| 00:00.30 | casperb | Hm servers are up |
| 00:00.40 | casperb | Just no patch available |
| 00:01.22 | Lilianna | :| Missing something |
| 00:01.38 | Lilianna | my Mineral building isnt counted as a resource yet.. nor has a mineral count |
| 00:01.56 | casperb | based on resource class? |
| 00:02.01 | Lilianna | yup |
| 00:02.20 | Azoreo | @Casperb - thinking beta will return this week? |
| 00:02.46 | casperb | Well 2 days ago the servers diddn't respond, now you get a wrong version error instead |
| 00:02.58 | casperb | So, I'm hoping, need some gaming! :P |
| 00:03.11 | casperb | Also i can continue development |
| 00:03.34 | ProzaicMuze | @Azoreo - because it's a template |
| 00:04.14 | ProzaicMuze | As I mentioned, this can quickly be changed into a healing chain, a damage chain, a buff chain, a debuff chain etc |
| 00:04.22 | ProzaicMuze | It's setup to do just about anything you need it to do |
| 00:04.34 | ProzaicMuze | And if I DIDN'T include it in the tutorial, peopel would late ask how to do it |
| 00:04.42 | ProzaicMuze | So I show both in order to let people know how to do both. |
| 00:04.48 | ProzaicMuze | If you don't need one of them, you can toss 'em :) |
| 00:04.58 | ProzaicMuze | Similar to the death models |
| 00:05.24 | wOlfLinG | Ty proz! Its fixed :D. Just need to work out whats wrong with the offsets now :/ |
| 00:05.28 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 00:05.32 | ProzaicMuze | you need to move the offsets closer |
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| 00:05.48 | ProzaicMuze | and half of the offsets need to be moved to the rigth side anchor vs all of them on the left side anchor |
| 00:07.10 | wOlfLinG | Tbh, your tut doesnt say how to specify it. Or if it does, im too tired to see it (1am here) |
| 00:07.56 | depthsofchaos | is it possible to refer to editor created points dynamically ? |
| 00:08.03 | wOlfLinG | Wait, no, found it |
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| 00:09.00 | Lilianna | Dinner times! |
| 00:09.12 | Tehwildcard | http://www.break.com/index/microsoft-vs-java-trailer.html |
| 00:09.42 | wOlfLinG | sleep teim nao... zzzzzzz |
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| 00:13.37 | axlyin | AFJAFJAKSFJAKSDJFAKSJFAKLSDFJKLJ! |
| 00:14.04 | axlyin | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 >.> |
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| 00:14.10 | RedWraith | RELAX |
| 00:14.19 | RedWraith | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 00:14.20 | purl | tehwildcard is currently on #sc2mapster (5m 40s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 5m 8s, last said: 'http://www.break.com/index/microsoft-vs-java-trailer.html'. |
| 00:14.21 | Tehwildcard | Ignorance |
| 00:14.24 | Tehwildcard | You're an idiot |
| 00:14.30 | Tehwildcard | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzza-ZbEY70&has_verified=1 |
| 00:14.32 | Tehwildcard | watch that though |
| 00:14.36 | Tehwildcard | I almost cried |
| 00:14.52 | axlyin | I wish i could |
| 00:14.53 | axlyin | but currently my internet is slower than a 56k modem |
| 00:15.01 | axlyin | till monday |
| 00:15.04 | Tehwildcard | Kill it |
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| 00:15.16 | axlyin | my modem is my cell phone lol |
| 00:15.23 | PoC | sup |
| 00:15.30 | axlyin | i have a 5gb download limit, once I hit it, my net goes like a snail |
| 00:15.51 | axlyin | and I torrented all 3 seasons of Avatar: The Last Airbender |
| 00:16.03 | axlyin | sooooooooooo now I have sucky net till monday |
| 00:16.24 | axlyin | unless my actual modem finally gets here tomorrow..... damn ISP fail. |
| 00:18.26 | PoC | where would I find out about attaching variables to certain units? |
| 00:18.26 | RedWraith | It's...it's beautiful. |
| 00:18.27 | RedWraith | I love it. |
| 00:19.09 | Tehwildcard | I made most of the unicorn mode |
| 00:19.15 | RedWraith | axlyin, why would you download all three seasons in one month if you know you have a download limit? |
| 00:19.15 | Tehwildcard | I dont know how to make it different though |
| 00:19.16 | RedWraith | Nice. |
| 00:19.24 | Tehwildcard | other than rainbow theme |
| 00:19.28 | Tehwildcard | de |
| 00:19.38 | RedWraith | Make it about breaking through stars and collectiong pixies. |
| 00:19.38 | axlyin | because i didn't know i had a download limit :D |
| 00:19.46 | RedWraith | Have stars spawn randomly instead of fires. :O |
| 00:19.58 | Tehwildcard | But they would just be static stars |
| 00:20.04 | Tehwildcard | which would look like shit |
| 00:20.29 | RedWraith | also, will this all fit in 10 mb? |
| 00:20.29 | RedWraith | lol |
| 00:20.35 | Tehwildcard | probably not |
| 00:20.40 | Tehwildcard | I have to add the song too xD |
| 00:20.50 | RedWraith | yeah.... |
| 00:20.53 | Tehwildcard | I got it though |
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| 00:21.02 | Tehwildcard | More pictures! and they start filling up the screen |
| 00:21.12 | Tehwildcard | as time goes on |
| 00:21.27 | RedWraith | You realize triggers take up space too? :P\ |
| 00:21.32 | Tehwildcard | meh |
| 00:21.51 | Tehwildcard | So you think I should drop the 1080p video? |
| 00:21.51 | rrowland | WTB data storage in XMLs |
| 00:22.48 | Tehwildcard | I'm only at 6MB with song + new images I put in Ignorance |
| 00:22.51 | depthsofchaos | it would be cool if you could unlock storage if your maps get played :o |
| 00:23.03 | Tehwildcard | Or if they could just stop being cheap bastards |
| 00:23.05 | Tehwildcard | either or |
| 00:23.18 | depthsofchaos | or donate storage option xD |
| 00:23.30 | Tehwildcard | Ugh dont give them ideas |
| 00:23.46 | Tehwildcard | "Click here to pay for more storage space" "It could boost your map!" |
| 00:24.11 | depthsofchaos | i mean from others who dont use it :p |
| 00:24.19 | Tehwildcard | axlyin did you see the Avatar movie? < Last airbender |
| 00:24.29 | Tehwildcard | Don't if you haven't |
| 00:24.30 | Tehwildcard | it blows |
| 00:24.32 | axlyin | no |
| 00:24.36 | axlyin | i'm watching it tonight |
| 00:24.49 | axlyin | were you a fan of the series? |
| 00:24.50 | Tehwildcard | They pronounce Aang like Ahng |
| 00:24.52 | Tehwildcard | yeah |
| 00:25.11 | axlyin | answer 1 question for me |
| 00:25.17 | axlyin | is the movie only season 1? |
| 00:25.23 | Tehwildcard | yeah book 1 |
| 00:25.26 | Tehwildcard | water |
| 00:25.27 | axlyin | sweet |
| 00:25.38 | Tehwildcard | lol I thought the same thing when they showed that |
| 00:25.42 | axlyin | I was hoping they didn't try to cram all 3 into 1 movie |
| 00:25.46 | Tehwildcard | but they still tried to cram so much into it |
| 00:25.58 | Tehwildcard | and they added random scenes which were irrelevant to the story |
| 00:25.58 | axlyin | they took out the female warrior tribe >< |
| 00:26.00 | Tehwildcard | you'll see |
| 00:26.11 | Tehwildcard | They took out...everything |
| 00:26.21 | axlyin | ironically enough, the female tribe was fully recorded |
| 00:26.43 | axlyin | and apparently shamalan's favs |
| 00:26.56 | axlyin | so for some dumb f****ing reason he took em out |
| 00:26.58 | Tehwildcard | People were bitching they left it at a cliffhanger... but if they tried to do the entire story |
| 00:27.10 | axlyin | it's supposed to have a cliffhanger |
| 00:27.22 | Tehwildcard | Like if I didn't watch the series I would have no clue what was going on |
| 00:27.23 | axlyin | it will end up being 3 movies |
| 00:27.24 | rrowland | Isn't that anime? |
| 00:27.30 | axlyin | lol |
| 00:27.32 | Tehwildcard | They jump all over the place |
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| 00:27.37 | axlyin | it's not technically anime |
| 00:27.40 | Tehwildcard | The series was anime/cartoon |
| 00:27.44 | axlyin | it's america |
| 00:27.45 | axlyin | n |
| 00:27.46 | Tehwildcard | movie was live action |
| 00:27.49 | Tehwildcard | brb |
| 00:28.55 | Tehwildcard | It had me wishing I watched twilight instead |
| 00:29.04 | Tehwildcard | Thats how bad :P |
| 00:29.40 | Tehwildcard | Going out to eat though, Ignorance I'll send you map tonight |
| 00:30.47 | RedWraith | kk] |
| 00:30.54 | Fatal5101 | REDWRAITH! |
| 00:30.58 | RedWraith | What? |
| 00:31.00 | Fatal5101 | hi |
| 00:31.04 | RedWraith | Sup. |
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| 00:32.47 | axlyin | I like twilight :p |
| 00:32.47 | axlyin | lol |
| 00:34.35 | RedWraith | rrowland, it's American afaik. |
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| 00:35.23 | RedWraith | To be fair, if anything should be made into a movie, it's MEGAS XLR |
| 00:35.28 | RedWraith | That was the greatest series ever. |
| 00:35.51 | Phaos | is the distance at which a unit collides with it's surroundings, the "inner radius" on the units movment section ? |
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| 00:38.44 | depthsofchaos | no its radius |
| 00:40.48 | ProzaicMuze | yay |
| 00:40.52 | ProzaicMuze | vidayoh ish done! |
| 00:41.46 | ProzaicMuze | so much effort for 2mins of video :( |
| 00:41.59 | depthsofchaos | maan xD |
| 00:42.11 | depthsofchaos | how did you manage it |
| 00:43.01 | ProzaicMuze | I hacked teh universe and said GIMME NAOW |
| 00:43.05 | ProzaicMuze | and of course it said ok |
| 00:43.12 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrIMhatLBOs |
| 00:43.18 | ProzaicMuze | but that's what I had to make |
| 00:43.23 | ProzaicMuze | so vjeux would be happy with my creature |
| 00:43.25 | ProzaicMuze | contest thing |
| 00:45.22 | depthsofchaos | looks great |
| 00:45.46 | depthsofchaos | wouldnt want to meet those guys o |
| 00:46.06 | ProzaicMuze | kinda op lol |
| 00:46.12 | ProzaicMuze | they're more like a boss unit |
| 00:46.27 | ProzaicMuze | But the idea was to cover a wide range of weapon implementations with one unit |
| 00:46.35 | ProzaicMuze | to spur up ideas for other people to put in entries |
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| 00:48.11 | depthsofchaos | im too lazy to enter :p |
| 00:48.37 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 00:48.42 | ProzaicMuze | just throw something together! |
| 00:49.07 | depthsofchaos | i still got like 15 cannons that i have to throw together :o |
| 00:49.10 | ProzaicMuze | Everyone else: 1-month Curse Premium |
| 00:49.12 | ProzaicMuze | free stuff! |
| 00:49.12 | rrowland | Got my font to work :P http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/513/29212198.jpg |
| 00:49.28 | ProzaicMuze | awesome rrowland :D |
| 00:49.30 | depthsofchaos | i already got 14 month premium :p |
| 00:49.36 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
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| 00:49.50 | ProzaicMuze | What exactly is premium for anyways? |
| 00:49.56 | ProzaicMuze | Like what do we get out of it that we didn't have before? |
| 00:49.58 | ProzaicMuze | Still unclear on that |
| 00:50.07 | LordAbyss | so by just submitting some decently made custom unit |
| 00:50.10 | depthsofchaos | nothing rly unless youre a wow nerd |
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| 00:50.13 | LordAbyss | i get 1 month of premium? |
| 00:50.18 | Spoofed | Hey |
| 00:50.19 | ProzaicMuze | aye Abyss |
| 00:50.22 | LordAbyss | sweet |
| 00:50.25 | Spoofed | Does patching work? |
| 00:50.28 | LordAbyss | means i can download all my addons at once |
| 00:50.33 | depthsofchaos | looks good rowland |
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| 00:50.48 | depthsofchaos | i want to see the game next we, we clear? |
| 00:50.54 | depthsofchaos | weak |
| 00:51.09 | Spoofed | Does patching sc2 still work? |
| 00:51.29 | ProzaicMuze | no idea |
| 00:51.30 | ProzaicMuze | haven't tried |
| 00:51.31 | LordAbyss | hey pro, are you going to make stuff with the data editor like this? http://www.youtube.com/user/slypoos#p/u/0/H5tblQ-ZuXQ |
| 00:51.35 | LordAbyss | not exactly the same unit |
| 00:51.37 | LordAbyss | but that complex |
| 00:51.38 | Spoofed | Crap |
| 00:52.04 | Spoofed | Guess I'll have to go without GE till sc2 comes out then |
| 00:52.05 | Spoofed | >.> |
| 00:53.42 | ProzaicMuze | lmfao definitely not abyss |
| 00:53.47 | ProzaicMuze | mainly because it's impractical |
| 00:53.55 | LordAbyss | well |
| 00:53.58 | ProzaicMuze | however I "could" if you have a specific instance you wanted it |
| 00:54.01 | ProzaicMuze | like a boss fight |
| 00:54.09 | ProzaicMuze | But I just don't see a lot of spinning air rings being useful Xp |
| 00:54.14 | LordAbyss | i mean that stuff blows my mind, just the complexity of data editor abilities |
| 00:54.21 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 00:54.29 | LordAbyss | well im not talking about the ability itself but how complex it seems to me |
| 00:54.32 | ProzaicMuze | Well, making that is about as complex as making the Uberlisk and its abilities |
| 00:54.33 | LordAbyss | via data editor |
| 00:54.37 | ProzaicMuze | It's just a different part of the editor :) |
| 00:54.37 | depthsofchaos | its not complex at all |
| 00:54.47 | depthsofchaos | constructed from basic stuff like all ability |
| 00:54.52 | depthsofchaos | just has 10x more |
| 00:54.56 | depthsofchaos | for eye candy |
| 00:55.11 | LordAbyss | im still getting use to everything being "split" up in a sense |
| 00:55.17 | LordAbyss | multiple parts |
| 00:55.34 | LordAbyss | also use to using triggers for most complex abilities |
| 00:55.40 | ProzaicMuze | I've actually done anything for SC1 or WC3 so it's easier for me to integrate lol |
| 00:55.52 | ProzaicMuze | haven't done* |
| 00:55.58 | ProzaicMuze | gah |
| 00:56.01 | ProzaicMuze | I actually haven't done* |
| 00:56.02 | depthsofchaos | hmm i need to make a unit that can only attack in degrees multiple of 90 |
| 00:56.02 | LordAbyss | i used wc3 |
| 00:56.11 | LordAbyss | and thankfully the trigger editor is somewhat the same |
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| 01:00.42 | slightlyrandom | I give up |
| 01:00.49 | slightlyrandom | This data stuff is beyond me |
| 01:02.07 | Tehwildcard | Take a bat to it |
| 01:02.25 | slightlyrandom | Oh, I'm sorely tempted |
| 01:02.36 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 01:02.38 | ProzaicMuze | what do you give up on? |
| 01:02.47 | slightlyrandom | Spit creep ball missile thing |
| 01:03.03 | ProzaicMuze | is this that fire X distance thing? |
| 01:03.08 | slightlyrandom | Well |
| 01:03.13 | slightlyrandom | Fire straight ahead in an arc thing |
| 01:03.16 | slightlyrandom | Or without an arc |
| 01:03.19 | slightlyrandom | I dont care at this point |
| 01:03.30 | ProzaicMuze | try using period offsets |
| 01:03.31 | slightlyrandom | I just want it to not involve clicking |
| 01:03.48 | slightlyrandom | I'll have to watch a tutorial somewhere, or something |
| 01:03.51 | ProzaicMuze | Ability (Effect - Instant) > Create Persistent with offsets |
| 01:03.54 | Jcup | like parabola? |
| 01:04.16 | Jcup | Thatd be in the mover of the missile |
| 01:04.37 | slightlyrandom | naw, the problem is in the target |
| 01:04.55 | Jcup | ah ok |
| 01:05.01 | slightlyrandom | I dont know, I am so confused about what I have done and what ties in to what by now |
| 01:05.12 | slightlyrandom | Which things are broken? I have NO idea |
| 01:05.24 | slightlyrandom | I'll find a tutorial and start over |
| 01:05.40 | Phaos | how would I prevent a unit from playing it's standard attack animation when they use a particular weapon :S ? |
| 01:06.04 | slightlyrandom | Events |
| 01:06.13 | Phaos | wrong |
| 01:06.17 | slightlyrandom | Probably |
| 01:06.24 | Phaos | there are no attack orders in events+ |
| 01:06.30 | depthsofchaos | hmm any idea how to make a search effect only search behind the unit |
| 01:06.36 | Phaos | just like their are no walk orders |
| 01:06.51 | depthsofchaos | i could offset it but its just lame |
| 01:07.03 | ProzaicMuze | Phaos, the only way a unit animations is with events |
| 01:07.09 | ProzaicMuze | If your unit is still animating, it's because of events |
| 01:07.21 | depthsofchaos | wouldnt have the shape i want :o |
| 01:07.28 | ProzaicMuze | Either the unit's events, the attack actor's events or some other actor's events |
| 01:07.37 | ProzaicMuze | That or triggers. . . btu I didn't take you for a trigger fellah |
| 01:08.06 | Phaos | you see I want the spore launcher to go off with one attack, the standard attack animation with another, and the final attack animation with the infestor attackment |
| 01:08.10 | Phaos | attachment |
| 01:08.26 | ProzaicMuze | @depths as in a cone facing behind the unit? |
| 01:08.32 | ProzaicMuze | @Phaos, mmk, you can do that. |
| 01:08.34 | depthsofchaos | yep |
| 01:09.11 | ProzaicMuze | What is it you're trying to make? since it depends |
| 01:09.27 | Phaos | which one of us :P |
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| 01:10.56 | LordAbyss | you computer still hungry? |
| 01:11.13 | Jcup | Im... hungry :D |
| 01:12.10 | ProzaicMuze | that's at Depths |
| 01:12.18 | ProzaicMuze | for you, phaos, your actor events are mezzd up |
| 01:12.23 | ProzaicMuze | fiks it! |
| 01:12.38 | Phaos | doin |
| 01:12.38 | ProzaicMuze | @Abyss, not anymore. I whipped it into shape. Currently workin' on your heroes :) |
| 01:12.49 | depthsofchaos | i want to attack the unit i find there doesnt rly matter |
| 01:13.19 | LordAbyss | cool, let me know what you think of the map, i have some more texturing i should do. i will be back later |
| 01:13.59 | ProzaicMuze | mmk |
| 01:14.06 | axlyin | onetwo are you here? |
| 01:15.07 | ProzaicMuze | he is not |
| 01:15.13 | depthsofchaos | I wish it was possible to rotate while placing buildings :O |
| 01:15.27 | ProzaicMuze | agreed |
| 01:15.36 | depthsofchaos | would save me so much pain |
| 01:15.48 | Tehwildcard | ? |
| 01:15.49 | depthsofchaos | i have to make 4 unit for 1 building |
| 01:15.50 | depthsofchaos | 4 icon |
| 01:15.54 | depthsofchaos | 4 footprint |
| 01:15.56 | Tehwildcard | Just hold down shift and right click drag |
| 01:16.13 | Tehwildcard | *bets at least 3 people just tried that |
| 01:16.31 | depthsofchaos | i mean ingame build |
| 01:16.40 | Tehwildcard | oh |
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| 01:18.44 | allenmelon | random fun single player map? |
| 01:20.31 | Alpha_vst | WOOT |
| 01:20.57 | Alpha_vst | MY range revive abilty works for the most part |
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| 01:22.15 | Alpha_vst | I think later when i need to do something else i will make a dead unit model pack |
| 01:23.35 | Alpha_vst | if people want it that is :P |
| 01:24.13 | heysparky | I want a dead queen right now |
| 01:24.46 | Alpha_vst | what are you going to give me? |
| 01:24.52 | heysparky | my esteem |
| 01:25.04 | heysparky | and it's dinner time |
| 01:25.12 | heysparky | chow y'all |
| 01:25.14 | Alpha_vst | i charge naked pictures.... |
| 01:25.20 | Alpha_vst | kidding |
| 01:25.36 | heysparky | I can get you tons of naked pictures, just not of me |
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| 01:32.09 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 01:32.13 | ProzaicMuze | she offers naked pictures and then runs |
| 01:33.46 | TheLaughingMan | ? |
| 01:34.24 | TheLaughingMan | ProzaicMuze, how where the models? |
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| 01:36.11 | ProzaicMuze | I like :) |
| 01:36.19 | ProzaicMuze | not gonna use them yet since I want dem turrets |
| 01:36.21 | ProzaicMuze | but I like :D |
| 01:36.37 | ProzaicMuze | That and I should prolly finish my first map before veering off into a spaceship map Xp |
| 01:37.24 | TheLaughingMan | nah |
| 01:38.15 | Alpha_vst | fucking hell |
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| 01:38.49 | Alpha_vst | she better be happy fuck |
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| 01:40.22 | TheLaughingMan | I need help with modeling |
| 01:40.36 | Alpha_vst | with what? |
| 01:42.08 | Alpha_vst | not that im amazing or anything |
| 01:42.27 | TheLaughingMan | Well |
| 01:42.43 | TheLaughingMan | What does SC2 need for mapping |
| 01:43.31 | TheLaughingMan | Holy fuck ProzaicMuze |
| 01:43.57 | TheLaughingMan | So I found out the name used for a specific part on the Merlin |
| 01:45.13 | Alpha_vst | what do u mean mapping? |
| 01:45.40 | TheLaughingMan | Well I have some texture maps for models, but I need to know what is needed to make it work for SC2 |
| 01:45.58 | Alpha_vst | need to set it in the material editor? |
| 01:46.16 | TheLaughingMan | Meh |
| 01:46.22 | depthsofchaos | uv unwrap? |
| 01:46.28 | TheLaughingMan | forget it |
| 01:46.35 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:49.32 | allenmelon | random fun released single player map? |
| 01:49.38 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 01:52.07 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/file/open-close-save-save-as/ by johnm115 |
| 01:52.48 | Dustin| | Worms type map, you guys think that'd be badass? |
| 01:53.46 | depthsofchaos | depends how would you do the physics :o |
| 01:53.54 | allenmelon | kinda like gunbound? |
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| 01:59.15 | Phaos | I just cannot get the projectile on this weapon to launch. I can get sound effts, and the firing animation, but no projectile |
| 01:59.30 | Phaos | it also doesn't even hit the target |
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| 02:01.21 | rrowland | So there's no way to make text tags not appear in front of everything else |
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| 02:03.59 | Lilianna | Deep Fried Cheesecake @_@ |
| 02:06.38 | Alpha_vst | ewwwww |
| 02:09.55 | Lilianna | hehe |
| 02:09.58 | Lilianna | I <3 Cheesecake |
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| 02:21.53 | Dustin| | Simple 2D phyics |
| 02:21.54 | RedWraith | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 02:21.56 | purl | tehwildcard is currently on #sc2mapster (2h 13m 16s). Has said a total of 51 messages. Is idling for 1h 5m 16s, last said: 'oh'. |
| 02:22.01 | Dustin| | It wouldn't be hard at all |
| 02:23.30 | RedWraith | Yes, in fact... |
| 02:23.32 | RedWraith | It would be soft. |
| 02:23.48 | Dustin| | Can we do terrain deformation yet |
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| 02:25.02 | Lilianna | I thought you could do terrain deformation already? |
| 02:25.09 | Lilianna | With Actors? |
| 02:25.21 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 02:25.25 | Alpha_vst | yes |
| 02:25.44 | Alpha_vst | but its not as user friendly as it should be |
| 02:26.05 | Lilianna | Well the data editor isnt too user friendly in general |
| 02:26.12 | Alpha_vst | something that been deformed will react funny to a deform |
| 02:26.24 | Dustin| | Hmm |
| 02:26.33 | Dustin| | If deform isnt working right, this map idea wont either |
| 02:32.43 | Lilianna | Ooh I wonder if that fixed my minerals |
| 02:32.52 | Lilianna | Hurray it did! |
| 02:33.02 | Lilianna | I needed to turn on advanced editing to get to the Behavior I needed |
| 02:34.51 | Phaos | I can't get my projectile to launch from my weapon, it just always launches from the center of my main actor :x |
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| 02:38.57 | RedWraith | hey guys |
| 02:39.03 | RedWraith | so I have this voting system |
| 02:39.07 | RedWraith | and it's not useful to me anymore |
| 02:39.16 | RedWraith | it's round robin/vote anytime/cede whenever you want. |
| 02:39.24 | RedWraith | Should I post it as a mod on sc2mapster? |
| 02:39.36 | RedWraith | Would any of you be interested in something like that? I've barely tested it at all. |
| 02:40.03 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 02:40.10 | Alpha_vst | do it anyways |
| 02:40.13 | RedWraith | It's more like -this is how you do this- |
| 02:40.16 | RedWraith | than a real mod |
| 02:40.17 | RedWraith | :P |
| 02:40.24 | RedWraith | I'll be sure to explain that in the notes. |
| 02:41.39 | Lilianna | references are always good to have, someone will have a need at some point |
| 02:42.09 | Fatal5101 | female! |
| 02:42.45 | Lilianna | temale! |
| 02:43.27 | Fatal5101 | new project time! |
| 02:43.32 | Alpha_vst | LOL |
| 02:43.56 | Alpha_vst | how can i only show a ability if a unit has a behavior? |
| 02:43.56 | Lilianna | Building the perfect woman in the data editor? |
| 02:44.22 | Lilianna | Actor event validator thingy maybe? |
| 02:44.28 | Lilianna | I have no idea |
| 02:45.07 | Alpha_vst | i have tried the req field |
| 02:45.10 | Alpha_vst | as it has a show |
| 02:45.12 | Alpha_vst | thing |
| 02:45.16 | Alpha_vst | but its not working |
| 02:47.20 | Alpha_vst | gah maybe im doing this all wrong |
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| 02:49.02 | Alpha_vst | i tried making this abilty passive but it didnt work either |
| 02:50.33 | RedWraith | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/roundrobin/files/1-round-robin-voting-system/ |
| 02:50.34 | RedWraith | kk |
| 02:50.41 | RedWraith | enjoy the voting system, folks. |
| 02:50.55 | RedWraith | Should I post my anti-walling algorithm? yes/no? |
| 02:51.03 | RedWraith | I'm sure people will want to use that. ;) |
| 02:51.19 | rrowland | You should figure out how to put text tags into the same 3d space as units |
| 02:51.27 | RedWraith | Me? |
| 02:51.31 | rrowland | Yes |
| 02:51.35 | RedWraith | Why me? |
| 02:51.40 | RedWraith | Can't you do that? |
| 02:51.41 | rrowland | Because |
| 02:52.00 | rrowland | I've already given myself a headache over it |
| 02:52.21 | rrowland | And I'm about ready to scrap the whole idea |
| 02:52.27 | RedWraith | :[ |
| 02:52.36 | RedWraith | hmm... |
| 02:52.36 | rrowland | I walk behind a tree |
| 02:52.40 | rrowland | But my sprite walks right over it |
| 02:52.44 | rrowland | Cause it's a text tag |
| 02:52.55 | Lilianna | I'm trying to find the magial place that Minerals go, or the flag that says my unit is holding minerals. :| |
| 02:53.08 | RedWraith | oh, that's what you mean |
| 02:53.11 | RedWraith | I thought you meant |
| 02:53.15 | RedWraith | putting text tags as units |
| 02:53.20 | RedWraith | which would be just as awesome :P |
| 02:53.24 | RedWraith | like, a unit that's literally a word |
| 02:53.29 | rrowland | lol |
| 02:53.43 | rrowland | Well if that made it on the same level as doodads / units |
| 02:53.47 | rrowland | That would work |
| 02:54.00 | RedWraith | mmm |
| 02:54.02 | RedWraith | I want to makr |
| 02:54.04 | RedWraith | make* |
| 02:54.10 | RedWraith | 2d buildings |
| 02:54.11 | RedWraith | myself |
| 02:54.12 | RedWraith | actually |
| 02:55.42 | rrowland | There's an "image" parameter on models |
| 02:55.57 | rrowland | Though whatever it does it doesn't seem to do what I'm trying to do |
| 02:56.09 | RedWraith | Have you found it to do anything? |
| 02:56.17 | rrowland | Not that I've seen |
| 02:56.29 | RedWraith | mmm |
| 02:56.41 | rrowland | It's like |
| 02:56.49 | rrowland | 99% of what I need to make something cool is supported |
| 02:57.02 | rrowland | But there's that 1% that's a necessary staple that fucks it all up |
| 02:58.42 | RedWraith | I still don't fully understand how you converted the text tag into a picture. |
| 02:59.10 | rrowland | Text support images |
| 02:59.18 | RedWraith | mmm |
| 02:59.23 | RedWraith | I could see myself using that in the future. |
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| 02:59.50 | RedWraith | Can't you just make the units moving decals? :P |
| 02:59.53 | RedWraith | though |
| 02:59.54 | RedWraith | that would |
| 02:59.55 | RedWraith | make them |
| 02:59.57 | RedWraith | fit to terrain |
| 03:00.00 | RedWraith | :[ |
| 03:00.20 | rrowland | Well this is a perfect solution... Other than this one thing that makes it all fucked up |
| 03:00.22 | RedWraith | wait, but if it's in the game world, it has to fit to terrain |
| 03:00.24 | rrowland | Almost perfect |
| 03:00.26 | RedWraith | isn't that kind of a problem? |
| 03:00.39 | rrowland | What? |
| 03:00.46 | RedWraith | If you make it go under trees |
| 03:00.49 | RedWraith | and it's in the game world |
| 03:00.52 | RedWraith | say you go down a hill |
| 03:01.05 | RedWraith | half your character, being flat, will disappear into the hill, or worse, it'll get angled |
| 03:01.06 | RedWraith | :P |
| 03:01.55 | RedWraith | I'm surprised, though, that there's no unit for which text tags will disappear behind. |
| 03:04.07 | RedWraith | "You are trying to log in using a client not recognized by the Battle.net service" |
| 03:04.09 | RedWraith | That's new... |
| 03:05.20 | RedWraith | I'm surprised there isn't some way to set rendering priority for a text image, though. |
| 03:05.39 | RedWraith | err, in a way that interacts with units >_> |
