| 00:00.41 | ekcolnovkol | does changing the loading screen push your map back to the bottom? |
| 00:00.41 | rrowland | shitting all over yourself* |
| 00:00.41 | Sn0wbie | unit move action |
| 00:00.41 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 00:00.41 | Sn0wbie | ;O |
| 00:00.42 | ProzaicMuze | I think I just got raped @.@ |
| 00:00.42 | Sn0wbie | you got me |
| 00:00.42 | Sn0wbie | sorry bro i couldnt help it |
| 00:00.43 | Sn0wbie | .. |
| 00:00.43 | redmarine | Sn0wbie, can't find it |
| 00:00.43 | Sn0wbie | must be there man |
| 00:00.43 | Sn0wbie | i dont have editor open rite now |
| 00:00.43 | redmarine | I've used it before but damn, can't find it anymore |
| 00:00.44 | rrowland | You look around. There's a set of stairs to your east and an oak desk with a key on it to your south. |
| 00:00.48 | Sn0wbie | weird |
| 00:00.54 | ProzaicMuze | examine floor |
| 00:01.15 | rrowland | The floor is made of concrete. It looks like there was a hole here before, but now it's filled in with concrete. |
| 00:01.17 | Sn0wbie | you can use the key to scratch urself on the back |
| 00:01.21 | ProzaicMuze | doh |
| 00:01.21 | Sn0wbie | :? |
| 00:01.22 | ProzaicMuze | restore game |
| 00:01.35 | rrowland | lol I'm gonna have company pretty soon so I'm gonna go take a shower |
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| 00:01.48 | Sn0wbie | if it's a zerg company |
| 00:01.51 | ProzaicMuze | doh :( |
| 00:01.52 | Sn0wbie | u don't need to shower |
| 00:02.08 | rrowland | I just made that shit up as I went along anyway |
| 00:02.18 | rrowland | Not like I had a plan on how you could win |
| 00:02.23 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 00:02.23 | rrowland | hahaha. |
| 00:02.24 | ProzaicMuze | :( |
| 00:02.27 | redmarine | "Unit - Order (Picked unit) to ( Move targeting point) (Replace Existing Orders)" |
| 00:02.34 | redmarine | I guess that's the cloest thing I can get to |
| 00:03.09 | rrowland | That was funny. You guys got all serious. How do we win? |
| 00:03.19 | rrowland | I'm the DM! I do what I want! |
| 00:03.27 | rrowland | You roll a 1, you tripped on your foot and died! |
| 00:03.51 | ProzaicMuze | sadness |
| 00:04.05 | ProzaicMuze | 2hrs of my life stoled by your ebilness |
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| 00:04.18 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 00:04.49 | ProzaicMuze | this makes me want to go find a MUD and have you guys try to solve the MUD lol |
| 00:06.00 | Lilianna | SC2 MUD go |
| 00:06.04 | slightlyrandom | :D |
| 00:06.14 | Lilianna | make it a map with items, but you still have to type it in |
| 00:06.18 | ProzaicMuze | rofl |
| 00:06.19 | goomba_ | ~seen corbo |
| 00:06.41 | purl | corbo <~thecorbo@190.87.85.97> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 17h 38m 17s ago, saying: 'in irc'. |
| 00:07.00 | goomba_ | ~seen carloscuchilla |
| 00:07.01 | purl | carloscuchilla <~thecorbo@190.87.85.97> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 17h 34m 12s ago, saying: 'bai'. |
| 00:08.34 | RodOfNOD | anyone found a way to make a unit have no radius ie collision via trigger? |
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| 00:09.01 | goomba_ | replace with doodad |
| 00:09.02 | ProzaicMuze | Warrior, Cleric, Mage or Thief? GO |
| 00:09.05 | goomba_ | xD |
| 00:09.11 | goomba_ | totally mage |
| 00:09.31 | ProzaicMuze | bah this is a complex MUD |
| 00:09.33 | ProzaicMuze | stats and crap |
| 00:09.35 | ProzaicMuze | gimme simple! |
| 00:09.44 | RodOfNOD | ProzaicMuze what are u talking about? |
| 00:09.50 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 00:09.54 | ProzaicMuze | nothin' |
| 00:09.55 | ProzaicMuze | <.< |
| 00:09.55 | ProzaicMuze | >.> |
| 00:09.58 | RodOfNOD | im an old mud fan |
| 00:10.00 | RodOfNOD | thats why i ask |
| 00:10.56 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 00:11.02 | ProzaicMuze | I'm tryin' to find a simple MUD |
| 00:11.20 | ProzaicMuze | I'm toying with the idea of a SC2 MUD |
| 00:11.22 | RodOfNOD | there was an sc one awhile ago |
| 00:11.30 | RodOfNOD | well im gonna be making one myself ProzaicMuze |
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| 00:11.37 | RodOfNOD | already have storyline for 60 rooms |
| 00:11.37 | ProzaicMuze | you bettah! |
| 00:11.41 | ProzaicMuze | Make it supah awesome! |
| 00:11.46 | RodOfNOD | :> |
| 00:12.09 | RodOfNOD | its pretty cool cuz u can go into the barracks and "see" all this shit u never think about |
| 00:12.15 | RodOfNOD | then u can mine shit by being inside the scv |
| 00:12.15 | Arthas- | most muds are complex |
| 00:12.20 | RodOfNOD | or set it on auto pilot |
| 00:12.31 | Arthas- | what you are looking for is probably a text adventure game :p |
| 00:12.32 | ProzaicMuze | how teh shiz do I set invisibility |
| 00:12.41 | ProzaicMuze | Did they move it from the behavior buff modification field? |
| 00:13.03 | Arthas- | RodOfNOD any tips on a good active mud? |
| 00:13.04 | RodOfNOD | dammit there must be a way HOW do i make a unit have no collision |
| 00:13.16 | RodOfNOD | i havent played one in 2-3 years |
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| 00:13.52 | Arthas- | ah |
| 00:14.38 | ThunderLord | WEWT FINALLY MY FPS HAS A PLAYABLE VERSION PUBLISHED!!! |
| 00:15.54 | ThunderLord | it will be super phun thyme |
| 00:17.00 | heysparky | Also.,,, the MU in MUD stands for multi-user |
| 00:17.13 | heysparky | so if it's single player it's not a MUD |
| 00:17.29 | Arthas- | predecessor of mmorpg :p |
| 00:17.32 | heysparky | yes |
| 00:17.36 | Arthas- | SlothMud perhaps |
| 00:17.53 | Demonette | Mud's are cool =D |
| 00:17.57 | Arthas- | I was actually considering doing something mudish for SC2 |
| 00:18.13 | Arthas- | where the user gets a small cinematic or such when opening desk etc |
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| 00:18.32 | Alpha_vst | OMG the 2011 Material editor SUCKS!!!! |
| 00:18.34 | Arthas- | dont think that many would play it though |
| 00:18.45 | ThunderLord_ | woah my IRC tweaked out |
| 00:18.49 | ThunderLord_ | so yeah |
| 00:18.55 | ThunderLord_ | anyone wana run a test of my map? |
| 00:19.03 | Alpha_vst | nope |
| 00:19.06 | ThunderLord_ | super phun thyme and all that |
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| 00:19.08 | Alpha_vst | whew i found the old layout |
| 00:19.13 | ThunderLord_ | pretty plz |
| 00:19.14 | ThunderLord_ | lol |
| 00:19.16 | RoarMan | Can someone help my extract the Data .xml from my map D: |
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| 00:19.33 | RodOfNOD | sure |
| 00:19.34 | RodOfNOD | roar |
| 00:19.44 | RodOfNOD | what do u have for an mpq extractor? |
| 00:19.52 | RoarMan | Uh I got WinMPQ |
| 00:20.32 | ThunderLord_ | wha |
| 00:20.48 | ThunderLord_ | XD |
| 00:20.51 | RodOfNOD | ok well then its easy |
| 00:20.56 | RodOfNOD | whats the problem? |
| 00:21.06 | RoarMan | I opened up my map. |
| 00:21.10 | RodOfNOD | u open winmpq type in *.xml at the top and open the map |
| 00:21.33 | RoarMan | And it was all unknown files. |
| 00:21.33 | RoarMan | I'm a complete noob at this <.< |
| 00:22.48 | RoarMan | K I did that. |
| 00:22.48 | RoarMan | And it's just a blank page. |
| 00:22.54 | RodOfNOD | ok well then |
| 00:22.59 | RodOfNOD | ur not looking at ur own map are u |
| 00:23.11 | RoarMan | .SC2MAP |
| 00:23.14 | RodOfNOD | ur tryin to hack another map i bet |
| 00:23.20 | RoarMan | No it's my map... |
| 00:23.26 | RodOfNOD | did u protect it? |
| 00:23.29 | Arthas- | brb |
| 00:23.32 | RoarMan | Nope, never published |
| 00:23.38 | RodOfNOD | then u should everything |
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| 00:23.59 | RodOfNOD | what version of winmpq u using look under the about? |
| 00:24.10 | RoarMan | 1.64 |
| 00:24.18 | RodOfNOD | k i have 1.66 might make a diff but for now |
| 00:24.20 | RodOfNOD | go into editor |
| 00:24.25 | RodOfNOD | make a brand new map |
| 00:24.26 | RodOfNOD | save |
| 00:24.32 | RodOfNOD | and then try opening witn winmpq |
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| 00:24.39 | RoarMan | Kk |
| 00:25.45 | RoarMan | Yea RodOfNOD it's all unknown files again. |
| 00:25.49 | RoarMan | I'll try getting 1.66 |
| 00:26.00 | Glynn | dll file missing, maybe? |
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| 00:26.11 | RoarMan | I installed VB 4.0 runtimes. |
| 00:26.12 | ThunderLord_ | Anyone Wana take a few min to test this map, it is a third person shooter with Immortals |
| 00:26.19 | RoarMan | I'll try a newer verson of that too Glynn :P |
| 00:27.46 | ThunderLord_ | Dang, nobodie huh? ill ask again later i guess lol |
| 00:27.58 | RodOfNOD | well the only thing i can think of roar |
| 00:28.02 | RodOfNOD | is that i have listfiles |
| 00:28.06 | RodOfNOD | let me see if im using those |
| 00:29.18 | RoarMan | ThunderLord_ ILL HALP! |
| 00:29.24 | ThunderLord_ | OWAHAWer |
| 00:29.27 | ThunderLord_ | YOU RULE! |
| 00:29.28 | RoarMan | :D |
| 00:29.29 | RoarMan | Np |
| 00:29.30 | ThunderLord_ | UR A BHOSS! |
| 00:29.34 | ThunderLord_ | BHOSSSS! |
| 00:29.37 | RoarMan | Hold on a sec let me do this XML tihngee. |
| 00:29.38 | ThunderLord_ | whats ur beta info? |
| 00:29.41 | ThunderLord_ | Cool |
| 00:29.43 | ThunderLord_ | i can wait |
| 00:29.45 | RoarMan | RoarMan.699 |
| 00:29.51 | RoarMan | Wait let me check again |
| 00:29.54 | RoarMan | Damn Friend Codes on Bnet... |
| 00:30.24 | Glynn | another way to do it, open your map in the editor, then go to file - save as... and save your file as a .sc2Components instead of .sc2map |
| 00:30.29 | RoarMan | RodOfNOD I was missing Runpak DL's. |
| 00:30.36 | RoarMan | Glynn I got it to work was missing Dll's :P |
| 00:30.37 | Glynn | that saves as a folder rather than a file |
| 00:30.42 | Glynn | kk |
| 00:30.43 | RoarMan | Err ddl's |
| 00:30.50 | RoarMan | OR W.E THERE CALLDE IM THE BOSS I FIXED THE PROBLEM RARW |
| 00:30.56 | RodOfNOD | cool |
| 00:30.58 | RoarMan | :D |
| 00:31.02 | RoarMan | ThunderLord_ whats your info? |
| 00:31.35 | RodOfNOD | now if u someone could tell me how to give a unit no collision ie no radius id be really happy |
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| 00:32.34 | Thunder | There goes my IRC again freaking out |
| 00:32.38 | RoarMan | RodOfNOD couldn't you do that with a Buff? |
| 00:32.48 | RoarMan | Thunder was'yo info. |
| 00:32.56 | Guest11807 | what |
| 00:32.56 | Guest11807 | new name |
| 00:32.59 | Guest11807 | i hate this work computer /= |
| 00:33.07 | Guest11807 | ugh, what the heck |
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| 00:33.38 | RoarMan | THUNDERLORD WTF |
| 00:33.45 | ThunderLord | there we go |
| 00:33.48 | ThunderLord | what? |
| 00:33.52 | RoarMan | RoarMan.996 |
| 00:33.52 | ThunderLord | what? |
| 00:33.57 | ThunderLord | oh 996 |
| 00:33.58 | RoarMan | Let's do it up. |
| 00:34.03 | RoarMan | Yea I said it wrong :P |
| 00:36.17 | heysparky | later folkses |
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| 00:39.13 | Muffin_ | gbmdf |
| 00:39.41 | RodOfNOD | exactly |
| 00:40.19 | Muffin_ | rely? |
| 00:42.10 | ThunderLord | UGH |
| 00:42.12 | ThunderLord | BLIZZARD |
| 00:43.35 | RoarMan | That's a shaem :/ |
| 00:43.59 | ThunderLord | there has got to be somthing i can do |
| 00:44.07 | ThunderLord | i will find somthing out |
| 00:44.23 | ThunderLord | maybe it is just a beta thing? |
| 00:44.44 | ThunderLord | ugh |
| 00:45.04 | RoarMan | ThunderLord I think it is, Blizzard said they wanted Key Press to be viable. |
| 00:45.31 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 00:45.33 | ThunderLord | i wanted to be famous when SCII came out |
| 00:45.36 | ThunderLord | cool |
| 00:45.52 | ThunderLord | too bad |
| 00:45.59 | ThunderLord | well im going to go home from work now and see what i can do |
| 00:46.07 | ThunderLord | well going to head home then hit that new map button |
| 00:46.22 | ThunderLord | talk to you guys in a bit |
| 00:46.27 | ThunderLord | ill help test ur maps if you need me to |
| 00:46.55 | ThunderLord | thanks again roar |
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| 00:46.59 | RedWraith | woot |
| 00:47.06 | RedWraith | made my anti-force field missile ;D |
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| 00:50.48 | P_R_Deltoid | LordAbyss, did you messagfe me on bnet? |
| 00:50.54 | P_R_Deltoid | It just says you went offline, but I have achat messager from you |
| 00:51.27 | LordAbyss | not that i know of |
| 00:51.31 | LordAbyss | my bnet name is tyrannical |
| 00:51.35 | P_R_Deltoid | Indeed it is |
| 00:51.37 | P_R_Deltoid | oh well |
| 00:51.40 | P_R_Deltoid | maybe I had a window open |
| 00:51.46 | LordAbyss | did it say anything? |
| 00:51.53 | P_R_Deltoid | said you disconnected 26 minutes ago. |
| 00:51.59 | LordAbyss | ok |
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| 00:59.56 | Alpha_vst | does the exporter not work for animations any more? |
| 01:02.47 | Alpha_vst | SIGH |
| 01:02.52 | nicoli_s | it should |
| 01:03.29 | Alpha_vst | i imported a marine changed teh texture and exported it |
| 01:03.44 | Alpha_vst | if i dont check the animations it works if i do it wont |
| 01:04.00 | nicoli_s | weird |
| 01:04.08 | nicoli_s | too bad nintoxicated doesnt come on irc |
| 01:05.07 | LordAbyss | so proz, you still being that super slacker and making those fancy tutorials about stuff that i would not know what to do if you didn't? |
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| 01:05.35 | ProzaicMuze | nope |
| 01:05.37 | ProzaicMuze | already finished |
| 01:05.53 | ProzaicMuze | I'm gonna go take a shower since it's super hot and let me comp coold down while I eat some food lol |
| 01:06.04 | LordAbyss | food is for slackers |
| 01:06.11 | ProzaicMuze | I'm definitely a slacker ;) |
| 01:06.12 | LordAbyss | ;) |
| 01:06.34 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4656-data-working-with-actors-beginner-difficulty/#p6 |
| 01:06.38 | ProzaicMuze | For your viewing pleasure |
| 01:06.43 | ProzaicMuze | afk for a bit |
| 01:07.45 | dukka | ughh that took way to long for a simple dialog menu setup |
| 01:09.47 | RedWraith | So, I think I know why |
| 01:09.49 | RedWraith | the data editor |
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| 01:09.56 | RedWraith | is so much more difficult to learn than the trigger editor |
| 01:10.10 | RedWraith | It's because it's structured for people who know what they want/how to do something a priori. |
| 01:10.37 | RedWraith | because each time you discover you need a new thing, you need to go to its section and create it, then go back and link it :P |
| 01:11.42 | RedWraith | That, and it stores data you want mixed in with data you do not want, making browsing through it along the same lines of using ctrl+f to browse through dozens of extremely long triggers that you've only slightly modified. |
| 01:12.35 | RedWraith | Its only 'wizard' being for duplication, which means you still need to know a lot in order to make something from scratch. |
| 01:13.20 | RedWraith | That is, it's designed to deal with pre-made types, but it floods your screen with information you're not using and doesn't give you any pre-made types except for the ability to duplicate currently existing units. |
| 01:13.21 | RedWraith | :P |
| 01:13.40 | RedWraith | That, and even within units, you have to browse through huge numbers of options in order to add things. |
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| 01:14.34 | RedWraith | It's like...instead of giving people an easy way to set up general 'types' we'll just give them access to huge amounts of info and let them figure it out. :P |
| 01:14.42 | RedWraith | slash rant |
| 01:15.16 | onetwo | lol on my new cinematic, a comment: "Over used slow-mo but it's an awesome cinematic. Also I think I played against you yesterday, lol. " |
| 01:15.24 | onetwo | i played one matchmaked game yesterday |
| 01:15.30 | onetwo | one out of entire phase 2 |
| 01:15.33 | onetwo | and the guy somehow |
| 01:15.35 | onetwo | posted on my video |
| 01:15.39 | onetwo | it was him |
| 01:15.46 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 01:15.46 | dukka | day 0 patch notes: data editor has been reworked to be less 'uggggggggggggggggghhhh' |
| 01:15.56 | Alpha_vst | yeah right |
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| 01:16.22 | onetwo | the guy i was saying i beat cause he massed zerglings |
| 01:16.34 | onetwo | and i took out his main hatch with a void ray and 3 phoenix |
| 01:16.49 | onetwo | "g" on queen 3 times |
| 01:16.51 | onetwo | gg |
| 01:17.32 | onetwo | small world i guess |
| 01:18.08 | dukka | i smashed some maruder medivac player yesterday with a bunch of banelings and mutas |
| 01:18.13 | dukka | unload and he would die |
| 01:18.18 | dukka | stay in the transports and he would die |
| 01:18.23 | RedWraith | My opinion on the data editor in a nutshell: make an editing wizard that follows like installation instructions in addition to the current system, i.e. what kind of ability is this? what kind of effect would you like it to have? missile/non missile? etc. working step by step until an ability/unit/hero/item/etc. is made. |
| 01:18.38 | onetwo | thats too good |
| 01:18.49 | onetwo | "where would you like" -> "I want it to be at the origin" |
| 01:18.50 | RedWraith | No searching, no obnoxious bullshit. Just straightforward one thing at a time. |
| 01:18.51 | onetwo | thats too good |
| 01:18.52 | onetwo | wont happen |
| 01:18.54 | dukka | lets hope someone really nice can make a 3rd party app |
| 01:19.12 | dukka | likelyhood of such though: laughable |
| 01:19.13 | RoarMan | Let's. |
| 01:19.13 | RedWraith | If I knew how to make apps that interact with the galaxy editor, I would do it. -- |
| 01:19.31 | dukka | even if it just output the .xml data |
| 01:19.33 | RedWraith | i.e. it opens as part of the editor |
| 01:19.35 | dukka | that could be integrated |
| 01:19.40 | dukka | imported |
| 01:19.40 | dukka | w/e |
| 01:19.46 | RedWraith | I don't like importing. >_> |
| 01:19.53 | onetwo | we'll look back on these days of mapping |
| 01:19.54 | onetwo | and laugh |
| 01:19.55 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:20.03 | RedWraith | okay, you know what |
| 01:20.09 | RedWraith | I'm going to go start a thread on the official forums |
| 01:20.12 | RedWraith | with my reccomendation |
| 01:20.12 | RedWraith | :P |
| 01:20.13 | onetwo | map dev? |
| 01:20.18 | RedWraith | yup |
| 01:20.20 | onetwo | ill reply |
| 01:20.29 | onetwo | let me know when its up |
| 01:20.31 | onetwo | beep me |
| 01:20.40 | onetwo | 2 sexual refernces there fyi |
| 01:21.00 | onetwo | no one? |
| 01:21.02 | dukka | stay classy |
| 01:21.03 | dukka | babe |
| 01:21.04 | onetwo | oh come on those were brilliant |
| 01:22.30 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:22.32 | Alpha_vst | not really |
| 01:22.35 | Alpha_vst | you sucks |
| 01:23.07 | onetwo | its multilayered and functions for both sexual and irc related meanings |
| 01:23.08 | onetwo | perfectly |
| 01:23.19 | onetwo | i give you guys gold |
| 01:23.21 | onetwo | and i get squat |
| 01:23.34 | onetwo | gets a drink |
| 01:23.47 | onetwo | of coca-cola zero. TRY SOME |
| 01:23.59 | onetwo | yeah coca cola is sponsoring me now |
| 01:24.07 | onetwo | they liked my monotonous editor tutorials |
| 01:24.17 | RoarMan | LOl |
| 01:24.18 | RoarMan | OneTwo is balling. |
| 01:24.28 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:24.31 | RoarMan | :D |
| 01:24.53 | RoarMan | Damnit trying to fix my map is time consumign :/ |
| 01:24.58 | onetwo | :( |
| 01:25.16 | slightlyrandom | hah, same |
| 01:25.16 | Triceron | Dragon Quest 9 |
| 01:25.18 | RoarMan | The Data Editor is really tedious <.< |
| 01:25.20 | Triceron | pretty fun oldschool RPG |
| 01:25.28 | slightlyrandom | Struggling with understanding what the hell I did to make it work in the first place :D |
| 01:25.45 | RoarMan | Slightlyrandom me too rofl. |
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| 01:26.04 | egodbout | any one figure out how to detect inventory item in container/slot with patch ? |
| 01:26.23 | onetwo | picked up? |
| 01:26.26 | onetwo | or just in there at all? |
| 01:26.42 | onetwo | i pretty much have every item trigger covered |
| 01:27.00 | onetwo | i have a quest where if you run in range of NPC and youre carrying a certain item type that he asked you to get, itll remove it from you |
| 01:27.05 | onetwo | is that relevant to you? |
| 01:27.12 | RoarMan | OneTwo know but do want. |
| 01:27.14 | RoarMan | No* |
| 01:27.18 | RoarMan | :DD |
| 01:27.30 | RoarMan | Nah but do want someone to fix all me data D: |
| 01:27.40 | egodbout | not really, that is easy, you make a loop and it run each slot, i want aq specific slot item, like ( gun place) |
| 01:27.41 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:27.46 | onetwo | oh |
| 01:27.50 | onetwo | youre smarter than i thought |
| 01:27.51 | onetwo | i see |
| 01:27.53 | onetwo | hmm |
| 01:28.09 | onetwo | well |
| 01:28.13 | onetwo | you need to figure out yourself |
| 01:28.14 | onetwo | the order |
| 01:28.19 | goomba_ | uhn tiss uhn tiss uhn tiss |
| 01:28.21 | Barter | when you check for an item you specify the slot |
| 01:28.34 | onetwo | like if you have weapon/armor/helm container and then one container with 20 MISC spots |
| 01:28.52 | onetwo | i think you have to remember |
| 01:29.01 | onetwo | the rows/cols perhaps |
| 01:29.02 | onetwo | when you made it |
| 01:29.03 | onetwo | not sure |
| 01:29.05 | egodbout | yeah but, how you know this specific slot is slot 1 |
| 01:29.05 | onetwo | let me see |
| 01:29.10 | onetwo | well youd have to test |
| 01:29.11 | onetwo | i guess? |
| 01:29.17 | goomba_ | oink oink zoo pals |
| 01:29.20 | onetwo | maybe in the order its added to your inventory abil |
| 01:29.28 | Barter | its the order |
| 01:29.36 | Barter | each one has an index |
| 01:29.41 | onetwo | ah |
| 01:29.42 | onetwo | there you go |
| 01:29.50 | onetwo | and if you have 3 bags |
| 01:29.59 | onetwo | itl lbe in order that the bag is added to inventory abil? |
| 01:30.04 | onetwo | so 3 bags x 5 slots each |
| 01:30.08 | Barter | no idea :P |
| 01:30.09 | onetwo | slot 6 returned would be bag 2's slot 1? |
| 01:30.11 | Barter | I guess |
| 01:30.14 | onetwo | out of 15 |
| 01:30.17 | onetwo | total slots |
| 01:30.21 | slightlyrandom | sluts* |
| 01:30.25 | onetwo | sluits* |
| 01:30.54 | egodbout | did you test what you said barter? cause i tryed lot of order from patch and cant detect item |
| 01:31.32 | onetwo | :/ |
| 01:31.42 | Barter | not really :| |
| 01:31.47 | egodbout | meh |
| 01:31.47 | onetwo | thats more disturbing than the time i got lost trying to find muhammed |
| 01:31.52 | onetwo | *cuts away to mohammed picture* |
| 01:31.55 | onetwo | spelling sucks fyi |
| 01:32.03 | Barter | lemme test |
| 01:33.01 | egodbout | you have a rocked launcher in this (slot), sets this (variable = 1), look simple, but its a pain |
| 01:33.04 | RoarMan | Guys I'm having a slight problem can someone help me? |
| 01:33.34 | RoarMan | It's actor trouble :P |
| 01:35.01 | egodbout | blizz just add tons of inventory events, but i think no one is working -_- |
| 01:35.55 | onetwo | it worked for me to detect when an item was picked up |
| 01:36.09 | egodbout | yeah, i did that to |
| 01:36.13 | egodbout | thing is |
| 01:36.25 | egodbout | when the item is *equiped* in a slot |
| 01:36.32 | onetwo | ah |
| 01:36.48 | egodbout | that hardcore actuely |
| 01:36.55 | Sixen | orly? |
| 01:37.11 | Alpha_vst | god |
| 01:37.31 | onetwo | maybe you can check its equipped |
| 01:37.37 | Alpha_vst | im going to not release my map on bnet 0.o\ |
| 01:37.45 | onetwo | by comparing |
| 01:37.48 | onetwo | weapon |
| 01:37.57 | onetwo | wait |
| 01:38.00 | onetwo | youd sitll have to know the slot |
| 01:38.06 | egodbout | item manipulating yeah, its new from patch, but like |
| 01:38.07 | onetwo | well i guess , guess and test with small inventory numbers |
| 01:38.18 | egodbout | it seem to not work well |
| 01:38.32 | slightlyrandom | ugh |
| 01:40.05 | Barter | hmm yeah dunno about the indexes, testing here but its acting weird |
| 01:40.43 | egodbout | play with item manipulating |
| 01:40.50 | egodbout | if you find something with that |
| 01:41.01 | egodbout | i trying right now, cant detect anything |
| 01:41.34 | onetwo | heres a backup for you |
| 01:41.38 | onetwo | make the equipped item also give a buff |
| 01:41.41 | onetwo | hidden one |
| 01:41.44 | onetwo | then check if hero has buff |
| 01:41.57 | egodbout | that a good idea your right |
| 01:41.59 | onetwo | so only if its equipped |
| 01:42.03 | onetwo | its a workaround for now |
| 01:42.30 | egodbout | well no cause |
| 01:42.52 | egodbout | if the item is in a bag...buff will work, and the item have to be in a specific slot |
| 01:43.09 | onetwo | what i love about the system compared to war3, is that spells can do melee/ranged/spell/splash damage, rather than some untouchable damage like war3 had. so now items can have + spell dmg to affect hero spells |
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| 01:43.19 | onetwo | uh if the item is in a bag |
| 01:43.22 | onetwo | it wont give the buff |
| 01:43.25 | onetwo | unless that bag is set to equip |
| 01:43.35 | egodbout | hm |
| 01:43.38 | onetwo | you need to make sure you put the buff in the items "Equip Behaviors" |
| 01:43.39 | onetwo | field |
| 01:43.49 | P_R_Deltoid | anyone know of any actual wc3 conversion projects? |
| 01:43.56 | P_R_Deltoid | like straight conversion |
| 01:44.01 | egodbout | let me chekc that onetwo |
| 01:44.25 | onetwo | my Weak Staff gives +1 wisdom buff egodbout |
| 01:44.33 | onetwo | made a behavior buff |
| 01:44.40 | onetwo | and gave it to the item's equip behaviors |
| 01:44.44 | onetwo | only applies when its in equip slot |
| 01:44.48 | onetwo | ive tested that for sure |
| 01:44.53 | Barter | oh egodbout |
| 01:45.07 | Barter | the Item carried by unit in slot trigger |
| 01:45.20 | Barter | its not the index |
| 01:45.35 | Barter | its like number 3 is the third picked item |
| 01:45.59 | egodbout | hm |
| 01:46.07 | Barter | kinda useless for what you wanted |
| 01:46.30 | egodbout | so like, it detect the item you just grab right? |
| 01:46.46 | Barter | well |
| 01:46.47 | slightlyrandom | oops |
| 01:46.52 | slightlyrandom | I turned everything into a Thor |
| 01:46.53 | Barter | if you have 3 items already |
| 01:47.02 | Barter | and you pick another one, that one will be number 4 |
| 01:47.19 | egodbout | k and if you drop number 3 on gruond? |
| 01:47.25 | Barter | better use behaviours like onetwo said |
| 01:47.31 | egodbout | yeah |
| 01:47.34 | egodbout | i guess |
| 01:47.51 | Barter | the 4 becomes 3 |
| 01:48.10 | egodbout | it suck cause, blizz just add tons of event items and i cant figure out how they work |
| 01:49.11 | egodbout | the buff gonna work actuelly |
| 01:49.15 | egodbout | thx for tips |
| 01:49.52 | onetwo | np |
| 01:50.47 | egodbout | Diablo map need a good item system or the game suck :-| |
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| 01:52.34 | goomba_ | there is no cow level |
| 01:53.20 | egodbout | your right, i didnt plan a cow level :-| |
| 01:53.40 | goomba_ | there is no spoone |
| 01:53.46 | slightlyrandom | What the hell, I have absolutely no motivation to remake stuff that used to work :S |
| 01:53.52 | onetwo | i did |
| 01:53.57 | egodbout | haha i did today |
| 01:54.06 | egodbout | fixed all dialog |
| 01:54.33 | slightlyrandom | It's quite silly, because obviously I need to fix this if I want to add new stuff |
| 01:54.38 | slightlyrandom | But I just can't be arsed |
| 01:54.48 | allenmelon | what programming language is galaxy most like? |
| 01:54.57 | goomba_ | galaxy |
| 01:55.00 | slightlyrandom | Debugging stuff in the data editor is fucking horrendous, I guess that's part of it |
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| 01:56.49 | egodbout | i hope blizz will made a map with a working hero/inventory/skill/xp so we can all copy him perfectly |
| 01:58.56 | Barter | xp and skill is not that hard, xp sharing is now working perfectly unlike before |
| 02:00.10 | Barter | and you now set the stats bonus at each level instead of the stat you want to have at that level |
| 02:00.12 | egodbout | will be honest, i have only done a working UI bar XP, not the killing monster xp and split hero thing :P |
| 02:01.05 | onetwo | yeah agreed |
| 02:01.08 | onetwo | i dont have split xp thing either |
| 02:01.09 | Barter | you just have to set on the unit the kill experience |
| 02:01.12 | onetwo | i guess im fine wit hthat for now though |
| 02:01.23 | Barter | to share you just set it on the behaviour |
| 02:01.27 | onetwo | afk |
| 02:01.38 | Barter | shared fraction to 1 to share all of the exp |
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| 02:02.50 | Barter | so it shares equally to everyone in range |
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| 02:04.31 | Barter | it used to be bugged so that you would share the exp you got from someone else sharing exp with you, but they fixed that |
| 02:05.28 | egodbout | dont know, my next step is to find a way to add Prefix/Suffit Item stats randomly |
| 02:05.48 | egodbout | Rocket Lancher of the whale |
| 02:06.02 | egodbout | got the day off tomorrow for this |
| 02:06.15 | Barter | hmm, thats gonna be hard :P |
| 02:06.23 | egodbout | yep |
| 02:06.35 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tau-cross/. Tau Cross. FlopTurnReaver (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 02:06.40 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/emerald-lagoon/. Emerald Lagoon. ExecutorSebulon (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 02:06.51 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/mech-wars/. Mech Wars. Barterr (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Bifuu. |
| 02:07.35 | egodbout | last week i did a very nice ALT flooting text like when you play Diablo |
| 02:07.44 | egodbout | it wroking perfectly and look awnsome |
| 02:08.08 | Barter | cool |
| 02:08.52 | RodOfNOD | im a bit concerned really i am.... the supply depot appears to have sparks coming out of it.... now i dont want to alarm anyone but there is fucking explosives there u newb! |
| 02:09.39 | egodbout | your right barter, it just pop on my screen, i pick a item in slot 1 and i got a text message, it actuelly work |
| 02:10.52 | egodbout | maybe if i find the slot number i need i can do something with that instant of a buff |
| 02:12.38 | onetwo | egodbout |
| 02:12.44 | onetwo | hwod you make the alt thing |
| 02:12.48 | onetwo | right now i just have tooltips for mousing over |
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| 02:13.11 | egodbout | its like |
| 02:13.14 | onetwo | Barter, by fixed shared exp do you mean if i set shared fraction to 1, 5 players with heroes in range will each get 20%? |
| 02:13.24 | Barter | yeah |
| 02:14.11 | Barter | was not like that before but I guess they fixed on 16 |
| 02:14.31 | egodbout | a item drop on ground, you add this item in a unit ground and when you hold alt key, you make a loop and you pick eveyritem in this unit group, show a flooting text on each posiiton of each item and gg |
| 02:15.10 | onetwo | oh so youre not doing a bnet map? |
| 02:15.16 | onetwo | and thanks Barter, thats good to know |
| 02:15.35 | Barter | np |
| 02:16.22 | onetwo | well anyways gotta brb |
| 02:16.23 | onetwo | afk |
| 02:17.46 | egodbout | the editor have a limit of 8190 item on ground |
| 02:17.52 | egodbout | something near that |
| 02:18.30 | Bifuu | Every item on the map? im sure yo could come up with a system that does every item in view |
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| 02:18.53 | egodbout | probbalty, im not a pro |
| 02:19.03 | Barter | is the map multiplayer? |
| 02:19.25 | egodbout | i make tristram RPG , ya its multi |
| 02:19.30 | Reactorex | Ohhi onetwo. |
| 02:19.31 | Reactorex | :D |
| 02:19.48 | Barter | wont it show the text for everyone when someone holds alt? |
| 02:20.39 | egodbout | er no |
| 02:20.47 | Reactorex | hm? |
| 02:20.55 | Reactorex | What's up? |
| 02:21.18 | egodbout | create text tag for (xplayer) |
| 02:21.26 | Reactorex | Ah. |
| 02:21.30 | egodbout | it work |
| 02:22.12 | Barter | I see |
| 02:23.37 | egodbout | i show this to my father yesterday he was like: that diablo in space! |
| 02:23.49 | Lilianna | Hehe |
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| 02:26.34 | egodbout | is there any way with the new pathc to detect where the mouse position is without cliking now? |
| 02:27.07 | P_R_Deltoid | ravens pdd only works against missile attacks, right |
| 02:28.32 | Lilianna | yah |
| 02:28.33 | Sn0wbie | egodbout i think no |
| 02:28.50 | Sn0wbie | theres no way to find where cursor position is without clicking |
| 02:29.00 | egodbout | k |
| 02:29.11 | Sn0wbie | i may be wrong, though |
| 02:30.06 | P_R_Deltoid | you are right |
| 02:30.09 | P_R_Deltoid | but you can get the position |
| 02:30.12 | P_R_Deltoid | without clikcing |
| 02:30.14 | P_R_Deltoid | it will just |
| 02:30.20 | P_R_Deltoid | not happen automatically, you have to do a loop |
| 02:30.26 | P_R_Deltoid | and that'll slow the game down |
| 02:30.54 | P_R_Deltoid | But you can make a variable called MousePoint and assign it Point from XY and then set X and Y to Position of Mouse In Gamefield or whatever. |
| 02:31.08 | P_R_Deltoid | And then put it under a periodic |
| 02:31.14 | P_R_Deltoid | like 1 second or whatever, that is kinda slow |
| 02:31.28 | RedWraith | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25968748994&postId=259664222838&sid=5000#0 |
| 02:31.31 | RedWraith | kk |
| 02:31.50 | P_R_Deltoid | ooo RedWraith |
| 02:31.52 | P_R_Deltoid | big words |
| 02:31.56 | P_R_Deltoid | one of the stronger trigger editors of our community. |
| 02:32.14 | RedWraith | Oy |
| 02:32.16 | RedWraith | It's fair. |
| 02:32.16 | RedWraith | :P |
