrandomProzaicMuze: Clearly this is unexpected behavior, and it makes the installer freak out and fail
14:28.34ProzaicMuzelol
14:28.42monoframeyou could check eventviewer
14:28.46ProzaicMuzeAlready have
14:28.49ProzaicMuzeno erroes
14:28.51ProzaicMuzeerroes*
14:28.55ProzaicMuzeerrors************************************************
14:29.06monoframeturned of uneeded for patching applications?
14:29.08monoframeoff*
14:29.41Bibendusprozac I know but
14:29.42Bibendustry it
14:29.46Bibenduswindows is windows
14:29.46Bibendus:D
14:29.50ProzaicMuzelol
14:29.50depthsofchaosanyone tryed map locking?
14:29.54ProzaicMuzeI can't run as administrator
14:29.58Bibendusu dont have this?
14:30.06ProzaicMuzeBecause the program is disabled, it's no longer an option
14:30.08ProzaicMuzeIt doesn't pop up
14:30.09Bibendusit should not disappear
14:30.17ProzaicMuzeIt does if I turned it off
14:30.19Bibendusno
14:30.22Bibendusi dont mean the popup
14:30.26Bibendusi mean the
14:30.30Bibendusright click on application
14:30.35Bibendusyou should have the run as admin here
14:30.39Bibenduseven if u disabled it
14:30.52ProzaicMuzeNo, I shouldn't and it isn'y there
14:31.06Bibendusso dunno
14:31.11Bibendusbliz support O_O
14:31.12ProzaicMuzeI turned it off thus the option no longer appears because the program isn't there to place the option.
14:31.31ProzaicMuzeI have completely removed the program because it is evil incarnate
14:31.34ProzaicMuze:)
14:31.49ProzaicMuzeBut that wouldn't really help anyways because the program doesn't have issues starting
14:31.57ProzaicMuzeIt just doesn't believe there is a patch to install, while also demanding I install a patch.
14:31.58*** join/#sc2mapster Bifuu|X (~Bifuu@138.sub-97-172-177.myvzw.com)
14:32.33Bifuu|XMy electricity is out QQ
14:32.53Bibendusprozaic
14:32.57Bibendusdoes it just run the client
14:33.01Bibendusand then he says there is no patch?
14:33.06Bibendusor it freezes
14:33.30slightlyrandomBifuu|X: Stealing your neighbours wifi, then?
14:34.08ProzaicMuzeFor the game:
14:34.30ProzaicMuzeStarts the loader, says a patch is needed and asks if I'd like to install.  I click ok and it attempts to start the program again.  Repeat ad nauseum.
14:34.35ProzaicMuzeFor the editor:
14:34.51Bibenduslooping patch?
14:35.00ProzaicMuzeStarts the editor, says a patch is required before I can activate and asks if I'd like to apply it.  I click ok and it attempts to start the editor again.  Repeat ad nauseum.
14:35.02ProzaicMuzeYep.
14:35.06Bifuu|X3g phone lol power is out here for at least 15 miles around
14:35.10Bibendusmmm
14:35.13*** join/#sc2mapster Curt` (~DorkeyDea@adsl-76-241-81-242.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net)
14:35.16Bibendusthere is something in the tl forum about that
14:35.24Bibendusin beta someone had this problem
14:35.29ProzaicMuzeThe Patcher says there is no patch to apply and the Downloader says there is no patch to download.
14:43.09*** join/#sc2mapster TheLaughingMan (~TheLaughi@99-71-64-200.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net)
14:43.22ProzaicMuzegah
14:43.27ProzaicMuzeGrapefruit is such a kick to the face sometimes lol
14:43.30TheLaughingManLulz, vernam is at it again
14:47.01ProzaicMuzewho is vernam?
14:47.11Fiskeromg secret mission
14:47.19Fiskerbtw
14:47.21Fiskerif you want it
14:47.25Fiskerduring the media blitz mission
14:47.32Fiskerthere's a science center in the lower right
14:47.34Fiskerdestroy it
14:47.48ProzaicMuzeI figure if you destroy all things, that gets you all missions
14:47.51ProzaicMuzeIncluding your own units
14:48.02Fisker;D
14:48.58Fiskerbattle.net is a jerk though
14:49.04Fiskerit disconnected me a few missions ago
14:49.10Fiskerand it doesn't automatically reconnect
14:50.30ProzaicMuzelol wait, so you have to stay connected to the internet in order to play single player?
14:50.54Fiskernaw ProzaicMuze
14:51.00Fiskerbut stuff like achievements and shit doesn't work
14:51.40*** join/#sc2mapster Gwypaas (~I@78-69-139-83-no129.tbcn.telia.com)
14:51.41ProzaicMuzePsh
14:51.45ProzaicMuzeachievements are ghey anyways
14:51.54ProzaicMuze"Play the game for 30secs in a row without blinking"
14:51.55*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
14:51.55ProzaicMuzeACHIEVEMENT!
14:52.25Phaossrs
14:52.45Phaos"grats you finished the mission, have a gold star"
14:53.23*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o nicoli_s] by ChanServ
14:54.22ProzaicMuzeNo no. . .
14:54.38ProzaicMuze"Gratz you started the mission and played it for 5mins before savign the game"
14:54.40ProzaicMuzeACHIEVEMENT!
14:54.55ekcolnovkolpfft i already have all the achievements
14:54.59ekcolnovkolin editor :D
14:55.17Phaosme too!
14:58.41ProzaicMuzegah
14:58.42ProzaicMuzedouble gah
14:58.45ProzaicMuzestupd
14:58.46ProzaicMuzestupid
14:58.47ProzaicMuzeeditor
14:58.55*** join/#sc2mapster FireryRage (~FireryRag@129-97-120-67.uwaterloo.ca)
15:00.36*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
15:04.19AsaPhelpsare any of the achievements in single player hard to get
15:07.45*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
15:10.31Ackisthere's already a trainer out for SC2
15:11.26*** join/#sc2mapster Funkeh` (~funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh)
15:13.43nicoli_slol
15:13.51nicoli_sand im sure you havent used it right ackis? :P
15:14.07*** join/#sc2mapster Roddy (~IceChat7@static-71-121-248-8.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net)
15:14.14Zoxcalready?
15:14.30RodOfSC2hi zoxc
15:14.31ZoxcSC2 has been out for months =P
15:14.43RodOfSC2what do we know?
15:15.12AsaPhelpsyou have fios, i hate you
15:15.52Ackisnicoli_s: I'll be getting it tonight, I haven't played actually yet :P
15:16.03AckisI'm a lifetime member of CheatHappens.com :P
15:16.58AckisI find nothing wrong with modding/cheating in single player for the record :P
15:17.28`MindWorXWell
15:17.30`MindWorXThis is pretty sex
15:17.32*** join/#sc2mapster progammer (71174cc6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.113.23.76.198)
15:17.37Ackismodding is ok for multiplayer if everyone uses it (aka dota, custom maps, etc), cheating is never ok in multiplayer unless it's for lulz (aka logging into friends account and ganking them)
15:17.41`MindWorXSofar Sparsile is working 100% correct with the release editor
15:17.44`MindWorXNo fixes needed
15:18.17nicoli_ssweet
15:18.22ZoxcYou expect Blizzard to improve/fix stuff?
15:18.22`MindWorXIndeed
15:18.33nicoli_sim just updating some of my libs to work with the new patch too
15:18.35`MindWorXWell, the did change the function i hook for saving once
15:18.38nicoli_sjust about got replays working :)
15:18.46`MindWorXBut that was when they added the b.net publishing system stuff
15:18.47ZoxcThey just remove features :)
15:20.47*** join/#sc2mapster Roddy_ (~IceChat7@static-71-121-248-8.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net)
15:21.27`MindWorXYou and your stable IRC Rod :D
15:21.59ProzaicMuzehttp://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/off-topic/2344-tdgs-map-making-contest-400-in-prizes/?page=2#p35
15:22.01ProzaicMuzethis guy is an idiot.
15:22.05ProzaicMuzeAnd that contest is a sham.
15:22.48`MindWorXThe TDG guys are generally very nice people, i think the contest is real enough
15:23.09`MindWorXAnyways, if you think it's a sham, don't compete
15:23.23AsaPhelpshe's trying to trick us so there are fewer entries
15:24.15ProzaicMuzeI wont' be competing
15:24.22ProzaicMuzeBut that particular TDG guy is a fool
15:24.28AsaPhelpsi'm 90% sure that AOTZ > DOTA! was a game I hosted
15:24.30ProzaicMuzeAnd while the contest is "real," it's still a shame
15:24.40ProzaicMuzesham*
15:24.57ProzaicMuzeYou don't openly admit that you are baised against certain things before the contest voting occurs in the way that he did.
15:25.18ProzaicMuzeHe essentially said that if your game is complex or resembles DotA it sucks and will likely be pushed aside for more "creative' content.
15:25.54monoframewell, taking already prebuilt concept and pushing it into SC2 realm, doesn't resemble creativity much
15:26.05monoframegameplay-wise
15:26.07*** join/#sc2mapster ckknight (~ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight)
15:26.07*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
15:26.08monoframenot map making
15:26.48monoframeCause even if porting gameplay from one platform (WC3) to another (Sc2) it still takes a lot of creative input but in MAP MAKING aspect
15:26.57ProzaicMuzeAye
15:27.20ProzaicMuzeIf someone makes an amazing DotA clone, that requires creativity because you had to make it amazing.  You can't just rely on the DotA genre.
15:27.57monoframeSo while gameplay is not new-founded, something unheard of, the map making will be mostly a creative work/collaboration (if you're not stealing premade triggers from tutorials lol)
15:28.24monoframeso of course, TDG is targeting the gameplay aspect
15:28.45*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
15:28.48monoframecause in the end, it's the sole purpose you're developing a map
15:29.19monoframewell, to make it more concrete, gameplay experience-driven map
15:29.20ProzaicMuzeNot really
15:29.20monoframe:)
15:29.23monoframe:(
15:29.24monoframe:'(
15:29.33ProzaicMuzeI don't make a map simply because I want amazing gameplay
15:29.45ProzaicMuzeI often make maps because I enjoy the process.
15:31.12*** join/#sc2mapster mikelat (~mikelat@H10.C205.cci.switchworks.net)
15:31.12monoframeyou attribute the process only to GE, or just making something of sort in a broader sense?
15:31.50ProzaicMuzeNow that question i don't entirely understand Xp
15:33.01monoframeARGH-
15:34.00*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
15:35.22Phaosloading up my map from the beta. I don't think I have access to the retail assets
15:35.30Phaosanyone know how I can fix that ?
15:35.52Phaoswithout making the map think I imported 3.27 gig of files into my map
15:35.53nicoli_sPhaos:you needto add dependencies to the new libraries
15:36.10*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
15:36.12Phaosenglish ? :P
15:36.16Phaosand thanks
15:36.37nicoli_si dont use the editor so i dont know where thats at, i just know thats what you need to do
15:36.56*** join/#sc2mapster Fromethius (d03a751d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.58.117.29)
15:37.49*** join/#sc2mapster hakowy (57cd2b7c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.205.43.124)
15:39.03ProzaicMuzeBlah
15:39.03hakowyhi anyone knows what can be a problem when i started starcraft 2 i got instead of intro black screen
15:39.10ProzaicMuzeso even with firewall turned off, I still couldn't locate a patch
15:39.14ProzaicMuzeghey patcher is ghey
15:39.15hakowyand only way i could skip was esc key
15:39.30Fiskerhey nicoli_s
15:39.34Fiskernot so hey ProzaicMuze
15:39.58Helral`hmmmmm I can't login to battle net for publishing with the sc2editor :(
15:40.15Helralit won't accept my login info.... says it's incorrect, while it is correct.
15:40.48PhaosHelral. wouldn't happen to know how to add the retail assets to a beta custom map would you? without importing the 3 odd extra gig directly into your map ?
15:41.06Helralhmmm?
15:41.23slightlyrandomWhen you create a map, you select which assets to include
15:41.24*** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (6d545a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.84.90.31)
15:41.28Phaosloaded up my map from phase two, and it's missing all the campaign assets
15:41.37Phaosyes I know random
15:41.40Helralcheck the dependencies.
15:41.42Phaosbut this is AFTER the map is made
15:41.49Phaoswhere are these dependencies ?
15:41.59HelralFile --> dependencies.
15:42.09Phaosdurp
15:42.12Phaoscheers
15:42.16ProzaicMuzePsh
15:42.19ProzaicMuzeI hate you too Fisker
15:42.23ProzaicMuzeI hope you die
15:42.24ProzaicMuzealone
15:42.25ProzaicMuzein a hole
15:42.30AsaPhelpswhere are the campaign maps located?
15:42.58ProzaicMuzebut I'll brb
15:43.00Phaoswell that most def fixed my problem, thanks
15:43.01ProzaicMuzegonna try a reset
15:43.05ProzaicMuzeor 3
15:43.50Ackiswow the sc2 usb drive is sexy
15:44.26ekcolnovkolwat
15:44.34ckknightI have SC2!
15:44.36Ackiss/drive/stick/
15:44.58Helralhmmmmm
15:45.33Helralcan anyone tell me why I cannot login using the sc2editor..... (using the correct credentials although blizzy says they're not)
15:45.43Ackisit came in the CE, it has SC1 installed on it and looks like a Jim Raynor dog tag that lights up when you plug it in
15:45.47ekcolnovkolhttp://www.blogcdn.com/news.bigdownload.com/media/2010/04/starcraft2ceapril600004.jpg
15:45.48ekcolnovkoloh my god
15:45.52ekcolnovkoli came
15:46.06ekcolnovkolTHAT there is hero material >:D
15:48.11Helralhmmmmm
15:48.44Helralah well... let's see how well SC2 will work on my laptop. cya lot later.
15:52.13*** join/#sc2mapster ProzaicMuze (~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
15:52.19ProzaicMuzeCurse you foul starcraft patcher!
15:52.22ProzaicMuzeI WILL END YOU!
15:53.09ProzaicMuzeDoes anyone know of a mirror for downloading the patch or can maybe host the MPQ for the patch you've already downloaded?
15:53.19ProzaicMuzeI just need to get that darned thing onto my computer so I can manually apply it.
15:55.36hakowyanyone got similar problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLhBKt5Tbgs ?
15:56.41Vail|NotHeredont you have to add the key to your battle net account
15:57.02hakowyi added
15:57.08Vail|NotHerehmm
15:57.16hakowyim really mad now
15:57.23hakowyi have just bought sc2 and it doesnt work
15:57.42ProzaicMuzelol
15:57.44ProzaicMuzeI can't patch the game :(
15:58.01ProzaicMuzeSo we can be raging gamers together.
15:59.05AsaPhelpsmine plays fine, suckers
15:59.08hakowyi have also 1 more problem, when i launched game, instead of intro i got black screen
15:59.46AsaPhelpsare you sure you're using the right account?
16:00.10hakowyoffcourse
16:00.24AsaPhelpsare you....sure
16:00.28hakowyim logging with my mail
16:00.47hakowyim logging same way to sc2 bnet as on bnet accout
16:00.50hakowy*account
16:01.42AsaPhelpsso your account says you have sc2?
16:01.45monoframeblack screen, did your system or the application crash?
16:01.47hakowywow i cant even play campaign it sucks
16:01.56hakowyno it was just black screen
16:01.56monoframewait
16:02.01hakowyand i skipped it by pressing esc key
16:02.10hakowyyes on my account i have registered sc2
16:02.11monoframeThe sound was no looping?
16:02.14monoframeWas it playing?
16:02.18monoframenot*
16:02.27hakowynothing just black screen
16:02.33hakowyi waited, and skipped it by esc key
16:02.36monoframeAre you sure you have right codecs installed?
16:02.43monoframefor video playback
16:02.44hakowyi have no codecs
16:02.46hakowyshould i?
16:02.51hakowyjust windows 7 standard
16:03.01monoframewell yeah, cause intro should be compressed into a video file s:
16:03.49monoframeTry installing K-Lite Codec Pack
16:03.53monoframeand try afterwards
16:03.57hakowyok i will get them
16:04.02monoframeit's a pack
16:04.02hakowybut i still cant log into bnet
16:04.08*** join/#sc2mapster Lazbro (~chatzilla@91.182.101.17)
16:04.14hakowyi know installed it hundred times
16:04.58Lazbrovjeux: the EU upload is bugged
16:05.50Vail|NotHere50% INSTALLED
16:06.38hakowyguy here has same problem as me
16:06.39hakowyhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=138914
16:06.39AsaPhelpsat 90% it gets good
16:07.03Lazbrohmmmm
16:07.07ProzaicMuzelol
16:07.12hakowymany guys here have same problem
16:07.15ProzaicMuzeWhy can't anyone have the same problem as me :(
16:07.16hakowyfuck i want play
16:08.27hakowyhm  - Log into your Battle.net account.  - Go: Account > Settings > Communication Preferences  - Switch your language to match the play region.
16:10.53*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
16:10.56*** join/#sc2mapster rabbitx86 (~rabbit@static-71-242-242-171.phlapa.east.verizon.net)
16:10.57Bibendusgo play crush company, you DESERVe it!
16:12.23Lazbrodoes it work online?
16:12.28Lazbrowith keyboard controls and all?
16:13.08Bibendusy
16:13.10Bibendusa bit of lag
16:13.12depthsofchaosok im sick of jim raynor lookin at me like im his bitch
16:13.15Bibendusbut less then he beta
16:13.16depthsofchaoson the loading screen
16:13.19Bibendusits both on US and EU
16:13.25Bibenduslol
16:13.38Bibendusjim is soo sexy
16:13.45BibendusxD
16:14.01depthsofchaosway too sexy for me
16:15.18ProzaicMuzeI wish Jimy raynor would look at me like that. . .
16:15.22ProzaicMuzeHe just doesn't look at me at all :(
16:15.25ProzaicMuzefeels unloved!
16:15.45Vail|NotHere93%
16:18.06*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
16:19.42*** join/#sc2mapster Furyhunter (~Furyhunte@cpe-70-112-108-97.austin.res.rr.com)
16:20.13Vail|IsHerehung at 98...
16:20.30ProzaicMuzesounds like a personal problem
16:20.35Vail|IsHerehah
16:20.53Vail|IsHerenope it just finished
16:21.30Vail|IsHerenow to see if it patches or not
16:21.52*** join/#sc2mapster Ashamed (20616e3e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.32.97.110.62)
16:22.01Ashamedlong time no see
16:22.46Vail|IsHerelooks like its patching just fine..
16:22.58ProzaicMuzepsh
16:23.10*** join/#sc2mapster birne (~birne@xdsl-87-78-38-102.netcologne.de)
16:23.11ProzaicMuzeI want your patcher
16:24.41nicoli_sbtw, ive already said this, but keep your eyes peeled for a new sc2 site soon :)
16:24.53Ashamedwhat site?
16:24.58nicoli_scant say :)
16:24.58Ashamedbetter then sc2 mapster??
16:25.02ProzaicMuzeAs in be prepared to flock it with positive influence or swamp it with egg tossing?
16:25.07nicoli_sdiff than sc2mapster
16:25.11nicoli_sbut still sc2 focused
16:25.15Ashamednot a map site?
16:25.19Ashamedor still a map site?
16:25.25nicoli_swell, sorta almost :)
16:25.31Ashamedlol
16:25.34AshamedOH shiz
16:25.49Ashamedfree blow jobs at least??
16:25.55nicoli_si did a big portion of the coding myself, so im pretty proud of it
16:25.57nicoli_si wish :P
16:26.32vjeuxrazer contest result
16:26.32vjeuxhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137720&currentpage=13
16:27.11Vail|IsHereProzaic did you close and restart your patcher a few times?
16:27.18ProzaicMuzeoh well if YOU made the majority of the site, then we definitely better egg it
16:27.20ProzaicMuzeAnd yes
16:27.22Ashamedthe 3rd one most def = best
16:27.31Ashamedhe put lighting in it to make it look more 3d
16:27.33Ashamedthe baneling
16:27.35Vail|IsHereweird..
16:27.53ProzaicMuzei've reinstalled, rebooted, restarted, recycled etc
16:28.10ProzaicMuzeIt is completely convinved there is no patch
16:28.13ProzaicMuzebut it wants one anyways
16:28.15Vail|IsHerethere is
16:28.56Vail|IsHerethere is a small patch and then a bigger patch
16:29.33Vail|IsHereid just close the patcher and reopen it five or six times i had to do that during beta ..
16:29.53ProzaicMuzelol
16:30.09ProzaicMuzeThat doesn't do anything
16:30.13Fromethiushey proz in the meantime you can help me with my map!! lol
16:30.25ProzaicMuzethe patcher doesn't start because it doesn't think it needs to start.
16:30.38ProzaicMuzePsh, no I can't
16:30.41Fromethiusyou try deleting recent patches?
16:30.43Vail|IsHereah...
16:30.44Fromethiusthen repatching?
16:30.50ProzaicMuzeThere are no recent patches to delete
16:30.52ProzaicMuzeIt's the retail version
16:30.58Fromethiusoh yeah
16:31.07Vail|IsHereare  the right ports enabled ?
16:31.16ProzaicMuzeYes
16:31.26Vail|IsHereyou have a firewall maybe?
16:31.27slightlyrandomProzaicMuze: You gotta jiggle the flux capacitor
16:31.29ProzaicMuzeand that wouldn't be the problem unless they changed ALL of the ports from the beta
16:31.34ProzaicMuzeWhat if I ate that? :S
16:31.41ProzaicMuzeI already turned the firewall off and tried it.
16:31.44ProzaicMuzeNo dice.
16:32.32Fromethiusare people playing starcraft retail right now?
16:32.36Fromethiusmaybe you just have to wait..
16:32.45AsaPhelpsthey are
16:33.12Fromethiusi'm out of ideas then
16:33.25Fromethiusbe back later
16:33.37slightlyrandomProzaicMuze: You haven't got a different computer or OS you can try it on, have you?