| 03:05.47 | RedWraith | I could see definite uses for a hide-able health bar. |
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| 03:08.12 | rrowland | Well it always stays straight up and above ground |
| 03:08.20 | rrowland | Just when it's behind an object it should be obstructed |
| 03:08.22 | rrowland | Like any other unit |
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| 03:11.18 | rrowland | It's an actor |
| 03:11.26 | rrowland | I don't know why it can't have a position |
| 03:12.14 | `MindWorX | Do you create an image and update its position? |
| 03:12.22 | `MindWorX | "image" being a random word i picked |
| 03:12.29 | `MindWorX | Haven't coded much in galaxy yet |
| 03:12.43 | rrowland | It's a text tag |
| 03:12.49 | `MindWorX | Hm |
| 03:12.53 | Lilianna | c.c |
| 03:12.58 | Lilianna | I froze the data editor, wooo! |
| 03:13.02 | rrowland | I suppose text tags are just UI elements |
| 03:13.12 | `MindWorX | And the last created are the ones that are topmost? |
| 03:13.12 | rrowland | And they're added over a unit or position |
| 03:13.16 | rrowland | And not actually in the game world |
| 03:13.25 | rrowland | Yeah but I fixed that part |
| 03:13.31 | `MindWorX | Oh alright |
| 03:13.32 | rrowland | The problem is they always are over doodads |
| 03:13.37 | rrowland | And etc |
| 03:14.42 | rrowland | Seems like the only answer is to put them on a plane and give them animated textures |
| 03:14.49 | rrowland | Fuck that, since it's not even possible right now |
| 03:15.00 | rrowland | Or, to only use the 3d terrain and make all objects 2d |
| 03:15.03 | `MindWorX | And then threaten to crash the plane unless they do as they're told? |
| 03:15.05 | rrowland | Which kind of defeats the point |
| 03:15.06 | `MindWorX | ;) |
| 03:15.44 | `MindWorX | What about just making a custom model? |
| 03:15.55 | `MindWorX | That has the "sprite" as a texture on it? |
| 03:16.06 | rrowland | You mean like a plane with an animated texture? |
| 03:16.10 | `MindWorX | Yea |
| 03:16.21 | rrowland | That's weird, I never thought of that |
| 03:16.38 | `MindWorX | I did that when i made a 2d game for wc3 |
| 03:16.41 | rrowland | Especially not like 2 minutes ago when I said it seems like the only answer is to put them on a plane and give them animated textures |
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| 03:16.59 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:17.00 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/board.html?forumId=12009&sid=3000 |
| 03:17.02 | onetwo | look at that |
| 03:17.11 | onetwo | noobmaster brought back years of blue posts |
| 03:17.16 | onetwo | onto page 1 |
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| 03:19.11 | `MindWorX | Tho a plane might be unnessecary, WC3 had this thing called a "billboard", that does exactly what you need |
| 03:19.17 | `MindWorX | I bet sc2 should have the same |
| 03:19.38 | `MindWorX | billboards was basically a texture that always faced the camera automagically |
| 03:19.42 | rrowland | But I need a .swf right? |
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| 03:19.50 | `MindWorX | What do i know? You're the mapper |
| 03:19.58 | `MindWorX | I'm only hacking up the editor |
| 03:20.01 | `MindWorX | Haven't used it much yet |
| 03:20.17 | rrowland | I heard billboards exist but I don't see them in trigger editor |
| 03:20.19 | rrowland | They a data thing? |
| 03:20.29 | `MindWorX | They're a model thing in WC3 |
| 03:20.37 | `MindWorX | So either a data thing or a model thing in sc2 |
| 03:21.21 | Phaos_ | you want a billboarding images ? |
| 03:22.13 | rrowland | If it supports transparency |
| 03:22.15 | rrowland | It'll work |
| 03:22.30 | `MindWorX | You should ask some modeller |
| 03:22.37 | `MindWorX | I have no clue myself, i'm just brainstorming ideas |
| 03:22.51 | `MindWorX | Like i said, i'm a hacker not a mapper |
| 03:22.53 | `MindWorX | Atleast not yet |
| 03:24.04 | rrowland | bubbaad.ogv |
| 03:24.48 | Phaos_ | billboarding is easy if you know your vector math |
| 03:25.04 | `MindWorX | Shouldn't be nessecary to know math if models support it already |
| 03:25.09 | `MindWorX | Would be pointless actually |
| 03:25.14 | rrowland | What is OGV? |
| 03:25.25 | `MindWorX | No clue |
| 03:25.25 | Phaos_ | yes but it doesn't look like models support billboarding |
| 03:25.30 | `MindWorX | Silly |
| 03:25.35 | `MindWorX | Since WC3 supported it |
| 03:25.38 | `MindWorX | Anyways, i'm off |
| 03:25.43 | `MindWorX | waves to Sexen |
| 03:28.27 | rrowland | So the city billboards model has 18 variations |
| 03:28.37 | rrowland | But the Variations + field is blank |
| 03:28.43 | rrowland | So where the hell are they define |
| 03:28.44 | rrowland | d |
| 03:31.52 | RedWraith | I think |
| 03:31.54 | Phaos_ | good question |
| 03:31.55 | RedWraith | it has something to do |
| 03:32.02 | RedWraith | with how they chose their "model" |
| 03:32.03 | RedWraith | along with |
| 03:32.05 | Phaos_ | doodad behavior |
| 03:32.07 | RedWraith | a parameter |
| 03:32.09 | RedWraith | blahblah |
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| 03:36.16 | Phaos_ | I'm at work so I can't check the editor. but I am pretty sure it's to do with the actor type doodad |
| 03:41.48 | Alpha_vst | so things that hide abilties are bugged? |
| 03:42.45 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 03:42.53 | Lilianna | Well I made a mine give full energy |
| 03:42.53 | Lilianna | wooo |
| 03:43.19 | Alpha_vst | backwards :P |
| 03:43.34 | Lilianna | Hurray |
| 03:43.38 | Lilianna | now it gives 10, like I wanted |
| 03:43.56 | Lilianna | now I just need to figure out how to make mining make my unit not hold something |
| 03:46.00 | Alpha_vst | remove the event from the unit? |
| 03:46.02 | Alpha_vst | idono |
| 03:46.13 | Alpha_vst | it might be in the animation... |
| 03:46.46 | Lilianna | You know whats weird, the Carry Mineral thing is a Behavior attached to mining, its a buff that is given, but not sure what it does |
| 03:46.57 | Lilianna | I tried making it expire, so the unit wouldnt have resources |
| 03:46.59 | Lilianna | but that didnt work |
| 03:47.07 | Alpha_vst | remove it? |
| 03:47.20 | Lilianna | I used it instead to make it give energy :D |
| 03:47.28 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 03:47.29 | Lilianna | since, my mineral field worked before having it |
| 03:48.09 | Alpha_vst | WOOOT |
| 03:48.33 | Alpha_vst | my revive in range works i jsut cant get it to hide the abilty |
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| 03:48.54 | Alpha_vst | but i can disable it... |
| 03:52.06 | Phaos_ | Lilianna it's to do with the actor "anim carry" |
| 03:52.18 | Lilianna | Yus, I did realize that |
| 03:52.30 | Phaos_ | coolio |
| 03:52.32 | Lilianna | Its what played the carry anim and created the gem |
| 03:52.37 | Phaos_ | sorry i just came late to the convo |
| 03:52.41 | Lilianna | :) |
| 03:52.52 | Lilianna | I'm looking for the flag or something that says a Unit has resources |
| 03:52.53 | Phaos_ | I thought you were still stuck on how to stop it from carrying something |
| 03:52.54 | Lilianna | after mining now |
| 03:53.02 | Phaos_ | ah |
| 03:53.07 | Phaos_ | thats on the unit it's self |
| 03:53.28 | Phaos_ | sorry actually |
| 03:53.43 | Lilianna | I would think it would be part of the Harvest ability |
| 03:53.45 | Phaos_ | it's the scv/drone/probe gather behavior |
| 03:53.48 | Lilianna | but cant find anything |
| 03:53.51 | Phaos_ | ability* |
| 03:54.02 | Phaos_ | what do you want them to stop harvesting ? |
| 03:54.11 | Lilianna | I want them to harvest my minerals |
| 03:54.14 | Lilianna | but not get anything |
| 03:54.25 | Lilianna | but still go through the channel |
| 03:54.31 | Phaos_ | so cinematic mineral harvesting ? |
| 03:54.37 | Lilianna | Mining for energy |
| 03:54.40 | Phaos_ | ah |
| 03:54.42 | Lilianna | and a buff, which I will use later |
| 03:55.02 | Phaos_ | I got it |
| 03:55.09 | Phaos_ | go to mineral base |
| 03:55.27 | Phaos_ | and reduce harvested amount to 0 |
| 03:55.43 | Lilianna | But then I cant decrement the minerals |
| 03:55.54 | Lilianna | or at least, it doesnt seem to |
| 03:57.10 | Lilianna | that also breaks the energy gain bit |
| 03:58.23 | Phaos_ | hmmm |
| 03:58.40 | Phaos_ | what are you doing in order to make the energy transfer |
| 03:58.41 | Phaos_ | ? |
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| 03:59.10 | Lilianna | Theres a Behavior thats applied when they complete mining, and get resources |
| 03:59.20 | Lilianna | that Behavior is temporary, I made it last .1 seconds |
| 03:59.29 | Lilianna | and it applies an effect that adds energy |
| 03:59.30 | Phaos_ | and you can set up a trigger at the very least that has a condition that the harvester finishes harvesting, remove 10 minerals |
| 03:59.31 | Lilianna | to the unit |
| 03:59.55 | Lilianna | its not a harvester though, its a marine. :x |
| 04:00.00 | Lilianna | >.> |
| 04:00.06 | Phaos_ | for the marine then :P |
| 04:00.07 | Lilianna | but besides that, hehe |
| 04:00.08 | Phaos_ | same concept |
| 04:00.17 | Phaos_ | thats my guess |
| 04:00.24 | Lilianna | its a custom resource |
| 04:00.27 | Phaos_ | I'm sure there is a data ed way to do it |
| 04:00.30 | Lilianna | so it doesnt even show up up top anyways |
| 04:02.59 | Lilianna | Just need to dig around, I'ms ure I'll find it eventually |
| 04:04.12 | Lilianna | Hmm, I think I might have thought of a cheap way to do it... |
| 04:04.24 | Lilianna | Make the Mineral field a drop off point too. :> |
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| 04:04.35 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 04:04.39 | Lilianna | Hiyas |
| 04:06.04 | onetwo | hi |
| 04:07.05 | Lilianna | That will work quite nicely. :D |
| 04:07.15 | Lilianna | Now to make bevhaiors share control when unit is in range |
| 04:08.07 | Alpha_vst | hey heysparky |
| 04:08.18 | Phaos_ | if you make the mineral field a drop off point, won't the minerals still go into your resources |
| 04:09.40 | Lilianna | Phaos, What minerals? |
| 04:09.49 | Lilianna | I told you earlier, you dont see them, because they are considered custom |
| 04:10.49 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 04:11.18 | heysparky | is there any sort of tutorial for loading this stuff? I haven't done any custom anything apart from data |
| 04:11.30 | heysparky | which is ... you know... built in |
| 04:11.51 | heysparky | this stuff = m3 |
| 04:12.54 | Alpha_vst | import it link it to a model make a actor set the model to the actor |
| 04:13.01 | Alpha_vst | make a unit set the actor to the unit |
| 04:13.12 | heysparky | easy peasy |
| 04:13.22 | heysparky | 'cept for maybe that first part :) |
| 04:13.35 | Alpha_vst | modules import |
| 04:14.05 | Alpha_vst | doesnt matter where you put it i like to be sorta consistant and use assets/models |
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| 04:16.48 | Alpha_vst | let me know if the textures don't show or something is wrong :P i had to reset the textures cause exporter was giving errors |
| 04:18.47 | Phaos_ | onetwo how can I change where a launched projectile comes from. and I mean, on a model not caster/source/target e.t.c |
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| 04:19.52 | onetwo | oh sorry i dont know off by hand |
| 04:19.59 | onetwo | cant open editor atm workign on history assignment |
| 04:20.01 | onetwo | :( |
| 04:23.18 | Jcup | eww |
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| 04:37.52 | Jcup | irc is dead :D |
| 04:39.32 | casperb | and you killed it o.o |
| 04:39.50 | casperb | sounded like a song |
| 04:40.06 | Phaos_ | oh well thanks onetwo, I can't either, I'm at work :P |
| 04:40.44 | Lilianna | Oh even better idea |
| 04:40.51 | Lilianna | Make my Marine a resource dropoff point |
| 04:41.00 | Lilianna | so he unloads Invisible resources on himself. :D |
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| 04:42.24 | mcrae | hello! |
| 04:42.37 | mcrae | can anyone tell me how to increase the 200 supply cap in galaxy editor please? |
| 04:44.00 | mcrae | blah, one of those irc channels built for idling eh.... :( |
| 04:44.08 | Lilianna | I have no idea. :x |
| 04:44.23 | Jcup | lol we dont usualy idle |
| 04:44.35 | Jcup | We usually are bussling around but a friday night is dead :D |
| 04:44.42 | Lilianna | I figured a positive answer woulda been better, so I didnt say anything |
| 04:45.01 | mcrae | lol |
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| 04:45.13 | mcrae | yeah i suppose it is late on a friday |
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| 04:48.30 | mcrae | c'mon i know somebody has an idea how i can do this |
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| 04:49.07 | Jcup | U can make it so units dont cost food lol |
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| 04:56.27 | mcrae | well, in the data editor under races you can up the food limit |
| 04:56.30 | mcrae | by race |
| 04:56.48 | mcrae | still dunno how to do it by palyer but if anyone was curious there you go |
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| 05:00.14 | Phaos_ | by player isn't possible don't think, maybe through triggers |
| 05:00.48 | Phaos_ | alternatively you can duplicate teh race your basing it off and assig nthat player to the duplicate race |
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| 05:46.36 | Fatal5101 | dang it's dead here! |
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| 05:50.37 | Alpha_vst | lol |
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| 05:54.56 | axlyin | zomg? |
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| 06:08.36 | axlyin | jjKLJKAKLFDJL;KFJAKLDSFJAOIJRAIWEPORJ? |
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| 06:20.59 | Jcup | is the irc sky falling again? |
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| 06:32.43 | Muffin_ | is beta back up yet.. -.- |
| 06:33.22 | Muffin_ | ? |
| 06:33.54 | allenmelon | idk |
| 06:33.58 | allenmelon | im wondering also |
| 06:34.38 | allenmelon | if the beta were to come out on a certain day at midnight, what time zone would that midnight be in? |
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| 06:38.08 | onetwo | hi |
| 06:38.11 | axlyin | hai thar onetwo |
| 06:38.12 | onetwo | immmmm the best! |
| 06:38.14 | onetwo | mario |
| 06:38.18 | axlyin | i was lookin for you earlier |
| 06:38.24 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:38.27 | axlyin | and now i forget why >.> |
| 06:38.33 | onetwo | mmm lets mvoe on then |
| 06:38.34 | onetwo | move* |
| 06:38.34 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:38.42 | axlyin | ah |
| 06:38.42 | axlyin | i remember |
| 06:39.00 | axlyin | >.> |
| 06:39.00 | axlyin | I can't get my hero to drop lewtz |
| 06:39.02 | axlyin | HOW I FIX? |
| 06:39.03 | axlyin | <3 |
| 06:39.07 | onetwo | i was told theres a bug |
| 06:39.11 | onetwo | that loot only drops from hostile units |
| 06:39.11 | axlyin | <.< |
| 06:39.14 | onetwo | hostile player |
| 06:39.14 | onetwo | units |
| 06:39.17 | axlyin | hkjhsdjsdhfas |
| 06:39.22 | onetwo | i cant confirm |
| 06:39.24 | axlyin | *testing* |
| 06:40.30 | axlyin | UGH |
| 06:40.33 | axlyin | it's true |
| 06:40.41 | axlyin | HAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE |
| 06:41.21 | axlyin | hm and stranger yet |
| 06:41.21 | onetwo | maybe itll be fixed soon |
| 06:41.22 | onetwo | seems odd |
| 06:41.25 | axlyin | the item dies o.O |
| 06:41.28 | axlyin | after I pick it up |
| 06:41.57 | onetwo | might be a flag somewhere |
| 06:41.59 | onetwo | in item |
| 06:42.02 | onetwo | or loot |
| 06:42.06 | onetwo | or container |
| 06:42.10 | onetwo | or unit |
| 06:42.24 | onetwo | or the actor event |
| 06:42.27 | onetwo | might be playing death animation |
| 06:42.29 | onetwo | depending on what model youre using |
| 06:42.53 | axlyin | hm |
| 06:42.58 | axlyin | the item works every other time |
| 06:43.02 | axlyin | except when dropped |
| 06:43.05 | axlyin | from loot |
| 06:43.21 | axlyin | maybe cause I spawned it as a unit? |
| 06:43.22 | axlyin | no... |
| 06:43.23 | onetwo | check for can drop flags |
| 06:43.27 | axlyin | ah |
| 06:43.30 | axlyin | wait |
| 06:43.31 | onetwo | stuff like that |
| 06:43.31 | onetwo | maybe |
| 06:43.31 | axlyin | no it drops |
| 06:43.36 | axlyin | like |
| 06:43.37 | onetwo | mabye a random trigger |
| 06:43.38 | axlyin | it's tehre |
| 06:43.39 | onetwo | is killing it |
| 06:43.39 | axlyin | there* |
| 06:43.44 | axlyin | don't have any triggers |
| 06:43.56 | axlyin | like when I pick up the item, it just ceases to exist |
| 06:44.12 | axlyin | but only when it's loot |
| 06:44.16 | axlyin | could just be a bug |
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| 06:44.37 | onetwo | this is odd |
| 06:44.41 | axlyin | ? |
| 06:44.41 | onetwo | i havent had this bug in my rpg yet |
| 06:44.51 | axlyin | doing it to you? |
| 06:44.58 | onetwo | yeah i havent had this happen |
| 06:44.59 | onetwo | ever |
| 06:45.04 | axlyin | uoch |
| 06:45.05 | axlyin | ouch* |
| 06:45.15 | onetwo | so not sure what yours has |
| 06:45.16 | onetwo | as flags |
| 06:45.18 | onetwo | or stuff... |
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| 06:45.38 | axlyin | wait, is it actually happening to you now or are you saying you've never seen it happen |
| 06:45.52 | onetwo | never seen it and never happened to me |
| 06:45.58 | axlyin | ah |
| 06:45.59 | axlyin | hrm |
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| 06:46.36 | Preenusburn | are you Wizards/ |
| 06:46.38 | Preenusburn | ? |
| 06:46.53 | Pierro | Hello all |
| 06:47.05 | Preenusburn | wat o.O |
| 06:48.08 | onetwo | R1CH is |
| 06:48.10 | onetwo | R1CH: you know i'll wizard that shit up |
| 06:48.18 | onetwo | http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=111649 |
| 06:48.21 | onetwo | :D |
| 06:50.34 | Pierro | @ProzaicMuze |
| 06:50.40 | Pierro | I think I find a way |
| 06:50.47 | Pierro | for custom search area |
| 06:52.33 | onetwo | im making my semi-fantasy rpg's Engineer hero |
| 06:52.35 | onetwo | what model? |
| 06:52.36 | onetwo | scv? |
| 06:52.47 | Fatal5101 | who wants to sell their photoshop skills to me |
| 06:52.48 | onetwo | do you guys think |
| 06:52.50 | Fatal5101 | need icons |
| 06:52.52 | onetwo | sup? |
| 06:52.55 | onetwo | from scratch? |
| 06:53.04 | Fatal5101 | does not have to be |
| 06:53.05 | onetwo | i recommend just using WoW icons |
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| 06:53.13 | onetwo | therse a pack on sc2mapster |
| 06:53.14 | Fatal5101 | how do i get them?! |
| 06:53.15 | Fatal5101 | oh |
| 06:53.16 | Fatal5101 | ok |
| 06:53.17 | Fatal5101 | sweet |
| 06:53.20 | onetwo | or google it |
| 06:53.29 | onetwo | youll find em hopefully |
| 06:53.34 | Fatal5101 | you ready for the best map ever when the beta goes up ? |
| 06:53.35 | onetwo | thats the best collection of icons in the world |
| 06:53.36 | onetwo | imo |
| 06:53.37 | onetwo | haha |
| 06:53.38 | onetwo | yes |
| 06:53.41 | Fatal5101 | good |
| 06:53.57 | onetwo | k so what model should i use for my engineer class |
| 06:54.01 | onetwo | i can only think of scv |
| 06:54.08 | Fatal5101 | marauder |
| 06:54.15 | onetwo | has to be melee |
| 06:54.21 | Fatal5101 | make him melee |
| 06:54.25 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:54.48 | onetwo | it might not look right |
| 06:54.57 | Fatal5101 | he has a backhand animation |
| 06:55.04 | onetwo | oh? |
| 06:55.07 | Fatal5101 | i lied |
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| 06:56.44 | onetwo | well he has an attackOld |
| 06:56.51 | onetwo | which could look like a closeup |
| 06:56.52 | onetwo | attack |
| 06:56.53 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 06:57.05 | onetwo | Hati |
| 06:57.08 | onetwo | Engineer class in my rpg |
| 06:57.09 | onetwo | what model? |
| 06:57.14 | Hati | hmm? |
| 06:57.19 | onetwo | scv is my current idea |
| 06:57.23 | onetwo | needs to be melee |
| 06:57.26 | onetwo | fatal suggested |
| 06:57.27 | onetwo | marauder |
| 06:57.44 | Fatal5101 | marauder looks nice a bulker |
| 06:57.46 | Fatal5101 | bliky |
| 06:57.49 | Fatal5101 | bulky |
| 06:57.50 | Fatal5101 | cant type |
| 06:58.46 | onetwo | i got an idea |
| 06:58.51 | onetwo | scv for now cause animations will be right |
| 06:58.55 | onetwo | then when we get release material |
| 06:58.56 | onetwo | ill change it |
| 07:00.42 | Pierro | Any modeler willing to help me ?? |
| 07:01.06 | Pierro | I need some cubes.... |
| 07:01.14 | Pierro | alterd though |
| 07:02.52 | Pierro | Is it possible to make model for sc2 with Blender ? |
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| 07:06.59 | onetwo | probably not? |
| 07:07.15 | Pierro | I'd like to make custom cube model |
| 07:07.25 | Pierro | wich looks like rock |
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| 07:16.58 | onetwo | in a way actors make sense to me, but then i think about the 200 items ill have |
| 07:17.07 | onetwo | and how each one is going to have same model |
| 07:17.10 | onetwo | and yet each one needs an actor |
| 07:17.14 | onetwo | 200 actors for no reason at all |
| 07:19.41 | axlyin | so |
| 07:19.45 | axlyin | what is sc2 color blender? |
| 07:20.10 | axlyin | *nudge nudge* |
| 07:20.31 | axlyin | errr |
| 07:20.34 | axlyin | sc2 colorizer |
| 07:20.45 | axlyin | it's on bifuu's desktop >.> |
| 07:22.55 | axlyin | oic |
| 07:23.04 | onetwo | if i made my item system like WoW's |
| 07:23.07 | onetwo | where no items can drop |
| 07:23.11 | onetwo | that would be awesome lol |
| 07:23.21 | axlyin | x.x |
| 07:23.22 | onetwo | saves me units AND actors |
| 07:23.32 | onetwo | but id have to do item drops through like triggers |
| 07:23.34 | onetwo | and dialogs |
| 07:23.35 | onetwo | or something |
| 07:23.40 | axlyin | yeah |
| 07:23.51 | axlyin | something like |
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| 07:23.57 | axlyin | 1 crate |
| 07:24.20 | axlyin | that you trigger to have loot in it depending on the mob killed? |
| 07:24.23 | onetwo | it takes mye like 10 mins to make an item |
| 07:24.26 | onetwo | me* |
| 07:24.38 | axlyin | I take my time with items |
| 07:24.42 | axlyin | cause I use spell effects and stuff |
| 07:24.45 | onetwo | but i need so many :( |
| 07:24.46 | onetwo | for rpg |
| 07:24.52 | axlyin | lol |
| 07:24.56 | onetwo | then unique items |
| 07:25.01 | axlyin | I just watched ur vid btw |
| 07:25.03 | axlyin | err... vids |
| 07:25.08 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:25.17 | axlyin | my items look badass :D |
| 07:25.30 | onetwo | :D |
| 07:25.31 | axlyin | they float and have a terran beacon below them |
| 07:25.53 | axlyin | like my speed charm from bifuu's tut is the orb that pops up around the target from the phoenix's ability |
| 07:26.12 | axlyin | I had to get creative with it though because I couldnt' click it |
| 07:26.20 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:26.23 | axlyin | I ended up adding a 2nd actor for it which was a baneling egg |
| 07:26.25 | axlyin | with 0 opacity |
| 07:26.56 | axlyin | ugh |
| 07:27.02 | axlyin | i'm dreading when I have to get into triggers |
| 07:27.09 | axlyin | I don't know them yet |
| 07:27.18 | axlyin | I've done everything on my map so far with DE |
| 07:27.36 | axlyin | now I have to work on my talent trees |
| 07:27.41 | axlyin | x.x |
| 07:27.45 | onetwo | triggers are good |
| 07:27.54 | onetwo | its more logical |
| 07:27.55 | onetwo | imo |
| 07:28.16 | axlyin | I'm gonna try to only use them for my interface |
| 07:28.20 | axlyin | like the whole select your unit thing |
| 07:28.28 | axlyin | cause i'm making a hero arena style game |
| 07:28.40 | axlyin | I made Fear from WoW :D |
| 07:28.40 | axlyin | lol |
| 07:28.49 | axlyin | was actually really easy >.> |
| 07:29.09 | axlyin | negative buff with flee flag checked |
| 07:29.13 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:29.16 | axlyin | and deactivate everything except move |
| 07:29.19 | axlyin | even stop lol |
| 07:30.47 | axlyin | I have somewhere around 30 abilities done and I'm not even halfway done yet >< |
| 07:31.01 | onetwo | tell me about it :( |
| 07:31.03 | onetwo | im in same boat |
| 07:31.04 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:31.12 | onetwo | thank god we could work during downtime |
| 07:31.19 | axlyin | yeah seriously |
| 07:31.23 | onetwo | ive spent month on my rpg |
| 07:31.27 | onetwo | and its currently in the state of |
| 07:31.29 | onetwo | "oh thats cool" |
| 07:31.33 | onetwo | move along |
| 07:31.34 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:31.39 | axlyin | I think i'm like... 2 or 3 weeks in |
| 07:31.42 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/roundrobin/. Round Robin Voting System. RedWraithSC (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 07:31.47 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/invasion-aiur/. The invasion of aiur. dunlace (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 07:31.48 | onetwo | its the data editor |
| 07:32.03 | axlyin | and I have like... half of my hero abilities doen |
| 07:32.03 | axlyin | done* |
| 07:32.17 | axlyin | just watched the vid on how to do the ability leveling thing |
| 07:32.24 | axlyin | which gave me the idea of talent trees |
| 07:32.29 | onetwo | ah |
| 07:32.32 | axlyin | so that's gonna add a shit ton more work lol |
| 07:32.37 | onetwo | yep |
| 07:32.47 | axlyin | it will be worth it though |
| 07:32.56 | axlyin | this is gonna be my 1 map till I go to the army |
| 07:33.05 | axlyin | so might as well like the outcome |
| 07:33.22 | axlyin | so much is gonna change when it releases though |
| 07:33.25 | axlyin | like actors |
| 07:33.38 | axlyin | use some of the actual hero units |
| 07:33.51 | axlyin | I can't wait to be able to add all the other friggin units they have in the game |
| 07:34.48 | axlyin | god I think I have somewhere around 70 actors x.x half of which I had to make from scratch |
| 07:35.20 | onetwo | haha |
| 07:35.23 | onetwo | yeah new models will be nice |
| 07:35.28 | axlyin | if you want, you can check out what I have on my map so far, see if anything sparks an idea |
| 07:35.42 | onetwo | im too swamped in mine atm |
| 07:35.46 | onetwo | currently fixing my triggers |
| 07:35.47 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:35.48 | axlyin | lol troo |
| 07:36.19 | axlyin | all mine is so far, is a building to pick your hero, a shop to buy and sell, and some mobs to rape |
| 07:36.45 | axlyin | and like 300 pylons cause I haven't looked into how to set the users unit resource |
| 07:36.54 | onetwo | lol |
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| 07:38.22 | axlyin | UGH |
| 07:38.26 | axlyin | why is this item dying >< |
| 07:38.37 | axlyin | I pick it up, works for a split second, then POOF |
| 07:40.24 | axlyin | ok maybe you can help me |
| 07:40.28 | axlyin | it seems to only be doing it |
| 07:40.38 | axlyin | when the item isn't player 1 |
| 07:41.27 | onetwo | check the loot thing |
| 07:41.30 | onetwo | owner of loot |
| 07:41.51 | onetwo | for the loot unit |
| 07:42.02 | onetwo | Spawn Location = caster unit |
| 07:42.09 | onetwo | Spawn Owner = Neutral Player |
| 07:42.25 | axlyin | but |
| 07:42.39 | axlyin | if it's not player 1 and I pick the item up |
| 07:42.40 | axlyin | it vanishes |
| 07:43.19 | axlyin | I want to be able to pick up dropped items from other players |
| 07:43.52 | onetwo | well im lost |
| 07:43.52 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:44.07 | axlyin | and like |
| 07:44.19 | axlyin | it's deleting any of the other copies of teh item on the field when I pick it up |
| 07:44.23 | axlyin | I wonder if it's an actor issue |
| 07:44.28 | onetwo | maybe |
| 07:44.50 | axlyin | cause it's only doing it with that item |
| 07:45.40 | onetwo | yeah |
| 07:49.35 | ashamed_ | whats a good virus scanner? |
| 07:49.46 | ashamed_ | like good good |
| 07:49.56 | ashamed_ | come on!!! |
| 07:50.12 | onetwo | symantec anti virus? |
| 07:50.17 | axlyin | LOL |
| 07:50.20 | axlyin | I FIGURED IT OUT |
| 07:50.23 | onetwo | lol what? |
| 07:50.24 | onetwo | was it |
| 07:50.27 | ashamed_ | thats what i have |
| 07:50.31 | axlyin | free virus scanner = malware bytes |
| 07:50.34 | ashamed_ | and its not getting what ever the fuck i have |
| 07:50.36 | axlyin | the problem was |
| 07:50.37 | ashamed_ | i have that too |
| 07:50.38 | ashamed_ | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:50.39 | axlyin | the items were DYIGN |
| 07:50.43 | axlyin | dying* |
| 07:50.46 | axlyin | see |