| 02:32.26 | P_R_Deltoid | what are some of you wc3 stuffs |
| 02:32.31 | RedWraith | lol |
| 02:32.34 | RedWraith | I modded HoN |
| 02:32.34 | RedWraith | :p |
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| 02:32.42 | P_R_Deltoid | modded? What do you mean? |
| 02:32.48 | P_R_Deltoid | Moderated or created mods for? |
| 02:32.52 | RedWraith | I made right click deny for a DotA spin off |
| 02:32.52 | RedWraith | :P |
| 02:32.59 | RedWraith | and like nine other mods |
| 02:33.07 | RedWraith | Though, I was also a moderator for a time. |
| 02:33.09 | P_R_Deltoid | When you say HON you mean Heroes of Newerth? |
| 02:33.12 | RedWraith | Yes. |
| 02:33.20 | P_R_Deltoid | Didn't know that was moddable. |
| 02:33.27 | RedWraith | It's very moddable. |
| 02:34.27 | P_R_Deltoid | NIce |
| 02:34.33 | P_R_Deltoid | Didn't do any wc3 stuff? |
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| 02:34.55 | AxlYin | x.x |
| 02:35.00 | AxlYin | allergies are fail |
| 02:36.21 | RedWraith | Didn't. |
| 02:36.27 | RedWraith | I made an anti-walling algorithm for sc2, though. |
| 02:36.29 | RedWraith | It's super duper fast. |
| 02:36.32 | ThunderLord | Readwraith |
| 02:36.33 | RedWraith | O(1) |
| 02:36.34 | ThunderLord | i agree |
| 02:36.34 | egodbout | you modded map...you didnt create one..lawl |
| 02:36.43 | ThunderLord | i hate data editor |
| 02:36.46 | RedWraith | ThunderLord, with the post? |
| 02:36.46 | P_R_Deltoid | anti walling? |
| 02:36.48 | ThunderLord | triggers are where it is at |
| 02:36.50 | ThunderLord | mmhmm |
| 02:36.51 | P_R_Deltoid | For a tower map or ? |
| 02:36.53 | RedWraith | egodbout, one sec |
| 02:36.57 | P_R_Deltoid | I love triggers |
| 02:37.04 | ThunderLord | TRIGGERS FTW |
| 02:37.07 | ThunderLord | SCREW DATA |
| 02:37.08 | RedWraith | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u5HwLR9Brc |
| 02:37.09 | RedWraith | I made that. |
| 02:37.10 | RedWraith | >:[ |
| 02:37.44 | RedWraith | but yeah |
| 02:37.51 | RedWraith | if anyone wants to, feel free to read/reply |
| 02:37.54 | RedWraith | to my data editor rant |
| 02:38.24 | RedWraith | I think it's a very strong solution which would not take a significant amount of effort on Blizzard's part. |
| 02:38.55 | ThunderLord | well |
| 02:39.00 | ThunderLord | i didet read the whole thing yet |
| 02:39.03 | ThunderLord | tbh |
| 02:39.04 | ThunderLord | i will |
| 02:39.06 | ThunderLord | i just saw |
| 02:39.09 | ThunderLord | triggers rule |
| 02:39.16 | ThunderLord | data needs improovement |
| 02:39.17 | P_R_Deltoid | You stole my idea! |
| 02:40.52 | RedWraith | P_R_Deltoid, I never heard that idea before in my life. |
| 02:40.52 | RedWraith | >_> |
| 02:41.04 | P_R_Deltoid | Sure you haven't, thief. |
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| 02:41.29 | RedWraith | Do you mean my idea for the data editor |
| 02:41.30 | RedWraith | ? |
| 02:41.35 | P_R_Deltoid | Yes I do. |
| 02:41.44 | RedWraith | Well, it's not like any of us can implement it anyway. |
| 02:41.46 | RedWraith | :P |
| 02:41.58 | Reactorex | Ueh? |
| 02:42.02 | Reactorex | I'm not so sure about that. |
| 02:42.03 | Reactorex | :o |
| 02:42.14 | RedWraith | What, is it possible to mod the galaxy editor? |
| 02:42.16 | P_R_Deltoid | Kidding, RedWraith ;) |
| 02:42.20 | P_R_Deltoid | although I had the same idea |
| 02:42.25 | RedWraith | I know. :) |
| 02:42.27 | P_R_Deltoid | needs easier to understand presets. |
| 02:42.38 | RedWraith | You can make your own presets. :O |
| 02:42.40 | P_R_Deltoid | so people don't hav eto figure it out by themselves. |
| 02:42.47 | RedWraith | but seriously |
| 02:42.55 | RedWraith | if there were one minor thing I could change about the editor |
| 02:42.58 | RedWraith | it would be |
| 02:43.03 | RedWraith | associating actors from units |
| 02:43.04 | RedWraith | :P |
| 02:43.17 | Reactorex | I'd make a GALAXY text editor in it. |
| 02:43.23 | Reactorex | With autocompletion/API list. |
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| 02:43.30 | egodbout | i tested my map with DatH, terrenceL, and Diablo employees in 2006, on a private (bnet server) that mean im good? lawl |
| 02:43.48 | RedWraith | Reactorex, that's hardly minor. |
| 02:43.49 | RedWraith | :P |
| 02:44.01 | Reactorex | I think big. |
| 02:44.06 | Reactorex | That's minor in my terms. |
| 02:44.06 | Reactorex | xD |
| 02:44.06 | RedWraith | Isn't someone doing that? |
| 02:44.16 | Reactorex | Third-party, teah. |
| 02:44.17 | Reactorex | yeah* |
| 02:44.26 | Reactorex | Haven't heard of anything officially supported in part of the editor for it |
| 02:44.31 | Reactorex | And nothing that I'd be able to use. |
| 02:44.47 | Reactorex | On another note; got any RPGs on SC2 yet? |
| 02:44.53 | Reactorex | Or any that ya'll'd recommend? |
| 02:45.16 | egodbout | mines, not done, rpg take times :( |
| 02:45.27 | Reactorex | I know. >.> |
| 02:45.32 | Reactorex | I've worked on like six RPGs on WC3. |
| 02:45.51 | ThunderLord | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.55 | ThunderLord | i am so sad right now |
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| 02:46.00 | ThunderLord | So depresed |
| 02:46.02 | Reactorex | Ueh? |
| 02:46.03 | Reactorex | Why? |
| 02:46.04 | P_R_Deltoid | it sucked? |
| 02:46.06 | ThunderLord | the Bnet servers couldent keep up |
| 02:46.10 | ThunderLord | it was a FPS |
| 02:46.12 | ThunderLord | and they ket |
| 02:46.12 | Reactorex | Oh. |
| 02:46.12 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh |
| 02:46.13 | P_R_Deltoid | Yeah |
| 02:46.14 | Reactorex | Yup. |
| 02:46.15 | ThunderLord | keys* |
| 02:46.20 | ThunderLord | will they become faster? |
| 02:46.21 | P_R_Deltoid | People knew about this a while ago |
| 02:46.24 | Dkrchris | is there a way to make random weather effects on maps? |
| 02:46.26 | ThunderLord | is there hope? |
| 02:46.29 | Reactorex | Yup.. and nope... |
| 02:46.47 | ThunderLord | well it wasent a true FPS, like with tracelines |
| 02:46.48 | ThunderLord | and stuf |
| 02:46.53 | ThunderLord | it was a tab target |
| 02:46.55 | ThunderLord | well |
| 02:46.59 | ThunderLord | i should upload to mapster |
| 02:47.18 | Reactorex | Does locking work yet? |
| 02:47.18 | Reactorex | :O |
| 02:47.23 | ThunderLord | there is a "Semi-Playable" version, very messed up cuz blizzard broke the camera Yaw thing |
| 02:47.37 | Reactorex | ... when'd they break it? |
| 02:47.41 | Reactorex | never heard of that. >_> |
| 02:47.42 | ThunderLord | this last patch |
| 02:47.49 | ThunderLord | yeah its only on bigger maps |
| 02:47.51 | Reactorex | B'awh. |
| 02:47.58 | ThunderLord | when ur cam is outside of a certain distance |
| 02:48.06 | ThunderLord | some guy made a map to easily demonstrate it |
| 02:48.13 | ThunderLord | ill try and find a link for you guys |
| 02:48.44 | Triceron | are you guys making open RPGs? |
| 02:49.24 | Reactorex | I like story-based RPGs. :3 |
| 02:49.30 | Triceron | same :D |
| 02:49.33 | Reactorex | I SO want to see a TPSRPG on this. |
| 02:49.40 | LordAbyss | anyone play Sols open rps from wc3? |
| 02:49.40 | egodbout | im making tristram rpg |
| 02:49.42 | Reactorex | Not overhead. >.> |
| 02:49.48 | Triceron | third person shooter? |
| 02:49.50 | ThunderLord | http://rapidsharâe.com/files/405801891â/wtf.SC2Map |
| 02:49.53 | Reactorex | A guns and weapons third person shooter RPG. |
| 02:49.59 | Reactorex | With a storyline. :O |
| 02:50.04 | ThunderLord | I MADE ONE |
| 02:50.09 | ThunderLord | oh no story line |
| 02:50.10 | Reactorex | I guess Red Steel is an example..? |
| 02:50.10 | Triceron | phantasy star online :D |
| 02:50.15 | Reactorex | Eh, no story line is okay too. |
| 02:50.25 | Reactorex | But an MMOTPSRPG would be epic. |
| 02:50.29 | ThunderLord | but blizzard has broken all maps like that remember |
| 02:50.34 | ThunderLord | i was going to make one like that |
| 02:50.35 | ThunderLord | but |
| 02:50.39 | ThunderLord | zombie survival |
| 02:50.43 | ThunderLord | with classes and stuf |
| 02:50.56 | ThunderLord | that is my next "Big" project |
| 02:51.19 | ThunderLord | once i figure out a good system for 3rd person shooters that dont jack everything up |
| 02:51.24 | ThunderLord | i had it set up so like |
| 02:51.28 | Triceron | someone should remake 7 blademasters |
| 02:51.32 | Triceron | *wink wink* |
| 02:51.36 | ThunderLord | all units in range of ur attacks are marked |
| 02:51.55 | ThunderLord | and you click the one you want to shoot at, and it is marked with a differant mark, and you auto shoot that target |
| 02:52.02 | ThunderLord | get read outs on its hp and stuf |
| 02:52.11 | ThunderLord | also all ur abilitys auto lock to that target |
| 02:52.45 | ThunderLord | that was how my #rd person shooter worked, but BLIZZARD IS A BUNCH OF SERVER SPEED GREEDY JERKS! |
| 02:53.06 | onetwo | HOLY SHIT |
| 02:53.07 | onetwo | its Reactorex |
| 02:53.14 | ThunderLord | kinda like wow |
| 02:53.46 | Muffin_ | . |
| 02:53.47 | Muffin_ | huyk |
| 02:53.55 | Muffin_ | uyg5r67? jhdf djhid d dk. |
| 02:54.15 | Warcrime | Hey man, thanks for that tidbit of info! I'm pretty sure that will get done what I want to, but I'll post again if it doesn't. |
| 02:54.18 | Warcrime | Awww I got a thanks. |
| 02:54.25 | Warcrime | Praise me. |
| 02:54.38 | Muffin_ | .. |
| 02:54.46 | Warcrime | Sixen |
| 02:54.49 | Muffin_ | all hail king warcrime... |
| 02:54.53 | Warcrime | Yes. |
| 02:55.25 | Sixen | Sup |
| 02:55.42 | onetwo | reactorex! |
| 02:55.54 | Warcrime | You should add a subsection for triggering help |
| 02:57.40 | ProzaicMuze | I need ideas for missile types |
| 02:57.48 | Muffin_ | http://rapidshar âe.com/files/405801891â/wtf.SC2Map |
| 02:57.53 | Muffin_ | whats that |
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| 02:58.08 | ProzaicMuze | I'm covering acceleration, lob, parabolic, spirals and generic missiles so far |
| 02:58.23 | onetwo | wow cool |
| 02:58.27 | ProzaicMuze | But I'm wanting at least a few more to round out the selection. |
| 02:58.37 | ProzaicMuze | Any ideas? |
| 02:59.10 | onetwo | how about one like rocket from HL2 |
| 02:59.17 | ProzaicMuze | Half-Life 2? |
| 02:59.32 | onetwo | goes off in a direction then locks onto target |
| 02:59.33 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:59.34 | P_R_Deltoid | laser guided? |
| 02:59.41 | P_R_Deltoid | they never locked, they go where you look |
| 02:59.50 | ProzaicMuze | as in tracking missiles? |
| 02:59.51 | onetwo | yeah well |
| 02:59.54 | onetwo | we cant do that here |
| 02:59.59 | onetwo | but we can use the idea |
| 03:00.17 | ThunderLord | you guys ever played a game called Micro Frenzy? |
| 03:00.32 | ThunderLord | was a WCIII mod |
| 03:00.34 | Muffin_ | has anyone ever used Total CMA Pack |
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| 03:00.46 | ProzaicMuze | no idea what that is Muffin |
| 03:00.52 | Muffin_ | ur face... |
| 03:01.12 | ProzaicMuze | @onetwo - if you're talking about tracking missiles, all missiles track unless you fire them with offsets (as in the case of piercing bullets, which reminds me I should cover those lol) |
| 03:01.12 | Muffin_ | :/ |
| 03:01.17 | ThunderLord | how do i make a LoS blocker that blocks flying units from seeing too? |
| 03:01.33 | egodbout | hey Sixen, do you know Sol Invincus? |
| 03:01.48 | Sixen | Yeah |
| 03:01.50 | P_R_Deltoid | Pretty excited, ProzaicMuze |
| 03:01.53 | P_R_Deltoid | what tutorial is this for |
| 03:01.54 | P_R_Deltoid | btw |
| 03:01.56 | P_R_Deltoid | ? |
| 03:01.56 | Sixen | He's over at Hellforge |
| 03:01.59 | Muffin_ | hey, how do you guys hide your porn? |
| 03:02.04 | ProzaicMuze | Customized Projectiles |
| 03:02.14 | ProzaicMuze | I'll be posting it tomorrow sometime after the next poll |
| 03:02.17 | Muffin_ | need pornz hiding help.. |
| 03:02.21 | ProzaicMuze | Well |
| 03:02.25 | Muffin_ | sixen make a tutorial |
| 03:02.27 | egodbout | ya, me and him play with Max bros at Mythos alpha,i just found screenshot on my desktop |
| 03:02.31 | ProzaicMuze | I start by not getting porn. . . so it hides itself |
| 03:02.38 | Muffin_ | lol |
| 03:02.44 | ThunderLord | You all should go read my Ballanceing Formula Tutorial |
| 03:02.46 | Muffin_ | its not really porn.. |
| 03:02.48 | ThunderLord | it is like |
| 03:02.49 | ThunderLord | ... |
| 03:02.52 | Muffin_ | but somthing i want to hide.. |
| 03:02.57 | ThunderLord | i worked hard on it |
| 03:03.02 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4448-prozaics-data-editor-tutorials-week-2/#p2 |
| 03:03.03 | ProzaicMuze | BTW |
| 03:03.16 | ProzaicMuze | I'm holding the next tutorial hostage until I get at least 3 good tutorial ideas for next week |
| 03:03.23 | ThunderLord | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4614-data-trinity-map-balance-balancing-your-map-with-formulas/ BALLANCE UR MAP REAL NICE |
| 03:03.29 | ProzaicMuze | I've actually got time to make 3 tutorials if those beginner tuts win next week. |
| 03:03.34 | ThunderLord | and leave a comment so i feel special |
| 03:03.36 | ProzaicMuze | But if I only have 1 replacement topic, that won't work lol |
| 03:03.57 | ProzaicMuze | Did you space out the math better? |
| 03:04.06 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 03:04.13 | ProzaicMuze | then I'll take a look here in a min :) |
| 03:04.18 | ThunderLord | i should re-word some of it |
| 03:04.19 | ProzaicMuze | Go throw an idea in my poll |
| 03:05.18 | Sixen | what kinda tutorial? |
| 03:05.23 | Sixen | lol egod |
| 03:05.48 | ProzaicMuze | I'm holding the Customized Projectiles tutoral hostage |
| 03:06.05 | ProzaicMuze | And muffin. . . quoting the only suggestion doesn't count rofl |
| 03:06.34 | Bifuu | revamp my hero tut =P |
| 03:06.37 | Bifuu | there |
| 03:06.39 | Bifuu | haha |
| 03:06.49 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 03:06.51 | egodbout | so you know who is Jaruf Sixen? |
| 03:06.56 | ProzaicMuze | if that's yoru suggestion, go toss it in meh thread lol |
| 03:07.06 | Bifuu | too lazy |
| 03:07.15 | Muffin_ | brok my iphone today.. :( |
| 03:07.15 | ProzaicMuze | Well then no tutorial for joo! |
| 03:07.36 | Muffin_ | http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9690/1278628559692.jpg |
| 03:08.19 | Bifuu | like i need tutorials =P |
| 03:08.39 | ProzaicMuze | Totally |
| 03:08.40 | Bifuu | hides the fact he read your beam one |
| 03:08.48 | ProzaicMuze | because you know nothing about the editor |
| 03:08.49 | ProzaicMuze | at all |
| 03:08.52 | ProzaicMuze | so you totally need my help |
| 03:08.54 | ProzaicMuze | because I said |
| 03:08.55 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 03:09.06 | Bifuu | i saw beginner and i was like "hell yeah thats me!" |
| 03:09.06 | ProzaicMuze | and I have to admit I actually read my own tutorial at one point |
| 03:09.15 | Bifuu | lol |
| 03:09.16 | Muffin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.19 | Bifuu | i read mine all the time |
| 03:09.28 | Bifuu | iPhailed |
| 03:09.45 | Bifuu | iGotADroid |
| 03:13.10 | egodbout | when you have 2xInventory, (one is a hero inventory, other one a bags) how you detect the slot number in the (hero inventory) ? |
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| 03:15.01 | onetwo | i dont know egodbout |
| 03:15.15 | onetwo | if you had 2 slots in equipment, and 4 slots in a 2x2 bag |
| 03:15.54 | ProzaicMuze | General Challenge: if you can find me a musical ground/singer that incorporates piano and I haven't heard it (and like it) I shall make you a special ability for your map. |
| 03:16.03 | onetwo | would it come out as 0 (equip 1) | 1 (equip 2) | 2 (bag 1) | 3 (bag 2) | 4 (bag 3) | 5 (bag 4) |
| 03:16.07 | onetwo | 6 diff slots |
| 03:16.07 | ProzaicMuze | I've burned out my current music playlist :( |
| 03:16.14 | ProzaicMuze | ground = group* |
| 03:16.17 | egodbout | you sure? |
| 03:16.22 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 03:16.28 | egodbout | will check this right now |
| 03:16.34 | onetwo | but if you set a variable to = all items carried by hero |
| 03:16.38 | onetwo | it will return EVERYTHING |
| 03:16.41 | onetwo | i believe |
| 03:16.46 | onetwo | so it must have some way of ordering |
| 03:17.35 | ThunderLord | i updated it |
| 03:17.46 | ThunderLord | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4614-data-trinity-map-balance-balancing-your-map-with-formulas/ |
| 03:17.53 | ThunderLord | i am actually working on another one |
| 03:17.57 | ThunderLord | that would like |
| 03:18.04 | onetwo | will your formula complete my map for me? |
| 03:18.06 | onetwo | plz |
| 03:18.29 | ThunderLord | factor in, the damage not being split evenly between targets |
| 03:18.39 | ThunderLord | no but it might speed up the process |
| 03:18.51 | ProzaicMuze | Does it cook and give blowjobs? |
| 03:18.52 | ThunderLord | its hard to see its true value at first glance |
| 03:18.58 | ThunderLord | well |
| 03:19.01 | ThunderLord | it dose not cook |
| 03:19.20 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 03:19.22 | ProzaicMuze | then it is teh suck |
| 03:19.33 | ThunderLord | O= |
| 03:19.35 | ProzaicMuze | Phail non-cooking tutorial formula is phail ;P |
| 03:19.40 | ThunderLord | Amg! |
| 03:19.42 | RoarMan | NO BJ'S |
| 03:19.42 | RoarMan | WTF |
| 03:19.50 | ThunderLord | i worked 12 hrs working on that formula! |
| 03:19.52 | RoarMan | THATS THE BEST ALTERNATIVE TO INTERCOURSE |
| 03:19.54 | ThunderLord | i sat and |
| 03:19.57 | ThunderLord | AGAHS |
| 03:20.00 | RoarMan | Lol |
| 03:20.04 | ThunderLord | Lol |
| 03:20.13 | ThunderLord | actualy i worked a long time on that ting |
| 03:20.16 | ThunderLord | thing* |
| 03:20.31 | ThunderLord | to ballance my footmen frenzy map and custom races maps in warcraft 3 |
| 03:20.47 | ThunderLord | it can actually be a very usefull tool in almost any map |
| 03:20.51 | ThunderLord | if you use it correctly |
| 03:21.16 | ThunderLord | well i think so, but then again i made it so i am not allowed to say "Its awesome!" |
| 03:22.21 | ThunderLord | but you can use it to ballance costs and stuf |
| 03:22.24 | ProzaicMuze | Just because you said that, I'm gonna make a rival tutorial explaining the way I balanced my own map |
| 03:22.28 | ProzaicMuze | and it will be 100x petter |
| 03:22.29 | ProzaicMuze | better* |
| 03:22.33 | ProzaicMuze | because I'll include pictures |
| 03:22.37 | ProzaicMuze | instead of mathematical formulas |
| 03:22.41 | ThunderLord | )= |
| 03:22.43 | ProzaicMuze | where you add apples and oranges |
| 03:22.47 | ProzaicMuze | Fruit math wins! |
| 03:22.48 | ThunderLord | im sorry? |
| 03:22.53 | ThunderLord | dont? |
| 03:23.05 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 03:23.12 | ThunderLord | (= |
| 03:23.13 | ProzaicMuze | I've got too many other things I have to do anyways |
| 03:23.18 | egodbout | the ID slot not reconize in the equip thing |
| 03:23.24 | egodbout | so fuking annoyong |
| 03:23.35 | ThunderLord | well, yeah |
| 03:23.43 | ThunderLord | just thought ide share it with you guys! |
| 03:23.45 | ThunderLord | Gosh! |
| 03:23.57 | ThunderLord | *Cry* |
| 03:24.57 | ProzaicMuze | assers his authority as tutorial dictator! >:D |
| 03:24.59 | Sixen | What? |
| 03:25.08 | Sixen | are you guys being mean |
| 03:26.24 | ProzaicMuze | I'm being mean |
| 03:26.25 | ProzaicMuze | yes |
| 03:26.26 | ProzaicMuze | because it's fun |
| 03:26.57 | ProzaicMuze | (BTW, you should find one of those online sites that make those nifty math equation pictures. I think your tutorial would really pop with those) |
| 03:29.10 | ThunderLord | oh |
| 03:29.13 | ThunderLord | okay i will |
| 03:29.18 | ThunderLord | you know what else |
| 03:29.23 | ThunderLord | YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE |
| 03:29.33 | ThunderLord | i will make a tutorial for my tab target system |
| 03:29.38 | ThunderLord | and then everyone will be like |
| 03:29.39 | ThunderLord | omg |
| 03:29.47 | ThunderLord | thunderlord is teh shit |
| 03:30.22 | ThunderLord | cuz i dont even know how it works, i like, zoned out in editor land for like 3 days |
| 03:30.25 | ThunderLord | and it was done |
| 03:30.30 | ThunderLord | it was super complex |
| 03:30.49 | ThunderLord | ill just show you in a tutorial, i am proud of that too, just like my formula |
| 03:32.27 | onetwo | lil jon: HOOKAY |
| 03:33.09 | slightlyrandom | ThunderLord: You completely neglect speed in that Tutorial |
| 03:33.27 | ThunderLord | i neglected alot of factors |
| 03:33.37 | ThunderLord | attack speed? |
| 03:33.39 | ThunderLord | i factored in attack speed |
| 03:33.41 | onetwo | you neglected your wife |
| 03:33.44 | onetwo | now your exwife |
| 03:33.51 | ThunderLord | omg rlly? |
| 03:33.54 | onetwo | i guess she didnt factor into your formula? |
| 03:33.55 | slightlyrandom | Now, if I want to make slowed units appear blue... |
| 03:33.55 | ThunderLord | IM SORRY! |
| 03:33.57 | onetwo | YOU AND YOUR FORMULA |
| 03:34.02 | slightlyrandom | Stop that |
| 03:34.03 | onetwo | cries |
| 03:34.04 | slightlyrandom | Both of you |
| 03:34.25 | ThunderLord | Im sorry |
| 03:34.26 | slightlyrandom | ThunderLord: Faster units will get to wrap around slower units |
| 03:34.26 | onetwo | sometimes i think id make a better woman than man |
| 03:34.34 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 03:34.37 | onetwo | i can remind you of past flaws, accuse you of spending too much time with something |
| 03:34.44 | ThunderLord | but that is almost impossible to factor in to a formula |
| 03:34.44 | onetwo | ill be nice and then mean |
| 03:34.49 | onetwo | my self esteem is shaky |
| 03:34.54 | onetwo | its a perfect match |
| 03:34.54 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 03:35.40 | slightlyrandom | Surely there is a better way to make units change color when a behavior is on than go through each and every one and give it an event |
| 03:36.13 | onetwo | blizz has an event for like every unit |
| 03:36.19 | onetwo | being affected by graviton beam |
| 03:36.27 | onetwo | can you imagine if dustin browder wants a new spell |
| 03:36.39 | onetwo | the editor-people have to go into EVERY unit and make an event for it |
| 03:36.41 | slightlyrandom | So... I have to do it the stupid way? :D |
| 03:36.42 | onetwo | :/ |
| 03:36.48 | onetwo | unless you can find a trigger way |
| 03:36.53 | onetwo | "send actor message" |
| 03:37.09 | Barter | hmm, in the "Item carried by unit in slot" the slot index does not coincide with the one returned by "Inventory slot of item", ffs |
| 03:37.21 | slightlyrandom | I'll accept that Blizzard probably has some people working there that know what they're doing |
| 03:37.30 | egodbout | yes barter, it work, i use |
| 03:37.35 | slightlyrandom | and they wouldnt apply the Grav beam that way if there was a cleverer way |
| 03:37.36 | egodbout | Grabs item and Move item |
| 03:37.40 | egodbout | or type |
| 03:37.42 | ThunderLord | who is cinicraft? |
| 03:37.42 | onetwo | lol wtf |
| 03:37.42 | egodbout | of |
| 03:37.46 | Barter | hmmm |
| 03:37.48 | Barter | but |
| 03:38.06 | egodbout | the problem is |
| 03:38.11 | Barter | well, it depends how you inventory is |
| 03:38.18 | egodbout | how to ID the hero inventory ya |
| 03:38.23 | egodbout | the bags work |
| 03:38.42 | egodbout | TD each slot |
| 03:38.44 | Barter | the one returned by the last function is like the position of the slot in the inventory |
| 03:38.58 | Barter | the first one is not that |
| 03:39.17 | Barter | if I have only one item in slot 4 |
| 03:39.33 | Barter | to get it with the first function you have to say inde 1 |
| 03:39.40 | Barter | index |
| 03:40.00 | egodbout | no more needed to work with index with the hero manipulating |
| 03:40.08 | egodbout | each slot have a ID so |
| 03:40.21 | egodbout | its just the other inventory dont have ID |
| 03:42.44 | egodbout | im trying hard to find a way to detect this hero inventory slot |
| 03:43.01 | ThunderLord | how much do you think i would have to spend on a laptop to be able to Play SCII on high graphics settings? |
| 03:43.04 | ThunderLord | where ever i go |
| 03:43.27 | onetwo | 3K at high fps |
| 03:43.28 | onetwo | im guessing |
| 03:43.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Phaos (~Rorax@203.160.116.94) |
| 03:43.34 | ThunderLord | woah |
| 03:43.42 | Dustin | 800-1000 |
| 03:43.45 | ThunderLord | i dont have 3K lol |
| 03:43.46 | onetwo | that cheap? |
| 03:43.48 | ThunderLord | 800-1000? |
| 03:43.48 | Dustin | Ya |
| 03:43.52 | onetwo | my 1100 macbook can barely play low |
| 03:43.52 | ThunderLord | where? |
| 03:43.56 | Dustin | MY laptop plays on medium |
| 03:43.58 | Dustin | And it was 400 |
| 03:44.00 | Bifuu | wow |
| 03:44.05 | Dustin | Eww maxbook |
| 03:44.07 | ThunderLord | have you overclocked? |
| 03:44.08 | Dustin | that's why :P |
| 03:44.10 | Dustin | No |
| 03:44.12 | Bifuu | i just got the sudden urge to learn .net web development |
| 03:44.17 | onetwo | go ahead |
| 03:44.18 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:44.44 | ThunderLord | OMG ITS BIFUU! |
| 03:44.48 | Bifuu | omg! |
| 03:44.51 | ThunderLord | holy crap! |
| 03:44.52 | ThunderLord | dude |
| 03:44.56 | ThunderLord | you tought me the editor lol |
| 03:45.10 | Bifuu | nice |
| 03:45.12 | Dustin | 2.1 Dualcore, 3gigs DDr2 Ram, Radeon 3200 Mobile or something |
| 03:45.15 | ThunderLord | You |
| 03:45.15 | Bifuu | glad my shit helped someone |
| 03:45.15 | Bifuu | lol |
| 03:45.17 | ThunderLord | are the bestest |
| 03:45.28 | ThunderLord | i dont think you understand |
| 03:45.34 | ThunderLord | how lost i would have been lol |
| 03:45.36 | slightlyrandom | Bifuu? Your shit made me not want to make maps |
| 03:45.48 | Bifuu | .o |
| 03:45.48 | ThunderLord | i am in awe |
| 03:45.50 | Bifuu | O.o |
| 03:45.52 | Muffin_ | What Chew all owrking on right now???? |
| 03:45.53 | ThunderLord | ur like famous |
| 03:45.55 | onetwo | yeah bifuu is the best |
| 03:46.01 | slightlyrandom | Then I saw onetwo's stuff and changed my mind |
| 03:46.06 | Bifuu | but speaking on laptops, this one im on now was 1.1 and it run high at 60 |
| 03:46.19 | ThunderLord | REALLY! |
| 03:46.24 | Bifuu | yeah |
| 03:46.27 | ThunderLord | i almost spent 1900 on a laptop yesterday |
| 03:46.30 | Bifuu | sec ill find it |
| 03:46.31 | onetwo | hey Sixen we should have the Mappy's |
| 03:46.34 | onetwo | a red carpet event |
| 03:46.36 | Reactorex | HI ONETWO. |
| 03:46.37 | Bifuu | 1900? O.o |
| 03:46.38 | Reactorex | :D |
| 03:46.38 | onetwo | best map of the year |
| 03:46.39 | Warcrime | Does voice chat work in Starcraft II? |
| 03:46.41 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 03:46.45 | Reactorex | Just got back lawl |
| 03:46.47 | ThunderLord | i dident cuz of how big it was |
| 03:46.49 | Bifuu | on what haha |
| 03:46.52 | ThunderLord | like H U G E |
| 03:47.00 | ThunderLord | it would take 10 men to lift this computer |
| 03:47.00 | onetwo | jeeze where were you |
| 03:47.06 | Bifuu | ill show you the laptop im getting in like a month |
| 03:47.06 | ThunderLord | Frys |
| 03:47.08 | slightlyrandom | Might as well buy a proper tower computer |
| 03:47.14 | ThunderLord | show me the one you are on |
| 03:47.21 | ThunderLord | is that the one you did the tutorials from |
| 03:47.24 | Warcrime | http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Battalion_101_X8100_Gaming_Notebook |
| 03:47.26 | Warcrime | There you go |
| 03:47.26 | ThunderLord | i could be famous ytoo |
| 03:47.29 | Warcrime | i7 core in a laptop |
| 03:47.48 | Muffin_ | link |
| 03:47.50 | Warcrime | 2X Mobility DDR3 1GB NVIDIA GTX285M PCI-Express 3D Video in SLI mode [X8100] |
| 03:47.56 | Muffin_ | dosnt work |
| 03:48.05 | Warcrime | Mine? |
| 03:48.05 | Muffin_ | NVM |
| 03:48.06 | Bifuu | pfft |
| 03:48.07 | Bifuu | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695 |
| 03:48.10 | Bifuu | get that |
| 03:48.25 | lotharscm | how do you create a spell resistance percent? a damage response with kind spell and and then a modify fraction? |
| 03:48.28 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4448-prozaics-data-editor-tutorials-week-2/#p3 |
| 03:48.40 | ProzaicMuze | Need 3 more topics |
| 03:48.41 | ProzaicMuze | go |
| 03:48.42 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 03:48.47 | ThunderLord | i just wanted one |
| 03:48.50 | ThunderLord | oh i got a topic |
| 03:48.54 | ThunderLord | anything about actors |
| 03:48.56 | ThunderLord | i hate actors |
| 03:48.59 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 03:49.03 | ProzaicMuze | I already made that tutorial |
| 03:49.07 | ThunderLord | more |
| 03:49.11 | ThunderLord | i want one that dose |
| 03:49.16 | Muffin_ | BRIDGES! |
| 03:49.27 | lotharscm | do you want us to vote, or to suggest ideas? |
| 03:49.30 | Barter | is there any way to see the built-in functions code? |
| 03:49.31 | ThunderLord | Player X sees a unit as Tinted Blue while player Y sees normal tint |
| 03:49.43 | Bifuu | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695 <--- bets laptopfor the money imo |
| 03:49.53 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, can I nominate something twice |
| 03:49.57 | Bifuu | i7, 8 gig ram, 5870m |
| 03:49.58 | P_R_Deltoid | sort of a ... seconding if youw ill |
| 03:50.03 | P_R_Deltoid | If so, I nominate cone view |
| 03:50.06 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 03:50.07 | P_R_Deltoid | thanks in advance |
| 03:50.12 | ProzaicMuze | someone else already quoted you |
| 03:50.16 | ProzaicMuze | I need MORE ideas |
| 03:50.20 | P_R_Deltoid | does it have to be de? |
| 03:50.22 | ProzaicMuze | since I'm lookin' to do 3 tutorials next week |
| 03:50.31 | ProzaicMuze | and it looks like the Tower Kit is also dropping |
| 03:50.33 | ProzaicMuze | meaning 4 replacements |
| 03:50.35 | ThunderLord | ill check it out biffu |
| 03:50.37 | ProzaicMuze | and I only have 1 topic in there |
| 03:50.39 | ThunderLord | and warcrime |
| 03:50.39 | ProzaicMuze | So I need 3 more rofl |
| 03:50.41 | slightlyrandom | Do tower morphing with building animations ProzaicMuze |
| 03:50.41 | ThunderLord | that laptop |
| 03:50.43 | ThunderLord | is like 2500! |
| 03:50.48 | P_R_Deltoid | Is it only the data editor? |
| 03:50.49 | ThunderLord | i want the quad core |
| 03:50.50 | slightlyrandom | That'll be useful for all the 10.000 TDs |
| 03:50.58 | P_R_Deltoid | gaming laptops suck |
| 03:51.01 | ProzaicMuze | For now, yes |
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| 03:51.06 | lotharscm | proziacmuze you should do something about spells that move targets (knockback/pull) : )))))) or just help me with it |
| 03:51.10 | ProzaicMuze | Until I can convince a trigger exper to work with me |
| 03:51.10 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, then you can SUCK MY DICK |
| 03:51.16 | ProzaicMuze | @.@ |
| 03:51.19 | Bifuu | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220696 is what im currently on |
| 03:51.23 | ProzaicMuze | deletes your cone suggestion |
| 03:51.35 | ProzaicMuze | @Lothar - so Apply Force tutorial? |
| 03:51.40 | lotharscm | yes |
| 03:51.40 | onetwo | ooh id like that |
| 03:51.43 | lotharscm | definitely |
| 03:51.43 | onetwo | i totally forgot |
| 03:51.45 | onetwo | prozaic |
| 03:51.49 | onetwo | an ideal tutorial would be a knockback |
| 03:51.50 | onetwo | and knock into air |
| 03:51.53 | ProzaicMuze | well |
| 03:51.55 | ThunderLord | woah Biffu |
| 03:51.59 | ProzaicMuze | then you two should go to my thread |
| 03:52.00 | ProzaicMuze | and suggest it |
| 03:52.01 | ThunderLord | that has almost everything i want |
| 03:52.02 | onetwo | k |
| 03:52.02 | ProzaicMuze | since I can do both |
| 03:52.02 | onetwo | done |
| 03:52.05 | ThunderLord | ALMOST |
| 03:52.06 | lotharscm | ok |
| 03:52.07 | ThunderLord | I need a SSD |
| 03:52.11 | ProzaicMuze | I made a sweet tornado for Jcup teh other day. |
| 03:52.14 | Bifuu | they make one with a ssd |
| 03:52.16 | ThunderLord | but i think i can upgrade to that |
| 03:52.29 | Bifuu | its like |
| 03:52.35 | Bifuu | the x3 or a3 or something |
| 03:53.01 | Reactorex | Are you still carrying infection at all, onetwo? xD I haven't seen it on the games list in phase 2. |
| 03:53.02 | Reactorex | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.18 | onetwo | meh |
| 03:53.19 | onetwo | not really |
| 03:53.23 | onetwo | id have to go fix all the bugs |
| 03:53.26 | Reactorex | But I'm sure there's going to be more than a million of it in live. |
| 03:53.31 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:53.39 | onetwo | things have changed since you done gone left |
| 03:53.46 | onetwo | you been keeping in touch with my channel? |
| 03:53.47 | onetwo | at all? |
| 03:53.53 | Bifuu | ThunderLord: http://www.amazon.com/Asus-G73JH-A3-Republic-Gamers-17-Inch/dp/B003O2S03K |
| 03:54.05 | Bifuu | only a 4gb SSD but thats all you need for the OS |
| 03:54.10 | Bifuu | okus another TB to boot |
| 03:54.27 | Bifuu | plus |
| 03:54.30 | Bifuu | cant see shit |
| 03:54.31 | Bifuu | lol |
| 03:54.42 | ProzaicMuze | mmk, 2 more topics lol |
| 03:54.48 | onetwo | Reactorex |
| 03:54.52 | onetwo | been working on an RPG |
| 03:54.54 | ProzaicMuze | At this point, just go through the data editor, point at something you think is cool and say "teach me dat!" |
| 03:54.55 | onetwo | for the past month |
| 03:54.57 | onetwo | and some cinematics |
| 03:55.07 | onetwo | might re-release Infection later |
| 03:55.09 | slightlyrandom | Want more general subjects PM ? |
| 03:55.11 | onetwo | with dvd extras! |
| 03:55.11 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:55.19 | ProzaicMuze | Doesn't matter to me |
| 03:55.20 | ThunderLord | but that one only has 4Gb SSD |
| 03:55.27 | ProzaicMuze | It can be a wide topic or very specific |
| 03:55.40 | ThunderLord | i need atlest like 20 to hold SCII and any updates that may come along |
| 03:55.50 | Bifuu | o |
| 03:55.51 | Bifuu | then |
| 03:55.53 | Bifuu | buy uhh |
| 03:56.01 | ThunderLord | wow Bifuu |
| 03:56.07 | Bifuu | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220704 |
| 03:56.08 | ThunderLord | you have answers to everything (= |
