IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20100704

`00:00.14`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`...almost`
`00:00.21`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`he only gl ows if he is at the top of the screen, how odd`
`00:00.32`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`or when the camera is close to the ground`
`00:02.42`	`onetwo`	`i think im gonna make a cinematic for my rpg`
`00:02.45`	`onetwo`	`soon`
`00:02.46`	`onetwo`	`:D`
`00:02.57`	`onetwo`	`its going to be epic until the title "onetwo rpg" comes on the screen`
`00:02.58`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`00:03.28`	`Triceron`	`ingame`
`00:03.30`	`Triceron`	`or like a video`
`00:03.33`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`glow is pretty cool too`
`00:03.43`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`looks like usable items in bioshock, that glossy look`
`00:03.45`	`onetwo`	`ingame footage and maybe some cgi`
`00:03.50`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and glow doesn't break`
`00:03.54`	`onetwo`	`into a video`
`00:04.01`	`wOlfLinG`	`Would Unit Selection - Select (Random Living unit from All heros) for player (Triggering player) only return the triggering players units?`
`00:04.04`	`onetwo`	`oh wow`
`00:04.06`	`onetwo`	`deltoid thats interesting`
`00:04.08`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`a video for youtube?`
`00:04.09`	`onetwo`	`i need that for my items`
`00:04.11`	`onetwo`	`yeah`
`00:04.15`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Yeah, it looks pretty cool`
`00:04.19`	`onetwo`	`awesome find`
`00:04.27`	`onetwo`	`what is the exact action you used`
`00:04.32`	`onetwo`	`for the glossy look`
`00:04.35`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Start Glow`
`00:04.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`no wait`
`00:04.38`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Glow Start`
`00:04.44`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`00:04.49`	`onetwo`	`perfect cool`
`00:04.52`	`Alpha_vst`	`i use glow 0.o`
`00:04.59`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Do you know how to use Halo?`
`00:05.01`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I need help with halo`
`00:05.02`	`onetwo`	`not sure wofling`
`00:05.03`	`onetwo`	`probably?`
`00:05.10`	`onetwo`	`i dont`
`00:05.13`	`onetwo`	`brb`
`00:05.16`	`onetwo`	`err afk`
`00:05.29`	`wOlfLinG`	`Also, how do i make a camera follow a unit? Or keep centered at least`
`00:06.18`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Make Camera Look At And Follow Actor?`
`00:06.27`	`onetwo`	`whos good with sounds`
`00:06.32`	`onetwo`	`im gonna need some defining sounds like in this trailer`
`00:06.33`	`onetwo`	`http://trailers.apple.com/movies/fox/predators/predators-tlr1_480p.mov`
`00:06.39`	`onetwo`	`you can tell a high budget movie from sound work`
`00:07.13`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`00:07.35`	`onetwo`	`Camera - follow unit group with camera`
`00:07.36`	`onetwo`	`?`
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`00:09.26`	`wOlfLinG`	`Oh, wow. The camera stays in the same place but looks at the unit :D`
`00:14.59`	`Triceron`	`damnit I wish this worked >_<`
`00:15.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`hmm do we have a place on the wiki for fun filled info?`
`00:15.50`	`wOlfLinG`	`And i wish i could get a proper camera system :(`
`00:16.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`for example i think i have a simple formula for wc3 speed conversion`
`00:16.03`	`wOlfLinG`	`I want it to be directly above the unit, and staying there`
`00:16.04`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`wow`
`00:16.08`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`the data editor is pretty cool!`
`00:16.13`	`wOlfLinG`	`yup`
`00:16.15`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes it is`
`00:16.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`onetwo where would u suggest i post that info`
`00:17.49`	`onetwo`	`RodOfNOD`
`00:17.53`	`onetwo`	`im not sure if youre presenting a tutorial or not`
`00:17.59`	`onetwo`	`but if you can put it in the form of one`
`00:18.03`	`onetwo`	`you can post it in tutorials section`
`00:18.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`so I gots to bounce for the evening. LAN party and all that`
`00:18.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`But if you needs something from me, send me some PMs`
`00:18.34`	`onetwo`	`and update the tutorials wiki http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/`
`00:18.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`well its gonna be a #`
`00:18.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`basically you take the speed you want say 370`
`00:18.59`	`Tehwildcard`	`12`
`00:19.00`	`onetwo`	`talk to Sixen or vjeux`
`00:19.02`	`Tehwildcard`	`I <3 you`
`00:19.07`	`onetwo`	`<3 wildcard`
`00:19.08`	`RodOfNOD`	`and u take 2088/370 and that gives u the sc2 number u want`
`00:19.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`for unit speed`
`00:19.25`	`onetwo`	`hey wild card are you good with sound editing`
`00:19.28`	`onetwo`	`or anyone for that matter`
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`00:20.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`is there any way to remove that circle around a units feet`
`00:20.20`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`?`
`00:20.29`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`or make it really really small`
`00:20.52`	`Tehwildcard`	`em`
`00:20.59`	`Tehwildcard`	`if you mean do I have audicaty installed`
`00:21.02`	`Tehwildcard`	`yes I do!`
`00:21.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`peace alls`
`00:22.17`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`00:22.48`	`onetwo`	`so how should i do my pvp + betting system in my rpg`
`00:22.54`	`onetwo`	`my current idea is that you enter an area`
`00:22.58`	`onetwo`	`it teleports you to pvp arena area`
`00:23.12`	`onetwo`	`where there is a beacon or circl`
`00:23.15`	`onetwo`	`that if you walk into`
`00:23.17`	`onetwo`	`puts you into the arena`
`00:23.22`	`onetwo`	`and then next person who enters beacon`
`00:23.23`	`depthsofchaos`	`deltoid its in the units actor settings`
`00:23.26`	`onetwo`	`gets put in to fight you`
`00:23.43`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`is blend duration in seconds?`
`00:23.47`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`for an animation kind of thing`
`00:24.02`	`onetwo`	`probably`
`00:24.05`	`depthsofchaos`	`no in penis size`
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`00:24.30`	`Ashamed`	`sup foolioez`
`00:24.49`	`depthsofchaos`	`sup you freak`
`00:24.57`	`Ashamed`	`Oh yeah`
`00:24.58`	`Ashamed`	`OH YEAH`
`00:25.06`	`wOlfLinG`	`Anyone know a trigger to stop the deselection of a unit?`
`00:25.12`	`Ashamed`	`yeah`
`00:25.17`	`Ashamed`	`like forever?`
`00:25.21`	`Ashamed`	`you can do that in data`
`00:25.27`	`Ashamed`	`flag > unselectable`
`00:25.46`	`Ashamed`	`but you can make a trigger delselect a unit too`
`00:25.47`	`wOlfLinG`	`Doesnt that make the unit unable to be selected?`
`00:25.59`	`Ashamed`	`... what do you need it to do?`
`00:26.09`	`Ashamed`	`select the unit and then deselect`
`00:26.30`	`wOlfLinG`	`Well, my map should keep the camera above your hero at all times and keep it selected at all times`
`00:26.35`	`wOlfLinG`	`Ive got camera working`
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`00:26.45`	`wOlfLinG`	`But i want my hero to ALWAYS be selected`
`00:26.59`	`Ashamed`	`thats easy`
`00:27.20`	`depthsofchaos`	`isnt there lock selection ?:o`
`00:27.21`	`Ashamed`	`you can tell the game to select a unit everytime the mouse is clicked`
`00:27.33`	`depthsofchaos`	`thats rly unefficient :p`
`00:27.34`	`Ashamed`	`thats what i would do.. so its not every 0.1 seconds`
`00:27.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`vert`
`00:27.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`very`
`00:27.51`	`depthsofchaos`	`at least make it reselect it on deselection`
`00:27.53`	`RodOfNOD`	`how bout unit deslected event unit selected`
`00:27.55`	`Alpha_vst`	`make every unit selectable :P`
`00:27.56`	`depthsofchaos`	`but thats bad still`
`00:27.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`00:27.59`	`Ashamed`	`thats what i was saying`
`00:28.17`	`depthsofchaos`	`deselection is an event`
`00:28.18`	`Ashamed`	`thats what i was saying`
`00:28.26`	`depthsofchaos`	`you said mouse click :o`
`00:28.35`	`Ashamed`	`well i meant like clicked on unit`
`00:28.49`	`Ashamed`	`but wolfling you can take the mouse away also`
`00:28.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`not even remotely the same thing`
`00:28.56`	`Ashamed`	`you can make it so they can't select units with it`
`00:28.58`	`Ashamed`	`i am pretty sure`
`00:29.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`well he probably wants to target the units with his hero`
`00:29.27`	`depthsofchaos`	`make everything else unselectable xD`
`00:29.38`	`Ashamed`	`yeah`
`00:29.43`	`Ashamed`	`and only do the triggers for the players`
`00:29.52`	`Ashamed`	`so its not always doing it`
`00:29.59`	`Ashamed`	`only when selecting other "Players"`
`00:31.31`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`00:33.09`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`is there any way to detect if a unit is not under attack anymore`
`00:33.20`	`onetwo`	`triggers?`
`00:33.23`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Because I see... Unit is Attacked but there is no way to drop back out of tha tone`
`00:33.28`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`can you edit animations through triggers?`
`00:33.29`	`onetwo`	`when a unit is attacked, set its custom value 0 to 1.0`
`00:33.41`	`onetwo`	`hmm`
`00:33.43`	`onetwo`	`oh`
`00:33.48`	`onetwo`	`before i do some complex thing`
`00:33.49`	`onetwo`	`yes you can`
`00:33.53`	`onetwo`	`actor - send message`
`00:33.55`	`onetwo`	`enjoy`
`00:34.03`	`onetwo`	`that action has all the ones from EVentS+`
`00:34.05`	`onetwo`	`in data editor`
`00:34.16`	`onetwo`	`afk`
`00:34.24`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and you are certain there is no event for it in the data editor itself?`
`00:34.29`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Poo :(`
`00:35.15`	`depthsofchaos`	`data editor has no events O.o`
`00:36.07`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`actor events?`
`00:36.10`	`Ashamed`	`Male Superb Bird of Paradise`
`00:36.13`	`Ashamed`	`oops`
`00:36.25`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:36.29`	`Ashamed`	`thats the trigger you should use`
`00:36.37`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`wait hwat`
`00:36.41`	`Ashamed`	`any unit = hero`
`00:36.46`	`Fatal5101`	`BIG ISSUE NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!`
`00:36.47`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`are you... talking to me?`
`00:36.53`	`depthsofchaos`	`actor events are only for visuals..`
`00:36.55`	`Fatal5101`	`:0`
`00:37.02`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Yeah`
`00:37.03`	`Ashamed`	`no`
`00:37.05`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Well`
`00:37.10`	`Ashamed`	`i was talking to wolfling`
`00:37.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`The actions are only for visuals, but the events are diverse`
`00:37.22`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`ie takes damage`
`00:37.25`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`which is what I have it at now`
`00:37.35`	`depthsofchaos`	`ok then do it rofl..`
`00:37.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but there is no "stops taking damage" or "no longer under attack"`
`00:37.40`	`wOlfLinG`	`Just wondering, if you select an enemy unit, does that count as a deselection?`
`00:37.40`	`Fatal5101`	`i got 2 different towers and when you goto select all of one of the towers it has another tower thats not it in the same group`
`00:37.42`	`depthsofchaos`	`boring to talk to a wall`
`00:37.43`	`Fatal5101`	`uh`
`00:37.46`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`The problem isn't doing it, it's undoing it`
`00:37.47`	`Fatal5101`	`how do i fix the selection groups`
`00:38.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`it should wOlfLinG`
`00:38.30`	`wOlfLinG`	`good`
`00:38.33`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:38.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`it did in wc3 :P`
`00:38.35`	`Ashamed`	`try that`
`00:38.54`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`is that at me?`
`00:38.56`	`Ashamed`	`nvm`
`00:38.56`	`Ashamed`	`that wont work`
`00:38.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Oh so confusing in here`
`00:38.58`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`@_@`
`00:39.01`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`00:39.04`	`Ashamed`	`that wont work`
`00:39.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`do u mean u want to make it so u can only select units of same type Fatal5101?`
`00:39.15`	`Fatal5101`	`i found it`
`00:39.27`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh you know what`
`00:39.29`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I have a solution`
`00:39.29`	`Fatal5101`	`FieldTier 2 - Infectious Tower`
`00:39.29`	`Fatal5101`	`Unit - Select AliasAuto-Turret`
`00:39.29`	`Fatal5101`	`Unit - Subgroup AliasAuto-Turret`
`00:39.32`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I will just make a timer for it`
`00:39.34`	`Fatal5101`	`it was that`
`00:39.46`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and just add the effect again if it's attacked`
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`00:40.08`	`depthsofchaos`	`deltioid how could not being attacked be an event?`
`00:40.09`	`depthsofchaos`	`rly`
`00:40.17`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Well, that is the problem`
`00:40.20`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`There is no event for it`
`00:40.28`	`depthsofchaos`	`cause its not an event`
`00:40.39`	`depthsofchaos`	`maybe state`
`00:40.40`	`wOlfLinG`	`hmm... DOesnt seem to work`
`00:40.42`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I never said for certain that it was, but there is most likely a way around this`
`00:40.53`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Like a timer :)`
`00:41.45`	`Ashamed`	`well you need to tell it to select it agian`
`00:42.21`	`Ashamed`	`p_r i would mess with the "take damage, property change triggers" try to make it so you can "Force the game to detect it by certain changes"`
`00:42.30`	`Ashamed`	`but i have to go. So i wont be able to help you`
`00:43.28`	`wOlfLinG`	`Right, the problem is with the reselection`
`00:44.09`	`wOlfLinG`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:44.45`	`Repo`	`New knowledge base page: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/movement/ by RodOfNOD`
`00:45.30`	`wOlfLinG`	`So how should i do that?`
`00:46.04`	`wOlfLinG`	`Because i can't find a way to referance a specific unit right now`
`00:46.10`	`wOlfLinG`	`Just unit groups`
`00:51.56`	`wOlfLinG`	`Gah!`
`00:52.00`	`wOlfLinG`	`This isn't working!`
`00:52.13`	`wOlfLinG`	`Debug isn't bringing up any problems`
`00:52.33`	`wOlfLinG`	`Its referancing the correct unit, but isn't selecting it`
`00:52.58`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/movement/ by RodOfNOD`
`00:53.07`	`depthsofchaos`	`is this a multiplayer map ?`
`00:53.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`weee`
`00:53.19`	`RodOfNOD`	`food time`
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`01:02.42`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Anyone good with 3DS Max?`
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`01:05.06`	`wOlfLinG`	`Wth! If my trigger is deselect, it works, but select doesn't! I have another working select one as well!`
`01:06.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`what do mean it doesnt work`
`01:06.52`	`wOlfLinG`	`It should reselect my unit. But it doesn't`
`01:08.49`	`wOlfLinG`	`My trigger is this: Unit Selection - Select All heros[(Triggering player)] for player (Triggering player) <- If thats deselect and i select a differant unit then attempt to select my hero, it deselects it. However, it doesn't reselect my unit when its on select when i select any other unit.`
`01:09.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`k testing`
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`01:13.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`wOlfLinG = http://pastebin.com/BUCiSK8B`
`01:13.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`that works but its ugly in that it deslects then reselects and see it do it`
`01:16.11`	`wOlfLinG`	`woot! ty :D`
`01:16.19`	`wOlfLinG`	`It at least works :)`
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`01:18.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`:>`
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`01:18.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`do u need to select any other units?`
`01:18.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`for targtging?`
`01:19.08`	`Reelix`	`Hi All! Any decentish RPG's with save/load function? :)`
`01:19.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`hi`
`01:19.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`there is a tutorial on the sc2mapster`
`01:20.17`	`Reelix`	`I'm more looking for a map for the entertainment value :)`
`01:20.39`	`Mozared`	`Have you played 'Stranded on Korhal' yet?`
`01:21.03`	`wOlfLinG`	`Btw, im busy adding in custom UIs now :D`
`01:21.12`	`wOlfLinG`	`My map is a dota/ rpg map now ^^`
`01:21.22`	`Mozared`	`The hero arena?`
`01:21.26`	`wOlfLinG`	`Grand Arena`
`01:21.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`how can a map be dota rpg lol`
`01:21.34`	`wOlfLinG`	`Well, less dota`
`01:21.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`01:21.44`	`Triceron`	`I was wondering if this'd be possible`
`01:21.49`	`Reelix`	`wOlfLinG: Are there bots? :p`
`01:21.50`	`wOlfLinG`	`Select a hero, it saves the xp gained (hopefully)`
`01:21.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`how is it in way like dota if its rpg?`
`01:21.51`	`Triceron`	`if you could make an action rpg`
`01:21.55`	`wOlfLinG`	`No bots yet`
`01:22.06`	`Triceron`	`where your attacks are button commands, and you inch forward`
`01:22.09`	`wOlfLinG`	`Theres heros and items. Thats how its like dota :D`
`01:22.18`	`wOlfLinG`	`Its more Diablo i think`
`01:22.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`thats like wow`
`01:22.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`not like dota`
`01:22.31`	`wOlfLinG`	`-.-`
`01:22.33`	`wOlfLinG`	`Its something`
`01:22.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`hehe`
`01:22.39`	`eggy`	`har har`
`01:22.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok`
`01:22.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`hey eggy long time`
`01:22.50`	`eggy`	`hio`
`01:22.52`	`Mozared`	`I finished another terrain o/`
`01:22.58`	`Reelix`	`Well, anyone got a link to a Diablo clone made in the editor? :p`
`01:22.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`weeeee`
`01:23.36`	`Triceron`	`tristram rpg is featured front page on sc2mapster no?`
`01:23.53`	`Mozared`	`It isn't finished yet, is it?`
`01:23.56`	`Reelix`	`rechecks`
`01:24.03`	`Triceron`	`no, not finished`
`01:24.16`	`Triceron`	`but it's one 'in progress'`
`01:24.26`	`Triceron`	`skill tree was there`
`01:24.48`	`depthsofchaos`	`it would be a waste to only make tristram`
`01:24.51`	`Reelix`	`Last Updated - 2 months ago?`
`01:25.29`	`Reelix`	`"your hero is linked with your Bnet Account." <--- Any decent offline RPG's? :p`
`01:26.03`	`Triceron`	`I can't wait till someone does a proper Monster Hunter map`
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`01:26.15`	`depthsofchaos`	`you cant link hero to bnet account afaik`
`01:26.41`	`depthsofchaos`	`no unique data you can get a hold of`
`01:27.16`	`depthsofchaos`	`which is sad cause i want my map to give me god mode :(`
`01:28.19`	`depthsofchaos`	`whats monster hunter ?:o`
`01:32.12`	`LordAbyss`	`is there a way in the data editor to pick random locations infront of the caster to use a calldown?`
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`01:34.26`	`wOlfLinG`	`I have multiple shops. If you get in range of one, a dialog pops up. However, it doesn't. Does this call when the unit gets within any unit in the unit group? Unit - Any Unit Enters a distance of 1.0 from (Random Living unit from Shops)`
`01:35.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`do u mean it should but it doesnt?>`
`01:35.34`	`depthsofchaos`	`it does not of course`
`01:35.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`increase the distance to 5`
`01:35.49`	`wOlfLinG`	`Well, i want it to appear when a unit gets within 1 range of any shop on the map`
`01:35.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`oh`
`01:35.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`what i see with that code wolf`
`01:35.56`	`depthsofchaos`	`it picks a random unit not accepts a random unit`
`01:35.58`	`RodOfNOD`	`is it will random pick ONE`
`01:36.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`of the shops`
`01:36.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`not all of the shops`
`01:36.19`	`wOlfLinG`	`:/ So would i need 5 triggers then?`
`01:36.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`5 events`
`01:36.25`	`depthsofchaos`	`5 events -.-`
`01:36.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`same trigger`
`01:36.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`unit gets within x structure`
`01:36.48`	`RodOfNOD`	`5 times`
`01:37.10`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok i added an effect HOW do i attach things like actors to it?`
`01:41.26`	`depthsofchaos`	`just create them at the same place?`
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`01:42.09`	`depthsofchaos`	`there an actor called modeladdition`
`01:42.10`	`Reelix`	`Gah - I'm stuck on an early-patch editor - Cant even change unit build cost :\|`
`01:44.09`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol doing it wrong`
`01:44.34`	`wOlfLinG`	`hmm... Somethings still wrong`
`01:44.48`	`wOlfLinG`	`I have the shops in the unit group`
`01:44.50`	`RoarMan`	`Hey guys!`
`01:44.53`	`RoarMan`	`Hi wolfling!`
`01:44.57`	`RoarMan`	`Hi depthsofchaos!`
`01:44.59`	`RoarMan`	`Hi Alpha!`
`01:45.01`	`RoarMan`	`Hi Reelix!`
`01:45.04`	`RoarMan`	`Hi RodofNOD!`
`01:45.07`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol ok stop`
`01:45.13`	`RoarMan`	`^^ Haihai!`
`01:45.23`	`Alpha_vst`	`no need to do that for every person`
`01:45.32`	`RoarMan`	`But it's rude to ignore D:`
`01:45.38`	`Reelix`	`:p`
`01:45.38`	`RoarMan`	`Alpha! Being rude is EVIL!`
`01:45.43`	`depthsofchaos`	`then let me see the remaining 60`
`01:45.44`	`RoarMan`	`EVVVVVVVVIL!`
`01:45.48`	`wOlfLinG`	`Woot! i got teh first Hai ^^`
`01:45.53`	`depthsofchaos`	`we like evil :(`
`01:45.53`	`RodOfNOD`	`hi RoarMan`
`01:45.58`	`RoarMan`	`Yea ily wolfling <3`
`01:46.00`	`RoarMan`	`Hai nod!`
`01:46.11`	`Alpha_vst`	`yeah but there is like almost 50 people so you know`
`01:46.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`wolf pastebin ur event`
`01:46.46`	`wOlfLinG`	`http://pastebin.com/`
`01:46.52`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`01:47.01`	`wOlfLinG`	`lol, forgot to click submit xD`
`01:47.03`	`Alpha_vst`	`doing it wrong`
`01:47.09`	`wOlfLinG`	`http://pastebin.com/EN3iTwnN`
`01:47.36`	`wOlfLinG`	`And the same but leaves and hide for my dialog closing`
`01:49.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`that doesnt work?`
`01:49.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`does it so anything?`
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`01:49.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`wOlfLinG what does happen?`
`01:50.01`	`wOlfLinG`	`Nothing`
`01:50.09`	`wOlfLinG`	`The debug doesn't appear`
`01:50.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`k what is unit 1 from shops`
`01:50.29`	`wOlfLinG`	`That would be a shop`
`01:50.48`	`wOlfLinG`	`hang on, ill pastebin the trigger that populates the group`
`01:51.09`	`wOlfLinG`	`http://pastebin.com/Pjqq4i8P`
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`01:51.35`	`wOlfLinG`	`Theres quite a bit of stuff you won't need for help. That just sets everything at the start`
`01:51.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`do me a favor and just paste the actual shop`
`01:51.42`	`RodOfNOD`	`see if that helps`
`01:52.01`	`wOlfLinG`	`Not sure what you mean by that :/`
`01:52.19`	`RodOfNOD`	`instead of using the group`
`01:52.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`just paste the actual unit like u did in the assignment`
`01:52.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`Pawn Shop [174.50, 208.50]`
`01:55.02`	`wOlfLinG`	`working now :)`
`01:55.21`	`wOlfLinG`	`Seems that the unit group wasn't assigning properly -_-`
`01:55.33`	`wOlfLinG`	`Anyway, thanks for the help :)`
`01:55.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`listening to Naughty Naughty by Danger Danger`
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`01:57.48`	`depthsofchaos`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geK_mREOOFE my progress with netstorm so far ^^`
`01:58.56`	`onetwo`	`oh i thought it was just gonna link to bnet 2.0`
`01:59.01`	`onetwo`	`audience laughs`
`01:59.58`	`RodOfNOD`	`interesting`
`02:00.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`depthsofchaos`
`02:00.34`	`depthsofchaos`	`ye it needs lot of content now`
`02:00.37`	`depthsofchaos`	`the base is done`
`02:00.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`i have no idea waht ur doing there but it looks interesting`
`02:01.10`	`depthsofchaos`	`hehe well building bridges to connect to enemy/resources`
`02:01.28`	`Reelix`	`depthsofchaos: Site didn't have a DL link for it :<`
`02:01.52`	`onetwo`	`whats the BG depthsofchaos`
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`02:02.01`	`onetwo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:02.04`	`depthsofchaos`	`bg?`
`02:02.12`	`depthsofchaos`	`made my own skybox`
`02:02.14`	`onetwo`	`ah`
`02:02.18`	`onetwo`	`so its like that planet bg`
`02:02.20`	`onetwo`	`that space maps use`
`02:02.24`	`onetwo`	`except yours is more tropical`
`02:02.50`	`onetwo`	`does your fraps actually record sound?`
`02:02.51`	`onetwo`	`mine never does`
`02:03.00`	`depthsofchaos`	`nah i made a new model i was lazy xD`
`02:03.04`	`depthsofchaos`	`it does`
`02:03.16`	`depthsofchaos`	`well if you use mic`
`02:03.21`	`depthsofchaos`	`at the same time its crap`
`02:03.36`	`RedWraith`	`depthsofchaos, it seems kinda slow/complicated`
`02:03.36`	`onetwo`	`yeah`
`02:03.41`	`onetwo`	`err`
`02:03.44`	`onetwo`	`yeah to depths`
`02:03.53`	`RedWraith`	`as in the rules do not seem easy enough to grasp for the average bnet player to want to play it`
`02:04.12`	`depthsofchaos`	`well its not made for casual gamers`
`02:04.23`	`RedWraith`	`k`
`02:04.24`	`depthsofchaos`	`the oriiginal game was rly hard also`
`02:04.31`	`RedWraith`	`the original game?`
`02:04.33`	`RedWraith`	`oh no...`
`02:04.42`	`RedWraith`	`And why hasn't anyone made populous yet!!!`
`02:04.45`	`RedWraith`	`or dungeon keeper :[`
`02:04.46`	`depthsofchaos`	`why`
`02:05.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`the marine has a thing called Movers - Ground what is this?`
`02:05.15`	`onetwo`	`someone should make a chechnya map`
`02:05.15`	`depthsofchaos`	`remaking good games aint shame`
`02:05.21`	`RedWraith`	`I suspect that remakes will never work, since they're tailored to specific platforms and controls which are not equivalent to the bnet of today.`
`02:05.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`02:05.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`remakes are da bomb`
`02:05.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`:>`
`02:05.42`	`onetwo`	`yeah and chechnya would be a literal bomb`
`02:05.48`	`depthsofchaos`	`i could acomplish everything so far`
`02:05.54`	`wOlfLinG`	`Any good custom UI tutorials?`
`02:05.57`	`RedWraith`	`No sir, partial remakes are da bomb. There's an 'uncanny valley' when it comes to remakes.`
`02:06.08`	`RedWraith`	`where it feels like you're playing something rehashed to work in this engine`
`02:06.12`	`depthsofchaos`	`im only having problem with the gui`
`02:06.31`	`depthsofchaos`	`well not actual prolem, lazyness :p`
`02:06.36`	`onetwo`	`you know what i think of your GUI?`
`02:06.39`	`onetwo`	`stomps all over his GUI`
`02:07.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`so noone knows what movers - ground is for a marine hmmm`
`02:07.16`	`Lilianna`	`looking at that game Netstorm, reminded me of another old game I liked that should be remade, where you flew a flying island, that you built cannons or spikes and stuff on, to go fight other islands, but you could destroy land, or rebuild, each thing blown up land or building would drop resources`
`02:07.25`	`onetwo`	`ooh yeah`
`02:07.27`	`onetwo`	`i kind of remember that`
`02:07.34`	`onetwo`	`someone should make a pirates type map`
`02:07.35`	`onetwo`	`thatd be fun`
`02:07.50`	`depthsofchaos`	`mover is for handling cliffs`
`02:07.59`	`depthsofchaos`	`mostly :o`
`02:08.11`	`Lilianna`	`movers handle non default movements?`
`02:08.15`	`RedWraith`	`Actually`
`02:08.18`	`RedWraith`	`mover is for handling`
`02:08.24`	`RedWraith`	`how a unit targets its movement`
`02:08.29`	`RedWraith`	`flock vs. block`
`02:08.32`	`RedWraith`	`air vs. not air`
`02:08.37`	`RedWraith`	`really the only options you get`
`02:08.40`	`wOlfLinG`	`D: How do i create a custom UI?`