16:33.53ProzaicMuzeNope
16:33.55ProzaicMuzewell
16:33.56ProzaicMuzeyes
16:33.56ProzaicMuzebut
16:33.58ProzaicMuzeNo
16:34.03slightlyrandomawesome
16:34.23ProzaicMuzeI have a bajillion computers I can try it on, but they're all setup for old games and wouldn't be able to start it up anyways.
16:34.37slightlyrandomWell, testing if they can patch would be good enough
16:34.52slightlyrandomDon't need fancy 3d graphics for that
16:35.49slightlyrandomAnd you reinstalled the thing already?
16:36.31slightlyrandomWondering if it somehow messed up a config file or regedit entry
16:37.54ProzaicMuzeYeah, I did all of the above x5
16:37.57ProzaicMuzemaybe x6
16:38.00ProzaicMuzeit was a long night Xp
16:38.30slightlyrandom:D
16:42.43ProzaicMuzewtf
16:42.43ProzaicMuzeok
16:42.46Vail|IsHereProzaic you made sure to uninstall the beta right?
16:42.52ProzaicMuzeOh yeah
16:42.58ProzaicMuzeThat's why I can't do anythign in the editor rofl
16:43.22ProzaicMuzeI'm being stonewalled by teh starcraftz :(
16:43.35ProzaicMuzeoh well
16:43.35ProzaicMuzereinstall number kajibilion
16:44.26*** join/#sc2mapster cloudwolf (~chatzilla@c-71-227-249-44.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
16:44.42*** join/#sc2mapster Hati (kvirc@dslb-092-078-027-247.pools.arcor-ip.net)
16:44.42*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Hati] by ChanServ
16:45.22Hatihello
16:45.58*** join/#sc2mapster movali (5dd45f27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.212.95.39)
16:46.04nicoli_syo
16:46.12movalihi
16:46.30movaliwhat custom map is the most popular right now?
16:47.00ProzaicMuzea crappy one most likely
16:48.18vjeux|awaymovali: red circle td
16:48.22vjeux|awayin europe
16:49.32Hati"Sie erstellen einen StarCraft IIยฎ: Wings of Liberty-Account."
16:49.33Hatiyay
16:49.38movalithanks
16:49.44monoframeDAT GERMAN
16:49.52slightlyrandomBloody nazis
16:50.00Hatishroo
16:50.32*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
16:51.12*** join/#sc2mapster ubdead (~kvirc@5ee53e4e.dsl.concepts.nl)
16:51.47AsaPhelpsUS is red circle as well
16:57.30depthsofchaosanyone from eu wana test changling changing minigame with me ?:o
16:58.47*** join/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
16:58.50*** join/#sc2mapster Kcquipor (54c341c3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.195.65.195)
16:58.56KcquiporHzy guys :D
16:59.03*** part/#sc2mapster valkrail (~stephen@173.180.127.170)
16:59.16AsaPhelpshai
16:59.20depthsofchaoscome on keep it civil, you all get a turn
16:59.32*** join/#sc2mapster Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys)
16:59.33AsaPhelpsif you  come to us I'll test
16:59.47depthsofchaosif you buy me a us account i test :P
16:59.59AsaPhelpsif you come to the us i'll give you money
17:00.22Kcquipori need someone REALY BADLY !!! that can upload battlecraft on EU servers :( i wanne play *cry*
17:00.26depthsofchaosif you get me a green card and a gun ill go to the us
17:00.38AsaPhelpswhat if I give you a green gun
17:00.48depthsofchaosthen i shoot myself
17:00.57depthsofchaosgreen gun it is i know!
17:00.59AsaPhelpshands depth a green gun
17:01.12AsaPhelps~8ball Should depth come to the US?
17:01.15purlAre you smoking crack?
17:01.21depthsofchaosthis crappy thing doesnt fire all it says " flower powe"!
17:01.26depthsofchaospower*
17:01.34AsaPhelps~8ball is depth smoking crack?
17:01.35purlSure. Yeah, exactly.
17:01.48depthsofchaosno!!!!! im clean since half an hour
17:02.05depthsofchaosKcquipor dont you wana test my map with me?:o
17:02.07depthsofchaosits fun
17:02.10depthsofchaosat least for me
17:02.13Jum-JumAn 8ball!?
17:02.15AsaPhelpsfor that changling game if you can't move is it implied you lose
17:02.26depthsofchaosno
17:02.35Jum-Jum~8ball Am I getting laid this month?
17:02.36purlPlease ask again.
17:02.38`MindWorXNo
17:02.41Jum-Jum:(
17:02.48depthsofchaosit still depends on the changling count
17:02.53Ashamedin like 6 months sc2 will be so epic -.- with all the custom maps
17:03.11AsaPhelps~8ball Are you getting laid this month?
17:03.12purlPlease ask again.
17:03.15*** join/#sc2mapster Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys)
17:03.15Jum-JumI can't decide, should I go hard or brutal in the campaign?
17:03.20AsaPhelpsbrutal
17:03.21`MindWorXHas anyone tried manually changing how many players a map allows? Like, edit the SC2Map file with an mpq browser
17:03.22AshamedBRTAL
17:03.22Jum-JumI was diamond 1v1 but not very high ranked
17:03.27Jum-JumROGER THAT
17:03.30Jum-JumGL HF me :|
17:03.33depthsofchaosjum jum, brutal cause you will get kerrigan avatar
17:03.37depthsofchaosand its hawt
17:03.42AsaPhelpsYou do?
17:03.44AsaPhelpsSnap
17:03.45depthsofchaosyep
17:03.48AshamedDO IT
17:03.56Ashamedjum jum it will prob take you like weeks
17:03.56Ashamedlol
17:04.03AsaPhelpsdoes difficulty even matter if its not melee
17:04.05depthsofchaosits worth it
17:04.15depthsofchaoscome on anyone from eu ???
17:04.31Ashamedwhen is region lock suppose to be lifted?
17:04.45depthsofchaoswhen the prophecy is fullfiled
17:05.00AsaPhelpswe must sacrifice a virgin
17:05.05AsaPhelps*looks at depth*
17:05.11Ashamedpoor depth ><
17:05.13Ashamedit must be you
17:05.17Kcquiporneed battlecraft on EU servers !
17:05.20AsaPhelpsso was kerrigan a ginger
17:05.23AsaPhelpsor a daywalker
17:05.30depthsofchaoswhat, im the one who youre sacrificing to :p
17:05.35AshamedI hope you are not lyling or else you will become a succubus
17:05.54depthsofchaoscheck it yourself
17:06.03AsaPhelpshow many maps does campaign have, like 10?
17:06.10depthsofchaos26
17:06.10Ashameda million
17:06.17Ashamedits suppose to be 3x as long as the first one
17:06.18AsaPhelps26 oh not bad
17:06.21depthsofchaosim holding on for a hhherrooooooooooooo
17:06.27depthsofchaosa player from the euuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
17:06.56ProzaicMuzeKerrigan being a Ginger explains why the zerg ate her soul
17:07.06Ashamedit does prozaic
17:07.10AsaPhelpsthat would mean she had a soul to begin with
17:07.10depthsofchaosgingers got no soul
17:07.10ProzaicMuzeOr rather replaced the lack thereof with zerginess
17:07.30ProzaicMuzelol
17:07.31depthsofchaosneidther do starcraft players
17:07.36ProzaicMuzeLies
17:07.38ProzaicMuzeI have multiple souls
17:07.40depthsofchaosprove it
17:07.40ProzaicMuzeI collect them
17:07.54depthsofchaospics or didnt happen
17:07.57monoframeNote, deep ones do not play starcraft
17:08.07monoframePROZAIC'S A DEEP ONE! HIDE!
17:08.08AsaPhelpsmuze, do you have a good way to make a crit strike ability in the data editor? I tried to make like a proc that would cause the weapon effect to fire twice but it kinda sucks especially for ranged
17:08.21depthsofchaosasa
17:08.26ProzaicMuzeDo you want percentage based or flat?
17:08.28depthsofchaosapply behaviour on attack
17:08.36depthsofchaosthat has a chance of reciving 2x damage
17:08.47depthsofchaosand remove it right after
17:08.48AsaPhelpslike 20% or whatever
17:08.57AsaPhelpsthat might be good
17:09.06depthsofchaosits good i tested
17:09.08depthsofchaosor
17:09.09ProzaicMuzeIf you want scaled damage, then applying a behavior with a damage response is good.
17:09.12depthsofchaosyou can go the ugly way
17:09.20depthsofchaosand have an effect with double damage
17:09.21ProzaicMuzeYou can set a %chance and you can put a %damage
17:09.24depthsofchaosand use randomized SET
17:09.34ProzaicMuzeThat's not an ugly way at all
17:09.37AsaPhelpsi read that ugly way
17:09.41ProzaicMuzeIt's simpler and is less likely to be buggy
17:09.53depthsofchaosits ugly cause you cant get the % you want :p
17:10.02ProzaicMuzeYes you can
17:10.05ProzaicMuzejust use simple percentages
17:10.18depthsofchaosi want 69,34%!
17:10.34ProzaicMuzeghey percentage is ghey
17:10.51depthsofchaosits proven that this is the damage that makes you shit bricks
17:10.58depthsofchaosanything alse is ineffective
17:10.58ProzaicMuze@.@
17:11.19ProzaicMuzeI'd prefer if bricks didn't exit my body in any fashion.
17:11.32AsaPhelpswhat if you need to build a house
17:11.33depthsofchaosbut your enemy would not
17:11.50ProzaicMuzeI'll buy bricks
17:11.58ProzaicMuzeOr better yet, wood
17:12.05depthsofchaosyoure trapped in a room with 0 bricks
17:12.16depthsofchaosand have to build shelter from the wild animals
17:12.29ProzaicMuzeWhat, are the animals IN th room?
17:12.45depthsofchaosim the storyteller shhh!
17:13.34ProzaicMuzeyour story is teh sux
17:14.32depthsofchaosoh well ill start bumping then -.-
17:14.34depthsofchaosFUUUUUUUUUUUU
17:14.48AsaPhelpsdo you have a newer tutorial than your projectiles one muze
17:14.52ProzaicMuzeNot atm
17:14.57ProzaicMuzeI have 6 that I wanted to do
17:14.58ProzaicMuzebut can't
17:15.10ProzaicMuzebecasue I don't have an editor to make the example maps with :(
17:15.22Hatiso lets see the final product :o
17:15.34ProzaicMuzeSo whenever I get my editor fixed, I'll push out 6 more tutorials.
17:15.58ProzaicMuzeCorrection: when I get my PATCHER fixed. . .
17:16.57devileskhttp://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/off-topic/5159-devilesks-signature-avatar-shop/
17:17.00*** join/#sc2mapster Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys)
17:17.08Ashamedanyone ever play the map escape from school
17:17.10Ashamedor w/e it was called
17:17.14Ashamedback in the day for sc?
17:17.21devileskyes
17:17.35AshamedI think i am going to make BURN IBM ... and make it the same type of map ;-)
17:17.59devileskit was called a day at school i think
17:17.59AshamedI actually enjoyed that map alot
17:18.04Ashamedthats it
17:18.14Ashamedit was simple but it was really fun -.-
17:18.17Lazbrok it seems WASD controls now actually work o_o
17:18.19devileskyes
17:18.28devileskone of the only good rpgs
17:18.32`MindWorXWASD controls didn't work?
17:18.34Ashamedyeah for sure
17:18.46Lazbrothere was too much lag, it seems fixed now tho
17:18.52Ashamedreally lax
17:18.54Ashamedlaz**
17:18.56Ashamedso they fixed it
17:18.58`MindWorXAre you testing in multiplayer?
17:18.58Ashamedi knew they would -.-
17:18.59devileskin the editor
17:19.02Lazbroworks for me
17:19.04devileskis tehr still the warning?
17:19.18devileskbecause in the description there was a warning saying it would cause lag
17:19.23devileskfor the event
17:19.24Ashamedi mean blizzard outdated like half of the custom maps by not fixing that
17:19.30Lazbrothere still is, but it seems to work now
17:19.37P_R_Deltoidokay
17:19.38`MindWorX[19:18] <`MindWorX> Are you testing in multiplayer?
17:19.43P_R_Deltoidwhy is all the mapping news from the beta being reposted
17:19.45P_R_Deltoidin mass
17:19.47P_R_Deltoidit's kinda annoying
17:20.42LazbroMind: obv
17:21.05`MindWorXHow is that obvious? You do realize 99%, that is, everyone but me, in here are stupid? :P
17:21.40AshamedMind.. I don't think that was very nice
17:21.54`MindWorXAshamed.. I don't think i was being serious
17:22.01devileskare you testing in multiplayer with random people?
17:22.03ProzaicMuzeI'm definitely smarter than you Mind
17:22.05ProzaicMuzeby like 2 points
17:22.11`MindWorX:(
17:22.18devileskand how many people
17:22.21depthsofchaoson a scale of 0 to 2
17:22.28LazbroI've tried Crush Company and my own half-finished map
17:22.32Lazbroin MP yes
17:22.38AsaPhelpsso I tried opening a map in retail editor, and it froze, awesome start so far
17:22.53Lazbrodamn shame I stopped working on it when phase 1 proved to make wasd impossible
17:22.57Lazbrootherwise it'd be FINISHED now
17:23.00LazbroAAARGH
17:23.02Lazbro:(
17:23.10ProzaicMuzeThat's what you get for being a quitter
17:23.26`MindWorXIndeed
17:23.38`MindWorXAnd it wasn't impossible
17:23.42`MindWorXMore like.. Improbable
17:23.58Ashamedyah lazbro should of had a lil bit of faith in blizzard
17:24.00Saerisso, i don't seem to see many maps from you guys in the custom games list
17:24.10`MindWorXDon't have faith in Blizzard
17:24.14`MindWorXNever have faith in blizzard
17:24.14Lazbrok, so do I dump a few months into this map anyway hoping that popularity sort will work out y/n? :p
17:24.24Ashamedwell obv they did something
17:24.30`MindWorXFor once
17:25.03*** join/#sc2mapster Dedo (50b20a10@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.178.10.16)
17:25.04`MindWorXIf i happen to do a succesful kidney transplant, does that make me a surgeon?
17:25.15ProzaicMuzeyep
17:25.19`MindWorXNice
17:25.44DedoA degree makes you a surgeon
17:25.47Dedoa diploma
17:25.54monoframea diploma does not
17:25.56ProzaicMuzeA diploma is a worthless piece of paper.
17:25.59monoframegive you skills
17:26.05AshamedYEAH
17:26.06DedoA successful kidney transplant makes you a dude who successfuly proceeded a surgery
17:26.18Ashamedwhich = surgeon?
17:26.22Dedosurgeon is a title
17:26.26Lazbrothinks he's going to wait until popularity sort is behind us and THEN finish up his map
17:26.27Dedogiven by a crappy paper
17:26.37*** join/#sc2mapster RedWraith (80c81da9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.200.29.169)
17:26.39`MindWorXDedo, why are you commenting on an argument you have no idea why i made? :P
17:26.39RedWraithThe popularity seems to work this way. 1 "point" is equal to one unique player the last hour. This means you have to have a big friend list to bump your popularity.
17:26.45RedWraithBLIZZARD IS LISTENING TO ME ;d
17:26.48RedWraith;D
17:26.49Dedocus im bored
17:26.54`MindWorXThat's fair
17:26.57Dedoim getting sc2 tomorrow
17:27.00Dedo:(
17:27.01Dedofeel for me
17:27.05`MindWorXI have it now
17:27.08`MindWorXAND I DONT EVEN PLAY IT
17:27.08depthsofchaosthats why i cant bump my fucking map
17:27.09`MindWorXWHOA
17:27.10`MindWorXCRAZY
17:27.13`MindWorXUNREAL!
17:27.14depthsofchaospiece of shit blizzard
17:27.15monoframeDedo, I don't get SC2 until I get it
17:27.17monoframefeel for me
17:27.22Ashamedme too
17:27.26Dedowhen do you get it?
17:27.32monoframewhen I feel like it
17:27.45Dedoso you prob dont want it as much as me
17:27.54DedoI really really want it
17:27.55slightlyrandomdamn skippy
17:28.00monoframeI have been waiting quite some time, so now it's pretty much "meh can pass it for some months"
17:28.00Dedobut its not so easy to get it quickly where i  am
17:28.12slightlyrandomdownload that sucker
17:28.13monoframeI would only pick up sc2 for the editor S:
17:28.13Lazbro[19:25]<depthsofchaos>thats why i cant bump my fucking map --- yeah
17:28.29Lazbrookay, this technical issue is behind us, now the popularity issue :(
17:28.58depthsofchaosso now the lame td maps will remain firts forever yay
17:29.00depthsofchaosbliz thx
17:29.02Ashamedme too mono
17:29.03Ashamedlol
17:29.09DedoHey question: I'm getting boxed copy of sc2 tomorrow (i hope) if I download and install sc2 from internet, will it save me the install from the disc?
17:29.12Ashamed6 months = good date i think
17:29.13RedWraithdepthsofchaos, we should form an 'sc2mapster bump group' that bumps everybody's maps >_>
17:29.16Ashamedthen we will have custom games
17:29.19Ashamedand everything
17:29.21ProzaicMuzesorta
17:29.25ProzaicMuzeunless you encounter problems
17:29.28ProzaicMuzelike key not accepted
17:29.29Ashamedi also dont have a really good computer.. so i need to build that too
17:29.32depthsofchaoswell we need at least 50 people
17:29.33ProzaicMuzepatcher not downloading th epatch
17:29.36ProzaicMuzegame not recognizing you
17:29.37ProzaicMuzeetc
17:29.37depthsofchaosbut id join
17:29.45Dedohow long does installing take?
17:29.46RedWraithdepthsofchaos, it's not as hard as you'd think
17:29.50*** join/#sc2mapster deathnight114 (~chatzilla@c-24-19-236-254.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
17:29.53*** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~tyrannica@ip72-201-114-36.ph.ph.cox.net)
17:29.58RedWraithif no one does it before me, I'll make such a group perhaps tonight
17:30.10RedWraithIt is of great interest to me and my future as a map developer.
17:30.14depthsofchaoscool but make an eu section too :p
17:30.26RedWraithoh right
17:30.29RedWraithyou're EU
17:30.30AsaPhelpsare you us red
17:30.30Dedolike 1 hour? 2 hours? installing isnt that long is it?
17:30.33depthsofchaosyep :((
17:30.34RedWraithYes.
17:30.39AsaPhelpsinstall took me like 10 minutes
17:30.42`MindWorXAre you seriously considering if it's worth making a map if you can't abuse the popularity system?
17:30.45`MindWorXChrist
17:30.47Dedokul
17:30.47RedWraithAlso necessary to do hosting on multiple servers anyway
17:30.50devileskim downloading the game right now
17:30.59devileski have the disk but i dont wanna use it
17:31.02Lazbro`MindWorX: yes I'm considering if it's worth making a map if nobody plays it
17:31.10Lazbroanswer so far: no
17:31.11`MindWorXB.net 2.0 has a bright future if everyone is just going to exploit it before it's even gotten started
17:31.14devileskwait if i
17:31.15Ashamedso whats up with the pop system?
17:31.25devileskif i install the game will i need to use the cd to play it everytime?
17:31.31Lazbrok, let's not exploit it and just publish our maps and NOBODY WILL PLAY THEM WHOO
17:31.34RedWraithMindworx, getting 5-10 people to bump a couple of maps isn't exploitation
17:31.36RedWraithit's cooperation
17:31.38`MindWorXWell Lazbro, you can be sure that i'll report anything you do to artificially boost your map popularity
17:31.45devileskif i install from the cd will i need to have the cd in the drive to play it?
17:31.46`MindWorXIt's exploting
17:31.47*** join/#sc2mapster got_Ammo (~got_Ammo@cpe-76-93-78-184.socal.res.rr.com)
17:31.54RedWraithnot if we
17:31.56`MindWorXAnd the same goes for any maps you make RedWraith
17:31.57depthsofchaosplus it refreshes the map cycle
17:31.57RedWraithactually play them
17:31.59RedWraith:)
17:32.10Ashamed.. how does the pop system work?
17:32.12deathnight114who's bought scII?
17:32.13devileskwho has a hard copy of the game
17:32.15depthsofchaosthis way 10 maps will remain top forever :o
17:32.17Ashamedyou can bump them up really fast?
17:32.18deathnight114I do!
17:32.20LordAbysswe arguing about the popo system already?
17:32.20devileskif i install from the cd will i need to have the cd in the drive to play it?
17:32.23deathnight114@ Devilesk
17:32.26deathnight114I'm not sure yet
17:32.28deathnight114i'm still installing
17:32.30`MindWorXdevilesk, No
17:32.31deathnight114I doubt it
17:32.42deathnight114They wouldn't do that
17:32.43deathnight114yeah
17:32.48depthsofchaosso no one from eu to at least test my map ?:o
17:32.50deathnight114you dont need to have the disk in
17:32.53`MindWorXThere's no point in CD requirement when you can't play it without an account anyways
17:32.53Lazbro[19:30]<`MindWorX>Well Lazbro, you can be sure that i'll report anything you do to artificially boost your map popularity --- ok fine, I'll just publish it. And have 0 games played. GG.
17:32.58Lazbrodepthsofchaos: I'm up
17:33.07depthsofchaosyour id?
17:33.11`MindWorXPfft, how about making a map worth playing then?
17:33.25`MindWorXInstead of making a crap map, and hoping people will play it cause you exploit the system?
17:33.34Lazbro[19:31]<`MindWorX>Pfft, how about making a map worth playing then? --- it doesn't matter if it's good when it's NEWLY ADDED ON PAGE 26 IDIOT
17:33.42depthsofchaosmindworx shh youre telling stupid things now
17:33.48`MindWorX*sigh*
17:33.50RedWraithMindworx, have they made a search feature or any kind of categorization yet?
17:33.53Lazbrono
17:33.57RedWraithexactly
17:34.04`MindWorXWell, feel free to exploit the system, i'll do anything i can to counter your actions
17:34.10Lazbrodo you have a map?
17:34.20RedWraithI don't even have a map to publish atm
17:34.26AshamedIf you create a game and leave it bumps it up?
