| 00:00.06 | Triceron | animated textures I don't think are yet |
| 00:00.06 | Helral | then I can throw them in ;p |
| 00:00.08 | RodOfNOD | u mean a model? |
| 00:00.10 | heysparky | I woulnd't really care if they opened and closed |
| 00:00.18 | heysparky | if they just looked different from the wall chunks |
| 00:00.24 | onetwo | too many peopel talking i cant keep up |
| 00:00.25 | Helral | or is there already a door model? |
| 00:00.25 | onetwo | damn |
| 00:00.34 | heysparky | so I didn;'t have to run the maze while colliding wiht the wall |
| 00:00.35 | RodOfNOD | hey Triceron |
| 00:00.37 | Alpha_vst | they have a door doodad Helral |
| 00:00.39 | casperb | Helral: there's space doors |
| 00:00.41 | Triceron | I don't think you can key visibility yet either |
| 00:00.43 | heysparky | so I didn't miss the doors |
| 00:00.45 | Helral | space doors are ugly. |
| 00:00.49 | Triceron | hey Rod |
| 00:00.49 | Helral | I want wooden doors. |
| 00:00.55 | heysparky | use the cube model for the time being |
| 00:00.56 | onetwo | hey Triceron |
| 00:01.02 | heysparky | anything |
| 00:01.03 | casperb | model one -.- |
| 00:01.10 | Triceron | hey onetwo |
| 00:01.13 | Helral | I don't have 3dsmax. |
| 00:01.18 | Alpha_vst | download it |
| 00:01.23 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 00:01.23 | Helral | else I'd have learned to model. |
| 00:01.24 | onetwo | [17:00] <Helral> I want wooden doors. <- You sound like some overly bitchy interior decorator boss |
| 00:01.27 | onetwo | haha |
| 00:01.29 | casperb | Helral: meh gimme a summary of what you want |
| 00:01.32 | RodOfNOD | 3dsmax a major pain in my past ass |
| 00:01.34 | Helral | too much of a hassle, and usually not virus-free. |
| 00:01.47 | Alpha_vst | how is it not |
| 00:01.53 | Alpha_vst | you go to the website |
| 00:01.57 | Alpha_vst | download trial |
| 00:02.00 | Alpha_vst | install |
| 00:02.11 | Helral | see too much of a hassle. |
| 00:02.11 | casperb | Helral: just a wooden door, cliff height? |
| 00:02.12 | RodOfNOD | and after 30 days |
| 00:02.16 | Helral | yeah. |
| 00:02.18 | RodOfNOD | BOOM |
| 00:02.18 | heysparky | http://www.littlemetalmen.net/files/dungeon_door.jpg |
| 00:02.26 | heysparky | yeah, Helral? |
| 00:02.27 | onetwo | what is that an image |
| 00:02.28 | onetwo | or a model |
| 00:02.35 | heysparky | both |
| 00:02.36 | heysparky | well |
| 00:02.37 | Helral | yeah like that would be funny to have ;p |
| 00:02.39 | heysparky | an image of a model |
| 00:02.39 | onetwo | whoa |
| 00:02.42 | onetwo | k |
| 00:02.54 | onetwo | someone should just use super high res |
| 00:02.54 | onetwo | models |
| 00:03.00 | onetwo | and play in 3D |
| 00:03.08 | Helral | if skizot was here he could generate one for me in 15 mins.... |
| 00:03.14 | RodOfNOD | isnt there any doors in the editor already? |
| 00:03.19 | onetwo | dont think so? |
| 00:03.21 | onetwo | not moving atleast |
| 00:03.24 | RodOfNOD | boy i cant type today |
| 00:03.28 | RodOfNOD | that was horrid english |
| 00:03.36 | casperb | Space Platform Door, it has morphs |
| 00:03.37 | RodOfNOD | cant u just rotate it? |
| 00:03.41 | onetwo | ive seen worse |
| 00:03.42 | heysparky | there's tiny glass door |
| 00:03.45 | onetwo | *smokes cigar* |
| 00:03.46 | Triceron | yeah where is that slacker |
| 00:03.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster ctccromer (44699905@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.105.153.5) |
| 00:03.51 | Triceron | he hasn't been around in ages |
| 00:04.01 | RodOfNOD | i think his honey keeping him buzy |
| 00:04.13 | heysparky | he left after the beta closed |
| 00:04.14 | onetwo | ah good oen |
| 00:04.15 | onetwo | one* |
| 00:04.18 | onetwo | honey+buzy |
| 00:04.25 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 00:04.27 | onetwo | you know heysparky |
| 00:04.30 | onetwo | a lot of people disappeared |
| 00:04.31 | onetwo | remember Reactorex |
| 00:04.32 | heysparky | yup |
| 00:04.36 | heysparky | Lyrrad |
| 00:04.38 | onetwo | he was my bud |
| 00:04.41 | heysparky | ShadowTiger |
| 00:04.41 | onetwo | now hes just dead |
| 00:04.43 | onetwo | yeah |
| 00:04.51 | heysparky | one of two things |
| 00:04.53 | heysparky | beta gone |
| 00:04.55 | ctccromer | finally an actual issue (never bothered me before) when i'm testing my map, it starts in fullscreen mode, and when i change it to windowed in settings, it plain just doesnt work |
| 00:04.57 | heysparky | school over |
| 00:05.20 | heysparky | ctccromer, there's a setting for that |
| 00:05.26 | heysparky | lemme find it |
| 00:05.34 | Helral | file --> preferences --> Test Document --> Run Game In A Window |
| 00:05.39 | Helral | in the sc2editor. |
| 00:05.41 | heysparky | or that |
| 00:06.07 | RodOfNOD | i knew this guy once his name was crydgod for 3 years we modded together all the time online i would talk to himn every day then one day he asked me what to do about his gf. She was complaining that all his time was spent on the comp. i said well if you love her and u want to get married it might be decision time. the next day he said his goodbyes and i saw him maybe 2 times after that on irc.... amazing but true |
| 00:06.23 | ctccromer | thanks ^^ |
| 00:06.42 | ctccromer | now to wait for help on the door thing.. and figure out why my DS just turned itself on (again) .. |
| 00:06.44 | Helral | scary how RL claims victims. |
| 00:06.52 | RodOfNOD | i knowwww it sucks |
| 00:07.19 | casperb | But.. internet == real life..? |
| 00:07.24 | casperb | Am i not real? o.o |
| 00:07.35 | Helral | no you're a figment of my imagination. |
| 00:07.41 | casperb | i am? o.o |
| 00:07.49 | Helral | as is eveything that I see, read, hear, taste. |
| 00:07.51 | casperb | you have some twisted imagination sir! |
| 00:08.10 | RodOfNOD | k i picked run game in window and it still doesnt run in window |
| 00:08.17 | Helral | you'll stop being there when you log off, and next time you log on you're there again ;p |
| 00:08.32 | casperb | Helral: meh that's just b/c of the same timezone -.- |
| 00:08.43 | heysparky | Helral, while you're gone, can you make me independently wealthy? |
| 00:08.44 | RodOfNOD | trust me u are all a fig in my imag cuz there is no way i am not real :P |
| 00:08.51 | Helral | lol |
| 00:08.57 | heysparky | or you Rod |
| 00:09.05 | RodOfNOD | sure ill get on that |
| 00:09.07 | ctccromer | rodofnod, it works for me |
| 00:09.09 | heysparky | I don't care whose consciousness renders it |
| 00:09.11 | onetwo | lol Rod good story |
| 00:09.14 | Helral | sparky, I could, but you would not notice it.... |
| 00:09.21 | heysparky | what |
| 00:09.27 | onetwo | 5 years later in divorce |
| 00:09.29 | onetwo | he'll be back to modding |
| 00:09.42 | Helral | since It would alter the reality of my imagination and you would not be in this IRC channel atm talking with us. |
| 00:09.46 | heysparky | that's what friends are for onetwo |
| 00:09.47 | onetwo | :D |
| 00:10.01 | RodOfNOD | ctccromer aha ha! i had the game already running i quit THEN retest and voila it works |
| 00:10.06 | heysparky | so as long as I stay in IRC, I'll be independently wealthy... hmmmm |
| 00:10.12 | ctccromer | lol xD nice |
| 00:10.16 | Helral | ;p |
| 00:10.19 | onetwo | all the manslaves you want |
| 00:10.20 | onetwo | forever |
| 00:10.21 | RodOfNOD | onetwo lol maybe |
| 00:10.22 | onetwo | :D |
| 00:10.37 | RodOfNOD | i really didnt expect someone that was modding EVERY day to just stop |
| 00:10.39 | RodOfNOD | but he did |
| 00:10.42 | RodOfNOD | cold turkey |
| 00:10.44 | Triceron | moral of the story |
| 00:10.46 | onetwo | it wont last |
| 00:10.48 | Triceron | women are ruining the internet |
| 00:10.54 | heysparky | ahem |
| 00:10.55 | ctccromer | hm.. when i make the video of my demo tomorrow or the next day, should i post it on the forums? It's not really for sc2 people, but i know i bugged yall a lot, so idk :P |
| 00:11.02 | onetwo | heysparky is leading the rebellion |
| 00:11.03 | onetwo | so props |
| 00:11.07 | heysparky | lol |
| 00:11.12 | casperb | o.o |
| 00:11.23 | RodOfNOD | lol Triceron |
| 00:11.34 | casperb | The one whom the prophecy speaks of...! 0.0 |
| 00:11.41 | Alpha_vst | my optimzation is working :D |
| 00:11.51 | RodOfNOD | Triceron without woman on the net as in PICS on the nt there wouldnt be a reason for most guys to be online hehe |
| 00:12.02 | casperb | premature optimization is the root of all evil Alpha_vst :P |
| 00:12.10 | RodOfNOD | lol casperb |
| 00:12.20 | Alpha_vst | yes i know |
| 00:12.26 | RodOfNOD | just write it optimized in the first place then ur good to go |
| 00:12.27 | onetwo | alpha's used to doing things prematurely though |
| 00:12.29 | onetwo | ZINNNNNNNNNNNNG |
| 00:12.29 | RodOfNOD | thas what i do hehe |
| 00:12.31 | onetwo | thanks guys |
| 00:12.34 | onetwo | heads off stage again |
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| 00:13.18 | Triceron | encore! encore! |
| 00:13.29 | onetwo | comes back |
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| 00:13.47 | casperb | Get yer popcorn here, Popcorn popcorn! |
| 00:14.04 | onetwo | im out of material :( |
| 00:14.18 | onetwo | wait i got one |
| 00:14.23 | onetwo | sc2mapster? more like sc2crapster |
| 00:14.25 | onetwo | k im done now |
| 00:14.38 | RodOfNOD | wow theres a debugger?? wow |
| 00:14.45 | RodOfNOD | almost like a real programming language |
| 00:14.49 | onetwo | the NOD's been controlling you for too long rod |
| 00:14.54 | onetwo | you need to free yourself |
| 00:14.56 | RodOfNOD | the NOD Is good |
| 00:14.56 | onetwo | and see the editor |
| 00:14.59 | onetwo | for what it really is |
| 00:15.00 | casperb | RodOfNOD: it is a real language :p |
| 00:15.08 | RodOfNOD | im so making cnc tiberium dawn btw |
| 00:15.24 | RodOfNOD | got 4 projects if i can just get my brain in gear |
| 00:15.26 | Triceron | how was cnc 4 btw? |
| 00:15.29 | Triceron | it sorta came out |
| 00:15.29 | RodOfNOD | tiberian |
| 00:15.34 | RodOfNOD | idk |
| 00:15.34 | Triceron | and dropped off the face of the planet |
| 00:15.36 | RodOfNOD | i gave up |
| 00:15.43 | RodOfNOD | i tried on cnc 3 |
| 00:15.45 | RodOfNOD | and gagged |
| 00:15.50 | RodOfNOD | too hard to see shit |
| 00:15.52 | RodOfNOD | too dark |
| 00:15.57 | Triceron | I was interested in cnc3's expansions |
| 00:16.02 | casperb | which is the one with space scorpions and pandas? |
| 00:16.10 | Triceron | red alert 3 |
| 00:16.13 | Triceron | wait |
| 00:16.19 | Triceron | space scorpions.. cnc 3 |
| 00:16.30 | casperb | yeah some freaky art design |
| 00:16.33 | Triceron | red alert 3 had the armored bears |
| 00:16.40 | RodOfNOD | with wc3 i could do almost anything i wanted to |
| 00:16.40 | Triceron | ARMORED BEARS |
| 00:16.41 | casperb | cool concept etc but just really weird for c&c |
| 00:16.46 | RodOfNOD | and now with sc2 its just even better |
| 00:16.48 | Triceron | I liked the concept of RA3 |
| 00:16.49 | onetwo | yeah agreed about cnc 3 |
| 00:16.52 | onetwo | that was the last for me |
| 00:16.56 | Triceron | but the look and feel of the game was just messed up |
| 00:17.05 | RodOfNOD | westwood so pissed me off |
| 00:17.10 | onetwo | lol Rod you make your CNC tiberian dawn map and then the next day it dies off the list |
| 00:17.12 | onetwo | mysteriously |
| 00:17.20 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:17.27 | Triceron | cnc3 wasn't westwood was it? |
| 00:17.30 | RodOfNOD | no |
| 00:17.36 | RodOfNOD | nothing westwood since red alert |
| 00:17.37 | Triceron | their last game was like |
| 00:17.47 | RodOfNOD | damn ea |
| 00:17.50 | Triceron | generals? or before that? |
| 00:17.51 | RodOfNOD | DAMN U TO HELL |
| 00:17.53 | RodOfNOD | before |
| 00:17.55 | onetwo | haha generals |
| 00:17.55 | RodOfNOD | way before |
| 00:17.56 | onetwo | good memories |
| 00:17.59 | RodOfNOD | gag |
| 00:18.00 | RodOfNOD | ga |
| 00:18.01 | RodOfNOD | gag |
| 00:18.08 | onetwo | CNC Generals: the game you always pronounce as genetals |
| 00:18.12 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:18.14 | Triceron | I liked the ideas of subfactions |
| 00:18.33 | Triceron | play as the Scrote |
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| 00:18.38 | RodOfNOD | holy shit this debugger is pretty cool |
| 00:18.39 | RedWraith | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 00:18.40 | purl | tehwildcard <~Jer@pool-71-122-122-129.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 10d 5h 1m 15s ago, saying: 'You cant place it'. |
| 00:18.44 | RedWraith | debugger? |
| 00:18.47 | Triceron | the Nad |
| 00:18.49 | RodOfNOD | yes debugger |
| 00:18.53 | RodOfNOD | i just found it |
| 00:19.14 | RedWraith | There are no debuggers! |
| 00:19.21 | RodOfNOD | yes there are lol |
| 00:19.24 | onetwo | i think a lot of games and game companies are becoming too big/corporate and unlike movies it doesnt work well that way. You definitely need a passionate powerhouse behind the scenes like blizz obviously has and I believe valve has it too |
| 00:19.24 | Alpha_vst | its question.... |
| 00:19.27 | RodOfNOD | trigger debugger |
| 00:19.29 | onetwo | even Apple has steve jobs |
| 00:19.31 | RodOfNOD | looks helpful |
| 00:19.40 | RedWraith | Also, why would you need a debugger? That implies you don't understand how your code works. :O |
| 00:19.48 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:19.51 | Triceron | if you're talking PC, PC is mostly dead |
| 00:19.58 | Alpha_vst | on my trigger debuger under activity its not showing anything any more is that good or bad? |
| 00:19.59 | onetwo | all of the blizzard company-breakoffs failed |
| 00:20.00 | onetwo | imo |
| 00:20.02 | Triceron | there's like.. Valve and Blizz |
| 00:20.05 | RodOfNOD | you might be right there RedWraith but thats what i need |
| 00:20.14 | rrowland | torchlight's lookin good |
| 00:20.17 | RedWraith | Sadface. |
| 00:20.17 | Helral | I need debuggers cause the blizzard code is so crappy ;p |
| 00:20.17 | onetwo | the sad thing though is that every pc gamer knows its a higher level than console gaming |
| 00:20.21 | onetwo | but pc gaming is falling down |
| 00:20.22 | Triceron | and then there's console companies who still hang on to a niche pc market |
| 00:20.22 | onetwo | as you say |
| 00:20.28 | Triceron | and then the casual pc devs |
| 00:20.37 | rrowland | consoles are the devil |
| 00:20.50 | onetwo | whether or not you guys like WoW, it is doing a good thing |
| 00:20.53 | onetwo | for PC games |
| 00:20.55 | Triceron | it's a higher level |
| 00:21.02 | Triceron | but the problem is pc gamers play ONE game |
| 00:21.03 | RodOfNOD | man this debugger seriously should be on the front page of sc2mapster its huge for coders |
| 00:21.03 | casperb | onetwo: raping them in the face? |
| 00:21.06 | Triceron | and stick to it for a long time |
| 00:21.11 | casperb | onetwo: destroying storytelling forever? |
| 00:21.14 | Triceron | and are too jaded to go episodic |
| 00:21.23 | onetwo | without blizz/valve |
| 00:21.24 | Triceron | console gamers will fork the $60 for a ten hour game |
| 00:21.27 | onetwo | i wouldnt be on my computer atm |
| 00:21.40 | RodOfNOD | true onetwo |
| 00:21.42 | Triceron | and there's a whole resale market for console |
| 00:21.46 | rrowland | So what you're saying is console gamers are stupid |
| 00:21.46 | rrowland | :) |
| 00:21.48 | RodOfNOD | without sc and wc3 i would have a different life |
| 00:21.51 | onetwo | theyre unaware |
| 00:21.51 | RedWraith | Computer gamers fork out 1200$ for a new computer every three years. |
| 00:21.54 | Triceron | jaded, not stupid |
| 00:21.58 | Alpha_vst | the resale market is getting killed |
| 00:21.58 | RedWraith | I shouldn't have to pay 60$ for a ten hour game. |
| 00:22.17 | rrowland | Red, console gamers would fork out the same amount every 3 years to get the 3 next gen consoles |
| 00:22.19 | Triceron | you don't have to |
| 00:22.19 | rrowland | What's your point? |
| 00:22.24 | Triceron | and that's why the pc market is dying :P |
| 00:22.25 | RodOfNOD | if you only play 10 hours total then i agree |
| 00:22.30 | RodOfNOD | but most people play over and over |
| 00:22.30 | onetwo | $10 for a 2 hour movie... $60 for sc2 is amazing imo |
| 00:22.32 | Helral | hmmm I bought one of those puzzle games for the DS one time.... it took me 3 hours to finish all the puzzles... |
| 00:22.37 | casperb | wait a month and it's 30 usd |
| 00:22.43 | Triceron | was it $60? |
| 00:22.50 | RedWraith | Helral, pokemon snap pissed me off. |
| 00:22.53 | Helral | it was uhm... 15 orso. |
| 00:22.55 | onetwo | HAHAHHAHAHAHAH |
| 00:22.57 | onetwo | pokemon snap |
| 00:22.57 | onetwo | ah |
| 00:23.00 | heysparky | I've got news for you - PC gaming has been dying for, like, 20 years |
| 00:23.00 | Triceron | LOL dude |
| 00:23.05 | Triceron | I went to my cousin's place today |
| 00:23.07 | heysparky | ESPECIALLY RTS |
| 00:23.07 | Triceron | he's like 18 |
| 00:23.12 | Triceron | and he was playing Pokemon Snap |
| 00:23.14 | rrowland | PC gaming will never die |
| 00:23.15 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 00:23.18 | Triceron | cuz his computer was broken down |
| 00:23.20 | rrowland | PC >>> consoles |
| 00:23.24 | onetwo | i agree |
| 00:23.27 | RodOfNOD | u cant play RTS on a damn console so |
| 00:23.28 | onetwo | and i think itll all merge eventually |
| 00:23.35 | heysparky | the two won't be so different in the future |
| 00:23.39 | rrowland | How the hell do you play FPS with those stupid little thumb sticks |
| 00:23.42 | heysparky | I disagree Rod, but it's a different type of RTS |
| 00:23.44 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 00:23.48 | Triceron | we'll be playing without controllers |
| 00:23.55 | onetwo | i played FPS on an XBOX and was like wtf... id rather just do this on my computer and headshot |
| 00:23.59 | rrowland | mouse and WASD gtw |
| 00:23.59 | RodOfNOD | u cant select lots of units with a console so u cant play rts |
| 00:24.01 | heysparky | the future is here Triceron! |
| 00:24.01 | rrowland | ftw* |
| 00:24.02 | Triceron | and I don't mean cuz we're waving our hands |
| 00:24.03 | onetwo | instead of not even being able to hit someone |
| 00:24.11 | Triceron | matrix style brain jacks! |
| 00:24.18 | onetwo | that wont succeed |
| 00:24.22 | rrowland | Yeah the little thumbsticks take out the twitchy skill |
| 00:24.28 | Triceron | jam a cord into your brain |
| 00:24.32 | onetwo | any improvements on computers/gaming have to be better than what is here now |
| 00:24.37 | Triceron | and press z to make your wishes come true |
| 00:24.45 | RodOfNOD | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 00:24.46 | heysparky | thumbsticks take out the twitchy skill, that's bs |
| 00:24.52 | onetwo | right now you can turn on your computer and do something else WHILE using it |
| 00:24.52 | rrowland | They do |
| 00:24.56 | onetwo | jacking in wouldnt make sense |
| 00:25.01 | rrowland | You can whip your mouse and boom headshot |
| 00:25.02 | heysparky | they take out the speed |
| 00:25.03 | onetwo | jacking off on the the other hand... well thats for another day |
| 00:25.05 | rrowland | Under 100ms |
| 00:25.10 | rrowland | Yeah that's called twitchy |
| 00:25.10 | rrowland | lol |
| 00:25.14 | heysparky | but it takes a lot of hand-eye to use them well |
| 00:25.22 | Helral | console games are to restrictive, they don't give me enough buttons to use ;p |
| 00:25.24 | Triceron | or you could pay a midget |
| 00:25.25 | rrowland | I hold down the thumb stick |
| 00:25.25 | heysparky | bah, disagree |
| 00:25.33 | rrowland | 5 seconds later I'm aiming where they were 5 seconds ago |
| 00:25.33 | heysparky | console games are all about twitch |
| 00:25.36 | rrowland | Since I have to wait |
| 00:26.16 | rrowland | It's like if you had to scroll your screen in SC2 |
| 00:26.16 | RodOfNOD | u know what would be "interesting" a game where u were a real general and had real underlings that handled parts of a war and you could control only the parts you could control in RL |
| 00:26.22 | rrowland | Instead of being able to hotkey or click the minimap |
| 00:26.25 | rrowland | It doesn't work |
| 00:26.27 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:26.30 | heysparky | it takes a lot of fine motor skill to use a thumbstick well, like for a racing game |
| 00:26.43 | RodOfNOD | so the game would be a RPG first person game for the privates |
| 00:26.48 | rrowland | lol Racing games are the antiskill |
| 00:26.52 | heysparky | that game exists, Rod |
| 00:26.55 | RodOfNOD | and a third person for the platoon controllers |
| 00:27.00 | RodOfNOD | and thenb a rts for the others |
| 00:27.02 | heysparky | uhm... lemme find it |
| 00:27.03 | RodOfNOD | what is that? |
| 00:27.07 | rrowland | Yeah that's called savage 2 |
| 00:27.29 | rrowland | Made by s2 games |
| 00:27.56 | heysparky | there ya go |
| 00:27.58 | heysparky | Savage 2 |
| 00:28.11 | heysparky | racing games are anti skill? |
| 00:28.18 | heysparky | wow, we can be done with this conversation |
| 00:28.20 | heysparky | :) |
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| 00:28.26 | rrowland | Yeah kinda like nascar is anti intelligence |
| 00:28.27 | rrowland | :) |
| 00:28.34 | Helral | we haven't come to the best bit yet. ;p |
| 00:28.44 | heysparky | ah, rrowland wiht the hot sports opinions |
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| 00:29.14 | Helral | and now it's time to mention the best management Strategy game yet: Dungeon Keeper ;p |
| 00:29.26 | RodOfNOD | looks pretty good heysparky |
| 00:29.27 | rrowland | Well my hot sports opinion is they all suck |
| 00:29.29 | heysparky | bah, Dwarf Fortress |
| 00:29.41 | onetwo | im the best |
| 00:29.44 | heysparky | best sim-strategy game |
| 00:30.02 | Helral | Dorf Fortress? |
| 00:30.02 | rrowland | But of all of them, driving around in a circle 500 times sounds the least appealing :P |
| 00:30.02 | heysparky | well, then, Rod, check it out :D |
| 00:30.27 | heysparky | appealing and skill aren't joined at the hip |
| 00:30.34 | heysparky | DWARF FORTRES |
| 00:30.37 | heysparky | SSSS |
| 00:30.38 | onetwo | conjoined twins are though |
| 00:31.08 | rrowland | Left... Left.... Left.... Turn Left... another left... |
| 00:31.09 | rrowland | lol |
| 00:31.11 | Helral | roflol. |
| 00:31.18 | Helral | it's an ascii game :D |
| 00:31.24 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:31.25 | heysparky | yes |
| 00:31.25 | heysparky | it's brilliant |
| 00:31.28 | onetwo | well thats why mario kart succeeded |
| 00:31.30 | heysparky | BRILLIANT |
| 00:31.33 | onetwo | cause it has multiplayer fun, items |
| 00:31.34 | onetwo | and so on |
| 00:31.46 | onetwo | the realistic ones are a bit boring imo |
| 00:32.45 | heysparky | if you want to lose a weekend (and you can handle no graphics, though there are some 'tilesets' ) play Dwarf Fortress |
| 00:33.06 | heysparky | also, you must have a high-to-godly level of tolerance for impenetrable UIs |
| 00:33.12 | RedWraith | so, I want to incorperate a vote now - choices activate later kinda system where players can vote and then change their vote until a pre-determined time when a player is chosen and his voted is used to choose the mode. |
| 00:33.13 | RodOfNOD | have u played this game heysparky? |
| 00:33.17 | RedWraith | I've already made the system, in fact. |
| 00:33.17 | heysparky | those of you who have braved the data editor are well prepared |
| 00:33.23 | RedWraith | I just don't know a good place to put the button |
| 00:33.33 | RedWraith | since my two camera option buttons are directly above the minimap |
| 00:33.38 | RedWraith | and it's starting to take up space |
| 00:33.41 | RedWraith | with three there |
| 00:33.41 | RedWraith | ;* |
| 00:33.43 | RedWraith | :( |
| 00:33.45 | onetwo | what |
| 00:33.50 | RodOfNOD | screen pic what u have so far |
| 00:34.08 | heysparky | which, Rod, Savage 2? no, had some friends whose opinions I trust proclaim its awesomeness |
| 00:34.21 | Helral | hmmmm *goes to look for his dosbox application* |
| 00:34.25 | heysparky | it should be noted that these same friends love Dwarf Fortress as well |
| 00:34.28 | heysparky | you've been warned |
| 00:34.35 | RodOfNOD | i looks pretty hardcore alright |
| 00:34.47 | heysparky | I recommend naming your dwarves after your friends |
| 00:34.50 | rrowland | I tried savage 2 very early on |
| 00:35.00 | rrowland | I liked the concept but I didn't like the execution |
| 00:35.00 | RodOfNOD | and? |
| 00:35.04 | rrowland | It might have changed since then |
| 00:35.46 | RodOfNOD | that doesnt appear to be exactly what i was suggesting though |
| 00:36.00 | RodOfNOD | i was envisioning a real army |
| 00:36.14 | RodOfNOD | you start as a private and maybe u never do anything but be a private |
| 00:36.32 | RodOfNOD | u get killed you are out of that battle |
| 00:36.58 | RodOfNOD | its kinda what i envsioned for sc2 |
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| 00:37.07 | Helral | heysparky: hmmm it's more advanced then dosbox O.o |
| 00:37.10 | RodOfNOD | bnet 2.0 would be wow like in the channels |
| 00:37.18 | RodOfNOD | but sc flavor of course |
| 00:37.27 | Triceron | note to self - don't smooth a 500,000 poly object before saving |
| 00:37.31 | RodOfNOD | and then u go into games and u are the general controlling the game |
| 00:37.35 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:38.04 | Alpha_vst | that would be the sc mmo |
| 00:38.17 | Alpha_vst | which isnt being made :P |
| 00:38.25 | RodOfNOD | no because |
| 00:38.31 | RodOfNOD | the mmo part i wanted wouldnt entail fighting |
| 00:38.36 | RodOfNOD | it would be the social structure |
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| 00:38.42 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 00:38.49 | RodOfNOD | so u would have avatars that moved around like wow |
| 00:39.07 | RodOfNOD | and you would gain things like rooms etc based on ur general perfornace |
| 00:39.15 | heysparky | it's a very sophisticated sim, Helral |
| 00:39.53 | Helral | Starting to play right now ;p |
| 00:40.15 | heysparky | the problem with that game Rod, is that everyone eventually gets to the endgame |
| 00:40.20 | heysparky | then the world is full of generals |
| 00:40.44 | onetwo | seems to be a bug with copy pasting in item containers |
| 00:40.47 | onetwo | the item classes it can use |
| 00:40.48 | onetwo | :( |
| 00:40.52 | RodOfNOD | not true sparky |
| 00:41.02 | heysparky | and if there were a limited number of general seats, then attrition would rot the base population |
| 00:41.07 | RodOfNOD | because u couldnt move up without someone dying enough |
| 00:41.36 | RodOfNOD | there are always problems :> |
| 00:41.38 | heysparky | yes |
| 00:41.42 | RodOfNOD | this savage 2 is scarey |
| 00:41.50 | RodOfNOD | like if i dl it i might not mod scarey |
| 00:42.05 | heysparky | lol |
| 00:42.09 | RodOfNOD | your talking to someone that has played im not kidding 20k games of sc |
| 00:42.16 | RodOfNOD | at least 5k games of risk online |
| 00:42.48 | RodOfNOD | and yet i avoided the wow crap :> |
| 00:44.09 | RodOfNOD | hey did we ever hear why VOIP stopped working in sc2? |
| 00:45.05 | onetwo | they put their voip engineers to make chat channels :D |
| 00:45.51 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 00:45.58 | RodOfNOD | the terran music is so great in sc2 |
| 00:46.54 | Helral | Ubalnòm Onullibash, "Helral Spiritgods the Wayward Axe" |
| 00:46.56 | Helral | ;p |
| 00:49.08 | RodOfNOD | err ok :P |
| 00:49.15 | RodOfNOD | spirit away |
| 00:49.40 | Alpha_vst | i played savage 2 it was really crappy |
| 00:50.39 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-nNchLkej0 < greatest game music of all time!! |
| 00:51.34 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 00:51.45 | RodOfNOD | yes! |
| 00:52.00 | Alpha_vst | sorry |
| 00:52.13 | Alpha_vst | i would rather listen to the spice girls |
| 00:52.17 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:52.34 | heysparky | lol, broke my browowser |
| 00:52.39 | RodOfNOD | ah but in 1995 that was the bleading edge |
| 00:52.45 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 00:52.47 | Alpha_vst | it wasnt |
| 00:53.09 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 00:53.16 | RodOfNOD | how old are u? |
| 00:53.23 | heysparky | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAV3bY66aL4 |
| 00:53.47 | Alpha_vst | me 27 |
| 00:54.09 | RodOfNOD | so u were 12 in 1995 |
| 00:56.36 | heysparky | not sure that's relevant, Rod |
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| 00:59.59 | RodOfNOD | man its fun looking at replays of the old game on youtube |
| 01:00.36 | onetwo | i wonder how rich mike morhaime and christ metzen are |
| 01:00.39 | onetwo | chris* |
| 01:00.53 | onetwo | game developers never seem to look rich |
| 01:00.58 | onetwo | but shouldnt they be huge millionaires? |
| 01:01.02 | heysparky | some are |
| 01:01.07 | heysparky | oh man |
| 01:01.18 | heysparky | those two are bound to be ridiculously wealthy |
| 01:01.28 | heysparky | all the blizz royalty |
| 01:01.46 | onetwo | hah yeah |
| 01:02.00 | onetwo | the guy who came up with diablo formula |
| 01:02.01 | onetwo | is genius |
| 01:02.12 | onetwo | that basically was the stepping stone for WoW and all other RPG based games |
| 01:03.59 | RodOfNOD | funny looking at the old game cnc no minimap no unit console all controls on the right funny |
| 01:04.02 | Alpha_vst | diablo formula? |
| 01:07.18 | onetwo | the modern rpg :D |
| 01:16.26 | heysparky | you mean gear stats? |
| 01:16.32 | onetwo | everything |
| 01:16.35 | onetwo | experience system |
| 01:16.35 | onetwo | stats |
| 01:16.36 | onetwo | items |
| 01:16.37 | onetwo | unique items |
| 01:16.43 | onetwo | d2 had the best unique item look imo |
| 01:16.48 | onetwo | the gold text |
| 01:16.50 | onetwo | mmm |
| 01:17.07 | onetwo | sets |
| 01:17.07 | onetwo | gem |
| 01:17.08 | onetwo | s |
| 01:17.12 | onetwo | etc |
| 01:17.17 | heysparky | I'm not sure they invented that, but, like many things they've done, they did it better than just about anybody |
| 01:17.36 | onetwo | thats what i mean |
| 01:17.38 | heysparky | ugh... that gem sound... 'ding' still makes me go 'oh! what?! where where! |
| 01:17.42 | onetwo | if they didnt do that |
| 01:17.42 | onetwo | haha |
| 01:17.49 | onetwo | then all subsequent rpgs would suck |
| 01:17.54 | heysparky | lol |
| 01:18.03 | heysparky | unsubstatiatable bold statement |
| 01:18.10 | onetwo | its true |
| 01:18.10 | heysparky | but, I getcha |
| 01:18.12 | onetwo | lol |
| 01:18.34 | onetwo | now i dont know who came up with items and experience and stats |
| 01:18.36 | onetwo | and all that |
| 01:18.37 | onetwo | to begin with |
| 01:18.43 | onetwo | perhaps certain crappy games had 1 or 2 aspects |
| 01:18.46 | onetwo | that diablo combined |
| 01:19.36 | heysparky | wargames, and they've been around for ages and ages |
| 01:19.53 | heysparky | dorky table-top napoleonic wargames |
| 01:20.05 | heysparky | :) |
| 01:20.08 | onetwo | true |
| 01:20.23 | Helral | me thinks me bugged Dorf Fortress.... |
| 01:20.35 | onetwo | hey if i have an ability that does a damage effect of lets say 5 melee damage |
| 01:20.43 | Helral | game thinks I'm in water while I'm on land... |
| 01:20.49 | onetwo | but my guy has an item that gives a behavior that adds 1 to damage |
| 01:20.58 | onetwo | would the damage effect then do 6? |
| 01:21.16 | Helral | I would suspect so. |
| 01:21.18 | onetwo | k |
| 01:21.19 | onetwo | interesting |
| 01:21.30 | Helral | if it was a dmg effect (like weapon) |
| 01:21.34 | onetwo | yep |
| 01:21.44 | heysparky | not sure what you're seeing Helral, so can't help you troubleshoot |
| 01:22.12 | Helral | might go play with it again another time. ;p |
| 01:22.19 | Helral | I figured out the keys now ;p |
| 01:23.21 | Helral | think I'll head to bed ;p |
| 01:23.24 | Helral | nn all |
| 01:23.46 | Helral|asleep | [03:23] <--- hmmm it's already that late O.o |
| 01:23.52 | onetwo | 18:23 |
| 01:23.53 | onetwo | :D |
| 01:24.01 | onetwo | +9 hours |
| 01:24.04 | onetwo | =helral |
| 01:24.46 | Alpha_vst | lol |
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| 01:27.40 | heysparky | gnight helral |
| 01:28.06 | heysparky | same timezone onetwo |
| 01:29.46 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:30.00 | heysparky | okay... I have two remaining data bugs to work out and then I hvae no more reasons to hide from triggers |
| 01:30.11 | dr_evil | bnet is up |
| 01:31.17 | Alpha_vst | fuck you go away |
| 01:31.33 | dr_evil | :D |
| 01:31.47 | Alpha_vst | why would i trust anyone who's name is dr_evil |
| 01:32.07 | slightlyrandom | Triggers are lovely |
| 01:32.15 | heysparky | they're fine |
| 01:32.17 | slightlyrandom | It's the data stuff that is evul |
| 01:32.27 | heysparky | but I'm gonna be creating AI and that's weighty stuff |
| 01:32.32 | slightlyrandom | hah, yeah |
| 01:32.37 | slightlyrandom | Guess you're right |
| 01:32.40 | heysparky | data is like skeet |
| 01:32.50 | heysparky | devious devious skeet |
| 01:32.55 | Alpha_vst | what |
| 01:33.00 | slightlyrandom | Skeet? |
| 01:33.08 | Alpha_vst | is slang for cum.... |
| 01:33.10 | heysparky | you come up with an effect and go, hmmm... can I do that? |
| 01:33.26 | heysparky | and you can/can't |
| 01:33.26 | heysparky | done |
| 01:33.39 | heysparky | like skeet shooting |
| 01:33.43 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:33.51 | onetwo | what about same time zone |
| 01:33.51 | Alpha_vst | heysparky um |
| 01:33.53 | onetwo | thats what i said |
| 01:34.11 | Alpha_vst | use the whole phrase next time :P |
| 01:34.26 | heysparky | I've never heard that interpretation in my life |
| 01:34.38 | Alpha_vst | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=skeet |
| 01:34.44 | heysparky | oh well jesus |
| 01:34.49 | heysparky | urban dictionary? |
| 01:34.58 | heysparky | every freaking word is cum or dick or pussy |
| 01:34.58 | Alpha_vst | it comes from that song.... |
| 01:35.01 | heysparky | please |
| 01:35.20 | heysparky | and onetwo if you re-quote me on that, I'll find you |
| 01:35.53 | RodOfNOD | lol this is hilarious : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFXJaYY0TOs&feature=related not as good as the takeoff on the ipad but still funny |
| 01:36.44 | onetwo | haha that actual movie, i had to watch it for my european film class |
| 01:36.47 | onetwo | and during that scene |
| 01:36.49 | onetwo | i couldnt handle it |
| 01:36.50 | onetwo | too funny |
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| 01:36.54 | onetwo | cause i had all the internet jokes |
| 01:36.56 | onetwo | in my head |
| 01:37.25 | ctccromer | help please? :( http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/4275-need-help-lower-cliffs-via-trigger/#p3 |
| 01:37.40 | ctccromer | it's the very last thing i need to do, then the 1st version of my demo will be done |
| 01:37.41 | Alpha_vst | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSh_Oc78A4o <--- where skeet came from |
| 01:37.47 | heysparky | I'm not sure if you can do that, ct |
| 01:37.58 | ctccromer | if i can't then i NEED a work-around |
| 01:38.33 | Alpha_vst | you cant |
| 01:38.41 | Alpha_vst | work around |
| 01:38.42 | heysparky | show me a word that hasn't been co-opted by some sort of sex slang |
| 01:38.47 | RodOfNOD | lol onetwo |
| 01:39.09 | Alpha_vst | heysparky SEX |
| 01:39.36 | ctccromer | is it possible to allow a unit to move through the cliff (i think that means remove the footprint) in a region?? |
| 01:39.41 | slightlyrandom | Wasn't there a demo video of a guy using a terrain deformation to represent stuff that damaged units ? |
| 01:39.54 | slightlyrandom | Oh, like that |
| 01:40.13 | slightlyrandom | Can't you make a door of sorts? |
| 01:40.14 | onetwo | hey does anyone want to go make some heysparky in the alley later? |
| 01:40.25 | onetwo | ^ latest sex word |
| 01:40.26 | Alpha_vst | anyways ctccromer you will need to make units out of the cliffs then you will need to do triggers for the adjusment of the hegiht on units |
| 01:40.37 | ctccromer | slightlyrandom: i already have doors with pathing blockers, and it uses a different feature of the game |
| 01:40.47 | Alpha_vst | no onetwo 0.o |
| 01:41.04 | onetwo | damn |
| 01:41.05 | ctccromer | alpha_vst: is there a way to make a unit with actor/model that looks like a cliff? O.o |
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| 01:42.20 | heysparky | you're gonna get the old one two, onetwo |
| 01:42.27 | onetwo | haha |
| 01:42.31 | onetwo | is that good or bad |
| 01:42.32 | onetwo | and who from |
| 01:42.41 | heysparky | ohnoes |
| 01:42.46 | heysparky | you don't know what that means? |
| 01:42.57 | onetwo | well i dont know if youre making a new one |
| 01:42.59 | onetwo | out of it |
| 01:43.01 | Alpha_vst | ctccromer: sure create new model referances in teh data editor |
| 01:43.02 | heysparky | lol |
| 01:43.04 | heysparky | no |
| 01:43.04 | Alpha_vst | they should show |
| 01:43.06 | onetwo | damn |
| 01:43.08 | onetwo | i was hoping |
| 01:43.21 | heysparky | conventional idiom |
| 01:43.28 | heysparky | for a punch in the mouth |
| 01:43.28 | ctccromer | Alpha_vst: k, i'll try. Data editor = confusing shit |
| 01:43.31 | Alpha_vst | but ctccromer thats a lot of headache and a lto of math |
| 01:43.35 | onetwo | i wanted it to mean something else :( |
| 01:43.45 | ctccromer | alpha_vst: if it's the only way.. =/ |
| 01:43.52 | Alpha_vst | you will have to redo all of your terrain |
| 01:44.04 | heysparky | onetwo, you can make it mean whatever you want, if that makes you happy |
| 01:44.05 | Alpha_vst | you will have to find some way to make cliff levels |
| 01:44.09 | onetwo | k |
| 01:44.09 | onetwo | done |
| 01:44.10 | Alpha_vst | not worth it |
| 01:44.11 | heysparky | that's sorta the point |
| 01:44.20 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 01:44.33 | ctccromer | alright well thanks |
| 01:44.47 | ctccromer | i'll find a work-around that i dont like (probably a wall-ish doodad and pathing blockers) |
| 01:45.03 | ctccromer | are there any doodads that look like walls at all? not store-fronts |
| 01:45.26 | heysparky | there's an elecrified fence thing |
| 01:45.30 | heysparky | +t |
| 01:45.37 | ctccromer | mmk |
| 01:45.41 | ctccromer | ill relook through em all |
| 01:46.03 | ctccromer | thanks again for everything guys. I'll probly be back tomorrow asking about video/audio programs lol. but anyways, cant thank yall enough |
| 01:46.12 | Alpha_vst | you can use the models for the terrain |
| 01:46.18 | Alpha_vst | oh well |
| 01:46.30 | Alpha_vst | i sent him on a path of evil |
| 01:46.38 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 01:46.58 | slightlyrandom | Its quite easy really, there is a trigger called ChangeHeightOfTerrainInRegion |
| 01:48.00 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 01:48.04 | slightlyrandom | shhh |
| 01:48.12 | Alpha_vst | hes not even here... |
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| 01:48.24 | slightlyrandom | Let me have my fun, damn you |
| 01:48.24 | RodOfNOD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1eFdUSnaQM&feature=fvw - lol the comments are great on this video |
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| 01:51.14 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 01:51.30 | heysparky | later folks |
| 01:51.36 | slightlyrandom | ! |
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| 01:52.31 | Jcup | hey guys |
| 01:54.24 | RodOfNOD | hi |
| 01:54.25 | Alpha_vst | hey sex kittne |
| 01:54.38 | RodOfNOD | smooth real smooth |
| 01:55.55 | Jcup | o.o |
| 01:56.07 | RodOfNOD | J.L |
| 01:56.10 | Jcup | Ima sex kitten? |
| 01:56.11 | Jcup | lol |
| 01:56.44 | Jcup | or is it sex kidney :o |
| 01:57.31 | slightlyrandom | You're a meatbag, full of valuable organs ready for harvest |
| 01:57.51 | Jcup | sex organs according to Alpha |
| 01:57.54 | Jcup | hha |
| 01:58.04 | Jcup | :D |
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| 02:01.37 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sixen * r105 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 02:01.50 | Repo | Cleaned up Settings, added Launch GE button, Fixed the Chat Gem |
| 02:02.24 | onetwo | Sixen! |
| 02:02.25 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:02.53 | Sixen | Sorry |
| 02:02.59 | Sixen | Committed my stuff, just got back |
| 02:03.00 | onetwo | :D |
| 02:03.07 | Sixen | Running out again, i'll take a look at it 12, I promise ":) |
| 02:03.13 | onetwo | kk! |
| 02:04.13 | Alpha_vst | weeee |
| 02:05.25 | Alpha_vst | stage one of my reorganization and optimization is done |
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| 02:07.30 | Alpha_vst | http://i49.tinypic.com/2e2ms76.jpg <---before and after :P |
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| 02:08.24 | onetwo | which side is after |
| 02:08.32 | Alpha_vst | before and after |
| 02:09.01 | Alpha_vst | figure it out |
| 02:09.01 | Alpha_vst | :P |
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| 02:09.52 | onetwo | looks the same |
| 02:09.53 | onetwo | to me |
| 02:09.53 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:10.12 | onetwo | except one has an insanely large list |
| 02:10.13 | onetwo | of vars |
| 02:10.21 | Alpha_vst | those are not variables |
| 02:10.23 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 02:10.31 | onetwo | oops my mistake |
| 02:10.34 | onetwo | action defs |
| 02:10.37 | Alpha_vst | and you dont want to see my list of varaibles |
| 02:10.47 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:11.01 | onetwo | does it waste memory having a bunch of empty variables? |
| 02:11.04 | onetwo | i got quite a few in my rpg |
| 02:11.06 | onetwo | or i mean |
| 02:11.08 | onetwo | waste a lot of memory |
| 02:11.16 | Alpha_vst | no its not doing anything |
| 02:11.21 | Alpha_vst | so its not doing anything |
| 02:11.22 | onetwo | k |
