IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20100717

`00:00.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`00:00.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that's gonna be icky`
`00:00.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm handy with photoshop, but it's currently editing pictures`
`00:00.29`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DPS\|prodiG (~awesome@S0106001fc682065b.ed.shawcable.net)`
`00:00.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`if you send me a PM on the site with details I can work something out for yeh.`
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`00:01.19`	`depthsofchaos`	`well all the restrictions are that i needs a note area and it has to be related to netstrom :p`
`00:01.34`	`depthsofchaos`	`would be nice if you could do it :p`
`00:01.44`	`depthsofchaos`	`id even give you an sc2 beta key`
`00:02.01`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`what do you need exactly?`
`00:02.08`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`like`
`00:02.12`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`"need a note area"`
`00:02.14`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`what does that mean?`
`00:02.20`	`onetwo`	`waits until prozaic does his then wins depths over at the last second`
`00:02.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`psh`
`00:02.42`	`depthsofchaos`	`where i can put the loading info`
`00:02.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I am epic pro with photoshop!`
`00:02.56`	`depthsofchaos`	`you know the patchnotes`
`00:02.58`	`depthsofchaos`	`and stuff`
`00:03.03`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`So like a clear area for it?`
`00:03.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Because it could just go over the image anyways`
`00:03.15`	`depthsofchaos`	`yep like in a small outlined area`
`00:03.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you want a content box in the BG, essentially`
`00:03.30`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`well`
`00:03.31`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`hmm`
`00:03.37`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`How do loading screens work resolution wise?`
`00:03.47`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xJ4eL3X1rc&feature=related`
`00:03.47`	`depthsofchaos`	`good question`
`00:04.00`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`The guy who did uhm`
`00:04.03`	`depthsofchaos`	`the more important thing is how big is a loading sceen in size`
`00:04.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`depths, PM me details: size, theme, reference images, required text (do you want designer names with custom font), colors etc`
`00:04.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Bibendus, does Crush Company have a custom loading screen image`
`00:04.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Anything and everyhting you think might help me make it moar ahsumer`
`00:04.42`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`theme:netstorm`
`00:04.56`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`reference images: netstorm related ones.`
`00:05.02`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`required text: probably "netstorm"`
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`00:05.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`deltoid`
`00:05.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`shush`
`00:06.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Which reminds me, is it possible to take the water model and use it in an actor model?`
`00:06.39`	`depthsofchaos`	`i guess a loading image is near 1mb omg :/`
`00:06.51`	`goomba_`	`what is the hotkey for soft selection`
`00:06.53`	`goomba_`	`i keep hitting it`
`00:07.06`	`depthsofchaos`	`no clue`
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`00:07.58`	`RedWraith`	`suuupp guuuuuys`
`00:08.34`	`wOlfLinG`	`suuupp reeeeeed`
`00:08.58`	`LordAbyss`	`hey proz there is a problem when you ask questions, you are usually the person WE go too haha`
`00:08.59`	`wOlfLinG`	`Also, my RPG is coming along nicely :D`
`00:09.38`	`wOlfLinG`	`Especially when its actor related xD`
`00:10.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`bah`
`00:10.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you gais suk!`
`00:10.20`	`depthsofchaos`	`you want a rolling toilet right?`
`00:10.28`	`goomba_`	`ni hao`
`00:10.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`exactly`
`00:10.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`with sideways water and everything :D`
`00:10.34`	`Firefly_`	`hmm i think this sc editor driving me insane... bye XD`
`00:10.49`	`goomba_`	`get the water to spiral`
`00:10.54`	`goomba_`	`like its flushing`
`00:12.50`	`goomba_`	`how many polys do fairly basic models use, in the ballpark number`
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`00:13.05`	`greg`	`yay internet works again`
`00:13.06`	`Vailreth`	`i dont think its possible to use water as an actor i think its too tied to the terrain ..`
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`00:21.04`	`RedWraith`	`ProzaicMuze, are you going to put the toilet on a rotating sphere`
`00:21.10`	`RedWraith`	`and then tell me the direction the water goes?`
`00:21.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`00:21.36`	`greg`	`anyone know how to make the build animation match the time`
`00:21.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes. . . based on the direction of swirl it gives your location on the map`
`00:22.00`	`greg`	`when you lower the build time of a spawning pool from 65 seconds to, say, 10, it no longer has a good portion of the animation such as the explosion effect afterwards`
`00:22.09`	`greg`	`it seems like it's only playing the first 10 seconds of the build animation`
`00:22.19`	`onetwo`	`Prozaic, the parasite DOT wasnt registering as the player who planted it`
`00:22.20`	`greg`	`rather than speeding up the 65 second one in to 10 seconds`
`00:22.20`	`onetwo`	`when it killed`
`00:22.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'll it the toicompasslet`
`00:22.27`	`onetwo`	`would that be an issue with Behavior - Player field?`
`00:22.31`	`onetwo`	`its empty atm`
`00:22.41`	`RedWraith`	`I see.`
`00:22.45`	`RedWraith`	`I'll it it too.`
`00:22.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`call*`
`00:22.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`erm`
`00:23.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So it's not giving credit for the kill?`
`00:23.15`	`onetwo`	`the damage over time is giving points`
`00:23.18`	`onetwo`	`but when you die as parasite`
`00:23.24`	`onetwo`	`it still gives points but if it kills the unit`
`00:23.32`	`onetwo`	`you dont seee "XX player has infected YY"`
`00:23.35`	`onetwo`	`that usually happens`
`00:23.38`	`onetwo`	`when you kill a survivor`
`00:23.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`do you have notification on the effect??`
`00:23.46`	`onetwo`	`hmm`
`00:23.57`	`onetwo`	`okay it does now`
`00:23.59`	`onetwo`	`would that be it?`
`00:24.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`but for serious about the water. I want to make a "portal" that uses the ripply water`
`00:24.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Wondering if the water is a model or not.`
`00:24.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Try it and see`
`00:24.18`	`onetwo`	`k`
`00:24.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`My understanding is notification allows kill credit.`
`00:24.27`	`onetwo`	`k`
`00:24.44`	`onetwo`	`FieldParasitic Acid Stats - Kill Credit +e_effectUnitUnknown`
`00:24.49`	`onetwo`	`the behavior right now has no kill credit field`
`00:24.59`	`onetwo`	`should i set this to the damag effect that it periodically does?`
`00:25.17`	`onetwo`	`fungal growth doesnt`
`00:25.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Test the notifaction first`
`00:25.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`if that deosn't work THEN try something else`
`00:25.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Never stack multiple bug checks`
`00:25.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`notification*`
`00:25.45`	`onetwo`	`kk`
`00:27.16`	`greg`	`prozaizmuze: do you know how to get the explosion effect to play at the end of creating a zerg building for fast build times?`
`00:27.30`	`Corbo`	`did anyone ever figure out how to use videos as textures?`
`00:27.34`	`greg`	`if i make the time to build 65 seconds it plays but when i set it to 10 the explosion at the end no longer plays =/`
`00:28.02`	`goomba_`	`ok so how do i set my current selection to a polygon material id`
`00:28.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`THat "burst" lookin' thing?`
`00:28.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I think fast build turns it off lol`
`00:29.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm not entirely sure, I haven't used fast build for structures.`
`00:29.05`	`greg`	`can you override that?`
`00:29.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Probably`
`00:29.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You can link an actor to the construction finishing manually`
`00:29.23`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`meow`
`00:29.51`	`greg`	`i remember seeing a checkbox for fast build`
`00:29.55`	`greg`	`but now i can't find it`
`00:29.59`	`greg`	`would unchecking that fix it?`
`00:30.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`gah, photoshop really bugs me sometimes.`
`00:30.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I have obscene amounts of space and ram with regards to editing pictures, but randomly I'll start lagging my commands by about 1 sec`
`00:31.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`And there is no way to fix it without closing the program`
`00:31.04`	`greg`	`try gimp or paint .net?`
`00:31.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Gimp is trash and paint is garbage`
`00:31.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The two belong together. . . in a landfill`
`00:31.36`	`greg`	`yeah i prefer photoshop myself`
`00:31.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Greg - It might, but I think you'd have to chagne the build time again.`
`00:31.58`	`greg`	`lol i cannot find this fast build option.. i remember seeing it so often now i can't find it`
`00:32.18`	`goomba_`	`i found a sixen on the new forums`
`00:32.19`	`goomba_`	`lurking`
`00:32.28`	`goomba_`	`the new bnet forums`
`00:33.12`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`00:33.21`	`onetwo`	`i wonder if i can make survivors attack andmove at the same time`
`00:33.23`	`onetwo`	`like a phoenix`
`00:33.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You can`
`00:33.29`	`onetwo`	`theres a weapon type called strafe`
`00:33.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`no`
`00:33.34`	`onetwo`	`oh wait, theres a flag for Move`
`00:33.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`don't use that`
`00:33.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`yeah`
`00:33.43`	`onetwo`	`is that all id have to set?`
`00:33.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that and no deceleration`
`00:34.07`	`onetwo`	`so with that, your guy could move and you could keep ordering him to move`
`00:34.11`	`onetwo`	`and as long as original attack target`
`00:34.12`	`onetwo`	`was in range`
`00:34.14`	`onetwo`	`hed keep shooting`
`00:34.15`	`onetwo`	`?`
`00:34.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I think so`
`00:34.23`	`onetwo`	`hmm`
`00:34.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you've disabled auto-attack so I'm not sure`
`00:34.27`	`onetwo`	`maybe better not mess around`
`00:34.30`	`Corbo`	`D:`
`00:34.34`	`Corbo`	`I smell garlic bread`
`00:34.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`00:34.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`just try it once`
`00:34.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`if it doesn't work, change the fields back`
`00:34.42`	`Corbo`	`I want garlic bread`
`00:34.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`easy to do`
`00:34.44`	`egodbout`	`is there a way to fix the blue background from patch on Screen ID button?`
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`00:36.19`	`greg`	`anyone know where the fast build option is'`
`00:37.41`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`meow`
`00:38.06`	`SleepingKitten`	`nn all`
`00:38.15`	`SleepingKitten`	`meyawn`
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`00:41.32`	`greg`	`prozaicmuze: i tried what you suggested earlier with the modify player effect but i do not get increased resource gain =?`
`00:42.12`	`rrowland`	`Did the beta go down already?`
`00:42.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`how do you have the effect setup, greg?`
`00:42.41`	`greg`	`Ability (Effect Target) -> Effect (Create Persistent) -> Effect (Initial) [Bonus Resources Effect] & ExpireDelay = 40`
`00:43.30`	`greg`	`Bonus Resources is an Effect of type Modify Player with Effect - Resources as the only set field with that being Minerals = 5`
`00:45.08`	`Corbo`	`k bai`
`00:45.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol give me a SS, I think I see the problem, but a picture will confirm`
`00:45.39`	`greg`	`ok i'll make a neato collage give me a second`
`00:52.09`	`greg`	`prozaicmuze: http://imgur.com/6v5a0.png`
`00:55.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`00:55.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`mmk`
`00:55.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`first`
`00:55.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`hover over the expire delay field to see what it does`
`00:56.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`2nd, you currently have it setup to give you 5 resources at the start`
`00:56.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and then take away 5 resources when it finishes`
`00:56.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the result is you gain 5mins then lose 5mins`
`00:56.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It doesn't affect your gather rate or yield rate.`
`00:57.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Ability > Behavior - Buff > Effect`
`00:57.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`That's all you need`
`00:57.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The buff has the duration`
`00:57.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and it triggers the effect whenever resources are dropped off.`
`00:57.55`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The effect is a one time event and you want it to have bonus resources set to 5`
`00:58.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So the idea is every time resources are dropped off, the effect triggers once and gives you 5 more resources`
`00:58.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`make sense?`
`00:59.18`	`greg`	`yuppers`
`00:59.27`	`greg`	`i'll try it all now`
`00:59.58`	`greg`	`wait`
`01:00.04`	`greg`	`oh ok nevermind`
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`01:02.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`gah gotta reset my computer`
`01:02.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`my memory is leaking for some bizarre reason`
`01:02.32`	`LordAbyss`	`just don't burn it`
`01:03.10`	`greg`	`bizarre`
`01:03.13`	`greg`	`blizarre`
`01:03.14`	`greg`	`blizzard`
`01:03.16`	`greg`	`=O`
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`01:07.02`	`Ashamed`	`I hate it when shit goes wrong with internet ordering`
`01:08.30`	`goomba_`	`@depthsofchaos`
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`01:10.12`	`egodbout`	`buy my map for 0.10c American`
`01:10.29`	`Ashamed`	`stfu`
`01:10.32`	`Ashamed`	`YOU GET SUED`
`01:10.36`	`Ashamed`	`BLIZZARD SUED`
`01:11.01`	`Ashamed`	`unless they give you the .10 :)`
`01:11.09`	`egodbout`	`they will`
`01:11.20`	`egodbout`	`marketplace`
`01:12.01`	`Azkit`	`wait wait... 0.10c, does that mean a tenth of a cent? o.o`
`01:12.06`	`egodbout`	`100 000 Downloads = 1000$`
`01:12.22`	`egodbout`	`1 000 000 download = 10 000$`
`01:13.23`	`Azkit`	`I think you're being optimistic if you expect 100,000 downloads though. o.o`
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`01:13.41`	`egodbout`	`100 000 , i will`
`01:13.47`	`egodbout`	`1 million, i dont think`
`01:14.21`	`Azkit`	`What is your map?`
`01:14.38`	`egodbout`	`Diablo: Tristram RPG`
`01:14.48`	`Dustin`	`Im surprised no-one has made a lurker unit`
`01:14.52`	`Azkit`	`ah, think I read about it on the forums.`
`01:15.03`	`Azkit`	`I have a Lurker unit in my map.`
`01:15.20`	`Dustin`	`Does it work like the old lurker`
`01:15.22`	`Azkit`	`It's using the vulture critter model until the 27th comes out and I can get a real Lurker.`
`01:15.53`	`Azkit`	`No, it's just called "Lurker" and doesn't do anything atm since I didn't wanna bother until the 27th and I can get the real deal.`
`01:16.18`	`Dustin`	`I meant someone code a Lurker :P`
`01:16.31`	`Azkit`	`Blizzard coded the Lurker. XD`
`01:16.53`	`Azkit`	`The spine attack animation would probably be a pain, I'd imagine.`
`01:17.23`	`Dustin`	`Nah just get a spine crawler stuck straight up`
`01:17.33`	`Dustin`	`then raise/lower it's height :P`
`01:17.44`	`Dustin`	`I think it'd look cool`
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`01:18.54`	`Azkit`	`Without custom modeling, can you rotate models along the x- or y-axis?`
`01:19.05`	`AsaPhelps`	`isn't the spine attack already in game`
`01:19.15`	`goomba_`	`with hosting site operations azkit`
`01:19.27`	`goomba_`	`i think theres a tutorial thing in the forums`
`01:19.37`	`Azkit`	`What about them, goomba?`
`01:19.43`	`goomba_`	`use them`
`01:19.56`	`goomba_`	`duplicate the sop180 actor`
`01:20.03`	`goomba_`	`edit the things`
`01:20.09`	`goomba_`	`assign sop180b to x model`
`01:20.12`	`goomba_`	`soemthing like that`
`01:20.50`	`egodbout`	`how this guys haver a forum for his map, the guys final fantasy 13 map lol`
`01:20.59`	`egodbout`	`i want a forum to`
`01:21.20`	`Azkit`	`I haven't personally looked into attachments, other than missiles much, I just recall reading a thread where people were struggling with getting x-/y- rotations. z-rotations are easy enough since z- rotations are just facing.`
`01:21.22`	`goomba_`	`anyone good with textures + uvw in 3ds max`
`01:21.44`	`goomba_`	`nono its not an attachment`
`01:22.04`	`Azkit`	`you're right, attachment was the wrong word, just not sure what to call it. :p`
`01:22.18`	`goomba_`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4284-data-working-with-hosting-and-site-operations-the-uberlisk/#posts`
`01:22.25`	`goomba_`	`just read the part of this`
`01:22.28`	`goomba_`	`about operations`
`01:22.34`	`goomba_`	`its really useful`
`01:22.51`	`goomba_`	`you want explicit rotations`
`01:24.33`	`Azkit`	`I'm not seeing anything about rotations in the site op actor section. :/`
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`01:25.35`	`goomba_`	`hey its muze now`
`01:25.43`	`goomba_`	`im sure hed love to explain it to you`
`01:25.44`	`goomba_`	`xD`
`01:25.55`	`Azkit`	`That's because I didn't read the "basics" section. :p`
`01:26.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`hrm?`
`01:27.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`what am I asplainin'?`
`01:27.16`	`goomba_`	`he was having trouble with hosting site operations/3d rotations`
`01:27.57`	`Azkit`	`Wasn't me, it was a theoritical "has anyone built the lurker" topic.`
`01:28.16`	`Azkit`	`I was saying it might be difficult creating the attack animation for the lurker.`
`01:28.36`	`goomba_`	`oh`
`01:28.44`	`goomba_`	`i dont know why you would spend time making one`
`01:28.51`	`goomba_`	`when there will be one by default in the editor in 11 days`
`01:28.54`	`greg`	`prozzzzz it didn't workkkk`
`01:28.58`	`Azkit`	`When it's coming out on the 27th, that's what I said. :p`
`01:29.09`	`goomba_`	`word`
`01:29.19`	`greg`	`i couldn't figure out how to get an ability to go to an effect so i added an apply behavior in between the two but it still doesn't work`
`01:29.22`	`Azkit`	`I do have a Lurker in my game, but it's just a critter (temporarily) until the 27th comes out.`
`01:29.47`	`greg`	`ability to go to a behavior*********`
`01:30.20`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`anyone know how to get obs in a custom`
`01:30.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`huh?`
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`01:30.25`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`apparently it doesn't work by default`
`01:30.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you don't know how to make an ability go to an effect?`
`01:31.04`	`greg`	`behavior*****************`
`01:31.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`yeah`
`01:32.32`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`DOes anyone know how to create a custom game that allows obs`
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`01:36.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Ahh`
`01:36.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`mmk`
`01:36.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`yeah`
`01:36.34`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`No one?`
`01:36.42`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Weren't like 20 people doing heavy team related shit a while ago?`
`01:36.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Ability > Effect - Apply Behavior > Behavior - Buff > Effect - Modify Player`
`01:37.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`no clue deltoid, I haven't explored that part of the editor yet./`
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`01:37.14`	`Phaos`	`nurp`
`01:37.32`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Phaos, you know anything about how to edit the lobby`
`01:39.01`	`greg`	`prozaic that is exactlyyyy what i have`
`01:39.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`mmk, one moment then`
`01:39.17`	`greg`	`ok!`
`01:41.24`	`Phaos`	`uh lobby editing is all done in the....`
`01:41.34`	`Phaos`	`brain death lemme load the editor`
`01:41.43`	`Phaos`	`just woke up`
`01:43.03`	`Dustin`	`Game Variants?`
`01:43.21`	`Dustin`	`That should control the lobby`
`01:43.58`	`Phaos`	`P_R_Deltoid it's either game variants or attributes in the "maps" section`
`01:44.07`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh yeah, game varients, I think`
`01:44.49`	`Azkit`	`Why is map design so difficult for me? Swear I've been trying to design this map for hours, including several re-writes as the previous map design wasn't working for one reason or another..`
`01:45.34`	`goomba_`	`this uvw map stuff is kicking my ass`
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`02:00.47`	`egodbout`	`anyone know a good casting speed global CD formula by chance?`
`02:01.45`	`Triceron`	`goomba, what program?`
`02:01.47`	`Triceron`	`max?`
`02:02.16`	`Triceron`	`if you can, get your hands on a UVing program like UV Layout or Roadkill. It'll prolly be easier for you.`
`02:02.27`	`Triceron`	`UV Layout especially`
`02:04.05`	`goomba_`	`3ds max yeah`
`02:04.20`	`goomba_`	`the thing is its splitting my model into little teeny bits`
`02:04.36`	`goomba_`	`that are impossible to clarify which parts it belongs to`
`02:05.44`	`Triceron`	`it helps if you have a checkerboard texture applied to it`
`02:05.48`	`Triceron`	`with color code`
`02:05.53`	`Triceron`	`lemme see if I can find one`
`02:06.34`	`goomba_`	`i tried isolating everything into id groups or w/e and coloring them separately`
`02:06.37`	`goomba_`	`but that was confusing lol`
`02:06.40`	`Triceron`	`http://eric3d.com/downloads/UV_mapper.jpg`
`02:06.56`	`Triceron`	`apply that and it should help figuring what is where`
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`02:11.36`	`Phaos`	`oh man goomba uvs are hard to teach without a video`
`02:11.39`	`Phaos`	`youtube i would say`
`02:11.45`	`goomba_`	`tried some`
`02:11.57`	`goomba_`	`if i could just find out which piece goes where`
`02:11.58`	`Phaos`	`Triceron! I need YOU`
`02:12.00`	`goomba_`	`id be fine`
`02:12.24`	`Phaos`	`NiNs material settings are kickign my ass, chaos asked you yesterday about emissives for me. but now it's a new problem`
`02:12.49`	`Phaos`	`the specular map I make, (even testing using one of blizzards) makes the whole model glow like crazy`
`02:13.13`	`Phaos`	`I'v put the multiplier down, but even 0.1 does barely anything`
`02:13.38`	`Phaos`	`I have a feeling it's a blend type or flag somewhere`
`02:13.47`	`Phaos`	`but unfortunatly NiN hasn't documented them`
`02:19.17`	`Reactorex`	`is back!`
`02:20.09`	`goomba_`	`how do i 'apply' that grid to the model`
`02:21.21`	`Triceron`	`its not the multiplier`
`02:21.24`	`Triceron`	`it's the spec amount`
`02:21.42`	`Triceron`	`the bigger number you use, the sharper the spec is. You're at 0.0 I presume. Try it at 50.`
`02:22.05`	`goomba_`	`oh thatll do it`
`02:22.07`	`Triceron`	`if that doesn't work, then I suggest trying to darken your spec map in photoshop.`
`02:22.38`	`Triceron`	`goomba, just apply it as a texture. Material editor - diffuse map`
`02:25.14`	`Triceron`	`btw Phaos, did you get emissives working?`
`02:27.57`	`Reactorex`	`Hey, eckolnovkol!`
`02:28.29`	`Dreathean`	`Hey!`
`02:28.41`	`Phaos`	`yes I did`
`02:28.46`	`Phaos`	`the the specular problem now`
`02:29.23`	`Phaos`	`the emissive issue was because it was a team color emissive and I needed to set it to team color on the bitmap and then change the blend time to emissive team color add (go figure)`
`02:29.35`	`Phaos`	`time? type!`
`02:31.34`	`Reactorex`	`Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis`
`02:31.35`	`Triceron`	`ah, teamcolor. That'd getchya`
`02:31.43`	`Phaos`	`yeeeah`
`02:31.44`	`Phaos`	`so`
`02:31.46`	`Reactorex`	`My favorite word.`
`02:31.48`	`Reactorex`	`:P`
`02:31.49`	`Phaos`	`know much about speculars ?`
`02:31.52`	`Phaos`	`or specular settings`
`02:31.53`	`Triceron`	`read above`
`02:32.04`	`Phaos`	`or mostly how to make it not look like it's going upernova`
`02:32.08`	`Phaos`	`O.O`
`02:32.17`	`Phaos`	`oh >.>`
`02:32.19`	`Phaos`	`thx :D`
`02:32.44`	`Phaos`	`holy lol!`
`02:32.52`	`Phaos`	`bigger number = "less" spec!`
`02:32.56`	`Phaos`	`who woulda thunk it!`
`02:33.07`	`goomba_`	`jeez so confusing`
`02:33.11`	`Triceron`	`I only found out`
`02:33.18`	`Triceron`	`cuz I imported a unit`
`02:33.23`	`Triceron`	`and checked all its settings`
`02:33.34`	`Triceron`	`and noticed they cranked spec up to like 40+`
`02:33.42`	`Phaos`	`I wish importing preserved material settings.`
`02:33.49`	`Phaos`	`then I woulda just looked at a blizz model`
`02:34.03`	`Dreathean`	`Mhm`
`02:34.08`	`Phaos`	`oh you can check it's material settings O.o ?!`
`02:34.17`	`Dreathean`	`Ywah.`
`02:34.32`	`Triceron`	`when you import a model`
`02:34.40`	`Triceron`	`it's material is imported too`
`02:34.51`	`Triceron`	`so you can see what it's flagged, what its hdr mulitpler is, etc`
`02:34.54`	`Phaos`	`hmmm. I checked the material editor looking at a marine and there was no material`
`02:35.01`	`Triceron`	`like the zerg usually have 2.5 emissive and specular, higher spec.`
`02:35.08`	`Triceron`	`and a really sharp spec so it looks slimy`
`02:35.11`	`Dreathean`	`uh oh!`
`02:35.28`	`Triceron`	`there should be`
`02:36.20`	`Phaos`	`maybe I have an older importer...`
`02:36.56`	`Dreathean`	`Tis a possibility.`
`02:37.15`	`Phaos`	`lol Dreathean`
`02:37.15`	`Triceron`	`Dreathean - wtf?`
`02:38.01`	`Dreathean`	`Everything.`
`02:38.49`	`Dreathean`	`Mmm well be back in a bit, gotta do 1v2 insane ai all over again lol`
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`02:39.53`	`ekcolnovkol`	`COME ON`
`02:39.59`	`ekcolnovkol`	`20 MORE GAMES TILL FIRST PAGE`
`02:40.01`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Corbo (~thecorbo@190.87.76.32)`
`02:40.06`	`ekcolnovkol`	`stomps the ground until it cracks`
`02:40.14`	`Corbo`	`ITS`
`02:40.21`	`Corbo`	`REAL ID TIME!`
`02:40.40`	`GeorgeWBush`	`SHIT I'VE BEEN FOUND OUT`
`02:40.42`	`CarlosCuchilla`	`:P`
`02:40.48`	`GeorgeWBush`	`uh uh`
`02:40.51`	`GeorgeWBush`	`IRAQ WAS NOT MY FAULT`
`02:40.56`	`CarlosCuchilla`	`We had barack obama yesterday`
`02:41.07`	`Dreathean`	`lmao`
`02:41.08`	`CarlosCuchilla`	`and heidi klum`
`02:41.36`	`ekcolnovkol`	`don't come to my house D: i have bodyguards`
`02:41.45`	`CarlosCuchilla`	`;o`
`02:42.30`	`Triceron`	`tell us where you live so we know where not to go`
`02:44.23`	`ekcolnovkol`	`it's that big place in washington`
`02:44.35`	`Phaos`	`ungh you can't tile units in SC2 properly because they don't receive shadows from their immediate neighbors and you end up with weird shading`
`02:44.58`	`Triceron`	`but that's where obama lives now`
`02:44.59`	`Phaos`	`I could just have "unshaded" but that turns off the emissive shader :(`
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`02:46.03`	`Triceron`	`is there no 'recieves no shadows' option?`
`02:46.39`	`Phaos`	`there is, but I want shadows :P`
`02:46.51`	`Phaos`	`because the lighting will look weird with that setting won't it ?`
`02:47.05`	`Phaos`	`cos then say if a flying unit passes overhead, it wouldn't receive it's shiluette`
`02:47.47`	`ekcolnovkol`	`LORD JESUS`
`02:47.53`	`ekcolnovkol`	`my chatlogs are being copy-pasted all over the internet`
`02:47.55`	`ekcolnovkol`	`D:`
`02:48.05`	`Phaos`	`whats in your chat logs ?`
`02:48.10`	`ekcolnovkol`	`someone took out a line where i said "or a whole lot of people in california are going to die"`
`02:48.12`	`Phaos`	`that people are copy pasting`
`02:48.28`	`ekcolnovkol`	`17:03] * ekcolnovkol (~ekcolnovk@pool-173-68-14-99.nycmny.east.verizon.net) has joined #sc2mapster`
`02:48.28`	`ekcolnovkol`	`[17:03] <ekcolnovkol> WHAT THE FUCK`
`02:48.28`	`ekcolnovkol`	`[17:04] <Phaos> O.O`
`02:48.28`	`ekcolnovkol`	`[17:04] <ekcolnovkol> THIS BETTER NOT MEAN I HAVE TO REDO ALL MY TRIGGERS`
`02:48.28`	`ekcolnovkol`	`[17:04] <Phaos> whats the problem ?`
`02:48.30`	`Phaos`	`in context with what ?`
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`02:48.39`	`ekcolnvkol`	`lmao`
`02:48.44`	`ekcolnvkol`	`eat it`
`02:48.44`	`Phaos`	`OH`
`02:48.45`	`Phaos`	`hahaha`
`02:48.46`	`Phaos`	`that one`
`02:48.56`	`ekcolnvkol`	`ZER OF THEM WORK`
`02:49.04`	`ekcolnvkol`	`FUCK IT`
`02:49.06`	`ekcolnvkol`	`WE'RE DOING IT LIVE`
`02:49.13`	`Phaos`	`xD`
`02:49.14`	`ekcolnvkol`	`I'LL WRITE THEM`
`02:49.19`	`ekcolnvkol`	`AND WE DO IT LIVE`
`02:49.20`	`Phaos`	`good game`
`02:49.29`	`Phaos`	`I love john`
`02:49.36`	`Phaos`	`if I was a gay man I would stalk him`
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`02:58.19`	`Phaos`	`Triceron`
`02:58.22`	`Phaos`	`take a look at this`
`02:58.28`	`Phaos`	`and tell me what you think i can do about it`
`02:58.29`	`Phaos`	`http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=30n1s2rp7ffi91b&thumb=4`
`02:58.35`	`Phaos`	`the shadowing that is`
`02:58.44`	`Phaos`	`I just tried receive no shadows and it's still doing it -_-`
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`02:59.04`	`ekcolnvkol`	`i'm being smeared D:`
`02:59.07`	`Triceron`	`one question`
`02:59.12`	`Triceron`	`does your model have hard edges`
`02:59.13`	`ekcolnovkol`	`waugh`
`02:59.14`	`Phaos`	`yah ?`
`02:59.25`	`Triceron`	`make sure it's 100% smooth edges`
`02:59.29`	`Phaos`	`on the ends it does for the purposes of tiling`
`02:59.33`	`Triceron`	`don't`
`02:59.37`	`Triceron`	`SC2 fucks your shadowing`
`02:59.38`	`Phaos`	`O.O`
`02:59.40`	`Triceron`	`that's your problem`
`02:59.55`	`Triceron`	`all meshes need to be 100% soft edge`
`03:00.06`	`Phaos`	`so id smoothed? or champhered ?`
`03:00.17`	`Triceron`	`normal smooth`
`03:00.25`	`Triceron`	`not like adding polies smooth`
`03:00.30`	`Phaos`	`phew! no mesh editing required`
`03:00.33`	`Phaos`	`thats a relief`
`03:00.42`	`Triceron`	`I think it's the smooth modifier in Max? Not sure.`
`03:00.49`	`Triceron`	`I do all this in Maya so the terms are different`
`03:00.57`	`Phaos`	`won't that make the model looked fucked up in the game tho ?`
`03:01.01`	`Triceron`	`no`
`03:01.04`	`Triceron`	`quite the opposite`
`03:01.08`	`Phaos`	`O.o`
`03:01.10`	`Phaos`	`righto!`
`03:01.14`	`Phaos`	`I'll give it a shot xD`
`03:01.18`	`Triceron`	`SC2 HATES hard edges`
`03:01.29`	`Triceron`	`I've tested myself. Wondered why I was getting weird shadowing`
`03:02.13`	`Phaos`	`ok well I just did a 90 degree auto smooth`
`03:02.18`	`Phaos`	`it looks fed in max`
`03:02.26`	`Phaos`	`but lets see how it goes in game xD`
`03:03.05`	`Dustin`	`Guest-314: There appears to be a significant input delay when using keyboard commands in custom maps that is (probably) unrelated to latency that has remained since Warcraft 3. Trying to play games on battle.net using arrow keys to move for example, is impossible. Is your team aware of this issue and are there plans to fix it?`
`03:03.05`	`Dustin`	`DustinB: We are very aware. Last I heard they were working on it but it was a hard problem. I don't know if a fix is incoming or possible. We shall have to wait andsee what the engineers come up with.`
`03:03.07`	`Dustin`	`Nice :D`
`03:05.00`	`onetwo`	`so you are DustinB`
`03:05.05`	`onetwo`	`yeah i linked a bunch of that earlier`
`03:05.06`	`onetwo`	`some good news`
`03:05.11`	`onetwo`	`like theyre totally aware of popularity flaws`
`03:05.30`	`onetwo`	`the one true flaw is you cant test publicly with your map at an instant`
`03:05.42`	`Dreathean`	`mhm`
`03:05.43`	`onetwo`	`whereas in war3 you could`
`03:05.46`	`onetwo`	`even if 9/10 games were dota`
`03:05.50`	`Dreathean`	`lol`
`03:05.51`	`onetwo`	`you could still host a random other map`
`03:05.59`	`onetwo`	`and people would breathe a sigh of relief`
`03:06.02`	`onetwo`	`for something else`
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`03:06.44`	`Traveler9`	`guys what is the server here?`
`03:06.49`	`onetwo`	`?`
`03:06.55`	`Traveler9`	`trying to get on in mIRC but forgot server`
`03:06.58`	`Traveler9`	`lol`
`03:07.02`	`Traveler9`	`its Iggyhopper`
`03:07.04`	`Azkit`	`I gotta admit that I chuckled when I saw "Join Clan xxx" among the "most popular" maps for awhile, which bumped down some other maps.`
`03:07.13`	`Dreathean`	`lol`
`03:07.19`	`Dreathean`	`mmm`
`03:07.31`	`Dreathean`	`I can't wait until release so I can really work on them achievements =d`
`03:07.41`	`Traveler9`	`niven.freenode.net k got it`
`03:07.45`	`onetwo`	`i actually have 0 interest in achievements`
`03:07.57`	`onetwo`	`but people seem to like it`
`03:08.10`	`Azkit`	`I'm definitely interested the "Insane" campaign mode.`
`03:08.16`	`Dreathean`	`well`
`03:08.22`	`Dreathean`	`hopefully they fix the ai`
`03:08.33`	`Azkit`	`What about the AI?`
`03:08.35`	`Dreathean`	`this is how easy it is to destroy the 1v2 insane ai`
`03:08.44`	`ekcolnovkol`	`HELP MEEEEE`
`03:08.47`	`Dreathean`	`http://www.mediafire.com/?qyp4y445jhm1g5z`
`03:08.49`	`ekcolnovkol`	`people are reading my chatlogsssssss`
`03:08.51`	`ekcolnovkol`	`D;;;;;`
`03:08.51`	`Dreathean`	`thats me beating them`
`03:08.54`	`ekcolnovkol`	`weeps blood`
`03:08.58`	`Azkit`	`I haven't played against the AI myself, so yeah.`
`03:09.04`	`LordAbyss`	`ekcol i like the map btw`
`03:09.05`	`Dreathean`	`they are really stupid`
`03:09.10`	`ekcolnovkol`	`lol thanks :<`
`03:09.12`	`Dreathean`	`ESPECIALLY the insane one, it seems`
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`03:09.20`	`LordAbyss`	`just need to work on some balancing :P`
`03:09.25`	`ekcolnovkol`	`yes`
`03:09.28`	`AxlYin`	`HAI PEOPLZE`
`03:09.38`	`Dreathean`	`that you roarman?`
`03:10.04`	`Triceron`	`no, that's Axl. He's.... you probably don't want to know.`
`03:10.05`	`Azkit`	`I also wanna say that the AI is probably one of the last things Blizz worked on and probably received the least internal and external testing.`
`03:10.15`	`Phaos`	`triceron, even with hard edges normal smoothed. shadows still attacking`
`03:10.15`	`AxlYin`	`onetwo, ekcolnovkol, rrowland, triceron, prozaicmuze`
`03:10.18`	`AxlYin`	`wassup pplz`
`03:10.26`	`Dreathean`	`lol`
`03:10.27`	`Dreathean`	`gotcha`
`03:10.32`	`Triceron`	`what?! that's odd.`
`03:10.38`	`Triceron`	`I swear it would've fixed it.`
`03:10.44`	`Azkit`	`Likely because if something major changes (ex: removal of the lurker just before public-beta), a large chunk of the ai becomes wasted.`
`03:10.45`	`Saeris`	`hey, anyone know how to make an ability auto-cast?`
`03:10.55`	`ekcolnovkol`	`yes`
`03:10.57`	`ekcolnovkol`	`hides`
`03:10.57`	`Saeris`	`specifically i want to set the yamato gun to autocast`
`03:11.01`	`Dreathean`	`meh`
`03:11.05`	`ekcolnovkol`	`saeris?`
`03:11.08`	`ekcolnovkol`	`did't you make golem wars`
`03:11.08`	`Dreathean`	`its not about their builds though`
`03:11.09`	`onetwo`	`axlyin`
`03:11.12`	`Dreathean`	`its about how they attack`
`03:11.12`	`Saeris`	`sup?`
`03:11.14`	`onetwo`	`one day im gonna type everyones name in`
`03:11.15`	`Dreathean`	`and their choices`
`03:11.15`	`onetwo`	`chat`
`03:11.16`	`onetwo`	`to ping them all`
`03:11.18`	`Dreathean`	`watch my replay =P`
`03:11.20`	`ekcolnovkol`	`that was a yes/no question ;o`
`03:11.22`	`Dreathean`	`explains everything lol`
`03:11.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`03:11.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I was pinged Xp`
`03:11.25`	`Saeris`	`yes i did`
`03:11.28`	`Phaos`	`I could send the package your way get you to take a look at it ?`
`03:11.44`	`Phaos`	`maybe there is something obvious I havn't done`
`03:11.45`	`Azkit`	`I believe there's a flag in the ability which can be tagged for auto-casting.`
`03:11.55`	`Saeris`	`i'm actually working on it at the moment, lol`
`03:12.23`	`Saeris`	`hmmm`
`03:13.02`	`LordAbyss`	`phaos stop wrecking the polls on the creature contest`
`03:13.03`	`LordAbyss`	`:P`
`03:13.05`	`Dreathean`	`so`
`03:13.11`	`Phaos`	`>.>`
`03:13.16`	`AxlYin`	`onetwo`
`03:13.19`	`Phaos`	`I was tied last night!`
`03:13.19`	`AxlYin`	`onetwo`
`03:13.24`	`Dreathean`	`if you upload your replays to mediafire, do you think that will save them from blizz's replay destruction?`
`03:13.37`	`Phaos`	`I dunno what happened. my votes just exploded when I woke up :(`
`03:13.43`	`AxlYin`	`you can just back them up in a zip folder dreathean`
`03:13.51`	`Dreathean`	`ah k`
`03:13.55`	`onetwo`	`?`
`03:13.58`	`AxlYin`	`hi`
`03:14.02`	`Phaos`	`i mean it's good for me! :D`
`03:14.26`	`Azkit`	`Even backing them won't save you as the retail version will remove all beta versions of SC2. Without the previous SC2 version, you can't view the replay.`
`03:15.01`	`Azkit`	`If you save the old versions in another folder, however, you might be able to view beta replays.`
`03:15.15`	`Azkit`	`old versions = old sc2 versions, not old replays.`
`03:17.02`	`Vailreth`	`onetwo to ping them all`
`03:17.21`	`Phaos`	`triceron?`
`03:17.25`	`onetwo`	`sometimes i hear pings at night`
`03:17.38`	`Azkit`	`I'm gonna call it an early night. It's been a rough day of movie watching. o.o (no really, got a vaccination yesterday and it's been making me sleepy)`
`03:17.46`	`Dreathean`	`ah aight`
`03:17.49`	`onetwo`	`bye`
`03:17.49`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kalekin (~nnscript@41-133-10-227.dsl.mweb.co.za)`
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`03:20.54`	`Triceron`	`back`
`03:20.56`	`Dreathean`	`so does anyone know how to do the 1v7 ffa w/ insane ai?`
`03:20.57`	`Triceron`	`what'd i miss`
`03:21.14`	`Dreathean`	`rrowland did it somehow`
`03:21.45`	`Dreathean`	`hmm`
`03:22.04`	`Dreathean`	`i have an idea. lol`
`03:22.59`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`are events default "or" or "and"`
`03:23.06`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and is there any way to change it if it's "and"`
`03:23.55`	`Dreathean`	`also out of curiosity, in order to get the achievements for beating the ai on custom mode, do you have to play on blizz made maps?`
`03:23.58`	`Dreathean`	`would make sense =P`
`03:24.50`	`Sublimity`	`Dreathean: Yes, I believe you do have to play on Blizzard maps.`
`03:24.58`	`Dreathean`	`aight thanks`
`03:25.12`	`Sublimity`	`I got 1v7 Insane FFA by playing Terran and lifting, moving to the island, then massing Battlecrusiers.`
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`03:28.53`	`TheLaughingMan`	`~seen Sixen`
`03:28.55`	`purl`	`sixen is currently on #sc2mapster #wowuidev. Has said a total of 107 messages. Is idling for 15h 42m 31s, last said: 'alright guys, i'm headin' to bed. gnight.'.`