| 03:56.25 | Bifuu | this series has room for 2 HDDs |
| 03:56.36 | Bifuu | but if you dont get one with 2 HDDs already |
| 03:56.37 | ProzaicMuze | SSDs burnt out faster than HDDs though |
| 03:56.39 | ProzaicMuze | burn* |
| 03:56.42 | Bifuu | you dont have a mount for the 2nd |
| 03:57.04 | Bifuu | people use altoid cans to hold their drives, its funny |
| 03:57.14 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 03:57.22 | onetwo | you have to hot-swipe SSDs with HDD's though to prevent coolant damage |
| 03:57.22 | Bifuu | or double sided tape and just stick it there |
| 03:57.24 | ThunderLord | SSD drives are SOOOO fast tho |
| 03:57.44 | Bifuu | the HDDs this comes with is one of the fastest alreadyO.o |
| 03:57.51 | Bifuu | 7200 rpm |
| 03:57.53 | P_R_Deltoid | I'll give you some idea, ProzaicMuze |
| 03:58.18 | ThunderLord | SSD is better for battery life tho too |
| 03:58.24 | ThunderLord | Bifuu |
| 03:58.30 | ThunderLord | you have given me alot to think about |
| 03:58.31 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 03:58.39 | Bifuu | lol |
| 03:58.40 | Bifuu | well |
| 03:58.40 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTX-wHikNBY vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p8NP-pjOF8&feature=fvst which one is faster |
| 03:58.47 | ThunderLord | you know your stuf |
| 03:58.48 | Bifuu | ive been in the market for a good laptop myself |
| 03:58.50 | ProzaicMuze | SSDs are indeed quite fast, but if you're going for a laptop, I don't think SSDs are really neccessary |
| 03:59.12 | ThunderLord | i want an SSD that is like ONLY SSD |
| 03:59.16 | ThunderLord | that would be perfect |
| 03:59.18 | ProzaicMuze | Unless you plan on rigorous programs like video/graphic editing. |
| 03:59.19 | ThunderLord | like 120 G |
| 03:59.27 | ProzaicMuze | That would cost you an arm and a leg lmao |
| 03:59.30 | onetwo | 512 G |
| 03:59.32 | onetwo | SSD |
| 03:59.32 | onetwo | go |
| 03:59.35 | ThunderLord | woah |
| 03:59.36 | Bifuu | lolol |
| 03:59.37 | onetwo | arab money |
| 03:59.38 | onetwo | GO |
| 03:59.39 | ProzaicMuze | and maybe both your testicles |
| 03:59.45 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 03:59.58 | ThunderLord | well, it is more battery efficent |
| 03:59.59 | RodOfNOD | i have 9gb ram is that any good? |
| 04:00.03 | P_R_Deltoid | there |
| 04:00.05 | P_R_Deltoid | two more ideas |
| 04:00.06 | P_R_Deltoid | you are welcome |
| 04:00.13 | P_R_Deltoid | (give me some extra votes on that cone LOS, willya |
| 04:00.15 | onetwo | just went to check alienware's site |
| 04:00.16 | onetwo | 512GB RAID 0 (2x 256GB Solid State Drive) |
| 04:00.21 | onetwo | go |
| 04:00.23 | onetwo | get that |
| 04:00.25 | onetwo | LOL |
| 04:00.27 | RodOfNOD | u got a link P_R_Deltoid? |
| 04:00.37 | P_R_Deltoid | to what? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4448-prozaics-data-editor-tutorials-week-2/#p7. |
| 04:00.41 | ThunderLord | and if you computer is moving (like a lap top would be) SSD has no moving parts |
| 04:00.43 | P_R_Deltoid | That is what I was talking about, RodOfNOD |
| 04:00.49 | ThunderLord | so turbulence dosent matter |
| 04:00.56 | RodOfNOD | u really got get rid of that picture its like scarey |
| 04:01.04 | P_R_Deltoid | It's like super cool |
| 04:01.05 | P_R_Deltoid | or |
| 04:01.08 | P_R_Deltoid | super kewel ^_^ |
| 04:01.09 | slightlyrandom | How do I get rid of a tint? |
| 04:01.13 | slightlyrandom | Events* |
| 04:01.21 | P_R_Deltoid | right click |
| 04:01.22 | P_R_Deltoid | remove terms |
| 04:01.23 | ProzaicMuze | That picture is kuhreepay! |
| 04:01.24 | P_R_Deltoid | or whatever it says |
| 04:01.37 | ThunderLord | like all i need is OS, WCIII, SCII, SCI |
| 04:01.44 | RodOfNOD | ah i already voted on that and my choice is winning |
| 04:01.54 | slightlyrandom | Heh |
| 04:01.54 | RodOfNOD | what kind of tint slightlyrandom? |
| 04:02.16 | ThunderLord | alian wears are so overpriced |
| 04:02.17 | slightlyrandom | I do SetTintColor when I detect a behavior on a unit. I want the color to revert when the behavior goes away |
| 04:02.21 | P_R_Deltoid | ohhh |
| 04:02.28 | P_R_Deltoid | set is back to the regular tint |
| 04:02.35 | P_R_Deltoid | 0,0,0 or whatever |
| 04:02.40 | ProzaicMuze | and thank much for the topics |
| 04:02.46 | slightlyrandom | I tried setting it to null, but thats just black :S |
| 04:02.48 | ProzaicMuze | now I can replace the topics when the poll finishes |
| 04:02.55 | P_R_Deltoid | I personally really like the latter one, saw it in the xcom thread |
| 04:02.59 | P_R_Deltoid | kind of a moral thing, like dow |
| 04:03.04 | P_R_Deltoid | or, apparently, xcom. |
| 04:03.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster ThunderLord_ (60e2f012@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.226.240.18) |
| 04:03.23 | P_R_Deltoid | Don't you still ahve to do a second tutorial from week one or something |
| 04:03.41 | onetwo | i kind of need a new comp eventually; trying to fraps on ultra with large battles |
| 04:03.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster Thunder_Lord (60e2f012@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.226.240.18) |
| 04:03.46 | P_R_Deltoid | Customized Projectiles (Advanced) |
| 04:03.46 | onetwo | takes me down to 10 or less fps |
| 04:03.48 | P_R_Deltoid | where dis at |
| 04:03.53 | RodOfNOD | slightlyrandom is their any other behavior that already does this tint stuff? |
| 04:04.01 | slightlyrandom | I don't know |
| 04:04.09 | slightlyrandom | The only thing I can think of is Grav Beam |
| 04:04.32 | slightlyrandom | Fungal Growth just spawns a model on top of the model |
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| 04:05.30 | RodOfNOD | well my recommendation would be to check what it does |
| 04:05.32 | RodOfNOD | and duplicate it :> |
| 04:05.47 | RodOfNOD | but if no spell currently does it then idk what to tell u |
| 04:05.57 | RodOfNOD | is there a way to store variables in data events? |
| 04:06.09 | slightlyrandom | Well, I could add the frenzy model around the unit instead, I guess |
| 04:06.13 | ProzaicMuze | lol the 2nd tutorial is coming out tomorrow |
| 04:06.15 | slightlyrandom | That's actually a good idea |
| 04:06.25 | P_R_Deltoid | but.. that is week 3, proziac |
| 04:06.31 | RodOfNOD | whats a good idea? |
| 04:06.35 | P_R_Deltoid | I see a problem here |
| 04:06.46 | ProzaicMuze | Given the patch troubles and the fact that the Actor Tutorial is so huge, it'll be fine |
| 04:06.51 | ProzaicMuze | Plus you can't complain about free tutorials ;) |
| 04:07.03 | RodOfNOD | well we could but we wouldnt :> |
| 04:07.18 | ProzaicMuze | Because if you did I'd bitchslap you |
| 04:07.24 | ProzaicMuze | Because I'm cool like that. |
| 04:07.27 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:07.43 | RodOfNOD | violence except in movies is never cool, well ok i guess boxing and hockey too :P |
| 04:07.44 | slightlyrandom | Instead of coloring the unit, adding a coloured swirl around it, like Frenzy does |
| 04:08.05 | RodOfNOD | wish i knew what frezy looked like lol |
| 04:08.12 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, I can, and I will, complain. |
| 04:08.59 | ProzaicMuze | Just remember that when your cone vision suddenly loses all its votes and is replaced with a cooler idea ;) |
| 04:09.27 | onetwo | knockback will win |
| 04:09.34 | onetwo | i already have barack obama backing me |
| 04:09.45 | onetwo | hes baracking me |
| 04:09.50 | RodOfNOD | doh |
| 04:10.48 | slightlyrandom | It's just a sort of Swirly Cloud sorta thing RodOfNOD |
| 04:11.03 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, then I will nominate it again |
| 04:11.10 | slightlyrandom | Hmm, I wonder where it is applied |
| 04:11.10 | P_R_Deltoid | I don't see any other idea with a second |
| 04:11.12 | P_R_Deltoid | sooooooo |
| 04:11.16 | P_R_Deltoid | I think we know who is gonna win |
| 04:11.36 | RoarMan | Wasaa goin on. |
| 04:11.53 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 04:12.01 | lotharscm | apply force ftw |
| 04:12.09 | ProzaicMuze | I'm still unsure how I can reliably make yoru cone vision crap |
| 04:12.10 | ProzaicMuze | btu |
| 04:12.11 | ProzaicMuze | but* |
| 04:12.16 | ProzaicMuze | if it wins I'll figure it out lol |
| 04:12.32 | P_R_Deltoid | You better |
| 04:12.33 | P_R_Deltoid | mush mush |
| 04:12.38 | onetwo | it wont win |
| 04:12.45 | P_R_Deltoid | Fuck off, onetwo, yes it will |
| 04:12.47 | P_R_Deltoid | I swear to god |
| 04:12.48 | P_R_Deltoid | if it doesn't |
| 04:12.48 | onetwo | ive already hired an inside man |
| 04:12.52 | P_R_Deltoid | I will use realid to track you down |
| 04:12.54 | P_R_Deltoid | and KILL you |
| 04:13.01 | P_R_Deltoid | both of you |
| 04:13.08 | onetwo | you know how much security i have? you think tutorial money is small? |
| 04:13.14 | P_R_Deltoid | the shitdam is breaking, and you';re about to witness a shitnami. |
| 04:13.16 | onetwo | i own half of this city |
| 04:13.23 | RoarMan | OneTwo ball that shit! |
| 04:13.34 | RodOfNOD | of course he lives in a city with 2 people so its not saying much |
| 04:13.36 | P_R_Deltoid | Shitcity, onetwo, shit city. |
| 04:13.40 | onetwo | i race mexicans at red lights because their mustangs < my grillz |
| 04:13.45 | P_R_Deltoid | Shit city about to be overrun with a shitnami |
| 04:13.48 | onetwo | but back to the topic at hand |
| 04:13.49 | P_R_Deltoid | of shit proportions |
| 04:14.01 | onetwo | prozaic is my digital girl |
| 04:14.04 | onetwo | so he'll swing my way |
| 04:14.07 | onetwo | and make the right decision |
| 04:14.11 | ProzaicMuze | @.@ |
| 04:14.15 | RoarMan | Lol |
| 04:14.17 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, have youe ver seen Menace II Society? |
| 04:14.22 | ProzaicMuze | kills onetwo's inside man |
| 04:14.26 | onetwo | HA |
| 04:14.28 | onetwo | i never had one |
| 04:14.29 | ProzaicMuze | I an he-fucking-man |
| 04:14.31 | ProzaicMuze | am* |
| 04:14.41 | onetwo | your he-man? |
| 04:14.46 | ProzaicMuze | eats meat raw! |
| 04:14.53 | ProzaicMuze | I haven't, Deltoid. Is that a movie? |
| 04:14.57 | P_R_Deltoid | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lz7N7_s6AQ |
| 04:14.59 | P_R_Deltoid | Yes |
| 04:15.04 | P_R_Deltoid | wait |
| 04:15.05 | P_R_Deltoid | wtf |
| 04:15.14 | P_R_Deltoid | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S01g4SwPpcM&feature=related |
| 04:15.15 | P_R_Deltoid | this one |
| 04:15.25 | RoarMan | Deltoid that move is gangstar. |
| 04:15.27 | onetwo | see he cant even get the right video |
| 04:15.28 | RoarMan | Movie* |
| 04:15.31 | onetwo | nevermind pick the right tutorial for you to do |
| 04:15.33 | RoarMan | ITS GANGSTAR |
| 04:15.35 | onetwo | definitely dont listen to him |
| 04:15.39 | P_R_Deltoid | I will literally suck your dick for cone vision |
| 04:15.44 | P_R_Deltoid | and give you some cheeseburgers |
| 04:15.52 | onetwo | ENOUGH TRAILER PARK BOYS REFERENCES |
| 04:15.56 | onetwo | HES DOING APPLY FORCE! |
| 04:15.59 | RoarMan | P_R_Deltoid just get the formule for the cone boyeee. |
| 04:16.00 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 04:16.03 | P_R_Deltoid | that wasn't a tpb reference |
| 04:16.07 | onetwo | oh |
| 04:16.08 | P_R_Deltoid | but I see you saw what I meant earlier |
| 04:16.12 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:16.16 | onetwo | guys |
| 04:16.17 | P_R_Deltoid | Watch the second video |
| 04:16.18 | P_R_Deltoid | ;) |
| 04:16.19 | onetwo | 3pm fight at the flag pole |
| 04:16.24 | onetwo | me and deltoid |
| 04:16.38 | onetwo | winner gets to kiss prozaic |
| 04:16.43 | onetwo | but either way apply force tut is being done |
| 04:16.57 | RoarMan | Oh cool. |
| 04:17.08 | P_R_Deltoid | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGNjeeKBKtA&feature=related |
| 04:17.11 | ProzaicMuze | @.@ |
| 04:17.11 | P_R_Deltoid | this is pretty great too |
| 04:17.15 | P_R_Deltoid | just the first like 30 seconds |
| 04:17.25 | ProzaicMuze | how about you two guys dont' suck/kiss my anything |
| 04:17.35 | ProzaicMuze | Now if you was a lady with them lady parts, we might be talkin' |
| 04:17.35 | P_R_Deltoid | How about those cheeseburgers? |
| 04:17.39 | onetwo | okay in exchange to knockback |
| 04:17.41 | P_R_Deltoid | Damn |
| 04:17.45 | AxlYin | is the sc2 server going down? |
| 04:17.46 | P_R_Deltoid | now is when it pays to be a girl, I guess |
| 04:17.46 | onetwo | how about if i get you lady gaga |
| 04:17.48 | onetwo | itll be a toss up |
| 04:17.49 | P_R_Deltoid | starcraft II tutorials |
| 04:17.55 | ProzaicMuze | lewww |
| 04:18.02 | ProzaicMuze | lada gaga isn't a woman at all |
| 04:18.12 | ProzaicMuze | she's hung like a horse! That's how messed up that shim is! |
| 04:18.32 | AxlYin | ogod my net flopped |
| 04:18.55 | ProzaicMuze | And the irony is, I take the top TWO or THREE tutorials |
| 04:18.59 | ProzaicMuze | Meaning both of your tutorials could win lol |
| 04:19.13 | onetwo | kind of like your map Axlyin? |
| 04:19.17 | onetwo | *crowd cheers* |
| 04:19.19 | onetwo | leaves |
| 04:19.25 | onetwo | <3 |
| 04:19.31 | AxlYin | considering it's not done |
| 04:19.31 | AxlYin | lol |
| 04:19.37 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:19.40 | onetwo | ProzaicMuze |
| 04:19.42 | onetwo | oh so idealistic |
| 04:19.49 | onetwo | maybe in your perfect world both will get done |
| 04:19.54 | AxlYin | ok night guys gotta get up in 6 hours x.x |
| 04:19.56 | onetwo | but quite frankly |
| 04:20.01 | onetwo | dont do his |
| 04:20.03 | onetwo | bye axlyin |
| 04:22.05 | Sixen | Does anyone know if the path for Extinction has been updated? |
| 04:22.30 | P_R_Deltoid | what does that even mean |
| 04:23.42 | onetwo | sixen was just wondering if he could mod some ssds to run in conjunction with HDD's without hotswiping |
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| 04:24.14 | Sixen | lol |
| 04:24.20 | Sixen | The path to the Extinction cache |
| 04:24.36 | onetwo | :O |
| 04:25.23 | LordAbyss | i should probably make my creature video soon |
| 04:26.09 | onetwo | is it a sexual harassment panda? |
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| 04:27.01 | LordAbyss | no |
| 04:27.05 | LordAbyss | its a disco ball of doom |
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| 04:28.26 | LordAbyss | im also going to make sure i work on my map some |
| 04:28.34 | LordAbyss | make it almost ready and complete for when heroes are done |
| 04:29.35 | onetwo | oh man im thinking about how cool this will be |
| 04:29.43 | onetwo | my quick strike ability does Melee type dmg |
| 04:29.52 | onetwo | so if my hero collects +damage items |
| 04:29.59 | onetwo | err plus +attribute |
| 04:30.01 | onetwo | that add to damage |
| 04:30.03 | onetwo | itll affect the spell to |
| 04:30.05 | onetwo | on top of his weapon |
| 04:30.09 | onetwo | too* |
| 04:30.21 | onetwo | only thing that i cant really think of is how to make items affect healing |
| 04:30.28 | onetwo | unless you made negative spell dmg spell |
| 04:30.33 | onetwo | isntead of modify unit effect |
| 04:31.10 | slightlyrandom | That's pretty damn awesome |
| 04:31.58 | slightlyrandom | Hm, there a post on sc2mapster that'll tell me how to fix my leaderboard texture in three simple steps? I don't want to have to think, and google isn't helping |
| 04:32.55 | Sixen | lol |
| 04:33.01 | Sixen | I don't think anyone's figured that out yet. |
| 04:33.28 | slightlyrandom | Really? |
| 04:33.38 | Sixen | Don't t hink so |
| 04:33.45 | onetwo | theres textures youd have to override i guess |
| 04:33.46 | slightlyrandom | I saw a lot of chatter about it a few days ago, figured they had reached some sort of conclusion |
| 04:33.53 | onetwo | like screen buttons bugged out too, but we can set screen buttons' border images |
| 04:34.01 | onetwo | so i used a diff button's dds that was still in editor |
| 04:34.07 | onetwo | leaderboards are a bit harder |
| 04:34.15 | onetwo | slightlyrandom |
| 04:34.17 | onetwo | try going on bnet |
| 04:34.19 | onetwo | find a top ranked map |
| 04:34.21 | onetwo | that has working leaderboard |
| 04:34.23 | onetwo | then open it |
| 04:34.27 | onetwo | if any do |
| 04:34.36 | slightlyrandom | Guess you're right |
| 04:34.43 | slightlyrandom | I'll go take a poke on there, then |
| 04:34.48 | LordAbyss | yea my 2 leaderboards and timer are ewwww |
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| 04:36.05 | onetwo | hey if you duplicate an actor and check off model |
| 04:36.08 | onetwo | it doesnt link model correctly |
| 04:36.15 | slightlyrandom | Heh, that would be easier if there was anything but ChessCraft on Europe |
| 04:36.15 | onetwo | you have to go find it manually after |
| 04:36.25 | onetwo | yeah theres one on US too |
| 04:36.36 | slightlyrandom | Well, that's the only custom map online |
| 04:36.37 | onetwo | i hope we get some good TD's, rpgs, and cool ideas |
| 04:36.38 | onetwo | on release |
| 04:36.49 | onetwo | im not a huge fan of arenas/micro/composition wars |
| 04:36.50 | onetwo | type games |
| 04:36.51 | onetwo | personally |
| 04:37.01 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 04:37.12 | slightlyrandom | Well, I hope to contribute to the TD part of the equation |
| 04:37.21 | onetwo | :D |
| 04:37.42 | slightlyrandom | Hopefully someone will take my work and make it into a good map |
| 04:38.04 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 04:38.34 | slightlyrandom | Well, I guess we'll have to live with broken timers and leaderboards for the time being, then |
| 04:39.10 | Sixen | Monltyh Ridge... |
| 04:39.14 | Sixen | That's an old map, they just renamed it. |
| 04:39.37 | Barter | yep, there are no new maps |
| 04:40.44 | Sixen | hm |
| 04:40.47 | Sixen | They renamed two maps? |
| 04:41.04 | Sixen | Tarsonis Assault used to be something also |
| 04:41.04 | Barter | I think so |
| 04:44.04 | Sixen | hm |
| 04:44.14 | Sixen | Should I drop the older versions of those maps within my "Official Maps pack"? |
| 04:44.17 | Sixen | Or keep them all? |
| 04:45.35 | onetwo | meh on release itll change again |
| 04:45.38 | onetwo | id just keep it the same as blizz |
| 04:45.58 | Sixen | So you don't think I should include the older versions of the maps? |
| 04:46.04 | Sixen | Tarsonis Assault *was* coalition |
| 04:46.13 | Sixen | Monlyth Ridge *was* Decena |
| 04:47.09 | onetwo | i think you should form a coalition to decenate those older maps |
| 04:47.10 | onetwo | so yeah |
| 04:47.12 | onetwo | only keep new ones |
| 04:48.23 | P_R_Deltoid | eye of a shiticane, haha |
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| 04:49.01 | P_R_Deltoid | anyone wanna play 2s |
| 04:49.03 | P_R_Deltoid | I am bored |
| 04:49.06 | P_R_Deltoid | bored bored bored |
| 04:49.08 | Triceron | no |
| 04:49.10 | Triceron | sc2 sucks |
| 04:49.14 | P_R_Deltoid | You suck |
| 04:49.19 | P_R_Deltoid | I didn't wanna 2s with you anyways |
| 04:49.31 | onetwo | prozaic how can you do a tutorial for someone who gets into fights with everyone |
| 04:49.32 | Triceron | I would've backstabbed you anyway |
| 04:49.33 | onetwo | vote for mine |
| 04:49.54 | onetwo | *grins fakely* |
| 04:50.05 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 04:50.21 | Triceron | who gets into fights with everyone? |
| 04:50.45 | Triceron | Muze is so nice, he doesn't fight anybone! |
| 04:50.46 | onetwo | deltoid |
| 04:50.48 | Triceron | anyone too |
| 04:50.50 | Triceron | oh |
| 04:50.54 | Triceron | yeah that deltoid guy's a dick |
| 04:50.56 | onetwo | its cause hes slept with half the staff |
| 04:51.11 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 04:51.14 | Sixen | Half? |
| 04:51.15 | Triceron | nothing wrong with free handjobs |
| 04:51.16 | Sixen | ;) |
| 04:51.24 | onetwo | i can spread rumors faster than an old lady in a european village |
| 04:51.26 | ProzaicMuze | I don't half-ass it |
| 04:51.32 | ProzaicMuze | It's all or nuttin'! |
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| 04:52.38 | Triceron | "Welcome our newest staff member - Unwashed smelly homeless guy |
| 04:53.05 | P_R_Deltoid | man |
| 04:53.10 | P_R_Deltoid | I would have back stabbed you first |
| 04:53.15 | P_R_Deltoid | because I am the better back stabber |
| 04:53.51 | Triceron | I would've called your loc at start and call out every unit you're making in All speak |
| 04:54.01 | LordAbyss | are dialog boxes bugged like leaderboards? |
| 04:54.08 | onetwo | no |
| 04:54.11 | onetwo | they have custom art now |
| 04:54.20 | onetwo | for each race |
| 04:54.22 | LordAbyss | cool |
| 04:54.23 | onetwo | like loading bars |
| 04:56.26 | P_R_Deltoid | Triceron, I would have planetary fortress rushed you before you knew wtf was going on |
| 04:56.57 | Triceron | hahahaha planetary fortress |
| 04:57.04 | Triceron | try worker rushing |
| 04:57.13 | Triceron | I wouldn't have let you land |
| 04:57.43 | Triceron | I woulda pinged the minimap so hard you would see how pro my APM is |
| 04:59.07 | ProzaicMuze | Bah, I need to get with a jazz trio again. |
| 04:59.11 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLOglnjC6iY |
| 04:59.12 | ProzaicMuze | good song |
| 04:59.12 | Sixen | Hm |
| 04:59.21 | Sixen | Anyone think the Creature Contest needs to be extneded again? |
| 04:59.34 | ProzaicMuze | I think another couple days would be nice |
| 04:59.38 | ProzaicMuze | especially due to the EU server issues |
| 04:59.50 | ProzaicMuze | If that hadn't happened it would have been fine, but that really borked EU mappers. |
| 05:00.32 | Sixen | Hrm, very true. |
| 05:00.42 | Sixen | 14th will be the last day. |
| 05:02.06 | Triceron | creature contest = attachment fest? |
| 05:02.50 | Sixen | kinda :P |
| 05:03.09 | LordAbyss | hehe |
| 05:03.21 | LordAbyss | i got atleast 16 attachments |
| 05:03.22 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 05:03.26 | LordAbyss | with around 60 actors |
| 05:03.42 | ProzaicMuze | Well, my final two submissions will be attachment heavy and attachment light |
| 05:04.12 | ProzaicMuze | Since a lot of people tried to write off the contest as "attachment whores" |
| 05:04.15 | ProzaicMuze | Which simply isn't true at all :( |
| 05:05.07 | LordAbyss | sure mine has alot of attachments, but there is some theme to it :) |
| 05:05.08 | slightlyrandom | There is a such a thing as aesthetics |
| 05:05.15 | slightlyrandom | A fuckton of bling ain't it |
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| 05:05.34 | Sixen | Prozaic, think two more days should be good? |
| 05:06.01 | LordAbyss | i vote /yes |
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| 05:06.03 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah |
| 05:06.11 | ProzaicMuze | that's days including tomorrow |
| 05:06.16 | greg | prozaic |
| 05:06.21 | greg | quick question |
| 05:06.33 | ProzaicMuze | the answer is 12 |
| 05:06.37 | ProzaicMuze | you're welcome |
| 05:06.39 | greg | =O |
| 05:06.46 | ProzaicMuze | 3 days* lol |
| 05:06.48 | ProzaicMuze | forgot the number |
| 05:06.48 | ProzaicMuze | doh |
| 05:07.02 | ProzaicMuze | But yeah, I think that's plenty of time Sixen. |
| 05:07.15 | Sixen | ;) |
| 05:07.22 | greg | to select a builder from a tavern in the beginning of the game i gave the player a share ability with 500 range so he can train a unit without having to be right next to it |
| 05:07.29 | greg | (because you have no units at the beginning of the game) |
| 05:07.51 | greg | unfortunately, to have access to the gold mine at the middle of the map you also need the share ability |
| 05:08.05 | greg | so the builders can also access the abilities on the gold mine |
| 05:08.20 | greg | this should not be. preferably i want it so that only the titan can see the command card of the gold mine |
| 05:08.22 | Sixen | Prozaic, nice work tutorial, btw. |
| 05:08.44 | greg | as of right now i have target filters so the heal and teleport only work on the titan |
| 05:08.57 | greg | but players can still right click to de-activate auto casting and see the command card in general |
| 05:08.58 | Sixen | vjeux was in the process of adding a <<triggers>> markup to wikicreole so you don't have to do that by hand btw |
| 05:09.09 | greg | any ideas? |
| 05:09.10 | Sixen | he'll be back he 14th iirc |
| 05:09.49 | ProzaicMuze | lol well I've already turned the tutorial into a template with my own coding software. So I just type it in how I want and it'll spit out the code. It's makeshift until he does his thing :) |
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| 05:10.28 | Bifuu | lol |
| 05:10.34 | Bifuu | thats what i did a while back |
| 05:10.38 | Bifuu | for the xmls |
| 05:10.43 | ProzaicMuze | @Greg - the command card on the titan? Or the giant crystal in the middle? |
| 05:10.44 | Bifuu | but it sucked |
| 05:11.03 | greg | giant crystal |
| 05:11.04 | ProzaicMuze | Lol well since all I really need is colors, it's not too bad :D |
| 05:11.36 | greg | TL;DR: since builders have access to the neutral building tavern at the beginning of the game they also have access to the neutral gold mine and more specifically the command card |
| 05:11.45 | greg | is there any way to make a share ability only work on specific buildings? |
| 05:12.01 | onetwo | [22:06] <ProzaicMuze> the answer is 12 |
| 05:12.03 | onetwo | i am the answer |
| 05:12.08 | greg | then who was phone |
| 05:12.31 | Reactorex | NUH UHN. |
| 05:12.36 | Reactorex | The answer is 42. |
| 05:12.39 | Reactorex | To eeeeeeverythiiing. |
| 05:12.41 | LordAbyss | whoa sixen, how dare you go to ASU |
| 05:12.59 | onetwo | ? |
| 05:13.03 | onetwo | where did he say this |
| 05:13.10 | LordAbyss | www.sixen.org |
| 05:13.24 | ProzaicMuze | @Greg - That is a interesting predicament |
| 05:13.58 | ProzaicMuze | So the center gold mine provides income, but you don't want them to be able to turn off the auto-cast ability? |
| 05:14.41 | greg | the central gold mine has abilities for the titan |
| 05:14.43 | greg | like heal and teleport |
| 05:14.52 | greg | because it's neutral the builders can also see the command card |
| 05:15.04 | greg | because they have a share ability that is required for using the tavern at the beginning of the game |
| 05:15.18 | ProzaicMuze | Got that part |
| 05:15.30 | ProzaicMuze | but for the healing, just make it a Behavior - Buff for the building |
| 05:15.46 | ProzaicMuze | This makes it constant and you can make a validator so it only applies to the Titan unit |
| 05:15.47 | Reactorex | Sooo |
| 05:15.53 | Reactorex | I'm interested in this rpg. :O |
| 05:16.01 | Reactorex | tellmemoar. xD |
| 05:16.11 | Sixen | Sorry, Abyss |
| 05:16.12 | Sixen | :P |
| 05:16.20 | LordAbyss | im going to UA this next year |
| 05:16.27 | Sixen | PFFT |
| 05:16.31 | ProzaicMuze | Similar to how passive abilities work on heroes |
| 05:16.32 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPmZtthQXl4 |
| 05:16.39 | onetwo | its like that but not at all |
| 05:16.42 | onetwo | :D |
| 05:16.47 | ProzaicMuze | The icon isn't clickable, but you can see what the ability does and it functions on its own. |
| 05:16.48 | LordAbyss | grow up around here? |
| 05:16.54 | greg | prozaicmuze: i already am using a validator but you can still right click on the heal to turn off auto cast |
| 05:16.55 | ProzaicMuze | This will prevent the players from interferring with the healing. |
| 05:16.58 | Sixen | I moved here my Frosh year of HS. |
| 05:17.02 | onetwo | i want to do private testing, but might not be till release |
| 05:17.04 | Sixen | I'm a Sopho at ASU now |
| 05:17.04 | ProzaicMuze | I know, that's what you change it from an ability to a behavior |
| 05:17.05 | onetwo | heroes taking forever Reactorexs |
| 05:17.08 | ProzaicMuze | Then it can't be auto-cast |
| 05:17.09 | onetwo | Reactorex* |
| 05:17.16 | LordAbyss | ever heard of Brophy College Prep? |
| 05:17.20 | ProzaicMuze | Instead it's periodically applied by the buff to any nearby "Titan" unit. |
| 05:17.21 | greg | but.. i want it to be auto cast? |
| 05:17.35 | greg | hm |
| 05:17.36 | ProzaicMuze | How is auto-cast functioning differently than the Behavior Buff? |
| 05:17.42 | ProzaicMuze | Do you need it to cost energy? |
| 05:21.46 | Barter | greg: you can make the gold mine uncommandable or w/e its called |
| 05:21.48 | LordAbyss | anyone wanna play some games? |
| 05:21.56 | greg | nah then the titan can't use it |
| 05:21.58 | greg | i think i fixed it |
| 05:22.02 | Barter | oh |
| 05:22.07 | Barter | hide the ability |
| 05:22.08 | greg | just made a blank upgrade called Has Builder |
| 05:22.15 | greg | and a requirement called Can Share |
| 05:22.32 | greg | then make the share ability require it |
| 05:22.49 | Bifuu | universities are for over achievers |
| 05:22.50 | greg | and make a trigger for when the players pick their ability they get the upgrade |
| 05:22.58 | greg | i dunno hopefully it will work.. testing it now |
| 05:22.58 | LordAbyss | lol |
| 05:23.17 | Bifuu | i lik my tech school |
| 05:23.32 | slightlyrandom | Hm, I don't like it when Blizzard fixes bugs without saying so. Means I have to rediscover the bug and remove my own fix :S |
| 05:23.38 | greg | pick their ability -> pick their builder* |
| 05:23.43 | LordAbyss | thankfully UA has a good engineering school :) |
| 05:23.54 | ProzaicMuze | College is for losers |
| 05:24.18 | LordAbyss | im a loser!!! |
| 05:24.35 | ProzaicMuze | Indeed you are |
| 05:24.46 | LoserAbyss | ;) |
| 05:25.10 | LordAbyss | i win |
| 05:25.22 | LoserAbyss | o you jerk |
| 05:25.28 | LordAbyss | xD |
| 05:25.47 | Bifuu | howd it feel to seem like you were plus'd |
| 05:25.48 | Bifuu | haha |
| 05:25.49 | LoserAbyss | plus everyone knows i don't have that funky + |
| 05:26.07 | ProzaicMuze | When am I gonna get a + or @ symbol? :( |
| 05:26.14 | ProzaicMuze | Pick me next! |
| 05:26.22 | LoserAbyss | whats the difference |
| 05:26.33 | Bifuu | + has no power |
| 05:26.44 | Bifuu | we just get set to the top of the list |
| 05:27.02 | Bemoliph | Voice does have a power |
| 05:27.02 | slightlyrandom | The only power + has, is people who don't have one can't talk if the mode is set to +m |
| 05:27.14 | Bemoliph | Except I got beaten to explaining it |
| 05:27.24 | LoserAbyss | lol |
| 05:27.46 | slightlyrandom | This is useful for interviews, where people with questions can be given temporary + (voice) to ask questions |
| 05:28.23 | Bemoliph | Also mass spammings and channels that require normal people to not talk for whatever reason |
| 05:28.30 | Bemoliph | Ever, I mean |
| 05:28.37 | ProzaicMuze | I shoudl just run my hack scripts and get myself teh @ powah :D |
| 05:29.07 | slightlyrandom | Then kickeveryone else and go to step 4 |
| 05:29.10 | slightlyrandom | Profit! |
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| 05:29.31 | Bemoliph | Well, I have seen channels where you are muted unless you are authed, for example |
| 05:29.37 | Bemoliph | So it would just be kinda a weird version of that |
| 05:36.23 | greg | LOL |
| 05:36.28 | greg | prozaicmuze |
| 05:36.38 | greg | so i made a requirement for the abilities and upgrades and shit |
| 05:36.46 | greg | just so builders couldn't deactiviate auto casting |
| 05:36.50 | greg | and now they're greyed out |
| 05:37.00 | greg | but apparently even when they're greyed out you can still deactivate auto casting |
| 05:37.11 | greg | sighhhhh |
| 05:37.53 | ProzaicMuze | :S |
| 05:37.55 | greg | i dunno.. maybe i can make the ability default to auto cast and then you can't change it |
| 05:37.59 | greg | is that possible? |
| 05:38.25 | greg | making something default to auto cast and then after that you can't right click on it to change it |
| 05:38.57 | ProzaicMuze | No idea, I've never tried. |
| 05:39.16 | ProzaicMuze | I typically just make a Behavior - Buff (Aura) if I want that kind of effect. |
| 05:39.51 | greg | hmm.. i'll try one more thing and if that doesn't work i'll try behaviors |
| 05:40.34 | RodOfNOD | slightlyrandom u could just stop using leaderboards and make ur own with the dialogs then if they break u can fix them easy :P |
| 05:43.11 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:43.50 | P_R_Deltoid | AND STAY OUT |
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| 05:49.48 | RedWraith | Does anyone know |
| 05:49.49 | RedWraith | if custom maps |
| 05:49.50 | RedWraith | count |
| 05:49.52 | RedWraith | for achievements? |
| 05:49.56 | RedWraith | i.e. fastest map ever? |
| 05:50.34 | Barter | uh, if its on melee mode, maybe |
| 05:50.41 | Barter | for the achievements that are for melee |
| 05:50.47 | Barter | instead of ladder |
| 05:50.52 | RedWraith | yeah |
| 05:50.54 | RedWraith | that's what I mean |
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| 05:52.29 | ekcolnvkol | ORAYAAAAAA |
| 05:52.39 | ekcolnovkol | karate kicks the door |
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| 05:59.34 | slightlyrandom | This, is confusing |
| 06:02.02 | slightlyrandom | When I try to construct something, the game crashes |
| 06:02.09 | slightlyrandom | and I have nooooo idea whats up |
| 06:07.38 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/temples-shrines/. The Temple's Shrines. ringgeest11 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 06:07.43 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/resurgence-base-d/. Resurgence Base D. SC2Ace (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 06:10.49 | slightlyrandom | This, is confusing |
| 06:16.46 | slightlyrandom | Oh, bloody hell |
| 06:18.40 | RedWraith | so apparently |
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| 06:18.42 | RedWraith | custom melee maps |
| 06:18.46 | RedWraith | are listed as customn |
| 06:18.49 | RedWraith | not melee |
| 06:18.49 | RedWraith | -- |
| 06:18.53 | slightlyrandom | Well, of course |
| 06:19.03 | RedWraith | and I was hoping to use that to get the Olaf portrait :( |
| 06:19.26 | RedWraith | though |
| 06:19.29 | RedWraith | it doesn't seem that bad |
| 06:19.29 | slightlyrandom | You can play custom melee and the wins count towards achievements ? |