| 02:11.36 | Alpha_vst | i will cut my list together |
| 02:11.39 | Alpha_vst | cause im bored |
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| 02:17.30 | Alpha_vst | http://i48.tinypic.com/v3k4dv.jpg <--- my expanded list 0.o |
| 02:18.27 | Alpha_vst | whole game is run off of 7 triggers woot |
| 02:20.31 | rrowland | That's a lot of variables |
| 02:21.21 | rrowland | And not many presets / records :P |
| 02:21.26 | rrowland | ie 0 |
| 02:21.37 | Alpha_vst | cause i hate records |
| 02:21.41 | Alpha_vst | they dont like me |
| 02:21.45 | Alpha_vst | i cant use them |
| 02:22.19 | Alpha_vst | i couldnt set data and then in one trigger and then get that data in another trigger |
| 02:22.39 | Alpha_vst | which happens a lot |
| 02:23.51 | Alpha_vst | time to work on something new though :P |
| 02:26.03 | rrowland | Anyone know of software that can split gifs that isn't this shareware junk that google is spammed with? |
| 02:27.22 | Alpha_vst | split gifs? |
| 02:27.38 | rrowland | yes |
| 02:27.46 | rrowland | self explanatory I'd say |
| 02:28.31 | Jcup | sup rrowland |
| 02:28.33 | Alpha_vst | you want to take out each frame> |
| 02:28.35 | Alpha_vst | ? |
| 02:28.37 | rrowland | hey |
| 02:28.40 | rrowland | yea |
| 02:29.27 | Alpha_vst | doesnt image viewer do that |
| 02:29.39 | Alpha_vst | on win 7 at least |
| 02:30.12 | Alpha_vst | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7f79n_CRN8 <--- show this to your girlfriends/wives |
| 02:32.33 | cronos | lol |
| 02:33.06 | rrowland | I wish sc2 editor could splice images |
| 02:33.15 | rrowland | Would make this so much easier |
| 02:38.29 | rrowland | I messed something up, now I can't save as like 80% of the normal photoshop save as options |
| 02:38.35 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 02:38.41 | Alpha_vst | are you in 8 bit |
| 02:38.43 | Alpha_vst | ? |
| 02:38.52 | rrowland | No it's RGB 32bit |
| 02:38.57 | Alpha_vst | thats why |
| 02:39.19 | rrowland | ? |
| 02:39.38 | Alpha_vst | only some formats support 32 bit |
| 02:39.53 | Alpha_vst | ie the ones you see |
| 02:40.04 | rrowland | I always use RGB 32 bit... |
| 02:40.14 | rrowland | I tried 8, 16 and 32 |
| 02:40.18 | rrowland | none will let me save as tga |
| 02:40.23 | rrowland | Whereas I could before |
| 02:42.09 | Alpha_vst | hmmmmmm |
| 02:44.45 | Alpha_vst | it should work |
| 02:45.06 | Alpha_vst | really try rgb 8 bit again |
| 02:47.51 | Jcup | haha alpha_vst |
| 02:47.58 | Alpha_vst | ? |
| 02:48.02 | Jcup | the video |
| 02:48.04 | Jcup | xD |
| 02:48.08 | Alpha_vst | oh yeah i know right |
| 02:48.31 | Jcup | haha I was like oh dam hes WTF Subliminal blowjob |
| 02:48.41 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 02:48.46 | Alpha_vst | same |
| 02:50.17 | Alpha_vst | ok so i have a slight issue that's kinda silly |
| 02:50.43 | Alpha_vst | i spawn units at all the current locations controlled by the zombies |
| 02:50.51 | Alpha_vst | but once the max limit is hit |
| 02:51.17 | Alpha_vst | and then once room becomes free to make more |
| 02:51.21 | Alpha_vst | it makes it at spot 1 |
| 02:51.44 | Alpha_vst | whihc is the upper left most of the map |
| 02:52.18 | Alpha_vst | how would i randomize that shit with out losing performance |
| 02:53.45 | Squeegeez | Ack, if i have triggers that i've added to Galaxy Script (shift f11), how do i get the new script to show up in the main trigger module view? |
| 02:54.07 | rrowland | doesnt work that way |
| 02:54.15 | Squeegeez | which way does it work then? |
| 02:54.34 | rrowland | the script you see when you shift f11 is generated by the trigger XML |
| 02:54.45 | Squeegeez | go on... |
| 02:55.01 | rrowland | Whatever you write in that window is going to be erased next time you compile |
| 02:55.39 | Squeegeez | then... how do i what i wanted to do? =/ (ie change code and have it actually show up) |
| 02:55.58 | rrowland | Put it in a custom code action |
| 02:56.20 | Alpha_vst | afk watching movie |
| 02:56.40 | Squeegeez | gah, that doesn't actually help me =( for the purpose i need |
| 02:56.42 | RodOfNOD | what do u want to do? |
| 02:57.24 | RodOfNOD | atm all ur code is made in gui i assume if u want to change it u have to change it in gui |
| 02:57.54 | RodOfNOD | u could however create a bunch of globals in the editor and then write everything in one big custom script in galaxy |
| 02:58.31 | Squeegeez | it's hard to explain, but i have a lot of "lists" in different triggers, and if i want to add anything to the "lists", i want to be able to "find/replace" the last item in the list, with more list items. So that each list in all the triggers also gets the new items added to the list |
| 02:58.41 | rrowland | Why would you do that when you can just declare the globals in the galaxy script |
| 02:59.07 | rrowland | Sounds like you're overcomplicating, but idk |
| 02:59.10 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 02:59.23 | Squeegeez | it's the way the map is designed |
| 02:59.35 | rrowland | Design it better |
| 02:59.36 | rrowland | :) |
| 02:59.40 | Squeegeez | i haven't come up with a better way =( |
| 02:59.42 | RodOfNOD | if u declare the globals in the galaxy then u cant use them in the gui |
| 02:59.56 | RodOfNOD | so unless your doing everything in gui u will have issues |
| 03:00.18 | RodOfNOD | can u define what u mean by list? |
| 03:00.20 | Squeegeez | so far this is the easiest / most efficient way of doing it, and the alternative is copy/pasting 50 times, which is just more work =/ |
| 03:00.32 | RodOfNOD | give me one sample line of ur list |
| 03:01.04 | Squeegeez | ok, so here's how i explained it to someone the other day: |
| 03:01.08 | RodOfNOD | if its just variable assignments then i would do what i just did |
| 03:01.10 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 03:03.03 | RodOfNOD | spontaneous laughter could be a sign of insanity |
| 03:03.56 | Alpha_vst | he was talking to me |
| 03:03.57 | Squeegeez | you have a grocery list, each item on the list is always the same (ex Butter, Milk, Bread, etc.), but each time you choose a different brand of product. So you go to the store and you get the same type of items, but a different brand every time. Now, you plan your next 50 grocery trips, and make a list for each of them. The problem lies in when you want to add some more items to all your list, you have to copy the "type of pr |
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| 03:04.04 | Squeegeez | and paste them at the end |
| 03:04.06 | Phaos | sup guis |
| 03:04.30 | rrowland | Why... are you making a game about grocery shopping |
| 03:04.35 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:04.41 | RodOfNOD | its for girls |
| 03:04.42 | Squeegeez | because it's easier to explain analagies =/ |
| 03:04.57 | rrowland | That's a stupid analogy and I lose interest after the first line |
| 03:05.02 | rrowland | Why don't you explain the actual problem |
| 03:05.03 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:05.06 | RodOfNOD | agreed |
| 03:05.08 | RodOfNOD | i have to say |
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| 03:05.15 | RodOfNOD | simplyfy and give a specific example |
| 03:05.27 | Squeegeez | replace grocery store with minigame arena, replace grocery list with minigame type (they are all somewhat the same minigames, with different options each time) |
| 03:05.35 | rrowland | too much work |
| 03:05.48 | rrowland | So tl;dr you're making an uther party |
| 03:05.55 | rrowland | That was real hard |
| 03:06.15 | Squeegeez | it takes too long to explain the complex code, so for the A.D.D. tl;dr crowd like yourself, i shorten it into an easier analagy =P |
| 03:06.25 | Squeegeez | uther party..? |
| 03:06.25 | RodOfNOD | rrowland having a bad day bud? :P |
| 03:06.42 | rrowland | Yeah tell someone with ADD about grocery shopping for milk and butter |
| 03:06.46 | rrowland | That'll grab their attention |
| 03:06.59 | RodOfNOD | i still have no idea what your talking about Squeegeez although i would love to help |
| 03:07.02 | rrowland | Uther party is a minigame map |
| 03:07.08 | rrowland | For WC3 |
| 03:07.20 | Squeegeez | i looked it up, and yes it does seem similar |
| 03:07.37 | Squeegeez | i'll try to go a bit more in depth then... |
| 03:07.37 | RodOfNOD | are the lists lists of strings? |
| 03:07.41 | rrowland | So what's the problem |
| 03:08.00 | rrowland | You want each game to only be played once |
| 03:08.02 | rrowland | I get that |
| 03:08.07 | rrowland | But where's the problem |
| 03:08.27 | Squeegeez | the lists are different variables that are used during a template round. The variables are things like what type of units to use this round, how much time in this round, where the spawns are this round |
| 03:08.51 | rrowland | Sounds like a record to me |
| 03:09.00 | Squeegeez | the 1 trigger then just uses all the variables for a particular round to have the round do a particular minigame list |
| 03:09.27 | rrowland | Okay |
| 03:09.47 | rrowland | So what part do you need galaxy for? |
| 03:09.47 | Squeegeez | the problem is after i make 50 rounds, and i need to add to the variable lists, i haven't found an easy way to do that |
| 03:09.58 | rrowland | Why 50? |
| 03:10.17 | rrowland | I'm not sure I understand why #51 is harder than #50 |
| 03:10.21 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 03:10.24 | rrowland | or #3 for that matter |
| 03:10.28 | RodOfNOD | so whats the name of one of ur games |
| 03:10.38 | RodOfNOD | penguin power? |
| 03:10.45 | Squeegeez | like add "this round's colour is", if i ever decided i needed it later. Right now i'd have to paste that to the end of 50 lists, and it's tedious, i was looking for an easier solution to automatically add that to each list |
| 03:11.13 | rrowland | Okay well |
| 03:11.18 | rrowland | This is how I'd store it |
| 03:11.28 | rrowland | 1) Make a preset containing all of your minigames |
| 03:11.44 | Squeegeez | Round name - Zergling warmup round. Spawn type - zerglings. Round time - 2 minutes. Etc. |
| 03:11.52 | RodOfNOD | whats a preset? |
| 03:11.58 | rrowland | So say I have 3 minigames: penguin power, battle arena, zergling frenzy |
| 03:12.05 | rrowland | I add them as 3 elements in my preset |
| 03:12.15 | rrowland | It's an enumeration |
| 03:12.20 | rrowland | So the first one will be 0 |
| 03:12.23 | rrowland | Second will be 1 |
| 03:12.26 | rrowland | Third will be 2 |
| 03:12.31 | rrowland | That way they're organized |
| 03:12.41 | Squeegeez | i don't really follow, preset? enumeration? |
| 03:12.44 | onetwo | prosciutto |
| 03:12.55 | Squeegeez | which is the 1 2 3, the different rounds, or the variable list items? |
| 03:12.59 | rrowland | Like in C if I define this enum: |
| 03:13.20 | rrowland | ENUM colors { red, green, blue} |
| 03:13.27 | rrowland | red is 0, green is 1, blue is 2 |
| 03:13.32 | Squeegeez | i'm taking beginning programming courses in the fall, so i don't quite have the C foundation yet |
| 03:13.33 | rrowland | It just assigns an integer |
| 03:13.40 | rrowland | Based on its position |
| 03:13.51 | rrowland | It's so you can call a member of an array by a name instead of a number |
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| 03:14.11 | rrowland | Instead of calling minigame[17] you can call minigame[Zergling Frenzy] |
| 03:14.13 | RodOfNOD | are u using a series of arrays or the data table? |
| 03:14.21 | rrowland | Because zerling frenzy = 17 |
| 03:14.23 | Fatal5101 | RAWR! |
| 03:14.27 | rrowland | Make sense? |
| 03:14.38 | Fatal5101 | everything makes sense to me |
| 03:14.50 | rrowland | Well I'm not talking to you unfortunately :( |
| 03:15.08 | rrowland | Anyway |
| 03:15.10 | rrowland | Step 2 |
| 03:15.13 | Squeegeez | i'm using different variables, likst a unit type variable, spawn location variable, etc. I change the global variable using the list, like if it's round 1, then use zerglings and default spawn locations |
| 03:15.30 | Squeegeez | like* |
| 03:15.33 | rrowland | 2) Define a record that includes all of the dynamic variables each minigame will have |
| 03:15.40 | rrowland | Such as number of zerglings, etc etc |
| 03:15.55 | RodOfNOD | how can u use a record i didnt think galaxy had objects? |
| 03:15.57 | rrowland | 3) Create a single global variable, an array of your record |
| 03:16.25 | Squeegeez | i think i haven't contemplated the #3 step |
| 03:16.35 | Squeegeez | that might work for what i need |
| 03:16.56 | RodOfNOD | shit why didnt i see they had semi objects |
| 03:16.59 | rrowland | Then when you start minigame 22 you can call it straight from minigames[22] |
| 03:17.24 | Squeegeez | if the array calls on round 1 - zerglings, i tell it to run through changing all the variables to be for that zergling round, correct? |
| 03:17.25 | rrowland | minigames[22].numberofzerglings = 10 |
| 03:17.26 | rrowland | etc |
| 03:17.40 | RodOfNOD | i THINK i know his problem |
| 03:17.42 | rrowland | I don't know what you're asking |
| 03:17.45 | RodOfNOD | i think i do |
| 03:17.47 | RodOfNOD | lol maybe |
| 03:17.55 | RodOfNOD | are u using arrays to store your lists? |
| 03:18.39 | RodOfNOD | zug zug Squeegeez! |
| 03:18.48 | RodOfNOD | damn i cant beleive i didnt see records |
| 03:18.52 | Squeegeez | sorry, arrays are a little hard to wrap my head around right now. Is the array JUST which number is uqual to a certain round? Like array [0] = zerglings, array [27] = battlecruisers? |
| 03:19.03 | RodOfNOD | kinda yes |
| 03:19.12 | rrowland | An array is basically a list of an object |
| 03:19.16 | RodOfNOD | if ur not using arrays then what hes doing is hand assigning the same vars over and over |
| 03:19.19 | RodOfNOD | and thats why hes having issues |
| 03:19.25 | rrowland | So I can have an array of 2 integers: 5 and 7 |
| 03:19.28 | RodOfNOD | cuz THAT would be a pain |
| 03:19.34 | rrowland | array[0] would be 5, array[1] would be 7 |
| 03:19.35 | Squeegeez | ok, so once it finds out that it's round 1 (zerglings) array[0], what shoud it do? |
| 03:19.45 | rrowland | It shouldn't "find out" |
| 03:19.47 | RodOfNOD | well lets be more clear |
| 03:19.48 | rrowland | You should be telling it |
| 03:19.58 | RodOfNOD | pretend we have a need to have the name of the round ok? |
| 03:20.18 | Squeegeez | find, telling it, same thing =P |
| 03:20.25 | RodOfNOD | you store name[ 1] = "name 1", name [2] = "another name" etc etc |
| 03:20.35 | rrowland | no |
| 03:20.38 | Squeegeez | (by find i mean it's going to be random, they way it will find the next game type) |
| 03:20.39 | RodOfNOD | so when u want to reference the 2nd game u just have the 2 |
| 03:20.47 | RodOfNOD | yes but |
| 03:20.51 | RodOfNOD | to make them random is cake |
| 03:20.54 | RodOfNOD | heres what u do |
| 03:20.55 | rrowland | Don't promote making 20 array variables like that |
| 03:21.04 | rrowland | He needs one record with his variables in it |
| 03:21.06 | RodOfNOD | it wil work with records |
| 03:21.07 | RodOfNOD | of coruse |
| 03:21.12 | RodOfNOD | but im explain it simply bud |
| 03:21.20 | RodOfNOD | u cant just shove a record/object down someoens throat |
| 03:21.25 | rrowland | Sure you can |
| 03:21.26 | RodOfNOD | that dont even use arrays in the fisrt place |
| 03:21.30 | RodOfNOD | well YOU CAN |
| 03:21.34 | RodOfNOD | doesnt meant they will get it |
| 03:21.35 | RodOfNOD | anyways |
| 03:21.37 | Squeegeez | i tried records, but they're a little hard to find something when i'm looking for it, since it's embedded inside |
| 03:21.39 | rrowland | Objects make more sense than procedural programming does... |
| 03:21.45 | RodOfNOD | agreed |
| 03:21.47 | RodOfNOD | totally agree |
| 03:21.51 | RodOfNOD | so heres the deal |
| 03:22.09 | RodOfNOD | u createa an araray from 1-50 of random numbers |
| 03:22.15 | RodOfNOD | u then sort them |
| 03:22.51 | RodOfNOD | what to do with uniquness hmm |
| 03:23.21 | rrowland | Why would you create random numbers 1-50 and sort them |
| 03:23.29 | RodOfNOD | thinking fasteest way |
| 03:23.31 | Squeegeez | ok, so i make 1 array for each variable i need? like UnitType1array[ #0-#50), and each number in the array corresponds to that round's unit type? |
| 03:23.34 | RodOfNOD | been awhile since i did this |
| 03:23.39 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 03:23.44 | RodOfNOD | but use record |
| 03:23.47 | rrowland | That's how you'd do it without records |
| 03:23.54 | rrowland | With a record you only need 1 array |
| 03:23.55 | RodOfNOD | not array cuz u have LOTS of different data |
| 03:24.19 | rrowland | For instance, right now I'm working on a sprite engine |
| 03:24.34 | RodOfNOD | what u dont like coke? or 7-up? |
| 03:24.38 | onetwo | an engine that runs on sprite? |
| 03:24.42 | onetwo | can i use 7up? |
| 03:24.45 | RodOfNOD | too slow |
| 03:24.51 | onetwo | additional generic pop joke |
| 03:25.00 | Squeegeez | i don't want to use records =( it just makes accessing the variables harder than it needs to be, since i'll have the majority of variables as globals, and only a few inside the record, so i'm bound to forget if the variable is inside a record and spend time looking in the global variables when it isn't there =/ |
| 03:25.01 | RodOfNOD | so i know what a sprite is relative to sc |
| 03:25.08 | RodOfNOD | wtf are u using sprites for in sc2? |
| 03:25.12 | Phaos | 2d sprites != sprite drink |
| 03:25.12 | onetwo | i knew rrowland was insane, but a engine that runs on sprites |
| 03:25.14 | onetwo | amazing |
| 03:25.16 | onetwo | sprite* |
| 03:25.23 | onetwo | an* |
| 03:25.25 | rrowland | I just made a "Sprite Animation" record that contains 3 variables: Animation Name (String), Animation Frames (Integer), Intervals Per Frame (Integer) |
| 03:25.41 | rrowland | So whenever I make a new sprite animation I can just consider it one object |
| 03:25.46 | rrowland | With multiple values |
| 03:26.06 | RodOfNOD | a sprite is a 2d flat image what are u doing? |
| 03:26.16 | Phaos | grats on OOP standard |
| 03:26.16 | onetwo | ah |
| 03:26.17 | rrowland | Being amazing |
| 03:26.22 | onetwo | kind of alike a struct rrowland? |
| 03:26.25 | onetwo | like a * |
| 03:26.32 | rrowland | I'm explaining it to someone who doesn't know phaos |
| 03:26.41 | Phaos | oh i c |
| 03:26.44 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 03:26.48 | RodOfNOD | u missed the last 20 mins |
| 03:26.58 | Phaos | yeah pretty much :P |
| 03:27.10 | RodOfNOD | ok so u want to order the 50 games different every time |
| 03:27.13 | RodOfNOD | how would u do that? |
| 03:27.21 | rrowland | Trying to explain how records and presets work |
| 03:27.23 | RodOfNOD | do we have integer groups? |
| 03:27.24 | Phaos | i just wanted to interject with snarky "well duh" comments |
| 03:27.25 | rrowland | aka enums and structs |
| 03:27.29 | Twiner | heh |
| 03:27.30 | onetwo | im looking forward to Predators |
| 03:27.31 | onetwo | :D |
| 03:27.40 | Twiner | that guy who made the SC Survivor cinematic should be working for blizzard |
| 03:28.23 | Phaos | naw, just should be making movies for a living |
| 03:28.41 | RodOfNOD | link twiner? |
| 03:28.55 | Twiner | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/4251-sc-survivors-cinematic/ |
| 03:28.57 | Phaos | sccmapster front page |
| 03:29.01 | Phaos | 2* |
| 03:29.23 | onetwo | im surprised he could let some of the footage be so laggy even though he has such a high cinematic-standard |
| 03:29.27 | onetwo | and didnt find a way to make it smoother |
| 03:29.30 | onetwo | it kind of took me out of it |
| 03:29.39 | onetwo | i noticed it in a lot of the sc2 video contest entries too |
| 03:29.59 | onetwo | like, you make something so awesome, but then just are one step short |
| 03:30.02 | onetwo | of perfection |
| 03:30.08 | Twiner | Alpha_vst: were you able to get teh grid to line up perfectly? |
| 03:30.21 | rrowland | squeegeez, you'll be thankful you used records when your variable list isn't cluttered with 300 different variables from completely seperate functions |
| 03:30.30 | Alpha_vst | sorta i had to make it smaller |
| 03:30.45 | Twiner | onetwo: Short of buying a much more powerful computer, I don't really think theres much that can be done |
| 03:30.55 | onetwo | run the game on slow mode |
| 03:30.58 | rrowland | Oh I'm gonna build an awesome computer |
| 03:30.59 | onetwo | or use that tutorial to make it even slower |
| 03:31.02 | Twiner | short of fixing the length of ever frame |
| 03:31.05 | onetwo | or get someone to record it for him |
| 03:31.07 | Squeegeez | ok, so with this system of arrays, if i wanted to add a new round, or new list items, wouldn't the problem of having to add new items be the same tediousness as it was before? Because the way the system would work, i'd still want it so i can change the items in list form (for expample the trigger that gets called when it's round [0], will have the UnitType1[0]=Zerglings, SpawnLocation[0]=DefaultRegion. ) Each round that gets |
| 03:31.12 | onetwo | then re-speed it in post |
| 03:31.19 | rrowland | I'm going to submerge a new computer completely in oil |
| 03:31.20 | rrowland | In a fish tank |
| 03:31.25 | rrowland | With rocks and bubbles |
| 03:31.26 | rrowland | 8) |
| 03:31.28 | onetwo | the BP comp? |
| 03:31.29 | Twiner | Alpha_vst: the doodads look like they line up perfectly |
| 03:31.37 | Twiner | did you make your own blood effects? |
| 03:31.38 | rrowland | haha not motor oil |
| 03:31.38 | Squeegeez | ...which means that if i had to add an Array later for an unforeseen variable, i would still have to add it 50 times, once to each of the Rounds |
| 03:31.39 | rrowland | mineral oil |
| 03:31.55 | rrowland | squee, you need to make a function |
| 03:32.05 | rrowland | That takes all the variables as parameters |
| 03:32.15 | Alpha_vst | each grid is actually 3x3 on my texture |
| 03:32.19 | RodOfNOD | not with a record sq |
| 03:32.19 | Alpha_vst | and yeah i am |
| 03:32.20 | rrowland | And then sets them all inside the function |
| 03:32.22 | RodOfNOD | Squeegeez |
| 03:32.29 | Squeegeez | "you'll be thankful you used records when your variable list isn't cluttered with 300 different variables from completely seperate functions" that's probaby true, i use folders right now, but the actual variable list when looking for a variable inside of an action is growing |
| 03:32.41 | RodOfNOD | i will still have to do the assignment of coruse |
| 03:32.47 | Jcup | Does anyone know how to make it so a unit will rotate around another unit using apply force and a create persistent for offsets and ticks? |
| 03:32.48 | rrowland | And you can either set a default value in a record or in the function parameters |
| 03:32.48 | Phaos | it's crazy, but that survivor cinematic makes me want the twisting nether expansion, but we don't even have wings of liberty yet :P |
| 03:32.53 | rrowland | Either way it'll make your life easier |
| 03:33.10 | RodOfNOD | the survivor has one big problem zealots cant kill mutas hehe |
| 03:33.22 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:33.25 | Phaos | they had the carriers for that :P |
| 03:34.01 | Squeegeez | functions do not work, because adding parameters breaks the already in-place functions, and wont compile, which means i cannot save the map before editing 50 values, which i may not want to do right then |
| 03:34.12 | onetwo | itd be funny if the cinematic stopped halfway through with the zealots complaining about muta's OPness |
| 03:34.40 | RodOfNOD | nice cine |
| 03:34.43 | rrowland | What? |
| 03:34.54 | rrowland | Adding functions / parameters don't break anything |
| 03:35.20 | RodOfNOD | Squeegeez i assume u can pass the record so it doesntt matter |
| 03:35.29 | rrowland | You can't pass a record |
| 03:35.30 | rrowland | No bulk copy |
| 03:35.37 | Squeegeez | yes it does, i tested it out the other day when Custom Definitions was suggested to me |
| 03:35.40 | RodOfNOD | u cant? |
| 03:35.44 | Fatal5101 | someone send me a private message |
| 03:36.09 | Fatal5101 | ..... |
| 03:36.10 | RodOfNOD | Fatal5101 hey big guy how bout some pizza later and maybe we can well u know... oops not in private |
| 03:36.20 | Fatal5101 | that worked tho |
| 03:36.25 | RodOfNOD | cool |
| 03:36.28 | Fatal5101 | just needed to make sure my client was making noise |
| 03:36.32 | RodOfNOD | glad to help |
| 03:36.38 | Squeegeez | if you add a paramater to an action, all the actions that were using it previously are expecting a vlue for the new parameter, which it does not have, and it rejects it |
| 03:36.44 | onetwo | fatal has his client set to vibrate |
| 03:36.49 | onetwo | he wants us to keep PMing him |
| 03:36.57 | RodOfNOD | u cant pass a record to a function? |
| 03:37.21 | Squeegeez | i'm not sure how that would work |
| 03:37.23 | RodOfNOD | but u can pass the reference to the record in an array and accomplish almost the same thing right? |
| 03:38.27 | Squeegeez | i tested using the record way the other day, and determined it would cause more problems in the long run than it solves |
| 03:39.43 | Squeegeez | i thought i had my problems solved when i realized you could get script code, and put that into notepad to find/replace really easily what i needed. But today it turns out that the edited script doesn't turn back into GUI form =( |
| 03:40.39 | RodOfNOD | what kind of code are u referring to |
| 03:40.47 | RodOfNOD | post an example |
| 03:40.55 | RodOfNOD | i think the problem is ur doing ur variable assignments in gui |
| 03:40.56 | Phaos | Woot! my custom workers are working as intended :D they are so complex, but they have been tamed |
| 03:41.12 | RodOfNOD | and that is fine for a one time variable but for huge lists id just do it in galaxy |
| 03:42.05 | Squeegeez | just the Ctrl F11 script, ex gv_region1 = null; |
| 03:42.45 | RodOfNOD | i assume u have 50 regions |
| 03:43.24 | Squeegeez | if there was a way to find/replace "gv_region1 = null;", with "gv_region1 = null;" PLUS 5 other new variables underneath, then i could just do that, and have all 50 rounds auromatically have 5 new variables added to their lists |
| 03:43.43 | RodOfNOD | do it in galaxy |
| 03:43.54 | onetwo | this is too much coding for me |
| 03:43.56 | onetwo | haha |
| 03:43.58 | Squeegeez | the region1 example is just pulled code from some testing i was doing, not part of my map |
| 03:43.58 | RodOfNOD | convert what u have so far from gui to galaxy by copying what it makes |
| 03:44.06 | RedWraith | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 03:44.20 | purl | tehwildcard <~Jer@pool-71-122-122-129.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 10d 8h 26m 55s ago, saying: 'You cant place it'. |
| 03:44.20 | RodOfNOD | and remove all assignments and just use the galaxy |
| 03:44.27 | RodOfNOD | do u follow me? |
| 03:44.44 | Squeegeez | i don't want to just use galaxy, it's only handy for a very few specific uses, all others are way more easier in the trigger editor itself |
| 03:45.09 | RodOfNOD | sigh |
| 03:45.29 | Squeegeez | i know =( |
| 03:45.31 | Squeegeez | *sigh* |
| 03:45.41 | RodOfNOD | well ur not taking our suggestions so its hard to help |
| 03:45.56 | RodOfNOD | galaxy is way better for mass variable assignments |
| 03:45.58 | Squeegeez | i'm trying =( |
| 03:46.01 | RodOfNOD | gv_theArray[init_i].lv_aStr = "" |
| 03:46.06 | Squeegeez | the suggestions are just not fixing the problem |
| 03:46.12 | RodOfNOD | gv_theArray[0].lv_aStr = "test" |
| 03:46.19 | Squeegeez | although i may tough it out, and just get used to records |
| 03:46.32 | RodOfNOD | for example i can copy and paste that one assignment and make it be 50 tall and easily change every line in a text edtitor |
| 03:46.43 | RodOfNOD | which is 10x faster than gui |
| 03:47.03 | RodOfNOD | what i do actually is i use excel |
| 03:47.14 | Squeegeez | true, but what if i don't know what a trigger is supposed to look like in code form? |
| 03:47.15 | RodOfNOD | i have all my DATA sittingin a spreadsheet |
| 03:47.29 | RodOfNOD | then u write it in gui and convert it |
| 03:47.34 | RodOfNOD | im just telling u assignment |
| 03:47.43 | RodOfNOD | not talking about the actual works of the trigger |
| 03:47.53 | RodOfNOD | ur data is half the issue |
| 03:48.03 | RedWraith | hey guys |
| 03:48.05 | RedWraith | help me decide |
| 03:48.20 | RodOfNOD | YES is my decision RedWraith |
| 03:48.23 | RedWraith | if it's worth it attaching a sphere to the back of sentries |
| 03:48.30 | RedWraith | since they have a glowing blue light underneath |
| 03:48.43 | RodOfNOD | ok Squeegeez u can even have a triggger be part of ur DATA so its a piece of cake |
| 03:49.02 | RodOfNOD | pics would help RedWraith |
| 03:49.17 | RodOfNOD | I KNOW what i need to make |
| 03:49.23 | RodOfNOD | a effect sampler |
| 03:49.25 | RodOfNOD | mwhahaha |
| 03:49.32 | RodOfNOD | i did one for wc3 |
| 03:49.37 | RedWraith | I'll give you pics in a sec |
| 03:49.50 | RodOfNOD | of coruse if i recall the editor now does this |
| 03:49.56 | RodOfNOD | i just havent figure out how yet |
| 03:49.59 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 03:50.12 | RodOfNOD | am i correct i can attach a model to an attachment point and see it in the editor? |
| 03:50.41 | Phaos | absolutely |
| 03:50.43 | RodOfNOD | wow records are gonna be cool |
| 03:50.46 | Squeegeez | excell wouldn't be a half bad idea, if i knew how to convert the excel table into my Round Lists inside the editor |
| 03:50.57 | RodOfNOD | round lists? |
| 03:51.06 | Squeegeez | the variables we're talking about |
| 03:51.12 | RodOfNOD | do you know how to concatinate in excel? |
| 03:51.23 | Squeegeez | round 1 = zerglings, 2 minutes, regularspawnlocation, etc. |
| 03:51.32 | RodOfNOD | ah yes i saw round as in circular |
| 03:51.35 | Squeegeez | concatinate? no. |
| 03:51.45 | RodOfNOD | well let me make a picture of what i just did |
| 03:53.32 | Phaos | what is making larva spawn periodicly near hatcheries lairs and hives ? |
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| 03:53.44 | Phaos | nm found it |
| 03:53.47 | Phaos | -_- |
| 03:54.17 | RedWraith | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5848688/EditorSentries.jpg |
| 03:54.30 | RedWraith | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5848688/gamesentry.jpg |
| 03:54.32 | RedWraith | do you see the problem |
| 03:54.35 | RedWraith | with the second one? |
| 03:54.35 | RedWraith | :( |
| 03:54.55 | RedWraith | that light just suddenly becomes |
| 03:54.58 | RedWraith | SO BRIGHT |
| 03:55.01 | RedWraith | for no real reason |
| 03:55.03 | RodOfNOD | Squeegeez http://img39.imageshack.us/i/charsng.jpg/ |
| 03:55.05 | RedWraith | and I have no ways to get rid of it |
| 03:55.14 | RedWraith | and it's ruining the look of my sentries |
| 03:55.15 | RedWraith | ;( |
| 03:56.15 | RodOfNOD | standard sentry? |
| 03:57.00 | RodOfNOD | isnt the problem the overall lighting on the map |
| 03:57.00 | RodOfNOD | ? |
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| 03:57.09 | RodOfNOD | Squeegeez u there? |
| 03:57.16 | Squeegeez | ok, i get what you're doing |
| 03:57.19 | RedWraith | no, no |
| 03:57.23 | RodOfNOD | so i have a HUGE table |
| 03:57.34 | RodOfNOD | and i just concat the strings and data together |
| 03:57.44 | RodOfNOD | then when i change something i just copy the entire column |
| 03:57.53 | RodOfNOD | makes for cake to change and easy to see the data |
| 03:58.04 | RodOfNOD | i will be something similar for xml file generation |
| 03:58.12 | Squeegeez | but i don't know how to get the number to be inserted inside the code (via formula?), and i also don't know how to take that excell data, and use it inside GE to make it work |
| 03:58.15 | RodOfNOD | or i might write a filemaker pro db |
| 03:58.19 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 03:58.27 | RodOfNOD | ok |
| 03:58.35 | RodOfNOD | lets talk about part 2 first |
| 03:58.52 | RodOfNOD | take one of the lines of your code right now where u assign |
| 03:59.00 | RodOfNOD | go and view source |
| 03:59.07 | RodOfNOD | and see what that assignment loooks like |
| 03:59.08 | RodOfNOD | copy it |
| 03:59.27 | RodOfNOD | now go make the excel do the same using a similar formula to what i did |
| 03:59.39 | RodOfNOD | pasted down 1.50 |
| 03:59.45 | RodOfNOD | paste down the formula |
| 03:59.47 | RodOfNOD | put in the data |
| 03:59.50 | RodOfNOD | now to get it back in |
| 04:00.01 | RodOfNOD | first REMOVE the original assignment u dont need that anymore |
| 04:00.06 | RodOfNOD | of course MAKE A BACKUP |
| 04:00.09 | RodOfNOD | of ur map first |
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| 04:00.46 | RodOfNOD | then make an action like this: General - Custom Script: (None) |
| 04:00.56 | RodOfNOD | and u simply paste all those assignments into it |
| 04:01.03 | RodOfNOD | mae sure u run this at init |
| 04:01.07 | RodOfNOD | and ur good as gold |
| 04:01.29 | Jcup | Anyone available to maybe give me a hand x.x |
| 04:01.37 | RodOfNOD | whats up? |
| 04:01.38 | Jcup | Does anyone know how to make it so a unit will rotate around another unit using apply force and a create persistent for offsets and ticks? |
| 04:02.03 | RodOfNOD | i have no idea what that means but the first ? is do u want to trigger it or data it? |
| 04:02.12 | Jcup | data |
| 04:02.25 | RodOfNOD | is there a unit that currrently does this? |
| 04:03.07 | Squeegeez | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:03.27 | Jcup | no thats why I am asking, I have a tornado that pulls in the units alrdy, and when they reach the center they gain a buff to stop the pull and the buff creates a new persistent that uses offsets to try and force the unit to rotate around the tornado |
| 04:03.47 | Jcup | But right now the offsets r being retarted |
| 04:03.49 | RodOfNOD | Squeegeez did u look at the forumla part of what i pasted? |
| 04:04.11 | RodOfNOD | cant help u sorry jcup havent gotten there yet |
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| 04:04.27 | Jcup | alrightttt |
| 04:04.47 | RodOfNOD | ie this part Squeegeez : ="gv_chars[ "&STRING(C1,0)&"] = """&D1&""";" |
| 04:04.56 | valkrial | just incase any of you havent caught it yet, there's a new video that covers lore backstory up at starcraft2.com/dominion |
| 04:05.10 | valkrial | i enjoyed it :) |
| 04:05.34 | RodOfNOD | i just finished heavens devils yesterday my fav sci fi author |
| 04:05.35 | Squeegeez | i got confused on the quotations, so far i have ="gv_region1 = RegionFromId('&D1&');" |
| 04:05.57 | RodOfNOD | well its all " |
| 04:05.58 | RodOfNOD | not ' |
| 04:06.19 | RodOfNOD | and u have to reference C1 or in ur case might be B1 |
| 04:06.23 | RodOfNOD | for the # |
| 04:06.49 | RodOfNOD | do u have gv_region2 etc? |
| 04:07.41 | Squeegeez | gv_region1 = RegionFromId("7"); will GE accept "7" instead of just 7? |
| 04:08.15 | RodOfNOD | no u dont want that for that |
| 04:08.22 | RodOfNOD | the "" are used for the formula |
| 04:08.27 | RodOfNOD | u wont see them in the actual text |
| 04:08.37 | RodOfNOD | unless u are making an actual string and THEN u need """ |
| 04:08.54 | RodOfNOD | i need to be clear though |
| 04:09.04 | RodOfNOD | region1 isnt the first region of 50 is it |
| 04:09.16 | RodOfNOD | its the region u want to do ur shit for the actual game right? |
| 04:09.48 | Squeegeez | well my formula looks like ="gv_region1 = RegionFromId("""&D8&""");" and the field looks like gv_region1 = RegionFromId("7"); |
| 04:10.00 | Squeegeez | (i put the number 7 at D8) |
| 04:10.10 | RodOfNOD | k u notice i had a string for my data type |
| 04:10.12 | RodOfNOD | u dont |
| 04:10.23 | RodOfNOD | so u need only 1 " instead of 3 in both places |
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| 04:10.47 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 04:10.56 | RodOfNOD | hey |
| 04:10.59 | Phaos | hmm I have my unit periodicly spawning but I have a problem |
| 04:11.03 | RodOfNOD | its the one that sparks |
| 04:11.12 | Phaos | I need them to pop nuetral, not player aligned |
| 04:11.16 | RodOfNOD | well tell it to stop spawning dammit |
| 04:11.30 | RodOfNOD | event unit is created i think |
| 04:11.35 | RodOfNOD | change player to neutral |
| 04:11.38 | Squeegeez | let's say region1 will always be the spawn region. So for gametypes with alternative spawn postions, i just change region1 to be RegionFromId(2) |
| 04:11.41 | Phaos | good point! |
| 04:11.48 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/dragonball-z-saiyan-rage/. Dragonball Z Saiyan Rage. cinicraft (Manager/Author). Approved by Bifuu. |
| 04:11.56 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/terrain-showcase/. Terrain Showcase. InternetNinja (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Bifuu. |
| 04:12.00 | Repo | New asset: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/keyboard-fun/. Keyboard Fun. RodOfNOD (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Bifuu. |
| 04:12.05 | RodOfNOD | ok so u should now have it without the """ |
| 04:12.08 | RodOfNOD | wee im approved! |
| 04:12.12 | RodOfNOD | my first approval! |
| 04:12.13 | RodOfNOD | weee |
| 04:12.14 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 04:12.24 | RodOfNOD | ty Repo! |
| 04:13.05 | RodOfNOD | u got it Squeegeez or do i need to be more specific? |
| 04:13.46 | Squeegeez | ok, i got it correct, now to have it when i say use "Round 3", it uses alternate spawns, "gv_region1 = RegionFromId(2);" |
| 04:13.55 | RodOfNOD | i do all my data assignments in excel cuz GUI and Galaxy blow for easily changing |
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| 04:14.17 | RodOfNOD | is the # referring to the game # ? |
| 04:14.32 | RodOfNOD | hi Bifuu |
| 04:14.59 | Bifuu | hola |
| 04:15.00 | RodOfNOD | first u had 7 now 2? |
| 04:15.23 | Squeegeez | uhh... let's say gvSpawnRegion[2] (for round 3), is going to be = RegionFromId(2); |
| 04:15.25 | RodOfNOD | can u crack my skull and fill it with galaxy and data info please Bifuu |
| 04:15.55 | Squeegeez | yes, i changed 7 to 2, because i didn't figure having an example with 7 alternative spawn zones was a good example =P |
| 04:16.15 | RodOfNOD | ok well in ur map how many do u have? |
| 04:16.27 | Bifuu | i can try, no promises you will live tho |
| 04:16.42 | Bifuu | is it 7/27 yet |
| 04:16.45 | RodOfNOD | thats ok if i dont i wont know an better |
| 04:16.49 | RodOfNOD | 7/27? |
| 04:16.54 | RodOfNOD | oh nm, |
| 04:16.57 | Squeegeez | i don't know yet, and i'm going to gave more/less depending on how many minigames i can get made |
| 04:17.01 | RodOfNOD | i was thinking u were Squeegeez for a sec |
| 04:17.04 | Squeegeez | for simplicity, let's say 4 |
| 04:17.10 | RodOfNOD | ok so u have 50 games u have 50 regions right? |
| 04:17.25 | RodOfNOD | oh so ur going to reuse certain areas for different games? |
| 04:17.28 | Squeegeez | (main arena, closer arena spawns, an alternate arena, and another alternate arena) |
| 04:17.35 | Squeegeez | yeah |
| 04:17.39 | RodOfNOD | ok np |
| 04:17.54 | RodOfNOD | so are u planning on using arrays and or records? |
| 04:18.16 | Squeegeez | i think so, although i wont need to use records if i'm doing it this way? |
| 04:18.26 | RodOfNOD | gv_shiftChars[ 7] = "$"; |
| 04:18.26 | RodOfNOD | gv_shiftChars[ 8] = "%"; |
| 04:18.32 | RodOfNOD | ok so there is my arrray |
| 04:18.45 | RodOfNOD | for 7 it = $ and for 8 it = % |
| 04:18.58 | Squeegeez | the point of records was so i could easily add things, but i think doing it in excell would make that problem go away |
| 04:19.05 | RodOfNOD | if i pass my array OR my record a 7 it will draw a $ get it? |
| 04:19.26 | Squeegeez | yeah |
| 04:19.31 | RodOfNOD | well no the point of records is encapsulation |
| 04:19.39 | RodOfNOD | u group this set of data to this record |
| 04:19.44 | RodOfNOD | u do this so u dont have names like |
| 04:19.49 | RodOfNOD | contents.integer |
| 04:19.52 | RodOfNOD | grr |
| 04:19.55 | RodOfNOD | contentsinteger |
| 04:20.00 | RodOfNOD | contentsstring |
| 04:20.02 | RodOfNOD | isntead u have |
| 04:20.08 | RodOfNOD | contents.integer |
| 04:20.14 | RodOfNOD | i know it seems the same |
| 04:20.18 | RodOfNOD | but its not |
| 04:20.26 | Squeegeez | yeah, it's a little less cluttered |
| 04:20.36 | RodOfNOD | well it means u can deal with data mentally |
| 04:20.41 | RodOfNOD | all this stuff is in this record |
| 04:20.54 | RodOfNOD | rather than 8 variables its 1 variable with 8 values |
| 04:21.14 | RodOfNOD | not exactly correct but if u think about it that way it encapsulates the data |
| 04:21.14 | RodOfNOD | ok |
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| 04:21.17 | RodOfNOD | point is |
| 04:21.20 | ekcolnvkol | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
| 04:21.29 | RodOfNOD | u need to get the array on the left side of ur assignment |
| 04:21.35 | RodOfNOD | right now ur doing data1 |
| 04:21.39 | RodOfNOD | and u want to do data[1] |
| 04:21.59 | RodOfNOD | thing is when u decide ok we want to do the 5th game |
| 04:22.15 | RodOfNOD | instead of having to assign each of ur data to the local variables |
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| 04:22.40 | RodOfNOD | u just use the record.array[ #] |
| 04:22.48 | RodOfNOD | wher # = 5 in this case |
| 04:22.59 | RodOfNOD | u never DO assign to a local variable because u dont have to |
| 04:23.01 | RodOfNOD | follow me? |
| 04:23.23 | Squeegeez | all up until you said the last part =P |
| 04:23.57 | Squeegeez | instead of assigning a global variable, i assign it inside and array (which is inside a record?) |
| 04:24.28 | Squeegeez | an* array |
| 04:24.34 | RodOfNOD | well i put that bad |
| 04:24.36 | RodOfNOD | in ur case |
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| 04:24.43 | Phaos | what is "stats - slop" ? |
| 04:24.46 | RodOfNOD | recordname.regionname[ #] |
| 04:25.04 | RodOfNOD | where the names are whatever u want them to be |
| 04:25.25 | Squeegeez | and that # = a span zone number |
| 04:25.28 | Squeegeez | spawn* |
| 04:25.29 | RodOfNOD | the key is u initially assign it to a global for ALL ur data at the beginning of the running of the map |