`03:29.41`	`Vulfe`	`Whoa`
`03:29.45`	`Vulfe`	`I'm still here!`
`03:29.46`	`Vulfe`	`No wai`
`03:30.29`	`Sixen`	`hi`
`03:30.41`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Hey Sixen`
`03:31.12`	`Sixen`	`What's up TLM`
`03:31.32`	`TheLaughingMan`	`As soon as Eclipse stops crashing every 10 seconds`
`03:31.43`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I will have another version for you to try`
`03:32.44`	`Phaos`	`triceron, you missed me asking you if I could send you my pack so I could get you to see if I missed something obvious`
`03:33.02`	`Triceron`	`sure`
`03:33.15`	`Phaos`	`sweet`
`03:33.25`	`Triceron`	`send me the map, model and texture`
`03:33.46`	`Phaos`	`alright. don't need the max file do you ?`
`03:33.48`	`Triceron`	`or just model and texture if the map is huge`
`03:33.53`	`Triceron`	`well the max model`
`03:33.58`	`Phaos`	`the map is depths xD`
`03:33.59`	`Triceron`	`so I can export`
`03:34.04`	`Phaos`	`sure`
`03:34.14`	`Triceron`	`um, you using 2010? 2011?`
`03:34.28`	`Phaos`	`2011 atm`
`03:34.35`	`Triceron`	`hrm, save off a 3ds too then`
`03:34.40`	`Phaos`	`shouldn't matter 2010 and 11 are compat`
`03:34.42`	`Triceron`	`or if you can, obj`
`03:34.45`	`Triceron`	`okay`
`03:34.48`	`Triceron`	`just making sure`
`03:34.55`	`Phaos`	`fair nuff`
`03:36.13`	`Phaos`	`you can open 7z triceron ?`
`03:36.18`	`AxlYin`	`I WANT A SEA PIG`
`03:36.20`	`Triceron`	`er`
`03:36.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (~zoxc@ti0128a340-dhcp0032.bb.online.no)`
`03:36.26`	`Triceron`	`maybe haha`
`03:36.30`	`Triceron`	`does winrar cover that?`
`03:36.40`	`Phaos`	`mebbe xD I'll do it as zip to be safe`
`03:36.43`	`AxlYin`	`So the final fantasy mod, is breathtaking`
`03:36.54`	`Triceron`	`the turn based one?`
`03:37.10`	`Triceron`	`cuz that mod`
`03:37.14`	`Triceron`	`makes me wanna model FF1 characters.`
`03:38.11`	`Sixen`	`Okay`
`03:38.13`	`Triceron`	`I'm playing Dragon Quest 9, and it's sooo goood`
`03:38.19`	`Sixen`	`rrowland, you alive?`
`03:38.21`	`Triceron`	`oldschool NES turn based RPG`
`03:39.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster lotharscm (45f4d0a0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.244.208.160)`
`03:40.19`	`Phaos`	`turn based RPG?! now I have homm on the brain, damn you`
`03:43.01`	`Triceron`	`ha, I can't open it`
`03:43.08`	`Triceron`	`2010 doesn't like your 2011 model`
`03:43.24`	`TheLaughingMan`	`GRAW!`
`03:43.36`	`Triceron`	`send me a .obj if you can`
`03:43.47`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I give up, I am going to try out the 32bit application`
`03:43.54`	`Triceron`	`phaos - send me an .obj if you can`
`03:45.50`	`Phaos`	`it won't open ?`
`03:45.57`	`Triceron`	`no it won't`
`03:45.59`	`Phaos`	`D:`
`03:46.01`	`Phaos`	`lame`
`03:46.08`	`Phaos`	`doesn't the m3 have all the material data ?`
`03:48.40`	`Phaos`	`obj sent`
`03:49.29`	`Phaos`	`hopefully I exported it correctly`
`03:50.39`	`Triceron`	`phaos`
`03:50.54`	`Triceron`	`you have no shadows cast and no shadows recieved checked right?`
`03:51.37`	`Phaos`	`no`
`03:51.42`	`Phaos`	`because I wanted shadows :P`
`03:52.06`	`Phaos`	`I tired with and without "no shadows received" it didn't seem to make much of a difference`
`03:52.11`	`Phaos`	`tried too`
`03:52.53`	`Phaos`	`I want shadows. I just don't want the weird gradient shading`
`04:01.46`	`Triceron`	`hrm, the emissive is not working for me, making the whole thing glow`
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`04:01.58`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Sixen, I have a new version`
`04:06.31`	`Phaos`	`weird :S`
`04:06.55`	`AxlYin`	`LISTEN ALL YOU MOTHA FUCKAS`
`04:06.56`	`Phaos`	`the bitmap settings hould be team color and texture wrap, and the matieral settings should be emissive team blend`
`04:07.03`	`AxlYin`	`>.>`
`04:07.11`	`AxlYin`	`Crystal Method = <3`
`04:08.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`alright already I am listening`
`04:08.18`	`AxlYin`	`it's a song you fool`
`04:08.21`	`AxlYin`	`criminal freaks`
`04:08.22`	`AxlYin`	`err`
`04:08.25`	`AxlYin`	`calling all freaks*`
`04:09.51`	`Triceron`	`Argh this is pissing me off`
`04:10.01`	`Triceron`	`for some reason the bridge won't show for me in previewer`
`04:10.07`	`Triceron`	`but I can see it in the import section`
`04:10.19`	`Dreathean`	`Woot did it ffa w/ insane lol`
`04:10.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm no fool`
`04:10.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm a genius`
`04:11.16`	`Phaos`	`restart the editor`
`04:11.20`	`Phaos`	`imports do that some times I find`
`04:11.31`	`AxlYin`	`FOOL`
`04:11.50`	`Dreathean`	`lol just saw, mmm love homm =D`
`04:11.59`	`Dreathean`	`that was some seriously fun shit`
`04:13.40`	`AxlYin`	`actually it's called name of the game`
`04:15.54`	`ekcolnovkol`	`www.playsotis.com`
`04:15.55`	`ekcolnovkol`	`<_<`
`04:15.56`	`ekcolnovkol`	`>_>`
`04:16.02`	`ekcolnovkol`	`bleeds`
`04:16.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`is that your site?`
`04:16.42`	`ekcolnovkol`	`yeah`
`04:16.44`	`ekcolnovkol`	`no ads!`
`04:16.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`ads wouldn't matter. I block them`
`04:17.05`	`ekcolnovkol`	`lol`
`04:17.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`http://www.playsotis.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=55:erekulsartonis&catid=36:heroes&Itemid=56`
`04:17.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`need to fix the colors`
`04:17.43`	`ekcolnovkol`	`yeah it's just a placeholder`
`04:18.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Are you going to be putting images in?`
`04:18.00`	`ekcolnovkol`	`tiberius is more readable right now`
`04:18.12`	`ekcolnovkol`	`of course`
`04:19.33`	`AxlYin`	`yer website is doodoo`
`04:19.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`+1`
`04:19.53`	`ekcolnovkol`	`your face is doodoo :(`
`04:19.55`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it's doodoodoo`
`04:20.02`	`AxlYin`	`lol i'm kidding ekco`
`04:20.11`	`ekcolnovkol`	`then so was i`
`04:20.21`	`AxlYin`	`:D`
`04:20.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I wasn't`
`04:20.25`	`AxlYin`	`<doesn't have a doodoo face`
`04:20.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it's doodoodoo`
`04:20.57`	`onetwo`	`ekcol i might start your cinematic later :D`
`04:21.04`	`onetwo`	`mindworx needs to send me an updated slowmo`
`04:21.05`	`onetwo`	`thing`
`04:21.06`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`04:21.16`	`onetwo`	`im hoping slowmo will allow me to record laggier areas`
`04:21.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`don't do his cinematic`
`04:21.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`his map and site are doodoodoo`
`04:21.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`we can't have a decent DotA running around`
`04:21.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`down with SOTIS!`
`04:21.32`	`ekcolnovkol`	`i wonder what happened to korvin gump`
`04:21.46`	`ekcolnovkol`	`he was making quite a few videos`
`04:21.58`	`onetwo`	`lol ekcolnovkol itd be funny if we got shut down by a bunch of guys in suits which turned out to be the makers of battlecraft armegadon, overrun, nexus wars, marine arena`
`04:22.06`	`onetwo`	`they couldnt stand your map coming up`
`04:22.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`They quash good maps I bet`
`04:22.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`"gag order on that bastage for his good map!"`
`04:22.27`	`ekcolnovkol`	`well`
`04:22.30`	`ekcolnovkol`	`i'll meet them in a white suit :)`
`04:22.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'll leave you all in a red suit`
`04:22.46`	`Sixen`	`PM!`
`04:22.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Sixen!`
`04:23.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`<.<`
`04:23.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`>.>`
`04:23.08`	`Sixen`	`=]`
`04:23.14`	`Sixen`	`I wanna play sc2`
`04:23.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`04:23.22`	`Triceron`	`Phaos, normal map looks fucked on my side`
`04:23.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I gotta edit moar pictures for real life peopel who nag me about this business thing I do on the side :(`
`04:23.49`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`04:24.07`	`Triceron`	`phaos have you tried looking at your bridge through the different shader modes?`
`04:24.36`	`Phaos`	`eh ?`
`04:24.54`	`Phaos`	`What did you notice ?`
`04:24.58`	`Triceron`	`in the sc2 editor`
`04:26.02`	`Triceron`	`go to View - Show Shader Mode - Normals only`
`04:26.54`	`AxlYin`	`hey`
`04:26.58`	`Sixen`	`hai`
`04:26.58`	`AxlYin`	`anyone know the anser to this?`
`04:27.11`	`Phaos`	`O.o ok`
`04:27.13`	`AxlYin`	`is there a way to get rid of the cost value of units from showign up?`
`04:27.22`	`onetwo`	`from the train ability?`
`04:27.29`	`Triceron`	`http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/PhaosBridge_Normals.jpg`
`04:27.32`	`Triceron`	`this is what I see`
`04:27.41`	`Triceron`	`where it should all be relatively purple`
`04:27.55`	`AxlYin`	`like when fucking zerglings burrow it has a cost ><`
`04:28.01`	`Triceron`	`I'm wondering if it looks like that in your map`
`04:28.07`	`Triceron`	`or if I'm exporting this incorrectly`
`04:28.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that picture looks like it was taken by someone whacked out on LSD`
`04:28.11`	`Phaos`	`yeah but take a look at my normal map!`
`04:28.24`	`Phaos`	`it's totally even`
`04:28.29`	`Triceron`	`is that what it looks like on your side?`
`04:28.33`	`Phaos`	`there is no gradient like that at all`
`04:28.39`	`Phaos`	`yeah`
`04:28.43`	`Phaos`	`it gradiates`
`04:28.49`	`AxlYin`	`WHOA`
`04:28.53`	`AxlYin`	`LSD BRIDGES`
`04:28.54`	`Phaos`	`but the normal map on my side is flat`
`04:28.55`	`AxlYin`	`FTW`
`04:28.56`	`Triceron`	`so when you go to normal map mode`
`04:29.00`	`Triceron`	`in the editor`
`04:29.03`	`Triceron`	`with your model`
`04:29.07`	`Triceron`	`that's what you see`
`04:29.15`	`Triceron`	`cuz if it is then I know it's the normal map causing issue`
`04:29.16`	`Phaos`	`I'm looking at it in the previwer but yeah same diff`
`04:29.23`	`Triceron`	`okay cool`
`04:29.29`	`Phaos`	`whats wrong with my normal O.o ?`
`04:29.32`	`Triceron`	`now we can test`
`04:29.36`	`Triceron`	`try using a regular normal map`
`04:29.40`	`Triceron`	`not funky orange`
`04:29.46`	`Triceron`	`btw how did you make this funky orange one?`
`04:29.47`	`Phaos`	`the standard purple`
`04:29.50`	`AxlYin`	`DOES ANYOEN KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF COSTS ON ABILITIES LIKE BURROW?`
`04:29.58`	`Triceron`	`yes standard purple`
`04:29.59`	`Phaos`	`take a look at blizzards normal maps`
`04:30.00`	`Triceron`	`just as a test`
`04:30.05`	`Phaos`	`they are all funky orange`
`04:30.07`	`Triceron`	`so you made this manually?`
`04:30.14`	`Triceron`	`swapping the channels?`
`04:30.20`	`Vailreth`	`edit the research ability that houses the upgrade`
`04:30.25`	`Vailreth`	`AxlYin:`
`04:30.27`	`AxlYin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:30.28`	`AxlYin`	`not the research`
`04:30.30`	`AxlYin`	`the ABILITY`
`04:30.34`	`Phaos`	`I copied the red channel made it alpha, whited out the old red channel and blacked out the old blue`
`04:30.38`	`Triceron`	`I'm just wondering if you did it manually or if you used some special way to export`
`04:30.39`	`Triceron`	`okay`
`04:30.43`	`AxlYin`	`when the patch hit, it fucked up abilities`
`04:30.48`	`Vailreth`	`?`
`04:30.52`	`AxlYin`	`so like burrow has a cost`
`04:30.53`	`AxlYin`	`to use`
`04:30.54`	`Triceron`	`cuz that's what I'm doing, I'm just wondering if you're using some automated/built in method or something`
`04:31.01`	`AxlYin`	`it takes the cost of the unit itself`
`04:31.04`	`Phaos`	`nope`
`04:31.06`	`Phaos`	`manual`
`04:31.08`	`Phaos`	`photoshop`
`04:31.10`	`Triceron`	`k`
`04:31.13`	`Phaos`	`nvidia export dds tools`
`04:31.15`	`Vailreth`	`hmm..`
`04:31.21`	`Triceron`	`I'm gonna do a quick test with a regular normal map and see if it changes anything`
`04:31.26`	`Phaos`	`kay`
`04:31.29`	`Triceron`	`mind you, all my unit maps`
`04:31.34`	`Triceron`	`are done the way yours is`
`04:31.39`	`Triceron`	`so I can't figure out why this is happening`
`04:31.50`	`Vailreth`	`maybe its a bug..`
`04:31.56`	`AxlYin`	`PHAOS, ONETWO, SIXEN, PROZAICMUZE DO EITHER OF YOU KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF THE COST ON BURROW THAT THE PATCH PUT IN ON ANY ABILITY THAT CREATES A UNIT?`
`04:32.01`	`Triceron`	`if it is, I'll squish it ;)`
`04:32.07`	`AxlYin`	`it's on several maps that are posted online`
`04:32.10`	`AxlYin`	`in bnet`
`04:32.15`	`Vailreth`	`i know i cant produce any of my custom units through the terran train ability`
`04:32.25`	`Sixen`	`Axlyin: What kind of cost?`
`04:32.25`	`onetwo`	`Axlyin`
`04:32.27`	`Sixen`	`Energy or money?`
`04:32.30`	`AxlYin`	`money`
`04:32.32`	`onetwo`	`check the cost of the unit that is being burrowed to`
`04:32.38`	`onetwo`	`and check tech upgrade cost if that field exists`
`04:32.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`your mother is a whore`
`04:32.40`	`AxlYin`	`but it shouldn't take that cost thuogh`
`04:32.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that is my answer`
`04:32.41`	`onetwo`	`inside the burrow ability`
`04:32.48`	`AxlYin`	`wait wut?`
`04:32.53`	`onetwo`	`Train ability for instance`
`04:32.56`	`onetwo`	`now has Tech upgrade cost`
`04:32.59`	`onetwo`	`instead of old cost`
`04:33.05`	`onetwo`	`maybe burrow has something like that`
`04:33.13`	`AxlYin`	`where do I find that?`
`04:35.15`	`AxlYin`	`?`
`04:35.30`	`Triceron`	`regular normal map looks good`
`04:35.39`	`Triceron`	`I think that was your problem phaos`
`04:36.05`	`Phaos`	`O.o`
`04:36.06`	`Phaos`	`bizzare`
`04:36.09`	`Phaos`	`very bizzare`
`04:36.15`	`Triceron`	`try it yourself, tell me if it works for you`
`04:36.20`	`Phaos`	`wonder whats special about the orange normals`
`04:36.22`	`Triceron`	`but yes, I've heard of this`
`04:36.27`	`Triceron`	`I remember talking to someone`
`04:36.37`	`Triceron`	`who said they were importing normal maps regularly`
`04:36.39`	`Triceron`	`for doodads`
`04:36.40`	`Triceron`	`and it worked`
`04:36.50`	`Triceron`	`but I had to convert manually for my units.`
`04:36.51`	`AxlYin`	`onetwo?`
`04:36.54`	`Phaos`	`lol how did you convery the normal back to standard purple xD`
`04:37.03`	`Phaos`	`since blue is lost forever`
`04:37.10`	`Triceron`	`blue is just white anyways`
`04:37.11`	`Triceron`	`most of the time`
`04:37.16`	`Phaos`	`true`
`04:37.20`	`Phaos`	`righto`
`04:37.25`	`Phaos`	`so white blue, black alpha ?`
`04:37.29`	`Phaos`	`or no alpha ?`
`04:37.29`	`Triceron`	`yes\`
`04:37.34`	`Triceron`	`black alpha`
`04:37.42`	`onetwo`	`weird`
`04:37.44`	`Phaos`	`kay`
`04:37.45`	`Triceron`	`test yourself first, I gotta reload the editor and double check`
`04:37.47`	`onetwo`	`"onetwo?" didnt ping me`
`04:37.53`	`AxlYin`	`lol`
`04:37.56`	`onetwo`	`honestly i dont know`
`04:38.01`	`onetwo`	`im just throwing stuff out there`
`04:38.03`	`AxlYin`	`do you know what I'm talkign about?`
`04:38.03`	`onetwo`	`in realtime 3D`
`04:38.07`	`onetwo`	`not really`
`04:38.20`	`onetwo`	`new patch messed up a lot of random values`
`04:38.21`	`onetwo`	`so hard to say`
`04:38.30`	`AxlYin`	`try duplicating a zergling`
`04:38.33`	`AxlYin`	`and use burrow`
`04:38.54`	`onetwo`	`do i have to`
`04:38.56`	`onetwo`	`whats wrong`
`04:39.04`	`onetwo`	`i generally avoid burrow spells`
`04:39.05`	`onetwo`	`anyway`
`04:39.09`	`onetwo`	`because i hate having to have 2 of a unit`
`04:39.12`	`onetwo`	`messes up my triggers`
`04:39.17`	`onetwo`	`better off faking it`
`04:39.17`	`onetwo`	`somehow`
`04:39.24`	`AxlYin`	`well`
`04:39.30`	`AxlYin`	`any ability really`
`04:39.35`	`AxlYin`	`that creates another unit`
`04:39.38`	`AxlYin`	`now uses the units cost`
`04:39.42`	`AxlYin`	`regardless of the ability`
`04:39.48`	`AxlYin`	`like`
`04:39.50`	`AxlYin`	`create unit`
`04:39.57`	`AxlYin`	`or train`
`04:39.59`	`AxlYin`	`or burrow`
`04:40.03`	`AxlYin`	`morphs and stuff`
`04:40.08`	`AxlYin`	`all use the cost of the unit`
`04:40.24`	`Vailreth`	`what is strange is when i HAD my train working`
`04:40.25`	`onetwo`	`oh`
`04:40.31`	`onetwo`	`try setting it to negative`
`04:40.32`	`Triceron`	`hrm, it doesn't look 100% debugged.`
`04:40.33`	`Vailreth`	`it would train TWO of my custom units`
`04:40.33`	`onetwo`	`perhaps`
`04:40.46`	`onetwo`	`morphing, upgrading, etc`
`04:40.50`	`onetwo`	`now depends on a base cost`
`04:40.52`	`onetwo`	`so to avoid it`
`04:40.56`	`Triceron`	`phaos - doesn't look 100% debugged. I'm still getting skittles colors, but the gradiation is gone.`
`04:40.57`	`Phaos`	`still exactly the same for me :s`
`04:40.59`	`onetwo`	`try negative?`
`04:41.09`	`AxlYin`	`what do you mean?`
`04:41.19`	`AxlYin`	`where do I try negative?`
`04:41.23`	`onetwo`	`i dont know`
`04:41.23`	`AxlYin`	`in ability cost?`
`04:41.24`	`onetwo`	`for Train`
`04:41.36`	`onetwo`	`Train ability has Info+ where you specificy the units your training`
`04:41.38`	`onetwo`	`and theres a field in there`
`04:41.41`	`onetwo`	`called tech upgrade cost`
`04:41.43`	`onetwo`	`for each trained unit`
`04:41.47`	`onetwo`	`used to be a base cost`
`04:41.50`	`onetwo`	`so many your aiblity`
`04:41.51`	`onetwo`	`ability`
`04:41.53`	`onetwo`	`yeah in cost`
`04:41.55`	`onetwo`	`or somewhere like that`
`04:41.57`	`onetwo`	`has a field`
`04:42.01`	`onetwo`	`that you can set to negative`
`04:42.04`	`onetwo`	`and see what happens`
`04:42.06`	`onetwo`	`just try stuff out`
`04:42.24`	`AxlYin`	`hrm`
`04:42.26`	`AxlYin`	`kk`
`04:42.27`	`AxlYin`	`ty`
`04:44.33`	`Phaos`	`yeah skittles colors are fixed for me too`
`04:44.39`	`Phaos`	`but it's still has the gradient in game :s`
`04:45.29`	`Saeris`	`hmmmm`
`04:45.33`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`would I use a validator to check if an ability should hit a unit based on it's owner`
`04:45.38`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I don't really know what I am doing`
`04:45.53`	`Saeris`	`anyone have any experience with creating threads for triggers?`
`04:46.42`	`Triceron`	`can you screencap your side`
`04:46.45`	`Triceron`	`and show me what it looks like`
`04:46.58`	`Triceron`	`in Normals Only mode`
`04:47.17`	`Phaos`	`sure`
`04:47.25`	`Triceron`	`i'm having dds issues again, I might have to test this in tga`
`04:47.32`	`Triceron`	`its saving without alpha`
`04:47.38`	`Phaos`	`notmals only or normal map only ?`
`04:47.56`	`Triceron`	`normals only`
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`04:48.05`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Bifuu] by ChanServ`
`04:48.12`	`Phaos`	`no need to screen cap`
`04:48.18`	`Phaos`	`it's bright white and glowy`
`04:48.35`	`Triceron`	`terrain is purple`
`04:48.39`	`TheLaughingMan`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/4895-sc2-mapster-on-your-android-phone/`
`04:48.46`	`Triceron`	`and your bridges are white and glowy?`
`04:48.48`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`ProzaicMuze,`
`04:48.51`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I need your help!`
`04:48.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`what do you need?`
`04:49.13`	`Triceron`	`phaos you use MSN?`
`04:49.22`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I want to make a validator that checks if a unit is owned by a player, is that possible?`
`04:49.30`	`Phaos`	`yeah I do unfortunatly I gotta go to work now , I will be back on in like 15 minutes`
`04:49.45`	`Bifuu`	`TheLaughingMan: I just bought a Droid X too, and i get on here and you link that, it must be a sign!`
`04:49.45`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`like, a numbered player. Player 1`
`04:49.55`	`Phaos`	`unfortunatly I won't be able to test at work :(`
`04:50.02`	`Triceron`	`k`
`04:50.16`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`spinecrawlers are buildings fyi`
`04:50.17`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`erm`
`04:50.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`wrong channel`
`04:50.39`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Bifuu, I have been giving Sixen orgasms for the past few days showing it off to him XP`
`04:50.49`	`Bifuu`	`lol nice`
`04:50.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I think the player alliance validator does that, but I haven't looked into it atm`
`04:51.08`	`Vailreth`	`what the heck is going on...`
`04:51.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Sixen is having sex`
`04:51.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`move along`
`04:51.23`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`naw, it just checks the relation of the unit, I want to choose a specific unit`
`04:51.35`	`TheLaughingMan`	`My demo doesn't do much at the moment, but it does query the server and downloads the forum structure`
`04:51.37`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`in fact, the validator wouldn't even work, I don't think, because it's an ability that does AOE, not target, damage.`
`04:51.39`	`Vailreth`	`when i train a 1 custom unit it trais both that one and a second custom unit`
`04:51.48`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Just wanting some feedback on layout optimization for devices`
`04:51.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Ok, so what are you wanting to achieve with said ability and validator, Deltoid?`
`04:51.55`	`TheLaughingMan`	`and for people to make me icons`
`04:52.17`	`Bifuu`	`id get it to test but i might be returning my X because the Mic is bugged or something`
`04:52.29`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Every time a unit dies (through a trigger) I want to run an ability that creates an explosion under the unit, damaging only 1 specifed played (it's a handicap map)`
`04:52.38`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`so that effectively every unit becomes a functional baneling.`
`04:52.41`	`TheLaughingMan`	`How big is the screen Bifuu?`
`04:52.47`	`Bifuu`	`uhhhhhhhhhh`
`04:52.49`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but with their normal abilities and everything`
`04:52.49`	`Bifuu`	`Huge?`
`04:52.50`	`Bifuu`	`lol`
`04:52.55`	`Bifuu`	`i forget`
`04:52.56`	`Bifuu`	`lemme google`
`04:53.13`	`onetwo`	`thats hard work laughing man considering no mobile version of sc2mapster is up`
`04:53.17`	`onetwo`	`might be better spent time doign that`
`04:53.17`	`onetwo`	`i dont know`
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`04:53.27`	`TheLaughingMan`	`4.3"`
`04:53.28`	`Bifuu`	`4.3 inch`
`04:53.32`	`Bifuu`	`yeah`
`04:53.45`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`so what I need to happen, in your nice little lamens logic chain thing is :check for units that are owned by player 1 in area, damage those units for 25% of their current health`
`04:53.47`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that is basically it`
`04:54.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you mean layman's*`
`04:54.33`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Thank you`
`04:54.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and`
`04:55.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm not sure if you can search for a specific player. I think it's just allied, player, enemy and neutral.`
`04:55.26`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Bifuu, it's almost the same as my EVO`
`04:55.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You could probably do it with triggers though.`
`04:55.38`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`hmm`
`04:55.40`	`Bifuu`	`ah so it wouldnt matter anyways lol`
`04:55.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Because Data Edtor chances aren't specific to players like triggers are.`
`04:55.53`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Same price, same harware just about`
`04:56.00`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Only way I can think is moving a region under the unit and effecting units in that region`
`04:56.05`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`can you think of a better way than that?`
`04:56.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Yours just has a bigger built in memory`
`04:56.37`	`TheLaughingMan`	`mine has 4G+FM Radio/Transmitter+Wireless N`
`04:56.49`	`Sixen`	`k sorry`
`04:56.50`	`Sixen`	`was having sex`
`04:57.01`	`TheLaughingMan`	`XD`
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`05:00.23`	`Bifuu`	`on the adroid talk anyways, anyone suggest any good apps? xD`
`05:01.10`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Hmm`
`05:01.13`	`TheLaughingMan`	`What do you need?`
`05:01.25`	`Bifuu`	`i dunno`
`05:01.31`	`Bifuu`	`shit to keep me occupied lol`
`05:01.42`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I would use AppBrain, it's an online database for Android Applications`
`05:01.59`	`TheLaughingMan`	`plus if you make an account and install there apps you can get it so it automagically installs the free apps`
`05:02.10`	`TheLaughingMan`	`and the paid apps takes a few clicks`
`05:02.16`	`TheLaughingMan`	`But`
`05:03.32`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Saving crashes are ht ebest`
`05:03.45`	`TheLaughingMan`	`DropBox, ES File Manager, ES Task Manager, Google Goggles, Google Translate, Maps, Navigation, Pandora, Shopper, Speed Test, Torrent-fu, Urbanspoon`
`05:04.04`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Then you can get snesoid and gbaoid and the other emulators`
`05:05.07`	`Bifuu`	`most of that came preloaded on the droid X haha`
`05:05.27`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Well I hacked my EVO so I had to reinstall everything`
`05:05.36`	`TheLaughingMan`	`and take out the preloaded crap`
`05:05.39`	`Bifuu`	`torrents on a phone tho? lol`
`05:05.43`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Well`
`05:05.47`	`TheLaughingMan`	`It's a torrent manager`
`05:05.57`	`TheLaughingMan`	`you can remote controll uTorrent and such`
`05:06.46`	`TheLaughingMan`	`That is also why I like my new loader (the home screen thingy magig)`
`05:06.57`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Free and more customizable`
`05:07.35`	`Bifuu`	`oooooooooooooo`
`05:07.37`	`Bifuu`	`hmm`
`05:07.41`	`Bifuu`	`might get that then`
`05:08.04`	`Bifuu`	`and the gba emulator atleast, sucks you gatta pay for it tho`
`05:08.08`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Yea`
`05:08.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`But it's worth it`
`05:08.36`	`TheLaughingMan`	`and playing it on a Droid phone with a 1ghz processor makes it even better`
`05:08.45`	`TheLaughingMan`	`almost like you where playing the game`
`05:08.57`	`TheLaughingMan`	`normally that is`
`05:09.30`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Anyways try out my application`
`05:09.34`	`Bifuu`	`hmm the only difference in the free and paid version is save states?`
`05:09.43`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Free you can't save`
`05:09.48`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Paid you can`
`05:10.09`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Also don't every try to crack the paid applications and get them for free`
`05:11.21`	`TheLaughingMan`	`It takes like 5 seconds for google to lock you out of the market forever on the device and then they can contact your cell phone provider`
`05:11.29`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Oh, and get speedtest`
`05:11.36`	`TheLaughingMan`	`good thing to test you internet speed`
`05:12.01`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I get... 1Mb/s on 3G, 3-4Mb/s on 4G, 12Mb/s on my home's wifi`
`05:12.25`	`Bifuu`	`yeah didnt plan on cracking on there, but still i might be getting a replacement because of the mic`
`05:12.45`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Well it isn't an issue for you to buy programs and such for now`
`05:12.59`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Just make sure you wipe the data before you hand it over`
`05:13.36`	`Bifuu`	`yeah`
`05:13.53`	`TheLaughingMan`	`They made it smart so that everything paid for was linked to your google account`
`05:14.06`	`TheLaughingMan`	`and you just had to open the market to re-download`
`05:14.07`	`Bifuu`	`oh nice`
`05:14.16`	`Bifuu`	`i <3 google`
`05:14.21`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Oh`
`05:14.27`	`TheLaughingMan`	`You should try out the Google Goggles`
`05:14.36`	`Bifuu`	`yeah i have`
`05:14.53`	`TheLaughingMan`	`My coworker had her IPhone out and was messing with the Scrabble App "Words with Friends"`
`05:15.15`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I did the google goggles and took a picture of her phone and it told me what the app was and gave me a link to the website`
`05:15.38`	`Bifuu`	`lol nice`
`05:15.39`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Or even better when you take a picture of bills cause it kinds of words it so you feel kind of stupid`
`05:15.52`	`TheLaughingMan`	`This is an image of a 20 dollar bill, and that is all it shows`
`05:16.15`	`TheLaughingMan`	`You can even use it to scan business cards and such not`
`05:16.27`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Oh also one note`
`05:16.31`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Do you have gmail?`
`05:16.46`	`Bifuu`	`yeah of course`
`05:17.42`	`TheLaughingMan`	`go into the contacts on your phone and hit menu, somewhere in there you can find an option to only display contacts with phone numbers`
`05:18.00`	`TheLaughingMan`	`cause gmail has an issue with the fact it makes a contact for everyone you email`
`05:18.20`	`TheLaughingMan`	`and it will sync with your phone, it's stupid to have like 1,000 contacts of people you only emailed once or twice`
`05:20.39`	`Bifuu`	`hmm alright thanks for the tip`
`05:20.54`	`Bifuu`	`there any IRC apps? lol`
`05:21.21`	`Sixen`	`AndChat`
`05:21.28`	`Sixen`	`I used that the night I drove home talking on IRC`
`05:21.30`	`Sixen`	`That GE came out`
`05:21.51`	`Bifuu`	`lol i remember that`
`05:21.59`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`05:22.17`	`Sixen`	`That was a big night for us =)`
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`05:22.36`	`Bifuu`	`thats what i was thinking about when i asked btw hahaha`
`05:22.37`	`crazyfingers`	`how goes it everybody?`
`05:22.54`	`Sixen`	`:)`
`05:22.57`	`Sixen`	`hai crazy`
`05:23.03`	`crazyfingers`	`hey hey`
`05:23.10`	`Bifuu`	`now if you guys made my mic work id be even happier`
`05:23.12`	`crazyfingers`	`good lord, 5 hour blackout, not f*cking fun`
`05:23.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`check yo messages foo!`
`05:23.26`	`crazyfingers`	`you joking me prozaic?`
`05:23.34`	`crazyfingers`	`brb`
`05:24.02`	`crazyfingers`	`hehe, right on will do`
`05:24.26`	`crazyfingers`	`hey prozaic, you had some feedback on the WASD controls i had made up`
`05:24.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm gonna have a vid for the tut later tonight, but I'm pretty sure every one of those movers can be matched to one of your requests lol`
`05:24.30`	`crazyfingers`	`what was it?`
`05:24.42`	`crazyfingers`	`sweet dude, i'll be first in line to watch that`
`05:24.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You can download the map and play with it if you want, it's attached to it :)`
`05:25.09`	`crazyfingers`	`rock on`
`05:25.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`And I can't remember the WASD stuff lol`
`05:25.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I just remember it was something about smooth transition between facings`
`05:25.28`	`crazyfingers`	`not a big deal hehe`
`05:25.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm sure when I take a look again I'll remember and can bring it up ;)`
`05:26.02`	`crazyfingers`	`hit a bump in the road, guys working on the project with me jumped ship`
`05:26.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`? how so?`
`05:26.23`	`crazyfingers`	`so i'm slowly getting into the mindset that i gotta shoulder this whole mod myself`
`05:26.38`	`crazyfingers`	`can't describe it really`
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`05:26.47`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Score`
`05:26.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`they quit or they changed projects?`
`05:26.52`	`Bifuu`	`haha`
`05:26.53`	`Bifuu`	`epic`
`05:26.58`	`crazyfingers`	`one day we were super pumped, next thing i know they're just not sending messages`
`05:27.00`	`crazyfingers`	`not responding`
`05:27.02`	`crazyfingers`	`it's odd`
`05:27.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`maybe they dieded`
`05:27.17`	`crazyfingers`	`perhaps`
`05:27.21`	`crazyfingers`	`i was working them pretty hard`
`05:27.24`	`crazyfingers`	`haha, jk`
`05:27.34`	`Bifuu`	`now imma go be lazy on my couch and still talk`
`05:27.36`	`Bifuu`	`woot`
`05:27.48`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I'm sure you where working there hards`
`05:27.50`	`crazyfingers`	`you got some kinda cordless keyboard bifuu?`
`05:27.56`	`Sixen`	`He's on his cellphone`
`05:28.02`	`crazyfingers`	`impressive`
`05:28.10`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Indeed`
`05:28.10`	`crazyfingers`	`shit, i shoulda had that setup when the blackout occured`
`05:28.29`	`Saeris`	`hmmmmmmm`
`05:28.47`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`I love this shit lol`
`05:28.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol blackberry does that too`
`05:29.06`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`So much for being producive at work now`
`05:29.18`	`crazyfingers`	`Mapster is productive`
`05:29.24`	`crazyfingers`	`in a non paycheck kind of way`
`05:29.33`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Not for making pizzas`
`05:29.36`	`Saeris`	`so i'm trying to optimize my my map a bit, cut down on triggers using up a lot of CPU. any suggestions? i'd like to use threads for certain functions but no idea how to use them`
`05:30.05`	`Sixen`	`Is it possible to define threads manually?`
`05:30.22`	`Saeris`	`like, updating the leaderboard, giving rewards, etc. they both fire every time a unit dies, after passing conditions of course`
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`05:30.27`	`Saeris`	`apparently yes it is`
`05:30.37`	`Saeris`	`through action definitions you can create threads`
`05:31.15`	`TheLaughingMan`	`How o you do the \|phone?`
`05:31.35`	`PM\|Phone`	`like this`
`05:32.01`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Im just on 2devices`
`05:32.11`	`Saeris`	`cuz like, there are 3 triggers on my map that run very often, because units are dieing at an almost constant rate`
`05:32.15`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Comp and phone`
`05:32.27`	`Saeris`	`and i figure those are the ones causing the most lag, as far as my triggers are concerned`
`05:33.05`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Sixen how did you drive with this lol`
`05:33.24`	`ekcolnovkol`	`huh`
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`05:34.22`	`Phaos\|fromWork`	`Sup`
`05:34.27`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Yo`
`05:34.53`	`Saeris`	`so, guess i'm on my own with this issue then?`
`05:35.09`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Saeris you using any periodical triggers?`
`05:35.24`	`Saeris`	`no, not really`
`05:35.37`	`Sixen`	`No idea, Bifuu`
`05:35.38`	`Sixen`	`:p`
`05:35.46`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Like" every xx seconds"`
`05:35.58`	`Saeris`	`none run on that event no`
`05:36.07`	`Saeris`	`i have 3 triggers though`
`05:36.15`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Hmm well that's the only thing i know of that slows maps`
`05:36.17`	`Saeris`	`that have while loops that wait before continuing`
`05:37.06`	`Saeris`	`and usually in any game, there will be up to 5 instances of any of those triggers being run`
`05:37.09`	`Saeris`	`like`
`05:37.23`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`That kind of loop should be fine, i used them in a map before and was fine`
`05:37.25`	`Saeris`	`a player picks what unit he wants to spawn, and then it makes it for them every x seconds`
`05:37.40`	`Saeris`	`yea`
`05:37.57`	`Saeris`	`those 3 run solid, no errors 've ever been able to observe`
`05:38.24`	`Saeris`	`but one of my "when any unit dies" triggers fucks up on occasion`
`05:38.24`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Is it running slow already? Or do ou just want to make sure it never lags?`
`05:38.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster TLM\|phone (~TheLaughi@99-71-64-200.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net)`
`05:38.40`	`Saeris`	`i just want to cut down on lag to make the game more enjoyable`
`05:38.47`	`Saeris`	`most of the game lag comes from huge numbers of units`
`05:38.49`	`TLM\|phone`	`There we go`
`05:38.52`	`Saeris`	`and that can't be avoided entirely`
`05:39.20`	`crazyfingers`	`why not?`
`05:39.33`	`Saeris`	`well, it's a player's decision to use their units or not`
`05:39.39`	`Saeris`	`it's a golem wars map`
`05:39.44`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Yea then you might be as optimized as possible`
`05:39.46`	`Saeris`	`so often players stockpile units`
`05:39.46`	`crazyfingers`	`eh, limit the units`
`05:40.15`	`crazyfingers`	`what if you put a cap on units, but let players combine units`
`05:40.28`	`crazyfingers`	`so you could still stockpile but you wouldn't have a shitton?`
`05:40.31`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Thta was the best part of old golems lol`
`05:40.38`	`Saeris`	`yea`
`05:40.53`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Waiting to see who won out of the lag fest war`
`05:40.55`	`Saeris`	`i can't limit it, goes against the norm`
`05:41.12`	`Saeris`	`so i'm trying to speed up the game elsewhere`
`05:41.13`	`Saeris`	`lol`
`05:41.32`	`Saeris`	`well, I think what i did earlier will help`
`05:41.36`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`My typing is horrible on a phone just like on my pc lol`
`05:41.44`	`Sixen`	`lawl`
`05:41.46`	`Saeris`	`i now have one trigger that runs every time a unit dies`
`05:42.09`	`Saeris`	`it then goes through if else multiple, checks conditions, and runs action definitions i've defined`
`05:42.19`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Atleast it trys to fix my stuff lol`
`05:42.30`	`Saeris`	`instead of having 3 triggers running every time a unit dies, now there's only one`
`05:42.30`	`Lilianna`	`hehe`
`05:42.34`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Bifuu\|phone, the autofix is nice`
`05:42.47`	`TheLaughingMan`	`But I find that it corrects 80% of my typos`
`05:43.01`	`Lilianna`	`the autocorrect on the iPhone is annoying at times. :\|`
`05:43.09`	`Sixen`	`It just doesn't recognize some conjunctions.`
`05:43.10`	`Sixen`	`We're`
`05:43.12`	`Sixen`	`We'd`
`05:43.14`	`TheLaughingMan`	`and messes up 50% of the correctly typed words`
`05:43.25`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Yea it catches alot of my fat fingers errors`
`05:43.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Oh hey, Lilianna`
`05:43.29`	`Lilianna`	`Heya`
`05:43.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I haz a job for you`
`05:43.33`	`Lilianna`	`Oh?`
`05:43.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Munchkin DotA`
`05:43.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I want you to come up with 5 heroes and a theme for their abilities`
`05:43.51`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Sixen, can I be voiced pretty please?`
`05:43.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Names, unit models etc`
`05:43.58`	`Saeris`	`okay, here's one big problem i'm having though`
`05:44.04`	`Saeris`	`actually, i ahve 2 big problems, but this one first`
`05:44.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Every person that works on this will be makin' 5 heroes that I'll make crap for lol`
`05:44.16`	`Lilianna`	`lol`
`05:44.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`YOu can get as wild and crazy as you want`
`05:44.28`	`Lilianna`	`Well I already have one idea. :D Gotta get some more`
`05:44.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Just make sure the unit has a theme and something sarcastic about it ;)`
`05:44.30`	`Lilianna`	`and write them down`