`02:08.45`	`RedWraith`	`everything else seems not to do anything important`
`02:08.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`so what does it mean if a marine has GROUND as a mover?`
`02:09.11`	`RedWraith`	`the AI will have it walk through shit like mazes`
`02:09.14`	`RedWraith`	`whereas if it's Fly`
`02:09.20`	`RedWraith`	`it'll just go in a straight line`
`02:09.24`	`RedWraith`	`and get blocked`
`02:09.26`	`RedWraith`	`by everything`
`02:09.29`	`RodOfNOD`	`ahhh`
`02:09.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`so if i wanted a flyer to go around my pathing blocker i would pick ground?`
`02:09.57`	`RedWraith`	`Yes.`
`02:10.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`ohhh baby cool`
`02:10.05`	`depthsofchaos`	`but your flyer wouldnt fly anymore`
`02:10.10`	`RodOfNOD`	`oh why not`
`02:10.14`	`RedWraith`	`Actually`
`02:10.17`	`RedWraith`	`wait`
`02:10.19`	`depthsofchaos`	`cause it would not go up cliffs`
`02:10.20`	`RedWraith`	`I'm not sure`
`02:10.22`	`RedWraith`	`how you would do it`
`02:10.23`	`RedWraith`	`yeah...`
`02:10.25`	`RedWraith`	`that's the problem`
`02:10.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`idc about cliffs`
`02:10.28`	`Dustin`	`MAke the pathing blocker block air to`
`02:10.35`	`RedWraith`	`It's like Blizzard decided to be retarded`
`02:10.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`i want to simulate water`
`02:10.35`	`Alpha_vst`	`flying blockers`
`02:10.38`	`RedWraith`	`and attach footprints`
`02:10.39`	`RedWraith`	`to cliffs`
`02:10.43`	`RedWraith`	`for movement shit`
`02:10.44`	`Lilianna`	`http://www.mobygames.com/game/stratosphere-conquest-of-the-skies`
`02:10.47`	`Lilianna`	`Thats the game. :D`
`02:10.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`only way atm is to have pathing fly blockers`
`02:10.56`	`Lilianna`	`Should remake that in SC2`
`02:10.57`	`Lilianna`	`xD`
`02:11.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`but the units will get stuck`
`02:11.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`and not go around peninuslas`
`02:11.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`have to experiment`
`02:11.38`	`Alpha_vst`	`i wish this teleport effect would work :(`
`02:11.41`	`depthsofchaos`	`that looks rly similar to netstorm`
`02:12.25`	`Lilianna`	`depthsofchaos, Except you fly your islands`
`02:12.29`	`Lilianna`	`instead of them being stationary`
`02:12.43`	`depthsofchaos`	`well you couldnt do that with this engine :p`
`02:12.58`	`depthsofchaos`	`at least not so it would work online`
`02:13.13`	`Lilianna`	`Well you wouldnt use actualy land`
`02:13.21`	`Mozared`	`I remember Stratosphere, awesome game that was`
`02:13.27`	`Lilianna`	`You'd make a custom unit with a hexagonal bit of land, that had attach points on each point`
`02:13.32`	`Lilianna`	`and then a way to attach buildings on top of it`
`02:13.41`	`Lilianna`	`because the land was destructable too`
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`02:13.53`	`RodOfNOD`	`lego land :>`
`02:13.59`	`Lilianna`	`I remember playing it and I'd just make a really fast ship, with alot of spikes on it. c.c`
`02:14.05`	`depthsofchaos`	`well you cant just attach a unit to a unit`
`02:14.16`	`depthsofchaos`	`youd have to move them together`
`02:14.21`	`depthsofchaos`	`generating enormous traffic`
`02:14.53`	`Mozared`	`Stratosphere is probably actually the first game I stumble upon that the galaxy editor can't re-make`
`02:15.02`	`Mozared`	`You simply can't do moving bases =P`
`02:15.21`	`Reelix`	`Best map so far - Reflex :p`
`02:15.22`	`wOlfLinG`	`Why are there no custom Ui tutorials on sc2mapster? -___-`
`02:15.34`	`Alpha_vst`	`becasue you cant do custom ui`
`02:15.41`	`depthsofchaos`	`well maybe you could do upgrades that would build certain units`
`02:15.44`	`Alpha_vst`	`check dialog tutorials`
`02:16.08`	`depthsofchaos`	`i mean attach stuff like a turret on your ilsand`
`02:16.27`	`Reelix`	`Hold shift?`
`02:16.33`	`Reelix`	`;p`
`02:17.07`	`wOlfLinG`	`Doesn't Alpha have a differant UI to normal games?`
`02:17.20`	`Alpha_vst`	`me? yeah`
`02:17.43`	`Lilianna`	`thats not really a new UI`
`02:17.46`	`Lilianna`	`its just texture changes`
`02:17.46`	`Alpha_vst`	`its called a custom model that overwrites the original files`
`02:17.53`	`Alpha_vst`	`its more than that :P`
`02:17.57`	`Lilianna`	`:p`
`02:18.01`	`Lilianna`	`whatever!`
`02:18.08`	`Alpha_vst`	`but its still the same ui set up`
`02:18.13`	`Alpha_vst`	`cause you cant change the ui`
`02:18.16`	`Lilianna`	`The closest thing to a custom UI is hiding the normal UI and making dialogue buttons`
`02:18.34`	`depthsofchaos`	`that cant handle hotkeys and nothing :/`
`02:18.42`	`Alpha_vst`	`yeah :(`
`02:18.42`	`Lilianna`	`I made a Quit button`
`02:18.44`	`Lilianna`	`with a hotkey`
`02:18.44`	`Lilianna`	`:o`
`02:18.48`	`wOlfLinG`	`Well, is it possible to use dialogs to create a customish UI?`
`02:18.59`	`Alpha_vst`	`i hope the new patch fixes that ui issue`
`02:18.59`	`RedWraith`	`w0lfLinG, yes.`
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`02:19.10`	`RedWraith`	`You can't have a minimap with it, though, I think.`
`02:19.14`	`depthsofchaos`	`you can only make hotkeys by doing an event`
`02:19.20`	`Lilianna`	`Well true`
`02:19.23`	`RedWraith`	`I mean, maybe if you gave the original UI a custom model with just the minimap?`
`02:19.23`	`Lilianna`	`thats what I did. c.c`
`02:19.25`	`RedWraith`	`Not sure.`
`02:19.37`	`Alpha_vst`	`no`
`02:19.39`	`RedWraith`	`Oh, good luck with hotkeys.`
`02:19.47`	`RedWraith`	`You're fucked in that department. lol`
`02:19.57`	`Alpha_vst`	`you cant move the on screen buttons`
`02:20.00`	`depthsofchaos`	`a person starts spaming the hotkey, youre fucked`
`02:20.02`	`Alpha_vst`	`they are not linked to the model`
`02:20.27`	`Lilianna`	`someone also make a Rune Factory map? >.>`
`02:20.58`	`Alpha_vst`	`once i get this map into a release i will make something new :P`
`02:21.01`	`depthsofchaos`	`wish they just gave a command card ui element`
`02:21.16`	`depthsofchaos`	`just allow setting the dimensions`
`02:21.21`	`depthsofchaos`	`and ill love them`
`02:21.33`	`Alpha_vst`	`i wish they made them movable shouldnt be to hard`
`02:23.01`	`Alpha_vst`	`I WISH THIS FUCKING ABILITY WOULD WORK CORRECTLY`
`02:23.17`	`Reelix`	`How do I tell what version of SC2 I'm running?`
`02:23.31`	`onetwo`	`hey alpha`
`02:23.35`	`onetwo`	`have you made any custom icons/art`
`02:23.36`	`Alpha_vst`	`yeah`
`02:23.38`	`onetwo`	`that you had to import`
`02:23.40`	`onetwo`	`as Dds`
`02:23.51`	`onetwo`	`cause i made a custom bag icon by just copy pasting over the cloak abilitys button`
`02:23.52`	`onetwo`	`dds`
`02:23.53`	`Alpha_vst`	`sorta kidna i was playing with it`
`02:23.54`	`onetwo`	`which i exported`
`02:23.57`	`onetwo`	`but when i re-imported`
`02:23.59`	`onetwo`	`it was very blurry`
`02:24.06`	`Alpha_vst`	`idono`
`02:24.09`	`onetwo`	`whereas its quite sharp in photoshop`
`02:24.09`	`onetwo`	`k`
`02:24.12`	`onetwo`	`i think its mip maps`
`02:24.52`	`Alpha_vst`	`might be`
`02:24.59`	`Alpha_vst`	`dont do it :P`
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`02:26.46`	`onetwo`	`ah yeah taht was it`
`02:26.49`	`onetwo`	`i got rid of mip maps`
`02:26.54`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`02:28.52`	`onetwo`	`my god`
`02:28.56`	`onetwo`	`i just set my editor terrain`
`02:28.59`	`onetwo`	`to Low quality`
`02:29.00`	`onetwo`	`no shadows`
`02:29.06`	`onetwo`	`what an ugly sight`
`02:29.07`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`02:29.09`	`onetwo`	`back to high`
`02:29.25`	`Lilianna`	`Watching my dad play SC2 on low settings was x.x....`
`02:29.33`	`Lilianna`	`It was like going back in time`
`02:29.38`	`Lilianna`	`no shiney things at all`
`02:29.51`	`depthsofchaos`	`sc1 looks better`
`02:29.53`	`depthsofchaos`	`tbh`
`02:30.41`	`Alpha_vst`	`lies`
`02:30.47`	`onetwo`	`yeah sometimes Diablo 2 looks nicer than some 3d games`
`02:30.49`	`onetwo`	`because sexy images`
`02:30.57`	`onetwo`	`are higher quality than low poly 3d`
`02:31.15`	`Alpha_vst`	`i run my game in low :(`
`02:31.29`	`Alpha_vst`	`i need a new computer :P`
`02:31.55`	`Alpha_vst`	`well not really`
`02:32.24`	`Phaos`	`Arg Missles annoy me SO MUCH. I have a weapon, which the unit is using it's icon displays what it can hit and for how much, they turn and face and animate like they are attacking, except NOTHING comes out and nothing damages the target`
`02:32.43`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`02:33.02`	`Alpha_vst`	`this ability annoys me very much :(`
`02:33.07`	`Alpha_vst`	`been working on it all day`
`02:33.15`	`Alpha_vst`	`i almsot have it`
`02:33.48`	`Alpha_vst`	`its just not creating the persistant for the location of the poitn correctly or some shit`
`02:34.22`	`Phaos`	`I have been working on this missile since 10pm yesterday till 4am today slept until 12 and started working on it till 2pm (I live in NZ my time may not translate well for you :P )`
`02:34.40`	`Phaos`	`8 hours I have given this missle :(`
`02:35.02`	`onetwo`	`missiles are killer ;(`
`02:35.19`	`Alpha_vst`	`yeah i have been working ont his longer than that all i did today :P`
`02:35.29`	`Alpha_vst`	`sadly`
`02:35.30`	`Alpha_vst`	`gah`
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`02:36.53`	`Alpha_vst`	`i will get telpeport to work`
`02:37.07`	`Alpha_vst`	`YES`
`02:37.22`	`Alpha_vst`	`TELEPORT WORKS`
`02:37.28`	`Phaos`	`anyone handy with missiles ?`
`02:37.53`	`Alpha_vst`	`SWEET`
`02:37.57`	`Alpha_vst`	`I JUST NEED TO FIX IT`
`02:38.25`	`Alpha_vst`	`i didn't need the persistent after all`
`02:38.57`	`Phaos`	`nerd rage`
`02:39.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
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`02:39.23`	`depthsofchaos`	`missiles?`
`02:39.27`	`depthsofchaos`	`what part exactly`
`02:39.29`	`Alpha_vst`	`prozaicmuze will be proud of me :P`
`02:39.30`	`Phaos`	`yes`
`02:40.09`	`Phaos`	`well, my weapon is equiped on the unit and displays as much, the unit also turns and "attacks" the target, but no missle is launched and they take no damage`
`02:40.39`	`depthsofchaos`	`did you put in the weapon unit?`
`02:40.42`	`depthsofchaos`	`in the launch effect`
`02:40.48`	`Phaos`	`yes`
`02:40.57`	`onetwo`	`have you tried switching it with a default macro event`
`02:40.59`	`depthsofchaos`	`did you make the attack action`
`02:41.08`	`depthsofchaos`	`actor`
`02:41.08`	`Phaos`	`yep`
`02:41.19`	`depthsofchaos`	`that references your missile unit`
`02:41.23`	`Phaos`	`I have an attack, launch, missle and impact actor`
`02:41.25`	`depthsofchaos`	`launch and impact effect`
`02:41.37`	`depthsofchaos`	`you have to set them right..`
`02:41.59`	`Phaos`	`as far as /i/ can tell i do have them set right :P`
`02:42.10`	`depthsofchaos`	`well obviously you didnt :p`
`02:42.16`	`Phaos`	`exactly`
`02:42.21`	`Phaos`	`but I have run out of ideas`
`02:42.24`	`depthsofchaos`	`is the weapon set in the action actor?`
`02:42.24`	`wOlfLinG`	`Woot! Custom resource panel :P`
`02:42.31`	`depthsofchaos`	`i mean the weapons actor`
`02:42.32`	`Alpha_vst`	`MUHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA`
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`02:42.51`	`Alpha_vst`	`2 abilities down :P`
`02:42.57`	`Phaos`	`weapon set in the action actor ?`
`02:43.13`	`depthsofchaos`	`thats what i said`
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`02:43.34`	`depthsofchaos`	`sry the missile`
`02:43.34`	`Phaos`	`I can't give a weapon to the weapon actor :P`
`02:43.46`	`depthsofchaos`	`missile = weapon unit`
`02:43.48`	`Phaos`	`I'm confused, construct that sentence again xD ?`
`02:44.24`	`depthsofchaos`	`in your action actor, the missile field`
`02:44.50`	`Alpha_vst`	`WOOT`
`02:45.21`	`depthsofchaos`	`you made a teleport?:p`
`02:45.53`	`Phaos`	`you mean attack actor ?`
`02:46.39`	`depthsofchaos`	`actor type = action`
`02:46.53`	`Phaos`	`yes I do`
`02:47.11`	`depthsofchaos`	`ok then i rly wont shoot in the dark`
`02:47.19`	`depthsofchaos`	`cant see what you missed`
`02:48.23`	`Alpha_vst`	`YEAH depthsofchaos i made a teleporter`
`02:48.29`	`Phaos`	`If I upload the map would you take a look ?`
`02:48.37`	`Ingela`	`hook me up with a map someone`
`02:48.40`	`Ingela`	`i'm bored`
`02:48.46`	`depthsofchaos`	`sry cant do right now going to sleep in a few mins`
`02:48.51`	`Alpha_vst`	`a building that teleports units around it to any where i want`
`02:48.53`	`Phaos`	`damn`
`02:49.23`	`Phaos`	`Anyone thats handy with missiles able to take a look at a unit of mine ?`
`02:49.33`	`depthsofchaos`	`thats nice`
`02:49.34`	`Muffin_`	`beta still not up ? :(`
`02:50.09`	`Alpha_vst`	`of course not`
`02:50.11`	`Alpha_vst`	`sucker`
`02:50.25`	`Muffin_`	`sucker?`
`02:50.28`	`Alpha_vst`	`Okay so question`
`02:51.26`	`Alpha_vst`	`should i have all 3 units have the same set of buildable units? or should I have different ones for different units? for strategyness`
`02:51.26`	`onetwo`	`k i think i found a bug...for item containers you can choose an "Empty Face" which i assume means the icon for an empty item slot`
`02:51.31`	`onetwo`	`but upon trying several`
`02:51.32`	`onetwo`	`it has no affect`
`02:51.53`	`onetwo`	`stategy is good`
`02:52.37`	`depthsofchaos`	`same, for lazyness!!`
`02:52.56`	`RodOfNOD`	`did we figure out what range slop is in weapons?`
`02:53.55`	`onetwo`	`for pigs`
`02:54.01`	`onetwo`	`rrowland`
`02:54.04`	`onetwo`	`i just found your post`
`02:54.10`	`onetwo`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/1547-empty-face-in-container-item/#p2`
`02:54.13`	`onetwo`	`you there?`
`02:54.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`anything else besides slop is for pigs? :P`
`02:55.10`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`02:55.12`	`Phaos`	`I think I'm about to go mad`
`02:56.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`well dont do that`
`02:56.33`	`Phaos`	`but this missle :(`
`02:56.35`	`Phaos`	`missile*`
`02:56.40`	`Alpha_vst`	`if Prozaic coems back tell him i got my ability working if im not around :P`
`02:56.48`	`Alpha_vst`	`so he doesnt try to get it working for me :P`
`02:56.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`phaos do u run?`
`02:57.04`	`Phaos`	`run?`
`02:57.10`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes run 3 miles`
`02:57.19`	`Phaos`	`I bike`
`02:57.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`i find that if i have a problem that i bang my head on`
`02:57.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`if i go run it will magically pop into my head with the answer`
`02:57.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`might work with biking might not`
`02:57.46`	`Phaos`	`lawl I should give it a try none the less :P`
`02:58.15`	`Alpha_vst`	`you need to claer your head`
`02:58.29`	`Alpha_vst`	`and get a fresh look on things :P`
`02:58.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok i went to weapon target filters and turned off air attack and the unit cant attack air and yet it still says on the command console air and ground where is THAT flag please`
`03:00.16`	`depthsofchaos`	`bye all`
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`03:05.51`	`Ashamed`	`sup`
`03:06.08`	`RodOfNOD`	`hi`
`03:12.41`	`onetwo`	`yay all my items glow now`
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`03:16.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`wow`
`03:16.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`if u turn off air its not enough to make it say ground`
`03:16.27`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`03:16.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`it has to be required ground`
`03:16.34`	`Alpha_vst`	`duh`
`03:16.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`duh what`
`03:16.40`	`onetwo`	`you son of a bitch`
`03:16.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`thats not even remotely obvious`
`03:16.49`	`Alpha_vst`	`how is it not`
`03:16.53`	`Alpha_vst`	`if you turn off air`
`03:17.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`i said air was excluded`
`03:17.01`	`Alpha_vst`	`then its not ground or air`
`03:17.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`it shoots ground`
`03:17.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`but the tool tip says air and ground`
`03:17.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`tell me how thats obvious`
`03:17.41`	`Alpha_vst`	`idono makes sense`
`03:17.46`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`03:17.48`	`RodOfNOD`	`makes no sense to me`
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`03:18.07`	`Phaos`	`I'm inclined to agree that it's more obvious based on what you exclude than based on what you "require"`
`03:18.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`:P`
`03:18.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`just spent 15 minutes trying to find a UI field or something that didnt exist`
`03:18.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`then i said fuck it gonna look at banshee and them im like oooooh`
`03:19.02`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`03:19.07`	`Phaos`	`it's probably the same with my missile issue, it will be something with really backwards logic`
`03:19.12`	`Alpha_vst`	`i need to do something else`
`03:19.14`	`Phaos`	`but makes sense in a round about way`
`03:19.17`	`TheLaughingMan`	`he Phaos`
`03:19.23`	`Alpha_vst`	`maybe fix my ui and then work on textures`
`03:19.37`	`Alpha_vst`	`and then make my demo video`
`03:19.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`well i think ive almost successfully converted one non ability unit lol`
`03:20.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`only took me like 4 hours hehe`
`03:20.09`	`Alpha_vst`	`i still need to add bosses eak`
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`03:20.15`	`Alpha_vst`	`bosses will be a lot of work`
`03:20.39`	`Alpha_vst`	`they require special AI and abilities and shit eak`
`03:20.45`	`Jcup`	`Haiiiii!`
`03:21.03`	`Phaos`	`Bosses would be fun for that very reason`
`03:21.07`	`RedWraith`	`~seen tehwildcard`
`03:21.08`	`purl`	`tehwildcard is currently on #sc2mapster (3h 12m 25s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 3h 6s, last said: 'yes I do!'.`
`03:21.28`	`Phaos`	`~seen ProzaicMuze`
`03:21.29`	`purl`	`prozaicmuze <~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2h 59m 52s ago, saying: 'peace alls'.`
`03:21.40`	`Phaos`	`I can spy on people too :D`
`03:21.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`~seend RodOfNOD`
`03:21.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`~seen RodOfNOD`
`03:22.00`	`purl`	`rodofnod is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 167 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen RodOfNOD'.`
`03:22.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`03:22.34`	`eggy`	`clobbers the dumb bot ;-)`
`03:23.00`	`RedWraith`	`Hey, hey.`
`03:23.04`	`RedWraith`	`That bot is useful for me.`
`03:23.29`	`RodOfNOD`	`so if i delete a marine how do i get it back?`
`03:23.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`delete the object`
`03:23.44`	`Jcup`	`Unbelete it :D`
`03:23.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`say i save`
`03:23.53`	`RodOfNOD`	`and then close and open`
`03:23.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`now what`
`03:24.10`	`Jcup`	`How did u actually delete a default added unit?`
`03:24.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`well i went to the data ediotr picked a unit and said delete`
`03:24.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`i havent done it im just saying what if`
`03:25.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol it wont let me`
`03:25.24`	`Jcup`	`Try it lol`
`03:25.26`	`Jcup`	`Yeah`
`03:25.27`	`Jcup`	`see`
`03:25.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`stupid bliz`
`03:25.33`	`Jcup`	`Ha thats why I was like wtf`
`03:25.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`should have the menu inactive`
`03:25.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok how do i turn it off`
`03:25.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`so i dont see it in the help`
`03:26.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`listens to Heaven and Hell by Black Sabbith and DIO`
`03:29.41`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`RIP`
`03:30.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`yep`
`03:30.59`	`Jcup`	`meeeeeeeowwwza`
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`03:31.05`	`LordAbyss`	`uggh this is getting annoying, stupid data editor can't read my mind`
`03:31.16`	`Jcup`	`try harder`
`03:31.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`use the force luke!`
`03:31.43`	`LordAbyss`	`and im not even doing anything fancy`
`03:31.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`what is a marine shield btw`
`03:31.54`	`Jcup`	`what r u trying todo?`
`03:32.02`	`Jcup`	`Its a animation I tink`
`03:32.11`	`LordAbyss`	`all i want is the thor to do its strike cannon animation without any damage`
`03:32.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`well its a behavior`
`03:32.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`but when does it come into play`
`03:32.19`	`LordAbyss`	`then i can do the rest with triggers`
`03:32.23`	`Jcup`	`Actor Events`
`03:32.38`	`Jcup`	`The behavior only adds the hp :D`
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`03:33.28`	`Jcup`	`The way to make the marineshield come into play is to clear its cover animation or just not play the cover animation at all`
`03:34.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`well im just wondering when as a player i would see it work`
`03:34.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`is it an upgrade?`
`03:34.37`	`Jcup`	`When the upgrade marineshield is done`
`03:34.40`	`Jcup`	`yeah I think so`
`03:34.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`k`
`03:34.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`so i dont need it :>`
`03:35.27`	`Jcup`	`"Upgrade ShieldWall.Add" -> AnimClear Cover`
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`03:35.45`	`LordAbyss`	`so i can get the thor to do the initial animation, and the behavior buff comes up for a split second`
`03:35.50`	`LordAbyss`	`then it just ends`
`03:36.26`	`Jcup`	`Cuz its channelled?`
`03:36.33`	`Jcup`	`Make sure u have that checked?`
`03:37.32`	`LordAbyss`	`i have it checked`
`03:39.08`	`Jcup`	`odddduhh`
`03:39.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`so any way to add more textures for terraining than 8 i need 10`
`03:40.09`	`onetwo`	`dont think so`
`03:40.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`well there wasnt in wc3 originally unless u altered it internally`
`03:40.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`but it worked`
`03:40.51`	`onetwo`	`its not clear what their reasons are for it too`
`03:40.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`why they would allow only 8`
`03:40.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`is insane`
`03:41.02`	`onetwo`	`it could be for stylistic reasons`
`03:41.08`	`onetwo`	`to prevent overdone maps`
`03:41.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`03:41.13`	`onetwo`	`it could be because its still beta`
`03:41.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`thats not their choice`
`03:41.19`	`onetwo`	`or it could be a performance thing`
`03:41.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`cant see how diff between 8 and 16`
`03:41.31`	`onetwo`	`it was acceptable in war3 but i understand what youre saying now`
`03:41.43`	`onetwo`	`HL2 maps`
`03:41.46`	`onetwo`	`can have thousands of textures`
`03:41.50`	`onetwo`	`:/`
`03:42.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`:P`
`03:42.39`	`Alpha_vst`	`youc ant`
`03:42.51`	`Alpha_vst`	`textures take up a lot of space`
`03:43.02`	`Alpha_vst`	`from what i understand`
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`03:43.16`	`Ashamed`	`supz`
`03:43.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`the good news is`
`03:43.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`i can get by with 8`
`03:43.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`but i have to change the source for export`
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`03:47.39`	`Alpha_vst`	`?`
`03:47.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`i have a map in wc3 that uses 11 textures`
`03:47.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`i will have to kill 3 of them`
`03:48.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`so it will import properly`
`03:48.17`	`Alpha_vst`	`im sure you can make them with the layer blending`
`03:48.26`	`Alpha_vst`	`or something sorta the same`
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`03:49.50`	`payne`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/4405-restrict-reapers-random-trigger/#p1 I NEED HALP! D:`
`03:50.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`any idea on how to make an existing structure like a star port rotate. i have turned off all the stucture shit and still it wont rotate`
`03:51.26`	`Jcup`	`U need to edit its explicit rotation`
`03:51.27`	`Jcup`	`:D`
`03:51.35`	`Jcup`	`Using Host Site Operations in the actor`
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`03:57.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`k i did this: FieldSt Po Splat`
`03:57.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`Hosting - Host Site Operations +Enabled:Enabled`
`03:57.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:59.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`or i fucked up and it works hehe`
`03:59.15`	`RodOfNOD`	`ty`
`04:00.40`	`Muffin_`	`dsia olf goauela!`
`04:02.34`	`Muffin_`	`Â¿uÊop ÇpÄ±sdn ÊxÇÊ ÊÉ¯ sÄ± ÊÉ¥Ê`
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`04:07.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`grr ok sick of looking for it where is the cost/supply etc`
`04:07.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol nice Muffin_ :P`
`04:08.06`	`LordAbyss`	`waaaa my editor froze`
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`04:11.33`	`Squeegeez`	`mornin'!`
`04:15.11`	`onetwo`	`man i cant find it`
`04:15.14`	`onetwo`	`wheres that thread on sc2mapster`
`04:15.17`	`onetwo`	`about slowing the game down`
`04:15.19`	`onetwo`	`to super slow`
`04:15.23`	`onetwo`	`the guy had a video of a nuke`
`04:15.24`	`onetwo`	`exploding in slow mo`
`04:19.27`	`LordAbyss`	`is there a way to pick random locations in front of a unit to be used for a calldown`
`04:21.11`	`onetwo`	`wow i cant find it anywhere`
`04:21.34`	`onetwo`	`YES just found it`
`04:22.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`i cannot believe what we have to do to make a unit trainable on a structure lol`
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`04:22.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`still dont have it working its insane`
`04:23.04`	`LordAbyss`	`i still can't believe how much work some simple things are`
`04:23.10`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes`
`04:23.15`	`RodOfNOD`	`power is great but`
`04:23.16`	`onetwo`	`yeah`
`04:23.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`this is a bit ridiculous`
`04:23.21`	`onetwo`	`item buying is done the same way as training units`
`04:23.23`	`onetwo`	`takes sooo long`
`04:23.31`	`LordAbyss`	`sooo anyone know the answer to my question?`
`04:23.36`	`onetwo`	`its the scrolling and drop-down and double clicking`
`04:23.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`how do u add a unit to be trained during the game`
`04:23.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`i dont sorry LordAbyss`
`04:23.44`	`onetwo`	`theres so much blank space`
`04:23.47`	`onetwo`	`theyre improving it`
`04:23.53`	`onetwo`	`but its like lobbies in bnet`
`04:23.56`	`onetwo`	`lot of wasted space`
`04:24.06`	`onetwo`	`with tableview`
`04:24.19`	`LordAbyss`	`guess i gotta try with triggers`
`04:24.20`	`LordAbyss`	`hmm`
`04:24.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`onetwo can u add a unit to be trained via trigger?`
`04:24.59`	`onetwo`	`no idea`
`04:25.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`same ? to item`
`04:25.07`	`onetwo`	`that seems too far fetched`
`04:25.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`could do it in wc3`
`04:25.23`	`RodOfNOD`	`u could fake it with items`
`04:25.54`	`LordAbyss`	`i sooo figured out my other problem. it only runs through 1 repetition of the animation`
`04:26.04`	`LordAbyss`	`now i have no idea how to fix it`
`04:26.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`04:30.54`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/ by RodOfNOD`
`04:36.07`	`LordAbyss`	`Is there an easy way to play through certain animations of a unit via the data editor (ability)`
`04:38.49`	`Muffin_`	`diddddd`
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`04:47.56`	`LordAbyss`	`death to you data editor!`
`04:52.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol blizzard has a problem with its tooltip for supply it says "All living units cost supply" and yet a probe isnt alive :P hehe`
`04:54.09`	`TheLaughingMan`	`How isn't it alive?`
`04:54.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`the probe isnt living`
`04:54.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`its technically not killed`
`04:55.03`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Then what moves it?`
`04:55.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`but since its a mechanical its not alive`
`04:55.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`a comp`
`04:55.19`	`RodOfNOD`	`reavers are not alive`
`04:55.20`	`TheLaughingMan`	`which is where?`
`04:55.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`idk if ur joking with me or serious`