| 04:25.43 | RodOfNOD | no that number is a game # |
| 04:25.53 | Squeegeez | yeah |
| 04:25.54 | RodOfNOD | one of the bits of data you will have is |
| 04:26.04 | RodOfNOD | recordname.spawnarea[ #] = 1..4 |
| 04:26.14 | RodOfNOD | the data will tell u which area to spawn in |
| 04:26.37 | RodOfNOD | u can then have a recordname.triggername[ #] = triggeruwant |
| 04:26.47 | RodOfNOD | and then u can call the trigger by the array # |
| 04:27.05 | RodOfNOD | that way you have ur gui code which u like doing whatever special shit it needs to do for the game |
| 04:27.12 | RodOfNOD | specific to that trigger |
| 04:27.18 | RodOfNOD | grr specirfic to that game |
| 04:28.23 | Squeegeez | gotcha, so what do i copy / paste from the excell? all the recordname.regionname[1] = recordname.spawnarea[2] , etc.? |
| 04:28.34 | Phaos | this is ridiculous, with the "spawn larva" behavior, they have it so there is a max amount that can be spawned, except without it's accompanying requirement it spawns the max number at initialization (19) however the requirment means that in the future no more than 3 can ever be spawned at a time |
| 04:28.49 | RodOfNOD | yes remember u need a ; at the end of the statment |
| 04:28.54 | RodOfNOD | or it wont compile correctly |
| 04:28.56 | RodOfNOD | each line does |
| 04:28.57 | RodOfNOD | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.57 | Phaos | what I /want/ is for it to initialy spawn 3 and be able to spawn up to 19 |
| 04:29.05 | RodOfNOD | so thats how u can call the trigger u neee |
| 04:29.19 | RodOfNOD | thats a record with a trigger component to the record |
| 04:29.55 | RodOfNOD | that surprises me |
| 04:29.59 | RodOfNOD | i cant remmebr in sc2 but |
| 04:30.03 | RodOfNOD | in sc1 it would start with 1 |
| 04:30.05 | RodOfNOD | then go up to 3 |
| 04:30.14 | RodOfNOD | are u saying in sc2 it starts at 3 and alwyas has 3? |
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| 04:30.42 | RodOfNOD | or are u saying u have an upgrade that makes it spawn > 3 ? |
| 04:31.35 | Phaos | there is a requirement which means that naturally the hatchery will only spawn three and no greater than 3 however a hatchery (through queen intervention) can support up to 19 |
| 04:31.59 | RodOfNOD | ok so? |
| 04:32.02 | Phaos | however if this requirement didn't exist, the hatchery would automaticly initialise by spawning 19, the max |
| 04:32.20 | RodOfNOD | ok but in sc2 the queen makes the spawns |
| 04:32.20 | slightlyrandom | Sounds like there are two restrictions there |
| 04:32.21 | Phaos | what I want, is it to spawn up to 19, but start at 3 |
| 04:32.23 | RodOfNOD | do u want to do the same? |
| 04:32.29 | Phaos | no |
| 04:32.30 | RodOfNOD | when will it spawn 4? |
| 04:32.44 | Phaos | it will spawn four if the queen uses her egg ability |
| 04:33.09 | Phaos | the hatchery alone will only produce up to 3 because of the requirement |
| 04:33.28 | RodOfNOD | ok but i guess what im asking is what are u doing different than melee |
| 04:34.02 | Phaos | however, again, from a mechanics standpoint, if the requirement doesn't exist, then the hatchery will automaticly spawn it's maximum number of larva (19) at initialisation |
| 04:34.12 | Phaos | yes |
| 04:34.15 | Phaos | yes I am |
| 04:34.22 | Phaos | as I explained multiple times |
| 04:34.29 | Phaos | the hatchery is to /start/ at 3 |
| 04:34.34 | Phaos | but keep spawning up to 19 |
| 04:34.40 | RodOfNOD | ok and thats what happens in sc2 for the first part right? |
| 04:34.46 | RodOfNOD | stgarts with 3 right? |
| 04:34.52 | RodOfNOD | normally |
| 04:35.03 | Phaos | starts at 3 but will spawn NO HIGHER than 3 without queens intervention |
| 04:35.05 | RodOfNOD | if u use one it then rebuild it and u have 3 |
| 04:35.09 | RodOfNOD | i understand |
| 04:35.22 | RodOfNOD | what u want is to start at 3 and then over time with no intervention go to 19? |
| 04:35.29 | Phaos | yes |
| 04:35.39 | RodOfNOD | ok well one easy way would be to use a trigger |
| 04:35.43 | heysparky | Phaos, could you make an upgrade that increases the spawnlimit to 19? |
| 04:35.44 | Phaos | no triggers |
| 04:35.45 | RodOfNOD | a periodic to cast it |
| 04:36.07 | Squeegeez | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.14 | Squeegeez | looks like a localization issue? |
| 04:36.17 | RodOfNOD | Squeegeez use pastebin please |
| 04:36.27 | Squeegeez | the Param/Value/asfasge, how do i fix that? |
| 04:36.33 | Phaos | that applies after initialization heysparky ? |
| 04:36.38 | heysparky | get the SC2Localizer utitility |
| 04:36.41 | heysparky | yeah, Phaos |
| 04:36.54 | Phaos | sounds good! |
| 04:37.08 | Squeegeez | what does pastebin do? |
| 04:37.17 | RodOfNOD | doesnt clutter up the page |
| 04:37.21 | Fatal5101 | pastebin.com |
| 04:37.25 | heysparky | pastebin is a non-cluttery way to share code snippets |
| 04:37.28 | Fatal5101 | syntax highlighting |
| 04:37.38 | RodOfNOD | ie if its over 3 lines paste here: http://pastebin.com/ |
| 04:37.40 | Phaos | ack |
| 04:37.43 | Phaos | off to work I go |
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| 04:37.48 | TheLaughingMan | Hell fucking yea! |
| 04:37.53 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:37.57 | RodOfNOD | welcome lol boy |
| 04:38.27 | RodOfNOD | well idk for sure Squeegeez if those change over time once u have assigned them |
| 04:38.30 | Squeegeez | erm, which syntax highlighting should i use? there's a lot |
| 04:38.32 | RodOfNOD | but u can do the same thing we just did |
| 04:38.36 | RodOfNOD | doesnt matter |
| 04:38.41 | TheLaughingMan | I got it to install! |
| 04:38.41 | RodOfNOD | none |
| 04:39.00 | RodOfNOD | congrats |
| 04:39.21 | RodOfNOD | so in the case of the StringExternal("Param/Value/D91FD10D") thats where u need to use 3 " ie """ |
| 04:39.42 | RodOfNOD | or 2 " if its in the midddle of the string |
| 04:40.22 | RodOfNOD | StringExternal(""Param/Value i think will do it have to experiment |
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| 04:41.06 | RodOfNOD | Squeegeez i know that if u actually want a " in a trigger u have to use \" |
| 04:41.06 | TheLaughingMan | Woot! |
| 04:41.33 | TheLaughingMan | So fun to have a freshly installed OS |
| 04:42.11 | RodOfNOD | i bet |
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| 04:44.59 | TheLaughingMan | 3DS Max actually installed for me |
| 04:45.05 | Squeegeez_ | my irc webclient froze :< |
| 04:45.12 | Squeegeez_ | there goes my ghost |
| 04:45.14 | RodOfNOD | :P |
| 04:45.41 | Squeegeez_ | Thanks a lot for your help RodOfNOD, really appreciate it =) |
| 04:45.45 | Squeegeez_ | you too rrowland |
| 04:45.48 | RodOfNOD | hope it helped |
| 04:45.55 | RodOfNOD | remember me in your will |
| 04:46.43 | Squeegeez_ | if i had that kind of policy of doing that, you'd have to share it with about 15436 people =P |
| 04:47.12 | RodOfNOD | thats ok |
| 04:48.34 | heysparky | wow, my map's starting to look like a map :D |
| 04:48.41 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:48.43 | Squeegeez_ | you'l get your 2 cents in the mail then, expect it in about 50 years |
| 04:48.44 | RodOfNOD | pics movies? |
| 04:48.48 | RodOfNOD | k |
| 04:48.49 | RodOfNOD | i will |
| 04:48.57 | RodOfNOD | or u could just give me crredit in ur maps credits |
| 04:48.59 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 04:49.19 | Squeegeez_ | i was going to give a general "thanks to everyone on IRC" |
| 04:49.35 | Squeegeez_ | how about a "You know who you are out there", lol |
| 04:49.38 | RodOfNOD | i keep a list actually |
| 04:49.43 | RodOfNOD | but thats up to u |
| 04:49.47 | heysparky | I've been keeping a list in one of my triggers, 'special thanks' add to it as folks help |
| 04:49.57 | Squeegeez_ | you're making me feel bad that i haven't been keeping a list of name :< |
| 04:49.59 | heysparky | I only started it a couple weeks ago so I know I've missed some folks |
| 04:50.06 | heysparky | lol, you can start |
| 04:50.21 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 04:50.24 | Squeegeez_ | i can't start! that's unfair to the people who've already helped me that i've forgotten! =P |
| 04:50.24 | heysparky | actually, it was Rod's help that inspired me to keep one |
| 04:50.27 | RodOfNOD | fel bad very bad hehe |
| 04:50.29 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:50.32 | RodOfNOD | i try |
| 04:50.35 | RodOfNOD | ive been there |
| 04:50.38 | RodOfNOD | and i m still there |
| 04:50.44 | RodOfNOD | so i know what it takes to help and be helped |
| 04:51.05 | heysparky | start one now |
| 04:51.13 | heysparky | and if you remember a name, add to it |
| 04:51.26 | heysparky | and some folks may even remind you that they helped |
| 04:51.28 | heysparky | :) |
| 04:51.55 | Squeegeez_ | i'd hate to have somebody left out and have to email me to tell me they helped me =/ |
| 04:52.00 | heysparky | there;s nothing wrong with forgetting folks on IRC, it's harder to discern individuals here |
| 04:52.14 | heysparky | make a catch all |
| 04:52.17 | heysparky | as well |
| 04:52.20 | TheLaughingMan | So |
| 04:52.29 | heysparky | that's if you want to |
| 04:52.31 | heysparky | :) |
| 04:52.35 | TheLaughingMan | In like 30 minutes I will have the most bad ass ship in SC2 |
| 04:52.54 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 04:53.09 | Squeegeez_ | "and everyone else who've i've forgetten, yes that's YOU. I forgot YOU. I mentioned the others because, well, i remembered them. But oh no, not YOU. I didn't remember YOU. But thanks anyway!" |
| 04:53.10 | Squeegeez_ | =P |
| 04:53.48 | RodOfNOD | lol |
| 04:53.56 | heysparky | yeah, put it that way :) |
| 04:54.56 | RodOfNOD | just say "And to all you assholes in sc2mapster you can bite me!!! |
| 04:54.59 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 04:56.09 | Squeegeez_ | "I've collectively stolen the ideas of some chumps on IRC and SC2Mapster, i've forgotten them, but who cares, i got what i needed. BTW, here's MY map, enjoy!" |
| 04:56.18 | Squeegeez_ | that will go over well =P |
| 04:56.26 | RodOfNOD | exactly |
| 04:56.29 | RodOfNOD | that will be perfecto |
| 05:02.03 | RodOfNOD | wow utter silence |
| 05:02.15 | Squeegeez_ | how do i get a collumn to stay put in excell? So i can see what variables the data corresponds to when i'm 25 collumns away? |
| 05:02.27 | RodOfNOD | freeze |
| 05:02.28 | RodOfNOD | panes |
| 05:02.50 | Squeegeez_ | where do i find this magical freeze panes button? |
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| 05:03.09 | Squeegeez_ | found it |
| 05:03.22 | RodOfNOD | in the magical land of frozen panes of course |
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| 05:04.15 | Squeegeez_ | not to be confused with the magical land of frozen pains of course |
| 05:04.21 | RodOfNOD | agreed |
| 05:04.26 | RodOfNOD | that would be where u are right now |
| 05:04.46 | TheLaughingMan | Hurry! |
| 05:04.54 | Squeegeez_ | the frost only hurts until it turns black and blue though =D |
| 05:06.59 | TheLaughingMan | onetwo, who are you on the forums? |
| 05:07.16 | onetwo | on phone, but on bnet im onetwosc |
| 05:07.21 | onetwo | and same on sc2mapster forums |
| 05:09.04 | RodOfNOD | hes 12SC |
| 05:09.24 | Fatal5101 | can someone link me to the blue post where they said they would bring the beta up a few weeks before release? |
| 05:10.06 | TheLaughingMan | Why? |
| 05:10.35 | Fatal5101 | someone does not believe me! |
| 05:10.50 | TheLaughingMan | Are they in the Beta? |
| 05:12.23 | Fatal5101 | someone is wrong on the internet |
| 05:12.30 | Alpha_vst | LIES |
| 05:12.34 | Fatal5101 | i cannot sleep without proving them wrong |
| 05:12.39 | TheLaughingMan | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25172121561&sid=5000 |
| 05:12.51 | TheLaughingMan | It isn't the official one but it proves your point |
| 05:13.41 | heysparky | I wish there were better looking busticated korhal buildings |
| 05:14.45 | Alpha_vst | poor sparky |
| 05:15.08 | heysparky | Say, can anyone speculate on why the cliff jump behavior would ignore it's requirements (I gave it requirements) |
| 05:15.25 | Alpha_vst | what kinda req |
| 05:15.45 | heysparky | unit count > mutagenic waste (jump) > complete at unit |
| 05:15.47 | heysparky | constant 1 |
| 05:16.06 | heysparky | (this makes it so that the 'mutagenic waste' has to be loaded as cargo |
| 05:16.07 | heysparky | ) |
| 05:16.24 | heysparky | works for every bleeding other behavior except cliff jumping |
| 05:16.47 | heysparky | cargo loaded, behavior works; cargo unloaded - behavior doesn't work |
| 05:16.53 | Alpha_vst | you might be putting it in the wrong location? |
| 05:17.06 | Alpha_vst | i know i tend to do that with them |
| 05:17.06 | heysparky | how so? |
| 05:17.36 | Alpha_vst | maybe im confusing it with soemthing else :P |
| 05:18.14 | heysparky | the Queen has a custom Cliff Jump behavior with the requirement Have Crate Jump (described above) |
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| 05:19.18 | Triceron | haaaiiiiiiiiii |
| 05:19.24 | heysparky | howdy Triceron |
| 05:19.39 | heysparky | I'll see if the regular cliff jump ability is bork too |
| 05:21.07 | RodOfNOD | its da man from the planet triceroi |
| 05:21.32 | Triceron | gives RodOfNOD a weird look |
| 05:21.44 | onetwo | TheLaughingMan |
| 05:21.51 | onetwo | how come you needed my forum id |
| 05:22.16 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 05:22.26 | RodOfNOD | heysparky are u saying that it wont unload the cargo? |
| 05:22.52 | RodOfNOD | cuz in wc3 it took like 4-5 different abilities to actually get cargo shit to work |
| 05:23.03 | RodOfNOD | it wouldnt suprise me to see the same thing here |
| 05:23.27 | RodOfNOD | slaps Triceron with a big ole salmon! |
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| 05:23.40 | RodOfNOD | welcome back Phaos |
| 05:23.50 | Phaos | Welcome to Slingshot, your speakign with Rory, How can I Help? |
| 05:23.50 | Squeegeez_ | hmm... is having 750 globally defined variables (in arrays though) better than having 15 global variables that get changed? |
| 05:24.25 | heysparky | damn, normal cliff jump doens't work too |
| 05:24.31 | RodOfNOD | doesnt matter cuz |
| 05:24.35 | RodOfNOD | each array takes up same space |
| 05:24.39 | RodOfNOD | as ind variables |
| 05:24.43 | heysparky | no, the cargo loading unloading works normally |
| 05:24.48 | heysparky | the behavior doesn't toggle |
| 05:24.54 | RodOfNOD | what do u mean ? |
| 05:25.10 | heysparky | I'm using cargo to toggle behaviors on and off |
| 05:25.19 | heysparky | and the only one that doesn't work is silly cliff jumping |
| 05:25.26 | heysparky | the unit always cliff jumps |
| 05:25.29 | heysparky | no matter the cargo |
| 05:25.42 | RodOfNOD | so u want it to not jump clif if it has something in the cargo? |
| 05:26.00 | heysparky | no, the cargo is a 'mutagen' that grants cliff jumping |
| 05:26.14 | Phaos | Welcome to Slingshot your speaking, Welcome to Slingshot your speaking with Rory, Rory, Ror, Welcome to S-S-Slignshot Slingshot, Welcome to Slingshot your speaking to speaking to speaking to Rory Slingshot speaking to Ror Slingshot Welcome to Slingshot slingsh-sh-o-sling Slingshot *Boom* |
| 05:26.15 | RodOfNOD | ok so the unit has cargo then he can jump |
| 05:26.16 | heysparky | all other behaviors toggle on and off properly |
| 05:26.39 | RodOfNOD | so u have other behaviors that are dependant the same way that all work fine |
| 05:26.42 | heysparky | yeah, using requirements to detect the cargo |
| 05:26.43 | RodOfNOD | but this one odesnt |
| 05:26.43 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 05:26.46 | heysparky | yup |
| 05:26.52 | RodOfNOD | k well could easily be a blizzard bug |
| 05:27.11 | RodOfNOD | thats exactly the kind of shit tha we found in wc3 when it first came out |
| 05:27.19 | RodOfNOD | of coruse u might be missing something so |
| 05:27.23 | RodOfNOD | heres what i recommend |
| 05:27.25 | heysparky | well, I would agree, except that when I had the cargo granting auras that granted behavior it worked |
| 05:27.28 | RodOfNOD | save map |
| 05:27.34 | RodOfNOD | remove behavior |
| 05:27.39 | RodOfNOD | redo it |
| 05:27.41 | RodOfNOD | the whole thing |
| 05:27.48 | RodOfNOD | see if it fixes it |
| 05:28.19 | heysparky | well, I did a version of that, whihc was to try it with the un-altered reaper jump behavior |
| 05:28.22 | heysparky | made no difference |
| 05:28.27 | RodOfNOD | usually blizzards bugs are dropped linkage |
| 05:28.49 | RodOfNOD | they forget one tiny thing because they never think ur gonna do that ? why would u want to do that? no no dont do that |
| 05:29.27 | RodOfNOD | try doing the same thing with a completely new unit and behavior to test |
| 05:29.39 | heysparky | what unit? a new not-my queen unit? |
| 05:29.42 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 05:29.46 | RodOfNOD | just start brand new map |
| 05:29.50 | RodOfNOD | and see if u can make it happen |
| 05:30.02 | RodOfNOD | blizzard bugs are usually found that wasy cuz |
| 05:30.12 | heysparky | I'd rather go back to my backup method that worked |
| 05:30.14 | RodOfNOD | u know what u do that way and nothing else is complicating it |
| 05:30.18 | RodOfNOD | then do that |
| 05:30.32 | RodOfNOD | should take u like 10 minutes to reproduce what i just siad in a new map |
| 05:30.32 | heysparky | because recreating all of this stuff would be a hassle :) |
| 05:30.38 | heysparky | hahahahahaha |
| 05:30.43 | RodOfNOD | all ur trying to do is recreate that one thing |
| 05:30.47 | RodOfNOD | not everything |
| 05:30.51 | RodOfNOD | just the problem child |
| 05:30.58 | RodOfNOD | think of this way |
| 05:31.07 | heysparky | there's a lot of stuff involved |
| 05:31.07 | RodOfNOD | i want u to send me a map with your problem and only your prolbem |
| 05:31.16 | heysparky | if I fix it, how will I know what's broken if I dont' reproduce it |
| 05:31.17 | RodOfNOD | idc bout hit points |
| 05:31.26 | RodOfNOD | well if u DONT fix it |
| 05:31.28 | RodOfNOD | its probably a bug |
| 05:31.35 | RodOfNOD | if u do then u know its not and u can fix it |
| 05:31.45 | RodOfNOD | trust me KNOWING its not a bug is huge for ur brain |
| 05:31.47 | RodOfNOD | it will find it |
| 05:31.55 | heysparky | I believe you |
| 05:32.00 | RodOfNOD | i am a master at debugging |
| 05:32.07 | heysparky | but I'm saying to recreate my petri dish is lots of work |
| 05:32.20 | Squeegeez_ | will telling the map to define 750 things in the first seconds of the game be a bad thing RodOfNOD? =/ |
| 05:32.25 | RodOfNOD | i undrstand so just do the behavior and the requirement |
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| 05:32.30 | RodOfNOD | should take u 10 mins max |
| 05:32.39 | RodOfNOD | nope |
| 05:32.45 | RodOfNOD | i dont think so squeegeez |
| 05:32.45 | heysparky | lol, start timing |
| 05:32.55 | RodOfNOD | i had 100s of variables set in my risk map |
| 05:33.03 | RodOfNOD | and that was lowly wc3 |
| 05:33.09 | RodOfNOD | but if u do ull know |
| 05:33.34 | RodOfNOD | put a message at the end of the start after u change the melee init to run event after 0.0 secs |
| 05:33.37 | Squeegeez_ | i think i'll do it when there's not much going on (people selecting their avatars) |
| 05:33.41 | RodOfNOD | just to test |
| 05:33.47 | ekcolnovkol | THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GAY PEOPLE |
| 05:33.50 | ekcolnovkol | ./discuss |
| 05:33.50 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 05:33.54 | ekcolnovkol | hides |
| 05:34.04 | RodOfNOD | well i find myself quite happy all the time ekcolnovkol |
| 05:34.07 | RodOfNOD | :>P |
| 05:34.14 | ekcolnovkol | happiness is overrated :( |
| 05:34.20 | RodOfNOD | lol no its underrated |
| 05:34.21 | ekcolnovkol | weeps blood |
| 05:34.31 | TheLaughingMan | what is a 3ds file |
| 05:34.31 | RodOfNOD | sounds like u need to seee a DR |
| 05:34.46 | RodOfNOD | thats a file the model is made in from the model editor called 3dsmax |
| 05:34.50 | ekcolnovkol | hey rod |
| 05:34.58 | RodOfNOD | yes? |
| 05:34.59 | ekcolnovkol | you know if i can modify 3d portraits? |
| 05:35.02 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 05:35.06 | RodOfNOD | mofidy in what way? |
| 05:35.14 | ekcolnovkol | i just want to set the hydralisk on fire |
| 05:35.15 | RodOfNOD | man im so dislexic |
| 05:35.19 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 05:35.20 | ekcolnovkol | *dyslexic |
| 05:35.40 | RodOfNOD | well idk but i imagine the portrait is a model so in theory u could do that by redoing the portrait model |
| 05:35.47 | Alpha_vst | OK wtf |
| 05:35.48 | ekcolnovkol | anyone here can do that? |
| 05:35.49 | RodOfNOD | that too ekcolnovkol |
| 05:35.50 | ekcolnovkol | D: |
| 05:36.00 | RodOfNOD | sure Triceron could but it will cost u |
| 05:36.03 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 05:36.06 | ekcolnovkol | well |
| 05:36.08 | ekcolnovkol | in time ;) |
| 05:36.08 | RodOfNOD | he charges $$ |
| 05:36.12 | ekcolnovkol | he will want to do it for free |
| 05:36.17 | Alpha_vst | I have a issue |
| 05:36.17 | ekcolnovkol | weeps oil |
| 05:36.27 | Alpha_vst | im trying to set this variable |
| 05:36.27 | ekcolnovkol | lmao |
| 05:36.28 | ekcolnovkol | i read |
| 05:36.30 | RodOfNOD | sell the oil and voila u have a model |
| 05:36.31 | ekcolnovkol | "i have a tissue" |
| 05:36.34 | Alpha_vst | but its not saving? |
| 05:36.36 | Triceron | I charge handjobs |
| 05:36.42 | TheLaughingMan | Bah |
| 05:36.42 | RodOfNOD | ? |
| 05:36.58 | TheLaughingMan | I need help with 3DS Max |
| 05:37.01 | ekcolnovkol | i will have you do it for free >:) |
| 05:37.02 | ekcolnovkol | in time |
| 05:37.07 | ekcolnovkol | plots |
| 05:37.07 | RodOfNOD | i dont accept handjobs from gay men... make of it what u will hehe |
| 05:37.11 | Alpha_vst | my variable is set but if i move it it wipes it |
| 05:37.13 | TheLaughingMan | I have a model stored in a *.3ds file, how to I import i |
| 05:37.18 | Alpha_vst | and i cant reset it? |
| 05:37.22 | RodOfNOD | what do mean move it? |
| 05:37.34 | Triceron | you just... import it? |
| 05:37.38 | Triceron | into 3ds max |
| 05:37.39 | Alpha_vst | im puting it into a definition |
| 05:37.41 | TheLaughingMan | How? |
| 05:37.45 | Triceron | file import? |
| 05:37.48 | Alpha_vst | but even copyign it in the same trigger |
| 05:37.49 | TheLaughingMan | where? |
| 05:37.50 | Alpha_vst | fucks it |
| 05:37.52 | Triceron | file -> import |
| 05:37.56 | Triceron | next to edit |
| 05:38.03 | Triceron | you see that wierd symbol? |
| 05:38.04 | Triceron | that's file |
| 05:38.17 | RodOfNOD | can u paste a ss of ur issue Alpha_vst? |
| 05:38.24 | TheLaughingMan | Noes |
| 05:38.31 | TheLaughingMan | Improper file Format.. |
| 05:38.49 | RodOfNOD | wel maybe its not a 3ds file |
| 05:38.52 | Alpha_vst | cant really SS it |
| 05:38.53 | onetwo | TheLaughingMan |
| 05:38.54 | Triceron | sounds like a corrupt file or something |
| 05:38.56 | onetwo | why did you want my forum id back then |
| 05:39.11 | RodOfNOD | i just want to see what line of code ur talking about cuz ur not clear on it |
| 05:39.16 | Alpha_vst | its like its not accepting the data |
| 05:39.22 | RodOfNOD | just send me the snipet on pastebin |
| 05:39.24 | Alpha_vst | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:39.25 | Alpha_vst | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:39.38 | RodOfNOD | and what is bloodbmed? |
| 05:39.42 | RodOfNOD | unit? |
| 05:39.48 | Alpha_vst | abiltiy |
| 05:39.50 | Triceron | update time |
| 05:39.51 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/DH_02a.jpg |
| 05:40.03 | TheLaughingMan | Ok |
| 05:40.12 | RodOfNOD | ability command Alpha_vst? |
| 05:40.17 | TheLaughingMan | I need to fix the UVS in 3D3 Max, how do I do that? |
| 05:40.17 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 05:40.18 | onetwo | wow nice Triceron |
| 05:40.29 | RodOfNOD | what u doing with that old guy Triceron |
| 05:40.30 | onetwo | wtf laughing man tell me why!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:40.36 | Triceron | no clue, haven't UV'd in 3ds max before |
| 05:40.57 | Triceron | gonna throw the war3 anims on him and hopefully get him in game |
| 05:40.59 | TheLaughingMan | I just imported my custom ship model but the texture is off |
| 05:41.12 | onetwo | am i on laughing man's ignore list or something? |
| 05:41.19 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
| 05:41.25 | TheLaughingMan | Oh, I was just currious |
| 05:41.26 | Triceron | no further plans beyond that |
| 05:41.29 | onetwo | ah |
| 05:41.31 | Triceron | just taking a break from zerg dude |
| 05:41.32 | Alpha_vst | and the thing is RodOfNOD its using the data i already have set |
| 05:41.33 | onetwo | damn |
| 05:41.35 | Phaos | UVs in max are fuuuuun |
| 05:41.39 | TheLaughingMan | In blender I can fix it by flipping the UVS |
| 05:41.47 | Alpha_vst | but if i move it its like it becomes invalid to the trigger |
| 05:41.58 | Triceron | .3ds should save UV information |
| 05:42.06 | RodOfNOD | can u paste what it looks like when its invalid? |
| 05:42.11 | Phaos | select your model and in mod list add a "UV wrap" and then a "UV edit" |
| 05:42.20 | Triceron | .obj saves uv info for sure |
| 05:42.24 | Alpha_vst | i did RodOfNOD it just goes to value |
| 05:42.28 | TheLaughingMan | No |
| 05:42.37 | TheLaughingMan | The Game I am taking it from does it backwards |
| 05:42.39 | RodOfNOD | k let me try |
| 05:42.44 | RodOfNOD | u said abilitycommand data type? |
| 05:42.55 | TheLaughingMan | I have to manually flip the UVS data |
| 05:42.57 | Alpha_vst | even with default abilties |
| 05:43.05 | Alpha_vst | that have no target |
| 05:44.17 | RodOfNOD | k well i created a variable, i set var to it in the trigger to a known ability and then i copied it and it worked just fine |
| 05:44.18 | RodOfNOD | SO |
| 05:44.21 | RodOfNOD | u do the same |
| 05:44.23 | RodOfNOD | make a new var |
| 05:44.25 | Triceron | ahhh crap! |
| 05:44.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (48c97224@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.201.114.36) |
| 05:44.26 | RodOfNOD | and see what happens |
| 05:44.42 | Triceron | the demonhunter's tattoos are different on each side of his chest |
| 05:44.52 | Triceron | I only UV'd half of him >_< |
| 05:44.55 | onetwo | meh |
| 05:44.56 | Alpha_vst | yeah idono i restarted my editor just to see |
| 05:44.58 | onetwo | no one would care |
| 05:45.00 | onetwo | triceron |
| 05:45.37 | TheLaughingMan | Grr |
| 05:45.45 | TheLaughingMan | Needs to flip UV |
| 05:45.51 | RodOfNOD | well once again.. in wc3 they had a bug where if u undid something and then redid it it LOST the variable definition and it was permanent u had to recreate the variable from scratch |
| 05:45.53 | Triceron | guess I'll just have to BS it |
| 05:46.33 | Alpha_vst | yeah wtf |
| 05:46.37 | Alpha_vst | thats not working |
| 05:46.51 | RodOfNOD | hey Triceron grab a sailing ship for me and rip that water out :P |
| 05:47.01 | RodOfNOD | so nothing is working? |
| 05:47.03 | TheLaughingMan | Helps |
| 05:47.16 | Triceron | from war3? |
| 05:47.19 | RodOfNOD | alpha did u say u made a new var and u get same issue? |
| 05:47.19 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 05:47.22 | RodOfNOD | Triceron |
| 05:47.24 | Triceron | the ships don't come with water do they? |
| 05:47.27 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 05:47.28 | RodOfNOD | they do |
| 05:47.30 | Triceron | I thought thats a different decal |
| 05:47.31 | RodOfNOD | the splash |
| 05:47.33 | Triceron | huh |
| 05:47.36 | RodOfNOD | nope |
| 05:47.38 | RodOfNOD | part of the ship |
| 05:47.44 | RodOfNOD | flat plane deal |
| 05:48.01 | RodOfNOD | it shows up in the animation if i recall |
| 05:48.02 | Alpha_vst | WTF |
| 05:48.16 | RodOfNOD | do tell alpha |
| 05:48.21 | Phaos | Laughing man I told you how you can flip the UV |
| 05:48.23 | Phaos | :P |
| 05:48.38 | Phaos | your using 3ds max right ? |
| 05:48.51 | RodOfNOD | i think hes using 3ds min :P |
| 05:48.56 | TheLaughingMan | Yes |
| 05:48.58 | Alpha_vst | WOW i fixed it |
| 05:49.03 | Alpha_vst | do you know how? |
| 05:49.06 | TheLaughingMan | How? |
| 05:49.07 | RodOfNOD | nope |
| 05:49.13 | RodOfNOD | well yes cuz i have a camera in ur room |
| 05:49.16 | Alpha_vst | i cahnged it to any |
| 05:49.17 | RodOfNOD | but u dont know that so |
| 05:49.25 | ekcolnovkol | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.28 | RodOfNOD | u change what to any |
| 05:49.29 | ekcolnovkol | someone point me in right direction |
| 05:49.31 | Alpha_vst | before any didnt work |
| 05:49.33 | ekcolnovkol | 8 BEAMMMMMMMMMMMM |
| 05:49.39 | Alpha_vst | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.46 | RodOfNOD | and then back? |
| 05:49.49 | Alpha_vst | or all |
| 05:49.53 | Alpha_vst | no its on all |
| 05:50.11 | Alpha_vst | its working like it should be |
| 05:50.13 | Alpha_vst | 0.o |
| 05:50.18 | RodOfNOD | fun with bugs in ge |
| 05:51.05 | Alpha_vst | has to be a bug |
| 05:51.10 | TheLaughingMan | Phaos |
| 05:51.14 | RodOfNOD | ekcolnovkol pick search in the actions and put "terrain i think u ll see what u want at the tiop |
| 05:51.17 | ekcolnovkol | VM GUIZE |
| 05:51.19 | ekcolnovkol | i got it |
| 05:51.23 | ekcolnovkol | *nvm |
| 05:51.26 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 05:51.44 | RodOfNOD | i just love the new search |
| 05:51.48 | RodOfNOD | its so much better than wc3 |
| 05:51.55 | ekcolnovkol | also |
| 05:51.58 | ekcolnovkol | it's not in triggers |
| 05:52.04 | ekcolnovkol | you iz teh wrong :U |
| 05:52.09 | RodOfNOD | sure it is |
| 05:52.10 | heysparky | okay, time |
| 05:52.10 | ekcolnovkol | that modifies the height of a point |
| 05:52.18 | RodOfNOD | and? |
| 05:52.18 | heysparky | same exact problem |
| 05:52.24 | ekcolnovkol | not the actually terrain |
| 05:52.28 | ekcolnovkol | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/895-data-terrain-actors-how-to-do-live-otf-terrain-deformation/ |
| 05:52.34 | TheLaughingMan | Figured it ou |
| 05:52.37 | Phaos | select your model, selection modifications tab, in the list right click, add , uv unwarp, under that right click, add, uv edit |
| 05:52.41 | RodOfNOD | ooh so what did u do? |
| 05:52.50 | heysparky | which doesn't really prove anything to me other than it still might be implemented wrong |
| 05:53.54 | RodOfNOD | wow its using an actor to fuck with the terrain? |
| 05:54.11 | RodOfNOD | heysparky remind me what we were talkign about? |
| 05:54.26 | heysparky | using cargo to toggle an ability, in this case - cliff jumping |
| 05:54.28 | Phaos | UV unwrap just converts your model to 2d UV format and it looks like ass most of the time because the automatic algorithm sucks, uv edit lets you fix that :P |
| 05:54.36 | heysparky | (other behaviors, well, behave) |
| 05:54.41 | RodOfNOD | k so u have same problem in new map? |
| 05:54.44 | heysparky | yup |
| 05:54.49 | onetwo | wow this is good info |
| 05:54.56 | RodOfNOD | well then probablyu a bug :P |
| 05:54.56 | onetwo | UV has always been my weak area |
| 05:54.59 | onetwo | that i couldnt understand |
| 05:54.59 | heysparky | but like I say, that means to me that my implementation doesn't work |
| 05:55.06 | heysparky | no proof that it's a bug |
| 05:55.20 | ekcolnovkol | i don't see why terrain deformation is such a big deal |
| 05:55.23 | RodOfNOD | well if it works for other abilities |
| 05:55.25 | ekcolnovkol | it was easy in wc3 |
| 05:55.32 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 05:55.34 | RodOfNOD | it should work for that one |
| 05:55.47 | TheLaughingMan | Noes it crashed! |
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| 05:56.00 | heysparky | it's a different type of behavior than the others |
| 05:56.08 | BoltHead | Hello friends =) |
| 05:56.13 | heysparky | Jump, vs Spawn, Buff, Creep Source |
| 05:56.47 | heysparky | so far, my anecdotal experience leads me to believe that Jump behaviors can't be blocked or granted by requirements |
| 05:57.02 | heysparky | howdy Bolt |
| 05:57.37 | Alpha_vst | howdy boltedhead |
| 05:58.53 | RodOfNOD | hey its frankenstein! |
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| 06:00.15 | heysparky | finally, a programmer |
| 06:00.26 | heysparky | <.< |
| 06:00.28 | heysparky | ..> |
| 06:00.28 | RodOfNOD | no hes just a pro gammer |
| 06:00.47 | progammer | whats? |
| 06:00.51 | heysparky | or a grammar enthusiast with poor spelling |
| 06:00.56 | RodOfNOD | yes |
| 06:01.08 | RodOfNOD | or a pro gamer with poor spelling |
| 06:01.39 | progammer | i'm both with poor spelling |
| 06:01.41 | RodOfNOD | or maybe hes a progam mer and he forgot the c in merc? |
| 06:01.42 | heysparky | sure, Rod, that's better |
| 06:01.54 | RodOfNOD | hehe |
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| 06:02.37 | TheLaughingMan | PhAOS |
| 06:02.50 | TheLaughingMan | Where is the Selection Modifications Tab |
| 06:02.55 | RodOfNOD | so the ? ekcolnovkol is how do u undo the terrain deformation? |
| 06:02.58 | Phaos | just a mo |
| 06:03.06 | Phaos | I'm at work so doing two thigns at once\ |
| 06:05.29 | Phaos | :P |
| 06:05.33 | Phaos | Hokay!\ |
| 06:05.34 | Phaos | so |
| 06:06.02 | Phaos | I'm workign blind here since I don't have Max open infront of me, and being an artist I useually work off the pretty pictures infront of me |
| 06:06.03 | Phaos | BUT |
| 06:06.15 | Phaos | select the model you want a UV map of |
| 06:06.27 | TheLaughingMan | Got it |
| 06:06.38 | Phaos | in thetop right bar where all your informations are |
| 06:06.48 | Phaos | there is a modifications/edit/ what ever tab |
| 06:06.54 | TheLaughingMan | ok |
| 06:06.58 | Phaos | it's icon is a spanner |
| 06:07.13 | Phaos | if that doesn't work, name all the tabs along the tp and I will tell you what one it is :P |
| 06:07.16 | BoltHead | I like Husky's review of the MetalSlug map |
| 06:07.30 | TheLaughingMan | There is a Modify |
| 06:08.51 | Phaos | modify |
| 06:08.53 | Phaos | thats the one |
| 06:09.32 | Phaos | then at the top of that tab should be a littlewhite window with all your mods in it |
| 06:09.32 | Phaos | you should only have one. what kind of mesh it is (editable poly e.t.c) |
| 06:09.44 | TheLaughingMan | Editable Mesh |
| 06:09.49 | Phaos | right click that window underneath that entry, mouse over add, and put in a "uv unwrap" |
| 06:10.41 | TheLaughingMan | My model now has green lines |
| 06:10.56 | Phaos | thats teh one :D |
| 06:10.59 | Phaos | NOW |
| 06:11.01 | Fatal5101 | ~seen prozaicmuze |
| 06:11.03 | purl | prozaicmuze <~ABC@c-98-232-252-235.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 9h 41m 24s ago, saying: 'When I think mutations, I think of hot women with glowly blue eyes and laser beams coming out of their hands'. |
| 06:11.09 | Phaos | undeneath /that/ put in a uv edit |
| 06:11.57 | TheLaughingMan | UV Edit? |
| 06:12.16 | TheLaughingMan | I have UVW Map |
| 06:12.42 | RoarMan | Is Unit Selection broken? |
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| 06:16.22 | TheLaughingMan_ | Blah stupid internet |
| 06:17.45 | TheLaughingMan_ | This is getting annoying |
| 06:18.26 | RoarMan | Hallo TheLaughingMan_ |
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| 06:21.28 | TheLaughingMan | blah |
| 06:22.07 | onetwo | rash |
| 06:22.18 | TheLaughingMan | This is driving me bonkers! |
| 06:23.02 | RoarMan | Hai onetwo! |
| 06:24.09 | onetwo | hi |
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| 06:25.42 | onetwo | hi |
| 06:27.14 | TheLaughingMan | Phaos |
| 06:27.18 | heysparky_ | ? |
| 06:27.23 | onetwo | Phaos, you know when you extrude in 3ds max, the texture gets stretched |
| 06:27.28 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:27.34 | onetwo | any quic fix? |
| 06:27.53 | onetwo | extruding a face on an editable mesh that is |
| 06:29.34 | Phaos | yes it does |
| 06:29.44 | Phaos | you need to readjust the uv map |
| 06:29.46 | Phaos | aka |
| 06:29.52 | Phaos | delete the unwrap and reapply it |
| 06:29.55 | onetwo | oh |
| 06:30.13 | TheLaughingMan | Phaos can I just give you the files and you can take a look at it? |
| 06:30.14 | Phaos | and you'll have to recap me on your question laughingman I just opened the window again |
| 06:30.16 | onetwo | like i just make an object, extrude some faces, then drag a material onto it |
| 06:30.26 | onetwo | id have to do uv unwrapping? |
| 06:30.30 | Phaos | Won't be able to look at them till I'm home laughingman :( |
| 06:30.46 | Phaos | Oh heh. dynamic material right |
| 06:30.52 | TheLaughingMan | When do you get home? |
| 06:30.52 | Phaos | yes that will stretch it. |
| 06:31.02 | Phaos | it's because dynamic materials are applied on a per tri basis |
| 06:31.06 | onetwo | oh |
| 06:31.12 | Phaos | and your stretching the tris in that area |
| 06:31.15 | onetwo | i see |
| 06:31.24 | onetwo | the weird thing is that if i make a giant cylinder |
| 06:31.25 | onetwo | its fine |
| 06:31.29 | Phaos | I get home in ... 3 and a half hours |
| 06:31.32 | onetwo | but if i made it half size, then extruded the rest |
| 06:31.34 | Phaos | yeah it will be |
| 06:31.36 | onetwo | the top half is stretched |
| 06:31.38 | onetwo | annoying |
| 06:31.47 | Phaos | you can reapply the material and see if it auto corrects |
| 06:32.03 | Phaos | again it's one of those things I need to be sitting infront of the application for to remember correctly :P |
| 06:32.14 | onetwo | ah |
| 06:32.15 | TheLaughingMan | Phaos just to give you an idea, to reproduce what I want in Blender |
| 06:32.16 | onetwo | kk |
| 06:33.04 | TheLaughingMan | All I have to do technically is flip the UV Map |
| 06:33.26 | Phaos | Yah I know. you can do that through the UVedit mod |
| 06:33.39 | Phaos | wait... |
| 06:33.43 | TheLaughingMan | I can't find your UV Edit |
| 06:33.51 | Phaos | is your texture showing inside out? or is it literally on back to front ? |
| 06:34.02 | TheLaughingMan | I can't tell |
| 06:34.52 | TheLaughingMan | It kind of looks like the textures on the back of the ship should be in the front and vice versa |
| 06:37.52 | Phaos | hmmm thats probably because the Uv Is overlapping based on where it's sliced |
| 06:38.04 | Phaos | put that project on hold till i get home and I will help you out :) |
| 06:39.54 | TheLaughingMan | http://i47.tinypic.com/2nlzbm.png Is what it should look like |
| 06:40.50 | TheLaughingMan | http://i50.tinypic.com/5lxxza.png Is what it looks like |
| 06:41.08 | Phaos | that texture is awful dar |
| 06:41.10 | Phaos | k |
| 06:41.19 | heysparky | well great |
| 06:41.27 | heysparky | the method that worked in an older version of my map |
| 06:41.30 | heysparky | doesn't work any more |
| 06:41.44 | heysparky | I'm missing some piece of it, but I can't figure out which |
| 06:41.46 | heysparky | YARGH |
| 06:41.52 | Phaos | ok I know exactly how to fix that |
| 06:42.01 | Phaos | but I'll have to get home first :P |
| 06:42.09 | heysparky | :) |
| 06:42.10 | TheLaughingMan | Grr |
| 06:42.11 | Phaos | if you want to experiment yourself |
| 06:42.19 | Phaos | reapply that UVunwrap |
| 06:42.31 | Phaos | click the mod, and then chane the slice direction\ |
| 06:42.36 | Phaos | change* |
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| 06:42.52 | Turtlemsihu | ???????????????? |
| 06:43.07 | onetwo | ??? |
| 06:43.09 | Turtlemsihu | . |
| 06:43.12 | Phaos | the issue also is that the texture is different from the UV and it's likely that the UV is hand generated. which means you will never get it the same |
| 06:43.16 | onetwo | ..? |
| 06:43.32 | onetwo | that was fucking weird |
| 06:43.34 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:43.34 | Phaos | but I can help you get it about right |
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| 06:43.46 | Sixen_ | .. |
| 06:43.48 | onetwo | Sixen!!! |
| 06:43.55 | onetwo | or fake Sixen!!! |
| 06:44.02 | Sixen_ | ? |
| 06:44.03 | onetwo | i need the real Sixen |
| 06:44.12 | Sixen_ | i am fake sixen what can i do for you. |
| 06:44.20 | onetwo | meh wont cut it |
| 06:44.26 | Sixen_ | . |
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| 06:47.57 | Sixen_ | who wants to be a fake mod? |
| 06:50.02 | Squeegeez_ | RodOfNOD, how do i get an excell table to copy / paste into neat script. (It's telling me i can't compile, because i need enters in between lines), whats the command for a Return/Enter? |
| 06:50.28 | Sixen__ | Pie |
| 06:50.48 | RoarMan | Hi Squeegeez_! |
| 06:50.52 | Squeegeez_ | hey |
| 06:51.05 | RoarMan | Hi Siexen__! |
| 06:51.09 | Squeegeez_ | did you help me with something earlier? i can't remember what |
| 06:51.55 | RoarMan | Who ya talkin' too, Sixen or me? |
| 06:51.59 | RoarMan | CAUSE IT WASN'T ME D: |
| 06:52.02 | ekcolnovkol | your mother |
| 06:52.03 | ekcolnovkol | :O |
| 06:52.07 | RoarMan | EKCOLNOVKOL! |
| 06:52.12 | ekcolnovkol | O SNAP |
| 06:52.14 | RoarMan | MY SEXIEST FRIEND! |
| 06:52.15 | Squeegeez_ | i WAS talking to you, but not any more. It's over. |
| 06:52.22 | RoarMan | Squeegeez_ I' msorry D: |
| 06:52.26 | RoarMan | I DIDNT MEAN TO BE SO RUDE! |
| 06:52.27 | ekcolnovkol | roarman |
| 06:52.31 | ekcolnovkol | magic time :O |
| 06:52.38 | ekcolnovkol | i need to rape after a day of raping |
| 06:52.38 | RoarMan | Lol |
| 06:52.45 | ekcolnovkol | 5 completed heroes |
| 06:52.48 | ekcolnovkol | fully functional map |
| 06:52.52 | ekcolnovkol | and Husky's gonna do a review |
| 06:52.53 | Squeegeez_ | is there a / command for changing my name? |
| 06:52.59 | ekcolnovkol | weeps blood |
| 06:53.12 | ekcolnovkol | yes |
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| 06:53.32 | ekcolnovkol | idk why it's not working |
| 06:53.35 | RoarMan | ekcolnovkol grats man! |
| 06:53.38 | RoarMan | On your map ^^ |
| 06:53.42 | Squeegeez | there we go |
| 06:53.43 | Squeegeez | :D |
| 06:53.44 | RoarMan | LOL |
| 06:53.51 | Squeegeez_ | what's the command you goof? =P |
| 06:53.55 | Squeegeez | it's |
| 06:54.13 | ekcolnovkol | nick |
| 06:54.14 | ekcolnovkol | :U |