`05:44.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yep, turnip thrower`
`05:44.41`	`Saeris`	`so, every time a unit dies, this function checks the killing player's Enemy Units Killed Score`
`05:44.52`	`Lilianna`	`Well, he's a farmer, but yah throws turnips!`
`05:44.52`	`Saeris`	`and gives them a unit every 25 kills and every 500 kills`
`05:44.56`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Dungeon Master`
`05:45.06`	`Saeris`	`except some times, it doesn't give the unit for the 500 kills`
`05:45.12`	`Saeris`	`and sometimes it gives two`
`05:45.27`	`Lilianna`	`are we going to be doing the 3 spells 1 ulti and a passive sorta like DotA? or another idea?`
`05:45.33`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Kills % 500 == 1`
`05:45.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Not sure yet`
`05:45.38`	`crazyfingers`	`here's an idea saeris, dont' limit unit cap, but make it logrithmic, if you have like 1 unit, you spawn units really fast`
`05:45.44`	`crazyfingers`	`if you have 100 units you spawn them really slow`
`05:45.46`	`TheLaughingMan`	`4 spells, 1 passive, 1 ulti`
`05:45.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that's why for now I just want names of heroes, a theme and something that makes them sarcastic in nature`
`05:46.00`	`Lilianna`	`ah okie dokie`
`05:46.08`	`Lilianna`	`I can do ideas. :)`
`05:46.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`No hero is allowed to be "cool"`
`05:46.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`they must be "creative" lol`
`05:46.14`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`I always forget about modulus lol`
`05:46.16`	`Lilianna`	`I think Ill go watch some TV now, with my sketch book`
`05:46.22`	`Saeris`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:46.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`05:46.26`	`Saeris`	`this is what i use to check`
`05:46.46`	`Lilianna`	`I can't figure out anything else to do anyways, and don't want to talk to some friends from other games`
`05:47.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`hulu it up :D`
`05:47.13`	`Lilianna`	`theres no food in my room though`
`05:47.17`	`Lilianna`	`thats downstairs`
`05:47.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Xp`
`05:47.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`sounds like you need to remodel then`
`05:47.31`	`Lilianna`	`:p`
`05:47.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`My computer is on my fridge`
`05:47.39`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Or get a phone!`
`05:47.45`	`Lilianna`	`I have a phone`
`05:47.54`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`A good one!`
`05:47.55`	`Lilianna`	`but some of my friends can get to me on it!`
`05:47.57`	`Bifuu\|phone`	`Lol`
`05:48.09`	`Lilianna`	`they has my number and stuff`
`05:48.15`	`Lilianna`	`so yah, sketchbook tv, bbl`
`05:48.57`	`Saeris`	`given that condition, shouldn't it ONLY ever run if score is divided evenly? it doesn't make sense to me that it sometimes doesn't work`
`05:49.16`	`Saeris`	`i figure the only way it couldn't work is if there is too much activity at the time the unit died, and it lags the system`
`05:49.25`	`Saeris`	`but even that doesn't make much sense`
`05:50.50`	`Saeris`	`or if somehow multiple units were responsible for the triggering unit's death`
`05:50.56`	`Saeris`	`but how could that be aswell?`
`05:50.58`	`Saeris`	`>.<`
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`06:00.52`	`Saeris`	`another thing i can't get to work`
`06:01.07`	`Saeris`	`is whenever a player leaves the game for any reason, i want to kill all of their units`
`06:01.16`	`Saeris`	`but the trigger never fires`
`06:01.41`	`Saeris`	`any ideas?`
`06:05.47`	`goomba_`	`~seen corbo`
`06:05.48`	`purl`	`corbo <~thecorbo@190.87.76.32> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3h 25m 27s ago, saying: 'REAL ID TIME!'.`
`06:06.09`	`goomba_`	`seen carloscuchilla`
`06:06.24`	`goomba_`	`~seen carloscuchilla`
`06:06.25`	`purl`	`carloscuchilla <~thecorbo@190.87.76.32> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3h 24m 40s ago, saying: ';o'.`
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`06:08.27`	`onetwo`	`lol ekcolnovkol my hilarious plan worked`
`06:08.50`	`onetwo`	`i recorded a section of your cinematic on ultra, but its a far shot so SUPER laggy with fraps... so i set fraps FPS to 10 and recorded on slower game mode`
`06:08.58`	`onetwo`	`then i sped it back up later`
`06:09.00`	`onetwo`	`and its smooth`
`06:09.09`	`onetwo`	`although a bit fast-mo`
`06:09.16`	`onetwo`	`i couldnt get it any other way`
`06:10.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`onetwo, have already already spoken with you about Munchkin DotA?`
`06:10.32`	`onetwo`	`?`
`06:10.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol, take that as a no`
`06:10.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm assembling a mapping team`
`06:11.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The idea is that at some point down the road we're making a DotA parody`
`06:11.30`	`goomba_`	`sounds like you need`
`06:11.34`	`goomba_`	`a goomba hero`
`06:11.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`06:12.08`	`Sixen`	`Super Gooma`
`06:12.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Would you be at all interested in working on said project with myself and said team in the future?`
`06:12.25`	`onetwo`	`hmm`
`06:12.30`	`dukka`	`say no and make him cry`
`06:12.31`	`onetwo`	`i cant commit`
`06:12.32`	`Sixen`	`Munchkin Dota`
`06:12.32`	`Sixen`	`Lmao`
`06:12.33`	`dukka`	`trust me this is a good plan`
`06:12.38`	`onetwo`	`itd have to be really bad`
`06:12.41`	`onetwo`	`like just so bad`
`06:12.44`	`goomba_`	`munchkin like donuts`
`06:12.45`	`onetwo`	`but so lovable`
`06:12.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that's the goal`
`06:13.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Take standard features of an DotA and reverse them`
`06:13.23`	`Sixen`	`So the goal will be to build a base`
`06:13.25`	`Sixen`	`and defend heroes?`
`06:13.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`THe main thing being that the mobs are huge and you're tiny`
`06:13.31`	`goomba_`	`my goomba model still needs a home`
`06:13.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and rather than killing groups of mobs, you'll need to gang up on mobs lol`
`06:13.43`	`dukka`	`you are the creeps`
`06:13.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`:D`
`06:14.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But we don't don't have anything set in stone`
`06:14.17`	`Sixen`	`that'd be cool imo`
`06:14.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm still gettin' people interested`
`06:14.20`	`Sixen`	`you're the mob`
`06:14.24`	`Sixen`	`3v3`
`06:14.27`	`Sixen`	`Each person gets mob of one lane`
`06:14.44`	`goomba_`	`you could make it like an rts of sorts perhaps?`
`06:14.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Well`
`06:14.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I was thinking squad play`
`06:15.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you play a "captain" of a group of creeps`
`06:15.16`	`goomba_`	`that would be leet in 3rd person lol`
`06:15.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The heroes are runnign down the lane and your "squad" follows you around and attacks your target.`
`06:15.37`	`AxlYin`	`WHEN YOUR STEPS`
`06:15.38`	`AxlYin`	`MAKE`
`06:15.39`	`AxlYin`	`THAT`
`06:15.40`	`AxlYin`	`MUCH`
`06:15.41`	`AxlYin`	`NOISE`
`06:15.44`	`AxlYin`	`.....SHH`
`06:15.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`???`
`06:15.53`	`goomba_`	`what?`
`06:15.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`anyways, onetwo`
`06:16.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm gonna count you in`
`06:16.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and as such, I have homework for you`
`06:16.08`	`AxlYin`	`wait wut?`
`06:16.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Come up with 5 heroes`
`06:16.14`	`AxlYin`	`wuts goign on?`
`06:16.16`	`AxlYin`	`i wanna help`
`06:16.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You don't need spells or anything`
`06:16.17`	`AxlYin`	`>.>`
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`06:16.28`	`Dkrchris`	`sup`
`06:16.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You just need a crazy idea for a hero unit and a funny theme with sarcasm in it`
`06:16.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Make 5 of these`
`06:16.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Each team member will be doing this`
`06:17.15`	`AxlYin`	`crazy idea?`
`06:17.24`	`goomba_`	`squirrel`
`06:17.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Lilianna is makin' a turnip throwing hero ;)`
`06:17.30`	`AxlYin`	`lobster`
`06:17.37`	`AxlYin`	`princess peach o.O`
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`06:17.44`	`goomba_`	`kim jong-il`
`06:17.57`	`Dkrchris`	`i made a map with that already >.> lol`
`06:18.05`	`goomba_`	`with what`
`06:18.24`	`AxlYin`	`ok i'll make one muze`
`06:18.28`	`Dkrchris`	`throwing items/ a turnip`
`06:18.30`	`AxlYin`	`no abilities?`
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`06:18.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`06:18.37`	`AxlYin`	`just unit/actors etc?`
`06:18.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`AxlYin, you're not on teh team yet`
`06:18.46`	`AxlYin`	`fuck you`
`06:18.49`	`AxlYin`	`hides`
`06:18.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmao`
`06:18.51`	`AxlYin`	`cries`
`06:19.01`	`AxlYin`	`;-;`
`06:19.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`What are you strengths and do you have proof?`
`06:19.10`	`goomba_`	`i can make caves`
`06:19.13`	`AxlYin`	`my strengths areeeeeee`
`06:19.14`	`AxlYin`	`DE`
`06:19.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I expect competence of my team members lol`
`06:19.17`	`AxlYin`	`I do heroes`
`06:19.19`	`AxlYin`	`and stuff`
`06:19.21`	`AxlYin`	`and abilities :D`
`06:19.26`	`AxlYin`	`hangar units esp >.>`
`06:19.27`	`goomba_`	`and pretty rivers`
`06:19.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Xp`
`06:19.39`	`AxlYin`	`I can send you my map prozaic lol`
`06:19.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The one that was broken and I had to fix? >:D`
`06:19.50`	`goomba_`	`my rivers are extra pretty`
`06:19.54`	`AxlYin`	`been working on it so effing long, I'm in the middle of reversing patch damage`
`06:20.02`	`AxlYin`	`no that was thunders`
`06:20.07`	`Sixen`	`competent team members?`
`06:20.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`06:20.09`	`Sixen`	`count me out.`
`06:20.09`	`AxlYin`	`wait`
`06:20.11`	`AxlYin`	`that wasn't you`
`06:20.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Psh`
`06:20.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`As if I'd even want you Sixen ;P`
`06:20.26`	`goomba_`	`competition is for the weak`
`06:20.37`	`Sixen`	`ouch`
`06:20.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You're too busy makin' that MWE monstrosity`
`06:20.39`	`AxlYin`	`hrm`
`06:20.47`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`06:20.48`	`AxlYin`	`i'mma post my WIP on SCII mapster`
`06:20.51`	`Sixen`	`MWE will be pretty awesome`
`06:20.55`	`AxlYin`	`I'm tired of wikiuploading it`
`06:20.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I hope so`
`06:20.57`	`Sixen`	`But I need to get a project of my own started.`
`06:21.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`because I'm told I'm going to make tutorials for the MWE as well`
`06:21.07`	`Sixen`	`yes`
`06:21.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`which is gonna be intersting Xp`
`06:21.09`	`Sixen`	`Data ones`
`06:21.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`"This is the MWE. . . I have no fecking idea what I'm doing, but we're gonna make some cool spells. . . oh crap deleted the map, one sec. . . ok map recovered. Now, make a unit! WTF!? Delete the structure. . . try again"`
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`06:22.07`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`06:22.11`	`Sixen`	`It's not retarded :P`
`06:22.28`	`Sixen`	`Nicoli got in relationships and reverse relationships`
`06:22.33`	`Sixen`	`and you can do raw XML editing too`
`06:22.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@AxlYin - if you can provide proof that you have excellent skills in a particular part of the editor and that you'd be willing to work on the project longterm I'd be willing to incorporate you.`
`06:22.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Well I hate XML`
`06:22.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it's the devil`
`06:23.03`	`goomba_`	`you wanna see my river`
`06:23.05`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`06:23.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`As long as I can make spiffy stuff in the Data Editor even faster. . . then I'll be happy.`
`06:23.13`	`Sixen`	`:)`
`06:23.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol goomba. . are you gonna buy yourself into my team with a single river and cave?`
`06:23.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Without a cave troll!?`
`06:23.31`	`goomba_`	`i could model a troll`
`06:23.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol, are you good with modeling software?`
`06:23.54`	`goomba_`	`totally amateur`
`06:23.58`	`goomba_`	`heres my river: http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4969/riverp.png`
`06:24.05`	`goomba_`	`just a sample of the fine work you can expect from me`
`06:24.18`	`rrowland`	`That's amazing`
`06:24.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Totally hired`
`06:24.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I want that specific river in my map. . . and go!`
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`06:24.57`	`goomba_`	`want me to upload that map for you?`
`06:25.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol nah`
`06:25.08`	`goomba_`	`heres a cave, notice the expertise of the river`
`06:25.09`	`goomba_`	`http://img138.imageshack.us/i/caveh.png/`
`06:25.31`	`rrowland`	`I thought caves were usually inside`
`06:25.33`	`goomba_`	`heres my senior pictures: http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/637/rendere.png`
`06:25.37`	`AxlYin`	`sixen`
`06:25.42`	`AxlYin`	`can you approve mah project plz?`
`06:25.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I think there is a roof, but you can't see it very well.`
`06:25.46`	`goomba_`	`theres a celing`
`06:25.55`	`goomba_`	`i just have 1 side cut out lol`
`06:26.30`	`Repo`	`New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/nameless-hero-arena-d/. Nameless Hero Arena :D. axlyin (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by xhatix.`
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`06:27.30`	`AxlYin`	`ty :D`
`06:27.54`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`ProzaicMuze, can you please explain the simpilest way to make a damage aura`
`06:28.02`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`in laymans might be fine.. I think`
`06:28.20`	`rrowland`	`First you have to align your chakras`
`06:28.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`behavior - buff > Effect - Search Area > Effect - Damage`
`06:28.28`	`AxlYin`	`i'll help you deltroid`
`06:28.45`	`Sixen`	`Yar Axl, one sec.`
`06:28.49`	`Sixen`	`oh`
`06:28.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Oie`
`06:28.49`	`Fisker`	`slaps Sixen around a bit with a large trout`
`06:28.50`	`Sixen`	`Hati got it`
`06:28.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`it's Maverck's evil twin!`
`06:29.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Damage increases damage?`
`06:29.13`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Oh`
`06:29.17`	`Fisker`	`hey Sixen`
`06:29.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`By damage aura I meant increases weapon damage.`
`06:29.22`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@2002:4406:763b:0:21f:5bff:fecf:375)`
`06:29.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Ahh`
`06:29.24`	`AxlYin`	`Behavior type buff, duration -1, periodic count -1 periodic duration how often you want it to hit, then make the periodic effect a search area,`
`06:29.27`	`Fisker`	`What do you call Sixen sitting alone in an empty room?`
`06:29.35`	`goomba_`	`fiven`
`06:29.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Behavior - Buff > Effect - Search Area > Effect - Apply Behavior > Behavior Buff`
`06:29.48`	`rrowland`	`Normal? 8)`
`06:29.48`	`AxlYin`	`in search area, go to area, radius whatever you want, count -1, effect is your damage`
`06:29.48`	`goomba_`	`that doesnt make sense even`
`06:30.41`	`AxlYin`	`or if you know DE well enough use prozaic's advice :p`
`06:31.22`	`AxlYin`	`you may want to exclude caster in search area`
`06:31.50`	`rrowland`	`I am now offering advice to any question. $10 over paypal will get you 20 minutes of pure 1 on 1 help`
`06:32.08`	`goomba_`	`how do i know if im gay`
`06:32.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmao`
`06:32.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`rrowland, will you teach me how to get a girlfriend!?`
`06:32.25`	`rrowland`	`Send me $30 and I'll spend an hour trying to help you figure it out`
`06:32.27`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`AxlYin, If I get stuck I'll ask ya`
`06:32.28`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`:)`
`06:32.31`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Gotta learn sometime`
`06:32.33`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`trial by fire etc`
`06:32.43`	`AxlYin`	`aye`
`06:32.46`	`rrowland`	`Send me about $50,000 and we'll spend that time trying to find someone desperate enough to date you PM`
`06:33.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Deal! :D`
`06:33.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Note: they don't have to be conscious if that gets me a discount`
`06:34.30`	`Sixen`	`pfft`
`06:34.31`	`Sixen`	`normal`
`06:35.01`	`Sixen`	`rrowland, you want t oplay?`
`06:36.44`	`goomba_`	`play wat`
`06:36.53`	`Sixen`	`sc2`
`06:37.00`	`AxlYin`	`Penis`
`06:37.03`	`goomba_`	`what league?`
`06:37.09`	`Fisker`	`slaps Sixen around a bit with a large trout`
`06:37.14`	`Sixen`	`pro league`
`06:37.15`	`Fisker`	`overnumerousness`
`06:37.16`	`Sixen`	`because we're pro`
`06:37.22`	`Sixen`	`we're diamond 2's`
`06:37.30`	`Sixen`	`Er.. platinum.`
`06:37.43`	`goomba_`	`close enough`
`06:37.57`	`goomba_`	`id ask to play but im stoned, sir.`
`06:38.01`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`06:38.02`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Sixen`
`06:38.05`	`Zoxc`	`Sixen: I'll play on europe with you =P`
`06:38.34`	`Sixen`	`I'd have to go install my EU client =\|`
`06:38.44`	`Sixen`	`yeah TLM?`
`06:39.06`	`Sixen`	`Oh btw... what ever happened with the rest of those icons? :P`
`06:39.50`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I got distracted`
`06:39.52`	`TheLaughingMan`	`>.>`
`06:39.53`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`06:40.01`	`Zoxc`	`do you have multiple accounts or does the client decide which server you connect to?`
`06:40.24`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I got distracted working on my AI Framework`
`06:40.32`	`TheLaughingMan`	`then I got distracted on my serialization library`
`06:40.36`	`Sixen`	`I have multiple accounts, Zoxc`
`06:40.44`	`TheLaughingMan`	`then I got distracted trying to help out the Stargate Galaxies`
`06:40.45`	`Sixen`	`I'm trying to figure out how live will work though`
`06:40.53`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Now I am distracted making the Android Application`
`06:40.56`	`Sixen`	`Supposedly we can have multiple regions attached to one account`
`06:41.18`	`Zoxc`	`why can't Blizzard screw up in a useful way =P`
`06:41.34`	`Sixen`	`because that'd be too good`
`06:41.39`	`Sixen`	`=\|`
`06:41.49`	`TheLaughingMan`	`They should just enable cross-region play and be done with it`
`06:41.59`	`goomba_`	`dont they plan on doing that at some point`
`06:42.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Some blue or something made a comment about it`
`06:42.21`	`TheLaughingMan`	`and then in a interview they shot it down`
`06:42.22`	`Zoxc`	`bnet seems to pair me with inferior players atm`
`06:42.25`	`TheLaughingMan`	`then in another they brought it up`
`06:42.53`	`TheLaughingMan`	`it's stupid to lock you on your own regions`
`06:43.14`	`TheLaughingMan`	`EvE Online doesn't do any region locking and people playing in China have no problem playing with people on the other side of the world`
`06:43.17`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`okay guys`
`06:43.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I got th ebuff to work`
`06:43.23`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but it also gives the buff to enemies`
`06:43.25`	`Zoxc`	`anyone wants to team up on europe? =P`
`06:43.33`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`how do I prevent it from doing this ProzaicMuze and AxlYin`
`06:43.40`	`TheLaughingMan`	`P_R_Deltoid, you have to change the search parameters`
`06:43.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Search Filters`
`06:43.47`	`TheLaughingMan`	`to exclude enemies`
`06:44.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`okay, thanks`
`06:44.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`np`
`06:44.31`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`also how exactly does the Damage Dealth Scaled modifier work`
`06:44.35`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`is it... percent or something?`
`06:44.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes`
`06:44.57`	`*** join/#sc2mapster poiuy_qwert (~poiuy_qwe@CPE001b115db0ae-CM0018c0c24ffc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`06:45.34`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that was pretty easy`
`06:45.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`phew`
`06:45.49`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`maybe there is hope for me in the DE eventually after aall.`
`06:47.08`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I added Self to Exclude in the Search Filters but it still seems to apply the behavior to the unit with the behavior, isthere something more to this?`
`06:47.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`06:47.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Caster`
`06:48.00`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Thought that was just a flag for units that don't have attacks outside of spells`
`06:48.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`nope, it excludes the caster of the ability/behavior/effect.`
`06:48.26`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh uhm I don't see this in the search filters, though`
`06:48.27`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`?`
`06:48.53`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`add something to Search Exclude+ ?`
`06:49.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`yes`
`06:51.29`	`AxlYin`	`AHAAHHAHAHHHAHAH`
`06:51.32`	`AxlYin`	`that isa ll`
`06:53.46`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Warcrime (aed831a1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.216.49.161)`
`06:54.38`	`Warcrime`	`oh shit droid x connects to irc haahahahahhah`
`06:54.44`	`Sixen`	`Droid X?`
`06:54.48`	`Warcrime`	`someonetalk!`
`06:54.53`	`Sixen`	`talk talk talk`
`06:54.57`	`MindWorX	`talkety`
`06:55.00`	`MindWorX	`talketi`
`06:55.01`	`Sixen`	`talkety talkety`
`06:55.02`	`MindWorX	`talk`
`06:55.08`	`Sixen`	`Mind, any cool new stuff?`
`06:55.08`	`Sixen`	`:)`
`06:55.10`	`Warcrime`	`ya`
`06:55.17`	`MindWorX	`Nah, work is pretty much it`
`06:55.22`	`MindWorX	`Oh, and it's my birthday`
`06:55.22`	`Warcrime`	`hey it works`
`06:55.27`	`Sixen`	`today?`
`06:55.29`	`MindWorX	`Yup`
`06:55.32`	`MindWorX	`Turning 23`
`06:55.32`	`Sixen`	`Happy birthday =)`
`06:55.36`	`MindWorX	`Thanksies`
`06:55.36`	`Sixen`	`Nice :D`
`06:55.40`	`onetwo`	`MINDWORX`
`06:55.41`	`onetwo`	`MINDWORX`
`06:55.43`	`onetwo`	`slowmo thing!`
`06:55.44`	`Sixen`	`let's sing`
`06:55.44`	`MindWorX	`12`
`06:55.45`	`MindWorX	`12`
`06:55.46`	`MindWorX	`:D`
`06:55.48`	`Fisker`	`so Warcrime`
`06:55.50`	`MindWorX	`I will fix it in a second :P`
`06:55.54`	`onetwo`	`woooooooooooooo`
`06:55.54`	`Fisker`	`wanna brick it?`
`06:55.58`	`Zoxc`	`2 years to possible death then.`
`06:56.00`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`He is still getting the buff even though I excluded caster from the buff specified`
`06:56.02`	`Zoxc`	`celebrates`
`06:56.15`	`MindWorX	`Maybe i should release the alpha of Sparsile toda`
`06:56.22`	`onetwo`	`na just send me slowmo thing`
`06:56.23`	`Sixen`	`I'm down.`
`06:56.24`	`onetwo`	`LOL`
`06:56.27`	`MindWorX	`lol :P`
`06:56.28`	`Warcrime`	`ya!`
`06:56.33`	`Fisker`	`slaps Sixen around a bit with a large trout`
`06:56.43`	`Fisker`	`in 2 days Blizzard hates us Sixen :(`
`06:56.43`	`Sixen`	`what's with you and slapping me?`
`06:56.46`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`06:56.53`	`Warcrime`	`hell no why would i need to!`
`06:56.54`	`Fisker`	`and i'm slapping you because i'm awesome`
`06:56.55`	`MindWorX	`I'd slap you all day long Sexen`
`06:56.59`	`Sixen`	`Kinky`
`06:58.01`	`onetwo`	`hey was "revolving door" a known way of speaking about war 3's custom game joining`
`06:58.14`	`onetwo`	`cause im noticing people are using it now`
`06:58.23`	`onetwo`	`its a good phrase`
`06:58.33`	`onetwo`	`seacrest out`
`06:58.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Deltoid, can you take a SS of the behaviors and apply behavior effect? I "think" i know what's wrong.`
`06:59.30`	`Sixen`	`lol 12`
`07:00.07`	`*** join/#sc2mapster newbie (~kvirc@c-75-65-250-108.hsd1.la.comcast.net)`
`07:00.28`	`greg`	`so.. anyone find out if it's possible to change race with triggers or DE yet?`
`07:00.47`	`newbie`	`my first impression is no, but if you can change colors with triggers i don't see why not`
`07:00.53`	`Fisker`	`so Sixen`
`07:01.00`	`Sixen`	`yaz?`
`07:01.02`	`Fisker`	`did you spend $100 million on SC2?`
`07:01.06`	`Sixen`	`just about`
`07:01.10`	`Fisker`	`:o`
`07:01.17`	`MindWorX	`How does revolving door describe war3's custom joining properly? :P`
`07:01.25`	`onetwo`	`the list of maps`
`07:01.25`	`MindWorX	`You can't like, leave and join midgame`
`07:01.27`	`onetwo`	`keeps revolving`
`07:01.28`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`ProzaicMuze, what do you think is wrong? I might be able to solve it without taking a bunch of screenshoits`
`07:01.30`	`greg`	`trying to get error alerts and tint by color to be analogous to the person's builder`
`07:01.36`	`MindWorX	`I don't like it`
`07:01.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I think you hvae one of your targets to the caster unit`
`07:01.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If this is the case, even if you exclude it it HAS to give it the buff because the effect specifically targets it`
`07:02.04`	`MindWorX	`Call it... "One Way Elevator" :D All have to get in before you go`
`07:02.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The search should be launched and located at the caster unit`
`07:02.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Where would that be located?`
`07:02.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`while the effect is launched at the source and target is target unit`
`07:02.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Effect - Search Area towards the bottom`
`07:02.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Effect - Apply Behavior towards the bottom`
`07:02.58`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Target - Launch Location?`
`07:04.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`yes`
`07:06.16`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and it should be?`
`07:06.51`	`Galois-evariste`	`next question:`
`07:07.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Which effect are you looking at Deltoid?`
`07:07.06`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`search`
`07:07.10`	`Galois-evariste`	`I have my camera following a certain unit. I want to change camera and stop following the unit, but I don't see a trigger that intuitively says that. anybody know?`
`07:08.46`	`goomba_`	`set camera x = current players camera`
`07:08.52`	`onetwo`	`k prozaic`
`07:08.55`	`onetwo`	`i did a lot of thinking`
`07:08.56`	`goomba_`	`move players camera to variable`
`07:08.58`	`onetwo`	`and have made your 5 heroes`
`07:09.01`	`goomba_`	`that could work`
`07:09.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`07:09.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`pm me`
`07:09.09`	`onetwo`	`http://pastebin.com/q0zF80Ra`
`07:09.11`	`onetwo`	`oops`
`07:09.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that works too I guess`
`07:09.15`	`onetwo`	`well its there`
`07:09.17`	`goomba_`	`hey now im curious`
`07:09.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmfao`
`07:09.37`	`MindWorX	`HAHA IM GOING TO RIP IT AND USE IT FOR MY OWN! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D`
`07:09.44`	`Sixen`	`OMG`
`07:09.46`	`Sixen`	`THIEVED`
`07:09.54`	`MindWorX	`HUZAH`
`07:10.02`	`Sixen`	`Mindworx, I jsut got a great idea for a map`
`07:10.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Deltoid - set both Target location and launch to Caster Unit`
`07:10.09`	`onetwo`	`NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO`
`07:10.10`	`Sixen`	`here, I wrote up something for it: http://pastebin.com/q0zF80Ra`
`07:10.19`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`07:10.22`	`onetwo`	`hey wtf`
`07:10.26`	`onetwo`	`i copyrighted that`
`07:10.29`	`onetwo`	`i sent it to the writers guild`
`07:10.31`	`onetwo`	`before pasting it in`
`07:10.32`	`onetwo`	`i swear`
`07:10.32`	`MindWorX	`Whoa, nice heroes there Sixen, you get ALL credit :D`
`07:10.35`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`no such thing as target location`
`07:10.38`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`07:10.50`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`target - launch location and target - impact locationa re the only things I see`
`07:11.01`	`MindWorX	`Pfft 12 ,that applies we live in a country where they respect copyright :D`
`07:11.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`impact, that's the one I was thinking off`
`07:11.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`both Launch and Impact need to be Caster Unit`
`07:11.15`	`MindWorX	`implies*`
`07:11.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`07:11.25`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`07:11.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`See, I'm the one who will destroy your soul for stealing ideas`
`07:11.38`	`MindWorX	`That's assuming i even have a soul`
`07:11.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`And since I hold th epower of tutorials. . . your soul will be ruefully destroyed and raped via text walls of death.`
`07:12.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`What, you're married?`
`07:12.22`	`onetwo`	`prozaic`
`07:12.27`	`onetwo`	`just like your morally raped this channel?`
`07:12.29`	`onetwo`	`you*`
`07:12.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes`
`07:12.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Because I'm pro rapist`
`07:12.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I practice in front of the mirror at night.`
`07:12.52`	`MindWorX	`:P`
`07:13.07`	`MindWorX	`I once raped Sexen in his sleep`
`07:13.10`	`MindWorX	`But don't tell him`
`07:13.14`	`Sixen`	`wut`
`07:13.17`	`Sixen`	`I wasn't asleep`
`07:13.20`	`Sixen`	`but don't tell Mind`
`07:13.25`	`MindWorX	`:D`
`07:13.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I was watching Sixen and Mind. . . but don't tell either of them`
`07:14.02`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`07:14.07`	`MindWorX	`This is getting creepy`
`07:14.11`	`MindWorX	`I should put on some clothes`
`07:14.13`	`onetwo`	`do you think if there was some online world in which it was 90% girls isntead of guys, theyd be having the same convo`
`07:14.41`	`MindWorX	`Yea`
`07:14.45`	`MindWorX	`The internet corrupts people`
`07:14.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`No`
`07:14.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`they'd be talking about tampons`
`07:14.59`	`onetwo`	`or would the channel not exist`
`07:15.03`	`onetwo`	`simply because theyd all speak their mind`
`07:15.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and the kinky things they like to do with them`
`07:15.07`	`onetwo`	`and 9000000 fights would break out`
`07:15.09`	`onetwo`	`and everyone would leave`
`07:15.10`	`onetwo`	`to gossip`
`07:15.11`	`onetwo`	`?`
`07:15.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You're confusing internet girls with RL girls`
`07:15.24`	`onetwo`	`inserts additional sexist comment`
`07:15.29`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`07:15.35`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`ProzaicMuze, are those circles that siege tanks and sensor towers have easy to place on a unit in addition to a behavior`
`07:15.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`internet girls are all friends from the moment they meet as part of a secret coalition against men`
`07:15.42`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and easy to change the size of`
`07:15.47`	`MindWorX	`Internet girls are different, they're all either emo or punk and in general hates life and are fat`
`07:15.48`	`MindWorX	`It's true`
`07:15.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes, it's a Range Actor`
`07:16.01`	`MindWorX	`Yes, even the girls you know that are not fat are fat`
`07:16.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`look at my Actors tutorial to see how to add range indicators`
`07:16.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Not true`
`07:16.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I dated an internet girl`
`07:16.15`	`onetwo`	`internet girls? you mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKe79ceHjtE`
`07:16.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`she was short`
`07:16.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`not fat`
`07:16.18`	`onetwo`	`LOL`
`07:16.32`	`MindWorX	`This video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.`
`07:16.35`	`MindWorX	`Pffft`
`07:16.36`	`onetwo`	`LOL`
`07:16.38`	`onetwo`	`sigh`
`07:16.41`	`onetwo`	`i hate that shit`
`07:16.46`	`onetwo`	`they have billions of dollars`
`07:16.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`YouTube got raped :(`
`07:16.49`	`MindWorX	`No kidding`
`07:16.50`	`onetwo`	`and are such nitpickers`
`07:16.52`	`onetwo`	`about stupid things`
`07:17.02`	`onetwo`	`youtube videos get like 1% compared to tv views`
`07:17.10`	`onetwo`	`one night of a shitty sitcom gets more views than the best youtube vid`
`07:17.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`"You can't post anything that might increase our business profits unless you are paying us to do so"`
`07:17.16`	`onetwo`	`yet they hound it`
`07:17.31`	`onetwo`	`and how the hell did youtube get raped`
`07:17.33`	`onetwo`	`google owns them`
`07:17.36`	`onetwo`	`google is richer than anything`
`07:17.37`	`onetwo`	`combined`
`07:17.40`	`onetwo`	`just buy everything out`
`07:17.41`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`07:17.48`	`MindWorX	`I'm google`
`07:17.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`As in companies came in and smacked them around with copyright stuff`
`07:17.54`	`onetwo`	`google ceo makes a joke of the studios`
`07:18.20`	`onetwo`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4gP6n-Uh8o there mindworx`
`07:18.23`	`onetwo`	`not that it was worth it`
`07:18.24`	`onetwo`	`hahaha`
`07:18.31`	`onetwo`	`let me guess`
`07:18.31`	`MindWorX	`This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment. It is no longer available in your country.`
`07:18.33`	`onetwo`	`doesnt work again?`
`07:18.35`	`onetwo`	`.`
`07:18.38`	`MindWorX	`xD`
`07:18.57`	`onetwo`	`well its digital girl by jamie foxx`
`07:18.58`	`onetwo`	`hahah`
`07:19.22`	`MindWorX	`I can find a bunch of remixes`
`07:19.28`	`onetwo`	`LOL ah`
`07:20.00`	`MindWorX	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXys-oAjDOk`
`07:20.01`	`MindWorX	`:D`
`07:20.14`	`onetwo`	`hmm interesting`
`07:20.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Wait`
`07:20.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Sony Music isn't allowed in some countries!?`
`07:20.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`wtf!?`
`07:20.28`	`onetwo`	`as a joke i should do massive slowmo to this song for ekcols cinematic`
`07:20.31`	`onetwo`	`and release it`
`07:20.33`	`onetwo`	`without asking him`
`07:20.39`	`onetwo`	`see how much people criticize me`
`07:20.40`	`onetwo`	`hahah`
`07:20.41`	`MindWorX	`lol :P`
`07:21.13`	`onetwo`	`opposite happens and i become the next m night shyamalan... i make airbender 2 in 5 years and then fail and die off`
`07:21.15`	`onetwo`	`and then ill be back here`
`07:24.49`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`ProzaicMuze, I did what your actor tutorial said and it's not showing up :<`
`07:25.06`	`MindWorX	`Then you prolly did something wrong :P`
`07:25.06`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`do I have to add the actor to the behavior in any way besides the Behavior field on the actor itself and the actor events?`
`07:27.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`did you use the actor events fro a behavior?`
`07:27.30`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh`
`07:27.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`And no, you don't have to add anything to the behavior. The range is controlled by the actor only.`
`07:27.41`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I figured it out, I set Behavior - Behavior to a behavior with no range`
`07:27.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`07:27.47`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`so it overwrote my 20 range`
`07:28.49`	`Galois-evariste`	`does anyone know how to turn off the default game hud?`
`07:30.39`	`MindWorX	`There's a trigger for it`
`07:30.48`	`MindWorX	`Where you can disable and enable the different parts`
`07:30.59`	`Galois-evariste`	`i found it`
`07:31.09`	`Galois-evariste`	`Its called "Show/Hide [Entire] Game UI"`
`07:31.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~seen Alpha_vst`
`07:31.11`	`purl`	`alpha_vst <~Alpha_vst@c-24-5-9-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 5d 5h 53m 34s ago, saying: 'im going to not release my map on bnet 0.o\'.`
`07:31.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Xp`
`07:31.24`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`is there any way to refer to the default command center in a melee game?`
`07:31.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that bum`
`07:31.29`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Outside of some really silly work arounds?`
`07:31.30`	`Galois-evariste`	`that ~seen thing looks pretty useful`
`07:31.33`	`Galois-evariste`	`~seen Skizot`
`07:31.34`	`purl`	`skizot <~skizot@105-189.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 25d 18h 7m 7s ago, saying: ':D'.`
`07:31.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~curse Galois-evariste`
`07:31.55`	`purl`	`May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, Galois-evariste !`
`07:32.07`	`Galois-evariste`	`that's not very nice`
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`07:33.11`	`MindWorX	`P_R_Deltoid, The "default" ?`
`07:33.16`	`MindWorX	`You mean the first?`
`07:33.22`	`MindWorX	`~curse Sixen`
`07:33.23`	`purl`	`May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, Sixen !`
`07:33.23`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`the one placed by the computer on the start location`
`07:33.24`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`yeah`
`07:33.36`	`Sixen`	`orly?`
`07:33.39`	`Sixen`	`I got Cursed`
`07:33.40`	`MindWorX	`A simple trigger should be able to do that`
`07:33.54`	`MindWorX	`Well ,you work for curse, so you must be used to it`
`07:33.59`	`MindWorX	`:D`
`07:34.01`	`Sixen`	`very much so`
`07:34.05`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`MindWorX, got any ideas?