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`04:55.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`anyways wtf do i find the SUPPLY for a unit`
`04:55.53`	`Ashamed`	`Making triggers in this game is much better then sc :)`
`04:56.00`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes`
`04:56.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`of course`
`04:56.09`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Life isn't defined as organic beings`
`04:56.15`	`Ashamed`	`I like how you can copy for other players and it does it good`
`04:56.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`so a robot is alive?`
`04:56.31`	`Ashamed`	`all you really have to change is the player values`
`04:56.42`	`RodOfNOD`	`that kind of scares me ashamed`
`04:56.50`	`Ashamed`	`what?`
`04:56.53`	`TheLaughingMan`	`It technically is alive if it is self-aware and sentient`
`04:56.57`	`RodOfNOD`	`implys u are using multiple triggers for multiple players :P`
`04:57.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`04:57.09`	`Ashamed`	`not alot`
`04:57.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`well i doubt a probe is self aware`
`04:57.19`	`Ashamed`	`and they dont all go off all the time`
`04:57.29`	`RodOfNOD`	`not what i meant`
`04:57.36`	`Ashamed`	`then what do you mean?`
`04:57.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`im scared that ur using multiple events and triggers when one would do the job :P`
`04:58.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`id have to see ur event and code to see if my suspicion is true`
`04:58.13`	`Ashamed`	`I dunno.. I am kinda teaching my self`
`04:58.17`	`Ashamed`	`Want to look at it?`
`04:58.19`	`RodOfNOD`	`sure`
`04:58.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`pastebin me`
`04:58.30`	`Ashamed`	`How do you do that?`
`04:58.31`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Self Aware = aware of yourself as an individual or of your own being and actions and thoughts; "self-conscious awareness"; "self-conscious about their roles as guardians of the social values"- D.M.Potter`
`04:58.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`pastebin.com`
`04:58.38`	`Ashamed`	`ok`
`04:58.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes a probe not self aware :>`
`04:58.56`	`Ashamed`	`because i am not a coder :)`
`04:58.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`reavers sure arent they do the stupidist things`
`04:59.01`	`Ashamed`	`so i don't think like one`
`04:59.02`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`04:59.22`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Where is the computer the controls the units?`
`04:59.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`anyways TheLaughingMan how bout helping me locate the SUPPLY for a unit`
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`04:59.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`us SAY in the probe itself`
`04:59.48`	`TheLaughingMan`	`How much supply a unit uses?`
`04:59.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`with a little radio`
`04:59.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes`
`04:59.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`in the data editor`
`05:00.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Where are you looking?`
`05:00.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`dontmake me smack u`
`05:00.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`readies the trout, its in my hand godammit!`
`05:00.41`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Are you looking at Actors? Models? IDK what you see at the moment`
`05:00.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`i have looked everywhere`
`05:01.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`but obviously not since i havent found it`
`05:01.11`	`TheLaughingMan`	`It's in the main part of the Units near the bottom of the list`
`05:01.23`	`TheLaughingMan`	`or if you want you search for supply in the field search part`
`05:01.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`i found supplies`
`05:01.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`omg i get it`
`05:01.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`-1 = 1`
`05:01.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`05:01.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`ty`
`05:02.03`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Duh`
`05:02.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`u code in wc3?`
`05:02.23`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I codee in everything`
`05:02.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`well in wc3 it wasnt -`
`05:02.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`:P`
`05:02.44`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Cause in WC3 it was defined as something else`
`05:02.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`i figured that was supplied food or something and -1 meant nothing`
`05:02.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes yes`
`05:02.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`ty`
`05:03.13`	`TheLaughingMan`	`In SC2 it means how much from your supply pool is used`
`05:03.26`	`TheLaughingMan`	`in WC3 it means how much suppy it needs to be used`
`05:03.26`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`any one know of any Troll Tribes like maps in development?`
`05:03.30`	`LordAbyss`	`So my behavior is messing with the animation`
`05:03.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`Ashamed u got that link yet?`
`05:05.24`	`Ashamed`	`It wont let me add a file?`
`05:06.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`i just want to see a sample of ur code sorry`
`05:06.16`	`Ashamed`	`I do not know how to do that ><`
`05:06.19`	`RodOfNOD`	`u just select a trigger`
`05:06.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`and then pick copy`
`05:06.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`and then go to pastebin and paste it`
`05:06.29`	`Ashamed`	`ok`
`05:06.30`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`05:06.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`:>`
`05:06.47`	`RodOfNOD`	`so the event i care about is this one u are duplicating for multiple players`
`05:06.51`	`Ashamed`	`I just said i didn't think like a coder`
`05:06.58`	`RodOfNOD`	`np`
`05:07.03`	`Ashamed`	`i am doing alot`
`05:07.09`	`Ashamed`	`like 20 triggers each player`
`05:07.19`	`Ashamed`	`only 6 players`
`05:07.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`i undestand i just want to see one sample`
`05:07.39`	`Ashamed`	`k`
`05:07.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`preferrably smaller than bigger`
`05:07.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`just as long as its player specific`
`05:07.57`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I AM FUCKING BORED!`
`05:08.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`so it appears`
`05:08.16`	`RodOfNOD`	`watch lance today?`
`05:08.24`	`LordAbyss`	`You could always figure out my problem`
`05:08.26`	`LordAbyss`	`haha`
`05:08.35`	`RodOfNOD`	`39 and still godlike`
`05:08.46`	`TheLaughingMan`	`LordAbyss, to bad`
`05:09.04`	`LordAbyss`	`lol, right now i want to kill the data editor`
`05:09.12`	`LordAbyss`	`and its stupid behaviors and effects`
`05:09.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`use a bazooka it will ensure permanence`
`05:09.46`	`Ashamed`	`http://pastebin.com/L3Zvm6Ns ??`
`05:09.47`	`Ashamed`	`is that good`
`05:09.59`	`Ashamed`	`nope`
`05:10.00`	`Ashamed`	`its not`
`05:10.00`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`05:10.04`	`Ashamed`	`it just copied the names`
`05:10.04`	`LordAbyss`	`whenever the behavior portion of my ability starts it stops the animation of the thor`
`05:10.10`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`05:10.22`	`TheLaughingMan`	`You should reuse as much code as possible Ashamed`
`05:10.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`select the actual code`
`05:10.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`like hero sleect 1`
`05:10.39`	`RodOfNOD`	`and paste that`
`05:10.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`should have an event cond and actiuons`
`05:11.01`	`Muffin_`	`AHH THERE VOICES EVERYWHERE!`
`05:11.09`	`Muffin_`	`SHUY UP!!`
`05:11.12`	`Muffin_`	`STOP!`
`05:11.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`TheLaughingMan thats what i am helping him with`
`05:11.29`	`Muffin_`	`argg how do i turn off the voices?`
`05:11.37`	`Muffin_`	`help me`
`05:11.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`hmm`
`05:11.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`how bout a muffin in ur ear?`
`05:11.51`	`Muffin_`	`no`
`05:12.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`im sure it will work if u would just try`
`05:12.05`	`Ashamed`	`can i copy alot of triggers?`
`05:12.06`	`Muffin_`	`i opened like 20 youtube video and closed them all and tehre still playing`
`05:12.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`no`
`05:12.15`	`Muffin_`	`how to fix?`
`05:12.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`just select from top to bottom of one trigger Ashamed`
`05:12.23`	`Muffin_`	`it always happens with other stuff to`
`05:12.39`	`Muffin_`	`omg there riving me crazy`
`05:12.41`	`Ashamed`	`I am not saying i need alot of triggers for one thing`
`05:12.43`	`Muffin_`	`d*`
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`05:13.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`like this: http://pastebin.com/22JXV14h`
`05:13.42`	`RodOfNOD`	`just send me one of those hero select deals`
`05:14.04`	`Ashamed`	`this is my longest trigger`
`05:14.08`	`Ashamed`	`http://pastebin.com/q813eVYw`
`05:14.41`	`Muffin_`	`is IskatuMesk the laughingman?`
`05:14.59`	`Ashamed`	`Its actually going to be pretty advanced`
`05:15.07`	`Ashamed`	`but i might be doing the triggers wrong >< i don't know`
`05:15.29`	`Ashamed`	`like putting in some formula to read that all`
`05:16.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`wow`
`05:16.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`wtf does that do`
`05:16.38`	`Ashamed`	`its awesome`
`05:16.41`	`Ashamed`	`you need to see my map`
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`05:16.48`	`Ashamed`	`its actually really advanced`
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`05:16.55`	`Ashamed`	`that is a hero selection`
`05:16.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`hehe`
`05:17.01`	`Ashamed`	`they are differnt combos`
`05:17.04`	`Ashamed`	`it all works`
`05:17.17`	`Ashamed`	`and the end always sets it back to 0`
`05:17.26`	`Ashamed`	`i need varibles for each player though`
`05:17.33`	`Ashamed`	`thats whats with the 1,1,1,1`
`05:17.36`	`Ashamed`	`that is player 1's`
`05:17.55`	`Ashamed`	`Do you want to see my map?`
`05:17.58`	`RodOfNOD`	`sure`
`05:18.02`	`Ashamed`	`ok`
`05:18.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`dcc it to me?`
`05:18.11`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`05:18.14`	`Ashamed`	`rod you are killing me`
`05:18.14`	`Ashamed`	`man`
`05:18.21`	`Ashamed`	`I am stoned out of my mind`
`05:18.26`	`Ashamed`	`dcc?`
`05:18.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`click on my name and pick dcc send see if it works`
`05:18.35`	`Ashamed`	`ok`
`05:18.39`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`05:18.40`	`Ashamed`	`thx bro`
`05:18.53`	`Ashamed`	`I have not shown anyone this yet`
`05:18.58`	`Ashamed`	`.... so don't judge`
`05:19.03`	`Ashamed`	`i am really just learning shit`
`05:19.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`well i wont show it to anyone`
`05:19.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`i understand`
`05:19.15`	`Ashamed`	`no its not like that`
`05:19.21`	`Ashamed`	`juts realize i came from sc`
`05:19.22`	`Ashamed`	`not wc3`
`05:19.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`ya np`
`05:19.29`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`05:19.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`did u try to send it?`
`05:20.08`	`Ashamed`	`i dont see dcc`
`05:20.08`	`RodOfNOD`	`right click on my name on the right`
`05:20.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`u using mirc?`
`05:20.44`	`Ashamed`	`no`
`05:20.45`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`05:20.49`	`Ashamed`	`i am using just web client`
`05:20.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok lets see`
`05:20.50`	`Ashamed`	`ha`
`05:20.59`	`Ashamed`	`can i delete post on sc2mapsters?`
`05:21.08`	`Muffin_`	`yes`
`05:21.09`	`Ashamed`	`or maps`
`05:21.14`	`Muffin_`	`the little red trash can`
`05:21.25`	`Ashamed`	`maps?`
`05:21.28`	`Muffin_`	`on the right side of you avatar`
`05:21.30`	`Muffin_`	`yes`
`05:21.33`	`Muffin_`	`any file`
`05:22.44`	`RodOfNOD`	`u see my private Ashamed?`
`05:23.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`slaps Ashamed around a bit with a large trout`
`05:25.28`	`rrowland`	`I saw your privates`
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`05:25.39`	`RoarMan`	`ASHAMED!`
`05:25.42`	`RoarMan`	`Oh he's not here.`
`05:25.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`i knew someone was gonna say that after i typed it`
`05:25.47`	`RoarMan`	`ASHAMED!!!`
`05:25.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`hes here`
`05:25.58`	`RoarMan`	`Oh hi RodofNOD.`
`05:27.05`	`Ashamed`	`sup`
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`05:27.09`	`Ashamed`	`roar?`
`05:27.24`	`Ashamed`	`rod its kinda confusing`
`05:27.36`	`Ashamed`	`the beacons = 1 selection pretty much`
`05:27.42`	`Ashamed`	`for testing purposes its 1 mineral`
`05:27.49`	`Ashamed`	`but that will prob be set to like 15-20 in gam`
`05:27.50`	`Ashamed`	`game*`
`05:27.58`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Anyone here good wih 3DS Max Rendering`
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`05:49.39`	`LordAbyss`	`success!!!!!`
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`06:32.21`	`LordAbyss`	`is there a way to get the current direction of a unit via triggers?`
`06:39.07`	`Squeegeez`	`yeah`
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`06:41.48`	`axlyin`	`plz tell me prozaic is here`
`06:41.55`	`axlyin`	`aldjfldjkfj damn he's not`
`06:42.12`	`axlyin`	`anyone here good with beams and channeled abilities?`
`06:42.39`	`axlyin`	`onetwo?`
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`06:44.18`	`LordAbyss`	`what do you guys use to record videos?`
`06:46.12`	`axlyin`	`adsfljdfja someone who knows beamz halp meeeee`
`06:48.23`	`axlyin`	`onetwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo`
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`06:52.14`	`LordAbyss`	`if i create a calldown effect, lets say nuke, do i have to have a ghost academy somewhere with a nuke?`
`06:52.16`	`LordAbyss`	`this is via trigger`
`06:55.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`nite all`
`06:57.23`	`axlyin`	`onetwo come back`
`06:57.37`	`onetwo`	`im working on something`
`06:57.38`	`onetwo`	`whats up`
`06:58.33`	`axlyin`	`do you`
`06:58.36`	`axlyin`	`know how to do beams?`
`06:58.49`	`axlyin`	`I just did the tut on beams, but can't get it to work with my channeled ability`
`06:58.57`	`onetwo`	`no idea really`
`06:59.01`	`onetwo`	`prozaic is the man for that`
`06:59.03`	`axlyin`	`and it's making me want to punch babies`
`06:59.03`	`onetwo`	`but hes out tonight`
`06:59.06`	`axlyin`	`yeah ><`
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`07:03.16`	`LordAbyss`	`what do you guys use for recording videos`
`07:03.31`	`Squeegeez`	`sony vegas, fraps, youtube`
`07:04.19`	`onetwo`	`fraps too`
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`07:28.29`	`muffin_`	`looky`
`07:28.30`	`muffin_`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK_UqkGv4bQ`
`07:28.54`	`muffin_`	`a champaign video?`
`07:29.07`	`muffin_`	`lol never mind`
`07:29.21`	`muffin_`	`derp derp`
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`07:58.27`	`Repo`	`10milkywayedit: 03sixen * r107 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor/MainForm.cs: Finished "Launch GE" functionality`
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`07:59.48`	`Repo`	`New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc2gxutils/. SC2GXUtils. vlovsky (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen.`
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`08:10.37`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`08:10.39`	`onetwo`	`on my youtube page`
`08:10.41`	`onetwo`	`"You're 22? What happened to your voice to make it so... You know, faggy? "`
`08:10.42`	`onetwo`	`ah`
`08:10.46`	`onetwo`	`http://www.youtube.com/user/BlackIndigenousPosse`
`08:10.50`	`onetwo`	`hes pretty messed up`
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`08:45.02`	`onetwo`	`http://www.bestbuy.com/site/StarCraft+II%3A+Wings+of+Liberty+-+Windows/8719899.p?id=1200702781643&skuId=8719899&st=starcraft%202&lp=2&cp=1`
`08:45.06`	`onetwo`	`starcraft 2 = $5`
`08:45.10`	`onetwo`	`http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133971`
`08:45.15`	`onetwo`	`someone bought it`
`08:45.23`	`onetwo`	`only $8 charge on their account they said`
`08:45.26`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`08:45.55`	`onetwo`	`buy 100 and sell in russia`
`08:45.56`	`onetwo`	`gogo`
`08:45.57`	`onetwo`	`jk :D`
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`08:57.12`	`onetwo`	`you guys are more dead than a corpse`
`08:57.15`	`onetwo`	`!!`
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`09:06.20`	`Clord`	`they are just probably away`
`09:07.31`	`onetwo`	`you son of a bitch!`
`09:07.39`	`onetwo`	`lol`
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`09:09.50`	`Muffin_`	`WTF?`
`09:09.57`	`Muffin_`	`whos channel is this`
`09:09.57`	`Muffin_`	`http://www.youtube.com/user/BlackIndigenousPosse`
`09:10.19`	`Muffin_`	`who posted that here?`
`09:10.37`	`onetwo`	`[01:10] <+onetwo> haha [01:10] <+onetwo> on my youtube page [01:10] <+onetwo> "You're 22? What happened to your voice to make it so... You know, faggy? " [01:10] <+onetwo> ah [01:10] <+onetwo> http://www.youtube.com/user/BlackIndigenousPosse [01:10] <+onetwo> hes pretty messed up`
`09:10.57`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`09:11.13`	`Muffin_`	`this guys fucked up`
`09:11.49`	`onetwo`	`yeah`
`09:11.55`	`onetwo`	`no clue how he found my editor tutorials`
`09:11.56`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`09:12.18`	`Muffin_`	`"no clue how he found my editor tutorials" wat?`
`09:12.24`	`onetwo`	`he posted on my page`
`09:12.28`	`onetwo`	`thats how i found out about him`
`09:12.52`	`Muffin_`	`rofl`
`09:13.04`	`onetwo`	`ah`
`09:13.09`	`onetwo`	`thats the thing about youtube`
`09:13.11`	`onetwo`	`its full of that`
`09:13.12`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`09:15.25`	`Muffin_`	`o lawd`
`09:15.29`	`Muffin_`	`skunk..`
`09:15.32`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`09:15.41`	`Muffin_`	`i wild skunk appears!`
`09:16.17`	`Muffin_`	`dog just got sprayed for the 9th time....`
`09:16.21`	`onetwo`	`yikes`
`09:16.24`	`Muffin_`	`rofl`
`09:16.28`	`onetwo`	`theres a racoon that lives in my backyard`
`09:16.30`	`onetwo`	`under the patio`
`09:16.30`	`Muffin_`	`i knew the routine`
`09:16.32`	`Muffin_`	`no`
`09:16.36`	`Muffin_`	`backyard`
`09:16.46`	`Muffin_`	`right in the face`
`09:16.50`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`09:16.58`	`onetwo`	`skunnks = extremely annoying`
`09:17.29`	`Muffin_`	`i quickly drenched him in peroxide dog shapoo baking powder and conditioner and sprayed him down with hot water in the abck yard for 10 minutes`
`09:17.36`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`09:18.05`	`Muffin_`	`youd think after the ninth time hed learn..`
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`09:33.39`	`Muffin_`	`...`
`09:33.44`	`Muffin_`	`its quiet..`
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`10:17.16`	`EternalWraith`	`Guys, give me a cool name for a website`
`10:17.55`	`Repo`	`New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/highway/. Highway. ZoneXXX (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix.`
`10:17.59`	`hyarion`	`EternalWraith: www.myawesomenesssupersite.com`
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`10:19.13`	`hyarion`	`EternalWraith: www.zadionk.com`
`10:20.07`	`EternalWraith`	`Erm thanks Hyarion...`
`10:20.14`	`hyarion`	`www.fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.com`
`10:20.23`	`hyarion`	`EternalWraith: np :)`
`10:20.45`	`hyarion`	`what are you gonna use it for?`
`10:21.16`	`EternalWraith`	`Local business, consulting and stuff`
`10:22.05`	`wt`	`www.psychicmonkeyattack.com`
`10:22.08`	`hyarion`	`do you have a company?`
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`10:32.10`	`Fisker`	`www.ifuckedyoursonsdog.com`
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`10:40.27`	`Helral`	`meow`
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`11:23.08`	`Maul`	`http://paste.sc2mapster.com/2154/`
`11:23.30`	`Maul`	`anyone able to tell me why ive done wrong`
`11:24.38`	`Helral`	`hmmm let's see.`
`11:25.22`	`Maul`	`the error im getting if that even though ive defined "max bonus" as 25, i'm getting amounts of 100 or higher`
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`11:25.37`	`Pierro`	`Hello all`
`11:25.46`	`Maul`	`getting is*`
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`11:26.03`	`Pierro`	`Hang over mapping... is that so productive ?`
`11:26.12`	`Maul`	`no lol :P`
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`11:26.23`	`Pierro`	`goes open a bottle of beer`
`11:26.33`	`Beider`	`is drinking water to mend his hangover`
`11:26.49`	`Pierro`	`thinks Beider should fight fire with fire`
`11:27.00`	`Beider`	`thinks his girlfriend would not like that`
`11:27.00`	`Helral`	`your text display is the only problem I think.`
`11:27.19`	`Helral`	`the actual values are correct.`
`11:27.51`	`Helral`	`UI - Display ("Awarded " + ((Text(Aggression[i])) + " mineral maximum bonus for aggressi...")) for (Player group(i)) to Subtitle area <---- that line. should it not be Text(Max Bonus) instead of Aggression[i]`
`11:28.14`	`Krakarn`	`yup`
`11:28.30`	`Maul`	`ah yes`
`11:28.53`	`Helral`	`goes off to get some food.`
`11:29.11`	`Maul`	`thanks`
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`11:40.29`	`Helral`	`are there any more questions? ;p`
`11:41.07`	`Beider`	`How much wood would a wood chuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?`
`11:41.23`	`Helral`	`none cause he's too lazy to chuck wood.`
`11:41.47`	`Beider`	`lazy woodchuck`
`11:41.55`	`Helral`	`;p`
`11:42.12`	`Helral`	`next question ;p hopefully this time a sane one ;p`
`11:42.42`	`Beider`	`What came first, the scv or the command center?`
`11:43.06`	`Helral`	`the person who build the scv to build the command center ;p`
`11:43.58`	`Beider`	`well I'm all out of questions now`
`11:44.17`	`Helral`	`hehehe`
`11:44.21`	`wOlfLinG`	`Why doesn't a leaderboard have an offset? D: Its partly hidden by my custom resource panel`
`11:44.28`	`Beider`	`go look through the forums, I am sure there are some questions there`
`11:44.36`	`Helral`	`cause blizzard is stupid. ;p`
`11:44.53`	`Beider`	`wOlfLinG: the built in leaderboards are crap, they are just there to make it easy for newbs to make leaderboards`
`11:46.23`	`wOlfLinG`	`Yeah. Looking at it, it can easily be made better with standered dialogs`
`11:46.50`	`Beider`	`the only thing that is annoying to implement is the sort functions`
`11:46.55`	`Beider`	`but even that is not that difficult`
`11:46.56`	`Helral`	`I've got a question to which I don't know the answer ;p why does blizzard have an achievement dialog when it crashes sc2?`
`11:47.16`	`Beider`	`Helral: because the data is not there yet, it will be there once the game is released`
`11:49.59`	`Beider`	`ack wish beta was up again, feel like playing some starcraft today`
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`11:50.27`	`Helral`	`why not do the same thing as with edit boxes? display nothing cause it's not there yet.`
`11:50.56`	`Beider`	`wow portal for 1.5 euro on steam`
`11:51.12`	`Falsus`	`Yeah, the Steam sales are crazy`
`11:51.25`	`Beider`	`portal is actually cheaper than world of goo`
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`11:51.55`	`rrowland`	`world of goo cost me one sixth of a penny`
`11:52.13`	`Beider`	`damn why don't they have M&B:Warbands cheap`
`11:52.32`	`Beider`	`I was thinking of doing an sc2 remake of mount & blade`
`11:52.35`	`Beider`	`since it's awesome`
`11:53.02`	`wOlfLinG`	`Portal was free a few weeks ago`
`11:54.46`	`Beider`	`anyone know of any decent diablo type of games? I got titan quest which was fun enough also torchlight which was amusing for a while`
`11:54.50`	`Beider`	`would like something different though`
`11:54.56`	`Helral`	`Diablo I`
`11:55.00`	`Helral`	`;p`
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`11:55.23`	`Phaos`	`so rrowland I take it you payed the lowest possible amount for the humble indie bundle >: )`
`11:55.34`	`rrowland`	`:P`
`11:55.40`	`Beider`	`bah diablo I is boring :P`
`11:55.51`	`casperb`	`not boring, just old :P`
`11:56.17`	`Maul`	`im getting an odd bug with unit type cost`
`11:56.29`	`Beider`	`steam is mean though, it makes me buy old games that I used to like just because I can get them so cheap`
`11:56.33`	`Beider`	`like the x-com bundle`
`11:56.34`	`Maul`	`ive set the repair cost of a tank (tank and siege modes) to 10`
`11:56.48`	`Beider`	`and deus ex, will probably never play those games again but just like to own them`
`11:56.55`	`Maul`	`but when its killed by a cannon the unit type cost is returning 0`
`11:56.58`	`Maul`	`instead of 10`
`11:57.03`	`Maul`	`but when i kill it with a zergling`
`11:57.12`	`Maul`	`the unit type cost returns 10`
`11:59.45`	`Repo`	`New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/orbital-descent-v0-7/. Orbital Descent v0.7. Elenem (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix.`
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`12:01.48`	`Maul`	`actually`
`12:01.58`	`Maul`	`siege tanks in siege mode return 0`
`12:02.05`	`Maul`	`tank mode returns 10 correctly`
`12:02.51`	`Helral`	`Maul: it probably has something to do with the construction cost not repair cost.`
`12:03.31`	`Maul`	`no it's definitely repair cost as i have marines costing 1 to build but the default repair cost is 50`
`12:03.34`	`Maul`	`and it was returning 50`
`12:03.43`	`Helral`	`hmmmm`
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`12:04.27`	`Phaos`	`holy crap`
`12:04.27`	`Helral`	`and you did change the siege tank (siege mode) repair value?....`
`12:04.33`	`Maul`	`yes`
`12:04.37`	`Phaos`	`steam just said singularity isn't available to me :(`
`12:04.51`	`Phaos`	`"Not available in your region"`
`12:05.01`	`Jum-Jum`	`same with the transformers game`
`12:05.02`	`Jum-Jum`	`and blurr`
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`12:05.06`	`Jum-Jum`	`something to do with activision i thinks`
`12:05.24`	`Phaos`	`it's pretty stupid, I'm english speaking, what is there to localise ?`
`12:06.49`	`Pierro`	`Phaos you need to translate attack to attack`
`12:06.54`	`Helral`	`the difference between EnUs and EnGB ;p`
`12:06.55`	`Phaos`	`O.o`
`12:07.04`	`Pierro`	`color and colour`
`12:07.08`	`Phaos`	`not good enough!`
`12:07.10`	`Pierro`	`vere tricky one`
`12:07.21`	`Pierro`	`Behavior behaviour`
`12:07.29`	`Phaos`	`oh yeah and replace all "ize" with "ise"`
`12:08.00`	`Phaos`	`Yeah to be honest, Galaxy ed has been killing me iwth the whole "behavior" this it's "Behaviour" damnit!`
`12:08.16`	`Phaos`	`:P`
`12:08.35`	`rrowland`	`potato, tomato`
`12:08.58`	`Pierro`	`banana`
`12:09.07`	`Helral`	`you mean [patato] [potato] ;p (pronounciation ;p)`
`12:09.07`	`Pierro`	`gorilla`
`12:09.22`	`rrowland`	`some people say tomato, some say potato`
`12:09.23`	`Pierro`	`well`
`12:09.31`	`rrowland`	`some say both`
`12:09.44`	`Pierro`	`French use to be the international language. Wath a good idea`
`12:09.49`	`Maul`	`god damn siege moded tanks why dont you have a cost`
`12:09.59`	`Helral`	`french is a bad idea.`
`12:10.08`	`Pierro`	`nvm`
`12:10.16`	`Pierro`	`in 20 years it will be Chinese`
`12:10.23`	`Pierro`	`we will eat noodle`
`12:10.30`	`Pierro`	`and rotten eggs`
`12:10.41`	`wOlfLinG`	`They will invade when they have enough people xD`
`12:10.52`	`wOlfLinG`	`Chinese = zerg swarm ^^`
`12:10.59`	`Pierro`	`they need to reach the demographic point break`
`12:11.18`	`Pierro`	`but i m ok`
`12:11.22`	`Pierro`	`my wife is chinese`
`12:11.31`	`Pierro`	`i have a 3chines"wall`
`12:12.38`	`wOlfLinG`	`hmm... why is triggering player grey in the 'Any dialog is clicked by player any player' event actions?`
`12:12.59`	`depthsofchaos`	`cause hes unhappy`
`12:14.29`	`Beider`	`wOlfLinG: it's a bug, you can still use it`
`12:14.34`	`Helral`	`just ignore it being grey. ;p`
`12:14.42`	`Helral`	`same goes for experience level of unit ;p`
`12:14.54`	`wOlfLinG`	`i know i can. Just wondering :)`
`12:15.25`	`wOlfLinG`	`Ive been using it for the past 5 hours. Only noticed it was grey though :D`
`12:15.32`	`wOlfLinG`	`only just*`
`12:16.15`	`Pierro`	`Phaos can you read it now ? https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=17rCHELw_5nvN9DaeRcYfeMi2isiIE-5DQ4GAJ3xCqh0&hl=fr&authkey=CLOelp0E`
`12:16.32`	`Phaos`	`good question`
`12:16.36`	`Phaos`	`yes`
`12:17.03`	`Pierro`	`hmm well thisis it`
`12:17.52`	`Phaos`	`thats pretty coolio :D`
`12:18.10`	`Phaos`	`basic metal should be needed for ammo :P`
`12:18.48`	`Pierro`	`https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1qsdt4tdEB2q6ZQUN2EIzL_xlzf3VbRPhoYMAsaSZ1mY&hl=fr&authkey=CK_K6VU here is the armory crafting list`
`12:19.00`	`Phaos`	`oh neat`
`12:20.23`	`Phaos`	`ah hah!`
`12:20.25`	`Pierro`	`basically the weapon are built to use for turrets or trap`
`12:20.37`	`Pierro`	`be used`