17:34.27depthsofchaosi make a new map i get put on page 60 no matter how awesome my map is it will never be popular
17:34.28*** join/#sc2mapster C-H (180ad540@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.10.213.64)
17:34.32RedWraithI just want to form a group of people who play new maps with 0 players :P
17:34.33Lazbrois tempted to sit in the lobby for an hour so nobody can play, then watch how mindworx gets back up from 0 popularity
17:34.51depthsofchaosLazbro whats your name on bnet?
17:34.57Ashamedyou gotta show it off
17:35.03LazbroBrotherLaz... sec, I'll get the id
17:35.09AsaPhelpswe should make a really bad map and bump it
17:35.16Ashamedlike you need to tell people about your map spacifily now
17:35.17RedWraithlol asaphelps
17:35.19Ashamedinstead of them seeing it
17:35.47Lazbro417
17:35.54LazbroAshamed: still, they can't even find it
17:35.55Ashamedspecifically*
17:35.57RedWraithmindworx, I understand being against bumping maps continuously, i.e. if it never gets popular
17:36.05Ashamedthere will be a wway
17:36.06Lazbroand that's NOW, imagine two months from now
17:36.10RedWraithbut I don't understand being against giving maps an initial bump so people will actually see it
17:36.26`MindWorXRight, and who's going to uphold your imaginary line?
17:36.36KcquiporWTB Battlecraft EU !!!
17:36.38Ashamedlazbro they are not going to put in a system that does not work
17:36.43Lazbromind: in two weeks there'll be 20 pages
17:36.43RedWraithHow can you know if a map is well-recieved if no one ever sees it due to a hundred 'BGH FFA' maps in your way?
17:36.47`MindWorXOnce people begin exploiting, people will keep exploiting, it's simple
17:36.47Lazbroany new map you add is on page 21
17:36.54Lazbronobody is going to look for maps on page 21
17:36.58Ashamedso you tell them
17:36.58Lazbroso your new map will NEVER be played
17:37.00Ashamedi made this map
17:37.01Ashamedcheck it out
17:37.08Ashamedpost it on sc2 mapsters
17:37.16RedWraithMindworx, the difference is bots
17:37.16LazbroAshamed: great, how long do you sit in a lobby?
17:37.18Lazbro10 minutes?
17:37.21RedWraithif players use bots to explot
17:37.23AshamedIts the same way as making a map played on sc or warcraft
17:37.28Ashamedif you dont have actual people creating it
17:37.31Lazbrohow many games do you need to bump a map to the front pages?
17:37.40Lazbrotens
17:37.42depthsofchaos500 XD
17:37.42Ashamedthen its not going to become popular.. anyone can make 1 game and have people join it
17:37.52Ashamedits if they are going to recreate it after the map that counts
17:37.57`MindWorXAll your arguments are painted clearly by the fact that you can't handle competition.
17:38.12Lazbroyou're an idiot
17:38.12depthsofchaosthey wont recreate after something they dont see
17:38.15`MindWorXIf you want you map played, how about getting it hosted on a site, like gee, SC2Mapster
17:38.19Lazbrocompetition = FREE MARKET
17:38.20depthsofchaosidiot people just wtahc page 1 and play those games
17:38.22AshamedIf they know waht it is they would
17:38.30Lazbronot a de facto monopoly by the first uploaded maps
17:38.30`MindWorXOnce people know it, know it's there, they'll find it and play it
17:38.38depthsofchaoshow will they know it
17:38.41`MindWorXYou can even get frontpage if you don't quit before finishing
17:38.43`MindWorXIt's funny
17:38.45AshamedIts the same thing with war3
17:38.48depthsofchaoshow will they know it
17:38.50Ashamedonce people know what your map is
17:38.50LazbroMind: bottom of page 3 is atm 26 games played/hour
17:38.52Ashamedthey will recreate it
17:38.56Lazbrothat's over a hundred people in ONE HOUR
17:39.30`MindWorXI have a project, i've worked on for like... 3 months tops, and i've been frontpage 2 times already
17:39.30Ashamedit doens't matter you need to promote your map... in either system
17:39.30Lazbrohow many people are there even in this chan?
17:39.30depthsofchaosi pmed you Laz
17:39.30Lazbroyou TRY and get a hundred people together just to get STARTED
17:39.30LazbroIM
17:39.30LazbroPOS
17:39.30LazbroSI
17:39.30LazbroBLE
17:39.30`MindWorX~spam
17:39.38purlrumour has it, spam is a preferred environment.  SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) and razor.
17:39.55depthsofchaosMindworx you were frontpage cause you uploaded early
17:40.01`MindWorXNo
17:40.02depthsofchaosnothing to do with your map quality
17:40.07Ashamedlazbro but my question is what is the difference from war3.. you need to have 100 people "Actually" recreate your map before anyone else will start making it.
17:40.08`MindWorXI'm getting frontpage because what i'm doing is awesome
17:40.17`MindWorXIt has NOTHING to do with when the fuck i uploaded
17:40.20depthsofchaosa map doesnt just come up from 1 play per hour to 500
17:40.26`MindWorXDon't you try and discredit my work you little twat
17:40.28ProzaicMuzeMind, yes it does
17:40.38ProzaicMuzeAnd your work sucks
17:40.40ProzaicMuzeHorribly
17:40.45LazbroAshamed: the difference is that in war3 you open a lobby and people join
17:40.50depthsofchaosoh uh rofl this idiot is geting personal
17:40.54`MindWorXWelcome to permanent ignore depthsofchaos
17:40.59`MindWorXFucktard
17:41.01depthsofchaosthank god
17:41.08Lazbrofun fact: just scroll back to where maps have 1 game/hour
17:41.11Lazbroit's QUITE far back
17:41.16ProzaicMuzeMind, if you're getting upset over idle chat YOU are the fucktard
17:41.23`MindWorXDpm
17:41.24Lazbrodepthsofchaos: waiting for you to do something in the game
17:41.27depthsofchaosignore everibody who doesnt agree with your stupid elitist views
17:41.28`MindWorXDon't push me ProzaicMuze
17:41.30ProzaicMuzeI'm just randomly reading through all Imissed and it's kinda lookin' liek you're freakin' out over nothing
17:41.34ProzaicMuzeI'll push whomever I want
17:41.36ProzaicMuzeyou're bein' silly
17:41.39LordAbysspokes mind
17:41.40ProzaicMuzeYou're noormally not
17:41.45ProzaicMuzeSo stop being silly
17:42.09ProzaicMuzeIt's not like you can really threaten me or tell me something so horribly I'll regret telling you to stop being silly.
17:42.24Ashamedyah mind you can relax lol
17:42.27Ashamedlets not fight about it
17:42.30Ashamedto each their own -.-
17:42.44Ashamedbut i don't see how this system is any differnt.. just a differnt way to look at it
17:42.59`MindWorXNoone discredits my work without knowing jack shit about what i do. That's where I draw the line
17:43.14ProzaicMuzeMind, I'll discredit your map just because it's a Friday or because I'm bored
17:43.14`MindWorXPeople need to think about what the fuck they say, instead of blabbing on about shit they know nothing about
17:43.30Ashamedthat first lobby of people may be harder to get now.. but you still need to make a map good enough that people will recreate.. and if you have the qaulity it will just be a matter of time trust me
17:43.30ProzaicMuzeIf you're going to take what people say personally, especially over the internet, you should just turn your computer off now.
17:43.57LordAbyssand make sure you don't make your youtube videos open comment
17:44.02ubdeadhaai
17:44.02LordAbyssthat is asking for a beating
17:44.10Ashamedlol
17:44.15ProzaicMuzeAnd if you're going to get hostile, I'm gonna get in your face because you're just being stupid now.  This is a fun place to be, stop filling it with real troll rage as opposed to banter.
17:44.17AshamedTHIS FUCKEN SUCKS** spammed
17:44.30AsaPhelps~8ball Can't we all just get along?
17:44.31purlPlease ask again.
17:44.34ProzaicMuzelol
17:44.47AsaPhelps~8ball Can we not just all get along?
17:44.48purlUnsure.
17:44.50ProzaicMuze~8ball is mine the biggest of them all?
17:44.51purlI'm sure of it.
17:44.51depthsofchaosno one discredited mindworks work lol he just cant understand what he reads
17:44.53ProzaicMuze>:D
17:44.59Ashamedlol
17:45.09Lazbro[19:42]<Ashamed>that first lobby of people may be harder to get now.. but you still need to make a map good enough that people will recreate.. and if you have the qaulity it will just be a matter of time trust me ------ wait, this first lobby will go farther and farther down
17:45.26Ashamedlazbro YOU need to make peopl ecreate it
17:45.32Ashamedonce people see the map it wont keep going down
17:45.36Ashamedbecause others will start recreating it
17:45.42Lazbroall I CAN do is post it here, post it on sc2mapster and spam it on the blizzard forum
17:45.44Lazbrobut
17:45.48Lazbrothat means you get like 3 games
17:45.51Ashamedyou can get your freinds to play it
17:45.53LordAbyssI found the solution!!!! Kick Blizzard in the balls and make them fix it!
17:46.00Lazbroyes, I have so many SC2 playing friends
17:46.02Lazbroand even then
17:46.04Ashamedand the people in that game lazbro are like wow this is great game
17:46.07Ashamedi am going to remake it
17:46.07monoframebetter yet, kick kotick's
17:46.10Lazbrothat'd bump it up to 4 or even 5 games
17:46.13Ashamedand then the people in the people game think the same thing
17:46.21Ashamedand then the people in the people in the peoples game think the same thing
17:46.34Ashamedevery map recreate you are going to have 4+ more people to impress
17:46.38Lazbroactually those people will remake it
17:46.42Lazbrobut nobody NEW will join
17:46.45Lazbrobecause it's that far back
17:46.49Ashamedoh
17:46.49LazbroI'm not saying it's impossible
17:46.52Ashamedthat kinda makes snese
17:46.54monoframeinvite friends?
17:46.58Ashamedno i didn't think of it like that
17:46.58Lazbrosomeone can do a massive spam campaign or have 5000 friends
17:47.00ProzaicMuzePersonally I think worrying about popularity is silly.
17:47.02ProzaicMuzeJust make your maps
17:47.09Lazbrobut that's probably not the BEST map
17:47.12ProzaicMuzeThen when the system is fixed, you'll have maps to toss out there.
17:47.16LazbroProzaicMuze: waste of time if nobody plays it
17:47.20ProzaicMuzeNot really
17:47.21Lazbroand WHEN and HOW will they fix it
17:47.24ProzaicMuzeAnd that's a horrible mentality to have
17:47.29Lazbromaybe in 2 years
17:47.31ProzaicMuzeI don't make a map so that OTHEr people will play it
17:47.36Lazbromaybe they'll fix it by adding a search and nothing else
17:47.37ProzaicMuze<PROTECTED>
17:47.37Ashamedi bet they will have current create maps for a section
17:47.46LazbroProzaicMuze: single player or multiplayer?
17:47.47devileskif no one plays it then the map is bad
17:47.51ProzaicMuzeEither way
17:47.54slightlyrandomThank you ProzaicMuze, I'm with you
17:48.10ProzaicMuzeI host my map, I invite my friends to play the map with me, and I'm happy
17:48.11Lazbrodevilesk: open the ustom game list, go to page 30, you'll find games nobody plays. Are they all bad?
17:48.18ProzaicMuzeI don't really care of other people I'll never play a game with play my map
17:48.18LazbroProzaicMuze: it's a 12 player map
17:48.19devileskyes
17:48.20slightlyrandomI have fun making maps; if I didn't, I wouldn't make them
17:48.22Ashamedi bet there will be differnt view types sections
17:48.24ProzaicMuzeEspecially if I'm not playing it with them.
17:48.26Ashamedlike view by most pop
17:48.28Lazbrofun isn't enough
17:48.30LazbroI'm commercial
17:48.33ProzaicMuzeIt doesn't affect my ability to enjoy the map
17:48.35Ashamedview by type
17:48.40Ashamedview by in lobby
17:48.41Lazbrono opportunity for success without massive spamming = no deal
17:48.43slightlyrandomI don't care about you, Lazbro
17:48.48ProzaicMuzeAnd I have 40+ friends on my friends list from Mapster alone.  Gettin' 12 people for a map isnt' hard.
17:48.56Lazbroslightlyrandom: don't worry, it's mutual
17:49.02depthsofchaosLazbro quality maps bump themselves :PPPPP
17:49.06LordAbysshow about we add me this time proz
17:49.07LordAbysshaha
17:49.09LordAbysswhen i get the game
17:49.10slightlyrandomThen stop forcing your opinion on the channel, eh?
17:49.14Ashamedyeah and if they are other map creators.. we are always down to test
17:49.15devileskqtf depthsofchaos
17:49.19ProzaicMuzePsh, you're already on my friends list I thought
17:49.20devileskqft
17:49.24ProzaicMuzeWeren't you stalkin' me? rofl
17:49.25Ashamed... thats all i play sc2 for.. To play my maps! and to test my fellow friends maps!
17:49.29depthsofchaosi was being sarcastic devil
17:49.33Lazbrodepthsofchaos: as I said, your friends will get you like 5 games/hour but that's STILL way down the list, and no NEW people will join anyway
17:49.36devileskwell you're right
17:49.38LordAbyssi didn't save your ID number
17:49.43ProzaicMuzeOh well
17:49.56devileskanyway just quit mapping if you feel that way
17:49.58devilesk;o
17:50.02Ashamedlol
17:50.08Ashamedthey will have a catigory section just watch
17:50.14Lazbrohttp://modsbylaz.hugelaser.com --- looks like I did lol
17:50.19Ashamedyou will be able to view the map list in differnt  cats
17:50.25depthsofchaoswhy would i quit? im not maping to please 1000 casuals :p
17:50.31devilesknot you
17:50.32devilesklazbro
17:50.44ProzaicMuzePsh
17:50.50ProzaicMuzeSome of you guys are so touchy
17:50.55depthsofchaosdont think people map for the fame in the firts place
17:51.14Lazbroare you seriously saying most people just make maps to play them with friends?
17:51.16LazbroROFL
17:51.20depthsofchaosim not
17:51.28Ashamedover all i am pretty sure it will be the same as every blizzard game.. qaulity = it will be played.. Just the promotion around your map might change
17:51.32Lazbrowhy waste all that time to make a map just to play it with friends
17:51.33AsaPhelpspeople want to be the next icefrog
17:51.33*** join/#sc2mapster djaenisc (80c81da9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.200.29.169)
17:51.45ProzaicMuzeI'm pretty sure most people start making a map because they say "woah! That'd be a crazy fun map to play!"
17:51.47LazbroAshamed: we can test it: post your map and show us a page 1 screenshot
17:51.50ProzaicMuzeand THEN they start considering the "fame" part.
17:51.54depthsofchaosim saying i make maps for fun then im happy if they get played a lot
17:51.55djaeniscanyway, using bots/scripts to bump = bad; hand-bumping = fine
17:51.59ProzaicMuzeIf they think fame first, the map prolly sucks.
17:51.59djaeniscshit shit
17:52.00djaeniscwrong name
17:52.01Ashamedi dont even have the game -.- yet
17:52.04devileskno one likes a whiny mapmaker that overrates his own work and QQ's because no one wants to play it
17:52.30*** join/#sc2mapster RedWraith (80c81da9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.200.29.169)
17:52.30`MindWorX/agreed
17:52.33depthsofchaosdevilesk did you ever make maps?
17:52.33RedWraithsorry about that
17:52.37RedWraith>_>
17:52.37ProzaicMuzeand Lazbro, are you saying yoru friends aren't worth making a map for to play with?
17:52.44devilesklol. did i ever make maps
17:52.46LazbroI have 1 friend who plays SC2.
17:52.48ProzaicMuzeSounds to me like you don't really value your friends rofl
17:52.51Ashamedi must agree with depth i make my maps for me only.. and if people like it.. Then I am excited about that too.
17:53.03Lazbromiraculously not all my friends are geeks
17:53.03ProzaicMuzeWell that's where we differ
17:53.11AsaPhelpsi made a map but i don't think many people liked it
17:53.15ProzaicMuzeI consider everyone in this channel my "friend" when it comes to SC2
17:53.15Lazbrodevilesk: if the list was suddenly turned the other way round, would it settle back to its current order?
17:53.19Lazbro<3
17:53.20ProzaicMuzeThus I make maps to play with you guys
17:53.26depthsofchaosdevilesk then you should know that the current system doesnt revard qulity
17:53.28depthsofchaosat all
17:53.32AsaPhelpsare you us muze?
17:53.44depthsofchaosreward quality *
17:53.44devileskdepth have you played starcraft?
17:53.46ProzaicMuzeus as in U.S.? or you as a group?
17:53.47AsaPhelpsUS that is
17:53.50ProzaicMuzelol
17:53.51ProzaicMuzeyes
17:53.55Lazbrowell I'm looking at the Euro list and it seems Circle TD is currently the best map.
17:54.04AsaPhelpspopularity doesn't mean best
17:54.05depthsofchaoswhats starcraft
17:54.15Lazbroto half of the people on this channel it means best yes
17:54.20devileski made good starcraft maps
17:54.20devileskk
17:54.26Lazbroso devilesk, Mind: Circle TD is the best map
17:54.32RedWraithI make maps that pose interesting problems to me.
17:54.33`MindWorXDotA is a perfect example of how Popularity != Best
17:54.34LazbroI wonder what amazing eatures it has
17:54.38depthsofchaosok sry dont know your name just wnated to know if you made maps
17:54.48ekcolnovkolIT'S HERE
17:54.50RedWraithMindworx, I think popularity is the best sort
17:54.51ekcolnovkolMY COPY IS HERE
17:54.54RedWraithassuming you have filters
17:54.55ekcolnovkolMASDFLKAJSF COPY IS HERE
17:55.03Lazbromaybe it's a TD with WASD and your builder is a jet you have to control with a joystick
17:55.08devileskit's a POPULARITY list
17:55.11Lazbrothat's how good Circle TD is
17:55.12Lazbroisn't it?
17:55.14devilesksince when did popularity ever imply quality
17:55.14Lazbro:p
17:55.17devilesksince when did popularity ever imply quality
17:55.18`MindWorXWell, sure RedWraith, Popularity is a nice system for getting an initial impression
17:55.19depthsofchaosMindworks is talking against himself right now funny
17:55.21Lazbrosince you said something like that
17:55.25devilesksince when did popularity ever imply quality
17:55.30devilesknever
17:55.32Lazbroexactly
17:55.33ProzaicMuzeI just think they need more sorting options
17:55.33Lazbroso
17:55.37`MindWorXBut ofc, the system isn't working too well until they get filters added
17:55.37ProzaicMuzeThen I wouldnt' care abotu popularity at all
17:55.42Lazbrowhen an unpopular map sits on page 16 with 5 games/hour
17:55.43AshamedI know when i am looking at list i look at most viewed not best rated.. when i am trying to find the best
17:55.45Lazbrothen what?
17:55.45`MindWorXHowever, there's plenty of ways to promote what you do
17:55.47ProzaicMuzeI want to be able to sort by type, by release date and by rating
17:55.53`MindWorXDoesn't have to be using battle.net
17:55.58devileskbased on 12 years of starcraft you should know already that the maps the bnet public play are SHIT
17:55.59ProzaicMuzePopularity should only be used to measure how many people are CURRENTLY playing it.
17:56.05`MindWorXI mean, it's hardly out of beta yet, there's room for plenty of improvement
17:56.11RedWraithalso, I'd like the ability to name my game and when someone clicks on a game, it brings up a list of currently active rooms
17:56.14depthsofchaosdevilesk but they dont have to be
17:56.15devileskso if you haven't already dealt with that fact then you shouldn't be mapping
17:56.19depthsofchaoswhy would we agree to this
17:56.20Saerisekco get your damn map up =P
17:56.20*** join/#sc2mapster Jum-Jum (Jum-Jum@h85-8-27-245.dynamic.se.alltele.net)
17:56.32`MindWorXAll the Wc3 gamers i know find good maps by looking at sites like wc3c and thw
17:56.37ekcolnovkolTAKES AN HOUR TO INSTALL HARBL
17:56.38Saerisgotta knock red circle and nexus wars off their high horses
17:56.41deathnight114if anyone wants to add me on SCII, i'm deawthnight.468
17:56.42devileskyou're fighting the majority then
17:56.43`MindWorXNot by playing what's hosted on b.net
17:56.49deathnight114and it took me 20 mins @ Saeris
17:57.11depthsofchaosright now you can only play non td maps if you team up with friends
17:57.15depthsofchaosi just wnat this to change
17:57.22Saeriswell, no
17:57.29Saerismy map is #7 on the list
17:57.30devileskjust host whatever maps youw ant to play
17:57.34Saerisand it isn't td
17:57.34Saeris=P
17:57.39devileskand people will join
17:57.40depthsofchaosi host, no one comes
17:57.47Ashamedmy idea to deploy my maps.. : ProzaicMuze I will test your maps if you test mine!
17:57.48devileskcan you only join games through the popularity list?
17:57.51Ashamedthats what i will do -.-
17:57.53ProzaicMuzelol
17:57.54devileskcan you only join games through the popularity list?
17:57.56Ashamedhopfully it works
17:57.57depthsofchaosi went away from home for 2 hours left my lobby here
17:58.00depthsofchaosno player joined
17:58.06RedWraithdevilesk, that's not true. It just takes a few weeks for the system to 'settle down' and pick some things it likes, then it's a steady stream of improvement
17:58.20devileski don't even know how the list works
17:58.26RedWraitheither way, I'm going to make a group for playing new maps
17:58.27RedWraith>_>
17:58.30depthsofchaosyou can search by name
17:58.31devileskjust basing it on
17:58.33devileskbattle.net
17:58.35depthsofchaosbut none will search the same
17:58.37*** join/#sc2mapster ekcolnvkol (ekcolnovko@pool-173-68-43-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
17:58.37devileskand starcraft
17:59.17RedWraithit'll be fine
17:59.18RedWraithimo
17:59.20Lazbro[19:57]<RedWraith>either way, I'm going to make a group for playing new maps --- mind would consider this cheating
17:59.25Saerisjust give it a week or so and blizzard will submit to people crying over the popularity system
17:59.37depthsofchaoswhy would they?