`07:34.10`	`Galois-evariste`	`I was given curse premium for some reason and I don't know why`
`07:34.12`	`Galois-evariste`	`and I never found out`
`07:34.22`	`Galois-evariste`	`so i never used it`
`07:34.22`	`Sixen`	`Because you're cool`
`07:34.23`	`Sixen`	`:X`
`07:34.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`How exactly is curse beneficial to SC2 mappers anyways?`
`07:34.36`	`Galois-evariste`	`i wish it would've told me that when i got it!`
`07:34.37`	`MindWorX	`P_R_Deltoid, After 0.00 seconds of game time, pick every unit owned by player, loop through them until you find a command center, and that's the one you use`
`07:34.40`	`Sixen`	`It's not, PM :P`
`07:34.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`All the features seem aimed at WoW players`
`07:34.45`	`Sixen`	`well`
`07:34.47`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`was afraid it'd have to be that`
`07:34.47`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh well`
`07:34.57`	`Galois-evariste`	`ive never even heard of that thing before`
`07:35.10`	`MindWorX	`How is that bad P_R_Deltoid? :P`
`07:35.14`	`Sixen`	`Curse added an SC2 Portal to the main page`
`07:35.18`	`Sixen`	`but yeah, mapster is a curse fansite`
`07:35.20`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`there should be a default way of refering to that building`
`07:35.27`	`MindWorX	`Why? :P`
`07:35.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`psh`
`07:35.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~curse Curse`
`07:35.35`	`purl`	`May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, Curse !`
`07:35.36`	`Sixen`	`Becuase they own it`
`07:35.37`	`Sixen`	`I just run it`
`07:35.41`	`MindWorX	`Should there be a default way of referring to the 3rd built barracks too? :P`
`07:35.44`	`Sixen`	`But it was my idea :d`
`07:35.46`	`Sixen`	`oic`
`07:36.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Well I vote they add something to make winning contests worth it in SC2Mapster lol`
`07:36.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`At least in regards to Starcraft`
`07:36.27`	`Sixen`	`yeah, once SC2 goes live`
`07:36.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Since I'll get a free month. . . and. . do nothing with it.`
`07:36.53`	`Sixen`	`i'm thinking we'll get some cooler stuff`
`07:36.59`	`MindWorX	`I have WoW and actually use the curse addon :P So i could've used it`
`07:37.02`	`Sixen`	`money, perhaps`
`07:37.09`	`MindWorX	`Too bad i'm so much of a lurker to do contests`
`07:37.15`	`Sixen`	`pff`
`07:37.18`	`MindWorX	`Anyways, i'm off, gotta work for a living around here`
`07:37.18`	`Sixen`	`too cool?`
`07:37.22`	`Sixen`	`Later, mind.`
`07:37.23`	`MindWorX	`Yea, that's it`
`07:37.23`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`MindWorX, you know they are different, the 3rd barracks is arbitrary and may never exsist, the initial hub building will always exsist in a melee game
`07:37.23`	`MindWorX	`:P`
`07:37.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'd take money for contests`
`07:38.03`	`LordAbyss`	`as long as i as get some reward for atleast submitting sometihng decent :)`
`07:38.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and eventually I tihnk I should get paid for my tutorials`
`07:38.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`like`
`07:38.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`$100 per person who even looks at the name of them`
`07:38.41`	`Clord`	`greedy bastard fee? XD`
`07:38.49`	`Clord`	`I mean lol.. that would be quite fee`
`07:39.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`:D`
`07:39.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It'd definitely allow me to make more tutorials`
`07:39.29`	`Clord`	`naturally`
`07:39.37`	`Sixen`	`Abyss, I liked your archon`
`07:40.00`	`LordAbyss`	`it has a more cosmetic focus i think`
`07:40.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It's too bad I was asleep for the end of it lol`
`07:40.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I was totally gonna submit the Psyborg, but was tired :(`
`07:41.38`	`LordAbyss`	`i think i can do more with texturing`
`07:41.39`	`LordAbyss`	`hehe`
`07:41.49`	`LordAbyss`	`according to onetwo i make a sweet beach/coast setup`
`07:42.33`	`LordAbyss`	`http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8523/lightingsexy.jpg`
`07:43.50`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`http://pastebin.com/uGhqYpHE`
`07:43.53`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`why doesn't this work`
`07:43.55`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`:<`
`07:44.47`	`LordAbyss`	`events?`
`07:45.00`	`LordAbyss`	`are you using another trigger to run this`
`07:45.03`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`yes`
`07:45.15`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it runs, just added a debug to te st`
`07:47.47`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`okay so Unit - Add 1 Homefield Advantage Emitter to (Picked unit) from player VillainPlayer`
`07:47.50`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`is broken`
`07:48.05`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Added a debug message and it gets to that but it doesn't seem to work`
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`07:48.18`	`CarlosCuchilla`	`Hello`
`07:48.27`	`CarlosCuchilla`	`Oh yes REAL ID`
`07:48.44`	`Sixen`	`lmao`
`07:48.51`	`Corbo`	`Does anybody here know how can I tell how much power does my lappy consume?`
`07:49.05`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`power consumption programs`
`07:49.12`	`Corbo`	`whar`
`07:49.16`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`you mean from the wall or like... a battery eta?`
`07:49.20`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`till it's drained`
`07:49.37`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`because if it's the former, I think you might want to refer to the cord or battery or something`
`07:49.49`	`Corbo`	`battery doesn't work.`
`07:49.55`	`Corbo`	`I actually threw it up`
`07:49.58`	`Corbo`	`so... wall`
`07:50.07`	`Corbo`	`I wanna calculate how much does it cost to use per hour`
`07:50.28`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh, I see`
`07:50.29`	`Corbo`	`like, in the electric bill.`
`07:50.39`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`yeah... probably... the cord will tell you how much it CAN draw out of the wall`
`07:50.51`	`Corbo`	`cord?`
`07:50.52`	`Corbo`	`hmm`
`07:51.03`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`you see the converter, the box in ht emiddle of the cord?`
`07:51.12`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`dc ac converter or whatever`
`07:51.20`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it should have a bunch of specs on it that tell how much it takes out`
`07:51.23`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I believe`
`07:51.25`	`Corbo`	`oh I know what you mean`
`07:51.41`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`now actually calculating it from that will be difficult`
`07:51.44`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`anyways!`
`07:51.52`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I have no idea how to just give a unit a behavior`
`07:51.52`	`Corbo`	`but it only says input... output`
`07:51.54`	`Corbo`	`and 65W`
`07:51.59`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it has to be "from" something for some reason`
`07:52.03`	`Corbo`	`but 65W what?`
`07:52.09`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`w is watts.`
`07:52.09`	`Corbo`	`per mango eaten near the lappy?`
`07:52.14`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh, I see`
`07:52.16`	`Corbo`	`:P`
`07:52.20`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I dunno, there is no other writing?`
`07:52.26`	`Corbo`	`well`
`07:52.34`	`Corbo`	`the input says 120V/240V`
`07:52.42`	`Corbo`	`but that's obviously whatever it enters the converter`
`07:52.49`	`Corbo`	`and the output is what goes into my lappy`
`07:52.56`	`Corbo`	`which says it's 18.5V`
`07:53.07`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`You should be able to figure it out from that, I think. I don't know`
`07:53.13`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Electricity is confusing`
`07:53.17`	`Corbo`	`Nope.`
`07:53.24`	`Corbo`	`You can't figure out consumption from that.`
`07:53.30`	`Corbo`	`which is why I'm asking >.>`
`07:55.49`	`Corbo`	`I think I got it.`
`07:55.56`	`Corbo`	`if this info I am reading is correct`
`07:56.02`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:56.02`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:56.04`	`Corbo`	`brb going to check cost per kilowatt`
`08:00.27`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`haha shit, I had it set to player 2`
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`08:04.21`	`Corbo`	`k so`
`08:04.31`	`Corbo`	`$4.62 of the electric bill is all mine`
`08:06.10`	`Corbo`	`k bed time now`
`08:06.11`	`Corbo`	`bai`
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`08:22.02`	`goomba_`	`@sixen`
`08:22.15`	`goomba_`	`you still playin 2v2?`
`08:22.44`	`Sixen`	`I would if I had a partner`
`08:22.53`	`goomba_`	`ill play :P`
`08:23.00`	`Sixen`	`you're US, yeah?`
`08:23.04`	`goomba_`	`yeah`
`08:23.09`	`Sixen`	`I'm still on :p`
`08:23.14`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`is there any way to prevent a behavior from effecting a building through the data editor?`
`08:23.15`	`Sixen`	`Sixen 935`
`08:23.25`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I'd hate to add a conditional that cycles through all buildings every time something is made`
`08:25.20`	`Sixen`	`=/`
`08:25.22`	`Sixen`	`PM would know`
`08:25.28`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`ProzaicMuze, come back`
`08:25.31`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`commmeee backkk`
`08:25.33`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I need to moooooch`
`08:25.41`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`08:25.43`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`is there even a building flag, I wonder`
`08:26.20`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`:structure"`
`08:26.24`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that seems to be it`
`08:29.19`	`AxlYin`	`I have a giant flaming larva that shoots lazers and burns things near it with it's buff called "FIRE! - YOU'RE ON FIRE, YES!"`
`08:31.58`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`AxlYin, can you think of a solution to my question?`
`08:32.20`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it seems I need a validator that checks if the target unit is a structure`
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`08:33.29`	`AxlYin`	`hrm`
`08:33.56`	`AxlYin`	`specific structure?`
`08:33.57`	`AxlYin`	`or just buildings in general`
`08:34.03`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`buildings in general`
`08:34.13`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I was htinking of using the Validator - Remove field`
`08:34.23`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and creating a validator that checked if it had the structure flag`
`08:34.26`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`ie: is a building`
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`08:37.12`	`AxlYin`	`ok what are you trying to do`
`08:37.15`	`AxlYin`	`cause I may have found it`
`08:37.29`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Every actual unit has timed life when created, but all buildings do not`
`08:37.37`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`so I apply the effect through triggers on unit creation`
`08:38.00`	`AxlYin`	`easier way to do that`
`08:38.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and the created unit gets the behavior which simply, on experation, does the timed life kill effect`
`08:38.22`	`AxlYin`	`easier way to do that`
`08:38.27`	`AxlYin`	`without triggers`
`08:38.28`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`alright, go ahead`
`08:38.31`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Naw, I need the triggers`
`08:38.35`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`It has to be able to turn on and off`
`08:38.43`	`AxlYin`	`ah`
`08:38.44`	`AxlYin`	`well`
`08:38.45`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Yeah`
`08:38.53`	`AxlYin`	`wait`
`08:38.54`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I want the actual timed life to be self contained`
`08:38.55`	`AxlYin`	`why o.O`
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`08:38.59`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it's a handicap map`
`08:39.05`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`one player will have all his units timed life.`
`08:39.18`	`AxlYin`	`hm`
`08:39.28`	`AxlYin`	`oh`
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`08:39.37`	`AxlYin`	`on the effect of the behavior`
`08:39.41`	`AxlYin`	`just go to filters`
`08:39.44`	`AxlYin`	`turn off structure`
`08:40.12`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`wait what`
`08:40.23`	`AxlYin`	`it goes behavior > effect yes?`
`08:40.23`	`LordAbyss`	`http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o17/LordAbyssPhotos/?action=view&current=Terrain019.jpg`
`08:40.26`	`LordAbyss`	`what do you guys think?`
`08:40.27`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`yeah`
`08:40.32`	`AxlYin`	`1 sec lord`
`08:40.36`	`AxlYin`	`go to the effect`
`08:40.43`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`alright`
`08:40.50`	`AxlYin`	`what type of effect is it`
`08:41.00`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Damage`
`08:41.05`	`AxlYin`	`ok`
`08:41.07`	`AxlYin`	`so on damage`
`08:41.20`	`AxlYin`	`go to search filters`
`08:41.34`	`AxlYin`	`scroll down to structure`
`08:41.38`	`slightlyrandom`	`Why are the protoss protecting what looks like a terran installation ?`
`08:41.39`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`well the problem I see here is that it'll apply the behavior but just won't fire the effect at the end, so the timed life bar will still show no matter what`
`08:41.40`	`AxlYin`	`and double click it until it says excluded`
`08:41.41`	`slightlyrandom`	`LordAbyss:`
`08:42.08`	`AxlYin`	`ok so have the trigger apply an effect that is apply behavior`
`08:42.09`	`AxlYin`	`so it goes`
`08:42.24`	`AxlYin`	`trigger > apply buff effect > behavior > damage`
`08:42.28`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it's apply a behavior that applies the effect.`
`08:42.29`	`AxlYin`	`and on teh apply buff`
`08:42.31`	`AxlYin`	`do that`
`08:42.32`	`AxlYin`	`ah`
`08:42.38`	`AxlYin`	`so it goes apply buff`
`08:42.40`	`AxlYin`	`behavior`
`08:42.43`	`AxlYin`	`damage`
`08:42.44`	`AxlYin`	`?`
`08:42.44`	`LordAbyss`	`@slightly its actually protecting the library`
`08:42.55`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I think?`
`08:43.01`	`LordAbyss`	`which is more protoss but i wanted it to be kind of on the outskirts of a city`
`08:43.10`	`AxlYin`	`cool looking lord`
`08:43.17`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I give a behavior with a duration, with Show Duration on, and in the Effect - Expire Effect I have the effect that kills the unit.`
`08:43.24`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Which is also used by the mule`
`08:43.32`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I basically copied this entire thing from the mule`
`08:43.35`	`AxlYin`	`ok so you just add 1 step`
`08:43.40`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`alright`
`08:43.50`	`AxlYin`	`make your trigger instead of apply a behavior`
`08:43.54`	`AxlYin`	`apply the effect "apply buff"`
`08:44.04`	`AxlYin`	`then use that effect to apply the behavior`
`08:44.13`	`AxlYin`	`and on teh apply buff effect, go to search filters`
`08:44.16`	`AxlYin`	`and turn off structure`
`08:44.41`	`AxlYin`	`wait hm`
`08:44.56`	`AxlYin`	`no search filters in apply buff`
`08:45.01`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`indeed there arn't`
`08:45.03`	`AxlYin`	`ok`
`08:45.07`	`AxlYin`	`1 MORE step`
`08:45.13`	`AxlYin`	`it has to go`
`08:45.36`	`AxlYin`	`search > apply buff effect > behavior > damage`
`08:45.57`	`AxlYin`	`and turn off structure in search`
`08:46.17`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`can I do a search area effect without setting Areas?`
`08:46.18`	`AxlYin`	`and just make the search area like .1`
`08:46.24`	`AxlYin`	`actually`
`08:46.29`	`AxlYin`	`er no`
`08:46.31`	`AxlYin`	`but`
`08:46.33`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I set the arc to 0`
`08:46.34`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`lol`
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`08:46.46`	`AxlYin`	`try just setting the radius to 0`
`08:47.27`	`AxlYin`	`and in your search effect, turn off structure`
`08:47.35`	`AxlYin`	`so that should stop structures from getting the behavior all together`
`08:48.00`	`AxlYin`	`hey LordAbyss`
`08:48.33`	`LordAbyss`	`yes?`
`08:48.48`	`AxlYin`	`what are those arrows for`
`08:48.58`	`AxlYin`	`I haven't looked into that yet and i've been curious`
`08:49.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`critters`
`08:49.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`well`
`08:49.14`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`like birds`
`08:49.15`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and stuff`
`08:49.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`they don't actually show up`
`08:49.24`	`AxlYin`	`ahhhhhh`
`08:49.29`	`LordAbyss`	`birds`
`08:49.47`	`AxlYin`	`so if you just put 4 in a loop the critter would just run in circles?`
`08:50.03`	`AxlYin`	`or whatever the birds and shit are`
`08:50.43`	`AxlYin`	`you get it to work P_R_Deltoid?`
`08:50.56`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`naw, nothing has it now, just stweaking stuff and checking my links`
`08:51.00`	`AxlYin`	`ah`
`08:51.11`	`AxlYin`	`alright well i've got to crash ppl`
`08:51.12`	`AxlYin`	`5 am`
`08:51.21`	`AxlYin`	`let me know how it turns out`
`08:51.22`	`AxlYin`	`night`
`08:56.59`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`woot, got it`
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`09:06.15`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`well, I learned a lot about the data editor`
`09:06.18`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`hurray`
`09:08.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`:D`
`09:14.36`	`Dkrchris`	`awsome i got my map to work, no more dropping /o/`
`09:17.59`	`FrozenFirebat`	`A while back, I remember seeing somebody make a spell that had a cast bar appear over the unit casting it... anybody know how that's accomplished?`
`09:18.31`	`slightlyrandom`	`Make the spell channeled and enable the cast bar flag?`
`09:18.40`	`FrozenFirebat`	`there's a cast bar flag?`
`09:18.44`	`slightlyrandom`	`There is`
`09:19.15`	`slightlyrandom`	`I seem to recall using it to show the duration of fungal growth on units hit by it`
`09:19.48`	`onetwo`	`frozenfirebat`
`09:19.51`	`onetwo`	`i do it in my rpg`
`09:19.59`	`onetwo`	`theres a field on abilities`
`09:20.02`	`onetwo`	`for progress time`
`09:20.08`	`onetwo`	`then i think you have to check a flag`
`09:20.10`	`onetwo`	`to show progress`
`09:20.15`	`onetwo`	`somewhere near that field`
`09:20.22`	`onetwo`	`and then Progress Buttons + field`
`09:20.35`	`onetwo`	`needs your ability button for the progress line`
`09:20.38`	`onetwo`	`thats about it`
`09:20.40`	`slightlyrandom`	`Ah yes, progress bar`
`09:20.52`	`slightlyrandom`	`Close, but no cookies for me`
`09:22.01`	`FrozenFirebat`	`Thx... found it`
`09:23.49`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Yeah`
`09:23.54`	`Repo`	`New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/wild-aiurfrica-work-progress/. Wild Aiurfrica (Work in progress). 38dedo (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux.`
`09:23.56`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh`
`09:23.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`too late`
`09:23.58`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`wops`
`09:24.09`	`slightlyrandom`	`It is NEVER too late`
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`09:25.07`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`his question was answered and he solved it`
`09:25.41`	`onetwo`	`if you guys see mindworx talking later`
`09:25.43`	`onetwo`	`when i leave`
`09:25.47`	`onetwo`	`bug him to finish my slowmo thing`
`09:25.48`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`09:26.00`	`FrozenFirebat`	`ohh that's so convienient.`
`09:26.13`	`FrozenFirebat`	`when my "Healer" right clicks on a unit, it spams the medivac heal`
`09:26.22`	`FrozenFirebat`	`right click again on the unit, it casts it's casted heal`
`09:26.25`	`vjeux`	`~seen Acemore`
`09:26.27`	`purl`	`acemore is currently on #sc2mapster (20h 30m 35s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 13h 43m, last said: 'what about it?'.`
`09:35.48`	`Sixen`	`hai vjeux`
`09:37.06`	`vjeux`	`hey Sixen`
`09:37.11`	`vjeux`	`you must play RAD`
`09:37.13`	`vjeux`	`this is so much fun`
`09:37.20`	`Sixen`	`I just watched his second dev diary`
`09:37.27`	`Sixen`	`team deathmatch looks awesome`
`09:37.43`	`vjeux`	`you know what, we need to make it page 1 :)`
`09:37.52`	`Sixen`	`definitely :p`
`09:38.11`	`onetwo`	`lol 2 admins talking together in public chat`
`09:38.13`	`onetwo`	`looks like he paid you guys`
`09:38.15`	`onetwo`	`to have that convo`
`09:38.16`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`09:38.17`	`Sixen`	`lawl`
`09:38.37`	`Sixen`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:38.38`	`Sixen`	`oops`
`09:38.41`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`09:38.42`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`09:39.06`	`Sixen`	`Me and Goomba are playing 2s`
`09:39.06`	`Sixen`	`:D`
`09:39.07`	`onetwo`	`lets hope maps like that`
`09:39.09`	`onetwo`	`can take down`
`09:39.13`	`onetwo`	`"___________ arena"`
`09:39.17`	`onetwo`	`"__________ wars"`
`09:39.19`	`Sixen`	`:x`
`09:39.24`	`onetwo`	`need something refreshing imo`
`09:39.50`	`onetwo`	`more and more people are finishing good maps`
`09:39.50`	`onetwo`	`now`
`09:39.51`	`onetwo`	`its awesome`
`09:40.00`	`slightlyrandom`	`Sixen: What kind of hax did you use to find the second dev diary ?`
`09:40.10`	`Sixen`	`He showed it to me before he's making it public`
`09:40.11`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`09:40.16`	`slightlyrandom`	`The bastard`
`09:40.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`upload it to the tube, eh?`
`09:40.24`	`slightlyrandom`	`Please?`
`09:40.29`	`FrozenFirebat`	`Stats - Energy Regeneration Delay200.0000 <---- I think the Delay is broken and doesn't work XD`
`09:40.31`	`Sixen`	`:X`
`09:41.17`	`onetwo`	`wheres the first one`
`09:41.22`	`onetwo`	`or was the first one the demo`
`09:43.18`	`slightlyrandom`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oujo6oQrz4`
`09:43.59`	`vjeux`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQqDzZY7g5U`
`09:44.23`	`slightlyrandom`	`:D`
`09:45.27`	`onetwo`	`looks so cool, im a bit concerned about camera delay though`
`09:45.38`	`onetwo`	`and he mentions terrain... i think some detail on the walls would help`
`09:45.43`	`onetwo`	`maybe some foliage generation`
`09:45.48`	`onetwo`	`and make the terrain a bit more hilly`
`09:45.51`	`onetwo`	`instead of flat`
`09:45.55`	`onetwo`	`then its perfect`
`09:46.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`:)`
`09:46.09`	`onetwo`	`maybe some interesting lighting too`
`09:46.11`	`onetwo`	`bit gray atm`
`09:46.37`	`onetwo`	`his map design in terms of gameplay is awesome though`
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`09:54.39`	`Sixen`	`Heya fgenesis :)`
`09:58.18`	`Mittsies`	`rocket area looks neat`
`09:58.23`	`Mittsies`	`also that guys voice is sexy.`
`09:59.03`	`onetwo`	`his accent sneaks in every so often`
`09:59.04`	`onetwo`	`hehe`
`09:59.11`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`10:01.19`	`Mittsies`	`he uses the sounds from Heroes of Newerth`
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`10:03.47`	`slightlyrandom`	`He needs to hide the unused part of the map on the minimap :P`
`10:04.34`	`Mittsies`	`How can you get people to actually join this game?`
`10:04.45`	`slightlyrandom`	`Hope, pray and wait`
`10:04.49`	`Mittsies`	`yeah..`
`10:04.49`	`slightlyrandom`	`Or spam the create game button`
`10:05.00`	`Mittsies`	`WC3's thing works better for less maps`
`10:05.09`	`slightlyrandom`	`That is, fool the system into thinking the map is more popular than it is, to compete with others doing the same`
`10:05.11`	`slightlyrandom`	`Awesomeness`
`10:05.26`	`Mittsies`	`they better have a more updated version of this custom games list`
`10:05.31`	`Mittsies`	`because current it is awful`
`10:05.35`	`slightlyrandom`	`It'll come soon (TM)`
`10:05.50`	`Mittsies`	`also, question about the GE`
`10:06.14`	`Mittsies`	`did they make "spire - upgrade" intuitive yet, or is it still awkward and broken?`
`10:07.21`	`onetwo`	`yeah the custom game list is being looked at`
`10:07.23`	`onetwo`	`dustin browder said`
`10:07.25`	`onetwo`	`so its a big deal`
`10:07.44`	`onetwo`	`i dont think the DOTA issue will actually be the same problem`
`10:07.45`	`onetwo`	`in sc2`
`10:07.47`	`onetwo`	`because we can do a lot more`
`10:08.01`	`onetwo`	`but even with 9/10 games being dota, you could still host XX map you wanted to play and get a game going`
`10:08.02`	`onetwo`	`randomly`
`10:08.06`	`onetwo`	`a year old map etc`
`10:08.11`	`onetwo`	`and thats the problem right now`
`10:08.25`	`onetwo`	`we cant`
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`10:08.44`	`Chevron`	`spoiler alert!`
`10:08.48`	`vjeux`	`?`
`10:08.49`	`Chevron`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR1aLLtOnEo&feature=related`
`10:09.03`	`vjeux`	`October 15!?`
`10:09.04`	`Chevron`	`shoving ingame movie concept`
`10:09.19`	`Chevron`	`from blizzcon 2008`
`10:09.22`	`onetwo`	`old?`
`10:09.25`	`Chevron`	`old`
`10:09.35`	`Chevron`	`but this is gonna be in game`
`10:09.48`	`onetwo`	`october 15th?`
`10:09.49`	`onetwo`	`what about it`
`10:10.44`	`Mittsies`	`isn't that when blizzcon 2010 happens?`
`10:11.06`	`Mittsies`	`no wait, that's 22~`
`10:13.09`	`Galois-evariste`	`october 22 is blizzcon 2010?`
`10:13.12`	`Galois-evariste`	`holy shit that's my birthday`
`10:13.14`	`Galois-evariste`	`oh my god`
`10:13.15`	`Galois-evariste`	`omgomgomg`
`10:13.15`	`Sixen`	`yeah haha`
`10:13.26`	`Galois-evariste`	`does anyone else hear that?`
`10:13.32`	`Galois-evariste`	`i hear someone calling for me`
`10:13.35`	`Galois-evariste`	`oh my`
`10:14.14`	`onetwo`	`thats a long name`
`10:14.14`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`10:14.34`	`Sixen`	`dats wut she sed`
`10:16.23`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`10:16.28`	`onetwo`	`hey bug mindworx if he talks`
`10:16.31`	`onetwo`	`make him make my slowmo app`
`10:16.32`	`onetwo`	`byebye`
`10:17.20`	`vjeux`	`omg news`
`10:17.21`	`Repo`	`New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/rad-psyborg-arachnid-model/`
`10:17.30`	`vjeux`	`play RAD :)`
`10:25.02`	`Saeris`	`yawn`
`10:25.30`	`Saeris`	`there's not enough people online this later for me to do a recording of my map =(`
`10:25.34`	`Saeris`	`late*`
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`10:37.18`	`goomba_`	`me and sixen 7-1 were tuff shit`
`10:37.24`	`Sixen`	`pwnsauce`
`10:37.52`	`slightlyrandom`	`Just finished the newbie games ?`
`10:38.04`	`Sixen`	`nah`
`10:52.39`	`Phaos`	`fffff`
`10:56.48`	`slightlyrandom`	`ggggg`
`11:07.48`	`Phaos`	`hhhhhhh`
`11:07.56`	`slightlyrandom`	`xxx`
`11:11.31`	`Fisker`	`in my dreams Sixen`
`11:11.54`	`Fisker`	`btw Sixen`
`11:12.00`	`Fisker`	`when will we get to buy the blizzcon streams?`
`11:12.03`	`Fisker`	`you should know shit like that`
`11:13.54`	`Sixen`	`soon? :X`
`11:14.00`	`Sixen`	`Usually just before it`
`11:16.24`	`Fisker`	`aaah`
`11:16.30`	`Fisker`	`2009 was up a few months before i believe`
`11:16.34`	`Fisker`	`when is the next blizzcon`
`11:16.39`	`Fisker`	`next month right?`
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`11:18.15`	`Sixen`	`october`
`11:19.12`	`Fisker`	`oh`
`11:19.15`	`Sixen`	`k, i'm goin' to bed.`
`11:19.24`	`Fisker`	`3 months :(`
`11:19.27`	`Fisker`	`don't do it Sixen`
`11:19.28`	`Fisker`	`i love you`
`11:19.38`	`Fisker`	`(just kidding)`
`11:24.49`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`meow`
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`11:29.56`	`Bibendus`	`hey guyz`
`11:30.04`	`Bibendus`	`what's the key to hide the replays progress bar?`
`11:30.28`	`slightlyrandom`	`Doesn't exists`
`11:30.46`	`Fisker`	`what's the key to install SC2`
`11:30.49`	`Bibendus`	`i've seen an jusky video`
`11:30.49`	`Bibendus`	`oh`
`11:30.54`	`Bibendus`	`maybe it was not a replay`
`11:30.55`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`11:31.00`	`slightlyrandom`	`Bibendus: That's because it's a live game`
`11:31.15`	`Bibendus`	`yy`
`11:31.18`	`Bibendus`	`i figured it now`
`11:31.18`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
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`13:03.48`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`meow`
`13:05.31`	`Phaos`	`no such thing helral`
`13:10.24`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`meow`
`13:10.41`	`Phaos`	`helral`
`13:11.01`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`meow?`
`13:11.17`	`Phaos`	`your not a real cat`
`13:11.27`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`meows`
`13:11.46`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`goes into hunting mode....`
`13:12.00`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`crawls stealthy around the room searching for anything that moves.`
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`13:13.11`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`stops moving and starts observing Phaos to determine the right moment to strike.`
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`13:13.49`	`Twiner`	`turns on his laser pointer and proceeds to begin to draw SC2MapsterKitten's attention to a wall with a big bouncing red dot target`
`13:14.17`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`starts observing the red dot.`
`13:14.39`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`tries to catch the red dot (and slowly drains the laser pointer's energy)`
`13:15.41`	`slightlyrandom`	`fetches the catnip`
`13:15.55`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`uses his newly gained laser eyes to burn the catnip`
`13:19.03`	`Phaos`	`O.o`
`13:19.15`	`Phaos`	`helral you can't have laser eyes`
`13:19.22`	`Phaos`	`your a cat, not mothra`
`13:21.43`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`http://xkcd.com/729/`
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`13:25.35`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`meows`
`13:26.59`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`yay I've got my first predefined room done XD`
`13:30.01`	`Fisker`	`slaps SC2MapsterKitten around a bit with a large trout`
`13:30.11`	`Mittsies`	`since when did this IRC become a furry roleplay chatroom?`
`13:30.27`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`it always was meow`
`13:30.34`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`you just never noticed it meow`
`13:31.53`	`Mittsies`	`well`
`13:32.01`	`Mittsies`	`a cat -is- fine too.`
`13:32.12`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`meows`
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`13:32.30`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`is enjoying a trout as lunch.`
`13:51.20`	`Phaos`	`phew this is an on going thing`
`13:52.13`	`SC2MapsterKitten`	`what?`
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`14:12.06`	`Ashamed`	`Hey good morning`
`14:12.09`	`Ashamed`	`doing some OT :(`
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`14:12.11`	`Helral`	`meow`
`14:12.15`	`Ashamed`	`WOOF`
`14:12.21`	`Helral`	`hiss`
`14:12.29`	`Ashamed`	`GRRRRR`
`14:12.30`	`Helral`	`swipes at the doggie`
`14:12.41`	`Ashamed`	`chases cat`
`14:12.55`	`Helral`	`charges the dog and swipes at him again.`
`14:13.22`	`Helral`	`nothing to chase if I don't run away XD`
`14:14.04`	`Helral`	`and you also got some On-Topic stuff?`
`14:14.44`	`Ashamed`	`off topic?`
`14:14.48`	`Ashamed`	`like what shits in the fan?`
`14:16.08`	`Phaos`	`so negative`
`14:16.14`	`Helral`	`meow?`
`14:18.50`	`Mittsies`	`: \|`
`14:18.51`	`Ashamed`	`WUFF`
`14:19.18`	`Helral`	`what's it Mittsies?`
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`14:24.49`	`Mittsies`	`just.. just :\|`
`14:25.12`	`Helral`	`why just :\|`
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`14:28.08`	`Saeris`	`hmmmm`
`14:28.22`	`Saeris`	`someone here want to help me out?`
`14:28.50`	`Helral`	`what's the problem?`
`14:28.57`	`Saeris`	`i'm trying to add a timed life behavior to units i made with a trigger`
`14:28.59`	`Saeris`	`now`
`14:29.18`	`Saeris`	`i think i've gotten the timer behavior on them, but there's no actual timer bar on the unit`
`14:29.31`	`Saeris`	`i'm talkin about the timer bars you get on like, MULES`
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`14:29.48`	`Saeris`	`any idea how i can add one of those?`
`14:29.49`	`ekcolnvkol`	`weeps blood`
`14:30.04`	`ekcolnovkol`	`my chat logs are being poasted in places D;`
`14:30.14`	`ekcolnovkol`	`something about me wanting to kill people in california`
`14:30.43`	`Magesblood`	`WHAT`
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`14:31.23`	`Helral`	`Saeris hmmmm.... I'll take a look at what it says for the normal mule.`
`14:32.01`	`Saeris`	`yea, that's where i got the timed life function from, looking myself to try and find the bar behavior`
`14:32.32`	`Saeris`	`i just duplicated Mule - Timed Life for what i have working now`
`14:33.13`	`Helral`	`I think it is just that one....`
`14:33.22`	`Helral`	`do you have the Stats - Duration set there?`
`14:33.40`	`Saeris`	`iunno where that would be`
`14:33.50`	`Helral`	`at the effect.`
`14:34.10`	`Saeris`	`oh, right, yes i use that behavior to set the duration`
`14:35.37`	`slightlyrandom`	`You need to enable the Flag for it to show up Saeris`
`14:35.43`	`slightlyrandom`	`Progress or something like that`
`14:35.55`	`slightlyrandom`	`On the... either the effect or the behavior`
`14:35.58`	`Helral`	`Behvaior - Buff Flags --> countdown?`
`14:36.02`	`Helral`	`behavior*`
`14:36.13`	`Helral`	`got that one checked?`
`14:36.26`	`Helral`	`on the timed life behavior.`
`14:36.31`	`Saeris`	`yea that's there`
`14:36.50`	`Saeris`	`like really, i duplicated the mule timed life, changed the name and upped the duration`
`14:36.55`	`Saeris`	`the rest should all be the same`
`14:37.00`	`Saeris`	`yet the bar doesn't show`
`14:37.25`	`Helral`	`duplicating stuff doesn't always copy everything exactly :S do you have an effect that happends when it expires?`
`14:38.00`	`Saeris`	`yea`
`14:38.10`	`Saeris`	`timed life fate`
`14:39.40`	`Saeris`	`1 sec`
`14:39.47`	`Saeris`	`i might just be dumb here`
`14:40.15`	`Helral`	`uncheck the behavior flag: Stats - Flags --> Hidden. and check if the unit has the behavior XD`
`14:40.33`	`Saeris`	`okay`
`14:40.38`	`Saeris`	`i screwed up myself`
`14:40.52`	`Helral`	`lol unit didn't get the behavior or what?`
`14:40.52`	`Saeris`	`i thought i was editing package 1, so i spawned that when i was in game checking it`
`14:41.01`	`Saeris`	`it was actualy on package 9`
`14:41.02`	`Helral`	`ahhh... wrong unit?`
`14:41.07`	`Saeris`	`tried again, and sure enough its there`
`14:41.12`	`Saeris`	`so, it works!`
`14:41.13`	`Saeris`	`yay`
`14:41.15`	`Helral`	`XD`
`14:41.19`	`Saeris`	`i`
`14:41.25`	`Saeris`	`'m glad i got this working too`
`14:41.58`	`Saeris`	`cuz the other method i was using to kill limited duration units kept threads running for 3 minutes until they died, then caused a hell of a lot of lag on top of that`
`14:42.10`	`Saeris`	`because another trigger went off when the unit was killed`
`14:42.20`	`Saeris`	`this will work better`
`14:42.45`	`Saeris`	`yup, triggers didn't bitch at me when the units died`
`14:42.46`	`Saeris`	`huzzah`
`14:44.26`	`Saeris`	`see, for my golem map, you can get packages of combo golems`
`14:44.32`	`Saeris`	`which can be quite overpowered`
`14:44.40`	`Saeris`	`so all the packages now have a 3 minute duration`
`14:45.08`	`Saeris`	`effectively giving the player a temporary killing spree`
`14:45.29`	`Helral`	`XD`
`14:47.01`	`Saeris`	`there's just one more thing i should do before i release this update`
`14:47.22`	`Saeris`	`i needa work out the mysterious egg`
`14:47.42`	`Saeris`	`it's a special combo golem that gives you a random combo golem after some time`
`14:48.01`	`Saeris`	`i'd have to do it with triggers somehow`
`14:51.14`	`Saeris`	`fuck it, the unit is created event doesn't do what i expected it to`
`14:51.21`	`Saeris`	`i'll deal with this later`
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`15:04.49`	`Helral`	`meow`
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`15:05.15`	`Magesblood`	`LFM Rad ><`
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`15:34.04`	`Mittsies`	`is there some speedy way of making lots of units for a tower defense or no?`
`15:34.41`	`Helral`	`create X units with default facing?`
`15:36.37`	`Mittsies`	`No I mean, like, in the data editor`
`15:36.42`	`Mittsies`	`lots of different units`
`15:37.42`	`Mittsies`	`each unit requires you to change dozens of variables; it's a rather tedious process when you compare it to WC3's editor. Is there no 'quick way' people have stumbled upon?`
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`15:42.08`	`Mittsies`	`Guess not.`