| 06:54.23 | ekcolnovkol | lewl |
| 06:54.34 | Squeegeez | the blasphemous underscore is gone! rejoice! |
| 06:55.01 | Squeegeez | I SAID REJOICE |
| 06:55.15 | RoarMan | Lol |
| 06:55.21 | ekcolnovkol | weeps blood |
| 06:55.32 | RoarMan | CELEBRATES GOOD TIMES C'MON! |
| 06:55.34 | Squeegeez | you really should get that checked out |
| 06:55.38 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 06:55.44 | RoarMan | I have majour parti-madness. |
| 06:55.49 | RoarMan | OH the bleeding. |
| 06:55.49 | RoarMan | Right. |
| 06:55.51 | RoarMan | <.< |
| 06:55.57 | ekcolnovkol | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmdnXXf9XdM |
| 06:56.01 | ekcolnovkol | i love this video |
| 06:56.31 | RoarMan | YOU SHOWED ME YESTERDAY |
| 06:56.36 | ekcolnovkol | yes |
| 06:56.39 | RoarMan | NOW LETS MWS DO IT UP! |
| 06:56.39 | ekcolnovkol | you must see again |
| 06:56.40 | ekcolnovkol | :D |
| 06:56.41 | ekcolnovkol | kay |
| 06:56.49 | RoarMan | :D |
| 06:56.55 | ekcolnovkol | same name |
| 06:57.20 | RoarMan | Game name? |
| 06:57.49 | ekcolnovkol | t2roecasual:D |
| 06:57.55 | RoarMan | Kk |
| 06:59.04 | TheLaughingMan | Phaos |
| 06:59.26 | TheLaughingMan | It seems like I need to rotate the UV 180 |
| 07:03.41 | heysparky | okay... one data task slain |
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| 07:05.20 | onetwo | husky's reviewing what? |
| 07:05.23 | TheLaughingMan_ | Phaos |
| 07:05.44 | TheLaughingMan_ | "The textures will already be aligned properly, but they will need to be flipped as Tri-Exporter flips the mesh when it extracts the model." |
| 07:11.08 | heysparky | data folkses |
| 07:11.35 | RoarMan | Heysparky! |
| 07:11.36 | heysparky | I need to create a behavior that increases hitpints |
| 07:11.37 | heysparky | howdy |
| 07:11.42 | TheLaughingMan_ | Phaos |
| 07:12.02 | heysparky | like a regen power |
| 07:12.52 | onetwo | behavior buff with modification of vitals regeneration? |
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| 07:13.08 | heysparky | it needs to be a behavior because of the way I'm granting these behaviors |
| 07:13.17 | heysparky | onetwo, I'm doing that, but it's not working |
| 07:13.36 | onetwo | what value are you giving it? |
| 07:13.39 | onetwo | my vital regen works in my map |
| 07:13.56 | Fatal5101 | dammit where is MUZE! |
| 07:14.20 | heysparky | how are you using it? |
| 07:14.57 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/DH_02b.jpg update! |
| 07:15.26 | onetwo | ah you fixed the cameltoe :) |
| 07:15.28 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:15.46 | onetwo | oh im doing it through attribute |
| 07:15.48 | onetwo | heysparky |
| 07:15.51 | onetwo | but should be the same |
| 07:15.53 | onetwo | for a modification |
| 07:15.57 | onetwo | buff |
| 07:16.01 | onetwo | make sure its set to Positive |
| 07:16.09 | heysparky | cool Triceron, the blindfold looks too thin, like a painted on mask |
| 07:16.22 | Phaos | TheLaughingMan you can change what direction the UV map applies by changing the slice direction from the UVunwrap mod |
| 07:16.26 | RoarMan | triceron that cool |
| 07:16.32 | Phaos | sorry for the slow reply :P |
| 07:16.39 | onetwo | and then under Modification+ -> Unit -> Vitals Regeneration Bonus -> set to w/e number you want |
| 07:16.41 | onetwo | its per second i believe |
| 07:17.02 | heysparky | yes, all done |
| 07:17.26 | heysparky | taking the requirement off of it to test |
| 07:17.37 | onetwo | requirement was probably your isseu |
| 07:17.38 | onetwo | issue |
| 07:17.41 | onetwo | brb recording tutorial |
| 07:17.45 | TheLaughingMan_ | Phaos can I email you the files so you can look at them when you get home? |
| 07:17.50 | RoarMan | What tut onetwo? |
| 07:18.05 | onetwo | items |
| 07:18.48 | RoarMan | Oh cool :P |
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| 07:19.03 | onetwo | im thinking maybe dialoges too |
| 07:19.06 | onetwo | but i dont know |
| 07:19.25 | Pierro | Hi all |
| 07:19.34 | onetwo | h |
| 07:19.35 | onetwo | i |
| 07:19.49 | RoarMan | Hi Pierro |
| 07:19.50 | BoltHead | well this is interesting... |
| 07:19.56 | BoltHead | I'm playing with Set height of unit... |
| 07:20.15 | heysparky | requirement is not the issue |
| 07:20.17 | heysparky | regen doesn't work |
| 07:20.27 | heysparky | as a behavior set on the queen |
| 07:20.53 | BoltHead | it seems to use the terrain height for the most part. But if you set it again while it is being moved the height is relitive to its current height... |
| 07:21.11 | onetwo | weird sparky |
| 07:21.12 | onetwo | i dont know then |
| 07:21.16 | onetwo | its probably some random field |
| 07:21.18 | onetwo | still set to something wrong |
| 07:21.25 | onetwo | make an attribute |
| 07:21.28 | onetwo | behavior |
| 07:21.31 | onetwo | set regen to some high number there |
| 07:21.35 | onetwo | and give it to queen |
| 07:21.45 | ekcolnovkol | roarman |
| 07:21.47 | ekcolnovkol | what are you working on |
| 07:21.50 | ekcolnovkol | because idk |
| 07:21.52 | onetwo | heysparky |
| 07:21.55 | RoarMan | An AoS/Hero Arena :P |
| 07:22.04 | ekcolnovkol | oh so you're my DIRECT COMPETITOR |
| 07:22.07 | RoarMan | LOL |
| 07:22.16 | RoarMan | My AoS is for jokes, 64x64 map size :D |
| 07:22.33 | onetwo | lol still |
| 07:22.37 | RoarMan | :D |
| 07:22.40 | onetwo | ekcolnovkol is going to try and blow your operation |
| 07:22.41 | ekcolnovkol | i will rage like Jesus Christ at the marketplace |
| 07:22.41 | onetwo | out of the water |
| 07:22.45 | ekcolnovkol | how so |
| 07:22.46 | ekcolnovkol | :o |
| 07:22.47 | RoarMan | LOL |
| 07:22.51 | onetwo | its like walmart crushing mini stores |
| 07:22.55 | ekcolnovkol | lol right |
| 07:22.58 | RoarMan | WHOA I CAN COMPETE |
| 07:22.58 | ekcolnovkol | I'M NOT SCARED OF YOU |
| 07:23.04 | RoarMan | I HAVE A MOTHERTRUCKIN CUSTOM LOADING SCREEN |
| 07:23.06 | RoarMan | AND ITS FUCKIN PEEMP |
| 07:23.12 | ekcolnovkol | WELL |
| 07:23.15 | onetwo | how much space are custom load screen images generally? |
| 07:23.16 | ekcolnovkol | MY LOADING SCREEN IS ANIMATED |
| 07:23.18 | onetwo | must be tga? |
| 07:23.21 | RoarMan | Mine is 500kb I tihnk. |
| 07:23.24 | RoarMan | .tga or .dds |
| 07:23.25 | ekcolnovkol | IT'S GOT THIS GREEN BAR |
| 07:23.27 | ekcolnovkol | AT THE BOTTOM |
| 07:23.29 | RoarMan | Lol |
| 07:23.29 | ekcolnovkol | THAT SLOWLY FILLS UP |
| 07:23.29 | onetwo | which compresses better? |
| 07:23.40 | ekcolnovkol | AND WHEN IT'S FULL |
| 07:23.40 | RoarMan | I think .dds does, you have to turn off mipmap though. |
| 07:23.41 | ekcolnovkol | BAM |
| 07:23.43 | ekcolnovkol | THE GAME BEGINS |
| 07:23.44 | onetwo | k |
| 07:23.47 | RoarMan | Someone taught me, forget who <.< |
| 07:23.55 | RoarMan | EKCO BOYEE ITS AWN. |
| 07:24.30 | ekcolnovkol | GHANDI SAID IT BEST "DIEEE MUTTHAFUKKAZ" |
| 07:24.37 | RoarMan | LOL |
| 07:24.42 | ekcolnovkol | as he sprayed his tommy gun |
| 07:24.43 | RoarMan | NO HE DIDNT |
| 07:24.52 | RoarMan | That was Scarface dumb dumb. |
| 07:25.02 | ekcolnovkol | pretty sure it was ghandi |
| 07:25.08 | RoarMan | Or possibly someoen from the Godfather. |
| 07:25.16 | RoarMan | Although I don't think anyone screams Die muthafuckas. |
| 07:25.47 | ekcolnovkol | i'm pretty sure the guy in left for dead on the wii does |
| 07:25.50 | ekcolnovkol | i mean |
| 07:25.52 | ekcolnovkol | house of the dead |
| 07:25.54 | ekcolnovkol | for wii |
| 07:25.57 | ekcolnovkol | that black dude |
| 07:26.14 | ekcolnovkol | that game is so racist you won't even believe |
| 07:26.15 | RoarMan | Lol |
| 07:26.23 | RoarMan | Lol I've never seen it before ;P |
| 07:26.31 | ekcolnovkol | youtube it |
| 07:29.06 | allenmelon | i know some about data editing, so will someone give me an idea to test/challenge me? |
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| 07:29.33 | RoarMan | Hmm. |
| 07:29.40 | RoarMan | allenmelon create a frag grenade. |
| 07:29.42 | RoarMan | I donno. |
| 07:29.48 | allenmelon | 0.o |
| 07:29.49 | RoarMan | An explosion that splits into littler ones. |
| 07:29.50 | allenmelon | that sounds hard... |
| 07:30.02 | allenmelon | im noob |
| 07:30.08 | RoarMan | Lol you just have to make periodic effect that target areas around the initial impact. |
| 07:30.11 | RoarMan | oh <.< |
| 07:30.23 | RoarMan | I'sok I fail at mapping too :P |
| 07:30.33 | allenmelon | i just know basics |
| 07:30.42 | allenmelon | i know how to switch weapons/abilities |
| 07:30.51 | allenmelon | damage, range, period, etc |
| 07:31.00 | ekcolnovkol | parrapa the rappa |
| 07:31.01 | allenmelon | but not much else |
| 07:31.03 | ekcolnovkol | i miss that game |
| 07:31.06 | ekcolnovkol | "LEFT" |
| 07:31.07 | ekcolnovkol | "RIGHT" |
| 07:31.13 | ekcolnovkol | oooOOOHHHH "DOWN" |
| 07:32.04 | RoarMan | What. |
| 07:32.12 | Phaos | TheLaughingMan, go ahead and send them to roryhalexander @ gmail . com |
| 07:33.10 | ekcolnovkol | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eZcV1UuUzI |
| 07:34.26 | heysparky | didn't work onetwo |
| 07:39.07 | BoltHead | wow i'm beginning to think that Timers may make an great substitute for periodics =) |
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| 07:39.13 | BoltHead | muhaha =) |
| 07:40.41 | Phaos | Don't rely on timers |
| 07:40.51 | Phaos | they are intensive for computation |
| 07:42.09 | BoltHead | do you have a differant time keeping idea? |
| 07:42.25 | Phaos | periodic :P |
| 07:42.40 | BoltHead | i think thats worse for my circumstance |
| 07:42.48 | Phaos | what are you trying to do ? |
| 07:43.09 | BoltHead | well I want to control a units height with a button press |
| 07:43.33 | BoltHead | so when I hold the button down I want it to keep moving up |
| 07:43.44 | BoltHead | and when I release the button I want it to stop right away |
| 07:43.45 | Pierro | what do you have to do tu increase the size of the invetory window ? |
| 07:44.06 | BoltHead | Problem is since I'm modifying a units height over X seconds |
| 07:44.21 | Phaos | so a periodic is perfect then |
| 07:44.24 | BoltHead | if you modify the height again during that time it bugs up |
| 07:44.46 | Phaos | 0.3 seconds, is button pressed? move unit x |
| 07:44.50 | BoltHead | I want to stop it by setting its height to its current |
| 07:45.52 | BoltHead | well how do I make sure it stops when I want it to? |
| 07:46.14 | BoltHead | do I just need to make sure the time matches the periodic? |
| 07:46.29 | BoltHead | ... guess i should jsut try that |
| 07:47.13 | BoltHead | ohhh and now i remember why I didn't do that already lol |
| 07:47.34 | BoltHead | cause its part of a function that calculates the time used based on the distance it will go |
| 07:47.49 | BoltHead | meh... |
| 07:49.53 | BoltHead | back to Periodic vs Timer... If it is periodic it will always keep checking the conditions. But if is a timer then it will not keep checking the conditions but will only do it while unit is changing heights... |
| 07:53.39 | Pierro | Hey guys how can I set an ability button to be hidden unless the unit has a behavior on it ? |
| 07:53.47 | heysparky | okay... I've figure out one part |
| 07:53.55 | heysparky | I can get energy to regen |
| 07:53.57 | heysparky | but not life |
| 07:54.01 | heysparky | I don't understand it |
| 07:54.07 | heysparky | but there you go |
| 07:54.25 | Pierro | what do you want to do heysparky ? |
| 07:55.07 | heysparky | get a behavior to regen life |
| 07:55.13 | heysparky | well, life and energy |
| 07:55.18 | Pierro | ok go behav |
| 07:55.20 | heysparky | having some trouble with it |
| 07:55.25 | Pierro | the effect modify unit |
| 07:55.32 | Pierro | you wxant to do an aura ? |
| 07:56.07 | Pierro | So if you want to set regen rate it is behavior buff under modify field |
| 07:56.13 | Pierro | if you want to do direct heal |
| 07:56.19 | Pierro | it is the effect modify unit |
| 07:56.22 | Pierro | and voila |
| 07:56.28 | Pierro | if you want to do aoe heal |
| 07:56.33 | Pierro | search effect |
| 07:56.39 | Pierro | then modify effect |
| 07:56.51 | Pierro | If you want to do an aoe regen spell |
| 07:57.01 | heysparky | I don't need a search, it's just a regen buff on a single unit |
| 07:57.06 | Pierro | search effect > apply behvior effect > behavior that regen |
| 07:57.11 | Pierro | ok then |
| 07:57.16 | Pierro | abilit instant |
| 07:57.17 | heysparky | and, because of the way I'm initiating it, it needs to be a behavior |
| 07:57.19 | Pierro | behavior |
| 07:57.30 | Pierro | modifiy regen rate |
| 07:57.50 | Pierro | you want it to be targeted or instant |
| 07:57.57 | heysparky | can you think why energy would work, but life wouldn't? |
| 07:57.58 | Pierro | Set the ability as you wish |
| 07:58.04 | Pierro | life works |
| 07:58.09 | Pierro | I did a spell |
| 07:58.16 | heysparky | I believe that it works for you |
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| 07:58.32 | heysparky | it doesn't for me and it should |
| 07:58.37 | heysparky | is there something wonky about life? |
| 07:58.46 | Pierro | lol |
| 07:58.51 | Pierro | ok then |
| 07:58.56 | Pierro | make a buff type behavior |
| 07:59.08 | Pierro | then set it last for 1 sec |
| 07:59.17 | Pierro | set the number of period to 1 |
| 07:59.37 | Pierro | no better way set the duration to 0.5 |
| 07:59.42 | Pierro | and effect final |
| 07:59.48 | Pierro | put a modify effect here |
| 08:00.00 | heysparky | hmmm, I think I know what it might be |
| 08:00.04 | Pierro | however you should use an effect target |
| 08:00.07 | heysparky | I have a long regen delay |
| 08:00.11 | heysparky | it may be waiting that out |
| 08:00.18 | Pierro | hmm regen rate |
| 08:00.28 | Pierro | just use the behavior then |
| 08:00.45 | Pierro | ChampCommandCenterContainer Emplacements +(|||||||||):(Aucun|Aucun|Aucun|Aucun|Aucun|Aucun|Aucun|Aucun|Aucun|Aucun):(Désactivé|Désactivé|Désactivé|Désactivé|Désactivé|Désactivé|Désactivé|Désactivé|Désactivé|Désactivé):(0|1|2|3|4|0|1|2|3|4):(0|0|0|0|0|1|1|1|1|1) |
| 08:01.16 | Pierro | well strange howeer |
| 08:01.33 | heysparky | aha |
| 08:01.35 | heysparky | that was it |
| 08:02.02 | heysparky | it was waiting out the regen delay (was a minute and then very fast) |
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| 08:02.10 | Pierro | ah |
| 08:04.15 | Pierro | omg |
| 08:04.31 | Pierro | the more i advance in my building system the more it looks like sims |
| 08:04.52 | Pierro | hmm at least it is working |
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| 08:11.59 | Helral | meow |
| 08:13.00 | Clord | meow meow |
| 08:13.50 | Clord | time to make my card work... units on field gain +100% hit points... but only if they are already there |
| 08:14.53 | Clord | it makes "wall cards" really nasty |
| 08:14.54 | Clord | ^^ |
| 08:20.15 | onetwo | Fuck Maul |
| 08:20.22 | onetwo | i had a brilliant response |
| 08:20.25 | onetwo | and you slided in before me |
| 08:20.28 | Maul | its ok |
| 08:20.33 | onetwo | lol |
| 08:20.35 | Maul | people will still watch |
| 08:20.38 | Maul | oblivious |
| 08:20.41 | onetwo | :D |
| 08:21.02 | `3ICE | not after my comment |
| 08:21.04 | onetwo | Sixen is missing! |
| 08:21.18 | onetwo | damn 3ice |
| 08:21.18 | onetwo | haha |
| 08:21.20 | `3ICE | :P |
| 08:21.31 | onetwo | ive been waiting to make a post on bnet forums all day |
| 08:21.34 | onetwo | sixen keeps disappearing |
| 08:21.39 | onetwo | anyone else want to read |
| 08:21.41 | onetwo | http://pastebin.com/UtRddDTa |
| 08:21.46 | onetwo | add any things...? |
| 08:22.05 | Maul | reading but why are you waiting for sixen? |
| 08:22.46 | onetwo | cause he's made blizzard-responded bnet posts |
| 08:22.50 | onetwo | im hoping his touch on my post |
| 08:22.54 | onetwo | will make it garner some attention |
| 08:23.03 | onetwo | my stuff usually gets ignored because everyone agrees and thus never replies |
| 08:23.04 | onetwo | or argues |
| 08:23.04 | Maul | oic |
| 08:23.08 | Maul | hehe |
| 08:23.17 | onetwo | lol |
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| 08:24.03 | MUffinsharkturtl | DEEEER!!!! |
| 08:24.12 | MUffinsharkturtl | DEER! |
| 08:24.33 | `3ICE | http://pastebin.com/UtRddDTa is great. |
| 08:24.37 | MUffinsharkturtl | deer? |
| 08:24.47 | MUffinsharkturtl | and paste it.. |
| 08:25.27 | `3ICE | MUffinsharkturtl this is for you: http://pastebin.com/JSGMSm6e |
| 08:25.35 | Maul | on point 3 the battlecraft had that advantage |
| 08:25.40 | MUffinsharkturtl | ... |
| 08:25.45 | Maul | 4 players (fun map) and games lasted <5 mins |
| 08:25.53 | MUffinsharkturtl | Amazing. |
| 08:26.02 | onetwo | yeah |
| 08:26.04 | onetwo | exactly |
| 08:26.13 | Maul | it was almost always #1 |
| 08:26.16 | onetwo | yepo |
| 08:27.07 | Maul | i think the popularity system is a good concept but games per hour is a bad way to determine it |
| 08:27.26 | onetwo | aye |
| 08:27.32 | onetwo | so you think i should post it? any modifications? |
| 08:27.33 | onetwo | or additions |
| 08:27.35 | Maul | number of players per hour might be better |
| 08:27.38 | `3ICE | popularity should be a secondary sort only |
| 08:27.43 | MUffinsharkturtl | Wait |
| 08:27.45 | `3ICE | we need currently-being-hosted-by-someone |
| 08:27.45 | BoltHead | how do I convert a time to an integer? I'm missing something |
| 08:27.45 | onetwo | agreed |
| 08:27.47 | Sixen | hai |
| 08:27.51 | Sixen | sorry |
| 08:28.17 | `3ICE | sure go ahead and post it |
| 08:28.29 | `3ICE | by the way once phase 2 starts hopefully it will be obsolete |
| 08:28.31 | `3ICE | all problems fixed |
| 08:28.32 | MUffinsharkturtl | Replace friend and map with nigger. |
| 08:28.41 | MUffinsharkturtl | ... |
| 08:28.44 | onetwo | Sixen |
| 08:28.46 | onetwo | were discussing |
| 08:28.47 | onetwo | the post |
| 08:28.57 | onetwo | yeah 3Ice |
| 08:28.59 | onetwo | im hoping for that |
| 08:29.34 | BoltHead | I can't figure out how to display value of a timer in a text |
| 08:30.19 | onetwo | :( |
| 08:30.21 | MUffinsharkturtl | any 3ds maxfags here? |
| 08:30.44 | BoltHead | anyone know how? |
| 08:31.17 | MUffinsharkturtl | http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6745/33833748.jpg |
| 08:31.52 | Sixen | bolthead, one sec. |
| 08:31.56 | onetwo | LOL wow Muffin |
| 08:31.58 | onetwo | you are Martul |
| 08:32.02 | MUffinsharkturtl | ? |
| 08:32.05 | MUffinsharkturtl | martul? |
| 08:32.07 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 08:32.08 | RoarMan | Hi guys! |
| 08:32.12 | `3ICE | Actually that question is pwn. |
| 08:32.16 | RoarMan | Hey BoltHead. |
| 08:32.18 | `3ICE | Someone should answer it. |
| 08:32.21 | RoarMan | Hi `3ICE! |
| 08:32.24 | BoltHead | hey =) |
| 08:32.25 | MUffinsharkturtl | whats martul? |
| 08:32.27 | RoarMan | Hey onetwo <3 |
| 08:32.31 | RoarMan | HAI SIXEN! |
| 08:32.31 | onetwo | hi |
| 08:32.36 | `3ICE | teh. who are you? |
| 08:32.43 | Helral | Muffin: isn't there a simpel rotating tool which you can use to rotate the object over the X, Y, Z axes? |
| 08:32.44 | RoarMan | I just say high to everyone. |
| 08:32.45 | RoarMan | :D |
| 08:32.49 | RoarMan | HI HELRARL! |
| 08:32.50 | MUffinsharkturtl | no |
| 08:32.53 | `3ICE | 'cause you are high |
| 08:32.54 | MUffinsharkturtl | its |
| 08:33.00 | RoarMan | How did you know. |
| 08:33.00 | Sixen | ah |
| 08:33.10 | Sixen | BoltHead, are you looking for the Game Time or a custom timer? |
| 08:33.15 | Sixen | hai roarman |
| 08:33.19 | BoltHead | its a custom timer |
| 08:33.20 | RoarMan | Yoyo. |
| 08:33.20 | `3ICE | [2010-06-30 10:36:15] <RoarMan> I just high to |
| 08:33.25 | RoarMan | Lol |
| 08:33.27 | RoarMan | Wtf |
| 08:33.28 | RoarMan | Lies. |
| 08:33.33 | `3ICE | misquoted |
| 08:33.33 | Sixen | Not sure then, =| |
| 08:33.43 | RoarMan | Lol |
| 08:33.44 | BoltHead | .... crazy huh?... |
| 08:33.44 | `3ICE | BoltHead it should be easy... let me check |
| 08:33.54 | BoltHead | i know... |
| 08:34.02 | `3ICE | since patch 14 my editor takes 30 sec to open :( |
| 08:34.07 | `3ICE | before it was 10sec |
| 08:34.37 | BoltHead | 14? i thought 13 was the last |
| 08:34.39 | Helral | Bolthead: display timer window? |
| 08:34.54 | BoltHead | no i want to display the current timer value in a text |
| 08:35.13 | `3ICE | convert time to text |
| 08:35.37 | MUffinsharkturtl | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.38 | BoltHead | thats not an option on the conversions i'm looking at |
| 08:36.18 | BoltHead | there is a format duration |
| 08:36.22 | BoltHead | but that ask for an interger |
| 08:36.36 | onetwo | look for Real |
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| 08:36.40 | onetwo | i think timers are Reals |
| 08:36.42 | `3ICE | yup its in reals |
| 08:37.00 | `3ICE | "Elapsed time of timer" |
| 08:37.07 | BoltHead | oh yeah convert time to text, as for a integer to |
| 08:37.23 | `3ICE | you also have access to remaining time and duration of timer |
| 08:37.25 | MUffinsharkturtl | dose anyone els see my last post? |
| 08:37.27 | Helral | not "Remaining Time of Timer? |
| 08:37.33 | Helral | ;p |
| 08:37.41 | `3ICE | yeah remaining |
| 08:37.48 | BoltHead | ohh interesting i didn't expect the timer to be a real |
| 08:38.01 | Helral | how else should it monitor ms? |
| 08:38.14 | `3ICE | variable type time? :D |
| 08:38.16 | slightlyrandom | Generally, if you can't find something that should obviously be there, its a real instead of an integer, or the other way around |
| 08:38.36 | BoltHead | well I thought it just counted integer seconds or even integer mili... but yeah... ok =) |
| 08:38.37 | `3ICE | or text instead of string... :( |
| 08:38.42 | Helral | you can always just pop open a conditions bit and just search for what you want. |
| 08:38.43 | heysparky | gnight folks |
| 08:38.50 | Helral | nn sparky. |
| 08:38.52 | BoltHead | I got it now thanks =) |
| 08:38.52 | slightlyrandom | GOod morning |
| 08:38.56 | `3ICE | np np |
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| 08:39.08 | MUffinsharkturtl | http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6745/33833748.jpg |
| 08:39.17 | MUffinsharkturtl | its wonky cant use snap |
| 08:39.30 | slightlyrandom | Tried throwing bricks at it MUffinsharkturtl ? |
| 08:39.43 | `3ICE | No, that'd break it! |
| 08:39.44 | MUffinsharkturtl | no |
| 08:39.48 | `3ICE | Use a spatula. |
| 08:39.58 | MUffinsharkturtl | you mean at my monitor? |
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| 08:40.04 | `3ICE | Carefully poke the hat until it falls down. |
| 08:40.49 | MUffinsharkturtl | ? |
| 08:40.52 | MUffinsharkturtl | im confus |
| 08:42.15 | Helral | Muffin: the hat is floating isn't it? |
| 08:42.20 | MUffinsharkturtl | um |
| 08:42.26 | slightlyrandom | Anti-gravity! |
| 08:42.27 | MUffinsharkturtl | no? |
| 08:42.41 | slightlyrandom | Are you trying to fix it with the data editor, or with triggers ? |
| 08:42.44 | Helral | ahhh, that's why 3ICE's idea doesn't work ;p |
| 08:42.57 | MUffinsharkturtl | ... |
| 08:43.03 | MUffinsharkturtl | with 3ds max |
| 08:43.11 | `3ICE | umm... my idea works fine |
| 08:43.13 | MUffinsharkturtl | lol wat?! |
| 08:43.15 | `3ICE | it floats downwards |
| 08:43.23 | `3ICE | if you poke the top with a spatula |
| 08:43.24 | Helral | you prolly have to do it manually the positioning. |
| 08:43.33 | slightlyrandom | `3ICE: I think he is in a low or non-gravity situation |
| 08:43.47 | `3ICE | you dont need gravity for something to move |
| 08:43.55 | Helral | 3ICE: I think it's stuck in a cube of solid ice.... |
| 08:44.01 | MUffinsharkturtl | nah |
| 08:44.02 | `3ICE | that could be a problem. |
| 08:44.02 | MUffinsharkturtl | .. |
| 08:44.13 | slightlyrandom | I'll get the hairdryer |
| 08:44.24 | slightlyrandom | Or is it diamonice ? |
| 08:44.28 | slightlyrandom | diamondice* |
| 08:44.42 | `3ICE | why don't you model a head under the hat, create a "nod" animation for the head, attach the hat to the head, make the head nod and then detach the hat at the right moment? |
| 08:45.13 | MUffinsharkturtl | lol |
| 08:45.16 | `3ICE | simplest solution :) |
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| 08:46.01 | `3ICE | someone buy me a 2000$ laptop |
| 08:46.05 | `3ICE | studio17 from dell |
| 08:46.07 | MUffinsharkturtl | sur. |
| 08:46.47 | MUffinsharkturtl | lets tell black people jokes! |
| 08:46.48 | MUffinsharkturtl | :) |
| 08:46.51 | MUffinsharkturtl | ... |
| 08:47.08 | onetwo | ~seen Martul |
| 08:47.09 | purl | martul <~chatzilla@unaffiliated/martul> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 29d 7h 41m 15s ago, saying: 'and still no one'. |
| 08:47.09 | Phaos | BAD 3ICE |
| 08:47.10 | Phaos | NO crappy dell laptop for you >: | |
| 08:47.15 | MUffinsharkturtl | why are are black people fast? |
| 08:47.23 | MUffinsharkturtl | at running |
| 08:47.35 | MUffinsharkturtl | ... |
| 08:47.35 | `3ICE | Because they have two legs and we don't. |
| 08:47.41 | MUffinsharkturtl | no |
| 08:47.48 | MUffinsharkturtl | beacause all the slow ones are in jail |
| 08:47.50 | MUffinsharkturtl | lol? |
| 08:48.00 | `3ICE | i like that joke. |
| 08:48.15 | MUffinsharkturtl | .. |
| 08:50.12 | RoarMan | LOL |
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| 08:50.39 | slightlyrandom | I heard that joke before, but with lions instead of jail |
| 08:50.48 | slightlyrandom | That joke had the added benefit of being true |
| 08:51.41 | BoltHead | I have a camera set to follow a unit, Is there a way to make the camera not try to auto correct itself when your near cliffs? |
| 08:51.52 | slightlyrandom | Smart somethingsomething ? |
| 08:51.54 | `3ICE | there is |
| 08:52.10 | slightlyrandom | camera follow |
| 08:52.12 | Pierro | Guys this is serious business !! I forgot how to make an ability to be active (Mean clickable) when a unit is near. In fact I forgot how to set the ability to be deactivated on start |
| 08:52.12 | slightlyrandom | thing |
| 08:52.27 | slightlyrandom | Behavior, requirement |
| 08:52.31 | slightlyrandom | That sort of stuff |
| 08:52.46 | BoltHead | in data editor i take it? |
| 08:52.58 | Pierro | no I mean how to check that ability is not shown unitl the behvior is here |
| 08:53.02 | slightlyrandom | Did you set the camera in the data editor? |
| 08:53.30 | BoltHead | I have a camera I made in the terrain |
| 08:53.32 | slightlyrandom | I'm thinking you can define a requirement as something like "Must be near unit" or something similar |
| 08:53.35 | BoltHead | terrain editor |
| 08:53.45 | slightlyrandom | and then define the ability to require that requirement to be true |
| 08:53.48 | slightlyrandom | or false |
| 08:53.50 | slightlyrandom | as the case may be |
| 08:54.46 | BoltHead | when you apply a cam for a player does the default become that camera? Or does it just stop viewing the default? |
| 09:02.14 | Repo | 10yabot: 03xorpwnz * r78 YABOT/ (15 files in 2 directories): [1] removing units for player 3 on reset |
| 09:02.16 | Repo | [2] added upgrade: centrifugal hooks |
| 09:02.17 | Repo | [3] fixed walloff detection |
| 09:02.19 | Repo | [4] updated build orders |
| 09:02.37 | MUffinsharkturtl | Has anyone really been far evas as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
| 09:03.22 | Repo | 10yabot: 03xorpwnz 04Development v0.1.8.1 * r79 : Tagging as v0.1.8.1 |
| 09:03.24 | slightlyrandom | Yes and no |
| 09:03.46 | MUffinsharkturtl | . |
| 09:03.52 | BoltHead | I'm trying to figure out what camera in the data editor I need to edit... |
| 09:04.40 | Repo | 10yabot: 03xorpwnz 04v0.1.8.1 * r80 : Tagging as v0.1.8.1 |
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| 09:15.15 | slightlyrandom | Beider: Your tutorials are quite awesome |
| 09:16.50 | Sixen | :P |
| 09:19.23 | BoltHead | hey Sixen |
| 09:19.45 | Sixen | hai2u |
| 09:19.46 | BoltHead | do you now how to Make it so the camera doesn't adjust with the terrain and cliffs when following units? |
| 09:20.20 | Sixen | you'd probably have to move the camera manually |
| 09:20.35 | Sixen | onetwo, any idea |
| 09:20.36 | Sixen | ? |
| 09:20.47 | `3ICE | we already solved this camera issue last week |
| 09:20.51 | `3ICE | who saves logs? |
| 09:20.52 | onetwo | oh |
| 09:20.55 | onetwo | data editor? |
| 09:20.57 | onetwo | probably |
| 09:20.58 | onetwo | i forget |
| 09:21.01 | onetwo | someone did solve it though |
| 09:21.25 | BoltHead | they told me some stuff but I have no idea which camera to modify |
| 09:21.32 | `3ICE | i remember suggesting something like "talk to the cameraman and ban him for noclip-hacking" |
| 09:21.38 | BoltHead | and I'm not seeing any differances on any thing i'm trying |
| 09:22.17 | BoltHead | slightlyrandom was trying to tell me something up there... |
| 09:22.33 | slightlyrandom | Naw, that was aimed at that other guiy |
| 09:22.35 | slightlyrandom | guy* |
| 09:22.56 | BoltHead | ok nm then i was just ignored all this time |
| 09:22.58 | Sixen | Sorry. My family has been over visiting, I haven't done much lately :X |
| 09:23.04 | onetwo | k posted |
| 09:23.04 | BoltHead | lol |
| 09:23.05 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25626455352&postId=256239699201&sid=3000#0 |
| 09:23.06 | slightlyrandom | haha, sorry, I havent a clue about cameras |
| 09:24.01 | slightlyrandom | I will sometimes ask clarifying questions, though, to seem smarter than I am and prompt other guys to hopefully jump in and save me |
| 09:27.57 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 09:28.00 | Fisker | i deserve a medal |
| 09:28.10 | Fisker | enabled parental controls on my own account and now you can't disable it |
| 09:28.11 | Fisker | :3 |
| 09:28.21 | `3ICE | pins a Medal of Awesomeness on Fisker's chest. |
| 09:29.54 | onetwo | haha fun i autotuned my voice |
| 09:29.56 | onetwo | on my tutorial |
| 09:29.59 | onetwo | not for final |
| 09:30.00 | onetwo | though |
| 09:30.06 | onetwo | *deletes* |
| 09:30.22 | Sixen | lol |
| 09:30.31 | BoltHead | onetwo... it makes you sad when people don't belive you are who you are when you join your own maps? |
| 09:30.41 | onetwo | yes |
| 09:30.43 | onetwo | i want pride |
| 09:30.45 | BoltHead | That always made me laugh |
| 09:30.50 | `3ICE | I usually smurf my own maps. |
| 09:30.53 | onetwo | i had it happen |
| 09:31.04 | onetwo | i want people to know |
| 09:31.06 | `3ICE | Was easy for war3, jsut make a new acc and host the map |
| 09:31.08 | onetwo | the creator is Mufuckin here |
| 09:31.14 | `3ICE | For sc2 it will be a problem. |
| 09:31.20 | BoltHead | cause I used to have it happen all the time and I would even make fake accounts so people would start yelling at me for being fake cause I thought it was funny |
| 09:31.27 | Sixen | Lawl |
| 09:31.53 | `3ICE | i find that people are more honest if i dont host my maps as 3ICE. |
| 09:32.14 | `3ICE | and it cuts down on the "omg you made this map" and "nice map" spam. |
| 09:32.18 | BoltHead | but generally I'd just be like... whatever, you will find out later when I demonstrate my unreal knowledge of this map... such as exact edges of regions ect |
| 09:32.22 | *** topic/#sc2mapster by Sixen -> #sc2mapster http://sc2mapster.com/ | Post Bugs/Errors/Feedback with GE in our forums! | Patch 14-16 Undocumented Editor Changes: http://bit.ly/9zWrph | Creature Contest: http://bit.ly/bbPDQP | Idle in #MWE for MilkyWayEditor! |
| 09:32.52 | BoltHead | yeah and other times I'd just sit in there and wait to see if anyone happened to notice lol |
| 09:33.29 | onetwo | lol |
| 09:33.33 | BoltHead | Being noticed is only good for a while, then you would just rather people stop typing all caps and saying OMG ITS YOU |
| 09:33.43 | `3ICE | my point exactly |
| 09:33.50 | BoltHead | =) |
| 09:34.20 | BoltHead | yeah honestly part ICE... |
| 09:34.30 | `3ICE | wut |
| 09:34.38 | BoltHead | when you ask people what they think of a map... way to many people just want to give you a pat on the back |
| 09:34.46 | BoltHead | when your actually looking for critique |
| 09:34.51 | `3ICE | oh yes |
| 09:35.07 | BoltHead | Your like well, fuck if wanted that kind of feedback I would of asked my mother! |
| 09:35.07 | `3ICE | or they criticize so hard it makes me cry :D |
| 09:35.08 | `3ICE | jk |
| 09:35.28 | BoltHead | yeah i used to make kids cry alot actually |
| 09:35.42 | BoltHead | I wasn't really that mean, I would just tear appart maps they spent months making |
| 09:35.54 | BoltHead | so ... maybe i was |
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| 09:36.04 | `3ICE | im an asshole when it comes to finding bugs in a map |
| 09:36.11 | `3ICE | i can write 2 pages long list of problems |
| 09:36.26 | BoltHead | Its a great great quality for a mapmaker |
| 09:36.45 | `3ICE | scared everyone away though |
| 09:36.47 | `3ICE | ^^ |
| 09:36.48 | BoltHead | Being never satisfied and always knowing ways to improve |
| 09:36.55 | Helral | meow |
| 09:37.01 | wOlfLinG | Its annoying when i don't know whether a map has been localised when i download it ><. Should say on it somewhere :( |
| 09:37.08 | `3ICE | why |
| 09:37.12 | `3ICE | jsut run it thru localizer |
| 09:37.16 | `3ICE | problem solved |
| 09:37.21 | BoltHead | As soon as you belive you created the ultimate map and that it is best as it can p ossably be you have reached your limit as a mapmaker |
| 09:37.29 | `3ICE | agree |
| 09:37.33 | BoltHead | That holds true for all creative work |
| 09:38.09 | Helral | Bolthead: that would mean that my creativity has no boundaries.... |
| 09:38.30 | `3ICE | your creativity is infinite Helral. |
| 09:38.38 | Helral | I'm never happy with what I create ;p |
| 09:38.52 | ekcolnovkol | WELL THEN GET HAPPY MOTHERFUCKER |
| 09:38.57 | Fisker | halp Sixen |
| 09:39.02 | ekcolnovkol | SLAPS HELRAL WITH A STICK FILLED WITH GAY |
| 09:39.03 | BoltHead | So are you saying your not creative nor never happy? |
| 09:39.08 | Helral | REQUEST DENIED. |
| 09:39.17 | onetwo | unfortunately we dont have a choice in the new system |
| 09:39.19 | Arthas-2 | ok, that survivors cinematic was AWESOME |
| 09:39.20 | onetwo | we cant make a secret acct |
| 09:39.33 | Helral | nope I'm saying that I'm happy when I'm not being creative, but when I'm creative I'm not happy. |
| 09:39.57 | BoltHead | all you can do is strive for the best you can do |
| 09:40.09 | BoltHead | then once you have done that figure out how you could have done it better |
| 09:40.44 | Helral | ow with it usually goes like: this this and this is the best way, but that also does it and is done faster. |
| 09:41.08 | Helral | withe me it * |
| 09:41.30 | BoltHead | Like code quality and effecency VS it works, and Its fast |
| 09:42.32 | BoltHead | I admit I spend a good deal of time trying to make my triggers flexable and |
| 09:42.43 | BoltHead | 'simple' when I could copy and paste all the stuff |
| 09:44.45 | slightlyrandom | Heh |
| 09:45.05 | slightlyrandom | You've gotta look at that code a fair bit though, pains me to know there's a better way to do it and then not go for it |
| 09:45.55 | BoltHead | Well and then when you do things like Player loops when you only have two players lol |
| 09:47.28 | BoltHead | anyways... still no idea how to edit my camera in the data editor lol |
| 09:47.36 | MUffinsharkturtl | I FOUND A PICTURE OF SIXEN! |
| 09:47.38 | MUffinsharkturtl | http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5499/1277890647297.jpg |
| 09:47.53 | MUffinsharkturtl | hory shat |
| 09:48.16 | Helral | that fury fella? |
| 09:48.21 | Helral | furry* |
| 09:48.27 | MUffinsharkturtl | yes |
| 09:48.33 | MUffinsharkturtl | sixen is fury |
| 09:48.57 | Sixen | Rofl |
| 09:49.07 | Sixen | I'm the furry fella in back. |
| 09:49.40 | MUffinsharkturtl | lol |
| 09:52.32 | BoltHead | I think i might just make a thread about this... |
| 09:52.43 | MUffinsharkturtl | ... |
| 09:52.57 | BoltHead | dont' know how to get my camera to stop adjusting to the terrain |
| 10:03.54 | onetwo | lol dropped frames are so annoying |
| 10:03.59 | onetwo | had to fake insert |
| 10:04.03 | onetwo | frames over the blackness |
| 10:04.11 | onetwo | stutter is better than blackness |
| 10:07.34 | Pierro | hourray my building sytem works |
| 10:10.25 | Repo | 10milkywayedit: 03sixen * r106 Tools/SC2MapEditor/SC2MapEditor (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 10:10.27 | Repo | Null map fix for File Browser options and slight settings update |
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| 10:18.00 | Fisker | why won't you love me Sixen ? |
| 10:21.36 | Hati | yay localizer r14 has the bug finally fixed :P |
| 10:23.25 | Pierro | congrats Hati |
| 10:23.44 | Hati | well not directly my bug :P |
| 10:23.47 | Pierro | finally my map can be played !! |
| 10:23.49 | Hati | more in the MPQEditor itself |
| 10:24.00 | Pierro | hmm is it the creator who need to apply or the player ? |
| 10:24.08 | slightlyrandom | That Localizer is a lifesaver |
| 10:24.14 | slightlyrandom | Or, well |
| 10:24.19 | slightlyrandom | It's pretty darn nifty, at least |
| 10:24.44 | slightlyrandom | Haven't had documented reports of it actually saving any lives so far |
| 10:25.22 | slightlyrandom | Pierro: Apply what what? |
| 10:27.45 | MUffinsharkturtl | Can somone Please Ban me? |
| 10:27.58 | slightlyrandom | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.59 | Arthas-2 | ( @Sixen ): I'm the furry fella in back. - Wanna yiff sum later? |
| 10:28.17 | MUffinsharkturtl | .. |
| 10:28.45 | MUffinsharkturtl | lol. |
| 10:31.06 | Arthas-2 | ill take that awkward silence and a yes and ill be at your place after work |
| 10:31.11 | Arthas-2 | later ppl :p |
| 10:34.01 | Hati | k r14 is up if someone had localizing problems |
| 10:34.57 | slightlyrandom | Cheers |
| 10:35.23 | slightlyrandom | What are the odds of a Linux version of that wonderful app? :D |
| 10:40.01 | Hati | linux don't support .NET i think so ... |
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| 10:58.47 | Beider | if it's written in C# it shouldn't be too hard to translate it to C and make a linux version |
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| 11:07.53 | BoltHead | lol wtf I'm reading old SC1 tutorials for triggers and the tutorial i'm reading links to a map I created.... |
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| 11:09.43 | Ashamed | Good Morn |
| 11:14.32 | Beider | morning |
| 11:14.49 | Beider | ack I should get some work done on my map today, just no motivation to do so |
| 11:16.10 | Ashamed | i know how you feel |
| 11:19.55 | Beider | it's just annoying since I know exactly what I need to do but I know it will take a long time to do so can't get motivated to get started |
| 11:23.40 | Grum | <+Hati> linux don't support .NET i think so ... <-- yes it does, mono |
| 11:24.10 | Beider | Grum: But mono is kind of buggy isn't it |
| 11:24.18 | Grum | is it? O.o |
| 11:24.29 | Grum | i guess it depends what you use it for, no idea tbh :) |
| 11:24.31 | Beider | Last I heard it didn't support all the .net functionality and it was buggy |
| 11:24.51 | Beider | but then again, the localizer is probably not that advanced, so should probably work |
| 11:25.04 | Grum | no idea tbh, the things i before worked, no other experience than use experience though :) |
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| 11:45.16 | random_ | hi, when i complete researching custom made upgrade game doesn't show researches icon |
| 11:45.23 | random_ | just ugly blue box |
| 11:45.31 | random_ | anyone know how to fix it? |
| 11:46.12 | random_ | or what i could do wrong when creating this upgrade? |
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| 11:55.50 | slightlyrandom | random_: you need to find where it specifies what icon to use, and make it use one |
| 11:56.04 | slightlyrandom | That'd be on the... ability? |
| 11:56.15 | slightlyrandom | Hm |
| 11:56.18 | slightlyrandom | Possibly the Button |
| 11:56.46 | slightlyrandom | Heh, can't recall, but check the things linked to your upgrade and search for icon, you'll find it |
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| 12:10.07 | random_ | i checked button, and ability icons, everything seems to be fine there |
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| 12:11.35 | random_ | -.- ... alert icon .. I hate mysalfe |
| 12:16.42 | wOlfLinG | can someone check my respawn trigger? It doesnt seem to work properly :/. The trigger is here: http://pastebin.com/0HW8ZDMj and the function (for the 'returns true if target is a hero' part) is here: http://pastebin.com/hyZcEF7B |
| 12:18.57 | wOlfLinG | anyone? |
| 12:19.30 | slightlyrandom | That whole Is Hero trigger thing |
| 12:20.02 | slightlyrandom | Wouldn't it be easier to make a UnitGroup array, with group number = player number ? |
| 12:20.19 | slightlyrandom | Heh, sorry |
| 12:20.25 | slightlyrandom | Wasnt exactly the question |
| 12:20.41 | slightlyrandom | Does it return true and try to fire, though? |
| 12:21.14 | wOlfLinG | It respawns the first time something dies, but not the second |
| 12:21.49 | wOlfLinG | And when it respawns, its invincable and loses 1 hp per second |
| 12:21.56 | slightlyrandom | heh |
| 12:22.14 | wOlfLinG | plus not all of my heros in the unit group get respawned. Only 2 of them :/ |
| 12:22.20 | slightlyrandom | Thats because you dont remove the "Take No Damage" flag |
| 12:22.46 | slightlyrandom | probably |
| 12:23.05 | slightlyrandom | Anyway, I'd suggest simplifying the conditioning |
| 12:23.15 | slightlyrandom | To make sure the thing fires every time |
| 12:23.59 | wOlfLinG | so how would you do it? |
| 12:24.04 | Helral | Wolfling: store the triggering unit in a variable. and use the variable for the last 2 actions. |
| 12:24.06 | slightlyrandom | Unit Group array |
| 12:24.12 | slightlyrandom | # = 0 is all heroes |
| 12:24.15 | Helral | a wait can cause event variables to alter. |
| 12:24.22 | slightlyrandom | #=1-8 is player heroes |
| 12:24.51 | slightlyrandom | Then check with "Unit is in Group" |
| 12:26.32 | slightlyrandom | A local variable is also a good idea |
| 12:27.18 | slightlyrandom | You can even optimize on the thing by making the even "Random unit from <Unit Group> takes damage" |