| 07:50.52 | ashamed_ | you just suggested both of the ones i have tried :( |
| 07:51.10 | axlyin | the item gives you "plague aura" which is an AoE DoT |
| 07:51.17 | onetwo | LOL |
| 07:51.18 | axlyin | what's wrong ashamed? |
| 07:51.18 | onetwo | AHHAHAHA |
| 07:51.19 | onetwo | hahahaha |
| 07:51.25 | onetwo | plaguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu failed |
| 07:51.27 | axlyin | yeah the items fucking died |
| 07:51.29 | ashamed_ | its messing my browsers up |
| 07:51.40 | ashamed_ | chrome/explorer wont find any pages |
| 07:51.45 | ashamed_ | and mozilla is crashing all the time |
| 07:51.48 | ashamed_ | its crazy |
| 07:51.49 | axlyin | did you already delete the virus? |
| 07:51.49 | ashamed_ | i have reinstalled |
| 07:51.53 | ashamed_ | Yeah |
| 07:51.56 | axlyin | ah |
| 07:51.56 | ashamed_ | I found a trojan |
| 07:51.59 | axlyin | i know what your problem is |
| 07:52.05 | ashamed_ | oh? |
| 07:52.06 | axlyin | you have to manually undo the damage |
| 07:52.17 | ashamed_ | oh shiz |
| 07:52.17 | axlyin | it changed a registry key |
| 07:52.30 | axlyin | let me find you a page to help you |
| 07:52.30 | ashamed_ | yeah |
| 07:52.34 | ashamed_ | duh |
| 07:52.36 | ashamed_ | for sure |
| 07:52.43 | ashamed_ | regedit |
| 07:53.07 | ashamed_ | i love being in a nerd group |
| 07:53.23 | ashamed_ | You get questions answered for everything lol |
| 07:54.22 | axlyin | bleepingcomputer.com |
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| 07:54.45 | axlyin | they'll tell you to download hijackthis and a fixit program and tell you to post the logs |
| 07:54.50 | axlyin | they will walk you through it |
| 07:55.24 | axlyin | so yeah |
| 07:55.31 | axlyin | i have to make my items invulnerable |
| 07:55.47 | ashamed_ | so make a post? |
| 07:55.52 | axlyin | aye |
| 07:55.55 | axlyin | tell them what happeend |
| 07:56.04 | axlyin | and that your browsers still can't use the internet |
| 07:56.34 | ashamed_ | ok |
| 07:56.49 | ashamed_ | ty axlyin |
| 07:56.57 | axlyin | np |
| 07:56.58 | axlyin | and good luck |
| 07:58.18 | axlyin | yay for item workingness |
| 07:58.27 | axlyin | want to know how i found out what was doing it onetwo? |
| 08:00.25 | onetwo | how |
| 08:00.43 | axlyin | the unit that drops the plague aura item itself had plague aura |
| 08:00.46 | axlyin | and i had the items |
| 08:00.49 | axlyin | on the ground |
| 08:00.57 | axlyin | so I was running away from him to get some life |
| 08:01.01 | axlyin | and he followed me to the items |
| 08:01.06 | axlyin | as he got in range of them |
| 08:01.07 | axlyin | poof |
| 08:01.10 | axlyin | they died |
| 08:01.27 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:01.28 | onetwo | ah |
| 08:01.30 | onetwo | hey |
| 08:01.34 | Pierro | hmm |
| 08:01.36 | onetwo | i have double buttons for all my items |
| 08:01.37 | axlyin | it wasn't until i notice one of my items was a reaper actor, died like a reaper would, tha tI figured out it was actually "death" |
| 08:01.38 | onetwo | like Sword |
| 08:01.40 | onetwo | and Purchase Sword |
| 08:01.43 | axlyin | yeah |
| 08:01.44 | onetwo | should i just leave it as Sword |
| 08:01.47 | axlyin | i've gotta do all that |
| 08:01.50 | onetwo | and can i assume people will know it means purchase |
| 08:01.51 | onetwo | in a store |
| 08:01.54 | axlyin | IMO go with the purchase |
| 08:01.57 | onetwo | cause its such a pain in the ass |
| 08:01.58 | axlyin | more professional |
| 08:01.59 | onetwo | having doubles |
| 08:02.01 | onetwo | ugh :( |
| 08:02.02 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:02.02 | axlyin | yep |
| 08:02.03 | axlyin | lol |
| 08:02.07 | axlyin | i haz question |
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| 08:02.10 | axlyin | how the hel |
| 08:02.10 | axlyin | l |
| 08:02.14 | axlyin | do i login to this shit |
| 08:02.17 | axlyin | using mirc |
| 08:02.33 | Pierro | PRO HINT ITEM (free sample) : Items are actaully "active" understand tehy apply effect, beahavior etc when carried (I mean not the carrying behavior field) |
| 08:02.36 | axlyin | tired of having it open in firefox |
| 08:02.37 | Pierro | to avoid taht |
| 08:02.41 | Pierro | put a validaotr |
| 08:02.43 | Pierro | is visible |
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| 08:03.03 | Pierro | let say you want an aura to destroy item |
| 08:03.13 | Pierro | it will destroy item in inventory |
| 08:03.20 | axlyin | yeah |
| 08:03.21 | Pierro | unless you put is visible |
| 08:03.21 | axlyin | it did |
| 08:03.43 | axlyin | so wait |
| 08:03.46 | axlyin | go to the item |
| 08:03.52 | Pierro | go to the aura |
| 08:03.53 | axlyin | and go to flag |
| 08:03.56 | axlyin | and is visible? |
| 08:03.57 | axlyin | o |
| 08:04.03 | Pierro | go to the aura |
| 08:04.06 | Pierro | go to validator |
| 08:04.15 | Pierro | more precisely go to the effect search |
| 08:04.23 | Pierro | then go to validator |
| 08:04.25 | Pierro | or filter |
| 08:04.29 | Pierro | or both |
| 08:04.33 | Pierro | and put is visible |
| 08:04.59 | axlyin | cool |
| 08:05.00 | axlyin | ty |
| 08:05.05 | Pierro | your welcome |
| 08:05.10 | axlyin | that doesn't apply to cloaked does it? |
| 08:05.22 | axlyin | cause i want it to hit cloaked units |
| 08:05.30 | Pierro | not because they are cloacked |
| 08:05.34 | Pierro | ok then |
| 08:05.37 | Pierro | you put |
| 08:05.39 | Pierro | filter |
| 08:05.42 | Pierro | cloaked |
| 08:05.45 | Pierro | require |
| 08:05.54 | Pierro | and other filter to desired target |
| 08:05.54 | axlyin | well not require, allowed |
| 08:06.01 | Pierro | yeah |
| 08:06.04 | axlyin | ok cool |
| 08:06.21 | axlyin | thanks much |
| 08:06.22 | axlyin | now, |
| 08:06.24 | axlyin | how do I login |
| 08:06.26 | axlyin | to this irc chat |
| 08:06.28 | axlyin | using mirc |
| 08:06.29 | axlyin | >< |
| 08:06.53 | axlyin | >.> |
| 08:06.55 | axlyin | anyone? |
| 08:07.22 | axlyin | or rather, what's the address of this IRC? |
| 08:07.37 | rrowland | 1234 freenode dr. |
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| 08:07.46 | axlyin | gjkdfjgdjsg |
| 08:07.53 | axlyin | rrowland always messes things up |
| 08:07.55 | axlyin | >< |
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| 08:12.50 | Pierro | onetwo |
| 08:12.51 | Pierro | http://tof.canardpc.com/view/bb9129e0-9561-4ad1-83bb-4d5d00580b71.jpg |
| 08:13.07 | onetwo | yah? |
| 08:13.08 | axlyin | wazzat? |
| 08:13.14 | Fisker | hero arena/defense i guess |
| 08:13.16 | Pierro | ProzaicMuze ; Here is a conceptual |
| 08:13.21 | Pierro | of my building |
| 08:13.41 | Pierro | all is based on what is inside a building location |
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| 08:14.15 | Pierro | not hero arena |
| 08:14.21 | Pierro | more like dungeon keeper |
| 08:14.24 | Pierro | or the sims |
| 08:14.33 | rrowland | http://us.starcraft2.com/dominion/propaganda-contest.xml#inum=55&ap=5 |
| 08:14.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:15.04 | axlyin | :O |
| 08:15.07 | onetwo | oh nice |
| 08:15.08 | axlyin | I should get into that |
| 08:15.12 | onetwo | haha angelina |
| 08:15.12 | axlyin | I'm a graphic designer :D |
| 08:15.16 | onetwo | good to see shes made it into sc2 world |
| 08:15.25 | rrowland | :P |
| 08:15.31 | onetwo | wow they accepted a lot already |
| 08:15.33 | onetwo | liek 17 pages |
| 08:15.37 | onetwo | err 23 |
| 08:16.06 | rrowland | They only accepted one of mine... |
| 08:16.06 | onetwo | i thought they would be extremely demanding |
| 08:16.09 | onetwo | ah |
| 08:16.14 | rrowland | They were both pro |
| 08:16.20 | onetwo | yours excluded, im noticing a lot of crap |
| 08:16.22 | onetwo | on most pages |
| 08:16.30 | rrowland | Yeah |
| 08:16.41 | axlyin | well |
| 08:16.43 | rrowland | I have no reason why they wouldn't post my other one |
| 08:16.44 | axlyin | a lot of the ideas |
| 08:16.49 | axlyin | can be stolen for starship troopers |
| 08:16.49 | onetwo | atleast, i thought they would be of this quality |
| 08:16.50 | onetwo | http://us.media.blizzard.com/starcraft2/images/artwork/ss103-hires.jpg |
| 08:16.57 | onetwo | i thought that would be like the required |
| 08:16.58 | onetwo | skill |
| 08:17.01 | onetwo | artistically |
| 08:17.15 | onetwo | but they are much more open |
| 08:17.18 | onetwo | but blizz is weird rrowland |
| 08:17.20 | onetwo | in their choices |
| 08:17.21 | onetwo | for contests etc |
| 08:17.24 | axlyin | well |
| 08:17.27 | axlyin | it's propaganda |
| 08:17.29 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:17.31 | Pierro | FYI : you designate a building location, You bring required stuff (for instance a workshop require a cpu and a fabrication machine) then the building locator tell you what building you can activate according the stuff you put inside |
| 08:17.41 | axlyin | it's not supposed to be all awesomely graphical |
| 08:18.02 | axlyin | obeygiant.com |
| 08:18.03 | axlyin | that's propaganda |
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| 08:18.33 | axlyin | also |
| 08:18.34 | axlyin | my hero |
| 08:18.53 | axlyin | Shepard Fairey ftw :D |
| 08:19.22 | onetwo | but still |
| 08:19.30 | onetwo | i thought itd be a bit harder to get in |
| 08:19.34 | onetwo | well rrowland we can confirm one thing |
| 08:19.35 | onetwo | sex sells |
| 08:19.39 | onetwo | jolie poster |
| 08:19.40 | onetwo | won |
| 08:19.44 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:19.58 | axlyin | sex can be a huge part of propaganda |
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| 08:20.31 | onetwo | speaking of which, jolie should play kerrigan in the starcraft movie |
| 08:20.32 | onetwo | WHEN its made |
| 08:20.33 | onetwo | not if |
| 08:20.43 | onetwo | blizzards lore in movie form would kill most other movies |
| 08:20.47 | onetwo | its so much better |
| 08:20.51 | onetwo | i find warcraft much better than LOTR |
| 08:20.53 | onetwo | orcs arent just evil |
| 08:20.58 | onetwo | they have a humanizing side |
| 08:21.03 | onetwo | much more depth imo |
| 08:21.10 | axlyin | lol even though wow stole from LOTR :p |
| 08:21.10 | rrowland | Well to be fair, my other poster was good but it wasn't THIS good http://us.starcraft2.com/dominion/propaganda-contest.xml#inum=169&ap=15 |
| 08:21.15 | onetwo | true |
| 08:21.21 | rrowland | I'm glad that one got up but my second didn't |
| 08:21.33 | onetwo | . |
| 08:21.39 | axlyin | lmao |
| 08:21.41 | MavercK | the only way i'd see a starcraft movie |
| 08:21.45 | MavercK | is if it was full CG |
| 08:21.49 | onetwo | really? |
| 08:21.53 | onetwo | i wouldnt watch it in full CG |
| 08:21.56 | MavercK | video game adaptions into live action |
| 08:21.58 | onetwo | itd be another final fantasy movie |
| 08:21.59 | onetwo | failure |
| 08:21.59 | MavercK | are always horrible |
| 08:22.02 | axlyin | HEY |
| 08:22.03 | onetwo | beowulf failure |
| 08:22.03 | axlyin | DO NOT |
| 08:22.05 | axlyin | KNOCK |
| 08:22.07 | axlyin | FF |
| 08:22.10 | MavercK | lol |
| 08:22.15 | axlyin | spirits within OR AC |
| 08:22.25 | onetwo | plus fully cg wont sell |
| 08:22.26 | MavercK | imagine if AC was live action |
| 08:22.28 | onetwo | unless its a kid movie |
| 08:22.29 | MavercK | i think i'd cry |
| 08:22.35 | axlyin | </aggressive defense of FF> |
| 08:22.40 | onetwo | which means that if they made a purely cg movie, they probably couldnt get big names |
| 08:22.41 | onetwo | good acting |
| 08:22.49 | onetwo | good writing |
| 08:22.52 | axlyin | want to know what FF would look like live acting? |
| 08:22.52 | MavercK | they get big names doing voice work already |
| 08:22.54 | onetwo | itd end up being dranei in space |
| 08:22.56 | onetwo | oh wait |
| 08:22.57 | onetwo | oops |
| 08:23.06 | axlyin | the dragonball movie |
| 08:23.08 | axlyin | look at goku's hair |
| 08:23.09 | MavercK | lol |
| 08:23.12 | axlyin | then look at clouds |
| 08:23.12 | onetwo | :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( |
| 08:23.16 | axlyin | and see why you fail |
| 08:23.20 | MavercK | i was having this talk to a friend actually |
| 08:23.24 | MavercK | kinda funny coincidence |
| 08:23.28 | axlyin | XD |
| 08:23.34 | MavercK | i told him if he says megan fox should play kerrigan i'd stab in the eye |
| 08:23.35 | axlyin | I stalk you |
| 08:23.37 | MavercK | he laughed |
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| 08:23.52 | axlyin | megan fox is meh |
| 08:24.06 | MavercK | thats nice of you |
| 08:24.09 | MavercK | to speak of her so highly |
| 08:24.13 | axlyin | lmao |
| 08:24.20 | onetwo | shes dark but too young |
| 08:24.22 | axlyin | Millia Jovovich? |
| 08:24.23 | onetwo | rrowland has it right |
| 08:24.26 | axlyin | >.> |
| 08:24.32 | MavercK | only good movie that chick made was 5th element |
| 08:24.38 | MavercK | and maybe first RE |
| 08:24.40 | onetwo | ah that was great |
| 08:24.43 | axlyin | my fav movie of all time |
| 08:24.44 | onetwo | 5th element |
| 08:24.46 | axlyin | is 5th element lol |
| 08:24.51 | onetwo | its so good |
| 08:24.56 | axlyin | aye |
| 08:25.01 | MavercK | :) |
| 08:25.03 | axlyin | I watch it like |
| 08:25.06 | axlyin | at least once a month |
| 08:25.12 | onetwo | you know, why cant we just have fun + good movies like that |
| 08:25.16 | onetwo | instead of last airbender failing |
| 08:25.18 | onetwo | A team |
| 08:25.20 | onetwo | etc |
| 08:25.20 | MavercK | lmfao i just checked rrowland's propganda poster he linked |
| 08:25.21 | MavercK | bwahahaha |
| 08:25.22 | axlyin | ugh |
| 08:25.24 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 08:25.26 | axlyin | i saw airbender today |
| 08:25.28 | onetwo | yeah? |
| 08:25.29 | axlyin | x.x |
| 08:25.37 | onetwo | maybe were getting older |
| 08:25.38 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 08:25.38 | axlyin | i have a question |
| 08:25.41 | axlyin | is there an ACTUAL book |
| 08:25.42 | onetwo | but i think its just crappier out there today |
| 08:25.44 | axlyin | for airbender? |
| 08:25.52 | MavercK | just a cartoon series i think |
| 08:25.52 | axlyin | or books |
| 08:26.10 | onetwo | m night shyamalan |
| 08:26.15 | onetwo | is not a good director |
| 08:26.20 | onetwo | i think sixth sense was just a luck idea |
| 08:26.22 | onetwo | with good actors |
| 08:26.28 | axlyin | but from what I hear |
| 08:26.31 | axlyin | Eclipse was amazing |
| 08:26.32 | onetwo | but all m nights subsequent movies appear to be dieing of WRITING and ACTING |
| 08:26.35 | axlyin | which was shyamalan |
| 08:26.35 | onetwo | which means he cant direct |
| 08:26.44 | onetwo | oh |
| 08:26.46 | onetwo | well havent seen that |
| 08:26.53 | axlyin | I think |
| 08:26.56 | MavercK | Unbreakable is awesome |
| 08:26.59 | MavercK | one of my favorite movies |
| 08:26.59 | axlyin | he had all his time pressed into eclipse |
| 08:27.00 | onetwo | the happening could have been great |
| 08:27.01 | axlyin | I mean come on |
| 08:27.03 | onetwo | it could have been chilling |
| 08:27.08 | onetwo | i dont know whats going on |
| 08:27.10 | axlyin | 2 shymalan movies releasing within a day of each other? |
| 08:27.11 | Fatal5101 | i feel proud of myself. i made a 6 effect, 2 behavior, 2 validator, 1 weapon attack. from start to finsh without testing anything along the way and it worked near perfectly at the end aside from 1 very small problem. |
| 08:27.18 | onetwo | nice |
| 08:27.22 | axlyin | grats |
| 08:27.23 | MavercK | lol gratz |
| 08:27.36 | MavercK | a chain lightning? :P |
| 08:27.38 | rrowland | That was angelina jolie btw |
| 08:27.38 | Fatal5101 | nope |
| 08:27.46 | MavercK | ah damn |
| 08:27.47 | Fatal5101 | a infection tower! |
| 08:27.56 | MavercK | *steals that idea* |
| 08:27.57 | axlyin | an |
| 08:28.08 | MavercK | jk |
| 08:28.34 | axlyin | ugh |
| 08:28.37 | axlyin | now I have to think of talents |
| 08:28.44 | axlyin | for my hero talent trees |
| 08:29.09 | axlyin | for 12 heroes |
| 08:29.23 | axlyin | each have around 4-5 abilities |
| 08:29.24 | axlyin | err |
| 08:29.25 | axlyin | 3-4 |
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| 08:30.00 | Squeegeez | hey Sholdak, you there? |
| 08:31.24 | axlyin | lol i'm totally jacking WoW talents |
| 08:31.48 | axlyin | my infested terran hero "Plague Walker" Is in essence a warlock |
| 08:31.53 | axlyin | his attack is actually shadowbolt |
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| 08:32.24 | axlyin | he has corruption, which i changed to a damage multiplier, plague of agony (curse of agony), fear, and siphon life |
| 08:32.51 | axlyin | oh that reminds me |
| 08:32.56 | axlyin | anyone here good with beams? |
| 08:32.59 | axlyin | I can't get mine to work |
| 08:33.08 | axlyin | I need a fackin beam tut |
| 08:34.09 | onetwo | prozaic made 2 |
| 08:34.14 | onetwo | did you know? |
| 08:34.15 | axlyin | o? |
| 08:34.20 | axlyin | on sc2mapster.com? |
| 08:34.43 | onetwo | yes |
| 08:34.43 | onetwo | sec |
| 08:34.48 | axlyin | o.o |
| 08:35.01 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/3939-data-working-with-beams-beginner-difficulty/#p1 |
| 08:35.08 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/3888-data-beam-chain-w-o-missiles-intermediate-difficulty/ |
| 08:35.10 | onetwo | enjoy |
| 08:35.15 | axlyin | ty! |
| 08:35.20 | axlyin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.55 | Squeegeez | ProzaicMuze, you get your video rendered? |
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| 08:36.23 | axlyin | that readin will be for tomorrow |
| 08:37.04 | axlyin | hey onetwo |
| 08:37.15 | onetwo | ? |
| 08:37.23 | axlyin | is there a way to have a % based chance for an ability to land? |
| 08:37.33 | axlyin | I want to make a wandering plague esque effect |
| 08:37.45 | Pierro | yup |
| 08:37.48 | axlyin | and have it in talents |
| 08:37.50 | axlyin | orly? |
| 08:37.51 | Pierro | your ability |
| 08:37.56 | Pierro | that cast |
| 08:38.02 | Pierro | mmust have a set effect |
| 08:38.11 | Pierro | then in the Set Effect |
| 08:38.34 | Pierro | you put ChampCreateTestItemSet EDSTR_CATEGORY_FieldType_Effect - Effets(Destroy Crate|CreateComputer) |
| 08:38.37 | Pierro | in this field |
| 08:38.47 | onetwo | do what he said |
| 08:38.48 | onetwo | i have no idea |
| 08:38.48 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:38.49 | Pierro | instead of (destroy crate |
| 08:39.00 | Pierro | you put 4 blank line |
| 08:39.10 | Pierro | You click 4 time on the green X icon |
| 08:39.20 | Pierro | then the 5 th line you add your plague effect |
| 08:39.26 | axlyin | o.o |
| 08:39.32 | Pierro | then you cehc random |
| 08:39.37 | Pierro | there is a field |
| 08:39.42 | Pierro | in the Set Effect |
| 08:39.48 | Pierro | activate it |
| 08:39.57 | Pierro | and then |
| 08:39.59 | axlyin | >.> |
| 08:40.03 | Pierro | max number effect |
| 08:40.04 | Pierro | 1 |
| 08:40.05 | axlyin | ok where do i put the champ thing in the set effect |
| 08:40.11 | Pierro | min 1 |
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| 08:40.29 | Pierro | champ mean filedin French |
| 08:40.33 | Pierro | field |
| 08:40.49 | Pierro | jsut look for Effect effect |
| 08:40.58 | Pierro | then add 4 blank lines |
| 08:41.02 | axlyin | ok |
| 08:41.07 | Pierro | then the 5th with your plague effect |
| 08:41.16 | Pierro | then back to the Set effect |
| 08:41.21 | Pierro | activate random |
| 08:41.33 | axlyin | OH |
| 08:41.34 | axlyin | i see |
| 08:41.35 | Pierro | Effects - Random activate |
| 08:41.49 | Pierro | then Effect - Max 1 |
| 08:41.53 | axlyin | the whole createtestitemset edstr_category thing |
| 08:41.56 | Pierro | Effect min 1 |
| 08:41.57 | axlyin | confused teh hell out of me |
| 08:42.14 | Squeegeez | Does anybody familiar with setting data entry fields through the trigger editor? I can't seem to figure out this catalog thing =/ |
| 08:42.25 | Squeegeez | is* |
| 08:42.26 | Pierro | lol |
| 08:42.46 | axlyin | so basically, the number of blank lines is the %, so if I have 9 blank lines and my effect on the 10th line, it'd b 10%? |
| 08:42.53 | Pierro | yes |
| 08:42.56 | axlyin | coolies |
| 08:43.06 | axlyin | ty much :D |
| 08:43.11 | Pierro | your welcome |
| 08:43.28 | Pierro | back to my scv fortress survival |
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| 08:54.44 | rrowland | Man I should invest in poker |
| 08:55.00 | rrowland | Started out with $1000 chips, now I've got $500k |
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| 08:55.56 | onetwo | i think though |
| 08:56.03 | onetwo | the game totally changes with real money |
| 08:56.11 | onetwo | but find someone who will pay for your fake chips |
| 08:56.17 | onetwo | i knew a friend who did that exchange |
| 08:56.20 | onetwo | to get his initial real money |
| 08:57.27 | axlyin | alright i'mma try to hit the bed, now that my fiance rolled over off of my side lol |
| 08:57.53 | axlyin | thanks for all the help guize |
| 08:57.59 | axlyin | gnight |
| 09:03.21 | onetwo | i look at the actor for the scv attack |
| 09:03.22 | onetwo | and think |
| 09:03.25 | onetwo | this is pointless |
| 09:03.29 | onetwo | it doesnt even use the sounds or models |
| 09:03.44 | onetwo | all sound is done through scv attack launch actor |
| 09:03.46 | onetwo | which is just a sound actor |
| 09:03.49 | onetwo | no visuals |
| 09:03.53 | onetwo | so scv attack actor is useless |
| 09:03.56 | onetwo | from what i can tell |
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| 11:08.49 | wOlfLinG | How would i change the high templars default animation? I want it to use the 'Stand channel' one rather than the stand. |
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| 11:33.07 | wOlfLinG | How do i make an actor play a certain animation when moving? I can't find it in events :/ |
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| 11:34.02 | Demonette | Mmhhh can i change the texture path of a .m3 model without having a 3dsmax? |
| 11:34.20 | wOlfLinG | Is anyone actually here? -.- |
| 11:34.58 | madsquare | its not the best time right now |
| 11:35.12 | wOlfLinG | so i see |
| 11:35.18 | madsquare | also people probably dont answer if they cant helpt you |
| 11:36.14 | wOlfLinG | Well, right now my custom HT actor doesn't play a move animation |
| 11:36.43 | wOlfLinG | Although it does play an attack one |
| 11:40.38 | Demonette | Mmmhhh |
| 11:53.32 | Squeegeez | this isn't good, my map editor is crashing more frequently nowadays |
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| 12:20.39 | ProzaicMuze | @Wolf - MovementUpdate.[Unit].Walk |
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| 12:20.59 | ProzaicMuze | Might be UnitMovementUpdate though |
| 12:21.19 | ProzaicMuze | squeegeez, I did indeed get my vid semi-compressed lol |
| 12:21.29 | Squeegeez | oh good |
| 12:22.02 | Squeegeez | i still haven't figured out my changing the data editor values through catalog triggers yet |
| 12:22.16 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrIMhatLBOs |
| 12:22.23 | ProzaicMuze | For the vid |
| 12:22.31 | ProzaicMuze | and I have no idea how to do that either ;) |
| 12:22.52 | wOlfLinG | Would it be an Animation bracket or animation play? |
| 12:23.49 | ProzaicMuze | animation play if you just want it to play a single animation |
| 12:24.56 | ProzaicMuze | and I really need to remember to change my nick to PM|sleep or something like that whenI goto sleep |
| 12:25.06 | ProzaicMuze | I got like 10 diff queries of people tryin' to reach me since they thought I was still online Xp |
| 12:25.37 | Squeegeez | heh |
| 12:30.17 | wOlfLinG | :/ Not working |
| 12:30.38 | Squeegeez | neat video Muze, how do you suppose they do this though? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIkPcMbR5HE&feature=related |
| 12:30.44 | Squeegeez | a crap load of data editing? |
| 12:34.05 | ProzaicMuze | It's a lot of launch offsets, custom movers and piercing projectiles |
| 12:34.45 | ProzaicMuze | But yeh, it's a fair amount of data editing as once you have the missile type working how you want, you then have to duplicate it a number of times equal to the missiles you see being launched lol |
| 12:36.41 | wOlfLinG | Thats a lot of missiles |
| 12:37.07 | ProzaicMuze | Aye |
| 12:37.15 | ProzaicMuze | like a some parts he's just got create persistents going down |
| 12:37.24 | ProzaicMuze | where it summons all those globes around him |
| 12:37.33 | ProzaicMuze | He might actually just have those be flying units he summons |
| 12:37.43 | ProzaicMuze | then he says "issue order" and has them move to their destination |
| 12:38.04 | ProzaicMuze | And then they have a very small aura on them that makes them hit you if they "walk" by you |
| 12:39.09 | wOlfLinG | Also, proziac, any way to find out a models attachment places? I want to attack a guardian shield to my unit :) |
| 12:39.33 | ProzaicMuze | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nb5Ohbt1Sg&feature=related |
| 12:39.36 | ProzaicMuze | Now THAT is crazy |
| 12:39.55 | ProzaicMuze | What do you mean Wolf? |
| 12:40.05 | ProzaicMuze | OH, where you can anchor? |
| 12:40.15 | ProzaicMuze | Go to the unit in the previewer and press "A" |
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| 12:44.32 | wOlfLinG | Ok, that last video... Is that guy haxing? |
| 12:46.35 | ProzaicMuze | no idea |
| 12:46.49 | ProzaicMuze | but I would prolly have a siezure if I attempted to play that game Xp |
| 12:48.19 | Squeegeez | i was watching that video, and was too mesmerized to see that you had posted a link to the video i was watching o_O |
| 12:48.31 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
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| 12:55.05 | zstepek | Hey, all... just looked for the editor for the first time since installing, and it's not in my root install directory, nor is it in support. Thoughts? |
| 12:56.03 | ProzaicMuze | I think you have to download it in some cases. |
| 12:56.23 | Squeegeez | C:\Program Files\StarCraft II Beta |
| 12:56.27 | Squeegeez | that's where mine is |
| 12:56.29 | zstepek | And, of course, with the game down until phase 2, that will be more difficult. |
| 12:56.39 | Squeegeez | i can get you a link |
| 12:56.44 | zstepek | I looked there (well, Program Files (x86) |
| 12:57.06 | A1win | you need to update it, and you can't until the beta continues |
| 12:57.08 | A1win | if you haven't already |
| 12:57.23 | zstepek | Right. I'm running patch 15, I think. |
| 12:57.24 | A1win | the editor wasn't there from the beginning |
| 12:57.30 | A1win | well that should have it |
| 12:57.44 | zstepek | That's what I thought. |
| 12:57.45 | A1win | it's in the same folder where the game exe is |
| 12:57.50 | zstepek | Yeah, it's not there. |
| 12:58.11 | zstepek | Only file there is StarCraft II |
| 12:58.24 | Squeegeez | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/3/793/StarCraft_II_Editor.exe |
| 12:58.27 | A1win | then you probably don't have patch 15? |
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| 13:00.42 | zstepek | With the exe, getting sc2editor not installed errors. |
| 13:01.04 | zstepek | I'll just wait for phase 2, I suppose :) |
| 13:01.58 | vjeux | what's wrong zstepek? |
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| 13:02.43 | zstepek | My install doesn't have the editor, for some reason... I'm positive I'm running patch 15, since I played on the last day of beta with this install. |
| 13:03.00 | zstepek | it's not in the root install folder, and it's not in the support folder under that. |
| 13:03.07 | `MindWorX | I have a torrent for my version with the editor |
| 13:03.27 | `MindWorX | Tho my upload speed is limited to around 300kb/s so it'll take a while for you to get it |
| 13:03.47 | zstepek | lol anything is better than waiting for next week or the week after :P |
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| 13:03.54 | vjeux | that's really strange |
| 13:04.08 | zstepek | yeah, I've been banging my head against a wall here for about a half an hour |
| 13:04.36 | zstepek | I'd decided I finally wanted to dig in, since phase 2 hadn't started yet and I was bored :) |
| 13:04.41 | `MindWorX | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/992656/StarCraft%20II%20Beta.7z.torrent |
| 13:04.43 | `MindWorX | There you go |
| 13:04.49 | zstepek | ty |
| 13:04.56 | `MindWorX | It's around 10gb |
| 13:05.13 | `MindWorX | My friend who i made it for had it down in about a day |
| 13:05.31 | zstepek | nice, I really appreciate it |
| 13:06.36 | vjeux | are you seeding it `MindWorX ? |
| 13:06.40 | `MindWorX | Yea |
| 13:06.53 | vjeux | ok |
| 13:07.11 | vjeux | have added the torrent on my dedicated server |
| 13:07.30 | vjeux | it should be easier to seed it to other people thanks to that |
| 13:07.35 | `MindWorX | Yea |