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`15:42.20`	`Vulfe`	`hola`
`15:43.27`	`Vulfe`	`wow`
`15:43.29`	`Vulfe`	`warm welcome`
`15:43.30`	`Vulfe`	`thanks guys`
`15:43.34`	`Mittsies`	`Haha`
`15:43.36`	`Mittsies`	`Hey Vulfe`
`15:43.47`	`Mittsies`	`are you experienced with the editor?`
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`15:44.10`	`Vulfe`	`in some areas`
`15:44.11`	`Vulfe`	`why`
`15:44.26`	`Mittsies`	`Hm.`
`15:44.36`	`Vulfe`	`Do you need help with something in particular?`
`15:44.36`	`Mittsies`	`do you know how to make lots of different units with the data editor quickly?`
`15:44.47`	`Vulfe`	`What kind of units`
`15:44.48`	`Vulfe`	`like...`
`15:44.50`	`Vulfe`	`units for a TD?`
`15:44.54`	`Vulfe`	`to send?`
`15:46.08`	`Mittsies`	`Yep.`
`15:46.21`	`Acemore`	`Vulfe!`
`15:46.22`	`Acemore`	`you gotta come`
`15:46.24`	`Acemore`	`omg`
`15:46.32`	`Vulfe`	`I would make one simple unit (only can like move, basically)`
`15:46.37`	`Vulfe`	`and then copy/paste or whatever`
`15:46.40`	`Mittsies`	`hm`
`15:46.44`	`Mittsies`	`But each unit requires you to change dozens of variables. Is there no 'quick way' to do it?`
`15:46.52`	`Vulfe`	`hmm`
`15:46.56`	`Acemore`	`Vulfe!`
`15:46.58`	`Vulfe`	`not that I know of`
`15:46.59`	`Vulfe`	`Acemore`
`15:47.01`	`Acemore`	`RAD with Team vs Team`
`15:47.01`	`Vulfe`	`I have to take a shower`
`15:47.03`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`15:47.03`	`Acemore`	`insane`
`15:47.10`	`Acemore`	`we just did a 4v4`
`15:47.10`	`Vulfe`	`I'm going to miss brunch`
`15:47.13`	`Acemore`	`it's so fun`
`15:47.14`	`Mittsies`	`Acemore your map is awesome and your voice is sexy.`
`15:47.14`	`Vulfe`	`if I don't take a shower right now`
`15:47.15`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`15:47.22`	`Acemore`	`lol Mittsies ty :)`
`15:47.28`	`Mittsies`	`no, seriously`
`15:47.34`	`Mittsies`	`I love your voice (and your map)`
`15:47.39`	`Helral`	`with duplicate unit you can copy an entire unit, so you only have to change what is needed.... (but this might still be a lot.)`
`15:47.47`	`casperb`	`But my voice is sexier!`
`15:47.53`	`casperb`	`And my map is cooler :-P`
`15:48.02`	`Vulfe`	`which map is yours, casper?`
`15:48.19`	`casperb`	`Vaporware :D`
`15:48.32`	`Mittsies`	`Helral, I still need things like it's actor, it's button, a way to upgrade the unit, etc.`
`15:48.32`	`Vulfe`	`never heard of it`
`15:48.45`	`casperb`	`Vaporware == software that never gets finished`
`15:48.56`	`Vulfe`	`oh`
`15:48.57`	`Vulfe`	`yeah.`
`15:48.58`	`Vulfe`	`well`
`15:49.01`	`Vulfe`	`I'm productive`
`15:49.16`	`Vulfe`	`working on the trigger structure for the map today..`
`15:49.20`	`Vulfe`	`which is essentially half the map`
`15:49.37`	`Vulfe`	`I need to make a good looking platform for the map tho... like... this one seems a tad too cluttered to me.`
`15:49.41`	`Mittsies`	`all my triggers are done -- I just can't be helped to make the units : (`
`15:49.58`	`casperb`	`Mittsies: Have to do it the hard way, data entries`
`15:50.22`	`casperb`	`Which really isn't that much work, a day at most to get towers done`
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`15:51.00`	`Mittsies`	`Is there at least an easy way to do the "upgrade" thingie, or do you have to manually set-up the events?`
`15:51.21`	`casperb`	`Upgrade can be done trough upgrades or specializations`
`15:51.22`	`Vulfe`	`http://tinypic.com/r/96ahpg/3`
`15:51.24`	`Vulfe`	`bleh`
`15:51.25`	`Vulfe`	`ugly`
`15:51.26`	`Vulfe`	`: (`
`15:52.01`	`Mittsies`	`what's the easiest way to do it, I'll do that.`
`15:52.04`	`Vulfe`	`the buildable area is supposed to be the metal`
`15:52.17`	`Mittsies`	`I've been using spire's upgrade ability then manually creating the events -- pain in the butt`
`15:52.37`	`Vulfe`	`All right`
`15:52.42`	`Vulfe`	`time to go be emo about my map in the shower`
`15:52.44`	`Vulfe`	`see you guys later`
`15:53.08`	`casperb`	`TMI?`
`15:53.24`	`casperb`	`Mittsies: upgrades are per unit type, specializations are per unit`
`15:53.37`	`Vulfe`	`Lol.`
`15:53.42`	`Mittsies`	`hm, do I have to set up the events manually for either?`
`15:53.47`	`slightlyrandom`	`Mittsies: There aren't THAT many shortcuts`
`15:53.49`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yes`
`15:53.52`	`slightlyrandom`	`You do :)`
`15:53.56`	`casperb`	`Nah no events involved`
`15:54.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`You need to event the actors away and event the new one in`
`15:54.12`	`slightlyrandom`	`On Upgrade`
`15:54.16`	`Mittsies`	`can't I do it with triggers?`
`15:54.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`Well, you can`
`15:54.28`	`Mittsies`	`I love doing everything dynamically -- static crap makes me rage.`
`15:54.31`	`slightlyrandom`	`But it honestly isn't that hard to do with the data editor`
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`15:54.49`	`casperb`	`data != static`
`15:55.01`	`Mittsies`	`I mean having to redo work I've already done`
`15:55.07`	`Mittsies`	`i.e. no functions`
`15:55.15`	`casperb`	`just handled in the core engine rather than slowpoke galaxy script`
`15:55.24`	`Helral`	`Mittsies: you like random stuff as well?`
`15:55.32`	`slightlyrandom`	`random is awesome`
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`15:55.53`	`Mittsies`	`random?`
`15:55.56`	`Mittsies`	`what about it.`
`15:56.12`	`Helral`	`like Random dungeon generators and such XD`
`15:56.13`	`slightlyrandom`	`I thought about doing an infinite mode`
`15:56.14`	`Vailreth`	`hello all`
`15:56.19`	`Helral`	`meow`
`15:56.23`	`slightlyrandom`	`Where mods spawn at random from a list of mobs`
`15:56.24`	`casperb`	`voff`
`15:56.29`	`Mittsies`	`yeah that's neat stuff`
`15:56.36`	`slightlyrandom`	`Set HP and speed with a formula`
`15:56.37`	`Vailreth`	`what are specializations i have seen them but i do not understand what they are`
`15:56.38`	`slightlyrandom`	`aaaaand go`
`15:56.56`	`slightlyrandom`	`Sadly you can't slow down mobs who has had their speed adjusted in triggers`
`15:57.01`	`slightlyrandom`	`At least I couldn't make it work`
`15:57.08`	`Helral`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/2407-helrals-random-dungeon-map/`
`15:57.10`	`Helral`	`XD`
`15:57.32`	`slightlyrandom`	`Or at least you couldn't before`
`15:57.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`They might have fixed it`
`15:59.40`	`casperb`	`Specializations are per-instance upgrades`
`16:01.26`	`Exso`	`what do the powerup fields on units do?`
`16:02.52`	`Vailreth`	`i too was wondering that`
`16:04.11`	`Exso`	`i tested it once but it didn't seem to do anything`
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`16:06.00`	`Vailreth`	`how did you test it?`
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`16:11.12`	`Exso`	`just put an effect in it and tried to proc it, doesn't really matter I guess.. probably not implemented yet`
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`16:16.52`	`slightlyrandom`	`Hey!`
`16:16.55`	`slightlyrandom`	`I'm famous!`
`16:17.21`	`slightlyrandom`	`http://www.z33k.com/`
`16:17.25`	`Vulfe`	`I've never heard of you`
`16:17.43`	`ekcolnovkol`	`lmao`
`16:17.50`	`Phaos`	`why are you getting qouted everywhere ?!`
`16:18.13`	`slightlyrandom`	`Because I am eloquent`
`16:18.14`	`Vulfe`	`Lol`
`16:18.21`	`Vulfe`	`That web page won't load for me`
`16:18.29`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yeah, it's slow as balls`
`16:18.45`	`Vulfe`	`why are you being quoted`
`16:18.47`	`Vulfe`	`like`
`16:18.48`	`Vulfe`	`on what`
`16:19.02`	`slightlyrandom`	`Guy was a huge fan of Cube Defense in WC3`
`16:19.13`	`slightlyrandom`	`He saw my version and asked for an interview sort of deal`
`16:19.17`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`16:19.19`	`Vulfe`	`interesting`
`16:19.25`	`Vulfe`	`afk`
`16:19.31`	`Mittsies`	`cube defense was pretty good`
`16:19.45`	`slightlyrandom`	`It was pretty damn awesome`
`16:19.53`	`slightlyrandom`	`And it is probably even better now!`
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`16:20.29`	`slightlyrandom`	`Guess I need to work out the last few kinks in the multiplayer`
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`16:27.57`	`Vailreth`	`there must be away to link the powerup to the command card...`
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`16:29.45`	`AxlYin`	`Sixen`
`16:29.47`	`AxlYin`	`are you there?`
`16:30.17`	`AxlYin`	`ekcolnovkol`
`16:30.19`	`AxlYin`	`phaos`
`16:30.33`	`AxlYin`	`rrowland`
`16:30.40`	`AxlYin`	`damnit someone answer i have to go ><`
`16:30.47`	`Vailreth`	`ok`
`16:30.56`	`AxlYin`	`ah vail you'll do`
`16:31.00`	`AxlYin`	`I need you to deliver a message`
`16:31.05`	`AxlYin`	`I'm going out of town`
`16:31.14`	`AxlYin`	`I'm PMing onetwo but I want to make sure he get's it asap`
`16:31.17`	`AxlYin`	`do yuo mind?`
`16:31.24`	`Vailreth`	`ok what message`
`16:31.59`	`AxlYin`	`Ok, so you know how the patch made it so burrow and stuff made it use the unit cost?`
`16:32.11`	`Vailreth`	`i have heard yes`
`16:32.18`	`AxlYin`	`the way you fix it,`
`16:32.22`	`AxlYin`	`is you go to the ability itself`
`16:32.30`	`AxlYin`	`go to stats-flags`
`16:32.41`	`AxlYin`	`and turn ON "Ignore Unit Cost"`
`16:32.53`	`Vailreth`	`ah.`
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`16:34.15`	`Vailreth`	`ok i will diliver that when next i see him`
`16:34.21`	`Vailreth`	`or her`
`16:34.36`	`Vailreth`	`him?>`
`16:35.54`	`Vulfe`	`is back`
`16:36.00`	`Vulfe`	`and on the attack`
`16:36.58`	`AxlYin`	`ty`
`16:36.58`	`AxlYin`	`him`
`16:37.18`	`Vulfe`	`lol.`
`16:37.28`	`Vulfe`	`naming SC2 to korean characters makes the icon disappear completely`
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`16:42.23`	`AxlYin`	`o.O?`
`16:42.46`	`AxlYin`	`i guess you're right`
`16:42.52`	`AxlYin`	`axlyin won't show char icon`
`16:42.53`	`AxlYin`	`ok gtg`
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`16:42.55`	`AxlYin`	`l8r guys`
`16:42.58`	`Vailreth`	`later`
`16:42.59`	`AxlYin`	`have a gewd weekend`
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`16:45.25`	`Vailreth`	`has any one had any luck with the PowerUp fields?`
`16:51.50`	`slightlyrandom`	`Wouldn't know one if it bit me in the nose`
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`16:55.59`	`slightlyrandom`	`Ah, so it as lagging because I was running the game on High.`
`16:56.06`	`slightlyrandom`	`Silly old computer`
`16:58.50`	`slightlyrandom`	`Hm, and yet`
`16:59.30`	`slightlyrandom`	`Would anyone be willing to try running my map, see if it causes slowdowns?`
`17:00.00`	`Vulfe`	`what map`
`17:00.02`	`Vulfe`	`vaporware?`
`17:00.06`	`slightlyrandom`	`Hehe`
`17:00.09`	`slightlyrandom`	`The Cube`
`17:00.12`	`slightlyrandom`	`Cube TD`
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`17:00.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`Can you be convinced ?`
`17:01.20`	`slightlyrandom`	`I'd like to know if I need to redo my triggers, or what`
`17:01.39`	`Mittsies`	`I can test it, slightlyrandom`
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`17:01.56`	`slightlyrandom`	`You need localization to outside of EnGB ?`
`17:02.11`	`Mittsies`	`wat`
`17:02.15`	`Mittsies`	`great britian?`
`17:02.17`	`Mittsies`	`gunbound?`
`17:02.24`	`slightlyrandom`	`EU english :)`
`17:02.30`	`Mittsies`	`oh, yeah, I do. I'm in US`
`17:02.36`	`slightlyrandom`	`Sec`
`17:03.13`	`Mittsies`	`...of course, it will cost you a fair price for me to test it. snickers menacingly as he curls his mustache`
`17:03.50`	`slightlyrandom`	`I am an offshore account for just these kinds of expenses`
`17:03.51`	`slightlyrandom`	`No worries`
`17:03.58`	`slightlyrandom`	`Will gold bars be acceptable?`
`17:04.08`	`Mittsies`	`Gold? Bah -- monopoly money to me.`
`17:04.11`	`Mittsies`	`You will make me ONE MILLION units with data editor.`
`17:04.17`	`slightlyrandom`	`http://www.mediafire.com/?a9d4b7y6zwywpr1`
`17:04.53`	`slightlyrandom`	`For me, it seems to lag a bit once there are a number of units on the screen`
`17:05.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`So, just sit tight for like 30-50 seconds, see what it looks like once all the mobs have spawned :P`
`17:05.39`	`Mittsies`	`hah`
`17:05.44`	`Mittsies`	`it really does look like cube td`
`17:05.59`	`slightlyrandom`	`Its a remake, not a reinvention`
`17:06.30`	`Mittsies`	`I mean you did a good job of recreating it`
`17:06.38`	`Mittsies`	`I immediately recognized it`
`17:06.41`	`Mittsies`	`like, from the map`
`17:07.00`	`slightlyrandom`	`I'd like to think there are a few improvements`
`17:07.04`	`rrowland`	`Is it just me or does the script compile errors window not take you to where the error is anymore?`
`17:07.07`	`rrowland`	`This is annoying`
`17:07.09`	`slightlyrandom`	`But yeah, the map layout is the same`
`17:07.27`	`slightlyrandom`	`Except, I couldn't figure out allowing construction of buildings on ramps`
`17:07.32`	`slightlyrandom`	`So it's a flat map now`
`17:08.26`	`Mittsies`	`How expensive is water for SC2?`
`17:08.41`	`rrowland`	`Like $100 a gallon, pretty expensive`
`17:08.44`	`Saeris`	`alright, here's a brain twister I'm trying to solve.`
`17:08.54`	`Saeris`	`so i want to make an AI to help in testing my map`
`17:08.55`	`slightlyrandom`	`42`
`17:09.13`	`Saeris`	`now, for part of it, it's easy, already did it`
`17:09.23`	`slightlyrandom`	`Lets not bother with that part, then`
`17:09.30`	`Saeris`	`i have it randomly choose a unit type to spawn and randomly choose where to attack`
`17:09.45`	`Mittsies`	`Thanks for that, rrowland. Thanks.`
`17:09.51`	`Mittsies`	`Also sr.`
`17:09.53`	`Saeris`	`but what i want to figure out, is how i can have it randomly choose a combo golem to spawn`
`17:09.55`	`rrowland`	`np`
`17:10.02`	`Mittsies`	`I have ultra-gfx settings`
`17:10.04`	`Saeris`	`now this is complex`
`17:10.10`	`Mittsies`	`and I experienced no slowdown even when all the units were out`
`17:10.15`	`slightlyrandom`	`Good`
`17:10.21`	`rrowland`	`If it's random then I don't understand what's complex about it`
`17:10.21`	`slightlyrandom`	`Then it's just my old lump of a computer`
`17:10.29`	`Mittsies`	`and my computer is subpar, so, yeah`
`17:10.33`	`Mittsies`	`this will run just fine`
`17:10.35`	`slightlyrandom`	`Make a list of them Saeris`
`17:10.39`	`slightlyrandom`	`Then pick one`
`17:10.44`	`rrowland`	`Make an array of game links`
`17:10.52`	`Saeris`	`hmmmmm`
`17:10.57`	`rrowland`	`Pretty simple imo`
`17:11.01`	`Saeris`	`well, no`
`17:11.04`	`Saeris`	`still would be complex`
`17:11.07`	`Saeris`	`you almost had me there`
`17:11.21`	`rrowland`	`Damn I almost had you believe the truth`
`17:11.28`	`slightlyrandom`	`You only allow units depending on the resources (or whatever) the player has at hand?`
`17:11.33`	`Saeris`	`naw seriously, it wouldn't work that way`
`17:11.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`Cheers Mittsies :)`
`17:11.42`	`rrowland`	`Then explain how it needs to work`
`17:11.46`	`Saeris`	`i will`
`17:11.50`	`rrowland`	`Ok go`
`17:11.51`	`Saeris`	`1 sec`
`17:12.07`	`Saeris`	`the way combos work, is every 50 kills you get a unit as a "part"`
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`17:12.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`slightly`
`17:12.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I have a job for you`
`17:12.20`	`slightlyrandom`	`Mittsies: If you want to play it, you'll have to go disable all the computer players :P`
`17:12.44`	`slightlyrandom`	`Wussat ProzaicMuze ?`
`17:12.48`	`Saeris`	`you have to combine them in quantities of 4 6 8 or 12 divided amongst 4 regions which are selectors`
`17:12.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Munchkin DotA`
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`17:12.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`think up 5 heroes`
`17:12.58`	`slightlyrandom`	`Awesome!`
`17:13.06`	`slightlyrandom`	`We basing it off of the game ?`
`17:13.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`give them a theme, some gimmick, gotta be sarcastic/funny`
`17:13.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Sort've`
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`17:13.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`It has to have a Chainsaw of Bloody Dismemberment`
`17:13.40`	`Saeris`	`so the point here would be, you need to take all the units within the combo area belonging to the picked AI player`
`17:13.41`	`slightlyrandom`	`and some way to use Cheat`
`17:13.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Helral - you here?`
`17:13.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol, we can worry about the items later, but that is certainly a possibility.`
`17:13.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`For now`
`17:14.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`heroooos!`
`17:14.03`	`slightlyrandom`	`ProzaicMuze: If we're doing this, the map has to be oriented differently from standard DotA`
`17:14.07`	`Saeris`	`put those units in a group, and randomly split them up and issue the split up groups to move to one of the 4 regions, randomly`
`17:14.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Oh I know`
`17:14.12`	`rrowland`	`I thought this was for testing your map, and it was random, I don't see what the point of doing it that painstakingly is`
`17:14.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'll be talking to Mokse about it`
`17:14.19`	`slightlyrandom`	`Awesome`
`17:14.29`	`slightlyrandom`	`I'll try to cook up some heroes`
`17:14.29`	`Saeris`	`does that make any sense to you guys?`
`17:14.38`	`slightlyrandom`	`Sure does Saeris`
`17:14.46`	`rrowland`	`It still doesn't sound that complex though`
`17:15.20`	`slightlyrandom`	`Just pick the units one by one, then assign them a random region to move to ?`
`17:15.20`	`rrowland`	`Roll 1-5 to determine how many golem parts you'll use for the next golem. If you roll a 1 you use 4, 2 you use 6 ,etc`
`17:15.36`	`rrowland`	`Then for each golem part you roll 1-4 and make them run into a region`
`17:15.56`	`Mittsies`	`rrowland you make life just a little simpler everyday, you know that?`
`17:16.26`	`Saeris`	`well, i've slowly been getting to that conclusion, but now i've been up 24 hours`
`17:16.31`	`Saeris`	`lol`
`17:16.45`	`rrowland`	`Enjoy my brain while it's still at an operable temperature`
`17:16.55`	`rrowland`	`Once this room reaches 110 I will be drooling and braindead`
`17:17.05`	`Mittsies`	`don't you have AC?`
`17:17.08`	`rrowland`	`Nope`
`17:17.18`	`Mittsies`	`a bunch of hot women to fan you off?`
`17:17.25`	`Saeris`	`even that may have issues though`
`17:17.28`	`rrowland`	`I'm not famous enough yet`
`17:17.35`	`Mittsies`	`oh I figured you were, my mistake`
`17:17.58`	`rrowland`	`If your GF needs a job let her know I'm hiring`
`17:18.08`	`Saeris`	`because there isn't a combo that can be done for every combination of golem parts divided up that way`
`17:18.21`	`rrowland`	`That sounds like a design problem`
`17:18.32`	`Saeris`	`hey, i'm working on it, kay?`
`17:18.34`	`Saeris`	`lol`
`17:18.40`	`rrowland`	`As far as I remember the original golems only took 3 parts and had a different golem for each combo`
`17:19.02`	`rrowland`	`And you could sneak in a 4th for the strong ones`
`17:19.04`	`rrowland`	`Right?`
`17:19.07`	`rrowland`	`It's been a while`
`17:19.23`	`Saeris`	`the version i'm porting has 4 elements, and there were like.... 60 combinations`
`17:19.39`	`Saeris`	`i've seen maps with as many as 8 elements and like, 200 combos`
`17:19.40`	`rrowland`	`btw I played yours once`
`17:19.44`	`rrowland`	`And the first golem I got`
`17:19.47`	`rrowland`	`Was an observer`
`17:19.53`	`rrowland`	`At that point I was like, okay fuck this game`
`17:20.10`	`Saeris`	`that once i figure out why it won't shoot, will have the photo cannon as a weapon`
`17:20.18`	`Saeris`	`i'm not that great at editing units yet`
`17:20.30`	`rrowland`	`Well`
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`17:20.37`	`rrowland`	`I guess I'm just a quality > quantity guy`
`17:20.45`	`Saeris`	`at least you didn't get the mysterious egg`
`17:21.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`helral is a bum`
`17:21.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`a stinky`
`17:21.10`	`rrowland`	`Rather have 10 balanced golems than 30 useless golems, 20 decent golems and 10 overpowered golems`
`17:21.12`	`Saeris`	`which eventually will give you a random combo golem after a short timer, but doesn't do jack shit right now`
`17:21.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`smelly`
`17:21.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`odorous`
`17:21.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`bum`
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`17:21.48`	`Saeris`	`i actually just spent the last 6 hours rebalancing all the combo golems to scale with their cost`
`17:22.00`	`rrowland`	`Is it true that there is now a way to revive heroes now?`
`17:22.04`	`rrowland`	`Without having to fake an actor death?`
`17:22.05`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yes`
`17:22.10`	`Barter`	`yes`
`17:22.11`	`slightlyrandom`	`The bad part is that they still drop items on death`
`17:22.16`	`rrowland`	`ugh`
`17:22.34`	`Barter`	`its not a big problem though`
`17:22.47`	`rrowland`	`So you still have to detect right before they die`
`17:22.51`	`rrowland`	`And get the items they had`
`17:23.04`	`Barter`	`dont have to do that`
`17:23.24`	`Barter`	`just after they die, get every item that is on the exact position of when they died`
`17:23.28`	`Barter`	`and give it to him`
`17:23.35`	`Saeris`	`btw rrowland, though i take what you said already in to consideration, i'm looking for as much feedback and as many suggestions as possible`
`17:23.45`	`Saeris`	`to make the map better than it is now`
`17:23.56`	`rrowland`	`Well I guess I have a conservative opinion on it`
`17:24.12`	`rrowland`	`I liked the original golems where there were 3 elements and 3-4 golem parts`
`17:24.24`	`rrowland`	`And no weird combos that gave you observers and other stuff that was useless`
`17:24.52`	`Vulfe`	`<-- feedback and suggestions`
`17:25.12`	`rrowland`	`So to revive a unit I guess there's just a revive action right? And that's all I need to do?`
`17:25.21`	`rrowland`	`Unit dies -> Wait or start timer -> Respawn action?`
`17:25.36`	`rrowland`	`Aside from the item crap`
`17:25.39`	`Barter`	`there is no action on the list actually, unless they fixed it`
`17:25.42`	`Saeris`	`yea, i think i saw something like that in the units sections`
`17:25.48`	`Barter`	`but you can just use custom script and put the function there`
`17:26.02`	`rrowland`	`Oh, what's the native?`
`17:26.11`	`Saeris`	`lemme check`
`17:26.16`	`Barter`	`UnitRevive (EventUnit());`
`17:26.23`	`rrowland`	`Cool ty`
`17:26.26`	`rrowland`	`Also if something isn't on the list`
`17:26.28`	`Barter`	`eventunit = triggering unit`
`17:26.31`	`rrowland`	`You can add it as a Native`
`17:26.44`	`rrowland`	`And use it in your code`
`17:26.51`	`Barter`	`hmm, what do you mean?`
`17:27.05`	`rrowland`	`You can make a new function and hit the "Native" checkbox`
`17:27.12`	`Saeris`	`hmmm, perhaps i saw it elsewhere`
`17:27.13`	`Barter`	`ohh`
`17:27.15`	`Barter`	`interesting`
`17:27.20`	`rrowland`	`So you can use it in triggers`
`17:27.47`	`rrowland`	`It's basically a "face" for a function that exists in code but not in triggers`
`17:28.13`	`rrowland`	`A little less messy than custom code :)`
`17:28.23`	`Barter`	`yeah :P`
`17:28.57`	`Barter`	`what would be the galaxy name for the parameter though? pv_name?`
`17:29.08`	`rrowland`	`lp`
`17:29.18`	`rrowland`	`local parameter`
`17:29.21`	`Barter`	`kk`
`17:29.26`	`rrowland`	`I believe`
`17:32.33`	`rrowland`	`It's lv_unit?`
`17:32.37`	`rrowland`	`er`
`17:32.40`	`rrowland`	`lp_unit?`
`17:33.02`	`Barter`	`dunno, getting syntax error`
`17:33.59`	`rrowland`	`I'm not`
`17:34.07`	`rrowland`	`Call it UnitRevive`
`17:34.16`	`rrowland`	`Options: Action, Native`
`17:34.21`	`rrowland`	`Parameters`
`17:34.26`	`rrowland`	`Unit = No Unit <Unit>`
`17:34.36`	`rrowland`	`Grammar Text: UnitRevive(Unit)`
`17:35.32`	`Barter`	`yeah worked`
`17:35.39`	`rrowland`	`8)`
`17:35.58`	`rrowland`	`Also`
`17:36.02`	`rrowland`	`To be even more professional`
`17:36.09`	`rrowland`	`Right click the function -> label -> units`
`17:36.30`	`Barter`	`:P`
`17:36.38`	`rrowland`	`Weird it didn't change the icon, I thought it's supposed to`
`17:36.40`	`rrowland`	`But it changed the color`
`17:37.12`	`rrowland`	`Oh yeah it did`
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`17:37.18`	`rrowland`	`When you call it, it uses the unit icon`
`17:37.24`	`rrowland`	`pretty 8)`
`17:37.42`	`Barter`	`yep =p`
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`17:45.30`	`Vulfe`	`anyone need to test maps before I begin working on mine again?`
`17:45.33`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
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`17:47.53`	`heysparky`	`howdy folks`
`17:48.02`	`rrowland`	`lol All of the textures I was using in my map that weren't custom are gone`
`17:48.04`	`Vulfe`	`hi`
`17:48.09`	`rrowland`	`Replaced with that ugly blue`
`17:48.12`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`17:48.14`	`Vulfe`	`rrowland`
`17:48.15`	`Vulfe`	`that sucks`
`17:48.41`	`rrowland`	`There is no texture for a button anymore?`
`17:48.43`	`rrowland`	`wtf`
`17:48.54`	`rrowland`	`And hello sparky :)`
`17:49.18`	`Helral`	`hey sparky`
`17:49.19`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Ahh`
`17:49.19`	`heysparky`	`doh`
`17:49.22`	`TheLaughingMan`	`someone was smart`
`17:49.24`	`heysparky`	`that stinks rrow`
`17:49.30`	`TheLaughingMan`	`"Have any of you considered the possibility that the installer simply doesn't know how to read the .MPQE files, and that there will be a small update for the installer on release day that allows it to be read? The most feasible thing is probably to figure out how to open the .MPQEs themselves, which would allow you to simply install because you would have the installer file list and accessible data files."`
`17:50.05`	`heysparky`	`what happeend to Alpha?`
`17:50.07`	`TheLaughingMan`	`"If Vernam really cracked the game he posted the crack.But he is not going to give his crack to other guys that means that there is no crack.Maybe the picture was even done with PhotoShop.Or leaked from a guy who really cracked the game."`
`17:50.22`	`rrowland`	`How about just leaving it alone until it's released`
`17:50.26`	`rrowland`	`That sounds smarter to me`
`17:50.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I think Alpha dieded`
`17:50.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`hasn't been on in days :(`
`17:50.59`	`rrowland`	`Yeah he's been gone a while`
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`17:51.06`	`TheLaughingMan`	`There just starting to realize the Vernam tricked them`
`17:51.19`	`rrowland`	`And unless he changed his name, Lyrrad has been gone for like a month at least`
`17:51.29`	`rrowland`	`He was like the only one who actually liked sniper wars`
`17:51.34`	`heysparky`	`more than that`
`17:51.50`	`rrowland`	`We made fun of stupid people together`
`17:51.50`	`heysparky`	`he disappeared when the first beta ended`
`17:51.54`	`rrowland`	`They were fun times`
`17:51.58`	`RoarMan`	`heysparky!`
`17:52.00`	`RoarMan`	`rrowland!`
`17:52.01`	`depthsofchaos`	`haii, any pro mathematicans here ?:p`
`17:52.04`	`heysparky`	`howdy roar`
`17:52.04`	`RoarMan`	`TheLaughingMan!`
`17:52.07`	`RoarMan`	`DEPTHSOFCHAOS HAI`
`17:52.12`	`RoarMan`	`HIII PROZAICMUZE!`
`17:52.19`	`rrowland`	`You should go down the list of people in thechannel`
`17:52.21`	`RoarMan`	`depthsofchaos for what?`
`17:52.23`	`rrowland`	`And say hello individually`
`17:52.25`	`RoarMan`	`Lol yea`
`17:52.33`	`RoarMan`	`But then I'd probably get kicked for spam :P`
`17:52.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`only if you did it quickly`
`17:52.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`be slow`
`17:52.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and it'd last forevers`
`17:52.47`	`depthsofchaos`	`its geometry sort of and graphs`
`17:52.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`"that's what she said!"`
`17:53.42`	`Ashamed`	`... ProzaicMuze....... She said that it last longer then last time.. 45 seconds still doesn't count bro`
`17:53.46`	`Saeris`	`zZz`
`17:53.48`	`depthsofchaos`	`i got a bunch of 2d points nad i have to pick X amount that are the most distant to each other in avarage`
`17:53.56`	`depthsofchaos`	`so halp me :p`
`17:54.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`:(`
`17:54.02`	`rrowland`	`Sounds easy`
`17:54.05`	`Ashamed`	`:(`
`17:54.06`	`Saeris`	`so this isn't gonna look right at all, i bet`
`17:54.14`	`Saeris`	`Unit - Order (Unit (Random integer between 1 and (Number of Living units in (Idle Units for player (Picked player)))) from Combo Golemsiths) to ( Move targeting (Center of Random Element[(Random integer between 1 and 4)])) (Replace Existing Orders)`
`17:54.28`	`depthsofchaos`	`sounds easy? then tell me how :o`
`17:54.32`	`rrowland`	`Why idle units`
`17:54.46`	`Saeris`	`because i don't want it to pick a unit already given an order`
`17:54.52`	`rrowland`	`The logic seems solid`
`17:54.56`	`Saeris`	`and that's what i'm trying to figure out`
`17:55.05`	`Saeris`	`if that there works or not`
`17:55.35`	`rrowland`	`You just make a unit group of units inside the golem area belonging to that player, up to a maximum of how many golems you're sending and then do a "for each unit"`
`17:55.56`	`Saeris`	`yea`
`17:56.00`	`Saeris`	`that's in it`
`17:56.21`	`rrowland`	`That's not what I see`
`17:56.29`	`Vulfe`	`Why did Acemore have to pick the segments where I was talking`
`17:56.29`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`17:56.32`	`Saeris`	`that line is nested in like, 3 other trees of pick each, else if`
`17:56.50`	`rrowland`	`"Pick each unit" doesn't pick the same unit more than once`
`17:56.58`	`RoarMan`	`RARWAWRARWawr`
`17:57.01`	`rrowland`	`So idle units for your purpose isn't necessary`
`17:57.11`	`Saeris`	`hmmmmm`
`17:57.20`	`Saeris`	`alright`
`17:57.31`	`rrowland`	`depths, you want to get the distance between X and Y as the bases of a triangle and calculate the hypoteneuse, that's the distance between them`
`17:57.38`	`Saeris`	`as i said, i'm running on empty here`
`17:57.51`	`Saeris`	`but thanks`
`17:58.21`	`depthsofchaos`	`im not looking for 2 points distance`
`17:58.24`	`Vulfe`	`sqrt((x1-x2)^2+(y1-y2)^2)`
`17:58.29`	`Vulfe`	`for people who don't like maths`
`17:58.46`	`Vulfe`	`what do you need, depths?`
`17:58.48`	`rrowland`	`(x2-x1)^2 + (y2-y1)^2 = distance^2`
`17:58.52`	`depthsofchaos`	`i got a bunch of 2d points nad i have to pick X amount that are the most distant to each other in avarage`
`17:58.52`	`Saeris`	`ah, okay`
`17:59.03`	`Saeris`	`here, this is why i was doing it that way`
`17:59.18`	`Vulfe`	`the furthest from each other?`
`17:59.19`	`Saeris`	`well, i could probably change conditions but`
`17:59.19`	`Vulfe`	`hmm`
`17:59.26`	`rrowland`	`You're going to want to rephrase that in proper english depths, cause I have no idea what you're trying to say`
`17:59.29`	`depthsofchaos`	`basically i want to place bases of players equally distant from eahcother on the possible points`
`17:59.59`	`rrowland`	`Not specific enough`
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`18:00.16`	`depthsofchaos`	`why`
`18:00.17`	`Saeris`	`i had it say, if the number of units in Combo Golems is between 4 and 6, (pick 4 of them) and issue orders to each to go to a random element region`
`18:00.18`	`rrowland`	`How many players, how many points, how do you determine the points, etc`
`18:00.27`	`depthsofchaos`	`points are 2d and given`
`18:00.34`	`depthsofchaos`	`player amount is dynamic`
`18:00.38`	`Saeris`	`and then i'd do another for between 6-8`
`18:00.46`	`Saeris`	`andother from 8-12, etc`
`18:00.48`	`rrowland`	`Points are preset right?`
`18:01.05`	`depthsofchaos`	`yes, points of islands where the bases are palced`
`18:01.25`	`Mittsies`	`rrowland, is player # based on order of joining?`
`18:01.38`	`rrowland`	`I haven't messed with teams lately`
`18:01.40`	`depthsofchaos`	`but the points are generated on map start`
`18:01.57`	`rrowland`	`Okay so they're generated`
`18:02.13`	`depthsofchaos`	`but for the same map the points will be the same`
`18:02.18`	`rrowland`	`And if there are 3 players, you want it to get the 3 that are furthest from eachother?`
`18:02.31`	`depthsofchaos`	`furthest in avarage yes`
`18:02.38`	`rrowland`	`Average of what`
`18:02.43`	`rrowland`	`Between each?`
`18:03.11`	`depthsofchaos`	`yes basically with 3 players a triangle is the optimal`
`18:03.23`	`rrowland`	`In 1v1 they'd be really far apart as opposed to say, 6 player ffa`
`18:03.33`	`depthsofchaos`	`yes`
`18:03.51`	`rrowland`	`You might want to consider having bases a certain distance from other bases so it's consistent throughout games`
`18:03.58`	`rrowland`	`Just a suggestion`
`18:04.13`	`depthsofchaos`	`but the problem is i cant guarantee that there will be a point available at that distance`
`18:04.30`	`rrowland`	`You can find a point closest to that distance`
`18:04.47`	`rrowland`	`So you start with base 1 and pick a random angle 0-360`
`18:05.02`	`rrowland`	`Trace it say, 25 units in that direction`
`18:05.23`	`rrowland`	`If there's room for a base, build there. If not, do some circling around base 1 by changing the angle until you find one suitable`
`18:05.33`	`depthsofchaos`	`yep but if i pick a point it might be inconsistent with the 3rd point`
`18:06.15`	`rrowland`	`Well what you're asking is basically impossible. How do you arrange 5 players so that they're all the same distance?`
`18:06.29`	`depthsofchaos`	`not the same, but the best possible`
`18:06.42`	`rrowland`	`Best possible is arranging them in a circle`
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`18:06.59`	`depthsofchaos`	`the points arent on a circle`
`18:07.26`	`depthsofchaos`	`can be totaly random`
`18:07.52`	`depthsofchaos`	`i understand your idea and its somewhat good but not accurate at all`
`18:08.02`	`rrowland`	`I'm just saying`
`18:08.12`	`rrowland`	`The closest multiple people can get to eachother`
`18:08.17`	`rrowland`	`On average`
`18:08.22`	`rrowland`	`Is in a circle`
`18:08.47`	`rrowland`	`Maybe use the center of the map as your starting point and trace out distances from there and find the closest point`
`18:08.53`	`rrowland`	`And use those`
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`18:09.19`	`rrowland`	`It wouldn't make a perfect circle but it'd be the closest you can get to equal distances`
`18:09.48`	`heysparky`	`'not accurate'?`
`18:09.49`	`depthsofchaos`	`hmm a bit changing that i could expand the circle and pick the last state where it could find x amount of points near it`
`18:10.07`	`rrowland`	`That's what I'm saying`
`18:10.09`	`Vulfe`	`all right`
`18:10.11`	`rrowland`	`More players = bigger circle`
`18:10.13`	`Vulfe`	`almost got an alpha for the game board x.x`
`18:10.30`	`depthsofchaos`	`but there might be cases when the circle doesnt find enough points`
`18:11.21`	`depthsofchaos`	`so got do more little circles along the circle`
`18:11.21`	`depthsofchaos`	`and keep those expanding tooo`
`18:11.21`	`rrowland`	`Say you have 2 players, you start at 0 degrees and add 360/2 = 180 degrees, trace out 25 from (0,0) to (25, 0) and (-25, 0)`
`18:11.33`	`rrowland`	`Say you have 3, you start at 0 and add 360/3 = 120 degrees, trace 25 out 3 times to form a triangle`
`18:11.33`	`rrowland`	`etc`
`18:11.42`	`rrowland`	`And you can find the closest random points to those`
`18:11.58`	`rrowland`	`randomly generated that is, the ones you already made`
`18:12.25`	`Vulfe`	`this is much better! huzzah`
`18:12.34`	`Vulfe`	`now all I have to do is copy it to the real map`
`18:12.35`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`18:13.16`	`rrowland`	`I wish all maps consisted of were solving these kinds of problems, it's my favorite part :P`
`18:13.19`	`depthsofchaos`	`yes rowland but this wont make the bigest distance`
`18:13.43`	`depthsofchaos`	`but the distance will be consistent tho`
`18:13.44`	`rrowland`	`Like I said, biggest distance will make 1v1 have a lot bigger distance than say 6 player ffa`
`18:13.48`	`rrowland`	`Which is fine if that's what you want`
`18:14.03`	`rrowland`	`It just doesn't make sense to me, I'd think that consistent distances would be better`
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`18:14.35`	`depthsofchaos`	`well 6 player ffa would definetly need the bigest distance`
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`18:14.58`	`Corbo`	`hi`
`18:15.08`	`depthsofchaos`	`but thx i think ill find osmething along these lines`
`18:16.23`	`Corbo`	`ohey`
`18:16.25`	`Corbo`	`1 new PM for me`
`18:16.30`	`depthsofchaos`	`hi`
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`18:18.09`	`wOlfLinG`	`Hey, anyone heard of Starlogo TNG? It's a programming thing to get children into programming. It's 3D and has a GUI, meaning theres not loads of typing (which children hate xD)`
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`18:18.50`	`rrowland`	`Back in my day we handed kids BASIC and said get working`
`18:18.59`	`Saeris1`	`alright, so i think i've got it all figured out now. If the number of units in Combo Golems is between 4 and 5, first if the number of units in combo golems is greater than 4, remove one random unit from the unit group and repeat for the number of units in the group -4, then pick each remaining unit and order them to move to a random region between 1-4 in the region array. repeat this Else If loop for 6-8, 8-12, and >12. probably in`
`18:19.05`	`Saeris1`	`man, what a mouthful`
`18:19.09`	`ThunderLord`	`I almost went to Warcraft 3 Camp this summer lol`
`18:19.24`	`wOlfLinG`	`lol`
`18:19.32`	`rrowland`	`How often does it run saeris`