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`12:26.12`	`Phaos`	`right, so you as the player don't do much of the fighting ?`
`12:26.48`	`Pierro`	`hmm well you can`
`12:26.57`	`Pierro`	`scv can handle weapons`
`12:27.09`	`Pierro`	`but as you don't have too many of them`
`12:27.16`	`Pierro`	`you d like to keep them safe`
`12:27.31`	`Pierro`	`They are not so expandable`
`12:28.14`	`Pierro`	`I d love to implement a system that slow unit which have an Heavy weapon`
`12:28.29`	`Helral`	`~seen redmarine`
`12:28.31`	`purl`	`redmarine <504d8ad2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.77.138.210> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 16h 33m 38s ago, saying: 'I can't really use much of his system'.`
`12:28.32`	`Pierro`	`unless they do bodybuilding`
`12:29.05`	`Pierro`	`doable`
`12:29.11`	`Pierro`	`with behavior`
`12:29.50`	`Pierro`	`body level 1 behavior = none`
`12:30.06`	`Pierro`	`bodylevel 2 = behvior bodylevel2`
`12:30.30`	`Pierro`	`and put the slowing efect validator to behaviorcount is not equal to 1`
`12:31.19`	`Phaos`	`sounds about right :D`
`12:31.53`	`Phaos`	`I am totally no closer to figuring out these damn missles :P`
`12:31.58`	`Pierro`	`ah`
`12:32.00`	`Pierro`	`yes`
`12:32.04`	`Phaos`	`time to find a missle tutorial`
`12:32.05`	`Pierro`	`I left yesterday`
`12:32.09`	`Pierro`	`but`
`12:32.16`	`Pierro`	`didnt You set mover ?`
`12:32.25`	`Phaos`	`I did`
`12:32.37`	`Pierro`	`have you tried copy past the Phenix missile mover`
`12:32.40`	`Pierro`	`and tweak it`
`12:32.41`	`Phaos`	`ProzaicMuze had a look at it and he couldn't figure it out either`
`12:32.58`	`Pierro`	`Do u want me to lookt ?`
`12:33.31`	`Phaos`	`sure`
`12:33.34`	`Phaos`	`I'll upload it`
`12:33.40`	`Phaos`	`because I since rebuilt the weapon`
`12:33.48`	`Pierro`	`localizet it`
`12:33.52`	`Pierro`	`FRfr`
`12:33.59`	`Phaos`	`kay`
`12:34.40`	`Phaos`	`How do you do Localisation ? I havn't needed to yet`
`12:35.28`	`Helral`	`use the localize app in the assets area of sc2mapster.`
`12:35.35`	`Phaos`	`fair nuff`
`12:37.57`	`Phaos`	`I'm getting an error :D`
`12:38.48`	`Helral`	`hmmm?`
`12:38.53`	`Helral`	`localize error?`
`12:39.39`	`Phaos`	`unhandled exception when hitting the localise button`
`12:39.53`	`Phaos`	`actually`
`12:39.54`	`Helral`	`hmmm`
`12:39.56`	`Phaos`	`I know what it was`
`12:39.59`	`Phaos`	`>.>`
`12:40.06`	`Phaos`	`had the map open in the background <.<`
`12:40.12`	`Helral`	`you forgot to close the map in the sc2editor?`
`12:40.18`	`Helral`	`hehehe`
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`12:42.29`	`Phaos`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/midnight-falling/files/7-alpha-release-a0-0-6fr/ Pierro your looking at the "Nox cannon"`
`12:43.02`	`Phaos`	`and the north island of the map is the current testing area :P`
`12:46.51`	`wOlfLinG`	`well, my dialog is sorta working`
`12:47.22`	`wOlfLinG`	`Trouble is, its not updating the kill count :/`
`12:47.26`	`Helral`	`sorta?`
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`12:47.49`	`Helral`	`you need to update it with a trigger.`
`12:49.16`	`wOlfLinG`	`i am`
`12:49.23`	`wOlfLinG`	`Ill pastebin the updating trigger`
`12:49.29`	`Helral`	`ok.`
`12:50.01`	`wOlfLinG`	`http://pastebin.com/bt2E0V08`
`12:51.12`	`Helral`	`Wolfling use: Set Dialog Item Text, instead of destroying and recreating the dialog item.`
`12:51.20`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Phaos`
`12:51.21`	`wOlfLinG`	`ok`
`12:52.16`	`Helral`	`((Triggering unit) is in All heros) == true <-- you only update it when a hero dies?`
`12:52.24`	`Pierro`	`there is a fire animation`
`12:52.28`	`Pierro`	`but no missile launch`
`12:52.46`	`Phaos`	`correct`
`12:52.52`	`Phaos`	`thats whats been happening since remaking it`
`12:53.19`	`wOlfLinG`	`only heros give kills`
`12:53.46`	`Helral`	`hmmmm....`
`12:53.51`	`Helral`	`it's player vs player?`
`12:54.00`	`wOlfLinG`	`it will be`
`12:54.14`	`wOlfLinG`	`The enemy unit is in All heros as well`
`12:54.33`	`Helral`	`you want to retrieve the owner of damage effect for the kill increase, not the triggering player.`
`12:54.34`	`Pierro`	`ok`
`12:54.40`	`Pierro`	`i fixed the dammage`
`12:54.43`	`Pierro`	`i killunit`
`12:54.44`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Phaos, I had some questions for you about rendering in 3DS Max`
`12:54.45`	`Pierro`	`now`
`12:55.10`	`Phaos`	`Yah ?`
`12:55.24`	`Phaos`	`why wasn't it doign damage ?`
`12:55.40`	`Pierro`	`your missile had no mover`
`12:56.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Whenever I render it, it is never centered. I would like some sort of way to center it automatically and zoom in till it can't zoom in anymore while using the isometric type of view`
`12:56.15`	`Clord`	`it is sunday aka internet is dry of news`
`12:58.52`	`Phaos`	`whutcha mean ? it totally did in the weapon unit`
`12:59.04`	`Phaos`	`Hmm`
`12:59.08`	`Pierro`	`go to missie effect`
`12:59.12`	`Pierro`	`mover++ field`
`12:59.16`	`Pierro`	`i added acidspore`
`12:59.19`	`Pierro`	`and 7 range`
`12:59.21`	`Phaos`	`you need to set up a camera TheLaughingMan`
`12:59.28`	`Phaos`	`and have the renderer always render from that camera`
`12:59.39`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Hows?`
`12:59.59`	`Phaos`	`I'll just load up max so I can walk you through it`
`13:00.06`	`TheLaughingMan`	`yay!`
`13:01.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Also, any idea on how to add a grayscale texture`
`13:01.20`	`Falsus`	`Hmm`
`13:01.23`	`Phaos`	`gotta make it :P`
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`13:01.33`	`Falsus`	`Why is there a Milky Way Editor?`
`13:01.55`	`TheLaughingMan`	`And map that textures to Emit`
`13:02.10`	`Helral`	`Wolfling: did you get it to work yet?`
`13:03.57`	`Phaos`	`ok so 1. click create, 2. click cameras 3. click target 4. click and drag in the iso viewport at this point it doesn't matter where. 5. click your mover tool, then click the box that the camera is looking it... (more to come)`
`13:04.24`	`Phaos`	`6. down the bottom of the window is the X Y Z coordinates. change these all to 0 with the box selected`
`13:04.42`	`Phaos`	`7. move the actual camera where you want it now`
`13:05.32`	`Phaos`	`to see what you camera is looking at. right click a viewports name (i.e top) and go to camera, then your camera`
`13:06.43`	`Phaos`	`8. ckick on Render setup in the top right of the toolbar. down the bottom of the new menu make sure "View" is set to Camera 1`
`13:06.50`	`Phaos`	`and that should do it :)`
`13:07.15`	`TheLaughingMan`	`@.@`
`13:07.24`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I am at step 3`
`13:07.25`	`Phaos`	`what don't you understand :P ?`
`13:07.32`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Can't get to Step 4`
`13:07.33`	`Phaos`	`hokay`
`13:07.34`	`Phaos`	`so`
`13:07.46`	`Phaos`	`in your create panel on the right`
`13:07.56`	`TheLaughingMan`	`yes`
`13:08.04`	`Phaos`	`just underneath the first row of icons, there is new icons`
`13:08.07`	`Phaos`	`click the camera icon`
`13:08.17`	`Phaos`	`what do you see ?`
`13:09.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Standard, Object Type -> Target, Name & Color, Parameters, Depth of Field Parameters`
`13:09.18`	`Phaos`	`yep`
`13:09.24`	`Phaos`	`click on the target button`
`13:09.44`	`Phaos`	`now in the Perspective window (default bottom right) click and drag`
`13:11.31`	`TheLaughingMan`	`ok`
`13:12.05`	`Phaos`	`go from there :)`
`13:12.14`	`Phaos`	`if you get stuck lemme know`
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`13:13.14`	`Aww`	`Hi everyone`
`13:13.23`	`Aww`	`Do you know where I can download the SC II galaxy editor ?`
`13:13.35`	`Aww`	`cuz i reinstalled beta`
`13:14.24`	`Helral`	`poke someone who can share it.....`
`13:15.38`	`Helral`	`think MindWorX has a torrent of it.`
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`13:18.45`	`Pierro`	`hmm`
`13:19.02`	`Pierro`	`i have a model spawning at the unit source`
`13:19.12`	`Pierro`	`doesn't fly though`
`13:19.28`	`Helral`	`is the missile's mover correct?`
`13:19.56`	`Pierro`	`i think it is the issu`
`13:21.36`	`Helral`	`is thinking about designing an inventory system like in Dialo I`
`13:22.31`	`Helral`	`corrects himself: Diablo I`
`13:22.35`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Phaos, ok i got it working`
`13:22.42`	`Phaos`	`cool :)`
`13:22.51`	`Phaos`	`is that what you needed ?`
`13:23.18`	`Squeegeez`	`Dialo I - sounds like a mexican cell phone game`
`13:23.33`	`TheLaughingMan`	`And how do I add an Emit Map?`
`13:24.00`	`Phaos`	`it's called a luminance map in Max`
`13:24.02`	`Helral`	`thinks the system is the same as in dungeon siege, and many other games... different items can have different sizes (1x2, 1x3, 2x2, 2x3, 2x4)`
`13:24.16`	`Phaos`	`and you add it like you add a specular or normal or bump`
`13:25.25`	`Phaos`	`the weapon I am basing it off 'spore crawler' doesn't have a missle mover`
`13:25.40`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Well I am under the maps for my material`
`13:25.47`	`Squeegeez`	`What is the kills stat for a unit called in the editor? (you get a certain amount of kills and are assigned a rank)`
`13:26.29`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Ambient, Specular Color, Specular Level, Glossiness, Self-Illumination, Opacity, Filter Color, Bump, Reflection, Refraction, Displacement`
`13:26.29`	`Helral`	`veterancy stuff?`
`13:27.14`	`Squeegeez`	`yeah, veterancy stuff, i'm trying to make a trigger that gets the "kills" value of a unit`
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`13:27.35`	`Squeegeez`	`but i'm not sure where to look, or what the editor calls it :<`
`13:27.39`	`Helral`	`ow... you want to retrieve the kills value. one moment`
`13:27.56`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Phaos?`
`13:28.20`	`Helral`	`Squeegeez: Unit Property --> ((Killing unit) Kills (Current))`
`13:28.54`	`Squeegeez`	`thanks! =)`
`13:29.30`	`Squeegeez`	`now lets see how i can get the kills of 100 units and determine which one is the "highest"`
`13:31.42`	`Helral`	`var HighestKillsUnit (Unit) = No Unit. pick each unit in unit group do if (HighestKillsUnit != No Unit, ((HighestKillsUnit) Kills (Current)) < ((Picked Unit) Kills (Current)) then set HighestKillsUnit = Picked Unit. <-- something like that Squeegeez ;p`
`13:32.17`	`Squeegeez`	`lol i was going to try to do it myself... you're making me lazy! =O`
`13:32.30`	`Helral`	`well I haven't coded that in the trigger editor ;p`
`13:32.32`	`Clord`	`all it take simple loop, if thing and some variables`
`13:32.35`	`Clord`	`almost`
`13:32.38`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Meh`
`13:32.39`	`Helral`	`so I don't know if all what I said is possible ;p`
`13:33.18`	`Phaos`	`sel-illumination TheLaughingMan`
`13:33.26`	`Phaos`	`it's not quite the same tho`
`13:33.31`	`Phaos`	`Emit maps are unique`
`13:33.55`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Well I added the map but it won't Illuminate the cockpit`
`13:34.00`	`Phaos`	`blizzard probably have them as a special channel on the texture it's self`
`13:34.54`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I am trying to just get it to illuminate in 3DS MAX ATM`
`13:35.09`	`Phaos`	`Pierro I have it hurting the target too, What I had to do was go to Weapon - Nox Cannon in Units and change the mover there to Default missle, no graphics yet :s`
`13:35.30`	`Phaos`	`well it's definatly the self illumination map`
`13:35.43`	`Phaos`	`you need to texture your own map for that one tho`
`13:35.56`	`Pierro`	`hmm because actor event of the missile should be set to UnitBirth.NB28x weapon`
`13:35.58`	`Pierro`	`create`
`13:36.28`	`Phaos`	`take the texture on the diffuse channel into photoshop, color the cockpit section white, and the rest of the map black, save as your "illum" map, and then put that in, see what happens`
`13:37.04`	`Phaos`	`you mean the actor event of Nox Cannon (Missle) or (Attack)`
`13:37.55`	`Pierro`	`lol`
`13:37.58`	`Pierro`	`i fixed`
`13:38.13`	`Pierro`	`ok`
`13:38.15`	`Pierro`	`:)`
`13:38.20`	`Pierro`	`in the missile effect`
`13:38.23`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Phaos, i have my own illum map`
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`13:38.33`	`Pierro`	`PHaos :)`
`13:38.38`	`Pierro`	`you ll lol too`
`13:38.50`	`Pierro`	`go in the effect missile`
`13:39.09`	`Pierro`	`Champ28bxNoxCannonMissile (MF - 28b-x Nox Cannon (Missile)) CEffectLaunchMissile_ImpactRange0`
`13:39.09`	`Phaos`	`nox cannon (Missle) Effect, there now`
`13:39.23`	`Pierro`	`set impact range to 0 for god sake`
`13:39.25`	`Pierro`	`!!`
`13:39.26`	`Phaos`	`Champ ?`
`13:39.28`	`Pierro`	`field`
`13:39.30`	`Pierro`	`in french`
`13:39.37`	`Phaos`	`ah :P`
`13:39.41`	`Pierro`	`well`
`13:39.42`	`Pierro`	`then`
`13:39.46`	`Phaos`	`woops >.>`
`13:39.52`	`Pierro`	`your missile mover is the default generic`
`13:39.57`	`Pierro`	`now go tweak it`
`13:40.02`	`Pierro`	`and voila`
`13:40.13`	`Pierro`	`also`
`13:40.22`	`Pierro`	`in the missile actor`
`13:40.30`	`Pierro`	`you should set in event`
`13:40.38`	`Pierro`	`UnitBirth.NBweapon`
`13:40.43`	`Pierro`	`action Create`
`13:40.55`	`Pierro`	`like all other missile actor`
`13:41.15`	`Pierro`	`but anyway i like the big robot`
`13:41.16`	`Aww`	`genre y'a des franÃ§ais x)`
`13:41.21`	`Pierro`	`bah ouai`
`13:41.24`	`Aww`	`:)`
`13:41.25`	`Pierro`	`carrÃ©ment`
`13:41.27`	`Aww`	`Dis-moi`
`13:41.30`	`Aww`	`tu sais pas ou je peux dl l'Ã©diteur ?`
`13:41.37`	`Aww`	`j'ai du rÃ©installer sc II`
`13:41.38`	`Pierro`	`alors Ã§a non dÃ©solÃ©`
`13:41.46`	`Pierro`	`cherche les patchs`
`13:41.57`	`Pierro`	`et met sc2 Ã jour`
`13:42.08`	`Pierro`	`il devrait s'installer`
`13:42.14`	`rrowland`	`j'aime jouer aux jeux video`
`13:42.19`	`Pierro`	`:)`
`13:42.26`	`Aww`	`xD rrowland`
`13:42.40`	`Aww`	`ok Pierro, mais je dois installer tous les patchs ? (1->15) ?`
`13:43.06`	`Pierro`	`whic patch brought the GE`
`13:43.10`	`Pierro`	`the 12 ?`
`13:43.20`	`casperb`	`yeah patch 11 or 12`
`13:43.21`	`Phaos`	yeah like 12, but `12 editor sucks
`13:43.27`	`casperb`	`16 is current`
`13:43.27`	`Phaos`	`you need at least patch 14`
`13:43.43`	`Aww`	`hmm`
`13:43.45`	`Aww`	`thanks guys`
`13:43.57`	`Aww`	`Well, 11, 12, 16 or 14 xD`
`13:44.07`	`casperb`	`Patch servers are still up?`
`13:44.15`	`Helral`	`don't think they are atm.`
`13:44.28`	`Phaos`	`16 is omptimal :P 14 if you don't want the latest for some strange reason`
`13:44.46`	`casperb`	`meh want to wipe my primary drive :s`
`13:45.17`	`casperb`	`SC2 works without reg entries?`
`13:45.50`	`casperb`	`editor needs a path to SC2 i think`
`13:46.14`	`Aww`	`well but patchs aren't up`
`13:46.38`	`casperb`	`some torrent sites mirror them i think`
`13:46.58`	`casperb`	`but again patch issue`
`13:47.11`	`casperb`	`ah well, bnet will be up soon ;)`
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`13:48.38`	`Squeegeez`	`well /that/ was easy http://pastebin.com/U7XANvr4`
`13:48.41`	`Pierro`	`So Phaos how is it going on ?`
`13:48.50`	`Phaos`	`kinda ok :P`
`13:48.57`	`Phaos`	`back to where I was the other day`
`13:48.57`	`Aww`	`Soon xD`
`13:49.09`	`Phaos`	`sorta`
`13:49.15`	`Phaos`	`I have no impact effect`
`13:49.19`	`Pierro`	`dammit`
`13:49.22`	`Pierro`	`Use mover`
`13:49.24`	`Pierro`	`lol`
`13:49.27`	`Phaos`	`and it's not coming from the gun`
`13:49.35`	`Helral`	`hehehe that's also possible, Squeegeez ;p`
`13:49.36`	`Pierro`	`you need a site`
`13:49.38`	`Pierro`	`operator`
`13:49.39`	`Phaos`	`I am using a mover :P`
`13:50.00`	`Pierro`	`you know its kinda like the uberlisk`
`13:50.09`	`Pierro`	`instead of tentacles`
`13:50.17`	`Pierro`	`its flying blob`
`13:50.32`	`Phaos`	`for some reason I don't think it's using the attack actor`
`13:50.38`	`Pierro`	`You need a launching point on your gun actor`
`13:50.47`	`Pierro`	`no its not`
`13:51.36`	`Phaos`	`well how do I get it using the attack actor ?`
`13:53.08`	`Pierro`	`Check uberlisk Prozaic tutorial`
`13:53.58`	`Phaos`	`Hmmmm`
`13:54.03`	`Phaos`	`Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm`
`13:54.18`	`Phaos`	`I just went to Nox Cannon Movers and changed it to default missle.`
`13:54.31`	`Phaos`	`after removing the connection to the weapon unit`
`13:54.35`	`Phaos`	`and uh`
`13:54.49`	`Phaos`	`my creature just threw it's self at the target and dissapeared`
`13:55.48`	`Pierro`	`ah`
`13:55.49`	`Helral`	`lol your unit fired itself as a missile... O.o`
`13:55.53`	`Pierro`	`there is a mistake i found`
`13:55.57`	`Phaos`	`apaprently`
`13:56.07`	`Pierro`	`you need to set target and launching target correctly`
`13:56.07`	`Squeegeez`	`hahaha what?`
`13:57.13`	`Squeegeez`	`interesting kamikaze ability you have giong there`
`13:57.14`	`Phaos`	`I have set it correctly :P`
`13:57.32`	`Helral`	`Phaos has the missile that needs to be fire not set correctly, so the unit shoots itself ;p`
`13:57.51`	`Phaos`	`I have Launch location source unit`
`13:57.57`	`Phaos`	`target location target point`
`14:00.32`	`Pierro`	`launch target`
`14:00.36`	`Pierro`	`caster`
`14:00.40`	`Pierro`	`target loca`
`14:00.43`	`Pierro`	`target`
`14:00.46`	`Pierro`	`or poin`
`14:00.52`	`Pierro`	`or point/target`
`14:01.04`	`Pierro`	`Ammo used`
`14:01.13`	`Pierro`	`your actual missile unit`
`14:02.16`	`Phaos`	`i'm really trying to figure out at this point what is stopping my attack actor from getting involved`
`14:06.37`	`Squeegeez`	`it was asked awhile back if neutral buildings could be entered by multiple players, did anyone get an answer to that?`
`14:08.34`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Muffin_ (42b73639@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.183.54.57)`
`14:08.35`	`Squeegeez`	`i don't need to have multiple players inside at the same time, i just need 1 bunker that allows any player to enter, and i'll give it to the player that enters`
`14:08.55`	`Muffin_`	`moofin.`
`14:09.02`	`Muffin_`	`is here..`
`14:09.11`	`Squeegeez`	`is that like a cow with a fin?`
`14:09.17`	`Muffin_`	`yes`
`14:09.39`	`Squeegeez`	`probably doesn't swim very well :<`
`14:09.45`	`Muffin_`	`you are wise grasshopper.`
`14:09.50`	`rrowland`	`naw its an african american family`
`14:09.54`	`rrowland`	`theyre moofin on up`
`14:10.26`	`rrowland`	`(to the east side)`
`14:10.27`	`Muffin_`	`somone give me your email.`
`14:10.44`	`Muffin_`	`i need to test a spam bot..`
`14:10.47`	`Muffin_`	`rofl`
`14:11.02`	`Squeegeez`	`i have 3 emails, one specifically for spam =P`
`14:11.18`	`Muffin_`	`..`
`14:11.23`	`Muffin_`	`spamming wut.`
`14:11.52`	`Squeegeez`	`random crap, i use it for any site i don't trust, and therefore it gets a lot of spam`
`14:11.53`	`Muffin_`	`beta will probably be released today 4th of july`
`14:12.02`	`Squeegeez`	`lies`
`14:12.02`	`rrowland`	`or not`
`14:12.05`	`rrowland`	`but most likely not`
`14:12.10`	`Muffin_`	`wat?`
`14:12.16`	`Muffin_`	`hmm`
`14:12.18`	`Helral`	`Squeegeez: think you can make a behavior that allows that.`
`14:12.19`	`Muffin_`	`well see`
`14:12.27`	`Squeegeez`	`how so?`
`14:13.20`	`Helral`	`some sort of share when the unit is near the bunker that shares the load/unload ability, and change ownership when a unit enters and remove the share. change ownership back and add the share on unload...`
`14:13.28`	`Helral`	`would be partially triggers probably.`
`14:14.38`	`Muffin_`	`ok so now i tested the spam bot on anotehr email how do i delete them all?`
`14:14.40`	`Muffin_`	`at once`
`14:14.56`	`rrowland`	`why do you have a spam bot`
`14:15.12`	`Muffin_`	`meh`
`14:15.19`	`Muffin_`	`just because i decided to make one..`
`14:15.21`	`depthsofchaos`	`youll get sued :)`
`14:15.27`	`Squeegeez`	`isn't spamming illegal?`
`14:15.32`	`Muffin_`	`naw..`
`14:15.35`	`Muffin_`	`yeh..`
`14:15.37`	`Muffin_`	`lo`
`14:15.52`	`Muffin_`	`not if you use a proxy duh`
`14:16.08`	`depthsofchaos`	`as if proxy doesnt give out your ip`
`14:16.11`	`depthsofchaos`	`to authority`
`14:16.27`	`Muffin_`	`then i will user over 9000 proxies! :D`
`14:16.39`	`rrowland`	`Just takes longer to trace`
`14:16.45`	`Muffin_`	`rofl`
`14:16.48`	`rrowland`	`Good luck finding over 9000 anonymous proxies`
`14:16.51`	`Muffin_`	`200000?`
`14:16.58`	`Muffin_`	`lol`
`14:20.14`	`Pierro`	`http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4839343/space_pirate_captain_harlock_cg_trailer_taf_2010/`
`14:20.17`	`Pierro`	`drool`
`14:23.13`	`depthsofchaos`	`that was...weird`
`14:23.36`	`Helral`	`hmmmm?`
`14:24.05`	`depthsofchaos`	`the trailer :o`
`14:24.07`	`Pierro`	`Captain Harlock`
`14:24.12`	`Pierro`	`Do you know it ?`
`14:24.19`	`depthsofchaos`	`nope`
`14:24.23`	`Pierro`	`JApanese animated`
`14:24.27`	`Pierro`	`Good one`
`14:24.31`	`Pierro`	`space pirates`
`14:24.34`	`depthsofchaos`	`will this be a space rts?:o`
`14:25.07`	`Pierro`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Harlock`
`14:25.15`	`Pierro`	`a movie this will be`
`14:26.52`	`depthsofchaos`	`well it sure looks cool but pirates with blades n stuff in space?:p`
`14:28.07`	`Pierro`	`they spent all their money on the ship`
`14:28.20`	`Squeegeez`	`yeah not really a fan of anime. Some parts were cool but on the whole: meh`
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`14:29.00`	`depthsofchaos`	`well why does the pirate flag wave in space`
`14:29.04`	`depthsofchaos`	`that bugged me xD`
`14:29.16`	`Pierro`	`that Sir is the Future`
`14:29.22`	`Pierro`	`have you ever been in space ?`
`14:29.24`	`Squeegeez`	`"solar wind"`
`14:29.26`	`Squeegeez`	`=P`
`14:29.33`	`Pierro`	`exactly`
`14:29.37`	`Pierro`	`Solar wind`
`14:31.10`	`MindWorX	`Helral!`
`14:32.18`	`MindWorX	`You should work on wall visibility a bit`
`14:32.30`	`MindWorX	`Also, maybe cut down the amount of "secret" walls`
`14:33.10`	`MindWorX	`Instead of over ninethousand, you might go with i dunno 2-3 tops? Else it's not a secret anymore, then it's just something you'll be looking for all the time`
`14:35.33`	`Helral`	`MindWorX: Later on there will be more doors ;p`
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`14:35.46`	`Helral`	`currently got this many invis walls as door replacements.`
`14:35.47`	`MindWorX	`I sure hope so :P`
`14:36.31`	`MindWorX	`I dunno if you've ever played PnP Dungeons and Dragons, but if there's one thing that kills a dungeon crawl, it is too many hidden things. Makes it so the player has to constantly keep searching`
`14:36.45`	`Helral`	`;p I know that ;p`
`14:36.54`	`MindWorX	`Goood :P`
`14:37.39`	`Helral`	`I'll prolly be restricting it a lot more later on, but for now I'll be using the hidden passageway wall as is ;p`
`14:37.57`	`MindWorX	`Hehe, that's alright`
`14:38.23`	`Helral`	`unless ofcourse you can supply me with a usable wall model ;p`
`14:38.43`	`MindWorX	`That depends`
`14:38.49`	`MindWorX	`I have an artist i use`
`14:38.56`	`MindWorX	`Who does amazing stuff`
`14:39.01`	`MindWorX	`But haven't made anything for sc2 yet`
`14:39.24`	`Helral`	`an artist you abuse?`
`14:39.56`	`depthsofchaos`	`helral how many wall pieces you got?:o`
`14:40.09`	`MindWorX	`I abuse him a lot :P`
`14:40.15`	`MindWorX	`He does whatever i ask him to do`
`14:40.22`	`Helral`	`hmmm wall pieces?`
`14:40.27`	`MindWorX	`Ofcourse, i also pay him every now and then`
`14:40.34`	`Helral`	`I've got 1 wall model.`
`14:40.39`	`depthsofchaos`	`for the dungeon?`
`14:40.42`	`MindWorX	`That current wall piece, how was that made?`
`14:40.46`	`depthsofchaos`	`per dungeon`
`14:40.49`	`Helral`	`ask Skizot ;p`
`14:40.59`	`MindWorX	`Well, it's not animated`
`14:41.06`	`Helral`	`nope it ain't animated.`
`14:41.22`	`Helral`	`the m3 addin for 3dsmax didn't support animations at that time.`
`14:41.29`	`depthsofchaos`	`it does`
`14:41.35`	`Helral`	`it does now.`
`14:41.37`	`MindWorX	`So if you have some dimensions of the model, or if you can somehow convert the current wall to 3ds max or something, i'm sure i could talk him into giving it a go`
`14:41.46`	`depthsofchaos`	`well why would you animate a wal :p`
`14:42.19`	`casperb`	`cause it would look cool? :P`
`14:42.22`	`casperb`	`wall of the wailing dead ;p`
`14:42.31`	`MindWorX	`xD`
`14:42.37`	`MindWorX	`Wall of Souls`
`14:42.40`	`Helral`	`lol`
`14:42.45`	`casperb`	`Wall of Gamers`
`14:42.49`	`casperb`	`err i mean lost souls`
`14:42.51`	`casperb`	`:p`
`14:42.53`	`Helral`	`Wall of failed gamers.`
`14:42.59`	`depthsofchaos`	`the wall is already a cube`
`14:43.01`	`casperb`	`With sound effects`
`14:43.10`	`casperb`	`Noooob... ftw... pwwn.. etc .p`
`14:43.22`	`depthsofchaos`	`gtfo!`
`14:43.28`	`Helral`	`wall of stolen souls ;) each time the map is played the wall gains a number of souls equal to the number of new players ;p`
`14:44.02`	`casperb`	`Hehe impossible tho :(`
`14:44.11`	`Helral`	`black magic ;p`
`14:44.19`	`depthsofchaos`	`you racist`
`14:44.32`	`casperb`	`black is racist?`
`14:44.32`	`Helral`	`well black isn't the correct word to be honest.`
`14:44.36`	`casperb`	`i like orange`
`14:44.42`	`casperb`	`It's a nice strong color`
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`14:44.44`	`Helral`	`it's darker then black muhahaha ;p`
`14:45.02`	`depthsofchaos`	`you fruitiarian`
`14:45.21`	`depthsofchaos`	`or how its spelled :p`
`14:45.22`	`casperb`	`believe the term is fruit cake`
`14:45.32`	`casperb`	`:D`
`14:45.45`	`Helral`	`is wondering who here wants to eat a fruit cake.`
`14:45.52`	`muffin_`	`lol`
`14:45.58`	`muffin_`	`fruitiarian???`
`14:46.07`	`casperb`	`pastafarian!`
`14:46.18`	`muffin_`	`howd you come up with that.. o.o`
`14:46.29`	`casperb`	`Haven't heard of pastafarianism? :P`
`14:46.38`	`depthsofchaos`	`fruitarian -> that word exists`
`14:46.42`	`Helral`	`goes afk watchin some tv.`
`14:47.09`	`MindWorX	`Helral`
`14:47.11`	`MindWorX	`I need the model`
`14:47.16`	`MindWorX	`If you want a door version`
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`14:52.40`	`MindWorX	`HELRAL`
`14:52.44`	`MindWorX	`You stupid person :P`
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`14:55.43`	`Helral`	`hehehe thought you already had it. you can extract it from the map as m3 and import that into 3dsmax using the m3 addon for 3dsmax.`
`14:57.11`	`MindWorX	`Alright`
`14:57.39`	`MindWorX	`He's asking if you know insides from outsides in the corridors and rooms?`
`14:57.59`	`Helral`	`hmmmm I can determine that, yes.`
`14:58.17`	`MindWorX	`He asked because he could make variations`
`14:58.26`	`Helral`	`ahhh ;)`
`14:58.38`	`MindWorX	`With details on the walls on the side that faces the insides`
`14:59.51`	`Helral`	`currently I can even get walls which would better be called pillars. (floor tiles on all sides)`
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`15:08.34`	`Pierro`	`Phaos : New drawing https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1xv598iIqaKCBzSKsYAw9kzhYQEav2v9o2RFKZRwrI9g&hl=fr&authkey=CP78hfkE`
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`15:13.22`	`muffin_`	`anyone want me?`
`15:13.36`	`muffin_`	`anyone want to adopt me?`
`15:13.44`	`muffin_`	`for a project?`
`15:14.01`	`muffin_`	`im free :D`
`15:14.19`	`muffin_`	`...`
`15:14.29`	`muffin_`	`:(`
`15:14.45`	`MindWorX	`YES`
`15:14.55`	`MindWorX	`WHATS YOU EXPERIENCE IN HACKING AND REVERSE ENGINEERING?!`
`15:15.58`	`Helral`	`thinks muffin's trying to hack MindWorX now.`
`15:16.13`	`Aww`	`Hi MindWorX`
`15:16.19`	`MindWorX	`Hi Aww`
`15:16.20`	`Aww`	`Someone tell me that you have a torrent for SC 2 editor`
`15:16.27`	`Aww`	`cuz i reinstalled`
`15:16.38`	`Helral`	`points at MindWorX`
`15:16.39`	`Helral`	`;p`
`15:16.59`	`Aww`	`:)`
`15:17.26`	`MindWorX	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/992656/StarCraft%20II%20Beta.7z.torrent`
`15:17.33`	`MindWorX	`It'll take a while to get tho`
`15:17.36`	`Repo`	`New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zerg-zerg/. Zerg On Zerg. dirty6Pool (Manager/Author). Approved by grum.`
`15:17.40`	`MindWorX	`Something like 12-16 hours or something`
`15:17.52`	`MindWorX	`Unless you have an even slower download than my upload spee`
`15:17.55`	`Aww`	`12. 16 Hours. Ok :o`
`15:18.03`	`Aww`	`IThanks`
`15:18.06`	`MindWorX	`Nps`
`15:18.20`	`MindWorX	`I tihnk muffin_ shortcircuited`
`15:18.43`	`Helral`	`he's prolly looking up what reverse engineering means ;p`
`15:18.48`	`MindWorX	`Haha`
`15:18.59`	`MindWorX	`Speaking of which, i should get back to working on my project`
`15:19.16`	`Helral`	`what is that? reverse engineering the editor?`
`15:19.21`	`MindWorX	`I see someone german downloading off me!`
`15:19.29`	`MindWorX	`Yea`
`15:19.49`	`Aww`	`Wait, my editor will be in english then ? (my game is in french). That's not a problem but i wonder if it will work`
`15:20.04`	`MindWorX	`Dunno`
`15:20.09`	`MindWorX	`It's an enGB version of the game`
`15:20.18`	`Aww`	`We'll see :)`
`15:20.18`	`MindWorX	`The newest patch`
`15:20.42`	`Helral`	`it's the entire gamefolder of your installation, MindWorX?`
`15:20.50`	`MindWorX	`It's the entire game`
`15:20.51`	`MindWorX	`:P`
`15:21.17`	`Helral`	`then everything will be in english for Aww as well. ;p`
`15:21.33`	`MindWorX	`English is awesome anyways`
`15:21.46`	`Helral`	`better then french ;p`
`15:21.55`	`Aww`	`Agree`
`15:21.59`	`MindWorX	`Much better :P`
`15:22.04`	`Aww`	`Agree !`
`15:22.12`	`Aww`	`Can't wait to hear english units voices`
`15:22.13`	`Aww`	`:p`
`15:22.16`	`Helral`	`then wth did you get a french version?`
`15:22.16`	`MindWorX	`xD`
`15:22.25`	`Aww`	`Because i'm BELGIAN`
`15:22.25`	`Aww`	`OOOOAW`
`15:22.41`	`Helral`	`and?`
`15:22.49`	`Aww`	`Er`
`15:22.50`	`Aww`	`erf`
`15:23.06`	`Helral`	`I've gotten the EnGb version even though I'm not British.`
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`15:29.48`	`MindWorX	`Helral, Can you add prespecified rooms?`
`15:30.03`	`MindWorX	`Think Diablo 1, ala the butcher at level 3`
`15:30.31`	`MindWorX	`The rest is generated, while there's a constant "The Butcher" room, which you'll alway encounter on level 3, tho not always the same place`
`15:30.56`	`Helral`	`That is implementable, not implemented yet though.`