| 06:19.32 | RedWraith | to beat them legitimately |
| 06:19.34 | RedWraith | no |
| 06:19.36 | RedWraith | they don't |
| 06:19.36 | RedWraith | :( |
| 06:19.43 | slightlyrandom | Good |
| 06:21.55 | onetwo | i wonder if theyll order items in data editor by proper numerical order |
| 06:22.04 | onetwo | like right now Spell Level 10 appears higher than Spell level 2 |
| 06:22.09 | onetwo | because 10 has a 1 |
| 06:22.11 | ekcolnovkol | 12 |
| 06:22.13 | ekcolnovkol | how in lord christ |
| 06:22.19 | ekcolnovkol | do i start a page for a map |
| 06:22.25 | onetwo | what |
| 06:22.35 | ekcolnovkol | like a development page |
| 06:22.39 | onetwo | ? |
| 06:22.40 | onetwo | ive never done that |
| 06:22.56 | slightlyrandom | Login, click maps |
| 06:23.00 | slightlyrandom | Top right corner, create new map |
| 06:23.13 | slightlyrandom | a page ? |
| 06:23.46 | slightlyrandom | Login, go to your maps page, click the menu thing on the right |
| 06:23.48 | slightlyrandom | Create Page |
| 06:23.53 | ekcolnovkol | don't see it |
| 06:24.05 | slightlyrandom | Take off your shades |
| 06:24.12 | ekcolnovkol | oh there it is |
| 06:34.55 | onetwo | there seems to be a bug with actor linking |
| 06:34.58 | onetwo | in the object explorer |
| 06:35.02 | onetwo | when i duplicate an actor |
| 06:35.08 | onetwo | it has the old as a related actor |
| 06:35.09 | onetwo | for some reason |
| 06:37.46 | onetwo | http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5181/oddjh.jpg |
| 06:37.57 | onetwo | duplicated sand storm effect to be poison powder area effect |
| 06:38.01 | onetwo | changed events and everything |
| 06:38.08 | onetwo | and somehow it is "linked" to the old sand storm effect |
| 06:38.16 | onetwo | even though they have no relation |
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| 06:45.42 | casperb | Or it's still linked somewhere :p |
| 06:45.50 | onetwo | havent found anything |
| 06:45.57 | onetwo | its happened with a few of my units and abilities |
| 06:46.00 | onetwo | not just actors |
| 06:46.03 | onetwo | after patch |
| 06:48.01 | onetwo | yeah its bugged |
| 06:48.03 | onetwo | to my knowledge |
| 06:49.14 | onetwo | my Roar ability knocks back and debuffs -armor to nearby targets (does Search effect->Set effect (Debuff -1armor & Persistent that pushes) |
| 06:49.30 | onetwo | but only search effect levels 1-10 appear |
| 06:49.39 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/terran-01-wasteland/. Terran 01 - Wasteland. Zeoinx (Manager/Author). Approved by grum. |
| 06:49.43 | onetwo | debuff, set, and persistent/push effects only show level 1 in object explorer |
| 06:49.52 | onetwo | where they used to show all 40 of them |
| 06:49.54 | onetwo | levels 1-10 |
| 06:49.56 | onetwo | :( |
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| 06:51.48 | Phaos_ | I'm actually kinda glad that the new patch corrupted my maps |
| 06:51.54 | onetwo | hah why |
| 06:52.19 | Phaos_ | well my project map needed a remake of the terrain anyway, and now I can't procrastinate |
| 06:52.25 | Phaos_ | now the new map has better use of space |
| 06:52.42 | Phaos_ | better use of textures |
| 06:52.50 | Phaos_ | and have made the campaign modular |
| 06:52.51 | onetwo | lol my editor crashes when i click my hero with object explorer |
| 06:52.52 | onetwo | now |
| 06:52.57 | onetwo | its a bug :D |
| 06:53.03 | Phaos_ | woot -_- |
| 06:53.09 | Phaos_ | that sucks :S |
| 06:53.11 | onetwo | just gotta turn it off |
| 06:53.16 | onetwo | i finished last ability anyway |
| 06:53.20 | onetwo | assassin now done |
| 06:53.22 | onetwo | 3/5 |
| 06:53.28 | onetwo | 2 to go |
| 06:55.26 | onetwo | also, my requiremnt text |
| 06:55.29 | onetwo | isnt showing anymore |
| 06:55.34 | onetwo | its defaulting and avoiding it |
| 06:55.55 | onetwo | "cant use this rank yet" just shows as "requires XX abil requires XX abil requires XX abil" 3 times |
| 06:55.59 | onetwo | ;p |
| 06:57.36 | onetwo | im at 172 behaviors and 388 effects |
| 06:57.37 | onetwo | for 3 heroes |
| 06:57.40 | onetwo | LOL |
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| 06:58.15 | Phaos_ | what I notice is that some things havn't so much been broken |
| 06:58.19 | Phaos_ | as they have been fixed |
| 06:58.32 | Phaos_ | thus the work arounds we are treating as normal break it :P |
| 07:00.07 | Phaos_ | work is going sloooooooow |
| 07:00.16 | Phaos_ | Want to get home and edit things |
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| 07:01.55 | onetwo | true phaos |
| 07:01.58 | onetwo | but i liked it before |
| 07:02.05 | onetwo | where if i click on my abil i saw EVERY linkedeffect |
| 07:02.16 | onetwo | now its just level 1 ones |
| 07:02.18 | onetwo | are showing |
| 07:02.24 | onetwo | even though i have 10 effects linked |
| 07:03.43 | onetwo | haha wow |
| 07:03.52 | onetwo | my spell is set to do 1 damage every sec for 5 secs |
| 07:03.58 | onetwo | but its spell dmg and my hero had 5 Wisdom |
| 07:04.01 | onetwo | which adds to spell dmg |
| 07:04.07 | onetwo | so it just owned insanely |
| 07:04.11 | onetwo | doing like 5 dmg/sec |
| 07:04.17 | onetwo | :D |
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| 07:09.53 | LordAbyss | hey onetwo, do you have a tutorial about cinematics that also covers some basic vegas stuff? |
| 07:10.24 | onetwo | na |
| 07:10.32 | onetwo | im sure theres others out there on that |
| 07:10.36 | onetwo | im trying to stay strict to sc2 |
| 07:10.39 | onetwo | ;) |
| 07:10.39 | LordAbyss | hmm ok |
| 07:10.42 | LordAbyss | haha |
| 07:10.48 | LordAbyss | guess ill have to work for that stuff |
| 07:10.53 | onetwo | :D |
| 07:10.55 | LordAbyss | first if i decide to make my own |
| 07:11.01 | LordAbyss | i have to work on my terraining |
| 07:11.02 | LordAbyss | first |
| 07:11.14 | onetwo | after using data editor |
| 07:11.16 | onetwo | anything is possible |
| 07:11.17 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:11.27 | LordAbyss | lol yea |
| 07:11.30 | LordAbyss | that thing is insanely complex |
| 07:11.32 | LordAbyss | im use to wc3 |
| 07:12.07 | onetwo | same |
| 07:12.10 | onetwo | so how do we do revive now |
| 07:12.14 | onetwo | data or triggers? |
| 07:12.17 | onetwo | i hear "its working" |
| 07:12.27 | LordAbyss | i don't know |
| 07:12.38 | LordAbyss | but i have to figure that out |
| 07:12.39 | LordAbyss | for my map |
| 07:13.42 | onetwo | same |
| 07:13.56 | LordAbyss | if i figure it out before you ill let you know |
| 07:14.08 | LordAbyss | least i could do haha |
| 07:15.16 | onetwo | I would like to be able to revive a hero using triggers, but there's no action for it. Allthough there is a native for it: native void UnitRevive (unit inUnit); |
| 07:15.20 | onetwo | thats from a forum post |
| 07:15.26 | onetwo | then someone said (75 days later mind you) |
| 07:15.30 | onetwo | Didn't want to revive this but didn't really want to create another topic just to say that the UnitRevive function mentioned above is working now, just use it in a custom script to revive units using triggers, or in galaxy |
| 07:15.38 | LordAbyss | do you actually use code or what the gui provides |
| 07:15.39 | onetwo | theres no revive action |
| 07:15.42 | onetwo | but ill see |
| 07:15.44 | onetwo | i use GUI |
| 07:15.47 | onetwo | but we might have to script |
| 07:15.48 | onetwo | this one |
| 07:15.51 | LordAbyss | yea |
| 07:16.02 | LordAbyss | atleast after taking my java class i understand code a little more |
| 07:16.32 | onetwo | UnitRevive (unit inUnit); |
| 07:16.35 | onetwo | how would i do that |
| 07:16.36 | onetwo | from triggers |
| 07:16.39 | onetwo | can i run a galaxy line |
| 07:16.40 | onetwo | in trggers? |
| 07:16.43 | onetwo | anyone? |
| 07:16.52 | LordAbyss | let me pull up a map really fast |
| 07:16.56 | LordAbyss | ill look and see if i can find anything |
| 07:17.24 | LordAbyss | btw, i keep hearing multiple editor names |
| 07:17.36 | LordAbyss | galaxy editor is the one blizzard provides for sc2 right |
| 07:17.40 | LordAbyss | world editor is wc3 |
| 07:17.48 | onetwo | yes |
| 07:18.07 | LordAbyss | and milky way is some editor people are making? |
| 07:18.12 | Phaos_ | if anything |
| 07:18.22 | onetwo | yes |
| 07:18.26 | onetwo | okay i found an action |
| 07:18.29 | onetwo | called Custom Script |
| 07:18.31 | Phaos_ | it will probably be a creaunit ability which revives heros marked as dead |
| 07:18.33 | onetwo | which lets us write galaxy |
| 07:18.35 | onetwo | in triggers |
| 07:18.36 | onetwo | i thin |
| 07:18.43 | onetwo | k |
| 07:19.02 | LordAbyss | if it works anything like wc3 |
| 07:19.04 | LordAbyss | it should work |
| 07:19.12 | LordAbyss | you would use that to remove some things |
| 07:19.17 | LordAbyss | to prevent memory leaks |
| 07:19.21 | LordAbyss | now my question is |
| 07:19.26 | LordAbyss | do we have to worry about that in sc2 |
| 07:19.56 | onetwo | no |
| 07:20.03 | onetwo | its much better now |
| 07:20.07 | LordAbyss | cool |
| 07:20.13 | onetwo | damn my custom script failed |
| 07:20.16 | onetwo | didnt compile |
| 07:20.18 | LordAbyss | btw, where did you get the native list |
| 07:20.25 | LordAbyss | and what was the custom code you have? |
| 07:20.35 | onetwo | in actions |
| 07:20.36 | onetwo | looks like |
| 07:20.37 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:20.42 | onetwo | the actual text for the custom script is |
| 07:20.46 | onetwo | UnitRevive (dieingHero); |
| 07:20.52 | onetwo | and dieingHero is a local variable i made |
| 07:20.56 | onetwo | based on dieing unit aka triggering unit |
| 07:21.00 | LordAbyss | k |
| 07:21.03 | onetwo | im probably doing this completely wrong |
| 07:21.44 | casperb | onetwo custom script block is just that, a custom script block |
| 07:22.07 | casperb | first defined == first generated |
| 07:22.19 | onetwo | so how does that help me |
| 07:22.20 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:22.24 | casperb | it doesn't? :P |
| 07:22.36 | onetwo | UnitRevive(dieingUnit); |
| 07:22.37 | onetwo | doesnt work |
| 07:22.42 | onetwo | what does first defined mean |
| 07:22.44 | onetwo | first generated |
| 07:22.58 | casperb | GUI generates a XML definition file |
| 07:23.01 | casperb | which generates the code |
| 07:23.02 | onetwo | okay |
| 07:23.10 | casperb | So order does matter sometimes ;) |
| 07:23.29 | casperb | And it matters with custom code, since parser is one pass |
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| 07:23.41 | casperb | Anyways pastie the code |
| 07:23.43 | casperb | I'll fix it :p |
| 07:24.11 | onetwo | its all in triggers |
| 07:24.12 | onetwo | http://pastebin.com/xbLQT8q2 |
| 07:24.16 | onetwo | i must just be doing it completely wrong |
| 07:24.26 | onetwo | dieingUnit is raw name for local var |
| 07:25.00 | onetwo | native void UnitRevive (unit inUnit); |
| 07:25.03 | onetwo | im assuming that exists |
| 07:25.06 | onetwo | cause someone said it did |
| 07:26.04 | casperb | Hm well, unit is already gone in that trigger t ho |
| 07:26.06 | casperb | tho * |
| 07:26.52 | LordAbyss | im thinking its not working yet |
| 07:27.00 | onetwo | someone said it did on sc2mapster |
| 07:27.06 | onetwo | well atleast the function worked pre patch 16 |
| 07:27.10 | onetwo | regardless if it didnt spawn hero properly |
| 07:27.12 | onetwo | the function compiled |
| 07:27.22 | casperb | Just to nitpick, why not initialize directly to EventUnit? |
| 07:27.23 | LordAbyss | well i went into the script |
| 07:27.37 | onetwo | i just want it to work |
| 07:27.40 | casperb | Rather than dyingUnit = null; dyingUnit = EventUnit(); |
| 07:27.40 | onetwo | wth is eventunit |
| 07:27.45 | onetwo | oh cause |
| 07:27.49 | casperb | Triggering Unit |
| 07:27.49 | onetwo | of the condition |
| 07:27.58 | onetwo | id rather not waste memory |
| 07:28.03 | onetwo | if it doesnt pass condition |
| 07:28.06 | onetwo | right? |
| 07:28.07 | casperb | wasting just as much memory :p |
| 07:28.11 | casperb | conditions are checked inside the function |
| 07:28.13 | onetwo | even if its set to null? |
| 07:28.15 | casperb | below local declarations |
| 07:28.26 | casperb | yeah event unit might return null so |
| 07:28.49 | casperb | And it's just a reference, no copy takes place |
| 07:28.58 | LordAbyss | i had the trigger actually revive a unit directly placed on map |
| 07:29.02 | LordAbyss | and it doesn't compile either |
| 07:29.26 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/541-reviving-a-hero/ |
| 07:29.33 | onetwo | it seemed to compile for these people |
| 07:29.59 | onetwo | okay its not our problem |
| 07:30.08 | onetwo | i just changed the custom script to be exactly the same as |
| 07:30.11 | onetwo | the Wait function |
| 07:30.14 | onetwo | and it wont compile |
| 07:30.18 | LordAbyss | actually none of them said it works |
| 07:30.29 | onetwo | lordabyss |
| 07:30.34 | onetwo | the actual reviving pre-patch 16 didnt work |
| 07:30.38 | onetwo | reviving works now |
| 07:30.45 | onetwo | just we have to do it through galaxy |
| 07:30.55 | onetwo | because this custom script thing is new with patch 16 as well |
| 07:31.00 | onetwo | and THATS what doesnt appear to be working in our case |
| 07:31.03 | onetwo | this is my understanding now |
| 07:31.09 | onetwo | revive works, custom script doesnt |
| 07:31.29 | LordAbyss | which means its impossible to do it via triggers? |
| 07:31.30 | onetwo | wait nvm |
| 07:31.33 | onetwo | got it working now |
| 07:31.36 | onetwo | with Wait |
| 07:31.38 | onetwo | hmm |
| 07:31.48 | LordAbyss | can i see the code? |
| 07:32.00 | casperb | custom script isn't new, raw blocks in libraries is new :p |
| 07:32.01 | onetwo | INTERESTING |
| 07:32.07 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:32.08 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.09 | onetwo | works |
| 07:32.13 | onetwo | so its related to our local var |
| 07:33.15 | casperb | compiles fine here |
| 07:33.26 | casperb | void foo_func() { UnitRevive( EventUnit() ); } |
| 07:33.32 | onetwo | UnitRevive(EventUnit) doesnt work |
| 07:33.35 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:33.37 | onetwo | event unit has brackets |
| 07:33.38 | casperb | function |
| 07:33.40 | onetwo | interesting tid bit you left out |
| 07:33.40 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:33.49 | casperb | Ah, it's a function :P |
| 07:33.54 | LordAbyss | event unit = triggering unit? |
| 07:34.01 | casperb | yeah |
| 07:34.06 | onetwo | k |
| 07:34.10 | onetwo | so this works now |
| 07:34.13 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:34.16 | casperb | But does it work work |
| 07:34.17 | onetwo | BUT |
| 07:34.19 | onetwo | BUT |
| 07:34.23 | LordAbyss | ok now what about multiple units dying |
| 07:34.24 | onetwo | because i have a wait condition |
| 07:34.25 | onetwo | of 30 secs |
| 07:34.27 | LordAbyss | with a wait feature |
| 07:34.28 | onetwo | i need to have it store the unit |
| 07:34.33 | onetwo | or itll be forgotten |
| 07:34.33 | onetwo | right? |
| 07:34.51 | casperb | Well, you'll get what we call "undefined behaviour" :P |
| 07:34.52 | onetwo | because ive had triggers before with waits, and if i didnt store the triggering unit in a var |
| 07:34.52 | LordAbyss | does it take in account multiple instances of the trigger, onetwo as long as its only one unit revive dying at once it should be fine |
| 07:34.53 | onetwo | it would disappear |
| 07:35.03 | onetwo | itll work for all instances |
| 07:35.04 | casperb | in other words, we have no freaking clue because it's always different and undocumetned |
| 07:35.04 | onetwo | lordabyss |
| 07:35.07 | onetwo | k |
| 07:35.10 | onetwo | thanks a ton casperb |
| 07:35.14 | onetwo | well, how would i do a custom script |
| 07:35.17 | onetwo | to make a local var |
| 07:35.20 | onetwo | to = eventunit |
| 07:35.23 | onetwo | just to be safe |
| 07:35.37 | casperb | onetwo: yeah store in a local var, otherwise you'll be prone to race conditions |
| 07:36.01 | casperb | But what happends with the actual unit data, is up to the engine :/ |
| 07:36.47 | onetwo | yeah so how do i do that with custom scripts? |
| 07:36.55 | onetwo | because my script cant recognize my trigger based local var |
| 07:37.08 | casperb | sure it can |
| 07:37.11 | LordAbyss | lv_test |
| 07:37.17 | casperb | lv_dyingUnit |
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| 07:37.25 | onetwo | heres raw data for local var |
| 07:37.25 | Phaos_ | I'm going to take a look when I get home, but as I understand it, you should be able to do full revives through the data ed alone. including saved inventory, exp, and abilities |
| 07:37.26 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:37.30 | onetwo | so how would i reference that |
| 07:37.31 | onetwo | in function |
| 07:37.32 | onetwo | of revive |
| 07:37.33 | onetwo | ? |
| 07:37.36 | onetwo | lv_dieingHero ? |
| 07:37.40 | casperb | yep |
| 07:37.45 | onetwo | this is easier Phaos |
| 07:37.52 | onetwo | one line in triggers > an ability with headaches |
| 07:38.07 | Phaos_ | :P |
| 07:38.09 | LordAbyss | i would like to know how that is done phaos if you still plan on doing it |
| 07:38.10 | Phaos_ | fair enough |
| 07:38.19 | onetwo | agreed |
| 07:38.21 | onetwo | k it compiled |
| 07:38.22 | onetwo | lets find out |
| 07:39.19 | casperb | Probally does nothing at all :p |
| 07:39.40 | LordAbyss | haha now mine is returning an error on |
| 07:39.45 | LordAbyss | return true; >.> |
| 07:40.09 | casperb | Question, GUI is bugged, and you can't write libs in galaxy, wtf am i going to do -.- |
| 07:41.17 | onetwo | does nothing |
| 07:41.19 | onetwo | no unit came back |
| 07:42.00 | casperb | try unit takes fatal damage with no delay |
| 07:42.07 | onetwo | k |
| 07:42.30 | casperb | if that doesn't work it's safe to say it's not implemented o.o |
| 07:42.52 | onetwo | k |
| 07:43.52 | casperb | Which means blizzard is just mean! :P |
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| 07:44.55 | Phaos_ | yeah I'll figure it out when I get home :) |
| 07:45.52 | LordAbyss | will you make a post or something? |
| 07:46.00 | LordAbyss | i just want to make sure i don't miss it if you type it out |
| 07:46.53 | onetwo | na i dont think it worked |
| 07:47.01 | onetwo | plus it doesnt even specificy a respawn point |
| 07:47.33 | onetwo | im just gonna store the items in a unit group |
| 07:47.35 | onetwo | the experience |
| 07:47.37 | onetwo | the abilities |
| 07:47.45 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:47.50 | onetwo | then respawn and give |
| 07:48.09 | LordAbyss | haha create a new unit each time |
| 07:48.48 | onetwo | actually screw that |
| 07:48.51 | onetwo | unless we can give exp now |
| 07:49.03 | onetwo | id have to do a stupid loop of applying an add exp buff |
| 07:49.07 | onetwo | like i do for hero loading |
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| 07:49.19 | LordAbyss | haha |
| 07:49.27 | LordAbyss | anyone wanna play a few games? |
| 07:50.14 | casperb | 1v1? :p |
| 07:50.17 | onetwo | i give up |
| 07:50.20 | onetwo | Phaos its up to you |
| 07:50.29 | LordAbyss | i prefer team but i can do a 1v1 |
| 07:50.30 | LordAbyss | if you want |
| 07:50.49 | casperb | # and which region? :) |
| 07:50.53 | LordAbyss | us |
| 07:50.54 | onetwo | i like how several people say: "oh yeah hero revive works" |
| 07:50.57 | onetwo | then we have no idea |
| 07:50.59 | casperb | got both so :p |
| 07:51.01 | onetwo | wtf |
| 07:51.01 | Barter | onetwo: the respawn function already gives the exp/abilities etc |
| 07:51.02 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:51.06 | LordAbyss | tyrannical.543 |
| 07:51.09 | onetwo | respawn function? |
| 07:51.10 | onetwo | whats that? |
| 07:51.12 | onetwo | data editor? |
| 07:51.13 | onetwo | trigger? |
| 07:51.20 | Barter | well both |
| 07:51.25 | onetwo | cause trigger one didnt work for me |
| 07:51.36 | Barter | how did you use it? it works for me |
| 07:51.43 | onetwo | unit dies |
| 07:51.48 | onetwo | UnitRevive(dieingHero) |
| 07:51.52 | onetwo | didnt work ingame |
| 07:51.56 | onetwo | okay so i changed to to unit takes fatal damage |
| 07:51.58 | onetwo | tried same thing |
| 07:52.00 | onetwo | didnt work |
| 07:52.14 | Barter | well, you have to change some values on the unit too I think |
| 07:52.19 | onetwo | ? |
| 07:52.20 | onetwo | oh |
| 07:52.25 | onetwo | see theres the hidden thing |
| 07:52.27 | onetwo | no one says |
| 07:52.27 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:52.37 | Barter | :P |
| 07:52.41 | onetwo | ah fuck i clicked my hero |
| 07:52.41 | Barter | lemme see what it is |
| 07:52.44 | onetwo | with object explorer on |
| 07:52.45 | onetwo | gg |
| 07:52.58 | onetwo | lol |
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| 07:53.29 | Barter | death time, set it to -1 |
| 07:53.38 | Barter | I think thats it |
| 07:53.46 | onetwo | mines set to 45 |
| 07:53.48 | onetwo | but ill try -1 |
| 07:53.56 | onetwo | also, does revive bring back full hp? |
| 07:53.58 | onetwo | through trigger |
| 07:54.05 | Barter | no, you have to heal it |
| 07:54.13 | Barter | it revives at 1hp where it died |
| 07:54.18 | Barter | so you need to move and heal |
| 07:54.52 | onetwo | k |
| 07:55.16 | Barter | it brings it back all fine, the problem is that items drop on death |
| 07:55.19 | onetwo | okay death time got reset to 0 |
| 07:55.21 | onetwo | for all my heroes |
| 07:55.26 | onetwo | yeah |
| 07:55.29 | onetwo | i have that issue too |
| 07:55.39 | onetwo | only my equipment does |
| 07:56.03 | Barter | on a normal slot they dont? |
| 07:56.20 | onetwo | i dont think so |
| 07:56.22 | onetwo | i forget |
| 07:56.27 | Barter | huh |
| 07:57.18 | onetwo | ill have to check |
| 07:57.40 | Phaos_ | YeahI'll post my findings |
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| 07:57.49 | Phaos_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:57.55 | onetwo | it shocks me that were having trouble with this |
| 07:57.59 | onetwo | if theyve finished campaign already |
| 07:58.05 | onetwo | how did they do it |
| 07:58.05 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:58.36 | Barter | I guess they dont need this kind of stuff |
| 07:58.48 | Barter | dont use rather |
| 07:59.04 | onetwo | or they have a diff editor |
| 07:59.08 | onetwo | :D |
| 07:59.24 | Barter | yeh :P |
| 08:00.05 | Barter | got the revive working? |
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| 08:02.23 | onetwo | k the hero has -1 death time |
| 08:02.35 | onetwo | when he dies |
| 08:02.36 | onetwo | i ran |
| 08:02.38 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:02.48 | onetwo | didnt work |
| 08:02.56 | Barter | hmm |
| 08:03.03 | Barter | thats exactly what I do |
| 08:03.18 | Barter | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:03.25 | onetwo | hm |
| 08:04.30 | ekcolnovkol | woot i beat maul |
| 08:04.32 | ekcolnovkol | >:D |
| 08:05.19 | onetwo | Barter |
| 08:05.23 | onetwo | revive time and revive delay |
| 08:05.24 | onetwo | are both 0 |
| 08:05.27 | onetwo | that good? |
| 08:05.44 | Barter | yep same for my hero |
| 08:06.01 | onetwo | whats the event |
| 08:06.02 | onetwo | for your dieing trigger |
| 08:06.26 | Barter | any unit dies, and condition is a hero |
| 08:06.46 | onetwo | wow same |
| 08:06.46 | onetwo | k |
| 08:07.20 | slightlyrandom | ekcolnovkol: Maul TD or maul the person? :P |
| 08:08.21 | Maul | both |
| 08:08.32 | Maul | shakes fist in rage |
| 08:08.43 | Barter | try that onetwo, just walk on the thors |
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| 08:09.29 | onetwo | barter: what? |
| 08:09.36 | onetwo | walk on thors? |
| 08:09.44 | Barter | i pm'd you |
| 08:09.47 | Barter | didnt I |
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| 08:10.19 | slightlyrandom | Maul, got a connection to the old Mauls? Wintermaul, or whatever his name was |
| 08:10.41 | Sixen | ~seen motive |
| 08:10.42 | purl | motive <~Motive@c-68-39-176-236.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 15d 12h 15m 59s ago, saying: 'Lol'. |
| 08:10.47 | Sixen | *sigh* |
| 08:10.50 | Sixen | Where has Motive been? |
| 08:11.21 | onetwo | thx Barter |
| 08:11.26 | onetwo | i copy pasted your triogger |
| 08:11.27 | onetwo | im gonna see |
| 08:11.29 | allenmelon | hm |
| 08:11.32 | allenmelon | protoss are hard for me |
| 08:11.35 | allenmelon | im terran |
| 08:11.44 | Maul | no im just maul |
| 08:11.48 | allenmelon | what kinds of builds should i consider when going against a protoss opponent? |
| 08:11.52 | Maul | wintermaul's fame dwarves my own' |
| 08:12.10 | onetwo | man wintermaul |
| 08:12.12 | onetwo | what a god |
| 08:12.14 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:12.46 | allenmelon | any suggestions? |
| 08:13.24 | slightlyrandom | Ghosts |
| 08:13.34 | slightlyrandom | Any build with ghosts is fairly good :P |
| 08:13.40 | allenmelon | o.0 |
| 08:13.46 | allenmelon | ive never used ghosts... |
| 08:14.05 | allenmelon | oh, for emp right? |
| 08:14.05 | slightlyrandom | EMP removes energy, if thats a problem, and also deals 100 damage to shields |
| 08:14.20 | allenmelon | hm, that wouldve been extremely useful for the match i just lost |
| 08:14.28 | slightlyrandom | What exactly is it you're losing to, though? |
| 08:14.31 | allenmelon | since he had immortals and high temps which killed my rines |
| 08:14.53 | slightlyrandom | Cloak the ghosts, run them a bit ahead and emp the shit out of him |
| 08:14.57 | allenmelon | well, i had several siege tanks, one thor..., and a bunch of marines, handful of medivacs, and handful of vikings |
| 08:14.59 | slightlyrandom | If you're allowed to do that, you're golden :D |
| 08:15.07 | onetwo | haha it worked now |
| 08:15.09 | onetwo | Barter |
| 08:15.10 | onetwo | thanks! |
| 08:15.13 | onetwo | i dont know what it was |
| 08:15.15 | Barter | np :P |
| 08:15.20 | allenmelon | and they had lots of stalkers, few voids, handful of immortals, and some hts |
| 08:15.33 | allenmelon | hts just killed my rines |
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| 08:15.40 | allenmelon | demolished them |
| 08:16.00 | allenmelon | does emp remove all energy? |
| 08:16.17 | Barter | I think so |
| 08:16.48 | allenmelon | oh good |
| 08:16.51 | Barter | it removes the shield |
| 08:16.51 | allenmelon | then hts are useless |
| 08:17.03 | allenmelon | well, sheilds i know it removes all |
| 08:17.06 | allenmelon | but idk about energy |
| 08:17.13 | slightlyrandom | Shields it removes 100 |
| 08:17.17 | slightlyrandom | Won't one shot an archon :P |
| 08:17.21 | slightlyrandom | Or, as good as one shot |
| 08:18.28 | allenmelon | aww |
| 08:18.34 | slightlyrandom | It also turns out three ghosts can decimate a mineral line in seconds |
| 08:18.40 | allenmelon | well, i see that ghosts are the lacking unit |
| 08:18.42 | slightlyrandom | So, a cloaked expedition is quite powerful |
| 08:18.54 | allenmelon | it seems ghosts will turn the tables for a tvp game |
| 08:19.04 | slightlyrandom | They are quite powerful, yes |
| 08:19.13 | allenmelon | ive never thought about getting them in a normal 1v1 game |
| 08:19.18 | allenmelon | always thought of them as the nukers |
| 08:19.21 | slightlyrandom | hehe |
| 08:19.33 | slightlyrandom | Nukes are the icing on the cake |
| 08:19.47 | allenmelon | and bcs too, thought they were super powerful, so i thought id never get them in a 1v1 match, |
| 08:19.59 | slightlyrandom | BC's are quite hard to handle as Protoss |
| 08:20.08 | slightlyrandom | You need a fuckton of stalkers with blink |
| 08:20.17 | allenmelon | haha |
| 08:20.28 | allenmelon | bcs are fast attackers now |
| 08:20.35 | slightlyrandom | Voidrays get decimated by Yamato |
| 08:20.35 | allenmelon | unlike in sc1, where they attacked pretty slow |
| 08:20.45 | slightlyrandom | and the other "anti-air" is quite simply pathetic |
| 08:21.05 | allenmelon | my builds are usually centered around marines, tanks and vikings, |
| 08:21.14 | allenmelon | idk why, but they always come into mind when i have no plan |
| 08:21.53 | allenmelon | i usually dont build marauders, ghosts, ravens, bcs, thors and hellions.....wow thats a lot... |
| 08:22.22 | allenmelon | imo, i think zerg are easy |
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| 08:22.33 | allenmelon | and my bro's a zerg player and he thinks terrans are hard |
| 08:23.09 | slightlyrandom | I'm a pretty poor player |
| 08:23.31 | allenmelon | what race? |
| 08:23.33 | slightlyrandom | I got placed in Platinum one time, boy that was fun |
| 08:23.56 | slightlyrandom | I can't seem to keep up production as Terran, and Zerg just weird me out |
| 08:24.01 | slightlyrandom | So I go with the noob race |
| 08:24.10 | allenmelon | me 2, i was in platinum once, in phase one, because i got placed with noobs for placement |
| 08:24.15 | allenmelon | then i dropped to silver... lol |
| 08:24.26 | allenmelon | protoss arent noob race |
| 08:24.29 | slightlyrandom | I just spam Zealots, and then get either Immortals or Collussus, depending :P |
| 08:24.31 | allenmelon | ive heard that terrans are |
| 08:24.38 | slightlyrandom | Naw, Protoss are the most forgiving |
| 08:24.42 | slightlyrandom | Easiest to get |
| 08:24.54 | allenmelon | from the people i hear from, they all think that terrans are the easiest race to play |
| 08:25.07 | slightlyrandom | Then they are silly |
| 08:25.10 | allenmelon | haha |
| 08:25.17 | slightlyrandom | All the Terran Units have activated abilities |
| 08:25.18 | allenmelon | i mean, terrans are the middle race |
| 08:25.19 | slightlyrandom | Or nearly all |
| 08:25.45 | slightlyrandom | Protoss, you just click 1AClick |
| 08:25.54 | allenmelon | well, they do make less units, |
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| 08:26.08 | slightlyrandom | If you need a counter unit, you have Chrono Boost |
| 08:26.09 | allenmelon | but theyre more expensive, and requires good timing |
| 08:26.29 | slightlyrandom | Its easier to control the army and easier and faster to get the right units out |
| 08:26.46 | slightlyrandom | So, Protoss is more forgiving |
| 08:27.25 | allenmelon | well |
| 08:27.50 | allenmelon | i think zerg are more forgiving, since their units are cheap, and it doesnt hurt as bad to lose the same number of units as any other race |
| 08:28.02 | allenmelon | and you can recover units out fast |
| 08:28.23 | slightlyrandom | The problem is you NEED to stay on top of Larva or get a lot of expansions for Zerg to work |
| 08:28.29 | allenmellon | yeah |
| 08:28.34 | slightlyrandom | Or, at least stay semi on top of Larva |
| 08:28.40 | allenmellon | i dont like zerg for that reason, macro |
| 08:28.43 | slightlyrandom | Now I am not saying that is extremely hard |
| 08:28.47 | allenmellon | i really am bad when it comes to macroing |
| 08:28.49 | slightlyrandom | But it takes a bit of getting used to |
| 08:29.13 | allenmellon | yeah, with all their expansions, macro is a must |
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| 08:29.37 | greg__ | woops |
| 08:30.25 | greg__ | anyways, is it possible to change minerals so that you can mine from them if they belong to an enemy? |
| 08:33.18 | slightlyrandom | Why not just give them to the Neutral guy? |
| 08:33.24 | slightlyrandom | Or do you want it to change ? |
| 08:34.13 | greg__ | it was neutral |
| 08:34.31 | greg__ | but then i realized if it belonged to the titan instead it would fix all my problems |
| 08:34.50 | greg__ | i wouldn't need a sight trigger so the titan could see the gold mine |
| 08:35.01 | greg__ | wouldn't need an area region |
| 08:35.08 | greg__ | then players couldn't see the abilities on the gold mine |
| 08:35.19 | greg__ | then players couldn't turn auto cast off for the heal ability |
| 08:35.27 | slightlyrandom | Hehe |
| 08:35.30 | greg__ | etc. |
| 08:36.26 | slightlyrandom | Tried on the mining ability? |
| 08:36.33 | slightlyrandom | See what kinds of targets it allows |
| 08:38.02 | slightlyrandom | Maul, why isn't your TD mazeable ? |
| 08:38.05 | greg__ | couldn't find anything |
| 08:38.17 | greg__ | just keeps saying Cannot harvest that resource |
| 08:38.30 | Maul | i have a new one in planning stages |
| 08:38.36 | Maul | that will be mazeable |
| 08:38.45 | Maul | totally different from the current |
| 08:38.50 | Maul | but still td |
| 08:38.54 | greg__ | where are errors stored in the data editor |
| 08:39.00 | greg__ | like "Cant harvest that resource" |
| 08:39.12 | greg__ | maybe if i find it i can work backwards |
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| 08:40.23 | slightlyrandom | If you find it greg__, I'd really like to know |
| 08:40.29 | slightlyrandom | Maul: Nice |
| 08:41.32 | slightlyrandom | greg__: Actually, if you just mean where it pulls the error text from, I can help you |
| 08:41.40 | greg__ | ok where is it from |
| 08:42.53 | Phaos_ | hmmmmmmmm this is going to be a fun challange getting the DE version of hero revive working :D |
| 08:43.11 | Phaos_ | work can't end sooner, 30 minutes >: | |
| 08:43.56 | slightlyrandom | On the Ability, there is a field called UI - Default Error |
| 08:43.56 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:44.05 | slightlyrandom | Which unfortunately means you can't really use it for much |
| 08:44.56 | greg__ | for which ability? |
| 08:44.59 | greg__ | mule mine doesn't have it |
| 08:45.12 | Phaos_ | oh yeah, we can have custom errors now, it is SO AWESOME |
| 08:45.49 | slightlyrandom | Error - You're too stupid to use this ability! |
| 08:45.58 | Phaos_ | exactly :P |
| 08:46.01 | Clord | lol |
| 08:46.06 | Phaos_ | "Please target your mom" |
| 08:46.06 | slightlyrandom | "Not enough mana, dickwad!" |
| 08:46.31 | Clord | reminds of chesscraft |
| 08:46.37 | Clord | I selected my piece in enemy turn |
| 08:46.42 | Phaos_ | "this ability is obviously far too complex for your inferior mind" |
| 08:46.44 | Clord | so I did need select another to fix selection |
| 08:46.52 | Clord | it told me "you can't use enemy piece!" |
| 08:46.55 | Clord | or something like that |
| 08:47.03 | Phaos_ | O.o |