`18:19.36`	`ThunderLord`	`IV tech camp, they have a ton of programming classes and stuf for kids like 12-18`
`18:19.47`	`ThunderLord`	`and one of them is "Moding" with the WC3 Editor`
`18:19.47`	`wOlfLinG`	`also, rrowland: :P This is better`
`18:19.59`	`Saeris1`	`every 10 seconds. as i leave the game running the number of units the AI would get would get larger`
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`18:20.17`	`Saeris1`	`depending on how well it's randomly doing`
`18:20.33`	`ThunderLord`	`but then i started working with SC2 editor and was like...this is not even comprable to WC3 difficulty`
`18:20.44`	`rrowland`	`Do you think it would ever actually get 7 golem parts in 10 seconds?`
`18:20.48`	`rrowland`	`Doesn't sound realistic to me`
`18:21.07`	`rrowland`	`(It would have to jump from 5 to 12 in 10 seconds)`
`18:21.12`	`Saeris1`	`it's possible, and i understand what you mean`
`18:21.39`	`ThunderLord`	`for that one person thinking he is so L33T getting so many golem parts so fast`
`18:21.44`	`ThunderLord`	`...`
`18:21.47`	`ThunderLord`	`PWANT!`
`18:22.13`	`Saeris1`	`just trying to cover every possible scenario so I can run this trigger, go grab lunch, and see what the AI has done to fuck up the game`
`18:22.15`	`rrowland`	`wtb civilian models`
`18:22.49`	`rrowland`	`civilians that look like they're wearing full body spandex suits for some reason`
`18:22.59`	`Corbo`	`cause they are!`
`18:23.21`	`wOlfLinG`	`I went to a 'Game programming camp' last year. Worst thing ever!`
`18:23.24`	`Saeris1`	`optionally, i could take the whole code block out and put it in a trigger that has a longer interval`
`18:23.44`	`Helral`	`I went to sleep last year XD`
`18:23.51`	`wOlfLinG`	`It was basically a free, not very powerful program which i paid Â£700 or so to learn to do`
`18:24.09`	`rrowland`	`Sucker`
`18:24.15`	`wOlfLinG`	`When I could have just downloaded and learnt it for free`
`18:24.21`	`Corbo`	`what program was it?`
`18:24.27`	`rrowland`	`Some people just don't get programming`
`18:24.44`	`wOlfLinG`	`Can't remember the program name`
`18:24.45`	`Helral`	`was it a programming for dummies camp, wolfling?`
`18:24.58`	`Helral`	`it was notepad roflol XP`
`18:25.02`	`wOlfLinG`	`Nope. It was at PGL (kids only summer camps)`
`18:25.15`	`rrowland`	`If you don't understand logic you can't understand programming`
`18:25.22`	`rrowland`	`That's why we're usually so smart 8)`
`18:25.42`	`Corbo`	`we?`
`18:25.43`	`Saeris1`	`hmmmmm, actually i could go and improve this, so that the computer issues orders to attack the player with the highest score. or the lowest score`
`18:25.43`	`Corbo`	`:P`
`18:25.45`	`Helral`	`that logic is denyably true.... or something :X`
`18:25.55`	`Saeris1`	`now i'm just thinking out loud`
`18:26.13`	`wOlfLinG`	`Also, im officially better at programming than my ICT teacher :D`
`18:26.20`	`depthsofchaos`	`solve me a puzzle, you got 2 guys 2 girl 2 condoms, how do you stay safe ?xd go logic masters go`
`18:26.21`	`Helral`	`who isn't/`
`18:26.34`	`rrowland`	`if(you dont know what you're talking about) then dotalk = false end;`
`18:26.37`	`Helral`	`guyxguy, girlxgirl XD`
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`18:26.46`	`depthsofchaos`	`nooooooooooo bad baaaddd`
`18:26.48`	`Corbo`	`what helral said`
`18:26.50`	`Helral`	`roflol`
`18:26.54`	`Corbo`	`that also saves you 2 condoms`
`18:26.59`	`Corbo`	`LOGIC IS UNDENIABLE!`
`18:27.00`	`Helral`	`exactly :D`
`18:27.02`	`wOlfLinG`	`Depths: Kill the other guy and have a threesome :D`
`18:27.04`	`depthsofchaos`	`you still get std`
`18:27.16`	`rrowland`	`Yeah cause guy>guy unprotected is super safe`
`18:27.33`	`Helral`	`kill the other 2 guys and have fun with the other lesbian... that better?`
`18:27.44`	`Corbo`	`ohyes`
`18:27.48`	`Corbo`	`threesome`
`18:27.52`	`depthsofchaos`	`you cant kill him his a huge troll`
`18:28.04`	`Helral`	`ok I trick him into leaving.`
`18:28.05`	`rrowland`	`ABSTAIN`
`18:28.07`	`Corbo`	`then why would girls wanna do a troll?`
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`18:28.10`	`rrowland`	`ABSTINENCE IS THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAFE`
`18:28.14`	`heysparky`	`safe == play canasta`
`18:28.18`	`Corbo`	`lol`
`18:28.28`	`Helral`	`hmmmm one moment there, sparky....`
`18:28.33`	`Corbo`	`Why do IRC conversations always go wrong?`
`18:29.05`	`depthsofchaos`	`wasnt me i made an innocent logic mistery xD`
`18:29.19`	`depthsofchaos`	`to buzz the brainzz`
`18:29.22`	`heysparky`	`depths is the troll`
`18:29.41`	`depthsofchaos`	`i do it without condom`
`18:29.44`	`depthsofchaos`	`cant be`
`18:30.24`	`Corbo`	`HEY`
`18:30.25`	`Corbo`	`ITS`
`18:30.28`	`Corbo`	`REAL ID TIME`
`18:30.42`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`good job`
`18:30.46`	`rrowland`	`I'm already in real ID mode`
`18:31.02`	`rrowland`	`My first name is "r"`
`18:31.09`	`LordAbyss`	`wtb address ID`
`18:31.11`	`heysparky`	`Pirate parents?`
`18:31.13`	`rrowland`	`aka r-dawg`
`18:31.20`	`rrowland`	`yeah or "rrrrrrrrr"`
`18:31.25`	`CarlosCuchilla`	`yarg`
`18:31.31`	`CarlosCuchilla`	`aye pyrates`
`18:31.53`	`CarlosCuchilla`	`r dawg?`
`18:31.54`	`CarlosCuchilla`	`lol`
`18:32.00`	`CarlosCuchilla`	`can I be c dawg?`
`18:34.05`	`C-Dawg`	`you morning people are far more boring than the night ones`
`18:34.05`	`C-Dawg`	`:P`
`18:34.27`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`has blizzard legitamately fixed leaderboards yet`
`18:34.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`hey guys how do i change the dds plugin settings in photoshop`
`18:34.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`i hit the quit asking me the # of bits question but now i want to change it from 8 to 16`
`18:34.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`your cursor`
`18:35.00`	`rrowland`	`It's not just leaderboards`
`18:35.06`	`rrowland`	`It's a ton of textures they decided to delete`
`18:35.07`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I know`
`18:35.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`did they fix any of it`
`18:35.10`	`RodOfNOD`	`no leaders are not there`
`18:35.17`	`rrowland`	`Not on my map lol`
`18:35.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`but they are not deleted in leaderborads its a broken link`
`18:35.19`	`rrowland`	`So probably not`
`18:35.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`'anything that was removed is easily imported`
`18:35.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`leaders is a different problem`
`18:35.57`	`rrowland`	`If it's a broken link`
`18:36.01`	`ThunderLord`	`i hate how nobodie exxcept for me and like 2 other people noticed the biggest mess up of all`
`18:36.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`anyways any artists know the answer to my ?`
`18:36.06`	`rrowland`	`Then import it as the link that it's pointing to?`
`18:36.09`	`ThunderLord`	`They broke every camera function thing`
`18:36.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`that isnt the biggest messup lol`
`18:36.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`i havent been able to find where the link is rrowland :P`
`18:36.47`	`rrowland`	`Well it's probably the old link`
`18:37.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`the files as far as i can tell are in the same place and they work`
`18:37.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Nice second video, Acemore`
`18:37.59`	`rrowland`	`Finally stuffed all of my triggers into libraries`
`18:38.03`	`rrowland`	`Now I can make it into a mod`
`18:38.05`	`ThunderLord`	`http://rapidsharâe.com/files/405801891â/wtf.SC2Map`
`18:38.13`	`ThunderLord`	`map that shows`
`18:38.18`	`ThunderLord`	`the HUGE camera error`
`18:38.35`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`rapidshare?`
`18:38.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`:<`
`18:38.38`	`ThunderLord`	`so if you are planning on making a map that uses some camera functions`
`18:38.42`	`ThunderLord`	`check out that link`
`18:38.43`	`rrowland`	`I guess I just copy all my data from this MPQ into the mod MPQ`
`18:38.51`	`ThunderLord`	`yeah some guy on the Blizz forums made that map`
`18:39.02`	`Corbo`	`rapidshare?`
`18:39.03`	`Corbo`	`lul`
`18:39.07`	`Corbo`	`use mediafire`
`18:39.13`	`ThunderLord`	`i dident upload it`
`18:39.16`	`ThunderLord`	`some other guy did`
`18:39.20`	`Corbo`	`;o`
`18:39.22`	`ThunderLord`	`idk why he used rapidshare`
`18:39.33`	`rrowland`	`rapidshare is nice`
`18:39.39`	`rrowland`	`I got a premium account for free`
`18:39.48`	`Corbo`	`hiw?`
`18:39.50`	`Corbo`	`how?`
`18:40.01`	`rrowland`	`I just had a collector's account and one day they emailed me`
`18:40.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`link broke ThunderLord`
`18:40.08`	`RodOfNOD`	`corbo!`
`18:40.09`	`ThunderLord`	`it is?`
`18:40.12`	`rrowland`	`And said hey, have a free premium account forever`
`18:40.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`u can answer my question`
`18:40.19`	`Corbo`	`what question?`
`18:40.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`[11:34] <RodOfNOD> hey guys how do i change the dds plugin settings in photoshop`
`18:40.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`[11:34] <RodOfNOD> i hit the quit asking me the # of bits question but now i want tochange it from 8 to 16`
`18:40.31`	`ThunderLord`	`oh i guess it is )=`
`18:40.32`	`Corbo`	`lul`
`18:40.36`	`ThunderLord`	`dang`
`18:40.37`	`ThunderLord`	`i should re-upload`
`18:40.41`	`ThunderLord`	`is that illegal?`
`18:40.47`	`Corbo`	`why would you set it to 8bit from the very beggining`
`18:40.50`	`ThunderLord`	`if i downloaded this guys map and i re-upload it somewhere?`
`18:40.52`	`rrowland`	`Yes I'm on the phone with the cops right now`
`18:40.58`	`Corbo`	`you should've done load default size`
`18:41.01`	`Corbo`	`but hold on let me check`
`18:41.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`what is the error?`
`18:41.12`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`:\|`
`18:41.22`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`besides stealing my mouse`
`18:41.26`	`ThunderLord`	`play several camera functions do not work`
`18:41.36`	`ThunderLord`	`Camera Yaw, target, rotation`
`18:41.42`	`ThunderLord`	`you cannot get those numbers`
`18:41.55`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh`
`18:42.00`	`ThunderLord`	`when your camera is more than 64 from the X or Y from the bottem left of your map`
`18:42.03`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I didn't even think to try that`
`18:42.27`	`ThunderLord`	`and in a couple other places, but in those places it gives you weird numbers`
`18:43.52`	`Vailreth`	`hello folks`
`18:44.19`	`RodOfNOD`	`hi`
`18:44.53`	`Corbo`	`k got it`
`18:45.02`	`Corbo`	`sorry lulz`
`18:45.06`	`Corbo`	`Open a dds file`
`18:45.07`	`Corbo`	`and save`
`18:45.15`	`Corbo`	`when it's in the save box`
`18:45.19`	`Corbo`	`there should be serveral buttons`
`18:45.25`	`Corbo`	`one of them is "read config"`
`18:45.41`	`Corbo`	`it should show the open config again.`
`18:46.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`tyty`
`18:46.11`	`Corbo`	`check the "show this dialog" thing to show it on next time you open or whatever`
`18:47.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`ya i set to default sizde like u said but now i have another issue`
`18:48.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`i open a 122 file size but when i save its 41`
`18:48.10`	`RodOfNOD`	`why am i losing quality?`
`18:48.46`	`Corbo`	`wait what?`
`18:48.51`	`Corbo`	`122 pixels?`
`18:48.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`kb`
`18:48.57`	`Corbo`	`oh`
`18:49.06`	`Corbo`	`you probably aren't losing quality.`
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`18:50.20`	`Corbo`	`Maybe the image before was a different a bigger one bitsize and by loading the default one it saves as a smaller one (since it's smaller)`
`18:50.21`	`Corbo`	`dunno`
`18:50.30`	`Corbo`	`or maybe it's just dds' awesome compression`
`18:50.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`k`
`18:51.01`	`Helral`	`meow`
`18:51.07`	`Vailreth`	`bark`
`18:51.15`	`Helral`	`not bark, meow`
`18:51.31`	`Vailreth`	`ok..`
`18:52.00`	`Vailreth`	`anyway i was wondering if any one here knew about the powerup fields in a units information?`
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`18:53.12`	`Magesblood`	`acemore`
`18:53.29`	`ThunderLord`	`Helral`
`18:54.46`	`Acemore`	`sup`
`18:55.00`	`Corbo`	`screw this`
`18:55.12`	`Corbo`	`why am I backing up 10GBs of info that aren't evenmine`
`18:55.28`	`Vulfe`	`Anyone know how to save texture sets?`
`18:55.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`Vailreth what about it?`
`18:56.14`	`Vailreth`	`i am trying to use them for my mod and do not see how to. i would assume that they have to be linked to the command card some how..`
`18:56.32`	`Corbo`	`save texture sets`
`18:56.36`	`Corbo`	`what do you mean?`
`18:56.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`are they not just the amounts that will be taken off the unit when ever it uses any ability Vailreth?`
`18:57.04`	`Corbo`	`ooh`
`18:57.05`	`Vailreth`	`no.`
`18:57.13`	`Corbo`	`I have a PERFECT idea for my new pokemon map`
`18:57.14`	`LordAbyss`	`http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o17/LordAbyssPhotos/?action=view&current=Terrain019.jpg`
`18:57.17`	`LordAbyss`	`what do you guys think?`
`18:57.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`cuz thats how they work when on the ability itself`
`18:57.28`	`Vailreth`	`not that i believe anyway`
`18:57.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`what are u wanting to do Vailreth with ur mod`
`18:57.36`	`Vailreth`	`hmm`
`18:58.00`	`Vailreth`	`well right now i am using it to teach my self the data editor.`
`18:58.27`	`Vailreth`	`and i wanted to figure out what the power up section does.`
`18:59.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`k`
`18:59.41`	`wOlfLinG`	`Think i just crashed SC2 O_o`
`18:59.48`	`RodOfNOD`	`well im pretty sure thats what it does cuz its what it does in abilities in general`
`19:00.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`let me test something`
`19:00.24`	`Vailreth`	`k.`
`19:00.30`	`wOlfLinG`	`I did a 'Drone collides with drone -> Create 1 drone' script xD. It repeated itself 60 times a second ^^`
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`19:01.00`	`Corbo`	`hai pq`
`19:02.51`	`poiuy_qwert`	`hey Corbo`
`19:02.53`	`Saeris1`	`hmmmmmm`
`19:03.19`	`Saeris1`	`anyone have any ideas how i can choose the player with the highest Enemy Units Killed score?`
`19:03.50`	`Sublimity`	`Saeris1: There's a function to get that score, I'm assuming?`
`19:04.34`	`Saeris1`	`yea, well, somehow there is, because i can get that score for leaderboards and whatnot`
`19:04.56`	`Saeris1`	`this is the first time i've tried using it elsewhere`
`19:05.18`	`Sublimity`	`Yeah, there should be a way to get it`
`19:05.42`	`Saeris1`	`that or just return the player at the top of the leaderboard`
`19:05.48`	`Saeris1`	`that's all i really want`
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`19:05.57`	`Sublimity`	`Anyway, just pick the first player as the person with the highest score (put in a variable), then loop through all the players and, if they have a higher score than the player in the variable, change the variable`
`19:06.31`	`Vulfe`	`Lol.`
`19:06.34`	`Vulfe`	`Mothership is bugged`
`19:06.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`Vailreth is it possible since items are basically units that this is referring to item stuff?`
`19:06.53`	`Vulfe`	`if you shift-queue movements in a tight circle, it will move in circles indefinitely without commands`
`19:06.55`	`Vulfe`	`it's funny`
`19:07.08`	`depthsofchaos`	`oh shit i have to make my first lobal variable !! my awesomeness has broken`
`19:07.12`	`depthsofchaos`	`global*`
`19:07.14`	`Vailreth`	`possibly`
`19:07.29`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://starcraft.incgamers.com/blog/comments/new-mapmaking-tutorial-creating-powerup-items/`
`19:07.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`might help`
`19:08.06`	`Vailreth`	`if its item stuff i dont need it yet, thank RodOfNOD.`
`19:08.16`	`Barter`	`how do I make stacking buffs show how many stacks are active on the unit? like, I have a buff that you can have 4 stacks at most on a unit, and it works, but it only shows one icon with nothing indicating how many stacks are active`
`19:08.22`	`Vulfe`	`Barter...`
`19:08.26`	`Vulfe`	`the Barter from HoN?`
`19:08.34`	`Barter`	`yep`
`19:08.36`	`Vulfe`	`Cool.`
`19:08.39`	`Vulfe`	`Nice to meet you.`
`19:08.41`	`Barter`	`:P`
`19:08.41`	`Vulfe`	`on the internet.`
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`19:08.57`	`Vulfe`	`You did like UI mods right?`
`19:09.03`	`Barter`	`yeah`
`19:09.23`	`Vulfe`	`cool`
`19:09.28`	`Vulfe`	`to your question: I have no idea`
`19:09.34`	`Vulfe`	`:P`
`19:09.39`	`Barter`	`:\|`
`19:10.11`	`Vulfe`	`Does anyone here know how to save and move texture sets from one map to another?`
`19:10.43`	`Barter`	`a mod maybe`
`19:11.10`	`Vulfe`	`Mokse, the terrainer extraordinair, seemed to imply that it was a feature in the editor`
`19:11.13`	`Vulfe`	`but you may be correct`
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`19:13.43`	`Vulfe`	`Oh well`
`19:13.46`	`Vulfe`	`time to make the set again`
`19:13.47`	`Vulfe`	`: \`
`19:14.14`	`Vailreth`	`hmm.`
`19:17.03`	`Vulfe`	`hopefully by the end of today I'll have a working prototype of this system...`
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`19:19.34`	`goomba_`	`hi corbo`
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`19:24.58`	`poiuy_qwert`	`hey mikelat`
`19:25.26`	`Vulfe`	`is there like`
`19:25.33`	`Vulfe`	`a button to ignore placement req. on doodads?`
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`19:26.17`	`Barter`	`holding shift isnt it`
`19:26.24`	`Vulfe`	`oh`
`19:26.25`	`Vulfe`	`maybe`
`19:26.29`	`Vulfe`	`i don't do terrain much`
`19:26.31`	`Vulfe`	`i'll test it`
`19:26.46`	`Gank`	`its holding shift`
`19:26.49`	`Gank`	`works for units as well`
`19:26.53`	`Vulfe`	`kk`
`19:26.55`	`Vulfe`	`thanks.`
`19:26.57`	`Gank`	`np`
`19:27.10`	`Vulfe`	`I'll use that in the future to make the rest of these platforms`
`19:27.19`	`Vulfe`	`instead of ignoring one at a time`
`19:27.20`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`19:28.05`	`Acemore`	`1 more for RAD`
`19:29.53`	`slightlyrandom`	`Come to EU and setup some games`
`19:30.49`	`Acemore`	`did they enable custom games there now?`
`19:30.58`	`slightlyrandom`	`unlikely`
`19:31.00`	`Acemore`	`xD`
`19:31.02`	`Acemore`	`we started btw`
`19:31.11`	`Vulfe`	`dammit acemore`
`19:31.19`	`Vulfe`	`why did you pick the clips where I was talking`
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`19:33.46`	`Vulfe`	`WTF`
`19:33.54`	`Vulfe`	`why aren't any of the doodad models working for my water doodads`
`19:34.07`	`Vulfe`	`I can fill my water with SCVs or Roaches`
`19:34.09`	`Vulfe`	`but not rocks`
`19:34.12`	`Vulfe`	`blarrgh`
`19:34.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`must be a pathing issue`
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`19:34.51`	`Vulfe`	`...`
`19:34.57`	`Vulfe`	`The doodads won't display as a model`
`19:35.00`	`Vulfe`	`just the sphere thing`
`19:35.03`	`Vulfe`	`the other ones work fine`
`19:37.50`	`Vailreth`	`do they work out side of the water>`
`19:38.11`	`Vulfe`	`yup`
`19:38.13`	`Vulfe`	`I found out...`
`19:38.14`	`Vulfe`	`it's weird`
`19:38.22`	`Vulfe`	`Foliage models (all doodads, basically) don't work as water doodads`
`19:38.24`	`Vulfe`	`for whatever reason`
`19:38.29`	`Vailreth`	`yes weird indeed`
`19:38.35`	`Vulfe`	`so I made a new model and put the model in there and then made it a water doodad`
`19:38.39`	`Vulfe`	`and it works fine`
`19:39.27`	`Vailreth`	`my work on my to be released mod is on hold for the momment because the stupid train ability is giving me greif`
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`19:40.32`	`poiuy_qwert`	`hai Corbo`
`19:40.35`	`Corbo`	`hi`
`19:40.49`	`Corbo`	`silly mirc keeps disconecting me`
`19:40.49`	`Corbo`	`D:`
`19:41.02`	`Vulfe`	`lol Vailreth`
`19:41.08`	`poiuy_qwert`	`poop`
`19:41.14`	`Vulfe`	`I promised myself not to do anything with heroes until beta was over`
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`19:42.39`	`Vulfe`	`those water doodads looked bad anyway`
`19:42.40`	`Vulfe`	`: \`
`19:43.07`	`Vulfe`	`I always feel like I have to put lava at the bottom of char organic cliffs otherwise it looks bad`
`19:44.55`	`Vulfe`	`http://tinypic.com/r/1zc0iuo/3`
`19:45.04`	`Vulfe`	`that's the current game board`
`19:45.06`	`Vulfe`	`I suppose I like it`
`19:45.12`	`Corbo`	`k so`
`19:45.21`	`Corbo`	`I might have corrupted my external drive D:`
`19:45.27`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`19:45.29`	`Vulfe`	`Corbo.`
`19:45.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`not funny ouch`
`19:45.58`	`Corbo`	`I think it has a short in the power cable`
`19:46.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`psh`
`19:46.02`	`Corbo`	`so I kept moving it.`
`19:46.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`neat clean Vulfe`
`19:46.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Rod doesn't know what a query is :(`
`19:46.05`	`Corbo`	`and turning it off`
`19:46.15`	`Corbo`	`now it says I have to format to use it D:`
`19:46.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`i dont?`
`19:46.24`	`Magesblood`	`3 slots RAD`
`19:46.25`	`Vulfe`	`you think it's good, RodOfNOD?`
`19:46.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`ya whats the game?`
`19:46.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Nope, yeh don't`
`19:46.37`	`Vulfe`	`Damage Control`
`19:46.38`	`Vulfe`	`current project`
`19:46.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`since yeh is ignoring my awesome query :(`
`19:46.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`19:46.45`	`Vailreth`	`what would be a good name for a terran infantry that fires acid sprays?`
`19:46.48`	`Vulfe`	`it's about minimalism and temporary investment`
`19:46.49`	`Vulfe`	`yaay.`
`19:46.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`im not ignoring it i didnt see it :>`
`19:46.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`repaste it`
`19:46.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lies`
`19:47.28`	`Vulfe`	`Is there a way to make buttons outside of Dialogs?`
`19:47.50`	`Vulfe`	`Like, besides making the dialog invisible :\`
`19:48.33`	`Vulfe`	`Display Screen Button?`
`19:49.51`	`Magesblood`	`1 Spot RAD join`
`19:49.55`	`Vulfe`	`Fine.`
`19:49.57`	`Vulfe`	`Be that way`
`19:49.58`	`Vulfe`	`I'm coming`
`19:50.28`	`Magesblood`	`full now`
`19:50.30`	`Magesblood`	`to slow`
`19:50.32`	`Magesblood`	`:P`
`19:51.57`	`Vulfe`	`Dammit`
`19:52.02`	`Vulfe`	`:'(`
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`19:53.19`	`goomba_`	`hi corbo`
`19:53.20`	`Iggyhopper`	`hey`
`19:53.24`	`Iggyhopper`	`corbo!`
`19:53.37`	`goomba_`	`wat`
`19:53.39`	`Iggyhopper`	`lol`
`19:53.55`	`Iggyhopper`	`Any news on the cracking of SC2 installer?`
`19:54.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`aint gonna happen`
`19:54.08`	`Iggyhopper`	`its encrypted?`
`19:54.13`	`Iggyhopper`	`too hard?`
`19:54.13`	`Corbo`	`HEY!`
`19:54.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`of course`
`19:54.17`	`Corbo`	`omg iggy`
`19:54.20`	`Iggyhopper`	`OMG`
`19:54.24`	`Corbo`	`OMG!`
`19:54.37`	`Iggyhopper`	`been super busy with other stuff on other sites`
`19:54.40`	`Vulfe`	`Why are the screen buttons so ugly`
`19:54.41`	`Vulfe`	`graaah`
`19:54.43`	`Corbo`	`OTHER SITES?`
`19:54.46`	`Corbo`	`YOU CHEATING WHORE!`
`19:54.54`	`Iggyhopper`	`IM SORRY, LUL`
`19:55.22`	`Iggyhopper`	`So SC2 crack isn't going to happen, shiiit`
`19:55.31`	`Corbo`	`Is it a plain exe?`
`19:55.33`	`Iggyhopper`	`did you guys check out any strings in the installer?`
`19:55.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`appears to be so corbo`
`19:55.53`	`Corbo`	`Did you try opening it withmpq editor?`
`19:55.58`	`slightlyrandom`	`Woa, debug messages take a lot of computing time :S`
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`19:56.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`well file format is called MPQE`
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`19:56.39`	`Corbo`	`I haven't DL'd`
`19:56.50`	`Corbo`	`The 7GB big kind of... depresses me`
`19:56.51`	`Corbo`	`:P`
`19:56.53`	`RodOfNOD`	`and it just crashed my winmpq so id say it was encrypted`
`19:57.02`	`Corbo`	`try Ladik's mpq editor`
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`19:57.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`there is good news`
`19:57.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`there is a pdf manual`
`19:57.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`:>`
`19:58.12`	`goomba_`	`orly`
`19:58.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`ya the install mpq isnt encrypted`
`19:59.07`	`Corbo`	`So you can open it?`
`19:59.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`yep`
`20:00.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`just noticed it i hadnt looked till u asked`
`20:00.11`	`goomba_`	`leet`
`20:00.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`for some reason i dont even have reader on my comp lol`
`20:00.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`so im installing that now`
`20:01.23`	`goomba_`	`im dling lol`
`20:02.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`dl what?`
`20:02.21`	`goomba_`	`the full game, thats what youre talking about right`
`20:02.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`ah yes`
`20:02.48`	`RodOfNOD`	`took me on and off 3 days`
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`20:03.00`	`goomba_`	`oh o.0`
`20:03.09`	`goomba_`	`you should upload the pdf somewhere xD`
`20:03.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Corbo (~thecorbo@190.87.72.189)`
`20:03.53`	`Corbo`	`MIRC keeps disconecting me omg`
`20:03.54`	`Corbo`	`anyway`
`20:03.58`	`Corbo`	`so can you open the mpq?`
`20:04.04`	`goomba_`	`are you dodgin me`
`20:04.06`	`goomba_`	`:'(`
`20:04.43`	`Corbo`	`?`
`20:05.57`	`Vulfe`	`the whole set of btn-border icons is useful`
`20:05.58`	`Vulfe`	`cool.`
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`20:12.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/starcraft-ii-manual/pages/main/`
`20:12.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`tell me if that pdf is readable`
`20:13.10`	`goomba_`	`it is`
`20:13.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`cool`
`20:13.28`	`ThunderLord`	`is there a way to remove the "Attack Move" function from a unit?`
`20:13.32`	`Vulfe`	`I need a condition that checks if a unit has a behavior`
`20:13.34`	`Vulfe`	`what should i use`
`20:13.37`	`Vulfe`	`is there a preset for that?`
`20:13.46`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`20:13.57`	`goomba_`	`nothing really interesting in there ;\`
`20:14.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`what do u mean exactly ThunderLord`
`20:14.15`	`ThunderLord`	`if i press attack then click on ground`
`20:14.18`	`ThunderLord`	`it dose nothing`
`20:14.24`	`ThunderLord`	`or just a regular move`
`20:14.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`but u still want attack i take it`
`20:14.49`	`ThunderLord`	`but if i right click a unit`
`20:14.55`	`ThunderLord`	`meh`
`20:14.58`	`ThunderLord`	`i could live without`
`20:15.12`	`ThunderLord`	`but attack move and attack do nothing`
`20:15.13`	`Vulfe`	`Is there a way to get an array of behaviors for the purposes of using a for loop?`
`20:15.28`	`ThunderLord`	`it is going to be done via triggers`
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`20:15.43`	`ThunderLord`	`so i need a way to reference if the unit right clicks an enemy`
`20:15.59`	`ThunderLord`	`but it dosent send attack command`
`20:16.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`if u target a unit it will attack but if u dont it shouldnt attack till the move right?`
`20:16.58`	`ThunderLord`	`right`
`20:17.05`	`ThunderLord`	`i think`
`20:17.07`	`Krakarn`	`anyone know if the different lighting used with time of day is broken in game`
`20:17.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`so what do u want different`
`20:17.22`	`ThunderLord`	`if you attack move`
`20:17.29`	`ThunderLord`	`it dose nothing`
`20:17.34`	`ThunderLord`	`if you attack`
`20:17.38`	`ThunderLord`	`is send attacks`
`20:17.48`	`RodOfNOD`	`u mean if u pick the actual ATTACK button`
`20:17.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`and not just a SMART?`
`20:17.57`	`ThunderLord`	`yes`
`20:18.01`	`ThunderLord`	`or a right click`
`20:18.05`	`ThunderLord`	`on a unit`
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`20:18.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`k well`
`20:18.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`if u select attack and right click nothing happens`
`20:18.43`	`ThunderLord`	`if you select attack and left click`
`20:18.47`	`wOlfLinG`	`Well, im bored :(`
`20:18.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`so u mean left`
`20:18.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`not right right?`
`20:19.25`	`wOlfLinG`	`Just so you know, Starlogo is pretty complicated for something that is supposed to be for 12+`
`20:19.34`	`ThunderLord`	`if you right click a unit it automaticly sends the attack command, if you press attack and left click a UNIT it sends attack command, if you press attack and left clcick the GROUND it dose nothing`
`20:20.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`i am in the game atm thuder and it doesnt do what u say`
`20:20.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`i have a unit i click on it i click on attack and if i right click nothing happens`
`20:20.29`	`ThunderLord`	`correct`
`20:20.36`	`ThunderLord`	`it cancles the command to attack`
`20:20.40`	`ThunderLord`	`what i am talking about`
`20:20.56`	`ThunderLord`	`if you click attack then LEFT click the GROUND it needs to do nothing`
`20:20.57`	`FrozenFirebat`	`you have your attack as target unit, and not target unit/point?`
`20:22.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`i know`
`20:22.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`u said right`
`20:22.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`testing`
`20:22.18`	`LordAbyss`	`http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o17/LordAbyssPhotos/?action=view&current=Terrain019.jpg`
`20:22.21`	`LordAbyss`	`what do you guys think?`
`20:22.21`	`Sublimity`	`ThunderLord: Would it work to just make the unit not auto-acquire?`
`20:22.55`	`ThunderLord`	`if he enters range of a unit he needs to attack`
`20:23.00`	`ThunderLord`	`he can move and attack at the same time`
`20:23.07`	`ThunderLord`	`witch is kinda a whole part of this`
`20:23.09`	`Krakarn`	`LordAbyss what is it?`
`20:23.14`	`ThunderLord`	`he needs to not stop when a unit comes within range`
`20:23.39`	`LordAbyss`	`it a capture point for my map`
`20:23.47`	`LordAbyss`	`but its made better for cinematic`
`20:24.02`	`ThunderLord`	`how doi set it so the Attack command, cannot tartget the ground?`
`20:24.32`	`Krakarn`	`looks nice`
`20:27.19`	`Barter`	`ThunderLord: in the attack ability, smart filters, exclude ground`
`20:27.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`20:27.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Rod`
`20:27.24`	`Barter`	`I guess`
`20:27.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`go looks at teh chatz!`
`20:27.26`	`Barter`	`didnt test`
`20:27.31`	`ThunderLord`	`Cool`
`20:27.32`	`ThunderLord`	`ill try it`
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`20:30.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`is there any unit that only attacks ground in sc2?`
`20:30.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`talking about the actual ground not ground units`
`20:31.03`	`Sublimity`	`No`
`20:31.35`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Siege Tank?`
`20:31.41`	`LordAbyss`	`nope`
`20:31.50`	`Sublimity`	`I think every unit that does splash, including the tank, does primary damage to a unit, and then splash around it`
`20:31.52`	`LordAbyss`	`he is talking about how some units in wc3 could attack ground`
`20:31.58`	`RodOfNOD`	`do u think its possible to make a unit only hit ground like wc3?`
`20:31.58`	`LordAbyss`	`like catapults`
`20:32.06`	`Sublimity`	`There are no splash units in SC2 with a missile that can miss.`
`20:32.09`	`FrozenFirebat`	`should be possible ROD`
`20:32.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`well im not seeing ground as a target that means what it meant in wc3`
`20:32.27`	`Hati`	`zaszudaosdakmfg`
`20:32.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`:P`
`20:32.34`	`FrozenFirebat`	`look up the Thor 250mm strike... it uses a effect called a dummy...`
`20:32.35`	`Hati`	`starcraft2 german ad oO`
`20:32.58`	`Sublimity`	`Make a weapon with a psi storm-like effect.`
`20:33.25`	`FrozenFirebat`	`I'm 25% positive you might be able to use a dummy effect to target ground and cause a search effect hit a unit in range`
`20:33.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You can make anything attack the ground by setting it to Target Point`
`20:34.22`	`Vailreth`	`yay i fixed my Training units issue... i just had to add two command cards`
`20:34.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`where do u set this target point ProzaicMuze ?`
`20:34.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The effect`
`20:35.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The Launch and Impact Locations`
`20:35.15`	`RodOfNOD`	`k but attack doesnt have those`
`20:35.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Launch is the unit that fires and Impact is typically Target Unit`
`20:35.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you can change it to Impact Location`
`20:35.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The ability attack?`
`20:35.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes`
`20:35.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`All it does is tell the weapon to fire`
`20:35.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If the weapon can target a specific point, the ability will require you to select a point`
`20:36.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`k`
`20:36.28`	`Azkit`	`You'll need a search effect if you want it to damage any units surrounding the point, however.`
`20:36.56`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`20:36.58`	`Vulfe`	`yeah.`
`20:37.02`	`Vulfe`	`zealot attacking air = bad`
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`20:37.32`	`Vulfe`	`I remember an old wc3 game where all of the attacking was missable`
`20:37.35`	`Vulfe`	`that game was so fun...`
`20:37.39`	`Vulfe`	`never became popular tho`
`20:37.56`	`RodOfNOD`	`k while i do want to do ground damage what i am trying to do is answer ThunderLords question about prevenenting left click on ground from moving the unit`
`20:38.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`when they actually pick attack`
`20:41.06`	`Vulfe`	`is there a way to use a global variable for my color to tint color in an actor message action?`
`20:42.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So you don't want the unit to move close enough to attack when you A-click on something?`
`20:42.40`	`Vulfe`	`can someone walk me through this`
`20:42.41`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`20:43.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`unless u actually pick a unit`
`20:43.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`that is correct`
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`20:43.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`i changed the attacks effect damage to min count 1`
`20:43.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`didnt do jack`
`20:43.55`	`ProzaicMuze`	`hrm`
`20:44.06`	`Barter`	`what I told him should work, but I didnt test it`
`20:44.16`	`RodOfNOD`	`what did u tell him?`
`20:44.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`exclude ground for smart filters`
`20:44.30`	`Vailreth`	`damn now its doing it again and training TWO of every custom unit`
`20:44.32`	`Barter`	`that`
`20:44.35`	`Barter`	`[17:27] <Barter> ThunderLord: in the attack ability, smart filters, exclude ground`
`20:44.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`that ground refers to ground units`
`20:44.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`not the actual ground`
`20:44.44`	`Barter`	`well`
`20:44.47`	`Vulfe`	`Prozaic`
`20:44.49`	`Barter`	`require unit then`
`20:44.52`	`Vulfe`	`Mind helping me with something?`
`20:44.56`	`Barter`	`instead of exclude ground`
`20:45.15`	`RodOfNOD`	`did u mean search filters?`
`20:45.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`What do you need help with Vulfe?`
`20:45.57`	`Barter`	`I meant smart`
`20:46.12`	`Vulfe`	`What is the syntax for an actor message to set tint (in custom script)`
`20:46.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`i dont see that`
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`20:46.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`search yes`
`20:46.23`	`Barter`	`its on the attack ability`
`20:46.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`not smart`
`20:46.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`k`
`20:46.57`	`Barter`	`anyway, you gotta change stuff on the filters so you cant target the ground`
`20:47.10`	`Barter`	`like a skill that needs a target`
`20:47.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`there is no require unit`
`20:48.22`	`Vulfe`	`http://pastebin.org/402213`