`15:31.08`	`MindWorX	`You should consider it`
`15:31.27`	`Helral`	`hehehe ;)`
`15:33.09`	`MindWorX	`Does it support multiplayer?`
`15:33.14`	`Helral`	`yup.`
`15:33.19`	`MindWorX	`Coolio`
`15:33.29`	`Helral`	`although will prolly be laggy atm cause of awsd support.`
`15:33.44`	`Helral`	`never tested it yet for latency.`
`15:33.57`	`MindWorX	`Ah`
`15:34.02`	`MindWorX	`No need for the wasd really`
`15:34.17`	`MindWorX	`Ofc that's entirely up to you`
`15:34.26`	`MindWorX	`My artist likes your project`
`15:34.34`	`Helral`	`wasd is supported but it's not required to be used.`
`15:34.36`	`Helral`	`hehehe`
`15:34.43`	`MindWorX	`You should make a "town" area, where you can teleport and buy stuff`
`15:34.54`	`MindWorX	`Make it a teleport with like... 15min cooldown, but free to use whenever`
`15:35.07`	`Helral`	`currently working on an inventory system.`
`15:35.49`	`MindWorX	`Nice`
`15:36.09`	`Helral`	`which will be more like the Diablo I inventory stuff then the one that is available in sc2.`
`15:36.32`	`MindWorX	`You should also work on "monster rooms" or "monster groups", instead of running into single alone monsters in corridors`
`15:36.57`	`Helral`	`well currently I spawn only single monsters randomly.`
`15:37.05`	`Helral`	`but I've been ganked while testing by 5 zerglings at once.`
`15:37.12`	`MindWorX	`Hehe`
`15:37.26`	`Helral`	`so they do team up if they get the chance ;p`
`15:37.45`	`MindWorX	`Hehe`
`15:38.30`	`Helral`	`I've given the zerglings the wander behavior.`
`15:38.46`	`Helral`	`so even if you stand still they'll come for you.`
`15:41.33`	`Muffin_`	`i need somthing to do..`
`15:41.44`	`Muffin_`	`im a graphical artist and 3d designer..`
`15:41.48`	`Muffin_`	`give me somthing..`
`15:41.59`	`MindWorX	`Pft`
`15:41.59`	`Helral`	`well create me a door to use then for my dungeon map ;p`
`15:42.05`	`Muffin_`	`ok`
`15:42.11`	`Muffin_`	`umm`
`15:42.13`	`Muffin_`	`explain?`
`15:42.22`	`Helral`	`;p`
`15:42.29`	`Muffin_`	`what kind of door?`
`15:42.35`	`Muffin_`	`what ratio?`
`15:42.41`	`Helral`	`hmmm let's see goes off to google for a door`
`15:43.51`	`Muffin_`	`trapdoor ? Blast-proof door? a doggy door?`
`15:43.54`	`Helral`	`http://www.emntattoo.com/images/door.jpg hmmm something like that, with an open/close animation. and uhm ratio is the same as the wall in my map.`
`15:44.24`	`Muffin_`	`and which wall is that?`
`15:44.26`	`Helral`	`See TempleWall.m3 in the import stuff of my map ;p`
`15:44.26`	`Muffin_`	`wich doodad?`
`15:44.47`	`Muffin_`	`is that custom or is it in the doodads?`
`15:44.54`	`Helral`	`custom ;p`
`15:45.13`	`Muffin_`	`k will post it tomorrow..`
`15:46.19`	`Helral`	`goes off to implement the first static room design for implementation at a random location in the dungeon.`
`15:46.38`	`MindWorX	`Good boy`
`15:46.50`	`Helral`	`meows`
`15:46.59`	`Muffin_`	`...`
`15:47.01`	`Helral`	`on the other hand.`
`15:47.09`	`Helral`	`I'll go finish the inventory system first.`
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`15:47.45`	`MindWorX	`No`
`15:47.49`	`MindWorX	`Static room!`
`15:48.23`	`Helral`	`lol`
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`15:50.02`	`casperb`	`Helral: 50$ and i'll do it :P`
`15:51.00`	`Helral`	`casperb: too expensive ;p`
`15:51.07`	`casperb`	`That's cheap!`
`15:51.11`	`Helral`	`I'm without a job atm so I got plenty of time to do it myself ;p`
`15:51.55`	`Helral`	`the trigger stuff ;p`
`15:52.08`	`casperb`	`was talking models ;)`
`15:52.19`	`Helral`	`hmmm`
`15:53.29`	`casperb`	`Dungeon door, with open/close morph is all you need?`
`15:54.12`	`Helral`	`well it's the only thing that would be really needed atm. ;p you can compete with muffin if you want to ;p`
`15:54.30`	`casperb`	`ah then nah i'm to busy :p`
`15:54.36`	`Helral`	`hehehe`
`15:54.51`	`casperb`	`need to work on my own map, haven't done anything in weeks o.o`
`15:55.08`	`Helral`	`^^`
`15:56.17`	`casperb`	`got to annoyed by an editor bug http://i.imgur.com/HKOQW.jpg :S`
`15:57.03`	`Muffin_`	`helral`
`15:57.08`	`Muffin_`	`how does an arch sound?`
`15:57.19`	`Muffin_`	`i mean arc`
`15:57.32`	`casperb`	`are already archway assets`
`15:57.36`	`casperb`	`arc*`
`15:57.37`	`Muffin_`	`hmm thinking for the word`
`15:57.53`	`casperb`	`Gothic style arc?`
`15:58.22`	`Helral`	`a door fitting to be in a dungeon is good. ;p`
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`16:20.18`	`wOlfLinG`	`How would i add a 'save' function to a map that saves each heros total XP and items?`
`16:28.33`	`MindWorX	`Magic`
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`16:31.27`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Phaos`
`16:44.57`	`depthsofchaos`	`wolf, using banks but youll have to encode your data`
`16:45.02`	`depthsofchaos`	`cause it can be just edited`
`16:45.37`	`casperb`	`nah don't bother encoding`
`16:45.49`	`casperb`	`not net-safe regardless so single player use only`
`16:46.05`	`casperb`	`besides, if he's asking how to do a save i doubt he'd be able to`
`16:46.41`	`depthsofchaos`	`well it will be semi safe once map protection will work`
`16:46.50`	`casperb`	`nah only for co-op maps`
`16:47.17`	`depthsofchaos`	`why`
`16:47.41`	`casperb`	`cheating in a competitive game is bad`
`16:47.45`	`depthsofchaos`	`if they plan selling maps they better give really good protection :o`
`16:48.38`	`casperb`	`they should offer us devs cloud hosting! -.-`
`16:49.07`	`casperb`	`they have it and use it, just not available :(`
`16:49.37`	`depthsofchaos`	`cloud hosting?:o`
`16:49.44`	`casperb`	`yeh, banks in the cloud`
`16:50.23`	`depthsofchaos`	`ah ye that wouldnt be hard but thed have to store every players data`
`16:50.28`	`depthsofchaos`	`for 1 map`
`16:50.46`	`depthsofchaos`	`that would be lot of gigabytes`
`16:51.03`	`casperb`	`not really`
`16:51.17`	`casperb`	`i.e a top score list, a few bytes`
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`16:51.36`	`Muffin_`	`yummmm`
`16:51.39`	`casperb`	`a gb of data is around 1cent so`
`16:51.52`	`Muffin_`	`apple on a scewer :D`
`16:52.01`	`casperb`	`Muffin on a fire`
`16:52.18`	`depthsofchaos`	`1 cent loss for activision blizzard is considered failiure :p`
`16:52.46`	`Muffin_`	`avtivision..`
`16:52.48`	`Muffin_`	`fuck`
`16:52.56`	`wOlfLinG`	`I found a tutorial map on it. Not really understanding it right now, but ill get there :)`
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`16:55.55`	`TheLaughingMan`	`http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx46/7H3LaughingMan/Merlin_Special.png`
`16:57.15`	`depthsofchaos`	`looks like bobba fatts space ship =cool`
`16:58.07`	`Muffin_`	`thats for?`
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`17:06.07`	`TheLaughingMan`	`http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx46/7H3LaughingMan/Merlin-1.png`
`17:07.38`	`MindWorX	`The Merlin from EVE`
`17:07.48`	`MindWorX	`Making a model for sc2?`
`17:08.21`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Somewhat`
`17:11.24`	`TheLaughingMan`	`So`
`17:11.32`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I am going to say the Beta is going to come back on Tuesday`
`17:12.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`my guess too`
`17:13.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`tuesday should be renamed blizzard day`
`17:13.17`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`everything happens on tuesday`
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`17:15.38`	`RoarMan`	`HALLO HALLO!`
`17:16.16`	`Pierro`	`I have 58 Items`
`17:16.29`	`RoarMan`	`Fo' yo' map Pierro?`
`17:16.51`	`Pierro`	`yup`
`17:16.54`	`RoarMan`	`:D`
`17:16.55`	`Pierro`	`25 goods`
`17:16.57`	`RoarMan`	`I'm psychiecs.`
`17:17.00`	`Pierro`	`5 weapon`
`17:17.17`	`RoarMan`	`What kind of map is it?`
`17:17.17`	`Pierro`	`20 Unit creation`
`17:17.21`	`Pierro`	`hmm`
`17:17.27`	`RoarMan`	`Eesh that's a lot of data editing :P`
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`17:17.35`	`Pierro`	`Kinda SCV dungeon keeper survival the sims`
`17:17.39`	`wOlfLinG`	`right, could anyone be kind enough to add in a save/ load function for my map? ^^`
`17:17.42`	`Pierro`	`scv fortress`
`17:17.43`	`RoarMan`	`Oh that's sick.`
`17:17.49`	`RoarMan`	`Dungeon Keeper is sick :P`
`17:18.12`	`RoarMan`	`Wolflin I can link you a guide..`
`17:18.27`	`RoarMan`	`It's for Wc3 but you can just use it for Sc2, shouldn't be a problem.`
`17:18.38`	`wOlfLinG`	`Written or video?`
`17:18.44`	`RoarMan`	`Written.`
`17:18.45`	`Pierro`	`https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1xv598iIqaKCBzSKsYAw9kzhYQEav2v9o2RFKZRwrI9g&hl=fr&authkey=CP78hfkE`
`17:18.55`	`RoarMan`	`www.thehelper.net as a ton of guides on Map Edititing.`
`17:18.55`	`Pierro`	`here is a doc of the building system`
`17:19.25`	`RoarMan`	`Are you gonna have units come chill at your crib like in Dungeon Keepr? :D`
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`17:19.56`	`Pierro`	`what do you mean ?`
`17:20.18`	`RoarMan`	`You know how in Dungeon Keeper, units are attracted to your dungeon.`
`17:20.21`	`RoarMan`	`And they fight for you.`
`17:20.27`	`RoarMan`	`In Dungeon Keeper 2 atleast :P`
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`17:20.32`	`RoarMan`	`Hai Alpha_vst!`
`17:21.14`	`Alpha_vst`	`hi`
`17:21.14`	`Pierro`	`I have some automated basic behavior`
`17:21.14`	`Muffin_`	`.`
`17:21.14`	`Pierro`	`like auto harvesting`
`17:21.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`morn`
`17:21.22`	`RodOfNOD`	`i am the muffin man the muffin man i am the muffin man!`
`17:21.26`	`RoarMan`	`HI RODOFNOD`
`17:21.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`ROAR!`
`17:21.44`	`Muffin_`	`arg..`
`17:21.52`	`RoarMan`	`Pierro not exactly the homies chilling at your crib but I'm still gonna look forward to your map :P`
`17:21.57`	`RoarMan`	`Hai Muffin_!`
`17:23.18`	`Muffin_`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMOd8WADZZM`
`17:30.00`	`casperb`	`Do you know the muffin man, muffin man, muffin man`
`17:30.02`	`casperb`	`I hate you`
`17:30.12`	`casperb`	`Damn song got stuck in my head`
`17:30.16`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol`
`17:30.21`	`RodOfNOD`	`sorry me too :P`
`17:30.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`thought i wouyld share the pain`
`17:30.32`	`Muffin_`	`now its stuck in my head..`
`17:30.45`	`casperb`	`Have you heard?`
`17:30.46`	`Muffin_`	`listen to this it will ease the pain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_z6zyAe98M&feature=fvw`
`17:31.03`	`casperb`	`Has anyone heard?`
`17:31.16`	`RodOfNOD`	`when i listen i hear?`
`17:31.23`	`casperb`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZThquH5t0ow`
`17:31.37`	`Muffin_`	`o gawd`
`17:31.55`	`Muffin_`	`lawd`
`17:33.22`	`TheLaughingMan`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTwJetox_tU`
`17:46.30`	`Muffin_`	`HORY SHIT BETA WORKING NOW!`
`17:46.56`	`Muffin_`	`WHOA IT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER`
`17:47.29`	`wOlfLinG`	`yeah, its not`
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`17:49.57`	`Muffin_`	`lol`
`17:50.10`	`Muffin_`	`aha i got you!`
`17:50.11`	`Muffin_`	`...`
`17:50.12`	`Muffin_`	`?`
`17:50.14`	`Muffin_`	`lol`
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`17:52.01`	`casperb`	`What are you talking about? battle net is up :p`
`17:52.18`	`MindWorX	`Anyone mind taking a look here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/workswithminds`
`17:52.21`	`MindWorX	`And tell me what they see?`
`17:52.28`	`IcE^`	`casperb: hell, its 'bout time ;)`
`17:52.29`	`MindWorX	`If they see anything :P`
`17:52.46`	`casperb`	`visual studio`
`17:52.49`	`wOlfLinG`	`What the O_o Just checked and it IS up. Uploading the beta of my map now :D`
`17:52.51`	`MindWorX	`Is the text readable?`
`17:52.58`	`casperb`	`nope`
`17:53.01`	`casperb`	`very very low quality`
`17:53.11`	`casperb`	`wouldn't even see it was visual studio if i haven't lived in it`
`17:53.18`	`MindWorX	`That sucks`
`17:53.48`	`MindWorX	`Know something better for broadcasting that's free and has readable text?`
`17:53.53`	`casperb`	`livestream`
`17:55.09`	`casperb`	`can be as high res as you can handle`
`17:55.27`	`MindWorX	`For free?`
`17:55.44`	`casperb`	`yep`
`17:56.12`	`casperb`	`paid acc only increases number of viewers you can have i think`
`17:56.18`	`casperb`	`but it's not like you'll get 200 overnight :p`
`17:56.31`	`MindWorX	`That doesn't matter`
`17:56.37`	`MindWorX	`I don't think i'll have many viewers`
`17:56.43`	`MindWorX	`Just toying around`
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`17:57.30`	`RedWraith`	`hey losers`
`17:57.35`	`RedWraith`	`How's it going? :)`
`18:01.02`	`RedWraith`	`Anyone else feels like today's news on sc2mapster feels like a blast from the past?`
`18:01.22`	`Muffin_`	`wut news..`
`18:02.27`	`Muffin_`	`somone link me some good shit im bored..`
`18:03.15`	`RedWraith`	`Muffin, this is why I have so little respect for you.`
`18:03.30`	`RedWraith`	`Also that the Muffin is the lowest of the common pastries.`
`18:03.44`	`RedWraith`	`With the exception of the Bear Claw, of course.`
`18:04.05`	`RedWraith`	`but that is borderline uncommon`
`18:04.07`	`RedWraith`	`you see.`
`18:05.46`	`Muffin_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:06.19`	`Muffin_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:06.43`	`RedWraith`	`Croissants, on the other hand, are a pastry had by the greatest among us.`
`18:08.03`	`Phaos`	`Beta Beta Beta Beta Beta Beta Beta Beta Beta Beta Beta Beta Beta Beta`
`18:09.06`	`RedWraith`	`Phaos ???`
`18:09.26`	`Phaos`	`Nothing`
`18:09.29`	`Phaos`	`I jsut want it`
`18:09.32`	`Phaos`	`real bad`
`18:10.09`	`RedWraith`	`:[`
`18:10.13`	`RedWraith`	`Stop disappointing me!`
`18:10.58`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`18:12.28`	`Pierro`	`http://tof.canardpc.com/view/bb9129e0-9561-4ad1-83bb-4d5d00580b71.jpg My conceptual building system (Used for scaling purpose)`
`18:13.29`	`Pierro`	`http://tof.canardpc.com/view/b4327b58-73f7-43cc-9ac8-aad4d93136f3.jpg My SCV digging his first room`
`18:14.31`	`RedWraith`	`mmm`
`18:14.33`	`RedWraith`	`I like it!`
`18:14.48`	`Pierro`	`http://tof.canardpc.com/view/f2aa45a6-503e-420d-8bb4-54b4f250129a.jpg and the last one`
`18:14.56`	`Pierro`	`here is the designator`
`18:15.06`	`Pierro`	`the effect of designating building location`
`18:15.50`	`Pierro`	`and voil`
`18:15.52`	`Pierro`	`voila`
`18:16.34`	`Pierro`	`this will feature a goods based fabrication`
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`18:17.27`	`Pierro`	`for instance a rocket turret will require you to build a turret frame, a rocket launcher. those part require to be crafted aswell with different goods`
`18:18.22`	`lotharscm`	`so I have an ability with multiple levels, with separate effects, butttons for each level etc, the buttons are switching out properly but when I go to cast the spell, levels above 1 wont let me cast.. i can click the button and try to target it but when i go to cast it doesnt do anything... anyone have an idea of what i forgot lol?`
`18:19.05`	`Helral`	`did you set the effects for the other levels?`
`18:19.18`	`Pierro`	`A bed require a metal bar (which is crafted with Raw Ore) a plastic Unit (Created from plant at the Chemical facility) and a Chip (Created at the electronic workshop)`
`18:19.58`	`lotharscm`	`yeah they have effects`
`18:20.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`A chip to make a bed?`
`18:20.22`	`Pierro`	`we are in future dude`
`18:20.27`	`Pierro`	`hell yes`
`18:20.43`	`allenmelon`	`beta up yet?`
`18:20.54`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Check back on Tuesday`
`18:21.00`	`Helral`	`lotharscm: and the buttons are correctly connected to the abilities?`
`18:21.05`	`allenmelon`	`why, is that the rumored date?`
`18:21.42`	`TheLaughingMan`	`There a post by blues on other language forums mentioning that date and how to register for it on monday`
`18:22.11`	`lotharscm`	`Helral yeah each ability has its own button/effect/requirement`
`18:22.13`	`allenmelon`	`ok`
`18:22.24`	`Helral`	`hmmmmm`
`18:24.30`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`has anyone been able to make moving dialog boxes yet`
`18:24.41`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`like, the actual dialog moves around the screen`
`18:25.04`	`Helral`	`use the move Dialog action?`
`18:25.15`	`Helral`	`or how did you mean?`
`18:26.31`	`Alpha_vst`	`move dialog works right?`
`18:27.02`	`RedWraith`	`How do you get water to actually look different in the editor?`
`18:27.10`	`RedWraith`	`Edit Water doesn't seem to do anything to its appearance`
`18:27.20`	`RedWraith`	`wait`
`18:27.20`	`RedWraith`	`nm`
`18:27.22`	`RedWraith`	`now it does`
`18:27.24`	`RedWraith`	`weird...`
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`18:28.39`	`Ashamed`	`Rodofnod you there?`
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`18:40.07`	`RedWraith`	`Is there some way to select via cropping or anything like that?`
`18:40.16`	`RedWraith`	`I'd like to mirror a map on something other than a vertical line lol`
`18:41.34`	`casperb`	`GE selection = horrible`
`18:42.23`	`casperb`	`And water appearance is a mix between reflection maps etc`
`18:43.50`	`casperb`	`anyways your best bet is just copy all, expand map size then paste mirrored`
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`19:01.39`	`wOlfLinG`	`How do i modify a weapon damage via triggers?`
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`19:07.13`	`wOlfLinG`	`The only other thing i can see is 'Make unit deal Mega damage' which quadruples it :/`
`19:07.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`what exactly do u want to do`
`19:10.03`	`Alpha_vst`	`you have to give it a new weapon or give it a behavior mod that adds damage`
`19:14.03`	`Demonette`	`Can i somehow remove a stand animation? oO`
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`19:20.20`	`Jcup`	`Heyooo`
`19:20.25`	`Lilianna`	`hiya`
`19:28.03`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Lilianna, where is your buddy?`
`19:28.15`	`Lilianna`	`my buddy?`
`19:28.34`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Prozaic`
`19:28.42`	`Lilianna`	`I have no idea`
`19:28.56`	`TheLaughingMan`	`~seen ProzaicMuze`
`19:28.57`	`purl`	`prozaicmuze <~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 19h 7m 20s ago, saying: 'peace alls'.`
`19:29.21`	`Lilianna`	`Maybe doing 4th of july stuffs?`
`19:29.40`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Oh yea it is 4th of July`
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`19:30.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`The best day of all`
`19:30.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`The day with the least american activity`
`19:30.44`	`Lilianna`	`and the most legal explosions?`
`19:31.10`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Well if you get a license it isn't`
`19:32.31`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol its pretty much illegal to do any kind of fireworks now 0.o`
`19:33.02`	`Lilianna`	`c.c I really meant all the fireworks shows legally blowing up the sky. c.c`
`19:33.07`	`slightlyrandom`	`It is a pretty silly thing to do, anyway`
`19:33.17`	`wOlfLinG`	`Why is 4th july a holiday btw?`
`19:33.20`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`19:33.26`	`Lilianna`	`history!`
`19:33.36`	`wOlfLinG`	`We don't do american history in the UK`
`19:33.38`	`Alpha_vst`	`where are you from wOlfLinG`
`19:33.41`	`Alpha_vst`	`LOL`
`19:33.42`	`Lilianna`	`xD`
`19:33.47`	`wOlfLinG`	`All i know is you lot had a civil war sometime xD`
`19:33.57`	`Lilianna`	`July 4th is the celebration of the US gaining independence from Britan`
`19:34.08`	`wOlfLinG`	`Im from lil' old England :D`
`19:34.21`	`TheLaughingMan`	`That should be in the History of UK`
`19:34.24`	`wOlfLinG`	`Wait, why do you celebrate it then? :D`
`19:34.36`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol it should be`
`19:34.39`	`Lilianna`	`:p`
`19:34.39`	`Pierro`	`https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1xv598iIqaKCBzSKsYAw9kzhYQEav2v9o2RFKZRwrI9g&hl=fr&authkey=CP78hfkE`
`19:34.40`	`wOlfLinG`	`That was the worst thing you ever did, admit it ^^`
`19:34.43`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Cause it's our nation's birthday`
`19:34.46`	`Pierro`	`miss`
`19:34.58`	`TheLaughingMan`	`wOlfLinG, the worst thing we did was 9/11!`
`19:35.00`	`wOlfLinG`	`But being part of an empire is better`
`19:35.10`	`Lilianna`	`lol`
`19:35.33`	`casperb`	`Nah it's because it's the day before my birthday`
`19:35.33`	`wOlfLinG`	`9/11 wouldn't have happened if you were part of the british empire :D`
`19:35.44`	`wOlfLinG`	`Or at least, not in your country`
`19:35.45`	`Alpha_vst`	`...`
`19:35.55`	`wOlfLinG`	`It would also be 11/9`
`19:35.59`	`wOlfLinG`	`^^`
`19:36.17`	`Alpha_vst`	`why would it of happened 2 months later?`
`19:36.24`	`Lilianna`	`lol`
`19:36.24`	`Alpha_vst`	`your a idiot`
`19:36.41`	`wOlfLinG`	`11/9 is the proper way of saying 9/11 :D`
`19:36.53`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Not here it isn't`
`19:36.56`	`wOlfLinG`	`I mean, nothing happened on the 11th november right?`
`19:37.08`	`wOlfLinG`	`Therefor, you sez it wrongz`
`19:37.11`	`Alpha_vst`	`11th november?`
`19:37.21`	`Alpha_vst`	`how does that even come out sounding right`
`19:37.21`	`Lilianna`	`Your all funny. :)`
`19:37.52`	`TheLaughingMan`	`wOlfLinG, in America we do Month,Day,Year`
`19:37.58`	`wOlfLinG`	`Stupid americans :D`
`19:37.58`	`Alpha_vst`	`no wonder we got away from those fuck tards`
`19:38.02`	`casperb`	`Who cares what americans do`
`19:38.06`	`Lilianna`	`the logic is in the size of the increment, Days are the smallest, theres the most, then comes Months, then Years. It makes alot of sense, but America does it weird. c.c`
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`19:38.20`	`casperb`	`In the rest of the world we have other standards :p`
`19:38.37`	`TheLaughingMan`	`It is the shorten version of the longer version`
`19:38.44`	`wOlfLinG`	`There is some form of 'Official' date/ time thing, which is something like years/ days/ months, but no-one uses that`
`19:39.05`	`TheLaughingMan`	`September 11th, 2001`
`19:39.09`	`wOlfLinG`	`Well, its what the Un uses i think`
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`19:39.18`	`casperb`	`Standard timeformat is dd/mm/yy :p`
`19:39.21`	`wOlfLinG`	`Oh, plus, time is measured in the UK :D`
`19:39.30`	`casperb`	`ISO standards ftw!`
`19:39.41`	`slightlyrandom`	`9th of November, 2001`
`19:39.42`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Well America isn't ISO Standard`
`19:39.44`	`wOlfLinG`	`We haz teh most accuratz clock in teh worldz`
`19:39.51`	`wOlfLinG`	`And yes, you are`
`19:39.54`	`casperb`	`nah america has ANSI standards -.-`
`19:40.03`	`wOlfLinG`	`NASA and CIA etc use that clock for comparing`
`19:40.22`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Which is what less then 1%`
`19:40.24`	`wOlfLinG`	`ANSI uses our clock ^^`
`19:40.24`	`Lilianna`	`I thought it was the sweedish that had the most accuracte clocks in the world?`
`19:40.33`	`onetwo`	`my clock is bigger than yours`
`19:40.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`To be perfectly honest, I am not sure Britain is much better off than America`
`19:40.40`	`wOlfLinG`	`Doesn't matter. Ours is better :D`
`19:40.51`	`onetwo`	`yeah but we know how to use our clocks best`
`19:40.52`	`onetwo`	`and theyre bigger`
`19:40.54`	`Lilianna`	`Our clock has a little dancing girl on it, its better!`
`19:40.56`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Canada is better`
`19:41.03`	`Lilianna`	`The moon is better.`
`19:41.11`	`Alpha_vst`	`sex is the best`
`19:41.16`	`TheLaughingMan`	`well to be more specific Alberta, Canada`
`19:41.18`	`slightlyrandom`	`Fuck no`
`19:41.24`	`onetwo`	`no, british columbia`
`19:41.28`	`TheLaughingMan`	`A whole area that is 99.99% rat free`
`19:41.32`	`onetwo`	`when albertans come here they like switch 3 lanes at the last second`
`19:41.34`	`onetwo`	`drive really slow`
`19:41.35`	`onetwo`	`its scary`
`19:41.40`	`onetwo`	`atleast washingtoners only drive slow`
`19:41.45`	`onetwo`	`they arent as insane`
`19:41.56`	`TheLaughingMan`	`onetwo, you should see how us Texans drive`
`19:42.02`	`casperb`	`Do you have roads in america? .p`
`19:42.02`	`onetwo`	`lol`
`19:42.03`	`casperb`	`:P *`
`19:42.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yeah casperb`
`19:42.11`	`TheLaughingMan`	`We drive without blinkers!`
`19:42.20`	`casperb`	`Friends tell me it all like 8 lane highways :p`
`19:42.21`	`slightlyrandom`	`They cleared some dirt of shrubs`
`19:42.22`	`Lilianna`	`We have flying cars or something!`
`19:42.25`	`onetwo`	`i have proof of washingtoners too`
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`19:42.30`	`onetwo`	`one of Husky's videos`
`19:42.32`	`onetwo`	`he complained about one`
`19:42.35`	`Lilianna`	`casperb, only 2 lanes where I live. :x`
`19:42.37`	`onetwo`	`cause hes in oregan above washington`
`19:42.41`	`onetwo`	`and i live in vancouver above it`
`19:42.43`	`onetwo`	`so we know the pain`
`19:42.44`	`Lilianna`	`even LA isn't all 8 lane highways`
`19:42.44`	`onetwo`	`haha`
`19:42.45`	`Vulfe`	`Hi!`
`19:42.52`	`Vulfe`	`This college internet is pretty sick`
`19:42.52`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Name 1 other province/state/country that is 99.99% rat free`
`19:42.54`	`Lilianna`	`if they did, they might not have a traffic problem. :o`
`19:43.02`	`slightlyrandom`	`TheLaughingMan: Any of them ?`
`19:43.03`	`onetwo`	`Antarctica`
`19:43.18`	`TheLaughingMan`	`That isn't a Country`
`19:43.20`	`TheLaughingMan`	`or a State`
`19:43.21`	`Vulfe`	`99.99% by what? ground area? that's most places :O`
`19:43.23`	`TheLaughingMan`	`or a Province`
`19:43.26`	`onetwo`	`northern canada`
`19:43.27`	`onetwo`	`in arctic`
`19:43.28`	`slightlyrandom`	`Biomass`
`19:43.29`	`onetwo`	`Nunavat`
`19:43.31`	`onetwo`	`lol?`
`19:43.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`Every state, too`
`19:43.44`	`Vulfe`	`lolz`
`19:43.48`	`TheLaughingMan`	`They actually have rats up there`
`19:43.54`	`slightlyrandom`	`The only place that isn't 99.99% rat free is a rat`
`19:44.02`	`onetwo`	`goes and does research for months to simply beat theLaughingMan`
`19:44.08`	`Vulfe`	`I'm hoping that the other guy from this dorm room never shows up >.> <.<`
`19:44.16`	`slightlyrandom`	`He's a hot girl`
`19:44.18`	`slightlyrandom`	`So it'll be alright`
`19:44.22`	`onetwo`	`just like your fiance at your wedding Vulfe?`
`19:44.24`	`onetwo`	`ZINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG`
`19:44.28`	`Vulfe`	`lol.`
`19:44.32`	`Vulfe`	`17 is a bit young`
`19:44.34`	`wOlfLinG`	`lol`
`19:44.35`	`Vulfe`	`imo`
`19:44.40`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Alberta actually has a kill on site law or rats, and it is illegal to import/export rats or to own one`
`19:44.41`	`onetwo`	`yeah but they do crazy stuff in the US`
`19:44.44`	`onetwo`	`from what i hear`
`19:44.45`	`casperb`	`The State Of Earth Mantle or Core!`
`19:44.53`	`casperb`	`Only crab people there`
`19:44.54`	`Vulfe`	`Anyway.`
`19:45.01`	`onetwo`	`alberta annoys me cause their tax is so low`
`19:45.04`	`onetwo`	`i think cause of their economy`
`19:45.05`	`onetwo`	`is so good`
`19:45.07`	`Vulfe`	`Yale has fast internets, even though you have to register your mac address just to use it`
`19:45.09`	`Vulfe`	`what a pain`
`19:45.17`	`slightlyrandom`	`Heh`
`19:45.18`	`onetwo`	`meh thats good`
`19:45.19`	`Vulfe`	`douchebags...`
`19:45.20`	`TheLaughingMan`	`My internet is the best!`
`19:45.29`	`Vulfe`	`I her TLM owns the internet`
`19:45.29`	`onetwo`	`i know one of my friends would take advantage of internet at ubc`
`19:45.30`	`Vulfe`	`true?`
`19:45.30`	`onetwo`	`here`
`19:45.32`	`TheLaughingMan`	`24mbps of pure fiber`
`19:45.38`	`slightlyrandom`	`Any where that doesnt allow a random mac adress every 30 odd seconds loses`
`19:45.41`	`onetwo`	`tlm = the little one's mother?`
`19:45.42`	`Vulfe`	`I'm getting 80 Mb/s download`
`19:45.56`	*** join/#sc2mapster `MindWorX (~Nikolaj.M@93.166.203.126)
`19:46.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Using what?`
`19:46.18`	`Vulfe`	`idk`
`19:46.20`	`Vulfe`	`I haven't asked`
`19:46.25`	`slightlyrandom`	`A computer`
`19:46.30`	`Vulfe`	`well`
`19:46.30`	`Vulfe`	`yes`
`19:46.31`	`Vulfe`	`a computer`
`19:46.38`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Last I checked no ISP provides that speed`
`19:46.41`	`slightlyrandom`	`It's that magic box you're sitting in front of`
`19:46.43`	`casperb`	`From where?`
`19:46.50`	`Vulfe`	`Y.a.l.e.`
`19:46.57`	`casperb`	`What service delivers 8mb dl speed? :p`
`19:47.01`	`casperb`	`80*`
`19:47.05`	`Vulfe`	`not 80 MB/s`
`19:47.07`	`Vulfe`	`80 Mb/s`
`19:47.10`	`onetwo`	`universities have really fast internet`
`19:47.15`	`onetwo`	`but once you go out`
`19:47.20`	`onetwo`	`it gets slower`
`19:47.22`	`onetwo`	`but still really fast`
`19:47.25`	`onetwo`	`if destination is fast too`
`19:47.31`	`Vulfe`	`Time to have a lan party with japan`
`19:47.32`	`Vulfe`	`brb`
`19:47.41`	`onetwo`	`its ridiculous how slow our cable is`
`19:47.41`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Hmm`
`19:47.42`	`onetwo`	`in comparison`
`19:47.58`	`Vulfe`	`Time to update my iPhone firmware`
`19:48.01`	`MindWorX	`I can get a 1/1gbit connection`
`19:48.12`	`Vulfe`	`every time I do this, steve jobs gets more powerful`
`19:48.19`	`MindWorX	`It's pricey`
`19:48.19`	`slightlyrandom`	`Good`
`19:48.21`	`MindWorX	`But i can`
`19:48.27`	`onetwo`	`http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Internet/Warp/`
`19:48.29`	`onetwo`	`thats fastest in vancouver`
`19:48.30`	`onetwo`	`that i know of`
`19:48.31`	`onetwo`	`in my area`
`19:48.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`Soon he will rule the world, as was foretold in the ancient prophecies`
`19:48.37`	`TheLaughingMan`	`MindWorX, how old is your computer?