17:59.42Lazbro[19:56]<depthsofchaos>no player joined --- according to mind this is YOUR fault because the map is BAD
17:59.43depthsofchaosthey didnt do it in the beta
17:59.44Lazbroso there
17:59.52devileskthere's millions of people that are going to be playing the game
17:59.54Ashamed... and i dunno about anyone else I know i will be much more excited if i just woke up and saw my map on the top of the list.. then me knowing i made it that way
18:00.06depthsofchaosye my map is bad but they cant even determine it since they never played it :P
18:00.08`MindWorXI wouldn't consider it cheating if they were actually playing it. What he first described was finding a group of people to get unique joins
18:00.18Hatilf noob to play placement :P
18:00.24devileskcertain maps are going to get popular in the same way certain videos become viral
18:00.43Hatior no ... i play campaign i guess
18:00.45depthsofchaosin the current system, no :o
18:00.47devileskeither that or you have some large group of people heavily invested in bumping up the map's popularity
18:01.11devileskmy point is there's a huge amount of maps all trying to enter the system
18:01.14depthsofchaosviral videos have ways to be accessed
18:01.18depthsofchaosyou dont have to scroll 10 pages
18:01.24devileskhow many videos are on youtube
18:01.28depthsofchaosyou sjust check new videos
18:01.31devileskand how many of them actually reach the top
18:01.31depthsofchaosand got keywords
18:01.33depthsofchaosfilters
18:01.36Lazbrobut they're not ranked by popularity
18:01.42devileskhow are they ranked
18:01.50ProzaicMuzesearch engine
18:01.51Lazbroappropriateness
18:01.55depthsofchaostheres not even a new maps section
18:02.04Ashamedthere will be
18:02.10Ashamedblizzard is trying to figure out the best way to do it
18:02.11devileskhow are they ranked?
18:02.16Ashamedthey will see if its not working
18:02.25Lazbroit's NOT like 'you make a vid of a lolcat eating a hamster, so when someone searches for lolcats eating hamsters, they'll find 50000 other vids first because those had more viewers'
18:02.27depthsofchaosgame played per hour by unique player
18:02.31Ashamed... they are no tgoing to just let 10 maps exploit their system
18:02.43LazbroBlizzard doesn't have much time to figure it out
18:02.46Ashamedthey will determine the best way
18:02.53Ashamed... Yes they do they need numbers first
18:02.54depthsofchaosashamed they had 1 month to fix this
18:02.57depthsofchaosthey didnt
18:02.59Ashamedthe game just release
18:02.59devileskis there just a games hosted list that you can look through?
18:03.01HatiHati.183 :)
18:03.12AshamedThey were in beta now they have actual game numbers
18:03.15Lazbromy current medium term plan is to take part in SotIS development :)
18:03.16depthsofchaosdevilesk, no
18:03.29Ashamedgame hosted =a must they will do it
18:03.30devileskalso the game just released
18:03.36Ashamedi will bet someone 10 dollors
18:03.36Lazbrocircle TD = 1.5K games/hour
18:03.38Ashameddollars*
18:03.38Lazbrowow
18:03.40devileskit will take a while before it reaches some equilibrium
18:03.45devileskand obviously TDs are going to be popular
18:03.49devileskbecause it's something people are familiar with
18:03.51depthsofchaosbeta was for testing why didnt they fix :o
18:03.53Lazbroyes because it's filled with pointless melee maps
18:04.07deathnight114terribleterribledamage is the cheat for godmode
18:04.09deathnight114heh
18:04.12Lazbrodepthsofchaos: the current map list corresponds really well with Blizzard's own attitude towards life
18:04.34depthsofchaoshehe tru :o
18:04.35devileskyou gotta think of what the casual sc player's exposure to custom maps is
18:04.35deathnight114seriously?
18:04.42LazbroTHEY're the most popular. THEY succeeded. THEIR market has strong network effects. So obviously they consider this the best way to organise the world.
18:04.46devileskthey probably play the game once in a while and the only kinds of maps they know are tower defenses
18:04.56Fiskerbtw
18:04.57Lazbroand dota
18:05.15devileski don't see how it should be a surprise that circle td is the most popular right now
18:05.15LazbroSotIS has potential
18:05.16Fiskerany of you guys having issues with Battle.net dropping you after 5-10 minutes both in singleplayer and multiplayer?
18:05.29Lazbroit starts out with a large fanbase so it's the ONLY somewhat complicated map that can succeed right now
18:05.43depthsofchaoswell devilesk, there are many ways to fix this, blizzard is just lazy to do it
18:05.56AshamedLazbro.. you gotta look at it this way. Blizzard wont fix shit that doesn't matter ( But if it will effect their game, and money. Then it will be fixed ) If there is only 10 maps that stay on the top forever and no one ever plays anything else.. They will fix it
18:05.58depthsofchaosthey could implement blizzard featured maps etc
18:06.02`MindWorXFisker, My game runs perfectly in SP
18:06.06`MindWorXDunno about MP
18:06.10devileskyou're thinking too much like a mapmaker who only cares about quality
18:06.13LazbroAshamed: you missed the part where people quit because of this
18:06.24Lazbrodevilesk: looking at b.net right now NOBODY cares about quality
18:06.25Ashamed... thats why it will be fixed
18:06.37devileskgeneral gamers don't care about quailty
18:06.43Lazbro[20:04]<depthsofchaos>they could implement blizzard featured maps etc --- they had a website for this once in War3 days
18:06.44Ashamedonly map makers
18:06.44devileskthey couldn't appreciate the difference between a good map
18:06.46devileskand a poorly made map
18:06.47Ashamedgamers only want fun
18:06.49Lazbrofirst featured map...
18:06.51Lazbro<drumroll>
18:06.53devileskthat's just the way it always is
18:06.54LazbroDOTA
18:06.56Lazbroduh
18:06.57*** join/#sc2mapster davidcramer (~dcramer@75-101-56-240.dsl.static.sonic.net)
18:07.10depthsofchaoswell general gamers wont be here 1 year from now
18:07.15depthsofchaosand wont buy the expansions
18:07.23Ashamedthey will depth
18:07.25Ashamed-.-
18:07.28*** join/#sc2mapster Glynn (45b31f51@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.179.31.81)
18:07.35depthsofchaoswell some will but there wil be smaler amount
18:07.36devileskthen you have massive amounts of 13 year olds
18:07.56Vail|IsHereall... i.... can.... say.... is .... DAYUM
18:08.10depthsofchaoswell i hope they wont be stuck with Td maps for a year
18:08.13monoframeRRUH
18:08.27depthsofchaosor im gona make netstrom td :o
18:08.42Vail|IsHerei got my sixty bucks out of this game already and ive just played two missions
18:08.46monoframeMAKE A MAUL TD
18:08.50monoframeFASTER
18:09.11monoframeBetter yet, make a Maul templet
18:09.13monoframetemplate*
18:09.14monoframe:S
18:09.38monoframeYou way you will secure the further survival of Maul TD genre
18:09.43AsaPhelpsi'm uploading a video from my phone using my neighbor's wireless to save bandwidth
18:09.44monoframethat*
18:09.44monoframeS:
18:09.47AsaPhelpsso win
18:09.47depthsofchaoswould be funny , make a td template map everibody uses on first page
18:10.04depthsofchaosyou evil bastard
18:10.08depthsofchaosgood job
18:10.12monoframeAnyways, where's WinterMaul
18:10.17Fiskerbah `MindWorX
18:10.19Fiskerthis suck
18:10.19monoframe? :|
18:10.22Fiskersucks*
18:10.24Fiskerare you EU or US?
18:10.25`MindWorX:P
18:10.28`MindWorXEU ofc
18:10.39Fiskerweird
18:10.40AsaPhelps~purl US
18:10.41purlit has been said that us is United States (of America), or the first-person plural object pronoun.  Capital of McDonald's
18:10.49devileskthere should be some kind of featured section just to encourage variety
18:10.57devileskso one type of map doesn't dominate the entire system
18:11.00*** join/#sc2mapster Myst_DooM (~Myst@ool-4573ce7e.dyn.optonline.net)
18:11.03ProzaicMuzeThere should be a section that features maps made my me and only me
18:11.08ProzaicMuzeCall it the PMs section
18:11.13ProzaicMuzeFor raging mappers like myself
18:11.25devilesklike custom maps could just turn into TD maps
18:11.37depthsofchaoscustom td
18:11.42devileskthen new players will only see TD maps being played and will think TD maps are the only maps that exist
18:11.51devileskand then that will just become the norm
18:11.51LazbroMindworx: do you have a published map?
18:12.02`MindWorXI don't make maps
18:12.02depthsofchaosand when someone makes a non td map he wil be crucified
18:12.07ProzaicMuze~purl EU
18:12.08purlsomebody said eu was pompous
18:12.08Lazbroso then stfu
18:12.14ProzaicMuzeXp
18:12.20ProzaicMuze~purl Europe
18:12.21purlrumour has it, europe is so much further ahead in terms of government than us
18:12.21`MindWorXYou're a real mature person eh Lazbro? :P
18:12.22Lazbropurl: I call it 'manifest destiny'
18:12.23purlYou call it 'manifest destiny'?
18:12.29Lazbro:)
18:12.34devileskit will become ingraind into the public mindset that TD is the only genre
18:12.40devileskto prevent this you need to educate them early
18:12.45devileskby exposing them to a variety of good maps
18:12.51devileskthe government should do this
18:12.56devileskby funding projects
18:13.09devilesktake control of education
18:13.12depthsofchaos`MindWorX>Don't you try and discredit my work you little twat <- mature person right there
18:13.15Fiskeroh sweet
18:13.18Fiskeri found out what the issue is
18:13.24devileskgovernment funded schools
18:13.29devileskteach kids not to be racist
18:13.34Fiskerif you had the trial copy running before upgrading the game you get disconnected after a few minutes
18:13.35Fisker<3
18:13.35devileskencourage diversity
18:13.44*** join/#sc2mapster Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys)
18:13.53devileskthen when they grow up they'll be tolerant of all types of people
18:13.56devileskfrom all kinds of backgrounds
18:14.11monoframeEven the FPS people?
18:14.14depthsofchaoseven jews ?
18:14.17devileskyes
18:14.20monoframeOH GOSH
18:14.24devileskjewish FPSers
18:14.27monoframeTHE ULTIMATE-TOLERANCE
18:14.32monoframeGod help us
18:14.37`MindWorXAnyone noticed if the retail editor boots up faster?
18:14.44monoframeLuckily he already has, we have AIDS!
18:14.47Vail|IsHereit think it does
18:14.47depthsofchaosi i have a jewish fps player friend :p
18:14.48monoframeYAY!
18:14.53devileskit could be done privately
18:14.58depthsofchaoshes from israel too!!
18:14.59`MindWorXI did upgrade my hardware recently, but i find it hard to believe that caused the speed increase
18:15.00devileskbut you'd need a large organization
18:15.04devileskunited under one cause
18:15.08devileskwith the necessary resources
18:15.35monoframedepth, is he indigenous jew, or just some scammed off westernized version? with zero requisits?
18:15.47*** join/#sc2mapster Bifuu|X (~Bifuu@cpe-071-077-145-012.nc.res.rr.com)
18:15.56depthsofchaoshe lives in israel you can imagine
18:16.04depthsofchaosofc hes orthodox
18:16.05ProzaicMuzeWaaaait. . .
18:16.11ProzaicMuzeencourgae diversity?
18:16.13ProzaicMuzeEff dat!
18:16.17Lazbro[20:13]<`MindWorX>Anyone noticed if the retail editor boots up faster? --- hard to tell, readyboost may make a difference
18:16.19ProzaicMuzeRacism/Descrimination ftw!
18:16.21monoframelives or was captured by isreal military forces and sent into prison of FPSdom?
18:16.25devileskwell then enjoy your TD maps
18:16.26ProzaicMuzeI hate peopel who don't look exactly like me! >:D
18:16.27devileskand only TD maps
18:16.32Lazbroand SotIS
18:16.43depthsofchaoshe joined the military, we havent talked since xD
18:16.48depthsofchaosi guess hes killing palestinians
18:16.52Bifuu|XWhat ii miss
18:16.54Lazbrowhich is actually a very good map, it's just in trouble on the Euro realm because apparently the wrong version is popular :(
18:16.55`MindWorXLazbro, "readyboost"?
18:17.00monoframeOr peeping at lazors
18:17.05Unrea1JUST GOT BACK
18:17.06Lazbrothe stuff that loads your most used programs partially into memory
18:17.07monoframecool lazo, bro
18:17.08Unrea1NUBS ADD ME
18:17.12`MindWorXAh
18:17.17`MindWorXFO REAL?
18:17.19devileskobama should do something
18:17.21devileskhe should start a program
18:17.23Lazbromonoframe: you're a real newbie aren't you?
18:17.25LordAbysshey PM, wtf why isn't your name all over mapsters
18:17.29devileskto make sure we get good map diversity
18:17.31Lazbroyou've never heard 'Laz' in the Blizzard context have you?
18:17.32devileskon battle.net
18:17.34ProzaicMuzelol what you mean?
18:17.40monoframeLazlo?
18:17.42`MindWorXWell, i did get more ram and a bigger cpu, which should be the two main factors for booting up software
18:17.45monoframethat goblin?
18:17.45LordAbyssas teh background
18:17.46monoframe:P
18:17.51LazbroDiablo 1. Archbishop Lazarus. ('Laz' as farmers called him) :p
18:17.53Unrea1ADD Unreal.190 GO
18:17.54ProzaicMuzerofl
18:17.57Unrea1YOU MUST GO NOW
18:18.03LordAbyssi should see your name as the background repeated like 500 times
18:18.18ProzaicMuzeI think they want to avoid anythign that might resemble favortism
18:18.18devileskhttp://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/off-topic/5159-devilesks-signature-avatar-shop/
18:18.25Vail|IsHereooo i found an editor bug!
18:18.27ProzaicMuzepsh, I can make my own signatures
18:18.34ProzaicMuzeAnd they will roxorz
18:18.36Vail|IsHerewell a crash..
18:18.37monoframeMy only online experience with the original Diablo was when some "though guys" trapped me inside butcher's chamber and then beat me to death lol <.<
18:18.37devileskwell that would be like
18:18.38devileskanarchy
18:18.47monoframewasn't nice
18:18.48devileskwho knows what that would lead to
18:19.02devileskit will probably lead to one type of map becoming dominant
18:19.06devileskas they gain power
18:19.08devilesklike gangs
18:19.22devilesksome dictatorship would probably form
18:19.32devileskthen you have all the people living in poverty
18:19.35devileskplaying shitty maps
18:19.45ProzaicMuzeIt's not like they can FORCE me to play crappy maps
18:19.56Ashamedlol
18:19.57devileskyou'll be persecuted
18:19.58monoframeOther then that, I played Diablo up to the hell levels, but couldn't continue with my Warior because of lack of magic skills S:
18:20.06ProzaicMuzeI'm persecuted for much more important reasons
18:20.12devileskyou won't be able to find anyone
18:20.13ProzaicMuzeLike playing chess or being mormon
18:20.17devileskand connect with them
18:20.21Ashamedlol
18:20.25devileskyou'll be drowned out by the mass of poor people
18:20.26Ashamedprozaic your mormon?
18:20.32ProzaicMuzeOnly teh coolest mormon evar!
18:20.41ProzaicMuzeI get TWO planets when I die
18:20.42Ashamedlol
18:20.43monoframegot the moves?
18:20.44LazbroPopularity sort is like... D&D divinity. The more worshippers a deity has, the stronger it is and the more benefits you gain from worshipping it. That's popularity sort for geeks.
18:20.45devileskits like
18:20.47monoframeDO YOU HAVE THE MOVES!?
18:20.51Ashamedi thought mby you were making a funny
18:20.54devileskyou'll be the only one that knows how to read
18:20.57Ashamedbut i think you were being seriouse
18:21.01devileskand you're trying to write a letter to the people
18:21.06devileskbut no one will be able to read it
18:21.07ProzaicMuzelol I'm semi-serious
18:21.07devileskand respond
18:21.14devileskso you'll be left alone with your knowledge
18:21.16devileskunable to share it
18:21.18Ashamedlol
18:21.30ProzaicMuzeI'm Mormon by belief, but I hate going to church in general so some of the  hardcore mormons consider me "inactive" or whatever.
18:21.40ProzaicMuze"Jack" Mormon I think is the term.
18:21.49devileskdon't you have special underwear?
18:21.51monoframeJack "The mormon" Walters
18:21.53depthsofchaosyou gota be kiding :o
18:21.53ProzaicMuzelol
18:21.54monoframeeh?
18:22.02ProzaicMuzeYou mean the fully body suit white garments?
18:22.04devileskyes
18:22.09ProzaicMuzeIndeed, I don't wear them though
18:22.15ProzaicMuzeYou get those when you get married in the temple
18:22.18devileskwhat about electricity
18:22.19ProzaicMuzeSo I figure I'll just never get married ;)
18:22.21devileskhow are you on a computer
18:22.28devileski thought you don't believe in electricity
18:22.30ProzaicMuzeROFL
18:22.37monoframeDress up, take pictures with goat's blood pouring into your open mouth, post on the nets, cause massive lulz
18:22.40*** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@c-76-126-227-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
18:22.43devileskand you live in pennsylvania
18:22.46depthsofchaoshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFZ1jVO3-OE dis iz tru ?:o
18:22.52ProzaicMuzeYes, revert to paganism and claim I'm mormon?
18:23.01devileskdon't you ride around
18:23.02ProzaicMuzeAnd I definitely believe in electricity
18:23.04devileskin horse drawn carriages
18:23.06ProzaicMuzeElse I can't be on this computer
18:23.10ProzaicMuzeTalking to you with my leet computer skillz
18:23.13Ackisanyway to view your SC2 achievements online?
18:23.14*** part/#sc2mapster davidcramer (~dcramer@75-101-56-240.dsl.static.sonic.net)
18:23.18devileskand speak pennsylvania german
18:23.19monoframeseems like superman
18:23.29ProzaicMuzeI think you're thinking of the Amish folks
18:23.32ProzaicMuzeAhmish?
18:23.33devileskand aren't you known for making good furniture
18:24.16devileskoh see
18:24.21devileskyou'll be like the indians on reservations
18:24.22*** join/#sc2mapster Furyhunter (~Furyhunte@cpe-70-112-108-97.austin.res.rr.com)
18:24.25devileskcut off from the rest of the country
18:24.36devileskyou and your maps
18:24.44devileskwith your small group of people
18:24.50ProzaicMuzelmao
18:24.52devileskwhile the rest of the country plays td
18:25.03ProzaicMuzeSo being mormon makes my maps different lol?
18:25.14devileskyou said you wanted to not play the maps other people played
18:25.15ProzaicMuzeSo I can blame that if a map makes sucks?>
18:25.27ProzaicMuze"It's not my fault the map sucks. . .  I'm Mormon!"
18:25.34devileskmormons suck so yea
18:25.38devileskthat's a good excuse
18:25.43ProzaicMuzeHey now :(
18:25.48ProzaicMuzeI'm a cool person Xp
18:25.54devilesksure
18:26.09devileski don't see how the two are mutually exclusive
18:26.19devilesk:O
18:26.21ProzaicMuzeXp
18:26.32ProzaicMuzestops looking into devilesk's missile problem.
18:26.40devileski knew you'd do that
18:26.48ProzaicMuze>:D
18:26.49depthsofchaosi killed millions of children but i like cats!
18:26.56ProzaicMuzelmfao
18:26.57ProzaicMuzepoor cats
18:27.02devileskit's cause you're mormon
18:27.10devileskand mormons aren't helpful and kind people
18:27.14ProzaicMuzelmao
18:27.17ProzaicMuzeThat's rgith
18:27.20devileskthey dont like interacting with nonmormons
18:27.20ProzaicMuzeI hate you and want your planet
18:27.22depthsofchaoswhat i helped the children die
18:27.48*** join/#sc2mapster Unrea1_ (47c56d5d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.197.109.93)
18:28.22*** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@c-76-126-227-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
18:28.54*** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105)
18:28.54*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ
18:29.01onetwoSixen
18:29.07onetwoyou have queued problem too?
18:29.18ProzaicMuzeSixen isn't here
18:29.20onetwoDigital Goods Quantity Unit Price      StarCraft IIร‚ยฎ: Wings of Liberty  1 $59.99     Order Status:   Queued
18:29.34onetwothe digital purchase system was crapping out this morning
18:29.36onetwobut when you got through
18:29.39onetwoyou just get queued
18:29.41onetwoso i cant login
18:29.43onetwoi have it purchased
18:29.47onetwoand im in "queued state"
18:29.48onetwo.
18:30.05ProzaicMuzedid they take your money already?
18:30.06allenmelonYAY
18:30.08*** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (516f48df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.72.223)
18:30.11allenmelonI got sc2 finally!
18:30.14Lazbrograts
18:30.26ProzaicMuze(btw my patcher is still broked onetwo Xp)
18:30.27allenmelonbut, i just finished dling the digital copy
18:30.31wOlfLinGNot many custom maps being played on the EU servers :/
18:30.32Lazbroended up in bronze after being kicked out of two winning games :(
18:30.33allenmelonand i just got the disc copy...
18:30.42*** join/#sc2mapster Mindful` (~Something@c-67-169-116-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
18:30.46allenmelonso should i just delete the download and do the disc install
18:30.47LazbrowOlfLinG: indeed, this may be the popularity trap at work imo
18:30.51Lazbroallen: no
18:30.54allenmelonor just continue with the digital copy
18:30.55Lazbrodownloaded copy is faster
18:31.00allenmelonoh ok
18:31.05allenmelonno difference though right?
18:31.07ProzaicMuzePeople aren't playing UMS due to the campaign most likely
18:31.10Furyhunterno difference
18:31.14ProzaicMuzegive it a week before you start complaining rofl
18:31.15Furyhunterbut installing from hard drive is faster
18:31.24allenmelonthe box is so cool
18:31.25ProzaicMuzeThen unleash a storm of complaints upon blizzard all at once
18:31.54allenmelonbest game box ever
18:32.08HatiEUs are campaigning :o
18:32.19Hati"Should kids be allowed to use stimpacks?"