| 08:47.05 | Phaos_ | wtf |
| 08:47.44 | Clord | now is monday |
| 08:47.54 | Clord | there is 50% chance this EU side publishing is fixed today |
| 08:48.42 | WhiskeeGX | they better fix it |
| 08:49.10 | Clord | I made up that 50% as they might fix it tomorrow lol |
| 08:49.19 | Clord | blizzard is slow when it comes to EU fixes |
| 08:52.38 | slightlyrandom | And I might just have a working map |
| 08:52.41 | slightlyrandom | How amazing |
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| 08:53.11 | slightlyrandom | Well, Leaderboards and Timers are still fugly |
| 08:54.45 | Reactorex | Directed at the randomish gamelike quotes earlier.... "Your princess is not in this castle. Go away." |
| 08:55.24 | slightlyrandom | :D |
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| 09:00.35 | greg__ | where is the text for minerals, vespene, and supply? |
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| 09:00.50 | greg__ | "minerals are used to build your forces. harvest minerals from mineral patches", etc |
| 09:02.37 | slightlyrandom | On the Mineral Units, most likely |
| 09:03.28 | casperb | greg__: open text editor |
| 09:03.32 | casperb | text module * |
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| 09:03.59 | greg__ | ok |
| 09:04.12 | greg__ | does this thing have a search? |
| 09:04.20 | casperb | of course not |
| 09:04.24 | casperb | that would be convinient |
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| 09:13.34 | greg__ | woah |
| 09:13.42 | greg__ | first bsod in 5 years |
| 09:13.48 | greg__ | you were saying casperb? |
| 09:14.11 | ekcolnovkol | uh |
| 09:14.16 | ekcolnovkol | UMS stands for user-made-scenario |
| 09:14.17 | ekcolnovkol | right |
| 09:14.18 | ekcolnovkol | :U |
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| 09:15.14 | slightlyrandom | Use Map Settings |
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| 09:15.53 | MTops | ello |
| 09:16.13 | MTops | lots of people here, who is actually paying attention? :) |
| 09:16.20 | ekcolnovkol | not many |
| 09:16.41 | slightlyrandom | *lalalalalalala* |
| 09:16.48 | MTops | at least someone is, that's good ;) |
| 09:16.53 | Arthas- | O_o |
| 09:17.09 | Arthas- | there is like |
| 09:17.11 | Arthas- | 2 persons |
| 09:17.21 | Arthas- | you and ekcolnovkol! |
| 09:17.49 | MTops | what do you guys do around Mapster? building maps? other projects? just looking around for fun maps? |
| 09:18.07 | Arthas- | of the remaining ppl, 13% discuss offtopic, 17% warcraft and the remaining 70% just idle. |
| 09:18.25 | Arthas- | tinker with the editor mostly :p |
| 09:18.39 | Clord | push out shovelware maps |
| 09:18.41 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:18.50 | MTops | shovelware? :) |
| 09:19.23 | Clord | well since editor came about that much time nearly..... already have four maps ready to push out for publishing still |
| 09:19.24 | Clord | XD |
| 09:19.32 | MTops | any of you tinkered with the AI yet? |
| 09:19.45 | slightlyrandom | A few have |
| 09:19.48 | casperb | Actually 100% discuss offtopic :p |
| 09:20.02 | casperb | majority is unrelated to SC2 edit ;) |
| 09:20.07 | MTops | I haven't checked out the map published thing yet, so don't know yet how it works :) |
| 09:20.18 | slightlyrandom | It doesn't, is the short of it :D |
| 09:20.56 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/storm-imperial-sanctum/. Storm of the Imperial Sanctum. ekcolnovkol (Manager/Author). Approved by grum. |
| 09:21.27 | Clord | when author plays own map hilarity can ensue |
| 09:21.33 | Clord | balance whiners, this map suck quitters |
| 09:21.34 | Clord | etc |
| 09:21.34 | Clord | XD |
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| 09:22.15 | Clord | then that third type |
| 09:22.18 | Clord | map defenders in same match |
| 09:22.23 | Clord | who start argue with bashers |
| 09:22.41 | MTops | I've noticed people going nuts with the editor, creating game types of nearly every genre in the book :P |
| 09:22.49 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 09:22.51 | casperb | Done lemmings yet? :P |
| 09:22.59 | slightlyrandom | Too bad most of them don't really work on B.net |
| 09:23.04 | slightlyrandom | Latency kills half of it |
| 09:23.08 | MTops | i haven't made anything in the editor yet :P nor have I downloaded any maps |
| 09:23.18 | MTops | just played some official games... |
| 09:23.19 | slightlyrandom | Why the devil not? |
| 09:23.25 | casperb | Want someone to make a lemmings map >:( |
| 09:23.36 | casperb | started one, it's doable but wanted to do something competitive :p |
| 09:23.37 | slightlyrandom | That'd be quite hard |
| 09:23.50 | slightlyrandom | With all the digging and brick laying and that |
| 09:24.09 | MTops | does this engine support terrain manipulation by units? |
| 09:24.14 | slightlyrandom | yeah |
| 09:24.21 | MTops | wow |
| 09:24.49 | MTops | what can't you do... :P |
| 09:24.57 | casperb | play it on b.net |
| 09:25.00 | Clord | you can't do good lemmings |
| 09:25.05 | Clord | as terrain system is not 2d |
| 09:25.06 | Clord | lol |
| 09:25.12 | casperb | Sure you can |
| 09:25.23 | Clord | that 3d lemmings thing is horrible |
| 09:25.24 | Clord | XD |
| 09:25.45 | casperb | Nah i'm telling you it would be awesome :P |
| 09:25.49 | casperb | use x,y ignore z |
| 09:25.55 | casperb | re-orient models |
| 09:26.04 | casperb | and use a top down camera |
| 09:26.26 | casperb | or use 3d space |
| 09:26.44 | greg__ | what should the ultimate for my titan be? |
| 09:26.53 | greg__ | he's an ultralisk that is hungry for buildings |
| 09:26.54 | casperb | Instant Imba Damage |
| 09:27.04 | casperb | Does 50 000 damage to all units on the server |
| 09:27.05 | slightlyrandom | MTops: Most stuff involving direct Keyboard control (WASD) will fail utterly on B.net |
| 09:27.08 | greg__ | he already has fungal growth and transfusion |
| 09:27.09 | casperb | including ladder matches |
| 09:27.27 | MTops | heh, why? |
| 09:27.30 | slightlyrandom | Latency |
| 09:27.38 | slightlyrandom | Everything is done serverside |
| 09:27.46 | MTops | are the pings that bad? |
| 09:28.02 | slightlyrandom | In short, yes |
| 09:28.02 | Clord | yeah... even if you are hoster of game room.. you are not actually hosting even custom map... it is hosted via their server |
| 09:28.03 | Clord | XD |
| 09:28.03 | MTops | greg, give him a charge attack |
| 09:28.10 | greg__ | a charge eh |
| 09:28.12 | greg__ | hmmmmmm |
| 09:28.25 | MTops | maybe the ability to run over small units :) |
| 09:28.39 | Clord | side effect is that moment their server fail... map stops working |
| 09:28.40 | Clord | lol |
| 09:28.44 | greg__ | it needs to be an ability that helps in penetrating bases |
| 09:28.44 | casperb | Pretty sure it's a distributed arch and not client-server |
| 09:28.57 | casperb | client-server would infact just be stupid |
| 09:29.05 | MTops | burrow with underground movement? :D |
| 09:29.06 | greg__ | anyone here play zerg? |
| 09:29.07 | slightlyrandom | They got towers? How about reflecting missiles |
| 09:29.17 | casperb | greg__: yep |
| 09:29.22 | greg__ | what is that overlord ability |
| 09:29.26 | greg__ | or overseer |
| 09:29.29 | greg__ | that corrupts buildings |
| 09:29.31 | greg__ | what does that do |
| 09:29.37 | slightlyrandom | Stops them from building for 30 secs |
| 09:29.43 | slightlyrandom | and makes em unrepairable, I think |
| 09:29.49 | greg__ | hmm, i wonder if i can change it to stop them from attacking for 10 seconds |
| 09:29.52 | greg__ | now that would be a good ultimate |
| 09:29.53 | slightlyrandom | building = producing |
| 09:29.55 | casperb | been moved back tho |
| 09:29.59 | MTops | disruption web :) |
| 09:30.16 | MTops | any chance the latency issues are fixed when game gets out of beta? |
| 09:30.20 | slightlyrandom | Nope |
| 09:30.29 | Clord | as map hosting is already done server side.. many has suggested that bank files could be there too... so people not cheat in maps that easily XD |
| 09:30.42 | MTops | what are bank files? |
| 09:30.55 | casperb | XML files |
| 09:30.56 | slightlyrandom | Offline folders you can store data between games |
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| 09:30.59 | Clord | as name suggest.. it stores st uff |
| 09:31.01 | Clord | stuff |
| 09:31.13 | greg__ | what latency issues are you guys talking about? i have a slight delay but that's it for the most part |
| 09:31.26 | Clord | and even between maps... I have shared "career experience" between some of my maps.... =) |
| 09:31.30 | slightlyrandom | The "Player presses Key" event |
| 09:31.39 | slightlyrandom | causes massive latency on B.net |
| 09:32.18 | MTops | good thing I won't be working with that event then :) |
| 09:32.37 | Kimphoe | Why aren't any custom games up on eu? |
| 09:32.44 | greg__ | what map are you going to make mtops |
| 09:32.45 | Clord | blizzard hyped keyboard controlled maps |
| 09:32.46 | Clord | lol |
| 09:32.48 | slightlyrandom | We can make achievements, but can we show them anywhere but inside our maps? |
| 09:32.57 | casperb | We can't make them |
| 09:33.00 | slightlyrandom | Kimphoe: Publising doesn't work yet |
| 09:33.13 | MTops | please check my introduction post on the forum, i will be building an AI |
| 09:33.25 | greg__ | there was a contest for it |
| 09:33.25 | greg__ | oh don't they already have some of that |
| 09:33.50 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, there was... two entries ? |
| 09:33.57 | slightlyrandom | And one that Probe rushed :P |
| 09:34.02 | Clord | four entries |
| 09:34.07 | Clord | where three was inside contest rules |
| 09:34.07 | Clord | XD |
| 09:34.13 | MTops | I will be working on it for 35 weeks, full-time |
| 09:34.16 | casperb | all made by rrowland? :P |
| 09:34.19 | MTops | it is a graduation project for school |
| 09:34.23 | slightlyrandom | Nice |
| 09:34.27 | Clord | I have no idea why that custom map was considered valid AI entry as it played nothing like melee map |
| 09:34.28 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:34.35 | slightlyrandom | You trying to make something that'll beat the Blizzard one on hard? :) |
| 09:35.18 | MTops | I will try to make something that is fun to play against |
| 09:35.18 | slightlyrandom | Or whatever the highest difficulty is |
| 09:35.18 | casperb | Insane |
| 09:35.18 | slightlyrandom | Define fun. Wacky ? |
| 09:35.18 | casperb | unless it's been renamed yet again |
| 09:35.20 | MTops | in the few games I have played against the Blizzard AI i noticed it is still lacking basic intelligence |
| 09:35.28 | casperb | The cheese-o-matic AI! |
| 09:35.33 | Clord | lol... they could rename it "mental" |
| 09:35.34 | Clord | XD |
| 09:35.45 | slightlyrandom | "The Matrix" |
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| 09:35.57 | slightlyrandom | Oooh, Skynet |
| 09:36.01 | slightlyrandom | That'd be quite epic |
| 09:36.07 | Clord | Jedi Master |
| 09:36.08 | Clord | XD |
| 09:36.15 | Clord | as they play with APM like one |
| 09:36.16 | Clord | lol |
| 09:36.19 | casperb | Google has already bought the rights to skynet (tm) |
| 09:36.31 | slightlyrandom | You saying google is becomming sentient ? |
| 09:36.34 | Clord | Shynet |
| 09:36.47 | casperb | slightlyrandom: shh.. it can hear us..! |
| 09:36.55 | Clord | people freak out when someone might learn their name online |
| 09:36.56 | Clord | XD |
| 09:37.03 | Clord | Shynet has born |
| 09:37.03 | slightlyrandom | There a way to upload maps to the US? |
| 09:37.20 | slightlyrandom | Or should I go find a bloke and tell him to do the deed |
| 09:37.41 | casperb | Gotta cough up 200 USD to publish our maps ;) |
| 09:37.47 | casperb | <3 blizzard |
| 09:37.52 | slightlyrandom | I want to know if the damn thing actually works in multiplayer |
| 09:37.58 | Clord | map publishing localization blows... europe has more languages than English and map can't be localized for more than one when publishing |
| 09:38.14 | Clord | XD |
| 09:38.25 | casperb | How many locales are there for SC2? |
| 09:38.27 | Clord | so all people with non english client are screwed |
| 09:38.29 | slightlyrandom | The guys at Blizzard is really really thinking this stuff through |
| 09:38.33 | slightlyrandom | 8 ? |
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| 09:38.48 | ryii | hello |
| 09:38.56 | casperb | enGB, enUS, deDE |
| 09:38.58 | casperb | and? |
| 09:39.00 | ryii | i cant dl sc2 beta from blizzard site it says 'file not found' |
| 09:39.02 | slightlyrandom | German, US, Spanish, French, Korean, Russina, Chinese and Taiwanese |
| 09:39.09 | ryii | how to download it? |
| 09:39.16 | Clord | lol.. you went to asia |
| 09:39.16 | slightlyrandom | Google it |
| 09:39.17 | Clord | XD |
| 09:39.22 | ryii | what? |
| 09:39.38 | slightlyrandom | "download starcraft 2 beta client" |
| 09:40.09 | casperb | Meh localizing is going to be soo fun.. -.- |
| 09:40.11 | Clord | but yeah if list all languages no matter continent |
| 09:40.13 | Clord | that is right |
| 09:40.18 | ryii | but how to download from blizzard site? |
| 09:40.27 | slightlyrandom | Click Download |
| 09:40.41 | Clord | how to turn on computer? |
| 09:40.42 | Clord | XD |
| 09:40.53 | casperb | See that big spinning thing inside? |
| 09:40.59 | casperb | Throw water on it |
| 09:41.13 | slightlyrandom | Step one, submerge computer in liquid, to keep cool in summer heat |
| 09:41.20 | MTops | will be ingame testing some more, talk to you later! |
| 09:41.24 | slightlyrandom | ! |
| 09:41.27 | ryii | it says 'file not found' |
| 09:41.34 | Clord | my computer fans go so fast in case that I don't really see their movement |
| 09:41.42 | casperb | ryii: download what SC2? |
| 09:42.05 | ryii | sc2 beta through blizzard account |
| 09:42.15 | casperb | Yeh got key and you are authenticated? |
| 09:42.53 | Clord | what is awesome about editor that you need only once authentice it |
| 09:42.55 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:43.01 | Clord | unless you reinstall |
| 09:43.02 | Clord | etc |
| 09:43.18 | ryii | i have this game on registered on my blizz account but cant download it |
| 09:43.21 | ryii | it says file not found |
| 09:43.29 | casperb | Then.. |
| 09:43.36 | casperb | You are a russian spy! |
| 09:43.51 | ryii | ? |
| 09:44.06 | casperb | nvm :p |
| 09:44.17 | Clord | some people really not get jokes |
| 09:44.25 | slightlyrandom | We need to use them more |
| 09:44.26 | Clord | or even notice them |
| 09:44.37 | casperb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ40WlshNwU#t=1m1 |
| 09:45.27 | casperb | Actually the russian spy thing is really stupid :p |
| 09:45.40 | Clord | thus so awesome |
| 09:45.41 | casperb | But becomes funny when you try to counter it before someone says it :D |
| 09:45.47 | Clord | it is so stupid that it is so damn awesome |
| 09:46.08 | casperb | *goes to make DoTa 2* |
| 09:46.29 | casperb | featuring a video snippet! :P |
| 09:46.57 | slightlyrandom | Russian Spy'd ! |
| 09:47.07 | casperb | Salted! |
| 09:47.48 | casperb | Anyways, triggerlibs, what to do -.- |
| 09:47.50 | casperb | GUI is broken, and custom code can't be written -.- |
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| 09:54.51 | greg___ | how do you go about making a targetted ability an aoe as well? |
| 09:55.30 | Clord | theory but first it targets... then it searchs area |
| 09:55.33 | Clord | around target |
| 09:55.34 | Clord | XD |
| 09:56.07 | greg___ | i meant specifically |
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| 09:56.35 | slightlyrandom | You set the initial effect to search |
| 09:56.41 | slightlyrandom | then have the search call the damage |
| 09:57.11 | slightlyrandom | Look how Fungal Growth works :P |
| 09:58.04 | greg___ | *thinking about just giving the ability a very low mana cost and keep it single target and market it as a micro skill* |
| 09:58.24 | MTops | ok, blizz insane AI cheats :P |
| 09:58.46 | greg___ | doesn't most ai cheat |
| 09:58.55 | MTops | a good one shouldn't need to |
| 09:59.01 | Clord | their APM is also higher than human can achieve naturally |
| 09:59.02 | greg___ | i remember in age of mythology the titan level computer got resources at 2x regular speed |
| 09:59.12 | greg___ | i was so pissed at the time |
| 09:59.19 | greg___ | kept wondering how he rushed me so quickly |
| 10:00.01 | Clord | to make AI more closer like turn based chess AI would require super computer in realtime playing |
| 10:00.02 | Clord | lol |
| 10:00.11 | Clord | I mean |
| 10:00.25 | Clord | reason why simply computer games AI suck so much is that there is no CPU power to really do that awesome AI |
| 10:01.30 | greg___ | really good starcraft ai would be really cool to see |
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| 10:01.44 | Phaos | woot |
| 10:01.45 | greg___ | imagine the infestor mind control micro! |
| 10:01.47 | Phaos | home from work |
| 10:01.51 | greg___ | congrats |
| 10:01.53 | greg___ | lol |
| 10:01.54 | Phaos | time to work on data editor hero revive |
| 10:02.17 | greg___ | you probably did too though |
| 10:02.25 | greg___ | i saw a tutorial on that on the forums |
| 10:02.54 | Phaos | updated to the new patch ? |
| 10:04.23 | greg___ | probably not |
| 10:04.32 | greg___ | my mind reads the forums like this: |
| 10:05.01 | greg___ | if (applicableInCurrentMap) { read(); } else { return; } |
| 10:05.18 | Phaos | lololol |
| 10:05.29 | slightlyrandom | greg___: What are you trying to make your ability do ? |
| 10:05.38 | greg___ | just trying to make contaminate aoe |
| 10:05.57 | greg___ | i'm working through it |
| 10:05.57 | greg___ | control clicking fungal growth and my ability |
| 10:05.57 | greg___ | going through every effect |
| 10:06.09 | slightlyrandom | Make a new effect, a Search Effect |
| 10:06.13 | greg___ | already done |
| 10:06.19 | slightlyrandom | Make the Contaminate Ability cast the Search |
| 10:06.29 | greg___ | yeah under the effects field |
| 10:06.32 | greg___ | yuppers |
| 10:06.35 | slightlyrandom | Then have the Search do the original ability as its effect |
| 10:07.06 | greg___ | +1 |
| 10:07.10 | Phaos | ability > search > apply buff > buff:periodic effect > effect damage |
| 10:07.48 | slightlyrandom | That ought to be it greg___ |
| 10:07.57 | greg___ | yeah ___ |
| 10:08.01 | greg___ | i keep losing internet |
| 10:08.07 | greg___ | it's going to be ___________________ soon |
| 10:08.26 | greg___ | should probably register my actual name or something |
| 10:08.33 | Phaos | does someone have a map (brand new from the new patch) with a gero set up with items e.t.c |
| 10:08.35 | greg___ | my name isn't even greg it was just the first thing that came to mind lol |
| 10:08.47 | Phaos | I want to get straight to working out revive and not spedning most my time building a hero |
| 10:09.02 | Phaos | gero = hero |
| 10:09.19 | greg___ | in the time it takes to find one you could probably have done it by then |
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| 10:09.36 | greg___ | oh wait |
| 10:09.38 | greg___ | items too? |
| 10:09.39 | greg___ | maybe not |
| 10:10.03 | Phaos | items take the most time :P |
| 10:11.01 | greg___ | yo |
| 10:11.02 | greg___ | slightlyrandom |
| 10:11.03 | greg___ | you own |
| 10:11.11 | greg___ | works perfect ty |
| 10:11.36 | greg___ | i didn't think it would be that easy |
| 10:11.44 | greg___ | it really is just right click add object search |
| 10:11.48 | greg___ | make aoe |
| 10:11.50 | greg___ | link |
| 10:11.50 | greg___ | done |
| 10:13.02 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 10:13.24 | greg___ | hey |
| 10:13.31 | greg___ | anyone here know how maps become so popular? |
| 10:13.35 | slightlyrandom | Make a bot |
| 10:13.42 | slightlyrandom | That spams the create game button |
| 10:13.43 | greg___ | yeah that's what i figured really |
| 10:13.51 | greg___ | like really at this point how do you introduce your map |
| 10:14.00 | greg___ | people go to join one and only sees the popular ones and then just plays though |
| 10:14.07 | greg___ | blizzard should have a HOT section or something rofl |
| 10:14.11 | greg___ | or new i mean |
| 10:14.17 | greg___ | or updated i dunno |
| 10:14.19 | greg___ | other tabs |
| 10:14.24 | slightlyrandom | It might come eventually |
| 10:14.28 | greg___ | Popular, New, Recently Updated |
| 10:14.30 | greg___ | that'd be nice |
| 10:14.34 | greg___ | highly rated, etc. |
| 10:14.40 | slightlyrandom | Rated would be really nice |
| 10:15.03 | slightlyrandom | They showcased a good looking system at BlizzCon |
| 10:15.06 | slightlyrandom | Pity they didn't make it |
| 10:15.10 | greg___ | =( |
| 10:16.22 | Cromalic | anyone here experienced with localization? |
| 10:16.26 | Cromalic | i've localized my map |
| 10:16.31 | Cromalic | but the loading screen text doesn't change |
| 10:16.52 | Cromalic | it's like some really old loading screen text i had there a while ago |
| 10:17.05 | Cromalic | i have to save the map again with the US editor to update that loading screen |
| 10:17.23 | Clord | I'm 100% sure that map publishing related join game thing is work in progress |
| 10:17.24 | Clord | XD |
| 10:17.31 | Clord | they just need something functional for release date |
| 10:17.37 | Clord | then improve it |
| 10:18.47 | greg___ | =? |
| 10:18.54 | slightlyrandom | Cromalic: You need to relocalize every time you update text |
| 10:18.56 | greg___ | i just noticed my internet is down |
| 10:19.05 | greg___ | i cannot load any webpages even google |
| 10:19.05 | slightlyrandom | I dont think it is |
| 10:19.12 | greg___ | yet irc is still working |
| 10:19.18 | greg___ | it must just be REALLLLLLY slow |
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| 10:23.12 | Cromalic | slightlyrandom: i know |
| 10:23.14 | Cromalic | i did that |
| 10:23.27 | Cromalic | i localized the map perfectly |
| 10:23.38 | Cromalic | then opened it in the US editor and ran the map |
| 10:23.44 | Cromalic | however, the loading screen doesn't change |
| 10:23.54 | Cromalic | the text taht is |
| 10:24.33 | Cromalic | it's only the loading screen, everything else changes |
| 10:24.51 | Cromalic | i successfully created the 4 text files for each locale, as well as updated the components list |
| 10:24.59 | Cromalic | is the loading screen somewhere else? |
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| 10:28.16 | greg | hello internet |
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| 10:51.54 | Zarakk | Hey-o Mapsterinoes! |
| 10:52.59 | Clord | lol |
| 10:53.10 | slightlyrandom | Diddly-jiggly |
| 10:53.31 | Zarakk | Muggiwuggi |
| 10:53.47 | slightlyrandom | Ugh, it's 30 degrees, and I am swimming in my own sweat |
| 10:54.15 | Zarakk | xD |
| 10:54.16 | slightlyrandom | <-- Breaks above 25 |
| 10:54.26 | slightlyrandom | Core meltdown |
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| 10:54.52 | Zarakk | You should be happy you're not talkin' bout Farenheit, cuz then you'd be freezing :3 |
| 10:55.05 | slightlyrandom | Noone uses Fahrenheit |
| 10:55.19 | slightlyrandom | The only alternate scale I'd be ready to accept is Kelvin |
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| 10:55.38 | Zarakk | I know, it was a word made up by the gouvernment to scare little girls who owned turtles. |
| 10:56.18 | madkipz | i wanted to publish my map and got an error called "Connection to public server interrupted" is it a router problem or is it blizzard? |
| 10:56.27 | Zarakk | Are you in EU? |
| 10:56.30 | madkipz | yes |
| 10:56.32 | Zarakk | Don't bother then |
| 10:56.36 | madkipz | ah kk |
| 10:56.36 | Zarakk | It's broken |
| 10:56.38 | Zarakk | ^^ |
| 10:56.40 | madkipz | tnx |
| 10:56.42 | madkipz | shame |
| 10:56.55 | slightlyrandom | Go out and play in the sun, son |
| 10:57.01 | Zarakk | Or play ChessCraft |
| 10:57.06 | madkipz | what is this sun you speak of |
| 10:57.27 | Zarakk | I heard that if the sun looks at you long enough, it loses it's sense of taste |
| 10:57.28 | WhiskeeGX | you liar, there's no such thing as sun |
| 10:57.29 | Zarakk | or something |
| 10:57.53 | madkipz | i tried chesscraft, and moved all the bricks around. has it been fixed? |
| 10:58.00 | Zarakk | Huh? |
| 10:58.06 | Zarakk | I've played it twice perfectly fine |
| 10:58.29 | madkipz | ah, didnt understand the concept and just selected all the bricks, suprisingly they moved |
| 10:58.34 | Zarakk | xD |
| 10:58.43 | slightlyrandom | That's pretty neat |
| 10:59.15 | Zarakk | :O |
| 10:59.17 | slightlyrandom | Makes chess a lot more interesting, when you can move all the pieces at once |
| 10:59.37 | Zarakk | Gonna play 1v1 with a mate now, catchy'all latohrz |
| 10:59.39 | madkipz | Rofl xD but its not chess anymore then ;/ |
| 10:59.44 | Zarakk | Or is it? |
| 10:59.46 | Zarakk | SuperChess! |
| 10:59.50 | slightlyrandom | It's action chess |
| 10:59.55 | slightlyrandom | real time chess |
| 11:02.38 | madkipz | tnx you guys, laterzz ;D |
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| 11:06.11 | Ashamed | Good morning |
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| 11:08.46 | Ashamed | How is everyone? |
| 11:15.34 | Clord | meh |
| 11:15.55 | Clord | still waiting publishing feature |
| 11:16.00 | Clord | so I can enjoy other than from chesscraft |
| 11:16.00 | Clord | XD |
| 11:16.24 | Clord | it gets old fast to beat chess noobs |
| 11:16.25 | Clord | =) |
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| 11:17.04 | Clord | lol I mean in chesscraft |
| 11:17.12 | Clord | enemy moves freaking soldier first |
| 11:17.13 | Clord | XD |
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| 11:25.01 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/terran-02-backwater-station/. Terran 02 - Backwater Station. Zeoinx (Manager/Author). Approved by grum. |
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| 11:30.39 | Demonette | is it somehow able to make a custom description for a weapon? so not the standard tooltip of xy damage z speed and so on? |
| 11:37.06 | Clord | it is nice how people not stay waiting answer |
| 11:37.07 | Clord | oh well |
| 11:37.44 | WhiskeeGX | people don't really understand what IRC is |
| 11:37.56 | WhiskeeGX | they expect an active chat |
| 11:38.46 | Clord | quite stupid really as irc is one of oldest forms of chatting |
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| 11:41.30 | apex | hi |
| 11:42.17 | apex | can any one help me with triggerS? |
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| 11:42.39 | apex | can any one help me with triggers? |
| 11:43.04 | apex | for some reason my unit isnt respawning after it spawns a number of times |
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| 11:51.36 | slightlyrandom | IRC isn't chat, its a way of life |
| 11:52.24 | ekcolnovkol | indeed |
| 11:52.45 | Clord | lol |
| 11:54.02 | ekcolnovkol | when i play my own map, i get asked so many questions :S |
| 11:54.42 | Clord | that's why map makers ID would rock.. to hide fact that is author of map playing |
| 11:54.43 | Clord | lol |
| 11:54.55 | Clord | it was rather easy in Warcraft III |
| 11:54.59 | Clord | with making another account |
| 11:55.26 | depthsofchaos | i lvoe hearing the whine rly |
| 11:57.05 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 12:00.43 | Maul | everytime i play my own maps i get reactions like |
| 12:00.47 | Maul | WOW its the creator |
| 12:00.49 | Maul | or |
| 12:01.00 | Maul | lol the creator is here |
| 12:01.03 | Maul | or |
| 12:01.07 | Maul | is that the real maul |
| 12:01.08 | Maul | or |
| 12:01.12 | Maul | your map is shit |
| 12:01.46 | depthsofchaos | when i get that i look up their game history |
| 12:01.56 | depthsofchaos | and usally laugh cause they have 50 games on my map |
| 12:04.29 | Phaos | OK so I just made a crappy hero with levels stats and items.. am I missing anything in terms of things a reviveable hero needs to record ? |
| 12:06.02 | ekcolnovkol | pretty much |
| 12:06.21 | ekcolnovkol | my game is slowing down in terms of growth |
| 12:06.25 | ekcolnovkol | onetwo make me a video! |
| 12:06.47 | Maul | soon i will once again be the king |
| 12:06.48 | Maul | :P |
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| 12:14.01 | slightlyrandom | Any of you want to upload Euro maps to the US ? |
| 12:14.13 | slightlyrandom | (and possibly be test dummies) |
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| 12:23.29 | Altharaz | hi there |
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| 12:35.55 | slightlyrandom | ello |
| 12:41.36 | redmarine | :o |
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| 12:50.09 | Clord | current status of EU map publishing |
| 12:50.12 | Clord | still not fixed |
| 12:50.13 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:50.36 | Clord | pretty sure can't expect fix before 21.00 |
| 12:50.37 | Clord | lol |
| 12:51.39 | Phaos | reviving in the data editor is cryptic to say the least |
| 12:53.45 | slightlyrandom | I thought I saw someone mention it basically worked |
| 12:55.03 | Phaos | it probably does |
| 12:55.20 | Phaos | for one things that were needed but missing are no longer missing |
| 12:55.26 | Phaos | and it has been done in the trigger editor |
| 12:55.37 | Phaos | but there is a way to do it in the DE and I'm trying to figure it out |
| 12:58.38 | slightlyrandom | Like an Ankh ability ? |
| 12:58.47 | Phaos | no |
| 12:59.06 | Phaos | like a , your hero died. revive him at a building |
| 12:59.12 | slightlyrandom | Hm, like the altar thing |
| 12:59.13 | slightlyrandom | right |
| 12:59.28 | Phaos | ankh revive is easy :P |
| 13:00.08 | slightlyrandom | Is it even possible to specify a single "instance" of a unit like that in the DE? |
| 13:00.42 | slightlyrandom | I can see how you'd make another of the same kind, and then with triggers make it into the same, perhaps |
| 13:00.57 | Phaos | well it's more like you set up a behavior that has like. 1 charge, that will search for if a unit hits death threshold and then give i a whole bunch of hitpoints |
| 13:01.21 | Phaos | after a certain amount of time |
| 13:01.33 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, ankh is pretty simple |
| 13:01.38 | Phaos | I have a feeling that blizzard have two units for heros |
| 13:01.48 | Phaos | hero alive and hero dead |
| 13:01.51 | Phaos | hero dead just sits there |
| 13:02.10 | Phaos | thats my guess |
| 13:02.19 | Phaos | or at least it is a place holder for the dead hero |
| 13:02.23 | slightlyrandom | Well, again, its pretty easy to fix this with Triggers |
| 13:03.10 | Phaos | the point is tho |
| 13:03.19 | Phaos | that they have a DE way of doing it |
| 13:03.24 | Phaos | and thats what I am figuring out |
| 13:03.29 | Phaos | this is an experimen |
| 13:03.30 | Phaos | t |
| 13:04.31 | Phaos | the thing is |
| 13:04.37 | Phaos | there is a revive ability |
| 13:04.43 | Phaos | which is as far as I can tell |
| 13:04.47 | Phaos | pretty straight forward |
| 13:04.52 | Phaos | however |
| 13:05.01 | Phaos | it requires an effect |
| 13:05.08 | Phaos | and it's the effect portion that makes no sense |
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| 13:08.04 | Phaos | it's like. they have a revive ability, but no revive effect, the closest I have come to is a create unit effect |
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| 13:31.54 | Phaos | YUSSS |
| 13:31.56 | Phaos | I win! |
| 13:32.17 | Phaos | The only thing is that heros drop the item on death |
| 13:34.42 | Phaos | although I think Item dropping is a property of items themselves |
| 13:36.23 | slightlyrandom | There is a "Drop on Death" flag |
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| 13:41.00 | Phaos | yeah mine is unticked :s |
| 13:41.06 | Phaos | I wonder if that logic is backwards |
| 13:41.13 | Phaos | and it has to be ticked for it NOT to drop |
| 13:56.12 | Ashamed | 5 1/2 hours |
| 13:56.16 | Phaos | ? |
| 14:01.24 | Phaos | apart from the items always dropping this data editor version of hero revive is good news :D |
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| 14:31.37 | manvsrice | anyone now when there will possible to publish custom games? |
| 14:31.53 | manvsrice | getting a litte tired of chesscraft :D |
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| 14:40.22 | Demonette | Hi guys |
| 14:40.45 | Demonette | mmhmhh anyone here that knows how to make a custom tooltip for a weapon? |
| 14:41.03 | Demonette | an only text one... not those damage and speed stuff |
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| 14:42.51 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/colosseum-x/. Colosseum X. xinehp (Manager/Author). Approved by sanktanglia. |
| 14:42.56 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/terran-03-desperate-alliance/. Terran 03 - Desperate Alliance. Zeoinx (Manager/Author). Approved by sanktanglia. |
| 14:43.08 | Demonette | So know one there... damn |
| 14:43.25 | nicoli_s | woot 9 maps away from 1000! |
| 14:43.45 | wOlfLinG | Yay :D |
| 14:45.23 | Demonette | -.- |
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| 14:51.44 | hookah | hi all, is anybody here who is well experienced with dialogs in editor |
| 14:52.07 | WhiskeeGX | depends, what's the problem? |
| 14:53.22 | HP-X|Arthas | nicoli_s: you totally missed our irc adventure yesterady! |
| 14:53.23 | Cromalic | where can i download the sc2mapster intro video? |
| 14:54.01 | nicoli_s | HP-X|Arthas:what adventure? |
| 14:54.09 | HP-X|Arthas | It featured closed rooms, hazardous radiation, lost-weird stuffs, glory holes and perverted doctors in coats! |
| 14:54.34 | nicoli_s | Cromalic: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/mapster-logo-intro/ |
| 14:54.35 | HP-X|Arthas | you where online, back in the logs 16h40m :p |
| 14:54.37 | hookah | well, I have a dialog where, if I click to a dialog item than the dialog items changes using destroy dialog and create dialog item, but the first dialog item I made always stays in the background, thats my problem |
| 14:54.39 | HP-X|Arthas | were* |
| 14:55.30 | hookah | using button dialog item* |