`19:48.40`	`slightlyrandom`	`And all shall be good`
`19:48.43`	`MindWorX	`For a end user like me a 100/100mbit is more realistic`
`19:48.56`	`MindWorX	`TheLaughingMan, Huh? I dunno, about 2-3 years i think`
`19:49.02`	`slightlyrandom`	`100mbit internet is pretty much standard in most of sweden`
`19:49.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`The parts that arent incredibly backwaters, anyawy`
`19:49.12`	`Vulfe`	`damn you`
`19:49.13`	`Vulfe`	`sweden`
`19:49.22`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Then you can't use go above 100mbit`
`19:49.24`	`slightlyrandom`	`The rest of the place only get 10mbit`
`19:49.30`	`casperb`	`max i can get is like 40 mb/s, for 150 usd a month :S`
`19:49.40`	`onetwo`	`yeah`
`19:49.48`	`MindWorX	`TheLaughingMan, Huh? Why not? :P`
`19:50.02`	`Vulfe`	`yeah`
`19:50.03`	`slightlyrandom`	`He thinks your Netcard is too slow`
`19:50.06`	`Vulfe`	`100 millibits is really low`
`19:50.08`	`Vulfe`	`;P`
`19:50.11`	`MindWorX	`TheLaughingMan, You saying old computers can't have 1gbit lancards?`
`19:50.22`	`onetwo`	`afk`
`19:50.25`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yeah, those things are EXPENSIVE`
`19:50.31`	`slightlyrandom`	`Like, 10â¬`
`19:50.32`	`MindWorX	`Right`
`19:50.37`	`TheLaughingMan`	`It would take and upgraded lancard, special modem, special router`
`19:50.43`	`MindWorX	`It's not like they're on all newer motherboards by standard :P`
`19:51.02`	`casperb`	`uhm, they aren't? :p`
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`19:51.13`	`RedWraith`	`guys`
`19:51.14`	`RedWraith`	`let's say`
`19:51.16`	`MindWorX	`All mb's i've looked at had onboard 1gbit :P`
`19:51.18`	`RedWraith`	`I want to make a map`
`19:51.21`	`slightlyrandom`	`My computer is a couple of years old, I have 1gbit onboard`
`19:51.24`	`RedWraith`	`that produces`
`19:51.25`	`MindWorX	`I say don't make a map`
`19:51.30`	`RedWraith`	`skyscrapers and roads`
`19:51.32`	`RedWraith`	`dynamically`
`19:51.36`	`TheLaughingMan`	`RedWraith, maps don't produce`
`19:51.38`	`RedWraith`	`How would I go about spawning these?`
`19:51.50`	`casperb`	`Define skyscraper`
`19:51.52`	`slightlyrandom`	`Make some roads, then fill in the blanks`
`19:52.02`	`Reves`	`Getting strange version error today when opening SC2, anyone know if this is a sign that the beta is nearing its 2nd opening`
`19:52.04`	`MindWorX	`define "map" ?`
`19:52.06`	`TheLaughingMan`	`RedWraith, maps only consume`
`19:52.09`	`RedWraith`	`dynamic`
`19:52.10`	`RedWraith`	`:p`
`19:52.13`	`casperb`	`Ah procedural city generation?`
`19:52.16`	`RedWraith`	`Yes.`
`19:52.16`	`casperb`	`That's fun to do :D`
`19:52.18`	`RedWraith`	`Yes.`
`19:52.29`	`Vulfe`	`yay`
`19:52.30`	`RedWraith`	`Do I have to make units based on all the doodads?`
`19:52.31`	`casperb`	`Hard tiles are just actors i think`
`19:52.33`	`RedWraith`	`Would annoy me endlessly.`
`19:52.36`	`Vulfe`	`randomization based on predictable algorithms`
`19:52.40`	`slightlyrandom`	`You can spawn doodads`
`19:52.40`	`Vulfe`	`yay`
`19:52.45`	`RedWraith`	`ORLY?`
`19:52.47`	`Vulfe`	`you just can't move them`
`19:52.48`	`slightlyrandom`	`CreateActoAtLocation ?`
`19:52.51`	`Vulfe`	`it's a pain`
`19:52.52`	`RedWraith`	`with footprints and all?`
`19:52.58`	`slightlyrandom`	`Hm`
`19:53.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`Spawn a path blocker underneath em :P`
`19:53.16`	`casperb`	`One issue tho!`
`19:53.17`	`slightlyrandom`	`(If they dont come with one)`
`19:53.19`	`RedWraith`	`This isn't going to lag people out, is it?`
`19:53.19`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`19:53.19`	`RedWraith`	`:P`
`19:53.22`	`casperb`	`The pathing function sare broken`
`19:53.26`	`casperb`	`functions are*`
`19:53.27`	`Vulfe`	`spawning a path blocker`
`19:53.31`	`Vulfe`	`sounds like a really bad idea`
`19:53.39`	`casperb`	`Only option atm`
`19:53.44`	`RedWraith`	`mmmm`
`19:53.47`	`casperb`	`Pathing API == Broken`
`19:53.52`	`Vulfe`	`lame`
`19:53.58`	`RedWraith`	`how annoying`
`19:54.05`	`slightlyrandom`	`There are some pretty annoying holes in the editor right now :)`
`19:54.20`	`casperb`	`Should list the buggy api bits somewhere`
`19:54.24`	`RedWraith`	`Anyone want to create a fun one-shot map with me today?`
`19:54.25`	`RedWraith`	`:O`
`19:54.33`	`RedWraith`	`Nothing big. Not even sure what I'd like to make.`
`19:54.35`	`slightlyrandom`	`one-shot ?`
`19:54.37`	`Vulfe`	`one-shot map?`
`19:54.43`	`Vulfe`	`you are a zergling`
`19:54.44`	`casperb`	`hack session i suppose`
`19:54.48`	`Vulfe`	`everything kills you in one shot`
`19:54.49`	`slightlyrandom`	`heh`
`19:54.51`	`Vulfe`	`gl hf`
`19:54.52`	`RedWraith`	`lol`
`19:54.57`	`slightlyrandom`	`:D`
`19:55.03`	`RedWraith`	`but srsly`
`19:55.14`	`Vulfe`	`before I quit wc3 I was working on a TD`
`19:55.14`	`RedWraith`	`It's that or I'll work on towers today...`
`19:55.20`	`Vulfe`	`where every creep died in one hit`
`19:55.24`	`Vulfe`	`but there were tons of them`
`19:55.27`	`Vulfe`	`lag problems : (`
`19:55.37`	`slightlyrandom`	`SC2 is better with mass amounts of units`
`19:55.44`	`Vulfe`	`yeah`
`19:55.44`	`Vulfe`	`ino`
`19:55.57`	`casperb`	`culls very well, and logic takes 0 time`
`19:56.01`	`casperb`	`well not 0 but very little`
`19:56.36`	`slightlyrandom`	`Hm, what is the Curse Rewards Points thingie ?`
`19:56.48`	`Vulfe`	`it takes all of your money`
`19:56.50`	`Vulfe`	`and gives it to hobos`
`19:56.56`	`TheLaughingMan`	`You can turn the points into free sex`
`19:57.11`	`depthsofchaos`	`with dustin browder`
`19:57.13`	`slightlyrandom`	`Nice, I like hobos`
`19:57.24`	`Vulfe`	`you won't`
`19:57.28`	`Vulfe`	`once they take all your money`
`19:58.01`	`Vulfe`	`I hate how the iPhone firmware update cock blocks everything else my computer is doing`
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`19:58.09`	`Vulfe`	`wtf Jobs`
`19:58.10`	`Vulfe`	`wtf`
`19:58.21`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I hate the iPhone`
`19:58.27`	`Vulfe`	`it hates you`
`19:58.32`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I prefer Android`
`19:58.38`	`Vulfe`	`I prefer Fruit Ninja`
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`19:59.21`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Android runs Linux natively`
`19:59.26`	`Vulfe`	`and?`
`19:59.33`	`casperb`	`He's a geek`
`19:59.38`	`MindWorX	`I prefer neither`
`19:59.43`	`slightlyrandom`	`Anything that can run Linux is awesome`
`19:59.43`	`TheLaughingMan`	`plus it supported multi-tasking 100% from the first version`
`19:59.48`	`MindWorX	`It's like Windows vs Mac :P`
`19:59.49`	`Vulfe`	`ok`
`19:59.51`	`Tehwildcard`	`I hate all cellphones`
`19:59.56`	`Tehwildcard`	`Governments can track you with them`
`19:59.59`	`slightlyrandom`	`Why can't I pick Localization: EnGB on the sc2mapster.com site ?`
`20:00.01`	`MindWorX	`They both have their good sides and their bad sides`
`20:00.03`	`Vulfe`	`I like being able to call people and play fruit ninja`
`20:00.03`	`TheLaughingMan`	`IPhone took like 4 phones`
`20:00.04`	`Vulfe`	`so who cares`
`20:00.09`	`casperb`	`Meh Linux is good for dev's, day to day use windows or osx`
`20:00.30`	`MindWorX	`Linux is good for dev? Is that some kind of joke? :P`
`20:00.39`	`casperb`	`It's a good desktop os?`
`20:00.44`	`MindWorX	`Unless you dev for linux, there's no advantage in deving on linux`
`20:00.53`	`casperb`	`Ehm, yea you do`
`20:00.58`	`casperb`	`There's no tools for windows :p`
`20:01.03`	`MindWorX	`... What? :P`
`20:01.04`	`Vulfe`	`ok`
`20:01.14`	`MindWorX	`I think i'll just stop discussing this :P I hate discussing with clueless people`
`20:01.22`	`Vulfe`	`okay`
`20:01.25`	`Vulfe`	`let's talk about maps`
`20:01.34`	`casperb`	`Dude, setting up cygwin is a pain in the ass when you can just run native gcc etc :p`
`20:01.53`	`casperb`	`Try getting ruby running on windows, and building libs etc, pain in the ass`
`20:01.58`	`Zoxc`	`true, linux is superior for development`
`20:02.09`	`Zoxc`	`getting ruby setup on windows is easy`
`20:02.12`	`MindWorX	`Another cluesless person enters the discussion :P this is going to be funny`
`20:02.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Cygwin took me 1 try to get going`
`20:02.38`	`Zoxc`	`MindWorX: do you do any development on GNU/Linux?
`20:03.12`	`MindWorX	"[22:01] <`MindWorX> Unless you dev for linux, there's no advantage in deving on linux"
`20:03.14`	`MindWorX	`:D`
`20:03.28`	`MindWorX	`Like i said tho, clueless people is clueless, so i'll just leave you to yourself`
`20:03.37`	`casperb`	`sniff sniff`
`20:03.39`	`casperb`	`troll?`
`20:03.48`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Linux is so fun`
`20:03.49`	`Zoxc`	`well if you compare Windows to Linux and remove Linux from the comparasion :/`
`20:05.24`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Windows is good`
`20:05.32`	`TheLaughingMan`	`But it is no that customizable`
`20:06.09`	`TheLaughingMan`	`OSX is good but photo/video editing`
`20:06.14`	`TheLaughingMan`	`But expensive as hell`
`20:06.42`	`casperb`	`Software support is not as good for osx these days as it used to be`
`20:06.57`	`casperb`	`Or atleast no exclusive support`
`20:06.59`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Plus OSX isn't the best gaming platform`
`20:08.00`	`casperb`	Anyways, do you'd prefer setting up gcc etc in windows rather than just using linux `MindWorX ? o.O
`20:08.28`	`MindWorX	`gcc on windows took me like 10minutes the first time i ever did it, before i even got into hacking`
`20:08.46`	`MindWorX	`Install with the installer, add the environment path, and presto`
`20:09.11`	`casperb`	`gcc is simple, but just all the tools you use on a day to day basis, from grep to foobar`
`20:09.25`	`MindWorX	`I don't use those tools.`
`20:09.36`	`MindWorX	`Ofcouse, all my hacking is done in C mainly, and all i use is notepad++`
`20:09.39`	`Zoxc`	`Windows lack some easy to use GNU distribution (cygwin is just emuation)`
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`20:09.49`	`s1dd`	`linux is an operating system for hackers`
`20:09.51`	`Zoxc`	`Valgrind is missed too`
`20:09.51`	`s1dd`	`hacking is illegal`
`20:09.53`	`s1dd`	`:/`
`20:10.00`	`MindWorX	`Is hacking illegal?`
`20:10.01`	`MindWorX	`Funny`
`20:10.09`	`s1dd`	`yeah man`
`20:10.12`	`casperb`	`Hacking isn't illegal ;)`
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`20:10.15`	`s1dd`	`tr0ll3d`
`20:10.16`	`MindWorX	`So if i begin hacking my own software, i'll get thrown in jail?`
`20:10.19`	`Zoxc`	`Windows has superior font rendering though!`
`20:10.21`	`MindWorX	`Man i need to be careful :P`
`20:10.25`	`s1dd`	`SIR I AM MERELY TROLLING THE CHANNEL PLEASE RELAX`
`20:10.28`	`MindWorX	`NO`
`20:10.31`	`MindWorX	`I DONT RELAX`
`20:10.33`	`s1dd`	`sex`
`20:10.34`	`MindWorX	`I DONT DO RELAX`
`20:10.36`	`MindWorX	`Ohh`
`20:10.49`	`MindWorX	`I'm intrigued! What is this "sex"?`
`20:10.51`	`MindWorX	`Is it edible?`
`20:10.54`	`s1dd`	`i feel like ive seen you before mind`
`20:10.56`	`MindWorX	`I've never tried "sex"`
`20:11.11`	`MindWorX	`Where would i go about buying "sex"`
`20:11.13`	`MindWorX	`?`
`20:11.17`	`Jcup`	`The corner`
`20:11.22`	`Jcup`	`now go have fun`
`20:11.30`	`casperb`	`Just look for the guy with the pink hat`
`20:11.34`	`Jcup`	`Ha`
`20:11.36`	`Zoxc`	`MindWorX: do you know how to make MSVC link to a static library in another project? =P
`20:11.43`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Sex is the bonding of male and females of the same species, sometimes though it can be done between cross-species pairs`
`20:11.55`	`MindWorX	`Zoxc, Sparsile does that`
`20:11.56`	`slightlyrandom`	`or same gender pairs`
`20:12.11`	`MindWorX	`Well, the old sparsile did`
`20:12.14`	`MindWorX	`Not the new one`
`20:12.20`	`TheLaughingMan`	`It also allows for male-female pairs of the same species to reproduce`
`20:12.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`Or not with a pair at all, but with anything from 1 to 10 participants!`
`20:12.23`	`Zoxc`	`I just get linking errors :(`
`20:12.41`	`casperb`	`Sometimes even up to a 100`
`20:12.45`	`MindWorX	`Talk to xttocs, he was the one that set it up`
`20:13.16`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Well technically Females can be connected with 3 males, and a male can be connected with 1 female and 1 male`
`20:13.23`	`casperb`	`Zoxc: nmake or IDE?`
`20:13.33`	`Zoxc`	`IDE`
`20:13.35`	`Sixen`	`hax`
`20:13.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`is anyone aware of a scema for the units data table?`
`20:13.39`	`slightlyrandom`	`1 female, two males`
`20:13.47`	`Tehwildcard`	`Sixen`
`20:13.48`	`Zoxc`	`I use C symbols though`
`20:13.52`	`Sixen`	`Yar?`
`20:13.53`	`Tehwildcard`	`You come on for like 5mins`
`20:13.59`	`Tehwildcard`	`then vanish for 23hrs`
`20:14.07`	`Sixen`	`you were just offline :p`
`20:14.12`	`Tehwildcard`	`pfft`
`20:14.16`	`Tehwildcard`	`I dont sleep`
`20:14.26`	`MindWorX	`TheLaughingMan, You're overdescribing sex :P Now i'll never try it`
`20:14.40`	`Sixen`	`lawl`
`20:14.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`im gonna take that as a no :P`
`20:14.46`	`Sixen`	`Sorry Rod :\|`
`20:15.00`	`casperb`	`as in xml schema?`
`20:15.02`	`Sixen`	`ScytheBlade1 would possibly know`
`20:15.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`making xml into table format is much more complicated yes casperb`
`20:15.11`	`Sixen`	`He had written a script to grab all unit data`
`20:16.06`	`TheLaughingMan`	`MindWorX, if you want I can draw a schematic and do the math for you
`20:16.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`well just trying to take the xml and convert it into a usable table`
`20:16.29`	`RodOfNOD`	`excel does an ok job but not really what i wanted`
`20:17.04`	`MindWorX	`TheLaughingMan, I'd very much like that :D`
`20:17.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`what is this?`
`20:17.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`hey`
`20:17.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`whoa two messages`
`20:17.19`	`ScytheBlade1`	`oh okay`
`20:17.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`working on converting xml to a table and was wondering if there was a scema`
`20:17.28`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Sixen: disregard, thanks though`
`20:17.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`for each of the data tables`
`20:17.35`	`ScytheBlade1`	`define data tables`
`20:17.36`	`Sixen`	`Ah`
`20:17.46`	`Sixen`	`Okay :p`
`20:17.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`well imagine excel and u get what i want`
`20:17.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`the ability to copy set data down`
`20:18.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`not quite`
`20:18.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`just a better GUI for the editor`
`20:18.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`namely`
`20:18.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`what is your source bit of data`
`20:18.11`	`ScytheBlade1`	`and what do you want it to be?`
`20:18.15`	`TheLaughingMan`	`The mammal with the longest penis to size ratio is the Argentine Lake Duck`
`20:18.29`	`RodOfNOD`	`atm i have just ripped out the xml file for units when i created a new unit`
`20:18.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`but it wont have all the fields unless i put something in them`
`20:18.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`and i was trying to avoid that`
`20:18.55`	`ArgentineLakeDuc`	`It's true.`
`20:19.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`SiNiquity: http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/img/argenduck.jpg`
`20:19.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`err`
`20:19.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`bah`
`20:19.11`	`ScytheBlade1`	`SiNiquity: disregard`
`20:19.13`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Sixen: http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/img/argenduck.jpg`
`20:19.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`you sure you want to do that? :p`
`20:19.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`me?`
`20:19.37`	`ScytheBlade1`	`no, sorry`
`20:19.39`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`20:19.46`	`ScytheBlade1`	`sec while I read up and try to understand this`
`20:20.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`its simple really i just want to have a table of sc2 data`
`20:20.08`	`TheLaughingMan`	`The Argentine Lake Duck's penis is 17 inches while it's body is only 8 inches`
`20:20.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`be able to manipulate it like it was in a spread sheet`
`20:20.12`	`Sixen`	`With all data, correct? Armor, etc?`
`20:20.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes`
`20:20.25`	`Sixen`	`I could use that for a project..`
`20:20.27`	`ScytheBlade1`	`in that context, no, I don't believe anything exists`
`20:20.37`	`TheLaughingMan`	`For a human to have the same ratio it would require a human male to have a 12 foot penis`
`20:20.43`	`RodOfNOD`	`k well im thinking of making something in filemaker`
`20:20.47`	`ScytheBlade1`	`yes, in theory that could be done with an xsd, but it could be done better with a lot of different tools`
`20:20.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`such as?`
`20:21.03`	`ScytheBlade1`	`pretty much any programming language`
`20:21.05`	`Sixen`	`Sbo, didn't you make one...?`
`20:21.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`iv downloaded alot of xml editors they all blow for what i want`
`20:21.15`	`Fisker`	`Sixen`
`20:21.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`the bigger obstacle is knowing what all possible values are`
`20:21.18`	`Sixen`	`Fisker`
`20:21.18`	`Fisker`	`it's getting hot in here`
`20:21.22`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Sixen: from what I understand, no`
`20:21.29`	`RodOfNOD`	`agreed ScytheBlade1`
`20:21.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`thats what im trying to find out`
`20:21.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`there isn't a definitive source`
`20:21.50`	`ScytheBlade1`	`and you likely won't ever have one, less someone reverse-engineers it`
`20:21.53`	`RodOfNOD`	`there arent any files that we can suck?`
`20:22.09`	`Sixen`	`Sure?`
`20:22.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`i figured it was all in the game just like wc3`
`20:22.14`	`Sixen`	`How about the units already in-game..?`
`20:22.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`all we could do there is build a composite of what they're using`
`20:22.44`	`ScytheBlade1`	`chances are good (near guaranteed) that the engine supports things that they aren't doing presently`
`20:22.52`	`Sixen`	`So you're saying potentially there's more values we don't know about and are unused atm?`
`20:23.06`	`ScytheBlade1`	`it has been that way in every single blizzard game I've ever seen`
`20:24.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`your best bet would be to build a composite of what we already have, though`
`20:24.11`	`Alpha_vst`	`SIGH`
`20:24.14`	`ScytheBlade1`	`that would more than likely be sufficient for your needs`
`20:25.15`	`Alpha_vst`	`im drawing in 3dsmax for my new ui :P`
`20:25.23`	`Alpha_vst`	`its hard to draw in 3d`
`20:27.37`	`wOlfLinG`	`Woot! Skill tree sorta working :D`
`20:27.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`silly ? used to work in vista how do i search for text in a file from windows 7?`
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`20:28.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`i mean i can find file names but i want to search inside the file`
`20:28.41`	`Alpha_vst`	`open up control panel`
`20:28.47`	`Alpha_vst`	`oh`
`20:29.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`it used to work great in xp and vista`
`20:29.16`	`RodOfNOD`	`but i cant seem to find anyway to do it in win 7`
`20:29.18`	`Alpha_vst`	`idono how to do that :P`
`20:29.26`	`MindWorX	`I win7 you just search, and check "search contents"`
`20:29.27`	`Alpha_vst`	`it should be the same though`
`20:29.37`	`RodOfNOD`	`where do iu check this?`
`20:29.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`where is it`
`20:29.57`	`Alpha_vst`	`yeah i have not seen that`
`20:30.08`	`MindWorX	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/992656/MenuProblem.png`
`20:30.12`	`MindWorX	`Don't mind the file name :P`
`20:30.42`	`RodOfNOD`	`k i dont have that choice`
`20:30.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`so what did u turn it on with`
`20:30.56`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol so you have to research`
`20:30.56`	`MindWorX	`That's on by default for me`
`20:31.01`	`Alpha_vst`	`kinda lame`
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`20:31.27`	`Alpha_vst`	`has to be a better way`
`20:32.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`what version of win 7 do u have mind?`
`20:32.20`	`MindWorX	`Ehm`
`20:32.23`	`MindWorX	`The old RTM one`
`20:32.29`	`MindWorX	`With updates`
`20:32.31`	`MindWorX	`Or do i`
`20:32.32`	`MindWorX	`I dunno`
`20:32.34`	`MindWorX	`Lemme check`
`20:33.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`found it`
`20:33.11`	`RodOfNOD`	`its under control panels folder options`
`20:34.30`	`Alpha_vst`	`if i turn off the aero thing in win 7 will that give me more free ram?`
`20:34.40`	`RodOfNOD`	`didnt work hmm`
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`20:38.49`	`casperb`	`Alpha_vst: nope`
`20:39.20`	`Alpha_vst`	`really are you sure? so windows 7 req 2 mb of ram no matter what?`
`20:39.26`	`casperb`	`Not noticeably atleast`
`20:40.16`	`Alpha_vst`	`i hate the fucking thing i should downgrade 0.o`
`20:40.27`	`casperb`	`Or upgrade your junkbox`
`20:40.29`	`casperb`	`:P`
`20:40.34`	`Alpha_vst`	`its not junky`
`20:40.35`	`casperb`	`What spec's are you running on?`
`20:40.48`	`Alpha_vst`	`well not super junky :P`
`20:40.53`	`casperb`	`386?`
`20:40.54`	`casperb`	`:D`
`20:41.01`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I have a 3 year old laptop that runs Windows 7 good`
`20:41.16`	`Alpha_vst`	`i run windows 7 flawlessly`
`20:41.31`	`Alpha_vst`	`i just dont want to waste ram on pretty shit when i dont need it :P`
`20:41.44`	`casperb`	`Issue with vista and windows 7 is how opengl is handled with aero`
`20:42.07`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I turn off the Aero in my Windows 7, it frees up memory with the graphics card only`
`20:42.08`	`Alpha_vst`	`im running win7 on a mac mini v2`
`20:42.53`	`casperb`	`hum.. about to start a game with someone who has 999 ping :S`
`20:43.22`	`Alpha_vst`	`what`
`20:43.23`	`slightlyrandom`	`Upgrade to Linux`
`20:43.32`	`slightlyrandom`	`Only problem with that is the Editor doesnt really work`
`20:43.46`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol i dont like linux its ugly`
`20:43.52`	`slightlyrandom`	`But who cares! Here at #sc2gaming, we dont care about maps!`
`20:43.58`	`slightlyrandom`	`Ugly? O_o`
`20:44.17`	`Alpha_vst`	`yeah i dont like how it does things either`
`20:44.18`	`slightlyrandom`	`You can make it look pretty much exactly the way you want very very easily`
`20:44.19`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Alpha_vst, well what UI are you using?`
`20:44.27`	`slightlyrandom`	`Oh well`
`20:44.31`	`Alpha_vst`	`but then again this is from using it once like 4 years ago`
`20:44.51`	`TheLaughingMan`	`KDE is one of the better visually good aspect`
`20:45.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`lol interesting`
`20:45.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`The good thing about Linux is choice. The bad thing is also choice`
`20:45.16`	`RodOfNOD`	`peopel say old win 7 it works but not on new win 7`
`20:45.57`	`slightlyrandom`	`You are allowed to make choices. But then, the choices aren't necessarily made for you, so you have to make some`
`20:46.14`	`slightlyrandom`	`Ubuntu is good in that regard though, everything JustWorks out of the box`
`20:46.53`	`slightlyrandom`	`Apart from the stuff that'd break the law, like DVD playback, MP3 playback and other little details`
`20:47.03`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Kubuntu is cooler`
`20:47.30`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yeah, I like the way Kubuntu works a bit better as well`
`20:47.32`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`why would that break the law`
`20:47.35`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`not that I doubt you`
`20:47.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Just curious`
`20:47.55`	`slightlyrandom`	`Requires a license`
`20:48.02`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`aw, never knew that`
`20:48.04`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but I guess it makes sense`
`20:48.07`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`who owns dvds?`
`20:48.07`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`sony?`
`20:48.15`	`slightlyrandom`	`Depends how they are done`
`20:48.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`scary`
`20:48.26`	`slightlyrandom`	`But, playing a DVD on Linux can be illegal, straight up`
`20:48.32`	`slightlyrandom`	`Encryption`
`20:48.42`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`well what if you are running a program that has a license on it?`
`20:48.47`	`slightlyrandom`	`And it being illegal to circumvent it, since they havent made official tools to decrypt`
`20:49.24`	`slightlyrandom`	`Sure, if you pay the cash you're in the clear`
`20:49.35`	`slightlyrandom`	`Windows and Apple does this`
`20:49.47`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Is it a patent or a copyright?`
`20:49.51`	`slightlyrandom`	`This is for MP3 and h264`
`20:49.54`	`slightlyrandom`	`Patent`
`20:50.06`	`TheLaughingMan`	`When did DVDs come out?`
`20:50.14`	`slightlyrandom`	`DVD is different`
`20:50.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`With DVDs the problem is encryption :)`
`20:50.32`	`TheLaughingMan`	`When did DVDs come out`
`20:50.36`	`slightlyrandom`	`Beats me`
`20:50.40`	`slightlyrandom`	`15 years ago?`
`20:50.50`	`slightlyrandom`	`Maybe a bit less`
`20:50.54`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Then only 5 more years`
`20:51.02`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`VLC is illegal?`
`20:51.11`	`slightlyrandom`	`I'm guessing it is in some countries`
`20:51.42`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Patents expire in 20 years`
`20:51.47`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yup`
`20:51.53`	`slightlyrandom`	`but DMCA and ACTA does not`
`20:52.01`	`slightlyrandom`	`So no dvd playback for us`
`20:52.14`	`TheLaughingMan`	`It depends though`
`20:52.21`	`TheLaughingMan`	`What if it is a user made DVD`
`20:52.26`	`TheLaughingMan`	`of home video`
`20:52.31`	`slightlyrandom`	`Then it isn't encrypted`
`20:52.47`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Also DMCA needs to be shot`
`20:53.07`	`slightlyrandom`	`:)`
`20:53.25`	`slightlyrandom`	`The world is a funny place`
`20:53.38`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Technically if your playing a stereo in the background and your recording your kid dancing and put it on youtube, and DMCA comes and pulls your video you can sue them`
`20:53.43`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it is pretty weird, innit`
`20:53.45`	`TheLaughingMan`	`A lady did that an won`
`20:53.50`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`lots of loopholes and crazy stuff most people don't know about`
`20:54.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`Heh`
`20:54.14`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`did she win? I remember that`
`20:54.18`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Why is that illega?>`
`20:54.29`	`TheLaughingMan`	`She did win the case`
`20:54.38`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`How does tha tmake sense, though`
`20:54.38`	`slightlyrandom`	`It is illegal to reproduce a copyrighted work without permission`
`20:54.46`	`slightlyrandom`	`Unless it falls under fair use, an American only thing`
`20:54.49`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`well`
`20:54.55`	`TheLaughingMan`	`It was illegal for DMCA to do that because it fell under fair use`
`20:55.07`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Google had the right, didn't they? Isn't that part of the ELUA`
`20:55.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`EULA`
`20:55.18`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that you have to agree to before uploading`
`20:55.24`	`slightlyrandom`	`EULA's haven't been proven to be legally binding`
`20:55.33`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`hah, what is the point`
`20:55.39`	`slightlyrandom`	`They haven't been tried in court`
`20:55.44`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Either way, they are allowed to remove content from their own servers`
`20:55.48`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`they arn't removing it from her computer.`
`20:56.02`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yeah, but this wasn't google doing it`
`20:56.09`	`slightlyrandom`	`It was someone coming along and telling google to pull a video`
`20:56.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Youtube is owned by google`
`20:56.11`	`TheLaughingMan`	`When DMCA pulls a vidoe they contact google and pretty much say pull it or we sue`
`20:56.12`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Well`
`20:56.15`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Google could say no`
`20:56.16`	`slightlyrandom`	`Using the DMCA where it didn't apply`
`20:56.17`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but they don't want to`
`20:56.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`they never do`
`20:56.28`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Because it's bad business to fight on the side of the little people`
`20:56.44`	`Vulfe`	`most people are around the same size`
`20:56.50`	`slightlyrandom`	`Naw`
`20:56.52`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Google still did it of their own accord, realizing they either do this or suffer a legal battle.`
`20:57.01`	`RedWraith`	`How do I make a unit upside down using the data editor?`
`20:57.05`	`RedWraith`	`or really at all`
`20:57.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`Didn't you hear Vulfe? Corporations are people, too`
`20:57.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`scale -1?`
`20:57.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`maybe`
`20:57.26`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I have no idea, but it works for doodads`
`20:57.45`	`slightlyrandom`	`Heh, that's quite clever P_R_Deltoid`
`20:57.46`	`TheLaughingMan`	`She sued DMCA not google`
`20:57.59`	`slightlyrandom`	`Well, not DMCA, but Warner or whoever`
`20:58.02`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`But DMCA didn't pull the video, they asked google to.`
`20:58.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`DMCA is a legal document`
`20:58.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`google pulled it, and they have the right to do so`
`20:58.12`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`okay, whoever`
`20:58.25`	`slightlyrandom`	`Warner, Sony, BMG, those are the guys doing the bad stuff`