| 13:07.47 | zstepek | very nice |
| 13:08.01 | `MindWorX | It's Base15655 |
| 13:08.03 | `MindWorX | Incase it matters |
| 13:08.08 | `MindWorX | Alright, i see the first peer now |
| 13:08.22 | `MindWorX | Someone at comcast.net |
| 13:08.31 | zstepek | that would be me |
| 13:08.35 | `MindWorX | Alrighty |
| 13:10.08 | vjeux | the torrent is started on my box, but doesn't get any download yet |
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| 13:10.57 | `MindWorX | I have a peer that's on a ipv6 address that's not downloading from me |
| 13:12.34 | zstepek | yeah, I've got 2 peers, I'm guessing MindWorX is the one in .de? |
| 13:12.44 | zstepek | lol .dk |
| 13:12.46 | zstepek | :) |
| 13:12.48 | `MindWorX | dk would be me yes |
| 13:12.56 | vjeux | french would be me :p |
| 13:13.06 | `MindWorX | No french on the list |
| 13:13.25 | `MindWorX | Only the american zstepek |
| 13:13.27 | `MindWorX | :P |
| 13:13.28 | wOlfLinG | I would help with the seeding, but im not sure my HDD can take another 10gb of stuff :/ |
| 13:13.31 | zstepek | just shows up as an unresolvable IPv6 address |
| 13:13.52 | `MindWorX | vjeux, If you give me your port and ip, i can add you manually |
| 13:14.42 | vjeux | hmm, have no idea what's the port behind :x |
| 13:15.04 | `MindWorX | Options->Preferences->Connection |
| 13:15.09 | `MindWorX | Incase you're using uTorrent |
| 13:16.16 | vjeux | it's a server side torrent using some strange interface |
| 13:17.10 | zstepek | amazed I'm getting 157k from across the pond |
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| 13:17.44 | Vulfe | Hola hombres |
| 13:17.54 | Vulfe | The vulfester is back from spain |
| 13:18.44 | wOlfLinG | meh |
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| 13:20.58 | `MindWorX | Silly gpu |
| 13:21.26 | `MindWorX | Even more silly that i finnaly got a new one that doesn't crash my computer, and it's too big to be in my computer case |
| 13:22.29 | `MindWorX | So no i also have to by a new computer case |
| 13:22.34 | `MindWorX | It's not easy upgrading your computer :P |
| 13:23.15 | `MindWorX | Atleast i'm pretty sure my PSU is big enough to handle the new GPU |
| 13:23.55 | zstepek | lol |
| 13:24.08 | zstepek | Yeah, upgrading is a pain... I just replace, these days. |
| 13:24.34 | `MindWorX | Atleast this is one serious upgrade |
| 13:24.56 | zstepek | Of course, I'm on a Core i7 iMac (and before you ask, yes, I'm trying to run the map editor from a Windows 7 partition in Bootcamp LOL) |
| 13:25.01 | `MindWorX | I have a GForce 9600 GT now, and i'll be getting a GEForce 285 GTX |
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| 13:25.22 | zstepek | that is a substantial upgrade! |
| 13:26.13 | `MindWorX | Indeed |
| 13:27.11 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/terran-units/. Terran Units. Wunterwaffen (Manager/Author). Approved by vjeux. |
| 13:29.23 | `MindWorX | Are you sure you're port forwarded properly vjeux? |
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| 13:36.12 | zstepek | well, I'm going to rest since I haven't been to bed yet... and it's 7am here |
| 13:36.13 | zstepek | I'll catch you all later, though, I'm sure |
| 13:37.12 | zstepek | thx again MindWorX |
| 13:37.36 | `MindWorX | No problem |
| 13:37.46 | `MindWorX | I'll leave it seeding until you say it's done :) |
| 13:38.02 | `MindWorX | And ofcourse, longer incase someone else wants to get it |
| 13:39.30 | Phaos | whats seeding? |
| 13:40.01 | `MindWorX | My version of SC2 with the editor |
| 13:40.11 | Phaos | ah |
| 13:40.16 | `MindWorX | I made a torrent for a friend a few days ago, and now zstepek wants it too :) |
| 13:40.21 | Phaos | your on an older version? |
| 13:40.26 | `MindWorX | Maybe |
| 13:40.41 | `MindWorX | Base15655 |
| 13:40.50 | Hati | phew phew |
| 13:41.05 | Phaos | nup ur up to date |
| 13:41.08 | Hati | Base15655 is latest ver |
| 13:41.28 | `MindWorX | Alright |
| 13:41.53 | Phaos | actually we are all out of date according to bnet2.0 |
| 13:42.31 | `MindWorX | True :P |
| 13:42.54 | Phaos | I am excite for this alone |
| 13:43.44 | Helral | hmmmm what to build into my rdm now.... |
| 13:49.25 | ProzaicMuze | Helral, here in a lil' bit I'd like to bounce some ideas off yeh for that rally point system I mentioned yesterday. Do yeh have time? |
| 13:49.51 | Helral | sure |
| 13:50.03 | ProzaicMuze | sweet deal :) |
| 13:50.12 | Helral | is thinking about what building would be good as a shop building ;p |
| 13:50.30 | Phaos | ProzaicMuze just the guy I am looking for, yes I am going to badger you for advice.. again |
| 13:50.48 | Phaos | (mercenary bunker Helral) |
| 13:51.11 | ProzaicMuze | Eep! |
| 13:51.18 | ProzaicMuze | Not teh badgering! Anything but that! |
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| 13:51.39 | wOlfLinG | Helral, im using the templer archives i think it is |
| 13:51.56 | wOlfLinG | Either that or the twilight council. I don't play protoss xD |
| 13:52.09 | Helral | is checking out twilight council ;p |
| 13:53.15 | Phaos | Ok so laik Prozaic |
| 13:53.18 | wOlfLinG | Its templer archives im using |
| 13:53.18 | Helral | hmmm what handles the footprint shadow? |
| 13:53.24 | Phaos | how can does i does the thing and the stuff ? |
| 13:53.40 | ProzaicMuze | Well you can haz like a unit that does like he does and makes what he makes that causes stuff? |
| 13:53.48 | Helral | found it ;p |
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| 13:54.10 | Helral | hmmm or not.... |
| 13:54.33 | Phaos | o rite! |
| 13:54.43 | ProzaicMuze | :D |
| 13:54.46 | Helral | bloody editor faded out the footprint cause I changed it.... it was slowly fading in..... |
| 13:55.09 | vjeux | germany / argentina! |
| 13:55.16 | vjeux | "final" of the world cup :p |
| 13:55.17 | Phaos | ok but really ... -_- how do you offset the launch location of a projectile. I have tried many a thing |
| 13:56.10 | Phaos | right now it's coming from the center of the unit. but thats not where the gun is :P |
| 13:57.52 | Helral | vjeux: did ya watch - Netherlands / Brasil ? |
| 13:58.03 | vjeux | the end of it |
| 13:58.37 | Hati | its not fun running with a blue/white shirt through the town atm |
| 13:58.39 | Hati | in germany :x |
| 13:59.52 | Helral | http://www.metronews.ca/toronto/world/article/569143--fireworks-injure-dutch-consul-in-rio-de-janeiro <-- result of the dutch footbal victory of brasil. |
| 14:00.06 | Helral | over* |
| 14:03.21 | Hati | !!! |
| 14:03.26 | vjeux | o;g |
| 14:04.02 | Helral | anyone know how to fix a buildings shadow after you've scaled it down? |
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| 14:06.14 | Phaos | I think I killed prozaic |
| 14:07.10 | Helral | with fireworks? |
| 14:07.38 | Phaos | no with attachment questions |
| 14:07.41 | Phaos | :( |
| 14:08.57 | ProzaicMuze | sorry, watchin' TV lol |
| 14:09.03 | ProzaicMuze | BUT |
| 14:09.18 | ProzaicMuze | You need to have your attack events setup properly |
| 14:09.36 | ProzaicMuze | Look at the MarauderLM |
| 14:09.41 | ProzaicMuze | and its related Actors |
| 14:09.54 | ProzaicMuze | compare the ones that are Effect.[blah].[blah] |
| 14:10.14 | ProzaicMuze | It's likely you're either missing one of the terms OR one of th events entirely |
| 14:10.29 | ProzaicMuze | If that's not it, then it has to do with your Site Operations. |
| 14:12.55 | Phaos | well it can't be to do with the events right? as it actually fires and performs how I want it to, the only problem at this point is that it's coming from his center and not the gun. I'v changed all the launch site SOps i could find to be from the gun. |
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| 14:13.35 | ProzaicMuze | lol, well, is it firing from the center of the unit ABOVE the ground or from between its feet IN the ground? |
| 14:14.59 | Phaos | definatly above the ground :P center, not origin ;) |
| 14:15.39 | ProzaicMuze | Then check yoru Launch Attachment Query |
| 14:15.47 | ProzaicMuze | Since it's fallback is "center" |
| 14:20.11 | Phaos | Launch Attachment Query+ : Weapon 6 : Weapon |
| 14:20.19 | Phaos | fallback is not center |
| 14:21.58 | ProzaicMuze | lol you changed the fallback? |
| 14:22.01 | ProzaicMuze | What unit is this? |
| 14:22.05 | ProzaicMuze | And does it have a Weapon06? |
| 14:23.29 | Phaos | I just double checked and yes |
| 14:23.33 | Phaos | it's Viking assault |
| 14:23.39 | Phaos | salso I might have been wrong |
| 14:23.43 | Phaos | I tested again |
| 14:24.01 | Phaos | and think it might be traveling along the ground it has no shadow so it's hard to tell |
| 14:24.39 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 14:24.43 | ProzaicMuze | then definitely check the events |
| 14:26.33 | Helral | why the hell doesn't scaling scale the shadow as well..... |
| 14:27.15 | ProzaicMuze | because shadows are ghey |
| 14:27.27 | Helral | can't seem to find how to remove the shadow :S |
| 14:27.56 | Helral | the footprint shadow that is. |
| 14:28.34 | Hati | reduce the footprint? |
| 14:28.39 | Helral | no effect. |
| 14:28.39 | Hati | to 1x1 instead of 2x2 ie? |
| 14:28.56 | Helral | the footprint itself is the basic 1x1 footprint. |
| 14:29.05 | Helral | instead of the 3x3 that the building originally had. |
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| 14:30.48 | Phaos | I'm looking at maraduar for inspiration. I don't see anything that pertains to shooting off senter other than the pattern |
| 14:30.51 | Phaos | center* |
| 14:31.06 | wOlfLinG | Anyone remember time bomb from the alpha? |
| 14:33.18 | wOlfLinG | Anyway, my Time lord has a permanent one :D |
| 14:33.43 | Helral | it never stops ticking? |
| 14:33.52 | ProzaicMuze | Phaos, you're looking at the events |
| 14:34.05 | ProzaicMuze | specifically things relating to all Effect.[stuff].Start |
| 14:34.20 | Phaos | yes I know thats what I am looking at |
| 14:34.29 | wOlfLinG | Lol, helral, its not that kind of time bomb xD |
| 14:34.36 | wOlfLinG | It slows time in an area :) |
| 14:34.47 | ProzaicMuze | Mmk, do you have all the "At" terms as well? |
| 14:34.57 | Phaos | I see a whole lotta at caster terms |
| 14:35.01 | ProzaicMuze | mmk |
| 14:35.01 | Phaos | and creates |
| 14:35.12 | ProzaicMuze | you want the one that has At Caster and something abotu EffectTreeDescendant |
| 14:35.17 | ProzaicMuze | for the Impact |
| 14:35.26 | ProzaicMuze | and then the one for Damage |
| 14:35.35 | ProzaicMuze | The ones abotu splash you can ignore |
| 14:35.48 | Phaos | Effect.MarauderU.start: At Caster: From Effect Tree Descendant |
| 14:35.55 | ProzaicMuze | Yes, that one |
| 14:36.14 | Phaos | It's not the impact thats an issue |
| 14:36.18 | Phaos | just the launch site |
| 14:36.33 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, but the impact event seems to be tied to it |
| 14:36.43 | Phaos | O.o |
| 14:36.45 | Phaos | weird |
| 14:36.47 | Hati | haha |
| 14:36.54 | ProzaicMuze | Don't ask me why or how, but sometimes that fixes the problem |
| 14:37.05 | ProzaicMuze | missiles are tempermental like that |
| 14:37.54 | Phaos | well I have already Effect.28bxSporeLauncherDamage.Start:At Caster:FromEffectTreeDescendant: Action Impact |
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| 14:40.54 | Helral | hmmm |
| 14:41.03 | ProzaicMuze | mmk, throw me your map, I'll take a look |
| 14:41.04 | Helral | even the trigger scaling doesn't affect the footprint.... |
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| 14:44.45 | Phaos | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/midnight-falling/files/6-midnight-falling-a0-0-6/ |
| 14:47.50 | wOlfLinG | Hmm... why is my archon based attack not being cast at its full range? |
| 14:48.06 | ProzaicMuze | woah, what teh massive offset on the missile launch? (5/5) |
| 14:48.14 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/tristram-item-loots-terrain-dummies-nuclear-reaction/ |
| 14:48.15 | vjeux | omg news |
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| 14:49.13 | Helral | vjeux: you never expecteed that news, now did ya? ;p |
| 14:49.25 | vjeux | what? |
| 14:49.30 | Vulfe | Oh snap |
| 14:49.45 | Helral | lol |
| 14:50.09 | Vulfe | Germany is winning |
| 14:50.11 | Vulfe | Not okay |
| 14:50.17 | Beider | auch, making a name entry dialog |
| 14:50.20 | Beider | that must have taken a lot of time |
| 14:50.41 | wOlfLinG | ooh. Helral. i think i may have fixed your problem :D |
| 14:50.47 | Beider | as far as I know you can't translate the preset for keyboard keys to a character |
| 14:50.55 | Beider | without a switch or if statement |
| 14:51.04 | wOlfLinG | In models theres a field 'Shadow radius'. Would changing that to 0 work? |
| 14:51.12 | Helral | nope no effect at all |
| 14:51.17 | wOlfLinG | Ah :/ |
| 14:52.13 | wOlfLinG | Anyway, why would my archon beam only attack at 3 range or so, when the actual weapon is at 5? |
| 14:53.07 | Vulfe | Is the beta back up yet? |
| 14:53.12 | Vulfe | I was off the internet for 10 days x.x |
| 14:53.44 | vjeux | nop |
| 14:53.52 | Beider | Nuclear reaction looks fun |
| 14:54.26 | Vulfe | Looks like all of the abilities do similar thingies |
| 14:54.30 | Vulfe | most of them |
| 14:54.31 | Vulfe | at least |
| 14:55.36 | ProzaicMuze | Did you HAVE to news Mozared's terrain tutorial? |
| 14:55.45 | ProzaicMuze | Now he's gonna brag about it all day and toot his horn |
| 14:55.50 | ProzaicMuze | how am I s'posed to make fun of him now!? |
| 14:56.38 | Vulfe | idk |
| 14:56.41 | Vulfe | I'm reading it |
| 14:56.44 | Vulfe | feeding his ego |
| 14:56.50 | vjeux | lol ProzaicMuze :p |
| 14:57.14 | ProzaicMuze | Phaos, are you wanting it to come out of the spore thing or the vikings mechanical arm? |
| 14:57.25 | Phaos | the spore thing |
| 14:57.43 | vjeux | Helral or ProzaicMuze: one of you is motivated to update the tutorial listing? |
| 14:57.44 | vjeux | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/tutorials/ |
| 14:58.16 | ProzaicMuze | :S |
| 14:58.21 | Helral | I'm not motivated to update the listings. |
| 14:58.29 | Vulfe | Motivation |
| 14:58.31 | Vulfe | what's that? |
| 14:58.39 | Helral | maybe Vulfe wants to do it ;p |
| 14:58.42 | ProzaicMuze | Does that involve deleting everyone but my own tutorials to improve my awesomeness? If so, I'm in :D |
| 14:58.50 | vjeux | xD |
| 14:58.58 | Vulfe | Vulfe doesn't want to do it. |
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| 14:59.08 | ProzaicMuze | It might be a while, but I can take a look through it |
| 14:59.18 | Vulfe | Gawd, sometimes I hate the summer |
| 14:59.28 | Vulfe | only home for 1 day before leaving for a month |
| 14:59.31 | Helral | I always hate summer ;p |
| 14:59.31 | Vulfe | awesome |
| 14:59.40 | Vulfe | also, I'm the whitest person ever |
| 14:59.42 | Helral | way too hot. |
| 14:59.47 | Helral | no you aren't Vulfe. |
| 14:59.49 | Vulfe | sunburns = bad |
| 14:59.53 | Helral | unless you're an albino |
| 14:59.53 | Vulfe | yeah |
| 15:00.01 | Vulfe | Helral |
| 15:00.04 | Vulfe | Don't get smart with me |
| 15:00.08 | Helral | ;p |
| 15:00.13 | Vulfe | everyone knows albinos aren't people |
| 15:00.13 | Helral | I don't get smart with you. |
| 15:00.13 | ProzaicMuze | Phaos, you need to make a Site actor to get it to launch from the spore lol |
| 15:00.14 | Helral | O |
| 15:00.19 | Helral | I'm always smart ;p |
| 15:00.29 | Phaos | I have one :O |
| 15:00.30 | ProzaicMuze | No, you're a cat |
| 15:00.32 | Phaos | well |
| 15:00.33 | ProzaicMuze | Cats aren't smart |
| 15:00.38 | Phaos | I have one that will work |
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| 15:00.47 | Vulfe | How do site actors work |
| 15:00.48 | Helral | meows intelligently |
| 15:00.55 | Phaos | I only need it to come from the same SOp as the mechanical arm the spore launcher is attached to |
| 15:00.55 | Vulfe | is not a cat |
| 15:01.00 | ProzaicMuze | @Vulfe they host websites |
| 15:01.01 | ProzaicMuze | Mainly porn |
| 15:01.04 | Vulfe | is a wolf |
| 15:01.04 | Phaos | which is weapon6 on the viking |
| 15:01.18 | vjeux | ProzaicMuze: you've got competition! |
| 15:01.18 | vjeux | http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/starcraft-ii-408/uberlisk-style-units-171761/ |
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| 15:02.05 | ProzaicMuze | I guess I'll have to go trash his tutorial and explain why he should /wrist his life away |
| 15:02.07 | Vulfe | A wild tutorial approaches! |
| 15:02.14 | ProzaicMuze | @Phaos, you DON'T have a "Site" actor |
| 15:02.37 | ProzaicMuze | Unless it's named something crazy |
| 15:02.40 | ProzaicMuze | Right now you have the attachment model |
| 15:02.42 | Phaos | I so do! SOpAttachWeapon6 |
| 15:02.43 | ProzaicMuze | the Site Ops |
| 15:02.51 | ProzaicMuze | the Missle Actor and the Missile Attack Actor |
| 15:02.53 | Phaos | oh there is a difference |
| 15:03.01 | ProzaicMuze | That leaves teh Site Actor |
| 15:03.02 | ProzaicMuze | yeah |
| 15:03.06 | Phaos | O.o |
| 15:03.08 | Phaos | hokay |
| 15:03.08 | ProzaicMuze | If you go to create a new actor, look for Site |
| 15:03.13 | Phaos | kay |
| 15:03.18 | ProzaicMuze | Then have the Site actor create when the Attachment Model is made |
| 15:03.42 | ProzaicMuze | Set its host to the attachment model and its Site Ops to the location on the spore launcher you want it to fire from |
| 15:03.42 | Phaos | is CActorSite fine ? |
| 15:03.52 | ProzaicMuze | Then go to the missile attack actor and set it's Launch Site to this site actor |
| 15:03.53 | ProzaicMuze | yep |
| 15:03.57 | ProzaicMuze | you can use the default "Based On" |
| 15:05.09 | ProzaicMuze | lmfao |
| 15:05.13 | ProzaicMuze | nvm Vjeux |
| 15:05.23 | ProzaicMuze | they actually pointed directly to my tutorial as what to look at. |
| 15:05.46 | vjeux | well, he should join the contest :) |
| 15:05.55 | ProzaicMuze | In otherwords, I'm pretty sure he used my tutorial to make the units, then showed off the units and said "Look here to see how I did it" |
| 15:06.02 | ProzaicMuze | So more rep for me :D |
| 15:06.05 | vjeux | yeah |
| 15:06.13 | ProzaicMuze | I'd love to see that super carrier in the contest |
| 15:06.19 | ProzaicMuze | provided he adds soem wicked site actors to it |
| 15:06.22 | ProzaicMuze | It's a pretty neat idea |
| 15:06.32 | ProzaicMuze | But of course, my secret entry will rockzors teh most! |
| 15:07.01 | vjeux | xD |
| 15:07.28 | vjeux | we need to stimulate people to enter the contest! |
| 15:07.58 | Helral | wonders if you could create a metal turtle using the terran buildings with attachment stuff.... |
| 15:08.12 | ProzaicMuze | Well, keep in mind most of the entries will come later |
| 15:08.21 | ProzaicMuze | mainly because it's a fairly complex contest compared to previous |
| 15:08.24 | ProzaicMuze | AND it's new to most people |
| 15:08.30 | ProzaicMuze | whereas the spell contest most people had already figured out |
| 15:08.50 | Phaos | *rage* |
| 15:08.51 | Helral | awaits the rdm contest.... |
| 15:08.58 | ProzaicMuze | lol, did that fix it Phaos? |
| 15:09.05 | Phaos | nope |
| 15:09.09 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 15:09.22 | ProzaicMuze | mmk, I'll send you a map in a lil' bit when I fix it on this map |
| 15:09.25 | ProzaicMuze | And walk yeh through what I did |
| 15:10.19 | Phaos | attachment query = center, launchsite = new site, new site made, new site has the spore launcher as host, and SOpAttachCenter, Sporelauncher has ActorCreation:create newsite |
| 15:10.38 | Phaos | what did I leave out ? |
| 15:12.24 | Beider | anyone here who has experience with programming language interpreters |
| 15:12.25 | ProzaicMuze | Well, I still need to look through the rest of the parts to make sure something else wasn't also causing the problem. |
| 15:12.36 | ProzaicMuze | Since you can have a site and still have a problem if one of the parts is interferring. |
| 15:12.53 | ProzaicMuze | Also, is your missile supposed to return? |
| 15:12.55 | Phaos | true that, i did mess with alot of stuff trying to get it to work |
| 15:12.59 | Phaos | no :P |
| 15:13.00 | ProzaicMuze | Or is it just a single shot? |
| 15:13.07 | ProzaicMuze | mmk, then I'm gonna toss out some stuff you don't need |
| 15:13.08 | Phaos | it's a single shot |
| 15:13.29 | Phaos | just meant to puke a fat spore onto the enemy |
| 15:13.48 | Phaos | once thats fixed I'll make it explode in green death gas |
| 15:17.08 | Phaos | also ProzaicMuze when you test it take the time to irradiate some Worms wit hthe science vessel |
| 15:17.22 | Phaos | or alternativly chuck a control device on their head :D |
| 15:18.35 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 15:18.48 | ProzaicMuze | Just to "be impressed" or to check for bugs? |
| 15:19.59 | Phaos | all of the above. and if you have any opinions on asthetics too |
| 15:20.25 | Phaos | once you see what irradiate does to the worms, I have a couple questions about it |
| 15:22.09 | ProzaicMuze | pfft, no lazr beems on teh irradiate. it sux, reemuv it! |
| 15:23.02 | Phaos | D: |
| 15:23.53 | Phaos | so the Protein blobs that pop. they go flying off and spawn in funny places. thats the grid restriction at a guess. but I'm wondering if there is more accurate way to get them to spawn |
| 15:24.04 | ProzaicMuze | how do you want them to spawn? |
| 15:24.15 | Phaos | pretty much smack bang where the worm dies |
| 15:24.25 | ProzaicMuze | then put an "at" |
| 15:24.28 | vjeux | 2 - 0 ! |
| 15:24.29 | vjeux | germany |
| 15:24.44 | Phaos | that is apparently crashing it :P |
| 15:25.01 | Phaos | if I have the spawn range within 100 it crashes SC2 |
| 15:25.02 | Helral | germany won? |
| 15:25.03 | Phaos | xD |
| 15:25.37 | wOlfLinG | If germany wins the world cup our german teacher will be... extremely annoying >:( |
| 15:25.38 | Vulfe | not cool |
| 15:25.40 | Vulfe | 2 nil germany |
| 15:25.57 | wOlfLinG | Eurovision and a world cup in 1 year is not a good combo |
| 15:26.00 | Helral | germany won't win the world cup ;p |
| 15:26.22 | wOlfLinG | Well, everyone said England would ^^ |
| 15:26.26 | Helral | lol |
| 15:26.28 | Phaos | Would it be easier just to entirely remove the spore launcher and all it's actors and start again ? |
| 15:26.36 | Helral | everyone also said that brasil would beat the netherlands. |
| 15:26.43 | ProzaicMuze | They should have |
| 15:26.46 | ProzaicMuze | but that idiot own-goaled |
| 15:26.53 | ProzaicMuze | And then redcarded himself |
| 15:26.53 | RoarMan | NETHERLANDS FIIIIIIIIIGHTIGN! |
| 15:27.25 | wOlfLinG | Anyway, less footy talk. I hate it xD. Now: What could cause my archon beam copy to only attack at 3 range? |
| 15:27.32 | Phaos | I totally have not been keeping up with the soccer. I fail |
| 15:28.13 | wOlfLinG | Not soccer >:( Football nub! |
| 15:28.21 | RoarMan | YEA |
| 15:28.23 | RoarMan | ITS F |
| 15:28.24 | RoarMan | O |
| 15:28.25 | RoarMan | T |
| 15:28.26 | RoarMan | B |
| 15:28.27 | RoarMan | A |
| 15:28.27 | RoarMan | L |
| 15:28.40 | Phaos | Yes americans |
| 15:28.46 | RoarMan | GET IT |
| 15:28.46 | Phaos | :3 |
| 15:28.54 | Phaos | S |
| 15:28.55 | Phaos | O |
| 15:28.57 | Phaos | C |
| 15:28.57 | Phaos | C |
| 15:28.58 | Phaos | E |
| 15:28.58 | Phaos | R |
| 15:28.58 | wOlfLinG | F |
| 15:28.59 | wOlfLinG | O |
| 15:29.01 | wOlfLinG | T |
| 15:29.02 | wOlfLinG | B |
| 15:29.02 | wOlfLinG | A |
| 15:29.03 | wOlfLinG | L |
| 15:29.04 | wOlfLinG | L |
| 15:29.05 | wOlfLinG | ! |
| 15:29.06 | vjeux | ... |
| 15:29.06 | wOlfLinG | ! |
| 15:29.08 | vjeux | are you serious? |
| 15:29.15 | Helral | what's the difference except the words? |
| 15:29.15 | wOlfLinG | ^^ |
| 15:29.22 | Phaos | Nothing |
| 15:29.31 | wOlfLinG | I don't even like football :P |
| 15:29.39 | Phaos | Soccer |
| 15:29.44 | Helral | then why the hell are you 2 spamming the letters. |
| 15:29.48 | wOlfLinG | Basketball |
| 15:29.53 | Phaos | He started it! |
| 15:29.55 | Phaos | <.< |
| 15:29.57 | wOlfLinG | I did not! |
| 15:30.02 | wOlfLinG | You said soccer! >:( |
| 15:30.10 | ProzaicMuze | Soccer |
| 15:30.16 | ProzaicMuze | because we already hvae football as a named sport |
| 15:30.19 | Helral | btw Roarman started the spamming. |
| 15:30.22 | ProzaicMuze | can't have futbol and football |
| 15:30.34 | Phaos | I wanna play futbol |
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| 15:30.40 | wOlfLinG | American football is just Rugby for sissys ^^ |
| 15:30.42 | Phaos | that shit sounds ridonculous |
| 15:30.42 | vjeux | 3 0 |
| 15:30.49 | Phaos | . |
| 15:30.51 | Helral | hmmm |
| 15:30.56 | ProzaicMuze | Germany just scored again? |
| 15:30.56 | Phaos | Yay rugby! |
| 15:30.57 | ProzaicMuze | Bah |
| 15:30.57 | Hati | Bye bye Messi |
| 15:30.59 | Helral | and how many minutes remain? |
| 15:31.02 | ProzaicMuze | USA shoulda won |
| 15:31.04 | `MindWorX | NO MY SPORT IS BETTER! |
| 15:31.04 | `MindWorX | :P |
| 15:31.05 | vjeux | 76 min |
| 15:31.10 | ProzaicMuze | but our team is lazy and only plays the second half |
| 15:31.11 | `MindWorX | I love people discussing sports |
| 15:31.12 | Beider | judging by the noise outside I would say Germany is beating Argentina |
| 15:31.26 | Hati | Yeah, they are |
| 15:31.32 | Helral | hmm so like 17 mins orso remaining. |
| 15:31.39 | vjeux | yup |
| 15:31.40 | wOlfLinG | Im not going to get a response to my question am i? |
| 15:31.42 | vjeux | bye bye argentina |
| 15:31.45 | Phaos | Beider I can never place your accent :P |
| 15:31.49 | Helral | it's kinda quiet here. ;p |
| 15:31.49 | ProzaicMuze | what question wolf? |
| 15:31.56 | Beider | Phaos: Norwegian, but living in Germany |
| 15:32.03 | RoarMan | GERMANY CRUSH ARGENTINA! |
| 15:32.03 | Phaos | Ah! |
| 15:32.07 | RoarMan | GERMANY FIGHTING!!!!! |
| 15:32.08 | wOlfLinG | My attack beam only engages attack at range 3 or so |
| 15:32.14 | wOlfLinG | But its range is actually 5 |
| 15:32.31 | RoarMan | wolfling check out the Acquisition range on your unit. |
| 15:32.49 | RoarMan | I think that should be it, I was having the same problem with a unit. |
| 15:33.25 | wOlfLinG | On my unit? |
| 15:33.25 | Phaos | Oh man. Once this creature compo is done I am so hacking these standard models to bits for the sake of my creature |
| 15:33.44 | Phaos | rome the left gattling gun off the viking, take the legs off the spore launcher |
| 15:33.48 | Phaos | remove* |
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| 15:34.32 | wOlfLinG | Roarman, can't find an Aquisition range |
| 15:34.45 | Phaos | So ProzaicMuze , is it beyond repair ? |
| 15:34.56 | ProzaicMuze | no, I justgotta find the source of the problem lol |
| 15:35.10 | Phaos | heh |
| 15:35.13 | RoarMan | wolfling let me look it up. |
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| 15:37.24 | RoarMan | Oh wolfling are you working on a weapon or ability? |
| 15:37.31 | Helral | does changing the value of "Stats - Minimum Scan Range" work? |
| 15:37.32 | wOlfLinG | weapon |
| 15:37.37 | RoarMan | BRB THOUGH |
| 15:37.40 | Helral | it's on the weapon. |
| 15:37.54 | RoarMan | Yea make sure minimum scan range is same as range. |
| 15:38.02 | RoarMan | I donno what it is but it was bugging out my custom Hydra. |
| 15:38.05 | RoarMan | Hi helrarl |
| 15:38.08 | Helral | think it should be a bit higher. |
| 15:39.25 | wOlfLinG | Scan range is 5 |
| 15:39.51 | Vulfe | I wish someone would just go ahead and make a directory explaining every field in every type of data |
| 15:39.55 | Vulfe | but that might be time consuming |
| 15:40.06 | Helral | think someone did.... |
| 15:40.12 | wOlfLinG | lol |
| 15:43.14 | Helral | Vulfe: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/674-data-data-editor-fields/ |
| 15:44.02 | Vulfe | yay |
| 15:44.08 | Vulfe | now the 3 easiest types are explained to me |
| 15:44.12 | Vulfe | :P |
| 15:45.27 | vjeux | 4 0 |
| 15:45.38 | vjeux | owned |
| 15:45.46 | Helral | think the other team stopped playing. |
| 15:46.00 | Beider | I assume germany just won |
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| 15:46.15 | vjeux | about 5 min left |
| 15:46.17 | Beider | oh |
| 15:46.20 | Beider | so they scored again? |
| 15:46.26 | vjeux | yeah, 4 - 0 |
| 15:46.29 | Beider | lol |
| 15:46.46 | wOlfLinG | Oh, hell no xD, Just realised i forgot to actually give my unit the correct weapon. I was using the archon weapon. it had the same animation, so i thought it was the correct one xD |
| 15:47.09 | Beider | anyway, on a more SC2 related note, anyone here have any experience at all writing interpreters? I am trying to figure out how to best interpret my language |
| 15:48.28 | vjeux | alright match over, bye bye argentina |
| 15:48.42 | Beider | in particular nested if then else statements and loops are giving me a bit of trouble |
| 15:48.54 | vjeux | why nested if? |