| 12:27.23 | slightlyrandom | even+t |
| 12:27.46 | slightlyrandom | That makes debugging easier, too |
| 12:28.59 | slightlyrandom | Wouldn't "Random unit from <Unit Group> takes Fatal Damage" work as well ? |
| 12:29.50 | slightlyrandom | It should, if you can set its life back up before it dies |
| 12:30.46 | wOlfLinG | so All heros[0] would mean that a hero in the [1] array index etc would return true then? |
| 12:30.58 | slightlyrandom | Naw |
| 12:31.07 | slightlyrandom | You'd have to set them independantly |
| 12:31.34 | slightlyrandom | Put it in both HeroGroup[0] and HeroGroup[PlayerNumber] |
| 12:31.48 | slightlyrandom | You dont need the last if you aren't gonna use it to refer to them |
| 12:32.16 | slightlyrandom | Haven't played with referring to units apart from through unit groups, so I don't know if this hack is necesarry |
| 12:32.25 | slightlyrandom | It's an easy hack though, and it works :P |
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| 12:32.42 | naxxan | good morning to the us citizens. good day to others, good evening to others. |
| 12:32.57 | slightlyrandom | Fuck you, it's octember here |
| 12:33.05 | naxxan | that was vaguely random |
| 12:33.20 | slightlyrandom | Damn, layed in on too thick, did I ? |
| 12:33.25 | slightlyrandom | it on* |
| 12:33.31 | naxxan | no |
| 12:34.00 | naxxan | im just so pissed right now im beyond caring what mother fuckers say. so im pretty much forcing myself to be polite |
| 12:34.01 | slightlyrandom | How much of a timedifference is there between the east and west US ? |
| 12:34.05 | slightlyrandom | haha |
| 12:34.05 | naxxan | i never say "good morning" |
| 12:34.07 | naxxan | so.. |
| 12:34.22 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, not much point in here, international bunch that we are |
| 12:34.25 | Helral | meow |
| 12:34.25 | naxxan | well, east coast is 2 hours ahead of me, and i believe that alaska is 3 hours behind me, if not 4 |
| 12:34.43 | naxxan | thats why i said good morning good day and good evening.. stupid shit |
| 12:34.44 | slightlyrandom | So technically it isnt even morning everywhere? It's still night in alaska, or what |
| 12:34.58 | naxxan | no, it would be morning in alaska |
| 12:35.01 | slightlyrandom | hm |
| 12:35.02 | slightlyrandom | Anyway |
| 12:35.08 | naxxan | yes, you were completely wrong |
| 12:35.16 | naxxan | good time to stop tryin to call out my mistake. dont worry i make plenty of them |
| 12:35.18 | slightlyrandom | Happens all the time, I am used to it by now |
| 12:35.33 | naxxan | i know how you feel |
| 12:35.44 | naxxan | someones fucking with my bluetooth |
| 12:35.49 | naxxan | i wish i brought my regular headphones |
| 12:35.57 | naxxan | but i just got these wireless headphones i synced into my ipod |
| 12:36.03 | naxxan | and fuckers here at IBM are fucking wit hit |
| 12:36.06 | slightlyrandom | hah |
| 12:36.12 | naxxan | im gonna start fuckin with their shit if they dont cut it out |
| 12:36.15 | slightlyrandom | You sure you're not the one doing the fucking ? |
| 12:36.25 | naxxan | yes, it was working for the past 15 minutes |
| 12:36.28 | slightlyrandom | Making someones mouse go all spastic, that sort of stuff |
| 12:36.38 | naxxan | and now its cutting in and out as if someones using it, or connecting to my ipod |
| 12:36.45 | naxxan | i do see another device on my ipod |
| 12:36.52 | naxxan | im going to slay them |
| 12:37.12 | slightlyrandom | Cant you just protect your connection with a bit of encryption |
| 12:37.13 | slightlyrandom | ? |
| 12:37.44 | naxxan | i dont have the latest shit on my ipod |
| 12:37.52 | naxxan | cuz i dont have a computer to sync it into |
| 12:38.01 | Pierro | I heve just watched the las Lost episod |
| 12:38.07 | naxxan | i need a motherboard, i think well over half of my library has 1 sync left |
| 12:38.07 | Pierro | its fucking bad |
| 12:38.09 | slightlyrandom | what, it ended ? |
| 12:38.25 | Pierro | the most expensive tv joke |
| 12:38.32 | slightlyrandom | Hah |
| 12:38.35 | slightlyrandom | Thats a nice thought |
| 12:38.47 | slightlyrandom | Someone doing the whole Lost thing as a social experiment |
| 12:38.51 | Pierro | I know what it called Lost however |
| 12:39.02 | Pierro | it refers to the time you Lost watching it |
| 12:39.06 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 12:39.17 | slightlyrandom | Reminds me a of a good book called Company |
| 12:40.09 | slightlyrandom | A huge company set up as an experiement to see what people will put up with, how they react to shit. Doesn't produce a thing, and then profits are made by a seperate company selling what they learn as Business Manuals and Books |
| 12:40.28 | naxxan | lol i fucked with the other bluetooth i can access and now my musics clear again. |
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| 12:41.13 | Phaos | Sarp all |
| 12:41.15 | slightlyrandom | Vigilantism works, as always |
| 12:41.17 | Pierro | hello |
| 12:42.30 | naxxan | good day pierro |
| 12:42.33 | naxxan | and phaos |
| 12:42.46 | Phaos | good day to you too sir |
| 12:42.47 | Pierro | lo |
| 12:43.34 | naxxan | oh pierros been here. my bad |
| 12:43.37 | naxxan | well hi anyway |
| 12:43.54 | naxxan | careful, im in a destroy people mood today. if you piss me off i will e-destroy you |
| 12:44.24 | slightlyrandom | What's ticked you off, then? |
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| 12:46.44 | naxxan | i guess its my male PMS |
| 12:46.45 | naxxan | lol |
| 12:46.57 | slightlyrandom | Ah, hangover |
| 12:46.59 | naxxan | idk, all the little things all accumulated together |
| 12:47.09 | naxxan | nah i dont get hangovers. i just throw up a lot then im fine the next day |
| 12:47.21 | slightlyrandom | Good way to go about it, get the poison out of your system |
| 12:47.31 | naxxan | hmm. stress +anger issues anyway +personal shit. |
| 12:47.43 | naxxan | haha when i throw up its so loud. |
| 12:47.56 | slightlyrandom | Not a screamer but a hurler |
| 12:47.59 | naxxan | yup |
| 12:48.09 | naxxan | HOOOOORAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUGHHHHHHHH... HOOAAAAAAAAAARRGGHHH |
| 12:48.14 | naxxan | splash splash |
| 12:48.23 | slightlyrandom | Bet the neighbours are pleased to know you're still alive |
| 12:48.37 | slightlyrandom | and enjoying all the finer things in life |
| 12:48.38 | naxxan | the last time i ate a ginormous t-bone and hung out in a neighbours apt, on the second story. thankfully noone lived below her |
| 12:48.46 | naxxan | she says theres still a pile of steak on the ground out there. |
| 12:48.51 | slightlyrandom | ^^ |
| 12:49.02 | HP-X|Arthas | im hungry |
| 12:49.05 | HP-X|Arthas | feed me |
| 12:49.07 | naxxan | go eat a tbone |
| 12:49.08 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, now I want streak |
| 12:49.10 | slightlyrandom | steak* |
| 12:49.21 | naxxan | i think we still have the left overs in the fridge |
| 12:49.26 | naxxan | the steaks that we didnt eat... that is |
| 12:49.27 | naxxan | lol |
| 12:49.32 | HP-X|Arthas | send to me |
| 12:49.33 | HP-X|Arthas | ! |
| 12:49.39 | HP-X|Arthas | HPX @ SC2Mapster |
| 12:49.40 | naxxan | its about 8 days old |
| 12:49.41 | HP-X|Arthas | :>>> |
| 12:49.41 | naxxan | you sure? |
| 12:49.45 | HP-X|Arthas | Suuuure |
| 12:49.48 | naxxan | aight |
| 12:49.53 | HP-X|Arthas | ill just sterilize it with my lighter |
| 12:49.54 | naxxan | let me put it into the cd-rom |
| 12:50.00 | HP-X|Arthas | sweet! |
| 12:50.03 | naxxan | and ill upload it so you can download it |
| 12:50.18 | naxxan | i tried to put it into a flash drive but.... well i lost a flash drive |
| 12:50.22 | naxxan | its somewhere in the steak |
| 12:50.38 | naxxan | 32GB is not enough storage space for a real steak |
| 12:50.55 | naxxan | when are we going to start storing food electronically do you think? |
| 12:51.04 | Pierro | lol |
| 12:51.09 | Pierro | someday man |
| 12:51.13 | naxxan | lol |
| 12:51.14 | Pierro | we ll all be dead since |
| 12:51.22 | naxxan | arent they working on the "beam me up scotty" thing |
| 12:51.32 | Pierro | ask Prozaic |
| 12:51.37 | Pierro | he is master at beam |
| 12:51.51 | naxxan | hmm, all he ever says is "isforlosers" |
| 12:51.55 | Phaos | Hah bet naxxan is kicking him self now |
| 12:51.58 | slightlyrandom | Well, the logical next step is to upload ourselves into the cloud |
| 12:52.04 | slightlyrandom | Since the cloud is awesome and that |
| 12:52.19 | naxxan | a cloud eh |
| 12:52.21 | naxxan | why |
| 12:52.32 | slightlyrandom | At that point, steak as information isn't that daft a concept |
| 12:52.35 | slightlyrandom | Why not? |
| 12:52.48 | slightlyrandom | And didn't you hear? The Cloud makes EVERYTHING better |
| 12:52.59 | slightlyrandom | I'm sure it'll improve steak tenfold as well |
| 12:53.00 | naxxan | well.. if all our guts and everything were in a cloud... wouldnt it turn it pinkish and give it weight? |
| 12:53.06 | naxxan | and as for air >< |
| 12:53.17 | naxxan | are you suggesting we are going to turn ourselves into a gaseous form? |
| 12:53.21 | Phaos | is there anywhere in behaviors or effects that can increase the spawn limit of something ? |
| 12:53.21 | naxxan | and still live? |
| 12:53.24 | slightlyrandom | Wrong cloud |
| 12:53.31 | Phaos | electonic cloud |
| 12:53.33 | naxxan | spawn limit? like how often a unit spawns? |
| 12:53.35 | Phaos | tronic* |
| 12:53.47 | naxxan | or how many can spawn |
| 12:53.48 | slightlyrandom | You still trying to make the hacthery spawn more larva ? |
| 12:53.49 | Phaos | no, the maximum amount of spawns |
| 12:54.00 | Phaos | only just got back from work :P |
| 12:54.04 | Phaos | so yes |
| 12:54.04 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 12:54.09 | naxxan | i dont know. make it so the hatchery doesnt recognize the larva it already has |
| 12:54.13 | naxxan | if thats possible |
| 12:54.14 | naxxan | >< |
| 12:54.18 | naxxan | srry im not a editor |
| 12:54.21 | Phaos | this has been my last couple of weeks. galaxy editor and work |
| 12:54.28 | slightlyrandom | Well, clearly it is possible since the there is a limit now |
| 12:54.35 | Phaos | yep |
| 12:54.41 | Phaos | but increasing it... |
| 12:54.44 | naxxan | lol, this has been my last week, this chat room and work. |
| 12:54.44 | HP-X|Arthas | sry got a call |
| 12:54.45 | slightlyrandom | Have you figured out what makes the old limit ? |
| 12:54.56 | Phaos | oh yeah I always knew |
| 12:55.06 | HP-X|Arthas | well, i saw seagate released their 3TB external drives |
| 12:55.06 | slightlyrandom | And you can't just tweak that a wee bit? |
| 12:55.12 | Phaos | it's the requirement on the spawner |
| 12:55.13 | naxxan | the old limit is it recognizing there are larva there, so it stops at 3. either make it so the larva are no longer owned by that hatchery, or so the hatchery doesnt know theres larva |
| 12:55.16 | HP-X|Arthas | copy food onto drive, send to me, get sued by food supplier |
| 12:55.24 | HP-X|Arthas | then they make you into steak |
| 12:55.28 | HP-X|Arthas | repeat, the circe of life |
| 12:55.32 | Phaos | there is a requirement which is "less than 3" (which includes 0) |
| 12:55.32 | HP-X|Arthas | circle* |
| 12:55.46 | slightlyrandom | Less than 19? :P |
| 12:55.53 | Phaos | nope |
| 12:55.59 | Phaos | I'll explain it |
| 12:55.59 | naxxan | more than 3 |
| 12:56.03 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, but can't you just alter it? :D |
| 12:56.25 | naxxan | youd also have to do it for the hive and ... whats the other one? lair? |
| 12:56.29 | naxxan | in reverse order |
| 12:56.31 | Phaos | the hatchery can set a spawn rate, the maximum spawn number, and how many are spawned at a single period. in this case. a hatchery is set to 19 and 1 (19 max) |
| 12:56.42 | Phaos | if there is no requirement linked |
| 12:56.54 | Phaos | when you start the game, all 19 are spawned immediatly |
| 12:57.05 | Phaos | so what the requirement does is keep it at 3 |
| 12:57.20 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, but there is only one larva that spawns normally |
| 12:57.24 | naxxan | hold on theres an easy way around that |
| 12:57.27 | slightlyrandom | So clearly you're doing something wrong |
| 12:57.29 | Phaos | the only way to go OVER the requirement is to use a queen |
| 12:57.35 | naxxan | do you only want 19 at the start, or so it can build up to 19 all throughout the map? |
| 12:57.36 | Phaos | nope |
| 12:57.43 | slightlyrandom | Start of the game, there is one larva |
| 12:57.45 | slightlyrandom | Proven fact |
| 12:57.48 | Phaos | load up a game as a zerg player, and your hatchery will start with 3 |
| 12:58.02 | naxxan | theres 3 at the start random |
| 12:58.07 | slightlyrandom | really? |
| 12:58.09 | slightlyrandom | Oh :P |
| 12:58.09 | naxxan | i played melee a lot, i was platinum leage, not pro thuogh :( |
| 12:58.09 | Phaos | I want it to start at none and build to 19 |
| 12:58.19 | naxxan | league* |
| 12:58.23 | naxxan | in 1v1 |
| 12:58.24 | slightlyrandom | Map initialization, select all larva, remove |
| 12:58.35 | Phaos | don't wanna involve triggers |
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| 12:58.38 | slightlyrandom | Pfft |
| 12:58.51 | Phaos | I want as little triggers as possible for the unit stuff |
| 12:58.55 | naxxan | well |
| 12:58.57 | naxxan | then ur fucked |
| 12:59.08 | Phaos | I'm saving ALL the network lag causing triggers for the AI and stuff |
| 12:59.19 | Phaos | nope, there must be a way |
| 12:59.26 | naxxan | a trigger at the start of the map that only triggers at the start of the map |
| 12:59.26 | slightlyrandom | Of course there is |
| 12:59.28 | Phaos | have you seen the stuff you can do with the data ed alone ? |
| 12:59.31 | naxxan | is only going to affect, the start of the map |
| 12:59.31 | slightlyrandom | You can hack a behavior |
| 12:59.46 | slightlyrandom | Give the unit a buff some time after creation to allow it to have more larva |
| 12:59.54 | Phaos | I spose I could make an artifical spawner yeah |
| 13:00.00 | slightlyrandom | Or that |
| 13:00.01 | Phaos | yeah |
| 13:00.18 | Phaos | but the "more larva" or "spawn-limit" i don't see a way to change it |
| 13:00.29 | Pierro | I created an automated harvest with only data editor |
| 13:00.39 | Phaos | because I would do that, have it initialise at 0 but upgrade immediatly to 19 |
| 13:01.20 | naxxan | i thought you said the hatchery had those options? that you cold set spawn rate spawn number cap and how many are spawned at each interval |
| 13:01.34 | slightlyrandom | Heh, you could replace the hatchery with a super hatchery 1 sec after it completes construction |
| 13:01.44 | naxxan | LOL stack some hatcheries |
| 13:01.50 | slightlyrandom | or that ;) |
| 13:01.56 | naxxan | 7 = 21 |
| 13:02.00 | Helral | Phaos: Requirements: Hatchery Spawn Larva. |
| 13:02.09 | naxxan | helral knows whats up :) ill shh |
| 13:02.18 | Phaos | helral I know |
| 13:02.19 | slightlyrandom | The pros have taken over |
| 13:02.28 | Phaos | but I'm finding it really hard to explain what that does |
| 13:02.41 | Phaos | I have already tested it, hense why I am in a bind |
| 13:02.42 | naxxan | he wants 0 to start with |
| 13:02.55 | naxxan | normal starting larva = 3 |
| 13:02.59 | Phaos | the spawn behavior has a "limit |
| 13:02.59 | Helral | it counts if the number of larva at the hatchery is less then 3. if so then it allows the spawning of new larva. |
| 13:03.07 | Phaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.29 | Phaos | if without the requirement, the building will initialise with that amount |
| 13:03.33 | Phaos | already spawned |
| 13:03.43 | Phaos | with the requirement it forces it to only spawn 2 |
| 13:03.44 | Phaos | 3 |
| 13:03.50 | Phaos | and it stays at 3 |
| 13:04.04 | Phaos | the queen can force spawn more with it's ability |
| 13:04.06 | Phaos | up to 19 infact! |
| 13:04.20 | naxxan | starting spawn < 0 |
| 13:04.25 | Phaos | no |
| 13:04.29 | naxxan | limit < 20 |
| 13:04.30 | Phaos | because then it would never spawn any |
| 13:04.37 | naxxan | spawn rate X |
| 13:04.51 | Phaos | spawn rate is only AFTER map initialisation |
| 13:04.57 | naxxan | hmm nevermind then >< |
| 13:05.11 | naxxan | sorry i just like to figure stuff out or help figure stuff out lol |
| 13:05.18 | Phaos | at map init, spawn behavior spawns immediatly the max number of units |
| 13:05.45 | Phaos | it's only the requirement that stops it from doing that, and then THAT stops it from spawning anymore |
| 13:05.47 | Phaos | at all |
| 13:05.51 | Phaos | until one dies |
| 13:05.58 | Phaos | then it spawns up to 3 again |
| 13:06.11 | Phaos | the queen uses eggs. and it goes /over/ the requirement limit |
| 13:07.01 | naxxan | change the requirement to a different command? or.. whatever all that mumbo jumbo is |
| 13:07.24 | Phaos | not how it's working naxxan :P |
| 13:07.41 | naxxan | haha well i am trying to think in coding, but i havent exactly coded before |
| 13:07.42 | Phaos | basicly, the core of the issue is 100% the map initilisation spawn |
| 13:07.48 | naxxan | dang. |
| 13:07.50 | Phaos | if not for the map init spawn, I would be happy |
| 13:08.13 | naxxan | well, like random said earlier, just make a trigger to kill em all off... that would leave 0 until the next spawn interval |
| 13:08.23 | naxxan | i mean... its an extra trigger but it solves ur proble,m |
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| 13:09.24 | TerrorAustralis | hi, anyone on? |
| 13:09.55 | depthsofchaos | no, only 70 people |
| 13:10.20 | TerrorAustralis | oh dear |
| 13:10.21 | Helral | Phaos: how about replacing the spawn larva with a behavior that adds the spawn larva behavior after the game has started? |
| 13:11.24 | TerrorAustralis | can anyone help me with a problem in the data editor? Apparently in-game when I try to create a marauder it does not appear in the barracks yet the barracks has the ability to make the marauder and the button is also on the command card, is there something i'm missing? |
| 13:12.31 | depthsofchaos | whaaat? you made a custom barack or what? |
| 13:12.44 | depthsofchaos | units need resources .. |
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| 13:12.59 | TerrorAustralis | i've changed the barracks around a bit, but i editted the marauder a bit aswell, changed stats, changed its name |
| 13:13.06 | TerrorAustralis | the barracks can make a marine |
| 13:13.12 | TerrorAustralis | but not a marauder for some reason |
| 13:13.17 | TerrorAustralis | (or ghost) |
| 13:13.41 | Phaos | is it greyed out/ |
| 13:13.42 | Phaos | ? |
| 13:13.47 | TerrorAustralis | no |
| 13:13.50 | Phaos | or just does notihng? |
| 13:13.54 | TerrorAustralis | nothing shows up |
| 13:14.01 | depthsofchaos | well you left out something we rly cant help in this |
| 13:14.02 | Helral | Terror: check the Command Card of the Barracks. |
| 13:14.05 | TerrorAustralis | but on the command card, in the editor menu |
| 13:14.05 | TerrorAustralis | its there |
| 13:14.26 | depthsofchaos | the build ability has to have it also |
| 13:14.32 | Helral | did you set a button/train ability? |
| 13:14.34 | Phaos | sounds like your missing a requirment |
| 13:14.39 | TerrorAustralis | yep |
| 13:15.21 | TerrorAustralis | i don't think the build ability has a command card, just the barracks itself |
| 13:19.00 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/on-the-fly-cliff/. On the fly cliff. Moooyaah (Manager/Author). Approved by grum. |
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| 13:22.46 | naxxan | im getting emails from the future. please help! |
| 13:24.19 | depthsofchaos | did you get so drunk you forgot what day it is? |
| 13:24.34 | naxxan | i havent drank for 2 weeks |
| 13:24.36 | naxxan | so.. |
| 13:24.39 | naxxan | when i see an email |
| 13:24.50 | naxxan | from thursday july 1st at 1:10PM |
| 13:24.56 | naxxan | somethings goin on |
| 13:25.15 | depthsofchaos | yeah your email provider uses korean time zone xD |
| 13:25.21 | naxxan | yahoo is korean now? |
| 13:25.25 | depthsofchaos | i guess |
| 13:25.35 | naxxan | funny, because all my other emails ive received... |
| 13:25.41 | naxxan | are from today, and the timestamp is right |
| 13:26.59 | naxxan | the gold farmer spam i get is also timestamped correctly lol |
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| 13:43.15 | depthsofchaos | why the hell does a trigger still pop in the debug window when its disabled |
| 13:43.21 | depthsofchaos | i mean turned off |
| 13:45.07 | Ashamed | anyone maken anything super gangsta? |
| 13:46.13 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 13:46.22 | slightlyrandom | Because it can depthsofchaos, it just doesnt fire |
| 13:46.44 | slightlyrandom | I guess disabling it just adds in a condition, if disabled = false |
| 13:46.54 | depthsofchaos | thats really lame |
| 13:46.57 | slightlyrandom | That'd be how I'd do it, anyway, in my usual lazy style |
| 13:46.57 | Hati | depthsofchaos: because you can active it still |
| 13:47.06 | Hati | and it wouldn't make sense to remove / add it always ... |
| 13:47.08 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, makes it easier to activate |
| 13:47.23 | depthsofchaos | why would it check turned off stuff wasting resources |
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| 13:47.48 | Hati | because its a debug mode |
| 13:47.51 | Hati | its not ment to play |
| 13:48.35 | depthsofchaos | im sure it pop on play as well |
| 13:48.38 | slightlyrandom | That On the Fly Cliff thing, ( http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/on-the-fly-cliff/ ), is that what CCTC or whatever was looking for ? |
| 13:48.40 | depthsofchaos | i mean online |
| 13:48.45 | Hati | no it doesn't |
| 13:48.58 | depthsofchaos | how do you know |
| 13:49.18 | Hati | it is a setting in GE - you can launch SC2 with debug option but then it is a players choice |
| 13:49.36 | depthsofchaos | all the debug window does is display inner events |
| 13:49.42 | depthsofchaos | not generating anything new |
| 13:49.59 | slightlyrandom | Well, does it say on the window that the triggers fire and fail on condition ? |
| 13:50.02 | Hati | still wasting memory |
| 13:50.14 | slightlyrandom | Because thats the other feature of the thing, it shows how much time is spent on each trigger |
| 13:50.29 | slightlyrandom | So you can quite easily determine if, what, when and why. And how! |
| 13:50.55 | slightlyrandom | the window and the thing = the debug jiggly |
| 13:51.25 | Pierro | https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1s7RvVP4bcXTyZTVjB6k8e7uIv8-4CNlRCvnIOtl5uPE&hl=fr&authkey=COHH44YK |
| 13:51.27 | Pierro | miss |
| 13:51.42 | depthsofchaos | it says nothing it sais the same thing as if it was turned on i know it doens run it of course |
| 13:52.03 | slightlyrandom | does or doesnt ? |
| 13:52.22 | depthsofchaos | doesnt |
| 13:53.02 | slightlyrandom | Well, there is a column that reads something to the effect of "Failed on condition" and one that says "Time spend running trigger" and "Time spent trying to run trigger" |
| 13:53.29 | slightlyrandom | So if these fields are all empty, no sweat! If they are full, go swear at Blizzard for wasting precious MS of computing time |
| 13:53.53 | depthsofchaos | failed on condition is different |
| 13:54.26 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, but if no time is spent on the triggers, then whats the problem? |
| 13:54.37 | slightlyrandom | Dont take my wild guesses for fact |
| 13:54.46 | depthsofchaos | there is time spent |
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| 13:55.06 | slightlyrandom | according to you or according to the debug window ? |
| 13:55.35 | depthsofchaos | oh fuck off ... |
| 13:56.05 | slightlyrandom | I will |
| 13:56.07 | slightlyrandom | Thank you |
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| 14:02.51 | payne | hai nubs! :D |
| 14:02.59 | payne | who's alive? |
| 14:03.36 | payne | lol |
| 14:03.45 | depthsofchaos | no one |
| 14:03.47 | payne | sc2mapster's losing in activity or what? |
| 14:03.54 | payne | hi ^^ |
| 14:03.59 | depthsofchaos | beta is off |
| 14:03.59 | payne | one lil question: |
| 14:04.01 | xttocs | SC2 is out of beta is what, I believe |
| 14:04.06 | payne | can we edit the size of water squares we place in GE? |
| 14:04.36 | payne | it is too big to my likes |
| 14:04.39 | madsquare | does a melee still count as melee if i modify something in the data editor? |
| 14:04.47 | payne | dun think so |
| 14:04.58 | depthsofchaos | theres an automatic classification |
| 14:05.07 | depthsofchaos | keep an eye on that |
| 14:05.22 | payne | anyone can answer please? |
| 14:05.23 | madsquare | i didnt check - where is it shown? |
| 14:05.25 | payne | about the Water Squares |
| 14:05.28 | depthsofchaos | map/map status |
| 14:05.31 | madsquare | no you cant |
| 14:05.33 | depthsofchaos | you cant afaik |
| 14:05.35 | payne | wow |
| 14:05.37 | payne | so many features |
| 14:05.40 | madsquare | but you dont need to |
| 14:05.41 | payne | but we cant edit that detail? |
| 14:05.51 | payne | its rediculous! |
| 14:05.52 | depthsofchaos | lame it is |
| 14:06.00 | payne | ridiculous* |
| 14:06.07 | payne | oh well, I dunno how to write this XD |
| 14:06.25 | payne | why haven'T they made the square smaller? |
| 14:06.28 | payne | they are retarded. |
| 14:06.37 | payne | they are retarded |
| 14:06.44 | payne | them and their fucking b.net 2.0 |
| 14:06.48 | payne | its pure bullshit |
| 14:06.57 | payne | i'll wait until they fix their b.net before buying their shit |
| 14:07.21 | madsquare | map type custom because of custom loading screen |
| 14:07.27 | madsquare | fuck you |
| 14:07.45 | madsquare | i dont care after all its still playable like a melee map |
| 14:09.13 | naxxan | i am having loads of fun on my counterstrike forum. |
| 14:09.24 | naxxan | anyone bored and wanna go look? |
| 14:09.25 | naxxan | lol |
| 14:10.25 | depthsofchaos | are actions threaded?::/ |
| 14:11.58 | depthsofchaos | my unit created trigger is turned off yet it pops when i only turn it on after i create units with actions |
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| 14:42.32 | nicoli_s | got some cool new stuff in our 3rd party editor. now when you clone a unit/abil/whatever you can also change its localized text in the same menu, so you can clone a zealot, and change its name, description, tooltip, hotkey, etc all right there |
| 14:44.26 | xttocs | slaps nicoli_s |
| 14:44.43 | Pierro | when will it be published ? |
| 14:45.51 | nicoli_s | not sure pierro, aiming for sometime after the beta comes up before the game actually launches |
| 14:46.09 | nicoli_s | xttocs:gonna be in town this weekend? i might be in atl or around it for the 4th |
| 14:46.23 | xttocs | I'm going up to NC nic |
| 14:46.34 | nicoli_s | ahh damn, i love NC |
| 14:46.41 | xttocs | Yeah me too |
| 14:46.46 | xttocs | If you're around Friday though |
| 14:46.55 | xttocs | I'll probably be around |
| 14:47.21 | nicoli_s | nah, friday we wont be leaving here till like 8 or so, so 9 yer time, so itll be late when we get in, will prob just stay in douglasville |
| 14:49.14 | xttocs | aah |
| 14:49.26 | xttocs | What do you have planned for the 4th in ATL? |
| 14:49.32 | nicoli_s | dunno yet |
| 14:49.41 | nicoli_s | we are bringing a bunch of hardcore illegal alabama fireworks :P |
| 14:50.27 | Phaos | Hmm I have a unit which is not playing sound when he attacks, under sounds I have "attack" listed as Hydralisk_AttackImpactMeele |
| 14:50.33 | Phaos | on the actor |
| 14:50.42 | xttocs | haha |
| 14:50.56 | xttocs | I may drive up through SC to snag some uber illegal SC fireworks |
| 14:50.57 | xttocs | on my way to NC |
| 14:51.22 | xttocs | and I need to get some taters for the spud gun |
| 14:51.55 | slightlyrandom | Ugh, I had that problem Phaos, can't recall what I did :( |
| 14:52.10 | Phaos | le drat |
| 14:52.17 | slightlyrandom | The Sound is listed in the Unit link window thing? |
| 14:52.28 | Phaos | yes indeed |
| 14:52.50 | ProzaicMuze | Phaos, is it using missile weapons? |
| 14:53.02 | slightlyrandom | Heh |
| 14:53.04 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, he has two sounds |
| 14:53.06 | Phaos | it is using... |
| 14:53.08 | slightlyrandom | One for melee, one for ranged |
| 14:53.22 | Phaos | Hydralisk Meele weapon |
| 14:53.25 | Phaos | only |
| 14:53.27 | slightlyrandom | Ah |
| 14:53.49 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, but unit has the sound and what is its weapon? |
| 14:53.59 | slightlyrandom | Well, what I do in stupid land in these situations, is list the original unit next to the one I am trying to make work, and look for differences |
| 14:54.19 | slightlyrandom | Probably in the effect or the weapon |
| 14:54.28 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 14:54.36 | ProzaicMuze | I typically make all my units from scratch |
| 14:54.43 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, I ain't that fancy |
| 14:54.52 | slightlyrandom | Probably the cause of most of my problems |
| 14:54.56 | ProzaicMuze | lol, I find it's actually easier since you have much less clutter |
| 14:55.08 | ProzaicMuze | lol yeah, exactly. More potential badness :( |
| 14:55.11 | slightlyrandom | I can see where you're coming from, and you're probably right |
| 14:55.31 | ProzaicMuze | @Phaos if you have the unit shooting a missile weapon and the sound isn't going off when the missile impacts, it's likely because you're missing this event in the actor: |
| 14:55.42 | ProzaicMuze | Effect.BlahMissileDamage.Start |
| 14:55.44 | ProzaicMuze | At Caster |
| 14:55.49 | ProzaicMuze | AtEffectTreeDescendant |
| 14:55.53 | ProzaicMuze | ActionImpact |
| 14:56.37 | slightlyrandom | I wouldn't be comfortable making all those events and stuff from scratch though |
| 14:57.34 | ProzaicMuze | @slightly, I wouldn't say right, I'd just say more controlled and "safe." There are definitely cases where it's ok to copy stuff. |
| 14:57.51 | Phaos | I do the same normally prozaic but this time I was basing it off the infestor |
| 14:57.52 | slightlyrandom | Guess it depends what you're going for |
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| 14:57.57 | Phaos | then later changed my mind |
| 14:58.04 | TheLaughingMan | Phaos! |
| 14:58.09 | Phaos | wonder i I delete it and change it to be based off the hydra |
| 14:58.21 | Phaos | Yo laughingman I leaft you my email addy |
| 14:58.29 | TheLaughingMan | Where? |
| 14:58.35 | slightlyrandom | On your desk |
| 14:58.42 | Phaos | way back in the logs :P |
| 14:58.48 | Phaos | roryhalexander @ gmail . com |
| 14:59.05 | ProzaicMuze | aha! I know your name |
| 14:59.06 | ProzaicMuze | muaha! |
| 14:59.21 | Phaos | lawl :P |
| 14:59.29 | Phaos | as an artist.. isn't that a good thing ? |
| 14:59.44 | slightlyrandom | I wonder what'll happen once Google is impounded and all the information they have on us is put to use for the US Government |
| 14:59.57 | slightlyrandom | Ah fuck it, that'll never happen |
| 15:00.13 | Phaos | I'll probably regret every moment I'm alive, but until that day.. fuck it |
| 15:01.01 | slightlyrandom | Heh, it's so awesome when you see places like MySpace selling all the information they have on people to basically the highest bidder |
| 15:01.08 | TheLaughingMan | Attach file! |
| 15:01.13 | slightlyrandom | And you go, "Yeah, that'll happen to Facebook in 2 years, and Google in 10" |
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| 15:01.38 | TheLaughingMan | It won't attach... |
| 15:01.45 | slightlyrandom | Try duct tape |
| 15:02.00 | Phaos | one day the entire internet will turn into the worlds embaressing sex tape that they will want to hide away |
| 15:02.29 | slightlyrandom | I hope on that day, when we all know each others embarrassing secrets, they wont be embarrassing |
| 15:02.32 | Phaos | too big O.o ? |
| 15:02.43 | Phaos | shouldn't be, max files are TINY |
| 15:03.08 | slightlyrandom | "Oh hey, you like getting fucked by dogs too? Awesome!" |
| 15:03.18 | TheLaughingMan | It's less then 1 MB |
| 15:04.08 | Phaos | yeah :P |
| 15:04.11 | Phaos | figured as much |
| 15:04.13 | Phaos | wonder whats weird |
| 15:04.23 | TheLaughingMan | idk it's uploading now |
| 15:04.29 | Phaos | oh good |
| 15:04.47 | TheLaughingMan | So apparantly the model exporter I use exports the mesh on backwords or something |
| 15:05.20 | Phaos | which is silly |
| 15:05.24 | TheLaughingMan | Sent |
| 15:05.27 | ProzaicMuze | lol, I think the dog thing is more for women than for men |
| 15:05.57 | ProzaicMuze | Sheep and goats are for men! :D |
| 15:06.07 | Phaos | hmm max is being stupid.. why does everything fuck up after you install your OS |
| 15:06.30 | TheLaughingMan | Didn't for me! |
| 15:06.36 | TheLaughingMan | Reformated and Fresh Install |
| 15:06.48 | TheLaughingMan | Last Night, and 3DS Max installed smoothly |
| 15:07.00 | Phaos | yeah see. I'm just tryign to drag and drop, this is the first time I have opened max since reinstalling the day before xD |
| 15:07.28 | Phaos | and yeah I should be able to drag and drop my max is edited for portability |
| 15:07.34 | TheLaughingMan | Also I need to remove the alpha channel from the .dds |
| 15:07.35 | Phaos | better not have to reinstall -_- |
| 15:08.03 | Phaos | thats EASY |
| 15:08.09 | TheLaughingMan | Or something, cause when I try to render it the model is like super bright |
| 15:08.18 | Phaos | take it into photoshop. kill the alpha channel, win |
| 15:08.27 | Phaos | oh! |
| 15:08.30 | Phaos | thats your specular |
| 15:08.44 | Phaos | or just the scene lights |
| 15:08.53 | Phaos | the natural scene light is quite horrific |
| 15:08.56 | TheLaughingMan | No idea, you take a look at it |
| 15:09.02 | Phaos | will do |
| 15:09.29 | TheLaughingMan | In blender I got it somewhat working but messing with the UV stuff was a pain |
| 15:09.39 | slightlyrandom | ProzaicMuze: Naw, women to horses, man! |
| 15:09.44 | slightlyrandom | t=d |
| 15:10.01 | TheLaughingMan | I couln't input exactly how much I wanted to move it |
| 15:10.43 | TheLaughingMan | Cause after you flipped the UV map they where trying to grab data from outside of the image plane |
| 15:13.06 | Phaos | *nerd rage* |
| 15:13.17 | Phaos | my portable max is bork, gunna need to reinstall |
| 15:13.39 | TheLaughingMan | I need to install photoshop |
| 15:13.46 | Phaos | good thing it's now rather than later when someone throws a contract at me |
| 15:15.55 | madsquare | you can actually play 'custom maps' like melee maps, their just not classified as such right? |
| 15:16.07 | madsquare | theyre* |
| 15:19.07 | madsquare | ? |
| 15:21.10 | slightlyrandom | Why would you do that? |
| 15:21.19 | slightlyrandom | To stick your name on the custom loading screen? |
| 15:22.22 | TheLaughingMan | Phaos, where are you at? |
| 15:22.26 | slightlyrandom | Well, sure, if you leave the melee triggers in there and set up some spawn locations, it'll play as a melee map |
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| 15:22.37 | Phaos | reinstalling max >: | |
| 15:22.45 | Dustin| | >=/ |
| 15:22.58 | TheLaughingMan | When your done, just send me an email with the info and what you did |
| 15:23.00 | slightlyrandom | >8 ( |
| 15:23.05 | TheLaughingMan | I have to disconnect, my phone is about to die |
| 15:23.07 | Ashamed | NO |
| 15:23.12 | Phaos | oooookay |
| 15:23.16 | Phaos | I'll be sure too :) |
| 15:23.20 | Ashamed | no he wont |
| 15:23.22 | Ashamed | He wont do it |
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| 15:28.09 | vjeux | news coming in soon |
| 15:28.12 | vjeux | are you prepared? :p |
| 15:28.15 | nicoli_s | IT BETTER!\ |
| 15:28.17 | nicoli_s | :P |
| 15:28.38 | Phaos | basicly it's the first of july, wheres my damn phase two :P |
| 15:28.48 | Megalon | omg, you are pregnant |
| 15:28.51 | Phaos | only 26 more days till starcraft guiz !! |
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| 15:29.28 | Phaos | I am 100% excite |
| 15:29.42 | Phaos | I want my jim raynor dog tag |
| 15:30.13 | vjeux | I want a Mapster achievement ingame! |
| 15:30.25 | Phaos | mapster achievement ?! |
| 15:30.49 | vjeux | play 500 custom maps! |
| 15:30.52 | vjeux | you become a mapster! |
| 15:30.55 | random_ | hello, can anyone tell me if its possible to change units owner in effects? |
| 15:31.08 | Phaos | yes random_ :D |
| 15:31.17 | Phaos | well it's a behavior actually |
| 15:31.38 | random_ | well, i looked into neural parasite and noticed that it's a behaviour |
| 15:31.43 | Phaos | effect :apply buff. buff: owner+ (caster/nuetral/hostile) |
| 15:32.15 | Phaos | why do you want it by a effect specificly? |
| 15:32.16 | random_ | but if i want to make MindControl permament then applied buff must stay on unit forever? |
| 15:32.25 | Phaos | nope |
| 15:32.35 | Phaos | wait. |
| 15:32.36 | Phaos | yes |
| 15:32.40 | Phaos | but |
| 15:32.48 | Phaos | you can hide the behavior and make it permenant |
| 15:33.07 | ProzaicMuze | 500 maps!? |
| 15:33.12 | random_ | actually.. I just remembered that behaviours can be overwritteln lol, that was my problem |
| 15:33.13 | ProzaicMuze | quits |
| 15:33.24 | random_ | then behaviours are ok ! =D |
| 15:33.32 | Phaos | :P |
| 15:33.43 | Phaos | behaviors can be disabled or removed |
| 15:33.47 | Phaos | take your pick :P |
| 15:37.04 | Clord | aka about everything you need to control them |
| 15:37.04 | Clord | lol |
| 15:37.38 | Phaos | although thats a lie when it comes to "wander" behaviors. THOSE can only be removed :P |
| 15:38.27 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/creature-contest-matchmaking-warcraft-3-models/ |
| 15:40.32 | vjeux | no reaction to the uber creature contest? :p |
| 15:40.37 | Dustin | What are those wander behaviors for anywho? |
| 15:42.35 | Clord | lol |
| 15:42.39 | Clord | even seen critters? |
| 15:42.43 | Clord | they move around randomly |
| 15:42.55 | random_ | can anyone please explain what is "vital fraction" ? |
| 15:43.15 | random_ | in cost+ |
| 15:43.23 | Phaos | so it's a /fraction/ of the units hp |
| 15:43.26 | Phaos | 1 is 100% |
| 15:43.30 | Corosus | soooooooooo, there any official word on the SC2 phase 2 possibly starting tomorrow? |
| 15:43.31 | Phaos | 0 is 0% |
| 15:43.35 | Phaos | 0.5 is 50% |
| 15:43.39 | Dustin | ^ |
| 15:43.46 | ProzaicMuze | lol Vjeux, they're too busy talkin' math and crap |
| 15:43.54 | ProzaicMuze | Who talks math in a mapping channel!? |
| 15:43.55 | Phaos | 500 is 50000% :P |
| 15:43.57 | vjeux | i'd say crap :p |
| 15:43.59 | random_ | aha.. but why is it possible to enter any number there? |
| 15:44.03 | random_ | oh |
| 15:44.05 | random_ | >.< |
| 15:44.12 | vjeux | vital fraction is a fraction without it the unit dies! |
| 15:44.15 | vjeux | it's vital! |
| 15:44.26 | random_ | :P |
| 15:44.26 | Phaos | You know I'm really tempted to enter that attachment contest, as I have been doing ALOT of attachments lately and am pretty handy at it |
| 15:44.27 | vjeux | (<- talking crap instead of math :p) |
| 15:44.34 | vjeux | great Phaos |
| 15:45.09 | vjeux | do you have some fun creatures in mind? |
| 15:45.28 | Phaos | heh lately I have been making cybernetic zerg :P |
| 15:45.34 | vjeux | lol fun |
| 15:45.35 | Phaos | terran experiments xD |
| 15:45.57 | Phaos | science vessel attaches control units to the heads of the workers |
| 15:46.01 | Megalon | i wonder how many penis creatures will be submited to the contest |
| 15:46.14 | Phaos | you know.. would my "assimilated brood" count as an entrant? like the whole set ? |
| 15:46.35 | Phaos | that way I can work on my map AND submit for the contest :P |
| 15:46.51 | vjeux | what's an assimilated brood? |
| 15:46.55 | Ashamed | i am tired |
| 15:46.57 | Ashamed | and ready to go home |
| 15:47.44 | Phaos | the terran have implanted AIs and all sorts of ugly robotics into a zerg sub breed in an attempt to control it |
| 15:47.59 | naxxan | lol |
| 15:48.04 | naxxan | work sucks |
| 15:48.39 | vjeux | hmm, try to stick with the rules: provide creatures one by one :) |
| 15:48.42 | Phaos | which is mostly working. the Adjutant is directly uploaded to the "hatchery" which is called the Assimilated Brood. that building then pumps out "worms" which are nuetral and wander around, then you use science vessels to plug control units into the heads of the worms |
| 15:48.52 | Phaos | Yeah thought so :P |
| 15:49.04 | ProzaicMuze | lol Phaos is trying to advertise his map AND win a contest |
| 15:49.07 | ProzaicMuze | Devious >:D |
| 15:49.09 | vjeux | but you can make a youtube vid of your stuff anyway |
| 15:49.11 | Phaos | lawl |
| 15:49.16 | vjeux | you will probably be newsed :p |
| 15:49.25 | Phaos | Yeah I should do that :x |
| 15:50.37 | Phaos | My favorite part of the whole worker set up is what I am tryign to finish tonight. after you have 20 worms produced by the brood, then a "task master" (name to be re-thought) will pop out, making any nearby uncontrolled worms turn hostile xD |
| 15:51.01 | vjeux | fun |
| 15:51.15 | vjeux | btw 914 maps on mapster |
| 15:51.20 | vjeux | we are going to hit the #1000 soon |
| 15:51.24 | Phaos | Woot! |
| 15:51.43 | Megalon | time to make 85 dummy projects and claim #1000 |
| 15:51.56 | naxxan | do the maps have to be good? |
| 15:51.57 | naxxan | lol |
| 15:52.06 | Phaos | I think I may make 'Subject 28b-x' my entrant. He's is going to need alot of fancy attachment work |
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| 15:57.30 | ProzaicMuze | I should take whatever Phaos enters and make it bigger, double the attachments and paint it hot rod red! |
| 15:57.33 | vjeux | grr I hate that, I just had a great idea and ... just forgot it :( |
| 15:57.34 | ProzaicMuze | Then re-enter it |
| 15:57.42 | Phaos | Yes |
| 15:57.46 | Phaos | no actually do that |
| 15:57.47 | Rommsteinz | vjeux, you suck. :D |
| 15:57.53 | Phaos | it would be awesome |
| 15:57.55 | ProzaicMuze | lmao |
| 15:58.03 | Phaos | I'm srs |
| 15:58.04 | ProzaicMuze | A gigantic red monster of death? |
| 15:58.07 | Phaos | yes |