| 14:55.33 | WhiskeeGX | huh... a destroyed dialog destroyes all dialog items within it as well. Double-check the second dialog in case you copied the first one and forgot that item somewhere :) |
| 14:56.15 | hookah | ups I wanted to say destroy dialog item:D |
| 14:56.52 | WhiskeeGX | how are you destroying that dialog item, with "last dialog item created" or calling a variable? |
| 14:57.10 | hookah | calling variable |
| 14:57.20 | Demonette | So there isn't any way to make a custom weapon description? XD |
| 14:58.04 | WhiskeeGX | check that variable is not being assigned multiple times to different dialog items. If you call destroyed dialog item, it does indeed destroy it |
| 14:58.13 | WhiskeeGX | *destroy |
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| 14:58.42 | WhiskeeGX | try "debugging" it: instead of destroying it, move that dialog item 300 pixels left or right |
| 14:58.46 | WhiskeeGX | if it moves, that variable is okay |
| 14:58.57 | WhiskeeGX | if the wrong thing moves, there you are :P |
| 14:59.00 | hookah | hmm |
| 14:59.02 | hookah | good idea |
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| 15:00.12 | hookah | also is the max intiger value set to 256k? and real too? |
| 15:01.54 | WhiskeeGX | nope |
| 15:01.59 | Ashamed | of course had to be a busy monday |
| 15:02.03 | WhiskeeGX | max integer is somewhere past 2 billions |
| 15:02.29 | Ashamed | thats it |
| 15:09.22 | Fisker | slaps nicoli_s around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:09.27 | Fisker | 1 slap away from 2 slaps |
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| 15:10.27 | nicoli_s | ignores |
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| 15:19.15 | Helral | 6d6a6r6k6 |
| 15:19.18 | Helral | gdmn |
| 15:19.32 | Helral | too many windows :S |
| 15:22.41 | Helral | it's quiet on bnet.... 0 games according to sc2.... |
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| 15:30.18 | Phaos | here it is! Data editor hero revival ! http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4705-data-editor-revive-heroes/ |
| 15:30.35 | Phaos | Please to be learnage from me |
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| 15:32.46 | Phaos | My issue, and I hope someone picks it up, is that items drop from the hero when he dies (despite the items flags) |
| 15:32.46 | Phaos | and also there seems to be no way for me to modify the revive time of a unit. |
| 15:40.04 | Clord | hero revive time is very useful in maps where heroes are way above units in food chain |
| 15:40.04 | Clord | XD |
| 15:40.20 | Clord | that way once enemy hero is down... other player is allowed to have nice advantage to assault base |
| 15:40.22 | HP-X|Arthas | phaos, id look at hero revive if someone solved that |
| 15:40.31 | HP-X|Arthas | it seems like units actually die even if they are marked as hero |
| 15:40.35 | HP-X|Arthas | thus dropping the item |
| 15:40.36 | HP-X|Arthas | s |
| 15:40.59 | HP-X|Arthas | nvm |
| 15:41.10 | Ashamed | I know what rpg i am going to make :) |
| 15:41.11 | HP-X|Arthas | you just wrote a tutorial on the damn thing *slaps himself for being the suck at reading* |
| 15:41.51 | Ashamed | DBZ open rpg :) ( Make it so you are just a certian race (4-6 races ).. not any of the main characters, and you effect the way the story goes ) |
| 15:42.11 | Clord | it has story? XD |
| 15:42.19 | Ashamed | but make it so you can change it |
| 15:42.24 | Ashamed | like if you work with the bad guys |
| 15:42.42 | Ashamed | like make it so its basicly the main story... but now you are the reason to what happens |
| 15:42.45 | Ashamed | not the main characters |
| 15:45.46 | Phaos | yeah , the tutorial is written :P i'm going to spend the rest of this time figurign out how to modify the 'Revive time' stat |
| 15:45.54 | Phaos | and also how to make them not drop items |
| 15:46.35 | Phaos | you lot wouldn't know how to retreive your beta key out of your registry would you ? |
| 15:46.58 | Phaos | yes I will update my tutorial if I figure it out xD |
| 15:48.38 | Phaos | awesome my serial is modified into Hex in reg edit -_- |
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| 15:54.07 | HP-X|Arthas | phaos, the beta key aint in the registry |
| 15:54.08 | HP-X|Arthas | ? |
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| 16:00.05 | Phaos | I think it is |
| 16:00.11 | Phaos | but it's as hex information |
| 16:00.29 | Phaos | basicly I don't know what I did with my beta key. but I don't need it anyway the forums finally let me on |
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| 16:18.39 | Fisker | you need your starcraft 2 key to post on the forums now? |
| 16:19.05 | Helral | you don't. you need an account with a sc2 char for the sc2beta forums. |
| 16:20.16 | Phaos | before it was erroring out when I tried, and someone posted a fix for people with the problem |
| 16:20.37 | Phaos | whic was to sign in with full game details (which is what happens when you visit the forums without first signing into bnet) |
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| 16:29.07 | Ashamed | 3 more hours |
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| 16:34.26 | HP-X|Arthas | phaos |
| 16:34.33 | HP-X|Arthas | did you have a character bound to the account then? |
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| 16:37.24 | WhiskeeGX | I suck at timezones. What PDT time is it? |
| 16:38.11 | RodOfNOD | ITS THE same time as u |
| 16:38.16 | RodOfNOD | unless u are in europe |
| 16:38.22 | RodOfNOD | then its 12 hours different |
| 16:38.53 | WhiskeeGX | yeah well i'm in europe, but not all europe is on the same timezone :P |
| 16:38.58 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 16:39.01 | Ashamed | i was going to say that |
| 16:39.24 | Ashamed | dude you have a computer |
| 16:39.27 | Ashamed | just set your clock up to PDT |
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| 16:39.52 | RodOfNOD | lol i thought it said pst not pdt |
| 16:39.57 | RodOfNOD | i have no idea what pdt time it is |
| 16:40.02 | Ashamed | me neither |
| 16:40.05 | Ashamed | now that i think of it |
| 16:40.10 | Ashamed | i am looking and can't find |
| 16:40.51 | WhiskeeGX | :o |
| 16:40.54 | Ashamed | you thinking of pacific time? |
| 16:40.55 | WhiskeeGX | PDT is PST in summer :P |
| 16:40.58 | Ashamed | usa west coast? |
| 16:41.24 | MaxMode | yes |
| 16:41.31 | Ashamed | it is 9:40 there |
| 16:41.44 | WhiskeeGX | y just found that ty |
| 16:42.06 | Ashamed | np |
| 16:42.15 | Ashamed | its the east coast i hate |
| 16:42.20 | Ashamed | they make me wake up at 5! |
| 16:43.09 | Ashamed | 2 hours and 45 minutes left |
| 16:43.19 | WhiskeeGX | to what? |
| 16:43.25 | Ashamed | tell i can get the fuck out of here |
| 16:43.29 | WhiskeeGX | lol |
| 16:43.40 | Ashamed | work on mah mapz |
| 16:43.48 | Ashamed | and smoke me some weed |
| 16:44.02 | Ashamed | thats about what the timer is counting down to |
| 16:44.07 | Ashamed | ... mby a nap |
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| 16:45.07 | RodOfNOD | Helral well this is very intersting. it appears they have moved the cost of a unit from the ability to the actual unit now. however there now is no repair cost, thoughts? |
| 16:45.26 | ctccromer | can someone explain how to make a 1st person camera? The map normally uses 3rd person, with the mousing stuff to move the camera[ |
| 16:45.58 | RodOfNOD | if u attach a camear to a unit then move around it should do what u want |
| 16:46.17 | ctccromer | how do you attatch a camera to unit? |
| 16:46.20 | ctccromer | didnt see an action for that |
| 16:46.31 | ctccromer | and im new to cameras. only one ive messed with is defaultcam |
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| 16:48.19 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.49 | ctccromer | oh i thought thatd be wrong since it says Look At |
| 16:49.25 | ctccromer | so then if i made the camera and set that trigger |
| 16:49.41 | ctccromer | i think all i have to do is make a trigger to switch between defaultcamera and that 1 |
| 16:49.49 | ctccromer | didnt see a "switch to camera" action either |
| 16:54.35 | Dustin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXrvUZBvxkU |
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| 16:59.12 | ctccromer | ok wtf. somethin about patch 16. My map was working so that when you move the camera with the mouse, the player's unit looks that way, so you can hold down W and move the mouse and run in circles |
| 16:59.31 | ctccromer | now that doesnt matter, each of WASD only moves in 1 set direction no matter what |
| 16:59.46 | ctccromer | and also the bossbars are wierd and blue >.< but that doesnt matter as much |
| 17:00.15 | ctccromer | and my map is auto-saving the file, rather than auto-saving by making new files |
| 17:00.17 | Phaos | there is no default dialouge texture anymore |
| 17:00.20 | Phaos | as for the camera |
| 17:00.22 | Phaos | not so sure |
| 17:00.23 | Helral | read something about a bug with retrieving camera stuff on the forums. (either sc2mapster or europe.) |
| 17:01.36 | Phaos | this keep items on death through the data editor thing is just totally not working |
| 17:02.10 | Phaos | there are two flags in places that seem to have something to do with it. but don't do anything weither they are flipped or not |
| 17:02.30 | Phaos | in the items them selves "drop item on death" on the inventroy "Item death" flag |
| 17:02.37 | Phaos | both seem to do nothing |
| 17:06.10 | Phaos | mapster is quiet this morning |
| 17:07.21 | nicoli_s | people are too busy playing :P |
| 17:08.49 | Barter | phaos: yeah items are dropping on death no matter what |
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| 17:09.49 | Barter | what Im doing is when a hero dies, I hide the items that are on the exact position as him, then wait the revive time and when he's alive I create them in his inventory and then remove the hidden ones |
| 17:10.51 | nicoli_s | that sucks you have to workaround it like that |
| 17:11.01 | Barter | yeah |
| 17:11.19 | Barter | I guess it will be fixed for release, but until then |
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| 17:11.40 | Barter | cause there is a flag on items to drop on death, so its not intended as default |
| 17:12.12 | Barter | at least the rest of the revive is working perfectly afaik |
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| 17:19.05 | Clord | editor is like made so that... go to make next Dota you kids so we can make tons of money |
| 17:19.06 | Clord | XD |
| 17:19.26 | Clord | as certain maps makes sales... when someones buy game just for map |
| 17:19.36 | hookah | Script failed to compile: Code jump out of bounds (try reducing the size of very large functions or triggers) (See Trigger Editor for more details) |
| 17:19.39 | hookah | any ideas? |
| 17:19.57 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 17:20.09 | ProzaicMuze | kicks yoru scrit in teh balls |
| 17:20.12 | ProzaicMuze | All better |
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| 17:20.16 | ProzaicMuze | sript* even |
| 17:20.20 | ProzaicMuze | your* |
| 17:20.26 | ProzaicMuze | script*** |
| 17:20.29 | ProzaicMuze | fml :( |
| 17:20.30 | Phaos | well items are unfxable thats a shame, but I did get data editor revive working and made the tutorial for it. I am one of the DE pros now *cool shades* |
| 17:21.19 | Ashamed | I feel like every second Earth exist it leaves it more open to people who are stupid. ( I swear my job gets more busy each day that passes! ) |
| 17:21.54 | ProzaicMuze | No color |
| 17:21.57 | ProzaicMuze | your tutorial suxorz |
| 17:22.05 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 17:22.06 | Ashamed | suxorz |
| 17:22.16 | ProzaicMuze | And your job suxorz too |
| 17:22.22 | Ashamed | i know |
| 17:22.26 | Ashamed | i hate the shit |
| 17:22.50 | Phaos | my tutorial isn't as pro formatting as yours no :P but it gets the tutoring done :P |
| 17:22.59 | Ashamed | no it does not |
| 17:23.14 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, definitely doesn't |
| 17:23.22 | ProzaicMuze | I don't see any food appearing on the stand by me |
| 17:23.26 | ProzaicMuze | What kinda tutorial doesn't feed me!? |
| 17:23.42 | Phaos | sorry :( |
| 17:23.47 | Phaos | I'll try harer next time |
| 17:23.56 | Phaos | harder too |
| 17:24.11 | ProzaicMuze | You bettah >:( |
| 17:25.04 | Ashamed | yah |
| 17:25.07 | Ashamed | Phaos |
| 17:25.09 | Ashamed | You bettah |
| 17:25.16 | Ashamed | i don't want these suckage tutorials |
| 17:25.51 | Phaos | hangs his head in shame |
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| 17:26.16 | Ashamed | We still love you Phaos! Now pick that head up and just do better next time! |
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| 17:26.29 | Ashamed | lol |
| 17:26.40 | Ashamed | i don't even know what we are even talking about :) |
| 17:28.12 | ProzaicMuze | I can't even find his tutorial :( |
| 17:28.29 | ProzaicMuze | Maybe it's because I'm too busy stairing and the massive chest on this woman I'm editing pictures of |
| 17:28.31 | ProzaicMuze | I mean seriously |
| 17:28.49 | ProzaicMuze | It's like she's JUST about to strip before each picture |
| 17:29.00 | Phaos | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4705-data-editor-revive-heroes/#p3 |
| 17:29.02 | ProzaicMuze | How am I supposed to edit a picture with ALMOST naked women?! |
| 17:30.46 | Grum | ProzaicMuze: draw a layer of horrible granny titties on the right spot so you can work without being distracted |
| 17:30.56 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 17:31.25 | ProzaicMuze | copy pastes ugly breasts over good looking breasts and asks himself if he is less of a man because of it. |
| 17:32.02 | Grum | i'd say you could only question your sanity based on if you'd still want to nibble them |
| 17:32.38 | ProzaicMuze | :S |
| 17:32.53 | Phaos | what the hell are you editing and can you show me so i can lulz ? |
| 17:32.59 | Ashamed | yah |
| 17:33.05 | Ashamed | i wanna see big boobies |
| 17:33.13 | Grum | google for it :( |
| 17:33.20 | Grum | oh! g(.)(.)gle for it! |
| 17:34.57 | Phaos | right well, I'm going to bed, where I will watch beiders tutorials on scrolling lists and let his voice lull me to sleep like baby in crib |
| 17:36.01 | Helral|away | Grum: not g( . )( . )gle for it? |
| 17:36.01 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 17:36.01 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/heartbreak-ridge/. Heartbreak Ridge. FlopTurnReaver (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 17:36.01 | Helral|away | is away ;p |
| 17:36.01 | Helral|away | cya later all |
| 17:36.01 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/supaplex/. Supaplex. johanw123 (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 17:36.02 | Ashamed | cya |
| 17:36.02 | ProzaicMuze | g ( @ Y @ ) g l e for it |
| 17:36.21 | Ashamed | got some strange boobies there |
| 17:37.37 | Lilianna | o.O |
| 17:37.54 | dukka | oh my |
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| 17:40.02 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 17:40.21 | ProzaicMuze | You's just jealous that google has the biggest of them all |
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| 17:45.45 | RodOfNOD | is the apply color button on the text edit not working? |
| 17:48.13 | Clord | you need cover area you want to color |
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| 17:50.29 | LordAbyss | hello everyone |
| 17:51.48 | RodOfNOD | i did clord it didnt work |
| 17:52.03 | WhiskeeGX | I have both the enGB and enUS clients installed. Is there any way to "convert" the EN one to US? Maybe a registry key for locales and server address, since they are basically the same thing. |
| 17:54.39 | Barter | it is working, I colored some yesterday |
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| 18:00.16 | RodOfNOD | Clord it appears no color settings work anymore :P |
| 18:01.56 | RodOfNOD | or im jnust an idiot one of the two |
| 18:02.49 | RodOfNOD | hehe nope im just an idiot :> |
| 18:07.40 | Lilianna | ProzaicMuze, Did you look into Behavior Levels at all? try and figure em out? |
| 18:08.20 | ProzaicMuze | I actually noticed something one Ability - Behavior |
| 18:08.32 | ProzaicMuze | on* |
| 18:08.52 | ProzaicMuze | There is a reference to Level On and Level Off |
| 18:09.02 | ProzaicMuze | I'm thinkin' Behavior Levels is simply a "switch" |
| 18:09.09 | ProzaicMuze | You should look at it and see if that helps yeh at all |
| 18:10.26 | ProzaicMuze | I think for the event, it simple means "When behavior level is [On/Off]" |
| 18:10.39 | ProzaicMuze | simply*( |
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| 18:11.09 | Lilianna | Hmm |
| 18:11.34 | Lilianna | where was this in? |
| 18:11.44 | Lilianna | in an ability? |
| 18:12.13 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah |
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| 18:12.21 | ProzaicMuze | when making an ability, one of the options is Ability - Behavior |
| 18:12.39 | ProzaicMuze | after making that, look for the fields for Comman - Level On [anything] and Level Off [anything] |
| 18:12.44 | ProzaicMuze | Command* |
| 18:12.55 | Lilianna | ah that might be helpful |
| 18:15.36 | Ashamed | 1 hour and 15 minutes |
| 18:15.41 | Kalekin | Whiskee, still there? |
| 18:15.55 | Lilianna | well, that would be helpful of course if the Gather Ability was like other abilities. xD |
| 18:17.28 | Lilianna | hmm |
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| 18:19.31 | WhiskeeGX | ugh. Blackouts. |
| 18:21.00 | ProzaicMuze | You're trying to make a laser beam show up when you gather minerals, right? |
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| 18:23.50 | Lilianna | I'm trying to make anythings how up right now |
| 18:24.01 | Lilianna | and I noticed normal mining spawns mineral splats |
| 18:24.16 | Lilianna | based on the Resource Behavior Level |
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| 18:25.38 | ProzaicMuze | gimme a min |
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| 18:32.30 | Ashamed | i am bored |
| 18:32.45 | Ashamed | 1 hour left... someone entertain me for an hour |
| 18:33.01 | Ashamed | NOW |
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| 18:34.29 | Demonette | Lol |
| 18:34.42 | TheSecretArts | Vuvuzela button on Youtube GO GO GO |
| 18:34.49 | Demonette | maybe no one can entertain you |
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| 18:35.09 | TheSecretArts | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B2LPxggvqY |
| 18:35.36 | Lilianna | theres been a vuvuzela button on youtube since like the second week of the world cup |
| 18:35.36 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 18:35.46 | TheSecretArts | Yep lol |
| 18:36.13 | TheSecretArts | Maybe we could do an IRC text adventure? lol |
| 18:36.51 | nicoli_s | idle rpg is the shit |
| 18:36.58 | nicoli_s | id love to have a channel here for idle rps |
| 18:37.00 | nicoli_s | rpg* |
| 18:37.15 | Ashamed | lol |
| 18:37.38 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 18:37.40 | Ashamed | Walks into a big room |
| 18:37.42 | ProzaicMuze | we already did yesterday |
| 18:37.49 | ProzaicMuze | rrowland wtf pwned everyone of us :( |
| 18:37.50 | Ashamed | WHATS NEXT |
| 18:37.57 | TheSecretArts | look around the room |
| 18:38.07 | Ashamed | how did you get in there? |
| 18:38.20 | Ashamed | looks at Thesecretarts... says how did you get here? |
| 18:38.24 | Lilianna | I still say we should have a graphical Text RPG in SC2 |
| 18:38.36 | TheSecretArts | I am the Creator! |
| 18:38.39 | Ashamed | you mean like RP? |
| 18:38.54 | Ashamed | lilianna don't worry there will be some |
| 18:39.02 | Lilianna | Well it would be like any of the old text adventures |
| 18:39.11 | Lilianna | but when your in a room you can actually see the room |
| 18:39.13 | Lilianna | with the doors |
| 18:39.16 | TheSecretArts | how do you emote? I forget lol |
| 18:39.20 | Lilianna | you cant see any other room |
| 18:39.37 | Lilianna | but you can see and type at what things are that you see |
| 18:39.41 | Ashamed | I am the Destroyer |
| 18:39.45 | Ashamed | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.54 | TheSecretArts | We should create http://teaching.zachwhalen.net/comics/sites/teaching.zachwhalen.net.comics/files/images/9iw84j.jpg for SC2 ^_^ |
| 18:40.13 | Ashamed | FUCK YEAH |
| 18:40.19 | Ashamed | ... i don't know wtf that is |
| 18:40.27 | Ashamed | but looks pretty funny |
| 18:40.28 | TheSecretArts | FUCK YOU I'M A DRAGON |
| 18:40.37 | Ashamed | NO U |
| 18:40.57 | TheSecretArts | Download the text adventure: http://crabnicholson.forumotion.com/main-announcements-f6/downloading-the-game-t2.htm |
| 18:41.34 | Ashamed | I will never download that |
| 18:41.34 | Ashamed | >< |
| 18:42.13 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/tokyo-rooftops/. Tokyo Rooftops. MiketheSspike (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 18:43.06 | nicoli_s | Sixen:only 6 more maps! |
| 18:43.31 | Sixen | hah |
| 18:43.32 | Sixen | :) |
| 18:43.38 | TheSecretArts | I should probably stop being lazy and actually work on mine -_- |
| 18:45.02 | allenmelon | will there be another patch before phase two ends? |
| 18:45.20 | nicoli_s | id imagine so |
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| 18:45.55 | Barter | only one more week oh god |
| 18:47.55 | xttocs | 6 more maps till what? |
| 18:48.12 | TheSecretArts | I'd play sc2 if it didn't turn my computer into a fireball |
| 18:48.41 | nicoli_s | till we hit 1k maps |
| 18:49.17 | dukka | "WE'RE RICH (in maps) |
| 18:49.23 | xttocs | I can upload a few empty maps for you to approve |
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| 18:52.56 | Sixen | lol |
| 18:53.02 | Sixen | Motive? |
| 18:53.05 | Sixen | You're alive? |
| 18:53.43 | xttocs | ? |
| 18:53.56 | xttocs | oh |
| 18:54.18 | Sixen | lo |
| 18:54.20 | Sixen | ;p* |
| 18:54.45 | Motive | :D |
| 18:55.45 | WhiskeeGX | publishing STILL down in eu. Just... just wow. |
| 18:57.10 | WhiskeeGX | not a single blue post or reply on the forums |
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| 18:58.33 | Motive | Is battle.net stable this time around? :P |
| 19:00.02 | madsquare | map publishing on eu impossible but otherwise it is |
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| 19:07.15 | Triceron | Craaaazy shit |
| 19:08.52 | Motive | Did we ever figure out how to alter the UI, too? |
| 19:09.02 | Motive | Like, in the .SC2Map files |
| 19:11.34 | ProzaicMuze | lmao wtf |
| 19:11.55 | ProzaicMuze | SO lilianna, I got a beam creating when the problem mines. However, it's currentyl shooting into the SW corner of the map |
| 19:12.18 | ProzaicMuze | Doesn't even make sense it knows where to impact and the impact model shows up at the mineral patch. |
| 19:12.33 | Triceron | so... Some guy got shot across from my place this mornin |
| 19:12.54 | Triceron | there were like 5 squad cars parked out there, the whole block sectioned off with yellow tape |
| 19:13.05 | Triceron | and this morning I can see blood on the door from the house across the street :S |
| 19:13.27 | Barter | :| |
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| 19:15.47 | ProzaicMuze | sunnova |
| 19:15.55 | ProzaicMuze | Now I can get it to work the first time it mines, then it breaks |
| 19:15.55 | ProzaicMuze | ghey |
| 19:16.32 | xttocs | Where do you live Triceron? |
| 19:17.04 | xttocs | Canada apparently, so nvm |
| 19:17.20 | xttocs | maybe, whatever |
| 19:18.55 | ProzaicMuze | why the hell do they have it setup for things to shoot to the SW corner by default |
| 19:19.06 | ProzaicMuze | that is the most illogical "default" imaginable |
| 19:19.23 | ProzaicMuze | What's worse is it'll shoot to the SW corner and THEN shoot to the target |
| 19:19.26 | ProzaicMuze | Chaining, if you will |
| 19:19.52 | Triceron | ya canadia |
| 19:26.13 | Lilianna | ProzaicMuze, lol |
| 19:26.23 | ProzaicMuze | It's just silly |
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| 19:26.33 | ProzaicMuze | I've gotta do some more work, but I'll investigate further after that |
| 19:26.42 | ProzaicMuze | But it IS possible to make the beam at the very least |
| 19:27.10 | Lilianna | yah, someone else made a beam too, but it was just stuck on top of the crystals |
| 19:27.17 | Lilianna | I couldnt really get it working at all for some reason |
| 19:27.42 | Lilianna | Also maybe the SW corner is 0,0 coordinate? |
| 19:28.06 | ProzaicMuze | IT is |
| 19:28.11 | ProzaicMuze | which is what's stupid |
| 19:28.25 | ProzaicMuze | There is no reason to shoot to the map origin unless specified to |
| 19:28.38 | ProzaicMuze | Since it's shooting there and THEN to the crystal |
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| 19:28.54 | Lilianna | weird. o.o |
| 19:29.18 | ProzaicMuze | indeed |
| 19:29.31 | ProzaicMuze | If it's having a problem, it shouldn't be hitting the target after said problem |
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| 19:30.58 | Lilianna | I guess I should have experimented with making a beam on normal minerals first |
| 19:31.04 | Lilianna | before going to my custom one. c.c |
| 19:35.43 | Motive | Ugh |
| 19:35.52 | Motive | "The requested publish name has unacceptable words" |
| 19:35.57 | Motive | I put in "Abc" ffs. |
| 19:36.46 | nicoli_s | lol |
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| 19:40.53 | Motive | Does anyone have like |
| 19:40.57 | Motive | a list of all the inappropriate words? |
| 19:41.03 | Motive | I assume there would be one somewhere in the SC2 files |
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| 19:41.38 | Lilianna | it could just be a server side list |
| 19:42.15 | Motive | Prolly not. |
| 19:42.28 | Motive | I mean it's probably checked server-side but the client does the gruntwork first just to avoid wasting cycles |
| 19:42.33 | greg | anyone know why when i upgrade some skills/structures on the left hand side of my screen an alert is displayed with the icon and tooltip Cancel? |
| 19:42.35 | Motive | kind of like WoW |
| 19:46.28 | Motive | ... |
| 19:46.36 | Motive | I just made a blank new Mod, 0 changes whatsoever |
| 19:46.50 | Motive | and tried to name it "Abc", "Simple", "Don't Fail", and a ariety of other innocuous names for publishing |
| 19:46.51 | Motive | and |
| 19:46.57 | Motive | it apparently still has unacceptable words. |
| 19:47.01 | Motive | -.- |
| 19:51.28 | RodOfNOD | i know it seems strange but i have made the coolest button on the planet |
| 19:51.40 | Barter | it checks the description too |
| 19:51.56 | RodOfNOD | lol motive that is sad |
| 19:52.11 | Motive | eh it got worse |
| 19:52.14 | Motive | I can't publish ANYTHING now. |
| 19:52.18 | Motive | It's all just bad words |
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| 19:52.29 | Motive | Maps I could publish before fine just don't publish |
| 19:52.29 | RodOfNOD | uv violated blizzards rules |
| 19:52.39 | RodOfNOD | and now u will pay |
| 19:52.56 | RodOfNOD | try killing the mod u added if its still in the list |
| 19:53.21 | Motive | not even talking about mods anymore. I just can't get ANYTHING to publish. |
| 19:53.35 | Motive | and apparently I can't open .SC2Components lists because it doesn't think the file is there |
| 19:53.40 | Motive | even though I'm staring at it in windows explorer |
| 19:53.41 | Motive | :/ |
| 19:54.05 | RodOfNOD | well the file was damaged maybe so close everything and replace it with a copy that u should have :P |
| 19:54.14 | RodOfNOD | what im saying is the MOD in the list |
| 19:54.19 | Arthas- | eh? |
| 19:54.24 | Arthas- | broken blizzards rules? |
| 19:54.36 | RodOfNOD | yes he used evil words like ABC |
| 19:54.37 | Arthas- | i knew nothing good would come out of publishing :p |
| 19:54.43 | Arthas- | ah |
| 19:54.45 | Arthas- | abc and defense |
| 19:54.58 | RodOfNOD | well defense i get cuz it has FEN in it |
| 19:55.00 | RodOfNOD | and thats evil |
| 19:55.05 | RodOfNOD | ooh and EFE |
| 19:55.08 | RodOfNOD | thats also evil |
| 19:55.12 | Arthas- | defense is clearly banned due to the fact that blizzard will release defense of aiur 7 days after game release |
| 19:55.27 | RodOfNOD | the part that sucks is we dont have a place to actually report bugs |
| 19:55.36 | Arthas- | map forums are up again |
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| 19:55.40 | RodOfNOD | link? |
| 19:55.45 | Arthas- | but the bug threads get moved to page 17 in a matter of minutes' |
| 19:55.47 | Arthas- | us or eu? |
| 19:55.53 | RodOfNOD | us pl;ease |
| 19:56.01 | Arthas- | http://forums.battle.net/index.html?sid=5000 |
| 19:56.08 | Motive | It's not just mods though, Rod |
| 19:56.25 | Arthas- | time for me to actually play some sc2 |
| 19:56.29 | Arthas- | im so rusty.... :) |
| 19:56.39 | Motive | My blank terrain-only map with a name of "Hello" has unacceptable words |
| 19:56.40 | Motive | Wtf? |
| 19:56.43 | RodOfNOD | holy crap thats alot of bugs |
| 19:56.54 | RodOfNOD | motive do u have any mods in the list yes or no |
| 19:56.57 | Motive | No |
| 19:57.00 | RodOfNOD | ok |
| 19:57.08 | RodOfNOD | i was thinking the bad mod was causing the issues |
| 19:57.14 | greg | anyone know why this is happening when i upgrade some abilities or structures? (only happens to about half) http://imgur.com/L32qO.jpg |
| 19:57.23 | RodOfNOD | i haent published yet so i dont know what can and cant be done |
| 19:57.25 | Motive | It's just Blizzard making me cry some more |
| 19:57.55 | RodOfNOD | lol nice greg |
| 19:58.04 | greg | i have spent 2 hours trying to figure this out |
| 19:58.09 | greg | it is a completely serious question |
| 19:58.11 | greg | =p |
| 19:58.28 | RodOfNOD | well greg try to isolate problems like that |
| 19:58.33 | greg | oh, i have |
| 19:58.36 | RodOfNOD | otherwise they are harder to report to bliz |
| 19:58.43 | RodOfNOD | can we upload maps on the bug report? |
| 19:58.57 | RodOfNOD | i guess we could upload them elsewhere and give a link |
| 19:59.04 | Motive | Bahaha |
| 19:59.07 | Motive | I figured it out, I think |
| 19:59.18 | Motive | It won't publish if you change the map name on the publish screen |
| 19:59.21 | Motive | Which makes no sense at all to me. |
| 19:59.25 | Lilianna | lol |
| 20:00.55 | Motive | Now the question is |
| 20:00.58 | Motive | how do you change the name on a mod |
| 20:01.01 | Motive | without that button |
| 20:01.06 | Motive | given that there is no Map Info pane? -.- |
| 20:01.06 | WhiskeeGX | map info |
| 20:01.09 | WhiskeeGX | oh |
| 20:01.09 | WhiskeeGX | :P |
| 20:01.39 | WhiskeeGX | no map info pane... err... why? |
| 20:01.49 | Motive | because |
| 20:01.51 | Motive | they're blizzard |
| 20:02.00 | Motive | and they're pioneering in making things that worked fine before, not work now. |
| 20:02.00 | Motive | :) |
| 20:02.09 | WhiskeeGX | true that |
| 20:02.09 | RodOfNOD | i have this button that u cant not hit its just so damn cool |
| 20:02.29 | Lilianna | RodOfNOD, Don't Touch this Button? |
| 20:02.32 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 20:02.38 | RodOfNOD | i should relabel it that |
| 20:02.41 | RodOfNOD | it really is addictive |
| 20:03.09 | RodOfNOD | all it does is play the death animation for the selected unit but it is so addictive when your bored and when u mash it like 20 times |
| 20:03.18 | RodOfNOD | it really is so damn cool |
| 20:03.58 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 20:04.15 | RodOfNOD | Lilianna i just changed the tooltip to say that |
| 20:04.19 | RodOfNOD | ty |
| 20:04.21 | Lilianna | Now make it play the burning death animation too at a 25% chance? |
| 20:04.28 | RodOfNOD | ooh |
| 20:04.31 | RodOfNOD | good idea |
| 20:04.33 | RodOfNOD | very good idea |
| 20:04.33 | Lilianna | and poison at 10% |
| 20:04.36 | RodOfNOD | oooh |
| 20:04.39 | RodOfNOD | forgot about those |
| 20:04.43 | Lilianna | hehe |
| 20:04.44 | RodOfNOD | do all units have those? |
| 20:04.52 | Lilianna | all but mechanical I think |
| 20:06.25 | Lilianna | though, I dont know about zerg air units |
| 20:06.34 | Lilianna | since the acid/fire attacks dont normally hit air |
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| 20:13.25 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/planeswars-alpha-boss-demo/. Planeswars Alpha Boss Demo. JPLetters (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 20:14.39 | nicoli_s | 5 more maps till 1k! |
| 20:16.10 | P_R_Deltoid | brb submitting 5 shit maps |
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| 20:17.02 | Lilianna | I could create a map template, for a map idea I have, but it wont be a map uploaded yet, does that count? |
| 20:17.24 | P_R_Deltoid | What is your idea |
| 20:17.51 | Lilianna | Well it would be an arena like map I suppose |
| 20:18.13 | Lilianna | Where your weapons are chosen for you based on what crystals you mine, them being different colors and all |
| 20:18.21 | Lilianna | otherwise you have a pea shooter |
| 20:18.31 | Lilianna | or melee, depending |
| 20:19.13 | ProzaicMuze | I could easily post Proof of Concept maps of all the abilities I've been making |
| 20:19.15 | ProzaicMuze | that's like 20+ rofl |
| 20:19.25 | Lilianna | lol |
| 20:19.30 | P_R_Deltoid | only post 5 and then turn off map submission |
| 20:19.37 | Muffin_ | DERP A REAL PEOPLE! |
| 20:19.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Hey ProzaicMuze |
| 20:19.46 | P_R_Deltoid | where the fuck is that tutorial |
| 20:19.52 | Lilianna | I ate it |
| 20:20.03 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, is this true? |
| 20:20.22 | P_R_Deltoid | You're slacking, ProzaicMuze, where is the week 3 thread |
| 20:20.26 | P_R_Deltoid | where is the tutorial |
| 20:20.27 | ProzaicMuze | The tutorial is going up later tonight |
| 20:20.29 | P_R_Deltoid | where are the winners |
| 20:20.35 | ProzaicMuze | And if you notice it says until "Monday" to vote |
| 20:20.41 | ProzaicMuze | meaning you can vote today too |