| 15:48.55 | Beider | So what round is Germany in then? |
| 15:49.05 | Beider | well I am allowing people to nest if statements if they want |
| 15:49.11 | Beider | you can put if statements inside other if statements |
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| 15:49.49 | vjeux | basically a IF is an insrtuction like any other |
| 15:49.53 | ProzaicMuze | w |
| 15:49.54 | ProzaicMuze | t |
| 15:49.54 | ProzaicMuze | f |
| 15:50.01 | Phaos | ? |
| 15:50.04 | Phaos | what did I do ? |
| 15:50.04 | ProzaicMuze | the spore missile isn't even showing up now |
| 15:50.10 | ProzaicMuze | I fixed what would prevent it from launching from the site |
| 15:50.11 | Helral | well they way I build an interpreter for my work, was that I worked inside out. first handling the inner functions and then slowly going outwards. |
| 15:50.14 | Phaos | O.o |
| 15:50.16 | ProzaicMuze | however doing so stoped it from showing up |
| 15:50.28 | Beider | that is not the problem vjeux, the problem is jumping to the correct part of the code based on what it evaluates to |
| 15:50.44 | Phaos | Oh man :S |
| 15:50.56 | Helral | I don't know how you've set up your custom if/then/else statement |
| 15:50.59 | Beider | so if it is true it should jump to then, if it is false jump to else. However if another IF is inside, the next then in the code is not the then it should jump to |
| 15:51.01 | `MindWorX | This makes me sad: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/team-recruitment/2753-stargate-galaxies-recruiting/ |
| 15:51.18 | `MindWorX | Why has a guy that doesn't even appreciate the series, decided to make a map revolving around the series |
| 15:51.31 | vjeux | Beider: you have to work on a tree |
| 15:51.38 | vjeux | using recursion |
| 15:51.38 | `MindWorX | He doesn't know what a Jaffa is, and "atlantis sucks" is just a stupid statement |
| 15:51.45 | Beider | vjeux: my code is a flat string |
| 15:51.54 | Beider | Converting it to a tree would mean assigning a lot of variables |
| 15:51.55 | `MindWorX | *sigh* I hope someone else will be making a better attempt than he is |
| 15:51.56 | Beider | can't do that |
| 15:52.16 | vjeux | well, a tree is just a flat string with pointers |
| 15:52.20 | Helral | Beider: your possible nested if statement --> IF (X!=Y) THEN (IF (X!=Z) THEN .... ELSE .... ) ELSE .... |
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| 15:52.28 | Helral | something like that? |
| 15:52.36 | Beider | So I came up with two options, 1) Scan the code realtime and each time and take into account other if statements I find calculating which one is the correct one. Or B) Pre-process it and insert some jump commands |
| 15:52.42 | Beider | sec I will give you guys an example |
| 15:52.53 | vjeux | Beider: parse the string and make a tree out of it |
| 15:53.01 | vjeux | it'll be far easier to manage it |
| 15:53.32 | `MindWorX | If you're working on a custom parser of sorts, you should always make it into a node tree |
| 15:53.33 | Beider | vjeux: What exactly do you mean by tree, as in a linked list kind of tree? |
| 15:53.39 | `MindWorX | There's really no better option |
| 15:53.53 | `MindWorX | Beider, Ever read a tutorial on making a compiler compiler? |
| 15:53.56 | Beider | IFCUUT!=UNAO{{IFCRRSUT!=VR0|ANCRRHUT>>VR0|AO{{WUVR1|UT}{WUVR2|UT}}}{}} <- this is a line of code generated out of my SC2 editor Each command is 2 letters unless it has a value in which case the value is right after the command terminated by | |
| 15:54.03 | `MindWorX | You should read up on how they make the scanner part of the compiler |
| 15:54.06 | Beider | I did not MindWorX |
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| 15:54.32 | Beider | The problem is I am really limited on variables here |
| 15:54.54 | vjeux | basically the IF has 3 parts: condition, action1, action2 |
| 15:55.05 | vjeux | where action1 is a pointer to another node, and action2 too |
| 15:55.19 | Phaos | Vjeux how long do I have on the creature contest ? |
| 15:55.26 | vjeux | 4 days left |
| 15:55.32 | Phaos | oh good |
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| 15:55.37 | vjeux | well, that's short! |
| 15:56.03 | Phaos | considering the design part of my creature is over, 4 days is plenty :P |
| 15:56.11 | Beider | vjeux: well what I thought about was doing pre-processing on the code string I pasted above. Inserting parameters to each if with jump values for where to jump. And then inserting the key for the jump near the THEN / ELSE / END statements |
| 15:56.50 | Beider | I should have paid more attention in my compliler class at school, thought I would never need it :P |
| 15:56.55 | vjeux | :p |
| 15:57.13 | vjeux | btw, you shouldn't do it as string |
| 15:57.14 | Phaos | ProzaicMuze I gotta get me some shut eye, I'll have to talk to you tommorrow it's 4am :P |
| 15:57.21 | vjeux | would be easier using an int array |
| 15:57.26 | Beider | I can't |
| 15:57.29 | ProzaicMuze | wait just a min, I "might" have finished it |
| 15:57.35 | Phaos | :O |
| 15:57.40 | Beider | It would take too much memory to do it as int array |
| 15:57.47 | Beider | that is why I have to do it as a string |
| 15:57.47 | Phaos | epic |
| 15:57.57 | vjeux | are the strings unlimited in memory ? |
| 15:58.00 | Beider | yes |
| 15:58.03 | Beider | as far as I know |
| 15:58.04 | vjeux | ok |
| 15:58.29 | Beider | SC2 only allows you to assign 32k variables, and I will allow for up to 1000 threads to be running with separate code. And since we can't dynamically alter array lengths |
| 15:58.36 | `MindWorX | Why not just use databanks? |
| 15:58.38 | Beider | that would make it kind of impossible |
| 15:58.39 | `MindWorX | THey don't have a limit |
| 15:59.00 | vjeux | 1000 threads !? |
| 15:59.01 | Beider | MindWorX can they be altered realtime? And are they structured like a tree/array? |
| 15:59.06 | Beider | vjeux: in theory yes |
| 15:59.22 | Phaos | whos going to write 1000 threads for ther robot in one match :P ? |
| 15:59.23 | `MindWorX | databanks are like hashtables from what i've been told |
| 15:59.39 | `MindWorX | Dunno tho, haven't coded in galaxy yet |
| 15:59.39 | Beider | Each bot will consume 1 thread per thread it has. So if you have 300 bots with 3 threads each.. |
| 15:59.41 | Beider | 900 threads |
| 16:00.00 | Phaos | still 300 threads is quite a bit |
| 16:00.04 | Phaos | but I see where your going |
| 16:00.09 | ProzaicMuze | nvm, don't have it fixed |
| 16:00.13 | ProzaicMuze | :( |
| 16:00.18 | Beider | well I want to test the limits of sc2, if it doesn't work I will change it |
| 16:00.21 | Phaos | 2 bots, 4 bots, 8 bots, 16 bots.... |
| 16:00.23 | Beider | if it does then... cool ^^ |
| 16:00.36 | vjeux | ok :p |
| 16:00.43 | Phaos | D'aww :( |
| 16:00.44 | Beider | well my idea is that each player could be playing like 20 npc bots each. So 10 players * 20 |
| 16:00.48 | Beider | or something like that |
| 16:01.02 | vjeux | i don't want to host your map :p |
| 16:01.09 | Beider | MindWorX thanks for the info, I will look into it then |
| 16:01.11 | Phaos | oh well, if you end up fixing it ProzaicMuze, I will be around tommorrow no doubt and you can school me on my mistake then :) |
| 16:01.12 | Helral | Beider: hmmmm interesting situation... that string --> choice determination without using too many additional variables... |
| 16:01.27 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 16:01.28 | ProzaicMuze | mmk |
| 16:01.32 | `MindWorX | You're making that bot wars thing? |
| 16:01.35 | Phaos | but sleeeeeeeeeeep bed is calling me |
| 16:01.36 | Beider | yeah |
| 16:01.40 | `MindWorX | Neat |
| 16:01.45 | Beider | Helral: Well I have to balance memory use vs speed |
| 16:01.46 | `MindWorX | I always wanted to make something like that |
| 16:01.54 | Phaos | it's like "Rory, I am comfortable, and warm, and you are tired." |
| 16:01.59 | `MindWorX | You should improve the interface tho |
| 16:02.04 | Helral | Beider: I might be able to conjure up some interpreter for you that could do what you want... |
| 16:02.09 | wOlfLinG | I have an actor that goes to a unit when created. Any way to stop it turning with the unit? Looks wierd |
| 16:02.09 | Beider | I always wanted to play something like that with good graphics and a proper leveling system, which is why I am making it :P |
| 16:02.11 | vjeux | anyway, you want your "if" statement look like that: if<pointer to a condition, pointer to a statement, pointer to a statement> |
| 16:02.22 | Phaos | Anyhoo. night all! |
| 16:02.27 | Helral | cya Phaos. |
| 16:02.37 | Beider | vjeux: Yeah I think that will be the solution I go with |
| 16:02.56 | `MindWorX | You should look at the Microsoft Visual Programming Language |
| 16:03.00 | `MindWorX | That's an awesome way of coding |
| 16:03.04 | Beider | Helral: Well suggestions are welcome, but I prefer to write my own code as I want to make sure I know everything about my code :P |
| 16:03.06 | Helral | I've written a procedural interpreter before which was quite fun. |
| 16:03.09 | `MindWorX | And very very intuitive |
| 16:03.12 | `MindWorX | http://i.msdn.microsoft.com/dynimg/IC103456.png |
| 16:03.14 | `MindWorX | Like that |
| 16:03.22 | Helral | hehehe ;p |
| 16:04.08 | Beider | interesting idea MindWorX |
| 16:04.18 | Beider | right now I am going for a simplified trigger editor |
| 16:04.44 | `MindWorX | You should really consider an interface like that |
| 16:04.49 | `MindWorX | It's very very nice to work with |
| 16:04.59 | Helral | Beider: what I basicly did was split all the possible formula-functions up into methods. (each with it's input and output) |
| 16:05.03 | vjeux | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/2149/ |
| 16:05.21 | vjeux | here's the tree we've been using on a shell script (bash) recode |
| 16:05.28 | Helral | And then add a stringline interpreter that transformed the input (formula) into function calls. |
| 16:05.32 | vjeux | it's not really what you want but you can get inspired |
| 16:05.39 | Helral | and the end result was reported back to the user. |
| 16:05.53 | Helral | or in your case the end result will determine the bots action. |
| 16:05.54 | Beider | vjeux: do you know if a list of all the styles in the game were found in one of the data files? |
| 16:06.07 | Helral | text styles? |
| 16:06.10 | vjeux | http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html |
| 16:06.13 | vjeux | here is the grammar :p |
| 16:06.18 | `MindWorX | I dunno if you'v ever tried "Garrys Mod" Bemoliph, But it has something called "Wiremod" which is also a great way of coding visually |
| 16:06.29 | Beider | Helral: Hmm, might be a possibility |
| 16:07.19 | Beider | I find the biggest problem with working in galaxy is the lack of certain very useful commands. For instance regex |
| 16:07.23 | Beider | no regex is annoying |
| 16:07.28 | Helral | true |
| 16:07.33 | `MindWorX | No dynaminc memory is more annoying |
| 16:07.35 | Helral | I used regex in my case ;p |
| 16:07.41 | Beider | MindWorX, true |
| 16:07.46 | vjeux | yeah no dynamic memory is a pain in the ass |
| 16:07.51 | Beider | Helral: that is the thing, most interpreters use RegEx to some extent |
| 16:08.08 | `MindWorX | regex for a scanner is bad. You'd normally scan one character(token) at a time, and then do what's nessecary, until you have a complete tree |
| 16:08.26 | `MindWorX | Once you have a tree, outputtting it how you want is trivial |
| 16:08.42 | Helral | in my case I used regex to determine what type of input I had. since I had multiple possibilities ;p |
| 16:08.45 | Beider | but did anyone work with datatables? I thought they would have to be pre-defined |
| 16:09.39 | `MindWorX | Here's another example of visual programming done with a sprinkle of AWESOME |
| 16:09.40 | `MindWorX | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/QuartzComposerSnowLeopard.png |
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| 16:11.13 | Beider | MindWorX my main problem with going too visual is that I need to strike a balance between being easy to use and being customizable |
| 16:11.21 | `MindWorX | http://www.barnardmicrosystems.com/a%20Bb483088_VPL_Screenshot%28en-us,MSDN_10%29.jpg |
| 16:11.29 | `MindWorX | That's pretty customizable and very easy to use |
| 16:11.33 | `MindWorX | You'd just add components |
| 16:11.36 | Beider | if it is too easy to use but does not allow for enough variety the game will be boring |
| 16:12.15 | `MindWorX | My approach would be to create a struct, that each contains a databank. The databank would have N inputs and N outputs |
| 16:12.25 | wOlfLinG | My time lord is EPIC :D |
| 16:12.31 | `MindWorX | Each input and output would have a name ofc |
| 16:12.40 | `MindWorX | Like, a "position" components |
| 16:12.52 | `MindWorX | Would have 4 outputs, "X", "Y", "Z", "Vector" |
| 16:13.03 | Beider | MindWorX, that is assuming that A) Databanks are fast enough and B) Databanks don't have a limit |
| 16:13.11 | `MindWorX | Databanks don't have a limit |
| 16:13.16 | wOlfLinG | Think ive done everything needed in the data editor now. Anyone good withterrain editing and/ or triggers? |
| 16:13.18 | `MindWorX | They even operate outside the 2MB memory limit |
| 16:13.31 | Beider | there is a 2mb memory limit? |
| 16:13.33 | `MindWorX | Yea |
| 16:13.45 | Beider | umm, I never noticed that when testing my map |
| 16:13.58 | Beider | I assigned over 10 million characters to a string and it worked fine. |
| 16:14.01 | `MindWorX | It's not something you reach easily |
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| 16:14.16 | Phaos | I'm back! |
| 16:14.25 | Phaos | cos I found out I don't have to be up early anymore :P |
| 16:14.26 | Helral | already? |
| 16:14.30 | Helral | lol |
| 16:14.59 | `MindWorX | Beider, Well the limit is there |
| 16:15.08 | `MindWorX | Maybe strings operate differently |
| 16:15.19 | `MindWorX | But enough arrays and you'll get an out of memory crash |
| 16:15.35 | Beider | 2 mb is redicilous though |
| 16:15.39 | `MindWorX | Indeed |
| 16:15.40 | Beider | it's nothing these days |
| 16:15.43 | `MindWorX | Exactly |
| 16:15.46 | Beider | maybe they increase it for release |
| 16:16.00 | `MindWorX | Unlikely |
| 16:16.21 | `MindWorX | Their whole VM is working with that limit |
| 16:19.28 | `MindWorX | http://www.sc2mod.com/board/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=77 |
| 16:19.31 | `MindWorX | There Beider |
| 16:19.40 | `MindWorX | First point on the severe problems |
| 16:20.30 | Beider | mm, will read it now |
| 16:20.56 | Beider | lol it includes compiled code |
| 16:21.08 | Beider | I am already up to 1.2mb of non compiled code. |
| 16:21.21 | `MindWorX | Remember that noncompiled takes alot more space |
| 16:21.52 | Beider | of course, but still even if compiled takes 1/10 by the time my map is done it will consume a lot |
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| 16:22.40 | Beider | hmm |
| 16:22.51 | Beider | and I assign a 10.000 element array of a record |
| 16:22.57 | Beider | that definately consumes a lot |
| 16:23.15 | Beider | might need to re-do that system to use data tables |
| 16:23.43 | `MindWorX | Yea |
| 16:24.19 | wOlfLinG | Could anyone map some terrain for my map please? You'll be in teh credits ^^ |
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| 16:25.21 | Helral | wolfling check out the tutorial on the frontpage of sc2mapster concerning terrain mapping. |
| 16:25.36 | wOlfLinG | Yeah, im still crap though ^^ |
| 16:25.49 | Helral | same here ;p that is why I've got a rdm ;p |
| 16:26.00 | vjeux | xD |
| 16:26.07 | wOlfLinG | Well, i may need trigger help soon |
| 16:26.08 | Helral | I should say rdg in this case ;p |
| 16:26.28 | wOlfLinG | Cause i have absolutly no idea how to make the most basic revive trigger or dialogs xD |
| 16:26.47 | vjeux | wOlfLinG: there are many trigger tutorials about dialogs |
| 16:26.59 | Beider | ack bloody hell, all these limits on galaxy code is annoying as hell. Feels like working with one arm and two fingers cut off |
| 16:27.34 | Beider | if datatables have no limits though it might be possible to get around it, but still going to be annoying (and possibly slow) |
| 16:27.58 | `MindWorX | Indeed |
| 16:27.59 | Beider | as I assume the reason datatables have no limits is because they are stored on the disk not in memory |
| 16:29.33 | `MindWorX | Perhaps |
| 16:29.35 | Beider | ohh they are planning an sc2 debugger, sweet |
| 16:29.48 | vjeux | they? |
| 16:30.03 | Beider | umm someone from the sc2mod.com community |
| 16:30.08 | vjeux | http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9780/sc2renegadeoasis.jpg <- can it be achieved using galaxy editor filter? |
| 16:30.13 | vjeux | Vestras? |
| 16:30.16 | Helral | andromeda project prolly. |
| 16:30.24 | Beider | vjeux: yeah that guy |
| 16:30.35 | vjeux | yeah he is planning to do that |
| 16:30.39 | vjeux | that would be pretty cool |
| 16:30.49 | `MindWorX | Vestras doesn't have any reversing experience tho |
| 16:30.54 | `MindWorX | He doesn't even know where to start |
| 16:30.58 | Beider | inded it would, particularly if he can get the callstack and variables |
| 16:30.59 | `MindWorX | So it's very unlikely to happen |
| 16:31.10 | Beider | callstack+variables would be all I would need |
| 16:31.24 | `MindWorX | I might consider working on a debugger |
| 16:31.35 | Beider | so annoying to have errors come back to the initial event instead of the function that had the bug |
| 16:31.37 | `MindWorX | But i'll be working mainly on Sparsile before i start something like that |
| 16:31.44 | Helral | vjeux: filter? you mean the way the textures are? |
| 16:32.06 | vjeux | `MindWorX: I have a challenge for you, do you know if it would be easy to make a little program that gather the list of the custom maps? |
| 16:32.22 | Beider | vjeux: I doubt that image is out of sc2, looks processed |
| 16:32.33 | `MindWorX | While the map/gamebrowser is open? |
| 16:32.42 | vjeux | yeah it looks processed, but i was wondering if it was possible to do it within the editor |
| 16:32.46 | vjeux | `MindWorX: yup |
| 16:32.58 | vjeux | while the guy is playing and sees the map listing |
| 16:33.05 | `MindWorX | Doesn't sound too hard |
| 16:33.07 | vjeux | it would read the memory and write it down somewhere |
| 16:33.16 | `MindWorX | I could prolly cook something up yea |
| 16:33.23 | vjeux | that would be really nice |
| 16:33.28 | Helral | shouldn't be too hard if you know how to read the memory ;p |
| 16:33.31 | `MindWorX | If you give me a poke when we can use b.net again |
| 16:33.36 | vjeux | alright will do |
| 16:33.38 | `MindWorX | I'll give it a try |
| 16:34.10 | Beider | ack, think I will leave any further map modding for tomorrow. Annoyed by all these galaxy limitations that keep popping up |
| 16:34.17 | Helral | hehehe |
| 16:34.21 | `MindWorX | Hehe |
| 16:34.58 | Beider | good thing is all I need to write now is an interpreter and my map is playable :P |
| 16:35.02 | vjeux | :) |
| 16:35.16 | Helral | hmmm I got 2.16MB uncompressed size of triggers... |
| 16:35.38 | vjeux | xml is big :) |
| 16:35.47 | Helral | compressed: 320 kb. |
| 16:35.54 | Beider | I am kind of ticked off that they didn't include a lot of very easy to implement functions in sc2 |
| 16:35.59 | Beider | like character to byte |
| 16:36.03 | Helral | aye. |
| 16:36.07 | Beider | and stuff like that |
| 16:36.23 | Beider | it would probably take them 10 minutes to add it |
| 16:36.31 | vjeux | well, there are more than 1000 natives |
| 16:36.34 | Helral | is there a string to char function? |
| 16:36.35 | vjeux | that's already huge |
| 16:36.47 | Beider | Helral: there is no char type |
| 16:36.50 | Beider | so no |
| 16:36.59 | Beider | if you want a char you need a string of length 1 |
| 16:37.03 | `MindWorX | Their whole VM is a joke really |
| 16:37.12 | vjeux | make a thread in the feedback forum with the list of wanted natives :) |
| 16:37.14 | Helral | Beider: try defining a char in the custom code, it will light up as if it does exist. |
| 16:37.27 | Beider | MindWorX: True but then again better for customizing than any other RTS by far |
| 16:37.29 | `MindWorX | They should've just used something used and proven instead of doing their own |
| 16:37.39 | Beider | pretty much better than most other games with the exception of a few FPS games |
| 16:38.06 | vjeux | yeah, that was a really strange move to recode it from scratch |
| 16:38.10 | Beider | aye I don't see why they didn't just use lua or python or something |
| 16:38.15 | Beider | as their scripting language |
| 16:38.39 | `MindWorX | Indeed |
| 16:39.05 | Beider | well I suspect some of the higher ups designed the original editor language for whatever blizzard game first had the editor |
| 16:39.14 | Beider | and is still pushing for it as if it is the best idea ever |
| 16:39.17 | Helral | my Terrain seems to save a lot of space comparing compressed to uncompressed. |
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| 16:39.33 | Beider | so it's just bureaucracy |
| 16:39.36 | Helral | size difference about 18.1 MB |
| 16:39.54 | Mozared | 'Lo |
| 16:39.59 | Helral | hey |
| 16:40.21 | Mozared | If there's anyone here with knowledge of lightning... http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/4396-stumbling-in-the-dark/ |
| 16:40.29 | `MindWorX | I hate you Beider |
| 16:40.39 | Beider | I have heard of other examples in the game industry where seniors ally together to push for what they want, which in turn resulted in re-coding the wheel instead of using something good |
| 16:40.45 | `MindWorX | You've made me wanna make a visual programming interface for SC2 |
| 16:40.45 | Beider | MindWorX, how come ? :P |
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| 16:41.16 | `MindWorX | :P |
| 16:41.16 | Hoyk | hi |
| 16:41.21 | Hoyk | where is my editor ? o_o |
| 16:41.21 | Mozared | Hullo |
| 16:41.23 | Beider | MindWorX, go for it. But if you want to make it as a customizable library it will probably consume too much memory to be usable for most maps |
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| 16:41.37 | Helral | Hoyk: I ate it. |
| 16:41.54 | `MindWorX | Beider, Well. I wish someone made some speedtests of the databank natives |
| 16:41.58 | `MindWorX | Zoxc, You around? |
| 16:42.10 | Beider | MindWorX: Don't try to tempt me... bastard |
| 16:42.11 | Hoyk | No, seriously, i re-downloaded the game and i do not have the editor |
| 16:42.21 | Helral | weird... |
| 16:42.28 | Hoyk | what's wrong? |
| 16:42.33 | `MindWorX | Hoyk, You wont get the editor if you redownload |
| 16:42.38 | `MindWorX | Since it can't patch anymore |
| 16:42.47 | `MindWorX | So you wont get the patch with the editor |
| 16:42.52 | casperb | Anyone else noticed that the server is up btw? :P |
| 16:42.58 | Beider | I already had to do memory tests for max variables, threads and memory consumption (even though I never hit that 2 mb limit) |
| 16:42.58 | Hoyk | So...no way to get it? |
| 16:43.10 | `MindWorX | Beider, Test the databank speed :D |
| 16:43.24 | Mozared | I suppose you could 'download' it if someone bothered uploading it/his updated version of the beta |
| 16:43.36 | `MindWorX | A custom allocator and some databanks, and you wouldn't have to worry about any limits |
| 16:43.39 | Helral | think someone did opload it somewhere. |
| 16:43.47 | `MindWorX | I have a torrent of my installation with the editor |
| 16:43.49 | casperb | isn't there a site called sc2patch or something |
| 16:43.51 | Beider | MindWorX, I will have to do so. I know... but not today, done for the day |
| 16:44.08 | `MindWorX | zstepek is already downloading it off me |
| 16:44.28 | casperb | Beider: saw your ui concept video, looks pretty sweet, thought you where just going for a very simplistic macro setup |
| 16:45.03 | Beider | casperb: Still undecided, I could easily redo it to be more macro based |
| 16:45.15 | Beider | hmm, SC2 tells me I don't have the correct version and doesn't download the patc |
| 16:45.16 | Beider | patch |
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| 16:45.48 | Mozared | That's been going on since yesterday though, Beider |
| 16:45.49 | Helral | what's new about that Beider. |
| 16:46.15 | Beider | Umm, didn't know it had been like that since yesterday. I just tested it since casperb said servers were up |
| 16:46.16 | casperb | The old news post is gone today tho :P |
| 16:46.28 | casperb | Yeh we can't logon, but they are up |
| 16:46.36 | vjeux | servers up? |
| 16:46.42 | casperb | Kinda sorta |
| 16:47.00 | vjeux | http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/ |
| 16:47.04 | vjeux | btw you can get the old news there |
| 16:47.19 | casperb | Not playable but they're doing something |
| 16:47.25 | casperb | Was refferring to in-game |
| 16:47.37 | Mozared | I'm not sure what Blizz is up to |
| 16:47.50 | Mozared | But in my head I hear the dramatic chipmunk music everytime somebody mentions it |
| 16:47.52 | Beider | didn't someone say servers were coming up the 6th or 7th? |
| 16:47.56 | eggy | yea, it says invaild client when you try to connect :-p |
| 16:48.04 | vjeux | could be on monday |
| 16:48.21 | casperb | It's soon! ;) |
| 16:48.21 | `MindWorX | Someone should speedtest the databank natives |
| 16:48.31 | Beider | I concur MindWorX |
| 16:48.38 | casperb | define databank, the hash store or banks? |
| 16:48.42 | Mozared | I agree |
| 16:48.42 | `MindWorX | banks |
| 16:48.48 | Mozared | Even though I have no idea what any of those things are |
| 16:48.57 | `MindWorX | Hmph |
| 16:48.58 | casperb | why? banks can only store like 7k of data so |
| 16:49.02 | eggy | we hope sooner than later ;) |
| 16:49.03 | vjeux | anyone know the trick to get patch before they are being released? |
| 16:49.04 | casperb | no need to benchmark that |
| 16:49.09 | casperb | and impossible to benchmark, preloaded |
| 16:49.14 | `MindWorX | I've heard they could store more |
| 16:49.21 | Mozared | @Vjeux: work for Blizzard? |
| 16:49.23 | casperb | Someone in here did alot of testing |
| 16:49.24 | Hati | vjeux: you mean path changing ? |
| 16:49.32 | vjeux | they store the patch in a ftp |
| 16:49.35 | vjeux | public ftp |
| 16:49.38 | vjeux | before releasing it |
| 16:49.56 | vjeux | sixen found the magic last time and got the editor 1 day before everyone |
| 16:49.56 | Beider | However I think a local speed test might not reflect a battle.net speed test as they run the code on their servers as far as I understood |
| 16:50.06 | casperb | hm, try to find the url by brute force! |
| 16:50.15 | Mozared | Should only take 9 million years |
| 16:50.30 | vjeux | btw Mozared good tutorial :) |
| 16:50.33 | Mozared | Cheers |
| 16:50.50 | casperb | Syncing will ofc cause load times to spike on bnet |
| 16:50.53 | Beider | Make it into a video tutorial! Too lazy to read |
| 16:50.54 | Mozared | Figured we could do with some general information on terraining |
| 16:51.00 | Hati | vjeux: well if you tell me which date this was :P i can look up |
| 16:51.03 | Mozared | No use for details if you've no clue how to start off =P |
| 16:51.12 | casperb | But.. |
| 16:51.20 | casperb | When is the tut on how to think coming? :S |
| 16:51.36 | casperb | </rant> |
| 16:51.39 | Mozared | And I can't do video tutorials, I suck at everything video |
| 16:51.43 | Mozared | And I'm doing that one in a week, Casper |
| 16:51.51 | Helral | Mozared: did you add it to the tutorial listings? |
| 16:51.56 | Mozared | Aye |
| 16:52.26 | Mozared | I guess the pro of always typing posts in wikicreole is that you can edit wiki pages without panicking |
| 16:52.42 | Helral | ^^ |
| 16:52.44 | Mozared | (In case you hadn't noticed yet, I'm not much of a coder/strange typey-things in general) |
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| 16:53.02 | Helral | well you can always copy/paste stuff and alter if someone has posted before you ;p |
| 16:53.17 | vjeux | http://sc2.nibbits.com/articles/view/38/patch-9-nibbits-mirror |
| 16:53.23 | vjeux | here's the files, can't find the python script |
| 16:53.25 | Mozared | True I guess, but I'm too scared to mess up the entire wiki |
| 16:54.06 | Mozared | Anyway, time to eat my rice |
| 16:54.11 | vjeux | http://darkblizz.org/Forum2/starcraft-ii-beta/client-update-protocol/ |
| 16:54.15 | casperb | Impossible to mess up wiki's, revisions ftw |
| 16:54.16 | Mozared | Let me advertise my question thread again before I leave: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/4396-stumbling-in-the-dark/ |
| 16:54.18 | Mozared | cya guys in a bit |
| 16:54.29 | Helral | is eating food atm. |
| 16:54.35 | Alpha_vst | rawr |
| 16:55.06 | Helral | swipes at Alpha but misses. |