| 15:58.10 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 15:58.19 | ProzaicMuze | I'll do it for fun later on then ;) |
| 15:58.22 | Phaos | and call it "Pimp 28b-x" |
| 15:58.24 | vjeux | oh yeah found it back: list how many times blizz is liking to us on their facebook page :p |
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| 15:58.39 | ProzaicMuze | I hope they link my Uberlisk video :( |
| 15:58.45 | ProzaicMuze | That'd be cool |
| 15:58.55 | ProzaicMuze | Prolly not though, because Blizzard hates me Xp |
| 15:58.58 | Phaos | that would be cool |
| 15:59.59 | Hookah604 | hi all |
| 16:00.05 | Phaos | yoh! |
| 16:00.13 | vjeux | hey Hookah604 |
| 16:00.59 | Hookah604 | does anybody have anyidea how to change background image, like in space platform terrain with the gaint planet. |
| 16:02.18 | naxxan | http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo270/chuckman24/obama_combo_jpg18e1cc24-38ed-4567-b.jpg |
| 16:02.28 | Pierro | How can I set so whenever i kill something which carries an Item in its Inventory it is getting destroyed as well |
| 16:06.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster Adys_ (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 16:06.31 | vjeux | ok so far 5 facebook posts are about mapster people work :) |
| 16:07.10 | nicoli_s | nice, blizz do another? |
| 16:08.40 | naxxan | OMFG GUYS |
| 16:08.58 | Rommsteinz | LMAO naxxan xD |
| 16:09.01 | naxxan | LOOOOOOK!!!!! =================------------------>>>>>>> http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii252/Holywarrior_2008/file-18.jpg |
| 16:09.24 | Rommsteinz | Well, gonna buy some weed in NY so :D |
| 16:10.07 | Ashamed | weeds in NY |
| 16:10.18 | Ashamed | i was just talkin about NYD :) |
| 16:11.27 | nicoli_s | i need to get an alternate nick so i can come on here and say what i please about some of the things you guys talk about :P |
| 16:11.52 | Ashamed | lol |
| 16:11.55 | vjeux | xD |
| 16:11.58 | Ashamed | talk about it medically |
| 16:12.01 | Ashamed | dude its tol legit then |
| 16:12.09 | Ashamed | and no one can say shit too you |
| 16:12.13 | Ashamed | You are just being a good admin |
| 16:12.14 | vjeux | nicoli_s: it's called /nick :p |
| 16:12.39 | nicoli_s | Ashamed:i live in alabama, no good medicine here :P |
| 16:12.54 | Ashamed | well doesn't mean you can't talk about medication from other states |
| 16:12.55 | Ashamed | ! |
| 16:13.16 | Rommsteinz | Weed is good, everywhere you can take it (A) |
| 16:13.18 | Ashamed | I live in colorado.. I started a conversation about a tol legal proccess here. You should be able to put your input then! |
| 16:13.41 | Ashamed | YES... You can smoke weed here LEGALLY! |
| 16:14.06 | Rommsteinz | o.o |
| 16:16.16 | naxxan | the FBI talks about weed man |
| 16:16.41 | Ashamed | yeah man |
| 16:16.45 | Ashamed | if the FBI can talk abou tit |
| 16:16.46 | Ashamed | you can! |
| 16:16.50 | naxxan | dude... |
| 16:16.53 | naxxan | the NEWS talks about it.. ready? |
| 16:16.54 | naxxan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsIa3u2egvE |
| 16:16.55 | naxxan | go there |
| 16:17.05 | naxxan | funniest news report you will ever fucking see |
| 16:17.17 | Ashamed | I have a forrest of it! |
| 16:17.26 | Ashamed | I have 6 strains! |
| 16:17.50 | nicoli_s | lol well itsj ust a matter of professionalism |
| 16:17.55 | Ashamed | lol |
| 16:18.04 | nicoli_s | as much as id like to say whatever id like, i do represent my company while im here |
| 16:18.06 | Ashamed | its my "Profession" |
| 16:18.34 | naxxan | we work at ibm |
| 16:18.36 | naxxan | on our lunches |
| 16:18.39 | naxxan | we go smoke weed |
| 16:18.47 | naxxan | sometimes :) |
| 16:18.56 | naxxan | ibm flew a trainer in from argentina |
| 16:18.57 | vjeux | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/4317-mapster-on-blizzard-facebook/ |
| 16:19.03 | naxxan | he came home with me, and we smoked at ashameds house |
| 16:19.13 | naxxan | (he didnt inhale though) |
| 16:19.16 | naxxan | lol |
| 16:20.34 | nicoli_s | thats so awesome vjeux |
| 16:20.51 | vjeux | yup |
| 16:21.09 | vjeux | we are famous :p |
| 16:21.10 | Ashamed | how about this nicoli.. I will quit the community.. "UNLESS" you talk to me about it!! |
| 16:21.12 | Ashamed | will that work? |
| 16:21.14 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 16:21.27 | nicoli_s | Ashamed: as much as talking to you is worth, its not worth a salary job :P |
| 16:21.41 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/rockumentary/. Rockumentary. Chizambers (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by vjeux. |
| 16:21.50 | naxxan | oh. heres something i found funnyyyy |
| 16:21.50 | naxxan | http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii252/Holywarrior_2008/file-26.jpg |
| 16:21.56 | Ashamed | lol |
| 16:22.24 | Ashamed | Thats not what my mommy says nicoli.. she says that money can't buy me! |
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| 16:23.01 | vjeux | what about $100 000? |
| 16:23.11 | Ashamed | nope |
| 16:23.15 | Ashamed | she says nothing |
| 16:23.26 | TheLaughingMan | Phaos |
| 16:24.00 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen phaos |
| 16:24.02 | purl | phaos is currently on #sc2mapster (3h 42m 55s). Has said a total of 148 messages. Is idling for 23m 57s, last said: 'yoh!'. |
| 16:24.02 | naxxan | just another thing money corrupts ashamed... FREEDOM OF POT SMOKING TALK |
| 16:24.20 | Ashamed | I knowZ |
| 16:24.20 | naxxan | btw -> http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo270/chuckman24/3182589885_0d3d46501d.jpg |
| 16:24.21 | Ashamed | wtf! |
| 16:24.40 | vjeux | lol |
| 16:26.42 | nicoli_s | lol you people crack me up |
| 16:26.45 | Ashamed | lol |
| 16:26.50 | Ashamed | I am going to make a weed map |
| 16:26.54 | Ashamed | now can you talk about it? |
| 16:26.55 | Ashamed | as my map |
| 16:27.16 | naxxan | DUDES!!!! THIS GUY DID NOT LEAVE THE EMERGENCY ROOM!!! |
| 16:27.17 | naxxan | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/ctkeller25/Stuff/mobmain6.jpg |
| 16:27.27 | Ashamed | Its going to have growing/sales/ETC |
| 16:27.37 | Dustin | lmfao |
| 16:28.22 | Ashamed | I am going to open a dispensary / LAN Shop :)!! |
| 16:28.24 | naxxan | speaking of weed ashamed... are there any canadians in the house? |
| 16:28.38 | Clord | new version released of "THE Card Game" http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/card-game-vs-ai/files/11-the-card-game-vs-ai-1v1-v1-08/ |
| 16:28.42 | naxxan | ashamed, with that shop, have smokin hot chicks be waiters to deliver the chosen weed lol |
| 16:29.06 | Ashamed | .. it will be gangsta |
| 16:29.20 | Ashamed | what kind of nerd wouldn't go to a lan cafe that he could get high at |
| 16:29.26 | Ashamed | ... with hot waitresses |
| 16:29.28 | naxxan | with hot chicks to look at |
| 16:29.33 | naxxan | thats like a +++++ |
| 16:29.38 | naxxan | weed..games...hot chicks |
| 16:29.39 | Ashamed | ... i will be rich! |
| 16:29.50 | naxxan | are there any canadians in the house? |
| 16:29.53 | Ashamed | I might have to move the cali.. if weed gets legalized |
| 16:29.58 | naxxan | i want to show you all, WHEN CANADA WILL ENTER A WAR |
| 16:30.09 | Clord | have fun killing yourself then |
| 16:30.10 | Ashamed | When we take their pot? |
| 16:30.17 | Clord | :) |
| 16:30.27 | Ashamed | BC Budz |
| 16:30.27 | Ashamed | right?? |
| 16:30.36 | Ashamed | isn't that whats smoked up there? |
| 16:30.47 | naxxan | http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0801/canada-demotivational-poster-1200164469.jpg |
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| 16:30.58 | naxxan | thats when canada will goto war |
| 16:32.15 | Dustin | Someone say pot? |
| 16:32.20 | Dustin | :O |
| 16:32.21 | Clord | I have no idea of that drug dealer business |
| 16:32.22 | Clord | XD |
| 16:32.30 | naxxan | lol "drug dealer" |
| 16:32.38 | naxxan | you went to private schools didnt you |
| 16:33.04 | naxxan | i know |
| 16:33.07 | naxxan | because i too went to private schools |
| 16:33.19 | naxxan | i was never one to conform though... i do what i want |
| 16:36.24 | Ashamed | Pot is awesome! |
| 16:36.36 | Ashamed | I too not really a conformer.. but i love pot |
| 16:36.48 | Ashamed | I just started smoking it 2 years ago lol |
| 16:36.50 | Ashamed | and i loved it |
| 16:38.12 | depthsofchaos | oh the morals!! embrace jesus, you can still |
| 16:38.21 | naxxan | jesus smokes pot |
| 16:38.28 | Ashamed | http://store.steampowered.com/sub/4587/ |
| 16:38.34 | Ashamed | thought I would share this with you all |
| 16:38.47 | Ashamed | good deal |
| 16:38.52 | Ashamed | get like 10 games for 50 dollars |
| 16:39.29 | depthsofchaos | and you use 2 |
| 16:39.37 | vjeux | well, 10 useless games |
| 16:39.40 | vjeux | that's awesome :p |
| 16:39.58 | Ashamed | they are all pretty good games |
| 16:40.02 | Ashamed | i mean obv not the best games |
| 16:40.25 | Ashamed | but i think they are all worth 5 dollars a pce |
| 16:40.26 | naxxan | vjeux |
| 16:40.27 | Ashamed | its 20 games* |
| 16:40.27 | naxxan | regardless |
| 16:40.37 | naxxan | youre paying 50 bucks and saving 370 |
| 16:40.45 | naxxan | its a good deal, regardless of the games included |
| 16:40.54 | Rommsteinz | http://store.steampowered.com/app/43100/ lmao I want it |
| 16:41.10 | vjeux | well, making you buy stuff you doesn't need, doesn't make it a good deal :p |
| 16:41.27 | Ashamed | .. every game on that list are fun games |
| 16:41.31 | Ashamed | besusedes the zoo one |
| 16:41.33 | depthsofchaos | i hope you can rape the zoo animals |
| 16:41.34 | Ashamed | besides* |
| 16:41.35 | depthsofchaos | then i get it |
| 16:41.51 | Ashamed | Dawn of war = very solid RTS |
| 16:41.57 | Ashamed | Red faction = fun |
| 16:42.01 | depthsofchaos | but no one plays it? |
| 16:42.05 | Rommsteinz | XD |
| 16:42.26 | Ashamed | none of thema re older then 2007 |
| 16:42.32 | Ashamed | That is a good deal.. I dont care what you say |
| 16:43.05 | depthsofchaos | it is if you actually use more then 2 then definetly |
| 16:43.11 | Ashamed | you will |
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| 16:43.37 | depthsofchaos | well metro and stalker are good :o |
| 16:43.57 | Lazbro | hi |
| 16:43.59 | Lazbro | :( |
| 16:44.18 | Ashamed | its good for just the dawn of war pack |
| 16:44.29 | naxxan | you are paying, 50 dollars, for 420 dollars worth of games (btw 420!!!) LOL |
| 16:44.46 | naxxan | regardless of how you feel or if youre going to lpay those games |
| 16:44.59 | naxxan | you will have ALL Those games, $420 dollar value, for 50 dollars |
| 16:47.30 | naxxan | yeah no more talking back about "its not a good deal fuck that i wont even play those gaaaaames!!!" glad i could make you understand that you pay a 420 dollar bill with 50 dollars. |
| 16:47.48 | depthsofchaos | still i wont buy it :o |
| 16:47.52 | depthsofchaos | cause its not valuable for me |
| 16:47.53 | naxxan | i wont either |
| 16:48.01 | naxxan | but i know its a good deal |
| 16:48.01 | depthsofchaos | so its not worth it for me |
| 16:48.15 | naxxan | youre not worth it to me |
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| 16:48.23 | depthsofchaos | buhuhuuu |
| 16:48.30 | naxxan | heres a tissue for ur qq |
| 16:48.31 | Jcup | herro world :D |
| 16:48.31 | naxxan | :) |
| 16:48.36 | naxxan | jcup hi |
| 16:48.49 | naxxan | would you like to pay a 420 dollar bill for 50 dollars? |
| 16:48.55 | naxxan | would you consider that a good deal |
| 16:48.59 | naxxan | even if you didnt need anything inside |
| 16:49.08 | depthsofchaos | did i say it wasnt a good deal?:o |
| 16:49.29 | depthsofchaos | blus its 240 euros |
| 16:49.33 | Jcup | lol what |
| 16:49.40 | depthsofchaos | how does steam conversion work lol |
| 16:49.50 | naxxan | how about this |
| 16:49.54 | naxxan | 420.00 USD |
| 16:49.56 | naxxan | pay that |
| 16:50.00 | naxxan | with 50.00 USD |
| 16:50.00 | Jcup | It has chat boxes |
| 16:50.13 | naxxan | for 20 items |
| 16:50.17 | Jcup | sure that sounds good lol |
| 16:50.23 | depthsofchaos | its 240 euro -> downpriced to 50 euro |
| 16:50.29 | depthsofchaos | 420 dollar to 50 |
| 16:50.32 | depthsofchaos | makes no sense |
| 16:50.40 | naxxan | http://store.steampowered.com/sub/4587/ |
| 16:50.53 | naxxan | i dont know how to convert, ask a bank to do that |
| 16:50.57 | naxxan | i said usd |
| 16:51.01 | naxxan | usd=united states dollars |
| 16:51.10 | naxxan | you can convert it into your own currency at google |
| 16:51.21 | Jcup | ha wow |
| 16:51.29 | depthsofchaos | i mean steam sells it for euro in europe |
| 16:51.34 | depthsofchaos | you cant buy it for dollar |
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| 16:51.46 | naxxan | ah |
| 16:51.58 | naxxan | they might have a different deal |
| 16:52.01 | naxxan | to different countries |
| 16:52.03 | naxxan | idk |
| 16:52.10 | Ashamed | how much is it dropped in europe? |
| 16:52.20 | naxxan | i think 1.2 USD = 1.0 euro |
| 16:52.24 | depthsofchaos | its 240 euro -> downpriced to 50 euro |
| 16:52.30 | Ashamed | wtf |
| 16:52.35 | Ashamed | its less of a deal for you |
| 16:52.43 | naxxan | 240 x 1.2 is what... 360 |
| 16:52.49 | depthsofchaos | yep quite lame |
| 16:52.55 | Ashamed | it cost less and they take less |
| 16:53.02 | naxxan | 50 x 1.2 is what 75 |
| 16:53.07 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 16:53.17 | naxxan | haha you gotta pay more |
| 16:53.23 | depthsofchaos | euro is worth more then dollar |
| 16:53.25 | depthsofchaos | doesnt cost less |
| 16:53.27 | Ashamed | It cost less to them.. to buy it all. But we pay less for the package |
| 16:53.36 | Ashamed | 240 = not more then 420 |
| 16:53.38 | Ashamed | not no way |
| 16:54.05 | depthsofchaos | yeah |
| 16:54.12 | depthsofchaos | quite interesting pricing |
| 16:54.37 | naxxan | 1.00 USD=0.815275 EUR |
| 16:54.44 | naxxan | http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi?Amount=1&From=USD&To=EUR&image.x=44&image.y=15&image=Submit |
| 16:55.06 | naxxan | 1 EUR = 1.22658 USD |
| 16:55.20 | naxxan | 240 x 1.22658 is... calculator program! 1 sec |
| 16:55.47 | naxxan | 294.3792 |
| 16:55.59 | naxxan | 50 x 1.22658 |
| 16:56.13 | Phaos | "Tactical AI" is combat behavior correct ? |
| 16:56.14 | Lazbro | what does it mean about your map when you post it at Projects and nobody even looks at the thread :p |
| 16:56.16 | naxxan | 61.329 |
| 16:56.44 | naxxan | so you pay 61.329 euros for our 50 usd... let me divide that |
| 16:56.56 | Phaos | nothing. mine has gone un looked at |
| 16:57.43 | naxxan | its the same price |
| 16:57.45 | naxxan | to find |
| 16:57.51 | vjeux | Lazbro: link it here plz |
| 16:57.54 | naxxan | its 50 x 1.22658 |
| 16:58.01 | naxxan | which is 61.329 |
| 16:58.12 | Ashamed | so it cost less in europe but the deal cost more |
| 16:58.14 | Ashamed | thats so funny |
| 16:58.47 | depthsofchaos | based on sales i guess |
| 16:58.50 | naxxan | whats the price in euros for that package depths? |
| 16:59.08 | naxxan | if it were equal to USD amount it SHOULD be 61.329 euro |
| 16:59.11 | Lazbro | vjeux: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/4293-forlorn-hope-4v2-competitive-attack-defense/ but I'm not trying to elicit sympathy because that won't help on b.net, I need to find out what's WRONG with the concept and WHY nobody cares :( |
| 16:59.27 | depthsofchaos | oh its not 240 but 290 still thats not 420 dollars |
| 16:59.37 | naxxan | ok let me use conversion to find that for u |
| 16:59.43 | Lazbro | naxxan: thanks to socialism the euro nosedived so yes I guess it's the same as the US amount now |
| 16:59.55 | vjeux | dunno :x |
| 17:00.10 | naxxan | 355.7082 USD for 290 euro |
| 17:00.54 | naxxan | and the price after the discount in euro depthsofchaos?? |
| 17:01.20 | naxxan | you said it was 50 euro for the package right? with the discount? |
| 17:01.20 | depthsofchaos | 50 euros |
| 17:01.22 | Rommsteinz | @Lazbro : Maybe post a link to the map, if you can ? ^^ |
| 17:01.44 | Lazbro | it's 80% done but not 100% :p I have something playable but it requires some editor hax... |
| 17:01.53 | naxxan | 61.329 USD = 50 euro |
| 17:02.07 | naxxan | youre paying 11 USD more than we are |
| 17:02.09 | Rommsteinz | Ok, I'm sure that when you'll release it, it will interest more people :D |
| 17:02.22 | Lazbro | the entire Projects forum has unreleased maps in them |
| 17:02.35 | Rommsteinz | That's true x') |
| 17:02.36 | depthsofchaos | so 300 dollar save in europe 370 in america :p |
| 17:02.46 | Lazbro | what puzzles me is that nobody even clicks on the thread - and I suspect it's got to do with the map being a defense map... somehow |
| 17:02.50 | Lazbro | or 4v2... |
| 17:02.54 | naxxan | which is...4.8547974225439138494130108570924e-4 euro more |
| 17:02.55 | Lazbro | bleh |
| 17:03.00 | Rommsteinz | Anyway, keep it up, I guess it will have more success when released :P |
| 17:03.03 | Rommsteinz | Good luck :) |
| 17:03.04 | Lazbro | you only get one chance at b.net due to popularity sort :( |
| 17:03.34 | Lazbro | pour ton info: http://modsbylaz.hugelaser.com/(6) Forlorn Hope v006.sc2map ~ current status, but it needs to have players 1-6 set to computer except yourself. |
| 17:03.51 | naxxan | so if we ALL used the euro, youd end up paying just about 5 euro more than americans would |
| 17:04.04 | naxxan | wasnt there some new tax over there? |
| 17:04.20 | naxxan | i think i saw something about a new tax being put up in europe |
| 17:04.35 | Rommsteinz | Lazbro, french ? |
| 17:04.43 | depthsofchaos | theres no global tax in europe |
| 17:04.46 | depthsofchaos | afaik |
| 17:05.02 | naxxan | well if theres no tax, then they HAVE to charge u more |
| 17:05.09 | Ashamed | why.. because their leaders are not tyrants! |
| 17:05.11 | naxxan | steam = they |
| 17:05.22 | naxxan | steams charging you more because they cant tax you on it |
| 17:05.25 | Lazbro | Rommsteinz: no, but sometimes I confuse the several dialects of foreignish :( |
| 17:05.32 | Ashamed | steam doesn't get more money for tax |
| 17:05.49 | depthsofchaos | if theres no tax they charge less |
| 17:05.50 | Rommsteinz | lol :D |
| 17:05.53 | Lazbro | [19:03]<naxxan>i think i saw something about a new tax being put up in europe --- oh, non stop. :p |
| 17:05.54 | depthsofchaos | unless they pay the tax for us |
| 17:06.54 | naxxan | 1 sec on that ashamed |
| 17:07.26 | depthsofchaos | but naxxan your theory is wrong cause the whole pack is cheaper then your whole pack |
| 17:07.33 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 17:07.37 | Ashamed | it cost less there steve |
| 17:07.41 | Ashamed | so the percentage is less too |
| 17:07.50 | Rommsteinz | Lazbro, AHHHHHHHH the bunker explode, I only get 50 HP xD |
| 17:08.05 | Lazbro | damage is based on distance :) |
| 17:08.11 | naxxan | my steam store isnt working GAHDSFGA |
| 17:08.17 | Lazbro | but yes explosion damage needs to increase |
| 17:08.30 | naxxan | he is paying 50 euro |
| 17:08.33 | naxxan | right |
| 17:08.37 | naxxan | our price is 49.99 |
| 17:08.39 | naxxan | right |
| 17:08.40 | Lazbro | also exploding barrels are currently useless, the viking is OP and I think the zerg hero is OP as well |
| 17:08.42 | naxxan | basically 50 also |
| 17:08.45 | naxxan | 50 euro is more than 50 usd |
| 17:09.17 | Lazbro | hard to test before the next beta phase but I need at least some popularity before I can GET testers |
| 17:09.40 | Rommsteinz | I'm gonna post, don't care |
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| 17:12.17 | naxxan | and i was wrong abuot the total amount we save. hold on |
| 17:12.19 | TheLaughingMan | ~seen Phaos |
| 17:12.22 | purl | phaos is currently on #sc2mapster (4h 31m 15s). Has said a total of 150 messages. Is idling for 15m 26s, last said: 'nothing. mine has gone un looked at'. |
| 17:12.50 | Phaos | sup |
| 17:12.58 | naxxan | 404.81 is the cost to buy each game individually |
| 17:13.03 | TheLaughingMan | Figure anything out Phaos? |
| 17:13.06 | naxxan | 99.99 is to buy the whole package without the sale |
| 17:13.15 | naxxan | 49.99 is after the sale price |
| 17:13.24 | Phaos | doesn't look like it's going to happen in the next few hours TheLaughingMan installing max is not going to plan |
| 17:13.27 | TheLaughingMan | ? |
| 17:13.31 | Phaos | so I'm downloadign the latest installer |
| 17:13.33 | TheLaughingMan | Damn |
| 17:13.37 | Phaos | yeah :s |
| 17:13.52 | Phaos | but I promise you I'll get to it :) |
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| 17:14.03 | Phaos | keep playing around with the "UVunwrap" mod tho |
| 17:14.17 | TheLaughingMan | I can't find the slice option |
| 17:14.22 | depthsofchaos | naxxan lol 99.99 euro for the package here too |
| 17:14.26 | naxxan | 404.81 USD is 330 EURO (buy all games individually) |
| 17:14.26 | Phaos | it's not called slice is why :) |
| 17:14.31 | depthsofchaos | i forgot steam had this euro = dollar policy rofl |
| 17:14.47 | TheLaughingMan | What is it under? |
| 17:14.50 | Phaos | what your looking for is a way to change where the UV map is projected from |
| 17:14.54 | naxxan | 99.99 USD is 81.51 euro for the package price |
| 17:15.00 | Phaos | "plane" |
| 17:15.14 | depthsofchaos | so that 20 dollar rip |
| 17:15.15 | Phaos | from what I can tell you want to project it about halway through the ship long ways |
| 17:15.21 | Phaos | halfway |
| 17:15.36 | naxxan | 50 USD is 40.76 euro (after sale cost) |
| 17:15.50 | naxxan | so you should be paying 40.76 euro, for the same pack that we should be paying 50 usd for |
| 17:16.43 | naxxan | where it says on my screen "cost to you: $49.99" |
| 17:16.46 | naxxan | what does it say for you depths |
| 17:17.12 | depthsofchaos | 49.99 euro this is steam crap |
| 17:17.36 | naxxan | i have shown you a link where 1.22658 USD is = 1.0 Euro |
| 17:17.44 | naxxan | so now we can assume that a euro is more than a dollar |
| 17:17.51 | naxxan | in which case you are paying more, not less |
| 17:18.01 | depthsofchaos | but steam considers it equal |
| 17:18.11 | naxxan | assuming we consider all currency equal |
| 17:18.25 | TheLaughingMan | naxxan, your not understanding the point |
| 17:18.35 | naxxan | im not |
| 17:18.42 | naxxan | thats why im still on it >< |
| 17:19.01 | naxxan | depths, for the individual price |
| 17:19.03 | naxxan | how many euro is it |
| 17:19.03 | TheLaughingMan | Steam considers that 1USD = 1Euro and doesn't convert the prices |
| 17:19.15 | naxxan | 404.81? |
| 17:19.25 | naxxan | alright, my point isnt about staem |
| 17:19.51 | naxxan | my point is that a euro is more than a dollar, and if they pay the same amount in euros as we do in usd, they are paying more than we are and should not be paying more. |
| 17:20.03 | Lazbro | oh, wait a few weeks |
| 17:20.05 | depthsofchaos | http://kotaku.com/5115340/dollar-no-longer-weak-vs-euro-on-steam |
| 17:20.07 | Lazbro | soon a euro will be less than a dollar |
| 17:20.15 | depthsofchaos | not rly |
| 17:20.46 | depthsofchaos | unless your planing a terrorist attack! |
| 17:20.47 | naxxan | ah |
| 17:20.50 | depthsofchaos | you're |
| 17:20.57 | naxxan | so steams been screwing you guys since dec 17 |
| 17:21.01 | Lazbro | no, I'm just watching politics |
| 17:21.15 | depthsofchaos | yep an online store that has regional pricing |
| 17:21.17 | Lazbro | Belgian politics - fun for the whole family |
| 17:21.18 | depthsofchaos | funny |
| 17:21.44 | depthsofchaos | are american politicians notO.o |
| 17:22.09 | naxxan | if you can call american politics political |
| 17:22.10 | Lazbro | 'oh, is the country going to split up THIS time? How many months until the next govt is formed? Will it last a year? How many foreign investors will we lose this time? Is the government finally going to match the results of the actual votes?' |
| 17:22.54 | naxxan | im supposefd to be workin lol |
| 17:23.09 | TheLaughingMan | Phaos I think I got it to work |
| 17:23.15 | Phaos | Woot! |
| 17:23.19 | naxxan | ive only done 6 tickets since 5AM.. its 11:23 for me now |
| 17:23.23 | naxxan | lol! |
| 17:23.30 | naxxan | 1 ticket per hour |
| 17:23.30 | Phaos | take a screeny an show me :) |
| 17:23.31 | naxxan | i rock |
| 17:23.52 | TheLaughingMan | Normal UV Unwrap, followed by UVW Xform and just flip it on the V |
| 17:24.57 | TheLaughingMan | How do I change the render settings so it isn't white |
| 17:25.21 | Lazbro | I dunno, I'd just flip it the B at that point. |
| 17:25.22 | Lazbro | :p |
| 17:27.14 | TheLaughingMan | Phaos |
| 17:28.26 | Phaos | yah ? |
| 17:28.37 | TheLaughingMan | How do I change the rendering settings so it isn't white |
| 17:32.04 | Phaos | show me the render |
| 17:32.13 | Phaos | there are many "white" problems :P |
| 17:32.41 | Ashamed | was that raceist phaos? |
| 17:33.02 | Phaos | intentional unintentionalism? yes |
| 17:33.22 | Ashamed | oh yeah |
| 17:33.32 | Ashamed | ... You have a problem with "WHITE" People? |
| 17:33.47 | naxxan | what like rednecks? |
| 17:33.57 | depthsofchaos | is it possible to check if a unit can reach a target point? |
| 17:34.07 | depthsofchaos | or is there pathing from point to point |
| 17:34.22 | naxxan | a unit will always try to go where you tell it to |
| 17:34.26 | naxxan | regardless if it can or cant |
| 17:34.49 | naxxan | because youre the maser, and you told it to go there |
| 17:34.52 | naxxan | master |
| 17:34.54 | depthsofchaos | doesnt matter if it cnat reach it |
| 17:35.11 | naxxan | no, way to test? to to send a ground unit somewhere you know it cant |
| 17:35.14 | naxxan | watch its progress |
| 17:35.25 | naxxan | itll try to get there, run around a lil bit then stop |
| 17:35.31 | Lazbro | spawn a speed 160 ground unit |
| 17:35.35 | Lazbro | check again after 1 sec |
| 17:35.37 | Lazbro | see if it's there |
| 17:35.44 | naxxan | ive done it |
| 17:35.46 | naxxan | on melee |
| 17:35.47 | depthsofchaos | :/ thats rly ugly |
| 17:35.48 | naxxan | in a real game |
| 17:36.03 | naxxan | i tried sending a scv up to a new base, but it had debris in the way |
| 17:36.24 | naxxan | it ran around the cliff the new base was on and stopped eventually after figuring out it cannot reach |
| 17:36.31 | TheLaughingMan | Grr |
| 17:36.39 | depthsofchaos | that lame |
| 17:36.41 | depthsofchaos | s |
| 17:36.44 | TheLaughingMan | Can't wait till they install Uverse on Saturday |
| 17:36.51 | depthsofchaos | how do people in tower defense detect it? |
| 17:37.17 | naxxan | what do you mean |
| 17:37.31 | naxxan | trying to place a tower that the builder cant reach? |
| 17:37.33 | depthsofchaos | you can block units way and they destroy the path if its blocked |
| 17:37.45 | depthsofchaos | but otherwise jsut follow it |
| 17:37.58 | TheLaughingMan | They normally sent a special unit that checks |
| 17:37.58 | naxxan | make the towers indestructible |
| 17:38.10 | depthsofchaos | this is not td just an example |
| 17:38.12 | naxxan | are you trying to make it so they have to maze through the towers? |
| 17:38.16 | naxxan | oh |
| 17:38.25 | TheLaughingMan | Phaos, check your email |
| 17:38.26 | naxxan | well first off because they are not on your team |
| 17:39.08 | naxxan | im not entirely sure about all that |
| 17:39.14 | naxxan | im thinking on it and its deeper than i know about |
| 17:39.21 | Phaos | AHHAH! I am feeling pretty good about my Data editor skills now, I just created what I like to think is a pretty complex relationship between units :P |
| 17:39.22 | naxxan | from what i can remember from sc1 and wc3 |
| 17:39.30 | naxxan | srry |
| 17:39.50 | naxxan | i mean, i could attempt to explain what im thinking but i cant type it out |
| 17:39.53 | naxxan | its too much |
| 17:40.00 | naxxan | diff scenarios etc |
| 17:40.10 | naxxan | diff reasons why it cold or couldnt happen. i just dont know |
| 17:40.12 | Phaos | primary building slowly spawns workers, if works are greater than a particular number a "slave mind" will spawn turning them all hostile. except for the ones you can implanted a control unit into |
| 17:40.15 | Phaos | as for the email |
| 17:40.16 | Phaos | checking now |
| 17:40.47 | TheLaughingMan | Using Tethering on my BJ2 sucks for upload |
| 17:40.58 | TheLaughingMan | Downloading I get a decent workable speed |
| 17:41.27 | Phaos | If I didn't know better TheLaughingMan I would say thats because of what renderer your using |
| 17:41.32 | depthsofchaos | well on my map i got bridges that are in the air and i want to detect if a bridge section gets separated in the air |
| 17:41.53 | depthsofchaos | i know the ugly way but thats just too ugly :o |
| 17:41.56 | Phaos | you don't have any lights in your scene do you TheLaughingMan? |
| 17:42.28 | TheLaughingMan | Not that I know of |
| 17:42.38 | TheLaughingMan | I created a brand new scene and just added the model |
| 17:43.49 | Phaos | ok then that rules out lights |
| 17:43.57 | Phaos | open the render options window |
| 17:44.24 | Phaos | scroll allll the way to the bottom, and there should be your selected renderer |
| 17:44.29 | Phaos | tell me what that is |
| 17:45.23 | TheLaughingMan | nvm got it working |
| 17:45.33 | TheLaughingMan | deleted the alpha channel on my texture .dds |
| 17:45.48 | Phaos | oops! my bad :P |
| 17:45.58 | Phaos | wait |
| 17:46.09 | Phaos | you needed it deleted didn't you ? |
| 17:46.37 | TheLaughingMan | Well all the tutorials I read said so |
| 17:47.50 | TheLaughingMan | Alright |
| 17:47.54 | Phaos | but apparently not :P |
| 17:47.59 | TheLaughingMan | Re-rendered now going to upload it to photobucket |
| 17:48.07 | Phaos | sweet |
| 17:48.15 | Phaos | gunna use it in sc2 xD ? |
| 17:48.20 | TheLaughingMan | Well |
| 17:48.24 | Phaos | I wonder if the eve guys would mind :P |
| 17:48.33 | TheLaughingMan | XD |
| 17:48.48 | TheLaughingMan | In there current formats of .obj and .dds it is 1.5 mb |
| 17:51.30 | Phaos | thats not too bad |
| 17:51.52 | Phaos | there isn't alot of data in those either, static meshes an all |
| 17:52.11 | Phaos | anyhoo. I'ma go get some shut eye |
| 17:52.21 | Lazbro | you're going to get into a boxing match? |
| 17:52.28 | Phaos | yes |
| 17:52.33 | Phaos | thats what I am doing |
| 17:52.35 | TheLaughingMan | Phaos wait |
| 17:52.37 | Phaos | your absolutely correct |
| 17:52.45 | Phaos | mmMMM? |
| 17:52.54 | TheLaughingMan | http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx46/7H3LaughingMan/FullyRendered.png |
| 17:53.12 | Phaos | sweet well done man :) |
| 17:53.14 | Lazbro | woo a QIREX! |
| 17:53.30 | naxxan | that is an awesome aircraft |
| 17:53.31 | naxxan | :) |
| 17:53.32 | Phaos | welcome to the infuriating world of UV maps :P |
| 17:53.52 | TheLaughingMan | Yea deleting the Alpha channel fixed most of the issues I noticed with the preview on 3DS Max |
| 17:53.57 | TheLaughingMan | that bottom right part |
| 17:54.22 | TheLaughingMan | I don't know if there are any windows that need to be lighted up but who cares |
| 17:54.57 | Phaos | heh take a look at the EVE online screenshots of that ship, and see what needs lights :P |
| 17:55.05 | Phaos | I think that ships called a reaper ? |
| 17:55.09 | Phaos | rifter! |
| 17:55.09 | TheLaughingMan | Rifter |
| 17:55.32 | Phaos | http://wensley.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/rifter.png |
| 17:55.40 | TheLaughingMan | There are two other textures one of them is meant for doing lightings |
| 17:55.49 | naxxan | oo |
| 17:56.23 | TheLaughingMan | Hmm |
| 17:56.25 | Phaos | what yours needs to be complete: a specular map, a bump map... and at your level. thats where I would call it a day |
| 17:56.42 | TheLaughingMan | Yea ingame it looks like it has a shiny metal finish |
| 17:56.53 | TheLaughingMan | I can also rip out the attachment points and add them |
| 17:56.58 | TheLaughingMan | there is a file with that info |
| 17:57.07 | Phaos | specular map tells lights how to reflect, bump map tells the render what /not/ to light |
| 17:57.30 | Phaos | however nowadays bumps are super primitive |
| 17:57.35 | TheLaughingMan | Isn't there a light emitting area? |
| 17:57.39 | Phaos | normals are all the rage |
| 17:57.49 | Phaos | emmision maps are a brand new thing :P |
| 17:58.04 | Phaos | I don't think EVE uses emission maps |
| 17:58.16 | TheLaughingMan | Cause the windows, which is really just the cockpit on the rifter lights up |
| 17:58.40 | Phaos | hmmmm |
| 17:59.06 | TheLaughingMan | There rather static to and they stay the same color no matter where they are |
| 17:59.25 | Phaos | that'll be a color map |
| 17:59.43 | Phaos | which acts as a kinda overlay on the diffuse map |
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| 17:59.58 | TheLaughingMan | Here |
| 18:00.15 | TheLaughingMan | Is the tutorial explaining how to setup the textures for Blender Usage |
| 18:00.30 | TheLaughingMan | http://www.4kits-studio.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46%3Aeve-models-and-blender&limitstart=1 |
| 18:00.51 | TheLaughingMan | Opacity Lights |
| 18:01.05 | Phaos | they are using emissives |
| 18:01.09 | Phaos | impressive |
| 18:01.11 | Phaos | thats the "glow" |
| 18:01.57 | TheLaughingMan | If you want to take a look at it you can |
| 18:02.29 | TheLaughingMan | I can't follow that in blender cause blender likes to crash and mirroring the uv is a pain |
| 18:02.33 | Phaos | already am :P |
| 18:03.02 | ProzaicMuze | So what is the Minny Rifter for? |
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| 18:03.19 | ProzaicMuze | Do I need to crack the Amarrian whip and get them slaves back teh work? |
| 18:03.35 | TheLaughingMan | Well once I get it working... |
| 18:03.36 | Phaos | roflz |
| 18:03.47 | TheLaughingMan | I can make a EvE Map! |
| 18:03.51 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 18:04.04 | Phaos | your whip won't reach me in my caraval |
| 18:04.07 | TheLaughingMan | The model exporter is a sanctioned tool by CCP |
| 18:04.08 | depthsofchaos | really need a good way to detect if a unit can reach a position, anyone?:o I could use graphs in worse case i know |
| 18:04.13 | ProzaicMuze | What I think would be awesome, is if someone made a model kit of things that would be great for attachments |
| 18:04.14 | TheLaughingMan | They allow you to export the models |
| 18:04.25 | ProzaicMuze | LIke spines, wings, guns, gun modifications etc. |
| 18:04.38 | Phaos | yeah |
| 18:04.46 | TheLaughingMan | Someone already is |
| 18:04.47 | Phaos | I might do that in the future sounds fun |
| 18:04.49 | ProzaicMuze | Ooh! |
| 18:04.55 | ProzaicMuze | You should get the guns from the ships! |
| 18:04.56 | Phaos | anyhoo I must depart |
| 18:04.57 | ProzaicMuze | I WANT DEM! |
| 18:05.02 | Phaos | eyes not staying open |
| 18:05.08 | ProzaicMuze | Yeah, some folks are, but not the GOOD attachment stuff |
| 18:05.19 | ProzaicMuze | Just fully rendered models which are unmatchnmixable |
| 18:05.38 | TheLaughingMan | Or even the T3 Ships |
| 18:05.41 | Phaos | well modeling is my job, so you never know. I might just do a the community a favor hurr hurr *blows own horn* |
| 18:05.45 | ProzaicMuze | You can't sleep. . . . how am I gonn amake the red monster if you're makin' your contest entry!? |
| 18:05.56 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 18:06.03 | ProzaicMuze | You're my modelling wench. Get to it! |
| 18:06.05 | Phaos | I have 8 days, I'll make it tommorrow |
| 18:06.32 | ProzaicMuze | That means I'll only have 7 days to make it better :( |
| 18:06.37 | ProzaicMuze | That's not enough time at all! I'll phail! |
| 18:06.47 | Phaos | I just finished my workers that stuff was tricky son. I'm not starting on my contest entry at 6am :P |
| 18:06.58 | ProzaicMuze | Xp |
| 18:07.05 | ProzaicMuze | excuses |
| 18:07.09 | ProzaicMuze | I understand. |
| 18:07.10 | Fatal5101 | MUZE |
| 18:07.12 | Fatal5101 | you are here! |
| 18:07.16 | Phaos | Night folks! I'll be back here in like... 8 hours |
| 18:07.16 | TheLaughingMan | No |
| 18:07.19 | TheLaughingMan | Having problem |
| 18:07.22 | TheLaughingMan | exporting |
| 18:07.26 | ProzaicMuze | Hey, I saw you message me yesterday, but I was off in RL land being busy |
| 18:07.43 | Fatal5101 | RL Land sounds like a scary place |
| 18:07.49 | Fatal5101 | i heard there is no respawn points. |
| 18:07.57 | ProzaicMuze | Nope :( |
| 18:08.05 | ProzaicMuze | You can't even save!!! |
| 18:08.10 | Fatal5101 | what!? |
| 18:08.14 | Fatal5101 | im never going there |
| 18:08.26 | ProzaicMuze | The boss fights are rigged too Xp |
| 18:08.50 | ProzaicMuze | How do you tank a boss that can kick you out of the dungeon!? |
| 18:09.12 | TheLaughingMan | I am trying to export my model now |
| 18:09.13 | TheLaughingMan | but |
| 18:09.14 | Fatal5101 | multiple tanks! |
| 18:09.14 | TheLaughingMan | but |
| 18:09.48 | TheLaughingMan | Unkown Property: "materialType" in shape0:Standard |
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| 18:18.27 | Triceron | Ahoy |
| 18:18.28 | depthsofchaos | ahah yay |
| 18:18.30 | depthsofchaos | native bool PointPathingIsConnected (point p1, point p2); |
| 18:18.55 | depthsofchaos | hope it works too |
| 18:23.23 | TheLaughingMan | Grr |
| 18:23.47 | Ashamed | 1 more hour1 |
| 18:23.48 | Ashamed | ! |
| 18:23.49 | Ashamed | !! |
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| 18:25.02 | sihastru | hello everyone |
| 18:26.22 | sihastru | could use some help with the editor, if anyone can lend a hand |
| 18:27.31 | Ashamed | whats up ? |
| 18:28.52 | Sixen | Rawr. |
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| 18:30.58 | Ashamed | sixen the fam gone? |
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| 18:31.40 | nicoli_s | wb sixen |
| 18:32.16 | TheLaughingMan | Grrr |
| 18:32.34 | Ashamed | rrrG |
| 18:32.36 | Sixen | Not yet, Ashamed. Today's the last day :p |
| 18:32.37 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.41 | Ashamed | wow shit |
| 18:32.44 | Ashamed | thats a long fam meeting |
| 18:32.48 | Ashamed | like 2 weeks? |
| 18:32.50 | Ashamed | or 1 |
| 18:32.50 | Sixen | One week :P |
| 18:32.56 | Ashamed | thats still long |
| 18:32.57 | Ashamed | lol |
| 18:33.08 | Ashamed | 3-4 days and I am good :) |
| 18:33.13 | Sixen | :P |
| 18:33.22 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 18:33.38 | Ashamed | you guys hit that water park up? |
| 18:33.50 | Sixen | no :X |
| 18:33.52 | Sixen | lazyness. |
| 18:33.54 | Ashamed | oh |
| 18:33.57 | Ashamed | do anything cool? |
| 18:34.00 | Ashamed | mass killings? |
| 18:34.01 | Ashamed | you know |
| 18:34.15 | Sixen | Played a game called Quelf |
| 18:34.23 | Sixen | only because it sounded like queef. |
| 18:34.27 | Ashamed | ... lol |
| 18:34.32 | RoarMan_ | Hi Ashamed! |
| 18:34.32 | Ashamed | i was wondering if thats where you were going |
| 18:34.35 | Sixen | :) |
| 18:34.36 | RoarMan_ | Hi Alpha_vst! |
| 18:34.37 | Ashamed | What is up |
| 18:34.39 | RoarMan_ | Hi Sixen! |
| 18:34.42 | Alpha_vst | hi |
| 18:34.45 | Sixen | hai2u |
| 18:34.45 | RoarMan | Muhaha. |
| 18:34.49 | RoarMan | Hahai. |
| 18:37.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster casperb (51bf6a9e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.191.106.158) |
| 18:38.48 | casperb | boh! |
| 18:39.03 | RoarMan | Hi casperb |
| 18:39.09 | naxxan | roarman :( |
| 18:39.16 | naxxan | rawr |
| 18:39.17 | casperb | Fresh meat? |
| 18:39.38 | naxxan | ashamed, we just had a gdf meeting right... you know what ive noticed about them? |
| 18:39.43 | naxxan | i always start falling asleep |
| 18:39.50 | naxxan | like im wide awake again now that its over. |
| 18:39.58 | casperb | gdf? |
| 18:40.06 | naxxan | global delivery framework |
| 18:40.07 | TheLaughingMan | gRR |
| 18:40.11 | TheLaughingMan | Need to fix this |
| 18:40.36 | Alpha_vst | yeah? |
| 18:41.06 | TheLaughingMan | It says the material is unkown but I know know how to fix it |
| 18:41.32 | casperb | hm i'll assume import/export pipeline? |
| 18:42.00 | TheLaughingMan | Unkown Property: "materialType" in shape0:Standard |
| 18:42.01 | RoarMan | Naxxan! |
| 18:42.48 | casperb | where tho, 3ds, GE |
| 18:42.50 | naxxan | i rawred already roarman |
| 18:42.55 | RoarMan | RAWWWWWWWWWWWWR! |
| 18:42.58 | RoarMan | I RARW BACCK! |
| 18:43.01 | naxxan | nah man |
| 18:43.09 | RoarMan | LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU IM THE RARW MAN |
| 18:43.11 | naxxan | im going ot lunch |
| 18:43.11 | TheLaughingMan | I am in 3DS trying to export it |
| 18:43.14 | RoarMan | PEACE NAXXAN |
| 18:43.20 | naxxan | 30 minutes only |
| 18:43.21 | RoarMan | Hey TheLaughingMna. |
| 18:43.28 | RoarMan | Beta starts up tommorow right? |
| 18:43.33 | Lazbro | hmm |
| 18:43.33 | casperb | doubt it |
| 18:43.35 | Lazbro | well |
| 18:43.36 | TheLaughingMan | idk |
| 18:43.36 | Lazbro | :p |
| 18:43.39 | Lazbro | next week irc |
| 18:43.45 | Lazbro | and release delayed by a month, supposedly |
| 18:43.54 | Triceron | Laughingman, your materials have to be Starcraft 2 type |
| 18:43.56 | Triceron | not standard |
| 18:44.05 | TheLaughingMan | but it says standard is ok |
| 18:44.11 | Triceron | no |
| 18:44.16 | casperb | nah has to be sc2 standard |
| 18:44.18 | Triceron | Multishader and Starcraft 2 type |
| 18:44.25 | casperb | (sc2 has multiple material types aswell) |
| 18:44.27 | TheLaughingMan | Material type must be 'Starcraft 2', 'Standard', or 'Multimaterial' type. |
| 18:44.28 | RoarMan | WTF |
| 18:44.33 | Triceron | and all your bitmaps must be Starcraft 2 Bitmap type |
| 18:44.46 | Triceron | are you getting an error? |
| 18:44.54 | TheLaughingMan | how do you fix it then |
| 18:44.56 | Triceron | then listen to what I'm saying |
| 18:45.02 | casperb | They can't push back release now, since it's on big billboards in all the stores that it's being released 27th |
| 18:45.09 | Triceron | go into the material editor |
| 18:45.17 | Triceron | I think hotkey was like shift M or something |
| 18:46.07 | TheLaughingMan | Ok |
| 18:46.09 | Triceron | http://www.rozengain.com/bblog/templates/rozengain/images/papervision3d/3ds-Max-Material-Editor.png Look at where it says Standard on this pic |