18:32.48Jum-Jumtheres countries who havent got the game yet? :S
18:33.26Hatishouldn't be the case
18:33.27Hatior?
18:33.45*** join/#sc2mapster onetwo_ (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105)
18:33.45*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo_] by ChanServ
18:33.51onetwo_crashed comp haha
18:33.53onetwo_whatd i miss
18:34.00Lazbronothing :p
18:34.02onetwo_wtf my original name's purple
18:34.23Hati"Should kids be allowed to use stimpacks?"
18:34.25Hatiyou missed
18:34.41Hatihttp://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/5253-release-usernames/#p2
18:35.05onetwo_cant exactly do that when my digital copy
18:35.08onetwo_is "queued"
18:35.09onetwo_...
18:35.13onetwo_atleast making us wait till 10am
18:35.20onetwo_shouldnt have these issues
18:35.26onetwo_youd think after WoW launch
18:35.32onetwo_theyd be fine
18:35.35onetwo_by now
18:35.39Lazbrozzz sc2 zzz where's our D3?
18:36.11onetwo"Since the current popularity system isn't that great, please PM me the name of the maps you published, I will make a news with the mapster maps so hopefully we can bump them up! If you want to get user feedbacks, add your mapster project url in the description. People will be able to leave comments!"
18:36.13onetwoi love vjeux
18:36.17onetwofor just saying it outright on his site
18:37.03allenmelonwow, 4 guest passes
18:37.26LordAbyssif someone tosses me a guest pass will my accound carrier over?
18:37.28LordAbysswhen i get teh game
18:37.34LordAbyssaccount
18:37.45allenmelonhey, it says i need windows xp sp3
18:37.47allenmelonbut i have sp2
18:37.55allenmelondo i have to get sp3 to play?
18:38.16devileskyea the system sucks. i don't see why they didn't make an actual list of games being hosted. the way it is now is such an indirect way of getting into games and doesn't even show what maps might be hosted
18:38.38Ashameddev you jumped on the other band wagon already?
18:38.43devileski was never on
18:38.45devileskany bandwagon
18:38.47Ashamedlol
18:38.55Ashamedi could of swear you waz
18:38.59devileskno
18:39.14Ashamedthey will end up changing it
18:39.18Ashamedonce they find out it does not work
18:39.22allenmeloncan i play sc2 with sp2?
18:39.25Ashamedsomething like this will actually affect sales to their game
18:39.26devileski'd rather wade through a giant list of games being hosted
18:39.31devileskthan look at some stupid popularity system
18:39.38devileskthat dictates to me what games i can join
18:39.48Ashamedyeah they should of had both
18:39.51devileskyea
18:39.56Ashamedbecuase pop = smart
18:40.15Ashamedbut for sure there needs to be a way to become popular
18:40.21Lazbro[20:38]<Ashamed>something like this will actually affect sales to their game ---- nah, on every other forum people are like WOW AMAZING EDITOR YOU CAN MAKE FPS
18:40.25allenmelonhow long does it usually take to install the digital dl?
18:40.43Lazbro17.3 minutes.
18:40.59devileski'm sure it would have been easier for them to just make a big list of what's being hosted right now
18:41.05devileskthan to come up with a stupid popularity system
18:41.16casperballenmelon: 2-3 mins
18:41.26onetwoyou know what, it probably sounded good
18:41.28allenmelonreally?
18:41.29onetwobecause war3 was 9/10 DOTA
18:41.41onetwobut now we have 10/10 "dota"s
18:41.43Lazbroit's called a filter, try it
18:41.45onetwomaps that cant be budged
18:42.00devileskthey shouldn't limited it to just one way of finding games
18:42.01onetwoyeah lazbro people will go ingame
18:42.03onetwosee the custom maps are shit
18:42.05onetwolike we saw in phase 1
18:42.06devileskthere should be this
18:42.06onetwoand 2
18:42.08devileskas well as just a list
18:42.09onetwoand then wonder
18:42.12onetwowheres all the FPSes
18:42.22onetwowe had what
18:42.26onetwofebruary to july beta
18:42.28onetwopopularity system
18:42.30onetwodid not change
18:42.33onetwowell i guess it came out in april
18:42.35devilesksee they should have addressed the issue by attacking the way we choose the maps we want to host
18:42.35onetwoor may
18:42.41devilesknot the games we try to join
18:42.42*** join/#sc2mapster RaydenUni (~rayden@ip68-5-22-175.oc.oc.cox.net)
18:42.55*** join/#sc2mapster AsaPhelps (~asaphelps@pool-141-154-125-112.bos.east.verizon.net)
18:43.03onetwoim actually pretty sure it would be better off to just go back to war3's system
18:43.07onetwountil 9/10 dota happens
18:43.10onetwowhat else can they do
18:43.14onetwoits a conundrum
18:43.20devileskwhat they do is encourage people to host other maps
18:43.24devileskand do it early
18:43.35devileskbefore it becomes a one map mentality
18:43.47devileskencourage people to appreciate diversity
18:43.57devileskto try new things
18:44.32devileski think with dota it just became so much more popular than all the other maps
18:44.50monoframepretty much cause of the constant updating
18:44.51devileskit needed its own things or else it would overshadow everything else
18:45.01monoframeincluding new content, altering previous made changes
18:45.14devileskwhat do you do when monopolies happen
18:45.15monoframein such way promoting interest
18:45.22onetwowell
18:45.26onetworight now we have a worse monopolyu
18:45.28onetwoof nexus wars
18:45.29onetwobattlecra
18:45.30onetwop
18:45.32devileskyou break up the company ;o
18:45.37Lazbroat least dota succeeded in an even playing ground
18:45.46Lazbrothat's capitalism working properly
18:45.49onetwothe thing is, even with 90% dotas, you could still host line tower wars
18:45.51onetwoand get a game going
18:45.53ProzaicMuzeYeah
18:45.57onetwoall the people wanting to breathe a sigh of relief
18:45.58ProzaicMuzeWho cares if DotA is everywhere
18:45.59onetwofrom dota oversaturation
18:46.00ProzaicMuzeyou can play what you want
18:46.04devileskyea
18:46.09onetwoi think we can safely say popularity doesnt work right now
18:46.11onetwoand i dont know if it ever will
18:46.12devileskthats why their approach is stupid
18:46.19onetwowe have no way to seed our maps
18:46.24onetwomaybe just need to bite the bullet on this one blizz
18:46.27devileskthey're affecting the way we join games
18:46.27onetwoand hit shift+delete
18:46.33devileskwhen they should ahve been changing the way we make them
18:46.37ProzaicMuzeBTW - onetwo, do you have the patch MPQ handy in yoru isntall directory?
18:46.44ProzaicMuzeAnd how is/are it/they?
18:46.47ProzaicMuzehow big*
18:46.59ProzaicMuzewow
18:47.03ProzaicMuzetypos galore
18:47.16monoframecan anyone explain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELarTFL8NKU ?
18:47.22onetwohow do i find it prozaic
18:48.17ProzaicMuzew
18:48.18ProzaicMuzet
18:48.19ProzaicMuzef
18:48.22ProzaicMuzeis that!?
18:48.32ProzaicMuzeAnd you go to your install directory and fine the version folder
18:48.35ProzaicMuzeit "should" be in there somewhere.
18:49.17allenmelonwhy does the disc copy take longer to install than the digital?
18:49.19onetwoVersions
18:49.21onetwohas 2 folders
18:49.21onetwoBase15405
18:49.25onetwoShaders14513
18:49.47onetwoin base
18:49.49onetwois a 100 meg file
18:49.50onetwopatch.SC2Archive
18:49.55ProzaicMuzeThat
18:50.00devileskso many noobs on the HoN forums are scared that it's going to die because of sc2 and whatever dota clone comes out
18:50.02onetwothen 8 meg patch-enUS.SC2Archive
18:50.17onetwoa lot of games will die cause of sc2
18:50.18ProzaicMuzeI need both of those and likely whatever is the in the shader's archive
18:50.19AsaPhelpshas anyone ever uploaded a youtube video from their phone by emailing it to that address?
18:50.19onetwolike war3
18:50.20onetwolol
18:50.28Lazbrodevilesk: woot I hope so
18:50.31onetwoAccount Name      SCII-1 Account Status       Active  Product Level       Wings of Liberty  Region      North America (NA)
18:50.32ProzaicMuzeCan you archive everything in the Versions folder and upload it somewhere for me to download by chance?
18:50.32Vail|IsHereyou still cant patch Prozaic?
18:50.35ProzaicMuzeAnd no, I can't
18:50.45onetwoapparently im active
18:50.46onetwobut queued
18:50.48ProzaicMuzeApparently patches are against my religion now :(
18:50.50onetwo><
18:50.52devileskwell i'm sure people will stop playing hon to play the actual game of starcraft 2
18:50.55LazbroSotIS is a legit effort, not a cash grab
18:50.56Vail|IsHereyou dont have the beta still do you?
18:50.59devileskbut not because of some crappy sc2 dota version
18:51.03Fromethiusprozaicmuze you still having problems?
18:51.08onetwoprozaic
18:51.09Fromethiusi just finished installing you need any files?
18:51.11onetwoits another 150 megs
18:51.17onetwobaselineCache.bin
18:51.19Lazbrodevilesk: you realise ekcolnovkol is online? :p
18:51.21onetwoin Shaders folder
18:51.25johanw123ppl cant play 2 games? O.o
18:51.29johanw123i will
18:51.35onetwodev probably is speaking in general
18:51.37onetwonot directly about his dota
18:51.39onetwocause his is good
18:51.41onetwoi hated war3 dota
18:51.44onetwobut sotis is good
18:51.45devileskeven if his dota is good
18:51.49devileskit's not going to compete with HoN
18:51.53allenmelonhow long can you play the sc2 guest pass?
18:51.58Lazbroso many leavers -_-
18:52.02nicoli_s7 hours
18:52.55ProzaicMuzegah
18:52.59ProzaicMuzeso 250mb
18:53.04allenmelonyess.
18:53.05devileskbecause there's no way you can provide the features and services and support that an actual company like s2 can
18:53.07ProzaicMuzeDo you have a place you can upload that much to?
18:53.08allenmelonalmost done... 96%
18:53.11ProzaicMuzeOr know of a mirror?
18:53.16ProzaicMuzeAnd yes From. . . I'm still not able to patch
18:53.18devileskwhen you're stuck to bnet 2.0 and blizzard
18:53.23ProzaicMuzeWhich makes my life suxorz
18:53.36Lazbroit's true, BUT
18:53.51LazbroI did play SotIS a few times and every time someone got ganked they left
18:53.52Vail|IsHerethis is odd.. i cant create my own versions of the campaign stuff..
18:53.53devilesksc2 doesn't even allow you to reconnect to games you've disconnected from
18:53.54Lazbrobut still
18:53.58allenmelonpatch, its quick right?
18:54.01Lazbrothey're now making use of banks
18:54.02devileskwtf is SotIS?
18:54.11Lazbroso they could keep track of your leaves
18:54.19Lazbroif you leave too much they could make you insta lose
18:54.20devileskaren't all the banks client side
18:54.22Lazbrohey there's an idea
18:54.36devilesks2 has their own servers so everything is secure
18:54.41devileskand safe from hacks
18:54.43Lazbrodevilesk: Storm of the Imperial Sanctum - ekcolnvkol's dota
18:55.09devileskis he doing it alone?
18:55.10allenmelonhow does the own servers prevent hacks?
18:55.20Lazbrodevilesk: no, he has help of course
18:55.21*** join/#sc2mapster Darkparasit (534e5115@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.78.81.21)
18:55.22*** join/#sc2mapster Lilianna (~Lilianna@adsl-75-15-140-76.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net)
18:55.29LazbroI'm going to slowly inch my way into the inner circle too :p
18:55.40devileskbecause you don't have access to info you can't have
18:55.42Ashamedso i played fallout 3 for the first itme..... ( I don't see how any company can make such a open rpg.. and then put a lvl 20 cap on it )
18:55.55*** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (6d545a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.84.90.31)
18:56.23onetwoPM
18:56.24onetwoi do
18:56.26onetwobut itll be hours
18:56.32onetwoor an hour
18:56.33ProzaicMuzeblargh
18:56.33onetwoor more
18:56.38onetwoim not the fastest uploader
18:57.00ProzaicMuzeI'll just eschew SC2 and continue my boycott then
18:57.14DarkparasitHi, anyone know the files of a map file open with mpq editor?, i made a map in the beta, and now i have 4 upgrades with the same name and if i try to modify these the editor is crashing, i think with a mpq editor there could be a posibiliti to fix it but i dont find what i have to change in witch file, pm me plz if u wanna try to fix the map
18:57.44Ackishttp://twitter.com/gamingangel/status/19678656000 SC2 CE being given away announcement :)
18:58.01Mindful`zomg
18:58.02LazbroDarkparasit: save map as xml
18:58.07Mindful`did you make Ackis Recipe List?
18:58.17Ackisyeah
18:58.20onetwohttp://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2010/07/27/stout.starcraft.skorea.fields.cnn?iref=allsearch
18:58.20Mindful`<3 you
18:58.21onetwohahahaha
18:58.22onetwoidra
18:58.22onetwohahaha
18:58.24Ackisthanks
18:58.33AckisI don't know why I lose my op/voice status, I blame nicoli_s ;)
18:58.45devilesktester such a scrub
18:59.31devileskintotherainbow even worse
18:59.36ProzaicMuzePsh
18:59.38ProzaicMuzeIdrA!?
18:59.41ProzaicMuzeHe's a douche
18:59.47*** join/#sc2mapster s4ikD (~s4ikD@77-57-171-132.dclient.hispeed.ch)
18:59.53devileskintotherainbow completely blew game 4 against tester
19:00.00ProzaicMuzeAnd that chic sounds like she has something shoved up both nostrils
19:00.31devileskand tester sucked in the last game against idra
19:00.44Vail|IsHereprozaic did you download or get a box copy?
19:01.05ProzaicMuzeI stopped caring about the pro scene when they start to finalize the poor multiplayer unit selection.
19:01.13ProzaicMuzeEspecially for Zerg (my main)
19:01.17ProzaicMuzeAnd I downloaded in advance
19:01.35Vail|IsHeremaybe a redownload of the client would help?
19:01.46ProzaicMuzeXp
19:01.52ProzaicMuzeI'll have to try that later this evening.
19:01.56devileski love when day9 makes fun of idra raging
19:02.06devileskand i like when idra gets cheesed
19:03.22onetwoOrder Status:   Queued
19:03.24onetwoanyone else?
19:03.44devileski got mine delivered a few hours ago
19:03.46LazbroI have it :)
19:04.07Vail|IsHerelooks like i wont have to worry about the campaign stuffruining my mod afterall
19:04.10*** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@205.155.225.1)
19:04.13devileskthe package is pretty shitty
19:04.18devilesknot even a nice plastic cd case
19:04.29Saerishuzzah, got irc to work on the school's network finally
19:04.30Lazbrowhere are the campaign units in the editor :( I opened my old map and nada
19:04.34devileskjust a cardstock holder crap
19:04.35Saerisfuckin blocked ports
19:05.00Vail|IsHerethe campaign units are not editable as far as i can tell
19:05.06Lazbrowut
19:05.07monoframedevil, that's what you get when koticks saves on packaging
19:05.09onetwolol
19:05.12onetwofile->Dependancies
19:05.14onetwoadd standard
19:05.18onetwocheck off the 2 campaign ones
19:05.21Vail|IsHereeven when you do that
19:05.24allenmelonhey,
19:05.27devileskinstead i get this useless notepad
19:05.33allenmeloni got the same 3 digit code as i had in the beta
19:05.33Vail|IsHerethe Campain stuff isnt editable
19:05.36devileska notepad. really?
19:05.40devilesklike im going to write notes and shit in it?
19:05.50allenmelonsame name and 3 digit code
19:05.55monoframepass it your friends you will, kotick says
19:06.02allenmelonthen did onetwo also get 212 again?
19:06.09monoframeyour facebook friends, of course
19:06.09devileska notepad with a shitty wanted poster of raynor watermark
19:06.10devileskon every page
19:06.13Saeristhey're packing blizzard notepads again?
19:06.13onetwoi cant get in
19:06.16Saerisman
19:06.17onetwomy digital download is queued
19:06.19Saerisi got jipped
19:06.23Lazbroanecdote: I joined a game of SotIS and there was a guy who asked 'so this is dota?'. I said yes; In the game he went looking for 'tangos' and didn't find them and raged 'why cant they just make dota right' and left :p
19:06.24Lazbrorofl
19:06.29Saeriscollector's edition didn't have the notepad >.<
19:06.35onetwoi dont know anyone who had a working digital download yet
19:06.39devileski should just like take all these wanted papers
19:06.41devileskand put them up
19:06.43devileskin places
19:06.58Vail|IsHerei like the Raynor wanted note pad
19:07.09devileskmaybe notepads would be useful
19:07.11Lazbroso if you order the digital CE you get a .txt file instead of a notepad?
19:07.13devilesk50 years ago
19:07.21Vail|IsHerebetter than the Blizzard one i got with WC3 and TFT
19:07.40Saerisyea, they didn't have the notepads packed with WoW
19:07.40Saeris=(
19:08.01allenmelontheres no sotis on na servers?
19:08.01Saerisanyways
19:08.18Saerisekco just got it installed not too long ago
19:08.22Saerismight be at the bottom of the list
19:08.26Saerisor not up yet
19:08.30allenmelonoh, so its not on the top of the list yet?
19:08.31Saerisafk
19:08.31allenmelonoh opk
19:09.03Vail|IsHeredamn i wanted to use the raynor sniper unit for something
19:09.12*** join/#sc2mapster Triceron (60313557@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.49.53.87)
19:09.17Demonettesnipe kerrigan? ^^
19:09.45Vail|IsHerei want to doe something to kerrigan but  it aint that  unless you mean it like That ..>..>
19:10.15Demonettelol XD
19:10.25LazbroSaeris: are you also related to the SotIS development?
19:10.45Vail|IsHereRaynor and i have One thing in common we both <3 Kerrigan...
19:10.49Lazbro[21:08]<Vail|IsHere>i want to doe something to kerrigan but it aint that unless you mean it like That ..>..> ----- play the campaign, trust me :p
19:10.52ekcolnvkolit's coming up in about an hour
19:11.01Lazbrowb ekcolnovkol :)
19:11.01allenmelonoh cool ekcolnovkol
19:11.14allenmelonagria valley is the new popular 1v1 map now?
19:11.42DemonetteLOL the editor UI is green again XD
19:12.07devileskis sotis gonna be sc themed
19:12.20devileskor is it in its own fictional universe
19:12.21depthsofchaosi like how the game auto activates when the lobby is full
19:12.45depthsofchaosor was it like that always :p
19:12.54Lazbrodevilesk: if I can convince the crew it'll be SC themed, if not, it'll be in its fictional universe where people have names with dots in them :)
19:13.41Vail|IsHerestupid blizzard The only damn reason i bought this game was to get my hand on the campaign assets
19:13.42devileskheroes should be actual sc characters
19:13.45devileskotherwise it would be lame
19:13.49DemonetteLol maybe you alse have a dot in your name... but the dot and your ID is hidden at the moment XD
19:13.57Saerislazbro I'm just the facebook community manager
19:14.00slightlyrandomVail|IsHere: Why dont you, then ?
19:14.05*** join/#sc2mapster RodOfSC2 (~IceChat7@static-71-121-248-8.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net)
19:14.09RodOfSC2wee
19:14.10devilesklol facebook community manager
19:14.14devileski bet you guys have a twitter
19:14.16RodOfSC2any news about BANKS?
19:14.18Vail|IsHerewhy dont i what?
19:14.20Saerisnot yet
19:14.20onetwowhat are you talking about vail
19:14.21onetwoi used them
19:14.23Saerisi hate twitter
19:14.24onetwoin my map
19:14.28devileski don't have twitter
19:14.37Vail|IsHerei have them PLACED in my map
19:14.41Vail|IsHerebut i cant edit them
19:14.50Lazbrodevolesk: I know, there are many awesome characters in the lore, Aios Karnage, Lassatar, Temlaa, Sistask, ...
19:14.56depthsofchaoscant you use their models ?:o
19:14.58Saerisi don't see any need to use one, not like we needa tweet updates to people's phones and let them know a new version is out
19:15.25Vail|IsHerei really do NOT want to have to go through and recreate every thing ...
19:15.27devileskwho wouldn't want to play an actual zergling hero
19:15.30devileskor hydralisk hero
19:15.33devileskor ultralisk hero
19:15.39Hatimaybe not so good idea to start campaign on "Burtal"
19:15.45Saerisfacebook is good because you can easily reach your audience right on their most visited page, people don't need to make another account, and you have a place for quick and easy feedback
19:15.50Mindful`hati, i'm planning to
19:15.56Hatiwell
19:15.56Mindful`is it sadistically hard?
19:16.00Hatiwell
19:16.01Saerisyes
19:16.03devileskwhy create a crappy fictional universe when you're making a map that already takes place in an existing one
19:16.07Hatizerg invasion mission
19:16.08Saerisbrutal was fucking retarded hard
19:16.10Hatiis kinda harsh
19:16.26Lazbro[21:14]<devilesk>who wouldn't want to play an actual zergling hero ------ not zerglings, those are creeps. But a queen hero actually called Eschutiarch... why not
19:16.28Lazbro:)
19:16.30Mindful`i'll keep it in mind :P
19:16.35Mindful`haven't gotten a chance to start on the campaign
19:16.39Mindful`too much work to do on map
19:16.50*** join/#sc2mapster C-H (180ad540@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.10.213.64)
19:16.53Lazbro[21:14]<devilesk>why create a crappy fictional universe when you're making a map that already takes place in an existing one ------ it's easy to fall into author avatardom. You've seen a hero name on tv and you like it.