| 16:55.14 | Helral | doesn't like rawring sounds. |
| 16:55.59 | Hati | vjeux: still have the py file |
| 16:57.42 | vjeux | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/2150/ |
| 16:57.44 | vjeux | ok have it too |
| 16:57.55 | vjeux | we need to find out what the next patch will be |
| 16:58.39 | ProzaicMuze | lol, we hackin' blizz to steal da patch? |
| 16:58.57 | Hati | it's not hacking if its public :x |
| 16:59.05 | casperb | Guessing != Hacking :P |
| 16:59.08 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 16:59.32 | ProzaicMuze | is this like when people found the editor? |
| 16:59.40 | ProzaicMuze | or when people found the Photoshop links? |
| 16:59.50 | Hati | yea |
| 17:00.14 | vjeux | yes |
| 17:01.14 | Alpha_vst | found photoshop links where? what |
| 17:01.45 | ProzaicMuze | A while back people got CS4 for free because Adobe posted the trial links to downloads |
| 17:01.57 | ProzaicMuze | problem was they ALSO had the full programs as links |
| 17:02.01 | ProzaicMuze | but didn't list them |
| 17:02.15 | ProzaicMuze | Some people found those links and bam, instant free CS4 programs |
| 17:02.29 | casperb | uhm, trial software is usually the full software |
| 17:02.33 | casperb | just trial license |
| 17:02.36 | casperb | just a * |
| 17:02.48 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah |
| 17:02.53 | ProzaicMuze | I'm aware, as you can download trials and then crack them |
| 17:03.05 | ProzaicMuze | But they had linked downloads that didn't require purchase to work completely |
| 17:03.15 | casperb | Pfft like anyone does that *roll eyes* |
| 17:03.21 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 17:03.48 | casperb | Like anyone knows that you can just download CS5 and generate a new key every now and then, works and you don't have to crack it |
| 17:04.02 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 17:04.23 | Alpha_vst | or you can be smart are not allow your computer to conenct to adobe |
| 17:04.34 | casperb | Trial period will still run out |
| 17:04.55 | casperb | CS5 has some neat features that requires it to connect to the web |
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| 17:05.40 | casperb | Evil twin Beider? |
| 17:06.00 | vjeux | what would be awesome when we get the new patch is to have a galery with the new models |
| 17:06.00 | Helral | seems so |
| 17:06.00 | vjeux | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/1842-Cataclysm-Models |
| 17:06.02 | vjeux | like that |
| 17:06.31 | casperb | new patch wont contain any content tho? |
| 17:06.35 | casperb | just a bnet patch |
| 17:06.47 | vjeux | dunno |
| 17:06.53 | vjeux | it may contain new things |
| 17:07.01 | Alpha_vst | probably will |
| 17:07.25 | casperb | Some doc changes maybe |
| 17:07.33 | casperb | They've been pretty active in updating that |
| 17:08.16 | Helral | Beider's evil twin made Beider time out O.o |
| 17:08.26 | casperb | Maybe he ate him o.o |
| 17:08.30 | Helral | o.O |
| 17:08.56 | Helral | perhaps he did and now he has food poisoning ;p |
| 17:09.07 | casperb | double k.o! |
| 17:09.26 | `MindWorX | casperb, Who did that databank testing? |
| 17:09.44 | `MindWorX | eh, bank testing* |
| 17:09.47 | Beidero | casperb: no evil twin just restarting modem :P |
| 17:09.54 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 17:10.05 | casperb | Ah damn, my parallel universe theory was wrong? :( |
| 17:10.27 | Beidero | :P |
| 17:10.32 | Helral | casperb: no it isn't. The evil twin is trying to confuse you ;p |
| 17:10.43 | casperb | He's going for a triple kill! |
| 17:10.46 | Beidero | Anywho I shall be leaving you now to go outside and consume beer in the sun, so see you all later |
| 17:10.55 | casperb | `MindWorX: can't remember, someone in here, we've discussed it to death |
| 17:11.08 | casperb | You guys have sun? :S |
| 17:11.09 | `MindWorX | Whatever happened to documenting ones findings? :P |
| 17:11.27 | casperb | No one reads it |
| 17:11.35 | casperb | Everyone just comes here to make DoTa clones |
| 17:11.36 | casperb | :P |
| 17:11.38 | `MindWorX | :P |
| 17:11.45 | Helral | casperb: think he was going over to visit Beider... |
| 17:11.56 | Helral | casperb: you know "sun" |
| 17:12.02 | casperb | We have.. snow :S |
| 17:12.09 | casperb | well now rain but actually snowed like 2 weeks ago |
| 17:12.14 | `MindWorX | Eck, i should really finish up this hack i'm doing |
| 17:12.14 | Helral | hehehe where the heck are ya at then? |
| 17:12.34 | casperb | Norway |
| 17:13.10 | casperb | coastline surrounded by cloud popping moutains, constant rain |
| 17:13.16 | Helral | hehehe |
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| 17:30.22 | casperb | Hm why do people edit their posts when solved? :p |
| 17:30.37 | casperb | Entire question gone, and just says solved heh |
| 17:31.10 | ProzaicMuze | Because they don't like sharing? |
| 17:31.34 | vjeux | they shouldn't :( |
| 17:31.44 | casperb | OP edit's post, answers are still there just not the question |
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| 17:32.14 | casperb | It's like hey i spendt 20 minutes answering your post and you are making me do it over and over again :p |
| 17:33.53 | casperb | </rant> (yes again -.-) |
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| 17:37.42 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 17:38.02 | Alpha_vst | i cant believe how good i have become witht he data editor 0.o |
| 17:38.08 | Alpha_vst | its like i understand it |
| 17:38.38 | Mozared | In before they completely change it with the new editor |
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| 17:39.02 | Alpha_vst | they wont |
| 17:39.16 | Mozared | It'd be funny though =P |
| 17:39.18 | Alpha_vst | even if they do it will be easier |
| 17:39.35 | Alpha_vst | they have already made it easier to use a little |
| 17:39.43 | casperb | oh? |
| 17:39.47 | vjeux | they are going to improve the interface |
| 17:39.50 | casperb | Tab Views from hell? :P |
| 17:39.55 | vjeux | but not change the underlying structures |
| 17:39.57 | Alpha_vst | i dotn use tabs |
| 17:40.02 | casperb | infinitive loops ftw |
| 17:41.18 | Alpha_vst | hahahaha |
| 17:41.35 | Alpha_vst | my revive spell works |
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| 17:42.10 | Alpha_vst | well the whole in range checking if any player has a "outpost" and being able to use the abilty works :P |
| 17:42.36 | casperb | Mozared: It might be possible, but then you are reverting to 20 year old methods :p |
| 17:42.55 | casperb | Essentially how games in the 90s did lights |
| 17:43.07 | Alpha_vst | what? |
| 17:43.09 | depthsofchaos | anyone figured a way how to do aearch area behind the unit?:o |
| 17:43.09 | Mozared | As long as it works, I reckon the idea would be cool? |
| 17:43.17 | depthsofchaos | so the cone faces behind |
| 17:43.21 | Alpha_vst | sure |
| 17:43.41 | Mozared | Guess it's more fun if it can be done with lightning |
| 17:43.52 | Mozared | But you do have a point that anyone with a sub-par videocard will have problems |
| 17:43.57 | Mozared | (or a really easy time =P) |
| 17:44.12 | Alpha_vst | yeah lighting is a touchy thing |
| 17:44.14 | casperb | Nah they wouldn't see anything (or shouldn't by your design :P) |
| 17:44.26 | casperb | I'd go for full on dynamic lights |
| 17:44.27 | Alpha_vst | yeah and would be screwed |
| 17:44.28 | casperb | Looks better |
| 17:44.42 | casperb | And even my card can run it, Gefore 6800 |
| 17:44.46 | Mozared | Alright, so what's full on dynamic lights? |
| 17:45.03 | Alpha_vst | mozared.... |
| 17:45.05 | casperb | can't run on ultra in a 1v1 ladder match, but can do it in UMS maps that are just for fun :P |
| 17:45.33 | Mozared | Aye I wasn't intending it to be a melee map |
| 17:45.46 | Mozared | Was thinking of including the feature in one of the campaign maps I'm planning to make |
| 17:45.55 | Alpha_vst | you might want to do like a region and have fog of war on and every sooften "2 or 3" seconds reset the fog of war |
| 17:45.58 | Mozared | 2-player online co-op... one has to hold off attacks while the other finds a way to reach him |
| 17:46.05 | Alpha_vst | and have that region shwo the area |
| 17:46.20 | Mozared | Hmmm |
| 17:46.23 | casperb | FoW won't look good |
| 17:46.30 | casperb | Way to low res |
| 17:46.31 | Alpha_vst | i use that in one of my maps |
| 17:46.51 | casperb | I'm assuming it's a vertex map? |
| 17:46.54 | Mozared | You do? Can I take a look? |
| 17:48.08 | Alpha_vst | its not completed :P |
| 17:48.22 | casperb | Player B has one unit and has to find player a? |
| 17:48.25 | Mozared | Oh =P So how are you doing it? |
| 17:48.33 | Mozared | Aye, that's what I was thinking off |
| 17:48.34 | Alpha_vst | thats how i did it |
| 17:48.47 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 17:48.52 | Mozared | Yours is a fun map though? |
| 17:48.53 | casperb | Then you can just limit player b's camera bounds to a region around his unit(s) |
| 17:48.55 | Alpha_vst | thats the concept of my map :( |
| 17:49.07 | Mozared | What I'm talking about is different |
| 17:49.07 | casperb | Done it too Alpha_vst :P |
| 17:49.15 | Mozared | I've been wanting to set up a huge 2-player co-op campaign for ages |
| 17:49.17 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 17:49.22 | casperb | Survival map, 30 minutes, dark, zerglings |
| 17:49.25 | Mozared | And I was thinking to have this as one of the maps |
| 17:49.33 | casperb | But i get bored easly and do other things o.o |
| 17:49.35 | Mozared | One has to survive and the other one has to find him |
| 17:49.47 | Mozared | Meh! Why has everyone already done this? |
| 17:49.48 | Alpha_vst | casperb mines a first person horror mind fuck game |
| 17:49.53 | Mozared | I come up with a great idea and it's already retro =P |
| 17:50.01 | Alpha_vst | but i couldnt get the controls to work |
| 17:50.06 | Alpha_vst | and not be bnet laggy |
| 17:50.09 | Alpha_vst | so i put it down |
| 17:50.12 | Alpha_vst | for a while |
| 17:50.15 | casperb | Can do WASD in data ;) |
| 17:50.24 | casperb | that's my little secret tho :p |
| 17:50.26 | Alpha_vst | really? |
| 17:50.28 | Alpha_vst | WHAT |
| 17:50.30 | casperb | shh :p |
| 17:50.35 | Dustin | I dont believe that |
| 17:50.43 | Alpha_vst | oh shit i get it |
| 17:51.07 | Alpha_vst | hmmm i might have to pick up that map again |
| 17:51.46 | Alpha_vst | its a fucked up map cause everything looks the same :P |
| 17:52.16 | Alpha_vst | I might redo it though |
| 17:52.27 | Mozared | Maybe I should just get everybody who comes up with an idea in my campaign team and make them use it there |
| 17:52.32 | Mozared | At least I'd be original =p |
| 17:52.38 | Alpha_vst | and use my random generator to generate the level constantly |
| 17:52.42 | Alpha_vst | and have it shift |
| 17:53.03 | casperb | Mozared: get a product first, then get help :p |
| 17:53.08 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 17:53.13 | Alpha_vst | no one will help if you have shit |
| 17:53.24 | Helral | meow |
| 17:53.24 | casperb | If you recruit on beforehand, you will only get people who don't know what they are doing |
| 17:53.30 | Mozared | Aye, that's true |
| 17:53.32 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 17:53.36 | casperb | Generally speaking, atleast that's how it works in the dev world |
| 17:53.36 | Mozared | It's just that I don't want to start until release |
| 17:53.45 | Mozared | As I want it to follow SC lore and I need to know the campaign for that |
| 17:54.08 | casperb | Nah do a spin-off |
| 17:54.14 | Dustin | Ya dont follow the story line |
| 17:54.26 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 17:54.29 | Mozared | Hmm |
| 17:54.35 | Mozared | I suppose I could |
| 17:54.44 | Mozared | Will have to figure out exactly what direction I want to take it though |
| 17:54.51 | Mozared | I only have some big plans and terrains |
| 17:55.04 | Mozared | need someone to work out the lore to start with. Let alone data/trigger editors |
| 17:55.08 | casperb | You have a framework to work within, marines zergs war etc, just summarize the plot in 3 words then start writing from that |
| 17:56.23 | vjeux | there's no patch yet on the blizz servers |
| 17:56.30 | Alpha_vst | how would i make a teleport abilty? |
| 17:56.30 | casperb | :( |
| 17:56.38 | Alpha_vst | of course not |
| 17:56.49 | casperb | Just copy blink? |
| 17:57.00 | Dustin | Ya, use the one they already made? :P |
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| 17:57.33 | Alpha_vst | well i need the abilty ona unit to be used on other units |
| 17:57.37 | Helral | or take a look at the recall ability of the mothership. (if it is still called recall) |
| 17:58.00 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/1970-tgs-sc2-edition-dota-style-map-calling-for-modders/#p2 |
| 17:58.02 | Alpha_vst | so i need 2 clicks a target and a location |
| 17:58.02 | vjeux | yeah another dota :p |
| 17:58.42 | Mozared | I'm seeing some original stuff in DOTAs |
| 17:58.43 | Helral | AV: don't think that kind of spells exist yet.... with 2 clicks instead of 1 ;p |
| 17:58.54 | vjeux | "4. There dont seem to be many Dota or well AoS in general in development and without a doubt many are looking to play some when SC2 comes out. " |
| 17:58.54 | vjeux | xD |
| 17:58.58 | Mozared | it just kind of sucks that I've now made 2 or 3 terrains for projects of other people and they're all DOTAs |
| 17:59.24 | Helral | well I could ask you to design a terrain for me, but it would be a waste of time ;p |
| 17:59.37 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 17:59.47 | casperb | Do we ever answer a non how to make DoTa related question? |
| 17:59.55 | Helral | cause all I use is one large flat area ;p |
| 18:00.01 | Mozared | Don't you generate your own random terrain through trigges? =P |
| 18:00.02 | Mozared | yeah, that =P |
| 18:00.05 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 18:00.07 | Alpha_vst | same |
| 18:00.15 | Mozared | You damn coders are getting so good you generate your own terrain |
| 18:00.17 | Mozared | putting me out of work =( |
| 18:00.20 | Helral | lol |
| 18:00.42 | Helral | well I actually did it cause I hate terrain design ;p and I like randomizing stuff. |
| 18:00.45 | casperb | procedural content ftw |
| 18:01.11 | casperb | having it procedural makes for great re-playability tho |
| 18:01.22 | casperb | so win-win |
| 18:01.42 | Mozared | It won't look as awesome though, luckily =P |
| 18:01.42 | Alpha_vst | :P |
| 18:01.51 | Alpha_vst | lies |
| 18:02.01 | Helral | Mozared: you hope ;p |
| 18:02.04 | Alpha_vst | my game looks awesome |
| 18:02.18 | casperb | Diablo looks bad? |
| 18:02.21 | Helral | my walls look awesome ;p |
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| 18:02.39 | Mozared | Pfff, you make a random terrain and post it up as a showcase, then we'll talk =P |
| 18:02.43 | Alpha_vst | i need to redo my texture on my walls :P |
| 18:02.59 | Alpha_vst | what |
| 18:03.19 | Helral | Mozared: my map is on sc2mapster to check it out if you want to. think the same goes for alpha's map ;p |
| 18:03.25 | Alpha_vst | http://i45.tinypic.com/x40x7l.jpg start talking? im not even done :P |
| 18:03.41 | Mozared | That's cheating though! |
| 18:03.45 | Mozared | Damn custom textures =( |
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| 18:04.33 | Alpha_vst | not really cheating |
| 18:04.36 | depthsofchaos | meh random maps will only look good randomly :) |
| 18:06.03 | Alpha_vst | im stilling planning to put in that random layer of decals for the terrain |
| 18:06.41 | Alpha_vst | plus other things |
| 18:07.15 | Mozared | It does look interesting |
| 18:07.27 | Mozared | Have you set out like... objectives yet, though? |
| 18:07.34 | Mozared | As in "to win you need to get X kills" or something |
| 18:07.49 | Alpha_vst | you need to wipe of the zombies to win |
| 18:08.09 | depthsofchaos | i rellay hate the adding content part of map making :p |
| 18:08.23 | Mozared | I like it, but I can be a bit of a loose projectile =P |
| 18:08.38 | Alpha_vst | i over do it :P |
| 18:08.38 | Helral | http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/7673/screenshot058b.jpg ;p |
| 18:08.42 | Alpha_vst | like with my blood |
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| 18:09.14 | Mozared | Nice walls Hel |
| 18:09.19 | Mozared | You just need a decent floor now |
| 18:09.20 | Alpha_vst | did you model that wall Helral i see its diffrent now :P |
| 18:09.27 | Mozared | Some skeletons and weapons on the ground... |
| 18:09.32 | Helral | it's the same wall, different lightning. |
| 18:09.33 | Mozared | Dust, spider cobwebs |
| 18:09.52 | Helral | I need to throw in a floor texture still. |
| 18:10.28 | Mozared | Got any ideas on that yet? |
| 18:10.40 | Helral | not yet really. |
| 18:10.47 | Helral | working on some other stuff atm. shop and items. |
| 18:11.17 | Mozared | I thought as much |
| 18:11.28 | Mozared | It's starting to reall shape up though, I reckon |
| 18:11.42 | Helral | the walls look better like last time don't they, Alpha? |
| 18:12.32 | Alpha_vst | i thought u where using the cube for walls :P |
| 18:12.35 | Helral | http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6467/screenshot043s.jpg |
| 18:12.46 | Helral | old wall lightning |
| 18:12.48 | ProzaicMuze | ewww |
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| 18:12.49 | ProzaicMuze | walls of death |
| 18:13.01 | Mozared | I reckon it's better |
| 18:13.08 | Mozared | Depends a bit what you go for though |
| 18:13.13 | ProzaicMuze | You should get texture variations |
| 18:13.18 | ProzaicMuze | That would really make them walls pop |
| 18:13.25 | Helral | hehehe ;p |
| 18:13.34 | Mozared | Second one has a bit the same feeling as those dungeon missions in Warcraft 1 |
| 18:13.45 | Mozared | The older one is a bit more 'diablo like' I reckon |
| 18:14.14 | ProzaicMuze | 058b looks good to me |
| 18:14.43 | ProzaicMuze | but mainly because the different angles makes it hard to see the difference you want us to |
| 18:14.51 | Helral | hehehe |
| 18:14.53 | Helral | ;p |
| 18:15.53 | Helral | http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1883/screenshot056ti.jpg think this is also the same lightning as the 058b one. |
| 18:16.04 | Helral | might be a bit lighter then the 058b one... |
| 18:17.25 | `MindWorX | Awesome |
| 18:17.42 | `MindWorX | I just added a custom menu to Starcraft Editor using purely C# |
| 18:17.52 | Helral | hmmm? |
| 18:17.59 | vjeux | Sparsile |
| 18:18.01 | `MindWorX | I was almost sure i needed to use some native unmanaged code, but it appears not |
| 18:18.02 | `MindWorX | Yea |
| 18:18.13 | `MindWorX | I'm redoing the whole project atm |
| 18:18.19 | `MindWorX | Since xttocs doesn't have much spare time to manage it |
| 18:18.26 | `MindWorX | So i'm doing it in a way so i can manage it myself |
| 18:18.28 | Alpha_vst | anyone got a suggestion for a Teleportation spell? that uses 2 clicks one for selecting the unit and one for location? |
| 18:18.45 | vjeux | nice |
| 18:19.35 | Mozared | @alpha: You mean as in... you select unit A, click 'teleport', select unit B, click where you want unit B to be teleported to? |
| 18:19.39 | vjeux | anyway `MindWorX do not hesitate to release it even if it is not completed, you will get feedbacks that'll help you to go forward |
| 18:19.52 | `MindWorX | Yea, i will soon |
| 18:20.05 | Alpha_vst | Mozared: as in unit a has the ability and uses it to teleport units |
| 18:20.06 | `MindWorX | Just adding the basic features for a custom galaxy coder :) |
| 18:20.12 | vjeux | :) |
| 18:20.15 | Mozared | Aye... hmm, that sounds interesting |
| 18:20.27 | vjeux | going to open source it? |
| 18:20.29 | Alpha_vst | so yeah |
| 18:20.38 | Mozared | I'm not sure how the data editor works when you have to select a target and a location |
| 18:20.44 | Mozared | You need Prozaic for that |
| 18:21.08 | ProzaicMuze | You can use effects to have a unit teleport/blink another unit |
| 18:21.18 | ProzaicMuze | Look at "recall" |
| 18:21.28 | `MindWorX | vjeux, At some point i will |
| 18:21.32 | `MindWorX | At first it'll be closed |
| 18:21.32 | ProzaicMuze | It essentially does what you want, only AoE |
| 18:21.34 | Alpha_vst | ok hopefully i can figure this out |
| 18:21.42 | vjeux | any reason why? |
| 18:22.11 | `MindWorX | Well, i'm doing this project as much for myself as for the community, so i want to make sure people knows who made it, before someone else steals the source and releases it in their name :) |
| 18:22.17 | `MindWorX | I will be adding an extensive plugin system tho |
| 18:22.21 | `MindWorX | So people can still contribute |
| 18:22.50 | Fatal5101 | awesome MINDWORX! |
| 18:22.53 | Alpha_vst | but ProzaicMuze it teleports it to the caster not another different point.... |
| 18:23.10 | vjeux | tbh, I don't think anyone would rename it and steal it |
| 18:23.17 | vjeux | it's way too complicated |
| 18:23.25 | `MindWorX | I guess |
| 18:23.31 | vjeux | and it's going to be promoted with your name :) |
| 18:23.31 | `MindWorX | But for now i'm doing it like this |
| 18:23.35 | vjeux | ok |
| 18:23.39 | `MindWorX | It's something me and xttocs agreed upon :) |
| 18:23.45 | `MindWorX | And it will be opensource later on |
| 18:24.01 | `MindWorX | And i'll do my best to make the plugin system as versatile as people needs :) |
| 18:24.11 | vjeux | anyway, you will be able to use svn/git on mapster if you make it open source |
| 18:24.23 | `MindWorX | Yea |
| 18:24.32 | `MindWorX | Already talked to Sixen about all of that :) |
| 18:24.37 | vjeux | k |
| 18:25.40 | `MindWorX | We're going to host it exclusively on sc2mapster actually |
| 18:25.52 | `MindWorX | We'll promote it on other sites, but the hosting will be sc2mapster exclusive |
| 18:26.00 | `MindWorX | In exchange we get a few bonuses |
| 18:26.21 | Zoxc | host what? |
| 18:26.25 | `MindWorX | Sparsile |
| 18:26.37 | vjeux | what Sixen agreed to give you? :p |
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| 18:27.06 | Zoxc | Sixen gives blowjobs? |
| 18:27.07 | RedWraith | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 18:27.09 | purl | tehwildcard <~Jer@pool-96-252-135-143.tampfl.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 17h 10m 29s ago, saying: 'oh'. |
| 18:27.30 | Fatal5101 | wait whats so special about your stuff MindWorX? |
| 18:27.44 | RedWraith | what stuff? |
| 18:27.45 | `MindWorX | Fatal5101, Magic :P |
| 18:27.51 | RedWraith | who the hell is MindWorX? |
| 18:27.58 | Fatal5101 | some scrub |
| 18:28.00 | Fatal5101 | making a plugin for GE |
| 18:28.02 | vjeux | http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/sparsile-ge-extender-3d-contest-random-dungeon/ |
| 18:28.26 | RedWraith | vjeux? |
| 18:28.28 | RedWraith | why post that? |
| 18:28.44 | `MindWorX | Sparsile is what i'm working on |
| 18:28.50 | RedWraith | ah |
| 18:28.55 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 18:29.23 | depthsofchaos | does anyone know how to turn off auotmaic smoothing crap in 3ds max? |
| 18:29.50 | RedWraith | wait, so it doesn't add anything to triggers? just galaxy? |
| 18:30.45 | RedWraith | I won't care about any galaxy coder until I can go back and forth between trigger editor and galaxy scripting. :P |
| 18:30.57 | `MindWorX | That's exactly what it allows |
| 18:31.01 | `MindWorX | But sparsile isn't about that |
| 18:31.05 | `MindWorX | Sparsile is about extending the editor |
| 18:31.18 | RedWraith | How does it interact with the editor? |
| 18:31.28 | `MindWorX | It adds new things |
| 18:31.29 | RedWraith | Is it like that version of StarEdit back for sc1 with things added? |
| 18:31.34 | RedWraith | or is it external? |
| 18:31.35 | `MindWorX | You'll see it when it's released :P |
| 18:31.53 | Zoxc | bets it's gonna suck |
| 18:31.55 | RedWraith | When's that? :p |
| 18:32.17 | RedWraith | btw guys I'm developing a map called Duke Nukem Forever |
| 18:32.29 | RedWraith | just fyi I'll release it sometime in the next two hundred years |
| 18:32.55 | Helral | That's about the same time as I'll release the completed version of my map ;p |
| 18:33.07 | RedWraith | Helral, how is your map doing anyway? |
| 18:33.20 | RedWraith | Need help with any complicated trigger problems? |
| 18:33.21 | RedWraith | :) |
| 18:33.35 | Helral | hmmm not really complicated trigger stuff atm. |
| 18:33.46 | Helral | doing some data editor stuff atm |
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| 18:34.44 | Helral | creating loot etc. ;p |
| 18:37.51 | RedWraith | okay |
| 18:41.06 | Helral | hmmm how many items should fit in a backpack.... |
| 18:41.36 | Alpha_vst | bag of holding... :P |
| 18:41.39 | Alpha_vst | limitless |
| 18:41.40 | Helral | hehehe ;p |
| 18:41.47 | Helral | bags of holding aren't limitless ;p |
| 18:41.52 | Alpha_vst | LIES |
| 18:41.56 | `MindWorX | Was about to say :P |
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| 18:43.00 | `MindWorX | A type 4 has the following attributes: Weight: 60 lb. Content Weight Limit: 1,500 lb. Content Volume Limit: 250 cu. ft. |
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| 18:43.02 | `MindWorX | :P |
| 18:44.07 | Helral | A type 1 has the following attributes: Weight: 15 lb. Content Weight Limit: 250lb. Contents Volume Limit: 30 cu. ft. Market Price: 2500gp |
| 18:44.10 | Helral | ;p |
| 18:45.12 | `MindWorX | d20srd ftw |
| 18:45.12 | `MindWorX | :P |
| 18:45.24 | Helral | dmg3.5 ftw ;) |
| 18:46.29 | Alpha_vst | uh huh |
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| 18:51.25 | Helral | btw MindWorX you forgot to mention that type 4 costs 10000gp ;p |
| 18:51.49 | ProzaicMuze | Gah, there REALLY needs to be a way to organize PMs at the site |
| 18:51.56 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 18:51.58 | ProzaicMuze | Vjeux, fix it! |
| 18:52.08 | vjeux | what's up with PM? |
| 18:52.12 | `MindWorX | Helral, Indeed :P |
| 18:52.26 | ProzaicMuze | I want to be able to separate messages out by subject |
| 18:52.36 | ProzaicMuze | As in create my own folder or even a "Favorites" method |
| 18:52.48 | ProzaicMuze | So that I can move important messages out of pile |
| 18:52.57 | vjeux | do you have that much PMs? |
| 18:53.16 | ProzaicMuze | More like I'm going to |
| 18:53.19 | Helral | He get's that many pm's cause his name is PM in short ;p |
| 18:53.33 | vjeux | xD |
| 18:53.37 | ProzaicMuze | I can easily search by unread, but I've got at least 6 different teams I'm doing work for and the messages are beginning to flow |
| 18:53.41 | Mozared | Now if only he were female the PMs would suit him |
| 18:53.53 | Helral | hehehe |
| 18:53.54 | ProzaicMuze | I want to be able to move those messages out of th e"ZOMG I KENT DO UR TUT HELPZ ME NAOW" messages |
| 18:54.06 | ProzaicMuze | raises an eyebrow |
| 18:54.21 | ProzaicMuze | For all you know I could very well be a sexy, veluptuous woman |
| 18:54.30 | vjeux | hmm,make a favorite folder in your browser i guess |
| 18:54.41 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 18:54.43 | ProzaicMuze | that's for smart people |
| 18:54.45 | ProzaicMuze | I'm dumb |
| 18:54.47 | Helral | PM: you've got a lot of PMs problems? |
| 18:54.48 | ProzaicMuze | make life easy for me! |
| 18:54.58 | vjeux | got 199 conversations lol :p |
| 18:55.01 | ProzaicMuze | Oh yeah. . . I hate teh cramps :( |
| 18:55.54 | ProzaicMuze | I bet if I went to another site, they'd have message sorting capabilities >;D |
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| 18:56.31 | vjeux | but they wouldn't have project management |
| 18:56.36 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 18:56.38 | vjeux | which is far more important :p |
| 18:56.45 | ProzaicMuze | So? |
| 18:56.51 | ProzaicMuze | They'd at least have sorted messages! |
| 18:56.57 | ProzaicMuze | And that's my current priorty |
| 18:57.01 | vjeux | messages are sorted by date |
| 18:57.02 | ProzaicMuze | I can worry abotu projects later ;P |
| 18:57.11 | Helral | is project management that important? |
| 18:57.35 | ProzaicMuze | "Do you really want project management?" |
| 18:57.56 | vjeux | hmm, you are right, we should have focused on pm management instead of projects! |
| 18:58.05 | ProzaicMuze | Now you're talkin'! |
| 18:58.25 | ProzaicMuze | grumbles and goes back to fumbling through PMs |
| 18:58.29 | Helral | too bad for Prozaic, they didn't ;p |
| 18:58.29 | RedWraith | Is there no way for a unit to be able to walk through structures, but not walk up cliffs?! |
| 18:58.33 | RedWraith | It seems ridiculous... |
| 18:59.05 | Helral | @RedWraith: make it so that the buildings don't block pathing anymore ;p |