| 18:46.35 | Triceron | change that to Starcraft 2 type. If you don't have Starcraft 2 type in your list, then you have to check your Plugin folder and make sure sc2object.ms is in there. |
| 18:46.46 | TheLaughingMan | ok |
| 18:47.20 | Triceron | after that, make sure all the image files you're bringing in are using Starcraft 2 Bitmap, and you should be gravy |
| 18:47.35 | Triceron | oh yeah, I was dreaming yesterday that I was eating fries with gravy |
| 18:47.36 | Triceron | it was so good |
| 18:47.51 | TheLaughingMan | How do I change the images? |
| 18:48.13 | casperb | Triceron's dreams? don't think you can change them :o |
| 18:48.20 | TheLaughingMan | Wait |
| 18:48.22 | casperb | Maybe try calling TriceronSetDream |
| 18:48.22 | TheLaughingMan | I think it worked.. |
| 18:48.23 | Triceron | okay so when you make your material Starcraft 2, you'll see the editor change |
| 18:48.35 | TheLaughingMan | I changed the types |
| 18:48.39 | Triceron | youll see diffuse, specular etc |
| 18:49.05 | Triceron | any of those that you change will have to have Starcraft 2 Bitmap. It'll prompt for you; and if not it's the same area to change as your material. |
| 18:49.56 | Triceron | any of you non canadians heard of poutine? |
| 18:50.03 | Triceron | it's sooo goood |
| 18:50.28 | RoarMan | Poutine is baling! |
| 18:50.32 | RoarMan | Balling* |
| 18:50.33 | Ashamed | what is that? |
| 18:50.39 | Ashamed | is it weed? |
| 18:50.40 | RoarMan | Fries with gravy and curds of cheese. |
| 18:50.47 | RoarMan | No Ashamed but it's awesome munchies |
| 18:50.48 | TheLaughingMan | How do I import it into SC2 now |
| 18:51.07 | Ashamed | CURDS OF CHEESE IS ALWAYS GOOD! |
| 18:51.14 | Ashamed | chedder? |
| 18:51.26 | Triceron | no, not cheddar |
| 18:51.30 | Triceron | well I guess you can? |
| 18:51.32 | TheLaughingMan | wait wtf |
| 18:51.35 | TheLaughingMan | i lost it! |
| 18:51.40 | Triceron | but usually it's mozza I think? a white cheese at any rate |
| 18:51.44 | Triceron | cheese curds |
| 18:51.51 | RoarMan | Yea it's usually mozza |
| 18:51.54 | RoarMan | rella. |
| 18:51.55 | Ashamed | oh |
| 18:51.56 | RoarMan | Mmmm. |
| 18:52.01 | Triceron | its meltier |
| 18:52.04 | Ashamed | mozza = best cheese |
| 18:52.04 | Triceron | and awesome |
| 18:52.07 | TheLaughingMan | Please work! |
| 18:52.31 | Triceron | I feel like having it tomorrow |
| 18:52.40 | Triceron | I'll hav to convince my friends |
| 18:52.40 | Ashamed | Send me some |
| 18:52.48 | TheLaughingMan | I lost my editor! |
| 18:52.53 | Triceron | you'll have to come to Canadia |
| 18:52.54 | Ashamed | It kinda looks like chille frys |
| 18:52.58 | Ashamed | fries* |
| 18:53.01 | Triceron | it's a Canadian specialty |
| 18:53.10 | Ashamed | I bet i could find it |
| 18:53.21 | TheLaughingMan | I just did a fresh install of SC@ |
| 18:53.22 | TheLaughingMan | and |
| 18:53.25 | TheLaughingMan | it's broken |
| 18:53.32 | TheLaughingMan | It doesn't update |
| 18:53.41 | Triceron | you need to download the patches externally |
| 18:53.44 | TheLaughingMan | And it has 1 update folder |
| 18:53.47 | TheLaughingMan | Where? |
| 18:53.48 | Triceron | cuz bnet won't update for you |
| 18:53.59 | TheLaughingMan | WHERE ARE THE PATCHES! |
| 18:54.02 | Triceron | you'll have to search. I saw patches posted up somewhere before |
| 18:54.15 | Triceron | someone posted on bnet or beta forums. Try googling or something. |
| 18:54.17 | Ashamed | http://www.guidespot.com/guides/spotting_poutine |
| 18:54.18 | MaxMode1 | http://www.starcraft2patch.net/ |
| 18:54.18 | Ashamed | owned |
| 18:54.24 | Ashamed | there is some like 30 minutes away from me |
| 18:54.29 | Ashamed | and he is froam canida |
| 18:54.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster Barter (~Bart@189.4.113.213) |
| 18:54.52 | Ashamed | Canada* |
| 18:55.39 | Triceron | you gotta get some |
| 18:55.42 | Triceron | cuz it's awesome |
| 18:55.55 | Ashamed | nvm |
| 18:55.58 | Ashamed | they all say its gross :( |
| 18:56.02 | Triceron | I didn't actually get to eat any in my dream, which kinda sucked |
| 18:56.05 | Triceron | I only had fries and gravy |
| 18:56.10 | Triceron | I ordered poutine tho |
| 18:56.24 | TheLaughingMan | Stupid ass patches |
| 18:56.31 | Pierro | My Sim and Dungeon Keeper Building system is OK !! |
| 18:56.41 | Pierro | just to let you know |
| 18:56.41 | Triceron | You'd think they be able to pack up all the patches into one, eh? |
| 18:56.51 | Triceron | ooh dungeon keeper! |
| 18:56.57 | Triceron | I wanna play that SC2 style |
| 18:57.19 | nicoli_s | ahhh sweet canda, i almost lost my virginity to a candian girl |
| 18:57.28 | Ashamed | in canada? |
| 18:57.32 | Ashamed | or she was in America? |
| 18:57.33 | nicoli_s | nah, in france |
| 18:57.36 | Ashamed | oh |
| 18:57.39 | Ashamed | that counts i guess |
| 18:57.43 | Pierro | lol |
| 18:57.44 | nicoli_s | was on a school trip and a canadian school went with us |
| 18:58.05 | sihastru | anyone good with the editor got time for a few questions? |
| 18:58.09 | Ashamed | wnat to hear something freaky about a Canadian girl i use to know? |
| 18:58.29 | nicoli_s | sure |
| 18:58.38 | TheLaughingMan | Was she freaky? |
| 18:58.46 | nicoli_s | sihastru:just ask questions around here, people will chime in |
| 18:58.56 | nicoli_s | the general rule of IRc is you never ask to ask, you just ask :) |
| 18:58.59 | Ashamed | When I play ff11.... There was this one Canadian girl that I played with... She worked for the Candian goverment and everything... but she was freaky. She started telling me how she had dreams about our characters and stuff |
| 18:59.06 | nicoli_s | haha |
| 18:59.11 | Ashamed | and she would put SS on her work computer.. and her employees would make fun of her |
| 18:59.20 | Ashamed | and.. she had two kids that played too |
| 18:59.23 | sihastru | well,don`t wanna clog up the chat with it,usually take questions to private :) |
| 18:59.26 | sihastru | but yeah |
| 18:59.29 | casperb | How to ask a question, http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 18:59.35 | Ashamed | and they started messaging me and shit |
| 18:59.41 | Ashamed | and one of them was like you arn't my daddy |
| 18:59.46 | Ashamed | and crazy ass shit |
| 18:59.53 | sihastru | how do i make a transport with units inside of it |
| 18:59.59 | Ashamed | ... but she would buy me gil |
| 19:00.01 | sihastru | and |
| 19:00.04 | Ashamed | so i didn't mind it too much |
| 19:00.05 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:00.17 | Ashamed | but she was the freakiest person I had ever met online |
| 19:00.22 | Pierro | lol |
| 19:00.40 | Ashamed | but she bought all my ninja gear |
| 19:00.41 | sihastru | how do I get a unit to have the upgrades already researched ( I managed to find out how to make stalkers have blink, but not 3/3/3 for example) |
| 19:00.44 | casperb | if you pm people you're bound to be ignored sihastru :P |
| 19:00.59 | Ashamed | which was like 5000 gold > if we related it to WOW |
| 19:01.07 | nicoli_s | sihastru:im not very proficient with the editor, but i imagine you could just tell the units to cast the ability to join the transport at map start |
| 19:01.21 | Triceron | is 5000 gold a lot? |
| 19:01.26 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 19:01.27 | Pierro | Use to be |
| 19:01.34 | Ashamed | it was really like 2 mil Gil |
| 19:01.36 | Pierro | 60 $ |
| 19:01.39 | Ashamed | because it was not wow |
| 19:01.43 | TheLaughingMan | There is also a piece of code to add a unit to a transport |
| 19:01.45 | casperb | sihastru: SetUpgradeLevel or something like it, trigger. |
| 19:01.49 | Triceron | $60 isn't a lot |
| 19:01.54 | Triceron | that's like the cost of a videogame |
| 19:01.57 | Ashamed | ... for some person you don't know |
| 19:01.59 | Ashamed | she bought that for me |
| 19:02.02 | Ashamed | I DIDNT EVEN KNOW HER |
| 19:02.14 | Pierro | Its your Online Mojo |
| 19:02.33 | sihastru | okay, I`m not quite sure how to do either of those |
| 19:02.40 | Ashamed | ... I am pretty sure if I ever moved to Canada... I could have a place to stay. But that would be strange too |
| 19:02.48 | casperb | sihastru: action -> set upgrade level for player |
| 19:03.05 | casperb | set or add, not hard to find anyways |
| 19:03.42 | TheLaughingMan | Gay ass patches |
| 19:03.46 | Ashamed | the freaky part of it all was.. i was like 15 |
| 19:03.50 | Ashamed | she was like 40 somthing |
| 19:04.02 | casperb | cradle robber o.o |
| 19:04.07 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:04.14 | casperb | Or whatever the term is in english |
| 19:04.19 | Ashamed | thats cool |
| 19:06.05 | TheLaughingMan | How do I apply patches now? |
| 19:09.10 | TheLaughingMan | I got them downloaded |
| 19:09.20 | Triceron | one at a time |
| 19:09.42 | TheLaughingMan | But how? |
| 19:09.45 | TheLaughingMan | Where? |
| 19:09.47 | Ashamed | with heat... or sewing. depending on the patch. Some also are attached by allastic bands. |
| 19:09.50 | TheLaughingMan | it says to put them in you folder |
| 19:09.59 | TheLaughingMan | and that is it |
| 19:10.40 | TheLaughingMan | Does not say what to do after that |
| 19:12.11 | TheLaughingMan | I tried to run SC2 but it just deletes them |
| 19:12.11 | MaxMode1 | launch sc2 and the updater should do the rest |
| 19:12.46 | naxxan | 5000 gold isnt a lot anymore |
| 19:12.47 | naxxan | >< |
| 19:12.59 | naxxan | 5000 is the general cost for a BoE epic |
| 19:13.02 | casperb | in WoW? |
| 19:13.02 | TheLaughingMan | MaxMode1, i tried that but it just deletes the files and doesn't update |
| 19:13.03 | naxxan | 15000 = a lot now |
| 19:13.05 | naxxan | in wow yes |
| 19:13.22 | casperb | nah economy is broken, 10k is like what 5 usd? |
| 19:13.33 | naxxan | something retarded.. if you want to risk buying gold |
| 19:13.38 | naxxan | if you do buy gold buy the smallest one a lot |
| 19:13.52 | naxxan | so on the logs in battle.net it isnt 50000 gold |
| 19:14.05 | naxxan | its 5000 1000 transactions |
| 19:14.07 | Triceron | how do gold farmers make money. I mean for them to make a legitimate business there has to be a LOT of lazy players |
| 19:14.08 | naxxan | or something to that effect |
| 19:14.18 | Triceron | gold isn't hard to make... |
| 19:14.27 | casperb | about 90% of wow players buy gold now so |
| 19:14.28 | naxxan | its not |
| 19:14.31 | naxxan | just buy the marks and sell them on the AH |
| 19:14.34 | casperb | inflation makes it the only way |
| 19:14.35 | Triceron | 90% |
| 19:14.41 | Triceron | where is that from |
| 19:14.49 | naxxan | ive bought gold once, for the epic training. that was before i started trying to make gold and found out how easy it is |
| 19:14.54 | naxxan | especially if youve got at least 2 80s |
| 19:15.01 | casperb | well 90% of people i know that play wow atleast :p |
| 19:15.09 | TheLaughingMan | Which is why I love the EvE Market |
| 19:15.20 | TheLaughingMan | Buying ISK doesn't inflate or deflate prices |
| 19:15.24 | casperb | EvE = suck on a monitor :p |
| 19:15.41 | casperb | WoW is too but, eve is like working a second crappy job o.o |
| 19:15.48 | Triceron | I knew ONE guy who bought gold |
| 19:15.57 | Triceron | but he played very infrequently |
| 19:16.02 | casperb | Most people lie about it tho :p |
| 19:16.31 | TheLaughingMan | You could buy 1Bil ISK for $30 and then buy $60 worth of Time Codes and get half off |
| 19:16.41 | TheLaughingMan | Trying to apply update but it fails |
| 19:16.56 | Triceron | when I played WoW |
| 19:17.09 | Triceron | it was more about the people I played with than the game itself |
| 19:17.15 | naxxan | guys guys gusy |
| 19:17.22 | naxxan | wow NOWADAYS sucks, this is a true statement |
| 19:17.33 | naxxan | vanilla wow (level cap = 60) was Great |
| 19:17.39 | casperb | Everything has turned into easy mode now |
| 19:17.40 | Triceron | no way |
| 19:17.40 | Ashamed | ff14 = going to be good i hope! |
| 19:17.51 | Triceron | ezmode has nothing to do with it |
| 19:17.56 | Ashamed | wow = easy mode to begin with thats what sucked abou tit |
| 19:18.01 | Ashamed | it was already the easiest MMO |
| 19:18.04 | Ashamed | and then they made it easier |
| 19:18.14 | naxxan | the end game content was not easy mode in vanilla wow |
| 19:18.17 | naxxan | go play nax 40 |
| 19:18.20 | naxxan | or bwl 40 |
| 19:18.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster Gohla (~user@53543F60.cable.casema.nl) |
| 19:18.43 | naxxan | where you actually had to do things in order to kill a boss or survive his spells/attacks |
| 19:18.51 | naxxan | now you just tank n spank EVERYTHING |
| 19:18.57 | naxxan | it started that way in Bc also |
| 19:18.59 | Ashamed | TANK N SPANK |
| 19:19.09 | Ashamed | There is a site online where girls can get payed to be spank |
| 19:19.11 | Ashamed | spanked* |
| 19:19.12 | Ashamed | no joke |
| 19:19.23 | Triceron | rule34 Ashamed |
| 19:19.24 | naxxan | but vanilla wow, even aq 20 and aq 40 those were amazingly fun |
| 19:19.36 | Ashamed | is that what the sites called? |
| 19:19.41 | Triceron | no |
| 19:19.48 | Triceron | the rules of the internet |
| 19:19.57 | naxxan | what are the rules of the internet |
| 19:20.01 | Ashamed | rule 34= spanking on the nets? |
| 19:20.02 | casperb | rule #42, be an asshole |
| 19:20.13 | naxxan | ive got rule 42 down to an art |
| 19:20.14 | casperb | oh wait, thats online gaming rules |
| 19:20.14 | TheLaughingMan | Rule #1, You don't talk about the rules |
| 19:20.22 | naxxan | thats fight club |
| 19:20.24 | naxxan | son |
| 19:20.27 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:20.29 | Triceron | if it exists |
| 19:20.35 | Triceron | there is porn of it |
| 19:20.35 | casperb | dude shhh! |
| 19:20.39 | naxxan | if it does im not in it |
| 19:20.43 | naxxan | cuz i just said fight club |
| 19:20.46 | casperb | shhh! |
| 19:20.53 | naxxan | or what |
| 19:21.00 | naxxan | some schizzos gonna shoot himself in the head |
| 19:21.04 | naxxan | and live |
| 19:21.05 | naxxan | lol |
| 19:21.09 | casperb | yeh :p |
| 19:21.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster Daeden (~a@94-195-209-10.zone9.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:21.24 | Triceron | HIS NAME WAS ROBERT PAULSON |
| 19:21.36 | naxxan | technically he had two names |
| 19:21.40 | naxxan | because he was a schizzo |
| 19:21.56 | naxxan | he introduced himself differently at different times -.- or am i completely wrong |
| 19:22.05 | naxxan | did he only have one name for both of his roles >< |
| 19:22.12 | naxxan | i dont really remember lol |
| 19:22.18 | Ashamed | I wish I had enough money.. to just pay girls to let me spank them :( |
| 19:22.32 | naxxan | thats what taylor and i are gonna do someday |
| 19:22.33 | Ashamed | 10 dollars a spank |
| 19:22.38 | naxxan | you know those bikers that ride down the mountain |
| 19:22.45 | Ashamed | nope |
| 19:22.47 | naxxan | we just gonna cover the plates and spank ALL of them |
| 19:22.52 | naxxan | as we pass |
| 19:22.56 | naxxan | what are they gonna do? |
| 19:23.02 | naxxan | besides possibly crash and die |
| 19:23.09 | TheLaughingMan | Scream like little girls |
| 19:24.42 | TheLaughingMan | Ok having issues with patches |
| 19:24.48 | TheLaughingMan | I downloaded Patch 1 |
| 19:24.53 | TheLaughingMan | Put the files in the Updates |
| 19:25.06 | TheLaughingMan | Ran SC2, it thinks for a little bit |
| 19:25.25 | TheLaughingMan | Then it launches, but it never applied the patches |
| 19:25.30 | TheLaughingMan | and just deletes them |
| 19:26.20 | Triceron | why'd you uninstall/reinstall SC2 anyways |
| 19:26.29 | TheLaughingMan | Had to reformat |
| 19:28.51 | naxxan | i just mixed this crystal light shit into my water bottle, and it turned my water into blood |
| 19:32.28 | nicoli_s | lol, crystal light isnt that bad |
| 19:32.38 | naxxan | my blood is tasty for sure |
| 19:32.40 | nicoli_s | i normally hate shit with fake sugar in it, but it has some good flavors |
| 19:32.42 | naxxan | but... why is it blood now |
| 19:32.47 | naxxan | "raspberry ice" |
| 19:33.00 | naxxan | i was thinking it would be like.. girly pink |
| 19:33.04 | naxxan | like the bubble gum |
| 19:33.05 | naxxan | but no |
| 19:33.06 | naxxan | its blood |
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| 19:38.28 | TheLaughingMan | Dear God! |
| 19:39.07 | TheLaughingMan | I have to do this the long way |
| 19:39.20 | Alpha_vst | what long way |
| 19:42.42 | naxxan | the long way builds character |
| 19:42.46 | naxxan | stop complaining |
| 19:42.58 | naxxan | oh he left >< |
| 19:43.00 | naxxan | dang |
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| 19:44.55 | *** join/#sc2mapster pierro (5a20a2d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.32.162.214) |
| 19:45.09 | pierro | HI |
| 19:46.51 | Demonette | HI |
| 19:49.45 | Triceron | damn, 2100 polies for the demonhunter :( |
| 19:49.49 | Triceron | I'll have to shave some off |
| 19:52.40 | Helral | third times the charm... |
| 19:52.40 | naxxan | you do that |
| 19:52.57 | naxxan | really? |
| 19:53.02 | naxxan | helral commit suicide |
| 19:53.19 | naxxan | hmm |
| 19:53.22 | naxxan | maybe less severe |
| 19:53.31 | naxxan | helral punch yourself in the face |
| 19:53.34 | naxxan | helral punch yourself in the face |
| 19:53.34 | naxxan | helral punch yourself in the face |
| 19:53.35 | casperb | Triceron: what's the average vcount for sc2 models? |
| 19:53.36 | naxxan | now you have to |
| 19:53.47 | casperb | should count verts not poly's btw :P |
| 19:53.49 | Triceron | average I'd say is 2000 |
| 19:53.55 | casperb | tri's? |
| 19:54.07 | Triceron | low stuff is 1k, high stuff can go up beyond 3k, but it's rare |
| 19:54.09 | Triceron | yes tris |
| 19:55.29 | Triceron | there's more infantry units in the game than anything else and they're pretty low poly tho, so technically the average would be more like 1500 |
| 20:01.16 | BoltHead | hello all |
| 20:01.21 | slightlyrandom | ! |
| 20:01.22 | Triceron | hey Bolthead |
| 20:01.43 | BoltHead | I have a mapping question... |
| 20:01.56 | Rommsteinz | Hey |
| 20:01.57 | slightlyrandom | The suspense is killing me |
| 20:02.26 | BoltHead | I'm working with cameras and I have a camera following a unit. How can I make it so the camera does not adjust to the height of the terrain? |
| 20:03.33 | slightlyrandom | You have asked that before, and not gotten anywhere. At this point, I think it's time to go find someone who did this, download his map and steal whatever his solution is |
| 20:04.05 | BoltHead | yeah I just gave up and decided i'd ask again later |
| 20:04.41 | BoltHead | i'd imagine alot of the first person shooters would require it |
| 20:04.59 | slightlyrandom | Then why not go find one of those and take a peek ? |
| 20:05.23 | slightlyrandom | Surely ONE of them is released with something that isnt All Rights Fucking Reserved, and Die You Noob! |
| 20:05.49 | slightlyrandom | And if not, screw them, steal their code anyway |
| 20:05.56 | slightlyrandom | Not like they'll ever know |
| 20:08.16 | BoltHead | ha ha =) |
| 20:08.34 | depthsofchaos | hehe the editor deleted one of my entire actions just randomly :o |
| 20:08.35 | BoltHead | well if there is a data editor solution It would be hard to figure out ha ha =) |
| 20:08.46 | depthsofchaos | i pressed save and it deleted it |
| 20:09.03 | BoltHead | thats a good idea, I havn't played around much with other peoples maps to even know of one |
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| 20:12.12 | Helral | random: most of us don't care that you steal stuff from it. as long as you don't host the map as your own ;p |
| 20:13.22 | Helral | I basicly selected the first license from the list ;p |
| 20:18.07 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, I basically selected the Public Domain |
| 20:18.50 | slightlyrandom | It confuses me why people would publish stuff with All Rights Reserved, since most of the Rights are written off to Blizzard anyway |
| 20:18.50 | pierro | http://tof.canardpc.com/view/f2aa45a6-503e-420d-8bb4-54b4f250129a.jpg serious business beware !! |
| 20:19.21 | slightlyrandom | That confuses me greatly. Dungeon Keeper ? |
| 20:19.38 | pierro | kinda |
| 20:19.52 | slightlyrandom | Heh, looks a bit like Evil Genius |
| 20:19.59 | pierro | kinda too |
| 20:20.13 | pierro | this game had some good mechanics |
| 20:20.20 | slightlyrandom | I hope you're gonna work on improving the, ehm |
| 20:20.26 | slightlyrandom | Identifiabilty of those rooms |
| 20:20.37 | pierro | they are empty |
| 20:20.45 | slightlyrandom | Isn't it a command center room ? |
| 20:20.48 | pierro | and more important im not making casual game |
| 20:20.52 | pierro | lol |
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| 20:20.56 | slightlyrandom | Well, as I said |
| 20:20.59 | slightlyrandom | <- confused |
| 20:21.03 | pierro | the yellow thing show a building location |
| 20:21.03 | Lazbro | ooo french |
| 20:21.08 | slightlyrandom | aha |
| 20:21.17 | slightlyrandom | Ignore my ignorance, please :) |
| 20:21.23 | pierro | when you bring the required item a building need to work |
| 20:21.30 | pierro | you can activate the building location |
| 20:21.38 | slightlyrandom | Dwarf Fortress ? |
| 20:22.40 | pierro | kiinda too |
| 20:28.46 | ekcolnovkol | anyone know that map |
| 20:28.48 | ekcolnovkol | with the marine |
| 20:28.49 | ekcolnovkol | in fps |
| 20:28.54 | ekcolnovkol | that used alot of night lighting |
| 20:34.14 | depthsofchaos | resident overmind |
| 20:34.25 | depthsofchaos | oh thats not fps |
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| 20:45.54 | Lazbro | hmm |
| 20:46.00 | Lazbro | is anyone working on a map for UMS? |
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| 20:48.41 | RoarMan | Lazbro I am. |
| 20:49.02 | RoarMan | That's a rather generic question though. |
| 20:49.12 | RoarMan | I think a lot of people are working on UMS here :D |
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| 20:49.35 | RoarMan | Hi rrowland! |
| 20:49.43 | Lazbro | as in the multiplayer mode |
| 20:49.56 | slightlyrandom | Hey what? |
| 20:49.58 | RoarMan | Oh yea I'm aiming on making mine multiplayer. |
| 20:49.59 | Lazbro | I see a lot of maps with wasd controls, maps with impossible levels of detail, single player maps... |
| 20:50.02 | RoarMan | Hi slightlyrandom |
| 20:50.09 | Lazbro | rarely a map that's entirely competitive multiplayer |
| 20:50.12 | Lazbro | which surprises me... |
| 20:50.18 | slightlyrandom | Hm, you're right |
| 20:50.27 | slightlyrandom | They exist though, battlecraft |
| 20:50.30 | RoarMan | ekcolnovokol is working on an AoS. |
| 20:50.38 | RoarMan | He's getting Husky to review it. |
| 20:50.43 | slightlyrandom | Didn't someone make a competetive TD ? |
| 20:50.50 | RoarMan | I think a lot of competitive maps are in production. |
| 20:50.54 | slightlyrandom | Send units at the other guys kinda deal |
| 20:51.00 | slightlyrandom | Whats up RoarMan ? |
| 20:51.04 | RoarMan | Not much dog. |
| 20:51.08 | slightlyrandom | Fair enough fox. |
| 20:51.12 | RoarMan | :D |
| 20:51.17 | rrowland | hi |
| 20:51.26 | RoarMan | Hihi. |
| 20:51.27 | RoarMan | :D |
| 20:51.37 | slightlyrandom | Did you have anything in mind Lazbro ? |
| 20:52.03 | Lazbro | nah, just looking around :) (And checking my map against the other projects... ;) ) |
| 20:52.08 | RoarMan | :D |
| 20:52.13 | slightlyrandom | What you got cooking? |
| 20:53.25 | Lazbro | this: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/project-workplace/4293-forlorn-hope-4v2-competitive-attack-defense/ |
| 20:53.38 | Lazbro | kinda cooking over but I have a few more weeks to sort it out |
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| 20:57.10 | slightlyrandom | I think the biggest roadblock is balance |
| 20:57.15 | slightlyrandom | At least that would be my main concern |
| 20:57.32 | Lazbro | it's hard to balance an asymmetric map 'on paper' |
| 20:57.36 | Lazbro | needs testing |
| 20:57.43 | Lazbro | HOPES the beta is going to come up again soon |
| 20:57.46 | RoarMan | AN INFESTEED TERRAN RIDING A FUCKIGN BROODLORD |
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| 20:57.47 | RoarMan | THATS BADDASS |
| 20:57.49 | RoarMan | SSSSSSSSSSSSs |
| 20:57.49 | slightlyrandom | Haha, that is likely |
| 20:57.54 | slightlyrandom | Also, indeed |
| 20:58.13 | slightlyrandom | But yeah, its just more straight forward to make a "competetive" map by having players compete to beat a computer, for instance |
| 20:58.28 | Lazbro | that's the easy way... :p |
| 20:58.39 | RoarMan | Lazbro your map looks so kewl <.< |
| 20:58.49 | Lazbro | thanks :D |
| 20:58.54 | Lazbro | because of the broodlord? :p |
| 20:59.06 | RoarMan | Lol that's like 45% of it, it's so badass O.O |
| 20:59.24 | Lazbro | thanks o_o |
| 20:59.26 | Lazbro | slightlyrandom: since popularity sort forces you to make short maps with few players, asymmetry would help a lot to keep it fresh and new |
| 21:00.26 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, I wouldnt be on that staying in the game for long |
| 21:00.28 | slightlyrandom | bet* |
| 21:00.42 | slightlyrandom | Blizzard can't be as incompetent as that |
| 21:00.56 | Lazbro | actually |
| 21:01.01 | Lazbro | they may have a real issue |
| 21:01.07 | Lazbro | what if they can't actually track who's playing? |
| 21:01.17 | Lazbro | isn't it peer to peer? |
| 21:01.26 | slightlyrandom | Naw, it's all hosted by them |
| 21:01.32 | slightlyrandom | They register it all |
| 21:01.43 | slightlyrandom | The wonders of B.net 0.2 |
| 21:01.46 | Lazbro | it's obvious that you should count minutes played in the last hour, but they chose NOT to go the obvious route |
| 21:01.51 | Lazbro | why not? |
| 21:02.03 | slightlyrandom | Brainfart |
| 21:02.04 | naxxan | I WILL DESTROY THIS WORLD |
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| 21:02.19 | Lazbro | but even if it is changed to minutes played, your map STILL needs to be short and have few players |
| 21:02.30 | Lazbro | because only the front page maps will have the luxury of lots of players |
| 21:02.34 | Lazbro | if you have a 12 player map |
| 21:02.45 | Lazbro | and you have 50 games started per hour |
| 21:02.58 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, they'll have to implement some sort of sorting algorithm if they want it be anywhere near useful |
| 21:03.29 | slightlyrandom | I'm arguing from the point that Blizzard wants this game to be popular, and they want people to play it |
| 21:03.37 | Lazbro | I meant when you go further back, maps will only be started a few times per hour - if you need too many players they may NEVER start because you need to wait so long that people quit out of the lobby |
| 21:03.56 | slightlyrandom | Thats largely because there is no real sorting option |
| 21:03.58 | Lazbro | slightlyrandom: I'm afraid it will all end with a lot of trashy defense maps + bot maps + rickrolls + Dota. |
| 21:04.10 | Lazbro | Dota is the ONE map everyone will search for |
| 21:04.13 | RoarMan | Lol |
| 21:04.18 | RoarMan | I really hope DotA never shows up on Sc2. |
| 21:04.26 | slightlyrandom | That'd be for the best |
| 21:04.28 | RoarMan | Then there's hope for map variety :D |
| 21:04.35 | Lazbro | so it's the only map that will be popular despite requiring a lot of players and taking a long time |
| 21:04.36 | slightlyrandom | Keep DotA in HoN and LoL |
| 21:04.41 | RoarMan | And Wc3 ^^ |
| 21:04.44 | Rommsteinz | I think DotA wont monopolize players if it appears on SC2 |
| 21:04.44 | Lazbro | meaning if you make an equally long and deep map, it'll fail |
| 21:04.46 | Rommsteinz | ^^ |
| 21:04.58 | Lazbro | popularity sort actually ensured that there would be no competition... |
| 21:05.05 | Lazbro | ...to Dota |
| 21:05.25 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, but the difference is that this time they have a foundation to build a proper system |
| 21:05.36 | slightlyrandom | Hell, they even showed a model of what such a thing could look like |
| 21:05.43 | Lazbro | and then threw it away |
| 21:05.45 | Lazbro | yep |
| 21:05.46 | slightlyrandom | Yes |
| 21:05.46 | Lazbro | :p |
| 21:05.49 | slightlyrandom | and they are gonna realize this |
| 21:05.58 | slightlyrandom | Or custom games in SC2 is gonna be a massive fail |
| 21:06.09 | slightlyrandom | Blizzard aren't in the habit of making massive fails |
| 21:06.12 | Lazbro | Rommsteinz: UMS must change, otherwise tiny and stupid maps will be at the top... a 4 player, 5 minute map will have 24X as much popularity as a 12 player 40 minute map |
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| 21:06.23 | Lazbro | slightlyrandom: no, their massive hit may well be called 'the ladder' |
| 21:06.30 | slightlyrandom | I agree with you Lazbro |
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| 21:06.38 | slightlyrandom | I agree that the current system is a load of arse |
| 21:06.46 | slightlyrandom | and that it has to change or it will be shit |
| 21:07.04 | Lazbro | Forlorn Hope is actually an attempt to cram as much strategy and tactics into a 6 player 10 minute map as possible :p |
| 21:07.15 | Lazbro | any more players or any longer games = automatic fail |
| 21:07.34 | Lazbro | slightlyrandom: but the real issue is popularity sort PLUS the fact that you can't see which maps are actually active |
| 21:07.40 | Lazbro | 5000 maps |
| 21:07.44 | Lazbro | yours is in there |
| 21:07.46 | slightlyrandom | YES |
| 21:07.50 | Lazbro | nobody will play it |
| 21:07.57 | slightlyrandom | Ugh |
| 21:08.02 | slightlyrandom | Listen here bubba, I agree |
| 21:08.07 | slightlyrandom | Stop preaching to the choir |
| 21:08.24 | Lazbro | and you know a lot of kiddies will talk about the 'best and most popular' maps, implying that the reason yours is all the way back is because it's BAD |
| 21:08.25 | Lazbro | :p |
| 21:08.54 | slightlyrandom | What I am saying is, Blizzard has to realize this, and they will fix it or they will not make as much money as they would like |
| 21:09.11 | slightlyrandom | And if I am convinced of anything, it is that the guys now owning Blizzard wants that cash |
| 21:09.47 | slightlyrandom | That it also happens to make sense because its a better way to do things is secondary but important for us |
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| 21:10.16 | Lazbro | two words: chat channels |
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| 21:10.35 | Lazbro | nice feedback on my forum in the meantime: 'this doesnt look like dota at all...just another custom :O' >_< |
| 21:11.29 | slightlyrandom | Again, some idiot with more business degrees than common sense took control, took a look at Nintendo and thought, "There's a nice way to do an online community jig!", and fucked it all up |
| 21:11.50 | slightlyrandom | "Yeah, no spam, no people calling each other bad cuss words, its wonderful!" |
| 21:11.56 | Lazbro | not nintendo... xbox live :p |
| 21:12.00 | slightlyrandom | Either will do |
| 21:12.09 | slightlyrandom | Nintendo doesnt have voice chat either |
| 21:12.23 | slightlyrandom | Xbox live has that added threat to the sheltering of kiddies |
| 21:12.57 | slightlyrandom | But, and this is important, they will need to wise up or lose money |
| 21:13.30 | slightlyrandom | So that's it for my hope regarding SC2 |
| 21:13.39 | Lazbro | 1 more week until beta 2 |
| 21:13.44 | Lazbro | we'll find out |
| 21:13.49 | slightlyrandom | That they greedy bastards will finally realize they will make more money by being sensible |
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| 21:15.11 | Lazbro | 'changes: Facebook button now leads to playdota.com; removed bronze and silver league, added adamantine and californium league; baneling now does 5 damage; increased menu transition animation length; reduced max map size to 5 MB +1 MB/2$ |
| 21:15.13 | Lazbro | ' |
| 21:15.21 | onetwo | haha funny forum stuff on bnet forums |
| 21:15.28 | Lazbro | link? |
| 21:15.39 | onetwo | "will my computer run ultra? i7 965 GTX 295 12 GB OCZ 16k tri channel wut do" |
| 21:15.42 | onetwo | responses: |
| 21:15.45 | Sixen | Hai2u Laz |
| 21:15.46 | onetwo | You should get a 500gb SSD and install it with OSX just to be sure. |
| 21:15.51 | onetwo | Only 1 GTX 295? What a pile of crap. |
| 21:15.53 | Lazbro | hai Sixen :D |
| 21:15.55 | Lazbro | :) |
| 21:15.55 | onetwo | Definately want to get dual cards going in SLi mode. |
| 21:15.56 | Sixen | And 12 :) |
| 21:15.57 | onetwo | hahahah |
| 21:15.58 | onetwo | hi |
| 21:16.02 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25626115173&sid=3000 |
| 21:16.05 | Lazbro | 12? |
| 21:16.07 | onetwo | i love peoples responses |
| 21:16.22 | onetwo | 500gb SSD and OSX |
| 21:16.23 | onetwo | hahahaha |
| 21:16.25 | Triceron | Woooo DH model mostly done, only need to texture now |
| 21:17.19 | onetwo | "SSD have much higher rpms. You should be fine with a 1.21 jigawatt power supply. just make sure you keep your fan speeds at or above 88mph. " |
| 21:17.24 | onetwo | hahahah nonsense mumbojumbo |
| 21:18.14 | onetwo | haha Sixen you posted on lyrliarlaira thread too |
| 21:18.21 | onetwo | did you see my post |
| 21:18.39 | Sixen | Yeah :p |
| 21:18.45 | onetwo | its pretty funny |
| 21:18.47 | onetwo | "is she hot" |
| 21:18.48 | onetwo | hah |
| 21:18.56 | onetwo | shes reconsidering |
| 21:18.57 | onetwo | her job |
| 21:18.58 | onetwo | atm |
| 21:19.51 | pierro | I aim high |
| 21:19.53 | pierro | !! |
| 21:19.59 | pierro | I started with cube |
| 21:20.01 | pierro | http://tof.canardpc.com/view/f2aa45a6-503e-420d-8bb4-54b4f250129a.jpg |
| 21:20.04 | slightlyrandom | Hey, don't mock us short people! |
| 21:20.11 | pierro | I am working on dynamic cliff |
| 21:20.14 | slightlyrandom | People of low stature have rights and feelings, you know |
| 21:20.23 | RoarMan | Can you not hold a Behavior in a variable? |
| 21:20.39 | Sixen | heh |
| 21:21.21 | depthsofchaos | has anyone figured out how to change gui theme ? in game |
| 21:21.38 | RoarMan | depthsofchaos it's not possible, there was a post about it. |
| 21:21.51 | depthsofchaos | sad:( |
| 21:22.02 | RoarMan | Yea I was sad too :( |
| 21:22.10 | slightlyrandom | You can't pick a players race for him? |
| 21:22.17 | RoarMan | You can. |
| 21:22.22 | RoarMan | But you can't change it on the fly in-game. |
| 21:22.28 | slightlyrandom | Oh |
| 21:22.28 | slightlyrandom | right |
| 21:22.29 | depthsofchaos | my races depend on the building he places |
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| 21:22.48 | slightlyrandom | You could hide the standard UI and make your own ;) |
| 21:23.02 | slightlyrandom | That'll be a fun task |
| 21:23.15 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/deserter/. Deserter. RSundeadfenix (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 21:23.20 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/final-fantasy-vii-mako-reactor/. Final Fantasy VII Mako Reactor. Darvenal (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by sixen. |
| 21:23.33 | Repo | New map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/new-spine-crawler-defense/. New Spine Crawler Defense. Demon4231 (Manager/Author). Approved by sixen. |
| 21:23.35 | depthsofchaos | dont think i could remake command cards |
| 21:23.58 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, dont think it's really viable |
| 21:24.06 | Sixen | Making a UI is definitely possible |
| 21:24.29 | depthsofchaos | but huge work and boredom |
| 21:25.26 | slightlyrandom | Beider has made some awesome stuff, should be on the front of sc2mapster.com |
| 21:25.36 | slightlyrandom | But that shit is insane and unreal |
| 21:27.01 | onetwo | sixen |
| 21:27.03 | onetwo | Sixen |
| 21:27.04 | onetwo | who did we play |
| 21:27.06 | onetwo | line tower wars with |
| 21:27.08 | onetwo | who was making it |
| 21:27.12 | onetwo | wasnt reactorex was it? |
| 21:28.22 | ekcolnovkol | sixen |
| 21:28.24 | ekcolnovkol | what's that map |
| 21:28.26 | ekcolnovkol | with the marine |
| 21:28.27 | Sixen | Uhmmmmm |
| 21:28.28 | ekcolnovkol | using a shotgun |
| 21:28.31 | ekcolnovkol | on zergligns |
| 21:28.32 | Sixen | Pretty sure it was, yeah |
| 21:28.33 | ekcolnovkol | in fps mode |
| 21:28.48 | pierro | temple |
| 21:28.51 | pierro | by mau |
| 21:28.53 | pierro | malu |
| 21:28.56 | pierro | something |
| 21:29.13 | ekcolnovkol | thank |
| 21:29.14 | ekcolnovkol | s |
| 21:29.34 | Hati | gn8 everyone, see ya soon (atleast in a half year :P ) |
| 21:29.40 | onetwo | night |
| 21:29.43 | onetwo | ah well I miss those days |
| 21:29.49 | onetwo | haha |
| 21:31.51 | onetwo | Lol Sixen damnit |
| 21:31.56 | onetwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.59 | onetwo | and then "#2 is already possible. the map maker has to use "game variants" and the game host has to pick one. " |
| 21:32.06 | onetwo | thats exactly what i said isnt good enough |
| 21:32.25 | onetwo | for my RPG example |
| 21:33.00 | ekcolnovkol | where can i download the waterworks map |
| 21:33.20 | Alpha_vst | your face |
| 21:33.29 | pierro | woaw |
| 21:33.39 | Lazbro | I dunno, just buy a commercial shooter :p |
| 21:33.43 | pierro | My dynamic cliff carving kinda works |
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| 21:34.01 | onetwo | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25626345657&sid=3000 |
| 21:34.05 | onetwo | haah the first reply |
| 21:34.10 | onetwo | "That's a lot of thought to put into something that really doesn't matter. Are you autistic? " |
| 21:34.26 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/DH_02c.jpg update! |
| 21:34.34 | Sixen | :P |
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| 21:34.50 | onetwo | are you gonna be putting a raytract reflection map on the blades Triceron? |
| 21:34.52 | onetwo | you better do it |
| 21:34.55 | onetwo | i want my game to lag insanely |
| 21:34.59 | onetwo | raytrace* |
| 21:35.15 | Lazbro | nice illidan but... didn't we already have War3? |
| 21:35.46 | onetwo | but now we can have war3 in space! |
| 21:35.51 | onetwo | i havent adapted to the new sci fi world |
| 21:35.54 | onetwo | triceron is helping me adapt |
| 21:35.56 | Krakarn | orcs in space! |
| 21:36.29 | slightlyrandom | Triceron: that stuff is pretty darned nifty |
| 21:36.38 | slightlyrandom | You can barely tell em apart! |
| 21:36.52 | Triceron | I don't know if sc2 supports reflections, does it? |
| 21:37.00 | slightlyrandom | Heh |
| 21:37.10 | Triceron | but I'm thinking of using a multimaterial for this to make the blades extra shiny |
| 21:37.17 | slightlyrandom | http://starcraftmapping.de/forum/download/file.php?id=223&mode=view |
| 21:37.30 | slightlyrandom | That's a screenshot, supposedly |
| 21:37.35 | ekcolnovkol | that |
| 21:37.35 | onetwo | figure out |
| 21:37.37 | ekcolnovkol | battlecruiser |
| 21:37.37 | onetwo | what the water uses |
| 21:37.39 | ekcolnovkol | is going to crash |
| 21:37.40 | Triceron | hmm, it does |
| 21:37.46 | Triceron | I'll have to see how that works |
| 21:37.54 | ekcolnovkol | i don't care how skilled that pilot is |
| 21:37.55 | onetwo | that battlecruiser is sixens |
| 21:37.58 | ekcolnovkol | well |
| 21:38.01 | Triceron | that'd be awesome if I can use reflections, then I don't have to slave over texturing the blades as much |
| 21:38.02 | ekcolnovkol | it's going to crash ;o |
| 21:38.03 | Alpha_vst | water supports refelections |
| 21:38.23 | ekcolnovkol | units have reflections too |
| 21:38.34 | ekcolnovkol | i mean, lighting |
| 21:38.36 | ekcolnovkol | not reflections |
| 21:38.38 | ekcolnovkol | :/ |
| 21:38.44 | onetwo | make them glowing/searing blades |
| 21:38.45 | onetwo | lol |
| 21:38.48 | onetwo | plant some lights |
| 21:38.57 | ekcolnovkol | or just use HDR |
| 21:39.07 | onetwo | watch out for people who play on Low mode though |
| 21:39.12 | onetwo | they dont get a lot of things |
| 21:39.15 | onetwo | like omni lights |
| 21:39.18 | onetwo | etc |
| 21:39.21 | Alpha_vst | Ive took my map down to 8 triggers weee |
| 21:39.21 | onetwo | visible in game |
| 21:39.38 | slightlyrandom | Don't stop till you hit 0, Alpha_vst! |
| 21:39.45 | Alpha_vst | not possible |
| 21:39.50 | slightlyrandom | Pfft |
| 21:39.55 | slightlyrandom | Of course it's possible |
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| 21:40.06 | Alpha_vst | actually not really |
| 21:40.13 | slightlyrandom | You just have to want it bad enough |
| 21:40.49 | Lazbro | spends half of his time planning out his RPG and then realised it's all about the GRAPHICS ;) |
| 21:40.55 | `MindWorX | Ohhohoho "ultras dont run, they're stuck behind zerglings. " |
| 21:40.58 | `MindWorX | Funny |
| 21:40.58 | onetwo | it is |
| 21:41.00 | depthsofchaos | is it possible to unload a unit from a transport to another??? |
| 21:41.01 | onetwo | completely about graphics |
| 21:41.05 | onetwo | i mean look at crysis |
| 21:41.12 | onetwo | and the 10 mill subscribers it has |
| 21:41.13 | onetwo | oh wait |
| 21:41.14 | onetwo | oops |
| 21:41.16 | slightlyrandom | What with depthsofchaos ? |
| 21:41.22 | onetwo | its not like the Wii or WoW is popular |
| 21:41.25 | onetwo | with their non-super graphics |
| 21:41.31 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 21:41.35 | depthsofchaos | for example i wanted to swap cargo in the air |
| 21:41.54 | slightlyrandom | Graphics are fine for approximately 5 minutes, unless they are SERIOUSLY stunning |
| 21:42.02 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, Data or Trigger ? |
| 21:42.26 | depthsofchaos | data preferably |
| 21:42.31 | slightlyrandom | The stupid way is to destroy the cargo on one, create it on another, with a trigger |
| 21:42.52 | Alpha_vst | thats the easy way :P |
| 21:42.54 | ekcolnovkol | it don't think it's graphics that makes the impact, it's consistency in layout |
| 21:43.00 | slightlyrandom | Same thing Alpha_vst :) |
| 21:43.06 | ekcolnovkol | if your unit looks relatable, then it will have a longer lasting appeal |
| 21:43.28 | ekcolnovkol | it's more of the "ooh that's cool" and less of an "ooh that looks amazing" |