`20:48.27`	`Barter`	`look at neural parasite or something`
`20:48.39`	`Barter`	`you need to target a unit`
`20:49.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`k well i feel we can make this happen with a FAKE attack`
`20:49.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`i was trying to do it with the actual attack ability`
`20:49.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol are you asking about how to send actor's messages with Triggers?`
`20:49.38`	`Vulfe`	`can't you just use triggers to do it with an effect - target ability x.x`
`20:49.45`	`ThunderLord`	`i got it worked out`
`20:49.55`	`Vulfe`	`Yes, Prozaic`
`20:49.56`	`ThunderLord`	`i just trashed the actual command card button for attack`
`20:50.05`	`Vulfe`	`the trigger part is basically irrelevant though`
`20:50.33`	`Vulfe`	`It's about actor message syntax`
`20:53.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Well I know nothing about getting actor messages to actors through triggers`
`20:53.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`but if you want to set tint in the actor itself`
`20:54.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'd assume you need to send a message that deos something like:`
`20:54.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Actor Creation > Set Tint Color`
`20:54.19`	`Vulfe`	`I'm talking about galaxy script tho`
`20:54.20`	`Vulfe`	`: (`
`20:54.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Make that event on a dummy actor`
`20:54.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`then change it to raw data view`
`20:54.36`	`Vulfe`	`Well`
`20:54.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I "think" that's how it needs to be for galaxy script`
`20:54.40`	`Vulfe`	`Let me test this syntax`
`20:54.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm not sure though`
`20:54.48`	`Vulfe`	`if it doesn't work, I'll try`
`20:55.26`	`Vulfe`	`the problem is that I want to tint based on a color variable`
`20:55.31`	`Vulfe`	`and I'm not sure how the input for that works`
`20:55.32`	`Vulfe`	`: \`
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`20:55.54`	`Vulfe`	`Lol.`
`20:56.00`	`Vulfe`	`I put quotations around it`
`20:56.01`	`Vulfe`	`and now it works`
`20:56.03`	`Vulfe`	`yaay.`
`20:56.24`	`Vulfe`	`at least presumably : )`
`20:58.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`is there a reason why the hydra has 2 attacks?`
`20:58.37`	`Azkit`	`How would one rotate the minimap by 180 degrees for particular players?`
`20:58.38`	`Vulfe`	`hydra has a melee attack`
`20:58.41`	`ThunderLord`	`Okay i have a question`
`20:58.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`i know the animations change but why even do that? also why hide the icon`
`20:58.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`i know`
`20:58.45`	`Azkit`	`The Hydra has 2 attacks for ranged v melee`
`20:58.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`im asking why`
`20:58.57`	`Vulfe`	`because`
`20:58.58`	`RodOfNOD`	`damage is the same`
`20:58.59`	`Azkit`	`Just for aesthetics.`
`20:59.00`	`Vulfe`	`they felt like having it?`
`20:59.12`	`Vulfe`	`i mean presumably they need it for the animation to play`
`20:59.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok so why not show both icons when they actually HAVE a melee icon`
`20:59.29`	`Azkit`	`Because the damage is the same.`
`20:59.33`	`Vulfe`	`they want to change it without making it look like it has two attacks`
`20:59.39`	`Vulfe`	`because the two attacks are identical`
`20:59.41`	`Vulfe`	`omnomnom`
`20:59.43`	`Vailreth`	`hmm i wonder why i am still producing two custom units when i train one..`
`20:59.43`	`goomba_`	`help ive fallen and cant get up`
`20:59.54`	`Vulfe`	`custom units`
`20:59.55`	`Vulfe`	`interesting`
`21:00.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`but they actually have an icon for the melee attack`
`21:00.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`we just dont see it`
`21:00.20`	`Azkit`	`Yep.`
`21:00.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`i wonder what the game uses to determine which attack to use`
`21:00.37`	`Azkit`	`It's probably the same icon for the Zergling`
`21:00.47`	`Vailreth`	`range i belive`
`21:01.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`so then it always assumes minimum for example... assume we have to range attacks`
`21:01.15`	`Azkit`	`One attack probably has a minimum of 0.5 range while the other attack has a maximum of 0.5 range, or so probably.`
`21:01.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`1 works at 10 the other works at 5`
`21:01.27`	`ThunderLord`	`My unit can move and attack at the same time, Via Data in its weapon, I need to send a command to it (every .25 seconds or so) to attack a Unit (A unit defined by a variable) so i need my unit to keep moving based on its origional command but also change its attack target to whatever that variable is, how would i do that without cancleing the origional move order`
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`21:01.58`	`Barter`	`I think its because the melee weapon is index 0 and the ranged is 1`
`21:02.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`no cuz i just switched it`
`21:02.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`and it didnt change`
`21:02.26`	`Barter`	`oh`
`21:02.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`im envisioning a weapon that is more powerful the further away u are`
`21:02.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`and based on ur theories that would work`
`21:02.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`but what if i want a weapon tha is less powerful`
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`21:03.14`	`ThunderLord`	`anyone have any ideas?`
`21:03.20`	`Vulfe`	`hmm`
`21:03.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`store all orders and reorder ALL orders`
`21:03.37`	`Vulfe`	`is it substitutable for a phoenix fire behavior that uses range based on preference?`
`21:03.39`	`Vulfe`	`or something like that`
`21:03.53`	`Vulfe`	`preference based on range, rather`
`21:04.26`	`ThunderLord`	`no cuz when it is ordered the "Attack" command, it wants to attack, kill the unit, then move on`
`21:05.05`	`Vulfe`	`you could do what Rod is talking about`
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`21:05.29`	`Vulfe`	`or you could make an replacement ability for attack that applies an invisible behavior for phoenix fire`
`21:05.31`	`Vulfe`	`which is what I would do`
`21:05.41`	`Barter`	`RodOfNOD: hmm, in the effect - marker, the melee is linked to the ranged and they both have the linked cooldown option`
`21:06.08`	`Vulfe`	`Barter, isn't that just to prevent both weapons from firing at once?`
`21:06.54`	`Barter`	`well, yeah, but how does it decide which one to fire if it can fire both`
`21:07.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`well heres what i did`
`21:07.07`	`Vulfe`	`acquire range, or something like that`
`21:07.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`i took a zealot i added gause`
`21:07.13`	`Vulfe`	`I looked into this before x.x`
`21:07.19`	`RodOfNOD`	`and it worked with no other working`
`21:07.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`fired marine style till it got close`
`21:07.37`	`Vailreth`	`its their ranges`
`21:07.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`then it atttack zealot style`
`21:07.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`whichever has least range takes priority`
`21:07.51`	`Barter`	`yeah its prob the range then`
`21:07.51`	`Vailreth`	`i think`
`21:07.52`	`Barter`	`or`
`21:08.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`i bet if the range is the same then it picks the first`
`21:08.03`	`Barter`	`if the weapon has melee option enabled`
`21:08.06`	`Barter`	`then it has priority`
`21:08.14`	`Barter`	`either one`
`21:08.49`	`Barter`	`test with 2 ranged`
`21:08.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol i iddnt know that dts and hts are consider same for archons`
`21:10.43`	`Vailreth`	`can some one help me i need to get the Lauch location of a asset correct and it doesnt seem to want to work... i am using a marauder model with a Roach acid weapon and it wont fire from the marauders weapons..`
`21:12.19`	`RodOfNOD`	`i think its a shame that blizzard didnt choose to support cloak as an ability and allow u to pick which ability to reveal the unit that way u could support multiple types of cloaking`
`21:12.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`Vailreth let me help with that if i can`
`21:12.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`i need to learn that anyways`
`21:13.20`	`Vailreth`	`any help is welcome.`
`21:13.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`k let me get setup with ur same guys`
`21:14.29`	`depthsofchaos`	`well you could make custom cloak with validators`
`21:15.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`that would be fun cuz then u could have multiple levels of cloak`
`21:15.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`and anticloak`
`21:15.42`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok Vailreth the acid comes from his face`
`21:15.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`where do u want it to come from?`
`21:15.52`	`depthsofchaos`	`id use a behaviour on the cloacked unit to identify the cloack type then search area on the detector that applys behaviour to cloaked unit :p`
`21:16.03`	`Vailreth`	`the marauder weapons`
`21:16.06`	`Vailreth`	`the hands basicly`
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`21:16.51`	`Vulfe`	`how do I make my builder fly`
`21:16.55`	`Vulfe`	`I don't use units often x.x`
`21:17.06`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`sprinkle magic dust on him and tell him to think happy thoughts`
`21:17.10`	`depthsofchaos`	`you give it red bull?`
`21:18.22`	`Vailreth`	`that reminds me who is doing the item kits?`
`21:19.20`	`depthsofchaos`	`phaos?`
`21:19.31`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Indeed it is`
`21:20.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol oh shit i was wrong before when i add the acid weapon to the maurader as a second it fires BOTH weapons`
`21:20.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`i just didnt see it before cuz of the marines lack of animation`
`21:21.30`	`slightlyrandom`	`Vulfe: Movement Plane`
`21:21.36`	`slightlyrandom`	`As well as collision`
`21:21.42`	`Vulfe`	`did collision`
`21:21.42`	`Vulfe`	`okay`
`21:21.43`	`Vulfe`	`thanks`
`21:22.16`	`greg__`	`slightlyrandom`
`21:22.28`	`greg__`	`do you want to be thanked on the loading screen of my map`
`21:22.36`	`greg__`	`i'm probably releasing it today`
`21:23.29`	`RodOfNOD`	`Vailreth do u want the actual weapon acid from roach or just the visual effect?`
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`21:28.07`	`slightlyrandom`	`Thanked for what? :P`
`21:28.39`	`slightlyrandom`	`I mean, I won't complain about it`
`21:28.48`	`slightlyrandom`	`But I won't complain either way, lets put it that way`
`21:29.24`	`slightlyrandom`	`Shiiiit, I've introduced sooo many bugs in this thing`
`21:29.25`	`slightlyrandom`	`hah`
`21:33.37`	`allenmelon`	`do you have to be online to watch replays?`
`21:34.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Sort of?`
`21:34.21`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`You used to be able to do it offline by dragging the replay over the shortcut`
`21:34.26`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but I think that got fixed or whatever`
`21:34.27`	`allenmelon`	`now you cant?`
`21:34.40`	`allenmelon`	`dangit`
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`21:37.16`	`Vulfe`	`Wow`
`21:37.16`	`Vulfe`	`What?`
`21:37.25`	`Vulfe`	`This unit has a button on the command card`
`21:37.28`	`Vulfe`	`and it's not showing up`
`21:37.28`	`Vulfe`	`at all`
`21:37.38`	`Vulfe`	`no requirements, it's just a submenu button`
`21:37.39`	`Vulfe`	`wtfff`
`21:38.39`	`Vailreth`	`actuall weapon`
`21:38.50`	`Vailreth`	`sorry i was in another room for a bit`
`21:39.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`do u have anything on the submenu?`
`21:39.39`	`Vailreth`	`?`
`21:39.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`Vailreth well im blown away cuz ive swapped out the models and it still fires with the marauder weapons lol`
`21:40.00`	`Vailreth`	`hmm`
`21:40.15`	`allenmelon`	`huh, i cant open two replays i downloaded`
`21:40.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`probably pre 17`
`21:40.29`	`Helral`	`Rod: did you swap out the weapon model?`
`21:40.35`	`Vailreth`	`i have to go i will see you all another time`
`21:40.59`	`allenmelon`	`i dled this replay, http://www.sc2rc.com/index.php/replay/show/2782`
`21:41.03`	`Vulfe`	`oh`
`21:41.06`	`Vulfe`	`Vailreth`
`21:41.06`	`Vulfe`	`yes`
`21:41.09`	`Vulfe`	`I do have something on the submenu`
`21:41.14`	`allenmelon`	`but when i drag and drop on sc2, it says cannot open`
`21:41.24`	`allenmelon`	`can anyone else try and downloading it and playing it?`
`21:42.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`Helral i did on the effects`
`21:42.43`	`Vulfe`	`gaaah`
`21:42.47`	`Vulfe`	`why doesn't this work`
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`21:44.41`	`Vulfe`	`Can anyone help me figure this out?`
`21:45.12`	`Helral`	`hmmm Vulfe: do you have a button set for the submenu?`
`21:45.17`	`Vulfe`	`yess`
`21:45.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`take ss of ur 2 pages`
`21:45.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`with the button selected each time`
`21:45.39`	`Vulfe`	`ok`
`21:46.18`	`Vulfe`	`ahh`
`21:46.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`Helral im dumbfounded i changed all the models and it still fires the normal model`
`21:46.27`	`Vulfe`	`starcraft auto-screencap doesn't work in this submenu`
`21:46.28`	`Vulfe`	`one sec`
`21:48.08`	`Helral`	`what does it fire that should be different but isn't Rod? the missile or the weapon itself?`
`21:48.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`missile`
`21:48.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`is a fireball`
`21:48.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`instead of acid`
`21:48.39`	`RodOfNOD`	`ive changed all 3 models too`
`21:49.07`	`Helral`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:49.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`no of course not :P`
`21:49.45`	`Helral`	`that's the missile actor....`
`21:50.47`	`Vulfe`	`http://tinypic.com/r/233eid/3`
`21:50.48`	`Vulfe`	`that's the first`
`21:50.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`k ty`
`21:50.52`	`Vulfe`	`one second for the second`
`21:51.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`well i can fire actual roaches at people now`
`21:51.16`	`Vulfe`	`http://tinypic.com/r/28spv0p/3`
`21:51.17`	`Vulfe`	`second`
`21:51.47`	`Reactorex`	`Crash Company must be some kind of sick joke..`
`21:51.53`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`21:51.58`	`Reactorex`	`My computer's crashed twice trying to load the map.`
`21:52.08`	`Reactorex`	`And that's the only map it does it on.`
`21:52.08`	`Vulfe`	`Isn't it called crush company?`
`21:52.24`	`Reactorex`	`Might be.`
`21:52.32`	`Reactorex`	`I'm just going to say to myself it's crash company.`
`21:52.40`	`Vulfe`	`okay`
`21:52.41`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but you are saying it to us`
`21:52.50`	`Repo`	`New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/suhteevah-terrain-demo/. Suhteevah-terrain-demo. gankstapony (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by xhatix.`
`21:52.50`	`Reactorex`	`If I say it to myself, I'll believe it.`
`21:52.56`	`Reactorex`	`And then say to everyone else likewise.`
`21:53.16`	`Repo`	`New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/starcraft-ii-manual/. StarCraft II Manual. RodOfNOD (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix.`
`21:53.20`	`Reactorex`	`'cause I didn't say it'd be exclusive to myself, did I? :)`
`21:53.33`	`Repo`	`New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/sand-storm/. Sand Storm. LunaticSounds (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix.`
`21:53.44`	`Repo`	`New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/legacy-war/. legacy of war. LunaticSounds (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix.`
`21:54.03`	`Vulfe`	`rod, have you looked at the ss?`
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`21:55.04`	`allenmelon`	`i cant load replays...`
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`21:58.46`	`allenmelon`	`when i drag and drop, it says unable to open replay, and when i put it in the replays folder in my documents, it doesnt see the replay`
`21:59.23`	`FrozenFirebat`	`when a unit has multiple animations of the same name (Fidget and Fidget 2, for example) how do I get it to always play the same one?`
`21:59.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`Vulfe still looking`
`21:59.32`	`Vulfe`	`mmkay`
`21:59.35`	`Vulfe`	`I'm looking at the abilities`
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`22:00.42`	`FrozenFirebat`	`nm`
`22:01.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`yeah u have to have some kind of ability`
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`22:03.17`	`Vulfe`	`I do`
`22:03.23`	`Vulfe`	`And it looks fine to me`
`22:03.25`	`Vulfe`	`: \`
`22:07.42`	`Vulfe`	`Lol`
`22:07.48`	`Vulfe`	`If you order a probe to patrol right next to itself`
`22:07.54`	`Vulfe`	`it starts spinning crazily in circles`
`22:08.27`	`Vulfe`	`I'm starting the map with the unit spawned already`
`22:08.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok vulfe confirm this for me`
`22:08.30`	`Vulfe`	`would that be a problem?`
`22:08.33`	`Vulfe`	`sure`
`22:08.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`what is the name of ur ability?`
`22:08.40`	`Vulfe`	`Construct`
`22:08.41`	`depthsofchaos`	`player group automatically puts players in order how anyoing is that :o`
`22:08.42`	`Vulfe`	`with StructureCore`
`22:08.47`	`Vulfe`	`the button has the same name`
`22:08.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok and its on the ability list i see`
`22:08.56`	`RodOfNOD`	`show me that ss`
`22:09.02`	`Vulfe`	`sure`
`22:09.05`	`Vulfe`	`it only makes one thing`
`22:09.12`	`Vulfe`	`basically copied from another`
`22:09.39`	`Vulfe`	`what do you want an ss from?`
`22:09.43`	`Vulfe`	`just data page, or a specific dialog?`
`22:09.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`the 2nd page clicked on the ability`
`22:11.44`	`Vulfe`	`http://tinypic.com/r/33mwubn/3`
`22:11.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`Vail\|away if u change the actor on the actual missile u can make it look like u want if u base ur weapon off of the original maurader weapon. however NONE of the roach acid weapons work because they are not the proper type of model`
`22:12.16`	`RodOfNOD`	`sorry i meant the command card dialog page 2 clicked on the top left`
`22:12.37`	`Vulfe`	`I already sent that`
`22:12.38`	`Vulfe`	`I think`
`22:12.39`	`Vulfe`	`right?`
`22:13.09`	`Vulfe`	`http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=28spv0p&s=3`
`22:13.10`	`Vulfe`	`this?`
`22:14.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`ya`
`22:14.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok so`
`22:14.39`	`RodOfNOD`	`try swapping the ability in both places for something we know works like scv build`
`22:14.52`	`Vulfe`	`you mean like`
`22:15.03`	`Vulfe`	`just giving it probe build or something`
`22:15.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`in the unit ability list AND on page 2 ability`
`22:15.16`	`Vulfe`	`ok`
`22:15.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`just make both look like the CC build for a scv`
`22:15.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`ill bb`
`22:15.58`	`Helral`	`Vulfe: check if the flag hidden is set for the ability.`
`22:16.22`	`Vulfe`	`there is no hidden flag`
`22:16.24`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`22:16.36`	`Helral`	`ow wait that's with behaviors XD`
`22:17.50`	`Helral`	`can ya take a screeny of how it looks ingame?`
`22:17.58`	`Vulfe`	`It works in that configuration RodofNOD`
`22:18.12`	`Helral`	`hmmmm`
`22:18.29`	`slightlyrandom`	`depthsofchaos: I know, it totally messed me up`
`22:18.39`	`rrowland`	`I'm melting`
`22:19.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Now there all turning on Vernam`
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`22:20.25`	`Vulfe`	`Is there anything I would need to do to a pylon to have it constructed by a build ability?`
`22:20.26`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`22:20.27`	`depthsofchaos`	`ye now i have to use array, rly useful blizard :p rly cant see a reason behind this`
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`22:20.38`	`Ousnius`	`heya`
`22:20.42`	`Vulfe`	`hi`
`22:20.48`	`Vulfe`	`is afk`
`22:20.52`	`Vulfe`	`for a while`
`22:20.57`	`Helral`	`nothing to the unit itself.`
`22:21.03`	`Vulfe`	`good`
`22:21.04`	`Ousnius`	`any news on the Camera Yaw problem?`
`22:22.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`depthsofchaos: It sure made my triggers all sorts of confusing :D`
`22:23.01`	`slightlyrandom`	`Should a game present you with a Defeat screen if you can still stay and spectate?`
`22:23.36`	`depthsofchaos`	`make it custom :o`
`22:23.40`	`Helral`	`just create a custom defeat screen with 2 buttons: leave game, or continue watching XF`
`22:23.42`	`Helral`	`XD*`
`22:23.54`	`depthsofchaos`	`stop stealing my unique ideas`
`22:23.57`	`slightlyrandom`	`Why? I just altered the name on the Tie screen :P`
`22:24.02`	`Helral`	`they're not unique :P`
`22:24.04`	`slightlyrandom`	`My Tie says Defeat now`
`22:24.26`	`slightlyrandom`	`But I am wondering if you want that popup in your face`
`22:24.32`	`Helral`	`btw depths I don't steal your Idea's.`
`22:24.37`	`Helral`	`I just implement them XD`
`22:24.43`	`depthsofchaos`	`my ideas steal you!`
`22:25.11`	`Helral`	`MindWorX you there?`
`22:25.13`	`depthsofchaos`	`thinks about having 1 billion dollas`
`22:25.22`	`depthsofchaos`	`6me waits helral to implement`
`22:25.24`	`allenmelon`	`RAD!`
`22:25.25`	`Helral`	`has 1 billion dollars now.`
`22:25.29`	`depthsofchaos`	`naooo`
`22:25.31`	`depthsofchaos`	`wrong b`
`22:25.32`	`Helral`	`:P`
`22:25.37`	`allenmelon`	`lets get rad on page one`
`22:25.53`	`Helral`	`I never said I'd implement them in your benefit.`
`22:26.05`	`allenmelon`	`keep starting and quitting`
`22:26.13`	`Helral`	`but ok then depths:`
`22:26.26`	`slightlyrandom`	`So, the popup is a good thing, then?`
`22:26.43`	`Helral`	`thinks about how much 1 billion dollars would weigh, and sees it crush depthsofchaos in his mind.`
`22:26.44`	`Helral`	`XD`
`22:27.32`	`depthsofchaos`	`1 billion dollars cant crush me!!! unless its in quarters :p`
`22:27.51`	`FrozenFirebat`	`sorry, depths, it's in pennies.`
`22:28.04`	`Helral`	`hehehe XP`
`22:28.06`	`depthsofchaos`	`that hurt`
`22:28.23`	`rrowland`	`hmm`
`22:28.26`	`Helral`	`seems that there is a new patch available for the EU.... according to my SC2Menu....`
`22:28.29`	`rrowland`	`is 25 pennies heavier than 1 quarter`
`22:28.52`	`Dustin`	`WHAT A PATCH>?!`
`22:29.15`	`depthsofchaos`	`-Fixed a bug that would allow a mapmapker to upload a map`
`22:29.19`	`TheLaughingMan`	`~seen Sixen`
`22:29.20`	`purl`	`sixen is currently on #sc2mapster #wowuidev. Has said a total of 257 messages. Is idling for 11h 10m 5s, last said: 'k, i'm goin' to bed.'.`
`22:29.24`	`ThunderLord`	`Anyone know how i can trigger a unit to change its attack target, (one with a weapon that allows it to move) without interupting any move order it already has in place`
`22:29.29`	`depthsofchaos`	`-removed chesscraft from the gamelist`
`22:30.02`	`rrowland`	`Apparently a penny is half the weight of a quarter`
`22:30.02`	`FrozenFirebat`	`2.5 grams is the weight of the current made penny... at 1Billion x 100 x 2.5, the weight of that load would be 250 Million Kilos`
`22:30.30`	`ThunderLord`	`anyone have any ideas?`
`22:30.31`	`rrowland`	`Quarters feel heavier than 5g`
`22:30.32`	`Helral`	`hmmm sc2 menu lied.`
`22:30.48`	`slightlyrandom`	`ThunderLord: Save it's old order, issue the new one, issue the old one`
`22:30.49`	`Dustin`	`5G?!`
`22:30.56`	`ThunderLord`	`tried that`
`22:30.59`	`Dustin`	`Id like 5grams of something`
`22:31.08`	`ThunderLord`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`22:32.03`	`ThunderLord`	`with that, it is like he is not getting the attack command`
`22:32.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`FYI - if a person named Anon every logs in, smack him with a multitude of trouts`
`22:32.21`	`slightlyrandom`	`That has the same effect as Unit - Order IMMORTALS[(Picked integer)] to Attack (After Existing Orders)`
`22:32.28`	`FrozenFirebat`	`Red Clay Brick - average measuring about 4" x 8" x 2 1/4" thick (10 cm x 20 cm x 5 1/2 cm) - weigh just under 6 lbs (about 2.7 Kilograms) apiece.Â 250,000,000 Kg / 2.7 Kg(per brick) = 92592592.6 Bricks being burried under`
`22:32.46`	`Whiskee`	`hey guys, new patch - let's bet what managed to break today!`
`22:33.20`	`FrozenFirebat`	`I'm gonna be pissed if the things i've been fixing for the past week, break again due to a new patch`
`22:33.34`	`rrowland`	`There's really a new patch?`
`22:33.41`	`Sixen`	`sup`
`22:33.41`	`rrowland`	`2 days before downtime`
`22:33.42`	`Whiskee`	`yes, just downloaded it`
`22:33.42`	`rrowland`	`lol`
`22:33.46`	`rrowland`	`On US?`
`22:33.48`	`Whiskee`	`y`
`22:33.55`	`Whiskee`	`a message told me to log out and check for patches`
`22:33.56`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Sixen, what is the biggest thread`
`22:34.00`	`Whiskee`	`now: version not recognized etc.`
`22:34.15`	`Whiskee`	`let's open the editor and prepare for the worst :P`
`22:34.18`	`slightlyrandom`	`Synonym for quit starting with, or containing the letter S`
`22:34.19`	`slightlyrandom`	`GO!`
`22:34.35`	`Sixen`	`I dunno TLM, i'd have to look`
`22:34.44`	`Helral`	`kicks Sixen.`
`22:34.51`	`Helral`	`don't ask me why....`
`22:35.05`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I need to see how it handles pages`
`22:35.08`	`ThunderLord`	`Maybe they will fix some of the stuf from the last patch and our editor will work better...`
`22:35.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The patch is likely to lock everything down while we wait for launch :(`
`22:35.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`when it gets to alot`
`22:35.19`	`ThunderLord`	`ah, who am i kidding`
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`22:36.06`	`RedWraith`	`A new patch...`
`22:36.08`	`RedWraith`	`and it's small`
`22:36.13`	`RedWraith`	`major exploit?`
`22:36.29`	`RedWraith`	`Blizzard doesn't generally release patches on weekends.`
`22:36.32`	`Helral`	`where's the patch?`
`22:36.36`	`RedWraith`	`Try playing.`
`22:36.42`	`Whiskee`	`probably minor fixes`
`22:36.44`	`Helral`	`I did no patch.`
`22:36.48`	`Sixen`	`I'm patching`
`22:36.55`	`RedWraith`	`Are you in Europe or America, Helral?`
`22:37.01`	`Whiskee`	`i'm in the editor, I'll tell you what changed (if anything)`
`22:37.05`	`Helral`	`Europe XD`
`22:37.11`	`rrowland`	`I'm not patching until I know it's safe`
`22:37.11`	`rrowland`	`:P`
`22:37.13`	`Whiskee`	`okay - textures still bugged`
`22:37.14`	`Helral`	`and my SC2 said that there was a patch.`
`22:37.28`	`Helral`	`logged out, and in.... no patch.`
`22:37.30`	`Vail\|away`	`and i am`
`22:37.39`	`Vailreth`	`back`
`22:37.45`	`ThunderLord`	`me too helral`
`22:37.46`	`RedWraith`	`Helral, I don't think someone could've hacked Blizzard and given them a new patch. :P`
`22:37.49`	`Whiskee`	`you must reboot the client, not just logout`
`22:37.59`	`Whiskee`	`but i wouldn't do that`
`22:38.02`	`ThunderLord`	`i did that`
`22:38.05`	`Whiskee`	`until they take the servers down`
`22:38.07`	`ThunderLord`	`im going to wait`
`22:38.17`	`Helral`	`lemme rephrase, I quit SC2, started up sc2 no patch, quit sc2, started up sc2 still no patch XD`
`22:38.17`	`ThunderLord`	`and let the SC2 mapster community be my guine pig`
`22:38.24`	`RedWraith`	`It's rewriting a large number of models and textures.`
`22:38.27`	`ThunderLord`	`if you guys go in and WTF`
`22:38.27`	`Whiskee`	`didn't notice anything weird in my map so far (local test)`
`22:38.29`	`ThunderLord`	`ill know`
`22:38.42`	`Whiskee`	`Helral`
`22:38.46`	`Whiskee`	`it's on NA`
`22:38.46`	`RedWraith`	`I think you guys worry much too easily.`
`22:38.54`	`Whiskee`	`EU always get patches the day after`
`22:38.59`	`Helral`	`then why did my sc2 said there was a new patch XD`
`22:39.04`	`Whiskee`	`no idea :P`
`22:39.17`	`rrowland`	`I wish I had a bath tub so I could fill it full of ice`
`22:39.30`	`Helral`	`http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=26137154888&sid=5010 <-- I wasn't the only one on eu with the new patch message X)`
`22:39.45`	`Helral`	`16729438vjtbugny`
`22:39.45`	`Demonette`	`lol`
`22:39.48`	`Helral`	`roflol`
`22:39.51`	`Helral`	`wrong window XS`
`22:40.03`	`Demonette`	`16729438vjtbugny <-- won't work? ^^`
`22:40.08`	`rrowland`	`If that's your password then props for remembering it`
`22:40.18`	`Helral`	`I'm changing my pass right now.`
`22:40.32`	`Whiskee`	`maybe they are fixing eu publishing too! (yeah sure)`
`22:40.43`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Quick log in as Helral and change it before him!`
`22:40.51`	`rrowland`	`I could tell you the first 6-7 characters of my password and you'd still never get into my account`
`22:40.52`	`Helral`	`too late TLM.`
`22:40.55`	`Helral`	`already changed.`
`22:41.28`	`rrowland`	`I could actually probably tell you my full password and you'd still be unable due to authenticator`
`22:41.28`	`RedWraith`	`playing`
`22:41.37`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I love watching the idiots at my apartment`
`22:41.39`	`RedWraith`	`rrowland, your password is 17 digits long`
`22:41.41`	`RedWraith`	`:[`
`22:41.55`	`RedWraith`	`seventeen ampersands`
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`22:42.09`	`rrowland`	`It's 11 characters long`
`22:42.20`	`Helral`	`well that's the second time already I typed my password in the wrong window XD`
`22:42.28`	`*** topic/#sc2mapster by Sixen -> #sc2mapster http://sc2mapster.com/ \| Post Bugs/Errors/Feedback with GE in our forums! \| Post your Beta username: http://bit.ly/bbLD9Z \| Patch 18 Undocumented Editor Changes: http://bit.ly/a14NYa \| Creature Contest Votes: http://bit.ly/9t0WRv \| Idle in #MWE for MilkyWayEditor!`
`22:42.29`	`RedWraith`	`You are trying to log in using characters not recognized by the battle.net service.`
`22:42.30`	`RedWraith`	`weeee`
`22:42.30`	`Helral`	`at least it will make me change my password.`
`22:42.30`	`Sixen`	`I got into Battle.net btw`
`22:42.43`	`RedWraith`	`So, then, I could create a script than checks the combinations.... >_>`
`22:42.45`	`RoarMan`	`Bnet down?`
`22:42.45`	`Sixen`	`I'm on bnet with Patch 18`
`22:42.53`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Does the Blizzard Authenticator work with SC2?`
`22:42.56`	`Sixen`	`yes`
`22:42.56`	`RedWraith`	`4 characters 36^4 -> not bad`
`22:43.01`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Hmm`
`22:43.12`	`Helral`	`let's get the latest patch then... if it wants to get it that is...`
`22:43.23`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Where are the patch notes?`
`22:43.23`	`RedWraith`	`TheLaughingMan, I just started watching ghost in the shell. o_o`
`22:43.26`	`rrowland`	`Well since it's about 115 in this room my computer overheated watching a clip on youtube about an hour or so ago`
`22:43.28`	`TheLaughingMan`	`So?`
`22:43.32`	`rrowland`	`So I won't be playing sc2 any time soon`
`22:43.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmao`
`22:43.52`	`Helral`	`hmmm I just logged in using the old version on NA.`
`22:43.55`	`RedWraith`	`rrowland, where the hell do you live? palm springs? :P`
`22:43.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Do you have water or fan cooling?`
`22:44.00`	`TheLaughingMan`	`RedWraith, and I care why?`
`22:44.02`	`Whiskee`	`they did NOT patch the servers yet :)`
`22:44.06`	`rrowland`	`fan`
`22:44.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`ouch :(`
`22:44.15`	`rrowland`	`When I get money though`
`22:44.20`	`rrowland`	`And I've bought basically 2 new cars`
`22:44.24`	`rrowland`	`Since I need one and my gf needs one`
`22:44.36`	`rrowland`	`I'm going to make an oil submerged computer`
`22:44.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I don't have water either, but fans become bad in hot weather since they just suck in hotter air Xp`
`22:44.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`oil submerged :S`
`22:45.00`	`rrowland`	`Well the air is never hotter lol`
`22:45.05`	`RedWraith`	`TheLaughingMan, nevermind I guess...`
`22:45.06`	`Vulfe`	`Okay`
`22:45.08`	`rrowland`	`You're talking about shit operating at like 60C`
`22:45.08`	`Vulfe`	`I'm back`
`22:45.14`	`Vulfe`	`Is Rod here now?`
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`22:45.27`	`rrowland`	`If the air was 60C you'd be melting`
`22:45.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Do you not have any kind of AC in the building?`
`22:45.51`	`rrowland`	`Nope`
`22:46.10`	`rrowland`	`But yeah considering the air being blow into the computer is about 44C`
`22:46.17`	`rrowland`	`Which is lower than most computer's idle temperatures`
`22:46.18`	`rrowland`	`lol.`
`22:46.22`	`rrowland`	`er`
`22:46.23`	`rrowland`	`higher*`
`22:46.42`	`rrowland`	`Might as well be chilling on top of someone's CPU right now`
`22:47.47`	`rrowland`	`But yeah oil submerged is awesome`
`22:47.52`	`rrowland`	`Step 1) Make computer`
`22:47.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I've seen videos`
`22:47.56`	`rrowland`	`Step 2) fill with oil`
`22:48.01`	`Vailreth`	`well poo gas the patch download has stalled`
`22:48.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Only issue is upgrading that would be funky`
`22:48.05`	`rrowland`	`Step 3) Pump to radiator`
`22:48.20`	`rrowland`	`Well depending on how well the case is made`
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`22:48.33`	`rrowland`	`You can slide it up and out`
`22:48.40`	`rrowland`	`And let it air dry for like 10 minutes`
`22:48.44`	`ThunderLord`	`so we are not able to play SC2 for awhile?`
`22:48.51`	`Xapti`	`anyone know patch 18 changs?`
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`22:49.05`	`PoC`	`hello`
`22:49.12`	`rrowland`	`Right now my body feels like it's covered in sticky oil, mmmmm delicious humidity`
`22:49.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`ib`
`22:49.32`	`Xapti`	`think it would be easy for someone to develop a program that examines the data files`
`22:49.38`	`Xapti`	`look at the changes`
`22:49.46`	`PoC`	`I have a question, I'm following Bifuu's hero tutorial, and I'm at the part in the data editor when I'm modifying the unit Hero and it tells me to set the value for Stats - Flags, but that doesn't exist in this unit`
`22:49.57`	`ThunderLord`	`Is there a way to get the current attack target of a unit? like the target it's weapon if firing at`
`22:49.58`	`Xapti`	`like nicoli_s's map editor could have a feature like that`
`22:50.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`when did patch 17 come online`
`22:50.31`	`Magesblood`	`just me or is the new patch for sc2 not allowing people on?`
`22:50.37`	`Vulfe`	`Oh, Rod`
`22:50.42`	`Vulfe`	`Did you see what I said`
`22:50.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`ya`
`22:50.48`	`Vulfe`	`weird`
`22:50.49`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`22:50.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`so something about that ability dont like u`
`22:50.52`	`Vailreth`	`i had to exit and restart the patcher`
`22:50.56`	`Vulfe`	`yeah`
`22:50.58`	`Xapti`	`13th RodOfNOD`
`22:50.59`	`Iggyhopper`	`hey guys`
`22:50.59`	`Vulfe`	`the ability hates me`
`22:51.00`	`PoC`	`anyone?`
`22:51.01`	`Vailreth`	`to get it to download`
`22:51.09`	`Vulfe`	`even though the ability is basically a CC of another one`
`22:51.11`	`Vulfe`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:51.15`	`RodOfNOD`	`i played online yesterday`
`22:51.16`	`Iggyhopper`	`me to`
`22:51.23`	`Iggyhopper`	`it stalled at ~67%`
`22:51.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`is it 18 with no notes?`
`22:51.34`	`PoC`	`found it, moved to unit - flags`
`22:51.35`	`Vailreth`	`PoC what unit are you trying to make into a hero?`
`22:51.39`	`Vailreth`	`ah.`
`22:51.41`	`Xapti`	`18`
`22:51.47`	`Iggyhopper`	`whats the notes url? there is one`
`22:51.50`	`Xapti`	`no`
`22:52.04`	`Magesblood`	`so the new patch isnt allowed with battle.net right now or just me?`
`22:52.23`	`Magesblood`	`nvm works now wierd`
`22:52.27`	`Iggyhopper`	`anyone built a working uberlisk with force push yet?`
`22:52.37`	`Barter_`	`Iggyhopper: http://us.starcraft2.com/launcher/patch-notes.htm`
`22:52.52`	`Reactorex`	`Whaaaa`
`22:52.54`	`Reactorex`	`Patch 18?`
`22:52.58`	`Iggyhopper`	`k well thats still @17 so nothing new`
`22:53.04`	`Vulfe`	`the push is really easy`
`22:53.16`	`Iggyhopper`	`ApplyForce or something`
`22:53.23`	`Vulfe`	`Effect - Apply Force`
`22:53.24`	`Vulfe`	`yay!`
`22:53.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`if u put a bunch of zealots side by side in a circle it looks like they are all holding hands... how nice`
`22:53.38`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`22:53.42`	`Iggyhopper`	`but when i tried, all that happened was a little shove`
`22:53.54`	`Vulfe`	`you need to make a persistent and keep applying it`
`22:53.58`	`Iggyhopper`	`shi`