`20:58.53`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I don't disagree that they are terrible companies`
`20:58.55`	`slightlyrandom`	`Well, it is slightly important that you realize who is doing this shit, so you see the patterns and recognize them for what they are`
`20:58.59`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Technically you can't go around threatening people with suing people for invalid reasons`
`20:59.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`Blackmail, is the term`
`20:59.13`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I know they are terrible, most big media/telecoms are`
`20:59.21`	`Tehwildcard`	`I'll sue you for saying that TheLaughingMan`
`20:59.22`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Hardly blackmail.`
`20:59.26`	`slightlyrandom`	`They aren't terrible, they are just for profit companies`
`20:59.29`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`That is like a cease and desist being blackmail`
`20:59.31`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it's just a warning`
`20:59.43`	`slightlyrandom`	`Not if you're doing it on invalid grounds`
`20:59.44`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`pull it or we will attempt to perform a legal suit against you.`
`20:59.49`	`TheLaughingMan`	`All I know is that she won and her video is back on you tube`
`20:59.53`	`Vulfe`	`it's not like you guys in this internet chat room decide the case anyway`
`20:59.53`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Validity would have been determined by google.`
`21:00.03`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Exactly`
`21:00.08`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Just wondering how that even got through`
`21:00.15`	`Tehwildcard`	`I just joined the Supreme Court... so..`
`21:00.25`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yeah, the proper attitude is to shrug, move on and let them do whatever they want`
`21:00.38`	`slightlyrandom`	`Who cares, was just some lady, right?`
`21:00.42`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`She won?`
`21:00.46`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`So really, who does care`
`21:00.51`	`slightlyrandom`	`I care`
`21:00.55`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`You would.`
`21:00.59`	`TheLaughingMan`	`It just fell under Fair Use, she didn't get anything out of monetary wise. Just the confirmation it was ok to share the video`
`21:01.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`Now I know I can sue them if my stuff gets pulled, and have a chance in hell of achieving something`
`21:01.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`aw, okay`
`21:01.13`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`see, that makes far more sense`
`21:01.20`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`they are just confirming that google did not HAVE to pull it`
`21:02.13`	`Vulfe`	`What do "Create Persistent" effects do`
`21:02.14`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Fair Use and Public Figures allow for South Park to be un-sueable`
`21:02.26`	`TheLaughingMan`	`And also DMCA doesn't apply in the land of Pirate Bay`
`21:02.38`	`slightlyrandom`	`They are trying to remedy that TheLaughingMan`
`21:02.41`	`slightlyrandom`	`ACTA`
`21:02.43`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I still don't understand the whole pirate bay thing`
`21:02.46`	`slightlyrandom`	`Global DMCA tradeagreement`
`21:02.57`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Ehh, it's has a bunch of holes in it however`
`21:02.58`	`Vulfe`	`They're swedish`
`21:03.00`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`athough it seems copyright holders have finally at least gotten them a bit.`
`21:03.01`	`Vulfe`	`they do what they want`
`21:03.13`	`slightlyrandom`	`Heh`
`21:03.13`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`They are coasting on appeals or something, right?`
`21:03.17`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Since they aren't storing any of the data`
`21:03.18`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yup`
`21:03.43`	`slightlyrandom`	`The judge that handed down the verdict was found to have been part of a copyright promotion organization`
`21:03.46`	`Vulfe`	`What does Create Persistent dooooooo`
`21:03.55`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`creates something that persists`
`21:03.58`	`Vulfe`	`oh really`
`21:03.59`	`Vulfe`	`no shit`
`21:04.06`	`Vulfe`	`: \`
`21:04.07`	`slightlyrandom`	`On the same board as the two prosecutors`
`21:04.09`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I am serious, it does.`
`21:04.16`	`Vulfe`	`of course it does`
`21:04.19`	`Vulfe`	`what does it create though`
`21:04.21`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Well what does something that persists do?`
`21:04.24`	`slightlyrandom`	`Whatever you want it to`
`21:04.25`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`a persistant.`
`21:04.29`	`slightlyrandom`	`An effect`
`21:04.29`	`Vulfe`	`lol.`
`21:04.33`	`Alpha_vst`	`its a referance Vulfe`
`21:04.36`	`Alpha_vst`	`for effects`
`21:04.44`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I was gonna say that`
`21:04.46`	`Vulfe`	`does it basically behave as like`
`21:04.47`	`Vulfe`	`a unit`
`21:04.50`	`Vulfe`	`that doesn't really exist?`
`21:04.50`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Anyways`
`21:04.51`	`slightlyrandom`	`You link it to an effect, and thats what it creates`
`21:04.52`	`Alpha_vst`	`no`
`21:04.54`	`TheLaughingMan`	`ThePirateBay rules`
`21:04.58`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Yeah`
`21:05.00`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I like tpb`
`21:05.00`	`Alpha_vst`	`its more like a variable`
`21:05.23`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Also it's funny when they get C&Ds from America that quotes american laws`
`21:05.37`	`TheLaughingMan`	`or international laws that don't apply in Sweden`
`21:05.44`	`Alpha_vst`	`:P`
`21:05.53`	`Alpha_vst`	`they are fighting a good fight`
`21:06.04`	`slightlyrandom`	`Turns out america gets to decide what is law in Sweden, though`
`21:06.16`	`TheLaughingMan`	`All they are doing is explaining what torrenting is`
`21:06.18`	`Vulfe`	`America is the self-proclaimed internet police`
`21:06.19`	`Vulfe`	`basically`
`21:06.24`	`slightlyrandom`	`Foreign Minister gets home from a trip to the US, tells the police whats what, two days later TPB gets raided`
`21:06.47`	`LordAbyss`	`is there an easy way to find the attachment points on a unit?`
`21:06.57`	`Alpha_vst`	`no we are the self-proclaimed police if you dont do what we say we will force are army on you and crush you 0.o`
`21:07.17`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I am the self-proclaimed owner of the interwebs`
`21:07.23`	`slightlyrandom`	`So am I!`
`21:07.30`	`Vulfe`	`me too`
`21:07.34`	`Vulfe`	`still now roomate`
`21:07.36`	`Vulfe`	`fingers crossed`
`21:07.47`	`slightlyrandom`	`Thats no fun Vulfe, gotta have a roomie`
`21:07.50`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I am the elite hacker known as the Laughing Man`
`21:07.50`	`slightlyrandom`	`a partner in crime`
`21:07.53`	`slightlyrandom`	`A confidant`
`21:08.00`	`Vulfe`	`Last time my roommates were a druggie and a gay fashion guy`
`21:08.01`	`Vulfe`	`sooo`
`21:08.06`	`slightlyrandom`	`And, someone to take the blame when they find your stash of weed`
`21:08.20`	`Alpha_vst`	`god`
`21:08.35`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yes?`
`21:08.42`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Also the idiots who get the list of IPs of people torrenting files are stupid`
`21:08.51`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`21:08.58`	`Alpha_vst`	`i have a static ip :P`
`21:09.10`	`TheLaughingMan`	`A school got a C&D saying a networked printer of theres was downloading illegal files`
`21:09.11`	`Vulfe`	`So basically, persistents are just used to give effects a delay between occurences`
`21:09.24`	`Vulfe`	`like the thor anti-air and banshee missiles`
`21:09.33`	`Alpha_vst`	`nope sorta`
`21:09.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`More like Psi Storm`
`21:09.40`	`Alpha_vst`	`they can do that`
`21:09.48`	`Vulfe`	`that's obviously an over-simplification`
`21:09.51`	`Alpha_vst`	`but they can do other shit also`
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`21:10.01`	`Vulfe`	`do persistents simply expire at the end of their periods?`
`21:10.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I remeber the networked printers in my HS`
`21:10.26`	`TheLaughingMan`	`We hacked them and changed the messages on the LCD`
`21:10.32`	`slightlyrandom`	`They happen until you tell em to go away`
`21:10.36`	`slightlyrandom`	`And you do that with a timer`
`21:10.50`	`slightlyrandom`	`I'm guessing you can make that infinite, however`
`21:10.52`	`Vulfe`	`persistents created by effects shouldn't need triggers`
`21:11.07`	`TheLaughingMan`	`We even hacked it further and did very pixelated porn`
`21:11.20`	`slightlyrandom`	`( . ) ( . ) ?`
`21:11.34`	`TheLaughingMan`	`No hacking the characters and making our own`
`21:11.43`	`TheLaughingMan`	`And doing pictures`
`21:13.02`	`Vulfe`	`Why does the nuke persistent have 50 periods that don't seem to do anything`
`21:13.12`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Cause it's special`
`21:13.20`	`Vulfe`	`:(`
`21:13.33`	`Vulfe`	`I need to find the SC2 nerds at yale...`
`21:13.49`	`Vulfe`	`would be easier at like`
`21:13.50`	`Vulfe`	`MIT`
`21:13.51`	`TheLaughingMan`	`The nuke needs to do more damage to organics`
`21:14.00`	`Vulfe`	`wtf?`
`21:14.04`	`Vulfe`	`how is that relevant`
`21:14.13`	`TheLaughingMan`	`And the closer it is to the point the more damage`
`21:14.31`	`TheLaughingMan`	`and like damage over time depending on the severity of the extra damage`
`21:14.33`	`TheLaughingMan`	`for radiation`
`21:14.53`	`Vulfe`	`the nuke damage is done entirely in one search effect`
`21:14.58`	`Vulfe`	`also, this is before it's detonated`
`21:15.23`	`TheLaughingMan`	`I am saying it needs to be that way`
`21:15.27`	`TheLaughingMan`	`It is possible`
`21:15.33`	`Alpha_vst`	`stop trying to understand the logic`
`21:15.34`	`Vulfe`	`whatever`
`21:15.45`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Change the search effect to have multiple areas`
`21:15.50`	`Vulfe`	`it already does`
`21:15.52`	`Vulfe`	`x.x`
`21:16.07`	`TheLaughingMan`	`It's a circle`
`21:16.14`	`TheLaughingMan`	`that applys the same damage`
`21:16.42`	`Vulfe`	`the nuke damage effect has 3 circles`
`21:16.47`	`Vulfe`	`at 4, 6, and 8 distance`
`21:16.53`	`Vulfe`	`for 100%, 50%, and 25% damage`
`21:16.55`	`Vulfe`	`respectively`
`21:17.08`	`Vulfe`	`how is that relevant to me asking why a persistent has periods that don't do anything`
`21:17.16`	`TheLaughingMan`	`They must of changed it the last time I looked at it`
`21:17.26`	`TheLaughingMan`	`You where talking about the nuke`
`21:17.31`	`Vulfe`	`yes`
`21:17.40`	`Helral`	`~seen ProzaicMuze`
`21:17.44`	`purl`	`prozaicmuze <~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 20h 56m 7s ago, saying: 'peace alls'.`
`21:17.48`	`Vulfe`	`maybe it needs those periods to update the actor`
`21:17.50`	`Vulfe`	`but that just seems dumb`
`21:18.03`	`TheLaughingMan`	`and I was talking about how the nuke needed to be upgraded`
`21:21.12`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Is there any way to convert a point to apoint, or get the difference between two points`
`21:21.15`	`RodOfNOD`	`interesting anyone have a theory on why there is a diffference between the liberty single player vs multiplayer for 3 units, hydra, void ray and forge?`
`21:21.55`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Cause there not in single player`
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`21:21.55`	`rrowland`	`point1 x - point 2 x, point1 y - point2 y = diff`
`21:22.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`they are in single player`
`21:22.17`	`TheLaughingMan`	`How do you know?`
`21:22.20`	`Vulfe`	`Because valve has an awesome minigame in single player that involves only forges, void rays, and hydralisks?`
`21:22.32`	`Vulfe`	`;P`
`21:22.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`hehe`
`21:22.35`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`But... I can't figure out how to do math with points`
`21:23.08`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I assume I do it in a set variable action, but points have no math presets`
`21:23.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`the hyralisk appears to be identical`
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`21:23.37`	`Alpha_vst`	`http://i48.tinypic.com/2qsunpw.jpg <--- new ui so far? any suggestions?`
`21:23.59`	`*** join/#sc2mapster allenmellon (~allenmelo@97-93-62-207.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com)`
`21:23.59`	`Triceron`	`80'stastic!`
`21:24.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`post a pic we can see?`
`21:24.10`	`Vulfe`	`make it lok awesome`
`21:24.13`	`Vulfe`	`that's my suggestion`
`21:24.32`	`Alpha_vst`	`you cant see that?`
`21:24.36`	`RodOfNOD`	`all i see is white`
`21:24.43`	`Triceron`	`I can see it`
`21:25.08`	`RodOfNOD`	`wow firefox can see it`
`21:25.10`	`RodOfNOD`	`but IE cant`
`21:25.16`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`21:25.18`	`Alpha_vst`	`ie fails`
`21:25.39`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`rrowland, is finding that kind of difference between points and putting it in an integer possible with gui?`
`21:25.48`	`Vulfe`	`IE can't open a jpg file in a web browser?`
`21:25.53`	`Vulfe`	`-.-`
`21:25.59`	`RodOfNOD`	`normally it can`
`21:26.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`just not that one`
`21:26.02`	`rrowland`	`yes`
`21:26.11`	`Alpha_vst`	`thats a special jpg`
`21:26.14`	`Alpha_vst`	`its anti ie`
`21:26.24`	`Vulfe`	`he's trying to convert people`
`21:26.41`	`Alpha_vst`	`cause i made it in paint so its not compatible with ie`
`21:26.43`	`Alpha_vst`	`:P`
`21:27.09`	`Vulfe`	`paint?`
`21:27.10`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`21:27.14`	`Alpha_vst`	`paint yeah`
`21:27.39`	`Alpha_vst`	`its what i make quick save ss with`
`21:27.52`	`Alpha_vst`	`PS takes to much effort lol`
`21:28.55`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh found it`
`21:28.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`X of Point`
`21:30.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`interesting fact - max # abilities a unit can have = 32`
`21:30.25`	`Vulfe`	`what a limitation`
`21:30.38`	`Vulfe`	`it would have been better as 42`
`21:30.42`	`Vulfe`	`because that's ten more`
`21:30.44`	`Vulfe`	`and a cooler number`
`21:31.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`if ur going for cooler then how bout 69?`
`21:31.24`	`Vulfe`	`too many`
`21:31.34`	`Vulfe`	`ruins the feng shui of my editor`
`21:31.38`	`Vulfe`	`or however that's spelled`
`21:31.53`	`Vulfe`	`wow`
`21:31.57`	`Vulfe`	`that's actually right`
`21:32.02`	`Vulfe`	`pats himself on the back`
`21:32.16`	`Vulfe`	`Oh, wow`
`21:32.18`	`Vulfe`	`I'm dumb`
`21:32.26`	`Vulfe`	`turns out a "set" effect is just a set of effects`
`21:32.29`	`Vulfe`	`is a loser`
`21:33.06`	`Vulfe`	`Isn't Damage just a more specific form of Modify Unit?`
`21:33.08`	`Vulfe`	`: \`
`21:33.10`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol duh Vulfe`
`21:33.22`	`Alpha_vst`	`set is a set of effects woot`
`21:33.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`wow`
`21:33.54`	`Vulfe`	`I thought it like`
`21:33.55`	`Alpha_vst`	`what`
`21:33.56`	`Vulfe`	`set something`
`21:33.57`	`Vulfe`	`jesus`
`21:34.01`	`RodOfNOD`	`blizzard is using 2 different sorts of xml for the same thing`
`21:34.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`this is really weird`
`21:34.03`	`Alpha_vst`	`it does actually`
`21:34.04`	`Vulfe`	`nowai`
`21:34.17`	`Alpha_vst`	`set sets the target`
`21:34.19`	`Alpha_vst`	`:P`
`21:34.23`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`21:34.26`	`Vulfe`	`don't get smart with me`
`21:34.30`	`Alpha_vst`	`its true`
`21:34.38`	`Vulfe`	`the target could have already been set by a persistent or a search`
`21:34.41`	`Alpha_vst`	`its how i fixed my teleport abilty`
`21:35.10`	`Alpha_vst`	`i used the location of set and not the persisatent`
`21:35.14`	`Alpha_vst`	`dont ask me but it works`
`21:35.56`	`Vulfe`	`how does your teleport ability work`
`21:36.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`i find this weird: http://pastebin.com/VwTpS1wG 2 command card deals one is set all on one line other is split out`
`21:36.12`	`LordAbyss`	`uggh i just realized that the competition is about attaching units to eachother`
`21:36.14`	`LordAbyss`	`>.<`
`21:36.15`	`Alpha_vst`	`i get the units around a building and then move them`
`21:36.30`	`Alpha_vst`	`i gave up on the double click effect`
`21:36.52`	`Vulfe`	`i c`
`21:37.09`	`Alpha_vst`	`its like a reverse recall`
`21:37.12`	`Vulfe`	`and how does that make you feel`
`21:37.19`	`Alpha_vst`	`great`
`21:37.23`	`Vulfe`	`i c`
`21:37.27`	`Vulfe`	`how does stalker blink work, anyway`
`21:37.28`	`Alpha_vst`	`cause it took me a whole day to fucking do`
`21:37.40`	`Vulfe`	`oh`
`21:37.44`	`Vulfe`	`there's a "Teleport" effect`
`21:37.45`	`Vulfe`	`cool.`
`21:37.49`	`Alpha_vst`	`LOL`
`21:37.52`	`Alpha_vst`	`yes`
`21:38.03`	`*** part/#sc2mapster TheLaughingMan (~TheLaughi@72.183.111.71)`
`21:38.35`	`Vulfe`	`how do you make effects look like something`
`21:38.35`	`Vulfe`	`btw`
`21:38.39`	`Vulfe`	`i'm dumb with visuals`
`21:38.53`	`slightlyrandom`	`Spawn an actor`
`21:38.58`	`Vulfe`	`oh`
`21:39.00`	`Vulfe`	`that's lame`
`21:39.03`	`slightlyrandom`	`Heh`
`21:39.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`Link it to an Actor`
`21:39.14`	`slightlyrandom`	`Then Actor -> Events`
`21:39.21`	`slightlyrandom`	`and Create at the right time`
`21:39.23`	`Vulfe`	`how do you link it to an actor`
`21:39.25`	`Vulfe`	`btw`
`21:40.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`No idea, I am not on speaking terms with the data editor`
`21:40.17`	`slightlyrandom`	`Bastard doesn't do as I tell it to`
`21:40.45`	`Alpha_vst`	`me and the data editor argue a lot`
`21:40.47`	`Alpha_vst`	`0.o`
`21:42.00`	`slightlyrandom`	`Vulfe: You could try taking a look at one of those tutorials`
`21:42.09`	`Vulfe`	`tutorials are for the weak`
`21:42.12`	`Vulfe`	`but okay`
`21:42.21`	`Alpha_vst`	`LOL`
`21:42.37`	`slightlyrandom`	`The Shockwave one tells you something about persitant effects, as well as about how to make visuals for it`
`21:42.42`	`Alpha_vst`	`UNWRAP THIS BITCH`
`21:42.55`	`slightlyrandom`	`Why'd you wrap her ?`
`21:43.36`	`MindWorX	`What's the registry path for Starcraft II ?`
`21:43.41`	`MindWorX	`To get the installation dir`
`21:45.22`	`MindWorX	`Found it`
`21:45.28`	`MindWorX	`I wonder why it's in LOCAL_MACHINE`
`21:45.47`	`Vulfe`	`If I wanted to make a phoenix fire effect, I should just use a periodic search, right?`
`21:45.55`	`MindWorX	`Yes`
`21:45.57`	`Vulfe`	`why am I even asking, of course I should`
`21:47.08`	`Vulfe`	`movers are so annoying to work with`
`21:47.10`	`Vulfe`	`oh well`
`21:47.13`	`Vulfe`	`not much you can do about it`
`21:47.19`	`Vulfe`	`I suppose`
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`21:48.36`	`Vulfe`	`Is there a way to prioritize targets of a search effect`
`21:48.42`	`Alpha_vst`	`yeah`
`21:48.45`	`Vulfe`	`that doesn't require some ridiculous work around?`
`21:48.47`	`Alpha_vst`	`its at the bottom`
`21:48.58`	`Vulfe`	`ooh`
`21:49.00`	`Vulfe`	`didn't see it there`
`21:49.01`	`Vulfe`	`thx`
`21:49.03`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`21:50.08`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Iggyhopper (~iggyhoppe@adsl-75-12-124-239.dsl.skt2ca.sbcglobal.net)`
`21:50.13`	`Vulfe`	`what do the first two fields do?`
`21:50.22`	`Iggyhopper`	`guys anybody convert sc2 models to .mdl?`
`21:50.26`	`Vulfe`	`Request Count and Percentage`
`21:50.47`	`Iggyhopper`	`arrrg`
`21:50.48`	`Alpha_vst`	`why mdl?`
`21:50.51`	`Iggyhopper`	`gmod`
`21:50.53`	`Iggyhopper`	`hehehehe`
`21:50.56`	`Alpha_vst`	`gmod?`
`21:50.59`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`21:50.59`	`Vulfe`	`nice.`
`21:51.00`	`Iggyhopper`	`garrys mod`
`21:51.09`	`Vulfe`	`blending valve and blizzard`
`21:51.12`	`Vulfe`	`the world might explode`
`21:51.13`	`Vulfe`	`be careful`
`21:51.17`	`Iggyhopper`	`it should be easy since he can already convert it to m3, or m2?`
`21:51.30`	`Iggyhopper`	`he i mean the guy who wrote the converter`
`21:51.30`	`Alpha_vst`	`?`
`21:51.40`	`Alpha_vst`	`you mean to max?`
`21:51.43`	`Iggyhopper`	`i think importer to 3ds max`
`21:51.46`	`Iggyhopper`	`yeah`
`21:52.06`	`Iggyhopper`	`lol ultra in gmod i can see it now`
`21:52.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`god damn blizzard and their inability to be consistant in their xml files`
`21:52.24`	`Alpha_vst`	`IT ROCKS`
`21:52.26`	`Alpha_vst`	`LOL`
`21:52.28`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`21:52.33`	`Vulfe`	`Well`
`21:52.39`	`Vulfe`	`blizzard does a lot of weird things`
`21:52.41`	`Alpha_vst`	`well the thing is im sure more than 1 person worked on that`
`21:52.42`	`Iggyhopper`	`lal`
`21:52.44`	`Vulfe`	`like their normal maps`
`21:52.49`	`Vulfe`	`which are totally f'd up`
`21:52.50`	`Iggyhopper`	`whatever lol`
`21:52.57`	`Iggyhopper`	`all i know is: DO WANT`
`21:53.00`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Lazbro (~chatzilla@91.182.125.241)`
`21:53.13`	`Vulfe`	`gman riding an ultralisk`
`21:53.13`	`Iggyhopper`	`I'll have to talk to da sixen`
`21:53.13`	`Vulfe`	`YES`
`21:53.29`	`Iggyhopper`	`ok peoples, peace`
`21:53.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`no but this is dumb they are using 2 different ways to make the same xml file`
`21:53.57`	`Beider`	`http://www.sc2mod.com/board/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=242`
`21:54.01`	`Alpha_vst`	`RodOfNOD im sure it from 2 diffrent people doing it at 2 diffrent poitns in time`
`21:54.02`	`Beider`	`neat wasn't aware that was possible`
`21:54.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`yes so the ? is can i fix what blizzard did`
`21:55.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster poiuy_qwert (~poiuy_qwe@CPE001b115db0ae-CM0018c0c24ffc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`21:55.43`	`Vulfe`	`bookmarked for later reference`
`21:55.46`	`Vulfe`	`!`
`21:55.48`	`Alpha_vst`	`oh thank god i was trying to understand that`
`21:56.01`	`Alpha_vst`	`i knew i could do it but i oculdnt make it work with other shit`
`21:56.17`	`Alpha_vst`	`blizzard uses it a few times in tool tips 0.o`
`21:57.21`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`haha wow`
`21:57.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I just spent like 30 minutes making a trigger that is accomplished much easier with 1 function`
`21:57.37`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that owns`
`21:57.48`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`21:57.50`	`Alpha_vst`	`what?`
`21:57.55`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Distance Between points`
`21:57.56`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`:)`
`21:57.59`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`21:58.11`	`Alpha_vst`	`yeah they have that`
`21:58.14`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I got two points, converted both the x and y the to reals and then did the math on them, when there is a function that does that`
`21:58.26`	`Alpha_vst`	`silly`
`21:58.32`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I also was trying to use integers`
`21:58.34`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`because I am a dolt`
`21:58.55`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`21:59.00`	`Repo`	`New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/old-ruins/. Old Ruins. Ekyuu2 (Manager/Author). Approved by grum.`
`21:59.01`	`Alpha_vst`	`oh silly`
`22:00.16`	`Lazbro`	`Is repo a bot?`
`22:00.28`	`RedWraith`	`just watched onetwo's item tutorial`
`22:00.35`	`RedWraith`	`I learned a lot about items. Is good.`
`22:00.41`	`Vulfe`	`figured out arc and arc slop`
`22:00.43`	`Vulfe`	`so simple x.x`
`22:00.44`	`RedWraith`	`~seen repo`
`22:00.46`	`purl`	`repo is currently on #waruidev (1h 50m 5s) #sc2mapster (1h 50m 5s) #wowuidev (1h 50m 5s) #arl (1h 50m 5s) #wowace (1h 50m 5s) #curseforge (1h 50m 5s). Has said a total of 23 messages. Is idling for 1m 46s, last said: 'New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/old-ruins/. Old Ruins. Ekyuu2 (Manager/Author). Approved by grum.'.`
`22:00.51`	`RedWraith`	`~seen purl`
`22:00.52`	`purl`	`purl is currently on #casualti (1d 10h 28m 31s) #botpark (1d 10h 28m 31s) #linuxfund (1d 10h 28m 31s) #waruidev (1d 10h 28m 31s) #how (1d 10h 28m 31s) #sc2mapster (1d 10h 28m 31s) #edev (1d 10h 28m 31s) #fossfund (1d 10h 28m 31s) #hosernet (1d 10h 28m 31s) #norganna (1d 10h 28m 31s) #ud (1d 10h 28m 31s) ##ducleague (1d 10h 28m 31s) ##kierra (1d 10h 28m ...`
`22:01.37`	`RedWraith`	`onetwo is sooooo calm though`
`22:01.39`	`Lazbro`	`possible bug: when you make an upgrade that changes a tooltip, and later you try to actually edit the upgrade info, your changed tooltip entry will vanish from the list. Even if you make it again, it will just vanish again.`
`22:01.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`wow`
`22:02.03`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it requires exactly 1 variable and 1 command`
`22:02.08`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`hahaha`
`22:02.09`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`man`
`22:02.12`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that sucks`
`22:03.09`	`Lazbro`	`?`
`22:03.21`	`Lazbro`	`;o`
`22:03.23`	`Lazbro`	`I see`
`22:03.34`	`Lazbro`	`makes you smarter though`
`22:03.45`	`*** join/#sc2mapster TheLaughingMan (~TheLaughi@72.183.111.71)`
`22:03.49`	`Lazbro`	`unlike MY oversight: I didn't notice how to make functions so I copy/pasted a lot... lol`
`22:04.22`	`Alpha_vst`	`um a loop?`
`22:04.23`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`22:04.39`	`RedWraith`	`Is it still impossible to revive heroes?`
`22:04.41`	`RedWraith`	`Just wondering`
`22:04.43`	`Alpha_vst`	`yes`
`22:04.54`	`Alpha_vst`	`someone figgured it out`
`22:05.14`	`RedWraith`	`So, yes, it's impossible, but someone figured it out? NICE!`
`22:05.18`	`RedWraith`	`;)`
`22:05.53`	`depthsofchaos`	`well you can just give them dead state with behaviours`
`22:06.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`RedWraith have u played much with the xml files?`
`22:07.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`hmm`
`22:07.11`	`RedWraith`	`No.`
`22:07.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`k`
`22:07.36`	`RedWraith`	`I am curious if anyone other than OneTwo has made video tutorails.`
`22:07.37`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I am confusing myself on how ifs work, how do I periodicaly check something, like a position, versus another position`
`22:07.42`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and only perform an action if they are the same`
`22:07.43`	`RedWraith`	`I'm a big fan of the video tutorials.`
`22:08.00`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Oh, wait, maybe I have it`
`22:08.04`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`althoug this will be very round about`
`22:08.38`	`RedWraith`	`P_R_Deltoid, variables are saved when you save them. Besides unit groups and units, I don't think any of the others ever change. :P`
`22:08.58`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`naw, I mean, checking them over and over using ifs`
`22:09.12`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`if pos of unit = pos of point, then do this, else repeat`
`22:09.14`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that is basically what I want`
`22:09.16`	`RedWraith`	`oh`
`22:09.21`	`RedWraith`	`if something happens between times`
`22:09.25`	`RedWraith`	`it'll change appropriate`
`22:09.26`	`RedWraith`	`ly`
`22:09.31`	`RedWraith`	`like, say you put wait in a trigger`
`22:09.38`	`RedWraith`	`it'll pick up the last created unit after the wait`
`22:09.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`RedWraith what do mean unit groups and units change?`
`22:09.39`	`RedWraith`	`not before`
`22:09.45`	`RedWraith`	`I don't know, actually.`
`22:09.51`	`RedWraith`	`I figure they do, though, if units die.`
`22:09.58`	`RedWraith`	`Since the units no longer exist...`
`22:10.03`	`Lazbro`	`[00:06]<RedWraith>I am curious if anyone other than OneTwo has made video tutorails. --- hope not, can't consult them at work`
`22:10.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`it would still be in the bag`
`22:10.07`	`RodOfNOD`	`im pretty sure`
`22:10.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`because units can be revived`
`22:11.05`	`RodOfNOD`	`and how would u test if a unit was dead if it suddenly became unassigned?`
`22:11.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`yeah, it doesn't like the while command, it's pretty angry about that`
`22:11.33`	`RedWraith`	`P_R_Deltoid, there's a special while`
`22:11.35`	`RedWraith`	`used for waiting`
`22:11.51`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh hmmm`
`22:12.10`	`Lazbro`	`that's a nice one :)`
`22:12.18`	`Lazbro`	`good for conversations`
`22:12.27`	`Lazbro`	`'wait until player presses a response button'`
`22:12.30`	`RedWraith`	`I need to figure out how people make video tutorials and what kind of upload they require.`
`22:12.43`	`RedWraith`	`because I've got a solid mike and comp and I think I've got the voice for it. :P`
`22:12.49`	`Lazbro`	`oooh`
`22:12.50`	`Alpha_vst`	`sexy`
`22:13.00`	`Alpha_vst`	`mic also:P`
`22:13.06`	`Alpha_vst`	`mike would be a person`
`22:13.10`	`RedWraith`	`It's one of them 50$ sennheisers`
`22:13.15`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh, even easier "wait until unit is idle"`
`22:13.16`	`RedWraith`	`err`
`22:13.18`	`RedWraith`	`60$`
`22:13.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`that one worked pretty well`
`22:13.26`	`Alpha_vst`	`lol`
`22:13.35`	`RedWraith`	`Not super amazing, but solid.`
`22:14.03`	`RedWraith`	`I just want to see if it'd be reasonable for me to convert some of the non-video tutorials other people have made into video tutorials`
`22:14.20`	`RedWraith`	`Since video tutorials are so explicit, it's nice.`
`22:15.15`	`Lazbro`	`is so going to make an explicit video tutorial.`
`22:15.20`	`RedWraith`	`:p`
`22:15.24`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Sixen`
`22:15.33`	`Lazbro`	`'OMG LOOK IT DIDN'T F'ING COPY THE F'ING MISSILE ACTOR F THIS POS EDITOR'`
`22:16.10`	`RedWraith`	`I've heard things like needing gigabytes of upload, though.`
`22:16.13`	`RedWraith`	`And that kinda worries me.`
`22:16.28`	`depthsofchaos`	`5 minute = 100 mb`
`22:16.31`	`depthsofchaos`	`hd`
`22:16.33`	`RedWraith`	`:X`
`22:16.45`	`RedWraith`	`goddamnit, makes me wish fios was in my area`
`22:16.46`	`RedWraith`	`;(`
`22:17.07`	`RedWraith`	`~seen tehwildcard`
`22:17.09`	`purl`	`tehwildcard is currently on #sc2mapster (4h 19s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 1h 16m 54s, last said: 'I just joined the Supreme Court... so..'.`
`22:17.21`	`TheLaughingMan`	`~seen Sixen`