| 21:43.35 | slightlyrandom | What I really want in a game is responsiveness and fluidity |
| 21:44.46 | Lazbro | [23:40]<onetwo>completely about graphics --- I mean in SC2 :p |
| 21:44.57 | Lazbro | bling in an RPG draws attention :) |
| 21:45.06 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, and he mentioned two hugely popular systems that arent about graphics |
| 21:45.10 | slightlyrandom | WoW is an RPG |
| 21:45.32 | slightlyrandom | Well, you could argue WoW has style |
| 21:45.40 | slightlyrandom | But it certainly doesn't have a huge polygoncount |
| 21:46.00 | Lazbro | SC2!! |
| 21:46.12 | Lazbro | those screenshots from some of the recent maps o_o |
| 21:46.15 | slightlyrandom | And in any event, an Infested Terran on a Broodlord draws attention, big way |
| 21:46.27 | RoarMan | ITS FUCKING BADASS THAS WHAT. |
| 21:46.37 | slightlyrandom | Especially if its on fire |
| 21:46.42 | slightlyrandom | Everything is better with fire |
| 21:46.44 | RoarMan | MEHHA ESPECIALLY |
| 21:46.50 | Lazbro | that's my competitive map, I'm also working on an RPG |
| 21:47.06 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, needs more stuff riding Broodlords if you ask me |
| 21:47.07 | Lazbro | which currently looks like ugly crap :( http://modsbylaz.hugelaser.com/Old%20Ways%20-%20convo.png |
| 21:47.17 | Lazbro | slightlyrandom: shhh, that was my creature contest submission |
| 21:47.44 | Lazbro | which reminds me, vjeux: you didn't really answer my question as to whether the creature must be biological or if it can be a unit or robot |
| 21:47.46 | Lazbro | :) |
| 21:48.01 | slightlyrandom | Well, sadly SC2 is optimized for large battles, so if you want good graphics close up, you'll have to make a mod in a different game |
| 21:48.06 | vjeux | it can be a robot |
| 21:48.15 | slightlyrandom | "Sadly" |
| 21:48.24 | slightlyrandom | I dont mind, my computer is shit, can barely run it as it is |
| 21:48.27 | depthsofchaos | terratron ! |
| 21:48.41 | depthsofchaos | if someone makes it i bow :o |
| 21:48.53 | Lazbro | vjeux: thanks :) |
| 21:49.02 | slightlyrandom | That'd be multiple terran mech units combining? |
| 21:49.08 | Lazbro | depthsofchaos: that was my second plan: Protosstron :p |
| 21:49.26 | depthsofchaos | not mech+ buildings |
| 21:49.30 | RoarMan | Guys what's the correct way to use Set Tint Color for an Actor? |
| 21:49.33 | depthsofchaos | and walk like a transformer :o |
| 21:49.34 | slightlyrandom | Siegetanks for feet, Thor for body, Viking for head, Hellion for arms |
| 21:49.41 | Lazbro | RoarMan: copy the Phase Shift actor |
| 21:49.47 | Lazbro | edit its events |
| 21:49.49 | Lazbro | :) |
| 21:49.52 | RoarMan | Kk I'll take a look at it. |
| 21:50.02 | depthsofchaos | but duno how you could make the movement |
| 21:50.07 | slightlyrandom | Heh, what did you try and what do you mean by correct? |
| 21:50.10 | depthsofchaos | without triggers or own animation |
| 21:50.29 | Lazbro | do you need to? It has tank feet. |
| 21:50.31 | Lazbro | :) |
| 21:50.35 | slightlyrandom | ;) |
| 21:50.41 | slightlyrandom | Thats what I was thinking |
| 21:50.43 | depthsofchaos | well it has to move like a human :P |
| 21:50.47 | slightlyrandom | <-- always looks for the easy way out |
| 21:51.27 | depthsofchaos | well with some sick site operations maybe |
| 21:51.50 | slightlyrandom | Mounting a Thor on two Siegetanks is surely doable |
| 21:52.08 | depthsofchaos | would look like rollerskates :p |
| 21:52.13 | Lazbro | great looking tank mod: remove turret, add missile tower |
| 21:52.14 | slightlyrandom | Yeah :D |
| 21:52.19 | slightlyrandom | Rollerskates of DEATH! |
| 21:52.21 | Lazbro | lock its turret and give it a 20 missile barrage |
| 21:52.28 | Lazbro | 'Stukov Organ' |
| 21:52.29 | slightlyrandom | Heh, nice |
| 21:52.34 | slightlyrandom | Basis for a game there |
| 21:52.40 | Lazbro | :) |
| 21:52.41 | slightlyrandom | Siege Tank game where you mod your tank |
| 21:52.53 | slightlyrandom | Normal gun, missiles, machinegun turret |
| 21:52.54 | Triceron | Ha, Crysis |
| 21:52.56 | slightlyrandom | flamer |
| 21:53.02 | Lazbro | and thanks to the new omni light actors, you can have the all important neons. |
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| 21:55.15 | heysparky | howdy folks |
| 21:55.28 | heysparky | hmm.... chat client updating... |
| 21:55.30 | slightlyrandom | Hi Norm! |
| 21:55.33 | heysparky | :) |
| 21:55.43 | Triceron | <slightlyrandom> Well, sadly SC2 is optimized for large battles, so if you want good graphics close up, you'll have to make a mod in a different game - I wish most of the modellers I talk with understood that. |
| 21:56.06 | slightlyrandom | Gotta pick the right tool for the job |
| 21:56.27 | Triceron | but everyone I've talked to wants to do super high res detailed 'better than shitty SC2 models' graphics |
| 21:56.32 | Triceron | and I'm just like... what's the point? |
| 21:56.41 | Triceron | this isn't UE3 |
| 21:56.59 | slightlyrandom | In much the same way, I see all the FPS games as curiosities more than actual usable projects |
| 21:57.00 | casperb | If you're doing a FPS thingy, use udk |
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| 21:57.26 | Triceron | even getting camera closeups and 3rd person view in SC2, you're not gonna need crazy high polycounts |
| 21:57.29 | heysparky | howdy again |
| 21:57.32 | slightlyrandom | Sure, it'll do for a minigame in a uthers party style game, but dont make a multiplayer fps in SC" |
| 21:58.19 | heysparky | oh, Triceron, are you getting folks making gazillion poly models? |
| 21:58.21 | Triceron | it just doesn't make sense to me. Plus it just breaks the illusion when you have something super high res in a 'low poly' world. Sticks out like a sore thumb. |
| 21:58.22 | heysparky | or seeing, rather |
| 21:58.38 | Triceron | no, I'm just talking to noob modellers who want to |
| 21:58.42 | heysparky | well, it's more fun (and easier in many ways) to make high poly models |
| 21:59.07 | Triceron | or think super detail like individual fingers are necessary for a human model in SC2 |
| 21:59.10 | slightlyrandom | Low resolution designing is HARD |
| 21:59.17 | heysparky | lol |
| 21:59.26 | heysparky | mittens with a forefinger at most are all you need |
| 21:59.29 | Triceron | you won't even SEE hands on a unit 80% of the time |
| 21:59.39 | Lazbro | [23:55]<Triceron>and I'm just like... what's the point? --- you've seen my screenshot, nobody will play that RPG based on that screenshot, but the battlecruiser pic is o_O WOW |
| 21:59.43 | Triceron | there's gonna be a GIANT GUN in em. |
| 21:59.46 | Alpha_vst | so "The Last Airbender" is probably one of the worst movies ever :P |
| 21:59.54 | Triceron | i'm watching that tomorrow |
| 21:59.59 | Alpha_vst | dont |
| 22:00.01 | Triceron | I'm hoping its not |
| 22:00.02 | heysparky | Ebert hated it |
| 22:00.05 | slightlyrandom | The series was kinda dross too |
| 22:00.05 | Alpha_vst | save your self moeny |
| 22:00.06 | heysparky | but he's cranky |
| 22:00.08 | Triceron | ebert hates a lot of things |
| 22:00.11 | Alpha_vst | ""The Last Airbender" is an agonizing experience in every category I can think of and others still waiting to be invented." - Ebert |
| 22:00.16 | heysparky | yup |
| 22:00.17 | Alpha_vst | http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-last-airbender,42682/ |
| 22:00.28 | Triceron | too late, got tickets |
| 22:00.30 | Alpha_vst | NOTHING BUT BAD REVIVEWS |
| 22:00.33 | Triceron | will prolly hope for a refund |
| 22:00.38 | slightlyrandom | Change em for something else |
| 22:00.43 | heysparky | I think it'd be worth it for effects... what do the reviews say about effects? |
| 22:00.55 | Triceron | yeah, at this point I'm jus going in for effects |
| 22:01.02 | Triceron | it CAN'T be better than the animated series. |
| 22:01.10 | Triceron | the series was too awesome |
| 22:01.14 | slightlyrandom | What? |
| 22:01.15 | slightlyrandom | heh |
| 22:01.15 | Alpha_vst | dont see it in 3d :P |
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| 22:01.32 | Alpha_vst | A lot of headache-inducing CGI-effects sequences, |
| 22:01.33 | Alpha_vst | WOOT |
| 22:01.35 | slightlyrandom | The series wasn't awful, but it certainly wasnt outstanding in any way, shape or form |
| 22:01.39 | Triceron | friends want to go, not really my choice |
| 22:01.43 | Triceron | I'm only curious |
| 22:01.51 | Triceron | I forgot Toy Story 3 was playing too |
| 22:01.57 | Triceron | which I hear is prolly better |
| 22:02.02 | Triceron | actually |
| 22:02.02 | heysparky | peer pressure, Triceron? are you in junior high? :D |
| 22:02.02 | Triceron | I know |
| 22:02.08 | heysparky | TS3 was good |
| 22:02.22 | onetwo | Lazbro you bring up agood point |
| 22:02.24 | onetwo | a good* |
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| 22:02.31 | onetwo | there's a lot of demos and screenshots thatll remain that |
| 22:02.34 | Triceron | well I don't mind bad movies |
| 22:02.39 | onetwo | meanwhile line tower wars and battlecraft are the popular maps |
| 22:02.40 | onetwo | etc |
| 22:02.57 | Triceron | it makes you appreciate the good ones more :) |
| 22:03.36 | onetwo | damn from that airbender review |
| 22:03.42 | onetwo | it looks like another bad movie |
| 22:03.51 | casperb | avatar? |
| 22:03.55 | onetwo | well, it already bugs me when movies say "in 3d" |
| 22:04.01 | onetwo | i specifically dont go to 3d movies |
| 22:04.04 | onetwo | i go to 2d version |
| 22:04.11 | slightlyrandom | "3d" |
| 22:04.13 | slightlyrandom | 2.2d |
| 22:04.16 | onetwo | id rather have 4000000 pixels than crappy glasses and a bit of depth |
| 22:04.28 | casperb | stereoscopic glasses still make you queesy so |
| 22:04.28 | onetwo | 4000000x400000 |
| 22:04.31 | onetwo | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0938283/usercomments |
| 22:04.35 | onetwo | seems half love it |
| 22:04.35 | Bifuu | i feel like i have been abandoning you guys =( |
| 22:04.37 | onetwo | half hate it |
| 22:04.43 | onetwo | Bifuu you suck! |
| 22:05.03 | Bifuu | hey its not my fault that my bosses decided to promote me O.o |
| 22:05.12 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, but it is your fault you accepted! |
| 22:05.15 | onetwo | the trailers for the last airbender looked really cool |
| 22:05.16 | onetwo | i like effects |
| 22:05.24 | onetwo | but m night shyamalan is having issues |
| 22:05.26 | onetwo | it would appear |
| 22:05.35 | onetwo | just make realistic characters with a good story |
| 22:05.37 | onetwo | based on w/e |
| 22:05.39 | onetwo | and youre set |
| 22:05.47 | onetwo | too many producers meddling about is my guess |
| 22:05.51 | Bifuu | hey if you were offered to go from scraping dough off the floor to being a manager with a 1.50 pay raise you would accept too |
| 22:05.53 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, its so easy to make a good movie! |
| 22:06.06 | slightlyrandom | Why more movies arent just good, I'll never understand |
| 22:06.33 | slightlyrandom | Bifuu: I dont even HAVE a job, so there! |
| 22:06.41 | Bifuu | well |
| 22:06.46 | Alpha_vst | same |
| 22:07.18 | slightlyrandom | Jobs are for fools and people who want to eat |
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| 22:07.19 | slightlyrandom | Pffft |
| 22:07.19 | onetwo | and the CG artists who basically MAKE the movie sell... go largely unnoticed |
| 22:07.19 | onetwo | while an actor talks about having fun on set in italy |
| 22:07.19 | Bifuu | you are either lazy, lucky, or a bank robber |
| 22:07.19 | onetwo | 300 people made insane realistic effects |
| 22:07.19 | Alpha_vst | yeah |
| 22:07.19 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, bit of each |
| 22:07.42 | slightlyrandom | You'd be amazed how hard work it is to actually knock over a bank, though |
| 22:07.47 | onetwo | slightlyrandom |
| 22:07.50 | onetwo | it isnt hard to write a good movie |
| 22:07.52 | onetwo | unfortunately |
| 22:07.55 | onetwo | they get tampered with |
| 22:07.58 | onetwo | "we need a love interest" |
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| 22:08.02 | onetwo | "we need it to appeal to kids" |
| 22:08.08 | onetwo | or youre just insane and put jar jar binks in |
| 22:08.17 | Triceron | good movies don't always sell tickets |
| 22:08.19 | Bifuu | First person to find the map on this page in a big enough format i can see it wins a cookie |
| 22:08.19 | Bifuu | http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/30/dave-perry-on-the-innovation-of-gaikai/ |
| 22:08.19 | Triceron | it's so sad |
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| 22:08.46 | onetwo | but its because a lot of "good" movie makers dont understand market |
| 22:08.47 | onetwo | james cameron is good at both |
| 22:08.47 | onetwo | chris nolan is good |
| 22:08.47 | onetwo | but its rare |
| 22:08.47 | onetwo | and you need pull |
| 22:08.52 | onetwo | to prevent producer tampering |
| 22:08.52 | Triceron | Cameron is pplaying it safe nowadays |
| 22:08.57 | Triceron | but he sorta had to |
| 22:09.00 | slightlyrandom | Bifuu: Get a proper operating system, hold down a the right button and click-drag |
| 22:09.07 | slightlyrandom | Or, hold down Ctrl and scroll up |
| 22:09.08 | Triceron | 10 yrs is a long time for a movie with a 'risky' plotline |
| 22:09.15 | Triceron | better to play it safe |
| 22:09.20 | onetwo | also, anyone else agree that clearly some CGI artists for Avatar played WoW.... i was definitely reminded of some wow environments |
| 22:09.23 | Bifuu | slightlyrandom: that pixilates it |
| 22:09.56 | Bifuu | it looks like a google map, so i want to be able to see the roof of my house |
| 22:09.56 | Triceron | don't even have to play WoW |
| 22:09.59 | Triceron | the annimated series looked like it |
| 22:10.08 | onetwo | lol |
| 22:10.24 | Helral | meows |
| 22:11.32 | Triceron | punts Helral |
| 22:11.37 | Triceron | stop that |
| 22:12.28 | Bifuu | best part about my promotion: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220695 i can taste it |
| 22:12.49 | Triceron | what do you do Bifuu |
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| 22:13.13 | Bifuu | a manager at a little caesars |
| 22:13.15 | Bifuu | lol |
| 22:13.19 | Bifuu | nothing special |
| 22:13.34 | slightlyrandom | I dont get those huge Laptops |
| 22:13.42 | Triceron | oh wow |
| 22:13.42 | slightlyrandom | Worst of both worlds |
| 22:13.56 | onetwo | haha asus and acer: sound similar and both suck at design... but manage to make good stuff under the hood |
| 22:13.59 | Triceron | I thought you were like a programmer or a systems analyst or something |
| 22:14.07 | Lazbro | is there any way to detect when a unit researches an upgrade? |
| 22:14.15 | Bifuu | lol no |
| 22:14.20 | slightlyrandom | Data or Trigger ? |
| 22:14.21 | Bifuu | maybe in the future |
| 22:14.26 | slightlyrandom | Trigger, Unit Uses Ability |
| 22:14.34 | slightlyrandom | Data, just chain it together |
| 22:14.37 | onetwo | Bifuu: senior analyst and systems technician for IBM |
| 22:14.37 | onetwo | hhaha |
| 22:14.40 | Bifuu | i do that shit on my spare time |
| 22:14.51 | Bifuu | onetwo: you are? |
| 22:14.58 | onetwo | yeah i know everything |
| 22:15.02 | Bifuu | buy me a laptop |
| 22:15.12 | onetwo | you can trust me |
| 22:15.16 | Bifuu | ill take the one i linked |
| 22:15.16 | onetwo | *rolls eyes* |
| 22:15.29 | onetwo | hey... you buy it when you become "senior analyst and systems technician for IBM" |
| 22:15.34 | Bifuu | or give me the best lenovo you got |
| 22:15.40 | onetwo | i dont even have anything |
| 22:15.44 | onetwo | what lenovo! |
| 22:15.50 | Lazbro | slightlyrandom: ok... :( |
| 22:15.51 | onetwo | oh |
| 22:15.53 | onetwo | no i meant to say |
| 22:15.56 | onetwo | im not |
| 22:16.00 | slightlyrandom | :( ? |
| 22:16.01 | onetwo | but i was implying you would be |
| 22:16.02 | Triceron | love having a 12" cintiq. I can just tilt the screen when I need to paint something on a difficult angle |
| 22:16.06 | Bifuu | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 22:16.08 | Bifuu | i get it |
| 22:16.09 | onetwo | hahahaha |
| 22:16.16 | onetwo | anyone with a real career wouldnt be here |
| 22:16.18 | Bifuu | yeaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 22:16.23 | Bifuu | pfft |
| 22:16.25 | Bifuu | i would be |
| 22:16.32 | onetwo | theyd be busy with kids and a wife and a middle-income suburban home and working on the "big project" |
| 22:16.39 | slightlyrandom | People with jobs and money would be off in their speedboats and kissing ladies on the mouth, or whatever it is rich people do |
| 22:17.13 | onetwo | talking about their kids on the yacht |
| 22:17.22 | Bifuu | i wouldnt be on a yacht |
| 22:17.28 | onetwo | if i was, id be hacking it up |
| 22:17.29 | Bifuu | i cant swim so idbe fucked if i fell off |
| 22:17.34 | onetwo | columbian druglord style |
| 22:17.35 | Bifuu | and im not wearing those damn vests |
| 22:17.40 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, fuck the yacht, thats so last century. Rocketship to the moon |
| 22:18.00 | Bifuu | id buy a helicopter |
| 22:18.04 | Bifuu | and learn to fly it myself |
| 22:18.18 | slightlyrandom | Hehe |
| 22:18.24 | Bifuu | and equipt it with some airsoft gattling guns so i can shoot my friends houses |
| 22:18.27 | slightlyrandom | I'd be off in a bunker somewhere, scared of you |
| 22:18.58 | Bifuu | *dink dink dink dink dink* "Wtf is that?" "Oh Dustin has declared'war' on us again" |
| 22:19.06 | onetwo | lol |
| 22:19.20 | Dustin | I did? |
| 22:19.22 | slightlyrandom | Then they bring out the spud cannon and you're in trouble |
| 22:19.23 | Bifuu | would be epic |
| 22:19.29 | Bifuu | Not you Dustin |
| 22:19.31 | Bifuu | Me dustin |
| 22:19.36 | Bifuu | Damn people stealing my name |
| 22:19.58 | Dustin | :O |
| 22:20.00 | Dustin | Ahem |
| 22:20.05 | Dustin | Your name is Bifuu |
| 22:20.12 | onetwo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u8vZwvP57Y |
| 22:20.15 | onetwo | this movie looks decent |
| 22:20.20 | onetwo | top actors and director |
| 22:20.23 | onetwo | might be a silent hit |
| 22:20.28 | onetwo | hasnt been much talk about it |
| 22:21.27 | slightlyrandom | Ugh, another one of those |
| 22:21.38 | onetwo | meh we havent had a good one in a while |
| 22:21.40 | onetwo | long while |
| 22:21.42 | onetwo | so might be nice |
| 22:21.53 | onetwo | and its better than "an army of vampires" |
| 22:21.54 | Bifuu | damn i cant make my nick Düstin, because i am uberer than Dustin |
| 22:21.59 | onetwo | i dont like 2009/2010 |
| 22:22.01 | onetwo | vampires+ 3d |
| 22:22.02 | Triceron | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDvgL58h_Y |
| 22:22.04 | onetwo | 2 things that are gonna die so fast |
| 22:22.08 | Dustin | ;p; |
| 22:22.08 | onetwo | in their currrent state that is |
| 22:22.12 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 22:22.12 | Dustin | lol |
| 22:22.32 | Bifuu | onetwo: wanna see the next best thing? |
| 22:22.39 | Bifuu | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1193631/ BAM |
| 22:23.08 | Alpha_vst | FUCK YEAH |
| 22:24.21 | onetwo | ...................................................................... |
| 22:24.24 | onetwo | 7.2/10? |
| 22:24.26 | onetwo | wtf |
| 22:24.27 | Alpha_vst | actually this movie seems fucking crazy.... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1483010/ in a fucked up way |
| 22:24.31 | onetwo | *calms down* |
| 22:24.39 | onetwo | im becoming too cynical |
| 22:24.42 | onetwo | but its too hard not to be |
| 22:24.53 | RoarMan | Ladies love a cynic. |
| 22:25.00 | onetwo | ""Logan" is a story about two teenage brothers, Tyler and Logan. Logan, the younger of the two, has got..." |
| 22:25.03 | onetwo | thats such a generic |
| 22:25.07 | onetwo | movie |
| 22:25.07 | onetwo | hahah |
| 22:25.08 | Triceron | shit, forgot today's the last day before HST kicks in |
| 22:25.14 | Alpha_vst | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3GvTF0D6Fc |
| 22:25.15 | onetwo | haha HST |
| 22:25.18 | RoarMan | HARMONIZED SALES TAX!?!? |
| 22:25.18 | onetwo | how did we agree to that crap |
| 22:25.19 | RoarMan | Waaht. |
| 22:25.23 | Alpha_vst | watch the preview |
| 22:25.30 | Triceron | we didn't |
| 22:25.39 | Triceron | libs have majority gov't |
| 22:25.39 | Krakarn | Alyson Stoner nice name |
| 22:25.46 | Triceron | they just passed it |
| 22:26.35 | onetwo | haha wtf |
| 22:26.46 | onetwo | this movie is too sadly heartwarming |
| 22:26.53 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 22:27.01 | Alpha_vst | i knew right |
| 22:27.10 | Alpha_vst | the end of teh trailer gets all fucked up |
| 22:27.25 | onetwo | hahaha |
| 22:27.40 | Alpha_vst | i want to see that movie 0.o |
| 22:27.41 | Triceron | his name is Booboo? |
| 22:27.46 | Triceron | his real name? |
| 22:27.46 | nicoli_s | that is such a vague plot description |
| 22:28.03 | onetwo | lol |
| 22:28.11 | onetwo | AFK |
| 22:28.16 | onetwo | AFAIK AFK afk |
| 22:28.45 | depthsofchaos | his name is beardulon |
| 22:28.46 | Alpha_vst | Nils 'Boo Boo' Stewart Jr |
| 22:29.24 | Triceron | his name is NILS? |
| 22:29.58 | depthsofchaos | best movie btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0piFZXT8Zxo |
| 22:30.05 | depthsofchaos | inspring |
| 22:30.14 | Triceron | no |
| 22:30.18 | Triceron | abomination |
| 22:30.40 | depthsofchaos | how dare you :( |
| 22:30.49 | Triceron | oh I dare |
| 22:30.53 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 22:30.55 | Alpha_vst | wtf |
| 22:31.08 | Alpha_vst | thats a joke right? thats so cliche |
| 22:31.42 | depthsofchaos | ofc :p |
| 22:32.05 | Alpha_vst | i mean the movie... |
| 22:32.40 | depthsofchaos | thats thing is real |
| 22:32.54 | depthsofchaos | that* |
| 22:33.09 | Alpha_vst | bull shit |
| 22:33.20 | Alpha_vst | LIES |
| 22:33.36 | slightlyrandom | onetwo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDvgL58h_Y <-- Best movie I've seen all year |
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| 22:34.24 | Alpha_vst | lol that was funny when i saw it |
| 22:34.28 | ekcolnovkol | hey alpha |
| 22:34.33 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 22:34.33 | ekcolnovkol | what the heck is a leaderboard item icon |
| 22:34.34 | Alpha_vst | what |
| 22:34.37 | ekcolnovkol | it lies to me :U |
| 22:34.43 | Alpha_vst | idono |
| 22:34.49 | ekcolnovkol | weeps |
| 22:34.52 | Lazbro | night - thanks for the feedback, all :) |
| 22:35.48 | Alpha_vst | Fuck i need to stop working on textures |
| 22:35.50 | Alpha_vst | :( |
| 22:36.01 | ekcolnovkol | lmao what the fuck |
| 22:36.13 | Alpha_vst | even at 256x256 these things take up a lot of space :( |
| 22:36.50 | ekcolnovkol | he's got a spoon and it hurts like hell |
| 22:36.52 | heysparky | haha... I love Woot.com http://www.woot.com/Blog/ViewEntry.aspx?Id=13390 |
| 22:36.57 | heysparky | those guys just made a mint |
| 22:39.11 | ekcolnovkol | lmao |
| 22:39.16 | ekcolnovkol | he will follow you until the ends of the earth |
| 22:42.07 | ekcolnovkol | rofl he tries to kill himself |
| 22:44.44 | Triceron | you should watch the sequel too |
| 22:44.47 | Triceron | Spoon vs Spoon |
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| 22:45.20 | ekcolnovkol | ahahahaha |
| 22:45.23 | Triceron | greatest plot twist ever |
| 22:45.25 | ekcolnovkol | chaotic rampage amaerican pictures |
| 22:46.06 | ekcolnovkol | ROFL |
| 22:46.09 | ekcolnovkol | he's got more spoons |
| 22:46.36 | Triceron | ohhh |
| 22:46.42 | Triceron | cataclysm beta |
| 22:47.17 | casperb | phising mail? |
| 22:47.27 | Triceron | no, I mean it's a go |
| 22:47.30 | casperb | my brother got one, almost fell for it :p |
| 22:47.32 | Triceron | I didn't get any emails |
| 22:47.42 | Triceron | but it's started |
| 22:47.49 | casperb | ah kk |
| 22:48.05 | Triceron | makes me wonder tho |
| 22:48.13 | Triceron | doesn't cataclysm kill some of SC2's thunder |
| 22:48.22 | Alpha_vst | no |
| 22:48.56 | Triceron | I have quite a few friends who are sc2 fans, but are bigger WoW fans (when there's content to play) |
| 22:49.50 | nicoli_s | im so damn tired of wow |
| 22:50.09 | nicoli_s | i made a career out of doing wow stuff and i still havent even gotten a char past level 50 :P |
| 22:50.52 | Triceron | ? |
| 22:51.02 | Triceron | making mods? |
| 22:51.29 | ekcolnovkol | lmao |
| 22:51.32 | ekcolnovkol | dual spoons |
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| 22:53.05 | RedWraith | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 22:53.06 | purl | tehwildcard <~Jer@pool-71-122-122-129.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 11d 3h 35m 41s ago, saying: 'You cant place it'. |
| 22:54.01 | Triceron | 11 days lol |
| 22:54.10 | Triceron | I rarely even see this tehwildcard person |
| 22:56.48 | Alpha_vst | same |
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| 22:59.13 | Triceron | I don't believe he really exists |
| 23:00.03 | RedWraith | He's only been on like |
| 23:00.04 | RedWraith | one day |
| 23:00.08 | RedWraith | is the past three weeks |
| 23:00.10 | RedWraith | :( |
| 23:01.39 | Tolkfan | cataclysm beta today, sc2 beta phase 2 tomorrow? pretty please? :< |
| 23:01.53 | RedWraith | so, I've decided that when players are dead, they'll be able to spawn fires that are owned by them, but uncontrollable, and they can 'herd' those fires since they'll attempt to attack them as well, as well as spawn them on a timer. In beacon respawn mode, all of them will be killed upon respawn. |
| 23:02.04 | RedWraith | Though, the ownership depends on whether or not I can create colored fires |
| 23:02.06 | nicoli_s | Tolkfan:ive heard it comes back tom |
| 23:02.07 | RedWraith | which I don't believe I can. |
| 23:02.08 | RedWraith | :( |
| 23:02.15 | RedWraith | I hope not. |
| 23:02.20 | RedWraith | I hope it comes back next Monday. |
| 23:02.25 | Triceron | let dead players spawn barriers |
| 23:02.27 | Triceron | uwahaha |
| 23:02.33 | RedWraith | screw that |
| 23:02.36 | RedWraith | spawn fiiiiiires |
| 23:02.46 | RedWraith | also adding a timer to fire spawn |
| 23:02.59 | RedWraith | so it spawns after a certain number of seconds with a visual warning |
| 23:03.05 | RedWraith | so players don't go OMG I'M GONNA DIE! |
| 23:03.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tehwildcard (~Jer@pool-96-252-135-143.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:03.15 | RedWraith | when a fire spawns in their face |
| 23:03.17 | RedWraith | HOLY SHIT |
| 23:03.20 | RedWraith | SPEAK OF THE DEVIL |
| 23:03.20 | Tehwildcard | Cataclysm beta is out if you guys haven't heard |
| 23:03.27 | Tehwildcard | and sixen, get me an invite asap |
| 23:03.29 | RedWraith | rofl WoW sucks ;P |
| 23:03.43 | Triceron | wait |
| 23:03.47 | Triceron | if cataclysm is beta |
| 23:03.50 | Triceron | all the NDA is lifted |
| 23:04.12 | Triceron | *scours the net to find an install to check their MPQ* |
| 23:04.13 | RedWraith | I stand firm in my belief that WoW should not be played by people with less than 5 hours a day to devote to it. |
| 23:04.23 | RedWraith | And that people who can play WoW shouldn't. |
| 23:04.29 | Tehwildcard | Either way |
| 23:04.29 | RedWraith | Well, after the first thousand hours anyway. |
| 23:04.32 | RedWraith | Before then is cool. |
| 23:04.34 | Hjalte | "Zarhym: The NDA is lifted." |
| 23:04.34 | Tehwildcard | Ignorance, check your bnet account |
| 23:04.36 | Triceron | that's why I'm not playing WoW |
| 23:04.40 | RedWraith | why? |
| 23:04.42 | Triceron | omg that wildcard dude is alive |
| 23:04.43 | Tehwildcard | and give me your invite |
| 23:04.45 | Tehwildcard | if you have |
| 23:05.00 | Tehwildcard | I was busy with stuff >.> |
| 23:05.11 | Tehwildcard | aka too poor to pay for fios for a month |
| 23:05.24 | RedWraith | I don't have it. |
| 23:05.29 | RedWraith | oh lol |
| 23:05.29 | Tehwildcard | fuck |
| 23:05.44 | RedWraith | oh, check out |
| 23:05.50 | RedWraith | the latest version of the map |
| 23:05.50 | Tehwildcard | Now I'll have to beg sixen some more |
| 23:05.55 | RedWraith | it's not bug-free yet |
| 23:05.56 | Tehwildcard | does it rape? |
| 23:05.58 | RedWraith | but it's sick as fuck |
| 23:06.06 | RedWraith | I need a way to color fires |
| 23:06.09 | RedWraith | if you can find one |
| 23:06.13 | Tehwildcard | tint? |
| 23:06.14 | ekcolnovkol | timt |
| 23:06.15 | ekcolnovkol | int |
| 23:06.17 | ekcolnovkol | tsdfasdkfj |
| 23:06.17 | ekcolnovkol | tint |
| 23:06.20 | Tehwildcard | I won |
| 23:06.23 | RedWraith | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5848688/Sentry%20Scramble%20v2.3.SC2Map |
| 23:06.24 | ekcolnovkol | :( |
| 23:06.31 | RedWraith | check out |
| 23:06.33 | RedWraith | the sentries |
| 23:06.33 | RedWraith | :FD |
| 23:06.35 | RedWraith | :D* |
| 23:06.51 | ekcolnovkol | what about them |
| 23:07.16 | ekcolnovkol | 3 freaking megabytes? |
| 23:07.22 | ekcolnovkol | wtf did you import? |
| 23:07.23 | RedWraith | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5848688/Screenshot006.Jpg |
| 23:07.41 | Tehwildcard | lots of cubes! |
| 23:07.44 | RedWraith | textures too |
| 23:07.58 | Tehwildcard | its going to be even larger with my unicorns btw ignorance |
| 23:08.00 | Tehwildcard | like much larger |
| 23:08.19 | rrowland | man what an ugly leaderboard |
| 23:09.14 | ekcolnovkol | brb ramen |
| 23:09.15 | ekcolnovkol | :( |
| 23:10.45 | Tehwildcard | yeah the orbs are sick looking, does it change for teams? |
| 23:10.55 | RedWraith | yes |
| 23:10.56 | Tehwildcard | ie red team vs blue team |
| 23:10.59 | Tehwildcard | sweet |
| 23:10.59 | RedWraith | yeeeesss |
| 23:11.07 | RedWraith | but I don't really like the red orb very muchj |
| 23:11.20 | RedWraith | and I haven't bothered attaching it to hallucinations and I'm not entirely sure that I should |
| 23:11.23 | Tehwildcard | How do you do that last seen crap? |
| 23:11.29 | RedWraith | ? |
| 23:11.32 | RedWraith | what? |
| 23:11.36 | Tehwildcard | !seen Sixen |
| 23:11.39 | RedWraith | on |
| 23:11.43 | RedWraith | ~seen tehwildcard |
| 23:11.45 | purl | tehwildcard is currently on #sc2mapster (8m 35s). Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 9s, last said: '!seen Sixen'. |
| 23:11.47 | RedWraith | ~seen Sixen |
| 23:11.48 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster #wowuidev. Has said a total of 123 messages. Is idling for 1h 37m 14s, last said: ':P'. |
| 23:12.17 | RedWraith | so, here's my idea for players who aren't active: they draw their own fires to them, but so does everyone else |
| 23:12.20 | RedWraith | and they can also spawn fires |
| 23:12.22 | RedWraith | at will |
| 23:12.37 | Tehwildcard | Why does your minimap |
| 23:12.39 | Tehwildcard | look like that |
| 23:12.40 | RedWraith | though, I'm considering having them draw regular fires to them as well and giving them like a 5 second respawn as ghosts :P |
| 23:12.43 | Tehwildcard | and mine looks...connected |
| 23:12.45 | RedWraith | I know |
| 23:12.47 | RedWraith | what's with that |
| 23:12.47 | RedWraith | :( |
| 23:12.55 | RedWraith | high quality |
| 23:12.56 | Tehwildcard | res? |
| 23:13.02 | RedWraith | 22' |
| 23:13.09 | Tehwildcard | cool |
| 23:13.09 | Tehwildcard | res? |
| 23:13.14 | RedWraith | 1680x1050 |
| 23:13.16 | RedWraith | afaik |
| 23:13.44 | RedWraith | It'd be cool |
| 23:13.49 | RedWraith | if we could get all of them to be connected |
| 23:13.54 | RedWraith | oh btw |
| 23:13.55 | RedWraith | I found |
| 23:13.57 | RedWraith | the lighting editor |
| 23:14.03 | RedWraith | ctrl + shift + f10 |
| 23:14.06 | Tehwildcard | ?? |
| 23:14.12 | RedWraith | It edits lighting |
| 23:14.13 | RedWraith | :P |
| 23:14.17 | Tehwildcard | Window -> Lighting |
| 23:14.19 | RedWraith | yeah... |
| 23:14.21 | Tehwildcard | I knew about that day1 |
| 23:14.28 | RedWraith | and you never used it O_o |
| 23:14.35 | RedWraith | why the hell did you put in the black and white shit? |
| 23:14.39 | Tehwildcard | I was too lazy to make 10 custom lightings |
| 23:15.43 | RedWraith | :p |
| 23:15.51 | RedWraith | Do eeeettt! |
| 23:15.58 | RedWraith | actually |
| 23:16.00 | RedWraith | I need to fix |
| 23:16.01 | RedWraith | the menuds |
| 23:16.03 | RedWraith | menus* |
| 23:16.06 | RedWraith | and the voting system |
| 23:16.14 | RedWraith | menus right now take up a shitload of room |
| 23:16.35 | Tehwildcard | make a custom ui while you're at it |
| 23:16.38 | RedWraith | and the voting system has a minor bug in it somewhere, along with me needing to change some minor things. |
| 23:16.39 | Tehwildcard | I'll be eating grapes |
| 23:16.42 | RedWraith | a custom ui? :p |
| 23:16.49 | Tehwildcard | just the texture |
| 23:16.53 | RedWraith | Why don't you do that, lazy bum? :p |
| 23:16.58 | Tehwildcard | hmm |
| 23:17.03 | Tehwildcard | But the grapes? |
| 23:17.09 | RedWraith | Make it out of grapes! |
| 23:17.17 | Tehwildcard | and unicorns ^^ |
| 23:17.20 | Tehwildcard | hm |
| 23:17.27 | RedWraith | Make it look like the robot unicorn's skin. |
| 23:17.28 | Tehwildcard | can we change the ui texture? |
| 23:17.29 | Tehwildcard | well |
| 23:17.38 | Tehwildcard | we could just add dolphins/unicorns/rainbow images |
| 23:17.39 | Tehwildcard | I guess |
| 23:17.47 | RedWraith | I wish we could re-texture sentries, though. It makes me sad there's no way to export/reimport models with 3ds max. |
| 23:17.55 | RedWraith | Since the current one doesn't do some minor things. |
| 23:18.03 | Dustin | I thought there was |
| 23:18.11 | RedWraith | We need spots for lock camera, change camera pitch and voting menu. |
| 23:18.12 | Tehwildcard | Yeah I thought someone was importing war3 models? |
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| 23:18.24 | RedWraith | I also fixed camera pitch earlier so it automatically goes to the one you want btw. |
| 23:18.25 | rrowland | I think triceron pretty much has it down |
| 23:18.30 | RedWraith | the one you're not currently doing. |
| 23:18.36 | RedWraith | No, no. |
| 23:18.38 | RedWraith | You can't do |
| 23:18.39 | RedWraith | certain things |
| 23:18.40 | Dustin | Someone Develop sc2 editor for my Android |
| 23:18.52 | Tehwildcard | Will do Dustin |
| 23:19.01 | rrowland | Yeah I'll get right on that |
| 23:19.08 | Dustin | So I can map while on the go! |
| 23:19.15 | Alpha_vst | lol |
| 23:19.28 | Alpha_vst | that wouldnt be very easy like |
| 23:19.31 | onetwo | back |
| 23:19.35 | onetwo | haha human centipede |
| 23:19.36 | Tehwildcard | I'm going to put an editor inside sc2 so you can map while you map |
| 23:19.40 | onetwo | this comment is hilarious "i call dibs on front if that ever happens to me. " |
| 23:19.42 | onetwo | i love youtube |
| 23:19.54 | onetwo | LOL and the spoon killer movie |
| 23:19.58 | onetwo | hes a spoonatic |
| 23:20.24 | rrowland | spoon thing was kinda funny |
| 23:21.41 | ekcolnovkol | lol |
| 23:21.49 | ekcolnovkol | some murders take years |
| 23:22.12 | rrowland | the plot line changed though |
| 23:22.21 | rrowland | first it's a murder then its a haunting |
| 23:22.24 | rrowland | then he doesnt even die |
| 23:22.25 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:22.38 | onetwo | spooning |
| 23:22.43 | onetwo | except it means slowly killing now |
| 23:23.37 | onetwo | rrowland can you fax me the quarterly financials |
| 23:23.42 | ekcolnovkol | well |
| 23:23.43 | onetwo | Sixen wants them later today |
| 23:23.44 | ekcolnovkol | he's not dead yet |
| 23:23.49 | ekcolnovkol | he'll die eventually... ? |
| 23:23.51 | rrowland | what |
| 23:24.27 | onetwo | look, the shareholders are hounding my boss... the accounting department can't be late again |
| 23:24.43 | rrowland | are you high? |
| 23:24.51 | onetwo | come on play along |
| 23:24.54 | onetwo | :( |
| 23:25.09 | onetwo | sixen was supposed to come back and be confused |
| 23:25.13 | onetwo | but instead you got confused :( |
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| 23:32.21 | Lilianna | onetwo, Is your TPS report done? |
| 23:32.44 | onetwo | F, you guys have been nipping at me all day |
| 23:32.54 | onetwo | i can't get it done with out rowland's quarterly |
| 23:33.06 | onetwo | i can't get any work done with him! |
| 23:33.20 | onetwo | heads to HR |
| 23:33.32 | Lilianna | sips coffee and leans against cubical wall. |
| 23:34.26 | onetwo | watches as the cubical wall snaps and falls back |
| 23:34.29 | slightlyrandom | resumes playing solitaire |
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| 23:38.00 | Sixen | wut |
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| 23:46.27 | RedWraith | guys, what do you think about a 'collection mode' for sentry scramble |
| 23:46.36 | RedWraith | where players collect dots |
| 23:46.40 | RedWraith | that are in every open space |
| 23:46.53 | RedWraith | and then whoever gets the most/whichever team gets the most wins the round |
| 23:47.03 | RedWraith | either at the end of a timer or when all dots are collected |
| 23:47.05 | Sixen | interesting |
| 23:47.33 | RedWraith | I'm also considering the possibility of only counting the dots of players who are alive at the end of the timer, but I think it's cruel enough to keep them from collecting dots after they die. |
| 23:48.07 | onetwo | i havent played it yet |
| 23:48.10 | onetwo | release it on bnet for phase 2 |
| 23:48.12 | RedWraith | I'm also going to add 'ghost sentries' for players who die which spawn fires and attract fires to them. |
| 23:48.14 | onetwo | itll be page 1 material! |
| 23:48.16 | RedWraith | I will. :p |
| 23:48.21 | RedWraith | Yeah, no it probably wont. |
| 23:48.25 | RedWraith | not with |
| 23:48.28 | RedWraith | the popularity system |
| 23:48.29 | RedWraith | >:[ |
| 23:48.37 | onetwo | Today, a Russian agent will kill the president. |
| 23:48.41 | onetwo | the name of this agent is Sixen |
| 23:48.53 | Sixen | I wanna see that movie |
| 23:48.56 | onetwo | me too |
| 23:48.56 | onetwo | haha |
| 23:49.10 | onetwo | the one with jolie that is |
| 23:49.20 | Sixen | Yup |
| 23:49.21 | onetwo | id go see sixen one but it might not sell as many setas |
| 23:49.22 | Sixen | :P |
| 23:49.23 | onetwo | seats* |
| 23:49.28 | Sixen | pfft |
| 23:49.33 | Sixen | my boobs are bigger than angelina's. |
| 23:49.38 | onetwo | fine |
| 23:49.59 | Triceron | manboobs? |
| 23:50.12 | Sixen | For all intents and purposes Triceron, i'm a beautiful woman. |
| 23:50.36 | Triceron | faps to that knowledge |
| 23:50.41 | RedWraith | >implying Sixen is a human being and not a machine |
| 23:50.45 | Sixen | :P |
| 23:50.55 | RedWraith | I'm on to you! |
| 23:51.06 | Sixen | ERROR 3437473: UNABLE TO PROCESS STRING (human being). |
| 23:51.24 | Sixen | DANGER. DANGER WILL ROBINSON. |
| 23:51.32 | onetwo | robin williams |
| 23:51.43 | Sixen | lawl |
| 23:52.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster Shibz (~AndChat@173-148-113-229.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 23:53.48 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ashamed (43adf1dc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.173.241.220) |
| 23:53.51 | Ashamed | hey |
| 23:53.58 | Ashamed | no |
| 23:53.59 | Ashamed | DONT |
| 23:54.01 | Ashamed | GO AWAY |
| 23:54.07 | Ashamed | no |
| 23:54.10 | Ashamed | please |
| 23:54.11 | Ashamed | I need you |
| 23:54.16 | RedWraith | What? |
| 23:54.21 | Ashamed | ;0 |
| 23:54.25 | RedWraith | when it's cold |
| 23:54.26 | Ashamed | Hows it going? |
| 23:54.27 | RedWraith | outside |
| 23:54.35 | Ashamed | ?? |
| 23:54.41 | RedWraith | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSMeUPFjQHc |
| 23:54.42 | heysparky | Stand by me? |
| 23:54.46 | Ashamed | my penis does that too |
| 23:54.48 | Ashamed | don't worry |
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| 23:55.24 | Ashamed | I can't watch youtube on this pc |
| 23:55.29 | RedWraith | owned |
| 23:55.42 | Ashamed | its my wifes |
| 23:55.43 | Ashamed | from work |
| 23:55.49 | onetwo | soon to be EXWIFE |
| 23:55.50 | Ashamed | She has youtube redirct on it |
| 23:55.51 | onetwo | ZINGGGGGGGG |
| 23:55.54 | Ashamed | .... |
| 23:55.58 | Ashamed | I am having a baby with her |
| 23:55.59 | onetwo | thanks guys |
| 23:56.08 | Red|Away | onetwo |
| 23:56.09 | onetwo | yeah but ive seen marraiges break |
| 23:56.10 | Red|Away | threefour |
| 23:56.12 | onetwo | over youtube viewership |
| 23:56.16 | Red|Away | same here man |
| 23:56.18 | Ashamed | ,,,,, |
| 23:56.20 | Red|Away | one day you can't watch youtube |
| 23:56.21 | Ashamed | ..... |
| 23:56.27 | Red|Away | then you can't watch redtube |
| 23:56.32 | Red|Away | then you can't watch internet videos |
| 23:56.37 | Ashamed | yah you can |
| 23:56.38 | Red|Away | then she chops off your penis |
| 23:56.42 | onetwo | morally |
| 23:56.53 | Ashamed | just youtube and myspace and facebook |
| 23:56.59 | Red|Away | O_o |
| 23:57.06 | Red|Away | Your wife works for people who are paranoooid |
| 23:57.25 | onetwo | lol good thing all the sites i go to are battle.net sc2mapster teamliquid, here |
| 23:57.39 | onetwo | they couldnt anticipate that |
| 23:57.40 | Ashamed | they just go on that shit alll the time |
| 23:57.40 | onetwo | or could they |
| 23:58.02 | slightlyrandom | I hate this world |
| 23:58.14 | Red|Away | slightlyrandom, we hate you too. |
| 23:58.22 | slightlyrandom | Was nothing personal |
| 23:58.33 | onetwo | im becoming more and more opinionated and cynical |
| 23:58.38 | onetwo | time for a change |
| 23:58.47 | onetwo | steps outside naked |
| 23:58.52 | slightlyrandom | It just seems full of people trying to make decisions for some or everyone else, and these decisions are at best retarded |
| 23:58.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ashamed_ (43adf1dc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.173.241.220) |
| 23:58.57 | Ashamed_ | ahhhh |
| 23:59.02 | Ashamed_ | My nets cut out or something |
| 23:59.57 | Red|Away | slightlyrandom, go work on my map for me. |
| 23:59.58 | Red|Away | ;) |