`22:53.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`i think its cool that units have mass`
`22:54.02`	`Iggyhopper`	`lol`
`22:54.10`	`Iggyhopper`	`Your mom has a nice mASS.`
`22:54.15`	`Vulfe`	`is there a field for mass?`
`22:54.18`	`Vulfe`	`in the editor`
`22:54.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`yep`
`22:54.24`	`Iggyhopper`	`I think so.`
`22:54.28`	`Vulfe`	`oh`
`22:54.29`	`Vulfe`	`there is`
`22:54.30`	`Vulfe`	`that's neat`
`22:54.30`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`22:54.35`	`Iggyhopper`	`rof`
`22:54.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`22:54.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`well`
`22:54.48`	`RodOfNOD`	`they would have a field for massive ass is Iggyhopper's mom was a unit`
`22:54.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`if you want to learn how to make cool stuff with applied force, vote for it on my tutorial poll`
`22:54.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I think it's currently the winning topic`
`22:55.13`	`Vulfe`	`wtf is this patchc`
`22:55.17`	`Vulfe`	`bullshittt`
`22:55.20`	`Iggyhopper`	`k proz`
`22:55.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`this is the ur fucked and we are erasing the hd of any sc2 stuff patch`
`22:55.53`	`Vulfe`	`I made a banshee that herds zerglings`
`22:56.00`	`Vulfe`	`and then slaughters then mercilessly with a wave of missiles`
`22:56.10`	`Reactorex`	`I want to learn how babies are made... or what the equilibrium in sc2 is for quantum physics dealing with photon blasters.. ooor...`
`22:56.27`	`Reactorex`	`.. we're no strangers to love.`
`22:56.30`	`Iggyhopper`	`So it would be Persistent Effect and then in the effect field it would be Effect - Apply Force?`
`22:56.46`	`Vulfe`	`no`
`22:56.50`	`Vulfe`	`you'd want to make a search effect`
`22:56.53`	`Vulfe`	`that applies a force`
`22:57.17`	`Vulfe`	`make sure the launch location for the force is either set for the target of the search or of the persistent`
`22:57.31`	`Vulfe`	`you'll need to make it do it several times, in order to work`
`22:57.39`	`Iggyhopper`	`k`
`22:57.42`	`Vulfe`	`so you have a periodic search that applies a force in a persistent`
`22:57.47`	`Vulfe`	`basically`
`22:57.51`	`Iggyhopper`	`i see now`
`22:58.10`	`Vulfe`	`to get a proper shockwave effect, you'll want some more stuff`
`22:58.15`	`Vulfe`	`but that's difficult to explain`
`22:58.47`	`Iggyhopper`	`id assume yeah`
`22:58.51`	`Iggyhopper`	`i am smrt gui`
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`22:59.10`	`Vulfe`	`i'm going to try at some point to make a whirlpool-type vortex`
`22:59.13`	`Vulfe`	`with effects`
`22:59.18`	`Vulfe`	`but it's going to be really annoying`
`22:59.18`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`22:59.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`eh`
`22:59.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`That's not quite right lol`
`22:59.42`	`Vulfe`	`what about it`
`22:59.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you don't need to do the search a bunch of times`
`22:59.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you do the persistent a bunch of times`
`23:00.03`	`Helral`	`meow`
`23:00.09`	`Vulfe`	`you can make a persistent do the force a bunch of times`
`23:00.11`	`Vulfe`	`what does it matter`
`23:00.11`	`slightlyrandom`	`Argh, I hate how a Wait inside a Pick Each Player messes everything up :S`
`23:00.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`one is laggier than the other`
`23:00.36`	`Vulfe`	`ah`
`23:00.38`	`Vulfe`	`really?`
`23:00.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Spam search on all units or search once and spam persistents on the units themselves`
`23:00.41`	`Vulfe`	`i'd think vice versa`
`23:00.44`	`Helral`	`random: why do you need a wait inside a pick each player?`
`23:00.52`	`slightlyrandom`	`Because I want it to do several things`
`23:00.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`One finds all units every time`
`23:00.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The other finds all units once`
`23:01.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and then hits those units with force repeatedly.`
`23:01.08`	`Vulfe`	`i c`
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`23:01.21`	`slightlyrandom`	`Like, Show Text, Remove Units, Wait, Play Sound, Wait, Show Defeat`
`23:01.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It's a minor detail, but if you have lots off effects with force goin' down it gets laggy`
`23:01.41`	`Vulfe`	`I hope someone makes a zergling etch-a-sketch`
`23:01.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`23:01.52`	`Helral`	`suggestion: pick each player do action --> self made action that uses it's own thread that does those things.`
`23:01.59`	`Vulfe`	`well, if you wanted to make it search for new units periodically`
`23:02.02`	`Vulfe`	`you'd need to do it the first way`
`23:02.18`	`slightlyrandom`	`Hm`
`23:02.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you're makin' something like a whirlwind, you might as well use buffs`
`23:02.25`	`slightlyrandom`	`I might have to look into that :P`
`23:02.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you're just pushing object X from A to B, use persistents`
`23:02.32`	`Vulfe`	`buffs for what`
`23:02.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the force`
`23:02.36`	`Helral`	`usually you use pick each to make things happen for them all at the same time....`
`23:02.43`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yeah, exactly`
`23:02.58`	`Vulfe`	`how would buffs be incorporated into that`
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`23:03.09`	`Helral`	`but what you just said random, was first the first player from the group, then the next one (wait delay of the first later)`
`23:03.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You'd have one apply force that sucks the units into the whirlwind`
`23:03.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You'd apply a buff to it`
`23:03.29`	`slightlyrandom`	`This is my problem, this is why I was about to make three Pick Each Player`
`23:03.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Then a second force swirls the units around in the whirlwind once they get in close`
`23:03.37`	`slightlyrandom`	`with the waits between em`
`23:03.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you apply that through a second buff`
`23:03.46`	`Helral`	`that is also possible.`
`23:03.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Using buffs will prevent both forces from actign at the same time.`
`23:03.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Using validators`
`23:03.51`	`Vulfe`	`the problem with force is that it doesn't go sideways`
`23:03.52`	`slightlyrandom`	`Looks hideous though`
`23:04.04`	`Vulfe`	`force is only on the radius between two things`
`23:04.09`	`Vulfe`	`so you'd need to make an offset persistent`
`23:04.12`	`Vulfe`	`to apply a force`
`23:04.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`For the swirling motion, yes`
`23:04.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I have a working whirlwind if you want to see what I mean.`
`23:04.40`	`Vulfe`	`what's wrong with pulling it both in and around?`
`23:04.41`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`23:04.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the unit would swirly oddly`
`23:05.06`	`Helral`	`anyways I'm off to bed XD`
`23:05.09`	`Vulfe`	`oh, really`
`23:05.16`	`Vulfe`	`you could just use one offset then`
`23:05.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Thinking logically, whirlwinds swirl something around an axis`
`23:05.22`	`Vulfe`	`so that it gets the right angle`
`23:05.34`	`Vulfe`	`I'm thinking of more of a vortex`
`23:05.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If both forces are being applied, the unit gets sucked in and spins around multiple axises before finally settling in the whirlwind`
`23:05.47`	`LordAbyss`	`i just played my brother heehe 29 carriers and 1 mothership`
`23:05.59`	`Vulfe`	`lol.`
`23:06.12`	`LordAbyss`	`played the 3v3 map`
`23:06.21`	`LordAbyss`	`so i moved my mothership behind his base`
`23:06.32`	`Vulfe`	`that doesn't leave much for workers`
`23:06.33`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`23:06.39`	`LordAbyss`	`barely 1 base`
`23:06.43`	`LordAbyss`	`i had like 10k of each resource`
`23:06.54`	`Vulfe`	`yah`
`23:07.09`	`Vulfe`	`Prozaic, my submenu button refuses to appear on the command card`
`23:07.14`	`Vulfe`	`and I have no idea why`
`23:07.24`	`Vulfe`	`RodofNOD and I had been working on it for some time`
`23:07.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`do you have it setup as an actual submenu button?`
`23:07.30`	`Vulfe`	`yes`
`23:07.30`	`Vulfe`	`ofc`
`23:07.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`do you actually have a second command card?`
`23:07.42`	`Vulfe`	`ofc`
`23:08.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`ss it for me`
`23:08.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`on yoru unit`
`23:08.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`your*`
`23:08.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the command card window, that is`
`23:09.31`	`Vulfe`	`lol.`
`23:09.33`	`Vulfe`	`let me find it`
`23:09.34`	`Vulfe`	`I did`
`23:09.40`	`Vulfe`	`let me explain something though`
`23:09.51`	`Vulfe`	`using the same button for submenu and changing the ability`
`23:09.55`	`Vulfe`	`to a default one`
`23:09.56`	`Vulfe`	`makes it work`
`23:10.10`	`Vulfe`	`but I don't want the default ability (obviously)`
`23:10.53`	`Vulfe`	`http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=28spv0p&s=3`
`23:10.57`	`Vulfe`	`http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=233eid&s=3`
`23:12.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok could someone confirm that im an idiot please... i cannot find dialog item position xy as a action... i KNOW it used to be there please look and tell me what its called`
`23:13.09`	`Vulfe`	`what action?`
`23:13.10`	`Vulfe`	`like`
`23:13.14`	`Vulfe`	`moving a dialog item?`
`23:13.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`ty i am an idiot`
`23:13.30`	`Barter_`	`set dialog item position isnt it`
`23:13.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`i knew it was tehre`
`23:13.48`	`Vulfe`	`what is it called`
`23:13.59`	`Vulfe`	`Move Dialog Item?`
`23:13.59`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`23:14.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:14.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes`
`23:14.08`	`Vulfe`	`wow`
`23:14.10`	`Vulfe`	`fail`
`23:14.10`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`23:14.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`no its move dialog item`
`23:14.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`thats my name`
`23:14.27`	`Vulfe`	`I know`
`23:14.34`	`Vulfe`	`It's fail that you missed it`
`23:15.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So you're saying that changing the button to default build button and changing the CC 2 ability to another ability makes it work?`
`23:15.58`	`RodOfNOD`	`its cus it should be`
`23:16.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`SET positon`
`23:16.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`like every other command they have`
`23:16.47`	`Vulfe`	`What I'm saying, Prozaic, is that changing the unit's ABILITY to a default one (Probe - Build for example) and then changing the button in the second part of the CC makes it work just fine`
`23:17.02`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Phew`
`23:17.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Add the ability to its ability list`
`23:17.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You only have Construct and not Construct Pylon`
`23:17.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Buttons only show for abilities that the unit has`
`23:17.38`	`Vulfe`	`Construct Pylon is a command for the Construct ability`
`23:17.41`	`Vulfe`	`I thought you knew things`
`23:17.49`	`Vulfe`	`Probe doesn't have an ability for everything that it does`
`23:17.49`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`23:17.55`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@c-76-126-227-99.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`23:18.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Does that ability actually have this ability as one of the actions in can do?`
`23:18.13`	`Vulfe`	`yep`
`23:18.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`have you confirmed this?`
`23:18.21`	`Vulfe`	`yes`
`23:18.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Then throw me your map`
`23:18.28`	`Vulfe`	`otherwise it wouldn't be a difficult problem to solve`
`23:18.29`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`23:18.33`	`Vulfe`	`ok`
`23:18.59`	`Vulfe`	`http://www.wikiupload.com/cSfTfO7y`
`23:19.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`ya proz he has`
`23:20.28`	`Vailreth`	`can any one esle succesfully test play a mod from out of the editor?`
`23:21.31`	`Vulfe`	`I can test maps, if that's what you mean`
`23:21.34`	`Vulfe`	`idk if anyone else is doing mods`
`23:22.03`	`Vailreth`	`it wont let me test either`
`23:22.09`	`Vulfe`	`weird`
`23:22.19`	`Vailreth`	`it the client loads most of the way then minimizes and crashes`
`23:24.01`	`Vulfe`	`I'm so jealous of people who just do terrain`
`23:24.05`	`Vulfe`	`that shit never randomly stops working`
`23:25.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`not true`
`23:25.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`just ask Mokse`
`23:25.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`L2 ramps aren't working for him`
`23:25.31`	`Vulfe`	`okay`
`23:25.31`	`Vulfe`	`fine`
`23:25.33`	`Vulfe`	`maybe it does`
`23:25.35`	`Vulfe`	`but not as much`
`23:25.44`	`Vulfe`	`:P`
`23:26.34`	`depthsofchaos`	`new patch`
`23:26.42`	`depthsofchaos`	`:/`
`23:27.17`	`Vulfe`	`yeah`
`23:27.18`	*** join/#sc2mapster Funkeh` (~funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh)
`23:27.35`	`Vulfe`	`find anything out yet, ProzaicMuze?`
`23:28.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Not yet, I'm in the middile of archiving something`
`23:28.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'll open your map after that`
`23:28.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`like 5mins`
`23:28.17`	`Vulfe`	`ah`
`23:28.18`	`Vulfe`	`that's fine`
`23:28.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`My work involves editing 4 GB+ folders of images and then (un)archiving them`
`23:28.48`	*** join/#sc2mapster Funkeh` (~funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh)
`23:28.53`	`rrowland`	`I thought ice cream would help me cool off`
`23:28.55`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I get to sit and watch colored bars fill up a lot :(`
`23:29.09`	`rrowland`	`30 seconds later I'm drinking warm chocolate soup`
`23:29.55`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`23:30.01`	`Vulfe`	`sounds awesome, Prozaic`
`23:30.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It pays well and I get to work from home. . . . nekkid if I want.`
`23:31.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Plus I can listen to whatever I want, watch movies while images are batch processing. . . or even make maps`
`23:31.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So it's a lesser evil compared to a boss I'd eventually criticize for suckign at his job and then getting fired.`
`23:31.28`	`ThunderLord`	`I have an Immortal unit, and i need to change the speed it can rotate its big cannon berral thingys that it needs to rotate when it finds a new target, how would i do that?`
`23:31.38`	`Vulfe`	`I supproze so`
`23:31.50`	`rrowland`	`Where do I sign up for that job?`
`23:31.52`	`Vulfe`	`This map is making me want to strangle someone`
`23:31.52`	`depthsofchaos`	`hmm it says new patch but ntohing downloads ?:o`
`23:31.55`	`MindWorX	`ugh`
`23:31.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Thunderlord - Turrets`
`23:32.06`	`MindWorX	`I see the tab flashing, indicating someone said my name`
`23:32.17`	`MindWorX	`But i forgot to add color highlight, so i can't find the line :P`
`23:32.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`23:32.42`	`ThunderLord`	`if i put in a rate of 0 will it give me Insta movement?`
`23:32.42`	`depthsofchaos`	`ctrl+f`
`23:32.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@rrowland - install you some Photoshop and then tell photographers you'll edit their images for them. They'll suddenly flock you with images and worship you (true story)`
`23:32.51`	`MindWorX	`ctrl+f in irc?`
`23:32.57`	`rrowland`	`I already has photoshops`
`23:32.58`	`rrowland`	`:o`
`23:33.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`shit ctrl f doesnt work in icechat`
`23:33.16`	`depthsofchaos`	`then look up the logs xD`
`23:33.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Then practice you some image color balancing and skin smoothing and you're good to go!`
`23:33.25`	`rrowland`	`Hmm`
`23:33.25`	`Vulfe`	`Cntrl F works for me`
`23:33.28`	`Vulfe`	`nobody said his name`
`23:33.28`	`rrowland`	`How much do you charge`
`23:33.29`	`Vulfe`	`PM?`
`23:33.31`	`MindWorX	`It seems like Helral tried to get a hold of me :P`
`23:33.35`	`rrowland`	`I'm already pretty decent at those`
`23:34.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Thunderlord - um, not sure. I'd need to look at the fields quickly before I could confirm/deny that lol`
`23:34.22`	`MindWorX	`Someone say my name!`
`23:34.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`retard`
`23:34.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I mean`
`23:34.40`	`Dustin`	`Mindy!`
`23:34.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`MindWorX`
`23:34.45`	`MindWorX	`Nice`
`23:34.46`	`MindWorX	`Works`
`23:34.52`	`MindWorX	`Also, i should add mindy`
`23:34.56`	`MindWorX	`Cause people call me that all the time`
`23:34.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`you setup highlights too?`
`23:35.05`	`rrowland`	`Also add dick`
`23:35.26`	`MindWorX	`rrowland, <3`
`23:35.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I have some 20ish entries for highlights given how badly people mispell my name :(`
`23:35.33`	`MindWorX	`lol`
`23:35.48`	`rrowland`	`porzaicemuse`
`23:36.00`	`MindWorX	I have MindWorX, `MindWorX(tho i dunno if that's nessecary) and Mindy now
`23:36.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`:-S`
`23:36.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`65weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee`
`23:36.24`	`MindWorX	`I used to have "Mind", but people use that word a lot more than you'd think`
`23:36.33`	`Vulfe`	`whoa`
`23:36.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I have PM`
`23:36.36`	`depthsofchaos`	`i i put in depth and you people always talk about adding depth to your stupid maps!!!`
`23:36.38`	`Vulfe`	`you just blew my mindworz`
`23:36.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I get pinged all the time :(`
`23:37.13`	`xyzzy`	`dear god`
`23:37.17`	`xyzzy`	`someone picked this name?`
`23:37.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`thats like unbelievable`
`23:37.32`	`MindWorX	`I do like those Psyborgs on the frontpage, it's cool to see you can piece together a cool model from other models`
`23:37.42`	`rrowland`	`Some guy on craigslist is trading offices ($200/mo) for a webpage`
`23:37.44`	`MindWorX	`Rod, people are using my nick everywhere now :(`
`23:37.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`i bet noone here even knows what xyzzy referrrs to`
`23:37.52`	`rrowland`	`If I had a car to get to my awesome new office I'd totally do that`
`23:37.55`	`MindWorX	`It used to be unique when i started using it 10 years ago`
`23:37.58`	`MindWorX	`But not anymore`
`23:38.05`	`depthsofchaos`	`bah i cant patch or log in to bnet`
`23:38.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Temple of Elemental Evil?`
`23:38.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`And isn't that spelled incorrectly?`
`23:38.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Xp`
`23:38.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I am not Peru!`
`23:38.38`	`Vailreth`	`beats his head on his desk`
`23:38.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Don't do that`
`23:38.46`	`Vulfe`	`whoa whoa`
`23:38.48`	`Vulfe`	`brain damage`
`23:38.48`	`Vulfe`	`is bad`
`23:38.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`perfectly good desk`
`23:38.53`	`depthsofchaos`	`beats his desk on his head`
`23:39.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`poor desks. . .`
`23:39.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`such random acts of violence against them. . .`
`23:39.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes a big waste of rather good wood on the desks`
`23:39.15`	`Vulfe`	`poor desks`
`23:39.20`	`Vulfe`	`people just let things sit on them all the time`
`23:39.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol Rod`
`23:39.26`	`Vailreth`	`i cant take this anymore ... WHY are two units popping out when i train 1`
`23:39.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Was xyzzy from ToEE?`
`23:39.55`	`depthsofchaos`	`Vailreth, siami twins?`
`23:40.02`	`depthsofchaos`	`dont stand in front of mother nature`
`23:40.04`	`Vulfe`	`siami?`
`23:40.05`	`Vulfe`	`lol.`
`23:40.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`miami!`
`23:40.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`vail cuz ur making them`
`23:40.20`	`depthsofchaos`	`isnt that spelled siami ?:p`
`23:40.22`	`Vulfe`	`welcome to miami`
`23:40.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Rod hates me :(`
`23:40.25`	`Vulfe`	`bienvenidos a miami`
`23:40.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I think I got the reference but now he ignores me`
`23:40.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`toee?`
`23:40.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Temple of Elemental evil`
`23:40.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`not that i know of`
`23:40.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`from a game in the 70s`
`23:40.53`	`Vailreth`	`i do not understand why this is happening`
`23:41.16`	`Vulfe`	`templo del mal elemental`
`23:41.19`	`Vulfe`	`sounds sexy in spanish`
`23:41.19`	`Vulfe`	`:P`
`23:41.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`from a text based game it was the magic word`
`23:41.26`	`depthsofchaos`	`conjoined twins = siami twins :p`
`23:41.31`	`Vulfe`	`siamese`
`23:41.37`	`Vulfe`	`siami?`
`23:41.38`	`Vulfe`	`wtf`
`23:41.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`but the joke continued into other text based games so if u used it sometimes it worked but most of the time the game laughed at u`
`23:41.45`	`depthsofchaos`	`whatever`
`23:41.46`	`Saeris`	`hmmmmmm`
`23:41.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Ooooh`
`23:41.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`that`
`23:41.55`	`ProzaicMuze`	`"Nothing Happens"`
`23:41.58`	`RodOfNOD`	`ya`
`23:41.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`:>`
`23:42.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`./xyzzy`
`23:42.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`ya`
`23:42.21`	`Saeris`	`someone tell me if this sounds right`
`23:42.33`	`rrowland`	`Here's my portfolio PM http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/2831/joliet.jpg`
`23:42.44`	`Saeris`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:42.44`	`Saeris`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:42.44`	`Saeris`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:42.44`	`Saeris`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:42.44`	`Saeris`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:42.44`	`Saeris`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:42.44`	`Saeris`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:42.45`	`Saeris`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:42.45`	`Saeris`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:42.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`rofl`
`23:42.46`	`Saeris`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:42.46`	`Saeris`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:43.03`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Saeris, paste it somewhere else`
`23:43.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Is that what you submitted to Blizzard?`
`23:43.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`Saeris dont do that please pastebin.com`
`23:43.25`	`Vulfe`	`rofl rrowland`
`23:43.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`"Look, I can make this hot woman even hotter"`
`23:43.32`	`Vulfe`	`pastebin.org`
`23:43.33`	`Vulfe`	`l2p`
`23:43.34`	`rrowland`	`;) ;)`
`23:43.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`.com`
`23:43.47`	`Saeris`	`yea sorry, what's done is done now`
`23:44.12`	`Vulfe`	`pastebin.com is a website`
`23:44.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Thunderlord - mmk, Rate is how fast it moves. So the higher it is, the faster it moves. 0 Would mean it can't move.`
`23:44.18`	`Vulfe`	`but not the right one`
`23:44.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`u are missing AND`
`23:44.22`	`rrowland`	`http://us.starcraft2.com/dominion/propaganda-contest.xml#inum=356&ap=30`
`23:44.27`	`Vulfe`	`pastebin.org is the right site`
`23:44.28`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`23:44.28`	`rrowland`	`That was what I submitted`
`23:44.41`	`Saeris`	`but, does that at least sound logical? i want to fill in the empty players with computers`
`23:45.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`either will work Vulfe :>`
`23:45.15`	`depthsofchaos`	`can anyone download the new patch ?`
`23:45.20`	`Vulfe`	`oh`
`23:45.22`	`Vulfe`	`right.`
`23:45.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol nice`
`23:45.26`	`Vulfe`	`most people use .org tho`
`23:45.28`	`Vulfe`	`at least`
`23:45.31`	`Vulfe`	`from what i've seen`
`23:45.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes it does but u need an AND`
`23:45.32`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`23:45.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`What is the reward for the contest anyways?`
`23:45.36`	`rrowland`	`I'm #1 on my page`
`23:45.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm too lazy to look it up`
`23:45.42`	`rrowland`	`With 88`
`23:45.45`	`rrowland`	`But then go look at page 1`
`23:45.51`	`rrowland`	`Some fucker has like 2000+ votes`
`23:45.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yeah, page 1 is gonna win`
`23:45.55`	`rrowland`	`Because he's page 1`
`23:46.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Too easy to just ignore all the other pages.`
`23:46.04`	`rrowland`	`Blizzard is so fucking stupid sometimes`
`23:46.05`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Who is gonna sift through all that?`
`23:46.32`	`rrowland`	`Not to mention voting was supposed to end 2 days ago`
`23:46.49`	`rrowland`	`I made the suggestion that the top 1-2 posters from each page should be taken`
`23:46.52`	`rrowland`	`And put onto a new page`
`23:46.54`	`rrowland`	`For round 2`
`23:46.57`	`rrowland`	`With no fuckups this time`
`23:46.57`	`Vulfe`	`that one on page one`
`23:47.00`	`Vulfe`	`isn't even good`
`23:47.08`	`rrowland`	`Yeah it's pretty bad photoshopping`
`23:47.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`everyone see this btw: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/starcraft-ii-manual/`
`23:47.15`	`rrowland`	`In fact`
`23:47.23`	`rrowland`	`There are posters on the SAME PAGE that are better`
`23:47.32`	`Dustin`	`Whats this Set Score Screen Fail BS`
`23:47.41`	`rrowland`	`Second place with 1600 is better`
`23:47.50`	`depthsofchaos`	`anything useful in the manual ?:p`
`23:47.51`	`rrowland`	`But then again it only has so many votes itself cause omg a hot girl!!!!`
`23:48.10`	`rrowland`	`Kerrigan's hot in her own evil way imo`
`23:48.21`	`depthsofchaos`	`i just like bugs`
`23:48.27`	`rrowland`	`Especially a kerrigan made from ANGELINA JOLIE`
`23:48.28`	`rrowland`	`Come on`
`23:49.22`	`rrowland`	`Okay so what do you charge PM`
`23:49.32`	`rrowland`	`I want to know how much to rip people off for this fairly easy service`
`23:49.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`one sec, phone`
`23:50.27`	`depthsofchaos`	`why would blizzard patch on 2 days before ending -.-`
`23:50.30`	`Vulfe`	`the drone propaganda on the last page is funy`
`23:50.42`	`Vulfe`	`funny*`
`23:50.43`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`23:50.44`	`depthsofchaos`	`if you dont give a shit at leats be consistent :p`
`23:50.49`	`Magesblood`	`Battle.net is dropping players then it wont load the score screen`
`23:50.58`	`Vulfe`	`I have to go for two weeks without starcraft`
`23:51.02`	`Vulfe`	`because I won't be at home when it arrives`
`23:51.04`	`Vulfe`	`...`
`23:51.06`	`Vulfe`	`: (`
`23:51.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Rod, what is that download?`
`23:51.20`	`Vulfe`	`it's the manual`
`23:51.21`	`Vulfe`	`for sc2`
`23:51.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@rrowland - I edit everything from school pictures to maternity pictures to senior portraits`
`23:51.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Right now I charge $0.30/image (raising price soon and I will raise the price every year)`
`23:52.01`	`ekcolnovkol`	`yo gaiz`
`23:52.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Then I add flat fees based on the images being edited`
`23:52.10`	`ekcolnovkol`	`anyone else getting dropped from every custom game?`
`23:52.15`	`Magesblood`	`yes`
`23:52.20`	`Magesblood`	`happening to everyone`
`23:52.22`	`Whiskee`	`someone is inside with patch 18`
`23:52.24`	`Whiskee`	`someone with patch 17`
`23:52.28`	`Whiskee`	`mix them and boom`
`23:52.29`	`rrowland`	`I bet I could get way more than that`
`23:52.29`	`depthsofchaos`	`i cant even patch the game`
`23:52.38`	`rrowland`	`Just gotta find stupid people`
`23:52.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Anywhere from $15-$32.50 flat fee. This fee depends on whether or not they have tons of acne and if they want "artistic" shots`
`23:52.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`This also goes up every year.`
`23:53.01`	`Vulfe`	`The license agreement for SC2 mapmaking`
`23:53.02`	`Vulfe`	`is really funny`
`23:53.05`	`rrowland`	`Yeah but say I find some model with a raw portfolio of 20 pictures`
`23:53.11`	`rrowland`	`Sure I'll make you a star for $100`
`23:53.14`	`rrowland`	`Bam $5 a picture`
`23:53.18`	`Dustin`	`Fuckin a`
`23:53.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`23:53.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You can charge what ever yeh want :)`
`23:53.41`	`Dustin`	`Anyone else get this Validation Error with setting Score Screens when you're trying to publish?`
`23:53.50`	`rrowland`	`So do you actually do that as a career or a side thing?`
`23:54.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I just started at a lower price so that I can develop a solid rep (people LOVE my work) and each year I raise the price. People happily pay more and continue to flood me with sessions because they're very satisfied.`
`23:54.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`ProzaicMuze thats the sc2 quickstart manual`
`23:54.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The irony is I get faster and faster at editing and get more and more.`
`23:54.21`	`Vailreth`	`ok im down two only two units still double producing`
`23:54.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Rod - From blizzard?`
`23:54.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`yep`
`23:54.37`	`ekcolnovkol`	`any official word from blizzard about these shennanigans?`
`23:54.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`its inside the 7gb file`
`23:54.40`	`rrowland`	`Well that's a good deal`
`23:54.45`	`rrowland`	`What state are you in`
`23:55.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@rrowland - I do multiple things for income. This is one of the things I do. You could say it's on the side, but I it makes abotu 40%ish of my income.`
`23:55.03`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Oregon`
`23:55.05`	`rrowland`	`Cause if I actually do it I'm gonna dominate all my competition`
`23:55.07`	`rrowland`	`Cool`
`23:55.09`	`rrowland`	`You're safe then`
`23:55.14`	`rrowland`	`:P`
`23:55.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I edit for people in Oregon, Washington and Utah`
`23:55.15`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`23:55.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`im in washington!`
`23:55.29`	`rrowland`	`Alright I'll take the other 47 states`
`23:55.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`edit for me now or die!`
`23:55.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmao`
`23:55.34`	`Vailreth`	`should i just make a second train ability?`
`23:55.51`	`rrowland`	`What else do you do`
`23:55.52`	`Vulfe`	`when does the game actually come out`
`23:55.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you're actually serious about editing, few things you MUST have`
`23:55.58`	`rrowland`	`Cause I'm a jack of all trades and I love working from home`
`23:56.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`i have that ProzaicMuze`
`23:56.08`	`RodOfNOD`	`and that`
`23:56.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`and oh yea that`
`23:56.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`well i DONT have that`
`23:56.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`but i can find that`
`23:56.23`	`Vulfe`	`Prozaic, did you get a chance to look at anything? It's totally cool if you didn't`
`23:56.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Adobe Camera Raw, Adobe Bridge/Light Room, WinRar, an FTP service and an online storage service.`
`23:56.24`	`*** join/#sc2mapster FOcast (~FOcast@174-25-137-13.ptld.qwest.net)`
`23:56.31`	`Vulfe`	`even though my terrain is really sexy`
`23:56.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Vulfe - I'm lookin' right now`
`23:56.40`	`Vulfe`	`coo coo`
`23:56.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`well i got winrar does that count?`
`23:56.47`	`rrowland`	`I've never even heard of camera raw or bridge/light room`
`23:56.53`	`rrowland`	`But winrar... That's going to be tough`
`23:57.11`	`Vulfe`	`Here's 500 bucks`
`23:57.14`	`Vulfe`	`happy birthday`
`23:57.18`	`Dustin`	`VALIDATION_WORKING_SET_SCORE_SCREEN_FAIL`
`23:57.19`	`Dustin`	`WTF`
`23:57.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@rrowland - I write music, teach chess to the local schools, sell collectible cards through eBay (currently in the process of downsizing and movign to my own site, they raised fees through the roof Xp)`
`23:57.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`And then do a wide variety of graphic design.`
`23:57.42`	`Vulfe`	`Lol`
`23:57.44`	`FOcast`	`Every time I try to join a map I get the error "No servers ar ecurrently available" anyone else getting that?`
`23:57.47`	`Vulfe`	`Prozaic is like...`
`23:57.50`	`rrowland`	`Teach chess to schools`
`23:57.52`	`rrowland`	`Wut`
`23:57.55`	`Vulfe`	`making a living on hobbies`
`23:57.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`$50/hr`
`23:57.56`	`Vulfe`	`basically`
`23:58.01`	`rrowland`	`What the hell`
`23:58.10`	`rrowland`	`You make more than a teacher who teaches something that isn't chess`
`23:58.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`23:58.30`	`Vulfe`	`he doesn't get government benefits`
`23:58.34`	`rrowland`	`Uh`
`23:58.37`	`depthsofchaos`	`i challange you to chesscraft :p`
`23:58.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It's because in middle school I was the 1st board for the high school team and in high school I was undefeated at the state level 3 years in a row.`
`23:58.38`	`Vulfe`	`but I think that's still significantly more than teachers make`
`23:58.40`	`Vulfe`	`regardless`
`23:58.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So my town kind things I'm a chess god`
`23:58.43`	`rrowland`	`For $50/hr I'll buy my own damn benefits`
`23:59.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`undefeated tilll u met me u mean`
`23:59.01`	`Vulfe`	`My best friend is state chess champion`
`23:59.03`	`Vulfe`	`high five`
`23:59.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It allows me to teach chess (I do a good job, mind you) to the schools.`
`23:59.06`	`rrowland`	`I used to be good at chess for my age`
`23:59.13`	`rrowland`	`Then I lost interest`
`23:59.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`23:59.17`	`rrowland`	`Now I suck`
`23:59.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Well I don't really play that much anymore since I've been too busy for tournaments, but I'm an excellent teacher in general`
`23:59.34`	`rrowland`	`As soon as I start the game I'm like`
`23:59.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`when i was in my prime ProzaicMuze i would have crushed u`
`23:59.43`	`rrowland`	`Which piece should I move first?`
`23:59.44`	`rrowland`	`I have no idea`
`23:59.46`	`rrowland`	`I quit`
`23:59.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So the kids learn and the schools start winning tournaments afterI teach them. So they throw more money at me.`
`23:59.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`of course u might have been 1 when i was in my prime so hehe`
`23:59.54`	`ekcolnovkol`	`hey, did patch 18 add anything to GE`
`23:59.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Works for me.,`

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