| 18:59.11 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 18:59.16 | RedWraith | Helral, it's a tower defense map. :P |
| 18:59.26 | Helral | ;p |
| 18:59.31 | Mozared | I don'tmind the project management, though it seems a bit overkill |
| 18:59.32 | Helral | how should I smell that? ;p |
| 18:59.39 | Mozared | I just decided to upload the two 1v1 maps I made some time back |
| 18:59.45 | Mozared | I had to input a gazillion options |
| 18:59.51 | Helral | add a no fly zone on the cliffs, and just make the builder flying. |
| 19:00.24 | ProzaicMuze | Or make unit have 0 radius |
| 19:01.44 | RedWraith | 0 radius |
| 19:01.47 | RedWraith | does not work either |
| 19:01.48 | RedWraith | :( |
| 19:02.08 | RedWraith | I wish |
| 19:02.13 | RedWraith | I could add collision types to cliffs |
| 19:02.14 | RedWraith | :( |
| 19:02.29 | Helral | sure you can just create invisible units there ;p |
| 19:02.37 | Helral | you got the invisible.m3 model. |
| 19:02.50 | RedWraith | These solutions aren't any better than the current one, which is to teleport the unit back if he goes too far. |
| 19:02.50 | RedWraith | :P |
| 19:03.31 | Helral | btw what's wrong with noflyzone and flying builder? |
| 19:04.14 | ProzaicMuze | Also, what's wrong with going onto the cliff? |
| 19:04.31 | RedWraith | noflyzone == lots of units |
| 19:04.42 | RedWraith | noflyzones can't be painted on like other shit |
| 19:04.43 | RedWraith | :[ |
| 19:04.51 | RedWraith | it makes the map ugly/worse for it |
| 19:05.01 | RedWraith | I'm gonna create |
| 19:05.02 | RedWraith | a mover |
| 19:05.18 | ProzaicMuze | Again, what's wrong with going onto cliffs? |
| 19:06.18 | Alpha_vst | what tell the recall abilty to recall the unit to the mothership? |
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| 19:07.10 | Tugn | Hi 'vryone |
| 19:07.48 | ProzaicMuze | As in what tells it the location? |
| 19:07.49 | Helral | seems that NoFlyZones are like points. |
| 19:08.13 | Alpha_vst | yeah ProzaicMuze |
| 19:08.26 | ProzaicMuze | Target + |
| 19:08.37 | Helral | RedWraith: check the pathing layer. it is there. |
| 19:08.50 | ProzaicMuze | See how it says Source Point with the effect in ()s? |
| 19:09.05 | Alpha_vst | on what part of the thing though? |
| 19:09.12 | ProzaicMuze | The Teleport Effect |
| 19:09.34 | Alpha_vst | ok thats what i have been changing |
| 19:09.41 | Alpha_vst | its not working very well |
| 19:10.20 | Alpha_vst | either does nothing or moves the unit to the mothership |
| 19:10.49 | ProzaicMuze | How do you have the Effect - Source and Target - Target setup? |
| 19:11.28 | casperb | No Fly Zones are circular regions |
| 19:11.39 | ProzaicMuze | Rewd, why do you need things to not go on cliffs? |
| 19:11.39 | Alpha_vst | idono what it should be i have no idea what im doing :P |
| 19:11.40 | casperb | n radius around point |
| 19:11.42 | ProzaicMuze | Red* |
| 19:11.52 | RedWraith | Because |
| 19:11.52 | ProzaicMuze | lol, tell me what you have in those fields and I'll help yeh out |
| 19:11.56 | RedWraith | cliffs separate lanes |
| 19:12.01 | RedWraith | and going on cliffs looks shitty |
| 19:12.02 | RedWraith | :[ |
| 19:12.10 | depthsofchaos | http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2656/screenshot051n.jpg still need help how to fix the ugly shadows :o |
| 19:12.18 | casperb | make it a glider then |
| 19:12.20 | Alpha_vst | you can just say i have the defualts |
| 19:12.24 | ProzaicMuze | Depths, have you tried attaching the units? |
| 19:12.26 | casperb | like colossus |
| 19:12.34 | depthsofchaos | attaching? |
| 19:12.38 | RedWraith | casperb |
| 19:12.41 | Helral | on the bridges I assume? |
| 19:12.45 | RedWraith | collosi are blocked by buildings but not cliffs |
| 19:12.45 | depthsofchaos | ye |
| 19:12.47 | RedWraith | you have it backwards |
| 19:13.17 | casperb | they do still follow ground pathing |
| 19:13.19 | casperb | so can paint |
| 19:13.22 | casperb | the vmap |
| 19:13.24 | Helral | depths: I think you need to change something at the model. to fix that lightning problem. |
| 19:13.42 | depthsofchaos | but its a simple block :/ |
| 19:14.14 | depthsofchaos | tho im dont know much about max |
| 19:14.19 | casperb | RedWraith: actually, you want it to follow ground pathing? |
| 19:14.19 | depthsofchaos | -im |
| 19:14.40 | casperb | RedWraith: Then just make it ground, no collide |
| 19:14.53 | RedWraith | casperb, it will still collide with footprints |
| 19:15.03 | RedWraith | I want the unit to walk through towers, but not through cliffs. :P |
| 19:15.04 | casperb | not if all collision flags are off |
| 19:15.11 | RedWraith | YES IF ALL COLLISION FLAGS ARE OFF |
| 19:15.14 | RedWraith | I just tested it. :P |
| 19:15.25 | RedWraith | Also, no collision flags = ground type collision by default anywa |
| 19:15.39 | RedWraith | All ground type collisions collide with footprint. :P |
| 19:15.53 | casperb | remove ground collision :p |
| 19:15.58 | depthsofchaos | footprint has nothing with collision |
| 19:16.02 | depthsofchaos | its pathing |
| 19:16.06 | RedWraith | okay, pathing |
| 19:16.08 | RedWraith | either way |
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| 19:16.12 | RedWraith | it's the same problem |
| 19:16.15 | depthsofchaos | why |
| 19:16.16 | RedWraith | and there's nothing I can do about it |
| 19:16.26 | RedWraith | because I need some units to see buildings |
| 19:16.29 | RedWraith | and others not to |
| 19:16.29 | depthsofchaos | you can remove footrpints |
| 19:16.29 | RedWraith | :P |
| 19:16.49 | depthsofchaos | give detection ?:p |
| 19:16.55 | RedWraith | what? |
| 19:17.07 | ProzaicMuze | @Alpha, so you have Source - Caster, Target - Caster and Unit - Target? |
| 19:17.18 | depthsofchaos | im not sure what you want |
| 19:17.29 | depthsofchaos | youre using cloack to hide the buildings? |
| 19:17.52 | RedWraith | no... |
| 19:17.56 | RedWraith | It's a tower defense map |
| 19:18.01 | RedWraith | builder walks through buildings |
| 19:18.03 | RedWraith | other units don't |
| 19:18.09 | RedWraith | I don't want my builder walking up cliffs |
| 19:18.12 | depthsofchaos | then do what i told, remove footprint |
| 19:18.13 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 19:18.24 | depthsofchaos | and remove collision flags |
| 19:18.30 | depthsofchaos | for the unit |
| 19:19.16 | RedWraith | if I remove the building footprint, units will walk right through it. :P |
| 19:19.27 | depthsofchaos | they wont.. it has a radius |
| 19:19.28 | RedWraith | That, or it'll be non-uniform, radius dependent, etc. |
| 19:19.41 | RedWraith | blockers gotta be square lol |
| 19:19.51 | depthsofchaos | well no other way |
| 19:20.25 | depthsofchaos | radius still uses the grid system |
| 19:20.31 | depthsofchaos | i think |
| 19:20.42 | depthsofchaos | so if you give it like 0.9 radius it iwll be 1 block |
| 19:21.15 | depthsofchaos | i mean 0.49 :o |
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| 19:28.03 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/coyote-canyon/. Coyote Canyon. Mozared (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 19:28.07 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/thermal-contact/. Thermal Contact. Mozared (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
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| 19:35.42 | Mozared | Eep, it's stalking me |
| 19:42.08 | Helral | who is? |
| 19:42.59 | Mozared | 'Repo' |
| 19:43.45 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/welcome-jungle/. Welcome to the Jungle. Mozared (Manager/Author). Approved by xhatix. |
| 19:43.58 | Mozared | See, there it is again =( |
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| 19:46.23 | Tugn | Hmmm |
| 19:46.27 | Tugn | I have a little problem |
| 19:46.33 | Tugn | My editor disapperead |
| 19:46.36 | Tugn | x_X |
| 19:46.49 | Mozared | You re-installed the beta? |
| 19:46.59 | Tugn | ehm...yes. |
| 19:47.04 | Tugn | is that wrong ? :o( |
| 19:47.09 | Mozared | No, but it causes this |
| 19:47.17 | Tugn | ah |
| 19:47.18 | Mozared | It doesn't update and disallows you to get the editor |
| 19:47.21 | Tugn | how to fix it ? :s |
| 19:47.23 | Mozared | It's a common problem |
| 19:47.46 | Mozared | The only way I know to fix it is to download a working version of the updated beta+editor |
| 19:47.58 | Mozared | Someone said earlier that he put up a torrent with just that in it, but I can't help you as to where to find it |
| 19:48.14 | Tugn | Argh. |
| 19:48.34 | A1win | well it shouldn't be very long for the beta to continue either |
| 19:49.09 | Tugn | When do you think the beta coming up again ? |
| 19:49.29 | Mozared | Within 2 or 3 days is my guess |
| 19:49.38 | Mozared | If we're lucky, tomorrow or something |
| 19:49.42 | Mozared | If not, a little bit longer |
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| 19:49.53 | Mozared | But I don't expect it to last any longer than the 10th at most |
| 19:50.46 | wOlfLinG | Woot! terrain done :D |
| 19:51.20 | ProzaicMuze | It's up rite naow! |
| 19:51.24 | ProzaicMuze | <.< |
| 19:51.25 | ProzaicMuze | >.> |
| 19:51.28 | wOlfLinG | My guess for the beta up date is tomorrow, what with the american holiday and all |
| 19:51.28 | Mozared | For what, Wolf? |
| 19:51.44 | wOlfLinG | The terrain for my map :) |
| 19:51.53 | Mozared | Yeah but... for what map? |
| 19:51.56 | Mozared | What are you working on? =P |
| 19:51.58 | wOlfLinG | Grand Arena |
| 19:52.05 | wOlfLinG | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/grand-arena/ |
| 19:52.26 | Mozared | Nice |
| 19:52.27 | wOlfLinG | Not much up there yet, but theres a few screens and 2 downloads i posted for help from Prozaic |
| 19:52.31 | Mozared | when are we going to get to see it? |
| 19:52.36 | wOlfLinG | Anyway, just made the terrain |
| 19:53.00 | wOlfLinG | No release date yet |
| 19:53.13 | wOlfLinG | Still need 60% or so of the data and 95% of the triggers xD |
| 19:53.21 | wOlfLinG | But terrain is done :D |
| 19:53.23 | Mozared | I meant the terrain! Show us screenshots! I want to know what you've cooked up =P |
| 19:53.45 | wOlfLinG | Ill upload the new version so you can open it and see it now :) |
| 19:53.47 | depthsofchaos | he just wants to bash it!! |
| 19:54.02 | Mozared | Pfff, I don't bash people |
| 19:54.05 | Mozared | I'm interested in terrain =P |
| 19:54.07 | depthsofchaos | ok then i will |
| 19:54.09 | depthsofchaos | :p |
| 19:54.16 | Mozared | Bastard =P |
| 19:54.20 | wOlfLinG | Basically, its on Shakuras, and theres an old abandoned base nearby. Theres a mountain and other stuff |
| 19:54.34 | wOlfLinG | Its a 14 player map and is the biggest size it can go :) |
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| 19:57.20 | wOlfLinG | The terrained version can be found here: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/grand-arena/files/3-v0-05/ |
| 19:58.11 | wOlfLinG | btw, Mozared, ive been sorta using your tutorial. When i say sorta, i mean reading it and doing my own thing ^^ |
| 19:58.42 | Mozared | I... suppose that's good? |
| 19:58.55 | Mozared | Unless you mean "I've been reading it and doing exactly what it says I shouldn't do"? =P |
| 19:59.32 | depthsofchaos | oh fuck i have just seen the most disgusting thing |
| 20:00.16 | wOlfLinG | Hopr its not my map >:( |
| 20:00.22 | depthsofchaos | ill share it so i dont live alone with the burden |
| 20:00.24 | depthsofchaos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUecNSQQtVg |
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| 20:00.40 | depthsofchaos | now that you mention your map.. |
| 20:00.46 | Mozared | It's not that video of the dancing japanese man wearing a horse mask cooking mushrooms, is it? |
| 20:00.53 | wOlfLinG | @Mozared, well, i can never follow tutorials. Just ask Prozaic ^^. |
| 20:01.53 | Mozared | I don't intend for people to follow mine to the letter... it's more of an 'overal scheme' |
| 20:01.55 | wOlfLinG | Depths, can't see it :D |
| 20:01.58 | Mozared | But, glad to hear it helped =) |
| 20:02.04 | wOlfLinG | Copyright issues or something :) |
| 20:02.22 | wOlfLinG | It helped. Although, i knew the general overview anyway |
| 20:02.39 | depthsofchaos | youre damn lucky |
| 20:03.03 | wOlfLinG | One thing i cannot seem to do though is get doodads and units looking right in my map. usually i end up placing way too many things :) |
| 20:03.22 | Mozared | I see what you mean |
| 20:03.33 | Mozared | I don't dislike what you've done per se, but it seems like everything is all over the place |
| 20:03.38 | wOlfLinG | yeah |
| 20:03.45 | wOlfLinG | Thats why im not that good :) |
| 20:03.50 | ProzaicMuze | I's a pro terrainer. My map is greater than thou |
| 20:04.07 | wOlfLinG | Although is the actual textureing any good? |
| 20:04.30 | Mozared | I'd say there's more room for overlap near the ramps |
| 20:04.38 | Mozared | Now it's like "TEMPLE STOPS HERE. Mountains start here!" |
| 20:04.44 | Mozared | Aside from that, it's awesome |
| 20:04.54 | wOlfLinG | yeah. Some of those i added after the texturing though (i forgot to add them before xD) |
| 20:05.32 | wOlfLinG | I thought: Is it better to have pro texturing or a way to get into most of the map? |
| 20:05.41 | wOlfLinG | I eventually decided, movement :D |
| 20:05.56 | Mozared | Well |
| 20:06.02 | Mozared | I'm not sure exactly what you want to do with the map eventually |
| 20:06.07 | Mozared | But it *is* pretty wide like this |
| 20:06.22 | Mozared | If you don't restrict movement you run the risk of the map being boring because you spend 50% of your time running towards your enemies |
| 20:06.34 | wOlfLinG | Well, it is a 14 player map. Probably a bit too big though |
| 20:07.01 | wOlfLinG | Its also a hero map though |
| 20:07.03 | Mozared | Hmm, you do have a point there |
| 20:07.18 | wOlfLinG | So its not like 'Zomg! I iz too close to mah enemy! D:' |
| 20:07.47 | wOlfLinG | but i don't want it to be a tiny map. I want HUGE, EPIC, MASSIVE GAMES |
| 20:08.03 | Mozared | It could do with some focal points I reckon... like temples on the high ground |
| 20:08.13 | Mozared | But it all really depends on what direction you want to take it |
| 20:08.20 | Mozared | If you apply massive graphics to your spells and all |
| 20:08.24 | Mozared | You'll want a lot of clear land |
| 20:08.39 | wOlfLinG | Well, the temples are the shops, so i don't want too many. I want people to fight over them |
| 20:08.50 | Mozared | No not like that |
| 20:08.53 | Mozared | I mean... doodad temples |
| 20:08.56 | Mozared | With walls and all |
| 20:08.59 | wOlfLinG | Ah, right |
| 20:09.19 | Mozared | Just to add a little bit of depth |
| 20:09.30 | wOlfLinG | Ill add some temples and stuff. And remove a lot of plants xD |
| 20:09.35 | Mozared | So that you don't go up a ramp, look around and see a huge empty feeld =P |
| 20:09.41 | Mozared | Aye, do that =P |
| 20:09.54 | Mozared | Definitely remove the plants from the higher ground.... tiles+plants never work well |
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| 20:10.15 | Mozared | And when you place doodads, try and place them together... clusters of doodads work better than "tree.... rock..... tree..... tree...." etc |
| 20:11.02 | wOlfLinG | yeah |
| 20:11.11 | wOlfLinG | Im a doodad, actor and trigger noob now xD |
| 20:11.29 | Sixen | Prozaic is Terraining now? |
| 20:11.36 | Sixen | ProzaicMuze is the new Bo Jackson. |
| 20:11.42 | Sixen | Proz knows. |
| 20:11.47 | Mozared | He's finally seen the light |
| 20:11.59 | Sixen | :P |
| 20:12.51 | Demonette | Only the glass is transparent |
| 20:14.09 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 20:14.22 | ProzaicMuze | I think it's more like I'm a graphic artist by profession, so terraining comes naturally ;) |
| 20:14.37 | Mozared | Why'd you start off in the data editor then, though? |
| 20:14.55 | ProzaicMuze | Because you can really only do one thing with terraining |
| 20:14.59 | ProzaicMuze | Make pretty maps lol |
| 20:15.22 | ProzaicMuze | So I need Data stuff so I can combine my pretty maps with pretty graphics :D |
| 20:15.34 | Mozared | Well yeah, knowing everything obviously helps =P |
| 20:15.48 | ProzaicMuze | That and I noticed most people knew triggers already |
| 20:15.59 | ProzaicMuze | So I figured if I forged ahead with Data Editor stuff I could make the Trigger junkies my lackeys >:D |
| 20:16.20 | Mozared | I know a little bit of everything... it's just that I don't know enough of anything but terraining to actually 'advertise' it |
| 20:16.30 | Mozared | I can do some triggers, but you don't want me as triggerer/coder for your map |
| 20:17.19 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 20:18.02 | ProzaicMuze | Well, the real reason for me is that I originally came to the editor to make a map |
| 20:18.13 | ProzaicMuze | And I've mainly learned things in the order I needed them |
| 20:18.24 | ProzaicMuze | So I made my pretty map and realized "oh crap my units are boring" |
| 20:18.27 | ProzaicMuze | So I learned how to do that |
| 20:18.36 | Mozared | That's what I did in Warcraft 3 |
| 20:18.48 | Mozared | The problem is I ended up with a map which was playable but had a lot of bugs in every department |
| 20:19.00 | Mozared | And back then I liked terraining, so I figured I'd stick with that, at least mostly |
| 20:19.07 | ProzaicMuze | lol thankfully the Data Editor is more powerful :D |
| 20:19.24 | Mozared | Just a shame it's so complicated |
| 20:19.29 | Mozared | I could edit units fairly well in the world editor |
| 20:19.32 | ProzaicMuze | Granted I have zero experience with prior editors, so I can't really say much about that |
| 20:21.15 | Sixen | Really? |
| 20:21.23 | Sixen | You didn't do any prior Mapping? |
| 20:21.25 | ProzaicMuze | Nope |
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| 20:21.35 | Sixen | Nice |
| 20:22.00 | ProzaicMuze | Unless you count Age of Empires cryptic system :S |
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| 20:22.15 | Sixen | :p |
| 20:22.16 | ProzaicMuze | I usually just created a bunch of stock units and had at it though. . . so not much experience from that |
| 20:22.38 | ProzaicMuze | I'm a very quick learner though, so it helps |
| 20:22.48 | ProzaicMuze | I really only started with mapping when I first posted on the Mapstersite |
| 20:23.41 | Sixen | Aren't we lucky? :P./ |
| 20:23.53 | Mozared | I just love it that we're still in beta, on that behalf |
| 20:24.03 | Sixen | lol |
| 20:24.06 | Mozared | When the game actually comes out we'll all be 'veterans' already =P |
| 20:24.12 | heysparky | howst folks |
| 20:24.20 | Mozared | hey hey |
| 20:24.21 | heysparky | er.... howdy |
| 20:24.24 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 20:24.27 | Mozared | Wait, that didn't work |
| 20:24.36 | Mozared | Hey sparks |
| 20:24.38 | Mozared | That's better |
| 20:26.19 | ProzaicMuze | sparks. . . |
| 20:26.20 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 20:26.35 | ProzaicMuze | it's sparky! |
| 20:26.39 | ProzaicMuze | like spunky |
| 20:26.59 | Mozared | I like ending names with s's though |
| 20:27.02 | heysparky | well, sparks is what sparky is derived from :) |
| 20:27.13 | Mozared | Hah, am I good or what? |
| 20:27.50 | ProzaicMuze | psh |
| 20:27.54 | ProzaicMuze | psh and psh |
| 20:28.17 | ProzaicMuze | How am I s'posed to derive sexy from sparks? |
| 20:28.33 | ProzaicMuze | All i get is sex. . . from. . . sparks. . . . ok I agree Mozared :D She's sparks :D |
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| 20:28.50 | heysparky | is puzzled. |
| 20:29.09 | Sixen | Interesting conversation. |
| 20:29.16 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 20:29.18 | Sixen | :P |
| 20:29.22 | Mozared | slowly backs off and goes back to his map. |
| 20:29.24 | ProzaicMuze | Don't mind me, I'm not really here |
| 20:29.34 | ProzaicMuze | And my charming wit isn't here either |
| 20:29.36 | ProzaicMuze | So that's my excuse |
| 20:30.23 | heysparky | interesting isn't the world I'd use |
| 20:30.25 | heysparky | :) |
| 20:30.29 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 20:30.53 | Mozared | What do you do, actually, Sparks? |
| 20:30.56 | Mozared | Mapping-wise, I mean |
| 20:30.56 | ProzaicMuze | clearly phails horribly at being debonaire |
| 20:31.11 | heysparky | working on a campaign style map |
| 20:31.16 | Mozared | Single player? |
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| 20:31.20 | heysparky | yeah |
| 20:31.25 | Mozared | =O |
| 20:31.29 | Mozared | What's the story? I love those |
| 20:31.35 | Mozared | (Though co-op multiplayer is cooler) |
| 20:31.36 | heysparky | the mechanics I've built would be a good multiplayer |
| 20:31.56 | Mozared | Well, tell us! |
| 20:31.59 | Mozared | What's the story? |
| 20:32.06 | Mozared | What race? How? Who? Where? What? |
| 20:32.06 | heysparky | Zerg queens on Char Aleph are battling to produce a new breed of zerg |
| 20:32.11 | heysparky | you control one of the queens |
| 20:32.19 | ProzaicMuze | lol, cat fight in space? |
| 20:32.27 | heysparky | basically |
| 20:32.44 | ProzaicMuze | Add mud and it'll be epic! |
| 20:33.02 | Mozared | Do you have a project page yet? |
| 20:33.03 | heysparky | Your feedback has been noted. |
| 20:33.06 | ProzaicMuze | :D |
| 20:33.09 | heysparky | No, Mozared. |
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| 20:33.18 | Mozared | Hmm, alright, I'll patiently wait then |
| 20:33.25 | ProzaicMuze | Not to steal the attention, but I should make a project page lol |
| 20:33.32 | heysparky | please, steal away |
| 20:33.33 | Mozared | Now I want to get started on my own campaign even more |
| 20:33.37 | heysparky | :) |
| 20:33.50 | ProzaicMuze | Yeh know, I could be evil and "leak" her map to you. . . |
| 20:33.51 | ProzaicMuze | but |
| 20:34.03 | heysparky | lol, it changes every week, so |
| 20:34.05 | ProzaicMuze | She'd prolly unleash her womanly vengeance upon me through teh interwebz |
| 20:34.17 | Mozared | There's a joke regarding your many PMs here somewhere |
| 20:34.19 | Mozared | But I can't quite find it |
| 20:34.39 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 20:34.42 | ProzaicMuze | I really need to change my name lol |
| 20:34.57 | heysparky | Prozaic fits |
| 20:34.58 | ProzaicMuze | Circumvent all teh PMs jokes that are bound to become commonpalce |
| 20:35.16 | ProzaicMuze | IDentity Crisis, my normal name, fits too lol |
| 20:35.27 | Mozared | Now I need to go and find and quote that bit |
| 20:35.40 | ProzaicMuze | deletes your chat log before you can |
| 20:36.44 | ProzaicMuze | oh, and because I'm a shameless advertiser |
| 20:36.44 | ProzaicMuze | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/4347-poll-what-do-you-want-to-see-next/#p7 |
| 20:36.46 | ProzaicMuze | go vote! |
| 20:37.22 | Helral | [20:54] <Helral> PM: you've got a lot of PMs problems? [20:54] <ProzaicMuze> Oh yeah. . . I hate teh cramps :( |
| 20:37.59 | Mozared | There we go, found it and the thread |
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| 20:38.07 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 20:38.24 | Sixen | lawl |
| 20:38.49 | Helral | it will haunt you for eternity, PM. ;p |
| 20:39.10 | ProzaicMuze | :( |
| 20:39.22 | Helral | eternity ain't that long.... |
| 20:39.27 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, like a day |
| 20:39.29 | ProzaicMuze | then you'll all forget |
| 20:39.35 | Mozared | ARGHWIKICREOLE |
| 20:39.44 | Helral | too bad onetwo wasn't online. |
| 20:39.51 | Mozared | 'Plain Text' |
| 20:39.58 | Mozared | Now there's a markup type that suits me |
| 20:40.03 | Mozared | Nothing better than good ol' plain text |
| 20:40.14 | Helral | there is: safe html ;) |
| 20:40.33 | Mozared | Now I can't get the quote to work |
| 20:40.55 | Helral | Mozared use \\ for linebreak in wikicreole. |
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| 20:42.10 | Mozared | Thanks, that did it |
| 20:42.13 | heysparky | howdy TLM |
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| 20:42.38 | Mozared | Hmmm... I don't believe I've seen TLM around yet, but he seems like a happy fellow |
| 20:42.45 | Mozared | (or a stoned one, I suppose) |
| 20:43.58 | Squeegeez | Why am i still up?? I just looked at 226 pages of comics O_O |
| 20:43.58 | ProzaicMuze | That's a lie |
| 20:44.36 | Mozared | Which one would that be? |
| 20:44.52 | Squeegeez | http://www.smbc-comics.com/#comic |
| 20:44.54 | ProzaicMuze | Uhhhhh. . . both? I dunno, is that a lie squeegeez? |
| 20:45.04 | ProzaicMuze | Wait, you weren't talking to me |
| 20:45.04 | TheLaughingMan | ProzaicMuze |
| 20:45.05 | ProzaicMuze | Doh |
| 20:45.11 | ProzaicMuze | Yes good sir? |
| 20:45.38 | TheLaughingMan | Find out about the selection area? |
| 20:45.46 | Squeegeez | what? Damn you ill timed messages! "That's a lie" wasn't meant for me, was it? =P |
| 20:46.09 | ProzaicMuze | lol, no it wasn't lol |
| 20:46.22 | ProzaicMuze | I'm really good at having bad timing |
| 20:46.53 | Squeegeez | or really bad at having good timing..? |
| 20:47.44 | Mozared | The mind wobbles |
| 20:48.21 | ProzaicMuze | :( |
| 20:48.32 | ProzaicMuze | I'd rather be good at being bad, than simply being bad Xp |
| 20:48.57 | Mozared | At least you can be used as a bad example if you're bad at being good, though |
| 20:48.57 | ProzaicMuze | Granted after my video compression fiasco, I should get used to being bad |
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| 20:49.56 | TheLaughingMan | Calm down ProzaicMuze |
| 20:50.38 | ProzaicMuze | lol calm down? |
| 20:50.41 | ProzaicMuze | And no, I haven't yet :( |
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| 20:51.18 | ProzaicMuze | It seems to be hardcoded as even the tooltip says something like "Radius of Selection Circle" implying it can't be readily changed |
| 20:51.45 | RodOfNOD | hi all |
| 20:52.15 | RedWraith | Hello, RodOfN0D. |
| 20:52.17 | RedWraith | How are you? |
| 20:52.21 | RedWraith | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 20:52.23 | purl | tehwildcard <~Jer@pool-96-252-135-143.tampfl.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 19h 35m 43s ago, saying: 'oh'. |
| 20:52.31 | RodOfNOD | im a good ty for asking |
| 20:52.50 | RodOfNOD | today is my first attempt at actually making a fully working unit |
| 20:52.50 | TheLaughingMan | ProzaicMuze, do you want another ship |
| 20:53.58 | ProzaicMuze | Sure :) |
| 20:54.04 | ProzaicMuze | Did you fix lighting issues/. |
| 20:54.05 | TheLaughingMan | which one |
| 20:54.06 | ProzaicMuze | ?* |
| 20:54.12 | TheLaughingMan | Ehh |
| 20:54.21 | TheLaughingMan | I know how to do it in Blender |
| 20:54.31 | RodOfNOD | ProzaicMuze the other day you said you start from scratch when ur making abilities what about units? |
| 20:54.36 | Squeegeez | i'm out, eat, sleep -.- |
| 20:54.47 | RodOfNOD | hi Squeegeez sorry i missed you the other day |
| 20:54.53 | TheLaughingMan | Needs someone good in 3DS Max to figure out how to do it in 3DS Max and to also use it in SC2 Models |
| 20:54.58 | ProzaicMuze | @Rod, it depends on the unit. Usually I'll duplicate the unit with the model I want UNLESS I'm making a custom model. |
| 20:55.13 | RodOfNOD | ok so when do u duplicate the parts and when do u not |
| 20:55.21 | Squeegeez | before i go, anybody familiar with setting data fields via catalog triggers? |
| 20:55.39 | `MindWorX | I tried it |
| 20:55.42 | ProzaicMuze | @TLM, can't you do it in Blender and then import it into 3DsMax? |
| 20:55.42 | RodOfNOD | for example the abilties/actors/models etc |
| 20:56.00 | `MindWorX | Squeegeez, I might still have the map where i tried it |
| 20:56.11 | Squeegeez | did it work? |
| 20:56.14 | `MindWorX | Yea |
| 20:56.17 | ProzaicMuze | @Rod - When I duplicate, I always check the actors |
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| 20:56.18 | TheLaughingMan | I could, but the issue is changing it to a SC2 Mdel |
| 20:56.22 | `MindWorX | I added random damage to a missile turret |
| 20:56.37 | ProzaicMuze | Then I'll check the Effects, Weapons and Turret ONLY if I plan on keeping them with adjustments. Otherwise I'll make those from scratch too. |
| 20:56.38 | RodOfNOD | why do 2 units with the same model need 2 actors? |
| 20:57.00 | ProzaicMuze | Because each actor will have different events |
| 20:57.09 | ProzaicMuze | If you have Marine L1 and Marine L2 |
| 20:57.18 | Squeegeez | did you have to use a complex field path? with arrays? |
| 20:57.23 | ProzaicMuze | You can't have the same actor for both, otherwise everything that is setup for Marine L1 will affect Marine L2 |
| 20:57.34 | `MindWorX | Squeegeez, Nope |
| 20:57.37 | ProzaicMuze | individual actors allows you to individualize the two units |