19:16.58Lazbronever fell into this
19:17.05Lazbroeven in Median XL I tried to be 100% true to existing lore
19:17.18Lazbroor at least augment it, not just put in random names
19:17.19devileskjust use the unit names
19:17.23`MindWorXI like Median XL
19:17.23devileskZergling
19:17.25devileskHydralisk
19:17.28`MindWorXPlayed it a lot
19:17.30devileskMarine
19:17.34LordAbyssi saw a unit called
19:17.37LordAbyssOMEGALISK
19:17.55Lazbrodevilesk: I don't think ekcolnovkol would agree but there are a LOT of characters in the SC2 universe
19:17.55devileskif i want to play an aos ill play HoN
19:18.06AshamedNO
19:18.20Lazbro[21:16]<`MindWorX>Played it a lot ------ kind of lagged behind with updates due to SC2 but I'll probably return now
19:18.20devileskan aos made in sc2 would only be good if it had the novelty of being sc themed
19:18.22Lazbro:p
19:18.26AshamedSc2 = better platform HoN will soon die out i betz
19:18.30`MindWorXHehe
19:18.39devileskyea bnet 2.0 is a great platform for hon
19:18.45devileskdon't be ridiculous
19:18.49Saerishonestly, i don't think so
19:18.51devileskhon has their own servers
19:18.51Lazbroyeah great
19:18.53Vail|IsHereAH HAH i found out why i couldnt edit the campain units
19:18.55onetwoi fucking knew it
19:19.00onetwosomeone took my identifier of 212
19:19.03onetwoi got lame ass 855
19:19.03onetwolol
19:19.05SaerisHoN will be around for a long time to come
19:19.05LazbroHAS LEFT THE GAME HAS LEFT THE GAME HAS LEFT THE GAME HAS LEFT THE GAME HAS LEFT THE GAME HAS LEFT THE GAME HAS LEFT THE GAME HAS LEFT THE GAME
19:19.05devileskhas so many features that a mapper couldn't possibly do
19:19.05Ashamed... so its created after a game.. that was created on sc
19:19.14Ashamedi would this the orginal= would do etter
19:19.21Ashamedbetter*
19:19.25Saerisand their upcomming map editor will be more tuned for DotA type maps
19:19.37Saerisso, it has it's niche
19:19.37LazbroSaeris: does anyone still play it?
19:19.43devileskhon is hack proof
19:19.46devilesksc2 is not
19:19.53Saerisquite a lot, actually
19:19.58Ashamedbut if it gets as big as dota did on war3
19:20.00LazbroI'd want to buy it again but I don't know if it's feasible to play after 6 months of downtime
19:20.02Ashamedreal matches will be hack proof
19:20.12devileskhow
19:20.17AshamedIs hon bigger then dota yet??
19:20.23devileskidk
19:20.25devileskbut it's definitely better
19:20.28Lazbrono but LoL is bigger than dota
19:20.32AshamedYou don't think Cal = safe?
19:20.33devileskLoL is free
19:20.35devileskand shitty
19:20.36Lazbro#4 on xfire
19:20.38Lazbrothat's crazy
19:20.47devileskbecause it's FREE
19:20.49Lazbropeaks at 2 million minutes played per hour
19:20.49Saerisi'd say wc3 dota is dead, as it's only stuck up pros and koreans left playing it
19:21.00Saerisno easy entry for new players
19:21.09Lazbrodevilesk: LoL does a lot of things right, namely it's newbie friendly
19:21.10devileskhon has the support of an actual game company
19:21.10SaerisHoN and LoL solved that with ranked matches
19:21.19Lazbrowhich is EXACTLY why newbies are turned off by HoN
19:21.23devileskwith all the resources that a company can provide
19:21.24RodOfSC2So noone has tested BANKS?
19:21.25Saerisand that's something you -can't- do with SC2
19:21.29Saerisand never will be able to do
19:21.32devileskno noobs are turned off by hon because it costs money
19:21.32Lazbronewbie joins: OMG RETARD Y DID U BUY BOOTS NOOB
19:21.41LazbroRodOfSC2: they worked, they still work
19:21.51AshamedCal... will go to the new sc2 platform when a successor is created ( That is going to pull all the real gamers to sc2, instead of hon ) and all the dota players on war3 will most have a better chance to converting to sc2
19:21.51devileskhon has plenty of things to help accomodate noobs
19:21.52Lazbrodevilesk: obviously but even in beta when it was free
19:21.53RodOfSC2talking about 817 char limit
19:21.58RodOfSC2Lazbro
19:21.59AshamedI bet dota will become big for sc2
19:22.05devileskwhen hon was free it was bigger than LoL
19:22.18LordAbyssmy brother plays LoL
19:22.23LazbroAshamed: I hope so ~ but the SotIS team is in the right direction
19:22.24LordAbyssit looks too cartooning for me
19:22.27devilesk^
19:22.30Lazbrodevilesk: LoL was 1/3 as big as it is now
19:22.33Ashamedwhat are they making laz?
19:22.40devileskonce again
19:22.41LazbroHoN collapsed when you had to actually invest into an account
19:22.42devileskLoL is free
19:22.42Saerisall things considered, HoN does have a high cost of entry. but LoL over time will cost commited players more
19:22.47LazbroAshamed: a racing game... no wait, DOTA
19:22.47devileskcollapsed?
19:22.47Saerisit's built in to their pay model
19:22.51devilesk30k people on all the time
19:22.52Ashamedlol
19:22.54devileskisn't a collapse at all
19:22.58LazbroSaeris: yes, and people gladly pay
19:23.07Lazbrodevilesk: SC2: currently ONE MILLION in EU
19:23.11AshamedI am 99% sure Hon will die within the year/ sc2 will become the common dota platform again
19:23.17devilesklazbro now you're ocmparing to sc2
19:23.18devileskdon't be an idiot
19:23.23devileskit's fucking STARCRAFT 2
19:23.23LazbroLoL is the victory of userfriendliness and a low entry barrier
19:23.23Saerisi highly doubt it
19:23.31Ashamedfor one thing dota = cal
19:23.39Ashamedso all the pros are playing it on blizzards games
19:23.40Ashamednot hon
19:23.49devileski don't care how friendly lol is to noobs
19:23.51Ashamedwhich will pull the other players as well
19:23.51devileskit sucks
19:24.01Lazbroobviously not :p
19:24.02devileskand hon has plenty of features to help accomodate noobs
19:24.14devilesknoobs just need to learn to find the right games
19:24.21devileskand make an attempt to learn the agme
19:24.22Lazbroboth games were free during beta, HoN stagnated, LoL climbed and never stopped climbing, HoN imploded when the beta players had to pay
19:24.23devileskgame*
19:24.25AshamedI think it was stupid to make an entire game out of a custom map
19:24.31Lazbroinflux into HoN from newbies: zero
19:24.31Ashamedits not going to work for long
19:24.32devileskhon never stagnated
19:24.36Ashamedpeople will get board
19:24.52Saerisi'm sorry, but because there will never be a way for players to create organized leagues and tournaments in SC2 for games like DotA, SC2 will never be the ideal platform for what DotA is today
19:24.54Ashamedi much rather play sc2 dota then hon
19:24.55Lazbro[21:23]<Ashamed>I think it was stupid to make an entire game out of a custom map ------ that's why when both HoN and LoL add new maps, they're never played, lol
19:25.00deathnight114damn, lol
19:25.02onetwohttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139064
19:25.02LazbroSaeris: backstabber
19:25.04devilesksaeris is right
19:25.05onetwoposted solution
19:25.05Saerisultimately the pros will play LoL or HoN
19:25.07onetwoto digital download
19:25.09onetwoif anyone cares
19:25.10deathnight114I'm trying to play the whole campain on brutal it's pretty tough
19:25.10devileskexactly
19:25.22AshamedGUYS
19:25.25devilesklook
19:25.25AshamedDOTA is ON CAL
19:25.26devileskif you're a dota pro
19:25.26Saerisbecause pros will play it for the leagues and to win tournaments
19:25.29devileskyou're moving to hon
19:25.33devileskbecaues it's a very similar game
19:25.41Ashamedthey have orgonize CAL matches
19:25.42Ashamedfor DTA
19:25.43devileskthe noobfriendliness doesn't mean shit
19:25.44AshamedDota*
19:25.46devileskin the competitive scene
19:25.54devileskwhich is what will really put HoN over the top
19:25.55AshamedThe competive seen will move to sc2
19:26.02devileskno
19:26.03Ashamedand that will make the others that don't play it competive
19:26.05Ashamedmove too
19:26.10devileskdota players will play the dota game
19:26.15Saerisanyways
19:26.17Saerisi'm in class
19:26.17devileskcompletely different games
19:26.21AshamedWe will see
19:26.24devilesk...
19:26.28Saerisand i need to get back to working on this howitzer concept
19:26.31Ashamedi bet Dota becomes huge in the next year or so
19:26.34devileskyou think the entire dota competitive scene is just going to die?
19:26.39Ashamedand Hon = dies out
19:26.42devileskit's going to move to hon
19:26.44Ashamedno i think its going to transfer games
19:26.50devileskits going to move to hon
19:26.55AshamedNo its going to move to sc2 -.- because blizzard has alot of money
19:26.59Ashamedand they can make sure it does
19:27.01Saerisalso, need to check how my map is doing
19:27.06devilesksc2 doesn't do shit for dota
19:27.10devileskblizz doesn't
19:27.11Lazbro[21:24]<devilesk>the noobfriendliness doesn't mean shit ------ who's going to be the next generation?
19:27.23devileskthe pros don't care
19:27.26AshamedIts going to move to sc2 -.- just watch
19:27.30RodOfSC2lazbro did u test over 817 characters?
19:27.31LazbroSaeris, ekcolnovkol: plz support me here :(
19:27.33devilesklazbro there's enough nonretarded gamers
19:27.36devilesktaht will be able to pick up the game
19:27.38devileskand learn it
19:27.43devileskand ascend to pro level
19:27.43LazbroRodOfSC2, I'm being efficient instead
19:27.48RodOfSC2lol
19:27.58devileskif a person has the potential skill to turn pro
19:28.00Lazbrodevilesk: nonretarded =/= getting called an idiot whenever you do anything that isn't 'pro'
19:28.01devileskthey aren't going to be turned off as a noob
19:28.02RodOfSC2i need more room than we can get bud
19:28.07LazbroON YOUR FIRST GAME?
19:28.07RodOfSC2nothing to do with efficiency
19:28.16devilesk....
19:28.16RodOfSC2ony my first game?
19:28.19devileskby your logic
19:28.22devileskdota should have died out
19:28.24RodOfSC2ive been modding for 10 years
19:28.25devileskbecause it's the same game
19:28.27LazbroIn HoN if you join a 'noobs only' game, either you get called a noob or kicked or the other team is farming k/d
19:28.30devileskso it shares the same unfriendlinesss
19:28.34LordAbyssanyone play sols open rpg from wc3?
19:28.40devileskthe dota community attitude is the same as the hon one
19:28.42devileskand dota did great
19:28.49devileskhon is the successor to dota
19:28.57Lazbro[21:26]<RodOfSC2>i need more room than we can get bud --- try a bitfield
19:28.59devileskand will just pick off where dota left
19:29.04devileskpick up
19:29.09AsaPhelpsbrutal is kinda hard, but also I suck
19:29.21RodOfSC2i predict the DOTA game, with regards to success, for sc2 wont be made for awhile
19:29.27RodOfSC2lazbro
19:29.32AshamedHon was the succssor to dota because they were not expect sc2 .... " Its the fanbase menality " It will only move to sc2 because of all the "Loyal" fans from war3
19:29.42RodOfSC2im the reason taht 3 people MADE packed routines for banks
19:29.52RodOfSC2ihave 1000s of thingsi need to store
19:30.00devileskashamed have you even played hon?
19:30.05Ashamedi did
19:30.08RodOfSC2im not writing some rinky dinky rpg
19:30.08Ashamedlike once lol
19:30.12Lazbrowhat's the highest prime with less than 817 digits?
19:30.14RodOfSC2that needs 20 bits of data
19:30.17Ashamedi am not a dota player
19:30.18Lazbrorodofsc2: thanks, I AM
19:30.23RodOfSC2congrats
19:30.30devileskthen you should know that the features and support that s2 can give would greatly exceed anything possible on an sc2 platform
19:30.34RodOfSC2ihave idea lazbro nor do i care
19:30.35AshamedIt doesn't matter how good Hon is... sc2 will beat it just watch
19:30.38Lazbrobut you can haunt construction machinery, so there
19:30.49devileskashamed now you're just being a ridiculous fanboy
19:30.50Lazbrodevilesk: yes, and they used it for what, THE CHIPPER
19:31.53RodOfSC2so looks like we are missing ALOT of sc1 units
19:31.53RodOfSC2i get to pwn triceron
19:31.55Ashamedeverything that needs to be watch will be watched by cal.. everyone else wont care
19:32.05Ashamedand i am pretty sure pros would rather be accepted into Cal.. then to pay for HON
19:32.14Ashamedand actually have a chance to game for a living
19:32.44ekcolnovkol4SotIS is live
19:33.09RodOfSC2not its not its a computer game it cant be live
19:33.37devileskwtf is cal
19:33.49slightlyrandomcalifornia
19:33.49slightlyrandomduh
19:33.54Lazbro>_<
19:33.55Ashamedcal = the biggest compation in gaming like every
19:33.57Ashamedever*
19:34.12Lazbroah yes
19:34.13Fiskerdoes anyone know what changed with map publishing from beta?
19:34.15Ashamedlan game tournments
19:34.16Lazbrocompations are dangerous
19:34.25AshamedCAL was huge for dota
19:34.27Lazbroyou need an anti-compator to deal with them
19:34.37LazbroFisker: in the EU it works now, basically
19:34.44devileskyou eralize hon is already in those big competitions
19:34.45slightlyrandomCal isn't on wikipedia, so it doesn't exist
19:34.47devileskrealize*
19:35.00Ashamedis it cal already?
19:35.02AshamedCal = biggest
19:35.06Ashamedno bigger
19:35.33Fiskerbaw Lazbro
19:35.40Fiskerso still ridiculous size and region constraints?
19:36.02Reactorexonetwo: HI!
19:36.04devileskare you ashamed from staredit.net
19:36.15Ashamedyeah
19:36.26devileskwow why am i even arguing this with you
19:36.33devileskbecause i know you to be an idiot
19:36.37slightlyrandomhaha
19:36.40Ashamedi am no idiot
19:36.43devileskyes you are
19:36.43RodOfSC2Reactorex do me a favor and go test banks > 817 chars
19:36.47Ashamedi am not
19:36.56devilesknow you're just drawing me into another argument
19:36.57devileskignored
19:37.00ReactorexI'm waiting on my shipment of sc2 to arrive.
19:37.06Ashamed... you just disrespected me
19:37.08RodOfSC2ah
19:37.12devileskyou don't deserve respect
19:37.13ReactorexQuestion. XD
19:37.19Ashamed... devilesk please stop
19:37.22ReactorexWhy'd you mention my name as soon as I talked? XD
19:37.28devileskno you stop
19:37.36RodOfSC2cuz i figured y could help me
19:37.37AshamedI was having a normal conversation with you.. I was not disrespecting your knowledge at all
19:37.43devileskno
19:37.44Ashamedanyone that needs to make fun of someone in an aurgument
19:37.46Ashamedis an idiot
19:37.59devileski just came to the simple realization that arguing with you is pointless
19:38.01ReactorexI wish I could :P
19:38.05RodOfSC2i dotoo
19:38.08ReactorexAlas... poor me, I have to wait.
19:38.13RodOfSC2all i care about atm is if banks are bigger
19:38.16ReactorexBUT I
19:38.23Ashamed... because you are an idiot and the only way out of the aurgment was making fun of me??
19:38.28ReactorexI'M GETTING IT ON THE SAME DAY WITH FREE SHIPPING. XD
19:38.29slightlyrandomIaaaiII, will aaaaalways looooooove
19:38.30AsaPhelpsare there any publish maps that use banks?
19:38.31devileskno because you are
19:38.48devileskand i know you can't be convinced otherwise
19:38.49AshamedDevilesk you are just proving that you are ignorant
19:38.52devileskbecause i know who you are
19:38.53RodOfSC2yes therea re
19:39.15RodOfSC2but none use huge bank files
19:39.15devileskand i know you're a waste of time
19:39.15slightlyrandomThen stop wasting time on him
19:39.15slightlyrandomBy Zeus
19:39.18*** join/#sc2mapster lotharscm (45f4d0a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.244.208.160)
19:39.21devileski'd rather tell him he's a waste of time :P
19:39.22RodOfSC2im at work so i cant test :P
19:39.31slightlyrandomWhy waste time on a waste of time?
19:39.32AshamedI am going to show people this convo and ask everyone who they think the idiot is
19:39.40devileskbecause i have time to waste
19:39.43Ashamedand i bet you peeople will say well the guy insulting the other person
19:39.49slightlyrandomWaste it on youtube, then
19:39.55devileskashamed go ahead
19:39.59onetwohi Reactorex
19:40.16devileskanyone with a brain will see that my side is the correct side
19:40.16onetwoim bout to publish infection
19:40.16onetwoand watch it sit on page 8
19:40.18onetwoits near perfection now too
19:40.18slightlyrandomIt'll be awesome
19:40.19devileskthere's no way an sc2 dota competes with HoN
19:40.21ReactorexD'awh.
19:40.39ReactorexI'm gonna advertise it as soon as I get SC2 :P
19:41.10onetwoprays release didnt break anything in the map
19:41.11onetwohaha
19:41.25devileskyea
19:41.28devileski haven't opened any of my maps yet
19:41.35devileskim gonna back them up first
19:41.52slightlyrandomAll my backups are online :S
19:41.58devileskand then get some info from people, see if there's anything that's been broken
19:41.59Mindful`anyone know the ratio of game time seconds to real time seconds?
19:42.06Mindful`on normal or faster
19:42.39slightlyrandomSay, does anyone want to reap the glory and the rewards of publishing a map? I got one in the public domain you can rip off
19:42.51slightlyrandomI'm just curious if the thing still works
19:43.31lotharscmhow do you stop yourself from bein player 16 when testing a map
19:43.38slightlyrandomYou're normally player 1
19:43.42slightlyrandomPlayer 16 is noone and terrain
19:43.47lotharscmno I am 16
19:44.03lotharscmcausing outside paramater error
19:44.08slightlyrandomHow did you draw this conclusion ?
19:44.10devileskalso for sotis using SC2 models and not making them sc2 themed is kinda lame
19:44.20devileskbecause i'll always see them as sc units
19:44.22onetwolol map publish is so slow atm
19:44.34lotharscmbecause it tells me what player I am when trigger goes off
19:44.36devilesknot whatever made up crap you make up for it
19:44.44slightlyrandom...and how does the trigger go off ?
19:44.50LordAbyssscrew this, gonna go play zelda
19:44.52LordAbyssmajoras mask
19:45.02lotharscmhow? a unit dies
19:45.19lotharscmit is onetwo's hero revive
19:45.25lotharscmtrigger tutorial
19:45.34lotharscmtells me player 16's hero is reviving
19:45.45lotharscmthen gives an error that 16 is outside the paramater
19:45.54slightlyrandomWell, I will tell you, from past experience, that player 16 is the owner of the terrain
19:46.09lotharscmsame problem as this person
19:46.09lotharscmhttp://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/5168-stuck-as-player-16-when-testing-a-map/
19:46.16LordAbysswtb networking server for n64
19:47.23slightlyrandomBoth you and this here person need to post some code so we can see just what the hell you're doing to cause this behavior, and cross test it with a PickEachPlayer in ActivePlayers and posting you name, or something
19:47.55Glynnshouldn't you be using players 0-15, and not 16?
19:48.07slightlyrandomMind reading is a rare gift, and is seldom observed on the internet
19:48.17RodOfSC2interesting "feature' lotharscm
19:48.44lotharscmit isnt in the trigger code, it is coming from somewhere else
19:49.15onetwodamn most of the maps are shitty again
19:49.17onetwoon US
19:49.18onetwolol
19:49.24slightlyrandom;)
19:49.25lotharscmit is onetwo's hero revive trigger tutorial.. works in his map but if I use it in mine playesr are 16
19:49.38lotharscmit has nothing to do with his code
19:49.58slightlyrandomlotharscm: (21:47:24) slightlyrandom: Both you and this here person need to post some code so we can see just what the hell you're doing to cause this behavior, ---> and cross test it with a PickEachPlayer in ActivePlayers and posting you name, or something <---
19:50.15onetwolol
19:50.18onetwoInfection is published
19:50.20onetwowoo no one joining
19:50.26onetwowe'll have to do something later Reactorex
19:50.35onetwoit has a chance to stay on page 1 now
19:50.43onetwosince its number of unique players
19:50.47onetwoand not just times hosted
19:51.42lotharscmhttp://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/5020-video-triggers-hero-revival/#p13
19:52.12slightlyrandomGood luck lotharscm
19:52.20*** join/#sc2mapster jbrantly1 (~jbrantly@94.134.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com)
19:52.45RodOfSC2lotharscm are u saying that if you host your map and have 1 person the host then start that it returns ur player # as 16?
19:53.22lotharscmI havent hosted in on bnet, but in testing mode all players return as 16 regardless of who they are
19:53.52jbrantly1is it possible for a sc2 mod to do network communication? for instance, to grab an xml file when the game starts?
19:54.06onetwobanks
19:54.13RodOfSC2yeswhat about banks?
19:54.20RodOfSC2oh nm
19:54.26RodOfSC2u were just answering his /
19:54.38*** join/#sc2mapster ShadowTiger (4b198235@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.25.130.53)
19:55.00*** join/#sc2mapster movali (5dd45f27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.212.95.39)
19:56.06AsaPhelpsis protoss the next expansion or is zerg first
19:56.26Vail|IsHerezerg
19:57.28RepoNew map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/green-canopy/. Green Canopy. SilverPotatoXL (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen.