| 20:20.42 | P_R_Deltoid | It is monday |
| 20:20.46 | P_R_Deltoid | pshh |
| 20:20.51 | ProzaicMuze | Until Sunday would mean voting ends Monday |
| 20:20.59 | P_R_Deltoid | Until Monday implies that you can vote until it becomes Monday |
| 20:21.10 | greg | proz: any idea why this is happening for some upgrades? http://imgur.com/L32qO.jpg |
| 20:21.23 | greg | i looked everywhere =/ |
| 20:21.34 | ProzaicMuze | The upgrade simple alert? |
| 20:21.38 | P_R_Deltoid | The tooltip is set wrong!@ |
| 20:21.40 | greg | yeah |
| 20:21.40 | ProzaicMuze | symbol* |
| 20:21.42 | P_R_Deltoid | You are welcome. |
| 20:21.51 | ProzaicMuze | Because you have an alerty set for the upgrade. |
| 20:21.53 | ProzaicMuze | alert* |
| 20:22.17 | P_R_Deltoid | Oh wait, you want to know why it's doing the alert or why the alert is broken? |
| 20:22.18 | greg | there is no upgrade for transfusion |
| 20:22.25 | greg | why the alert is broken |
| 20:22.28 | greg | i have 3 skills |
| 20:22.33 | greg | contaminate, fungal growth, and transfusion |
| 20:22.37 | greg | it is only doing this for transfusion |
| 20:22.40 | P_R_Deltoid | Well |
| 20:22.52 | P_R_Deltoid | The upgrade works? The alert just shows the wrong tooltip and icon? |
| 20:22.56 | greg | yes. |
| 20:23.14 | P_R_Deltoid | Well then, the obvious answer would be the tooltip isn't set correctly. |
| 20:23.20 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 20:23.21 | ProzaicMuze | Deltoid |
| 20:23.23 | ProzaicMuze | you're confused |
| 20:23.25 | ProzaicMuze | shush |
| 20:23.30 | P_R_Deltoid | Sorry, sir. |
| 20:23.34 | ProzaicMuze | Greg, there is a feature for abilities to show alerts when used |
| 20:23.36 | ProzaicMuze | Like with Nuke |
| 20:23.39 | ProzaicMuze | so other peopel know it's happening |
| 20:23.45 | ProzaicMuze | It's at the top of the ability. |
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| 20:24.26 | RodOfNOD | weee |
| 20:24.55 | P_R_Deltoid | MAYBE HE WANTS AN ALERT, YOU BIG BUTT |
| 20:24.57 | P_R_Deltoid | >: ( |
| 20:24.58 | greg | prozaicmuze: http://imgur.com/HRJG6.png |
| 20:25.04 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 20:25.05 | greg | where in there? |
| 20:26.32 | ProzaicMuze | hrm |
| 20:26.34 | ProzaicMuze | check the button instead |
| 20:26.41 | ProzaicMuze | one of the tabs has an alert for the ability at the top |
| 20:27.01 | greg | yeah alert icon |
| 20:27.05 | greg | it is set to transfusion |
| 20:27.09 | greg | which is why i'm confused |
| 20:27.24 | ProzaicMuze | Remove that and the alert will go away lol |
| 20:27.50 | greg | i want the alert though? |
| 20:28.00 | greg | just for the icon and tooltip to be better |
| 20:28.06 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, owned |
| 20:28.08 | ProzaicMuze | :( |
| 20:28.19 | greg | lol yeah i was just wondering why the text and icon was wrong |
| 20:28.26 | ProzaicMuze | kills Deltoid |
| 20:28.34 | P_R_Deltoid | Get back to your tutorial making, slave |
| 20:28.37 | P_R_Deltoid | cracks his whip |
| 20:28.51 | greg | nuu don't say that deltoid |
| 20:28.53 | greg | i still need his help |
| 20:28.54 | greg | lol |
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| 20:29.15 | P_R_Deltoid | After you help greg |
| 20:29.19 | P_R_Deltoid | cracks his whip again |
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| 20:29.40 | greg | bdsm.. |
| 20:29.47 | ThunderLord | what is the differance between supplys made and supplys used? |
| 20:29.52 | P_R_Deltoid | well |
| 20:29.56 | P_R_Deltoid | supply made is like a supply depot |
| 20:30.00 | P_R_Deltoid | supply used is like a units supply cost |
| 20:30.09 | P_R_Deltoid | so one adds to the total allowed, one uses a fraction of the total allowed |
| 20:30.23 | ThunderLord | what is the supplys unit? |
| 20:30.34 | ThunderLord | im looking in triggers, under player propertys |
| 20:30.45 | ProzaicMuze | greg, link me your button fields |
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| 20:31.25 | greg | http://imgur.com/1uxdx.png\ |
| 20:31.27 | greg | http://imgur.com/1uxdx.png ** |
| 20:31.39 | ThunderLord | i need to reference the supplys in use (like would be 3 if player had 3 marines) and the supplys max (like a supply depot makes 10) |
| 20:31.47 | greg | err, wrong ability rofl.. |
| 20:31.57 | greg | the other one is the same really except with the transfusion icon |
| 20:32.07 | ProzaicMuze | link it lol |
| 20:32.14 | greg | ahh ok |
| 20:32.17 | ProzaicMuze | "the same really" doesn't count ;) |
| 20:32.54 | greg | http://imgur.com/dDnDC.png |
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| 20:37.57 | ProzaicMuze | hrm |
| 20:38.15 | ProzaicMuze | so is it say you "canceled" something or does the alert icon become clickable and says you can cancel something? |
| 20:38.42 | RodOfNOD | whats a unit that causes death by poison? |
| 20:39.05 | ProzaicMuze | poisonous? |
| 20:39.26 | RodOfNOD | ThunderLord the game doesnt show how much supply a unit that has a positive supplies actually supplies |
| 20:39.48 | greg | prozaicmuze: it does the same thing as the other alert icons -> it pans you to your hero when you click it |
| 20:39.50 | RodOfNOD | i think this is because u cant get the info on the tooltip because its in a different object cuz i tried |
| 20:39.59 | RodOfNOD | ProzaicMuze are u asking me a ? |
| 20:40.01 | greg | also, i changed the alert icon to that of fungal growths and the cancel icon is still there |
| 20:40.36 | ProzaicMuze | lol no, you asked what a unit that causes death by poison is. I answered poisonous ;) |
| 20:40.51 | RodOfNOD | and what unit type uses that |
| 20:40.54 | ProzaicMuze | @greg - have you looked the cancel ability/button? |
| 20:40.56 | RodOfNOD | has that as a weapon |
| 20:41.01 | greg | actually yes i have |
| 20:41.06 | greg | i thought the same thing |
| 20:41.10 | greg | to work backwards |
| 20:41.17 | greg | and then i found out that it is used by 200+ abilities |
| 20:41.18 | ProzaicMuze | Have you looked at the cancel portion of each ability? |
| 20:41.25 | greg | so blizzard's editor wouldn't let me see the rest |
| 20:41.29 | ProzaicMuze | The field beneath execute in the window that opens. |
| 20:41.49 | greg | yes |
| 20:41.51 | greg | i have looked there |
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| 20:41.55 | greg | it is the same for all of my abiliteis |
| 20:42.48 | greg | this isn't just for abilities btw |
| 20:42.56 | greg | photon cannon -> advanced photon cannon does this too |
| 20:43.02 | greg | yet pylon -> advanced pylon doesn't |
| 20:43.04 | greg | it's quite odd |
| 20:43.14 | greg | adv photon -> prismatic, etc. |
| 20:43.22 | RodOfNOD | ProzaicMuze the answer is baneling :P |
| 20:43.37 | ProzaicMuze | It kills by acid |
| 20:43.57 | ProzaicMuze | Um, have you made any custom triggers by chance? |
| 20:44.09 | greg | my friend does all the trigger work for the map |
| 20:44.13 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 20:44.15 | greg | but yeah |
| 20:44.16 | greg | he has |
| 20:44.21 | ProzaicMuze | Then I think he has a trigger that's causing the problem |
| 20:44.30 | greg | i wouldn't be surprised |
| 20:44.30 | ProzaicMuze | Mainly because I have never had that problem and I've never made a trigger. |
| 20:44.42 | ProzaicMuze | It's likely that he has a trigger that is set to announce certain abilities |
| 20:45.02 | greg | i don't think he did that |
| 20:45.03 | ProzaicMuze | And it's grabbing abilities it shouldn't. That would also explain why the icon is messed up because I believe you have to list the icon to display when using triggers. |
| 20:45.26 | ProzaicMuze | lol well run it by him and have him check the triggers. |
| 20:45.33 | greg | just asked him on vent |
| 20:45.37 | greg | he did not |
| 20:45.41 | greg | also there are not many triggers |
| 20:45.45 | greg | i just looked through them |
| 20:45.49 | ProzaicMuze | The alternative is to say it IS his fault and make him fix it ;P |
| 20:45.55 | ProzaicMuze | it only takes one |
| 20:46.32 | greg | i have an idea |
| 20:46.36 | greg | i will make a test map |
| 20:46.43 | greg | and make photon cannon upgrade to adv photon cannon |
| 20:46.48 | greg | and see if the cancel icon comes up |
| 20:46.54 | greg | hey maybe it's an actor problem or something |
| 20:47.14 | RodOfNOD | is there death by something else besides acid or fire or regular? |
| 20:47.24 | RodOfNOD | talking about the death animation |
| 20:47.43 | ProzaicMuze | it's possible |
| 20:48.03 | ProzaicMuze | fire, acid, eviscerate, freeze, blast etc |
| 20:48.14 | RodOfNOD | are there animations for this? |
| 20:48.24 | ProzaicMuze | Depending on the unit, yes |
| 20:48.35 | RodOfNOD | ok well where is that actual death type set in the weapon |
| 20:48.36 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 20:48.46 | ProzaicMuze | Look for the field that says Normal |
| 20:48.58 | ProzaicMuze | Not the name, but its value |
| 20:49.03 | RodOfNOD | k |
| 20:49.07 | ProzaicMuze | And it's on the damage |
| 20:49.09 | ProzaicMuze | Not the weapon. |
| 20:49.40 | RodOfNOD | did u mean effect? |
| 20:49.54 | RodOfNOD | ty found it |
| 20:49.54 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, Effect - Damage |
| 20:49.56 | ProzaicMuze | np |
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| 20:53.05 | greg | lol |
| 20:53.08 | greg | obviously it works on the test map |
| 20:53.11 | greg | >.> |
| 20:57.19 | ThunderLord | ugh i gots a question |
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| 20:58.19 | ThunderLord | i need to count the "Supply Overflow" of team one and compare it to the "Supply overflow" of team 2 |
| 20:58.25 | ThunderLord | i tried this, but it is not working |
| 20:58.35 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen Sixen |
| 20:58.38 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (2d 20h 36m 52s) #wowuidev (2d 20h 36m 52s). Has said a total of 238 messages. Is idling for 2h 4m 18s, last said: ';p*'. |
| 20:58.38 | ThunderLord | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:03.05 | ThunderLord | anyone? |
| 21:03.14 | greg | ProzaicMuze: for the photon cannnon upgrade it has the correct alert icon but the wrong tooltip (the tooltip is just Detector and that's it) |
| 21:03.25 | greg | also i removed the alert icon for transfusion and the cancel icon is still there |
| 21:03.31 | greg | it seems like a link issue somewhere but i'm not sure |
| 21:03.41 | ProzaicMuze | Is this in your test map or the current map? |
| 21:03.46 | greg | current map |
| 21:03.50 | greg | sadly |
| 21:03.54 | ThunderLord | is "Supplys Limit" the same as the max supply limit? like 200? |
| 21:06.14 | Motive | I'm hex editing my SC2Mod file, because Blizzard was too short-sighted to put in a way to change it's name, and it won't publish at all because of that. -.- |
| 21:06.18 | Motive | God. |
| 21:06.26 | Motive | A hex editor, to change it's name. |
| 21:07.05 | Barter | hmm, you can save it as .sc2components so it saves as a folder instead of .sc2map |
| 21:07.09 | Motive | yeah |
| 21:07.12 | Barter | if that helps |
| 21:07.12 | Motive | but you have to edit DocumentHeader |
| 21:07.16 | Motive | which isn't plaintext |
| 21:07.19 | Motive | so hex editor has to be used |
| 21:07.19 | Barter | oh |
| 21:07.19 | Motive | :/ |
| 21:07.23 | Barter | =/ |
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| 21:10.35 | TheLaughingMan | Hmm |
| 21:10.37 | TheLaughingMan | Interesting |
| 21:11.27 | Motive | haha |
| 21:11.31 | Motive | hex editor to the rescue! I can publish! |
| 21:11.39 | Motive | Even if it made me lose even more faith in Blizzard. |
| 21:13.17 | Motive | hooray it worked |
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| 21:27.10 | Demonette | Someone know how to do a custom weapon description? |
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| 21:30.40 | Demonette | Mmmmhhh |
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| 21:32.04 | Muffin_ | HORWO |
| 21:32.08 | Muffin_ | ? |
| 21:32.11 | Muffin_ | HEWWO? |
| 21:33.08 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 21:33.55 | Muffin_ | hel. |
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| 21:36.25 | slightlyrandom | EU publishing? Yay or nay |
| 21:37.25 | WhiskeeGX | nay |
| 21:37.30 | slightlyrandom | Weee! |
| 21:37.56 | nicoli_s | for those of you who like FPS games, at our site(curse.com) we have give aways for beta keys for the new medal of honor game |
| 21:39.55 | slightlyrandom | Whats different about this one? |
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| 21:40.54 | nicoli_s | dunno havent tried it yet |
| 21:41.06 | wOlfLinG | :O Anyone else think the 3DS looks epic? |
| 21:44.38 | Barter | the new MoH is bad company 2 + modern warfare |
| 21:44.45 | Barter | basically |
| 21:44.48 | slightlyrandom | Meh |
| 21:44.50 | Barter | its kinda meh |
| 21:44.51 | slightlyrandom | Far as I |
| 21:44.59 | Barter | I rather play bc2 |
| 21:45.08 | slightlyrandom | 'm concerned, WW2 FPS games have been the same for the last 7 years |
| 21:45.25 | WhiskeeGX | well WW2 hasn't changed yet :D |
| 21:46.30 | Sixen | sup |
| 21:47.03 | xttocs | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.13 | Sixen | I was talking to him yesterday |
| 21:47.25 | nicoli_s | yah he was here |
| 21:47.49 | xttocs | mmkay, thanks |
| 21:48.07 | Sixen | xttocs has time now? :) |
| 21:48.14 | xttocs | haha, no |
| 21:48.29 | ProzaicMuze | So I'm just gonna toss this out there, but for this weeks requests I'd like to expand to Triggers as well. Obviously I can't write capable tutorials on that yet, so I'm wondering if anyone (can be multiple) would be willing to write a tutorial for Trigger topics if they are submitted this week and win 2 weeks from now? |
| 21:48.36 | xttocs | If I get hired then maybe I can come up wiht some time |
| 21:48.38 | ProzaicMuze | It would be an ongoing thing and you'd have a week to write the tutorial. |
| 21:49.05 | xttocs | anyway, gotta reboot |
| 21:49.08 | xttocs | brb |
| 21:49.11 | TheLaughingMan | ckknight, can I PM you? |
| 21:49.32 | ProzaicMuze | There isn't a ckknight in here lol |
| 21:49.41 | Sixen | Sure ther eis :p |
| 21:49.44 | nicoli_s | he might not be watching the chat TheLaughingMan, hes right next to me though if its important |
| 21:49.58 | TheLaughingMan | I needed to ask him some questions about the coding of the website |
| 21:50.14 | Motive | Has anyone tried publishing and playing a map dependent on a Mod? |
| 21:50.16 | nicoli_s | what about it? i could probably answer yer questions |
| 21:50.32 | TheLaughingMan | Do you know then how to view the forums in JSON |
| 21:51.08 | slightlyrandom | I just realized that this game needs more sillyness |
| 21:51.14 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 21:51.18 | ProzaicMuze | no takers for Trigger Tutorials? |
| 21:51.29 | slightlyrandom | I don't think I'm qualified ProzaicMuze ;) |
| 21:51.45 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 21:51.46 | ProzaicMuze | lazy bums |
| 21:51.47 | ProzaicMuze | all of yeh |
| 21:51.55 | ProzaicMuze | I'll just have to keep spamming then until someone is |
| 21:52.07 | nicoli_s | id do it if i had used the trigger editor before :P |
| 21:52.12 | nicoli_s | raw galaxy is where its at! |
| 21:52.59 | slightlyrandom | I can do something about the basic stuff |
| 21:53.19 | slightlyrandom | But really, hasn't it been done already ? |
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| 21:53.34 | LordAbyss | if i wanted to create a beam that hits a target when an ability is cast, do i need the generic attack and the beam actors or jsut beam actor? |
| 21:54.50 | Cromalic | anyone experienced with uploading youtube vids? |
| 21:55.51 | ProzaicMuze | @Abyss - Depends on if the ability does damage or not. |
| 21:56.10 | LordAbyss | its a channeled ability that pulses using persistent and does damage |
| 21:58.19 | ProzaicMuze | Then no |
| 21:58.28 | ProzaicMuze | Just make a Beam with "continuous" triggered |
| 21:58.40 | ProzaicMuze | and tie it to Ability.[name].Start and Ability.[name].Stop |
| 21:58.52 | ProzaicMuze | I "think" my actors tutorial covers that if needed |
| 21:58.58 | LordAbyss | ok |
| 21:59.58 | LordAbyss | do you not have to type in site operations anymore? |
| 22:03.24 | ProzaicMuze | nope |
| 22:03.26 | ProzaicMuze | They changed it |
| 22:03.31 | ProzaicMuze | Made it easier to notice that you can use multiple now |
| 22:05.30 | nicoli_s | ugh, im not looking to tying my relationship system into actors |
| 22:06.01 | nicoli_s | just hooked buttons into it, so now when you clone a unit, you can also clone the button that references it, and change its name, tooltip, hotkey, etc |
| 22:07.12 | RodOfNOD | cool nic |
| 22:07.17 | Motive | Has anyone gotten it so you can play a map on battle.net 2.0 that has a published mod dependency? |
| 22:07.23 | Motive | I just get "Unable to open map" and have to restart the game. |
| 22:07.32 | Motive | It's rather frustrating. |
| 22:07.41 | RodOfNOD | blizzard is going to wait for mod support till december :> |
| 22:07.51 | Motive | Wait, that's official? |
| 22:08.12 | RodOfNOD | lol sorry no didnt mean to scare u |
| 22:08.16 | Motive | Ugh. :/ |
| 22:08.21 | RodOfNOD | but i wouldnt be surprised |
| 22:08.22 | Motive | It's just frustrating that we're like |
| 22:08.24 | RodOfNOD | if its not in first release |
| 22:08.26 | Motive | 2 weeks from release or something |
| 22:08.31 | Motive | and I can't even use a mod file in my map |
| 22:08.32 | RodOfNOD | trust me i feel ur pain |
| 22:08.34 | Motive | or publish w/o a hex editor. |
| 22:08.50 | RodOfNOD | how does using a hex editor work? |
| 22:09.02 | Motive | You basically just see everything byte by byte |
| 22:09.23 | Motive | most also have a bar along the side with their ASCII equivilents, so you can pick out text |
| 22:09.41 | Motive | so I'm using that to rename my maps, re-save, re-import, and then finally, publish w/o a naming issue on the mod |
| 22:09.41 | nicoli_s | i should just add .sc2mod support to MWE to get around that |
| 22:10.02 | Motive | Do that and I will definitely use MWE. :P |
| 22:10.09 | Motive | Galaxy Edit is making me cry lately. |
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| 22:10.37 | nicoli_s | we are looking at doing a public beta test of MWE maybe later this week |
| 22:12.56 | RodOfNOD | motive i know what a hex editor is lol im asking why do u need it sorry to not be clear |
| 22:13.09 | Motive | Ah ok Lol |
| 22:13.16 | RodOfNOD | as in what files are u editing and why |
| 22:13.17 | Motive | Basically, when you hit New -> Mod |
| 22:13.25 | Motive | it gives you the name "Just Another Starcraft 2 Mod" or something |
| 22:13.32 | Motive | this name also just happens to be an illegal publishing name |
| 22:13.41 | Motive | so when you go to publish you get two illegal name errors |
| 22:13.53 | Motive | one you can fix by just renaming it in that dialogue |
| 22:14.06 | Motive | the other, though, is in the DocumentHeader |
| 22:14.16 | Sn0wbie | http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9585/thisisfootbaaaaa.png |
| 22:14.19 | Motive | which isn't plaintext, so you have to save it as a componentlist, edit that and something else |
| 22:14.21 | Sn0wbie | THIS IS FOOTBALLL |
| 22:14.23 | Motive | and then save it, put it back into .SC2Mod |
| 22:14.25 | Motive | and THEN publish |
| 22:14.26 | Motive | :/ |
| 22:14.40 | Motive | which could all ofc be avoided if they had |
| 22:14.44 | Motive | Mod Info like Map Info |
| 22:14.45 | Motive | for the map name |
| 22:14.49 | Motive | or if their rename feature actually worked |
| 22:15.41 | RodOfNOD | wow |
| 22:15.47 | RodOfNOD | nice perserverience |
| 22:15.54 | Motive | Lol, it didn't pay off |
| 22:16.01 | Motive | "Unable to open map" error on any map that has a published dependency |
| 22:16.03 | Motive | :) |
| 22:16.12 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 22:16.16 | Motive | So I have a mod published, but it can't be used at all |
| 22:16.16 | Motive | woot? |
| 22:16.23 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 22:16.35 | RodOfNOD | wwell my guess would be they didnt want u to atm |
| 22:16.47 | Motive | if they don't want us to, then it should give us a mod publishing error like |
| 22:16.50 | RodOfNOD | i mean if mods dont support triggers then im not that interested in them |
| 22:16.50 | Motive | "Temporarily disabled" |
| 22:16.59 | Motive | My mod only has a few custom units |
| 22:17.03 | Motive | nothing even remotely complicated |
| 22:17.04 | RodOfNOD | what good is a mod that only has custom units |
| 22:17.05 | Motive | gah |
| 22:17.10 | RodOfNOD | i know ur testing |
| 22:17.11 | allenmellon | if you delete your beta game from your bnet account, can someone else use the key afterwards? |
| 22:17.12 | Motive | a lot of good |
| 22:17.14 | RodOfNOD | but talking practical use |
| 22:17.20 | Motive | I have a bunch of maps that will use the exact same unit set |
| 22:17.21 | Motive | :) |
| 22:17.23 | Motive | so |
| 22:17.25 | Motive | it's basically a requirement |
| 22:17.33 | RodOfNOD | yes thats great for u |
| 22:17.39 | RodOfNOD | but im talking why would i want to use ur mod |
| 22:17.47 | Motive | I doubt anyone would |
| 22:17.48 | RodOfNOD | i get why the same person wants to use his own mod |
| 22:17.51 | RodOfNOD | that smy point |
| 22:17.53 | Motive | But it's not just for me |
| 22:17.58 | Motive | I'm running a community-oriented effort |
| 22:17.58 | RodOfNOD | where as if they allowed triggers |
| 22:18.02 | RodOfNOD | then u could make a SC1 mod |
| 22:18.05 | Motive | so the mod will be open to other map makers who make similar roleplaying maps |
| 22:18.11 | RodOfNOD | and people could make their own terrain |
| 22:18.18 | RodOfNOD | and all would work without exposing the triggers |
| 22:18.22 | Motive | yep, that's kind of what I'm doing. :) |
| 22:18.31 | RodOfNOD | right but u dont want the triggers exposed |
| 22:18.35 | RodOfNOD | for many reasons |
| 22:18.39 | Motive | I can do that fairly simply |
| 22:18.46 | Motive | just put the triggers in .galaxy files in the mod |
| 22:18.54 | Motive | then have the person add an include and run a single method |
| 22:18.56 | Motive | :) |
| 22:19.01 | RodOfNOD | i know u can make it work |
| 22:19.11 | RodOfNOD | what im saying is i dont want them to SEE the triggers |
| 22:19.17 | RodOfNOD | i want that be protected |
| 22:19.17 | Motive | oh well yeah |
| 22:19.23 | Motive | but obfuscation will never work Lol |
| 22:19.28 | Motive | Look at SC2's map "protection" |
| 22:19.31 | Motive | it's all just complete shit. |
| 22:19.35 | ScytheBlade1 | so, opinions |
| 22:19.37 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/SC2/map.png |
| 22:19.38 | RodOfNOD | well that will be fixed i hope |
| 22:19.41 | Motive | doubt it. LOl |
| 22:19.44 | ScytheBlade1 | how should I build out the rest of that map? |
| 22:19.48 | RodOfNOD | why wont obsfucation work btw? |
| 22:19.49 | ScytheBlade1 | (melee, either 1v1/2v2/etc) |
| 22:20.03 | Motive | well it COULD work |
| 22:20.08 | Motive | but from what we've seen in the past, it won't. |
| 22:20.21 | Motive | Not with how Blizzard does it. |
| 22:20.38 | RodOfNOD | well i dont see how it cant |
| 22:20.44 | RodOfNOD | otherwise any work nic is doing is a complete waste |
| 22:21.01 | RodOfNOD | and mind |
| 22:21.22 | RodOfNOD | if we cant take a variable called say lv_thidoesthis and convert it to a0912318232 |
| 22:21.37 | RodOfNOD | then i dont see how we can have inserted jass |
| 22:21.42 | RodOfNOD | and since im pretty sure we can do that |
| 22:21.44 | RodOfNOD | grr galaxy |
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| 22:30.18 | nicoli_s | hey `MindWorX:xttocs was looking for ya |
| 22:30.32 | `MindWorX | Seems to be offline now |
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| 22:32.21 | `MindWorX | pokes nicoli_s |
| 22:32.27 | RodOfNOD | hi `MindWorX and heysparky |
| 22:32.38 | `MindWorX | Hey RodOfAwesome |
| 22:32.44 | RodOfNOD | lol ty |
| 22:32.49 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 22:32.55 | heysparky | howdy Rod |
| 22:33.21 | RodOfNOD | hey Motive, `MindWorX might be interested in ur work this morn |
| 22:33.30 | Motive | my work? |
| 22:33.34 | `MindWorX | Huh? |
| 22:33.39 | `MindWorX | I'm interested in "work" ? :P |
| 22:34.01 | `MindWorX | I dislike "work", and would very much avoid "work". "fun" is a concept i like, lets do "fun" instead |
| 22:34.10 | `MindWorX | Or "sex", however i'm yet to try the new version of "sex" |
| 22:34.14 | Motive | Lolol |
| 22:34.20 | `MindWorX | I hear it features multiplayer |
| 22:34.21 | Reactorex | 0.o |
| 22:34.27 | `MindWorX | I'm getting bored with teh singleplayer campaign |
| 22:34.28 | Reactorex | O.o |
| 22:34.39 | Motive | Good to know. xD |
| 22:34.41 | `MindWorX | ;) |
| 22:34.42 | `MindWorX | :P |
| 22:34.49 | `MindWorX | So what ahve you been working on Motive? |
| 22:35.03 | Motive | Uh, MapCraft (not rly) and my roleplaying map. |
| 22:35.21 | `MindWorX | Specifically, what did you work on this "morn" |
| 22:35.27 | Motive | This "morn" I wasn't here. |
| 22:35.27 | Motive | LOL |
| 22:35.38 | Motive | But when I signed on I was working on getting my map to publish w/ a mod dependency |
| 22:35.54 | Motive | I got the mod and map to publish (a miracle in itself) but apparently maps with mod dependencies just don't work. |
| 22:35.57 | Motive | "Unable to open map" |
| 22:35.58 | Motive | QQ |
| 22:36.35 | `MindWorX | Maybe the mod needs to be uploaded aswell first? |
| 22:36.36 | `MindWorX | I dunno |
| 22:36.47 | Motive | They're both published and the map has a Battle.net dependency on it. |
| 22:36.55 | Motive | Don't see what more would need to be done. o_o |
| 22:37.12 | `MindWorX | Speaking of work, seems i have an alpha ready, for a tool that adds a new coding window to GE, with syntax highlighting and shit, that works for the current version of GE |
| 22:37.20 | Motive | Nice. :) |
| 22:37.56 | RodOfNOD | `MindWorX do u see any issues with obsfucating the code before its upload and published? |
| 22:38.18 | Fatal5101 | you can upload locked maps now so? |
| 22:38.18 | `MindWorX | Not at all |
| 22:38.19 | Fatal5101 | why |
| 22:38.27 | greg | does anyone know why my alerts are messed up? this alert plays when i upgrade my photon cannon: http://i.imgur.com/eahxO.jpg and this alert plays when i upgrade one of my abilities (transfusion): http://i.imgur.com/dqQTg.jpg |
| 22:38.29 | RodOfNOD | well several reasons fatal |
| 22:38.42 | RodOfNOD | one is i feel confident that the locked map will eventuall be cracked |
| 22:38.54 | Fatal5101 | ANYTHING can be cracked |
| 22:38.56 | Fatal5101 | given time |
| 22:39.05 | RodOfNOD | and its its obsfucated then u just made it real hard for people |
| 22:39.16 | Barter | but the way locking is now, cant you just open the map with a mpq editor? |
| 22:39.19 | RodOfNOD | cuz ive decoded maps that are obsfucated and its a pain |
| 22:39.38 | Fatal5101 | you cant even DL a locked map to open in the editor |
| 22:39.41 | RodOfNOD | thats my other concern it seems that locked isnt really locked atm |
| 22:39.48 | Fatal5101 | and downloaded maps from b.net are hidden away in cache files |
| 22:39.59 | RodOfNOD | greg - id say thats a bug |
| 22:39.59 | Barter | you just gotta find it in the cache |
| 22:40.02 | RodOfNOD | please report it |
| 22:40.09 | Fatal5101 | there are no names for anything |
| 22:40.26 | Barter | I know but its not impossible |
| 22:40.31 | RodOfNOD | well fatal there are several issues |
| 22:40.32 | Fatal5101 | nothing is with computers |
| 22:40.35 | Barter | just clear it and play the map you want or something |
| 22:40.42 | RodOfNOD | one is can u open a locked file if u can find it? |
| 22:40.47 | Fatal5101 | no |
| 22:40.55 | RodOfNOD | because u cant find it |
| 22:40.56 | Barter | not with the editor |
| 22:40.59 | RodOfNOD | or because it is encrypted |
| 22:41.04 | Barter | but you can with a mpq editor afaik |
| 22:41.04 | `MindWorX | Yea, obfuscation is the best method of protection, since it really can't be cracked, only... researched if that makes sense. All constants will be inlined, all functions will be nameless. |
| 22:41.10 | nicoli_s | i can open protected maps with MWE just fine |
| 22:41.18 | `MindWorX | It's pretty much like reading assembly after a binary has been compiled |
| 22:41.20 | `MindWorX | It's possible |
| 22:41.27 | `MindWorX | But rarely worth the time |
| 22:41.27 | RodOfNOD | but painful |
| 22:41.43 | RodOfNOD | any way to get a checksum on the code length? |
| 22:41.48 | `MindWorX | Tell me about it, it's not like the reversing i'm doing in GE is always fun :P |
| 22:42.06 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 22:42.29 | RodOfNOD | as in the galaxy is 20k chars long can i get the length and then say if my file isnt 20k dont run? |
| 22:42.47 | RodOfNOD | just throwing out past ideas for battling hackers |
| 22:43.10 | `MindWorX | Don't think that's possible no |
| 22:43.25 | RodOfNOD | @nicoli_s are u saying that everything is visible with mwe? |
| 22:43.42 | `MindWorX | In wc3, you could add handle checking stuff, using GetHandleId |
| 22:43.47 | RodOfNOD | why isnt blizzard truely encrypting the file |
| 22:43.50 | RodOfNOD | right |
| 22:43.51 | `MindWorX | It did scare away some, but wasn't perfect |
| 22:43.53 | RodOfNOD | thats what i was thinking |
| 22:44.09 | Motive | too busy working on facebook integration and real id |
| 22:44.10 | Motive | sorry. :P |
| 22:44.18 | RodOfNOD | MAYBE they are going to but to reduce hackers time they are not offering it till the release ,..... lets hope |
| 22:44.21 | nicoli_s | RodOfNOD:havent checked anything other than if mwe could open the map successfully |
| 22:44.22 | Motive | Sorry I'm just upset at Blizzard. xD |
| 22:44.31 | nicoli_s | need to check if the mapscript is obfuscated or what |
| 22:44.37 | RodOfNOD | well what im asking nic is all the files are they there readable? |
| 22:44.54 | nicoli_s | readable how? |
| 22:44.56 | RodOfNOD | im nmostly concerned about art |
| 22:45.09 | RodOfNOD | guy makes a model and he doesnt want it stolen |
| 22:45.11 | nicoli_s | i havent checked, but id reckon near 100% it is |
| 22:45.17 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 22:45.25 | RodOfNOD | k let me know when u get a chance |
| 22:45.39 | nicoli_s | if anyone wants to get me a protected mapm i can test |
| 22:47.37 | RodOfNOD | havent gotten to publishing yet or i would |
| 22:47.42 | slightlyrandom | Cant you just save one as "protected" ? |
| 22:47.49 | slightlyrandom | Or does it have to go through the Blizzard servers |
| 22:48.00 | RodOfNOD | i think it has to go through servers |
| 22:48.13 | wOlfLinG | EU servers up yet? |
| 22:48.20 | slightlyrandom | I'd help, but I dont like protected maps, and I am on the wrong side of the pond |
| 22:48.29 | Helral | yup |
| 22:48.34 | RodOfNOD | nic cant u just go onto the server and pick any custom map to play and then go open it? |
| 22:48.43 | Helral | although we still can't publish Wolfling |
| 22:48.47 | nicoli_s | yah but im at work atm, no time :P |
| 22:48.48 | Helral | we can play sc2 ;p |
| 22:49.03 | Dustin | Any Artists looking for a project? |
| 22:49.15 | RodOfNOD | slightlyrandom if all it was was letting people know what u did id agree but #1 thing i hate is having someone HACK ur map with a money hack and then people think u made a map with a hack |
| 22:49.19 | slightlyrandom | Wrong forum for it Dustin ^^ |
| 22:49.29 | Dustin | Not a forums :) |
| 22:49.56 | slightlyrandom | n., pl., fo·rums, also fo·ra (fôr'É, fÅr'É). |
| 22:50.01 | slightlyrandom | A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website. |
| 22:50.15 | Motive | If you're on the battle.net marketplace I imagine you could sue anyone who stole your map at least. :P |
| 22:50.31 | Dustin | This is a chat room |
| 22:50.38 | Dustin | Real Time > Message Board |
| 22:50.39 | slightlyrandom | Its a medium for open discussion |
| 22:51.12 | Dustin | You're taking Forum to a more general term |
| 22:51.24 | Motive | Forum doesn't necessarily mean a literal message board |
| 22:51.25 | slightlyrandom | I am taking it in it's literal sense, yes |
| 22:51.29 | Motive | Forum means any place you can discuss ideas with other people. |
| 22:51.35 | Dustin | Depends on the usage of the word |
| 22:51.39 | slightlyrandom | Obviously |
| 22:51.42 | slightlyrandom | But mine predates yours |
| 22:51.43 | slightlyrandom | So there! |
| 22:51.58 | Motive | He wins. |
| 22:52.04 | Dustin | It's also Legacy talk especially when we have Internet "Forums" |
| 22:52.18 | Motive | I disagree |
| 22:52.23 | slightlyrandom | RodOfNOD: Yeah, but then what can you do? Make sure stuff you upload in your name on your account is legit, and let people work it out themselves |
| 22:52.24 | Motive | It's just a different kind of forum |
| 22:52.31 | Motive | This is technically a forum, too |
| 22:52.45 | Dustin | Which i could not have known from, "wrong forum for it" |
| 22:53.01 | Dustin | No context from that implies either version of the word |
| 22:53.05 | slightlyrandom | Haha |
| 22:53.16 | slightlyrandom | Well, it depends on your view of my ability to tell a chat room and a webpage apart |
| 22:53.18 | Dustin | I'm to high for this shit :P |
| 22:53.22 | Motive | LOL |
| 22:54.08 | Dustin | I've decided to do a bunch of game documentation before I start my big project |
| 22:54.20 | Dustin | Gonna make shit so much easier |
| 22:54.23 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 22:54.35 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, I gotta comment my code at some point as well |
| 22:54.41 | Motive | Psh |
| 22:54.45 | Motive | I have to rewrite all of my code |
| 22:54.48 | slightlyrandom | Too bad you can't really comment data editor stuff |
| 22:54.55 | Dustin | Ya I wish you could |
| 22:54.58 | Dustin | And make folders and shit |
| 22:55.01 | slightlyrandom | That's where all the trickery happens |