| 20:57.37 | Squeegeez | because that's the stuff i'm having trouble with, the syntax of a complex path |
| 20:58.04 | `MindWorX | Squeegeez, Catalog - Set value of Effects "MissileTurretU" "Amount" for player ... |
| 20:58.15 | ProzaicMuze | @TLM, well if you can port it around through Blender and into 3Ds Max, doesn't that allow portign into SC2? |
| 20:58.16 | `MindWorX | That's how i changed the damage of the missile turret |
| 20:58.39 | TheLaughingMan | Nah |
| 20:58.48 | ProzaicMuze | :( |
| 20:58.53 | TheLaughingMan | I have to change the materials and the materials are different |
| 20:59.02 | Squeegeez | thanks, i think i'll take another stab at it tomorrow |
| 20:59.09 | TheLaughingMan | There are maps for it but I need to know what SC2 needs to know to do lights |
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| 21:01.35 | onetwo | you guys might find this interesting |
| 21:01.40 | onetwo | on bnet theyre posting great forum history posts |
| 21:01.43 | onetwo | and one has sixen in it |
| 21:01.46 | onetwo | from a year and a half ago |
| 21:01.52 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 21:01.53 | onetwo | http://www.the-ghetto.org/Miscellaneous/forum3.jpg |
| 21:01.59 | RodOfNOD | hey any word of next beta start date? |
| 21:02.18 | onetwo | next week its gonna have to be... |
| 21:02.30 | onetwo | were gettting a bit close to release |
| 21:02.36 | TheLaughingMan | Tuesday |
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| 21:04.35 | Sixen | lol |
| 21:04.48 | rrowland | I had the beta installer in like |
| 21:04.50 | rrowland | 2007 |
| 21:05.09 | ProzaicMuze | onetwo |
| 21:05.11 | RodOfNOD | sorry guys gonna be asking alot of nub questions today i can tell...... |
| 21:05.11 | ProzaicMuze | I need you |
| 21:05.12 | ProzaicMuze | to |
| 21:05.15 | ProzaicMuze | make a tutorial on video compression |
| 21:05.17 | ProzaicMuze | and PM me it |
| 21:05.18 | ProzaicMuze | Because I suck |
| 21:05.19 | ProzaicMuze | horribly |
| 21:05.26 | RodOfNOD | on the marine it has this field called rrank: where do i change that and how is it used? |
| 21:05.27 | ProzaicMuze | so bad, in fact, that I got nothing done yesterday |
| 21:05.37 | ProzaicMuze | Instead, I spend the entire day showing everyonein here how bad I am with videos :( |
| 21:05.45 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 21:05.46 | ProzaicMuze | spent* |
| 21:05.49 | onetwo | k prozaic |
| 21:05.51 | onetwo | heres what i do |
| 21:05.57 | ProzaicMuze | no no no! |
| 21:05.57 | ProzaicMuze | PM |
| 21:05.59 | onetwo | out of my video editing program i render an uncompressed avi |
| 21:06.01 | onetwo | oh |
| 21:06.12 | onetwo | you want me to use PMs on you? |
| 21:06.13 | ProzaicMuze | I need more PMs so I have a valid reason to complain to vjeux about PMs :D |
| 21:06.22 | Hati | RodOfNOD: its in gamedata iirc |
| 21:06.30 | ProzaicMuze | Man. . . that sounds so bad |
| 21:06.32 | ProzaicMuze | bah Xp |
| 21:06.38 | RodOfNOD | iirc? |
| 21:06.38 | onetwo | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/off-topic/4128-sc2mapster-quote-thread/#p9 |
| 21:06.55 | Hati | if i remember correct |
| 21:06.56 | LordAbyss | hello everyone |
| 21:06.59 | ProzaicMuze | doh! |
| 21:07.45 | RodOfNOD | id need a bit more specific Hati :P |
| 21:07.53 | RodOfNOD | just trying to figure out what it means and where i change it |
| 21:07.59 | Hati | You open GalaxyEditor |
| 21:08.03 | Hati | You press F7 |
| 21:08.11 | LordAbyss | can you set the animation speed of a unit in the data ediotr? |
| 21:08.18 | RodOfNOD | yes i got that part :P |
| 21:08.25 | Hati | Choose GameData in the dropdown (one of them) |
| 21:08.31 | Hati | its quite on bottom |
| 21:08.52 | depthsofchaos | how to change auto acquire target range ?:o |
| 21:10.50 | Hati | RodOfNOD: GE -> F7 -> DataType: Game UI Data -> |
| 21:10.51 | Hati | FieldDefault SC2 UI Settings |
| 21:10.51 | Hati | Unit Kill Rank +(0|5|10|15|20):(UnitKillRank/Rank1 (Unknown)|UnitKillRank/Rank2 (Unknown)|UnitKillRank/Rank3 (Unknown)|UnitKillRank/Rank4 (Unknown)|UnitKillRank/Rank5 (Unknown)) |
| 21:11.13 | Mozared | Do Xil lower ground areas *always* end in fog? |
| 21:11.13 | RodOfNOD | ok so its a field that changes over time as they get kills? |
| 21:11.20 | Mozared | For some reason I can't get a normal lower ground area up |
| 21:11.43 | Hati | yea |
| 21:11.57 | Mozared | Oh, I fixed it... they just work in a different way than all other tilesets somehow *shrugs* |
| 21:11.58 | Mozared | Never mind |
| 21:12.00 | RodOfNOD | k cool ty |
| 21:13.21 | TheLaughingMan | ProzaicMuze, what ship do you want |
| 21:13.32 | ProzaicMuze | erm |
| 21:13.44 | ProzaicMuze | Nox is the Gallente Mothership, right? |
| 21:13.50 | TheLaughingMan | hmm |
| 21:13.57 | ProzaicMuze | Or Supercarrier, wahtever they call it now |
| 21:14.15 | TheLaughingMan | Nyx |
| 21:14.19 | ProzaicMuze | Ahh |
| 21:14.23 | ProzaicMuze | I was close |
| 21:14.32 | onetwo | http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6921/lolbfb.jpg |
| 21:14.34 | ProzaicMuze | Nyx and Cruor (plus it's CR version, can't remember name) are cool ships too |
| 21:14.34 | onetwo | thats hilarious |
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| 21:16.05 | TheLaughingMan | http://www.ravestats.com/public/fen/faction-ship-cruor-1.jpg |
| 21:16.07 | TheLaughingMan | Tat? |
| 21:16.10 | LordAbyss | what do i change in the data editor to make a units animation slower? |
| 21:16.27 | Helral | nicely posted Mozared. |
| 21:16.41 | Mozared | Wait, what did I do? |
| 21:16.51 | RedWraith | Very nice. |
| 21:16.55 | RedWraith | I'm impressed. |
| 21:17.37 | Mozared | Wait, seriously, what? |
| 21:17.37 | Helral | the IRC off-topic thread ;p |
| 21:17.42 | Mozared | Ahh =P |
| 21:17.52 | Mozared | Took some time digging it up though |
| 21:18.13 | Helral | :D |
| 21:19.10 | ProzaicMuze | @TLM, yeah that |
| 21:19.52 | Helral | btw anyone know how to use an image as background for an inventory? |
| 21:20.24 | Mozared | Additionaly, is there any easy way to find the exact middle of your map? |
| 21:20.32 | Mozared | (without having to count all the grid squares 'n all) |
| 21:20.37 | RodOfNOD | i think its sad they dont list wc2 as OTHER Games on their site :P |
| 21:20.43 | Helral | center of region (Entire map) |
| 21:21.07 | Mozared | I mean... outside of triggers |
| 21:21.10 | Triceron | Argh piss me off! |
| 21:21.21 | Mozared | I want to place a bit of cliff and it needs to be in the dead center |
| 21:21.22 | Triceron | This stupid model still won't export correctly >_< |
| 21:21.31 | Mozared | Normally I count all the grid thingies but on a map this large that'll take ages |
| 21:21.36 | Mozared | (and I keep miscounting >.>) |
| 21:22.22 | RodOfNOD | hi Triceron |
| 21:22.28 | Triceron | hey Rod |
| 21:22.40 | RodOfNOD | which model is causing u pain? |
| 21:22.45 | Triceron | Demon Hunter |
| 21:22.51 | Triceron | my weighting gets messed up |
| 21:23.04 | Triceron | it's fine in Max, but when I export it looks messed |
| 21:23.14 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/DH_messed.jpg |
| 21:23.21 | Triceron | like the ears, the feet, sometimes the blades |
| 21:23.37 | Triceron | and like when I reweight one or two points, it gets messed up in different areas. |
| 21:23.37 | Mozared | It looks like someone pulled him through a black hole |
| 21:23.44 | Triceron | I can't figure out what's goin gon |
| 21:23.55 | RodOfNOD | anyone know if something like this exists for sc2 yet and has a link? http://classic.battle.net/war3/basics/armorandweapontypes.shtml |
| 21:24.16 | RodOfNOD | possibly a bug in the import/exporter? |
| 21:24.20 | Helral | Mozared: View Entire Map and the zoom straight in. |
| 21:24.32 | Triceron | the thing is it works 100% fine with the original Demon Hunter mesh |
| 21:24.37 | Triceron | the War3 version |
| 21:24.47 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 21:24.50 | Triceron | and I'm trying to do the exact same thing with my mesh, and mine gets messed up |
| 21:24.54 | Mozared | Thanks Hel, I'll try that |
| 21:24.56 | RodOfNOD | ic |
| 21:24.58 | Triceron | weighting to the same bones |
| 21:25.21 | Triceron | I can't figure out what that War3 version is doing that mine is messing up |
| 21:25.34 | RodOfNOD | ProzaicMuze u have any ideas on where i can find this info for sc2? http://classic.battle.net/war3/basics/armorandweapontypes.shtml |
| 21:26.31 | Mozared | Rod, do you need the exact numbers? |
| 21:26.37 | Mozared | Or just 'what is effective against what'? |
| 21:26.40 | Mozared | Since that's easy to figure out |
| 21:26.41 | Sixen | Rod, that info isn't up on Battle.net yet =| |
| 21:26.47 | Sixen | There's no SC2 info site for it |
| 21:26.51 | onetwo | it might be in the editor somewhere |
| 21:27.02 | onetwo | look at damage effect |
| 21:27.06 | Sixen | It's SOMEWHERE, just not on Bnet :p |
| 21:27.06 | onetwo | like zealot weapon |
| 21:27.08 | onetwo | Psi Blades |
| 21:27.17 | onetwo | look in Psi Blades weapon effect |
| 21:27.20 | onetwo | itll have a field |
| 21:27.23 | Triceron | War3's armor was % based |
| 21:27.25 | onetwo | for how much multiplier damage it does |
| 21:27.32 | onetwo | based on bio, armored, etc |
| 21:27.39 | onetwo | youd have to look at several weapons |
| 21:27.39 | Triceron | SC2 is only flat + bonus |
| 21:27.50 | Mozared | http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_types |
| 21:27.52 | Alpha_vst | i thought armor classes was only for a visual thing |
| 21:27.53 | Mozared | http://starcraft.incgamers.com/wiki/Damage_types |
| 21:27.58 | Mozared | those two combined should have what you're looking for |
| 21:28.00 | Mozared | google ftw |
| 21:28.08 | onetwo | starcraft 1? |
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| 21:28.15 | onetwo | nvm |
| 21:28.18 | RodOfNOD | ya i was just about to look on that wiki |
| 21:28.25 | Helral | Rod: there are only 3 damage types afaik for sc2. |
| 21:28.32 | onetwo | melee ranged spell splash |
| 21:28.43 | onetwo | BONUS damage is done on a per unit basis now |
| 21:28.48 | onetwo | i believe |
| 21:28.49 | Helral | 4 damage methods. |
| 21:28.49 | Mozared | Wait, I'm an idiot |
| 21:28.55 | Triceron | 4 damage methods? |
| 21:29.05 | Sixen | The SC2 guide is coming later this year |
| 21:29.08 | Sixen | says geoff frazier |
| 21:29.09 | onetwo | afk |
| 21:29.10 | Helral | melee, ranged, spell, splash = method. if you ask me ;p |
| 21:29.33 | RodOfNOD | well i have my risk map im just trying to "emulate" the same as wc3 |
| 21:29.54 | ProzaicMuze | Rod, you can also got to the starcraft2armory |
| 21:30.39 | Helral | Full/Mega/Minimal/No <-- damage taken types |
| 21:30.50 | ProzaicMuze | http://sc2armory.com/ |
| 21:31.04 | Helral | ow same list also for damage dealing. |
| 21:31.24 | Helral | see trigger: Unit - Change Unit Damage |
| 21:31.33 | RodOfNOD | ya i saw that |
| 21:32.41 | Helral | at sc2 I think you modify how well a weapon works by setting how well a unit fights against another unit. |
| 21:33.55 | Helral | but that could also just be an information bit. |
| 21:34.16 | Helral | just found the listing: it's under tech tree so prolly informational bit only.. |
| 21:34.31 | Sixen | Helral, the info is in the Tech Tree in-game? |
| 21:35.00 | Helral | dunno. it is listed in the data editor at the unit under Tech Tree - Glossary .... |
| 21:35.29 | Helral | can't test it in my map cause I removed the tech tree help items there ;p |
| 21:35.35 | Sixen | OK :) |
| 21:36.20 | Helral | http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9531/screenshot060lw.jpg <-- help overview for my map. |
| 21:36.34 | RodOfNOD | so the ? is can we add in new armor and attack types? |
| 21:36.43 | Helral | not yet afaik. |
| 21:36.54 | Helral | since I haven't seen any way to set armor/attack types. |
| 21:37.27 | RodOfNOD | i remember when wc3 first came out u couldnt do it in the editor but u could do it behind the scenese |
| 21:37.30 | RodOfNOD | scenes |
| 21:37.51 | Helral | Rod: can you add types now in wc3? |
| 21:37.54 | RedWraith | Helral, how do you get it to save dungeon levels without using up massive storage? |
| 21:38.03 | Helral | I thought you could only alter the existing ones. |
| 21:38.05 | RodOfNOD | no but u can change the matrix and the names |
| 21:38.12 | Helral | Red: I don't save them ;p |
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| 21:38.23 | RodOfNOD | Helral -chat 201 hehe |
| 21:38.25 | RedWraith | Helral, you don't just put them all on one giant map, do you? |
| 21:38.39 | RodOfNOD | grr i mean -zoom 201 |
| 21:38.41 | Helral | Red: I generate the level on the spot. |
| 21:38.47 | Helral | Rod: that works ;p |
| 21:39.00 | RodOfNOD | no error message eh |
| 21:39.05 | Helral | it just ain't handy to go over 200. |
| 21:39.10 | Helral | cause you can barely see anything then. |
| 21:39.15 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 21:39.22 | Helral | you can even go -zoom 1000 |
| 21:39.22 | RedWraith | Wait, so by going up and down stairs, I can have a new level? |
| 21:39.23 | RedWraith | :O |
| 21:39.25 | RodOfNOD | well u should enforce a no more u go |
| 21:39.34 | Helral | Red: you can't go up the stairs ;p only down. |
| 21:39.40 | RedWraith | lame |
| 21:39.42 | RedWraith | LAAAAAME |
| 21:39.50 | Triceron | oh shit I might know what the issue is |
| 21:39.58 | Triceron | oh shit oh shit oh shit! |
| 21:40.07 | Triceron | I need someone who knows Max tho >_< |
| 21:40.37 | Helral | Red: why would I bother with storing the generated map? to allow people to go up? |
| 21:40.44 | RedWraith | I remember Max...he died to that valkyrie a while back. :( |
| 21:40.46 | Helral | that takes too much memory, and time to do. |
| 21:40.47 | RedWraith | Yes. |
| 21:40.50 | LordAbyss | Say i wanted to decrease the speed of the thor missile, chat do i change? |
| 21:40.55 | LordAbyss | movement speed of it |
| 21:42.44 | Helral | Red: and I'll have to store which doors/chests have been opened, monsters have been killed, position of monsters still alive, starting position of everything else.... |
| 21:43.37 | RedWraith | Precisely. |
| 21:43.40 | RedWraith | bahahahahahahahaha |
| 21:43.57 | Helral | Abyss: go to Movers ->Thor AA->Motion Phases -> reduce the acceleration. |
| 21:44.56 | LordAbyss | sweet, thankyou |
| 21:45.02 | Helral | Red: so basicly my choice has been to not allow going up until I can store seeds. and use these for generation. |
| 21:45.29 | Triceron | Argh, I need to figure out how to get rid of envelopes on Skin modifier |
| 21:45.41 | Helral | once I can store seeds I only have to record changes and not everything. |
| 21:45.53 | `MindWorX | HElral, You should make it generate the map based on a seed string |
| 21:46.02 | `MindWorX | Then you can easily store upper levels |
| 21:46.10 | `MindWorX | In a simple string array |
| 21:46.42 | Helral | give me a random number generator that supports seeding and I'll do that. |
| 21:46.57 | `MindWorX | It doesn't support seeding? |
| 21:47.01 | `MindWorX | *sigh* |
| 21:47.09 | Helral | the current SC2 generator supports seeding, but not setting/getting current seed value. |
| 21:47.11 | `MindWorX | Its so stupid wc3 supports more than sc2 does :P |
| 21:47.15 | Helral | so in other words it's useless. |
| 21:47.51 | Helral | if it did support it then my first action would be store seed in an level array. |
| 21:47.54 | `MindWorX | Can i try the map? |
| 21:48.11 | Helral | v0.45 is posted on the forums. |
| 21:48.19 | `MindWorX | Linkie for awesoms? |
| 21:48.56 | RedWraith | I feel like I want people to get more points towards winning per game, perhaps as many as half the players in the game, but I am uncertain how to distribute these. |
| 21:49.02 | Helral | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/2407-helrals-random-dungeon-map/ |
| 21:49.17 | RedWraith | The top half of players would be quite lame in my opinion, only first and second really deserve anything. |
| 21:49.24 | RedWraith | I'm considering giving points based on random drops. |
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| 21:51.38 | zstepek | lol still downloading... says 4h remaining |
| 21:52.18 | Helral | lol |
| 21:52.27 | heysparky | hey, how in the devil do you use the nydus worm to spawn units? do you load up the canal and 'unload' ? is that skipping a step? has someone done this before I go figuring? |
| 21:53.23 | Helral | Nydus worm loads units and unloads them. |
| 21:53.33 | Helral | afaik. |
| 21:54.32 | heysparky | so you don't need the canal? |
| 21:54.47 | heysparky | or rather, you don't need the network? |
| 21:55.00 | Helral | is wondering now. |
| 21:55.05 | RodOfNOD | i have a hypothetical ? the max speed of units is much faster in this game so what would u estimate that 522 (wc3 max) would equal in sc2? |
| 21:55.18 | Helral | never really checked it. anyone else who did check it? |
| 21:55.23 | Helral | Rod: no idea |
| 21:55.50 | RodOfNOD | ill do some testing i guess |
| 21:55.54 | RodOfNOD | get out the ole timer |
| 21:56.28 | RodOfNOD | anyone guess at the fastest sc2 unit? |
| 21:56.28 | Helral | heysparky: it uses the network as well. |
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| 21:57.33 | Helral | heysparky: both (Nydus Network & Nydus Worm) use the "Nydus Canal Transport" ability. |
| 21:57.36 | RodOfNOD | heysparky why do u want to use the worm to spawn? |
| 21:58.54 | RodOfNOD | Helral am i correct you cant get variable damage ie 17-23? |
| 22:00.39 | Helral | think you can get variable dmg..... |
| 22:00.51 | TheLaughingMan | You can do random dmg |
| 22:01.00 | TheLaughingMan | base + random |
| 22:01.14 | RodOfNOD | ah goodie |
| 22:02.08 | Helral | Effect - Random0 |
| 22:02.14 | heysparky | Rod: zerg spawning in from off-map through the worm |
| 22:02.21 | heysparky | worm is the spitting end |
| 22:02.41 | heysparky | create unit > Nydus canal (worm) |
| 22:02.53 | heysparky | create as cargo > blah blah blah |
| 22:02.55 | RodOfNOD | right but im asking why dont u just create units via trigger |
| 22:03.01 | heysparky | issue order, set rally |
| 22:03.10 | heysparky | um... I AM creating them via trigger |
| 22:03.28 | RodOfNOD | i mean like createunit |
| 22:03.32 | heysparky | issue order > unload all |
| 22:03.39 | heysparky | theater, man, theater! |
| 22:03.46 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 22:03.55 | RodOfNOD | well i ask cuz of course risk has lots of spawning |
| 22:04.19 | heysparky | i'm making a campaign style map, it should look as 'real' as I can make it |
| 22:04.27 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
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| 22:06.58 | Triceron | fastest unit could be zergling with upgrade on creep |
| 22:07.12 | Triceron | the thing moves faster than anything I can recall |
| 22:07.37 | RodOfNOD | ya |
| 22:07.39 | RodOfNOD | good thinking |
| 22:10.49 | RodOfNOD | man i hate not knowing how to reset shit |
| 22:10.58 | deathnight114 | Is the beta back up? |
| 22:11.27 | deathnight114 | It says that i am not using the correct client version or something |
| 22:11.31 | deathnight114 | Will i have to re download it? |
| 22:12.32 | heysparky | what type of Action Definition setting do I need to set to make sure my action is done before the trigger moves on and does the next action? (make sense?) |
| 22:16.13 | Helral | heysparky: make sure it isn't a threaded one |
| 22:16.39 | heysparky | cool, ty |
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| 22:26.26 | LordAbyss | ok so say i want to increase the rate that a barrage of missiles comes out of the thor (modified version of his AA attack) do i changed Effect - Return Delay? |
| 22:27.51 | ProsaicMuse | No |
| 22:27.54 | ProsaicMuse | go to th eweapon |
| 22:27.56 | ProsaicMuse | change period |
| 22:28.26 | LordAbyss | I mean the little bit of time between each missile in a barrage fires |
| 22:28.26 | ProsaicMuse | Or do you mean how quickly the missile travels once it leaves the thor? |
| 22:28.38 | ProsaicMuse | Ahh, so spread out the volley? |
| 22:28.45 | LordAbyss | or shorten yes |
| 22:29.38 | ProsaicMuse | Go to the Effect - Thor Anti Air (Persistent |
| 22:29.47 | ProsaicMuse | And change the Period Durations |
| 22:29.59 | LordAbyss | thanks |
| 22:30.39 | ProsaicMuse | np |
| 22:30.42 | ProsaicMuse | btw, did you get my PM? |
| 22:31.26 | LordAbyss | looking at it now |
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| 22:32.58 | LordAbyss | dude, i love it. ill come up with names |
| 22:32.58 | ProsaicMuse | mmk :) |
| 22:33.06 | ProsaicMuse | sounds good :) |
| 22:33.27 | LordAbyss | after i get somewhere with my "giga thor" or something like that. making something for the compeition |
| 22:33.31 | Helral | Sixen you there? |
| 22:33.41 | ProsaicMuse | lol np abyss |
| 22:35.09 | heysparky | lol... Prozaic, I read that as anti perspirant |
| 22:35.28 | Sixen | What's up helral |
| 22:35.38 | Helral | I found a bug in the site ;p |
| 22:36.00 | Sixen | Orly? |
| 22:36.08 | Helral | it doesn't autoshrink images when there's a anker reference in the url. |
| 22:36.17 | Sixen | Oh hm |
| 22:36.22 | Sixen | Do you have an exmaple? |
| 22:36.36 | Helral | well not always ;p |
| 22:36.42 | ProsaicMuse | Xp |
| 22:36.49 | Helral | had one a few moments ago... |
| 22:36.55 | Helral | and now it's working correctly.... |
| 22:37.08 | RodOfNOD | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 22:37.22 | Sixen | Weird. |
| 22:37.24 | ProsaicMuse | I should start an ad campaign using SC2 for women's care products, eh? |
| 22:37.28 | Sixen | lol |
| 22:37.41 | deathnight114 | Did they open the beta back up? |
| 22:37.41 | RodOfNOD | makes me so mad |
| 22:37.45 | RodOfNOD | not yet |
| 22:37.53 | Helral | hmmmm seems like it only sometimes bugs.... usually when I load a certain page for the first time in memory.... |
| 22:38.32 | heysparky | anti perspirant is for men, good gravy, it's for men |
| 22:38.40 | RodOfNOD | ok so i have wc3 installed on my new comp from the battle.net download. but when i go to run it on bnet its giving me an error something about a file writing to my drive with no space which of course isnt true. i AM running on windows 7 do i need to run this app in some special mode? |
| 22:38.44 | heysparky | I should say, for men TOO |
| 22:39.16 | ProsaicMuse | psh |
| 22:39.25 | ProsaicMuse | you say that as if men actually USE anti-perspirant ;) |
| 22:39.27 | RodOfNOD | grr had to run as admin |
| 22:40.21 | heysparky | nap time |
| 22:40.24 | heysparky | see you cats later |
| 22:40.35 | Helral | cya sparky |
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| 22:41.26 | ProsaicMuse | psh |
| 22:41.30 | ProsaicMuse | Hel is the only cat |
| 22:41.36 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 22:41.41 | Alpha_vst | what a bitch |
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| 22:48.25 | LordAbyss | say i wanted to add a bunker like setup (kind of what is like on the uberlisk) would it just be easier to create the unit and have it attack multiple units at once instead of creating the building and having units enter it? |
| 22:48.31 | Helral | Sixen: hmmm found another one that didn't resize correctly on the first access to the page |
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| 22:51.19 | ProzaicMuze | @Abyss, all you have to do is give the unit that has th ebunker attached cargo slots and the Bunker behavior |
| 22:51.29 | ProzaicMuze | So no need to make a bajillion weapons |
| 22:51.42 | LordAbyss | k |
| 22:52.02 | LordAbyss | im starting to understand all this stuff |
| 22:53.57 | Helral|asleep | goodnight all |
| 22:58.44 | P_R_Deltoid | does anyone know how people do that really really thick outline on some units? |
| 22:58.53 | P_R_Deltoid | the video of the turn based system on the front page has it around the battle cruiser |
| 22:59.02 | P_R_Deltoid | near the end |
| 22:59.19 | Fatal5101 | dont panic people! |
| 22:59.21 | Fatal5101 | i am here |
| 22:59.52 | Mozared | Great! |
| 22:59.54 | Mozared | Who are you? |
| 23:01.13 | Fatal5101 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHpV-rUmofo |
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| 23:01.56 | Mozared | Damn, that's awesome |
| 23:02.09 | Fatal5101 | very |
| 23:06.41 | wOlfLinG | How big is a unit portrait? |
| 23:07.08 | Alpha_vst | WHY DID HE DO THAT |
| 23:07.11 | Mozared | generally the same size as a unit I reckon? |
| 23:08.48 | wOlfLinG | As in, pixel x pixel size |
| 23:08.56 | wOlfLinG | I need to know for my dialog |
| 23:11.10 | Mozared | Pooh, *that* I wouldn't know |
| 23:11.11 | P_R_Deltoid | It was pretty good, actually |
| 23:11.15 | P_R_Deltoid | I mean |
| 23:11.20 | P_R_Deltoid | as far as weather raps go |
| 23:11.31 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 23:11.32 | wOlfLinG | Wish the UK had a rapping weatherperson :( |
| 23:11.38 | P_R_Deltoid | The dancing old guy was pretty great though |
| 23:11.44 | Alpha_vst | ut he works for fox news... |
| 23:11.56 | P_R_Deltoid | yeah, but local fox is usually pretty silly |
| 23:12.07 | P_R_Deltoid | big fox is the super conservative ones, these people don't really care |
| 23:24.18 | wOlfLinG | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.57 | slightlyrandom | Time Lord? Awesome! |
| 23:25.14 | wOlfLinG | :) |
| 23:25.23 | wOlfLinG | It has a pwnsome animation and time field :D |
| 23:25.37 | slightlyrandom | Sonic Screwdriver ? |
| 23:26.26 | wOlfLinG | Its gonna be added :) |
| 23:26.40 | wOlfLinG | Although it is very loosely based |
| 23:26.52 | wOlfLinG | Its mainly called that due to the time field :D |
| 23:26.57 | depthsofchaos | cool im competing against myself in the ss contest -.- |
| 23:27.27 | slightlyrandom | Hah, I hope you lose |
| 23:27.29 | slightlyrandom | Both of you |
| 23:27.35 | wOlfLinG | Ok, why are button hover images bugged? |
| 23:27.57 | wOlfLinG | I want my dialog to show the unit when hovered over -.- |
| 23:28.17 | depthsofchaos | its buged deal with it!! |
| 23:28.33 | depthsofchaos | actually i dont think its buged |
| 23:29.11 | wOlfLinG | Well, my portraits appear wierdly no matter what the size |
| 23:29.28 | depthsofchaos | did you set it to the same size as the portrait? |
| 23:29.42 | wOlfLinG | yup |
| 23:29.56 | depthsofchaos | them make it biger |
| 23:29.59 | depthsofchaos | then |
| 23:30.20 | wOlfLinG | I did |
| 23:30.29 | wOlfLinG | And it was still the same |
| 23:30.42 | wOlfLinG | Also, is it possible to make an image a button? |
| 23:30.45 | depthsofchaos | weird i remember it worked for me |
| 23:30.57 | depthsofchaos | you have to put an image on top of the button |
| 23:31.02 | P_R_Deltoid | What he said |
| 23:31.07 | P_R_Deltoid | unfortunately you cannot |
| 23:35.12 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/galaxy-editor/file/preferences/ by johnm115 |
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| 23:46.39 | Triceron | anyone know enough max to know if you can turn off Envelopes for Skin modifier in max? |
| 23:48.02 | onetwo | wait arent you a max expert |
| 23:51.51 | ProzaicMuze | he's maya I believe |
| 23:51.58 | P_R_Deltoid | so no one knows how to outline a unit? |
| 23:52.52 | onetwo | P_R_Deltoid |
| 23:52.54 | onetwo | in actor events |
| 23:52.58 | onetwo | when the actor is created |
| 23:53.01 | onetwo | you can set a halo |
| 23:53.02 | onetwo | or glow |
| 23:53.05 | onetwo | around the unit |
| 23:53.07 | onetwo | which might do what you want |
| 23:53.17 | onetwo | but i forget how adept you are and if what i just said was too complex |
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| 23:53.33 | P_R_Deltoid | Thanks |
| 23:53.36 | P_R_Deltoid | I should be able to figure it out |
| 23:54.32 | P_R_Deltoid | oh woops |
| 23:55.39 | onetwo | Actor Events+ |
| 23:55.44 | onetwo | right click add new event |
| 23:55.46 | onetwo | event of actor creation |
| 23:55.53 | onetwo | rest of event fields are None |
| 23:55.56 | onetwo | then make the action |
| 23:55.58 | onetwo | be set glow |
| 23:55.59 | onetwo | or set halo |
| 23:56.00 | onetwo | or w/e it is |
| 23:56.17 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vFYYQhf8jg&feature=fvhl |
| 23:56.19 | onetwo | omg so sexy |
| 23:56.20 | onetwo | haha |
| 23:56.26 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.51 | wOlfLinG | How would i make the camera always follow a certain unit at a certain range? |
| 23:57.21 | Triceron | ARGH I hate you 3DS Max! |
| 23:58.09 | P_R_Deltoid | Found it! |
| 23:58.11 | P_R_Deltoid | HaloStart |
| 23:58.12 | P_R_Deltoid | I think |
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