19:59.52Sixen-.-
20:00.02SixenI still have to wait until thursday
20:00.03Sixen-.-
20:00.44Mindful`:(
20:01.08*** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Miranda@host-89-230-244-222.nowydwor.mm.pl)
20:01.11nicoli_sjbrantly1:no
20:01.12Mindful`anyone know how you would go about making it so that items have a shared cooldown?
20:01.18nicoli_sit cant do anything cool like that
20:01.26Mindful`i just kind of assumed it would work like wc3 where if one item in your inventory is on CD, all the items of the same type are
20:01.28Mindful`but it doesn't D:
20:01.29nicoli_sand mods are just collections of data
20:01.44nicoli_slibs are collection of galaxy code, but it cant access the network
20:02.27jbrantly1nicoli_s: thanks. bummer.
20:03.44FiskerSixen
20:03.46Fiskeri am very mad
20:03.49Sixenme too
20:03.57Fiskeri am madder
20:04.03Fiskerif you can call it that
20:04.18Tolkfansomeone check out "Castanar Monitor Large" doodad and cycle though all the variants :D
20:04.34Fiskerbut Sixen
20:04.38Fiskeryou know what sucks?
20:04.51Sixenwhat
20:05.10FiskerSC2 disconnecting you from Battle.net 1-2 minutes into a game
20:05.39Mindful`tolk, the workstation doodad has as variant where someone is logging onto wow
20:05.48Mindful`also, anyone know about making items share a cooldown?
20:05.54RodOfSC2Mindful` im sure u could do that via trigger
20:06.02RodOfSC2because u can set cooldowns by trigge
20:06.03RodOfSC2r
20:06.05Mindful`yeah
20:06.18Mindful`it seems like there should be a way to do it by data though
20:06.26Vail|IsHereor maybe you could give them the same cool down link
20:06.32Mindful`think is, i did
20:06.39Mindful`in fact all i want is for the same item type to share a cooldown with itself
20:07.01Mindful`the problem is basically that using an item doesn't put other items of the same type on cooldown
20:07.32Fisker<PROTECTED>
20:07.42Sixenagree with what
20:07.56SixenI don't even have SC2 yet, so you lose.
20:08.12*** join/#sc2mapster Azu (4@78-70-210-140-no156.tbcn.telia.com)
20:10.07Fiskeri can't even play it
20:10.15*** join/#sc2mapster Repo_ (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net)
20:10.16Fiskerso i might as well not have it
20:10.32*** part/#sc2mapster jbrantly1 (~jbrantly@94.134.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com)
20:11.16movali"workstation doodad has as variant where someone is logging onto wow" what?!?!
20:12.28Mindful`yeh
20:12.30Mindful`castanar workstation
20:12.42Mindful`one of the variants has a screen with the WoW character select screen up
20:12.48onetwoSixen
20:12.50onetwoi just got it
20:12.54onetwowhy is yours thursday?
20:13.07SixenShipping.
20:13.20SixenBest Buy (which i've now dubbed Worst Buy) wouldn't let me choose my shipping prefs.
20:14.11Fiskerbawbwabwabwabwabwabwabwabwabwa
20:14.19Fiskeri mean, hello Sixen
20:14.34Myst_DooMbest buy always sucked
20:14.44Myst_DooMever since they fucked up their rewards program
20:14.47Fiskeri got my CE
20:14.49Fiskerwhich was nice
20:15.31*** join/#sc2mapster ekcolnvkol (ekcolnovko@pool-173-68-43-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
20:17.06Fiskeranyway Sixen
20:17.10Fiskeri can atleast bitch at Blizzard
20:17.11Fiskeryou can't
20:17.31onetwoi never preorder anything
20:17.31onetwoi dont like shipping
20:17.32onetwohave to drive 45 mins to pick it up if im not home and missed it too
20:18.54SixenI was fine with it
20:19.03SixenI called to change it to instore pickup
20:19.05*** join/#sc2mapster Motive (~motive@c-68-39-176-236.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
20:19.09Sixenthey told me their computers were down, call tomorrow
20:19.17Sixenso I called the next day and they said it was too late
20:20.58MotiveDoes anyone know how I might do a data effect so that when a unit dies, it revives itself?
20:21.16*** join/#sc2mapster Ingela (~Ingela@90-230-169-130-no35.tbcn.telia.com)
20:25.52depthsofchaosapparently that wasnt the right cable :o
20:25.52*** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net)
20:25.52*** join/#sc2mapster ekcolnvkol (ekcolnovko@pool-173-68-43-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
20:25.52*** join/#sc2mapster birne (~birne@xdsl-87-79-169-253.netcologne.de)
20:25.52Azuand fun custom maps up yet? :)
20:25.52Azuany*
20:25.52depthsofchaosyeh 10 tower defense :o
20:26.38depthsofchaosand crush company the one i actually liked
20:26.40depthsofchaosbud needs work :o
20:28.18*** join/#sc2mapster movali (5dd45f27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.212.95.39)
20:28.18*** join/#sc2mapster ShadowTiger (4b198235@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.25.130.53)
20:28.18*** join/#sc2mapster lotharscm (45f4d0a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.244.208.160)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster RodOfSC2 (~IceChat7@static-71-121-248-8.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@205.155.225.1)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster Lilianna (~Lilianna@adsl-75-15-140-76.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster RaydenUni (~rayden@ip68-5-22-175.oc.oc.cox.net)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster Mindful` (~Something@c-67-169-116-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG (516f48df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.111.72.223)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster Furyhunter (~Furyhunte@cpe-70-112-108-97.austin.res.rr.com)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster Bifuu|X (~Bifuu@cpe-071-077-145-012.nc.res.rr.com)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster Glynn (45b31f51@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.179.31.81)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster deathnight114 (~chatzilla@c-24-19-236-254.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster ubdead (~kvirc@5ee53e4e.dsl.concepts.nl)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster Hati (kvirc@dslb-092-078-027-247.pools.arcor-ip.net)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster Lazbro (~chatzilla@91.182.101.17)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster Fromethius (d03a751d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.58.117.29)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster FireryRage (~FireryRag@129-97-120-67.uwaterloo.ca)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster Gwypaas (~I@78-69-139-83-no129.tbcn.telia.com)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster Curt` (~DorkeyDea@adsl-76-241-81-242.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster Clord (~Clord@62-165-184-94.bb.dnainternet.fi)
20:28.19*** join/#sc2mapster slightlyrandom (~random@port451.ds1-ba.adsl.cybercity.dk)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster Goateee (4e488882@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.72.136.130)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster Witchsong|AFK (~Witchsong@120.252.202.84.customer.cdi.no)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster `MindWorX (~Nikolaj.M@93.166.203.126)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster Wihl[ (~W@79.136.98.17)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster Megalon (~Megalon@d86-32-171-168.cust.tele2.at)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster art[] (~art@adsl-99-35-13-157.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster monoframe (monoframe@ctv-213-164-103-252.vinita.lt)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster Phatency (phatency@a91-155-196-27.elisa-laajakaista.fi)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster Kalekin (~nnscript@41-132-247-116.dsl.mweb.co.za)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster Fatal5101 (~Fatal510@c-98-238-144-217.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster P_R_Deltoid (~P_R_Dontk@c-76-20-43-100.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster Gnarfoz (smallbrain@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Gnarfoz)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster Falsus (~Falsus@c-fe7ae055.1219-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster frossen (~lul@0606ds6-od.0.fullrate.dk)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster poiuy_qwert (~poiuy_qwe@bas5-toronto47-1176439055.dsl.bell.ca)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster casperb (51bf6a9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.191.106.158)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster JamesObscura (~James@ip98-171-168-128.sb.sd.cox.net)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster picklefish (~Shane@cpe-72-179-54-173.austin.res.rr.com)
20:28.20*** join/#sc2mapster hyarion (c05ben@peppar.cs.umu.se)
20:28.21*** join/#sc2mapster A1win (a1win@nikita.tnnet.fi)
20:28.21*** join/#sc2mapster Grum (~grum@codebase2.xs4all.nl)
20:28.21*** join/#sc2mapster HP-X|Arthas (dv07lfk@salt.cs.umu.se)
20:28.21*** join/#sc2mapster Shenlok_ (shenlok@spoon.netsoc.tcd.ie)
20:28.21*** mode/#sc2mapster [+vvv onetwo Hati Grum] by niven.freenode.net
20:47.17*** join/#sc2mapster purl_ (~purl@rikers.org)
20:47.18*** topic/#sc2mapster is #sc2mapster http://sc2mapster.com/ | Minigame Contest: http://bit.ly/cuuQSi | Patch 0 Undocumented Editor Notes: | Idle in #MWE for MilkyWayEditor!
20:47.27AsaPhelpslol i'm in a custom game with someone named idra
20:47.48*** join/#sc2mapster Azu (4@78-70-210-140-no156.tbcn.telia.com)
20:48.41`MindWorXI am a game named idra
20:51.01devilesknonunique ids is stupid
20:51.03devileskso very stupid
20:53.18*** join/#sc2mapster EternalWraith (c636cab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.54.202.182)
20:53.22*** join/#sc2mapster Computerpunk (~Computerp@95.76.177.207)
20:53.30EternalWraithHow do I change to the old theme??
20:54.12*** join/#sc2mapster Nihility_ (63e5be8c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.229.190.140)
20:54.14monoframeWasn't there a newspost with the linky?
20:54.30monoframeto change back and forth the themes
20:54.56EternalWraithNever saw it
20:55.17monoframethis one: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/random-stuff-trigger-overview/
20:55.41EternalWraithmonoframe:  Oh, thanks
20:56.58deathnight114wth are the cheats for scII
20:57.06deathnight114The only one i've found is terribleterribldamage
20:57.13deathnight114terribleterribledamage*
20:58.26*** join/#sc2mapster funcmode (561cda92@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.28.218.146)
20:58.33*** join/#sc2mapster Dotted (Dotted@bureaucrat.wowwiki.dk)
21:00.00*** join/#sc2mapster Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys)
21:00.47AsaPhelpsgame called epic, looks like dota, 90% its a rickroll
21:01.32funcmodehi, I'm having an issue with getting maps published on different regions, has anyone had success with this?
21:03.59Mindful`hrm
21:04.09Mindful`if i put my map up on SC2Mapster, can anyone just download/edit it?
21:04.17Mindful`i assume there's some way of protecting it, but idk what it is
21:05.57*** join/#sc2mapster Computerpunk (~Computerp@95.76.177.207)
21:07.14SixenYes, Mindful. To protect it, I believe you can remove the SC2components file
21:07.24SixenUnless of course, you upload a locked map.
21:07.41AsaPhelpswhat does ttd do death?
21:08.03ShadowTigerwhy do you need cheats anyways? dont you want achievements?
21:08.33Mindful`i don't even know how to upload a locked map >.>
21:08.42ShadowTigeruse the publishing tool?
21:08.50Mindful`to the site, not to bnet
21:09.00ShadowTigeryeah but that gives you a locked version of the map
21:09.06Mindful`where?
21:09.18ShadowTigeron bnet of course
21:09.20ShadowTiger: D
21:09.22Mindful`X_X
21:09.29ShadowTigeri dunno if it gives you a local copy as well
21:09.35Mindful`that's whati  would be looking for
21:09.44ShadowTigerbut you could always dl your map off bnet
21:09.49ShadowTigerand it will be locked
21:09.53Mindful`i don't even know where THAT would end up
21:10.19ShadowTigereither in you my documents/sc2
21:10.22ShadowTigeror in your appdata
21:10.31Mindful`mmm
21:10.32Mindful`aight
21:11.51Mindful`you sure about that?
21:12.01AsaPhelpsdid anyone try the map "epic"?
21:12.17Mindful`saw a forum post about it
21:12.36Mindful`looks like SC2's dota
21:12.55AsaPhelpsi don't know why people want a dota so bad, sc2 has so much more potential than that
21:13.21*** join/#sc2mapster Arthas-- (5ae166ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.225.102.237)
21:13.21Mindful`i think the idea is that whatever dota equivilent sc2 produces will use that potential to its fullest, instead of being a dota clone
21:13.23AsaPhelps*plays dota for sc2*
21:13.27Mindful`at least, that's what i'm hoping
21:13.31Vail|IsHereooh the zerg drop pod is soo cool..
21:13.38AsaPhelpsi need a project to work on but I suck
21:13.42Hatiindead vail
21:14.25AsaPhelpsis that in campaign vali?
21:14.30Vail|IsHereyes.
21:14.50Vail|IsHerewell i dont know if its used yet but its in the campaign stuff
21:15.15*** join/#sc2mapster PoC (~PoC@173.216.91.45)
21:16.19PoCanyone else have no sound with release?
21:16.45Mindful`actually, my friend doesn't
21:16.57Mindful`although he just left for the gym, so i can't get more info out of him =/
21:17.06PoCI can't figure out what's up.  beta worked fine
21:17.18PoCsoundwise, and nothing's changed on my pc
21:18.48Vail|IsHereare you using vista? Mac or 7?
21:19.22Reactorexhas SC2 now.
21:19.28Vail|IsHereWhoo
21:19.40casperbAnyone else obsessing about getting a perfect score in challenges? :p
21:19.50Vail|IsHereis any one here good with say editing textures for modles?
21:20.11Reactorexonetwo: Received it via free 3-day shipping today. XD
21:20.43*** join/#sc2mapster spawned99 (be603015@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.96.48.21)
21:20.46spawned99hello
21:21.22PoCwindows 7
21:21.56Vail|IsHeredont know about seven but if it were vista id open the sound mixer while the game is running and see if its muted
21:22.37ReactorexVista has a sound mixer as well.
21:22.40ReactorexOr at least..
21:22.43ReactorexSome functionality of one.
21:22.49ReactorexHowever crappy it is.
21:23.05spawned99are you yoda
21:23.07spawned99lol
21:23.25ReactorexI am.. sparta!
21:23.40*** join/#sc2mapster rebb (d9513d9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.81.61.154)
21:23.44rebbhi
21:24.04rebbis anyone elses beta-map completely broken in the game ?
21:24.44Vail|IsHerenot sure i will test one of mine
21:24.47*** join/#sc2mapster Bifuu (~kvirc@cpe-071-077-145-012.nc.res.rr.com)
21:24.47*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Bifuu] by ChanServ
21:25.02BifuuDAmn epic battles making my graphics card overheat
21:25.24PoCalready checked sound mixer, not the problem
21:25.43Bifuui figured it would so i saved my game, named the save "justincase" and as soon as the "Savecomplete" sign came up icrashed haha
21:30.53*** join/#sc2mapster FireryRage (~FireryRag@129-97-120-67.uwaterloo.ca)
21:35.36*** join/#sc2mapster FireryRage (~FireryRag@129-97-120-67.uwaterloo.ca)
21:36.00rebb"requested publish name has unacceptable words : starcraft" what. theres no starcraft in the name anywhere
21:36.27`MindWorXIncase anyone is interested, multiple logins to the same account is possible
21:36.37`MindWorXSo you can play the campaign multiple places with the same key
21:36.38Vail|IsHereRebb nope  my beta maps and mods are just as broken as they were in beta no more no less
21:37.14rebbVail|IsHere: ok, turns out i had loaded an outdated version of it, the latest one seems to work ok actually. except for this weird publish problem
21:37.36Vail|IsHerecheck the name its trying to be published under ..
21:37.36rebbi took out "starcraft" from the description, now it complains about "starcraft" in the publish name, which doesnt exist
21:37.50rebbnope, no starcraft in that
21:38.16rebbhmm, "use for all locales" fixed it for some reason
21:44.43*** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@205.155.225.1)
21:47.26nicoli_sreally `MindWorX? cool
21:47.39`MindWorXIndeed
21:47.51AsaPhelpsi don't even see sotis on us
21:47.57nicoli_s`MindWorX:how hard do you think it would be to RE GE's method for pulling down/listing mods on bnet?
21:48.27*** join/#sc2mapster Fromethius (d03a751d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.58.117.29)
21:48.32`MindWorXWouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole
21:48.46`MindWorXSince it likely involves some battle.net.dll stuff
21:48.51`MindWorXWhich i don't work with
21:49.08MotiveWell, this isn't annoying. Getting a "GATEWAY_DOWN" error every time I try to publish today :(
21:49.31onetwohaha lol i ended up in silver
21:49.34AsaPhelpsso is terratron an actual unit?
21:49.34onetwophase 1: platinum
21:49.37onetworelease: silver
21:49.41onetwooh boy
21:49.48nicoli_s`MindWorX:damn oh well
21:50.14onetwoman the competition is fierce
21:50.20onetwoi think everyone i played today is a beta player
21:50.20onetwowas*
21:51.30`MindWorXI can maybe extract the list from a running game, that's idling in the map/mod browser
21:51.33`MindWorXOr whatever
21:53.05onetwowell, atleast i can stop doing ladder and play my custom map with people
21:53.06onetwooh wait
21:53.08onetwo:/
22:04.34*** join/#sc2mapster Unrea1 (47c56d5d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.197.109.93)
22:04.40Unrea1Yo
22:08.18ckknighthowdy
22:08.46Unrea1Not many amazing custom games on the top list right now :|
22:09.15rebbdoes the map-search textbox still only search from the beginning of the mapname ? or substring search by now ?
22:10.20RodOfSC2OMG my computer at home disconnected!
22:10.35RodOfSC2everyone is playing campaign
22:10.37Lazbrothe spirit of the empty dorm has taken over your internet
22:10.44RodOfSC2so i will ask again
22:10.50RodOfSC2did anyone properly test banks?
22:10.51LazbroUnrea1: they're crowded out by melee maps atm
22:10.56Unrea1Yeah
22:11.05LazbroRodOfSC2: I heard the European Union did and the stress tests were positive
22:11.06Lazbro:p
22:11.16RodOfSC2what did u hear?
22:11.22RodOfSC2did they increase the file sizes/
22:11.22RodOfSC2?
22:11.43eggyhow's launch day? ;)
22:11.44Lazbroyou asked about a bank test, I replied with the only bank test I knew
22:11.46Furyhunterno
22:11.49AsaPhelpsthat joke went way over his head
22:11.51Furyhunterlaunch day is fun eggy
22:11.51Lazbroyaknow, just to avoid crickets
22:11.52RodOfSC2:P
22:12.05eggyheh
22:12.09RodOfSC2hey eggt
22:12.11RodOfSC2y
22:12.16eggyI'm installing it now.
22:12.18RodOfSC2<rodofnod at work
22:12.26onetwoyeah unreal
22:12.27onetwoi agree
22:12.30onetwoi played some ladder
22:12.31eggyhey RodOfSC2 :P
22:12.34onetwogood players are on atm
22:13.13*** join/#sc2mapster Motive (~motive@c-68-39-176-236.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
22:13.23MotiveLol, did US hosting just die? I can't create games. :(
22:13.23AsaPhelpsdid you try zerg rushing
22:13.30MotiveNvm there we go
22:13.31Motive:P
22:13.43eggyMotive.
22:13.49Motiveeggy.
22:14.00eggyWant to play?
22:14.04eggyat some point.
22:14.11MotiveLater today, sure
22:14.15eggyk
22:14.40depthsofchaosso who beat the campaign ?:o
22:15.00depthsofchaosfeels rly rly short :/
22:15.01onetwoi play toss
22:15.04eggyif somebody's already beat it, it must not be that long
22:15.16onetwoi won 3 games, lost to mass muta (i tried quick expand, ALMOSt worked), and then lost to mass stalkers
22:15.21onetwoplatinum players though
22:15.24depthsofchaoswell im at half already and took like 4 hours
22:15.27onetwoand got placed into silver
22:15.55Lazbrolost 3 placement matches, was about to win 2 matches when the game disconnected me
22:15.56Lazbrogrrrr
22:16.02Lazbrohi bronze -_-
22:16.15Lazbrooh well void ray time
22:16.36depthsofchaosyou people playing ladder on release day :p
22:16.46Lazbro[00:14]<depthsofchaos>so who beat the campaign ?:o --- that short?
22:16.48Lazbro:(
22:17.15onetwowell my assumption was
22:17.19onetwonon beta players would get the game
22:17.22onetwoi guess i was wrong
22:17.22onetwohaah
22:17.27Lazbro-_-
22:17.36LazbroYeah people have if anything gotten stronger
22:17.39onetwototally
22:17.42nicoli_sdo maps you play online still go into your cache? or are they client side now?
22:17.56onetwotheyll never be clientside
22:17.59onetwoi could be wrong
22:18.02onetwobut why would they change it?
22:18.07depthsofchaosdid anyone test map locking?
22:18.10*** join/#sc2mapster Phaos (~Rorax@203.160.116.94)
22:18.14onetwomine is locked and public
22:18.15nicoli_swell in one of the last patches they added all the maps in the patch
22:18.19onetwowell i hope it is
22:18.20nicoli_swasnt sure if retail was like that or not
22:18.23onetwobecause i set it to v1.0
22:18.27onetwoand it went on the list as v0.1
22:18.33depthsofchaosmine too
22:18.36Phaossup guis
22:18.38depthsofchaosyou sure its locked ?:o
22:18.46onetwoi know i pressed locked
22:18.53onetwoand i did join people playing it
22:18.56onetwoso its public
22:19.05depthsofchaosi mean did you try opening it
22:19.35*** join/#sc2mapster art[] (~art@adsl-99-35-13-157.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net)
22:20.19Lazbroand ofc you have those retarded matches where you make a terran mech army and he has only zerglings, parked immediately next to my watchtower. I kill them and he makes 2 more zerglings and sends them to my base. Then quits when those die.
22:20.57Lazbroand instead of a queen he had
22:21.00Lazbro5 hatcheries.
22:21.03onetwoyeah
22:21.08onetwoi realized both of my losses were stupid
22:21.15onetwobut thats the difference between whitera and me
22:21.18onetwohe'll scout 24/7
22:21.20onetwoknow exactly what to do
22:21.24onetwoand stop those stupid losses
22:21.29Lazbrohow the frack do you scout with zerg anyway?