`22:17.22`	`purl`	`sixen is currently on #sc2mapster #wowuidev. Has said a total of 48 messages. Is idling for 1h 54m 30s, last said: 'So you're saying potentially there's more values we don't know about and are unused atm?'.`
`22:17.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`id u click ur heels and say i pray to the fios fairy it might just come true`
`22:17.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`*if`
`22:17.36`	`RedWraith`	`You mean Verizon?`
`22:17.38`	`RedWraith`	`:P`
`22:17.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`exactgly`
`22:19.15`	`TheLaughingMan`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4431-misc-converting-eve-online-models-for-sc2/`
`22:19.47`	`Lazbro`	`!`
`22:30.38`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`why is Attack not under Issue Unit Order`
`22:30.44`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I can't issue a unit to attack wtf is that about`
`22:31.07`	`Lazbro`	`it is`
`22:31.10`	`Lazbro`	`you need to click on the (`
`22:31.21`	`Lazbro`	`and change it from 'issue order' to 'issue order targeting unit' or point`
`22:31.25`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Oh wow`
`22:31.27`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Tricky, thanks`
`22:32.45`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`soooo this is a bit tricky, but if I disable an ability, and force a unit to use it through triggers, will it spazz out`
`22:32.49`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`or will it do it`
`22:33.34`	`TheLaughingMan`	`How do you disable?`
`22:33.36`	`Lazbro`	`I think you can even make a unit use an ability it doesn't have`
`22:33.37`	`Lazbro`	`:)`
`22:33.42`	`Lazbro`	`TheLaughingMan: ability Cost`
`22:33.58`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Unit - Disable Ability`
`22:34.00`	`TheLaughingMan`	`No the unit has to have the ability`
`22:34.06`	`Lazbro`	`ability Cost`
`22:34.08`	`Lazbro`	`ability Cost`
`22:34.10`	`Lazbro`	`!!`
`22:34.13`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Well, what I thought was gonna happen did not`
`22:34.14`	`Lazbro`	`stop using triggers for everything :p`
`22:34.32`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`what?`
`22:35.10`	`RodOfNOD`	`why do u want the unit to have the ability but not be able to use it`
`22:35.23`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Trying to make a unit attack once then stop`
`22:35.34`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but`
`22:35.44`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I changed the ordering anyways.`
`22:36.03`	`RodOfNOD`	`does the unit attack cuz the player directs him to>`
`22:36.17`	`RodOfNOD`	`or does it do it when an enemy comes within range>?`
`22:36.17`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`yes`
`22:36.24`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I want him to attack once only when told`
`22:36.33`	`RodOfNOD`	`then make the attack a spell`
`22:36.33`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`he is paused unless ordered a command.`
`22:36.38`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`isn't it already?`
`22:36.45`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Hmm`
`22:36.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`well it has no energy`
`22:36.54`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I have a feeling this is going to be incredibly complicated for how much I know`
`22:36.59`	`Lazbro`	`add to your attack effect`
`22:37.09`	`Lazbro`	`Effect - Issue Order - Stop`
`22:37.12`	`Lazbro`	`voila`
`22:37.14`	`Lazbro`	`no triggers needed`
`22:38.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`also look at this: FieldMarine - Gauss Rifle`
`22:38.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`Weapon - OptionsCan Initiate Attack, Only Fire While Attacking, Only Fire At Attack Target, Linked Cooldown`
`22:38.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:42.10`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Nice`
`22:43.36`	`Alpha_vst`	`new ui test number 1 :P`
`22:43.41`	`Alpha_vst`	`hopefully this looks good`
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`22:43.52`	`MindWorX	`It doesn't`
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`22:44.50`	`pirate`	`is it possible to make buffs stack at all?`
`22:45.11`	`pirate`	`cuz i've been trying to make a stacking movement speed increasing buff for awhile to no avail`
`22:45.14`	`Alpha_vst`	`GAH`
`22:45.24`	`MindWorX	`Told you so Alpha_vst`
`22:45.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Lazbro, a bit confused on what you mean`
`22:46.53`	`pirate`	`ive set the max stack count to 100, but adding more than 1 of the behaviour does nothing`
`22:49.11`	`Lazbro`	`pirate`
`22:49.18`	`pirate`	`yar`
`22:49.23`	`Lazbro`	`did you set stack count per caster to 100 too?`
`22:49.29`	`pirate`	`yes`
`22:49.39`	`Lazbro`	`P_R_Deltoid: make a new effect that orders unit Source to Stop.`
`22:49.54`	`Lazbro`	`pirate: it's possible that this is a field that doesn't actually stack`
`22:49.56`	`Lazbro`	`try the other ones`
`22:49.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`unit Source?`
`22:50.00`	`Lazbro`	`maybe it doesn't multiply`
`22:50.06`	`pirate`	`ah`
`22:50.20`	`Lazbro`	`P_R_Deltoid: make a Give Order effect`
`22:50.32`	`Lazbro`	`set the target unit (Impact or Target or sth) to 'Source'`
`22:54.07`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`uhm`
`22:54.12`	`Lazbro`	`?`
`22:54.24`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Well`
`22:54.37`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`is there anything after that? Because I can't see how that would do... anything, really.`
`22:54.40`	`Lazbro`	`sec opening the editor`
`22:54.49`	`pirate`	`yeah, looks like movement speed modifier doesnt stack, but movement speed bonus does`
`22:54.50`	`Lazbro`	`you have your effect?`
`22:54.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`You understand I want an ability that just attacks once and stops`
`22:55.03`	`Lazbro`	`pirate: oddly +% attack speed stacks but -% doesn't`
`22:55.11`	`Lazbro`	`P_R_can your unit attack normally?`
`22:55.24`	`Lazbro`	`because EVERY ability shoots once and then storps`
`22:55.26`	`Lazbro`	`*-r`
`22:55.30`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`What do you mean? DO I want to work it into the default attack?`
`22:55.51`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I mean literally attacks. does 1x weapon damage and then puts the unit in holdfire`
`22:55.57`	`Lazbro`	`so your want your normal attack to, aside from attacking, stops your unit.`
`22:56.04`	`Lazbro`	`that was what I was hinting at :p`
`22:56.08`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`alright`
`22:56.15`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I still don't see where you are going with it, though`
`22:56.20`	`Lazbro`	`is your normal attack a simple damage or a missile?`
`22:56.43`	`Lazbro`	`ie. 'Find where it refers to your damage effect'`
`22:56.50`	`Lazbro`	`remember that reference.`
`22:56.55`	`Lazbro`	`make a new Set effect`
`22:56.56`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I am testing with an immortal, but eventually I'd like it to effect almost every unit`
`22:57.09`	`Lazbro`	`throw your damage effect in there as well as your new stop effect.`
`22:57.32`	`Lazbro`	`k under your weapon's Effect`
`22:57.41`	`Lazbro`	`instead of referring to Psi Blasters (Damage)`
`22:57.54`	`Lazbro`	`refer to a new set effect that contains Psi Blasters (Damage) and your stop effect.`
`22:58.02`	`Lazbro`	`don't replace Damage Display Effect.`
`22:58.21`	`Lazbro`	`that way when your unit shoots it will both do damage and tell itself to halt.`
`22:59.43`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`alright`
`22:59.45`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`lets try it`
`23:00.55`	`Lazbro`	`if you're editing a weapon with a missile, instead of replacing the effect directly at the weapon, replace it at the launch missile effect.`
`23:01.08`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`alright`
`23:01.09`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`thanks`
`23:01.32`	`RodOfNOD`	`any cheats like greedisgood etc?`
`23:02.07`	`Lazbro`	`stop cheating lol`
`23:02.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`helpful in testing`
`23:02.40`	`Helral`	`Rod: add them into the map yourself for testing ;p`
`23:02.58`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Getting an error`
`23:03.03`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`with the attack`
`23:03.05`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`might be my fault`
`23:03.12`	`RodOfNOD`	`how would i do a warpten`
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`23:03.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`cheat`
`23:03.17`	`Lazbro`	`I have in both of my maps a boolean 'boolDeveloperMode' that turns on anything I want :p`
`23:03.36`	`Vulfe`	`cheater`
`23:03.38`	`Lazbro`	`P_R_Deltoid: error = your set has no valid targets`
`23:03.38`	`Vulfe`	`stop`
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`23:03.53`	`Lazbro`	`it's not a cheat, it's dev mode :p`
`23:04.00`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`no valid targets, eh`
`23:04.01`	`MindWorX	`A bool? That hardly sounds effective :P So how many of your triggers have "if(boolDeveloperMode) {" ? :P`
`23:04.14`	`Lazbro`	`1. :p`
`23:04.36`	`Lazbro`	`if I need extra money the dev trigger gives that.`
`23:04.42`	`Helral`	`several of my triggers are setup for easier testing. ;p`
`23:04.47`	`Lazbro`	`makes units invulnerable, changes game duration etc`
`23:04.49`	`Lazbro`	`:p`
`23:04.56`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok but how would i triggger all upgrades builds etc take zero secs?`
`23:05.01`	`Helral`	`and I disable it with ctrl+i ;p`
`23:05.20`	`RodOfNOD`	`ie warpten`
`23:05.41`	`Lazbro`	`dunno, but there are events and actions for upgrades`
`23:05.42`	`Helral`	`any construction/research started: set completion state to 99%. ;p`
`23:05.56`	`RodOfNOD`	`k let me try that`
`23:06.00`	`Helral`	`or to 100 ;p`
`23:06.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`well, ran into a problem. He will autoacquite units he walks next to, and changing the Weapon Options flags to have Can Initiate Attack off produce an error`
`23:06.21`	`slightlyrandom`	`99.99%`
`23:06.44`	`Lazbro`	`unit -> acquire / response -> set to none in both cases`
`23:06.54`	`Lazbro`	`the advantage of a boolean is that in the rush just after release when you're trying to beat popularity sort, there's less risk of screwing up and forgetting something.`
`23:07.27`	`Lazbro`	`does anyone know btw how to edit those 'error' messages you get when a validator fails?`
`23:08.05`	`Lazbro`	`it asks you for the location of the error string, but it's not a dropdown so I have no idea, and I still can't ADD any (like 'must target a player with more than 100 minerals')`
`23:08.12`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Lazbro, super perfect`
`23:08.14`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`thanks :>`
`23:08.16`	`Lazbro`	`<3`
`23:08.40`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Now, just a quick question, but do you think I could make it so a unit will not be commandable while moving through the DE`
`23:08.44`	`Lazbro`	`DE?`
`23:08.47`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Data editor`
`23:08.48`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`sorry`
`23:08.48`	`Helral`	`Lazbro: go look at the text editor bit. something like e_cmd.... stuff.`
`23:08.57`	`Lazbro`	`Helral: ok`
`23:09.06`	`Lazbro`	`can you actually add strings in the text editor? I never found out how`
`23:09.23`	`Lazbro`	`P_R_Deltoid: how can a unit move through the data editor?`
`23:09.24`	`Helral`	`dunno but you can alter existing ones ;)`
`23:09.30`	`Lazbro`	`Helral: that's useless :p`
`23:09.34`	`Vulfe`	`you can set a text to a string`
`23:09.43`	`Helral`	`so if you find one that isn't used you can change it to the value you want and use it.`
`23:09.46`	`Vulfe`	`well`
`23:09.48`	`Vulfe`	`to script, at least`
`23:09.50`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I mean, add to the Move command that, while the unit is moving in-game, the unit is uncommandable`
`23:09.58`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Currently, I am doing it with triggers, turning it on and off`
`23:10.09`	`Lazbro`	`while it's moving...`
`23:10.10`	`Lazbro`	`hmm`
`23:10.10`	`Vulfe`	`if there is a buff state`
`23:10.12`	`Vulfe`	`you could use that`
`23:10.17`	`Lazbro`	`there's a validator for moving I think`
`23:10.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`ty helral interesting that 100% fails`
`23:10.40`	`Lazbro`	`I don't know by heart which validator it is`
`23:10.42`	`Lazbro`	`but it exists`
`23:10.51`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`there are quite a few @_@`
`23:10.55`	`Lazbro`	`search for mov`
`23:11.00`	`Lazbro`	`or mot`
`23:11.00`	`Vulfe`	`you could make a dummy buff state`
`23:11.03`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`yeah, there are like 15`
`23:11.03`	`Vulfe`	`if there's one for that`
`23:11.07`	`Lazbro`	`hmm`
`23:11.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Vulfe, what do you mean`
`23:11.24`	`Lazbro`	`how does overlord creep turn itself off?`
`23:11.30`	`Vulfe`	`idk if you can do this, but you might be able to make a unit uncommandable via buff`
`23:11.32`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`the data editor is very very confusing for me`
`23:11.39`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`lots of webs and stuff, lots of connections to make`
`23:11.41`	`Vulfe`	`but that wouldn't really help I guess`
`23:11.49`	`Lazbro`	`or look at the khala shadows actor and see if you can learn some vocabulary from its events you can search on`
`23:12.14`	`Lazbro`	`(the actor that makes templars leave those ugly shadows when they move only)`
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`23:12.59`	`Vulfe`	`I still find it funny that the HT's cape is a wiggle bone`
`23:13.02`	`Vulfe`	`wiggle wiggle`
`23:13.36`	`Lazbro`	`I find it less funny that the HT is a night elf wearing mage raid shoulders and cape`
`23:13.46`	`Lazbro`	`also, goat hooves and no pants.`
`23:13.50`	`Lazbro`	`so... WoW Cernunnos.`
`23:13.53`	`Vulfe`	`lol`
`23:13.55`	`Vulfe`	`tru`
`23:14.24`	`Lazbro`	`they put so little effort into this unit that they originally forgot the shadows, and when they were finally added they were in that obvious 128/128/255 blue`
`23:15.01`	`Vulfe`	`Why are there no toggle abilities in the entire game except for cloaking`
`23:15.01`	`Vulfe`	`jesus`
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`23:15.30`	`Helral`	`Vulfe: that Overlords creepdropping ability is also toggle isn't it?`
`23:15.41`	`Vulfe`	`oh!`
`23:15.42`	`Vulfe`	`it is`
`23:16.02`	`Vulfe`	`I guess what I'm really looking for is self-target instant-use anyway`
`23:16.09`	`RodOfNOD`	`pirate are u there?`
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`23:16.16`	`pirate`	`jah`
`23:16.18`	`RodOfNOD`	`i just stacked stimpack no problem`
`23:16.23`	`Lazbro`	`how to improve the look of this unit tenfold: increase Z scale to 1.1, slightly increase height, add Simple actor that sets opacity to 0.8 and when moving gradually fades out to 0.5 and back to 0.8 when it stops, add a slight (!) blue tint, and add the disruption web or psi storm model as an attachment to SOpAttachCenter scaled to ~0.5/0.5/1`
`23:16.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`so i know u can stack speed`
`23:16.32`	`pirate`	`right`
`23:16.38`	`RodOfNOD`	`its hilarious when u do it too`
`23:16.39`	`pirate`	`not via the multiplier`
`23:16.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`FieldMarine - Stimpack`
`23:16.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`Stats - Maximum Stack Count99`
`23:16.58`	`RodOfNOD`	`thats all i changed`
`23:17.07`	`Vulfe`	`Is it possible for me to make an ability of the type "Effect - Instant" that just targets the casting unit?`
`23:17.25`	`Lazbro`	`http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8586/levi.png`
`23:17.37`	`Vulfe`	`low-res`
`23:17.38`	`Vulfe`	`refund`
`23:17.40`	`Lazbro`	`Vulfe: yes, if the effect it calls has as target Source or Origin`
`23:17.45`	`Vulfe`	`ohh`
`23:17.49`	`Vulfe`	`I thought it might be that`
`23:17.55`	`Vulfe`	`damn I wish this was like wc3 sometimes`
`23:18.00`	`Lazbro`	`yeap, the target for your ability is in the effect and not in the ability!`
`23:18.02`	`Lazbro`	`Vulfe: 8800 GTS lol`
`23:18.27`	`Helral`	`that's a crappy looking image...`
`23:18.34`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`are you sure the shadow is only generated when they move?`
`23:18.39`	`Lazbro`	`yep`
`23:18.52`	`Vulfe`	`8700M GT`
`23:18.56`	`Vulfe`	`on a laptop`
`23:18.58`	`Vulfe`	`suck it`
`23:19.01`	`Lazbro`	`v_v`
`23:19.08`	`Lazbro`	`yes and is it playable in 4v4?`
`23:19.14`	`Vulfe`	`mmhmm`
`23:19.20`	`Lazbro`	`also, it's an editor screen :p`
`23:19.31`	`Vulfe`	`oh`
`23:19.34`	`Vulfe`	`that'd do it`
`23:19.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`The high temp doesn't have a shadow actor :<`
`23:19.38`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`well`
`23:19.42`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`not an obvious one`
`23:19.44`	`Lazbro`	`also there's a sort of green missile thing with wavy green tentacles associated with the infestor, which you can flatten and attach to a unit's center for TYRAEL TENTACLE WINGS`
`23:19.47`	`Vulfe`	`I have 2GB of HD space left`
`23:19.48`	`Vulfe`	`lolz`
`23:19.49`	`Lazbro`	`P_R_Deltoid: search for 'shadow'`
`23:19.54`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I did`
`23:20.02`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I found High Templar Shadow (Unnamed)`
`23:20.06`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`which helped very very little`
`23:20.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`because none of it's events deal with moving`
`23:20.12`	`Lazbro`	`well that one`
`23:20.20`	`Vulfe`	`Are "Source" and "Caster" any different in my context?`
`23:20.32`	`Vulfe`	`also, I just ate a huge fucking calzone`
`23:20.35`	`Vulfe`	`it was delicious`
`23:20.42`	`Lazbro`	`it's on the forum I thnk`
`23:20.42`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`oh oh`
`23:20.45`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I fo und something`
`23:20.51`	`Lazbro`	`good night all`
`23:21.03`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Unit MovementUpdate`
`23:21.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`If only I knew wtf to do with that, haha`
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`23:24.46`	`Alpha_vst`	`sigh`
`23:24.57`	`RedWraith`	`sigh all you want Alpha`
`23:25.00`	`RedWraith`	`it wont change anything`
`23:26.06`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok so i want to add an ability or remove one when i choose add.remove behavior it does jack any ideas? talking trigger`
`23:26.38`	`pirate`	`ack, how do i make it so abilities with targets can only target units (as opposed to the ground?)`
`23:26.52`	`Helral`	`Rod: the problem is that the ability isn't listed in the command card ;p`
`23:27.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`ok so how do i add it to the card?`
`23:27.30`	`Helral`	`if add ability is possible (which it is afaik).`
`23:27.39`	`Alpha_vst`	`i know`
`23:27.40`	`RedWraith`	`~seen tehwildcard`
`23:27.41`	`purl`	`tehwildcard is currently on #sc2mapster (5h 10m 51s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 2h 27m 26s, last said: 'I just joined the Supreme Court... so..'.`
`23:27.45`	`Alpha_vst`	`its just frustrating`
`23:27.58`	`Helral`	`hmmmm....`
`23:27.58`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`take pictures`
`23:28.29`	`RodOfNOD`	`as far as i can tell Helral there is no add ability to unit`
`23:28.31`	`RodOfNOD`	`only behavior`
`23:28.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`and i tried to remove an existing behavior ie stim from the marine and nothing happened`
`23:29.39`	`Helral`	`the stimpack behavior is the stimpack effect, not stimpack ability.`
`23:29.50`	`RodOfNOD`	`agreed`
`23:29.54`	`RodOfNOD`	`so it removed the effect`
`23:29.55`	`RedWraith`	`wait, you can't give units abilities?`
`23:29.56`	`RodOfNOD`	`which is fine`
`23:29.59`	`RedWraith`	`That seems off for some reason...`
`23:30.02`	`RedWraith`	`not sure why...`
`23:30.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`but i want to add a ability`
`23:30.17`	`RedWraith`	`Is there a way to simply hide the ability?`
`23:30.26`	`RodOfNOD`	`i cant believe the entire mod system isnt screaming how can u do jack without adding abilities via trigger`
`23:30.48`	`Helral`	`there is a show/hide ability action.... hmmmm`
`23:31.10`	`RedWraith`	`wait, wait, wait`
`23:31.14`	`RedWraith`	`but you could add abilities`
`23:31.16`	`RedWraith`	`in Warcraft 3`
`23:31.21`	`RedWraith`	`I remember custom hero maps`
`23:31.27`	`RedWraith`	`that were based on that notion`
`23:31.27`	`RodOfNOD`	`of course`
`23:31.30`	`Helral`	`yes you could add abilities in wc3.`
`23:31.39`	`RedWraith`	`so, you can't do it in sc2?`
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`23:32.03`	`Helral`	`haven't seen anything that would make it possible in sc2. but I'll find out in due time.`
`23:32.11`	`Alpha_vst`	`i tried showing and hiding`
`23:32.12`	`Helral`	`since my map will need that as well. the adding of abilities.`
`23:32.14`	`Alpha_vst`	`it didnt work`
`23:32.26`	`Alpha_vst`	`you can disable`
`23:32.27`	`Helral`	`for showing/hiding the ability already needs to be available to the unit.`
`23:32.30`	`RodOfNOD`	`k well hide worked`
`23:32.38`	`Alpha_vst`	`how did you make hide work?`
`23:32.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`now lets see what happens if u show on a unit that doesnt have the ability`
`23:32.42`	`Alpha_vst`	`QQ`
`23:32.46`	`RodOfNOD`	`it worked`
`23:32.50`	`Helral`	`O.o`
`23:32.51`	`RodOfNOD`	`it hid stimpack`
`23:32.54`	`Helral`	`ow`
`23:32.56`	`Alpha_vst`	`how?`
`23:33.03`	`Helral`	`lol yeah I'd expect that hide would work.`
`23:33.14`	`RodOfNOD`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:33.16`	`Helral`	`and show would reveal an ability that was there but hidden.`
`23:33.17`	`RedWraith`	`wait, so`
`23:33.18`	`Alpha_vst`	`oh`
`23:33.18`	`RedWraith`	`we have to`
`23:33.21`	`RedWraith`	`give every unit`
`23:33.23`	`RedWraith`	`all of the abilities?`
`23:33.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`pre add all abilites`
`23:33.26`	`RedWraith`	`wooooowwwwww`
`23:33.28`	`RedWraith`	`that sucks`
`23:33.35`	`Helral`	`yup`
`23:33.49`	`RodOfNOD`	`problem though`
`23:33.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`only 32 abilities period`
`23:33.56`	`RodOfNOD`	`that is huge problemo`
`23:33.57`	`Alpha_vst`	`yeah :P`
`23:33.57`	`RedWraith`	`ruh roh`
`23:34.04`	`RodOfNOD`	`how do u do item stuff`
`23:34.06`	`RedWraith`	`There has to be a way around this. :P`
`23:34.45`	`RodOfNOD`	`of course u could have 4 levels of command cards but not sure how that would work`
`23:36.22`	`Helral`	`well you could always use catalogs.`
`23:36.25`	`RodOfNOD`	`hmm well show didnt magically make it work on an ability u didng have`
`23:36.28`	`RodOfNOD`	`explain?`
`23:36.31`	`Helral`	`different unit per player.`
`23:36.41`	`RodOfNOD`	`?`
`23:36.51`	`Helral`	`with catalogs you can adjust unit type information during runtime. or you should be able to.`
`23:36.54`	`MindWorX	`It doesn't sound like SC2 complicates simple things AT ALL`
`23:36.56`	`MindWorX	`:P`
`23:37.41`	`Helral`	`it should allow you to do everything that you can do with the data editor, but then while the game is running.`
`23:37.52`	`RodOfNOD`	`attempts to do so`
`23:37.53`	`RedWraith`	`Where do I even modify these catalogs?`
`23:37.58`	`Helral`	`but I don't know the specifics about the catalog stuff.`
`23:38.02`	`RodOfNOD`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:38.34`	`RodOfNOD`	`are u saying its gona change the info on the fly ooooh now THAT would be bosss`
`23:39.55`	`RodOfNOD`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/1250-triggers-catalog-field-value-get-set/`
`23:41.45`	`RedWraith`	`Set Unit Variation`
`23:41.51`	`RedWraith`	`has always been interesting to me`
`23:41.57`	`RedWraith`	`since it has a field for texture`
`23:42.02`	`Alpha_vst`	`really?`
`23:42.40`	`RedWraith`	`Yes.`
`23:42.45`	`RedWraith`	`I have no idea how it works, though.`
`23:43.27`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`If a unit is uncommandable, and I right click on a unit during that (attacking it) does that count as an issued order or just nothing?`
`23:44.55`	`Helral`	`when you have it selected?`
`23:45.01`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Yes`
`23:45.01`	`RedWraith`	`You know, at a certain point, it'd probably be more practical for someone to just write a function with this catalog shit that replaces an ability for a unit type.`
`23:45.04`	`RedWraith`	`Though, that concerns me`
`23:45.11`	`RedWraith`	`if it's unit type and not the individual unit.`
`23:45.13`	`RedWraith`	`:X`
`23:45.42`	`Helral`	`P_R: it will be handled as a smart command, which would use an issue command. It should throw an error: this unit can't be commanded. or something.`
`23:46.47`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`So it shouldn't trigger a trigger that's event is "On Command Move"`
`23:47.12`	`Helral`	`hmmmm I think not, but it might.`
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`23:48.16`	`Helral`	`hmmm I think it would trigger 1 of the 5 stages that a generic command has.`
`23:48.36`	`Helral`	`well actually 2 I forgot the any stage.`
`23:49.05`	`Helral`	`the Any and Queue stage of the ability use command will probably be triggered.`
`23:50.11`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Is there any way to get the position of the mouse on the world grid`
`23:50.13`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`without clicking`
`23:50.19`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`just passively`
`23:50.20`	`Helral`	`not afaik.`
`23:50.40`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`:<`
`23:50.46`	`Helral`	`I only know of the 2 mouse positions in response to a click.`
`23:50.54`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Yeah`
`23:50.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Well that sucks`
`23:52.28`	`Sixen`	`It does =\|`
`23:52.47`	`Helral`	`it lives O.o`
`23:52.51`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Ugh well there goes my idea`
`23:52.55`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`completely out the window`
`23:52.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`woosh`
`23:52.59`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`watch it go`
`23:53.11`	`Fatal5101`	`it flew out the window`
`23:53.12`	`Fatal5101`	`with jets`
`23:53.26`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Rocket jets`
`23:53.31`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and then crashed and burned`
`23:53.35`	`Fatal5101`	`dang`
`23:53.38`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`really really quickly because of all the rocket fuel`
`23:53.40`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`yeah`
`23:53.42`	`Helral`	`what was your plan?`
`23:53.48`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DarkPrince (~electra@adsl-76-241-79-151.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net)`
`23:53.50`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Something similar to FO Tactics or Jagged Alliance`
`23:54.00`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Semi turn based tactical stuff`
`23:54.03`	`Helral`	`hmmmm?`
`23:54.12`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`the plan that involved that is point estimation of moves`
`23:54.14`	`Helral`	`you can detect mouseovers on dialog buttons.`
`23:54.14`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`before the move is complete`
`23:54.34`	`Helral`	`just make it completely with dialogs ;p`
`23:54.40`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`what do you mean?`
`23:54.44`	`Helral`	`hehehe ;p`
`23:54.56`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`it's not a box-like isometric thing, it'd be free flowing`
`23:55.01`	`Helral`	`hmmmm`
`23:55.08`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but with a point system to determine what is allowed to move where and how far`
`23:55.32`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but even then, distance between two points doesn't cover it because moving around a cliff would only require like 2 points, but could effectively be moving equivilant to like 30`
`23:55.32`	`TheLaughingMan`	`Sixen`
`23:55.37`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`going up and around the top of the cliff and everything`
`23:55.53`	`Sixen`	`yes`
`23:56.08`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`but the thing is, I can't estimate what the cost of amove will be before it is made, taking out most of the tactical element and making it just a crap rts with stupid mechanics`
`23:56.10`	`TheLaughingMan`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4431-misc-converting-eve-online-models-for-sc2/`
`23:56.34`	`RedWraith`	`Why would you want EVE online models`
`23:56.36`	`RedWraith`	`for sc2?`
`23:56.39`	`RedWraith`	`I don't even understand.`
`23:56.45`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I could see how it would help spaceship games`
`23:56.52`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`or cinematics`
`23:56.59`	`TheLaughingMan`	`The models are cool`
`23:57.02`	`Sixen`	`Nice TLM, i'll stick it in the news`
`23:58.31`	`Helral`	`hmmmmm....`
`23:58.36`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`and no moving dialogs yet either, huh`
`23:58.46`	`Helral`	`what do you mean with moving dialogs?`
`23:58.57`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`like being able to update a dialogs position to follow something`
`23:59.04`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`or even a legit way to move a dialog around in a smooth way`
`23:59.06`	`Helral`	`why is that not possible?`
`23:59.08`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`like text above a character head`
`23:59.13`	`RodOfNOD`	`OMG this is is the holy grail`
`23:59.16`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`Not... sure`
`23:59.17`	`Alpha_vst`	`thats a text tag`
`23:59.18`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`maybe it is`
`23:59.19`	`Helral`	`Text Tag --> set to unit.`
`23:59.20`	`Alpha_vst`	`not a dialog`
`23:59.24`	`RodOfNOD`	`catalog solves all the problems i have been wanting to solve`
`23:59.25`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`I know`
`23:59.28`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`But I mean LIKe that`
`23:59.36`	`Alpha_vst`	`you can attach a dialog to a unit`
`23:59.37`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`following it around by being anchored to it's position with a slight offset`
`23:59.40`	`P_R_Deltoid`	`you can?!`
`23:59.41`	`Alpha_vst`	`rr text tag\`
`23:59.45`	`Alpha_vst`	`err`
`23:59.53`	`Helral`	`Dialogs are based on the window, not on the world.`

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