| 22:55.06 | Dustin | Would help my organizational style alot |
| 22:55.29 | Dustin | Someone make a GE Plugi so I can make Data folders! |
| 22:55.51 | slightlyrandom | The MWE is gonna be that, and more! |
| 22:56.22 | slightlyrandom | Are others getting requests to upload their maps on various websites? |
| 22:56.36 | slightlyrandom | "Hey man, wanna come on over to www.somesite.com and upload your stuff? It'd be awesome!" |
| 22:56.54 | `MindWorX | No |
| 22:57.01 | Dustin | I did awhile back |
| 22:57.35 | slightlyrandom | I just told a guy I didn't care to, because I'd have to register a new account and jump the hoops, but since the map was in the public domain, he could go right ahead |
| 22:57.37 | WhiskeeGX | but I bet someone clicked that link |
| 22:57.48 | slightlyrandom | Now I got a message back saying he created an account for me, and uploaded the map in my name |
| 22:58.02 | Motive | Lol |
| 22:58.03 | slightlyrandom | Then gave me the login and password for the account |
| 22:58.11 | Dustin | Was it nibbits? |
| 22:58.20 | Dustin | Cause that's what happend to me with them lol |
| 22:58.23 | slightlyrandom | strategyinformer.com |
| 22:59.01 | slightlyrandom | Well, I don't want to support seven different sites |
| 22:59.03 | slightlyrandom | Whats with that? |
| 22:59.15 | nicoli_s | fuck nibbits |
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| 22:59.42 | RodOfNOD | slightlyrandom well i found it to be a huge problem in wc3 and i want to avoid it here..,, |
| 23:00.07 | Dustin | Tell us how you really feel nicoli_s :P |
| 23:00.12 | slightlyrandom | Isn't it kinda fixed here on account of maps being started, not by individuals, but by the Blizzard server ? |
| 23:00.24 | RodOfNOD | i view map protection like abortion im pro choice :> |
| 23:00.30 | slightlyrandom | I mean, its obviously still doable, but |
| 23:00.36 | Motive | meh |
| 23:00.41 | Motive | people make things out to be black and white |
| 23:01.00 | Motive | either you support abortions, or you don't. and that's just not the truth of the matter |
| 23:01.14 | slightlyrandom | I imagine there are gonna be fewer versions of each map this time around |
| 23:01.22 | RodOfNOD | the people that think that are on the pro life side Motive |
| 23:01.35 | RodOfNOD | the people on the pro choice side see it very different for the most part |
| 23:01.36 | Motive | nah it's both sides. :P |
| 23:01.44 | slightlyrandom | I support abortion 'till about the age of 1 |
| 23:01.45 | RodOfNOD | no pro life has no choice |
| 23:01.54 | RodOfNOD | lol how bout till 16 |
| 23:01.55 | slightlyrandom | Since kids that young arent really humans anyway |
| 23:01.55 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 23:02.02 | RodOfNOD | that would straighten out ur kids |
| 23:02.03 | slightlyrandom | Lumps of meat |
| 23:02.20 | RodOfNOD | u obviously dont have kids slightlyrandom or u would never think that |
| 23:02.24 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 23:02.29 | slightlyrandom | Having kids is a kind of disease |
| 23:02.33 | slightlyrandom | It fucks with peoples heads |
| 23:02.45 | slightlyrandom | I also think people with kids are unfit to make any kind of judgement in any thing involving kids |
| 23:02.59 | RodOfNOD | ok well i odnt have kids and ur still wrong :> |
| 23:03.09 | slightlyrandom | There are obviously some chemicals in their heads messing it all up |
| 23:03.37 | RodOfNOD | of course same could be said about drugs, if u smoke pot u dont get decide whether its legal or not... how would u like that? |
| 23:03.45 | `MindWorX | slightlyrandom, You granpa wouldn't happen to be named Hitler by any chance? :P |
| 23:03.50 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:03.57 | slightlyrandom | Don't be silly |
| 23:04.02 | `MindWorX | Stalin? |
| 23:04.02 | slightlyrandom | he was my great grandpa |
| 23:04.06 | RodOfNOD | more like stalin |
| 23:04.06 | `MindWorX | Oh right |
| 23:04.25 | slightlyrandom | Well, obviously that was just me messing around |
| 23:04.36 | slightlyrandom | But seriously, having kids obviously alter your head in some way |
| 23:04.57 | slightlyrandom | Your views and priorities are very different before and after |
| 23:05.02 | `MindWorX | Obviously your head should be altered if you think killing kids off is fair until the age of 1 |
| 23:05.05 | `MindWorX | :P |
| 23:05.14 | slightlyrandom | (01:04:25) slightlyrandom: Well, obviously that was just me messing around |
| 23:06.04 | `MindWorX | Funny, we're in the same timezone |
| 23:06.08 | `MindWorX | Where're you from? |
| 23:06.12 | slightlyrandom | Uganda |
| 23:06.25 | slightlyrandom | You ? |
| 23:06.29 | `MindWorX | Denmark |
| 23:06.41 | slightlyrandom | Sweet |
| 23:07.06 | `MindWorX | Yea, i rock |
| 23:07.09 | `MindWorX | We have racism and shit |
| 23:07.31 | `MindWorX | We make fun of religion and enjoys long walks on the beach while our flag is burning |
| 23:07.50 | `MindWorX | Extremists are GOOD! Comics are BAD! |
| 23:08.00 | slightlyrandom | I love comics |
| 23:08.00 | `MindWorX | sighs |
| 23:10.13 | depthsofchaos | you better start liking muslims, they will overpopulate europe in 50 year :o |
| 23:10.23 | `MindWorX | OH NOES |
| 23:10.27 | `MindWorX | NOT IF I GET THEM FIRST! |
| 23:10.30 | `MindWorX | TO THE HITLERMOBILE! |
| 23:10.33 | slightlyrandom | ^^ |
| 23:10.49 | `MindWorX | GO GADGET GENOCIDE ROCKET GO! |
| 23:10.53 | Zoxc | killing kids is fine until they reach 0! |
| 23:11.05 | depthsofchaos | you kill millions daily |
| 23:11.06 | Zoxc | or in `MindWorX case, 25 |
| 23:11.22 | `MindWorX | That gives me like 2 more years to live |
| 23:11.23 | `MindWorX | That's awesome |
| 23:11.37 | `MindWorX | More than i'd have expected |
| 23:11.38 | heysparky | less jabbering, more working, worx |
| 23:11.46 | `MindWorX | I don't like wor |
| 23:11.51 | `MindWorX | I already told you that! |
| 23:11.51 | heysparky | you only have a couple years |
| 23:11.56 | Zoxc | that doesn't mean someone will waste their time on killing you though |
| 23:12.02 | heysparky | work on your fun |
| 23:12.06 | RodOfNOD | how bout worx |
| 23:12.09 | `MindWorX | :P |
| 23:12.11 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.08 | heysparky | howabout this version then... |
| 23:13.25 | P_R_Deltoid | ~seen Sixen |
| 23:13.29 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (2d 22h 51m 43s) #wowuidev (2d 22h 51m 43s). Has said a total of 242 messages. Is idling for 1h 23m 48s, last said: 'Sure ther eis :p'. |
| 23:13.33 | heysparky | less mouth diahrrhea and more fun-making |
| 23:13.40 | P_R_Deltoid | SIxen, stop idling, faggot |
| 23:13.43 | P_R_Deltoid | Come answer my question |
| 23:13.44 | `MindWorX | I MAKE FUN |
| 23:13.53 | `MindWorX | I don't think you should call Sexen a faggot |
| 23:14.01 | P_R_Deltoid | I do! |
| 23:14.06 | P_R_Deltoid | this is where we differ |
| 23:14.34 | ProzaicMuze | See, if I call Sixen a faggot. . . well. . . he'd prolly call me a faggot back |
| 23:14.37 | ProzaicMuze | And then we'd laugh |
| 23:14.43 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, where the fuck is that tutorial |
| 23:14.54 | ProzaicMuze | But if YOU call him a faggot. . . well. . . *watches Deltoid get beaten into the ground with teh banhammer* |
| 23:14.56 | `MindWorX | You seem stressed P_R_Deltoid |
| 23:15.02 | ProzaicMuze | It's behind you, Deltoid |
| 23:15.04 | P_R_Deltoid | `MindWorX, weird |
| 23:15.10 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, liar. |
| 23:15.13 | P_R_Deltoid | I just checked |
| 23:15.14 | ProzaicMuze | No really, look! |
| 23:15.16 | RodOfNOD | under weapons there are 2 data fields one called options, other called legacy options any idea why? |
| 23:15.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster Lilianna (~Lilianna@adsl-75-15-140-76.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:15.18 | P_R_Deltoid | I did! |
| 23:15.36 | ProzaicMuze | Now that can't be true. . . because if you did youwould have found it! |
| 23:15.45 | Barter | where is rrowland and his mud |
| 23:15.46 | RodOfNOD | why would anyone want to call someone a log or a cigarette i just dont get it....... |
| 23:15.53 | P_R_Deltoid | Or you're a liar, and need to work harder |
| 23:15.54 | P_R_Deltoid | >:( |
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| 23:16.13 | ProzaicMuze | @Rod - one is weapon options and one is weapon type (Strafe/Legacy) |
| 23:16.14 | RodOfNOD | hi Lilianna i added in all the different deaths thanks for teh suggestions |
| 23:16.22 | Lilianna | Woo |
| 23:16.29 | `MindWorX | lol RodOfNOD |
| 23:16.30 | RodOfNOD | i dont get what u mean by strafe or legacy |
| 23:16.33 | ProzaicMuze | Deltoid. . . I can't be a liar |
| 23:16.35 | ProzaicMuze | it's impossible |
| 23:16.40 | Lilianna | I was just cleaning my room and rearranging my desk a lil |
| 23:16.46 | ProzaicMuze | When you create a new weapon there are only two types |
| 23:16.49 | Lilianna | trying to make the mess of wires behind my computer, pretty |
| 23:16.52 | RodOfNOD | `MindWorX went right over their heads didnt it bud? |
| 23:16.53 | ProzaicMuze | Strafe (strafing run) or Legacy (normal/default) |
| 23:17.00 | P_R_Deltoid | ProzaicMuze, you lied about when the poll ends. |
| 23:17.05 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 23:17.12 | ProzaicMuze | I should extend it another day, just to bother you |
| 23:17.34 | `MindWorX | Indeed Rod :P |
| 23:17.36 | RodOfNOD | just dont get the word legacy there but ty |
| 23:17.43 | Lilianna | I don't think there is any way to organize the wires of 2 computers and 2 game systems in a little area. :_ |
| 23:17.46 | Lilianna | :( |
| 23:17.50 | slightlyrandom | Duct Tape |
| 23:17.56 | Lilianna | I had tie wraps |
| 23:17.57 | `MindWorX | Wirerails |
| 23:18.01 | `MindWorX | Very awesom very cheap |
| 23:18.11 | Lilianna | all the wires are too long |
| 23:18.12 | `MindWorX | Wirerails may or may not be an invented word |
| 23:18.14 | `MindWorX | Let me google |
| 23:18.14 | Lilianna | for the area they are in |
| 23:18.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster scvrory (~rory@12.156.9.2) |
| 23:18.31 | Lilianna | they are all coiled up and piled on top of each other |
| 23:18.38 | slightlyrandom | Tie em up |
| 23:18.41 | Lilianna | they are |
| 23:18.42 | Lilianna | :P |
| 23:18.48 | Lilianna | its still a messy pile |
| 23:19.10 | `MindWorX | http://www.scan-air.eu/media/files/Produkter/Kabelbakker/kanal.jpg |
| 23:19.16 | `MindWorX | That's the shit i'm talking about |
| 23:19.20 | `MindWorX | No clue what the english word is |
| 23:19.30 | `MindWorX | cable... thingy |
| 23:19.36 | Lilianna | those wont help me, because my wires go a foot |
| 23:19.39 | RodOfNOD | interesting... catalog names are case sensitive :> |
| 23:19.40 | Lilianna | then need to be rolled up |
| 23:20.02 | heysparky | zip ties |
| 23:20.10 | heysparky | all about zip ties |
| 23:20.14 | Lilianna | they are zip tied in coils |
| 23:20.18 | Lilianna | I said that earlier |
| 23:20.29 | ProzaicMuze | Lilianna. . . there most certainly is |
| 23:20.29 | heysparky | ah |
| 23:20.32 | heysparky | well good |
| 23:20.39 | ProzaicMuze | I have 4 computers, 2 TVs and a mini-fridge ;) |
| 23:20.44 | Lilianna | its just, I have 3-5 cords coming out of 4 systems |
| 23:21.00 | Lilianna | I could plug in another computer if I wanted too. :x |
| 23:21.03 | Lilianna | my laptop |
| 23:21.04 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 23:21.08 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 23:21.14 | ProzaicMuze | Ikea is your friend |
| 23:21.15 | heysparky | you should see behind my entertainment system... it's frightening |
| 23:21.25 | heysparky | I gave up |
| 23:21.34 | heysparky | my computer is much more harmonious |
| 23:21.34 | ProzaicMuze | Typical female talk. . . |
| 23:21.35 | `MindWorX | Pft, cables :P |
| 23:21.38 | ProzaicMuze | quitters. . . . |
| 23:21.39 | Lilianna | heysparky, Yah I have two 21" moniters to hide the cables |
| 23:21.40 | `MindWorX | I'm wireless whereever possible |
| 23:21.44 | ProzaicMuze | ;P |
| 23:21.52 | Lilianna | but still, I wanted to be a bit better |
| 23:21.53 | Lilianna | :| |
| 23:22.05 | heysparky | wireless still has wires, over where the router and all that crap is |
| 23:22.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster ekcolnvkol (ekcolnovko@pool-173-68-14-99.nycmny.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:22.08 | ekcolnvkol | if |
| 23:22.12 | ekcolnvkol | people lag |
| 23:22.13 | `MindWorX | My HT is pretty much wireless, except for power and a hdmi cable |
| 23:22.17 | ekcolnvkol | it's the server's fault right :U |
| 23:22.31 | Lilianna | Find me a Wireless computer moniter |
| 23:22.53 | Lilianna | needs to have wireless power also |
| 23:22.56 | Lilianna | not battery run |
| 23:23.08 | heysparky | ignores Prozaic's bait. |
| 23:23.15 | ProzaicMuze | :( |
| 23:23.23 | ProzaicMuze | doesn't hook him a feminist :( |
| 23:23.37 | heysparky | wrong bait |
| 23:23.37 | `MindWorX | Wireless power is possible, just look at the teslacoils. They generate a magnetic field that can supply a big area with power |
| 23:23.38 | heysparky | goofus |
| 23:23.45 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:23.47 | Lilianna | I have a PS3, Wii and Mac mini plugged into one moniter. c.c |
| 23:23.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster Curt` (~DorkeyDea@adsl-75-10-142-203.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:23.52 | Lilianna | and the other one has my PC hooked up to it |
| 23:23.53 | Motive | I need to get a KVM switch for this monitor/keyboard setup. |
| 23:23.58 | Motive | And yay Mac Mini! <3 |
| 23:24.06 | ProzaicMuze | Problem with wireless is it's tempermental |
| 23:24.08 | Lilianna | Its so cute! |
| 23:24.12 | ProzaicMuze | And NOT advised for high end computers. |
| 23:24.21 | ProzaicMuze | PS3!? |
| 23:24.24 | ProzaicMuze | Blasphemy! |
| 23:24.35 | Lilianna | Xbox doesnt have Littel Big Planet |
| 23:24.40 | Lilianna | Little* |
| 23:24.42 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:24.47 | ProzaicMuze | So you got PS3 for that single game? |
| 23:24.47 | Lilianna | so :P |
| 23:24.52 | Motive | I buy Apple solely now because they look so sexy. |
| 23:24.54 | Motive | It's kind of bad. |
| 23:24.55 | Motive | xD |
| 23:24.57 | Lilianna | No, not that single game. that would be silly |
| 23:25.17 | Lilianna | theres also Little Big Planet 2 coming out this year |
| 23:25.18 | ProzaicMuze | Xbox is far superior to your PS3 of animedom! |
| 23:25.20 | Lilianna | thats 2 games! |
| 23:25.21 | `MindWorX | I buy apple now solely... no wait, i don't. |
| 23:25.22 | ProzaicMuze | dons fanboy hat |
| 23:25.25 | ProzaicMuze | rofl |
| 23:25.54 | `MindWorX | Well, my wii has Mario Kart, so go fuck yourself with you PS3 and XBox stuff with pretty graphics |
| 23:26.11 | Lilianna | Ive been playing alot of Rune Factory Frontier on my Wii |
| 23:26.12 | Lilianna | :x |
| 23:26.15 | `MindWorX | dons fanboy hat +1 |
| 23:26.20 | Motive | My Mac has a MAGSAFE adapter. /fuckyeah |
| 23:26.22 | goomba_ | new zelda hat for wii soon :P |
| 23:26.25 | Motive | Honestly that thing has saved me so many times. |
| 23:26.25 | Motive | xD |
| 23:26.28 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 23:26.32 | Motive | I take such bad care of it. |
| 23:26.36 | ProzaicMuze | I has a WII so nanner nanner? |
| 23:26.41 | heysparky | PS3 is all about R&C |
| 23:26.45 | heysparky | and Flower |
| 23:27.09 | ProzaicMuze | And I'm not really an Xbox fanboy, I just hate the PS3 |
| 23:27.12 | heysparky | Wii is all about jumping around like a dork wiht your parents and having fun. |
| 23:27.15 | ProzaicMuze | There is nothing appealing about it to me |
| 23:27.25 | ProzaicMuze | Especially given some of my favorite games aren't available on it :( |
| 23:27.25 | heysparky | Xbox is about Live Live Live |
| 23:27.36 | ProzaicMuze | PS3 is about internet play too? |
| 23:27.37 | heysparky | and the arcade |
| 23:27.38 | ProzaicMuze | So. . . um |
| 23:27.47 | heysparky | yeah, but xbox was first to market |
| 23:27.53 | ProzaicMuze | meh |
| 23:27.59 | ProzaicMuze | I don't use the market unless it's free |
| 23:28.05 | heysparky | ? |
| 23:28.15 | heysparky | first to market in the sense that they nailed it first |
| 23:28.16 | ProzaicMuze | As in I don't download anything from the market unless it's a free add-on fro a game. |
| 23:28.24 | `MindWorX | I don't use prostitutes unless they're free |
| 23:28.28 | ProzaicMuze | . . . |
| 23:28.38 | ProzaicMuze | That makes them sluts. . . not prostitues |
| 23:28.41 | ProzaicMuze | + a t |
| 23:28.44 | `MindWorX | Exactly :D |
| 23:28.46 | `MindWorX | AND I LIKE IT |
| 23:28.48 | `MindWorX | WOOOO |
| 23:28.48 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 23:28.49 | ProzaicMuze | eww |
| 23:28.51 | `MindWorX | runs around naked |
| 23:29.11 | ProzaicMuze | ?! |
| 23:29.24 | heysparky | we need adjust worx's cocktail... a little more haldol |
| 23:29.39 | slightlyrandom | You wouldn't think it possible, but this conversation has gone remarkably down hill since we discussed killing babies |
| 23:30.01 | `MindWorX | What's a hill? |
| 23:30.14 | slightlyrandom | It's where billies live |
| 23:30.25 | `MindWorX | hill billies? |
| 23:30.31 | ProzaicMuze | Wait. . . . you discussed killing babies!? |
| 23:30.33 | ProzaicMuze | WITHOUT ME!? |
| 23:30.35 | ProzaicMuze | >:( |
| 23:31.06 | `MindWorX | It's just slightlyrandom that wants to kill all babies under the age of 10 |
| 23:31.08 | `MindWorX | With acid |
| 23:31.10 | `MindWorX | That's what he said |
| 23:31.12 | heysparky | yes, for some 'late term' means 4th or 5th grade |
| 23:31.16 | slightlyrandom | Nononono |
| 23:31.17 | slightlyrandom | 16 |
| 23:31.32 | ProzaicMuze | hey now |
| 23:31.35 | ProzaicMuze | I'm 16 :( |
| 23:31.36 | `MindWorX | [01:04] <slightlyrandom> We should kill all babies under the age of 10... with acid |
| 23:31.39 | ProzaicMuze | You can't go killin' me |
| 23:31.55 | heysparky | when's your birthday? |
| 23:32.03 | heysparky | better watch your six |
| 23:32.05 | ProzaicMuze | 95 |
| 23:32.07 | Lilianna | heysparky, R&C and Flower? |
| 23:32.13 | heysparky | Ratchet and Clank |
| 23:32.15 | Lilianna | ah |
| 23:32.17 | heysparky | and the game 'Flower' |
| 23:32.18 | ProzaicMuze | do'h |
| 23:32.19 | Lilianna | havent played that one |
| 23:32.24 | heysparky | downloadable, $10 |
| 23:32.24 | ProzaicMuze | doh |
| 23:32.26 | heysparky | totally worth it |
| 23:32.28 | ProzaicMuze | then I'd be 15 |
| 23:32.29 | ProzaicMuze | rofl |
| 23:32.29 | Lilianna | hmm, is Flower on PS Network? |
| 23:32.32 | ProzaicMuze | I phail at math :( |
| 23:32.36 | `MindWorX | ... |
| 23:32.37 | `MindWorX | Flower |
| 23:32.40 | `MindWorX | That's a name for a game? |
| 23:32.42 | heysparky | I believe so, yes |
| 23:32.47 | Lilianna | I'll have to look at that |
| 23:32.48 | heysparky | it is |
| 23:32.53 | Lilianna | Flow was a neat game |
| 23:33.06 | heysparky | it's a pretty awesome game |
| 23:33.08 | `MindWorX | I wanna make a game... I'll call it... Cinderblock |
| 23:33.12 | heysparky | gameplay is basically pacman |
| 23:33.15 | heysparky | but gordeous |
| 23:33.18 | `MindWorX | It's about being a Cinderblock |
| 23:33.19 | heysparky | gorgeous |
| 23:33.21 | Lilianna | Ooh |
| 23:33.22 | heysparky | with procedural music |
| 23:33.26 | Lilianna | I love pretty games |
| 23:33.27 | `MindWorX | You need to support weight of fat americans |
| 23:33.27 | Dustin | Mindy |
| 23:33.31 | Dustin | You douche! |
| 23:33.35 | ProzaicMuze | I'm american |
| 23:33.37 | Lilianna | as well as cute oens |
| 23:33.39 | ProzaicMuze | and I am not fat |
| 23:33.54 | `MindWorX | So it's going to let you fall through the floor |
| 23:34.02 | `MindWorX | Cause it only supports fat americans |
| 23:34.06 | `MindWorX | Not thin americans |
| 23:34.11 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:34.12 | `MindWorX | 'nor average |
| 23:34.16 | `MindWorX | Only the fat ones |
| 23:34.19 | Dustin | lol |
| 23:34.21 | `MindWorX | Like 250lb+ |
| 23:34.22 | Lilianna | hmm forgot to plug my PS3 in. :x |
| 23:34.32 | ProzaicMuze | This game sounds discriminatory :S |
| 23:34.36 | `MindWorX | It's not |
| 23:34.37 | heysparky | more cable fun, wheee |
| 23:34.39 | `MindWorX | It's CINDERBLOCK |
| 23:34.55 | `MindWorX | We don't know discriminawhatsitsname |
| 23:35.03 | heysparky | It's a game about service and sacrifice |
| 23:36.10 | Lilianna | I plugged it intot he moniter, and intot he network |
| 23:36.14 | Lilianna | but I didnt plug in the power |
| 23:36.14 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 23:36.24 | `MindWorX | Plug the power in the network |
| 23:36.37 | `MindWorX | http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/chem/faculty/pavel/Internet%20killer.jpg |
| 23:36.38 | `MindWorX | :D |
| 23:36.53 | Lilianna | I found my eraser I lost in the middle of last semester for art class |
| 23:37.32 | Lilianna | downloads flower |
| 23:38.19 | RodOfNOD | downloads flour |
| 23:38.20 | slightlyrandom | I need ideas for wacky games |
| 23:38.26 | Lilianna | Cinderblock |
| 23:38.29 | Lilianna | now make a game |
| 23:38.40 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 23:38.44 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:38.47 | art[] | olo |
| 23:38.48 | RodOfNOD | Wacky Cinderblock! |
| 23:38.49 | ProzaicMuze | you are determined to have him make a game |
| 23:38.50 | slightlyrandom | Like, a DotA clone with pretty much only heroes like the goblin suicide guy |
| 23:38.56 | ProzaicMuze | What if I said I'm not making a game? |
| 23:38.57 | RodOfNOD | is it cinder or is it a block... noone knows |
| 23:39.08 | Lilianna | Ceaderblock |
| 23:39.18 | Lilianna | Its unoffical name of Cinderblock 2 |
| 23:39.23 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 23:39.30 | ProzaicMuze | I'm tempted to make a dota parody |
| 23:39.44 | Lilianna | Make a dota parody where you play as the minions |
| 23:39.50 | Lilianna | and get slaughtered by PC computers |
| 23:39.58 | Lilianna | Computer heroes* |
| 23:40.03 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:40.07 | ProzaicMuze | that or you start off in the laning phase |
| 23:40.10 | ProzaicMuze | and you pick a lane |
| 23:40.12 | ProzaicMuze | "BOOM" wrong lane |
| 23:40.18 | ProzaicMuze | YOu lose (ejected from the game) |
| 23:40.25 | ProzaicMuze | People would be afraid >:D |
| 23:40.29 | Lilianna | Boots of speed slow you down to a crawl |
| 23:41.00 | ProzaicMuze | It'd be like Munckin DotA! |
| 23:41.01 | slightlyrandom | haha |
| 23:41.08 | ProzaicMuze | Munchkin* |
| 23:41.08 | slightlyrandom | That's a fucking great idea |
| 23:41.20 | Lilianna | Cinderblock: The Game - You have just been given new cement shoes, You just run to the hammer and break them off before they dry completely, stop your foes by throwing more concrete at them, or something |
| 23:41.24 | ekcolnvkol | =o |
| 23:41.36 | ProzaicMuze | Ekco |
| 23:41.39 | ekcolnovkol | ? |
| 23:41.42 | ProzaicMuze | I'm going to make a game to compete with your game |
| 23:41.44 | slightlyrandom | Why do your bothr ekcolnovkol? None can tell teh difference |
| 23:41.46 | ekcolnovkol | weeps |
| 23:41.46 | ProzaicMuze | Munchkin DotA! |
| 23:41.55 | Lilianna | he added an o |
| 23:41.57 | ekcolnovkol | because it's importants D: |
| 23:42.01 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 23:42.04 | Lilianna | League of Legends has munchkins |
| 23:42.08 | ekcolnovkol | didn't your teachers teach you about vowels |
| 23:42.10 | ProzaicMuze | ekco is all I see |
| 23:42.11 | Lilianna | they call them Yordles |
| 23:42.16 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 23:42.18 | ekcolnovkol | weeps |
| 23:42.18 | ProzaicMuze | but they aren't parodies |
| 23:42.26 | Lilianna | this is true |
| 23:42.27 | `MindWorX | The teachers calls vowels for yordles? |
| 23:42.27 | ProzaicMuze | Munchkin is synonymous with parody! :D |
| 23:42.31 | ekcolnovkol | if somebody makes me a rick astley model |
| 23:42.37 | ekcolnovkol | i will incorporate it into my map |
| 23:42.39 | ekcolnovkol | 100% |
| 23:42.39 | slightlyrandom | This world really needs a parody DotA game |
| 23:42.52 | `MindWorX | This world really needs babies to be killed |
| 23:42.55 | `MindWorX | Up to the age of 10 |
| 23:42.57 | `MindWorX | With acid |
| 23:43.00 | Lilianna | Rick Astley's ultimate, the Rick Roll: Entrances target area in a state of awe, until their heads explode |
| 23:43.16 | ekcolnovkol | he has 3 non ultimate abilities |
| 23:43.20 | ekcolnovkol | give you up |
| 23:43.21 | ekcolnovkol | let you down |
| 23:43.24 | ekcolnovkol | turn around |
| 23:43.37 | art[] | what, no desert you??? |
| 23:43.40 | `MindWorX | :( |
| 23:43.40 | ekcolnovkol | that's his ult |
| 23:43.42 | ekcolnovkol | o .o |
| 23:43.44 | `MindWorX | I want desert you |
| 23:43.48 | slightlyrandom | He would NEVER desert you |
| 23:43.53 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 23:44.02 | ekcolnovkol | i'll name him Anti.Rick or something |
| 23:44.08 | slightlyrandom | heh |
| 23:44.21 | ekcolnovkol | give you up: damage dealer |
| 23:44.26 | Lilianna | You could make his Passive be Never |
| 23:44.29 | ekcolnovkol | let you down: slows enemies in a lane |
| 23:44.37 | slightlyrandom | ProzaicMuze: You gonna make good on that promise and go for the Munchkin DotA ? |
| 23:44.38 | ekcolnovkol | turn around: back step for escape |
| 23:44.43 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:44.46 | ProzaicMuze | I'll have to remember it, but sure |
| 23:44.55 | ekcolnovkol | and desert you: isolates target unit by pushing all other units X distance away from the target |
| 23:44.56 | slightlyrandom | I'll give you any assistance you want |
| 23:45.15 | ProzaicMuze | But I figure one of the things I'm going to do after release is make a mapping team |
| 23:45.20 | ProzaicMuze | We're gonna make oddball maps |
| 23:45.25 | ekcolnovkol | who needs a team when you're IN THE ZONE |
| 23:45.26 | ProzaicMuze | And that'll prolly be the first one :D |
| 23:45.35 | Barter | oddball: |
| 23:45.36 | Barter | : |
| 23:45.38 | ekcolnovkol | : |
| 23:45.39 | Barter | ?* |
| 23:45.49 | Lilianna | I would love to help be a part of a mapping team |
| 23:45.50 | ProzaicMuze | comedy, silly, strange |
| 23:45.56 | Lilianna | because I never could finish one of my own maps |
| 23:45.58 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:46.07 | Lilianna | like, I like making the terrain, then I dont wanna trigger it |
| 23:46.15 | Lilianna | or I make one cool spell and have no idea what to put it on |
| 23:46.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster RedWraith (~daviddavi@ip98-164-199-113.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 23:46.46 | ProzaicMuze | well |
| 23:46.49 | ProzaicMuze | ooooh |
| 23:46.50 | ProzaicMuze | Red |
| 23:46.51 | RedWraith | Anyone figure out what we need to do to fix the leaderboard issue? |
| 23:46.51 | ProzaicMuze | perfect |
| 23:46.55 | ProzaicMuze | you're our trigguh man! |
| 23:47.06 | ProzaicMuze | You're gonna write a trigger tutorial for meh poll :D |
| 23:47.16 | Lilianna | hehe |
| 23:47.21 | ProzaicMuze | and what do yeh think of the name "Mythic Contortions" for the team |
| 23:47.49 | ProzaicMuze | since I might as well make the team now so I don't lose meh awesome name of goodness |
| 23:48.07 | Lilianna | hehe |
| 23:48.21 | Lilianna | What sort of logo would you have for Mythic Contortions? |
| 23:48.26 | Sixen | what? |
| 23:48.27 | slightlyrandom | A questionmark |
| 23:48.29 | Lilianna | some old Wizard folded into a pretzel? |
| 23:48.30 | ProzaicMuze | Dunno, btu I'd make an awesome one |
| 23:48.32 | Sixen | P_R_Deltoid ? |
| 23:48.34 | ProzaicMuze | I am a photoshop guru afterall |
| 23:48.53 | Lilianna | Gymnist Wizard |
| 23:48.59 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:49.16 | ProzaicMuze | Or what about |
| 23:49.20 | ProzaicMuze | "Mythic Proportions" |
| 23:49.39 | ProzaicMuze | and the logo is a REALLY small figure next to something normal sized |
| 23:49.41 | ProzaicMuze | like a chest or something |
| 23:49.53 | Lilianna | Hmm |
| 23:50.02 | ProzaicMuze | So that they expect "big" but we have a small mascot |
| 23:50.09 | ProzaicMuze | random, pitch in some ideas here! |
| 23:51.45 | slightlyrandom | :S |
| 23:51.48 | slightlyrandom | I already did |
| 23:51.51 | slightlyrandom | A questionmark |
| 23:51.54 | RedWraith | eh? |
| 23:51.55 | RedWraith | Team Red! |
| 23:52.39 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:52.39 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/rocket-arena-deluxe/. Rocket Arena. Acemore (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 23:52.46 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 23:52.55 | ProzaicMuze | you're not part of the team unless you agree to write a trigger tutorial for my poll |
| 23:53.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster AxlYin (~axlyin@m3a5536d0.tmodns.net) |
| 23:53.12 | AxlYin | zomg |
| 23:53.17 | RodOfNOD | how bout carebare dota instead of weapons they have love... :> |
| 23:53.21 | RodOfNOD | bair |
| 23:53.24 | RodOfNOD | bear |
| 23:53.27 | Lilianna | the only thing I thought of for a team name was "Questionable Bastards" |
| 23:53.44 | AxlYin | I didn't know yo umade SotIS ekcolnovkol |
| 23:53.44 | `MindWorX | How about a spelling teaching DotA RodOfNOD? |
| 23:53.45 | `MindWorX | :P |
| 23:53.54 | slightlyrandom | How advanced a tutorial are you looking for ProzaicMuze ? |
| 23:54.00 | RodOfNOD | lol at least i corrected it eventually |
| 23:54.06 | `MindWorX | xD |
| 23:54.23 | ProzaicMuze | lmao. . . Questionable Bastards? That sounds like a statement ;) |
| 23:54.28 | RodOfNOD | i bet noone has made a typing tutor game using sc2 |
| 23:54.33 | slightlyrandom | hah |
| 23:54.50 | RodOfNOD | be fun trying to translate the zerg stuff into real words |
| 23:54.53 | Lilianna | well who says your name cant be a statement too? |
| 23:54.54 | RodOfNOD | zdsfsdfsdfsduu sdufd sfusd fsf |
| 23:54.55 | ProzaicMuze | @random - it's more that I want to add Triggers to the suggestions. So that if someone asks for a trigger tutorial someone with trigger skills can make one. So I wouldn't know ahead of time how difficult the tutorial would be to make. |
| 23:55.06 | Lilianna | Like, we don't know what the hell weve made, but we had fun with it anyways |
| 23:55.11 | slightlyrandom | Ahhh |
| 23:55.12 | slightlyrandom | Like that |
| 23:55.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ashamed (43adf1dc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.173.241.220) |
| 23:55.17 | slightlyrandom | Well, add it, I am sure we can cook something up |
| 23:55.19 | Ashamed | whats up |
| 23:55.25 | RedWraith | ProzaicMuze, trigger tutorial for what exactly? |
| 23:55.28 | Ashamed | what we cooken? |
| 23:55.40 | Lilianna | Cheesecake |
| 23:55.43 | ProzaicMuze | @Red - have you see my tutorial poll? |
| 23:55.51 | Ashamed | cheesecake is my favorite |
| 23:55.53 | RedWraith | No. |
| 23:55.59 | Ashamed | like no joke... best food on earth |
| 23:56.10 | Lilianna | My mom once made me a cheesecake |
| 23:56.14 | Lilianna | but it didnt harden |
| 23:56.18 | Ashamed | Who would think Cheese and cake.... But damn it is good |
| 23:56.19 | Lilianna | so it was like Cheesecake pudding |
| 23:56.21 | Lilianna | it was awesome |
| 23:56.25 | Ashamed | Damn |
| 23:56.43 | Ashamed | she didn't mean to do that? |
| 23:56.47 | Lilianna | Nope |
| 23:56.50 | Lilianna | undercooked it I think |
| 23:56.57 | Ashamed | oh |
| 23:57.07 | Ashamed | i fucken love cheesecake |
| 23:57.27 | ProzaicMuze | @Red - http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4448-prozaics-data-editor-tutorials-week-2/#p7 |
| 23:57.31 | ProzaicMuze | I have that every week. |
| 23:57.31 | Lilianna | I had a deep fried cheesecake the other day |
| 23:57.38 | ProzaicMuze | At the end of the week, the top requests win. |
| 23:57.41 | `MindWorX | I have some Ben & Jerrys Strawberry Cheesecake icecream in the freezer Ashamed? |
| 23:57.45 | ProzaicMuze | What I want is to start allowing trigger tutorial request |
| 23:57.52 | RedWraith | Explain to me how any of those are related to triggers. |
| 23:57.56 | ProzaicMuze | So if someone wants to know how to make a leaderboard in a tutorial, it'd be put on the poll |
| 23:58.04 | ProzaicMuze | If that choice wins, THEN the tutorial is made for it |
| 23:58.12 | slightlyrandom | They can just come on here and ask, eh? |
| 23:58.12 | `MindWorX | How what what now Reactorex? |
| 23:58.14 | `MindWorX | RedWraith* |
| 23:58.17 | RedWraith | Triggers are so simple, man. It's what you can do with them that's complex. |
| 23:58.20 | ProzaicMuze | I essentially want to know if you'd be willing to make a trigger tutorial for me if and when a trigger tutorial wins the poll. |
| 23:58.34 | slightlyrandom | Throw it on the poll dude, we'll cook a tut up somehow |
| 23:58.47 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 23:58.54 | ProzaicMuze | Well, then I'm gonna open the poll up to trigger requests |
| 23:59.00 | Ashamed | prozaic why don't you just make them all? |
| 23:59.04 | RedWraith | look |
| 23:59.08 | RedWraith | I'd make video tutorials |
| 23:59.09 | ProzaicMuze | Because I know squat about triggers atm lol |
| 23:59.13 | RedWraith | and put them on youtube |
| 23:59.17 | Ashamed | really |
| 23:59.18 | RedWraith | if I had a reliable upload |
| 23:59.25 | Ashamed | >< I have made some pretty cool trigz |
| 23:59.25 | `MindWorX | RedWraith, That's like saying nuclear physics is easy, it's what you do with that's complex :P |
| 23:59.25 | Lilianna | Prozaic is having too much fun in data right now |
| 23:59.36 | slightlyrandom | He's crazy like that |
| 23:59.39 | RedWraith | MindWorX, that's true, actually. |
| 23:59.44 | ProzaicMuze | That's because data editor is where teh kool kids hang out :D |
| 23:59.48 | RedWraith | You realize I'm a physics major, right? ;D |