22:21.36onetwono idea im toss
22:21.48Lazbroby the time your ovie gets to the other base he's got battlecruisers
22:21.52depthsofchaosoverlord :O
22:22.01onetwothe thing is, until you reach plat or diamond
22:22.03onetwoatleast in phase 1
22:22.07onetwoyou deal with stupid cheese
22:22.08onetwostrats
22:22.12LazbroI don't :p
22:22.12onetwobarracks flying into your base
22:22.13onetwoetc
22:22.15Lazbrolol
22:22.17depthsofchaosoverlord + zerglings + changeling
22:22.19onetwoi stopped one of those today
22:22.20depthsofchaosquite easy
22:22.23AsaPhelpsi want to spire crawler rush zvz
22:22.24LazbroCC into your base and then PF :p
22:22.25*** join/#sc2mapster Xenrathe (474438e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.68.56.226)
22:22.26AsaPhelpsthink that'll work?
22:22.44Lazbrowhat league?
22:22.44depthsofchaosnope
22:22.47Lazbroif it's low enough they won't even notice :p
22:22.48depthsofchaosworst idea evar
22:22.54AsaPhelpsbronze
22:22.57AsaPhelpsor whatever is lowest
22:22.58Lazbrothen it works
22:23.07depthsofchaosit wont even work against the ai :p
22:23.16AsaPhelpsi got cannon rushed once but then i sent 6 lings into his base and he gg'ed
22:23.35XenratheBuild gateways in enemy base = win
22:23.40Lazbrothere was this guy who said it was his first game
22:23.48Lazbroso I thought 'let's not gateway rush him'
22:24.01Lazbroturned out he was proxying ME
22:24.04Lazbrogg
22:24.16depthsofchaoswhoever does not notice gateways has to be in bronze :o
22:24.28Lazbrohe SAID it was his first game
22:24.30Xenrathethere's some pretty sweet hideouts for them
22:24.39Lazbroso I could easily have gotten him with a proxy gate
22:24.42depthsofchaoswell in your base directly
22:24.43onetwothe players are REALLY good today
22:24.44onetwoso watch out
22:24.48onetwoits all beta pros
22:24.49Lazbrobut I didn't, wanted to make it a fair game
22:25.01LazbroHI THERE MARINES IN MY BASE
22:25.04Lazbro:(
22:25.15depthsofchaosbut ye proxy is anoying :o
22:25.16AsaPhelpsi never used roaches or banelings in  beta as zerg
22:25.21AsaPhelpsbut i was a terrible player to begin with
22:25.27Lazbroroaches are tanks for your hydras
22:25.29depthsofchaosproxy is for bad players to have good ranking
22:25.41Lazbrobanelings are fantastic vs marines or to bust supply depot walls
22:25.43*** join/#sc2mapster Computerpunk (~Computerp@95.76.177.207)
22:25.46AsaPhelpsproxy reapers are fun
22:25.47Lazbrodepthsofchaos: why?
22:25.55depthsofchaoscause it takes no skill?
22:26.02depthsofchaosyou jsut execute a learned build order every time
22:26.14depthsofchaosit either works or you fail
22:26.15LazbroI win :p
22:26.23Lazbrothe prob is
22:26.29Lazbrowhen it gets to endgame I might LOSE
22:26.35Lazbro:p
22:26.40art[]is the menu for the campaign a map?
22:26.45XenratheIf your proxy doesn't work, that doesn't mean you fail...
22:26.47Lazbrowe knew that lol
22:26.49Vail|Campaignwell folks im diving back into the campaign
22:26.50XenratheUnless you do it poorly
22:27.02Xenrathe(or you're bad at macro)
22:27.14LazbroXen: don't put your proxy directly IN the enemy base, put it on the direct path between the bases
22:27.20depthsofchaosif your opponent isnt an idiot youll loose :o from my experience
22:27.29Lazbroso instead of defending your ramp, you defend his base exit
22:27.55depthsofchaoswell maybe not with terran cause terran can win from anywhere :P
22:27.55Lazbrohmm I have to try that
22:28.11XenratheI usually win from proxy, even if it gets busted
22:28.11Lazbrothe map with the backdoor - steppes of war?
22:28.19Lazbropark my ass at the exit of his nat
22:28.24depthsofchaosyour league?
22:28.24Lazbrowall it off
22:28.28XenratheI was in Platinum
22:28.49depthsofchaosand your rank points?
22:29.00XenratheOh I forget, I wasn't that extreme
22:29.15Xenrathe1100ish?
22:29.19Lazbrok let's get back up to silver :p
22:29.34Lazbrowhy do you get a loss for disconnecting when you're winning -_-
22:29.54XenratheBecause that'd be cheap otherwise :P
22:30.00Xenratheyou could be winning but know you're going to lose soon
22:30.02Xenratheso you just d/c
22:31.07Lazbroanyone have a good toss opening? :)
22:31.13depthsofchaospylon
22:31.13LazbroXen: apology accepted
22:31.17Lazbro>_<
22:31.35XenratheSorry?
22:31.47Lazbro9 pylon 10 gateway... 12 gateway 12 gas? but I either run out of money or get supply blocked after 2 zealots :(
22:31.50LazbroXen: nm ;)
22:32.23AsaPhelpsdo people ever try mass queens
22:32.29Xenrathelol yes
22:32.39Lazbrothe other thing is, I seem to be forced to rush to council to get charge or else I get kited to death by everything, but when I do tech a lot of zerglings spill into my base JUST before the upgrade is done
22:32.40Xenrathesome people swear by the queen defense
22:32.46PhaosI love the warpig marine model
22:33.03AsaPhelpswhat if you make nothing but spires and queens
22:33.05AsaPhelpsand spores
22:33.13XenratheI usually just go for stalkers and FORCEFIELDS
22:34.11Xenrathe(aka best skill in game)
22:34.55Xenrathequeens are your AA
22:35.00Xenratheyou don't need spores
22:35.20XenratheI wouldn't recommend it though
22:35.32XenratheI had a couple people try to use it against me and it was never terribly effective
22:36.01onetwothe good thing is you can always get better
22:36.05onetwoas long as you have decent speed
22:36.11onetwoyoull slowly acquire game knowldge
22:36.15onetwoand cheese knowledge
22:36.19onetwoso you wont have dumb losses
22:36.37XenratheI get bored of melee honestly
22:36.40onetwofrom what ive found, scouting 24/7 is the biggest thing
22:36.42onetwoyou have to do
22:38.07XenratheI have a friend who's a high-ranked chessplayer and after talking to him
22:38.25XenratheI realized that the first step is basically memorizing all likely openings and other strategies
22:38.44Xenratheand SC2 melee eventually comes down to the same thing
22:39.39Xenrathethere are a great number of build orders and build strategies and once you memorize them all, it becomes a matter of identifying your opponents attack and then picking the proper response strategy
22:41.20allenmeloni can uninstall the beta now right?
22:43.05onetwoyeah
22:43.10onetwoexcatly xenrathe
22:43.13onetwobut you also need apm to keep it up
22:43.22onetwoi find i can do anything for first 5 mins
22:43.23Xenratheyes and you need to scout
22:43.26onetwothen once im in battle, managing base
22:43.29onetwoill forget a random probe somewhere
22:43.31onetwosmall things like that
22:43.39onetwothat take time to iron out
22:43.50onetwoi love melee but my main priority is mapping
22:43.59XenratheYeah; my point is that it really takes the romance out of it
22:44.01onetwoso who knows where itll go :D
22:44.22Xenrathewhen I learned that the great chess masters (first and foremost) memorized every possible strategy, I felt a bit let down
22:44.39XenratheThey do a lot of genius improvisation, but I realized that it's less genius and more WORK
22:44.50XenratheAnd in that way, I feel like SC2 melee is also less genius and more work
22:45.03AsaPhelpsdoes anyone know a program that can press a key very fast automatically
22:45.06XenratheI would prefer to make maps because then I have something to show for it
22:45.15Xenratheyes Asa, any type of macro program
22:45.17Xenrathequick macro
22:45.19AsaPhelpslike if i want to click f 100 times a second
22:45.20Xenrathefor example
22:45.58*** part/#sc2mapster PoC (~PoC@173.216.91.45)
22:46.45*** join/#sc2mapster Motive_ (~motive@c-68-39-176-236.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
22:47.40XenratheI feel kinda bad but sometimes when I read through the map development forum
22:47.47XenratheI'll come across a thread that's asking something really basic
22:48.01Xenratheand I won't answer because I don't think that person could ever possibly make a good map
22:49.26*** join/#sc2mapster Motive_ (~motive@c-68-39-176-236.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
22:50.06onetwoyeah Xenrathe i agree
22:50.09onetwoabout melee
22:50.11onetwovs mapmaking
22:50.17onetwoand to your 2nd point
22:50.19onetwothats why i make tutorials
22:50.25onetwocause i was a noob 6 years ago in war 3
22:50.43*** join/#sc2mapster FireryRage (~FireryRag@129-97-120-67.uwaterloo.ca)
22:50.53XenratheTrue but sometimes I believe that the person doesn't have enough innate aptitude to really go that far
22:51.00onetwototally
22:51.02onetwoagree
22:52.21XenratheAlso I'm totally biased against people who write poorly
22:52.52ekcolnvkol:O
22:53.26XenratheAlso I think someone stole my copy of SC2
22:54.24ekcolnovkolhey 12
22:54.30ekcolnovkoldo you remember if we had to close banks after opening them
22:54.45ekcolnovkoli vaguely remember a "close bank" function
22:55.06ekcolnovkolah it's called remove bank now
22:55.34XenratheSpeaking of, I really should learn to use banks!
22:55.42XenratheHey ek, you work on Sotis don't you?
22:55.49ekcolnovkolof course
22:56.06XenratheHow do you guys do hero death / revive?
22:56.22ekcolnovkoli wrote a one-line tutorial on that in the forums
22:56.27XenratheAs I recall there was some angst about the native revive not working correctly, does it now?
22:56.41ekcolnovkoli dunno, ever since i perfected my system, i haven't had to look into it
22:56.53XenratheHmm I'm curious whether we have the same solution
22:57.05ekcolnovkolwhat are you doing now?
22:57.31XenratheWell... have you ever played Final Fantasy Tactics?
22:57.48ekcolnovkoli <3 that game
22:58.00XenratheGood because Starcraft Tactics is based on it
22:58.05ekcolnovkolbut a friend of mine stole it
22:58.14ekcolnovkoland it has left a deep ravine in my heart
22:58.16ekcolnovkolever since
22:58.16ekcolnovkol:(
22:58.22ekcolnovkolweeps
22:58.25XenratheIf you'll recall, when a unit dies, players have like 3 turns or so
22:58.26Xenratheto revive them
22:58.29Xenratheotherwise they decay
22:58.32ekcolnovkolmhm
22:58.39XenratheSo I want the same thing
22:58.43XenratheSo how I did that was:
22:58.57XenratheEvery unit has a behavior called Living, which has a fatal damage response
22:59.16Xenrathethe damage response modified damage fraction to 0 and causes an effect called Die
22:59.28XenratheDie is an Issue Order effect which makes the unit use a blank ability called Die
22:59.36XenratheThen I use triggers to detect when an ability uses Die
22:59.38ekcolnovkolsounds on track so far
22:59.41Xenratheand I make them go into fake death
23:00.02ekcolnovkolthat would work
23:00.14Xenratheand also I detect (in the actor's events) when they use the Die ability and make them model swap with their death model
23:00.21XenratheIndeed it does
23:00.32XenratheThough I had this weird issue at one point where if a unit was 'killed' and then revived
23:00.45Xenratheany new attacks against the unit would cause the attacking unit to immediately Die
23:01.09ekcolnovkolx.X
23:01.13XenratheHad to change one of the fields in the effect from Caster to Source
23:01.18ekcolnovkollmao
23:01.39XenratheWas very weird
23:01.48ekcolnovkolso what are you asking
23:01.55Unrea1Unreal.190
23:02.01Unrea1^
23:02.07XenratheI was just curious about whether the native revive stuff was working
23:02.12Xenrathe(or not)
23:02.24ekcolnovkoli don't believe it's intended for that purpose, so probably not
23:03.46XenratheWell yeah, I've had to write an engine within an engine basically :O
23:04.13XenratheBut I like to keep abreast of what is going on with other maps, for when I am finally free to work on a new project
23:04.37ekcolnovkolheh
23:04.57ekcolnovkoli believe my map is the most developed thus far
23:05.09ekcolnovkoland battlecraft is perhaps the most complete
23:06.14AsaPhelpswhich one is battlecraft
23:08.29Xenrathebattlecraft is the (2v2 is it still?) map where you are in a +
23:08.45Xenratheand you select groups of units which attack the opponent you are facing
23:08.53Xenrathewhile your ally attacks on a perpendicular plane
23:08.56onetwosorry was afk
23:08.59onetwoeckolnovkol i forget banks
23:09.02onetwoi dont know if i ever close mine
23:09.08onetwoand Xenrahte
23:09.18onetwoi did a hero revival tutorial
23:09.25onetwoon my youtube page you can find it
23:09.37*** join/#sc2mapster FireryRage (~FireryRag@129-97-120-67.uwaterloo.ca)
23:10.23ekcolnovkoli'm getting mixed bank values
23:10.46*** join/#sc2mapster RedWraith (~daviddavi@ip98-164-199-113.oc.oc.cox.net)
23:10.59RedWraithDoes anyone know where I could find a list
23:11.02RedWraithof unlockable portraits?
23:11.05RedWraithfor sc2
23:11.09ekcolnovkoleditor
23:11.17RedWraithI mean online
23:11.25depthsofchaosbnet rewards
23:11.36depthsofchaosachievements/revards i guess
23:11.46RedWraithWhere's that?
23:13.46depthsofchaosbnet main window
23:14.16depthsofchaosoh i love jim raynor and his "you just dropped the soap in a the prison" stare
23:14.18RedWraithnm found it
23:14.22RedWraithhttp://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Portrait
23:14.26*** join/#sc2mapster s3rius (5c48c6ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.72.198.255)
23:14.58*** join/#sc2mapster ProzaicMuze (~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net)
23:15.12depthsofchaosim aiming for the human kerrigan :o
23:15.15depthsofchaosthat looks the best
23:15.16ProzaicMuzeStupid stupid stupid
23:15.22ProzaicMuzeLET ME PATCH GAH!
23:16.10*** join/#sc2mapster AsaPhelps (~asaphelps@pool-141-154-125-112.bos.east.verizon.net)
23:17.45*** join/#sc2mapster GreenDemon (cedec60c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.206.222.198.12)
23:17.48XenratheHello Prozaic, I was just reading one of your tutorials!
23:17.58ProzaicMuzeCool beans :)
23:18.16ProzaicMuzeDid you need help with something in particular or just commenting?
23:18.38XenratheJust commenting although I may have a question... let me see how I actually designed this
23:19.53AsaPhelpswho's familar with quick macro?
23:20.06ProzaicMuzelol mmk Xen :)
23:21.02XenratheI am Asa
23:21.13XenratheWell strange I don't know why I did that but I'm sure I had a good reason
23:21.27XenratheDo you know of any way to make a flying unit stay at the same height regardless of the terrain beneath it?
23:21.38Phaoshas anyone got the terrain objects to show up properly ?
23:21.58casperbAnyone on EU Server?
23:22.01casperbServer bugged?
23:22.09ProzaicMuzeI think it's height is based upon it's collision.  If you removed it's AI you "might" be able to prevent it from movign up and down with the terrain.
23:22.12ProzaicMuzeIt's just an idea though.
23:22.18ProzaicMuzeI can't confirm until I get my patcher working :(
23:22.29XenratheReally hmm, didn't think AI would have anything to do with it
23:23.11Sixenlmao
23:23.17SixenThey have a Diablo unit in the Campaign data
23:23.25Phaosyerr
23:23.36Phaoshe has no animations tho
23:23.39Phaosapart from the stand ones
23:25.18ProzaicMuzeWell AI is related to pathing.  If you remove AI, units will travel in a straight line without checking to see if they can actually reach their destination.  Someone used this to make units travel in the direction you clicked even if the area was blocked (walled ramps for an example)
23:25.36ProzaicMuzeSo it's just a hunch that this might also account for units moving in relation to terrain elevation.
23:25.55ProzaicMuzeHowever it could simply be hardcoded :(
23:26.17XenratheWell then a second question that you may know
23:26.30Xenrathewould a projectile mover ignore that?
23:27.15s3riusDoh? AI and pathing are two pretty different things
23:28.00s3riusThe intention when making a AI is to let the computer behave human. While pathfinding is nothing more than a "simple" algorithm to determine the fastest route.
23:29.16ProzaicMuzeI think so.  There is a checkbox for ignoring terrain.
23:29.31allenmelonekcolnovkol: did you get your sotis map up on na servers yet?
23:29.32ProzaicMuzeSo with a custom mover you might be able to achieve what you want.
23:30.29allenmelonalright, challenge time
23:30.37ProzaicMuzeMmk, this is for everyone in the channel
23:30.45ProzaicMuzeI need you all to brainstorm with me why my patcher isn't working
23:30.52ProzaicMuzeIf you can help me figure it out
23:31.00ProzaicMuzeI'll put out 1-3 tutorials tonight
23:31.09ProzaicMuzeDepending on how much time I have left after figuring out the problem.
23:31.23XenratheWhat's it doing?
23:31.33ProzaicMuzeFor both the Game and the Editor:
23:32.16ProzaicMuzeStart program > Dialog Box stating there is a patch I need to apply "Do you want to do so now?" > Click Ok >  Program closes, no patcher box shows up > Program attemps to open again > Endless Loop
23:32.34ProzaicMuzeThe patching tool says there is no patch to apply
23:32.41ProzaicMuzeThe downloader tool says there is no patch to download
23:32.46ProzaicMuzeBut everyone wants a patch in order to work.
23:32.56AsaPhelpsstill no luck muze?
23:33.02ProzaicMuzeEverything*
23:33.03ProzaicMuzenope :(
23:33.08ekcolnovkoluh
23:33.08*** join/#sc2mapster Bifuu|X (~Bifuu@cpe-071-077-145-012.nc.res.rr.com)
23:33.12ekcolnovkoli can't find any of the new models in the editor
23:33.13ProzaicMuzeI'm up to the double digits for reinstalls
23:33.15ekcolnovkolwhat the hell?
23:33.16Xenrathedid you uninstall beta first?  maybe the registry is telling the patcher that SC2 is located in a different director
23:33.22ProzaicMuzeEkco, you need to add the dependencies.
23:33.24Xenrathe*directory
23:33.27ProzaicMuzeYep, I have it uninstalled
23:33.29ekcolnovkolwhere do i get them
23:33.31*** join/#sc2mapster Azu (4@78-70-210-140-no156.tbcn.telia.com)
23:33.31ProzaicMuzeThat's why I can't use the editor atm.
23:33.38ProzaicMuzeThe game's install folder
23:33.50ProzaicMuzeYou just need to add the campaign dependencies to the list of archives
23:33.54AsaPhelpsare you using a boxed copy muze
23:33.59ekcolnovkolhow do i do that
23:33.59RodOfSC2ProzaicMuze u still can run the game?
23:34.07ProzaicMuzeI don't know the exact steps (because I haven't done it yet), but I think there is a guide on the site
23:34.12ProzaicMuze@Asa - no it's the digital download
23:34.13ekcolnovkol"Dependeices" is greyed out
23:34.34ProzaicMuze@Rod - nope, both require me to patch before I can do anything. So I can't get into the game, but the editor fully loads before it locks itself and demands a patch.
23:34.51RodOfSC2has anyone got digital to work in the US?
23:34.57ProzaicMuzeOnetwo did
23:35.02RodOfSC2k
23:35.08ProzaicMuzeAnd some other folks
23:35.12RodOfSC2imaybe i should go buy a copy in case it fucks up
23:35.24ProzaicMuzeAlmost everyone who has the digital had no issues patching
23:35.29RodOfSC2k
23:35.31ProzaicMuzeI just have an issue for whatever reason.
23:35.47ProzaicMuzeNobody else I've spoken to has had this problem and I can't find a post in any type of forum with similar issues :(
23:35.52ProzaicMuzeBlizzard hates me Xp
23:36.03XenratheMaybe Windows user control is blocking it somehow?
23:36.14ProzaicMuzeI have it disabled
23:36.19Xenrathe*rubs chin*
23:36.25ProzaicMuzeAnd as such don't need to run as administrator.
23:36.51Xenratheyou're starting SC2 and its asking you to apply the patch?
23:36.56Xenratheor you're running the patch?
23:37.00ProzaicMuzeOh, as reference: I never had issues with Beta patches and I'm using 64-bit Vista
23:37.06ProzaicMuzeall of the above
23:37.21ProzaicMuzestarting the game or the editor prompts it to ask for a patch
23:37.31ProzaicMuzerunning the downloader says there is no patch
23:37.36ProzaicMuzerunning the patcher says there is no patch
23:37.38Xenrathedid you try deleting the patch?
23:37.43ProzaicMuzeThere isn't one to delete.
23:39.06XenratheSo you never downloaded the patch?
23:39.55ProzaicMuzeNope
23:40.13XenratheMaybe you can find it somewhere and manually download it
23:40.14ProzaicMuzeI installed and when it finished it didn't show patch notes or finished or anything
23:40.17ProzaicMuzeJust the Play button
23:40.23ProzaicMuzeI've looked, but so far haven't found one
23:40.43ProzaicMuzeAlso it's 250mb, so most people aren't able to upload it to a place I could easily download it from :(
23:41.10Xenrathethat must be frustrating
23:41.10Xenrathelol
23:43.11Xenrathehttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/106470789
23:43.15Xenrathebut that's probably too basic for you
23:45.03Xenrathehttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/145934647
23:45.55Xenrathehttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/106470673
23:49.46XenrathePeople say rebooting in safe mode w/ internet works sometimes
23:51.50ekcolnovkolbattle net is down
23:51.55ekcolnovkollawd
23:52.08Unrea1NA is up?
23:52.23ekcolnovkolhuh?
23:52.35Unrea1Battle net is still up
23:52.43ekcolnovkolwell the publishing system says Gateway Down
23:53.08Unrea1Publishing is always screwed up lol

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.